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| 00:00.53 | trysten | heoa: it was literally turned off. amixer -c0 Capture toggle |
| 00:01.08 | trysten | heoa: for some reason, alsamixer did not reveal the mute toggle |
| 00:01.17 | maicod | after having used a certain usb wifi dongle and removing it and using a different wifi dongle it seems to have rememberred that wlan0 was used by the old dongle and refuses to use wlan0 but uses wlan1 instead. how can I make it use wlan0 ? |
| 00:02.28 | trysten | maicod: well, perhaps you should approach the problem a different way. if i were you i might try making one virtual device that combines wlan0 and wlan1 and just point your applications at the virtual device |
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| 00:04.20 | maicod | trysten: I'm just using a raspberry pi and don't know alot about linux. just wondering what file I can clear to make it forget the formerly attached wifi dongles |
| 00:04.54 | trysten | maicod: i suck at that sort of stuff. i usually solve it by restarting :( |
| 00:05.05 | trysten | maicod: creating the virtual device shouldn't be hard, though.. |
| 00:05.50 | maicod | trysten: I restarted but it doesnt loose the memort of the old stick |
| 00:05.54 | maicod | memory |
| 00:06.20 | maicod | thanks for thinking along anyways |
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| 00:06.53 | trysten | maicod: you restarted and it's still registering the only wifi device as wlan1?! |
| 00:07.01 | maicod | yes ! |
| 00:07.21 | trysten | maicod: i think that's very unusual. |
| 00:07.30 | maicod | yeah indeed |
| 00:07.47 | maicod | with a new dongle it starts using wlan1 |
| 00:07.55 | maicod | the old dongle is removed |
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| 00:08.08 | maicod | i'll restart one more time to be sure |
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| 00:08.26 | trysten | maicod: restart with no wifi device, then plug in what showed up as wifi1 before |
| 00:08.33 | maicod | ok h |
| 00:08.49 | maicod | think I did that before but will try once more |
| 00:09.28 | maicod | I think it has to do with HAL ? |
| 00:10.12 | maicod | ok system halted and power cycled and now inserting the dongle |
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| 00:10.50 | maicod | wlan1 again ! |
| 00:10.57 | maicod | if I type ifconfig |
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| 00:12.31 | ManoftheSea | maicod: did you delete the udev for the wlan0? |
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| 00:12.42 | ManoftheSea | Also, I shouldn't be supporting you on raspbian. |
| 00:12.54 | trysten | laughs |
| 00:12.57 | Diopter | maicod: You could try deleting /etc/udev/rules.d/70-net-persistent.rules. Or whatever it is, similarly named |
| 00:13.07 | Diopter | Then rmmod the module, and modprobe it again |
| 00:13.10 | maicod | its not raspbian its debian (the old image released on 19-4-2012) |
| 00:13.24 | ManoftheSea | in debian, /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net-rules will associate a MAC and wlanX |
| 00:13.26 | maicod | thanks ManoftheSea and Diopter |
| 00:13.30 | maicod | cool |
| 00:13.38 | maicod | thats the info I was looking for :) |
| 00:14.05 | ManoftheSea | Diopter has the name right. |
| 00:14.15 | ManoftheSea | 70-persistent-net.rules |
| 00:14.17 | maicod | ok |
| 00:14.19 | Diopter | gogo gadget memory |
| 00:14.39 | maicod | thanks for helping |
| 00:14.43 | Diopter | Yarp |
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| 00:15.06 | ManoftheSea | deleting the file will forget all of your ethX, wlanX, and panX, I believe |
| 00:15.29 | ManoftheSea | Where, if you surgically rip out lines that match your card, you need not throw the baby with the bathwater. |
| 00:15.36 | Diopter | nods |
| 00:15.58 | maicod | I see the 2 dongles in the filr |
| 00:15.59 | maicod | file |
| 00:16.00 | ManoftheSea | If, on the other hand, you don't ever want memory, you can lobotomize /usr/lib/udev/write_net_rules by chmod a-x |
| 00:16.21 | maicod | OK :) |
| 00:16.24 | ManoftheSea | er, /lib/udev/write_net_rules\ |
| 00:16.37 | maicod | what does the \ do ? |
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| 00:17.01 | maicod | never seen a backslash in a linux path |
| 00:17.11 | ManoftheSea | I mistyped. /lib/udev/write_net_rules |
| 00:17.13 | Gargantua | lol |
| 00:17.18 | maicod | ok :) |
| 00:17.21 | Gargantua | maybe the file's name is "write_net_rules "? |
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| 00:18.22 | maicod | I don't care if its saving the info since after trying out my wifi dongles I'll choose the most appropriate one (not all seem to work so good with the Raspberry Pi) |
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| 00:20.04 | Diopter | Probably moreso not all work so good on linux :P |
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| 00:20.50 | maicod | oh LOL :) |
| 00:21.06 | maicod | can one say realtek works better than ralink or vv ? |
| 00:21.10 | ManoftheSea | maicod: then you might want to chmod a-x /lib/udev/write_net_rules |
| 00:21.22 | ManoftheSea | Get an Atheros. |
| 00:21.25 | maicod | ok will do that cause it seems handy |
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| 00:21.26 | ManoftheSea | yay atheros. |
| 00:21.30 | maicod | ah atheros |
| 00:21.46 | ManoftheSea | 5k, 9k... Source in the linux kernel. |
| 00:21.59 | maicod | what does 5K or 9K mean? |
| 00:22.00 | Diopter | broadcom is hit or miss, atheros is pretty great all around, ralink's meh, realtek is mostly decent, no idea about vv |
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| 00:22.10 | ManoftheSea | they're atheros chips. |
| 00:22.13 | Gargantua | ManoftheSea: isn't that amazing? |
| 00:22.14 | maicod | vv means vice versa :) |
| 00:22.26 | Diopter | Lulz. |
| 00:22.27 | ManoftheSea | Gargantua: what's amazing? |
| 00:22.35 | Gargantua | kernel's source |
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| 00:22.58 | maicod | is there only like 3 wifi chip makers ? |
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| 00:24.34 | Diopter | There's 4 or 5. Intel is another big maker, but you can't usually find their chips outside of mPCIe cards and such |
| 00:25.45 | maicod | oh right |
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| 00:26.24 | maicod | and tablet PCs just use one of the big 3 ? |
| 00:27.14 | Diopter | Probably |
| 00:27.29 | maicod | or just any other integrated system :) |
| 00:28.12 | maicod | btw the deletion of the file helped give me back wlan0 :) |
| 00:30.23 | ManoftheSea | yep. |
| 00:30.26 | ManoftheSea | good work |
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| 00:30.32 | maicod | :) |
| 00:33.05 | maicod | thanks for the help. i'm out |
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| 00:40.17 | qw12 | hi how to remove all empty lines and lines with whitespace in sed ? |
| 00:40.19 | qw12 | i was able to remove empty lines, but not those with whitespace |
| 00:40.21 | qw12 | sed '/s^\s*/d' didn't work |
| 00:40.31 | qw12 | i meant sed '/^\s*/d' didn't work |
| 00:42.35 | Tramp | qw12: sed is not Perl |
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| 00:43.14 | qw12 | Tramp: everyone knows that, can you tell how to do with sed ? |
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| 00:43.47 | Tramp | qw12: you don't seem to know, because you use "\s" as if it had a special meaning to sed |
| 00:44.08 | pparadis | qw12: this really isn't a debian question. you might try #bash or #linux |
| 00:45.50 | Tramp | or even ##sed |
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| 01:03.26 | ManoftheSea | mentis__: in a second location? |
| 01:03.38 | ManoftheSea | If not, "mount -o remount,ro /" |
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| 01:04.03 | ManoftheSea | if yes... maybe "mount -o bind,ro / /target" |
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| 01:07.21 | trysten | Will use 5,543 kB of disck space DL Size: 308 MB |
| 01:07.23 | trysten | awesome. |
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| 01:30.53 | shaullx | there's an offset on all memory calculations in all OS's afaik |
| 01:31.13 | ManoftheSea | some of it may be assigned to GPU, as well. |
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| 01:31.30 | ManoftheSea | depends on certain modules. |
| 01:31.36 | shaullx | in any case, it's normal |
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| 01:40.54 | acx0 | is it possible to pick which version of libstdc++ is used when compiling a C++ program? aptitude says I have 2 versions installed and I'm trying to debug an issue in the code which only occurs on Debian testing (works fine on Debian stable and oldstable) |
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| 01:44.54 | asturel | -lstdc++.version? |
| 01:45.07 | asturel | e.g. -lstdc++.6 |
| 01:45.35 | acx0 | asturel: thanks, I'll try that |
| 01:46.05 | asturel | its juest a guess |
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| 02:57.04 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps how do i install augeas in debian? |
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| 02:58.33 | Doobie420 | http://augeas.net/page/Augeas_on_Debian |
| 02:59.32 | Eryn_1983_FL | ah |
| 02:59.46 | Eryn_1983_FL | might as well install it now puppet user seem to like this crap.. |
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| 03:40.11 | JCDenton | Can you unisntall everything from a custom repository? |
| 03:40.18 | JCDenton | MariaDB is terrible and it's breaking everything |
| 03:40.39 | JCDenton | and now it won't let me install MySQL |
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| 03:42.26 | JCDenton | Sigh. |
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| 03:45.34 | JCDenton | http://pastie.org/private/npvwcukcctm8pzcln1p3hq |
| 03:46.08 | JCDenton | It's causing issues with my software and overall the performance is not as good as they claim, I don't want to bother trying to fix it, MySQL worked, I just want to nuke it and save my sanity before I shoot some innocent bystandard tonight |
| 03:46.44 | simonlnu | too bad for you :/. i've been happy with it. |
| 03:47.14 | JCDenton | doesn't care just wants it gone |
| 03:47.26 | simonlnu | not for everyone, obviously. it's like everything in life eh. |
| 03:47.39 | JCDenton | indeed, but I just want MySQL back |
| 03:48.53 | simonlnu | best way i've found to switch was via the aptitude ui. otherwise it's just too much finagling around with cli aptitude |
| 03:49.13 | freespace | looks like you need to uninstall mysql 5.5 first |
| 03:49.35 | simonlnu | just gotta keep in mind the deps (which the ui makes obvious), and make sure none of your dbs are using aria or whatever else that's only present in mariadb |
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| 03:50.55 | JCDenton | screams |
| 03:51.14 | JCDenton | http://pastie.org/private/z51oeh4d4zffqqrl3dw2q |
| 03:51.38 | JCDenton | mysql 5.5? doesn't exist |
| 03:51.43 | JCDenton | I don't know what it's talking about |
| 03:51.45 | JCDenton | This is just stupid |
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| 03:52.27 | JCDenton | I guess the only way I'm going to be able to install MySQL at this point is to re-install the OS, eh? |
| 03:52.31 | freespace | what happens if you type aptitude remove mysql-server-5.5? |
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| 03:52.52 | JCDenton | No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. |
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| 03:53.28 | JCDenton | http://pastie.org/private/xsoaqtjyyhywlezymunvg |
| 03:54.08 | freespace | try the core-5.5 |
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| 03:54.22 | freespace | actually... |
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| 03:55.07 | raden | i want to make a script to add text to a file after a marker like ###ADD TEXT HERE### how would i go about that ? |
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| 03:55.47 | freespace | oh, i don't think this has anything to do with packages... |
| 03:56.00 | freespace | do as it says in http://pastie.org/private/npvwcukcctm8pzcln1p3hq, and remove the files in /var/lib |
| 03:56.01 | netecho | I'm wondering if theres a way to switch my default sound output without having to reboot my system? I currently switch it using System > Preferences > Sound then have to reboot for it to take effect |
| 03:56.43 | freespace | i suspect it refuses to downgrade automatically b/c if you made dbs with a new version of mysql, an downgrade might corrupt/destroy it |
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| 03:57.26 | JCDenton | So it has basically destroyed the entire system and there's no easy way for me to ever ever ever ever install MySQL again right? |
| 03:57.28 | JCDenton | That's great |
| 03:57.35 | JCDenton | I'm never touching MariaDB once again in my life |
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| 03:58.45 | freespace | no? |
| 03:58.50 | Dagger2 | JCDenton: ... did you read the text you pastebinned? it says "Aborting downgrade from (at least) 5.5 to 5.1. If are sure you want to downgrade to 5.1, remove the file /var/lib/mysql/debian-*.flag and try installing again." |
| 03:59.01 | Dagger2 | have you tried removing that file yet? |
| 03:59.15 | Devastator | so much drama.. |
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| 03:59.56 | freespace | this probably happened: mariaDB pulled in mysql 5.5, and when you tried it, mysql 5.5 made some files, etc. now you want to go back to mysql 5.1, which may not properly preserve data stored by mysql 5.5, so the automatic downgrade has been aborted |
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| 04:00.35 | Dagger2 | MariaDB 5.5 is being treated as MySQL 5.5 by the MySQL packages |
| 04:01.16 | freespace | ah |
| 04:01.17 | Dagger2 | and those packages refuse to do a silent downgrade because they can't do so safely in all cases |
| 04:01.22 | freespace | nod |
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| 04:02.36 | JCDenton | Dagger2, Yes, now MySQL is just borked entirely. |
| 04:03.18 | JCDenton | http://pastie.org/private/mozfojwwi19nprqzvijh7g |
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| 04:05.53 | Dagger2 | JCDenton: http://giardo.no-ip.org/blog/?p=70 |
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| 04:08.04 | JCDenton | Dagger2, Okay, I did that, and it still won't start. :/ |
| 04:08.52 | Dagger2 | with the same error message? |
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| 04:09.35 | netecho | Anyone? |
| 04:10.36 | JCDenton | Dagger2, I don't know it just won't start? How do I configure before it installs? I'm doing aptitude purge mysql-server mysql-client |
| 04:10.38 | JCDenton | trying to install it again |
| 04:10.39 | JCDenton | Nothing. |
| 04:10.40 | JCDenton | Nada. |
| 04:10.43 | JCDenton | Same error |
| 04:10.44 | JCDenton | Same problem |
| 04:10.50 | JCDenton | What else can I do here? |
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| 04:11.21 | Guest65878 | anyone know how to create a transport_filter to modify messages (string replace) per recepient rules ? |
| 04:12.02 | JCDenton | Should I just rm -rf /etc/mysql ? |
| 04:12.26 | netecho | JCDenton, try sudo apt-get purge mysql* |
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| 04:13.08 | Dagger2 | rather than purging again, try just rerunning `aptitude install mysql-server mysql-client` after you edit my.cnf |
| 04:13.12 | JCDenton | netecho, Then it wants to remove dovecot, exim4 |
| 04:13.38 | netecho | you can always re-install them later if needed |
| 04:13.40 | JCDenton | and I already spent an hour getting those two set up properly |
| 04:14.04 | netecho | JCDenton, take note of what its trying to remove and then select those specific packages |
| 04:15.27 | netecho | Dagger2, you wouldn't happen to be any good with sound issues would you? |
| 04:17.11 | LtL | JCDenton: you can try, apt-get --purge remove <package> |
| 04:17.29 | Dagger2 | also, it looks like you might have the MariaDB version of mysql-common still (which has the broken my.cnf)... you may be able to do something like `apt-get -t=squeeze install mysql-common` to specifically install the one from squeeze without doing a separate uninstall step |
| 04:18.10 | Dagger2 | or `apt-get install mysql-common=5.1.63-0+squeeze1` |
| 04:18.20 | Dagger2 | netecho: sorry, never touched sound on Linux |
| 04:18.42 | netecho | :( |
| 04:18.53 | netecho | oh well I'll get it licked eventually |
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| 04:20.25 | reactormonk | when booting up, I get the following from networking: RTNETLINK answers: Device or resource busy |
| 04:20.28 | reactormonk | Failed to bring up eth1. |
| 04:20.49 | reactormonk | eth0 is the same networking card but it works |
| 04:22.10 | netecho | reactormonk, so eth0 already has a connection on the device? |
| 04:22.33 | reactormonk | netecho: I'm online with that device atm |
| 04:23.05 | netecho | reactormonk, if you read the error closely Device or resource busy, eth0 already has connection on the device and eth1 is trying to utilize the same device |
| 04:23.53 | netecho | reactormonk, I'd do 'sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces' and remove auto eth1 |
| 04:24.04 | reactormonk | netecho: eth1 is static |
| 04:24.15 | netecho | yes but you have it automatically booting |
| 04:24.27 | netecho | auto != dhcp |
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| 04:24.38 | reactormonk | oh |
| 04:24.43 | netecho | auto eth1 tells linux to boot the device at startup |
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| 04:25.29 | netecho | give that a try and see if it resolves the issue |
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| 04:28.05 | reactormonk | netecho: well, I can't bring up the interface |
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| 04:28.27 | netecho | reactormonk, you just said its the same device |
| 04:28.42 | reactormonk | netecho: same as in of the same make |
| 04:28.46 | netecho | oh |
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| 04:28.48 | netecho | I get you now |
| 04:29.04 | netecho | hrm |
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| 04:29.37 | netecho | sorry reactormonk I'm unsure of what to try from here, have you tried googling? |
| 04:29.52 | reactormonk | for that I gotta disconnect the IRC |
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| 04:30.36 | reactormonk | let's see |
| 04:30.38 | netecho | reactormonk, why do you have to disconnect? |
| 04:30.50 | netecho | are you using command line? |
| 04:30.56 | reactormonk | because it's an ALIX and I'm on IRC via serial console |
| 04:31.06 | netecho | oh |
| 04:31.12 | reactormonk | and I don't have a router, and it's a cheap connection where you get one IP only |
| 04:31.40 | geggam_ | has flashbacks |
| 04:32.09 | netecho | reactormonk, can you install screen? |
| 04:32.18 | reactormonk | yep, I've got screen |
| 04:32.27 | reactormonk | and I'm using ^Z and fg here |
| 04:32.30 | Diopter | Depending on your client, you might be able to ^Z |
| 04:32.31 | netecho | so you should be able to run irc in one screen while browsing in another |
| 04:32.32 | Diopter | Ah. |
| 04:32.40 | reactormonk | but lynx sux |
| 04:32.45 | netecho | use links2 |
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| 04:32.58 | reactormonk | ah well, I'll disconnect for now :-) |
| 04:33.04 | Diopter | Install reptyr, ^Z, run screen, reptyr the pid of your IRC client into the screen'd terminal |
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| 04:33.11 | Diopter | Or just restart the client in screen. heh |
| 04:33.36 | netecho | lol |
| 04:34.06 | netecho | Diopter, are you any good with audio issues? |
| 04:34.40 | Diopter | Depends! What sort? |
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| 04:35.09 | sney | nobody is actually "good" with audio issues because they boil down to voodoo and luck |
| 04:35.20 | sney | but most of us know the most common trinket-shaking techniques |
| 04:35.26 | netecho | Well 2 things really, One I'm trying to be able to switch audio output device without having to restart after each change, and the second is I'm trying to get emulated 5.1 for 2ch audio like the X-Fi does in a Windows environment |
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| 04:35.39 | netecho | sney lol great answer |
| 04:35.41 | reactormonk | netecho: back we are |
| 04:36.05 | pparadis | Diopter: i did not know about reptyr. this utility appears to be made of awesome. |
| 04:36.10 | sney | switching audio devices is generally provided through a sound server such as pulseaudio or jack or something like that |
| 04:36.12 | Diopter | pparadis: Correct you are! |
| 04:36.24 | Diopter | pparadis: There's also "neercs", which is kind of win too. But hard to find/use/build/etc |
| 04:36.33 | pparadis | Diopter: i typically remember to start stuff in screen that i want to run in a screen session, but this will save me from having to correct my oopsies. |
| 04:36.51 | netecho | sney, does deb use pulse by default? |
| 04:37.24 | Diopter | nods |
| 04:37.36 | Diopter | netecho: Are you using pulse? Or just ALSA/OSS? |
| 04:37.37 | netecho | sney, currently I go to System > Preferences > Sound to switch it but it doesn't take effect until I restart, haven't tried logging out but I don't really want to close everything lol |
| 04:37.49 | Diopter | Sounds like Gnome. |
| 04:37.50 | sney | netecho: only in combination with gnome or kde (and maybe xfce) desktop environments |
| 04:37.55 | netecho | Diopter, I think it's using also |
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| 04:38.08 | netecho | alsa* |
| 04:38.29 | sney | netecho: if you install alsa-utils and run 'alsamixer' in a terminal, it'll make it pretty clear whether you're using alsa directly or using pulseaudio to manage it |
| 04:38.33 | netecho | yea I'm switching the sound device via alsa mixer |
| 04:38.57 | sney | netecho: alsa is the name for the sound support provided by the linux kernel, so technically, everyone uses alsa. it's just a question of what's driving |
| 04:39.27 | Diopter | sney: OSSv4 has kernel-modules that are used in place of ALSA |
| 04:39.30 | Diopter | So that's not entirely true |
| 04:39.32 | netecho | sney, it says Sound Device (Alsa Mixer) if that helps? |
| 04:39.42 | sney | well, ok, but anyone using OSS probably knows all this stuff anyway |
| 04:39.51 | netecho | like Logitech USB Headset (Alsa Mixer) |
| 04:39.52 | sney | netecho: try installing pulseaudio, then |
| 04:40.50 | Diopter | ^ pulseaudio is really what you're looking for |
| 04:40.54 | netecho | sney, is pulseaudio just an app? |
| 04:41.23 | reactormonk | netecho: don't find that much on it |
| 04:41.28 | sney | netecho: yeah, it's a daemon with some configuration frontends |
| 04:41.51 | netecho | sney, ok I've installed it |
| 04:41.59 | sney | netecho: it's supposed to take the headache out of managing audio, and it seems to do that properly about 80% of the time, if #debian is any indicator. see earlier comment about voodoo. but it's likely what you need |
| 04:42.22 | sney | there's a program called pavucontrol that may be packaged separately depending on what version of debian you're using |
| 04:42.29 | netecho | ok that worked great |
| 04:43.08 | netecho | ok I can switch from my sound card to usb but not the other way heh |
| 04:44.10 | netecho | ah there we go |
| 04:44.32 | RubyRedGirl | Would anyone here know how to reformat/wipe clean a password-locked HP netbook? My friend gave me his older netbook (alas, only 1 gig of ram) that stopped using over a year ago, 'i forgot the password, so your only challenge is to reformat it'. I'd like to wipe it clean and start all over with a LInux distro so I can have my hacking environment :P |
| 04:45.04 | netecho | sney, Diopter all features are working great :D |
| 04:45.34 | reactormonk | RubyRedGirl: bios level? |
| 04:45.51 | RubyRedGirl | reactormonk: oof, what is bios level? |
| 04:46.01 | reactormonk | RubyRedGirl: the password |
| 04:46.08 | Diopter | netecho: Sweet! |
| 04:46.20 | Devastator | RubyRedGirl when the password box pops up? as soon as you turn it on? |
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| 04:46.52 | RubyRedGirl | the only thing that shows in that dialogue box is the name of the computer, the username, and a red icon above the computer name |
| 04:47.06 | RubyRedGirl | the red icon has a white ring in the middle, and three white dots on the white ring |
| 04:47.10 | netecho | ok maybe not perfectly, my headset is a tad screwed |
| 04:48.09 | reactormonk | netecho: http://sprunge.us/OLaF |
| 04:48.27 | netecho | reactormonk, sorry this is beyond my skill |
| 04:48.59 | Devastator | RubyRedGirl as soon as you turn it on? |
| 04:49.09 | RubyRedGirl | hm let me reboot everything |
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| 04:49.22 | netecho | oi my volume is messed |
| 04:49.27 | JCDenton | I've gotten things working again |
| 04:49.34 | RubyRedGirl | Oh! i forgot to add that he installed Ubuntu on it! |
| 04:49.34 | JCDenton | But I'm missing /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| 04:49.51 | sney | !tell JCDenton about confmiss |
| 04:49.57 | RubyRedGirl | so it runs on Ubuntu now, i'm just locked out of it |
| 04:50.18 | Devastator | RubyRedGirl so plug a pendrive with debian installer and reformat it |
| 04:50.37 | sney | yeah, if it's just a login password that'll be gone as soon as there's a new OS installed. |
| 04:51.01 | netecho | sney, yea it's broken, I can get maybe 10% audio out of my headset and when it switches to my speakers it blasts them for about a second then kills the output |
| 04:51.02 | RubyRedGirl | hm, that's what i predicted… when i start it up with the installer are there any special keys i have to press/hold down? |
| 04:51.21 | sney | depends on your computer |
| 04:51.35 | sney | usually it's something like f1 or f8 or f12 or del to get to the boot menu |
| 04:51.37 | Devastator | you will have to find out what's the key to enter select boot mode |
| 04:51.51 | sney | googling your laptop model + boot menu will tell you for sure |
| 04:52.15 | netecho | ok I've found out why, Alsa mixer is still hadling volume however it's not swapping my sound media keys over |
| 04:52.16 | RubyRedGirl | unfortunately there's no laptop model to be found anywhere here, except for 'HP mini' near the screen |
| 04:52.44 | sney | that will probably be enough, but even so, there's a HP model number printed on the back. it's usually about 6 digits and mixed letters and numbers |
| 04:53.00 | Devastator | RubyRedGirl turn it off, turn it upside down, remove the battery, you will see a sticker |
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| 04:53.34 | sney | my experience as a HP tech tells me HP pretty much uses the same bios hotkeys for everything, at least everything within a series |
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| 04:54.40 | Devastator | i have a broken mini that needs reballing.. i have done reflow 3 times, it boots one, two times then dies again |
| 04:54.49 | geggam | sney .... is your name steve and are you from michigan but sound like you are from new dehli ... if so i think i know you :) |
| 04:54.59 | sney | geggam: no to both, sorry |
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| 04:55.30 | sney | and I haven't been a HP tech for about 6 years, but they were always pretty consistent. /ot |
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| 04:55.54 | geggam | was an attempt at being funny |
| 04:56.10 | Devastator | hp, lead free solder, big problems |
| 04:56.18 | sney | shrug |
| 04:57.29 | sney | geggam: "steve" from mumbai doesn't actually know how things work, and hasn't noticed any consistencies between HP models, because he's just reading a script. :P |
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| 04:58.41 | RubyRedGirl | Devastator: ah, thank you, i see it's http://www.amazon.com/HP-110-3130NR-10-1-Inch-Netbook-Black/dp/B00400OT2G |
| 04:58.57 | RubyRedGirl | need to magically find a zip drive now, hehe |
| 04:59.13 | Devastator | this is the one i have and it's dead :) |
| 04:59.21 | RubyRedGirl | wow! we have the same thing! |
| 04:59.28 | Devastator | you are a lucky woman :P |
| 04:59.34 | RubyRedGirl | shah he barely used this one as he complained it was too incredibly slow |
| 04:59.58 | Devastator | let me know when yours dies |
| 05:00.02 | RubyRedGirl | well my macbook air kind of died on sunday so will unfortunately have to be my programming playground until it gets replaced |
| 05:00.27 | RubyRedGirl | Devastator: it may die soon as it only as 1 gig of ram and I plan to push it to its limits :) |
| 05:00.36 | RubyRedGirl | hmm, where i can find a zip drive hehe |
| 05:00.49 | pparadis | RubyRedGirl: plenty of those in landfills these days. |
| 05:00.54 | sambagirl | those airbooks are so thin. all that alien technology :) |
| 05:01.18 | RubyRedGirl | BTW you think Linux Mint or Lubuntu (light ubuntu) could be alright to make this kid run faster? |
| 05:01.32 | Devastator | you are in #debian |
| 05:01.37 | pparadis | dunno, this here channel is about debian. |
| 05:01.46 | Devastator | people you likely recommend debian :) |
| 05:01.55 | sambagirl | use this http://porteus.org/ |
| 05:01.57 | RubyRedGirl | Yeah, I installed 3 debian VM's on my macbook air before it died |
| 05:02.21 | pparadis | short answer, if you want a minimal environment, do a debian netinstall and then install whatever stuff you want from there. |
| 05:02.27 | sambagirl | i just run osx lion on my hp or thinkpad works great |
| 05:02.43 | RubyRedGirl | i only considered ubuntu-stuff as i didn't know what light distro to use |
| 05:02.53 | RubyRedGirl | WOW, look at this, only 300 megabytes :) |
| 05:02.54 | sambagirl | ok |
| 05:03.05 | RubyRedGirl | sambagirl: that's amazing |
| 05:03.08 | pparadis | RubyRedGirl: debian is in fact a lightweight distro. if you haven't done a minimal netinstall before, try it out. |
| 05:03.13 | jagginess | lol you girls are new to the linux deal.. |
| 05:03.19 | RubyRedGirl | I've always wanted a Hackintosh |
| 05:03.34 | jagginess | the dude who invented linux got 600,000 euros from the finland millenium award |
| 05:03.42 | pparadis | alrighty folks, let's try to steer it back on topic. there's #debian-offtopic for the rest of this. |
| 05:03.57 | pparadis | or #defocus for that matter |
| 05:03.58 | jagginess | (the people on #linux love this fact and would like talking about *nix jungleness) |
| 05:04.15 | RubyRedGirl | jagginess: I know, I was in the dark until last summer. WHen I discovered the command line I flipped out, immediately creating bash aliases to open Photoshop (haha! former designer here, now super nerdy aspiring back-end hacker), and three weeks later I had 3 debian VMs install!!! |
| 05:04.16 | alex20032 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:04.34 | alex20032 | oops, didnt saw it was not debian offtopic |
| 05:04.44 | sambagirl | debian is lightweight? |
| 05:04.46 | sambagirl | laughs |
| 05:04.52 | sambagirl | it has what 8 cds? |
| 05:05.01 | sambagirl | that is light? |
| 05:05.02 | pparadis | sambagirl: you don't understand debian. |
| 05:05.07 | sambagirl | i do |
| 05:05.12 | Diopter | sambagirl: You sound really dumb when you say that. |
| 05:05.12 | alex20032 | Well, a debian minimal installation is lightweight... |
| 05:05.13 | pparadis | sambagirl: the minimal netinstall cd is about 170 MB. |
| 05:05.29 | pparadis | sambagirl: you apparently don't understand debian at all. |
| 05:05.31 | Diopter | sambagirl: You obviously don't understand it at all, or you're just trolling. |
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| 05:05.42 | sambagirl | i understand that debian is the mother and that ubuntu and elive and xubuntu and this and that are the children and the mom stays stalwart and doesnt budge but lets the kids play and they do. |
| 05:05.54 | pparadis | sambagirl: that's not understanding debian. |
| 05:05.55 | sambagirl | dont accuse me of that lame troll bs |
| 05:05.57 | Diopter | So you're trolling. Yawn. |
| 05:06.05 | jagginess | true. it's a troll. |
| 05:06.14 | jagginess | wants sambagirl kicked. |
| 05:06.20 | pparadis | sambagirl: please go perform a minimal netinstall and come back and tell us about it. |
| 05:06.35 | sambagirl | yanws |
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| 05:07.12 | pparadis | sambagirl: those 8 CDs of packages you're referring to are software that is _available_ for install by people that want whatever is in there, not what gets installed for everyone. there's a bit of a difference there. |
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| 05:09.37 | pparadis | sambagirl: more to the point, i've got a VM on my network that does a few things, like serve an internal website, serve DHCP and internal DNS services, and some system monitoring. it's got 64 MB of RAM and 3 GB of disk assigned to it, and it runs great. it's running debian 6. |
| 05:10.30 | pparadis | people actually make debian work with lower resources than that, but it'd be kinda ridiculous to go lower than that unless you're running an embedded device or something, in which case there is also this --> http://www.emdebian.org/ |
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| 05:10.51 | pparadis | so yeah, anyhow, back to debian support here folks. |
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| 05:11.17 | alex20032 | Well, strange, i am banned from Debian-offtopic, but I never was on that channel... I wanted to go to that channel for the first time... It must be from when I had connection problem, and it said me I was banned for join flood (my IRC client was trying to reconnect over and over...) and they said me to fix my connection and contact an operator to unban me when my connection would be fixed, but only unbanned on #debian but not on re |
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| 05:11.44 | pparadis | alex20032: i remember that, an op can probably get that fixed for you. |
| 05:12.05 | alex20032 | You where there when I was having problem connection? |
| 05:12.10 | pparadis | nod |
| 05:12.17 | alex20032 | So how can you remember that? |
| 05:12.28 | pparadis | i said "nod" as in "affirmative" |
| 05:12.32 | alex20032 | Oh... |
| 05:12.38 | alex20032 | I am not native english |
| 05:12.42 | jagginess | alex20032, #debian-ops . |
| 05:12.50 | pparadis | that's okay, and yepper, ops channel. |
| 05:12.58 | alex20032 | So, does it was really making lot of spam in the channel? |
| 05:13.04 | jagginess | you are already |
| 05:13.26 | pparadis | jagginess: he's asking if it was really causing a disturbance when his client was continuously joining/quitting, and the answer is "yes" |
| 05:13.40 | jagginess | i have no clue about that.. |
| 05:14.00 | jagginess | there's #freenode and that -ops channel that can try to help address what rules are allowed on irc.. |
| 05:14.22 | alex20032 | Its what happen when my familly pay for a highspeed internet (10 mb/sec) but cant hit the 50 kb/s... BAD ISP... and while on chat, doing update... |
| 05:14.34 | jagginess | recons /amsg is not allowed on freenode irc and can immediately can you banned |
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| 05:15.07 | SlitazMintCLI | hello |
| 05:15.10 | jagginess | alex20032, stop trolling man.. this isnt the channel for addressing this.. were' here to talk about debian |
| 05:15.15 | SlitazMintCLI | How do I shutdown Debian through the CLI/ |
| 05:15.24 | alex20032 | get on root |
| 05:15.28 | alex20032 | shutdown |
| 05:15.36 | jagginess | SlitazMintCLI, (shutdown -h 0) |
| 05:15.36 | alex20032 | man shutdown to know what argument |
| 05:15.38 | SlitazMintCLI | oh, I have to be root |
| 05:15.44 | pparadis | jagginess: he's really not trolling, just would be better discussed in #debian-offtopic |
| 05:15.56 | pparadis | SlitazMintCLI: nod, you'll need to be root to do that sort of thing. |
| 05:16.07 | pparadis | SlitazMintCLI: "halt" as root should do what you want. |
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| 05:16.45 | SlitazMintCLI | Why do I need to be root? Shouldnt a user be able to do something as simple as shutting down? |
| 05:17.05 | pparadis | SlitazMintCLI: no, normal users should not be able to shut systems down. |
| 05:17.16 | RubyRedGirl | Unfortunately had to reboot computer. Politely requesting the names of some of the super lightweight distros again for my 1gb HP netbook? |
| 05:17.18 | pparadis | SlitazMintCLI: please keep in mind that linux is a multi-user operating system. |
| 05:17.30 | SlitazMintCLI | Yeah, makes sense if important services or other users are on. |
| 05:17.33 | pparadis | RubyRedGirl: you really should try #debian-offtopic |
| 05:17.44 | pparadis | RubyRedGirl: or #defocus |
| 05:17.55 | pparadis | this channel is only for debian support. |
| 05:19.36 | SlitazMintCLI | How do I force my fonts to reload? If I can do that I won't even need to shutdown. |
| 05:20.08 | SlitazMintCLI | My fonts are all screwed up after using cmatrix -l |
| 05:20.35 | pparadis | SlitazMintCLI: quick answer might be to log out of your desktop environment and log back in. |
| 05:20.49 | SlitazMintCLI | I am not in a desktop environment. |
| 05:20.52 | jagginess | SlitazMintCLI, your ~/.fonts folder has definitions |
| 05:21.17 | jagginess | !defoma |
| 05:21.17 | dpkg | Defoma (DEbian FOnt MAnager) is an automatic font configuration framework. Manually adding FontPath lines in <xorg.conf> (ref. /usr/share/doc/x-ttcidfont-conf/README.Debian) is not necessary since Lenny and later Debian releases. Deprecated by <fontconfig> and intended to be removed from Debian (Debian bug #651494). http://wiki.debian.org/Fonts/Defoma |
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| 05:21.51 | jagginess | yow.. been a long time since i touched anything defoma, now its going extinct |
| 05:22.09 | pparadis | SlitazMintCLI: are you using X at all, or are you referring to the console font? |
| 05:22.51 | pparadis | (i ask because you referenced cmatrix, which is an ncurses program) |
| 05:23.18 | alex20032 | !fontconfig |
| 05:23.18 | dpkg | Fontconfig is a library for configuring and customizing font access. http://fontconfig.org/ |
| 05:23.25 | SlitazMintCLI | My graphics drivers won't work well, so I am in the console. |
| 05:23.50 | SlitazMintCLI | No GUI for me. :( |
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| 05:25.15 | sney | SlitazMintCLI: in a terminal, the command 'reset' should do what you want |
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| 05:26.41 | [olli] | re ppl.. |
| 05:26.52 | sney | !ask |
| 05:26.52 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 05:28.52 | [olli] | I'm trying to install XEN ontop of my debian system. I've done: apt-get install xen-linux-system-2.6.32-5-xen-686 linux-headers-2.6.32-5-xen-686 linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-686 xen-utils-common xen-tools xenwatch xen-docs-4.0 xen-hypervisor-4.0-i386 xenstore-utils . After this I've in grub kernel w/ xen & kernel w/ xen 4.0 . Which should I use? |
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| 05:29.55 | niriven | hi, with dpkg --build, why is it including the .deb at / during dpkg -i package.deb? |
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| 05:42.28 | niriven | noone? im just trying to make a basic package, created pkga, DEBIAN. all the files, dpkg --build pkga builds it, but the .deb has the deb that was created in root, so when i install with dpkg -i my deb file will be installed correctly but now the deb is in / too. im new to this, is this normal or am i doing osmething wrong? |
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| 05:49.23 | niriven | nevermind : |
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| 06:01.58 | krababbel | can I create my own pidfile in /var/run if I need one for an init script? |
| 06:02.35 | Diopter | krababbel: Sure. |
| 06:02.44 | krababbel | thanks |
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| 06:31.10 | bintut | waves |
| 06:31.16 | bintut | any pdns-recursor users here? |
| 06:32.42 | bintut | i'm not sure where is really the problem on my pdns-recursor setup at home because the configurations looks simple to me. but still, none of my client devices is able to resolve. |
| 06:33.40 | bintut | please have a look at http://pastie.org/4542450 |
| 06:34.58 | sys_fail | sorry I dont use it |
| 06:35.12 | sys_fail | keep googling |
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| 06:35.56 | bintut | sys_fail: thanks. |
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| 06:36.14 | sys_fail | :) |
| 06:36.50 | sys_fail | you sure the ports are open? |
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| 06:39.04 | bintut | sys_fail: yes |
| 06:39.47 | sys_fail | idk then |
| 06:41.05 | michelh | why is is that audio playback is fluent when i run voyage-mpd (distro based on debian live) but when creating my own debian live with alsa+mpd and loading it into ram audio ouput stutters? |
| 06:43.05 | sys_fail | same pkg versions? |
| 06:44.44 | michelh | of which package? |
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| 06:45.43 | sys_fail | the ones you used |
| 06:45.53 | sys_fail | for mpd etc.. |
| 06:46.16 | michelh | mpd is the same, even used the same config |
| 06:46.28 | michelh | give me a sec, checking alsa |
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| 06:49.23 | AL13N | http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/18/oracle-makes-more-moves-to-kill-open-source-mysql/ |
| 06:49.46 | sys_fail | old |
| 06:49.50 | michelh | alsa-base is 1.0.25+2+nmu1 (stutters) and 1.0.23+dfsg-4 (ok) |
| 06:50.28 | AL13N | sys_fail: old? |
| 06:50.57 | AL13N | it's from yesterday |
| 06:51.32 | AL13N | all distro's should have mariadb as default mysql provider |
| 06:52.32 | sys_fail | yeah I know Im j/k |
| 06:53.51 | sys_fail | michelh, could you specifically use the ok pkg? |
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| 06:54.42 | sys_fail | like by editing your sources.lis |
| 06:54.52 | sys_fail | sources.list* |
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| 06:55.17 | michelh | k, sec |
| 06:56.45 | sys_fail | because a alternative alsa does not seem like it would cause a problem |
| 06:56.59 | sys_fail | i could be wrong though |
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| 07:05.05 | JCDenton | Why does debian have an IRC user by default again? o_O |
| 07:05.14 | JCDenton | Or was it something I installed that added it for some reason |
| 07:05.21 | JCDenton | I remember noticing this once before |
| 07:06.01 | krababbel | For an init script, is this OK to do in lines 7-10? http://pastebin.com/5aUrKRZD |
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| 07:07.20 | taipres | what version of debian has 2.4 kernel? |
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| 07:07.45 | michelh | @sys_fail okay, i installed the old version - still stuttering |
| 07:09.16 | michelh | during playback kworker is causing extreme cpu usage |
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| 07:10.26 | taipres | btw #debian-offtopic has a tremendous amount of bans, and only about 100 users in there I believe |
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| 07:10.44 | taipres | someone should really take a look at that, and those that got access, seems out of control IMHO |
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| 07:15.20 | streuner_ | taipres: none |
| 07:15.37 | taipres | no version of ubuntu had 2.4.* kernel? |
| 07:15.40 | taipres | sorry debian |
| 07:15.51 | streuner_ | sure, before squeeze |
| 07:16.11 | taipres | alright thanks, i'll take a look a look at version before squeeze |
| 07:16.22 | streuner_ | taipres: /msg dpkg lenny |
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| 07:19.54 | sys_fail | michelh what about mpd |
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| 07:21.26 | AL13N | does anyone know who the mysql packager is? and if he's on IRC? |
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| 07:23.02 | sambagirl | brb |
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| 07:24.44 | michelh | sys_fail both times 0.17-1 |
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| 07:25.50 | sambagirl | here is an idea brenrs_ did it work with a live cd test? that would not include updates |
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| 07:26.36 | AL13N | JCDenton: i've seen your name somewhere before, aren't/weren't you a xine dev? |
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| 07:29.23 | sys_fail | michelh, maybe try newer a version, or try to locate whats affecting it. |
| 07:29.43 | sys_fail | and what about pulseaudio? |
| 07:31.01 | JCDenton | AL13N, afraid not, but JCDenton is a fictional character from the Deus Ex game |
| 07:31.23 | michelh | not installed, system is running headless/ w/ DE |
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| 07:33.38 | linuxuz3r | ;( |
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| 07:34.38 | na | hello? |
| 07:34.53 | Guest8854 | hello? |
| 07:35.10 | AL13N | JCDenton: hmm, maybe that's it then |
| 07:35.12 | linuxuz3r | hi |
| 07:35.17 | Guest8854 | : ) |
| 07:35.58 | Guest8854 | would anyone be so kind as to help me trouble shoot sound on debian stable? |
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| 07:37.33 | linuxuz3r | alsa? |
| 07:37.37 | Guest8854 | yes |
| 07:37.54 | Guest8854 | yes alsa |
| 07:37.58 | linuxuz3r | first check if the device is recognized by the kernel |
| 07:38.10 | linuxuz3r | i forgot the comaand |
| 07:38.15 | linuxuz3r | lspci --vvv |
| 07:38.27 | Skilz | dmesg |
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| 07:38.57 | linuxuz3r | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=53708 |
| 07:39.29 | gnugr | Guest8854:follow these steps "https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/blog/craigevil-176422/trouble-shooting-alsa-on-debian-3018/" |
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| 07:40.10 | Guest8854 | downloaded the dvd 1 with bittorrent burned the cd verified the burn, installed with defaults on tasksel deselected all but laptop and standard, installed openbox, xorg, iceweasel, gdm3, xchat |
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| 07:41.11 | linuxuz3r | did you try livecd and booting from it while checking if your sound card is supported |
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| 07:44.05 | Guest8854 | no but after it didn't work I reinstalled with expert menu and selected testing and then sound did work |
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| 07:44.34 | linuxuz3r | oh |
| 07:44.38 | linuxuz3r | thats good |
| 07:45.06 | linuxuz3r | sometimes you got to play around different distro to get everything correctly working |
| 07:45.11 | Guest8854 | but I reinstalled back to stable and would like to get the sound working : ) |
| 07:45.45 | Guest8854 | apps are alot lighter on stable imo : ) |
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| 07:46.17 | linuxuz3r | im using wheezy and everything works |
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| 07:46.49 | linuxuz3r | i tried squeeze but its to out of date for me |
| 07:47.22 | Guest8854 | wheezy is testing isn't it? |
| 07:47.29 | linuxuz3r | no |
| 07:47.35 | linuxuz3r | i dont know |
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| 07:48.21 | Guest8854 | think so |
| 07:49.21 | Guest8854 | but one thing I noticed is that alsamixed installed by alsa-utils doesn't have the MM that testing does |
| 07:49.33 | Guest8854 | alsamixer |
| 07:50.24 | Guest8854 | to unmute |
| 07:50.56 | linuxuz3r | oh |
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| 07:51.59 | Guest8854 | I ran pure sid for about a year and things don't break often : ) |
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| 08:08.26 | afsal | how to install compize in debian?? |
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| 08:09.23 | gnarface | afsal: didn't apt-get install compiz work for you? |
| 08:09.39 | afsal | no |
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| 08:11.00 | afsal | gnarface: Yes i installed. But that not working, no effect! |
| 08:12.35 | afsal | gnarface: what i do. Any tutorial?? |
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| 08:15.03 | sys_fail | yeah idk |
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| 08:15.28 | gnugr | !tell afsal -about compiz |
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| 08:19.27 | primeras | Happy Feast of the Muslims. |
| 08:20.08 | osfd | Hi there. I would love Nautilus to shut up definitely and make pcmanfm my default file manager. Could you please tell me about a tutorial that would help me to do that ? |
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| 08:26.56 | krababbel | For init scripts, does it matter if I use bash instead of sh? |
| 08:28.10 | krababbel | I guess I should stick to sh instead of bash? |
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| 08:38.31 | NerdJones | hello all |
| 08:38.58 | krababbel | Is there any documentation available for dash? |
| 08:39.44 | sys_fail | man dash |
| 08:39.54 | krababbel | ah yes, thanks |
| 08:40.22 | sys_fail | You need more? |
| 08:40.41 | krababbel | sys_fail: some guides maybe, I am very new to scripting |
| 08:41.41 | krababbel | I was starting to read a bash guide http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/ |
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| 08:44.58 | sys_fail | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dash_as_/bin/sh |
| 08:45.17 | krababbel | sys_fail: thanks |
| 08:45.44 | sys_fail | maybe look for bash guides, if its the same syntax, etc.. |
| 08:45.54 | krababbel | OK, nice :) |
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| 08:46.19 | sys_fail | also I hate shell scripting |
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| 08:46.39 | krababbel | :) I just want an init script |
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| 08:56.57 | namoamitabuddha | Is it easy for Debian to use LVM? |
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| 09:03.30 | sys_fail | should be |
| 09:03.38 | sys_fail | Ive used it |
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| 09:06.38 | namoamitabuddha | sys_fail: Did you set lvm in debian-installer? |
| 09:06.48 | sys_fail | yes |
| 09:07.07 | namoamitabuddha | sys_fail: Guided partitioning or manual? |
| 09:07.17 | sys_fail | manual |
| 09:07.37 | namoamitabuddha | sys_fail: Did you partition /boot in it? |
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| 09:08.58 | FilipeMaia | Hi. I have a slight issue with one of my servers. I was doing an upgrade and run out of disk |
| 09:09.19 | FilipeMaia | The upgrade was interrupted and now I don't have ldconfig in my system |
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| 09:09.34 | FilipeMaia | How can I get out of this one? |
| 09:10.29 | PhilippeGeek | Hello, here can I install SUN JDK 1.7 in command lines (download, execution ...) ? |
| 09:11.35 | Losowski | SUN doesn't own JDK, Oracle does |
| 09:12.11 | xingu | FilipeMaia: judicious use of the LD_PRELOAD environment variable? |
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| 09:12.37 | FilipeMaia | xingu: I managed to copy an ldconfig binary from another system and use it to install libc-bin |
| 09:12.44 | obiwahn | hi i want to build wine fom source on amd64 |
| 09:12.59 | obiwahn | it complains about missing x libs |
| 09:13.09 | obiwahn | do you know which packages are required? |
| 09:13.23 | obiwahn | configure: error: X 32-bit development files not found. |
| 09:13.24 | xingu | FilipeMaia: all ldconfig does is generate /etc/ld.so.cache fyi |
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| 09:13.33 | FilipeMaia | xingu: but i need it to run dpkg |
| 09:14.17 | xingu | FilipeMaia: dpkg would probably be happy enough in an emergency like that if you copied /bin/true to /sbin/ldconfig |
| 09:14.32 | themill | predicts that it's a PATH issue |
| 09:14.33 | FilipeMaia | xinguu: ok, thanks for the tip |
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| 09:33.22 | linuxuz3r | i have a problem with wheezy |
| 09:33.26 | linuxuz3r | can someone help |
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| 09:34.25 | linuxuz3r | when i wake debian from sleep it shows a bluescreen and i could not see the window that gets the password to unlock debian. can someone help |
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| 09:37.35 | linuxuz3r | how do i install nvidia drivers |
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| 09:42.19 | linuxuz3r | guys can you help |
| 09:42.21 | linuxuz3r | when i wake debian from sleep it shows a bluescreen and i could not see the window that gets the password to unlock debian. can someone help |
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| 09:44.33 | Silence- | There is no need to repeat yourself. |
| 09:44.42 | Silence- | sudo apt-cache search nvidia |
| 09:44.55 | Silence- | That will show you the available packages related to nvidia. |
| 09:45.06 | linuxuz3r | what repository should i use |
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| 09:47.30 | linuxuz3r | ? |
| 09:47.35 | linuxuz3r | thanks for the help |
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| 09:48.30 | Silence- | linuxuz3r: Add 'non-free' and 'contrib' to your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 09:48.46 | Silence- | And then 'apt-get update' |
| 09:48.51 | Silence- | And then 'apt-cache search nvidia' |
| 09:48.51 | linuxuz3r | im on wheezy |
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| 09:50.41 | Silence- | linuxuz3r: mmm, it will work on wheezy. |
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| 10:02.44 | barhom | Im trying to understand IGMP and IGMP snooping, and I keep reading that 'the multicast router will handle IGMP leave and join' but I can't understand what a 'multicast router' is, is it a daemon? something that runs auto? |
| 10:03.24 | joltcan | barhom: It's a defacto router, a piece of hardware (or a linux box) that does routing |
| 10:03.58 | barhom | But I'm not actually 'routing' any multicast traffic |
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| 10:04.16 | barhom | But is it something I need to actually 'run' on my linux box thats acting as my router? |
| 10:04.34 | barhom | Im trying to sniff IGMP but Im seeing nothing going cross the network |
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| 10:06.17 | krababbel | it is called an igmp proxy I think barhom. A router may pass the protocol igmp |
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| 10:07.04 | krababbel | vlc can act as a proxy I think |
| 10:07.19 | barhom | reason Im trying to do all of this is because when I start my application that sends multicast to the switch Im seeing increased traffic across all computers (50mbit) |
| 10:07.33 | barhom | and all of the traffic is unwanted unless one specific hosts actually requests the multicasted traffic |
| 10:08.55 | barhom | IGMPproxy is a simple dynamic Multicast Routing Daemon using only IGMP signalling. It's intended for simple forwarding of Multicast traffic between networks. < It doesn't sound like anything Id need because I don't want it to cross two networks |
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| 10:09.48 | krababbel | ah, yes, my router has an option in its switch, to enable snooping |
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| 10:10.06 | barhom | yeh, so do mine, but I can't seem to understand how it works |
| 10:10.34 | barhom | I got 1 computer sending multicast traffic and 3 hosts that should be able to listen to the traffic |
| 10:10.52 | barhom | however, as soon as the 1 computer sending multicast traffic I see that traffic come to all 3 other hosts |
| 10:10.56 | krababbel | barhom: better ask in ##networking |
| 10:11.00 | barhom | hmm, yeh good idea |
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| 10:20.21 | netecho | backports is for stuff in wheezy right? |
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| 10:21.40 | linuxuz3r | Silence-, thanks |
| 10:21.49 | themill | netecho: backports are packages in testing recompiled for stable. |
| 10:21.54 | linuxuz3r | can you help me with my other problems |
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| 10:22.14 | netecho | themill, do you know if the latest release of bluefish is in bpo? |
| 10:22.27 | themill | netecho: packages.debian.org and judd will |
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| 10:23.47 | netecho | themill, any way to pull the version from sid? Wheezy has the new version but not for i386 |
| 10:24.02 | linuxuz3r | ok when i wake up debian from sleep it shows a bluescreen that covers the window where i would type in the password in order to unlock debian. what is causing this bluescreen to appear |
| 10:24.03 | Silence- | linuxuz3r: To help you, I need prints from logs. A bluescreen doesnt say much more than that your monitor isnt getting signals. Nvidia graphics card? Installing the drivers should solve that, too. |
| 10:24.04 | linuxuz3r | ? |
| 10:24.12 | Silence- | linuxuz3r: Stop repeating your question! |
| 10:24.15 | Silence- | That's the third time. |
| 10:24.16 | linuxuz3r | ok |
| 10:24.28 | linuxuz3r | what logs do you want |
| 10:24.40 | Silence- | x |
| 10:24.45 | themill | netecho: sid and wheezy have the same version |
| 10:24.46 | Silence- | pastebin.com |
| 10:24.48 | linuxuz3r | xorg logs? |
| 10:24.56 | Silence- | yes |
| 10:25.15 | netecho | themill, it's saying sid has i386 but wheezy doesn't unless I'm on kfreebsd |
| 10:25.31 | netecho | or I'm misreading |
| 10:25.53 | cardamon | linuxuz3r: /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 10:26.10 | netecho | themill, sudo apt-get install -t squeeze-backports bluefish says I have the current version but bluefish is saying its the squeeze version |
| 10:27.01 | linuxuz3r | http://pastebin.com/ftUSnRxy |
| 10:27.05 | themill | netecho: that's not surprising, since packages.debian.org just showed you that there was no version in squeeze-backports |
| 10:27.18 | netecho | themill, I was misreading the info |
| 10:27.24 | linuxuz3r | Silence-, cardamon http://pastebin.com/ftUSnRxy |
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| 10:27.40 | netecho | themill, http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=bluefish (I still have 2.0.1) |
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| 10:28.02 | themill | netecho: what release of debian are you running? squeeze? |
| 10:28.27 | netecho | themill, yea |
| 10:28.30 | cardamon | linuxuz3r: Use paste.debian.net because it has no annoying ads or weird formatting. Should be the default on pastebinit |
| 10:28.43 | netecho | themill, I also have the bpo repos added in sources.list |
| 10:28.50 | themill | netecho: so packages.debian.org just showed you that there was no version in squeeze-backports |
| 10:28.55 | Silence- | linuxuz3r: My mistake. Do what cardamon said. :) |
| 10:29.11 | linuxuz3r | Silence-, cardamon http://paste.debian.net/184564/ |
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| 10:29.37 | netecho | themill, oh even if its in wheezy it may not be in bpo? |
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| 10:30.11 | linuxuz3r | what i did is lock the screen wait for it to lock then wait for the screen to poweroff and wait for 5-10mins |
| 10:30.39 | linuxuz3r | when i try to power it on it shows bluescreen that covers the login window |
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| 10:32.21 | linuxuz3r | Silence-, cardamon do you understand how the problem is recreated? |
| 10:33.36 | linuxuz3r | the cursor is still on the bluescreen but i could not see the login window |
| 10:34.21 | themill | netecho: sure. most packages in wheezy are not backported. (And many packages, like that one, are not backportable) |
| 10:34.23 | linuxuz3r | im using lightdm |
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| 10:34.54 | netecho | themill, thanks for clearing that up |
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| 10:35.20 | jasonb | i find a command that can display battery message - `ibam --percentbattery | head --lines 1` |
| 10:35.34 | jasonb | how can i add it to notion (window manager) so that it can display info? |
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| 10:36.14 | jasonb | checking cfg_statusbar.lua, i can only figure out adding e.g. battery={...}, but don't know what to fill so that command can get called. |
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| 10:37.10 | linuxuz3r | Silence-, cardamon are you guys still there |
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| 10:38.21 | heoa | trysten: It fires errs with the command, Capture? http://pastie.org/4549545 |
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| 10:40.23 | Silence- | linuxuz3r: No, I do not understand. Sorry, but I'm stuck with some stuff over here. |
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| 10:40.29 | Silence- | Maybe someone else can assist you. |
| 10:40.41 | linuxuz3r | cardamon, hi |
| 10:40.49 | linuxuz3r | Silence-, thanks a lot |
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| 10:43.14 | alfon_ | hi, the gtk-gnash process consume a lot of CPU. I had installed the 0.8.8-5+sq version of gnash package on Debian Squeeze. There is a solution to fix this? or I have back to the adobe plugin? |
| 10:43.32 | alfon_ | thanks in advance |
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| 10:48.20 | galbi | ciao |
| 10:48.23 | galbi | !list |
| 10:48.23 | dpkg | galbi: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.5-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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| 10:50.21 | jackk | Hello, can someone tell me if this Linux has flash preinstalled? I am a huge fan of porn and would like to know. |
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| 10:52.29 | silverarrow | no |
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| 10:52.57 | silverarrow | well, linuxmint does I think |
| 10:53.18 | g0to | hello |
| 10:54.27 | g0to | does anybody know a way to create an ISO image from a list of files (paths) stored in a plaint text file? |
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| 11:01.59 | SgrA | Hi, is there any listing of the contents of various CDs/DVDs (CD-n.iso's)? |
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| 11:23.52 | [olli] | re |
| 11:23.53 | [olli] | I'm trying XEN on my Debian. & 've troubles w/ networking within it: http://pastebin.com/ei7LCeuB . Any ideas? |
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| 11:25.24 | nextime | votes for kvm instead of xen |
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| 11:46.05 | cardamon | SgrA: What are you looking for? |
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| 11:47.00 | cardamon | SgrA: In general the first in the series has everything needed for an installation plus a little more. The recommended method however is to get that or a netinst image and then use the online sources for you installs. |
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| 11:47.35 | grobda24 | Hello. Where can I alter the "rt" feature set for the debian kernel. I need to change some config options. |
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| 11:58.02 | alexey_knyshev | Hi all! I'm trying to pack our product into deb package... So on install step I have an error like this: http://pastebin.com/kvze6zMy. I run dpkg-buildpackage with argument "-rfakeroot". |
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| 11:58.51 | grobda24 | Can I just adjust/add the config options here - debian/config/featureset-rt ? |
| 11:58.59 | grobda24 | Or, where is #debian-kernel ? |
| 11:59.29 | nyuszika7h | hi, any idea why apt-get says "cannot be authenticated" for nearly every package? |
| 12:01.35 | equex | cardamon, is it like that for disc 2,3 etc ? so if you have disc 1 you got most of the essentials, then with disc 2 and maybe 3 you have more than you need, and with disc 4,5,... it just gets more and more obscure ? or could you be asked to get something from disc #42 as a dependancy for something you installed off disc 1 ? bc it would be handy to be sure that you can do a fairly complete |
| 12:01.35 | equex | install with dev tools, media players etc when not having net access. |
| 12:02.24 | grobda24 | Anyone know which is the debian developer irc channel ? |
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| 12:15.22 | silverarrow | is anyone on powerpc? |
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| 12:17.15 | alexey_knyshev | Hi all! I'm trying to pack our product into deb package... So on install step I have an error like this: http://pastebin.com/kvze6zMy. I run dpkg-buildpackage with argument "-rfakeroot". |
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| 12:18.29 | ansgar | !pastebin.com |
| 12:18.29 | dpkg | pastebin.com takes forever to load, makes us enter a captcha to see your paste and fills the screen with ads. Please use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 12:18.45 | ansgar | alexey_knyshev: Also packaging questions are better asked in #debian-mentors on OFTC. |
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| 12:20.54 | ElDiabolo | I did a (small) dist-upgrade on the nvidia stuff in squeeze with kernel 3.2 bpo , which broke. There is no undo for that, right? |
| 12:21.10 | themill | alexey_knyshev: you need to install into a temporary dir (debhelper will help you do that) not into / |
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| 12:23.11 | ElDiabolo | Is there a history where I can look at the packages installed and removed? |
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| 12:27.48 | boudiccas | ElDiabolo: zcat -f /var/log/dpkg.log* | grep " install " | sort >>/home/boztu/cron/install.txt... entered in a terminal will give you a dated list of what was installed or removed |
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| 12:29.06 | ElDiabolo | boudiccas, Thx. |
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| 12:30.26 | cardamon | grobda24: Try oftc.net |
| 12:30.40 | boudiccas | ElDiabolo: you're welcome |
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| 12:32.20 | cardamon | equex: It doesn't care what disk it's on. It builds a list from them. If it's on disk 42, you'll need disk 42. But for INSTALLS everything needed is on disk 1. |
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| 12:33.32 | equex | i see |
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| 12:34.54 | cardamon | netinst doesn't care. It just gets online and grabs everything. |
| 12:35.02 | cardamon | You should use netinst. |
| 12:35.39 | cardamon | Unless you're in a cave in the woods. |
| 12:35.50 | cardamon | In which case I wonder how you're getting electricity. |
| 12:35.52 | boudiccas | i used a dvd1 to install squeeze 6.0.4 but with net access it updated it to 6.0.5 |
| 12:36.37 | cardamon | boudiccas: Not saying it doesn't work...just that telling people to just use netinst heads off a lot of "Which CD do I need" questions. |
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| 12:36.51 | cardamon | Also save them the time/bandwidth difference. |
| 12:37.18 | cardamon | Plus I have a few 256mb flash drives. Love netinst for that. |
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| 12:40.04 | boudiccas | Using rsync to backup my /home/user/ to an external usb h/d, it takes 3.5 hours for the initial backup with the flags of rsync -avz. are there any other flags that would speed up the backup please? |
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| 12:41.26 | cardamon | boudiccas: Having less stuff in your home directory. |
| 12:41.43 | boudiccas | nope, its all necessary |
| 12:42.56 | cardamon | A faster ISP connection on both ends and all points in between. Compression's already used. |
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| 12:43.20 | cardamon | Think of it like a big bucket of water and a little pipe. |
| 12:43.32 | boudiccas | cardamon: an isp is /not/ involved! please reread what i originally said |
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| 12:45.09 | cardamon | Ah. |
| 12:45.13 | cardamon | USB is slow. |
| 12:45.24 | cardamon | That's the bottleneck. |
| 12:45.54 | cardamon | Bucket/pipe analogy hold. You need a bigger pipe. USB3.0 is out, but waiting the 3.5 hours seems easier. |
| 12:46.00 | cardamon | Patience, grasshopper. |
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| 12:54.10 | EdePopede | hi all, having a problem with usb. is there a program or a setting to make usb work slower in debian 6? as in: don't write so fast to the stick |
| 12:55.22 | alexfu | I hope someone can help me out here.... I just installed Debian Squeeze (6.0.5) on my Acer Aspire 1410. During install, it was able to connect to the internet (via ethernet) fine but now, after the install, ethernet connection no longer works. |
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| 12:56.45 | daffodi | did you enabled the ethernet adapter |
| 12:57.10 | silverarrow | anyone on powerpc? |
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| 12:58.02 | nsadmin | alexfu, look at the output of ifconfig -a, you'll see paragraphs and labels, show the labels |
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| 12:58.48 | nsadmin | silverarrow, there;s a channel for that somewhere |
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| 12:58.56 | nsadmin | !ooc |
| 12:58.56 | dpkg | methinks ooc is Out Of Context |
| 12:59.08 | nsadmin | !ppc |
| 12:59.08 | dpkg | PowerPC is a <RISC> architecture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC). See "Debian for PowerPC" at http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc . Debian CDs are not (and cannot be made) bootable on Old World PowerMacs. Information on proper partitioning is at http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.txt . See also <yaboot>, <quik>, <bootx>, <ppc64>, <macsound>. #debianppc on irc.oftc.net and irc.freenode.net. |
| 12:59.30 | alexfu | nsadmin: I have eth0, lo, pan0, and wlan0 all listed. |
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| 12:59.51 | linuxuz3r | whats the meta package for installing c c++ development |
| 12:59.58 | nsadmin | try ifup eth0 |
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| 13:00.16 | nsadmin | linuxuz3r build-essential |
| 13:00.18 | alexfu | nsadmin: tried it. i get "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0" |
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| 13:01.06 | nsadmin | ok, so it's not in your /etc/network/interfaces |
| 13:01.17 | nsadmin | is this a laptop? |
| 13:01.29 | alexfu | nsadmin: yes |
| 13:01.53 | nsadmin | do you want to configure a perm connection in a text file? |
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| 13:02.40 | alexfu | nsadmin: this laptop will always be plugged in via ethernet so, yes i suppose. |
| 13:03.13 | nsadmin | so, it will never be say a travelling companion? |
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| 13:03.23 | alexfu | nsadmin: no |
| 13:04.11 | nsadmin | ok, try adding this to your /etc/network/interfaces: iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 13:04.27 | nsadmin | then ifup eth0 will do something |
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| 13:06.08 | sys_fail | wicd-curses works with wired interfaces too if you are interested |
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| 13:08.52 | linuxuz3r | nsadmin, thanks im off to sleep |
| 13:08.52 | nsadmin | sys_fail, thats what I was thinking (not necessarily curses) too, but he said he wants a perm connection |
| 13:09.35 | nsadmin | linuxuz3r, install c++ and then... fall asleep? |
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| 13:13.14 | alexfu | nsadmin: i think i found my issue? I had a DHCP reservation for that laptop setup in my router when the laptop was running Ubuntu server. I just installed debian on it (replacing Ubuntu server) and also changed the hostname. as soon as i removed that reservation it picked up an ip. |
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| 13:14.45 | boudiccas | cardamon: do you work for microsoft? the answer you gave me was correct, it may even be factually correct, but, it didn't answer the question i posed! |
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| 13:15.09 | sys_fail | nsadmin, true it can be cli or w/e, curses is the most practical I think, and it looks cool. |
| 13:15.24 | cardamon | boudiccas: How about no then? |
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| 13:15.33 | cardamon | Does that answer your question? |
| 13:15.53 | boudiccas | cardamon: yes, thank you |
| 13:16.07 | cardamon | boudiccas: Nothing to do but be patient or find a bigger pipe. |
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| 13:17.16 | cardamon | Cracking open the external harddrive if it's SATA and just plugging it into the computer might work. Even older SATA is probably faster than USB2.0 or older. |
| 13:17.44 | cardamon | I do that when I use a laptop harddrive as a "backup" sometimes. |
| 13:17.57 | boudiccas | cardamon: no, its not sata, nothing that uptodate on this machine! :) |
| 13:17.57 | cardamon | Beats rsyncing over the network. |
| 13:18.40 | nsadmin | sys_fail, true enuf... and, it turned out the problem he was having surprised both of us |
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| 13:20.10 | sys_fail | router based? |
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| 13:21.10 | nsadmin | he said his dhcp server had a lease it was trying to use with the laptop |
| 13:21.22 | cardamon | Anyone familiar with the proprietary nvidia driver and video tearing? Don't have anything doing compositing and I do all my config in Xorg.conf directly. |
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| 13:21.50 | nsadmin | and it was something about that lease cause when he removed it, he finally got an ip |
| 13:21.57 | alexey_knyshev | Why I have always this error on install step: 'CMake Error at cmake_install.cmake:42 (FILE): file INSTALL cannot copy file "/home/foo/dev/foo/bin/foo" to "/usr/bin/foo".' while trying to build deb by 'dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot'? |
| 13:22.06 | alexey_knyshev | It looks like dpkg-buildpackage don't run in fakeroot, but it does: 'fakeroot debian/rules binary'. I've no ideas, plz help |
| 13:23.23 | nsadmin | alexey_knyshev, you might as well try: |
| 13:23.31 | nsadmin | fakeroot debian/rules clean |
| 13:23.36 | nsadmin | fakeroot debian/rules build |
| 13:23.40 | nsadmin | fakeroot debian/rules binary |
| 13:24.21 | nsadmin | then you can rule in or out dpkg-buildpackage as the problem |
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| 13:25.09 | nsadmin | if you get the same problem, it's not dpkg-buildpackage |
| 13:26.33 | alexey_knyshev | nsadmin, ok, thx, I'm going to try it now |
| 13:27.16 | nsadmin | is this something you're packaging? or you just want to build an existing package? |
| 13:28.52 | alexey_knyshev | nsadmin, I'm trying to build our company program, so it is not in any existence package yet... |
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| 13:30.28 | nsadmin | ok, cool. a coupla sources of info, the debian packaging manual, and an irc channel on irc.oftc.net #debian-mentors |
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| 13:31.10 | nsadmin | splittles! |
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| 13:32.47 | wolfmitchell | Is the package 'git' in any of the repos that come with Debian's sources.list on a fresh install? If so, then apt-get is not finding it. |
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| 13:33.25 | nsadmin | , versions git-core |
| 13:33.26 | judd | Package: git-core on i386 -- lenny-volatile: 1:1.5.6.5-3+lenny3.1+b1~volatile1; lenny-security: 1:1.5.6.5-3+lenny3.2; lenny: 1:1.5.6.5-3+lenny3.3; lenny-backports: 1:1.7.2.3-2.2~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1:1.7.2.5-3; squeeze-backports: 1:1.7.10-1~bpo60+1; sid: 1:1.7.10.4-1; wheezy: 1:1.7.10.4-1 |
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| 13:34.21 | nsadmin | wolfmitchell also you may be interested in the output of apt-cache search git |
| 13:34.26 | wolfmitchell | Did that |
| 13:34.38 | nsadmin | you may also wish to install gitl |
| 13:34.55 | wolfmitchell | Unable to locate package gitl |
| 13:35.06 | wolfmitchell | I did try reinstalling |
| 13:35.12 | nsadmin | err gitk |
| 13:35.12 | abrotman | wolfmitchell: which version of debian is this? |
| 13:35.17 | wolfmitchell | 6 |
| 13:35.34 | wolfmitchell | Using a template for a host1free VPS (This is on a VPS) |
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| 13:36.00 | wolfmitchell | 32bit |
| 13:37.51 | nsadmin | wolfmitchell, you'll want to start with git-core, that has all the basic stuff |
| 13:38.17 | wolfmitchell | No package found |
| 13:38.18 | wolfmitchell | :< |
| 13:38.37 | nsadmin | ok, then it's something about your sources.list |
| 13:38.59 | abrotman | wolfmitchell: put your sources.list in a pastebin |
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| 13:39.34 | nsadmin | the full path to that file is /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 13:39.56 | wolfmitchell | http://pastebin.com/nQga8iCz |
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| 13:41.09 | nsadmin | what country are you in? |
| 13:41.15 | wolfmitchell | US |
| 13:41.21 | wolfmitchell | The VPS is in france afaik |
| 13:41.37 | nsadmin | oh, let's get a mirror closer to france |
| 13:41.38 | abrotman | shouldnt matter here |
| 13:41.55 | abrotman | wolfmitchell: when is the last time you did an apt-get update? |
| 13:42.04 | wolfmitchell | Around 5 mins ago |
| 13:42.09 | nsadmin | replace ftp.debian.org with ftp.fr.debian.org, then run aptitude update |
| 13:42.18 | abrotman | .... |
| 13:42.21 | wolfmitchell | Ok |
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| 13:45.10 | nsadmin | when you try to install the package git-core (not git), show all output |
| 13:45.17 | wolfmitchell | Ok |
| 13:45.17 | nsadmin | again in a pastebin |
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| 13:46.25 | wolfmitchell | Ah |
| 13:46.30 | wolfmitchell | It works :D |
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| 13:47.11 | nsadmin | great, with the added benefit that it's going to be much faster |
| 13:47.15 | wolfmitchell | :D |
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| 13:47.51 | nsadmin | if you find that the vps is not in france, you can adjust if you want |
| 13:48.13 | nsadmin | I'm guessing you won't need gitk btw, it's an x client |
| 13:48.37 | abrotman | or he could have used the geo mirror instead ... |
| 13:48.40 | silverarrow | anyone on ppc? |
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| 13:48.54 | abrotman | lots of people, just ask |
| 13:48.58 | nsadmin | what's a geo mirror? |
| 13:49.07 | abrotman | you should know |
| 13:49.19 | nsadmin | no, and I don't. |
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| 13:50.55 | abrotman | silverarrow: you can try here of #debianppc |
| 13:50.58 | abrotman | or |
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| 13:51.19 | silverarrow | thanks |
| 13:51.29 | silverarrow | I am already there though, dormant channel it seems |
| 13:51.42 | abrotman | tried oftc also? |
| 13:51.47 | nsadmin | silverarrow, earlier, you had asked the same question, I provided you with some additional sources of info... was there something else you'd like? |
| 13:51.49 | abrotman | anyway, ask here |
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| 13:54.02 | silverarrow | there is a java basted Bank ID test page that crashes immediately in browser on ppc. I was hoping to find someone on a ppc computer willing to do the test |
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| 13:54.24 | abrotman | silverarrow: using which jre? |
| 13:54.41 | silverarrow | I have iced tea packages |
| 13:55.17 | abrotman | using squeeze? |
| 13:55.28 | silverarrow | hmm, not sure |
| 13:55.29 | sneex | The ice Tea package does support all jre the remote client wants |
| 13:55.34 | silverarrow | https://www.bankid.no/Hjelp-og-nyttige-verktoy/Nyttige-verktoy/Test-din-BankID/ |
| 13:55.36 | sneex | doesnot |
| 13:56.09 | silverarrow | java does work on the java test page, but not the Bank ID |
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| 13:56.30 | abrotman | silverarrow: look in your sources.list |
| 13:56.47 | abrotman | sneex: which would be a bug that should be fiiled |
| 13:56.59 | sneex | k |
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| 13:58.04 | abrotman | silverarrow: if you have wheezy/sid, you can choose betwwen openjdk 6/7 IIRC |
| 13:59.01 | silverarrow | ...still looking... |
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| 13:59.32 | boudiccas | where does iceweasel store its bookmarks please? |
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| 14:01.36 | silverarrow | yes I have a zqueeze package |
| 14:01.45 | abrotman | silverarrow: also in non-free, you have the sun java |
| 14:02.07 | abrotman | silverarrow: choices are openjdk6 or sun java 6 |
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| 14:02.28 | silverarrow | however, I had to install iced tea to make java work on powerpc |
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| 14:02.42 | silverarrow | I see |
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| 14:03.26 | silverarrow | java works fine in the test on Java`s own site |
| 14:03.41 | silverarrow | it is the bank ID test that crashes |
| 14:03.52 | silverarrow | never mind for now |
| 14:03.54 | abrotman | tried another browser? |
| 14:04.05 | silverarrow | only FF |
| 14:04.07 | eventide | boudiccas: ~/.mozilla/firefox/{profile}/bookmarks.html |
| 14:04.20 | silverarrow | ok, another browser |
| 14:05.07 | sneex | submitted bug :P |
| 14:05.11 | boudiccas | eventide: thanks |
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| 14:05.23 | silverarrow | and I would still be looking for someone booted on powerpc :-) |
| 14:05.35 | sneex | ppc rocks |
| 14:06.21 | silverarrow | well, it`s debatable lol |
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| 14:06.34 | sneex | psst - Intel won :P |
| 14:06.49 | sneex | I love ppc |
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| 14:07.39 | silverarrow | I have an iBook G4, nice to write on |
| 14:07.49 | silverarrow | silent and cool |
| 14:08.08 | trysten | i use my iBook to write on all the time |
| 14:08.11 | silverarrow | flash and media streams is a calleng though |
| 14:08.14 | trysten | way more stylish than a clipboard |
| 14:08.24 | sneex | yep I used to have a G3 lappy but I dropped a bowling ball on it :( |
| 14:08.31 | trysten | silverarrow: i can test your website as soon as i fix the interwebz on my ppc |
| 14:08.40 | silverarrow | oh, those are big and heavy |
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| 14:09.09 | silverarrow | midori handled the test |
| 14:09.17 | silverarrow | I have firefox 14.01 I think |
| 14:09.21 | silverarrow | which crashed |
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| 14:10.10 | silverarrow | trysten: thanks |
| 14:10.52 | silverarrow | midori test turned out a bit weird |
| 14:11.09 | silverarrow | is says I have safari 5.0 and osx? |
| 14:11.16 | silverarrow | I am in linux |
| 14:11.48 | silverarrow | communication turned out all righit seems |
| 14:11.57 | sneex | silverarrow: It appears that java applet uses a 2010 certificate :P |
| 14:12.12 | sneex | an old verisign set |
| 14:16.33 | netecho | I seem to be having issues getting http://code.google.com/edu/submissions/html-css-javascript/#css the videos on this page to play in iceweasle the right click controls are there but I get black boxes |
| 14:18.26 | sneex | netecho: you using latest iceweasel? |
| 14:18.36 | netecho | sneex: yea |
| 14:18.45 | netecho | 14.0.1 |
| 14:19.24 | sneex | k I have that too - it doesnt work but it does in FF 14.0.1 |
| 14:19.42 | sneex | netecho: you need to report the bug |
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| 14:20.04 | netecho | sneex: any particular way? |
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| 14:20.30 | netecho | I've never had to do bug reports before |
| 14:20.31 | sneex | use reportbug ; apt-get install reportbug and run it as a regular user |
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| 14:20.47 | sneex | it easy |
| 14:20.54 | sneex | it's |
| 14:21.19 | silverarrow | I wasn` allowed back in |
| 14:21.27 | sneex | here? |
| 14:22.16 | silverarrow | debian has reached its limited number of users or something like that |
| 14:22.39 | silverarrow | but eventually I was allowed so.. |
| 14:23.09 | netecho | the bot ups the user limit as people join so that the channel doesn't get flooded with joins I believe |
| 14:23.17 | sneex | netsplit |
| 14:23.46 | sneex | lots just hang out :P |
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| 14:25.12 | trysten | that's smart |
| 14:25.26 | silverarrow | that site is really heavy on system, or java /firefox crashe on ppc |
| 14:26.10 | silverarrow | I need to update java apparently |
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| 14:31.33 | silverarrow | can anyone explain what iced tea is, compared to other java packages? |
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| 14:31.55 | sneex | nothing like getting da boot :P |
| 14:32.05 | silverarrow | you did too? |
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| 14:32.24 | ManoftheSea | silverarrow: I believe icedtea is the opensource java |
| 14:32.39 | ManoftheSea | but that phrase is about the limit of what I've heard. |
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| 14:33.38 | sneex | icetea is good but there are some remotes that do not interact with it well |
| 14:34.07 | sneex | games.yahoo.com work but is flakey and pogo just fails for example |
| 14:35.05 | silverarrow | thanks both of you |
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| 14:38.14 | sneex | let try coming back as debina :P brb |
| 14:38.17 | silverarrow | I might have to read and test a bit |
| 14:39.47 | silverarrow | no debina here |
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| 14:40.49 | ManoftheSea | iandeb? |
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| 14:43.01 | silverarrow | not allowed back in? |
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| 14:44.53 | sneex | hey, how would you reset or stop utc? Mine keeps getting reset |
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| 14:51.38 | sneex | hwclock --systohc (not use --utc) good enough? |
| 14:52.11 | sneex | lets reboot again and find out :) |
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| 14:53.33 | silverarrow | :- ) |
| 14:53.42 | silverarrow | I hvave no idea really |
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| 15:05.19 | BenBE | Any Debian Developer around? How big are the chances for a package that hasn't been updated for 2.5 years despite a bug ticket from two years ago submitted by the upstream maintainer to be updated to the latest version (7 releases later) to be brought up to date when there are two security issues pending which will be closed by updating to the latest version? |
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| 15:05.52 | Sos | hi |
| 15:06.00 | BenBE | Hi |
| 15:06.13 | Sos | I need some newb treatment |
| 15:06.23 | BenBE | In which area? |
| 15:06.46 | Sos | i am too cheap to get a cPanel and I need to setup my VPS for multiple domain andling |
| 15:06.54 | Sos | i already set up apache and redirected DNS |
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| 15:07.06 | Sos | i just need to have the NSes point at my VPS |
| 15:07.18 | BenBE | Try ispCP. It's not packaged for Debian (yet), but not too hard to setup using the manual instructions they provide |
| 15:07.27 | Sos | is it lightweight? |
| 15:07.40 | Sos | googles that |
| 15:07.42 | BenBE | Kinda. |
| 15:08.17 | BenBE | Sos: http://isp-control.net/ |
| 15:08.27 | BenBE | It's what I'm using for 0 domains. |
| 15:08.33 | BenBE | It's what I'm using for 50 domains. |
| 15:08.49 | Sos | looks good |
| 15:09.03 | BenBE | It's open source AND works great ;-) |
| 15:09.21 | Sos | thanks! |
| 15:09.26 | Sos | i was looking for a way to do it manually |
| 15:09.37 | Sos | but i guess it's worth a shot |
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| 15:10.31 | BenBE | It saves a lot of time but doesn't limit you too much. |
| 15:11.04 | Sos | yeah i was looking through the webpanels and most of them were overkill |
| 15:11.10 | Sos | meant for hosting providers |
| 15:11.29 | BenBE | Only drawback: You have to do some things like SSL by hand. |
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| 15:14.20 | Rotgut | I have a problem with mounting NFS when using 3.5.2 kernel. When I try to mount NFS nothing happens, no timeout or errors. This is what dmesg says about it http://pastebin.com/PJymquT1 . Is this actually a bug in the kernel or something I have caused? Same thing happens with 3.4.9 kernel, but mounting NFS works just fine with 3.2 kernel. |
| 15:14.41 | nsadmin | ,kernels |
| 15:14.42 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.5-trunk-686-pae (3.5-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-3-686-pae (3.2.23-1); wheezy: 3.2.0-3-686-pae (3.2.23-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.2.20-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-45); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-29) |
| 15:15.12 | nsadmin | so use 3.2 |
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| 15:15.38 | nsadmin | everything else works with 3.2, yes? |
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| 15:17.25 | Sos | if I have the domain pointing at the right DNS, it should work immediately when it's set up from my server, right? |
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| 15:17.46 | nsadmin | might take a day to propigate |
| 15:18.00 | jelly-home | Rotgut: it's usually a kernel bug. Not necessarily in the place the message points to. |
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| 15:19.21 | Rotgut | yes I am using 3.2 now but I wanted to ask if anyone had any insight on this issue. Just wanted to know if this a real bug in the kernel that I should report. |
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| 15:20.21 | nsadmin | Rotgut, at the very least you could discuss it both with debian kernel maints and upstream |
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| 15:22.08 | nsadmin | Rotgut, the 3.2 that you mention, is it from kernel.org or from the debian provided kernel? |
| 15:22.22 | Rotgut | debian provided kernel |
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| 15:22.51 | jelly-home | Rotgut: if you get rid of the nvidia blob driver and are still able to reproduce it, report it. |
| 15:23.17 | nsadmin | ok, debian does patch their kernels with patches other than the ones that get you from one vanilla version to the next |
| 15:23.44 | gnarface | and they even usually don't suck! |
| 15:24.02 | nsadmin | not definitive, but one of those patches could explain why the 3.2 has working nfs |
| 15:24.27 | nsadmin | yes, it's true, the debian-provided kernels generally don't suck |
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| 15:34.10 | Sos | ok, installing ispcp, thanks BenBE |
| 15:34.22 | Sos | i wonder if having set up domains in apache before hand will cause trouble |
| 15:34.31 | Sos | oh well, i'll remove them if needed |
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| 15:40.33 | BenBE | just installed 3.6.0rc2 on a Debian-derivative ... |
| 15:40.57 | BenBE | Any Debian Developer around? How big are the chances for a package that hasn't been updated for 2.5 years despite a bug ticket from two years ago submitted by the upstream maintainer to be updated to the latest version (7 releases later) to be brought up to date when there are two security issues pending which will be closed by updating to the latest version? |
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| 15:42.25 | dondelelcaro | BenBE: low in time for wheezy. However, the alternative is for the package to be removed. |
| 15:42.35 | BenBE | Sos: ispCP will handle all domains you register with it; so either don't register the pre-setup domains with ispCP OR make sure to not mix them (it's okay to have a subdomain outside ispCP's control though) |
| 15:42.44 | dondelelcaro | BenBE: the two security bugs will have to be fixed even if a new version doesn't make it into the stable release |
| 15:42.57 | Sos | BenBE, i'll just remove them |
| 15:42.58 | dondelelcaro | BenBE: please make sure that the two bugs are filed with severity serious and tagged security |
| 15:43.17 | BenBE | dondelelcaro: k, will do so. |
| 15:44.31 | BenBE | dondelelcaro: Currently at packaging the latest version; though the release tag has already been made. |
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| 15:48.12 | dondelelcaro | BenBE: looks like there's a collaborative group which maintains that package. If you're interested in mediawiki, I'm pretty sure they'd like more people to help out. [And even if you're only interested in that package.] |
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| 15:50.08 | polix | Hello :) |
| 15:50.32 | BenBE | dondelelcaro: I'm upstream of that particular package AND I complained several times that no packaging of new versions has taken place despite explicit notice to them. |
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| 15:53.48 | dondelelcaro | BenBE: ah, got it |
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| 15:56.07 | dondelelcaro | BenBE: anyway, it looks like Romain Beauxis <toots@debian.org> is the primary person who is maintaining that package; I would contact him directly, and ask if you can help. |
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| 15:56.57 | BenBE | dondelelcaro: Last time I contacted him directly I not even got a reply. |
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| 15:58.28 | dondelelcaro | BenBE: he's around, though it's possible that he's on vacation for august if you just e-mailed him recently |
| 15:59.00 | dondelelcaro | BenBE: and as far as getting someone to sponsor the NMU, I'd ask on #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net |
| 15:59.07 | BenBE | dondelelcaro: No, wasn't that recent. |
| 15:59.20 | dondelelcaro | BenBE: since there are many more people there who would be able to help |
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| 15:59.41 | dondelelcaro | (and the odds of finding someone who maintains or knows who maintains PHP packages is much higher than here) |
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| 16:05.45 | Sos | crap, it doesn't work |
| 16:05.49 | Sos | googles stuff |
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| 16:19.45 | Sos | ok i broke everything |
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| 16:22.44 | Diopter | Sos: Grats! |
| 16:22.50 | Diopter | Oh wait, guess that's bad |
| 16:22.53 | Sos | haha |
| 16:23.03 | Sos | vps reinstall took olike 15 seconds |
| 16:23.10 | Sos | i feel cleaner now too |
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| 16:23.38 | Diopter | Mmm, cleaner |
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| 16:32.34 | Vibe | hi |
| 16:33.07 | Vibe | I this is question would be better to ask in proxmox channel but its dead |
| 16:33.23 | jelly-home | Vibe: it's Sunday. Be patient. |
| 16:33.27 | Vibe | its though based on squeeze |
| 16:33.28 | Vibe | yes |
| 16:33.34 | jelly-home | !based on |
| 16:33.34 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 16:34.34 | jelly-home | Vibe: ##linux however, fits any distro |
| 16:34.39 | Vibe | its squeeze but kernel might be recompiled |
| 16:35.36 | Vibe | can't see my usb stick with dmesg or df |
| 16:35.43 | nkuttler | Vibe: stop guessing and ask the support for your distro |
| 16:35.51 | Vibe | show just present hdd (sda) |
| 16:35.59 | Vibe | theres no one atm |
| 16:36.09 | Vibe | have waited many hours |
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| 16:36.54 | Vibe | df -h shows empty |
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| 16:37.42 | nkuttler | Vibe: install debian and we'll be able to help you. why use a different distro if it only has a different kernel anyway.. |
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| 16:40.29 | jelly-home | it has quite a bit more than just the kernel |
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| 16:41.40 | Vibe | k |
| 16:42.23 | Vibe | I install first squeeze and then proxmox on it |
| 16:42.36 | Vibe | now seems to be working with squeeze mini iso |
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| 16:43.09 | Vibe | downloading release file |
| 16:43.10 | Vibe | s |
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| 16:45.31 | Vibe | hmmm "bad archieve mirror" trying another one |
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| 16:51.56 | reactormonk | is there any way to debug RTNETLINK answers: Device or resource busy |
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| 17:04.41 | Vibe | mmmm can't use squeeze mini.iso r8169 driver crashes :/ |
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| 17:11.03 | polix | does the kernel have unfree drivers? |
| 17:12.01 | Vibe | i dunno |
| 17:12.11 | youlysses | polix: Debian's no? Linux-vannila, yeah. |
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| 17:12.52 | polix | youlysses: I mean the kernel from kernel.org |
| 17:13.10 | Vibe | now tried to install from cd, squeeze installer says can't detect common CD-ROM drive |
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| 17:13.38 | nkuttler | polix: depends on your definition of free |
| 17:14.46 | polix | nkuttler: free is for me, when I get it for free and it's open source :=) |
| 17:15.34 | nkuttler | polix: afaik the kernel only contains some firmware blobs.. like i said, depends on your definition |
| 17:16.13 | polix | nkuttler: aah, ok :=) |
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| 17:17.46 | Vibe | I am using ide->usb adapter |
| 17:18.42 | Vibe | how do I see what dev is my "cdrom" ? |
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| 17:19.42 | Vibe | running squeeze on it atm |
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| 17:19.55 | anigma | Vibe: df -h |
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| 17:20.20 | Vibe | theres just "tmpfs" |
| 17:21.09 | Vibe | 7.9G mounted on /dev 0% use |
| 17:23.27 | anigma | Vibe: try 'mount' |
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| 17:25.27 | Vibe | rootfs on /, none on /proc, none /sys, tmpfs on /dev, none on /dev/pts |
| 17:27.43 | Vibe | got some "device not accepting address 5, error -32" in dmesg |
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| 17:29.08 | guardian | hello, when autosshing into a debian squeeze box, I'm regularly getting "channel 4: bad ext data" errors printed into my term |
| 17:29.17 | guardian | tried to google for that message without success |
| 17:29.23 | guardian | does it ring a bell to someone? |
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| 17:29.36 | jelly-home | Vibe: try a different usb port. if that fails, try a different kernel |
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| 17:29.46 | guardian | I don't really know where to look at, whether it's autossh, ssh (client), ssh (server) or something else |
| 17:30.03 | Vibe | jelly-home: ok, its installer cd |
| 17:30.21 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell Vibe about kmuto |
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| 17:32.45 | silverarrow | what is really the issue with powerpc? |
| 17:32.47 | BlairA | I'm looking to update my system - If I change my package version priorites to the squeeze-backport and run a dist-upgrade will that work? |
| 17:32.56 | BlairA | Quite new to apt |
| 17:34.21 | streuner_ | BlairA: what kind of version of Debian do you expect to work? |
| 17:34.49 | BlairA | I'm running !# statler based off squeeze |
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| 17:35.33 | streuner_ | dpkg, statler |
| 17:35.33 | dpkg | CrunchBang Linux is a Live CD distribution originally based on <Ubuntu>, now based on Debian as of version 10, featuring the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.crunchbanglinux.org/ #crunchbang on irc.freenode.net. See <based on debian>. |
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| 17:38.56 | dawud | I'm having an issue with the partman section of a preseed.cfg: "the automatic partition recipe contains the definition of a volume group that does not contain any physical volume" http://paste.debian.net/184615 |
| 17:39.32 | colock | dawud: on it... |
| 17:39.40 | dawud | colock: ok, thanks |
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| 17:41.08 | colock | can you try to unify the two parts of the recipe and see what happens dawud ? like not having physical-volumes and logical-volumes but a single my-own-lvm-setup ? |
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| 17:42.40 | colock | also, try using "lvm" instead of "ext4" in the primary partition... |
| 17:44.13 | dawud | colock: I tend to have /boot at an indivual partition (old habits maybe) but grub2 does support having /boot in an LVM, right? let me check the other stuff |
| 17:44.20 | dawud | supports* |
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| 17:44.57 | colock | dawud: i do /boot ext2 too |
| 17:45.09 | colock | lvm needs some initrd magic, if i'm not completely wrong |
| 17:45.25 | colock | initrd on lvm would be chicken-egg-problem (unless, of course, grub2 supports it right away) |
| 17:46.03 | dawud | colock: ah, but you meant s/ext4/lvm in the _second_ primary, the one defining the vg, right? |
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| 17:46.16 | colock | yes dawud |
| 17:46.20 | dawud | colock: ok :) |
| 17:46.35 | colock | check out my recipe: http://paste.debian.net/184619/ |
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| 17:48.03 | xingu | colock: it's sufficient to just put /boot on a standalone mbr/gpt partition |
| 17:49.04 | xingu | colock: I was impressed for instance at how painless it is to use lvm on top of luks'd partitions |
| 17:49.13 | colock | well, that doesn't solve the problem that my lvm volume group is encrypted. Don't know if grub can prompt for the passphrase to decrypt it before booting the kernel |
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| 17:49.39 | ManoftheSea | colock: not the version in debian. |
| 17:49.43 | xingu | colock: /boot needs to be unencrypted, but the rest works out of the box; that's exactly what I run here |
| 17:49.50 | ManoftheSea | But Grub2.00 can do unlock of luks |
| 17:49.58 | colock | okay |
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| 17:50.02 | colock | ManoftheSea: nice |
| 17:50.06 | ManoftheSea | I have debianized packages of grub2, if you like. |
| 17:50.29 | xingu | colock: the whole thing works reasonably well; /boot can be on a usb stick if your bios supports it... |
| 17:50.51 | colock | well, i don't use debian on my personal laptop, only on servers. and servers that needs manual intervention and physical presence to boot/reboot aren't that nice |
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| 17:51.21 | ManoftheSea | how do you unlock the disk? |
| 17:51.23 | colock | but it's nice to know grub2 supports luks+lvm right away |
| 17:51.28 | colock | i don't encrypt the disk |
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| 17:51.48 | ManoftheSea | oh. I misunderstood, then. |
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| 17:52.12 | colock | still, on my laptop i have a truecrypt volume image with all the ssh/ssl keys |
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| 17:53.56 | xingu | colock: encryption keys without passphrases are like summer without beer |
| 17:54.33 | colock | well, luks+lvm the whole volume group + truecrypt disk image + encrypted ssh/ssl keys in it |
| 17:54.43 | colock | on server the ssl key is without passphrase |
| 17:54.48 | xingu | I'd be more worried about servers that auto-booted and auto-unlocked their certificates than just storing the data naked |
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| 17:54.55 | colock | especially the openvpn server one |
| 17:55.08 | colock | as the only way inside the server's dmz is through the VPN |
| 17:55.27 | colock | having to type that passphrase is impossible without prior connection within openvpn |
| 17:55.36 | colock | didn't find any better way |
| 17:55.38 | boudiccas | truecrypt is the bee's knees, wouldn't be without it now |
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| 17:57.57 | xingu | the main problem with private keys with no passphrase is that once they've been stolen you're done |
| 17:58.18 | lasers | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:58.22 | lasers | (oops) |
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| 17:59.11 | colock | xingu: if you have secured the root CA, you can revoke them. |
| 18:00.01 | xingu | colock: sure; but for full disk encryption, you're talking about something that's effectively a self-signed CA; if someone steals the server's disks they have your cleartext. :) |
| 18:00.47 | colock | still they only have the services' cert keys, not the CA keys |
| 18:00.47 | xingu | it's not too big a process problem to ensure that servers need a usb key attached to boot/ unlock their root volume. |
| 18:01.10 | colock | what prevents someone to just copy the usb key in it? |
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| 18:01.22 | xingu | the point is the usb key is removed again after boot |
| 18:01.25 | colock | if they have access to the server, the can access /dev/sdb too, no? |
| 18:01.54 | colock | well, if I can afford physical presence at bootup, i would do full disk encryption with a passphrase, no? |
| 18:02.02 | xingu | indeed :) |
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| 18:02.42 | xingu | mind you it's far easier to hand over a sheet that says "insert key, turn on" than says "go find a crash cart, attach keyboard, attach screen, type in this key" |
| 18:03.23 | colock | of course |
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| 18:03.28 | xingu | easier to manage rekeying too |
| 18:03.28 | colock | delegation is the key |
| 18:03.35 | boudiccas | xingu: 'crash cart'? arrest trolley like used in hospitals at cardiac arrests? |
| 18:03.37 | colock | and keys are key for delegation |
| 18:03.39 | colock | :P |
| 18:03.56 | xingu | boudiccas: that's exactly it... :) most colos call them that for precisely that reason |
| 18:03.58 | dawud | colock: so far it has failed with same error, I'm modifying the recipe a bit and try again, brb to report, and thanks btw |
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| 18:04.05 | colock | kay dawud |
| 18:04.23 | colock | dawud: are you sure your recipe is being read and it's not using another one because of some other errors? |
| 18:05.07 | dawud | colock: not possible |
| 18:05.07 | colock | I had this problem (using old d-i version, with did min_size = sum(physical_partitions + logical_volumes) == ~ 200% of disk size |
| 18:05.29 | colock | kay |
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| 18:10.00 | Vibe | hmmm did -> zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdc and moved squeeze net inst in root of usb stick |
| 18:10.10 | Vibe | but installer can't still find it |
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| 18:10.42 | colock | lacking some other files flagging the partition as being _the_ installation media? |
| 18:11.10 | dawud | colock: it works now, I also was missing filesystem type and mountpoint for my last LV, thanks! |
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| 18:11.28 | colock | yay dawud ! |
| 18:11.35 | polix | hi colock |
| 18:11.41 | Vibe | boots fine but can't find iso when installing |
| 18:11.43 | colock | preseeding is awesome ;) |
| 18:12.12 | colock | Vibe: so? is ls your_mounted_device looking exactly the same as the mounter .iso? |
| 18:12.17 | colock | *mounted |
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| 18:12.50 | Vibe | nope.. |
| 18:13.02 | colock | what's on iso that's not on your mounted device? |
| 18:13.03 | dawud | colock: indeed + d-i pkgsel/include string puppet + some d-i preseed/late_command string magic :) |
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| 18:13.27 | Vibe | that iso I moved there |
| 18:13.28 | colock | dawud: add some apt-cacher-ng and some virtualization software to it, and you'll see the start from above |
| 18:13.30 | Vibe | using kmuto iso |
| 18:13.31 | colock | *stars |
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| 18:13.50 | colock | Vibe: and iso inside a partition != a partition with same content of the iso |
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| 18:13.54 | Vibe | "After that, mount the USB memory stick (mount /dev/sdX /mnt), which will now have a FAT filesystem on it, and copy a Debian netinst or businesscard ISO image to it. Unmount the stick (umount /mnt) and you are done." said that after zcat |
| 18:14.17 | colock | not sure what are you reading this from Vibe ... |
| 18:14.26 | Vibe | colock: http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 |
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| 18:15.41 | colock | Vibe: never tried that. Try to copy the /content/ of the iso instead of the iso itself and see if it helps... |
| 18:16.10 | colock | or maybe someone with more knowledge than me about this could step in... |
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| 18:17.02 | eshep | can anyone help me with an apt-get regex solution? |
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| 18:25.01 | djzn | has xfce been chosen as default user interface for debian next ? |
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| 18:28.40 | rue_house | apt search SDL.h |
| 18:28.50 | rue_house | debhelper, search SDL.h |
| 18:28.57 | rue_house | debhelper search SDL.h |
| 18:29.01 | rue_house | !debhelper search SDL.h |
| 18:29.05 | rue_house | !search SDL.h |
| 18:29.10 | jelly-home | rue_house: stop |
| 18:29.10 | rue_house | !find SDL.h |
| 18:29.21 | rue_house | I know there is a command for it somewhere |
| 18:29.26 | jelly-home | rue_house: /msg judd file SDL.h |
| 18:29.40 | rue_house | how the heck am I supposed to have guessed that? |
| 18:29.47 | jelly-home | ASK! |
| 18:30.08 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'SDL.h' (4 of 7): (/usr/include/SDL/SDL.h) in libdevel/libsdl1.2-dev ;; (/usr/include/plib/puSDL.h) in libdevel/libplib-dev ;; (/usr/share/doc/pike7.8-doc/html/reference/ex/predef_3A_3A/SDL.html) in doc/pike7.8-reference ;; (/usr/lib/haskell-packages/ghc/lib/SDL-0.6.3/ghc-7.4.1/Graphics/UI/SDL.hi) in haskell/libghc-sdl-dev. |
| 18:31.09 | rue_house | libsdl1.2-dev : Depends: libsdl1.2debian (= 1.2.14-6.1) but 1.2.15-5 is to be installed |
| 18:31.10 | jelly-home | dpkg is very slow with find, prefer judd |
| 18:31.10 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, jelly-home |
| 18:31.32 | jelly-home | what's your actual goal, rue_house? |
| 18:31.39 | rue_house | to compile the program I wrote |
| 18:31.47 | rue_house | that compiled before my upgrade |
| 18:31.52 | jelly-home | upgrade from what to what? |
| 18:31.59 | jelly-home | ,v libsdl1.2-dev |
| 18:32.01 | judd | Package: libsdl1.2-dev on i386 -- lenny: 1.2.13-2; squeeze: 1.2.14-6.1; sid: 1.2.15-5; wheezy: 1.2.15-5 |
| 18:32.13 | rue_house | cat /etc/debian_version wheezy/sid |
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| 18:33.39 | jelly-home | rue_house: pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy libsdl1.2-dev libsdl1.2debian" and the complete output of "apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev", please |
| 18:33.48 | rue_house | ok |
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| 18:35.49 | rue_house | http://paste.debian.net/184625/ |
| 18:36.13 | rue_house | what can you pick out for me? |
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| 18:38.56 | rue_house | oh, postgres8.4 is still in cause I cant work out how to move the database over yet, that wont be hanging everything up will it? |
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| 18:42.09 | rue_house | jelly-home, ? |
| 18:42.32 | rue_house | do I have to compile libsdl from source? |
| 18:43.14 | rue_house | what are held packages? |
| 18:43.42 | rue_house | arg, I just want to draw a line... |
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| 18:47.55 | rue_house | the package source list filename changed, I just emptied /etc/apt/sources.list and its still updating packages from servers |
| 18:47.59 | rue_house | whats up with that? |
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| 18:49.04 | rue_house | seriously? sources.list.d !? |
| 18:49.07 | rue_house | ugh |
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| 18:50.57 | doxavore | Is there a way to activate Backports during Debian installation? |
| 18:51.30 | doxavore | I'm trying to install to a server with a fakeraid imsm, and it appears to be fixed in mdadm 3.2 which is now in backports. |
| 18:51.34 | rue_house | doxavore, hang around a while, nobody is answering |
| 18:51.40 | lollasaurus | Did update your repositories, aka apt-get update? |
| 18:51.45 | rue_house | yes |
| 18:52.13 | rue_house | according to apt, my system is completely up to date, and there is no libdsl*-dev available for install |
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| 18:52.37 | lollasaurus | Then I'm no wiser than you are |
| 18:52.38 | rue_house | so I can only presume that debian dropped libsdl |
| 18:52.50 | rue_house | which means I have to compile it myself if I want it |
| 18:52.56 | rue_house | which always hurts |
| 18:53.12 | rue_house | if I wanted to have to compiel everything from scratch I'd just use slakware |
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| 18:53.44 | rue_house | if I never wanted to be able to compile anything I'd use windows :) |
| 18:53.57 | themill | rue_house: I don't think anyone knows what you're actually trying to do... you're yet to ask a question |
| 18:53.59 | themill | !ask |
| 18:54.00 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 18:54.15 | rue_house | I have a program I wrote for SDL that draws a line |
| 18:54.18 | rue_house | I want to compile it |
| 18:54.32 | themill | doxavore: the kmuto installer certainly does that and gives you a newer kernel for the install. /msg dpkg kmuto |
| 18:54.33 | rue_house | after 'the upgarde' I have no libsdl-dev |
| 18:54.47 | rue_house | apt-wont insall it and I dont undertand the problem |
| 18:55.14 | rue_house | http://paste.debian.net/184625/ |
| 18:55.20 | rue_house | there are the details I was asked for |
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| 18:55.27 | whatta | hi |
| 18:55.34 | jelly-home | rue_house: you only have squeeze release configured, but have previously installed stuff from a newer release. Either fully upgrade to wheezy, or reinstall squeeze. |
| 18:55.52 | rue_house | I should update to wheezy then, ok |
| 18:55.58 | rue_house | is wheezy stable? |
| 18:56.05 | rue_house | testing or unstable? |
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| 18:56.11 | whatta | is there a software on debian that do something like "dd if=./an-iso-image.iso of=/dev/sdb" where sdb is an USB stick ? |
| 18:56.14 | themill | rue_house: not yet. It's frozen and heading towards release |
| 18:56.20 | jelly-home | wheezy = testing at present |
| 18:56.33 | zinx | rue_house: unstable is always called sid, now and forever |
| 18:56.45 | zinx | rue_house: testing, stable, and oldstable change |
| 18:56.53 | rue_house | so do I rewrite my apt sources or change the debian_version file? |
| 18:56.56 | whatta | sid, like Sid Vicious :D |
| 18:57.03 | themill | rue_house: and yeah, your "apt problem" is because you've installed libsdl1.2debian from a newer release and that leaves everything in a confused state. |
| 18:57.08 | themill | dpkg: tell rue_house about squeeze->wheezy |
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| 18:57.47 | rue_house | I'v done apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 18:57.51 | rue_house | why is it stuck? |
| 18:58.08 | rue_house | my apt sources say stable |
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| 18:58.31 | rue_house | I shoudl change this to testing? |
| 18:58.32 | themill | rue_house: you have packages there that are not from stable. I have no idea how many as I have no idea what you've done. |
| 18:58.42 | whatta | btw, i tried using pv to set the rate at 3M but it doesnt works... i 've got many "udev .. timeout: killing '/sbin/blkid -o udev -p /dev/sdb' " errors in the syslog . Any clue? |
| 18:59.07 | rue_house | so do I give it an 'unpreffered' testing source to resolve its problem or take evrything to testing? |
| 18:59.13 | whatta | the command i used was "dd if=./iso-image.iso |pv -L 3M > /dev/sdb" |
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| 19:00.53 | themill | rue_house: you need to decide whether you want to run stable or deal with some of the inconveniences you may experience from running the pre-release version of the next release. Once you've decided that, then you can solve things. Please stop stumbling around doing random thing hoping they will work. |
| 19:01.32 | rue_house | how should I get a list of unstable package soruces? |
| 19:01.41 | themill | ... |
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| 19:02.16 | pparadis | rue_house: it sounds like you're trying to mix releases. don't do that. |
| 19:02.19 | maher | what's a useful command to print out lists of days... |
| 19:02.23 | pparadis | !tell rue_house about releases |
| 19:02.52 | pparadis | !tell rue_house about backports |
| 19:03.20 | rue_house | why does debian need backports to stay up to date? |
| 19:03.26 | pparadis | it doesn't. |
| 19:03.33 | pparadis | rue_house: please go actually read the information i just provided. |
| 19:04.01 | jelly-home | maher: lists of days? |
| 19:04.28 | maher | jelly-home: something like cal, but each day on its own line |
| 19:04.42 | pparadis | in other words, you need to define "up to date." the stable release branch is just that, stable. security fixes and major bug fixes get backported to the stable versions of packages in it. therefore, users and devs don't have a moving target to deal with. |
| 19:04.45 | jelly-home | maher: a for loop and date in it |
| 19:04.59 | rue_house | 'backports are allow debian to stay up to date with new applications without staying up to date with dependant libraries that could otherwise cause dependency conflicts |
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| 19:05.01 | pparadis | rue_house: you might also ask dpkg in pm about "sns" |
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| 19:06.26 | pparadis | rue_house: there are two uses of the word "backport" here. there are the security fixes that get backported to the stable release from new versions of upstream packages, and there is the debian backports system, which gives you newer versions of some packages compiled against the current stable release. this is necessary because of ABI changes, etc, that will cause a "mixed release" system to break horribly. |
| 19:06.45 | rue_house | am I wrong that dist-upgrade is to take a person from stable to testing? |
| 19:07.03 | themill | that is one of the uses of dist-upgrade, yes |
| 19:07.09 | pparadis | you're not wrong per se, but that only applies if you've updated your /etc/apt/sources.list to another release. |
| 19:07.15 | rue_house | hmm |
| 19:07.22 | pparadis | what themill said, yoo. |
| 19:07.24 | pparadis | too, even |
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| 19:07.34 | pparadis | rue_house: what are you actually trying to do, and what do you think you need to do it? |
| 19:07.40 | pparadis | argh |
| 19:07.43 | pparadis | needs caffeine |
| 19:07.49 | themill | dpkg: coffee pparadis |
| 19:07.49 | dpkg | decants a fine broth of fair trade Peruvian for pparadis, courtesy of themill |
| 19:07.54 | pparadis | rue_house: what are you actually trying to do, and why do you think you need to do it? |
| 19:07.58 | pparadis | themill: \o |
| 19:08.16 | jelly-home | pparadis: he just wants to build a simple SDL app, but his system is somewhere between stable and testing/unstable |
| 19:08.41 | pparadis | jelly-home: so it's already in that mixed release state. |
| 19:08.44 | jelly-home | yes |
| 19:08.48 | pparadis | nod, thanks |
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| 19:11.09 | rue_house | <rue_house> I have a program I wrote for SDL that draws a line |
| 19:11.09 | rue_house | <rue_house> I want to compile it |
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| 19:13.37 | jelly-home | rue_house: someone or something has destabilized your OS by installing newer binary packages onto a previous installation of Debian 6. From the point of package management system, this needs to be addressed first if you want to make any progress. |
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| 19:14.06 | rue_house | I changed the sources line to testing and it seems to have worked itself out |
| 19:14.10 | jelly-home | right |
| 19:14.30 | themill | rue_house: please use "wheezy" not "testing" in your sources.list |
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| 19:14.43 | rue_house | might that have been the soruce of the origional problem? |
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| 19:15.26 | themill | no, you installing random packages from different releases was the problem |
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| 19:16.14 | rue_house | so at somepoint I must have rewritten the sources list and screwed up the release |
| 19:16.59 | rue_house | yay, it compiles again |
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| 19:18.16 | whatta | needs some good ganja |
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| 19:18.24 | whatta | dpkg: ganja? |
| 19:18.24 | dpkg | it has been said that ganja is a big fatty blunt |
| 19:18.34 | whatta | o.O |
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| 19:20.25 | Guest78953 | herkese selam |
| 19:20.29 | Guest78953 | kimse var mı? |
| 19:20.33 | Guest78953 | nick LS |
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| 19:20.53 | jelly-home | !tr |
| 19:20.53 | dpkg | i guess tr is türkçe yardIm için #debian.tr (irc.freenode.net): -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr on irc.freenode.net, or http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rakewell/z88/keyboards/turkish.jpg |
| 19:21.07 | Guest78953 | gökşin burada mısn? |
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| 19:24.34 | Guest78953 | heeye |
| 19:24.40 | Guest78953 | türk kimse yok mu |
| 19:24.41 | Guest78953 | ? |
| 19:24.42 | trysten | NO SPREAKY ENGRISH |
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| 19:24.55 | Guest78953 | TURKISH |
| 19:25.09 | trysten | dpkg, tell Guest78953 about tr |
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| 19:34.08 | lollasaurus | So when is the new wheezy beta instalker going to be published? |
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| 19:39.33 | themill | lollasaurus: beta2? that's at least a couple of weeks off |
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| 19:46.06 | whatta | ok, solved :D |
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| 19:47.19 | whatta | the command is the same: "dd if=./isofile.iso of=/dev/sdb" but this time i used also "renice 5 $(pidof dd)" and it finished fast. (but the error in the syslog are again the same .. ) |
| 19:47.23 | whatta | bye |
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| 19:53.19 | MO_Handes | is there a way or package to access my home folder with another device (perhaps an Android phone) on the same network (perhaps using browser, via some 198.192.1.*:* address)? |
| 19:53.22 | dodger | hi. |
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| 19:59.41 | Shirakawasuna | MO_Handes: if you're on the same network, you could do a samba share |
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| 20:00.21 | MO_Handes | Shirakawasuna, any manual? isn't it more complicated than I want? |
| 20:00.41 | Shirakawasuna | MO_Handes: well what you want is kinda vague ('access')... samba is pretty easy |
| 20:01.05 | Shirakawasuna | and has the advantage of being popular, so your android phone will be able to access it w/ samba apps / file manager apps |
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| 20:01.48 | Shirakawasuna | it's unlikely to be able to expect that your device will have the same IP on a variety of networks, but you could give it a fairly unique hostname (not technically secure, but at least practical) |
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| 20:02.41 | abrotman | MO_Handes: sshfs ? |
| 20:05.19 | Shirakawasuna | MO_Handes: to give you my perspective, I access a media machine on my home network using ssh, samba, and dlna. They each have their own purposes, so it really depends on what you want to do. |
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| 20:05.53 | ltsampros | hello guys, I've installed the latest nvidia driver on debian testing successfully (302.17) however I'm getting terrible performance |
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| 20:06.15 | ltsampros | I noticed that glxinfo reports that Direct rendering is turned off |
| 20:06.24 | ltsampros | Is there anyway to remedy this ? |
| 20:06.37 | jelly-home | ltsampros: but... the latest is 304.37 already |
| 20:06.45 | jelly-home | ltsampros: how did you install it? |
| 20:06.48 | ltsampros | hm. yeah I just noticed. |
| 20:06.56 | ltsampros | hadn't had the chance to update |
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| 20:07.05 | Shirakawasuna | ltsampros: check Xorg.0.log . Also lsmod for nvidia |
| 20:07.09 | ltsampros | the debian way as documented on the wiki (module assistant) |
| 20:07.28 | ltsampros | I tried a dpkg --purge nvidia-glx and a reinstall but that didn't solve anything |
| 20:07.30 | Shirakawasuna | Xorg.0.log will probably give you a useful error about direct rendering |
| 20:08.16 | ltsampros | I already checked, the libdri and libdri2 modules successfully load |
| 20:08.20 | jelly-home | ltsampros: the wiki for nvidia is a bit messy |
| 20:08.27 | ltsampros | and nvidia driver reports that vdpau successfully registers itself |
| 20:08.40 | jelly-home | ltsampros: pastebin the output of aptitude -F'%a%c%M %30p %10v %10d' search '~i ?source-package(nvidia-graphics-drivers)' |
| 20:09.07 | Shirakawasuna | well vdpau's for video decoding |
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| 20:10.24 | tomreyn | hi. i'm root on a linux-vserver and am trying to get access to the running GNU screen session of another user (actually my user, which i used to access by ssh, but the ssh setup is currently broken for me). can i access the users' screen either as root or after su somehow? |
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| 20:11.38 | ltsampros | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=dmJvf0rn |
| 20:11.41 | tomreyn | $ screen -r 7896.pts-11.hostname |
| 20:11.41 | tomreyn | Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/9' - please check. |
| 20:11.43 | ltsampros | got a newline off |
| 20:11.47 | abrotman | tomreyn: su - <username> .. then screen -Rd |
| 20:11.52 | Shirakawasuna | tomreyn: su youruser -c screen -r 7896 |
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| 20:13.17 | levent | hiii |
| 20:13.24 | tomreyn | Shirakawasuna: the correct syntax seems to be this for your command, but this just returns the same message as above: su -c 'screen -r 7896' alster |
| 20:13.24 | levent | gökşin akdeniz orada mısn? |
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| 20:13.32 | abrotman | levent: english pleaes |
| 20:13.33 | abrotman | please |
| 20:13.39 | jelly-home | ltsampros: looks alright, have you perhaps forgotten to blacklist nouveau kernel module? |
| 20:14.01 | levent | where are you goksin akdeniz... |
| 20:14.25 | ltsampros | jelly-home: nvidia-kernel-common.conf looks fine :) |
| 20:14.25 | abrotman | levent: english please |
| 20:14.35 | abrotman | levent: do you need help with Debian ? |
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| 20:15.03 | levent | abortman: |
| 20:15.09 | abrotman | ... |
| 20:15.09 | Shirakawasuna | tomreyn: seems to be a security feature |
| 20:15.34 | Shirakawasuna | tomreyn: so your options are to mess with the permissions of that terminal or ssh in as your actual user (or at least gain a login shell) |
| 20:16.27 | Shirakawasuna | ltsampros: can you pastebin your Xorg.0.log? |
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| 20:17.31 | ltsampros | Shirakawasuna: sure why not. |
| 20:18.42 | ltsampros | it's a little huge though cause I have debugging enabled |
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| 20:19.29 | tomreyn | yeay, using the 'login' command worked indeed, Thanks Shirakawasuna |
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| 20:20.29 | Shirakawasuna | tomreyn: np |
| 20:21.35 | ltsampros | Shirakawasuna: http://blog.ltsampros.eu/Xorg.0.log |
| 20:22.04 | ltsampros | sorry for the bad content-type, and the size of the file |
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| 20:23.16 | jelly-home | ltsampros: and did you update-initramfs and reboot? |
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| 20:23.46 | ltsampros | hm do i have to run update-initramfs manually ? |
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| 20:24.45 | mustafa | how to open firefox on local machine bu using ssh? |
| 20:24.57 | abrotman | !tell mustafa about sshx |
| 20:25.43 | xand | with firefox/iceweasel it's harder than usual |
| 20:25.46 | jelly-home | ltsampros: possibly maybe. if nouveau is loaded and you got a graphical framebuffer console, yes |
| 20:26.05 | xand | at least, if the browser is already running locally, you have to give it an option to open another instance on the same DISPLAY |
| 20:26.18 | ltsampros | jelly no I don't get any of these |
| 20:26.21 | themill | mustafa: please ask ubuntu support questions in #ubuntu |
| 20:26.29 | Shirakawasuna | ltsampros: strange. Regardless of that, if that's your most recent Xorg.0.log you should have direct rendering. glxinfo | grep direct definitely says 'No'? |
| 20:26.42 | ltsampros | yes! |
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| 20:27.06 | ltsampros | and I'm having a weird performance problem with my KDE and I started looking around |
| 20:27.17 | ltsampros | and that was the only sign of problem |
| 20:27.47 | Shirakawasuna | hmm |
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| 20:29.45 | jelly-home | ltsampros: what does "readlink -f /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux/libglx.so " say? |
| 20:29.55 | ltsampros | Current 'best' version is '/usr/lib/nvidia' |
| 20:30.14 | ltsampros | and for completeness sake: /usr/lib/nvidia/current/libglx.so.302.17 |
| 20:30.28 | jelly-home | everything looks sane |
| 20:30.51 | ltsampros | :/ |
| 20:31.07 | Shirakawasuna | maybe you have a permissions problem |
| 20:31.28 | ltsampros | I 've been getting some weird errors regarding /dev/nvidia* |
| 20:31.41 | ltsampros | but everytime I fix that, something changes them back |
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| 20:32.35 | Shirakawasuna | export LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose |
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| 20:32.44 | Shirakawasuna | and look at the beginning of glxinfo |
| 20:32.48 | Shirakawasuna | in particular, anything about libdri |
| 20:32.55 | Shirakawasuna | or any kind of dri... |
| 20:33.31 | mustafa | abrotman sorry |
| 20:33.37 | mustafa | themill sorry |
| 20:33.57 | ltsampros | Shirakawasuna: I'll be damned. I was piping to more and threw away stderr |
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| 20:34.50 | Shirakawasuna | oh no! :) |
| 20:34.55 | morteza | hi |
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| 20:35.06 | morteza | my grub can load with text mode , but can't load with default mode , how to fix it? |
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| 20:35.38 | ltsampros | Shirakawasuna: http://pastebin.com/G4H0N30k |
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| 20:38.15 | acemi | iptables' osf module don't work in my squeeze box. i get the "iptables: No chain/target/match by that name" message. what is wrong? the command is: iptables -I INPUT -s 127.0.0.1 -p tcp --dport 80 -m osf --genre Linux -j ACCEPT |
| 20:39.03 | Shirakawasuna | aha, sweet |
| 20:39.06 | Shirakawasuna | a useful error |
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| 20:39.58 | Shirakawasuna | might be perms like I said though |
| 20:40.15 | Shirakawasuna | try adding your user to the 'video' group, ltsampros |
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| 20:41.20 | jelly-home | I wonder if nvidia-settings would report anything |
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| 20:41.56 | ltsampros | I can see that glxinfo picksup the wrong libGL from mesa. |
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| 20:43.22 | ltsampros | yeap it seems that every up I check with ldd seems to pick up the wrong libGL libraries. so that might be it |
| 20:43.23 | xand | acemi: won't everything from localhost be the same OS? c.c |
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| 20:44.14 | acemi | this is only for trying. i'll add the real IP |
| 20:44.25 | ltsampros | for example, glxgears picks up every libGL* from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ which are not the nvidia provided ones |
| 20:44.41 | ltsampros | so it seems that's the reason i have different glx server/client vendor strings |
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| 20:47.06 | bventle | Any cons to paying rent through auto-debit by writing a void check? |
| 20:47.09 | bventle | Contact me in private. |
| 20:47.26 | trysten | that's fucking metal |
| 20:48.09 | jelly-home | ltsampros: pastebin ls -la /etc/alternatives/*libGL* |
| 20:49.57 | ltsampros | http://pastebin.com/q4Gp25fX |
| 20:50.02 | abrotman | bventle: do you need help with Debian? |
| 20:50.03 | ltsampros | glx seems wrong :) |
| 20:50.24 | colock | it's not that bad ltsampros |
| 20:50.56 | ltsampros | yeap I missed the '/nvidia/' piece |
| 20:51.04 | colock | i mean, the concepts of glx are not to be thrashed :P |
| 20:51.43 | jelly-home | ltsampros: I have two more, courtesy of glx-diversions package. http://paste.debian.net/184643/ |
| 20:51.58 | Shirakawasuna | ah, cool |
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| 20:52.09 | Shirakawasuna | not sure how to fix that but I bet there's info on the google |
| 20:52.42 | ltsampros | colock: lol! of course they are not to be thrashed |
| 20:53.00 | ltsampros | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:53.27 | ltsampros | jelly-home, Shirakawasuna you were both very helpful guys! |
| 20:53.29 | ltsampros | thank you. |
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| 20:53.46 | ltsampros | I'll just try installing glx-diversions and messing with update-alternatives |
| 20:54.06 | colock | well, in future i would avoid the "messing with" part :P |
| 20:54.29 | colock | with something like "gently taking care of" |
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| 20:55.09 | jelly-home | steps away from colock, slowly |
| 20:55.37 | mmnicolas | gently stroke back and forth |
| 20:56.04 | ltsampros | I wouldn't worry about that, he gives a douglas adams notion in our discussion |
| 20:56.18 | colock | :D |
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| 20:57.56 | ltsampros | I'm thinking the unthinkable |
| 20:58.25 | ltsampros | modify /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1 to point to the correct libs |
| 20:59.45 | jelly-home | nooooooo |
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| 21:00.18 | ltsampros | jelly-home: after checking if these files belong to any package ? |
| 21:00.39 | jelly-home | ltsampros: does it not point to /etc/alternatives/glx--libGL.so.1-x86_64-linux-gnu ? |
| 21:00.47 | ltsampros | nope. |
| 21:00.53 | ltsampros | it's just a regular file :) |
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| 21:01.03 | jelly-home | ltsampros: install glx-diversions |
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| 21:01.56 | ltsampros | it's already there and update-alternatives --display glx seems to display everything correctly |
| 21:02.30 | jelly-home | reinstall it, then; it failed to do its job |
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| 21:03.16 | ltsampros | can't due to dependencies. should I just force it |
| 21:03.17 | ltsampros | ? |
| 21:04.07 | jelly-home | aptitude reinstall ... fails? |
| 21:04.25 | ltsampros | sorry I was trying dpkg --purge |
| 21:04.31 | jelly-home | that's not what I said |
| 21:05.32 | jelly-home | well, in any case, glx-alternatives 0.2.2 does the trick with /usr/lib/.../libGL.so.1 here |
| 21:06.04 | Shirakawasuna | ltsampros: no problem, hope everything works out :) |
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| 21:07.03 | Shirakawasuna | I heard that the 30x series now works wiht randr 1.4, which is pretty sweet |
| 21:07.17 | Shirakawasuna | proper desktop cloning and such without disper ftw |
| 21:08.14 | jelly-home | disper? |
| 21:08.49 | jelly-home | dunno what that is. but setting relative geometries of outputs with xrandr works |
| 21:09.13 | jelly-home | xrandr --output HDMI-0 --right-of DVI-I-1 --auto |
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| 21:10.02 | ltsampros | update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/lib/nvidia because link group glx is broken. |
| 21:10.37 | ltsampros | I got this one, but the files/links stil don't point to the nvidia ones |
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| 21:12.05 | jelly-home | ltsampros: after reinstalling glx-alternatives 0.2.2? |
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| 21:12.47 | jelly-home | ltsampros: is glx-alternative-nvidia installed? |
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| 21:13.26 | jelly-home | (it bloody well ought to be, since you have libgl1-nvidia-alternatives... but who knows |
| 21:13.45 | ltsampros | yeap. update-alternatives --display glx shows everything nice |
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| 21:14.16 | jelly-home | and yet /usr/lib/*/libGL.so.1 fails at being a symlink to /etc/alternatives/... |
| 21:14.25 | ltsampros | yes. |
| 21:14.50 | jelly-home | I have no idea what happened there |
| 21:15.33 | ltsampros | should I try removing those manually and reinstalling again ? |
| 21:16.13 | jelly-home | ltsampros: can you run sh -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/glx-diversions configure manually and pastebin the output (there might be quite a bit) |
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| 21:16.39 | jelly-home | erm. |
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| 21:16.49 | ltsampros | no such file btw |
| 21:16.49 | jelly-home | sh -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/glx-diversions.postinst configure |
| 21:16.52 | ltsampros | postinst ? |
| 21:16.53 | ltsampros | ok |
| 21:17.50 | ltsampros | ERROR: DPKG_MAINTSCRIPT_PACKAGE is not set, |
| 21:18.02 | jelly-home | meh |
| 21:18.22 | jelly-home | not even postinst script work like they used to! |
| 21:18.46 | jelly-home | ltsampros: what about a dpkg-reconfigure glx-diversions |
| 21:18.53 | jelly-home | we already did that didn't we |
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| 21:19.22 | ltsampros | just did that |
| 21:19.32 | ltsampros | although we didn't get the -x for extra info |
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| 21:21.00 | ltsampros | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/qyN7m5AJ |
| 21:21.08 | ltsampros | I'm genuinely more baffled now |
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| 21:21.53 | ltsampros | I think that I'll delete /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL* manually, and then force a reinstallation of glx-diversions etc |
| 21:23.10 | jelly-home | that might wipe the contents of libgl1-mesa-glx |
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| 21:23.16 | jelly-home | not that you care |
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| 21:23.36 | ltsampros | I think that's the problem |
| 21:24.03 | jelly-home | ltsampros: what's in /usr/lib/mesa-diverted/x86_64-linux-gnu/ directory? |
| 21:25.25 | ltsampros | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/yFxj1eQx |
| 21:25.37 | ltsampros | I don't think those files with dates 'Jun 23' should be there. |
| 21:26.05 | jelly-home | huh |
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| 21:27.08 | jelly-home | ltsampros: mv /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/mesa-diverted/x86_64-linux-gnu && rm /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so* |
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| 21:27.37 | ltsampros | you mean to .bak for the first mv right ? |
| 21:28.14 | jelly-home | ltsampros: no, there's no such file in /usr/lib/mesa-diverted/x86_64-linux-gnu (but it ought to have been diverted there) |
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| 21:29.10 | jelly-home | after that, symlink stuff from /etc/alternatives and the things ought to be in place |
| 21:29.20 | black_13 | is possible to install debian from and iso to to a second partion using an iso and a kickstart file? |
| 21:29.47 | ltsampros | jelly-home: shouldn't I just aptitude reinstall glx-diversions ? |
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| 21:30.23 | jelly-home | ltsampros: I thought you did and it didn't change things much |
| 21:31.05 | jelly-home | but seeing as it already thinks the files are diverted, normalizing the situation manually might be simpler |
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| 21:31.31 | ltsampros | I had a suspiciion that the diversion was failing due to those files |
| 21:31.36 | ltsampros | anyway |
| 21:31.47 | ltsampros | is there a way to force the diversion? |
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| 21:32.59 | jelly-home | you still have to move away the same files, then remove the diversions, then reinstate them |
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| 21:33.24 | jelly-home | why not just put the correct two symlinks in their place |
| 21:33.37 | ltsampros | ok. let me try |
| 21:33.48 | jelly-home | ln -s /etc/alternatives/glx--libGL.so.1-x86_64-linux-gnu /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1 |
| 21:34.08 | jelly-home | ln -s /etc/alternatives/glx--libGL.so-x86_64-linux-gnu /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so |
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| 21:34.57 | ltsampros | yeap |
| 21:35.02 | ltsampros | thanks btw |
| 21:35.12 | ltsampros | now the dreaded kdm restart |
| 21:35.27 | jelly-home | just run glxinfo |
| 21:35.48 | ltsampros | yeap :) |
| 21:35.50 | ltsampros | that was it |
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| 21:36.02 | ltsampros | everything was picking the wrong glx client libraries due to borked diversions |
| 21:36.10 | ltsampros | probably something I did on Jun 23 :P |
| 21:37.04 | jelly-home | might have happened if you did manual installations via dpkg while other packages were left incompletely installed, dunno |
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| 21:37.36 | ltsampros | yeah, I had some trouble in june with the nvidia driver |
| 21:37.47 | ltsampros | he claimed that he could not get the EDID information from my monitor |
| 21:38.11 | jelly-home | if you moved mesa's /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/lib/mesa-diverted/x86_64-linux-gnu/ the packaging system ought to be in consistent state |
| 21:38.18 | ltsampros | which after many hours of trial and error and back and forth between driver versions, boiled down to a bad DVI cable |
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| 21:38.27 | jelly-home | heh |
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| 21:41.54 | Tenchworks | question, i have a pair of usb harddrives that I want to be auto-mounted on reboot, if I have them listed in /etc/fstab will that be enough? |
| 21:44.27 | jelly-home | Tenchworks: if you listed their LABELs or UUIDs or /dev/disk/by-*id/ links so the order of disk detection does not matter, sure |
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| 21:47.50 | Tenchworks | so then I presume "/dev/sda1 /mnt/Renalice2 ntfs-3g defaults 0 0" doens't have it right? |
| 21:48.40 | Tenchworks | how would I get the UUID info? |
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| 21:49.35 | nsadmin | Tenchworks, you should find out whether ntfs has uuids |
| 21:49.48 | abrotman | what? |
| 21:49.52 | hellekin | any debian-specific sysadmin channel here, or can I shooy my questions here? |
| 21:49.53 | abrotman | Tenchworks: blkid |
| 21:50.08 | abrotman | hellekin: this is Debian-speicific, but not admin specific |
| 21:50.09 | jelly-home | hellekin: shooy awat |
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| 21:50.17 | hellekin | jelly-home: :) |
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| 21:50.35 | nsadmin | jelly-home, swahili? |
| 21:50.55 | hellekin | nsadmin: typohili |
| 21:50.56 | jelly-home | nsadmin: pass |
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| 21:52.19 | hellekin | all right, I'm installing a new server, and something happened that baffles me. Suddenly, I get 'file not found' errors for *all* commands. Tab completion still works, but nothing is executed, which makes it "very hard" to debug anything. Any hint? |
| 21:53.11 | abrotman | hellekin: echo $PATH |
| 21:53.22 | hellekin | abrotman: $PATH is fine |
| 21:53.45 | abrotman | hellekin: can you run busybox to have some functional shell ? |
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| 21:54.43 | hellekin | # /bin/bus<tab> -> /bin/busybox -> command not found |
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| 21:55.33 | jelly-home | abrotman: busybox linked against dynamic libc? Sure! |
| 21:55.45 | abrotman | he didn't say he'd killed his libc! |
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| 21:55.57 | jelly-home | what did you think happened |
| 21:56.09 | abrotman | gremlins |
| 21:56.27 | jelly-home | hellekin: it's gremlins. I have it on the highest authority. |
| 21:56.57 | Devastator | chroot and reinstall libc? |
| 21:57.16 | jelly-home | hellekin: was this after booting the installation, or before the first boot? |
| 21:57.22 | hellekin | jelly-home: might be wrong flags on FS, but I was careful and tried several times aptitude update / upgrade, installing stuff and everything was fine |
| 21:57.25 | hellekin | after booting |
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| 21:57.34 | hellekin | after rebooting on a new kernel even |
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| 21:57.39 | Tenchworks | alrighty then... so " blkid /dev/sda1 " doesn't error on me but doesn't return anything either when I use it, I'll take it that uuid's are only found on ext partitions |
| 21:57.49 | nsadmin | howbout on the original kernel |
| 21:57.55 | jelly-home | Tenchworks: just run "blkid" |
| 21:58.03 | hellekin | can you reboot without any commands in your path? |
| 21:58.08 | hellekin | :P |
| 21:58.24 | hellekin | I can only execute shell builtins |
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| 21:58.30 | Tenchworks | >.> should have tried sudo first |
| 21:58.45 | Tenchworks | comes up now thanks |
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| 21:59.31 | jelly-home | hellekin: are you sure the system will come back? echo b >> /proc/sysrq-trigger |
| 21:59.37 | hellekin | in last resort I could use magic-sysreq, but I'm over ssh, and now at least I have a root shell |
| 21:59.57 | mllie | I have postfix on one server to be able so send mail with PHP. When I try to send to my gmail it works, but to another mail that is hosted on a cloud service I get 554 Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. But actually it is there, because I can both send and receive mail from that account from my gmail. Any idea? Is it their mail server that is the failure? |
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| 22:00.16 | hellekin | if that was a partition full issue, I would expect a message saying so |
| 22:00.29 | jelly-home | hellekin: it's not |
| 22:01.11 | Zuarko | Does somebody know about a bug or something similar with realtek firmware in Wheezy? The installer keeps me asking for the firmware of a different hardware (from realtek, but another chipset) |
| 22:01.18 | hellekin | i'm rally baffled. Never seen that before |
| 22:01.23 | hellekin | really |
| 22:04.07 | Tenchworks | ok so now how do I use that data in fstab? do I replace the "/dev/sda1" at the start of the fstab entry with LABEL= or UUID= and then the relevent info for the drive? |
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| 22:04.44 | jelly-home | Tenchworks: yes, that's exactly what you want to do |
| 22:05.03 | Tenchworks | ok thanks, didn't see an example line in the man page so wanted to be sure |
| 22:05.24 | jelly-home | I think Debian defaults to using UUID= in fstab these days |
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| 22:07.59 | Tenchworks | er, the label/uuid info should be quotes correct or does that not matter? |
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| 22:08.29 | jelly-home | I don't have quotes |
| 22:08.41 | adrakoa | hi |
| 22:08.42 | Tenchworks | hehe ok |
| 22:08.46 | Tenchworks | once again Thank you |
| 22:09.03 | jelly-home | I guess you might need them if you used a label with spaces? |
| 22:09.11 | jelly-home | dunno whether that would work. |
| 22:09.35 | jelly-home | LABEL=80gb2 /media/80gb2 ntfs-3g defaults,user,noauto,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=022,locale=hr_HR.UTF-8 0 0 |
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| 22:11.11 | mllie | any ide? |
| 22:11.13 | mllie | idea |
| 22:11.35 | Tenchworks | well both of my labels have a space in the name, so I'll stick with the uuid and hope that if I mess with it later I can figure out which drive was which |
| 22:12.32 | hellekin | Tenchworks: ls -l /dev/disks/by-uuid/ |
| 22:12.37 | hellekin | disk singular |
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| 22:14.44 | Tenchworks | well I got it working i think, if "mount -a" remounted it with the new info/changes then yeah it's working |
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| 22:21.33 | hellekin | That's what I did to the filesystem. Apart from that, I don't see what could have broken. http://pastie.org/private/gocf7a94zfrwwj6irdmzaa |
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| 22:43.55 | jelly-home | hellekin: did you manage to somehow mount / or /usr noexec |
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| 22:46.11 | heoa | How can I have the git -contributions repo in Git? |
| 22:46.13 | heoa | https://github.com/git/git/tree/master/contrib |
| 22:46.13 | simonlnu | noexec for / or /usr ? o_O |
| 22:46.23 | heoa | I mean is it possible to get it from Apt-get? |
| 22:46.31 | heoa | or some other pkg -manager? |
| 22:47.34 | simonlnu | you want git? install it. it won't be the upstream source, it'll be packaged.... |
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| 22:50.23 | surial | Is there a force option for apt-get? There's a missing dependency and I know it'll be fine without it. |
| 22:51.18 | hellekin | jelly-home: that was my first thought too :) but no |
| 22:51.28 | surial | or rather, it's a NAS with apt-get (yay!), some deps already broken (boo!), probably because it's a big stack of downloads, the NAS has limited space, and it's not actually needed. Anyway, now apt-get won't auto-find deps, and I have another such scenario (printer support for installing a JVM. I'm not gonna use the print APIs). |
| 22:53.17 | abrotman | surial: you can force it, but it will continue to be an issue |
| 22:53.21 | abrotman | !tell surial about equivs |
| 22:53.27 | surial | Well, yup, but I'm already stuck there. |
| 22:53.43 | surial | oh, right, I set up dummy packages that say they provide a certain dep without actually doing so? |
| 22:54.02 | surial | didn't know it was that easy to set that up. Awesome. Thanks! |
| 22:54.08 | abrotman | good luck! |
| 22:54.23 | themill | surial: just remember that you get to keep both pieces when it breaks :) |
| 22:54.42 | abrotman | and the bricked NAS :) |
| 22:55.10 | surial | themill: Yeah, yeah. I know. Trying to turn a simple NAS into a PDC server and small webapp host while still doing its job of sharing large disks over SMB. Oh, and it runs the nightly backups and sends them to S3 buckets all by itself. A little ambitious. |
| 22:55.18 | abrotman | oh jeez |
| 22:55.23 | abrotman | runs away |
| 22:55.26 | surial | :) |
| 22:55.51 | surial | Awesome if it works, though. 100 bucks to replace something that normally costs that much in monthly maintainance alone. |
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| 22:56.29 | jelly-home | surial: hopefully that's a real debian installation, and not something the vendor hacked up and that will break the first time you try to put extra packages and they overwrite vendor's hacks |
| 22:56.36 | abrotman | it's not, he said so |
| 22:56.46 | jelly-home | oh |
| 22:56.49 | surial | jelly-home: Yeah, what you said. |
| 22:57.29 | surial | I've been apt-getting quite some stuff to it so far and that worke dfine, but now I'm shooting for wheezy/armel openjdk-7-jre-headless. |
| 22:57.34 | surial | Which has a dep list as long as my leg. |
| 22:58.06 | abrotman | runs faster |
| 22:58.33 | jelly-home | NO WARRANTY |
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| 22:59.09 | jelly-home | we get all the credit in case you DON'T brick the thing |
| 22:59.37 | black_13 | is it possible to install install from a mounted iso with a kickstart file? |
| 22:59.47 | abrotman | kickstart? |
| 23:00.15 | black_13 | what is the term for auto entries |
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| 23:01.04 | black_13 | preconfiguration files |
| 23:01.56 | jelly-home | !preseed |
| 23:01.56 | dpkg | [preseed] Preseeding provides a way to set answers to questions asked during the Debian installation process, to allow for a streamlined or completely automated installation. The <install guide> provides an extensive appendix on preseeding with a full example. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed and http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/394 . See also <debconf-set-selections>. |
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| 23:06.28 | erpadmin | would anyone w/ vncserver full desktop setup going on debian wheezy mind posting your xstartup file? |
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| 23:09.46 | epsilon | /usr/bin/gnome-session & |
| 23:09.48 | epsilon | or |
| 23:09.58 | epsilon | /usr/bin/startkde & |
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| 23:10.48 | epsilon | works at least for up to squeeze |
| 23:10.54 | erpadmin | epsilon, /usr/bin/startxfce4 & |
| 23:11.33 | epsilon | yea, any desktop (start binary) of your favour |
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| 23:17.36 | wlightning | is there a way to remove a LVM group from the debian install manual partitioner? |
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| 23:21.10 | nsadmin | wlightning, the reason such a goup would be present, is if it was already on the drive when you started the installer |
| 23:21.18 | wlightning | correct |
| 23:21.41 | nsadmin | so... does that group have lvs in it? |
| 23:21.53 | wlightning | it did originally... I did manage to remove them |
| 23:22.06 | wlightning | but it won't let me remove the group itself |
| 23:22.55 | nsadmin | are you sure you want to get rid of the (volume?) group? |
| 23:23.00 | wlightning | I would use guided, but in order to restart this process if I mess up, I need sda1 (the old /boot) to still be there |
| 23:23.13 | wlightning | and guided would demolish that |
| 23:24.14 | nsadmin | you understand that the volume group would always be associated with a pv? |
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| 23:25.34 | nsadmin | maybe you could remake the pv? |
| 23:27.11 | qw12 | nsadmin: hi |
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| 23:27.51 | nsadmin | (if you do that, it should remove all vgs that are associated with that pv... then again, there could be other pvs also associated with that vg) |
| 23:28.06 | nsadmin | qw12, hi :) |
| 23:28.16 | qw12 | nsadmin: in pm |
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| 23:29.05 | qw12 | anyone know how to set password permissions for various directories in apache ? say i have /var/www/temp1/dir1 and /var/www/temp1/dir1/subdir1 i want dir1 to have password protection, but not dir2 (and I don't want to use .htaccess but put in <Directory stuff |
| 23:29.06 | wlightning | nsadmin, oh... hey.. no idea why... but it just showed me the option now! =) |
| 23:29.22 | wlightning | and now that the VG is gone, I can reformat the drive =) |
| 23:29.30 | abrotman | qw12: sounds like more of a #httpd question |
| 23:29.55 | qw12 | i am unable to post in #httpd |
| 23:30.27 | qw12 | abrotman: can you tel me the answer if you know ? |
| 23:31.43 | tuv | in a Makefile, i have a bunch of macro pairs, where in each pair (A1, A2), the first macro requires the second: $(A1): $(A2) |
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| 23:32.05 | nsadmin | wlightning, so you formatted the pv? |
| 23:32.10 | tuv | any idea how to express this in a compact way that does not involve listing them all? |
| 23:32.56 | abrotman | qw12: you have to register |
| 23:33.11 | ManoftheSea | abrotman: you support IRC, now? |
| 23:33.18 | tuv | dumb solution: $(A1): $(A2); $(B1): $(B2); $(C1): $(C2) ... |
| 23:33.19 | abrotman | ? |
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| 23:34.22 | wlightning | nsadmin, deleted it yeah =) |
| 23:34.27 | tuv | where can one ask about Makefiles? |
| 23:34.43 | nsadmin | tuv, those are what rules are... for example there are "built in" rules to go from .c to .o, then from .o to an executable |
| 23:35.39 | tuv | nsadmin: these are macros (variables) that represent arbitrary paths. can't express them using .c or .o or similar patterns |
| 23:35.42 | nsadmin | wlightning, cool :) did you want lvm at all? |
| 23:38.09 | abrotman | tuv: #gcc perhaps |
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| 23:40.03 | wlightning | nsadmin, yeah, wanted a different group name, and needed to resize the physical volume too |
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| 23:41.42 | themill | tuv: sounds like you'll be writing these pairs out to a file and including that in your main makefile. There's also ##workingset |
| 23:42.20 | wlightning | nsadmin, the other part that makes me nervous is I'm doing this all over IPMI Serial over LAN console |
| 23:43.05 | wlightning | hopefully the serial params I passed to the installer will also get added to the final grub conf =) |
| 23:43.41 | nsadmin | wlightning, hmm, I'd be nervous too... |
| 23:43.56 | nsadmin | but, the installer booted? |
| 23:44.26 | wlightning | yeah.. I put the initrd and linux kernel file in the old /boot and added it to grub |
| 23:44.33 | wlightning | with params telling it to use serial |
| 23:44.41 | wlightning | the installer initrd that is |
| 23:47.54 | nsadmin | ok, and the end result is you connect to (what,) the IP of the serial console, it boots and you get the installer? |
| 23:48.35 | wlightning | yeah.. because the installer is talking to ttyS0 |
| 23:48.42 | tuv | themill: what makes it hard to accept is that the body of the rule is identical for all pairs |
| 23:48.47 | wlightning | which the Baseboard Management Controller listens to |
| 23:48.49 | nsadmin | got it, which is a typical serial port |
| 23:48.53 | wlightning | yeah |
| 23:49.04 | wlightning | and the BMC lets me connect to it over the network |
| 23:49.14 | tuv | themill: it may be doable using functions, but i think a verbose long list is more readable |
| 23:49.21 | nsadmin | ok, so if all that's working, and you can format the drive the way you want, you're... good? |
| 23:49.41 | nsadmin | just checking :) |
| 23:49.46 | wlightning | well... I'd really like to get to a shell prompt before I restart after the install's finished |
| 23:49.50 | wlightning | is that possible? |
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| 23:50.16 | nsadmin | well if you do it say before installing grub |
| 23:50.34 | nsadmin | would that work? |
| 23:50.38 | wlightning | that'd be fine |
| 23:50.52 | nsadmin | what did you want to do at the end? |
| 23:51.06 | wlightning | well I want to make sure Grub knows not to use graphical |
| 23:51.22 | wlightning | so maybe it wouldn't work =( |
| 23:51.25 | wlightning | damnit |
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| 23:51.44 | nsadmin | what release are you installing? |
| 23:51.54 | wlightning | lenny |
| 23:52.21 | nsadmin | lenny, why not squeeze? |
| 23:52.41 | wlightning | err |
| 23:52.42 | wlightning | squeeze |
| 23:52.46 | wlightning | whatever is stable |
| 23:52.52 | wlightning | lemme double check |
| 23:52.59 | nsadmin | that's what's stable :) |
| 23:53.09 | wlightning | http://cdn.debian.net/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/amd64/ |
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| 23:53.22 | wlightning | that's where I got the initrd and stuff for the installer =) |
| 23:53.42 | nsadmin | that should be squeeze |
| 23:54.19 | nsadmin | have you worked with these guys who run this vm provider? |
| 23:54.41 | wlightning | it's a physical box =) I actually own it.. but yeah |
| 23:55.13 | wlightning | I'm actually working towards installing it as a Dom0 =) |
| 23:55.19 | nsadmin | oh, so you're actually colocating, and the box you own has the serial console thingy |
| 23:55.27 | wlightning | yeah pretty much |
| 23:55.42 | wlightning | the guy at the DC can work on it... just is a 2 hr drive to get to it |
| 23:55.54 | wlightning | so... absolute worst case I can have him work on it =) |
| 23:56.27 | nsadmin | you can do that by installing the xen kernel (probably of the same version that comes with squeeze, 2.6.32) |
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| 23:56.54 | nsadmin | so it's that you don't want it to do a frame buffer? |
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| 23:56.58 | rawburt | http://pastebin.com/sJYi4aVx |
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| 23:57.16 | rawburt | what's wrong with that except slow updates? does it not prepare me for the future? |
| 23:57.19 | themill | tuv: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10612859/makefile-for-input-output-pairs looks promising for you |
| 23:58.14 | themill | rawburt: wheezy-updates and wheezy-backports will be 404 for a few months. wheezy/updates will be essentially empty for a few months. |
| 23:58.25 | Helldesk | is it possible to tell apt to upgrade all packages BUT those it can't authenticate? I'm running apt-get upgrade on my Raspberry Pi and it seems there's one package (a qt5 snapshot thingie I don't need) it warns it can't authenticate and when I refuse to install that, the whole process is stopped |
| 23:58.36 | Helldesk | debian wheezy, by the way (arm) |
| 23:58.57 | tuv | themill: Thanks! will check it out |
| 23:59.30 | nsadmin | wlightning, the question of grub-in-graphics-mode, I dunno how grub would do that |
| 23:59.34 | themill | Helldesk: alternatively just get rid of that package you don't want? (or place it on hold so it doesn't upgrade) |
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| 23:59.46 | rawburt | themill: when they become available my aptitude will begin to use them? |
