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| 00:00.17 | YokoBR | my problem is that i have two videocards in two different busid, but i can't get the offboard running.. |
| 00:00.21 | rudi_s | In fact, " * dpkg-buildflags supports new environment variables (DEB_<flag>_MAINT_<operation>) that are meant to be used by the package maintainer to adjust the set of build flags returned. Two ..." |
| 00:00.41 | gnarface | gez: i believe that one is for a specific brand. i know people use synaptics for touchpads ... i don't think it handles graphic tablets though |
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| 00:01.07 | gnarface | gez: its possible that could be a kernel-level thing too, if its not represented as some sort of standard USB device internally |
| 00:02.26 | gnarface | gez: apt-cache search xserver-xorg-input |
| 00:03.07 | daemonkeeper | rudi_s: So? All i said is that dpkg does not export flags anymore. It is your job to inject it to the upstream Makefile. While you do, you can just add your flags. |
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| 00:05.05 | rudi_s | daemonkeeper: Well, the point is, with compat=9 you don't have to export CFLAGS or call dpkg-buildflags --get CFLAGS in debian/rules, just add export DEB_CFLAGS_MAINT_APPEND = -Wall and it gets added to the default CFLAGS. And if you just need the defaults, you don't have to do anything. |
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| 00:06.23 | rudi_s | *With compat=9 and dh7 style debian/rules file (short rules). |
| 00:06.43 | daemonkeeper | rudi_s: That's correct, but debhelper (and thus, any compatibility level) is a completely optional build helper, not mentioned, used, or required to build Debian packages, not documented in the Debian policy and not related to dpkg. |
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| 00:07.59 | rudi_s | daemonkeeper: Good point, still many packages use it. |
| 00:08.13 | daemonkeeper | rudi_s: The vast majority uses it, and all of my packages do. |
| 00:08.28 | rudi_s | ;-) |
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| 00:10.26 | bizhanMona | question: how different is debian kernel from kernel.org? or is identical (i.e. no patches) and where I can info on patches if there are any? thhx |
| 00:11.12 | gnarface | bizhanMona: its patched heavily. they should be in the source package for the kernel though |
| 00:11.20 | daemonkeeper | The Debian kernel is patched, just like any other distribution does.. |
| 00:11.33 | abrotman | every other .. |
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| 00:12.52 | daemonkeeper | Was this a grammar correction or sarcasm? |
| 00:13.21 | abrotman | both? :) |
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| 00:14.05 | iluminator105 | how do you enable camera to be on while computer is in lock |
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| 00:15.22 | daemonkeeper | Anyways, for the hard facts: http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/kernel/dists/trunk/linux/debian/patches/ |
| 00:15.31 | bizhanMona | all, I start hating redhat for their version of kernel is very different than kernel.org and it is almost impossible to patch it without RedHat support, how would you say debian kernel is? and what is the latest version ? |
| 00:16.04 | armdale | alright, so i'm installing debian here, but it doesn't have a driver for my ethernet. it says i can put the driver on a usb and load it from there. i download driver from realtek website and copy to usb. but the debian installer doesn't seem to recognize them. |
| 00:16.09 | armdale | thoughts? |
| 00:16.15 | daemonkeeper | bizhanMona: Compared to Red Hat, the Debian kernel is almost vanilla. |
| 00:16.28 | gez | gnarface: http://paste.debian.net/188359/ |
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| 00:16.41 | peterrooney | armdale: get the firmware-linux-nonfree .deb |
| 00:17.06 | armdale | and put that on the usb? |
| 00:17.14 | bizhanMona | daemonkeeper: Thanks a lot best news I heard all day today. |
| 00:17.16 | daemonkeeper | bizhanMona: Red Hat is putting lots of efforts to backport features and drivers to keep RHEL usable/runnable on modern hardware, given they support it for 10 years or so. |
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| 00:17.30 | peterrooney | armdale: yes, apologies for overlooking that. |
| 00:17.49 | armdale | i'll give that a go, thx |
| 00:18.41 | peterrooney | bizhanMona: with make-kpkg, you can set up your own kernel whatever way and version you like, integrated into debian's packaging system. |
| 00:19.25 | bizhanMona | peterooney: this great to know, thanks |
| 00:19.27 | daemonkeeper | bizhanMona: This is entirely different in Debian, where only minor changes make it to the kernel (mostly some out of tree drivers, bug fixes, and stability patches). Moreover, what peterrooney says. |
| 00:20.21 | bizhanMona | thank you guys, I can believe the level of support on this chat. It is awesome best i have seen . Thanks again |
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| 00:21.07 | somiaj | I was kinda under the impression that both debian and centos put a lot of their security patches back into the mainline 2.6.32 kernel from kernel.org. |
| 00:21.25 | sney | Security, sure |
| 00:21.36 | daemonkeeper | somiaj: CentOS doesn't do anything, they use the RHEL source package. |
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| 00:21.48 | gez | gnarface: I think I found something |
| 00:21.50 | sney | But not the red hat extended support hardware stuff |
| 00:21.56 | pidginsux | Hell |
| 00:22.13 | pidginsux | The tabs in IE 10 are organazed better then in firefox, i think.. |
| 00:22.16 | somiaj | daemonkeeper: ahh, I just know they too are using the 2.6.32 kernel and figured a lot of the security/bug stuff gets put in the vanilla kernel as opposed to everyone one having their own security/bug patches applied afterwards. |
| 00:23.09 | allballs | do I need to edit debian/rules, do I need to edit some other file, do I need to export some env var to get 'getconf LFS_CFLAGS' to return '-D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64' ?? |
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| 00:23.21 | gez | gnarface: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/digimend/index.php?title=UC-Logic_Tablet_PF1209 |
| 00:23.32 | gez | What does it mean that is supported in Kernel and Evdev? |
| 00:24.07 | daemonkeeper | somiaj: RHEL (and thus CentOS) has a huge life span. This makes the kernel towards the end of the life cycle quite unusable because modern hardware is not supported. To overcome that problem, they are introducing invasive and heavy patches to ancient kernel versions, to keep the overal stability and compatibility, but makes it mostly impossible to use any pristine third party kernel module/patch. |
| 00:24.28 | daemonkeeper | +that |
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| 00:34.14 | gnarface | gez: i'm not sure but according to that you shouldn't need it anymore i don't think |
| 00:35.23 | glockX | hey guys, can someone please type ifconfig and tell me whats the value on txqueuelen? |
| 00:36.24 | LeandroLuiz | 1000 |
| 00:36.35 | glockX | LeandroLuiz, thnx |
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| 00:45.45 | witheld | I realize how insane what I'm asking is, and I do realize the consequences, hut is there anyway way to use --force-depends with apt-get? |
| 00:45.49 | witheld | but* |
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| 01:13.23 | armdale | alright, so i'm installing debian here, but it doesn't have a driver for my ethernet. it says i can put the driver on a usb and load it from there. i download firmware from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/squeeze/current/ extract and copy to usb. but the debian installer doesn't recognize it. |
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| 01:14.46 | armdale | i insert the usb, it says "Load missing drivers from removable media?" i select 'Yes'. it goes to the next screen which is blank except for a grey bar along the bottom which i can type in. nothing happens though |
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| 01:15.35 | armdale | the usb is FAT and all that's on it is /firmware which i extracted from the tarball |
| 01:15.48 | blackshirt | i don't know exactly, maybe try to load them manually |
| 01:15.58 | gnarface | armdale: are you sure you don't need to put the driver on there? the firmware isn't the driver, but a driver may require it. |
| 01:16.43 | armdale | well i did that originally. i downloaded the specific driver from the realtek website and put that on the usb, but again, nothing happened |
| 01:17.05 | gnarface | suspects it may be a path issue |
| 01:17.10 | blackshirt | that just a driver |
| 01:17.27 | gnarface | armdale: the kmuto installer may save you some trouble |
| 01:17.39 | armdale | kmuto ehhh |
| 01:18.15 | armdale | hm, k |
| 01:18.23 | gnarface | i seem to recall though when i once had to do this it didn't turn out to be that hard; it was something dirt simple like "don't unpack it", the installer is expecting the official whole .deb file or something like that... |
| 01:18.33 | blackshirt | gnarface, what the kamuto installer? |
| 01:18.39 | gnarface | !kmuto |
| 01:18.43 | dpkg | Unofficial images for installing Debian Squeeze/6.0 using a later kernel (currently Linux 3.2.4) are available from http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ (images are on the CD mirrors). To supply additional firmware, ask me about <installer firmware>. For a USB install, use the lenny instructions: http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 |
| 01:19.15 | blackshirt | oh,that japanese installer |
| 01:19.33 | gnarface | armdale: also this bot probably has instructions specific to your device that may clarify the issue you are having with using your USB key |
| 01:19.37 | armdale | that's what i'm thinking too gnarfaceÂ…though i've tried a number of things |
| 01:20.57 | gnarface | armdale: what ethernet device did you say, specifically? |
| 01:21.04 | armdale | so this kmuto install just contains all the additional firmware? |
| 01:21.05 | armdale | um |
| 01:21.18 | armdale | realtek RTL8168E |
| 01:21.21 | armdale | err |
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| 01:21.33 | armdale | realtek RTL8111E |
| 01:21.34 | armdale | rather |
| 01:21.44 | gnarface | armdale: see how the bot says " ask me about <installer firmware>" ? |
| 01:22.01 | armdale | bot, tell me about installer firmware |
| 01:22.02 | blackshirt | there are linux-firmware |
| 01:22.06 | armdale | lol |
| 01:22.14 | gnarface | armdale: you do it like this: /msg dpkg installer firmware |
| 01:22.27 | armdale | that's better |
| 01:22.30 | armdale | : p |
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| 01:23.04 | gnarface | armdale: also it knows all kinds of shit about realtek. just ask it |
| 01:23.41 | armdale | good too know |
| 01:23.44 | armdale | to |
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| 01:31.26 | armdale | ya |
| 01:31.35 | armdale | i'm waiting on this kmuto to DL, going to give it a try |
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| 01:35.41 | TheWarden | Hi, I just purchased a 2TB Seagate SATA drive. I formatted and created one big partition as its being used for backup and file storage. |
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| 01:36.40 | TheWarden | I keep getting this within the Disk Utility, "Warning: This partition is misaligned by 512 bytes. this may result in very poor performance. Repartitioning is suggested." |
| 01:36.54 | TheWarden | How can I fix this? I tried repartitioning but it made no difference. |
| 01:37.20 | TheWarden | I figured installing this drive wouldn't be a big deal but it seems there is more to it now. |
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| 01:38.35 | haylo | i zero out my smaller drives |
| 01:38.53 | puc | TheWarden: what sector does your partition start on? |
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| 01:39.56 | TheWarden | puc: mmm I believe 0, not sure. maybe fdisk can tell me as I don't see that in Disk Utility. |
| 01:40.16 | puc | TheWarden: yes, fdisk can tell you. |
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| 01:40.57 | zx2c4 | hey any suggestions on how to get a package added to debian? |
| 01:41.36 | TheWarden | puc: trying to, but it doesn't see it I think that's because Disk Utility is still running repartioning the drive again but I'm sure that will not fix it as I tried before already. |
| 01:41.38 | nevyn | !mentors |
| 01:41.38 | dpkg | somebody said mentors was the system the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ http://mentors.debian.net/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org. |
| 01:42.04 | nevyn | zx2c4: ^^ |
| 01:42.15 | nevyn | zx2c4: also !wnpp |
| 01:42.24 | nevyn | !tell zx2c4 about wnpp |
| 01:42.35 | zx2c4 | thanks |
| 01:42.45 | TheWarden | oh am I blind or what there it is. |
| 01:42.54 | puc | TheWarden: you most likely have a drive using 4096 byte sectors and you've partitioned it as if it were 512 byte sectors. so instead of starting at sector 64, you started at 63 (off by 512 bytes, or 1 sector) |
| 01:43.11 | Tramp | TheWarden: for disks with 4k sector size I use gdisk and GPT |
| 01:43.23 | nevyn | zx2c4: the former if you want to package it yourself. the latter if you just want to make a note that it would be nice for someone to maybe do it. |
| 01:43.28 | TheWarden | puc: here is the results of fdisk -l on this drive I'm having issues with. https://gist.github.com/61866ed2a351c905f686 |
| 01:43.49 | nevyn | zx2c4: your chances of it happening in the latter case relies on kindness of strangers ;) |
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| 01:44.17 | nevyn | unless you know a dm or dd who you can bribe/cajole/blackmail into doing it. |
| 01:44.19 | TheWarden | puc: I think your right... not to figure out how to change that. Argh I wish I could stop Disk Utility creating the partition. |
| 01:44.27 | nevyn | in which case you wouldn't be asking this question. ;) |
| 01:45.11 | TheWarden | I should be able to kill the process one would think... mm not sure what the process name is. |
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| 01:47.18 | TheWarden | Tramp: So Disk Utility can't do 4K sector size? |
| 01:47.28 | pbase | hi. i am having a strange bluetooth problem in wheezy. the adapter doesnt work in wheezy by default. but if i boot in to windows 7 use the adapter and then immediately boot back in wheezy, the adapter gets identified. how do i solvethis? |
| 01:48.07 | Tramp | TheWarden: no idea. I don't know this Tool |
| 01:48.28 | TheWarden | Tramp: oh okay, its a standard tool that comes with Debian. I'll install gdisk then. |
| 01:48.36 | TheWarden | mm its in beta. |
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| 01:50.54 | TheWarden | I'm sure fdisk can do this as well but not sure how as I've never had to do anything out of the ordinary. |
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| 01:51.42 | armdale | wahoooo. kmuto worked gnarface. thanks :) |
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| 01:51.53 | gnarface | armdale: no problem |
| 01:52.51 | TheWarden | Tramp: so I have gdisk installed and I ran it. I'm creating a new partition and it's asking me first sector is where I put instead of the default of 34 I do 4096? |
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| 01:54.09 | Tramp | TheWarden: I really don't remember. I just remember it work with gdisk, but not how. I don't partition disks every day. Sorry. |
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| 01:54.57 | TheWarden | Tramp: Oh okay, thanks. |
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| 01:56.49 | slidesinger | I can find the firmware loader for rme hdsp, but no firmware (digiface_firmware.bin, digiface_firmware_rev11.bin). I do find a bug attached to a package, alsa-firmware, but no package by that name. Anybody know what is going on? |
| 01:57.47 | TheWarden | mmmm |
| 01:58.20 | somiaj | slidesinger: is it a non-free firmware you need and you have to get it from a non-free debian package? |
| 01:58.24 | Tramp | TheWarden: Just checked one of my disk. There I start the first sector at 2048 |
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| 01:59.08 | slidesinger | somiaj: Good question, I will see if I can find an answer. |
| 01:59.37 | somiaj | according to p.d.o debian has no packages which include any file with 'digiface' as part of the file |
| 02:00.10 | somiaj | ,file digiface_firmware.bin |
| 02:00.14 | judd | No packages in squeeze/i386 were found with that file. |
| 02:00.15 | pbase | by default i can install 4 oses using the primary partitions. how can i incrase that? |
| 02:00.23 | somiaj | judd's apt-file doesn't seem to fidn it either. |
| 02:00.32 | TheWarden | Tramp: yes, I entered 63 as puc stated and it works out to 2048. just not sure how to use this gdisk to complete the process. |
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| 02:00.55 | somiaj | pbase: depends on the OS, but linux can be installed on any partition (so you can put it on an extended partition just fine) |
| 02:01.16 | somiaj | pbase: you could use LVM (and have all your partitions living in a logical volume on a single partition, but then you'll need oses that can understand the LVM) |
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| 02:01.58 | somiaj | pbase: you could also try the new partition format, GPT (GUID Parition Table) which dosen't have the same primary parition table format, but need a newer mobo bios that can understand it. |
| 02:02.02 | somiaj | pbase: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table |
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| 02:02.21 | pbase | somiaj: thanks |
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| 02:07.51 | TheWarden | I think I have it... just waiting for the formatting to complete. |
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| 02:30.50 | fire_ | when i am downloading the source code of guake, it stucks saying failed to verifying signature on guake. keybloack resource /root/.gnugpg/trustedkey.gpg file open error |
| 02:32.00 | TheWarden | In order to re-rad the /etc/fstab does one have to reboot or is there a command one can issue? |
| 02:32.08 | TheWarden | re-read* |
| 02:33.20 | pseubodot | TheWarden: What are you trying to do? |
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| 02:33.51 | pseubodot | TheWarden: Unless I'm changing a mount point for an already mounted disk, editing /etc/fstab should be directly available. |
| 02:34.20 | TheWarden | ahh mount -a does it. |
| 02:35.00 | TheWarden | pseubodot: well I add a new mount point in the fstab to auto mount. This is no read without have fstab re-loaded or re-read. mount -a appeared to do the job just fine for me. |
| 02:36.17 | heoa | ftp://192.168.1.148:21001/ <-- how can I upload a file to this kind of address? |
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| 02:36.59 | heoa | I need some ftp -client, I tried bareftp but cannot connect. There is no password or user, how can I do it with the default ftp? |
| 02:37.09 | heoa | I mean the "ftp" -command in command-line |
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| 02:38.42 | TheWarden | oh so happy to finally get this new drive working. I never even though about the 4k as an issue. Read about the change in new drives but never though. |
| 02:38.44 | TheWarden | thought* |
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| 02:43.22 | somiaj | heoa: I like lftp |
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| 03:02.09 | tuv | can anyone apt-update from deb-multimedia? the website says it won't work with aptitude, but should work with apt-get. both result in 'Hash sum mismatch' errors for me |
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| 03:16.29 | anisfarhana | Hello again! |
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| 03:17.00 | anisfarhana | I'm having problem with my VPS, currently running on debian squeeze. |
| 03:17.11 | anisfarhana | The problem is with read only file system. |
| 03:17.38 | anisfarhana | Seem like nothing i can do with the box. |
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| 03:18.55 | tuv | can anyone apt-update from deb-multimedia? the website says it won't work with aptitude, but should work with apt-get. both result in 'Hash sum mismatch' errors for me |
| 03:19.48 | tuv | anisfarhana: check the logs: dmesg, syslog. find out why it's not mounted read-write |
| 03:22.25 | anisfarhana | tuv: http://pastebin.ws/6xsfwy , i found this , does this helping you? |
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| 03:26.47 | anisfarhana | tuv: running e2fsck right now. |
| 03:27.52 | tuv | anisfarhana: looks like fsck should fix it |
| 03:27.58 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps know of any good explanations of the /etc/limit.conf options are at? i dont even know what half of this stuff is.. |
| 03:30.22 | anisfarhana | tuv: hopefully. |
| 03:31.19 | Eryn_1983_FL | nm |
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| 03:33.08 | anisfarhana | tuv: nope, fsck failed. |
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| 03:33.33 | anisfarhana | tuv: I am going to re-format it again. |
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| 03:46.36 | wakiki | Hi somehow my RAID 1 array split into 2 arrays and they now have different data on it - I'm not sure how to mount the correct one and re-integrate them - can anyone help? I'm using debian squeeze |
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| 03:49.09 | lowtax | mornin |
| 03:50.19 | someHUMON | lowtax#redpipe@free: test |
| 03:50.27 | wakiki | morning lowtax |
| 03:50.35 | wakiki | can you help me with my last question? |
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| 03:50.42 | wakiki | Somehow my RAID 1 array split into 2 arrays and they now have different data on it - I'm not sure how to mount the correct one and re-integrate them - can anyone help? I'm using debian squeeze |
| 03:51.42 | someHUMON | lowtax#redpipe@free: software raid? |
| 03:52.13 | lowtax | i really have no idea |
| 03:54.11 | wakiki | hi yes software raid |
| 03:54.14 | gnat_x | wakiki: what's the output of: cat /proc/mdstat ? |
| 03:55.22 | wakiki | gnat_x: output is http://pastie.org/private/tqeerlm8emgp8sxmlhlq |
| 03:55.48 | wakiki | basically md1 and md0 is the correct ones but somehow md126/md127 got created and it's loading that instead |
| 03:56.22 | someHUMON | lowtax#redpipe@free: lol ouch |
| 03:56.25 | someHUMON | lowtax#redpipe@free: thats crazy |
| 03:57.57 | lowtax | woops... |
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| 04:00.23 | wakiki | yeah it's pretty bad… any help would be appreciated |
| 04:00.37 | lowtax | how much data is it... |
| 04:00.48 | lowtax | i mean you could always restart |
| 04:00.57 | lowtax | maybe gnat has idea |
| 04:01.22 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peps did i do this right? http://sprunge.us/ZSib |
| 04:01.33 | Eryn_1983_FL | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:05.51 | Eryn_1983_FL | i got it |
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| 04:17.16 | darkelfjuggalo | Does anyone have Experience with Keypass2 on Debian? if so what are your thoughts of it? |
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| 04:18.39 | grothendieck | darkelfjuggalo: it is useful |
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| 04:26.27 | wamp3ter | basically uxterm prints utf8 characters as nnnn . wondering if anybody could help out |
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| 04:51.52 | grothendieck | "does it work properly in unstable?" -- I think that question should answer itself... |
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| 05:02.54 | darkelfjuggalo | i just attempted to install keepass2 through the terminal, and neither apt-get or Aptitude can find the package |
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| 05:03.32 | darkelfjuggalo | do i need to add unstable to my sources? |
| 05:05.01 | darkelfjuggalo | ok i just noticed it is sid unstable... is it Squeeze compatible? |
| 05:08.46 | Coweater | you shouldn't mix sources |
| 05:12.01 | Coweater | !ssb |
| 05:12.01 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
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| 06:26.47 | haylo | how can i get apt-get to list me installed packages without listing dependencies or libraries or anything ? I found how to do it in aptitude, but so many people use apt-get i want to get to the bottom of this |
| 06:26.51 | chalcedony | :) |
| 06:27.24 | chalcedony | until today i had two monitors. but the one with my controls died. |
| 06:28.04 | chalcedony | the instructions with my new monitor are to start it with them both off |
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| 06:29.18 | jeep | haylo: dpkg -l <-- L |
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| 06:30.06 | jeep | haylo: that lists everything so i do dpkg -l |grep search-item |
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| 06:30.59 | jeep | haylo: dpkg has more options but i dont know them off top of my head |
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| 06:31.14 | dioz | options like my car |
| 06:31.16 | dioz | wut wut! |
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| 06:34.29 | nsadmin | jeep, dpkg --help is a summary |
| 06:34.35 | chalcedony | until today i had two monitors working |
| 06:34.35 | chalcedony | my CRT died |
| 06:34.35 | chalcedony | the instructions with my new monitor say it's supposed to be started with the computer and monitor off |
| 06:34.35 | chalcedony | do i really have to do that? |
| 06:34.35 | chalcedony | shutting down is a bit problematic, i use gnome on debian and the controls are on the monitor that isn't working |
| 06:34.45 | nsadmin | might wanna feed it thru less |
| 06:34.56 | chalcedony | less is nice |
| 06:35.24 | nsadmin | nice is more? |
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| 06:36.13 | chalcedony | would useful have been a better word than 'nice'? |
| 06:36.21 | nsadmin | I'd return that monitor; having the computer off is an unreasonable requirement |
| 06:37.09 | nsadmin | chalcedony, I agree, it's nice and useful |
| 06:37.17 | chalcedony | do you suppose i'll break anything if i ignore them? |
| 06:37.23 | dioz | chalcedony: does it have warranty? |
| 06:37.24 | nsadmin | dunno |
| 06:37.38 | dioz | if so let her buck |
| 06:37.44 | dioz | if it wrecks just exchange it |
| 06:37.46 | dioz | wham bam |
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| 06:56.28 | Snoork | hi. So - having an issue with an apparently out of date server running Lenny. I am trying to update to php 5.3 (or at least 5.2.7) but it seems the packages it's looking for no longer exist? |
| 06:56.51 | Snoork | I am getting 404 failed to fetch for a lot of stuff running aptitude upgrade or dist-upgrade |
| 06:57.37 | Snoork | i've added the dotdeb sources to apt |
| 06:57.44 | Snoork | for php53 |
| 06:57.56 | gnarface | dpkg, tell Snoork about lenny |
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| 07:00.53 | Snoork | so many errors :I anyone? |
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| 07:07.40 | gnarface | Snoork: didn't dpkg give you info? |
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| 07:08.53 | oggei | hi |
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| 07:24.54 | chalcedony | doesn't look like it blew anything up to connect and turn on the new one, but new one has an "input not supported" tag |
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| 07:25.25 | chalcedony | i sort of need it working to get to the controls in debian gnome |
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| 07:28.03 | Snoork | so uhm, anyone able to tell me the latest version of php available on lenny in the archive repos? |
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| 07:28.57 | gnarface | Snoork: you can ignore me but nobody is gonna tell you different. upgrade to squeeze first. |
| 07:28.58 | nsadmin | , versions php |
| 07:28.59 | judd | No package named 'php' was found in i386. |
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| 07:29.13 | gnarface | nsadmin: its not in squeeze either. |
| 07:29.19 | nsadmin | that's not definitive, I must have the wrong name |
| 07:29.26 | gnarface | nsadmin: but the 5.2.6 patched version should be sufficient |
| 07:29.27 | Snoork | sorry, i am not trying to ignore |
| 07:29.30 | gnarface | ,versions php5 |
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| 07:29.31 | judd | Package: php5 on i386 -- lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny16; lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny16; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze8; squeeze-proposed-updates: 5.3.3-7+squeeze13; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze13; squeeze-proposed-updates: 5.3.3-7+squeeze14; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze14; wheezy: 5.4.4-4; sid: 5.4.4-7; experimental: 5.4.6-1; experimental: 5.4.6-2 |
| 07:29.36 | Snoork | i totally pooched the update before |
| 07:29.48 | gnarface | oh my bad, squeeze DOES have 5.3.3 now |
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| 07:29.54 | gnarface | i didn't think that was gonna happen |
| 07:29.56 | Snoork | right, so 5.2.6 is the highest i'm going to manage on lenny then I take it, without serious trouble |
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| 07:30.25 | nsadmin | Snoork, so, 5.2.6 |
| 07:30.28 | Snoork | I don't *really* want to upgrade to squeeze on at 5.30pm on a friday afternoon if i can avoid it :I |
| 07:30.37 | Snoork | but it seems like I can't |
| 07:30.48 | gnarface | well the timing is clearly bad |
| 07:31.00 | nsadmin | isn't any php5 ok? |
| 07:31.09 | gnarface | but you know what they say... the best time to plant an oak tree was 50 fucking years ago. the second best time is right fucking now. |
| 07:31.33 | Snoork | sadly not, apparently require minimum 5.2.7 or ideally 5.3 |
| 07:31.36 | nsadmin | OR, right fucking now! |
| 07:31.52 | Snoork | damn webdevs |
| 07:32.19 | Snoork | uhm. so. Another potentially silly question. upgrading to Etch - am I doing to lose config? |
| 07:32.22 | Snoork | sorry |
| 07:32.23 | Snoork | squeeze |
| 07:32.26 | Snoork | *brainfart* |
| 07:32.31 | gnarface | Snoork: well, lets talk about how you botched the update. earlier when i told dpkg to tell you about lenny and you ignored me (3 times in a row actually) |
| 07:32.39 | nsadmin | there is openacs which uses tcl which unlike php has been rock-solid stabile for years |
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| 07:32.48 | gnarface | Snoork: back then the bot told you the answer to your initial problem, you just didn't read it |
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| 07:33.12 | gnarface | Snoork: it actually then mentioned that it has specific instructions on how to fix it too |
| 07:33.14 | Snoork | I sqe you mention it |
| 07:33.17 | Snoork | but dpkg did not message me? |
| 07:33.20 | Snoork | in channel or out of it |
| 07:33.27 | Snoork | i am using miranda IM though, it's IRC client is kind of crap |
| 07:33.36 | gnarface | hmm. dpkg said it did.... |
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| 07:33.46 | gnarface | maybe at the server log? |
| 07:34.04 | gnarface | that's gonna be a crippling factor too for the time being (not having a viable IRC client) |
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| 07:34.08 | Snoork | well it may have but miranda may not have caught it. i have no messages from dpkg anyway, that i can see, in server window, this one or any others |
| 07:34.26 | gnarface | Snoork: try this: /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze |
| 07:34.39 | gnarface | (without any leading spaces) |
| 07:35.04 | gnarface | Snoork: then look for any new text popping up within seconds from dpkg in any channel |
| 07:35.23 | Snoork | ah. stupid client. apparently i deliberatle need to open a chat window to dpkg to see any messages it's been leaving me |
| 07:35.40 | gnarface | Snoork: there is probably a configuration option for that |
| 07:36.39 | Snoork | quite possibly. anyway I see it's messages now |
| 07:37.01 | gnarface | ok so when it says "ask me about" you can just msg it again with the txt in the brackets and it will tell you that |
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| 07:37.21 | gnarface | ask it about all the stuff it tells you that seems relevant, lenny ,archives, lenny->squeeze, lenny sources.list, etc |
| 07:37.51 | Snoork | hokay. gonna clone this sucker and attempt the upgrade then |
| 07:38.03 | gnarface | Snoork: yes, a full backup is a good idea |
| 07:38.08 | Snoork | if I hose the hell out of it mr webdev can go bite his bum and i'm gonna go home and beer. |
| 07:38.48 | KsM | W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/mirror.optus.net_debian-multimedia_dists_testing_main_binary-i386_Packages Hash Sum mismatch |
| 07:38.48 | KsM | E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. |
| 07:38.49 | KsM | hm |
| 07:38.50 | gnarface | Snoork: the release notes may save you some trouble. so far i haven't seen any problems myself with anything but mysql but you know... mileage may vary |
| 07:39.09 | Snoork | well this is a lamp setup so mysql quirks could be problematic |
| 07:39.11 | Snoork | we'll see |
| 07:39.41 | gnarface | Snoork: *definitely* read the release notes then, and *definitely* make sure you use the archive to have a fully-up-to-date lenny BEFORE you upgrade to squeeze |
| 07:39.55 | gnarface | Snoork: most issues are just to do with starting from a version of lenny that wasn't final |
| 07:39.58 | Snoork | just did the full archive lenny upgrade |
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| 07:40.24 | gnarface | Snoork: for me, mysql didn't *break* it just got skipped in the upgrade and i had to go back to hit it manually afterwards |
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| 07:40.51 | Snoork | fair enough. might not even bother me temporarily all i need is updated php currently |
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| 07:43.53 | krion | hi |
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| 07:46.50 | Snoork | hmm getting an error on squeeze apt-get update |
| 07:47.03 | Snoork | failed to fetch from.. oh |
| 07:47.11 | Snoork | heh. i guess debian "aqueeze" doesn't exist.. |
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| 07:48.26 | Snoork | this this doesn't make drupal die i'll be shocked |
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| 07:53.52 | nsadmin | Snoork, iirc, you're running lenny not squeeze... or do I have that wrong? |
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| 07:54.13 | Snoork | yes, correct |
| 07:54.20 | Snoork | most of the way through upgrade currently |
| 07:54.39 | Snoork | just installed new kernel |
| 07:54.55 | Snoork | fingers cross the dist upgrade goes ok and and i can gtfo shortly |
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| 07:56.30 | nsadmin | Ive heard some good things about drupal... it's too bad that it uses both mysql -and- php |
| 07:57.12 | nsadmin | anyway, good luck |
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| 07:57.21 | krion | nsadmin: not mysql only afaik |
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| 07:57.40 | Snoork | well in my limited experience so far it's far less painful than joomla |
| 07:57.44 | krion | i'm running it on postgresl right now |
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| 07:57.58 | nsadmin | oh ok, what pg version |
| 07:58.00 | nsadmin | "?? |
| 07:58.15 | krion | hum, 9.1 iirc |
| 07:58.21 | krion | let me check |
| 07:58.55 | krion | 8.4 for me |
| 07:59.22 | krion | don't remember if it support 9.1 too. trough the postgresql support is stamped experimental, of course :) |
| 08:00.37 | nsadmin | I'm running an openacs instance on pg-8.3 |
| 08:01.23 | gnarface | hey does anyone happen to know what was the last version of the nvidia proprietary drivers to support powersaving properly? |
| 08:01.49 | gnarface | (on the GTX 5xx series cards) it would have to have been something before 295.71 |
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| 08:03.02 | Snoork | ok, so! mostly success but possibly mysql issue(s) |
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| 08:03.48 | Snoork | "can't connect to local mysql server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) |
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| 08:05.47 | Snoork | hmm. seems mysql-server went missing during the upgrade.. |
| 08:05.49 | gnarface | Snoork: could be off by default or the path could have moved, or it could just be broken cause it didn't upgrade. check the version and the config file |
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| 08:06.04 | gnarface | Snoork: or if it really dissappeared, yea just install it |
| 08:06.08 | Snoork | and now that it is installed, all good! _b |
| 08:06.21 | gnarface | Snoork: drupal didnt even break in any obvious ways? |
| 08:06.26 | Snoork | apparently not! |
| 08:06.41 | Snoork | colour me both surprised, and pleased. |
| 08:06.52 | Snoork | also thanks very much for your assistance(s) |
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| 08:07.27 | gnarface | !next |
| 08:07.28 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 08:08.05 | gnarface | Snoork: sometimes it works the way its supposed to (mostly) - i'd keep that backup around for a bit. just in case though |
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| 08:09.04 | MO_Handes | is there any program to remove and repair missing parts of a movie during a torrent download? |
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| 08:12.58 | Snoork | yeah I always do. the many and manifold benefits of a totally virtual environment |
| 08:13.15 | Snoork | now i'm stuck talking to the webdev who is a dedicated cpanel / phpmyadmin user |
| 08:13.16 | Snoork | SIGH |
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| 08:31.03 | yxa | hi is there a non-x tool for me dump system info like hardware specs, ram, ip address, etc? |
| 08:32.13 | daimrod | ifconfig/lshw/lspci/… |
| 08:33.24 | ChrisH | yxa: sysinfo might be it... or google for linux-explorer which should collect lots of data analog to sun explorer.... but this collection is expected to contain logfiles and config and is mainly for support use |
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| 08:36.27 | enlightified | gnarface: ty for yesterday. got codeblocks working today. |
| 08:36.40 | MO_Handes | is there any program to remove and repair missing parts of a movie during a torrent download? |
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| 08:37.12 | gnarface | enlightified: no problem |
| 08:37.57 | enlightified | And I am wiser today, though still not a penny richer. :) |
| 08:37.59 | gnarface | enlightified: i'm having trouble remembering how i helped, i'm sure it was just a lucky guess |
| 08:38.09 | enlightified | schroot. |
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| 08:39.01 | gnarface | hmm. |
| 08:39.18 | gnarface | for some reason in my memory that was someone else |
| 08:39.24 | gnarface | maybe i was just drunk |
| 08:39.40 | gnarface | you're welcome though anyway |
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| 08:41.58 | Sevet | yxa: dmidecode |
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| 08:46.32 | yxa | thanks |
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| 08:47.22 | help_ent | hi -- I tried to install debian testing on my laptop (amd64 beta 1 installer), it gets stuck at the network configuration part. tried the graphical install and text mode install they both fail |
| 08:47.23 | thewanderer1 | I realize this may be a bit off-topic, but any ideas how Raspbian is related to Debian? or if Wheezy will run on Raspberry Pi natively? wondering what distro I should use on the raspi. |
| 08:47.35 | SiDz | when i make change in /etc/adduser.conf, name_regex, do i have to restart something? |
| 08:47.51 | SiDz | cause I still can'T add user with capital letter |
| 08:47.58 | SiDz | without --force-badname |
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| 08:48.17 | SiDz | NAME_REGEX="^[A-Za-z][-A-Za-z0-9]*\$" |
| 08:49.26 | babilen | thewanderer1: #raspbian might know - I, at least, do not :) |
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| 08:52.15 | thewanderer1 | SiDz, out of curiosity, can you add a user with a non-capital letter? |
| 08:53.01 | babilen | help_ent: Are you connected via ethernet? Is a DCHP server running that should have replied to your request? Which NIC do you use and does it need firmware? |
| 08:53.18 | SiDz | nope thewanderer1 |
| 08:53.28 | help_ent | babilen: no, ideally i want to connect using wifi |
| 08:53.57 | help_ent | i have an ethernet cable too, i'll try |
| 08:53.58 | SiDz | even when i use the default name_regex of debian |
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| 08:54.02 | babilen | help_ent: Ok, that is an important piece of information. Which wireless adaptor do you have? |
| 08:54.11 | SiDz | by uncomenting the line, i can't add a user with no capital letter |
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| 08:54.55 | babilen | SiDz: So in short: You can not add any user regardless of capitalization? |
| 08:54.56 | thewanderer1 | SiDz, I think the default is broken, and also POSIX regex is insane :P |
| 08:55.02 | thewanderer1 | sec, I'll get you a patch |
| 08:56.18 | SiDz | babilen if i comment the line name_regex in adduser.conf, i can add user with no capital letter |
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| 08:56.32 | SiDz | but if i use the default regex.. can't add anything |
| 08:56.33 | thewanderer1 | SiDz, NAME_REGEX="^[A-Za-z][-A-Za-z0-9]*$" |
| 08:56.39 | SiDz | trying:) |
| 08:56.43 | thewanderer1 | notice that I removed the backslash |
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| 08:57.24 | SiDz | yep i see |
| 08:57.26 | SiDz | it's working:) |
| 08:57.30 | SiDz | thank you |
| 08:58.21 | SiDz | while installing debian, can i change the adduser.conf, so the first user debian install add could be added with capital letter? |
| 08:59.05 | thewanderer1 | unlikely - but you can refrain from adding any users in the installer, and add them after install |
| 08:59.24 | SiDz | right |
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| 09:00.31 | help_ent | tried with ethernet. i get stuck too |
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| 09:01.13 | luftikuss | I'd like to change from Debian 6.0.5 to Debain wheezy. '# apt-get dist-upgrade' obtains: "0 updated, 0 removed, and 0 not updated." I tried to follow http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/2011/02/msg00329.html. Which was obviously not successful. What is the proper command? |
| 09:01.36 | help_ent | usually, how long does the network configuration/detection part take? been leaving the computer on at the network detection part since a few minutes ago |
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| 09:02.12 | ChrisH | help_ent: few seconds... check another terminal for messages..eg ALT-F4 |
| 09:02.27 | help_ent | you mean ctrl+alt+f4? |
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| 09:03.02 | ChrisH | help_ent: if you are on a graphical installer... yes. |
| 09:03.15 | help_ent | ok, trying |
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| 09:04.42 | ChrisH | dpkg tell luftikuss about squeeze->wheezy |
| 09:04.46 | help_ent | some lines say "missing modules eth1394"... so i need firmware, even for ethernet? |
| 09:05.06 | ChrisH | eth1394 should be firewire network |
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| 09:06.49 | help_ent | the ethernet cable is plugged correctly (green/yellow LEDs), but I don't see the computer's IP in the list of connected computers on my router's web interface |
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| 09:07.27 | help_ent | (however, the ethernet port is marked as "used") |
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| 09:09.54 | help_ent | ChrisH: do you think getting a netinst installer with the nonfree firmware will help? |
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| 09:14.26 | MySystem | hello i have a problem with my debian server i get "broken pipe" if iam connected via ssh and the java apllication (craftbukkit) crash at the same time sometimes i found the server completly haltet (only the power led glows but motherboard is off) |
| 09:14.28 | ChrisH | help_ent: What nic is it? does ifconfig -a show any assigen IPs? |
| 09:14.41 | MySystem | where can i found logs or imformations abaout whats happend |
| 09:14.59 | luftikuss | ChrisH: My computer is lively now fetching files. |
| 09:16.02 | ChrisH | MySystem: the poeroff is the root cause... broken pipe and crashed Java are expected to be follow ups... check /var/log for ideas what happened |
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| 09:19.16 | MySystem | thx will look |
| 09:19.55 | help_ent | can't type the command, it does nothing |
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| 09:20.19 | infoclogged | small question about gnome. |
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| 09:20.39 | infoclogged | is there any explorer like krusader in gnome? |
| 09:20.58 | luftikuss | ChrisH: Is dpkg a bot? Where can I find its instructions for use? |
| 09:21.41 | luftikuss | infoclogged: Look for Nautilus. |
| 09:21.43 | help_ent | (tried in the ctrl+alt+f4, but also in ctrl+alt+f1 and ctrl+alt+f2) |
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| 09:24.03 | infoclogged | luftikuss: the package manager says it is installed, but there is no entry in the menu. |
| 09:24.05 | ChrisH | luftikuss: /msg dpkg help see topic |
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| 09:24.57 | ChrisH | help_ent: The ifconfig needs to be typed on ALT-F3 ALT-F4 Terminal is output only during installation phase |
| 09:25.15 | infoclogged | well,i am looking for something like krusader or total commander which has got two panes. |
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| 09:25.23 | infoclogged | and that for gnome. |
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| 09:27.31 | luftikuss | infoclogged: What »menu« are you speaking about? You should be able to start Nautilus by keying in a terminal 'nautilus' or may be 'gksu nautilus'. |
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| 09:29.29 | ChrisH | help_ent: /sbin/ifconfig -a |
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| 09:33.19 | help_ent | have to go now, bye |
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| 09:37.02 | infoclogged | luftikuss: i am able to run the program, but does nautilus has two panes like krusader or total commander? |
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| 09:38.08 | luftikuss | infoclogged: Yes, if you want. Please press the F3 key. |
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| 09:39.43 | help_ent | back.. i should try getting the debian CD images instead since they don't require internet connection, but how many should i get? |
| 09:39.47 | help_ent | also, do these work on usb keys? |
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| 09:43.20 | RegexRon | Anyone know if you can connect to a samba share w/o a user name and password, just with the homegroup password.. like when you connect with windows? |
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| 09:45.37 | MySystem | anonymous acces or so is a checkbox in my kubuntu for smb |
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| 09:45.57 | flash_ | RegexRon, you need "share" level access rather than "user" |
| 09:46.17 | flash_ | that removes the need for any password, I don't know anything about homegroup |
| 09:46.28 | MySystem | i found two lines in my /var/log/syslog.1:" |
| 09:46.28 | MySystem | Sep 6 20:47:58 weakserver /usr/sbin/cron[975]: (CRON) STARTUP (fork ok) |
| 09:46.28 | MySystem | Sep 6 20:47:58 weakserver /usr/sbin/cron[975]: (CRON) INFO (Running @reboot jobs) |
| 09:46.28 | MySystem | " |
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| 09:47.00 | MySystem | what does this mean or can this be the reason for my strange shutdowns? |
| 09:47.01 | RegexRon | flash_: What does that mean? |
| 09:47.22 | RegexRon | I don't care aboout it being anonymous |
| 09:47.26 | RegexRon | I just wanna connect |
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| 09:47.44 | RegexRon | But I dont have his user name and password.. cause i dont need it when I connect from my windows install |
| 09:48.05 | ChrisH | MySystem: No.. thats crons message on a reboot.. The relevant ones must be before |
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| 09:48.35 | MySystem | nice to know then iam on the right way thx |
| 09:49.03 | flash_ | RegexRon, change "security=user" to "security=share" in /etc/samba/smb.conf and restart samba. But try and understand the implications |
| 09:49.17 | flash_ | RegexRon, the individual shares can also override it |
| 09:49.38 | RegexRon | I am using smb4k |
| 09:49.59 | RegexRon | flash_: And If I do that where do I put the homegroup password? |
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| 09:50.46 | MySystem | the only thing in syslog befor is "acpid" becuase befor this there is kernel start prozess and after is the cron @restart |
| 09:52.16 | flash_ | RegexRon, that won't make it a part of homegroup. Just go to \\server-ip in explorer |
| 09:52.20 | flash_ | or map the drive |
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| 09:52.39 | flash_ | try and stop your mind thinking about microsoft phrases like that! |
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| 09:54.07 | RegexRon | flash_: I think you misunderstood.. to join a windows homegroup in windows 7 you need to provide the security key.. |
| 09:54.47 | flash_ | I did say I know nothing about that, but you do not need to use homegroups in win7 to use or mount a samba share |
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| 09:54.57 | ChrisH | MySystem: cd /var/log/ && ls -rtl ; and search for file before syslog.1 check them and if usure pastebin them.... Is the HW and power stable? |
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| 09:55.09 | flash_ | homegroups != samba or windows networking |
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| 09:55.23 | MySystem | HW? |
| 09:55.36 | RegexRon | flash_: After changing and restarting smb... it still wants username/pass but now says domain |
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| 09:56.00 | RegexRon | I also changed my samba homegroup to MSHOME to match but it didnt change.. |
| 09:56.20 | RegexRon | flash_: What are you talking about.. |
| 09:56.23 | flash_ | The share itself may be overriding |
| 09:56.28 | MySystem | HardWare??? |
| 09:56.35 | flash_ | but I'm starting to feel frustrated with this conversation so moving on... |
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| 09:57.07 | RegexRon | Yea you are not getting what I am trying to do lol, but thanks for trying |
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| 09:57.33 | flash_ | np, good luck |
| 09:57.34 | RegexRon | You see when you connect in windows you need to be part of the homegroup and to do that you need the security key from the first machine |
| 09:57.59 | RegexRon | Once you have that key you can access any shares, no usernames, or passwords needed. |
| 09:58.09 | flash_ | you don't if you're just trying to mount a remote samba share, but nm |
| 09:58.47 | ChrisH | MySystem: HW == Hardware |
| 09:58.55 | flash_ | I'm running a mixed network of winxp, win7, vista and linux machines all sharing a central file server running samba - and nowhere is homegroup used |
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| 10:00.45 | help_ent | how many debian testing CDs should i get if i want a desktop environment and stuff like that? 2? |
| 10:01.08 | help_ent | can you burn the CD images with unetbootin so that they work on usb drivers (the non-netinst ones)? |
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| 10:01.23 | RegexRon | flash_: That is great.. but I am not running a samba server.. so...? |
| 10:01.26 | p0g0 | flash_: I had some winxp boxen recently get an MS update the set the Win firewall to exclude SMB... to get win7 or the XP boxen happy, I needed to re-tweak the firewall. |
| 10:01.42 | RegexRon | The Drive I am trying to connect to is on a WINDOWS machine, I told you that 3 times |
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| 10:02.03 | RegexRon | Its s shared drive on a windows network |
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| 10:03.39 | p0g0 | RegexRon: fwiw, the OS2 style Server Messenger Block networking tech is what Microsoft calls "Windows Networking"... aka SMB networks, aka SAMBA... |
| 10:04.19 | RegexRon | I know that |
| 10:04.25 | luftikuss | ChrisH: '~$ most /etc/debian_version; wheezy/sid'. But it does not state any release number. Is this normal? |
| 10:04.46 | MySystem | k i think i can say its not stable as it have to be and the problem accours after i removed the graphic adapter and switchted to onboard graphic but because of errors i reinstalled the graphic adapter and syslog befor i think you mean something whivch is in date befor syslog.1 i found syslg.2.gz but dont know how to paste it (there is no network file transfer protokol installed on the server or a x system to have a browser)and the "scp" co |
| 10:04.47 | RegexRon | flash_ was confused on what I was trying to do is all. |
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| 10:07.08 | RegexRon | flash_: The machine with the shared drive is a windows 7 machine, to get access to it I need to be part of its homegroup or have the username and password. So I am trying to see if there is a way to have my linux box join its homegroup somehow. |
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| 10:09.50 | MySystem | but in syslog.1 there is the point i shut down and installed graphic and all from then |
| 10:09.56 | d1rkp1tt | Hi All, have just installed debian 6, followed by vnc4server, but vnc takes me to a grey screen with terminal |
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| 10:10.38 | MySystem | found some older syslogs in a gz format |
| 10:11.11 | d1rkp1tt | Why would vnc take me to a grey screen with terminal and not my desktop... |
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| 10:12.51 | MySystem | would like to pastebin the syslog.1 and the 2 but no idea how to get this file from server |
| 10:13.29 | themill | d1rkp1tt: you're creating a new virtual X session with vnc server. If you want to see an existing X session, you need x11vnc |
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| 10:13.41 | ChrisH | luftikuss: yes... only stable versions get version numbers |
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| 10:14.09 | luftikuss | ChrisH: I see. -- Thank you very much for your help. |
| 10:14.45 | d1rkp1tt | themill, What is a virtual C session? |
| 10:14.48 | d1rkp1tt | X session |
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| 10:15.31 | themill | d1rkp1tt: one that exists only in your vnc server; it's not displayed on the hardware. |
| 10:15.37 | ChrisH | luftikuss: your welcome |
| 10:16.07 | help_ent | how many debian testing CDs should i get if i want a desktop environment and stuff like that? 2? can you burn the CD images with unetbootin so that they work on usb drivers (the non-netinst ones)? |
| 10:16.59 | yeats | help_ent: you just need CD 1 - yes, you can use unetbootin |
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| 10:17.27 | help_ent | yeats: yes but the testing installer errata say one CD is not enough to get a fully functional desktop environment (i want xfce) |
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| 10:17.51 | yeats | help_ent: why not netinst? |
| 10:18.01 | d1rkp1tt | themill, sorry, killed the wrong vnc when testing that |
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| 10:18.20 | d1rkp1tt | themill, I have tried x11vnc, vnc4server, and one other |
| 10:18.31 | d1rkp1tt | I didnt here what the x session was, if you did respond to that |
| 10:18.36 | help_ent | yeats: netinst does not work on my laptop. tried both ethernet and wifi |
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| 10:19.13 | yeats | help_ent: I would use CD 1 to install a basic system and install xfce once you're up and running |
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| 10:19.23 | MySystem | @chrisH do you have an idea how to send the syslog.1 to my desktop pc without installing and config a complete network file transfer protokol |
| 10:19.36 | help_ent | yeats: ok then :) |
| 10:19.55 | berarma | MySystem: ssh? |
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| 10:20.11 | TheUnknown2012 | Hi, i need a solution to control the server access (SSH - via Key Auth) on about 20 - 100 Server so if someone leave the team i dont have to delete his key from every machine |
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| 10:20.41 | MySystem | i know scp but iam to stupid or dont understand the usement of it from googles sites |
| 10:20.43 | help_ent | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/wheezy_di_beta1/amd64/iso-cd/ - should I get debian-wheezy-DI-b1-amd64-CD-1.iso or debian-wheezy-DI-b1-amd64-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso? I heard xfce was the default DE so is the xfce image still needed? |
| 10:21.00 | berarma | MySystem: man scp |
| 10:21.22 | ChrisH | TheUnknown2012: depending on the number of users AllowUsers from man sshd_config might be usefull |
| 10:21.30 | berarma | MySystem: your desktop pc should have a ssh server running |
| 10:22.32 | TheUnknown2012 | ChrisH: There are about 25 Users - but how to centralize the management of this? Do you know a ready soluition for this problem? |
| 10:22.36 | ChrisH | MySystem: please do not use @ChrisH as this will not trigger the IRC client's highlighting and I might not see it. scp/sfp might be an option. |
| 10:22.57 | ChrisH | TheUnknown2012: NIS, LDAP, ... |
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| 10:23.43 | TheUnknown2012 | ChrisH: LDAP would be nice but i dont have the infrastructure for that - i need a standalone solution for auth - is radius an option? |
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| 10:24.04 | yeats | TheUnknown2012: we have a similar situation where I work. We use openvpn on a gateway server. We also have users who are ssh keyed for that same server, then keyed from that server to the others - that way we just remove their key/vpn access when they don't need access anymore. We also use sudo to manage root perms on the individual servers |
| 10:24.09 | MySystem | ok without @ ssh server is no problem it runs on every machine with linux in the network but dont get it how to format the programm arguments |
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| 10:24.42 | ChrisH | TheUnknown2012: Radius might be, but I do not know for sure. |
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| 10:25.16 | help_ent | i'm downloading the xfce image right now |
| 10:25.16 | berarma | MySystem: it's really simple: scp filename othermachine:dest_directory |
| 10:25.19 | TheUnknown2012 | yeats: Okay, I understand but so I have to add the keys of new member manuelly to the Servers because everyone has his own key? |
| 10:25.37 | ChrisH | MySystem: a 'ChrisH' a the beginning of a line is OK. Only drop the @ -- |
| 10:25.38 | TheUnknown2012 | ChrisH: Okay i will check that - else i will look for how easy it is to have ldap |
| 10:25.49 | luftikuss | [Debian wheezy/sid xfce4] Pressing the button »«Web Browser« produces: "Couldn't execute the preferred Web browser. I/O error." My preferred Web browser is Firefox, and it is installed. How to anylyze this error further in order to fix? |
| 10:25.51 | yeats | MySystem: example: 'scp user@remotehostname:/path/to/file /new/path/to/file/on/local/host' |
| 10:26.43 | berarma | luftikuss: ll /etc/alternatives/gnome-www-browser |
| 10:26.52 | ChrisH | luftikuss: check /etc/alternatives directory and/or start it using a terminal |
| 10:26.53 | d1rkp1tt | Anyone else know how to get vnc working? |
| 10:27.16 | yeats | TheUnknown2012: 'for i in `cat listofserveripsorhostnames.txt`; do ssh-copy-id user@$i; done' |
| 10:27.25 | help_ent | luftikuss: this happened to me too. try starting the browser itself |
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| 10:27.45 | MySystem | chrisH: ah ok |
| 10:27.46 | MySystem | i try it again with scp it looks realy simple |
| 10:28.32 | MySystem | a stupid question how do i end "man" ctrl+c dont work |
| 10:28.41 | berarma | MySystem: q |
| 10:28.48 | MySystem | lol |
| 10:28.56 | TheUnknown2012 | yeats: thank you - i will have a look at this option :) |
| 10:30.03 | berarma | MySystem: you can also use nautilus or other file browser to access the other machine with location: ssh://user@machinename:/dir |
| 10:30.07 | yeats | TheUnknown2012: you're welcome - not as fancy as LDAP or NIS, but it works okay |
| 10:31.13 | TheUnknown2012 | yeats: Yes but I didnt know much about ldap so a solution .D |
| 10:31.17 | MySystem | oh thats much easyier for x users but with the two lines from yeats and you i get it with scp |
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| 10:32.41 | MySystem | is there a higlite on pastebin for logs? |
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| 10:35.19 | ChrisH | MySystem: select none |
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| 10:39.00 | MySystem | http://pastebin.com/myNd2C30 |
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| 10:39.13 | MySystem | http://pastebin.com/3KQY36WW |
| 10:39.23 | jillsmitt | how to find out process has been added in startup? |
| 10:39.46 | jillsmitt | how to show which services and programs my system starts after boot? |
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| 10:40.44 | MySystem | for info the server runs stable since yesterday but the java app(craftbukkit) is not startet since yesterday (wont let it crash so much ) |
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| 10:41.07 | arakno | hi all. Is there some intelligent reason i cant chroot from an armel platform into an arm chroot? |
| 10:41.11 | infoclogged | getting an error while compiling a module : /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common/include/linux/prefetch.h:14:27: error: asm/processor.h: No such file or directory |
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| 10:43.18 | Sevet | jillsmitt: try sysv-rc-conf |
| 10:43.49 | ChrisH | MySystem: http://pastebin.com/myNd2C30 lines 1918- There is something wrong with one Disk and all the others are halt or reboot commands |
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| 10:44.11 | Sevet | jillsmitt: or just 'ls /etc/rc?.d/S*' (but less readable) |
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| 10:45.30 | MySystem | i see it now how have you found this in line 1918 so fast |
| 10:45.30 | jillsmitt | both are cool |
| 10:45.31 | jillsmitt | thanks |
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| 10:46.06 | luftikuss | berarma: Bash did not find the command 'll'. -- '~$ ls /etc/alternatives/gnome-www-browser; Access to /etc/alternatives/gnome-www.browser not possible: File or directory not found.' '~$ ls /etc/alternatives/' does not list any file gnome-www-browser*. '~$ firefox; bash: firefox: Command not found." |
| 10:46.22 | MySystem | its an old maxtor ide 80gb thats possible is there a way i can check the / partition? |
| 10:46.50 | berarma | luftikuss: that could be the problem, I think gnome uses that |
| 10:47.03 | berarma | luftikuss: have you installed the gnome package? |
| 10:47.08 | ChrisH | MySystem: http://pastebin.com/3KQY36WW lines 1424-1429 looks like reset or powerfailure |
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| 10:47.39 | ChrisH | MySystem: I am working in UNIX Support for more then 15 years now and get paid to see this kind of problem quick... |
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| 10:48.52 | luftikuss | berarma: No. (Not yet.) I thought it is available from the old operating system and '~# apt-get dist-upgrade' would take care of this. |
| 10:50.05 | berarma | luftikuss: it should but which upgrade have you done? |
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| 10:50.57 | luftikuss | berarma: A dist-upgrade from Debian 6.0.5 to wheezy/sid. |
| 10:51.14 | MySystem | ok the second point i dont see anything instead of a reboot without reason |
| 10:51.30 | berarma | luftikuss: wheezy/sid???? |
| 10:51.37 | luftikuss | berarma: I hasten to add that Firefox did not work on Debian 6.0.5 either. |
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| 10:52.21 | berarma | luftikuss: did you try to fix a broken system by upgrading? |
| 10:52.52 | ChrisH | MySystem: To me it looks like failing HW not SW |
| 10:53.15 | luftikuss | berarma: Yes. wheezy/sid. That's what /etc/debian_version tells me. |
| 10:53.29 | Sevet | luftikuss: how do/did you have firefox installed? |
| 10:53.34 | berarma | luftikuss: what do you have in your sources.list? |
| 10:53.40 | Sevet | luftikuss: and have you tried using iceweasel? |
| 10:53.56 | luftikuss | berarma: I did not try to fix a broken system by upgrading. The old system did not report any error. |
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| 10:54.31 | luftikuss | Sevet: I installed it on the old operating system using Synaptic. |
| 10:55.03 | MySystem | chrisH ok i will shutdown it sounds like i made something wrong at the hardware but first i found options in the shutdown programm like -F to force fsck at boot and -P to make power off after shutdown complete but sudo shutdown -F -P now won't work |
| 10:55.43 | Sevet | luftikuss: did you have additional repositories setup? firefox is not in debian's repositories |
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| 10:57.58 | Sevet | hmm, iceweasel does have a /usr/bin/firefox symlink to /usr/bin/iceweasel though - do you have iceweasel installed? (dpkg -l iceweasel) |
| 10:57.59 | ChrisH | MySystem: try sudo -i then shutdown -F -P now |
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| 10:58.49 | nocdnousb | i am trying to install squeeze onto my laptop which does NOT have a working usb port nor a cdrom drive. I followed the instructions http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/how-to-boot-iso-with-grub2-easy-way.html, i rebooted selected unetbooting, booted the install program but i can not past beyond the stage "cdrom not detected". can anyone help me? |
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| 11:00.14 | luftikuss | berarma: Two lines: 'deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy main' and 'deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy main' |
| 11:00.16 | MySystem | chrisH oh it says what iam doing wrong: shutdown: -H and -P flags can only be used along with -h flag |
| 11:00.16 | MySystem | try this now |
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| 11:01.20 | MySystem | thx chrisH hope you will be here after my hw check that iam doing now |
| 11:01.56 | luftikuss | Sevet: '~$ iceweasel; bash: iceweasel: Command not found.' |
| 11:02.31 | MySystem | i will have a look specialy at hd and powersupply any other hw i should have a special look |
| 11:02.35 | Sevet | not the command i asked you to run (doesn't help if your path is wrong), but ok |
| 11:02.44 | MySystem | ? |
| 11:02.55 | berarma | luftikuss: I think installing the gnome package you should have that working, I don't know the exact package you might be missing |
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| 11:04.34 | luftikuss | berarma: Right. You recommend this although I indicated that I would like to use xfce4 as my preferred desktop environment? |
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| 11:06.07 | enlightified | There was a command that helped you choose to install all packages that were used for a desktop or for a server. I have forgotten it... please. |
| 11:06.48 | ChrisH | enlightified: tasksel ? |
| 11:06.59 | Sevet | luftikuss: iceweasel is the name of the package firefox/iceweasel is in... it can provide gnome-www-browser, but isn't the only option to do so. i don't think it's installed by default. afaik you can install iceweasel without having to install gnome, so it'd work in xfce |
| 11:07.06 | enlightified | yes tasksel. |
| 11:07.08 | enlightified | thank you. |
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| 11:07.49 | luftikuss | Sevet: Excellent! Thank you very much for your advice. |
| 11:07.55 | jillsmitt | and how to show connected users to my computer in realtime? |
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| 11:09.01 | luftikuss | jillsmitt: Did ou try the command 'w'? |
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| 11:09.30 | berarma | luftikuss: then install task-xfce-desktop |
| 11:09.33 | Bogdar | Hello! |
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| 11:09.55 | Bogdar | Are there any kind of debian installer for stable with modern kernel ? |
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| 11:10.32 | berarma | !tell Bogdar -about kmuto |
| 11:10.52 | jillsmitt | luftikuss, cool and how to see connections? |
| 11:11.21 | nocdnousb | can anyone help me? |
| 11:11.23 | Bogdar | berarma, thanx |
| 11:11.25 | Sevet | jillsmitt: what kind of connections? tcp? that'd be netstat |
| 11:11.35 | jillsmitt | ok |
| 11:11.52 | luftikuss | jillsmitt: In real time? ntop |
| 11:14.32 | nocdnousb | i am trying to install squeeze onto my laptop which does NOT have a working usb port nor a cdrom drive. I followed the instructions http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/how-to-boot-iso-with-grub2-easy-way.html, i rebooted selected unetbooting, booted the install program but i can not past beyond the stage "cdrom not detected". can anyone help me? |
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| 11:15.52 | luftikuss | berarma: This reports: "E: You don't have not enough space in /var/cache/apt/archives/." Would '#apt-get clean' help? |
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| 11:16.42 | berarma | luftikuss: yes, you should do it after the upgrade |
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| 11:18.23 | atomiku | Quick Q: Would it be acceptable for me to make a precompiled binary in debian, to be run on Red Hat? |
| 11:19.09 | atomiku | Providing the binary doesn't have any external dependencies on run-time that may be looking in a directory that differs between Red hat / debian?? |
| 11:20.10 | cnythnk | slaps syslq around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:20.13 | Sevet | luftikuss: yep, until then it'll keep a copy of all the .deb packages you downloaded in there, which after a dist-upgrade'll be a lot |
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| 11:21.53 | luftikuss | Sevet: I see. I have done '~$ sudo apt-get clean'. Now my computer is downloading a lot of new files. |
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| 11:23.12 | luftikuss | Sevet: Even lireoffice-core. I hope that this will not overflow my hard disk. |
| 11:25.00 | Stummi | Hi, I cannot start the help menu from serval gnome applications (eog, epiphany, evince, ghex, ...). When I want to display the help with yelp from console (yelp /usr/share/gnome/help/eog/C/index.page) it works |
| 11:25.16 | Stummi | i am not sure if i shall send the bugreport against yelp or the gnome applications |
| 11:25.19 | Stummi | any hints? |
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| 11:26.09 | Stummi | trying to show it from within the application I get this error-message: "There was an error displaying help: Operation not supported" |
| 11:26.10 | oggei | Stummi: i'd try to launch eg. evince from a console, observing his output when i access help |
| 11:26.19 | Stummi | oggei, already tried |
| 11:26.23 | Stummi | there isn't any output |
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| 11:28.21 | Stummi | oggei, also i alread tried to run the application with "strace -e trace=file" to determine if it belongs to any missing file (i don't have a full gnome-environment, just a few picked gnome applications), but this doesn't give any usable informations too. |
| 11:29.11 | MySystem | chrisH ok nothing to see with my eyes but i ordered a force fsck on boot and at beginning(so i thought because there is no monitor near that can resolutions above 800x600 so i see no boot print) there was this terrible click" from my hd think this is the hw error |
| 11:29.11 | MySystem | where is the startup fsck log saved to ? |
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| 11:30.03 | berarma | Stummi: how do you try to get the help window? |
| 11:30.21 | oggei | Stummi: try to strace process related stuff |
| 11:30.47 | oggei | maybe you're missing some wrapper around yelp |
| 11:31.17 | Stummi | berarma, clicking on "Help -> Contents" within the applications |
| 11:31.52 | ChrisH | MySystem: nowhere, the fsck must be done while / is active read-only. Thats what you use logging terminalserver in a Datacenter for :) |
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| 11:32.27 | berarma | Stummi: I don't know how it works but it might be dbus related |
| 11:33.14 | Stummi | berarma, dbus is installed |
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| 11:34.05 | MySystem | chrisH oh yeah thats kind of logical |
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| 11:35.16 | ChrisH | MySystem: and... such a logging consol or Terminalserver would have catched the last words from your OS or HW before powering off the last times. Modern servers do have such features builtin named LOM, iLOM or however the vendor called it. |
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| 11:37.15 | MySystem | that sounds nice but modern is something i dont have its a amd duron 1,8ghz on a microstar mb with nvidia chipsets |
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| 11:37.45 | Stummi | however, my initial question against which package(s) i shall write the bugreport is still not answered |
| 11:37.50 | MySystem | and its not a special server machine |
| 11:38.30 | MySystem | chrisH can i fsck the hd via usb so i can remove it and put it on my desktop? |
| 11:38.30 | mkozjak | hello, i have a script in /etc/crontab which nicely exits when ran alone (not from cron) but in cron, i get: Sep 7 13:28:01 rpm2 /USR/SBIN/CRON[19666]: (mkozjak) CMD (/home/mkozjak/scripts/iptv/lowmemstb.pl) |
| 11:38.34 | mkozjak | Sep 7 13:28:02 rpm2 /USR/SBIN/CRON[19665]: (CRON) error (grandchild #19666 failed with exit status 2) |
| 11:38.42 | mkozjak | what is the reason for that behaviour? |
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| 11:39.06 | oggei | mmmmh ... the $PATH env var |
| 11:39.08 | Bombo | how do i get the squeeze pgp key? in apt-key list i see only keys for lenny |
| 11:40.03 | Bombo | i get 'WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!' with apt-get |
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| 11:45.42 | oggei | Stummi: cause is still not clear what is causing what. |
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| 11:46.51 | Stummi | oggei, yeah.. but i can't tell (i am not very in the gnome stuff) neither than somebody here |
| 11:47.14 | atomiku | If I compile a binary on Debian AMD64, will it run on Red Hat Intel 64bit? |
| 11:47.20 | oggei | have you tried what i've suggested ? |
| 11:47.34 | Sevet | Bombo: install debian-archive-keyring, or wget https://ftp-master.debian.org/keys/archive-key-6.0.asc && apt-key add archive-key-6.0.asc |
| 11:47.48 | oggei | atomiku: compile it staticly and it probably will |
| 11:47.53 | atomiku | hmm |
| 11:47.56 | atomiku | Whats statically? |
| 11:47.59 | berarma | Stummi: you can try asking in #debian-gnome |
| 11:48.06 | atomiku | I'm worried that the binary might have things that it loads on runtime |
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| 11:48.15 | atomiku | so the directories would need to be the same |
| 11:48.16 | berarma | !tell Stummi -about gnome |
| 11:48.25 | atomiku | is that correct? |
| 11:48.39 | Stummi | berarma, ah, thanks |
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| 11:50.08 | Sevet | atomiku: directories shouldn't be an issue (unless you have app-specific ones eg config/data files), libraries might be if they're different versions which you can avoid by linking them statically (so your versions are included in the binary rather than loading them from a .so) |
| 11:51.11 | atomiku | Ahh I see |
| 11:51.14 | atomiku | Okay, well i'm gonna give it a go! |
| 11:51.25 | atomiku | The problem is that I need to compile a binary to be run on our shared hosting server |
| 11:51.38 | Stummi | just decided to delegate this assigning-thing ;) http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=686942 |
| 11:51.48 | atomiku | They allow you to run binaries, via PHP, via passthru(), but… C++ failed the sanity checks so I couldn't compile |
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| 12:06.13 | MySystem | how do i get the device of an usb harddisk to enter this with fsck? |
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| 12:07.03 | ChrisH | MySystem: dmesg should tell you after you connected it |
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| 12:08.12 | MySystem | thx |
| 12:08.14 | engla | or looking in /dev/disk/* |
| 12:08.15 | jhutchins_wk | MySystem: fdisk -l should also list it. |
| 12:08.38 | MySystem | wao that are many ways |
| 12:08.48 | jhutchins_wk | MySystem: Frequently true in linux. |
| 12:08.51 | ChrisH | MySystem: Thats the UNIX way |
| 12:10.15 | ChrisH | lshw -short might work, too. |
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| 12:12.33 | MySystem | how do i check a swap partition? it says |
| 12:12.33 | MySystem | fsck: fsck.swap: not found |
| 12:12.33 | MySystem | fsck: error 2 while executing fsck.swap for /dev/sde5 |
| 12:13.10 | ChrisH | MySystem: You do not need to fsck swap. |
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| 12:14.05 | MySystem | ok then it goes strange both partition seams "sauber"(german) think clear is the english word |
| 12:14.24 | Sevet | swap is not a filesystem, therefore not fsck-able |
| 12:14.41 | ChrisH | MySystem: clean is the correct word |
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| 12:15.00 | MySystem | the only think fsck found was bad time in superblock because there is no bios batterie and the time change on power fail |
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| 12:15.46 | MySystem | can i force a complete check (this check with fsck /dev/sde1 only takes a few seconds) |
| 12:16.01 | ChrisH | MySystem: fsck -f |
| 12:16.38 | MySystem | ok nice |
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| 12:17.59 | MySystem | think this can take a while because of usb and old ata100 device i hope this is the system crash cause if not i will be back when i got the fsck results of both partitions |
| 12:18.47 | MySystem | very lots of thanks at this time i learned a lot and hope i got the error too you all are very friendly |
| 12:20.15 | ChrisH | MySystem: you might want to use smartmontools later to as the disk about the health status. IIRC it does not work over USB or Firewire adapter |
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| 12:27.21 | MySystem | ok will do so after the fsck -f iam lucky to have an ide port on my desktop so thats possible |
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| 12:28.11 | ChrisH | MySystem: other Q, is that a test system? Do you have backup in place? |
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| 12:30.12 | MySystem | system backup no only from the java app(craftbukkit) and these backups are on a second partition on the same hd (i know not realy good backup way but not so much hds free atm) |
| 12:31.07 | ChrisH | MySystem: I hope no one earns money with that box |
| 12:32.33 | koskoz | hi, I've got a simple php file set to 777 doing a mkdir. The error tells me I havn't enough rights to create the directory. The file is set to 777, the destination dir is set to 777, the user is apache belonging to the group "dev", every file and folder belongs to dev:dev. What am I missing? |
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| 12:33.43 | MySystem | no no its just to learn linux server setup and managment the only app the java app is more like fun and testing ,what does test system mean ? the same files on a other hd in the same system? server hd in other system? or a |
| 12:33.57 | sephii | I'd like to share my connection with somebody else, but I want to avoid some traffic (eg. sharing copyrighted stuff). Where I live, it's legal to download copyrighted stuff but illegal to share. Is there a way to do that? I could set up iptables to allow traffic only on port 80 but I guess that it's quite easy for a P2P client to use that port |
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| 12:34.30 | Linox32 | on my server I create a virtual domain how to access without domain name ? |
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| 12:34.38 | raptor67682 | sephii: over proxy? |
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| 12:35.25 | sephii | raptor67682: yeah I thought installing squid or something like that, but will it be enough? |
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| 12:36.34 | sephii | raptor67682: also I'd like to allow traffic for imap, and smtp so that he could also check his mail without a webmail... |
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| 12:46.57 | FilipeMaia | Hi what would you recommend to test a batch of new hard drives? |
| 12:47.12 | koskoz | anyone? |
| 12:47.15 | koskoz | I've got a simple php file set to 777 doing a mkdir. The error tells me I havn't enough rights to create the directory. The file is set to 777, the destination dir is set to 777, the user is apache belonging to the group "dev", every file and folder belongs to dev:dev. What am I missing? |
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| 12:54.42 | sephii | koskoz: you're trying to create a dir inside the dir that's in 777 right? |
| 12:54.42 | ChrisH | koskoz: "What am I missing?" reasonable permissions! We might get an idea if you show us an ls -la from the directories and id -a from the user trying to do anything |
| 12:54.56 | gnarface | raptor67682: let me know if you find out that green console font thing. that would be killer |
| 12:56.10 | Stummi | koskoz, may you want to lean how permissions work before driving *any* unix |
| 12:56.17 | Stummi | *learn |
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| 12:56.51 | Stummi | the chmod of your php file doesn't have anything to do what you php file is allowed to do |
| 12:56.59 | Stummi | however, chmod 777 is a very bad idea in general |
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| 12:57.30 | luftikuss | During execution of '~$ sudo apt-get install task-xfce-desktop' my partition with the rootfs 2,0 GB overflew and stopped. '~$ df -h' reports used=100%. But I can perform commands like '~$ ls -al /'. What files and directories should I now delete first to free some disk space? |
| 12:57.37 | koskoz | sephii: yes |
| 12:57.59 | koskoz | Stummi: 777 is for test only... |
| 12:58.06 | jelly | ,v task-xfce-desktop' |
| 12:58.07 | Stummi | luftikuss, /var/cache/apt/archives/*.dev |
| 12:58.08 | judd | No package named 'task-xfce-desktop'' was found in i386. |
| 12:58.10 | jelly | ,v task-xfce-desktop |
| 12:58.11 | judd | Package: task-xfce-desktop on i386 -- wheezy: 3.12; sid: 3.13 |
| 12:58.42 | Stummi | koskoz, even in "testing only" setting chmod 777 just means you don't know what you are doing |
| 12:58.50 | jelly | luftikuss: apt-get clean will wipe the .deb files apt downloaded. This is safe but somewhat counterproductive |
| 12:59.15 | koskoz | Stummi: ez publish tells to set some cache directory to 777... And that's not the point anyway |
| 12:59.28 | luftikuss | jelly: And what is more productive? The advice of Stummi? |
| 12:59.51 | Stummi | i think /var/log/* can also deleted safe |
| 12:59.56 | Linox32 | how to get access to another directory under the webroot ? |
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| 13:00.03 | jelly | luftikuss: it's the same thing basically |
| 13:00.04 | koskoz | Stummi: stop talking non sense |
| 13:00.14 | koskoz | Stummi: you'r not adding anything constructive |
| 13:00.28 | Stummi | kay |
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| 13:00.46 | gnarface | adds something constructive to his coke |
| 13:01.02 | ansgar | koskoz: Then it's probably bad documentation. |
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| 13:01.43 | koskoz | ansgar: I know and I don't care, the permissions will be set correctly but at first I need to know why my apache user can't create a directory even if the php file is set to 777 and the destination folder too |
| 13:01.48 | koskoz | that's just a simple test case |
| 13:02.02 | koskoz | if narrow minded people can't understand that then don't answer |
| 13:02.49 | Stummi | koskoz, you set your php file to 777 assuming that gives it any more rights. So i am not sure who is the narrow minded guy |
| 13:03.08 | Stummi | koskoz, whats the error message, btw? |
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| 13:03.57 | luftikuss | jelly: I did '~$ sudo apt-get clean'. Now my rootfs filesystem partition is used 80% only and 384 MB are available. -- What should I do now? |
| 13:04.12 | Stummi | koskoz, you also could try if you can do a mkdir from terminal in this circumstances. if yes, it likely belongs to any restriction on php-side |
| 13:04.35 | jelly | luftikuss: dpkg --configure -a |
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| 13:04.58 | grobda24 | Hi. I'm using Mondo Rescue which is asking me if I want to backup Extended Attributes (SELinux). |
| 13:05.27 | grobda24 | I have a slightly modified stock kernel which seems to have SELinux support, but I don't think it is enabled. |
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| 13:05.52 | jelly | luftikuss: you will likely need a bit more than 2GB for / if /usr and /var are on it. |
| 13:05.52 | koskoz | Stummi: well, funny thing, when I login with the apache user I can create the directory... |
| 13:05.59 | grobda24 | 1. Is SELinux enabled by default ? 2. Can I ignore backup of Extended Attributes ? |
| 13:06.31 | jelly | koskoz: can you verify youf php processes are actually run by the apache user |
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| 13:06.51 | thewanderer1 | grobda24: if SELinux was enabled, you'd know. stuff would break on its own :P |
| 13:06.54 | ChrisH | koskoz: repeated comment from a narrow minded: We might get an idea if you show us an ls -la from the directories and id -a from the user trying to do anything |
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| 13:07.18 | koskoz | ChrisH: the ls-la will be big |
| 13:07.24 | Stummi | koskoz, and you are sure your php-file also runs with the apache uid? |
| 13:07.43 | jelly | ... that's what I said! |
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| 13:07.54 | Stummi | jelly, oh, i see. sorry :) |
| 13:07.56 | koskoz | ChrisH: uid=48(apache) gid=48(apache) groupes=48(apache),500(dev) contexte=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 |
| 13:08.14 | jelly | koskoz: that does not look like Debian at all |
| 13:08.20 | ChrisH | koskoz: then remove some parts but keep the relevant part. |
| 13:08.21 | grobda24 | thewanderer1: ok, so I need to confirm this. So your're saying the behaviour of my system would be fundamentally different to normal Linux ? |
| 13:08.29 | ansgar | koskoz: That's not Debian? |
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| 13:08.52 | jelly | koskoz: which distro and release are you using, and are you using the debian provided apache? |
| 13:09.02 | gnarface | doubts he even has shell access |
| 13:09.02 | grobda24 | I think I just need to check to see if a kernel module is loaded or not ... "selinux" ? |
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| 13:09.15 | koskoz | here is the list of my httpd processes http://pastebin.com/JKuVWgQS |
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| 13:09.33 | gnarface | no |
| 13:09.34 | thewanderer1 | grobda24: yes, SELinux is so intrusive that you would definitely notice if you were using it (you'd need to configure all major apps/daemons to work with it), and it's not enabled by default |
| 13:09.35 | gnarface | fuck no |
| 13:09.38 | gnarface | just fuck no |
| 13:09.43 | gnarface | koskoz: NOT debian. gtfo |
| 13:09.51 | koskoz | gnarface: whut? |
| 13:09.52 | jelly | koskoz: please pastebin the output of "dpkg -l libc6 dpkg apache2\*" and "lsb_release -a" |
| 13:09.54 | luftikuss | jelly: I did '~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a'. It reports: "Errors occurred when working on: glib-networking-services, libtag1c2a:i386, libreofice-core, libreoffice-style-tango and libreoffice-style-galaxy." How to deal with that? |
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| 13:10.13 | jelly | luftikuss: can you pastebin the whole output, please? |
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| 13:10.20 | grobda24 | thewanderer1: ok, thanks for that :) |
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| 13:10.26 | ansgar | gnarface: ... Please watch your language. |
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| 13:10.51 | gnarface | ansgar: no. |
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| 13:11.08 | DeathKnight | i am not able to create an ad-hoc in debian squeeze. is there any thing required for creating an ad-hoc? |
| 13:11.24 | luftikuss | jelly: Is there a pastebinit service in Debian? |
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| 13:11.48 | Sevet | koskoz: that is not a debian system. only debian is supported in here, as your distro might be (and in your case is) completely different from debian |
| 13:11.49 | nevyn | luftikuss: yep |
| 13:11.56 | ansgar | gnarface: Then maybe go elsewhere for your "gtfo"? |
| 13:12.03 | gnarface | ansgar: bite me |
| 13:12.14 | gnarface | ansgar: this is a debian support channel and koskoz is abusing it |
| 13:12.28 | nevyn | gnarface: he's not the first and won't be the last. |
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| 13:12.56 | gnarface | nevyn: the same can be said of people i have cursed at |
| 13:12.57 | thewanderer1 | DeathKnight: look at http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers , IBSS column. locate your driver, then verify it says "yes" under IBSS. |
| 13:13.10 | jelly | luftikuss: you can't install anything right now, so copy/paste the stuff manually if possible |
| 13:13.16 | jelly | !pastebinit |
| 13:13.16 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: squeeze users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
| 13:13.28 | Sevet | gnarface: regardless of whether that's the case, you're abusing the channel in a completely different manner |
| 13:13.46 | ansgar | gnarface: Other people being wrong does not mean you should abuse #debian yourself with bad language. |
| 13:13.55 | DeathKnight | thewanderer1, ok, i will check it. but the same card works in ubuntu. :) |
| 13:13.59 | nevyn | DeathKnight: ad-hoc network? |
| 13:14.04 | gnarface | ansgar, Sevet: now so are you both by addressing me about it. happy? |
| 13:14.10 | nevyn | !language |
| 13:14.10 | dpkg | [language] a wonderful fucking thing that should be used properly. Every time you hurt grammar, a <knoppix> user joins. To the scientists, language is god. See <$lang>, <language per user>. |
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| 13:14.49 | thewanderer1 | DeathKnight: could be a case of newer drivers. have you tried an updated kernel? (see the kernels from backports) |
| 13:15.07 | gnarface | koskoz: we can't help you, actually. you need to identify your linux distro and any relevant hosting-company-specific php security settings they may have put in place |
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| 13:15.40 | DeathKnight | thewanderer1, yeah, it says "yes" under IBSS. and no, i havent tried newer kernels. |
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| 13:16.17 | thewanderer1 | DeathKnight: and what happens when you try creating an ad-hoc network? |
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| 13:16.43 | Sevet | koskoz: if you are indeed running debian, that is a custom installation of apache which doesn't match the debian package |
| 13:17.06 | DeathKnight | thewanderer1, it just shows me "wireless network disconnected" message. |
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| 13:17.40 | DeathKnight | "Disconnected: The network connection has been disconnected." exact message. |
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| 13:18.47 | Sevet | koskoz: try running 'lsb_release -a' to identify your distro |
| 13:19.09 | jelly | Sevet: that's what I said! |
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| 13:19.24 | DeathKnight | thewanderer1, do we need dhcp server for ad-hoc? if that's the case then I don't have dhcp server. |
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| 13:19.42 | Sevet | jelly: :) i missed that |
| 13:19.51 | thewanderer1 | DeathKnight: yes, you need a DHCP server, and I believe network-manager would come with one (it starts dnsmasq for me) |
| 13:19.58 | thewanderer1 | DeathKnight: if it doesn't - install dnsmasq |
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| 13:20.33 | DeathKnight | thewanderer1, ok. I remember removing dnsmasq for some purpose. will try with it installed. :) |
| 13:21.20 | DeathKnight | thewanderer1, also, does it need to be configured? dnsmasq.conf |
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| 13:21.45 | thewanderer1 | DeathKnight: no, network-manager will pass all needed config options via command line to dnsmasq at runtime |
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| 13:22.38 | DeathKnight | thewanderer1, will it pass the config option even if I am makng an ad-hoc from nm-applet? |
| 13:23.10 | thewanderer1 | DeathKnight: yeah |
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| 13:24.43 | DeathKnight | thewanderer1, thanks a lot! seems like it worked..but stuck for some reasons, rebooting once. |
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| 13:28.11 | Sevet | luftikuss: either pipe the output to file ( > stdout.txt 2> stderr.txt ), use tee to send to both file and terminal ( | tee stdout.log ) or copy and paste into a text editor (eg gvim) |
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| 13:52.18 | oggei | rgr: maybe a pre-up in interfaces(5) |
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| 13:52.34 | rgr | ydah but is interfaces used if I use networkmanager? |
| 13:53.33 | rgr | there is also etc/network/if-pre-up.d |
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| 13:54.25 | blubberdiblub | that latter one if called by ifup. don't know if NetworkManager calls that, too (if NetworkManager uses ifup, this would be pretty likely) |
| 13:54.26 | oggei | if-pre-up.d is where packages drop specialized, droppable things in interfaces(5) |
| 13:54.38 | oggei | NM uses "auto" interfaces iirc |
| 13:55.02 | oggei | the interaction between the two is documented somewhere |
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| 13:56.23 | oggei | damned networkmanager, another victim |
| 13:56.41 | chalcedony | i do honestly need some help. i'm up way past when i need to be. in swapping monitors ive opened a window that is taking up my entire screen that doesn't have a close or minimize - how can i get rid of it? |
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| 13:59.31 | Bombo | is there a known problem with libreoffice and squeeze? i just get the green libreoffice loading box, and nothing more |
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| 14:00.31 | somiaj | Bombo: usually known problems are located in the BTS (bugs.debian.org) |
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| 14:04.43 | boudiccas | Bombo: where did you get your libreoffice from? |
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| 14:07.26 | Bombo | boudiccas: http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/3.6.1/deb/x86/LibO_3.6.1_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz |
| 14:07.41 | boudiccas | chalcedony: start 'top' and find its pid and then kill it. or, in a terminal 'pkill foo' where foo si the name of the programme |
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| 14:08.34 | chalcedony | boudiccas, thank you very much |
| 14:08.51 | boudiccas | Bombo: have you tried downgrading to 3.6.0? it mya be a problem with the debian version of 3.6.1 |
| 14:08.52 | Stummi | Bombo, why not just installing it from the repository? |
| 14:09.18 | boudiccas | chalcedony: you're welcome, sleep well |
| 14:09.22 | chalcedony | i have a larger problem in that my main monitor died, and the controls were on that monitor, is there a way to get them back on one monitor? |
| 14:09.35 | Sevet | ,v libreoffice |
| 14:09.36 | judd | Package: libreoffice on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 1:3.4.6-2~bpo60+2; squeeze-backports: 1:3.5.4-7~bpo60+1; sid: 1:3.5.4+dfsg-1; wheezy: 1:3.5.4+dfsg-1; experimental: 1:3.6.1-1 |
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| 14:10.33 | Bombo | boudiccas: ok i'll try that |
| 14:10.46 | Bombo | Stummi: i didn't know that it was there |
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| 14:17.18 | Bombo | ok how do i install everything libreoffice? apt-get install libreoffice is complaining |
| 14:17.43 | Bombo | about dependancies |
| 14:18.08 | boudiccas | Bombo: what is its error message, paste it please in dpaste |
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| 14:19.41 | gnat_x | Bombo: i think the meta package you want is libreoffice-bundled, but i have no idea what all is in there. |
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| 14:21.06 | Bombo | http://paste.debian.net/188429/ |
| 14:21.14 | Sevet | libreoffice is a metapackage that installs -writer -calc etc |
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| 14:21.43 | SergeiPoulp | I just installed the latest testing x64 Debian (3.2.0-3 kernel). It comes with the Nouveau driver, but after a couple of hours searching, I can't access any configuration interface nor file. Any help please ? |
| 14:21.49 | babilen | Bombo: You need to pass the "-t squeeze-backports" option to apt-get/aptitude if you want to install packages from there. |
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| 14:22.05 | Sevet | bombo: try apt-get update first, also apt-get -t squeeze-backports install libreoffice |
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| 14:23.00 | Bombo | babilen Sevet: did that, same message |
| 14:23.09 | Sevet | (backports has a special setting so that you only install the newer versions available there if you opt into them with -t, that might be making it ignore them) |
| 14:23.10 | Sevet | hmm o |
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| 14:23.12 | Sevet | hmm ok |
| 14:23.30 | Bombo | deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main |
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| 14:23.46 | Bombo | i have this line in my sources.ini |
| 14:23.49 | Bombo | right? |
| 14:24.15 | Sevet | yep, it's worked too since it knows it wants those dependancies |
| 14:25.20 | babilen | Bombo: Yes, it is. Please run "apt-get update" and show me the output of "apt-cache policy libreoffice libreoffice-core" along with that of "apt-get -t squeeze-backports install libreoffice" please. |
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| 14:28.14 | Bombo | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/188431/ |
| 14:28.45 | Bombo | and it doesn't look like it would install 3.6.0 but 3.5.4 |
| 14:29.26 | Bombo | ... if it would work |
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| 14:30.59 | babilen | Bombo: That is correct (3.6 is only in experimental) -- I am a bit surprised though. Could you show me the output of "apt-cache policy" and that of "apt-get -t squeeze-backports install libreoffice-writer" and "aptitude -t squeeze-backports install libreoffice" please? |
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| 14:31.27 | Bombo | this is with -bundled: http://paste.debian.net/188432/ |
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| 14:32.48 | babilen | Bombo: Huh?! Where is libreoffice-bundled from? Could you paste "apt-cache policy libreoffice-bundled" as well? Did you install anything libreoffice related by hand? |
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| 14:33.04 | prietus | hi |
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| 14:33.26 | Bombo | apt-cache policy: http://paste.debian.net/188433/ |
| 14:33.55 | Bombo | 16:19 <gnat_x> Bombo: i think the meta package you want is libreoffice-bundled, but i have no idea what all is in there. |
| 14:34.01 | Bombo | there ;) |
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| 14:34.20 | babilen | ,v libreoffice-bundled |
| 14:34.23 | judd | No package named 'libreoffice-bundled' was found in i386. |
| 14:35.07 | Stummi | Bombo, when you have problems with your packages or package manager, and you using 3rd-party repositories, you should tell this from beginning |
| 14:35.16 | Bombo | and yes i installed 16:19 <gnat_x> Bombo: i think the meta package you want is libreoffice-bundled, but i have no idea what all is in there. |
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| 14:35.41 | babilen | Bombo: Where did you install that from? Could you paste "apt-cache policy libreoffice-bundled" as well? |
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| 14:35.59 | babilen | reads backlog in the meanwhile |
| 14:36.14 | Bombo | and yes i installed 16:07 <Bombo> boudiccas: http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/3.6.1/deb/x86/LibO_3.6.1_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz |
| 14:36.30 | Bombo | from there |
| 14:36.33 | a_person | why doesn't this line work to transform the word `blub' into a qr code on the fly? qrencode blub -o - | feh -f - |
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| 14:37.15 | SergeiPoulp | No idea about ways to configure the 'Nouveau' driver ? |
| 14:37.30 | Bombo | i think i got every 3.6.1 paket removed |
| 14:37.56 | babilen | Bombo: Ok, in that case I am no longer surprised that you cannot use Debian's packages anymore. You can either stick with the (unsupported by Debian) packages from documentfoundation or remove/purge those and install those from squeeze-backports. I would recommend to do the latter as those third-party packages might be of substandard quality. |
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| 14:38.04 | \n | hi, will systemd be in wheezy? |
| 14:38.22 | babilen | Bombo: Please show me the output. That of "aptitude search ~i~nlibreoffice" might also be of interest. |
| 14:38.26 | babilen | \n: It already is |
| 14:38.30 | babilen | ,v systemd |
| 14:38.31 | judd | Package: systemd on i386 -- sid: 44-4; wheezy: 44-4 |
| 14:38.32 | \n | oh, nice |
| 14:39.24 | Bombo | babilen: 16:37 <Bombo> i think i got every 3.6.1 paket removed |
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| 14:40.04 | Bombo | babilen: aptitude search ~i~nlibreoffice did not output anything |
| 14:40.06 | babilen | Bombo: I've seen that comment. May I still the the output of all those commands I mentioned? |
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| 14:40.11 | babilen | ok |
| 14:40.33 | babilen | Bombo: Does "aptitude -t squeeze-backports install libreoffice" suggest something reasonable? |
| 14:41.15 | babilen | checks the content of that third-party .deb bundle. Your problems are almost certainly related to installing that. |
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| 14:42.30 | babilen | Bombo: What about "aptitude search ~i~nlibobasis" or aptitude search '?narrow(?not(?archive("^[^n][^o].*$")),?version(CURRENT))' ? |
| 14:42.37 | jhutchins_wk | SergeiPoulp: Did you checj the README.Debian file? |
| 14:42.54 | Bombo | babilen: looks promising, new pakets, then remove openoffice, Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] i think i try this now |
| 14:43.09 | Bombo | chat lag ;) |
| 14:43.13 | babilen | Bombo: May I see the output of the two commands before please? |
| 14:43.16 | Bombo | ok |
| 14:43.35 | Bombo | aptitude search ~i~nlibobasis: nothing |
| 14:44.07 | babilen | Ah - You have openoffice installed. :) |
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| 14:44.22 | Bombo | aptitude search '?narrow(?not(?archive("^[^n][^o].*$")),?version(CURRENT))': something ;) |
| 14:44.38 | babilen | Bombo: May I see the something along with the aptitude output please? |
| 14:44.40 | Bombo | shows some pakets, but nothing about libreofficew# |
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| 14:48.16 | Bombo | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/188436/ |
| 14:48.17 | babilen | Bombo: Thanks for the paste. |
| 14:49.49 | Bombo | babilen: what does that show anyway? looks like the packages i compiled myself |
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| 14:50.19 | babilen | Bombo: You have a wonderful collection of unsupported packages there btw. The packages created with checkinstall are the most problematic IMHO. I would strongly recommend to consider removing/cleaning that situation and running a more "standard" system. (You can, for example, get a newer and supported kernel from backports for which you get security support) |
| 14:50.46 | babilen | Bombo: Yeah, the aptitude output is rather relevant for your problem, but you didn't paste it unfortunately. |
| 14:50.47 | karlpinc | !tell Bombo about overview |
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| 14:52.32 | Bombo | ok i had the 'standard' system but it was missing some features or tools, what else can i do instead of using checkinstall? just don't use them? |
| 14:53.05 | Bombo | babilen: that was the aptitude output |
| 14:54.11 | babilen | Bombo: Ah, I guess that I made ambigious references and you haven't pasted everyhting I asked for. I was referring to the output of "aptitude -t squeeze-backports install libreoffice" - I guess that its solution is reasonable though. |
| 14:54.37 | Bombo | babilen: and, what do any of those pakets have to do with office? |
| 14:56.31 | a_person | why doesn't this line work to transform the word `blub' into a qr code on the fly? qrencode blub -o - | feh -f - |
| 14:56.53 | babilen | Bombo: AFAICT not much (i.e. nothing), but it is never bad to have too much information when solving a problem. I would still recommend to reduce the number of third-party/self-maintained packages on your system. |
| 14:59.11 | Bombo | babilen: oh this output, ok: http://paste.debian.net/188442/ yes sounds ok |
| 14:59.29 | Bombo | i had this started ;) |
| 14:59.59 | babilen | Bombo: I would recommend to remove openoffice related packages first |
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| 15:00.38 | Bombo | babilen: don't you trust in aptitude doing that? |
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| 15:01.13 | babilen | Bombo: It doesn't remove everyhting (e.g. openoffice.org-hyphenation-de) which leads to (now) broken dependencies. |
| 15:03.29 | babilen | Bombo: You can follow up with "aptitude search ~i~nopenoffice" and "aptitude search ~b" (or s/search/purge) as you seem to have already taken matters into your own hands |
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| 15:08.28 | Bombo | $ aptitude remove $(aptitude search ~i~nopenoffice|while read foo pak desc;do echo -n "$pak ";done) |
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| 15:10.16 | Bombo | hmmm |
| 15:10.20 | Bombo | ooo gone |
| 15:10.34 | Bombo | actually '$ apt-get -t squeeze-backports install libreoffice' is working now |
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| 15:23.24 | luftikuss | jelly: "~$ cat /media/GEWOSUED/tmp/statusDL.txt | pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.txt; Unknown website, please post a bugreport to request this pastebin to be added (http://paste.debian.txt)" |
| 15:23.31 | arakno | guys, how do i solve this problem ? http://pastebin.com/bFCLPZ0m |
| 15:24.14 | himmelstrutz | hi. I know there's something stupid missing, but I can't remember what. I would like to use just /etc/network/interfaces instead of wicd (which works well), but something is wrong the configuration: http://pastebin.com/TnizRVxn |
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| 15:24.32 | babilen | luftikuss: Try debian.net not debian.txt |
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| 15:28.05 | babilen | would look at those paste if it weren't for the fact that they have been pasted to the horrible pastebin.com (try http://paste.debian.net or anything else) |
| 15:28.21 | karlpinc | tw: I didn't look. But is the interface up when the route is set? Perhaps you need a hook. (just a quick thought) |
| 15:28.37 | babilen | looks anyway -- But please remember to use a less horrible pastebin in the future. ta. |
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| 15:31.41 | tw | karlpinc: Yes, the interface is up. I get a process not found still. |
| 15:31.56 | Bombo | funny |
| 15:32.13 | Bombo | this does nothing: '/usr/lib/libreoffice/program$ ./soffice --writer' |
| 15:32.40 | Bombo | i hate computers. |
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| 15:32.49 | Bombo | ;) |
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| 15:33.33 | Bombo | works just as root |
| 15:33.42 | Bombo | strange. |
| 15:35.09 | blubberdiblub | Bombo, try what it says on the libreoffice wiki: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.6#Most_annoying_bugs |
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| 15:37.13 | jhutchins_wk | Bombo: So we know that root has different permissions and a different path. Which of those is the problem? |
| 15:38.01 | Bombo | blubberdiblub: its 3.5.4 now from backports |
| 15:38.13 | Bombo | jhutchins_wk: good question |
| 15:38.14 | blubberdiblub | Bombo, try removing the extension cache anyway |
| 15:39.07 | Bombo | i removed $HOME/.config/libreoffice/ completely |
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| 15:40.26 | Linox32 | why http://Myip/~DirName not working my httpd.conf I paste it there http://pastebin.com/hZipHq6R |
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| 15:44.55 | Bombo | hmm according to strace its hanging when: 'connect(3, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/tmp/OSL_PIPE_1000_SingleOfficeIPC_63f6eaad387a78cfe1c23eb3199da350"}, 110' |
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| 15:51.51 | jelly | does http://bugs.debian.org/src:linux-2.6 work for someone other than me? |
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| 15:53.15 | gnarface | jelly: not i... |
| 15:54.08 | TheAlien | hi there, got a current debian install 32bit (apt-get upgrade has nothing to do).. but my messages log is fulll of segfaults, sometimes many per minute.. hadnt noticed before but in particular im trying to use Prey anti-theft and found hundreds of python segfaults plus a few prey.sh segfaults.. any ideas whats wrong or how i can fix it?? tnx!! |
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| 15:55.50 | blubberdiblub | jelly, yes, works, just took some time |
| 15:56.43 | Bombo | hmmm it works for a new user |
| 15:56.55 | Bombo | (libreoffice) |
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| 15:57.07 | thewanderer1 | TheAlien: segfault is an invalid memory access, but shouldn't happen with Python I think... |
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| 16:00.51 | luftikuss | jelly: http://paste.debian.net/188446/ |
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| 16:01.48 | luftikuss | babilen: Thank you very much for correcting my address error. |
| 16:02.33 | Bombo | ok got it, there was one process still hanging around, i killed it, now i can start libreoffice ;) |
| 16:02.36 | Bombo | finally |
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| 16:03.42 | Bombo | babilen: thx btw for the help with my pakage mess ;) |
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| 16:05.31 | specing | TheAlien: "Pray anti-theft"? |
| 16:05.47 | specing | dafuq is that? |
| 16:05.54 | specing | Prey* |
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| 16:06.32 | Bombo | next problem: i got "auto eth1\niface eth1 inet manual" in my /etc/network/interfaces, then i run 'ifup eth1' but according to ifconfig there is no eth1, and so the rpppoe dsl stuff won't start |
| 16:07.00 | Bombo | shouldn't the eth1 be there? |
| 16:07.13 | specing | Bombo: don't you have to start the ppoe deamon first? |
| 16:07.33 | Bombo | specing: no it will complain about eth1 missing |
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| 16:08.04 | specing | It doesen't produce a reason for its complaint? |
| 16:08.06 | Bombo | i can do it manually: first 'ifconfig eth1 up; pppd' will work |
| 16:09.10 | Bombo | specing: like 'eth1 not found' i can't test now because i will go offline if i put eth1 down now ;) |
| 16:09.53 | specing | why dont you put iface eth1 inet static without further params and let ppoe take care of that? |
| 16:10.33 | Bombo | specing: wont it complain about the missing further params? |
| 16:10.52 | specing | Idk |
| 16:11.00 | specing | if it does put something random there? |
| 16:11.19 | specing | The ppoe daemon overrides it anyway, right? |
| 16:11.29 | Bombo | not really |
| 16:11.47 | specing | It doesen't? |
| 16:11.47 | Bombo | it creates a new device ppp0, which has the ip |
| 16:11.56 | specing | Hmmm |
| 16:11.59 | Bombo | ppp over ethernet that is |
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| 16:13.23 | Bombo | i added 'ifconfig eth1 up' to /etc/rc.local as a workaround now, that works. around. ;) |
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| 16:13.36 | Bombo | but shouldn't it work with ifup? |
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| 16:16.36 | Bombo | ok i tested with 'iface eth1:1 inet manual' |
| 16:16.51 | Bombo | $ ifup eth1:1 |
| 16:17.07 | jelly | luftikuss: ok, you seem to have done a largish update of the system. Can you do this again: "LC_ALL=C dpkg --configure -a" and "LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install" and show the output so we can look at just the remaining errors in English this time? |
| 16:17.12 | Bombo | ifconfig doesn't show it |
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| 16:17.22 | Bombo | $ ifup eth1:1 |
| 16:17.22 | Bombo | ifup: interface eth1:1 already configured |
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| 16:17.35 | Bombo | when i run it again |
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| 16:17.40 | Bombo | how come? |
| 16:18.35 | jelly | Bombo: ifup and ifdown do not know of any changes done with ifconfig, so you'd have to ifdown an interface they think it's up first, to be able to ifup it back |
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| 16:19.09 | Bombo | jelly: wat |
| 16:19.30 | jelly | Bombo: do "ifdown eth1:1" before ifup. |
| 16:20.17 | Bombo | yeah right, but the problem is ifconfig doesn't see the if created with ifup |
| 16:20.47 | jelly | if was not created at all, then |
| 16:20.50 | jelly | it* |
| 16:21.00 | Bombo | ok but why? |
| 16:21.13 | jelly | hard to tell without looking at the exact setup |
| 16:21.30 | Bombo | and ifup second time says 'ifup: interface eth1:1 already configured' |
| 16:21.48 | jelly | Bombo: pastebin the full /etc/network/interfaces file and ifconfig -a output |
| 16:22.18 | Bombo | /etc/network/interfaces: iface eth1:1 inet manual |
| 16:22.52 | jelly | is that really everything you have in there? |
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| 16:23.01 | jelly | one line? |
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| 16:23.25 | Bombo | the usual stuff for lo |
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| 16:23.53 | grifx | hello again guys |
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| 16:24.09 | grifx | What is the shortcut to search a command line I typed yesterday |
| 16:24.12 | jelly | Bombo: pastebin the full /etc/network/interfaces file and ifconfig -a output, please. |
| 16:24.32 | grifx | I want to type "ssh" and I want to see ssh command lines |
| 16:24.38 | blubberdiblub | grifx, try Ctrl-R and then typing part of the line |
| 16:24.48 | jelly | dpkg, tell Bombo about paste |
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| 16:25.35 | blubberdiblub | grifx, further Ctrl-Rs browse back in history through all matching lines |
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| 16:25.58 | grifx | blubberdiblub: thanks |
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| 16:26.32 | MySystem | me again a question do i need extendet partitions in linux ? would like to part my hd to 3 partitions root swap backup |
| 16:26.46 | luftikuss | jelly: My problem seems to have gone. Your 1st command did not produce any output. Your 2nd command produced only 4 lines; the last of which reads: "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded." |
| 16:27.23 | Bombo | jelly: http://paste.debian.net/188460/ |
| 16:27.31 | Bombo | jelly: does this work for you? |
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| 16:27.51 | jelly | luftikuss: that's good! |
| 16:28.05 | Bombo | jelly: you could just try that out ... if you dont have eth1:1 |
| 16:28.09 | jelly | that's what dpkg --configure -a and apt-get -f install are supposed to do |
| 16:28.21 | luftikuss | jelly: Thank you very much for your help. |
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| 16:29.40 | Bombo | echo "iface eth1:1 inet manual" >>/etc/network/interfaces; ifup eth1:1; ifconfig -a|grep eth1:1 |
| 16:29.46 | jelly | Bombo: ok. iface ... inet manual is a way to tell ifupdown tools that you're going to do any configuration manually. It does not do anything on its own, but is useful only if you add some up ... or down ... lines with commands. |
| 16:29.50 | Bombo | does that work for anyone? |
| 16:30.31 | Bombo | jelly: hmmkay |
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| 16:30.50 | jelly | Bombo: so an empty "iface eth1:1 inet manual" will just make a [x] tick for ifupdown when it's brought up, doesn't actually do anything |
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| 16:31.35 | Bombo | ok i tried 'iface eth1:1 inet static' |
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| 16:32.01 | Bombo | $ ifup eth1:1 -> Don't seem to have all the variables for eth1:1/inet. Failed to bring up eth1:1. |
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| 16:32.36 | Devastator | when you put static you have to tell address, netmask, gateway etc.. |
| 16:32.53 | jelly | Bombo: you can't just guess at syntax here. If you just need to bring the interface link up, make an "iface eth1 inet manual" and a "up ifconfig eth1 up" line after it |
| 16:32.54 | specing | eth1:1? |
| 16:33.02 | specing | Where did that come from? |
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| 16:34.05 | jelly | Bombo: eg. something like http://paste.debian.net/188465/ |
| 16:34.12 | Bombo | now i tried 'iface eth1:1 inet static address 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0' that worked, but i have a addr there, not sure if it will disturb the pppd |
| 16:34.30 | hasdwy | http://pastebin.com/3D9shaeb So, I'm building my initrds, and this appears. Where does /dev/md/876 come from? |
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| 16:34.56 | Bombo | jelly: oh nice trick ;) |
| 16:35.10 | hasdwy | I mean, I don't have such array, I don't have it in any configurations, I eradicated everything everywhere, but it still continues to complain. |
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| 16:35.20 | jelly | that's what iface manual is for, you do all the commands yourself |
| 16:37.01 | nronksr | I'm looking to build a debian server for virtualization. I'm looking at running raid5 on 4 disks and am looking for a raid controller card. Is there any particular cards that people are recommending in particular? Thanks! |
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| 16:37.47 | Bombo_ | ok now i killed myself ;) |
| 16:37.48 | specing | nronksr: mdraid |
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| 16:40.20 | hasdwy | nronksr: I'd suggest that you also investigate zfsonlinux. It builds and works on Debian. There are still some issues with it, and I guess your configuration will be unsupported, but I found it much less troublesome than hardware RAID cards and mdraid. |
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| 16:40.31 | hasdwy | nronksr: of course, don't go there without some research, there are some gotchas |
| 16:41.25 | Bombo | jelly: doesn't work: $ ifup eth1:1 -> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address, Failed to bring up eth1:1. |
| 16:42.09 | Bombo | jelly: i did use your interfaces http://paste.debian.net/188465/ just added :1 |
| 16:42.29 | jelly | Bombo: don't. |
| 16:43.12 | Bombo | hm now ifconfig eth1:1 up won't work anymore |
| 16:43.32 | jelly | Bombo: :1 is used for a second, third etc. IP address on an interface. You don't even have a first |
| 16:43.45 | jelly | nor do you apparently need it |
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| 16:44.09 | jelly | I omitted it intentionally |
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| 16:45.09 | Bombo | i got the first one, added it manually with ifconfig eth1 up |
| 16:45.45 | Bombo | i know i don't need eth1:1, it was just for testing, because if i take down eth1 i kill my dsl line |
| 16:46.20 | jelly | if you need an ip on eth1, just put it on eth1 |
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| 16:47.21 | Bombo | thats the problem, i don't need an ip on eth1 ;) |
| 16:47.31 | GoodJob | guys, how to turn on module for this function? http://php.net/manual/en/function.mcrypt-decrypt.php |
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| 16:48.11 | Bombo | jelly: i just need the same thing, like 'ifconfig eth1 up' |
| 16:48.27 | Bombo | (because that works with pppoe) |
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| 16:48.43 | nronksr | hasdwy: I'll take a look at it. thnx. |
| 16:48.46 | jelly | Bombo: if you're going to keep it, you can use the usual inet static as well |
| 16:48.59 | hasdwy | GoodJob: I've not used vanilla packages extensively, but have you tried installing php5-mcrypt? |
| 16:49.14 | hasdwy | GoodJob: Err, vanilla PHP packages from Debian. |
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| 16:50.06 | Bombo | jelly: it will have a ip addr assigned then |
| 16:50.12 | GoodJob | nope |
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| 16:50.27 | GoodJob | I think php-mcrypt should work, I will try |
| 16:50.35 | Bombo | ok i'm trying with eth1 now, bbs |
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| 16:52.56 | GoodJob | thanks hasdwy, I installed php5-mcrypt and it works now. Configuration doesn't include it by default... |
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| 16:56.05 | hasdwy | When I'm updating my initramfs, is this a problem if I'm not using cryptsetup: cryptsetup: WARNING: failed to detect canonical device of /dev/md48 |
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| 16:56.25 | Bombo | jelly: ok worked perfect with eth1, thx ;) |
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| 16:58.16 | Bombo | aliases probably always need an ip, like 'ifconfig eth1:1 10.0.0.1 up' |
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| 17:09.46 | hasdwy | What is the general way to figure out if my initramfs, grub and kernel configuration will boot? And how to figure out what's missing? I keep ending up with an (initramfs) shell and a broken keyboard |
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| 17:10.25 | hasdwy | During the installation of Debian, I'm usually asked if I need all my RAID arrays to boot, where do I set that? |
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| 17:11.14 | hasdwy | Do I need to explicitly add raid1 and raid10 to /etc/initramfs/modules? |
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| 17:12.24 | karlpinc | hasdwy: The usual way to deal with initramfs is to run 'update-initramfs -u'. That rebuilds the initramfs based on what's currently in existance. Sorry, can't help with more detail. |
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| 17:13.41 | karlpinc | hasdwy: I wouldn't worry about the cryptsetup warning. |
| 17:14.04 | hasdwy | karlpinc: I was looking for something like dpkg-reconfigure initramfs-tools (which does nothing to me) |
| 17:14.09 | hasdwy | err, for me |
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| 17:17.01 | icarious | i bought a new laptop which has a Atheros AR8162 lan card which doesnt not works out of the box without the ALX driver.. and a broadcom 4313 wireless. the question is. how do i install the wireless without having access to the lan card? |
| 17:17.08 | hasdwy | OK, I found it, it was in dpkg-reconfigure mdadm :) Now it added my arrays to the initramfs (supposedly) |
| 17:18.19 | hasdwy | (The thing that bothers me is that now it tells me that my system is unbootable, it *didn't* tell me so when I was missing all the arrays. |
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| 17:22.33 | hasdwy | OK, I managed to boot it, but now I don't know my root password. Great. Thanks everybody |
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| 17:27.06 | _DomY-Dom | Hi trying to test my courier IMAP setup with telnet 127.0.0.1 imap2 but have no idea what the username and password are which go with the AB LOGIN "user" "password"… the root ones ? any users ? Debian-exim ? Yes I have a Debian 6 server with exim4 |
| 17:27.48 | jelly-home | _DomY-Dom: try a normal user |
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| 17:33.36 | _DomY-Dom | jelly-home: it seems to work now but I don't know if it receives email yet one sec |
| 17:34.45 | jelly-home | _DomY-Dom: you might find mutt -f imap://username@localhost/ a bit more friendly than telnet |
| 17:35.30 | _DomY-Dom | jelly-home: k thanks, one sec it's not completely functional yet |
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| 17:38.41 | _DomY-Dom | jelly-home: I sent an email externally to username@whatever.com which is in this format in /etc/email-adresses "username: username@whatever.org" after having configured exim4, restarted exim4, tested locally "echo "test" | mail -s "test" username" & "tail -f /var/log/exim4/mainlog" got courier configured it, just tested it it is working. The email didn't bounce back but still haven't received it in /home/username/Maildir/new… Can I PM ? |
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| 17:39.21 | _DomY-Dom | whatever.com * |
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| 17:44.48 | _DomY-Dom | jelly-home: you there ? |
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| 17:48.00 | crocket | With debian's apache2, if <Directory> points to a directory outside DocumentRoot that's symlinked to DocumentRoot, the directory section is applied. |
| 17:48.06 | crocket | With slackware's apache2, it is ignored. |
| 17:48.22 | crocket | Was it built wrong? |
| 17:48.32 | gnarface | crocket: i believe its just a difference in the Options flags you've set |
| 17:48.45 | crocket | gnarface, such as? |
| 17:48.53 | prietus | _DomY-Dom, how does your dns resolve the inverses |
| 17:48.59 | crocket | FollowSymLinks was available everywhere. |
| 17:49.21 | _DomY-Dom | prietus: I don't understand the question |
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| 17:50.03 | jelly-home | _DomY-Dom: busy a bit |
| 17:50.04 | gnarface | crocket: maybe i misunderstood your problem. can you state more explicitly what you're trying to do? |
| 17:50.25 | crocket | gnarface, /path/to/b is DocumentRoot |
| 17:50.33 | gnarface | okay... |
| 17:50.36 | jelly-home | _DomY-Dom: also, I know next to nothing about exim |
| 17:50.37 | prietus | _DomY-Dom, if your dns resolve the inverse as 49.3*.dynamic.jazztel.es probably you are balcklisted |
| 17:50.46 | crocket | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:50.54 | gnarface | ... okay |
| 17:51.06 | crocket | <Directory /path/to/a> is ignored while <Directory /path/to/b/w> is applied. |
| 17:51.35 | _DomY-Dom | prietus: I don't think so since I've already configured it before but when I reinstalled the server and setup BIND now it isn't exactly working correctly, well you read the description. how do I check what you are saying ? |
| 17:51.50 | dondelelcaro | crocket: yes, that's expected. |
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| 17:52.05 | crocket | dondelelcaro, That's what happens on slackware. |
| 17:52.14 | dondelelcaro | "(An exception is filesystem links. The same directory can be placed in more than one part of the filesystem using symbolic links. The <Directory> directive will follow the symbolic link without resetting the pathname." |
| 17:52.15 | crocket | But on debian, <Directory /path/to/a> is applied. |
| 17:52.30 | prietus | _DomY-Dom, look for your ip in some blaclist sites |
| 17:52.32 | bizhanMona | Hello, how could I force OS to probe the PCI bus again, way after it has already booted?? |
| 17:52.33 | dondelelcaro | crocket: which version of apache? |
| 17:52.44 | crocket | dondelelcaro, 2.2.22 on slackware, and 2.2.16 on debian. |
| 17:53.09 | crocket | dondelelcaro, What do you mean by resetting the pathname? |
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| 17:55.31 | TheWarden | Hi, is there a way to use chmod to alter only directories recursive? |
| 17:55.45 | crocket | dondelelcaro, On debian, documentroot is /var/www, and /var/www has w which symlinks to /srv/mediawiki |
| 17:55.56 | crocket | dondelelcaro, <Directory /srv/mediawiki> is respected. |
| 17:56.35 | acemi | TheWarden: find . -type d | xargs chmod ... |
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| 17:56.51 | _DomY-Dom | prietus: pretty sure it's not there |
| 17:57.10 | gnarface | crocket: and you're using *identical* configs on slackware and not getting identical behavior? |
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| 17:57.21 | crocket | gnarface, I don't use identical configs. |
| 17:57.33 | prietus | ok _DomY-Dom good news, this blacklist sites are annoying |
| 17:57.51 | crocket | gnarface, But identical situation. |
| 17:58.44 | TheWarden | acemi: I did "find -type d | xargs chmod -R 775 /var/www/sites/delta/" and it did all files and directories. |
| 17:59.17 | gnarface | crocket: question: do you have + or - on any of your Options flags in either slackware or debian, on either the docroot or the external directory you're linking to? |
| 17:59.37 | acemi | TheWarden: find /var/www/sites/delta -type d | xargs chmod 775 |
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| 18:00.19 | TheWarden | acemi: I guess it did this due to the -R parameter. Is there any way to use -R with chmod in this manner? |
| 18:00.29 | crocket | gnarface, Both have + flags for SymLinks |
| 18:00.32 | dondelelcaro | crocket: well, that's not what is supposed to happen. This kind of sounds like you have some kind of rewrite or something else which is actually taking effect, and not the symlink |
| 18:00.36 | TheWarden | oh wait I see your version one sec let me try that instead. |
| 18:00.47 | dondelelcaro | crocket: but without actually seeing the configuration, I can't say. |
| 18:00.47 | crocket | dondelelcaro, rewrite? |
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| 18:00.56 | dondelelcaro | crocket: yes, mod_rewrite. |
| 18:01.10 | crocket | dondelelcaro, mod_rewrite only rewrites URLs. |
| 18:01.10 | TheWarden | acemi: nope did that same thing as soon as I add the -R to chmod |
| 18:01.25 | acemi | TheWarden: don't add -R |
| 18:01.47 | TheWarden | acemi: well I know that, but don't you have to to make it recursive? |
| 18:01.48 | acemi | find pass the directory name as parameter |
| 18:02.17 | acemi | find command will find all the sub directories |
| 18:02.36 | crocket | dondelelcaro, So I should have a directory section point to the symlink instead of the real directory? |
| 18:02.38 | dondelelcaro | crocket: no, it rewrites requests. |
| 18:03.09 | dondelelcaro | crocket: and just testing right now, I can't replicate the behavoir you are seeing. Everything works as the documentation says, and directory rules do not apply to symlinks |
| 18:03.45 | _DomY-Dom | prietus:: you haven't solved my problem.. |
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| 18:04.04 | TheWarden | acemi: okay, well then this works awesome thanks. One thing though, what does xargs do? |
| 18:04.11 | crocket | dondelelcaro, ok |
| 18:04.11 | prietus | lol _DomY-Dom i only suggested ... |
| 18:04.46 | dondelelcaro | crocket: but yes, if you want that to apply, ti would be <Directory /var/www/w/> or similar |
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| 18:05.20 | acemi | find write the directory name to the pipe and xargs gets it from pipe and uses with the command (chmod) |
| 18:06.03 | Desproges | Hi, maybe I can find help here: I cannot auto-log in when I do "ssh git@myserver.net -i /home/git/.ssh/id_rsa" , but I can with "ssh git@myserver.net -i /home/git/.ssh/id_rsa" : the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys are identical. What do I miss ? |
| 18:06.08 | dondelelcaro | points out that you really want find [...] -print0|xargs -0 [...], but you'll figure that out soon enough |
| 18:06.16 | Desproges | sorry, the 2nd is michael@myserver.net |
| 18:06.21 | Desproges | Hi, maybe I can find help here: I cannot auto-log in when I do "ssh git@myserver.net -i /home/git/.ssh/id_rsa" , but I can with "ssh michael@myserver.net -i /home/git/.ssh/id_rsa" : the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys are identical. What do I miss ? |
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| 18:06.44 | TheWarden | acemi: oh okay, thanks for the help and explanation. |
| 18:06.54 | acemi | np |
| 18:07.05 | dondelelcaro | Desproges: what does ssh -vv say? Have you checked the auth log on myserver.net? |
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| 18:07.25 | dondelelcaro | Desproges: just guessing, but the typical problem is that the permissions on ~git/.ssh are wrong. (or on ~git, or similar) |
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| 18:07.58 | Desproges | debug1: Next authentication method: publickey |
| 18:07.59 | Desproges | debug1: Offering RSA public key: /home/git/.ssh/id_rsa |
| 18:08.01 | Desproges | debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply |
| 18:08.03 | Desproges | debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password |
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| 18:08.04 | Desproges | debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method |
| 18:08.06 | Desproges | debug1: Next authentication method: password |
| 18:08.08 | Desproges | (when that didn't work) |
| 18:08.19 | Desproges | sry for the copy/paste, I will use gist next time |
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| 18:08.51 | Desproges | I checked the right permissions, they are the same in both dir |
| 18:09.59 | dondelelcaro | Desproges: well, they shouldn't be the same. |
| 18:10.03 | tharkun | Desproges: git and michaelni are different users. Check both .ssh/authorized_keys for the proper public keys and also check the permissions for that file |
| 18:11.06 | tharkun | An overall check to the git user would be apropiate |
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| 18:12.11 | Desproges | thanks you tharkun |
| 18:12.13 | Desproges | ! |
| 18:12.29 | Desproges | and others too :) |
| 18:12.41 | Desproges | the problem whas the authorized_keys file : https://gist.github.com/3668270 |
| 18:12.47 | Desproges | +w for the group |
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| 18:23.04 | LemensTS | i can ping www.mysite.com, but i cannot ssh to it. This is from debian of course. search asmallorange.com ... ssh: Could not resolve hostname www.mysite.com: No address associated with hostname |
| 18:23.16 | LemensTS | I don't understand why? |
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| 18:26.14 | tharkun | LemensTS: since this is a dns problem (so it seems) use dig www.example.com so you can check it properly |
| 18:26.35 | jebbo | hi! I've got no problems connecting to my wifi-gateway with wicd, but I would just like to just /etc/network/interfaces - but something seem to be missing. It might be that I haven't set the default router/gateway, how is that done? |
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| 18:28.13 | tremon | jebbo: man 5 interfaces |
| 18:29.25 | tremon | jebbo: so you did manage to get wpa handshaking working, or is this a public ap? |
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| 18:29.34 | luftikuss | [Debian wheezy/sid] To get more disk space for Debian, I deleted a partition of another operating system. Unfortunately this partition contained some Grub files. When trying to boot now the computer only writes: "grub; rescue >". My live CD shows that Grub is installed on the Debian root partition. How to fix grub? |
| 18:29.59 | jhutchins_wk | !fixgrub |
| 18:29.59 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> simply boot to your Debian install disk, live CD or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc), then chroot into it (chroot /target) and run "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". Also ask me about <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
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| 18:30.25 | debbox | hello. does anybody use pmount? whenever i try to 'pmount -w /dev/sdb1' i get 'mount: warning: /media/sdb1 seems to be mounted read-only' |
| 18:30.36 | jebbo | tremon, its private. I had no problems before using essid/passwords, but the problem might be that it is using WPA... |
| 18:31.10 | luftikuss | jhutchins_wk: I will try. |
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| 18:31.18 | tremon | luftikuss: for the sake of clarity, note that "installing grub" has two different meanings 1) installation of the grub package (with dpkg/apt) 2) installation of the grub bootloader onto the boot drive |
| 18:31.47 | tremon | the latter normally isn't "installed" on any partition |
| 18:32.30 | jebbo | isn't there a simple GUI to configure /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 18:33.02 | tremon | well, there is gvim... |
| 18:33.05 | tremon | ducks |
| 18:33.32 | jebbo | actually,,, I was using an old |
| 18:33.48 | jebbo | 'interfaces' config-file, but it still didnt work. |
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| 18:34.00 | jebbo | even that I changed the channel / password / essid... |
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| 18:34.18 | jebbo | then, I figure it could be something wrong with the route/gateway,,, |
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| 18:34.50 | tremon | jebbo: that should be easy to test, though... ip route add default via <gateway-ip> |
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| 18:35.12 | jebbo | tremon, and that should be gw=192.168.1.1, right? |
| 18:35.20 | tremon | nope |
| 18:35.30 | luftikuss | tremon: I am here concerned with meaning 2.) |
| 18:35.46 | tremon | that's entirely dependent on your home network, mine is 172.22.21.1 |
| 18:35.59 | jebbo | actually mine is 192.168.1.1 |
| 18:36.00 | jebbo | ... |
| 18:36.17 | jebbo | thats what I connect to, with wicd... |
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| 18:36.33 | jebbo | and thats what I can login in to with firefox.. |
| 18:36.44 | tremon | jebbo: ok, but there is no way anyone in #debian can answer that question for you |
| 18:36.53 | jebbo | so I could just add the line ip route add default via 192.168.1.1, and it would hopefully work? |
| 18:37.20 | jebbo | will try it. ps. thanks. |
| 18:37.46 | tremon | no, ip route is a command that you can use to test if simply adding a default gateway will solve your issue |
| 18:38.21 | tremon | assuming you had dhcp before, at the very least you would need to verify your dns server list in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 18:38.35 | jebbo | tremon, ah. but if I would like it to be set when the computer boots? |
| 18:38.51 | jebbo | resolv.conf! thats it. thanks |
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| 18:39.33 | helena | How do I get an X server to run on each screen? |
| 18:39.33 | tremon | luftikuss: yes, I had guessed that, which is why I wrote that. the grub bootloader isn't "installed on a partition" (the bios would never find it there, so it would never show), it's installed onto the master boot record (mbr) of your primary harddisk |
| 18:39.48 | helena | I have two screens that I want to use an X server on each |
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| 18:40.57 | helena | or atleast a TTY on each |
| 18:41.21 | tremon | helena: you need two separate "screen" sections in xorg.conf, and a serverlayout that contains references to both screens |
| 18:42.03 | tremon | I'm fuzzy on the details though, the internet should be able to help |
| 18:42.54 | tremon | jebbo: for config at boot, check man interfaces for the gateway directive |
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| 18:43.44 | helena | tremon: I'm googling now but can't find anything. |
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| 18:45.19 | tremon | ok, let me try |
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| 18:46.12 | jhutchins_wk | helena: Actually, xrandr will usually set both up, and you don't need an xorg.conf |
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| 18:46.41 | jhutchins_wk | helena: Both Gnome and KDE have monitor settings applets that will configure them for you. |
| 18:47.08 | helena | jhutchins_wk: I am really comfortable with xrandr and using a frontend like arandr but arandr is not so good. :( |
| 18:47.12 | helena | I use dwm |
| 18:47.48 | nronksr | Does debian support the ZFS file structure system at all? |
| 18:48.08 | LemensTS | how do i enter a manual dns ip if i am using dynamic ip on that interface? I have this: http://pastebin.com/ZpvHK8Su but when i do /etc/init.d/networking restart and check /etc/resolv.conf it has the dynamic dns from my dsl modem still |
| 18:48.25 | tremon | ah, first: helena, do you really mean dual-screen (as in, a separate session on each monitor), or do you want an extended desktop where you can move windows from one monitor to the other? |
| 18:48.33 | nronksr | or is the zfsonlinux.com the current devlopment? |
| 18:48.36 | LemensTS | ps..if i etic /etc/resolv.conf manually and restart networking, it puts it back to the dynamic dns from my dsl modem also |
| 18:48.49 | helena | tremon: dual |
| 18:49.41 | acemi | LemensTS: see /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf |
| 18:49.55 | acemi | LemensTS: prepend |
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| 18:51.51 | tremon | helena: http://linux.die.net/man/5/xorg.conf for the official manual, http://forums.pcbsd.org/showthread.php?t=8100 should get you started. You only need the sections "serverlayout", "screen" and "device", but you need a lot less config than that |
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| 18:52.34 | tremon | and obviously, you need to change the "device" section to match your machine (driver and busid) |
| 18:52.44 | jhutchins_wk | !zfs |
| 18:52.44 | dpkg | ZFS (originally Zettabyte File System) is a file system / logical volume manager developed by Sun Microsystems (http://deb.li/7xXU). The Debian GNU/kFreeBSD kernel since 7.2 has ZFS support, the userland utilities are packaged as zfsutils in squeeze. A <FUSE> implementation for Debian GNU/Linux systems is in zfs-fuse. For ZFS on Squeeze, see http://deb.li/i4JhI . http://zfs-fuse.net/ #zfs-fuse on irc.freenode.net. |
| 18:52.47 | helena | but tremon |
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| 18:52.59 | helena | I'm uncomfortable with xorg.conf |
| 18:53.05 | helena | I wanted a GUi frontend |
| 18:53.11 | tremon | ah... |
| 18:53.28 | tremon | I'm not sure there is a gui to configure multiple screens |
| 18:53.39 | jhutchins_wk | helena: so xrandr, problem solved. Next? |
| 18:54.34 | tremon | the only gui's I know use xrandr, and that can only configure displays for the current screen session, it cannot start new sessions |
| 18:54.44 | helena | jhutchins_wk: That's NOT a gui! |
| 18:54.55 | helena | I'm after a GUI or TUI! |
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| 18:54.59 | LemensTS | thank you acemi, that worked! |
| 18:55.08 | acemi | np |
| 18:55.32 | tremon | helena: the gui tool depends on the session manager you're running. for gnome, it's gnome-display-settings (iirc) |
| 18:55.47 | helena | I don't have gnome |
| 18:55.49 | helena | I have dwm |
| 18:55.52 | helena | not gnome |
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| 18:56.36 | tremon | hrm... first google hit is http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Dwm#Multiple_Monitors_with_DWM |
| 18:56.56 | tremon | no xui there sadly |
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| 18:58.24 | helena | nvm thanks for the help |
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| 19:11.20 | luftikuss | jhutchins_wk: You recommended via <dpkg> a "/target". What do you mean by that? Please elaborate where I should mount my /dev/sda5 partition. |
| 19:12.27 | a_person_ | is there any pdf reader in the main repository that is DE agnostic and not using Qt? Something like epdfview but less buggy? |
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| 19:12.49 | grobda24 | mallxs: pulseaudio |
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| 19:13.23 | jelly-home | a_person_: eh, I use okular. In xfce. |
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| 19:13.46 | jelly-home | yes it's a kde app, but it's nice and works |
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| 19:14.31 | _DomY-Dom | I configured exim4 on debian 6 it to deliver mail in maildir. When I echo "my test" | mail -s "test message" mailto:thing@thing.com I recieve it in the Maildir/new directory for the user thing, but if I send an e-mail from my Gmail to mailto:thing@thing.com for example, it doesn't bounce back on Gmail but nothing in the Maildir/new director. courier-imap and courier-ssl are installed, TLS & Authentification & all certificate thingies aren't done but testi |
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| 19:14.45 | mallxs | grobda24: thx |
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| 19:15.56 | specing | _DomY-Dom: do you get traffic @tcp/25? |
| 19:16.11 | _DomY-Dom | specing: how do I check ? |
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| 19:16.25 | a_person | sorry, just experienced a kernel panic. jelly-home, uuh, Okular, too resource wasting |
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| 19:16.54 | specing | _DomY-Dom: iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 25 -m state --state NEW -j LOG |
| 19:17.05 | specing | _DomY-Dom: tail -f /var/log/syslog |
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| 19:18.35 | jelly-home | a_person: it ate 111MB RES for a 495p debian-handbook.pdf |
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| 19:18.54 | jelly-home | a_person: just how limited is your destination platform? |
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| 19:19.04 | _DomY-Dom | specing: nothinig to do with mail in there… so I guess no. |
| 19:19.07 | dondelelcaro | _DomY-Dom: do you see the mail being sent to your computer in the mail logs? |
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| 19:19.27 | a_person | jelly-home: my laptop got 8 GiB of RAM but I don't want to waste resources anyway |
| 19:19.40 | dondelelcaro | _DomY-Dom: if not, then either your ISP is blocking 25, you don't have your DNS records set properly, or your MTA isn't configured properly |
| 19:19.45 | jelly-home | a_person: that's silly |
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| 19:20.03 | a_person | jelly-home: need the RAM for VMs |
| 19:20.26 | jelly-home | a_person: the most expensive resource you have is your limited time spent on computer stuff |
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| 19:21.16 | specing | _DomY-Dom: you'll get packet dumps in there |
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| 19:21.34 | specing | more accurately packet headers |
| 19:21.37 | a_person | jelly-home: true... |
| 19:21.40 | jelly-home | a_person: take a look at how much RAM your browser eats and compare it to okular |
| 19:21.43 | specing | now rerun the gmail send |
| 19:22.22 | specing | a_person: checkout zathura |
| 19:22.36 | specing | its the least bloated pdf reader if you ask me |
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| 19:22.45 | specing | see also suckless.org |
| 19:22.53 | _DomY-Dom | dondelelcaro & specing: I see internal mail in logs as in from the webuser@sperec.fr (authentification from Wordpress) & if I send myself an email from the server, but if I send from Gmail, etc nothing shows up in the log |
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| 19:23.21 | _DomY-Dom | server.fr * |
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| 19:23.54 | dondelelcaro | _DomY-Dom: and you can connect to localhost:25 and send the mail? also, server.fr doesn't have an MX record. |
| 19:24.01 | specing | _DomY-Dom: mail is not IRC, it may take some time to arrive |
| 19:24.23 | jelly-home | dondelelcaro: but there's an A record |
| 19:24.28 | a_person | specing: zathura looks solid |
| 19:24.31 | _DomY-Dom | dondelelcaro: server.com * I was giving an example |
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| 19:24.42 | specing | a_person: really do take a look at suckless.org |
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| 19:24.50 | a_person | epdfview were great if it only were less buggy ;) |
| 19:24.55 | dondelelcaro | jelly-home: yes. |
| 19:24.58 | specing | a_person: Which window manager are you using? |
| 19:25.08 | a_person | specing: I am at that site. I am using openbox |
| 19:25.09 | jelly-home | _DomY-Dom: the implicit point is, if you told the real domain name it'd be easier to see what's wrong |
| 19:25.18 | dondelelcaro | specing: they all use libpoppler, which is what is loadiing the pdf... |
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| 19:25.47 | dondelelcaro | _DomY-Dom: well, it's rather difficult to know what precisely is wrong. We could figure it out immediately if we knew the domain |
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| 19:25.55 | specing | dondelelcaro: I do wonder how pdfs were rendered back in the 32M ram days... |
| 19:25.59 | _DomY-Dom | specing & dondelelcaro: send an email to maintool@maintool.fr from your personal inbox, it won't show up in maildir and in the logs but if you are someone@maintool.fr on the server then it will. |
| 19:26.00 | dondelelcaro | (otherwise, we can just sit here and ask amusing questions) |
| 19:26.29 | dondelelcaro | _DomY-Dom: port 25 is blocked on maintool.fr |
| 19:26.32 | _DomY-Dom | dondelelcaro & specing: switch to #exim someone is trying to help me there |
| 19:26.42 | a_person | specing: ;) |
| 19:26.46 | dondelelcaro | _DomY-Dom: either you are firewalling it, exim isn't on 25, or your ISP is. |
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| 19:27.03 | dondelelcaro | specing: very slowly, and they tended not to have many figures |
| 19:27.18 | specing | I don't get it why everything must be loading into the RAM at the start |
| 19:27.45 | dondelelcaro | specing: except it's not; you trade off ram for quicker viewing |
| 19:28.17 | dondelelcaro | specing: you can certainly render a pdf with very little memory, but you'll have to redraw the entire thing as you go. |
| 19:28.36 | _DomY-Dom | specing & dondelelcaro ==> #exim |
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| 19:29.46 | a_person | specing: suckless.org is a nice website. Thanks for the link |
| 19:30.19 | styler | hi.. what is the recommended way to install chromium-browser + java plugin? |
| 19:30.44 | styler | i did apt-get install chromium-browser icedtea6-plugin + openjdk but no luck |
| 19:30.55 | styler | using squeeze |
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| 19:31.17 | specing | a_person: I use nearly 1/2 of all the things on there |
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| 19:32.12 | specing | styler: Its hard to install a security hole, yep :) |
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| 19:34.48 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions chromium-browser |
| 19:34.49 | judd | Package: chromium-browser on i386 -- squeeze: 6.0.472.63~r59945-5+squeeze6; squeeze-security: 6.0.472.63~r59945-5+squeeze6; sid: 21.0.1180.89~r154005-1; wheezy: 21.0.1180.89~r154005-1 |
| 19:35.24 | jhutchins_wk | styler: icedtea and openjdk don't often work. |
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| 19:41.14 | dpkg | java-package (formerly mpkg-j2se, j2se-package) provides the make-jpkg utility for creating Debian packages from manually downloaded <Java> distributions. It was removed from Debian post-Lenny (Debian bug #577423) and reintroduced February 2012. java-package currently supports Oracle Java 6 (update >= 10) and Oracle Java 7. http://wiki.debian.org/JavaPackage . Where possible, use <OpenJDK> instead, ask me about <install java>. |
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| 19:46.59 | jelly-home | styler: you can download java JRE self-extractor or tar.gz (not rpm!) from oracle and use that thing to make an installable package out of it |
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| 19:53.33 | jelly-home | styler: the result looks like http://jebo.me/paket/oracle-j2re1.6_1.6.0+update35_i386.deb |
| 19:53.50 | jelly-home | (don't download that binary package though, you don't know where it's been) |
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| 19:56.56 | JessicaW | is there somewhere special you have to add a path for sudo if you've added the path to the .bashrc for root and the user? |
| 19:57.48 | JessicaW | i.e. export PATH=/opt/scripts:$PATH |
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| 20:05.58 | jelly-home | JessicaW: read about secure_path in man sudoers |
| 20:06.42 | JessicaW | ahhh. I'm still in the command environment part of man. thing reads like stereo instructions.... :| |
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| 20:11.39 | KsM | Just out of curiousity, is there a way to mix apt-get source and apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 20:12.21 | ImaLamer | as in build your distribution upgrade from source? |
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| 20:13.05 | KsM | yes |
| 20:13.12 | KsM | would it be apt-get -b upgrade? |
| 20:13.17 | jelly-home | KsM: what's your actual goal |
| 20:13.33 | KsM | I just want to know if it's possible |
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| 20:14.06 | jelly-home | if _what_ is possible? |
| 20:14.15 | KsM | 22:11.39 < KsM> Just out of curiousity, is there a way to mix apt-get source and apt-get dist-upgrade? |
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| 20:14.28 | ImaLamer | I'd be interested if it's possible too (build your dist-upgrade from source) |
| 20:14.41 | KsM | As in do a dist-upgrade but compiling the packages instead of installing the .debs directly |
| 20:14.42 | jelly-home | KsM: yeah, I'm asking for you to explain that mix, it's a bit fuzzy |
| 20:14.46 | jelly-home | oh |
| 20:15.05 | jelly-home | KsM: there's no working tool to do it automatically right now |
| 20:15.21 | aidalgol | OOC, why would you want to do that? |
| 20:15.22 | jelly-home | !apt-build |
| 20:15.24 | dpkg | well, apt-build is an apt-get front-end for recompiling packages; http://julien.danjou.info/projects/ . Warning -- this program will not optimize your packages for you as advertised; the gcc O flags and friends that you specify are not even parsed properly. In a breath, don't bother with it, because apt-get source/build-dep is far more useful. |
| 20:15.39 | ImaLamer | could you pull the sources locally, compile them and then install from those locally built packages? |
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| 20:15.44 | luftikuss | What is the command-line command to show for all partitions the device name (for example /dev/sda5) and its correponding UUID? |
| 20:16.13 | jelly-home | aidalgol: a set of local backports with automatic updates comes to mind |
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| 20:16.26 | aidalgol | luftikuss: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ |
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| 20:16.37 | jelly-home | luftikuss: blkid |
| 20:16.46 | aidalgol | jelly-home: Ah, good point. |
| 20:17.07 | KsM | jelly-home: so apt-get -b dist-upgrade would just do a nirmal dist-upgrade? |
| 20:17.10 | KsM | *normal |
| 20:17.15 | aidalgol | was not aware of blkid |
| 20:17.37 | jelly-home | KsM: I don't know whether dist-upgrade takes a -b at all |
| 20:17.52 | jelly-home | KsM: is it in the manual? |
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| 20:18.47 | KsM | not really |
| 20:18.58 | luftikuss | aidalgol: It works! Thank you very much for your help. |
| 20:19.23 | aidalgol | luftikuss: Actually, blkid is probably a better tool than what I suggested. :P |
| 20:19.45 | gnarface | iceweasel used to have in-line spell checking in form fields for me at one point, like most my other gtk programs (pidgin, xchat, icedove even) how do i turn that back on? |
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| 20:20.40 | luftikuss | jelly-home, aidagol: No, this lists on a live CD only label and type of /dev/sr0. |
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| 20:21.37 | jelly-home | luftikuss: that cd does not have a partition! |
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| 20:22.31 | aidalgol | gnarface: It's under Preferences->Advanced |
| 20:22.32 | agike | ! |
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| 20:22.47 | jelly-home | luftikuss: uuids are a property of the filesystem; apparently, iso9660 fs type does not have anything applicable, or it's not mandatory |
| 20:22.50 | luftikuss | jelly-home: Well, the hard disk has very well 7 partitions, and ls -l /dev/disk/by uuid shows them. |
| 20:23.10 | jelly-home | luftikuss: and blkid, esp. when run as root, ought to show them as well |
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| 20:24.08 | gnarface | aidalgol: its checked. looks like there's already a bug filed |
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| 20:24.32 | luftikuss | jelly-home: Eureka! I need the sudo prefix. Then '~$ sudo blkid' works excellent. |
| 20:24.36 | aidalgol | gnarface: Weird. It's working for me. (version 10.0.7) |
| 20:24.49 | ddfreyne | Hi. I’m running into a dependency problem - http://pastie.org/4681924 and apt-get -f install cannot resolve it. Any clue how I should proceed? |
| 20:24.56 | gnarface | aidalgol: 10.0.7esr-1 ? /me shrug |
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| 20:25.14 | jelly-home | ddfreyne: have you run "apt-get update" before that? |
| 20:25.22 | gnarface | aidalgol: shouldn't matter but i'm also on amd64 |
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| 20:25.30 | aidalgol | gnarface: same |
| 20:25.41 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell ddfreyne about bat |
| 20:25.44 | ddfreyne | jelly-home: I have |
| 20:25.46 | aidalgol | Is the gtk spell-checker library not installed? |
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| 20:26.46 | gnarface | aidalgol: its gotta be. xchat is spell checking this line as i type it. icedove and pidgin also still work fine. |
| 20:26.48 | jelly-home | ddfreyne: your sources.list may be incomplete, then. Which Debian release are you using? |
| 20:26.56 | aidalgol | gnarface: weird... |
| 20:27.15 | gnarface | aidalgol: if i right-click on one of the fields, the spell check box in that menu is NOT checked... |
| 20:27.28 | jelly-home | ddfreyne: if you read the private message dpkg sent you, follow th advice in there and provide the relevant information |
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| 20:27.44 | gnarface | aidalgol: oh but i just checked it and it doesn't do anything |
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| 20:27.51 | ddfreyne | Yeah, I was thinking about a broken apt/sources.list… here’s mine: http://pastie.org/4681947 (with apt-cache policy included as well) |
| 20:28.24 | gnarface | checks for new iceweasel versions |
| 20:28.52 | ddfreyne | pastie updated and apt-cache policy for mysql-server-5.5 added |
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| 20:29.19 | ddfreyne | jelly-home: that should be the information you need |
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| 20:30.11 | jelly-home | ddfreyne: get rid of "stable"; replace all the occurences of "testing" with "wheezy"; rerun apt-get update; show the output of "apt-cache policy mysql-server-5.5 mysql-server-core-5.5" as well. |
| 20:30.34 | _DomY-Dom | Hi again. dondelelcaro & specing, thanks to you and to cannonball on #exim, I got everything working. I even got Webmail to work However this is the thing : in my exim4 setup I wanted to be able to have emails for multiple domains so I added them in the setup, thinking that then when you edit /etc/email-adresses , that's how you assign a specific email to each user. I also remember however running maildirmake /etc/skel/maildir. It turns out though that let's |
| 20:30.58 | jelly-home | ddfreyne: mixing stable with anything else is never a good idea |
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| 20:32.20 | ddfreyne | jelly-home: alright, just did that… here’s the current output → http://pastie.org/4681977 (after an apt-get update) |
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| 20:33.50 | ddfreyne | not sure how to proceed here. I am not entirely sure I understand what the problem is either |
| 20:34.01 | _DomY-Dom | jelly-home, dondelelcaro, specing: do you know the answer to my question ? |
| 20:34.07 | jelly-home | ddfreyne: looks about right, you ought to be able to run apt-get -f install now |
| 20:34.38 | jelly-home | _DomY-Dom: not me |
| 20:34.47 | _DomY-Dom | jelly-home: ok. |
| 20:34.53 | jelly-home | but if you switch to postfix... :-) |
| 20:34.59 | ddfreyne | jelly-home: No luck. That gives me this: http://pastie.org/4681998 |
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| 20:36.06 | gnarface | _DomY-Dom: i've done this. you're not gonna like my answer though. |
| 20:37.00 | jelly-home | ddfreyne: that is weird. Does "apt-get install mysql-server-5.5" or "aptitude -f install" fail as well? |
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| 20:37.53 | Devastator | doesn't mysql got replaced by maria? |
| 20:38.15 | bizhanMona | hi I just installed the latest stable debian (I think), the kernel version is 2.6.32.5 I thought debian kernel is at 3.x version? |
| 20:38.25 | _DomY-Dom | gnarforce: why not :/ ? |
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| 20:38.29 | gnarface | aidalgol: 10.0.7esr-2 still broken too. unlike in the bug post though the checkbox state is remembered properly for me in the right-click menu. are you using any gtk2 themes? i'm wondering if its possibly related (which would be weird though because its working in other programs using the same theme) |
| 20:38.36 | Devastator | bizhanMona there is, if you use backports |
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| 20:38.49 | _DomY-Dom | gnarforce: don't tell me that it's that you haven't used exim4 and courier to do that |
| 20:39.04 | aidalgol | gnarface: I'm using whatever the gnome3 defaults are. |
| 20:39.13 | gnarface | _DomY-Dom: no no. nothing silly like that. it can be done just fine with exim4 and courier. |
| 20:39.43 | bitfury | so I cloned a VM which had a different hostname but I'm seeing the old hostname under ./ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key.pub and ssh_host_dsa_key.pub |
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| 20:39.48 | bitfury | should I create new keys? |
| 20:39.55 | _DomY-Dom | gnarforce: could you still tell me then please ? |
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| 20:41.47 | gnarface | _DomY-Dom: well that's the problem. i can't just tell you how in a matter of a few words. its not exactly like switching a boolean in the config file. you have to edit the config template. in order to learn how, i ultimately ended up having to buy the exim4 book and read it for a few weeks. |
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| 20:42.36 | gnarface | _DomY-Dom: if you've got the patience though i highly recommend it. i don't have the time at the moment to draft a tutorial or something of the like, and there aren't any good ones that explain the whole thing in one go. |
| 20:42.52 | bizhanMona | Devastator: I downloaded from debian web page, the stable release ??? |
| 20:43.33 | ddfreyne | jelly-home: aptitude fixed it by removing mysql-server-5.5. Reinstalling it fixed it. |
| 20:43.38 | ddfreyne | jelly-home: thanks for your help |
| 20:43.58 | jelly-home | yeah, that happens sometimes |
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| 20:44.37 | gnarface | _DomY-Dom: http://www.uit.co.uk/BK-EOGR4/HomePage its really the only suitable exim4 documentation for the type of customization you're looking for. i'm really sorry, honestly. |
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| 20:45.07 | gnarface | _DomY-Dom: (its not a short read, nor an easy one) |
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| 20:45.45 | Devastator | !debian-backports |
| 20:45.45 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg>, <bdo NEW>. |
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| 20:47.08 | bizhanMona | I install debian from http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst: Small CDs--> and64, where can I get the latest stable debian with newer kernel version? |
| 20:47.30 | Devastator | bizhanMona i just gave your answer, you need to use backports |
| 20:48.01 | _DomY-Dom | gnarforce: Are you sure there's no other way of doing this more simply ? As in only putting one URL in the exim4 config and still putting @different URLs in /etc/email-adresses ? |
| 20:48.01 | bizhanMona | Devastator: Thanks then I need to read about backports, do not know what it is... |
| 20:48.28 | Devastator | !tell bizhanMona about debian-backports |
| 20:49.48 | gnarface | _DomY-Dom: the problem is you have to alter the fundamentals of the delivery logic which assumes single-domain use. you have to learn the syntax well enough that you can tell it to use a directory structure you create to infer which domains/users are available |
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| 20:50.50 | gnarface | _DomY-Dom: conceptually its not hard at all, but you DO have to make several 3-6 line edits in the main config template and if you do it wrong it won't work. the hard part is the synax itself is rather complex, its more like a programming language than a config file. |
| 20:51.10 | gnarface | _DomY-Dom: also fyi (not a big deal) < gnarface not gnarforce |
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| 20:53.02 | gnarface | _DomY-Dom: see, by default it assumes all hostnames deliver to the same user table. you could slap in a bunch of forwards but you wouldn't be able to have the same user in more than one domain, and they'd all have to authenticate against the real user table |
| 20:53.27 | bizhanMona | Devastator: I did read a few lines from the web page, it seems backports could be unstable or they are not as stable as Debian official release, I was under impression Squeeze version of the Debian has 3.x kernel and is stable? |
| 20:53.56 | _DomY-Dom | gnarface: Right thanks. Would you say this 3-6 line edit of the config is easier than what you were suggesting I do at first ? |
| 20:54.15 | gnarface | _DomY-Dom: *several* multi-line edits, not just one. |
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| 20:54.36 | Devastator | bizhanMona squeeze only runs 3.x kernel with backports, but it's stable enough |
| 20:54.38 | _DomY-Dom | Would you say the several 3-6 line edits of the config is easier than what you were suggesting I do at first ? |
| 20:54.45 | gnarface | _DomY-Dom: i don't recall suggesting anything else |
| 20:55.25 | gnarface | _DomY-Dom: there is online exim documentation but its more of a reference. the book gives you key insights that aren't written down *anywhere* |
| 20:55.33 | Devastator | bizhanMona if you need 3.x, use backports, otherwise, keep 2.6.32 |
| 20:56.55 | gnarface | _DomY-Dom: unless you mean "not use exim4" ... which wasn't my suggestion, that's just what you thought i was gonna say. to be fair though... most people i talked to when i originally tried to do this had given up and just used postfix |
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| 20:57.43 | bizhanMona | Devastator: The current image that I have installed is: debian-6.0.5-amd64-netinst.iso, This is squeeze with 2.6.32 kernel. So as you suggested I need to use backports to update it, is there any document any where I can understand the debian releases and different version and ... |
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| 20:58.53 | Devastator | bizhanMona maybe here: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases |
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| 20:59.26 | _DomY-Dom | gnarface: I gave up on postfix. Which road do you suggest me to go down though: editing the config file having configured it for multiple domains or for one ? And if you have time to tell me this, do you not have time to tell me the edit or is it really that tedious ? |
| 21:00.36 | gnarface | _DomY-Dom: its really that tedious. the suggestion about single-domains wasn't a serious one |
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| 21:02.43 | project2501a | you mean to tell me that 80% of the commands in nagios, i would have to define myself |
| 21:02.52 | project2501a | you guys have defined for me? |
| 21:02.58 | project2501a | holy shit. |
| 21:03.13 | project2501a | i am buying a vat of beer for you guys in debconf 13 |
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| 21:04.42 | _DomY-Dom | gnarface: You are really sure there isn't another way ? Are you familiar with postfix ? |
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| 21:06.08 | gnarface | _DomY-Dom: actually now that i'm thinking of it, i actually even had to write a couple extra files to add to the existing ones in /etc/exim4/conf.d too ... and yes i'm really sure there's no other way with just exim4 and courier bare... maybe someone has posted a working config for it on google by now...but i'd assume you already looked. and no i don't know postfix, sorry. it was sheer determination that kept me on this path |
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| 21:08.46 | mallxs | Failed to connect to session bus .. got this error on lost of applications do i have to do something with permissions ? |
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| 21:09.36 | mallxs | i have check gconf is running .. or is this something different ? |
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| 21:10.28 | gnarface | _DomY-Dom: you're gonna probably ultimately want TLS and spam filtering too. if you're gonna make a habit of using exim4 you kinda owe it to yourself to read their official documentation. i agree, it kinda sucks its not free, but... it was developed by a college so, go figure they want you to buy a text book :-/ |
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| 21:12.13 | bier | gnarface: have you seen the postfix tutorial at http://workaround.org/ispmail? |
| 21:12.24 | gnarface | bier: nope |
| 21:12.31 | bier | it's very useful |
| 21:12.37 | gnarface | _DomY-Dom: <bier> gnarface: have you seen the postfix tutorial at http://workaround.org/ispmail? |
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| 21:12.57 | gnarface | bier: its him not me. i already figured out exim4 |
| 21:13.03 | bizhanMona | Devastator: Okay I do understand a little better now, I need to create an IOS image with stable debian with latest kernel version how could i do that now? |
| 21:13.04 | bier | heh, k |
| 21:14.24 | Devastator | bizhanMona no you didn't, if you want the 3.x kernel, follow the instructions of debian backports page |
| 21:14.50 | Devastator | you don't need to create another iso |
| 21:14.50 | mallxs | has jackd or jackeq something to do with the pulseaudio-module-jack ? |
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| 21:15.42 | bizhanMona | Devastator: I am trying to create an ISO image for an embedded system which will not have network connectivity to outside, that is why I need to create another iso? |
| 21:15.53 | mallxs | i installed pulseaudio-module-jack but doesnt see how to use or activate it |
| 21:16.29 | Devastator | bizhanMona you may wanna look at kmuto unofficial images then |
| 21:16.31 | Devastator | !kmuto |
| 21:16.32 | dpkg | Unofficial images for installing Debian Squeeze/6.0 using a later kernel (currently Linux 3.2.4) are available from http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ (images are on the CD mirrors). To supply additional firmware, ask me about <installer firmware>. For a USB install, use the lenny instructions: http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 |
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| 21:19.21 | gnarface | really feels bad for anyone trying to use exim4 to host multiple mail domains for the first time |
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| 21:19.50 | Devastator | i'm curious though, how did you install debian squeeze using netinst if your embedded system doesn't have a internet connection? |
| 21:21.57 | bizhanMona | Devastator: this is on a test system which has network connectivity, the reason I want to use Debian is we need to support a third part vendor, ATI gpu, which has support on Debian and some other distros, from all this I think Debian is best for providing me a minimalistic distro, the others, e.g Redhat are too big... |
| 21:22.40 | Devastator | bizhanMona try the kmuto image then, it should have what you want.. |
| 21:22.59 | gnarface | Devastator: fyi the netinst (~180MB i think) does allow you to complete an install of a bootable system, even without a net connection. it just won't be very interesting. its the businesscard image (like 40MB) that requires a connection just to finish. |
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| 21:24.07 | bizhanMona | Devastator: yes I am downloading, I also need to add some of our own packages to this ISO and bundle it again as ISO again. |
| 21:26.31 | Devastator | gnarface thanks for the info :) |
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| 21:35.52 | dizzylizzy | I think I'm going to install Squeeze on this laptop so I don't have any issues |
| 21:36.22 | sviz | wheeeezeeeezezezezeyyyyyyy |
| 21:36.24 | FilipeMaia | Are there any good tools to stress test hard drives? |
| 21:36.51 | sviz | wget http://playboy.com/* ? |
| 21:36.53 | sviz | ;) |
| 21:37.06 | phogg | FilipeMaia: bonnie++, I believe |
| 21:37.32 | phogg | used for benchmarking, but benchmarks are pretty stressful |
| 21:37.34 | specing | sviz: that will only stress your... ehm you know what |
| 21:37.47 | sviz | lol |
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| 21:38.54 | dizzylizzy | sviz, I know I know, i use wheezy on my desktop |
| 21:39.28 | bizhanMona | Does anyone knows it is possible to update the BIOS from OS? |
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| 21:39.55 | sviz | i needed a new, dedicated NTP source for some of our core switches at work to rule out the "official" timing source or to point to a code issue. stuck it on wheezy and thus far (3 days) its been fine |
| 21:41.08 | specing | bizhanMona: yes |
| 21:41.26 | specing | bizhanMona: it is the only smart way of doing it |
| 21:41.31 | specing | bizhanMona: see flashrom |
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| 21:41.41 | jelly-home | bizhanMona: it depends on the mainboard. Servers often have windows and linux tools to do it |
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| 21:45.51 | bizhanMona | specing, jelly-home, thanks it looks very useful link, so if the mainboard is not supported by flashrom, I am at mercy of the hardware/bios vendor? |
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| 21:46.41 | specing | most if it is supported as they are standard intefaces (LPC) |
| 21:46.59 | specing | the bios file itself is the problem |
| 21:47.21 | specing | and if you are looking at doing it on a laptop then just forget it |
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| 21:54.08 | JoeHazzers | sort of obvious question, but is it possible to use and enable /etc/init.d scripts if using systemd? |
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| 21:57.03 | specing | rings the bell |
| 21:57.13 | specing | Why do we need systemd for, exactly? |
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| 21:57.20 | specing | What* |
| 21:58.19 | JoeHazzers | What do we need debian for, exactly? Point is, my intentions don't matter, nor do my reasons. |
| 21:58.32 | Ragnar | [186862.359169] __ratelimit: 2662 callbacks suppressed |
| 21:58.33 | Ragnar | [186862.359171] dst cache overflow |
| 21:58.35 | Ragnar | what does this mean? |
| 21:58.40 | Ragnar | (dmesg) |
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| 22:00.11 | tremon | Ragnar: have you asked google what it has to say about it? |
| 22:00.37 | Ragnar | tremon: yeah |
| 22:00.44 | Ragnar | what it can come up with is; http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/bug-646063-net-fix-route-cache-rebuilds-help-205173151.html |
| 22:00.48 | Ragnar | this is also the kernel we use. |
| 22:00.53 | agike | Hi, can anyone advise how to get the debian menu working in a 6.0.5 xfce4 install ? Currently I only have the xfce4 menu .. |
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| 22:01.21 | tremon | ooh... generation-nt is blacklisted here. But I found this one: http://blog.jointelecom.com/printk-dst-cache-overflow-solved/ |
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| 22:03.33 | tremon | Ragnar: that's http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=646063 , you could ping the bug or the kernel team about it |
| 22:03.54 | Ragnar | hm, yeah |
| 22:04.04 | Ragnar | that looks legit |
| 22:04.20 | jeep | Ragnar: since what you posted is a "patch" it may be included in a newer kernel |
| 22:04.24 | tremon | it seems to be a problem with nat'ing tables, are you seeing this on a router or a desktop/server? |
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| 22:05.47 | tremon | erm no, not just nat'ing. general connection tracking will exhaust the cache too |
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| 22:09.37 | _DomY-Dom | how do you add multiple users at once on debian or can you not |
| 22:09.39 | _DomY-Dom | ? |
| 22:09.50 | Ragnar | tremon: this is a debian 6.0 server |
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| 22:10.14 | specing | _DomY-Dom: with a loop |
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| 22:10.31 | Ragnar | 2.6.32-5-amd64 is the kernel we've got. |
| 22:13.12 | somiaj | _DomY-Dom: man adduser or useradd (both slightly different tools to add users, and you can do multiple at once) |
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| 22:13.28 | somiaj | _DomY-Dom: you can also just edit the passwd, shadow, group files in /etc/ |
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| 22:15.56 | tremon | Ragnar: I'm afraid there is little we can do. Your best chance of a solution is to contact the bug or kernel team, they will probably ask you to test if the patch really does solve your issue, from the last comment it isn't clear the patch sufficiently solves the reported issue |
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| 22:16.39 | tremon | alternatively, as mentioned in both the bugreport and the link I gave you, you can manually increase the size of the route cache. No guarantees that will not have side-effects though |
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| 22:18.26 | tremon | double alternatively, you can wait here, maybe someone more knowledgeable about either the kernel's networking stack or debian's kernel bug policy will join in |
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| 22:35.26 | _DomY-Dom | so can you add multiple users at once sorry was out and don't have history ? |
| 22:35.50 | Eryn_1983_FL | with a script maybe? |
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| 22:36.35 | somiaj | _DomY-Dom: the default adduser/useradd commands don't do that, but you could script it. |
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| 22:37.06 | somiaj | _DomY-Dom: you can manually edit the passwd, group and shadow passwords (if youw ant to say copy users from one machine to another) -- you just dont' have nice tools to orginze, generate the uid/gid and passwords and the likes |
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| 22:37.31 | _DomY-Dom | somiaj: k, shame |
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| 22:38.15 | somiaj | _DomY-Dom: what is it you are trying to do? Do you need to generate passwords for these users as well? |
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| 22:40.44 | calzifer | is the nvidia GTX 560 ti not supported? because i only get a black screen after reboot |
| 22:41.02 | cardamon | calzifer: Check your Xorg log. |
| 22:41.35 | cardamon | It'll be /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 22:41.57 | cardamon | Look for lines that say (EE). Those are errors. |
| 22:42.37 | calzifer | cardamon: its a fresh install and this is the dmesg https://gist.github.com/a8f42fa2bf336e091524 |
| 22:42.41 | cardamon | Running XFCE 4.8 on Wheezy, need lightdm to turn numlock on by default...keyboard has no physical light. |
| 22:43.40 | cardamon | calzifer: I don't care. Check the log I told you to check. dmesg is garbage if I don't know what to look for. |
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| 22:44.24 | calzifer | cardamon: as i told you, this is a fresh install, there is no X and no Xorg.*.log |
| 22:45.01 | calzifer | are you even reading what i'm writing? |
| 22:45.03 | cardamon | calzifer: "Fresh Install" is meaningless. |
| 22:45.12 | calzifer | minimal install... |
| 22:45.19 | cardamon | That means more. |
| 22:45.22 | cardamon | Good job. |
| 22:46.16 | cardamon | And sorry, I can't really help you much if you can't get to a console. |
| 22:46.22 | cardamon | I'm only good with the common problems. |
| 22:46.43 | calzifer | i'm connected by the ssh, thats the reason, why i could grab a dmesg... |
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| 22:48.03 | cardamon | calzifer: take a look at your graphics card...see if one of the bots has a page on it...it may be that you need some firmware or something. |
| 22:48.41 | cardamon | lspci -nn will give you pciid codes, then the judd bot can spit out what it knows about them. |
| 22:49.14 | calzifer | ok, thank you |
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| 22:57.36 | dizzylizzy | ooookay so the debian installer just complained about unsafe swap when trying to configure an encrypted /home partition, aborted that, and then proceeded with installation without ever prompting for a passphrase |
| 22:57.45 | dizzylizzy | any advice? |
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| 23:00.31 | dizzylizzy | should i abort |
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| 23:09.25 | dizzylizzy | oh well |
| 23:09.41 | dizzylizzy | If this fails then I will attempt to configure /home after installation finishes |
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| 23:10.39 | cardamon | Unsafe swap? |
| 23:10.51 | cardamon | I've never done encryption on that level. |
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| 23:18.37 | gotmynick | if you use some encrypted partition, it's convenient for completion |
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| 23:20.21 | FDFlock | dizzylizzy: No idea about how swap can be encrypted, but I guess you can always use a swap file instead of a swap partition, and just put that file in /home |
| 23:20.43 | FDFlock | about the installer, it might be a bug? |
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| 23:21.19 | dizzylizzy | the thing is, then how would I encrypt the swap :~ |
| 23:21.23 | dizzylizzy | it might very well be a bug |
| 23:21.34 | dizzylizzy | this is for squeeze, and I see a few threads about it though none that seem to be able to help me |
| 23:21.36 | dizzylizzy | s'all okay |
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| 23:29.22 | haylo | damn my debian install failed 32bit onto i3 first time that has ever happened, i am betting it was a disk failure. Was about to try this debirf package |
| 23:29.45 | haylo | looks like a cool way for a noob like me to run my debian system in ram :P |
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| 23:30.45 | haylo | I just cant get iceweasel browser fast enough on this old hard ware without, on the i3 its fine- but i use that mahine for compiling endless stuff for freebsd and gentoo, and even debian kernel making is a pain |
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| 23:31.36 | haylo | any suggestions on using debirf correctly ? seems like it could be trick |
| 23:31.38 | haylo | y |
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