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| 00:04.18 | thothstriangle | hello |
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| 00:12.08 | thothstriangle | hello |
| 00:12.21 | thothstriangle | can anybody help this sqeeze issue??? |
| 00:12.30 | abrotman | just ask |
| 00:12.43 | thothstriangle | let me see brb |
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| 00:15.34 | thothstriangle | http://paste.debian.net/189957/ here it is. |
| 00:15.52 | thothstriangle | seems debian is a buttface |
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| 00:17.47 | abrotman | thothstriangle: apt-get update |
| 00:17.49 | abrotman | try again |
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| 00:19.24 | thothstriangle | what update? |
| 00:20.21 | abrotman | it's a command |
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| 00:28.45 | jrm-rnl | I'm getting some really weird behaviour with aptitude right now. |
| 00:28.56 | sney | !bat |
| 00:28.56 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
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| 00:29.31 | jrm-rnl | There's a circular dependency on some perl packages that prevents them from being upgraded. |
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| 00:33.00 | jrm-rnl | sney: thanks for that, I think I found out the problem by looking at the output of apt-cache policy |
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| 00:36.24 | jrm-rnl | I had a higher priority pin for release l=Debian-Security than I had for release n=squeeze, and the result was this: http://pastebin.com/nbtkvW7U |
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| 00:38.12 | jrm-rnl | the first line got cut off; it was perl |
| 00:38.41 | thothstriangle | hello |
| 00:39.32 | thothstriangle | any idea where the smuxi-server 0.8.0.0 package upgrade is?? |
| 00:40.51 | jrm-rnl | exactly that version, or =>? |
| 00:41.25 | sney | ,versions smuxi-server |
| 00:41.26 | judd | Package: smuxi-server on i386 -- lenny-backports: 0.7.2.2-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 0.7.2.2-1; squeeze-backports: 0.8.9.1-3~bpo60+1; sid: 0.8.10-1; wheezy: 0.8.10-1; experimental: 0.8.10-2 |
| 00:41.28 | jrm-rnl | I see version 0.8.9.1 on squeeze-backports |
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| 01:14.21 | qubits | halp |
| 01:14.23 | qubits | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) |
| 01:14.25 | qubits | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:14.35 | qubits | how to increase or check resolution |
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| 01:16.51 | LtL | qubits: xrandr -q to check |
| 01:17.31 | qubits | ah ok nvm |
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| 01:17.37 | qubits | i am at 1366x768 |
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| 01:19.27 | abrotman | ugh .. nevermind .. asking two networks .. good luck |
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| 01:20.55 | Uuni | hello |
| 01:21.05 | Uuni | i am a windows user looking to confert to debianism |
| 01:21.07 | Uuni | http://i.imgur.com/xY1By.png |
| 01:21.12 | Uuni | this is the step i am at currently |
| 01:21.20 | Uuni | i am using a usb thing |
| 01:21.23 | Uuni | what do i do |
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| 01:21.46 | abrotman | Uuni: you're in teh wrong directory, you want the netinst ISO |
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| 01:22.03 | Uuni | i want an installer though |
| 01:22.23 | Uuni | and netinst says its for cd images |
| 01:23.31 | ahferroin7 | Uuni: it is an installer, and it will work for usb drives as well |
| 01:23.40 | Uuni | awesome |
| 01:24.12 | nsadmin | Uuni, I see what you mean, you were thinking about those things you download and run as a program to install stuff |
| 01:24.22 | abrotman | Uuni: i told you which to use |
| 01:24.30 | abrotman | Uuni: you may also wnat to read the install guide |
| 01:24.48 | Uuni | maybe |
| 01:24.56 | Uuni | i just wanna get debian running first |
| 01:25.04 | sney | the install guide is how you get it running |
| 01:25.12 | abrotman | which is why you might read th einstall guide first? |
| 01:25.24 | sney | for windows you will likely also need this https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/ |
| 01:25.26 | nsadmin | it's really a set of all possible ways to install |
| 01:25.51 | Uuni | sney, do i have to |
| 01:25.53 | Uuni | have that |
| 01:26.33 | sney | Uuni, it is needed for making an installer that boots from a USB drive. |
| 01:26.48 | Uuni | which do i get |
| 01:26.50 | Uuni | the binary or zip |
| 01:27.03 | beardy | For a lot of boxes writing an ISO to a USB stick is enough. |
| 01:27.27 | nsadmin | Uuni, yaknow something, I'm not totally sure you want this... nothing wrong with that or anything, and, I think you might be better served with something you can try out before writing debian to your disks |
| 01:27.31 | sney | yes, just the iso - either CD-1 or netinstall |
| 01:27.37 | sney | or debian-live |
| 01:27.43 | Uuni | uaammmm |
| 01:27.44 | nsadmin | right exactly |
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| 01:28.03 | Uuni | nsadmin how can so many know how to do this yet it is so COMPLICATED |
| 01:28.06 | ahferroin7 | i would suggest ubuntu, but unity sucks |
| 01:28.16 | abrotman | ahferroin7: and this is #debian ? |
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| 01:28.25 | abrotman | Uuni: it's not complicated, it just takes a bit of learning |
| 01:29.04 | ahferroin7 | abrotman: ubuntu is just a variant of debian |
| 01:29.06 | nsadmin | Uuni, when you think about debian, what has you want to know more? |
| 01:29.16 | Uuni | my friend uses it |
| 01:29.25 | Uuni | and i have an urge to be like him |
| 01:29.30 | abrotman | ahferroin7: no, it's not |
| 01:29.30 | nsadmin | ahh :) so is this a way to hang out? |
| 01:29.38 | Uuni | huh? |
| 01:29.43 | Uuni | maybe |
| 01:29.48 | Uuni | i just want to understand him better |
| 01:29.53 | nsadmin | Uuni, I get it |
| 01:29.54 | Uuni | and linux seems interesting |
| 01:29.59 | Uuni | ive only ever used windows |
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| 01:30.08 | abrotman | Uuni: please use less enter key |
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| 01:30.31 | Uuni | yes okay |
| 01:30.32 | ahferroin7 | Uuni: linux is interesting, and potentially a whole lot more secure than windows |
| 01:30.41 | Uuni | I bet it is! |
| 01:31.23 | nsadmin | Uuni, here's what I think so far... I think, that you'd like to see more and play around with it before actually committing to it |
| 01:31.41 | Uuni | if youre going to suggest a virtual box, then i am about to say no! |
| 01:31.54 | abrotman | Uuni: read the install guide, install Debian in a dual boot configuration |
| 01:32.04 | Uuni | okay |
| 01:32.17 | nsadmin | or even less commitment, try getting a live cd (it's bootable) and just boot it up |
| 01:32.39 | beardy | Don't try, do. |
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| 01:32.53 | nsadmin | you can mess around all you want without writing anything to your disk |
| 01:33.06 | abrotman | wussy method |
| 01:33.15 | nsadmin | meanwhile, you can learn what's needed to install, and why it's set up the way it is |
| 01:33.39 | Uuni | I dont have any CDs though |
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| 01:33.52 | abrotman | Uuni: install it dual boot, use the ISO on a USB drive |
| 01:33.57 | abrotman | read the install guide first |
| 01:33.58 | ahferroin7 | live cd can be done from a usb drive as well |
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| 01:34.16 | Uuni | live CD... on a USB...? that makes zero sense! |
| 01:34.36 | nsadmin | abrotman, he wants to see what it's like to do what his friend does |
| 01:34.38 | wilee-nilee | Uuni, OU download the ISO. |
| 01:34.42 | wilee-nilee | you* |
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| 01:34.46 | abrotman | nsadmin: and? his friend uses a liveCD? |
| 01:35.00 | abrotman | i don't see your point |
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| 01:35.20 | Uuni | im reading the installation guide, but i have a question about it. it says i must fully shut down windows and /then/ boot the usb thing. how do you boot something without your computer even being on? |
| 01:35.26 | nsadmin | the thing is, he might try it and hate one or another thing about it |
| 01:35.30 | abrotman | so what? |
| 01:35.37 | abrotman | he also might hate using a liveCD |
| 01:35.53 | abrotman | Uuni: it just wants you to boot off the USB drive |
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| 01:36.13 | Uuni | is this the right instllation guide http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install.txt.en |
| 01:36.17 | abrotman | yes |
| 01:36.38 | Uuni | then what does this mean "If you have any other operating systems on your system that you wish to keep |
| 01:36.40 | Uuni | (dual boot setup), you should make sure that they have been properly shut down |
| 01:36.41 | Uuni | before you boot the installer." |
| 01:36.54 | abrotman | Uuni: Start -> Shut Down |
| 01:37.07 | ahferroin7 | Uuni: it means to make sure not to hit hibernate or suspend |
| 01:37.14 | abrotman | Uuni: whne you boot the system again, boot off the USB drive |
| 01:37.26 | Uuni | how would i do that? |
| 01:37.31 | nsadmin | if you have usb sticks that you can copy a 700 mb image onto (destroying the content!), you can boot into the live env from ther |
| 01:37.42 | abrotman | Uuni: your bios should give you the option to choose a boot device |
| 01:37.51 | Uuni | ah i see |
| 01:38.06 | abrotman | Uuni: is your friend unwilling to help you? or you wanted to try to do this yourself? |
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| 01:38.26 | nsadmin | this is a perfect project to do together |
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| 01:39.23 | Uuni | he is currently asleep |
| 01:39.35 | Uuni | also... I want it to be a surprise |
| 01:39.40 | nsadmin | oh ok |
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| 01:40.23 | Uuni | is this right |
| 01:40.25 | Uuni | http://i.imgur.com/WGRlj.png |
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| 01:40.39 | abrotman | no |
| 01:40.58 | nsadmin | winrar archive? |
| 01:41.00 | Uuni | what do I do?! this is so confusing |
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| 01:41.06 | abrotman | sney pointed you at a program to write the ISO |
| 01:41.12 | Uuni | ah i see |
| 01:41.18 | nsadmin | Uuni, first relax and breathe |
| 01:41.25 | Uuni | someone on another channel told me to download that iso |
| 01:41.31 | abrotman | Uuni: that ISO is fine |
| 01:41.42 | abrotman | Uuni: but you odn't just copy it to the USB drive, it has to be written |
| 01:42.42 | ahferroin7 | which is ironically easier to do from linux |
| 01:43.06 | Uuni | ok now what |
| 01:43.08 | Uuni | http://i.imgur.com/aYdZ1.png |
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| 01:43.43 | nsadmin | for windows you'd have to get a writer program so it gets on the usb correctly... remember, doing this will wipe the usb |
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| 01:44.36 | Uuni | i downloaded the zip of that image writer thing he linked me too. now i have unzipped it and the remains are in the left folder |
| 01:44.51 | nsadmin | ok |
| 01:44.57 | nsadmin | so you got it, good |
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| 01:45.02 | Uuni | how do i combine |
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| 01:45.50 | nsadmin | first, there's nothing on the usb thing you want to keep? |
| 01:46.50 | lmbeta8 | is it possible to get dvdstyler working under Debian 6.0 got deb -multimedia but once installed it does get past language selection screen |
| 01:47.04 | Uuni | i moved everything from the usb that was from school to a folder on my windows |
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| 01:47.15 | Uuni | now there is only ISO |
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| 01:48.15 | nsadmin | ok great. I've never run this program before; abrotman must have and so will know the specifics of it... alternatively, there might be readmes and other documents that came from the zip |
| 01:48.27 | abrotman | why would i have run a windows app ? |
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| 01:48.59 | nsadmin | in order to help support its use (at the very least) |
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| 01:49.09 | abrotman | what makes you think i have a windows OS ? |
| 01:49.25 | abrotman | https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/0.6/0.6/+download/win32diskimager-binary.zip |
| 01:49.31 | abrotman | he should probably get the binary, not the source |
| 01:49.34 | superstraw | he's a mac fan! |
| 01:49.38 | abrotman | just a thought |
| 01:49.42 | superstraw | j/k |
| 01:49.50 | Uuni | why should i |
| 01:49.50 | nsadmin | oh, he got the source of it? |
| 01:49.59 | Uuni | yes i did |
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| 01:50.21 | abrotman | it said so in his screenshot |
| 01:50.41 | nsadmin | Uuni, the source is for building it... you would run it in order to write the iso properly to the usb thing |
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| 01:51.03 | gdea73 | upon boot firestarter reports a missing, expected, "fi" in its script, and I undid my modifications (which consisted solely of commenting out the four lines ending with "exit 2") |
| 01:51.09 | gdea73 | but it still says that. |
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| 01:51.24 | abrotman | gdea73: you'd have to paste teh script for us to look at |
| 01:51.24 | Uuni | so why should i dl the binary instead now |
| 01:51.36 | nsadmin | to use it |
| 01:51.37 | abrotman | Uuni: because you want the exe, not the source code |
| 01:51.44 | gdea73 | How do I pastebin from the terminal again? :/ |
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| 01:52.23 | abrotman | gdea73: pastebinit |
| 01:52.29 | LtL | gdea73: paste what roughly e.g. cat file |pastebinit |
| 01:52.36 | gdea73 | http://pastebin.com/nMnPNpAB |
| 01:53.08 | gdea73 | lines 32-35 were previously commented out, in order to fix the problem where firestarter would say "failed" upon boot. |
| 01:53.18 | Uuni | abrotman, just noticed... the readme txt says its for writing ubuntu imgs |
| 01:53.25 | Uuni | did i do something wrong? |
| 01:53.34 | nsadmin | Uuni, the binary is directly usable to get the image written, the source is not |
| 01:53.41 | ahferroin7 | Uuni: no, it works for any iso |
| 01:53.46 | Uuni | ok |
| 01:53.47 | gdea73 | is there a template firestarter.sh, or would it be replaced automatically? |
| 01:53.49 | Uuni | i downloaded the binary |
| 01:53.58 | Uuni | i am about... to DO IT |
| 01:54.01 | gdea73 | All I really intended was to have the default configuration, and have it *not* fail to start when I booted. |
| 01:54.05 | nsadmin | cool |
| 01:54.11 | abrotman | gdea73: no line number? |
| 01:54.30 | gdea73 | It was during the boot sequence so I couldn't see the error message for long... |
| 01:54.38 | abrotman | you can run it now ? |
| 01:54.48 | gdea73 | I thought it said something like "firestarter: (6) syntax error; expected 'fi' - unexpected end of file" |
| 01:54.56 | gdea73 | I cannot run firestarter now. It tells me that eth0 is not available or something. |
| 01:55.06 | ahferroin7 | gdea73: check /var/log/boot |
| 01:55.07 | gdea73 | I couldn't before the reboot either come to think of it, that's what I'm trying to fix. |
| 01:55.25 | gdea73 | ahferroin7: "Nothing has been logged yet." |
| 01:55.33 | Uuni | it asks for imgs, but i have an iso |
| 01:55.51 | ahferroin7 | Uuni: point it to the iso |
| 01:56.15 | LtL | Uuni: same thing |
| 01:57.05 | gdea73 | abrotman: "Failed to start firewall / Device eth0 is not ready." |
| 01:57.05 | Uuni | it says writing to a physical device can corrupt bla bla bla |
| 01:57.08 | Uuni | do i continue? |
| 01:57.17 | gdea73 | Whereas, network-manager is working (for once :P) and my internet connection is active on eth0. |
| 01:57.22 | abrotman | gdea73: different error now ? |
| 01:57.30 | ahferroin7 | Uuni: yes, just don't unplug it until it is done |
| 01:57.33 | gdea73 | no sorry I was referring to the error given when I opened the firestarter GUI. |
| 01:57.49 | gdea73 | I can't find the message from boot, there was nothing in /var/log/bootl. |
| 01:57.50 | gdea73 | * boot. |
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| 01:57.58 | abrotman | gdea73: so try to run it now ? |
| 01:58.10 | Uuni | it says "error thing found when attempting to unlock the volume" and also "error 5 no access" |
| 01:58.14 | gdea73 | I did, hence the "eth0 is not ready" error :( |
| 01:58.24 | abrotman | gdea73: i meant /etc/init.d/firestarter start |
| 01:58.34 | nsadmin | Uuni are you sure the device is the right onw? |
| 01:58.41 | nsadmin | if so, write |
| 01:58.58 | gdea73 | abrotman: ah, ok. Same error as on boot: Starting the Firestarter firewall.../etc/firestarter/firestarter.sh: 6: Syntax error: end of file unexpected (expecting "fi") |
| 01:58.58 | gdea73 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:59.16 | gdea73 | lol my short term memory replicated it pretty well |
| 01:59.55 | abrotman | if you put a 'set -x' on the second line, get any more verbose ? |
| 02:00.31 | gdea73 | nope :/ |
| 02:00.35 | abrotman | gdea73: i don't see anything obvious |
| 02:00.48 | gdea73 | neither did I... should I reinstall firestarter? |
| 02:00.55 | Uuni | nsadmin, http://i.imgur.com/qrLnx.png |
| 02:01.43 | ahferroin7 | Uuni: try running as administrator |
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| 02:02.58 | Uuni | same error man |
| 02:03.00 | LtL | Uuni: do you have the drive viewed in another program? |
| 02:03.11 | Uuni | i have the folder open |
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| 02:03.23 | nsadmin | ahferroin7, he's got an explorer window open on f: which I assume is the usb |
| 02:03.27 | Uuni | okay its starting |
| 02:03.32 | Uuni | im such a twit |
| 02:03.34 | LtL | Uuni: close it, just use your image ware |
| 02:03.43 | gdea73 | I don't see much else I can do. I will delete firestarter.sh and reinstall the program, and redo my firewall rules ... *sigh* |
| 02:03.45 | gdea73 | I'll be back. |
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| 02:04.05 | Uuni | okay |
| 02:04.12 | Uuni | WRITE SUCCESSFUL, now what? |
| 02:04.30 | nsadmin | Uuni, so the thing you chose to download (the debian image) will install debian to your hd |
| 02:04.38 | nsadmin | you would boot the usb |
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| 02:04.50 | Uuni | should i read anything before i do this? |
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| 02:05.23 | nsadmin | yes, I think you should read a section of the install guide |
| 02:05.28 | nsadmin | hold on I'll find it |
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| 02:07.30 | Uuni | quick question, doesthis boot come with internet |
| 02:07.38 | nsadmin | maybe |
| 02:07.49 | nsadmin | it does want to use the internet to install |
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| 02:08.26 | nsadmin | what is your cpu? core2duo? |
| 02:09.21 | Uuni | i dont know |
| 02:09.31 | Uuni | i willcheck |
| 02:09.44 | Uuni | yes its core2duo |
| 02:09.58 | abrotman | i386 guide |
| 02:10.22 | nsadmin | abrotman thanks |
| 02:10.37 | Uuni | ok I'm on that |
| 02:10.47 | Uuni | but, which section do i read (please dont be all of it) |
| 02:10.49 | abrotman | dont think he downloaded amd64 |
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| 02:11.27 | Uuni | i did i think |
| 02:11.28 | Uuni | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.5/amd64/iso-cd/debian-6.0.5-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 02:11.32 | Uuni | thats the download |
| 02:12.02 | nsadmin | oh, so you did get amd64 |
| 02:12.13 | Uuni | yes sir I did. |
| 02:12.27 | abrotman | ah ok |
| 02:12.37 | nsadmin | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch05.html.en |
| 02:13.08 | Uuni | so do I write this stuff down on a piece of paper? |
| 02:13.13 | Uuni | how will i remember it? |
| 02:14.03 | nsadmin | read it for general info, you'll get what you need as long as you're open to how this is different |
| 02:15.51 | nsadmin | it will show you what the installer will do |
| 02:15.58 | Uuni | OK. IM GOING IN!!! |
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| 02:16.07 | nsadmin | cool :) |
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| 02:22.09 | gdea73 | I'm back. I'll set fire starter aside for now because I'm getting a lot of error messages on startup and shutdown relating to /etc/network/interfaces.. |
| 02:22.31 | gdea73 | what should I do to resolve that? One was something to the effect of not being able to read the file. NetworkManager and my LAN work |
| 02:23.14 | nsadmin | is this going to be a gateway or have other routing function? |
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| 02:34.51 | LtL | gdea73: what is the permission on /etc/network/interfaces, should be 644 |
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| 02:38.10 | gdea73 | nsadmin: no, it's a server but not a DHCP or DNS server. Just file server essentially. |
| 02:39.00 | blackshirt | hello |
| 02:39.28 | LtL | blackshirt: hi |
| 02:39.31 | gdea73 | ah well that may be the problem. There is no /etc/network/interfaces file. How do I create one? |
| 02:40.04 | blackshirt | gdea73, are you sure nothing there that files? |
| 02:40.36 | nsadmin | gdea73, ok... so is it facing the internet directly? |
| 02:40.39 | blackshirt | hu ltl, where do you come from? |
| 02:41.17 | gdea73 | blackshirt: there is no file. |
| 02:41.18 | LtL | blackshirt: this is a support channel friend, and kind of busy :) |
| 02:41.47 | LtL | gdea73: any interface~ file or similiar |
| 02:41.52 | gdea73 | nsadmin: it's connected to the web through a router/gateway which runs DD-WRT if that matters :P |
| 02:42.12 | gdea73 | ltl: ah there is a backup copy, no two backups actually. Should I restore it from. backup? |
| 02:42.18 | blackshirt | thank you ltl |
| 02:42.21 | LtL | similar* |
| 02:42.29 | LtL | blackshirt: iowa usa |
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| 02:43.11 | gdea73 | ah shoot I didn't mean to quit. Anyway... LtL should I restore it from backup? |
| 02:43.14 | LtL | did we lose gdea73? |
| 02:43.36 | LtL | gdea73: check the dates, use the most recent and mv it |
| 02:43.40 | gdea73 | okay |
| 02:44.20 | gdea73 | off topic but, does anyone remember the ls switch for human-readable sizes in ls -l? I'd like to make that an alias, |
| 02:44.35 | LtL | gdea73: ls -lh |
| 02:44.40 | gdea73 | and also both backups have the same date and time, so I will pick one at random |
| 02:45.05 | LtL | gdea73: ls -lht human readable and time ordered |
| 02:47.16 | gdea73 | Also, when I shutdown or reboot it says "stopping portmap daemon" for a full 30 seconds before it continues. |
| 02:48.01 | gdea73 | well okay maybe 20 seconds but it's quite irritating. |
| 02:48.31 | LtL | gdea73: if you don't use nfs, get rid of portmap |
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| 02:48.54 | nsadmin | gdea73, during that 20-30 secs, is the cursor blinking at the end of that line or the beginning of the next? |
| 02:48.56 | LtL | gdea73: and avahi-daemon, its evil |
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| 02:50.36 | gdea73 | nsadmin: shoot I didn't notice. I'll let you know on the next shutdown t you it may have been fixed by the new /etc/network/interfaces file. |
| 02:50.51 | gdea73 | * though, not "t you", darn iPad |
| 02:51.24 | Guest24489 | hello folks :) |
| 02:51.27 | riex | Hello, i am trying to run this php script http://pastebin.com/RyCsfu6d from cron, but i dosen't work. I use this commando here in crontab: */60 * * * * /usr/bin/php /var/www/antg/traffic.php <- |
| 02:51.38 | gdea73 | Also concerning me is the massive list of packages to be auto removed by apt-get which seem to be the entire gnome fdesktop environment... |
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| 02:52.24 | gdea73 | I guess the gnome-desktop-environment package got removed again. I don't know how that keeps happening :P |
| 02:52.26 | nsadmin | gdea73, it's helpful because it tells us whether the previous script or the next script is what's running at the time of the delay |
| 02:52.42 | akSeya | folks, I am migrating a running Gentoo system with Raid0 to a Debian with Raid1 |
| 02:53.09 | riex | Hello, I'm trying to run this php script http://pastebin.com/RyCsfu6d from cron, but i dosen't work. I use this commando here in crontab: */60 * * * * /usr/bin/php /var/www/antg/traffic.php <- please anyone :-p |
| 02:53.11 | abrotman | riex: which crontab ? |
| 02:53.15 | abrotman | riex: please don't repeat |
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| 02:53.23 | riex | crontab in linux dude? |
| 02:53.43 | abrotman | riex: which one ? there are 10 places to put it |
| 02:53.50 | riex | crontab -e |
| 02:53.56 | abrotman | so your user's crontab ? |
| 02:54.01 | riex | yes |
| 02:54.11 | abrotman | is there an error? |
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| 02:54.47 | riex | nope |
| 02:55.06 | riex | it dosen't seem to the php script is being executed |
| 02:55.08 | abrotman | wait, you want it to run every minute ? |
| 02:55.32 | riex | every 60 minute |
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| 02:55.42 | abrotman | then you sohuld just make that a number |
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| 02:55.43 | dvs | ??? |
| 02:55.48 | riex | I already did? |
| 02:55.49 | riex | */60 * * * * /usr/bin/php /var/www/antg/traffic.php <- |
| 02:55.51 | abrotman | 0 * * * * |
| 02:55.54 | abrotman | not */60 |
| 02:55.59 | riex | why 0 * * * * ? |
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| 02:56.18 | abrotman | when would it run? |
| 02:56.23 | abrotman | you're dividing the minute by 60 |
| 02:56.27 | riex | every 60 minute |
| 02:56.29 | riex | yep |
| 02:56.30 | riex | that's right |
| 02:56.35 | abrotman | which counts 0-59 ? |
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| 02:56.51 | abrotman | just pick a minute to run it |
| 02:56.56 | riex | ofc |
| 02:57.04 | akSeya | just need some tips here... i'm going to install debian on another pair of disks, I have done this partitioning schema http://pastebin.com/dwAdTZad in order: boot, swap, system, home. The thing is I can't plug all HDs at once (4 in total). I guess I must do something like this: mdadm --create /dev/md1 --metadata=0.90 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 missing /dev/sdc1 |
| 02:57.09 | riex | But i am not sure about the commando is correct |
| 02:57.15 | akSeya | and run it again for every partition, right?! |
| 02:57.17 | riex | since its not being executed |
| 02:57.20 | abrotman | riex: it' seems reasonable .. |
| 02:57.30 | abrotman | riex: if you run it manually, it works fine ? |
| 02:57.33 | riex | yes |
| 02:57.35 | akSeya | then I copy the data from the old HDs to this new one, and after that plug the other pair |
| 02:57.39 | riex | if i run it manually it orks |
| 02:57.41 | riex | works* |
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| 02:57.52 | AndIrc_9 | omg it broke |
| 02:57.53 | abrotman | riex: try changing the scheduling |
| 02:58.14 | riex | if i go into /var/www/antg and then i use this commando: php traffic.php after i had done perl eth0.pl - eth1.pl and perl lo.pl |
| 02:58.17 | uuni | im in grub rescue mode. what do i do |
| 02:58.18 | gdea73 | My monitor loses video output when I switch to a TTY terminal... |
| 02:58.25 | riex | and then it works |
| 02:58.27 | riex | I'll try |
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| 02:58.45 | abrotman | waves |
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| 02:59.04 | uuni | abrotman any idea |
| 02:59.05 | dvs | o/ |
| 02:59.21 | nsadmin | uuni, did you install? |
| 02:59.24 | abrotman | uuni: i'm heading for sleep, but whomever helps you willl need more details |
| 02:59.26 | uuni | yes |
| 02:59.31 | uuni | ok |
| 02:59.47 | abrotman | uuni: how far does it boot? what happens when it stops? did you install a Desktop? what is your video card? |
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| 03:02.41 | AndIrc_12 | itt says error no such device buncg of numbers |
| 03:03.17 | uuni | and it enters rescue mode |
| 03:03.29 | uuni | nsadmin help |
| 03:03.56 | nsadmin | sec, I have a coupla things on my plate... brb |
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| 03:05.16 | LtL | uuni: did you see errors regarding MBR |
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| 03:06.39 | LtL | he left..right! |
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| 03:07.19 | AndIrc_58 | im here |
| 03:07.39 | LtL | AndIrc_58: what error did you see |
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| 03:07.57 | AndIrc_58 | no such device and bunch of numbers |
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| 03:08.15 | LtL | AndIrc_58: i'll leave this to nsadmin, i'm just curious... new machine? |
| 03:08.25 | AndIrc_58 | new os |
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| 03:09.07 | LtL | AndIrc_58: no cdrom? those windows installers are iffy |
| 03:09.17 | nsadmin | ok I'm back |
| 03:09.54 | nsadmin | AndIrc_58, when you saw the grub menu for the first time, did it have an option to boot windows? |
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| 03:10.57 | LtL | nsadmin: i thin he's at the grub rescue screen |
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| 03:11.35 | nsadmin | could that mean grub didn't completely boot? |
| 03:12.01 | nsadmin | (and wasn't installed properly?) |
| 03:13.11 | LtL | nsadmin: error was, no such device and bunch of numbers. grub> |
| 03:13.30 | GamezR2EZ | LtL: give me the output of ls |
| 03:14.12 | LtL | GamezR2EZ: it's not me, now the guy left |
| 03:14.19 | GamezR2EZ | LtL: nvm |
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| 03:14.39 | GamezR2EZ | LtL: if he gets back on, let me know please |
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| 03:15.28 | LtL | GamezR2EZ: roger, btw the grub rescue screendoesnt have an 'ls' command does it? |
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| 03:15.45 | GamezR2EZ | it will list the partitions on the disk |
| 03:16.02 | LtL | ah, i see, im sure he;ll be back |
| 03:16.50 | gdea73 | ah no! finally fixed all my other errors and now samba isn't working again because of firestarter |
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| 03:18.19 | gdea73 | ah right got it, add NEW before Established and Accepted under the second line below allow res |
| 03:18.33 | gdea73 | * response traffic, in /etc/firestarter/inbound/setup |
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| 03:22.26 | AndIrc___ | i fixed it but how do i get a desktop |
| 03:22.40 | nsadmin | what do you get? |
| 03:22.58 | nsadmin | text login, white text on black background? |
| 03:22.58 | AndIrc___ | i logged into my account on debian |
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| 03:23.04 | AndIrc___ | yes |
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| 03:23.19 | AndIrc___ | is that good |
| 03:23.21 | nsadmin | ok, let's see if you have networking |
| 03:23.22 | LtL | AndIrc___: yay! |
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| 03:23.33 | nsadmin | you may just have the base installed |
| 03:23.52 | nsadmin | when you were at the networking, did it have trouble getting an IP? |
| 03:24.00 | AndIrc___ | no |
| 03:24.10 | AndIrc___ | i dont think i have a network |
| 03:24.11 | nsadmin | ok, try: ping yahoo.com |
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| 03:24.23 | AndIrc___ | ok one moment |
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| 03:28.06 | uuni | could not find host yahoo.com |
| 03:28.13 | uuni | tell me how |
| 03:28.31 | uuni | to get this network thing working nsadmin |
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| 03:28.52 | nsadmin | do you have a second machine you can use to talk here? |
| 03:29.00 | uuni | its this |
| 03:29.13 | uuni | thats not important |
| 03:29.27 | uuni | just tell me how to get the networks |
| 03:29.30 | nsadmin | well I'm asking for a reason |
| 03:29.39 | uuni | why |
| 03:29.42 | uuni | i do |
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| 03:30.09 | uuni | hello |
| 03:30.16 | nsadmin | so if you have a separate machine, it will be quicker and easier to helpo you get your net |
| 03:30.29 | uuni | oh just tell me here |
| 03:30.42 | uuni | whats thr commands |
| 03:30.59 | nsadmin | it's not that simple, we have to test for things |
| 03:31.13 | uuni | i chose to not set up network |
| 03:31.26 | uuni | so i should just boot the installer again right |
| 03:31.30 | nsadmin | ok, so then you have just the base installed |
| 03:31.43 | uuni | i have a network key |
| 03:31.45 | nsadmin | you -could- try that |
| 03:31.54 | nsadmin | key? you mean for wireless? |
| 03:32.05 | uuni | comcast and stuff |
| 03:32.12 | uuni | you know what i mean |
| 03:32.29 | nsadmin | well not quite yet... |
| 03:32.33 | uuni | oh boy |
| 03:32.54 | uuni | can we get to the big stuffs |
| 03:33.07 | nsadmin | once your networking is up |
| 03:33.15 | uuni | what then |
| 03:33.18 | nsadmin | do you have wired or wireless |
| 03:33.21 | uuni | wireless |
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| 03:33.31 | nsadmin | do you also have wired that you could use? |
| 03:33.36 | uuni | nope |
| 03:33.40 | uuni | yes |
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| 03:33.49 | nsadmin | which is it :) |
| 03:33.50 | uuni | but its another comp |
| 03:33.52 | uuni | yes |
| 03:33.55 | uuni | jeeez |
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| 03:34.15 | gdea73 | My monitor loses signal when I switch to a terminal. What to do? |
| 03:34.31 | uuni | i only want linux on my computer that gets wireless |
| 03:34.33 | gdea73 | I'm running the xf86-video-ati drivers, this didn't happen before and I'm not sure what changed. It used to be a really low resolution and now I get no display at all. |
| 03:35.06 | nsadmin | uuni, we need a way to transfer files |
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| 03:35.22 | nsadmin | do you have a second usb? |
| 03:35.27 | uuni | urh |
| 03:35.29 | uuni | urgh |
| 03:35.34 | uuni | maybe |
| 03:35.41 | uuni | judt tell me what id do if i did |
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| 03:35.55 | nsadmin | you don't have to have it, we can format the one you booted from |
| 03:36.06 | uuni | zomg |
| 03:36.14 | uuni | ill just go back to boot |
| 03:36.22 | uuni | and put in network key |
| 03:36.26 | nsadmin | you're impatient :P |
| 03:36.27 | uuni | will that work |
| 03:36.49 | uuni | well its because i can disconnect any second |
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| 03:37.38 | nsadmin | wireless is a bit hard to get going... I need you to run some commands, which will spew stuff out and I'll ask you about the stuff |
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| 03:38.25 | nsadmin | first, lspci -nn | grep -i net |
| 03:38.33 | nsadmin | now many lines do you get? |
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| 03:38.56 | gdea73 | can someone help me get video output on my tty terminals, please? |
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| 03:41.08 | nsadmin | gdea73, not sure what to do... can you look thru dmesg | less |
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| 03:43.34 | Uuni | OK |
| 03:43.40 | Uuni | on anoher computer |
| 03:43.45 | Uuni | what do i do nsadmin |
| 03:43.46 | nsadmin | cool :) |
| 03:43.54 | nsadmin | let's name them |
| 03:44.02 | nsadmin | what do you call the machine you're on? |
| 03:44.18 | Uuni | Uuni |
| 03:44.24 | Uuni | thats wai |
| 03:44.24 | nsadmin | and, what do you call the machine you're trying to install debian? |
| 03:44.25 | Uuni | wait |
| 03:44.28 | Uuni | ewfdjsifd |
| 03:44.33 | Uuni | this is not-debian |
| 03:44.38 | Uuni | and the other is Uuni |
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| 03:44.42 | nsadmin | ij |
| 03:44.44 | nsadmin | great |
| 03:44.46 | Uuni | the one im trying to install debian on is uuni |
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| 03:44.55 | nsadmin | perfect |
| 03:45.15 | nsadmin | on uuni, run ifconfig -a |
| 03:45.31 | nsadmin | you will see paragraphs and short labels on the left |
| 03:45.38 | nsadmin | tell me what labels you see |
| 03:46.06 | Uuni | command not found |
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| 03:46.17 | nsadmin | ok, try /sbin/ifconfig -a |
| 03:46.22 | Uuni | i typed "ifconfig -a" and hit enter |
| 03:46.25 | Uuni | should i have typed run |
| 03:46.40 | LtL | Uuni: /sbin/ifconfig -a |
| 03:46.42 | nsadmin | no, that would have ran it... |
| 03:46.47 | nsadmin | yeah |
| 03:46.50 | Uuni | ok |
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| 03:46.59 | nsadmin | do that :) |
| 03:47.09 | nsadmin | show a list of labels |
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| 03:47.48 | Uuni | lo and eth0s |
| 03:48.23 | nsadmin | ok, so that machine may have a wired ethernet port |
| 03:48.33 | Uuni | there is no wires, it is a laptop |
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| 03:49.17 | Uuni | nsadmin hello |
| 03:49.19 | nsadmin | ok, try this: |
| 03:49.22 | Rusty1 | type: iwconfig, is there a wlan0 ? |
| 03:50.34 | Uuni | iwconfig does NOTHING!!! |
| 03:50.41 | Uuni | command not found! |
| 03:51.26 | LtL | Uuni: ifconfig is not in your path, type /sbin/ifconfig most commands you'll need are in /sbin/ |
| 03:51.26 | Uuni | oh, Rusty1 gave me that advice |
| 03:51.27 | nsadmin | ok, let's see the hardware... run lspci -nn | grep -i net |
| 03:51.40 | Uuni | omfg |
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| 03:51.52 | sney | iwconfig is in wireless-tools which is not part of most tasks |
| 03:52.00 | LtL | Uuni: relax youre in good hands |
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| 03:52.33 | LtL | i misread iwconfig, oops |
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| 03:53.23 | Rusty1 | and type: whoami, you should be root, if not, type: su, enter root password and try iwconfig again |
| 03:54.01 | Uuni | ok nsadmin |
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| 03:54.07 | Uuni | network controller and ethernet controller |
| 03:54.12 | Uuni | both broadcom corporations |
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| 03:54.38 | Rusty1 | should see bcmxx what is xx |
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| 03:55.05 | nsadmin | aha, so you actually do have an ethernet connector, and it seems to have an interface (eth0) |
| 03:55.18 | Uuni | but its a LAPTOP!!! there are no cords!! |
| 03:55.28 | Uuni | just tell me what to do next |
| 03:55.33 | nsadmin | howbout connectors |
| 03:55.33 | Uuni | this is taking forever |
| 03:55.40 | Uuni | i dont know what those are |
| 03:56.02 | nsadmin | with not-debian, you should see a network cable |
| 03:56.07 | Uuni | auto eth0? |
| 03:56.14 | Uuni | yeah i do |
| 03:56.26 | nsadmin | ok, do you have a spare ethernet cable? |
| 03:56.33 | Uuni | note: these computers are rooms apart so everytime you ask me to do something i have to run around |
| 03:57.00 | Uuni | not right now |
| 03:57.05 | Uuni | nsadmin think practical |
| 03:57.15 | Uuni | what can i do without the use of plugs and cords |
| 03:57.25 | Uuni | auto eth0s or some ip thing? |
| 03:58.07 | Rusty1 | Uuni: it is likely you need to hook the laptop to a wired connection and install broadcomm wireless drivers |
| 03:58.24 | Uuni | omfg!! i didnt have to do that for windows though! |
| 03:58.45 | Rusty1 | your not in kansas anymore |
| 03:59.03 | nsadmin | is your name Dorothy?! |
| 03:59.05 | Uuni | urgh uck |
| 03:59.07 | Uuni | no |
| 03:59.11 | LeandroLuiz | lol |
| 03:59.11 | Uuni | its "brett" |
| 03:59.29 | nsadmin | ahh |
| 03:59.37 | LtL | Uuni: Move the laptop to the wired box room |
| 03:59.37 | Uuni | nsadmin: what are my options without an ethernet cable |
| 03:59.48 | Uuni | oh!!! |
| 03:59.49 | Uuni | ok |
| 03:59.59 | nsadmin | see, broadcom sucks |
| 04:00.07 | dvs | heh |
| 04:00.11 | LtL | Uuni: but, you'll only have one running then |
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| 04:00.40 | Uuni | ok |
| 04:00.44 | LtL | Uuni: unless you have a spare cat5 cable and a spare router port |
| 04:00.54 | Uuni | its in the same room now |
| 04:00.58 | Uuni | right next to each other |
| 04:01.09 | nsadmin | one option I can think of now, is try reinstalling with an ethernet cable plugged in |
| 04:01.19 | Uuni | oooh |
| 04:01.24 | nsadmin | then you can install stuff |
| 04:01.24 | Uuni | what do ethernet cables look like |
| 04:01.26 | Rusty1 | its a laptop, bring it over and plug it in |
| 04:01.38 | chronik-rootz | rj45 connectors Uuni |
| 04:01.45 | Uuni | fff |
| 04:01.56 | nsadmin | it's like a big phone connector |
| 04:01.56 | chronik-rootz | like on a phone |
| 04:01.58 | chronik-rootz | but bigger |
| 04:02.07 | LtL | Uuni: it looks like the cable plugged into the other computer with a green light flashing if its on |
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| 04:02.46 | LtL | Uuni: the plug looks like a phone jack just wider slightly. |
| 04:04.01 | Rusty1 | you will lose this connection and have to re-establish it on the laptop, which may not be trivial |
| 04:04.30 | nsadmin | Rusty1, I'd say he should retry the install |
| 04:04.50 | nsadmin | with the ethernet plugged in |
| 04:04.59 | Rusty1 | or you might get lucky, make sure you have a irc client on the lappy |
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| 04:05.21 | Rusty1 | like xchat , pidgin whatevr |
| 04:05.47 | nsadmin | only the base is on the laptop |
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| 04:06.09 | nsadmin | no x either if no base |
| 04:06.15 | nsadmin | errif only base |
| 04:06.29 | LtL | irssi to the rescue |
| 04:06.29 | Gargantua | What's the difference between chromium-browser in the repo and the .deb google distributes? |
| 04:06.42 | nsadmin | no idea |
| 04:06.55 | Gargantua | Like, in terms of versions. |
| 04:07.02 | Gargantua | Is the Squeeze one older? |
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| 04:07.25 | nsadmin | the version is on the filename of the .deb |
| 04:07.38 | Gargantua | just says current_stable |
| 04:08.02 | Artemis3 | smells like chrome |
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| 04:08.20 | Gargantua | lol |
| 04:08.28 | Uuni | ok ve got an thernet cable running from uuni to not-debia |
| 04:08.33 | Uuni | now what commands do i do |
| 04:08.41 | Uuni | nsadmin ping ping ping |
| 04:09.12 | Rusty1 | and type: whoami, you should be root, if not, type: su, enter root password and try iwconfig again |
| 04:09.22 | Rusty1 | oops |
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| 04:09.34 | Uuni | -bash: whoami: command not found |
| 04:09.41 | Artemis3 | id |
| 04:09.43 | Artemis3 | :P |
| 04:09.54 | Uuni | how do i get off this bash thing |
| 04:09.58 | Rusty1 | type: lspci |
| 04:10.00 | nsadmin | to not-debian? ok, take the cable from not-debian and plug it where the other side of the cable was |
| 04:10.23 | Uuni | whaa??? |
| 04:10.29 | Uuni | what are you talking about |
| 04:10.34 | Artemis3 | LOL |
| 04:10.46 | Uuni | ill do a text diagram |
| 04:10.53 | nsadmin | wait a sec :) |
| 04:11.02 | Uuni | UUNI -]==========[- NOT-DEBIAN |
| 04:11.07 | Uuni | that is how it is |
| 04:11.18 | Uuni | that thing in the middle is an ethernet cord |
| 04:11.22 | chronik-rootz | troll? |
| 04:11.33 | Gargantua | whereis whoami |
| 04:11.46 | Uuni | none of these fking commands work |
| 04:12.11 | chronik-rootz | pebcac |
| 04:12.20 | nsadmin | Uuni, so there is only an ethernet cable between uuni and not-debian? |
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| 04:12.33 | Uuni | i will only be taking commands from nsadmin, rusty1, and the other one |
| 04:12.36 | Uuni | yes nsadmin |
| 04:12.44 | Uuni | they are -connected- |
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| 04:13.09 | nsadmin | and no other cables from not-debian to anywhere? |
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| 04:13.28 | Uuni | actually |
| 04:13.36 | Uuni | its not not-debian my computer is connected to |
| 04:13.42 | Uuni | it is the router it gets internet from |
| 04:13.48 | Artemis3 | pfff what is this nonsense |
| 04:13.54 | Uuni | stfu! |
| 04:14.16 | nsadmin | I wonder if my turtle needs walking |
| 04:14.25 | dvs | ha! |
| 04:14.32 | Uuni | nsadmin, this is no time for turtle walking! |
| 04:14.39 | wwkd | hey guys, what are you thoughts on SSDs for development laptops? Do modern SSDs still have problems with longevity? |
| 04:14.41 | Uuni | are you trying to make me irritated? |
| 04:14.49 | nsadmin | Uuni funny you should say that |
| 04:14.56 | LeandroLuiz | lol |
| 04:14.57 | Uuni | my command terminal is getting lonely |
| 04:14.59 | Gargantua | I think you should read a walkthrough. |
| 04:15.03 | nsadmin | so if the cables are like you say, you can try the install again |
| 04:15.07 | Artemis3 | a video tutorial |
| 04:15.15 | Uuni | the *whole* install? |
| 04:15.21 | Uuni | cant i just do that one part? |
| 04:15.22 | Rusty1 | Artemis3: link? |
| 04:15.34 | nsadmin | yes, except this time the usb thing is prepared already |
| 04:15.48 | LtL | Uuni: A whole install can take less than an hour |
| 04:15.53 | Uuni | do i have to plug the usb back in? |
| 04:16.04 | nsadmin | yes, and then boot from it |
| 04:16.09 | Uuni | fiiiiine |
| 04:16.10 | Uuni | brb |
| 04:16.17 | Gargantua | How do you guys get plugins for chromium-browseR? |
| 04:16.25 | nsadmin | meanwhile... comon turtle |
| 04:18.04 | nsadmin | make sure you keep that ethernet cable plugged in, make sure you configure the net |
| 04:18.20 | nsadmin | everything else the same |
| 04:18.37 | nsadmin | Uuni, so now you |
| 04:18.51 | Uuni | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:18.53 | nsadmin | 'have had a taste of what your friend goes thru |
| 04:19.01 | Uuni | w/e |
| 04:19.13 | Uuni | linux users are insane |
| 04:19.35 | Rusty1 | true |
| 04:19.43 | nsadmin | if you choose to keep going, you'll get to know more about what he does |
| 04:19.56 | Uuni | does domain name have to be anything specific? |
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| 04:20.10 | Uuni | i want to make this cool |
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| 04:20.23 | Rusty1 | dont we all |
| 04:20.34 | Uuni | like rundll.grobin.monsy.net |
| 04:20.43 | Uuni | is that possible |
| 04:21.24 | Uuni | hello |
| 04:21.30 | nsadmin | it would be more meaningful if you had that IP |
| 04:21.39 | Uuni | what |
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| 04:21.59 | Uuni | right now the default domain name it wants me to have is hsd1.ga.comcast.net |
| 04:22.03 | Uuni | do i have to keep it that |
| 04:22.12 | Uuni | nsadmin hello |
| 04:22.29 | nsadmin | wait, it succeeded? |
| 04:22.40 | Uuni | what did |
| 04:22.41 | nsadmin | use that domain |
| 04:22.45 | Uuni | fiiiine |
| 04:22.46 | nsadmin | the network config |
| 04:22.50 | LtL | Uuni: you may need to with comcast, did it fill that in by itself? |
| 04:22.57 | Uuni | yes |
| 04:23.11 | LtL | keep it, we can always change it |
| 04:23.16 | neo^ | Uuni, are you using it as server? |
| 04:23.40 | nsadmin | neo^, it's a box to learn about debian on |
| 04:23.41 | Uuni | bah its in the past |
| 04:23.48 | Uuni | ok partitioning time |
| 04:23.49 | LtL | Uuni: atleast it seems to be talking to the network |
| 04:23.52 | Uuni | which do i choose |
| 04:24.01 | neo^ | then doesn't matter what the domain name is |
| 04:24.11 | nsadmin | the same partitions you had before, and format them |
| 04:24.36 | Uuni | gb ata wdc or 4.0 gb staples relay ufg |
| 04:24.44 | Uuni | pick one |
| 04:24.53 | Uuni | ufD* |
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| 04:25.16 | Uuni | bah ill just pick te first one |
| 04:25.24 | Uuni | any objections |
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| 04:25.44 | nsadmin | what's the filesystem type? |
| 04:25.47 | LtL | Uuni: dont destroy another OS if you have one on it |
| 04:25.49 | Uuni | hellooo... i dont wanna fk this up |
| 04:26.03 | Uuni | it says scsi1 |
| 04:26.07 | Uuni | and scsi7 |
| 04:26.12 | Uuni | which do i choooose |
| 04:26.23 | Uuni | i cant figure out the file system |
| 04:26.47 | Uuni | one has 320.1 gb and the other 4.0 gb |
| 04:26.56 | LtL | Uuni: does this have windows on it |
| 04:27.02 | Uuni | yes |
| 04:27.10 | Uuni | i have windows on uuni |
| 04:27.39 | Coweater | Uuni: traditionally id 7 is the host adapter, so 1 will be a disk |
| 04:27.54 | Uuni | FK which do i chooose?? |
| 04:27.58 | Uuni | this is taking forever |
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| 04:28.12 | LtL | Uuni: you need 4gb for a decent install so go big |
| 04:28.30 | Uuni | but ... but... what if its the windows files i have?? |
| 04:28.40 | Uuni | blue pill or red pill?? |
| 04:28.41 | LtL | Uuni: remember you didnt want to read :) |
| 04:28.45 | neo^ | select a partition other than the Windows one |
| 04:28.52 | Uuni | how do i know which is windows |
| 04:29.00 | Uuni | sda or sdb |
| 04:29.05 | nsadmin | do you see ntfs anywhere |
| 04:29.11 | Uuni | omg |
| 04:29.15 | Uuni | here are whats listed |
| 04:29.45 | neo^ | nsadmin, he must be seeing ntfs everywhere. :) |
| 04:29.47 | LtL | you have two hdd's in a laptop! |
| 04:29.58 | Uuni | scsi1 (0,0,0) (sda) - 320.1 GB ATA WDC WD3200BEVT-7 |
| 04:30.00 | Uuni | and |
| 04:30.23 | Uuni | sci7 (0,0,0) (sdb) - 4.0 GB staples relay UFD |
| 04:30.31 | Uuni | which one do i choose?!!! |
| 04:30.40 | nsadmin | neo^, well no, he had a linux base install there because he didn't have wired connection at the time... now he does |
| 04:30.52 | Coweater | the 4gb is your flash drive |
| 04:31.01 | Uuni | :I |
| 04:31.06 | Uuni | wow |
| 04:31.11 | nsadmin | ahh, good point |
| 04:31.13 | Uuni | so i only have one choice? |
| 04:31.23 | nsadmin | right |
| 04:31.27 | Uuni | it says it will erase everything... though |
| 04:31.36 | neo^ | Uuni, select the right partition |
| 04:31.36 | LtL | windows is bound to be on the WD, YEAH IT WILL |
| 04:31.41 | Uuni | what the FK!!! |
| 04:31.46 | nsadmin | you might have to split the partition |
| 04:31.54 | LtL | neo^: it wasnt prepared |
| 04:31.57 | Uuni | how the h do i do that? |
| 04:32.10 | Uuni | ok |
| 04:32.16 | Uuni | im back on partition method thing |
| 04:32.19 | Uuni | which do i pick |
| 04:32.24 | nsadmin | anyway, bedtime |
| 04:32.32 | nsadmin | turtle happy now |
| 04:32.34 | neo^ | how many partitions do you have? |
| 04:32.38 | Uuni | use entire disk, use entire disk and set up lvm, or use bla bla bla encrpypted lvm |
| 04:32.45 | Uuni | im not sure |
| 04:32.50 | neo^ | Uuni, select manual method |
| 04:32.58 | LtL | Uuni: wait |
| 04:32.58 | Uuni | ok now what |
| 04:33.15 | Uuni | i SEE NTFS |
| 04:33.20 | neo^ | and? |
| 04:33.32 | Uuni | stuff |
| 04:33.39 | Uuni | should i pick guided partitioning |
| 04:34.01 | LtL | Uuni: if you want to keep windows the easy way, stop everything and use windows to shrink the ntfs partition, then start the install using un-allocated space you made. |
| 04:34.14 | Uuni | fuck |
| 04:34.18 | Uuni | do i have to |
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| 04:34.35 | GamezR2EZ | Uuni: unless you have another disk,... where else are the files oging to go? |
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| 04:34.58 | Uuni | camt i choose guided partitioning and let it partition something as use that? |
| 04:34.58 | LtL | well... its far less complicated unless the installer will do it which i doubt. |
| 04:35.39 | r3m | ,v conky |
| 04:35.41 | judd | Package: conky on i386 -- lenny: 1.6.0-2+lenny1; squeeze/contrib: 1.8.0-1+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 1.9.0-2~bpo60+1; sid: 1.9.0-2; wheezy: 1.9.0-2 |
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| 04:36.05 | LtL | Uuni: if you continue you are likely to lose windows entirely. |
| 04:36.06 | Uuni | fiiine |
| 04:36.11 | neo^ | Uuni, just screenshot with a camera, upload and link. |
| 04:36.17 | Uuni | no |
| 04:36.57 | neo^ | look, you have select manual method if you want to keep windows. |
| 04:37.22 | Uuni | ok im back on windows |
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| 04:37.35 | LtL | Uuni: neo^ may be right it may be doable |
| 04:37.37 | neo^ | and you also have to have a partition other than the windows one |
| 04:37.38 | akSeya | night folks |
| 04:37.44 | Uuni | OMG WHY DO YOU SAY THIS NOW |
| 04:37.53 | GamezR2EZ | Uuni: they said it before |
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| 04:38.02 | LtL | Uuni: better to do this from windows |
| 04:38.05 | Uuni | no, they said i had to go back to windows and partition |
| 04:38.08 | Uuni | SEE? |
| 04:38.11 | Uuni | ltl just said it |
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| 04:38.25 | neo^ | Uuni, in windows, go to disk management and see if you have a partition other than windows one |
| 04:38.35 | Uuni | okay |
| 04:38.36 | LtL | Uuni: you didnt wanna read the install guide remember, no biggie |
| 04:38.39 | akSeya | quick question, considering sdb as a usb flash drive, will " dd if=debian-6.0.5-i386-DVD-1.iso of=/dev/sdb " work to create a bootable pendrive ? |
| 04:38.49 | Uuni | i READ the install guide |
| 04:38.49 | GamezR2EZ | akSeya: yes |
| 04:38.55 | LtL | Uuni: look goto admin tools, disk management |
| 04:38.58 | akSeya | great :) |
| 04:39.00 | dvs | akSeya: That's what it already is |
| 04:39.13 | GamezR2EZ | dvs: no, it is a bootable cd. |
| 04:39.23 | LtL | Uuni: shrink the 320 gig WD to about half size |
| 04:39.24 | GamezR2EZ | dvs: They call it a "hybrid" iso |
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| 04:39.37 | dmbaturin | How do I properly replace a package in a local mirror with a newer version? |
| 04:39.54 | scientes | dmbaturin, then it wont be a mirror |
| 04:39.55 | LtL | dmbaturin: backport it |
| 04:39.58 | scientes | it will be a repository |
| 04:40.06 | akSeya | i tried to use YUMI to use the as a bootable ISO, but then it remembered me that fat32 does not suport 4.4gb files :( |
| 04:40.09 | dmbaturin | Well, repository. |
| 04:41.07 | neo^ | dmbaturin, replace the package and all its dependencies with the newer version? |
| 04:41.08 | LtL | Uuni: shrink the ntfs partition to a reasonable size, leave the rest un-allocated and save it. |
| 04:41.32 | LtL | Uuni: you'll want atleast 100 GB for debian |
| 04:41.57 | dmbaturin | I'm trying to build an iso with my package included. I rebuilt my package after making changes in it, and now simple-cdd doesn't want to include it because it put it in local tmp/mirror and checksum of new package doesn't match it. |
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| 04:42.06 | LtL | its a nice number but doesnt need to be that big |
| 04:42.38 | figitaki | Is this the place to ask about network forwarding problems on a network of computers running debian? |
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| 04:42.49 | neo^ | dmbaturin, re-generate the metadata of the cache? |
| 04:42.51 | GamezR2EZ | figitaki: sure |
| 04:42.57 | dmbaturin | neo^: How? |
| 04:43.13 | dmbaturin | Could you point me to the docs about it? |
| 04:43.54 | Uuni | so 2975 mb shrink volume to 1487 mb? |
| 04:44.14 | GamezR2EZ | Uuni: sure |
| 04:44.39 | LtL | Uuni: if that is suitable for you...yes |
| 04:44.52 | Uuni | doin it right now |
| 04:44.57 | figitaki | I have a machine conected to my home wifi with an internet card and serving dhcp to a group of other machines using eth0, I would like to "access the outside internet" from the other machines inside the group. I have enabled port forwarding via /proc/sys...ip_forward |
| 04:45.31 | GamezR2EZ | figitaki: "internet card" is this a wireless card? |
| 04:45.36 | figitaki | yes |
| 04:45.36 | LtL | Uuni: question, do you see any un-recognized partitions in that spapin |
| 04:45.43 | Uuni | yes |
| 04:45.58 | LtL | Uuni: what is it labeled |
| 04:46.13 | Uuni | unleabelled |
| 04:46.19 | GamezR2EZ | figitaki: what is the wireless interface name (eth1, wlan0?) |
| 04:46.30 | LtL | Uuni: how big is it |
| 04:46.31 | dmbaturin | figitaki: If you don't have RIR allocated addresses in your LAN, you also need NAT. |
| 04:46.37 | figitaki | GamezR2EZ: wlan0 |
| 04:46.59 | figitaki | dmbaturin: im not sure what you mean |
| 04:47.27 | Themroc | g |
| 04:47.29 | LtL | Uuni: unrecognized or 'empty' |
| 04:47.34 | GamezR2EZ | figitaki: did yo usetup iptabels? |
| 04:47.39 | Uuni | empty |
| 04:47.59 | Uuni | theres 4 of the unlabelled ones |
| 04:48.02 | LtL | Uuni: is this the space you freed |
| 04:48.09 | figitaki | GamezR2EZ: yes i can post them on pastebin if necessary |
| 04:48.11 | LtL | oh fuck |
| 04:48.45 | GamezR2EZ | figitaki: please do. did you setup the MASQUERADE rule? |
| 04:49.14 | figitaki | GamezR2EZ: im not sure |
| 04:49.16 | LtL | Uuni: im wondering if its debian or your windows recovery partition, but that should be labeled |
| 04:49.46 | neo^ | dmbaturin, dpkg-scanpackages |
| 04:49.57 | GamezR2EZ | figitaki: `iptables -t nat POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -l MASQUERADE` |
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| 04:50.03 | GamezR2EZ | figitaki: that should do it... |
| 04:50.40 | neo^ | Uuni, can you tell us how many partitions you see and size of each? |
| 04:50.48 | LtL | Uuni: do you have a factory windows disk with this machine |
| 04:50.56 | neo^ | in the windows disk management utility |
| 04:50.56 | figitaki | GamezR2EZ: POSTROUTING is a bad argument |
| 04:51.11 | GamezR2EZ | figitaki: `iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -l MASQUERADE` |
| 04:51.17 | GamezR2EZ | figitaki: i dropped an arg |
| 04:52.31 | LtL | Uuni: the 'types' of partitions will help regardless the names |
| 04:52.32 | dmbaturin | neo^: Point it to the tmp/mirror? |
| 04:53.11 | neo^ | dmbaturin, yes, read the man page |
| 04:53.26 | LtL | brb |
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| 04:55.50 | uuni | ip cables conflicted |
| 04:55.55 | uuni | computers suck |
| 04:56.06 | uuni | this is insane |
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| 04:56.37 | GamezR2EZ | uuni: why are you bad at computers, and then blame the computers |
| 04:56.50 | uuni | because computers are bad |
| 04:56.55 | uuni | its not pbekac |
| 04:56.57 | uuni | its |
| 04:57.02 | uuni | computer kac |
| 04:57.30 | Andon | Neither of which make any sense ;) |
| 04:57.31 | neo^ | dmbaturin, cd /tmp/mirror && dpkg-scanpackages . | gzip -9c > Packages.gz |
| 04:57.35 | Andon | pebkac |
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| 04:57.46 | figitaki | GamezR2EZ: Thanks, that worked!! Saved me hours of looking though forums. |
| 04:58.10 | LtL | uuni: ip cables conflicted? |
| 04:58.28 | uuni | yes |
| 04:58.31 | uuni | its why my internet died |
| 04:58.32 | LtL | uuni: its not a crossover cable is it |
| 04:58.36 | GamezR2EZ | figitaki: you are welcome, when ipv6 is more common, that issue may go away... you just need to NAT connections from eth0 |
| 04:58.37 | uuni | whatever |
| 04:58.45 | neo^ | uuni, still at it? or gave up? |
| 04:58.51 | uuni | STILL AT IT |
| 04:59.39 | LtL | uuni: dude we did not know you were dual booting |
| 04:59.40 | GamezR2EZ | LtL: technically pc -> router REQUIRES a crossover cable. most home routers hot reconfigure on the fly to support straight through |
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| 05:00.09 | GamezR2EZ | LtL: read that as ALL home routers do that |
| 05:00.10 | LtL | GamezR2EZ: ive never used crossover since the 90's |
| 05:00.13 | black_13 | what is casper |
| 05:00.18 | uuni | no idea what that means holy fuck this disk management things been loading virtual disk service for EVER |
| 05:00.43 | neo^ | can you at least find out which is the windows partition by looking at the disk management utility? whether first/second/... partition? |
| 05:00.46 | LtL | uuni: youre cn the laptop disk management right |
| 05:00.52 | GamezR2EZ | LtL: pc -> switch is straight through; pc -> router is crossover; switch -> router is straight through |
| 05:00.54 | uuni | yes |
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| 05:01.25 | uuni | i cant see my partitions |
| 05:01.28 | uuni | they are loading |
| 05:02.07 | uuni | ok |
| 05:02.22 | LtL | GamezR2EZ: my pc's to router are normal cat5 havent used a crossover that i know of sine win95 or dos |
| 05:02.58 | LtL | uuni: ok, describe what you see |
| 05:03.15 | neo^ | uuni, how many partitions you have and what are their sizes? |
| 05:03.18 | uuni | 4 partitions of which 3 has a darker looking box icon |
| 05:03.25 | uuni | and are unlabelled |
| 05:03.44 | uuni | then os C which is ntfs file system with 283 gb |
| 05:03.56 | uuni | then recovery d but who cares about that |
| 05:04.02 | GamezR2EZ | LtL: as i said, that will work. thats not technically correct though. When did people stop knowing about networking? |
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| 05:04.53 | LtL | GamezR2EZ: all i know is the cable colors are the same at each end, opposite is a crossover, im not saying youre wrong |
| 05:05.21 | uuni | ill tell you the sizes of the unlabelled ones: 1-39mb, 2-169mb, 3-3.37gb, 4-200mb |
| 05:05.27 | LtL | uuni: what version windows] |
| 05:05.34 | uuni | vista |
| 05:06.12 | neo^ | uuni, what's the sequence of partitions? |
| 05:06.13 | LtL | uuni: is one labeled windows C |
| 05:06.39 | uuni | 5th one |
| 05:06.45 | LtL | uuni: is one labeled SYSTEM |
| 05:07.07 | LtL | uuni: is one labeled IMAGEBACKUP |
| 05:07.18 | neo^ | uuni, can you just screen shot it and upload to web? it'll make things very very easier |
| 05:07.18 | uuni | none are labelled system or imagebackup |
| 05:07.18 | GamezR2EZ | LtL: As i said, everyone uses straight through on home devices and it works due to internal mechanisms correcting for that. it is not correct because a router and pc are of the same type. it WORKS, but its not the correct way of handling it. Just spreading the info |
| 05:07.27 | uuni | neo, no web service |
| 05:07.33 | uuni | sorry mATE |
| 05:08.01 | LtL | GamezR2EZ: K, I'm glad i know that :) |
| 05:08.19 | neo^ | you are connected to internet, somehow send the screenshot to us |
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| 05:08.35 | uuni | i am not connected to the internet, neo^ |
| 05:08.37 | LtL | uuni: press printscreen |
| 05:08.43 | uuni | that will do nothing |
| 05:09.05 | GamezR2EZ | uuni: printscreen then paste into MS paint |
| 05:09.09 | LtL | uuni: you dont have two cables, i thought you did |
| 05:09.14 | uuni | willllllllllllll not work |
| 05:09.25 | LtL | what wont uuni |
| 05:09.28 | uuni | this i am sure of |
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| 05:09.38 | peterrooney | GamezR2EZ: if all home devices can autonegotiate, it becomes the correct way of handling it. |
| 05:09.40 | uuni | i cannot access the internet in any shape or form on the computer i am partitioning |
| 05:09.49 | uuni | please do not ask me to |
| 05:09.54 | LtL | uuni: k, i understand |
| 05:10.30 | LtL | uuni: your windows partitions should all be marked NTFS, are they |
| 05:10.37 | neo^ | i guess the sequence is: C: , 4 unlabelled ones , and then recovery partition. right? |
| 05:10.40 | uuni | only 2 out of 6 |
| 05:10.46 | uuni | no |
| 05:10.58 | uuni | four unlaBelled ones, c, and d |
| 05:11.20 | LtL | scary that C is not labeled |
| 05:11.28 | LtL | FRIGGIN VISTA |
| 05:11.29 | uuni | c is labeled |
| 05:11.37 | LtL | ok |
| 05:11.46 | uuni | it says OS (C:) |
| 05:11.52 | LtL | c and d are ntfs? |
| 05:11.54 | black_13 | labedly |
| 05:11.55 | uuni | yes |
| 05:12.06 | neo^ | ok, how much is 4 unlabelled ones in all? and how much is D: ? |
| 05:12.07 | black_13 | what does labelled mean |
| 05:12.08 | LtL | are they next to eachother |
| 05:12.16 | uuni | d is 14 gb |
| 05:12.37 | LtL | uuni: is it marked 'unknown' |
| 05:12.48 | uuni | 3 gb and 400 mb |
| 05:12.58 | uuni | thats the total of the unlabelled ones |
| 05:12.59 | uuni | no |
| 05:13.05 | uuni | they have NO lables |
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| 05:13.24 | LtL | they just have no labels right, no fs type...nothing |
| 05:13.45 | neo^ | ok, can you shrink the C: drive from the left side? |
| 05:13.53 | uuni | yes ltl, nothing |
| 05:14.01 | neo^ | ltl? |
| 05:14.02 | uuni | from, the ... left side? |
| 05:14.26 | uuni | ltl is a person, neo^ |
| 05:14.29 | LtL | uuni: is C on the right side of the screen |
| 05:14.36 | uuni | it is on the left |
| 05:14.43 | uuni | under volume |
| 05:14.58 | neo^ | uuni, yes, shrink C: so as to make some space to its left side, and then we can combine the unlabelled ones with it to install Debian |
| 05:15.11 | uuni | im trying |
| 05:15.18 | uuni | it says access is denied |
| 05:15.59 | LtL | uuni: you are logged in as admin right |
| 05:16.06 | uuni | yes |
| 05:16.10 | Gargantua | Is this windows? |
| 05:16.10 | LtL | hrm |
| 05:16.16 | uuni | yes!!!! |
| 05:16.17 | LtL | vista GamezR2EZ |
| 05:16.23 | Themroc | Hi people! I just wanted to ask for an information I just couldn't find like that with a quick googling: The default debian testing says it comes with Gnome, but is it Gnome shell or still Gnome 2? |
| 05:16.36 | Gargantua | Since when can you shrink partitions on windows? |
| 05:16.47 | uuni | since forever |
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| 05:17.18 | LtL | GamezR2EZ: since quite awhile, xp pro i think |
| 05:17.36 | uuni | ok, giving up for the night |
| 05:17.36 | neo^ | uuni, you can't shrink the C: at all? |
| 05:17.41 | uuni | i cant |
| 05:17.41 | LtL | gargantua: since quite awhile, xp pro i think |
| 05:17.51 | GamezR2EZ | LtL: not xp pro i dont believe |
| 05:18.15 | LtL | GamezR2EZ: pretty sure i have just not with xp home |
| 05:18.19 | uuni | goodnight |
| 05:18.25 | LtL | i could be wrong |
| 05:18.34 | LtL | awe uu |
| 05:19.07 | LtL | such is the frustration of this fun we call hack da box |
| 05:19.26 | Gargantua | Yep, wait until M$ BullshitBoot is enforced. |
| 05:19.49 | LtL | first mistake ppl make especially dual booting is not prepping the hdd |
| 05:20.20 | LtL | Gargantua: oh shit man, gates prolly paid who knows who, ibm for that bullshit |
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| 05:20.34 | Uuni | ZOMG |
| 05:20.34 | Uuni | back |
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| 05:20.38 | Uuni | zomg back |
| 05:20.45 | LtL | wb Uuni |
| 05:21.03 | LtL | Uuni: got a cell |
| 05:21.07 | Uuni | nope |
| 05:21.14 | LtL | camera |
| 05:21.17 | akSeya | folks, just to confirm... to install debian on a soft raid1, during installation, manual partition and create same partition schema on both HD, then go back and choose Configure RAID, choose Raid 1 and create an MD device for each partition.. right? |
| 05:21.17 | Uuni | just this really horrible computer |
| 05:21.19 | Uuni | no |
| 05:21.52 | Uuni | my power button popped out months ago so everything been broken since then |
| 05:22.17 | LtL | Uuni: what type a pc is it, hp or something |
| 05:22.18 | Uuni | i have to punch my computer at times because the speaker socket joggles and causes the speakers to cut to one ear |
| 05:22.21 | Uuni | dell |
| 05:22.28 | Uuni | like right fucking now OMG |
| 05:22.29 | LtL | ugh |
| 05:22.30 | thothstriangle | dell |
| 05:22.36 | thothstriangle | ugggggggggg! |
| 05:22.38 | Uuni | uuni |
| 05:22.42 | Uuni | someone ping me |
| 05:22.53 | thothstriangle | this place is a real dell hole |
| 05:22.54 | dmbaturin | Uhm, my pacage has "Depends: bash (>= 3.1)", the loal repo has 4.1. Build fails with complaint about missing bash >= 3.1. What is wrong? |
| 05:22.58 | LtL | sent |
| 05:23.08 | LtL | no return Uuni |
| 05:23.12 | Uuni | whoa really |
| 05:23.14 | Uuni | wow |
| 05:23.40 | LtL | Uuni: sorry 0.664 secs |
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| 05:23.48 | Uuni | :) |
| 05:24.32 | neo^ | dmbaturin, be sure to install the build-essential package before running dpkg-scanpackages |
| 05:24.32 | LtL | Uuni: look i dont wanna destroy partitions unless we know cwhat they are unless you want to trash windows for good |
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| 05:25.05 | LtL | Uuni: if dell gave you disks...no problems |
| 05:25.15 | Uuni | this shits insane |
| 05:25.20 | Uuni | im right back where i started |
| 05:25.27 | Uuni | i came so close to havin debian |
| 05:25.35 | Uuni | now this partitioning CRAP ruined it all |
| 05:25.46 | LtL | Uuni: first time at this i ASSUME, i feel your pain. sorry for the caps |
| 05:26.02 | Uuni | no this is like my 10th failed attempt |
| 05:26.18 | dmbaturin | neo^: Yep, I have it installed. scan didn't help btw, but package version change did. |
| 05:26.49 | LtL | Uuni: that may explain the ghost partitions, have you EVER got past the partitioning guide in the debian installer? |
| 05:26.55 | Uuni | no |
| 05:27.01 | neo^ | try to shrink the C: so as to free at least approx 20GB |
| 05:27.06 | LtL | then its dell |
| 05:27.15 | Uuni | i once had someone go on teamviewer to install linux for me |
| 05:27.24 | Uuni | but they stopped because i was irritating them |
| 05:27.55 | neo^ | Uuni, do you have windows install media? |
| 05:28.03 | Uuni | i dont know what that is |
| 05:28.11 | LtL | Uuni: right click on windows C, do you see shrink partition |
| 05:28.20 | Uuni | yes |
| 05:28.23 | LtL | highlight the box first |
| 05:28.32 | neo^ | Uuni, windows DVD using which you can install Windows |
| 05:28.42 | Uuni | no i dont |
| 05:28.48 | Uuni | this computer came with vista |
| 05:28.59 | LtL | Uuni: we need the shrink C, its the others that worry me |
| 05:29.55 | LtL | neo^: dell doesnt do that anymore like most of em. the 'disks' are on a partition. |
| 05:30.00 | neo^ | are you ready to delete the D:? |
| 05:30.01 | Uuni | i can access it now |
| 05:30.04 | Uuni | the internet that is |
| 05:30.05 | Uuni | http://i.imgur.com/qmVcL.png |
| 05:31.09 | LtL | Uuni: any idea what drive E is |
| 05:31.18 | Uuni | no |
| 05:31.26 | LtL | sec |
| 05:31.34 | Uuni | there is nothing |
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| 05:32.13 | neo^ | Uuni, what's exactly in the recovery drive D:? |
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| 05:32.19 | Gargantua | Porn, |
| 05:33.10 | LtL | Uuni: you only have 15 GB free on C |
| 05:33.21 | Uuni | wow |
| 05:33.27 | Uuni | ihavent visited D: |
| 05:33.29 | Uuni | http://i.imgur.com/wUKx2.png |
| 05:33.36 | LtL | neo^: thats dell'sc recovery disks |
| 05:34.02 | LtL | that could be deleted actually |
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| 05:34.26 | LtL | E is strange |
| 05:34.30 | Uuni | you want me to delete those |
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| 05:35.37 | neo^ | Uuni, your C: is almost full, shrinking it is not going to help |
| 05:36.10 | Uuni | what do i do then |
| 05:36.17 | LtL | dont do anything yet, drive E seems empty |
| 05:36.37 | Uuni | ok so what |
| 05:36.44 | LtL | neo^ is right, Uuni youre out of space |
| 05:36.46 | thothstriangle | anbody how to get smuxi server 0.8.0.0 packages? |
| 05:37.02 | Uuni | so i CANT get DEBIAN?? |
| 05:37.07 | Uuni | is that what you guys are saying?? |
| 05:37.12 | Uuni | was all this for nothing |
| 05:37.17 | Gargantua | No, you can't, now get outta here. |
| 05:37.32 | Uuni | there has to be a way |
| 05:38.02 | neo^ | Uuni, delete unwanted stuff from C: drive and try to shrink it |
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| 05:38.54 | LtL | neo^: look at E, its empty, the recovery partition can be delated, --done |
| 05:38.54 | Gargantua | Have you tried a livecd? |
| 05:38.56 | GamezR2EZ | Uuni: when debian asks, select "Use entire disk" DONE |
| 05:39.20 | Uuni | that does not sound like a good idea |
| 05:39.35 | neo^ | wait, 14.6 GB is enough for Debian |
| 05:39.39 | GamezR2EZ | Uuni: it will let you run debian |
| 05:39.53 | neo^ | Uuni, are you ready to delete the recovery drive? |
| 05:39.59 | Uuni | yes |
| 05:40.04 | Uuni | oh yeah |
| 05:40.09 | LtL | Uuni: i think GamezR2EZ says it can be done... this is a bit of a black art you know. but its really simple |
| 05:40.19 | neo^ | ok, go ahead, boot the installer |
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| 05:40.35 | Uuni | well, i cant talk to you guys with the installer on |
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| 05:40.40 | LtL | delete recovery and E i say, then see if windows boots |
| 05:40.41 | Uuni | fuck |
| 05:40.55 | neo^ | select manual partitioning |
| 05:40.56 | Uuni | look, im gonna have to do this tomorrow anyways |
| 05:41.05 | Uuni | im not connected witht the ethernet cable now |
| 05:41.14 | LtL | that will give you huge un-allocated space debian will ask for and see |
| 05:41.22 | neo^ | delete the unlabelled paritions and the recovery partition |
| 05:41.41 | LtL | Uuni: you dont need the net for this op |
| 05:41.52 | Uuni | what does that... mean |
| 05:41.55 | GamezR2EZ | im not sure why this is still going on. |
| 05:41.56 | Uuni | oh |
| 05:41.58 | neo^ | make one partition out of the free space, format it as ext4, select mount point / |
| 05:42.05 | GamezR2EZ | Uuni: make room, get some free space, install debian |
| 05:42.09 | LtL | i suggest ext3 |
| 05:42.13 | Uuni | ok i deleted the d drive |
| 05:42.26 | GamezR2EZ | LtL: ext4 is faster and very stable |
| 05:42.28 | neo^ | delete the unlabelled ones too |
| 05:42.49 | LtL | E drive is empty, can we trash it? |
| 05:43.10 | neo^ | LtL, there is no E: drive |
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| 05:43.23 | LtL | GamezR2EZ: the installer will be simpler choosing ext3 |
| 05:43.26 | LtL | imho |
| 05:43.40 | neo^ | if you are trying to install squeeze go for ext4 |
| 05:43.43 | Uuni | this is what i have now |
| 05:43.45 | Uuni | http://i.imgur.com/kZxI8.png |
| 05:44.03 | GamezR2EZ | Uuni: plenty of space |
| 05:44.08 | LtL | neo^: on the left, 39MB E: |
| 05:44.09 | Uuni | so what do i do |
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| 05:44.27 | GamezR2EZ | Uuni: install debian to that partition |
| 05:44.33 | GamezR2EZ | youre good to go |
| 05:44.43 | Uuni | but i still need to set up networks |
| 05:45.04 | Gargantua | Dude, if its such a big deal, dont get the netinst. |
| 05:45.05 | GamezR2EZ | am i missing something? you have to install it first |
| 05:45.10 | LtL | should we leave E? ITS SMALL ANYWAY |
| 05:45.17 | neo^ | Uuni, now boot the installer, and install Debian to the 14.6GB partition |
| 05:45.18 | LtL | damn caps lock |
| 05:45.19 | GamezR2EZ | LtL: leave it alone, he has room now |
| 05:45.29 | LtL | GamezR2EZ: k |
| 05:45.49 | Uuni | i dont have a 14 gb partition |
| 05:45.52 | LtL | can we see if windows boots first before installing, it should |
| 05:45.56 | Uuni | thats just the amount of free space in c: |
| 05:47.09 | neo^ | Uuni, we'll install in place of the recovery partition now |
| 05:47.17 | neo^ | forget C: |
| 05:47.24 | LtL | ok, Uuni delete recovery save and reboot windows, if it comes up, we're close |
| 05:47.32 | neo^ | i mean, C: will be intact |
| 05:47.34 | Uuni | ok |
| 05:47.41 | Gargantua | Your color scheme on Winows is a gradiant from red->green, htf do you live with yourself |
| 05:47.51 | LtL | lol |
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| 05:48.27 | LtL | Gargantua: be gentle :) |
| 05:48.41 | neo^ | Uuni, installing which release? Squeeze? |
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| 05:50.19 | LtL | neo^: yeah think so |
| 05:50.54 | neo^ | Uuni, ? |
| 05:51.12 | LtL | he's rebooting the lappy] |
| 05:51.24 | LtL | i reckon |
| 05:51.32 | GamezR2EZ | is this still going on? its been like 6 hours |
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| 05:52.14 | LtL | nod, this is a one hour job, but short a cable dont help |
| 05:52.35 | LtL | cant be 6!! |
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| 05:53.21 | GamezR2EZ | its been at least 3 |
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| 05:54.56 | LtL | yeah |
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| 05:55.39 | LtL | i recall uuni saying this was his 10 attempt |
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| 05:56.46 | jeep | 10 attempts at what? |
| 05:56.49 | bullgard4 | The DEB program package »net-tools« is installed. Why does '~$ route' return: "bash: route: |
| 05:57.03 | LtL | he really needs to install on a wire, in which case we're incomunicado |
| 05:57.21 | LtL | jeep: installing debian |
| 05:57.26 | bullgard4 | The DEB program package »net-tools« is installed. Why does '~$ route' return: "bash: route: Command not found"? |
| 05:58.53 | Gargantua | bullgard4: whereis route |
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| 05:59.25 | LtL | uuni: quote, no this is like my 10th failed attempt |
| 06:00.24 | LtL | he wont have wifi firmware im sure |
| 06:00.42 | Gargantua | bullgard4: /sbin/route, means you have to be a super-user to run it. |
| 06:01.03 | LtL | unless its wheezy which im sure its not |
| 06:02.58 | LtL | he should be back by now |
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| 06:07.31 | LtL | ive never have a debian release take over an hour, most were dual boot.... sigh |
| 06:08.50 | GamezR2EZ | LtL: i like to install the new OS (Windows or Linux) in a virtualmachine that has raw disk access and then reboot into the newly installed OS |
| 06:08.55 | GamezR2EZ | I dont like down time |
| 06:09.22 | LtL | GamezR2EZ: me neither |
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| 06:09.39 | LtL | i just buy another box |
| 06:09.48 | LtL | i have 4 atm |
| 06:09.49 | GamezR2EZ | how wasteful... |
| 06:10.01 | LtL | which aint nothing really |
| 06:10.02 | GamezR2EZ | LURN2ENVIROMENT |
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| 06:10.21 | LtL | i keep'em busy, they have purpose! |
| 06:10.42 | jeep | back before i became homeless i had like 10 going |
| 06:10.55 | LtL | i aint throwing them away, and i like new stuff, SNS me |
| 06:11.15 | LtL | jeep: thats sucks |
| 06:11.36 | jeep | are any of you versed in udev it kickedmy butt last night |
| 06:11.53 | jeep | im trying to execute a script after a device plugs in |
| 06:12.04 | LtL | jeep: seems they change shit before i learn it. |
| 06:12.24 | GamezR2EZ | jeep: I am, but i need to sleep, its really late |
| 06:12.31 | jeep | LtL: yes ! i found like 10 tutorials and the syntax is all different now it seemed |
| 06:12.42 | GamezR2EZ | jeep: ask here, or shoot me a pm and ill answer you later |
| 06:13.06 | jeep | GamezR2EZ: ill shoot you a link to pastebin in lilo bit |
| 06:13.26 | LtL | jeep: tail -f dmesg | grep whatever; do $something... i dunno, im no coder |
| 06:14.08 | jeep | LtL: thats my next approach if i cant get udev to work |
| 06:14.17 | LtL | this trusty box has had debian on it since sarge or woody i think |
| 06:16.05 | LtL | it freaks me out the problems i see in here, i never havem... knock on wood |
| 06:16.25 | LtL | i been here some 7 years i think, never asked a questiobn |
| 06:17.37 | LtL | ok either uuni didnt reboot or he's installing. |
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| 06:18.02 | bullgard4 | Gargantua: Your analysis is correct. -- Thank you. -- Why would it be less safe to allow invoking the route command without being super user? |
| 06:18.04 | LtL | suspense is killin' me |
| 06:18.21 | Gargantua | It's not unsafe. |
| 06:18.40 | Gargantua | The kernel gives control over the network to the super-user. |
| 06:19.16 | bullgard4 | Gargantua: Thank you. |
| 06:19.27 | Gargantua | Unix is a multi-user environment, doesn't make sense that every user can modify the route table, for example. |
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| 06:19.32 | Gargantua | No problem. |
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| 06:22.58 | LtL | so how are we going to get around UEFI??? |
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| 06:23.47 | metaphysician | LtL: expect our users to manually switch off secure boot? |
| 06:23.47 | LtL | ms has a stranglehold on FOSS |
| 06:23.48 | Gargantua | Law suits. |
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| 06:24.20 | LtL | metaphysician: how easy will that be, just a cmos tweak? |
| 06:24.41 | Gargantua | Someone needs to collect donations and hire better lawyers than ms. |
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| 06:24.53 | LtL | lawsuits against MS, =>years |
| 06:25.03 | metaphysician | LtL: for win 8, users will have the option i BIOS |
| 06:25.16 | metaphysician | s/i/in/ |
| 06:25.17 | Gargantua | But knowing the community, there'll probably be 16 splinter groups within a week. |
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| 06:25.34 | LtL | metaphysician: good to know, next box will be 8... yuk |
| 06:25.49 | Gargantua | metaphysician: and what are the guarantuees win9 will still have an option for that? |
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| 06:26.25 | metaphysician | no guarantees :( M$ is greedy |
| 06:26.26 | jeep | sweet i just got udev to work |
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| 06:26.41 | jeep | i just needed to sleep on it i guess |
| 06:26.43 | LtL | microsoft is greedy and ruthless |
| 06:26.46 | Gargantua | Petition obama with it or something. |
| 06:26.53 | Gargantua | idfk |
| 06:27.02 | LtL | obama aint good for nuttin |
| 06:27.19 | Gargantua | We can stop buying hardware that comes with it. |
| 06:27.31 | LtL | he's great at giving money away |
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| 06:27.43 | metaphysician | promote indie OEMs like System76 |
| 06:27.50 | Coweater | LtL: there's lots of good info on planet.debian.org just search for UEFI |
| 06:28.14 | LtL | cool, thanks Coweater bookmarked. fi |
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| 06:30.29 | LtL | Coweater: that link looked promising |
| 06:31.09 | Themroc | Hi people! I wanted to ask for an information I just couldn't find like that with a quick googling: the debian page says the default wheezy install comes with gnome, but I wanted to know if that was gnome 3 or still Gnome 2? |
| 06:31.38 | LtL | Themroc: gnome3 but you have options |
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| 06:31.57 | LtL | im going xfce4 probably |
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| 06:32.18 | Themroc | Nice, thanks. And what would be these options? |
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| 06:33.01 | LtL | xfce, kde, lxde atleast |
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| 06:33.33 | LtL | xfce4 *may* be default, coulda been a rumour though |
| 06:33.48 | Themroc | Ah, yes. The usual. Thank you mates! |
| 06:33.55 | LtL | np |
| 06:34.20 | Themroc | That xfce for default rumor is for when wheezy will go stable, am i right? |
| 06:34.33 | LtL | right |
| 06:34.36 | Themroc | I'm just getting used to the debian release system |
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| 06:34.39 | Gargantua | ,v mate |
| 06:34.40 | judd | No package named 'mate' was found in i386. |
| 06:34.42 | bitcoin_ | hi |
| 06:34.43 | Gargantua | :( |
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| 06:35.12 | Themroc | ahah |
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| 06:37.04 | Uuni | Hey |
| 06:37.09 | Uuni | Well |
| 06:37.13 | LtL | Uuni: !!! wb |
| 06:37.18 | Uuni | Everything is gonna be alright. |
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| 06:37.24 | LtL | sweet |
| 06:37.46 | LtL | Uuni: so fill us in dude |
| 06:37.56 | Uuni | I don't have debian fully installed yet, but it probably will be tomorrow. |
| 06:38.10 | Uuni | I watched some videos and read some stories. |
| 06:38.15 | LtL | auto-partitioned using un-allocated space yes? |
| 06:38.32 | Uuni | Hah hah hahg gah ough ougfgh |
| 06:38.34 | Uuni | No |
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| 06:38.55 | LtL | how come |
| 06:39.17 | LtL | you didnt trash windows didya |
| 06:39.23 | Uuni | I haven't done that yet, and it's still sort of confusing, but when my headaches subside, I will most likely be able to do it tomorrow. |
| 06:39.31 | Gargantua | http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 06:39.40 | Gargantua | The jigdoo for the netinst appears to be broken. |
| 06:39.49 | LtL | Uuni: there will be plenty of help for you |
| 06:39.56 | Uuni | Ah, cool. |
| 06:40.26 | LtL | got a desktop and sound? |
| 06:40.36 | metaphysician | Uuni: this is neo^, what's the news? |
| 06:40.59 | Uuni | I've decided I want to get the xfce GUI |
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| 06:41.17 | Uuni | I will get that, unless something better catches my eye. |
| 06:41.17 | metaphysician | Uuni: then get the Squeeze xfce CD |
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| 06:42.17 | LtL | Uuni: xfce is nice and light, pretty too |
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| 06:42.51 | metaphysician | Uuni: deleting the recovery partition didn't affect the ability to boot into Windows, right? |
| 06:43.00 | Uuni | no |
| 06:43.27 | Uuni | This is basically what I want my GUI to look like one day: http://snobwall.com/upload/stored/39.png |
| 06:43.50 | LtL | Uuni: you can always get disks from microsoft with the COA key |
| 06:44.01 | Uuni | I guess I could. |
| 06:44.33 | LtL | Uuni: nice, my kinda thing --- that |
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| 06:45.09 | Konomi | when using wheezy does anyone happen to know what it means when a package goes from blah 1.2.3-1 to blah 1.2.3-1+b1? |
| 06:45.21 | Konomi | what is the significance of +b[0-9] |
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| 06:45.38 | LtL | Uuni: you wont wanna use windows anyway and instAll ntfs-3g you can mount your windows partition easily |
| 06:45.42 | Konomi | I presumed beta |
| 06:46.11 | Iridos | do you take guesses? |
| 06:46.37 | Konomi | not really I already am guessing so I was hoping someone knew |
| 06:46.50 | Iridos | what if my guesses are better than yours |
| 06:47.10 | Konomi | doesn't matter unless they're right |
| 06:47.11 | LtL | i'd be guessing too, i'm assuming it's gotta be better |
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| 06:48.11 | Iridos | of course they're right |
| 06:48.14 | Iridos | the whole net splits on the suggestion that it might be otherwise |
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| 06:54.05 | milo64 | hello :> |
| 06:54.14 | milo64 | I am a debian fan. |
| 06:54.34 | milo64 | how can i change time zone and time and date from CLI? |
| 06:54.37 | Uuni | milo64: Do you hate IE? |
| 06:54.46 | milo64 | ... |
| 06:54.58 | milo64 | i'm on debian 6 x64 byobu |
| 06:55.09 | Uuni | Ah, cool. |
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| 06:55.25 | baronobeefdip | Hello I need some help with xdmx |
| 06:56.03 | milo64 | how can i change time zone and time and date from CLI? ? |
| 06:56.12 | Iridos | milo64, dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
| 06:56.15 | milo64 | ok |
| 06:56.23 | milo64 | dpkg lol |
| 06:56.30 | LtL | milo64: tzselect for time zone |
| 06:56.33 | baronobeefdip | I got the xdmx program to connect to the display nodes and the screens went black just like I wanted, I also get a mouse cursor on the screens but I am unable to open anything on the screens because I can't do a right-click to open a terminal in the display nodes |
| 06:56.48 | LtL | or that |
| 06:57.18 | milo64 | bash: dpkg-reconfigure: command not found |
| 06:58.05 | amphorion | milo64: as root... |
| 06:58.11 | milo64 | uh.. oh ok |
| 06:58.13 | milo64 | :> |
| 06:58.34 | LtL | milo64: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure |
| 06:58.45 | Iridos | obviously as root if you want to change the system default... |
| 06:58.50 | LtL | milo64: and man hwclock |
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| 06:59.19 | milo64 | i have |
| 06:59.21 | milo64 | and done |
| 06:59.22 | milo64 | :> |
| 06:59.25 | milo64 | <3 debian |
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| 07:04.26 | milo64 | can i chat offtopic here about debian here? |
| 07:04.36 | metaphysician | milo64: #debian-offtopic |
| 07:04.41 | milo64 | okay |
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| 07:07.28 | milo64 | has there been one that runs debian without desktop environment on a modern laptop? |
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| 07:12.40 | linuxuz3r | my class uses cde to run debian |
| 07:12.52 | linuxuz3r | milo64, |
| 07:13.16 | milo64 | I use Cli (CDE) on a samsung laptop. |
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| 07:13.21 | milo64 | my pc |
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| 07:14.55 | milo64 | is it possible to take a screenshot of my CLI screen with colors if there is and save it as a picture file? |
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| 07:15.23 | linuxuz3r | i dont know |
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| 07:17.32 | metaphysician | milo64: /usr/bin/script ? |
| 07:17.56 | milo64 | uh |
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| 07:18.00 | peterrooney | milo64: if wht you're looking for is a record, there is script - from the manpage, "Script makes a typescript of everything printed on your terminal. It is useful for students who need a hardcopy record of an interactive session as proof of an assignment, as the typescript file can be printed out later with lpr" |
| 07:19.57 | milo64 | in to an image file ".png, .jpg" etc |
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| 07:20.10 | metaphysician | milo64: yup, script is what you want. it captures colors too, but stores it into some text-based format |
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| 07:21.07 | milo64 | ok, how can i convert that? |
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| 07:23.47 | Konomi | answer to my question was: http://littletux.homelinux.org/mediawiki/index.php/Bin_NMU |
| 07:23.51 | Konomi | just in case anyone else was wondering |
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| 07:26.39 | Iridos | and the easiest way to take a "screenshot" of a real console window would be to take a digital camera... |
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| 07:29.52 | milo64 | Iridos: lol |
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| 07:30.03 | milo64 | Iridos: sure i will join again... :P |
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| 07:30.33 | Viperisthebest | Can someone help me mount this windows folder onto my raspberry pi, I've tried but its not working |
| 07:30.34 | metaphysician | or write program to convert console_codes(4) to some image format using image manipulation libraries |
| 07:31.13 | Viperisthebest | Here's how I was trying to mount it http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-mount-cifs-windows-share/ |
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| 07:32.28 | metaphysician | milo64: may be libpng(3) ? |
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| 07:34.04 | milo64 | Hurr.... Short life laptop battery >.< |
| 07:34.18 | milo64 | my comp didn't shutdown properly. |
| 07:34.29 | milo64 | and fsck says it's clean |
| 07:35.17 | milo64 | anyway, going now |
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| 07:41.39 | Gargantua | So I've got a wheezy netinst right now going on in virtualbox. |
| 07:42.05 | Gargantua | I want it to use /etc of the host, or at least just copy it. |
| 07:42.15 | Gargantua | Probably the second option, makes more sense. |
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| 07:42.19 | Gargantua | Any ideas? |
| 07:43.24 | Gargantua | Actually, nvm. |
| 07:44.58 | ectospasm | !ask |
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| 07:44.58 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 07:47.23 | ectospasm | I am having a problem with my laptop going to sleep/suspend. I'm running sid. When I close the lid, it sometimes does not go to sleep. I have to power cycle the laptop for it to suspend/sleep again. The only way I've figured out how to trigger this behavior is to run it on battery until the battery level is at roughly 10% (and the power LED on the case goes from green to amber) |
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| 07:49.16 | ectospasm | ...it's a Lenovo X120e... this also occurred on wheezy. squeeze performance was abysmal on this device. |
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| 07:52.16 | Gargantua | Viperisthebest: what errors are you getting? |
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| 07:52.29 | Viperisthebest | not exactly errors |
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| 07:52.55 | Viperisthebest | I just don't know what the doman would be for me |
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| 07:52.58 | Viperisthebest | domain |
| 07:53.10 | Viperisthebest | would that be my computer name |
| 07:53.51 | ectospasm | it will be your Windows workgroup, or if you have a PDC, your domain name. |
| 07:53.53 | Gargantua | cat /etc/hosts |
| 07:55.10 | Viperisthebest | and I'm guessing the server-name would be my ip and the share-name would be the name of the folder im sharing |
| 07:55.30 | ectospasm | server name would be the netBIOS name, iirc |
| 07:55.55 | ectospasm | share name would be the... share name... |
| 07:56.43 | Viperisthebest | can the share name have uppercase, lowercase and spaces |
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| 07:57.42 | CQ | Viperisthebest: always avoid spaces, just in case... use _ instead. |
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| 08:01.39 | Viperisthebest | I need a better example of this http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-mount-cifs-windows-share/ |
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| 08:03.47 | CQ | Viperisthebest: are you trying to mount or share something? |
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| 08:04.29 | Viperisthebest | I'm trying to view a folder in wheezy that I shared in windows |
| 08:04.53 | CQ | can you see the folder with dolphin or something like that? |
| 08:05.36 | Viperisthebest | I'm using raspbian wheezy on the raspberry pi there is no dolphin or something like it |
| 08:05.56 | gnarface | !based on debian |
| 08:05.56 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 08:06.01 | ectospasm | try #raspbian |
| 08:06.16 | CQ | look at the smbtree and smbclient manpages |
| 08:07.22 | Gargantua | Viperisthebest: you can apt-get it. |
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| 08:08.13 | pinkus | is there a sid channel? |
| 08:08.38 | CQ | pinkus: read the channel topic... : ) |
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| 08:11.05 | jeep | gnarface: that image is actually pretty neat wonder ho wmany hours it took to make |
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| 08:11.41 | JohnWittle | So I run a shell service, running debian. Most users on signup give me their username and I 'adduser' their account and give them a random password. This user gave me the public key he'd like to use. Are there any tools in debian for automatically setting up the public key on user creation, or do I have to manually go into his .ssh folder after making his account with a junk password? |
| 08:12.03 | gnarface | jeep: raspbian you mean? i'm sure its awesome. |
| 08:12.26 | jeep | gnarface: neah the one dpkg posted |
| 08:12.51 | JohnWittle | Anyone? |
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| 08:13.15 | JohnWittle | I'd like an automated solution for in the future; I guess I could just write one myself, but this seems like the kind of thing adduser might already have |
| 08:13.20 | JohnWittle | I read the manpage, but... |
| 08:13.36 | JohnWittle | like, what do people do who have keyboard authentication turned off in their sshd config? How do they add new users? |
| 08:13.44 | gnarface | jeep: aah. never seen this before |
| 08:14.07 | jeep | JohnWittle: sorry i never did it |
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| 08:14.33 | guest49026 | hii |
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| 08:15.27 | Gargantua | JohnWittle: cereal might be interesting to you, from a quick apt-cache search. |
| 08:17.01 | JohnWittle | Gargantua: a brief look at the manpage tells me it can't do what I'm asking about |
| 08:17.25 | JohnWittle | also since all of my machines are virtualized, I don't think... I mean, i dunno. |
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| 08:19.24 | ectospasm | JohnWittle: just take the public key, and add it to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 08:19.48 | SiDz | just run "adduser username ; su -c "ssh-keygen" username" |
| 08:19.58 | ectospasm | e.g. "cat id_rsa.pub >> ~$user/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 08:20.22 | Gargantua | Yeah, never mind, JohnWittle. |
| 08:20.22 | ectospasm | SiDz: the user already has their own private/public key pair, so they want to use that to connect to the shell service. |
| 08:20.30 | SiDz | kk |
| 08:20.33 | SiDz | so |
| 08:20.52 | JohnWittle | right i just |
| 08:21.06 | JohnWittle | i dunno, what should i use for their password? they don't even want a password! |
| 08:21.26 | SiDz | just run "adduser username ; su -c "ssh-keygen ; cat whatever-file-have-the-key > ~/.ssh/authorized_keys" username" |
| 08:21.27 | ectospasm | JohnWittle: so just give them a long, random password, and not record it |
| 08:21.43 | JohnWittle | adminning was so much easier when i just typed 'adduser blah' and then waited a second and then typed 'changeme' twice and then i was done |
| 08:21.54 | SiDz | you could make a bash script and just enter username and key i guess |
| 08:21.57 | ectospasm | JohnWittle: this doesn't have to be that difficult |
| 08:22.02 | JohnWittle | now i gotta do all this fancy stuff, gotta mkdir .ssh, gotta touch authorized_keys |
| 08:22.06 | SiDz | >> and not > |
| 08:22.11 | JohnWittle | gotta pipe some stuff! |
| 08:22.46 | ectospasm | JohnWittle: there's no reason you can't add a part on the form where you accept a public key, and have the script do it all for you... |
| 08:22.58 | ectospasm | ...doing it manually seems like an extreme waste of time |
| 08:23.09 | SiDz | just run "adduser username ; su -c "ssh-keygen ; echo whatever-file-have-the-key >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys" username" |
| 08:23.10 | ectospasm | unless you want to personally vet each user |
| 08:23.25 | ectospasm | SiDz: why ssh-keygen, I don't understand that part of your suggestion |
| 08:23.46 | SiDz | it create the authorized_keys |
| 08:23.52 | SiDz | and ida_rsa |
| 08:24.05 | SiDz | *files |
| 08:24.20 | jeep | he is setting it up so people can provide keys already made |
| 08:24.22 | ectospasm | SiDz: ...but the user requesting the account has already done that on their own system, and they've provided JohnWittle with their id_rsa.pub |
| 08:24.38 | SiDz | kk i see |
| 08:24.40 | SiDz | my bad;p |
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| 08:26.19 | CQ | JohnWittle: invest a little time, write a little script... :) |
| 08:26.41 | Gargantua | Yeah man, this seems like a great little project to learn bash in. |
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| 08:28.54 | ompaul | JohnWittle: after add user copy the file to the box then put it in .ssh/ it should just work if once it has worked (permissions are the only point of failure - if the file has not been corrupted ... md5sum it and send that back) then put an x in front of password on box yay no passwords |
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| 08:31.48 | SiDz | or you can modify the /usr/sbin/adduser perl script |
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| 08:34.42 | Gargantua | cp it and edit, though! |
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| 08:35.28 | JohnWittle | i was mostly kidding when i was talking about how much trouble it is |
| 08:35.36 | JohnWittle | i practically wrote the bash script in my complaint |
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| 08:44.27 | iandalton | I have two partitions, sda6 and sdb6, with the same drive label. When I try to mount sdb6, it says *sda6* is already mounted! How can I mount both? http://pastebin.com/guMBuLe5 |
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| 08:45.57 | CQ | iandalton: try mounting by /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxx ? |
| 08:46.34 | iandalton | that's just a symlink to /dev/sdb6, and I get the same error. |
| 08:47.14 | iandalton | Oh I know what it is, it's fstab |
| 08:47.24 | iandalton | I have it set to mount the drive with label 'home' at /home |
| 08:47.50 | iandalton | sda6 and sdb6 have that label |
| 08:49.02 | dgeary2 | iandalton, i take it that one of the disks was cloned from the other ? |
| 08:49.05 | iandalton | Yes |
| 08:49.38 | dgeary2 | does /etc/fstab reference labels or uuids? |
| 08:49.39 | iandalton | Solution: change fstab's /dev/disk/by-label/home to /dev/sda6? Assuming no unusual circumstances, the internal drive will be sda, right? |
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| 08:50.07 | iandalton | labels, so if I switch drives it still works |
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| 08:51.00 | aeonhax | Hey guys. I'm using XFCE, the volume control buttons aren't working, please help |
| 08:51.09 | iandalton | I don't know how drive letters (sda, sdb, etc.) are assigned, but I assume the internal drive will usually be called sda |
| 08:51.19 | aeonhax | I've installed xfce4-volumed, pavucontrol, but still |
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| 08:51.30 | iandalton | do I assume too much? |
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| 08:52.00 | dgeary2 | iandalton, it's a nice rule of thumb but not always accurate ... |
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| 08:52.30 | iandalton | dgeary2, any idea when it's not true? |
| 08:52.38 | CQ | iandalton: switch to uuids, that's the only safe thing... |
| 08:53.02 | iandalton | CQ, read above for why that won't work (hint: switching from one drive to its clone) |
| 08:53.06 | dgeary2 | CQ, his disks are clones, so the uuids are no longer unique |
| 08:53.21 | iandalton | no, the clones have different UUIDs |
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| 08:54.27 | dgeary2 | which disk is mounted on /home? |
| 08:54.32 | iandalton | sda6 |
| 08:54.49 | iandalton | sdb6 also has the label 'home'; I'd like to mount it at /media/home |
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| 08:55.08 | aeonhax | Help me guys, please :) |
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| 08:55.40 | iandalton | aeonhax: when you run xev, does pressing the volume buttons do anything? |
| 08:55.49 | CQ | iandalton: but will one drive always be the home drive and the clone is a backup, or how are you using it? |
| 08:55.50 | aeonhax | yes |
| 08:55.53 | aeonhax | They show up |
| 08:56.00 | aeonhax | XF86 blah |
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| 08:57.08 | iandalton | CQ, I backup the internal partitions (root and home) to their twins on the external drive. If the internal drive ever fails, I swap drives and still have a usable system. |
| 08:57.14 | aeonhax | iandalton. the thing is that when I run alsamixer, there's only one control and the card and the chis are set to "Pulseaudio" |
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| 08:58.21 | aeonhax | hmm, the mute button works, it shows the notification |
| 08:58.42 | CQ | so why wouldn't the by-uuid work? You'd have to change fstab when you first want to use the cloned disk (via live cd or something) but that way you're safe and always guaranteed to mount teh right partitions... |
| 08:58.47 | iandalton | aeonhax: can you not control the volume with alsamixer? |
| 08:58.51 | CQ | how do you clone the drives? |
| 08:59.13 | aeonhax | iandalton, unless I switch to a different card |
| 08:59.16 | iandalton | CQ: because then I have to do that extra step. I'm trying to avoid that. |
| 08:59.27 | aeonhax | This laptop has 2. HMDI and SD |
| 08:59.39 | iandalton | CQ: rsync for the partitions, and dd for the MBR. |
| 09:00.09 | aeonhax | Hmm |
| 09:01.20 | dgeary2 | iandalton, what about boot loader code usually stored in the post-mbr gap? |
| 09:01.25 | iandalton | CQ: how unsafe is mounting by letter instead of UUID or label? Under what circumstances do drive letters change? |
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| 09:01.56 | CQ | I have a hotplug setup, depending on where I plug in a drive it gets different letters |
| 09:01.57 | iandalton | dgeary2: What kind of stuff is stored there? I am still figuring this system out and didn't know about that. |
| 09:02.24 | iandalton | CQ: as in, different physical ports on the computer result in it being called different things? |
| 09:02.27 | CQ | iandalton: can you just relabel teh partitions (with parted?) after you run the clone |
| 09:02.45 | iandalton | Well I don't have to worry about that, since the internal drive will always use the same (the only) physical port. |
| 09:03.08 | CQ | yes, since the controller detects them in the order in which they appear on teh ports |
| 09:03.08 | iandalton | relabel from what to what, and why? |
| 09:03.28 | CQ | to avoid your fstab issue... relabel to home_clone for example |
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| 09:03.38 | iandalton | Oh |
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| 09:04.08 | iandalton | have my backup script start by relabeling, then mount it, then unmount, then unrelable? |
| 09:04.24 | iandalton | (with the actual backup coming after the mount of course) |
| 09:05.14 | iandalton | That sounds like the next-best solution after using drive letters |
| 09:05.29 | dgeary2 | iandalton, i think the solution you are looking for is RAID 1. see, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID |
| 09:06.02 | CQ | dgeary2: I was thinking that but scrapped the idea when he said it was an external drive... not sure I'd want internal and external drives in an array |
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| 09:06.24 | iandalton | dgeary2: my backup drive will not be mounted most of the time. Will RAID support intermittent syncs? |
| 09:06.32 | CQ | but with two internal drives that's what I'd do |
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| 09:06.57 | iandalton | BTW, I'm basically following this: http://www.jwz.org/blog/2007/09/psa-backups/ |
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| 09:07.19 | iandalton | Except since he uses a Mac, it seems he doesn't have to worry about the MBR. |
| 09:07.36 | dgeary2 | hm, i wonder what the repercussions of running a raid array in degraded mode most of the time would be ... i would expect the drive to sync when next plugged in though ... |
| 09:07.50 | iandalton | Speaking of, dgeary2, what kind of stuff lives in the post-mbr gap? |
| 09:08.07 | dgeary2 | iandalton, do you use grub as your boot loader? |
| 09:08.11 | iandalton | Yes |
| 09:08.25 | dgeary2 | it does |
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| 09:09.28 | iandalton | All of GRUB lives there? So I need to change my dd command to cover it? |
| 09:09.34 | iandalton | How big is it? |
| 09:10.10 | dgeary2 | the code to bootstrap itself is too big to fit in the mbr so it jumps to a pre-defined location (calculated on installation) which then loads from your /boot |
| 09:10.32 | dgeary2 | how big? i have no idea, depends on which modules were required to be pre-loaded |
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| 09:11.03 | iandalton | Ah, so it isn't a set size I can just hardcode |
| 09:11.05 | dgeary2 | to be safe i'd do from the start of the disk until the start of the first partition |
| 09:11.35 | iandalton | Do you know how I could calculate that and feed it to dd? |
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| 09:11.47 | iandalton | Googling now, but nothing yet |
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| 09:12.13 | dgeary2 | not off the top of my head but fdisk or gnu parted may help ... |
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| 09:16.41 | zeeflo | I need suggestions.. I would like to know how i can make remote computers see my LAN |
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| 09:18.45 | bool | i am trying to limit the translations downloaded by apt-get, but what are they actually used for? are they only used for descriptions when using eg. aptitude serach? |
| 09:18.48 | julianoliver | zeeflo: VPN into the LAN, forward ports on the router (like SSH).. |
| 09:18.57 | ectospasm | zeeflo: need more input, what program(s) do you want remote computers to "see" your LAN? Typically it's not a good idea to allow just anyone to peruse your entire local network... |
| 09:19.18 | ectospasm | zeeflo: but VPN/SSH is definitely a good start. |
| 09:19.21 | zeeflo | i want the remote computers to see my debian machine thats running serviio |
| 09:19.36 | julianoliver | zeeflo: what is serviio? |
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| 09:19.44 | ectospasm | zeeflo: probably port forwarding at your border router |
| 09:19.48 | zeeflo | something like mediatomb |
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| 09:19.59 | julianoliver | right. then yes, port forwarding is the way to go |
| 09:20.06 | zeeflo | ectospasm, forward my port to what? |
| 09:20.22 | ectospasm | zeeflo: whatever port serviio is using... |
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| 09:20.30 | zeeflo | ahh yea yea ok.. |
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| 09:21.11 | zeeflo | so then i forward the application port.. how would that make external computers see it as a LAN computer? |
| 09:21.21 | zeeflo | (DLNA) |
| 09:21.50 | ectospasm | zeeflo: that probably will be best suited to a VPN |
| 09:21.52 | zeeflo | the remote hosts search the LAN for DLNA applications.. Just by forwarding the port doesnt make it visible to the remote hosts.. |
| 09:22.03 | ectospasm | ...or, set up a static SSH tunnel |
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| 09:22.28 | zeeflo | ectospasm, can I PM you? |
| 09:22.41 | blackshirt | what is dlna? |
| 09:22.42 | zeeflo | (its not really debian related) |
| 09:23.31 | ectospasm | um |
| 09:23.31 | zeeflo | dlna is a protocol to serve media |
| 09:23.31 | ectospasm | is DNLA that Sony thingy? |
| 09:23.31 | zeeflo | yes |
| 09:23.37 | zeeflo | invented by sony back in the day yes, correct |
| 09:23.42 | ectospasm | hmmm, I don't know anything about it |
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| 09:23.49 | zeeflo | dont worry about that |
| 09:23.50 | ectospasm | ...other than what I just found googling |
| 09:24.14 | zeeflo | i worry about the tunnel and the vpn, and would like to talk with you about it¨ |
| 09:24.21 | blackshirt | was it opensource? |
| 09:24.51 | zeeflo | i suppose its an open source protocol..? |
| 09:25.07 | iandalton | dgeary2: fdisk reports that partition 1 starts at sector 2048. According to my understanding of the dd manual, 'dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=2048b' should do the trick. Since dd is dangerous, I'd appreciate some peer-review before running that command. Does it look right to you? |
| 09:25.08 | resistivecorpse | test |
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| 09:28.03 | blackshirt | what the test ? |
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| 09:35.29 | dgeary2 | iandalton, you could output to a file and inspect the file to verify |
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| 09:37.09 | resistivecorpse | blackshirt, was a test to see if i could post or not |
| 09:37.15 | resistivecorpse | seems i can in here still :) |
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| 09:37.56 | blackshirt | are you have been banned? |
| 09:38.16 | dgeary2 | note that the first partition (nearest the start of the disk) is not necessarily the first partition listed in the mbr |
| 09:38.33 | iandalton | dgeary2: isn't it just gonna look like indecipherable (to me) binary data? |
| 09:39.56 | resistivecorpse | blackshirt, no, services are down, so alot of rooms i cant post in since they require you to be identified. was just looking for a linux based room i could still talk in |
| 09:40.57 | zeeflo | does anyone here have knowledge with UPNP over VPN? |
| 09:41.32 | blackshirt | resistuvecorpse, greats |
| 09:41.55 | Gargantua | I've got a wheezy netinstall going on in virtualbox, do you think I can freeze the machine? |
| 09:42.07 | julianoliver | zeeflo: i don't see why you need it. if you're all on the same VPN then it won't matter, unless ports are expressly blocked. |
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| 09:42.46 | blackshirt | gargantua, i don't think so |
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| 09:44.08 | zeeflo | julianoliver were not on the same VPN.. |
| 09:44.14 | zeeflo | there is no vpn yet.. |
| 09:44.20 | dgeary2 | iandalton, i'm reasonably sure there will be ascii text of some sort in there somewhere ... |
| 09:44.34 | zeeflo | im hoping to figure out the best way to connect to my Upnp via vpn |
| 09:44.39 | iandalton | wait, count=2048b is wrong; it should be count=2048c |
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