| 00:00.00 | Gargantua | Warning: no translation found for 'en_CA' locale: /usr/share/locale/qtractor_en_CA.qm |
| 00:00.05 | ManoftheSea | my runlevel is "graphical.target" |
| 00:00.09 | Gargantua | I'm sick of seeing this everywhere, how can I change the locale to the default? |
| 00:00.38 | nsadmin | looks like en_CA might be the default? |
| 00:01.01 | nsadmin | maybe that locale is not installed? |
| 00:01.19 | Gargantua | I just want en_US or whatever is most compatible. |
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| 00:01.47 | gasull | nsadmin: not that I know of |
| 00:02.07 | nsadmin | Gargantua, ok, you could try dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 00:02.40 | Gargantua | that works, thanks |
| 00:03.08 | nsadmin | gasull, hmm... too bad. I was thinking you could... get the debianized sources, apply this patch, rebuild the package, install it |
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| 00:03.34 | letsgetwet20 | I'm trying to use curlftpfs to mount an ftp directory to my computer. It complains that permission is denied from /dev/fuse but I have added root and regular user to the group fuse. What else can I do? Also, I restarted the fuse daemon. |
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| 00:04.43 | gasull | my question is, what happens if I install 1.10 with dpkg -i? Will it ever be upgraded or will it stay in 1.10 forever? |
| 00:05.06 | adrakoa | hi |
| 00:05.31 | gasull | what will happen with libcairo2 next time I run aptitude full-upgrade if I've downgraded it? |
| 00:05.43 | nsadmin | letsgetwet20, normally mount is root-only. if you would want to always mount that particular curlftpfs to one specific place, you can add an entry in /etc/fstab, add "user,noauto" to the options (you don't want it mounted on boot, right?) and then your user can mount it |
| 00:06.02 | nsadmin | gasull, it would upgrade it most likely |
| 00:06.39 | nsadmin | probably to an even later version |
| 00:07.14 | gasull | nsadmin: will it try to upgrade it back to 1.12? |
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| 00:07.55 | nsadmin | you mean if you upgrade to a different debian release (like squeeze -> wheezy)? |
| 00:08.31 | nsadmin | it would upgrade it back to 1.12 if you don't change sounces.list |
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| 00:08.51 | nsadmin | unless you put it on "hold" |
| 00:09.51 | nsadmin | what's the package name again? |
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| 00:10.08 | nsadmin | , v |
| 00:10.09 | judd | (versions <pattern> [--arch <i386>] [--release <stable>]) -- Show the available versions of a package in the optionally specified release and for the given architecture. All current releases and i386 are searched by default. By default, binary packages are searched; prefix the packagename with "src:" to search source packages. |
| 00:10.10 | gasull | nsadmin: libcairo2 |
| 00:10.47 | JoeHazzers | you can do that? o.o |
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| 00:11.14 | nsadmin | , v libcairo2 |
| 00:11.16 | judd | Package: libcairo2 on i386 -- lenny: 1.6.4-7; lenny-backports: 1.8.8-2~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1.8.10-6; squeeze-backports: 1.10.2-7~bpo60+1; sid: 1.12.2-2; wheezy: 1.12.2-2 |
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| 00:13.43 | Gargantua | /usr/bin/locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 00:13.47 | Gargantua | /usr/bin/locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 00:13.50 | Gargantua | /usr/bin/locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 00:13.52 | Gargantua | :/ |
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| 00:20.42 | gasull | nsadmin: thanks, I just added the backports repo |
| 00:20.52 | gasull | I'll be installing it now |
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| 00:21.42 | nsadmin | wait, what release are you running? |
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| 00:45.09 | gotmynick | On a atom machine (dualcore eeepc), what should perform better for desktop (that is, fluxbox, xterm and firefox) usage ? |
| 00:45.16 | gotmynick | i386 or amd64 ? |
| 00:45.31 | gotmynick | amd64 should have better compilation options for this machine |
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| 00:45.37 | gotmynick | but it just has 1G ram |
| 00:46.32 | gotmynick | as far as I know, for example perl uses a lot more ram in amd64 than in i386 |
| 00:46.57 | gotmynick | I've never benchmarked this... |
| 00:47.06 | dvs | if it has 1G of RAM and won't be expanded, then I'd say with i386 |
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| 00:48.06 | gotmynick | I don't know how many much "compilation options" should be noticeable |
| 00:48.16 | gotmynick | I've never run without ram for the usage I do |
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| 00:50.18 | arthurmaciel | guys, I tried adding sshd at boot time using update-rc.d ssh enable 3. It ran successfuly, but sshd effectively starts when I log in with my user on gdm. |
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| 00:50.43 | arthurmaciel | I want sshd to start at command line startup. How could I make it? |
| 00:50.53 | gotmynick | arthurmaciel, it should do by default |
| 00:51.07 | gotmynick | what other things did you changed previously ? |
| 00:51.28 | LtL | arthurmaciel: update-rc.d ssh defaults <enter> |
| 00:51.55 | gotmynick | apt-get install openssh-server # should start by default, nothing to do with gdm |
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| 00:56.12 | LtL | iirc sshd doesn't answer until you login to the desktop, tried it. squeeze/Gnome .. i could be wrong. |
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| 01:01.51 | arthurmaciel | LtL: that's it. I don't know how to change this behaviour. I have already tried the step you suggested. |
| 01:02.58 | LtL | arthurmaciel: runlevels aren't like the old days with sysV, maybe someone knows... keep asking. |
| 01:03.20 | arthurmaciel | ok :-/ |
| 01:03.26 | arthurmaciel | thanks anyway! |
| 01:03.36 | LtL | servers obviously do it so it must be possible |
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| 01:17.17 | arthurmaciel | see you! |
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| 01:25.30 | mmnicolas | sshd does not wait for any login to start, is starts on boot and that's it |
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| 01:29.45 | LtL | mmnicolas:you're right, you dont have to be logged in |
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| 01:30.15 | mmnicolas | he must have seriously messed up something |
| 01:30.18 | adrakoa | gi |
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| 01:30.32 | LtL | mmnicolas: i just tried, i could have sworn months ago it wouldnt but my laptop is at the login prompt but does answer ssh. |
| 01:31.33 | mmnicolas | yea, otherwise it wouldn't make sense, what if you don't have any display manager installed |
| 01:31.41 | LtL | i still miss the days i could set /etc/inittab to runlevel 3 and startx when i fellt like it :) |
| 01:32.54 | mmnicolas | LtL: you can still do that, just update-rc.d --remove your display manager, I personnally don't use a display manager at all |
| 01:33.18 | LtL | mmnicolas: i was thinking a server or headless box set it up differently.. bad logic apparently. |
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| 01:33.57 | LtL | mmnicolas: and i can still fire up gnome right? |
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| 01:34.44 | mjessome | 'apt-get install firmware-b43-installer' is giving me errors about incompatibilites (which aren't actually incompatible) and Aborting install. Is there any way to force the installation to continue? |
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| 01:35.21 | LtL | mmnicolas: i.e. update-rc.d remove just disables gnome from starting but doesn't actually 'remove' it correct? |
| 01:35.24 | jpinx | mjessome: aptitude might make a better fist of it |
| 01:35.28 | F4C3 | I need to clone a 1TB drive as fast as possible. would it be best to use dd to copy the mbr and partition table, and then rsync the partitions? |
| 01:35.33 | F4C3 | or just dd all the way through? |
| 01:35.53 | mmnicolas | yea, I use inittab to auto-login in vt1, then some script from ~/.profile takes care of starting X, then auto-lock the session |
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| 01:36.15 | nsadmin | mjessome pls pastebin full output |
| 01:36.25 | LtL | mmnicolas: ok, appreciate that. |
| 01:36.56 | mmnicolas | LtL: this way, when I unlock the session, everything is ready |
| 01:37.14 | jpinx | F4C3: iirc dd will be slower than copying the structure and rsync-ing |
| 01:37.41 | F4C3 | jpinx, okay thanks. wish me luck |
| 01:37.47 | F4C3 | gonna need it |
| 01:38.02 | jpinx | because dd reads everything at alow level, rsync only reads/copies actual data |
| 01:38.26 | F4C3 | yeah, the drive isnt even 15% full, so it'd be a waste of time right? |
| 01:38.37 | mmnicolas | F4C3: I have an awesome trick for you, hold on a minute |
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| 01:40.29 | mmnicolas | fill in the free space with zeroes, cat /dev/zero > /mnt/source/zeroes.txt ; sync ; rm /mnt/zeroes.txt ; umount /mnt/source |
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| 01:41.01 | mmnicolas | then gzip < /dev/sdb1 > /mnt/target/sdb1.raw.gz |
| 01:41.26 | jpinx | mmnicolas: filling 1Tb with zeroes is going to be slow.... |
| 01:41.32 | F4C3 | ah cool trick. unfortunately im doing a whole disk to disk clone from a live environment |
| 01:41.40 | F4C3 | so, not really a backup issue/scenario |
| 01:41.48 | mmnicolas | jpinx: yea.. but still less than just dd'ing |
| 01:42.04 | jpinx | mmnicolas: which is why I said us ersync |
| 01:42.50 | jpinx | F4C3: rsync -PHAXphax seems to work well for me in making clones |
| 01:43.06 | jpinx | add a -v if you want to watch ;) |
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| 01:44.10 | F4C3 | okay, sounds good. getting a bit nervous, live server, gotta keep downtime to a minimum |
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| 01:45.41 | mmnicolas | rsync options always look funny, I've sticked to -arvn until now but I'll remember that PHAXphax :P |
| 01:45.41 | jpinx | F4C3: rsync-ing will not make any downtime |
| 01:46.28 | F4C3 | yeah, ive got a habit of rsync -avz myself |
| 01:46.30 | jpinx | mmnicolas: yea - easy to remember that one - I got it from someone in here a while ago ;) |
| 01:47.19 | jpinx | F4C3: if your live drivee is the one you are copying - there should be zero downtime during the cloning process - but watch your bandwidth ;) |
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| 01:48.02 | jpinx | F4C3: your only down time will be after you have finished testing the clone and you want to do the physical swap |
| 01:48.16 | F4C3 | actually, ive got the DC taking down the box, putting in new drive, boot into liveCD environment. Then i was going to dd the mbr and partition table (do i need to make the partitions on the new drive first?), then mount and rsync /boot and /home |
| 01:48.17 | nsadmin | dd for partitions or other storage vols have certain constraints that have to be followed... it's copying the whole filesystem, not individual files, the latter of which might be preferable |
| 01:48.49 | jpinx | nsadmin: hencve we're talking rsync |
| 01:49.15 | nsadmin | tar could work too |
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| 01:49.37 | jpinx | F4C3: why take the box offline? can you not plug the new drive into it and do the cloning? |
| 01:49.49 | mjessome | jpinx: same deal, and same when trying to manually install the deb using dpkg |
| 01:49.54 | mjessome | nsadmin: http://pastebin.com/Ckr2s4b0 |
| 01:50.27 | F4C3 | i initially had the request that way as i was going to do dd on the whole drive, and having a live filesystem would have been risky |
| 01:50.43 | F4C3 | and you know how DC's are with requests, dont want to mess up the script ive already sent them, so this is my path |
| 01:50.56 | jpinx | k |
| 01:50.59 | mjessome | uname tells me I'm on 3.2.0-3-amd64 and have bcm4331 which is supported by b43 in that kernel version, so that should not be an incompatibility issue. |
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| 01:53.34 | jpinx | F4C3: dd-ing a live system would not be good due to any changes during the dd-ing, but you can rsync, test the clone, take the box offline rsync again to catch any last minute changes, swap the drives |
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| 01:55.16 | nsadmin | mjessome so it aborted the firmware install because it found an incompatible device |
| 01:56.22 | jpinx | F4C3: add copyng the mbr in that sequence - probably the first thing to do |
| 01:56.51 | F4C3 | yeah, i think "dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1" will get the job done |
| 01:57.00 | F4C3 | that should do mbr and partition table |
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| 01:57.14 | F4C3 | if i copy the partition table, that way, do i need to make the partitions manually before the dd? |
| 01:57.28 | mjessome | nsadmin: yes, but that device is *not* incompatible. as we can see from that ID at http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 and the fact that I am on 3.2.0-3 |
| 01:57.37 | jpinx | F4C3: I would certainly check them |
| 01:59.12 | nsadmin | mjessome, maybe you can pull the package apart by hand, and place the firmware where the package would have and try it again |
| 01:59.45 | mjessome | probably my only option, unfortunately. Thanks nsadmin |
| 02:01.27 | nsadmin | do you know how to do all that? |
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| 02:03.43 | mjessome | nsadmin: I'm just looking at a guide on extracting deb files. I've manually installed the dependencies for the package, and I've noticed we have a control.t.gz and a data.t.gz so I'm lookin into those now |
| 02:04.37 | nsadmin | the data.tar.gz has the stuff, I'd suggest make a dir, put all the stuff in there, then extract the data |
| 02:05.23 | mjessome | all it contains is docs :S |
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| 02:06.16 | nsadmin | hmm. lots of times, these packages are firmware downloaders instead of having the firmware |
| 02:06.55 | mjessome | yep, you're right. I think I can just change the incompatibility check in the install script and then run that manually |
| 02:07.19 | nsadmin | so then, the control.tar.gz will have the scripts that probably do the download |
| 02:07.58 | mjessome | excellent, I'l give it a try! thanks for the help |
| 02:10.37 | mjessome | alright, time for a reboot and fingers crossed! |
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| 02:14.24 | mjessome | \o/ it worked. Thanks nsadmin |
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| 02:27.37 | F4C3 | alright, so let me know if you think im missing any steps: dd to clone MBR and partition table, mk2fs all partitions on new drive, mount and rsync all non-swap partitions |
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| 02:29.43 | rgenito | hey guys, i get this puzzling output when trying to install kernel 3.2 : |
| 02:30.23 | rgenito | http://pastie.org/4583895 |
| 02:30.43 | rgenito | any ideas? |
| 02:32.01 | ManoftheSea | F4C3: what's your goal? |
| 02:32.30 | rgenito | heh |
| 02:32.41 | F4C3 | gotta clone a 1TB sda to a new drive as quickly as possible, getting SMART errors from it, still readable, but want to knock it out |
| 02:32.50 | ManoftheSea | rgenito: I think you just want "linux-image-3.2" |
| 02:32.52 | rgenito | F4C3: dd isn't working? |
| 02:32.59 | F4C3 | dd would take way too long |
| 02:33.02 | ManoftheSea | I'd suggest looking in aptitude, it's a little nicer. |
| 02:33.09 | F4C3 | so i was going to dd just the mbr and maybe /boot as well |
| 02:33.11 | ManoftheSea | F4C3: ddrescue? |
| 02:33.16 | ManoftheSea | or dd-rescue |
| 02:33.21 | ManoftheSea | I forget which is the good one. |
| 02:33.26 | rgenito | F4C3: well, dont you want to "clone" the 1TB drive? |
| 02:33.41 | rgenito | specify a block size that will make it work faster =X |
| 02:33.45 | F4C3 | the problem with dd, ddrescue, and dd_rescue is that it would take forever as it has to write the full 1TB, even the unused portions |
| 02:34.04 | F4C3 | it's a production box, so i need to keep downtime to a minimum |
| 02:34.09 | rgenito | ManoftheSea: i tried apt-get linux-image-3.2 ... source not found. |
| 02:34.13 | F4C3 | you think a good block size dd would complete in less than 5 hours? |
| 02:34.38 | rgenito | ManoftheSea: in fact, apt-cache search shows me no 3.2 images :( |
| 02:34.40 | F4C3 | rgenito, apt-cache search show it listed? |
| 02:34.44 | F4C3 | bah |
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| 02:34.55 | rgenito | ahh, now i can just google which source i need :) should be that simple hehe |
| 02:35.28 | F4C3 | ive read horror stories of dd going 12+ hours for large disks |
| 02:35.38 | F4C3 | i cant be in that situation, box needs to be up by sunrise eastern |
| 02:36.37 | ManoftheSea | F4C3: hmm, I thought ddrescue had some intelligence to get as much real data as possible. |
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| 02:37.11 | rgenito | F4C3: seriously? i cloned a 3TB hard drive just the other day with dd. i did that while i slept ... so about 8 hours ;) |
| 02:37.15 | ManoftheSea | Then, yeah, clone the partition table, make the fs, and rsync it over. |
| 02:37.20 | ManoftheSea | That sounds sensible. |
| 02:37.31 | rgenito | F4C3: unfortunately, cloning 1 TB is going to take time. there's no faster way to do it. |
| 02:38.00 | F4C3 | sucks when you get stuck with one of those nerve racking jobs |
| 02:38.10 | F4C3 | gotta do what you gotta do right |
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| 02:41.29 | rgenito | F4C3: apt-cache search doesn't show 3.2 kernel :( |
| 02:41.45 | rgenito | i cannot figure out which source to get the kernel from |
| 02:42.43 | F4C3 | rgenito, have the time to build it from source? |
| 02:43.28 | rgenito | actually, turns out i didn't have a certain source in there... no "backports" |
| 02:44.02 | F4C3 | right on |
| 02:44.53 | ManoftheSea | heh, that would help. |
| 02:45.04 | ManoftheSea | Particularly when you ask for it from backports. lawl |
| 02:45.32 | F4C3 | man, this whole situation im in could have been avoided with raid. but when you're given 2 drives and your options are local uncompressed backups or raid, i went with local backup disk |
| 02:46.38 | ManoftheSea | raid isn't backup, so good choice. |
| 02:46.58 | nsadmin | F4C3, raid isn't the easiest thing to set up or configure, especially fake/nonhardware raid |
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| 02:49.24 | F4C3 | word. if shit hits the fan tonight, i can just ask for an os reload from the dc, and bring over the backups. but if a raid array degrades to a point beyond repair, gotta dig out all the remote backups, transfer across the net, then restore |
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| 02:54.41 | rgenito | yay i have kernel 3.2 :) |
| 02:55.01 | rgenito | btw, is there anyway in kernel 3.2 to modprobe for new usb devices? |
| 02:55.21 | rgenito | i have a usb device that i really want to be found... i have these usb devices working on ANOTHER machine with debian squeeze (w/ kernel 3.2) |
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| 02:55.33 | rgenito | but all i remember is that i need debian squeeze w/ kernel 3.2 in order to get these devices to work |
| 02:56.37 | nsadmin | just plug the device in. I'd watch the log to see what happens |
| 02:57.02 | ManoftheSea | rgenito: does lsusb show a device? |
| 02:57.20 | rgenito | ah one sec, i'm rebooting the machine |
| 02:57.35 | nsadmin | you sdon't need to do tha |
| 02:57.36 | jpinx | rgenito: tali -f /var/log/syslog and plug it in |
| 02:57.44 | jpinx | ...tail -f |
| 02:57.46 | Sakara | I've just cloned a debian VM. It now has a new mac address for the network card. I want to get eth1 to be eth0. How do I get this to happen? |
| 02:57.49 | rgenito | hmm, not sure if lsusb shows it... it might |
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| 02:58.21 | nsadmin | linux/unix is designed to minimize rebooting, unlike windows which needs a reboot when you move the mouse |
| 02:59.29 | jpinx | half the fun of linux is fixing stuff without rebooting ;) |
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| 03:00.38 | peterrooney | jpinx: the other half is not having to fix stuff often |
| 03:01.47 | rgenito | strange, my system is running super slow now |
| 03:02.04 | rgenito | but the devices were discovered |
| 03:02.12 | rgenito | or at least they were listed in /var/log/syslog |
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| 03:04.16 | rgenito | strange, "modprobe" ended up gutting up my CPU time....had to reboot |
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| 03:07.39 | ManoftheSea | Sakara: look at the file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
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| 03:07.52 | ManoftheSea | That file associates MAC and ethX name |
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| 03:13.26 | reet_teer | hello #debian |
| 03:13.59 | reet_teer | I have a question about make |
| 03:14.01 | reet_teer | I'm getting a VersionConflict error when attempting a 'make', and the package that is supposedly out of date reports it is the latest version (Cython) |
| 03:14.35 | reet_teer | Does anyone know what could be going on? |
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| 03:15.09 | nsadmin | try fakeroot debian/rules clean |
| 03:15.23 | nsadmin | fakeroot debian/rules build |
| 03:15.28 | nsadmin | fakeroot debian/rules binary |
| 03:15.53 | nsadmin | apparantly there is a build system surrounding the make system |
| 03:17.04 | rgenito | anyone here have a BFL Bitforce Single? |
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| 03:28.08 | rue_livingrm | there is a setting that enables a mcahine to register its name with the dns server when it gets its dhcp address, anyone know what/where it is? |
| 03:28.10 | peterrooney | loves the network-manager flamewar going on in the debian-devel list |
| 03:28.29 | peterrooney | rue_livingrm: dhcp client can request a hostname |
| 03:28.57 | rue_livingrm | no, this is the one that takes host... |
| 03:29.02 | rue_livingrm | oh I remmeber more |
| 03:29.20 | rue_livingrm | it dosn't use hostname, you have to configure someting to send a string with the machine name to register |
| 03:29.46 | ManoftheSea | /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf? |
| 03:30.05 | ManoftheSea | send host-name "name" |
| 03:30.10 | peterrooney | rue_livingrm: right, send "host-name" or something. |
| 03:30.13 | rue_livingrm | that file dosn't exist |
| 03:30.15 | rue_livingrm | but that sounds right |
| 03:31.09 | peterrooney | ,file /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf |
| 03:31.14 | judd | Search for /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf in squeeze/i386: isc-dhcp-client: etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf |
| 03:31.49 | mmnicolas | rue_livingrm: mdns ? avahi ? |
| 03:31.53 | peterrooney | ManoftheSea: clearly, I don't spend enough time on dhcp |
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| 03:33.56 | rue_livingrm | I have to find a machine I'v modified |
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| 03:34.48 | rue_livingrm | dhcp3/dhclient.conf:send host-name "stokes"; |
| 03:34.50 | rue_livingrm | huh |
| 03:35.00 | rue_livingrm | so I just create a dhcleint.conf? |
| 03:35.19 | magyar | hi, which gui do I user for kvm in wheezy? |
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| 03:35.57 | rue_livingrm | send host-name = gethostname(); |
| 03:35.58 | rue_livingrm | hmmm |
| 03:37.46 | rue_livingrm | testing does it |
| 03:37.53 | rue_livingrm | huh |
| 03:37.54 | rue_livingrm | thanks |
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| 03:40.24 | magyar | i've tried using aqemu but it seems to crash the system all together |
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| 03:49.38 | Zer000 | So i wanted to install gnome-terminal and I get this: W: Failed to fetch http://mirror.mycre.ws/debian/pool/main/v/vte3/libvte-2.90-common_0.32.2-1_all.deb |
| 03:49.38 | Zer000 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:52.28 | jpinx | Zer000: try a different mirror ? |
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| 03:53.03 | Zer000 | jpinx, is there a list of mirrors somewhere? and how do I change my system to use them? |
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| 03:54.22 | LtL | !mirrors |
| 03:54.22 | dpkg | Debian mirror sites are listed at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list and ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt and http://deb.li/map ; ask me about <apt-spy>, <netselect-apt>, <http.debian.net>, <geo sources.list> and <debian mirror checker>. To make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ ; see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <mirror size>. #debian-mirrors on irc.oftc.net. |
| 03:55.34 | LtL | Zer000: thats for you, you use them in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 03:55.54 | Zer000 | sweet thanks |
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| 03:57.52 | LtL | Zer000: don't forget to apt-get update |
| 03:58.47 | Zer000 | yup |
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| 03:59.00 | magyar | what does os-prober suppose to perform? |
| 03:59.24 | LtL | magyar: it looks for windows or other OS's |
| 03:59.39 | magyar | i'm running the command but my grub is not presenting the second OS |
| 04:00.06 | ManoftheSea | magyar: grub runs os-prober itself, as part of update-grub |
| 04:00.19 | ManoftheSea | Make sure you have os-prober installed, then "grub-mkconfig | less" |
| 04:00.25 | ManoftheSea | Look for the other os entry. |
| 04:00.38 | ManoftheSea | Save it with "grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg" |
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| 04:02.44 | magyar | ManoftheSea: bingo, I kept running os-prober hopping it will do the needed configurations.....bahh |
| 04:03.01 | ManoftheSea | so you're good? |
| 04:03.03 | magyar | thanks ManoftheSea |
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| 04:03.21 | magyar | sure I am now |
| 04:03.25 | Sakara | ManoftheSea, Thanks for letting my know about that udev file. I managed it |
| 04:03.34 | ManoftheSea | Sakara: no problem. |
| 04:03.46 | ManoftheSea | abrotman: on topic posting. |
| 04:04.45 | magyar | now if I only could get kvm working the way virtualbox works, I would be the happiest sheep on the planet -_- |
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| 04:09.20 | Sakara | my linux machines get DHCP addresses. is there a way that I can have their hostnames get resolved by other linux machine? |
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| 04:10.06 | Mechdave | only if you add the ip address and host name to /etc/hosts |
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| 04:10.36 | Sakara | but they will get a random ip address from the range. I don't want to manually track that across the machines |
| 04:10.44 | Sakara | I've got some 30 machines to look after |
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| 04:12.35 | Sakara | I do have it working for a freebsd machine which is odd |
| 04:12.36 | ManoftheSea | Sakara: yes, you can get dhcp to report to dns server |
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| 04:12.53 | peterrooney | Sakara: IIRC, you can tell your dhcp server to assign IPs based on MAC address |
| 04:13.16 | Sakara | in the leases list I see all the machines but 3 of them have hostnames missing |
| 04:13.27 | Sakara | its the 3 new debian machines I just put up |
| 04:13.32 | ManoftheSea | Sakara: this seems relevent: http://nixcraft.com/shell-scripting/45-how-update-dns-through-dhcp-automatically.html |
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| 04:14.25 | Sakara | my dns/dhcp server is configured correctly, a freebsb machine and an ubuntu box both have entries in the dns server from dhcp leases |
| 04:14.35 | Sakara | its only the debian boxes have now hostname listed against the leave |
| 04:14.37 | Sakara | lease* |
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| 04:16.08 | LtL | Sakara: in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf un-comment and edit this line: #send host-name "andare.fugue.com"; |
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| 04:16.40 | LtL | Sakara: the hostname alone will do. |
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| 04:20.40 | Sakara | LtL, certainly looks promising thanks! |
| 04:21.04 | LtL | Sakara: debian boxes seem to lack that entry |
| 04:21.35 | Sakara | Wonder why? Security? |
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| 04:22.07 | LtL | Sakara: good question, it does have certain advantages. |
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| 04:23.05 | LtL | Sakara: I think the devs just expect the admin to edit to suit their needs. |
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| 04:23.40 | Sakara | LtL, It should be populated out of the box. How often does anyone set it to anything other than the hostname? |
| 04:23.43 | wavedigit | hi, I'm having trouble decrypting my GPG encrypted text |
| 04:23.48 | wavedigit | first, I encrypted it using a key, which I exported (.asc format) to a USB stick |
| 04:23.57 | wavedigit | then, on a different machine I imported that .asc key and tried decrypting with gedit, but it said that I didn't have the decryption key |
| 04:24.45 | wavedigit | I'm using gnome's passwords and encryption keys |
| 04:25.30 | wavedigit | am I doing this wrong? |
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| 04:27.55 | ManoftheSea | wavedigit: by default, gpg only exports the public half |
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| 04:28.47 | wavedigit | ManoftheSea: oh, so I can only encrypt using the .asc key I exported? |
| 04:29.00 | wavedigit | how can I export the other half then? |
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| 04:29.47 | ManoftheSea | --export-secret-keys |
| 04:29.53 | ManoftheSea | the manpage is your friend. |
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| 04:32.38 | wavedigit | ManoftheSea: thanks, but the manpage doesn't say anything about gnome's password and encryption keys app |
| 04:32.43 | LtL | wavedigit: the .asc file is just a signature |
| 04:33.18 | LtL | wavedigit: if it was encrypted it would be a *.gpg file |
| 04:33.42 | ManoftheSea | LtL: it could also be an ascii-armored key, no? |
| 04:34.03 | wavedigit | LtL: it's basically garbled text starting with ---- bla bla begin gpg stuff ---- |
| 04:34.06 | ManoftheSea | wavedigit: I'm sorry, I thought you were using gpg at the command line. |
| 04:34.16 | LtL | wavedigit: i think thats the same thing isn't it |
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| 04:35.17 | ManoftheSea | wavedigit: "public key block"? |
| 04:35.27 | ManoftheSea | yeah, seahorse doesn't seem to export private keys. |
| 04:35.31 | LtL | wavedigit: i use gpg all the time on the command line, first thing is generate a keypair. gnomes tool really sucks |
| 04:35.44 | ManoftheSea | But... in general, moving the private key is the wrong thing to do. |
| 04:35.50 | ManoftheSea | Wrong Thing (tm) |
| 04:36.33 | LtL | yeah never give your secring.gpg only the pubring.gpg |
| 04:36.38 | ManoftheSea | you would be better served generating a keypair on your destination and carrying the public half back. |
| 04:36.44 | ManoftheSea | Rather than taking the secret key with you. |
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| 04:36.56 | ManoftheSea | If you were going to do that, use symmetric encryption |
| 04:36.59 | wavedigit | uhm, sorry guys I'm new to this |
| 04:37.05 | edgy | Hi, shouldn't apt-get install --reinstall prompts me for Y/N? |
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| 04:37.24 | wavedigit | I need private key to encrypt it, right? |
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| 04:37.38 | Cranies | http://www.amazon.com/review/R1V3J0O75M5GKE/ref=cm_srch_res_rtr_alt_3 |
| 04:37.39 | Cranies | What do you think of this? |
| 04:38.01 | LtL | wavedigit: yes and encrypt to the recipients key id |
| 04:38.18 | ManoftheSea | wavedigit: What are you trying to do? |
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| 04:38.22 | ManoftheSea | Courier a file? |
| 04:38.32 | LtL | wavedigit: you can upload your public key to anyone of the keyservers |
| 04:38.47 | ManoftheSea | You can use symmetric encryption at origin, carry the file encrypted, and decrypt at destination. |
| 04:39.00 | ManoftheSea | Or, if you have a public key for your destination: |
| 04:39.22 | ManoftheSea | Generate a secret for symmetric encryption, encrypt it to destination, carry both to destination. |
| 04:39.25 | wavedigit | right now I'm just trying to send encrypted text to someone, so that he can decrypt it, then I need him to encrypt his message and send it back to me so that I can decrypt it |
| 04:39.30 | ManoftheSea | You could even sign with origin. |
| 04:39.48 | ManoftheSea | wavedigit: You should give your public key to him, and get his public key back. |
| 04:40.04 | ManoftheSea | To do this properly, you should use a trusted, out-of-band method of communication. |
| 04:40.11 | ManoftheSea | (such as meeting in person) |
| 04:40.19 | wavedigit | ah, so he should make his own key? |
| 04:40.22 | ManoftheSea | Then, you can encrypt using his public key. |
| 04:40.24 | LtL | wavedigit: gpg --help |
| 04:40.27 | ManoftheSea | wavedigit: yes, absolutely. |
| 04:40.40 | LtL | wavedigit: you'll get the hang of it. |
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| 04:41.40 | LtL | wavedigit: you both need keys, yes |
| 04:41.41 | wavedigit | ah ok, thanks I think I understand it a bit better now |
| 04:41.49 | LtL | preferably signed |
| 04:42.03 | wavedigit | man gpg was a bit confusing for me |
| 04:42.54 | ManoftheSea | wavedigit: with keys like this, I can for instance tell you 11053edc |
| 04:43.04 | LtL | wavedigit: gpg --help tells you all you need. |
| 04:43.05 | ManoftheSea | This is my public key fingerprint. |
| 04:43.14 | ManoftheSea | You can trust it about as much as you trust that I'm me. |
| 04:43.19 | ManoftheSea | Which, right now, is not at all. |
| 04:43.50 | ManoftheSea | but if we were to meet in person, I showed you my drivers license... |
| 04:44.05 | ManoftheSea | Now you can trust it as much as you can validate my drivers license. |
| 04:44.37 | ManoftheSea | Depending on your needs, the first might be enough. |
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| 04:45.21 | wavedigit | I see, also must have to do something with that in-person communication could be harder tapped than online communication |
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| 04:45.41 | LtL | wavedigit: gpg -e -r key-id filename |
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| 04:46.15 | LtL | wavedigit: that encrypt filename to the key id of your friend |
| 04:46.35 | LtL | gpg --list-keys is handy |
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| 04:47.10 | ManoftheSea | seahorse is good for visualization of keys. |
| 04:47.43 | wavedigit | LtL: pub = public key and sub = secret key? |
| 04:47.50 | edgy | ManoftheSea: do we encrypt with the others public key or with our own private key or either? |
| 04:48.39 | ManoftheSea | wavedigit: no. Subkeys are keys signed with your master key. |
| 04:48.48 | ManoftheSea | They can be assigned for specific use. |
| 04:48.57 | ManoftheSea | Where your master key is the associated identity... |
| 04:49.24 | ManoftheSea | For example... I AM 11053edc. But an associated email might be a subkey. |
| 04:49.42 | ManoftheSea | You know it's controlled by an entity (me) because it's signed as such with that entity key |
| 04:49.57 | ManoftheSea | edgy: you encrypt using the destination public key |
| 04:50.04 | ManoftheSea | You sign with your own private key. |
| 04:50.19 | ManoftheSea | And if someone tricks you into signing something encrypted to you, the plaintext is returned. |
| 04:50.36 | ManoftheSea | (Though, usually you sign a hash) |
| 04:50.47 | edgy | ManoftheSea: let me confirm please, so if I encrypt with my private key he cannot decrypt it with my public key? |
| 04:51.00 | ManoftheSea | edgy: you do not encrypt with a private key. |
| 04:51.07 | edgy | ManoftheSea: clear ;) |
| 04:51.11 | ManoftheSea | you encrypt with a public key of the destination. |
| 04:52.26 | wavedigit | aah, ok |
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| 04:52.50 | wavedigit | is signing with the private key actually necessary? |
| 04:53.03 | wavedigit | I mean if I know the person's e-mail address, and that person knows mine |
| 04:53.05 | LtL | wavedigit: gpg --gen-key this creates ~/.gnugpg where your keys will be. |
| 04:53.09 | ManoftheSea | wavedigit: it grants the property of authentication and non-repudiation. |
| 04:53.27 | ManoftheSea | wavedigit: Anyone could encrypt to the destination, as you. |
| 04:53.35 | ManoftheSea | Your signature (should be) only able to come from you. |
| 04:53.44 | ManoftheSea | because only you control your private key. |
| 04:54.15 | ManoftheSea | wavedigit: however, an exchange using only encryption can set up an authentic tunnel. |
| 04:54.48 | LtL | wavedigit: http://gnupg.org/ |
| 04:54.52 | ManoftheSea | you encrypt to destination, destination encrypts to you. If both sides share the same info, then it's as strong as the assurance of public keys. |
| 04:55.05 | ManoftheSea | LtL: that's a good point. Look at the expert's site. |
| 04:55.09 | ManoftheSea | experts' |
| 04:55.33 | wavedigit | wow thanks |
| 04:55.40 | wavedigit | that's a lot of info |
| 04:55.53 | wavedigit | what's actually the difference between GPG and PGP? |
| 04:55.55 | LtL | wavedigit: its really not hard at all |
| 04:56.33 | LtL | wavedigit: pgp was/is for windows but is cross-compatible i think, but pgp costs money |
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| 04:57.50 | ManoftheSea | wavedigit: pgp was the commercial code. Zimmerman released the spec of the encryption |
| 04:57.56 | LtL | wavedigit: the NSA forced phil zimmerman to release the PGP source sooo |
| 04:58.02 | ManoftheSea | gpg met that spec, and is thus interoperable |
| 04:58.16 | LtL | pgp = pretty good privacy |
| 04:58.25 | ManoftheSea | ltl the pgp source was released? |
| 04:58.49 | LtL | its excellent for encrypting your important for, just encrypt to your own key id |
| 04:58.59 | LtL | important files |
| 05:00.00 | LtL | ManoftheSea: yes the US Govt won the case against zimmerman to release it to them years ago but its not open source |
| 05:01.32 | LtL | wavedigit: then you can export --send-keys to a keyserver like MIT, or others |
| 05:01.49 | LtL | wavedigit: that sends your public key only |
| 05:02.07 | ManoftheSea | friggin us gov't. |
| 05:02.15 | ManoftheSea | Why they want to push all the crypto dev out of country. |
| 05:02.16 | LtL | wavedigit: never give your secring.gpg key to anyone |
| 05:02.30 | ManoftheSea | they shut down zPhone too, right? |
| 05:02.36 | wavedigit | I see, so the public key encrypts & decrypts, and the private key signs (for authenticity purposes) |
| 05:02.42 | ManoftheSea | wavedigit: don't even put it on a server someone else has root on. |
| 05:02.49 | ManoftheSea | wavedigit: no. |
| 05:03.04 | ManoftheSea | public key can encrypt and verify signature |
| 05:03.09 | ManoftheSea | private key can decrypt and sign. |
| 05:03.25 | wavedigit | oh ok, I am not smart :( |
| 05:03.30 | ManoftheSea | And it's good practice to break those up, such that you use one key for encryption tasks and another for signature tasks. |
| 05:03.39 | LtL | wavedigit: no, you can lookup someone's name and get their pubkey to insure a signed document was signed by them. |
| 05:03.41 | ManoftheSea | These keys are associated by being signed from your master key. |
| 05:04.01 | ManoftheSea | also, encrypt your keyring, and protect that password. |
| 05:04.10 | ManoftheSea | It should be a passphrase. |
| 05:04.24 | ManoftheSea | Consider a tradeoff between making it recoverable, and making it secure. |
| 05:04.37 | ManoftheSea | If you trust banks, print it and put in bank deposit box. |
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| 05:04.43 | peterrooney | Protect that passphrase like your reputation depends on it. |
| 05:05.03 | ManoftheSea | If you trust your family, split it into pieces and give pieces to your family, to be recovered after your death. |
| 05:05.06 | ManoftheSea | Etc. |
| 05:05.10 | LtL | peterrooney: right, the passphrase is the weakest link |
| 05:05.13 | ManoftheSea | Crypto-paranoia goes deep. |
| 05:05.16 | wavedigit | woah |
| 05:05.31 | ManoftheSea | there are methods of splitting information such that x in y are needed. |
| 05:05.45 | ManoftheSea | Like, 5 pieces, any 3 to recover the original. |
| 05:06.00 | wavedigit | isn't best practice to just remember it? |
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| 05:06.27 | LtL | wavedigit: gpg is nearly impossible to crack, yes remember it |
| 05:06.59 | ManoftheSea | wavedigit: sure. I've almost forgotten my key before. |
| 05:07.16 | ManoftheSea | Took me 3 days of trying various variations of a password, to recover it. |
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| 05:08.08 | wavedigit | ouch, those 3 days must have sucked (except for that eureka moment) |
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| 05:08.38 | ManoftheSea | so... I realize we're offtopic for #debian. I invite you to continue with me in #debian-offtopic |
| 05:08.57 | wavedigit | my experience is that if you use passwords frequently, you remember them better |
| 05:09.11 | LtL | wavedigit: if you upload your key to a keyserver they email you once a year to verify it. |
| 05:09.58 | wavedigit | ManoftheSea: thanks for the invitation, but talking about anything with an empty stomach is a bad idea imho (especially crypto) :p |
| 05:10.06 | LtL | wavedigit: you dont have to put it on a keyserver though. you can just email the public key with the encrypted document |
| 05:10.11 | wavedigit | LtL: that is actually quite useful |
| 05:10.27 | LtL | wavedigit: i wouldnt live without it |
| 05:11.06 | ManoftheSea | wavedigit, ltl: that's not useful at all. Anyone can create a key to send with a document, there must be a CA or previous trust relationship in that case. |
| 05:11.24 | LtL | wavedigit: you need to know the id to encrypt to |
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| 05:12.29 | LtL | ManoftheSea: ok, email the armored signature er something i forget. |
| 05:13.11 | ManoftheSea | ok, so abrotman's encouraging me to take it to offtopic. If you don't want to, then fare thee well. |
| 05:13.18 | LtL | you need the public key to verify the sig though |
| 05:13.46 | LtL | i'm gone :) |
| 05:14.14 | LtL | sorry abrotman |
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| 05:21.02 | Cranies | "and I need to change plugs, I have been known to try and swing the cord out of the plug, and I have myself burned through a cord or two. The spark is usually caused when the wires inside of the plug touch each other, or short circuit." |
| 05:21.14 | Cranies | What is the relevance to poor electronics and short circuits in your home wiring? |
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| 05:21.34 | Cranies | Can you potentially start an electrical fire if you are using demanding electronics that are poorly made in China? |
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| 05:30.26 | sauvin | Cranies, yes. |
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| 05:33.49 | sauvin | I meant in the product itself. The wiring is a different story; it depends entirely on how good your wiring is, and how much draw your cheap Chinese device has. |
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| 05:36.54 | Cranies | sauvin: I messaged you in private. |
| 05:37.42 | Cranies | sauvin: Well, I'm looking at vacuum cleaners and I've come across some comments about motors burning out, electrical shocks, shorting of wiring, etc. |
| 05:38.22 | Cranies | As I said in private, I have a breaker panel in my bedroom that I don't want coming into effect if it can be avoided. |
| 05:38.54 | Cranies | I want to know if I am increasing my chances of shorting a circuit in the home if I am using a potentially iffy product. |
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| 05:42.53 | sauvin | Cranies, you may find better answers in ##hardware. I'm not an electrical or electronics engineer. |
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| 05:53.10 | Cranies | sauvin, Can you get into #electronics |
| 05:53.12 | Cranies | and then invite me? |
| 05:54.04 | Cranies | sauvin: Well, just wondering if electrical quality is something to consider when considering a vacuum, for instance a commodity made in China unit vs something made in Germany. |
| 05:54.11 | Cranies | Saving money on a Chinese product is fine and well |
| 05:54.29 | Cranies | but if it increases my risk of electrical problems in the home it's going to make me nervous. |
| 05:55.11 | Cranies | Again because the breaker is in my bedroom and it's a Federal Pioneer panel. Yeah, they're supposed to be safe, etc. etc. but I just don't like it and don't want to push it. |
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| 05:55.29 | Cranies | I can't talk in #hardware. |
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| 05:55.33 | Cranies | Says my IP is banned. |
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| 05:56.58 | Cranies | "I've come to realize vacuum cleaner companies care little about quality anymore, I bought a Bissell Power Track that the belt kept coming off of everytime I vacuumed, a Shark that the motor/canister kept falling off everytime I vacuumed, no wonder they give you a free steam mop and charge $$45.00+ for shipping, a $300.00 Kenmore Progressive canister that would just shut off everytime I vacuumed and now this cheap piece of garbage." |
| 05:57.11 | Cranies | You can see that many vacuums really are bottom of the barrel junk in terms of build quality. |
| 05:57.21 | Cranies | One woman said hers was giving her electrical shocks even, painful ones too. |
| 05:58.00 | sauvin | This has nothing to do with Debian. Move on. |
| 05:58.15 | Cranies | Shee sauvin. |
| 05:58.18 | Cranies | We all need a vacuum. |
| 05:58.35 | Cranies | I was coding for the Debian project before many of these youngsters were out of tighty whiteys. |
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| 05:59.39 | sauvin | Since the Debian project didn't exist until well *after* the Linux kernel had been released, that statement is highly unlikely. |
| 06:01.03 | Cranies | We're talking over 9 years ago, sauvin. |
| 06:02.08 | Cranies | I was putting in 18 hours a day |
| 06:02.19 | Cranies | my mark on the project is still there today, right in the code. |
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| 06:03.15 | Cranies | Well sheet, sauvin. It seems to me all vacuum cleaners are garbage unless you pay $500 or more. |
| 06:03.19 | Cranies | What the heck? |
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| 06:04.02 | ansgar | Cranies: I am fairly sure vacuum cleaners are offtopic in #debian. |
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| 06:23.31 | Cranies | ansgar: What the heck? |
| 06:23.37 | Cranies | We all need a vacuum. |
| 06:23.48 | Cranies | Even my computer needs to be vacuumed. |
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| 06:55.48 | dios_mio | I installed "fortune", how can i get it to quote one each time i login? |
| 06:55.52 | dios_mio | is it /etc/profile? |
| 06:57.36 | dios_mio | nm |
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| 07:01.34 | ksuhku | dios_mio, it's considered polite to share the answer to one's own question |
| 07:02.10 | dios_mio | ksuhku, i added a line at the bottom of /etc/profile that worked |
| 07:02.26 | ksuhku | thanks, this way we all learn |
| 07:02.54 | dios_mio | right sorry |
| 07:03.47 | ksuhku | no worries |
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| 07:41.51 | lae | the performance governor is supposed to set my cpu cores to use the highest clock, right? |
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| 07:47.08 | ompaul | lae: more context - in normal use if you are running something and it doesn't want to run flat out, it won't. |
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| 07:49.04 | jelly-home | lae: by default yes |
| 07:49.29 | lae | well, I just figured it out - I removed my battery earlier and apparently the BIOS was limiting the max clock to 800MHz |
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| 08:03.11 | nsadmin | how do you add to xchat (squeeze) open-url menu? |
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| 08:06.48 | julius_ | hi |
| 08:06.52 | julius_ | in this example http://paste.pound-python.org/show/25171/ from linuxfoundation, why do they use flowid 1:10 in line 21? isnt all traffic redirected to 1: ? |
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| 08:51.29 | xgl | hi all |
| 08:54.26 | ksuhku | hi one |
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| 08:58.44 | xgl | hi ksuhku |
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| 09:16.54 | Brutus- | Hi, what version should i download for intel 64bit? |
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| 09:19.12 | Brutus- | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:19.30 | Brutus- | ia64? |
| 09:20.10 | tzarc | amd64. |
| 09:20.11 | ksuhku | Brutus-, amd64 |
| 09:20.35 | ksuhku | ia64 is for itanics |
| 09:20.45 | Brutus- | really? But i haven't an amd proc |
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| 09:20.50 | Brutus- | my proc is an intel |
| 09:20.54 | tzarc | amd64 is the instruction set, not the processor |
| 09:21.06 | ectospasm | amd64 == x86_64 |
| 09:21.11 | Brutus- | ah ok |
| 09:21.18 | ectospasm | amd64 != ia64 |
| 09:21.36 | Brutus- | good. Thank you guys |
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| 09:21.46 | ectospasm | AMD devised the instruction set, which is why many call it AMD64 still |
| 09:22.00 | tzarc | that was quick, usually it needs to be said 500x before people either leave or understand |
| 09:22.01 | tzarc | nice work! |
| 09:22.05 | ksuhku | :) |
| 09:22.06 | ectospasm | ...Intel EM64T-capable processors are also amd64 arch |
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| 09:23.55 | Brutus- | bye |
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| 09:25.27 | korkman | It seems no package is responsible for /etc/inputrc anymore since readline-common moved it to /usr/share/readline/inputrc? |
| 09:25.58 | korkman | (Wheezy) |
| 09:26.30 | korkman | I got a slow connection can anyone hit "apt-file search /etc/inputrc" for me? |
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| 10:14.30 | Lewoco__ | I'm trying to transfer my existing debian system from a 8Gb HDD to a 32Gb HDD. I've already copied over all the data. I'm having a little trouble installing grub on the new HDD. Does anyone know the commands? |
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| 10:22.27 | Richard_Cavell | Lewoco__: That's quite an upgrade |
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| 10:26.21 | ectospasm | dpkg, tell Lewoco__ about grub |
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| 10:28.26 | sharky2 | Lewoco__, i would use tool called fsarchiver to create image of your system and recreate it on the other hard disc, use google for howto commands |
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| 10:40.11 | korkman | Lewoco__: grub-install /dev/X |
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| 10:46.28 | sdfgsdjf | I got this .no domain at http://www.domainnameshop.com/. But when trying to add nameservers in their control panel, I get: "The nameserver ns.sdfgsdjf.no does not answer authoritatively on queries for zone sdfgsdjf.no." |
| 10:46.32 | sdfgsdjf | But running dig shows that it does answer: http://pastie.org/4582497. Domainnameshop.no told me to read up on http://www.norid.no/regelverk/vedlegg-f.en.html -- but I'm not violating any of those rules. So what's up? |
| 10:46.36 | sdfgsdjf | Maybe my PF is blocking my slave NS transfer or something? |
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| 10:50.08 | ectospasm | sdfgsdjf: you should probably log into your domainnameshop account and look at what they list as the authoritative name servers, I know GoDaddy will list that |
| 10:51.01 | sdfgsdjf | ectospasm: but im trying to set up my own nameserver |
| 10:51.23 | sdfgsdjf | the slave ns is theirs though but it's autoconfigured to answer for my domain so i doubt that's the issue |
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| 10:53.02 | ectospasm | seems like your BIND server needs to have an A record for the hosts. |
| 10:53.14 | ectospasm | ...but I know very little about setting up a BIND server |
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| 10:53.17 | sdfgsdjf | ectospasm: it does |
| 10:53.27 | sdfgsdjf | if you check out that pastie it also contains my bind setup |
| 10:53.42 | sdfgsdjf | which is why.. i mean my setup should be perfect, i just dont get it |
| 10:53.48 | sdfgsdjf | no worries bruv |
| 10:54.00 | pozic | How can I detect that any program writes to a certain file across reboots? |
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| 10:54.40 | pozic | I suppose this is something which dtrace should support on Solaris, etc. |
| 10:55.01 | pozic | Particularly, I would like to have some kind of simple solution. |
| 10:55.15 | jelly-home | sdfgsdjf: which debian release and which version of bind9 package is this? |
| 10:55.47 | sdfgsdjf | jelly-home: the latest |
| 10:55.52 | ectospasm | pozic: tripwire? |
| 10:56.02 | ectospasm | sdfgsdjf: "the latest" is totally meaningless |
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| 10:56.29 | jelly-home | sdfgsdjf: yeah. pastebin the output of dpkg -l libc6 bind9 please |
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| 10:56.44 | sdfgsdjf | 2 sec y'all i think i found the problem |
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| 10:57.21 | jelly-home | or show dpkg -l libc6 bind9|tail -2 here, two lines shouldn't hurt anyone |
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| 11:00.17 | jelly-home | pozic: check the modification time? Or do you want to find which program it is? |
| 11:00.44 | pozic | jelly-home: which program it is. |
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| 11:01.26 | jelly-home | ah. dunno then |
| 11:02.06 | pozic | I think it should be more common to be able to just rewrite kernel code while it is running via safe APIs. |
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| 11:03.58 | ectospasm | pozic: kinda like splice? |
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| 11:04.15 | ectospasm | or, ksplice? |
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| 11:04.47 | ectospasm | or is it kslice? I can't really remember, and IIRC it's only free for Ubuntu users. |
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| 11:05.18 | korkman | ksplice it is and I never dared to try |
| 11:05.50 | korkman | it is oracle's child now |
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| 11:07.37 | ectospasm | it sounded rather hackish when I read about it |
| 11:08.13 | mah454 | I have problem with my project in Sourceforge.net : http://sourceforge.net/projects/ghasedak/files/32/ |
| 11:08.24 | mah454 | I moved files to directory |
| 11:08.36 | mah454 | Now users can not view files ! |
| 11:08.42 | mah454 | How can fix this problem ? |
| 11:08.46 | ectospasm | mah454: how is this related to Debian? |
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| 11:09.04 | mah454 | sorry ! |
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| 11:10.49 | gry | mah454: you can ask #sourceforge |
| 11:12.04 | nsadmin | mah454, #sourceforge may answer your question more quickly if you go to the web site first and generate a ticket |
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| 11:14.12 | pozic | ectospasm: kind of. |
| 11:14.28 | pozic | ectospasm: really, it's likely just a design failure in Linux. |
| 11:14.43 | korkman | /etc/inputrc <- that file enabled ctrl-arrowkey and home / end keys in shell some time ago but is now residing passively in /usr/share/readline/. does anyone know about secret plans to symlink it in /etc via update-alternatives or smth.? |
| 11:14.49 | pozic | ectospasm: Linux has been created with networks in mind, not with eternal uptime. |
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| 11:18.23 | korkman | pozic: the arguments for unstable binary APIs was more like "we don't want any obstacles when changing how the kernel works" IIRC |
| 11:18.55 | pozic | korkman: I wasn't talking about binary APIs. |
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| 11:19.46 | pozic | korkman: also, Linux exposes more implementation details than Windows does. |
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| 11:20.37 | korkman | pozic: like, the full source code :-) what parts of Linux are you talking about? |
| 11:20.38 | ectospasm | but... but... but wouldn't the binary kernel APIs that allow splicing mean the developers would be more constrained when designing the architecture? And Windows isn't as open source as Linux is, last I read. |
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| 11:21.13 | pozic | korkman: I mean that the way systemcalls work is not exactly abstract in Linux. |
| 11:21.31 | korkman | pozic: heh fadvise etc. |
| 11:21.36 | pozic | korkman: in Windows there is some additional indirection which gives the Windows kernel developers additional flexibility. |
| 11:21.52 | pozic | korkman: but it has been years that I read that document. |
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| 11:22.34 | pozic | korkman: fadvice cf Emacs advice functions? |
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| 11:22.48 | Randy1703 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeG6EVGGZtA&feature=plcp watch this |
| 11:23.01 | FilipeMaia | If I have a server with 3 large software raid arrays what's the best way to combine all the arrays in a single block that can be exported using NFS? |
| 11:23.50 | pozic | !ops Randy1703 reason: spam. |
| 11:23.51 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: pozic complains about: Randy1703 reason: spam. |
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| 11:24.30 | korkman | pozic: fadvise() is one of those not exacly abstract system calls, though now I read the flags i may change my mind |
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| 11:24.52 | ectospasm | FilipeMaia: maybe a btrfs or zfs filesystem could combine each of those into a single image |
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| 11:25.05 | FilipeMaia | ectospasm: i was looking into LVM |
| 11:25.15 | FilipeMaia | ectospasm: can't it do that? |
| 11:25.24 | pozic | korkman: I was referring to a lower level; i.e. systemcall independent. |
| 11:25.32 | ectospasm | FilipeMaia: sure, that would work too |
| 11:26.23 | ectospasm | ...but with either btrfs or zfs you wouldn't need to add the extra layer of abstraction there (since it's already built into the filesystem) |
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| 11:26.51 | ectospasm | I've only set up LVM, haven't yet had the occasion to use btrfs or zfs |
| 11:26.52 | FilipeMaia | ectospasm: but it's zfs and btrfs still a bit unstable |
| 11:27.00 | ectospasm | FilipeMaia: yes |
| 11:27.06 | ectospasm | btrfs especially |
| 11:27.24 | FilipeMaia | ectospasm: yea i don't think I can use them, i'll continue with xfs |
| 11:27.52 | FilipeMaia | ectospasm: it's a large amount of experimental which the only backup is tape and I really don't want to try to get it again |
| 11:28.09 | FilipeMaia | >300TB |
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| 11:28.50 | cusco_ | woa,what are you hosting? |
| 11:29.59 | FilipeMaia | images from X-ray diffraction experiments mostly taken at LCLS (https://news.slac.stanford.edu/press-release/giant-virus-tiny-protein-crystals-show-x-ray-lasers-power-and-potential) |
| 11:30.06 | ectospasm | experimental data? Yeah, don't trust that to ZFS (on Linux) or BTRFS (yet) |
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| 11:31.20 | pozic | FilipeMaia: cool research |
| 11:31.48 | FilipeMaia | the CCD detectors during the experiments put out 500MB of data a second so it fills our harddrives quickly |
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| 11:32.41 | pozic | FilipeMaia: don't you have large Internet uplinks? |
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| 11:33.44 | FilipeMaia | not that large, even at 80MB/s which is about as fast as it goes from DESY to SLAC it takes many days for a single experiment, which takes about 50TB |
| 11:33.47 | ectospasm | yeah, post it to FB |
| 11:34.36 | FilipeMaia | we could definitely use some faster internet |
| 11:34.51 | pozic | FilipeMaia: this isn't for the whole of Stanford is it? |
| 11:35.15 | FilipeMaia | the bottleneck is probably crossing the atlantic |
| 11:35.22 | cusco_ | yea coolresearch |
| 11:35.32 | FilipeMaia | I can get about 500MB from SLAC to LBL in Berkeley |
| 11:35.54 | cusco_ | tho I do not understand why it needs to involve so much money :/ - only to be inacessible ... |
| 11:36.10 | pozic | FilipeMaia: I think I know a way in which you could do it. |
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| 11:36.20 | pozic | FilipeMaia: it would only need low-skilled labor :) |
| 11:36.31 | FilipeMaia | pozic: for carrying the data? |
| 11:36.31 | pozic | FilipeMaia: or a simple robot |
| 11:36.46 | FilipeMaia | pozic: sending by boat? :) |
| 11:37.01 | pozic | FilipeMaia: what exactly is the problem? |
| 11:37.16 | FilipeMaia | how to store the data or how to move the data? |
| 11:37.32 | pozic | FilipeMaia: store by having hot-swappable harddisks. |
| 11:37.36 | FilipeMaia | how to move 50TB from Stanford, CA to Uppsala, Sweden |
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| 11:37.49 | pozic | FilipeMaia: move by physical mail. |
| 11:38.01 | FilipeMaia | pozic: we thought about it |
| 11:38.19 | pozic | FilipeMaia: if you care about the security of your data, encrypt it. |
| 11:38.37 | FilipeMaia | pozic: hardly anyone can make sense of it :) |
| 11:38.46 | pozic | FilipeMaia: yeah, I suspected so. |
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| 11:39.01 | FilipeMaia | we store here in RAID 6 arrays |
| 11:39.13 | FilipeMaia | we have a tape backup back in stanford |
| 11:39.18 | pozic | FilipeMaia: sure, but you cannot run the experiments continuously now. |
| 11:39.35 | pozic | FilipeMaia: if you just have a tower of harddisks next to it, you could do that. |
| 11:39.40 | FilipeMaia | pozic: sure we just run a few times a year |
| 11:40.28 | FilipeMaia | pozic: we would have to make sure the disks survive the trip. I don't know exactly how to pack them |
| 11:40.51 | pozic | FilipeMaia: ask Amazon how they do that, I suppose. |
| 11:40.55 | FilipeMaia | pozic: but using internet at the moment is still preferable to mail. Less work and about the same time |
| 11:40.57 | pozic | FilipeMaia: and just add redundancy. |
| 11:41.07 | pozic | FilipeMaia: resent when a missing harddisk occurs. |
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| 11:41.16 | pozic | FilipeMaia: it's just TCP with harddisks, instead of packets. |
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| 11:41.24 | FilipeMaia | too much manpower required :) |
| 11:41.35 | pozic | FilipeMaia: none of that requires a human. |
| 11:41.36 | FilipeMaia | copying data to disks mailing disks copying back |
| 11:41.49 | FilipeMaia | pozic: inserting and removing disks and mailing them sure does |
| 11:41.54 | pozic | FilipeMaia: you should talk to those nice robot companies in your neighborhood. |
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| 11:42.23 | korkman | FilipeMaia: about your original question: yes, lvm2 is the way to go |
| 11:42.30 | pozic | FilipeMaia: but that will likely get costs up in the short term, but long term, it's likely the best solution. |
| 11:42.42 | pozic | FilipeMaia: short-term, you can just hire a 16 year old to do that. |
| 11:43.03 | FilipeMaia | pozic: no way they would let us do that :) |
| 11:43.17 | pozic | FilipeMaia: and why not? |
| 11:43.26 | ectospasm | sneakernet 300TB? |
| 11:43.36 | ectospasm | doesn't sound like a good solution |
| 11:43.39 | abrotman | pozic: that's not really any of your business |
| 11:43.58 | pozic | abrotman: I am free to ask and you should not interfere. |
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| 11:44.07 | abrotman | pozic: how is it related to Debian? |
| 11:44.28 | FilipeMaia | pozic: too many regulations in the US national labs |
| 11:44.48 | FilipeMaia | pozic: and a few more on the Swedish side |
| 11:44.58 | abrotman | FilipeMaia: please get back on-topic |
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| 11:45.01 | FilipeMaia | pozic: we could get a grad student though :) |
| 11:45.07 | pozic | FilipeMaia: also, why would it be a large problem if it would be slow? |
| 11:45.10 | enlightified | sorry to interject but is the data compress-able? |
| 11:45.22 | FilipeMaia | enlightified: no |
| 11:45.24 | pozic | FilipeMaia: because the time to figure out a program to analyze it will be longer anyway. |
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| 11:45.51 | FilipeMaia | pozic: that's why internet is kind of okay at the moment |
| 11:45.56 | pozic | It likely is compressible, except FilipeMaia doesn't know how :) |
| 11:46.07 | pozic | That's probably for the Swedish to figure out. |
| 11:46.32 | FilipeMaia | pozic: it's not losslessly compressible |
| 11:46.34 | pozic | I'd guess that those 300TB can be compressed to about 2KB, if he already had the solution. |
| 11:46.37 | abrotman | FilipeMaia: please get back on-topic |
| 11:47.09 | FilipeMaia | abrotman: i'm trying to figure out the best way to put the data on my debian storage system |
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| 11:47.37 | abrotman | FilipeMaia: just transfer it over the internet, unless you pay per MB |
| 11:47.40 | korkman | FilipeMaia: we should take this to #debian-offtopic |
| 11:47.59 | pozic | What exactly is the problem of such 'off-topic' discussions? |
| 11:48.10 | pozic | It's certainly more interesting than whining about how broken some software is. |
| 11:48.12 | ectospasm | pozic: this is a support channel, first and foremost |
| 11:48.19 | abrotman | pozic: there are almost 1000 people here, what if they all wanted to have off-topic discussions? |
| 11:48.21 | pozic | ectospasm: and nobody is asking a question. |
| 11:48.28 | abrotman | pozic: that does NOT mean you get to be offtopic |
| 11:48.32 | pozic | abrotman: there are not 1000 people here. |
| 11:48.37 | abrotman | pozic: ALMOST |
| 11:48.39 | pozic | abrotman: there are 1000 machines logged in. |
| 11:48.45 | pozic | abrotman: which is entirely different. |
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| 11:48.54 | ectospasm | woohoo! |
| 11:49.16 | FilipeMaia | Do you think running software RAID 6 on a 45 disk array is wise? |
| 11:49.17 | abrotman | pozic: please stop being offtopic, argumentative .. Take a timeout |
| 11:49.38 | FilipeMaia | (i'm hoping that counts as ontopic) |
| 11:49.43 | korkman | FilipeMaia: i just setup a 120 TB array softraid 6 |
| 11:49.53 | korkman | FilipeMaia: /join #debian-offtopic |
| 11:49.54 | abrotman | FilipeMaia: what's the alternative? |
| 11:50.03 | FilipeMaia | abrotman: split in smaller arrays |
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| 11:50.19 | abrotman | didnt' really answer the question .. |
| 11:50.38 | korkman | FilipeMaia: i will discuss my decisions with you there |
| 11:50.43 | FilipeMaia | abrotman: say 3 15 disk raid 6 arrays, maybe software raid 6 |
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| 11:54.42 | Deepvertigo | Hi |
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| 11:55.35 | gry | hi |
| 11:56.03 | richardk | hi |
| 11:56.34 | Deepvertigo | I had debian, I installed win7 in my computer too. It was the loader of win7 which start. So I tried to make grub starting , I took a live cd I did : update-grub and grub-install /dev/sda... So grub starts but I have an entry for debian only I don't have win7 |
| 11:57.31 | abrotman | Deepvertigo: i've had good luck using the supergrub CD to boot linux and then reinstall grub from that OS |
| 11:57.54 | Deepvertigo | how can I have an entry in grub for win7 too... I know how to configure with grub.conf but here it's grub.cfg which is generating |
| 11:58.21 | Deepvertigo | abrotman: yes but I will not burn a cd for this! |
| 11:58.33 | abrotman | use a usb drive? |
| 11:58.42 | Deepvertigo | I know that the problem is simple :D |
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| 12:11.41 | \Jan | So what, one of my USB ports will be disabled until I reboot or something? |
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| 12:34.09 | cristi8 | hi, are there any ImageMagick python bindings included with squeeze ? |
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| 12:36.27 | cristi8 | nevermind, i've found python-pythonmagick |
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| 12:42.20 | [matsalleh] | Is it possible to turn off address randomisation for things like /bin/bash? Nothing suspicious btw, I work at a university developing virtual images for computer forensics students. |
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| 12:44.43 | abrotman | which address? |
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| 12:49.22 | enlightified | I finally got snd-aloop installed in squeeze BTW. |
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| 12:50.14 | enlightified | I had to "make install" the alsa-driver from source. Which of course I didn't want to do in the first place. |
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| 13:33.53 | sKeiths | is there a NX X compressions server in the apt-get library? |
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| 13:34.53 | sKeiths | i used apt-get cache and found only libs and clients. |
| 13:35.40 | sKeiths | ^ for stable, squeeze |
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| 13:40.00 | boudiccas | sKeiths: use synaptic and search there, its easier than trying to guess in apt-get |
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| 13:42.31 | sKeiths | okay, thanks, i'll try to start synaptic |
| 13:44.03 | sKeiths | it says i have latest version of synaptic already installed but wont start when i run synaptic |
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| 13:44.22 | sKeiths | ~bash: synaptic: command not found |
| 13:44.35 | boudiccas | sKeiths: i had this problem on squeeze, the workaround was to use sudo synaptic |
| 13:44.54 | sKeiths | excellent, thanks. |
| 13:46.18 | sKeiths | i have other problems with that :( putty x11 proxy: wrong authorisation protocol attempted, going to go goodle that for a while. bbiaf |
| 13:46.21 | ectospasm | or gksudo synaptic if you want to maintain GUIness |
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| 14:00.05 | whoxx | Hi, is there possible to use a dd to create a disk image, and save it to multiple floppy disks? |
| 14:00.46 | whoxx | I have an old computer with no network, no usb and no cdrom, and the only way I can save data is through floppy disks |
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| 14:01.35 | korkman | whoxx: piping to tar or split should work |
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| 14:01.45 | whoxx | oh, good idea |
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| 14:01.53 | Mysterytrain | is it only fat32 and ntfs volumes that allow for the addition of volume labels? |
| 14:02.09 | acidchild | LVM? |
| 14:02.10 | whoxx | thanks korkman, I didn't think of that |
| 14:02.19 | acidchild | whoxx: good luck, you sir, i respect. |
| 14:02.21 | korkman | Mysterytrain: it is only a few filesystems that DON'T allow labels |
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| 14:02.53 | korkman | Mysterytrain: yet the ability to display those labels depends on the operating system |
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| 14:03.11 | Mysterytrain | I'm tired of making ext3 partitions and having to do: 7ede5aae-054d-4055-aba7-7b4559332a6c in /etc/fstab, so what do I do to name /dev/sdb2 something like tmp and having to do LABEL=tmp in fstab? |
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| 14:03.29 | korkman | Mysterytrain: use e2label? |
| 14:03.48 | korkman | (or -L when formatting) |
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| 14:04.12 | Mysterytrain | korkman: using parted? |
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| 14:04.44 | whoxx | Mysterytrain: why don't you change the label using gparted? |
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| 14:04.51 | korkman | Mysterytrain: no, it's a filesystem tunable. parted can only name gpt partitions and those labels are not supported yet |
| 14:04.53 | whoxx | it's really quick and easy |
| 14:04.59 | whoxx | oh, ok |
| 14:05.08 | bravvve22 | hello,am under squeeze ,can i install aircrack |
| 14:05.21 | Mysterytrain | oh that's why. |
| 14:05.28 | Mysterytrain | got to find another tool lol |
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| 14:05.39 | korkman | Mysterytrain: e2label it is trust me :-) |
| 14:06.02 | Mysterytrain | korkman: thanks. |
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| 14:06.47 | no_gravity | hello! My internet speed often becomes real slow (1/10 of normal) and when I tell the network manager applet to disconnect and reconnect its fast again. Any idea why? |
| 14:07.13 | korkman | no_gravity: WLAN or wired? |
| 14:07.33 | no_gravity | korkman: wlan |
| 14:08.27 | korkman | no_gravity: speed adjusts to error rates so i'd guess your reception is bad. on reconnect, it tries higher rates first until errors occur. |
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| 14:08.53 | no_gravity | korkman: ah! interesting. strange, that it adjusts down but not up. |
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| 14:09.44 | korkman | no_gravity: not 100% sure that's the problem but it's plausible. another possibility is a program downloading / uploading which waits for a timeout on reconnect |
| 14:10.10 | korkman | no_gravity: aptitude install dstat |
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| 14:10.35 | no_gravity | korkman: hmm.. i doubt something is using the bandwidth. |
| 14:10.38 | korkman | no_gravity: dstat will show, amonst others, download / upload speed |
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| 14:11.17 | no_gravity | korkman: dstat or iftop? |
| 14:12.04 | sKeiths | yay, i got synaptic working. had to add magic cookies to xauth |
| 14:12.25 | korkman | no_gravity: dstat can do. actually dstat will tell much about the state of a system so i always recommend using it and learing how to read it. |
| 14:13.33 | korkman | no_gravity: but iftop is more specific, of course, and will point to the actual program |
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| 14:15.09 | no_gravity | korkman: dstat will not point to the actual program? |
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| 14:15.33 | bravvve22 | any one |
| 14:15.49 | korkman | no_gravity: no. dstat is more of a generic system health monitor, but it will show in sum activity on any network interface |
| 14:16.40 | korkman | bravvve22: did you search for it? apt-cache search aircrack |
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| 14:16.58 | no_gravity | korkman: ok, thanks for the info. when it gets slow again i will either try dstat or iftop. |
| 14:17.15 | korkman | no_gravity: also try to find the negotiated speed |
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| 14:17.31 | korkman | no_gravity: ethtool would do for wired, can't tell off my head for wireless |
| 14:17.36 | bravvve22 | no it does not existe on squeeze depo |
| 14:17.48 | no_gravity | korkman: the network applet says 54MB/s |
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| 14:18.03 | no_gravity | korkman: 54 Mb/s |
| 14:18.04 | korkman | no_gravity: when it gets slow? |
| 14:18.14 | no_gravity | korkman: i think it always says that. |
| 14:18.19 | bravvve22 | korkman: no it does not existe on squeeze depo |
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| 14:19.24 | korkman | bravvve22: then you'll have to search in backports, or compile yourself. when self-compiling, always use "checkinstall" instead of "make install" to get a nice handy deb package |
| 14:20.03 | boudiccas | ,v aircrack |
| 14:20.04 | judd | No package named 'aircrack' was found in i386. |
| 14:21.40 | korkman | (actually there is a package aircrack-ng in sid, and I assume it doesn't enter wheezy for a reason) |
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| 14:23.34 | boudiccas | ,v aircrack-ng |
| 14:23.35 | judd | Package: aircrack-ng on i386 -- lenny: 1:1.0~rc1-2; sid: 1:1.1-5 |
| 14:23.41 | bravvve22 | korkman: ok thank you |
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| 14:24.20 | bravvve22 | judd: i am under squeeze |
| 14:24.21 | judd | No package named 'am' was found in squeeze/i386. |
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| 14:24.53 | korkman | bravvve22: well if the dependencies aren't too wild, you can install sid packages on squeeze by adding sid lines to your apt sources |
| 14:25.08 | acidchild | I installed the grsec kernel package and now i get the following error on boot: http://slackadelic.com/~ash/kernel_boot_error.jpg is this related to grub being installed in the wrong place or is my kernel missing devtmpfs? |
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| 14:26.30 | boudiccas | korkman: not really good advice, as you're likely to screw your squeeze installation for any upgrade to wheezy, and also in general usage too |
| 14:26.32 | hfuist | can I watch the bugreports of a given package, sorted chronologically (according to when it was filed)? |
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| 14:27.10 | korkman | boudiccas: true |
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| 14:53.18 | jelly-home | acidchild: which debian release is this suppsed to be? |
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| 14:54.42 | acidchild | jelly-home: 6.0.5 |
| 14:55.08 | jelly-home | acidchild: can you bring lvm up manually in the initramfs shell? vgchange -ay |
| 14:55.22 | acidchild | i do not have physical access to the machine, is this an LVM issue? |
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| 14:55.29 | acidchild | i used the cr0.org grsec package. |
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| 14:55.41 | acidchild | i'm attempting to reproduce the error in virutalbox at the moment. |
| 14:55.57 | jelly-home | acidchild: it might be lvm, it might be lack of drivers built in, it might be an improperly built initramfs |
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| 14:56.42 | jelly-home | changing to an untested kernel without console access -- not the greatest idea |
| 14:57.15 | acidchild | haha yeah indeed :-) |
| 14:58.12 | jelly-home | http://kernelsec.cr0.org/ last update is from 2010 |
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| 14:59.04 | jelly-home | current grsecurity patch for 2.6.32 is dated 2012-08-23 |
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| 15:00.09 | acidchild | interestingly enough, it does appear to work okay in virutalbox. |
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| 15:00.41 | jelly-home | !debug initramfs |
| 15:00.42 | dpkg | methinks initramfsdebug is http://wiki.debian.org/InitramfsDebug |
| 15:00.57 | acidchild | so it is a LVM/initramfs issue. |
| 15:01.00 | jelly-home | or boot an older kernel |
| 15:01.12 | acidchild | because my virtualbox install doesn't use LVM. |
| 15:01.42 | jelly-home | your vbox install probably also uses different disk controller drivers |
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| 15:02.17 | acidchild | yep |
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| 15:03.39 | acidchild | i will attempt to reproduce the issue with a debian install using LVM. |
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| 15:13.59 | milo__ | .-. |
| 15:14.57 | milo__ | 'lo i um... can i have an example of complete repository file (/etc/apt/sources.list) on IPv6 connections? |
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| 15:15.42 | boudiccas | what for? wheezy, squeeze, or lenny? |
| 15:15.50 | Dagger2 | it is the same as on a v4 connection; just make sure to use a mirror address with a v6 address |
| 15:15.59 | milo__ | boudiccas, wheezy and squeeze. |
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| 15:16.43 | milo__ | i am making a debian repositories ipv4 to v6 |
| 15:16.49 | milo__ | script |
| 15:16.56 | GiantChip | why? |
| 15:17.01 | milo__ | :s |
| 15:17.09 | milo__ | why ask? |
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| 15:17.25 | milo__ | i have nothing to do so i need to code something... |
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| 15:18.24 | GiantChip | as they said in that movie "Taken" Good luck |
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| 15:18.39 | milo64 | oO |
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| 15:20.51 | milo64 | ... |
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| 15:22.46 | milo64 | here is my repo: http://paste.debian.net/185573/ , i live in thailand. Please demonstrate how to make these ipv6, please? |
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| 15:23.26 | Dagger2 | milo64: all of those repositories have v6 already |
| 15:23.35 | milo64 | O_O |
| 15:23.36 | GiantChip | are you only trying to change one repos? |
| 15:23.37 | Dagger2 | i.e. you don't need to do anything |
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| 15:24.09 | milo64 | but i am on ipv4 (will be on ipv6 later, hopefully) |
| 15:24.44 | GiantChip | i'm not going here. |
| 15:25.20 | Dagger2 | milo64: well, there's the problem you need to fix. once you have v6 connectivity, apt-get will use v6 for you |
| 15:25.37 | milo64 | :D |
| 15:25.37 | sney | milo64: it's the DNS server's job to turn a domain name like ftp.th.debian.org into an ip address, so once your provider changes over, it will change that domain into an ipv6 address and you don't need to do anything |
| 15:25.40 | milo64 | Yay! |
| 15:25.51 | mentor | milo64: The difference between using ipv4 and ipv6 is whether you look up a A record or AAAA record in DNS |
| 15:25.58 | milo64 | kay |
| 15:26.26 | Dagger2 | sney: well, there's no "change over"; they'll almost certainly introduce v6 without removing v4 |
| 15:26.39 | sney | just simplifying |
| 15:26.42 | milo64 | ok, 'nother issue. My Laptop battery is running down too fast. |
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| 15:26.52 | Dagger2 | and their DNS servers will return both A and AAAA records if asked regardless of which connectivity is available |
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| 15:31.32 | milo64 | gah... i see. I talk too much. Usually people stop responding when i talk too much. :P |
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| 15:39.34 | Dan39 | is it good to do lvm over a md raid0 partition? |
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| 15:40.02 | Dan39 | or just remove the raid and make lvm over the 2 hdd partitions? |
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| 15:43.29 | sKeiths | if /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated, how am i supposed to do network restart? |
| 15:44.32 | boudiccas | sKeiths: sudo service network start |
| 15:44.42 | sKeiths | thanks boudiccas |
| 15:44.55 | boudiccas | skeiqthat might work, untested though |
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| 15:44.59 | guest-34929 | hi |
| 15:45.26 | guest-34929 | how to take a video in debian 7 |
| 15:45.38 | sKeiths | network: unrecognised service |
| 15:46.19 | boudiccas | sKeiths: i said it was untested, sorry. |
| 15:46.30 | sKeiths | okay |
| 15:46.42 | sKeiths | maybe i just reboot :( |
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| 15:48.28 | guest-34929 | how i can record a video from my webcam? |
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| 15:49.09 | GiantChip | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=webcam |
| 15:49.11 | CrowX- | how do I install nginx with the geoip module included on debian? |
| 15:50.08 | nyuszika7h | hi, I'm using http://pkg-mono.alioth.debian.org/ but it says mono has no installation candidate... what now? |
| 15:50.13 | acidchild | jelly-home: i am unable to reproduce the issue in virutalbox, it worked out of the box. |
| 15:50.21 | nyuszika7h | mono-complete is not what I want, it's a headless server |
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| 15:50.59 | wjtaylor | Can someone tell me if this is a good way for installing a webcam? Or is there another preferrable way... http://www.debianadmin.com/how-to-configure-webcam-in-debian-linux.html |
| 15:51.40 | GiantChip | wjtaylor> i'm sure there is somethign that would be easier in the repos |
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| 15:52.44 | guest-34929 | how i can record a video from my webcam? |
| 15:52.46 | guest-34929 | how i can record a video from my webcam? |
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| 15:57.21 | TomasHanzel | Hi all, could you please help me? I have file with IP and names . I would like to save only name and only ip from that file but i dont know how. : file examle is : http://pastebin.com/zEPzvSCS after this i would like to import this into mysql (ill ask later at mysql how) |
| 15:57.22 | wjtaylor | guest-34929: I'm here trying to figure the same thing out |
| 15:57.40 | wjtaylor | can you see the cam with lsusb command? |
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| 16:00.25 | wjtaylor | I see the webcam with lsusb, but cannot select camera in Cheese. What can I do to troubleshoot/correct? |
| 16:01.24 | wjtaylor | guest-34929: I found this, but don't know if it's accurate. http://www.debianadmin.com/how-to-configure-webcam-in-debian-linux.html |
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| 16:03.31 | TomasHanzel | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:05.52 | GiantChip | this is to much like work. |
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| 16:16.47 | acemi | TomasHanzel: sed "s/.*] \([^(]*\)([^(]*(\([^)]*\)).*/\1 \2/" filename |
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| 16:18.41 | DexterF | hi |
| 16:20.12 | TomasHanzel | acemi: thank you very much |
| 16:20.28 | acemi | np |
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| 16:22.36 | acemi | TomasHanzel: for sql, sed "s/.*] \([^(]*\)([^(]*(\([^)]*\)).*/INSERT INTO table VALUES ('\1', '\2');/" filename > filename.sql |
| 16:22.39 | mparodi | Hello |
| 16:22.44 | frostschutz | TomasHanzel: have a care for names that contain (), spaces, etc. The output you have there is not easily machine parseable, you have to do some assertions there |
| 16:23.02 | mparodi | I'm having problems to mount a sata hard disk through a pci-sata adapter |
| 16:23.18 | mparodi | from dmesg: ata4: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 310) |
| 16:23.30 | mparodi | any idea? |
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| 16:27.14 | frostschutz | mparodi: sounds like the drive is not connected, not powered, or otherwise not detected. check/replace cables? |
| 16:27.44 | mparodi | the cable is completely new |
| 16:28.06 | frostschutz | new cables can be faulty too |
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| 16:28.40 | mparodi | hmn, ok.. I don't have another one right now but I'll try |
| 16:28.46 | mparodi | thanks |
| 16:29.07 | mparodi | is there a way to check if it's not the adapter? |
| 16:29.34 | frostschutz | link down means hey there's no drive. of course you could be seeing the message of another unused sata port there |
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| 16:30.27 | mparodi | this adapter has 3 SATA ports plus one IDE |
| 16:30.34 | mparodi | I'm only using one sata |
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| 16:32.30 | mparodi | http://paste.debian.net/185583/ |
| 16:32.45 | mparodi | froggyman, maybe this message is related to the ports that I'm not using, what do you think? |
| 16:33.12 | mparodi | there I pasted more logs of /var/log/messages |
| 16:33.50 | mparodi | (btw, | grep ata) |
| 16:35.11 | frostschutz | mparodi: the link down message is normal for any port that doesnt have a drive connected to it. I don't know which port your disk is supposed to be connected to. |
| 16:35.42 | frostschutz | mparodi: does your sata controller show up in lspci -k? |
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| 16:38.05 | mparodi | I suppose. I'm not quite sure which one it is but.. http://paste.debian.net/185584/ |
| 16:38.21 | mparodi | one of these ^ |
| 16:38.47 | wjtaylor | how do I troubleshoot a webcam? |
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| 16:39.13 | cheese1756 | wjtaylor, What's wrong with it? |
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| 16:40.17 | boateo97 | ciao |
| 16:40.25 | wjtaylor | cheese1756: It shows up in lsusb, but it crashes camorama and doesn't allow me to select it in cheese. gstreamer-properties gives errors when testing |
| 16:40.31 | yecril71pl | In which package is debian-logo? |
| 16:40.33 | boateo97 | llist |
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| 16:40.48 | ompaul | !it |
| 16:40.49 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 16:41.05 | boateo97 | grazie |
| 16:41.29 | yecril71pl | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:41.32 | mparodi | ok, I'm sure now. froggyman, it's there: 00:05.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6421 IDE RAID Controller (rev 50) |
| 16:41.41 | mparodi | err, frostschutz ^ |
| 16:41.57 | froggyman | chuckles a little |
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| 16:45.14 | mparodi | any idea? |
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| 16:49.22 | cheese1756 | wjtaylor, What errors? |
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| 16:53.54 | wjtaylor | libv4l2: error turning on stream: Input/output error |
| 16:53.55 | wjtaylor | gstreamer-properties-Message: Error running pipeline 'Video for Linux 2 (v4l2)': Error starting streaming on device '/dev/video0'. [gstv4l2object.c(1970): gst_v4l2_object_start_streaming (): /GstPipeline:pipeline0/GstV4l2Src:v4l2src1: |
| 16:53.55 | wjtaylor | system error: Input/output error] |
| 16:54.28 | wjtaylor | It gives messages with missing plugins when i launch gstreamer-properties |
| 16:54.51 | wjtaylor | not sure if those are needed though... |
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| 16:55.56 | cheese1756 | wjtaylor, Not if it's a hardware problem |
| 16:56.10 | cheese1756 | Has it worked previously? |
| 16:56.14 | cheese1756 | Or in other OSes? |
| 16:56.57 | wjtaylor | Just added it, but am setting an ubuntu VM to see if it works there. It's worked in windows. |
| 16:58.07 | cheese1756 | wjtaylor, See if it works in Ubuntu. If so, it probably requires proprietary drivers (or at least that's my guess). |
| 16:59.02 | wjtaylor | ok. I was hoping it wouldn't since it came up in lsusb. |
| 16:59.11 | cheese1756 | Yeah, that's the odd part |
| 16:59.16 | cheese1756 | That's where it stops making sense |
| 16:59.28 | cheese1756 | And you tried multiple webcam software? |
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| 17:05.10 | edju | Running testing. Trying to MAKEDEV sr0, but /dev/MAKEDEV is a link to /bin/true. man true says it's a prog to "do nothing," so that's what MAKEDEV dos - nothing. Any advice appreciated. |
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| 17:07.06 | Xoron | hello again :) |
| 17:07.18 | Xoron | i'm having a few issues figuring out iptables |
| 17:07.27 | thomaschaaf | Hey I am trying to write a one liner: ssh root@`grep computername /etc/openvpn/ipp.txt | awk -F"," '{print $2}'` but it doesn't do anything |
| 17:07.40 | thomaschaaf | the grep part seems to print the ip though |
| 17:08.22 | Xoron | thomaschaaf: grep isn't searching for anything |
| 17:08.35 | Xoron | sorry it is |
| 17:08.58 | Xoron | actually i have no experiance getting such a thing to work myself |
| 17:09.10 | Xoron | i can't multitask lol |
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| 17:09.15 | Xoron | two seconds |
| 17:10.06 | thomaschaaf | I found it :( machine powered down was still in the ipp.txt |
| 17:11.07 | Xoron | oops |
| 17:13.35 | Xoron | anyway, my problem that i'm having is that i can't share my internet connection (wlan0) with my xbox360 (yes i know, and that's on eth0 using a crossover cable) |
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| 17:14.36 | Xoron | i've found a few guides on MASQ |
| 17:14.42 | Xoron | in iptables |
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| 17:14.52 | Xoron | but i'm not sure what i'm doing |
| 17:15.06 | Xoron | especially since i can't seem to restart iptables |
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| 17:18.46 | thomaschaaf | What is the best way to send a telnet command? I would like to get the current CLIENT_LIST from telnets management console. |
| 17:19.00 | thomaschaaf | and then work with the output programmatically |
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| 17:22.53 | r3m | anybody knows a program that ask questions? I would like to put my questions in it and then practice. i know i can do a shell script very easily for that but i want something more complete, like multi answer choice, etc |
| 17:23.41 | korkman | thomaschaaf: "expect" is useful for that |
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| 17:24.56 | Xoron | r3m: case and read is useful for that |
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| 17:26.43 | Xoron | and there is something similar in c too |
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| 17:27.01 | alkisg | r3m: whiptail |
| 17:27.13 | alkisg | It's the one used in text-mode debconf questions |
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| 17:29.12 | r3m | alkisg: Xoron thanks guys ! |
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| 17:29.20 | alkisg | r3m: also zenity if you want X |
| 17:29.24 | alkisg | (gtk) |
| 17:30.10 | roobarb1 | hi. what's the current code name of the latest Debian? sarge, lenny, ... |
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| 17:32.09 | gr3 | roobarb1: for stable it's squeeze |
| 17:32.40 | gr3 | roobarb1: for Debian testing it's wheezy |
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| 17:33.42 | roobarb1 | thanks gr3 |
| 17:34.57 | hfuist_ | can I watch the bugreports of a given package, sorted chronologically (according to when it was filed by the bugreporter)? |
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| 17:35.28 | gr3 | roobarb1: you're welcome |
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| 17:47.41 | kio_http | Hi, is it possible to have my PC with one network adapter, connect to a wirless network and broadcast a 2nd wireless network that other devices can connect to. In windows 7 it is done like this http://community.spiceworks.com/how_to/show/897 |
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| 17:52.11 | korkman | i have an external 1tb hdd, jmicron usb bridge, behaving strange |
| 17:52.52 | korkman | for example starting parted and printing the partition table causes 100% CPU wait for that process for about 10 seconds |
| 17:53.22 | korkman | dmesg says: |
| 17:53.30 | mparodi | I just installed debian stable in a computer but it didn't set the PATH variable (actually the problem is that PATH=/usr/bin:/bin) |
| 17:53.33 | mparodi | why was that? |
| 17:53.35 | korkman | usb 1-1: reset high-speed USB device number 7 using ehci_hcd |
| 17:53.55 | korkman | OTOH dd'ing another disk to that disk |
| 17:54.05 | korkman | is clean 28 mb/s |
| 17:54.11 | korkman | (usb 2.0 connected) |
| 17:54.13 | mparodi | where do I have to set the rest of the path? |
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| 17:54.41 | abrotman | mparodi: what would you like the path to be? |
| 17:55.08 | korkman | the disk is 4k logical and physical. |
| 17:55.09 | mparodi | something more like: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11 |
| 17:55.12 | mparodi | (as in this computer) |
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| 17:55.42 | mparodi | abrotman, I know I can put export PATH=... in .zshrc. but that's not the point |
| 17:55.56 | abrotman | mparodi: your path is likely correct for a normal user |
| 17:56.16 | mparodi | look at this error |
| 17:56.51 | mparodi | http://paste.debian.net/185592/ |
| 17:56.57 | mparodi | NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin. |
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| 17:57.47 | abrotman | mparodi: did you look at /etc/profile ? |
| 17:57.50 | korkman | interesting: hdparm reports 512b logical, but parted reports 4k |
| 17:57.57 | abrotman | seems like someone messed up your files |
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| 17:58.31 | mparodi | profile: http://paste.debian.net/185594/ |
| 17:58.43 | mparodi | it seems to be ok |
| 17:58.59 | abrotman | then some other file is altering your path .. |
| 17:59.20 | mparodi | btw, I use zsh, not bash, but I guess it reads the same file (profile) |
| 17:59.26 | abrotman | perhaps your in your $HOME |
| 17:59.27 | mparodi | at least I haven't had any problem |
| 17:59.38 | mparodi | before |
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| 18:05.32 | infernix | hm, how do you dpkg-buildpackage for multiarch? i've patched one and dpkg-buildpackage -b -ai386 is not working quite as i expect it; builds fine without -ai386 |
| 18:06.41 | infernix | you can't build-dep for another arch either it seems |
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| 18:09.44 | korkman | a quick way to clone a disk, original being 512b, target 4k logical? |
| 18:09.49 | korkman | partimage? |
| 18:10.09 | infernix | you actually have a 4k native sector disk? |
| 18:10.23 | infernix | i've been looking for those |
| 18:10.43 | infernix | i would mkfs and rsync, for what it's worth |
| 18:10.46 | mparodi | I can't find where in ~/ PATH is being defined |
| 18:10.48 | mparodi | :| |
| 18:11.33 | xgl | re |
| 18:11.52 | blubberdiblub | korkman, just make sure your target partitions are aligned to 4k boundaries, no things you have to pay attention for otherwise |
| 18:12.02 | Shadow` | arent most 1-2-3tb disks native 4k sectors infernix? |
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| 18:12.53 | infernix | i haven't seen any yet |
| 18:13.01 | korkman | Shadow`: logical 4k is rare. |
| 18:13.08 | infernix | wanted to buy one last month, nothin gon the market. they all emulate 512 |
| 18:13.09 | korkman | and ... unfortunate as it seems. |
| 18:13.30 | korkman | infernix: for the record, it's a "platinum mydrive" from bestmedia |
| 18:13.47 | korkman | 1tb 2.5", pretty common i'd guess |
| 18:13.56 | infernix | i have a san box that does 4k, but then if you give part of that disk (even with lvm) to a VM and use directio, the VMs cant boot |
| 18:13.57 | korkman | and the jmicron controller hates me |
| 18:14.01 | infernix | same as in the real hardware world |
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| 18:15.07 | infernix | korkman: so dmesg actually says 4096-byte logical blocks? |
| 18:16.25 | zinx | i have one that claims to be 512b native, but if you access it at 512 byte boundaries, it will crash if it needs to reallocate/correct a sector. |
| 18:16.40 | zinx | so it absolutely has to be accessed at 4k boundaries, in 4k blocks |
| 18:16.43 | korkman | [25605.223755] scsi 11:0:0:0: Direct-Access ST1000LM 024 HN-M101MBB 0000 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 CCS |
| 18:16.43 | korkman | [25605.736767] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb] 244190646 4096-byte logical blocks: (1.00 TB/931 GiB) |
| 18:16.54 | infernix | it does. cool |
| 18:17.01 | infernix | so, just mkfs and rsync |
| 18:17.11 | korkman | *sigh* 12 partitions? |
| 18:17.16 | infernix | i wouldn't clone the partitions |
| 18:17.31 | infernix | mkfs em all, mount all the old and the new, one rsync job and done |
| 18:17.46 | infernix | less data copied too, thus faster |
| 18:18.11 | korkman | partimage is supposed to do that isn't it? |
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| 18:18.55 | korkman | well, it will probably fail on the 512-to-4096 conversion of the partition table |
| 18:18.59 | infernix | if you clone and you're not putting clusters on sector boundaries that could be bad |
| 18:19.07 | korkman | ouch |
| 18:19.16 | korkman | didn't think of that |
| 18:19.22 | infernix | so do the right thing [tm] |
| 18:19.53 | korkman | the only problem is that every write to the damn thing takes 20 seconds or so |
| 18:20.14 | korkman | there seems to be a communications problem between linux and the usb bridge |
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| 18:21.01 | infernix | s/clusters/fs blocks/ |
| 18:21.05 | infernix | you get the point |
| 18:22.01 | korkman | yeah though ... filesystems place everything on 4k boundaries anyways because that's the pagesize? |
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| 18:22.45 | korkman | and why the heck does hdparm report 512-byte sectors |
| 18:23.08 | korkman | smartctl does, too |
| 18:23.15 | korkman | heck, the disk is 512e |
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| 18:23.24 | korkman | only the jmicron bridge forces 4k |
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| 18:24.04 | korkman | thinks what that means for partition table access |
| 18:24.44 | korkman | so the bridge must translate all my partition table modifications? |
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| 18:25.27 | korkman | or it doesn't care and writes the partition table as-is on the disk with completely wrong (from disk perspective) sectors |
| 18:26.08 | mparodi | is there a way to find all the files in which a variable (PATH) is defined? |
| 18:26.25 | korkman | mparodi: grep? |
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| 18:28.53 | nsadmin | grep -r PATH / |
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| 18:29.09 | nsadmin | probably you want to do that as root |
| 18:29.17 | mparodi | alright, it will take hours but I'll try |
| 18:29.29 | nsadmin | unmount your cdrom then :) |
| 18:29.36 | nsadmin | and your network vols |
| 18:29.39 | blubberdiblub | that's no good idea, nsadmin ;) would probably try to grep files it shouldn't grep. like the stuff in /proc, /sys /dev |
| 18:29.55 | korkman | like, all ram and core :) |
| 18:29.56 | mparodi | blubberdiblub, any better idea? |
| 18:30.02 | nsadmin | oh, good pt |
| 18:30.12 | korkman | find + grep |
| 18:30.23 | blubberdiblub | you can combine grep with find, tho, and let find only find standard files |
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| 18:30.38 | korkman | and stay on one filesystem |
| 18:31.04 | korkman | (maybe scan additional mounts as needed) |
| 18:31.04 | peterrooney | does noone remember --binary-files=without-match |
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| 18:31.19 | nsadmin | mparodi, right, maybe you don't want to find -all- files... |
| 18:31.35 | peterrooney | mparodi: also, you'll probably want 'PATH=' instead of 'PATH' |
| 18:31.36 | mparodi | argh, I just want to know why PATH is not what I have in /etc/profile lol |
| 18:31.46 | blubberdiblub | that doesn't help much when grep tries to open device files, peterrooney |
| 18:31.49 | abrotman | mparodi: try it as another user |
| 18:31.56 | abrotman | see if it's system-wide or just your user |
| 18:32.10 | mparodi | ok, I'll create another user |
| 18:32.12 | nsadmin | ok, then grep -r PATH ~ |
| 18:32.36 | blubberdiblub | and maybe /etc, too |
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| 18:33.18 | blubberdiblub | ~ might not be safe. there might be sockets inside created from the DE or somesuch |
| 18:33.20 | abrotman | a file in /etc/ source a file in /var/ |
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| 18:34.43 | nsadmin | anyway, maybe it's in one of your .files |
| 18:34.55 | blubberdiblub | i often had grep hang on me when grepping my whole ~ because of sockets or named pipes inside there |
| 18:35.10 | blubberdiblub | find ~ -type f -exec grep -H 'yourword' '{}' \; |
| 18:35.22 | blubberdiblub | helps |
| 18:35.36 | nsadmin | wouldn't that also hit sockets? |
| 18:35.42 | abrotman | in $HOME ? |
| 18:35.47 | blubberdiblub | no |
| 18:35.56 | blubberdiblub | yes, created by the DE or somesuch, abrotman |
| 18:36.14 | blubberdiblub | no, nsadmin, -type f finds only standard files |
| 18:36.20 | abrotman | perhaps .. not sure it'd store them there |
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| 18:36.22 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 18:36.35 | nsadmin | so -type s would find sockets? |
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| 18:37.04 | mparodi | what on Earth? I don't have createuser o.o |
| 18:37.15 | korkman | mparodi: adduser |
| 18:37.23 | mparodi | neither |
| 18:37.23 | nsadmin | mparodi, then you don't have postgresql :) |
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| 18:37.48 | mparodi | no, I don't |
| 18:38.11 | nsadmin | createuser is pg, adduser is for unix system users |
| 18:38.25 | mparodi | I don't have adduser |
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| 18:38.40 | blubberdiblub | abrotman, right now i got 2 sockets there created by dropbox |
| 18:38.52 | nsadmin | probably your path doesn't find it. try as root |
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| 18:39.07 | abrotman | blubberdiblub: not something i use |
| 18:39.15 | mparodi | ah, never mind! I have it but it's not in my PATH lol |
| 18:39.23 | mparodi | ok, creating a user.. |
| 18:39.51 | nsadmin | it's not in your path and you were root at the time? |
| 18:40.19 | mparodi | nsadmin, yeah, I'm trying to find where PATH is defined because someone it's not being defined correctly |
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| 18:40.52 | mparodi | ok, it's just with root, abrotman |
| 18:41.08 | nsadmin | if you're looking to test using a new user, note that creating a new user copies .files from /etc/skel |
| 18:41.25 | nsadmin | you could ls -lA /etc/skel to see them |
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| 18:42.25 | mparodi | no! it's zsh! |
| 18:42.33 | abrotman | ... |
| 18:42.33 | mparodi | I just chsh to bash and it works fine |
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| 18:42.41 | blubberdiblub | abrotman, don't know if you got my message. got disconnected. yes, i do have sockets in there. right now 2 created by dropbox |
| 18:42.41 | nsadmin | as long as you're seeing a problem in your PATH, could you say exactly what that problem is? |
| 18:42.42 | mparodi | but .zshrc doesn't say anything about PATH |
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| 18:43.07 | abrotman | blubberdiblub: right, i don't use dropbox .. and that's not your WM/DE |
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| 18:43.35 | blubberdiblub | abrotman, i know. but i used to have sockets and/or pipes in there related to the DE |
| 18:43.50 | blubberdiblub | i'm just saying to watch out for that |
| 18:43.52 | mparodi | nsadmin, [root@localhost:~]# echo $PATH -> /usr/bin:/bin |
| 18:44.26 | mparodi | that just happens from zsh ^ |
| 18:44.26 | nsadmin | ahh, and same path as plain user? |
| 18:44.42 | abrotman | blubberdiblub: dont' think it'd cause grep to go bananas |
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| 18:45.10 | blubberdiblub | abrotman, not bananas, but hang indefinitely. had that often enough ;) |
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| 18:45.35 | mparodi | nsadmin, yep, same with plain user if the default shell is zsh |
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| 18:45.45 | nsadmin | got it |
| 18:46.04 | mparodi | any idea? |
| 18:46.31 | abrotman | blubberdiblub: never had that happen, done it often enough |
| 18:47.01 | blubberdiblub | abrotman, hehe, alright. maybe i just use an unlucky combination of stuff ;) |
| 18:47.20 | abrotman | mparodi: is there a /etc/zshrc ? |
| 18:47.43 | mparodi | nop |
| 18:47.46 | nsadmin | well pbviously that's zsh's default... you'd put a path setting into root's .zshrc and a different one (maybe) into user's path |
| 18:48.05 | nsadmin | err into user's .zshrc |
| 18:48.18 | tharkun | This is embarassing, I got into this editor that is supposed to be the default that mutt has on debian. 1) anyone knows its name? 2) How do I :q! ? |
| 18:48.33 | nsadmin | and, you can also alter /etc/skel/.zshrc accordingly |
| 18:48.36 | abrotman | tharkun: hit 'esc', type :q! |
| 18:48.45 | tharkun | abrotman: It ain't vim |
| 18:48.52 | mparodi | there's one in /etc/zsh/zshrc |
| 18:48.55 | abrotman | tharkun: nano ? |
| 18:49.03 | mparodi | but it doesn't say anything about PATH |
| 18:49.06 | tharkun | little menu at the bottom? |
| 18:49.17 | abrotman | tharkun: probably has an option to write or quit |
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| 18:49.35 | LtL | tharkun: try ^x-c |
| 18:49.45 | LtL | if its emacs |
| 18:50.09 | tharkun | LtL: no, I only install one OS per machine. This one runs linux :) |
| 18:50.18 | blubberdiblub | Ctrl-X and then answer the questions? |
| 18:51.06 | tharkun | blubberdiblub: Thanks I saw the question now, Didn't realize it was that. |
| 18:51.21 | nsadmin | well emacs is ^X-^C |
| 18:51.32 | blubberdiblub | so it was actually nano |
| 18:51.56 | tharkun | Will debian break if I uninstall it? |
| 18:52.17 | nsadmin | if you uninstall... debian? |
| 18:52.22 | blubberdiblub | tharkun, you might be able to change the default editor by using EDITOR= and/or VISUAL= env vars |
| 18:52.25 | nsadmin | never tried :) |
| 18:52.43 | abrotman | tharkun: if you don't want emacs, uninstall it |
| 18:52.46 | abrotman | oh |
| 18:52.47 | blubberdiblub | tharkun, i usually uninstall nano when i've installed the editor of my choice |
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| 18:53.33 | tharkun | blubberdiblub: nano is gone. The internets is a friendlier place now :) |
| 18:53.42 | abrotman | did you install another editor ? |
| 18:54.02 | tharkun | abrotman: hmm vim-tiny is also installed by default : |
| 18:54.17 | tharkun | Yes, I installe vim |
| 18:55.09 | blubberdiblub | i think most editor packages put an editor alternative in place |
| 18:55.39 | blubberdiblub | i'm refering to /etc/alternatives/ |
| 18:55.41 | tharkun | emacs doesn't :) It would need to replace the OS just for that ;P |
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| 18:57.15 | nsadmin | tharkun, what does mutt do now that nano is gone? (btw, nano is pretty easy to figure out, in case you encounter it again) |
| 18:57.49 | tharkun | nsadmin: the right version of vim is actually used and it works flawlessly. As expected |
| 18:57.57 | blubberdiblub | mutt probably uses the editor alternativ, so i guess he gets the installed editor with the highest priority in alternatives |
| 18:58.04 | nsadmin | ok, great :) |
| 18:58.33 | abrotman | update-alternatives --config editor |
| 18:59.20 | blubberdiblub | yes, and the aforementioned env vars for other programs that don't use the generic bin that goes through alternatives |
| 19:00.44 | tharkun | there is a column named Status when update-alternatives is used, what does that mean? there is an auto mode and a few manual modes? |
| 19:02.08 | blubberdiblub | auto is when it automatically selects the alternative with highest priority |
| 19:02.21 | blubberdiblub | manual is when you set the alternative you want explicitly yourself |
| 19:02.28 | blubberdiblub | it ignores the priority in manual mode |
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| 19:03.07 | cyrinux | hi |
| 19:03.59 | cyrinux | anybody success on a advanced partition with lvm and several with debian d-i preseed ? |
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| 19:05.55 | tharkun | blubberdiblub: thanks, it should make sense but it is not behaving like that. When I figure out how it is working I'll ask the relevant questions. |
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| 19:08.09 | blubberdiblub | tharkun, it might not work for every program calling an editor if the program doesn't call /usr/bin/editor (which points to the alternative). you might have to set the environment variables for such programs |
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| 19:09.22 | nsadmin | cyrinux, hi, what's an advanced partition? |
| 19:10.22 | nsadmin | cyrinux, one thing you can look into for automated installs, is fai |
| 19:10.58 | wjtaylor | Why doesn't Ubuntu Additional drivers recognise my sudo passwd? |
| 19:11.22 | nsadmin | wjtaylor, dunno... I run debian |
| 19:11.44 | wjtaylor | I do but debian is giving me crap right now... so I moved to ubuntu... |
| 19:11.52 | wjtaylor | I just can't win |
| 19:12.32 | wjtaylor | seriosly, it's the vbox drivers... I use this crap all the time... why today is it not working... |
| 19:12.38 | nsadmin | not as long as you train your brain to "can't win"... long as you do that, your brain will do that for you very efficiently |
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| 19:13.51 | wjtaylor | I hear you... I actually cancelled out and then it worked... ??? go figure |
| 19:14.09 | wjtaylor | So my passwd is wrong and I cancel out then it installs... odd |
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| 19:14.26 | wjtaylor | anyways, if you know deb, can you help me with a webcam? |
| 19:14.45 | nsadmin | you may have to set your passwd later when you reboot into your system |
| 19:15.07 | wjtaylor | Oh damn... sorry I'm a total dbag. I thought I was in Ubuntu |
| 19:15.14 | wjtaylor | channel. Sorry if I'm an arse |
| 19:15.41 | nsadmin | no, and I won't be playing cop to punish you for it, you'll just have to do that yourself :) |
| 19:15.51 | mrtn8686 | Am I correct that only CD1 contains the kernel? Either hurd, FreeBSD or Linux? All other CD's contain only user software and are ranked based on most popular? |
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| 19:17.31 | nsadmin | only? I dunno, but, it does, and is bootable into installer (also on cd 1) |
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| 19:18.03 | nsadmin | mrtn8686, I think most of that is correct |
| 19:18.04 | blubberdiblub | the ranking goes into it, but it's not the sole thing for the decisions. AFAIRC, they put kde and gnome each onto one of the disks |
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| 19:23.38 | cyrinux | hi nsadmin, i know fai, never test, but i just want to be able to partition my system like I want with a preseed, a partman_early/late tweak :(, I need to create 2 VG, and somes LV inside, but with preseed i'm able to only define ONE VG . :( |
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| 19:38.07 | wjtaylor | ok. I see my camera via lsusb. Should I see it (pr some entry) in /dev? |
| 19:38.50 | maher | i'm trying to get courier authdaemon to use pam_tally2 - I've added a line to /etc/pam.d/common-auth but failed logins to the imap-sll thingy aren't being logged - any suggestions? |
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| 19:55.21 | wjtaylor | If I see a device with lsusb, is it recognized at the driver leve? Or does that just mean the OS can see the USB ID? |
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| 19:55.44 | wjtaylor | ^^ driver level ^^ |
| 19:59.48 | ManoftheSea | wjtaylor: likely, if it can identify the device, there's something to talk to it. |
| 20:00.00 | ManoftheSea | But no, you would confirm with lsmod, and check that the module is loaded. |
| 20:02.01 | wjtaylor | what's the difference between lsmod and modprobe? |
| 20:02.26 | hfuist_ | wjtaylor: run both with --help |
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| 20:02.52 | wjtaylor | touche! |
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| 20:07.17 | ManoftheSea | wjtaylor: "ls""mod" will list modules. |
| 20:07.24 | ManoftheSea | modprobe will install them. |
| 20:08.14 | wjtaylor | so lsmod shows no module loaded for my camera (QuickCam Express), there is a source package for the kernel mod. I'll build unless I should look somewhere else for a binary? |
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| 20:13.29 | ManoftheSea | wjtaylor: that sounds correct. |
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| 20:19.24 | raden | how do i make it so everything that goes in a folder is 755 permissions ? |
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| 20:23.15 | raden | umask? |
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| 20:27.56 | doomster | good evening! |
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| 20:31.16 | doomster | I'm installing on an intel atom 2700 system, which has a 64-bit CPU. Now, is i386, ia64 or amd64 the correct architecture? |
| 20:31.52 | blubberdiblub | doomster, amd64 |
| 20:31.55 | engla | amd64. (is for x86-64) |
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| 20:32.33 | ManoftheSea | doomster: you can also use i386. |
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| 20:32.46 | blubberdiblub | you could use i386 as well, but that would be a step backward, so in any normal cases you probably wouldn't want that |
| 20:33.25 | ManoftheSea | if you have fewer than 4GB memory, you probably won't notice the difference. |
| 20:34.01 | blubberdiblub | i wouldn't recommend it anyway if you have the possibility to use amd64 |
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| 20:34.31 | doomster | hmmm... |
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| 20:36.15 | doomster | okay, the system doesn't even have 4 GiB of RAM and that's also the maximum it supports. Now, add as another detail that it has an NVidia graphics adapter, does the support for this differ between amd64 and i386? |
| 20:36.35 | ManoftheSea | doomster: nah, the nvidia blob is just as bad in both cases. |
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| 20:37.00 | blubberdiblub | my nvidia graphics run fine on 64 bit. that's on desktop machines here, tho |
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| 20:38.01 | blubberdiblub | and i'm using the debianized nvidia drivers, of course |
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| 20:38.52 | doomster | package "nvidia-kernel-*" and that? |
| 20:39.05 | blubberdiblub | glx |
| 20:39.06 | blubberdiblub | etc. |
| 20:39.25 | blubberdiblub | dkms |
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| 20:40.04 | blubberdiblub | yup, pretty much all the important nvidia related packages |
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| 20:42.42 | doomster | installing on this, btw: http://www.zotac.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_images-SRW.tpl&product_id=431&category_id=171&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=100295 |
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| 20:44.11 | bbqgates | This is a networking question. I have three computers. The first with an eth interface and internet. The second with two eth interfaces and no internet. The third with one eth interface and no internet. I have the first and second computers linked together through their eth interfaces and computer 2 is able to use computer 1's internet connection. Now I would like to link computer 3 via computer 2's second eth inte |
| 20:44.13 | bbqgates | rface, so it too can use computer 1's internet. I have statically set computer 2's second eth interface and computer 1's eth interface properly, and I've allowed ipv4 forwarding and set masquerading on computer 2's second eth, but computer 3 is unable to get through to computer 1's internet connection. Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? Thanks |
| 20:45.11 | hfuist_ | bbqgates: when you have to post that much please consider using a pastebin like paste.debian.net and referencing to it |
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| 20:45.24 | nsadmin | hmm, that zotac page looks like expensive advertising... copy, pretty brosure page, etc |
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| 20:45.32 | bbqgates | sorry hfuist_ |
| 20:45.32 | nathanhi | g'day \o/ |
| 20:45.55 | nsadmin | gday too |
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| 20:47.00 | blubberdiblub | doomster, don't forget the vdpau libraries if you actually want to use it as HTPC |
| 20:49.08 | doomster | blubberdiblub: this looks interesting, not only for HTPCs |
| 20:49.31 | doomster | I intend to use this as desktop system, btw, not as HTPC. |
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| 20:50.09 | blubberdiblub | well, i guess video playback/decoding is pretty much the only application of vdpau |
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| 20:51.01 | john_the_underta | Hello. |
| 20:51.24 | doomster | well, watching movies happens on my desktop system, too. :) |
| 20:51.32 | john_the_underta | If I am told to compile the source files for a game (that has .c and .h files in the /src directory), how should I do this? |
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| 20:52.00 | john_the_underta | There are several Makefile files in the folder |
| 20:52.10 | john_the_underta | They have a variety of endings |
| 20:52.17 | boudiccas | whats the command to clear the rules in an iptables firewall please? i wish to reset to teh defaults |
| 20:52.27 | doomster | john_the_underta: 'make -f Makefile.foo' |
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| 20:53.22 | doomster | john_the_underta: just pick one that sounds reasonable |
| 20:53.32 | blubberdiblub | boudiccas, the -F flag, but look out for the default targets first before flushing uncondidionally |
| 20:53.47 | boudiccas | blubberdiblub: thanks |
| 20:54.06 | blubberdiblub | boudiccas, oh, and you might have to apply -F to each table. just an unadorned -F only affects the filter table |
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| 20:56.19 | blubberdiblub | (you can easily lock out yourself if your default targets are DROP or REJECT and you flush (thus removing all rules that let you in in the first place) |
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| 21:01.13 | abrotman | john_the_underta: doesn't it have an INSTALL document or README ? |
| 21:02.01 | john_the_underta | abrotman: I just found it. |
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| 21:06.56 | bbqgates | I probably have to route the two eth interfaces together somehow, right? |
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| 21:08.15 | doomster | bbqgates: you can't connect them all three via a switch, can you? That would be the easiest way that comes to my mind... |
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| 21:09.18 | bbqgates | no... unfortunately I'm "switchless" doomster |
| 21:09.20 | blubberdiblub | bbqgates, you can use ethernet bridging on the box with 2 interfaces. it's actually not too difficult |
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| 21:09.54 | bbqgates | blubberdiblub... ok how do I do that? |
| 21:10.30 | blubberdiblub | bbqgates, first install bridge-utils package |
| 21:11.34 | blubberdiblub | bbqgates, oh, do you use the networking init scripts to set up your networking or do you use networkmanager? |
| 21:12.27 | bbqgates | ok bridge-utils are installed.... I just use the /etc/networking/interfaces file.. |
| 21:12.35 | blubberdiblub | thats good :) |
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| 21:13.28 | bbqgates | ok... I found this page http://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections |
| 21:13.32 | blubberdiblub | bbqgates, now edit the interfaces file |
| 21:13.35 | bbqgates | ok |
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| 21:14.02 | knyn | Hi, whenever I play a game on Linux, I sometimes get short bursts of lag and frame skipping sometimes. This doesn't happen on Windows. Know what it could be? I have an ATI Radeon 6290 HD graphics card... |
| 21:14.27 | blubberdiblub | bbqgates, replace your eth0 entry with br0. add some lines under the iface br0 section |
| 21:14.43 | blubberdiblub | bbqgates, notably: bridge_ports eth0 eth1 |
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| 21:15.00 | nsadmin | if you install bridgeutils, does it make a bridge? and. based on what |
| 21:15.01 | nsadmin | ? |
| 21:15.05 | inzane | knyn, i recommend nvidia gtx series, but i have no idea if that's your problem |
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| 21:15.12 | blubberdiblub | nsadmin, no, you have to make the bridges yourself |
| 21:15.31 | knyn | inzane: What? ... |
| 21:15.50 | abrotman | knyn: ignore him .. it wasn't going to help you |
| 21:16.05 | inzane | knyn, i'm just commenting that nvidia gtx graphics cards are better, as far as i know. sorry, i'm not answering your question, just commenting |
| 21:16.10 | abrotman | .... |
| 21:16.16 | abrotman | inzane: that does not help in anyway |
| 21:16.17 | abrotman | any way |
| 21:16.19 | knyn | inzane: Okay, thanks for that? |
| 21:16.21 | blubberdiblub | bbqgates, you can reduce the fd time, to speed up booting and optionally enable stp if you need that. make sure that if there are entries in interfaces for eth1, to remove them (or at least set it onto manual) |
| 21:16.29 | abrotman | knyn: are you using radeon or fglrx ? |
| 21:16.48 | knyn | abrotman: Radeon. |
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| 21:16.50 | blubberdiblub | bbqgates, i can give you my interfaces file as example, but i don't use dhcp. will work with dhcp, too, tho |
| 21:17.17 | abrotman | knyn: what is 'uname -r' ? |
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| 21:17.48 | knyn | abrotman: "2.6.32-279.5.2.el6.x86_64" |
| 21:18.10 | bbqgates | blubberdiblub... I have my eth's statically set... When I go to enter the 'bridge_ports eth0 eth1' line, does it matter what order I put them in? Technically my Eth1 is the connection to the internet and eth0 is the connection to the third computer. |
| 21:18.30 | blubberdiblub | bbqgates, http://paste.debian.net/185605/ |
| 21:18.35 | bbqgates | is 'bridge_ports eth1 eth0' and 'bridge_ports eth0 eth1' the same? |
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| 21:18.39 | bbqgates | ok thanks blubberdiblub |
| 21:18.42 | boudiccas | blubberdiblub: i did sudo iptables -F which completely nuked my iptables firewall, but then found that nothing at all was incoming, so had to quickly reinstate it so that i could get back online again! thanks for your help :) |
| 21:18.42 | abrotman | knyn: why are you asking here? |
| 21:18.44 | blubberdiblub | bbqgates, the order is irrelevant |
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| 21:18.55 | bbqgates | blubberdiblub, ah ok thanks |
| 21:19.02 | knyn | abrotman: Because I will get better support here... |
| 21:19.04 | abrotman | knyn: that's a RH box ? |
| 21:19.17 | blubberdiblub | bbqgates, your box with 2 interfaces will act like a network switch when employing bridging ;) |
| 21:19.20 | abrotman | knyn: this channel is for Debian support, perhaps try ##linux |
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| 21:19.47 | knyn | abrotman: Okay, it's just some channels really aren't very helpful. |
| 21:20.09 | blubberdiblub | boudiccas, yeah, that probably was because the targets were set to DROP or REJECT. set them all to ACCEPT first before flushing |
| 21:20.17 | boudiccas | knyn: sorry, not our problem, but then find one that is helpful to you and stick with it |
| 21:20.18 | abrotman | knyn: that's great, but this channel is still for Debian support |
| 21:20.42 | knyn | Okay... |
| 21:20.49 | knyn | Still get this error on Debian though. |
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| 21:21.21 | nsadmin | knyn, one thing to notice is you would get answers which are targeted to debian, and they might not work for other oses |
| 21:21.28 | blubberdiblub | bbqgates, with the new config in place, do something like "ifdown eth0 ; ifdown eth1 ; /etc/init.d/networking restart" |
| 21:21.41 | abrotman | knyn: so install Debian, then come back |
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| 21:21.50 | knyn | nsadmin: I understand that. |
| 21:22.10 | nsadmin | cool :) did you say you have a debian in another machine? |
| 21:22.23 | ManoftheSea | isn't there an rhel channel? |
| 21:22.28 | abrotman | yes, #rhel |
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| 21:22.44 | abrotman | i think you have to be registered |
| 21:22.54 | ManoftheSea | abrotman: that was rhetorical. |
| 21:23.11 | abrotman | ManoftheSea: you'd be surprised how often people can't find an appropriate channel |
| 21:24.03 | inzane | knyn, what linux are you using? |
| 21:24.09 | abrotman | it's offtopic here |
| 21:24.17 | abrotman | we already deteremined it's not Debian |
| 21:24.24 | knyn | inzane: CentOS... :P |
| 21:24.31 | inzane | abrotman, just by the uname -r ? |
| 21:24.34 | abrotman | knyn: good luck in #centos |
| 21:24.43 | ManoftheSea | inzane: note the "el6" |
| 21:24.44 | knyn | abrotman: Thank you. :D |
| 21:24.45 | abrotman | inzane: it's clearly not Debian, end of discussion |
| 21:25.06 | nsadmin | inzane, yep. that kernel is not debian distributed |
| 21:25.10 | inzane | abrotman, didn't know el6 was centos. ok. |
| 21:25.28 | abrotman | okay, conversation over then :) |
| 21:25.44 | ManoftheSea | though, my kernel is Linux fermion 3.5.2tresor+ #7 SMP Thu Aug 16 09:15:44 EDT 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 21:26.03 | ManoftheSea | Does that mean I wouldn't be able to get any help? Or just not kernel related help? |
| 21:26.11 | abrotman | move along .. |
| 21:26.19 | nsadmin | did you build it yourself? |
| 21:26.28 | ManoftheSea | This one, yes. The rest of the system is debian. |
| 21:26.33 | ManoftheSea | I wouldn't expect kernel-help |
| 21:26.47 | ManoftheSea | The solution to that is simple: Use the debian provided one. |
| 21:27.50 | nsadmin | maybe you could get help even on the kernel if someone here is knowledgable and kind enough to offer. as for the rest, there -could- be issues, and it's possible you may be asked to try the debian kernel, depending on what comes up |
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| 21:28.45 | ManoftheSea | nsadmin: I would expect to ask for kernel help from #linux. Additionally, the "tresor" is a self-applied patch. That's all on me, and generous souls in linux. |
| 21:28.57 | ManoftheSea | right? That's the correct split of topic? |
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| 21:29.22 | abrotman | ManoftheSea: it's just that if you complain about X, you may be required to prove that X still happens using a Debian-packaged kernel |
| 21:29.28 | nsadmin | probably so, maybe with exceptions as noted |
| 21:29.32 | abrotman | assuming it could be a kernel problem |
| 21:29.37 | ManoftheSea | ok. Thanks for the education. |
| 21:29.47 | abrotman | if your robotfindskitten doesn't work, probably not kernel related |
| 21:30.02 | ManoftheSea | that's fair and meshes with my expectation. |
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| 21:48.26 | bbqgates | blubberdiblub... In your '/etc/network/interfaces' file you don't have any eths listed... so basically you delete your eth configurations and just use the 'br' interface and the 'br' interface groups the two eths together right? |
| 21:49.25 | blubberdiblub | bbqgates, right. i should have paid more attention to your eth0/1 assignment, tho. use the config you had for eth1 for br0 now. i assumed eth0 being the uplink, but it wasn't, sorry ;) |
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| 21:51.06 | bbqgates | ah ok.... let me try that... thank blubberdiblub |
| 21:51.12 | bbqgates | edit: thanks |
| 21:51.16 | blubberdiblub | bbqgates, ethernet bridging make a full ethernet switch out of your two (or more) interfaces. probably the only difference is that your software bridge can't do the optimizations to the data flow a hardware switch can do ;) |
| 21:52.08 | bbqgates | ok |
| 21:53.11 | blubberdiblub | bbqgates, with the new config in place, do something like "ifdown eth0 ; ifdown eth1 ; /etc/init.d/networking restart" |
| 21:53.54 | bbqgates | ah ok... bring down the eths first... got it :) |
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| 21:55.07 | bbqgates | also can't I just specify the dns-nameservers in '/etc/resolv.conf'... or is there a benefit to listing them in the interfaces file? |
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| 21:56.03 | blubberdiblub | bbqgates, the benefit is it's interface specific. if you have multiple interfaces, only the ones of the interfaces that are actually up show up in resolv.conf. only works with resolvconf package or similar in place, tho |
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| 21:56.54 | \Jan | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:56.58 | bbqgates | ah ok |
| 21:57.20 | \Jan | according to /proc/interrupts, this is ehci_hcd:usb1 |
| 21:57.35 | \Jan | so does this mean I won't be able to use one of my USB ports or something? |
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| 21:57.55 | blubberdiblub | bbqgates, and it's also a good thing semantically. the nameserver is something that's associated with a network segment, semantically, not with the networking of the box on a global base |
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| 21:58.14 | \Jan | I don't completely understand IRQs or what disabling them would do |
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| 22:00.12 | blubberdiblub | bbqgates, and yes, you can go with the /etc/resolv.conf way (and actually must if you don't want to use resolvconf or equivalent) |
| 22:00.36 | bbqgates | blubberdiblub... ok I see what you're saying |
| 22:01.09 | bbqgates | connection going down... back in a bit |
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| 22:03.30 | Probeus | I would like to set up my "old"computer as a VPS-server. What should i install in the bottom if i want to virtualize mainly linux machines? |
| 22:03.58 | ManoftheSea | "install in the bottom"? |
| 22:04.04 | ManoftheSea | Debian, of course. |
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| 22:04.27 | Probeus | like, what software should i use to maintain the virtual servers. Vmware, hyperv, etc. |
| 22:04.44 | ManoftheSea | Probeus: which one do you know. |
| 22:04.53 | ManoftheSea | Also... not hyperv. Too expensive for you. |
| 22:05.24 | blubberdiblub | consider an approach with containers, too, Probeus. might be better performance wise if your resources are limited. depends on what exactly you want to achieve, tho |
| 22:05.26 | Probeus | i have a MSDNAA license on it :) but i havent used it before. Have used some WMvare workstation before but no Vsphere |
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| 22:07.12 | Probeus | The purpose will be to seperate the machine into multiple virtual ones. One would be used for my personal webserver etc. and one would be used for a minecraft-server that i would like to host |
| 22:07.15 | ManoftheSea | blubberdiblub: you can use KVM, systemd, or chroots for "vm-like" containers |
| 22:07.35 | ManoftheSea | Probeus: are you seperating services for security reasons? |
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| 22:08.06 | Probeus | ManoftheSea: You could say so. Other users will have access to the minecraft-server, but i wouldnt like them having access to my private webserver etc. |
| 22:08.12 | blubberdiblub | ManoftheSea, KVM is not really a container-approach, tho, if i'm not mistaken. i meant lxc, OpenVZ oder linux-vserver |
| 22:08.22 | blubberdiblub | or |
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| 22:09.32 | ManoftheSea | blubberdiblub: oh. Sorry man. yes, lxc was what I was thinking of. |
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| 22:10.58 | blubberdiblub | a container approach most probably suffices for isolating a (or many) minecraft server instance |
| 22:11.55 | ortix | for some reason when I try to print something to file using STDERR (2>>) every new line is printed as ^M and the line is just appended |
| 22:12.07 | ortix | could this be software related or am I doing something wrong? |
| 22:12.40 | Probeus | hmm. ill take a look at lxc ;) |
| 22:12.52 | ortix | plowup --printf="%f%t%u" turbobit transmission.deb >> urls.txt 2>> debug.txt is what i'm doing |
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| 22:13.39 | ManoftheSea | ortix: are you opening it in wordpad? |
| 22:14.41 | ortix | no nano' |
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| 22:14.58 | ortix | ManoftheSea: no nano |
| 22:15.15 | ManoftheSea | I got nothing. |
| 22:15.29 | ortix | feelsbatman.jpg |
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| 22:18.26 | ortix | wow this is hawkward.. it opens perfectly fine in a browser |
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| 22:25.51 | ChrisW | hi all, looking to replace a 256GB ext3-formatted drive in my debian box with a 512GB SSD |
| 22:26.13 | ChrisW | what filesystem should I use and how can I clone the old disk onto the new disk? |
| 22:29.06 | cob | it'd use ext4, and you can do a cp -a, but probably best boot a live usb disk to do it :) |
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| 22:30.31 | ChrisW | cob: this is the system boot disk |
| 22:30.39 | ChrisW | is ext4 okay to use now? |
| 22:30.46 | zinx | it's been ok to use for a while |
| 22:31.04 | Probeus | I feel pretty nooby now, but what architecture of debian should i use for a i7 processor? |
| 22:31.12 | ChrisW | x64 |
| 22:31.13 | zinx | Probeus: amd64 |
| 22:31.20 | Probeus | thanks :) |
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| 22:32.31 | blubberdiblub | ChrisW, ext4 is a good choice, even for SSDs. don't worry about it |
| 22:32.35 | ChrisW | okay, so I have the single 256GB disk in my machine, ext3 formatted |
| 22:33.00 | ChrisW | how do I get everything-on-it-even-the-boot-sector over to the new 215GB drive, ext4 formatted? |
| 22:33.15 | cob | i think you can't |
| 22:33.25 | zinx | ChrisW: dd, mount as ext4 |
| 22:33.38 | zinx | ChrisW: well, perhaps with a resize first |
| 22:33.56 | blubberdiblub | or afterwards |
| 22:34.03 | ChrisW | there a step-by-step guide for an idiot like me around anywhere? |
| 22:34.13 | zinx | ChrisW: probably, but i am too lazy to google it |
| 22:34.31 | ChrisW | won't dd just copy the whole file system? (so, keeping it 256GB in ext3) |
| 22:34.46 | cob | yes, it'll keep it ext3, you' |
| 22:34.51 | blubberdiblub | ChrisW, yes, but that's why zinx mentioned the resize |
| 22:35.03 | cob | need to do some magic with ported or whatever the tools is these days |
| 22:35.30 | ChrisW | okay, but I want it ext4, right? |
| 22:35.54 | blubberdiblub | you can convert it to ext4 |
| 22:35.56 | ChrisW | so, a dd copy will give me a 256GB, ext3 formatted thing on the new disk |
| 22:36.05 | ChrisW | I then convert it to ext4 and resize after that? |
| 22:36.29 | Radagast | any have any HURD news? still on target for release with Wheezy? |
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| 22:38.49 | blubberdiblub | ChrisW, or resize first and convert afterwards |
| 22:38.52 | cob | ChrisW: it might be simpler to just dd the MBR and make a partition |
| 22:38.59 | cob | then cp -a |
| 22:39.16 | ChrisW | blubberdiblub: *nods* |
| 22:39.31 | ChrisW | current gut feel is dd -> resize -> convert |
| 22:39.37 | ChrisW | sound like a plan? |
| 22:40.48 | blubberdiblub | you might have to reinstall/update the boot loader anyway, depending on the exact circumstances ... so you could also go the cp approach |
| 22:40.49 | ChrisW | if so, I assume parted is still the best way to resize? |
| 22:40.58 | cob | or... cp -r, remount everything, chroot and grub-install |
| 22:41.03 | ChrisW | why would the boot loader need to change? |
| 22:41.15 | mmnicolas | this is like the exact same conversation we had yesterday |
| 22:41.19 | cob | :D |
| 22:41.29 | ChrisW | mmnicolas: someone should write a nice shiny faq somewhere ;-) |
| 22:41.29 | cob | i've gone over it so many times myself :) |
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| 22:41.42 | mmnicolas | copy mbr, recreate partition table, rsync -PHAXphax |
| 22:42.16 | blubberdiblub | well, just copying the mbr might not suffice, depending on the exact circumstances, that was my point |
| 22:42.34 | mmnicolas | blubberdiblub: because of UUIDs ? |
| 22:42.44 | ChrisW | mmnicolas: why would that be better than dd -> resize -> convert? |
| 22:42.59 | mmnicolas | ChrisW: it would be faster |
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| 22:43.19 | blubberdiblub | might be one point. maybe he isn't using UUIDs, maybe grub refers to a wrong drive afterwards to read its modules from, etc. |
| 22:43.19 | ChrisW | mmnicolas: I'll take reliability over speed anyday... |
| 22:43.39 | mmnicolas | ChrisW: reliability isn't sacrificed |
| 22:43.41 | ChrisW | blubberdiblub: think I'm using UUIDs, not sure about for root partition though... |
| 22:43.54 | ChrisW | parted still good for resize? |
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| 22:45.17 | ChrisW | also, what's the "best" utility for converting ext3 to ext4? |
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| 22:45.21 | blubberdiblub | well, i'd go the cp approach onto a fresh partition. i'd only recommend transferring the partition directly if you're not comfortable with copying a whole system |
| 22:45.36 | blubberdiblub | you convert to ext4 with tune2fs, ChrisW |
| 22:45.36 | mmnicolas | how about a fresh install and copying your user folder ? |
| 22:46.10 | ChrisW | mmnicolas: er... it's a server, and there's stuff all over the place |
| 22:46.13 | blubberdiblub | tune2fs+e2fsck, to be exact |
| 22:46.36 | ChrisW | (jenkins slave, apache, couple of python-based app servers, bunch of batch processing things, postgres...) |
| 22:46.50 | ChrisW | blubberdiblub: thanks! |
| 22:47.03 | blubberdiblub | ChrisW, the conversion process is detailed here: https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto#Converting_an_ext3_filesystem_to_ext4 |
| 22:47.11 | ChrisW | awesome |
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| 22:50.18 | silverarrow | lost connection |
| 22:50.45 | blubberdiblub | ChrisW, oh, and you should probably align the target partition to the erase block size of the SSD for performance reasons |
| 22:51.12 | blubberdiblub | the start of the partition. the length doesn't matter |
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| 22:53.04 | silverarrow | doesn`t the installer take care of bootlaoder grub and all that? |
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| 22:53.36 | blubberdiblub | ChrisW, if you create the partition with sufficiently recent tools, those will probably take care of that, but it doesn't hurt checking afterwards |
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| 22:54.43 | ChrisW | blubberdiblub: cool, I'm on debian stable, so I guess it should be okay :-) |
| 22:54.56 | ChrisW | right, thanks hugely for the help, I need to get some sleep... |
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| 22:54.58 | silverarrow | at least the GUI installer |
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| 23:12.21 | tuvwx | where can i set PATH so it affects bash, zsh, and openbox? |
| 23:12.31 | tuvwx | and ssh sessions |
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| 23:26.53 | Shellies | hey |
| 23:27.31 | Shellies | I got a error when running apt-get upgrade on my VPS |
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| 23:28.27 | gry | what error? |
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| 23:36.12 | Shellies | Tried building Centos instead of Ubuntu but YUM would give errors, I then installed Debian and tried apt-get update & apt-get upgrade and I got this error: Setting up bind9utils (1:9.7.3.dfsg-1~squeeze6) ... Setting up bind9 (1:9.7.3.dfsg-1~squeeze6) ... # Starting domain name service...: bind9 failed! invoke-rc.d: initscript bind9, action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing bind9 (--configure): subprocess installed post-insta |
| 23:36.36 | Shellies | # Starting domain name service...: bind9 failed! invoke-rc.d: initscript bind9, action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing bind9 (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Setting up bind9-host (1:9.7.3.dfsg-1~squeeze6) ... configured to not write apport reports Setting up libexpat1 (2.0.1-7+squeeze1) ... Setting up expat (2.0.1-7+squeeze1) ... Errors were encountered while proce |
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| 23:37.03 | Shellies | in/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 23:37.21 | Shellies | I am starting to get very annoyed at this VPS gry :( |
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| 23:38.40 | Shellies | how to fix??? |
| 23:38.59 | Shellies | same error when installing bind |
| 23:39.01 | Shellies | bind9 |
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| 23:40.42 | Shellies | HELP |
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| 23:41.41 | MartinCleaver | how do I find out which package contains the "strings" command? |
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| 23:48.13 | nkuttler | !tell MartinCleaver about search |
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| 23:52.39 | MartinCleaver | Hmm. Thanks nkuttler --- so I tried aptitude search strings, and apt-cache search strings - neither tell me |
| 23:53.41 | MartinCleaver | ok http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587506 implies its binutils |
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| 23:54.02 | MartinCleaver | yup |
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| 23:55.07 | MartinCleaver | thanks again |
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| 23:59.40 | adrakoa | Hi |
