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| 00:05.00 | chalcedony | has anyone mumbled about firefox (real) eating tons of cpu on debian squeeze? |
| 00:05.29 | sney | the only time I saw that it was just the leap second bug |
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| 00:20.30 | Bert_2 | Hi, I came across this line as an fstab entry for SSD optimalisation: none /var/cache unionfs dirs=/tmp:/var/cache=ro 0 0 could someone tell me what it does exactly ? |
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| 00:28.00 | nezZario | so |
| 00:28.09 | nezZario | i'm going to try to write a fuse library to do data deduplication |
| 00:28.17 | nezZario | key word: try |
| 00:28.27 | nezZario | i found a similar project 'lessfs' but it seems broken and fairly abandoned |
| 00:31.04 | nezZario | just doesn't seem like a serious project |
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| 00:36.05 | nezZario | well, maybe not |
| 00:36.06 | nezZario | herm |
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| 00:37.24 | Wyzard | Bert_2: That looks like it causes all future writes to /var/cache to be stored in tmpfs (i.e. in RAM or swap) rather than being written to the SSD as normal files |
| 00:37.45 | Wyzard | Bert_2: presumably to avoid unnecessary writes |
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| 00:39.22 | nezZario | so like a long term journal, kinda |
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| 00:40.45 | nezZario | the code for lessfs isn't bad |
| 00:40.52 | Wyzard | except it's not necessarily ever flushed back to disk |
| 00:41.01 | Bert_2 | Wyzard: but why does it use unionfs and not another tmpfs entry ? |
| 00:41.17 | Wyzard | probably in case there are already files stored in /var/cache at the time when the command runs |
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| 00:41.30 | Wyzard | Mounting a new tmpfs there would make those files invisible and inaccessible |
| 00:41.47 | nezZario | Bert_2 i'm no expert but my guess is because ssd's can have relatively short write lifespans |
| 00:41.53 | Bert_2 | Wyzard: I see, cool, I'll uncomment it then, thanks a lot ;) |
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| 00:42.20 | Bert_2 | nezZario: the mystery was more about why it uses unionfs and not tmpfs, but Wyzard solved that |
| 00:42.43 | nezZario | anywho, anyone ever used this lessfs thing? |
| 00:42.52 | nezZario | I just don't trust a project that has a wordpress install as their main website :( |
| 00:43.02 | Wyzard | Bert_2: Well, it does use tmpfs indirectly (assuming your /tmp is a tmpfs) |
| 00:43.14 | nezZario | seems to be basically zero documentation, just a bunch of weird articles that have nothing to do with what i'm doing |
| 00:43.34 | nezZario | s3ql works pretty well but it's just slow for obvious reasons |
| 00:43.44 | Bert_2 | Wyzard: yeah, if I get this right it keeps the current files read only, and all others will go in the tmpfs of /tmp |
| 00:43.59 | nezZario | i mean horrifically slow.. even on a high througput quad core 7gb ram server with 5 out of 7 used for cache |
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| 00:46.28 | nezZario | so uh, is there a preferred way to install something in debian |
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| 00:46.34 | nezZario | when there is no pkg available? |
| 00:46.53 | Bert_2 | nezZario: you follow the instructions the source comes with ? |
| 00:47.07 | pparadis | Zekah: depends on what you're installing. what are you installing? |
| 00:47.32 | nezZario | it says ./configure; make; make install |
| 00:47.38 | nezZario | the old fashioned way ;) |
| 00:47.45 | pparadis | nod, that's the standard procedure, but what are you installing? |
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| 00:48.13 | nezZario | http://www.lessfs.com |
| 00:48.17 | nezZario | it looks pretty crappy tbh |
| 00:48.34 | nezZario | there is a sf project for it and the code looks a lot better than their no documentation website, though |
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| 00:48.54 | nezZario | i guess their better c developers than web dev's |
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| 00:49.02 | nezZario | they are* |
| 00:49.02 | pparadis | nezZario: that stuff is really experimental. you might prefer btrfs instead. |
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| 00:49.13 | nezZario | btrfs doesn't do dataduping! |
| 00:49.25 | nezZario | i benefit *highly* from block level deduping |
| 00:49.45 | pparadis | well, it doesn't do it yet, but it is planned :). let's think about this for a second. |
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| 00:50.16 | pparadis | instead of using something that's highly experimental (and last i heard pooly maintained and half dead), let's think about other options. |
| 00:50.18 | jagginess | but it's planned! |
| 00:50.30 | pparadis | s/pooly/poorly/ |
| 00:51.10 | pparadis | nezZario: you might be interested in playing with this --> http://zfsonlinux.org/zfs-building-deb.html |
| 00:51.16 | nezZario | trust me.... i've been through it all. I am not particularly bound to one operating system (debian is just my linux choice) ..... i've been through all the options (in order I researched, i believe): linux (fuse-zfs) which seems more expirmental than... netbsd's zfs - freebsd's zfs works great but I also need xen domu support which fbsd does not have.. |
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| 00:51.32 | Ragnar | dpkg-maintscript-helper: warning: environment variable DPKG_MAINTSCRIPT_NAME missing |
| 00:51.35 | nezZario | i would trust that lessfs more than the linux's zfs fuse implementation no offense |
| 00:51.43 | Ragnar | dpkg-maintscript-helper: warning: environment variable DPKG_MAINTSCRIPT_PACKAGE missing |
| 00:51.44 | pparadis | heh, i sure wouldn't. |
| 00:51.46 | Ragnar | what does this mean? |
| 00:51.54 | Ragnar | I am trying to dpkg-reconfigure ntp |
| 00:52.10 | pparadis | Ragnar: what version of debian are you using? |
| 00:52.13 | jagginess | Ragnar, maybe its ntpd |
| 00:52.54 | nezZario | i then looked at openindiana which once again has weird xen support.. I then tried s3ql (http://code.google.com/p/s3ql/) which is actually pretty cool (other than it's python lib, which I would prefer a not-interpreted binary) -- but anyway, that works OK but for the sheer massive amount of data i'm dealing with here, it's just too slow |
| 00:53.01 | Ragnar | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 00:53.02 | Ragnar | 6.0.5 |
| 00:53.24 | pparadis | nezZario: it's really too bad about your xen requirement. openindiana people have done some really awesome stuff with regards to KVM integration. |
| 00:53.34 | nezZario | i started a rsync from local disk to the s3ql filesystem at midnight last night and 3 hours ago it had not even gotten maybe 60% complete |
| 00:53.46 | nezZario | yeah yeah, i don't want to hear it with kvm ;P |
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| 00:54.01 | nezZario | so yeah i've been through all the options |
| 00:54.08 | pparadis | nezZario: just saying there are good virtualization options available that will also give you a platform with excellent ZFS support ;) |
| 00:54.20 | nezZario | i can't have all my machines run "X" |
| 00:54.29 | nezZario | and hardware to run host machines are expensive |
| 00:54.29 | pparadis | what do you mean? |
| 00:54.46 | sney | !warning |
| 00:54.47 | dpkg | Yerp, lots of software outputs warnings. Kernel module warnings on boot, mplayer warnings, GTK warnings, X11 warnings, build warnings, gpg warnings. Don't be scared - informative output is a GOOD THING. Consider yourself warned, and if the program works as expected, be happy. |
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| 00:54.58 | sney | Ragnar: ^ |
| 00:55.22 | nezZario | i use both ec2 (xen) + a netbsd dom0 (very large, monolithic type machine that has about a dozen medium sized servers running every OS imaginable) |
| 00:55.26 | pparadis | nezZario: if your big point here is block level dedupe, have you considered just running bsd/openindiana/whatever inside a VM and exporting that? |
| 00:55.47 | nezZario | so it's fairly unreasonable to say "let's switch to kvm" |
| 00:56.28 | pparadis | nezZario: nobody is saying switch all your stuff to KVM. why not use the tools that provide what you need in the places where they're needed? |
| 00:56.49 | pparadis | or run bsd in a VM and mount its exports where you need them :) |
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| 00:57.57 | pparadis | i mean you say you can't have all your stuff running "X" but by stipulating xen as a requirement, you're saying exactly that. |
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| 00:58.09 | nezZario | not sure your angle.. it seems "data dedupe/compression" + "xen" just seem mutually exclusive |
| 00:58.25 | nezZario | it really bothers me linux doens't have any other decent filesystems that have a "stable" flag on them |
| 00:58.36 | nezZario | linux has been my xen champ for quite some time |
| 00:58.39 | nezZario | :) |
| 00:58.54 | stew | any other besides what? |
| 00:59.00 | jagginess | Ragnar, are you trying to setup a time server? |
| 00:59.02 | nezZario | extN |
| 00:59.17 | pparadis | right, i'm saying by stipulating you _must_ use xen instead of another virt method in some places, you're artificially boxing yourself in. i'm not saying convert your entire infrastructure to KVM, i'm saying use it where it's appropriate. |
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| 00:59.18 | nezZario | sorry i meant modern / deduping / compressing filesystems specifically |
| 00:59.19 | kevlarman | stew: probably something CoW |
| 00:59.28 | stew | what about xfs? jfs? |
| 00:59.31 | kevlarman | nezZario: type slower |
| 00:59.44 | kevlarman | stew: those aren't copy on write |
| 00:59.47 | stew | huh what? |
| 00:59.52 | pparadis | he wants block level dedupe. |
| 00:59.54 | stew | is extN? |
| 00:59.59 | kevlarman | stew: no |
| 01:00.20 | kevlarman | stew: zfs is, btrfs is, but neither is production ready on linux |
| 01:00.28 | pparadis | nod |
| 01:00.31 | nezZario | my point exactly :( |
| 01:00.37 | stew | I don't understand how extN fits into this |
| 01:00.40 | kevlarman | (zfs is production ready on freebsd) |
| 01:00.57 | nezZario | but freebsd has horrific xen support ... |
| 01:01.02 | pparadis | nezZario: is the possibility of running something in a VM and exporting it completely off the table for you? you haven't addressed that one yet. |
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| 01:01.33 | gotmynick | you can do dd (and seek) + sha256sum to dedup by hand </joke> |
| 01:01.46 | nezZario | pparadis: run what? i'm not sure what you're getting at. there are no options unless i (1) use some crazy development stuff (2) buy more hardware |
| 01:02.15 | nezZario | i guess i could put freebsd on hardware but that's fairly out of scope for #debian :) |
| 01:02.43 | pparadis | nezZario: you haven't described what you're actually trying to dedupe yet, or how it connects to other things, etc. i was suggesting running a bsd VM and mounting it where you need it. |
| 01:02.49 | nezZario | ahh anyway, i'm going to play around with s3ql some more. it's pretty freaking nifty if anyone wants to give it a try |
| 01:03.07 | nezZario | about 2.6TB of backups that is growing by 20-50GB/day |
| 01:03.22 | nezZario | i already use poor man's deduping to the maximum with hardlinks |
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| 01:03.41 | stew | you can use backup software that does de-duping |
| 01:03.48 | gotmynick | file backups? block level backups? vm image backups? |
| 01:03.56 | pparadis | you're probably heading down the road where it will genuinely make sense to dedicate some hardware to what you're doing and run an appropriate OS on that hardware. |
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| 01:10.25 | nezZario | well |
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| 01:10.37 | nezZario | hmm.. this may sound like an insane request |
| 01:10.50 | ManoftheSea | no, I will not do your taxes. |
| 01:10.58 | nezZario | is there anything that duplicates ssh client/server but without actual encryption? |
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| 01:11.21 | civillian | nezZario: telnet |
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| 01:11.31 | joulez | hi, my pnning isn't working... |
| 01:11.37 | nezZario | hmmmm i guess I'm going to need to dig in this s3ql code |
| 01:11.41 | ManoftheSea | you want null encryption, you mean? |
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| 01:12.06 | ManoftheSea | I thought ssh could be set up to use "none" |
| 01:12.11 | nezZario | well this s3ql thing says i can use ssh for communication vs s3 or some other proprietary service |
| 01:12.26 | nezZario | ManoftheSea: i'll check out the manpage for a long read.. thanks |
| 01:12.32 | joulez | hi, my pnning isn't working... -> http://paste.debian.net/178553/ I'm on debian lenny atm (using archives). |
| 01:12.35 | joulez | pinning |
| 01:12.43 | ManoftheSea | nezZario: that doesn't sound right... |
| 01:13.09 | joulez | hmm let me try something. |
| 01:14.01 | joulez | apt is ignoring my pinning any tips? -> http://paste.debian.net/178553/ |
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| 01:16.08 | ManoftheSea | nezZario: http://old.nabble.com/ssh-without-encryption-%28authentification-only%29--td12927740.html |
| 01:16.23 | ManoftheSea | looks like I was right, but it's not your solution. |
| 01:18.03 | abrotman | joulez: why are you still using lenny? |
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| 01:19.47 | joulez | abrotman: we are stuck on it atm (i trying trust me). |
| 01:20.01 | joulez | anyhow the pinning is being ignored :/ |
| 01:20.57 | joulez | and we need to go 64bit -> 32bit *sigh* |
| 01:21.02 | abrotman | uh what? |
| 01:21.14 | joulez | because of one app, believe it or not. |
| 01:21.51 | dvs | joulez: Why is your company going backwards in time? |
| 01:22.01 | joulez | :( |
| 01:22.32 | gotmynick | which app is it ? |
| 01:22.55 | gotmynick | maybe you can run a 32bit chroot for it on your 64bit system |
| 01:24.24 | joulez | acroread |
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| 01:24.51 | civillian | omg |
| 01:24.57 | civillian | use pdf2ps or ps2pdf |
| 01:25.04 | abrotman | or pdfedit |
| 01:25.06 | joulez | form filling |
| 01:25.07 | civillian | if that's what you're using acroread for |
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| 01:25.21 | abrotman | joulez: pdfedit |
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| 01:25.43 | abrotman | judd: versions pdfedit |
| 01:25.45 | judd | Package: pdfedit on i386 -- lenny: 0.4.1-2; squeeze: 0.4.5-1 |
| 01:25.50 | abrotman | you're in luck |
| 01:25.57 | joulez | how does it fill in forms? |
| 01:26.08 | joulez | checks but is pessimistic |
| 01:26.27 | abrotman | how does adobe fill in forms? FIIK .. it just does it ? |
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| 01:31.58 | joulez | abrotman: must of missed it (pdfedit) |
| 01:32.07 | nezZario | *#(*$#(@ |
| 01:32.12 | nezZario | ok, s3ql is evil |
| 01:32.14 | dvs | Qbert! |
| 01:32.28 | nezZario | it generated $18 in charges for like 60% of my data in PUT requests |
| 01:33.05 | abrotman | joulez: work for you ? |
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| 01:33.26 | tidux | how the hell do I get 64-bit and 32-bit WINE on the same install? |
| 01:33.55 | tidux | the window that pops up about installing the 32-bit components says to add i386 as an architecture, which I did |
| 01:34.00 | tidux | apt-get update, which I did |
| 01:34.12 | tidux | and apt-get install libwine-bin:i386 |
| 01:34.15 | tidux | that's where the problem is |
| 01:34.28 | tidux | installing libwine-bin:i386 REMOVES the 64-bit components |
| 01:34.29 | tidux | wtf? |
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| 01:35.49 | joulez | abrotman: sadly no. |
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| 01:36.32 | joulez | abrotman: these are form fillables using adobes pdf tool kit, i.e checkboxes, radios, text fields, scripts. |
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| 01:37.41 | karlpinc | joulez: Sounds like the kind of thing that libreoffice might do, although probably does not. |
| 01:37.54 | joulez | no it doesn't |
| 01:38.09 | tidux | so, anyone know how to get multilib WINE working in Wheezy? |
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| 01:38.43 | tidux | I'm trying to run a self-extracting archive to play around with Wordstar 7 in DOSBox |
| 01:38.45 | joulez | oh well. |
| 01:39.14 | joulez | apt is ignoring my pinning any tips? -> http://paste.debian.net/178553/ i put it in both /etc/apt/preferences and /etc/apt/preferences.d/all, no luck any tips? |
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| 01:40.09 | abrotman | tidux: ugh .. why? |
| 01:40.26 | karlpinc | joulez: No idea, other than the usual approach of turning up the verbosity/scanning logs. Sorry if that's not much help. |
| 01:40.33 | tidux | abrotman: call it masochism |
| 01:40.35 | abrotman | joulez: what is in your sources.list ? |
| 01:40.43 | tidux | but I thought multiarch was supposed to make this crap easier |
| 01:40.46 | tidux | not impossible |
| 01:41.12 | karlpinc | tidux: I thought you could run a dos emulator directly in linux. (Although now I can't recall why I think that.) |
| 01:41.29 | tidux | there is a dosbox package for Debian |
| 01:41.41 | tidux | but some jerk wrapped the install disk images in a win32 exe |
| 01:41.47 | tidux | so I have to use wine to extract it |
| 01:41.57 | karlpinc | tidux: Try unzip first. |
| 01:42.03 | tidux | tried that |
| 01:42.04 | tidux | didn't work |
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| 01:42.16 | joulez | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/178559/ |
| 01:42.27 | karlpinc | tidux: Easier to compile from source. |
| 01:42.37 | tidux | well that's really helpful |
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| 01:43.05 | karlpinc | tidux: Sorry, never ran wine. I figure you install it with aptitude, it works. |
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| 01:43.16 | joulez | lol wine |
| 01:43.20 | joulez | sorry. |
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| 01:43.58 | abrotman | would have used a VM+freedos already |
| 01:45.06 | abrotman | joulez: and your apt-get update looks normal ? |
| 01:45.54 | joulez | abrotman: yep |
| 01:46.04 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps |
| 01:46.30 | abrotman | looks for feathers |
| 01:46.36 | abrotman | joulez: what do you think that -10 does ? |
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| 01:48.25 | joulez | hmm i think i did that so it would ignore itcompletely... |
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| 01:49.59 | joulez | ill put it at 100 |
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| 01:50.49 | abrotman | working better? |
| 01:50.53 | joulez | no |
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| 01:51.03 | abrotman | you did your apt-get updat e? |
| 01:51.15 | joulez | 'apt-get install xorg' pulls in from squeeze |
| 01:51.24 | abrotman | judd: versions xorg |
| 01:51.25 | judd | Package: xorg on i386 -- lenny: 1:7.3+20; squeeze: 1:7.5+8+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 1:7.5+8+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 1:7.6+8~bpo60+1; sid: 1:7.7+1; wheezy: 1:7.7+1 |
| 01:51.28 | abrotman | ugh |
| 01:51.56 | joulez | http://paste.debian.net/178560/ |
| 01:51.58 | abrotman | why do i have this weird feeling that old versoins had to use stable/oldstable ? |
| 01:52.48 | abrotman | dpkg: tell joulez about pinning |
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| 01:54.18 | joulez | oh |
| 01:54.33 | joulez | i don't think n= is supported here. |
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| 01:57.24 | nezZario | is the old mhash (not mhash2) not available in apt / |
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| 01:59.00 | jpinx | I connect my N900 phone to my eeepc running debian stable. In my n900, $:mount tells me... /dev/mmcblk1p1 on /media/mmc1 type vfat (rw,noauto,nodev,noexec,nosuid,noatime,nodiratime,utf8,uid=29999,shortname=mixed,dmask=000,fmask=0133,rodir) |
| 01:59.04 | jpinx | in my laptop after sshfs the n900 SD card, $:mount tells me... root@192.168.2.15:/media/mmc1/ on /home/jpinx/n900-card type fuse.sshfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,max_read=65536,user=jpinx) |
| 01:59.07 | jpinx | but I get this error when I try to cp into the mounted device --- jpinx@localhost:~$ cp XP/backedup2n900card/private/gprs-settings.txt n900-card/private/ ------ cp: cannot create regular file `n900-card/private/gprs-settings.txt': Operation not permitted --- Any pointers anyone please? |
| 01:59.42 | abrotman | permissions on mount point ? |
| 01:59.45 | abrotman | and on device |
| 02:00.02 | jpinx | mount point owned by me |
| 02:01.19 | jpinx | mounted dev owned by root on the device but mounted by me |
| 02:01.45 | nezZario | holy crap, .. since when is there exFAT support in linux? |
| 02:02.43 | nezZario | i searched up and down months ago .. never could find a solution .. ended copying stuff over SFTP from windows to a ext2 partition which I foudn some crappy app to read ext2 from windows on |
| 02:03.20 | jpinx | abrotman: drwxrwxrwx 36 user root 8192 Jan 1 1970 mmc1 |
| 02:04.05 | abrotman | nice date |
| 02:04.14 | jpinx | heh |
| 02:04.30 | dvs | that's a mighty old SD card |
| 02:04.30 | joulez | is there an online repository of man pages for latest debian? |
| 02:04.48 | joulez | where did I get n=<release> from? |
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| 02:04.59 | jpinx | almost all files on the device are rw for all |
| 02:05.51 | jpinx | dvs: works well .. but I want to rsync a backup regularly - hence this question |
| 02:06.56 | joulez | huh yeh ok |
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| 02:08.09 | jpinx | abrotman: doing the copy as root produces a "permission denied" error :( |
| 02:08.28 | abrotman | does the device have a write-protect tab/switch ? |
| 02:08.53 | jpinx | nope - it's a micro SD card |
| 02:08.56 | joulez | abrotman: thanks that works (a=oldstable) n= isn't supported in lenny, I was probably reading my man page on my wheezy desktop. :/ |
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| 02:09.15 | abrotman | good job! |
| 02:09.55 | joulez | wheezy is awesome |
| 02:10.19 | dvs | now get me some coffee! |
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| 02:10.49 | joulez | what about low alcohol beer? |
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| 02:13.03 | joulez | its super ultra light |
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| 02:14.00 | abrotman | ick |
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| 02:17.01 | nezZario | why not whisky |
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| 02:18.38 | joulez | its so light its not beer, but brewed soft drink. no? |
| 02:18.44 | break19 | nezZario: that's my favorite question.. mainly because it's also the answer! :) |
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| 02:27.12 | nezZario | hates beer |
| 02:27.16 | ageis | what's the simplest command to initiate a logrotate. |
| 02:27.43 | abrotman | ageis: rm ? |
| 02:27.49 | ageis | lol |
| 02:27.50 | abrotman | do you actually want to save the old log ? |
| 02:27.55 | ageis | yes |
| 02:28.11 | ageis | i want it to do its thing it would do in a month or week ro whatever |
| 02:28.12 | ageis | just force it |
| 02:28.46 | abrotman | why? |
| 02:28.51 | ageis | particularly i want to rotate and compress mail.log but postfix is not in /etc/logrotate.d |
| 02:28.58 | ageis | because my logs are too long |
| 02:29.00 | ageis | i could just mv it |
| 02:29.58 | abrotman | you could |
| 02:30.14 | ageis | logrotate -fv /etc/logrotate.d/* |
| 02:30.20 | ageis | looks godo to me |
| 02:30.30 | ageis | great that worked |
| 02:30.42 | abrotman | okay |
| 02:31.54 | nezZario | if I get performance gains from striped (raid0) arrays, will lvm striping be roughly equiv ? |
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| 02:34.20 | dvs | You may gain performance from raid0 but it's so much more open to failure. |
| 02:35.53 | |rt| | nezZario: same risk either way |
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| 02:41.21 | nezZario | it's just backups.. |
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| 02:51.47 | nezZario | why the f are archive files kept after installation with apt-get ? |
| 02:52.03 | abrotman | because you haven't configured it not to keep them |
| 02:53.55 | Devastator | apt-get clean also helps |
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| 03:00.28 | adrakoa | hi |
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| 03:37.25 | Roge152 | Wonder if Debian is going to move to gnome 3 some time ? |
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| 03:37.53 | gnarface | Roge152: it didn't? |
| 03:38.03 | Roge152 | Maybe it did, im new |
| 03:38.13 | Roge152 | Was just looking at release notes for squeeze |
| 03:38.19 | Roge152 | I say gnome 2.* |
| 03:38.23 | Roge152 | saw* |
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| 03:38.47 | gnarface | ,versions gnome2 |
| 03:38.48 | judd | No package named 'gnome2' was found in i386. |
| 03:38.51 | gnarface | ,versions gnome |
| 03:38.52 | judd | Package: gnome on i386 -- lenny: 1:2.22.2~5; squeeze: 1:2.30+7; wheezy: 1:3.0+9; sid: 1:3.4+1 |
| 03:39.19 | Roge152 | Looks like I got owned |
| 03:39.26 | gnarface | Roge152: so there you have it; debian is moving to gnome 3 in wheezy |
| 03:39.32 | Roge152 | cool |
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| 03:42.22 | nezZario | k, when I create a pv.. as long as I pass the appropriate --stripes amount, should performance be what one would expect? |
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| 03:43.56 | peterrooney | is exceptionally thankful there are other DEs to choose from |
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| 03:44.17 | Roge152 | Yeah G3 is certainly not for everyone |
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| 03:54.58 | Buttons840 | when a full screen application freezes, and I can't alt-tab, is there a last resort to regain control before i have to "pull the plug"? |
| 03:55.54 | peterrooney | Buttons840: ctrl-alt-F1 |
| 03:56.40 | baby | ? |
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| 03:57.42 | peterrooney | Buttons840: I added this to my home machine's inittab: xcia:2:respawn:/usr/bin/nice -n 19 /usr/bin/top </dev/tty8 > /dev/tty8 (only because I trust all authorized users) |
| 03:58.12 | gnarface | peterrooney: what does that do? |
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| 03:59.31 | peterrooney | gnarface: it keeps top running politely on vt8, handy for killing the occasional errant program |
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| 04:01.55 | freaky[t]_ | hi all. is there any way i can use ionice/nice with rdiff-backup? because it keeps running a gzip process which doesnt use the ionice settings and locks up a server program for a short time using 100% cpu. |
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| 04:03.12 | Buttons840 | peterrooney: you know, if I was more of a noob you'd see me leaving the channel shortly after you gave that advice :) |
| 04:04.08 | Buttons840 | i'm still rather nooby though |
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| 04:15.26 | nezZario | dude |
| 04:15.32 | nezZario | what is a reasonable RAID chunk size? |
| 04:15.33 | nezZario | seriousy? |
| 04:15.44 | nezZario | some say 512bytes.. some say 256K |
| 04:15.47 | nezZario | that's a wide relative gap |
| 04:17.49 | sney | read about what the chunks mean and make an intelligent decision |
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| 04:19.06 | nezZario | i guess a brute force bonnie++ capade would do |
| 04:19.24 | nezZario | but .. 512B-256K is a reasonable min/max range? |
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| 04:23.01 | jasonmc | with a radeon what do you have to do to turn DRI on ? i followed what i could find and nothing's working |
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| 04:25.27 | sney | jasonmc: did you install firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 04:25.53 | jasonmc | yup |
| 04:25.56 | jasonmc | treid that too |
| 04:25.58 | sney | nezZario: same thing I said before. read what it means, understand what they are for, make an informed decision |
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| 04:26.03 | jasonmc | nothing is getting DRI (or i guess 3d support) to work |
| 04:26.14 | jasonmc | DRI is 3d support right ? |
| 04:26.17 | sney | jasonmc: you sure it was firmware-linux-nonfree and not firmware-linux-free ? a lot of people make that mixup. double check |
| 04:26.29 | sney | dri is direct rendering... so yes, essentially, on hardware that does 3d |
| 04:26.34 | kevlarman | jasonmc: what hardware? |
| 04:26.48 | jasonmc | 4670HD |
| 04:26.57 | jasonmc | not supported by the proprietary drivers anymore too |
| 04:27.14 | jasonmc | so i'm trying to get the free driver to work |
| 04:27.17 | sney | you should also make sure you have libgl1-mesa-glx and libgl1-mesa-dri installed |
| 04:27.50 | jasonmc | hehe there's a package called and |
| 04:27.56 | jasonmc | if you cut$paste |
| 04:28.11 | sney | hm, so there is. |
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| 04:28.38 | jasonmc | so it tries to install 'and' :) |
| 04:28.44 | sney | after installing things/changing settings it generally makes sense to restart X |
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| 04:44.51 | pesciolino | ciao a tt |
| 04:44.55 | pesciolino | !list |
| 04:44.55 | dpkg | pesciolino: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.5-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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| 04:51.28 | r15 | hi |
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| 04:53.03 | r15 | I installed debian 6.0.5, I am facing issue with the network connectivity on ethernet device, unable to connect from an another machine, ssh connection and ping reply is not stable. |
| 04:53.43 | r15 | my ssh connection breaks with a message (software connection error - putty) so as the ping reply becomes timed out. |
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| 04:53.58 | r15 | is it due to auto negotiation of network interface? |
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| 04:54.31 | sney | could be, try setting it with ethtool |
| 04:54.36 | r15 | dmesg is showing link up, link down multiple times |
| 04:55.08 | sney | could also be faulty cable |
| 04:56.14 | r15 | sney:I use the same cable at work place, which never shows any error, I have dual boot, while booted to windows I don't get any connectivity issue (ping response is contiuous). |
| 04:56.59 | r15 | Auto-negotiation: on |
| 04:57.24 | r15 | on my eth0 interface I can see auto-negotiation is on. |
| 04:57.36 | Onixs | r15 have you tried cold boot instead of restarting |
| 04:57.57 | karlpinc | wonders about firmware |
| 04:58.15 | karlpinc | r15: You might possibly benefit from a newer kernel from <bdo>. |
| 04:58.17 | r15 | Onixs: I tried reboot, I tried changing eth0 IP as well. |
| 04:58.22 | karlpinc | !tell r15 about bdo |
| 04:58.38 | sney | that might be premature without knowing what nic it is |
| 04:58.46 | karlpinc | sney: You are right. |
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| 05:00.31 | r15 | karlpinc: yes, it appears that driver issue, i am using HP pavilion dv6 tx40(6gb ram/i7 processor) a complete headache notebook(worst choise of notebook) |
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| 05:01.00 | hacosta | hi! i have built a deb that works on all the debian releases that i need, i'm trying to set up a repo, but i want the same package to be used for all releases. |
| 05:01.18 | hacosta | reprepro complains about a checksum (even thogh it's the same package) |
| 05:01.23 | hacosta | how is this usually handled? |
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| 05:01.49 | karlpinc | !tell r15 about pciid |
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| 05:06.57 | karlpinc | Lordy, the wiki is slow. |
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| 05:12.34 | r15 | karlpinc: lspci -nn gives me 10ec:8168 (pciid), lsomod | grep -i r8169 is showing it's already loaded |
| 05:12.55 | r15 | i have 0b:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [10ec:8168] (rev 07) |
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| 05:13.57 | r15 | my tty also not working, notebook becomes white whenever trying to switchover to any ttv or even logout from gnome desktop. |
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| 05:14.27 | r15 | biggest issue is this network issue, without which I am unable to work. :( |
| 05:14.52 | karlpinc | r15: Ok. I don't know the first thing about it. I find it easier to try a new kernel than to try to figure it out. YMMV. (It wouldn't hurt to use ethtool to manually set the nic speed.....) |
| 05:14.59 | r15 | audio is not working either. |
| 05:15.19 | karlpinc | r15: The installer worked? (You used the netinstall?) |
| 05:15.53 | r15 | however I just need ssh access. karlpinc, yes installation was without any error. |
| 05:16.30 | karlpinc | r15: Then there's quite a bit of hope. |
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| 05:17.16 | karlpinc | r15: I suppose you could look in dmesg output and the logs.... Never hurts to try to listen to what the box is trying to say. |
| 05:17.20 | jagginess | r15, you used a double negative.. so you said you can work without a network |
| 05:17.25 | jagginess | lol |
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| 05:18.25 | r15 | it's the HP dv6-7040tx notebook. :( worst choice I made recently. |
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| 05:19.16 | r15 | jagginess:no, i just need ssh accesss sometimes. |
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| 05:19.45 | chapo | does anybody use sasl connection in order to access to irc from irssi? |
| 05:19.49 | karlpinc | r15: You could always boot the installer in rescue mode to install the bdo kernel. |
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| 05:21.14 | chapo | does anybody use sasl connection in order to access to irc from irssi? |
| 05:21.38 | karlpinc | !tell chapo about anyone |
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| 05:22.12 | r15 | aptitude -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` ? |
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| 05:23.02 | karlpinc | r15: Without parsing, sounds likely. |
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| 05:24.38 | r15 | karlpinc: I am installing. |
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| 05:27.08 | r15 | since the purchase of hp-dv6-7040tx, i had to change two notebook due to hardware issues, now the third notebook of same model is having issue with hardware, whenever tilting 30 degree or more clockwise, it generates mechanical noise of tic tic from the cooling fan area. LOL |
| 05:27.40 | r15 | probably never again going to buy a hp notebook in future. |
| 05:28.10 | r15 | ok rebooting now, with a hope. :D |
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| 05:32.02 | r15 | karlpinc: Thanks, it worked. |
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| 05:32.32 | r15 | now the switching to tty is also working. |
| 05:32.54 | r15 | Thanks a lot. :) |
| 05:34.04 | r15 | Thanks #debian |
| 05:34.47 | karlpinc | r15: You may need to monitor the kernel version available in bdo. I don't think a big bump in kernel numbers automatically upgrades. (It happened once to me, I never investigated.) |
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| 05:39.34 | jeekl | https://gist.github.com/3088192 Hi, I'm having some trouble mirroring dotdeb.org with reprepro, the checksums of Packages.bz2 are wrong. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? |
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| 06:46.02 | NewLinuxer | Hello |
| 06:46.14 | NewLinuxer | Debian/ Fedora? |
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| 06:46.56 | NewLinuxer | For primary operation system for streaming |
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| 06:48.56 | NewLinuxer | What do you think? |
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| 06:49.32 | pfote | what answer do you expect on a debian chan? ;-) |
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| 07:00.24 | kalle_ | hi. after installing default debian squeeze frmo netinstall, i selected kde4 packes too. now i have gdm3 and kdm installed. i typed dpkg-reconfigure kdm and select kdm as default display manager. but when /etc/init.d/kdm start, it says it is not the default. i checked /etc/X11/default-display-manager twice and it says kdm. but only gdm will start. |
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| 07:01.48 | kalle_ | when starting kdm from console, it runs only once mention that something has to be replaced by desktop theme @@@tobereplacedby...@@@. i tried setting theme=false in /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc but it wont start at all after it fails the first time |
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| 07:02.19 | kalle_ | so, where is the trick? i thought installing kde packages is engouh :) what do i have to configure manually to run kdm as login manager? |
| 07:02.40 | kalle_ | it searched google, and this seems to be a bug or so, not fixed since > 1 year? |
| 07:03.02 | kalle_ | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=570478 |
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| 07:08.29 | trifolio6 | ok, ya lo he logrado :) ááááá |
| 07:08.52 | trifolio6 | oh, sorry |
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| 07:18.54 | stickyboot | is there a tool for managing public keys? |
| 07:19.11 | stickyboot | or is it normal to just manually edit in new public keys |
| 07:19.37 | hacosta | why would you edit a public key? |
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| 07:19.43 | sevar | hi there |
| 07:20.02 | sevar | i have a question : how to set java classpath? |
| 07:20.33 | stickyboot | i dont edit the public key, I add it to authorized_keys2 |
| 07:20.38 | sevar | trying to set $JAVAHOME and $PATH but my jcManager still didnt see my library |
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| 07:21.17 | stickyboot | i was wondering if there was a better way to do that, instead of just manually appending new public keys |
| 07:22.51 | hacosta | stickyboot: from the client, run ssh-copy-id |
| 07:23.04 | hacosta | ssh-copy-id yourserver |
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| 07:23.51 | stickyboot | ok, ill try that out |
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| 07:25.04 | fasta | If I allow any executable to be used via sudo which is owned by even a trusted user, but then this user account it hacked, then this nullifies the use of sudo, right? |
| 07:25.20 | fasta | is hacked* |
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| 07:27.42 | fasta | The problem being in this case the creation of directories under /usr/local. |
| 07:27.59 | hacosta | fasta: what do you want to do? |
| 07:28.52 | fasta | hacosta: I would like to make it possible for a user to install a piece of software under /usr/local/ without requiring this person to type in a password. |
| 07:29.06 | fasta | hacosta: at the same time, I don't want to give full root to this person. |
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| 07:29.27 | hacosta | fasta: how is this person going to be installing software? |
| 07:29.34 | fasta | hacosta: make install |
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| 07:29.50 | hacosta | fasta: you can just setup unix permissions for that |
| 07:30.24 | hacosta | btw, you should really use a package manager. |
| 07:30.38 | fasta | hacosta: how? I don't know in advance which directories the users wants to touch. |
| 07:30.55 | fasta | hacosta: well, I think there is this recursive bit somewhere. |
| 07:31.00 | hacosta | you said /usr/local, right? |
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| 07:31.09 | fasta | hacosta: yes. |
| 07:31.21 | fasta | hacosta: but also /usr/local/a/b. |
| 07:31.35 | stickyboot | hacosta: ssh-copy-id looks like what I was looking for |
| 07:31.38 | stickyboot | thanks! |
| 07:31.42 | hacosta | stickyboot: np |
| 07:31.51 | fasta | hacosta: and I would use a package manager if that provided what I wanted. |
| 07:32.02 | stickyboot | definately a little more streamlined that adding public keys manually |
| 07:32.27 | stickyboot | what about managing the public keys that are in authorized_keys? |
| 07:32.32 | stickyboot | is there something for that? |
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| 07:34.18 | hacosta | stickyboot: i just use vim, since each key is just a line, i dd to remove it. |
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| 07:34.30 | stickyboot | ok |
| 07:34.33 | stickyboot | sounds good |
| 07:34.36 | stickyboot | thanks |
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| 07:35.51 | hacosta | fasta: i'd create a group say foobar and then find /usr/local -type d -exec chgrp foobar {} \; |
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| 07:36.28 | hacosta | fasta: and find /usr/local -type d -exec chmod g+rwx {} \; |
| 07:36.56 | fasta | hacosta: the second command isn't needed, right? |
| 07:37.01 | kalle_ | whats the latest kde version on squeeze? 4.4.5? is there a newer one in backports or testing? 4.4.5 is unuseable! and 4.8.x has been imporved a lot i heared.... |
| 07:37.37 | hacosta | fasta: yep, the first one changes the group of all directories in /usr/local to foobar, and the second one gives the group all permissions |
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| 07:39.37 | muikae | Hey guys. I have a problem with gnome fallback, there's too much space between icons. Please take a look here: http://i.imgur.com/lVldy.png |
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| 07:50.13 | Mtl_Harmony | Hello. I've some USB Device. In a software, I use the USB ID (like:mid00,usb,device=VID_147e_PID_2016_BCD_0002_BUS_002:02). If I dont unplug/plug again the devices. Does the ID change on restart ? |
| 07:50.54 | Mtl_Harmony | It's on a Debian Server. I wont unplug the devices. But may be restart if a power outage occurs. I dont want to reconfigure the server again after :-p |
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| 07:51.26 | nsadmin | what is the device? |
| 07:51.55 | Sm0ke0ut | looks like it will change |
| 07:52.01 | Sm0ke0ut | as the PID is included |
| 07:52.33 | nsadmin | what's it the pid of? |
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| 07:55.59 | nsadmin | Sm0ke0ut, what is the purpose of the process whose id is embedded in the usb id? |
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| 08:06.23 | Mtl_Harmony | Sorry |
| 08:06.25 | Mtl_Harmony | Was AFK |
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| 08:06.48 | stickyboot | i cant figure this out... Can I install things using aptitude without root or sudo? I just want to install 'more' for my user account? |
| 08:07.01 | stickyboot | any ideas how to do that? |
| 08:07.24 | nsadmin | stickyboot, no, but you can use the compilers if they are installed |
| 08:07.30 | stickyboot | yeah they are |
| 08:07.40 | nsadmin | besides, is more not installed now? |
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| 08:07.52 | stickyboot | ohh |
| 08:07.53 | stickyboot | wow |
| 08:07.54 | stickyboot | derp |
| 08:07.59 | stickyboot | i guess it is |
| 08:08.05 | nsadmin | welcome |
| 08:08.19 | stickyboot | ty |
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| 08:09.04 | nsadmin | was there anything else I or someone could help you with? |
| 08:09.08 | Mtl_Harmony | If I plug the USB, booting the Debian... |
| 08:09.15 | stickyboot | no not specifically |
| 08:09.23 | Mtl_Harmony | If I reboot, the Kernel attribute random ID or it's based on the order ? |
| 08:09.33 | Mtl_Harmony | If it's on the Order, it's ok because i'll never unplug |
| 08:09.34 | dannNiel | Hi. Is it possible to change the hostname of my webserver (DNS, FTP, SQL, EMAIL, ..) without problems, or does i have to reconfigure the services? |
| 08:09.45 | nsadmin | ok, good enough |
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| 08:10.34 | nsadmin | Mtl_Harmony, all I can do at the moment is gather info... so far we know the usb id contains the pid of something |
| 08:11.14 | nsadmin | so you may have to parse out pieces of the id when you see it |
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| 08:13.15 | usc911 | Hey guys, having a weird issue, I can ssh in to my box if I use the static ip I have, but if I try ssh using the local IP it just times out, I also have no access to my samba shares locally |
| 08:13.20 | usc911 | anyone have any thiughts? |
| 08:13.35 | stickyboot | nsadmin: actually, i got ahead of myself, by more, I meant 'most' |
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| 08:13.44 | Mtl_Harmony | Ok ok |
| 08:13.46 | Mtl_Harmony | :-) |
| 08:13.47 | stickyboot | i want to have access to most in my user space |
| 08:14.03 | sturles | usc911: Netmask is wrong? |
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| 08:15.07 | usr_share | I'm sorry, but does anybody have a clue on how to make one's framebuffer have a background image? |
| 08:15.14 | nsadmin | you might have to reconfigure services, specifically, those services that need the domain name; at least mail and web server require actual names |
| 08:15.20 | nsadmin | , v most |
| 08:15.22 | judd | Package: most on i386 -- lenny: 5.0.0a-1; squeeze: 5.0.0a-2; sid: 5.0.0a-2.1; wheezy: 5.0.0a-2.1 |
| 08:15.25 | usc911 | Im unsure how, this machine has been running perfectly for 2+ years |
| 08:15.36 | nsadmin | , depends most |
| 08:15.37 | judd | Package most in squeeze/i386 -- depends: libc6 (>= 2.7), libslang2 (>= 2.0.7-1). |
| 08:16.40 | nsadmin | , v libslang-dev |
| 08:16.41 | judd | No package named 'libslang-dev' was found in i386. |
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| 08:16.48 | nsadmin | , v libslang2-dev |
| 08:16.49 | judd | Package: libslang2-dev on i386 -- lenny: 2.1.3-3; squeeze: 2.2.2-4; sid: 2.2.4-15; wheezy: 2.2.4-15 |
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| 08:17.28 | nsadmin | ok stickyboot, you will need to make sure libslang2-dev package is installed |
| 08:17.48 | stickyboot | hrrm, maybe i can just get the admin to install the package |
| 08:18.01 | nsadmin | , info most |
| 08:18.02 | judd | Package most (text, optional) in squeeze/i386: Pager program similar to more and less. Version: 5.0.0a-2; Size: 46.6k; Installed: 168k; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/most |
| 08:18.14 | stickyboot | i was hoping to make some .file setting change to let aptitude install to user space |
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| 08:18.49 | nsadmin | I don'[t know if that kind of thing is planned |
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| 08:19.53 | kalle_ | hi, can please someone point me to the right docu where i can find a list of sources for apt, e.g. testing? i read through the wiki but cant find a simple list of apt sources, a lot of information is there, but i didnt find a simple list. i diged through some forums, but most entries are older. i dotn believe in forum posts, so please can someone give me the correct link? |
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| 08:20.39 | nsadmin | right now the way debian packages work, is they install in one specific place every time they are installed on any machine |
| 08:21.23 | nsadmin | kalle_, |
| 08:21.25 | kalle_ | the wiki search also doesnt help a lot, most of the docs are marked obsolete or e.g. are for woody |
| 08:21.30 | nsadmin | !mirrors |
| 08:21.30 | dpkg | Debian mirror sites are listed at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list and ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt and http://deb.li/map ; ask me about <apt-spy>, <netselect-apt>, <geo sources.list> and <debian mirror checker>. To make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ ; see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <mirror size>. #debian-mirrors on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 08:22.42 | kalle_ | ok, but tat doe not give me the deb sources list to enter in apt.sources |
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| 08:23.32 | kalle_ | nsadmin: i dont need a mirror, i already have set the right location, but how to switch from stable to testing? |
| 08:23.48 | nsadmin | kalle_, ok. one thing you can do is read man 5 sources.list |
| 08:23.57 | nsadmin | or I can tell you the basics |
| 08:23.59 | nsadmin | which? |
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| 08:24.41 | kalle_ | basics, what to replace in apt.sources to get testing instead of stable :) |
| 08:24.49 | kalle_ | thats all info im looking for, ... |
| 08:25.06 | kalle_ | let me guess, replace 'stable' with 'testing'? also for backports? |
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| 08:25.26 | nsadmin | I'm getting there :) |
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| 08:26.05 | kalle_ | ? |
| 08:26.10 | nsadmin | so there are two forms of sources.list line, one is for mirrors and the other is for simple user-contributed repos |
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| 08:26.37 | nsadmin | we will not be talking about the latter (but it's in the man page in case you're interested later) |
| 08:26.48 | kalle_ | i just read through the man page |
| 08:26.56 | nsadmin | and? |
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| 08:27.08 | kalle_ | all i want is essential info what exactly i have to type in sources.list to get testing/sid instead of stable |
| 08:27.24 | kalle_ | replace 'stable' with 'testing'? |
| 08:27.29 | kalle_ | or unstable? |
| 08:27.33 | hell_razer | does anybode here using ec2? |
| 08:27.43 | nsadmin | and the man page didn't provide that? ok. |
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| 08:28.07 | kalle_ | the manpage gives some examples, but i dont believe in examples that point to /home/somebody/bla |
| 08:28.25 | kalle_ | it can be 'anything' if the repo is set that way |
| 08:28.43 | nsadmin | a source line looks like: deb <url> <release> <category> { <category> } |
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| 08:29.14 | nsadmin | <category> { <category> } simply means one or more <category>s |
| 08:29.18 | kalle_ | ok, deb http://.... squeeze main non-free contrib |
| 08:29.29 | nsadmin | exactly |
| 08:29.29 | kalle_ | so replace 'squeeze' with '?' |
| 08:29.33 | kalle_ | to get testing? |
| 08:29.37 | nsadmin | wheezy |
| 08:29.40 | kalle_ | ah! |
| 08:29.45 | kalle_ | thats the info i need |
| 08:29.47 | kalle_ | thx |
| 08:29.50 | nsadmin | I would recommend you do not use "testing" |
| 08:29.59 | kalle_ | i must, or use another distro |
| 08:30.06 | kalle_ | kde4 in stable is UNUSEABLE! |
| 08:30.24 | nsadmin | otherwise when a new testing is established, you could be surprised |
| 08:30.26 | kalle_ | 4.4.5 is quite old and usability has improved sionce then a lot |
| 08:30.37 | nsadmin | understood... relax :) |
| 08:30.46 | kalle_ | however, if recommended or not, i ll try it out |
| 08:30.48 | nsadmin | wheezy is testing right now |
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| 08:30.54 | kalle_ | k |
| 08:31.26 | sauvin | I'm using KDE4 in stable and find it very usable. |
| 08:31.28 | kalle_ | can/must i remove the backports repo ? |
| 08:31.31 | nsadmin | so if you want testing, I think you should use "wheezy" and -not- "testing" so that you don't get surprised someday |
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| 08:31.48 | kalle_ | sauvin: i tried it for 5 mins and found a lot of issues |
| 08:31.50 | nsadmin | are you trying to upgrade now? |
| 08:31.57 | sauvin | What kinds of issues? |
| 08:32.09 | kalle_ | alt+f2 has no run as root checkbox |
| 08:32.20 | kalle_ | systemsettings in kde also have no run in admin mode button |
| 08:32.32 | nsadmin | sauvin, how did you get kde4 in stable? :) |
| 08:32.40 | nsadmin | I may want to try that |
| 08:32.50 | kalle_ | kde4 in stable is 4.4.5 , current kde is 4.8 |
| 08:33.07 | kalle_ | and regarding to those guys in #kde a lot of improvements have made in between |
| 08:33.19 | nsadmin | kalle_, so if you decide to stay with stable, then I think you should use the name "squeeze" |
| 08:33.23 | sauvin | I simply apt-get installed it. |
| 08:33.24 | kalle_ | e.g. the alt+f2 thingy, the systemsettings thingy etc |
| 08:33.37 | kalle_ | nsadmin: no stable is too legacy :) |
| 08:33.48 | kalle_ | i personally have lenny on my personal laptop, which is very nice |
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| 08:34.04 | kalle_ | squeeze would kill it. vbut this is a new laptop for the office i got.... |
| 08:34.09 | kalle_ | so ill give it a try |
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| 08:34.37 | kalle_ | do i need to disable backports repo? |
| 08:34.42 | kalle_ | for wheezy? |
| 08:34.50 | nsadmin | kalle, is it that you are running squeeze now and wish to run wheezy? |
| 08:35.00 | kalle_ | nsadmin: exactly |
| 08:35.15 | nsadmin | ok. got some stuff for ya to read |
| 08:35.23 | kalle_ | :D |
| 08:35.48 | nsadmin | they are the install guide and the wheezy release notes (do those exist yet?) |
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| 08:37.53 | kalle_ | ok, the install guide i already have |
| 08:37.57 | nsadmin | other than that... I'll just let you know that wheezy has been a moving target while it was prepared for freeze |
| 08:37.58 | nsadmin | it |
| 08:37.58 | nsadmin | is now frozen |
| 08:38.24 | kalle_ | so its kind of stable ? and only updates accepted? correct? |
| 08:39.17 | nsadmin | well what is accepted is what the release team decides to accept |
| 08:39.19 | kalle_ | ok, i disable backports and replace squeeze with wheezy in sources.list, i guess thats the correct way, then do a dist-upgrade? |
| 08:39.27 | kalle_ | question : use apt-get or aptitude? |
| 08:39.38 | nsadmin | you can decide |
| 08:39.43 | nsadmin | !why aptitude |
| 08:39.43 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). For some upgrades, apt-get is preferred (e.g. lenny->squeeze). Read the release notes and http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9. |
| 08:39.51 | kalle_ | i prefer to use synaptic when in x, i heared about problems using aptitude together with synaptic |
| 08:40.11 | nsadmin | I don't know about those |
| 08:40.17 | fasta | Is there some program to color stdout and stderr differently? |
| 08:40.21 | kalle_ | and i can confirm this for lenny :) |
| 08:40.38 | fasta | E.g. stdout green and stderr red. |
| 08:40.59 | nsadmin | fasta, if you can color anything, you can redirect using 1> and 2> |
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| 08:44.39 | fasta | nsadmin: but then you lose the order in which it was output, no? |
| 08:44.40 | nsadmin | fasta, look thru http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=color+stdout&ei=UTF-8 |
| 08:44.41 | nsadmin | looks like there are links of interest to you |
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| 08:44.42 | ShishKabab | (Sorry for reposting this, but I had too reboot.) My (PS2) keyboard and USB mouse suddenly stopped working yesterday in X (the kb still works in a terminal) while I didn't do any updates or config changes since it worked as far as I can remember. If I reinsert the USB mouse it works again, and the same goes for booting with a USB kb and reinserting it. Any ideas what could cause this? |
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| 08:46.02 | dokma|2 | how do I list available java vms in debian |
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| 08:46.17 | dokma | I don't see java-config exec anywhere |
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| 08:46.45 | dokma | I've seen stuff like java-config --list-available-vms |
| 08:46.46 | nsadmin | dokma, I believe the situation now is the only way to get oracle java is from oracle |
| 08:47.10 | nsadmin | unless you mean openjdk and friends |
| 08:47.12 | dokma | nsadmin: I'm asking how to list which vms are available and installed on a debian box |
| 08:47.30 | nsadmin | I don't know the answer to that |
| 08:47.41 | dokma | thanks anyway |
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| 08:48.08 | kalle_ | is there no more update-alternatives java or so? |
| 08:48.13 | nsadmin | there may not be a way if some common packaging was not created |
| 08:48.24 | kalle_ | it opened a menu in lenny where you could select the vm |
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| 08:49.10 | nsadmin | I don't know the answer to that either... personally, I should still have a jdk I knstalled from before orackle cackled about java |
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| 08:51.08 | kalle_ | i did aptitude safe-upgrade after chaning sources.list for wheezy, now i have open: 59xxxx closed:185xxx defer:xxx conflict: xxx, what do these values mean? is defer: and conflict: critical? |
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| 08:53.27 | nsadmin | the aptitude man page should tell you what those mean; I haven't read it yet... |
| 08:53.47 | nsadmin | one thing I'm curious about, is did the safe-upgrade install a kernel |
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| 08:55.31 | nsadmin | if yes, you might reboot into that kernel before continuing the upgrade |
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| 08:55.45 | nsadmin | or, did you already upgrade the kernel? |
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| 08:57.28 | kalle_ | it sstill counting open, closed, defer and conflict... seems to take a while |
| 08:57.39 | kalle_ | i alaready have backports kernel 3.0.0 installed yesterday |
| 08:57.40 | nsadmin | oh, so it's still running |
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| 08:58.35 | nsadmin | oh ok, there could be a later one in wheezy |
| 08:58.37 | nsadmin | let's see |
| 08:58.40 | nsadmin | , kernels |
| 08:58.42 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.4-trunk-686-pae (3.4.4-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-3-686-pae (3.2.21-3); wheezy: 3.2.0-3-686-pae (3.2.21-3); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.2.20-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-45); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-29) |
| 08:59.09 | nsadmin | yeah, wheezy has 3.2.x |
| 08:59.41 | kalle_ | lenny backports already have 3.0 :) |
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| 09:00.09 | nsadmin | hmm, so maybe that would work for your other laptop |
| 09:00.14 | kalle_ | 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 to be exact |
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| 09:00.56 | nsadmin | oh, that's your current uname -r? |
| 09:01.02 | kalle_ | nsadmin: with 2.6.32 most featuires of the laptop are not available/enabled. |
| 09:01.23 | nsadmin | of the new one? or old one? |
| 09:01.27 | kalle_ | nsadmin: yepp, thats the current backports kernel, installe dyesterday |
| 09:01.42 | kalle_ | nsadmin: of the new laptop, old one still has lenny |
| 09:02.33 | excalibr | has anyone been able to set up internet sharing for reverse usb tethering? |
| 09:02.38 | kalle_ | its a lenovo l520... and i have to blame lenovo a lot for this piece of hardware... its a thinkpad, not worth calling it a thinkpad :).. but thats a completely other story *g |
| 09:03.34 | kalle_ | the old one is a t42p and debian lenny looks and works like it was written for it *g |
| 09:03.55 | kalle_ | stable, legacy, but old and un-updateable *gg* |
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| 09:04.57 | nyuszika7h | Sorry for cross-posting, but is there a way to apply the process limit to currently running processes? It's a server and I wouldn't really like to reboot, especially that it was rebooted yesterday night because of a crash. |
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| 09:05.22 | nsadmin | I would have had a $4000 thinkpad many years ago, but then dell had a $2.5k laptop that was more power and more ram |
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| 09:06.05 | nsadmin | the power supply went out... I was taking notes for a clasee |
| 09:06.10 | nsadmin | class |
| 09:06.32 | atomms | hi! i'm using debian and have just uninstalled phpmyadmin for i don't really wan t my server compromised by a web tool for mysql administration |
| 09:06.36 | nsadmin | anyway, kalle_, yes, that does take awhile |
| 09:07.17 | atomms | do you know any other GUI i can use in a ssh terminal for mysql administration? |
| 09:07.33 | nsadmin | I use postgres and tcl, and like you, I don't use a web-based admin tool |
| 09:08.03 | nyuszika7h | "i don't really wan t my server comprimised by a web tool for mysql administration" - no offense intended, but can't you just secure phpMyAdmin properly? |
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| 09:08.38 | nsadmin | I don't know much about mysql. I would write text files to do things like extablish and drop data models |
| 09:10.06 | atomms | i've seen my apache logs and there are many unknow entries looking for phpmyadmin, it just make me unconfortable |
| 09:10.46 | atomms | and i'd like to adminstrate it from a terminal but in a more handy way than commands |
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| 09:11.15 | atomms | that's why i'm trying to find a very basic GUI i can use from a terminal |
| 09:11.31 | babilen | atomms: Are you talking about something like http://www.mysql.com/products/workbench/ ? (packaged as mysql-workbench) -- I would also recommend to ask this question in #mysql and to consider merely using a collection of scripts. The mysql-utilities package might come in handy too. |
| 09:11.33 | atomms | (for mysql rather than postgres) |
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| 09:12.38 | babilen | atomms: I am not aware of a curses based tool (/me is strongly preferring postgres and I don't have to temper that much with my DBs once they are up and running - I just write SQL to do that (or a wrapper in python such as SQLAlchemy)) |
| 09:13.06 | atomms | ok, i'll check that, any of you is using ISPConfig for remotely managing a server? |
| 09:13.09 | nsadmin | atomms, is this for a mysql running at home? |
| 09:13.26 | atomms | it is mysql running at a server |
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| 09:13.50 | nsadmin | the machine is at your house? or is it a remote? |
| 09:13.55 | atomms | it is remote |
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| 09:14.10 | atomms | and i don't have a remote desktop installed |
| 09:14.11 | babilen | atomms: I use SSH |
| 09:14.18 | atomms | so do i |
| 09:14.27 | babilen | !tell atomms -about free whcp |
| 09:14.28 | nsadmin | ok, I can guarantee a gui running over ssh is going to be dog slow |
| 09:16.30 | atomms | free whcp? |
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| 09:20.25 | atomms | is "whcp" the name of a certain control panel tool or is it the acronym for all of them? |
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| 09:21.15 | babilen | atomms: You should have received a private message from our bot (dhcp) which lists a number of free web hosting control panels. (WHCP) -- You can ask it yourself with "/msg dpkg free whcp" |
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| 09:21.42 | cusco | quick networking question, if I am to plug a second network cable providing different ip/network, how do I specify that a specific network (over a vpn) goes out via eth0, while making eth1 default ? |
| 09:21.49 | nsadmin | atomms, I'll concur... I use ssh, non-x emacs on the server... I operate the server using only shell commands, I have root on it when I need to do stuff, I have a lot of experience with the shell and I strongly recommend you learn the shell and as many commands as you can, that you learn to compile stuff when you need to and to set things up |
| 09:22.31 | nsadmin | cusco, I haven't ever been successful with more than one default route |
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| 09:22.50 | nsadmin | the second default route always froze the net |
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| 09:23.22 | nsadmin | do you want to switch to a different provider? |
| 09:23.43 | atomms | babilen: sure, i'm reading that, thanks! |
| 09:24.41 | cusco | nsadmin: I wish only one default route, but traffic dst=10.100.100.0/24 to go via another interface |
| 09:24.56 | cusco | hmm |
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| 09:25.55 | nsadmin | cusco, to make that happen, how did you configure what you have now, by altering /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 09:26.19 | atomms | nsadmin: yes, i'd keep on managing my server through shell commands and i'd like to avoid those whcp, only i would feel happy to find a very basic graphic tool i can use in a terminal to operate on mysql, that's all |
| 09:26.41 | cusco | nsadmin: I haven't yet, I only have my current network configured in interfaces, via dhcp |
| 09:26.57 | cusco | now I wish to configure another, with static IP to become the default route |
| 09:26.59 | cusco | on eth1 |
| 09:28.11 | cusco | atomms: you can keep on using phpmyadmin, and make it available only to your local net, or only to your IP |
| 09:28.23 | cusco | or use any other tool available |
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| 09:30.22 | hanibana | is it possible with iptables? |
| 09:31.22 | nsadmin | cusco, that machine has two interfaces? |
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| 09:35.45 | babilen | atomms: I still recommend to ask #mysql -- They are probably aware of such a tool if it exists and you can then check if it has been packaged for Debian |
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| 09:55.24 | wopi | Hi All, Debian 6, Apache2 installed, how I can get httpasswd get working ? |
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| 10:17.01 | drigollier | hi |
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| 10:24.05 | kalle_ | wow, aptitude safe-upgrade still thinking about dependencies, using 89% memory... ~ 5GB ) |
| 10:24.11 | kalle_ | with massive swapping |
| 10:24.31 | PhoenixSTF | kalle_, your upgrading to? |
| 10:24.35 | kalle_ | yes |
| 10:24.40 | kalle_ | or better, i try to |
| 10:24.51 | PhoenixSTF | to what version? |
| 10:25.01 | kalle_ | from fresh installed squeeze to wheezy |
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| 10:25.19 | kalle_ | but it seems its getting more complicated# |
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| 10:26.22 | thewanderer1 | aptitude uses backtracking I think, hence the memory usage |
| 10:26.24 | kalle_ | maybe theres a netinstall for testing available, that would save emotions, time, and a lot of ressources, grml |
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| 10:26.31 | thewanderer1 | lots of lots of graph copies |
| 10:26.48 | thewanderer1 | try apt-get? |
| 10:27.00 | kalle_ | why? |
| 10:27.10 | kalle_ | it says aptitude resolv dependencies much better |
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| 10:27.46 | PhoenixSTF | kalle_, nothing will be safe has long has murphys law is around |
| 10:27.52 | kalle_ | however, the machine upgrades since 1 or 2h now, and thats just the deps... on a quadcore with 4gb ram,,..... unbelievable |
| 10:28.02 | thewanderer1 | aptitude has notoriously had problems with dist upgrades |
| 10:28.08 | kalle_ | oh |
| 10:28.15 | kalle_ | yes it seems so :)) |
| 10:28.19 | thewanderer1 | I don't think it's been the recommended dist upgrade manager since lenny |
| 10:28.28 | PhoenixSTF | use apt-get its very mature |
| 10:28.39 | kalle_ | apt-get safe-upgrade too? |
| 10:28.56 | thewanderer1 | apt-get dist-upgrade, and adjust accordingly |
| 10:29.11 | kalle_ | hmpf |
| 10:29.44 | thewanderer1 | aptitude is trying really hard not to remove anything - the thing is, it's a complete release overhaul, so some things are bound to be dropped |
| 10:29.44 | kalle_ | maybe after one week now, someday i get a working system :P ... and if, its getting legacy after a few days ..... lol |
| 10:30.05 | kalle_ | yeah, a lot of useful things dropped from debian.... |
| 10:30.09 | thewanderer1 | apt-get worked for me, at least (maybe it removed gnome and X, but that's a minor quibble) |
| 10:30.22 | thewanderer1 | nothing that you can't reinstall later :P |
| 10:30.56 | PhoenixSTF | just cancel aptitude and do apt-get, if it goes wrong, just fresh install weezy |
| 10:30.59 | kalle_ | thewanderer1: wrong, in lenny there was no ardour..... that was a pita when you worked with it and then after upfgrade it s gone without any word |
| 10:31.17 | kalle_ | i mean from etch to lenny..... |
| 10:31.30 | thewanderer1 | well, packages sometimes get dropped from Debian, and there's always a reason |
| 10:31.44 | kalle_ | thats why i donated my money to ardour for their great help on setting up a fresh ardour from cvs, instead of donating to debian again and again. |
| 10:32.05 | kalle_ | this really breked my production environment for some weeks |
| 10:32.27 | kalle_ | and in case of ardour, there was no good reason to do so |
| 10:32.39 | kalle_ | just lazy package maintainers :)) |
| 10:33.19 | PhoenixSTF | cvs? is that the one Uncle Linus spoke so bad about? |
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| 10:34.16 | thewanderer1 | kalle_: the usual reasons are security issues or build failures that couldn't be resolved before release. you can surely see the bug report which lead to its deletion... |
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| 10:36.17 | kalle_ | however, the bug may exist in previous versions and no one cared about it, e.g., but removing an app without a warning in big red letters is crazy, and leads to grumbling users, like me ;-) |
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| 10:37.06 | thewanderer1 | you can run the old package in most cases |
| 10:37.07 | kalle_ | instead of no app i prefer buggy ones :P |
| 10:37.31 | kalle_ | thewanderer1: i cant tell you what i have tried to get ardour again |
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| 10:37.36 | thewanderer1 | it was what I did with faubackup - it was removed from squeeze (no maintainer), but the lenny version still works fine |
| 10:37.51 | kalle_ | no chance for ardour |
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| 10:38.12 | tapas | hi, does the init.d scripts have some hook where i can just enter a script to run at boot? |
| 10:38.15 | kalle_ | but fortunately ardour devs knew about that fact and quickly found a solution |
| 10:38.29 | tapas | or will i have to implement a full fledge init script (with start/stop, etc..) |
| 10:38.32 | thewanderer1 | tapas: /etc/rc.local is for your own snippets |
| 10:38.49 | kajo | hi, is this "last" output ok ? --> http://paste.debian.net/178598/ notice the line of 'reboot' (line 177 and line 188). there are two lines like this: "reboot system boot 3.2.0-2-amd64 Mon Jul 9 17:43 - 12:00 (1+18:17)" . Looking at these logs it seems like my pc reebooted ?!? but AFIK that reboot didnt take place 'cause uptime gave me ~42hours of uptime. So i have these 2 lines, 1 of them (i think the newest one) is extra ... is that nor |
| 10:39.30 | tapas | thewanderer1: aaah right.. thanks :F |
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| 10:40.15 | kalle_ | i can remember the discussion about ardour and lenny, and it was not nice :) a lot of people had problems, therefor we decided to not use debian packages for production use... e.g. blender package for debian is quite useless, patched to death :P so, for ardour, blender, we learned to prefer the cvs snapshots or stable official binaries frmo the dev team itself |
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| 10:43.40 | tapas | thewanderer1: hmm, since i start a long living process i guess i need to detach the script from the rc.local script.. |
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| 10:43.52 | thewanderer1 | tapas: yes |
| 10:44.13 | tapas | i wonder if it still works with nohup |
| 10:44.29 | thewanderer1 | you can use start-stop-daemon, see the manpage |
| 10:45.20 | tapas | thewanderer1: ah cool, so that's not just for real daemons ;D |
| 10:45.41 | tapas | nohup /srv/apns/run_apnsd.sh & |
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| 10:45.50 | tapas | this works fine for now, so i won't touch it anymore :d |
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| 10:57.35 | superdmp | how can I make the system do all the things that are in rc.local, as though the machine had just been started up? |
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| 11:05.39 | stew | superdmp: run "/etc/rc.local" ? |
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| 11:06.19 | superdmp | stew: and do I need to do it as root to emulate what would happen at boot up? (will sudo be enough)? |
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| 11:08.50 | shaullx | hi, my tmpfs mounted on tmp has only 1mb of space, how do i increase it? |
| 11:09.01 | shaullx | something went wrong after my last server restart i assume |
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| 11:09.20 | thewanderer1 | superdmp: run it as root. sudo should be enough if you don't rely on variables such as home directories (which you shouldn't, anyway) |
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| 11:09.51 | thewanderer1 | shaullx: umount it and mount again, this time with a different -o size= parameter |
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| 11:10.09 | superdmp | thewanderer1: thanks - it's odd, I can do sudo /etc/rc.local and it does what I expect, but at bootup it appears to do nothing |
| 11:11.04 | thewanderer1 | superdmp: paste the script to paste.debian.net... |
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| 11:11.39 | shaullx | thewanderer1, could you give me the command please? x: |
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| 11:12.46 | superdmp | thewanderer1: http://dpaste.com/769394/ |
| 11:13.09 | thewanderer1 | shaullx: umount /tmp && mount -t tmpfs -o size=200m tmp /tmp |
| 11:14.20 | shaullx | umount: /tmp: device is busy. |
| 11:14.21 | shaullx | :3 |
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| 11:14.26 | thewanderer1 | superdmp: make it echo something, so that you know it runs at boot. other than that, I haven't got any idea about uwsgi - maybe it expects some other daemon to be running? try making the command more verbose |
| 11:14.41 | thewanderer1 | shaullx: well, stop all processes that are using it :P |
| 11:15.03 | Calinou | for some reason my desktop froze (testing amd64), what can I do? other than hard-resetting |
| 11:15.09 | cads | hey guys |
| 11:15.10 | Calinou | (xfce) |
| 11:15.33 | superdmp | thewanderer1: i don't have console access, only ssh, so I can't see what's happening when it boots - i'll ask on #uwsgi - thanks |
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| 11:15.55 | mof_ | hi |
| 11:17.14 | cads | Suppose I have package XYZ.1.1.1.1. Suppose I'd like to package a specialized configuration for XYZ. Would I create a new version of XYZ, or could I create a special package which would depend XYZ.1.1.1.1 and modify the appropriate files? |
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| 11:19.26 | kalle_ | funny aptitude still running trying to safe-upgrade, i cancel this now, seems useless to wait for it to finish |
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| 11:19.37 | Calinou | apt-get > aptitude |
| 11:19.50 | Calinou | nevermind, it unfroze. :x |
| 11:19.55 | kalle_ | yeah |
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| 11:20.37 | kalle_ | lol. apt-get dist-upgrade starts immediately and at least reports what it does |
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| 11:21.48 | Calinou | even more freezing now |
| 11:21.49 | Calinou | tried to reboot |
| 11:21.58 | kalle_ | Calinou: no shell available? |
| 11:22.14 | kalle_ | i mean console, alt+f1, or ctrl+alt+f1/2,3,4 |
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| 11:22.19 | Calinou | > used shutdown command, works |
| 11:22.19 | kalle_ | maybe ssh? |
| 11:22.23 | Calinou | *_* |
| 11:22.25 | kalle_ | :) |
| 11:23.41 | simonlnu | cads: ask in #debian-mentors on oftc |
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| 11:24.29 | cads | oftc? |
| 11:24.49 | Calinou | irc.debian.org |
| 11:24.55 | Calinou | redirects FTW |
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| 11:35.53 | kajo_afk | hi, isnt this "last" output strange ? --> http://paste.debian.net/178598/ notice the line of 'reboot' (line 177 and line 188). there are two lines like this: "reboot system boot 3.2.0-2-amd64 Mon Jul 9 17:43 - 12:00 (1+18:17)" . Looking at these logs it seems like my pc reebooted ?!? but AFIK that reboot didnt take place 'cause uptime gave me ~42hours of uptime. So i have these 2 lines, 1 of them (i think the newest one) is extra ... |
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| 11:37.56 | wiiguy | how can i download the testing vlc ? |
| 11:39.03 | streuner_ | packages.debian.org/vlc |
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| 11:40.05 | wiiguy | ok ty :) |
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| 11:41.28 | rizlah | How long will testing be frozen? |
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| 11:41.37 | Calinou | depends |
| 11:41.41 | Calinou | on average, freezing is 8 months IIRC |
| 11:41.47 | Calinou | (quite long yes) |
| 11:41.57 | rizlah | 8 months? :O |
| 11:42.25 | Calinou | yes, I think. |
| 11:42.35 | Calinou | it depends, but the average is 7 months |
| 11:42.38 | Calinou | +-1 month |
| 11:42.38 | rizlah | I cannot believe that. |
| 11:42.59 | jelly-home | yeah, it's pretty short compared to what it used to be |
| 11:44.05 | boudiccas | rizlah: why cant you believe it? |
| 11:44.32 | Calinou | ^ that's how debian /stable/ is stable :P |
| 11:44.33 | jelly-home | probably wants the release to be like in woody-etch days |
| 11:44.37 | rizlah | 8 months is ridiculous. I would think a few months (~2) would be fine |
| 11:44.43 | stew | rizlah: we release when the green line is (near) zero: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ |
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| 11:44.57 | stew | rizlah: you should be able to see from that graph that there is a long way to go yet |
| 11:45.03 | rizlah | hmm |
| 11:45.15 | thewanderer1 | rizlah: if you want it to be shorter, fix some RC bugs :) |
| 11:45.34 | Calinou | stew, how do you make these graphs? I've seen a lot of those, with similar font |
| 11:45.39 | Calinou | :P |
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| 11:47.08 | stew | Calinou: gnuplot: http://bzr.donarmstrong.com/debbugs/branches/bugscan/dograph |
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| 11:50.48 | simonlnu | the font looks like Fixed |
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| 11:51.21 | Calinou | fixes simonlnu |
| 11:51.33 | stew | !fix Calinou |
| 11:51.33 | dpkg | takes Calinou to the vet for a "special" visit. |
| 11:51.46 | Calinou | lol |
| 11:52.15 | Calinou | <streuner_> packages.debian.org/vlc < can't resolve hostname |
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| 11:56.07 | viezerd | hello |
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| 11:56.47 | viezerd | I've read the code freeze of wheezy planned on 30 June, any news about that ? |
| 11:57.07 | rizlah | It is frozen |
| 11:57.17 | streuner_ | Calinou: PING packages.debian.org (87.106.64.223) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 11:57.18 | streuner_ | 64 bytes from powell.debian.org (87.106.64.223): icmp_req=1 ttl=57 time=29.6 ms |
| 11:57.18 | rizlah | Just need to wait 8 months for the "official release" |
| 11:57.47 | simonlnu | viezerd: see this channel's /topic |
| 11:57.48 | streuner_ | Calinou: 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms - rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 29.609/29.609/29.609/0.000 ms |
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| 11:58.07 | viezerd | cool, thanks for the answer. |
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| 11:58.43 | simonlnu | also notes it's 11 july |
| 11:59.33 | simonlnu | viezerd: you might wanna check out /msg dpkg slushy (if relevant) |
| 11:59.36 | simonlnu | too |
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| 12:00.54 | viezerd | I'll check that. My android irc client is not so featurefull to check topic :) |
| 12:01.08 | Volkswagner | I have tried both gnome-power-manager and xfce4-power-manager, neither will update /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/charge_now |
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| 12:01.20 | simonlnu | maybe displayed it when you joined the chan? |
| 12:01.40 | Volkswagner | does anyone know what service is responsible for polling the battery state and writing to /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/charge_now |
| 12:01.51 | Volkswagner | is it pm-utils? |
| 12:01.58 | Hammen | not sure if this is the right channel, but htop displays the user of procs/threads owned by non-root users in black text |
| 12:02.03 | Hammen | how can I change this? :< |
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| 12:05.15 | simonlnu | Hammen: it has a built-in help |
| 12:05.32 | Hammen | doesn't say anything about this |
| 12:05.35 | Hammen | I've checked |
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| 12:10.49 | superdmp | how can I get some hardware information from the command line? I'd like to know RAM, CPU cores, speed, etc |
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| 12:12.13 | fir31ight | superdmp: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 12:12.22 | fir31ight | superdmp: cat /proc/meminfo |
| 12:12.45 | superdmp | wow, lots of info, thanks fir31ight |
| 12:12.47 | fir31ight | superdmp: lspci |
| 12:12.53 | lasers | superdmp: I like hardinfo for GUI. :\ |
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| 12:13.08 | superdmp | cli only... |
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| 12:14.05 | lasers | "lscpu" |
| 12:14.46 | lasers | "lshw" |
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| 12:15.25 | superdmp | wow, four CPUs - does that mean four cores or really four CPUs? |
| 12:15.38 | superdmp | 4 CPUs seems unlikely |
| 12:15.55 | fir31ight | look at socket count |
| 12:16.03 | fir31ight | that is physical cpu's |
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| 12:16.23 | nmschulte | Where should the shell command "set -o vi" be placed? I don't think it should go in ~/.bash*, because those are bash specific, and I believe "set -o" (and other set commands) are a sort of standard and should work with many shells. Does this mean it should go in ~/.profile? |
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| 12:16.52 | abrotman | do you want it global ? |
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| 12:17.05 | nmschulte | abrotman: I want it per user. |
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| 12:23.16 | dawud | nmschulte: .profile is ignored if your user's shell is bash and .bash_profile exists |
| 12:23.44 | nmschulte | dawud: correct; I have ~/.bash_profile source ~/.profile |
| 12:24.22 | dawud | nmschulte: ok then |
| 12:24.32 | nmschulte | (as well as ~/.bashrc, as that is a similar situation). So, does that mean that ~/.profile is the correct, shell agnostic, way of setting that option? |
| 12:25.18 | Volkswagner | is it normal for xfce-power-man to have no activity while running top? The time remains constant > 1439 root 20 0 17772 6664 4900 S 0.0 1.4 0:00.51 xfce4-power-man |
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| 12:26.23 | dawud | nmschulte: if you make any shell's default startup script source .profile, then yes, it could do the trick. think about zsh, it has its own files too, for example |
| 12:26.28 | abrotman | nmschulte: seems reasonable .. or even a ~/.environment |
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| 12:28.21 | nmschulte | abrotman: I've never heard of ~/.environment. Are you suggesting I make a ~/.environment and setup my shell to source it, or that ~/.environment is standard? |
| 12:28.46 | nmschulte | I'm finding mit.edu pages referencing ~/.environment, so that's a good sign. |
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| 12:34.25 | abrotman | nmschulte: i only mentioned it because Debian has a /etc/environment |
| 12:34.35 | abrotman | (not sure if RH based distros do) |
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| 12:37.53 | taylanub | i installed phpmyadmin and selected to configure for apache2. there is still no /var/www/phpmyadmin |
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| 12:39.38 | DelphiWorld | Hello Debianificators |
| 12:39.48 | DelphiWorld | what's the best method to boot up a tin client ? |
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| 12:40.28 | DelphiWorld | dpkg: tin |
| 12:40.28 | dpkg | i heard tin is a weird newsreader that is on crack. Available in the Debian standard distribution. |
| 12:41.37 | rdz | what happens, when a process hangs for longer than the period defined in the /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs ? will the kernel simply report it or does it kill the process? |
| 12:41.38 | nevyn | that's kinda harsh |
| 12:41.57 | taylanub | ok, i need to symlink /var/www/phpmyadmin to /usr/share/phpmyadmin ? |
| 12:42.02 | Volkswagner | do you think I need xdg-utils for power-manager to update battery staus... I'm just checking recommended packages for LXDE which were not installed with "--without-recommends" |
| 12:43.45 | thewanderer1 | rdz: it'll only report the process, or panic if hung_task_panic is enabled (allows for reboot if a watchdog is in effect) |
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| 12:44.55 | taylanub | <obligatory comment about how horrible php is> |
| 12:45.00 | stew | taylanub: you should just be able to use Alias |
| 12:45.16 | taylanub | what is Alias ? |
| 12:45.23 | stew | part of mod_alias |
| 12:45.23 | DelphiWorld | i want to set up my debian on a kvm and boot it using pxe |
| 12:45.26 | rdz | thewanderer1, thanks.. that's helpful to know |
| 12:45.50 | stew | taylanub: did you read /usr/share/doc/phpmyadmin/README.DEbian? |
| 12:46.00 | taylanub | i guess i should |
| 12:46.03 | stew | err README.Debian possibly README.Debian.gz |
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| 12:46.29 | taylanub | symlink seems to work though, and i wouldn't care much if that'd open some potential security holes or whatever ... |
| 12:46.57 | stew | phpmyadmin? php? yeah, you are opening up (potential?) security holes |
| 12:47.28 | taylanub | heh |
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| 12:48.06 | thewanderer1 | every network service is a potential security risk, deal with it :P |
| 12:48.16 | Calinou | even computers :P |
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| 12:53.42 | taylanub | ok, had to restart apache and/or mysql, of course |
| 12:53.51 | paickda | hi chan, i'm trying to format an external hdd as ext4 by using "mke2fs -j -t ext4 -T largefile /dev/sda1" but when running "fdisk -l" it displays /dev/sda1 as HPFS/NTFS... whaaa! |
| 12:54.41 | stew | paickda: that's just the partition type, which doesn't matter, but you can fix with fdisk with by using t 83 |
| 12:55.00 | stew | paickda: the partition type is just informational though, its not actually used anywhere |
| 12:55.14 | stew | paickda: "file -s /dev/sda1" should confirm the actual filesystem type |
| 12:55.21 | paickda | stew, ill give it a shot |
| 12:55.43 | paickda | stew, thanks!! |
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| 12:55.56 | paickda | and it even spits out a UUID |
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| 12:56.04 | paickda | much appreciated |
| 12:56.11 | stew | :) |
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| 12:58.50 | paickda | stew, in fstab, would /mnt/foo ext4 defaults,auto,users,rw 0 suffice ? |
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| 13:06.21 | squidly | does anyone have any documentation on how to setup /etc/network/interface to deal with mulihomed routing? |
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| 13:09.04 | phaidros | squidly: http://lartc.org/ |
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| 13:12.03 | stew | paickda: yes, but it is one column short |
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| 13:12.27 | paickda | stew, 0 0 |
| 13:12.42 | stew | right on |
| 13:12.50 | paickda | you da man! |
| 13:13.34 | stew | you are quick to arrive at the entailment |
| 13:14.12 | Volkswagner | is there a better channel to find answers on Deb6 with LXDE and power-manager issues? |
| 13:15.00 | Volkswagner | like #linux-acpi ??? ;) |
| 13:15.06 | boudiccas | Volkswagner: you could try eamiling the mailing list |
| 13:15.10 | boudiccas | *emailing |
| 13:15.24 | Volkswagner | debian mail list? |
| 13:15.34 | boudiccas | yes |
| 13:15.39 | Volkswagner | will do |
| 13:16.38 | stew | there is #debian-xfce, but it is probably very low traffic, and perhaps more geared towards developement than end-user support |
| 13:17.15 | squidly | phaidros: That link does not really help. I guess I could be more specific. I have two IP address on the save server, (same subnet even). IP1 = 192.168.3.3 on eth0 IP2=192.168.3.4 on eth0:1 I need traffic to go out via eth0:1 (I can change around the interfaces if that will help me) |
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| 13:18.04 | stew | squidly: that doesn't sound like multi-homed |
| 13:18.08 | pkkm | How to get a newer version of perl than the ancient 5.10 that is in main? |
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| 13:18.10 | stew | squidly: do you have more than one gateway? |
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| 13:18.32 | stew | pkkm: install it from source to $HOME, or wait for the next debian release |
| 13:18.39 | jelly-home | squidly: your parenthetical comment is indeed the simplest way to achieve "need traffic to go out via IP2" |
| 13:18.43 | stew | pkkm: you don't want to mess with the default perl in the $PATH |
| 13:20.28 | pkkm | stew: isn't there a safe external repository that provides a newer version? |
| 13:20.37 | pkkm | like a PPA in Ubuntu |
| 13:20.46 | stew | pkkm: no |
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| 13:20.47 | squidly | stew: Yes. Eth0 is a backup IP that needs to be avaliable all the times |
| 13:21.13 | squidly | eth0:1 is the primary public web interface. I'm trying to not have asyn routing with the box |
| 13:21.16 | stew | squidly: what are the two different gateway IPs? |
| 13:21.31 | phaidros | squidly: ip rule is your friend. in /etc/network/interfaces you can have a line under a certain interface beginning with "up" .. so the line will be fired when th if is up. e.g.: up ip rule this that there |
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| 13:21.52 | squidly | oh stew.. sorry mis-read. There is only one gateway. |
| 13:22.19 | stew | this isn't multi-homed then |
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| 13:22.51 | stew | squidly: can you show us what is in /etc/network/interfaces now? |
| 13:22.53 | squidly | ok. I've always used multi-homed to mean two IP.. |
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| 13:22.56 | squidly | stew: sure |
| 13:23.39 | squidly | http://pastebin.com/AubT13wh |
| 13:23.43 | stew | i believe it to mean, two or more completely different ways to the internet, where you have to make choices about which packets go out to which gateways |
| 13:24.17 | stew | squidly: you should only have one or the other have a gateway |
| 13:24.45 | stew | squidly: you shouldn't specify network or broadcast unless you are doing something non-standard and really know what you are doing |
| 13:25.15 | squidly | the gateway on eth0:1 was me editing the file. Sorry forgot to remove that. (It's not saved) The broadcast was setup by the debian installer |
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| 13:25.45 | stew | really? which installer? that probably warrants a bug being filed |
| 13:25.54 | stew | i mean, how recently did you install? |
| 13:26.11 | squidly | stew: about two weeks ago |
| 13:26.15 | squidly | using a CD |
| 13:26.18 | stew | with the stable installer? |
| 13:26.28 | squidly | yes. The CD installer |
| 13:26.42 | stew | that's dumb (not you, the fact that the installer is putting those there) |
| 13:26.43 | squidly | debian-6.0.4-amd64-CD-1.iso |
| 13:26.53 | squidly | agress |
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| 13:27.15 | squidly | Just have way to may systems to worry about changing it.. |
| 13:27.25 | stew | squidly: so without the redundant gateway, is the only problem that the src address is wrong? |
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| 13:27.48 | squidly | correct |
| 13:28.03 | stew | you *could* switch eth1 and eth1:0 |
| 13:28.04 | squidly | but we need both interfaces to be avaliable all the time |
| 13:28.33 | squidly | but taking down eth1 would shutdown eth1:0 as well correct? |
| 13:28.38 | stew | yes |
| 13:28.54 | stew | there are times you want to take one down and not the other? |
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| 13:29.39 | squidly | Yes. eth1:0 is the primary IP for the webhost. eth1 is the maintanence IP that always has to be avaliable.. |
| 13:29.48 | taylanub | quickest way to install Tor 2.3 on Squeeze ? |
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| 13:30.13 | bzed | taylanub: wild guess: use backports or deb.torproject.org (or somithing like that) |
| 13:30.40 | bzed | squidly: I would use vlans for that |
| 13:31.02 | squidly | bzed: given a LAN I could control.. I would do that.. |
| 13:31.21 | stew | squidly: when eth1:0 is up you want the src address to be that ip, and when it is down you want the same gateway, but with the eth1 src address? |
| 13:31.31 | squidly | stew: correct |
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| 13:32.00 | squidly | bzed: If I had control of the switches all my servers would have multiple NIC in failover. :) |
| 13:32.04 | stew | hmm |
| 13:33.12 | stew | perhsaps somehting like adding "up ip route change default via 128.46.21.1 src 128.46.21.240" and "down ip route change default via 128.46.21.1 src 128.46.21.241" on eth0:1 |
| 13:33.28 | squidly | that is what I was thinking.. |
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| 13:34.00 | squidly | and removing the gateway from the interface definations? |
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| 13:34.41 | megabraker | hi , when am using console mode i remarked that the resolution is a little bad . Is there a method to change it? |
| 13:34.41 | stew | no, you'd leave it, note that i'm specifying ip route change, not ip route add |
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| 13:34.49 | megabraker | hi , when am using console mode i remarked that the resolution is a little bad . Is there a method to change it? |
| 13:35.12 | stew | and I'm not positive that ip route change works the way I think it works |
| 13:35.25 | squidly | yea I'm going to test it now |
| 13:35.29 | boudiccas | megabraker: we heard you the first time, no need to repeat after 30 seconds! |
| 13:36.02 | megabraker | boudiccas, look for the first comment and you will understand why i did this :p |
| 13:36.10 | squidly | stew: yep that seems to work properly :) |
| 13:36.11 | boudiccas | megabraker: proby, you should know that! |
| 13:36.25 | squidly | and leave the gatway on eth1 or eth1:0 |
| 13:36.48 | stew | eth1 |
| 13:36.48 | megabraker | i know it already , you didn't understand what i did XD |
| 13:37.07 | megabraker | ! |
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| 13:38.51 | squidly | stew: thanks. :) |
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| 13:40.56 | joulez | haha |
| 13:41.00 | megabraker | !channel limit |
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| 13:50.14 | me1i55a | hey all, i have a blonde question to ask, is it possible for me to install debian from the live cd? |
| 13:50.59 | Woet | where can I find partman-auto-raid-recipe.txt? |
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| 13:51.14 | ahwan | hello |
| 13:51.17 | me1i55a | hi |
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| 13:51.50 | ahwan | i want to talk pv with an experienced web designer if he wants 2 help me |
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| 13:52.00 | Woet | ahwan: how is that relevant to debian? |
| 13:52.05 | anunakki | lool |
| 13:52.06 | anunakki | #web |
| 13:52.09 | anunakki | might be the place |
| 13:52.09 | anunakki | for that |
| 13:52.27 | me1i55a | what about me? |
| 13:52.30 | anunakki | but i have some experience in web related work, not much of a designer, photoshop and all that crap isnt for me, i just deal with code |
| 13:52.40 | me1i55a | i asked if i can install debian from its live cd |
| 13:52.43 | anunakki | feel free to msg |
| 13:53.03 | me1i55a | coz the iso has like more then 4 images 4.4gb each!? |
| 13:53.29 | rdz | hi all. i'm seeing some messages like this in the syslog: "INFO: task <someprocess>:10742 blocked for more than 120 seconds." This is followed by a 'Call Trace' of said process.. how can identify what is causing this? |
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| 13:53.36 | me1i55a | do i really need all the iso images in order to install debian? |
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| 13:53.41 | anunakki | me1i55a, pretty sure you can grab the source if you're online, i've probably only used a livecd once or twice, but it may be possible from a netinstall perspective |
| 13:53.42 | ksk | me1i55a: theres a huge number of images, you just need the first one |
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| 13:54.05 | me1i55a | oh! thats all? only the first one should do the trick? |
| 13:54.17 | me1i55a | im start from a clean empty hdd |
| 13:54.19 | colonolGron | am i correct that udisks replaces hal and pulseaudio replaces alsa? |
| 13:54.20 | stew | me1i55a: yes, the live cd should contain an installer, but I've never tried it |
| 13:54.28 | me1i55a | tryin to be brave enough and abandon windows |
| 13:54.33 | anunakki | me1i55a, http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst |
| 13:54.35 | stew | me1i55a: you can use a single cd to install provided that you can get onto a network to download packages |
| 13:54.49 | me1i55a | but will it take long? |
| 13:54.53 | stew | me1i55a: the rest of the cds/dvds are really just for delivering packages to computers which cannot download packages over a network |
| 13:55.05 | thewanderer1 | I've run `dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config` and set "root" to be the recipient of system mail. however, my mail ends up in /var/spool/mail/mail, and root's MUA can't read it by default. how to make it go to /var/spool/mail/root? or how to make "mail" work sensibly by default? |
| 13:55.11 | me1i55a | that big? its like 4.4gb per iso image you know? |
| 13:55.22 | stew | me1i55a: that really depends on the speed of your internet, your hardware, and your definition of "take long" |
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| 13:55.31 | anunakki | no its not me1i55a |
| 13:55.35 | stew | me1i55a: you can install from a < 200mb cd |
| 13:55.35 | anunakki | the netinst is like 180mb |
| 13:55.55 | anunakki | you can get even smaller images |
| 13:55.56 | anunakki | 40mb |
| 13:55.58 | me1i55a | then that on earth are those bulky 4.4gb iso files all about? |
| 13:56.00 | stew | thewanderer1: is root aliaesed in /etc/aliases ? |
| 13:56.04 | me1i55a | theres like more than 4 iso files |
| 13:56.11 | stew | me1i55a: getting packages to computers that cannot download packages from a network |
| 13:56.13 | anunakki | me1i55a, you're looking in the wrong place |
| 13:56.17 | me1i55a | am i> |
| 13:56.19 | me1i55a | ? |
| 13:56.20 | anunakki | http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst |
| 13:56.42 | me1i55a | this is where i am looking http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable |
| 13:56.52 | anunakki | http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst <- look there |
| 13:56.53 | anunakki | lol |
| 13:57.13 | ahwan | windows is all time best ....... |
| 13:57.19 | anunakki | ^ i agree |
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| 13:57.22 | thewanderer1 | stew: this is my aliases: http://paste.debian.net/178622/ -- I believe it's the default |
| 13:57.25 | anunakki | can just virtualize from windows host |
| 13:57.28 | ahwan | i never tried debian |
| 13:57.40 | me1i55a | but i guess i need to get the live cd first right? coz this other computer is blank empty |
| 13:57.43 | me1i55a | no os |
| 13:58.15 | boudiccas | me1i55a: no, you dont need the live iso, you just need dvd1/cd1 |
| 13:58.18 | stew | me1i55a: no, you don't need the live cd, just a netinst installer |
| 13:58.20 | dcco | me1i55a: the netinst image contains everything you need to boot |
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| 13:58.57 | me1i55a | ok, am tryin it now... |
| 13:58.59 | me1i55a | wish me luck |
| 13:59.12 | cads | hey guys |
| 13:59.17 | anunakki | <me1i55a> but i guess i need to get the live cd first right? coz this other computer is blank empty |
| 13:59.23 | anunakki | slap the netinst on a cd |
| 13:59.40 | anunakki | can even do it from flash drive though i never have, and install |
| 13:59.49 | anunakki | and you obviously have internet access so you'll be fine |
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| 14:00.06 | boudiccas | famous last words! |
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| 14:00.37 | squidly | stew: I had to also add an up to my eth1:0 to make it work properly! :) |
| 14:00.43 | stew | until he finds out that he needs non-free firmware to get to his internet access |
| 14:01.03 | stew | squidly: what was in it? |
| 14:01.03 | anunakki | lool |
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| 14:01.33 | squidly | up ip route change default via 128.46.21.1 src 128.46.21.240 |
| 14:01.52 | squidly | the eth1 up statement would take over.. |
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| 14:07.25 | nvictor | hello all |
| 14:07.33 | nvictor | anyone has experience with qmail? |
| 14:08.15 | jelly-home | !ask |
| 14:08.15 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 14:08.31 | nvictor | i am having issue sending email with Django. but on command line mail works fine, i am trying to figure out the settings |
| 14:08.43 | nvictor | among the processes qmail is listed |
| 14:08.51 | nvictor | jelly-home: thanks, it was coming... |
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| 14:08.57 | squidly | nvictor: read this then ask again please. http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 14:09.56 | jelly-home | nvictor: well. If sending via /usr/bin/mail works, it means your application is doing something unusual. |
| 14:10.13 | nvictor | jelly-home: that's what i figured :/ |
| 14:10.40 | jelly-home | nvictor: which debian release are you using? Check whether qmail-send logs are present in /var/log/mail.log |
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| 14:10.50 | nvictor | ok checking |
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| 14:10.56 | nvictor | it's not debian :) |
| 14:11.07 | jelly-home | use the right channel, then |
| 14:11.13 | squidly | nvictor: wow.. |
| 14:11.20 | squidly | just wow.. |
| 14:11.20 | jelly-home | #qmail or ##linux |
| 14:11.23 | nvictor | sorry but i find this channel very helpful in the past |
| 14:11.37 | squidly | headdesks. |
| 14:11.38 | jelly-home | nvictor: yes, very helpful with Debian issues |
| 14:11.45 | nvictor | oh come on guys, give me a break :) |
| 14:11.49 | squidly | what arm? |
| 14:11.53 | nvictor | you will be surprised |
| 14:11.57 | squidly | or do you prefer your leg? |
| 14:12.12 | jelly-home | squidly: keep it clean. |
| 14:12.13 | nvictor | i never come here for a debian specific question. but linux in general :) |
| 14:12.36 | nvictor | maybe the nice people aren't online today? :D |
| 14:12.54 | squidly | jelly-home: he did ask for a break. ;) (sorry I was being scarastic) |
| 14:13.09 | jelly-home | nvictor: you'll want ##linux for general linux issues. If, however, you can reproduce the problem in Debian, feel free to ask here |
| 14:13.15 | kesroesweyth | nvictor no one is being mean. you aren't using debian, yet you're asking for help in #debian. |
| 14:13.20 | squidly | nvictor: Please read that link I gave you.. |
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| 14:15.48 | nvictor | kesroesweyth: hi :) |
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| 14:16.03 | kesroesweyth | nvictor 'ello |
| 14:16.43 | nvictor | i may be wrong jelly-home, but qmail-send is not a recognized command |
| 14:17.03 | nvictor | even though bunch of qmail processes show up when i do ps aux |
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| 14:17.26 | cads | hey guys, I need to find libwxgtk2.9-dev, but can't find it in either experimental, unstable, or testing |
| 14:17.39 | cads | otoh, it exists in the ubuntu repos |
| 14:17.51 | jhutchins_lt | nvictor: This is why it's stupid to be asking for help here. What works in Debian may not work in your distribution, and may actively cause harm. |
| 14:17.54 | squidly | cads: name difference perhaps? |
| 14:18.12 | cads | squidly, debian has it up to libwxgtk2.8-dev |
| 14:18.23 | squidly | add /ignore nvictor |
| 14:18.56 | squidly | cads: ahh ok version then. I've found that Ubuntu is more bleading edge then Debain.. |
| 14:19.01 | nvictor | wonders what day is today |
| 14:19.25 | stew | cads: it appears that only 2.8 is in debian currently |
| 14:19.36 | cads | should I try to locate the library and build it manually? |
| 14:19.41 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions libwxgtk2 |
| 14:19.43 | judd | No package named 'libwxgtk2' was found in i386. |
| 14:20.00 | cads | or can I cheat and grab the ubuntu version ;) |
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| 14:20.16 | cads | (worried it might have other space age dependencies, heh) |
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| 14:20.31 | stew | cads: you can try rebuilding the ubuntu source pacakge in debian |
| 14:20.52 | jhutchins_lt | cads: That's a known method of working towards a clean reinstall (mixing distros). Stew's idea is better. |
| 14:21.19 | cads | hmm, noted |
| 14:21.22 | cads | I'll try that out |
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| 14:21.38 | squidly | cads: also expect to hit version issues.. |
| 14:22.02 | squidly | Debian and Ubuntu are quite different when it comes to dependencies |
| 14:22.33 | stew | build dependencies are generally much more lax than binary depenedencies though |
| 14:22.34 | cads | before I go on that path, I'll see if I can install a different version of the library requiring 2.9 |
| 14:22.42 | cads | oh |
| 14:23.03 | cads | stew, then I might give it a quick try first |
| 14:23.14 | stew | cads: what library? can the library just be rebuilt against the 2.8 -dev pacakge? |
| 14:23.45 | cads | stew, it's a haskell wxconfig wrapper |
| 14:24.06 | cads | deployed with haskell's cabal |
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| 14:26.36 | berzerka | cads: fyi: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=613431 |
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| 14:27.22 | thewanderer1 | okay, so any ideas why messages to root end up in /var/spool/mail/mail instead of root's mailbox (wherever that is)? |
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| 14:27.49 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: which mta? |
| 14:27.59 | thewanderer1 | exim4 |
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| 14:28.25 | jelly-home | ownership and permissions of said mailbox? |
| 14:28.27 | thewanderer1 | I have no bloody idea about configuring it, I only want local mail delivery to work :P |
| 14:28.50 | thewanderer1 | /var/spool/mail/mail is 0600 mail |
| 14:28.55 | jhutchins_lt | thewanderer1: should be /var/spool/mail/root |
| 14:29.10 | thewanderer1 | hmm ok, now I only need to know why it goes to "mail" and not root |
| 14:29.13 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: does it work as expected for normal users? |
| 14:29.19 | jhutchins_lt | thewanderer1: What client are you trying to use? |
| 14:29.29 | jelly-home | why does the client matter |
| 14:29.35 | berzerka | cads: i expect you need libwxwidgets-2.9 for a non-debian package you build yourself? in that case i would simply build it myself in a local directory and wait for 3.0 to come out or 2.9 to get into experimental. |
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| 14:29.47 | jhutchins_lt | jelly-home: Because some need to be configured to point at the mail spool. |
| 14:30.04 | jelly-home | jhutchins_lt: this isn't 1990. |
| 14:30.26 | thewanderer1 | jelly-home: it works when I mail from root to www-data |
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| 14:31.00 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: it's possible mail for root is specialcased for security reasons |
| 14:31.24 | thewanderer1 | jhutchins_lt: `mail` is the client I'm trying to use - apparently, link to bsd-mailx |
| 14:31.28 | jelly-home | I haven't used exim in a while. |
| 14:31.50 | petemc | thewanderer1: exim -d -bt root |
| 14:32.26 | thewanderer1 | petemc: I see a wall of text, what am I looking for? or should I just paste the whole thing? |
| 14:32.44 | petemc | read it |
| 14:32.49 | thewanderer1 | oh, I see this... root@rkaw.pl -> /var/mail/mail |
| 14:33.02 | thewanderer1 | now, how do I find out how it got there? |
| 14:33.10 | petemc | read further up |
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| 14:34.12 | thewanderer1 | aha... "Exim4 cannot deliver as root" |
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| 14:34.22 | jelly-home | \o/ |
| 14:34.27 | vldcnst | Is there a way to force a command after a user logs in with SSH? /etc/sshrc doesn't get executed if ~/.ssh/rc exists. |
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| 14:34.53 | thewanderer1 | so I establish a symlink and I should be OK, I guess |
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| 14:36.17 | berzerka | vldcnst: see man sshd_config, ForceCommand |
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| 14:41.04 | thewanderer1 | anyone on Squeeze able to confirm that "mail root", sending a message, and then running "mail" as root can retrieve the message? |
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| 14:41.09 | thewanderer1 | (or deny?) |
| 14:41.17 | vldcnst | berzerka: as per the manual, this will override any commands supplied by the user. I don't want this, I want the user to log (with all the stuff involved) and additionally, run a command |
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| 14:42.58 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: do I have to install exim for that? |
| 14:43.08 | zax | Hi i am useing screen for a task thats going to take a few days to complete via ssh if i diconnect from ssh will the task continue running untill its complete? |
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| 14:43.34 | berzerka | vldcnst: the manual tells you "The command originally supplied by the client is available in the SSH_ORIGINAL_COMMAND environment variable", so i guess you can do something e.g.l ike ForceCommand="log_something ; $SSH_ORIGINAL_COMMAND". never done that though. if it's not possible that way, i have no idea, at least from the docs. |
| 14:43.40 | thewanderer1 | jelly-home: exim4-daemon-light... I recall it comes installed by default |
| 14:43.49 | jhutchins_lt | zax: Yes. |
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| 14:47.21 | surf | hi guys how do I mount an iso with rwx permissions? it always says me " seems to be mounted read only" also with -o loop,exec command |
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| 14:48.01 | dvs | surf: I don't think you can. |
| 14:48.18 | surf | dvs, why not? |
| 14:48.43 | dvs | surf: iso is a read-only file system. |
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| 14:48.47 | thewanderer1 | surf: ISO is a read-only FS - if you want to modify it, then you need to re-build the whole fs from scratch (copy files, use growisofs) |
| 14:49.00 | surf | ok got it thx |
| 14:49.59 | jhutchins_lt | surf: There's a problem called isomaster that makes it convenient to modify them. |
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| 14:50.13 | jhutchins_lt | Lets you extract files, modify, add them back, then remaster. |
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| 14:50.22 | adam___ | does anyone have any experience with using multiarch? |
| 14:51.02 | adam___ | I am trying to run a x86 binary on SPARC |
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| 14:51.42 | sney | adam___: that's not how it works. sparc cpus can't run x86 binaries without some kind of emulation |
| 14:51.58 | jelly-home | adam___: that's not going to fly without qemu and binary-fmt setup |
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| 14:52.14 | adam___ | so what does multi arch help with? |
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| 14:52.34 | sney | amd64 and i386 on the same system, mostly. |
| 14:52.35 | jelly-home | adam___: architectures your hardware can deal with |
| 14:53.33 | adam___ | on the howto page it seem like they add arm support to dpkg |
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| 14:53.51 | adam___ | which I assume is not the base architecture |
| 14:54.18 | zax | jhuchins_It: thanks how will I know when its finished |
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| 14:58.14 | nkuttler | mmmh. the screen upgrade is nice |
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| 14:59.09 | proby | hi , i had messed up with the grub screen resolution everything works fine , but i can't get a tty working :( |
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| 15:00.34 | bathman | ok: i'm trying to install linux headers by apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
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| 15:01.16 | bathman | for a debian 4 (i think) etchnhalf, but it won't find those headers |
| 15:01.27 | bathman | any suggestions? |
| 15:01.34 | jhutchins_lt | zax: Have it notify you, have it run a bell or play an mp3 or send an email, or just keep dropping by and checking ps |
| 15:02.01 | tonytraductor | or watch with htop or similar proc monitoring tool |
| 15:02.30 | nkuttler | !tell bathman about archive |
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| 15:03.15 | nkuttler | bathman: oh right, it was kernel-headers back then |
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| 15:04.32 | bathman | nkuttler : so if i just change linux into kernel, that's fine? |
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| 15:06.52 | boudiccas | bathman: you might need to change the sources.list if you get 404'd |
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| 15:11.36 | bathman | boudiccas : and do i just add the etch entries or do special "etchnhalf" ones exist? |
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| 15:12.09 | boudiccas | bathman: i was thinking that they'd be in the archive so that should be reflected in your sources.list |
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| 15:13.55 | stew | i wouldn't be surprised if etchnhalf wasn't archived |
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| 15:34.17 | jelly-home | they accidentally the point release/backports? |
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| 15:37.18 | sney | jelly-home: ? |
| 15:38.13 | jelly-home | runs away |
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| 15:39.12 | MachinaeWolf | Anybody know how to fix holding down keys not working? For example if I hold down the backspace key it only backspaces one, if I hold down it doesn't keep scrolling only acts if I pressed it once? |
| 15:39.22 | MachinaeWolf | Worked fine up until an update lately |
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| 15:39.53 | ratatata | nu |
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| 15:48.28 | jasonmc | what's needed to play enemy territory on amd64? i simply have an error of no 32bit x11 lib but i don't see where that is installed from |
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| 15:50.52 | Calinou | jasonmc, wolfET on linux is a PITA, just don't play it |
| 15:50.59 | Calinou | > punkbuster being a b*tch as usual |
| 15:51.04 | Konomi | why has 302.x of the nvidia driver been pushed to testing but the dkms has been left at 295.59-1 causing nvidia-settings to not work at all? |
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| 15:51.28 | Calinou | MachinaeWolf, check your keyboard settings? |
| 15:51.45 | Calinou | in your DE's control panel |
| 15:52.09 | MachinaeWolf | I didn't mess with anything in the openbox settings... |
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| 15:54.34 | metaphysician | MachinaeWolf: check the keyboard settings |
| 15:55.00 | MachinaeWolf | And those would be where? |
| 15:56.25 | metaphysician | MachinaeWolf: for Xfce it is `xfce4-keyboard-settings` command |
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| 15:56.51 | MachinaeWolf | hmm I might have that, there's some xfce programs on here |
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| 15:57.20 | MachinaeWolf | not that one though... |
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| 15:59.22 | iPod-nano | Hey, I'm a little confused. Hope somebody can point me in the right direction. My Debian box has been running Asterisk for a long time now, but I want to use either FreeSWITCH or YATE as a Google Voice gateway. Trying to change their SIP ports (because Asterisk runs on the default 5060) has proven problematic. If I stop Asterisk and run either on port 5060, all works fine, but if I set them to bind to any other port, it's a no go |
| 15:59.23 | iPod-nano | . Out of curiosity, I set Asterisk to bind to a different port and got the same result, nothing. The logs of all these applications don't even show a client trying to connect (and yes, I set my phone adapter to the new port) so I think this is a problem somewhere else, and not Asterisk/FreeSWITCH/Yate's fault. Can anyone help me? |
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| 16:07.58 | iPod-nano | Anyone? |
| 16:08.11 | superstraw | when cups prints to an xp computer, what username does it use to connect? |
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| 16:08.55 | SumYunGai | wish i kud help |
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| 16:10.14 | superstraw | iPod-nano: why not ask in #asterisk? |
| 16:11.04 | iPod-nano | superstraw, because it's not just Asterisk that has the issue. I think it could blocked port or something else. |
| 16:11.19 | iPod-nano | *could be a |
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| 16:14.12 | teratorn | superstraw: probably "Guest" |
| 16:14.26 | teratorn | unless you are specifying a username |
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| 16:17.51 | MachinaeWolf | Hmm I get this error when not getting sound on some games: Cannot open shared library libasound_module_conf_pulse.so |
| 16:18.17 | Diopter | MachinaeWolf: So install the package that has it! |
| 16:18.31 | Diopter | libasound2-plugins |
| 16:18.42 | Diopter | (learn to use apt-file for great win) |
| 16:18.47 | MachinaeWolf | well libasound2 is installed... |
| 16:18.57 | Diopter | Plugins |
| 16:19.06 | MachinaeWolf | $ dpkg --get-selections|grep libasound |
| 16:19.06 | MachinaeWolf | libasound2:amd64install |
| 16:19.06 | MachinaeWolf | libasound2-plugins:amd64install |
| 16:19.17 | MachinaeWolf | that is too... |
| 16:19.21 | Diopter | Exciting. I'm on testing, are you on stable? |
| 16:19.30 | MachinaeWolf | nope I'm on wheezy too |
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| 16:19.46 | Diopter | Welp, http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/amd64/libasound2-plugins/filelist <- it's in there |
| 16:19.58 | MachinaeWolf | hmm maybe I should just reinstall it? |
| 16:20.00 | Diopter | So perhaps these games are... 32 bit? |
| 16:20.09 | MachinaeWolf | nah it's in my repos |
| 16:20.13 | Diopter | Maybe install ia32-libs? |
| 16:20.15 | MachinaeWolf | and I'm running 64bit distro too |
| 16:20.20 | MachinaeWolf | that's installed too.... |
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| 16:20.24 | Diopter | mm |
| 16:20.39 | Diopter | MachinaeWolf: You can 'ldd' the game binary, see what the linker daemon thinks the libraries are |
| 16:20.45 | MachinaeWolf | k |
| 16:20.47 | Diopter | MachinaeWolf: See if it's maybe hardcoded to a different library path |
| 16:20.54 | MachinaeWolf | alright |
| 16:20.55 | Diopter | In which case you could ln -s the .so appropriately |
| 16:21.34 | MachinaeWolf | ~$ ldd zsnes |
| 16:21.34 | MachinaeWolf | ldd: ./zsnes: No such file or directory |
| 16:21.38 | MachinaeWolf | ^ ?_? |
| 16:21.43 | Diopter | MachinaeWolf: ldd $(which zsnes) |
| 16:21.44 | MachinaeWolf | I installed it through apt |
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| 16:21.50 | Diopter | MachinaeWolf: It's probably in /usr/bin |
| 16:22.03 | MachinaeWolf | oh find it exactly alright |
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| 16:22.53 | SumYunGai | whats a good block size |
| 16:22.56 | SumYunGai | for dd |
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| 16:23.13 | MachinaeWolf | hmm doesn't list any not found stuff Diopter |
| 16:23.19 | MachinaeWolf | weird |
| 16:23.31 | Diopter | Interesting. |
| 16:23.43 | Diopter | Looks like zsnes is 32 bit. |
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| 16:23.50 | Diopter | And includes lib32asound2 |
| 16:24.19 | MachinaeWolf | hmm well I had a compiled snes9x or whatever it's called but that emulator crashes itself |
| 16:24.22 | Diopter | So maybe lib32asound2 doesn't have the right plugin.. |
| 16:24.26 | MachinaeWolf | idk |
| 16:24.40 | superstraw | teratorn: ty, i'm troubleshooting software that is almost 30 years old, can't print to a network printer... windows prints fine but I can't get the legacy software to print to it... pita |
| 16:24.42 | MachinaeWolf | I'll try reinstalling those things and see if that helps? |
| 16:25.35 | teratorn | superstraw: wireshark cuts through smb/cifs traffic like a hot knife through butter :) |
| 16:25.55 | MachinaeWolf | hmm says they're the latest version and won't reinstall |
| 16:25.56 | teratorn | superstraw: otherwise, turn as much logging on as you can |
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| 16:26.11 | Diopter | MachinaeWolf: Trying it myself. |
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| 16:28.50 | Diopter | MachinaeWolf: Looks like zsnes links to the 32bit libasound2.so |
| 16:29.05 | MachinaeWolf | hmm |
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| 16:29.16 | Diopter | MachinaeWolf: Which doesn't seem to come with the plugins |
| 16:29.28 | MachinaeWolf | Is there a way to fix the sound issue? |
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| 16:29.40 | MachinaeWolf | Sound works on other stuff, just not some games and such |
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| 16:30.26 | MachinaeWolf | MOCP playing: Avantasia - In Quest For - The Metal Opera Pt. II - 00:31/03:59 |
| 16:30.28 | MachinaeWolf | see |
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| 16:32.16 | pmo_ | hello |
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| 16:39.58 | superstraw | teratorn: Ah, forgot about wireshark... yes I should take a look and see whats going on :D thanks |
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| 16:49.27 | pmo_ | can you run one jackd server to handle all client sound / and or use alsa / jack / pulseaudio ? |
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| 16:51.38 | jhutchins_lt | pmo_: I dunno, can I? |
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| 16:57.08 | SumYunGai | hi gaise |
| 16:57.11 | SumYunGai | plz help |
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| 16:57.25 | SumYunGai | ok so i am making a dd clone of my debian partition |
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| 16:57.47 | SumYunGai | so i have a backup incase i mess my system |
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| 16:58.06 | SumYunGai | both are on the same HD |
| 16:58.19 | SumYunGai | do u see any probs with that? |
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| 16:58.56 | thewanderer1 | SumYunGai: why not a tar backup? |
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| 16:59.35 | boudiccas | SumYunGai: why not use rsync and geta perfect working copy? |
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| 17:00.45 | SumYunGai | well for now jus tell me if u done a clone w dd |
| 17:00.52 | SumYunGai | and if u gaize see a prob w that |
| 17:00.58 | boudiccas | !u |
| 17:00.58 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 17:01.11 | stew | SumYunGai: can you stick to english in here please? |
| 17:01.33 | SumYunGai | im planning on just running grub update and having two OSes |
| 17:01.36 | stew | SumYunGai: are you trying to clone a filesystem which is mounted? |
| 17:01.42 | SumYunGai | yes |
| 17:02.00 | thewanderer1 | bad idea... data loss will follow |
| 17:02.08 | thewanderer1 | also, there will be an UUID conflict |
| 17:02.20 | SumYunGai | oh |
| 17:02.24 | SumYunGai | crap |
| 17:02.36 | thewanderer1 | just create a new fs and copy the files to there with cp -a |
| 17:02.41 | SumYunGai | how do i do this then |
| 17:02.48 | stew | is it on LVM? |
| 17:02.53 | SumYunGai | no |
| 17:03.00 | SumYunGai | im in debian like usual |
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| 17:03.15 | SumYunGai | then in gparted a made a new partition same size right next to it |
| 17:03.20 | SumYunGai | then i did dd |
| 17:03.32 | SumYunGai | clone the debian im on now |
| 17:03.54 | SumYunGai | then was planing on just runing grub update so it finds the other cloned debian and thats it |
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| 17:05.03 | thewanderer1 | you should really create a new filesystem (mkfs) and copy the files over... update-grub should find the kernels, anyway |
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| 17:05.31 | SumYunGai | crap i dun kno how to do that |
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| 17:07.12 | tawtaw | where does udev log its output? i am trying to troubleshoot why my udev rules dont work : / |
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| 17:09.44 | stew | tawtaw: i don't think it does. you can try "udevadm --verbose --debug trigger" |
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| 17:09.56 | SumYunGai | ur screwd |
| 17:10.08 | SumYunGai | gaize ok HELP!@ |
| 17:10.18 | SumYunGai | how do i make a backup of my OS |
| 17:10.22 | SumYunGai | incase something hapens |
| 17:10.45 | Diopter | D: |
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| 17:11.29 | SumYunGai | im srs |
| 17:12.04 | boudiccas | SumYunGai: if you spoke in english then maybe we woiuld be able to understand you! |
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| 17:12.28 | Diopter | Words are hard. |
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| 17:12.52 | SumYunGai | i m am spaekin englich |
| 17:13.00 | SumYunGai | gah |
| 17:13.03 | n-iCe | what? |
| 17:13.45 | Diopter | D: lol |
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| 17:39.40 | kajo | i have a file with a very strange name in /lib/ : "/lib/klibc-zwaqV1ZlhQoBCjGimVZufRwsjdg.so". anyone who can confirm if this files comes from debian ? i'm using debian wheezy and something weird is going on on my pc.. |
| 17:40.17 | Calinou | what weird thing? |
| 17:40.23 | Calinou | does that file do anything particular, are you sure? |
| 17:40.38 | kajo | that file*name* |
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| 17:40.47 | Calinou | yes, I know |
| 17:40.51 | Calinou | does the name do anything special? no |
| 17:41.01 | kajo | Calinou: can you verify if you have that file on your debian ? |
| 17:41.06 | kajo | -_- |
| 17:41.09 | Diopter | kajo: Just use apt-file to check |
| 17:41.25 | Diopter | Also, I have one myself |
| 17:41.46 | Diopter | pf klibc-zwaqV1ZlhQoBCjGimVZufRwsjdg.so |
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| 17:41.47 | Diopter | libklibc: /lib/klibc-zwaqV1ZlhQoBCjGimVZufRwsjdg.so |
| 17:41.57 | Diopter | (pf is my apt-file search alias) |
| 17:42.16 | Calinou | you're not alone, see |
| 17:42.54 | kajo | Diopter: thanks Diopter! |
| 17:42.55 | Diopter | kajo: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/amd64/libklibc/filelist |
| 17:43.06 | Diopter | Looks legit. |
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| 17:43.18 | Diopter | No idea why it's all crazy rootkit-looking :P |
| 17:43.37 | kajo | yes. (strange thing: i googled it and found nothing ) |
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| 17:43.49 | Psychonaut | Hi, is there any way to refresh the groupassignments without a restart ? |
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| 17:44.05 | Psychonaut | so that the users get the rights without a new login or processstart |
| 17:44.58 | kajo | another weird thing: ---> http://paste.debian.net/178598/ <---- *why* line 188 is repeated at line 177 ? o.O |
| 17:45.41 | Diopter | Because you rebooted 37 minutes later? |
| 17:45.46 | kajo | that is "last | less" |
| 17:46.01 | Calinou | Psychonaut, not sure |
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| 17:46.14 | Diopter | Psychonaut: You can run "newgrp <group>" |
| 17:46.19 | Diopter | Psychonaut: To log into it temporarily |
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| 17:46.36 | Diopter | Psychonaut: Confirm with "id" or "groups" after the "newgrp" |
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| 17:47.45 | kajo | Diopter: yes. I didnt reboot , in fact only the first one (line 188) is legit. the second one (177) is not ok. Indeed the second reboot was not possible because the first (line 188) lead to a runtime of over 1 day. |
| 17:48.11 | kajo | that's the problem. |
| 17:48.24 | Diopter | Fun |
| 17:48.34 | Diopter | So duplicated wtmp entries maybe? |
| 17:48.51 | kajo | yes. does it mean rootkit ? |
| 17:49.17 | Diopter | I doubt it. But -shrug-, you could certainly run some tools to try to check |
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| 17:49.24 | kajo | chkrootkit, maybe. but .. |
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| 17:49.46 | kajo | ... i have a rootkit installed , how can i cleanly install chkrootkit ? XD |
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| 17:50.15 | Calinou | why is a rootkit in packages.debian.org? |
| 17:50.23 | Diopter | Calinou: No one suggested that. |
| 17:51.17 | Diopter | kajo: If you're concerned about something like that, you can boot a livecd and run a rk check from there. |
| 17:51.27 | kajo | s/... i have/... if i have |
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| 17:52.56 | Konomi | is there like a secure boot anonymous group where you can discuss your fears of secure boot ._. |
| 17:52.57 | kajo | Diopter: rk says: "Checking `chkutmp'... " "The tty of the following user process(es) were not found" "/usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp :0 -auth /tmp/" ... |
| 17:53.01 | Konomi | cause it's bothering the hell out of me |
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| 17:53.43 | kajo | Konomi: secure boot? what do you mean with that? disk encryption? |
| 17:54.17 | Konomi | no the encrypted only boot OSes with signed keys bios |
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| 17:54.35 | Konomi | aka UEFI secure boot |
| 17:54.43 | kajo | Diopter: is it possible that chkrootkit says that because that X session is still running? |
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| 17:55.03 | Diopter | kajo: Could be. |
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| 17:57.33 | kajo | Diopter: i use bumblebee (optirun) to be able to use nvidia optimus card. when i use "optirun $a_program" $a_program can use the card and the window make use of virtual display number ":8". the intel integrated card is used for everything else (like window manager etc) on the normal display ":0" . |
| 17:57.54 | kajo | boh maybe that's the reason of that warning line |
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| 17:58.14 | Diopter | kajo: Quite possibly. |
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| 17:58.23 | Diopter | kajo: Probably runs the secondary X server from /tmp or such |
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| 17:59.44 | kajo | ok, thanks. i was scared, now i'm relaxed. :) |
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| 18:01.24 | kajo | oh , i almost forgot the weirdest thing ever: I *dont* have a bluetooth device but suddently (at random times) the bluetooth module gets loaded by the kernel . :7 |
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| 18:01.45 | dvs | kajo: Uh oh. Close neighbours? |
| 18:02.18 | kajo | dvs: neighbours? what do you mean? |
| 18:02.44 | dvs | kajo: Other people close by that can connect with Bluetooth? |
| 18:03.43 | kajo | dvs: connect, to *what* ? i dont have a bluetooth device on this pc. That's the problem: the module gets loaded with no reason at all! |
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| 18:04.06 | dvs | kajo: Oh! Now I get you. Now that's weird! |
| 18:04.14 | kajo | lol |
| 18:04.18 | kajo | yes it is |
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| 18:06.56 | kajo | where is the file i can edit to specify the parameter of a module load? |
| 18:07.18 | dvs | kajo: Actually, is this a laptop? |
| 18:07.24 | kajo | dvs: yes |
| 18:07.25 | Diopter | kajo: Anything in /etc/modprobe.d/, add an options line |
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| 18:07.37 | dvs | kajo: Ah, you could have Bluetooth then. |
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| 18:07.57 | kajo | for example if module x is loaded at boot time how can i change the default parameters passed to the module? |
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| 18:08.13 | kajo | dvs: no, i havent one. |
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| 18:09.32 | mhr | I have a debian guest running in kvm with LXDE, and as soon as I try to open a window the CPU shoots to 100% and the system hangs with the screen flickering. Does anyone know how to work around this issue? |
| 18:09.37 | kajo | dvs: is it enough to use "hciconfig -a" to be sure that i dont have it ? |
| 18:09.43 | mhr | I think the issue is somewhere in X.. |
| 18:09.55 | kajo | (with module loaded, of course) |
| 18:10.07 | dvs | kajo: I'd try "lspci -nn" |
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| 18:11.41 | thewanderer1 | mhr: known problem... try another graphics driver, or best - connect with XDMCP instead of VNC / local SDL |
| 18:12.02 | thewanderer1 | also, GNOME doesn't have that issue, I think O.o |
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| 18:14.31 | mhr | thewanderer1: Yeah, I've seen some bug reports but couldn't really find a workaround. Using -vga vmware in QEMU should make it work? |
| 18:14.57 | thewanderer1 | mhr: not sure... I always fall back to XDMCP (Xephyr or X) |
| 18:15.04 | kajo | dvs: lspci -nn gives nothing strange. Only strange thing is "Communication controller .... HECI Controller" but it's not the bluetooth. It's only the Intel-Asus bios backdoor. So it's definitive: i dont have a bluetooth device. |
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| 18:17.22 | mhr | thewanderer1: Using '-vga std' seems to work fine, thanks. |
| 18:19.08 | thewanderer1 | kajo: Bluetooth is often USB - check that, too |
| 18:20.01 | kajo | If i use "modinfo $module" i get the module information and parameters. Let say one parameter is "led= 0) off 1) on -1) automatic" . so to load that module and turn the led on i use "modprobe $module led=1" . |
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| 18:20.44 | dvs | makes sense to me |
| 18:21.02 | kajo | Now i need to know where can i config a module to be loaded at boot time with a parameters set i want. how can i do? i cant find any config files in /lib/modules/kernel_version/ |
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| 18:22.23 | stew | kajo: list modules in /etc/modules, configure their options in /etc/modprobe.d ( man 5 modules; man 5 modprobe.d ) |
| 18:22.40 | stew | that second one might be "man 5 modprobe.conf" on stable |
| 18:23.00 | kajo | thewanderer1: lsusb gives 2 "linux foundation root hub" and 2 "Intel hubs" |
| 18:23.14 | Gargantua | http://tldp.org/LDP/www.debian.org/doc/manuals/network-administrator/ |
| 18:23.23 | Gargantua | I'm looking for the non-obselete version of this. |
| 18:23.25 | thewanderer1 | kajo: not bluetooth :P |
| 18:23.38 | Gargantua | Tarballed textfile, please. |
| 18:24.07 | lupine_85 | hmm, I'm getting X server segfaults in wheezy, running the radeon driver on an ATi Radeon 3600HD |
| 18:25.29 | lupine_85 | looks like https://gist.github.com/3092171 |
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| 18:27.01 | jordanm | lupine_85: pastebin the /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 18:27.08 | jhutchins_lt | satellite requires all connecting servers to register and have a subscription to RHN, but they don't have to connect to RHN (right?). |
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| 18:28.17 | lupine_85 | the full thing is now at https://gist.github.com/3092171 |
| 18:28.27 | kajo | thewanderer1: right. so i think it's caused by asus_laptop module. it has a parameter about bluetooth and it's set to "dont do nothing" by default. So i want to change that parameter to "disable". Strange thing is: if asus_laptop is configured for "don't do nothing" what could be the "trigger" that make the kernel load the bluetooth module after almost 8 hours of uptime ?!? boh!? |
| 18:29.19 | thewanderer1 | kajo: hmm, daemons might sometimes request loading modules - especially networkmanager or similar GUI-driven apps |
| 18:30.03 | jordanm | lupine_85: file a bug report |
| 18:30.05 | kajo | thewanderer1: but i dont use network manager (no gnome,no kde) i only use openbox via startx. |
| 18:30.13 | thewanderer1 | no idea, then |
| 18:30.14 | lupine_85 | sounds like a good idea :) |
| 18:30.26 | Gargantua | Anyone? |
| 18:30.29 | jordanm | ,versions xorg |
| 18:30.30 | judd | Package: xorg on i386 -- lenny: 1:7.3+20; squeeze: 1:7.5+8+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 1:7.5+8+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 1:7.6+8~bpo60+1; sid: 1:7.7+1; wheezy: 1:7.7+1 |
| 18:30.33 | kajo | usually i use ifconfig |
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| 18:34.15 | kajo | stew: thanks for the advice. how can i see the parameter used *now* by a loaded module? for example: asus_laptop is loaded. how can i know if it uses default parameters set? does the fact that that module has no config file in modprobe.d directory tells me that he use a default set of parameters ? |
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| 18:35.03 | stew | no, you can't make such an assumption, look in /sys/module/$modulename/parameters |
| 18:36.06 | kajo | :O i didnt know that. thanks stew, it works!! |
| 18:36.14 | kajo | cool!! |
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| 18:39.35 | lupine_85 | lulz, reportbug does a double free |
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| 18:40.41 | stew | kajo: if you goal is just to keep the bluetooth module from loading, you can blacklist it |
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| 18:41.36 | kajo | stew: blacklist doesnt work. i added "blacklist bluetooth" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf" and it still load when it wants. |
| 18:41.59 | DOUGHTY | Hi, who know how arno-iptables-firewall work with ipv6?? |
| 18:42.02 | kajo | but i think that the asus_laptop module config is the right way :) |
| 18:42.44 | kajo | stew: indeed i see just now that bluetooth_status was set to 1 (1= *on* ) |
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| 18:46.09 | kajo | stew: i simply added "asus_laptop" to /etc/modules and then i created asus_laptop.conf in /etc/modprobe.d/ with this line: "options asus_laptop als_status=0 bluetooth_status=0 wapf=1 wimax_status=-1 wlan_status=1 wwan_status=-1" is that right? or do i need an "alias" line first ? (i see that other .conf files has alias in the first line) |
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| 18:47.29 | dvs | kajo: No, that should work |
| 18:47.34 | kajo | do i need to run "depmod -a" after that ? |
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| 18:47.59 | n-iCe | hi |
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| 18:48.28 | dvs | kajo: I'm not sure (I think that depends if you are adding or removing modules) |
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| 18:50.59 | kajo | good! i did "modprobe -r asus_laptop" and then "modprobe asus_laptop" , then i checked the parameters and now it is ok! I love it when a plan comes together :D |
| 18:51.16 | dvs | Hannibal|! |
| 18:51.24 | kajo | XD |
| 18:51.35 | kajo | no, baracus :) |
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| 18:51.55 | dvs | !pity kajo |
| 18:51.55 | dpkg | I pity da fool kajo! |
| 18:52.18 | kajo | sorry i cant translate this o.O |
| 18:52.40 | dvs | Hey, you mentioned B.A., there he is. |
| 18:53.14 | kajo | oh, maybe the italian version of the telefilm is a bit different :) |
| 18:53.30 | kajo | 555-3792 |
| 18:53.45 | superstraw | 867-5309 |
| 18:54.05 | kajo | (and i still remember that number after more than 15 years!!!!) |
| 18:54.10 | dvs | "I sympathise with the fool who wears my shirt" |
| 18:54.23 | kajo | murdock? |
| 18:55.01 | dvs | Mr. T. commercial for Old Navy. |
| 18:55.58 | kajo | lol, i recently seen him on ytube on a spot of pots and cooking tools, and then in a spot of a snack xD |
| 18:56.11 | kajo | *'ve recently |
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| 18:57.43 | kajo | i think i'll put that a-team phrase in my quit/leave message of the client :) |
| 18:58.06 | schreiberstein | is anyone of you using debian and zfs? |
| 18:58.10 | Calinou | lolZFS |
| 18:58.16 | Calinou | nevermind, I thought I was in -offtopic. |
| 18:59.38 | kajo | isnt it the one used by frebsd? does debian kfreebase use it (zfs) as default fs? |
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| 19:00.06 | cardamon | ...sorry |
| 19:00.13 | schreiberstein | yeah, but there is a native linux "driver". |
| 19:00.13 | Calinou | freeBSD uses zfs by default, yes |
| 19:00.26 | schreiberstein | yeah.. since version 9 or so |
| 19:01.11 | peterS | The "default" for Debian really means the default for debian-installer, I assume. And AFAIK that still defaults to ufs on FreeBSD. |
| 19:01.22 | wiiguy | cant debian play video's ? |
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| 19:01.42 | schreiberstein | wiiguy: of course it can |
| 19:01.55 | wiiguy | also 720p and 1080p over samba ? |
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| 19:02.15 | Calinou | it can: VLC |
| 19:02.28 | Calinou | default on debian is ext4, amirite? |
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| 19:02.47 | schreiberstein | wiiguy: when your network is fast enough (gigabit lag) + the hard disk has good transfer rates -> yes |
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| 19:02.58 | peterS | Calinou: for Linux kernels? I ... think the default is still ext3, but I could be wrong. |
| 19:03.09 | Calinou | ubuntu uses ext4 since 9.04 iirc |
| 19:03.12 | stew | ext3 would be my guess |
| 19:03.26 | Calinou | what does ext4 have over ext3? |
| 19:03.28 | peterS | Debian uses ext4 too, but only if you select it explicitly |
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| 19:03.47 | peterS | ext4 is faster, has larger files, and various architectural improvements most people have no need to care about |
| 19:03.57 | Calinou | phew |
| 19:03.59 | AlbertP | Do you know how to mount debugfs on debian? |
| 19:03.59 | peterS | ("has larger files" meaning "supports larger files") |
| 19:04.00 | wiiguy | well my network can do 1gbit, but tegh raspberry pi only have 10/100mbit right ? |
| 19:04.12 | jordanm | but you still can't have > 16TB filesystem :/\ |
| 19:04.29 | dvs | jordanm: What the heck do you want with that? |
| 19:04.33 | Calinou | 16TB is big, lol |
| 19:04.49 | wiiguy | hmm seems i was in the wrong chan |
| 19:04.51 | Calinou | peterS, and what about testing? |
| 19:04.57 | schreiberstein | 16 tb aren't that much imo |
| 19:04.59 | wiiguy | this question was meant for raspberrypi :p |
| 19:04.59 | Calinou | why is ext3 used by default if it's slower? |
| 19:05.02 | wiiguy | sry ya guys :p |
| 19:05.03 | Calinou | schreiberstein, WHAT? |
| 19:05.25 | schreiberstein | i mean a modern filesystem should support more than 16tb |
| 19:05.25 | dvs | Calinou: ext3 is far more proven |
| 19:05.27 | peterS | Calinou: ext3 is much more mature, and this was especially true in the timeframe of Debian's stable kernel, 2.6.32 |
| 19:05.49 | superstraw | have they come out with ext4 drivers for windows yet? |
| 19:05.53 | peterS | Calinou: ext4 is fairly well proven _now_, but in the kernel 2.6.32 days it was still a bit more risky |
| 19:05.54 | jordanm | dvs: I wanted a 36TB filesystem for backup servers |
| 19:05.57 | superstraw | last i checked they did not. |
| 19:06.01 | schreiberstein | no.. just ext2 drivers |
| 19:06.11 | AlbertP | superstraw: Diskinternals Linux Reader can read ext4 |
| 19:06.18 | dvs | jordanm: You can't backup the Internet. ;-P |
| 19:06.28 | Calinou | and, testing uses ext4 now, or not? |
| 19:06.29 | superstraw | ah y |
| 19:06.34 | superstraw | y |
| 19:06.36 | superstraw | err |
| 19:06.37 | superstraw | ty! |
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| 19:06.52 | jordanm | dvs: I worked for a hosting company that had about 2PB in backups... so I was backing up the internet |
| 19:07.00 | peterS | Calinou: I don't know, but if you are in a position to be using testing, you are definitely in a position to choose your filesystem at install time instead of just using the default |
| 19:07.04 | dvs | O_O |
| 19:07.50 | Calinou | peterS, nevermind then. it still works :p |
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| 19:08.52 | AlbertP | Maybe you missed my question. I was helping someone to mount debugfs, but we didn't manage, so I'm coming here. Running sudo mount -t debugfs none /sys/kernel/debug returns mountpoint not found. |
| 19:09.47 | Calinou | how do I know which filesystem I'm using? :P |
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| 19:10.15 | peterS | AlbertP: grep DEBUG_FS /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 19:10.22 | peterS | to see if your kernel even supports it |
| 19:11.32 | AlbertP | peterS: thanks, I'll look into that. |
| 19:12.13 | peterS | AlbertP: actually 'grep debug /proc/filesystems' will tell you, too |
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| 19:12.54 | peterS | AFAIK, if the kernel supports it at all, then it will create the '/sys/kernel/debug' directory that your system appears to not have. But I could be wrong. |
| 19:13.17 | peterS | (well, I mean, assuming sysfs is mounted on /sys, but that's almost always true.) |
| 19:13.31 | dvs | Calinou: mount? |
| 19:13.42 | Calinou | without losing all my files? |
| 19:13.47 | Calinou | not trusing mount a second |
| 19:13.47 | AlbertP | peterS: sysfs is mounted indeed. |
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| 19:14.11 | dvs | Calinou: ??? mount won't make you lose all your files. |
| 19:14.17 | AlbertP | Calinou: you can run sudo parted -l to list your disks and partitions, including the filesystem type |
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| 19:15.08 | peterS | Calinou: if you like, 'cat /proc/mounts' may be informative. it's the raw information that 'mount' uses to output a slightly prettier list. |
| 19:15.08 | dvs | fdisk -l is less secure in my opinion |
| 19:15.33 | stew | secure in what sense? |
| 19:15.44 | Calinou | used gparted; my filesystem is in ext4. |
| 19:15.50 | Calinou | testing uses ext4 by default now, looks like |
| 19:16.01 | dvs | well, I'd be more worried about losing files using fdisk than mount |
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| 19:16.18 | stew | fdisk -l doesn't modify anything |
| 19:16.26 | dvs | neither does mount |
| 19:16.28 | stew | Calinou: you used the testing installer? |
| 19:16.32 | peterS | Calinou: oh and 'cat /etc/fstab' would have answered your question too |
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| 19:16.50 | AlbertP | dvs: the -l option only listst partitions and doesn't change anything. If you want to modify things you need to type a disk, /dev/sda or the like. |
| 19:17.05 | Calinou | stew, latest weekly amd64 netinst |
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| 19:19.49 | dknight | hey, I have a dual boot and the windows partitions are mounted at boot time. They are mounted at /mnt/windows/* directories. However, they are not shown in the left panel of the nautilus. How do I get them to show up there? |
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| 19:20.48 | nsadmin | dknight, you want them mounted? |
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| 19:21.10 | dknight | nsadmin: they are mounted at boot time as they are in fstab |
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| 19:21.27 | nsadmin | and you want that? |
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| 19:22.14 | dknight | nsadmin: I want them to show up in my left panel of nautilus |
| 19:22.49 | dknight | just like I can see home and root partitions |
| 19:22.58 | jhutchins_lt | dknight: So you want to know how to add items to the shortcuts in nautilus. Does browsing to /mnt and dragging the icons there work? |
| 19:23.14 | dknight | jhutchins_lt: let me try that |
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| 19:23.51 | jparkton | do they even show up in Nautilus browsing? |
| 19:24.17 | dknight | jparkton: yeah they show up in nautilus browsing |
| 19:24.21 | dknight | I can access them fine |
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| 19:24.41 | dknight | dragging them to the left panel starts copying |
| 19:25.10 | jparkton | can you check the Nautilus configuration and see if you can just add a line to them? |
| 19:25.13 | dknight | it does not add a shortcut as I would want it to |
| 19:25.34 | dknight | jparkton: where do I look for the nautilus configuration |
| 19:26.04 | jparkton | is on Fedora atm so not really sure |
| 19:26.14 | jparkton | maybe in /usr/nautilus? |
| 19:27.43 | dknight | okay, adding bookmarks worked. I am feeling silly now. |
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| 19:27.56 | dknight | thanks guys |
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| 19:29.47 | peterrooney | the second most common lie said in the English language: "It's obvious." |
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| 19:36.36 | thewanderer1 | peterrooney: right after "no, it doesn't make you look fat"? :P |
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| 19:37.27 | peterS | eh, that's usually not a lie. clothes are usually not what is making you look fat. |
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| 19:41.05 | nsadmin | Who lies more? men or women? |
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| 19:41.52 | peterrooney | nsadmin: ubuntu users in #debian |
| 19:43.23 | nsadmin | not mint users in #ubuntu? |
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| 19:43.50 | cusco | hah |
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| 19:44.48 | BernardV | nsadmin: Ik think the women lie more... most men prefer a position on top... |
| 19:45.36 | nsadmin | that's a lie of a different flavor... |
| 19:45.43 | BernardV | hehehe :P |
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| 19:47.40 | BernardV | The answer to your question is simple.. If you ask a women: "Do you lie?" They will say "no" (that's a lie), if you aks a man: "Do you lie?" he will say "no" (that's a lie) so they both lie about not lying... 50/50 :) |
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| 19:51.30 | Gargantua | I never lie. |
| 19:51.39 | Gargantua | This one time I thought I was lying, turns out I was lying to myself. |
| 19:51.40 | Gargantua | Go figure. |
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| 19:56.13 | jhutchins_lt | BernardV: Either a) This is not true, or b) you are niether a man nor a woman. |
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| 20:00.00 | threadlock | really? this in #debian? |
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| 20:00.46 | jparkton | #debian-offtopic |
| 20:01.17 | onur | there is no lie in #debian |
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| 20:03.59 | BernardV | jhutchins_lt: :P |
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| 20:05.40 | DelphiWorld | hello |
| 20:05.50 | DelphiWorld | i'm having a complex networkig nic setup |
| 20:05.52 | pc_magas | Hi DelphiWorld |
| 20:06.05 | DelphiWorld | 2 gigaEthernet in a bonding interface |
| 20:06.09 | DelphiWorld | in adition to a bridge |
| 20:06.10 | pc_magas | at least is not a blrother one ☺ |
| 20:06.49 | DelphiWorld | pc_magas ? |
| 20:07.15 | DelphiWorld | i want to set my mtu into my ethernet interfaces |
| 20:07.26 | DelphiWorld | should i set it in bonding interface? in eth0|1 or in bridge ? |
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| 20:10.41 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: what are the bridge members, bond0 and something else? |
| 20:11.29 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home, for now bond0, but later kvm's |
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| 20:14.02 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: i'm guessing should be bond0 |
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| 20:15.24 | jelly-home | me too, but I can't find the docs |
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| 20:43.50 | jhutchins_lt | So I have a proprietary, closed-source binary installer I have to run. Is there any way to track all of the files it writes or writes to when I run it? |
| 20:44.08 | Calinou | no, probably not |
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| 20:45.22 | ompaul | jhutchins_lt: do it in a vm keep keep a clean vm and check all the inodes for access times with stat or something |
| 20:45.26 | tremon | jhutchins_lt: depending on the activity on your box, a find -mnewer may help, or comparing with a snapshot/backup |
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| 20:50.54 | alesan | hi |
| 20:51.07 | alesan | I am trying to install pcscd on debian "wheezy" |
| 20:51.16 | alesan | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 20:51.16 | alesan | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:51.35 | alesan | what can I do? The error message continues with: E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. |
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| 20:51.49 | alesan | now, I cannot understand why it says that I held anything |
| 20:51.53 | tremon | ,v libpcsclite1 |
| 20:51.54 | judd | Package: libpcsclite1 on i386 -- lenny: 1.4.102-1+lenny4; lenny-security: 1.4.102-1+lenny4; squeeze: 1.5.5-4; sid: 1.8.4-1; wheezy: 1.8.4-1 |
| 20:52.16 | tremon | alesan: where does version 1.8.4-1em1 come from? |
| 20:52.34 | alesan | tremon, I have absolutely no idea....... |
| 20:52.50 | alesan | I am on ARMEL platform, if that matters |
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| 20:53.19 | tremon | ,v libpcsclite1 --arch armel |
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| 20:53.19 | judd | Package: libpcsclite1 on armel -- lenny: 1.4.102-1+lenny4; lenny-security: 1.4.102-1+lenny4; squeeze: 1.5.5-4; sid: 1.8.4-1; wheezy: 1.8.4-1 |
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| 20:53.56 | tremon | alesan: paste the output of apt-cache policy and apt-cache policy libpcsclite1 |
| 20:53.59 | alesan | the package I want to install is pcscd |
| 20:54.04 | alesan | sure |
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| 20:54.09 | tremon | !tell alesan about paste |
| 20:54.56 | tremon | alesan: pcscd is not the package causing the problem, though |
| 20:55.12 | tremon | but you're welcome to also add apt-cache policy pcscd to the paste |
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| 20:55.31 | alesan | wait I am just almost finished... |
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| 20:56.09 | alesan | http://pastebin.ca/2169783 |
| 20:56.36 | tremon | ah... emdebian ;) |
| 20:56.38 | alesan | "lyndon" is an host where I have the apt-proxy so I do not have to download multiple times from the internet |
| 20:56.44 | alesan | well but |
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| 20:56.55 | alesan | it has also the real stuff |
| 20:57.04 | alesan | ohhh you mean it makes a difference? |
| 20:57.18 | alesan | I can get rid of the emdebian (grip) stuff |
| 20:57.19 | tremon | yeah, but emdebian is where the other version is coming from |
| 20:57.25 | tremon | not necessary (hopefully) |
| 20:57.45 | tremon | try apt-get -t sid install pcscd |
| 20:58.14 | tremon | that should pull in the dependencies from unstable instead of grip |
| 20:58.17 | alesan | it might be working... |
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| 20:58.53 | alesan | mh |
| 20:59.05 | alesan | it seems it worked! can you explain me that command? |
| 20:59.45 | tremon | well, man apt-get can tell you better than me, but the -t sid command raises the priority of packages from sid (aka debian unstable) |
| 21:00.10 | alesan | why would I want to do that, when my install is wheezy? |
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| 21:00.40 | tremon | since both grip and unstable have a priority of 500, apt-get tried to install the highest version available, which happened to be incompatible with pcscd |
| 21:00.44 | alesan | no I know the man page, but this goes beyond the man page, it has some "problem solving technique" that is not found on the manpage ;) |
| 21:01.05 | alesan | ohhh |
| 21:01.05 | alesan | sorry |
| 21:01.10 | tremon | alesan: if you want to be running wheezy, you should add "wheezy" to your sources.list, right now you only have unstable |
| 21:01.10 | alesan | I have unstable, not wheezy |
| 21:01.17 | alesan | nono you are right |
| 21:01.25 | alesan | grip and wheezy do not match |
| 21:01.30 | alesan | that is why I tried sid |
| 21:01.38 | alesan | but this trick is very cool, thanks! |
| 21:01.47 | nsadmin | wheezy and unstable is probably not a great idea |
| 21:02.09 | jhutchins_lt | tremon: mnewer doesn't seem to be an option on this distro (RHEL) but ctime worked - thanks! |
| 21:03.20 | tremon | jhutchins_lt: yeah, should have checked the manpage. It's anewer, cnewer or newer, not mnewer ;) |
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| 21:05.28 | tremon | alesan: as nsadmin says, wheezy has now been frozen which means testing and unstable will start to go out of sync. If you want to end up running wheezy, better remove the unstable lines |
| 21:06.07 | tremon | ...or add the testing lines, leave unstable too and configure apt to prefer wheezy (apt::default-release) |
| 21:06.22 | alesan | tremon, the problem is that I wanted to run grip |
| 21:06.35 | alesan | because I do not need documentation or unnecessary stuff |
| 21:07.00 | nsadmin | but you can leave the sid deb-src lines if you want to backport something from sid later |
| 21:07.07 | tremon | sadly, I'm not familiar with emdebian other than knowing it exists :) |
| 21:07.43 | alesan | tremon, apparently, grip is not available for wheezy |
| 21:07.50 | alesan | so that is why I have to specify unstable |
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| 21:08.20 | nsadmin | you should backport instead of just install |
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| 21:10.24 | tremon | alesan: you still might want to let apt know you prefer unstable-grip over unstable (i.e. emdebian over debian), otherwise apt will happily mix the two |
| 21:10.53 | tremon | which may or may not be a problem, I don't know if emdebian was designed that way |
| 21:11.21 | alesan | good question |
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| 21:11.33 | alesan | thanks for the note, I will try to understand |
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| 21:12.49 | marsje | I want to migrate users from a debian lenny to a debian squeeze system. How do I merge my /etc/passwd and shadow files? Does order matter? |
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| 21:14.17 | jhutchins_lt | marsje: No. |
| 21:14.42 | jhutchins_lt | I just manually edited out the system accounts and used :r to read the users in to the new files. |
| 21:15.07 | marsje | jhutchins_lt: :r? |
| 21:15.13 | jhutchins_lt | readfile in vi |
| 21:15.26 | marsje | jhutchins_lt: as you notice I'm not a vi user :) |
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| 21:15.43 | jhutchins_lt | vi oldusers, remove system accounts, vi /etc/users, :r oldusers |
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| 21:15.57 | jhutchins_lt | d'oh, /etc/passwd of course. |
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| 21:16.15 | jhutchins_lt | vipw provies some protection. |
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| 21:16.26 | guest234234 | whenever i start debian, instead of going to the login thing, it goes to like a white dash |
| 21:16.31 | marsje | jhutchins_lt: if order doesn't matter I might forst try to sort on user id# |
| 21:16.54 | jhutchins_lt | marsje: Sure, you can do that in a spreadsheet if nowhere else. |
| 21:17.13 | marsje | jhutchins_lt: it should separate normal users from system users I think |
| 21:17.15 | jhutchins_lt | Why am I still _lt? I'm supposed to be _wk... |
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| 21:17.43 | marsje | lt = latvia |
| 21:17.50 | jhutchins_lt | probably haven't restarted... |
| 21:18.07 | jhutchins_wk | marsje: lt also = " |
| 21:18.14 | jhutchins_wk | I'm on the laptop". |
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| 21:18.34 | marsje | then what is a wk? |
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| 21:18.53 | guest234234 | it is a blinking white - |
| 21:18.54 | jhutchins_wk | Which I'm not, I'm on the same box as jhutchins, but running irssi in screen remoted via ssh instead of konversation. |
| 21:19.11 | marsje | ah |
| 21:19.13 | jhutchins_wk | guest234234: That's usually a sign of a failed attempt to start xorg. |
| 21:19.32 | guest234234 | i restarted twice and it still did not start right |
| 21:19.58 | guest234234 | do i need to upgrade something or download something to get the normal login screen? |
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| 21:20.31 | marsje | guest234234: what did you do to break it in the 1st place? |
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| 21:21.13 | guest234234 | i just logged out and instead of going to the normal login screen, it went to the white dash |
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| 21:22.10 | nsadmin | guest234234, really you need to find out why |
| 21:22.23 | guest234234 | could it be the GUI is broken |
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| 21:23.22 | jparkton | guest234234, were you upgrading something....or installing something when this happened? |
| 21:23.23 | marsje | guest234234: everything could be broken, but usually it doesn't just break by itself.. so did you do anything? change? add? modify? |
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| 21:23.54 | guest234234 | i restarted my ststem, made a new user, and installed an ftp client |
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| 21:24.37 | marsje | guest234234: how did you create the new user? |
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| 21:25.37 | guest234234 | system>administration>users and groups>add |
| 21:26.10 | karlpinc | guest234234: What version of debian? |
| 21:26.20 | guest234234 | how do i find out:? |
| 21:26.24 | jelly-home | !version |
| 21:26.24 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r, or cat /proc/version. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_ , or run apt-cache policy <packagename>. Miscellaneous commands: try --version on the command. For the version of Debian, ask me about <debian suite>. |
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| 21:26.35 | jelly-home | who changed that factoid! |
| 21:26.39 | jelly-home | !debian suite |
| 21:26.39 | dpkg | cat /etc/debian_version (or lsb_release -sc). Or check /etc/apt/sources.list. If unsure about the distribution, $ cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} should grab almost all distributions. |
| 21:27.02 | jelly-home | guest234234: ^^ |
| 21:27.21 | marsje | guest234234: you need to switch to another tty I think and login there to get a shell |
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| 21:27.43 | karlpinc | !vt |
| 21:27.44 | dpkg | [vt] Virtual Terminal, like the console; change VTs using Alt+Left/Right or Alt+F1, Alt+F2 etc. To get from X to a VT, use Ctrl+Alt+F1 (and Alt+F7 to get back, most likely). You can also use "chvt" to switch VT. VT is also used to mean Intel VT-x or VT-d (virtualization support; the AMD counterpart is called AMD-V or Pacifica), ask me about <xve>. |
| 21:27.53 | karlpinc | guest234234: ^^ |
| 21:28.09 | guest234234 | by pressing ctrl alt f1, i can startx |
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| 21:28.34 | karlpinc | guest234234: We just want to get you in so you can answer our questions. |
| 21:28.42 | guest234234 | Linux version 2.6.32-5-amd64 (Debian 2.6.32-45) (dannf@debian.org) (gcc version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) ) #1 SMP Sun May 6 04:00:17 UTC 2012 |
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| 21:29.47 | karlpinc | guest234234: What is "cat /etc/debian_version"? |
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| 21:30.21 | guest234234 | 6.0.5 |
| 21:31.01 | karlpinc | guest234234: You must have a backported kernel.... |
| 21:31.15 | guest234234 | ?? |
| 21:31.32 | karlpinc | !tell guest234234 about bdo |
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| 21:32.08 | guest234234 | !bdo |
| 21:32.08 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg>, <bdo NEW>. |
| 21:32.19 | serxoz | Any "howto" about layer7 QoS on kernel 3.0? |
| 21:32.34 | karlpinc | guest234234: Something may have gone wrong when you installed your ftp client -- because your sources.list file is perhaps odd. Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 21:32.45 | karlpinc | !tell guest234234 about msg the bot |
| 21:33.05 | karlpinc | !tell guest234234 about pastebinit |
| 21:33.17 | guest234234 | holdon |
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| 21:33.35 | jelly-home | karlpinc: 2.6.32-5-amd64 is the bog-standard squeeze kernel |
| 21:34.12 | guest234234 | http://xloxin.com/paste.txt |
| 21:34.14 | karlpinc | jelly-home: Humm. Yes. Now where did I put my brain again... |
| 21:34.25 | ompaul | karlpinc: it's behind you! |
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| 21:35.30 | jelly-home | !hide |
| 21:35.30 | dpkg | runs away to shelter. |
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| 21:35.32 | karlpinc | guest234234: Looks totally normal. That's not it. |
| 21:35.33 | guest234234 | so, how do i get the normal login screen when starting the server up agani |
| 21:36.58 | guest234234 | when i tried ubuntu, i had the same problem and updated the nividia framework to fix it. |
| 21:37.42 | ompaul | guest234234: ctrl alt F7 does not offer you a gui log on screen?# |
| 21:37.43 | jhutchins_wk | !nvidia |
| 21:37.43 | dpkg | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . Ask me about <nouveau> (no 3D support in Debian packages), <nvidia dkms> or <nvidia m-a>. For GPUs made before 2004, see <nvidia dkms-173xx> and <nvidia dkms-96xx> for legacy drivers. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
| 21:37.51 | karlpinc | guest234234: How did you install nvidia? (You're supposed to do it by enabling the non-free section -- not by going to nvidia.) |
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| 21:38.39 | guest234234 | i did not install that in debian--i installed it on another computer running ubuntu |
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| 21:41.10 | guest234234 | i am going to leave and come back on on a different computer... |
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| 21:42.46 | guest32434 | see? i am on as a different user, so i can easily do other things on the other computer while hopefully getting my normal login screen problem fixed |
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| 21:43.54 | guest32434 | how do i fix the problem? |
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| 21:44.27 | marsje | guest32434: we're still in diagnose phase I think |
| 21:44.33 | tremon | guest32434: we still don't know what "the problem" is... |
| 21:45.36 | gnarface | kevlarman: i'm more surprised none of my blizzard games were even phased by the upgrade |
| 21:45.41 | guest32434 | is there a way to update everything? |
| 21:45.42 | marsje | guest32434: does your system use a nvidia graphics card |
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| 21:46.05 | kevlarman | gnarface: sc2 started crashing on me when it tries to grab the mouse |
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| 21:47.05 | waqstar | Which language is better to learn, c++, java or c# |
| 21:47.12 | guest32434 | how would i find out? |
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| 21:47.33 | marsje | guest32434: ah, ok, I thought you knew |
| 21:47.36 | kevlarman | waqstar: as a first language? |
| 21:47.39 | kevlarman | waqstar: skip all 3 |
| 21:47.48 | gnarface | waqstar: C++ will make you smarter. the other two will get you jobs |
| 21:47.54 | gnarface | waqstar: (but make you dumber) |
| 21:48.11 | kevlarman | i'd say python is the best introduction to programming |
| 21:48.27 | marsje | waqstar: java and c# are very similar languages, but obviously c# ties you to the windows platform |
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| 21:48.34 | kevlarman | then learn some C for how things work under the hood |
| 21:48.39 | kevlarman | marsje: bastion says hi |
| 21:48.49 | guest32434 | it also said, on bootup, that some bind9 thing failed |
| 21:48.59 | marsje | kevlarman: bastion? |
| 21:49.19 | kevlarman | marsje: fairly sizable game written in C# |
| 21:49.24 | waqstar | It's for first language. I'm interested in networking and basic applications for windows and linux. Not games |
| 21:49.24 | gnarface | waqstar: every other language's dirty little secret is they're all written in C |
| 21:49.26 | kevlarman | that works natively on linux |
| 21:49.27 | marsje | guest32434: bind is the dns server... |
| 21:49.33 | guest32434 | avahi-deamon also failed |
| 21:49.38 | gnarface | waqstar: so if you want to climb the knowledge food chain, C is close to the root of it |
| 21:49.43 | marsje | guest32434: you can try: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade |
| 21:49.52 | marsje | guest32434: is it your own server? |
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| 21:49.58 | guest32434 | yes |
| 21:50.02 | guest32434 | aptitude? |
| 21:50.13 | marsje | guest32434: or apt-get |
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| 21:50.51 | waqstar | C# ties to windows? |
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| 21:51.18 | marsje | waqstar: in the real world, yes |
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| 21:51.20 | gnarface | waqstar: yea C for maximum portability |
| 21:51.28 | guest32434 | only thing needing upgrading is google-chrome-... |
| 21:51.45 | gnarface | waqstar: java will do alright too but raise your min system requirements by what is considered a lot for normal applications |
| 21:51.46 | nkuttler | doesn't this mono thing do C# ? |
| 21:52.02 | marsje | guest32434: that doesn't really sound like the problem either... what kind of problem did you have with bind exactly? |
| 21:52.03 | kevlarman | nkuttler: if you stick to the subset that mono can do, yes |
| 21:52.07 | gnarface | nkuttler: about as well as wine |
| 21:52.10 | waqstar | C is very hard. As a first should I really start with c? |
| 21:52.31 | kevlarman | gnarface: quite a bit better for the subset that is actually implemented |
| 21:52.32 | nkuttler | waqstar: C isn't really hard, just different, closer to the hardware |
| 21:52.46 | kevlarman | waqstar: no C is a terrible introductory language |
| 21:52.47 | marsje | waqstar: depends what you want to do.. understand computers or get results |
| 21:52.52 | nkuttler | waqstar: if you're new to coding i think i'd recommend python |
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| 21:53.03 | kevlarman | waqstar: start with something higher level, but learning C afterwards is a good idea |
| 21:53.05 | jhutchins_wk | guest32434: So, now that we've eliminated upgrading as the solution, what about we go back to troubleshooting diagnostics? |
| 21:53.07 | guest32434 | with bind9 and with avahi-deamon, it was when i presed the ctrl alt and f1 and it said ... failed! |
| 21:53.12 | waqstar | Get results and get a job. Lol. |
| 21:53.20 | gnarface | waqstar: the parts that make it hard will make most other languages easy for you... the problem with going with an easier language to start like say javascript, is it perverts your understanding of the big picture because its not a representative example |
| 21:53.36 | waqstar | Yes I hear python is good |
| 21:53.58 | kevlarman | fwiw i got a job in python too :P |
| 21:54.06 | gnarface | python and perl will both get you a long way in linux |
| 21:54.21 | gnarface | you can do all the same stuff with php too but it'll make you dirty |
| 21:54.27 | gnarface | not recommended |
| 21:54.27 | marsje | python works fine on windows too |
| 21:54.54 | jparkton | marcel`, as long as your path is correct lol |
| 21:54.57 | kevlarman | gnarface: php is the vb6 of web development :( |
| 21:54.57 | waqstar | I know PHP. In linux so its better to learn python, how's the syntax, and similar to c and java? |
| 21:55.00 | guest32434 | i hope it can be fixed in 10 minutes |
| 21:55.07 | marsje | jparkton: true :) |
| 21:55.09 | kevlarman | waqstar: not at all |
| 21:55.14 | jparkton | python is nothing like any of those |
| 21:55.20 | marcel` | my path is my business! :-p |
| 21:55.22 | kevlarman | waqstar: python is just good at teaching good habits |
| 21:55.35 | nkuttler | like whitespace :P |
| 21:56.01 | marsje | waqstar: there are a lot of introductions on internet: try python.org and wikipedia.org |
| 21:56.03 | gnarface | the odd thing about that is i don't like it even though in my own code i'm strict about my whitespace |
| 21:56.13 | nkuttler | waqstar: or learning python the hard way |
| 21:56.14 | waqstar | Hmm. Is it low level like bash or can it make applications. And can it compile for wndows |
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| 21:56.29 | nkuttler | waqstar: you can build gui apps, yes |
| 21:56.37 | marsje | gnarface: you need a good editor that is configured correctly and then it's fine |
| 21:56.39 | kevlarman | gnarface: first time i unindented a block wrong wasn't fun :( |
| 21:56.54 | kevlarman | since the end of the block wasn't obvious |
| 21:57.27 | jparkton | waqstar, https://github.com/openstack/quantum/blob/master/run_tests.py there is some py to reference |
| 21:57.43 | guest32434 | i tried deleting iso (my new user)... nothing happened |
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| 21:58.11 | marsje | guest32434: I'm out of ideas... you could try to pastebin /var/log/syslog |
| 21:58.20 | trysten | hi everyone. after about a week of trial and error, i've finally booted a debootstrap system from a usb bridged harddrive. the key was adding a rootdelay=15 to the kernel cmdline. good afternoon! |
| 21:58.32 | waqstar | Cool. Is java as a whole a powerfully language? You guys must have some experience wih it. Is it as powerful as c++. C++ can do anything |
| 21:58.37 | jparkton | trysten, good afternoon |
| 21:58.39 | jparkton | :) |
| 21:58.44 | karlpinc | marsje: How about the X log? |
| 21:58.51 | guest32434 | hold on... |
| 21:59.14 | marsje | karlpinc: yes, that too, although when I have problems with X I just pray |
| 21:59.16 | jparkton | Java != C++ Java >= C |
| 21:59.21 | trysten | is laughing |
| 21:59.39 | nkuttler | pff |
| 21:59.58 | guest32434 | http://xloxin.com/syslog.txt |
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| 22:00.00 | marsje | waqstar: with all languages you can do everything... it all depends what you want |
| 22:00.09 | karlpinc | wataken44_: They're all equally powerful, being turing complete. However I'm staying away from java -- it's just too Oracle for me and who wants to get sued? |
| 22:00.31 | nkuttler | marsje: well, not all languages have decent libraries, so doing "everything" can take between a day and several months |
| 22:00.42 | gnarface | waqstar: java isn't frankly as well supported as C++ |
| 22:00.49 | karlpinc | wataken44_: You don't want a language owned by a single company, or claimed to be owned by same. |
| 22:00.52 | marsje | nkuttler: true |
| 22:01.10 | guest32434 | does that help? |
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| 22:01.13 | jparkton | exactly |
| 22:01.16 | waqstar | For the field of networking and linux. Not games or heavy applications, out of c++ and java. Which is better to use/learn |
| 22:01.17 | serxoz | layer 7 filter on kernel 3.0 is not possible? |
| 22:01.26 | jparkton | C++ |
| 22:01.30 | karlpinc | waqstar: C |
| 22:01.32 | gnarface | definitely C++ |
| 22:01.45 | nkuttler | serxoz: hrm, what's layer 7 filter? network packets? |
| 22:01.50 | waqstar | Thanks. |
| 22:01.52 | tremon | serxoz: a layer-7 filter is application-dependent, isn't it? |
| 22:01.54 | karlpinc | waqstar: C++ is C with extra possiblities. Start with C. |
| 22:01.56 | superstraw | CCCCCCCCCC |
| 22:02.23 | serxoz | nkuttler: yes |
| 22:02.35 | waqstar | I'm interested in computer security. Someone told me c++ is the way to go haha |
| 22:02.42 | nkuttler | serxoz: it's certainly possible, but don't ask me if there's an implementation to do it |
| 22:02.55 | serxoz | tremon: i saw netfilter has support but only for 2.4-2.6 |
| 22:02.55 | karlpinc | waqstar: Although if you just want to learn programming, try <sicp>. |
| 22:02.55 | karlpinc | !tell waqstar about sicp |
| 22:02.58 | marsje | guest32434: I see some warning about gdm which sounds suspicious: Jul 11 17:46:57 XLoxin gdm-simple-slave[1685]: WARNING: Unable to parse output: |
| 22:03.01 | marsje | Jul 11 17:46:57 XLoxin gdm-simple-slave[1685]: WARNING: Unable to parse D-Bus launch output |
| 22:03.19 | guest32434 | how do i fix? |
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| 22:03.41 | guest32434 | email me at support@spyinginc.com. i have to leave work, now. |
| 22:03.52 | marsje | guest32434: I have no clue... I'm not a guru, I just notice it and it has to do with the login screen, which is not working |
| 22:04.08 | marsje | guest32434: google that warning |
| 22:04.22 | karlpinc | guest32434: If X is the problem than look in the Xorg.log |
| 22:04.32 | waqstar | Karlpinc. Thanks. Is c hard to learn? |
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| 22:04.49 | guest32434 | bye |
| 22:04.53 | guest32434 | email me. |
| 22:04.57 | jparkton | waqstar, is quantem physics mathematical |
| 22:05.06 | trysten | laughs |
| 22:05.08 | karlpinc | waqstar: Perhaps. YMMV. |
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| 22:05.31 | tremon | serxoz: there is no difference between kernel versions 2.6.x and 3.x |
| 22:05.59 | waqstar | Jparkton. Haha |
| 22:06.17 | jelly-home | waqstar: http://norvig.com/21-days.html |
| 22:06.21 | waqstar | I'll get started on c lol. |
| 22:06.24 | serxoz | tremon: ty, i have to try netfilter patch on kernel 3.0 source |
| 22:06.26 | karlpinc | waqstar: C a glorified assembly language. If you want to learn something that's far from the hardware, do <sicp> or python. Ultimately, you'l want to understand the hardware, but maybe not right away. (Although starting with assembly is not bad either, and C is pretty close to that.) |
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| 22:06.48 | tremon | serxoz: also, #netfilter may be more useful to you |
| 22:07.36 | serxoz | tremon: lol i have not thought in that :D |
| 22:07.58 | serxoz | tremon: thank you! :D going... |
| 22:08.28 | waqstar | Karlpinc. Therefore c++ is in the middle no? An overall mix scripting and low level. Bash would be good to learn too. But its too basic |
| 22:08.46 | jelly-home | waqstar: "too basic" for what? |
| 22:08.52 | kevlarman | waqstar: C++ is anything but scripting |
| 22:09.57 | waqstar | GUI applications and stuff. I meant c++ is in the middle of c and scripting, like PHP. |
| 22:10.34 | jelly-home | waqstar: what experience do you base this assessment on? |
| 22:10.46 | waqstar | As you can probably tell I'm a beginner in programing ..lol |
| 22:11.04 | waqstar | Can GUI apps be created with bash? |
| 22:11.06 | tremon | waqstar: c++ is hardly middle on anything |
| 22:11.12 | tremon | waqstar: yes |
| 22:11.56 | waqstar | Ohh. That means now I have to choose between c c++ java or bash or python lol |
| 22:12.06 | waqstar | Don't know which to learn. |
| 22:12.08 | tremon | why choose at all? |
| 22:12.26 | waqstar | I'm second year university studyig network security |
| 22:12.36 | jelly-home | waqstar: each of the languages you mentioned serves a purpose. Making GUI apps with bash and zenity might be a stretch. |
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| 22:12.58 | waqstar | Tremon, what do you mean |
| 22:13.03 | jelly-home | waqstar: python seems to be a popular first programming language. |
| 22:13.06 | kevlarman | waqstar: python is a great starting point, bash serves a different purpose and is useful too |
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| 22:13.51 | kevlarman | you'll probably be forced to learn C eventually if you're interested in security |
| 22:14.00 | kevlarman | buffer overflows and all that |
| 22:14.03 | waqstar | Are there any famous apps written in python? |
| 22:14.22 | waqstar | Kevarman. Now that stuff I'm interested in lol |
| 22:14.22 | netcrash_ | rapache think it's in python |
| 22:14.24 | kevlarman | waqstar: what is a famous app? |
| 22:14.26 | tremon | waqstar: you'll never learn to program properly if you only focus on one language. Different languages offer different perspectives and different solutions |
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| 22:16.00 | waqstar | So you recommend that python is a good starter. Can it make a key logger for example. I'm studying network security. Don't get freaked lol |
| 22:16.30 | kevlarman | waqstar: yes there are X11/win32 bindings if you really want |
| 22:16.39 | alesan | waqstar, I would begin with C... |
| 22:16.48 | alesan | with C you can do most things... |
| 22:16.57 | dcco | tremon: not to mention different available libraries, which may be the most important thing when choosing one for the next project |
| 22:17.26 | gnarface | waqstar: C isn't the easiest language to learn but its still a good one to learn first because most the other languages are based on it to some degree |
| 22:18.00 | waqstar | Gnarface. I agree. How do c and c++ differ? |
| 22:18.18 | gnarface | waqstar: c++ has extra features |
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| 22:18.29 | gnarface | waqstar: objects and such |
| 22:18.46 | stew | c++ is a mess |
| 22:18.59 | gnarface | waqstar: just lexical toys - otherwise they are very similar in purpose and in deployment |
| 22:19.01 | teratorn | waqstar: c++ is C, ruined. |
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| 22:19.17 | teratorn | gnarface: eh, C has objects and such too |
| 22:19.19 | jordanm | c++: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/57918 |
| 22:19.20 | waqstar | Stew. How? So many opinions |
| 22:19.28 | jordanm | waqstar: see the link |
| 22:19.37 | stew | "Bjarne Stroustrup bolts everything he's ever heard of onto C to create C++. The resulting language is so complex that programs must be sent to the future to be compiled by the Skynet artificial intelligence" |
| 22:19.43 | gnarface | waqstar: C will aid your understanding of the fundamentals of network programming well. C++ will be a natural progression after that for learning gui programming |
| 22:19.58 | stew | i'm not sure what beneficial comes from learning c++ |
| 22:19.59 | teratorn | gnarface: no, not really |
| 22:20.00 | tremon | loves c++ template classes |
| 22:20.07 | teratorn | C++ isn't natural, for anything |
| 22:20.18 | teratorn | except the purpose of obfuscation |
| 22:20.33 | nkuttler | maybe you guys should take this to ##programming |
| 22:20.39 | gnarface | yea probably |
| 22:20.40 | teratorn | people have discovered you can just skip C++ entirely in the modern age |
| 22:20.59 | teratorn | since it is only every required for A) legacy B) video game development (defacto standard) |
| 22:21.00 | dcco | teratorn: well, it's pretty good for banging your head against a wall when debugging |
| 22:21.05 | teratorn | dcco: :) |
| 22:21.39 | teratorn | C + <very high level language of choice> is all you really need to be effective for wide range of programming tasks |
| 22:21.44 | jelly-home | waqstar: dude, you don't have the reference point to agree or disagree with him. Learn objective programming with python or java or even C++, learn imperative programming and debugging with C, learn some functional programming with haskell or wtfnot lisp, learn to write glue scripts with bash or perl or python, and that's 5 years of your time |
| 22:22.20 | jelly-home | wtf. <gnarface> waqstar: C isn't the easiest language to learn but [...] <waqstar> Gnarface. I agree |
| 22:22.24 | teratorn | jelly-home: learning object-oriented programming in C is fairly advantageous, if you're writing C. |
| 22:22.43 | nkuttler | !start a language war |
| 22:22.43 | dpkg | BASIC is more readable than Ruby |
| 22:22.46 | stew | i'd love to see a definition of object-oriented programming. I've never heard of a good one |
| 22:22.55 | teratorn | stew: there aren't any good ones |
| 22:23.01 | teratorn | stew: it's a horrible phrase |
| 22:23.06 | jelly-home | teratorn: sure. I write objective code in Perl. |
| 22:23.23 | jelly-home | teratorn: I won't recommend it to a newbie tho |
| 22:23.28 | danand | hi all, having a few difficulties with selinux and postfix... if I have selinux in enforcing mode postfix won't even install! I've tried a good few things... unfortunately to no avail. Anyone have any experience with installing postfix when selinux is in enforcing mode? |
| 22:23.30 | nkuttler | mmh. moose? |
| 22:23.38 | jordanm | MooseX is an abomoniation |
| 22:23.47 | teratorn | it isn't any harder in C than C++ |
| 22:23.48 | nkuttler | hehe |
| 22:23.54 | teratorn | you just have an explicit this pointer |
| 22:26.51 | waqstar | Android is programmed in java, meaning it has all the robustness and flexibility if c and c++ I just learned that android is written in java. Wow. |
| 22:27.01 | waqstar | Every day is a school day lol |
| 22:27.38 | waqstar | So isn't java the language of the future? |
| 22:27.42 | teratorn | it still runs on linux though |
| 22:27.50 | teratorn | waqstar: i doubt it |
| 22:28.02 | teratorn | it'll just be around for a long time to come |
| 22:28.10 | gnarface | waqstar: java doesn't run on the bare hardware. java is still written in C/C++ and is running on top of the linux kernel there |
| 22:28.15 | teratorn | i dont think it will ever see a real resurgence |
| 22:28.20 | nkuttler | waqstar: there is no single language that does everything. you want to learn at least three, four languages.. to get started |
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| 22:29.41 | waqstar | Isn't the android platform proof that java can do everything. If it can make an os. I'm a.beginner. pls don't hate. Tryingto learn lol |
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| 22:30.19 | dcco | waqstar: it still runs on linux |
| 22:30.24 | kevlarman | waqstar: there are cpus that execute java bytecode, but android is not written in java |
| 22:30.31 | kevlarman | waqstar: there's lots of C involved |
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| 22:31.54 | waqstar | The actual kernel yes. C is more for hardware and very low level. Something like ms office, what is that written in? |
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| 22:33.56 | gnarface | waqstar: i think C++ and Visual Basic, traditionally, maybe C# and VB going forward though, but this is definitely not about debian |
| 22:34.35 | waqstar | Cool. Thanks. |
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| 22:35.06 | jparkton | yeah because most enterprise server apps are coded in C right? |
| 22:35.08 | jparkton | lol |
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| 22:36.09 | alesan | enterprise server apps are all in Java |
| 22:36.20 | gnarface | heh |
| 22:36.21 | gnarface | or php |
| 22:36.30 | iluminator105 | can someone help setup LSM-100 Scanner Mouse in linux |
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| 22:36.35 | trysten | iluminator105: NO |
| 22:36.39 | gnarface | waqstar: http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/standards.html#Source-Language |
| 22:36.43 | trysten | iluminator105: just kidding. |
| 22:38.17 | jparkton | php is just markup language |
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| 22:38.33 | jparkton | and run within the web server |
| 22:38.54 | jhutchins | jparkton: It's not a markup language. HTML is a markup language. |
| 22:39.05 | jparkton | erps |
| 22:39.07 | jparkton | your right |
| 22:39.36 | kevlarman | jparkton: you're* |
| 22:39.38 | kevlarman | ducks |
| 22:39.45 | jparkton | I havent personally ever had to run php scripts locally to configure server settings though |
| 22:39.47 | jhutchins | jparkton: It's possible to process PHP without a web server, and I know of one place where they run some of the PHP code in a shell. |
| 22:39.51 | jparkton | so im new to that aspect of it |
| 22:40.22 | waqstar | Therefore its a scripting language. Don't need web server to execute |
| 22:40.27 | jparkton | :) thank you kevlarman |
| 22:40.29 | jparkton | lol |
| 22:40.30 | jhutchins | Most of the server apps where I am now are either ksh or java. |
| 22:40.43 | jhutchins | waqstar: RIght. |
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| 22:41.48 | jparkton | so theoretically speaking since php does not need a web server to function how do you run them without apache? |
| 22:41.59 | jhutchins | I'm not sure what term would distinguish between languages that are usually interpreted vs. those that are nearly always compiled. |
| 22:41.59 | jparkton | ./info.php |
| 22:42.28 | jhutchins | jparkton: php is a command-line interpreter for the language. |
| 22:42.29 | waqstar | Using the PHP command. |
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| 22:42.41 | jparkton | cool |
| 22:42.43 | jhutchins | php ./info.php |
| 22:42.47 | jparkton | learnt somethin today :) |
| 22:42.48 | gnarface | jparkton: in debian you install the php5-cli package and add a #!/usr/bin/php to the header of that info.php file and then make it executable |
| 22:42.54 | kevlarman | jhutchins: there are interpreters for C and compilers for most "scripting" languages |
| 22:42.54 | gnarface | jparkton: or, php ./info.php, yes |
| 22:43.04 | gnarface | jparkton: just like bash |
| 22:43.12 | kevlarman | jhutchins: i tend to separate them by dynamically typed vs statically typed |
| 22:43.13 | jparkton | not too shabby |
| 22:43.14 | jhutchins | kevlarman: There was an interpreter for System370 assembler. |
| 22:43.23 | jparkton | I may need to read up some more on php it seems |
| 22:43.26 | gnarface | jparkton: you can add it to /etc/shells |
| 22:43.31 | jhutchins | kevlarman: And I have run a system that was almost entirely compiled DOS batch files. |
| 22:43.52 | kevlarman | jhutchins: i'm going to go curl up in a corner and cry now |
| 22:43.57 | jhutchins | kevlarman: Which is why "usually" and "nearly always". |
| 22:43.59 | kevlarman | jhutchins: i did not need to know that |
| 22:44.13 | gnarface | jparkton: it can be useful for situations where you're like "shit i really need this bash script to make a mysql query... what to do?" |
| 22:44.37 | gnarface | jparkton: or rather "crap i need this website to run on a cron job" |
| 22:44.48 | jhutchins | gnarface: Seeing as you can use the mysql client directly from the bash script... |
| 22:44.57 | nkuttler | ew, that sounds messy |
| 22:44.59 | kevlarman | gnarface: echo "SELECT * FROM bobbies_table WHERE..." |mysql |
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| 22:45.19 | nkuttler | kevlarman: no auth? doube ew |
| 22:45.24 | jhutchins | mysql also accepts commands directly, don't need to pipe 'em. |
| 22:45.25 | nkuttler | double even |
| 22:45.33 | gnarface | jhutchins: yea but bash can't really do much useful with nested arrays |
| 22:45.55 | jhutchins | gnarface: for Drupal you call the php script with wget or curl. |
| 22:45.58 | waqstar | So java wins? Lol |
| 22:46.03 | waqstar | Joke |
| 22:46.13 | nkuttler | !start a language war |
| 22:46.13 | jhutchins | gnarface: perl ftw! |
| 22:46.13 | dpkg | TCL is more efficient than Haskell |
| 22:46.39 | jparkton | gnarface or use java |
| 22:46.47 | gnarface | waqstar: i was just making the point that you *can* do stuff with php, even if you shouldn't |
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| 22:47.54 | waqstar | PHP is one of the best. One of my friends made a cms from.it |
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| 22:49.52 | gnarface | waqstar: eh, its dirty and the community surrounding it encourages bad behavior |
| 22:50.21 | jparkton | well yeah I can float down niagra falls in a teacup but that doesnt mean its advisable |
| 22:50.23 | jparkton | lol |
| 22:50.23 | kevlarman | nkuttler: i thought the part about bobby's table made it obvious that it wasn't a real example |
| 22:50.49 | jparkton | oh oh better flame war |
| 22:50.58 | jparkton | vi > emacs |
| 22:50.59 | jparkton | kgo |
| 22:51.10 | kevlarman | waqstar: php is the biggest piece of trash since visual basic :P |
| 22:51.21 | jparkton | lol kevinbenko |
| 22:51.24 | nkuttler | vim > vi |
| 22:51.25 | jparkton | oops |
| 22:51.28 | jparkton | kevlarman, |
| 22:51.37 | waqstar | Lol. Vi > Joe |
| 22:51.38 | jparkton | vim <= vi |
| 22:52.03 | jparkton | or |
| 22:52.07 | jparkton | men > women |
| 22:52.11 | jparkton | runs |
| 22:52.33 | waqstar | Ohhhhhhhhh |
| 22:52.37 | waqstar | Damnnnnnnnn |
| 22:52.39 | jparkton | or cvs > git |
| 22:52.42 | stew | http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/#preface |
| 22:52.47 | jparkton | soo many flames |
| 22:53.04 | waqstar | Women anyday. |
| 22:53.15 | bassliner | tits > vi |
| 22:53.20 | jparkton | anything that can bleed for 6 days and not die is demonic |
| 22:53.22 | jparkton | nuff said |
| 22:53.23 | boudiccas | and how is all this off-topic crap related to debian? |
| 22:53.27 | jparkton | ugh |
| 22:53.38 | jparkton | we shouod take all this to #debian-offtopic |
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| 22:54.06 | bassliner | boudiccas: it's just that using debian you can watch porn. |
| 22:54.41 | waqstar | Lool. Bassliner. |
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| 22:55.06 | jparkton | keep it on topic folks some people get butthurt and rageban |
| 22:56.10 | nkuttler | looks like no op is around |
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| 22:57.24 | jparkton | !ops |
| 22:57.24 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. |
| 22:57.45 | jparkton | oh they are around |
| 22:57.55 | jparkton | just waiting for me to mature lol |
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| 23:00.19 | DiegoMax|MBP | hello i was wondering if anybody knows of any automated tool that i can use for daily remote backups ? |
| 23:00.25 | DiegoMax|MBP | i know already i can write a script myself |
| 23:00.33 | nsadmin | I got ragebanned for like a week or something for suggesting that one should be careful with music into headphones |
| 23:00.39 | nkuttler | DiegoMax|MBP: i like backuppc |
| 23:00.40 | DiegoMax|MBP | im just looking for options |
| 23:00.44 | DiegoMax|MBP | googles |
| 23:00.45 | DiegoMax|MBP | thanks |
| 23:01.21 | dvs | DiegoMax|MBP: look up clonezilla too |
| 23:01.32 | nsadmin | DiegoMax|MBP, probably the most important thing is to come up with a backup plan that encompasses your whole setup |
| 23:01.33 | DiegoMax|MBP | thanks :D |
| 23:01.34 | waqstar | Clinezilla |
| 23:01.40 | dvs | who? |
| 23:01.50 | DiegoMax|MBP | i pretty much only need to copy database files from postgre |
| 23:01.57 | DiegoMax|MBP | and a single dir from www (profile pics) |
| 23:01.58 | nsadmin | Peter Townshend? |
| 23:02.04 | DiegoMax|MBP | everything else is pretty much irrelevant |
| 23:02.35 | nsadmin | DiegoMax|MBP, also dumping from postgres is useful |
| 23:02.40 | nkuttler | DiegoMax|MBP: i prefer to backup dumps of databases, not the binary files |
| 23:02.45 | DiegoMax|MBP | yah |
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| 23:02.47 | DiegoMax|MBP | i agree |
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| 23:02.55 | nsadmin | works great :) |
| 23:03.50 | nsadmin | DiegoMax|MBP, if you are doing a website, it's also important to backup those when you dump the pg |
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| 23:04.18 | DiegoMax|MBP | is not a website, its an API endpoint written by myself |
| 23:04.35 | DiegoMax|MBP | all the code is really sinced to bitbucket, so other than the user data which is only profile pics for now, everything else is on the DB |
| 23:04.40 | DiegoMax|MBP | **synced |
| 23:04.41 | nsadmin | that connects to libpq? |
| 23:05.00 | DiegoMax|MBP | huh... what ? |
| 23:05.13 | DiegoMax|MBP | what the relationship between libpq and this ? |
| 23:05.14 | DiegoMax|MBP | im lost... |
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| 23:05.23 | nsadmin | your api endpoint, do you use the pg client lib? |
| 23:05.29 | jparkton | carbonite |
| 23:05.31 | DiegoMax|MBP | the one that comes with PHP |
| 23:05.36 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 23:05.39 | DiegoMax|MBP | :D |
| 23:06.44 | intosh | DiegoMax|MBP: make dumps of db and rsync that and www through ssh |
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| 23:06.49 | Pennis | hiya |
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| 23:07.12 | DiegoMax|MBP | intosh: yah maybe... |
| 23:07.21 | DiegoMax|MBP | im rly trying to avoid the "do it myself" way though |
| 23:07.30 | Pennis | Hey |
| 23:07.49 | nsadmin | horsefood |
| 23:08.49 | DiegoMax|MBP | damn nsadmin this backuppc thing even depends on postfix... |
| 23:08.53 | DiegoMax|MBP | :/ |
| 23:09.03 | DiegoMax|MBP | looked good, but wayyyyy too many deps for my taste |
| 23:09.04 | intosh | DiegoMax|MBP: if you are about to backup your server it is thesimplest solution |
| 23:09.25 | DiegoMax|MBP | intosh, im not "about" i just want to have daily backups in way that i dont have to worry about |
| 23:09.29 | SumYunGai | sup |
| 23:09.31 | SumYunGai | ;p |
| 23:09.34 | DiegoMax|MBP | i've done the "do it myself" approach many times |
| 23:09.44 | stew | DiegoMax|MBP: it depends having a working MTA so that it can email you about failures. it doesn't have to be postfix, but anything that provides mail-transport-agent |
| 23:09.47 | intosh | backup systems are more complicated than that - at least bacula |
| 23:09.57 | DiegoMax|MBP | well |
| 23:10.00 | DiegoMax|MBP | on other box that i have |
| 23:10.14 | nkuttler | thinks backuppc is quite easy |
| 23:10.21 | DiegoMax|MBP | i run webmin to deal with some stuff, and you wont believe how good is the remote backup scheduler that webmin has |
| 23:10.33 | stew | no, i don't believe that |
| 23:10.34 | nkuttler | !tell DiegoMax|MBP about webmin |
| 23:10.36 | DiegoMax|MBP | nkuttler, i didnt say the opposite, i just dont like having to install a whole lot of deps |
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| 23:10.49 | boudiccas | i prefer rsync and a backup script kindly written for me by friends |
| 23:10.49 | MagisterQuis | Ok, I give up. Where's debian store the firewall script? |
| 23:10.49 | DiegoMax|MBP | i know about webmin |
| 23:10.53 | DiegoMax|MBP | dont remind me |
| 23:10.57 | nkuttler | uh, but you use webmin? that doesn't make sense |
| 23:11.02 | DiegoMax|MBP | thats why im looking for an alternative |
| 23:11.04 | DiegoMax|MBP | i dont like it! |
| 23:11.05 | DiegoMax|MBP | :D |
| 23:11.08 | stew | MagisterQuis: wherever you store it |
| 23:11.13 | nkuttler | DiegoMax|MBP: learn any text editor |
| 23:11.23 | DiegoMax|MBP | ok |
| 23:11.38 | stew | DiegoMax|MBP: which deps of backuppc are you against installing? |
| 23:11.40 | intosh | DiegoMax|MBP: I use virtualmin (includes webmin) - it is OK |
| 23:11.42 | gnarface | DiegoMax|MBP: the bot, dpkg, should have told you about an alternative |
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| 23:11.52 | DiegoMax|MBP | intosh, i use virtualmin too on some places for hosting |
| 23:11.54 | DiegoMax|MBP | its ok |
| 23:11.56 | nsadmin | learn your shell too, and some shell commands too |
| 23:11.59 | DiegoMax|MBP | i just dont like how many crap it installs |
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| 23:12.07 | gnarface | what does the bot list? |
| 23:12.09 | MagisterQuis | stew: Thanks. Is there somewhere debian looks for scripts to run at startup? |
| 23:12.10 | nkuttler | perl is installed anyway. i doubt backuppc installs many deps |
| 23:12.13 | MagisterQuis | is a gentoo user |
| 23:12.45 | gnarface | http://wiki.debian.org/HostingControlPanels |
| 23:13.00 | sacredchao | What are some good tools in Debian to extract the PCM uncompressed audio channel from my .MOV files I recorded with my camera (whilst leaving the original file alone)? |
| 23:13.40 | gnarface | sacredchao: pretty simple task with avconv/ffmpg |
| 23:13.53 | gnarface | sacredchao: probably mencoder too |
| 23:14.02 | stew | MagisterQuis: lots of places. the recommended thing to do is to run your firwall script from a pre-up line in /etc/network/interfaces for the interface it protects, which can possibly be iptables-restore of a file you create with iptables-save |
| 23:14.07 | stew | MagisterQuis: see man 5 interfaces |
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| 23:16.20 | nsadmin | mencode/mdecode with appropriate codecs? |
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| 23:17.31 | nsadmin | Sacredchao, you'll have to read up on those carefully, they can do a LOT of different things, and you will want one specific thing |
| 23:18.13 | Pennis | I am such a pennis. |
| 23:19.04 | MagisterQuis | stew: Thanks |
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| 23:24.54 | nsadmin | sacredchao: also people post their way of converting x to y, and google indexes that... you can google for "extract audio from .mov" and get a lot of info from that, not the least of which are exact solutions |
| 23:25.57 | gnarface | Pennis: do you have a debian question? |
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| 23:29.33 | Chex | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:30.18 | DelphiWorld | HELLO;-) |
| 23:30.18 | DelphiWorld | rose0 Link encap:AMPR ROSE HWaddr 0000000000 |
| 23:30.23 | DelphiWorld | what this kind of interfaces? |
| 23:31.04 | MagisterQuis | So, I reboot, and my directory structure has changed... |
| 23:31.14 | Pennis | I am SUCH a pennis! |
| 23:31.25 | dvs | You sure are! |
| 23:31.27 | MagisterQuis | Or, I'm on the wrong box :D |
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| 23:32.41 | gnarface | did Pennis msg anyone else? |
| 23:32.46 | Pennis | I sure did |
| 23:32.50 | Pennis | I wanna make friends here |
| 23:33.01 | gnarface | Pennis: really? |
| 23:33.05 | MagisterQuis | gnarface: He did, yes. |
| 23:33.27 | dvs | yup |
| 23:33.28 | Pennis | Yep really |
| 23:33.35 | Pennis | I am new to the Net |
| 23:33.36 | MagisterQuis | I was wondering why a debian passwd file looked a lot like an OS X passwd file... |
| 23:34.06 | gnarface | Pennis: well you should install debian then |
| 23:34.22 | gnarface | Pennis: you will learn a lot about the net |
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| 23:37.17 | dvs | MagisterQuis: Because they're both UNIX-like based? |
| 23:37.31 | reuf | hello everyone - i was installing ruby using apt-get - the installation process got messed up - now whenever i try to install something else - it goes well, but at the end each time i get Errors were encountered while processing: ruby-rvm \n E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 23:37.34 | reuf | how do i clean this |
| 23:37.35 | reuf | ? |
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| 23:38.11 | MagisterQuis | dvs: Because I was examining the passwd file on my laptop thinking I was on my debian server |
| 23:38.19 | MagisterQuis | . |
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| 23:45.43 | stew | judd: versions ruby-rvm |
| 23:45.44 | judd | No package named 'ruby-rvm' was found in i386. |
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| 23:47.00 | intosh | reuf: dpkg -l | grep ruby-rvm > what that command show? |
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| 23:48.58 | Pennis | i am the wanka |
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| 23:50.06 | SumYunGai | cant be banned :D |
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| 23:50.25 | MagisterQuis | Why not? |
| 23:50.27 | reuf | iF ruby-rvm 1.6.9-0ubuntu2 easily install, manage and work with multiple ruby environments |
| 23:50.37 | reuf | intosh, |
| 23:50.43 | reuf | previos entry |
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| 23:53.15 | intosh | reuf: you can remove that deb or reinstall |
| 23:54.46 | intosh | reuf: also dpkg-reconfigure ruby-rvm may help |
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| 23:55.12 | reuf | i found some sort of patch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ruby-rvm/+bug/894311 |
| 23:55.29 | reuf | post #3 and #6 |
| 23:55.37 | stew | reuf: pleaes go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu |
| 23:55.44 | reuf | ok steinex |
| 23:55.46 | reuf | ok stew |
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