| 00:01.24 | nsadmin | fender0107401, you actually don' have to wait, you can get wheezy now if you want |
| 00:02.12 | Zee | nsadmin, question.. when its released as stable, would I need to do a kernel upgrade? |
| 00:02.31 | Zee | or would it just continue as if nothing happened..? |
| 00:02.53 | nsadmin | Zee, from what, squeeze? |
| 00:03.06 | nsadmin | or prerelease wheezy? |
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| 00:03.18 | Zee | pre wheezy |
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| 00:03.54 | nsadmin | first, you could track wheezy, and do this either by upgrading periodically and automatically |
| 00:04.10 | Zee | i run it once a week or so |
| 00:04.14 | Zee | atleast |
| 00:04.57 | nsadmin | you could also track wheezy by looking at the updates available, and print that list out and put the printout into a book that says what you decided to do |
| 00:05.49 | nsadmin | if the machine you'd be running prerelease wheezy is somehow important, I would go for the latter, cherrypicking what you want to update |
| 00:06.57 | Zee | ok |
| 00:07.22 | nsadmin | or at minimum, knowing at each upgrade what things get upgraded, install, and possibly do cleanup work after, in case (say) some script that uses the thing you upgraded would fail... then you would fix your script and go on |
| 00:08.06 | Zee | i would have to edit the sources list too wouldnt i |
| 00:08.08 | nsadmin | keep a record of what gets upgraded so that you have a greater sense of control over your machine |
| 00:08.10 | Zee | to say stable |
| 00:08.15 | Zee | when its stable |
| 00:08.31 | nsadmin | I would use "wheezy" |
| 00:08.37 | nsadmin | and then you don't have to edit |
| 00:08.58 | nsadmin | until and unless you want to upgrade beyond that |
| 00:09.08 | Zee | ok |
| 00:09.31 | nsadmin | for me personally, I hate doing an upgrade to find something changed that I depended on before |
| 00:09.55 | Zee | yea |
| 00:09.59 | Zee | thats my concern |
| 00:10.45 | nsadmin | well in that case you might want to stick with squeeze for important (mainly == servers) machines |
| 00:11.00 | Zee | im on wheezy |
| 00:11.09 | Zee | server is wheezy |
| 00:11.43 | nsadmin | hmm, then you might want to keep track... things can change more on testing than they can on stable |
| 00:12.03 | Zee | yup |
| 00:12.08 | Zee | but so far so good |
| 00:12.21 | Zee | also why I am concerned with making backups! |
| 00:12.45 | nsadmin | yeah, you might decide you want to restore to a particular time point |
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| 00:13.40 | gasull | I'm touching everything in alsamixer -c 0 but I still can't get the microphone to work |
| 00:14.05 | nsadmin | and, you might want to handle data (such as what's in /home) differently or on a different schedule than the stuff in /usr /var /etc /bin /sbin /lib |
| 00:14.26 | nsadmin | and such as database files and dumps |
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| 00:22.35 | gasull | How did you guys get your mic working? Did it work out of the box? I have wheezy. |
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| 00:25.09 | nsadmin | gasull, did you find alsa-info.sh? |
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| 00:25.57 | gasull | nsadmin: I think I'm using pulseaudio. How can I know if I am? And if so, why do I need to configure ALSA? I'm so confused |
| 00:26.11 | gasull | I'm searching for alsa-info.sh right now |
| 00:27.04 | nsadmin | if you look at the output of lsmod, do you see anything starting with snd? ( | grep "^snd") |
| 00:27.26 | nsadmin | or just look at the whole list |
| 00:28.05 | nsadmin | that would be how to know if you have alsa modules running |
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| 00:31.10 | Zeeflo | uhmm.. |
| 00:31.28 | Zeeflo | im having trouble adding my rsync.sh script to run a few times a day with cron.. |
| 00:31.43 | gasull | nsadmin: yes http://pastebin.com/JL7EPWgW |
| 00:31.55 | Zeeflo | could someone please tell me the right way to add the script to cron? |
| 00:32.07 | gasull | nsadmin: the output of utils_alsa-info.sh is too long to pastebin. |
| 00:32.25 | nsadmin | it pastebins itself :) |
| 00:32.40 | nsadmin | or one of those scripts does |
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| 00:34.40 | nsadmin | gasull, so it does look like you're running alsa (whether you're also running pulse, I dunno; maybe) |
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| 00:35.45 | gasull | nsadmin: the output of alsa-info: http://www.sendspace.com/file/jzo883 |
| 00:35.45 | Zeeflo | is this a valid crontab: 10 0 * * * /root/rsync.sh |
| 00:35.57 | gasull | nsadmin: pulseaudio is installed |
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| 00:37.47 | gasull | nsadmin: pulseaudio is shown in ps aux |
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| 00:38.59 | nsadmin | Zeeflo, looks ok to me... did you use crontab -e? or how did you get it in there? |
| 00:39.10 | Zeeflo | crontab -e yes |
| 00:39.22 | nsadmin | as which user? |
| 00:39.25 | Zeeflo | root |
| 00:39.31 | Zeeflo | rsync should run as root |
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| 00:40.07 | Zeeflo | what should it look like if I would want it to run every 6 hours |
| 00:40.23 | Zeeflo | say at 6am 12pm 6pm and 0pm |
| 00:40.59 | Tramp | Zeeflo: did you check "man 5 crontab" already? |
| 00:41.07 | Zeeflo | yes |
| 00:41.12 | nsadmin | 0,6,12,18 |
| 00:41.17 | Zeeflo | i just dont understand it kinda.. |
| 00:41.23 | nsadmin | in second field |
| 00:41.32 | coabaia | :) |
| 00:41.33 | Zeeflo | 10 0,6,12,18 * * * /bin/nightly |
| 00:41.45 | Zeeflo | * 0,6,12,18 * * * /bin/nightly |
| 00:41.47 | Zeeflo | ? |
| 00:42.12 | nsadmin | * in first field means "run every minute |
| 00:42.14 | nsadmin | " |
| 00:42.23 | Zeeflo | yea |
| 00:42.27 | Zeeflo | then hour etc etc |
| 00:42.56 | Zeeflo | so * instead of minutes and then define hours instead |
| 00:43.12 | Zeeflo | * 0,6,12,18 * * * |
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| 00:43.44 | nsadmin | that would mean "run 60 times in each selected hour" |
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| 00:44.23 | Zeeflo | * 0,6,12,18 * * * /root/rsync.sh |
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| 00:44.28 | Zeeflo | is that correct then? |
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| 00:45.12 | Zeeflo | or should i define with 0 ? |
| 00:45.20 | Zeeflo | 0 0,6,12,18 * * * /root/rsync.sh |
| 00:45.56 | nsadmin | do you want the script to run at 0:01, 0:02, 0:03, ..., 0:59, 6:00, ..., 6:59, etc? |
| 00:45.57 | Zeeflo | that must be it |
| 00:46.17 | nsadmin | so that would select minute 0 |
| 00:46.18 | Zeeflo | 0 0,6,12,18 * * * |
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| 00:46.33 | Zeeflo | minute 0 is once every hour |
| 00:46.44 | Zeeflo | but only on hour 0, 6 etc |
| 00:46.47 | nsadmin | meaning 0:00, 6:00, 12:00, 18:00 |
| 00:46.53 | Zeeflo | yea |
| 00:47.03 | Zeeflo | got it |
| 00:47.19 | Zeeflo | 0 0,6,12,18 * * * :) |
| 00:47.20 | Zeeflo | thanks |
| 00:47.42 | nsadmin | the 10 you had before in the first field would have meant... 0:10, 6:10, 12:10, 18:10 |
| 00:47.49 | Zeeflo | yea |
| 00:47.55 | laptnovic | When you launch the new version of debian, it will be possible to choose the keyboard layout to dvorack native instead of QWERTY ABNT 2? |
| 00:48.13 | gasull | nsadmin: I got it working. I used alsamixer again. Not sure what I did this time. Alsamixer is like a big mud I can't understand. |
| 00:49.09 | nsadmin | gasull, alsamixer uses alsa's idea of what's out there... like what vol controls, what switches, etc |
| 00:49.33 | laptnovic | is bad for me at boot time installation live with QWERTY ABNT2 |
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| 00:50.30 | nsadmin | Zeeflo, now, see if you understand any better when you read man 5 crontab |
| 00:50.40 | Zeeflo | ok |
| 00:50.50 | nsadmin | (notice it takes a minute to get what it's saying) |
| 00:51.21 | laptnovic | nsadmin the next version of debian will be possible to choose the layout dvorak native en at boot? |
| 00:51.28 | laptnovic | in boot |
| 00:51.36 | nsadmin | laptnovic, there should be a way |
| 00:51.50 | nsadmin | personally, I have never had to deal with that |
| 00:52.39 | laptnovic | nsadmin in boot installation is only possible to choose QWERTY ABNT 2 |
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| 00:53.18 | arthurmaciel | hello |
| 00:53.29 | Zeeflo | i dont understand how you would insert the @reboot |
| 00:53.43 | arthurmaciel | sshd is starting only after user login. Is there a way to start it at boot time? |
| 00:53.43 | laptnovic | my layout is here http://aprendadigitacao.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/br-nativo-simples-s2-jpg.png |
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| 00:54.58 | somiaj | arthurmaciel: that doesn't sound correct. Are you starting it after your user logins, or is it something else? |
| 00:55.14 | somiaj | arthurmaciel: but default it should be starting at startup. |
| 00:56.32 | Zeeflo | so I could make a second line in crontab that says @reboot /root/rsync.sh ? |
| 00:56.35 | arthurmaciel | somiaj: it only starts after I login as user (with gdm). |
| 00:56.40 | Zeeflo | is this how im supposed to understand it? |
| 00:58.00 | somiaj | arthurmaciel: still seems strange, I doubt the starting of sshd and login are related. |
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| 00:58.13 | somiaj | arthurmaciel: but things to look, ' |
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| 00:58.57 | somiaj | arthurmaciel: but things to look, 'ls /etc/rc?.d/*ssh -- do you see links like /etc/rc2.d/S20ssh (the 20 could be some other number)( |
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| 00:59.23 | nsadmin | Zeeflo, show your present crontab entry? |
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| 01:00.06 | Zeeflo | sure |
| 01:00.20 | Zeeflo | @reboot /root/rsync.sh |
| 01:00.20 | Zeeflo | 0 0,6,12,18 * * * /root/rsync.sh |
| 01:00.48 | nsadmin | ok, in the second line, what are the first five fields? |
| 01:01.26 | arthurmaciel | somiaj: there is no such file. |
| 01:01.53 | Zeeflo | minutes, hours, day, month, day in the week |
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| 01:02.57 | nsadmin | right... and in your entry, what are your first five fields you've put together in the second line of your crontab (aka, what are your actual values for those fields)? |
| 01:04.12 | nsadmin | (if you wish to read ahead, I am saying "yes, you are understanding correctly") |
| 01:04.14 | somiaj | arthurmaciel: ok, first what version of debian are you running? Do you have ssh-server installed? (dpkg -l | grep openssh-server)? 3) set up the init scripts by 'update-rc.d ssh defaults' |
| 01:04.17 | arthurmaciel | somiaj: and the worst part: it takes a while after logging in to start the ssh server |
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| 01:04.58 | somiaj | arthurmaciel: I don't think the login is doing this. I think there is something causing the ssh server to take so long to start up. If you just left the login alone my guess it would eventally start up. |
| 01:05.06 | Zeeflo | 0 minutes, 0,6,12,18, first-last, first-last, first-last |
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| 01:05.11 | arthurmaciel | debian squeeze and yes, openssh-server is installed |
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| 01:05.35 | somiaj | arthurmaciel: you should go check the ssh logs, maybe there is something in the start process that is causing the startup to hit a snag and it is waiting for a timeout to finish starting the service. |
| 01:05.40 | Zeeflo | first-last meaning every day in every month, in every day of the week |
| 01:05.40 | arthurmaciel | somiaj: I have tried that. It would be an impossible coincidence, because I have tried many times. |
| 01:06.02 | arthurmaciel | somiaj: where can I find ssh logs, please? |
| 01:06.08 | somiaj | arthurmaciel: /var/log with the rest of the logs |
| 01:06.20 | james__ | I am installing debian onto an asus zenbook which has uefi. It has completed installation and is now at the grub install. It says it failed to install into /target/. How do I fix this? |
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| 01:06.32 | nsadmin | yes... so the man page there, says that you can create a line that does not have those first five fields, and instead has one of those strings that start with @, and has the meaning indicated on the right |
| 01:06.38 | arthurmaciel | well, cat /var/log/* | grep ssh, should return something, right? |
| 01:06.59 | Zeeflo | yea |
| 01:07.13 | Zeeflo | thats why, to me, my crontab looks fine! |
| 01:07.48 | Zeeflo | its told to ask on every reboot, and then its told to run every 6th hour every day |
| 01:07.53 | Zeeflo | correct? |
| 01:07.57 | nsadmin | it does look fine |
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| 01:08.12 | Zeeflo | awesome :) |
| 01:08.14 | Zeeflo | thanks |
| 01:08.18 | nsadmin | yep |
| 01:08.47 | nsadmin | and now you know why I sometimes ask questions that may not make immediate sense |
| 01:09.03 | Zeeflo | yes |
| 01:09.04 | Zeeflo | :D |
| 01:09.31 | arthurmaciel | somiaj: I'm worried: in the logs there are many login attempts from the world! (not related to the problem of course) |
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| 01:09.39 | somiaj | arthurmaciel: are you loging into x as root? Yea I thought ssh had a log, but it puts most info in /var/log/auth.log about users loging |
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| 01:09.47 | Zeeflo | out of curiosity, the crontab runs in the background doesnt it? |
| 01:09.57 | somiaj | arthurmaciel: if you have a server on the network you will get bots trying to hack in by sending ssh logins |
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| 01:10.26 | somiaj | Zeeflo: yes cron runs in the background (crontab is what configures the scripts cron runs) |
| 01:10.36 | Zeeflo | ok |
| 01:11.36 | Zeeflo | so now, crontab calls this rsync. The rsync script send files over the lan.. |
| 01:11.55 | Zeeflo | What will happen with the cronjob if rsync cant connect to the other server? |
| 01:11.59 | nsadmin | it should :) |
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| 01:12.09 | Zeeflo | will it abort or? |
| 01:12.18 | somiaj | it depends on the script |
| 01:12.37 | Zeeflo | the script does not define anything other then run |
| 01:12.39 | somiaj | the script will run and do what ever the programs in it do. But yes if rsync cannot find the machine to connect to it just errors out |
| 01:12.46 | james__ | just wondering if i need grub if my system uses uefi, there doesnt seem to be much information on how to get debian installed on uefi |
| 01:12.49 | Zeeflo | ok |
| 01:12.55 | Zeeflo | it just errors out! |
| 01:13.04 | Zeeflo | and then terminates the cronjob |
| 01:13.06 | Zeeflo | ? |
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| 01:13.20 | arthurmaciel | somiaj: the last lines: |
| 01:13.23 | arthurmaciel | Sep 22 21:50:54 zion sshd[17897]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session closed for user arthur |
| 01:13.23 | arthurmaciel | Sep 22 21:51:56 zion sshd[1923]: Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 22. |
| 01:13.23 | arthurmaciel | Sep 22 21:51:56 zion sshd[1923]: Server listening on :: port 22. |
| 01:13.23 | arthurmaciel | Sep 22 21:57:11 zion sshd[2293]: Accepted password for arthur from 192.168.1.101 port 54464 ssh2 |
| 01:13.28 | arthurmaciel | Sep 22 21:57:11 zion sshd[2293]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session opened for user arthur by (uid=0) |
| 01:13.31 | arthurmaciel | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:13.45 | Zeeflo | listening on 0-0-0-0 ? |
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| 01:13.53 | arthurmaciel | yeah, that's strange. |
| 01:14.01 | Zeeflo | shouldnt that be 127.0.0.1 |
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| 01:14.21 | arthurmaciel | yep |
| 01:14.22 | nsadmin | Zeeflo, you may have to write things so it does that, and returns an exit code that reflects whether or not the commands succeeded or failed |
| 01:14.23 | Zeeflo | edit your /etc/ssh/sshd.condif |
| 01:14.38 | Zeeflo | edit your /etc/ssh/sshd.condig |
| 01:14.43 | Zeeflo | edit your /etc/ssh/sshd.config* |
| 01:14.45 | arthurmaciel | ok, I got it |
| 01:15.07 | Zeeflo | shit... I cant write stuff like that.. |
| 01:15.09 | arthurmaciel | /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 01:15.09 | somiaj | Zeeflo: sshd_config I belive is what it is. (: |
| 01:15.17 | Zeeflo | yea, youre right :) |
| 01:15.32 | Zeeflo | i gotta get some sleep |
| 01:15.45 | Zeeflo | ill read up on how to create a decent rsync script tomorrow |
| 01:15.54 | Zeeflo | good night |
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| 01:16.35 | arthurmaciel | changing subjects (while rebooting the machine), do you know any decent and cheap debian server? |
| 01:17.12 | arthurmaciel | ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.100 port 22: No route to host <--- damn |
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| 01:18.26 | arthurmaciel | ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.100 port 22: Connection refused <--- after user login |
| 01:18.28 | nsadmin | arthurmaciel, so ssh is working, but something in your networking is preventing you from reaching the whole machine |
| 01:19.21 | arthurmaciel | nsadmin: but strange. It happened after changing /etc/ssh/sshd_config to listen on 127.0.0.1. Before that it would accept my connection. |
| 01:19.30 | nsadmin | what kind of machine is it? laptop? desktop? if desktop, what purpose? server? play? general? |
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| 01:19.44 | nsadmin | brb, foodtime! |
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| 01:23.52 | arthurmaciel | nsadmin: laptop, but should be a playground server and a hometheather pc |
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| 01:25.44 | arthurmaciel | nsadmin: geez, I commented the ListenAddress 127.0.0.1 on /etc/ssh/sshd_config and now it accepts connection. But only after user login (through gdm) on this machine. That's quite strange! |
| 01:26.02 | micket | So I'm trying to set up a VPN on my computer (for a friend in china). I've installed pptpd and set up a username and password for him, and I can see him log in. I'm struggling to find good tutorials, since its not very clear if they are setting up the client or the server.. |
| 01:26.05 | james__ | anyone here been able to install debian on a system that using uefi enabled bios |
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| 01:30.20 | nsadmin | arthurmaciel, that is strange... had you edited sshd_config before? |
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| 01:30.50 | arthurmaciel | nsadmin: nope |
| 01:31.15 | LtL | arthurmaciel: try 0.0.0.0 |
| 01:31.31 | nsadmin | arthurmaciel, I don't actually think it's sshd but something it depends on |
| 01:31.42 | nsadmin | or so0mething that depends on it |
| 01:32.29 | nsadmin | arthurmaciel, is this a desktop? server? something else? |
| 01:33.12 | arthurmaciel | nsadmin and somiaj: how stupid I was: the wifi network only connects AFTER user login through gdm. How do I set up wifi connection at boot time? |
| 01:33.37 | nsadmin | how do you configure that? |
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| 01:34.11 | nsadmin | also I still have the "type of machine" question |
| 01:34.54 | arthurmaciel | <arthurmaciel> nsadmin: laptop, but should be a playground server and a |
| 01:34.54 | arthurmaciel | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:34.54 | arthurmaciel | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:35.29 | arthurmaciel | nsadmin: I don't configure a thing. That's how debian squeeze was installed by default. I just setup a user |
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| 01:37.26 | james__ | is it possible to boot debian without a bootloader installed? like maybe from usb key? |
| 01:38.03 | nsadmin | ok, so does that mean you're using network-manager or wicd? |
| 01:38.22 | alfplayer | james__: yes |
| 01:38.57 | james__ | alfplayer, how would i go about doing that? |
| 01:39.19 | alfplayer | james__: the bootloader would be installed in the usb key |
| 01:40.13 | allorder | james__: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ or on a cd |
| 01:40.17 | alfplayer | james__: you need to do that, get the bootloader installed in the usb |
| 01:40.57 | james__ | ok i do have a copy of that iso on disk somewhere ill look into that as my temporary solution |
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| 01:41.46 | nsadmin | james__, curious, can your machine not boot? |
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| 01:42.42 | james__ | nsadmin, i havent rebooted yet, but im sure i will just get a black screen since there is no grub just a cobbled uefi partition |
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| 01:43.25 | nsadmin | so it's that you're not yet sure you can boot, and you don't want to end up with a doorstop |
| 01:43.49 | james__ | thats right, or i will need to go through the whole netinstall again ha |
| 01:44.31 | nsadmin | so the cd, the supergrub thing, should get you into a grub shell, from there you can attempt to boot |
| 01:44.52 | james__ | usually i run hardware that is 5+ years old so with my recent purchase of a laptop i discovered uefi bios for the first time (my nightmare thus far) |
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| 01:47.32 | james__ | so far i have had a heck of a time trying to install because my usb netinstall kept failing and i have no internal cd drive |
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| 01:53.54 | raden | where do i put root hints on debian |
| 01:55.35 | nsadmin | gotcha... so, I'm not the best person to show you how to do this (unless I read up first)... but, start with what are your resources... do you have a cd burner? a usb storage thing? |
| 01:55.45 | nsadmin | raden, what's a root hint? |
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| 02:00.02 | raden | nsadmin, for DNS |
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| 02:00.26 | arthurmaciel | nsadmin: networkmanage |
| 02:00.27 | nsadmin | oh, you mean the list of root servers |
| 02:00.31 | arthurmaciel | networkmanager |
| 02:01.00 | nsadmin | arthurmaciel, as far as I know, networkmanager starts when a user logs into x |
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| 02:01.32 | somiaj | I think network manager starts at bootup, but the user settings on prefered networks don't get parsed until you login |
| 02:03.37 | arthurmaciel | somiaj and nsadmin: how to get connection to a specific wifi sid at startup? |
| 02:03.56 | somiaj | you can configure /etc/network/interfaces for wirless devices and info |
| 02:04.01 | nsadmin | slow typer,,, that was supposed to be my q! |
| 02:04.59 | arthurmaciel | thank you, guys! |
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| 02:08.47 | nsadmin | arthurmaciel, you will probably want to set up the wireless in /etc/network/interfaces for use where you are... and comment it out (and restart networkmanager) when you travel with the machine |
| 02:09.13 | nsadmin | that would make it easy for you to scan for and find networks when you're out and about |
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| 02:41.44 | lduros` | hello, I'm trying to use my laptop without X or a window manager, so I simply did ctrl + alt + f1 from xfce. My question is, is there a way to get information on the battery from the shell only? |
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| 02:44.27 | somiaj | yea that info hides in /sys or /proc somewhere (think sys) |
| 02:44.37 | lduros` | hmm |
| 02:44.51 | lduros` | ok let me check, somiaj |
| 02:45.05 | somiaj | I forget where it is hiding, but usually that is where graphical things look and then give you a graphical representation |
| 02:45.06 | lduros` | maybe /sys/power |
| 02:45.22 | somiaj | (not sure if anyone made a cli app that parses the info and prints it nicely to a console for you) |
| 02:45.57 | lduros` | somiaj: here is what I see in /sys/power >> |
| 02:46.00 | lduros` | disk image_size pm_async pm_test reserved_size resume state wakeup_count |
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| 02:46.12 | somiaj | I don'[t think it is /sys/power -- there is a battery entry under acpi I belive |
| 02:46.14 | lduros` | I'm not sure anything corresponds to the batteyies |
| 02:46.34 | lduros` | somiaj: ha! Actually |
| 02:46.40 | lduros` | I just typed $ acpi |
| 02:46.49 | lduros` | from the command line and got: |
| 02:46.54 | lduros` | Battery 0: Discharging, 78%, 04:38:47 remaining |
| 02:47.00 | lduros` | neat! |
| 02:47.01 | lduros` | :-) |
| 02:47.08 | somiaj | ahh yea duh...(: |
| 02:47.22 | lduros` | heh, pretty cool |
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| 02:47.23 | lduros` | :-) |
| 02:47.33 | lduros` | it must be reading this from somewhere, but who knows |
| 02:48.01 | somiaj | its getting it from somewhere in /sys (use to be /proc/acpi/battery but its not there on newer kernels, things moved on me) |
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| 02:48.21 | lduros` | I'm trying to learn Lisp but I get distracted every time in XFCE by random stuff, so turning off all things graphics helps! :-) |
| 02:48.24 | somiaj | ahh I don't even haev acpi installed, must just be a tool to give you info |
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| 02:48.55 | lduros` | somiaj: yeh I just installed yacpi earlier |
| 02:48.58 | lduros` | that must be it |
| 02:50.11 | Tramp | for me it's under /sys/class/power_supply/ |
| 02:50.16 | lduros` | ahh let me check |
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| 02:50.44 | somiaj | and just figured out I'm trying to find battery info on my desktop, no wonder I coudln't find it with find...:/ |
| 02:50.57 | lduros` | hehe |
| 02:51.08 | lduros` | makes sense |
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| 04:22.20 | fredl | is it safe to upgrade from squeeze to wheezy simply by changing squeeze -> wheezy in sources.list followed by apt-get update/dist-upgrade? |
| 04:25.32 | LtL | !tell fredl about squeeze->wheezy |
| 04:26.01 | LtL | fredl: read msg from dpkg |
| 04:26.08 | fredl | gotcha, read it, tnx |
| 04:26.22 | LtL | fredl: welcome |
| 04:26.41 | fredl | I'm doing it on a virtual host right now to test it. |
| 04:27.20 | fredl | freeze was in june from what I read.. |
| 04:27.47 | simonlnu | yep |
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| 04:28.22 | simonlnu | 12th, IIRC |
| 04:28.35 | fredl | so is wheezy already considered 'supported' here? |
| 04:28.55 | sney | somewhat, but you'll have better luck still in #debian-next on oftc |
| 04:29.06 | ArtificialEX | when is wheezy stable? |
| 04:29.11 | sney | !wwwr |
| 04:29.12 | dpkg | I don't know when Wheezy will release, but I can say that it will be sooner if you help. Ask me about <wheezy pool> for contributed release date guesses. Wheezy was frozen on June 30th, 2012 -- ask me about <freeze>. If you'd like wheezy to release sooner rather than later, perhaps you could help squash some <rc bugs>! |
| 04:29.14 | fredl | nobody knows :) |
| 04:29.38 | ArtificialEX | frozen does not = release? |
| 04:29.44 | fredl | nope. |
| 04:30.07 | ArtificialEX | but... frozen means nothing will change? |
| 04:30.19 | fredl | nope. |
| 04:30.48 | fredl | it means there won't be any new functionality or major releases. |
| 04:30.54 | ArtificialEX | gotcha |
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| 04:32.22 | fredl | thing I never really understood is how the # of release critical bugs is related to the actual release :P |
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| 04:39.07 | fredl | debian is going to maintain it's firefox policy in wheezy? |
| 04:39.13 | fredl | its |
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| 04:54.09 | simonlnu | um, yeh, considering that mozilla hasn't changed their mind |
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| 04:55.29 | simonlnu | fredl: TBH, dunno. technically it's still testing so i'm treaating it that way. dunno how others feel about it. |
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| 05:12.12 | fredl | simonlnu, not going to upgrade on any production systems just yet. |
| 05:13.08 | fredl | gotten burnt by being too eager in the past several times. |
| 05:14.53 | fredl | just, I have a laptop from work that's kinda new and squeeze wouldn't work properly on it, so I made the dumb move to install sid on it a few months ago |
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| 05:44.19 | KsM | ugh |
| 05:44.20 | KsM | so |
| 05:44.50 | GreenET | What's a good way to vote "yes" and encourage the inclusion of a package into "testing" build? The "to do" already says: "A new upstream version is available: 451, you should consider packaging it." |
| 05:45.12 | KsM | starting xfce from a tty with "startxfce4" under wheezy, can't use the suspend/hibernate/shutdown options, how do I fix this |
| 05:45.19 | GreenET | Someone else already suggested inclusion. |
| 05:46.04 | KsM | also to allow me to run just reboot/pm-suspend from a command line without needing sudo and without screwing with chown on weird things |
| 05:46.17 | KsM | [possibly] |
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| 05:47.25 | The_Josh | How do I install intltool, It says my intltool is too old :3 |
| 05:47.26 | engla | GreenET: at this moment it's not going into testing, wheezy is frozen |
| 05:48.05 | GreenET | engla: i see |
| 05:48.46 | GreenET | engla: into "unstable", perhaps? |
| 05:50.35 | GreenET | or does an upstream package which couldn't make it into "testing" get backported to "stable"? Is that the alternate route? |
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| 05:58.24 | egp_ | hey. How do I mount ntfs usb partition rw ? |
| 06:02.51 | egp_ | it currently has an /etc/fstab entry: |
| 06:02.52 | egp_ | UUID=E238867E38865189 /media/h1 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 |
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| 06:10.14 | egp_ | also, ls /media/h1 shows access denied, and sudo ls /media/h1 works |
| 06:10.33 | egp_ | i need ls to work as an ordinary user |
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| 06:17.18 | egp_ | hmm. somehow all subfolders of /media/h1 show as root.root . I need them to be egp.* |
| 06:19.21 | egp_ | ubuntu mounts such drives as egp.egp . and debian as root.root |
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| 07:06.52 | becker_11 | can someone please take a look at mozilla.debian.org 1 of the insrtuctions there isn't very clear to me |
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| 07:07.57 | becker_11 | it says ti use http://your-mirror.debian.org/debian but my mirror is http://ftp.iinet.net.au so that url with another .debian.org/debian after it can't possibly be right can it? |
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| 07:08.42 | becker_11 | or should I use http://ftp.iinet.debian.org/debian |
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| 07:23.36 | becker_11 | I'm getting a "Failed to fetch http://mozilla.debian.net/dists/experimental/Release Unable to find expected entry "iceweasel/binary-i386/Packages" in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file) error |
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| 07:24.06 | becker_11 | This is extremely frustrating |
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| 07:31.21 | guest2 | #flood |
| 07:33.04 | simonlnu | over there >>> |
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| 07:33.38 | guest2 | dpkg, cn |
| 07:33.38 | dpkg | 如果您想得到中文的帮助，请您移步本服务器上的#debian-zh频道，进入方式是在您现在输入文字的输入框中输入"/join #debian-zh" （不含引号），谢谢您的合作如果您想要得到中文的協助，請加入伺服器上的 #debian-zh (irc.oftc.net) 頻道，加入方法為在輸入框中輸入 "/server irc.oftc.net" 和 "/join #debian-zh" (不要加引號)，謝謝您的合作! |
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| 07:34.42 | simonlnu | wow, it did real utf-8. nice |
| 07:35.21 | M0TRN_th1 | bunch of chinese characters on my screen |
| 07:35.33 | simonlnu | yup, that's intended ;) |
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| 07:42.55 | julius_ | hi |
| 07:43.37 | julius_ | what other ways of booting besides grub(2) and lilo are there? got a cheap openvz vps and neither grup nor lilo is installed |
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| 07:46.34 | guest2 | pick the harddisk to other computer... |
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| 09:18.13 | np_complete | hey |
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| 09:21.15 | excalibr | hello. quick q: is it possible to bind apt-get to specific network interface? |
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| 09:22.58 | np_complete | Can I run a xwindow program in a terminal, with no xserver running at all? |
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| 09:30.47 | xand | np_complete: no? |
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| 09:32.21 | slacks | ähhh |
| 09:32.24 | slacks | Naimalein ;) |
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| 09:38.39 | awc737 | hi, I can never quite get my www directory permissions correct |
| 09:39.15 | awc737 | I very closely follow this first answer's steps: http://serverfault.com/questions/6895/whats-the-best-way-of-handling-permissions-for-apache2s-user-www-data-in-var |
| 09:39.45 | awc737 | but still if I, for example work on some code outside of www directory, then copy or upload it to a site, I get incorrect permissions |
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| 09:41.53 | Andon | np_complete: You could run an X server on a remote host, and point the application to that host... does said software actually do anything from the command line? Otherwise this is just silly. |
| 09:42.03 | Andon | Form the terminal, I should say. |
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| 09:43.36 | Andon | From |
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| 09:46.15 | humbolt | Anybody fit with GlusterFS? |
| 09:46.23 | np_complete | just a sec. |
| 09:46.46 | humbolt | How does GlusterFS behave, if I have 3 HDDs each in three nodes and I set replication count to 3. Will I end up with all 3 replica on disks/bricks of just one node? |
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| 09:54.58 | mahdy | i recreate initrd.lz and change plymoth theme in lib/plymouth/themes/default.plymouth but default theme still appears in live mode , why ? any idea ? |
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| 09:56.45 | np_complete | Andon, yes, program does something from command line. |
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| 09:57.20 | np_complete | maybe I can have a xserver running with no phisical display conected. |
| 09:57.48 | np_complete | so the program is connected to the xserver, but no human is watching any fancy windows |
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| 09:59.59 | Andon | Yeah, you might be able to setup a "headless" X server |
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| 10:01.21 | Andon | See Xvfb - X Virtual Framebuffer |
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| 10:02.52 | Andon | Better yet, the software might have a -nodisplay option. |
| 10:03.44 | np_complete | thanks |
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| 10:06.22 | ravenzz | hello folks |
| 10:06.59 | np_complete | I will use Debian till I die. |
| 10:08.55 | ravenzz | I have my website which runs under the www-data user, now I would like to log into the server throught an sftp connection with my regular users and be able to change files on the fly. So I added the latter to the www-data group |
| 10:09.16 | ravenzz | the thing is that right now the files default permission is 644 |
| 10:09.31 | ravenzz | is it fine to change it to 664 ? |
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| 10:19.44 | julius_ | any recommendations for a command line ftp client that does support tls besides lftp? |
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| 10:24.33 | somiaj | I like lftp, but there is the basic ftp-ssl' |
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| 10:32.36 | tictacbum | hello |
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| 10:35.36 | tictacbum | I'm using Debian Wheezy on amd64, after today upgrade my 32bit apps are crashing, I am using Debian nvidia packages, on libgl1-nvidia-glx-ia32 I read "please switch to multiarch libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386" |
| 10:36.38 | tictacbum | but this "apt-get install libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386" removes a lot of packages which I'm currently using |
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| 10:41.37 | tictacbum | ah, I guess I'm on this bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=640499 :( |
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| 10:45.31 | ooxii | hi, i need a minimal http server, which only serves one file (perhaps directory) specified by command line |
| 10:45.55 | ooxii | it would be trivial to write such a program, but i cannot find an implementation |
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| 10:46.07 | petemc | you can do that with python |
| 10:47.04 | Gargantua | nginx? |
| 10:47.09 | ooxii | petemc, do you know something like a one file implementation of that in python? i know it's possible, but i cannot find something that does that |
| 10:47.20 | Gargantua | micro-httpd? mini-httpd? |
| 10:48.35 | somiaj | tictacbum: multiarch is still in transition. I think there are some unoffical multiarch libs you can use to get nvidia glx 32bit working (it is what I had to do in sid) |
| 10:48.46 | ooxii | gargantua, at least nginx & mini httpd need a configuration and prefer to run as daemon. i just want to share one file for a couple of minutes, without having to setup something link a full server. something like mongoose but for linux |
| 10:48.59 | ooxii | i don't know micro httpd, i'll look at it |
| 10:49.20 | tictacbum | somiaj: on bug I found a link to http://www.ralfj.de/upload/debian |
| 10:49.29 | ooxii | hm wait, here it says mongoose does run cross platform |
| 10:49.30 | tictacbum | somiaj: I am trying it now |
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| 10:58.36 | Gargantua | Is wheezy really a security risk? |
| 10:58.58 | jelly-home | Gargantua: yes |
| 10:59.06 | tictacbum | somiaj: I did the steps on /usr/share/doc/libgl1-nvidia-glx-ia32/NEWS.Debian.gz but nvidia glx 32bits still not working |
| 10:59.37 | tictacbum | somiaj: maybe I have to install something more¿? |
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| 11:00.23 | Gargantua | jelly-home: how come? |
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| 11:02.08 | somiaj | what steps did you do? Were are you at? Have you enabled multiarch yet? |
| 11:02.21 | somiaj | did you do apt-get update after you edited your sources.list and ran the dpkg add arch command |
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| 11:02.32 | somiaj | tictacbum: ^^ |
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| 11:02.58 | somiaj | Gargantua: because there is no active security support for it. And fixes can take a while to make it into testing |
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| 11:03.18 | tictacbum | somiaj: I added multiarch support with "dpkg --add-architecture i386 ; apt-get update" |
| 11:03.20 | Gargantua | Sigh. |
| 11:03.28 | Gargantua | I hate being stuck with old software. |
| 11:04.00 | somiaj | Gargantua: use a different distro if you don't want the security/stability of debian. Use backports for the few thigns you want newer. |
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| 11:04.21 | Gargantua | Nah, I like debian. |
| 11:04.25 | tictacbum | somiaj: I installed libxvmc1 packages from http://www.ralfj.de/upload/debian/, then I installed packages mentioned at /usr/share/doc/libgl1-nvidia-glx-ia32/NEWS.Debian.gz (libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386 nvidia-vdpau-driver:i386 libcuda1:i386 nvidia-opencl-icd:i386) |
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| 11:05.25 | somiaj | tictacbum: so they are all installed? |
| 11:05.30 | tictacbum | yes |
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| 11:06.22 | tictacbum | somiaj: need to restart X server? |
| 11:07.27 | somiaj | well did you end up installing a new nvidia kernel module sometime during this process and haven't loaded the new module and restarted X? |
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| 11:08.00 | tictacbum | somiaj: no, I did it before, on the normal upgrade, and restarted X server then |
| 11:08.08 | Gargantua | How can I use debsums to check that the binaries I have not been tampered with? |
| 11:08.22 | folivora | Gday, could someone help me with sound problem. I have nVidia ION mobo, it seems that sounds is pushed out from HDMI and not analog, how I can change this? |
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| 11:16.57 | tictacbum | somiaj: while installing nvidia-opencl-icd:i386 it removed nvidia-libopencl1 nvidia-libopencl1-ia32 nvidia-opencl-dev |
| 11:16.59 | Gargantua | http://wiki.debian.org/CheckingDebsums |
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| 11:17.03 | Gargantua | Can I do this without a livecd? |
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| 11:18.16 | tictacbum | somiaj: can you show me your i386 installed packages? dpkg -l | grep i386 |
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| 11:23.58 | Gagarin | Hi, I'm trying to controll the fan on my intel dn2800mt. there are no *pwm* files in /sys/class/hwmon and pwmconfig seems to be not loger included in debian wheezy. I ran sensors-detect and sensors have been detected and they seem to work (but one, it constantly says 110.5°C,. that seems to be a bug) What do i have to do to controll the fans? |
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| 11:28.19 | Zeeflo | i know this isnt a vsftpd channel.. but the ¤#!#" in #vsftpd could care less.. Can I ask a vsftpd question here? |
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| 11:29.18 | somiaj | tictacbum: http://paste.debian.net/192143/ |
| 11:29.24 | Quix0r | can you please fix that keyboard-freezing bug in xorg? |
| 11:29.47 | Quix0r | suddenly the keyboard input freezes with some latest xorg changes |
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| 11:30.05 | somiaj | Zeeflo: most likely you'll get sent back to #vsftpd, but you can always try. I just wouldn't push it. (: |
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| 11:30.32 | tictacbum | somiaj: thanks |
| 11:30.42 | somiaj | Quix0r: latest xorg changes? What version of debian? what version of xorg? Did you check the BTS and file a bug if one is not there |
| 11:30.55 | Zeeflo | i get a 530 incorrect login.. I have created the user with useradd etc etc.. This is my config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1222284/ |
| 11:31.03 | Zeeflo | am I missing something? |
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| 11:31.16 | tictacbum | somiaj: I should uninstall ia32-libs? |
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| 11:31.20 | Quix0r | somiaj: Unstable AMD64. I have never had that trouble |
| 11:31.36 | becker_11 | Quix0r, seriously?? Is that an xorg issue? I've been cursing my lappie for weeks because of this |
| 11:31.46 | somiaj | tictacbum: ia32-libs should upgrade you and install a bunch of :i386 libs in its place. but yea I wouldn't have the old ia32libs package and the new multi-arch mixing. |
| 11:31.48 | Zeeflo | my messages.log says something about permission denied to the user home dir.. But the userhome dir is chmodded to 777, so it shouldbt present a problem |
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| 11:32.29 | Quix0r | becker_11/somiaj: I have this same issue: bug ticket #681409 |
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| 11:33.00 | Quix0r | yes, seriously. I have that bug several weeks now since xserver-xorg got updated |
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| 11:33.32 | somiaj | welcome to wheezy/sid, things break. Most info known about the bug should be located in that report. You can add to it if you have any info about the bug and follow it to see updates. |
| 11:33.33 | Quix0r | it is not related to any app, it happens suddenly |
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| 11:34.54 | Quix0r | e.g. use xterm and shift-mark (press shift key + mark some text) some text there. or start a text-editor within xterm (e.g. mcedit) and middle-click paste some text into it |
| 11:35.01 | Quix0r | that mostly causes the bug to happen |
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| 11:36.26 | Quix0r | i have *never* had such trouble since I start using unstable |
| 11:36.29 | cm13g09 | Quix0r: I'm glad I'm not the only one then... |
| 11:36.37 | cm13g09 | sorry |
| 11:36.49 | Quix0r | ? |
| 11:37.00 | cm13g09 | for a minute I thought it wasn't you with the bug |
| 11:37.03 | cm13g09 | then looked agaiN! |
| 11:37.20 | cm13g09 | seems rather nvidia related |
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| 11:38.07 | somiaj | Quix0r: how long you been using sid? I've seen many many bugs go though sid causing chaos. Though this is one seems to be strange cause it is lingering, since it doesn't seem to be mass effecting sid users it may be a bit to hunt down. |
| 11:38.39 | becker_11 | Quix0r, I get most affected in my browser trying to enter urls |
| 11:38.41 | Quix0r | I have been using it very long, 5 years or 7? |
| 11:38.59 | Quix0r | becker_11: it happens even in games (e.g. warzone2100) |
| 11:39.17 | becker_11 | Quix0r, that would suk |
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| 11:39.45 | Quix0r | it seems independent from used app/game |
| 11:40.00 | somiaj | the best chance you have to getting the bug fixed is trying to isolate some decent info about it. maybe run xev and see if you can get it to happen with that and check what sort of events are being registered. |
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| 11:40.54 | Quix0r | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=686465 <-- this is a minor thing (e.g. get latest wine/GIT working) |
| 11:41.03 | somiaj | or if you can find a way to make it happen on sid machines, but I haven't experienced such a thing here. |
| 11:41.05 | boudiccas | what command do i use extract information from dpkg about all the installed packages on a daily basis using wheezy please? |
| 11:41.21 | v4nelle | Guys if i want to install debian testing which method is better? A testing iso with beta2 installer, or a stable bussinesscard iso via expert mode? |
| 11:41.25 | somiaj | boudiccas: do you want some history of installed packages? |
| 11:41.36 | boudiccas | somiaj: yes |
| 11:41.45 | somiaj | v4nelle: I do stable netinstaller expermode. But I personally don't like testing the testing installers |
| 11:41.52 | becker_11 | I'm running Wheezy here |
| 11:42.18 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps i got something using my sound system and i cant play anything with xbmc |
| 11:42.31 | Eryn_1983_FL | whats does squeeze use? pulseaudio? |
| 11:42.44 | somiaj | becker_11: the bug seems to have been around a few months so probabaly effects wheezy to. But it is only hitting a few select people so trying to isolate what it is can help a lot (it could be some app and not xorg causing the issues) |
| 11:43.11 | tremon | boudiccas: either parse /var/log/dpkg.log or use a daily dpkg-query -la and extract change information with sort and diff |
| 11:43.48 | cm13g09 | somiaj, becker_11, Quix0r, I tend to run into it while Alt+Tabbing normally |
| 11:43.48 | v4nelle | Somiaj, but as i read on debian wiki is preferred to use tha daily builds on debian-installer. I am confused :–p |
| 11:43.56 | Jikai | Hi! |
| 11:43.56 | Jikai | Is Sid a good choice for a daily usage or not? I mean, I can find as much pros as cons (reading people advices on the Internets) so, is it _really_ unstable or is there anyone here who can say he (or she) has been using Sid for ages and didn't encounter really big (blocking) problems? |
| 11:44.00 | boudiccas | tremon: okay, i think. i'll have a go, thanks |
| 11:44.05 | v4nelle | Of* |
| 11:44.08 | cm13g09 | I shall try and see if I can see what causes it |
| 11:44.11 | nkuttler | Jikai: unstable is really unstable |
| 11:45.15 | Quix0r | I have never had such troubles before. there were broken things, but after some time they got fixed and work again |
| 11:45.22 | somiaj | v4nelle: I just go by what I know will work. stable netinstall + distupgrade the minial system to wheezy is what I know will usually work. But the testing installers seem to be stabler than times in the past |
| 11:45.24 | Quix0r | e.g. mysql-server related packages |
| 11:45.31 | nkuttler | Quix0r: yes but right now your box is broken for you.. |
| 11:45.34 | Quix0r | that what quite messy |
| 11:45.53 | nkuttler | Quix0r: and you were just lucky the years before, or you depend on very few packages |
| 11:46.02 | tictacbum | somiaj: thanks for your help! finally got it working :) |
| 11:46.04 | nkuttler | if all you need it ssh + vim sid should work more or less fine |
| 11:46.11 | nkuttler | s/it/is/ |
| 11:46.11 | somiaj | Jikai: in my 10 yaers of sid I have had xorg break multiple times, and other things that made my computer not function and required me to fix it from a rescue cd. They aren't every day but they happen from tiem to time |
| 11:46.22 | Quix0r | i need to check then if I can switch back to stable |
| 11:46.30 | Quix0r | but it will be ugly to do so |
| 11:46.32 | v4nelle | Ok somiaj... Thx for your answers! |
| 11:46.33 | nkuttler | Quix0r: you can reinstall stable |
| 11:46.43 | nkuttler | or wheezy fwiw |
| 11:46.49 | Quix0r | I have so many package selections :( |
| 11:46.59 | nkuttler | Quix0r: dpkg --save-selections |
| 11:47.09 | nkuttler | --get-selections |
| 11:47.29 | Quix0r | I mean auto-selections (e.g. what aptitude does) |
| 11:47.29 | somiaj | Jikai: once things are up and running it runs ok (usually no random crashes), but due to its changing nature youw ill find yourself upgrading to stay current or to install new software. And that is usually where the issues hit which can take someone who knows debian anywhere from a few hours to days to isolate the problem and wait for a fix |
| 11:47.57 | somiaj | Jikai: Quix0r over there seems to have encounterd some strange keyboard loss bug that is having troubles being fixed as another example of unstablity. |
| 11:48.22 | Quix0r | Jikai: better use stable :) |
| 11:48.59 | somiaj | Jikai: run sid because you enjoy the fun of it breaking your computer at random times and you enjoy the challenge of figureing it out, learning and fix it |
| 11:49.12 | Quix0r | brb |
| 11:49.17 | somiaj | Jikai: run stable if you don't want to worry about such things and not let sid get in the way when you want to get work done. (: |
| 11:49.20 | Eryn_1983_FL | i figxed it lol |
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| 11:51.07 | blubberdiblub | !tell Quix0r about aptitude clone |
| 11:51.33 | Quix0r | ? |
| 11:51.35 | Jikai | nkuttler, somiaj, Quix0r: thanks for your advices. |
| 11:51.35 | Jikai | somiaj, Quix0r: stable (Squeeze) is too old for a few packages I absolutely need… What about Wheezy, then? |
| 11:51.59 | Quix0r | Jikai: that was also a reason here for me to use sid/unstable |
| 11:52.02 | blubberdiblub | Quix0r, well, you asked for your package selections to be retained including the automatically installed stuff |
| 11:52.13 | Quix0r | ah |
| 11:52.19 | nkuttler | Jikai: wheezy is frozen. it should be relatively stable |
| 11:52.57 | nkuttler | Jikai: if you can install it properly and all your stuff works you should be ok |
| 11:53.04 | Quix0r | ah, cool |
| 11:53.29 | nkuttler | that wasn't a recommendation to install testing though, i'd never recommend that :) |
| 11:53.31 | Quix0r | now I need somewhere `date` in that shell line and I can "snapshot" my systems weekly ;) |
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| 11:55.05 | blubberdiblub | Quix0r, aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M' > package_list_$(date +%F) |
| 11:55.07 | Gargantua | Quix0r: http://bpaste.net/show/47061 |
| 11:55.12 | Gargantua | Here's a crappy script I wrote yesterday |
| 11:55.16 | Gargantua | fancy it up |
| 11:55.24 | Quix0r | ok |
| 11:56.01 | Gargantua | -z to -d to check if the directory exists, for one |
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| 11:56.11 | Gargantua | and rsync instead of cp |
| 11:56.12 | Gargantua | :P |
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| 11:58.05 | Jikai | OK. Thank you all, guys (and maybe girls), for your quick and clear answers. I'm going to give Wheezy a try, that'll be the best way to see if it fits my needs. |
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| 12:00.43 | tremon | hi all, I want to explore encrypted filetransfer from within the initramfs (don't laugh). Anyone know a lightweight library/app for that |
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| 12:03.20 | Quix0r | "SlowKeys got enabled for no reasons around 992000. I could disable it by holding Shift for 8+ seconds." |
| 12:03.33 | Quix0r | I got it from here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677173#190 |
| 12:03.46 | Quix0r | ah, I might have caused that by pressing shift for longer time |
| 12:04.07 | Quix0r | how can I disable slowkeys (accessibility feature?) now? |
| 12:04.34 | tremon | alternatively, I can just use symmetric encryption and store the key in the initramfs, but that wouldn't be easier since busybox has no encryption support anyway |
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| 12:05.59 | Quix0r | ahh, that causes it! |
| 12:06.20 | Quix0r | slowkeys got enabled by itself (maybe by gdm, which I use) |
| 12:06.28 | Quix0r | so I need to disable it somewhere entirely |
| 12:06.36 | tremon | Quix0r: http://who-t.blogspot.nl/2012/06/xkb-slowkeys.html -- I also remember reading a blog post about it from an X developer, but can't find it |
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| 12:08.16 | Quix0r | now where do i add that? |
| 12:08.27 | Quix0r | i could add it to my .bashrc as work-around |
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| 12:10.25 | boudiccas | Gargantua: this is my backup script which you might find useful http://bpaste.net/show/47066/ |
| 12:11.11 | Gargantua | Wow, sweet, thanks. |
| 12:11.51 | boudiccas | Gargantua: it keeps 15 days worth and then deletes the older ones, so its fairly efficient space-wise |
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| 12:21.26 | Greek-Boy | I want to move my /usr and /home folders into a different partition. How can I do safely do this? Do I have to boot into single user mode? I do not have local access to the server. |
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| 12:22.56 | tremon | Greek-Boy: /home can be done safely in multi-user mode too, as long as no users are logged in (just disable remote access) |
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| 12:23.35 | Greek-Boy | ok... |
| 12:23.51 | Greek-Boy | What about /usr ? |
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| 12:23.57 | tremon | for /usr, the only absolutely safe way is to use a bootdisk/live-cd |
| 12:24.38 | tremon | since that's not an option, duplicating the /usr tree from runlevel 1 and then mounting it over /usr should work |
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| 12:25.19 | Greek-Boy | tremon: Can I do runlevel 1 over the network? |
| 12:25.34 | Quix0r | there is a work-around for that 'freezing keyboard' bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=589953 |
| 12:25.37 | tremon | no, runlevel 1 does not run networking services |
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| 12:26.56 | Quix0r | just add that compiled program to your .bashrc (as I can read it from the comments) |
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| 12:27.15 | tremon | Greek-Boy: but every remote-access tool I know lives in /usr, so if you only have remote access what you're trying to do is going to get hairy anyway |
| 12:27.40 | tremon | (except for serial-over-ip console) |
| 12:27.55 | pawelwx | I am trying to establish wireless connection with internet. I was trying iwconfig eth0 essid myessid and then dhcpcd eth0 but it fails |
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| 12:28.14 | pawelwx | that is Broadcasting is timed out |
| 12:28.26 | Greek-Boy | ok then |
| 12:28.30 | Greek-Boy | Will have to see what I can do |
| 12:28.33 | Greek-Boy | Thank you very much |
| 12:28.47 | pawelwx | Do you have some suggestion what can be source of that problem? |
| 12:29.12 | tremon | pawelwx: the wifi radio is turned off? |
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| 12:29.39 | pawelwx | I guess it is turned on, I can use it nicely on Windows |
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| 12:30.41 | tremon | pawelwx: is the wifi network protected (wep/wpa)? |
| 12:30.45 | pawelwx | yes |
| 12:30.46 | Quix0r | I have added that information to the bug report. I test now if I can still reproduce it |
| 12:30.47 | pawelwx | wpa |
| 12:31.12 | tremon | pawelwx: then you need wpa_supplicant or a gui tool, iwconfig (and iw) don't handle wpa encryption |
| 12:32.00 | pawelwx | ok, thank you very much, so I need combination of iwconfig and wpa_supplicant? |
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| 12:33.06 | tremon | not sure, have only used it years ago (I prefer wired connections). I think wpa_supplicant can do the iwconfig part itself |
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| 12:33.37 | pawelwx | ok, I will read through some documents and make some tries, if it fails then back here for further help, thank you very much for response |
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| 12:34.00 | boudiccas | i currently use gdm3 when i log into my xfce session on wheezy, how do i disable gdm3 and enable xdm please? |
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| 12:34.38 | nkuttler | boudiccas: dpkg-reconfigure one of them |
| 12:34.55 | boudiccas | ok, thanks |
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| 12:43.48 | boudiccas | when doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm3 it shows that i only have gdm3 and lightdm installed, how then do i get xdm please? is it as simple as apt-get install xdm? |
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| 12:48.37 | boudiccas | yes! :) |
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| 12:53.37 | pawelwx | it was possible to establish wireless connection with the internet with usage of wpa_supplicant |
| 12:54.11 | pawelwx | nice surprise, it was already installed and preconfigured on my Linux box, only really small changes was necessary (ssid and wpa) |
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| 12:54.52 | pawelwx | iwconfig is not necessary (you haven't matter about it, perhaps it is used in indirect way) |
| 12:54.59 | pawelwx | thanks for help, i am really excited |
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| 12:55.13 | tremon | thanks for reporting back :) |
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| 12:56.30 | grobda24 | Hi. What happened to #debian-devel (think thats what it was called). Plus, since when did I have to be invited into #debian-next ? |
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| 12:56.42 | grobda24 | understands if you have had problems with trolls, etc |
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| 12:56.51 | tremon | grobda24: -> irc.debian.org aka irc.oftc.net |
| 12:57.06 | grobda24 | tremon: ah, thats it, cheers :) |
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| 12:57.37 | pawelwx | is it possible to use java in links or lynx? |
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| 12:58.09 | tremon | no |
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| 12:59.27 | b43156 | hello guys.. |
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| 13:02.32 | npx | Debian has been getting it so right for so long |
| 13:02.35 | npx | do you guys ever get tired of it? |
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| 13:03.35 | ciao | ciao |
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| 13:03.47 | ciao | list! |
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| 13:07.03 | ciao | ciao |
| 13:07.13 | ciao | list! |
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| 13:10.33 | tremon | lols |
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| 13:32.52 | lolwazp | Hello, what is a repository? |
| 13:32.53 | boudiccas | hi, i just changed my desktop manager from gdm3 to xdm, and now cant get back into my wheezy setup, i tried booting to a recovery mode and just got a back screen. |
| 13:33.16 | boudiccas | i'm now on a live distro f pclinux, how do i get back into gdm3 on wheezy please? |
| 13:33.40 | boudiccas | black screen |
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| 13:35.56 | tremon | boudiccas: mount your / partition, chroot into it, dpkg-reconfigure gdm3 |
| 13:36.25 | boudiccas | tremon: how do i mount it from a black screen, i havent got any prompt at all |
| 13:36.56 | lolwazp | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:37.37 | nkuttler | boudiccas: what do you mean? don't you get a linux console? |
| 13:37.42 | tremon | boudiccas: you get a black screen with the live distro too? |
| 13:37.54 | boudiccas | no, just a totally black screen, no prompt nothing |
| 13:37.59 | specing | lol |
| 13:38.07 | nkuttler | boudiccas: that doesn't sound gdm/xdm related |
| 13:38.10 | boudiccas | no, i'm using the live distro now |
| 13:38.14 | specing | this is hilarious |
| 13:38.30 | nkuttler | specing: please be quiet if you can't help |
| 13:39.04 | nkuttler | boudiccas: do you have another box maybe to ssh into this one? |
| 13:39.59 | boudiccas | i get the grub menu, choose 6.3.0.86 kernel recovery mode, and then just get a black screen with a white square and no prompt. when i press enter the white square shrinks, and if i press enter enough it goes completely leaving me with a totally black square |
| 13:40.01 | biffen_ | hey. I run debian squeeze on a compaq presario cq61. I have recently added a couple of new users to the box. my problem is that when I want to login with some other login then the one that I usually use - the system freezes. just seconds after I have logged in with gdm3 it freezes, no matter if use kdm/openbox/xfce, etc. any ideas what's going on? |
| 13:40.21 | boudiccas | nkuttler: no, just the one box |
| 13:40.51 | boudiccas | totally black screen i mean |
| 13:41.03 | nkuttler | boudiccas: no idea what those squares are supposed to be |
| 13:41.38 | tremon | the white square shrinks upwards? |
| 13:41.45 | boudiccas | yes |
| 13:42.14 | tremon | that might be a splash thingy, although why you'd get that in recovery mode is a mystery |
| 13:42.39 | nkuttler | boudiccas: did you install some boot splash package? |
| 13:42.42 | boudiccas | the white square is in the top left of the screen, the rest of the screen is totally black |
| 13:43.00 | boudiccas | no, just using xfce with hopefully gdm3 |
| 13:43.15 | nkuttler | boudiccas: don't you have another kernel you can try to boot? |
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| 13:43.42 | boudiccas | yesa, i could try the 2.3 branch, but it will still leave me with xdm |
| 13:44.01 | nkuttler | 3.2 i presume. well, still better than not bootable |
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| 13:44.40 | nkuttler | boudiccas: it would help to know if it's a kernel problem or something else |
| 13:45.05 | boudiccas | okay, thanks, i'll try to use another kernel and see if i can get it. i was able to enter my suer and password into xdm login but then just got a black screen with a cursor and nothing else, i left it for about 5 minutes before rebooting |
| 13:45.16 | boudiccas | user |
| 13:45.39 | nkuttler | boudiccas: well xdm expects you to write an ~/.xsession or something else to launch stuff |
| 13:46.00 | boudiccas | ah, well there isnt one, which is why i get nowhere. |
| 13:46.11 | specing | Oh yeah, trying a different kernel is surely going to change stuff... |
| 13:46.29 | Quix0r | so far the keyboard-free bug didn't came back |
| 13:46.31 | nkuttler | boudiccas: just put an exec /path/to/somewm in there before logging in |
| 13:47.11 | boudiccas | nkuttler: how, i just get the xdm login screen all over the screen and nowt else |
| 13:47.24 | specing | nkuttler: that kinda defeats the purpuse of having a login manager... |
| 13:47.24 | nkuttler | boudiccas: ctrl-alt-f1 |
| 13:47.38 | nkuttler | specing: don't talk to me and shut up if you can't be helpful |
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| 13:48.19 | specing | Sorry, I just feel super unhelpfull today |
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| 13:48.34 | specing | goes back to replicating servers |
| 13:49.29 | boudiccas | ok, thanks, i've written it all down, and i'll reboot and try again. thanks all, except for Speccing, i'll deal with you later :) |
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| 13:55.01 | pawelwx | is there console mail client which works directly on the server? I use mutt but it requires fetchmail and hasn't ability to work on server directly. I have googled a bit but I haven't found information about program which would have such ability. |
| 13:55.53 | specing | mail |
| 13:56.03 | julius | omg, how simple ;) |
| 13:56.15 | specing | :) ain't that so! |
| 13:56.47 | nkuttler | pawelwx: hm? just run mutt on the server.. |
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| 13:57.46 | pawelwx | nkuttler how i could do that? I have read through the manual where it was specified clearly that fetchmail or similar program is absolutely necessary to use mutt. However perhaps author was wrong |
| 13:58.02 | nkuttler | pawelwx: do you run your own mailserver? |
| 13:58.12 | nkuttler | pawelwx: you don't need to fetch mail if it's local |
| 13:58.35 | nkuttler | pawelwx: mutt also does imap |
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| 13:59.14 | nkuttler | (and what's so hard about fetchmail anyway) |
| 14:00.07 | pawelwx | I use o2.pl mail server, it isn't mine, it is large and free polish mail server. I have sendmail on my computer but in the fact it isn't installed here for that computer being mail server, but only because fetchmail requires it for work |
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| 14:00.16 | wathek | hi everybody |
| 14:00.35 | wathek | how can I make my debian server automatically reconnect to my wireless network |
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| 14:01.12 | pawelwx | There is not so hard about fetchmail, but my aim is to operate on server directly - I want to have a possibility to delete messages from level of my mail program |
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| 14:01.40 | nkuttler | pawelwx: i do that every day with mutt running on my mailserver |
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| 14:02.08 | pawelwx | then fetchmail is not necessary? |
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| 14:02.45 | nkuttler | pawelwx: no. but i use fetchmail for external addresses i use, like gmail etc |
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| 14:08.16 | dvs | wathek: You probably want to use wpa-roam mode |
| 14:09.38 | pawelwx | wathek you mean situation in which connection fails? |
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| 14:11.36 | wathek | pawelwx, I mean situation in which I need to reboot my access point |
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| 14:12.38 | gernot | pawelwx, to me it sounds like you're looking for an IMAP mail client. Mutt can do IMAP and you don't need fetchmail in that case. Have a look at the mutt wiki. |
| 14:13.48 | pawelwx | but fetchmail is described as IMAP client |
| 14:13.49 | julius | why is there only a i386 but not i686 cd netinst image for debian 6? |
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| 14:14.00 | pawelwx | what is IMAP client which you recommend? |
| 14:14.34 | dvs | julius: There is a i686 kernel |
| 14:14.44 | gernot | pawelwx, sure, fetchmail can access IMAP servers as well. I recommend that you use mutt's built-in IMAP functions, though. It's closer to what you described as your goal, I believe. |
| 14:15.09 | julius | dvs so why not call it i686? |
| 14:15.23 | pawelwx | I even didn't know that there is such possibility, thank you very much, I will try to configure it on my own, back here if my tries fails |
| 14:15.49 | tremon | julius: because the architecture is named i386 |
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| 14:16.25 | julius | i see |
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| 14:18.42 | LikeLakers2 | hello |
| 14:18.49 | LikeLakers2 | does anyone know of any programs that I can use to prevent certain file names from being used? |
| 14:19.01 | LikeLakers2 | tbh, its for a windows thing, so an example of what I mean might be "prevent C:\Users\Owner2 from being created/modified/used" |
| 14:19.07 | tremon | LikeLakers2: "used" ? |
| 14:19.13 | LikeLakers2 | (and also, thats copy-pasted from ##linux btw) |
| 14:19.27 | LikeLakers2 | tremon, or rather, just created/modified |
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| 14:21.15 | tremon | I think the closest you will get is an updatedb hook to automatically remove these files, but I have a hard time thinking of a valid use case |
| 14:21.29 | zxyc | Why do you all use Debian linux is illegal! |
| 14:21.39 | LikeLakers2 | zxyc, orly |
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| 14:21.59 | tremon | zxyc: it's called civil disobedience. Now get lost |
| 14:22.00 | zxyc | my friend who works in PCWorld says so |
| 14:22.00 | LikeLakers2 | tremon, is that a linux thing? |
| 14:22.17 | zxyc | but my friend is computer expert at pcworld.co.uk |
| 14:22.20 | tremon | what's a linux thing? valid use cases? |
| 14:23.00 | maxxe | illegal? |
| 14:23.12 | zxyc | yes linux users are hackers |
| 14:23.19 | LikeLakers2 | tremon, basically, is updatedb a linux hook? |
| 14:23.40 | zxyc | my friend say soand i think so too because why would someone write software for free |
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| 14:24.10 | tremon | LikeLakers2: updatedb is a file indexer, I think you can modify its cron script or read its database, instead of going hunting for those files yourself |
| 14:24.11 | themill | dpkg: tell zxyc about four freedoms |
| 14:24.28 | zxyc | four freedoms? |
| 14:24.31 | LikeLakers2 | well, I'm looking for a windows equiv |
| 14:24.44 | tremon | LikeLakers2: then you shouldn't ask #debian I guess |
| 14:24.49 | themill | LikeLakers2: ##windows perhaps? |
| 14:24.52 | LikeLakers2 | cause no one in ##windows seems to know of a app that does hat |
| 14:25.03 | tremon | of course not, nor do we |
| 14:25.30 | LikeLakers2 | chronik-rootz recommended I ask in here, which is why I did |
| 14:25.59 | themill | LikeLakers2: please offer chronik-rootz a cluebat about channel topics. |
| 14:27.12 | tremon | LikeLakers2: the real question, imho, is "why do your users have write access if you don't trust them" |
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| 14:42.25 | boudiccas | i'm back and still without getting back into wheezy. i've now /lost/ the login completely and am just left with black screen with no prompt after about 10 minutes of waiting |
| 14:42.45 | boudiccas | looks like i will have to reinstall |
| 14:43.04 | ompaul | boudiccas: ctrl alt F2 |
| 14:43.32 | boudiccas | i tried ctrl+alt+f1 with no effect |
| 14:43.41 | ompaul | boudiccas: F2 or higher |
| 14:44.21 | boudiccas | then exec /home/boztu/, and then dpkg-reconfigure gdm3? |
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| 14:45.04 | ompaul | did you get in? |
| 14:45.22 | boudiccas | no, i'm on a live distro of pclinux atm |
| 14:45.25 | boudiccas | but will now try |
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| 14:47.08 | ompaul | boudiccas: there are two things I would do right now, first I would mount the partition with /etc on it, then I would change the name the /etc/x11/xorg.conf before I reboot |
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| 14:52.51 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 14:53.17 | Mazingaro | please I need help to configure microphone on presariocq60 + kernel 3.2.0-3 |
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| 14:55.00 | boudiccas | ctrl+alt+f2 just gives me a totally black screen with no prompt, nothing |
| 14:55.09 | nkuttler | boudiccas: wait, does your kernel actually boot? |
| 14:55.37 | nkuttler | boudiccas: as in is there disk activity, anything logged to the screen, or something? |
| 14:55.38 | boudiccas | yes, to a black screen, i dont know how far it gets, i get no login screen at all |
| 14:55.55 | nkuttler | boudiccas: you tried a different kernel, right? |
| 14:56.00 | boudiccas | thats with /both/kernels |
| 14:56.35 | nkuttler | boudiccas: what kind of graphics driver did you use? |
| 14:56.44 | boudiccas | nouveau |
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| 14:57.47 | nkuttler | boudiccas: hm, never had problems with that, but i'd blacklist the module anyway and try vesa or something |
| 14:58.14 | nkuttler | boudiccas: i've seen the proprietary nvidia driver break the console |
| 14:58.27 | nkuttler | and fglrx as well iirc |
| 14:58.36 | boudiccas | i cant, i dont get any prompt so i'm just entering commands blind with no feedback. i dont know where i am and cant see what i'm doing |
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| 14:58.47 | nkuttler | boudiccas: no no, with your rescue cd |
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| 14:59.22 | nkuttler | boudiccas: mount the partition, create /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf, blacklist nouveau |
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| 14:59.25 | boudiccas | thats the one thing i havent tried, i've got a squeeze install disc, i can try getting into rescue from there |
| 14:59.44 | nkuttler | boudiccas: i thought you're using the box right now? |
| 14:59.58 | boudiccas | yes, a live distro of pclinuxos |
| 15:00.07 | nkuttler | boudiccas: so just mount your partition |
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| 15:00.20 | boudiccas | from the distro? |
| 15:00.32 | nkuttler | mount your root partition from the live cd |
| 15:00.42 | gedO | Hello, who can help me to make samba sahred folder accessable from remote addresess? |
| 15:00.53 | nkuttler | gedO: people in #samba? |
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| 15:01.11 | gedO | nkuttler: No good, everyone silent there |
| 15:01.29 | gedO | nkuttler: How I should open ports for that? |
| 15:01.51 | nkuttler | boudiccas: btw, this is just a wild guess. your problem should start earlier in the boot process as you don't see anything logged |
| 15:02.06 | nkuttler | gedO: how did you close ports? |
| 15:02.38 | gedO | nkuttler: Samba ports isn't open by default |
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| 15:02.43 | nkuttler | !tell boudiccas about nodm |
| 15:02.56 | nkuttler | boudiccas: disabling the dm might also leave you with a visible prompt, who knows |
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| 15:03.38 | nkuttler | gedO: debian doesn't block any ports by default |
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| 15:05.15 | nkuttler | boudiccas: it might also be udev-related, but again, this shouldn't affect the early boot process |
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| 15:07.52 | boudiccas | okay, i've got a terminal now that i can see and edit, whats next please? |
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| 15:08.54 | nkuttler | boudiccas: great! how did you manage to do that? |
| 15:09.23 | boudiccas | trial and erro to find a terminal in this distro and then changing the profile so it was black on white |
| 15:09.35 | nkuttler | er |
| 15:09.43 | nkuttler | wait, you're still in your live cd? |
| 15:09.49 | boudiccas | yes |
| 15:10.00 | nkuttler | do you know how to mount partitions? |
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| 15:10.18 | boudiccas | i've entered mount but it doesnt show my h/d |
| 15:10.52 | nkuttler | boudiccas: cat /proc/partitions , paste.debian.net |
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| 15:11.16 | boudiccas | can i paste in a channel, ? #paste |
| 15:11.22 | nkuttler | boudiccas: #flood |
| 15:11.31 | boudiccas | okay, thanks |
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| 15:14.59 | mrtnt | Is it possible to view the size of the DVD? I mean "ls -l /dev/sr0" obviously does not work. |
| 15:15.32 | nkuttler | mrtnt: is it mounted? |
| 15:15.34 | kwork | mrtnt: mount it? |
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| 15:16.09 | kwork | mrtnt: multiplayer irc "üle mitme võrgu ja nime" |
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| 15:19.20 | jhutchins_wk | mrtnt: They tend to be a standardized size regardless of content. |
| 15:20.09 | tremon | yeah, they're about 12cm |
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| 15:20.11 | tremon | ducks |
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| 15:21.50 | mrtnt | nkuttler, kwork: no it's not mounted. I thought maybe there is a way to view DVD size without mounting it :) |
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| 15:22.02 | mrtnt | nkuttler, kwork I'll mount it. |
| 15:22.25 | tremon | mrtnt: dvd authoring software may be able to do that, but I think they just mount it internally |
| 15:22.51 | mrtnt | tremon, ok |
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| 15:41.07 | mrtnt | nkuttler, kwork, tremon: I would like to burn DVD in a way that I read in from /dev/sr0 and then forward this traffic over SSH to another machine to wodim program. The thing is, that I need to specify track size for wodim(tsize option). In case of ISO I can do "ls -l isofile" for size. I guess for physical disks it's best to do "df /dev/sr0" for size? |
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| 15:46.54 | tremon | mrtnt: have you tried df /dev/sr0 ? |
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| 15:48.48 | adrelanos | Is this article about "Read-only bind mounts" https://lwn.net/Articles/281157/ still current? |
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| 15:49.46 | adrelanos | I used: mount --bind /vital_data /untrusted_container/vital_data ; mount -o remount,ro /untrusted_container/vital_data |
| 15:49.54 | adrelanos | but got mount: file busy |
| 15:50.29 | urmet | Hi. If I install some software from backports will it later be automatically updated to the latest backports version? |
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| 15:56.46 | SoobNauce | I installed debian via netinst cd/usb but it only gave the computer a "deb cdrom:" line, there don't seem to be any internet sources such as what I have on my (ubuntu) netbook, "deb http://security.ubuntu.com" -- is there some list of the basic debian repos I can go to, in order to do small things such as installing telnet, links, gpa, awesome, and google-chrome? |
| 15:57.19 | themill | dpkg: tell SoobNauce about make squeeze sources.list |
| 15:57.23 | SoobNauce | (tldr the /etc/apt/sources.list is slightly borked) |
| 15:57.25 | SoobNauce | thanks themill |
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| 15:59.05 | SoobNauce | ahh now it's pulling updates perfectly, thanks very much themill |
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| 15:59.12 | themill | np |
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| 16:53.23 | Xtreme | guys how to flush dns? |
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| 16:55.12 | makoto | shouldn't need to flush dns iirc as debian doesn't cache it by default, unless you've got something different in place |
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| 16:55.51 | Xtreme | makoto, well,, i would love to have something like that :) |
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| 16:57.55 | makoto | Xtreme: if your debian is pretty much stock debian with nothing caching dns for you, any caching would be done upstream (perhaps your router, or ISP's dns server) |
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| 16:58.23 | Xtreme | router.. argh.. how did i forget that jerk |
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| 16:58.59 | Xtreme | hey guys, can anyone suggest me a good caching app? |
| 16:59.11 | makoto | I like my router as it's got a button to instantly clear the dns cache |
| 16:59.20 | folivora | Xtreme: for dns ? |
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| 16:59.31 | Xtreme | dns and webcache |
| 16:59.31 | makoto | but before i had that router, i used to run an caching dns server on my server with bind |
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| 16:59.46 | folivora | Xtreme: bind9 + squid |
| 16:59.48 | folivora | :p |
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| 17:02.10 | Xtreme | folivora, what about nscd? |
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| 17:04.27 | makoto | anyone know if i can move windows between X displays, and if it can be done, how? |
| 17:06.04 | Xtreme | i am installing squid 3 + squid client :) |
| 17:06.25 | hasdf | what desktop interface is best on this crappy machine? http://pastebin.ws/674u4t |
| 17:06.43 | themill | makoto: if you run the program inside xpra, yes. |
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| 17:07.28 | folivora | hasdf: xfce4 |
| 17:07.52 | folivora | quite lightweight |
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| 17:08.28 | hasdf | thx, I'll give it a try :) |
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| 17:18.21 | _martin | why is the debian iso image called amd64 and not intel64? |
| 17:18.36 | babilen | !tell _martin about why amd64 |
| 17:18.38 | Sm0ke0ut | because the architecture is made by amd, not intel |
| 17:18.54 | _martin | thanks! |
| 17:18.57 | babilen | np |
| 17:19.05 | AlexLikeRock | because AMD create first the proccesor 64 bits |
| 17:19.37 | Sm0ke0ut | not persé. but the AMD architecture seemed to be more efficient |
| 17:19.51 | Sm0ke0ut | so intel dropped theirs :) |
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| 17:21.08 | _martin | will debian 6.0.5 recognize my wlan interface autmaticlly? I got a broadcom chipset |
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| 17:22.51 | babilen | _martin: You almost certainly need firmware ("/msg dpkg broadcom firmware" "/msg dpkg firmware") and you might need a newer kernel. Do you know which device it is exactly? |
| 17:22.59 | babilen | !tell _martin -about broadcom |
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| 17:23.58 | _martin | hmm i have to look up |
| 17:24.57 | _martin | Broadcom Corporation BCM43225 802.11b/g/n (rev 01) |
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| 17:25.41 | babilen | _martin: Sorry, I have to go. I would recommend to ask the bot (dpkg) about <introduction> <ig> <netinst> <installer firmware> <kmuto> <b43> <broadcom firmware>. Good books/tutorials comprise <debian handbook> <reference> and <general cli tutorial> -- Good luck! :) |
| 17:25.53 | _martin | thanks |
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| 17:30.25 | babilen | _martin: Ok. That device is a little pesky. I would read http://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211 and try it with the kernel in stable/squeeze. If that doesn't really work that well you can try a backported kernel (<backports> <bdo> <bdo kernel>) with the brcmsmac module. Make sure that if you use backports to not only install the kernel from there, but also the firmware-brcm80211 package. For that you need to make sure that you "deb" line for backports ... |
| 17:30.31 | babilen | ... ends in "main contrib non-free". Good luck! |
| 17:30.37 | babilen | bbl |
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| 17:32.42 | SiDz | Hi, i have a service that fail too start at boot, but i have no time to see the name of the service... the login popup too quick. tryed to install bootlogd, but i dont see the service failing in /var/log/boot... all service are ok |
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| 17:33.02 | SiDz | so my question is, how can i log the boot more than bootlogd did it? |
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| 17:34.17 | xand | SiDz: try dmesg? |
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| 17:35.18 | SiDz | tryed already:| |
| 17:35.34 | somiaj | what sort of info are you looking for in the log? |
| 17:35.39 | somiaj | and dmesg is just /var/log/messages |
| 17:35.42 | SiDz | i have just the time to see the RED fail... no time to read |
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| 17:35.53 | SiDz | im looking to see what fail |
| 17:36.14 | somiaj | those are services I belive. Do y ou know what services you are running? |
| 17:36.50 | SiDz | well i know what service im running, and everything seems to run fine |
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| 17:38.33 | somiaj | well you could do 'service --status-all' to see all the init.d services |
| 17:39.10 | somiaj | you could also change your run level forcing the services to stop/start to see which ones are running, but I am trying to think of a way to actually log the service part of teh init process outside of their indivudial logs |
| 17:39.40 | somiaj | it could also be that an init.d script is giving a bad exit code (despite the service running properly) |
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| 17:41.02 | SiDz | http://pastebin.com/dWTYAZri |
| 17:41.23 | Xtreme | guys i am using squid on debian. |
| 17:41.41 | hotwings | trying to set a preseed for proftpd with ''debconf-set-selections proftpd-basic shared/proftpd/inetd_or_standalone select from inetd'' but im getting "Can't open proftpd-basic: No such file or directory at /usr/bin/debconf-set-selections line 117." anyone know what im doing wrong? |
| 17:41.42 | Xtreme | i am getting same erro http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2012-January/122594.html >> marformed dns.. but i am only getting for google |
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| 17:41.47 | somiaj | SiDz: webmin...:( |
| 17:41.47 | Xtreme | so can anyone please shed some light? |
| 17:41.53 | SiDz | lol |
| 17:42.01 | SiDz | it's listening to local only |
| 17:42.01 | somiaj | though maybe I'm thinking something else |
| 17:42.10 | somiaj | !webmin |
| 17:42.11 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 . The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality. See <free whcp> for alternatives. |
| 17:42.15 | SiDz | i know i know:P |
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| 17:42.23 | SiDz | im planing to removing it soon |
| 17:42.27 | SiDz | as i dnt use it anyway |
| 17:42.59 | somiaj | well that is the list of all your services, it is one of those that is failing. You can check them all with service restart 'name' |
| 17:43.11 | SiDz | the service that fail / or have a bad exit code.. is one who's coming just before tty load |
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| 17:43.16 | SiDz | or i dont know how to call it |
| 17:43.21 | SiDz | just before the login popup |
| 17:43.36 | somiaj | SiDz: ls /etc/rc2.d -- so it is going to be one of them that have the highest number |
| 17:44.02 | somiaj | SiDz: since that is what controls the order. Not all will give you that ok/fail message, but you can narrow it down that way. It is one of the later services being run |
| 17:44.13 | Xtreme | anyone? |
| 17:44.14 | somiaj | it should fail again if you restart that service |
| 17:45.31 | somiaj | Xtreme: sure it isn't a dns issue, have you tried 'host google.com' or various sites to see what dns on your system is finding |
| 17:45.39 | jhutchins_wk | Xtreme: No idea, not enough information, you may be getting a bad response from your dns sever (malformed dns). |
| 17:46.14 | Xtreme | somiaj, yes, all other sites are working fine. except google |
| 17:46.28 | Mazingaro | please help, |
| 17:46.29 | Xtreme | jhutchins_wk, i can give all info you want :) |
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| 17:46.52 | SiDz | if i try an init 6? |
| 17:46.58 | jhutchins_wk | SiDz: You may find that the scroll lock or pause key will freeze the screen. |
| 17:47.00 | SiDz | will i see the fail in ssh console? |
| 17:47.03 | Mazingaro | got problem with presario cq 60 microphone on wheezy |
| 17:47.12 | SiDz | well its a java console from On Apps |
| 17:47.14 | SiDz | its a vps |
| 17:47.22 | Xtreme | jhutchins_wk, should i try a reboot? |
| 17:47.28 | Xtreme | you think that makes any sense? |
| 17:47.41 | jhutchins_wk | Xtreme: I would guess that your dns provider or your dns cache has a bad entry for google. Not knowing what you're using to resolve dns I don't know where to tell you to start. |
| 17:48.01 | jhutchins_wk | Xtreme: Almost never in Linux. |
| 17:48.21 | jhutchins_wk | Xtreme: Figure out what service has the problem and restart that service. |
| 17:48.52 | Xtreme | jhutchins_wk, will try a reboot. let everything restart |
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| 17:49.08 | Xtreme | brb |
| 17:49.21 | Xtreme | argh, i am uploading files on gtp |
| 17:49.22 | Xtreme | ftp* |
| 17:49.23 | Xtreme | i cant |
| 17:49.52 | jhutchins_wk | Xtreme: What are you using for dns |
| 17:49.53 | jhutchins_wk | ? |
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| 17:50.12 | Xtreme | nscd |
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| 17:50.21 | Xtreme | i tried turning it off. no luck |
| 17:50.26 | somiaj | try commenting out your dns servers and say put 8.8.8.8 in your /etc/resolv.conf to see if you get better response from googles nameserver |
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| 17:50.58 | jhutchins_wk | somiaj: Actually, since he's using a local caching daemon, I would restart that instead. |
| 17:51.01 | Xtreme | somiaj, okay, one sec :) |
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| 17:51.10 | jhutchins_wk | Xtreme: Do you understand what nscd does? |
| 17:51.16 | somiaj | yea I'm just now getting use to nscd |
| 17:51.24 | Xtreme | jhutchins_wk, yes. and i have turned it off now.. |
| 17:51.25 | somiaj | I didn't think squeeze had that, so maybe he is running into a testing issue |
| 17:51.53 | somiaj | ahh guess it is in squeeze, just is now being installed with other packages in sid for me |
| 17:51.53 | jhutchins_wk | somiaj: Yeah, I think it's been around for a while. Might be a default on newer installs. |
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| 17:52.40 | jhutchins_wk | Xtreme: So expect bad cached info first, fix that (you did, you turned it off), then try switching namesevers like somaj said. |
| 17:52.55 | jhutchins_wk | Test each change so you know what fixes it. |
| 17:53.03 | Xtreme | jhutchins_wk, one sec. working on it :) |
| 17:53.10 | jhutchins_wk | Change one thing at a time, keep notes. |
| 17:54.21 | Xtreme | guys resolv.conf nameserver 8.8.8.8.. okay. now do i have to restart anything? |
| 17:54.29 | Xtreme | nscd is off. not starting it :) |
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| 17:54.59 | somiaj | nope you don't have to restart anything, just change resolv.conf (and make sure you don't have any other nameservers in there, i suggest commenting out your current ones) |
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| 17:56.16 | Xtreme | somiaj, okay. did exactly what you said. now testing :) |
| 17:56.31 | lnostdal | hi guys, i just installed debian testing and i'm wondering what sort of desktop i'm running here .. perhaps a weird question, but things are so confusing these days .. am i running a standard Gnome 3.x with Gnome Shell? .. there seems to be some sort of Gnome Panel here, but i didn't think Gnome 3 had that sort of thing? it cannot be Xfce (Debian 7.x?) as far as i can tell .. |
| 17:56.39 | somiaj | again test with 'host google.com' -- make sure your dns info is correct before going to squid Xtreme |
| 17:57.13 | somiaj | lnostdal: depends, debian provides choice, what desktop did you install. gnome3 is default, though I think there is a fall back mode for older hardware |
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| 17:57.34 | zleslie | Howdy. Anyone else seeing chromium segfault on wheezy killing X? |
| 17:57.35 | somiaj | lnostdal: you can use dpkg -l | less to see what packages are installed |
| 17:57.39 | Xtreme | somiaj test with host google.com == load http://www.google.com from firefox right? without any cache server? (sorry for dump question, but new to this world) |
| 17:57.59 | somiaj | Xtreme: 'host google.com' -- you just want the dns info, type that command into a console |
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| 17:58.43 | Xtreme | yes. i am getting everything correct :) thanks.. i got all the proper response :) |
| 17:58.45 | samael | hi |
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| 17:58.56 | Xtreme | somiaj, thanks for explaining :) |
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| 17:59.03 | lnostdal | somiaj: ok, this is the default "Desktop Environment" from the Debian installer |
| 17:59.04 | Xtreme | now i will try in firefox with no squid, no nscd |
| 17:59.15 | lnostdal | somiaj: but i don't recall gnome shell looking like this at all .. weird |
| 17:59.16 | Xtreme | lnostdal, xfce? |
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| 17:59.32 | Xtreme | okay, everything fine without squid. |
| 17:59.40 | Xtreme | now firing squid |
| 17:59.45 | lduros | hi, from the shell, is there a way to launch a GUI program without launching a window manager? |
| 17:59.47 | lnostdal | Xtreme: i was thinking i'd get xfce too .. since this was the "testing" installer .. but this doesn't look like xfce at all .. heh |
| 17:59.54 | somiaj | lnostdal: I don't run gnome so no clue what it looks. I just know there is a fallback mode for older hardware, maybe you trigered that. |
| 18:00.03 | lnostdal | somiaj: (sorr) i was thinking i'd get xfce too .. since this was the "testing" installer .. but this doesn't look like xfce at all .. heh |
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| 18:00.12 | lnostdal | somiaj: yeah.. |
| 18:00.14 | somiaj | lnostdal: the default is gnome3 |
| 18:00.20 | lnostdal | ok |
| 18:00.34 | somiaj | lnostdal: again I don't select 'desktop enviorment' when I install and manually install the desktop/packges I want with apt-get/aptitude |
| 18:00.56 | somiaj | so really no clue what you have installed, but you can look up what the tasks install. Just look up tasksel on the wiki. |
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| 18:01.43 | somiaj | tasksel --task-packages desktop | sort -u |
| 18:01.45 | Xtreme | somiaj, jhutchins_wk everything fine.. i am getting google.com (but i cant see any update in cache.,. but thats for later ) |
| 18:01.47 | somiaj | that will tell ya what packages you installed. |
| 18:01.49 | Xtreme | now firing up nscd |
| 18:01.59 | somiaj | Xtreme: yea it was just a dns issue. (: |
| 18:02.11 | samael | brand new laptop, installed debian via DI image/testing then updated to sid and installed xorg and all the rest. now it freezes randomly and completely (i.e. no c-a-d, no sysreq). logs do not help, i configured rsyslog to log remotely via tcp but it dies silently. how can i investigate further? |
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| 18:02.50 | Xtreme | somiaj, cool. now last test. nscd turned on :) |
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| 18:04.44 | Xtreme | somiaj, so my router is fucked? |
| 18:05.21 | somiaj | samael: welcome to sid, thinks break and may not work. #debian-next on irc.oftc.net is the offical help channel for such things. I cannot think of things to test except try to figure out what is causing the freeze, and play around until you narrow it down |
| 18:06.49 | Xtreme | guys how many dns server can i have in resolv.conf file? |
| 18:07.01 | Xtreme | and what if i add more then 1, will my performace incrase? |
| 18:08.01 | Xtreme | somiaj, ^^ |
| 18:08.27 | somiaj | you can have as many as you want, and it goes though them in order |
| 18:08.43 | Wyzard | Xtreme: According to "man resolv.conf", you can have 3 |
| 18:08.46 | somiaj | but there is a timeout for each one before it goes onto the next, so if there is a lot and the first bunch are bad you just really slow down resolving. |
| 18:09.29 | somiaj | ahh yea more than 3 would be silly, didn't realize there was a max, you could change it by changing MAXNS and recompile things |
| 18:09.31 | Wyzard | The second and third are only used if the first one is unavailable, so they won't improve performance |
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| 18:10.00 | danter | hey guys |
| 18:10.03 | Wyzard | What they do is allow your DNS to continue working even if one of the servers goes down |
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| 18:10.22 | danter | i have a vps running debian on an openvz server. Im running into network issue |
| 18:10.30 | danter | I can ssh fine into the vps, but can't reach externally from it |
| 18:10.58 | Xtreme | somiaj, 1) google, 2) verizon 2) opendns,. is the order and providers okay? |
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| 18:11.35 | danter | anyone have experience with vzctl...etc ? |
| 18:11.44 | Wyzard | Xtreme: If you're a Verizon customer, it'd probably be better to use the Verizon one first, because it's likely to be closer to you on the network and able to respond more quickly |
| 18:12.05 | SiDz | well verry annoying, never have the time to read the problem |
| 18:12.10 | SiDz | and it's not logged anywhere |
| 18:12.11 | Xtreme | Wyzard, nope i am now.. but my dns which my isp provides is kind of sucks.. |
| 18:12.16 | Xtreme | we had a lot of issue with it now |
| 18:12.16 | Wyzard | Xtreme: As for having OpenDNS third, do you really think Verizon's and Google's DNS servers are going to go down at the same time, so that you need another fallback? |
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| 18:12.30 | drewprod | hi all |
| 18:13.12 | danter | Reconfiguring network interfaces...SIOCADDRT: File exists Failed to bring up venet0. |
| 18:13.13 | Xtreme | Wyzard, i just added it ;) and i have nscd. so i hope after first resolve i wont have sleep issue.. what you guys think? |
| 18:13.20 | Xtreme | brb |
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| 18:13.49 | danter | is there a way to find out why its failing to startup ? |
| 18:13.50 | drewprod | i need help for remove a file ... chmod 777 <file> => filesystem is read only ... |
| 18:13.50 | danter | venet0 that is |
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| 18:14.05 | julius_ | hi |
| 18:14.19 | Wyzard | drewprod: Where is the file? |
| 18:14.33 | julius_ | is there a way to get into the netinstaller from another remote system after it was already started and continue the install? |
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| 18:14.45 | samael | somiaj: i'm using sid since the potato release :) tryin' to narrow down around the problem as you suggest, was just searching for different opinions here. thanks anyyway! |
| 18:14.50 | drewprod | on my sd card but for mounting => mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /mnt -o rw |
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| 18:15.14 | SiDz | im having an error at boot, just before the login popups.. so it change screen, i have no time to read the error.. tryed about 10 times... bootlogd isn't logging the error, error isn't in dmesg or /var/log/messages |
| 18:15.18 | Wyzard | drewprod: If you told it to mount rw but it's mounted ro anyway, check the card's write-protect switch (if it has one) |
| 18:15.19 | SiDz | any idea? |
| 18:15.34 | drewprod | Wyzard: no switch ... microSd |
| 18:15.50 | drewprod | i can put files or folders |
| 18:16.05 | drewprod | i can't remove one file ... |
| 18:16.05 | Wyzard | Oh, I see your problem |
| 18:16.20 | drewprod | true ? |
| 18:16.22 | Wyzard | You're trying to chmod, but your filesystem is vfat, which doesn't actually support file permissions |
| 18:16.43 | Wyzard | The permissions you see are simulated by the vfat driver, which is why you can't change them |
| 18:17.02 | drewprod | so do you know a solution ? |
| 18:17.26 | drewprod | can i format ? |
| 18:17.29 | Wyzard | ("read-only filesystem" isn't a very descriptive error code for that situation, but the set of possible error codes from system calls is limited) |
| 18:17.42 | Wyzard | If you want to delete the file, just delete it; you don't need to change its permissions first |
| 18:18.00 | drewprod | i can't delete it ... |
| 18:18.02 | Wyzard | You *can't* change file permissions on vfat -- it doesn't make sense to do so, because there are none |
| 18:18.12 | drewprod | i remember know |
| 18:18.32 | drewprod | but i can delete a folder, an another file, but not this file |
| 18:18.45 | Wyzard | What happens when you try to delete it? |
| 18:18.54 | SiDz | Sep 23 14:10:38 DonSiD dbus[2455]: avc: netlink poll: error 4 |
| 18:19.02 | drewprod | i paste it :) wait |
| 18:19.02 | SiDz | seems like it could be my error? |
| 18:19.42 | drewprod | filesystem is read only ... |
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| 18:20.02 | Wyzard | Have you tried deleting it as root? |
| 18:20.09 | drewprod | yes |
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| 18:20.21 | drewprod | with suso & root |
| 18:20.24 | drewprod | sudo* |
| 18:20.53 | superlinux-hp | please name me a software like teamviewer but for the command line. ssh needs router configuration |
| 18:20.53 | Wyzard | I don't know what'd cause that, then... I'd check dmesg for error messages from the kernel, in case the vfat driver is confused by filesystem corruption or something |
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| 18:21.11 | drewprod | filesystem is corrupt => yes i know ... |
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| 18:21.37 | drewprod | some file is corrupt ... |
| 18:21.38 | Wyzard | If you're working with a corrupted filesystem, you should've mentioned that from the start |
| 18:21.40 | drewprod | files* |
| 18:21.51 | Wyzard | Back up the other files and reformat the card |
| 18:22.08 | drewprod | ok the last solution :) |
| 18:22.28 | drewprod | if the format rulz .. |
| 18:22.30 | Wyzard | It'd be a good idea to do something like a badblocks test too, to find out whether the corruption is due to a problem with the card itself |
| 18:22.54 | drewprod | i've format 3 times => Windows , Phone (android) ... |
| 18:23.15 | Wyzard | Seems likely that the card is going bad, then |
| 18:23.16 | drewprod | Why not |
| 18:23.38 | drewprod | do not copy file from windows system to a phone sd card ! |
| 18:23.40 | Wyzard | Flash memory can wear out if it's rewritten lots of times |
| 18:24.03 | drewprod | no just put off phone on windows copie ... |
| 18:24.25 | drewprod | Wyzard: thx a lot :) |
| 18:24.40 | Wyzard | If you're having these problems even after reformatting the card several times, it sounds like a hardware problem with the card, not data corruption caused by Windows writing to it |
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| 18:26.06 | julius_ | is there a way to get into the netinstaller from another remote system after it was already started and continue the install? |
| 18:26.22 | drewprod | Wyzard: i see, but what's doing if i start a format on filesystem read-only ? it failed !! So i ca'nt have solution ... |
| 18:27.25 | Wyzard | I'm not quite sure I understand what you're saying, but you need to unmount the card before you run mkfs on it |
| 18:27.38 | Wyzard | and if it's a hardware problem, formatting won't help -- you need to buy a new card |
| 18:28.06 | drewprod | Wyzard: for umount i know :) |
| 18:28.28 | drewprod | and for buy a new card know too ... |
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| 18:30.09 | SiDz | somiaj you we're right about the bad exit |
| 18:30.15 | SiDz | it's danted init.d script |
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| 18:30.36 | SiDz | finaly been able to read |
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| 18:31.00 | drewprod | Wyzard: umount /dev/sdb1 => segfault ... it's cool ... |
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| 18:31.52 | Wyzard | hmm... umount shouldn't segfault, even if the filesystem is corrupted |
| 18:31.57 | Wyzard | There may be something else going on |
| 18:32.17 | Wyzard | (umount doesn't actually interact with the card at all; it just asks the kernel to unmount it) |
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| 18:34.29 | drewprod | Wyzard: it's ok ... rm process failed ... -_-' |
| 18:35.02 | somiaj | SiDz: yea those [ ok ] and [ fails ] are just init.d scripts, I don't think it logs that info anywhere as it leaves it up to the actual service itself ot make its own logs if needed. |
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| 18:35.34 | SiDz | the service is starting, didnt had the time to read the error |
| 18:35.39 | SiDz | but i know its danted |
| 18:35.45 | SiDz | remove it, problem fixed |
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| 18:38.55 | SiDz | but bootlogd is useless |
| 18:39.13 | SiDz | it should log everything from begining to end of boot. |
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| 18:39.42 | SiDz | bad exit from init script also, no matter if the init start |
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| 18:40.15 | jhutchins_wk | 234 |
| 18:40.25 | markovh | what ist the program/package used in the debian install cd for going through all the menus like language/keyboard/location/partition creator etc |
| 18:40.29 | markovh | is* |
| 18:40.29 | jhutchins_wk | . |
| 18:40.36 | jhutchins_wk | Sorry. |
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| 18:41.06 | jhutchins_wk | !ssh install |
| 18:41.06 | dpkg | from memory, ssh install is http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06s03#network-console (obsolete article at http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html). See also <hd-media>, <debootstrap>. |
| 18:41.14 | jhutchins_wk | julius_: ^ |
| 18:42.28 | jhutchins_wk | SiDz: Some of that is logged to dmesg, but yes, there's useful info displayed at boot that isn't logged anywhere, and the only way to figure it out sometimes is to walk through the init script one line at a time. |
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| 18:44.46 | julius_ | jhutchins_wk, if i start from "scratch" that helps |
| 18:45.10 | julius_ | was hoping do to screen -r on a remote system that is nearer the system that is being installed :( |
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| 18:45.48 | julius_ | anyway, cant be that many steps after the netinstall downloaded all the packages or? |
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| 18:58.55 | mmc1 | does ${shlibs:Depends} enforce some minimal version? |
| 18:59.11 | mmc1 | or rather "force" |
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| 19:08.22 | jhutchins_wk | julius_: I don't think a default net install enables the ssh server. |
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| 19:12.46 | kab0naresuzu | Hi, I am using NFS to mount a network drive. However, one of the desktops went down, so I installed a GUI on the server to use as a temporary replacement desktop (there was 1 server and 2 desktops, now only 1 server/desktop and 1 desktop). |
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| 19:13.10 | kab0naresuzu | NFS is using nobody:nogroup as the ownership permissions. |
| 19:13.25 | kab0naresuzu | I have this user (the user on the server/desktop) with the uid 1000:1000. |
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| 19:14.10 | kab0naresuzu | However, when I create a file on the directory of nobody:nogroup from this account, it creates a file owned by this user and this account. I cannot write-access the file from the otehr machine because of the ownership. |
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| 19:14.31 | kab0naresuzu | I tried a temporary fix: escalate to root, chown -R nobody:nogroup /mnt/docs/* |
| 19:14.41 | kab0naresuzu | However, it says I do not have permissions to change ownership. |
| 19:14.55 | kab0naresuzu | I am looking into the Linux sticky Bit. Does anyone have any suggestions? |
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| 19:16.05 | habstinat | So I installed Debian in a chroot on my Android phone. I'm now connected to and running from that chroot on my PC, as my Android phone is plugged into my PC. Command line things work fine, but I'm having trouble starting an X server. After typing "export DISPLAY=:0.0", I can run graphical apps such as x-window-manager but I'm not sure where I would go to see them on a screen. Where would I look to see a graphical app running in t |
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| 19:18.35 | ompaul | habstinat: it got cut at: running in t |
| 19:19.02 | habstinat | ompaul: running in these circumstances? |
| 19:19.09 | kab0naresuzu | habstinat: $ ps -e | grep X11 |
| 19:19.13 | kab0naresuzu | habstinat: $ ps -e | grep gdm |
| 19:19.17 | kab0naresuzu | habstinat: $ ps -e | grep x11 |
| 19:19.44 | kab0naresuzu | habstinat: It depends on what window manager you are using in your xorg.conf. Use $ ps -e | grep *windowmanagername* |
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| 19:20.44 | hasdf | is there a list what packages are on wich installer cd? |
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| 19:21.02 | mmc1 | kab0naresuzu: do you use only 1 uid (on the nfs-client) to access files over NFS? |
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| 19:22.00 | Sm0ke0ut | hasdf: probably somewhere, though I'd suggest (if possible) to use the online sources to get your packages/latest versions |
| 19:22.32 | ompaul | kab0naresuzu: you have no specific question yet, you have described two computers, and nfs but not what is exporting to what, what it is exporting and a really stupid question on my part if S1 exports /d/ why isn't S2 mounting it the say the original desktop doing it -- have you restarted the exporting box |
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| 19:22.35 | hasdf | ah got it... hidden on the debian site.. |
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| 19:22.48 | mmc1 | kab0naresuzu: http://leiron.be/infodocs/linux-mapping.html. If more, I don't know if such a arbitrary mapping of UIDs is implemented. One might also use sshfs as a (quick) workaround. |
| 19:23.28 | hasdf | Sm0ke0ut, I'd like to use the online sources, but no ethernet connection here :P |
| 19:23.42 | Sm0ke0ut | ah bummer |
| 19:23.56 | ompaul | kab0naresuzu: I've to leave now - will be gone a while - no point in talking to me talk to the channel |
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| 19:24.31 | kab0naresuzu | ompaul: thanks |
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| 19:25.19 | ElDelQuinto | hello all |
| 19:25.28 | ElDelQuinto | i have a question of Asus Trace Free technology, by default is 20%, is it better with 100%? |
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| 19:31.40 | habstinat | kab0naresuzu: OK, so this was the output when grepping openbox: "14403 pts/0 00:00:00 openbox" What does that tell us? |
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| 19:35.06 | habstinat | kab0naresuzu: I am getting "Openbox-Message: Failed to open the display from the DISPLAY environment variable." every once in a while. |
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| 19:36.47 | markovh | I have an old laptop with debian 6 installed. It appears it isn't picking up the wifi card. Ubuntu live cd does though, i assume it's a non free driver of some sort. I've installed firmware-linux-nonfree and it still isn't detecting it, any idea what the most likely packages would be to install |
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| 19:41.04 | BenNZ | markovh: it would depend on the wifi card , ie you might need firmware-ralink , firmware-realtek , firmware-iwlwifi, firmware-atheros , b43-fwcutter etc etc |
| 19:41.37 | markovh | BenNZ: i think i might have figured it from scanning dmesg 2 secs |
| 19:43.11 | markovh | apparently firmware-ipw2x00, in future is there no way to just automatically try detect what needs to be installed or one package that'll just install all of them |
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| 19:43.41 | no_gravity | Hey People! What do you use to play music, manage playlists etc? cmus? |
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| 19:44.25 | ksuhku | no_gravity, mpd and ncmpc and mpc |
| 19:44.36 | BenNZ | markovh: not that i know of anyway |
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| 19:45.28 | jacklk | Hello, can someone tell me the correct term for this type of socket? |
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| 19:45.43 | jacklk | http://www.draytek.co.uk/support/image/bt_faceplate1.jpg |
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| 19:47.04 | markovh | huh... it's coming up as eth1 instead of wlan0 haven't seen that before |
| 19:47.34 | nkuttler | jacklk: try ##hardware |
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| 19:47.41 | petemc | jacklk: rj11 |
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| 19:49.57 | petemc | jacklk: actually, i might be wrong, thats BS 6312 |
| 19:50.18 | jacklk | I think it's actually an rj11 |
| 19:50.33 | jacklk | I asked in ##hardware since this isn't really Debian related |
| 19:51.02 | petemc | depends how its wired |
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| 19:51.25 | cm13g09 | markovh: re: eth1/wlan0, it depends on how the driver has been implemented I believe |
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| 19:52.01 | cm13g09 | I have an atheros card that appears as eth1, and an intel card that shows as wlan0, same kernel.... |
| 19:52.11 | markovh | tbh, debian should really have a shotgun approach for some of this stuff (as much as i know they'll never do it) |
| 19:52.21 | markovh | with one package that installs everything you could possibly need just in case |
| 19:52.45 | markovh | cm13g09: oh for that, i see |
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| 19:53.22 | cm13g09 | markovh: yeah - it's a bit wacky, but I think some drivers present the card as an ethernet controller |
| 19:53.33 | cm13g09 | and then translate for 802.11 |
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| 19:53.40 | cm13g09 | or something along those lines |
| 19:53.54 | cm13g09 | others actually behave as 802.11 drivers |
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| 19:54.14 | norbert_ | hey all |
| 19:54.19 | cm13g09 | and that, I believe, is what causes the eth1/wlan0 stuff |
| 19:54.20 | norbert_ | I'm about to move back from Ubuntu to Debian |
| 19:54.25 | BenNZ | markovh: how could debian make one package for everyone as some driver/firmware packages conflict with one another? and i was told by someone that jockey was being ported to debian , but that could be wrong |
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| 19:54.39 | norbert_ | for the desktop, what do you think, should I use the "stable" image or "testing"? |
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| 19:55.20 | nkuttler | norbert_: it depends. do you need your desktop to work? |
| 19:55.28 | cm13g09 | norbert_: I use testing... but it's really a question of whether you are prepared to deal with the inevitable breakage that can occur in testing |
| 19:55.43 | norbert_ | hum... okay, "stable" it is then :) |
| 19:55.50 | cm13g09 | how much, and what breaks is variable! |
| 19:56.17 | cm13g09 | my favourite breakage has been the fact that brltty seems to get installed every time I upgrade.... |
| 19:56.18 | norbert_ | any reason to pick the DVD over the CD if I have a fast Internet connection? |
| 19:56.31 | nkuttler | norbert_: no. take the netinst image |
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| 19:57.21 | nkuttler | cm13g09: aptitude why brltty |
| 19:57.32 | jacklk | Hello, can someone tell me what type of socket this is? http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lprsdbDKp41qdeh10o1_1280.jpg |
| 19:57.36 | jacklk | oops |
| 19:57.38 | jacklk | wrong image |
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| 19:57.50 | jacklk | I mean |
| 19:57.55 | jacklk | Is this an rj11? http://www.draytek.co.uk/support/image/bt_faceplate1.jpg |
| 19:57.55 | norbert_ | netinst, is that with "jigdo"? |
| 19:58.06 | cm13g09 | nkuttler: yeah - it's not so much why it installs it that's the problem |
| 19:58.15 | norbert_ | "jigdo" is an in-crowd term, the website should say it's a net install |
| 19:58.29 | cm13g09 | more the fact that brltty eats USB serial adaptors for breakfast is neither here nor there ;) |
| 19:58.39 | cm13g09 | and it breaks stuff I'm doing ;) |
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| 19:59.36 | norbert_ | found it :) http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.5/i386/iso-cd/debian-6.0.5-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 20:01.44 | norbert_ | going for the install, cu all later |
| 20:02.57 | Quix0r | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=681409#33 <-- this really seems to "fix" that freezing "bug" (more a feature) |
| 20:03.37 | Quix0r | i have no longer such freezes here :) |
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| 20:07.09 | cm13g09 | Quix0r: awesome - thanks |
| 20:07.13 | cm13g09 | adding to startup |
| 20:08.02 | Quix0r | better compile it and add it to ~/.bashrc, I think |
| 20:08.06 | puffrfish | I'm trying to install the mimencode program so I can replace uuencode with it in a script, and from what I can tell it's part of the metamail package. I can't seem to find anywhere that has it, as it seems to be discontinued. Is there a suitable replacement or anywhere else I can find mimencode? |
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| 20:09.00 | nkuttler | !tell puffrfish about search |
| 20:09.29 | nkuttler | puffrfish: actually, dpkg -L |
| 20:09.54 | chrisirc | Hello. Anyone knows a program offering a music software keyboard? (qwertz-to-piano mapping) |
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| 20:10.21 | chrisirc | qwerty |
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| 20:12.13 | chrisirc | I also want to hear the notes I'm hitting; vmpk doesn't seem to do that. |
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| 20:21.17 | boudiccas | hi, i've just reinstalled squeeze and upgraded to wheezy |
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| 20:22.12 | boudiccas | tried to install pidgin but was unable to, so i'm online through empathy atm |
| 20:22.15 | jacklk | boudiccas: Good for you, nigger. |
| 20:22.29 | jacklk | Install Hawk not Pidgeon |
| 20:22.30 | nkuttler | !ops jacklk trolling, see his log |
| 20:22.30 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: nkuttler complains about: jacklk trolling, see his log |
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| 20:22.39 | jacklk | They shit all over the place. |
| 20:22.45 | jacklk | nkuttler: FUck you |
| 20:22.47 | jacklk | Bitch |
| 20:22.49 | jacklk | nigger |
| 20:22.50 | jacklk | fuck |
| 20:22.51 | jacklk | shit |
| 20:22.52 | jacklk | twat |
| 20:23.15 | flamingspinach | Question: packages in the debian repository shouldn't depend on anything that aptitude shows in "Obsolete and Locally Created Packages", right? |
| 20:23.24 | nkuttler | boudiccas: which error did you get? |
| 20:23.53 | nkuttler | flamingspinach: right |
| 20:23.56 | boudiccas | nkuttler: Note: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) |
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| 20:24.16 | nkuttler | boudiccas: please paste the whole error and the command you used |
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| 20:24.50 | boudiccas | nkuttler: can we join #flood again please for it? |
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| 20:25.27 | nkuttler | boudiccas: there are also command line tools to paste stuff to websites. this way more people can have a look and help |
| 20:25.30 | flamingspinach | nkuttler: then why does aptitude tell me that a bunch of packages depend on libavutil50, which is apparently not in the debian repos? |
| 20:25.33 | nkuttler | !tell boudiccas about pastebinit |
| 20:26.00 | nkuttler | ,v libavutil50 |
| 20:26.01 | judd | Package: libavutil50 on i386 -- squeeze-multimedia: 5:0.7.12-0.0 |
| 20:26.19 | flamingspinach | I'm on amd64 fwiw |
| 20:26.41 | nkuttler | flamingspinach: which package depends on it? |
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| 20:27.20 | flamingspinach | nkuttler: libavcodec52, libavdevice52, libavfilter1, libavformat52, libpostproc51, libswscale0 |
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| 20:27.43 | nkuttler | flamingspinach: apt-cache policy libavcodec52, use a pastebin |
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| 20:28.03 | flamingspinach | looks like most or all of those depend on libavutil50 | libavutil-extra-50, but libavutil-extra-50 isn't in any debian repos either |
| 20:28.25 | nkuttler | ,v libavutil-extra-50 |
| 20:28.26 | judd | No package named 'libavutil-extra-50' was found in i386. |
| 20:28.33 | flamingspinach | http://paste.debian.net/192308/ |
| 20:28.42 | boudiccas | nkuttler: http://dpaste.com/804894/ |
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| 20:29.51 | flamingspinach | hmm, looks like I have a newer version of libavcodec52 than what's in the debian repos |
| 20:29.54 | flamingspinach | odd |
| 20:29.57 | nkuttler | boudiccas: er. which ldconfig? |
| 20:30.00 | flamingspinach | maybe it was in wheezy and got removed? |
| 20:30.11 | nkuttler | flamingspinach: or you installed a backport, or maybe something from dmm |
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| 20:30.50 | bhasker | I have a eGalax screen and I am using a egalax driver but I am not able to get multi-touch working. Can someone help me please with multi-touch how to get it working on debian |
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| 20:31.15 | flamingspinach | nkuttler: I only have squeeze/wheezy/sid/experimental in sources.list - used to have mozilla backports but I removed it |
| 20:31.16 | boudiccas | nkuttler: it appears not to be installed, a failure of the squeeze/wheezy setup |
| 20:31.29 | flamingspinach | (I have experimental pinned negative though) |
| 20:31.43 | nkuttler | flamingspinach: only? that's about as messy as it can get |
| 20:31.49 | nkuttler | boudiccas: yeah, that's odd |
| 20:31.58 | flamingspinach | nkuttler: it's all pinned nicely, I promise :) |
| 20:32.11 | nkuttler | boudiccas: no /sbin/ldconfig ? |
| 20:32.27 | nkuttler | flamingspinach: well if you know how to pin all of that you know more about debian than me anyway :) |
| 20:32.33 | flamingspinach | my /etc/apt/preferences : http://paste.debian.net/192309/ |
| 20:32.39 | boudiccas | nkuttler: no |
| 20:33.02 | nkuttler | boudiccas: do an apt-get -f install |
| 20:33.34 | nkuttler | start-stop-daemon is part of dpkg fwiw |
| 20:33.53 | boudiccas | nkuttler: that appears to have worked so i'll install ldconfig then, thanks |
| 20:35.39 | boudiccas | nkuttler: unable to install ldconfig as no package avalable for it. so whats it in then? i'm puzzled |
| 20:36.04 | nkuttler | boudiccas: libc-bin |
| 20:36.12 | boudiccas | thanks |
| 20:36.13 | puffrfish | still not having much luck trying to find mimencode, I found a metamail package, but it's only for some obscure architectures on sid http://packages.debian.org/sid/metamail |
| 20:36.55 | nkuttler | puffrfish: sounds like it's not packaged then? |
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| 20:37.40 | puffrfish | I guess not, although the amount of docs I found on it made me think I just wasn't looking in the right place |
| 20:37.57 | boudiccas | nkuttler: libc-bin is already the newest version., but its got a whole lot to auto-remove so i'll try that and then see about installing something again |
| 20:39.25 | boudiccas | nkuttler: its still complaining about ldconfig and the same error message as in the dpaste. i'm stuck then |
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| 20:39.58 | nkuttler | boudiccas: apt-get -f install again, if there's any relevant output please paste it |
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| 20:40.53 | boudiccas | what was that? a netsplit? |
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| 20:41.16 | nkuttler | boudiccas: apt-get -f install again, if there's any relevant output please paste it |
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| 20:42.02 | boudiccas | nkuttler: done, no relevant output though |
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| 20:43.42 | boudiccas | what is happening, i keep disconnecting for some reason? |
| 20:43.48 | nkuttler | boudiccas: hrm, apt-get remove vnstat |
| 20:44.02 | nkuttler | boudiccas: looks like something is wrong with your client |
| 20:44.02 | streuner | boudiccas: not a netsplit... |
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| 20:44.50 | norbert | hi, I'm installing Debian on another PC here and noticed that guided partitioning is preselecting ext3 and not ext4 |
| 20:44.51 | boudiccas | well until i've got apt-get sorted out i'm stiuck with empathy as i cant install pidgin |
| 20:45.04 | norbert | is ext4 still considered less stable or is there another reason maybe? |
| 20:45.56 | boudiccas | how do i go about getting the PATH sorted out so start-stop-daemon and ldconfig are in the right places and seen by apt-get please? |
| 20:46.20 | nkuttler | boudiccas: well i thought ldconfig wasn't installed yet? |
| 20:46.54 | boudiccas | nkuttler: its installed and the newest version, but root's PATH isn't properly configured |
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| 20:47.05 | nkuttler | boudiccas: i'd start by not using sudo then |
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| 20:48.46 | boudiccas | nkuttler: thanks, thats sorted out apt-get and i've been able to install vnstat. so now i'll get pidgin and get online properly with it |
| 20:48.53 | bhasker | I have a eGalax screen and I am using a egalax driver but I am not able to get multi-touch working. Can someone help me please with multi-touch how to get it working on debian |
| 20:49.28 | nkuttler | boudiccas: well if you want to irc properly, install irssi :) |
| 20:49.39 | norbert | meh, I'm just going for ext4 |
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| 20:50.02 | boudiccas | nkuttler: i've never got on with irssi, i've tried it once and didnt like it, so i use pidgin |
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| 20:51.05 | boudiccas | right, i'll be back with pidgin. oh, i see i'm already here. out with empathy then |
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| 20:52.28 | markit | hi, I would like to know how much disk I/O has been done between two moments... like run the "meter" in a shell, run a program and at the end close the program and see how much read and writes have been done |
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| 20:52.46 | markit | is it possible and how? iotop gives me only "instant" measure |
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| 20:54.46 | BoozeWooz | hello misters |
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| 20:59.17 | sidewalk | so i have a ubuntu now with software raid, and i got tired of ubuntu being so lame on the server side.. so i would like to upgrade it to debian |
| 20:59.43 | sidewalk | can i preserve my raid setup and just install debian on it, or how should i proceed? |
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| 21:02.20 | boudiccas1 | i think i'm just gutting this new wheezy setup by apt-get autoremove which seems to be removing virtually everything! so when its finished i'll try reinstalling them again |
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| 21:13.29 | inter | ciao a tutti |
| 21:13.36 | inter | !list |
| 21:13.36 | dpkg | inter: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.5-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
| 21:14.20 | norbert | !list |
| 21:14.20 | dpkg | norbert: Debian è un sistema operativo composto di software libero non quella gratis. Vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per sapere di più. |
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| 21:15.42 | norbert | why does dpkg address people in Italian when !list is used |
| 21:16.17 | nkuttler | norbert: i think it's some common italian warez scene bot command. hence the link to the debian download |
| 21:16.37 | specing | !list |
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| 21:16.37 | dpkg | specing: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.5-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
| 21:16.41 | norbert | ah, right |
| 21:16.50 | nkuttler | norbert: italians come here all the time with !list. personally i wonder why that doesn't autokick them.. |
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| 21:17.10 | markit | better educate than punish ;P |
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| 21:17.21 | nkuttler | you have a point there |
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| 21:20.51 | boudicca | hmm, that apt-get remove gutted my setup, and took pidgin with it, so i've installed xchat for now |
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| 21:30.37 | boudicca | test |
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| 21:30.52 | Gargantua | test failed |
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| 21:35.16 | norbert | what the... |
| 21:35.27 | norbert | the installation is complete, but when I reboot into the new system... |
| 21:35.38 | norbert | all I see is: "error: file not found. grub rescue>" |
| 21:35.43 | norbert | :| |
| 21:36.01 | norbert | seriously, you guys |
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| 21:37.10 | Sirius | you have installed grub or lilo ? |
| 21:37.25 | norbert | grub, into the master boot record |
| 21:37.38 | Sirius | you have more than one HDD ? |
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| 21:37.50 | somiaj | seems like grub. Sounds like his grub config is messed up like he missing a kernel/initrd image or isn't pointing to the correct one |
| 21:37.50 | norbert | yes, two hard disks |
| 21:38.19 | Sirius | and its booting from the HDD with grub ? |
| 21:38.22 | Sirius | or the other ? |
| 21:38.26 | norbert | one +-80G that I used as / and one +-340 that I used as /home |
| 21:38.39 | norbert | and I give the / a bootable flag |
| 21:38.43 | boudicca | if i give apt-get a list of files to install, how do i get it to just skip the ones it already has please? |
| 21:38.50 | somiaj | where did you install grub? (rember what disk, was it the partition or the mbr?) |
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| 21:38.56 | somiaj | norbert: linux doens't care about bootable flags. |
| 21:39.11 | Sirius | boudicca, apt-get does that automaticly =) |
| 21:39.22 | Sirius | only warns you that those files already exists |
| 21:39.28 | norbert | somiaj: into the master boot record |
| 21:39.40 | boudicca | k, thanks |
| 21:40.28 | norbert | when I enter "ls" after the grub rescue> prompt, I get this: |
| 21:40.45 | somiaj | norbert: well what I would do is use your install disk to boot up into rescue mode (or just boot up and get a console) |
| 21:40.50 | norbert | (hd0) (hd0,msdos5) (hd0,msdos1) (hd1) (hd1,msdos1) (fd0) |
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| 21:41.25 | somiaj | norbert: mount your root file system (and the /proc and /dev inside of it) and chroot to it, and from there fix grub. |
| 21:41.29 | norbert | it's a netinst CD |
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| 21:42.09 | norbert | I'm going to the Advanced options -> Rescue mode |
| 21:42.37 | somiaj | yea that will work if you can identify your root partition. If not just boot up into the exper mode but don't actually start the installer |
| 21:44.38 | norbert | so, I'm now in the menu that shows Rescue operations |
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| 21:44.55 | somiaj | don't know that menu, but keep going. |
| 21:44.55 | norbert | should I Execute a shell in /dev/sda1 or should I Reinstall GRUB boot loader? |
| 21:45.15 | boudicca | i have a text file called dpkg-remove.txt and when i cut and paste from it into apt-get it is taking the line-breaks in the txt file and using it in apt-get so i'm left with a whole load offiles at the command prompt. how do i get it to be a paste without line breaks please? i'm using gedit to open the txt file |
| 21:45.35 | somiaj | up to you, I would excute a shell myself cause I like to do things from the cli. You are welcome to try the more automatded boot loader approach norbert |
| 21:45.55 | nkuttler | boudicca: apt-get remove `cat file` |
| 21:46.20 | boudicca | okay, thanks |
| 21:47.14 | norbert | wow, I tried installing Grub into /dev/hda1 and the whole background turned red with a message: "Unable to install GRUB in /dev/hda1 Executing 'grub-install /dev/hda1' failed. This is a fatal error." :P |
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| 21:47.56 | norbert | I think that maybe only one of the hard disks can be / in my system |
| 21:48.05 | nkuttler | norbert: in the installer? |
| 21:48.08 | norbert | and that I had to pick the other one to be / |
| 21:48.09 | nkuttler | norbert: obviously |
| 21:48.36 | norbert | well, what I mean is, I picked one to be / and the other to be /home |
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| 21:48.51 | boudicca | nkuttler, but that command removes them when what i'm trying to do is to install them, presumably its apt-get install 'cat dpkg-remove.txt' ? |
| 21:48.53 | norbert | but I had to switch them, because one of the hard disks cannot hold / and can't be bootable |
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| 21:49.12 | nkuttler | boudicca: right |
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| 21:49.32 | norbert | it's always such a waste of time, if only Debian had simply said: "I see you have two hard disks, do you want to use them both?" |
| 21:49.40 | inter | ciao a tutti |
| 21:49.41 | norbert | then I could just have clicked Yes and leaned back |
| 21:49.45 | norbert | inter: !list |
| 21:49.49 | inter | !list |
| 21:49.49 | dpkg | inter: Debian è un sistema operativo composto di software libero non quella gratis. Vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per sapere di più. |
| 21:49.54 | norbert | inter: beat you to it |
| 21:50.18 | nkuttler | norbert: i think you want to partition manually for that |
| 21:50.37 | nkuttler | norbert: but the setup with separate /var/ /usr/ etc should probably support more than one disk |
| 21:50.49 | nkuttler | always does manual anyway |
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| 21:52.17 | Gargantua | "I see you have two hard drives..." <- No. |
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| 21:52.43 | Gargantua | Linux is like a blind beast, you gotta learn how to move it around. |
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| 21:53.17 | dvs | more like wild beast! |
| 21:53.20 | specing | Whats up with italians and !list? |
| 21:53.25 | boudicca | its failing to find the dpkg-remove.txt http://dpaste.com/804932/ how do i do it then please? |
| 21:53.46 | nkuttler | boudicca: `, not ' |
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| 21:53.59 | boudicca | ah right, thanks |
| 21:54.27 | nkuttler | or just $(cat blah) |
| 21:54.44 | Gargantua | beat me to it |
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| 21:55.39 | norbert | I'm going to reinstall everything but will switch / and /home between the two hard disks |
| 21:55.54 | boudicca | its unable to find the package cat and neither can i install it, so how do i do it then please? |
| 21:55.57 | Gargantua | lol, that oughta do it |
| 21:56.04 | nkuttler | boudicca: which command did you type? |
| 21:56.22 | boudicca | apt-get install cat dpkg-remove.txt |
| 21:56.23 | Gargantua | boudicca: are you trying to install cat or the contents of the text file? |
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| 21:56.59 | boudicca | the contents oof the text file, although that may need to be edited to take out all the previous apt-get commands in it |
| 21:57.04 | nkuttler | boudicca: well where's the ` ? just use apt-get remove $(cat file) |
| 21:57.19 | boudicca | i want to install from it |
| 21:57.24 | nkuttler | well install then.. |
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| 21:57.29 | Gargantua | apt-get install `cat file.txt` |
| 21:58.06 | themill | or use xargs |
| 21:58.30 | Gargantua | Much better idea |
| 21:59.37 | boudicca | http://dpaste.com/804934/ dpkg-remove.txt is in /home/boztu/cron so should i put the full path in to install from it then please? |
| 22:00.18 | nkuttler | boudicca: that's wrong. you're still using apostrophes, not backticks or $() |
| 22:00.30 | nkuttler | and if the file is not in the current dir, yes, use the full path |
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| 22:01.19 | boudicca | i'vew cd'eed into /home/boztu/cron , but what do you mean by /apostrophes/ please? i'm using / '/ is this wrong? |
| 22:01.42 | themill | boudicca: ' and ` are different characters |
| 22:01.49 | norbert | I'm scared that after 2 more hours of waiting and installing GRUB in the MBR of the other HD, the system is going to fail again |
| 22:01.56 | nkuttler | boudicca: yes, but just use $(cat file) |
| 22:01.58 | norbert | and then maybe I shouldn't install in the MBR or something |
| 22:02.08 | boudicca | nkuttler, okay, thanks |
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| 22:02.26 | norbert | too bad it takes such a long time to try out that stuff |
| 22:02.57 | nkuttler | norbert: well there are rescue cds for that |
| 22:03.39 | norbert | yeah, there are probably better solutions, but figuring those out may take more than 2 (or 4) hours |
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| 22:03.54 | norbert | I tried some of 'em a couple of minutes ago and nothing seemed to work |
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| 22:04.26 | nkuttler | norbert: supergrub and ultimate boot cds are good in my experience |
| 22:04.39 | nkuttler | but then, if you don't know how to use them.. reinstall might just be faster |
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| 22:08.29 | boudicca | apt-get is taking a list of files from the clipboard, going to install them and asking me to continue and then aborting when i say Y . i've tried apt-get -f install but its made no difference. how do i proceed please? |
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| 22:09.01 | nkuttler | boudicca: paste some output |
| 22:09.08 | themill | exact error messages preferred... as usual. |
| 22:09.09 | nkuttler | + command |
| 22:09.15 | nkuttler | !errors |
| 22:09.16 | dpkg | If you don't tell us the exact error messages you get, we can't tell you what's wrong, and it's also useful to know exactly what command you're typing. Please look for the *first* error that occurs, as this is often the cause of later errors -- ask me about <localized errors> too. Please don't paste in the channel, use a pastebin instead; ask me about <pastebin>. |
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| 22:10.12 | boudicca | nkuttler, http://dpaste.com/804937/ |
| 22:10.53 | nkuttler | boudicca: added a blank or something after Y ? |
| 22:11.01 | boudicca | no |
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| 22:14.46 | boudicca | i've just installed parcellite so apt-get is still working okay |
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| 22:17.15 | boudicca | huh! its working again, i dont know what i did to it, but its installing that list for me |
| 22:17.47 | norbert | it's magic |
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| 22:18.33 | Sirius | guys any of you are using cinnamon ? |
| 22:19.15 | boudicca | it appears to be related to an over-active keyboard! ho hum! |
| 22:20.10 | hasdf | apt-get says there is no install candidate for xfce4. what could be the problem? |
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| 22:20.26 | Sirius | hasdf, wich repos you have |
| 22:20.30 | Sirius | ? |
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| 22:22.32 | DNS | btw i read about a month ago on many sites that the default desktop of debian 7.0 will be xfce but i just installed the latest netinstall and have a gnome-shell as default desktop, does it mean the descision has changed? :-) |
| 22:22.50 | Sirius | nop |
| 22:22.53 | Schrodinger`Cat | !meow |
| 22:22.54 | dpkg | breaks out in song! meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow... |
| 22:23.04 | Sirius | the default Desktop on DVD's it will be XFCE |
| 22:23.08 | DNS | Sirius: so just for laptops or netbooks? |
| 22:23.12 | DNS | ah i c |
| 22:23.13 | Sirius | but the Default of Debian its gnome |
| 22:24.18 | hasdf | Sirius, lol. theres the problem... no repos. fail :P |
| 22:24.33 | Sirius | lol xD |
| 22:25.08 | hasdf | installed debian without repos and forgot them... (laptop has no ethernet) |
| 22:25.10 | norbert | where does the nick Sirius come from, what meaning does it have, if any? |
| 22:25.51 | DNS | maybe it means that sirius is serious |
| 22:25.54 | DNS | :p |
| 22:26.05 | Sirius | norbert, well i have this nick for 3 reasons :P |
| 22:26.19 | norbert | go on |
| 22:26.20 | norbert | :) |
| 22:26.59 | Sirius | first when i was young i was a space entusiast , and i like read that Sirius is one of the brighest start of our galaxy =) |
| 22:27.03 | Gargantua | Plus the star. |
| 22:27.09 | Gargantua | That's what I figured |
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| 22:27.18 | norbert | yes, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius |
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| 22:28.17 | DNS | nice |
| 22:28.21 | Sirius | second i'm a Harry Potter Fan |
| 22:28.30 | Sirius | and Sirius Black is one of my fav chars |
| 22:28.35 | DNS | but Sirius the biggest stars afaik i now in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarantula_Nebula |
| 22:28.56 | DNS | :D |
| 22:29.08 | DNS | so you need a nick change? lol jk |
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| 22:29.22 | qw12 | anyone know how to set setfacl to also set owner, group permissions (already read man page and help, so don't suggest that) |
| 22:29.45 | norbert | okay http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Sirius_Black |
| 22:29.49 | Sirius | DNS nah :P |
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| 22:30.20 | Captain_Claw | Hi. Can someone please guide me to where the links to the unofficial debian installer is (the one with the drivers)? I've been navigating the website for a while and am lost! |
| 22:30.23 | boudicca | http://dpaste.com/804941/ does that look normal for an apt-get output from a upgrade to wheezy from squeeze please? |
| 22:31.32 | norbert | Sirius: that 2 out of 3... |
| 22:31.35 | norbert | *that's |
| 22:31.36 | hasdf | where to find the regional debian-repos? |
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| 22:32.11 | DNS | hasdf: http://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
| 22:33.10 | Sirius | norbert, 3 -> Sirius belongs to the Canis Major :P and Dogs are my fav animals since they are always at our side |
| 22:34.16 | norbert | ah :) |
| 22:35.00 | boudicca | http://dpaste.com/804941/ is the output when i try to reinstall a list of files that were autoremoved and seemingly gutted my wheezy installation. do they look to be right, are they squeeze files please? |
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| 22:36.28 | nkuttler | boudicca: what makes you think your system is gutted? |
| 22:36.52 | qw12 | how to use sed to change # file: test/dira to # file: /test/dira |
| 22:37.22 | boudicca | nkuttler, i had a list of files that apt-get outputted to autoremove, and some of it was rhythmbox, pidgin, gedit and they were removed from my menus |
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| 22:37.46 | nkuttler | qw12: s/: /: \// ... assuming the format is fixed |
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| 22:38.40 | nkuttler | boudicca: sounds like a pretty normal dist-upgrade to me |
| 22:38.54 | boudicca | nkuttler, so i've saved that autoremove output to dpkg.txt and have been attempting to reinstall from it |
| 22:39.05 | nkuttler | ,v gnome-media-common |
| 22:39.06 | judd | Package: gnome-media-common on i386 -- lenny: 2.22.0-3; squeeze: 2.30.0-1 |
| 22:39.19 | nkuttler | not in wheezy. the others probably neither |
| 22:39.22 | boudicca | nkuttler, okay, thanks, i'll stop panicking then and go to bed as its 2340 herer |
| 22:40.00 | norbert | damnit, now it gives another error |
| 22:40.09 | norbert | "error: incompatible license. grub rescue>" |
| 22:40.26 | norbert | okay, I'm going to install Debian again (3rd time) and now I'm not going to install into the MBR |
| 22:41.57 | Sirius | norbert, do one thing |
| 22:42.12 | Sirius | install all in the same disk |
| 22:42.22 | Sirius | after that reboot |
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| 22:42.28 | norbert | I want to use two hard disks |
| 22:42.33 | Sirius | and mount the second disk as a external partition =) |
| 22:42.38 | norbert | and I don't want to mount the other later |
| 22:42.41 | somiaj | norbert: what are the sizes of your two disks. |
| 22:42.43 | norbert | neh |
| 22:42.59 | Sirius | norbert, you can mount that second disk as home |
| 22:43.01 | norbert | somiaj: 82GB and 320.1GB |
| 22:43.22 | norbert | Sirius: I know, but I just want Debian to properly install without me having to do stuff myself |
| 22:43.29 | norbert | so I'm testing what works, if anything |
| 22:43.32 | qw12 | would anyone know about setfacl and getfacl ? |
| 22:43.34 | norbert | then I can report stuff |
| 22:43.34 | somiaj | norbert: yea I would just pick one and put debian on that. We can easily help you setup the second disk after you get install/boot working |
| 22:44.03 | norbert | well, I'm trying to help the Debian project |
| 22:44.17 | themill | norbert: which installer image are you using? |
| 22:44.20 | norbert | by trying out several things, so I can report on what works and what doesn't, and what error messages I got |
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| 22:44.32 | norbert | 6.0.5, net install |
| 22:44.39 | somiaj | ahh then keep going. I thought you were wanting to get it installed more than test the installer. :D |
| 22:44.56 | norbert | somiaj: both ;) |
| 22:44.58 | somiaj | 6.0.5 shouldn't be having all these issues, if you are gonna test get the beta testing installers. |
| 22:44.59 | themill | there's not really any point testing that further... things like this aren't going to change |
| 22:45.23 | Sirius | norbert, test debian wheezy instaler :P |
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| 22:45.57 | Sirius | btw Wheezy is so stable that i forget that its a testing edition |
| 22:45.58 | Sirius | :P |
| 22:46.00 | norbert | themill: it will also fail guaranteed when I try to change the latest step and install GRUB not into the MBR? |
| 22:46.15 | DNS | when will be the EOL of squeeze or when it will be decided when the EOL is? |
| 22:46.28 | norbert | *don't install |
| 22:46.31 | themill | DNS: 12 months after the wheezy release |
| 22:46.40 | DNS | ok kool:) |
| 22:46.42 | Sirius | DNS when all bugs are fixed =) |
| 22:47.11 | themill | norbert: I'm not sure what you're proposing. I've never had any problems telling the installer to put grub where it should be |
| 22:47.32 | dioz | will there be a new website with the release of wheezy? |
| 22:47.40 | dioz | a new layout pardon |
| 22:47.43 | themill | unlikely |
| 22:47.44 | dioz | some new graphixxx ;] |
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| 22:48.58 | norbert | themill: well, I ran into two grub errors and I'm thinking that maybe I should try to reinstall everything and change the last step by not installing GRUB into the MBR but onto the partition on the HD that holds / |
| 22:49.17 | norbert | (the GRUB errors being "file not found" and "incompatible license") |
| 22:49.38 | norbert | the first error was when I tried the 320.1GB as /home, the second error when I tried that HD as / |
| 22:50.13 | norbert | so now I want to retry the 320.1GB as /home, but install GRUB onto the 82GB / HD instead of into the MBR |
| 22:50.25 | norbert | but only if it's not a completely pointless endeavour |
| 22:50.52 | DNS | norbert: what about a /boot partition instead? :) |
| 22:50.55 | norbert | if that is also guaranteed to fail, I should go straight for using just 1 HD and figuring out how to add a mount point for /home later |
| 22:50.56 | qw12 | anyone know how to use setfacl and getfacl to transfer group and owner permissions (alnog with rwx) from one directory to another similar directory ? |
| 22:51.21 | themill | norbert: an install only takes a few minutes to perform but the installer handles multiple disks just fine when you ask it to |
| 22:51.55 | norbert | themill: you mean a guided install will work with 2 HDs? |
| 22:52.14 | themill | unlikely. How could it possibly work out what you want? |
| 22:52.17 | norbert | I don't understand what you mean, because I tried using 2 (= multiple) hard disks and it didn't work just fine, unfortunately |
| 22:52.45 | norbert | well, it could ask me: I see that you have 2 hard disks, use both of them? |
| 22:52.49 | norbert | and then I can click Yes |
| 22:53.01 | norbert | and it give me some suggestions: maybe use HD1 for / and HD2 for /home? |
| 22:53.20 | norbert | it can check which one is the largest, what would make sense, and so on |
| 22:53.28 | norbert | but that's not really relevant right now, I think |
| 22:53.37 | DNS | norbert: i dont understand this could be made with grub |
| 22:53.46 | norbert | I tried doing it myself and clearly it didn't work fine |
| 22:53.48 | DNS | sdb1/ sdb2/ |
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| 22:55.19 | themill | norbert: the installer could ask millions of questions for every possible partitioning scheme someone can dream up, or you could just do it manually. |
| 22:55.41 | themill | (I know which is more likely) |
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| 22:55.52 | Sirius | i have a little question |
| 22:56.29 | norbert | themill: okay, so I tried it manually twice and both times it failed |
| 22:56.44 | norbert | so now I'm running it again and I'm going to install GRUB on a partition instead of into the MBR |
| 22:56.45 | Sirius | i belong to a open source movement at my school and i was wondering about what its needed to be a Debian repo |
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| 22:57.01 | norbert | it's not a problem that I'm picking ext4, is it? |
| 22:57.13 | themill | norbert: squeeze installer works quite happily on ext4 |
| 22:57.17 | Sirius | norbert, nop |
| 22:57.19 | norbert | ok |
| 22:57.49 | norbert | does the bootable flag do _anything_ at all? |
| 22:57.55 | norbert | does it matter if it's on or off? |
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| 22:58.11 | Sirius | i think that dont matter |
| 22:58.37 | norbert | so it's a useless option, it could also ask me if I want a banana? |
| 22:58.52 | DNS | Sirius: http://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror |
| 22:59.51 | somiaj | norbert: the bootable flag is for the standard mbr which boots off the partiton with a bootble flag on it. So it is around, but isn't needed if you are using grub to boot. |
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| 23:00.14 | somiaj | also installing grub not on teh mbr won't help you because you probabaly have it on your mbr already and you should overwrite that bad grub |
| 23:00.31 | norbert | oh |
| 23:00.38 | norbert | how to I get rid of the current MBR? |
| 23:00.46 | norbert | or fix it or whatever |
| 23:00.57 | DNS | norbert: just open gparted for example |
| 23:01.06 | DNS | and remove the boot mark |
| 23:01.11 | norbert | gparted sounds like a GUI thing, I'm installing Debian |
| 23:01.12 | DNS | :-) |
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| 23:01.16 | DNS | lol |
| 23:02.03 | somiaj | norbert: I would just put a functing grub in your mrb. Also do you know how your bios is configured and which disk it boots off of |
| 23:02.04 | DNS | norbert, then try: man parted |
| 23:02.13 | somiaj | make sure you put grub in the mbr of the primary disk or the disk you chose to be first boot. |
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| 23:03.05 | Sirius | DNS, thanks for the link |
| 23:03.09 | Sirius | i'm analysing that now |
| 23:03.28 | norbert | so, how do I "just" put a functioning GRUB in my MBR, since I tried that twice and it failed... |
| 23:03.49 | norbert | :| |
| 23:04.24 | norbert | I will try to change the boot order in the BIOS after this install is ready and (probably) failed again |
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| 23:07.37 | DNS | norbert: you dont use those hds sometimes in other pcs or? both hds stay in same pc? |
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| 23:08.05 | norbert | I want them to stay in the same PC, yes |
| 23:08.07 | DNS | if yes then a /boot partition would probably the best |
| 23:08.15 | DNS | on one of the hds |
| 23:09.42 | norbert | I think Ubuntu put a different version of GRUB somewhere in the MBR |
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| 23:09.51 | norbert | and now Debian adds something somewhere that is incompatible |
| 23:10.00 | dioz | so is it that the new ati driver hasn't been packaged yet? or is there a wait of some kind? |
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| 23:10.25 | Sirius | welll well folks i'm leaving stay well ;) |
| 23:10.33 | norbert | Sirius: cu around |
| 23:10.34 | DNS | norbert: afaik ubuntu asks if it should overwrite it, and if you say no all should be ok |
| 23:10.36 | DNS | heh |
| 23:10.45 | DNS | Sirius: cya |
| 23:10.58 | Sirius | good luck with grub norbert |
| 23:11.02 | Sirius | stay well DNS =) |
| 23:11.05 | norbert | thanks :) |
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| 23:12.12 | norbert | I have an idea |
| 23:12.22 | norbert | I have an old MS DOS disk here with fdisk on it |
| 23:12.31 | norbert | I could probably run fdisk /mbr to rewrite the MBR |
| 23:12.39 | norbert | and then the install may succeed |
| 23:12.54 | DNS | ^^ |
| 23:13.16 | DNS | just use a livecd or 'live-usbstick' |
| 23:13.35 | DNS | ms dos lol |
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| 23:14.25 | norbert | lol all you want, but I'm already booting the floppy :) |
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| 23:15.01 | DNS | norbert: i mean you can boot from a livecd and install parted and/or gparted and do with that the job |
| 23:15.14 | DNS | ms dos maybe just destroys it |
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| 23:16.52 | norbert | weird, the floppy loads but the GRUB error still shows up and no A:\ prompt |
| 23:17.14 | norbert | I'll try an Ubuntu live cd I have here |
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| 23:17.23 | norbert | and run gparted |
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| 23:22.38 | daniel-s | hi, what does this mean?: http://dpaste.com/804965/ |
| 23:22.49 | daniel-s | is somebody trying to guess my ssh password? |
| 23:23.11 | aidalgol | Looks like it. |
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| 23:23.23 | DNS | lol yes |
| 23:23.30 | aidalgol | Stop the SSH daemon now, if you can. |
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| 23:24.01 | DNS | daniel-s: and maybe do an ip lookup |
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| 23:24.14 | aidalgol | And use fail2ban. |
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| 23:24.35 | norbert | someone from Istanbul, it seems |
| 23:24.49 | dvs | those turkeys! |
| 23:24.51 | aidalgol | Ideally, only all public-key authentication. |
| 23:24.51 | dvs | ;-) |
| 23:24.56 | aidalgol | s/all/allow/ |
| 23:24.58 | DNS | or with a turkish proxy of course |
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| 23:25.22 | norbert | yes, may be a proxy, it's an IP in the range of a university |
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| 23:25.45 | norbert | man, it takes ages for that Ubuntu live cd to start up |
| 23:25.47 | aidalgol | In that case, should he contact the university about this? |
| 23:25.56 | norbert | the DOS floppy sure would've been faster (if it had worked) |
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| 23:26.24 | DNS | norbert: there are much smaller live cds only with tools like parted |
| 23:26.35 | aidalgol | recommends Finnix. |
| 23:26.51 | norbert | DNS: yeah, I should probably get me one of those |
| 23:26.59 | norbert | could make life easier in occasions like this one |
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| 23:28.06 | norbert | aidalgol: does Finnix come with a GUI? |
| 23:28.24 | aidalgol | No, unfortunately, but it does have parted. |
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| 23:31.19 | AmarokNelg | ... |
| 23:31.20 | AmarokNelg | norbert: did you have a problem with grub? |
| 23:31.33 | norbert | yep |
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| 23:31.47 | norbert | did->do |
| 23:32.10 | AmarokNelg | Does grub not find the HDs? |
| 23:32.54 | norbert | no, the problem is that no matter which one I set as bootable and give mount point /, I get GRUB errors after I reboot ("file not found" and "incompatible license") |
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| 23:33.22 | AmarokNelg | ? |
| 23:33.24 | norbert | so I'm now going to try to use a live cd to fix the MBR with gparted, so it'll work with whatever Debian wants to put there again |
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| 23:35.11 | DNS | norbert: i still wonder what this incombatible license is about, heard that the 1st time. |
| 23:35.15 | AmarokNelg | What is X Windows |
| 23:35.27 | DNS | AmarokNelg: X11 |
| 23:35.43 | Gargantua | That term is frowned upon, for obvious reasons. |
| 23:35.47 | norbert | AmarokNelg: why do you ask us, you can Google questions like that |
| 23:36.04 | DNS | AmarokNelg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System |
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| 23:36.18 | Gargantua | wtf is "incompatible license"? |
| 23:36.54 | norbert | Google: "incompatible license" GRUB |
| 23:37.01 | totesmuhgoats | Gargantua: what term is frowned upon? |
| 23:37.21 | daniel-s | thanks DNS, aidalgol, norbert |
| 23:37.23 | AmarokNelg | ehh, what version of grub do you have? |
| 23:37.30 | norbert | it's weird, the Ubuntu live cd doesn't want to "Try Ubuntu" |
| 23:37.32 | AmarokNelg | grub-legacy still? |
| 23:37.34 | daniel-s | I installed fail2ban and changed the port number of the sshd |
| 23:37.38 | Gargantua | The term "X-Windows" (in the manner of "Microsoft Windows") is not officially endorsed, though it has been in common use since early in the history of X and has been used deliberately for provocative effect, for example in the UNIX-HATERS Handbook.[5] |
| 23:38.21 | totesmuhgoats | ah |
| 23:38.25 | daniel-s | would you guys recommend this document: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ or another for securing debian? |
| 23:38.36 | aidalgol | Is the unix-haters handbook meant as a joke, or is it actual unix haters? |
| 23:38.37 | daniel-s | that one is out of date (latest copyright is 2007) |
| 23:38.52 | totesmuhgoats | didn't know that, I thought it was just called that because it provided windowing functionality |
| 23:39.12 | DNS | daniel-s: Version: 3.11, Mon, 20 Aug 2012 08:18:53 +0000 |
| 23:39.35 | DNS | at least for me (in german lang) |
| 23:40.12 | aidalgol | Same here (English). |
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| 23:43.38 | Gargantua | aidalgol: Dennis Ritchie made a funny anti-forward to it |
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| 23:45.13 | norbert | since the Ubuntu live cd refuses to work, I'm now looking in the BIOS |
| 23:46.50 | norbert | one of the HDs has disappeared form the BIOS |
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| 23:46.57 | DNS | norbert: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 23:47.08 | norbert | I can no longer pick it as a boot device and it's also missing in the overview |
| 23:47.17 | norbert | DNS: I can't use that... |
| 23:47.21 | DNS | sounds strange |
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| 23:47.27 | bluesm24 | Hey. |
| 23:47.27 | norbert | yeah, strange stuff |
| 23:47.42 | bluesm24 | I have downloaded testing debian. |
| 23:47.57 | bluesm24 | And I've connected to the WiFi network in installer. |
| 23:48.20 | bluesm24 | But When I've installed debian. Wireless is "unmanaged" |
| 23:48.21 | AmarokNelg | Why did they remove unicrome and ati rage 128 from mesa3d driver |
| 23:48.48 | DNS | norbert: this page has a livecd too thats why i pasted it http://sourceforge.net/projects/gparted/files/gparted-live-stable/0.13.1-2/gparted-live-0.13.1-2.iso/download |
| 23:48.50 | DNS | :) |
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| 23:49.11 | DNS | its based on debian live |
| 23:49.16 | norbert | DNS: thanks, but this PC I'm working on can't burn CDs or DVDs |
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| 23:49.24 | DNS | and usb? |
| 23:49.30 | norbert | it does have usb |
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| 23:49.55 | DNS | format usb as fat32 mark it as boot and extract the iso |
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| 23:50.03 | DNS | then boot from usb |
| 23:50.07 | DNS | :-) |
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| 23:51.59 | norbert | DNS: I have a 2GB fat16 USB stick here, will that work? |
| 23:52.07 | norbert | I have it open in gparted |
| 23:52.28 | DNS | if your bios can boot from usb then it should work ye |
| 23:52.44 | dvs | norbert: which ISO do you have? |
| 23:52.49 | DNS | but fa16 im not sure atm i think fat32 |
| 23:53.22 | norbert | I'm using gparted to make it fat32 |
| 23:53.23 | DNS | maybe it does even boot with ext4? i didnt try that so far |
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| 23:53.35 | bluesm24 | ? |
| 23:53.40 | norbert | ok, I have a 2GB fat32 USB |
| 23:53.41 | AmarokNelg | Anyone? |
| 23:53.43 | DNS | i mean usb |
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| 23:54.39 | DNS | norbert: ok after format mark the partition of the stick as boot |
| 23:54.46 | bluesm24 | ? |
| 23:54.53 | DNS | thats important |
| 23:55.34 | norbert | manage flags, boot |
| 23:55.35 | norbert | done |
| 23:55.50 | norbert | I've also downloaded the iso |
| 23:55.59 | DNS | now you just can extract an iso of a live cd on that stick and there u go |
| 23:56.57 | norbert | I don't think the BIOS allows me to boot from USB though :P |
| 23:57.19 | DNS | if its too old then not |
| 23:57.22 | norbert | when I go to the Boot Device Priority, I can only pick DVDs, HDs or a floppy drive |
| 23:57.45 | DNS | bluesm24: you have probably a wireless device which is not supported by free software |
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| 23:58.20 | bluesm24 | DNS: How it is possible to get connection with installer? |
| 23:58.30 | bluesm24 | DNS: And not with final installation ? |
| 23:59.21 | somiaj | norbert: some bios put usb in the HD catagory because that is what it considers them |
