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| 00:04.48 | g00se | Is mystified. Booted back into Windows sound worked, rebooted back into wheezy, sound ... worked! |
| 00:04.55 | abrotman | yay! |
| 00:04.59 | abrotman | now try it with a cold boot |
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| 00:05.52 | g00se | Yes, i will later. Its 1 am here ;) |
| 00:06.01 | abrotman | oh ok |
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| 00:08.27 | qw12 | j #perl |
| 00:08.53 | wjtaylor_ | rgr: Does gnome volume control affect alsa or pulse? |
| 00:08.59 | wjtaylor_ | That's were my issue is |
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| 00:09.14 | g00se | What on earth happened there? I wonder if it's to do with the weird setup i've got. Booted a partition from a usb key |
| 00:09.25 | ken3 | works. |
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| 00:12.40 | g00se | "GStreamer was unable to detect any sound devices. Some sound system specific GStreamer packages may be missing. It may also be a permissions problem." |
| 00:13.06 | g00se | Happens when i open mixer, so all not well yet ... |
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| 00:15.19 | g00se | shall get some more gstreamer .. |
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| 00:19.43 | g00se | gets that fixed by installing gstreamer alsa |
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| 00:20.54 | g00se | is bowled over - even the card reader's suddenly working! |
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| 00:24.17 | g00se | Hang on - perhaps spoke too soon .. |
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| 00:24.51 | soloman | people are telling me that sid will break less than wheezy, is this true. I was under the impression that this was the least "stable" of the releases |
| 00:24.54 | soloman | ? |
| 00:25.05 | soloman | sorry to be a pain, but i wanted to at least ask you guys |
| 00:25.53 | pinkus | i am also hearing about sid's superiority in term of stableness. is this true? |
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| 00:26.30 | nkuttler | soloman: usually sid will break more frequently, but when testing gets a bug it stays longer |
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| 00:27.12 | nkuttler | soloman: that being said, if stability is relevant to you, run stable |
| 00:28.08 | soloman | people are telling me that sid is more "stable" than wheezy though. This is out of principle inaccurate though right? |
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| 00:28.35 | nkuttler | soloman: it's nonsense |
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| 00:29.36 | zx2c4 | hello friends |
| 00:30.00 | zx2c4 | im about to release a project and have a gentoo package but i dont have a debian/ubuntu package. anyone in here want to make one for me? |
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| 00:32.53 | VastOne | Is there any debian staff in this channel? |
| 00:33.27 | sssilver | zx2c4: http://wiki.debian.org/IntroDebianPackaging this would help you. It's not that hard really. |
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| 00:33.37 | sssilver | zx2c4: especially since you don't seem to need to push upstream. |
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| 00:34.20 | zx2c4 | eventually i'd like to have it upstream i suppose |
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| 00:35.46 | g00se | VastOne: Why do you want to know? |
| 00:36.04 | sssilver | zx2c4: it's simple really. Just go through the guide. |
| 00:36.21 | zx2c4 | kk |
| 00:36.38 | VastOne | Just curious, I was told this was the channel of debian staff and found that an interesting statement |
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| 00:39.59 | g00se | Well, there are at least two here who aren't ;) |
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| 00:41.00 | VastOne | :) |
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| 00:45.15 | abrotman | VastOne: which "staff" ? |
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| 00:57.40 | mmnicolas | abrotman: ALL THE STAFF!! |
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| 00:58.32 | Eryn_1983_FL | hi |
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| 00:59.19 | abrotman | mmnicolas: ? |
| 00:59.25 | abrotman | Eryn_1983_FL: you're already here ? |
| 01:00.19 | VastOne | abrotman: That in fact is the question... The phrasing was that 'debian stafd here told me this" |
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| 01:00.27 | VastOne | staff |
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| 01:02.05 | abrotman | VastOne: what are you looking for help with ? |
| 01:02.28 | VastOne | I am not in any need of help, just a fact check |
| 01:02.35 | Eryn_1983_FL | lol |
| 01:02.55 | LiDaR | VastOne: sort of same thing isnt it ? |
| 01:02.59 | Eryn_1983_FL | is there a girls only channel around here somewhere? |
| 01:03.01 | abrotman | VastOne: well, sinc ei don't know hwich staff you refer to .. can't answer the question |
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| 01:03.12 | abrotman | Eryn_1983_FL: there used to be #debian-women on irc.oftc.net |
| 01:03.18 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
| 01:03.19 | abrotman | Eryn_1983_FL: no idea if it still exists |
| 01:03.35 | Eryn_1983_FL | not that i don't enjoy you guys though |
| 01:03.45 | abrotman | yeah, we're a right pain in the arse |
| 01:04.05 | Eryn_1983_FL | you do crack me up sometimes though |
| 01:04.14 | LiDaR | used to be a #linuxchicks or something similar as well on here |
| 01:04.18 | VastOne | Thanks abrotman that was an answer enough, I appreciate it... |
| 01:04.34 | abrotman | how?! |
| 01:04.38 | abrotman | you didn't even ask! |
| 01:04.39 | Eryn_1983_FL | :) |
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| 01:05.31 | mmnicolas | VastOne: basically, the answer is no, this is a support channel |
| 01:05.53 | VastOne | Thank you mmnicolas ... |
| 01:06.19 | LiDaR | you all have a idea of the best way to index a ftp server? basicly i need to search 500 directorys with 3-5 sudbirectorys with sometimes subdirectorys under those for a certian file type and then down load them all |
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| 01:06.54 | mmnicolas | VastOne: you want the mailing list, http://lists.debian.org/devel.html |
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| 01:08.24 | abrotman | mmnicolas: well, the #debian staff is here |
| 01:08.38 | abrotman | LiDaR: wget |
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| 01:10.43 | mmnicolas | abrotman: he said, debian's staff |
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| 01:10.51 | LiDaR | hmm let me read the wget man page i dont think it can do the indexing and selecting |
| 01:11.11 | abrotman | mmnicolas: it only takes a # to make my answer correct, an easy omission |
| 01:13.18 | LiDaR | abrotman: you are correct wget can select file types |
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| 01:22.22 | gnat_x | does "ls -l" show the created time, or the modified time? |
| 01:22.35 | abrotman | modified |
| 01:22.42 | abrotman | thinks this would be easy to test |
| 01:22.46 | gnat_x | yeah. |
| 01:22.48 | gnat_x | just did |
| 01:22.49 | abrotman | gnat_x: stat <filename> |
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| 01:23.10 | gnat_x | but i for some reason had always thought it was ctime not mtime. |
| 01:23.19 | gnat_x | man page seems to suggest the same as well. |
| 01:24.06 | gnat_x | wonder where i got that wrong idea. thanks for confirming i was wrong. :) |
| 01:24.16 | abrotman | any time! |
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| 01:27.48 | jpinx | ok - not strictly debian, but any clues/pointers how to get tree to append the size of the listed dirs/files ? I see no options that do that :/ |
| 01:28.51 | fellipe | hi, how can I forget apt-problems?????? I can't do anything because I get "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" |
| 01:29.43 | abrotman | fix the actual error |
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| 01:30.47 | fellipe | abrotman, I can't! I did everything! |
| 01:30.58 | gnat_x | hrm. what is the difference between "Modify" and "change" in stat? |
| 01:31.15 | abrotman | fellipe: pastebin *all* of the output |
| 01:31.17 | gnat_x | it looks like i may want to change time, not the modify. |
| 01:31.32 | fellipe | sure! |
| 01:31.33 | abrotman | change time eh Doc Brown ... |
| 01:31.34 | fellipe | wait.. |
| 01:31.38 | nyingen | Hi, I have an odd issue with a hard drive containing a debian system. It won't boot (BIOS hangs trying, with a black screen and blinking cursor), but using a rescue CD, I can see that the partitions and data are all ok |
| 01:31.50 | nyingen | can I somehow use a livecd to chain-boot that system? |
| 01:32.17 | nyingen | as in, somehow have the livecd's boot loader invoke the boot loader on the problem drive |
| 01:32.18 | abrotman | nyingen: it has a rescue optoin, or try the supergrub disk |
| 01:32.30 | gnat_x | nyingen: are you trying to make the disk bootable again, or recover data? |
| 01:32.42 | nyingen | I'm trying to see if it can be booted |
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| 01:33.32 | ImaLamer | nyingen: look into booting into a live system, and seeing if you can reinstall grub using the installed system |
| 01:33.33 | Eryn_1983_FL | well i found debiwn-women ... |
| 01:33.39 | Eryn_1983_FL | its very queit.. |
| 01:33.49 | ImaLamer | nyingen: ie. chroot |
| 01:33.54 | gnat_x | abrotman: s/to/the.. but hehe. |
| 01:33.57 | fellipe | abrotman, wow, I solved! |
| 01:33.59 | fellipe | :) |
| 01:34.02 | abrotman | Eryn_1983_FL: remember it's also a holiday in .us |
| 01:34.03 | fellipe | thanks ... |
| 01:34.06 | nyingen | ImaLamer: I'm not sure grub is the problem, since grub is apparently never reached during the boot process |
| 01:34.10 | Eryn_1983_FL | true. |
| 01:34.16 | abrotman | Eryn_1983_FL: and nighttime in .eu |
| 01:34.22 | Eryn_1983_FL | yes well the job i got there are no holidays, just holiday pay.. |
| 01:34.27 | Eryn_1983_FL | pooo |
| 01:34.35 | nyingen | to test that theory, I wanted to try some kind of chain loading, if that's possible |
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| 01:34.50 | Eryn_1983_FL | lets see if my config saves.. |
| 01:35.04 | abrotman | ? |
| 01:35.11 | ImaLamer | nyingen: you can chainload - but i think you'd want to update grub to be sure it's got the right boot files anyways |
| 01:35.12 | Eryn_1983_FL | weechat config |
| 01:35.22 | nyingen | ImaLamer: yeah, I'll check on that |
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| 01:35.51 | ImaLamer | nyingen: first google result shows me; http://zeldor.biz/2010/12/install-grub-from-chroot/ |
| 01:35.57 | nyingen | the situation is that I moved across the country, and my computer was shipped on a truck. Before it was packed, I removed the hard drive and power supply and packed them separately. On reassembly, it doesn't boot |
| 01:36.02 | abrotman | ah okay |
| 01:36.30 | nyingen | abrotman: supergrub looks like what I want |
| 01:36.35 | abrotman | if it works ... |
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| 01:37.01 | ImaLamer | nyingen: have you tried various ports - i took apart my pc to rework fans and suddenly a SATA port doesn't work |
| 01:37.40 | ImaLamer | nyingen: which, you'd get something similar - i guess i'd be starting to check bios settings and then go for chainloading (i.e. does the bios know to boot from THAT drive) |
| 01:37.43 | ImaLamer | just a though |
| 01:37.46 | ImaLamer | *thought |
| 01:37.56 | nyingen | ImaLamer: I'll check on that. Perhaps the port it was in doesn't work anymore |
| 01:38.00 | LordDeath | where can I see the default version of 000-default for apache2? |
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| 01:38.11 | abrotman | if it didn't work ... would the liveCD be able to see the partitions ? |
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| 01:38.18 | abrotman | !tell LordDeath about confnew |
| 01:38.20 | nyingen | abrotman: yah, I was about to say that |
| 01:38.22 | abrotman | LordDeath: back yours up first |
| 01:38.35 | nyingen | also, the BIOS sees the drive and correctly identifies it |
| 01:38.45 | ImaLamer | abrotman: sometimes. i blacklist drives in the bios to have them appear in windows |
| 01:39.01 | abrotman | i think he'd know if he'd done that? |
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| 01:39.25 | ImaLamer | but that's windows... i'm just saying, strange things happen, IDE cables have died on me mid copy and that cable never worked again |
| 01:39.47 | nyingen | Using a livecd (grml) I was able to mount and even copy data from the drive |
| 01:40.02 | nyingen | the sole problem seems to be that after the BIOS POST, I get a blank screen with blinking cursor, forever |
| 01:40.09 | ImaLamer | i'd suspect though if the drive is there, found and it is selected to boot you'd get a "no operating system" or similar error |
| 01:40.11 | nyingen | no error messages, no beeps, nothing |
| 01:40.19 | nyingen | ImaLamer: right. very mysterious. |
| 01:40.37 | ImaLamer | i'm guessing no grub, or other boot issues more software related |
| 01:40.51 | nyingen | could be, but why? it was working 100% fine before I moved |
| 01:41.02 | ImaLamer | nyingen: is it a dualboot drive? |
| 01:41.04 | nyingen | bits rotting on the moving truck? :{ |
| 01:41.14 | nyingen | ImaLamer: I'm not sure what that means |
| 01:41.28 | ImaLamer | nyingen: did you have windows and linux on it? |
| 01:41.32 | nyingen | no, only linux |
| 01:41.42 | ImaLamer | nyingen: or rather, are there other drives in the machine, USB drive? |
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| 01:41.56 | nyingen | the only other drive is a DVD drive |
| 01:42.06 | nyingen | which is on SATA port 2, but disconnecting it had no effect |
| 01:42.29 | ImaLamer | nyingen: i'd check the boot order of the drive(s) in BIOS, and install GRUB again from the livecd using chroot/mount bind |
| 01:42.52 | nyingen | yeah, I think I'll do that, after I see about booting it with supergrub or something. Just to satisfy my curiosity |
| 01:43.03 | ImaLamer | so we are back to chainloading, try it |
| 01:43.24 | abrotman | did he try supergriub yet? |
| 01:43.30 | nyingen | incidentally, researching this symptom on the web puts the blame on all kinds of different things. OS, boot loader, old BIOS, power supply issues |
| 01:43.35 | nyingen | abrotman: downloading it now |
| 01:44.27 | ImaLamer | hrm, yeah, could be a powersupply issue too - maybe be sure the drive is on a cable with no other siblings/etc |
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| 01:45.17 | ImaLamer | i had an issue once with a fan being plugged into the extension from the HD power connector |
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| 01:45.40 | abrotman | nyingen: it's *huge* |
| 01:45.48 | ImaLamer | alas, i have to go afk, i hope it's just a grub/software issue! good luck |
| 01:46.11 | nyingen | ImaLamer: thanks |
| 01:46.27 | nyingen | abrotman: i remember when 5MB was *huge* |
| 01:47.17 | abrotman | 5MB? |
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| 01:48.18 | LiDaR | abrotman: wget is working perfect ill fuly expect a nasty email from the it department in the am if they have security logging up |
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| 01:48.52 | abrotman | anon ftp is a security issue ? |
| 01:48.56 | nyingen | abrotman: I guess it's 7 |
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| 01:49.18 | LiDaR | abrotman: its not anonymous which is worse lol |
| 01:49.22 | abrotman | LiDaR: ah okay |
| 01:49.46 | LiDaR | abrotman: 350 user accounts with the same password |
| 01:50.02 | abrotman | uh ... |
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| 01:51.04 | dvs | 12345? |
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| 01:52.09 | LiDaR | dvs: its actually a decent password however every employee recieves a .pdf through email that contains it |
| 01:52.38 | LiDaR | no concept of security at all |
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| 01:53.03 | robysath | nspluginwrapper has been removed from wheezy and sid? |
| 01:53.16 | abrotman | is pretty sure this shouldn't be getting discussed in a publicly logged channel |
| 01:53.24 | abrotman | robysath: has it ? |
| 01:53.33 | abrotman | judd: versions nspluginwrapper |
| 01:53.34 | judd | No package named 'nspluginwrapper' was found in i386. |
| 01:53.40 | abrotman | judd: versions nspluginwrapper --arch amd64 |
| 01:53.41 | judd | Package: nspluginwrapper on amd64 -- lenny/contrib: 0.9.91.5-2; squeeze/contrib: 1.3.0-1 |
| 01:53.52 | abrotman | robysath: is the idea that you can use multiarch? |
| 01:54.42 | robysath | abrotman: huh? Sorry, I don't understand. There is a dependency to this package from citrix receiver .deb file I downloaded and trying to install |
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| 01:54.55 | LiDaR | abrotman: so long as i dont mention the company name they can stay anonymously unsafe |
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| 01:56.36 | robysath | abrotman: i looked up multiarch, yes the citrix receiver is 32-bit |
| 01:56.49 | robysath | so it wants ia32-libs, nspluginwrapper |
| 01:57.38 | abrotman | LiDaR: hopefully not related to your whois for your ip ... |
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| 02:13.20 | rgr | somewhat scarily the umount file in .ecryptfs on debian stable doesnt work. Your home directory is not unmounted when you log out. This is a pretty scary bug since hibernating/suspending after logging out leaves your home dir unencrypted. |
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| 02:23.50 | Greek-Boy | How can I watch a live ssh session of a user on my server? I want to see exactly what they're seeing... |
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| 02:25.08 | abrotman | Greek-Boy: screen + ACLs |
| 02:25.15 | abrotman | or snoopy if that still exists |
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| 02:25.49 | Greek-Boy | but screen would have to be co-operative right? |
| 02:27.37 | abrotman | it has ACLs |
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| 02:34.18 | nyingen | abrotman: supergrub worked |
| 02:34.21 | nyingen | everything seems fine |
| 02:35.00 | dvs | steals the power supply |
| 02:35.39 | nyingen | so now what? |
| 02:35.49 | nyingen | the boot loader seems fine, all the data seems fine, but the BIOS won't boot the drive? |
| 02:36.06 | nyingen | I guess I can just permanently use supergrub to boot it, but ... |
| 02:36.13 | dvs | grub-install? |
| 02:36.48 | nyingen | dvs: the grub installation seems fine, otherwise supergrub wouldn't have been able to boot it, no? |
| 02:36.54 | dvs | ah |
| 02:37.02 | abrotman | nyingen: yay! |
| 02:37.17 | nyingen | I could be wrong about that, but I have a hard time imagining how the boot sector, and nothing else, could have gotten corrupted in transit |
| 02:37.23 | abrotman | nyingen: that's not quite how it works, AIUI, and redoing grub-install shouldn't hurt |
| 02:37.26 | abrotman | .win 6 |
| 02:37.46 | nyingen | ok, I'll redo grub-install |
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| 02:38.18 | LiDaR | abrotman: do you by chance know the trick to making wget just download the found files into current directory ive tried -nH -np -L1 everything i can find |
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| 02:39.42 | abrotman | LiDaR: eh .. it should do that laready |
| 02:40.16 | LiDaR | well --cut-dirs is wort of working |
| 02:40.52 | LiDaR | abrotman: its recreating the directory structure .. which is fine but i want all the files in one directory on my computer |
| 02:41.12 | abrotman | LiDaR: i'd probably wait until you have all of the files on your system .. it will be much easier then |
| 02:41.25 | abrotman | IMO anyway |
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| 02:41.40 | abrotman | find foo/ -type f -exec move {} . \; ? |
| 02:41.54 | abrotman | give cafuego_ a taco |
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| 02:44.25 | LiDaR | abrotman: i finally found it its -nd not -np and all the other things i was reading |
| 02:46.52 | abrotman | yay! |
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| 02:48.50 | LiDaR | now for rejecting a few file types and i should be set |
| 02:49.20 | nyingen | abrotman: curious. after running 'grub-install /dev/sda', the BIOS will boot the drive, but after selecting the kernel I want in the grub menu, I get an error about unknown partition type 0xcd |
| 02:49.34 | nyingen | supergrub can still boot the drive though, with no problems |
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| 02:50.09 | nyingen | er, the error message is "filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xcd" |
| 02:50.12 | nyingen | weird. |
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| 02:52.44 | md_5 | any idea about when debian final will be out? |
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| 02:55.34 | abrotman | when what? |
| 02:55.51 | abrotman | nyingen: eh .. and it' stops booting ? |
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| 02:59.27 | wilee-nilee | nyingen, You update grub after installing to the mbr? |
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| 03:43.34 | nyingen | wilee-nilee: sorry, was afk |
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| 03:43.42 | nyingen | wilee-nilee: what did you mean with your comment? |
| 03:44.30 | wilee-nilee | when you run that command to load the mbr you need to update grub which is update-grub2 |
| 03:44.48 | wilee-nilee | nyingen, I assume you are using grub2 here. |
| 03:45.01 | nyingen | ah, hm |
| 03:45.03 | nyingen | I'll test that |
| 03:45.56 | Joelito | which grub can be easily customize :-s |
| 03:46.07 | Joelito | which...wich |
| 03:46.14 | Joelito | errr, :p |
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| 03:53.47 | swirl | The "update-manager" package lists various updates, separated into two categories: "distribution updates" and "third party updates". What does it mean by "third party updates"?! All my sources.list sources are official Debian sources and mirrors. |
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| 03:55.17 | Joelito | swirl, paste your sources.list and the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ |
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| 03:55.54 | optraz | hi, i have a window machine and when i ssh to the server using putty. it just closed right after i click open. i have check telnet to port 22 is okay as it return response. what can i do to ssh again? |
| 03:56.02 | swirl | ok Joelito: |
| 03:56.26 | swirl | deb [arch=amd64] cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Wheezy_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Binary-1 20120827-04:57]/ wheezy contrib main |
| 03:56.27 | swirl | deb [arch=amd64,i386] http://debian.inspire.net.nz wheezy main contrib non-free |
| 03:56.27 | swirl | deb-src http://debian.inspire.net.nz wheezy main contrib non-free |
| 03:56.27 | swirl | deb [arch=amd64,i386] http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib |
| 03:56.27 | swirl | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib |
| 03:56.39 | Joelito | swirl, not here |
| 03:56.41 | Joelito | :p |
| 03:56.44 | swirl | oh, sorry |
| 03:56.47 | swirl | irc newbie |
| 03:56.48 | swirl | shrugs |
| 03:57.03 | swirl | where, then? |
| 03:57.24 | Joelito | some paste sites |
| 03:57.39 | Joelito | see channel topic about pastebin |
| 03:57.50 | swirl | oh... |
| 03:58.50 | swirl | well...anyway...there's nothing in my /etc/apt/sources.list.d, so that's all. what does it mean by "third party" updates? |
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| 04:00.27 | Joelito | ok, maybe you installed something from contrib |
| 04:00.33 | swirl | I see the package has a "notify me of a new Ubuntu version" option, so it's possible that this is just a buggy package and the "third party" isn't relevant |
| 04:00.40 | swirl | oh, I see! |
| 04:01.06 | Joelito | wait "ubuntu"? |
| 04:01.07 | Joelito | :p |
| 04:01.11 | swirl | "contrib" is not part of the distribution. How silly of me |
| 04:01.27 | swirl | Yeah, it's a Debian Wheezy package, but it says "notify me of a new Ubuntu version"...LOL |
| 04:02.05 | Joelito | maybe, you should ask @debian-next, see topic |
| 04:03.04 | swirl | The bug's already been filed. As for "third party"...I get it now...contrib...I'm happy to let it update. |
| 04:03.07 | swirl | thanks for your help |
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| 04:29.29 | aidalgol | What's an easy-to-setup VPN program? |
| 04:29.44 | aidalgol | (That's supported on non-GNU OSes.) |
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| 04:38.48 | hadi | hi guys |
| 04:39.00 | hadi | is .bashrc supposed to be run if I do sth like this: |
| 04:39.02 | hadi | ssh hzolfaghari@ce.sharif.ir echo hello |
| 04:39.04 | hadi | ? |
| 04:42.37 | nevyn | no |
| 04:44.20 | hadi | ok, I don't know if this has anything to do with that |
| 04:44.46 | hadi | but I've installed git on my home directory on that server |
| 04:45.03 | hadi | and I've added the location to PATH in bashrc |
| 04:45.19 | hadi | but when I try to clone a repository from that server I get: |
| 04:45.26 | hadi | bash: git-upload-pack: command not found |
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| 04:46.47 | hadi | so bashrc is probably not being run and the PATH isn't changed |
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| 04:47.16 | hanslanda | Hello guys, i found a script over the internet to turn off mouse acceleration to improve my skills on a fps game, and it worked...but when i open the game it dont recognize the script i think...and im getting mouse acceleration in game. does anybody know why? (sorry about bad english) |
| 04:47.17 | hadi | anything I could do to solve this? |
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| 05:09.53 | Gnosis- | would it be totally against the Debian spirit to have firmware and drivers required for network usage in the install CD, even if non-free? |
| 05:10.17 | Gnosis- | IMHO, the benefits to new users would be enormous |
| 05:10.41 | LiDaR | Gnosis-: it is actually illegal to distribute them in most cases |
| 05:11.17 | Gnosis- | LiDaR: then wouldn't that mean that Ubuntu/Fedora/etc. install CDs are illegal? |
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| 05:11.49 | LiDaR | Gnosis-: i think its a real grey area and debian plays safe |
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| 05:12.25 | LiDaR | Gnosis-: keep in mind i havent read about it in years ... might be worth a google |
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| 05:24.31 | shawn-debian | why wont debian detect the harddrive in this system? |
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| 05:24.42 | shawn-debian | or the usb flash drive I just plugged in |
| 05:25.02 | shawn-debian | I am running debian off of another usb flash driv |
| 05:25.04 | shawn-debian | *Drive |
| 05:25.45 | LiDaR | shawn-debian: what kind of drive is it ? |
| 05:26.06 | shawn-debian | this flash drive running debian is a Lexar 8 GB |
| 05:27.09 | xai | Hello. On this page — "http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s06.html.en" we have command "fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image", |
| 05:27.15 | xai | that is incorrect: "version 'custom.1.0' is invalid: version number does not start with digit" |
| 05:27.25 | xai | Just for notice :) |
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| 05:38.03 | LiDaR | xai: thats been that way for years no reason to fix it now! |
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| 05:39.01 | xai | LiDaR: Explain it, please :)... |
| 05:39.37 | LiDaR | xai: use --revision=1.0 |
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| 05:41.01 | LiDaR | xai: assuming your like me and forgot network card on the first try and sound ect. ect. up to about five trys keep changing the number up |
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| 05:41.56 | LiDaR | forgetting the network card in a new kernel is always a where is my internets moment! |
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| 05:44.56 | blubberdiblub | xai, there's a different option to append things like "custom" and similar. i think it was called extraversion or something like that. it's a couple of years ago i compiled a kernel ;) |
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| 05:59.22 | Morteza | hi |
| 05:59.29 | Morteza | I have problem in installing package |
| 05:59.41 | Morteza | this is my problem : http://www.shiaupload.ir/images/06492750729894218615.png |
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| 06:00.18 | Devastator | can't you pastebin? |
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| 06:03.22 | Morteza | Devastator: this is screen shot of my vm on ther server |
| 06:03.33 | Devastator | hum.. |
| 06:03.53 | Morteza | Devastator: did you see ? |
| 06:03.57 | LiDaR | Morteza: looks bad |
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| 06:04.39 | Morteza | LiDaR: state of the vm ? |
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| 06:04.59 | Devastator | Morteza which debian release? |
| 06:05.10 | Morteza | Devastator: this is debian 6 |
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| 06:05.54 | Devastator | Morteza what happens when you type apt-get update? |
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| 06:11.16 | xai | < LiDaR> xai: use --revision=1.0 -- I know how to use it. I just can't understand why every newbie should feel a headache, while reading this document. |
| 06:13.49 | xai | blubberdiblub: I know... I'm experienced enough in this question. I've just noticed about a problem in document. |
| 06:13.56 | xai | the* |
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| 06:14.56 | blubberdiblub | if it's a bug in the documentation, you may want to report it to the bugtracker |
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| 06:17.11 | LiDaR | its a bug thats been there for like 8 years or longer |
| 06:17.59 | blubberdiblub | well, a bug is a bug, no matter how long it has been around, IMHO |
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| 06:33.57 | Morteza | Devastator: After update , I have that error again |
| 06:34.24 | Devastator | Morteza what mirror? |
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| 06:34.33 | Devastator | how is your sources.list? |
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| 06:35.16 | Morteza | Devastator: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy ... |
| 06:35.39 | Morteza | Devastator: I havn't any error in updating , I have error in installing package |
| 06:35.50 | Devastator | can you take a snapshot of sources.list? |
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| 06:36.59 | Devastator | Morteza also, is this a fresh install? when this issue first started? |
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| 06:39.29 | LiDaR | hi fikibok |
| 06:39.37 | fikibok | hi LiDaR :D |
| 06:39.50 | LiDaR | fikibok: the air is fresher in here! |
| 06:40.28 | LiDaR | fikibok: just be careful about which partititon is which might want to write it down even |
| 06:41.02 | Morteza | Devastator: yes |
| 06:41.07 | fikibok | LiDaR: yeah I guess :) Anyway, do I need to do something extra to make it work? I think Debian will reinstall grub and after that will grub see windows or do I have to add Windows manually? |
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| 06:41.43 | LiDaR | debian installer will add it |
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| 06:42.07 | LiDaR | fikibok: the debian installer can resize windows partititon too im sure |
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| 06:43.22 | fikibok | LiDaR: oh that's cool. I'll start working on installing it now, if I fail I'll come here and ask again. Thanks for your help |
| 06:43.44 | Morteza | Devastator: how to fix it ? |
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| 06:46.08 | Devastator | Morteza you answered yes, i asked 3 questions: 1- can you take a snapshot of sources.list? 2- is this a fresh install? 3- when this issue first started? |
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| 06:48.17 | Morteza | Devastator: I told you my sources.list content . my prev source list was local repository , but now I changed it |
| 06:48.40 | Devastator | you changed before or after apt-get update? |
| 06:49.23 | Morteza | Devastator: before |
| 06:49.56 | Devastator | Morteza s this a fresh install? when this issue first started? |
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| 06:50.21 | Devastator | appeared... |
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| 06:54.47 | Morteza | Devastator: no , I tried it later |
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| 07:05.31 | Devastator | Morteza sorry, i'm gonna grab a bite, but i'm sure someone will help you :) |
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| 07:07.36 | Morteza | Devastator: thank you :) |
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| 07:26.56 | texta | Ahoy there. |
| 07:27.00 | lasers | Okay. I'm trying to learn more about rxvt-unicode. Erm, I'm using this colorscheme for terminals, but I'd like to use different colorscheme for irc. How is that usually done? |
| 07:27.25 | texta | Anyone have a good way of putting disks to sleep after x amount of inactivity and then waking them back up when they need to be used (like in Windows)? |
| 07:28.11 | lasers | texta: hdparm? |
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| 07:28.34 | lasers | !#debian: |
| 07:28.59 | jpinx | Devastator: I'd hazard a guess that he's on a VM hosting service which doesn't play nicely with apt. I've had that in the past ;) |
| 07:29.59 | lasers | texta: "man hdparm" -- See option "-y/-Y" |
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| 07:52.12 | jelly-home | lasers: you might use -name to pick a second resource set when starting the terminal for irc |
| 07:53.09 | jelly-home | so it reads MyIrcTerm.* instead of URxvt.* from ~/.Xresources |
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| 07:59.05 | md_5 | why is ddebian-next on another irc net :( |
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| 07:59.16 | md_5 | anyone know when it will be out , 1 week or 2 months? |
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| 07:59.45 | jpinx | when it's ready ;) |
| 07:59.54 | jpinx | !sns |
| 07:59.54 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
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| 08:01.00 | lasers | jelly-home: Thank you. The thought of "man rxvt-unicode" somehow escaped me. rxvt-unicode -bg black did the job. :) |
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| 08:01.49 | jelly-home | md_5: May 2013! |
| 08:01.52 | md_5 | jpinx :P I know I've been running wheezy for like about 9 months |
| 08:02.12 | md_5 | I want to know when its officially shiny, not because I actually care about usin git |
| 08:02.48 | md_5 | !moving target |
| 08:02.48 | dpkg | Sure, testing might be shinier than stable, but are you prepared to be continually updating your system? Things that worked today will break tomorrow. Configuration file formats will change and you'll have to fold your changes in yet again. Testing is a moving target and if you'd rather work *with* your computer than working *on* your computer, you might not want that. See <testing security>. |
| 08:03.06 | md_5 | hasn't broken my server yet |
| 08:03.22 | jelly-home | that's just a matter of time |
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| 08:04.09 | md_5 | jelly-home probably, I have about 200 un upgraded packages |
| 08:04.15 | vampirnata | Anyone familiar with the error: "ERROR: phase1 negotiation failed due to send error." when trying to create a VPN tunnel from a private lan to a public Juniper Netscreen firewall? |
| 08:04.37 | md_5 | vampirnata only in that networking setup? |
| 08:04.55 | md_5 | 177 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 22 not upgraded. |
| 08:04.56 | md_5 | Need to get 252 MB of archives. |
| 08:05.08 | jpinx | md_5: I guess it depends on how many bugs you reported and fixed ;) |
| 08:05.10 | md_5 | presses upgrade |
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| 08:05.45 | md_5 | jpinx to be honest I rarely get bugs on debian-headless.. |
| 08:05.50 | md_5 | pretty hard to get them |
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| 08:08.13 | md_5 | !help |
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| 08:11.12 | rgenito | hmm, i just inserted a USB key... how do i determine the device? |
| 08:11.22 | rgenito | i see in dmesg that the device was added... |
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| 08:12.13 | rgenito | any help would be greatly appreciated: http://pastie.org/private/jfp4s18s1453uuidmzw7a |
| 08:12.36 | rgenito | ...does this mean that the device is /dev/sdb* ? |
| 08:12.39 | md_5 | yes |
| 08:13.56 | rgenito | md_5: how do you know? |
| 08:14.00 | rgenito | or, how would i know from dmesg? |
| 08:14.22 | rgenito | by the fact that after it mentions scsi 13:0:0:0, it then mentions "sdb" ? |
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| 08:15.09 | blubberdiblub | rgenito, i'd go by the line saying: [26833.014067] sdb: sdb1 |
| 08:15.17 | blubberdiblub | rgenito, it also shows the detected partitions |
| 08:15.53 | rgenito | is the "sdb: sdb1" line the one that shows the detected partitions? |
| 08:15.58 | blubberdiblub | yes |
| 08:16.11 | rgenito | ty :) |
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| 08:16.27 | rgenito | are there ever any cases where dmesg is not helpful in determining the usb device's location? |
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| 08:17.19 | blubberdiblub | rgenito, if you need to automate it, use udev or some higher level interface, not the kernel log. the dmesg output is good if you need to read it yourself, tho ;) |
| 08:19.15 | rgenito | ya |
| 08:19.38 | rgenito | isn't fuse also used for automatically mounting usb storage devices? |
| 08:21.27 | jpinx | rgenito: not sure what exactly you're doing. If I plug in a usb device it pops up in the gui filemanager |
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| 08:21.39 | rgenito | jpinx: i'm running headless systems @_@ |
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| 08:22.46 | jpinx | rgenito: you can automate udev I believe |
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| 08:24.02 | rgenito | ty all for mentioning udev :) |
| 08:24.15 | blubberdiblub | rgenito, fuse is just filesystem in userspace. it has got nothing to do with reacting on kernel events. you can put up some udev rules or install a package that eases the task for you |
| 08:25.05 | blubberdiblub | rgenito, package "usbmount" comes to mind |
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| 08:25.38 | rgenito | blubberdiblub: yes, i know...i've developed with fuse in projects. |
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| 08:25.57 | CQ | how do I figure out what device dm-8 is? kernel: [2909817.186159] Buffer I/O error on device dm-8, logical block 9 |
| 08:26.11 | rgenito | i just know fuse is responsible for usb auto mounting in the linux world. and this "usbmount" you speak of? :D |
| 08:26.21 | rgenito | CQ eeps, good question =[ |
| 08:26.30 | ChrisH | CQ: should be /dev/md/8 |
| 08:26.42 | ChrisH | CQ... wait... |
| 08:26.56 | blubberdiblub | rgenito, no, fuse is not responsible for usb automounting |
| 08:26.58 | Sevet | CQ: try 'dmsetup ls' |
| 08:27.52 | blubberdiblub | rgenito, fuse may come into play if you've got an NTFS file system on your usb device, since ntfs-3g uses fuse |
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| 08:28.17 | rgenito | ...doesn't it come into play for all usb auto mounting? |
| 08:28.23 | rgenito | ahh ok |
| 08:29.42 | jpinx | rgenito: udev rools ;) |
| 08:29.48 | ChrisH | dmsetup info /dev/dm-8 |
| 08:30.00 | Sevet | CQ: eg on my system 'ls -l /dev/dm-0' shows it's 253,0 which 'dmsetup ls' shows is VolGroup00-LogVol00 |
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| 08:31.30 | Sevet | CQ: actually 'dmsetup info /dev/dm-8' would be simpler :) |
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| 08:45.38 | CQ | Sevet: thanks, that works |
| 08:48.46 | blast_hardcheese | So, kind of weird, I've got an autofs (nfs home) mount I've never seen before, doesn't show up in any logs |
| 08:49.28 | blast_hardcheese | there are a couple backtraces in dmesg, but nothing that matches the mounted name |
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| 08:50.10 | blast_hardcheese | Before I nuke my server from orbit, is there anything that could cause this? |
| 08:50.39 | blast_hardcheese | (rather, anything common or easily diagnosable? Obviously something can cause this) |
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| 08:53.26 | ChrisH | blast_hardcheese: autofs can betriggered via NIS.. does ypwhich show anything? |
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| 08:55.05 | blast_hardcheese | I don't have nis installed, could that still be a possibility? |
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| 08:56.22 | blubberdiblub | ldap, too. depends on the config of autofs, tho |
| 08:56.36 | blast_hardcheese | I'm using ldap, getent passwd doesn't show anything |
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| 08:59.40 | ChrisH | blast_hardcheese: can you pastebin the output from df -h ; mount ; cat /etc/mtab ? |
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| 09:01.26 | erlnoob | hi, just wondering why the PATH defined in /etc/environment isn't loaded/appended to my PATH? |
| 09:03.35 | blast_hardcheese | ChrisH: PM sent |
| 09:05.10 | erlnoob | it's loaded if I do `ssh host 'echo $PATH'` but not when I'm actually logged in interactively, any ideas? |
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| 09:06.48 | blubberdiblub | erlnoob, it gets overwritten in /etc/profile, ~/.profile, ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bashrc, /etc/bash.bashrc or similar. so set it in one of those files instead |
| 09:06.53 | blast_hardcheese | erlnoob: Is the PATH being reset by your shell's RC files? |
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| 09:08.53 | erlnoob | blast_hardcheese: from what i can tell, it's being appended (i.e, PATH="some/path:$PATH") in both .profile and .bashrc, but not overridden |
| 09:09.31 | erlnoob | it's a fresh install so I don't think I modified any of those files |
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| 09:10.08 | blubberdiblub | erlnoob, also take a look at /etc/login.defs. it might take precedence over /etc/environment (i don't know, tho, you gotta try it yourself) |
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| 09:12.35 | blubberdiblub | erlnoob, if you're referring to terminals started in your desktop environment, that might be normal tho and you might have to work around that by editing .bashrc |
| 09:13.21 | erlnoob | blubberdiblub: .profile or .bashrc for interactive terminals? |
| 09:13.59 | blubberdiblub | erlnoob, for non-login terminals (i.e. ones started by your desktop environment) it's .bashrc |
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| 09:43.12 | booto | Hi, as far as I can tell, this ( http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=671906 ) bug still occurs for mailing list digests. It seems to be a SmartList issue... is there any common workaround besides just sub'ing to the non-digest list instead of the digest one? |
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| 09:50.53 | rAd0n | hola |
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| 09:51.09 | forevernix | Hey guys! |
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| 09:51.36 | forevernix | I have 2 HDDs, the second one does not show up in the file manager, what's wrong? Thanks |
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| 09:54.51 | ChrisH | forevernix: does it show up in sudo lshw -short -C disk ? |
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| 09:56.12 | forevernix | ChrisH, Just noticed it shows up in File system/data |
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| 09:57.15 | forevernix | I thought it's supposed to show as a regular Drive |
| 09:57.23 | forevernix | like an usb flash or something |
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| 10:34.25 | Nunnsby | Hey all, a convert from Ubuntu |
| 10:34.51 | Nunnsby | q, how can I check on a server what services are set to start by default |
| 10:35.12 | Nunnsby | and secondly, a netstat show sunrpc running, what service is that? |
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| 10:35.29 | ChrisH | rpcbind/portmapper Port 111 |
| 10:35.45 | Nunnsby | thanks, is that similar to a windows rpc? |
| 10:35.53 | Nunnsby | as in for a secure server do I need it? |
| 10:36.12 | ChrisH | Nunnsby: similar Idea but different implementation, AFAIK |
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| 10:36.35 | Nunnsby | ok, so best to shut it down then, appreciated. I'll do some more research then. |
| 10:36.49 | Nunnsby | any idea on how to tell what is starting at boot by default? |
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| 10:37.46 | ChrisH | Nunnsby: ps? or ls /etc/rcX.d/S* ? |
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| 10:38.46 | Nunnsby | cool thanks |
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| 10:45.52 | onlylove | I tried to dial with a zte mf100 usb modem , but I only got Sep 4 04:24:07 localhost pppd[3900]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests |
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| 10:47.18 | Greek-Boy | How can I watch a live ssh session of a user on my server? I want to see exactly what they're seeing... |
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| 10:48.24 | ChrisH | Greek-Boy: Only idea I have is use a shared screen session. |
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| 10:50.03 | nsadmin | Greek-Boy, you'd need either acid, extacy or a frog and a moose |
| 10:50.26 | Greek-Boy | ChrisH: I usually do that (if the it's a co-operative session). But in this case I want to watch discreetly |
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| 10:51.27 | nsadmin | Greek-Boy, -never- tell any female that... |
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| 10:52.11 | ChrisH | Greek-Boy: despite the question wether is is illegal in your country. I have no idea. |
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| 10:56.35 | linuxuz3r | hi guys |
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| 10:59.28 | linuxuz3r | i have problem with gnome-shell |
| 10:59.40 | linuxuz3r | its laggy when you switch workspaces |
| 10:59.53 | linuxuz3r | does anyone know a fix |
| 11:00.00 | fleetfox | driver issue? |
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| 11:00.15 | fleetfox | your problaem is a bit too abstract |
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| 11:01.46 | linuxuz3r | i fixed it |
| 11:02.00 | linuxuz3r | installed an extension |
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| 11:06.46 | GuidoLamacchina | @ jelly-home, about the bad advice about LUKS and backup: http://pastebin.com/haeXtV35 |
| 11:06.53 | GuidoLamacchina | it is a SICK advice. LUKS backup on the /boot partition? seriously?!? /boot is *unencrypted*. Let say you then change the password, 'cause for some reasons it is no more a secure password .. Have you at least read the cryptsetup docs? i dont think so. The docs explain that after a password change the old backup could make access possible by using the old (burned) passphrase. So, what happens if such a backup was left on an unencrypted freely *acces |
| 11:07.00 | GuidoLamacchina | you haven't read official docs, jelly-home? Don't come crying . XD :P |
| 11:07.07 | GuidoLamacchina | @ jelly-home, about the bad advice about LUKS and backup: http://pastebin.com/haeXtV35Also it's very useful by you and some other users, to wait for me to disconnect to give me advice (i had to lurk through the logs to find that ridiculous 'advice' |
| 11:07.36 | GuidoLamacchina | (just for the logs) bye :P |
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| 11:12.26 | ChrisH | who jelly-home |
| 11:12.26 | jelly | I am so burned! |
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| 11:12.54 | ChrisH | still trying to understand that comment... |
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| 11:14.41 | jelly | someone found it necessary to debuke questionable advice I've given, one that would have left them vulnerable on a passphrase change |
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| 11:16.47 | shadok | jelly: don't you know you are responsible for everything you say here ? that's why you have to register with a real name, isn't it tru Mister J. Home ? |
| 11:17.20 | jelly | shadok: I _am_ registered with my real name. |
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| 11:21.27 | shadok | jelly: please don't trash my jokes :) |
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| 12:02.04 | SkAzZ | Can someone please tell me where I can find a manual of the partman "expert recipe" syntax? |
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| 12:17.09 | boudiccas | man partman? |
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| 12:35.52 | grandie | do i need a large MTA to us fetchmail, procmail and mutt? |
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| 12:36.57 | jelly | grandie: depending on the setup, you might not need a local MTA at all |
| 12:37.37 | jelly | mutt can send mail via remote smtp; I don't know whether fetchmail can be told to just invoke procmail as MDA directly |
| 12:38.25 | grandie | jelly: that's what i'm trying to figure out, used kmail and thunderbird in the past. |
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| 12:38.51 | jelly | why would you go back to mutt from a GUI client |
| 12:39.28 | jelly | kmail used to be too buggy to be usable last time I tried it... admittedly that was with kde 3.5 a few years ago |
| 12:39.43 | jelly | but thunderbird seems like a popular coice |
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| 12:39.47 | jelly | h |
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| 12:39.55 | Sevet | jelly: headless systems (eg a server through ssh) |
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| 12:40.29 | jelly | Sevet: you don't have to run your main mail client on a headless system |
| 12:40.47 | jelly | in fact, you kind of need a head to read stuff! |
| 12:40.48 | grandie | jelly: i'm just trying to get more into doing things be hand |
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| 12:41.34 | boudiccas | grandie: you could use 'mail' from the commandline to read your mail |
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| 12:41.37 | grandie | don't have the flow of mail i had when i was working. |
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| 12:41.51 | specing | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:41.56 | specing | yup it can |
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| 12:42.40 | grandie | so i don't need exim or whatever sitting in the background than? |
| 12:42.48 | specing | no |
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| 12:43.10 | specing | I use fetchmail -> procmail -> mutt -> nbsmtp |
| 12:43.44 | grandie | nbsmtp it was told to use ssmtp |
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| 12:44.17 | specing | This is on my main machine (Gentoo) |
| 12:44.37 | babilen | grandie: It would still make sense to have a MTA for delivery of local mail though. See also "/msg dpkg why a mta" -- I just use msmtp with mutt to make it easier to switch between different mail accounts (with muttprofile) |
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| 12:45.41 | grandie | babilen: local mail, as in system messages? |
| 12:45.55 | babilen | exactly |
| 12:46.00 | SkAzZ | boudiccas: partman is not in my debian squeeze install.. and I can't apt-get it |
| 12:46.46 | grandie | babilen: so i guess i still need exim or postfix then? |
| 12:47.11 | babilen | grandie: A MTA is installed by default -- you can switch to postfix if you don't like exim4 and it really doesn't have to listen to network ports. |
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| 12:47.29 | babilen | grandie: Why would you want to remove it? |
| 12:48.21 | grandie | babilen: exim is installed as you said, i was just wondering it i could do away with it |
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| 12:49.25 | grandie | babilen: i guess to cut down on things running in the background, wasn't sure i need one or not?? |
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| 12:53.32 | babilen | grandie: I wouldn't remove it as a bunch of daemons or programs will send you mail (cron, apt-{listbugs,listchanges}, at, ...) that you would miss. postfix uses almost no resources on my box, but what kind of hardware are you running on? Do you have performance problems that might be mitigated by removing exim4? |
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| 12:55.39 | grandie | babilen: no performance problems that i know of, looks like i need to do some more reading first, thanks. |
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| 12:57.52 | grandie | thanks all, it's time to go, later! |
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| 12:58.06 | PigDude | hi, how can i install spidermonkey js 1.8.5 on my server? |
| 12:58.15 | PigDude | is there a debian package for this? |
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| 12:58.31 | PigDude | i am running on stable, 1.8.0 :P |
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| 13:05.18 | jacklw | Hej what's the command to format a USB stick (dd)? |
| 13:05.28 | babilen | ,info libmozjs185-1.0 --release sid |
| 13:05.29 | judd | Package libmozjs185-1.0 (libs, optional) in sid/i386: Spidermonkey javascript engine. Version: 1.8.5-1.0.0+dfsg-3.1; Size: 1328.4k; Installed: 3369k; Homepage: http://www.mozilla.org/js/spidermonkey/ |
| 13:05.40 | babilen | PigDude: Are you referring to this ^^^ ? |
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| 13:06.52 | babilen | PigDude: There are a number of other spidermonkey related packages, but search for "spidermonkey" yourself on http://packages.debian.org (search in "stable" and "unstable") |
| 13:07.31 | babilen | jacklw: What do you mean exactly by "format" ? Do you want to delete data on it? Do you want to create a filesystem? (which?) ... |
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| 13:27.55 | wilfredor | Hi |
| 13:27.56 | wilfredor | I would like to know alternatives IDJC, someone knows? |
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| 13:31.40 | Aha2Y | My mysql socket on debian is broken, its keeps telling me, Cannot connect to mysql server. but there is a mysql server running ;_; |
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| 13:40.57 | PigDude | hm ok babilen |
| 13:41.09 | PigDude | how do i install a sid package like that in my stable installation? |
| 13:41.26 | PigDude | honestly i wanted to just build from source but i couldn't get js-1.8.5 to build |
| 13:41.29 | PigDude | (autoconf fails) |
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| 13:42.34 | PigDude | ah nevermind i got to build w/ src :^) |
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| 13:48.51 | ChogyDan | so, anyone know what the deal is with chromium-browser? Im from Ubuntu-land, but it looks like it is outdated in debian as well |
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| 14:15.09 | mads- | If I want to create a file, but I don't know whether the path exists, is there then a parameter like mkdirs -p I can use for touch? |
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| 14:19.56 | daimrod | mkdir -p $(dirname $filename) && touch $filename ? |
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| 14:25.26 | jhutchins_wk | daimrod: You might ask in #bash but I think you need to create the directory seperately. |
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| 14:39.31 | ispirto | hello, about debian partition recipe, there are 3 numbers forexample: 500 10000 1000000000 ext3 |
| 14:39.35 | ispirto | the first is the minimum |
| 14:39.39 | ispirto | last is the maximum |
| 14:39.44 | ispirto | what's the one in the middle |
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| 14:42.22 | SkAzZ | ispirto: I would like to know that too |
| 14:42.43 | SkAzZ | I cant find anything that shows the syntax of the expert recipe |
| 14:42.57 | SkAzZ | short of finding the source code anyway.. |
| 14:43.00 | ispirto | another poorly documented feature |
| 14:43.51 | ispirto | debian still doesn't work with kickstart, right? |
| 14:44.25 | SkAzZ | Debian has its own with the preseed file |
| 14:44.31 | shadok | ispirto: SkAzZ minimum size - priority (lower is higher priority) - maximum size |
| 14:44.54 | ispirto | shadok, what do you mean by priority? |
| 14:44.59 | ispirto | for maximum size? |
| 14:45.15 | SkAzZ | probably vs other pratitions? |
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| 14:45.25 | SkAzZ | partitions* |
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| 14:45.51 | shadok | the term i read here is: " the priority that this partition gets it’s maximum size fulfilled" I think i'll test a few time before boasting I really know what it does :p |
| 14:45.56 | shadok | src: http://cptyesterday.wordpress.com/2012/06/17/notes-on-using-expert_recipe-in-debianubuntu-preseed-files/ |
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| 14:47.51 | ispirto | shadok, got it thank you |
| 14:48.12 | shadok | np but i think you now understand it better than I am :p |
| 14:48.19 | ispirto | :) |
| 14:48.38 | ispirto | also wondering if there is a way to define partitions by the disk |
| 14:48.55 | ispirto | there must be |
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| 14:49.11 | ispirto | ah, i'll do the export thing from installed debian and i'll see myself |
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| 14:52.10 | shadok | ispirto: do you have the command to generate a preseed file from an installed debian ? |
| 14:52.28 | ispirto | shadok, http://pthree.org/2008/05/20/automating-debianubuntu-installs-with-preseed/ |
| 14:52.53 | shadok | ispirto: great! thank you :) |
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| 15:05.04 | ispirto | shadok, did you do that? |
| 15:05.10 | ispirto | i did and got a ridiculus file lol |
| 15:05.29 | shadok | ispirto: trying right know to check... |
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| 15:06.42 | shadok | ispirto: mine is great after the two commands (didn't check between the two commands though) |
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| 15:09.05 | ispirto | shadok, can you see the partition configuration |
| 15:09.26 | ariqs | what is the advantage to the dvd iso over the cd image iso? |
| 15:09.55 | Zharf | is someone still using optical media these days? o.O |
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| 15:12.02 | shadok | ispirto: i see many partition-related lines but i can't find my partition scheme in here |
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| 15:13.17 | ispirto | yeah me neither |
| 15:13.24 | ispirto | it doesn't show that values |
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| 15:19.42 | shadok | ispirto: i can't understand the way partition are define in my preseed file, at all |
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| 15:25.17 | soloman | ariqs, none. that i know of anyway. But I am just a user not dev |
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| 15:26.33 | soloman | most debian isos - when larger rather than smaller, give you the option to downlaod the extra packages, like gnome-desktop for instance. But they do not force you into it |
| 15:27.03 | soloman | so basically they are all very si8miliar not matter what iso you start with (in my experience) |
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| 15:27.25 | soloman | similar no matter what* |
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| 15:27.36 | shadok | ariqs: a dvd has a better read speed than a cd, if you have to use that, take the dvd iso, the install will be faster. |
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| 15:31.49 | ariqs | what is kfreebsd anyway? is that a cpu type? |
| 15:32.09 | ariqs | or is debian also freebsd? |
| 15:32.10 | ariqs | looks confused |
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| 15:33.13 | jordanm | ariqs: debian offers a kfreebsd kernel as an alternative to linux |
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| 15:33.35 | ariqs | weird |
| 15:34.12 | ariqs | thanks guys, laters |
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| 15:38.43 | mjessome | trying to run a java UI (netbeans) and it is showing up blank (ie. no ui elements). I have checked and I do not have a headless version of jdk installed. Anyone have any ideas? thanks |
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| 15:43.51 | umbo | ciao |
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| 15:44.03 | umbo | !list |
| 15:44.03 | dpkg | umbo: Debian è un sistema operativo composto di software libero non quella gratis. Vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per sapere di più. |
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| 15:46.32 | ahferroin7 | mjessome: it might be hanging between opening the window and populating the UI, I have had problems with that myself |
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| 15:49.37 | jonaskoelker | Hello all. My system hangs at boot on "[....] Setting up ALSA...". What gives? :| |
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| 15:54.49 | mjessome | ahferroin7: Have you ever found a way of fixing it? |
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| 15:57.23 | ahferroin7 | mjessome: no, largely because I only use netbeans because my CS classes require it, and it is not that much of an inconvenience to just restart it. |
| 15:58.42 | mjessome | ahferroin7: I've tried restarting many times, and still not showing :( |
| 15:58.48 | jordanm | jonaskoelker: boot into recovery mode, and try starting alsa-utils manually |
| 15:59.36 | ahferroin7 | mjessome: try using a different JDK/JRE, I know netbeans doesn't work consistently on GCJ for example |
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| 16:02.41 | mjessome | hmmm... I am using java-jdk1.6.0_35 |
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| 16:04.21 | n3lthon | ? |
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| 16:13.22 | jonaskoelker | jordanm: oops, looked away for a while and uninstalled alsa-utils while chrooted |
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| 16:13.59 | jonaskoelker | jordanm: now it boots into the command line with "btrfs fail to dirty inode <number> error -28" on the way. Any clues as to what might be going on? |
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| 16:28.21 | ispirto | anyone knows if there is a way to use two harddisks with preseed? |
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| 16:32.16 | TheWarden | Hi, I had RDP setup on my server to remote in for those that need a GUI but for some reason it stopped working. Any ideas what I can do to fix this? I installed xrdp. |
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| 16:33.10 | TheWarden | I can connect to the server and it prompts for login but I can never login successfully. |
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| 16:35.29 | blubberdiblub | you should probably specify if it's rdp that prompts for login or if you actually get a graphical display and your display manager is prompting for a login |
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| 16:40.25 | TheWarden | well it comes up with a graphical display and says login to xrdp, module sesman-xvnx, then it asks for username and password. |
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| 16:41.15 | TheWarden | I type in a username and password that is valid and it shows a connection log dialog saying connecting to sesman ip 127.0.0.1 port 3350. It just sits there until I click Ok and it then takes me back to the prompt to login. |
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| 16:41.41 | blubberdiblub | ah, i see, so xrdp acts kinda like a display manager on its own |
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| 16:43.18 | demonax | Hello, Evolution is not connecting to email servers / internet. No problem connecting with iceweasel. |
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| 16:44.48 | TheWarden | blubberdiblub: it appears so |
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| 16:45.19 | KOJIbKA | Running Lenny on NAS. Experienced synthax error while removing directory. Only way to access this machine is to use <ssh>. But it seems to remove directory is not common operation. What to do in such a case - see pastebin http://paste.debian.net/187759/ . Question is how to remove or rename this folder which was named not properely? |
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| 16:46.14 | Sevet | rmdir "(Folder01) Photo" |
| 16:46.32 | Sevet | and consider updating to squeeze - lenny is end of life |
| 16:46.38 | TheWarden | I also have vino installed |
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| 16:47.47 | jordanm | Sevet: looks like it might be worse than that. The pastebin makes it appear that there is also whitespace at the end of the filename |
| 16:48.09 | Sevet | then rmdir "(Folder01) Photo " |
| 16:48.11 | jordanm | (or non-printable characters) |
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| 16:48.48 | blubberdiblub | rmdir "(Folder01) Photo"* should do the trick then, no matter what is at the end |
| 16:49.03 | majoran | rmdir * |
| 16:49.20 | majoran | because fsck your characters |
| 16:49.34 | Sevet | or "rmdir ./\(<tab>" and tab completion should escape the filename for you |
| 16:49.47 | TheWarden | man this is frustrating I can't find any information on this online thus far and can't figure out why this is not working. I swear all I did was set some settings in remote desktop and installed vino server. My other installs work fine but not on this box. It just stopped working. |
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| 16:50.14 | KOJIbKA | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:52.10 | JoeHazzers | why on earth does setting dc_localdelivery="maildir_home" have no effect in exim4? |
| 16:52.18 | JoeHazzers | even after running update-exim4.conf |
| 16:53.58 | Sevet | KOJIbKA: quick explanation on why 'rmdir (Folder01) Photo' didn't work... 1) that's 2 filenames (space separated) and 2) () is shell script syntax for 'run the command' within the brackets in a subshell, in that usage that wasn't a valid use of them hence the unexpected token error. you need to escape special characters such as () and whitespace, or enclose it all in quotes |
| 16:55.06 | KOJIbKA | Sevet: blubberdiblub: the problem is directory is not empty and shell comes back with 'rmdir: failed to remove `(Folder01) Photo(BD-Company)': Directory not empty' |
| 16:55.23 | majoran | then use 'rm -r' instead of 'rmdir' |
| 16:55.29 | jordanm | Sevet: I am pretty use its 3) there was whitespace or non-printable characters at the end of the filename |
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| 16:56.21 | TheWarden | I guess SSH will have to do, no problem for me but not good for others. Can't seem to get this xrdp to work and VNC is not working either. argh, |
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| 16:56.29 | Sevet | jodanm: there's that too, but without whitespace the command would have still failed |
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| 16:57.05 | KOJIbKA | majoran: well that worked out! |
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| 16:57.18 | KOJIbKA | end of story, thanks! |
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| 16:57.36 | blubberdiblub | JoeHazzers, maybe you need to restart exim? also, you can "grep LOCAL_DELIVERY /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated" to check if your change got really incorporated into the config file that exim finally uses |
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| 17:00.21 | JoeHazzers | blubberdiblub: i have the .ifndef LOCAL_DELIVERY' LOCALDELIVERY=maildir_home bit, but it's still using procmail_pipe for delivery |
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| 17:01.31 | blubberdiblub | JoeHazzers, oh, procmail. i don't use procmail here. maybe a dpkg-reconfigure procmail does the trick? |
| 17:01.48 | JoeHazzers | blubberdiblub: but what i don't get is *why* procmail is being used |
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| 17:02.34 | blubberdiblub | JoeHazzers, because it was installed and configured so. i think it asks in its debconf questions for it when installed (if on a sufficiently low minimum question priority) |
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| 17:04.10 | aschuring | anyone know prebuilt rt kernels for wheezy? or should I just take the 3.2-rt patch and apply it myself |
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| 17:10.20 | Sevet | ,v linux-image-3.2.0-3-rt-amd64 |
| 17:10.21 | judd | No package named 'linux-image-3.2.0-3-rt-amd64' was found in i386. |
| 17:10.57 | Sevet | ,v linux-image-3.2.0-3-rt-amd64 --arch amd64 |
| 17:10.58 | judd | Package: linux-image-3.2.0-3-rt-amd64 on amd64 -- sid: 3.2.23-1; wheezy: 3.2.23-1 |
| 17:11.06 | Sevet | aschuring ^^ |
| 17:11.11 | aschuring | ah... :) |
| 17:11.25 | aschuring | that's easy ;) |
| 17:12.07 | Sevet | linux-image-rt-amd64 would be the one to install, which'll install the latest version |
| 17:12.28 | aschuring | yes I see... |
| 17:12.38 | aschuring | thanks |
| 17:12.51 | aschuring | I did search for linux-rt but failed to search further |
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| 17:14.35 | tremon | reminds himself not to start his irc client twice |
| 17:14.47 | tremon | Sevet: thanks again :) |
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| 17:16.39 | demonax | Hello, Evolution is not connecting to email servers / internet. No problem connecting with Iceweasel. Any insight would be appreciated. |
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| 17:23.18 | tremon | demonax: using squeeze or wheezy? |
| 17:23.34 | demonax | squeeze 6.05 |
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| 17:24.56 | tremon | hmm... don't know of any issues in squeeze. Can you find a status somewhere, does evolution think it's in offline mode perhaps |
| 17:25.09 | tremon | (that would be a wheezy bug, but it never hurts to check) |
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| 17:29.12 | demonax | ran evolution --online from shell. The response was Network Disconnected, Forced offline. Perhaps NetworkManager is not working? |
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| 17:29.32 | nathanhi | g'day \o/ |
| 17:29.59 | nathanhi | i've got a little problem with my fresh debian (sid/wheezy) install |
| 17:30.25 | nathanhi | i've installed it on btrfs ontop of an luks/dm-crypt encrypted partition |
| 17:30.25 | tremon | I didn't think the evolution in squeeze would rely on network-manager |
| 17:30.48 | nathanhi | and IO is incredibly slow |
| 17:31.10 | nathanhi | the system takes about ~7 minutes to boot (c2d, 3gb ram) |
| 17:31.16 | tremon | but yes, that would be the exact bug that I had thought was wheezy-only: if network-manager isn't managing your interface, nm-enabled programs tend to assume you're offline |
| 17:31.25 | jordanm | nathanhi: are you using brtfs raid features? |
| 17:31.27 | nathanhi | nope |
| 17:31.40 | nathanhi | only lzo compression, but i even disabled this |
| 17:31.57 | nathanhi | *disabled even this |
| 17:32.00 | tremon | nathanhi: did you tell btrfs not to use raid features (-m single I believe) |
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| 17:32.14 | nathanhi | -m single? |
| 17:32.24 | tremon | hold on... |
| 17:32.24 | nathanhi | as a mount option? |
| 17:32.30 | tremon | no, mkfs option |
| 17:33.24 | demonax | What groups must the user need to belong to such that the email client Evolution is connected? |
| 17:33.42 | nathanhi | tremon, ah.. i upgraded my ext4 to btrfs.. so i didn't pass any options while creating the fs |
| 17:33.45 | tremon | not sure of its impact, but I've had issues with btrfs on lvm if I didn't specify -m single |
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| 17:34.08 | mjessome | so it's looking like I need to switch to a 32-bit debian from a 64-bit. Is there any way to do an in-place swap without the need for reformatting and losing my settings? |
| 17:34.30 | tremon | nathanhi: it could be that, but I'm nowhere near a btrfs expert. Maybe #linux knows more? |
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| 17:34.52 | nathanhi | it's worth a try, thx tremon |
| 17:35.34 | demonax | (sorry, re-phrase) What groups must the user belong to such that the email client Evolution is connected? |
| 17:35.38 | tremon | demonax: you shouldn't need any groups for that, but i don't use evolution |
| 17:35.41 | blink | Hi, I am having unmet dependency issues when installing request-tracker4 from backports on 6.0.5 and looking for ideas -> http://pastebin.com/kCJnE3dx |
| 17:36.16 | tremon | demonax: https://live.gnome.org/Evolution/FAQ#Why_is_Evolution_offline_when_my_net_connection_is_working.3F ? |
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| 17:36.59 | tremon | "The solution is to configure NM to manage your network interface" <-- what a perfect non-solution btw |
| 17:38.15 | tremon | if gnome was a commercial product, people would be screaming "vendor lock-in" |
| 17:39.43 | tremon | blink: paste apt-cache policy and apt-cache policy request-racker4 (sic?) |
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| 17:40.42 | tremon | blink: you may need -t backports to force dependency resolution from backports too |
| 17:40.43 | demonax | tremon: agreed! I'm reading the NetworkManager man. However, I wish I had more insight. |
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| 17:41.20 | tremon | me too :) |
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| 17:42.02 | blink | tremon: http://pastebin.com/1bq1Fpb4 |
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| 17:44.30 | tremon | blink: all of the unresolved dependencies have versions in backports that do satisfy the requirements. Try apt-get -t squeeze-backports install request-tracker4 |
| 17:44.43 | demonax | tremon: thank you kindly, I'll attack this and return with feedback. |
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| 17:49.37 | WaterRatj | Is it possible to change timezone for a certain user on a shell? without changing the system time? |
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| 17:51.26 | tremon | WaterRatj: export TZ=timezone-spec |
| 17:51.40 | WaterRatj | so won't change system time eh? |
| 17:52.02 | WaterRatj | found out that it reset when i logout of my shell, there a way to have it always exported? |
| 17:52.04 | tremon | it will only change the time representation, not the clock (only root can do that) |
| 17:52.23 | tremon | /etc/environment, for example |
| 17:52.31 | tremon | or dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (I guess, haven't tested) |
| 17:52.57 | blubberdiblub | if he only wants to have it for specific users, it's better to use ~/.profile |
| 17:53.14 | tremon | ah yes, misread the question |
| 17:53.22 | tremon | WaterRatj, what blub says |
| 17:53.31 | blink | tremon: after running `apt-get install -t squeeze-backports rt4-apache2 request-tracker4`, the remaining error is for libplack-perl; it's the only remaining unsatisfied dependency |
| 17:53.37 | WaterRatj | so add the line in the file ~/.profile |
| 17:53.43 | tremon | ,v libplack-perl |
| 17:53.44 | judd | Package: libplack-perl on i386 -- squeeze: 0.9941-1; squeeze-backports: 0.9986-1~bpo60+1; sid: 0.9989-1; wheezy: 0.9989-1 |
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| 17:54.14 | blink | request-tracker4 : Depends: libplack-perl (>= 0.9971) but it is not going to be installed |
| 17:54.29 | tremon | blink: that's odd, backports should have version 0.9986 |
| 17:54.34 | blink | that is seriously weird. it went from being wrong version to not installed at all |
| 17:54.49 | tremon | maybe re-run apt-get update? |
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| 17:55.13 | blink | nah, still same error |
| 17:56.01 | tremon | hmm... and if you explicitly try to install libplack-perl from backports? |
| 17:56.28 | tremon | maybe there's an unresolved dependency lurking underneath |
| 17:56.48 | blink | i will explicitly define all the dependant packages at install time now. |
| 17:56.51 | tremon | notes that this is usually where he abandons apt and asks aptitude |
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| 17:57.31 | blink | ` libplack-perl : Depends: liburi-perl (< 1.57) but 1.60-1~bpo60+1 is to be installed` you may be right in the aptitude idea |
| 17:58.08 | tremon | ,v liburi-perl |
| 17:58.09 | judd | Package: liburi-perl on i386 -- lenny: 1.35.dfsg.1-1; lenny-backports: 1.37+dfsg-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1.54-2; squeeze-backports: 1.60-1~bpo60+1; sid: 1.60-1; wheezy: 1.60-1 |
| 17:58.50 | tremon | blink: you may try to explicitly install liburi from squeeze: apt-get install -t squeeze-backports request-tracker4 liburi-perl/squeeze |
| 17:59.07 | tremon | but if there are more surprises, I would choose aptitude |
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| 17:59.24 | blink | so, i am using aptitude interactively now, same dependency issue (4 highlighted in red, same as the ones from before) |
| 17:59.31 | blink | never used this with backports though |
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| 18:00.00 | blink | this isn't a broken package though is it? is it my install that's borked or the package from backport? |
| 18:00.09 | dondelelcaro | blink: it looks like that's a bug in that backport package |
| 18:00.17 | tremon | the package from backports is broken |
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| 18:00.24 | blink | aw, ok I will look at the bug report |
| 18:00.27 | dondelelcaro | blink: presumably someone decided that you should only have liburi-perl that is in squeeze |
| 18:00.28 | blink | thanks for your help guys |
| 18:00.36 | tremon | well, it conflicts with another package from backports at least |
| 18:00.45 | dondelelcaro | blink: so if you install the liburi-perl that is from squeeze, then you should be ok. |
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| 18:01.33 | blink | dondelelcaro: indeed. installing 207 packages now :) |
| 18:02.34 | dondelelcaro | (just guessing, it's most likely some kind of liburi-perl api incompatibility, which they patched around for the backport, but didn't want people randomly getting subjected to) |
| 18:03.00 | dondelelcaro | probably before liburi-perl was even backported, if I was to guess |
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| 18:05.06 | lidar | hi |
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| 18:07.27 | polyurethane | I think my Debian version is old, it's all laggy and stuff, my uname a: 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 |
| 18:07.34 | polyurethane | Is it old or is it the newest? |
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| 18:09.09 | jelly-home | !debian suite |
| 18:09.09 | dpkg | cat /etc/debian_version (or lsb_release -sc). Or check /etc/apt/sources.list. If unsure about the distribution, $ cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} should grab almost all distributions. |
| 18:09.30 | jelly-home | polyurethane: what does that cat command say? |
| 18:09.34 | polyurethane | hmm it's 6.0.5, I wonder why I am lagging |
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| 18:09.42 | polyurethane | it's not exactly lagging, but it's sloppy |
| 18:09.52 | gnarface | bets its the 30x.xx nvidia drivers |
| 18:10.04 | polyurethane | yeah I have nvidia drivers |
| 18:10.14 | polyurethane | a dell computer, lol |
| 18:10.18 | jelly-home | polyurethane: install linux-image-amd64 |
| 18:10.26 | jordanm | polyurethane: what exactly is laggy? |
| 18:10.32 | streuner__ | is searching for the nivdiasmite |
| 18:10.39 | gnarface | jelly-home: wait, he's probably running a backport kernel for a reason... |
| 18:10.43 | jelly-home | and linux-headers-amd64, since you're probably going to need them to build the nvidia shim |
| 18:10.53 | polyurethane | apt-get install install linux-image-amd64? |
| 18:10.59 | jelly-home | gnarface: and he won't lose it by installing the current one |
| 18:11.12 | jelly-home | polyurethane: one "install" please |
| 18:11.24 | polyurethane | sorry, I Know one install |
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| 18:11.45 | blink | all installed and working thanks again don and tremon |
| 18:12.07 | jordanm | polyurethane: nvidia-settings -a InitialPixmapPlacement=0 # assuming your drivers are already installed |
| 18:12.17 | jordanm | and your having issues with the proprietary drivers |
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| 18:14.00 | polyurethane | hmm, alright, thanks :) |
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| 18:22.06 | mcgreg | hi |
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| 18:22.58 | mcgreg | is there any possibility to run debian (natively) on a asus transformer pad? |
| 18:23.46 | jelly-home | mcgreg: even if it were, don't bet your life on hardware being properly supported |
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| 18:24.35 | lidar | mcgreg: that would be sweet |
| 18:24.50 | mcgreg | jelly-home: honestly I'd much rather like to see debian on it instead of android. |
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| 18:26.08 | jelly-home | mcgreg: eg. a different distro http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/ASUS_Eee_Pad_Transformer/How_to_install_Ubuntu |
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| 18:31.34 | mcgreg | jelly-home: nice link, thx. I'll consider dont this. I'vew bought the Asus transformer infinity - though I'm not sure if I'll keep it. |
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| 18:32.13 | mcgreg | for me it's "too different" from a desktop computer and it's lacking so many features ... |
| 18:33.00 | gnarface | features? we don't need not stinking features |
| 18:33.32 | jelly-home | mcgreg: arm != x86, do not expect any kind of hardware support for linux unless it's both explicitely supported by the vendor and confirmed by third parties to work |
| 18:33.54 | jelly-home | (the second hint is: android is not linux) |
| 18:34.00 | gnarface | well, to be honest that goes for x86 too |
| 18:34.07 | gnarface | or any arch with linux |
| 18:34.10 | gnarface | maybe just more so with arm |
| 18:34.15 | gnarface | (for now) |
| 18:34.23 | gnarface | raspberry pi is gonna change it |
| 18:34.36 | jelly-home | not really. |
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| 18:34.40 | streuner__ | please, be cool... |
| 18:34.54 | streuner__ | otherweise, you are just rude |
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| 18:35.10 | genoskill | where can I see the date when packages were installed? |
| 18:35.20 | streuner__ | genoskill: dpkg.log |
| 18:35.25 | jelly-home | gnarface: that's a single arm platform out of hundreds, an old one and with less than optimal open source approach |
| 18:35.39 | streuner__ | genoskill: /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 18:37.01 | genoskill | streuner__, thanks. is there any other file? |
| 18:37.04 | mcgreg | jelly-home: actually android is linux ... it clearly uses the linux kernel :) |
| 18:37.17 | streuner__ | genoskill: no, not that i know of any |
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| 18:37.47 | jelly-home | mcgreg: that's not enough to be called a linux os |
| 18:39.00 | streuner__ | genoskill: why do you asking about a second alternative |
| 18:39.24 | streuner__ | genoskill: why isnt dpkg.log not enough for you? |
| 18:39.32 | kesroesweyth | jelly-home what else is there? |
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| 18:41.19 | jelly-home | kesroesweyth: -> #debian-offtopic |
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| 18:43.03 | gabesubdo | I have a file that gives a different md5sum every time I checksum it. how concerned should I be? |
| 18:43.24 | streuner__ | you should |
| 18:43.38 | genoskill | streuner__, it is enough. I asked because of lack of knowledge |
| 18:43.49 | streuner__ | genoskill: ok |
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| 18:44.54 | streuner__ | gabesubdo: what kind of file are you talking about? |
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| 18:45.01 | gabesubdo | a 1GB ISO file |
| 18:45.18 | streuner__ | hm |
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| 18:45.52 | streuner__ | so, its not not a Debian iso? ;-) |
| 18:46.21 | gabesubdo | heh, no |
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| 18:46.31 | streuner__ | good luck then :-P |
| 18:47.00 | gabesubdo | allow me to rephrase my question |
| 18:47.11 | gabesubdo | help, my filesystem is fucked! what is the appropriate level of freaking out? |
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| 18:49.14 | tremon | gabesubdo: depends. do you have backups? |
| 18:49.14 | majoran | 5 |
| 18:49.28 | gabesubdo | only of the important stuff |
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| 18:50.25 | tremon | and the iso is not being written to? |
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| 18:50.50 | gabesubdo | correct |
| 18:51.04 | gabesubdo | I'm currently trying to figure out how to unmount /home so I can run fsck on it |
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| 18:51.32 | streuner__ | insane |
| 18:51.41 | tremon | you can unmount home only if you login as root, and have no other users logged in |
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| 18:51.56 | gabesubdo | I've done that :/ |
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| 18:52.07 | majoran | easy, do a hard reboot and watch all devices getting fsck'd |
| 18:52.09 | gabesubdo | just root logged in directly, lsof shows nothing using it, but I still get "device is busy" |
| 18:52.11 | tremon | lsof +D /home |
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| 18:52.28 | staykov | hey, what is the recommended way of getting sun java in browser on wheezy ? |
| 18:52.45 | streuner__ | staykov: shoot yourself |
| 18:52.45 | majoran | I thought the recommended way was to not let java into your browser |
| 18:52.55 | majoran | (also, it's not "sun" anymore) |
| 18:52.58 | staykov | streuner__: assuming that wasnt ab option :( |
| 18:53.07 | tremon | majoran: but oracle patched it! |
| 18:53.07 | staykov | an* |
| 18:53.14 | streuner__ | staykov: /msg dpkg java |
| 18:53.20 | staykov | i need it for webex |
| 18:53.22 | majoran | tremon: didn't that open a new hole? |
| 18:53.33 | tremon | not that we know of |
| 18:53.37 | wolfric | does debootstrap rely on the scripts to install different architectures? |
| 18:53.50 | majoran | tremon: how much are you willing to bet? |
| 18:53.52 | wolfric | different distro versions* |
| 18:53.59 | staykov | ok cool thanks streuner__ |
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| 18:54.16 | streuner__ | staykov: java is just a PITA nowadays |
| 18:54.25 | tremon | majoran: that we know of no current holes in 7u7 or that there are none? |
| 18:54.32 | gabesubdo | sits and twiddles thumbs while waiting for lsof +D /home |
| 18:54.35 | wolfric | like i notice in /usr/share/debootstrap there's a scripts dir with names for all the versions |
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| 18:55.25 | majoran | http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Latest-Java-sandbox-is-still-vulnerable-1697550.html |
| 18:55.30 | streuner__ | staykov: java is just a PITA, specially if you need the newest version... |
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| 18:56.17 | staykov | streuner__: according to the webex site sun java 5 is whats required, so im hoping icedtea-plugin works |
| 18:56.17 | tremon | majoran: oooohhhh... what a surprise. they blocked the known exploits, but didn't fix the hole |
| 18:56.40 | tremon | thx, didn't know that (but it's offtopic here, btw) |
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| 19:11.15 | streuner__ | jelly-home: mpg321 http://87.230.55.91:7592/ |
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| 19:11.46 | streuner__ | jelly-home: lex Oriental Experience - Kismet |
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| 19:13.11 | witheld | Is there a way to uninstall/purge everything but 'essential' packages? |
| 19:13.17 | jelly-home | streuner__: could you use #debian-offtopic for Now Playing? |
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| 19:13.53 | streuner__ | jelly-home: NO, dont ask about it again please |
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| 19:14.05 | streuner__ | witheld: thats insane |
| 19:14.28 | tremon | witheld: aptitude purge '~i!~E' |
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| 19:14.44 | themill | dpkg: tell witheld about uninstall everything |
| 19:14.49 | streuner__ | witheld: if you want purge/uninstall essential packages... |
| 19:14.51 | jelly-home | streuner__: I will if you don't link me to the station in here! |
| 19:14.55 | themill | (you want to keep things more than Essential) |
| 19:15.06 | witheld | tremon, themill thank you |
| 19:15.19 | streuner__ | jelly-home: ok |
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| 19:16.31 | tremon | witheld: note that 'essential' has a very specific meaning on a debian system, and that you're better off following dpkg |
| 19:16.47 | witheld | tremon: I planned to, thank you |
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| 19:16.52 | tremon | ok :) |
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| 19:22.31 | wolfric | what packages would get the most benifit from being built for 64 bit systems? |
| 19:22.55 | wolfric | not including the obvious ones that might actually use more than 4 gigs of ram |
| 19:22.57 | jordanm | ones that could use more than 3GB of RAM in a single process eg - mysql-server |
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| 19:23.17 | tremon | wolfric: the ones that you would actually want to run on said system? |
| 19:23.18 | wolfric | that it? |
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| 19:23.59 | wolfric | well you should be able to run bins built for 32 bit with a 64 bit os right? |
| 19:24.02 | tremon | I suspect most of what you're asking can be answered by googling for the linux x32 abi |
| 19:24.29 | tremon | only with kernel support... |
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| 19:24.41 | jelly-home | wolfric: the answer is, "it depends" |
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| 19:25.27 | wolfric | ok so say i installed a 32 bit kernel and packages and then just installed a 64 bit one and booted into it, what then...? |
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| 19:25.41 | jelly-home | wolfric: it depends on the workload. The code paths taken. The cache lines wasted on larger code. The time saved with a better ABI and more general purpose registers. |
| 19:26.02 | jelly-home | wolfric: you'd have a 64bit kernel with a 32bit userspace. |
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| 19:26.41 | wolfric | right sorry i thought you were saying "it depends" to whether they'd all work or not as to my knowledge they should do no problem |
| 19:26.53 | tremon | wolfric: are we talking debian here? because then nothing would break as the debian kernel (as most distributions) has 32-bit support enabled |
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| 19:27.14 | wolfric | what about having 64 bit libraries then being called from 32 bit userspace programs... |
| 19:27.22 | jelly-home | wolfric: I wa refering to gaining benefit. Most userspace works well with both arches now. |
| 19:27.22 | wolfric | wouldn't that cause issues? |
| 19:27.29 | jelly-home | wolfric: that doesn't work. |
| 19:27.38 | wolfric | exactly... |
| 19:27.46 | wolfric | so then stuff would break right? |
| 19:28.04 | wolfric | or are the libraries named differently per 64 bit or 32 bit |
| 19:28.04 | tremon | no, it can't happen within debian |
| 19:28.09 | tremon | things would break before they would get installed |
| 19:28.10 | wolfric | so 64 bit packages would simply rely on the 64 bit library which would be installed side by side? |
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| 19:28.18 | tremon | could be, yes |
| 19:28.42 | tremon | assuming we're talking wheezy, not squeeze btw |
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| 19:29.01 | wolfric | but can they be installed side by side? last time i looked in any lib dir, i didn't see any indication of arch in the name so i'd assume one would overwrite the other or something |
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| 19:29.12 | wolfric | no real realease in mind, just general questions |
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| 19:29.26 | tremon | http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch |
| 19:29.55 | wolfric | thanks i'll have a read |
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| 19:30.20 | wolfric | funny enough when i had saw the term before on install cd, i just assumed it had the ability to install either arch depending on what was the best. |
| 19:30.48 | tremon | yes, that's true. The term has been used for that too |
| 19:31.19 | wolfric | oh right... |
| 19:31.22 | tremon | but multi- implies much more than just 32-bit and 64-bit intel/amd code |
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| 19:32.05 | nycjv321 | hey i'vebeen afk from y computer all day andjust gotback cpu is at 0% but my mouseis really stuttery... any reason why? |
| 19:32.08 | nycjv321 | my* |
| 19:32.24 | tremon | usb controller fell asleep? |
| 19:32.32 | Dr_LiDaR | nycjv321: usb power settings ? |
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| 19:32.51 | nycjv321 | its still stuttery how do i accessthose settings? |
| 19:32.55 | jelly-home | nycjv321: does "vmstat 1" show nonzero si or so columns? |
| 19:33.22 | tremon | ooh, good catch |
| 19:33.35 | nycjv321 | nope |
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| 19:33.45 | jelly-home | it's not swapping, then |
| 19:33.59 | tremon | nycjv321: i'd try disconnecting and reconnecting the mouse |
| 19:34.25 | nycjv321 | ah ok let me try that |
| 19:34.36 | nycjv321 | well yea i've made the switch to debian btw :D |
| 19:34.49 | nycjv321 | I used to use archlinux |
| 19:34.51 | tremon | congratulations and welcome |
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| 19:35.33 | nycjv321 | thanks!! I was using Arch religiously but after an update tanked my system... kinda decieded to try somthing else |
| 19:36.09 | nycjv321 | fedora didn't have the packages for some basic apps.. so I decieded to give Debian a shot after several failed attempts in the past |
| 19:36.15 | nycjv321 | my keyboard sems to be delayed as well |
| 19:36.31 | tremon | ah, but we have those on debian too. Stay away from testing and you shouldn't get hit by them |
| 19:36.36 | tremon | ;) |
| 19:36.55 | nycjv321 | haha |
| 19:37.08 | mallxs | looking for a install for a i7 but only see 32-bit for intell .. i'm i looking on the wrong page ? |
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| 19:37.22 | tremon | mallxs: you want amd64 |
| 19:37.23 | nycjv321 | mallxs: do amd64 |
| 19:37.29 | nycjv321 | dang beat me to it :P |
| 19:37.37 | tremon | !amd64 |
| 19:37.37 | dpkg | amd64 is the Debian architecture optimized for x86-64, aka AMD64. Intel Core 2, Core i3/i5/i7 and Xeon (since 2004) systems are x86-64. The AMD64 architecture also supports running Debian i386 with either a -686 or -amd64 kernel. See also <why amd64> and <why not amd64>. |
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| 19:38.26 | tintin | Is openoffice available as opensource? |
| 19:38.33 | tintin | Is openoffice available as opensource? |
| 19:38.39 | streuner__ | yes |
| 19:38.47 | tremon | http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ |
| 19:38.57 | tintin | I get this, ii openoffice.org-core 1:3.2.1-11+squeeze5 office productivity suite -- arch-dependent files |
| 19:39.13 | wolfric | tintin: what were you expecting? |
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| 19:39.32 | Dr_LiDaR | tintin: libreoffice is a fork thats really popular now |
| 19:39.49 | tintin | What is this openoffice debian is using? |
| 19:39.51 | tintin | http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ |
| 19:40.00 | tintin | That is apache openoffice |
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| 19:40.10 | majoran | wat |
| 19:40.16 | tremon | debian squeeze uses go-oo.org |
| 19:40.33 | nycjv321 | ok so the system is stil laggy for me |
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| 19:40.40 | tremon | tintin: apache is where open-source software goes to die after it has been killed by oracle |
| 19:40.47 | nycjv321 | as far as th moues ad keybouard I think I'm ging to resart |
| 19:40.50 | mallxs | tremon: i had the choice it was reading that the 8 core AMD was getting so very hot so i bought a intel this time, but as i read !amd64 i wil also can use the AMD64 installer on a intell ? correct ? |
| 19:40.55 | Dr_LiDaR | tintin: oracle bought sun .. openoffice was bioeng trashed so it was forked to libreoffice .. later on oracle decided to give openoffice away so apache took it over |
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| 19:41.23 | tremon | mallxs: yes, it's just that amd beat intel in the rush to 64-bit, so they got the name |
| 19:41.44 | mallxs | ok thx |
| 19:41.47 | tintin | Go-oo is obsoleted by LibreOffice |
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| 19:41.52 | tintin | http://go-oo.org/ |
| 19:41.59 | tremon | yes, as it says on the website |
| 19:42.20 | tremon | hence the next debian release will feature libreoffice instead. But what is your question? |
| 19:42.20 | i0x71 | hey, anyone know of a good how to that describes how to build a live cd from an existing install ? |
| 19:42.48 | tintin | I'm waiting for libreoffice. |
| 19:42.49 | i0x71 | i already looked into the live-build tool, however i want to learn the inner workings of building a live cd |
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| 19:43.11 | Dr_LiDaR | lol i think tintin is a clown |
| 19:43.30 | tremon | thinks dr_lidar is being generous |
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| 19:43.51 | tremon | i0x71: try #debian-boot on oftc, you might get better help there |
| 19:43.53 | Dr_LiDaR | i0x71: you want like a system restore image typoe of thing ? |
| 19:44.14 | Zharf | well, he is a reported, which is pretty much synonym for a clown |
| 19:44.15 | Dr_LiDaR | i0x71: or you want to just cutomize a live cd ? |
| 19:44.23 | makoto | hey, i've got two graphics cards and 3 monitors, and i'm having trouble getting Xorg to like them |
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| 19:45.00 | makoto | i've somehow managed to get 1 monitor up, and another one semi-up |
| 19:45.16 | makoto | as in, the drivers talking to it, but it doesn't seem to be in any kind of layout |
| 19:45.24 | makoto | i can move the mouse to it too, but not any windows |
| 19:45.25 | specing | All the time I took to setup a local mirror from debian DVDs when I discover half the packages were updated anyway ;_; |
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| 19:46.09 | tremon | makoto: two monitors on one card should be no problem, joining two cards in a single screen is harder |
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| 19:46.44 | specing | Well I guess I should just rsync all the 30Gb and be done with it... |
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| 19:47.41 | mallxs | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:49.44 | tremon | makoto: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/X.Org/Dual_Monitors#Multiple_Graphics_Cards |
| 19:49.50 | makoto | tremon: hmmm.... it'd be nice to just get the first card running to be honest but its startying the 2nd card |
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| 19:49.58 | makoto | ahh that's relevant to debian? |
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| 19:50.10 | tremon | well it all uses the same X.org :) |
| 19:50.29 | tremon | maybe not 1:1 applicable, but it should at least push you in the right direction |
| 19:50.40 | makoto | ahh ok |
| 19:50.41 | makoto | ty |
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| 19:51.27 | tremon | mallxs: dual-head is supported by all major drivers |
| 19:51.39 | specing | Is there somewhere where I could get old Release, Package.xxx and other files for ALL THE PACKAGES together (not seperate files for each DVD) from an 6.0.3 DVD release? |
| 19:52.02 | tremon | so as long as your card has multiple outputs, the choice is yours |
| 19:52.25 | tremon | specing: what reason is there to not use the 6.0.5 dvd's? |
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| 19:52.47 | tremon | (or packages) |
| 19:53.06 | specing | 10910/18299 packages to download... |
| 19:53.36 | tremon | why would you want to download them all? |
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| 19:54.10 | specing | because they are listed in 6.0.5 Release but are not present on my pool made from 5 6.0.3 DVDs |
| 19:54.46 | tremon | and why not use an internet mirror? |
| 19:56.07 | specing | because unneeded network load |
| 19:56.52 | tremon | either I'm misunderstanding you, or we don't agree on what consitutes network load |
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| 19:57.22 | specing | fine Im going to download it all |
| 19:57.25 | specing | FML. |
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| 19:57.54 | tremon | http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/apt-offline of any help? |
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| 19:58.53 | makoto | tremon: thanks! it works. I reconfigured the screens with nvidia-settings (or something named like that) and I now have all 3 screens powered up. just some tweaks now. |
| 19:59.03 | tremon | yw |
| 19:59.11 | makoto | i really like not using xinerama |
| 19:59.21 | makoto | much more logical setup |
| 19:59.47 | specing | tremon: not really |
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| 20:00.13 | specing | well Im going to download it anyway, just need to find a rsync mirror close to me |
| 20:00.25 | specing | and then somehow limit it to binary-amd64 |
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| 20:01.48 | sriharsha | I'm having problems with Icedove showing only notifications for one account when you have multiple email accounts? |
| 20:02.02 | sriharsha | *when I install multiple accounts |
| 20:02.14 | sriharsha | any fix? |
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| 20:05.14 | i0x71 | tremon: thanks |
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| 20:06.11 | i0x71 | Dr_LiDaR: just a bootable image, i was hoping to build it from a current install i have |
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| 20:13.45 | makoto | oh wow |
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| 20:19.50 | opiut | any network expert here? |
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| 20:21.26 | format_c | opiut, depends.... |
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| 20:22.32 | tremon | opiut: there are 1215 people in here. chances are at least one of them would call himself a networking export. Does that answer your question? |
| 20:22.57 | opiut | ok ty |
| 20:23.26 | dkr | I bet that wasn't the real question, though! ;) |
| 20:23.42 | tremon | who knows, maybe he's people a freenode user survey... |
| 20:23.51 | tremon | s/people/performing/ |
| 20:24.00 | tremon | needs to get either some sleep or coffee |
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| 20:25.56 | opiut | after installing a driver I suddenly lost my wired connection and network-manager cant handle it but wireless still workin....could you please help me? |
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| 20:28.05 | tremon | that sounds weird... after installing what driver? |
| 20:29.02 | tremon | oh, and: which debian version? output of ip link show ; ip addr show? lspci -nn? dmesg? |
| 20:29.05 | tremon | :) |
| 20:29.24 | opiut | ALSA, the Advanced Linux Sound Architecture http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA |
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| 20:30.46 | opiut | lspci -nn 06:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01) |
| 20:30.47 | opiut | 07:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [10ec:8168] (rev 02) |
| 20:30.57 | opiut | debian 6.0.5 |
| 20:31.01 | tremon | !paste |
| 20:31.01 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 20:32.01 | tremon | just trying to save you from an autokick... |
| 20:32.11 | opiut | ok tnx :) |
| 20:33.07 | sneex | ldd -v ? |
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| 20:34.08 | opiut | ldd: missing file arguments |
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| 20:34.34 | tremon | opiut: still interested in ip link show :) |
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| 20:35.55 | opiut | tremon: what do u mean? |
| 20:36.01 | blah2 | hi how do i move all files ending in .mp4 in / to /home/test/mp4 ? |
| 20:36.17 | tremon | opiut: it's a command, run it and paste the output |
| 20:36.37 | i0x71 | blah2: mv /*.mp4 /home/test/mp4/ |
| 20:36.43 | sneex | ^^ |
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| 20:38.08 | blah2 | i0x71: thanks for your response but this isnt working for me as this command isnt searching through all files in the root |
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| 20:38.30 | blah2 | need it to check the entire of / |
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| 20:38.37 | blah2 | recursively |
| 20:38.42 | sney | do it with a for loop and find |
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| 20:39.07 | opiut | tremon: http://paste.debian.net/187811/ |
| 20:39.24 | sney | e.g. for i in `find foo`; do mv $i bar;done |
| 20:39.55 | tremon | opiut: that seems to suggest eth1 is still up and running. which network interface have you lost? |
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| 20:40.29 | tremon | sney: find foo -execdir mv '{}' /new/dir'{}' \; |
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| 20:40.47 | opiut | tremon: that eth1, I dont have access to it via network manager |
| 20:40.49 | tremon | still need to prevent find from search /home/test though |
| 20:40.53 | blah2 | sney: is 'bar' the directory in question to move the files to? |
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| 20:40.59 | sney | tremon: yeah, I wasn't going to give him the whole solution |
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| 20:41.51 | tremon | oh btw, the second '{}' needs to be left out or it needs a preceding '/', and I'd use mv -vn |
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| 20:42.21 | opiut | tremon: when I start my laptop I also get this error message about missing this file ..../network/interfaces |
| 20:42.31 | tremon | opiut: ah, so you were looking for a network-manager expert :p |
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| 20:43.17 | tremon | /etc/network/interfaces that should be, and its minimal contents should be 'auto lo ; iface lo inet loopback' (two lines) |
| 20:43.50 | opiut | can I create it manually? |
| 20:43.57 | tremon | yes |
| 20:44.08 | tremon | I just find it hard to believe that an alsa update would remove that file |
| 20:44.34 | tremon | (unless it wasn't a debian package you installed) |
| 20:45.08 | tremon | it's possible that network-manager will start to behave when the loopback interface is up and running again, not sure |
| 20:45.16 | tremon | like I said, I'm not a network-manager export |
| 20:45.24 | tremon | s/export/expert/ |
| 20:45.31 | tremon | really needs more sleep |
| 20:45.45 | opiut | I used that guide from wikina wiki and downloaded file from realtek website |
| 20:45.55 | opiut | ok thanks for your help |
| 20:46.02 | peterrooney | the debate on the debian-devel list throughout all of august about network-manager is extremely entertaining |
| 20:46.09 | tremon | ah... so realtek broke your system... that's more believable ;) |
| 20:46.38 | opiut | ah..others have problem with it? |
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| 20:47.20 | peterrooney | opiut: opinions are firmly divided; facts are clear. |
| 20:47.21 | tremon | opiut: some things are better left unasked (or only asked in #debian-offtopic) |
| 20:48.01 | jelly-home | writes peterrooney up for schadenfreude |
| 20:48.18 | opiut | tremon: there is a file in /etc/network/ named interfaces.bak-0 |
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| 20:49.16 | tremon | opiut: ok, maybe you can simply rename/copy it back |
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| 20:50.57 | opiut | thanks tremon , let me restart and see what happens |
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| 20:52.32 | FLeiXiuS | I have a deb package that requests MYSQL to be installed; however, the mysql package has interactive questions. Is there a way I can run a pre-script prior to installing dependencies in my package? |
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| 20:54.30 | qw12 | how to install perl modules in debian ? |
| 20:54.33 | tremon | you might be able to use a separate package for that, and use PreDepends. but I'm not sure about the semantics |
| 20:55.02 | FLeiXiuS | tremon, That's what I was thinking, I was trying to throw debconf-set-selections a few lines, but I dont know at how it would work. |
| 20:55.07 | tremon | try #debian-mentors on oftc, or the dpkg-devel mailing list |
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| 20:55.47 | tremon | but I think it's bad form to try to script other packages' installation |
| 20:56.10 | FLeiXiuS | It is, but there has to be a way to do it. |
| 20:56.26 | FLeiXiuS | It's either write documentation and expect users to follow it..or do this. |
| 20:56.44 | tremon | especially since mysql may already be installed, and preseeding in that case would a) not accomplish anything and b) overwrite the system's current config |
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| 20:57.40 | tremon | I know mythbackend relies on mysql as well (on dmo), maybe you can look how they did it |
| 20:57.48 | genoskill | how can i make a persistent usb |
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| 20:58.21 | jelly-home | tremon: except that debconf is not a registry, and merely messing with the values should NOT affect actual config already in place |
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| 20:58.46 | tremon | jelly-home: also not at the next mysql update? |
| 20:58.51 | jelly-home | correct |
| 20:59.02 | tremon | ok, I stand corrected then :) |
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| 20:59.19 | blah2 | so like this ? |
| 20:59.22 | blah2 | sudo for i in `find / -iname '*.mp4'; do mv $i /home/nick/test ;done |
| 20:59.26 | jelly-home | if packages do that, they're buggy |
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| 20:59.57 | tremon | blah2: sudo for will not work, it needs to be in the inner loop |
| 21:00.02 | qw12 | can anyone tell how to install per' modules in debian ? |
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| 21:00.17 | alemani | hello, is there any way to have 'focus follows mouse' under gnome 2.30.x / debian squeeze ? |
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| 21:00.48 | tremon | blah2: and please do use mv -n, otherwise mv will happily overwrite files if they have the same name |
| 21:00.52 | blah2 | my apologies for the lack of understanding, may you explain a little furthur? Thank you for helping. |
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| 21:01.35 | tremon | blah2: "sudo for" will give an error, you need "for [...] ; do sudo mv ..." |
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| 21:02.21 | mips1911 | Is there a way to resume a interupted netinstall. Was plain base install that got interrupted towards the end while downloading linux-image or something like that? |
| 21:02.37 | tremon | I'm also not sure if the for in `` construct will work correctly with filenames with spaces |
| 21:03.00 | FLeiXiuS | tremon, you made a good point about myth, I forgot they do handle that |
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| 21:03.08 | FLeiXiuS | I havent tried installing from the PPA |
| 21:03.16 | FLeiXiuS | but i believe they do handle the questions, let me fire up my vm |
| 21:03.39 | tremon | mips1911: not really. problem is that most of the configured options are not written out to the system until after the base packages have been installed |
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| 21:04.01 | tremon | so you'd need to redo most of the configuration, even if you do manage to chroot into it |
| 21:04.59 | mips1911 | tremon, if I start the install again and tell it not to format the partition will it use the packages already in /var/cache/apt or will it redownload them? |
| 21:05.33 | tremon | mips1911: not sure. I don't think the partition editor will allow you not to format / |
| 21:05.42 | tremon | you can always try... |
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| 21:06.17 | tremon | pets his nas with apt-cacher-ng |
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| 21:07.09 | mips1911 | lol @ tremon :) |
| 21:07.23 | FLeiXiuS | tremon, I lied, they still prompt for questions. |
| 21:07.54 | tremon | sounds like a question for #debian-mentors then :) |
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| 21:13.46 | peterrooney | alemani: use e16 window manager? |
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| 21:19.31 | graham1_e | hi somebody plz help |
| 21:19.43 | graham1_e | Error:Server unexpectedly closed network connection Error:Could not connect to server is what i get when i try sftp'ing into my debian box |
| 21:19.50 | graham1_e | the server IS running. other services are running |
| 21:19.54 | graham1_e | why cant i connect to sftp? |
| 21:21.17 | jhutchins_wk | graham1_e: Can you ssh? |
| 21:21.32 | qw12 | how do i install perl modules in debian ? |
| 21:22.05 | specing | qw12: probably via CPAN |
| 21:22.09 | jhutchins_wk | qw12: What forinstance |
| 21:22.29 | jhutchins_wk | It's best to install them through dpkg if possible. |
| 21:22.30 | specing | graham1_e: don't panic, you are not in a life-threatening situation! |
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| 21:23.33 | jhutchins_wk | specing: the problem with CPAN is that it has no awareness of Debian packages, and the Debian system doesn't know to update the modules if necessary |
| 21:24.14 | specing | jhutchins_wk: yep and when they collide then all the sh*t brakes loose |
| 21:25.15 | specing | unless debian patches CPAN to make a .deb from the module and then invoke dpkg? |
| 21:26.08 | graham1_e | i cant ssh in no. i can connect to the transmission daemon though... |
| 21:27.02 | alemani | peterrooney: using gnome 2.30.x your suggestion is that I should switch to e16 ? |
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| 21:27.15 | jhutchins_wk | graham1_e: How do you administer the server if you can't connect via ssh? |
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| 21:28.13 | jordanm | graham1_e: SSH (by default) will start randomly dropping connections if its being hammered. is port 22 open to the internet? |
| 21:28.30 | x1__ | huh? |
| 21:28.31 | jelly-home | blinks at <jordanm> graham1_e: SSH (by default) will start randomly dropping connections if its being hammered |
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| 21:29.40 | x1__ | graham1_e: check the logs |
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| 21:33.42 | peterrooney | alemani: i believe it is possible to change the widnow manager in gnome |
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| 21:36.13 | jelly-home | qw12: if you want to keep the packaging system aware of your installs, use dh-make-perl to pull modules and build packages out of them |
| 21:36.56 | qw12 | what do you mean by aware of your installs ? |
| 21:37.20 | qw12 | if i use dh-make-perl, does it allow to remove the installation of perl modules ? |
| 21:37.23 | jelly-home | qw12: it means dpkg doesn't know what your installed in the cpan shell |
| 21:37.48 | jelly-home | qw12: yes |
| 21:38.07 | qw12 | jelly-home: ok, what is the command to install perl module after dh-make-perl ? |
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| 21:38.28 | jelly-home | qw12: dpkg -i /path/to/generated.deb |
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| 21:39.20 | jelly-home | ... in other words, dh-make-perl is used to make packages. |
| 21:39.26 | qw12 | jelly-home: ok, thanks. if its already available as package, i guess aptitude takes care of it |
| 21:39.39 | jelly-home | qw12: not unless you ask it to. |
| 21:39.54 | qw12 | by the way, i thought that aptitude is newer than apt-get install, but i see lot of webpages still saying to use apt-get install |
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| 21:40.23 | jelly-home | first search for a certain module. If it's not packaged already, go the dh-make-perl route if you can |
| 21:40.55 | jelly-home | apt-cache search Time::ParseDate |
| 21:40.56 | qw12 | jelly-home: ok |
| 21:41.01 | qw12 | by the way, i thought that aptitude is newer than apt-get install, but i see lot of webpages still saying to use apt-get install |
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| 21:41.20 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell qw12 about why aptitude |
| 21:41.24 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell qw12 about why not aptitude |
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| 21:43.13 | jelly-home | IME, the issues with cpan-installed modules do not rear their ugly head until it's time to upgrade to the next debian release |
| 21:43.15 | qw12 | ok, thanks |
| 21:43.28 | qw12 | jelly-home: didn't get that |
| 21:44.33 | jelly-home | qw12: even if you install stuff using the cpan shell, things typically continue work until a new Debian release is out, with newer perl. It's _then_ that stuff breaks badly. |
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| 21:47.38 | qw12 | jelly-home: ok.. i tried upgrading lenny to squeeze using lot of webpage based instructions and from some knowledgeable people here, but didn't work |
| 21:47.47 | qw12 | jelly-home: how often does a new debian come out ? |
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| 21:48.08 | jelly-home | !release history |
| 21:48.08 | dpkg | Debian releases are named after characters from the movie "Toy Story". Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-03-09), Potato(2.2; 2000-08-15), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06), Etch(4.0; 2007-04-08), Lenny(5.0; 2009-02-14), Squeeze(6.0; 2011-02-06). The next release will be Wheezy. http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives |
| 21:48.27 | jelly-home | oufo: please disable that !r trigger in this channel. |
| 21:48.44 | qw12 | cool.. |
| 21:48.45 | abrotman | !release history |
| 21:48.45 | dpkg | Debian releases are named after characters from the movie "Toy Story". Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-03-09), Potato(2.2; 2000-08-15), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06), Etch(4.0; 2007-04-08), Lenny(5.0; 2009-02-14), Squeeze(6.0; 2011-02-06). The next release will be Wheezy. http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives |
| 21:48.55 | qw12 | jelly-home: do you run your own server all the time ? |
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| 21:49.45 | qw12 | bbl |
| 21:49.54 | jelly-home | qw12: most of the servers I run are for other people |
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| 21:50.39 | qw12 | jelly-home: ok.. |
| 21:52.02 | genoskill | why the gnash plugin only works on youtube |
| 21:53.00 | ompaul | genoskill: flash is a moving target they get to a level of performance and flash moves the goalposts |
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| 21:56.18 | genoskill | ompaul, what does that even mean. It doesn't even work on dailymotion. So disapointing, its like they only care about youtube and nothing else |
| 21:56.51 | lidar | genoskill: why not justy install flash ? |
| 21:58.29 | genoskill | lidar, doesnt respect my freedom |
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| 21:58.33 | abrotman | try lightspark ? |
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| 22:01.46 | marti | how can I setup to gdm3 autorun with system? there's gdm3 in services and in BUM enabled, but not working |
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| 22:02.05 | jelly-home | whose BUM is that |
| 22:02.07 | genoskill | abramart, does it work? |
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| 22:02.36 | jelly-home | abro who? |
| 22:03.38 | marti | boot up manager |
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| 22:04.26 | chipnt | hi everyone |
| 22:04.54 | jelly-home | marti: does it work when the service is started manually? |
| 22:05.00 | jelly-home | (does it work at all?) |
| 22:05.31 | chipnt | not sure if it's the right place to ask , i need a mail server/solution that will automatically insert all my *@domain.com mails into a mysql table, do you guys know any solution that fits my need? Thank you |
| 22:05.40 | mmnicolas | genoskill: they only care about youtube because youtube is the only one who cares about having some sort of standard |
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| 22:05.52 | marti | I run by sudo /etc/init.d/gdm3 start |
| 22:06.06 | marti | I need run this command every when I start PC |
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| 22:08.28 | mmnicolas | genoskill: you cannot live like RMS *AND* have a good experience with flash |
| 22:08.57 | simonlnu | marti: update-rc.d gdm3 enable; and be happy |
| 22:09.01 | lidar | mmnicolas: well stated ! |
| 22:09.29 | simonlnu | you gotta pick your battles... |
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| 22:10.14 | genoskill | mmnicolas, then it should be renamed to "youtube" plugin. Looks like they don't care about the internet, only about jewtube. |
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| 22:11.01 | mmnicolas | genoskill: No. |
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| 22:11.23 | mmnicolas | thanks |
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| 22:11.59 | lidar | themill: well played ! |
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| 22:13.33 | adrakoa | hi |
| 22:13.41 | lidar | hi adrakoa |
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| 22:16.41 | demonax | Hello, still "in irons"; Evolution is not connecting to internet mail server. Iceweasel connects. I have located gconf file evoldap.conf; However gconfigtool-2 complains that it cannot access config server. |
| 22:17.13 | simonlnu | adds one to the list |
| 22:17.47 | lidar | simonlnu: didnt even give the poor guy a chance |
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| 22:18.06 | simonlnu | i would have done the same as themill |
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| 22:18.36 | lidar | i would of done a ban first |
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| 22:18.44 | lidar | people here are so nice |
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| 22:18.58 | simonlnu | um, he did ban him? |
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| 22:19.15 | mmnicolas | no, a simple gentle kick |
| 22:19.17 | simonlnu | oh, sorry, misread |
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| 22:19.36 | simonlnu | would have banned him |
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| 22:20.10 | simonlnu | and permanently too |
| 22:20.16 | mmnicolas | he's still here |
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| 22:20.26 | lidar | maybe its a little kid and they have learned not to act that way |
| 22:20.37 | abrotman | and you can move along any time ... |
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| 22:21.27 | lidar | abrotman: moving along is a great idea anybody want a beer pub walking distance from here ? |
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| 22:22.24 | GreenET | Say, when will Wheezy go into DEEP freeze? |
| 22:22.43 | mmnicolas | lidar: I'm sure he meant moving along as in moving to #debian-offtopic |
| 22:23.02 | simonlnu | it is frozen. you're thinking sid.... |
| 22:23.06 | abrotman | GreenET: it's frozen |
| 22:23.30 | GreenET | simonlnu: no; Wheezy ("testing") |
| 22:23.30 | abrotman | GreenET: keep an eye on the RC bug count .. as it gets clloser to 0, it gets more frozen :) |
| 22:24.04 | simonlnu | absolute zero frozen, like some people's brains... |
| 22:25.07 | lidar | i need to read more about cd_ether |
| 22:25.12 | GreenET | abrotman: ;) yeh. Where's the RC bug count posted? |
| 22:25.19 | lidar | cdc_ether* |
| 22:25.30 | mmnicolas | GreenET: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ follow the green line |
| 22:25.44 | GreenET | mmnicolas: ah, thanks |
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| 22:26.48 | ZenWalker | hi |
| 22:26.48 | GreenET | Incidentally, how do I upgrade to "stable" from a "testing" installation? |
| 22:27.06 | lidar | GreenET: start all over is the easiest way |
| 22:27.09 | peterrooney | dpkg: squeeze->wheezy |
| 22:27.09 | dpkg | First, understand that testing is a pre-release distribution without timely security support and that you may have a slightly bumpy ride; ask me about <moving target> <testing> <testing security>. From /etc/apt/sources.list, remove stable-specific lines like squeeze-updates and backports, and change squeeze to wheezy. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. If you feel you need more instructions, perhaps you should wait a while. |
| 22:27.12 | abrotman | lidar: no ... |
| 22:27.15 | ZenWalker | Can I solve this warning? -> Saved ALSA mixer settings detected; aumix will not touch mixer. <- |
| 22:27.22 | abrotman | lidar: that's just silly |
| 22:27.58 | lidar | abrotman: ? going backwards is "easy" yeah ok ... lol |
| 22:28.05 | abrotman | he didn't ask to go backward ... |
| 22:28.19 | abrotman | oh .. he did .. but i think he is mistaken |
| 22:28.31 | abrotman | i see whta he's asking |
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| 22:28.45 | abrotman | GreenET: you set your sources to track wheezy now .. when it becomes stable, it will just continue |
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| 22:29.00 | GreenET | lidar: well, obviously going to the newly "stabilized" from the current "testing". Capish? |
| 22:29.30 | GreenET | abrotman: ah, cool. thank'y. |
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| 22:30.34 | lidar | GreenET: lifes too short for stable software should stick with testing ! |
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| 22:31.24 | GreenET | lidar: well . . . security team fixes are desirable. |
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| 22:44.54 | GreenET | For which date is Wheezy scheduled to move to "stable"? |
| 22:46.07 | jordanm | that's not how it works. it releases when the number of release critical bugs hits 0 |
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| 22:46.58 | GreenET | jordanm: I see. Fair enough. Thanks. |
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| 22:51.09 | GreenET | I'm avoiding Gnome 3.x . . . the Google+ discussion convinced me. What's another good Desktop option besides Xfce? |
| 22:51.36 | abrotman | hehe . .that's silly, you sohuld try it |
| 22:51.49 | jelly-home | there was a discussion? |
| 22:52.03 | jordanm | jelly-home: I think it was more of a linus rant |
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| 22:52.39 | jelly-home | not his area of expertise -> /ignore |
| 22:52.46 | jordanm | GreenET: if you want something complete that you don't have to mess with much (like gnome2), KDE is a decent choice |
| 22:52.49 | sney | GreenET: KDE4 is nice. |
| 22:52.52 | GreenET | abrotman: wobbly windows? c'mon . . . :( |
| 22:53.08 | WinstonSmith | that's configurable |
| 22:53.13 | WinstonSmith | and not default |
| 22:53.17 | jordanm | jelly-home: but he does use desktop linux to get real work done, like many of us |
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| 22:53.29 | abrotman | GreenET: haven't seen those, been using it for awhile |
| 22:53.45 | jelly-home | jordanm: yeah, jsut another dude with an opinion |
| 22:53.46 | jordanm | that's a compiz feature, not metacity/gnome (AFAIK) |
| 22:53.49 | jelly-home | I also /ignore scientists talking about religion, and religious leaders talking about science |
| 22:53.58 | GreenET | abrotman: 'k |
| 22:54.12 | jordanm | jelly-home: so whose opinion would carry weight on the subject? |
| 22:54.36 | WinstonSmith | the user |
| 22:54.37 | abrotman | linus is known to rant .. |
| 22:54.39 | jelly-home | jordanm: actual experts on the UI subject, if any |
| 22:55.00 | jordanm | to me, that's the user :) |
| 22:55.29 | GreenET | guess i'll make a profile with KDE4 |
| 22:56.04 | abrotman | try them both, try them all, find one that *you* like |
| 22:56.18 | jelly-home | I've been using xfce for years and kde4 for about 2 years and both work, more or less |
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| 22:56.30 | GreenET | I didn't mind Gnome 2.2; didn't love it, but didn't mind it. |
| 22:56.30 | WinstonSmith | use gnome3, disable gnome-shell, install AWN and CCSM and be happy like me! </rant> |
| 22:56.46 | WinstonSmith | oh yeah and synapse ofc |
| 22:56.52 | jelly-home | debian seems to have an old compiz and ccsm |
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| 22:57.47 | bassliner | gnome3 is just like you try to run down a street and someone continously throws trees, old cars, skyscrapers and all sort of shit behind your legs. |
| 22:58.12 | WinstonSmith | bassliner: no that's gnome-shell |
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| 22:58.27 | bassliner | WinstonSmith: well, yes. |
| 22:58.50 | abrotman | GreenET: don't listen to anyone, try things for yourself |
| 22:58.53 | GreenET | the remarks in G+ thread about DBUS+Gnome 3.3 cockups were scary as hell. |
| 22:59.15 | GreenET | bassliner: lol |
| 22:59.17 | abrotman | anyway ... |
| 22:59.19 | WinstonSmith | also unity is not half bad, even if there normally is instant shouting when it's mentioned. but it easily keyboard driven and the dash is good |
| 22:59.28 | abrotman | !start a wm war |
| 22:59.28 | dpkg | ratpoison makes me vomit! |
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| 23:00.10 | WinstonSmith | just notices he is in #debian and not ##linux |
| 23:00.14 | WinstonSmith | hides |
| 23:00.37 | GreenET | ah, Unity, that's the name I was trying to remember. It was mentioned as good. |
| 23:00.40 | abrotman | ... |
| 23:01.07 | abrotman | can we move on from DE/WM wars? |
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| 23:02.00 | GreenET | aaanywho . . . gotta go. Nice chatting with y'all. You mah peeps. |
| 23:02.00 | bassliner | abrotman: that's like watching a conversation with a 2cv6 and a lamborghini driver arguing both should just drive. |
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| 23:02.16 | abrotman | bassliner: enough ... |
| 23:02.18 | bassliner | and yes WM wars are a bit often :) |
| 23:02.26 | WinstonSmith | meh (car comparisons)-- |
| 23:02.55 | WinstonSmith | oh yeah moving on |
| 23:03.14 | Theoden | Anyone here ever try Avast antivirus for linux? |
| 23:03.22 | WinstonSmith | anybody has experience with minidlna that he/she would care to share |
| 23:03.30 | WinstonSmith | ? |
| 23:03.30 | bassliner | yea, why conversations about init systems, poettering has you anyways. earlier or later. hah! |
| 23:03.41 | abrotman | bassliner: enough already .. knock it off |
| 23:04.15 | abrotman | bassliner: if you prefer, there's a #debian-offtopic for people to have inane discussions |
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| 23:05.18 | Theoden | Hmm ... guess not. :) |
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| 23:06.56 | lidar | Theoden: your running a emaill server or file server for windows computers ? |
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| 23:07.31 | Theoden | lidar: No - just seeking information. |
| 23:07.49 | abrotman | Theoden: i'd tihnk contacting the vendor would be a good source of information |
| 23:08.36 | Theoden | abrotman: Agreed - except they are biased to say their product is great. Just wondering if anyone has tried it and can they offer a less biased viewpont. |
| 23:08.52 | abrotman | Theoden: this is why you use google to look for reviews :) |
| 23:09.11 | Theoden | abrotman: Point taken. |
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| 23:30.07 | grothendieck | I have a CentOS KVM/QEMU guest running inside my debian box |
| 23:30.17 | grothendieck | I need to sign a package in the CentOS guest with a gpg key |
| 23:30.47 | grothendieck | I copied over ~/.gnupg from Debian host to the KVM guest with scp |
| 23:30.58 | grothendieck | gpg --list-keys shows my keyring is there |
| 23:31.43 | grothendieck | but when I try to sign anything, CentOS fails and dies on an error about not finding a socket to gpg-agent in my ~/.gnupg |
| 23:31.57 | dondelelcaro | grothendieck: why don't you just copy the package back to the Debian box and sign it there? |
| 23:32.03 | grothendieck | It's an RPM |
| 23:32.05 | dondelelcaro | so? |
| 23:32.27 | grothendieck | It is signed during the build process |
| 23:32.36 | grothendieck | I guess I can modify the Makefile to "SIGN=" |
| 23:32.47 | grothendieck | so it doesn't sign in the CentOS vm |
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| 23:33.16 | dondelelcaro | yes, and then call rpmsign or whatever outside of the VM |
| 23:33.18 | grothendieck | dondelelcaro: I'll give that a try, it should work for now -- thanks |
| 23:33.25 | dondelelcaro | you generally don't sign on build machines anyway |
| 23:33.31 | grothendieck | oh |
| 23:33.35 | grothendieck | true |
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| 23:36.20 | grothendieck | yeah taht works, thanks for catching my dumb ;) |
| 23:36.29 | grothendieck | I hate RPM |
| 23:37.35 | troker | Anyone feel like giving me a hand with a wonky cron issue? It *seems* as if it should be straight forward… Info here: http://pastebin.com/S3RYAr5N |
| 23:37.54 | troker | Want it to run once every day at 6PM |
| 23:38.39 | kaste | kHey, just setup a Wheezy and perl is complaining about the locale. How do i fix this? |
| 23:39.22 | dondelelcaro | kaste: dpkg-reconfigure locales; and fix it |
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| 23:40.28 | dondelelcaro | troker: does just running /home/vi-admin/ghettoVCBg2/vm_backup.sh; work? do you get any mail? |
| 23:41.01 | troker | dondelelcaro: Yes, the script is owned by a user vi-admin. However, all paths are fully qualified. |
| 23:41.02 | dondelelcaro | troker: do other cronjobs work? do you see cron change users at 18:00? |
| 23:41.10 | kaste | thank you seems to have worked |
| 23:41.13 | troker | dondelelcaro: this is the only cron job |
| 23:41.16 | dondelelcaro | troker: that's not what I asked. |
| 23:41.28 | magyar | can a pipe be run as root using sudo? |
| 23:41.34 | dondelelcaro | magyar: yes |
| 23:41.41 | dondelelcaro | magyar: but you have to run a root shell |
| 23:41.53 | dondelelcaro | magyar: ala sudo sh -c 'foo | bar baz' or similar |
| 23:41.54 | troker | dondelelcaro: no mail is generated by the script, and yes, the script will work if I run it manually |
| 23:42.05 | dondelelcaro | troker: the script may not generate mail itself, but cron will. |
| 23:42.09 | magyar | dondelelcaro: thanks, will try |
| 23:42.21 | dondelelcaro | troker: with exactly that path, right? |
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| 23:42.37 | troker | dondelelcaro: any thoughts on where I would find the cron mail(cron newb) |
| 23:42.55 | dondelelcaro | troker: it gets sent to root if it's root's crontab, but you can send it somewhere else |
| 23:43.12 | dondelelcaro | troker: see the MAILTO variable documented in man 5 crontab; for details |
| 23:43.40 | troker | dondelelcaro: mhmm /var/mail has no entry for root |
| 23:44.21 | dondelelcaro | troker: anyway, do you see an appropriate entry in /var/log/auth.log for the cron job starting? how do you know the cron job isn't running? |
| 23:44.38 | magyar | dondelelcaro: hmm it's not working well >> "sudo su -c "ps -u user u|awk '{print $2}'|egrep [0-9]|xargs kill -15" |
| 23:44.52 | dondelelcaro | magyar: see pgrep |
| 23:45.00 | dondelelcaro | magyar: that's what you actually want to use, not what you're doing |
| 23:45.37 | troker | dondelelcaro: the script called by the job generates time-stamped log data. There is no /var/log/auth.log file |
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| 23:45.46 | dondelelcaro | troker: uh... is this Debian? |
| 23:46.36 | dondelelcaro | magyar: and also, I said sh -c, not su -c |
| 23:47.03 | magyar | sry, I messed up |
| 23:47.14 | dondelelcaro | no worries |
| 23:47.33 | dondelelcaro | pkill -15 -U user; will do what you were trying to do, I believe |
| 23:47.34 | troker | dondelelcaro: I was under the impression it was. Its Vmwares vMA. However uname returns "Linux" pretty generic. |
| 23:47.40 | magyar | dondelelcaro: thanks for the both pointers |
| 23:48.08 | dondelelcaro | magyar: np; hope it works |
| 23:48.19 | magyar | dondelelcaro: what if there is multiple process and I want to term only one of them? |
| 23:49.00 | dondelelcaro | magyar: pkill -f fooprocess -U user; or similar. pkill and pgrep have lots of options |
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| 23:49.35 | dondelelcaro | magyar: there are some circumstances where you might actually have to do something else, but most of the time, pkill and pgrep are what you're really looking for |
| 23:49.56 | magyar | dondelelcaro: i used pgrep before a while back and it skipped my mind |
| 23:50.14 | dondelelcaro | magyar: yeah, no worries. |
| 23:50.25 | magyar | dondelelcaro: thanks again |
| 23:50.26 | dondelelcaro | troker: lsb_release -a; or see /etc/debian_version or similar. |
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| 23:50.55 | troker | looks like its not debian... |
| 23:51.04 | troker | ha - well, thanks for the help |
| 23:51.08 | dondelelcaro | np |
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| 23:55.46 | ciscorouter | anyone here good with apache and php? |
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| 23:56.03 | ciscorouter | I hold debian users to a higher standard than other distros |
| 23:58.23 | abrotman | for which distro? |
