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| 19:50.31 | mitchar | do you all host your own web apps? or do you use some shared hosting? i'm thinkin about hostgator maybe for my flask (python) application.. :) any suggestions? |
| 19:51.24 | sney | mitchar: that's not really a debian question, the various #defocus #debian-offtopic etc channels are more appropriate for hosting research |
| 19:52.09 | mitchar | sney: oops. sorry. |
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| 19:53.40 | The_ManU_212 | hi |
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| 19:53.58 | The_ManU_212 | how can i list the apckage which contains a specific file in vfs /? |
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| 19:54.40 | damacus | The_ManU_212: dpkg -S <file> |
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| 19:54.59 | damacus | eg, $ dpkg -S /bin/bash |
| 19:54.59 | damacus | bash: /bin/bash |
| 19:55.08 | Sanjuro | whats the easiest way to graphically connect to a debian box from a winblows box? |
| 19:55.18 | dvs | vnc |
| 19:55.19 | Sanjuro | xfce |
| 19:55.24 | damacus | vnc |
| 19:55.28 | nkuttler | graphically? |
| 19:55.33 | pparadis | freenx |
| 19:55.38 | pparadis | define "best" |
| 19:55.44 | pparadis | or "easiest" rather |
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| 19:56.11 | pparadis | are you talking about accessing a debian desktop, or are you talking about transferring files, what? |
| 19:56.13 | Sanjuro | just a nice easy setup that will allow me to get a full res desktop of my debian box when needed |
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| 19:56.30 | Sanjuro | yeah accessing a desktop, probably xfce |
| 19:56.30 | pparadis | Sanjuro: freenx will give you very close to native speed even over modest network links. |
| 19:56.36 | Sanjuro | hmmm |
| 19:56.59 | pparadis | if you decide to use VNC, be aware that it doesn't do any encryption by itself, so you'll probably want to tunnel it. |
| 19:57.13 | pparadis | also, it will be slower than freenox. |
| 19:57.16 | pparadis | freenx, rather |
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| 19:58.21 | Brushless | Hello everbody! I need help... i am trying to boot an new (armel) kernel on an old filesystem. The new kernel is 3.5 and the old rootfs works with a 2.6.31 kernel. |
| 19:59.04 | Brushless | I got an "working" uImage, but when it comes to load init, it presents a kernel panic: Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel. |
| 19:59.50 | Brushless | even if i pass init=/sbin/init it doesn't work.... |
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| 20:00.18 | Brushless | does anyone hace a clue, or know what can i do to try fixing it? |
| 20:00.23 | Brushless | *have |
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| 20:01.50 | nkuttler | !tell Brushless about armel |
| 20:01.55 | nkuttler | Brushless: i'd try the oftc channel |
| 20:04.19 | Brushless | thanks nkuttler i will try... |
| 20:04.32 | Rox64 | Hey guys, do you know what Wireless PCIs or Wifi USB adapters will work flawlessly on Debian Wheezy? I have bought a Wifi USB adapter which has a Realtek Rtl8192cu and even the latest drivers available on Realtek's website are slow and unstable. |
| 20:05.13 | dvs | Rox64: Install the firmware-realtek package to get the firmware |
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| 20:05.23 | dondelelcaro | Rox64: the in-kernel driver should be ok |
| 20:05.38 | Rox64 | dvs, I have firmware-realtek already installed. |
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| 20:06.28 | dvs | oh this is the special case |
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| 20:06.32 | Rox64 | dondelelcaro: the kernel driver didn't allow me to establish a connection, so I needed to compile the latest release and blacklist the kernel drive. |
| 20:06.34 | Rox64 | *driver |
| 20:06.41 | dvs | Rox64: http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x#Wheezy |
| 20:07.22 | dondelelcaro | Rox64: did it associate with the AP? what did dmesg say? |
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| 20:08.10 | Rox64 | dondelelcaro, I don't have the computer here, sorry. |
| 20:08.13 | dvs | dondelelcaro: there's a little more downloading to do. |
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| 20:08.47 | Rox64 | dvs: so I need to install firmware-realtek and download a firmware from Realtek's FTP server? |
| 20:08.53 | dvs | yup |
| 20:09.11 | Rox64 | I though installing firmware-realtek was enough. |
| 20:09.22 | dvs | nope |
| 20:09.32 | dvs | not according to the wiki |
| 20:09.38 | dondelelcaro | if it's a 8192CU, it should be enough |
| 20:09.45 | dondelelcaro | if it's a 8192U, it won't be enough |
| 20:09.53 | dondelelcaro | but the dmesg output will tell you in either case |
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| 20:10.08 | dvs | so CU isnt U based? |
| 20:10.21 | Rox64 | I think it's a 8192cu |
| 20:10.25 | dondelelcaro | they're two different boards |
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| 20:10.55 | Rox64 | Ah, it's an edup ep-n8508 adapter. |
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| 20:13.14 | Rox64 | So it seems I don't need to download a firmware from the FTP server. |
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| 20:14.12 | Rox64 | That's why I asked for another USB adapter or a Wireless PCI that doesn't need tweaks or configurating things, just plug and play :) |
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| 20:14.23 | dondelelcaro | Rox64: that usb adapter should just work |
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| 20:14.46 | Rox64 | Mmm, then I don't know why it's so slow. |
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| 20:14.59 | Rox64 | I can only get 200Kb/s |
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| 20:15.15 | dondelelcaro | wait, so it actually associates but the speed is slow? |
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| 20:15.33 | dvs | ... |
| 20:15.38 | Rox64 | Yup. |
| 20:15.52 | dondelelcaro | with which drivers? The in-kernel ones? |
| 20:16.04 | Rox64 | Nope, the in-kernel drivers doesn't even associate. |
| 20:16.17 | dondelelcaro | well, it's not suprising that the out of kernel drivers don't work particularly well |
| 20:16.23 | Rox64 | I needed to download the driver from Realtek's website and run install.sh. |
| 20:16.28 | dondelelcaro | you'll have to figure out why the in kernel drivers don't work |
| 20:16.32 | Rox64 | And then blacklisting the kernel drivers. |
| 20:16.54 | Rox64 | It seems it's a bug other distros like Ubuntu has too. |
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| 20:17.19 | Mephisto | has anyone ever experienced a weird tension that video playback on Debian gives to one's eyes? |
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| 20:18.08 | Mephisto | honestly, i'm not trolling anyone. I've just been having this weird issue and i'm not sure whether it's real or i'm just being paranoid. |
| 20:18.12 | Rox64 | This is the driver I downloaded: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=48&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#RTL8192CU |
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| 20:18.26 | Rox64 | It seems the in-kernel driver is just an older release. |
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| 20:19.20 | Sanjuro | pparadis: Could not connect to packages.debianbase.de:80 (89.0.102.90). - connect (111: Connection refused) when doing "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install freenx" |
| 20:19.33 | Sanjuro | any ideas? |
| 20:19.45 | Rox64 | Well, as far as I remember, the source code of the out of kernel driver doesn't menction amd64, whereas the computer has amd64. |
| 20:20.05 | Mephisto | it feels like it squints my eyes |
| 20:21.07 | sney | Sanjuro: try a different mirror (http.debian.net maybe) |
| 20:21.26 | Rox64 | Maybe the driver doesn't support 64bits. Also, when I unplug the adapter, I have weird text output on terminal, like the example in this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10323418&postcount=19 |
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| 20:21.47 | Sanjuro | I think its a specific source I added just to install freenx |
| 20:22.22 | sney | ah, indeed, well hopefully there's another one |
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| 20:26.47 | nyk2005 | I inadvertedly deleted /usr/bin/test. In what package is this binary contained, so I can re-install it? |
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| 20:27.19 | dvs | ,file /bin/test |
| 20:27.21 | judd | No packages in squeeze/i386 were found with that file. |
| 20:27.21 | KTO | q |
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| 20:27.25 | dvs | jeez! |
| 20:27.49 | Sanjuro | hmm might have found a source line that works |
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| 20:28.19 | nyk2005 | ,file /usr/bin/test |
| 20:28.20 | judd | No packages in squeeze/i386 were found with that file. |
| 20:28.26 | Sanjuro | nope, sources updated but still no freenx |
| 20:28.37 | nyk2005 | why? |
| 20:28.46 | nsadmin | test may be a builtin... let's see... |
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| 20:29.01 | KTO | ,file /usr/bin/file |
| 20:29.01 | nsadmin | , file bin/test |
| 20:29.02 | judd | No packages in squeeze/i386 were found with that file. |
| 20:29.02 | Kagee | Why must one be invited to #debian-next? |
| 20:29.03 | judd | No packages in squeeze/i386 were found with that file. |
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| 20:29.15 | nsadmin | must be a builtin |
| 20:29.31 | nyk2005 | nsadmin: so any way I can re-install the file? |
| 20:29.41 | streuner | Kagee: at OFTC, not here |
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| 20:29.49 | KTO | ,file /usr/bin/gedit |
| 20:29.50 | judd | No packages in squeeze/i386 were found with that file. |
| 20:29.53 | KTO | ?? |
| 20:30.01 | nsadmin | , file usr/bin/test |
| 20:30.02 | judd | No packages in squeeze/i386 were found with that file. |
| 20:30.09 | nyk2005 | ,file gedit |
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| 20:30.10 | nsadmin | , file usr/bin/gedit |
| 20:30.10 | judd | No packages in squeeze/i386 were found with that file. |
| 20:30.11 | judd | No packages in squeeze/i386 were found with that file. |
| 20:30.13 | KTO | judd obviously broken ? |
| 20:30.21 | nsadmin | looks that way |
| 20:30.26 | dvs | Ack! Debian has been emptied! |
| 20:30.30 | klys | !leafpad |
| 20:30.30 | nsadmin | , file bin/cat |
| 20:30.31 | judd | No packages in squeeze/i386 were found with that file. |
| 20:30.40 | nyk2005 | is there a web version of this? |
| 20:30.50 | nsadmin | it's UDD |
| 20:30.52 | streuner | nsadmin, thats getting boring :-P |
| 20:30.55 | nyk2005 | for searching files |
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| 20:30.57 | klys | http://packages.debian.org |
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| 20:31.12 | KTO | ( at the bottom: "Search the contents of packages" ) |
| 20:31.21 | nsadmin | streuner, just seeing if it's really broke |
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| 20:31.46 | nyk2005 | don't find anything for /usr/bin/test there |
| 20:32.24 | nsadmin | seems it is /usr/bin/test |
| 20:32.25 | nyk2005 | oh, I see it sorry |
| 20:32.53 | klys | ,file cat |
| 20:32.54 | abrotman | nsadmin: you can msg the bot to see if it's broken .. no need to flood the channel again |
| 20:32.55 | judd | No packages in squeeze/i386 were found with that file. |
| 20:33.09 | *** mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ |
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| 20:33.27 | nyk2005 | yes it's in coreutils, but when I do aptitude install coreutils, it won't do a re-install, because it's installed. and I don't think I can remove coreutils, because everything depends on it |
| 20:33.42 | abrotman | jeez .. |
| 20:33.50 | nyk2005 | how can I use apt to just re-write the files? |
| 20:34.11 | abrotman | nyk2005: aptitude reinstall packagefoo |
| 20:34.29 | nyk2005 | wow, it has this option! |
| 20:34.33 | nsadmin | abrotman, themill shoujld probably pull it down for a little while |
| 20:34.37 | abrotman | i know .. man pages |
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| 20:34.50 | abrotman | nsadmin: or you could stop endlessly having the bot spit stuff in the channel when it's obviously broken .. |
| 20:34.51 | Rox64 | nyk2005, or apt-get install --reinstall foo |
| 20:34.53 | abrotman | common sense .. i know ... |
| 20:35.00 | nyk2005 | ok, I try it, have to switch to my local network... thanks a lot! |
| 20:35.54 | klys | uname -r: 3.6.0-rc1 (with X) |
| 20:35.57 | nsadmin | abrotman, I'm not the only one. and I'm not doing now, so stop being so acusatory |
| 20:36.17 | abrotman | nsadmin: five people right before you tried it and failed, do you think you have special powers? |
| 20:36.50 | nyk2005 | I have to download the .deb package, because my server has no network connection at the time. I don't see a reinstall option for dpkg, is there any? |
| 20:36.54 | nsadmin | at the time it was inconclusive |
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| 20:37.01 | abrotman | sure .. |
| 20:37.15 | abrotman | nyk2005: dpkg -i foo.deb |
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| 20:37.24 | nyk2005 | this works? |
| 20:37.50 | nsadmin | it was the first thing to work... dpkg predates apt/apt-get/aptitude by alot |
| 20:38.06 | sunbeam | Hi, I've got a webserver. One specific folder, called /var/www/clients/client1/web7 (this is owned by the web7 user where i am the account holder of) I would like to use like it was a windows folder |
| 20:38.10 | sunbeam | Any idea how I can do this best? |
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| 20:38.48 | Rox64 | So, sorry for asking again, but do you know about good Wifi USB adapters that doesn't need compiling external drivers and doesn't produce kerneloops like the USB adapter I bought? |
| 20:39.19 | abrotman | Rox64: the atheros stuff is generally considered the easiest to work with |
| 20:39.33 | dvs | Rox64: I have a D-Link DWA-140 that doesn't use firmware |
| 20:40.17 | Rox64 | Do you just plug and play? |
| 20:41.06 | dvs | Rox64: Well, you still have to set up the connection to the AP but yeah, no extra firmware needed. |
| 20:41.32 | Rox64 | Is this adapter? http://www.dlink.com/ca/en/home-solutions/connect/adapters/dwa-140-wireless-n-usb-adapter |
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| 20:42.16 | dvs | yup |
| 20:42.44 | Rox64 | And I assume it won't be slow xD. |
| 20:43.10 | dvs | I have no complaints. I don't use it often. |
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| 20:44.48 | polyurethane | whats teh command for locking the screen? |
| 20:45.05 | Rox64 | Is this the same model? Amazon has many entries for D-Link DWA-140. http://www.amazon.com/D-Link-DWA-140-RangeBooster-802-11n-Wireless/dp/B0010T8X54/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1344285788&sr=1-1&keywords=dwa-140 |
| 20:45.30 | nsadmin | polyurethane, see if it's in the menu |
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| 20:46.52 | dvs | Rox64: Hardware revision B1 |
| 20:47.21 | themill | nsadmin: there's no need to pull down the bot because one command doesn't currently work. Please be turning brain on. |
| 20:48.07 | themill | (and a simple "themill: judd's "file" command doesn't seem to be working" would be enough) |
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| 20:49.50 | SmashingX | hey guys I have a question, do you know how can I know if my DVD supports -R DVD ? |
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| 20:50.14 | SmashingX | I meant +R |
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| 20:51.06 | Rox64 | Mmmm, I will try it. Thanks dvs and every user who has replied to me. |
| 20:51.25 | dvs | np |
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| 20:51.30 | dkr | SmashingX: look up the model number online to find the specs? |
| 20:51.49 | SmashingX | dkr: this is what it says: LG Electronics GH22NS50 22X SATA Super Multi DVD+/-RW Internal Drive (Black). |
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| 20:52.01 | SmashingX | so I guess it does what you think? |
| 20:52.38 | dkr | SmashingX: yeah, pretty sure that when it has a + and a - it supports both dvd-r and dvd+r |
| 20:52.41 | SmashingX | but the think is that I don't know if it would support double layer |
| 20:53.08 | SmashingX | do you think it does? |
| 20:53.51 | retnan | please guys, how do i disallow read access to /home directory |
| 20:54.31 | dvs | retnan: chmod o-rx /home |
| 20:54.32 | nsadmin | themill: judd's "file" command doesn't seem to be working |
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| 20:56.11 | retnan | dvs: does it stop someone or process from ls(isting) /home/doe |
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| 20:57.12 | dvs | retnan: no, but they have to know that /home/doe exists (i.e. they cannot do an ls to see it) |
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| 20:58.43 | retnan | dvs: nice one, do u think that's what some hosting companies do? |
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| 20:58.54 | dvs | no idea |
| 20:58.57 | nsadmin | retnan, good point. it's always a process that does it |
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| 20:59.10 | LinuxGuy2009 | I'm looking at http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ and I see that the number of critical bugs for testing is actually lower than the current stable. When that happens does that mean that testing can be expected to be as good as the current stable? Or is this just not the case at all? |
| 20:59.24 | dvs | not the case |
| 21:00.00 | nsadmin | LinuxGuy2009, depends on what the remaining bugs are |
| 21:00.33 | LinuxGuy2009 | nsadmin: Ok I knda figured. Just was curious |
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| 21:01.31 | sunbeam | damn, i just installed a lot packages that seemed unnecessary for GIT |
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| 21:01.39 | sunbeam | but i think some were already installed |
| 21:01.42 | retnan | nsadmin: dvs: i have lot's of virtual users whom i gave acess to ftp, apache. all the users have the same uid and i dont want each seeing each others files |
| 21:01.44 | sunbeam | any idea how i can remove these? |
| 21:02.11 | nsadmin | if all have the same, you're already screwed |
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| 21:02.49 | nsadmin | you need to give them each their own uid |
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| 21:03.16 | cyanboy | Hey, I want to creat a debian USB installer. But I don't know where to start. Which image do I have to download? |
| 21:03.29 | nsadmin | !ig |
| 21:03.29 | dpkg | The Installation Guide for Debian Squeeze (6.0) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/installmanual . See also <errata> <firmware images> <installer firmware> <release notes>. |
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| 21:03.48 | nsadmin | look at that thing, it tells you how to do a usb installer |
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| 21:06.04 | retnan | ok, thanks |
| 21:06.18 | cyanboy | I scrolled through and that was just very confusing. |
| 21:06.23 | polyurethane | I have no sound, why? :( |
| 21:06.27 | polyurethane | Recently installed Debian |
| 21:06.36 | nsadmin | polyurethane, deaf? |
| 21:06.36 | dvs | !alsa checklist |
| 21:06.36 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) squeeze: purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>. |
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| 21:07.30 | polyurethane | How do I add myself to the audio group? |
| 21:07.48 | grothendieck | man useradd |
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| 21:08.08 | MarcWeber | Is there an easy way to get default configure options of a package? I want to install a patched version |
| 21:08.12 | MarcWeber | Getting source is easy. |
| 21:09.18 | polyurethane | how do I exit out of man+ |
| 21:09.19 | polyurethane | ? |
| 21:09.24 | grothendieck | polyurethane: type 'q' |
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| 21:09.57 | polyurethane | thanks |
| 21:10.00 | grothendieck | np |
| 21:10.18 | grothendieck | so you need to use the -G flag to useradd |
| 21:11.25 | nsadmin | MarcWeber, look at debian/rules of the debianized source |
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| 21:11.47 | nsadmin | the ./configure invocation will probably be there |
| 21:12.01 | grothendieck | e.g, useradd -G audio `whoami` |
| 21:12.40 | sney | polyurethane: it is rude to ask the same question in both #debian channels |
| 21:12.45 | nsadmin | grothendieck, probably you are talking about usermod, and adduser is probably easier and less error-prone |
| 21:12.46 | dvs | grothendieck: or use addgroup |
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| 21:14.06 | grothendieck | nsadmin: oh, right...apparently I need to RTFM myself ;) |
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| 21:14.27 | hakansan | hi everybody |
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| 21:15.05 | nsadmin | grothendieck, no big deal... just know that useradd -G something `whoami` could create another user of the same name but new uid |
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| 21:15.46 | grothendieck | interesting |
| 21:16.04 | grothendieck | is there any good reason to have more than one user with the same name on a system? |
| 21:16.07 | nsadmin | because, isn't that what the command userADD is saying? :) |
| 21:16.47 | nsadmin | no, in fact that would be horribly confusing and have pther effects depending on the person |
| 21:17.03 | polyurethane | i'm already in audio group |
| 21:17.11 | nsadmin | oh, good :) |
| 21:17.13 | grothendieck | thenw hy would useradd allow that to happen? |
| 21:17.28 | nsadmin | dunno |
| 21:17.33 | grothendieck | why does it not just call to usermod if it sees the username already exists in the system |
| 21:17.36 | grothendieck | hm |
| 21:17.58 | grothendieck | that does not seem very robust! |
| 21:18.05 | grothendieck | but good to know, thanks |
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| 21:19.21 | nsadmin | grothendieck, those commands ( {user,group}{add,del,mod} ) should probably remain as they are, as they have core functionality. adduser is a wrapper around several of them |
| 21:19.33 | nsadmin | so perhaps what you're asking for is in adduser |
| 21:19.43 | grothendieck | oh |
| 21:19.44 | grothendieck | heh |
| 21:19.48 | grothendieck | right |
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| 21:20.01 | grothendieck | those commands are all terribly confusing |
| 21:20.19 | wilee-nilee | Hello, what is the update-grub command with grub2? |
| 21:20.24 | nsadmin | yes, I pretty much have to read the SYNOPSIS every time |
| 21:20.31 | chaddy | update-grub2 |
| 21:20.42 | nsadmin | surprise! |
| 21:20.43 | grothendieck | lol |
| 21:21.51 | webad_13 | how can I check channel that my wifi is on - went through iwconfig, ifconfig - unless I missed it it didn't appear there. Looking for answer such as channel 1-13 |
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| 21:22.53 | nsadmin | iwlist scan would tell you what channel each ap is on |
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| 21:23.13 | grothendieck | webad_13: wpa_cli or wpa_supplicant? |
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| 21:23.37 | wilee-nilee | chaddy, thanx, I'm moving the grub control from another open source install just wanted to check if it was different with debians grub2 setup |
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| 21:24.43 | webad_13 | grothendieck: supplicant |
| 21:24.44 | chaddy | wilee-nilee: might be worth checking you have os-prober, too, then |
| 21:25.12 | wilee-nilee | chaddy, its installed it showed the 4 other installs, good call though. ;) |
| 21:25.54 | webad_13 | grothendieck: I have aircrack so I could do the scan in that way and get it. But was wondering if such information is available somewhere already |
| 21:26.31 | nsadmin | wilee-nilee, I run grub and there's always at least two oses it can boot (depending on if my bigger drive is attached)... I picked one of those oses to control grub, and failed to install grub (or disabled existing grub) on the others |
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| 21:28.13 | wilee-nilee | nsadmin, strange sounds like you might have a gpt or eefi partitioning, mine is standard, never had a problem. |
| 21:28.35 | webad_13 | grothendieck: just cheking on syntax for them. Do you know how I could get the info quickly? |
| 21:29.22 | nsadmin | no, the internal is 500g and the esata is only 2t |
| 21:29.35 | nsadmin | they both have msdos partitions |
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| 21:30.16 | nsadmin | err partition tables |
| 21:30.35 | nsadmin | it's just more convenient to me to have the control in one place |
| 21:30.43 | wilee-nilee | nsadmin, there is a limit a disc can be read to on older setups could that be the problem? |
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| 21:31.07 | nsadmin | it's not a problem, it's a preference :) |
| 21:31.36 | aguitel_ | i want to boot with netinstall iso image ,how to put in the usb ? |
| 21:31.49 | wilee-nilee | nsadmin, honestly I don't understand your point then. ;) |
| 21:31.57 | nsadmin | well it's not a problem on my part, is there a problem on yours? |
| 21:32.17 | chaddy | aguitel_: think you want unetbootin or similar |
| 21:32.18 | nsadmin | something specific not going well? |
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| 21:32.38 | aguitel_ | chaddy, comnand dd work? |
| 21:32.43 | wilee-nilee | no I'm rather grub savvy, just some distros set up the use with different commands in some areas than the others |
| 21:33.19 | wilee-nilee | savvy on a god day anywat |
| 21:33.22 | webad_13 | dont see which option would make wpa_cli show the channel number, status does not show it |
| 21:33.24 | wilee-nilee | anyway* |
| 21:33.25 | chaddy | i honestly don't know, aguitel_, my box is very anti-usb booting so I don't do it much |
| 21:33.39 | nsadmin | oh, well for example newer grub has grub-install and update-grub whereas before, dists wrote those scripts |
| 21:35.13 | nsadmin | wilee-nilee, and, my point/preference is to have the control over the grub on the mbr on just one os (or consider mounting /boot on others) |
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| 21:36.15 | damacus | Plop is good.. http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/screenshots.html |
| 21:36.22 | wilee-nilee | nsadmin, ah, I see, I load and remove OS' so often I just put grub in the partition and let the contoller read it generally |
| 21:36.24 | themill | nsadmin: well done, Sherlock. |
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| 21:36.28 | damacus | ive used that for booting machines off usb that otherwise dont support it |
| 21:36.29 | nsadmin | if there's copies of grub.conf on multiple machines, they can become different from each other, and I just consider that a can of worms that can lead to extra work to determine what's going on |
| 21:36.40 | damacus | boot plop off a CD, then use plop to do whatever else |
| 21:37.07 | damacus | i like the fact that it looks like an old DOS game |
| 21:37.12 | jordanm | Are there any APIs to the Debian security tracker, or is HTML parsing pretty much it? |
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| 21:37.19 | chaddy | will look into it, damacus, cheers; though, I think I've finally settled on Debian |
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| 21:37.33 | damacus | good, debian is awesome. |
| 21:37.34 | nsadmin | themill, (last warning) your contempt is not welcome. I have recently submitted formal complaints over this behavior, and the next time it happens in any form, I will start another one. |
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| 21:38.33 | jordanm | formal complaints? I think the people to formally complain to pretend this channel doesn't exist |
| 21:39.02 | themill | nsadmin: Please feel free to demonstrate your intelligence then rather than continuing to be noisy in the channel |
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| 21:39.18 | nsadmin | that's the one. |
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| 21:40.26 | themill | nsadmin: if it's ok with you, I'll get back to fixing judd, shall I? |
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| 21:42.28 | rue_shop4 | is qcad not availabel under testing? |
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| 21:42.47 | ircleuser | hello |
| 21:43.28 | themill | rue_shop4: no, it's turned into "librecad" as a Qt4, Free replacement to qcad. |
| 21:43.28 | ircleuser | I have a very short question: how one can remove kernel modules from installer console...there is no rmmod |
| 21:43.48 | rue_shop4 | its a lib? |
| 21:43.54 | wilee-nilee | don't really know the difference here though |
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| 21:44.07 | ircleuser | please help |
| 21:44.11 | chaddy | rue_shop4: libre, Francais for free |
| 21:44.12 | themill | rue_shop4: no, libre-cad as in "free cad" |
| 21:44.12 | wilee-nilee | oops wrong channel |
| 21:44.20 | rue_shop4 | ah |
| 21:44.25 | rue_shop4 | unfortunate name |
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| 21:44.34 | rue_shop4 | ok that package dosn't come up either |
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| 21:44.58 | rue_shop4 | from ftp.ca.debian.org |
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| 21:45.11 | ircleuser | anyone? |
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| 21:45.56 | tharkun | Where does Debian store the documentation of fail2ban. The one shipped with the package is at most a pale drawing of what is needed. :( |
| 21:46.13 | rue_shop4 | oh, I think its called freecad |
| 21:46.27 | pparadis | tharkun: somewhere under /usr/share/doc ? |
| 21:46.59 | petemc | ircleuser: you can pass boot time arguments to blacklist modules |
| 21:47.06 | tharkun | pparadis: thanks but there you get only a few examples, changelogs and README docs. nothing really helpful |
| 21:47.10 | KTO | 0.15909090...___ POWER |
| 21:47.22 | ircleuser | aha....how do I do that? |
| 21:47.41 | themill | rue_shop4: no, definitely librecad and it is in wheezy |
| 21:47.52 | pparadis | tharkun: all i can really suggest is having a look at this --> http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/MANUAL_0_8 |
| 21:48.14 | pparadis | tharkun: and of course possibly contacting the package maintainer about perhaps including more documentation if possible. |
| 21:48.21 | petemc | ircleuser: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/s390/ch05s02.html.en - check bottom of that page |
| 21:48.27 | Gryfelhase | Hi kids... I have installed Debian Lenny with an ATI HD3200 onboard gfx card... and ati binary drivers installed. I begun learning c++ ith SDL and SDL_GetVideoInfo tells me, that there are NO blits accellerated... wheter hardware to hardware, nore color fills... nothing... |
| 21:48.36 | rue_shop4 | this is squeeze |
| 21:48.37 | pparadis | lenny? |
| 21:48.40 | rue_shop4 | whats squeeze? |
| 21:48.47 | pparadis | rue_shop4: lenny isn't supported anymore. |
| 21:48.51 | rue_shop4 | is wheezy testing? |
| 21:48.55 | KTO | jessie ? |
| 21:49.01 | pparadis | !tell rue_shop4 about releases |
| 21:49.02 | ircleuser | thanks |
| 21:49.03 | KTO | !jessie |
| 21:49.10 | Gryfelhase | pparadis: I know :) But I just hve an 3g connection |
| 21:49.20 | themill | rue_shop4: ahh if you're running squeeze, then you should get librecad from backports |
| 21:49.22 | Gryfelhase | with a 5GB limit/month |
| 21:49.24 | themill | dpkg: tell rue_shop4 about bdo |
| 21:49.24 | pparadis | Gryfelhase: really, lenny is not supported anymore. please upgrade to squeeze. |
| 21:49.34 | tharkun | pparadis: thanks for the fresh air. I'm used to reading onboard docs. As for submitting a bug, fail2ban is ipv4 only and we are heading into ipv6 time. I doubt it will be useful in the near future |
| 21:49.45 | ircleuser | would it by so much to ask for a rmmod which is not more than 2-3K maybe...anyway ty for info |
| 21:49.46 | pparadis | tharkun: yeah, good point |
| 21:50.02 | rue_shop4 | so wheezy is testing is one up from squeeze |
| 21:50.08 | rue_shop4 | so I'm on stable |
| 21:50.11 | rue_shop4 | hmm |
| 21:50.21 | Gryfelhase | pparadis: I KNOW... but maybe someone knows the awnser of my question... who can give me a hint what the problem is... the binary driver, the gfx card itself, SDL... |
| 21:50.37 | WinstonSmith | tharkun: you can use fail2ban to execute a command of your choosing, so it can be made IPv6 |
| 21:50.45 | rue_shop4 | stable is too out of date to use with my reprap, I'll have to upgrade everything, thanks |
| 21:51.41 | pparadis | rue_shop4: whoa now |
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| 21:51.57 | KTO | Gryfelhase: Did you use SDL_HWACCEL ? |
| 21:51.59 | rue_shop4 | I'v had to build 4 machines and install linux 6 times to try to get something workable for this machine |
| 21:52.30 | themill | tharkun: if you've got the the inclination and interest in fail2ban and ipv6, perhaps you'd like to do the honours on it, if it's not already been done. It should be a matter of a couple of regexps and different actions. |
| 21:52.33 | pparadis | rue_shop4: what specifically do you need that stable doesn't provide? you might find what you need in backports, or you might be able to backport your required stuff yourself. be aware that wheezy is indeed the current testing release, and although it's frozen it's firmly a matter of "yeah, it can/will still break on you" |
| 21:52.56 | rue_shop4 | stable dosn't have the library dependencies availabel to compile repsnapper |
| 21:53.05 | Gryfelhase | KTO: Aehm... hm... lol... no... I'll try.... thx for hint ... lol |
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| 21:54.32 | pparadis | rue_shop4: there are ways to convince apt that a certain library version is installed even if it isn't, but if it's a matter of a certain version _really_ being required, yeah you would need to use wheezy most likely --> http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 21:54.46 | WinstonSmith | i retract my statement :/ |
| 21:54.56 | rue_shop4 | repsnapper dosn't compile with gtk2.24 has to be 2.28 |
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| 21:55.35 | rue_shop4 | beat my head against a wall for a long time on that one |
| 21:55.53 | rue_shop4 | iot'd be nice if they just made a package for it |
| 21:56.19 | themill | rue_shop4: "they" are just volunteers. If this is a package you really want, perhaps you could volunteer? |
| 21:56.23 | tharkun | themill: Thanks for the invitation but my ability to tailor regexp is exactly defined this way. "If I need to solve a problem with regexp I have now two problems. The original one and the regexp." |
| 21:56.23 | rue_shop4 | I would, but it looks like it'd take me about a year and $200 to get the certification to make an official debian package :( |
| 21:56.37 | themill | tharkun: :) |
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| 21:56.57 | themill | rue_shop4: umm... it costs nothing to make debian packages |
| 21:57.00 | pparadis | rue_shop4: well, you could start by making a package yourself and offering it as an unofficial one for others to benefit from, and also |
| 21:57.01 | rue_shop4 | ferry |
| 21:57.04 | pparadis | !tell rue_shop4 about ftp |
| 21:57.06 | pparadis | argh |
| 21:57.09 | rue_shop4 | I I live in a remote area |
| 21:57.10 | pparadis | !tell rue_shop4 about rfp |
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| 21:57.17 | themill | rue_shop4: that doesn't matter |
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| 21:57.33 | pparadis | someone may well be interested in helping you package it, in other words. |
| 21:57.39 | rue_shop4 | from what I read, I have to PHYSICALLY meet with between 1 and 3 people who are already either debian sponsors or developers |
| 21:57.56 | rue_shop4 | :) I have a day job... |
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| 21:58.11 | themill | rue_shop4: not just to maintain packages. You only need that if you want to be able to upload independently. You're also assuming that the rest of us don't also have day jobs... |
| 21:58.11 | pparadis | and if you get a bit of interest from your own unofficial package, it may make it more likely that someone will have an interest in helping with the official one. worth a shot at least. |
| 21:58.24 | themill | dpkg: tell rue_shop4 about mentors |
| 21:58.25 | pparadis | indeed, most people here do have day jobs. |
| 21:58.28 | rue_shop4 | I would love to get certified tho, bring back xmms, nedit, and bring packages like repsnapper into the mix |
| 21:58.58 | KTO | themill: there's seriously a literal rule about physical meeting restrictions for independent uploading? @.@ |
| 21:59.22 | abrotman | KTO: how would we know you from some bum at the NSA that wants all our bases? |
| 21:59.22 | themill | KTO: unless you can establish that it's really just not feasible for you to do so, yes. |
| 21:59.31 | KTO | funnyyy |
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| 21:59.38 | KTO | yeah? |
| 21:59.45 | KTO | like SELinux isn't integrated ? |
| 21:59.46 | themill | KTO: people who can upload have root on your box. Think of it that way... |
| 21:59.48 | KTO | Hahaha |
| 22:00.15 | rue_shop4 | I looked into it all before, the abstract list of steps I found was not staightforward, but showed I would have MAJOR challanges meeting up with someone in the vancouver area (which only costs me about $80 or so to get to) |
| 22:00.31 | rue_shop4 | I can understand, cause the debian 'crew' needs to be secure |
| 22:00.44 | rue_shop4 | dont want just anyone becomming a depeloper/sponsor |
| 22:00.51 | Gryfelhase | KTO: Now, HWACELL is just a SDL_Surface Flag? But before I do anything usefull, SDL_GetVideoInfo tells me, that there are no blits accellerated at all |
| 22:01.07 | abrotman | rue_shop4: have you emailed the local LUG ? |
| 22:01.15 | themill | rue_shop4: as I said, you can maintain packages without that travelling step. |
| 22:01.15 | KTO | Gryfelhase: Are you calling SDL_GetVideoInfo BEFORE or AFTER SDL_SetVideoMode ? |
| 22:01.30 | Gryfelhase | after |
| 22:01.44 | rue_shop4 | pparadis, lets go the other way around on this conversation |
| 22:01.49 | KTO | Gryfelhase: exactly, then you need to pass SDL_HWACCEL to SDL_SetVideoMode |
| 22:02.15 | rue_shop4 | can you suggest step 1 for me to get into a position to bring repsnapper into the debian package repository |
| 22:02.29 | tharkun | rue_shop4: You don't have to travel, Maybe on one vacation when you are off your $DAY_JOB you can meet some of this strange specimens which call themselves dd :) |
| 22:02.30 | rue_shop4 | abrotman, ok, who is the local LUG |
| 22:03.06 | rue_shop4 | tharkun, vancouver area, who do I get ahold of |
| 22:03.41 | themill | rue_shop4: have a first bash at making a package -- read the new maintainer guide (/msg dpkg nmg) for a walk through on how to do this |
| 22:03.46 | Gryfelhase | KTE: In docu for SDL 1.2 (lenny) hwacell is not listed as flag for SDL_SetVideoMode |
| 22:03.52 | rue_shop4 | I'm not trying to mkake you do all the work, I'v been thru this beofre and went round in a circle |
| 22:03.56 | Gryfelhase | aehm... KTO |
| 22:04.37 | Flashtek | anything i need to do, aside from enable the localnet for http access, to make squid cache stuffs over the network ? |
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| 22:05.06 | themill | rue_shop4: focus on the packaging to start with. Keysigning is separate to that. |
| 22:05.09 | KTO | Gryfelhase: "The possible values for the flags parameter are the same used by the SDL_Surface structure." - http://sdl.beuc.net/sdl.wiki/SDL_SetVideoMode |
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| 22:05.26 | rue_shop4 | ok |
| 22:05.57 | rue_shop4 | I have a command line utility, mind if I start with that? |
| 22:06.12 | rue_shop4 | its a nice simple thing |
| 22:06.13 | abrotman | rue_shop4: http://www.meetup.com/VanLUG-BC/ .. though the website is MIA today |
| 22:06.33 | Gryfelhase | KTO: Oh, shame on me... thx alot :) |
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| 22:07.02 | KTO | !tell rue_shop about wnpp |
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| 22:07.37 | dlynes | abrotman, do you know if there's a lug in hamilton at all? |
| 22:07.46 | KTO | !tell rue_shop4 about wnpp |
| 22:08.13 | abrotman | dlynes: dvs may, but he's not here right now |
| 22:08.25 | dlynes | abrotman, ah, ok....thanks |
| 22:08.55 | abrotman | dlynes: btw, played at your stadium :) |
| 22:08.56 | rue_shop4 | is it agreed I should start (step 0) by making a basic debian package for a program |
| 22:09.09 | abrotman | dlynes: and your amusement park :) |
| 22:09.12 | dlynes | abrotman, played at ivor wynne? you're in the cfl? |
| 22:09.27 | dlynes | abrotman, and we don't have an amusement park |
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| 22:09.43 | KTO | rue_shop4: did you read about WNPP ? |
| 22:09.52 | abrotman | dlynes: http://www.hlug.ca/ |
| 22:10.07 | abrotman | dlynes: I was in marching band, played at a tigers game, and you have Wonderland |
| 22:10.42 | KTO | rue_shop4: I'd suggest you simultaneously recommend repsnapper to build debian packages, and an inclusion at WNPP |
| 22:10.44 | abrotman | dlynes: not sure how active that group is, a toronto group would probably be better |
| 22:10.58 | dlynes | abrotman, ah....yeah...Wonderland's nowhere near here....it's up in Concord/Maple/Vaughan |
| 22:11.02 | abrotman | dlynes: http://gtalug.org/wiki/Main_Page |
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| 22:11.15 | abrotman | looks at evil ChanServ |
| 22:11.18 | dlynes | abrotman, At least 60km from here |
| 22:11.28 | abrotman | close enough |
| 22:11.36 | themill | (judd's file should be fixed now -- filesystem reorganisation fixed!) |
| 22:11.43 | dlynes | abrotman, lol....that's like saying Chilliwack is close to Vancouver :o |
| 22:11.50 | abrotman | it is! |
| 22:12.10 | abrotman | dlynes: anyway .. back to on topic, toronto lug is probably larger, and has better programs |
| 22:12.39 | dlynes | abrotman, yeah...I know Hamilton has a hacker club, but never heard of the lug |
| 22:13.39 | dlynes | abrotman, btw...fwiw, ivor wynne's the best place in canada to see a cfl game |
| 22:13.52 | abrotman | is that where i was? |
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| 22:14.05 | dlynes | abrotman, if you were in the ti-cat's stadium, yeah |
| 22:14.24 | abrotman | ah okay |
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| 22:14.29 | abrotman | looks at chanserv |
| 22:14.32 | *** mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
| 22:14.53 | dlynes | abrotman, way cheaper than a lions' game, too |
| 22:14.53 | tharkun | abrotman: Can I have supercow powers and a lolipop? |
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| 22:15.01 | abrotman | tharkun: apt-get moo |
| 22:15.12 | tharkun | lol |
| 22:15.19 | tharkun | !coffee abrotman |
| 22:15.19 | dpkg | decants a fine broth of fair trade Jamaican Blue Mountain for abrotman, courtesy of tharkun |
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| 22:15.35 | KTO | dpkg, http://t.qkme.me/3orbkj.jpg |
| 22:15.36 | dpkg | no idea, KTO |
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| 22:16.37 | KTO | python -c "import this" |
| 22:16.44 | aguitel | abrotman, i want to make usb booteable with wheezy netinstall ,how to do that |
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| 22:17.56 | abrotman | aguitel: just like the squeeze netinst |
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| 22:18.47 | aguitel | abrotman, i did with unetbootin but when my system boot it freeze in the midle of the work |
| 22:19.36 | abrotman | aguitel: unetbootin does not work |
| 22:19.42 | abrotman | read the install guide, follow the instructions |
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| 22:22.05 | aguitel | abrotman, what link for this install guide ? |
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| 22:22.21 | streuner | !ig |
| 22:22.21 | dpkg | The Installation Guide for Debian Squeeze (6.0) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/installmanual . See also <errata> <firmware images> <installer firmware> <release notes>. |
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| 22:30.18 | KTO | !jessie |
| 22:30.18 | dpkg | The release following wheezy will be called "jessie" (the cowgirl in Toy Story 2) and will be Debian 8.0. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/07/msg00004.html |
| 22:30.45 | KTO | !tell KTO -about [ig] -for [jessie] |
| 22:30.57 | abrotman | ... |
| 22:31.26 | KTO | http://t.qkme.me/3pt4m7.jpg |
| 22:31.58 | abrotman | KTO: please stop repeating that URL |
| 22:32.18 | KTO | but but but second one doesn't have overlain text ? ? ? |
| 22:32.26 | abrotman | not amused |
| 22:32.32 | abrotman | try #debian-offtopic if you want to horse around |
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| 22:35.34 | Taurita | oh dios |
| 22:35.39 | Taurita | vais a meter a las vacas y los toros aqui? |
| 22:35.40 | Taurita | q locura no |
| 22:35.41 | Taurita | mu |
| 22:35.48 | streuner | !es |
| 22:35.48 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 22:36.08 | Taurita | mu |
| 22:36.10 | Taurita | muuuuuuuuuuu |
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| 22:36.25 | abrotman | just a second earlier :) |
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| 22:36.49 | streuner | one second too late |
| 22:38.12 | KTO | one second too present |
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| 22:39.53 | cyberpunkarch | i'm having some big time problems with open source / ati fglrx driver support my X won't load up. |
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| 22:40.00 | abrotman | with which one? |
| 22:40.03 | cyberpunkarch | says my adapter is not found |
| 22:40.15 | abrotman | and which card? (lspci -nn | grep VGA) |
| 22:40.17 | tharkun | pparadis: thanks that link is great. |
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| 22:40.27 | cyberpunkarch | oh i have a AMD Radeon HD 6450 |
| 22:41.04 | cyberpunkarch | i got linux mint 13 on my other hard drive and it working with ATI drivers |
| 22:41.20 | gnarface | cyberpunkarch: you may want to run that lspci command just to make sure it shows up first. always verify your hardware before beating your head against the software |
| 22:41.25 | cyberpunkarch | i'm using debian squeeze if ur wondering |
| 22:41.43 | cyberpunkarch | i know my card i installed it i bought it lol |
| 22:41.51 | cyberpunkarch | i install the ati prop on arch linux |
| 22:42.30 | cyberpunkarch | its just i have no idea man .. i got everything install right... but when i do a aticonfig --initial |
| 22:42.36 | gnarface | well, chances are your issue is a version problem then. maybe your version of xorg or your kernel or the ati driver itself are out-of-date or of incompatible/buggy versions |
| 22:42.37 | cyberpunkarch | it says adapter not found |
| 22:42.45 | cyberpunkarch | aaaa |
| 22:42.53 | abrotman | cyberpunkarch: man radeon .. is it listed? |
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| 22:42.57 | abrotman | kind of doubt it |
| 22:42.59 | cyberpunkarch | that could be it but i fallow the wiki on debian for squeeze |
| 22:43.15 | cyberpunkarch | let me go to tty2 ill check for u |
| 22:44.59 | cyberpunkarch | ok |
| 22:45.12 | polyurethane | !ask installing java |
| 22:45.22 | cyberpunkarch | the lastest ati radeon hd is like int the 4000+ |
| 22:45.24 | cyberpunkarch | thats what it says |
| 22:45.39 | cyberpunkarch | hmm for hd 6450 |
| 22:45.48 | cyberpunkarch | this card been nothing but trouble :) |
| 22:45.52 | cyberpunkarch | :( i meant |
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| 22:46.21 | cyberpunkarch | i don't understand isn't linux mint 13 based on debian squeeze ? |
| 22:46.59 | cyberpunkarch | why would my ati graphics work on linux mint 13 and ubuntu 12.04 systems and also on arch linux but not on debian :( |
| 22:47.19 | cyberpunkarch | i do lspci |
| 22:47.55 | cyberpunkarch | when i do lspci | grep VGA it says AMD radeon HD 6450 |
| 22:48.19 | cyberpunkarch | hmm it could be the xorg 1.11 |
| 22:48.32 | cyberpunkarch | anyways thanks for the help i might come back later |
| 22:48.34 | cyberpunkarch | cheers |
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| 22:50.10 | Taurita | q pasa |
| 22:50.12 | Taurita | en debian |
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| 22:50.42 | sunbeam | Any GIT users for debian in here? |
| 22:50.43 | Taurita | zcom no ha entrado |
| 22:50.45 | Taurita | yo no veo nada |
| 22:50.47 | cyberpunkarch | ok i'm in my mint system im gonna do some research .. this is a bloody bug something is wrong here |
| 22:50.49 | Taurita | me voy entonces |
| 22:50.53 | Taurita | aqui todos en inglés |
| 22:50.56 | Taurita | pues vaya fuck |
| 22:50.59 | gnarface | Taurita: this is an english speaking channel |
| 22:51.02 | polyurethane | when I do java -version it says I have java installed but Google Chrome doesn't recognize it? |
| 22:51.07 | cyberpunkarch | i signed up to the git page |
| 22:51.09 | cyberpunkarch | brb |
| 22:51.10 | gnarface | Taurita: there is a spanish channel for debian .... |
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| 22:51.40 | polyurethane | when I do java -version it says I have java installed but Google Chrome doesn't recognize it? |
| 22:51.50 | grothendieck | !es |
| 22:51.50 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 22:51.55 | Taurita | gnarface cuando quieras y donde quieras |
| 22:51.59 | Taurita | 69 ? |
| 22:52.06 | Taurita | xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 22:52.26 | gnarface | :-| |
| 22:52.48 | gnarface | Taurita: no thanks. do you have a debian support question? (in english, please?) |
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| 22:53.50 | BlouBlou | hi |
| 22:54.11 | Taurita | gnarface tu muy simpatico |
| 22:54.14 | Taurita | jaj |
| 22:54.34 | Taurita | I have a bot, for name Vacabot |
| 22:54.35 | cyberpunkarch | thats the problem eh xorg ver 1.7 on squeeze wooo |
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| 22:54.42 | Taurita | muu |
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| 22:55.01 | cyberpunkarch | my card is newer so it won't support.. any idead how u can upgrade ur xorg to 1.12 ? |
| 22:55.12 | cyberpunkarch | on debian squeeze ? |
| 22:55.27 | gnarface | cyberpunkarch: first check for a backported xorg that is new enough |
| 22:55.42 | gnarface | dpkg, tell cyberpunkarch about backports |
| 22:55.58 | cyberpunkarch | yeah i just read that thanks man |
| 22:56.00 | cyberpunkarch | :P |
| 22:56.00 | grothendieck | !squeeze-backports |
| 22:56.00 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg>, <bdo NEW>. |
| 22:56.07 | abrotman | grothendieck: you can msg the bot |
| 22:56.09 | abrotman | and pleaes do |
| 22:56.23 | grothendieck | I did it for cyberpunkarch |
| 22:56.25 | cyberpunkarch | whats the deb source ? |
| 22:56.40 | cyberpunkarch | is that the deb source ? |
| 22:56.46 | grothendieck | cyberpunkarch: see backports.debian.org/Instructions |
| 22:56.48 | abrotman | grothendieck: /msg dpkg bottell |
| 22:57.02 | grothendieck | ah thanks |
| 22:57.35 | cyberpunkarch | thanks man |
| 22:57.41 | grothendieck | np |
| 22:58.37 | cyberpunkarch | ok haha ill figured this out... i dont like ubuntu too much its not really debian they ruin it no offense to the ones that love ubuntu... i mean its a great system ill still keep it on my ide drive but i want debian squeeze on my sata |
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| 23:00.20 | cyberpunkarch | ok im gonna edit my /etc/apt/source.list ill be back with some more results ... im gonna be in tty for awhile ill talk to u people later and let yeah know how i made out.. cheers thanks again.. in the mean time if ur interested u can check out my channel @ wwww.youtube.com/tuxhat |
| 23:00.30 | cyberpunkarch | cheers |
| 23:00.57 | sunbeam | i'd like to see when the package curl was installed, and were i need it for |
| 23:01.01 | sunbeam | any idea how I can do this? |
| 23:01.27 | streuner | curl is similar to wget |
| 23:01.57 | streuner | usually used in apt-file |
| 23:02.47 | streuner | sunbeam: check out dpkg.log if you interested when curl is installed |
| 23:03.22 | sunbeam | streuner: i need this for my webserver? |
| 23:03.30 | streuner | no |
| 23:03.49 | sunbeam | i think i used it the last months, i just cannot remember what it was for |
| 23:03.57 | streuner | you dont need curl in order to run a webserver |
| 23:04.17 | streuner | do you have apt-file installed? |
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| 23:04.46 | gnarface | streuner: you don't need it to run a webserver but its very commonly used with php |
| 23:05.00 | streuner | hm |
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| 23:05.14 | abrotman | sunbeam: time stamp on /usr/share/doc/curl perhaps .. and aptitude why curl |
| 23:05.49 | gnarface | or just dpkg -l |grep curl |
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| 23:06.52 | sunbeam | i rkhunter Recommends wget | curl | links | elinks | lynx |
| 23:06.59 | abrotman | there you go |
| 23:07.04 | streuner | sunbeam: if thats the case (php), you have more headaches then |
| 23:07.07 | abrotman | gnarface: he wanted to know why it was in stalled ... |
| 23:07.10 | sunbeam | ii php5-curl 5.3.3-7+squeeze9 CURL module for php5 |
| 23:07.17 | abrotman | .... |
| 23:08.05 | gnarface | abrotman: i know. i was just going for a lucky guess |
| 23:08.49 | sunbeam | apt-get remove --auto-remove build-essential libxslt1.1 libxslt1-dev libxml2 libreadline5-dev |
| 23:09.02 | sunbeam | can i do this without bringing other packages (like webserver ones, apache etc) in danger? |
| 23:09.17 | gnarface | uh |
| 23:09.24 | gnarface | stuff in php requires libxml2 i belive |
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| 23:10.06 | bintut | waves |
| 23:10.16 | sunbeam | hmm |
| 23:10.22 | bintut | i am on linux and i want to use tcpdump or tshark to capture packets. i want to start on udp. what is the safest value to use for snaplen if i just want to know only the time, src ip, src port, dst ip, dst port, and protocol? |
| 23:10.28 | sunbeam | so no other ways determining whether i need these installed ? |
| 23:10.32 | abrotman | bintut: which linux are you on ? |
| 23:10.47 | bintut | abrotman: debian squeeze |
| 23:10.59 | abrotman | bintut: you want to use tcpdump to capture udp packets? |
| 23:11.25 | gnarface | sunbeam: oh there is, just say apt-cache rdepends [package name], i think |
| 23:11.38 | abrotman | bintut: oh .. that's not what you're asking .. nevemrind |
| 23:11.39 | themill | or "aptitude why packagename" |
| 23:11.56 | abrotman | gnarface: i told him about 'aptitude why' about 10 minutes ago ... |
| 23:12.29 | abrotman | bintut: sorry, misread |
| 23:12.40 | bintut | abrotman: yes, i want to capture packets but start first on udp. i am asking particularly the safest value to use for snaplen just to get the result i need |
| 23:12.48 | sunbeam | gnarface: that also shows uninstalled packages |
| 23:13.05 | abrotman | sunbeam: aptitude why foo |
| 23:13.13 | sunbeam | abrotman: ok sorry |
| 23:13.15 | sunbeam | i A dpkg-dev Recommends build-essentia |
| 23:13.16 | abrotman | third time ... |
| 23:13.20 | sunbeam | ok ok ok |
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| 23:13.49 | sunbeam | this means i cannot remove this right? |
| 23:14.00 | abrotman | bintut: seems like an easy thing to experiemnt with ? |
| 23:14.04 | midkniht | whats the best way to fsck to do a full test on a drive to mark bad sectors before install? |
| 23:14.17 | abrotman | sunbeam: /msg dpkg apt recommends |
| 23:15.09 | sunbeam | and build-essential is one of thenm |
| 23:15.12 | sunbeam | them |
| 23:15.18 | grothendieck | midkniht: check out smartctl |
| 23:15.34 | midkniht | i am |
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| 23:15.40 | midkniht | DISK FAILURE IS IMMINENT |
| 23:15.44 | grothendieck | then that is what you are probably looking for |
| 23:15.46 | midkniht | but i want to use it anyway |
| 23:15.47 | midkniht | heh |
| 23:15.52 | grothendieck | lol good luck ;) |
| 23:15.56 | grothendieck | get a new disk |
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| 23:15.59 | grothendieck | save yourself the headache |
| 23:16.06 | bintut | abrotman: what snaplen value do you think is the safest to use? |
| 23:16.13 | midkniht | just using it for my spare laptop |
| 23:16.18 | abrotman | bintut: honestly, not a clue .. |
| 23:16.23 | midkniht | i guess i could setup netboot |
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| 23:16.24 | midkniht | why not |
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| 23:16.43 | grothendieck | midkniht: if you have a lot of bad sectors, things will not work correctly |
| 23:17.12 | bintut | abrotman: it's ok. thanks. :) |
| 23:17.16 | grothendieck | like system processes not being able to find their PID file or your config files getting corrupted |
| 23:17.32 | midkniht | well i would really like to use it for writes, but use the boot cd for the OS |
| 23:17.45 | midkniht | and swap |
| 23:17.51 | midkniht | swap is good |
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| 23:18.01 | grothendieck | yah swap won't work like you want it to with a bunch of bad blocks |
| 23:18.18 | midkniht | damn |
| 23:18.19 | sunbeam | abrotman: just a question, do you think these packages can provide security issues? |
| 23:18.19 | grothendieck | you can tell the OS to ignore bad blocks somehow but I am not sure how |
| 23:18.30 | midkniht | cant i just block off like everything near whats bad |
| 23:18.32 | sunbeam | abrotman: i mean having them installed? or performance issues? |
| 23:18.48 | grothendieck | midkniht: yes but that's a temporary fix at best |
| 23:18.56 | grothendieck | you will start getting more and more fragmentation |
| 23:19.02 | grothendieck | as the disk fails worse and worse |
| 23:19.12 | sunbeam | abrotman: apt-get install build-essential libxslt1.1 libxslt1-dev libxml2 libreadline5-dev |
| 23:19.15 | sunbeam | and |
| 23:19.17 | sunbeam | abrotman: apt-get install curl libcurl4-openssl-dev |
| 23:19.20 | midkniht | ill have more $ for disks later |
| 23:19.28 | midkniht | just need a computer to code on atm |
| 23:19.41 | grothendieck | sunbeam: I tink the package is libreadline5-gplv2-dev |
| 23:20.01 | sunbeam | Thats not the one i installed |
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| 23:20.38 | grothendieck | sunbeam: hm, maybe that is an Ubuntu thing (I just installed it in an ubuntu VM and it says libreadline5-dev has no candidates for install, did you mean.." |
| 23:20.51 | sunbeam | ok |
| 23:21.04 | grothendieck | yah in debian it is libreadline5-dev |
| 23:21.06 | grothendieck | nevermind |
| 23:21.07 | sunbeam | Well if anybody knows whether its good or bad these packages are installed |
| 23:21.10 | midkniht | hrmm |
| 23:21.20 | midkniht | netboot aint a bad idea really |
| 23:21.28 | grothendieck | midkniht: yah I would just do that |
| 23:22.10 | abrotman | sunbeam: it's probably doing nothing .. |
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| 23:35.13 | sunbeam | abrotman: well, as I read it, and the few packages I googled, it doesn't look like these are a huge amount of resources (as afaik none run in daemon mode) and neither are they server (port opened) right? |
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