| 00:00.14 | Ryushin | Unix needs three mouse buttons. And Mac takes away two of them. |
| 00:00.14 | mutante | clod89: http://svn.debianart.org/themes/spacefun/wallpaper/ |
| 00:00.17 | lidar | clod89, i would cry plug a logitech in! |
| 00:00.42 | phox | Ryushin: non-broken Unix gets at least one of them back. |
| 00:00.54 | phox | Ryushin: multi-touch. and obviously you can invent lots more there... |
| 00:00.59 | lidar | mutante, you win i think! |
| 00:01.23 | clod89 | mutante: just have to copy the link by hand haha, just a sec |
| 00:01.50 | lidar | we should all type real fast and make it hard on him ! |
| 00:02.25 | clod89 | mutante: that was it thank you! :-) |
| 00:02.36 | mutante | clod89: heh, you're welcome. ls /usr/share/plymouth/themes/spacefun/ |
| 00:03.11 | lidar | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:03.40 | clod89 | lidar: i think it come with the plymouth-theme package |
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| 00:03.45 | clod89 | *comes |
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| 00:04.42 | lidar | ah ok i couldnt look i am dependant on windows to make my aircard function tonight |
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| 00:21.17 | _ramok | hi |
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| 00:21.47 | _ramok | i would like to run a cronjob every day at 18 p.m. would the command look like: * 18 * * * * php ent/app/console worker:send --silent ? |
| 00:25.30 | mutante | _ramok: i would use absolute pathes in cron jobs. more like /usr/bin/php /wherever/ent/app/console ... |
| 00:26.02 | _ramok | okay |
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| 00:26.52 | abrotman | and he left before i could ask him another question .. oh well |
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| 00:39.46 | Rotaerk | now I'm trying to figure out why my system won't boot after setting-up that flashcache |
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| 00:40.18 | Rotaerk | I think it's because the flashcache device has to be setup every time, and I've explicitly told LVM to ignore anything that's not the cache device |
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| 00:56.23 | Rotaerk | nevyn, in order to make sure flashcache_create is called every time the system boots, but before it tries to mount the LVM, do you know what I need to do? |
| 00:56.34 | Rotaerk | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Flashcache is oriented, I think, around ArchLinux |
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| 00:57.04 | Rotaerk | for instance the instructions there for addressing that problem use initcpio, which doesn't seem to exist in debian .. |
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| 01:00.28 | heoa | Does there exist some debian channel for German -speakers? |
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| 01:04.34 | LtL | !de |
| 01:04.34 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 01:04.35 | Rotaerk | hmm actually, that's probably a general enough question, not flashcache specific; anyone know how to execute something before LVM mounts? |
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| 01:17.38 | Rotaerk | ahh, think I see; need to create an item in in /etc/rc0 that will start the flashcache device, such that the 2-digit number is less than that of K10lvm2 |
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| 01:19.44 | Rotaerk | aoeu |
| 01:19.52 | Rotaerk | err |
| 01:19.55 | Rotaerk | ignore that |
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| 01:40.29 | thanosdave | I installed lenny base, it was the only netinst that would boot, and it worked like a champ... should I upgrade now? |
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| 01:42.40 | NoCode | Will the Debian testing iso work on a usb stick |
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| 02:05.13 | somiaj | NoCode: it should, though the installers may not work as well as teh stable installer then dist-upgrading to testing |
| 02:05.40 | NoCode | Can I just install the Daily build since it uses the old installer to installÉ |
| 02:05.49 | NoCode | arrgh, frenchie keyboard. |
| 02:05.57 | NoCode | *shakes fist* |
| 02:06.09 | somiaj | yes you can, just saying some days the daily build just is broken |
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| 02:06.27 | NoCode | Okay cool. Ill take my chances |
| 02:06.40 | NoCode | This Ubuntu shit has got to go. |
| 02:07.00 | somiaj | I'd still suggest using squeeze and waiting for wheezy to stableize |
| 02:07.22 | NoCode | What a delimiting factor to Linux. Sure its a platform nowadays but theyève taken away all the fun. |
| 02:07.44 | NoCode | How far is Wheezy in developmentÉ |
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| 02:08.06 | NoCode | Last time I had Debian installed, Squeeze was in testing, and I absolutely loved it. |
| 02:08.06 | somiaj | it is frozen, so it has how ever long it takes to fix all the release critical bugs. |
| 02:08.26 | NoCode | Ah okay, cool. |
| 02:08.32 | somiaj | but the standard response to 'how do I install testing' is install stable instead until you know debian better. (: |
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| 02:09.19 | NoCode | Well, its not really about knowing debian better. I just didnèt want to be stuck with an iso that doesnèt work on my usb key |
| 02:09.20 | lidar | somiaj, testing works fine "most" of the time .. unstable gets really hairy lol |
| 02:09.31 | NoCode | I remember years ago I had that problem |
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| 02:10.13 | somiaj | lidar: I actually find sid less of a pain than testing (mostly because it gets faster fixes and you don't have to wait for things to filter though sid first) |
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| 02:10.19 | thanosdave | ok, I have a lenny, made sure it's uptodate, switched sources to squeeze (need security source), would aptitude be recommended for dist-upgrade? |
| 02:10.44 | somiaj | !tell thanosdave about lenny->squeeze |
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| 02:10.46 | thanosdave | oh, and I'm running squeeze kernel, dpkg, apt, aptitude |
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| 02:11.06 | somiaj | thanosdave: read that and be careful of the order since the adding of udev and the new kernel/apt/aptitude needs to be installed first |
| 02:11.17 | Rotaerk | does it seem reasonable for me to create and register my own init.d script to cause flashcache_create to be executed on startup |
| 02:11.30 | Rotaerk | or is there a "better" approach |
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| 02:11.46 | somiaj | Rotaerk: creating your own init.d script with correct usb headers is teh correct approach |
| 02:11.58 | somiaj | just adding a few lines to /etc/rc.local is the quick approach |
| 02:12.26 | thanosdave | alright, would I be able to determine if the udev stuff is correctly installed or whether I need to do something |
| 02:12.29 | somiaj | not usb headers, lsb headers |
| 02:12.29 | thanosdave | ? |
| 02:12.54 | somiaj | thanosdave: if you have followedt hat factoid installed udev and the 2.6.32 kernel (uname -a) and are running off of it you should be fine |
| 02:13.19 | somiaj | thanosdave: ps fax | grep udev (you can also see if it is running or not) |
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| 02:13.36 | Rotaerk | somiaj, hmm, can rc.local control order of execution? |
| 02:13.39 | thanosdave | are you saying udev should be upgraded after kernel is installed and booted into? |
| 02:13.53 | Rotaerk | I know I can use init.d to cause flashcache_create to be executed *before* LVM2 starts |
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| 02:14.22 | somiaj | Rotaerk: rc.local is ran very last. So if you need it to run eariler, then yes you need to create an init.d script with correct LSB headers to make lvm2 depend on it |
| 02:14.27 | Rotaerk | k |
| 02:14.37 | thanosdave | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:14.40 | Rotaerk | thanks; just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing something extremely hacky |
| 02:14.56 | somiaj | thanosdave: and uname -a gives you 2.6.32 -- looks like you are up and running on the 2.6.32 kernel |
| 02:14.58 | Rotaerk | time to see if I can find a preexisting flashcache init script |
| 02:16.01 | somiaj | Rotaerk: just read though /etc/init.d/README and /etc/init.d/skeleton to ensure your script can accept basic 'start/stop/reload' commands |
| 02:17.23 | Rotaerk | yep |
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| 02:20.50 | thanosdave | somiaj, yep... I'm actually hoping to get this guy's sound card going, but so far no go... the aplay from alsa checklist factoid says "yup I'm playing" but so far no sound. gonna complete the base upgrade and go from there. Meanwhile, anything you can tell me about this pciid: |
| 02:21.33 | thanosdave | 8086:24c5 |
| 02:21.40 | somiaj | thanosdave: /msg dpkg alsa-cheacklist |
| 02:21.45 | somiaj | alsa-checklist |
| 02:22.27 | somiaj | ,pciid 8086:24c5 |
| 02:22.28 | judd | [8086:24c5] is '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-intel8x0' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:24c5 http://wiki.debian.org/slmodem and the out-of-tree 'snd-intel8x0' module. |
| 02:22.52 | thanosdave | checking for tht mod |
| 02:23.15 | thanosdave | it's inserted |
| 02:24.01 | somiaj | !tell thanosdave about alsa-checklist |
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| 02:25.16 | thanosdave | I did try alsamixer, in lenny everything was muted, so I unmuted and potted some up, tried the aplay again, no joy... installed firmware-linux-nonfree, not sure if that's relevent or not yet |
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| 02:25.18 | MarconM | which version kde its on wheezy |
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| 02:25.41 | somiaj | ,versions kde-base |
| 02:25.42 | judd | No package named 'kde-base' was found in i386. |
| 02:25.45 | somiaj | ,versions kde |
| 02:25.46 | judd | Package: kde on i386 -- lenny: 5:48; squeeze: 5:66 |
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| 02:27.09 | abrotman | kdebase ? |
| 02:27.17 | abrotman | judd: versions kdelibs |
| 02:27.18 | judd | Package: kdelibs on i386 -- lenny: 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-0lenny4; lenny-security: 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-0lenny4; squeeze: 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-5 |
| 02:27.22 | abrotman | ugh |
| 02:27.28 | abrotman | MarconM: use packages.debian.org/kde |
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| 02:27.41 | somiaj | yea, seems there isn't a nice package, something liek |
| 02:27.45 | abrotman | there is .. |
| 02:27.57 | somiaj | well I didn't see any nice way to see the version with kde-full or kde-standard |
| 02:28.03 | somiaj | ,versions kmail |
| 02:28.04 | judd | Package: kmail on i386 -- lenny: 4:3.5.9-5; squeeze: 4:4.4.7-3; sid: 4:4.4.11.1+l10n-3; wheezy: 4:4.4.11.1+l10n-3 |
| 02:28.22 | somiaj | but some look to be 4.4 and others 4.8 on sid. |
| 02:28.45 | abrotman | i just can't recall what it is |
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| 02:29.27 | thanosdave | yeah, no joy anywhere atm... I'll suggest he get a pci sound card |
| 02:29.28 | sviz | im considering rebuilding my squeeze box to wheezy… who thinks im crazy? |
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| 02:29.32 | somiaj | I guess there is a kde-baseapps or kde-workspace |
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| 02:30.23 | somiaj | sviz: many people do run testing or unstable. Issue is you have to be able to fix and/or wait for a fix for anything that is broken. So its a roll of the dice and you may have to spend way to much time fixing things. |
| 02:31.06 | sviz | yea… i did a dry run a rebuilt the majority of the box in a vm… but true |
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| 02:31.32 | somiaj | but if you are willing and capable of finding fixes (the bts is usally very helpful) go for it. |
| 02:31.39 | sviz | theres some packages I could use newer versions of |
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| 02:31.47 | sviz | and id rather not break dependencies |
| 02:31.57 | somiaj | sviz: have you looked into squeeze-backports and/or creating your own? |
| 02:32.15 | sviz | yea backports is my life |
| 02:32.17 | sviz | well |
| 02:32.19 | sviz | not really |
| 02:32.22 | sviz | but i use the shit out of it |
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| 02:33.00 | somiaj | well /msg dpkg ssbp |
| 02:33.22 | somiaj | compling your own backports works fairly easily for many packages, you can ask judd (/msg judd check-backports packagename) to see how easy it will be |
| 02:33.44 | somiaj | that works in the case you want newer versions ofa few packages and there are squeeze-backports already made |
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| 02:34.31 | somiaj | are not backports already made... |
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| 02:35.36 | sviz | hmm |
| 02:35.42 | sviz | this may work for the time being |
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| 02:36.09 | sviz | since I really dont feel like committing the next three days to vi blah.conf |
| 02:36.16 | somiaj | though if you want to test wheezy go for it, I just know there have been issues where the upgrades has broken some systems |
| 02:39.08 | sviz | ive got my base env running in parallels right now, and its pretty sexy |
| 02:39.39 | sviz | its quite a bit better in the memory management side it seems too |
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| 03:08.27 | wad | Hi folks. My home debian server has been having trouble updating for a while, so I finally figured I'd look at it. It's running lenny. It's current task is my internet gateway (router), running squid, and running CUPS. |
| 03:08.44 | wad | Whenever I "apt-get update" it whines that a bunch of stuff is wrong. |
| 03:08.56 | wad | /etc/apt/sources.list has these lines: |
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| 03:09.28 | wad | deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib |
| 03:09.35 | wad | deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ lenny main non-free |
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| 03:09.55 | wad | But I get a bunch of errors, like this: W: Failed to fetch http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/lenny/non-free/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found |
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| 03:10.03 | wad | Ign http://mirrors.kernel.org lenny/main Packages |
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| 03:10.11 | wad | I'm not sure what "Ign" means. Is it "ignored"? |
| 03:10.20 | wad | At any rate, it's been a long time since an update came through. |
| 03:10.23 | wad | Ideas? Hints? |
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| 03:18.40 | thanosdave | Ign = ignore |
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| 03:19.36 | wad | Ah. |
| 03:19.43 | wad | Why is it ignoring my request to update? |
| 03:19.55 | thanosdave | what's the squeeze security line? |
| 03:20.08 | thanosdave | wad, it's not, it's ignoring a file |
| 03:20.14 | wad | Ah. |
| 03:20.33 | thanosdave | you want to upgrade to squeeze? or? |
| 03:20.49 | wad | Should I? |
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| 03:21.02 | wad | I'd rather not upgrade it. |
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| 03:21.09 | shawn186 | howdy |
| 03:21.19 | thanosdave | I dunno :) if it's your gateway and you are in the middle of working, I'd say hold off |
| 03:21.19 | shawn186 | is it possible to install debian onto a flash drive? |
| 03:21.20 | wad | I'm going to retire it at some point, wipe it and put on a different OS. |
| 03:21.31 | shawn186 | I have done it before with ubuntu..but can't remember how |
| 03:21.47 | wad | I'd rather just find the magic potion to drink to make it so it will update to the best lenny. :) |
| 03:22.05 | thanosdave | just apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 03:22.23 | thanosdave | don't change your sources |
| 03:22.28 | wad | Ah! |
| 03:23.00 | thanosdave | unfortunately that potion is grape burrito... |
| 03:23.03 | somiaj | note lenny is not secure (hasn't had security updates in sometime) but you can use the last versions of the packages released on archive.debian.org |
| 03:23.54 | wad | ok |
| 03:24.03 | wad | trying the grape burrito flavor for a moment first... |
| 03:24.51 | wad | Ugh. All I get is a bunch of 404 not found errors. |
| 03:25.08 | wad | Err http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/main bind9-host 1:9.6.ESV.R4+dfsg-0+lenny4 |
| 03:25.15 | wad | ^^^ an example. |
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| 03:26.15 | wad | I tried --fix-missing and I get: Unable to correct missing packages. |
| 03:26.29 | wad | Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/b/bind9/bind9_9.6.ESV.R4+dfsg-0+lenny4_i386.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 128.31.0.36 80] |
| 03:26.36 | thanosdave | deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main contrib non-free |
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| 03:26.43 | wad | Somehow the URLs in my sources.list are wrong..... |
| 03:27.00 | thanosdave | there's also no security downloads |
| 03:27.09 | somiaj | wad: lenny dose not have security updates, so you will not find any lenny packages on security.debian.org and have to remove those from your sources.list |
| 03:27.14 | wad | Stick that into my sources.list file? I could substitute "lenny" for "squeeze".... |
| 03:27.27 | wad | ah |
| 03:27.28 | thanosdave | oh, oops, that's wrong |
| 03:27.31 | thanosdave | sorry |
| 03:27.32 | thanosdave | it |
| 03:27.59 | thanosdave | deb http://archive.debian.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free |
| 03:29.18 | wad | Ah, I think it's doing something! :) |
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| 03:29.59 | wad | Yay, it's upgrading! |
| 03:30.40 | wad | Getting a new kernel.... hafta reboot it, after 265 days of uptime. |
| 03:31.00 | wad | Hopefully it will come back up. Otherwise, I have no internet at home. |
| 03:33.42 | wad | drops off to reboot the gateway |
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| 03:40.20 | thanosdave | if I install xorg, and test by running X, should I see something if I move the mouse? if not, what's the start of my debug path? |
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| 03:45.16 | rudi_s | thanosdave: You should use startx or xinit to start X. And yes, you should see a mouse cursor. Check the ouput from X on the console. |
| 03:45.37 | thanosdave | oh ok, I can make a log fiel |
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| 04:28.15 | dfrey | Are there instructions on how to build a package that I found on mentors.debian.net? This is the one I'm wanting to build: http://mentors.debian.net/package/fceu |
| 04:30.22 | nevyn | dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us ? |
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| 04:31.41 | sney | dfrey: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ or http://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation |
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| 05:23.11 | Rotaerk | nevyn: fyi, got flashcache device starting on boot now |
| 05:23.32 | nevyn | Rotaerk: yay |
| 05:23.45 | nevyn | Rotaerk: so after that whole exercise how's it working out? |
| 05:24.09 | Rotaerk | well it's working, haven't actually done anything though |
| 05:24.32 | Rotaerk | checked /proc/flashcache/sdc1+md1/flashcache_stats |
| 05:24.37 | Rotaerk | which suggests there's activity |
| 05:24.49 | Rotaerk | might do some tuning configuration later |
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| 05:26.06 | Rotaerk | at least I learned about init script creation in the process |
| 05:27.32 | Rotaerk | anyway, night |
| 05:28.55 | nevyn | night. |
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| 06:21.41 | triplc | hi all |
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| 06:21.55 | ignasr | hello, can anyone help? mysql-server-5.1 : Depends: mysql-server-core-5.1 (= 5.1.61-0+squeeze1) but 5.1.63-0+squeeze1 is installed |
| 06:22.20 | ignasr | after dist upgrade i cannot update mysql. |
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| 06:26.03 | ChrisH | ignasr: After a dist-upgrade no more upgrade should be possible or needed. |
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| 06:26.56 | ChrisH | ,v mysql-server-core-5.1 |
| 06:26.57 | judd | Package: mysql-server-core-5.1 on i386 -- lenny-backports: 5.1.49-3~bpo50+1; squeeze: 5.1.49-3; squeeze-security: 5.1.63-0+squeeze1 |
| 06:27.35 | ChrisH | ,v mysql-server-5.1 |
| 06:27.36 | judd | Package: mysql-server-5.1 on i386 -- lenny-backports: 5.1.49-3~bpo50+1; squeeze: 5.1.49-3; squeeze-security: 5.1.63-0+squeeze1 |
| 06:28.33 | ChrisH | ignasr: looks like you have only some mysql packages from squeeze-security not all.. does apt-get update change anything? |
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| 06:31.43 | ignasr | ChrisH: distupgrade was a few month ago. Now apt-get upgrade fails: http://pastie.org/4625231 |
| 06:32.45 | ignasr | im not very good with apt-get, so i'm stumped |
| 06:33.29 | ChrisH | ignasr: To me the root cause are lines 18-24 stopping mysql simply failed |
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| 06:34.39 | \Jan | 12 not fully installed or removed. |
| 06:34.40 | \Jan | Need to get 0 B/32.4 MB of archives. |
| 06:34.49 | \Jan | odd? |
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| 06:40.13 | ignasr | ChrisH: thanks, after manually stopping mysql upgrade worked :) |
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| 06:45.51 | lolgolflol | hi all. |
| 06:45.54 | remyvv | hi |
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| 06:47.09 | lolgolflol | how to install package offline mysql-server? |
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| 06:50.42 | ksuhku | lolgolflol, you got a .deb? |
| 06:52.30 | lolgolflol | if .deb can do? |
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| 06:53.11 | lolgolflol | Anything whatever that can install mysql-server on debian as offline |
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| 06:55.35 | lolgolflol | help me. my boss play me. Y-Y |
| 06:56.10 | yht_ | lolgolflol : use `apt-get download` to get the package |
| 06:56.21 | lolgolflol | at server is offline |
| 06:56.26 | lolgolflol | can't use net |
| 06:56.59 | yht_ | lolgolflol : after download you can use your usbdisk to transfer to the server |
| 06:58.02 | yht_ | lolgolflol : do you have a usbdisk? |
| 06:58.09 | lolgolflol | yeah |
| 06:58.40 | yht_ | so, what is it for? |
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| 06:59.06 | lolgolflol | how to can I download package mysql-server? |
| 06:59.25 | yht_ | ok, i repeat my answer |
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| 06:59.32 | yht_ | lolgolflol : use `apt-get download` to get the package |
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| 07:00.29 | lolgolflol | ahhh sorry. I read wrong. |
| 07:00.32 | lolgolflol | thank you |
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| 07:02.19 | lolgolflol | but my computer use osx. how to I use this command? |
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| 07:04.16 | yht_ | ew... |
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| 07:04.52 | remyvv | http://www.mysql.com/downloads/mysql/#downloads |
| 07:04.58 | remyvv | select debian linux |
| 07:05.41 | lolgolflol | thank you very much , remyvv and yht_ |
| 07:05.45 | lolgolflol | I try it. |
| 07:06.21 | yht_ | http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/mysql-server << you can download from here |
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| 07:07.16 | remyvv | i honestly dont believe thats a better choice yht_.. |
| 07:07.17 | yht_ | just remember the dep |
| 07:07.25 | yht_ | :) |
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| 07:08.52 | lolgolflol | ahh.. |
| 07:08.55 | aswen | hi there, we've got a weird problem with max open files on deb 5.0.10: despite setting in /etc/security/limits.conf and ulimit -Hn / 65535 sets the limit only for a while (half an our or so) |
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| 07:09.51 | lolgolflol | my english skill is bad. what does "dep" mean? |
| 07:10.00 | ChrisH | aswen: how did you find out about the "...(half an our or so)"? |
| 07:10.06 | aswen | lolgolflol, debian? ;-) |
| 07:10.19 | aswen | ChrisH, my colleague says so ;-) |
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| 07:10.31 | ksuhku | lolgolflol, I bet he meant dependencies |
| 07:10.40 | remyvv | ^ that |
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| 07:10.59 | aswen | i typed deB, not P |
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| 07:11.29 | ChrisH | aswen: then ask him how he found out... |
| 07:11.51 | lolgolflol | ahhh. :P |
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| 07:12.03 | aswen | he did ulimit -Hn again (after apache crashed again because of too many files open) |
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| 07:13.33 | yht_ | lolgolflol : yeah, dep = dependencies, as ksuhku said |
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| 07:14.16 | aswen | currently for desp is more valid |
| 07:14.21 | aswen | desp=desperate |
| 07:14.24 | aswen | ;-) |
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| 07:17.25 | ksuhku | aswen, maybe it will go away when you update to squeeze |
| 07:17.27 | ksuhku | !lenny |
| 07:17.28 | dpkg | Lenny is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0, released on February 15th, 2009. Lenny security support ended on 2012-02-06, this release is no longer supported. Lenny users should upgrade to Squeeze, ask me about <lenny->squeeze>. Removed from the mirrors (2012-03-25), ask me about <lenny sources.list>. For old Lenny ISOs, ask me about <lenny iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120209 |
| 07:18.45 | aswen | yeah yeah we know, this is an old server but still used. we've got plenty new ones but the app migration is rather slow. so we have to stick with this lenny box for a while and try to keep it alive... |
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| 07:19.14 | aswen | and I reckon this problem has less to with lenny/squeeze to be honest, but something we do wrong |
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| 07:20.59 | lidar | aswen: "old" hardware is fine .. "old" software is just asking to be victimized ;) |
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| 07:21.46 | aswen | so, how should i set the ulimit permanent to 65535 then? |
| 07:22.34 | ChrisH | aswen: in a different shell? |
| 07:23.13 | aswen | ChrisH, ? |
| 07:23.42 | ChrisH | 09:12 < aswen> he did ulimit -Hn again (after apache crashed again because of too many files open) he did the ulimit -Hn in a differnt shell... |
| 07:24.04 | aswen | ahh yeah might be |
| 07:24.29 | aswen | however, we want to set the limit to 65535 for any user, anytime, any shell. |
| 07:24.34 | aswen | how do we do that |
| 07:24.40 | aswen | must be possible right? |
| 07:25.13 | aswen | specificly it needs to be set for the passenger processes that are forked by apache |
| 07:25.18 | lidar | aswen: anything is possible! |
| 07:25.48 | ChrisH | aswen: well, then it's expected to see differnet values... I would put the ulimit into the apache startup script... And yes its is possible to change that for all processes, but does it make sense? I am unsure about the costs of such a setting in Linux. |
| 07:25.55 | aswen | lidar, yeah! |
| 07:26.02 | aswen | the question is however: how? |
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| 07:27.00 | aswen | ChrisH, there arent many other processes that open so much files. and mem is no problem at this server, can't think of any other cost than mem |
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| 07:27.01 | lidar | why is apache struggling aswen? i bet there is a better to way so ulimit doesnt need to be adjusted |
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| 07:27.44 | aswen | lidar, good question, be right back. have to bring one of my children to bed ;-( |
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| 07:28.53 | ChrisH | aswen: My kids went to school 1.5 and 2.5 hours ago :) |
| 07:29.18 | ChrisH | Openfiles fs.file-max in sysctl.conf might be an approach, unsure if a reboot is needed |
| 07:31.25 | aswen | ChrisH, one of my kids too, same time zone. |
| 07:31.51 | aswen | however, one is ill and i try to help out my colleague |
| 07:32.07 | lidar | aswen: what are you doing with apache could be more effective to split static and dynamic contnt for example |
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| 07:32.24 | aswen | that fs.file-max is ok, cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max says 6520168 |
| 07:32.31 | ChrisH | aswen: as lidar mentioned, finding out why apache is eating up these FDs might make more sense as it can improve overall performance |
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| 07:33.00 | aswen | that system runs a ruby/rails app on behind apache/passender |
| 07:33.04 | aswen | passenger that is |
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| 07:33.31 | aswen | and the amount of files grows along with customers... |
| 07:33.49 | aswen | we now run into this limit on this box |
| 07:33.54 | cardamon | is annoyed when he can't find default/example configs in a package. |
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| 07:34.48 | ChrisH | aswen: If you know why so many FDs are used, then put the ulimit into the start script and restart the application. For sanity check the ulimit output in the script later |
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| 07:35.12 | aswen | in our new situation (on squeeze) we better devide the users over servers. |
| 07:35.38 | aswen | ChrisH, ok, will do |
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| 07:36.32 | aswen | give results later, my colleague wil do as said and report. than I'll have fun with diapers ;-) |
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| 07:38.48 | ChrisH | aswen: Happy changing and keep the fingers crossed your kid get well soon. |
| 07:39.08 | vince23 | hi just a quickie: Anyone knows a vnc server that will create x11 sessions (in RAM) ? |
| 07:39.13 | vince23 | Xvnc any good? |
| 07:39.24 | vince23 | Because the screenshots on their homepage look like 1998 |
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| 07:40.21 | aswen | vince23, xrdp? |
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| 07:40.37 | joltcan | vince23: no idea which one is best, I run xtightvncviewer |
| 07:40.40 | joltcan | ph, server |
| 07:40.55 | ChrisH | vince23: I simply run vncserver with a minialistic .vnc/xstartup |
| 07:40.58 | Mohsen_Hassani | Can you introduce me a good downloader manager to download in multi-connection mode please? |
| 07:41.25 | vince23 | aswen: interesting I didn't know such a thing existed |
| 07:41.30 | vince23 | MIght be even better than X |
| 07:41.33 | vince23 | I mean vnc |
| 07:41.50 | vince23 | joltcan: Thanks but I am looking for server, not a viewer |
| 07:42.07 | lidar | Mohsen_Hassani: doesnt firefox do that ? |
| 07:42.11 | vince23 | ChrisH: Which kind of server do you use? |
| 07:42.42 | vince23 | OH i see, you mean this thing http://www.realvnc.com/products/open/3.3.7/man/vncserver.html |
| 07:42.44 | ChrisH | vince23: dunno... I asuume plain X from how it looks |
| 07:43.07 | vince23 | I guess that'll be xvnc too then |
| 07:43.08 | ChrisH | vince23: exactly |
| 07:43.15 | vince23 | Ok, thanks guys I'll give it a try then |
| 07:43.15 | aswen | vince23, i use xrdp for a while now for one server i have to do some graphic apps every now and then and x forwarding over ssh is poor perf |
| 07:43.35 | aswen | but xrdp spawns new x sessions for each connection |
| 07:43.39 | Mohsen_Hassani | lidar, I forgot to use download them all, yeah, firefox addon. I wanted to know about uget and kget; are they good? |
| 07:43.42 | vince23 | aswen: Yes, that's what I found out just now :-D x11 forwarding is darn slow |
| 07:43.55 | vince23 | Thats why I want rdp/vnc |
| 07:44.10 | vince23 | Guess, I'll try rdp first, since I'll be connecting from Windows clients anyway |
| 07:44.32 | joltcan | vince23: yeah, I had bad dpkg search skills, I meant I'm running tightvncserver |
| 07:44.33 | ChrisH | aswen,vince23 RDP is faster then VNC but VNC is fast enough most times and avaliable on most UNIX not only Linux |
| 07:45.15 | joltcan | But since there are so many different servers I would think that you might need to testrun them to see how they perform with the number of apps and stuff that you are gonna run |
| 07:45.39 | ksuhku | Mohsen_Hassani: BitTorrent :) |
| 07:45.48 | aswen | ChrisH, that could be right (that xrdp is not available on all unix's |
| 07:45.50 | vince23 | I read that xrdp uses xvnc or x11rdp, http://www.xrdp.org/ |
| 07:45.52 | vince23 | what now? |
| 07:46.50 | aswen | well, you can just do aptitude install xrdp and start the daemon and try it. and yeah it puts vnc between X and rdp. |
| 07:47.02 | Mohsen_Hassani | ksuhku, Isn't it only for torrent files? |
| 07:47.13 | ksuhku | Mohsen_Hassani, correct |
| 07:47.46 | Mohsen_Hassani | ksuhku, I'm using Transmission; never tested bittorrent, if you used both, which one is better? |
| 07:48.17 | ksuhku | Mohsen_Hassani, I meant the protocol, I too use Transmission |
| 07:49.17 | vince23 | vnc between X and rdp? How does that work? |
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| 07:49.41 | aswen | dunno, no programmer ;-) |
| 07:49.53 | nevyn | xforwarding should be way faster than vnc |
| 07:49.59 | nevyn | and nx even more so |
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| 07:50.07 | vince23 | nevyn: I doN't think so |
| 07:50.16 | aswen | however that's what i understand from the xrdp docu |
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| 07:50.20 | vince23 | Have you tried it over an internet connection? |
| 07:50.25 | aswen | but that was quite a while ago |
| 07:50.26 | nevyn | nx sure. |
| 07:50.38 | aswen | nx might do what you want vince |
| 07:50.48 | aswen | freenx that is right? |
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| 07:53.31 | vince23 | Well if xrdp only serves as a "bridge" between rdp and x11vnc, I might as well use vnc standalone |
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| 07:53.54 | vince23 | *xvnc |
| 07:55.44 | ChrisH | vince23: depends on the speed and latency of your connection. From $home to $office via OPenVPN to Headquater and then over VPN to branch I am very happy with vnc and rdp. I ise RDP against some Virtualbox systems |
| 07:57.19 | vince23 | Ok, thanks everybody for their input, I'll have to try something now :) |
| 07:57.22 | vince23 | bye |
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| 07:57.44 | aswen | eh good luck? |
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| 08:03.51 | Twinkletoes | I have a debian OS sitting behind a Netgear router, which I access through port-forwarding on the router. Yesterday I couldn't log into the server (externally) due to timeout. However, I *could* log into the server from the local network. Restarted router = no joy. Restarted debian server = fixed. Any ideas where to start troubleshooting this? One more bit of info, it does have OpenVPN... |
| 08:03.53 | Twinkletoes | ...Access Server installed, which uses iptables. |
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| 08:05.15 | ChrisH | Twinkletoes: If there is nothing in /var/log/* visible the chances will be low to find the root cause now |
| 08:05.19 | rozie | Twinkletoes: I'd start with layer 1 debug ;-) |
| 08:05.44 | rozie | it may be some kind of network issue, negotiation on infterface, etc. |
| 08:06.08 | rozie | take a look on logs, if this happen again don't restart, but debug |
| 08:06.24 | Twinkletoes | rozie: Good point |
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| 08:09.00 | aswen | Twinkletoes, you don't run fail2ban? |
| 08:09.08 | Twinkletoes | aswen: No |
| 08:09.13 | Twinkletoes | (not yet anyway) |
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| 08:10.29 | Twinkletoes | There's nothing in /var/log/* which might indicate what happend... I'm leaning towards openvpn-as, but as you said - difficult to troubleshoot it after the event |
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| 08:11.08 | ChrisH | Twinkletoes: tcpdump next time to find out if the SYN arrives or not |
| 08:11.12 | Twinkletoes | So strange, I could log in over ssh from internal, but not from external coming through the router. All the other port forwarding on the router works ok, so I don't think it's that |
| 08:11.31 | Twinkletoes | ChrisH: O, will remember tha t- thank you |
| 08:11.52 | Twinkletoes | ChrisH: And an iptables-save perhaps? Although it will be huge, with openvpn-as running |
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| 08:13.09 | jeredepp | hello everyone, i got a file with a few sql statements in it. Now i'm filtering the file for statements for only one table with "awk '/searchterm/,/;/'" but how can i remove statements with awk? something like "awk '/searchterm/,/;/ ' > /dev/null" ?? |
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| 08:21.01 | jeredepp | in particular i want to remove for example a truncate oder update statement of the file "mysqlbinlog --start-datetime="2012-08-30 15:00:00" --stop-datetime="2012-08-30 16:00:00" --database content mysql-bin.* | awk '/logging/,/;/' | replace log log_stat > /home/user/binoutput.txt" |
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| 08:21.11 | ChrisH | jeredepp: From what you told us, my approach would be egrep -v -e "REGEXP" < IN >OUT |
| 08:22.07 | ChrisH | jeredepp: replace -> sed |
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| 08:25.00 | frikinz | jeredepp: awk '/logging/,/;/{next}{print}' ? |
| 08:25.00 | jeredepp | ChrisH: thanks gotta read the sed manual first |
| 08:25.28 | frikinz | jeredepp: this removes lines from logging to and including ; |
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| 08:26.20 | oggei | aloha |
| 08:26.45 | jeredepp | frikinz: gonna try it out right now, thanks |
| 08:29.01 | jeredepp | frikinz: thanks it worked like a charm |
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| 08:30.13 | frikinz | jeredepp: nice. there are some nice examples overthere : http://www.catonmat.net/download/perl1line.txt |
| 08:30.53 | frikinz | jeredepp: er I meant here http://www.catonmat.net/blog/update-on-famous-awk-one-liners-explained/ |
| 08:31.21 | ksuhku | This is nice for sed http://sed.sourceforge.net/sed1line.txt |
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| 08:34.35 | jeredepp | awesome, you guys just saved my life |
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| 08:35.08 | wZ | Hi. Is there any way of talking to apt with perl ? |
| 08:35.19 | jeredepp | ...that moment when you accidentaly drop a table on the wrong host |
| 08:35.28 | wZ | I want to write my own unattended-upgrade script if that is possible |
| 08:35.38 | wZ | But I don't see any api/lib things I can use |
| 08:35.45 | frikinz | wZ: probably ask in #perl . IPC::Run |
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| 08:37.13 | frikinz | wZ: https://metacpan.org/search?q=apt |
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| 08:43.54 | wZ | Or, is there anyone with a debian environmens with +1000 boxes ? |
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| 08:44.33 | xgl | hi all |
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| 08:46.20 | frikinz | +1000 boxes running debian. hummm I wish |
| 08:46.36 | gnarface | wZ: you can just change a flag in your debconf config and tell it not to ask questions |
| 08:46.36 | nsadmin | careful what you wish for :) |
| 08:47.02 | gnarface | wZ: or if you know the answers ahead of time you could provide them in a preseeding file |
| 08:47.42 | wZ | gnarface: Yes that I know. I just want to know how people with +1000 boxes handle updates |
| 08:47.47 | wZ | I have my own local repo |
| 08:47.53 | wZ | and looked into unattended-upgrades |
| 08:47.59 | wZ | but that does reporting over e-mail |
| 08:48.09 | wZ | and not all of my boxes have e-mail services |
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| 08:48.31 | gnarface | for any particular reason? |
| 08:48.37 | wZ | I also have boxes in private address space, or boxes with specific e-mail services etc |
| 08:48.56 | wZ | I want something that reports back to a service |
| 08:49.00 | wZ | to know if a box needs a reboot or not |
| 08:49.07 | wZ | and if everything was sucessfull or not |
| 08:49.08 | wZ | .. |
| 08:49.12 | Sevet | you could run your own mail server for them to report into on the server hosting the local repo |
| 08:49.37 | gnarface | i like that idea |
| 08:49.38 | nsadmin | unattended upgrades (really I mean any upgrades that happen without your knowledge) can change your system and break its functionality |
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| 08:49.52 | Sevet | that server can then forward it to wherever |
| 08:50.01 | wZ | nsadmin: yes, but they use a specific repo where I only push packages in that I want to see upgraded |
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| 08:50.13 | nsadmin | oh, that's different |
| 08:50.34 | wZ | The problem is that e-mail reporting is bad. I want updates to a service or database somewhere. |
| 08:50.38 | nsadmin | and, in that case it's not upgrade that happens without your knowledge |
| 08:50.44 | wZ | indeed |
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| 08:53.01 | frikinz | there's /var/log/dpkg.log which reports all successful installed package |
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| 08:53.45 | frikinz | http://packages.debian.org/fr/sid/libdpkg-log-perl |
| 08:53.48 | wZ | frikinz: how can I detect if a reboot is needed or not ? If I write some upgrade script in perl ? Is the reboot flag logged in the dpkg file ? |
| 08:53.59 | jeredepp | wZ: we got not 1000 but 50 servers, and we got a perl script which executes a command over ssh on all sattelites. But softwareupdates are alaways a bit risky if you do them unattended |
| 08:54.27 | frikinz | reboot needed? never saw that |
| 08:54.52 | wZ | frikinz: kernel updates ? |
| 08:55.01 | wZ | jeredepp: How does your perl talk to apt ? |
| 08:55.10 | frikinz | kernel upgrades yes. ksplice .. tricky.. |
| 08:55.19 | wZ | jeredepp: can I see that script somewhere without passwords or so ? :) |
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| 08:57.54 | jeredepp | wZ: let me censor it first |
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| 08:59.09 | ksuhku | hands over the NDA forms |
| 09:00.05 | wZ | jeredepp: thanks :) |
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| 09:32.47 | pkkm | In output of `aptitude search <package name>`, when the package name is preceded by "id", what does the "d" mean? |
| 09:32.56 | pkkm | Example: id alien - convert and install rpm and other packages |
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| 09:38.14 | berarma | pkkm: it means the package is going to be removed |
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| 09:40.38 | pkkm | berarma: How do I "confirm" the removal? |
| 09:41.35 | berarma | pkkm: aptitude does pending changes when any upgrade command is run |
| 09:41.45 | berarma | pkkm: you should read the manpage and docs |
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| 09:47.20 | pkkm | berarma: Thanks. |
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| 10:05.32 | yogg | Hi |
| 10:05.32 | yogg | I have an problem with "nfs-common" -> "Starting NFS common utilities: statd failed!". I have found simmilar issues where statd can't register itself to portmap |
| 10:05.42 | yogg | but no way how i can fix this |
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| 10:05.58 | yogg | has someone an idea? |
| 10:06.39 | thomaschaaf | Diopter: you here again I made tsharks which show different situations. Maybe you can see a difference.. |
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| 10:12.23 | ChrisH | yogg: Please pastebin rpcinfo -p ; rpcinfo -t localhost portmap for the beginning |
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| 10:15.40 | yogg | ChrisH: the commands bring up an error "error of the remote system - timeout was reached" (translated) |
| 10:15.54 | yogg | seems portmap is not running |
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| 10:16.28 | yogg | but "/etc/init.d/portmap status" says that portmap is running |
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| 10:17.13 | yogg | netstat -tulpen also shows me "udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:111 0.0.0.0:* 0 4875060 7089/portmap" |
| 10:17.52 | nicon` | Hello all. I've got problem with logrotate on debian... I've set size parameter to 100G, file is 12G, and when I run logrotate it's rotating this file. |
| 10:18.07 | nicon` | It's working for smaller file, for example size=5G. |
| 10:18.16 | nicon` | But I need make it bigger. |
| 10:18.21 | nicon` | Any help? |
| 10:18.39 | oggei | maybe it's rotating also based on age |
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| 10:19.32 | nicon` | oggei: http://pastebin.com/Xquh1a8H |
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| 10:21.29 | oggei | is the file a week old ? |
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| 10:21.37 | nicon` | oggei: nope. |
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| 10:21.40 | nicon` | I've just created it. |
| 10:22.08 | nicon` | dd if=/dev/zero of=mysql.log.1 bs=1230 count=0 seek=$[1000*1000*10] |
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| 10:22.31 | yogg | my firewall blocked portmap :( thanks for the help |
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| 10:22.56 | oggei | nicon`: try w/ a 99 "gig" file |
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| 10:23.41 | oggei | ah no ok sorry |
| 10:24.02 | nicon` | Same problem :-) |
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| 10:26.05 | berarma | nicon`: weekly Log files are rotated if the current weekday is less than the weekday of the last rotation or if more than a week has passed since the last rotation. |
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| 10:26.37 | nicon` | So... |
| 10:26.38 | berarma | nicon`: it's from the manpage |
| 10:26.48 | nicon` | ? |
| 10:26.55 | berarma | nicon`: it doesn't say anything about file creation date, but last rotation |
| 10:27.08 | nicon` | So there was no rotation of this file. |
| 10:27.09 | berarma | nicon`: I'm not sure that's the problem but it could be |
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| 10:27.57 | berarma | nicon`: what does it happen if you take out "weekly"? |
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| 10:28.45 | berarma | nicon`: or you can just run logrotate twice |
| 10:28.56 | berarma | nicon`: the second one should check for the file size |
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| 10:29.06 | nicon` | Same thing. Without weekly it's still rotating. |
| 10:29.34 | nicon` | berarma: I tried run logrotate twice. |
| 10:29.36 | nicon` | One by one. |
| 10:29.43 | nicon` | Still same problem. |
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| 10:33.11 | berarma | nicon`: do you have some other logrotate file for /var/log/mysql/*? |
| 10:33.18 | berarma | nicon`: it might be getting in the way |
| 10:33.34 | nicon` | Nope. |
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| 10:35.18 | nicon` | Nothing's there. |
| 10:35.30 | berarma | nicon`: sry, I'm out of ideas |
| 10:35.44 | nicon` | :-( |
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| 10:51.43 | steampunkez | hey peeps. how do i configure keyboard layout for X? |
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| 10:52.19 | berarma | steampunkez: from your DE |
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| 10:52.59 | steampunkez | bars0: i want to set the default one, so i can just have the DE refer to the default |
| 10:53.21 | steampunkez | as in, set up X. evdev smth |
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| 10:53.57 | babilen | !tell steampunkez -about keymap |
| 10:54.53 | steampunkez | babilen: thanks. didn-t write down so now i need to repeat |
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| 10:58.35 | steampunkez | babilen: setxkbmap didn-t work... |
| 10:58.46 | steampunkez | *after the reconfigure, that is |
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| 11:00.35 | steampunkez | let me try restarting X... |
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| 11:02.22 | steampunkey | it didn`t :( |
| 11:02.26 | nicon` | berarma: it looks like it's debian problem. |
| 11:02.34 | nicon` | I've checked it on centos and it's working... |
| 11:03.00 | steampunkey | babilen: where can i see the settings *which config*? |
| 11:03.02 | berarma | nicon`: that means little |
| 11:03.22 | nicon` | same version on debian, kubuntu and centos. |
| 11:03.36 | nicon` | on debian and kubuntu it's not working. |
| 11:04.01 | nicon` | I think I'll write own logrotate for mysql log. |
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| 11:04.45 | ksuhku | nicon`, perhaps start with filing a bug |
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| 11:07.04 | berarma | nicon`: I think it has more to do with your custom configuration |
| 11:07.28 | berarma | nicon`: this line is suspicious "/var/log/mysql/mysql.log.1 {" |
| 11:07.57 | nicon` | berarma: gimme one minute. |
| 11:08.09 | babilen | steampunkey: Which DE/WM and login manager do you use? Are you sure that you don't set a keymap via a DE and that Xorg does indeed use a different keymap from the one that is configured in /etc/default/keyboard? If that is the case, could you paste /etc/default/keyboard and /var/log/Xorg.0.log to http://paste.debian.net ? |
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| 11:09.02 | babilen | steampunkey: And what exactly do you mean by "setxkbmap didn-t work" ? It doesn't work in what way? What have you done (exactly), what did you expect to happen and what happened instead? |
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| 11:09.56 | FGH` | hi i cant stop my mysql server |
| 11:10.00 | FGH` | it just says failed |
| 11:10.05 | FGH` | Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld failed! |
| 11:10.08 | FGH` | what can i do |
| 11:11.01 | nicon` | berarma: http://pastebin.com/kEvXBk9E |
| 11:11.03 | nicon` | it's on centos. |
| 11:11.15 | nicon` | I've checked same configuration on debian/ubuntu. |
| 11:11.46 | nicon` | And logrotate tried to rotate file with both configurations (36 and 34G). |
| 11:12.44 | berarma | nicon`: you may have discovered a difference with centos or a bug |
| 11:13.04 | steampunkey | babilen: xfce4/startx, /var/log/Xorg.0.log shows an incorrect layout. i thought simply writing out setxkbmap woudl update the setting. instead, the log says what it does. |
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| 11:17.28 | babilen | steampunkey: Update what setting? Did you run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" and is the correct keymap listed in /etc/default/keyboard? Did you restart Xorg? Why do you use setxkbmap and which command did you use exactly? |
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| 11:24.39 | shlafrock | guys help me i'm getting so frustrated ... i pressed some combination in screen session and it looks like it's locked its something like ctrl+s or something .. i can't type anything now :/ |
| 11:25.12 | nkuttler | shlafrock: ctrl-q |
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| 11:26.02 | shlafrock | nope ... |
| 11:26.18 | frikinz | shlafrock: ctrl-a then q |
| 11:26.19 | shlafrock | well it looks like i can create new window now .. but i can't type on that locked screen |
| 11:26.26 | shlafrock | YAAAA |
| 11:26.30 | shlafrock | man thanks |
| 11:26.33 | shlafrock | uffff |
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| 11:30.39 | steampunkey | babilen: update the xorg config setting wherever it might now be. i did run that, the lazout was listed and entered in *keyboard. i did restart. i used setxbmap before i restarted, but to no avail, which is why i restarted. |
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| 11:30.56 | steampunkey | i used setxkbmap with no switches or anything |
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| 11:31.09 | jelly | does debian-live have a boot parameter to load itself fully into RAM and disconnect from the cdrom device? |
| 11:31.10 | quebre | hi |
| 11:31.16 | quebre | ,v qmake4 |
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| 11:31.17 | judd | No package named 'qmake4' was found in i386. |
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| 11:31.27 | jelly | quebre: /msg the bot |
| 11:31.27 | quebre | how can i install qmake4 ? |
| 11:31.30 | babilen | steampunkey: What are you trying to change with setxkbmap? Which keymap is listed in /etc/default/keyboard, what in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and which one do you want? |
| 11:31.31 | quebre | jelly: ok sorry ;p |
| 11:32.02 | steampunkey | babilen: i want the one in keyboard, not the one in .log. the latter is the default, US. the former is mine. |
| 11:32.17 | frikinz | judd: you tried appending "toram" ? |
| 11:32.27 | babilen | "mine" ? |
| 11:32.28 | frikinz | jelly: you tried appending "toram" ? |
| 11:32.35 | steampunkey | i want to change the layout obviously |
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| 11:32.53 | frikinz | jelly: that was like this a long time ago on knoppix at least.. |
| 11:32.53 | steampunkey | babilen: what does it matter? it-s not us |
| 11:33.06 | jelly | quebre: maybe qt4-qmake is what you're looking for? I can't find any "qmake4" |
| 11:34.29 | quebre | jelly: i have hard time sattisfying these dependencies for xmms2 gui client: http://pastebin.com/VREDhquk |
| 11:35.08 | babilen | steampunkey: Please paste the information I asked about earlier - But I am off for lunch now. My understanding right now is that /etc/default/keyboard lists the correct keymap (i.e. "mine"), that you don't have *any* keymap specific configuration in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (deprecated) or /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/* and that Xorg uses a different (i.e. "en_US.???") keymap. Furthermore XFCE4 is configured to use "mine" but it doesn't take effect. Is that ... |
| 11:35.14 | babilen | ... correct? |
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| 11:36.00 | Sevet | ,v xmms2 |
| 11:36.01 | judd | Package: xmms2 on i386 -- lenny: 0.5DrLecter-2; squeeze: 0.7DrNo+dfsg-2; sid: 0.8+dfsg-4; wheezy: 0.8+dfsg-4 |
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| 11:36.06 | steampunkey | babilen: true, only xfce is configured to use the +default+ |
| 11:36.09 | Sevet | quebre: xmms2 is already packaged |
| 11:36.13 | quebre | Sevet: i have xmms2 installed. |
| 11:36.23 | steampunkey | babilen: default is obviously us, as the .log says |
| 11:36.34 | steampunkey | it didnt change along with /keyboard |
| 11:36.36 | Agiofws | ηελλο |
| 11:36.37 | babilen | steampunkey: So, what do you have in /etc/default/keyboard ? |
| 11:36.37 | quebre | but i'm installing http://git.xmms.se/xmms2/promoe - the XMMS2 GUI client |
| 11:36.38 | Agiofws | hello |
| 11:36.40 | Agiofws | hey is there a channel for openoffice ? |
| 11:36.41 | Agiofws | Agiofws please ? |
| 11:36.49 | steampunkey | babilen: dude. i have my layout |
| 11:37.41 | Sevet | quebre: re your pastebin, it doesn't matter that qmake4 is not found - it's looking for what qmake options there are and found qmake-qt4 and qmake (a symlink to the 1st probably), it only needs one of those |
| 11:37.58 | Sevet | and you're missing the debug versions of the modules, but it's found the release versions - that's fine |
| 11:38.07 | quebre | so i just make symlink right? |
| 11:38.35 | quebre | ln -s /usr/bin/qmake-qt4 /usr/bin/qmake4 |
| 11:38.38 | quebre | lets try ;p |
| 11:38.40 | Sevet | no! |
| 11:38.53 | quebre | hmm |
| 11:38.57 | Sevet | you don't need to, it's found the other. configure doesn't need -everything- to be there, just one of the possibilities |
| 11:39.09 | Sevet | xmms2-client-cpp is in: |
| 11:39.12 | Sevet | ,v libxmmsclient++-dev |
| 11:39.13 | judd | Package: libxmmsclient++-dev on i386 -- lenny: 0.5DrLecter-2; squeeze: 0.7DrNo+dfsg-2; sid: 0.8+dfsg-4; wheezy: 0.8+dfsg-4 |
| 11:39.18 | Sevet | that's probably what you're missing |
| 11:39.36 | quebre | oh |
| 11:39.38 | quebre | yep |
| 11:39.38 | babilen | steampunkey: It's just hard to understand your problem without any real information (i.e. configuration files, logs, ...) -- I would try a reboot and double-check that no keymap is configured in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/* ... |
| 11:39.41 | quebre | it's installing now |
| 11:39.46 | Sevet | !tell quebre about apt-file |
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| 11:39.55 | quebre | i use apt-file often ;p |
| 11:40.07 | quebre | but i did like apt-file -l search qmake4 and found nothing ;) |
| 11:40.25 | quebre | 'configure' finished successfully (0.108s) |
| 11:40.26 | quebre | ha ! |
| 11:40.27 | quebre | thanks |
| 11:41.20 | steampunkey | babilen: there are no such files/folders. i-m really telling the truth about the keymap being set in one place and not the other. will restart, won-t help i bet |
| 11:41.44 | steampunkey | in fact i-ll feel worse if it does |
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| 11:43.24 | piorekf | will debian testing work on a machine with Transmeta Crusoe CPU? |
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| 11:44.28 | babilen | steampunkey: May I take a look at your /etc/default/keyboard and /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? (will be back soonish) |
| 11:44.31 | k-man | is there a tool sort of like ping that can give me more of an continuous overview of a few hosts? |
| 11:44.34 | nsadmin | steampunkey, you're saying you'd feel worse if it turns out that something you don't expect is what's true... I would like to suggest a different interpretation and response... |
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| 11:45.04 | nsadmin | you should feel better as you've just learned something and have it conformed in your mind |
| 11:45.26 | babilen | would appreciate some real output and configuration files |
| 11:45.33 | nsadmin | err confirmed |
| 11:45.35 | nkuttler | piorekf: i thought transmeta chips were supposed to be x86 compatible |
| 11:45.41 | nkuttler | piorekf: oh, and linus worked there.. |
| 11:46.12 | jelly | frikinz: thanks, toram seems to be doing the trick! |
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| 11:46.44 | frikinz | jelly: good. I've seen this bug report where toram works but the user can't eject the cd.. hope it works for you |
| 11:46.45 | piorekf | nkuttler: i also thought that they are x86 compatible but my friend is trying to scare me that i will have problems with it |
| 11:47.16 | piorekf | nkuttler: it appears that is i586 compatible and most distros are now compiled for i686 and hence the problems |
| 11:47.23 | jelly | frikinz: good, that's not a problem here |
| 11:47.24 | frikinz | piorekf: looks like : CONFIG_CPU_SUP_TRANSMETA_32=y |
| 11:47.27 | piorekf | nkuttler: but fortunatelly Debian is still i386 compatible |
| 11:47.35 | piorekf | frikinz: great, thanks :) |
| 11:47.55 | jelly | piorekf: mmm, actually 486 is the oldest supported cpu |
| 11:48.06 | frikinz | Disabling it on a Transmeta |
| 11:48.08 | frikinz | CPU might render the kernel unbootable |
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| 11:53.02 | frikinz | I have a nice aptosid usb key on which I add nonfree drivers on every laptop I try it. It has this "permanent" storage with aufs. So now the key boots and all works (nvidia,amd, wifi) on a lot of laptops. quite nice |
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| 11:53.26 | SkAzZ | Hello, in the Debian Installer, can I get "d-i netcfg/choose_interface" to choose a nic by its name? Like Broadcom instead of Intel |
| 11:53.38 | vampirnata | Hello! Does anyone have decent experience with VPN/racoon setups? |
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| 11:55.06 | evil-man | SkAzZ: not, you can't. |
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| 11:55.43 | SkAzZ | evil-man: How about by MAC address? |
| 11:56.32 | SkAzZ | evil-man: Ah, fon da way to script it I think.. |
| 11:56.45 | evil-man | SkAzZ: press alt+F2 and run ip link ls. |
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| 11:57.52 | enkrypt | I just installed Debian wheezy beta 1 on a brand new HP Spectre XT. it shows me grub, it boots, I see some text, but then he tries changing the resolution, and afterwards the screen goes black and stays that way. I did not install any desktop environment |
| 11:58.02 | enkrypt | I tried different GRUB options, like gfxmode etc, but no help |
| 11:58.15 | enkrypt | what can I do now to fix this? booting into single user doesnt help |
| 11:58.21 | evil-man | SkAzZ: but this way is actual if you use installer in text mode. |
| 11:58.34 | nkuttler | enkrypt: how does single user mode not help? |
| 11:58.54 | enkrypt | nkuttler: it shows some lines of kernel text, and after a few seconds I see he tries to change my resolution, and screen goes blank |
| 11:59.05 | enkrypt | nkuttler: even in "recovery mode" he does that |
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| 11:59.25 | ccsabathia52 | !ops |
| 11:59.25 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. |
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| 11:59.36 | ccsabathia52 | kdpg: ops $problem |
| 11:59.42 | ccsabathia52 | dkpg: ops $problem |
| 11:59.46 | groupcat | ccsabathia52: stop that |
| 11:59.47 | bazhang | ccsabathia52, stop that |
| 11:59.52 | bazhang | jinx |
| 11:59.53 | ccsabathia52 | fuck all you crackers |
| 11:59.57 | SkAzZ | evil-man: It is a remote installer so it is in text mode over ssh .. but I need the preseed to choose the network adapter.. I think I found a script that will let me select it by mac address |
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| 12:00.55 | steampunkey | nsadmin: i-d feel worse because it-d make less sense |
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| 12:08.21 | queso_ | I've installed the flashplugin-nonfree package but it's not working in iceweasel. I've also installed the latest release of iceweasel via mozilla.debian.net. Any ideas? |
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| 12:08.33 | testiiiii | Hi |
| 12:08.36 | testiiiii | can somebody heklp me? |
| 12:09.07 | abrotman | you have to ask a question first |
| 12:09.23 | mallxs | queso i use for flash the chrome browser |
| 12:09.42 | testiiiii | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:09.50 | testiiiii | and i want to dpkg-buildpackage a deb package , does it include my keyring |
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| 12:10.04 | testiiiii | or do i have to tell dpkg-buildpackage the gpg keyring |
| 12:10.11 | berarma | queso_: what happens when you try? |
| 12:11.09 | queso_ | berarma: It just says "A plugin is needed to display this content . . Install plugin..." |
| 12:11.11 | testiiiii | or do i have to tell dpkg-buildpackage the gpg keyring |
| 12:11.28 | testiiiii | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:11.44 | mallxs | Hi i need some hardware advice: looking at a SABERTOOTH Z77/i7 it has onboard video .. will that work with my Debian ? |
| 12:11.44 | gnarface | testiiiii: i think it includes it by default as long as you used the default name and you're creating the package as the same user |
| 12:11.56 | berarma | queso_: dpkg -l flashplugin-nonfree |
| 12:11.59 | jhutchins_wk | testiiiii: There is no need to repeat your question that frequently. At least wait until it scrolls off screen. |
| 12:12.02 | gnarface | testiiiii: in fact i believe you will see some sort of warning or error if it does not find it |
| 12:12.12 | testiiiii | gnarface: what do you mean by default name? |
| 12:12.13 | frikinz | testiiiii: it will take it. I suggest reading the manpage of dpkg-buildpackage which is quite clear |
| 12:12.24 | gnarface | testiiiii: i forget |
| 12:12.32 | testiiiii | frikinz: have i to tell dpkg-buildpackage the key ring name? |
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| 12:13.18 | jhutchins_wk | testiiiii: Why not just try it? |
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| 12:13.45 | Gargantua | Does anyone here run pytyle3 by any chance? |
| 12:14.02 | abrotman | maybe, ask your real question |
| 12:14.05 | abrotman | polls suck |
| 12:14.24 | mallxs | queso_: btw i have moved the flash plugin to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so and it also works in my Iceweasel |
| 12:14.38 | Gargantua | http://bpaste.net/show/42996 |
| 12:14.41 | testiiiii | frikinz: have i to tell dpkg-buildpackage the key ring name? |
| 12:14.47 | Gargantua | Any idea wtf that means? |
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| 12:15.04 | babilen | testiiiii: You can set the DEBSIGN_KEYID if you want to specify a key, but it should use a key from your keyring that matches your email address. Please also read "man debsign" and note that packaging questions are handled in #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net (aka irc.debian.org) |
| 12:15.14 | abrotman | seems pretty obvious to me Gargantua |
| 12:15.14 | testiiiii | ah okay |
| 12:15.34 | babilen | testiiiii: All that is also discussed in the new maintainer's guide -- /msg dpkg nmg |
| 12:15.37 | testiiiii | babilen: it compares my mail address from /DEBIAN/control with the mail address from the keyring babilen |
| 12:15.53 | abrotman | Gargantua: but perhaps you should ask them |
| 12:16.03 | frikinz | testiiiii: it takes the one provided by -k or the one linked to the maintainer email |
| 12:16.11 | testiiiii | yes |
| 12:16.18 | testiiiii | maintainer mail from the DEBIAN / control right? |
| 12:16.42 | abrotman | testiiiii: there are tons of docs about how to do this .. please read them before asking basic questions in here |
| 12:16.46 | Gargantua | Eh |
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| 12:17.07 | testiiiii | abrotman: it's my last question |
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| 12:17.21 | babilen | testiiiii: In short: You want a ~/.devscripts configuration file and set DEBSIGN_KEYID= in there -- Please see /usr/share/doc/devscripts/devscripts.conf.ex for an example (from the devscripts package) |
| 12:17.35 | Gargantua | abrotman: mind sharing your insight? |
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| 12:17.59 | queso_ | mallxs: So I should copy or ln -s the flash-mozilla.so file in that directory to libflashplayer.so? |
| 12:18.07 | testiiiii | it reads out my mail address which i put in /DEBIAN/control and it compares with the mail address from the installed keyring? babilen frikinz |
| 12:18.10 | babilen | testiiiii: But please read the the New Maintainer's Guide and ask follow-up questions in #debian-mentors on OFTC |
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| 12:19.03 | PhoenixSTF | I am having a issue booting net-install iso Thruu Grub2, it fails to detect CD-ROM, this hapen since 6.0.3, where can I get a older version? |
| 12:19.16 | berarma | queso_: please, run "dpkg -l flashplugin-nonfree" and copy the last line here |
| 12:19.46 | babilen | testiiiii: I set the DEBEMAIL environment variable so tools such as dch pick up the correct address when I edit debian/changelog -- IIRC it uses the address in the lates changelog entry. But lets take it to -mentors |
| 12:19.58 | mallxs | queso_: you can just copy the file to that dir |
| 12:20.05 | jhutchins_wk | PhoenixSTF: Netinstall does not require a CD, perhaps you got the boot.iso instead of netinstall? |
| 12:20.10 | queso_ | berarma: ii flashplugin-no 1:2.8.5 amd64 Adobe Flash Player - browser plug |
| 12:20.21 | testiiiii | babilen: i need an invite for #debian-mentors! |
| 12:20.31 | testiiiii | on FreeNode |
| 12:20.33 | abrotman | queso_: why not just run 'update-flashplugin --install' |
| 12:20.40 | babilen | testiiiii: As mentioned previously the channel is on OFTC not here on Freenode |
| 12:20.40 | abrotman | testiiiii: are you packaging for Debian or another distro ? |
| 12:20.48 | queso_ | abrotman: I have run that (as root). |
| 12:21.01 | abrotman | queso_: so what's the problem ? |
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| 12:21.26 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_lt, i am certain that I got the net install "debian-6.0.5-i386-netinst.iso" I am trying to boot under Grub2 |
| 12:21.31 | berarma | queso_: are you using squeeze? |
| 12:21.34 | queso_ | abrotman: The problem is that Flash isn't working on websites in iceweasel or chromium. |
| 12:21.44 | queso_ | berarma: sorry, no, I'm on testing/wheezy. |
| 12:21.44 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins_wk, i am certain that I got the net install "debian-6.0.5-i386-netinst.iso" I am trying to boot under Grub2 |
| 12:21.58 | berarma | queso_: m.d.n is for squeeze |
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| 12:22.15 | mallxs | any advice on a video card that will support two screens with debian ? |
| 12:22.25 | abrotman | queso_: ls -l /etc/alternatives/flash<tab> |
| 12:22.26 | queso_ | berarma: but testing/wheezing, after I just installed it, had iceweasel 10. |
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| 12:22.45 | berarma | queso_: use that or install a newer version from experimental |
| 12:22.50 | queso_ | abrotman: /etc/alternatives/flash-mozilla.so |
| 12:22.53 | berarma | !tell queso_ -about mdn |
| 12:23.25 | quebre | how can i update java for firefox to latest version ? |
| 12:23.27 | abrotman | queso_: and it points to ... ? |
| 12:23.39 | queso_ | berarma: oh, right, yeah -- I did install it from experimental. sorry, I got confused, because it was via mozilla.debian.net that I learned to install it from experimental. |
| 12:23.39 | abrotman | that's what the -l was for |
| 12:23.44 | ws2k3 | if i visit my debianbox /dir i see the conect of the dir how to hide this ? |
| 12:23.50 | abrotman | berarma: the version of the debian package doesn't matter |
| 12:23.54 | queso_ | abrotman: oh, right :) /etc/alternatives/flash-mozilla.so -> /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so |
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| 12:24.23 | abrotman | queso_: and that file actually exists? and in your FF/IW, it has says nothing about flash or swf ? |
| 12:24.27 | frikinz | hum update-flash. should put this in a cron.. I hate flash |
| 12:25.17 | queso_ | abrotman: in IW, it does show up in the plugins list. and yes, the file exists. |
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| 12:25.42 | queso_ | abrotman, berarma: unfortunately, I have to leave for work now. :( but thanks for your help, I'll come back in here tonight. |
| 12:25.47 | abrotman | k |
| 12:25.48 | tmroland | i cant get wireless in installer of debian 6.0.5 got atheros, i need net, what to do |
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| 12:25.49 | tmroland | ?? |
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| 12:28.11 | quebre | how can i update java for firefox to latest version ? |
| 12:30.46 | babilen | tmroland: What kind of wireless network are you trying to connect to? Is it encrypted? If so: How? Which atheros adapter do you use exactly? Can you connect via ethernet as well? On what kind of hardware (CPU, RAM, ...) are you installing? |
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| 12:35.48 | afidegnum | hello good morning all, pls I am having error applying a patch, is someone familiar with it so he can pls help? |
| 12:36.00 | Woet | afidegnum: try asking your actual question |
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| 12:37.18 | SkAzZ | I cannot get debian to boot without asking me to press ctrl+d .. My filesystem shows "Free blocks count wrong" when its mounted but when I boot into a live cd and fsck it does not find any such error |
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| 12:37.19 | afidegnum | I have an error of patching file. here is the error import.incHunk #1 FAILED at 40.Hunk #2 FAILED at 107.Hunk #3 FAILED at 126.Hunk #4 FAILED at 133.4 out of 4 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file import.inc.rej |
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| 12:37.37 | afidegnum | here is the file to patch, http://drupal.org/files/1713570-schema-change.patch |
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| 12:38.50 | namoamitabuddha | Hi, folk |
| 12:39.01 | namoamitabuddha | Is iceweasel maintained now? |
| 12:39.19 | ws2k3 | how can i see if my mysql server has dns disabled ? |
| 12:39.28 | afidegnum | any idea, pls ? |
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| 12:40.51 | ChrisH | ws2k3: no /etc/resolv.conf Or do you really refer to the mysql process ? |
| 12:41.04 | frikinz | afidegnum: this is not very specific to debian.. if you have used patch -p1 < ../thepatch in the proper directory then you are probably applying the patch on the wrong original version of the file ? |
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| 12:41.24 | ws2k3 | i realy mean the mysql process |
| 12:41.41 | frikinz | namoamitabuddha: err yes, why not? http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/iceweasel.html |
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| 12:42.24 | namoamitabuddha | frikinz: Thanks! |
| 12:42.32 | ChrisH | ws2k3: I do not expect mysql having an option to disable DNS lookups. I expect it to ro gethosts or similar calls. And they are system-wide configured. |
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| 12:43.13 | namoamitabuddha | frikinz: http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/iceweasel/news/20120831T090109Z.html |
| 12:43.32 | namoamitabuddha | frikinz: It seems that Fx15 is accepted but ... |
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| 12:45.47 | CyberDomovoy | hi |
| 12:46.16 | berarma | SkAzZ: you should run "fsck -a" on the partition |
| 12:47.25 | berarma | namoamitabuddha: but? |
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| 12:48.23 | SkAzZ | berarma: I did 'fsck -p -y -c' which is automatic repair and check for bad blocks.. |
| 12:48.33 | namoamitabuddha | berarma: But you can check the latest version in experimental is still 14. |
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| 12:49.07 | berarma | namoamitabuddha: don't get it |
| 12:49.16 | namoamitabuddha | berarma: ? |
| 12:49.18 | CyberDomovoy | i'm trying to setup dnsmasq as my main nameserver, but NetworkManager keeps rewriting my /etc/resolv.conf. Actually this not bad, since i get the nameservers provided by dhcp in there, but i'd like to have "nameserver 127.0.0.1" prepended there. Any idea how to do that? (i tried "prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1" in dhclient.conf, didn't help) |
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| 12:50.06 | berarma | SkAzZ: did you do it in the affected partition? |
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| 12:50.44 | gnarface | CyberDomovoy: are you sure dhclient.conf is the right config file? (i don't know but that sounds wrong for networkmanager) |
| 12:50.51 | SkAzZ | berarma: Yes, in my case its /dev/vg0/lv0 |
| 12:52.27 | berarma | CyberDomovoy: see package resolvconf |
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| 12:53.57 | CyberDomovoy | berarma: i don't have resolvconf installed, so it can't modify my resolv.conf. Do you mean i should install it? |
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| 12:54.42 | CyberDomovoy | gnarface: well, no, but where should i look then? isn't NM using dhclient for dhcp connections? |
| 12:54.45 | berarma | CyberDomovoy: I don't use it myself, but it may do what you want, I don't know |
| 12:54.57 | gnarface | CyberDomovoy: i belive you're wrong about what resolvconf does |
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| 12:55.44 | CyberDomovoy | berarma: well, i was hoping for a way to get what i want without installing anything, but maybe i have to... |
| 12:55.50 | gnarface | CyberDomovoy: i avoid networkmanager so i don't know but i think actually whatever it is doing it probably is NOT doing whatever you expect to be the sanest obvious, sensible thing to do. that's been my experience with it at least |
| 12:56.08 | clod89_ | yesterday i tried squeeze on my old ibook g4 and it was working like a charm today i've installed wheezy and i'm having issues with the wireless device (bcm 4306), i've installed the nonfree firmware and such, it can scan but when trying to connect it keeps outputting calling crda to update world regulatoru domain, and that's it |
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| 12:57.15 | gnarface | CyberDomovoy: also, fyi there are multiple dhcp client packages available, and i think they have different configs |
| 12:57.44 | CyberDomovoy | gnarface: actually, i don't like NM, but since it is the default, i'm looking for a way to get my system doing what i want with as less changes as possible |
| 12:58.16 | berarma | clod89_: what's the message text? |
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| 12:59.24 | gnarface | CyberDomovoy: doesn't NM have some sort of graphical interface to add alternate DNS servers? |
| 12:59.52 | clod89_ | berarma: that one, if i use wpa_supplicant it associates and then after a while it says that the preshared key is incorrect and keeps trying to re associate (i've already checked that the key is correct) |
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| 13:00.59 | berarma | clod89_: have you completed the installation? |
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| 13:01.17 | CyberDomovoy | gnarface: no, i can ask it tu use dhcp only for the iface address, and give it the nameserver it should use, but then i loose the ability to get them from dhcp, i don't want that, i just want to add 127.0.0.1 before them |
| 13:01.19 | clod89_ | berarma: yes using an ethernet cable |
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| 13:02.22 | gnarface | CyberDomovoy: i'd check the network manager documentation. i believe it has its own config files somewhere |
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| 13:02.40 | namoamitabuddha | adam8157: Hi, guy. |
| 13:02.45 | Gryllida | hi! how do I find package name or description if I know a path of a file that belongs to the package? |
| 13:02.48 | CyberDomovoy | hmmm, i have a /etc/dhclient and a /etc/dhclient3, why is that? |
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| 13:03.14 | adam8157 | namoamitabuddha: huh, you are here too |
| 13:03.20 | gnarface | CyberDomovoy: no actually that is a lie. i would not be using network manager, i'd just be manually configuring the /etc/network/interfaces file, and if i was using DHCP i'd be running my own DHCP server so i could just add 127.0.0.1 directly to DHCP, but that's what YOU should do |
| 13:03.33 | deuterium | strangely, /etc/init.d/checkfs.sh fails at boot with fsck exit code 8. when i fsck the same device (/dev/md0/) on the running box, fsck says it's all clean. whyt could be the problem? |
| 13:03.40 | berarma | clod89_: you can look for a bug, file one if you can't find it |
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| 13:04.02 | clod89_ | berarma: nevermind got it sorted, i must have made a typo somewhere i could not find i copied over wpa_supplicant.conf from another laptop and it works fine |
| 13:04.05 | deuterium | and can i run /etc/init.d/checkfs.sh on a running system just to try to reproduce the error? |
| 13:04.20 | gnarface | CyberDomovoy: it is possible you have more than one dhcp client installed. this could be problematic, especially if NM doesn't want ANY installed. resolvconf MIGHT be something NM *does* want to have installed though so you may want to check on that. |
| 13:04.54 | namoamitabuddha | adam8157: Occasionally. |
| 13:05.27 | CyberDomovoy | gnarface: i did it before asking here, leaded me to either; dhclient config (which didn't work, but maybe it will if i make my changes to /etc/dhclient instead of dhclient3), resolvconf (which i don't have), or its dns=nsmasq option (which doesn't allow configuring dnsmasq) |
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| 13:06.45 | gnarface | CyberDomovoy: no, listen, resolvconf doesn't give you /etc/resolv.conf, get that out of your head. all the resolvconf package does is allow you to override the contents of your /etc/resolv.conf with extra lines in your /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 13:06.54 | abrotman | !tell Gryllida about apt-file |
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| 13:07.28 | namoamitabuddha | abrotman: Were you using the bot dpkg? |
| 13:07.32 | Skilz | Hey for some reason I can't ssh into my server, I get 'ssh: connection to host 192.168.0.3 port 22: Connection refused' |
| 13:07.43 | abrotman | namoamitabuddha: no? |
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| 13:07.49 | abrotman | yes? |
| 13:07.53 | abrotman | namoamitabuddha: why does it matter? |
| 13:07.58 | namoamitabuddha | abrotman: Just a guesswork. |
| 13:08.02 | abrotman | .. |
| 13:08.07 | gnarface | CyberDomovoy: dhcp clients do as a rule overwrite /etc/resolv.conf though and NM does as a rule overwrite /etc/network/interfaces though so keep that in mind |
| 13:08.14 | abrotman | Skilz: firewall of some sort |
| 13:08.19 | abrotman | Skilz: or it's not listening |
| 13:08.52 | deuterium | ok, let me ask differently: is it generally safe to execute a script in /etc/init.d/ while the system is running? e.g. checkfs.sh? |
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| 13:09.10 | Skilz | abrotman: Thanks |
| 13:09.22 | gnarface | CyberDomovoy: personally i found the basic manual writing of an /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf file to be far easier to figure out than NM |
| 13:09.39 | Skilz | My other box is just hanging then times out connection to debiab |
| 13:09.41 | CyberDomovoy | gnarface: i used to configure my connection with /etc/network/interfaces too, but as i said, since NM is now the default, i'd like to deal with it, and yes, i'm aware of what resolvconf does, and that installing it would probably solve my problem, and i'll do it if there is no other way |
| 13:09.42 | Skilz | debian |
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| 13:10.11 | gnarface | CyberDomovoy: where on earth did you get the idea it is the default? its in no way the default unless you ask for defaults |
| 13:10.43 | gnarface | CyberDomovoy: you can install a debian system without network manager, i assure you. you got tricked by picking "desktop environment" or some such thing |
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| 13:12.13 | Gryllida2 | abrotman: thank you |
| 13:12.29 | gnarface | CyberDomovoy: i would imagine in most cases NM is as easy to remove or disable, although if you're using gnome you may be an exception |
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| 13:12.51 | CyberDomovoy | gnarface: well, it is for me, i never asked for it to be installed, and since a basic installation, for most "unexperienced" user is, as you said the, desktop one, this is what i want to deal with |
| 13:13.15 | Gryllida2 | what is a good way to do the "find package name or description if I know a path of a file that belongs to the package" in C without forking a child process to exec a command? |
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| 13:13.54 | gnarface | CyberDomovoy: well nobody ever said linux was about being forced to do things the easy way... |
| 13:14.23 | gnarface | CyberDomovoy: it may be a fallacy though that your use case is that of an "unexperienced" user |
| 13:14.32 | specing | CyberDomovoy: wipe that shit off your computer right now |
| 13:14.41 | CyberDomovoy | gnarface: anyway, using the config in /etc/dhclient instead of /etc/dhclient3 worked |
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| 13:15.10 | CyberDomovoy | now, i'd like to find out why i have those 2 directory, and why one isn't a symlink to the other |
| 13:15.42 | gnarface | CyberDomovoy: man dhclient? |
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| 13:16.14 | gnarface | CyberDomovoy: also /usr/share/doc/[package name] is a good place to look |
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| 13:17.25 | CyberDomovoy | gnarface: i'm aware of man and /usr/share/doc, thanks. But how would it explain why i have two separate config directories? |
| 13:18.41 | gnarface | CyberDomovoy: well, by showing you that you have two separate dhcp clients installed concurrently, i would guess, or at least documenting what each one is for otherwise. but i wasn't gonna speculate; i don't use the things. |
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| 13:19.40 | mallxs | i have compiled and installed g15daemon .. but now my Upgrade-manager is complaining: i think it cos its still is tryin gto install the g15daemon dpkg while installed my new compiled one; any i do how to fix this ? http://pastebin.com/wtrxj7nm |
| 13:19.51 | frikinz | on my machine /etc/dhcp3 only exists because of samba |
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| 13:22.29 | Skilz | Hey for some reason I can't ssh into my server, I get 'Operation timed out; |
| 13:22.35 | Skilz | After hanging for a long time |
| 13:22.52 | digdilem | Skilz, not out of disk space, are you? |
| 13:23.02 | mallxs | sorry i mashed up the typeing: I think its is because it its still trying to install the std package while my manual installed one is already running |
| 13:23.17 | Skilz | Can't be! |
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| 13:23.35 | Skilz | Nope |
| 13:24.26 | oggei | turned off ? |
| 13:24.54 | mallxs | So: how can i remove the package without it also will remove the other packages that depend on it ? or tell the manager to stop trying to install the package ? |
| 13:25.28 | oggei | mallxs: try equivs system |
| 13:25.39 | mallxs | will do |
| 13:25.45 | pmo_ | i have USB switch, kernel providing similar lines as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1a.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.3/1-1.3:1.0/input/input9, it is supposed to be swithed off and on by soft, but i am not sure how to do it with linux, any ideas ? |
| 13:26.00 | oggei | basically you have to declare a package to dpkg that satisfy dependencies declared from other packages |
| 13:26.15 | oggei | you know, if you do <g>, that this is ok cause you installed by other means |
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| 13:27.36 | milo_ | ha ha... trying debian testing... |
| 13:27.38 | pmo_ | oggei, sometimes doing an "apt-get -t unstable install " sorts out those kind of issue for me, but then you have to leave with a mix of unstable / stable soft or more |
| 13:27.58 | milo_ | what's name server address???? |
| 13:28.07 | frikinz | pmo_: probably not in a standard way, never seen a usb device have power lines manageable by software |
| 13:28.18 | mallxs | oggei: is that in Synaptic ? (sorry i'm still in the apt-get mode, have no clue how that works !) |
| 13:28.29 | oggei | mallxs apt-cache show equivs |
| 13:28.40 | oggei | it's a package providing tools for making fake pkgs |
| 13:28.44 | mallxs | ha thx |
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| 13:29.39 | pmo_ | frikinz, is a 2 way usb host.. with a button i can manage which hardware will get the device, but AFAIK, the usb switch is supposed to be manageable by soft too.. ATEN US221 |
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| 13:30.14 | digdilem | Skilz, has it ever worked? are you local to the machine? |
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| 13:36.26 | Hardcore | can dpkg help me to search in which package the binfile "gem" installed is? |
| 13:37.36 | abrotman | Hardcore: aptitude install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search gem |
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| 13:39.42 | Skilz | digdilem: I've never tried before and yes I am local. |
| 13:40.11 | Hardcore | abrotman: thanks i just have to search a bit in the output but i found it |
| 13:40.11 | Skilz | It's a VMWare install of Debian I am trying to ssh into |
| 13:40.51 | digdilem | Skilz, is package 'ssh' installed and are you trying on the default port of 22? |
| 13:41.02 | digdilem | (I'm assuming you haven't changed ports) |
| 13:41.04 | frikinz | Hardcore: apt-file search -x "/gem$" |
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| 13:41.07 | milo_ | i am currently installing in VM from a CD. I can actually install other graphical desktop environment other than GNOME 3? |
| 13:41.23 | milo_ | I saw the alternative desktop environment on the boot |
| 13:42.08 | Skilz | digdilem: Yes and yes! |
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| 13:43.12 | Hardcore | frikinz: thank you |
| 13:43.12 | digdilem | then it's most likely there's a firewall getting in the way. you could try looking at your server's logs, probably syslog or ssh* to see if it shows anything when you try |
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| 13:44.01 | milo_ | so simple, yes or no |
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| 13:46.56 | milo_ | s |
| 13:48.14 | milo_ | why is no one answering my question |
| 13:50.03 | digdilem | milo_, sure, just install any other wm you fancy |
| 13:50.12 | milo_ | ok |
| 13:50.19 | milo_ | thanks for your answer. |
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| 14:08.27 | Brigo | clod89_: non-free firmware usually are for wifi, no for 3d |
| 14:08.56 | Brigo | because you are talking about 3D, aren't you? :-) |
| 14:09.03 | sKeiths | how do i set static assigned dns server to a dhcp assigned net card. i had added a nameserver line into resolv.conf, but system seems to have overwrote that. |
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| 14:09.38 | SiDz | you can stop dhcp client to write /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 14:09.46 | SiDz | if you want to know how i'll let u know |
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| 14:10.16 | clod89_ | Brigo: yes 3d |
| 14:10.28 | clod89_ | Brigo: so what should i install? the wiki said to install that |
| 14:10.47 | sKeiths | SiDz: please tell, can see any dhc* in /etc/init.d/ folder |
| 14:11.06 | clod89_ | Brigo: and it was what made it work in squeeze (or at least after installing it it went from software to hw rendering) |
| 14:11.42 | Shadow` | huh i aptituded angband, but cant start it? |
| 14:11.51 | babilen | sKeiths: How do you configure your network? |
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| 14:12.29 | Shadow` | -bash: angband: command not found |
| 14:12.30 | sKeiths | babilen: via dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 14:13.02 | babilen | sKeiths: And you want to hardcode your DNS server? |
| 14:13.31 | sKeiths | thanks. babilen . google is telling me how now.. |
| 14:13.36 | BartJol | Hi, I can't seem to change the setting for organizationName_max in my openssl conf (using 0.9.8o-4squeeze13) Is this the proper place, or should I go to the openssl channel? |
| 14:14.01 | BartJol | off course I can change the conf file, butit doesn't seem to make a differnce |
| 14:14.11 | babilen | sKeiths: There are multiple ways and a plethora of articles/tutorials on the internet. What are you trying to do and what "is google telling you" ? |
| 14:14.16 | Brigo | clod89_: what graphic card? |
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| 14:14.36 | Shadow` | common, serious problem here, angband installed but cant run it! |
| 14:14.37 | clod89_ | Brigo: radeon 9200, it uses the R200 firmware |
| 14:14.37 | sKeiths | put dns-nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 14:15.23 | Brigo | clod89_: the first 3D card i know who uses firmware ... |
| 14:15.36 | babilen | sKeiths: Yes, that is the correct approach. Note that you need to have resolvconf installed for that to work. I just wanted to make sure because there are a couple of horrible "tips" out there. |
| 14:15.59 | babilen | sKeiths: You might also want to read "man resolvconf", but I guess that you have all the information you need already. |
| 14:16.07 | clod89_ | Brigo: Brigo that's what the AtiHowTo says in the debian wiki |
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| 14:16.25 | sKeiths | babilen, i believe i do, but i'll be back if i get stumped. |
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| 14:17.08 | Brigo | clod89_: radeon 9200 isn't in firmware-linux-nonfree ... |
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| 14:18.08 | clod89_ | Brigo: the wiki said so, and R200_cp.bin seems to come from there |
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| 14:20.04 | e-anima | there is no mysqlnd for debian 6. i think its a bad idea to insatll unstable. isnt it? |
| 14:20.17 | wjtaylor | Is there a way to change the default pastebinit url? Pastebin no longer supports that API. |
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| 14:21.17 | clod89_ | Brigo: anyway by looking at dmesg R200_cp.bin does not get picked up, it's literally not mentioned |
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| 14:21.39 | Brigo | clod89_: may be wheezy uses de free driver ... |
| 14:21.47 | Brigo | clod89_: named radeon |
| 14:22.23 | Brigo | clod89_: the non-free's name is fglrx |
| 14:22.41 | clod89_ | Brigo: it should use the free driver, but it should load the firmware (microcode) R200_cp.bin |
| 14:22.44 | Brigo | may be you need to change the driver ... |
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| 14:24.31 | frikinz | wjtaylor: you could install pastebinit from testing, wait that someone does a backport or take mine I did yesterday http://quinput.org/debfarm/pool/?C=M;O=D (note that I didn't change the version number..) |
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| 14:24.51 | frikinz | wjtaylor: dpkg -i the file and then apt-get -f install |
| 14:25.33 | frikinz | wjtaylor: this version allows user to have a configuration to change the url |
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| 14:26.08 | Brigo | clod89_: can you paste the output of your kernel or dmesg,please |
| 14:26.11 | Brigo | ? |
| 14:26.30 | clod89_ | Brigo: just a sec |
| 14:26.53 | Brigo | ok |
| 14:27.19 | Shadow` | (angband:13277): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
| 14:27.21 | Shadow` | huh |
| 14:27.36 | Shadow` | since when i need display for this txt based game? :/ |
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| 14:28.34 | sney | Shadow`: don't worry about warnings |
| 14:28.45 | Shadow` | its not starting tho |
| 14:28.48 | clod89_ | Brigo: i found this in the meantime https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2012/08/msg00027.html but it did not work |
| 14:29.31 | Brigo | are you using dkms? |
| 14:30.23 | clod89_ | Brigo: KMS is turned on by default by the kernel |
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| 14:32.06 | abrotman | kms? dkms? |
| 14:32.33 | jhutchins_wk | Kernel Mode Switchin |
| 14:32.35 | jhutchins_wk | g |
| 14:32.40 | Brigo | abrotman: my fault, we are talking about kms. |
| 14:32.41 | abrotman | i know what they are .. thanks .. |
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| 14:33.17 | clod89_ | Brigo: what can i use to pastebin dmesg? |
| 14:33.34 | abrotman | clod89_: pastebinit |
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| 14:33.41 | clod89_ | abrotman: thanks |
| 14:33.56 | abrotman | assuming you have internets |
| 14:34.18 | sKeiths | adding nameserver via dns-nameservers will not work for me, it appends name servers to and the dhcp server has previously furnished. i need to supersede a single local name server on this one box. I'd like to do it locally and not at the dhcp server end. |
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| 14:34.57 | abrotman | you can confiugre it to not request DNS at all IIRC |
| 14:34.59 | Brigo | copy & paste? :-) |
| 14:35.33 | Brigo | clod89_: In this link are talking about your problem, i think. |
| 14:35.43 | Brigo | clod89_: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=683796 |
| 14:35.59 | clod89_ | Brigo: hard to do on an ibook with only one mouse button and no ins key to paste in the termina :P, anyway http://paste.debian.net/186929 |
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| 14:36.20 | mallxs | about xmodmap .. what is the syntax to set sequence of chars to a keycode ? |
| 14:36.21 | jhutchins_wk | clod89_: Ctrl-V |
| 14:36.38 | Brigo | clod89_: it looks bad .. :-/ |
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| 14:38.49 | frikinz | sKeiths: you can superseed this in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf : supersede domain-name-servers 8.8.8.8; |
| 14:38.59 | Skilz | Whats the command to allow port 22 on my firewall? |
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| 14:39.10 | Shadow` | iptables |
| 14:39.12 | Skilz | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:39.13 | somiaj | Skilz: by default debian doesn't have a firewall. |
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| 14:39.29 | Skilz | somiaj: Doesn't it have iptables? |
| 14:39.29 | somiaj | Skilz: could it be your router or some other firewall outside the actual os. |
| 14:39.38 | Skilz | no |
| 14:39.48 | sKeiths | frikinz, excellent that worked, actually used the prepend line. but working now. |
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| 14:39.50 | somiaj | Skilz: iptables isn't a default package, and even if it is installed there is no default firewall setup for it. |
| 14:39.50 | Shadow` | is it outside the LAN? |
| 14:40.04 | Shadow` | iptables is a default package, comes with cd1 |
| 14:40.26 | SiDz | sKeiths cd /etc/dhcp/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/ ; nano nodnsupdate |
| 14:40.29 | clod89_ | Brigo: i'm looking into that link seems to be the same problem |
| 14:40.37 | Shadow` | setup a new debian server last week, it comes with iptables and it only allows LAN ip's through it by default |
| 14:40.38 | somiaj | hmm, I guess it is an important package. I just rember in the past I had to install it from a base install. But the package does not contain a default firewall, just vies you the tools to design your own. |
| 14:40.54 | Brigo | clod89_: i am sorry :-/ |
| 14:41.02 | SiDz | http://pastebin.com/cDzJzREY |
| 14:41.12 | SiDz | chmod nodnsupdate +x |
| 14:41.17 | SiDz | chmod +x * |
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| 14:42.16 | sKeiths | sidz: /etc/dhcp/dhcleint.conf had the setting i needed. |
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| 14:42.51 | SiDz | i wasnt able to do it by the .conf |
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| 14:43.07 | fellipe | hi, I've set up ssmtp MTA but the sender is always root. so I have put in /etc/aliases the line: root: someone but it still sending as root... please help |
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| 14:43.16 | SiDz | it was always updating my resolv.conf |
| 14:43.17 | Shinobi | How often does debian update the UTC time? My server is 5 min behind. |
| 14:43.56 | abrotman | Debian doesn't control the UTC time .. do you ahve 'ntp' installed ? |
| 14:43.59 | Brigo | Shinobi: by default never, i think. |
| 14:44.03 | clod89_ | Brigo: i'm not used to work with yaboot, i modify yaboot.conf to append some lines to the kernel but it doesn't seem to make any difference |
| 14:44.05 | somiaj | Shinobi: have you installed a package like ntpd to update the time for you? or did you just update it once and then it has driffted due to your hardware clock? |
| 14:44.26 | Brigo | clod89_: i dont know who is yaboot. |
| 14:44.51 | Brigo | clod89_: a boot manager, may be? |
| 14:44.52 | Shinobi | Yup. I just set it on install and it drifted. I thought it updated off a time server automatically. |
| 14:44.56 | Shinobi | my bad |
| 14:45.11 | Shinobi | ntpd... I'll install that |
| 14:45.18 | abrotman | Shinobi: ntp is already installed ? |
| 14:45.38 | abrotman | the package is 'ntp' not 'ntpd' |
| 14:45.51 | clod89_ | Brigo: yep, it does what grub does for x86 on macppc |
| 14:46.02 | abrotman | ugh .. ppc .. |
| 14:46.24 | tempspace | So, I just took over administering for a box that had squeeze repositories…and they also added testing…I removed the testing repository and did an apt-get update, but I'm trying to install a package that installs fine on squeeze (collectd), but it keeps not installing while complaining about dependencies that won't be installed…any suggestions for tracking down the issue so I can get this package installed? |
| 14:47.04 | Brigo | clod89_: new for me :-) |
| 14:47.13 | somiaj | tempspace: you may have to figure out which packages were updated to testing and manually downgrade them. with aptitude search you may be able to figure that out. |
| 14:47.52 | Brigo | Shinobi: there are three packages, ntp,ntpdate and ntpd. Ntpd was the better for me. |
| 14:48.47 | Shinobi | I just installed ntp and it started ntpd. What are the other packages for? |
| 14:49.01 | Shinobi | I just want to update of NIST daily or weekly. |
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| 14:49.21 | Brigo | Shinobi: apt-cache show ntpdate |
| 14:49.31 | somiaj | tempspace: aptitude search ~i~Astable -- that will find all installed packages that are in the stable repo, trying to find a way to say not from the stable repo |
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| 14:50.35 | Zitter | is there a pkg to use debian as IPCop? |
| 14:50.40 | frikinz | there's the lazy way: apt-show-versions |
| 14:50.55 | Brigo | Shinobi: i mind openntpd |
| 14:50.58 | Shinobi | apt-cache.... nice! |
| 14:51.17 | Brigo | Shinobi: it is what i use :-) |
| 14:51.46 | tempspace | can't install apt-show-versions ;) |
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| 14:52.57 | ksuhku | Shinobi, you might want to use rdate if you don't need the daemon |
| 14:53.19 | tempspace | I think I got it…it's perl |
| 14:53.36 | Shinobi | ksuhku: What's the benifit? Less CPU? |
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| 14:53.58 | ksuhku | Shinobi, yeah, it's a fire and forget kinda deal |
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| 14:54.37 | Brigo | Shinobi: rdate or ntpdate only need to configure cron. |
| 14:55.22 | ksuhku | Shinobi, if your clock drifts wildly, could be a sign of a CMOS battery needing replacement soon |
| 14:55.26 | Shinobi | yeah, that sounds better. What does the daemon do, ensure a successful update? |
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| 14:55.41 | jhutchins_wk | The benefit that ntpd gives you is drift compensation - learning how your clock trends and adjusting for it automatically. |
| 14:55.47 | Shinobi | No it's 5 min in 5 years. Right within spec. |
| 14:55.48 | somiaj | tempspace: seems like "aptitude search ~i?not(~Astable)" should find all installed packages on your system that are not from the stable repo. |
| 14:55.58 | somiaj | though I had to escape the () due to bash trying to intrupit them |
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| 14:56.15 | Brigo | Shinobi: and let other host syc whit your one. |
| 14:56.56 | Shinobi | Brigo: What does that daemon do that ntpdate doesn't? |
| 14:57.44 | Brigo | sync automaticly the clock, for example. |
| 14:58.01 | Shinobi | Brigo: Doesn't ntp date to that? |
| 14:58.13 | Shinobi | Or do I have to config cron to use ntpdate? |
| 14:58.24 | Brigo | Shinobi: no, it need some configuration work. |
| 14:58.27 | ksuhku | correct |
| 14:58.39 | Brigo | Shinobi: ntpdate needs cron, exactly, and rdate too. |
| 14:59.14 | boudiccas | use ntp its far simpler and easier to use# |
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| 15:09.16 | Shinobi | Anyone know why gtk-gnash is eating lots of cpu. I only have a few webpages open. |
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| 15:11.31 | jelly | Shinobi: the short answer includes an expletive. |
| 15:14.09 | gabedain | I'm having a problem with some GUI programs (so far Firefox and Deluge): most text (menus, buttons) is too small to read, about 2 pixels maximum. It happened after the latest apt-get dist-upgrade, and haven't found anything online about it. Any ideas what it could be? |
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| 15:16.56 | Brigo | gabedain: may be gnome configuration? or kde ... |
| 15:17.09 | gabedain | Brigo: not using either |
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| 15:17.59 | cassio | gabedain, probably your DPI font configuration |
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| 15:20.22 | Brigo | gabedain: lxde or anything who can configure fonts ? |
| 15:20.43 | gabedain | Brigo: i3, looking into DPI now |
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| 15:24.02 | molqr | hey all! trying to install debian 6 on a system but the installer keeps getting stuck the partitioning stage ... scanning disks at 50% and then nothing happens. am using the netinstall image on a usb stick that i made bootable using unetbootin |
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| 15:24.33 | gabedain | cassio: specified DPI in .xserverrc and that seems to have solved it. Thanks. |
| 15:24.54 | cassio | gabedain, you're welcome |
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| 15:24.56 | ksk | molqr: unetbootin is known to produce errors. please see |
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| 15:25.48 | molqr | ksk: can i dd the image on to the usb then? |
| 15:26.07 | ksk | yes, im actually looking for the bot-trigger on that topic ;) |
| 15:26.22 | ksk | you can just "cat debian.iso > /dev/sdX" |
| 15:26.40 | molqr | ksk: great :) will try that. thanks. |
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| 15:27.31 | babilen | !tell molqr -about usb install |
| 15:27.32 | jhutchins_wk | molqr: cat is the recommended method. |
| 15:27.53 | molqr | babilen: many thanks. |
| 15:28.00 | jhutchins_wk | molqr: You should check the md5sum of the image you're using, and possibly run a disk check through something like a live cd. |
| 15:28.18 | pzn | how to kill a PID? already tried "kill -9", but it persists in pid list... process is in "disk sleep" status for some days. how can I kill it? |
| 15:28.29 | jhutchins_wk | molqr: You might also find error messages on consoles 1-4 when it appears to hang. How big a disk? |
| 15:28.41 | ChrisH | pzn: if the state is D ... reboot is the only way |
| 15:28.59 | molqr | jhutchins_wk: 40gb. its an old ide disk |
| 15:29.14 | boudiccas | pzn: sudo top, then k pid |
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| 15:29.49 | molqr | i m experiencing similar problems as mentioned here http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=627163 |
| 15:29.53 | ChrisH | pzn: can you pastebin the ps -efl containing your process? |
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| 15:30.31 | jhutchins_wk | molqr: I would definitely run an independent disk check, check the s.m.a.r.t. info as well. |
| 15:30.49 | molqr | jhutchins_wk: i see :( |
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| 15:34.05 | jhutchins_wk | molqr: That does look convincingly like a bug in the installer. Have you tried expert install with manual partitioning? |
| 15:34.13 | clod89_ | Brigo: i've managed to boot (with non persistent parameters, i still have to figure out yaboot) and get hw rendering to work, problem is the colors are all wrong, green is blue, white is yellow and so on ahaha |
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| 15:36.15 | molqr | jhutchins_wk: even in the expert install stage it hangs at the partitioning stage |
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| 15:38.52 | SkAzZ | Quick question: Does Debian Squeeze still use rc*.d to startup scripts or does it use init.d/.depend.* ? |
| 15:39.04 | Brigo | clod89_: It is a dificult problem ... |
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| 15:39.16 | Brigo | SkAzZ: both? |
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| 15:39.39 | hajosattila | hi all |
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| 15:40.04 | SkAzZ | Brigo: So I have to modify init.d/.depend.* and the rc*.d entries? |
| 15:40.38 | Brigo | SkAzZ: sorry, i am mistake, i don't know it. |
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| 15:40.44 | sney | !tell SkAzZ about insserv |
| 15:41.02 | SkAzZ | I am using GFS tools, but its trying to mount itself before DRBD starts, I want to change the order so that gfs starts after drbd |
| 15:41.42 | sney | it's dependency based so make it so gfs depends on drbd to start |
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| 15:42.10 | Sevet | you don't update .depend.*, update-rc.d etc do that for you |
| 15:46.31 | ksuhku | molqr, what is on the disk? do you want to save something or use all for debian? |
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| 15:48.11 | molqr | ksuhku: all for debian. sad to report that it had a windoze install |
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| 15:49.17 | ksuhku | molqr, you could try clearing away the existing partitions with the latest http://www.gparted.org/livecd.php |
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| 15:49.37 | ksuhku | sometimes the partitioner chokes |
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| 15:51.38 | pmo_ | any1 using ATEN US221 (usb switch) |
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| 15:52.27 | molqr | ksuhku: what if during the install i go to the second console and user fdisk to create partitions and then mkfs to format it? don't want to download gparted just for this purpose |
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| 15:53.34 | ksuhku | molqr, could work. gparted could be useful because of newer versions of software though |
| 15:53.46 | molqr | ksuhku: i see. thanks. |
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| 15:56.08 | pzn | ChrisH, weird... did "reboot" command 3 times... I have 3 PIDs of "shutdown -r" running in "disk sleep"... and I also can't kill the shutdown command too |
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| 15:57.10 | boudiccas | pzn: tried sudo top like i suggested earlier? |
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| 15:58.22 | pzn | http://pastebin.com/X3dREWML |
| 15:58.33 | pzn | boudiccas, yes, tried it without success |
| 15:58.56 | pzn | processo "shutdown" is in "disk sleep" state... how to solve this? http://pastebin.com/X3dREWML |
| 15:59.43 | stonerfish | why do you have cron trying to reboot every minute |
| 15:59.48 | ChrisH | pzn: these process are in state D ... If init 6 does not work, you need to hard reset the box. |
| 15:59.59 | ChrisH | stonerfish: that idea will make it even worse |
| 16:00.26 | stonerfish | Not my idea. Read his pastebin |
| 16:00.33 | stonerfish | I asked "why" |
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| 16:01.05 | jelly-home | hard reset, or sysrq |
| 16:01.12 | ChrisH | pzn: you can find on which disk/fs these process are hanging but pressing reset will be the quickest and fasted way |
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| 16:02.13 | ChrisH | stonerfish: sorry... I only checked the D state, as this was all I wanted to see.... I assume a disk is broken or an NFS mount is hanging or ... |
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| 16:03.02 | stonerfish | I hope pzn removes the reboot from his crontab before he hard reboots |
| 16:03.20 | ChrisH | stonerfish: well otherwise he will learn it the hard way |
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| 16:04.34 | ksuhku | prefers the hard way |
| 16:05.09 | pzn | ChrisH, machine is about 100miles away, in a datacenter with no human available for me... no way to press reset button. |
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| 16:06.22 | specing | pzn: employ robots, then! |
| 16:06.41 | ChrisH | pzn: well... no LOM, remote power cyle option? ... anyhow first stop cron adding more hanging/block processes. |
| 16:07.22 | ChrisH | pzn: the DC I know have remote-hands onsite |
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| 16:08.33 | ChrisH | If its an important system you might consider changing the DC or replace the HW with one having a LOM. |
| 16:09.01 | pzn | ChrisH, already stopped cron. I have about 10 shutdowns in progress... all of them "disk sleep" and all of them don't kill with "kill -9" too... I think I may have hardware problems... what do you think? I have one important process with disk sleep and does not kill with kill -9... |
| 16:09.11 | ksuhku | pzn, cat /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq |
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| 16:10.30 | ksuhku | ie. is sysrq allowed? |
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| 16:10.37 | ChrisH | pzn: HW issues might be visible in messages. and yes no process in state D gets the kill signal as the process is stuck in kernel |
| 16:11.08 | jhutchins_wk | pzn: You can't really diagnose this for sure. Something is failing to die when shutdown tries to kill it. Once you've resolved that you can see what might be causing it. What's hung in D besides shutdown? |
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| 16:11.51 | jhutchins_wk | pzn: you can run sync to flush your disk buffers then just kill the power. |
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| 16:13.02 | ksuhku | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Alternate_ways_to_invoke_Magic_SysRq |
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| 16:20.43 | ksuhku | wonders if pzn reached state D |
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| 16:36.07 | ganz | hi |
| 16:36.07 | staufinc | how do I install the latest open source radeon drivers on debian wheezy? i'm using a radeon hd6870 and usually the open source radeon driver works fine, but on wheezy, xrandr only reports one display and glxinfo shows the software renderer. |
| 16:36.07 | ganz | i've a problem trying to install debian testing on my notebook |
| 16:36.07 | ganz | the installer freezes just after the configuration of users |
| 16:36.07 | ganz | watching syslog i've found this error: mdadm blocked more than 120 seconds |
| 16:36.07 | ganz | any ideas on how to resolve this problem? |
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| 16:38.11 | valentin | Hi. I need help installing debian wheezy. Instalation hangs at detecting network hardware or something like that. |
| 16:38.36 | staufinc | select no |
| 16:39.37 | valentin | There's nothing to select... it just hangs there. If I press ctrl+c it skips but then I get stuck at detecting partitions. |
| 16:40.12 | ganz | valentin: i've the very same problem :( |
| 16:40.13 | staufinc | oh. mine said it needed nonfree drivers for my ethernet adapter, but i just said no and it continued. |
| 16:40.51 | valentin | Is there a solution to this? are is there another way for me to install wheezy? |
| 16:41.01 | valentin | *or |
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| 16:41.46 | Bernat | valentin: you can install squeeze then upgrade to wheezy |
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| 16:42.27 | valentin | by changing repositories? |
| 16:42.36 | pzn | ksuhku, ChrisH , jhutchins_wk: after some phone calls, I managed for someone go to the machine this afternoon and issue a powerdown/powerup. hopefully it will return back to live ok after that |
| 16:42.40 | Bernat | yes |
| 16:43.01 | valentin | what about gnome and xfce? |
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| 16:43.53 | valentin | I dont want to have a huge mess of programs to remove to get vanila wheezy experience |
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| 16:44.54 | ksuhku | the vanilla wheezy experience is a huge mess :) |
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| 16:46.04 | nkuttler | what's vanilla wheezy? init=/bin/sh ? |
| 16:46.05 | thomaschaaf | Is there an alternative to hostapd to create an unencrypted wifi network? |
| 16:46.17 | jhutchins_wk | ganz: The testing installer is for testing the installer, not for installing testing. |
| 16:46.21 | valentin | how's debian on laptops? Do i need a lot of tinkering or is it out-of-a-box experience? |
| 16:46.30 | ksuhku | it's like chocolate wheezy bleached |
| 16:46.30 | pzn | jhutchins_wk, I tried "sync", but sync also stays "disk sleep" for a few minutes... I have a cifs/smb remote filesystem that lost communication, was umounted by a timeout and remounted... "mount" and "df -h" shows it OK. could that be the cause of disk sleep? |
| 16:46.36 | nkuttler | thomaschaaf: just use iwconfig? |
| 16:46.40 | jhutchins_wk | If you want to work on testing, install stable and "upgrade". |
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| 16:46.48 | valentin | vanilla means that it's like a fresh install |
| 16:46.48 | thomaschaaf | nkuttler: let me google a tutorial :) |
| 16:46.53 | sKeiths | SiDz: thanks. your method was needed in the end. |
| 16:47.04 | jhutchins_wk | pzn: Chances are you have a hardware problem with the drive. |
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| 16:47.39 | jhutchins_wk | pzn: It will probably run a disk check on reboot, which will probably not complete. |
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| 16:48.30 | pzn | jhutchins_wk, disk is software raid1 of 2 disks. "dmesg" shows no message for sda, sdb or md0. proc/mdstat is ok |
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| 16:49.35 | jhutchins_wk | pzn: Very strange. |
| 16:50.07 | Guest73793 | when I use iceweasel, my computer is very slow and the system monitor shows that firefox-bin process takes 100 % of CPU. Even when I disconnect from internet, the gnome-system-monitor process takes up to 50 % of CPU. How should i troubleshoot the problem? |
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| 16:51.15 | ganz | jhutchins_wk: i want to install debian wheezy (testing) so i've downloaded the weekly builds from the site |
| 16:51.16 | ganz | what's wrong with this? |
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| 16:53.19 | Bernat | ganz: the installer might have bugs |
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| 16:53.51 | Sevet | ganz: they're weekly builds of wheezy debian installer (currently beta) |
| 16:53.52 | Sevet | if you're having problems report a bug, and try installing squeeze then dist-upgrade which'll get you a working wheezy system bypassing any d-i issues |
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| 16:55.49 | ganz | i don't want to spend all the day to upgrade from squeeze to wheezy... |
| 16:55.50 | ganz | anyway the problem seems to be related to mdadm not to the installer |
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| 16:56.15 | cali | is not dictionaries-common fucked up in testing? |
| 16:56.17 | Bernat | ganz: if you do a basic install upgrading is fast and easy |
| 16:56.33 | Bernat | ganz: anyway, you're free to try what you want |
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| 16:56.56 | thomaschaaf | nkuttler: I have 3 wireless cards and all of them give me #iwconfig wlan0 mode master => Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) : SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument. any idea? |
| 16:57.45 | sKeiths | Guest73793, here is a step you could try. See if problem exist when using iceweasel safe mode. |
| 16:58.44 | ganz | Sevet, Bernat: ok, thanks for the help :) |
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| 16:59.05 | nkuttler | thomaschaaf: the card doesn't support master mode? but i don't know much about wireless |
| 16:59.29 | thomaschaaf | okay :( I guess but hostapd somehow makes it work |
| 16:59.39 | thomaschaaf | I just have an issue with one device :( |
| 16:59.45 | thomaschaaf | all others seem to work |
| 16:59.49 | nkuttler | oh, and no idea if a simple iwconfig will do for three cards, never done such a thing |
| 16:59.50 | Sevet | ganz: it's mdadm within the installer, so it's probably still an issue in the installer (perhaps with the mdadm config it creates). until d-i is finished dist-upgrade from stable is still the best way to get testing |
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| 17:00.55 | staufinc | how do I install the latest open source radeon drivers on debian wheezy? i'm using a radeon hd6870 and usually the open source radeon driver works fine, but on wheezy, xrandr only reports one display and glxinfo shows the software renderer. |
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| 17:02.23 | Guest73793 | sKeiths, how do I go to safe mode? |
| 17:03.41 | pzn | if "sync" command stays disk sleep forever, can I try the "echo s > /proc/sysrq-trigger" ? any chances to lock the machine with that "echo" ? |
| 17:04.09 | sKeiths | Guest73793, http://wiki.debian.org/Iceweasel see troubleshooting section for how to use safe mode |
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| 17:05.54 | ksk | hey |
| 17:06.30 | webbl | how can i check if vim is built with python support |
| 17:06.31 | ksk | what was the name of the tool you could install a debian from a running system? (not debootstrap, more like the installer, a friend once told me about that..) |
| 17:06.37 | Guest73793 | sKeiths, even if I am not using iceweasel, the gnome-system -monitor process goes to 70% CPU. Is it normal? |
| 17:07.07 | webbl | or is there any vim plugin similar to autotag but need not python support? |
| 17:07.47 | webbl | wubi |
| 17:07.50 | webbl | ? |
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| 17:08.26 | ksk | wubi seems to be the ubuntu installer you call from windows, but thx^^ |
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| 17:10.01 | webbl | ok. exec :ver tells that -python -python3 |
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| 17:10.20 | webbl | no python support. |
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| 17:30.47 | CharlieSu | Anyone familiar w/ using a Preseed file? I'm doing this at the end of my preseed file and Chef gets installed correctly, but I'm not getting the 'integrity.serial' file saving. Any ideas why? https://gist.github.com/8b93792b59a62814ebd5 |
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| 17:45.12 | tremon | CharlieSu: i/o redirection with environment-modifying executables never does what you want it to do |
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| 17:45.25 | tremon | that applies equally to sudo, chroot and in-target |
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| 17:46.16 | CharlieSu | tremon: i'm going to try 'cp /etc/hostname /etc/integrity.serial' |
| 17:46.23 | CharlieSu | tremon: do you think that will work? |
| 17:46.51 | tremon | probably, if hostname is populated by then (and you use in-target cp) |
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| 17:47.12 | CharlieSu | tremon: thanks.. i'm currently doing the install.. i'll know shortly.. |
| 17:48.14 | Shinobi | Is VMware a PITA to set up in Debian? |
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| 17:53.58 | frenck | ciao |
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| 17:54.14 | frenck | !list |
| 17:54.16 | dpkg | frenck: Debian è un sistema operativo composto di software libero non quella gratis. Vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per sapere di più. |
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| 17:58.10 | xgl | hi all |
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| 18:03.27 | Leryan | hi. Does anyone know if it's possible to disable LVM2 and fallback to a classic disk management ? |
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| 18:06.01 | tremon | Leryan: on a running system? |
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| 18:06.30 | Leryan | tremon: not necessarely, I can boot on a LiveCD |
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| 18:07.44 | Leryan | tremon: but, if possible, on a running system yes |
| 18:07.55 | Leryan | why not** |
| 18:09.10 | pmo_ | Leryan, possible for sure |
| 18:09.24 | pmo_ | Leryan, but easy, depends if you made backup |
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| 18:10.13 | Leryan | pmo_: hum ? I'll make a backup before doing anything :-° better to keep datas in security ^^' |
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| 18:11.44 | pmo_ | Leryan, boot from cd or whatever other regular partition you may have, remove lvm, repartition, reinstall from backup |
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| 18:14.17 | pmo_ | Leryan, remove all volumes, volume group and physical device from lvm.. then make file systems on partitions.. and restore your soft |
| 18:14.35 | Leryan | pmo_: a backup ? what kind of backup ? by hand or with an LVM tool ? |
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| 18:15.02 | pmo_ | Leryan, backup of all your data |
| 18:15.18 | Leryan | pmo_: a complete reinstallation then ? |
| 18:15.57 | pmo_ | Leryan, if all is managed by lvm on your computer.. likely |
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| 18:16.14 | pmo_ | Leryan, look at pvs.. and see which partition are concerned |
| 18:16.28 | pmo_ | and df.. |
| 18:16.31 | tremon | Leryan: you can't move a live system off of lvm, a backup, repartition, restore would probably be fastest |
| 18:17.07 | Leryan | Ok, thank you all ^^ |
| 18:17.15 | tremon | be sure to re-check your fstab and grub before trying to boot it (because of changing uuid's if you do a filesystem-level backup) |
| 18:17.35 | pmo_ | Leryan, if root/boot partition is not on lvm and you have spare space, you could have the chance not to have to do it offline |
| 18:17.49 | Leryan | All is under LVM |
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| 18:18.29 | pmo_ | Leryan, what says df.. root on lvm too.. then the only thing to do.. is backup / reinstall / restore |
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| 18:18.48 | Leryan | yep, i'll do that |
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| 18:19.01 | pmo_ | Leryan, why do you want to remove lvm, if i may ask ? |
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| 18:21.00 | Leryan | pmo_: because I don't need everything proposed by LVM (like mirros ect...) and because, if I want to resize partitions, I must do both LVM and classic way to be ok |
| 18:21.06 | Leryan | So, LVM is useless for me |
| 18:21.07 | Leryan | ;) |
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| 18:36.31 | CharlieSu | tremon: 'cp' worked well.. thanks bud! |
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| 18:45.32 | BetaPinky | is there any working debian for cellphones? |
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| 18:45.58 | BetaPinky | http://wiki.debian.org/Mobile |
| 18:46.40 | wjtaylor | I installed my webcam driver and see a /dev/video0 entry, but gstreamer gives errors. Perms are 660 root video and I belong to the video group. What can I do to troubleshoot? |
| 18:46.51 | GNU\colossus | is there no xlock in suqeeze? |
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| 18:51.44 | jordanm | GNU\colossus: IIRC, there was some major flaw with xlock that prompted its removal |
| 18:52.58 | jordanm | GNU\colossus: oh, no, its called xlockmore, and looks like the major flaw is still there: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=473400 |
| 18:53.45 | boudiccas | GNU\colossus: but you can install a utility programme that includes 'slock', which operates very well under gnome 2 and also xfce on wheezy. i cant remember the programmes name, but you can find it ieasily in synaptic by searching for 'slock' |
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| 18:53.58 | GNU\colossus | boudiccas, yup, I figured |
| 18:54.00 | jordanm | ,file bin/slock |
| 18:54.05 | judd | Search for bin/slock in squeeze/i386: suckless-tools: usr/bin/slock |
| 18:54.08 | GNU\colossus | I guess I'll try the suckless tools |
| 18:54.37 | GNU\colossus | I just wondered that xflock4 (xfce's X11 session locking program) doesn't run without an "xlock" binary on the system |
| 18:54.41 | GNU\colossus | which is kind of a letdown |
| 18:55.07 | boudiccas | GNU\colossus: i use slock on xfce and its very good# |
| 18:55.25 | GNU\colossus | boudiccas, good to hear, will install it then :) |
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| 19:00.03 | GNU\colossus | ok, I'm seetling for i3lock instead |
| 19:00.10 | GNU\colossus | that at least is documented by a manpage |
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| 19:04.03 | dschoepe | What could be the cause if an i3-3110M processor is falsely reported as an i7-2760QM by cpufreq? And could that cause weird slowdown when AC is attached? |
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| 19:04.55 | Jeeves | I just did a dist upgrade on my server, and now I get this http://pastebin.ca/2199803, how do I fix it? |
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| 19:14.45 | jasonfr | i have project and indexer plugin installed. now project plugin looks working (`vim +Project` and then in vim type \c to load project). |
| 19:15.22 | jasonfr | and i've generated tag file by `ctags -R -f.tags` |
| 19:15.35 | jasonfr | how can project read that tags? |
| 19:15.46 | jasonfr | and auto-update functions? |
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| 19:37.35 | miggs | hello. what do i miss? after i kill urxvtd daemon with 'killall urxvtd' i still get a valid pid running 'pidof urxvtd'.. |
| 19:37.41 | rawburt | http://pastebin.com/KHhSEA5j <- this is from a fresh install of MySQL on Debian Wheezy. I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around why two of the root accounts have these proxy grants (which I'm unclear on their purposes) and why I have two blank users. can someone fill in the gaps? |
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| 19:38.47 | wjtaylor | Can someone help me get my mic and line-in working. I just read a very disturbing article of linux sound, and have no idea what is going on. |
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| 19:41.52 | dawud | miggs: ps aux | grep urxvtd |
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| 19:43.29 | miggs | dawud: [urxvtd] <defunct> and has pid |
| 19:43.39 | miggs | it's a zombie..? |
| 19:43.58 | Dan39 | ZOOMBBIEEE OH NO |
| 19:44.04 | Dan39 | killall -9? :P |
| 19:44.39 | miggs | Dan39: i tried that too |
| 19:44.45 | Dan39 | uh oh |
| 19:45.06 | dawud | miggs: you can't kill a defunct process. reboot. |
| 19:45.16 | Dan39 | D; |
| 19:45.51 | miggs | dawud: i'm writing a script which should tell if a process is running or not.. |
| 19:46.14 | dawud | miggs: there are tools for that already |
| 19:46.19 | miggs | like? |
| 19:46.23 | dawud | ps |
| 19:46.45 | acemi | pgrep |
| 19:47.27 | miggs | pgreg still returns a pid |
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| 19:49.02 | GNU\colossus | how you plan on identifying the process? by name/proctitle? |
| 19:49.04 | GNU\colossus | or by pid? |
| 19:49.15 | GNU\colossus | (the former is ALWAYS potentially unreliable) |
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| 19:49.57 | miggs | GNU\colossus: by name |
| 19:50.07 | GNU\colossus | pgrep it is then. |
| 19:50.28 | miggs | i couldn't identify it by pid since that's given by the kernel |
| 19:50.55 | miggs | pgrep doesn't know the difference between zobies and living processes |
| 19:51.15 | GNU\colossus | yeah, so? it maps process names and command lines to PID. |
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| 19:51.23 | GNU\colossus | which you can use to determine state |
| 19:52.01 | miggs | using? |
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| 19:56.00 | Kevin` | is grub-install the only way to install grub2? it's an insane pain if you have to actually use it, since there seems to be no way to override the bios drive autodetection |
| 19:56.05 | GNU\colossus | miggs, whatever you want. parse ps -p <pid>, or read procfs directly. |
| 19:56.32 | miggs | i got it. thanks GNU\colossus |
| 19:58.12 | dawud | I've configured an anonymous bridge (no IP) with just one iface (eth1) for my VMs to use. do I need an static rule to forward traffic from br0 to eth0 (this iface has an IP) or the bridge should be using the default gw regardless? |
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| 20:17.23 | SolarisB1y | can anyone point me to documentation on using expert-recipes for partitioning in preseed? |
| 20:17.41 | SolarisB1y | i have failed to find more specific info on that topic but have found lots on preseeding in general |
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| 20:19.56 | dawud | SolarisB1y: it was difficult for me too, in fact, I didn't find but scattered pieces on the web, nothing really comprenhensive |
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| 20:20.17 | dawud | SolarisB1y: but.... there is some info around |
| 20:20.20 | pmo_ | what do you mean by preseed ? |
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| 20:20.43 | SolarisB1y | dawud: thanks a lot for the confirm - i have existing entries that work in my preseed however i was looking to add some more but just had some doughts about the values |
| 20:20.47 | SolarisB1y | but its all good thanks again |
| 20:20.53 | dawud | pmo_: preseeding is a way of automating a Debian installation, similar to rhel kickstart |
| 20:21.02 | SolarisB1y | or solaris jumpstart |
| 20:21.23 | pmo_ | dawud, ta |
| 20:21.27 | dawud | np |
| 20:21.49 | ompaul | SolarisB1y: I take it you did CTRL F and partitioning on this file? http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/example-preseed.txt |
| 20:22.17 | SolarisB1y | ompaul: no |
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| 20:22.25 | SolarisB1y | i have a large one that works thats my template |
| 20:22.30 | SolarisB1y | i just need to add 2 more lvm volumes |
| 20:22.39 | ompaul | SolarisB1y: it is slightly verbose |
| 20:22.47 | SolarisB1y | ompaul: cool ill check it out |
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| 20:23.37 | SolarisB1y | 40 50 100 ext3 || i just actually wanted to know (or confirm) what these values are for example - they never appear to explain that specifically =) |
| 20:23.52 | SolarisB1y | i know one is min and one is max and think another is priority? not sure at all |
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| 20:25.04 | dawud | SolarisB1y: I wrote this one, with great help from folks here: http://paste.debian.net/186993 |
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| 20:25.29 | dawud | SolarisB1y: zless /usr/share/doc/debian-installer/devel/partman-auto-recipe.txt.gz |
| 20:25.40 | dawud | SolarisB1y: there's an explanation t that IIRC |
| 20:26.15 | SolarisB1y | thank you |
| 20:26.24 | SolarisB1y | i assume i need to install deb installer or its doc package |
| 20:26.36 | dawud | SolarisB1y: <limits>::=<minimal size>_<priority>_<maximal size>_<parted fs> |
| 20:26.59 | SolarisB1y | dawud: bless you kind sir |
| 20:27.04 | dawud | SolarisB1y: apt-file search says debian-installer |
| 20:27.05 | SolarisB1y | or mam |
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| 20:27.23 | dawud | SolarisB1y: :) none, pal is fine |
| 20:27.30 | ompaul | SolarisB1y: use ext4 |
| 20:27.36 | SolarisB1y | i will |
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| 20:27.43 | SolarisB1y | that was something i copy/pasted from |
| 20:27.57 | SolarisB1y | ompaul: unless ofcourse you dont want journaled writes on the volume right? |
| 20:28.11 | ompaul | SolarisB1y: then ext2 |
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| 20:28.14 | SolarisB1y | cool |
| 20:28.22 | ompaul | but that would be crazy unless it's flash |
| 20:28.25 | SolarisB1y | i was thinking of swapping a squid partition to ext3 too |
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| 20:28.38 | SolarisB1y | ompaul: even if it were on its own spindles? |
| 20:28.40 | ompaul | 4 is much faster |
| 20:28.41 | SolarisB1y | eg seperate drive? |
| 20:28.46 | SolarisB1y | ompaul: kk |
| 20:29.05 | ompaul | uses 15k drives |
| 20:29.09 | ompaul | some of the time |
| 20:29.20 | SolarisB1y | presently its a ssd we install on the systems but im pushing to get a seperate one installed for squid |
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| 20:30.02 | ompaul | you want spinning metal for squid |
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| 20:30.11 | ompaul | ssd for that is a less than clever idea |
| 20:30.18 | SolarisB1y | why? |
| 20:30.48 | ompaul | research dear boy research - what does squid do - what does that involve - what is ssd bad for |
| 20:31.01 | SolarisB1y | squid can use multiple fs types though |
| 20:31.07 | SolarisB1y | so if your not using the folder structure then what? |
| 20:31.10 | ompaul | head desks |
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| 20:31.29 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 20:31.30 | SolarisB1y | internal cache file types rather |
| 20:31.33 | ompaul | what has the fs type to do with ssd vs not ssd |
| 20:31.37 | lenswipe | can someone tell me how to print a .xps file? |
| 20:31.40 | pmo_ | ompaul, 15k are noisy ? |
| 20:31.41 | SolarisB1y | i corrected that ompaul |
| 20:31.44 | ompaul | pmo_: no |
| 20:31.53 | lenswipe | its a page capture from "Microsoft XPS Document Writer" |
| 20:31.57 | lenswipe | i want to print it out on debian |
| 20:32.03 | lenswipe | or if i could convert it to a PDF that would work too |
| 20:32.12 | agike | Hi, any suggestions in getting urls in icedove & thunderbrowse on a newly installed 6.0.5 to work ? |
| 20:33.21 | lenswipe | ...nevermind |
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| 20:34.27 | agike | any suggestions in getting urls in icedove & thunderbrowse on a newly installed 6.0.5 to work ? |
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| 20:35.35 | SolarisB1y | ok i see the why nots but they seem to always depend on the type of ssd/controller etc |
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| 20:36.07 | SolarisB1y | ill look into it ofcourse before swapping but it still sounds reasonably doable considering its running on ssd now but also on teh same controller as all other os writes and reads |
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| 20:38.23 | jhutchins | I presume that if I installed kde-full it's going to start the gui when I reboot. How do I prevent that? |
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| 20:39.46 | jhutchins | I guess installing rcconf and turning off kdm will do it. |
| 20:40.59 | wjtaylor | Why are my capture devices always muted in sound recorder |
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| 20:42.56 | Brigo | jhulst: or desintalling kdm |
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| 20:47.11 | pzn | some hours ago I posted a message about PIDs that are in "disk sleep" for days... machine is miles away... tought I could find someone today to go to the machine and reset it, but couldn't... kill -9 does not kill the process... "sync" stays in "disk sleep" forever, "reboot" and "shutdown" also try internally a sync and stay disk sleep forever. how to kill a process in disk sleep state? how to search for "mount points" that were remote and due to some |
| 20:47.11 | pzn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:48.33 | pzn | all seems to be related to a CIFS remote mount that were "lost" due to network package lost. many messages "CIFS VFS: close with pending writes" in dmesg |
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| 20:52.36 | Jarvis | it appears the ntp maintenance window has caused the 0.debian.pool.ntp.org etc addresses to vanish |
| 20:52.42 | pbryan | Joining #debian-next requires an invitation? |
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| 20:53.12 | pbryan | Can anyone invite me? |
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| 20:53.53 | Brigo | what is debian-next? |
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| 20:54.16 | pbryan | Brigo: Presumably where I can talk about sid/wheezy. |
| 20:54.16 | ompaul | pbryan: it is on oftc - not here |
| 20:54.26 | pbryan | ompaul: Doh, thanks. |
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| 20:54.37 | Giupino | pbryan: i'm in without invitation |
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| 20:55.02 | ompaul | Giupino: not on freenode ... |
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| 20:55.14 | Giupino | no is on OFTC |
| 20:55.30 | Giupino | i know from debian.org |
| 20:55.43 | Brigo | i am using sid from year ago, and all the time talk about sid ... and dont need debian-next :-D |
| 20:55.52 | Giupino | :D |
| 20:55.59 | Giupino | me to |
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| 20:57.36 | wjtaylor | Is the volume control in gnome Pulse Audio? |
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| 21:20.50 | wjtaylor | Would someone give me a sanity check? Will someone go to volume control and click the recording tab. Unmute any devices that are unmuted, close, and reopen and see if they are muted again. This would be a huge help to me! |
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| 21:21.41 | specing | wjtaylor: $ alsamixer |
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| 21:22.05 | wjtaylor | No, use the gnome volume control under Preferences |
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| 21:22.29 | wjtaylor | alsamixer, shows fine. My volume control does not. |
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| 21:36.15 | xevwork | I'm having trouble with apt - I've added a local directory as a repository and tried to give it a higher priority in /etc/apt/preferences, but 'apt-get update' is ignoring it. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1794663 |
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| 21:40.11 | abrotman | xevwork: you want #ubuntu, we don't support Ubuntu here |
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| 21:40.53 | RayZ | racism |
| 21:40.59 | RayZ | or distroism |
| 21:41.33 | xevwork | abrotman: I figured here was appropriate since it's an apt issue, not Ubuntu-specific. |
| 21:41.34 | abrotman | RayZ: if you don't like it, you can /part |
| 21:41.36 | xevwork | Sorry. |
| 21:41.53 | abrotman | xevwork: they've patched their apt, and we don't know what may or may not work anymore |
| 21:42.10 | xevwork | Understandable... |
| 21:42.14 | abrotman | Thank you. |
| 21:42.33 | xevwork | Have a good night (or day if you're around the world from me)! |
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| 21:42.44 | nsadmin | abrotman, do you think they patched the libs apt/dpkg uses? |
| 21:44.06 | abrotman | nsadmin: you tell me, thanks |
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| 21:44.49 | abrotman | i'd put money on it |
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| 21:45.43 | abrotman | regardless, it's sitll not supported here |
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| 21:47.54 | bassliner | hi there, can i keep debian from stopping a boot when a drive present in fstab is missing (give root password or type ctrl-d message while boot)? e.g. let it just boot if such a disk is not there? |
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| 21:48.43 | abrotman | sounds like your BIOS is probing in a different order, perhaps mount by UUID |
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| 21:49.00 | bassliner | no it is not, i just removed the drive. |
| 21:49.56 | bassliner | i mean i could just manually try to mount those disks via rc.local or something, but is there an fstab option to just keep cool if this disk is not there at all? |
| 21:52.08 | sviz | can i make pam support google-authenticator but then if the account isnt setup… or meets some critera have it fall back to local auth? |
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| 21:53.30 | nsadmin | I think you can do that... pam has an idea of what's "sufficient" and what's requred |
| 21:53.46 | nsadmin | check some pam scripts, check the docs |
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| 21:54.50 | sviz | yea been looking, but ill look some more |
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| 21:55.05 | sviz | sux that nx and the such totally break with 2 factor |
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| 21:57.23 | jhutchins | Redisvovering KDE4 - where can I set the volume for system sounds? |
| 21:57.32 | bassliner | ah got it |
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| 21:59.47 | wjtaylor | My computer is deaf. This sucks. Hundreds of $$ and I can't record sound. |
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| 22:00.42 | bassliner | wjtaylor: a computer has to be very expensive in order to record sound with it. |
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| 22:02.07 | wjtaylor | bassliner: I can't record through line in... Very annoying. |
| 22:02.23 | bassliner | wjtaylor: yea that's a common problem with alsa. |
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| 22:03.23 | wjtaylor | I'm not trying to sound like an ass. It's 2012. Is this a regression? |
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| 22:03.42 | bassliner | wjtaylor: i'm not trying to sound like an ass, but you're using linux. |
| 22:03.56 | wjtaylor | Do I really have to use a windows machine just to record from line in? |
| 22:04.03 | bassliner | no. |
| 22:04.16 | wjtaylor | no offense taken :) |
| 22:04.47 | wjtaylor | bassliner: do you know how to unmute the mic? |
| 22:04.50 | bassliner | dude i'm none of that "oooh you didn't manage to get it to work? YOU'RE SO STUPID GTFO N RTFM LOLOLOLO" linux guys. :) |
| 22:04.51 | black_13 | is there a way of having more than one distro on the same physical hard disk? |
| 22:04.58 | bassliner | wjtaylor: try alsamier |
| 22:05.01 | bassliner | *alsamixer |
| 22:05.09 | wjtaylor | I did. It does't work |
| 22:05.20 | wjtaylor | Would you do me a favor as a sanity check? |
| 22:05.24 | bassliner | wjtaylor: well i remember having such problems with alsa. |
| 22:05.49 | bassliner | well, no. i'm just building a file-server here and am pretty much not up for fiddling around with stuff right now. |
| 22:05.53 | wjtaylor | I'll go back there if you want me to, nothing is muted and volumes is up. |
| 22:05.54 | bassliner | apart from that i'm drunk. |
| 22:06.06 | wjtaylor | I'll be drunk soon... |
| 22:06.09 | bassliner | hehe |
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| 22:06.31 | frikinz | jhutchins: also rediscovered kde4 since a few months. haven't moved until now. I did actually remove network manager and nepomuk/virtuoso desktop search |
| 22:06.57 | bassliner | wjtaylor: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture#No_Microphone_Input |
| 22:07.03 | wjtaylor | It will only take a sec.. Under Preferences, just see if you can unmute your recording inputs. Close and reopen. See if they are still unmuted. Mine always remute themselves. |
| 22:07.05 | bassliner | wjtaylor: check "no microphone input" there. |
| 22:07.28 | bassliner | also: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/SoundcardTesting |
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| 22:10.17 | wjtaylor | Ill check them both. Thx |
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| 22:11.15 | bassliner | wjtaylor: don't expect this to be a smooth-off or something, getting line-in/mic-in to work means headache sometimes. |
| 22:12.02 | wjtaylor | I hear ya... it's just all those little things you take for granted. :) |
| 22:12.26 | wjtaylor | I'm cracking one open... cheers |
| 22:12.31 | bassliner | hehe |
| 22:12.33 | bassliner | cheers |
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| 22:13.24 | bassliner | bfgun: bfg9000? |
| 22:13.37 | bfgun | yes |
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| 22:14.19 | bfgun | bassliner, also known as $NAME |
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| 22:18.35 | Rotaerk | http://pastebin.com/QqRXurST |
| 22:18.53 | Rotaerk | can anyone suggest how I can begin investigating why the first Audio device there is not being used? |
| 22:19.26 | Rotaerk | well, apart from the obvious general investigation tool |
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| 22:26.22 | Rotaerk | I have two sound devices in my system, but only one of them shows up in aplay -l |
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| 22:26.34 | Rotaerk | and lspci shows one of them as not having a driver in use |
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| 22:39.11 | Rotaerk | hmm I think the problem is that HDA Intel driver is using the wrong device |
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| 22:41.59 | Gryllida | hi! what is a good way to do the "find package name or description if I know a path of a file that belongs to the package" in C without forking a child process to exec a command? |
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| 22:44.37 | nsadmin | I dunno if the search stuff is in the libs |
| 22:45.04 | evil-man | Gryllida: dpkg -S /full/path/with/filename |
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| 22:46.38 | abrotman | without forking? |
| 22:46.45 | evil-man | Gryllida: keep it simple. |
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| 22:49.32 | nsadmin | Gryllida, perhaps you might as well do that to get the thing working, then explore the apt libs |
| 22:50.31 | abrotman | Gryllida2: ISTR there are libraries for this |
| 22:51.24 | abrotman | Gryllida2: what are you really trying to do ? |
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| 23:16.07 | phunyguy | this may be a simple question, but I am on OpenMediaServer (Debian Squeeze based I think), and I want to be able to SSH in and run a few GUI apps with wine. Is it possible to just install an x server core without the OS actually booting into that, just to be able to respond to requests via SSH? |
| 23:16.59 | RagingSoHard | ssh tunneling? |
| 23:17.14 | phunyguy | ssh -X option |
| 23:17.28 | phunyguy | ssh -X user@server - then wine app. |
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| 23:21.18 | D1G1T4L3CH0 | Hey guys. Hoping for a little samba help if anyone can... I'm using SWAT for configuration, and I just need a cifs location for my tomato router to store some bandwidth files. The samba logs show http://pastebin.com/TZsY4GZz I even tried connectiong from a windows box with the same result. The samba server is running as SHARE. The samba config is http://pastebin.com/MHreZTWD. If you need more info just ask. Thanks. |
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| 23:23.20 | nsadmin | phunyguy, the "x server" is the thing that listens to kbd and mouse and displays using the video card. An "x client" is a program that wants to display, get mouse clicks and keypresses, and connects to an x server to do so |
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| 23:24.01 | phunyguy | right but can't you have an x server without an actual window or display manager? |
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| 23:24.26 | phunyguy | nsadmin: ^^^ |
| 23:24.36 | gabesubdo | phunyguy: when you're tunneling, the X server is on the machine you're actually sitting in front of |
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| 23:24.56 | nsadmin | yes you can |
| 23:25.22 | nsadmin | but which machine would you install the server onto? |
| 23:25.26 | phunyguy | ok, and the error I get is "X11 forwarding request failed on channel 0" |
| 23:25.40 | phunyguy | Maybe I am asking the wrong question. |
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| 23:25.59 | frikinz | xauth missing? |
| 23:26.00 | phunyguy | I want to SSH to a Debian Squeeze CLI box and X11 forward apps to my laptop |
| 23:26.22 | nsadmin | you would ssh from the laptop |
| 23:26.32 | phunyguy | I know that much ;) |
| 23:27.16 | grothendieck | are you passing SSH the -X flag? |
| 23:27.30 | grothendieck | and do you have X11 forwarding enabled in /etc/ssh/sshd_config? |
| 23:27.35 | grothendieck | on the server |
| 23:27.57 | gabesubdo | try verbose mode, possibly several times (up to -vvv) |
| 23:28.01 | nsadmin | (and you should install xbase-clients (which installs xauth) on both machines) |
| 23:28.03 | grothendieck | thinks X11 forwarding is enabled by default |
| 23:28.09 | abrotman | you don't know, it's not Debian |
| 23:28.17 | phunyguy | grothendieck: yes on the client |
| 23:28.26 | gabesubdo | -Y also disables some security checking or some such, might be worth a try |
| 23:28.37 | nsadmin | grothendieck, not on any of my debian machines... I had to enable it in the sshd config |
| 23:28.47 | grothendieck | phunyguy: X11 forwarding on the client is not useful |
| 23:29.21 | phunyguy | grothendieck: I was answering yes to your first question, not second. |
| 23:29.34 | phunyguy | about passing -X flag |
| 23:29.41 | grothendieck | oh |
| 23:29.59 | frikinz | phunyguy: you need xauth on the remote machine |
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| 23:30.22 | phunyguy | abrotman: it is debian. |
| 23:30.30 | phunyguy | squeeze. |
| 23:30.48 | grothendieck | nsadmin: http://pastebin.com/QEnSNA0t |
| 23:30.54 | grothendieck | I don't think I changed it |
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| 23:31.29 | jhutchins | On upgrading to kde4, the address book doesn't seem to get imported. Is there a solution? |
| 23:31.29 | grothendieck | yah the sshd_config hasn't been modified since I installed Debian |
| 23:31.31 | nsadmin | grothendieck, what release are you using? |
| 23:31.36 | grothendieck | Squeeze |
| 23:31.40 | grothendieck | 6.0.3 |
| 23:31.52 | nsadmin | hmm, interesting... they must have changed it |
| 23:32.12 | grothendieck | er 6.0.5 rather |
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| 23:32.41 | grothendieck | I installed ssh-server |
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| 23:33.18 | grothendieck | disables X11 forwarding now that I have revealed this fact |
| 23:33.33 | phunyguy | grothendieck: it is enabled |
| 23:33.40 | phunyguy | in sshd config |
| 23:33.49 | phunyguy | and I installed said package, nsadmin |
| 23:33.59 | phunyguy | ahh wait, you said on client as well? |
| 23:34.01 | nsadmin | cool... |
| 23:34.50 | nsadmin | All I remember is I always did on the machines I sshed from and to (which were usually in the same room as each other and as me) |
| 23:34.56 | grothendieck | grep -i "ssh" /var/log/auth.log |
| 23:34.57 | phunyguy | nsadmin: still no go |
| 23:36.13 | nsadmin | let's give names to the machines we're talking about |
| 23:36.19 | phunyguy | grothendieck: error: Failed to allocate internet-domain X11 display socket. <--- only line mentioning X11 |
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| 23:36.42 | phunyguy | omv (server) and laptop (laptop) |
| 23:37.00 | grothendieck | great now you have an error |
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| 23:37.17 | grothendieck | an error that can be entered to one of the many great search engines on the internet |
| 23:37.21 | grothendieck | :D |
| 23:37.29 | nsadmin | ok, is it true that you want to make connection between omv and laptop and display on laptop? |
| 23:37.38 | phunyguy | nsadmin: yes |
| 23:37.53 | nsadmin | great :) which machine did you ssh from? |
| 23:37.55 | phunyguy | that box has horsepower that I need |
| 23:37.58 | grothendieck | are they on the same LAN? |
| 23:37.59 | phunyguy | laptop. |
| 23:38.03 | phunyguy | grothendieck: yes |
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| 23:38.43 | phunyguy | not sure what that matters but yes |
| 23:39.09 | phunyguy | I can make a solid SSH connection, it just doesnt want to play with X11 |
| 23:39.30 | nsadmin | ok, that sounds right... could you ssh in and try a different client... like... xterm |
| 23:39.35 | phunyguy | maybe a restart after the xorg-server install that just happened? |
| 23:39.55 | phunyguy | seems like a major system component... |
| 23:39.55 | nsadmin | well just restart sshd on omv |
| 23:40.00 | phunyguy | did. |
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| 23:40.07 | nsadmin | that should do it |
| 23:40.14 | phunyguy | didn't :P |
| 23:40.35 | grothendieck | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=422327 |
| 23:40.43 | phunyguy | I'm going to humor myself and restart. |
| 23:40.50 | nsadmin | ok |
| 23:40.51 | grothendieck | just restart ssh server |
| 23:40.57 | grothendieck | service sshd restart |
| 23:40.59 | nsadmin | he did that :) |
| 23:41.05 | nsadmin | or so he says :) |
| 23:41.11 | phunyguy | 2007...? |
| 23:41.20 | phunyguy | that post is 5 years old. |
| 23:41.42 | grothendieck | I noticed. |
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| 23:41.54 | phunyguy | I'm restarting |
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| 23:41.57 | grothendieck | It contains a lot of detailed information |
| 23:41.59 | phunyguy | didnt see any X processes running |
| 23:42.02 | grothendieck | good troubleshoting strategy |
| 23:42.09 | grothendieck | instructive in other ways |
| 23:42.13 | grothendieck | ok restart good luck |
| 23:42.14 | phunyguy | "Did you try turning it off and back on again?" |
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| 23:42.28 | nsadmin | eep :) |
| 23:42.36 | phunyguy | (TV quote) |
| 23:42.39 | grothendieck | what is this windows? :p |
| 23:43.02 | nsadmin | this windows doesn't match plurality :) |
| 23:43.03 | grothendieck | I haven't rebooted in 27 days...and that's because I moved! |
| 23:43.12 | grothendieck | lol |
| 23:43.25 | phunyguy | I'm sure I could have hit up init.d to see what service it is but a simple sudo reboot will suffice |
| 23:43.35 | grothendieck | then do eet |
| 23:43.38 | phunyguy | did. |
| 23:43.43 | nsadmin | and? |
| 23:43.44 | grothendieck | that was fast |
| 23:43.53 | phunyguy | =( |
| 23:43.55 | phunyguy | SSD in there |
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| 23:44.00 | phunyguy | and fail. |
| 23:44.06 | grothendieck | what? |
| 23:44.20 | grothendieck | your disk failed? |
| 23:44.25 | phunyguy | It's a debian squeeze box with barely anything running, and a Solid State drive |
| 23:44.31 | phunyguy | so of course it was quick. |
| 23:44.34 | grothendieck | oh |
| 23:44.36 | grothendieck | lol |
| 23:44.54 | phunyguy | and the ssh -X failed. |
| 23:44.54 | grothendieck | I should take a nap... |
| 23:45.03 | phunyguy | but I need you to google for me. |
| 23:45.08 | phunyguy | :( |
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| 23:45.23 | nsadmin | ssh -X -itself- failed? |
| 23:45.25 | phunyguy | good night. |
| 23:45.37 | phunyguy | not entirely, but X11 forwardingt gave the same error |
| 23:45.41 | phunyguy | -t |
| 23:45.52 | grothendieck | I'm not actually going to take a nap :P |
| 23:45.54 | aidalgol | I'm not sure when this behaviour changed: when I adjust the volume in Gnome3, I no longer hear a popping noise. Is there a hidden setting for this somewhere, or was this removed in a recent update/release? |
| 23:45.55 | shakezula | is there anywhere that archives full cd sets of past releases? in specific im looking for a full cd 1 of Woody for MIPSEL, i know, i know |
| 23:45.56 | grothendieck | it's 5 pm |
| 23:46.19 | nsadmin | shakezula, archive.debian.org |
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| 23:46.36 | grothendieck | phunyguy: is your /etc/hosts reasonably configured? |
| 23:46.49 | grothendieck | as in localhost isn't something weird that it should not be |
| 23:46.50 | phunyguy | grothendieck: on which machine? |
| 23:46.53 | grothendieck | the server |
| 23:46.57 | phunyguy | if it is, I didnt do it. |
| 23:46.59 | grothendieck | lol well both I would hope |
| 23:47.13 | phunyguy | then again it is a spinoff of Debian, not the actual distro. |
| 23:47.15 | shakezula | oh wow, i didn't realize they went all the way back to the beginning on there, thank you! |
| 23:47.23 | phunyguy | but it still uses all the debian repos. |
| 23:47.39 | grothendieck | phunyguy: ssh is a fundamental service |
| 23:47.45 | phunyguy | it's just a debian OS with added software. |
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| 23:48.17 | grothendieck | try adding "AddressFamily inet" to sshd_config on the server |
| 23:48.23 | grothendieck | and then restart sshd |
| 23:48.35 | dioz | i have a debian machine with two NICs in t |
| 23:48.40 | dioz | is there anything special i need to change? |
| 23:48.42 | grothendieck | it seems that is the first thing to try |
| 23:48.48 | dioz | frmo what i can see all my arp requests are going thruogh the same nic |
| 23:48.55 | dioz | which is really confusing my switch |
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| 23:49.47 | grothendieck | http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/02/msg01181.html |
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| 23:50.15 | phunyguy | hmmm... no error this time |
| 23:50.18 | phunyguy | *grin* |
| 23:50.23 | phunyguy | brb |
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| 23:50.36 | nsadmin | dioz: so, you have two nics. what do you want to do with them? normally you would only use one |
| 23:50.44 | dioz | grothendieck: that is about renaming nics |
| 23:50.52 | grothendieck | I have no idea what you want to do with them |
| 23:51.09 | dioz | nsadmin: i have a residential gateway and i want it both in the lan and in the wan (dmz) |
| 23:51.30 | nsadmin | so, you want it to function as a gateway? |
| 23:51.33 | grothendieck | ifconfig tells you what? |
| 23:51.47 | nsadmin | or do you already have a gateway? |
| 23:52.29 | dioz | i already have a gateway |
| 23:52.47 | nsadmin | if you already have a gateway, you're trying to do something like multihoming, which I don't know how to do. |
| 23:52.55 | phunyguy | so turn off ip forwarding and just give it IPs on each net if you need to |
| 23:53.01 | nsadmin | maybe reverse multihoming |
| 23:53.06 | grothendieck | phunyguy: did your X11 forwarding work? |
| 23:53.10 | phunyguy | nothing too complicated there |
| 23:53.13 | dioz | i know what the issue is |
| 23:53.14 | phunyguy | i have to test |
| 23:53.18 | grothendieck | cool |
| 23:53.21 | dioz | eth0 is the only device responding to arps |
| 23:53.26 | dioz | so my switch is all messed up |
| 23:53.33 | dioz | how do i make it so arps go out their specific interface |
| 23:53.34 | phunyguy | works. |
| 23:53.36 | phunyguy | wheee! |
| 23:53.39 | grothendieck | nice |
| 23:53.40 | nsadmin | hey! |
| 23:54.03 | phunyguy | it was thate line you told me to put in sshd config |
| 23:54.14 | grothendieck | phunyguy: yah I thnk it forces ipv4 |
| 23:54.15 | phunyguy | -e |
| 23:54.22 | phunyguy | awesome. |
| 23:54.26 | grothendieck | not really sure to be honest :P |
| 23:54.52 | phunyguy | "I'm 99.9% sure" |
| 23:54.55 | phunyguy | "so you really dont know" |
| 23:54.57 | grothendieck | lol |
| 23:54.58 | phunyguy | "no.." |
| 23:55.14 | grothendieck | thank god for 5 year old bug reports! :p |
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| 23:55.25 | phunyguy | i know, right? |
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| 23:56.18 | grothendieck | it's almost like they are kept meticulously archived for a reason... |
| 23:56.52 | phunyguy | hmmm seems as though wine is still pissed |
| 23:56.57 | phunyguy | :-/ |
| 23:57.15 | grothendieck | sucks |
| 23:57.17 | nsadmin | hmm... pissed wine... palletable... |
| 23:57.21 | phunyguy | I was thinking lack of X was the issue, but it's a command line app that interacts with the desktop via systray icon >< |
| 23:57.41 | phunyguy | it works via SSH when hosted from a ubuntu desktop. |
| 23:57.47 | grothendieck | there are easier ways to get a headache, phunyguy |
| 23:58.02 | phunyguy | raggafraggin. |
| 23:58.06 | phunyguy | rackin frat. |
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| 23:59.12 | phunyguy | I just hate now the entire A/V world is hung up with Windows/Mac |
| 23:59.44 | phunyguy | hence this one command line app I need to bust out some DTS-HD audio from my Blurays for a media server, and encode as FLAC. |
| 23:59.45 | nsadmin | that's where the money is, and it's NOT anywhere near linux |
| 23:59.57 | phunyguy | yeah theres no money in free software |