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| 00:30.34 | iluminator105 | whats the best ocr software for linux? |
| 00:30.48 | pparadis | !best |
| 00:30.49 | dpkg | Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
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| 00:31.29 | iluminator105 | best meaning most effective/efficient |
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| 00:31.54 | pparadis | for what kind of OCR tasks? have you looked at available software in the repositories and tried different things? |
| 00:31.59 | pparadis | what version of debian are you running? |
| 00:32.30 | iluminator105 | pparadis, stable |
| 00:33.38 | karlpinc | iluminator105: Use <debtags> and search for ocr. IIRC there's one that ibm open sourced. (I get the feeling that nothing's really good. I used tesseract, I think. It's all painful.) |
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| 00:36.29 | lemonz | hrm |
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| 00:39.33 | pparadis | iluminator105: this stuff should get you started --> http://paste.debian.net/180048/ |
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| 00:41.59 | iluminator105 | pparadis, thanks |
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| 01:09.30 | brownBagSpecial | Im trying to set up an internal webserver with vhosts, each vhost linking to a sym link in /var/www to each home folder (~/www) and I cant figure it out for the life of me, I have been banging my head against this keyboard for hours, all folders up to and including~/www are world readable and files inside are world readable, I keep getting 403 errors, any ideas? |
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| 01:10.16 | jagginess | brownBagSpecial, read apache's logs |
| 01:10.20 | brownBagSpecial | I have Options FollowSymLinks in the vhost config, the error log tells me I dont have permissions |
| 01:10.26 | brownBagSpecial | but nothing more |
| 01:10.33 | brownBagSpecial | let me get the exact verbage |
| 01:10.39 | jagginess | brownBagSpecial, no |
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| 01:11.21 | brownBagSpecial | Jagginess ?? |
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| 01:11.56 | jagginess | brownBagSpecial, vhost << I don't think you realize what it takes to get vhost to work to begin with |
| 01:12.22 | brownBagSpecial | [Fri Jul 20 16:09:46 2012] [error] [XXX] Symbolic link not allowed or link target not accessible: /var/www/webdb |
| 01:12.30 | lemonz | any of you guys familar with znc? |
| 01:13.03 | jagginess | lemonz, for networking setup? |
| 01:13.14 | lemonz | jagginess: the IRC bouncer |
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| 01:14.31 | brownBagSpecial | The apache vhosts are internaly DNS'd and I can ping them, I just cant get any http docs out of them... |
| 01:14.48 | brownBagSpecial | only 403 errors |
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| 01:16.36 | brownBagSpecial | here is the vhost config http://pastebin.com/5aTu5fAH |
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| 01:19.56 | grothendieck | I have my /root /home and swap partitions on /dev/sda, I just put in a second disk /dev/sdb mainly for kvm images/snapshots and backups |
| 01:20.04 | grothendieck | would it make sense to make /dev/sdb use LVM? |
| 01:20.14 | jagginess | grothendieck, no |
| 01:20.24 | grothendieck | Why not? |
| 01:20.28 | grothendieck | Just wondering. |
| 01:20.29 | jagginess | grothendieck, lvm only makes sense if you use lvm groups across 1+ disk |
| 01:20.38 | jagginess | grothendieck, makes no sense to use lvm on one disk |
| 01:20.47 | WormFood | is there some trick to getting ibus to work with the newest versions of firefox? ibus was working on older versions of firefox, but not with the newest on their web site. |
| 01:21.18 | grothendieck | Could I get /dev/sda to also use LVM without reinstalling Debian? (Or would this be more effort than backup and reinstall) |
| 01:21.58 | WormFood | and sound is very inconsistent with firefox/flash too. Sometimes I get sound, sometimes not. Rather annoying (and no I'm not using that shit to watch videos with either) |
| 01:22.13 | grothendieck | I don't like the way my disk was partitioned when I installed debian (/usr is too small), but I also don't like the idea of reinstalling Debian |
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| 01:22.32 | jagginess | grothendieck, i'm not sure, but it'll take some work, i dont think the lvm header data can be moved easily, so you'd have to shrink everything towards the ending of the drive, and make a new lvm partition at the beginning.. |
| 01:22.33 | grothendieck | jagginess: thanks for the answers, btw |
| 01:22.45 | jagginess | grothendieck, best is to restart.. it'll take too much work.. |
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| 01:23.07 | jagginess | grothendieck, unless you know how to migrate your current setup to the second drive using lvm.. |
| 01:23.21 | brownBagSpecial | jagginess, have any ideas that could point me in the right direction? |
| 01:23.27 | jagginess | grothendieck, then nuke the first drive and setup an lvm partition on it to become a member of the other drive's lvm |
| 01:23.36 | karlpinc | grothendieck: You need space to move the data. You can't just convert. |
| 01:23.40 | grothendieck | Right |
| 01:23.46 | jagginess | grothendieck, he has a second empty drive |
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| 01:23.51 | grothendieck | Well /dev/sda is 1TB and /dev/sdb is 500GB |
| 01:23.59 | grothendieck | probably won't work |
| 01:24.12 | karlpinc | grothendieck: How full are they? |
| 01:24.47 | grothendieck | Oh good point, SDA is not very full at all (~750 GB free) |
| 01:24.53 | grothendieck | SDB hasn't even been partitioned |
| 01:25.03 | karlpinc | grothendieck: You don't have to use lvm. You can resize the partition and the fs if you do it while booted from a live-cd, or whatever. |
| 01:25.15 | grothendieck | I want to switch to LVM |
| 01:25.25 | karlpinc | grothendieck: I tend to like lvm. |
| 01:25.58 | squisher | hey folks, anyone around with modsecurity experience? I'm having trouble getting it to look at post parameters |
| 01:26.09 | grothendieck | I need to do a lot of testing for software under different Linux/BSD distros |
| 01:26.24 | grothendieck | thinks get full quickly, and I want dedicated volumes for my KVM pools |
| 01:26.32 | karlpinc | grothendieck: You'll need to boot from a live-cd anyway -- although you _coud_ copy things in single user mode and then remount or reboot as needed. |
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| 01:27.41 | mitc0185 | I'd like to use an older version of libcairo2 to substitute the latest version -- how can I fool apt into thinking I have the latest version so dependencies are met? |
| 01:28.08 | karlpinc | grothendieck: I'd also consider converting fstab to using disk labels so you can change uuids without hassle, although if you pay attention you can do it either way. |
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| 01:28.35 | squisher | mitc0185, as long as you're aware that you're breaking all warranty: apt-get source PKG, and then repackage it with the new version string |
| 01:29.01 | squisher | mitc0185, why do you need that older version? It may be better for your system health if you try to use it only where you need it |
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| 01:29.08 | pparadis | that really does sound like a bad idea. surely there's a better way to solve the actual problem here. |
| 01:29.13 | karlpinc | mitc0185: Sounds like a bad idea. Better to repackage the old one and have both installed and change your ldpath (or whatever it is) for those apps you want to use the old lib. |
| 01:29.16 | pparadis | so what's the actual problem? |
| 01:29.24 | mitc0185 | libcairo2 has a bug in it |
| 01:29.46 | karlpinc | mitc0185: How about backporting a newer version? |
| 01:29.47 | pparadis | have you reported the bug? |
| 01:29.54 | pparadis | or what karlpinc just said. |
| 01:29.56 | mitc0185 | pparadis: it's already been reported |
| 01:30.03 | karlpinc | mitc0185: Is there a work-around? |
| 01:30.19 | mitc0185 | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=666468 |
| 01:30.30 | mitc0185 | work-around is to install the previous version of libcairo2 |
| 01:30.44 | mitc0185 | I can do that with dpkg, but then apt won't let me install other stuff |
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| 01:31.29 | pparadis | is there perhaps a different kind of workaround? what is the exact manner in which this affects you, and what is your end goal? as in what are you trying to do? |
| 01:31.58 | mitc0185 | with 1.12.2-1, I get font smearing -- primarily on tabs in Chromium |
| 01:32.29 | jagginess | mitc0185, maybe a symlink is missing to the latest one.. |
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| 01:32.46 | squisher | mitc0185, there is a workaround suggestion in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=666468#156 |
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| 01:34.42 | karlpinc | mitc0185: The judd bot says libcairo2 can easily be backported with no unmet dependences. |
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| 01:35.26 | mitc0185 | karlpinc: backported from? |
| 01:35.30 | pparadis | http://packages.debian.org/squeeze-backports/libcairo2 |
| 01:35.43 | karlpinc | mitc0185: Somebody already did it. |
| 01:35.47 | pparadis | mitc0185: http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 01:36.06 | karlpinc | mitc0185: (Wouldn't hurt to email the bug if that fixes the problem.) |
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| 01:37.33 | grothendieck | jagginess, karlpinc: could either of you explain (perhaps again) what (if anything) about this idea doesn't work.. |
| 01:37.47 | mitc0185 | ok, I added squeeze backports |
| 01:37.57 | grothendieck | I put some LVM physical volumes on /dev/sdb |
| 01:38.01 | mitc0185 | however, it says libcairo2 is already the newest version |
| 01:38.48 | grothendieck | copy over my /home partition on /dev/sda into a PV |
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| 01:39.58 | grothendieck | boot in liveCD and repartition /dev/sda for LVM (basically wipe everything except /boot) |
| 01:40.01 | grothendieck | eh |
| 01:40.02 | grothendieck | nevermind |
| 01:40.07 | grothendieck | goddamnit I'll just reinstall debian |
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| 01:41.09 | pparadis | grothendieck: i am suddenly reminded of this --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqyc37aOqT0 |
| 01:41.46 | grothendieck | final question though -- lol |
| 01:41.48 | dvs | yay |
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| 01:43.05 | grothendieck | oh my question was this: is x86_64 better than i386 for KVM? I've always used 32-bit Debian but KVM can't do 64-bit KVM guests on a 32-bit host |
| 01:43.27 | grothendieck | but I need to compile and test some software on both 32-bit and 64-bit Linux |
| 01:43.28 | pparadis | you need a 64-bit CPU with hardware virt extensions for hardware virt acceleration. |
| 01:43.28 | brownBagSpecial | any ideas about my vhost problem above? |
| 01:44.04 | grothendieck | pparadis: I have an intel core i5 with the vme or whatever extensions |
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| 01:44.17 | grothendieck | pretty sure I can install a 64-bit OS to that, right? |
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| 01:44.30 | macondo | hi, what kernel version is debian stable using? |
| 01:44.35 | pparadis | grothendieck: i run a bunch of i7 hosts using KVM for virtualization. the host OS is debian 6 x86_64, and the guest VMs are a mix of 64-bit and 32-bit installs. |
| 01:44.58 | pparadis | macondo: are you running debian stable? uname -a |
| 01:45.00 | SiDz | is it normal that debian wheezy dont set env HOSTNAME |
| 01:45.04 | mitc0185 | ok, I think I have it figure out -- thank you! |
| 01:45.10 | grothendieck | pparadis: cool, thanks |
| 01:45.15 | SiDz | i have to put export HOSTNAME=domain.tld |
| 01:45.16 | jelly-home | macondo: 2.6.32 |
| 01:45.18 | SiDz | in bash.bashrc |
| 01:45.25 | jelly-home | ,kernels |
| 01:45.26 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.4-trunk-686-pae (3.4.4-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-3-686-pae (3.2.21-3); wheezy: 3.2.0-3-686-pae (3.2.21-3); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.2.20-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-45); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-29) |
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| 01:45.52 | macondo | pparadis: i cannot get into the X, lilo problem i just need the version to fix lilo.conf |
| 01:45.57 | ZitZ | hi, can someone recommend a good channel for "networking" help on freenode? |
| 01:46.05 | macondo | jelly-home: thanks pal |
| 01:46.18 | pparadis | macondo: lilo? what version of debian are you running? |
| 01:46.26 | jelly-home | macondo: inspect the contents of /boot instead |
| 01:46.44 | pparadis | hasn't seen lilo in many years. |
| 01:47.05 | macondo | jelly-home: thank you |
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| 01:47.19 | SiDz | ##networking ZitZ |
| 01:47.34 | SiDz | anyone on wheezy? |
| 01:47.38 | jagginess | if he does an ltrace, maybe chromium is trying to look for a path library-- one which is missing and can be resolved by making a symlink.. |
| 01:47.47 | ZitZ | geez, that's obvious, lol, i wonder why that didn't come up for me in the room list |
| 01:47.55 | pparadis | SiDz: a lot of people. |
| 01:47.58 | ZitZ | thanks SiDz |
| 01:48.14 | SiDz | is it normal that debian wheezy dont set env HOSTNAME , i have to put export HOSTNAME=domain.tld in bash.bashrc |
| 01:48.30 | SiDz | so i guess lots of people could do : env |grep -i hostname |
| 01:48.45 | SiDz | and let me know if they have something |
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| 01:49.06 | pparadis | SiDz: what's in your /etc/hostname ? |
| 01:49.13 | remote | hello |
| 01:49.17 | pparadis | and /etc/hosts ? use http://paste.debian.net |
| 01:49.18 | ManoftheSea | echo $HOSTNAME gives me something |
| 01:49.27 | SiDz | echo $HOSTNAME yes |
| 01:49.34 | pparadis | SiDz: please see above |
| 01:49.35 | SiDz | but its not set in env |
| 01:49.41 | SiDz | pparadis DonSiD.net |
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| 01:49.53 | remote | I've just install wheezy and am being prompted by gnome-keyring when I try to do a `git clone'. How can I disable gnome-keyring? |
| 01:49.55 | pparadis | DonSiD.net should not be in /etc/hostname |
| 01:50.00 | pparadis | that is not a hostname. |
| 01:50.12 | remote | I've edited out the entries in /etc/pam.d/... but it made no difference |
| 01:50.12 | SiDz | what should be in hostname!? |
| 01:50.34 | pparadis | SiDz: a hostname is the name of a system. a FQDN is the name of a system followed by its domain. |
| 01:50.55 | pparadis | SiDz: just a moment. |
| 01:51.24 | pparadis | SiDz: can you please pastebin the contents of /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts to http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 01:51.36 | SiDz | sure |
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| 01:51.39 | SiDz | wait |
| 01:51.48 | remote | I'm not even using gnome, just gdm3 and gnome-keyring is taking over my userland tools |
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| 01:52.58 | SiDz | http://pastebin.com/e9iLC7Rm |
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| 01:53.08 | SiDz | just changed the ip;p |
| 01:53.18 | pparadis | SiDz: please use http://paste.debian.net (people really don't need the slow loading and ads) |
| 01:53.27 | SiDz | ok |
| 01:53.33 | pparadis | also, it does you no good to obscure IP addresses. they are not private information. |
| 01:53.44 | pparadis | it makes troubleshooting things more difficult, so please break that habit. |
| 01:53.59 | SiDz | http://paste.debian.net/180054/ |
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| 01:54.14 | pparadis | okay, let's start with understanding what a hostname is. |
| 01:54.26 | jagginess | SiDz, why are you using ftp.us.debian.org in your hosts file? |
| 01:54.30 | pparadis | SiDz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostname |
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| 01:54.39 | jagginess | SiDz, you dont have a nameserver you can access somewhere? |
| 01:54.43 | pparadis | jagginess: nod, let's make sure he understands the basics first :) |
| 01:55.13 | SiDz | jagginess im using my own nameserver |
| 01:55.22 | SiDz | jagginess cause i want it to goes v4 |
| 01:55.23 | pparadis | SiDz: let's say i have a server. if i like planets, i might name it "jupiter.palegray.net". in that name, "jupiter" is the hostname, and "palegray.net" is the domain name. |
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| 01:55.46 | pparadis | the name of a system is a unique entity in the namespace of a network. |
| 01:56.00 | jagginess | SiDz, /etc/hosts only needs localhost and that machine's hostname if it's a static ip machine |
| 01:56.06 | pparadis | in your examples, DonSiD.net is not a valid hostname. |
| 01:56.13 | pparadis | jagginess: please wait a moment. |
| 01:56.32 | pparadis | SiDz: does this make sense so far? |
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| 01:56.43 | SiDz | yep i understand |
| 01:56.46 | jagginess | .. |
| 01:56.56 | SiDz | i changed /etc/hostname to DonSiD |
| 01:57.07 | pparadis | jagginess: i'm trying to make sure he fixes his basic misunderstanding of things first. |
| 01:57.29 | pparadis | SiDz: you shouldn't use mixed case for hostnames. just use lowercase. |
| 01:57.32 | jagginess | not much, i think i already posted my say :) |
| 01:57.32 | SiDz | so DonSiD.net is my hostname. DonSiD.net my FQDN |
| 01:57.42 | pparadis | no |
| 01:57.52 | gnarface | case folding to lower-case |
| 01:58.04 | gnarface | you can type it in that way SiDz but you should not |
| 01:58.08 | gnarface | not in config files at least |
| 01:58.11 | pparadis | ideally, things would just lc things like this, but not always. |
| 01:58.45 | pparadis | SiDz: pick a unique name for this system. you can name it "don" or "alice" or "bananapie" or whatever. |
| 01:58.54 | gnarface | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:58.57 | pparadis | there should not be a "." in the name you pick. |
| 01:59.40 | SiDz | so lets say donsid no capital letter |
| 01:59.41 | SiDz | ;p |
| 01:59.47 | pparadis | the hostname would be "bananapie", the domain name would be "donsid.net" and the FQDN would thus be "bananapie.donsid.net" <-- does this make sense? |
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| 02:00.37 | jelly-home | donsid.net.203INA50.7.16.170 # perfectly valid fdqn and also domain. |
| 02:00.44 | jagginess | he should just call his machine bananpie.localdomain |
| 02:00.53 | pparadis | if you _do_ understand this, the next point would be along the lines of what jagginess was saying. is this system assigned a static IP, or does it obtain its IP address via DCHP? |
| 02:00.55 | SiDz | i also can use donsid.net as fqdn no? |
| 02:01.00 | jelly-home | yes, you can. |
| 02:01.01 | jagginess | .localdomain implies his fqdn is never accessible from the net |
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| 02:01.07 | SiDz | not necessary to use *.domain.tld |
| 02:01.10 | pparadis | nod, let's make sure of that first :) |
| 02:01.40 | jelly-home | SiDz: correct, but then you can only have one single machine with that name in that domain. |
| 02:01.40 | SiDz | static ip |
| 02:01.41 | pparadis | SiDz: donsid.net is not a FQDN. |
| 02:01.43 | SiDz | it's a vps |
| 02:01.51 | pparadis | very good, we're making progress now. |
| 02:01.54 | jelly-home | pparadis: yes it is, look it up. |
| 02:01.58 | grothendieck | I am preparing to reinstall Debian -- I will need to keep the same SSH key, is doing this as copying my existing .ssh/id_rsa and everything directory to the new system? |
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| 02:02.32 | pparadis | jelly-home: no, it isn't, and i've had other people try to have this debate before. they didn't fare well. in this context, a server with a hostname under the namespace of a domain name, the domain itself is not the FQDN. |
| 02:02.36 | SiDz | i have 2 other Vps that are zlin.donsid.net and denv.donsid.net |
| 02:02.37 | jagginess | pparadis, he's only setting up a hosts file.. so there's no real concepts of a fqdn.. the proper name and fqdn can be placed on a single line along with the ip |
| 02:02.39 | ManoftheSea | grothendieck: .ssh/id_rsa and .ssh/id_rsa.pub are matched |
| 02:02.40 | grothendieck | and for gpg import private/public keys will work the same? |
| 02:02.46 | SiDz | im still able to ssh donsid.net zlin.donsid.net and denv.donsid.net |
| 02:02.59 | pparadis | this is a VPS sitting on a static IP, and it needs to be set up as such to reflect the proper hostname and domain name. |
| 02:03.03 | jelly-home | pparadis: there's an A record. For all intents and purposes it's a valid name. |
| 02:03.29 | pparadis | jelly-home: that is an entirely separate matter. |
| 02:03.45 | ManoftheSea | so it isn't, or it shouldn't be? |
| 02:03.49 | jagginess | you guys should rtfm.. really. |
| 02:03.52 | gnarface | jelly-home: yea but lots of auto-configuration scripts and the like break if you don't have a normal-looking hostname |
| 02:03.52 | jagginess | really really really. |
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| 02:04.11 | jelly-home | gnarface: name one, and I shall point out a buggy script. |
| 02:04.25 | gnarface | i'm sure they are bugs that's not the point |
| 02:04.36 | gnarface | off the top of my head; nslcd |
| 02:04.45 | gnarface | that's hardly the only one |
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| 02:05.12 | pparadis | jagginess: tell you what, man. you guys go ahead and keep on truckin' with this. i've only been doing this as my profession for nearly a decade. you're as mixed up on this as half the beginners i've seen hit this exact issue over and over and over again for years. the solution is quite simple, and there are standards that explain the proper way to set this up. |
| 02:05.18 | pparadis | you guys have fun. |
| 02:05.57 | pparadis | SiDz: if you need further help from me with this, just hit me up in PM. i'm not going to wrestle with this environment. |
| 02:06.09 | ManoftheSea | jagginess left. |
| 02:06.14 | ManoftheSea | I'm a little confused. |
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| 02:09.56 | grothendieck | does anybody know what config file is responsible for the files/subdirs that are automatically placed into /home/$USER? |
| 02:10.30 | grothendieck | e.g., if we don't want /home/user/{Documents,Music,Public} to be put there by default, how can that be disabled? |
| 02:11.04 | grothendieck | I thought it was /etc/skel but apparently I am mistaken -- it must come from the desktop environment since this doesn't happen on minimal Debian server installs |
| 02:11.30 | grothendieck | I've been looking for a way to disable these awful defaults for a while.. |
| 02:12.36 | ManoftheSea | grothendieck: I'd like to add a Private, which is 600 by default. If you find the answer, would you let me know? |
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| 02:13.08 | gnarface | grothendieck: which desktop environment? gnome? |
| 02:13.27 | lcc | how can I upgrade alsa via backports? |
| 02:13.39 | lcc | so cat /proc/asound/version is a larger # ? |
| 02:13.49 | sublimepua | Hey I just installed Debian testing on my laptop with an r600 card and the graphics just turn to static at boot |
| 02:13.51 | gnarface | dpkg, tell lcc about backports |
| 02:14.10 | lcc | I know how to use backports, I just don't know which packages to install. |
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| 02:14.33 | gnarface | lcc: dpkg -l |grep alsa |
| 02:15.02 | gnarface | lcc: you probably just need the ones that start with "alsa-" |
| 02:16.36 | lcc | I tried each of those with no luck. |
| 02:16.45 | grothendieck | ManoftheSea -- pretty sure 'mkdir /etc/skel/Private' will do the trick |
| 02:16.55 | grothendieck | gnarface: both xfce and gnome do this |
| 02:17.09 | lcc | I would rather not have to compile from src. I was hoping I could upgrade a package. |
| 02:17.24 | lcc | would upgrading a kernel do the trick? |
| 02:17.47 | lcc | oh, and the main problem is that I have no sound. |
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| 02:19.17 | sublimepua | Nvm I think I just needed the nonfree firmware |
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| 02:25.41 | birdinatux | My wireless worked one time after a fresh install, then I took my laptop to work and tried to connect ther and get the bad password problem. Bring it home, still doesn't connect to the router it did the first time. I do a fresh install and still no connect. Stumped as to why it worked once and not anymore. |
| 02:25.44 | unkmar | I am attempting to get a2dp function with my alsa. |
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| 02:28.58 | unkmar | I have been unsuccessful. Repeatedly |
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| 02:30.45 | unkmar | using blueman I manage to connect and get a satisfying beep through my headset. And the headset never appears as an audio device in my alsamixer. |
| 02:33.33 | grothendieck | \quit |
| 02:34.41 | ManoftheSea | unkmar: I've been having that problem with pulse recently. |
| 02:34.55 | ManoftheSea | have you tried "service bluetooth restart" |
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| 02:35.28 | ManoftheSea | I don't understand the why of it, but sometimes this causes the headset to appear as an audio device when it reconnects. |
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| 02:36.28 | unkmar | ManoftheSea: It already appears as audio sink and Headset. I have reset the bluetooth and still nothing. |
| 02:36.43 | unkmar | ManoftheSea: I am pretty sure it is a setting I need to make in my .asoundrc file. |
| 02:36.46 | ma111 | I got a bit funny question, for hunspell or ispell users, can I change the spelling suggestions to start at 1 and not at 0 ? |
| 02:37.14 | ManoftheSea | unkmar: oh, my mistake. |
| 02:37.37 | ma111 | it's not the most natural way for me to need both hands for correcting the spelling, it used be from 1 up, not its from 0 up |
| 02:38.51 | ManoftheSea | unkmar: http://paste.debian.net/180056/ |
| 02:38.56 | ManoftheSea | have you tried something like this? |
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| 02:43.05 | unkmar | ManoftheSea: I have the following: http://paste.debian.net/180057/ |
| 02:43.25 | unkmar | I am specifically trying to get pcm.h800 to function. |
| 02:44.36 | ManoftheSea | I couldn't tell you, then. |
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| 02:51.27 | terr_ | Hey guys. This is definately off topic. I'm looking to buy a used diesel pickup Chevy 3/4 heavy duty because I'm now in the bee business and I'm trying to identify the engine. Does anyone know of a channel where I can ask? |
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| 02:54.27 | gnarface | terr_: i dunno off the top of my head all i can think of is to ask in #freenode but thats possibly dumb too. |
| 02:54.45 | gnarface | terr_: you can do a string search on channel titles and topics you know though.... |
| 02:55.10 | gnarface | terr_: also debian has an off-topic channel (#debian-offtopic) here |
| 02:55.15 | terr_ | gnarface: I found #diesel. I'm looking for something like #truck or #chevy |
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| 02:55.45 | unkmar | cd |
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| 02:56.11 | gnarface | terr_: you would have better luck on craigslist |
| 02:56.16 | jelly-home | terr_: hunting for a web-based forum for, dunno, chevy pickup owners, will probably be a better idea |
| 02:56.40 | jelly-home | irc does not cover a lot |
| 02:57.05 | terr_ | I found #pickup. Its not about girls. I might have success. |
| 02:57.10 | pparadis | yeah, chevy forums would be a better bet. |
| 02:57.36 | terr_ | pparadis: been on google for over an hour. No pictures. |
| 02:58.23 | pparadis | terr_: right, which is why you want to actually inquire on said forums :) |
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| 02:58.25 | terr_ | Owner of the truck is a bee man. 78 years old. Use to run 300 hives and he is still at it. I'm going into the bee business but I still run web servers. !!! |
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| 02:59.23 | terr_ | pparadis: I've got 16 hives no and lets see only 6 servers! |
| 02:59.31 | pparadis | haha |
| 03:01.05 | terr_ | pparadis: also I got stung like about 50 times a couple weeks ago and called the health care ppl and when the nurse found out I had my hands on bee hive frames which is why I got stung because I was ripping their home appart she did have sympathy but said I'm one of the big boys. If I don't want to see a doctor that's fine! LOL |
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| 03:02.14 | terr_ | pparadis: no comments yet on #pickup so I'll try #chevy if it exists. I'll also stop spamming the channel. THanks guys. Its really appreciated. |
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| 03:03.57 | \Jan | So apparently I'm in someone's screenshot |
| 03:04.24 | \Jan | errr wrong channel |
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| 03:05.19 | terr_ | If anyone here owns a chev diesel can we go off channel and help me figure out which engine might be in the pickup? |
| 03:06.04 | unkmar | terr_: sorry, My brother isn't online. |
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| 03:06.15 | unkmar | GMC, Chevy is about the same. |
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| 03:06.51 | terr_ | unkmar: can you phone him? Can I? is only 10 cents PM to Oz and same in NA |
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| 03:07.19 | terr_ | unkmar: we should go off channel but it does look lonely in here |
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| 03:09.47 | terr_ | 9:09 PM here and 1:09PM in Brisbane |
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| 03:10.55 | terr_ | unkmar: prgrammers burn the midnight oil like no ohers because we tackle the mostdifficult problems in the world. Bees are easy compaired to unix network programming. Also they pay better. But stings do hurt |
| 03:11.38 | unkmar | terr_: yep, programmers do, mechanics only do that if they also run their own towing service. |
| 03:12.15 | unkmar | I texted him. He'll answer, or he won't. |
| 03:12.29 | gnarface | terr_: but one day you will no longer know whether the queen works for you or you for her |
| 03:12.34 | terr_ | unkmar: I have a private mechanic heavy dtuy diesel but he's so busy he can't get back to me. I hope he is making money. |
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| 03:12.50 | terr_ | gnarface: I already work for the queen |
| 03:13.41 | terr_ | Someone in #pickup picked up. |
| 03:13.53 | unkmar | and how can it only be 9pm there? That would put in some place like greenland. |
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| 03:14.17 | gnarface | lol greenland |
| 03:14.19 | unkmar | oh wait, Now, 9pm puts you 2 hours behind me. so mountain time. |
| 03:15.52 | terr_ | unkmar: you mustbe central time. Were putting in the world's largest chrome mine in cenral time |
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| 03:16.27 | unkmar | I'm Daily light savings Eastern. |
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| 03:16.47 | terr_ | unkmar: jopinm us in #pickup |
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| 03:25.23 | civillian | is LVS dead? |
| 03:25.26 | civillian | lol |
| 03:25.32 | civillian | sounds weird |
| 03:25.58 | unkmar | LVS? |
| 03:26.07 | civillian | linux virtual server |
| 03:26.34 | pparadis | if you're referring to the linux virtual server project, it's not exactly dead, but everyone i know uses other methods to accomplish those goals. so it's not exactly healthy. |
| 03:26.49 | civillian | righto, cheers pparadis |
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| 03:27.37 | Diopter | civillian: I used to work on the team that had the largest production deployment using LVS in front of it |
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| 03:28.07 | Diopter | civillian: It's pretty damn good stuff for what it is. But it's not incredibly flexible |
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| 03:35.11 | civillian | Diopter: are people using hardware devices like F5 now? |
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| 03:36.07 | Diopter | civillian: F5s, Zeus... |
| 03:36.24 | Diopter | ZTM is Stingray now, I think. |
| 03:36.29 | Diopter | They got bought by RiverBed |
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| 03:38.13 | SiDz | is bind of topic? |
| 03:39.02 | gnarface | depends |
| 03:39.06 | gnarface | are you running it on debian? |
| 03:39.21 | SiDz | sure |
| 03:39.22 | SiDz | :p |
| 03:39.30 | gnarface | are you having a problem with it? |
| 03:39.31 | SiDz | http://pastebin.com/k4cDhyjv |
| 03:39.42 | SiDz | from the logs i see, the recursion allow seems fine |
| 03:39.50 | SiDz | but i don'T get the ips from the client |
| 03:39.58 | SiDz | i dont get it:) |
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| 03:40.22 | SiDz | im on wheezy kernel 3.2.0-3 |
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| 03:41.27 | tuv | i have a machine that keeps rebooting itself every few hours. can't see anyting unusual in the logs (syslog,messages,kern,dmesg). how can i debug this problem? |
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| 03:41.50 | Diopter | tuv: Powersupply? |
| 03:42.09 | snarkpit | Hey if I need software more up to date then what's on stable, which should I go with? Testing or experimental? |
| 03:42.11 | gnarface | SiDz: you mean in those last 4 lines of that paste, you don't see IP addresses? |
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| 03:42.40 | squisher | snarkpit, backports are enabled already? |
| 03:43.02 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps, yall know of any easy to understand .deb making how tos? |
| 03:43.08 | unkmar | tuv: overheating CPU or GPU? Failing fan? failing Power supply? Failing Drive causing hiccup in the bus? |
| 03:43.21 | Eryn_1983_FL | trying to make one for source, so it can be arch independent.. |
| 03:43.51 | snarkpit | squisher backports sire? I just started using debian here the other day. Main reason I need something more up to date is iceweasel 4.0 so I can use some addons I need |
| 03:44.42 | squisher | snarkpit, http://backports-master.debian.org/ and you can always find out if a package you need is available by opening up http://packages.debian.org/iceweasel |
| 03:45.30 | squisher | snarkpit, backports are an official repository where you can find newer versions for squeeze compiled for squeeze |
| 03:45.41 | snarkpit | squisher dude thank you that is mega useful |
| 03:46.03 | squisher | you're welcome |
| 03:46.08 | snarkpit | squisher pandora and pentadactyl here I come |
| 03:46.09 | gnarface | SiDz: i'm not sure i understand what your problem is. |
| 03:46.41 | squisher | Eryn_1983_FL, easiest way to get started IMHO is to look at examples, that is use 'apt-get source' |
| 03:47.04 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
| 03:47.17 | squisher | also look at debhelper |
| 03:47.24 | squisher | it'll make writing rules much easier for simple cases |
| 03:47.37 | SiDz | gnarface when i do : host google.com ns.donsid.net |
| 03:47.44 | SiDz | from the client recursion allowd |
| 03:47.59 | SiDz | the server accept, from the log i see that, but the client doesnt get the ip |
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| 03:48.33 | gnarface | SiDz: maybe a firewall issue. make sure the DNS port is open for tcp AND udp in both directions |
| 03:48.39 | gnarface | SiDz: gotta go, sorry, good luck |
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| 03:54.40 | Eryn_1983_FL | squisher: looking at it now.. |
| 03:55.45 | darsie | night |
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| 03:57.54 | SiDz | seems like there is not exception to recursion no; in bind9?! |
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| 04:01.40 | Rusty1 | SiDz: there are #bind and #dns channels if nobody here replies |
| 04:01.57 | rgenito_ | i'm getting that apt-get install error message again.... |
| 04:01.59 | rgenito_ | E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. |
| 04:02.11 | rgenito_ | how do i get rid of that again? :D apt-get clear or somethin? |
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| 04:03.21 | squisher | rgenito_, delete the files in /var/lib/apt/lists/ and do an apt-get update |
| 04:03.43 | rgenito_ | sweet, thanks squisher |
| 04:03.47 | rgenito_ | cool name btw :) |
| 04:03.59 | squisher | rgenito_, haha, thanks |
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| 04:04.23 | rgenito_ | it's funny :) |
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| 04:05.02 | gean | squisher maybe apt-get clean can do the same? |
| 04:05.23 | rgenito_ | what?!?!? apt-get clean is an actual command?! |
| 04:05.24 | squisher | I don't think so gean |
| 04:05.28 | rgenito_ | i was thinking "clear" for some reason lol |
| 04:05.52 | gean | squisher: or something like that :D |
| 04:06.23 | squisher | apt-get clean does exists, but it deletes the downloaded packages, not the list |
| 04:07.10 | rgenito_ | ah, and my problem was the package lists |
| 04:07.29 | squisher | apt-get autoclean is useful; it'll remove packages that upstream doesn't have anymore |
| 04:07.50 | gean | squisher: you are right, I run the --help for apt-get and there is |
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| 04:08.04 | rgenito_ | squisher: remove packages that were installed? :D |
| 04:08.23 | squisher | no, it'll remove the downloaded .deb files that are not available any more |
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| 04:09.12 | rgenito_ | WHAT the! |
| 04:09.13 | rgenito_ | E: Unable to locate package htop |
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| 04:09.24 | rgenito_ | oh wait, this is one of the ubuntu machines... no wonder the problems lol |
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| 04:13.17 | sencha | Any problems upgrading to -testing from -stable right now? |
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| 04:19.21 | sney | sencha: see the topic in #debian-next on irc.debian.org |
| 04:19.32 | sencha | thank you, sney |
| 04:19.39 | sney | sencha: but generally no, as long as you aren't upgrading a hugely complex squeeze install |
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| 04:37.38 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok peeps, i downlaoded the source for openssh-server, and i need to add my patch to the source.. and then make another .deb |
| 04:37.48 | Eryn_1983_FL | do i just use quilt? |
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| 04:41.31 | squisher | EricAndrews, ideally, yes, just add the patch to debian/patch and enter it to debian/patch/series |
| 04:42.11 | eppa | 'lo…my aptitude update is hanging on console-setup. I eventually have to kill it. Googled the symptoms and there are people pushing various solutions, none of which work for me. Anyone any idea what to go is? |
| 04:42.14 | simonlnu | man quilt; you can just applies all the patches, add yours, then do quilt add or such |
| 04:42.36 | simonlnu | just apply* |
| 04:42.50 | Eryn_1983_FL | yeah |
| 04:43.03 | Eryn_1983_FL | i see this list of patched in the debian/patched dir |
| 04:43.17 | eppa | *wheezy btw |
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| 04:47.08 | Eryn_1983_FL | great they are the wrong version |
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| 04:51.36 | Eryn_1983_FL | well lets see if it works withthe new version |
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| 04:57.12 | iluminator105 | make[3]: *** [getopt.o] Error 1 |
| 04:57.14 | iluminator105 | ??? |
| 04:57.58 | boudiccas | iluminator105: its an error message, without more information unable to help you |
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| 05:01.03 | iluminator105 | http://fpaste.org/UVKN/ |
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| 05:06.57 | boudiccas | iluminator105: what version of debian? what command did you run? |
| 05:07.14 | Eryn_1983_FL | noep no workie |
| 05:07.21 | Eryn_1983_FL | i guess i will try from binary |
| 05:11.00 | iluminator105 | boudiccas, stable command make |
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| 05:13.10 | boudiccas | iluminator105: okay, what were you trying to ./configure, make, make install? |
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| 05:13.58 | iluminator105 | yep exact commands as you typed |
| 05:15.00 | boudiccas | iluminator105: and the answer to my question is .............. ? |
| 05:15.30 | iluminator105 | i got the error at make |
| 05:16.35 | boudiccas | iluminator105: we've already established that, so if you cant answer a simple question, good luck! |
| 05:18.34 | iluminator105 | boudiccas, tesseract |
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| 05:22.50 | boudiccas | ,versions tesseract |
| 05:22.51 | judd | No package named 'tesseract' was found in i386. |
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| 05:23.23 | boudiccas | iluminator105: its unsupported in debian, have you googled for the error? |
| 05:26.03 | iluminator105 | error has to do with ccutil |
| 05:26.05 | nsadmin | iluminator105, if you could do make clean and then make > build.log 2>&1 |
| 05:26.12 | nsadmin | then pastebin build.log |
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| 05:26.30 | nsadmin | we'd have a much better chance of seeing what happened |
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| 05:28.19 | iluminator105 | i am going to sleep i am pissed off b/z i cant compile this i will back tomorrow |
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| 05:30.23 | simonlnu | ,n tesseract |
| 05:30.45 | simonlnu | ,n tesseract* |
| 05:32.20 | boudiccas | simonlnu: its an OCR program |
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| 05:33.37 | simonlnu | yeh. just can't recall the ,name syntax (or there's no shortcut n) |
| 05:33.46 | simonlnu | ,name tesseract* |
| 05:34.04 | simonlnu | ,names tesseract* |
| 05:34.12 | simonlnu | bleh |
| 05:34.17 | judd | Search for tesseract* in squeeze/i386: tesseract-ocr 2.04-2+squeeze1; tesseract-ocr-deu 2.00-2; tesseract-ocr-deu-f 2.01-2; tesseract-ocr-dev 2.04-2+squeeze1; tesseract-ocr-eng 2.00-2; tesseract-ocr-fra 2.00-2; tesseract-ocr-ita 2.00-2; tesseract-ocr-nld 2.00-2; tesseract-ocr-por 2.01-2; tesseract-ocr-spa 2.00-2; tesseract-ocr-vie 2.01-2 |
| 05:34.57 | boudiccas | oh, now that is useful. thanks simonlnu |
| 05:35.04 | simonlnu | ok, so ',names' it is |
| 05:35.10 | simonlnu | np |
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| 05:45.31 | snarkpit | Hey how can I get pandora working on debian? I actually did google search and didn't find anything to help me. I'm running an updated versin of iceweasel via backports |
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| 05:49.20 | tuv | unkmar: all of these things would result in some log messages. i can't find any unusual entries in all logs |
| 05:50.19 | tuv | Diopter: i guess i can't rule that out without replacing the power supply, but the machine is behind a ups, so there is little reason for me to suspect it |
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| 05:50.46 | snarkpit | May have found my answer. Looks like it may have to do with not utilizing the non free flash plugin. Heres to trying |
| 05:51.10 | tuv | this is testing, btw. so my first suspect is the most recent kernel. just rebooted to the previous kernel (3.2.0-3). will see what happens |
| 05:51.14 | snarkpit | sw00t it works |
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| 05:54.55 | Kobzar | regards |
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| 06:15.32 | SiDz | is there a way to unfroze a frozed tun device |
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| 06:15.41 | SiDz | that wont ifdown or ifup |
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| 06:19.45 | ompaul | SiDz: what is making the tun? i.e. if openvpn restart it, however I ask you is the other end of the connection down |
| 06:20.19 | nsadmin | snarkpit, pandora.com doesnt work? |
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| 06:27.01 | rgenito__ | if anyone here could help me with this... it would be greatly appreciated :) |
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| 06:28.03 | rgenito__ | i have a verizon dsl modem, and i wanna "open" port 103 and send it to port 22 on a machine on my local network |
| 06:28.23 | rgenito__ | what about this information sounds wrong? the info: |
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| 06:29.02 | boudiccas | rgenito you may get more help in ##hardware as its not really a debian problem |
| 06:29.15 | rgenito__ | protocol TCP, start port 103, end port 22 |
| 06:29.23 | rgenito__ | port map start: 22 i guess |
| 06:29.39 | rgenito__ | boudiccas: yaa, but i figure some sys admins may be here :) |
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| 06:30.06 | boudiccas | rgenito not at 0730 they wont! :) |
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| 06:30.46 | rgenito__ | ;( |
| 06:30.52 | rgenito__ | it's not 0730 here! |
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| 06:31.43 | boudiccas | they'll all be still in bed having their beauty sleep on a saturday morning! :) |
| 06:32.23 | rgenito__ | aight how about... someone who helps me out... i'll give them 2 BTC :D |
| 06:32.30 | Calinou | "i'll give them 2 BTC :D" |
| 06:32.43 | Calinou | donates to the bukkit plugin developer then tells them to make a plugin then gets scammed then obits rgenito__ again |
| 06:33.03 | rgenito__ | ...huh? |
| 06:33.23 | Calinou | short version: hi scammer! |
| 06:33.32 | rgenito__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:33.43 | Calinou | period period period. |
| 06:33.47 | rgenito__ | welp, check me out on #bitcoin-otc .. then call me a scammer |
| 06:33.56 | rgenito__ | i'm part of the web of trust |
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| 06:34.40 | Calinou | ridiculously lols at the "web of trust" |
| 06:35.08 | rgenito__ | ah, well i take it serious, because it helps to prevent me from getting scammed |
| 06:35.28 | rgenito__ | you're just mad that you cant earn my 2 BTC :P |
| 06:38.07 | boudiccas | rgenito as i see it you have 3 options, stay here and hope someone eventually answers, join ##hardware and ask there as well, or write to teh debian users mailing list and ask them. your choice |
| 06:39.03 | nsadmin | what's a btc? |
| 06:39.37 | Devastator | bitcoin |
| 06:39.43 | boudiccas | nsadmin: i think its a sandwich, bacon tomato and cress |
| 06:40.03 | boudiccas | :) |
| 06:40.07 | Dagger2 | who would put cress in a sandwich? |
| 06:40.19 | Dagger2 | I made the mistake of eating one of those once. never again. |
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| 06:42.24 | LordShiva | guys did you had problem with smart hdd readings |
| 06:43.11 | LordShiva | I have 18 bad sectors and one funny thing currnet pending sectors count is 1 |
| 06:43.35 | LordShiva | I restarted thought it will that pending sector remap but nothing |
| 06:44.10 | LordShiva | I read that current pending sector count is sign of possible big disk problem |
| 06:44.51 | nsadmin | gives boudiccas a jam sammich |
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| 07:02.13 | tuv | nope. the older kernel didn't help. machine still reboots on its own every hour sometimes :( |
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| 07:05.35 | fredl | hmm. I downgraded my server from sid to wheezy. |
| 07:05.50 | fredl | is wheezy supported on here? |
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| 07:08.37 | pparadis | fredl: please ask your question. if you don't get an answer here, you might try again later or try #debian-next |
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| 07:08.54 | pparadis | also, downgrading is neither well supported nor advised. |
| 07:09.20 | pparadis | then again, you were running sid on a server in the first place... |
| 07:10.16 | fredl | a private server, yes. |
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| 07:11.00 | fredl | I installed sid to begin with since I wanted to run kvm on it and the libvirt pksg on squeeze were ancient. |
| 07:11.03 | fredl | :P |
| 07:11.19 | pparadis | i run kvm on numerous production hosts. those hosts run squeeze. |
| 07:11.24 | fredl | then again, I shoulda known that it's an unsafe thing to do just for libvirt. |
| 07:11.45 | ompaul | fredl: what is the real question? |
| 07:11.51 | fredl | pparadis, yup, but I wanted to have the latest versions and wasn't too aware of upstream. |
| 07:11.54 | pparadis | that's kinda what i'm waiting for. |
| 07:12.04 | pparadis | sounds like a case of SNS. |
| 07:12.11 | fredl | SNS? |
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| 07:12.14 | ompaul | oh no not SNS |
| 07:12.16 | ompaul | !sns |
| 07:12.16 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
| 07:12.16 | pparadis | !sns |
| 07:12.44 | fredl | anyway, I'm having problems with X windows. Starting it up results in a black screen. |
| 07:13.08 | ompaul | fredl: what about this libvirt thing? |
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| 07:14.08 | ompaul | fredl: if you are going to say there are 1000 small problems I'll suggest you run stable and put in the backports - remembering that the latest software is called bleeding edge, stable runs, it may not be the "latest" but what hooks were you looking for, at least stable gets security patches etc etc |
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| 07:14.38 | fredl | don't want to ask anything about libvirt ompaul. I'm by now more aware of backports/upstream/compiling things myself. |
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| 07:14.48 | ompaul | bleeding edge software is so called because it often breaks and has sharp edges and cuts |
| 07:15.02 | fredl | hang on, lemme pastebin an Xorg log |
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| 07:15.10 | fredl | any preferred pastebins? |
| 07:15.18 | ompaul | fredl: what video card - and what did you do to make X work |
| 07:15.23 | ompaul | paste.debian.net |
| 07:15.35 | fredl | it's an ATI rv710 |
| 07:15.39 | ompaul | is about to drive 20 km rather fast to pick someone up |
| 07:15.44 | ompaul | eh |
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| 07:15.52 | ompaul | how did you try to make your ati work? |
| 07:16.24 | fredl | I use the radeon driver. |
| 07:16.54 | ompaul | from |
| 07:17.00 | ompaul | !ati |
| 07:17.00 | dpkg | To use an ATI/AMD graphics card with Debian, ask me about <radeon>, <fglrx>. Installing proprietary drivers from amd.com (i.e. with the ATI Driver Installer) is not supported in #debian, please go to #ati (irc.freenode.net). |
| 07:17.17 | fredl | http://paste.debian.net/180066/ |
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| 07:17.30 | fredl | from (now) the Wheezy dist AFAIK |
| 07:17.59 | boudiccas | fred1probably with sid artifacts |
| 07:18.20 | fredl | frankly, it has not worked for a long time as this server was hooked up to my TV and I never used it much until recently and I found oout X had gone missing. |
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| 07:18.47 | fredl | may be boudiccas. Do you know how to check which pkgs are still sid pkgs? |
| 07:19.03 | LordShiva | guys did you had problem with smart hdd readings |
| 07:19.33 | LordShiva | I have 18 bad sectors and one funny thing current pending sectors count is 1 |
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| 07:20.16 | LordShiva | What tool i should use on linux to detect where are the bad sectors so I can partition around them ? |
| 07:20.27 | fredl | hmm. Interesting, I also seem to be missing 2G of RAM. |
| 07:20.30 | fredl | lovely. |
| 07:21.26 | fredl | I have a very sinmple xorg.conf http://paste.debian.net/180067/ |
| 07:21.44 | LordShiva | fredl, how missing ram ? You mean you use shared memory with your ram for your video card ? |
| 07:22.06 | ompaul | fredl: cp xorg.conf old.xorg.conf and try to restart X service xorg restart |
| 07:22.19 | fredl | LordDeath, no. When I type 'free' I only see 4GB while I have 3 2GB dimms in there. |
| 07:22.45 | ompaul | fredl: paste free please |
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| 07:23.23 | LordShiva | fredl, Why you dont try fglrx ? |
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| 07:23.47 | fredl | http://paste.debian.net/180069/ |
| 07:24.05 | fredl | ompaul, copy xorg.conf or move it away? |
| 07:24.28 | ompaul | fredl: move it away (good catch) |
| 07:24.34 | ompaul | wants / needs coffee |
| 07:24.35 | LordShiva | well free say you have 4gb of memory |
| 07:24.42 | ompaul | not 6 |
| 07:24.48 | LordShiva | try free -mot |
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| 07:25.06 | ompaul | fredl: why no swap? |
| 07:25.18 | fredl | I guess the memory is unrelated. |
| 07:25.25 | fredl | must be a dimm that broke. |
| 07:25.49 | ompaul | fredl: as I said if you have 1000 problems use stable and learn debian in detail |
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| 07:26.04 | ompaul | fredl: restart X after moving that? |
| 07:26.23 | ompaul | right I have to go - back in some hours |
| 07:26.44 | LordShiva | ompaul, I have problem with hdd drive and bad sectors can you recommend me some good utility for identifying where bad sectors are ? |
| 07:27.14 | digdilem | imo, bin the drive. |
| 07:27.30 | fredl | ugh, can't paste mroe than 89kB on paste.debian.net, my Xorg.0.log is 99kB |
| 07:27.35 | LordShiva | bin the drive ? |
| 07:27.56 | LordShiva | You meant to throw or to copy data |
| 07:27.57 | digdilem | a drive that has already developed bad sectors is, in my experience, far more likely to develop more |
| 07:28.05 | digdilem | yes, throw away. don't trust it |
| 07:28.10 | fredl | I didn't have 1000 problems ompaul, in fact I had relatively few problems and most I could easily fix myself. |
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| 07:28.51 | fredl | I've been using Debian for a long time and figured I knew enough (and had enough time on my hands :) to run Sid. Particularly the latter is in less supply lately. |
| 07:28.53 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps any prefs on pkg creation tools for debian .debs? |
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| 07:29.02 | LordShiva | Yeap but \I need to buy new for this configuration I just would like to know where is bad sector that cant be relocated and partition around it |
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| 07:29.51 | ssame | any one can help me with libapache2-mod-bw i cann't seem to limit largefilelimit largefilelimit * 500 50000 is working but largefilelimit .exe 500 50000 is not working |
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| 07:30.02 | digdilem | LordShiva, if you insist, perhaps your hdd manufacturer has a free program for download that will diag and lock out bad sectors independant of OS |
| 07:30.28 | LordShiva | Its hitachi |
| 07:30.35 | fredl | this is my Xorg.0.log after I moved xorg.conf out of the way: http://pastebin.ca/2173241 |
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| 07:31.31 | fredl | LordShiva, I'm not sure why I'd want to use the fglrx drivers while the radeon drivers are supposed to work well nowadays? |
| 07:31.53 | nsadmin | fredl, do you want 3d accel |
| 07:32.01 | fredl | yes. |
| 07:32.13 | LordShiva | fredl, ok I say because I use fglrx and it have nice 3d acceleration |
| 07:32.33 | nsadmin | radeon drivers don't give that, and maybe even fglrx not for newer cards |
| 07:32.33 | fredl | that's still not supported in the radeon drivers then? I thought I had read otherwise, hmm. |
| 07:32.47 | LordShiva | than you need fglrx for radeon cards |
| 07:33.20 | Mephisto | can anyone tell my why search doesn't find all the files? |
| 07:33.32 | Mephisto | i've had this problem before, i can't remember how i fixed it |
| 07:33.39 | Mephisto | does it have to do anything with indexing? |
| 07:33.56 | fredl | hmm okay then that may be a valid thing to pursue right now, I've used fglrx many times... |
| 07:34.40 | fredl | 'On Wheezy fglrx-driver is not available' |
| 07:34.48 | fredl | http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary/ |
| 07:35.06 | fredl | also, fglrx drivers aren't supported on here in any way are they? |
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| 07:35.33 | LordShiva | Is that hitachi become a part of western digital ? |
| 07:36.21 | LordShiva | I'm searching for tools to diagnose where the bad sector is on my hard disk and found this for hitachi http://www.hgst.com/support/index-files/simpletech-legacy-downloads |
| 07:36.36 | LordShiva | And it says Western Digital company ? |
| 07:36.43 | fredl | is it recommendable to run wheezy or is wheezy simply sid minus *some* problems? |
| 07:38.08 | nsadmin | Mephisto, what search? what files? |
| 07:38.25 | Mephisto | search tool on gnome 2. |
| 07:38.27 | Mephisto | on squeeze. |
| 07:38.35 | Mephisto | i believe it's just a frontend to console command |
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| 07:38.43 | Mephisto | and it doesn't find all the files, i just know it |
| 07:38.45 | Mephisto | just SOME. |
| 07:39.04 | nsadmin | fredl, wheezy is testing and frozen... usually sid slows down during a freeze to help support the release |
| 07:39.05 | Mephisto | it doesn't perform complete search |
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| 07:39.19 | boudiccas | Mephisto: use sudo updatedb and then locate foo |
| 07:39.27 | nsadmin | Mephisto, so, files on your hd? |
| 07:39.27 | Mephisto | boudiccas, thanks |
| 07:39.37 | Mephisto | nsadmin, yep, on the root partition by the way. |
| 07:39.43 | Mephisto | boudiccas, lemme try |
| 07:40.08 | nsadmin | usually updatedb is run at 6:30 am your time every day... |
| 07:40.18 | Mephisto | ah.. i see. |
| 07:40.23 | nsadmin | if you've added files, they won't be in locate until you updatedb |
| 07:40.23 | Mephisto | so.. it hasn't made it yet then |
| 07:40.34 | Mephisto | ok, done |
| 07:40.34 | fredl | nsadmin, that's what I recall, yes. Isn't running squeeze with some backports and occasionally recompliling some pkgs myself the.... least attention requiring way to do? |
| 07:40.35 | Mephisto | let' ssee.. |
| 07:40.36 | fredl | go |
| 07:40.45 | Mephisto | yes, worked. |
| 07:40.47 | Mephisto | Thank you very much. |
| 07:40.53 | Mephisto | now it shows all of the stuff. |
| 07:41.00 | nsadmin | fredl, probably so, yeag |
| 07:41.01 | fredl | I've had some SNS periods, yes... :) |
| 07:42.19 | fredl | hmm as I have most of my service on virtual squeeze servers, I'm wondering if instead of downgrading wheezy -> squeeze after earlier having done sid -> wheezy would be a better way to go. |
| 07:42.42 | nsadmin | fredl, if you want to you could install a wheezy on some of your free disk space and help find problems |
| 07:43.08 | nsadmin | you may or may not want to do real work on it |
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| 07:44.13 | fredl | thing is, I want this machine to be mostly stable, I had two main reasons to install sid on it, one was having the latest versions of libvirt stuff, other way to have my (then) new graphics card supported. |
| 07:44.56 | fredl | the base system really needs only support just that, good virtualization and stable hardware. |
| 07:45.39 | fredl | squeeze often seems to be behind on graphics cards though. |
| 07:45.57 | boudiccas | fredl: tried backports? |
| 07:46.09 | fredl | yeah I have boudiccas. |
| 07:47.17 | fredl | but on two occasions I have 1) gotten a new machine with a fancy display adapter, 2) installed squeeze 3) to find out the display adapter doesn't work out of the box, 4) to upgrade to sid only to see the display adapter work fine all of the sudden |
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| 07:47.36 | fredl | one time with an ATI card, one time with an nvidia card. |
| 07:48.08 | fredl | I think that's a bit of a pity. |
| 07:49.57 | nsadmin | fredl, you just described what might be called "par for the course |
| 07:50.13 | fredl | what does that mean nsadmin? :) |
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| 07:51.20 | fredl | I know Debian is (mostly) a server distro, so I understand that fancy graphics don't have priority in the stable release. |
| 07:53.08 | fasta | Since when does Redhat keep certain bug reports secret? |
| 07:53.28 | fredl | heh |
| 07:53.46 | fredl | well I'm downgrading to squeeze |
| 07:53.59 | fasta | fredl: you mean reinstalling? |
| 07:54.05 | fredl | no downgrading. |
| 07:54.19 | fasta | fredl: there is no notion of downgrading in Debian. |
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| 07:54.41 | fasta | fredl: it is a fully unsupported operation. |
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| 07:55.24 | boudiccas | !frankendebian |
| 07:55.24 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince #linux to help. |
| 07:55.54 | fasta | fredl: perhaps you want to run NixOS. |
| 07:56.07 | fasta | fredl: that supports up and downgrading in a matter of seconds. |
| 07:56.28 | fasta | fredl: only applicable if you don't depend on thousands of packages. |
| 07:56.58 | fredl | I don't want to be upgrading/downgrading in a matter of seconds. |
| 07:57.37 | fredl | I just want a stable system that support my hardware and doesn't cause me a lot of headaches. |
| 07:57.50 | boudiccas | fredl: i think you'll end up with a 'frankendebian' with artifacts from sid and wheezy |
| 07:58.28 | fredl | maybe boudiccas in that case I can always try to install a fresh squeeze on a separate partition and see if I can mount my LVM volumes and such from the old. |
| 07:58.33 | boudiccas | fredl: but i'd be delighted if you prove me wrong :) |
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| 07:59.41 | fredl | I got plenty of diskspace on this box to try several approaches. |
| 07:59.51 | fredl | and got some time to burn today :) |
| 08:01.18 | fasta | fredl: if you want that, run Windows with Linux in a VM. |
| 08:01.54 | fredl | come on fasta :) |
| 08:02.21 | fredl | you might be right but that's, that's, that's... sacrilege. |
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| 08:02.28 | fredl | besides, windows costs money. |
| 08:02.39 | xingu | evidently not enough |
| 08:03.03 | fasta | It's still hard to avoid in my experience. |
| 08:03.12 | fasta | I.e. the purchase of it. |
| 08:03.22 | fredl | not at all, haven't been running windows for over a decade. |
| 08:03.32 | fasta | It's like an STD and sex. |
| 08:04.00 | fredl | I don't agree :) |
| 08:04.01 | nsadmin | if I fire religion, eradicate it from my life completely, would that be sactrilege? |
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| 08:04.35 | fredl | nsadmin, windows has its own problems ya know... |
| 08:05.14 | fredl | sorry but I seriously think that's a silly idea. |
| 08:05.39 | nsadmin | silly is fine :) |
| 08:06.38 | nsadmin | if you play games that run on win you'll probably need for win to have access to non-virtual hardware |
| 08:06.55 | nsadmin | other than that, anything you want |
| 08:07.48 | fredl | well it's one reason I wanted to have latest and greatest KVM stuff, so I could later on add an extra graphics card and dedicate that to a windows VM |
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| 08:08.04 | fredl | however, I have never pursued it anyway as... I don't need windows. |
| 08:08.36 | fredl | so fukkit :) |
| 08:08.55 | fredl | got plenty of other stuff to worry aboout these days eh? |
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| 08:26.05 | fredl | haha so far the downgrade is proceeding rather dramatically |
| 08:26.43 | nsadmin | downgrade of what? |
| 08:27.20 | fredl | wheezy -> squeeze. I think I'm going to end up having to do a completely new install |
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| 08:28.33 | nsadmin | aha. it was -decided- and locked in a long time ago that debian would never support downgrades if something special had to be done in order to allow that |
| 08:29.21 | nsadmin | so the maints will not lift a finger to support downgrades unless they had to lift their finger anyway |
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| 08:29.48 | boudiccas | fredl: so you do have good current backups then? |
| 08:29.52 | fredl | well I wanted to try the downgrade to see if I could preserve some existing configurations but no hair off my nose if that doesn't work. |
| 08:29.58 | fredl | sure do boudiccas. |
| 08:30.14 | fredl | I may be silly but I'm not stupid :) |
| 08:30.22 | ssame | how do i install from package from testing ? |
| 08:30.32 | nsadmin | copying stuff in /etc can accomplish some of that |
| 08:30.36 | boudiccas | fredl: just checking :) |
| 08:30.56 | boudiccas | ssame: what version of debian are you running? |
| 08:31.00 | nsadmin | fredl, oh good, you have backups |
| 08:31.09 | ssame | 6.0 |
| 08:31.39 | ssame | i want to install latest apache2.2 |
| 08:31.47 | fredl | yeah and this server runs some semi-production services but none so important that I couldn't miss them for a few days. |
| 08:31.56 | boudiccas | ssame: in short you cant install packets from sid to squeeze, its a no-no! but check out the backports and see if its there |
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| 08:32.14 | ssame | :( |
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| 08:32.34 | ssame | i m having problem with apache libapahce2-mod-bw |
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| 08:33.15 | boudiccas | ssame: describe the problem, maybe we can help fix it? wont know unless you try |
| 08:33.41 | SiDz | anyone running ipv6 vpn? |
| 08:33.59 | boudiccas | !anyone |
| 08:33.59 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 08:33.59 | ssame | libapache2-mod-bw is working fine except largefilelimit is not working with file extension |
| 08:34.24 | ssame | boudiccas: largefilelimit * 500 50000 <- working |
| 08:34.32 | SiDz | can we create our own local addresse for vpn ipv6 |
| 08:34.37 | ssame | boudiccas: largefilelimit .exe 500 50000 <- not working |
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| 08:35.13 | boudiccas | ssame: hmm, dont know, maybe somebody else more knowledgeable can help? |
| 08:35.19 | SiDz | like when i create a tunnel in ipv4... i use 10.20.1.1 for example, with ipv6 can i create a tunnel with a local address, and if yes, what are the possibility |
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| 08:36.10 | ratatata | nu\ |
| 08:36.27 | SiDz | i think FC00::/7 |
| 08:36.29 | SiDz | is for local |
| 08:36.40 | xreal | Funny... source depot seems to be damaged: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-boost/boost-defaults/trunk/ |
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| 08:37.37 | boudiccas | xreal: wtf is 'source depot'? |
| 08:37.48 | xreal | boudiccas: Uhm, let me look up the english name |
| 08:37.51 | ssame | boudiccas: :( |
| 08:37.59 | ssame | boudiccas: thanks anyway |
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| 08:38.12 | xreal | boudiccas: Source Repository |
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| 08:43.19 | SiDz | seems like quicktun can't do that |
| 08:43.53 | SiDz | i can't have an ipv6 vpn without radvd? |
| 08:43.56 | SiDz | ou ra* |
| 08:43.58 | SiDz | or* |
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| 08:46.34 | nsadmin | cooperation in asking for help |
| 08:46.41 | nsadmin | !cooperation in asking for help |
| 08:46.41 | dpkg | When asking for help, try to give as much relevant information as possible as well as reading cited documentation. Ask me about <sicco> and <research>. |
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| 08:53.11 | nsadmin | SiDz, so a document was cited to you as containing material that may be helpful to you... the suggestion I would have is any question you would ask before reading is uninformed or possibly misinformed, so howbout reading first then asking questions showing you have new information |
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| 09:00.36 | fredl | LOL you're very creative in not answering questions nsadmin :P |
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| 09:04.31 | nsadmin | fredl, it's better if people who ask for help cooperate by adding to their own knowledge offline |
| 09:04.50 | fredl | just sayin', not trying to insult you :) |
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| 09:05.14 | CM-Pizarro | Hi all |
| 09:05.55 | CM-Pizarro | Anybody that has installed WebDAV? How can force the service to use my Debian system's users (/etc/passwd) so I can take advantage of the file permissions? |
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| 09:08.31 | CM-Pizarro | It seems that WebDAV uses the web server user to access the files..this is a crap, I want my Linux users to be used for such operations, otherwise I can't use my file permissions structure such owner, group, and other |
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| 09:16.34 | nsadmin | CM-Pizarro, probably because webdav runs under the web server |
| 09:17.19 | CM-Pizarro | nsadmin: right, so how is supposed to be the access security if everybody uses the same user to access the directory structure? |
| 09:18.28 | CM-Pizarro | For example, if I have in my Debian server 2 groups (admin, users), and 4 users, 2 under admin, and 2 under users.. I have in my WebDAV a structure of directories with some of them set to rwx just to members of Admin group.. how can I tell webdav to take this into account? |
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| 09:21.06 | nsadmin | maybe you need a different implementation that handles all the security issues, is stand-alone in the sense that it incorporates its own web server and runs as a user sufficiently privileged as to have full access to the files |
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| 09:23.23 | CM-Pizarro | nsadmin: but I do want users to be blocked from certain folders. I mean that I could have a folder called "Accounting" and another one called "Sales", so I want that through WebDAV only user1 and user2 be allowed to get into "Accounting", while the rest can only access to "Sales", so having a unique user with full access is not a solution in my opinion |
| 09:23.35 | nsadmin | the way things work as it stand, is, as you say, the web server runs as the web user and web group, and any user other than that can (for example) deny access to the files |
| 09:24.00 | CM-Pizarro | ok |
| 09:24.01 | nsadmin | CM-Pizarro, even if those users own the files and/or dirs you wish to restrict them from? |
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| 09:24.48 | CM-Pizarro | nsadmin: in theory the can't own any files out of the folders where they access because they will only use the WebDAV interface to create&delete files from the very begining |
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| 09:25.38 | CM-Pizarro | The idea is the following |
| 09:25.52 | CM-Pizarro | A very simple small company directory structure to share files |
| 09:25.56 | CM-Pizarro | A few folders such: |
| 09:26.16 | CM-Pizarro | Accounting, Sales, Marketing, Support, Engineering, Management, Other |
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| 09:26.59 | CM-Pizarro | There will be users that can access all of them (rw), there will be users that can read all of them (r), |
| 09:27.12 | CM-Pizarro | there will be users that can access only a few of them |
| 09:27.33 | CM-Pizarro | this is easily managed by the own Linux file system setting appropriate gouts and users |
| 09:27.46 | CM-Pizarro | my problem comes now when you put this structure under the WebDAV directory |
| 09:28.16 | CM-Pizarro | I don't find a way to still keep using the file structure permission, and the system's users since WebDAV uses a unique one (web) |
| 09:28.51 | CM-Pizarro | so I just want to be 100% sure that this is right to discard webdav and look for something else |
| 09:28.52 | blubberdiblub | maybe just try a different webdav-server, as nsadmin suggested |
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| 09:29.39 | CM-Pizarro | blubberdiblub: I missed that one, I'm using now Apache2 WebDAV module, I didn't know there were other options for WebDAV |
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| 09:31.31 | blubberdiblub | it should still be possible to integrate it with your apache, even if it's standalone, by redirecting requests from apache to it |
| 09:32.31 | CM-Pizarro | but I don't understand what you mean with "standalone", my understanding is that WebDAV is a module of the http server |
| 09:32.50 | blubberdiblub | WebDAV first and foremost is a protocol |
| 09:32.55 | CM-Pizarro | that enhances the http protocol to allow upload |
| 09:32.57 | CM-Pizarro | yep |
| 09:33.05 | blubberdiblub | it can be implemented as a web server extension or as a standalone server |
| 09:33.12 | CM-Pizarro | ohh |
| 09:33.50 | CM-Pizarro | googling no info about that only for apache, IIS, etc.. |
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| 09:34.40 | blubberdiblub | well, searching the debian package repository gives python-webdav. you will have to look into it yourself, tho, and find out if it can do what you want |
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| 09:35.12 | CM-Pizarro | yeah |
| 09:35.17 | CM-Pizarro | I also have found Zimbra |
| 09:35.24 | CM-Pizarro | of course removing all the mail stuff |
| 09:36.09 | blubberdiblub | zimbra is not in the debian repositories, tho |
| 09:36.20 | CM-Pizarro | pff |
| 09:36.41 | blubberdiblub | just saying, so that you know it will be more work setting it up |
| 09:37.39 | nsadmin | and maintaining it |
| 09:37.42 | CM-Pizarro | yes, it looks hard |
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| 09:39.34 | nsadmin | find a few more implementations maybe? |
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| 09:41.47 | CM-Pizarro | nsadmin: yeah, I'm looking for more solutions, but man, the Zimbra one looks robust if you can install it.. |
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| 10:16.58 | fredl | gosh, I thought I had a relatively small base install on the system I run my virtual machines on. |
| 10:17.24 | fredl | when you start downgrading you realize just how many packages get installed over time. |
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| 10:19.29 | nsadmin | "get installed over time" implies things like "oh, the tooth fairy was here the other day... took my wisdom tooth and left me with some packages" |
| 10:19.55 | fredl | not really. |
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| 10:20.13 | fredl | but I get your point. |
| 10:21.11 | blubberdiblub | hehe :) |
| 10:21.34 | nsadmin | it's easy to have that kind of perception if packages would automatically get installed or if you share duty as root with another person |
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| 10:22.23 | fredl | nah it's more a buildup of years on the same system. cruft. |
| 10:22.39 | blubberdiblub | debfoster, ftw |
| 10:22.50 | fredl | oh yeah I'm aware of such tools. |
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| 10:23.18 | fredl | I'm not blaming Debian, or anybody for that matter, least of all myself. |
| 10:23.45 | fredl | more a general observation on how complicated computer systems get these days. |
| 10:24.46 | boudiccas | i'm trying to see what ports are open in iptables under squeeze, using this page as a link http://wiki.debian.org/iptables, but when i do 'iptables -L' it comes back with 'command not found'. How then do i see the rules please? |
| 10:25.19 | digdilem | i think that;s a fair comment, but it's one you need to get over. I remember the dos system where I knew where all my files where, what most of them did, even the system ones |
| 10:26.06 | blubberdiblub | try it as root, boudiccas. if it's not installed, install it first. but iptables is not for seeing which "ports are open". you use netstat for that |
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| 10:26.35 | fredl | this isn't DOS anymore toto. |
| 10:26.44 | digdilem | but ofc computers /do/ more now, so need more stuff |
| 10:27.19 | blubberdiblub | oh, well, if you mean not dropped or rejected, then it's iptables, yes |
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| 10:27.57 | fredl | it's easy to try and 'clean up' and then accidentally removing a package with a funny name that doesn't look useful at all, only to find out it's important later on. |
| 10:28.09 | digdilem | yeah, that's why the good lord invented apt :) |
| 10:28.16 | fredl | hehe |
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| 10:28.44 | fredl | well outside the regular use apt also has its own complexities I think. |
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| 10:29.25 | nsadmin | yep |
| 10:29.25 | fredl | anyhoo, I'm the one trying something 'unsupported' so got only myself to blame :P |
| 10:29.36 | fredl | live and learn. |
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| 10:31.10 | fredl | kinda curious what will be the end result of this downgrade now though. |
| 10:31.51 | fredl | with apt-cache policy you can see from which repository a package has been installed right? |
| 10:32.10 | blubberdiblub | apt-cache policy <packagename> |
| 10:32.11 | blubberdiblub | yes |
| 10:32.18 | revil | hi guys! I have trouble with nvidia 302 drivers and resume. So, I created a debian package for 295-59 and I have found a pinning preference like in http://paste.debian.net/180081/ . So, how would I change the pinning to hold the packages to version 295.59-1? Is this method right? |
| 10:32.24 | blubberdiblub | well, more or less, you can see the installed version |
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| 10:33.04 | revil | btw, I'm running wheezy |
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| 10:35.00 | fredl | it really is remarkably quiet here for a channel with 1183 people on it. |
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| 10:36.19 | digdilem | the americans are still asleep |
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| 10:37.19 | simonlnu | in more ways than one |
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| 10:39.14 | jelly-home | revil: created a package? I thought there was one in squeeze-backports |
| 10:39.29 | jelly-home | ,v nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 10:39.31 | judd | Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6; squeeze-proposed-updates/non-free: 195.36.31-6squeeze1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+1; sid/non-free: 302.17-3; wheezy/non-free: 302.17-3; experimental/non-free: 304.22-1 |
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| 10:45.49 | revil | jelly-home, I fixed this.. |
| 10:46.38 | revil | jelly-home, what version was on backports? |
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| 10:47.04 | jelly-home | ^^ |
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| 10:47.29 | revil | I used a pinning like in: http://paste.debian.net/180085/ . I did an upgrade and it seems to keep my packages intact. Now let's reboot and find out! :) |
| 10:47.53 | revil | bye jellly-home! thanks |
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| 10:50.52 | boudiccas | i've created a new ruleset for iptables by copy/pasting the one in http://wiki.debian.org/iptables and i then run sudo iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.test.rules |
| 10:50.52 | boudiccas | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:52.54 | fredl | simonlnu ;) |
| 10:53.10 | simonlnu | hi |
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| 10:53.57 | revil | yay!! nvidia 302 is gone, and suspends works fine again!! so, jelly-home I could have also set-up backports and installed in wheezy the 295.59-1 version from there, right? |
| 10:55.03 | jelly-home | revil: most likely yes |
| 10:55.52 | jelly-home | revil: 302.17 had some problems with suspend, I've switched to 304.22 from experimental instead to see how it fares |
| 10:55.53 | revil | :) nice!! And the pinnings would not be necessary either, right |
| 10:55.55 | revil | ? |
| 10:56.06 | jelly-home | revil: no, you'd still have to pin |
| 10:56.09 | revil | jelly-home, does it work well? |
| 10:56.19 | jelly-home | I have no idea, just rebooted |
| 10:56.37 | revil | hm.. if you are brave, try some s2ram |
| 10:56.55 | jelly-home | pm-suspend |
| 10:56.56 | revil | searches for 304 in backports |
| 10:57.42 | revil | jelly-home, what is the relationship of pm-suspend with uswsusp? better, part of, worse, equivalent? |
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| 10:58.24 | boudiccas | i've created a new ruleset for iptables under squeeze by copy/pasting the one in http://wiki.debian.org/iptables and i then run sudo iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.test.rules but its failing at line 37 which is just 'COMMIT' how do i get it accepted please such that iptables will work? |
| 10:58.29 | suborbital | my homeys |
| 10:58.46 | suborbital | boudiccas: just backup the orginal |
| 10:58.58 | suborbital | or did you not rtfm ? |
| 10:59.16 | suborbital | yea |
| 10:59.25 | boudiccas | suborbital: what are you talking about? i'm following the wiki page |
| 10:59.38 | suborbital | did it tell yo to back up your source ? |
| 10:59.49 | suborbital | b4 you make changes |
| 10:59.49 | boudiccas | no |
| 10:59.53 | suborbital | bullshit |
| 10:59.58 | simonlnu | the COMMIT isn't essential |
| 11:00.10 | boudiccas | simonlnu: thanks |
| 11:00.50 | suborbital | uhh if you need to be taught to back your stuff idk |
| 11:00.58 | suborbital | nom sayin |
| 11:01.25 | simonlnu | EPARSE |
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| 11:06.00 | boudiccas | i seem to be stuck in a loop, when i run 'sudo iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.test.rules' it fails at line 37 which is just COMMIT. if i comment that line out and run it again, it fails by saying I need a COMMIT in it! How do i break the cycle please? |
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| 11:06.51 | suborbital | backup the orginal ? |
| 11:07.05 | suborbital | did you ? |
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| 11:08.53 | simonlnu | i don't boudiccas has an original *to* backup |
| 11:09.08 | simonlnu | boudiccas got that from the debian wiki... |
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| 11:15.39 | boudiccas | iptables is actually saying this ....... iptables-restore v1.4.8: no command specified |
| 11:15.39 | boudiccas | Error occurred at line: 37 |
| 11:15.55 | boudiccas | which is just COMMIT |
| 11:17.20 | suborbital | man |
| 11:17.25 | suborbital | hang on |
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| 11:19.44 | suborbital | http://pastebin.com/awhXPSVE |
| 11:20.04 | suborbital | nvm that hw |
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| 11:20.38 | suborbital | nvm im done |
| 11:20.55 | suborbital | goodnight. |
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| 11:21.05 | boudiccas | my iptables ruleset is at http://dpaste.com/773488/ and its not accepting the COMMIT on line 37 |
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| 11:23.03 | Apeiron` | Anyone know of an application to (attempt to) interpret a mono audio input's notes and output the result as a MIDI input? |
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| 11:40.43 | boudiccas | i think my iptables ruleset is failing because of line 17 which i need in to use gobby '-A INPUT -p tcp --dport 6522 -j ACCEPT ' . Is the rule right as i've set it please? |
| 11:41.07 | simonlnu | seems ok |
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| 11:42.04 | boudiccas | simonlnu: thats the only reason i can think of for it failing, its the only thing i've added, although i did comment out the line for SSH |
| 11:43.14 | simonlnu | and you're loading it via iptables-restore? |
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| 11:43.48 | simonlnu | it has a certain syntax |
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| 11:45.49 | project2501a | how do i tell apt get to exclude |
| 11:46.37 | boudiccas | simonlnu: sudo iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.test.rules |
| 11:48.46 | boudiccas | thats what the wiki page said, so thats what i've done. but when i try 'sudo iptables -L' it just shows the blank iptables without any rules that i've just put in, so its not being accepoted for some reason |
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| 11:50.02 | jelly-home | does iptables-restore even accept -p tcp without a -m tcp in front? |
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| 11:51.05 | simonlnu | it should yes |
| 11:51.09 | jelly-home | also why do you mix stateful and stateless ACCEPTs |
| 11:51.38 | boudiccas | jelly-home: because its a copypaste from the debain wiki |
| 11:51.54 | jelly-home | it's a wiki. It might be completely bogus. |
| 11:52.05 | jelly-home | or just partially bogus |
| 11:52.50 | boudiccas | its looking that way, its not accepting the ruleset at all. so i think i'll go and have dinner and then come back and try for another howto or tutorial |
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| 11:53.15 | jelly-home | you can create your ruleset with iptables command line manually and afterwards iptables-save it |
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| 11:53.49 | boudiccas | now i've got this ruleset to guide me, i might well try that |
| 11:54.05 | jelly-home | add one rule at a time, see what fails, fix it, repeat unitl complete |
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| 12:02.42 | user__ | I wanna to install debian on Qemu , in the server , but I have SDL error |
| 12:02.46 | user__ | how to solve it? |
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| 12:04.39 | simonlnu | jelly-home: heh, cool. i was gonna suggest that next :). |
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| 12:05.23 | jelly-home | works better when you have console access |
| 12:06.04 | simonlnu | of course ;) |
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| 12:06.51 | mcfrisk | Hello, trying to setup email for a VPS server with Debian stable. Which one is easier exim4 or postfix? With exim4-config I seem to end up with "lowest numbered MX record points to local host: etezian.org" and not able to figure out what's wrong. |
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| 12:07.24 | nsadmin | user__, if you only had the information you just presented, that exact text, could you solve it? |
| 12:07.29 | simonlnu | user__: need to be more descriptive in your issue statement |
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| 12:08.48 | user__ | simonlnu , nsadmin : I have just terminal , when I want to install debian , I see this error: Could not initialize SDL - exiting |
| 12:09.25 | user__ | nsadmin , simonlnu + could not initialize 'system_core' |
| 12:10.24 | simonlnu | is qemu-system installed? (dpkg -l qemu-system and look at the letters at the start of the line) |
| 12:11.14 | simonlnu | probably need to have your video set up properly - and *which terminal? in X? on console? |
| 12:11.22 | simonlnu | *which* * |
| 12:12.11 | user__ | simonlnu: console |
| 12:12.22 | simonlnu | sdl needs x |
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| 12:12.43 | simonlnu | needs x running |
| 12:12.44 | user__ | simonlnu: how to install x ? |
| 12:12.57 | simonlnu | aptitude install xorg |
| 12:13.03 | user__ | simonlnu: this is server , server don't need desktop |
| 12:13.07 | nsadmin | I'm out of this conversation because in order for user__ to provide one single piece of information, it requires pulling teeth |
| 12:13.28 | simonlnu | yes well you're running qemu.. run something else ;) |
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| 12:15.26 | user__ | simonlnu: then need xorg? |
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| 12:15.47 | wleslie | user__: try specifying -vnc :1 at the command line to boot it headless. |
| 12:15.56 | simonlnu | if you want to run qemu yes. look at the dependencies for qemu-system for example. |
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| 12:16.08 | simonlnu | ignore me then |
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| 12:17.52 | user__ | wleslie: no , I don't wanna vnc , I wanna just install it |
| 12:18.10 | user__ | simonlnu: then how to install? |
| 12:19.07 | wleslie | user__: you don't actually have to open the connection |
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| 12:19.48 | user__ | wleslie: now , I just wanna to install debian with qemu on the sever that hasn't any desktop |
| 12:21.47 | wleslie | user__: looks like there's a -nographic option |
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| 12:22.29 | wleslie | user__: right, but it still would have worked. |
| 12:23.26 | wleslie | Hi. I am trying to use live-build (2.0.12+2011100) to build a squeeze usb image from my squeeze system, but it seems to fail setting up grub. here is a portion of the output: http://bpaste.net/show/fFL8PlhNagJL8oozNyzH/ |
| 12:24.26 | simonlnu | ok |
| 12:25.38 | user__ | wleslie: thank you ;) |
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| 12:26.35 | wleslie | oh right, there's a * there for some reason. I wonder where that came from. sorry. |
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| 12:37.41 | b0rsuk | Hello, I'm trying to compile a small tool and I get an error about SDL.h not being found. I have the SDL1.2-dev package installed. |
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| 12:38.19 | b0rsuk | The code is here, and I just go to the dir and type 'make' http://fheroes2.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/fheroes2/trunk/fheroes2/src/tools/ |
| 12:39.10 | abrotman | paste the error paste.debian.net |
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| 12:41.33 | b0rsuk | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/180089/ |
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| 12:42.27 | abrotman | you have two of the same package? |
| 12:42.40 | abrotman | judd: file SDL.h --release wheezy |
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| 12:42.48 | judd | Search for SDL.h in wheezy/i386: python2.7-dbg: usr/include/python2.7_d/asdl.h; libcsound64-dev: usr/include/csound/csdl.h; libsdl1.2-dev: usr/include/SDL/SDL.h; python3.2-dbg: usr/include/python3.2dmu/asdl.h; libpt-dev: usr/include/ptclib/vsdl.h; python3.2-dev: usr/include/python3.2mu/asdl.h; python2.6-dev: usr/include/python2.6/asdl.h; libplib-dev: usr/include/plib/puSDL.h; |
| 12:42.49 | judd | python2.7-dev: usr/include/python2.7/asdl.h; python2.6-dbg: usr/include/python2.6_d/asdl.h; libvirt-glib-1.0-dev: usr/include/libvirt-gconfig-1.0/libvirt-gconfig/libvirt-gconfig-domain-graphics-sdl.h; libclanlib-dev: usr/include/ClanLib-1.0/ClanLib/SDL/setupsdl.h, usr/include/ClanLib-1.0/ClanLib/sdl.h |
| 12:43.26 | abrotman | b0rsuk: where is it looking for that file ? |
| 12:43.48 | b0rsuk | abrotman: Not the same package twice, my mouse is falling apart and it double clicks sometimes. |
| 12:44.07 | abrotman | ah okay |
| 12:44.23 | b0rsuk | abrotman: I don't know how to check where it's looking for the package. If I manually copied SDL.h to that dir, it passes (until next error) but there must be a better way. |
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| 12:45.33 | b0rsuk | I know neither C++ nor Makefile and I'm not sure where to ask. |
| 12:45.49 | abrotman | can you ask the people that wrote it ? |
| 12:46.08 | b0rsuk | abrotman: I can, but I find sourceforge registration highly annoying. |
| 12:46.45 | abrotman | no irc channel or anything? |
| 12:47.01 | abrotman | there used to be a #SDL, not sure it still exists .. seems like it should work if it's in a system location |
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| 12:49.06 | ansgar | b0rsuk: There's no SDL1.2-dev package in Debian. |
| 12:49.49 | b0rsuk | ansgar: Not literally, it's called a bit different like libsdl1.2-dev or something, but it does contain the file. |
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| 12:51.21 | ansgar | b0rsuk: Also you run make in the subdirectory? |
| 12:52.31 | b0rsuk | ansgar: I do. |
| 12:53.23 | ansgar | b0rsuk: I am not surprised it doesn't work in that case. |
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| 12:54.02 | b0rsuk | ansgar: What should I be doing instead ? Run the Makefile from the top level ? It compiled the game, but tools are left uncompiled. |
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| 12:54.34 | wleslie | is there a shell which is supposed to accept wildcarded path components that the live-build people use? |
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| 12:58.29 | ansgar | b0rsuk: Look at the top-directory Makefile and keep in mind you can pass variables to make (eg. make FOO=bar) |
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| 12:59.08 | ansgar | b0rsuk: And ifdef FOO meaning FOO was assigned some value. |
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| 13:02.01 | b0rsuk | ansgar: so I should use 'WITH_TOOLS'. |
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| 13:05.59 | b0rsuk | ansgar: Thank you, I figured it out. make WITH_TOOLS=true |
| 13:06.41 | abrotman | much better than my crazy ideas |
| 13:06.50 | abrotman | !ansgar++ |
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| 13:49.19 | Guest43877 | Hi, i'am trying to install the Sagem f@st modem on Debian when i try to configure it (launch ./configure) it gives me the error : "kernel-sources cannot be found!" i installed the linux-headers but still same error message. |
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| 13:51.49 | sneex | lookig in wrong spot |
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| 14:00.29 | rindolf | Hi all. I cannot boot Debian using this grub entry - the compute just gets stuck and does not respond with nothing printed on screen. I can boot Mageia Linux 3/Cauldron fine - http://paste.debian.net/180095/ . |
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| 14:00.57 | rindolf | Oh, duh. |
| 14:01.00 | rindolf | Wrong path. |
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| 14:01.26 | sneex | >< |
| 14:01.41 | boudiccas | why does this not output to a txt file please ..... sudo iptables -L>>/home/boztu/cron/iptlesrules.txt ..........? |
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| 14:02.32 | sneex | iptables is a command and wants more stull |
| 14:02.48 | sneex | try iptables-save >> /path/to/file |
| 14:03.05 | joules | anyone use mplayer for debian? |
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| 14:03.15 | boudiccas | ah right thanks sneex |
| 14:03.21 | joules | er i'm having problems with mplayer in debian, some options are missing. |
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| 14:04.11 | sneex | like? |
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| 14:05.40 | joules | mcdeint is in the manpage but not in -vf help and gives an error when its used. http://www.mailinglistarchive.com/html/mencoder-users@mplayerhq.hu/2012-07/msg00011.html |
| 14:05.45 | joules | er |
| 14:05.50 | joules | sorry about that link. |
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| 14:07.57 | sneex | weird, mine doesn't say anything about mcdeint |
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| 14:16.08 | joules | sneex, man mplayer? i'm using wheezy. |
| 14:16.15 | sneex | rgr |
| 14:16.34 | joules | its there for me, anyhow its not there in -vf help...so |
| 14:16.35 | sneex | I didnt installl it yet - new box Debian FreeBSD lol |
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| 14:17.03 | sneex | get mplayer-doc ? |
| 14:17.38 | joules | huh? |
| 14:17.59 | sneex | install mplayer-doc for more stuff |
| 14:18.20 | sneex | seb doesnt by default |
| 14:18.25 | sneex | deb* |
| 14:18.35 | joules | documentation?? |
| 14:18.40 | sneex | yes |
| 14:18.45 | joules | huh? |
| 14:18.50 | nsadmin | something you can read |
| 14:18.51 | sneex | >< |
| 14:19.05 | nsadmin | you know, read? |
| 14:19.16 | sneex | nsadmin: ows your sed? |
| 14:19.22 | sneex | hows* |
| 14:19.41 | jelly-home | joules: are you using mplayer or mencoder? |
| 14:19.55 | joules | whats documentation got to do with mplayer being built? |
| 14:20.00 | jelly-home | joules: what's the actual command line you want to use? |
| 14:20.21 | nsadmin | joules, the build instructions are in the source distribution |
| 14:20.27 | joules | jelly-home: -vf help, mcdeint isn't there, but there in the man page. |
| 14:20.34 | jelly-home | [documentation] is just nsadmin failing to do what he preaches, ie. read the user's question |
| 14:20.41 | joules | nsadmin: fuck off you trolling fuck with. |
| 14:20.47 | jelly-home | joules: for mplayer or mencoder? |
| 14:20.52 | joules | fuck off |
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| 14:20.58 | sneex | ouchies |
| 14:21.04 | jelly-home | !customer |
| 14:21.04 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 14:21.11 | sneex | lol |
| 14:21.46 | sneex | a dude helped me in #bash but HE was po'ed anyways :P go figure |
| 14:22.04 | jelly-home | at least he helped |
| 14:22.11 | sneex | yes :) |
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| 14:22.38 | jelly-home | oh it was _you_ who suggested installing docs |
| 14:22.56 | sneex | I got this new CAT out of it: this command: sed -e '$!N;$ba' -e 'P;D' -e :a -e '/^#.*\n#/d' /etc/hosts IF last two lines aren't # then is same as CAT lol |
| 14:23.11 | sneex | yes, docs are a good thing |
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| 14:23.44 | themill | !linetest |
| 14:23.44 | dpkg | You are connected t&%&ibp*l an error free line, themill. |
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| 14:23.59 | jelly-home | docs are not going to help a user asking why a compile-time option is missing |
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| 14:24.00 | themill | yep, sed and linenoise are identical |
| 14:24.08 | sneex | just because a man page says stuff doesnt mean the apps will do it :P |
| 14:24.51 | nsadmin | sneex, in debian that would be a filable bug |
| 14:25.20 | sneex | agreed but this is mplayer and a lot of apps do not match man pages |
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| 14:25.59 | sneex | so peep go away more or less happier |
| 14:26.05 | jelly-home | there's not much ANY amount of docs can do to fix Debian's mplayer missing build-time features |
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| 14:26.33 | jelly-home | so suggesting to install more prepackaged docs is completely useless |
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| 14:27.34 | sneex | docs might explain why such and such is why its that way but then again sources can be misleading |
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| 14:27.52 | jelly-home | "might" |
| 14:28.36 | sneex | so about sed; how can i not print if it is whitenoise? |
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| 14:30.48 | sneex | this prints last two lines: sed '$!N;$!D' /etc/hosts |
| 14:31.07 | sneex | But if they are not # I wants NULL, ie nothing |
| 14:31.29 | sneex | so I am off to see about sed :) |
| 14:31.32 | sneex | Cheers |
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| 14:37.23 | funky | hi |
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| 14:37.32 | funky | ,v wheezy |
| 14:37.34 | judd | No package named 'wheezy' was found in i386. |
| 14:37.59 | sney | hi |
| 14:38.53 | nsadmin | hmm, maybe he just wanted the dmm mplayer |
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| 14:39.22 | nsadmin | funky, whatcha need? |
| 14:39.29 | abrotman | ugh... |
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| 14:40.13 | funky | nsadmin: I guess I could `sed s/squeeze/wheezy/ /etc/apt/sources.list` |
| 14:40.32 | nsadmin | funky, so you want to upgrade? |
| 14:40.38 | funky | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:40.39 | funky | yes |
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| 14:41.01 | funky | that would be enough, right? |
| 14:41.10 | abrotman | !tell funky about squeeze->wheezy |
| 14:41.22 | funky | thanks :) |
| 14:41.57 | funky | no wheezy-updates then |
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| 14:41.59 | funky | ok |
| 14:42.55 | abrotman | not yet |
| 14:42.56 | nsadmin | wheezy is frozen, updates will be more rare |
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| 14:46.01 | funky | main contrib non-free, am I missing something? |
| 14:46.08 | funky | sorry long time no using debian |
| 14:46.14 | abrotman | that's all there is |
| 14:46.20 | abrotman | we got rid of non-us like 10 years ago |
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| 14:46.23 | abrotman | 12 now? |
| 14:46.36 | funky | oh, I remember that, haha |
| 14:46.38 | funky | all the crypt stuff |
| 14:47.01 | abrotman | crypto .. not the crypt function |
| 14:47.10 | jelly-home | funky: a rubber chicken to wave over the system and mumble mysterious incantations to make the switchover more smooth? |
| 14:47.43 | abrotman | funky: and if you come back in an hour whining about gnome3, we researve the right to smack you :) |
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| 14:48.13 | funky | nah, long time no using debian, but not using linux |
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| 14:48.38 | funky | I know how gnome3 stinks |
| 14:49.17 | funky | anyway this is a mini-server, no X |
| 14:49.31 | abrotman | it's not public is it? |
| 14:49.38 | funky | home server |
| 14:49.47 | funky | google -> soekris 4801 |
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| 14:50.09 | funky | it barely handles what I need, toooo modest hw |
| 14:50.37 | abrotman | just should note that wheezy doesn't have real security support yet |
| 14:51.03 | jelly-home | s/real/any kind of/ |
| 14:51.14 | abrotman | the URL works! |
| 14:51.27 | nsadmin | funky, is this home server behind a masq? |
| 14:51.27 | funky | I'm reading from dpkg <testing security> |
| 14:51.36 | jelly-home | I can give you another URL that works! It'd be NSFW |
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| 14:51.48 | funky | nsadmin: yup |
| 14:51.52 | abrotman | jelly-home: just saying they've put the URL there, but there won't be any updates |
| 14:52.36 | jelly-home | funky: testing security never really happened, there's been a couple updates back in what, 2010? When people felt enthusiastic |
| 14:52.47 | nsadmin | then you should be ok, scaled by how secure your router is |
| 14:53.02 | SomeoneWeird | So I have an internal hdd that im connecting to my computer using a sata<->usb converter, its not showing up and in dmesg it says [ 518.884590] usb 3-1.2: device descriptor read/64, error -32 anyone got any ideas? |
| 14:53.06 | abrotman | jelly-home: i know .. |
| 14:53.19 | abrotman | jelly-home: back when that CUT thing was all teh rage :) |
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| 14:53.29 | abrotman | SomeoneWeird: uname -r |
| 14:53.43 | raboof | my ~/.xsession-errors shows 'NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidiactl (No such device or address).' |
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| 14:53.59 | raboof | what application causes this message? can that device exist at all when i'm using the nouveau drivers? |
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| 14:55.30 | Xillie | Hello, I need help with kernel panic when modprobing aha1542 ISA scsi adapter |
| 14:56.37 | abrotman | like the "Hi, it's 1993" ISA? |
| 14:56.42 | nsadmin | Xillie, that's one of adaptecs first scsi card |
| 14:56.55 | Xillie | I know, it has enormous emotional value |
| 14:57.02 | Xillie | could be 92 as well:) |
| 14:57.11 | abrotman | i was generalizing! |
| 14:57.12 | SomeoneWeird | lma |
| 14:57.13 | SomeoneWeird | o |
| 14:57.26 | abrotman | Xillie: is it isapnp or jumpered? |
| 14:57.36 | Xillie | the only thing it works for is cdda in vlc......accessing files on drives or cds makes kernel panic.... |
| 14:57.42 | nsadmin | not sure squeeze would work on the rest of the machine... how much ram? which cpu? |
| 14:57.45 | Xillie | this is the 1542c pnp |
| 14:58.02 | Xillie | k6-2 pimped in a p1 board with intel 430tx |
| 14:58.13 | abrotman | and you've done the fiddling with the isapnp tools (if they even still exist) |
| 14:58.16 | Xillie | many versions of this driver have known bugs |
| 14:58.33 | Xillie | the module gets loaded succesfully with correct irq and dma..... |
| 14:58.43 | Xillie | its when I access files on mounted drives it hangs |
| 14:58.45 | abrotman | oh, just in certain situations, it crashes? |
| 14:59.27 | Xillie | well...any time I want to transfer data.....only circumstance that doesnt give crash is when I use vlc to extract audio from a scsi cdromdrive |
| 14:59.29 | jelly-home | heheh, k6-2 PIMPED |
| 15:00.18 | Xillie | the 1.6V support for CPU on the board is "experimental, for future K6 processors" hehe |
| 15:00.28 | abrotman | what could go wrong |
| 15:00.32 | jelly-home | considers mailing Xillie a crapold PCI Adaptec just to shut him up |
| 15:00.34 | abrotman | Xillie: what is your current kernel ? |
| 15:00.43 | Xillie | besides this, installing debian worked well and it works well |
| 15:00.45 | nsadmin | how much ram? |
| 15:00.50 | Xillie | uuh, latest 2.6 486? |
| 15:00.50 | abrotman | ... |
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| 15:00.54 | Xillie | 128mb ram |
| 15:01.06 | abrotman | the amount of RAM is irrelevant |
| 15:01.19 | abrotman | Xillie: from squeeze? the 2.6.32-5-486 ? |
| 15:01.21 | Xillie | I had a strange bug btw, when reboot after install it said grub: unknown partition |
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| 15:01.49 | nsadmin | abrotman, you know that's not true... below a certain threshold, the kernel won't even fit |
| 15:01.52 | Xillie | turned out the bios autodetects primary master as "LRG"......fixing it as "LBA" made grub boot from it |
| 15:02.20 | Xillie | actually, the system works great, vesa support on a rendition verite I believe |
| 15:02.26 | abrotman | nsadmin: the system boots, he's said that multiple times |
| 15:02.35 | abrotman | he can even use the card in certain situations |
| 15:02.44 | Xillie | Ive been serving neverwinter nights on it! |
| 15:02.45 | fredl | hmm the squeeze installer is giving me problems |
| 15:03.14 | Xillie | the internet is full of years of bugreports on aha142.c, kernel panics |
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| 15:03.28 | abrotman | Xillie: and probably not too many fixes because no one uses those anymore ... |
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| 15:03.56 | fredl | it's starting to be less amusing. All I'm trying to do is reuse some existing logical volumes, a swap space and a newly formatted root filesystem (lvm as well) |
| 15:03.59 | Xillie | hehe exactly....many bugreports end with "Im sorry Im no longer able to test this as I have no ISA based systems anymore" lol |
| 15:04.19 | nsadmin | being an isa card, hardly anyone has a machine with isa slots |
| 15:04.25 | abrotman | has one |
| 15:04.33 | nsadmin | wwhy? |
| 15:04.34 | abrotman | eh .. and i could get another |
| 15:04.35 | Xillie | anyway, thumbs up for debian installed as easy as it did, ubuntu now requires p2 or even p3 cpus |
| 15:04.46 | abrotman | because it still works, and it was my first PC that was my own |
| 15:04.56 | Xillie | unless you work with custom kernel I suppose... |
| 15:05.20 | jelly-home | abrotman: and you didn't have any family or friends to unload it to in time |
| 15:05.31 | abrotman | Xillie: you could check the changelog for the 3.2.x that's in backports.debian.org, but i doubt it would have many/any fixes |
| 15:06.15 | abrotman | jelly-home: i used it for quite some time, poor Uni student and all. I retired it when I got an HP NetServer, and then replaced that with a P4 a couple years later |
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| 15:06.50 | abrotman | yes, I used a 486 DX2/66 til 2000-2001 |
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| 15:07.35 | abrotman | waits for masochism jokes now .. |
| 15:08.03 | Xillie | abrotman: thanks, I may have a check |
| 15:08.08 | nsadmin | I had an asus sp3g with a 486 dx4 100 and it had neomagic scsi on the mobo |
| 15:08.16 | abrotman | Xillie: did it work with lenny ? |
| 15:08.20 | abrotman | or less crashy ? |
| 15:08.21 | Xillie | asus made 486 boards? |
| 15:08.28 | nsadmin | yep |
| 15:08.41 | Xillie | I dont know its been lying in my basement for some years now |
| 15:08.43 | abrotman | toward the end of 486 |
| 15:09.06 | Xillie | My earliest asus , still ahve it, is p5a supersocket7, it has a k6-3 in it hehe |
| 15:09.50 | Xillie | its still itneresting to benchmark that setup against this k6-2 on a 66(83) mhz p1 board, if you are crazy like me |
| 15:10.40 | Xillie | by selecting a multiplier of 2 on the p1 board, the cpu takes it as x6, running at 400 with 66 mhz and 500 with 83 mhz, 450 with 75 |
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| 15:11.30 | Xillie | This 2gb scsi-2 disk makes incredible, totally incredible noise, how could I have ever worked with that? |
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| 15:12.44 | sney | if you put some rubber or foam in between the drive and where it attaches to the case, it'll reduce the noise noticeably |
| 15:13.01 | sney | this is why so many scsi drive spuds have shock absorbent materials built right in |
| 15:13.06 | Xillie | it comes from within the drive.....very sharp.... |
| 15:13.32 | Xillie | it also makes the noise when I hold it in my hand |
| 15:13.47 | Xillie | heh it brings back memories of headaches |
| 15:13.48 | abrotman | Xillie: you can still find lenny installation media if you want to try it |
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| 15:14.00 | sney | disk access clicks, yep, the foam still helps cut down on that noise (to understand why, try ringing a bell when you're touching the resonant part) |
| 15:14.19 | fredl | damn this installer :( |
| 15:14.24 | Xillie | it sounds like a sharp saw |
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| 15:14.50 | nsadmin | Xillie, that could be a head crash |
| 15:15.04 | Xillie | abrotman: I was very pleased to see an uptodate version succesfully installing |
| 15:15.17 | Xillie | also, not gonna use this saw hd anyway lol |
| 15:16.30 | Xillie | also, I do believe ISA is bad for general performance....and to my surprise a 6gb HD attacked to onboard ATA is being recognised as truely UDMA/2 |
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| 15:16.51 | fredl | for some reason the installer cannot use an entire volume group from my previous install. |
| 15:17.03 | Xillie | first time I ever have seen bugfree UDMA support on a true pentium 1 board |
| 15:17.12 | nsadmin | isa is 8 bit or 16 bit |
| 15:17.19 | fredl | of course it doesn't give any meaningful error message except in the console where it gives a kernel trace :/ |
| 15:17.33 | Xillie | doesnt the "ISA to PCI" bridge slow your chipset down? |
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| 15:18.19 | Xillie | asin keeping it busy with pci latency busmatering blabla?:) |
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| 15:19.15 | Xillie | its nice to be able to extract audio cd, thats all I wanted scsi for actually |
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| 15:19.31 | Xillie | strange how that doesnt cause panic |
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| 15:21.46 | Xillie | Are there any console games that output graphics to /dev/fb0? like you dont need X for it? |
| 15:22.11 | break19 | yes |
| 15:22.27 | Xillie | how do I google those? |
| 15:22.27 | nsadmin | there was a lib that did console graphics, for example the original doom used it |
| 15:22.59 | grepper | Hi all. How to I change the password for gnome-keyring ? (I'm using xfce4 not gnome) |
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| 15:23.17 | break19 | "linux framebuffer games" or "linux svgalib games" |
| 15:23.35 | Xillie | svgalib doesnt necessarily mean X? |
| 15:23.53 | nsadmin | thats the name |
| 15:23.58 | nsadmin | it didn't use x at all |
| 15:24.03 | jabbott | Hello, I am attempting to install Debian with a system that has a Broadcom NetExtreme BCM5720 10/100/1000Mbps network card. It's unable to detect it. What should I do? |
| 15:24.05 | Xillie | does svgalib work on vesa support? |
| 15:24.13 | break19 | svgalib only is X when you use the svgalib xorg driver :P |
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| 15:24.28 | Xillie | right thanks break19 |
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| 15:34.30 | fredl | shouldn't vgscan check all disks? |
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| 15:35.24 | nsadmin | you need tomake the kernel aware of the pvs first |
| 15:35.27 | fredl | the debian installer does see an old volume group but for some reason I can't use it. If I proceed with the install on a volume that has no traces of the old volumes, and then do vgscan, it does not see it. |
| 15:35.57 | fredl | shouldn't pvscan see that? |
| 15:36.14 | jabbott | Hello, I am attempting to install Debian with a system that has a Broadcom NetExtreme BCM5720 10/100/1000Mbps network card. It's unable to detect it. What should I do? |
| 15:37.54 | fredl | nsadmin - pvscan is supposed to scan all disks for existing pvs. I see only one though while I should see two. |
| 15:38.24 | fredl | hmm |
| 15:38.43 | fredl | I think I know what's going on but... that would be strange I think. |
| 15:38.53 | sney | jabbott: use the firmware installer |
| 15:39.01 | sney | !tell jabbott about firmware image |
| 15:39.03 | fredl | the other pv's are on dmraid'ed disks |
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| 15:40.51 | jabbott | thanks sney |
| 15:42.07 | sney | np |
| 15:42.22 | nsadmin | fredl, so then you would have to start the dmraid |
| 15:43.28 | nsadmin | and then do pvscan which should then see the dmraided pv |
| 15:43.45 | fredl | yeah got that far but I'm seeing an inactive md device |
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| 15:47.14 | fredl | there that talks easier... |
| 15:47.34 | fredl | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:48.04 | fredl | I'm not sure why they're inactive... or how to activate them again |
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| 15:52.34 | fredl | can anybody help me with this? |
| 15:52.37 | jabbott | sney, it keeps on looping to the screen "Detect Network Hardware" when I run that .iso |
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| 15:53.54 | fredl | I have two raid partitions, /dev/sda2 and /dev/sdb2 |
| 15:54.38 | fredl | to me it looks like /proc/mdstat has incorrect information though |
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| 15:55.07 | fredl | I'm invisible or something? |
| 15:55.10 | sney | jabbott: anything relevant in the error console? |
| 15:55.32 | sney | fredl: most md administration tasks can be done with mdadm |
| 15:55.39 | boudiccas | fredl: no, but i know nowt about raid |
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| 15:56.13 | fredl | sney - I'm sure it can and I've done it a long time in the past. |
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| 15:56.28 | BlitzHere | Quick question. Does the netinstall cd work with USB tethering or does it work only with Ethernet connections? Can I use my android to USB tether during install? |
| 15:56.46 | fredl | now I installed squeeze on a newly created logical volume but it appears to no longer recognize my existing md set. |
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| 15:57.17 | boudiccas | BlitzHere: USB tethering? please explain |
| 15:57.28 | fredl | so I'd like to know how to recreate it without trashing it accidentally. So not a good moment to start experimenting by myself. |
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| 15:58.34 | tremon | fredl: paste /proc/partitions and /proc/mdstat (and /msg dpkg paste) |
| 15:58.44 | ManoftheSea | usb-tethering would be to use the cell phone as a ppp connection. |
| 15:59.04 | tremon | fredl: does the squeeze boot at all or are you in a rescue environment? |
| 15:59.25 | fredl | tremon - it's up and running from the lv I created in another vg |
| 15:59.28 | jabbott | hw-detect: FATAL: Module i82365 (PCMCIA bridge module) not found. |
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| 16:00.32 | fredl | http://paste.debian.net/180106/ |
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| 16:01.19 | fredl | unless I'm mistaken in interpreting /proc/partitions, it looks like the kernel thinks there is no /dev/sda2 and /dev/sdb2 ? |
| 16:01.25 | jabbott | sney, looks like the the pcmcia bridge i82365 isn't found |
| 16:02.14 | tremon | fredl: that's correct, but not surprising given that sda and sdb are in an intel software-raid configuration |
| 16:02.17 | sney | it's a pcmcia card? |
| 16:02.36 | fredl | tremon - they're not AFAIK |
| 16:02.36 | tremon | fredl: probably you will find in dmesg a message like sda: unknown partition table |
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| 16:02.38 | sney | jabbott: maybe just install from CD-1 and set networking up afterwards. |
| 16:02.54 | jabbott | no It's an onboard dual Broadcom BCM5720 10/100/1000Mbps Network card |
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| 16:03.02 | fredl | http://paste.debian.net/180107/ |
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| 16:03.32 | rindolf | Hi all. How can I install a CPAN package along with all of its dependencies as .debs on Debian Testing? This is straightforward on Mageia, but I don't think it's possible on Debian. |
| 16:03.37 | fredl | tremon - I believe I made those partitions on Sid |
| 16:03.40 | BlitzHere | boudiccas: Androids have an option to share their internet connection via USB cable. I am going somewhere where I have a laptop but no Ethernet connection. I get my connectivity on that laptop using USB tethering. I was wondering if the network installer will recognize that... |
| 16:03.43 | tremon | fredl: well /proc/mdstat seems to suggest that they are detected like that (external:imsm is intel matrix storage manager) |
| 16:04.06 | tremon | fredl: but since it's inactive the kernel won't do anything with them, so no harm done |
| 16:04.29 | boudiccas | BlitzHere: does the bios recognise USB? |
| 16:04.43 | fredl | kernel log says a bizarre thing |
| 16:04.46 | fredl | Jul 21 17:32:46 omega kernel: [ 6.628087] sdc: sda1 sda2 |
| 16:04.55 | fredl | wtf... |
| 16:05.02 | BlitzHere | Yes, there are options for USB boot |
| 16:05.03 | tremon | huh... |
| 16:05.23 | BlitzHere | boudiccas: like USB HDD, USB cd etc. |
| 16:05.46 | boudiccas | BlitzHere: still going to dump debian and move onto another distro in the near future? :) |
| 16:05.47 | tremon | hmm... not familiar with that. can you look at /dev/disk/by-id and compare the serial numbers of sda and sdc |
| 16:05.53 | fredl | tremon http://paste.debian.net/180108/ |
| 16:05.58 | jabbott | I keep on getting FBIOBLANK: INvalid Argument |
| 16:06.45 | tremon | fredl: can you paste your full dmesg? |
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| 16:06.57 | fredl | sure |
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| 16:07.07 | tremon | fredl: also, how many disks do you really have in that system? |
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| 16:07.52 | fredl | Problem occurred while loading the URL http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 16:07.52 | fredl | URL cannot be shown |
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| 16:08.04 | fredl | I have 4 internal disks, one external USB |
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| 16:08.52 | tremon | fredl: just try again, never seen that message before on p.d.n |
| 16:09.13 | fredl | I get it constantly and tried several times. |
| 16:09.30 | tremon | hmm... try another pastebin ? |
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| 16:10.43 | fredl | get the same message on pastebin.ca, wondering if its the browser. |
| 16:10.54 | ompaul | fredl: close it and try again |
| 16:11.26 | fredl | same thing |
| 16:11.44 | fredl | lemme try iceweasel |
| 16:12.05 | BlitzHere | boudiccas: what? No. I have been distro hopping like crazy but debian has become my fallback in all this distro hopping |
| 16:12.51 | fredl | well. using iceweasel paste.debian.net silently ignored my post |
| 16:13.33 | BlitzHere | boudiccas: I tried lubuntu, xubuntu, zorin light, bodhi, puppy, pclinux os lxde, openSUSE lxde and crunchbang |
| 16:13.42 | tremon | hmm... weird characters in dmesg maybe? |
| 16:13.52 | fredl | and with iceweasel I can't click on 'upload a file' on pastebin.ca |
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| 16:13.59 | tremon | can't think of a reason why that would be though... |
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| 16:14.09 | boudiccas | BlitzHere: sheesh, you have been busy! |
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| 16:14.25 | BlitzHere | boudiccas: crunchbang was the closest to what I wanted to do, but I still would rather do the config myself |
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| 16:15.06 | fredl | echo "lala" >trala |
| 16:15.17 | fredl | I just tried to upload that file on paste.debian.net |
| 16:15.22 | fredl | silently ignored. |
| 16:15.23 | BlitzHere | boudiccas: I'm downloading fedora 17 netinstall now. That'll be probably be the last one for now.. |
| 16:15.33 | fredl | oh.. |
| 16:15.36 | fredl | Thanks to some spammers you need to provide at least 3 or two linebreaks |
| 16:15.39 | fredl | grrrr |
| 16:16.21 | fredl | maybe 69kB is too large?? |
| 16:17.22 | fredl | I'm getting extremely tired with this :( |
| 16:18.05 | tremon | let me try |
| 16:18.16 | fredl | I'm installing chromium |
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| 16:18.58 | tremon | I get "Length of code is not allowed to exceed 89kB" on paste.debian.net |
| 16:19.25 | tremon | fredl: only the first few 100 lines will probably do, not sure why your dmesg is so large |
| 16:19.40 | fredl | 69k is large? |
| 16:19.47 | enr1x | hello everyone! i am getting this error when i'm connecting from my symbian phone (E66) to my imaps server. http://pastie.org/private/cbv36sdal8bkeft1efddw. i a using debian squeeze so apparently everything's very stable. however, is this error related to an openssl bug or the actual implementation of ssl on the phone? |
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| 16:20.07 | tremon | fredl: larger than strictly boot logging |
| 16:20.24 | tremon | mine are way larger (128k) because of selinux and iptables logging though |
| 16:20.37 | enr1x | connecting from any other device works perfectly by the way |
| 16:20.39 | fredl | wait, duh |
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| 16:20.45 | fredl | I can't read it. |
| 16:20.47 | fredl | fubar |
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| 16:22.13 | fredl | aha |
| 16:22.16 | enr1x | here's the paste.debian.org link: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/004b6fba/ |
| 16:22.16 | fredl | http://paste.debian.net/180113/ |
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| 16:22.41 | fredl | dinner's served though, bbl |
| 16:23.08 | pc_magas | Hi how can I set phpmyadmin to use ssl on debbian 6? |
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| 16:26.14 | enr1x | pc_magas: pc_magas http://wiki.phpmyadmin.net/pma/Config#ssl |
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| 16:32.30 | tremon | fredl: it's probably not the source of the problem, but the disks at ata4 and ata6 have HPA (host-protected area) enabled (of slightly over 1MB). Maybe that's what's tripping up the imsm detection |
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| 16:34.31 | tremon | fredl: and the sdc: sda1 sda2 looks like a cosmetic error, looking at the surrounding lines, sdc1 and sdd1 are detected just fine |
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| 16:41.53 | oliiver | hi, I run debian wheezy (kernel 3.2) on my dell xps 14z... but I have problems with the tempratures I think, the temprature in idle is ~55C and with chrome and skype open it can reach 70C |
| 16:41.59 | oliiver | that can't be normal? |
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| 16:43.15 | tremon | fredl: md: bind<sdb> and md: bind<sda> <-- here's the "problem": because md detects the drives as imsm, it will claim the full drives and the kernel will not allow access to the partitions on the drives |
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| 16:45.00 | tremon | fredl: so the solution is either a) if you are 100% certain that you did not have imsm raid on the disks, find a way to prevent misdetection. That will probably involve zeroing the HPA, but I have no experience with imsm |
| 16:45.48 | fredl | tremon - was just thinking about this over dinner and I think I may know what's the prob |
| 16:46.28 | fredl | tremon - to do a fresh install, I connected my CDROM drive which had been disconnected for some time as I never used it and ran out of cable. |
| 16:46.55 | fredl | I just connected it to a SATA port without giving it any thought but I'm thinking it might have messed up the disk names? |
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| 16:47.14 | tremon | or b) you need to reactivate the array, which means clearing the (S)pare status on both drives (may be as simple as mdadm --examine --scan) |
| 16:48.04 | fredl | hmm that gives some output I don't understand |
| 16:48.06 | tremon | fredl: could be, but linux md doesn't care about disk names, it uses partition uuids. Not sure how imsm detects its raid parts |
| 16:48.19 | fredl | http://paste.debian.net/180116/ |
| 16:48.42 | fredl | still inactive though |
| 16:48.55 | tremon | add those two lines to /etc/mdadm.conf |
| 16:49.31 | fredl | they're already in there |
| 16:49.38 | tremon | then try to start it with mdadm -A /dev/md/Volume0 |
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| 16:50.05 | tremon | oh... weird that the array was detected as stopped then |
| 16:50.22 | fredl | theres only a /dev/md/imsm0 |
| 16:50.24 | tremon | are the drives still listed as spares (S) in /proc/mdstat? |
| 16:50.43 | tremon | and if you try to mdadm -A /dev/md/imsm0 ? |
| 16:50.51 | fredl | mdadm: /dev/md/imsm0 not identified in config file. |
| 16:50.59 | tremon | lol... |
| 16:51.11 | tremon | edit the config file, change volume0 into imsm0 ? |
| 16:51.14 | fredl | yeah... hairpulling :P |
| 16:51.19 | tremon | that's a guess though... |
| 16:51.36 | fredl | uhm... not going there :) |
| 16:51.45 | fredl | data's a bit to important to hose |
| 16:52.03 | fredl | uhm |
| 16:52.07 | fredl | okay |
| 16:52.11 | fredl | so I did try it :P |
| 16:52.20 | tremon | ok, understandable. Maybe there's a dedicated #mdadm list somewhere? |
| 16:52.26 | tremon | s/list/channel/ |
| 16:52.42 | fredl | no error message on mdadm -A |
| 16:52.53 | tremon | what does /proc/mdstat show? |
| 16:53.00 | fredl | same |
| 16:53.46 | fredl | I'm gonna reboot and disconnect that CD drive |
| 16:53.48 | fredl | brb |
| 16:54.21 | Guest63593 | can somebody help me please ? i want log all outgoing an incomming data from /dev/ttyusb0 |
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| 16:58.10 | fredl | still doesn't seem to have changed things :/ |
| 16:58.40 | tremon | ok... still all spares then? paste mdadm --detail /dev/md/imsm0, and mdadm --examine /dev/sda, mdadm --examine /dev/sdb |
| 16:58.58 | tremon | (assuming the array is still named /dev/md/imsm0) |
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| 17:00.27 | fredl | http://paste.debian.net/180117/ |
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| 17:01.55 | fredl | to me... that looks 'normal' doesn't it? |
| 17:02.02 | tremon | that output suggests that both legs are active... does /proc/mdstat still list them as (S)pares? |
| 17:02.36 | fredl | yes :( |
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| 17:05.04 | fredl | I'm also not sure why they're listed as Intel Raid ISM Cfg Sig. to the best of my knowledge I did not do that. |
| 17:06.22 | tremon | fredl: can you try to fdisk -l /dev/md/imsm0 ? That should produce an io error if the array is really inoperational... |
| 17:06.48 | fredl | doesn't say anything at all |
| 17:06.54 | oliiver | hi, is something wrong with my laptop webcam when I run the computer with charger... it drains very much power even when I not use it https://dl.dropbox.com/u/72255548/powertop.png |
| 17:06.58 | oliiver | look at the top |
| 17:07.00 | tremon | https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID_setup suggests mdadm --detail-platform to query the bios raid information |
| 17:07.17 | fredl | when I try fdisk /dev/md/imsm0 it says /dev/md/imsm0 |
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| 17:07.50 | fredl | but it's not a BIOS raid. |
| 17:07.59 | joar | What's the name of the Java browser plugin in Wheezy? |
| 17:08.02 | tremon | fredl: I'm still assuming the array really is an imsm array even though you can't remember doing so, I wouldn't know how to prevent the imsm detection |
| 17:08.09 | boudiccas | what log has messages from teh firewall in please in squeeze? |
| 17:08.13 | fredl | ok. |
| 17:08.29 | boudiccas | joar: iced-tea? |
| 17:08.35 | joar | the proprietary |
| 17:08.37 | enr1x | is installing wheezy on a mail server a good idea? looks like it would be alright as wheezy is frozen already... |
| 17:08.45 | tremon | fredl: you may want to ask the mdadm mailing list about option a) |
| 17:09.33 | dawud | ,versions flashplugin-nonfree |
| 17:09.34 | judd | Package: flashplugin-nonfree on i386 -- squeeze/contrib: 1:2.8.2; lenny-backports/contrib: 1:2.8.3~bpo50+1; sid/contrib: 1:2.8.5; wheezy/contrib: 1:2.8.5 |
| 17:09.39 | dawud | joar ^^ |
| 17:09.44 | joar | dawud: that's flash. |
| 17:10.01 | dawud | ah sorry |
| 17:10.04 | joar | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/install-java-on-wheezy-928296/#post4597193 |
| 17:10.23 | joar | boudiccas: ^^ seems openjdk and icedtea is the right thing. |
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| 17:11.15 | dawud | joar according to my jinfo its plugin mozilla-javaplugin.so /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/IcedTeaPlugin.so |
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| 17:11.30 | fredl | thanks for your help tremon. |
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| 17:12.11 | dawud | joar: ...but you want the non-free, right? |
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| 17:12.48 | joar | dawud: Yeah, I though icedtea would be like gnash, but it exceeded my expectations :) |
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| 17:13.09 | dawud | joar: ok then |
| 17:13.40 | joar | dawud: still, thanks :) |
| 17:14.24 | iadoshev | Hi everybody. How can i create iso larger than 650 MB with simple-cdd? SIZELIMIT does not working and i can't find any occurrence of this parameter in sources. |
| 17:14.57 | sneex | dd one first? |
| 17:15.18 | sneex | I always cheat :P |
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| 17:18.46 | fredl | tremor - https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID_setup says 'In this example we created an IMSM based container for 4 RAID devices. Now we can create volumes within the container. |
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| 17:19.09 | fredl | I'm wondering if this is something experimental Sid did to my md device. |
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| 17:19.39 | fredl | I think I better go ask on OFTC |
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| 17:20.30 | tremon | fredl: mdadm --create is a potentially destructive operation, i might hope neither sid nor the installer would do that without being instructed |
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| 17:21.39 | navaati | hi |
| 17:22.02 | fredl | me either, but if I recall, at the time of installing this server which is some 3 years ago now I installed Sid from scratch or close to it. |
| 17:22.39 | navaati | i fail to install debian on the laptop because debian-installer (wheezy alpha 1) does not set cpufreq, thus the laptop overheat and shutdown, any idea on how to work around this ? |
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| 17:23.44 | navaati | (cpufreq does not seem to be available in the installer, the commands are not available, neither are the cpufreq interface in sysfs |
| 17:24.04 | navaati | and i couldn't find any relevant kernel module |
| 17:24.04 | sneex | pick advanced install? |
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| 17:24.22 | navaati | i tried advanced install, doesn't change anything |
| 17:24.38 | sneex | kernel is rebuit at new install - for the most part |
| 17:24.41 | tremon | navaati: if it's a new laptop, return it? I wouldn't want a laptop with self-destructive defaults |
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| 17:25.46 | sneex | does sid do that also ? |
| 17:25.49 | navaati | tremon: it's an old one (4-5 y.o.), it works fine when the cpu frequency is blocked at the max |
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| 17:26.09 | navaati | ah, didn't test sid... |
| 17:26.18 | JoeHazzers | how can i find out which packages provide a given command? |
| 17:28.13 | sneex | maybe dpkg -S quux |
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| 17:29.10 | sneex | try http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt |
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| 17:31.39 | navaati | does debootstrap produce the same result than debian-installer ? |
| 17:32.35 | tremon | navaati: it doesn't do configuration (most importantly, it does not create /etc/fstab) |
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| 17:33.11 | navaati | fstab is not a problem, it's simple, but what other config does d-i do ? |
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| 17:35.23 | tremon | network, hostname, apt sources, users and passwords, package selection, bootloader, partitioning, timezone, locales, keyboard layout |
| 17:35.29 | tremon | probably more |
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| 17:36.56 | navaati | hurmf, cumbersome |
| 17:37.04 | hedel | hola |
| 17:37.18 | navaati | is there a way to install more kernel modules into debian-installer ? |
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| 17:37.35 | Desproges | Hi, does someone know what are /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- ? |
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| 17:37.53 | hedel | help con mi wifi, veo mi red con todos mis dispositivos, pero la laptop con debian no la ve |
| 17:38.02 | hedel | sin embargo, si veo otras wifi de los vecinos |
| 17:38.10 | tremon | Desproges: man 5 passwd will tell you |
| 17:38.12 | tremon | !es |
| 17:38.13 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 17:38.22 | navaati | (jeez, why did'nt they include cpufreq drivers into the install cd...) |
| 17:38.38 | Desproges | oh, ok a simple backup file |
| 17:38.40 | hedel | buff, sorry, yes, was a mistake |
| 17:38.41 | Desproges | thanks you tremon |
| 17:38.49 | hedel | well, Hi! |
| 17:38.55 | hedel | i start again :) |
| 17:39.04 | tremon | did I get the language right though? ;) |
| 17:39.49 | hedel | i see my wifi with all my device, but the laptop with debian see the wifi from other people, but not my own router |
| 17:40.35 | tremon | hedel: most likely it's a problem with regional settings, e.g. channels 12 and 13 are only available in EU |
| 17:40.58 | tremon | if your wifi driver isn't set for EU territory, it will not scan on those channels |
| 17:41.24 | hedel | yes, the router just right now is in auto but is using channel 12 |
| 17:41.40 | hedel | for europe, czech republic? what you recomend? |
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| 17:42.30 | tremon | you probably need to set EU region. However, I have never dealt with wireless, not sure how you should do that |
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| 17:43.08 | navaati | hedel: can't you set your router on channel 11 ? it usually works, i think |
| 17:43.15 | cactusbin | Hello I am having trouble getting power management (suspend and shutdown) working on my laptop, can anyone point me in the right direction? The wiki has nothing for squeeze |
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| 17:43.40 | cactusbin | I would really appreciate it... |
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| 17:44.29 | tremon | cactusbin: you probably need pm-utils |
| 17:44.42 | sh0t | hi guys do u know if there is a tool to reduce somhow the quality of a video..i am trying to watch one but it's too slow...i think due to thehigh quality |
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| 17:45.24 | cactusbin | tremon: ok I will try that thanks |
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| 17:47.05 | cactusbin | tremon: pm-utils is already installed... |
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| 17:47.33 | tremon | hedel: http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/UserDocs/CountryCode might help perhaps |
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| 17:48.16 | tremon | cactusbin: so, what happens when you run pm-suspend? |
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| 17:48.50 | cactusbin | tremon: the screen turns off but the computer is still on |
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| 17:49.29 | cactusbin | tremon: and I must hold the power button I can't switch to a terminal or anything |
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| 17:49.41 | tremon | cactusbin: well since suspend is suspend-to-ram, that's to be expected |
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| 17:49.53 | tremon | and what happens when you run pm-hibernate? |
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| 17:51.05 | cactusbin | tremon: the same thing but I can't turn it back on |
| 17:51.18 | cactusbin | tremon: I have to shut it down |
| 17:52.05 | tremon | cactusbin: how much time did you give it to write its ram contents to disk before pulling the plug? |
| 17:52.24 | tremon | and do you have a swap partition that's larger than your ram size? |
| 17:53.20 | cactusbin | tremon: I believe I do and about a minute I suppose, I have a tmpfs set up though would that interfere with it |
| 17:54.18 | tremon | no, tmpfs should be fine. It just means more data to write to disk |
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| 17:55.03 | cactusbin | tremon: shutdown also does not work |
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| 17:56.00 | tremon | cactusbin: how do you turn off your machine then? |
| 17:56.53 | cactusbin | tremon: I have to hold the power button |
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| 17:57.16 | cactusbin | tremon: also pm-is-supported says suspend and hibernate aren't supported but I used them on Fedora |
| 17:57.36 | cactusbin | tremon: wait nevermind I misread the code :/ sorry |
| 17:59.55 | tremon | cactusbin: I think you should focus on getting shutdown to work first |
| 18:00.41 | cactusbin | tremon: haha I agree I'm trying to I'm just not really sure how shutdown works to be honest |
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| 18:01.10 | fredl | tremon - just upgraded to bpo kernel and mdadm |
| 18:01.17 | Kobzar | hi all |
| 18:01.24 | fredl | gotta love this, I now no longer have *any* md device. |
| 18:01.56 | tremon | fredl: but can you now access the partitions on sda and sdb? |
| 18:02.35 | Kobzar | how i can found my video card model? |
| 18:02.42 | fredl | access the partitions? |
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| 18:03.06 | dvs | Kobzar: lspci -nn | grep -i vga |
| 18:03.30 | fredl | tremon - what do you mean? |
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| 18:03.55 | Kobzar | dvs: 10x |
| 18:04.07 | dvs | 10q? |
| 18:04.13 | Kobzar | what numbers is my model? |
| 18:04.18 | tremon | cactusbin: iirc matthew garrett did a piece on it a while ago, it's fairly complex and might need a kernel patch to get working, but without getting shutdown working there's little hope of hibernating correctly |
| 18:04.22 | Kobzar | 10x = thanx |
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| 18:04.51 | tremon | fredl: is sda1 listed in /proc/partitions, and can you fdisk -l /dev/sda and see a correct partition table? |
| 18:05.12 | cactusbin | tremon: well it worked in Fedora.. so maybe if I upgrade to the latest kernel that might fix it? |
| 18:05.12 | fredl | oh... yeah I guess they are |
| 18:05.13 | dvs | Kobzar: Whatever is in the square brackets |
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| 18:05.40 | fredl | tremon - http://paste.debian.net/180123/ |
| 18:05.51 | Kobzar | VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0046] (rev 02) |
| 18:06.09 | dvs | ,pciid 8086:0046 |
| 18:06.11 | judd | [8086:0046] is 'Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'i915' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:0046 |
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| 18:06.27 | tremon | fredl: ok, use blkid to identify the partitions on sda and sdb |
| 18:07.21 | fredl | tremon - which ones? all of them? |
| 18:07.44 | tremon | fredl: preferably |
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| 18:08.07 | fredl | well there's not *that* many :) http://paste.debian.net/180124/ |
| 18:08.17 | fredl | I'm not sure where you're going with this though? |
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| 18:08.44 | tremon | fredl: I wanted to see whether sda1 and sdb1 had the same uuid |
| 18:09.05 | fredl | so they do.. |
| 18:09.15 | tremon | no they don't |
| 18:09.27 | tremon | which means you weren't using a disk-level raid before ;) |
| 18:09.42 | tremon | just wanted to be sure before possibly wrecking your imsm array... |
| 18:09.56 | fredl | uhm a49a8c04-f42e-dbf0-7665-19c334fabedc and a49a8c04-f42e-dbf0-7665-19c334fabedc right? |
| 18:10.06 | fredl | to me... those look identical. |
| 18:10.46 | fredl | oh wait, sda2 and sdb2 are the RAID partitions. |
| 18:10.47 | tremon | yes, but that's the raid members. They should be identical. I was looking at the 100MB ext2 partitions |
| 18:10.52 | tremon | :) |
| 18:11.01 | fredl | oh I see... I think :) |
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| 18:11.10 | fredl | well I most likely don't see. |
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| 18:11.50 | fredl | those 100MB ones are the partitions I used for /boot at the time |
| 18:12.15 | fredl | I set those up identical but non-raid so I could boot from either was the plan |
| 18:12.20 | tremon | try mdadm --examine --scan again |
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| 18:13.00 | Kobzar | when i try start Trine i have error "Render initialisation failure" what i need do? debian Wheezy |
| 18:13.12 | fredl | I think that looks the same no? http://paste.debian.net/180126/ |
| 18:13.24 | fredl | oh wait! also something the mdadm upgrade said |
| 18:13.34 | fredl | shit where was that... |
| 18:13.40 | frostschutz | fredl: you can use raid1 for /boot, it's not a problem |
| 18:13.59 | fredl | tremon this looked important http://paste.debian.net/180120/ |
| 18:14.18 | fredl | frostschutz, I'm not sure if it was possible at the time I installed it which was some 3 years ago |
| 18:14.25 | tremon | fredl: there is an md0 line that wasn't there before, and it's correctly identifying the a49a uuid |
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| 18:15.09 | tremon | fredl: put that line in /etc/mdadm.conf and try to assemble it (mdadm -A) |
| 18:15.19 | fredl | ok... so now I must somehow convert that md0 line into something in mdadm.conf I guess? |
| 18:15.24 | fredl | oops :) |
| 18:15.25 | fredl | LOL |
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| 18:15.33 | fredl | read before hitting enter :P |
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| 18:16.17 | tremon | fredl: also, comment out the imsm lines from mdadm.conf |
| 18:16.29 | Kobzar | root-> glxinfo |grep rendering |
| 18:16.29 | Kobzar | direct rendering: Yes |
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| 18:16.41 | fredl | oi! |
| 18:16.41 | tremon | including the volume0 because that refers to the imsm uuid |
| 18:16.45 | fredl | root@omega:~# mdadm -A /dev/md0 |
| 18:16.45 | fredl | mdadm: /dev/md0 has been started with 2 drives. |
| 18:16.52 | tremon | sounds good |
| 18:16.54 | fredl | oh my. |
| 18:17.16 | fredl | yay! /proc/mdstat says they're active! |
| 18:17.17 | tremon | so apparently, the issue was that the 2.6.32 kernel was misidentifying some imsm array |
| 18:17.32 | fredl | I'd kiss you :) |
| 18:17.44 | fredl | thank you! |
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| 18:18.16 | fredl | that also explains why I had so much problems with the installer |
| 18:18.31 | fredl | the installer somehow saw the logical volumes |
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| 18:19.01 | fredl | and I tried to use them but underwater I guess the kernel somehow couldn't make heads nor tails from it |
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| 18:21.23 | kevlarman | is there a package with opengl man pages? |
| 18:21.38 | jelly-home | fredl: now go and report the bug for the kernel package and the installer! |
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| 18:22.07 | fredl | is that really relevant jelly-home, how often would such a freak case happen? |
| 18:22.39 | fredl | I can do it, no problem, just wondering if it would serve anybody. |
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| 18:23.02 | Xtreme | hello guys, my speakers arent working.. |
| 18:23.08 | Xtreme | they were working few weeks ago |
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| 18:23.18 | Xtreme | now i am trying to play songs, and i am not getting any sound output |
| 18:23.24 | Xtreme | can anyone help me to debug it? |
| 18:23.27 | break19 | so replace the speakers. if it's the speakers... |
| 18:23.43 | macondo | hi, i just installed wheezy, i cannot launch vim-tiny |
| 18:23.52 | Xtreme | they work fine on windows |
| 18:23.58 | macondo | using icewm |
| 18:23.58 | Xtreme | i am dual booting with windows and linux |
| 18:24.00 | Xtreme | laptop |
| 18:24.04 | break19 | then it's not the speakers. :) |
| 18:24.22 | Xtreme | lol |
| 18:24.30 | Xtreme | how can i fix the issue break19 |
| 18:24.46 | BlitzHere | check alsamixer. Are all muted? |
| 18:24.48 | fredl | lemme reboot and see if this sticks now and if lvm will map my logical volumes |
| 18:25.11 | Xtreme | BlitzHere: nope, nothing is muted |
| 18:25.26 | BlitzHere | You need both master and PCM to not be muted. Press m to unmute |
| 18:25.58 | Xtreme | BlitzHere: yes that works, PCM was muted from there |
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| 18:26.01 | Xtreme | wonder how that happened |
| 18:26.04 | Xtreme | thanks :) |
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| 18:26.18 | break19 | 1, make sure the proper device support is in the kernel, either compiled in, or by using the proper mudule... 2, make sure your volume is not muted in software... |
| 18:26.36 | break19 | ah, sounds like beat me to it. :) |
| 18:26.42 | break19 | like *someone* |
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| 18:27.14 | BlitzHere | Xtreme: the exact same thing same thing happened to me yesterday. I went to the point of booting up puppykinux and getting alsa.conf from there :P |
| 18:27.45 | Xtreme | BlitzHere: new to linux here. went from way over my head :) |
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| 18:28.17 | Xtreme | but getting to learn new things every day |
| 18:28.25 | Xtreme | and i extended my linux partition by 10gb :) |
| 18:28.30 | Xtreme | no more slow speed issue |
| 18:28.46 | Xtreme | thanks for the person who helped me yesterday |
| 18:29.46 | BlitzHere | Xtreme: lol same here. I went crazy trying to figure it out yesterday. I checked everything, every cable, I even got alsa.conf from puppy linux and copied that to debian, until someone came along and asked me to check the volumes properly...lol |
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| 18:30.14 | Xtreme | lol |
| 18:30.39 | Xtreme | it must have pissed you off |
| 18:31.11 | BlitzHere | very noobish yesterday... |
| 18:31.26 | jelly-home | ,v fail2ban |
| 18:31.27 | judd | Package: fail2ban on i386 -- lenny: 0.8.3-2sid1; squeeze: 0.8.4-3+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 0.8.6-3~bpo60+1; sid: 0.8.6-3; wheezy: 0.8.6-3 |
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| 18:51.05 | cdehaan | Hello! Does anyone know how the default install of munin on debian works? Is it automatically set up for local monitoring? If so, how do I access it? |
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| 18:54.57 | digdilem | cdehaan, install munin-node for clients |
| 18:55.41 | digdilem | then one server, which may also be local |
| 18:55.43 | cantoma | hey guys, is there a way of adding notes to pdfs using some available software?? |
| 18:56.45 | forestbird | did anyone experience system freezes on sid recently due to chromium or knows something about it? thx |
| 18:56.55 | cdehaan | digidilem: Aah, got it! Cool, thanks! |
| 18:57.06 | Rox64 | cantoma: Xournal |
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| 18:58.35 | cantoma | Rox64, and then other people that use for instance adobe reader will be able to read them? |
| 18:58.49 | Rox64 | Oh. No, sorry. |
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| 19:02.53 | emss | forestbird ? |
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| 19:22.30 | sweb | how can i know which version of debian is ... during boot menu ? |
| 19:23.01 | simonlnu | after you login only, in the default MOTD |
| 19:23.29 | sweb | i tell datacenter admin to load my DVD mount into my server ... |
| 19:23.35 | sweb | i think it's wrong version |
| 19:23.39 | sweb | how can i know that ... |
| 19:23.42 | sweb | debian logo ... |
| 19:23.53 | simonlnu | cat /proc/version should help |
| 19:23.59 | simonlnu | !version |
| 19:23.59 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r, or cat /proc/version. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_ , or run apt-cache policy <packagename>. Miscellaneous commands: try --version on the command. For the version of Debian, ask me about <debian suite>. |
| 19:24.10 | sweb | i'm in boot menu |
| 19:24.16 | sweb | how can i load terminal ? |
| 19:24.34 | simonlnu | start grub console |
| 19:24.46 | simonlnu | mind you, it's grub, not a shell per se |
| 19:25.06 | sweb | rescue mode ? |
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| 19:25.21 | simonlnu | not the same thing |
| 19:25.38 | simonlnu | i gtg. i wish you good luck with this. |
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| 19:29.30 | THE_GFR|WORK | hmm |
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| 19:31.01 | sweb | it's squeeze 6.0.5 ? |
| 19:31.01 | sweb | http://1.pend.uphero.com/images/11f9e533f285.png |
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| 19:32.28 | sweb | any one ? |
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| 19:36.44 | sweb | :-( |
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| 19:37.18 | Rox64 | You should check your grub's entry |
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| 19:38.22 | oznt | hi everyone, please help me solve issues with apt- it keeps complaining "Illegal Instruction" and i don't know what to do |
| 19:39.24 | sweb | my problem is so simple ... how can i know which version i debian mounted in my dvd rom ? without end all of installation wizards |
| 19:40.44 | Rox64 | Where did you dowload your dvd iso? |
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| 19:41.21 | jagginess | sweb, there's only 1 debian, and that's downloading it from a debian source.. A debian-derivative isn't considered debian |
| 19:42.47 | sweb | i dont download it ... i send link from http to my smart ass datacenter admin to mount it for using VNC installation ... i want to know he was do it as my version or older |
| 19:43.17 | sweb | i just to know what's version of debian mountet in my server ... simplest |
| 19:43.49 | jagginess | sweb, well what "http link" did you send? do you remember? |
| 19:44.03 | sweb | http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/debian-cd/6.0.5/amd64/iso-dvd/debian-6.0.5-amd64-DVD-1.iso |
| 19:44.14 | sweb | i grab it from official debian site |
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| 19:44.54 | sweb | why debian dont give me version at boot menu ? any command etc ... |
| 19:44.57 | jagginess | sweb, the amd64 branch is also used for intel 64bit |
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| 19:45.20 | sweb | arch is not my problem |
| 19:45.27 | Rox64 | The link says debian-6.0.5 |
| 19:45.51 | MO_Handes | is having Wheezy CD 1 enough for installing it? does it include gnome? |
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| 19:46.05 | jagginess | sweb, 6.0.5 is the edition |
| 19:46.30 | jagginess | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian |
| 19:46.40 | jagginess | (7 is unstable) |
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| 19:46.42 | Rox64 | As far as I know, the main CD has gnome-shell. There's a KDE build and a XFCE+LXDE build too. |
| 19:47.09 | jagginess | MO_Handes, yes |
| 19:47.15 | jagginess | !wheezy |
| 19:47.15 | dpkg | The release following squeeze will be called "wheezy" (the rubber toy penguin with a red bow tie) and will be Debian 7.0. Wheezy was frozen on June 30, 2012. Ask me about <testing>, <freeze>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWheezy #debian-next on irc.debian.org. |
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| 19:47.50 | MO_Handes | is any dates announced or is probable to be announced for Wheezy release? |
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| 19:48.02 | jagginess | is there a CD for wheezy? |
| 19:48.10 | Rox64 | Yes. |
| 19:48.36 | Rox64 | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/ |
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| 19:49.30 | NChief | !testing |
| 19:49.30 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <wheezy>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <squeeze->wheezy> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging and be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers. |
| 19:49.39 | Rox64 | There's http://live-build.debian.net too. |
| 19:50.12 | ompaul | MO_Handes: no, not a date, just an amount of bugs that are release critical that need to be squashed |
| 19:50.30 | ompaul | MO_Handes: the marketing department has no say ;-) |
| 19:51.36 | MO_Handes | if I download and install the testing now, will it be simply updated (using apt-get etc.) to stable? |
| 19:52.25 | Rox64 | No. |
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| 19:52.44 | Rox64 | Testing has newer and updated packages. |
| 19:53.06 | Rox64 | You can update squeeze to wheezy or sid. Downgrading is dangerous. |
| 19:53.17 | tremon | MO_Handes: if you install testing, you will never move to stable. If you install wheezy, you will be using wheezy whether that is released as testing, stable or (much later) oldstable |
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| 19:53.43 | sparx | witam :) |
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| 19:54.38 | tremon | sparx: do I need to upgrade my jargon files again? |
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| 19:57.06 | karlpinc | MO_Handes: Testing becomes stable, yes, eventually. But see the <moving target> factoid. Stable will also upgrade to the new stable when released, so long as you follow the upgrade instructions in the release notes. |
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| 19:57.21 | karlpinc | !tell MO_Handes about moving target |
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| 19:57.53 | shawn186 | howdy |
| 19:58.05 | shawn186 | wow..lot of people |
| 19:58.28 | ompaul | shh you will wake them |
| 19:58.32 | shawn186 | lol |
| 19:59.01 | dvs | roars |
| 19:59.17 | shawn186 | I am having a problem with the terminal in a debian 6 tools image in vmware |
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| 20:00.26 | ompaul | shawn186: tell the full channel (not me) exactly what you are seeing wrong (note the not me bit) |
| 20:00.38 | shawn186 | ? |
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| 20:01.28 | karlpinc | !tell shawn186 about doesn't work |
| 20:02.05 | shawn186 | I'm trying to login as sudo, but when I use the preset password, it tells me,"user is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported." |
| 20:02.19 | shawn186 | This is in the terminal |
| 20:02.32 | karlpinc | shawn186: Sudo is not enabled by default. |
| 20:02.42 | karlpinc | !tell shawn186 about sudoers |
| 20:02.48 | shawn186 | oh |
| 20:02.53 | shawn186 | forgive me, I am a noob |
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| 20:03.01 | shawn186 | i dont know much about linux |
| 20:03.02 | karlpinc | shawn186: Personally, I prefer "su -". |
| 20:03.14 | karlpinc | shawn186: su will ask for the root password. |
| 20:03.14 | dvs | shawn186: as root, run "visudo" to edit the file |
| 20:03.16 | MO_Handes | Debian Wheezy cds are built daily, Is that mean that I have to download it in 24 hours and it be updated and replaced with another package the next day?! |
| 20:03.34 | Rox64 | No. |
| 20:03.49 | Rox64 | You can download a CD, then type "sudo apt-get upgrade". |
| 20:03.49 | shawn186 | Well su - worked, why? |
| 20:03.52 | dvs | MO_Handes: if you have an internet connection, no |
| 20:04.09 | karlpinc | MO_Handes: The wheezy installer is under development. The recommend way to use testing is to install a minimal stable system and upgrade. Unless you want to test the wheezy installer. |
| 20:04.11 | dvs | shawn186: su is installed by default |
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| 20:04.25 | shawn186 | what is su? |
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| 20:04.31 | dvs | shawn186: switch user |
| 20:04.37 | shawn186 | oh |
| 20:04.38 | karlpinc | MO_Handes: Do you have a reason for running testing or do you just want something shiney? |
| 20:04.45 | karlpinc | shawn186: "man su" |
| 20:05.29 | shawn186 | I did the visudo you told me to do |
| 20:05.45 | shawn186 | what do i do in there? |
| 20:05.58 | dvs | shawn186: The file is pretty self explanatory. |
| 20:06.50 | dvs | shawn186: root already has an entry in there. Add another line for your user. |
| 20:07.05 | MO_Handes | I'm now on Wheezy, but I messed up some configuration files and installed lot of packages which has made it slow, I want to install a fresh one. The way I installed the one I'm using now was upgrading from my squeeze install which I had installed from squeeze DVD1 |
| 20:08.00 | shawn186 | where at |
| 20:08.04 | karlpinc | MO_Handes: You can use the same dvd, just do a minimal install (don't check anything when it comes to extra packages.) Then change your <sources.list> file and upgrade. |
| 20:08.19 | dvs | shawn186: Right below the root entry? |
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| 20:08.30 | MO_Handes | and yes, I need newer versions of applications which are only available at testing, neither in stable nor in backports |
| 20:08.41 | susam | !man debian |
| 20:08.41 | dpkg | man debian is probably at http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=debian where you can view many Debian man pages. Ask me about <docs> <dmp> <grounding> <search>. |
| 20:08.46 | shawn186 | what are the user and Cmnd fields for? |
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| 20:08.55 | dvs | shawn186: man sudo |
| 20:09.00 | shawn186 | ? |
| 20:09.51 | MO_Handes | karlpinc, why is it recommended to upgrade from squeeze, not installing a Wheezy downloaded package? |
| 20:10.04 | Rox64 | I have a question. I have installed live-build 3.0~a51-1 0 from packages.debian.org on a Ubuntu system (yeah, not the best thing I could do, but I don't have Debian installed and the native Ubuntu package gave me errors). I have created auto scripts, I have created config/archives and config/package-lists. In package-list I have created a "my.list.chroot" file with packages I want to include on my live build, and in config/archives I |
| 20:10.04 | Rox64 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:12.50 | karlpinc | MO_Handes: Because wheezy is under development, and breaks. So the installer breaks. |
| 20:12.59 | shawn186 | i think i'm going to follow a tutorial from a fresh install |
| 20:13.15 | shawn186 | so I can fully learn how the operating system works |
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| 20:13.21 | karlpinc | shawn186: The best tuitorial is the offical install guide. |
| 20:13.23 | karlpinc | !ig |
| 20:13.23 | dpkg | The Installation Guide for Debian Squeeze (6.0) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/installmanual . See also <errata> <firmware images> <installer firmware> <release notes>. |
| 20:13.37 | shawn186 | those throw me off, i'm a watch and learn type of kid |
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| 20:14.21 | karlpinc | shawn186: You can always ask here if you have questions as you go. |
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| 20:14.40 | Rox64 | anyone? |
| 20:15.15 | shawn186 | oh? I thought people on irc hated helping kids D: |
| 20:15.36 | fredl | Hmm. Anybody good with kvm/qemu/libvirt* here? I've downgraded from Sid to Squeeze and it looks like my virtual server XML's no longer work. |
| 20:15.50 | karlpinc | Rox64: Hard to say. Since it's an ubuntu system you should ask them for help. |
| 20:16.04 | karlpinc | !tell fredl about downgrade |
| 20:16.06 | fredl | could use some help with it although it's not strictly a debian thing :) |
| 20:16.18 | fredl | karlpinc, nah, it's a fresh install of squeeze. |
| 20:16.36 | fredl | just trying to get the configs from my Sid server to work on this box now |
| 20:16.39 | ompaul | fredl: but you kept data from sid |
| 20:16.46 | Rox64 | Well, I'm using Debian's live-build package, not the Ubuntu build, and I'm using it on Debian mode. |
| 20:16.47 | ompaul | fredl: mix and mismatch |
| 20:16.55 | karlpinc | fredl: Well, we're here to help people who are running debian. Pretty much help them do things with debian. If it has zero to do with debian we'd refer you elsewhere. |
| 20:16.58 | fredl | ompaul - yeah the config files. |
| 20:17.23 | tremon | I'm good with kvm but not libvirt, it's possible you're using virtio disks which are not available in squeeze iirc |
| 20:17.36 | fredl | possible tremon. |
| 20:17.36 | ompaul | fredl: they are not going to match 100% of the time - if it does not work out of the box I think you have to consider it's a reconfigure |
| 20:18.32 | fredl | I hope the images at least will work. |
| 20:20.04 | Rox64 | I have a question about Sid since many years ago (despite the fact I used Sid once). Is Sid frozen when Testing is freezed? |
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| 20:22.07 | fredl | maybe..... easier than I thought. Simply import existing image it seems |
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| 20:22.30 | fredl | awesome. |
| 20:22.41 | karlpinc | Rox64: I don't know. That's my guess -- sorta. There's docs on this if you follow the developers link at debian.org. |
| 20:22.52 | tremon | !slushy |
| 20:22.52 | dpkg | When a <testing> release becomes frozen, <unstable> tends to partially freeze as well. This is because developers are reluctant to upload radically new software to unstable, in case the frozen software in testing needs minor updates and to fix release critical bugs which keep testing from becoming <stable>. |
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| 20:24.08 | Rox64 | Oh, thanks, karlpinc and tremon. |
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| 20:45.45 | sneex | how are these two update dvds used? We dont boot off them?\ |
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| 20:47.58 | tremon | sneex: you add them as cdrom: sources |
| 20:48.27 | sneex | k |
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| 20:48.47 | tremon | sneex: man apt-cdrom |
| 20:48.53 | sneex | I had it read them at insall but its still truckin |
| 20:48.55 | sneex | brb' |
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| 20:53.06 | shawn186 | why do i only see a debian 6 squeeze tutorial when i am searching for a debian 6 full tutorial? |
| 20:53.15 | sneex | yeah; I was trying tp boot off the darn things earlier -wasted a dvd lol |
| 20:53.31 | shawn186 | is squeeze a smaller version of debian 6? |
| 20:53.47 | sneex | sort of |
| 20:54.14 | sneex | look for wheezy? |
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| 20:54.27 | shawn186 | wheezy o.O? |
| 20:54.55 | kopi | Hi.How would I create a Linux Live DVd with 3 porgramms allready preinstalled |
| 20:55.29 | TheCoffeMaker | kopi checkout debian-live project |
| 20:55.30 | mtn | shawn186, squeeze is debian 6 |
| 20:55.33 | Rox64 | Debian Squeeze is Debian 6. |
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| 20:55.38 | Rox64 | The current stable release. |
| 20:55.52 | Rox64 | Debian Wheezy is Debian 7, the current testing version. |
| 20:55.57 | shawn186 | oh |
| 20:56.01 | kopi | link plz :) |
| 20:56.07 | shawn186 | i'm just looking for debian 6 as a linux starter |
| 20:56.30 | shawn186 | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.5/i386/bt-dvd/ why 6 *DVD*s? |
| 20:56.38 | shawn186 | is debian that big? |
| 20:56.46 | TheCoffeMaker | kopi iam on a phone ... just go to google |
| 20:56.47 | Rox64 | If you has never tried Linux before, you should check Linux Mint instead, unless you want to learn with the hard way. |
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| 20:56.50 | sneex | why bit torrent? |
| 20:57.02 | shawn186 | fastest way for me to get it |
| 20:57.09 | sneex | debian is 14 CDs >< |
| 20:57.17 | sneex | dvds are better |
| 20:57.21 | shawn186 | is debian 24 GB's? |
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| 20:57.28 | kopi | ah sorry |
| 20:57.35 | sneex | forieng langauges yes |
| 20:57.39 | Rox64 | Last time I checked, Debian has nearly 30000 packages, shawm186. Remember, Debian is the Universal Operating System. |
| 20:57.39 | shawn186 | ? |
| 20:57.47 | sneex | not just engrish |
| 20:57.51 | shawn186 | oh, and they are all there? |
| 20:57.55 | sneex | yep |
| 20:57.58 | shawn186 | wow |
| 20:58.00 | Rox64 | Yup |
| 20:58.04 | sneex | only need dvd 1 |
| 20:58.05 | shawn186 | quite the bundle of dvds |
| 20:58.11 | shawn186 | really? |
| 20:58.17 | shawn186 | what about netinstall? |
| 20:58.20 | sneex | only 1 yes |
| 20:58.23 | Rox64 | Netinstall is different. |
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| 20:58.41 | Rox64 | With netinstall you need to download the packages when you're installing Debian. |
| 20:58.43 | sneex | :P got a fast ether then ok to netinstall |
| 20:58.58 | shawn186 | 20 MBPS |
| 20:59.02 | sneex | otherwise get the first dvd |
| 20:59.08 | Rox64 | With a CD, many, if not all needed packages are already burned in the CD. |
| 20:59.09 | shawn186 | i get to roughly 5 MBPS if i am lucky |
| 20:59.22 | shawn186 | for download speed |
| 20:59.36 | sneex | then the dvd come that much faster huh? |
| 20:59.46 | shawn186 | through bittorrent |
| 21:00.09 | sneex | I d/l 3 debian fbsd dvd already |
| 21:00.19 | sneex | w/o bt |
| 21:00.21 | shawn186 | wow |
| 21:00.29 | shawn186 | you must have fast internet |
| 21:00.36 | sneex | dsl :P |
| 21:00.44 | sneex | but its rock solid |
| 21:00.47 | shawn186 | huh |
| 21:00.59 | shawn186 | it takes me 2 minutes to download the net install dis |
| 21:01.01 | shawn186 | *disk |
| 21:01.25 | sneex | dsl is better in a lot of ways then cale but thats abnother story |
| 21:01.32 | sneex | cable* |
| 21:01.51 | shawn186 | really |
| 21:01.51 | shawn186 | wow |
| 21:02.31 | sneex | i spend 3 hours d/l dvd or 34 hours with net install ... so I choose the former |
| 21:02.40 | sneex | 3 or 4 hours |
| 21:02.55 | sneex | plus I have a shiney dvd after |
| 21:03.13 | sneex | mine are rw but dont tell |
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| 21:06.13 | ompaul | sneex: how do you get 34 hours if you download for a net install - if your dvd takes 3 hours |
| 21:06.27 | dvs | ompaul: 3 or 4 hours |
| 21:06.35 | ompaul | ahhhhhhh |
| 21:06.52 | ompaul | how not to type dropping the 3 or 4 hours is not 34 :) |
| 21:06.53 | dvs | The double blu-ray on the other hand... |
| 21:07.19 | ompaul | well I do have the idea that a net install at worst is about 1.5 hours |
| 21:07.21 | ompaul | all in |
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| 21:16.20 | shawn186 | should i install debian in seperate partitions? |
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| 21:16.26 | shawn186 | or all in one? |
| 21:17.15 | sneex | all in 1 first few tines |
| 21:17.22 | sneex | times* |
| 21:17.35 | shawn186 | ? |
| 21:17.44 | tremon | shawn186: I'd keep /home separate |
| 21:17.59 | BlitzHere | What's the advantage of having separate partitions? |
| 21:18.19 | shawn186 | i have no idea |
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| 21:18.40 | shawn186 | why keep home seperate? |
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| 21:19.55 | funky | you can reinstall a system and keep all you user config files, all your stuff etc.. |
| 21:19.58 | sneex | lvm IF you have a need otherwise no |
| 21:20.08 | BlitzHere | I would like to know too. Is it just data security, or is there more? |
| 21:20.24 | sneex | data dr basically |
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| 21:20.35 | tremon | it's not for security, it's optimization |
| 21:20.37 | shawn186 | well..just for a practise install, should i go with all in 1? |
| 21:20.47 | sneex | not so much secuirty as disaster recovery |
| 21:20.57 | sneex | i would |
| 21:21.10 | funky | also security, eg. having /tmp within the root filesystem could be DoS breach |
| 21:21.26 | dvs | BlitzHere: and security. Someone could attack you by sending email continuously and fill up your hard drive if you dont have a separate /var partition |
| 21:21.27 | tremon | unix directories are separated by purpose, which means you can choose a filesystem/mount options based on expected usage |
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| 21:21.46 | shawn186 | DoS breach? |
| 21:21.48 | BlitzHere | What if you ran out of space in one partition? But you had a load of space in another. Wouldn't that be annoying? |
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| 21:21.52 | shawn186 | like DDoS> |
| 21:21.53 | shawn186 | ? |
| 21:21.57 | funky | shawn186: exactly what dvs said |
| 21:22.16 | shawn186 | didn't know that was possible on a computer |
| 21:22.53 | dvs | BlitzHere: That's where lvm comes in. I've never used it though |
| 21:23.03 | tremon | dvs: which is why the mail delivery program shouldn't run as root and you should always reserve some space for root-only usage ;) |
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| 21:23.07 | sneex | my var tmp at work shoud be 4Gb but Im doomed to 1gb - go figure |
| 21:23.12 | funky | lvm is quite simple and robust, I really recommend it |
| 21:23.21 | sneex | yep |
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| 21:23.28 | sneex | lvm is the way |
| 21:23.44 | BlitzHere | dvs: I guess that's a good reason for a mission critical computer. thanks. But isn't that just troublesome overkill for the average home user? |
| 21:23.58 | funky | I translated the gentoo's lvm doc into spanish like 7 years ago |
| 21:24.06 | shawn186 | what is var? |
| 21:24.12 | funky | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.27 | dvs | BlitzHere: For the average user, sure. But I'd still make a separate /home just in case a reinstall is necessary. |
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| 21:24.50 | shawn186 | I have no idea what /var is, i dont understand *linux* |
| 21:25.03 | BlitzHere | dvs: hmm, okay. I might do that on my next install. Thanks |
| 21:25.10 | sneex | lol etc var and /usr are your friends |
| 21:25.10 | funky | http://www.gentoo.org/doc/es/lvm2.xml |
| 21:25.11 | dvs | BlitzHere: np |
| 21:25.17 | funky | I still appear as translator :D |
| 21:25.25 | sneex | rgr |
| 21:25.31 | tremon | shawn186: /var is the location to store variable program data |
| 21:25.32 | Rox64 | I don't understand Linux's filesystem hierarchy, despite not using Windows since 4,5 years ago, shawm185 |
| 21:25.58 | BlitzHere | And I gotta figure out lvm...what is lvm? It's a logical something manager, but what does it do? |
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| 21:26.14 | sneex | try a bd once and awhile lol |
| 21:26.15 | dvs | !tell BlitzHere about lvm |
| 21:26.19 | sneex | bas* |
| 21:26.21 | tremon | BlitzHere: it manages logical volumes |
| 21:26.40 | tremon | or rather, allows you to manage them |
| 21:26.47 | shawn186 | tremon ..variable program data? |
| 21:27.08 | sneex | >< One day I promise to learn to type ... so on that I will shut up |
| 21:27.09 | funky | shawn186: man hier |
| 21:27.34 | shawn186 | are you talking german now? |
| 21:27.43 | ompaul | shawn186: no |
| 21:27.50 | funky | just type that in a terminal |
| 21:27.52 | ompaul | shawn186: perhaps you need a little light reading |
| 21:28.01 | dvs | light? |
| 21:28.21 | ompaul | debian handbook - backlit to be more accurate |
| 21:29.20 | ompaul | shawn186: this is what you need: http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/ |
| 21:29.21 | BlitzHere | I started on the debian handbook yesterday. Then I got bored and went distro hopping... |
| 21:29.26 | Rox64 | The Debian Handbook is nice. |
| 21:29.30 | shawn186 | i dont have a terminal right now |
| 21:29.41 | shawn186 | as i am using windows 7 64-bit, with vmware |
| 21:29.43 | shawn186 | player |
| 21:29.53 | ompaul | shawn186: please check out that link |
| 21:30.38 | tremon | http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=hier&format=html&locale=en |
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| 21:31.56 | sguy | .חםןמ |
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| 21:33.10 | sneex | >< night peeps :) |
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| 21:35.02 | sguy | I need some help to get my webcam working. |
| 21:35.02 | sguy | The model is "Venus USB2.0 Camera" - should be supported by UVCvideo. |
| 21:35.02 | sguy | When I try to get video from it using qv4l2 it prints the error "VIDIOC_STREAMON: Resource temporarily unavailable". |
| 21:35.02 | sguy | Pasted kern.log on http://pastebin.com/V8pHCYy0. Kernel 3.2.0-3-amd64. |
| 21:35.02 | sguy | Any ideas? |
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| 21:35.40 | shawn186 | D: |
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| 21:36.49 | Cybertinus | hello. Does anybody know if ssmtp support the AUTH PLAIN login method to an smtp server? And if so: how can I let it use AUTH PLAIN instead of AUTH LOGIN? |
| 21:37.53 | sguy | As bot requested, repasted to http://paste.debian.net/180147/ |
| 21:37.59 | tremon | I'd think (without looking) that ssmtp only does the simple thing: accepting local mail and transporting it to a relay server |
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| 21:39.49 | tremon | oh would you look at that. ssmtp can do smtp authentication |
| 21:39.58 | tremon | Cybertinus: have you read man ssmtp? |
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| 21:41.14 | Cybertinus | tremon: hmm, crap. It is in there :S. I only read the manpage for ssmtp.conf :S |
| 21:41.22 | Cybertinus | sry about asking for a manpage :) |
| 21:41.23 | tremon | :) |
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| 21:42.13 | Getty | Wait wait, the bot kicks if someone doesnt use paste.debian.net ? |
| 21:42.26 | dvs | yup |
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| 21:43.08 | Coweater | no, he pasted 5 lines at once, the url was irrelevant |
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| 21:43.13 | Getty | no he didnt |
| 21:43.14 | hargut | hello |
| 21:43.14 | peterrooney | wonders what snakepit he's dropped in to |
| 21:43.28 | Cybertinus | tremon: well, then I need to find out why my mailserver accept logins via AUTH PLAIN without problem, but refuses them when AUTH LOGIN is used :/ |
| 21:43.43 | hargut | Just a short question for pinning: I've some package with version 2:11.0 and one with 3:11.0, how can i pin the 2 higher than the 3? |
| 21:44.07 | sguy | hm nice to know |
| 21:44.10 | pparadis | Getty: the bot will kick you if you paste more than three lines into the channel. you can try it yourself ;) |
| 21:44.11 | dvs | hargut: That's more of a hold than a pi |
| 21:44.27 | hargut | actually the "slot" number has always higher priority no matter which pin number I set. |
| 21:45.01 | Getty | the bot should learn detecting typing speed ;) some people just write more lines for better reading, but whatever ;) its just way too aggressive in that way |
| 21:45.49 | tremon | Getty: all lines appeared within 1 second. nobody types that fast ;) |
| 21:46.00 | hargut | right now 3:11.0 is installed, but I want to prefer 2:11.0, any suggestions/ideas? |
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| 21:46.10 | tremon | also, pressing Enter too many times will get you kicked too |
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| 21:46.30 | sguy | next time - longer lines |
| 21:47.09 | tremon | sguy: this is very v4l specific, you may have better luck at a dedicated channel |
| 21:47.17 | BlitzHere | What if you typed somewhere else and copy pasted. Or if your internet glitches for a few seconds and all the lines hit Tue server at the same time? |
| 21:47.46 | tremon | BlitzHere: then you get kicked. But it is only a nudge, you're not banned |
| 21:47.50 | Coweater | sguy: the only extra info i could find on those is below 640x480 they only work at full 30 fps |
| 21:48.27 | sguy | tremon: which channel do you suggest? |
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| 21:49.37 | tremon | sguy: #v4l would be my guess, and the channel happens to exist here on freenode |
| 21:50.11 | sguy | Coweater: Saw it too. I've Tried to play with the FPS settings with no luck. |
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| 21:51.01 | Coweater | sguy: has the webcam worked with another machine/os? |
| 21:51.51 | Getty | oh webcam... good point, my laptop webcam wasnt working with skype yesterday, even tho, after restarting the cam inside skype it at least send a black picture, but at no point the "lamp" of the webcam really turned on |
| 21:51.58 | sguy | Didn't tried it myself, but I was told it word on another machine. |
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| 21:52.24 | Getty | the device is there, and used in the setup, i have access to the device and read write/read it, what would be the next thing to look at? |
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| 22:20.02 | jagginess | (for exim mail) I'm reading in documents about the "mail envelop", this is not technically the mail "message headers" correct? |
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| 22:21.55 | Cybertinus | tremon: do you know about a little bug in ssmtp that prevents me from using "weird" characters in my password? So chars like & or # and stuff. Not that weird, imho ;) |
| 22:23.17 | jagginess | Cybertinus, maybe the server doesnt allow it |
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| 22:23.39 | pparadis | Cybertinus: depending on how the password is being passed to ssmtp, you may need to escape those characters. dunno. |
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| 22:24.25 | pparadis | that's probably the case. |
| 22:24.58 | pparadis | Cybertinus: how are you calling ssmtpd? |
| 22:25.06 | pparadis | er, s/ssmtpd/ssmtp/ |
| 22:25.13 | jagginess | lol |
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| 22:25.41 | pparadis | i swear, i can't can't type smtp without wanting to append "d" to it :) |
| 22:25.41 | Cybertinus | jagginess: well, the server accepts my password perfectly when I use Thunderbird to send e-mail :) |
| 22:26.12 | Cybertinus | jagginess: but I haven't checked that Thunderbird also uses AUTH LOGIN to authenticate at the mailserver, it could be that it uses AUTH PLAIN |
| 22:26.18 | pparadis | Cybertinus: right, how are you calling ssmtp? also, have you tested it with a trivial password that doesn't contain those characters? |
| 22:26.26 | jagginess | Cybertinus, ok |
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| 22:26.43 | jagginess | Cybertinus, you can tell in the thunderbird settings if it's using starttls |
| 22:26.49 | Cybertinus | pparadis: yes, I've tested it with the same password, but with the weird chars removed. Then the problem was gone |
| 22:27.00 | pparadis | Cybertinus: okay, good. how are you calling ssmtp? |
| 22:27.14 | Cybertinus | /bin/mail |
| 22:27.21 | jagginess | Cybertinus, you can also run telnet tests to see the lists of smtp extensions to see if secured connection is acceptable |
| 22:27.25 | Cybertinus | from a Bash shell script |
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| 22:27.36 | pparadis | Cybertinus: and you're including the password on the command line, right? |
| 22:27.52 | Cybertinus | pparadis: nope, the password is set in /etc/ssmtp.conf |
| 22:28.19 | Cybertinus | fyi: I'm running ssmtp on Gentoo, but because Debian is the developer of ssmtp I'm asking it here |
| 22:28.26 | Cybertinus | err, it is set in /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf |
| 22:28.43 | pparadis | that makes me wonder how ssmtp is getting that password. i haven't looked at the conf file for that program, but does it use name=value convention? if so, does the password contain an = sign? |
| 22:29.03 | Cybertinus | AuthPass=password |
| 22:29.11 | Cybertinus | but the password doesn't have a = in it |
| 22:29.25 | pparadis | nod |
| 22:29.47 | Cybertinus | it does have a # in it, maybe that screws things up? That it thinks the rest of the line is a comment or something? :) |
| 22:29.55 | pparadis | that is indeed quite possible. |
| 22:30.16 | pparadis | in the same line as asking about the "=" character, i'm wondering if it is parsing it badly. |
| 22:30.41 | crash_ | is there a way to install latest stable kernel 3.4.6 in debian in a .deb package? like ubuntu has kernel-ppa/mainline page? |
| 22:30.44 | jagginess | Cybertinus, does the smtp messaging use "EHLO" ? |
| 22:30.54 | pparadis | has seen quite a few programs do naive splits on name/value pairs, and has also seen "#" get interpreted as a comment when it shouldn't. |
| 22:31.07 | Cybertinus | jagginess: yes, it uses EHLO |
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| 22:32.02 | pparadis | okay, so we know it works properly with a password that doesn't have any "special" characters. maybe try taking out the "#" sign. if you really wanted to, you could also use plaintext auth and tcpdump to see what it's actually passing. it seems you've probably found a bug in ssmtp. |
| 22:32.04 | jagginess | Cybertinus, that implies smtp extensions can be supported.. and authentication is possibly allowed (usually EHLO means the new rfc mail standard supportive) |
| 22:33.10 | jagginess | Cybertinus, are you using your ISP as a smarthost? |
| 22:33.24 | Cybertinus | jagginess: nope. I'm running Postfix on my own VPS |
| 22:33.35 | Cybertinus | so I'm in full control of both the client and the server |
| 22:33.56 | aguitel | how to boot with grub some iso image ? |
| 22:34.00 | jagginess | Cybertinus, is this vps on a registered dns address? |
| 22:34.05 | Cybertinus | pparadis: Wireshark is running here for a while now :). I like that better then tcpdump, and on my desktop I've got the graphical enviroment available :) |
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| 22:34.17 | pparadis | wonders how the fact that it works with a trivial password keeps getting missed. that's a bit of an important piece of data for this troubleshooting episode. |
| 22:34.28 | Cybertinus | jagginess: jup, and the IP address resolves back to that IP address |
| 22:34.39 | pparadis | that tells us it's down to the characters in the password, and only the characters in the password. |
| 22:35.12 | Cybertinus | pparadis: I change my password again, and only remove the # from it. I still have some other weird chars left in it, so it is a good test |
| 22:35.12 | jagginess | Cybertinus, some mail server have a auth-advertisement option.. you may want to see if that is enabled on postfix |
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| 22:35.23 | pparadis | Cybertinus: sure thing. |
| 22:35.41 | jagginess | Cybertinus, the repercussions of that is confusing.. I'm still studying exim (and options related to that exists) |
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| 22:36.17 | pparadis | why oh why are we even talking about all this other stuff when the obvious route is to figure out which specific characters break the auth process in this case? |
| 22:36.50 | FilipeMaia | Is there a way to kill processes that don't die with kill -9? |
| 22:36.55 | pparadis | i mean heck, you could start with the trivial password that you knew worked, and add the special characters back in one by one, making sure you update the password on the server side each time, until it breaks. then you have data to work with. |
| 22:37.00 | pparadis | Cybertinus: ^ |
| 22:37.09 | Cybertinus | pparadis: When I only remove the # from the pass, everything works |
| 22:37.16 | pparadis | there's your answer :) |
| 22:37.20 | Cybertinus | so it really looks like the # is the problem |
| 22:37.26 | pparadis | sounds like a good candidate for a bug report. |
| 22:37.27 | FilipeMaia | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:37.36 | jagginess | Cybertinus, well you should find out if you're using "plaintext" or if its" doing "auth" for each instance |
| 22:37.39 | pparadis | Cybertinus: and problem solved :) |
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| 22:37.51 | Cybertinus | jagginess: I've got auth-advertisement turned on. It sends: AUTH PLAIN LOGIN |
| 22:37.54 | jagginess | Cybertinus, auth is better than plain text |
| 22:38.05 | Cybertinus | and for a while it even advertised: AUTH=PLAIN LOGIN |
| 22:38.16 | Cybertinus | but that old behaviour is turned off again |
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| 22:39.15 | jagginess | Cybertinus, http://linux.die.net/man/5/ssmtp.conf -- AuthMethod - "The authorization method to use. If unset, plain text is used. May also be set to ''cram-md5''. " |
| 22:39.30 | jagginess | cram-md5 is old... |
| 22:39.33 | jagginess | (dont use it) |
| 22:39.35 | pparadis | Cybertinus: ssmtp supports TLS, btw. |
| 22:39.53 | Cybertinus | jagginess: true, it would. But I'm running on port 25 for debugging of this problem only. The rest of the time I'm logging in via SMTPS, so the encryption of everything is handled at a different level |
| 22:40.23 | Cybertinus | jagginess: so, I left AuthMethod unset, and then it uses AUTH LOGIN |
| 22:41.17 | cantoma | hey guys, how can I prevent a specific package from getting upgraded, this happens everytime I do "apt-get upgrade". Is it possible? |
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| 22:42.45 | aguitel | cantoma: look it |
| 22:42.45 | pparadis | cantoma: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/67 |
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| 22:43.23 | aguitel | sorry ,lock it with synaptic |
| 22:44.00 | pparadis | aguitel: synaptic isn't necessary here. it's also good to understand how to actually issue the correct commands to set a package to "hold" |
| 22:44.25 | cantoma | aguitel, thank you very much, that will do |
| 22:44.34 | aguitel | ok |
| 22:44.49 | cantoma | its on hold now |
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| 22:45.49 | cantoma | i just hate when kile gets upgraded from 2.0 to 2.1. The latter version is just horrible. |
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| 22:46.40 | aguitel | pparadis: same work:aptitude hold package_name |
| 22:46.41 | aguitel | canto |
| 22:47.48 | tevhdikqvayyf | How many sysadmin here? |
| 22:48.13 | jagginess | cantoma, wheezy? |
| 22:48.19 | jagginess | cantoma, maybe it's broken |
| 22:48.22 | cantoma | jagginess, squeeze |
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| 22:49.11 | cantoma | jagginess, everytime i save a document it takes ages until it allows me to write again .. besides all the menus are out of their place |
| 22:49.15 | j0lly | How many sysadmin here? |
| 22:49.24 | jagginess | cantoma, thats a bug.. you should report it |
| 22:49.33 | cantoma | jagginess, it has been reported |
| 22:49.36 | jagginess | ok good |
| 22:49.40 | jagginess | :) |
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| 22:49.47 | cantoma | jagginess, it seems it will take ages |
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| 22:50.12 | cantoma | jagginess, i just don't have the patience to fix it .. just backtrack to previous version and hold it |
| 22:50.46 | Cybertinus | I'll report the ssmtp-bug tomorrow too. Then I maybe had some time to look through the sourcecode of it, and maybe write a little patch or something (but my c knowledge is very limitted, so I think the patch is out of the question :p) |
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| 22:51.25 | j0lly | Any syaadmin here? |
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| 22:53.13 | jagginess | j0lly, are you a user? |
| 22:53.23 | j0lly | Yep |
| 22:53.45 | j0lly | Mean bot etc or sys/user? |
| 22:53.49 | j0lly | Hehe |
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| 22:56.09 | daemon | What is the recmmended way to do variable size disk space allocations? |
| 22:56.14 | daemon | so I can reisze them as needed |
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| 22:56.45 | j0lly | Ssoo.... i just would ask the lvl of knowledge a sysadm need.... i would like to become... but dunno about apply if lvl is too low |
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| 22:58.07 | jagginess | daemon, that can only be done with virtual machines |
| 22:58.50 | jagginess | daemon, you're asking a generic linux question which isnt very clear.. |
| 22:59.13 | jagginess | daemon, "variable" is very misleading.. You want to "set"/allocate multiple partitions on a disk. |
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| 22:59.32 | jagginess | daemon, gparted live cd is very popular for doing this. It can resize ntfs and fat32 safely.. |
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| 23:02.32 | snarkpit | Is there a way to run the boot-repair program on debian? I can't find the pckage |
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| 23:03.29 | daemon | jagginess, can I just set a size like with ZFS |
| 23:03.35 | daemon | and increase it as I need |
| 23:03.40 | daemon | and reduce it as I need |
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| 23:04.44 | snarkpit | I see references to boot-repair running on debian but none that ctually link to a package or a repo |
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| 23:15.31 | jagginess | daemon, there's btrfs but i think it's still in beta |
| 23:16.23 | jagginess | ya it is still in beta (but worth checking out for testing purposes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Btrfs ) |
| 23:16.57 | Jikai | anyone knowing how to deport sound card USB connection via ethernet with port control ? |
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| 23:18.51 | crash_ | does debian 6 has support for broadcom wifi/brcmsmac without using xxx-firmware? |
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| 23:19.32 | syslq | crash_: I don't think so |
| 23:19.54 | jagginess | Jikai, it's more efficient to setup a jukebox server .. like subsonic (it also supports music streams to applications directly for clients -- as well as for ipod, and possibly other mobile devices) |
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| 23:21.39 | crash_ | syslq: ok so i need ethernet connection first to download the right firmware after install? |
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| 23:22.30 | syslq | crash_: I think so yeah. Although it might be different now, I havent used linux desktop for two years |
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| 23:23.05 | crash_ | syslq: I see thank you :) you are using OSX or windows only now? |
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| 23:23.26 | LtL | crash_: yes you need the net, unless you have the package on media |
| 23:23.28 | H4x012 | guys do you know when cpanel WHM release for debian? |
| 23:23.30 | H4x012 | :/ |
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| 23:24.39 | crash_ | i thought the brcmsmac was already in the kernel :( |
| 23:25.44 | LtL | crash_: not sure what you need exactly but i'm guessing its broadcom fw-cutter or something like that, i'd have to look |
| 23:27.54 | crash_ | LtL: i think the closed source for it is WL and the open-source one is brcmsmac :) |
| 23:28.19 | Jikai | jagginess: first, sorry but by "deport" I meant "encapsulate" (sorry for my poor english ><) and second… Do you mean that with a software like subsonic I'd be able to control my USB soud card via ethernet ? |
| 23:28.36 | LtL | crash_: ask judd using the pciid |
| 23:28.48 | LtL | crash_: lspci -nn |
| 23:29.18 | crash_ | LtL: i will check that out |
| 23:29.34 | LtL | crash_: you'll need the hex id |
| 23:30.13 | jagginess | Jikai, I'm guessing you want to play music, that's why i mentioned subsonic. The subsonic server lets you have clients play music either through the client or through attached speakers on the server machine. (When clients request the server play through it's speakers, this is called "jukebox" mode) |
| 23:30.50 | jagginess | has music streaming from subsonic to his ipod |
| 23:31.30 | crash_ | LtL: what is the latest kernel for debian 6? |
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| 23:31.37 | Jikai | oh 😽 |
| 23:31.39 | Bartzy | Hi |
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| 23:31.47 | LtL | 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 23:32.00 | crash_ | LtL: thanks :) |
| 23:32.05 | jagginess | with backports its later i think |
| 23:32.06 | LtL | crash_: thats for x64 anyway |
| 23:32.07 | Jikai | hmmm, thanks, I'm going to give subsonic a try, then 😽 |
| 23:32.19 | Bartzy | when I add an IP address with ip addr add, a route is not added for the segment (192.168.1.0/24 goes to eth0, for example). Do I need to manually add a route with ip route add? Because with the old ifconfig configuration it was automatic... |
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| 23:32.36 | crash_ | Ltl: i have intel pentium P6100 x64 support so that will work fine. |
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| 23:32.48 | doublehp | anything better than xdotool to send keyboard strings via script ? |
| 23:33.09 | LtL | crash_: btw, thats the current stable kernel, backports have 3.x.x |
| 23:33.30 | Bartzy | doublehp: What's wrong with xdotool ? |
| 23:33.53 | crash_ | LtL: is backports stable enough to use daily? |
| 23:34.05 | doublehp | Bartzy: it alters the string depending on th ephysical layout ... |
| 23:34.17 | doublehp | and sending keysims do not help |
| 23:34.30 | LtL | crash_: some firmware requires a later kernel, but yes it's stable |
| 23:35.01 | LtL | , v kernel |
| 23:35.03 | judd | No package named 'kernel' was found in i386. |
| 23:35.11 | dvs | ,kernels |
| 23:35.12 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.4-trunk-686-pae (3.4.4-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-3-686-pae (3.2.21-3); wheezy: 3.2.0-3-686-pae (3.2.21-3); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.2.20-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-45); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-29) |
| 23:35.13 | LtL | , v linux-image |
| 23:35.14 | judd | No package named 'linux-image' was found in i386. |
| 23:35.20 | LtL | thx dvs |
| 23:35.25 | dvs | np |
| 23:37.30 | crash_ | LtL: ok i will try to enable backports when i have a installed debian, i have used ubuntu until now but i'm considering to changing to debian instead. |
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| 23:44.31 | jagginess | crash_, (dont mix debian with ubuntu repos of course) :) |
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| 23:45.11 | rue_mohr | anyone know where lynx downloads go? |
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| 23:45.40 | crash_ | jagginess: hehe i already know that is not gonna work the way i want anyway :P |
| 23:46.05 | simonlnu | rue_mohr: pwd iirc |
| 23:46.22 | rue_mohr | current dir? |
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| 23:46.30 | rue_mohr | I lost a knoppix image |
| 23:46.37 | rue_mohr | huh |
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| 23:46.47 | ManoftheSea | lost it? |
| 23:47.07 | LtL | rue_mohr: present working directory, or home is the guess |
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