| 00:00.18 | jhutchins_lt2 | abrotman: Disk failed, I pulled a backup off the disk but there were a lot of read errors and it hangs during boot. |
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| 00:00.28 | abrotman | hangs doing what? |
| 00:01.09 | dondelelcaro | roboman2444: hotkeys might do that. (awesome actually shows the percentage itself, but I don't use openbox) |
| 00:01.22 | jhutchins_lt2 | Different places depending on which kernel (26/32) and whether normal or single user. |
| 00:01.39 | roboman2444 | thanks, i figured it |
| 00:01.56 | roboman2444 | `amixer -c 0 set Master 5- unmute |grep % | cut -d\ -f5 |xmessage -center -timeout 1 -buttons "" -file -` |
| 00:02.28 | abrotman | jhutchins_lt2: ideally, you'd get the system booting in some manner .. |
| 00:02.52 | jhutchins_lt2 | squeeze rescue |
| 00:03.04 | abrotman | i meant the system on the drive |
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| 00:03.27 | abrotman | alternately, you could use a liveCD and chroot into it and try that ? |
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| 00:05.17 | alg | how many people here actually cyber right now? :D |
| 00:05.22 | roboman2444 | hm? |
| 00:05.35 | jhutchins_lt2 | Yeah, going to try a standard upgrade from here. |
| 00:05.39 | alg | lol some horny people here :D |
| 00:05.45 | abrotman | alg: wrong channel |
| 00:06.06 | alg | I simply want advice about amazon |
| 00:06.09 | alg | :) |
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| 00:06.18 | qw12 | abrotman: i don't want to clean the file but do it like a circular buffer |
| 00:06.20 | abrotman | so straying further offtopic seems like a good idea? |
| 00:06.30 | alg | yess |
| 00:06.34 | abrotman | qw12: oh, you only wan tit to be 100 lines at all times ? |
| 00:06.40 | qw12 | abrotman: yes |
| 00:07.08 | abrotman | qw12: tail -n 100 log > tmp.log ; mv tmp.log log ? |
| 00:07.24 | alg | qw12 I told u already you can use chat roulette |
| 00:07.25 | alg | :) |
| 00:07.31 | abrotman | alg: last warning |
| 00:07.35 | qw12 | abrotman: cool |
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| 00:07.56 | alg | lol abrotman u got 0 leverage since you dont want to advice anyway |
| 00:08.11 | abrotman | alg: do you have something Debian related to discuss? |
| 00:08.16 | alg | yes |
| 00:08.41 | alg | whats the latest easy to use ready made EC2 ami with debian on EBS volume |
| 00:08.50 | alg | or some good howto |
| 00:09.02 | alg | ideally with tips how to make simple email server |
| 00:09.04 | jhutchins_lt2 | And off it goes. |
| 00:09.16 | abrotman | off meaning it works, or it shutdown ? |
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| 00:09.28 | jhutchins_lt2 | It is attempting an upgrade. |
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| 00:10.58 | jhutchins_lt2 | Slurping down files. We'll see what I end up with. Lots of locale errors and something about logging... |
| 00:11.20 | jhutchins_lt2 | Ok, bery strange, it's loaded the kde 3.5 desktop from squeeze. |
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| 00:16.10 | abrotman | jhutchins_lt2: squeeze has 4.x ? |
| 00:16.17 | jhutchins_lt2 | right. |
| 00:16.33 | jhutchins_lt2 | backports server appears to be down, it's still backports.debian.org isn't it? |
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| 00:17.26 | abrotman | yes |
| 00:18.22 | jhutchins_lt2 | loading, please wait... |
| 00:18.25 | jhutchins_lt2 | Crud. |
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| 00:19.01 | jhutchins_lt2 | grub install didn't. |
| 00:21.20 | jelly-home | uh, don't the upgrade insns tell to remove bpo before upgrading |
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| 00:22.27 | jhutchins_lt2 | Yes, they do, but I already finished the upgrade. |
| 00:23.26 | jhutchins_lt2 | Reinstalled the kernel, let's try again. |
| 00:24.40 | jhutchins_lt2 | grub's still looking for the bpo kernel. |
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| 00:26.44 | queso | I am installing debian testing on my machine. The installer is telling me it needs a non-free firmware file htc_9271.fw. Where do I download this and where do I put it on my flash drive so the installer can find it? |
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| 00:27.59 | Joelito | queso, there are ISO CDs with firmware included |
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| 00:28.33 | Joelito | non-free that is |
| 00:29.05 | queso | Joelito: I already burned the CD. |
| 00:29.22 | Joelito | burn another :) |
| 00:29.45 | queso | Joelito: Is it so difficult to just copy the file to my flash drive? |
| 00:30.39 | Joelito | queso, no, but I think is more *easy* burn a CD iso with non-free firmware included, but there's a wiki about your case |
| 00:31.22 | queso | Joelito: Link please? |
| 00:31.24 | Joelito | did you read this wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware |
| 00:31.56 | queso | Joelito: No, I will now. Thank you. |
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| 00:32.44 | Joelito | queso, are you using stable branch? |
| 00:33.52 | queso | Joelito: No, testing |
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| 00:34.03 | Joelito | oh |
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| 00:34.37 | aguitel | how to know nvidia version are in use in my system with command line ? |
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| 00:34.49 | Joelito | queso, oww, in case everything fails try a build iso cd with firmware: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
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| 00:36.19 | queso | Joelito: baah, I wish I knew about that before burning the disk. :) |
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| 00:37.00 | Joelito | hehehe, that's about linux, learning new things everyday :p |
| 00:38.38 | queso | Joelito: I'm downloading the firmware tarball. I'll throw that in the root of the flash drive. Assuming I can mount the thing. |
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| 00:43.09 | Joelito | queso, you according to links, the usb file system should be FAT |
| 00:44.01 | queso | Joelito: Yeah, I believe it is. Trying to figure out how to open a link in w3m right now so I can search on how to mount the flash drive. Ugh. |
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| 00:45.42 | Joelito | I think mount is installeb by now and should be able to read the usb |
| 00:46.41 | queso | Joelito: I have a CentOS server in the basement that has no gui. I need to figure out how to mount the flash drive here before putting it in the being-installed-still debian box. |
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| 00:47.35 | Joelito | oh, you need to know where was mounted the usb |
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| 00:47.59 | Joelito | something like /dev/sr1 |
| 00:48.04 | Joelito | I think |
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| 00:51.52 | queso | Joelito: Okay, got it copied. It was /dev/sdc1 on my machine :) |
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| 00:58.07 | qw12 | can anyone tell how to print all fields from 5-th field onwards using awk and print ? |
| 00:58.24 | zinx | perhaps use cut instead? |
| 00:59.35 | qw12 | zinx: ok, looking up cut, can you tell the command please ? |
| 01:00.27 | zinx | the command is 'cut', the options are in the manpage |
| 01:00.43 | qw12 | ok, thanks |
| 01:02.17 | qw12 | zinx: it is counting each space as one delimiter, how to make it use whitespace as delimiter |
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| 01:03.14 | zinx | qw12: no idea |
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| 01:05.26 | queso | I downloaded firmware.tar.gz, put it on my flash drive, and mounted the flash drive on the machine I'm installing debian testing on -- but it can't find it. Where am I supposed to put it so debian installer finds it? |
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| 01:12.15 | Rotaerk | hmm, how big should a /boot-only partition be |
| 01:12.47 | Rotaerk | this one tutorial suggests 250MB, but is that plenty, cutting it close, or not enough ... now |
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| 01:15.39 | choonming_ | Rotaerk, 250mb should be sufficient. the increase in size is due to all the older kernel files in there.. you might want to limit the number of kernels to keep in your grub config |
| 01:16.23 | Rotaerk | hmm k |
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| 01:19.08 | abrotman | Rotaerk: do you really need a separate /boot/ ? |
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| 01:20.10 | Rotaerk | abrotman: well, I'm considering a strategy where I have a small boot partition on my SSD, and then setup some logical volumes for root and home |
| 01:20.45 | Rotaerk | nevyn suggested a flashcache-based usage of the SSD, though I haven't figured out how that works yet |
| 01:24.28 | nevyn | heh |
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| 01:26.16 | nevyn | abrotman: can grub do raid on lvm boot now? |
| 01:26.22 | nevyn | lvm on md rather. |
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| 01:27.15 | abrotman | uhm, in wjeezy i think ? |
| 01:27.29 | Rotaerk | decided to stick with squeeze |
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| 01:28.47 | queso | On wiki.debina.org/Firmware it says "Before starting the installation process on hardware unfamiliar to you, a suggestion is to download the firmware tarball for your installation and have it available on removable storage. When the installer starts, it will automatically find the firmware tarball on the removable storage and, if needed, install the firmware for your hardware." But when I do this, have the removable USB stick plugge |
| 01:28.56 | Rotaerk | nevyn: what did you mean by "have the flashcache be of MD strides"? |
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| 01:30.13 | Rotaerk | also, should/can the volume group contain the md device, as opposed to the physical devices |
| 01:30.14 | revstray | Hi, is there a way to install php-mysql without the virtualpackage phpapi-20100525 which requires apache2 to get installed? I'm running nginx not apache2. the apt-get flags -m and -f don't help and it looks like --nodeps got dropped a long time ago. |
| 01:30.38 | nevyn | Rotaerk: so the way the whole stack works is. |
| 01:30.52 | nevyn | the short answer is yesish. |
| 01:30.57 | Rotaerk | heh |
| 01:31.11 | nevyn | if you're going to use flashdisk. the vg contains a pv which is the flashcache device |
| 01:31.15 | revstray | I've scoured the forums, packagemanagement wiki entries and coming up sad. |
| 01:31.18 | nevyn | flashcache not flashdisk |
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| 01:32.10 | Hereisanotherlie | I made a file at /etc/apache2/sites-available/mysubdomain.example.com containing my virtual host info (copied using another file as a template ) and ran a2ensite mysubdomain.example.com and I got a message saying that I enabled the subdomain. I restarted apache2 and I wasn't able to access the subdomain |
| 01:32.18 | nevyn | so you have phsyical spinning disks (/dev/sda and /dev/sdb) raided with md (linux soft raid) accelerated with flashcache on /dev/sdc which provides /dev/mapper/flashcache which is what lvm uses |
| 01:32.26 | nevyn | and then have multiple lv's |
| 01:32.52 | Hereisanotherlie | pwd |
| 01:32.57 | Hereisanotherlie | whoops :) |
| 01:33.08 | Odd0002 | I'm thinking about switching to debian |
| 01:33.34 | Rotaerk | nevyn: ahh, so the "flashcache device" is going to be the size not of the physical device serving as the cache but of the device that's being cached, i.e. of the MD device |
| 01:33.49 | Rotaerk | I think I understand the stack now |
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| 01:34.41 | nevyn | right. |
| 01:34.44 | Rotaerk | though seems like that'll be a pain to setup |
| 01:34.55 | Odd0002 | anyone here built weston/wayland on debian? |
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| 01:35.12 | Rotaerk | because the debian installer can setup the md and the lvm |
| 01:35.23 | Rotaerk | and somehow I need to get in between them and add flashcache |
| 01:35.41 | nevyn | but you can do that much later. |
| 01:35.46 | Odd0002 | anyone? |
| 01:36.01 | nevyn | so the way I'd do this. is do flashcache after installing. |
| 01:36.28 | Hereisanotherlie | anyone familiar with a2ensite? |
| 01:36.41 | Rotaerk | install on the MD device, not the SSD? |
| 01:36.51 | nevyn | Rotaerk: yep |
| 01:36.58 | Rotaerk | so that the SSD is free to setup with flashcache later |
| 01:37.05 | abrotman | Odd0002: surely someone has |
| 01:37.11 | nevyn | if you really want to put /boot on the ssd |
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| 01:37.27 | Odd0002 | what were their results then? |
| 01:37.29 | nevyn | or make it a seperate md on the disks. |
| 01:37.45 | nevyn | booting from lvm on md might be eh. |
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| 01:38.25 | abrotman | Odd0002: http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/wayland .. apparently not so bad |
| 01:38.30 | Rotaerk | I think I'd prefer booting from SSD not only because it's an SSD but because that's the only one currently in the motherboard ports recommended for boot the drives |
| 01:38.40 | Odd0002 | abrotman: thanks |
| 01:39.08 | Rotaerk | err for the boot drives |
| 01:39.49 | revstray | anyone know if there is a package managers channel? |
| 01:39.54 | Rotaerk | nevyn: your language suggests you're giving me the option to setup boot on the SSD, but you're not a fan of it |
| 01:39.55 | Rotaerk | why? |
| 01:40.05 | Rotaerk | is there a downside to this |
| 01:40.44 | nevyn | Rotaerk: It optimises something I don't care about. |
| 01:41.05 | nevyn | in that booting systems is something that happens when I upgrade kernels in my world |
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| 01:44.37 | Rotaerk | nevyn: I was thinking maybe the cache volume should have some kind of alignment with the cached volume |
| 01:45.58 | nevyn | correct. |
| 01:46.06 | nevyn | that's what I was saying about MD stride |
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| 01:46.41 | nevyn | so the smallest block that the kernel will read from a MD is chunksize. |
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| 01:48.00 | Rotaerk | nevyn: so the size of the flashcache should be a multiple of the stride of the MD |
| 01:48.15 | nevyn | no.. |
| 01:48.21 | Rotaerk | oh, chunksize of the flashcache itself |
| 01:48.24 | nevyn | no. |
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| 01:50.41 | nevyn | https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID_setup |
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| 01:53.39 | Rotaerk | hmm misunderstood chunk size earlier |
| 01:54.39 | nevyn | so the flashcache should be configured to match or be a multiple of the sizeof(md block) |
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| 01:54.52 | nevyn | does that make senes? |
| 01:54.56 | nevyn | sense even |
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| 01:56.06 | Rotaerk | nevyn: if block is synonymous with chunk, I don't see how that's different from what I said earlier |
| 01:56.16 | Rotaerk | stride size is synonymous with chunk size |
| 01:56.26 | Rotaerk | at least, according to that page |
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| 01:57.24 | nevyn | on raid1 it is. |
| 01:57.34 | nevyn | a stride is multiple chunks. |
| 01:57.39 | Rotaerk | ah |
| 01:57.46 | Rotaerk | k |
| 01:57.48 | nevyn | on raid5 |
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| 01:58.12 | Rotaerk | well raid1 is what I had in mind (since I don't plan on following the policy you use on your server) |
| 01:58.16 | nevyn | for ndevices stride is chunk x numdevices |
| 01:58.17 | nevyn | heh |
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| 01:58.41 | Rotaerk | I see |
| 02:01.03 | nevyn | so chunk size is a tradeoff. between best utilisation efficiency (smaller chunks) and best performance (larger chunks) |
| 02:01.11 | nevyn | but it also depends on the workload |
| 02:01.38 | nevyn | if you're storing mostly movies and big things (larger than a megabyte) bigger chunks are better (also bigger filesystem blocks) |
| 02:02.32 | nevyn | if you're storing mostly small things (millions of small files) where small is single digit kilobytes smaller chunks is better. |
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| 02:03.25 | Rotaerk | nevyn: makes sense |
| 02:03.41 | Rotaerk | hard to say for sure where my usage falls in that spectrum |
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| 02:09.20 | nevyn | Rotaerk: I'd be inclined to go larger on modern systems |
| 02:09.22 | NotJimCarrey | can someone please help me, i have a fresh debian install and can't for the life of get the nvidia drivers to install |
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| 02:09.37 | nevyn | NotJimCarrey: how are you trying to install them? |
| 02:09.50 | NotJimCarrey | binary from nvidia.com |
| 02:09.55 | nevyn | !nvidia |
| 02:09.55 | dpkg | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . Ask me about <nouveau> (no 3D support in Debian packages), <nvidia dkms> or <nvidia m-a>. For GPUs made before 2004, see <nvidia dkms-173xx> and <nvidia dkms-96xx> for legacy drivers. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 02:10.25 | nevyn | !nvidia dkms |
| 02:10.26 | dpkg | For Squeeze users. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. "aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf". Run "update-initramfs -u" and restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist. For legacy drivers, see <nvidia legacy>. |
| 02:10.50 | NotJimCarrey | well, since it's a media server, don't care about 3d |
| 02:11.27 | NotJimCarrey | !nouveau |
| 02:11.27 | dpkg | The nouveau project aims to build high-quality, open source drivers for NVIDIA video cards. Nouveau <DRM> is in mainline as of Linux 2.6.33 and included in linux-2.6 since 2.6.32-10. The display driver is packaged as xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, DRI/3D support is not enabled; read its README.Debian file for important notes. For 3D support on Debian systems, use the proprietary "nvidia" driver, ask me about <nvidia>. |
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| 02:12.54 | NotJimCarrey | stupid black screen is taunting me |
| 02:13.44 | nevyn | so media server == box with disks that hold media? |
| 02:14.23 | nevyn | as opposed to media frontend == box connected to the tv that needs a reasonable WAF |
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| 02:15.03 | NotJimCarrey | second one |
| 02:15.09 | NotJimCarrey | sorry, half asleep |
| 02:15.32 | jagginess | NotJimCarrey, so if you not j.carrey, then you must be Paul Reubens |
| 02:15.51 | abrotman | you can msg the bot... |
| 02:15.55 | NotJimCarrey | nah, i'm his brother, john |
| 02:16.16 | jagginess | , /msg dpkg |
| 02:16.18 | jagginess | ^ |
| 02:16.27 | jagginess | naughty boy |
| 02:17.15 | NotJimCarrey | must.kill.skeleton king |
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| 02:27.51 | Rotaerk | nevyn: hmm, so once I have an MD setup, with a volume group containing it, and logical volumes within that vg, there's a way to create a flashcache device for the MD, and then somehow... redirect the volume group to include the flashcache instead of the MD? |
| 02:28.08 | nevyn | yes. |
| 02:28.31 | nevyn | you just tell lvm to look for the flashcache device before the md device |
| 02:28.39 | nevyn | (which still exists) |
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| 02:28.45 | nevyn | so it's even reaasonably safe |
| 02:28.52 | Rotaerk | so if the SSD fails, it will use the MD directly? |
| 02:28.57 | nevyn | yep |
| 02:28.59 | Rotaerk | cool. |
| 02:29.04 | Rotaerk | I think I'm going to put the boot on the HDDs because I don't have a RAID for the SSD |
| 02:29.16 | Rotaerk | and that way I don't have to resetup the boot if the SSD fails |
| 02:29.25 | nevyn | right. |
| 02:29.52 | Rotaerk | the boot will be from the MD, not the LVM though, right? |
| 02:29.58 | Rotaerk | err |
| 02:30.03 | Rotaerk | hmm.. |
| 02:30.58 | Rotaerk | I'm not using wheezy, so I don't think I can boot straight off a logical volume, so I'd need to setup a boot partition within the MD |
| 02:31.16 | Rotaerk | and then the rest of the MD would serve as the VG |
| 02:31.48 | nevyn | so you need two md's |
| 02:31.55 | nevyn | because you can't partition an md |
| 02:32.00 | Rotaerk | ah |
| 02:32.09 | nevyn | so you make 2 partitions on each disk |
| 02:32.12 | Rotaerk | right |
| 02:32.29 | nevyn | a 500mb/1gig boot partition (we're using big disks and you might want lots of kernels) |
| 02:32.38 | nevyn | and the reset of the disk. |
| 02:32.43 | Rotaerk | hmm I do have plenty of space; I can spare a gig |
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| 02:33.01 | nevyn | also I'd make the reset of the disk -5gig |
| 02:33.21 | nevyn | the reason for this. is disagreements about exactly how big 2Tb disks are. |
| 02:33.28 | nevyn | or 1Tb disks |
| 02:33.34 | nevyn | so if you need to replace one. |
| 02:33.56 | nevyn | finding that the array element is 200mb larger than the new disk. is a WORLD OF SUCK. |
| 02:34.44 | Rotaerk | interesting |
| 02:34.45 | nevyn | Rotaerk: how big are the disks? |
| 02:34.52 | Rotaerk | they're "1TB" |
| 02:34.55 | nevyn | right. |
| 02:35.17 | nevyn | so vendors definition of 1TB differs by a few hundred megabytes. |
| 02:35.39 | Rotaerk | so wouldn't max minus 1 GB be enough |
| 02:35.41 | Rotaerk | i.e. why 5 GB |
| 02:35.48 | nevyn | cut a gig or two off the end to be safe |
| 02:35.56 | nevyn | 5 is probably overkill |
| 02:36.00 | Rotaerk | k |
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| 02:36.26 | Rotaerk | hmm is the disagreements on the size of 1TB based on the distinction between TB and TiB? |
| 02:36.28 | Rotaerk | or something else |
| 02:36.48 | nevyn | something else. |
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| 02:39.42 | nevyn | it's just differences in drive geometries etc lead to difference here or there of a few hundred meg or 10's of megs |
| 02:39.50 | Rotaerk | k |
| 02:39.57 | nevyn | it doesn't matter how much or little it is when it doesn't fit on a new drive. |
| 02:40.03 | nevyn | ;) |
| 02:40.17 | nevyn | it makes for sad times. |
| 02:40.26 | Rotaerk | I'm sure the bits can squish to the side and make room for a few more |
| 02:42.46 | VaridianSol | anyone know what file the network settings stores a domain in I cannot login to gui now and need to change through cli |
| 02:43.14 | abrotman | /etc/mailname for one |
| 02:43.31 | nevyn | domain? |
| 02:43.59 | nevyn | outta here. |
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| 02:45.13 | VaridianSol | ok mailname had a reference but any others that seems it should be for sendmail or something similar |
| 02:45.30 | VaridianSol | cat aliases |
| 02:45.33 | VaridianSol | oops |
| 02:45.35 | VaridianSol | lol |
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| 02:48.03 | peterrooney | VaridianSol: Kitty? |
| 02:48.26 | VaridianSol | ?? |
| 02:48.54 | peterrooney | ...sometimes pussy. |
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| 02:49.22 | joegiampaoli | I've been trying to find a fix for this buy just can't, some websites on firefox (on very rare occasions) display text in an unknown font style what font should I have installed? Screenie attached: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B89XHw6WcgFvY2FuZWNzZVNYU2c/edit |
| 02:49.34 | VaridianSol | wtf are you goin on about |
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| 02:57.11 | Rotaerk | nevyn: geez, this one article suggests trimming off 2% of the drive capacity |
| 02:57.15 | Rotaerk | that'd be 20GB |
| 02:57.34 | Rotaerk | though their example is a 100GB drive so... their suggestion may not scale reasonably |
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| 02:57.57 | drag0nius | hello |
| 02:58.11 | drag0nius | do debian differ much from ubuntu about supporting some popular software? |
| 02:58.22 | zinx | yes |
| 02:58.54 | gnarface | !ubuntu |
| 02:58.55 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
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| 02:59.35 | Defusal_ | Anyone have any idea what could cause software scheduled as SCHED_FIFO with a priority of 90 not get the time slice it requires for a brief period once in a while? (The cores the software instances are restricted to are not overloaded) |
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| 03:02.43 | drag0nius | which version would you recommend to start with? |
| 03:02.49 | abrotman | squeeze |
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| 03:02.59 | drag0nius | and how about that new one? |
| 03:03.09 | drag0nius | i'm thinking about general purpose not server |
| 03:03.12 | gry | squeeze is latest stable |
| 03:03.14 | ectospasm | just starting out? squeeze |
| 03:03.16 | abrotman | squeeze is the new one |
| 03:03.40 | abrotman | wheezy hasn't been released yet |
| 03:03.45 | drag0nius | ohh |
| 03:04.11 | drag0nius | shall i get 32 or 64 bit? |
| 03:04.21 | drag0nius | got i5 cpu |
| 03:04.41 | drag0nius | on ubuntu there is lot of bugged stuff on 64, how about debian? |
| 03:04.54 | joegiampaoli | I've been trying to find a fix for this buy just can't, some websites on firefox (on very rare occasions) display text in an unknown font style what font should I have installed? Screenie attached: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B89XHw6WcgFvY2FuZWNzZVNYU2c/edit |
| 03:04.55 | grim4593 | Can anyone recommend a bandwidth limiter that would let me run a cron job to throttle bandwidth for specific programs during certain hours of the day? |
| 03:05.07 | nsadmin | drag0nius, you can check |
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| 03:05.12 | nsadmin | !bts |
| 03:05.12 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. See also <apt-listbugs>, <reportbug>. http://wiki.debian.org/HowtoUseBTS |
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| 03:14.41 | drag0nius | is there any problem with sharing home partition between ubuntu and debian? |
| 03:14.56 | gnarface | i wouldn't do it really |
| 03:15.10 | gnarface | stuff will sorta work but conflicting versions of stuff will mangle shared config files |
| 03:15.40 | gnarface | better to share some random directory you make yourself in /usr/local somewhere |
| 03:15.55 | drag0nius | k |
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| 03:16.16 | drag0nius | around how long would it take to install debian wiht net install and 10 mbit net? |
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| 03:17.21 | gnarface | depends on how much you select. if you don't select anything you could have a bootable install within half an hour, i think. |
| 03:18.03 | drag0nius | and how much disk space would it require? |
| 03:18.21 | gnarface | for a minimal install? selecting no pacakges? ~400mb |
| 03:18.27 | drag0nius | and full install? |
| 03:18.48 | gnarface | the full install spans several DVD-ROMS. it would take probably over 10 gigabytes |
| 03:19.00 | gnarface | nobody installs ALL of it |
| 03:19.15 | drag0nius | yeah i guess so :P |
| 03:20.00 | drag0nius | so way to would be to do minimal install and then get what i would need later? |
| 03:20.17 | gnarface | yes, that was what i was going to suggest |
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| 03:20.32 | gnarface | you can always change the installed components later |
| 03:20.45 | gnarface | its not like windows where there are certain things that only the installer can do |
| 03:21.29 | gnarface | the installer is just there so you can automate as much of the process as you know the details of the requirements for |
| 03:21.54 | drag0nius | what would be average disk space to put system on? |
| 03:21.58 | gnarface | but as a rule generally i personally almost never select ANYTHING. i usually like to get it booting quickly so i can pick packages afterwards |
| 03:22.13 | drag0nius | like 10 gb or more like 30? |
| 03:22.24 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps is /etc/security/limits.conf |
| 03:22.28 | Eryn_1983_FL | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:22.34 | gry | yes |
| 03:22.37 | gabesubdo | drag0nius: 10 or less |
| 03:22.49 | Eryn_1983_FL | maybe i just used it wrong in the past, |
| 03:22.54 | nsadmin | Eryn_1983_FL, there should be a man page for it in section 5 |
| 03:23.02 | Eryn_1983_FL | yeah |
| 03:23.03 | drag0nius | k lets try installing it |
| 03:23.11 | drag0nius | thanks for help and see ya |
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| 03:23.41 | gnarface | drag0nius: i think most people do around a 2GB install then it bloats out to 5GB over time. most the stuff using up my harddrive is porn and world of warcraft |
| 03:23.53 | gabesubdo | heh, too late |
| 03:23.57 | gnarface | woops |
| 03:24.11 | gabesubdo | my root partition is 4gb used though, after 9 months |
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| 03:24.55 | gnarface | gabesubdo: that tends not to happen to me as long as i keep /tmp /usr /home and /var separate... |
| 03:25.16 | gabesubdo | I just do a small / partition and a giant /home |
| 03:25.25 | gabesubdo | plus a tiny /boot, I guess |
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| 03:26.51 | Eryn_1983_FL | well thats a toy for another day |
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| 03:31.43 | elvisthedj | Anyone know if there is an app that would wrap a console app with a server (e.g. i want to take txt base console games, send them text across the network and receive their reply). Seems like something someone may have already needed |
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| 03:32.27 | arejay | any ideas http://pastebin.com/index/0p5iy4Dx |
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| 03:33.05 | arejay | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:33.06 | sney | !tell arejay about bat |
| 03:34.11 | gry | arejay, you on ubuntu or debian |
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| 03:34.24 | caf | elvisthedj: you could do that using sshd - set up a user account that runs the console app rather than a shell when ssh'd to |
| 03:34.41 | arejay | ubuntu |
| 03:34.43 | gry | !ubuntu |
| 03:34.44 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
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| 03:36.04 | file-exists-p | hi all. what is the proper way of having AES encryption of partitions? Currently I install by hand an up-to-date loop.ko everytime I update my kernel |
| 03:36.29 | file-exists-p | which seems a bit rustic to me |
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| 03:36.38 | un214 | wow that does seem rustic |
| 03:36.41 | file-exists-p | :) |
| 03:37.01 | un214 | sometimes I wish I had an easier time talking to the dev team too |
| 03:37.03 | un214 | oh well |
| 03:37.03 | file-exists-p | how comes AES is not in loop.ko? sorry I am clueless on the topic |
| 03:37.13 | un214 | so am I :( |
| 03:37.15 | file-exists-p | ah ok |
| 03:37.18 | file-exists-p | that was irony ^^ |
| 03:37.39 | un214 | I'd say ask abrotman but he's idle |
| 03:37.46 | file-exists-p | ok |
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| 03:42.43 | elvisthedj | caf: I don't think that will do in my case. My script will need to start an instance of the game and then be able to send and receive data. I think your idea would work if I was going to be interacting with a keyboard |
| 03:43.07 | elvisthedj | i can't seem to redirect data from within the zmachine emulator |
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| 03:45.08 | file-exists-p | I find it surprising that loop AES does not work out of the box |
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| 03:46.21 | kerrick | Does Debian have a python2 command yet? |
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| 03:46.48 | kerrick | Can someone type python2 into their terminal for me and tell me whether it works? |
| 03:47.22 | caf | elvisthedj: you can have a script run the ssh client instead of a real person |
| 03:48.34 | VaridianSol | what will cause the login screen to keep reappearing and desktop not loading for gui login when terminal and ssh login are fine |
| 03:49.01 | grim4593 | (kerrick): http://pastebin.com/7ULPhKXh |
| 03:49.33 | kerrick | grim4593, do you have Python installed at all? |
| 03:49.40 | grim4593 | my bad that was on my ubuntu box |
| 03:49.49 | grim4593 | i ran it on my debian box and it just said command not found |
| 03:49.58 | caf | elvisthedj: what's the end goal - to have a script on one machine interacting with an instance of the zmachine emulator on a different machine? |
| 03:50.01 | kerrick | grim4593, and the Debian box has Python installed? |
| 03:50.07 | grim4593 | and yes, python is installed |
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| 03:50.30 | kerrick | grim4593, OK, thanks |
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| 03:53.01 | grim4593 | (kerrick): "apt-cache search python | grep python2" returns some packages for python2.5 and 2.6 |
| 03:53.41 | kerrick | Hmm, weird |
| 03:53.51 | grim4593 | 23:53:40 root@core: ~# python -V |
| 03:53.52 | grim4593 | Python 2.6.6 |
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| 03:54.11 | kerrick | Wait, Debian doesn't even ship 2.7? |
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| 03:55.16 | grim4593 | I am on Squeeze. |
| 03:56.39 | nsadmin | , versions python |
| 03:56.40 | judd | Package: python on i386 -- lenny: 2.5.2-3; squeeze: 2.6.6-3+squeeze7; wheezy: 2.7.3~rc2-1; sid: 2.7.3-2 |
| 03:57.03 | nsadmin | so, yes, but not for squeeze |
| 03:57.11 | VaridianSol | what will cause the login screen to keep reappearing and desktop not loading for gui login when terminal and ssh login are fine |
| 03:57.48 | nsadmin | VaridianSol, session starter failing and exiting? |
| 03:57.59 | nsadmin | or maybe just exiting |
| 03:58.05 | kerrick | grim4593, nsadmin, thanks |
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| 04:00.20 | VaridianSol | not sure what log to look at, it tries to login then just gives login again |
| 04:00.37 | sney | VaridianSol: maybe the X log |
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| 04:03.21 | VaridianSol | there are several Xorg logs |
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| 04:05.28 | LtL | VaridianSol: probably /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 04:06.13 | LtL | VaridianSol: then you might want to look in the older X logs also. |
| 04:06.34 | sney | as well as the log for whatever DE you're trying to launch |
| 04:09.57 | VaridianSol | will keep looking through those, I have gnome and twm both do the same thing |
| 04:11.15 | VaridianSol | thanks will be back later work for now :( |
| 04:11.18 | LtL | VaridianSol: look at ~/.xsession-errors too |
| 04:11.34 | VaridianSol | ah kewl noted thanks |
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| 04:14.03 | VaridianSol | awesome think i may know what is wrong now thanks again |
| 04:14.49 | LtL | VaridianSol: you're welcome |
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| 04:19.20 | KeatonT | Is /tmp in Debian mounted to tmpfs? |
| 04:19.25 | KeatonT | by defaut? |
| 04:19.29 | KeatonT | default* |
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| 04:27.07 | caf | KeatonT: no, at least not in stable |
| 04:27.20 | KeatonT | caf thank you. |
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| 04:32.07 | lyrae | I got a new monitor and i think the colors are off. http://i.imgur.com/lT1aj.jpg does that look more greenish or bluish to you ugys |
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| 04:45.40 | enlightified | lyrae: it looks pretty much gray to me. just a little bluish |
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| 04:47.08 | enlightified | although I think the colors in my eyes are a little off. my right eye sees everything a little yellower! |
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| 04:50.10 | lyrae | thats not good |
| 04:51.47 | cardamon | Having trouble with mpd. I update-rc.d mpd to remove the service, there's none running in memory, and it's set to bind to localhost. But when I try to run it as a user, this happens: http://paste.debian.net/186206 Additionally, here's my /etc/mpd.conf: http://paste.debian.net/186202 |
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| 04:53.07 | Rotaerk | well I've got a md -> lvm -> filesystem stack now |
| 04:53.09 | Gargantua | cardamon: did you edit your /etc/default/mpd? |
| 04:53.26 | Gargantua | change START_MPD=false |
| 04:53.31 | Gargantua | to* |
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| 04:53.56 | cardamon | Gargantua: Except it's already removed as a service. |
| 04:54.02 | cardamon | Wouldn't that override? |
| 04:54.15 | Gargantua | cardamon: do a pastebin of your ls ~/.mpd/ |
| 04:54.27 | cardamon | Don't have one. |
| 04:54.32 | Gargantua | There you go. |
| 04:54.33 | cardamon | Did it global. |
| 04:54.48 | Gargantua | Do you want it ran as a service or just through your user? |
| 04:55.10 | Gargantua | If the latter, you need to set up a ~/.mpd |
| 04:55.44 | cardamon | Frankly, I don't care. But last time I did it I had trouble accessing things as a service and ran as a user. |
| 04:55.56 | cardamon | It's all single user, so I don't care either way. |
| 04:56.02 | Gargantua | Right. |
| 04:56.12 | Gargantua | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Music_Player_Daemon#Local_Configuration_.28per_user.29 |
| 04:56.17 | Gargantua | Follow those steps. |
| 04:56.29 | cardamon | Yeah, that's what got me in this. |
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| 04:57.08 | Gargantua | You just said you have no ~/.mpd |
| 04:57.18 | Gargantua | The first command on that guide is to create that folder. |
| 04:57.23 | Gargantua | directory* |
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| 05:12.07 | drag0nius | how do i install firefox on debian? o.O |
| 05:13.05 | Rotgut | apt-get install iceweasel |
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| 05:14.41 | cardamon | Is anyone else getting that spam? |
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| 05:15.02 | Rotgut | yes |
| 05:15.05 | cardamon | drag0nius: iceweasel IS firefox, built from Mozilla's source, minus the branding. |
| 05:15.28 | cardamon | Any idea what to do about it? I ignored the nick, but he got around it. |
| 05:16.06 | drag0nius | ok and another question |
| 05:16.10 | drag0nius | where did keepass2 go in debian |
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| 05:16.23 | drag0nius | its told it should be in repositories, i have link to repositories but cant install with apt-get |
| 05:16.28 | drag0nius | http://packages.debian.org/sid/keepass2 |
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| 05:16.55 | cardamon | drag0nius: Are you running sid? |
| 05:17.06 | drag0nius | idk what it is ;d |
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| 05:17.16 | cardamon | ,version keepass2 |
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| 05:17.18 | judd | Package: keepass2 on i386 -- sid: 2.19+dfsg-1; wheezy: 2.19+dfsg-1 |
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| 05:17.48 | drag0nius | how can i get that on stable? |
| 05:17.50 | cardamon | If you have to ask, you're probably running Squeeze. Which, as you can see, is not one the releases with a copy of it. |
| 05:18.02 | cardamon | !tell drag0nius about backports |
| 05:18.21 | cardamon | !tell drag0nius about sbo |
| 05:18.26 | Max^ | !backports |
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| 05:18.26 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 05:18.27 | Max^ | k |
| 05:19.23 | drag0nius | deb, command not found |
| 05:19.51 | cardamon | That's not a command. I din't tell you to do that. |
| 05:19.52 | drag0nius | ohh |
| 05:20.00 | drag0nius | yeah i didnt read |
| 05:20.08 | cardamon | And that is why you fail. |
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| 05:22.12 | rypervenche | lol |
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| 05:24.16 | drag0nius | still doesnt find |
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| 05:26.15 | cardamon | Here's the thing, I'm not standing behind you. I can't see what you're seeing. At best I can only anticipate your mistakes. |
| 05:26.27 | Rotaerk | hmm, why is debian squeeze based on linux 2.6 rather than 3.2? |
| 05:26.54 | cardamon | Rotaerk: Because Squeeze is nearly 2 years old by now, from its frozen date. |
| 05:27.00 | drag0nius | i've added "deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main" |
| 05:27.04 | Rotaerk | actually, I was asking because I see it in the aptitude package list |
| 05:27.09 | cardamon | It's stable. Stable rarely means current. |
| 05:27.10 | Rotaerk | but then I realized I have backports sourced... |
| 05:27.17 | Rotaerk | so nevermind :P |
| 05:27.33 | drag0nius | guess thats not right repo for sid? |
| 05:27.41 | Rotaerk | actually, I'll probably need to go with 3.2 for my sound to work |
| 05:28.04 | cardamon | drag0nius: Added it where? And you have to follow an change in sources with an update. |
| 05:28.12 | cardamon | Otherwise you're using old lists. |
| 05:28.17 | drag0nius | added in software center |
| 05:28.24 | drag0nius | it updated itself, then i tried update manually with apt-get |
| 05:29.02 | drag0nius | what would be right line to add for sid? |
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| 05:32.15 | drag0nius | guess i need to create file /etc/apt/preferences? |
| 05:32.16 | rypervenche | ,version keepassx |
| 05:32.17 | judd | Package: keepassx on i386 -- lenny: 0.3.1-1; squeeze: 0.4.3-1; sid: 0.4.3-2; wheezy: 0.4.3-2 |
| 05:32.25 | rypervenche | drag0nius: I recommend using keepassx |
| 05:32.25 | drag0nius | i need keepass2 not keepassx |
| 05:32.29 | rypervenche | :/ |
| 05:32.44 | drag0nius | v2 is not compatible with v1 |
| 05:32.59 | rypervenche | They're different programs. |
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| 05:33.38 | drag0nius | so i should create /etc/apt/preferences file? |
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| 05:33.47 | drag0nius | to make some priority on packages versions |
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| 05:34.05 | drag0nius | cos i dont have such file |
| 05:34.48 | rypervenche | drag0nius: Yeah, that would probably be best. |
| 05:35.29 | rypervenche | drag0nius: You can either enable testing and block all of the packages using preferences, or you can manually download and install the keepass2 deb, up to you. |
| 05:35.30 | nsadmin | , versions keepass2 |
| 05:35.31 | judd | Package: keepass2 on i386 -- sid: 2.19+dfsg-1; wheezy: 2.19+dfsg-1 |
| 05:35.45 | rypervenche | Don't do sid. |
| 05:36.01 | drag0nius | i use that 2.19 on ubuntu w/o problems |
| 05:36.03 | drag0nius | it runs in mono |
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| 05:36.53 | nsadmin | well you don't want to install wheezy or sid packages on squeeze, it may not work, and you could corrupt your package database which is what makes your installation a "debian" |
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| 05:37.50 | cardamon | We're not Ubuntu. |
| 05:38.30 | nsadmin | drag0nius, ok, then maybe you can backport the wheezy version |
| 05:38.42 | cardamon | "It works in blank" is an argument that kills any sympathy that might drive me to help you. But that's me personally. |
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| 05:39.43 | rypervenche | Aye, Debian isn't good if you want a desktop with the best programs. It's awesome for a computer that is rock-solid without any problems :) |
| 05:40.12 | nsadmin | cardamon, that depends on whether you interpret that phrase as "it works in X, so what's wrong with you people?! it should work!" or "it works in X, so that shows it can work" |
| 05:40.21 | drag0nius | well the thing is i cant work without that keepass |
| 05:40.29 | drag0nius | in v2 |
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| 05:41.15 | cardamon | nsadmin: I interpret it whichever way allows me to feel superior. :P |
| 05:41.23 | nsadmin | cardamon, a lot of both of those would be what you form in your own head |
| 05:41.30 | cardamon | drag0nius: Then you'll want to try a backport. |
| 05:41.38 | rypervenche | It's not in backports. |
| 05:41.52 | cardamon | Well, then he's got three options. |
| 05:41.57 | drag0nius | how would i manually resolve those dependencies? |
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| 05:42.04 | cardamon | Make a backport himself. |
| 05:42.07 | cardamon | Apt-pin. |
| 05:42.22 | cardamon | Or wait for Wheezy to become Stable. |
| 05:42.23 | drag0nius | yeah but it says i've too old version, then i try to install that older hten there are 10 older etc. |
| 05:42.44 | nsadmin | "it" says? |
| 05:42.50 | nsadmin | what's a it? |
| 05:43.04 | drag0nius | apt-get |
| 05:43.11 | rypervenche | shudders. |
| 05:43.16 | rypervenche | use aptitude :P |
| 05:43.26 | drag0nius | it breaks on unmet dependencies |
| 05:43.28 | nsadmin | hmm. something could already be wrong with your package db |
| 05:43.45 | drag0nius | like i've v1.68 but 1.74 is required |
| 05:43.50 | drag0nius | for console-setup |
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| 05:44.06 | ksuhku | rypervenche, cut the drama |
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| 05:44.32 | nsadmin | yeah, that's exactly the kind of corruption I'm referring to... pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 05:44.48 | rypervenche | ksuhku: Not drama. Aptitude is better with dependencies, and he's having problems with apt-get, so I see no reason not to try aptitude for better dependency resolution. |
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| 05:45.20 | ksuhku | rypervenche, well you could've said just that instead of the antics |
| 05:46.18 | rypervenche | ksuhku: 4 words vs 26 words. |
| 05:46.29 | cardamon | What would prevent files and directories owned by my user with 755 permissions (that's -rwxr-xr-x and drwxr-xr-x) from being moveable? |
| 05:46.38 | ksuhku | rypervenche, you're not counting these words we exchange now i notice |
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| 05:46.56 | drag0nius | hmm lets just try running exe on current mono |
| 05:46.59 | drag0nius | maybe that would work |
| 05:47.33 | ksuhku | rypervenche, the guy just admitted using ubuntu, it's unlikely he knows much |
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| 05:48.54 | rypervenche | ksuhku: Doesn't matter. We're arguing about nothing here, so I'll leave it at that. |
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| 05:49.43 | drag0nius | is there some up-to-date .NET emulator? |
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| 05:50.15 | drag0nius | default mono simply has too old libs |
| 05:50.25 | rypervenche | drag0nius: You don't want Debian. |
| 05:50.28 | Blue1 | drag0nius: yup haven't found anything to replace that. |
| 05:50.41 | ksuhku | fuck mono |
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| 05:59.32 | namoamitabuddha | When will iceweasel upgrade to 15? |
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| 06:00.35 | milo_ | can i run ssh server with web server? |
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| 06:00.44 | milo_ | on one server? |
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| 06:03.07 | rypervenche | milo_: Yes, lol. You can do a lot more than that. |
| 06:03.53 | namoamitabuddha | dpkg: help |
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| 06:06.09 | milo_ | dpkg: help |
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| 06:09.07 | milo_ | rypervenche, the only problem is: i didn't install packages for web server on install... |
| 06:09.13 | milo_ | how do i do it now? |
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| 06:09.43 | rypervenche | milo_: tasksel |
| 06:09.53 | milo_ | ah... :) |
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| 06:10.03 | peterrooney | milo_: the usual method is via aptitude or apt-get |
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| 06:10.28 | milo_ | how? |
| 06:10.33 | milo_ | what packages to install? |
| 06:11.15 | peterrooney | milo_: viz, aptitude install apache2 |
| 06:11.55 | abec0 | Well, you could launch «tasksel» as root. |
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| 06:12.20 | abec0 | And select «web server» and «ssh server». |
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| 06:13.10 | peterrooney | abec0: why install ssh server if what's wanted is http server? |
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| 06:13.34 | abec0 | But installing package in general is a matter of «apt-get install» or «aptitude install» (or...). |
| 06:13.44 | abec0 | peterrooney: Because. |
| 06:13.47 | abec0 | ;-) |
| 06:14.01 | abec0 | Well, I have a more argumented version: |
| 06:14.22 | abec0 | «milo_> can i run ssh server with web server?» made me. |
| 06:14.40 | namoamitabuddha | abec0: Is aptitude buggy? |
| 06:14.51 | milo_ | i hate aptitude |
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| 06:16.11 | namoamitabuddha | abec0: It seems that aptitude doesn't work well about multiarch. |
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| 06:17.31 | abec0 | namoamitabuddha: I wouldn't know about that. (alternate: Are you a troll ? ;-) |
| 06:18.02 | namoamitabuddha | abec0: We should wait for the solution before the bug is solved. |
| 06:18.48 | namoamitabuddha | abec0: I meant we might as well not suggest aptitude. |
| 06:19.01 | namoamitabuddha | abec0: Well, although I'm using aptitude because I have no multiarch. |
| 06:19.09 | abec0 | namoamitabuddha: I should wait to understand what you said before replying ;-). |
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| 06:19.41 | namoamitabuddha | abec0: Sorry |
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| 06:20.05 | namoamitabuddha | abec0: "We might as well suggest aptitude after the problem is solved" |
| 06:20.22 | namoamitabuddha | abec0: The first sentence was wrong, sorry. |
| 06:21.51 | namoamitabuddha | Incidentally, what's ";-)"? |
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| 06:25.06 | abec0 | I means: «My tea is ready, I should probably go. My mug has the word smiley on it. I don't know what it means. I might google it». |
| 06:25.51 | namoamitabuddha | Well, you remind me to check whether the bug is fixed now. |
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| 06:28.14 | namoamitabuddha | abec0: SORRY, IT'S FIXED. HURRY! |
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| 06:29.45 | namoamitabuddha | abec0: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=672340 |
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| 06:30.33 | fas3r | hello, there is a way to undo a lvreduce ? I forgot to do the resize2fs before .... or it's ok ? |
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| 06:37.38 | fas3r | ok... nobody ?? |
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| 07:33.08 | drag0nius | how to get to x server settings? |
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| 07:36.39 | ectospasm | drag0nius: like what kind of settings? |
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| 07:36.55 | ectospasm | ...what kind of settings are you looking for? |
| 07:37.12 | drag0nius | like driver version or sth |
| 07:37.17 | drag0nius | i dont even know what is running |
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| 07:37.51 | ectospasm | drag0nius: driver version... of your GPU/graphics card? |
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| 07:39.07 | drag0nius | kind of |
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| 07:39.39 | xgl | hi all |
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| 07:42.09 | ectospasm | WHY?? |
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| 07:43.58 | drag0nius | i need to install some opengl32 libraries |
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| 07:48.50 | ectospasm | I can't help there, sorry |
| 07:49.02 | ectospasm | drag0nius: are you using squeeze? |
| 07:49.22 | ectospasm | I think wheezy has multiarch support in it |
| 07:49.38 | drag0nius | yep im using squeeze |
| 07:49.54 | drag0nius | also i cant complete first time setup on playonlinux |
| 07:50.04 | drag0nius | stops after downloading fonts |
| 07:50.18 | drag0nius | 0 info in console, just stops |
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| 07:51.13 | ectospasm | I cannot help there, sorry |
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| 08:49.40 | blue_sky | that's not clear is it... I'm in England. I want my cron job to run at 0500 every day, that would be 0400 during DST, but still 0500 for everyone else in the world. |
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| 09:05.27 | xyz_ | hi, when I installed Debian my screen is streched out, I think I'm missing a driver, shall I download the graphics driver and install? |
| 09:05.38 | xyz_ | I have an ATI Radeon 6290HD card. |
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| 09:08.36 | nevyn | !ati |
| 09:08.36 | dpkg | To use an ATI/AMD graphics card with Debian, ask me about <radeon>, <fglrx>. Installing proprietary drivers from amd.com (i.e. with the ATI Driver Installer) is not supported in #debian, please go to #ati (irc.freenode.net). |
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| 09:10.11 | nevyn | !tell xyz_ about fglrx |
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| 09:10.34 | zen_monkey | I've forgot root's pass on my home server (happends when installing it half slept :p) i've booted into single mode and asks me for the pass anyway, editing grub i got to root@(none):/# but passwd doesn't work from there |
| 09:10.39 | zen_monkey | am i missing something? |
| 09:10.59 | Gerben | zen_monkey, boot from a live cd |
| 09:11.07 | Gerben | unless you have an ecrypted disk.. |
| 09:11.17 | Gerben | then chroot to your install, passwd |
| 09:11.29 | Gerben | et voila, password reset |
| 09:11.39 | zen_monkey | Gerben, nope, no encription but never used chroot |
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| 09:12.11 | Gerben | I think most live cd's auto-mount all partitions, just chroot /mnt/systemdisk |
| 09:12.18 | Gerben | or where it is mounted |
| 09:13.02 | zen_monkey | it has 4 disks of wich the first has the system and the other 3 are in raid, will unpluging one of the raided disks cause more trouble |
| 09:13.03 | zen_monkey | ? |
| 09:13.05 | VaridianSol | blkid does not work how else can I list my drives |
| 09:13.36 | evil-man | VaridianSol: fdisk -l |
| 09:13.47 | zen_monkey | Gerben, i have no free ports for the cdrom |
| 09:13.58 | Gerben | usb is also possible |
| 09:14.00 | nevyn | mount -o remount,rw / |
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| 09:14.06 | zen_monkey | Gerben, not in this mobo |
| 09:14.09 | zen_monkey | :S |
| 09:14.36 | Gerben | zen_monkey, How did you install Debian then |
| 09:14.42 | Gerben | PXE? |
| 09:15.01 | VaridianSol | ah ty, is this supposed to take a long time |
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| 09:15.26 | zen_monkey | Gerben, actually put the system drive and the optical on one ide did the install and then unplugged the optical and placed the other 3 disks |
| 09:15.49 | Gerben | ok |
| 09:16.19 | Gerben | but you don't need your other (data?) drives for resetting the password, so can't you do the same now? |
| 09:16.44 | evil-man | bootable usb drive. |
| 09:17.13 | zen_monkey | yes i can, i was asking if booting without the raid will break anything |
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| 09:17.30 | zen_monkey | but now i realized that such system wont even get to boot :p |
| 09:18.00 | blue_sky | zen_monkey: boot floppy (remember those?!) |
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| 09:18.34 | xyz_ | Hi, I installed the video drivers for ATI, but I still have the same problem. |
| 09:18.42 | zen_monkey | Gerben, as a mather of fact i happend to have some of those dynosaurs still around haha |
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| 09:19.12 | zen_monkey | Gerben, let's see how it goes |
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| 09:21.36 | VaridianSol | i loved boot floppies |
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| 09:22.51 | xyz_ | I installed the ATI driver packages on Debian, but my screen is still streched out and the drivers don't work, what shall I do? |
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| 09:23.13 | VaridianSol | keyring did not get unlocked when i logged in, why is this, rather anoying as I have to put password in for remote desktop in to actual desktop |
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| 09:24.45 | zen_monkey | blue_sky, last 2 where misdirected, i was answering to you :p |
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| 09:34.54 | xyz_ | I have installed the xserver-xorg-video-ati package, but for some reason my graphics card isn't working still. I have restarted my system. I have an ATI Radeon 6290HD card... |
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| 09:36.35 | blue_sky | zen_monkey: tomsrtbt used to be my favourite, but I can't tell if that's still updated. |
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| 09:37.05 | blue_sky | got me out of a lot of problems (mostly self inflicted) |
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| 09:37.26 | blue_sky | ...I'm less stupid these days. |
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| 09:38.48 | sharket | hi :) |
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| 09:40.18 | sharket | I got yesterday a IBM System 3550 with apparently 2 Broadcom gigaethernet cards |
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| 09:41.08 | sharket | and in the instalation it tells to me to use the non-free fw, but i downloaded and stored in a pendrive, but it doesnt load |
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| 09:42.49 | sharket | no one ? |
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| 09:43.32 | phix | sup sharket ? |
| 09:43.40 | sharket | hello phix |
| 09:43.51 | phix | what's wrong mate? |
| 09:44.19 | sharket | in the instalation it doesnt detect the NIC |
| 09:44.20 | xyz_ | I have installed the xserver-xorg-video-ati package, but for some reason my graphics card isn't working still. I have restarted my system. I have an ATI Radeon 6290HD card... |
| 09:44.32 | phix | sharket: What NIC you got? |
| 09:44.37 | sharket | and if it does, it requires a fw |
| 09:44.53 | sharket | are the one system x3550 7978 has |
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| 09:44.55 | sharket | let me paste |
| 09:44.59 | xyz_ | sharket: Do you have WPA or WEP security key? |
| 09:45.08 | xyz_ | sharket: WLAN or LAN? |
| 09:45.24 | sharket | LAN |
| 09:45.26 | sharket | The missing firmware files are: bnx/bnx2-mips-06-5.0.0.j3.fw |
| 09:45.33 | phix | xyz_: isn't there a propiertary set of drivers you can use? |
| 09:45.34 | sharket | this is what it ask me for, is gigaethernet |
| 09:45.58 | xyz_ | phix: Propiertary? |
| 09:46.02 | phix | mips you say, so this isn't an x86 system? |
| 09:46.18 | phix | xyz_: yeah released from AMD |
| 09:46.28 | phix | look on their site |
| 09:46.30 | xyz_ | Oh, but Debian doesn't support them? |
| 09:46.32 | sharket | that's what is what it ask me for |
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| 09:46.55 | sharket | http://www.flickr.com/photos/keinoguchi/6054563916/ |
| 09:47.02 | sharket | this is the same error i got |
| 09:47.03 | phix | xyz_: the drivers support the linux kernel and X so it will work, there just isn't an offical debian package available for it |
| 09:47.15 | xyz_ | Okay phix. |
| 09:47.19 | sharket | but the solution does't work to me |
| 09:47.28 | xyz_ | I'll download the drivers and see if it'll work. |
| 09:47.29 | phix | xyz_: not on the official debian repos that is, take a look on AMDs site |
| 09:47.50 | xyz_ | phix: I know. |
| 09:47.51 | phix | sharket: so what type of computer you got? |
| 09:48.04 | sharket | IMB system x3550 7978 |
| 09:48.12 | phix | what is that? |
| 09:48.17 | Kakadu | hi! I've recently updated nvidia drivers in my Unstable and now wine says that opengl libraries seem installed badly. http://paste.in.ua/4651/raw/ |
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| 09:48.38 | phix | sharket: can you get the drivers from the manufactores web site? |
| 09:48.46 | sharket | yes |
| 09:48.59 | sharket | i did, and the firmware it ask me for and, nothing :( |
| 09:49.09 | sharket | xyz_ any idea ? |
| 09:49.19 | Kakadu | in #winehq people says that I should install some multiarch libraries but aptin libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386 doesn't help |
| 09:49.45 | xyz_ | sharket: All I can say is, you may not need the firmware, do you have WPA or WEP encryption? |
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| 09:50.01 | sharket | is a ethernet NIC xy |
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| 09:50.28 | xyz_ | sharket: You probably have WPA, the installer only supports WEP. |
| 09:50.56 | xyz_ | You don't need the missing firmware really. |
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| 10:00.39 | zen_monkey | how certain is to say this... primary master = sda primary slave = sdb secondary master = sdc secondary slave = sdd ??? |
| 10:01.21 | zen_monkey | btw, those are IDE drives |
| 10:01.49 | nevyn | zen_monkey: not terribly ;) |
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| 10:02.48 | zen_monkey | cause there's no way to tell in wich port an specific drive is, right? |
| 10:05.08 | xyz_ | ...... |
| 10:05.42 | ChrisH | zen_monkey: You found why I prefer the cXtYdz device files :)... |
| 10:06.13 | ChrisH | And with SATA Disk I am still not able to map SATA errors to a specific disk :( |
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| 10:06.42 | zen_monkey | ChrisH, what is a cXtYdz file? |
| 10:07.21 | zen_monkey | ChrisH, well, am following your path... trying to know wich one is the failing one |
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| 10:08.34 | nevyn | cxtydz is icky |
| 10:08.42 | nevyn | just get the serial number from smart |
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| 10:09.10 | ChrisH | zen_monkey: cXtYdz is the way solaris/HPUX and others count their Disks. c(ontroller) t(arget) d(isk) eg. /dev/dsk/c0t1d0 is the Disk 1 on controller 0 and can be determined without have a look at the disk. |
| 10:09.50 | ChrisH | zen_monkey: I found atop, smarttools helpful in case of half broken disks... Halfbroken in terms of, disk did not yet recognized its dead |
| 10:10.05 | nevyn | it's icky. because you still have to refer to a system handbook to find whihc disk slot is c1t0d0 and which one is c0t1d0 |
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| 10:10.48 | ChrisH | nevyn: But you HAVE a system hand book to look at... I was some weeks ago in front of a 6 disk system and had no idea which disk to replace |
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| 10:12.01 | zen_monkey | ChanServ, actually this one was working fine (afaik) but since i used it on a RAID it somehow got out of it and i can't take it in again from the web interface |
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| 10:12.22 | nevyn | ChrisH: so.. this stuff exists on x86 gear. but not whitebox junk. |
| 10:12.34 | nevyn | with id lights and all that nifty stuff. |
| 10:12.45 | ChrisH | zen_monkey: HW Raid? |
| 10:12.52 | zen_monkey | software |
| 10:13.00 | nevyn | eww hw raid. |
| 10:13.20 | weedar | When I boot Squeezy's Netinst-CD in Rescue mode I don't see my /dev/md devices - but running the Expert-mode installer does? Is there any reason they should differ in which devices they see? |
| 10:13.33 | zen_monkey | nevyn, to whom ? |
| 10:13.38 | weedar | Note that I add "dmraid=true" when booting both in Rescue mode and in Expert-mode |
| 10:13.41 | ChrisH | nevyn: cfgadm unconfiure and wait for the blue LED to go on.... :) |
| 10:14.12 | ChrisH | weedar: "dmraid=true" is for fake-raids... not SW raid! |
| 10:14.38 | ChrisH | zen_monkey: There is a web GUI for adding disks? |
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| 10:16.14 | ChrisH | zen_monkey: If you know the devicefile, you can use dd to read the disk and light the ACTIVITY LED and identify the disk that way. Depending on the HW you need to poweroff and compare the serial woith the serial from smartools. replace the disk and resync..... |
| 10:16.26 | weedar | ChrisH: Yes, this is BIOS-based RAID on a HP 8570w, I'm not setting up sw-RAID |
| 10:16.53 | weedar | For some reason I still see the RAID even if I change from RAID to AHCI-mode in my BIOS so I'm kind of stuck with it.. |
| 10:16.55 | nevyn | depending on what it is it might be worth using. |
| 10:17.50 | zen_monkey | ChrisH, actually it's OMV (debian based nas) and regarding the leds, it's not server hardware just a repurposed pc so i got one led for all of them |
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| 10:19.27 | ChrisH | zen_monkey: then you need to get the serial using devicefilename and smartmontools and search the disks for this serial. Do you get any messages? cat /proc/mdstat ; dmesg ; fdisk -l ; or similar? |
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| 10:20.55 | zen_monkey | ChrisH, at the moment i have a live system on it as am dealing with something else |
| 10:21.04 | zen_monkey | but am taking notes on suggestions :D |
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| 10:27.25 | zen_monkey | so, i've mounted the disk from wich i need to recover roots pass and done chroot /that/disk/ |
| 10:27.35 | zen_monkey | now just passwd will change it? |
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| 10:27.48 | nevyn | uh-huh |
| 10:27.55 | ChrisH | zen_monkey: its expected to do it. |
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| 10:28.15 | nevyn | I would of done it from init=/bin/sh but that's more.. tricky. |
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| 10:38.07 | grzeslaw | hi guys, how can I grep for sth which is not hashed and could have some spaces in the begining of the line? I am trying to wrote some regext but without succesfull effect [; |
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| 10:40.20 | zen_monkey | ChrisH, well now i have root access again! thanks on that. Now i'll have to face that raid thing. |
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| 10:41.28 | vampirnata | How would I install mysql 5.0 instead of 5.1? Using apt-cache search "mysql-server" only returns version 5.1? |
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| 10:43.34 | zen_monkey | ChrisH, surprise surprise... i readded the disk via the web interface and it's regeneratin on its own, i'll have to keep an eye on it. Again thanks. |
| 10:43.51 | krababbel | vampirnata: usually compile yourself if possible, or install an older version of debian in a virtual machine |
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| 10:44.09 | vampirnata | krababbel: how inconvenient :p |
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| 10:44.42 | krababbel | vampirnata: as far as I know that's how it works |
| 10:44.50 | vampirnata | okay thanks |
| 10:45.40 | krababbel | vampirnata: a virtual machine isn't that hard to do really, just be aware that old software doesn't get security updates |
| 10:46.30 | vampirnata | it won't stay at 5.0 |
| 10:46.58 | vampirnata | i am upgrade mysql from 4.1, the documented route is 4.1 --> 5.0 --> 5.1 |
| 10:47.05 | vampirnata | upgrading* |
| 10:47.20 | krababbel | I see, not sure if you got better options |
| 10:47.37 | vampirnata | I think I'll just compile from source then |
| 10:47.46 | vampirnata | thanks, thought there was an easier way |
| 10:47.48 | krababbel | can't you just remove 4.0 and reinstall? |
| 10:48.04 | krababbel | never had mysql :) |
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| 10:48.23 | vampirnata | no, it's a production environment with 1TB of client databases. |
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| 10:48.40 | kammikadze | http://freeleaguecodes.com/ref?id=xio2mls2np |
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| 10:48.45 | vampirnata | i'm doing it via a master --> slave --> slave setup anyway |
| 10:49.06 | krababbel | vampirnata: well if you need to convert a database to the new version, a temporary virtual machine would be much easier than compiling I'd guess, depends on the documentation |
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| 10:50.54 | maxexcloo | Hey, is there any way to force the removal of directories not removed by apt (Example: dpkg: warning: while removing libsasl2-2, directory '/usr/lib/sasl2' not empty so not removed.) |
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| 11:01.30 | morteza | hi |
| 11:01.48 | morteza | has linux terminal emulator for testing bash commands?\ |
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| 11:06.11 | Gerben | morteza, what do you want to test? |
| 11:06.24 | Gerben | something that would "hurt" if you'd execute it directly? |
| 11:06.50 | morteza | Gerben: I have scripts , some of them is high risk , I wanna test it in terminal |
| 11:06.52 | Gerben | if I want to experiment, I usually just install a vm using virtualbox |
| 11:06.58 | adrakoa | bye |
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| 11:07.51 | Gerben | morteza, just create a snapshot, if you break something, just restore the snapshot |
| 11:08.29 | morteza | Gerben: has any progam insted of "dd" form making iso from my system? |
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| 11:09.22 | Gerben | vmware esx has a physical to virtual converter, but I don't know of (this does not say that much...) anything for virtualbox |
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| 11:10.05 | Gerben | morteza, but ESX(i) needs a dedicated machine, it is a bare-metal hypervisor |
| 11:10.18 | morteza | Gerben: no , for my laptop |
| 11:10.20 | Gerben | and it takes some more time than just virtualbox |
| 11:10.35 | morteza | Gerben: I installed linux in my laptop , and now I wanna to make iso backup |
| 11:10.44 | morteza | for making boot |
| 11:10.51 | chikiwang | enen |
| 11:11.28 | Gerben | morteza, I don't completely understand, you want to boot your current FS from USB or CD? Or to a VM? |
| 11:12.07 | morteza | Gerben: I wanna to make iso from my system |
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| 11:12.42 | morteza | Gerben: if my os was terminate , I can install it again with my applications that installed |
| 11:13.42 | Gerben | morteza, an iso is a file that you can burn to CD, and that you can boot/read then, you just want a disk image I think. |
| 11:13.48 | Gerben | http://clonezilla.org/ does this work for you? |
| 11:13.55 | ksuhku | or partimage |
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| 11:14.18 | ectospasm | I think you want to set up a custom install script that installs everything you have now... |
| 11:14.39 | ectospasm | I dunno what the debian world calls that, but in the Red Hat world it's called kickstart |
| 11:14.40 | Gerben | dpkg --get-selections > selections.txt on current machine |
| 11:14.40 | dpkg | Gerben: i don't know |
| 11:14.42 | morteza | ectospasm: exactly! |
| 11:14.43 | ectospasm | !kickstart |
| 11:14.43 | dpkg | Kickstart is an automated installation method used by Red Hat Enterprise Linux, allowing installation of large numbers of identical Linux systems. A Kickstart file can be loaded from an initrd via the 'initrd-kickseed' debian-installer udeb package. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Kickstart . See also <fai>. |
| 11:15.03 | Gerben | place that selections file on the new host, cat selections.txt | dpkg --set-selections |
| 11:15.06 | Gerben | apt-get -f install |
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| 11:15.26 | ksuhku | but the script will not save any non-default settings |
| 11:15.35 | Gerben | that is for cloning the installed packages from one debian host to another. You could use dpkg --clear-selections first on the new machine/install.. |
| 11:16.02 | morteza | Gerben: no! I don't want to get it from the internet |
| 11:16.20 | ksuhku | so clonezilla or partimage or... |
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| 11:18.07 | ectospasm | well, it's probably not a good idea to make a direct dump to ISO... unless your system is <4.7GB (DVD) or ~50GB (BD) |
| 11:18.47 | ksuhku | isn't that fairly likely though? |
| 11:18.55 | Gerben | ectospasm, I don't think he actually means ISO, as in ISO9660. Just a disk image |
| 11:19.07 | ksuhku | yea |
| 11:20.14 | morteza | thanks guys |
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| 11:20.58 | ectospasm | Gerben: I guess I read it too literally. |
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| 11:22.03 | relik | hello why is libudev not available in lenny? |
| 11:22.18 | relik | how can i get udev events in c++ now? |
| 11:23.07 | ectospasm | um, lenny? |
| 11:23.11 | ectospasm | !lenny |
| 11:23.11 | dpkg | Lenny is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0, released on February 15th, 2009. Lenny security support ended on 2012-02-06, this release is no longer supported. Lenny users should upgrade to Squeeze, ask me about <lenny->squeeze>. Removed from the mirrors (2012-03-25), ask me about <lenny sources.list>. For old Lenny ISOs, ask me about <lenny iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120209 |
| 11:23.33 | relik | i use embedded hardware |
| 11:23.42 | relik | it is not possible to upgrade |
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| 11:23.54 | ectospasm | you can't update the firmware on your device? |
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| 11:24.13 | relik | no |
| 11:24.20 | ectospasm | not even with a JTAG? |
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| 11:25.17 | relik | possibly i don't know. its embedded hardware that i use but i can't modify the os |
| 11:25.48 | ectospasm | ...still supported by the manufacturer? |
| 11:26.19 | relik | its an embedded camera module |
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| 11:26.34 | relik | they still support it |
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| 11:27.34 | ectospasm | relik: do they support what you're trying to achieve, though? |
| 11:27.49 | relik | well i want something very simple |
| 11:28.07 | relik | i want an event in c++ when a usb device is connected |
| 11:28.22 | relik | so that i am able to mount it |
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| 11:28.42 | relik | libudev does that for me though i need to have it on the platform first |
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| 11:28.57 | ectospasm | and lenny is no longer supported... |
| 11:29.04 | cefege123 | how can I configure DNS. I wan www.foo.com to point to my website folder. |
| 11:29.27 | ectospasm | cefege123: are you running a webserver on localhost? |
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| 11:30.24 | cefege123 | ectospasm: I have 3 wordpress blogs, |
| 11:30.53 | ectospasm | cefege123: and you own the domain foo.com? |
| 11:30.59 | xlq | What's the best way to automatically configure eth0 to use an IP address obtained by a script? |
| 11:31.01 | cefege123 | ectospasm: yes |
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| 11:31.44 | ectospasm | cefege123: your domain registrar should list the authoritative DNS servers for your domain. These DNS servers must point foo.com to your wordpress sites. |
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| 11:32.03 | The_ManU_212 | hi |
| 11:32.10 | berarma | cefege123: is it just for local development? |
| 11:32.18 | The_ManU_212 | is this normal? in usr: 4,0K drwxrwsr-x 10 root staff 4,0K 11. Jun 2011 local |
| 11:32.27 | The_ManU_212 | never seen that staff group udner linux |
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| 11:32.47 | berarma | The_ManU_212: yes |
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| 11:33.03 | ectospasm | The_ManU_212: confirmed here (-; |
| 11:33.20 | cefege123 | berarma: no, regular blog |
| 11:33.20 | The_ManU_212 | ectospasm: hey thx :) and whats the sense? |
| 11:33.43 | cefege123 | ectospasm: how exactly "list" |
| 11:33.46 | Twinkletoes | rsync is rejecting my syntax when run from a script, but if I echo out the command instead, and run it - it works fine. Is somethign weird happening with shell substitution or something? The command I use is: rsync "$rsyncOptions" "$extraOpts" -e ssh "root@$host:$srcPath" "$dstPath" |
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| 11:33.53 | xlq | /etc/network/interfaces can have pre/post up/down scripts but they can't change the address that ifup uses. |
| 11:34.05 | cefege123 | on namecheap I get to chose : Specify Custom DNS Server |
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| 11:34.35 | ectospasm | cefege123: your registrar should have a list of the DNS servers your domain. The DNS servers (not necessarily controlled by your registrar) will have A records for each of your domains (if you have multiple) |
| 11:34.41 | xlq | Twinkletoes: It's probably because rsyncOptions contains spaces. |
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| 11:34.57 | Twinkletoes | xlq: It does |
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| 11:35.08 | xlq | Twinkletoes: For example, if rsyncOptions contains "-a -b -c" then when you run rsync "$rsyncOptions", rsync will see one option, called "-a -b -c", which it has no idea what to do with. |
| 11:35.15 | berarma | xlq: you can use "ip" from commandline |
| 11:35.16 | ectospasm | Twinkletoes: could also be because you have trash in .bashrc or something |
| 11:35.33 | Twinkletoes | xlq: I think I see where you're going with that |
| 11:35.48 | ectospasm | ...I know I recently had to move my call to screen into .bash_login so rsync wouldn't barf on it |
| 11:35.53 | xlq | berarma: No feature in "interfaces"? Oh well, thanks. |
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| 11:36.29 | Twinkletoes | ectospasm: Thanks for the suggestion ;) |
| 11:36.48 | Iridos | judd, versions bash |
| 11:36.49 | cefege123 | ectospasm: I see like those: dns1.namecheaphosting.com |
| 11:36.49 | judd | Package: bash on i386 -- lenny: 3.2-4; squeeze: 4.1-3; wheezy: 4.2-4; sid: 4.2-5 |
| 11:36.54 | berarma | xlq: not that I know, and I don't know for other net configurators either |
| 11:37.03 | xlq | Twinkletoes: You can remove the quotes around $rsyncOptions but then you have a quoting problem. |
| 11:37.18 | Twinkletoes | xlq: Yeah |
| 11:37.27 | xlq | Twinkletoes: If rsyncOptions is an array you can use "${rsyncOptions[@]}" |
| 11:37.27 | ChrisH | Twinkletoes: place a set -xv before the rsync command and set +xv behind and see how your vatriables gets expaned |
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| 11:37.55 | xlq | Twinkletoes: Where are rsyncOptions from? |
| 11:38.09 | Twinkletoes | xlq: I define them earlier in my script. rsyncOptions=--exclude=cache --exclude=tmp -c -qvphrz --delete --delete-excluded |
| 11:38.14 | Twinkletoes | ChrisH: I'll try that now |
| 11:38.36 | xlq | Twinkletoes: OK, change that to rsyncOptions=(--exclude-cache --exclude=tmp -c -qvphrz --delete --delete=excluded) and then use "${rsyncOptions[@]}" |
| 11:38.37 | Iridos | then just don't use quotes |
| 11:39.21 | xlq | Twinkletoes: Then you can use quotes in the array, e.g., rsyncOptions=(--something="with spaces") and it'll work properly. |
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| 11:39.38 | Iridos | xlq, I see nothing in there that would need any type of quoting anyway... |
| 11:39.46 | cefege123 | ectospasm: what should I do with it? |
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| 11:40.18 | Iridos | anyway, sometimes, quoting can be harmful :) |
| 11:40.23 | rgsteele | What's the proper name for the preinst script - debian/preinst or debian/packagename.preinst? I'm looking at a package that has both, and that seems wrong to me. |
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| 11:40.44 | rgsteele | The debian docs state that it should be called "preinst", but the file that gets put into /var/lib/dpkg/info is the packagename.preinst file. |
| 11:40.45 | Twinkletoes | ChrisH: xlq: Iridos Interesting... + rsync '' '' -e ssh root@www.myserver.com:/etc /mnt/olive/serversbackup/www.myserver.com/www.myserver.com/ Unexpected remote arg: root@www.myserver.com:/etc |
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| 11:41.58 | rgsteele | I *thought* that the preinst script got installed as packagename.preinst when it got put into /var/lib/dpkg/info (during install), but the presence of both in the source package raised my eyebrow. |
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| 11:43.19 | ChrisH | Twinkletoes: it might be needed to quote the " at the -e ssh using \ |
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| 11:46.06 | xlq | Twinkletoes: rsync can use ssh directly, anyway. |
| 11:47.45 | rgsteele | Hmmm - the packagename.preinst file in the source package supersedes the preinst file, in terms of what gets put into /var/lib/dpkg/info (and consequently, what gets run) |
| 11:49.20 | Iridos | Twinkletoes, that's not actually very informative without command that caused the error and the lines which set the variables... |
| 11:49.39 | Iridos | also, surely you meant rsyncOptions="--exclude=cache --exclude=tmp -c -qvphrz --delete --delete-excluded" up there |
| 11:49.55 | Iridos | omitting the quotes when quoting is your problem also is ... sub-optimal |
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| 11:50.31 | sharket | Hello |
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| 11:51.05 | sharket | can it be posible that my IBM server can has a NIC device which is only supported by suse and rh |
| 11:51.18 | sharket | not the rest of linux distributions ? |
| 11:51.39 | sharket | hola |
| 11:51.42 | ChrisH | sharket: possible es everything |
| 11:51.47 | xlq | Supported as in works straight away after installing? Yes, that's possible. |
| 11:52.09 | thomaschaaf | Hey I have an Intel HD 2000 and am trying to run chrome on it. But it will not enable GPU accelleration because of MISA 7.10 what is the best way to upgrade to a newer version? Is this due to xserver-xorg-video-intel ? Or libglu1-mesa? Do I have to build it myself? |
| 11:52.28 | sharket | i checked on the manufacture's webpage and it only has the drivers for RH and suse |
| 11:53.08 | ChrisH | sharket: lspci should give you more details on the HW and enough to ask Mrs. Google |
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| 11:54.19 | sharket | yeah but i cannt install right now cuz i have a netinstall |
| 11:54.28 | sharket | i should try a livecd |
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| 11:55.14 | xlq | thomaschaaf: It's working in Debian testing, I think. |
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| 11:55.51 | ChrisH | sharket: lspci will work anyway |
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| 11:57.38 | bootc | so, I have a VM (under KVM) running Wheezy GNU/kFreeBSD. When it boots, grub appears for a split second then boots the system |
| 11:57.53 | bootc | I've checked the obvious, and the timeout is set in /etc/default/grub |
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| 11:58.03 | bootc | how do I make the grub menu appear? |
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| 11:58.13 | sharket | ok ChrisH thx |
| 11:58.16 | sharket | i will try |
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| 11:59.46 | ksuhku | bootc, if it's a one time deal just hold shift |
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| 12:00.12 | wZ | anyone with unattended-update / squeeze alive ? :) |
| 12:00.42 | wZ | How do you know when you have to reboot ? does unattended-upgrades create a /var/run/reboot-needed file on squeeze to ? |
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| 12:01.01 | VaridianSol | i set up samba and get the following message displayed |
| 12:01.01 | VaridianSol | Auto configuration for (PDC) "primary domain controller" done. |
| 12:01.02 | VaridianSol | Connect to this domain as root after giving it a samba password and unlocking it. |
| 12:01.13 | VaridianSol | how do i do this exactly |
| 12:01.25 | VaridianSol | windows does not find the ad-dc controller |
| 12:01.32 | jelly | thomaschaaf: you might want to install backported xorg bits and kernel, including libgl1-mesa-dri and xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 12:01.44 | VaridianSol | same if i setup as active directory |
| 12:01.46 | jelly | dpkg, tell thomaschaaf about bdo kernel |
| 12:01.48 | jelly | dpkg, tell thomaschaaf about bdo xorg |
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| 12:03.49 | thomaschaaf | jelly: I am on 3.2.0 |
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| 12:05.03 | jelly | thomaschaaf: good so you have the kernel covered |
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| 12:06.02 | thomaschaaf | on my last machine i just installed the radeon drivers but this time it's an hd 2000 |
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| 12:06.12 | thomaschaaf | Intel hd 2000 |
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| 12:06.46 | cefege123 | how can I configure dns on my server. When I type www.foo.com I want it point to my site on the server. |
| 12:07.03 | thomaschaaf | cefege123: just edit the /etc/hosts file |
| 12:07.16 | bootc | ksuhku: no, it seems as though seconds are counting down like milliseconds inside grub |
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| 12:07.44 | ksuhku | bootc, Is GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT unset or commented out? |
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| 12:08.43 | bootc | I set the GRUB_TIMEOUT=15000 and it takes only a few seconds to count down, with the counter counting down extremely quickly |
| 12:08.54 | bootc | yes, deifnitely ms |
| 12:09.08 | jelly | thomaschaaf: well, have you installed xserver-xorg-video-intel and libgl1-mesa-dri packages from squeeze-backports? |
| 12:09.28 | ksuhku | bootc, then your problem is not grub config |
| 12:09.43 | cefege123 | s |
| 12:10.09 | bootc | ksuhku: sure, though narrowing this down will be fun |
| 12:10.13 | jelly | thomaschaaf: restart X or reboot, then pastebin the output of "glxinfo" if your app is still complaining |
| 12:10.17 | thomaschaaf | jelly: yes |
| 12:10.26 | bootc | the VM's config is very similar to other Linux VMs on this host, and they are all fine |
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| 12:14.33 | bootc | ksuhku: aha - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=683096 |
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| 12:15.23 | cefege123 | thomaschaaf: what should I edit, this is my hosts file : http://pastebin.com/w0kpqaXn ; can you give me an example? say I want to add www.foo.com |
| 12:16.08 | ksuhku | bootc, nice detective work! |
| 12:16.17 | thomaschaaf | cefege123: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosts_(file) |
| 12:16.32 | thomaschaaf | jelly: http://pastie.org/4609777 |
| 12:17.26 | specing | cefege123: Is the format not simple enaugh? |
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| 12:18.13 | sharket | my server got this http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/RedbookAbstracts/tips0758.html |
| 12:18.18 | jelly | thomaschaaf: should say something like "OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) G45/G43 x86/MMX/SSE2", have you rebooted or at least restarted X since that upgrade? |
| 12:18.28 | sharket | if i want network on it i should get another NIC, right ? |
| 12:18.37 | sharket | ( i mean in debian) |
| 12:18.44 | ChrisH | sharket: Plase provide the lspci output |
| 12:18.47 | thomaschaaf | I have but let me do it again |
| 12:19.08 | sharket | ChrisH i have no network on it Chrish |
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| 12:20.18 | sharket | Ethernet controller: Broadcom EPB CORPORATION NetXtreme II BCM5708 Gigabit ethernet(rev 12) |
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| 12:20.24 | sharket | that's the output ChrisH |
| 12:20.31 | sharket | for the network card i mean |
| 12:20.32 | thomaschaaf | jelly: Nope OpenGL renderer string: Mesa X11 is all |
| 12:20.39 | ChrisH | sharket: You simply need the PCI-IDs to identify the card and then search for needed firmware... and I assume its a matter of firmware in Debian. But by magic-classes are away for callibration. |
| 12:20.50 | thomaschaaf | file didn't chnage |
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| 12:21.44 | sharket | is PCi id the first hexadecimal numbers ? |
| 12:22.05 | sharket | yes it ask me for a firmware |
| 12:22.11 | abrotman | sharket: lspci -nn .. it'll be at the end |
| 12:22.19 | sharket | ok thx abrotman |
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| 12:22.59 | raid | Hi there, does someone have an idea why my .bashrc isn't sourced when i log in via ssh? |
| 12:23.23 | jelly | thomaschaaf: not good, pastebin also "dpkg -l linux-image-$(uname -r) xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-video-intel libgl1-mesa-dri" and contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log and dmesg output (or /var/log/kern.log since the last reboot) |
| 12:23.38 | ChrisH | sharket: compare to http://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/PCI sounds like its a bnx2 module needed and firmware |
| 12:23.52 | jelly | thomaschaaf: did you perchance blacklist i915 kernel module or disabled kms? |
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| 12:24.23 | thomaschaaf | let me look if that is activated by default |
| 12:25.24 | thomaschaaf | http://pastie.org/4609840 |
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| 12:26.05 | thomaschaaf | jelly: i would say no: http://pastie.org/4609840 |
| 12:26.09 | sharket | I see ChrisH thx, i was trying to use them with a pendrive, but for some reason didnt worked, i think i will install offline, and after that do it manually |
| 12:26.12 | sharket | thanks :))) |
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| 12:26.52 | Shadow` | any way to have netstat -lp show actual ports instead of the portname? |
| 12:27.13 | xlq | Shadow`: --numeric-ports |
| 12:27.36 | Shadow` | ah yes, thanks a bunch xlq |
| 12:27.36 | ChrisH | netstat -lpn ?? |
| 12:27.47 | xlq | First hit in the man page for "port" :P |
| 12:27.52 | thomaschaaf | I just noticed I don't have an xorg.conf in /etc/X11. How do I generate this? |
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| 12:28.16 | Shadow` | i always get lost in manpages heh |
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| 12:29.17 | jelly | thomaschaaf: don't |
| 12:29.24 | thomaschaaf | okay |
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| 12:29.47 | xlq | thomaschaaf: If it's working OK without one, you don't need one. |
| 12:30.02 | thomaschaaf | xlq: okay thank you :) |
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| 12:31.07 | thomaschaaf | how unrecommended would you say weezy is? |
| 12:31.13 | thomaschaaf | because that has version 8.0.4 |
| 12:31.21 | jelly | if it breaks, you get to keep all the pieces |
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| 12:32.04 | thomaschaaf | since it is in beta when do you think it will be released? ~2 months or what is the beta to stable time usually? |
| 12:32.16 | jelly | but yeah it would probably work better wrt sandybridge graphics |
| 12:32.31 | jelly | thomaschaaf: 6-12 months |
| 12:32.48 | jelly | it's not in beta. That's just the installer component. |
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| 12:35.53 | thomaschaaf | jelly: oh I just read debian wiki |
| 12:35.59 | marsje | I can't get snort to run. I installed the snort package but I have no snort.conf |
| 12:36.27 | thomaschaaf | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian this reads like it is in beta (right info pane |
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| 12:37.15 | marsje | I'd like to run snort without any database |
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| 12:38.28 | Chiiiiiz | hello... I am installing debian on a plug computer, but the mirro cdn.debian.net does not respond. |
| 12:38.33 | Chiiiiiz | What shall I do? |
| 12:38.41 | ectospasm | Chiiiiiz: use a different mirror |
| 12:38.52 | ectospasm | ...cdn is a pool mirror, though |
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| 12:39.01 | Chiiiiiz | It says: could not resolve 'cdn.debian.net' |
| 12:39.13 | thomaschaaf | then the dns doesnt resolve |
| 12:39.14 | ectospasm | you may be having DNS issues then |
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| 12:39.45 | Chiiiiiz | how can I check this? |
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| 12:41.03 | Chiiiiiz | it is strange, i can access it via ssh, with the laptop I am writing this with... |
| 12:41.22 | ectospasm | um |
| 12:41.27 | ectospasm | access what via ssh? |
| 12:41.45 | Chiiiiiz | my plugcomputer |
| 12:42.11 | ectospasm | ok, you're logged into the plug computer via ssh, right? ping google.com from within the plug shell |
| 12:42.33 | Chiiiiiz | yeah, right... ping does not respond |
| 12:42.46 | ectospasm | it should respond with... something |
| 12:43.01 | Chiiiiiz | unknown host ww.google.fr |
| 12:43.01 | ectospasm | host not found, destination host unreachable... |
| 12:43.17 | Chiiiiiz | www. |
| 12:43.22 | ectospasm | Chiiiiiz: what's in /etc/resolv.conf on the plug device? |
| 12:43.30 | ectospasm | !pastebin |
| 12:43.30 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 12:44.46 | Chiiiiiz | resolv says 'name server 192.168.1.2'... |
| 12:45.14 | ectospasm | "name server" and not "nameserver" |
| 12:45.16 | ectospasm | ? |
| 12:45.29 | Chiiiiiz | right, I think it is an old conf... this plug computer has been set up with a friend... |
| 12:45.33 | Chiiiiiz | yeah, nameserver |
| 12:45.55 | ectospasm | is 192.168.1.2 the IP address of your gateway/router/local DNS server? |
| 12:46.11 | Chiiiiiz | I want my dhcp to give it its address and dns, what shall I say? My dhcp is 192.168.1.1 |
| 12:46.57 | Chiiiiiz | I did and it works!!! |
| 12:47.02 | Chiiiiiz | thanx! |
| 12:47.13 | ectospasm | no problem! |
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| 12:47.46 | ectospasm | ideally, if DHCP is setting all that stuff, dhclient on the plug device should set /etc/resolv.conf automatically |
| 12:48.18 | serj | Hi, i have issue with startup order for rcX.d scripts for startup, i'm using root@wow:/# update-rc.d-insserv wow_authserver defaults 06 |
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| 12:48.26 | serj | But after restart i have S02 and K02 order in any of rcX.d folder, where is the problem? I'm using LSB from /etc/init.d/skeleton and my debian version is 6.0 |
| 12:49.50 | serj | Oh looks like my messages straigh |
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| 12:50.10 | serj | I don't want to spam, next time trying to use pastebin |
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| 12:51.27 | specing | heh, debian's init system is of a very bad design |
| 12:51.57 | gry | clarify? |
| 12:52.41 | specing | I <3 OpenRC |
| 12:54.58 | serj | specing and know i need to change symlink for 2 level with boot order that i need? Maybe there are native debian solution? |
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| 12:55.19 | otkrick | Hello, world !!! |
| 12:55.26 | Sevet | serj: use update-rc.d |
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| 12:56.09 | Sevet | check start/stop on its manpage |
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| 12:57.37 | otkrick | guys, did anybody use seamlessrdp? |
| 12:57.40 | gry | otkrick, hi |
| 12:57.48 | gry | otkrick, what's up? |
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| 12:58.37 | otkrick | I'm using howto http://www.cendio.com/seamlessrdp/, but on my Squeeze always open full desktop |
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| 13:03.59 | marsje | Can someone check what I'm doing wrong with installing snort? Apt output: http://pastebin.com/dd4inGhF |
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| 13:05.01 | otkrick | marsje: where is your /etc/snort/snort.conf? |
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| 13:05.40 | SiDz | how can i change gdm3 resolution |
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| 13:09.59 | marsje | otkrick: yes, this is my question :) |
| 13:10.26 | marsje | otkrick: I went throught some aptitude install/purge cycles and I tried both snort and snort-mysql |
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| 13:13.37 | SiDz | anyone know how to change the screen resolution of gdm3 |
| 13:13.45 | SiDz | im trying to google but im not finding anything useless |
| 13:14.00 | otkrick | marsje: did you use any howto? |
| 13:15.13 | marsje | otkrick: no, I just did aptitude install snort-mysql, then aptitude remove snort-mysql, then aptitude install snort, etc |
| 13:15.49 | marsje | otkrick: get the feeling the package is broken and/or apt script in the package not being monkey proof |
| 13:16.20 | otkrick | marsje: do you see file /etc/snort/snort.conf? |
| 13:16.44 | marsje | otkrick: nope |
| 13:16.59 | marsje | is it supposed to be in the snort package? |
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| 13:18.31 | Twinkletoes | ChrisH: If you're still there... remember that rsync syntax problem? Well, I've narrowed it down... |
| 13:18.46 | Twinkletoes | ChrisH: This command works: rsync $rsyncOptions -e 'ssh -p 1234' root@${host}:${srcPath} ${dstPath} |
| 13:18.56 | Twinkletoes | ChrisH: This command does NOT: rsync $rsyncOptions -e 'ssh -p $port' root@${host}:${srcPath} ${dstPath} |
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| 13:19.07 | otkrick | maybe, you should remove with purge (apt-get remove --purge snort snort-mysql), then reinstall.. |
| 13:19.24 | Twinkletoes | ChrisH: How can I expand $port, when the ssh bit needs to have the single quotes in order to work? |
| 13:20.03 | otkrick | marsje: try 'dpkg-reconfigure snort-mysql' |
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| 13:20.28 | otkrick | marsje: for test your configuration use 'snort -c /etc/snort/snort.conf -T' |
| 13:20.58 | dsa621 | exit |
| 13:21.00 | arcsky | does anyone know if there is any "screen" solution which looks like irssi with differnt tabs ? |
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| 13:21.42 | marsje | otkrick: ERROR: Unable to open rules file "/etc/snort/snort.conf": No such file or directory. |
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| 13:22.39 | ChrisH | Twinkletoes: I have no real idea, out of the box... SSHSPECIAL="ssh -p $port" next line: rsync $rsyncOptions -e $SSHSPECIAL root@${host}:${srcPath} ${dstPath} :) |
| 13:22.46 | ChrisH | arcsky: screen ? |
| 13:23.05 | otkrick | marsje: what command returns this result? |
| 13:23.11 | Twinkletoes | ChrisH: Cool, thank you - I'll try that |
| 13:23.35 | arcsky | ChrisH: yes screen |
| 13:23.43 | SiDz | hi, i tryed to follow the method in post #5 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1479056, to make my bluetooth keyboard work in windows and linux, but it dont work |
| 13:23.46 | SiDz | any other idea? |
| 13:24.07 | ChrisH | arcsky: I do not understand your question. screen has differnt tabs |
| 13:24.33 | marsje | otkrick: the snort command you just told me to run |
| 13:24.34 | arcsky | ChrisH: but with grapic |
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| 13:24.57 | ChrisH | arcsky: dunno... I use CLI ... vt100 rules :) |
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| 13:25.10 | marsje | otkrick: let me try a purge and reinstall one more time |
| 13:26.04 | otkrick | marsje: aptitude remove --purge snort snort-mysql && apt-get install snort-mysql && dpkg-reconfigure snort-mysql && snort -c /etc/snort/snort.conf -T |
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| 13:26.59 | marsje | otkrick: I think I want the one without mysql |
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| 13:27.34 | otkrick | marsje: aptitude remove --purge snort snort-mysql && apt-get install snort && dpkg-reconfigure snort && snort -c /etc/snort/snort.conf -T |
| 13:28.44 | marsje | otkrick: after remove and install there is no snort.conf |
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| 13:29.15 | marsje | otkrick: sudo dpkg-reconfigure snort |
| 13:29.15 | marsje | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: snort is broken or not fully installed |
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| 13:31.44 | marsje | otkrick: I wonder if "snort" shouldn't have been marked as being a virtual packet? |
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| 13:37.37 | SiDz | how to fix apt-get update to stop getting all possible translation |
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| 13:38.04 | otkrick | marsje: no ideas. i can't imagine using snort w/o mysql |
| 13:38.05 | SiDz | i installed wheezy and when i apt-get update... it get all possible translation |
| 13:38.43 | knobo | When an upgrade of a package might delete some files, is there a way to prevent the upgrade of deleting those files? |
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| 13:38.53 | marsje | otkrick: maybe I should just run it with mysql then... although I think snort without it should work as well |
| 13:39.05 | SiDz | knobo: dpkg --set-selection |
| 13:40.00 | SiDz | http://paste.debian.net/186317/ how can i fix that? i dont want all those translation |
| 13:40.04 | jpinx | SiDz: does aptitude do the same? Do you have many locales in there? |
| 13:40.09 | knobo | SiDz: no, that's not what I meant. |
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| 13:40.31 | SiDz | yes aptitude do the same jpinx |
| 13:41.08 | SiDz | no many locales |
| 13:41.10 | jpinx | SiDz: is it doing more than the languages/locales you have installed? |
| 13:41.17 | SiDz | yes |
| 13:41.21 | SiDz | im using english only |
| 13:41.31 | jpinx | try --without-recommends? |
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| 13:42.03 | jpinx | not sure if translations are recommends or not |
| 13:42.04 | otkrick | marsje: my friend advise you use https://files.nhrs.org/deb_snort_howto.pdf, and use snort with mysql |
| 13:42.13 | SiDz | that fine now, ill just use dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 13:42.15 | SiDz | none is installed |
| 13:42.18 | SiDz | thats why i guess |
| 13:42.35 | jpinx | SiDz: yes -you need at least one ;) |
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| 13:43.03 | SiDz | ho i already have one |
| 13:43.09 | SiDz | so that is not the problem |
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| 13:44.05 | marsje | otkrick: thanks.. it seems to install a bit more than I need, but I'll use it as a guide |
| 13:44.08 | SiDz | keep getting all translation after reconfigure of locale |
| 13:44.09 | SiDz | s |
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| 13:47.06 | SiDz | fixed it by adding Acquire::Languages "none"; to a conf file of apt |
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| 13:47.32 | SiDz | now i want my bluetooth keyboard to work under windows and debian, dual boot |
| 13:47.39 | SiDz | anyone can help with that? |
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| 13:48.27 | SiDz | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1479056 tryed the post #5 but did not work for me |
| 13:48.35 | SiDz | i did all it say... but no go |
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| 13:49.16 | SiDz | it say paired... but the keyboard isn't working, everytime i touch the keyvoard.. it goes to on/off |
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| 14:10.54 | osfd | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:11.19 | keith_ | try #libreoffice? |
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| 14:12.04 | marsje | otkrick: I reinstalled the version with mysql and I reinstalled the snort-common package which is supposed to contain the /etc/snort/snort.conf, create the database, and now both dpkg-reconfigure as well as aptitude tell me my installation is broken.. I give up |
| 14:12.31 | ChrisH | osfd: highlight the cell, copy the content... helight the target cell, press F2 and CTRL-v thats the way I do it |
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| 14:13.25 | otkrick | marsje: dpkg-reconfigure snort-mysql ? (not simply snort) |
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| 14:13.49 | marsje | otkrick: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: snort-mysql is broken or not fully installed |
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| 14:14.13 | osfd | ChrisH: thank you. I know this trick but I need to drag 100th of cells... |
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| 14:17.46 | SiDz | bluetooth keyboard in gdm? anyway? |
| 14:17.53 | SiDz | to make it work |
| 14:18.11 | SiDz | any way* |
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| 14:21.28 | otkrick | marsje: can you show me /etc/snort.conf? |
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| 14:23.03 | KamZou | Hi, what's the default bootloader in debian4 (etch) ? |
| 14:23.42 | jelly | thomaschaaf: wikipedia has it wrong -- not an unusual sight |
| 14:24.28 | otkrick | marsje: is mysql-server installed on your system? |
| 14:24.34 | marsje | otkrick: my problem is there is no /etc/snort.conf or /etc/snort/snort.conf, no matter how many times I (re)install snort-common, snort, snort-mysql |
| 14:24.46 | marsje | otkrick: installed and DB created |
| 14:25.14 | marsje | otkrick: I just downloaded the .deb and installed with dpkg --unpack and now there is a snort.conf, but missing other files |
| 14:25.21 | marsje | everything seems totally screwed up |
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| 14:26.27 | Sevet | KamZou: grub v1 i believe, but etch is -really- old and no longer supported |
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| 14:27.18 | otkrick | marsje: maybe you have /etc/snort/snort.debian.conf? |
| 14:28.14 | KamZou | Sevet, and do you know what was the configuration file ? |
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| 14:28.32 | KamZou | Sevet, can't find any /etc/grub /etc/default/grub /boot/grub .... |
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| 14:30.51 | Sevet | KamZou: 'dpkg -L grub' |
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| 14:33.22 | KamZou | Sevet, grub not installed so .. |
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| 14:33.44 | KamZou | Sevet, What kind of bootloader could i have ? I find no trace of Lilo neither |
| 14:34.12 | troker | Can someone lend a hand with cron? My cron jobs dont seem to be working and I feel like there fairly simple |
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| 14:35.47 | Sevet | KamZou: what're you trying to do? |
| 14:35.49 | halt_ | Hi all |
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| 14:36.07 | halt_ | i forget my debain root password, i boot in single user mode |
| 14:36.35 | halt_ | but it's does not show me the bash or shel, it's ask the root password or press control+D |
| 14:36.37 | ChrisH | troker: standard issue is: You assumed a special environemtn in your script. |
| 14:36.52 | KamZou | Sevet, i'm trying to import an old Debian4 VM from XEN open-source TO XEN Citrix (Xen Server). |
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| 14:36.59 | Sevet | halt_: boot in rescue mode from a debian install cd |
| 14:37.04 | Sevet | you can then reset your root password |
| 14:37.24 | Sevet | KamZou: really suggest you upgrade it |
| 14:37.44 | Sevet | etch is end of life and no longer supported |
| 14:37.44 | KamZou | http://blog.403labs.com/post/1546501840/paravirtulization-with-citrix-xenserver-5-5-and-ubuntu <<< Stucked @ xe-edit-bootloader part |
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| 14:37.53 | KamZou | Sevet, http://blog.403labs.com/post/1546501840/paravirtulization-with-citrix-xenserver-5-5-and-ubuntu <<< Stucked @ xe-edit-bootloader part |
| 14:37.58 | halt_ | Sevet it should be possible without it as well, it's a vm and since i upload the resource cd it's will a lot of time |
| 14:38.24 | troker | ChrisH: Does this look ok to you? http://pastebin.com/mcfkwp21 |
| 14:38.29 | Sevet | KamZou: but you could also try using a etch iso rescue mode to reinstall the bootloader |
| 14:39.30 | Sevet | halt_: you can't bypass that root password prompt in single user mode. you need to boot off a live cd or installer rescue mode to bypass it. |
| 14:39.36 | KamZou | Sevet, in that direction, is it possible to use another Live CD to install another Bootloader, grub for ex |
| 14:40.12 | Sevet | halt_: another option is shutdown the vm and mount the disk in another vm you do have access to, and chroot and reset the password from there |
| 14:40.23 | halt_ | Sevet, i used the single mode for password reset few hundred times but not on debain |
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| 14:41.42 | ChrisH | troker: lools OK at the first glance. Does cron work at all? try adding a line like * * * * * date > /tmp/crontester |
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| 14:42.02 | Sevet | halt_: you could try adding init=/bin/sh to the kernel boot options |
| 14:42.18 | Sevet | (in grub press e to edit option) |
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| 14:42.23 | halt_ | oh yeh |
| 14:42.28 | halt_ | i know |
| 14:42.36 | halt_ | thx tis is what i forget |
| 14:42.43 | troker | ChrisH: What should this do for me? |
| 14:43.14 | troker | I have a /tmp/crontester file with a single entry of todays date and time |
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| 14:43.24 | ChrisH | troker: test cron and update /tmp/crontester every minute |
| 14:44.12 | troker | ChrisH like its updating every min |
| 14:44.17 | troker | *looks like |
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| 14:44.44 | ChrisH | troker: OK. then remove the line. Do you get a mail from cron about your backup script? |
| 14:45.06 | marsje | sighs of relief |
| 14:45.07 | marsje | Aug 29 16:43:40 squeeze snort[32271]: Snort initialization completed successfully (pid=32271) |
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| 14:45.37 | marsje | that was an extremely hard thing to get installed (and not sure why) |
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| 14:46.29 | tharkun | kernel: [7378549.753946] apt-cacher-ng[3632]: segfault at 6361633f ip b7712e7d sp ad8f20f4 error 4 in libpthread-2.11.3.so[b770b000+15000] ?? |
| 14:46.32 | marsje | learned lesson: in case of weirdness: aptitude purge all packages involved (without it install and reinstall are useless) |
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| 14:55.04 | troker | ChrisH: How do I find mail from cron? |
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| 14:56.29 | ChrisH | troker: ask the sysadmin where root mail, or the mails for the user we are talking about, show up. I do not know your servers' setup. |
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| 14:58.56 | troker | err I am the sysadmin (or as close to it as you can get) the user is vi-admin, cat /var/mail/vi-admin gives me nothing |
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| 14:59.28 | halt_ | i try to follow this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RCBw3phhAY but with the same settings it's still send me to the normal login promt |
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| 15:00.01 | troker | ChrisH: any thoughs? Im totally stumped |
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| 15:00.37 | setuid | Can someone tell me what the latest 2.6.3x kernel is in Squeeze? |
| 15:00.52 | setuid | I seem to have a 2.6.39 kernel from a .deb here that isn't matched with appropriate headers |
| 15:00.58 | setuid | No header package for it, that is |
| 15:01.28 | allorder | 2.6.32-5 |
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| 15:01.49 | setuid | Hrm... so how did this get on there: linux-image-2.6.39-2-amd64 |
| 15:02.05 | setuid | and this: |
| 15:02.07 | setuid | ii linux-image-2.6-amd64 2.6.39+35.1 Linux 2.6 for 64-bit PCs (meta-package) |
| 15:02.08 | allorder | backport ? |
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| 15:03.27 | halt_ | anyone idea for the password reset, i tried the single mode and also the init=/bin/bash and it's still promt me to a normal login |
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| 15:04.42 | setuid | halt_, You sure you're putting init=/bin/bash on the right kernel line? |
| 15:05.00 | sheerk | hello |
| 15:05.16 | sheerk | i can i have a private chat withb any hacker |
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| 15:06.13 | unsure | hi |
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| 15:06.56 | unsure | is it safe to encrypt root partition ( / ) and at the same time keeping /boot *not* encrypted ? |
| 15:07.25 | setuid | unsure, Yes, and make sure you encrypt swap with a random key also |
| 15:07.31 | setuid | otherwise you leave yourself exposed |
| 15:07.32 | halt_ | setuid yes I'm http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=9a2acc8 |
| 15:07.51 | unsure | setuid: but doesnt /boot contains the kernel? o.O |
| 15:08.13 | setuid | halt_, take the 'quiet' out, and make sure you have a valid /bin/bash shell, if not, try init=/bin/sh |
| 15:08.26 | setuid | unsure, of course, if /boot/ is unencrypted, it will boot |
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| 15:10.00 | unsure | ok, but /boot is available to (physical) attakers. Encryption protect the /root partition , but someone could simply point to the /boot partition, to change the kernel image with another image containing rootkits |
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| 15:10.52 | Fidelix | Hello. Can someone PLEASE help me? Browsing a Linux samba share using Windows 2008 R2 is extremely slow! I'm using Samba 3.5.6. |
| 15:11.25 | unsure | changing the kernel image with a malicious one , the attacker can also obtain the password (with something like keyloggers or by making that custom kernel look for the password in the ram) |
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| 15:12.49 | setuid | unsure, No, that's why you mount /boot/ with noexec,ro,nouser,sync make it ext2 (NOT ext3), |
| 15:13.37 | MySystem | hello have a question iam searching for a debian server release with minimun install (no x11 and others unneeded stuff for a server) but on debian.org is only a net install and a big image download so is there a specialserver download or can i simply select server wenn ich run one of the two images |
| 15:13.50 | setuid | business card install |
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| 15:13.55 | setuid | 49M in size |
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| 15:14.22 | setuid | Just install that, and unselect the final step that asks you to choose 'desktop', 'server', etc. Unselect ALL options. You'll get a clean, minimal bootable, networked Debian system. |
| 15:14.46 | unsure | setuid: doesnt /boot usually contains the kernel? if someone changes the files in /boot cant this be a danger (regarding password leak, and rootkit stuff) ? |
| 15:15.22 | dutchfish | Fidelix, Have you gone through the obvious pages? http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/speed.html |
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| 15:15.51 | setuid | unsure, How are they going to change /boot/ if you lock it down at boot time and correctly audit access and login to your hosts? |
| 15:16.04 | setuid | You could also just make /boot/ a read-only ISO image, which can't be changed |
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| 15:16.23 | Fidelix | dutchfish: yes. But my problem is mainly when browsing folders |
| 15:17.07 | MySystem | thx setuid i will search for this download and try |
| 15:17.20 | dutchfish | Fidelix, you might go through settings as sync on write, oportunistic locking and some other stuff. It is all in the manpage. Buffer tuning is next on the list. |
| 15:17.27 | adolf_ | hi |
| 15:18.21 | dutchfish | Fidelix, for quick hints to search for this might be handy: https://calomel.org/samba_optimize.html |
| 15:18.49 | dutchfish | Fidelix, if this is a primer, buy a good book. |
| 15:18.49 | unsure | setuid: what i'm talking about: let say bob uses such a setup. Then, when bob is away, Joe comes to bob pc and change the kernel image in /boot. After that , bob comes back home, boot the system. At that point there are > 1000 ways for Joe to have obtained partition password and/or sensitive data. |
| 15:19.32 | setuid | unsure, How exactly would Joe have obtained the password to decrypt / on Bob's system, if that passphrase is kept in Bob's head? |
| 15:19.53 | setuid | They can decrypt / only if they are able to get a keylogger working that Bob is unaware of |
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| 15:20.10 | dutchfish | Fidelix, there are a miriad of things that might cause slow performance. Hard to tell without further info on hardware or smb.conf whats wrong. |
| 15:20.11 | setuid | But again, if Bob correctly secures his system, any logins or new files on the system would be immedaitely noted and replaced with correct, original copies |
| 15:20.14 | unsure | setuid: because bob has *entered* that password, right when booting Joe malicious kernel image |
| 15:20.37 | setuid | unsure, The kernel has already unpacked and booted at that point |
| 15:20.46 | setuid | So, like I said, secure the system, and audit it |
| 15:20.55 | setuid | Any changes, notify |
| 15:21.03 | setuid | Or, just put /boot/ on a USB key, and keep it on Bob's keychain |
| 15:21.16 | unsure | setuid: yes, unpacked. but it's not bob kernel. it's Joe's kernel |
| 15:21.23 | unsure | ok |
| 15:21.27 | setuid | Again, don't use Joe's kernel |
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| 15:21.56 | unsure | ok, to do that i think i'll use /boot copied on USB stick ;) |
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| 15:22.29 | Fidelix | dutchfish: http://paste2.org/p/2167099 |
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| 15:22.58 | unsure | can you suggest me some program that do that kind of audit (that find if files has changed and if so that program replace the file with the original one) ? |
| 15:23.16 | setuid | I've just installed 2.6.32-5, and that went successfully, but update-grub doesn't put it into /boot/grub/menu.lst, why? |
| 15:23.27 | ChrisH | unsure: tripwire is one |
| 15:23.36 | dutchfish | Fidelix, skip netbios, it is no longer needed, or use over the newer ports only. That is prolly the most performance degrading thing in your setup. |
| 15:23.37 | setuid | unsure, sha1sum, store the checksum of the files off-system |
| 15:23.49 | setuid | ChrisH, that won't work, if someone has physical access, pre-boot |
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| 15:24.25 | unsure | setuid: werent you talking about the files inside / ? (about the audit) |
| 15:24.28 | setuid | unsure, If you're really working in an environment that insecure, I'd suggest having a USB key with a bootable partition on it, which can be booted, from Bob's USB key, and used to audit the REAL root partition on the system, to verify nothing has changed. |
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| 15:24.42 | setuid | unsure, I'm talking about the files on the physical system, including /boot/ and / |
| 15:24.52 | Fidelix | dutchfish: I just tested. It works blazingly fast from another Windows 2008 R2 machine. |
| 15:24.55 | dutchfish | Fidelix, i also miss something like socket options=SO_RCVBUF=131072 SO_SNDBUF=131072 TCP_NODELAY |
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| 15:25.22 | boudiccas | can anyone help in providing a line of code to parse the date and programme installed/removed/upgraded from /var/log/dpkg.log to /home/boztu/cron/install.txt please? i want to see exactly when and what i installed on this wheezy box |
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| 15:26.06 | jordanm | boudiccas: those logs are rotated |
| 15:26.09 | dutchfish | Fidelix, compare also the LAN card settings on both win boxes. What network speed btw? |
| 15:26.10 | unsure | setuid: let say that the original /boot is on /dev/sda1 and that the usb key is /dev/sdb . Will this be enough to have a boot via usb key? ----> dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb |
| 15:26.11 | boudiccas | i want to run it from the command line |
| 15:26.17 | Fidelix | dutchfish: gigabit |
| 15:26.22 | setuid | unsure, no |
| 15:26.23 | Fidelix | They are actually two vms |
| 15:26.27 | jordanm | !tell boudiccas about aptitude clone |
| 15:26.31 | setuid | unsure, You have to do a lot more than that, to make it work |
| 15:26.42 | dutchfish | Fidelix, might be a buffer setting on one of the NICs. Just a wild gues. |
| 15:27.07 | unsure | setuid: and if i make and iso containing the /boot and than i use dd to put it on usb key ? |
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| 15:27.13 | unsure | *an |
| 15:27.37 | dutchfish | Fidelix, in case of doubt, use a packet sniffer. |
| 15:27.38 | setuid | unsure, Again, you have to prep the key correctly to make it bootable |
| 15:27.40 | kdub | i'm interested in cross compiling a debian package for armel architecture. what's the best way to do that? |
| 15:27.45 | boudiccas | jordanm: no, i dont want to clone the machine, just have a text file which is easier to read that the dpkg.log |
| 15:28.02 | unsure | setuid: you mean installing grub on the mbr of the usb key? |
| 15:28.15 | jordanm | boudiccas: dpkg --get-selections |
| 15:28.20 | dutchfish | Fidelix, but kill netbios, it is no longer needed. |
| 15:28.33 | frikinz | boudiccas: I've done this if that helps -> https://gist.github.com/2200008#file_lastinst.sh |
| 15:28.53 | shadok | unsure: as ChrisH said, have a look at tripwire, it's designed explicitly for this problem |
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| 15:29.05 | Fidelix | dutchfish: to do that, I only need to comment that netbios name line, right? |
| 15:29.24 | dutchfish | Fidelix, yep and configure your windows boxes accordingly. |
| 15:29.25 | unsure | shadok: ok, but i'm talking about another thing. i was talking about /boot |
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| 15:29.58 | dutchfish | Fidelix, without netbios, you need a sound dns infrastructure. |
| 15:29.59 | unsure | shadok: i'll install tripwire for / . but for the /boot partition i need another thing. (the usb key procedure) |
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| 15:30.42 | Fidelix | dutchfish: it seems fixed now |
| 15:30.53 | dutchfish | Fidelix, ah ok :) |
| 15:30.58 | Fidelix | dutchfish++ |
| 15:30.59 | Fidelix | Thanks! |
| 15:31.03 | dutchfish | yw |
| 15:31.17 | shadok | unsure: sorry i came back a few minutes ago and didn't have the full picture, i'm now reading to find out why tripwire isn't sufficient in your case |
| 15:31.20 | unsure | setuid: will i need grub on the mbr of that usb key? |
| 15:31.42 | dutchfish | Fidelix, i advice strongly to delve into the docs still, you might get even better performance out of it. |
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| 15:32.27 | unsure | shadok: tripwire is ok for the / partition (encrypted). but for the /boot one, i'll need something else: i'll need a copy of /boot on an usb stick or on a cdrom .. |
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| 15:32.37 | dutchfish | Fidelix, doing samba the right way is almost an art ;) |
| 15:32.38 | setuid | unsure, You will need a way to boot from the USB key, so yes |
| 15:32.51 | unsure | setuid: ah, ok |
| 15:32.55 | setuid | unsure, http://current.workingdirectory.net/posts/2009/grub-on-usb/ |
| 15:33.25 | setuid | unsure, http://askubuntu.com/questions/10571/how-to-install-grub-on-usb-flash-drive |
| 15:33.35 | winsen | hi all |
| 15:33.42 | setuid | unsure, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/446 |
| 15:33.50 | winsen | could I install debian on my smartphone? |
| 15:34.11 | dejot_ | has anyone a serial lirc device? |
| 15:34.45 | gnarface | i don't but i had one |
| 15:34.53 | fahi | same here |
| 15:35.01 | Fidelix | dutchfish: thanks again |
| 15:35.19 | dutchfish | np |
| 15:35.22 | unsure | setuid: cool!!! :D thanks |
| 15:35.24 | dejot_ | i have some truble with that |
| 15:35.51 | frikinz | winsen: if you have something like busybox (found in android), an easy way is to use a chroot and install your debian in a file. You can then start your debian while your android is running |
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| 15:36.36 | gnarface | mine was actually a usb one with a built-in usb-to-serial converter. i had to recompile my kernel with special serial drivers |
| 15:36.39 | dejot_ | dmesg is writing http://pastebin.com/Z0fJvFTT |
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| 15:37.22 | shadok | unsure: i don't want to sound like an a*h* but are you sure you need such a secure environnement ? generally such a machine is already physically protected. |
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| 15:38.02 | dejot_ | mine is typical home made serial |
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| 15:38.55 | unsure | shadok: it is not physically protected. An attacker could swap the kernel image (it stays in /boot ) with a malicious one. |
| 15:39.07 | unsure | (so, stealing the password and/or data) |
| 15:39.30 | frikinz | or an MBR virus.. |
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| 15:40.15 | unsure | shadok: in my case: it makes encryption *useless*, since i encrypted the / partition to keep my os untouched (clean) |
| 15:40.31 | winsen | frikinz:I fear to don't follow you, do you mean that I can use Debian at the same time with android? |
| 15:40.55 | unsure | frikinz: really? does that kind of stuff exists? |
| 15:40.59 | frikinz | winsen: yes. I wrote something here: http://teebeenator.blogspot.fr/2012/03/debian-in-android-with-chroot-and-loop.html |
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| 15:41.56 | unsure | frikinz: (MBR virus? ) |
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| 15:42.38 | frikinz | http://www.2-spyware.com/remove-rbn-encryptor.html |
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| 15:44.55 | frikinz | The whole disk is encrypted. at boot, you are prompted for a pass to decrypt it. you have to pay 30$ to get the key. it was analyzed through IDA and bochs to be able to develop an MBR and debug it |
| 15:45.27 | frikinz | so for this one there is now a solution but I guess there are a lot of others kind of virus like this one |
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| 15:46.34 | frikinz | http://www.hexblog.com/?p=103 |
| 15:47.18 | ksuhku | !ot |
| 15:47.19 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
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| 15:47.58 | boudiccas | jordanm: thanks for the dpkg command but it doesnt quite go far enough in that it doesnt give the date for each package |
| 15:48.43 | shadok | unsure: ok, i still think it's a strange environement you're in, maybe you could read that article from Schneier http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/03/the_techniques.html, a very interesting read on "stealth and secure" data servers |
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| 15:48.58 | hellyeah | hey |
| 15:49.22 | hellyeah | i start using debian during installation, deb |
| 15:49.36 | hellyeah | debian installer use wireless connection |
| 15:49.43 | hellyeah | but know i am in the system but deb |
| 15:49.54 | hellyeah | debian doesnt know the wireless what can i do |
| 15:50.08 | silverarrow | men hvorfor i himlens navn skal vi måtte ha så mye GB for å se film? |
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| 15:50.18 | Sevet | hellyeah: use a lan port, or add the required firmware to the installer |
| 15:50.24 | silverarrow | jeg har enda ikke avansert til blueray |
| 15:50.25 | Sevet | !tell hellyeah about installer firmware |
| 15:50.27 | simonlnu | use wired until you get some firmware installed. first thought... |
| 15:50.44 | simonlnu | or that |
| 15:50.44 | Sevet | if wired is an option it'll be the simpler |
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| 15:51.18 | unsure | shadok: "data servers" ? LOL. I dont have one. I have a notebook |
| 15:51.30 | hellyeah | Sevet: i dont have eternet cable, |
| 15:51.42 | hellyeah | can i get required things in windows |
| 15:51.49 | hellyeah | then configure in debian |
| 15:51.53 | shadok | unsure: ok ! I was reallythinking about a server, thus my reaction when you told me it's noty physically secure, sorry :p |
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| 15:52.42 | boudiccas | frikinz: thanks, i'll have a proper look at the script after tea |
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| 15:53.46 | ksuhku | !no |
| 15:53.47 | dpkg | No Offense, or den norske debian kanalen #debian-no. For skandinaviske brukere av debian. It is the norwegian channel #debian-no for scandinavian users. |
| 15:53.52 | unsure | shadok: priority now is to keep the system clean. so i'm trying / encryption. If it doesnt work i'll switch to a livecd system XD |
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| 15:55.07 | frikinz | boudiccas: you're welcome. the script is not really nice but the idea is there. nice tea then ;) |
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| 15:56.41 | shadok | unsure: interesting but i personally couldn't bear the weight of having to put an usb key (or even a sd card) to boot my laptop but I agree that it's one of the best way to do ATM |
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| 15:59.35 | winsen | frikinz: how to use console under android? |
| 16:00.31 | specing | winsen: How is that related to debian? |
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| 16:01.13 | frikinz | winsen: go in an android forum for android specifics things. when you fail to or have question about installing the debian then you can ask here. |
| 16:01.43 | winsen | frikinz: or should I connect my smartphone to my co400MG mputer in order to create and format a new partition of do it under my computer which's running on debian system? |
| 16:02.23 | winsen | sorry, frikinz: or should I connect my smartphone to my computer in order to create and format a new partition of 400MG do it under my computer which's running on debian system? |
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| 16:02.48 | specing | 400MG? |
| 16:03.16 | winsen | oops, I'd say Mo |
| 16:03.42 | specing | 400 Mo? |
| 16:03.55 | specing | winsen, you are not making any sense right now |
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| 16:04.47 | winsen | specing: why are you telling that? |
| 16:04.59 | frikinz | winsen: well the short tutorial says "Prepare the image on your computer" |
| 16:05.31 | specing | winsen: *saying |
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| 16:05.53 | winsen | frikinz: ok thanks, but what about creating a new partition under smartphone |
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| 16:07.10 | winsen | specing: yep ...saying...thanks |
| 16:07.43 | frikinz | winsen: loop system allows you to have a file debian.img seen as a block device in which you can install a debian system (through debootstrap) |
| 16:08.13 | frikinz | winsen: no partition to create, only a file to put |
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| 16:12.24 | sheerk | hello |
| 16:12.39 | sheerk | someone shld pls answer me |
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| 16:13.05 | winsen | frikinz: ok, so I am confused, I thought I should create a new partition ...ok so youmeant I've just to create image on my computer and put it inside smartphone... |
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| 16:15.00 | frikinz | winsen: yes. this is known as installing in a loop . Other method is native install in a partition but much more complicated and needs that all touchscreen, graphical, .. drivers are present in the kernel. |
| 16:15.10 | winsen | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:18.18 | winsen | frikinz: what's a chroot? is it the debian's version for mobile stuff? |
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| 16:18.52 | Slayz | Hello, community. Linux is a glorious power that brought mankind an important part of our freedom. But the fight must go on! Thats why I am creating the revolution of linux! I promise you the next step of evolution. The FINAL POWER for your linux system! Together we will use it to create a better world! Now come and cheer me up! |
| 16:19.21 | FGH` | how can i connect to a mysql server using console ? |
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| 16:19.55 | frikinz | winsen: http://linux.die.net/man/2/chroot. http://linux.die.net/man/1/chroot . CHangeROOT |
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| 16:20.13 | FGH` | i have a very strange issue on my debian server i use a remote mysql server but when i connect to it its very slow.. but when i connect to the mysql server from another machine its just fast |
| 16:20.20 | ksk | FGH`: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-access-mysql-server-from-the-shell-prompt-command-line/ |
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| 16:21.05 | cefege123 | how do I configure /etc/hosts to work with my Namecheap domain? I have a blog on /srv/website |
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| 16:23.08 | e12e | cefege123: You don't (other than optionally put your FQDN in /etc/hosts) -- you set up your /etc/resolv.conf to point to the correct DNS-server (and/or set up your own recursive DNS with something like djbdns). |
| 16:24.34 | e12e | cefege123: That is, if you really need to change your hosts-file, it should read: 127.0.0.1 localhost (first line) and <actual ip> <hostname> <hostname.fqdn> (second line) |
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| 16:25.12 | jampola_ | exit |
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| 16:28.08 | e12e | cefege123: I am semi-away -- but if you have more questions and no one else answer them in here, send me a message, or ask in channel with my nick, and I'll get back to you when I am back. Sorry for the inconvenience. |
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| 16:28.41 | cefege123 | e12e : yes thanks |
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| 16:30.12 | Oliver` | Re-installing a box's OS later today. What's the best way to back up everyone's $HOMEs and restore them on the new installation? |
| 16:30.13 | jhutchins_wk | cefege123: What do you want to resolve with your hosts file? |
| 16:30.51 | jhutchins_wk | cefege123: I see e12e effectively answered you. |
| 16:31.27 | cefege123 | jhoepken: I just want to acces my blog from the internet, and I have no idea what I'm doing |
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| 16:36.16 | cefege123 | jhutchins_wk: how do I set up resolv.conf to point in the correct way? |
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| 16:44.25 | e12e | cefege123: I think you're going about this the wrong way. Your webserver only cares about ip-adresses and http headers -- it doesn't really care about dns. So assuming you have nginx, apache or somesuch installed with your /srv/website set to the web root -- you should already be set. If the host/vm/server has several domains hosted on the same ip -- you need to set up virtualhosts -- mappings from the name to the ip. I think you're better off backing up a |
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| 16:51.00 | tom__ | Does anyone know of any software that will read epubs? I am aware of Calibre, but it is a big program to use just to read epub files. |
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| 16:53.45 | winsen | frikinz:thank you very much |
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| 17:00.22 | dkr | tom__: how many kilobytes is too big for you? ;) |
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| 17:02.54 | dkr | tom__: fbreader perhaps |
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| 17:07.18 | tom__ | dkr: It is not so much the disk space, more that you have to import everything in calibre's library before you can open a book. fbreader looks what I am after. funnily enough it didn't come up in my apt-cache search because I used ebook instead of e-book. |
| 17:07.52 | dkr | tom__: I used aptitude search ~depub |
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| 17:11.10 | jhutchins_wk | tom__: calibre's reader is a seperate program that can open an ebook directly. |
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| 17:13.52 | Xuan_1987 | . |
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| 17:15.10 | FilipeMaia | Is there a way to figure out if my motherboard has pcie slots without looking at it? |
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| 17:16.00 | MySystem | hello again |
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| 17:16.16 | jelly-home | FilipeMaia: no, what the chipset supports and the actual connectors on the board may differ |
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| 17:16.40 | FilipeMaia | jelly-home: i see |
| 17:16.58 | jelly-home | FilipeMaia: if you can figure out the exact board brand, model and version from dmidecode or lshw, you can look up the specs |
| 17:17.08 | FilipeMaia | but i might be able to see if there's any pcie at all right? |
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| 17:18.18 | FilipeMaia | dmidecode says it's a supermicro X7DB8 but i'm not sure if i believe |
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| 17:18.59 | __Chris__ | Hi guys :) |
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| 17:19.28 | __Chris__ | Someone have a tutorial to make my PC dual boot? But I have the Debian installed |
| 17:20.01 | __Chris__ | I just found tutorials explain how to do this with the W7 first |
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| 17:20.13 | MySystem | ok not so important i have a problem downloaded debian-6.0.5-i386-netinst.iso and wanted to install it but i only get the line cd-boot: and then one line with something about debian then no cd actions or hd and nothing else happens |
| 17:20.29 | wilee-nilee | __Chris__, Windows is your choice for the second OS? |
| 17:20.49 | __Chris__ | wilee-nilee: I want to test W8 |
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| 17:21.50 | wilee-nilee | __Chris__, I would do it in a virtual, W8 has a sleep function that is part of its fast boot, so there are some varibles, but it can be dual booted with grub2 as the bootloader. |
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| 17:22.22 | wilee-nilee | grub legacy as well I'm sure I just use grub2 myself |
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| 17:22.23 | jhutchins_wk | cefege123: Are you getting things figured out? |
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| 17:23.43 | __Chris__ | ok... I can't use VBox, because my this PC is for tests only, and this is a Atom D525 (a Nettop), so, is too slow for that |
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| 17:24.15 | Sw33NY_ | hi everybody, I would like to know if it's possible to activate the tabulation in the ftp command line ? |
| 17:24.33 | __Chris__ | And, making it dual boot, I learn how to do this :D |
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| 17:24.47 | jelly-home | Sw33NY_: tabulation? |
| 17:24.51 | wilee-nilee | __Chris__, Windows is easiest to repair from its own restore or install discs if it is on the first partition is all, minus the MS boot partition is how I have it installed, but it can be put anywhere on gthe disc as long as you know how to reload the mbr with grub or the MS bootloadetr. |
| 17:25.18 | MySystem | now i put a debian4 netinstall that i found in and it ask for boot but hang on at some step like timer not connected trying... |
| 17:25.39 | Sw33NY_ | jelly-home, yes, like the shell can do, you write one or two first letters and the shell purpose you a choice.. I'm not sure it's easy to understand :) |
| 17:26.00 | MySystem | anyone an idea how to get the installer boot |
| 17:26.03 | Sw33NY_ | complétion that's it, but I'm not sure it's same in english... |
| 17:26.28 | jelly-home | Sw33NY_: ah, tab completion. Use a better ftp client. I like lftp myself out of the CLI ones. |
| 17:26.28 | __Chris__ | I understood .. : ( |
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| 17:26.51 | Sw33NY_ | ok jelly-home, is lftp support ssl protocol ? |
| 17:26.56 | jelly-home | yes. |
| 17:27.07 | Sw33NY_ | ok I try it so, thanks jelly-home |
| 17:27.20 | __Chris__ | For now, I partitioned my HD with the GParted Live CD |
| 17:27.48 | jelly-home | it also does http, sftp, parallel get, tree recursive get (mirror), reverse mirror and other stuff |
| 17:27.50 | wilee-nilee | __Chris__, is the Linux in a extended partition? |
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| 17:28.35 | wilee-nilee | __Chris__, what are the partition numbers there now? |
| 17:28.50 | __Chris__ | wilee-nilee: no, I have 3 parttions: Swap, Ex2 and NTFS |
| 17:29.08 | __Chris__ | but the linux is not extended |
| 17:29.08 | wilee-nilee | __Chris__, the ext 2 is what? |
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| 17:29.14 | __Chris__ | My debian |
| 17:29.24 | __Chris__ | Debian Squeeze |
| 17:29.26 | wilee-nilee | __Chris__, Why a ext2 |
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| 17:29.52 | __Chris__ | Because, the Oracle 11g Express Edition don't work on Ext4 |
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| 17:30.28 | wilee-nilee | __Chris__, I think you might try the ##linux channel thgs is basically debian support |
| 17:30.33 | wilee-nilee | this* |
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| 17:33.06 | wilee-nilee | __Chris__, I have no idea what oracle uses as a bootloader and that is a key here to dualbooting, there are a number of channels that are oracle related as well. |
| 17:33.08 | __Chris__ | understood... well, tks for helpe me |
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| 17:33.26 | wilee-nilee | I would hate to give you bad info is all. |
| 17:33.50 | __Chris__ | wilee-nilee: no no no hahaha, Oracle is just a Database Software, not a OS |
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| 17:34.17 | wilee-nilee | __Chris__, Yeah I'm just not familiar there. |
| 17:34.23 | gnarface | __Chris__: do you know if it needs to be ext2? i would think that ext3 would do fine |
| 17:35.06 | __Chris__ | Let me verify, I think I got confused ... |
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| 17:35.55 | __Chris__ | SOrry!!! Is Ext3 |
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| 17:36.26 | xyz_ | Hi, I am unable to get sound working. I've tried everything... |
| 17:36.39 | gnarface | __Chris__: no worries then, nevermind |
| 17:36.44 | jordanm | !tell xyz_ about alsa checklist |
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| 17:36.47 | jhutchins_wk | !alsa checklist |
| 17:36.47 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) squeeze: purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>. |
| 17:37.00 | abrotman | !tell jhutchins_wk about bottell |
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| 17:37.51 | jelly-home | !botabuse |
| 17:37.52 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 17:37.53 | xyz_ | Probably something wrong with my sound card. |
| 17:38.10 | __Chris__ | gnarface wilee-nilee : My partitions http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3306/partc.png |
| 17:38.16 | xyz_ | Nevermind, I'll switch to another OS. |
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| 17:38.29 | gnarface | __Chris__: please use paste.debian.net |
| 17:38.46 | jelly-home | xyz_: good luck and have fun! |
| 17:39.00 | abrotman | right, if it's something wrong with your sound card, switching to another OS will totally work |
| 17:39.01 | xyz_ | jelly-home: CentOS is better. :) |
| 17:39.12 | jordanm | __Chris__: you are trying to install 11g on a desktop system? |
| 17:39.14 | __Chris__ | gnarface: but is a picture |
| 17:39.14 | jelly-home | xyz_: yes! |
| 17:39.19 | xyz_ | But Debian misses loads of my hardware. |
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| 17:39.35 | jelly-home | xyz_: stop whining and switch to something else already. |
| 17:39.38 | gnarface | __Chris__: can't you use text? |
| 17:39.44 | __Chris__ | jordanm: no, I want to make bual boot with W8 |
| 17:39.53 | xyz_ | Video card drivers, etc don't seem to be supported, so I doubt my sound card driver will be there. |
| 17:40.04 | __Chris__ | gnarface: what the command to see that in the shell? |
| 17:40.11 | xyz_ | jelly-home: Don't worry, downloading .iso now. |
| 17:40.17 | gnarface | __Chris__: df -h |
| 17:40.33 | jordanm | gnarface: that only shows mounted file systems |
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| 17:41.09 | gnarface | oh, right |
| 17:41.13 | gnarface | mount |
| 17:41.24 | wilee-nilee | __Chris__, personally I would have all those partitions in a extended, this would have left you room for primary partitions below the loagical starting in a extended as a sdX5 this would allow you to move the partitions to have windows before them, but you as is will have to make a partition for the W8 so that no boot partition is made so you don't exceed the4 primary limit. |
| 17:41.30 | jordanm | __Chris__: parted -s /dev/sda print is the equivilent |
| 17:41.42 | jordanm | gnarface: that... also only shows mounted filesystems |
| 17:41.48 | wZ | Hi, I upgraded a lenny to squeeze and all of the sudden I get : bnx2 can't load firmware file bnx2/bnx2-mips-09-5.0.0.j3.fw |
| 17:41.57 | wZ | The firmware is in /lib/firmware/bnx2 |
| 17:42.08 | wZ | Can it be that the path is something else ? |
| 17:42.09 | __Chris__ | One moment, My VNC crashed, I wll reboot :/ |
| 17:42.16 | jordanm | ,file bnx2/bnx2-mips-09-5.0.0.j3.fw |
| 17:42.19 | judd | Search for bnx2/bnx2-mips-09-5.0.0.j3.fw in squeeze/i386: firmware-bnx2: lib/firmware/bnx2/bnx2-mips-09-5.0.0.j3.fw |
| 17:42.33 | jordanm | wZ: install firmware-bnx2 from non-free |
| 17:42.43 | gnarface | jordanm: cat /proc/partitions? |
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| 17:43.06 | wZ | jordanm: I did, i did an apt-get install firmware-bnx2 |
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| 17:43.26 | jordanm | gnarface: that will show all partitions, and the size, but wouldn't provide any information about filesystems |
| 17:43.46 | jordanm | gnarface: "parted -s /dev/sda print", since he obviously has parted installed |
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| 17:44.12 | gnarface | fdisk -l /dev/sda would work i guess |
| 17:44.17 | gnarface | you'd need to be root i think |
| 17:44.38 | gnarface | assuming his disk is /dev/sda |
| 17:45.06 | jordanm | it is in the picture, but I don't see why anyone would use fdisk when parted is available |
| 17:45.22 | wZ | jordanm: ? is there a difference between firmware and the firmware in non-free ? |
| 17:46.31 | jhutchins_wk | jordanm: A lot of people much prefer text-based commands to gui interfaces. |
| 17:46.50 | jhutchins_wk | jordanm: It's possible to use parted without a mouse but not easy. |
| 17:48.01 | __Chris__ | gnarface jordanm : paste.debian.net/186368 |
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| 17:48.15 | wZ | jordanm: ? |
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| 17:49.05 | __Chris__ | wilee-nilee: sorry, I don't understand very well your point |
| 17:49.27 | gnarface | __Chris__: NOT ext2 |
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| 17:49.51 | __Chris__ | yes, I sad |
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| 17:50.06 | __Chris__ | moments a go |
| 17:50.10 | gnarface | sorry catching up |
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| 17:50.42 | wilee-nilee | __Chris__, you have 3 primary partitions to begin with you can only have 4 on yoiur set up, W8 will install 2 primaries unless you have a ntfs there already make it with gparted and install to it from the W8 install gui's |
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| 17:51.45 | jordanm | jhutchins_wk: you are confusing parted with the graphical front-end to gparted or kparted |
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| 17:52.36 | wilee-nilee | __Chris__, Extended partitions have logical partitions which linux run fine in and can have many logicals, while leaving room for 3 primaries outside which windows runs in. |
| 17:52.37 | __Chris__ | wilee-nilee: Yes, this is my Plan, the NTFS partition is done, but my fear is losin my Debin boot |
| 17:52.57 | pseubodot | I've dist-upgraded from squeeze to testing on this G5 PPC box. X starts, I see the graphical background but no fonts and no details in the gdm window. |
| 17:52.58 | __Chris__ | after the W8 install |
| 17:53.01 | wilee-nilee | __Chris__, You will you just have to reload the mbr. |
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| 17:53.53 | __Chris__ | wilee-nilee: And how can I do this? |
| 17:53.58 | pseubodot | no details as in no buttons are visible, the blue selection window is there, as is the password blank, but no indication of what these are. |
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| 17:54.09 | Jon__ | hei |
| 17:54.16 | pseubodot | I can ssh into the machine, it works. |
| 17:55.10 | wilee-nilee | __Chris__, Personally I just use supergrub to get back into the linux and reinstall to the mbr from there, but there are debian wiki's on reloading the mbr, people here may elp as well. |
| 17:55.20 | wilee-nilee | help* |
| 17:55.29 | xyz_ | hei duz anyone |
| 17:55.55 | wilee-nilee | __Chris__, you want to be sure you are running grub legacy or grub 2 as well. |
| 17:56.16 | Jon__ | I'll just give you guys my problem: I got a freshly installed squeeze with a massive dbus problem (gnome only starts when I log in to the rescue shell, stop-and-start dbus; wicd will kill the whole Xserver when I authentificate so it can connect) |
| 17:56.28 | Jon__ | both complain about dbus |
| 17:56.30 | abrotman | pseubodot: now you've done it! |
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| 17:56.38 | pseubodot | abrotman: indeed I hae |
| 17:56.44 | pseubodot | abrotman: er, indeed I have |
| 17:56.47 | abrotman | pseubodot: is gdm3 installed? |
| 17:56.51 | abrotman | and in sue |
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| 17:56.53 | abrotman | use |
| 17:56.53 | pseubodot | abrotman: it is |
| 17:56.59 | pseubodot | abrotman: I can turn it on and off |
| 17:57.01 | pseubodot | abrotman: no change |
| 17:57.06 | abrotman | pseubodot: and the 'xorg' package? |
| 17:57.15 | abrotman | moment ... |
| 17:57.28 | pseubodot | abrotman: 'xorg is already the newest version.' |
| 17:57.34 | __Chris__ | wilee-nilee: it's grub 2 |
| 17:57.39 | pseubodot | abrotman: keep in mind that I installed via tasksel |
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| 17:59.24 | pseubodot | abrotman: (gdm window responds to keyboard input in that cursor keys move 'blue' righlight, so I would expect that gdm3 is working, but something isn't right since I can't see any fonts or graphics) |
| 17:59.34 | wilee-nilee | __Chris__, You have a live cd of debian? |
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| 18:00.29 | wilee-nilee | __Chris__, If you have a live debian cd, you would just chroot in and reload the mbr. |
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| 18:01.23 | __Chris__ | And this will identify the W8 too right? |
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| 18:02.02 | somiaj | __Chris__: depends, you may need to install the os-prober package for it to automtically identify and add a w8 boot option to grub |
| 18:02.17 | Testereeesd | Hello. |
| 18:02.30 | somiaj | also you'll want to make sure to mount /dev, /proc and /sys inside the chroot and run both grub-update and grub-install |
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| 18:03.47 | __Chris__ | somiaj: is already installed |
| 18:04.11 | somiaj | then as long as it is a basic install you should be fine |
| 18:04.30 | wilee-nilee | __Chris__, that is all good info you are getting. |
| 18:04.30 | __Chris__ | :) |
| 18:04.53 | abrotman | pseubodot: tried slim or another WM or just starting X with startx ? |
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| 18:05.21 | __Chris__ | and I am very grateful for the help |
| 18:05.35 | pseubodot | abrotman: trying startx now. |
| 18:06.12 | pseubodot | abrotman: background graphic shows (debian logo background) but there is some strangeness |
| 18:06.22 | pseubodot | abrotman: only some of the icons on the top bar are visible |
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| 18:06.38 | pseubodot | abrotman: some characters seem to be missing in dialogs |
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| 18:08.42 | abrotman | pseubodot: you finished your dist-upgrade fully ? |
| 18:09.02 | pseubodot | abrotman: dist-upgrade completed properly |
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| 18:09.13 | abrotman | right, but you're sure there's nothing left? |
| 18:09.19 | abrotman | and no squeeze packages left over? |
| 18:09.25 | pseubodot | abrotman: I've dist-upgraded twice since |
| 18:09.31 | pseubodot | abrotman: nothing to ad |
| 18:09.32 | jhutchins_wk | Jon__: Why wicd? |
| 18:09.34 | pseubodot | abrotman: to add, rather |
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| 18:10.06 | simpledoc | Is there a lightweight .DOC viewer ( which doesn't have a slew of dependencies like openoffice/abiword ) ? |
| 18:10.07 | jhutchins_wk | pseubodot: Does aptitude -f install suggest anything? |
| 18:10.15 | abrotman | pseubodot: sounds like you can't draw one of the graphics formats .. did you look at ~/.xxsession-errors ? |
| 18:10.18 | abrotman | eh .. one x |
| 18:11.22 | pseubodot | jhutchins_wk: suggests to remove gnome gnome-orca libatk adaptor and python-pyatspi2 |
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| 18:11.54 | abrotman | did you install gnome3 ? or still trying to use gnome2 ? |
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| 18:13.19 | pseubodot | abrotman: reading through it now |
| 18:13.32 | pseubodot | abrotman: "(gnome-settings-daemon:2824): color-plugin-WARNING **: failed to reset xrandr-Apple Computer Inc-Display-50202482 gamma table |
| 18:13.35 | pseubodot | s: gamma size is zero" |
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| 18:14.18 | abrotman | don't think that counts ? |
| 18:14.26 | abrotman | but i blame Apple |
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| 18:14.48 | pseubodot | abrotman: "Window manager warning: Failed to load theme "Clearlooks": Failed to find a valid file for theme Clearlooks" |
| 18:15.15 | abrotman | so .. are you still using gnome2 somehow ? |
| 18:15.15 | pseubodot | abrotman: "Window manager warning: Got a request to focus the no_focus_window with a timestamp of 0. This shouldn't happen!" |
| 18:15.19 | pseubodot | could be |
| 18:15.52 | zinx | i had to uninstall gnome when it hit 3 on my sid.. moved to xfce mostly :/ |
| 18:16.23 | abrotman | pseubodot: aptitude install gnome .. want to do anything ? |
| 18:16.59 | pseubodot | abrotman: yes, install gnome and gnome-orca and remove aisleriot and unoconv |
| 18:17.13 | abrotman | sounds good to me! unless you need unoconv |
| 18:18.29 | pseubodot | abrotman: started gdm3, and still have same issue. |
| 18:18.47 | pseubodot | I think my mistake was to configure X in squeeze before dist-upgrading to testing |
| 18:19.00 | pseubodot | s/configure/install and set up/ |
| 18:19.27 | abrotman | configure how ? |
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| 18:20.09 | pseubodot | abrotman: I merely chose desktop in tasksel |
| 18:20.15 | pseubodot | abrotman: nothing special or unusual |
| 18:20.19 | abrotman | ah okay |
| 18:20.39 | pseubodot | I think I'll try the reinstall |
| 18:20.42 | abrotman | there is a #debianppc .. not sure how much help they'll be |
| 18:22.28 | pseubodot | Am trying in there |
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| 18:25.47 | simpledoc | So what ever happened to the ted package ... ? |
| 18:26.08 | simpledoc | I need a lightweight alternative DOC viewer to oo/abiword :/ |
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| 18:27.23 | simpledoc | "RoQA; unmaintained, DSFG problems, unmaintained upstream" |
| 18:27.53 | simpledoc | i wonder what the DSFG issue was .. |
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| 18:35.28 | vampirnata | I've bought a new 3TB hard disk and put it into an usb enclosure. Under windows 7 it detects it and I can format it for the full 3TB. Under linux with kernel 3.2.0-29 I see it detected under dmesg but when I run parted /dev/sde it hangs... any ideas? |
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| 18:39.06 | arcsky | anyone know how i can do so my screen's windows will be named as "user@host" ? |
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| 18:40.12 | kesroesweyth | Screen's windows? |
| 18:41.02 | dkr | the titlebar of his terminals, I guess |
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| 18:42.18 | dkr | arcsky: in my shell, I do this so it resets the title whenever I cd: alias cwdcmd 'echo -n "\033]2;${HOST} $cwd\a\033]1;${HOST}\a"' likely your shell has some similar feature |
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| 18:44.54 | hellyeah | agreed |
| 18:44.59 | nsadmin | dkr, I made a script that does something like that, forgot where I put it |
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| 18:45.56 | jmd | Can anyone explain why my nfs mount isn't getting mounted on boot? |
| 18:46.16 | jmd | Yes I do have it marked as auto in /etc/fstab |
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| 18:46.40 | dkr | nsadmin: I also just made a shell alias to set titles manually: alias title 'echo "\033]0;\!*\a"' |
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| 18:46.55 | nsadmin | put a space in your irc and then show that one line from your fstab |
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| 18:48.16 | jmd | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:48.46 | nsadmin | does it need a password of some sort |
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| 18:49.15 | jmd | Well it's a kerberos mount so it needs the initial ticket. |
| 18:49.51 | nsadmin | dkr, ahh, so you could share how you made that alias |
| 18:50.12 | jmd | But when I do "mount -a" it gets mounted. I just don't understand why it doesn't get mounted on boot. |
| 18:50.29 | nsadmin | jmd, does kerberos allow you to save a ticket between boots? |
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| 18:51.37 | nsadmin | so, something is available after booting that is not available when the mount is first tried |
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| 18:51.54 | nsadmin | you would need to find out what that is |
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| 19:08.55 | \Jan | make-kpkg seems to completely disregard whether or not I want to make clean when I'm done |
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| 19:21.07 | pseubodot | abrotman: reinstall seems to have been a good idea. |
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| 19:23.03 | Pwuuu | exit |
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| 19:26.10 | dejot_ | i have in dmesg logs like [12987.371819] Inbound IN=eth1 OUT= MAC=00:1d:7d:d4:8b:ad:00:16:b6:e7:45:f1:08:00 SRC=85.195.90.52 DST=192.168.1.2 LEN=439 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=57 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5062 DPT=5060 LEN=419 |
| 19:26.23 | dejot_ | how to disable it? |
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| 19:27.37 | dkr | dejot_: remove the iptables logging rules you made. :) |
| 19:27.47 | jelly-home | dejot_: get rid of iptables rules with LOG or similar NINJAD AGAIN |
| 19:28.08 | jelly-home | !win dkr |
| 19:28.08 | dpkg | Congratulations, dkr! You have won the US presidency! |
| 19:28.26 | dkr | throws a smoke bomb and disappears. |
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| 19:29.54 | dejot_ | hmm it's strange |
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| 19:31.33 | dejot_ | can it be because of firestarter? |
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| 19:32.08 | linlin | ...seriously ? |
| 19:32.12 | Shadow`` | haha |
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| 19:35.38 | jelly-home | dejot_: if that's a firewall helper tool, could be |
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| 19:45.50 | lidar | hi supaplex |
| 19:45.58 | supaplex | sup |
| 19:46.09 | lidar | nada lurking |
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| 20:03.25 | ws2k3 | a |
| 20:03.29 | ws2k3 | hello guys i have a realy strange issue |
| 20:03.29 | ws2k3 | i have 4 server and one of them is the mysql server all other 3 servers connect to the mysql server thats works just fine but on one server it takes very long to login and sometimes it doent login |
| 20:03.29 | ws2k3 | i run debian on it so i tryed to just use the cli mysql client to connect and when i enter my password the other servers are instandly logged in but the server with the issues takes around 5/10 seconds sometimes longer and then he is logged in |
| 20:03.29 | ws2k3 | i tryed to let the server with the issue connect to another remove mysql server and there is he logging fast |
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| 20:05.51 | ompaul | ws2k3: you should consider are there dns issues around the machine name, bad wiring, distance, stricter ssh settings lots of possible things to trouble shoot |
| 20:05.59 | acemi | ws2k3: skip-name-resolve |
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| 20:06.49 | abrotman | pseubodot: all working ? |
| 20:06.56 | ws2k3 | acemi i just tryed to connectt to ip adres instead of hostname |
| 20:07.13 | ws2k3 | but the machine has the same hostname for a long time |
| 20:07.38 | ws2k3 | but when i connect to the ip adres its still slow |
| 20:07.55 | ws2k3 | still takes 5 seconds but if i connect from another machine it takes less then 1 second |
| 20:08.41 | acemi | mysql server tries to find the client's domain name |
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| 20:09.16 | ws2k3 | ameci well all server are rented from the same company |
| 20:09.22 | ws2k3 | so proberly they use all the same dns server |
| 20:09.32 | ws2k3 | or am i wrong? |
| 20:09.47 | nmistry | i am looking for a transparent FTP -> SFTP gateway any ideas? |
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| 20:10.13 | ws2k3 | acemi is there a way i can test this |
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| 20:11.11 | acemi | you can add an entry for the client into the hosts file in server machine |
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| 20:12.47 | ws2k3 | acemi how you mean |
| 20:12.50 | ws2k3 | in the server with the issues |
| 20:12.56 | ws2k3 | or the server with the mysql server running |
| 20:12.57 | acemi | yes |
| 20:13.05 | acemi | the mysql server |
| 20:13.23 | ws2k3 | what should i add |
| 20:13.45 | ws2k3 | if this solves the issue or not i assume it allways wise to disable that dns lookup? |
| 20:13.57 | ws2k3 | it only slows the mysql connection and is compleet usesless for me |
| 20:15.15 | acemi | if the problem is DNS resolving then you can add skip-name-resolve to the my.cnf |
| 20:15.33 | ws2k3 | yeah i know but what should i add to host file |
| 20:15.45 | ws2k3 | you sad if i add an entry i can test if that Is the issue |
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| 20:16.33 | acemi | an entry for client IP, ip_address and a fake host name |
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| 20:17.07 | acemi | then mysql server don't wait to resolve DNS |
| 20:17.15 | ws2k3 | acemi |
| 20:17.19 | ws2k3 | i love you :D |
| 20:17.39 | ws2k3 | it connects realy fast now |
| 20:17.50 | ws2k3 | so i just need to add skip-name-resolve to my my.cnf? |
| 20:17.53 | ws2k3 | and then its fixed ? |
| 20:17.55 | acemi | yes |
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| 20:25.18 | _stefanos_ | question: i have sidebar > tree, and I click a folder's "plus" button to show its contents. the folder has files in it, but it says "(empty)". should not the files be visible under folder? (Nautilus 3.4.2 -- debian wheezy 32-bit) |
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| 20:30.05 | FLeiXiuS | Offhand does anyone know the user-agent apt-get uses? |
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| 20:35.57 | grim76__ | I have been asked to integrate with an 2008R2 AD domain. However I am concerned about having consistent UIDs and GIDs what can I do to make that happen? |
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| 20:36.04 | acemi | FLeiXiuS: tcpdump says User-Agent: Debian APT-HTTP/1.3 (0.8.10.3) for squeeze |
| 20:36.15 | xfire78xx | sera :) |
| 20:38.30 | jelly-home | grim76__: might want to ask on the debian-enterprise mailing list |
| 20:38.49 | grim76__ | jelly-home: Ok I will ask on the mailing list. Thanks |
| 20:39.07 | sinisterstuf | is away: AFK |
| 20:39.58 | dmerc | hi. xmodmap changes keylayouts only in Xorg, right? how would one change the layouts to work on ttys too? |
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| 20:41.57 | adolf_ | check it http://pliki.netau.net/images/p8290900a.jpg |
| 20:42.30 | nsadmin | adolf_, what's that? |
| 20:43.35 | adolf_ | it's a power suplier dc |
| 20:44.36 | nsadmin | just be careful if you run it without the cover :) |
| 20:44.55 | adolf_ | i faund it basment |
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| 20:45.35 | nsadmin | ahh :) |
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| 20:45.40 | adolf_ | it's from my child train |
| 20:46.16 | nsadmin | oh ok,,, so it must provide like 6 - 12 v |
| 20:46.43 | adolf_ | it's big red on the bottom, i think it's something like gretz bridge |
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| 20:47.46 | adolf_ | -17 - +17 |
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| 20:51.55 | adolf_ | becouse it could ran in both sides |
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| 20:52.22 | novaspirit | hi i'm having trouble in trying to figure out if this is the right approach for this, i have two wireless nic with two internet connections. i've been looking up bonding the conection but that seem to apply on a same network situation. can't some one direct me to the right direction? |
| 20:52.37 | adolf_ | german construction |
| 20:52.42 | nsadmin | so the output must be 3 wires, -17, gnd, +q7 |
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| 20:54.23 | nsadmin | err +17 |
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| 20:54.28 | adolf_ | no only 2, there is a potentiometr |
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| 20:54.42 | adolf_ | potentiometer |
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| 20:54.52 | nsadmin | oic, so you could reverse the train |
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| 20:55.54 | adolf_ | yes |
| 20:56.51 | adolf_ | it look like home made production |
| 20:57.01 | nsadmin | novaspirit, you can try #networking if you don't find out here... the old networking tools (ifconfig, route), I was told they can't do multihoming, you need something more modern like ip |
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| 20:59.09 | novaspirit | nsadmin, thanks that's one of the best response i got today |
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| 21:01.13 | nsadmin | novaspirit, cool :) I'm trying to learn ip myself after using ifconfig/route for years n yoars |
| 21:02.01 | Chris___ | What architecture do I need for a powermac g5? |
| 21:02.38 | nsadmin | ppc? |
| 21:02.47 | Chris___ | err, sorry, google answered that |
| 21:02.54 | Chris___ | rather, where do I find the power64 architecture? |
| 21:03.07 | Chris___ | don't see it on http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst |
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| 21:03.55 | lidar | Chris___, you mean amd64 or powerpc ? |
| 21:04.00 | Chris___ | or is power64 inside the ppc iso? |
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| 21:04.26 | Chris___ | lidar: I'd assume ppc? I've never put Debian on an apple machine before, so first time for me, but google leads me to believe I need to power64 ISO for the "powermac g5" |
| 21:04.53 | lidar | uh isnt the g5 a intel chip ? |
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| 21:05.13 | Chris___ | I'm going off of http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ch02s01.html.en#id522279 |
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| 21:05.48 | Jon__ | someone here who can help? |
| 21:05.48 | lidar | Chris___, go by what processor your g5 has .. isnt it intel cor2duo something ? |
| 21:06.03 | Chris___ | lidar: no idea; let me look it up |
| 21:06.46 | Chris___ | ppc then |
| 21:06.48 | Chris___ | thanks folks |
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| 21:07.05 | adolf_ | can you mount devices under thunar? |
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| 21:07.33 | nsadmin | Jon__, what did you want to know? (scattered here... just ask) |
| 21:08.00 | Jon__ | well, my dbus is kinda broken |
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| 21:08.56 | adolf_ | is it yours or debian? |
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| 21:09.13 | Jon__ | I put up a brand new squeeze, and it will only boot to gdm when I boot up in rescue mode, start dbus and then gdm |
| 21:09.16 | agike | Hi, having set up a new deb squeeze system, I find that url links in icedove 3.0.11 don't work, but urlview works in mutt. Can anyone suggest a fix ? |
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| 21:09.56 | Jon__ | also, when I try to load wicd or network-manager the system crashes down (black screen, no way of going to console or doing anything) |
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| 21:11.30 | adolf_ | yep it's broken |
| 21:12.19 | agike | adolf_: icedove 3.0.11 ? |
| 21:12.26 | Jon__ | has anyone a hint for me what I could try to fix it? |
| 21:12.59 | adolf_ | maybe use dpkg-reconfigure? |
| 21:13.06 | agike | Jon__: What distro ? |
| 21:13.14 | Jon__ | squeeze |
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| 21:14.46 | agike | Jon__: Hmm .. I had a good experience in test-using debian's latest installer with 'debian-6.0.5-amd64-i386-netinst.iso' |
| 21:15.53 | Jon__ | agike: where did you get it? I only saw the dual-something.iso on the debian website and installed it |
| 21:17.03 | Jon__ | but I don't think it's the debian-version, because before I tried wheezy and had the same problems |
| 21:17.45 | Jon__ | (I come from Archlinux and wanted to try something (old) new (had Lenny some time ago)) |
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| 21:19.24 | heoa | What ist the pdflatx -pkg in Debian? |
| 21:19.28 | heoa | tex-core? |
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| 21:20.49 | frikinz | texlive-latex-base |
| 21:21.34 | agike | Jon__: I am on a debian mailing list which suggested it. Can't find it right now, but perhaps you could search via www.ixquick.com with that *.iso as the search term. I don't know if it is yet a public release but I had no problems. It also helps to read the Debian Install Manual, and use default options with LVM (Logical Volume Management or some such) to ease partitioning. Bonne chance, mon ami .. |
| 21:21.40 | heoa | frikinz: ofc, so much other thinsg such as latex-mk. |
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| 21:22.56 | tladuke | i'm not familiar with debian ways. i am on stable, but i have some kernel module that needs/suggests 2.6.38-8 to build |
| 21:23.12 | heoa | frikinz: Thank you. |
| 21:23.16 | tladuke | best way to go about that? |
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| 21:23.47 | tladuke | i looked at backports, but i don't see it there |
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| 21:23.51 | Jon__ | agike: thanks mein freund :) , tho I guess there's no problem with the partitioning.. (I put everything on the same partition except /boot and /home) |
| 21:24.09 | frikinz | heoa: there is a handy tool called apt-file (install it). then run apt-file update. then apt-file search latex-mk for example. or simply go there: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
| 21:24.38 | frikinz | heoa: there are 2 search : search by packages name or search by content |
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| 21:25.23 | bintut | waves |
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| 21:27.25 | bintut | in wireshark v1.6 on ms windows 7 desktop, i have this part of my preference: |
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| 21:27.48 | bintut | column.format: "Time","%Cus:frame.time:0:R","Source IP Address","%us","Source Port","%uS","Destination IP Address","%ud","Destination Port","%uD","Protocol","%p","Packet Size","%L" |
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| 21:27.54 | agike | Jon__: The beauty of LVM is that if somewhere down the track some of your partitions are full and others empty it can be adjusted, unlike the traditional static file structure. LVM puts everything within one container (a 'super fs') so I just let it do the work. Partitioning was previously the worst part for me .. |
| 21:28.40 | bintut | how can i use it in tshark from the cli on debian squeeze? |
| 21:29.01 | frikinz | tladuke: there's 3.2 in bpo |
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| 21:29.36 | Jon__ | I know LVM and also like it ;), but with my first debian installation in a long time I wanted to keep the critical points to a minimum |
| 21:29.43 | bintut | anyone? |
| 21:29.59 | tladuke | frikinz: i guess my question is can i build this module for stable or 3.2 and it'll work? |
| 21:30.53 | tladuke | i guess i should try that first |
| 21:31.03 | frikinz | tladuke: no idea, depends on the module. try module-assistant for this task |
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| 21:32.34 | frikinz | bintut: tshark -o ? |
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| 21:33.56 | bintut | frikinz: what will be the complete syntax for that? |
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| 21:34.57 | Jon__ | has someone maybe encountered simular problems and was able to solve them? (dbus not working properly) |
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| 21:35.31 | agike | Jon__: I've also come back to debian, but find the urls in icedove 3.0.11 don't work. |
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| 21:36.10 | Jon__ | agike: how so? (how do they not work?) |
| 21:36.52 | agike | Jon__: I click a ling int the Inbox and nothing happens. |
| 21:37.05 | agike | Jon__: I click a link in the Inbox and nothing happens. |
| 21:37.10 | frikinz | bintut: no idea, I either use tcpdump or wireshark (although tshark seems nice). this seems to work: sudo tshark -i eth0 -o 'column.format: "Time","%Cus:frame.time:0:R","Source IP Address","%us","Source Port","%uS","Destination IP Address","%ud","Destination Port","%uD","Protocol","%p","Packet Size","%L"' |
| 21:37.20 | Jon__ | maybe it's not connected to iceweasel as browser? |
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| 21:37.48 | agike | Jon_: It's a stand-alone app. |
| 21:38.05 | tladuke | frikinz: thanks. it works! |
| 21:38.29 | Jon__ | yeah, but when you click on a link it should open your web browser |
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| 21:38.48 | bintut | frikinz: let me try that command |
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| 21:39.10 | frikinz | tladuke: curious. what was the module? |
| 21:39.14 | agike | Jon_: True, but previously it happened automagically. Perhaps I should check the config .. |
| 21:39.33 | Jon__ | agike: that'll probably do the trick ;) |
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| 21:40.36 | frikinz | bintut: actually the simple quotes arenot needed, as long as there is no space in the pref line ie column.format:"Time".... |
| 21:41.11 | tladuke | frikinz: it;s a driver for the I/O pins on a little atom board. not a debian module |
| 21:41.40 | tladuke | but m-a got me all set up to run make all |
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| 21:43.05 | bintut | frikinz: let me transfer to my desktop. i am on my tablet now. brb. |
| 21:43.53 | frikinz | tladuke: good. I've used ftdi chips for *external* io small board. works well |
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| 21:45.36 | bintut | waves |
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| 21:47.59 | bintut | frikinz: still there? |
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| 21:48.06 | frikinz | mmhhh |
| 21:48.14 | bintut | i am not getting the frame.time which is the first column |
| 21:49.04 | bintut | also, i want to separate each column with a comma so that i can redirect it to a file and will look it like a csv file |
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| 21:50.51 | frikinz | no idea sorry. ok I've to go to the bar to get pissed. bye all |
| 21:51.28 | qw12 | how do i make the output of cron scripts sent to root ? |
| 21:51.38 | qw12 | emailed to root |
| 21:51.45 | agike | Jon__: Where does one configure browsers opening urls in icedove ? |
| 21:52.13 | bintut | frikinz: ok. thanks anyway. :) |
| 21:54.30 | agike | :#1 |
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| 21:56.23 | wjtaylor | How do I view the fingerprint for a 3rd party's repo |
| 21:56.32 | qw12 | how do i make the output of cron scripts emailed to root ? |
| 21:56.33 | agike | Jon_: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/how-can-i-set-icedove-default-browser-904567/ |
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| 21:57.01 | Jon__ | ah :D |
| 21:57.15 | Jon__ | so you got it, I was looking but didn't find it |
| 21:57.31 | bintut | now, my tshark command partially works as what i want: tshark -i eth0 -o column.format:"Time","%Cus:frame.time","Source IP Address","%us","Source Port","%uS","Destination IP Address","%ud","Destination Port","%uD","Protocol","%p","Packet Size","%L" |
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| 21:58.05 | bintut | but, i want to remove the space/tab and separate each column with a comma |
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| 21:59.03 | agike | Jon_: I haven't fixed it yet, but it helps to use a metasearch engine. |
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| 22:02.16 | agike | Jon_: .. but it's good to bounce it off someone. Thks .. |
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| 22:02.39 | Jon__ | :) |
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| 22:13.58 | __file__ | Hi, whe I use 'apt-get install smbfs' the |
| 22:14.07 | __file__ | oops, premature enter :( |
| 22:15.02 | __file__ | I use 'apt-get install smbfs' inside a script, and it prompts for the workgroup name in the blue dpkg screen, is there a way to make it choose the default and omit the prompt? |
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| 22:15.40 | abrotman | __file__: you can try to use debconf-set-selections (I think that's the right binary) |
| 22:17.35 | piezo | hey guys |
| 22:17.37 | piezo | someone there |
| 22:18.05 | piezo | does anybody know if there is a gui for some kind of qos configuration? (i want to mangle nat packets aswell as local packets) |
| 22:18.31 | __file__ | abrotman: how does one use this binary? :) the man pages are not so clear. |
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| 22:22.24 | agike | Jon__: Thunderbrowse |
| 22:22.47 | Jon__ | ah |
| 22:22.59 | Jon__ | now I know that too :D |
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| 22:27.04 | abrotman | __file__: what do you mean ? |
| 22:28.21 | abrotman | __file__: it might make more sense if you look at /var/cache/debconf/config.dat, and also look at debconf-get-selectoins |
| 22:28.25 | abrotman | selections |
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| 22:29.34 | netecho | is there an easy way to upgrade my install to x86_64 without re-installing everything? |
| 22:29.41 | qw12 | how do i make the output of cron scripts emailed to root ? |
| 22:29.43 | abrotman | netecho: no |
| 22:29.47 | netecho | well without starting from a CD install I mean |
| 22:29.50 | abrotman | qw12: MAILTO=root |
| 22:29.56 | netecho | like a way to re-install from within Debian? |
| 22:30.02 | abrotman | netecho: you can use debootstrap if you think that's easeier |
| 22:30.07 | abrotman | !tell netecho about debootstreap |
| 22:30.10 | abrotman | !tell netecho about debootstrap |
| 22:30.11 | abrotman | there we go |
| 22:30.17 | lidar | netecho, do you have a 32bit install now ? |
| 22:30.41 | netecho | lidar: yea I completely forgot to switch to a x86_64 installer when I formatted |
| 22:30.54 | abrotman | netecho: do you feel you need 64bit for some reason? |
| 22:31.26 | qw12 | abrotman: i have presently MAILTO="" |
| 22:31.32 | lidar | netecho, i beleive a complete redo would be simplest |
| 22:31.40 | netecho | abrotman: I'm assuming I'd be able to reap some performance gains in areas like video encoding and potentially other cpu intensive tasks |
| 22:31.49 | qw12 | abrotman: i think i wanted to stop mail to the root, is is MAILTO="root", or MAILTO=root (in /etc/crontab) |
| 22:32.31 | netecho | lidar: in that case I need to do a multi-dvd install lol last time I had to lug my tower over to my mom's office for a RJ45 network connect |
| 22:32.33 | abrotman | netecho: perhaps a bit .. how much RAM do you have ? |
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| 22:32.40 | netecho | abrotman: 4gb |
| 22:32.55 | abrotman | netecho: you really can do this with debootstrap .. back up /home/ if you're worried |
| 22:33.06 | abrotman | netecho: and why do you have to lug your system anywhere? |
| 22:33.17 | abrotman | qw12: the latter |
| 22:33.20 | nevyn | you can run a 64bit kernelwitha 32bit userspace |
| 22:33.24 | netecho | abrotman: only have wifi in here |
| 22:33.30 | abrotman | nevyn: wouldn't really get him much |
| 22:33.31 | abrotman | netecho: and what? |
| 22:33.36 | netecho | the deb installer doesn't seem to like WPA2 |
| 22:33.41 | nevyn | bog men |
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| 22:33.59 | abrotman | netecho: the squeeze installer doesn't, but you could just grab the first CD and install it that way, then grab the firmware if you need it, and ifnish the install after oyu do the base |
| 22:33.59 | nevyn | big men even. |
| 22:34.15 | abrotman | nevyn: but userland would still be 32bit |
| 22:34.19 | nevyn | mem dammit |
| 22:34.31 | netecho | abrotman: how do you finish the install after a base 1 DVD install? |
| 22:34.50 | netecho | I'm considering going to Wheezy |
| 22:35.15 | abrotman | netecho: you install packages just like normal, you just have to start with the WPA setup |
| 22:36.04 | netecho | debootstrap sounds like a better idea since to get the wireless firmware would still require me to lug my system somewhere else |
| 22:36.45 | agike | Jon_: |
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| 22:36.57 | agike | Argh ... ! |
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| 22:37.56 | agike | Jon_: http://edivad.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/debian-integrate-firefox-and-thunderbird-iceweasel-and-icedove/ |
| 22:38.01 | abrotman | netecho: you could get it now before you do the install ... |
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| 22:40.43 | abrotman | besides, it'll be fun! |
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| 22:46.01 | netecho | ah hell maybe this weekend I'll lug my system out and do a x86_64 install of wheezy |
| 22:46.23 | abrotman | you could do the debootstrap to wheezy now |
| 22:46.55 | netecho | abrotman: having some trouble understanding how that works, do I have to re-install every app after the install? |
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| 22:48.18 | abrotman | netecho: yes .. you'll need 64bit versoins, remember? |
| 22:48.45 | netecho | seems like the debootstrap method will take a lot more work than just doing a fresh install |
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| 22:49.17 | abrotman | but you can do it now! :) |
| 22:49.50 | netecho | lol and potentially render my system useless |
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| 22:50.18 | abrotman | pfft .. adventure! |
| 22:50.30 | netecho | abrotman: if I had all night I probably would lol |
| 22:50.48 | netecho | I think I'm gonna drill some holes this weekend and run a proper network cable |
| 22:52.08 | netecho | that or steal my mom's and make her use wifi lol |
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| 22:53.50 | Mp5shooter | o dear heavens! just look at the time! |
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| 22:54.07 | Orbitrix | *sigh* |
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| 22:54.17 | Mp5shooter | what a dumb kid lol |
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| 22:54.29 | netecho | heh haven't seen ascii goatse in years |
| 22:54.41 | Mp5shooter | nobody's going to give that fuckhead money to stop spamming a fucking _irc channel_ |
| 22:54.52 | travisgriggs | been a while since i did sudo admin on a debian box. i noticed that there is now an /etc/sudoers.d directory. if i'm adding a new "normal" user to /etc/sudoers, am i to use the directory instead? or is that only for package related pseudo users? |
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| 22:55.13 | Coad | I demand goatse! |
| 22:55.18 | nevyn | sometimes predictive text just doesn't help. |
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| 23:10.24 | multiHYP | hi |
| 23:10.29 | multiHYP | how would I specify the -i or --input file or simply file in my man pages? |
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| 23:10.36 | multiHYP | also, I support if the file is specified without the -i or --input, but is it safe to assume that the file would have to be the last argument? |
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| 23:12.02 | engla | travisgriggs: isn't it enough to just add a user to the sudo group? |
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| 23:13.35 | Blue1 | engla: trying to get sudo to work? |
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| 23:15.29 | engla | nope, just trying to give travisgriggs a tip |
| 23:15.39 | travisgriggs | thx |
| 23:15.50 | Blue1 | travisgriggs: http://pkill-9.com/how-to-easily-do-sudo-in-debian/ |
| 23:15.53 | Rotaerk | love it when people don't properly identify their dependencies |
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| 23:16.18 | Blue1 | engla: yup that's the easy way - just add to group -- logout/login -- done |
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| 23:16.30 | Rotaerk | trying to build flashcache and it says "make: git: Command not found" |
| 23:16.38 | Rotaerk | yet nowhere in their documentation did they mention git as a dependency |
| 23:16.42 | Rotaerk | sigh |
| 23:16.56 | krish | he guys, I have a own repo running via reprepro ..but my servers are not able to apt-get update failing with this error - http://pastebin.com/F7dixQ8z .. What am I supposed to add on my repo? |
| 23:17.36 | karsten | netecho: You niticed the README file in there by any chance? |
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| 23:17.48 | karsten | netecho: erm. missfire. |
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| 23:18.07 | netecho | lol |
| 23:18.12 | karsten | travisgriggs: there's a README file. |
| 23:18.26 | karsten | netecho: My comment ... has ... a different meaning .... than I intended. |
| 23:19.16 | karsten | travisgriggs: You *can* use files in sudoers.d/ if you wish. They should cause Debian to treat them as conffiles (e.g.: user changes won't be overwritten without specifically rpmpting for same. |
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| 23:19.32 | karsten | s/rmpting/prompting./ |
| 23:20.17 | Rotaerk | nevyn: have you actually successfully built flashcache in squeeze? |
| 23:20.42 | Rotaerk | it's giving me nothing but obscure errors when I try to make it |
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| 23:21.36 | nevyn | no... |
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| 23:22.48 | nevyn | Rotaerk: did you look at one of the packages. |
| 23:23.06 | Rotaerk | nevyn: one of what packages |
| 23:23.13 | Rotaerk | I didn't see a flashcache package |
| 23:23.15 | krish | guys anyone have a look at my issue :) - http://pastebin.com/F7dixQ8z |
| 23:25.03 | nevyn | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=635504 so there's a git repo there of a source package. |
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| 23:27.17 | nsmgo | most everyone should know this: I only need the debian dvd1 to begin the install process (right?) |
| 23:28.09 | netecho | My update icon is showing on my desktop saying 3 Updates available but when I open it theres nothing |
| 23:28.09 | nsmgo | ... too bad there's no readme here: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.5/amd64/bt-dvd/ |
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| 23:29.44 | Rotaerk | nevyn: hmm, hadn't heard of mentors.debian.net |
| 23:30.09 | dioz | if you just wanna start the install why not use the smallest? |
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| 23:31.51 | nsmgo | dioz: my interest is with a livedvd right now. |
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| 23:32.40 | nevyn | so the package hasn't been accepted into debian or anything but it may be helpful |
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| 23:34.09 | Rotaerk | nevyn: didn't even bother looking for a package, because I figured the instructions for building on the archlinux would actually be ... useful |
| 23:34.14 | Rotaerk | guess not though |
| 23:35.12 | dondelelcaro | nsmgo: you only need the 1st installer dvd to install, yes. the install guide covers this |
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| 23:35.33 | nsmgo | dondelelcaro: thanks. the other 7dvds are just packages? |
| 23:35.35 | setuid | Are there any kernels that are built with out-of-the-box preemption in Squeeze? |
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| 23:38.33 | nevyn | setuid: looks like no... |
| 23:38.45 | nevyn | there's a -rt in wheezy/sid |
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| 23:39.14 | nevyn | oh there's one in squeeze-backports |
| 23:39.17 | setuid | nevyn, I'll have to rebuild one of my own then |
| 23:39.31 | setuid | linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-rt-amd64 - Linux 3.2 for 64-bit PCs, PREEMPT_RT |
| 23:39.32 | setuid | That? |
| 23:39.38 | nevyn | !tell setuid about bdo kernel |
| 23:39.40 | nevyn | yeah |
| 23:40.03 | dondelelcaro | nsmgo: yes. |
| 23:40.17 | dondelelcaro | nsmgo: you don't even need the whole first dvd if you've got a working network connection |
| 23:41.28 | Rotaerk | hmm mentors doesn't seem to have flashcache anymore |
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| 23:42.37 | tonsofpcs | hmm |
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| 23:43.09 | nevyn | setuid: so yes that. |
| 23:43.13 | Rotaerk | looks like i can get it from http://anonscm.debian.org/git/collab-maint/flashcache.git |
| 23:45.09 | nevyn | so I don't know which version of the package that is. |
| 23:46.14 | Rotaerk | http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/flashcache.git;a=summary is where I saw that link |
| 23:46.45 | Rotaerk | not clear on the version either |
| 23:46.58 | nevyn | ok so that looks like it's loved I'd give it a go. |
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