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| 01:13.30 | nvz | I thought HDMI was just plug n play.. I've only used it like twice at best but dont recall doing anything special. I've got GNOME monitor config up and when I hit apply it says "Failed to create file /home/nvz/.config/monitors.xml.ISSQLW': Invalid argument |
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| 01:14.07 | nvz | near as I can tell there is no reason it shouldnt be able to create that file and considering it doesn't say what it was TRYING to do idk what invalid argmument is even referring to |
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| 01:18.12 | nvz | ugh something is all f'd up here.. cause chromium won't start either.. |
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| 01:20.20 | nvz | !test |
| 01:20.20 | dpkg | Test failed. |
| 01:20.29 | nvz | well, at least that still works |
| 01:21.02 | nvz | I'm at a loss for what is wrong that allowed me to login to gnome, start a terminal, screen, and irssi but will not let me run chrome or change monitor config |
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| 01:23.07 | nvz | I do know however that whatever the problem is, its the same problem in both cases, cause running chrome from the terminal gives me the same "invalid argument" error trying to create the profile socket |
| 01:24.27 | nvz | [15890:15890:86306765466:ERROR:process_singleton_linux.cc(270)] Failed to create /tmp/.org.chromium.Chromium.eh1UGD/SingletonCookie: Invalid argument |
| 01:24.36 | nvz | and three other similar errors trying to run chrome |
| 01:25.14 | nvz | to me "invalid argument" suggest a command was passed with an invalid argument but with no clue what the command was, its kinda hard to determine what that error means in a practical sense |
| 01:25.38 | nvz | I already tried the obvious stuff of making sure the disk is read-write, has space available, and tried removing any and all files bitched about |
| 01:26.20 | nvz | I'd google it.. which is what I inteneded to do when I seen there is nobody here answering, but just so happens I can't open my browser.. heh |
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| 01:26.48 | nvz | goes to bang head off the wall |
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| 01:28.17 | Tramp | nvz: I'd rather say the "invalid argument" referst to a function being called incorrectly |
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| 01:29.19 | nvz | I can tell you this, I hibernated my machine before coming here, and I woke it.. now I have a 3.x kernel on here thats not fully functional and it started booting before I had a chance to tell it to boot my 2.6 kernel.. so I powered it off at some unknown part of the boot sequence and chose the 2.6 kernel |
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| 01:29.35 | nvz | but dmesg and the fact I came to a screensaver lock screen tells me that the resume went fine.\ |
| 01:30.10 | nvz | Tramp: well we can sit here and say all kinds of things or we can try maybe.. just maybe come up with some ideas that will lead tyo resolution of this problem |
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| 01:30.49 | Hatori | hello |
| 01:31.22 | nvz | hi |
| 01:32.04 | Hatori | hi nvz, good morning... there are something weird on your box, is it? |
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| 01:32.31 | nvz | yeah it was working before I left home to come here and watch movies off it.. heh |
| 01:32.52 | nvz | normally I can handle the crap I get into.. but this one is baffling me. |
| 01:33.22 | nvz | for any type of problem like this to occur something had to have changed.. its typically ro disk or out of memory, or something like that/. I checked all that.. its all good |
| 01:33.25 | Tramp | nvz: googled a bit for you, nothing conclusive. One guy in a similar case suggested to mv the config ($HOME/.config/chromium I think) away, |
| 01:33.39 | Hatori | what the problems now ? Sorry, i'm just sitting here for a seconds |
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| 01:33.52 | nvz | Tramp: yeah but at this point I dont care about chrome.. its the issue itself.. I just wanna get HDMI on and watch a movie.. |
| 01:34.06 | nvz | both gnome's monitor config and chrom had the same issue |
| 01:34.24 | nvz | so its not some application specific issue, its a larger scope than that |
| 01:34.33 | nvz | but not full system scope as most things ARE working |
| 01:34.41 | nvz | I think its only sockets that are failing |
| 01:35.00 | Tramp | yeah - well. Ithought by getting your browser running again, you could google for yourself - but nvm. |
| 01:35.36 | nvz | true.. but I'm not too stupid to use links or something.. just pissed off and in pain// trying to brainstorm with more people rather than beat my head off google alone |
| 01:36.18 | nvz | its weird nobody is here |
| 01:37.11 | nvz | I'd go to #ubuntu or somewhere.. but most other channels even if people are active, they're stupid.. heh |
| 01:38.15 | nvz | I'm just at a total loss of whats going on here.. I understand all aspects of what I got here pretty well.. electronics, computers, linux.. got a strong background in all of them.. and I'm not even remotely grasping what is going on here |
| 01:38.49 | nvz | need to perhaps see what else works and doesn't and test my theory this is a problem with only socket files |
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| 01:41.41 | ib_mobile | Need help mounting a mdadm mirror from a dead machine on a new host. Is there a better place to ask? |
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| 01:42.54 | nvz | ib_mobile: welll if this is a debian issue, this is the place, but seems like nobody is really active here but me and thats not an area I got much experience with. You could also try #debian on irc.debian.org |
| 01:43.27 | nvz | apparently everyone is busy this weekend.. heh.. Ive been here for about half an hour and not much going on right now |
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| 01:44.13 | LtL | nvz: why don't you adduser another account, see what happens. |
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| 01:45.04 | ib_mobile | Nvz thanks. Its not debian specific but i know people around here generally know there stuff. Whats your issue - maybe i can help |
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| 01:45.33 | nvz | LtL: yeah thats always a good troubleshooting technique but even if it works, it doesnt clue me in on how to fix it and all the data I'm current;y try9ing to access is under this user |
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| 01:46.17 | nvz | LtL: usually when I do that, the resolve is to delete the dotfile where the settings are for the user that wasnt working.. I already tried that in both the chrome and the gnome monitor settings scenario.. didnt solve it |
| 01:46.46 | nvz | LtL: so what I'm saying is, the test to diagnose is pointless if the treatment has already been tried and doesnt work.. heh |
| 01:47.47 | nvz | my diagnostic so far was to "touch this" and make sure the disk was redable, "df -Th" to verify space available, and then to rm crap.. heh |
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| 01:48.10 | nvz | standard diagnostic tree for file errors for me.. heh.. usually its resolved at this point |
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| 01:48.50 | ib_mobile | Whats the issue |
| 01:49.48 | nvz | ok well NOW my filesystem IS read-only |
| 01:49.59 | nvz | just went to reproduce the error and its different now |
| 01:50.18 | nvz | ...and ext4 errors in dmesg.. time to fsck |
| 01:51.29 | nvz | I had already assumed this problem was likely to be something to do with the disk/filesystem as I know its dying |
| 01:52.05 | nvz | I got a 2tb drive already, brand new one but don't have my CPU/RAM for my new computer yet.. |
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| 01:56.50 | qak | folks, i don't get what's missing from my new squeeze install for sound to work .... modules loaded? check. /dev/ nodes present? check. alsamixer settings ok, no mute? check. ran `alsactl init` and rebooted, as discussed on debian related forums? check. ... what else could it be? |
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| 01:57.39 | nvz | ok well apparently the problem revealed itself in the last few minutes, fsck is complete.. it should go back to acting right after I reboot.. either that or it is already dead and as soon as I post, I can kiss this computer goodbye.. haha |
| 01:58.46 | spligak_ | What's the best way to get the drivers for intel integrated graphics? Any advice from you folks who have already got these working on wheezy? |
| 01:58.48 | nvz | qak: sound problems always wind up making you feel real stupid.. mine its usually on this laptop the speaker volume which doesnt appear on most GUI mixers.. and is solely volume for the internal speaker, not the normal PCM channel, not the main, not the headphones.. heh |
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| 01:59.29 | nvz | qak: give some more information about your hardware setup, and or run some similar hardware diag to what you just done would be my advice.. and recheck mixer settings |
| 01:59.45 | nvz | qak: if mixer even loads without errors your good most likely on the driver side |
| 01:59.53 | qak | nvz: hm, ok, where would this internal speaker volume show up? |
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| 02:00.20 | qak | nvz: what diagnostics should i pastebin? lspci, lsmod ... |
| 02:00.37 | nvz | qak: for me I see it on the gnome-alsa-mixer and would probably also show up in the console alsa-mixer its usually good for showing ALL channels |
| 02:00.50 | nvz | qak: I'm wondering what hardware you have and how its setup |
| 02:01.07 | qak | nvz: it's a laptop. i'll post some info; one sec |
| 02:01.44 | nvz | yeah laptops are famos for the kind of nonsense I'm talking about this laptop does it all the time somehow or another |
| 02:02.15 | nvz | everything looks good in the normal volume control, but that damn speaker channel is at 0 volume.. so headphone jack works but not the internal speaker |
| 02:02.32 | nvz | thats the kind of hw diag I'd recommend.. trying different outputs and speaker/headphones |
| 02:03.25 | nvz | if you know the headphone jack has sound, and the mixer comes up wihtout errors, then we know from hardware, kernel, userland, all the way to user is fine.. its just that speaker itself.. either muted or broken |
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| 02:04.19 | qak | nvz: http://pastebin.com/8Ecw8iTB |
| 02:04.28 | qak | looks for headphones... |
| 02:04.31 | nvz | thats the fastest diagnostic tree provided you can round up somethng to plug in and check it with.. tells you you can ignore all the other layers |
| 02:04.44 | qak | true |
| 02:05.03 | qak | i miss running alsactl and hearing linus' voice at the end :D |
| 02:05.15 | nvz | I never heard that before |
| 02:05.28 | nvz | but then again I dont think I ever used that.. I stuck to OSS for a LONG time |
| 02:05.43 | nvz | then alsa matured and the OSS emulation started working |
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| 02:07.18 | qak | nvz: nothing on the headphones either |
| 02:08.00 | nvz | alright well at this point I'm thinking if the mixer works, and alsa utils loads drivers and all that happy stuff its gotta be closer to userland.. application level problem |
| 02:08.14 | nvz | that issue can often be due to dmix, pulseaudio..etc |
| 02:08.34 | qak | i have libpulse installed, but nothing else really |
| 02:08.34 | nvz | they can control applications individually and mix them together and often cause no sound issues |
| 02:08.52 | nvz | well if you dont have pulseaudio running it shouldnt be an issue |
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| 02:09.14 | qak | i figured sound would work out of the box but do i need to install a sound server for my session, like pulse or esd or sth? |
| 02:09.29 | nvz | have you tried a very basic sound test like directly writing to the sound device and looking for errors? |
| 02:09.43 | nvz | you shouldn't need it, no.. |
| 02:10.02 | nvz | I've been looking for a browser that works to view that pastebin, when I could've wget it by now.. heh |
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| 02:11.11 | nvz | never heard of that card before.. I guess this is one of those laptops using that AMD Vision or whatever it is they call it |
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| 02:11.48 | nvz | my cousin has one, they're a nightmare on linux last I checked.. lemme see what kmuto has to say about it.. you got the pciid for that? |
| 02:13.03 | nvz | you may have one of those rare hardware issues where the driver loads, mixer works, sound device is writable but its just broken.. heh .. its rare but it happens |
| 02:13.27 | nvz | usually the driver wont load if people know it doesnt work.. hence why they lookup and claim only pciids they support |
| 02:13.28 | qak | the id is in the dump i pastebin'd |
| 02:13.56 | qak | nvz: I got an error from aplay: aplay: main:654: audio open error: No such file or directory |
| 02:14.01 | nvz | qak: I only see the device ID.. to look it up I need the full pciid.. vendor and product |
| 02:14.30 | nvz | I know intel is 8086, I don't know AMD off the top of my head |
| 02:14.49 | nvz | thats an easy one to remember, since they made the 8086.. heh |
| 02:15.25 | qak | indeed |
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| 02:15.49 | nvz | !hcl |
| 02:15.49 | dpkg | [hcl] Hardware Compatibility Lists for Linux include http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ (PCI verification only), http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/ , http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatdb/lists/hardware_linux.html and http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/ . Also ask me about <driver locator>, <judd-hardware>. |
| 02:16.16 | nvz | either way you can use that tool on your own if you want, kenshi muto knows the kernels in debian well.. he'd know what works and doesnt with that |
| 02:16.31 | nvz | you can do direct hcl lookups from here, but I'd need the full id |
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| 02:16.54 | qak | how do i get this full id you speak of? |
| 02:17.15 | nvz | qak: lspci -nn |
| 02:17.37 | nvz | you also need to update-pciids |
| 02:17.48 | nvz | which is why it showed your id in the first place rather than the model name |
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| 02:18.48 | nvz | that won't change anything about it working, just allow your system to identify the human redable name of the device.. its also a hint your hardware is newer than squeeze and your issue may just be needing a newer kernel, which kmuto can provide you with |
| 02:18.59 | qak | hcl says it works ... |
| 02:19.19 | qak | Hudson Azalia Controller 1022780d |
| 02:19.56 | qak | but i have to come clean and admit i'm using 3.5.4 pure vanilla from kernel.org |
| 02:19.59 | nvz | well I also don't see any oss emulation loaded, and afaik thats still needed for a lot of things.. not aplay naturally.. but some things still use legacy devices |
| 02:20.23 | nvz | ah well then yeah, you may have fudged something |
| 02:20.32 | qak | but i did make oldconfig by using the config in /boot from the stock kernel, but i don't think it's a driver issue. i'm convinced it's a setting |
| 02:20.49 | nvz | well you can't rely on that much going from 2.4 to 2.6 or 2.6 to 3.x |
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| 02:21.16 | nvz | cause the options changed so drastically if you didnt go into menuconfig or preview the file first, then you could've missed something |
| 02:21.26 | qak | alright, i'll reboot to the squeeze default kernel (2.6.x?) and see whether the sound works there ... biab |
| 02:21.35 | nvz | I overlooked AHCI support when I did it.. needed to disable it in the bios to boot |
| 02:22.13 | nvz | converting to libata and such causes a lot of confusion with disk controllers |
| 02:23.07 | nvz | I like to use menuconfig cause it has that handy <help> thing that directly accesses the documentation for you when you see something new you're not familiar with |
| 02:23.50 | nvz | anywho I gotta reboot, and apparently you do as well.. godspeed.. heh |
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| 02:28.04 | qak | ok, i'm back in 3.5.4; i get the same aplay error in 2.6.35 as i mentioned above |
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| 02:29.32 | LtL | qak: go through the alsa checklist, it usually works.. |
| 02:31.06 | qak | sounds like a good idea. ... |
| 02:31.10 | LtL | qak: http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA |
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| 02:34.44 | qak | so i have "esound-common" installed, but not 'esound' proper; shouldn't the base install be enough for me to play sounds? should i install 'esound'? |
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| 02:36.17 | LtL | qak: i have esound-common, no esound and my sound works perfect so i'd say not the issue. sure right proper sound module is loaded? |
| 02:36.42 | Dan39 | danols_work: yo |
| 02:36.56 | Dan39 | oo its LtL .. how ya doing!? |
| 02:37.08 | Dan39 | dont really know me or anything, but you were very helpful once :P |
| 02:37.17 | LtL | qak: whats lspci -nn say for the sound device hex id. |
| 02:37.38 | LtL | hi Dan39 yeah your nick looks familiar |
| 02:37.53 | LtL | Dan39: i'm good man, thanks |
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| 02:38.12 | Dan39 | yea i had some dumb problems with trying to resize partitions, and then with the sizes not turning out right |
| 02:38.37 | qak | LtL: 1022:780d "[AMD] Hudson Azalia Controller" ... modules loaded, shows up in alsamixer ... |
| 02:38.42 | LtL | Dan39: oh yeah now i remember but i wasn't much help iirc :) |
| 02:39.11 | LtL | qak: lemme see if i remember something. |
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| 02:39.20 | LtL | , pciid 1022:780d |
| 02:39.21 | judd | [1022:780d] is 'Hudson Azalia Controller' from 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]' with kernel modules 'ahci', 'snd-hda-intel' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1022:780d and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
| 02:39.40 | LtL | qak: lsmod and look for those modules. |
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| 02:42.40 | jesser | hello … so i have an old Etch system that I'm trying to virtualise. lilo, and fstab point at /dev/ataraid/ devices and so I get a boot failure. I'm looking for a livecd that will use the same hard disk devices names as Etch so i can fix lilo.conf and fstab and run lilo from to fix the boot loader. … Or do you think I need to recompile the kernel without ataraid support or some such? Thank you. |
| 02:43.16 | Dan39 | funny thing is you mentioned at some point how units are 1000 for HDDs intead of 1024, and afterwards that ended up being the big problem when resizing :P |
| 02:43.32 | qak | ahci, snd-hda-intell both loaded .... /dev/snd/{by-path,controlC0,controlC1,hwC0D0,hwC1D0,pcmC0D3p,pcmC1D0c,pcmC1D0p,seq,timer} all exist |
| 02:44.13 | Dan39 | i was banging my head against wall wondering why it was turning out a different size then i specified, and it was that dam 1000 vs 1024 unit difference |
| 02:44.27 | Dan39 | than? :P |
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| 02:44.39 | qak | jesser: how about setting up a clean etch vm and overlaying the stuff you want to run from the old system? |
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| 02:46.00 | jesser | qak: good idea though I was hoping for a simpler process. I guess that should be pretty simple, just a matter of working out which bits are necessary to be copied over. |
| 02:47.15 | LtL | qak: you got a desktop environment installed right? check the usual suspects, 'sound' in the prefs menu, make sure its using HDA Alsa mixer |
| 02:47.24 | qak | jesser: /home,/usr/local/,/usr/src,/opt,/srv parts of /var and /etc ... that's how i imagine i'd do it |
| 02:47.49 | LtL | qak: unless you have a card, try alsactl init card id |
| 02:48.02 | jesser | qak: ok thanks for the suggestion, i will try that if i can't find a livecd that's close enough in vintage |
| 02:48.12 | qak | LtL: i have two sound devices #0 is hdmi and #1 is "normal".... now that i've run `alsactl init` it's using #1 by default, but still no sound |
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| 02:48.40 | qak | jesser: good luck! what virt platform are you using? |
| 02:49.08 | jesser | qak: KVM on SmartOS (derived from OpenSolaris) |
| 02:49.30 | jesser | and thanks :-) i'm new to KVM |
| 02:50.01 | qak | huh ... interesting. i don't know much of kvm, but i should learn it. i only ask bc i think i have an openvz template for etch |
| 02:50.23 | jesser | ah right :-) that would have been handy. |
| 02:50.46 | jesser | have to remember how to install old debian, i fear a boot floppy is the first step? |
| 02:50.52 | LtL | qak: what error does aplay give you |
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| 02:51.01 | qak | lol, no i think etch had a good installer |
| 02:51.12 | jesser | ok cool |
| 02:51.44 | qak | LtL: it says no such file (presumably to the /dev node) but i listed everything in /dev above, and the target file is autocompleted from my shell, so it exists |
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| 02:52.07 | qak | ahci, snd-hda-intell both loaded .... /dev/snd/{by-path,controlC0,controlC1,hwC0D0,hwC1D0,pcmC0D3p,pcmC1D0c,pcmC1D0p,seq,timer} all exist |
| 02:52.27 | LtL | qak: you in the audio group, strange error |
| 02:52.31 | qak | yup |
| 02:52.43 | qak | actually, i get that error as root or as me |
| 02:54.34 | qak | hey, wait. .. my fn-key volume raises the little gnome applet for sound volume, but the meter doesn't move off 0 when i press the vol+ fn key .... that seems like a hint as to where it's being silenced |
| 02:54.50 | LtL | qak: i dont suppose this work from CLI, /usr/bin/speaker-test |
| 02:55.25 | qak | ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave |
| 02:55.42 | qak | Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory |
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| 02:56.20 | LtL | qak: sure those packages on the checklist are installed? |
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| 02:57.10 | qak | well the checklist mentions esd and arts, but afaik i have no sound server; neither the 'esound' pkg, nor arts nor pulseaudio is installed |
| 02:57.47 | LtL | qak: right click the volume control and browse through preferences and levels, maybe install alssmixergui too |
| 02:58.28 | LtL | qak: *alsamixergui, sometimes a logout/login helps if you've stumbled onto something. |
| 02:58.58 | qak | alright, going to logout and in ... biab |
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| 02:59.22 | LtL | qak: i dont use pulseaudio either so i think you can rule it out. |
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| 03:04.24 | LtL | qak: pastebin cat /proc/asound/cards |
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| 03:10.15 | hellyeah | hey |
| 03:10.23 | hellyeah | anyone knows about tortoisehg |
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| 03:11.30 | qak | pastebin is timing out for me |
| 03:12.24 | qak | it seems from googling like this is related to the hdmi output being present |
| 03:12.42 | qak | .. a common issue but i can't find the solution |
| 03:12.52 | LtL | qak: nod, i'm seeing those hits too |
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| 03:14.10 | simonlnu | use another pastebin site... |
| 03:14.28 | LtL | qak: does aplay -l show much |
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| 03:14.51 | simonlnu | hellyeah: it's for windows... |
| 03:14.54 | LtL | qak: paste.debian.net is good |
| 03:15.25 | qak | LtL: aplay -l shows the two devices - hdmi and normal |
| 03:15.37 | mattfury | well in retospect should be a massive update going from 2.6.32-amd64 to 3.6.0-amd64 :p |
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| 03:15.38 | qak | ah, thanks simonlnu |
| 03:15.56 | qak | sure, but same issue with 2.6.35 |
| 03:16.00 | hellyeah | simonlnu: copy some content from linux to windows something like that? |
| 03:16.25 | simonlnu | there's tonnes of pastebins out there. much better than pastebin.com. |
| 03:16.56 | simonlnu | hellyeah: not even vaguely. the 'hg' is for mercury, alluding to mercurial vcs |
| 03:17.29 | hellyeah | i dont know anything about mercurial vcs actually |
| 03:17.45 | simonlnu | the tortoise* apps are guis for windows, for various vcs |
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| 03:17.53 | simonlnu | !vcs |
| 03:17.53 | dpkg | A version control system (aka revision control system, source code management) is a system for managing multiple revisions of information. See <arch>, <cvs>, <darcs>, <git>, <mercurial>, <sccs>, <subversion>. |
| 03:18.12 | hellyeah | hmm |
| 03:18.43 | qak | fwiw: http://paste.debian.net/196812/ |
| 03:18.50 | hellyeah | let say if you work with windows computer on any kind of project that requires files sharing. Tortoise allow me to do that safely |
| 03:18.54 | hellyeah | is that correct |
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| 03:19.24 | qak | unless your vcs contains files with special names like "com" as i learned ... |
| 03:19.48 | simonlnu | hellyeah: has *nothing* to do with copying files |
| 03:20.00 | hellyeah | simonlnu: i got that |
| 03:20.21 | hellyeah | sharing files between linux and windows with vcx |
| 03:20.25 | hellyeah | vcs |
| 03:20.35 | simonlnu | ... |
| 03:21.22 | hellyeah | anyway i need to sleep |
| 03:21.32 | ARCADIVS | How would I see if a package comes from the free, contrib, or non-free repository when I do an aptitude search if I have those in my sources.list? |
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| 03:21.55 | hellyeah | i guess |
| 03:22.00 | hellyeah | apt-cache policy |
| 03:22.03 | hellyeah | or something |
| 03:22.08 | LtL | ARCADIVS: aptitude show package possibly iirc |
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| 03:22.25 | ARCADIVS | Can I limit a search to a particular repository? |
| 03:23.02 | LtL | ARCADIVS: ive heard that question before but no answers that i know of |
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| 03:25.04 | ARCADIVS | Seriously? Debian has been around this long and nobody wanted to do that badly enough to make it a feature? Not complaining. It's just strange. |
| 03:25.04 | LtL | qak: i think creating a ~/.asoundrc file may load the generic device first, seems to have helped other. lemme find the link |
| 03:26.01 | LtL | qak: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/no-sound-with-flash-player-in-firefox-after-adding-nvidia-gt-220-graphics-card-809773/ |
| 03:26.25 | LtL | qak: tweak something with your device[s] |
| 03:27.00 | dondelelcaro | ARCADIVS: debian really only has one repository. |
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| 03:27.04 | LtL | qak: fyi, the same fix shows up under debian solutions too. |
| 03:27.08 | dondelelcaro | ARCADIVS: it's certainly possible to do though, use grep-dctrl. |
| 03:27.53 | qak | LtL: got it fixed by creating /etc/asound.conf and rebooting... thanks for your help |
| 03:28.02 | hellyeah | what do you mean "only one repository" |
| 03:28.14 | LtL | qak: cool, wtg |
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| 03:29.55 | dondelelcaro | hellyeah: exactly that. There are other repositories out there, but they aren't Debian. |
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| 03:30.16 | hellyeah | hmm |
| 03:30.32 | ARCADIVS | dondelelcaro: define repository. If I run a server with one folder marked gentoo and another marked debian, do I have a gentoo repository and a debian repository (two repositories)? Regardless the only thing that matters is that main, contrib, and non-free are all separate. |
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| 03:30.36 | hellyeah | i got it there is one official debian repo |
| 03:31.10 | ARCADIVS | Oh nevermind you're referring to the "officialness" of main. |
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| 03:31.48 | dondelelcaro | ARCADIVS: if you mean whether they're in main, non-free or contrib, then that shows up in the Section. |
| 03:32.06 | ARCADIVS | "Section"? |
| 03:33.28 | dondelelcaro | ARCADIVS: yes. all contrib packages are in a section that starts with contrib/ and all non-free packages are in a section that starts with non-free/ |
| 03:33.32 | dondelelcaro | ARCADIVS: main packages don't. |
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| 03:34.01 | dondelelcaro | ARCADIVS: you can also look at the Filename. |
| 03:34.15 | dondelelcaro | ARCADIVS: apt-cache can't search that, but grep-aptavail can. |
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| 03:36.10 | dondelelcaro | ARCADIVS: or you can do aptitude search '?section(non-free)' for example. |
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| 03:37.06 | hellyeah | http://azerdark.wordpress.com/2011/04/03/debian-6-0-repository-list/ |
| 03:37.17 | hellyeah | repos are same here |
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| 03:37.24 | hellyeah | or all repos are different |
| 03:37.33 | hellyeah | they are groupped under some names |
| 03:37.47 | ARCADIVS | Thank you dondelelcaro I was just installing dctrl-tools but "?section()" looks like what I want. |
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| 03:39.21 | ARCADIVS | Doesn't seem to work. I searched main for fglrx and it found it. |
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| 03:42.01 | hellyeah | is there anyboy familiar with jenkins |
| 03:42.55 | dondelelcaro | ARCADIVS: there's no main section. |
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| 03:45.05 | dondelelcaro | ARCADIVS: you want '?and(fglrx-source,?not(?section(non-free)))' |
| 03:48.22 | ARCADIVS | Thanks, dondelelcaro. It looks like I'll be going with apt-cache policy. |
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| 04:18.54 | mattfury | hey so i have a ICH7 Intel sound card that wont install |
| 04:19.04 | mattfury | on kernel 3.6.0 |
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| 04:19.42 | mattfury | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:20.04 | mattfury | i get this error when compiling alsa-firmware: |
| 04:20.05 | mattfury | config.status: error: cannot find input file: `emi_26_62/Makefile.in' |
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| 04:20.34 | mattfury | and i did ./configure && make && make install ... o.o'' |
| 04:21.55 | mattfury | is it because im compiling against a new kernel or it hates me? :p |
| 04:22.03 | tidux | learn to read |
| 04:22.12 | tidux | it's missing Makefile.in in ./emi_26_62/ |
| 04:22.24 | tidux | that has fuck all to do with the kernel |
| 04:22.29 | tidux | you're just missing files from the archive |
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| 04:25.38 | mattfury | well ttyl have to go out now |
| 04:26.39 | ARCADIVS | I have rxvt-unicode installed on my Debian installation and my Gentoo installation and my shell's prompt is showing gibberish in the Debian one. I can't tell what's causing the issue. Anyone want to recomment some fonts if that's what I'm missing? |
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| 04:26.52 | ARCADIVS | *recommend |
| 04:28.31 | cardamon | You can change urxvt's font in .Xdefaults |
| 04:28.58 | ARCADIVS | No, no. That's not what I mean. |
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| 04:29.35 | ARCADIVS | I'm scrambling to find out why there is gibberish in my terminal, so I'm wondering if I am missing a font to display certain glyphs. |
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| 04:33.07 | cardamon | Maybe $PS1 is set to something weird. |
| 04:33.13 | cardamon | Mine's set to \[\e]0;\u@\h: \w\a\]${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$ |
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| 04:33.55 | ARCADIVS | It is set to something weird but showable as a unicode glyph |
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| 04:34.35 | ARCADIVS | It's not showing the correct glyph. Instead I get accented 'a'. |
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| 04:37.57 | tidux | ARCADIVS: echo $LANG |
| 04:38.08 | tidux | also, are you using mlterm? |
| 04:38.14 | tidux | I have similar problems with it |
| 04:38.17 | tidux | where instead of this |
| 04:38.20 | tidux | ಠ_ಠ |
| 04:38.27 | tidux | I get a "3/4" fraction glyph |
| 04:38.32 | tidux | in place of each eye |
| 04:38.45 | ARCADIVS | $LANG isn't set for some reason. |
| 04:38.53 | simonlnu | utf-8... |
| 04:39.50 | tidux | well there you go |
| 04:39.58 | tidux | it's probably defaulting to ISO-8859-1 |
| 04:40.03 | ARCADIVS | I didn't run through an automated Debian install so I likely missed the step wear I generate my locale. |
| 04:40.07 | tidux | export LANG=en_US.UTF-8 |
| 04:40.17 | bullgard4 | 'man xfdesktop': "xfdesktop manages the desktop itself in the Xfce 4 Desktop Environment. This includes drawing the desktop backdrop and providing a right-click applications menu and middle-click window list menu." What is a »desktop backdrop«? |
| 04:41.56 | simonlnu | background image |
| 04:42.10 | simonlnu | "desktop picture" |
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| 04:43.11 | bullgard4 | simonlnu: Thank you for your help. |
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| 04:43.51 | ARCADIVS | tidux: that's not at all permanent, so isn't there a "proper" way to do this? |
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| 04:44.32 | ARCADIVS | tidux: oh yeah sorry for missing your question. I am not using mlterm. I am using rxvt-unicode-256color. |
| 04:45.15 | simonlnu | set it in shell rc file like .bash_profile or .bashrc |
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| 04:49.23 | ARCADIVS | http://wiki.debian.org/Locale according to this I should dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 04:57.47 | deerecaprio | This is just a developer channel, no chit chat here, though I'm going to lay it down for you right now. I love Debian as many of us do, though I have a big problem that is getting to me, it has to do with the release of squeeze and the randr extension of Xorg. As far as I understand randr is not completely stable nor is it ready for a stable release. You must understand, I'm a cave man, not a developer or programmer, my brain is a |
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| 04:59.13 | wilee-nilee | deerecaprio, "my brain is a" you baiting us to finish this for you. ;) |
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| 04:59.39 | deerecaprio | No, I just can't use my Matrox cards and compiling shit is hard for me on limited time |
| 05:01.52 | deerecaprio | randr is in development, it's as simple as that |
| 05:02.34 | deerecaprio | goodnight |
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| 05:03.10 | BENGY77 | http://posatori.com/videos/Naughty-Babysitter-loves-to-play/ |
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| 05:07.03 | bullgard4 | I have not found libdvdcss2 in packages.debian.org/search. How can I download libdvdcss2? |
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| 05:15.12 | LtL | bullgard4: its for amd64 and not supported by debian but you'll find it here, wget http://www.deb-multimedia.org/pool/main/libd/libdvdcss/libdvdcss2_1.2.10-0.3_amd64.deb |
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| 05:18.37 | LtL | !tell bullgard4 about dmm |
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| 05:37.12 | bullgard4 | LtL: I have the .deb package now in my ~/Downloads directory. Do I have to move it now to /var/cache/apt/archives? |
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| 05:39.37 | simonlnu | bullgard4: why? |
| 05:39.50 | boudiccas | i run this script http://dpaste.com/810394/ every 4 hours to back up /home from the users crontab, but i've just discovered that its not been running, instead giving the rror a t the en dof the paste. so now i have to run it as root. i'm running wheezy and am not aware of any changes that could have caused this, can anyone think of how i cna get it back to being run as user please? |
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| 05:40.27 | bullgard4 | simonlnu: In order to be able use a file in it. |
| 05:40.33 | LtL | bullgard4: nah just dpkg -i filename while in the Desktop dir or use the absolute path to file |
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| 05:42.45 | acu | is there any application that allows video chat with yahoo messenger users ? |
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| 05:43.26 | mattfury | ok i just did all the alsa cconfigure compiles makes and what not: |
| 05:43.30 | mattfury | try to reload: |
| 05:43.31 | mattfury | Loading ALSA sound driver modules: (none to reload). |
| 05:43.36 | mattfury | ;_; |
| 05:44.34 | LtL | mattfury: lsmod ..are they loaded? |
| 05:45.18 | mattfury | wait just found a recompiling error -.- |
| 05:45.23 | LtL | mattfury: why did you need to compile alsa |
| 05:45.27 | boudiccas | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:45.31 | mah454 | hello |
| 05:45.39 | mah454 | I have problem with xrandr command . |
| 05:45.45 | mah454 | please view this : http://paste.debian.net/196832/ |
| 05:46.05 | mah454 | How can add new mode to VGA-0 or DVI-I-0 |
| 05:46.05 | mattfury | LtL, your repos are not update or working for me? |
| 05:47.04 | LtL | mattfury: the basic repo list should offer alsa |
| 05:47.44 | mattfury | yeah it says its already newest but doesnt work still |
| 05:47.46 | LtL | boudiccas: maybe the script should list the USB HD as a regular hdd |
| 05:48.30 | LtL | mattfury: well you may have made fixing sound much more difficult. |
| 05:50.01 | boudiccas | LtL, it worked perfectly okay until 2 days ago, then it stopped, so i think thta something changed in the wheezy setup that stopped the hhackuos |
| 05:50.09 | mattfury | http://paste.debian.net/196834/ |
| 05:50.26 | boudiccas | user backups |
| 05:50.41 | mattfury | LtL, you mean apt-get remove and reinstall? lol |
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| 05:51.12 | thomas`- | hey. which image should i download for i7? |
| 05:51.20 | LtL | mattfury: you can try |
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| 05:51.42 | LtL | thomas`-: amd64 |
| 05:52.02 | thomas`- | i7 host but the guest is whatever VMWare uses |
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| 05:52.54 | thomas`- | LtL, are you serious because i7 is Intel |
| 05:54.05 | acu | thomas`-, AMD gave the 54 bit standard few years before intel came around - so it got stack - for all intels 64 you use AMD 64, except Itanium CPU - I7 is AMD64 |
| 05:54.30 | LtL | thomas`-: yeah i'm serious, its for intel also |
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| 05:55.02 | thomas`- | oh ok thanks, i would never have guessed |
| 05:55.07 | ARCADIVS | If I just finished configuring Alsa, do I need to restart Alsa or reboot? |
| 05:55.42 | thomas`- | acu, LtL - but on a VMWare machine are you sure amd64 would be approparite? |
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| 05:55.55 | thomas`- | it might use 32bit hardware |
| 05:56.54 | acu | thomas, I am confused here, what is wmwaver machine ? - what is the host OS ? |
| 05:57.04 | LtL | thomas`-: as far as VMware i can't answer that. use multiarch? |
| 05:57.17 | thomas`- | host is Windows 7 with Core i7 CPU |
| 05:57.35 | lilibox | hi |
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| 05:58.44 | sneex | thomas`-: you using vmware? then it can only be an emulated cpu type Image would match that |
| 05:58.52 | acu | beside being a joke :) to use windows as host (why not Debian Wheezy with KVM and virtual-manager), however the Wmware, you decide whether you want a 32bit or 64 bit emulation - I did before I think Wmvware on linux - with AMD64 debian machine |
| 05:59.07 | lilibox | i would like to know one small thing, i need split partition i booted from, is it possible to do it over ssh, usualy i used primitive method boot from gparted and plit it manualy but now i won't, please point me at tool i should use, thank you much |
| 05:59.50 | LtL | ARCADIVS: i would reboot |
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| 06:01.02 | thomas`- | Oh oh okay.. Ill think about these options then I just want to keep it as simple as the configuation needs to be so ill do 32bit |
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| 06:02.40 | acu | thomas`-, I think there are some choices for CPU emulation in VMware, so you choose the CPU, it takes you few seconds to look |
| 06:03.01 | acu | thomas`-, did you think of VirtualBox instead of VMware ? |
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| 06:03.25 | acu | VirtualBOx is free, easy and runs on window$ |
| 06:03.41 | acu | !virtualbox |
| 06:03.42 | dpkg | Oracle VM VirtualBox is a free software virtual machine solution. To install, ask me about <vbox-install squeeze>, <vbox-install wheezy>. http://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/User_FAQ http://www.virtualbox.org/ #vbox on irc.freenode.net. See also <vbox manual>, <vbox guest>, <vbox-ose vs vbox>, <vbox migrate win>, <vdi>, <virtualization>. |
| 06:03.49 | acu | !kvm |
| 06:03.49 | dpkg | The Kernel-based Virtual Machine (KVM) is a full <virtualization> solution for Linux hosts on x86 hardware with x86 guests. Packaged for Debian as qemu-kvm since Squeeze. See http://wiki.debian.org/KVM for installation instructions, also ask me about <xve>. http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/FAQ http://www.linux-kvm.org/ #kvm on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 06:04.13 | acu | thomas`-, ^^^^^^ :) |
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| 06:07.06 | thomas`- | acu, Im pretty annoyed with Virtualbox as it messed up one of my machines when i updated so Im trying Vmware. I have a question, what is the most basic Debian image I can download in which I can begin to add only the packages I need? |
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| 06:09.01 | thomas`- | I think it was Smaller CDs but im not sure |
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| 06:10.02 | bullgard4 | LtL: This was successful. -- Thank you very much for your help. |
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| 06:10.21 | LtL | bullgard4: you're welcome |
| 06:11.05 | thomas`- | netinst perhaps hm |
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| 06:26.30 | thomas`- | Is it possible to install a service of some sort to allow scroll and copy+paste support using the mouse in terminal mode? |
| 06:28.53 | jagginess | thomas`-, gpm |
| 06:29.14 | acu | thomas`-, go for netinstall - and you will have a choice along way - to uncheck desktop - an let the essential - so you have only cli console - no dekstop |
| 06:29.16 | jagginess | thomas`-, xclip can be used from an xterm (which is different) |
| 06:29.19 | nsadmin | thomas`-, which predated X on any linux |
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| 06:29.49 | acu | copy paste works with the mouse |
| 06:30.11 | nsadmin | the buttons are different; get used to them |
| 06:30.24 | acu | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:30.31 | thomas`- | cool ive got netinstall downloading alreday when its done ill try gpm :) |
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| 06:30.51 | acu | thomas, : are you installing wheezy or squeeze ? |
| 06:31.34 | thomas`- | http://hammurabi.acc.umu.se/debian-cd/6.0.6/i386/iso-cd/debian-6.0.6-i386-netinst.iso <-- this ISO |
| 06:32.03 | nsadmin | that would be 32-bio |
| 06:32.06 | nsadmin | t |
| 06:32.12 | thomas`- | Oh Wheezy the development version? |
| 06:32.22 | boudiccas | testing |
| 06:32.23 | acu | the wheezy one is newer kernel 3.203 etc |
| 06:32.26 | nsadmin | wheezy is currently "testing" |
| 06:32.30 | thomas`- | I did stable |
| 06:32.56 | acu | http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 06:32.59 | nsadmin | if you want stable, you're downloading the right thing (just note, it's for intel 32 bit) |
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| 06:34.01 | acu | thomas`-, yes, stable for production, though I have wheezy in some servers, and they work fine, though usually I upgrade them only when wheezy is released |
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| 06:34.54 | jagginess | wants a tip on how to for X to use 1024x768 -- his edid information from the X log shows it has this mode support |
| 06:34.56 | thomas`- | I only need Apache, Php5.3, Mysql so I think it should be fine. Im not a linux guru |
| 06:35.16 | jagginess | (currently testing wheezy latest's iso build) |
| 06:35.53 | jagginess | thomas`-, use lynx as a file browser it's faster than what most gurus use! |
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| 06:37.13 | thomas`- | you know what i hate most about linux at the moment.. i cant eaisly go into my server and copy and paste in information from windows... really hope gpm works |
| 06:37.20 | maxxe | file browser? |
| 06:37.28 | jagginess | thomas`-, copy and paste? |
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| 06:38.10 | thomas`- | like I dont have X installed and dont want to install it, so say i need to go in and get a ssh certificate hash |
| 06:38.30 | thomas`- | Its almsot impossible todo i need to copy it to a shared folder |
| 06:38.32 | jagginess | thomas`-, you cant really do the traditional ctl-c with gpm.. you select(highlighter) with the mouse and then use mid-mouse button to paste |
| 06:38.47 | jagginess | thomas`-, ...this is only for tty1-tty6.. not for the X |
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| 06:39.26 | thomas`- | Well, my main concern at the moment is - can it copy in guest and paste into the host? |
| 06:39.27 | jagginess | thomas`-, for X, you can check out xclip,-->eg in xterm I use "echo abc | xclip" then mid-mouse button pastes in a gui text editor .. |
| 06:39.45 | thomas`- | I dont want to install X though |
| 06:39.57 | cardamon | Anyone know if there's a default config file for mc hidden somewhere? |
| 06:40.28 | jagginess | cardamon, ls -la shows .dot stuff.. it's in one of those folders |
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| 06:41.13 | jagginess | cardamon, (commonly, there's a system wide defaults /etc/<some common .conf of an app> before doing ~/.<newsettings in home> |
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| 06:41.52 | cardamon | jagginess: Nah, it was buried in ~/.config rather than ~/ |
| 06:42.02 | cardamon | Most distros put it in the top level. |
| 06:42.08 | jagginess | thomas`-, if you don't want X, the other thing that can copy and paste (without mouse) is scree, tmux, -- which are terminal multiplexers |
| 06:42.28 | jagginess | cardamon, don't move it from it's default folder |
| 06:42.29 | mah454 | Please view this : http://paste.debian.net/196832/ |
| 06:42.31 | toolunious | screen* ? |
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| 06:42.37 | jagginess | !screen |
| 06:42.37 | dpkg | screen is a terminal multiplexor, allowing you to have n terminals and easily switch between them, add key bindings, scroll back, copy/paste and lets you resume all your sessions if your terminal dies or are disconnected. See /usr/share/doc/screen/README.Debian and ask about <screen tutorial>, <byobu>. See http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnuScreen to keep ctrl-a unbroken. http://www.gnu.org/software/screen #screen on irc.freenode.net. |
| 06:42.40 | mah454 | How can add newmode to VGA-0 ? |
| 06:42.54 | mah454 | !tmux |
| 06:42.54 | dpkg | tmux is a terminal multiplexer. It enables a number of terminals (or windows) to be accessed and controlled from a single terminal and is intended to be a simple, modern, BSD-licensed alternative to programs such as GNU <screen>. http://tmux.sf.net/ |
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| 06:43.07 | jagginess | screen it's a program name, and also the name of the command |
| 06:43.34 | jagginess | "screen -RR" re-attaches from a disconnect ssh session.. (many folks use it with ssh) |
| 06:43.39 | jagginess | thomas`-, ^ |
| 06:44.14 | thomas`- | jagginess, you make a good point, I could just login via putty always and copy and paste from there |
| 06:44.18 | nsadmin | sometimes, the name of the program, the name of the command AND the name of the file are all the same |
| 06:44.20 | thomas`- | didnt think of that |
| 06:44.55 | jagginess | says the default help for screen is 'ctl-a ?' (type ctl-a, let go, then type '?' |
| 06:44.59 | jagginess | ) |
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| 06:45.38 | jagginess | gotta fix smthing |
| 06:46.03 | nsadmin | splng? |
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| 06:47.02 | thomas`- | hey if you choose "Graphical install" does it install X? |
| 06:47.11 | EasyAsPie | hi |
| 06:47.13 | thomas`- | Cause i dont want X but want the easy way to install it |
| 06:47.18 | thomas`- | install Debian* |
| 06:47.49 | bullgard4 | '~$ seahorse; ** Message: ini gpgme version 1.2.0; WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: ~/.cache/keyring-XXXXXX/pkcs11: File or directory not found; PKCS#11 module could not be registered. An error occurred on the device.' How can I fix this? Do I need installing another package? |
| 06:47.50 | nsadmin | no, it just uses it from the cd |
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| 06:48.06 | bullgard4 | s/ini/init/ |
| 06:48.07 | EasyAsPie | anyone want to chat? |
| 06:48.11 | thomas`- | thx |
| 06:48.13 | cardamon | I usually shell in a do a screen -dx, so that the window will resize. |
| 06:48.24 | maxxe | in screen it's useful to do ctrl-A-D to detach it, and later resume it with screen -r =) |
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| 06:48.46 | jagginess | bullgard, sounds like pki/x509 certificate formats.. pkcs11 is a standard actually for containing public/priv keys |
| 06:49.00 | cardamon | maxxe: just -dx to detach and attach in one go. |
| 06:49.17 | cardamon | No need to plan ahead. |
| 06:49.19 | toolunious | is there vertical split in screen (out of the box)? |
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| 06:49.38 | jagginess | bullgard4, apt-cache search keyring |grep -i gnome |
| 06:49.55 | jagginess | bullgard4, maybe a package dependency is missing (and you should report it) |
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| 06:51.16 | simonlnu | EasyAsPie: this is a support channel, not a chat channel. go to #debian-offtopic if you want that. |
| 06:51.50 | EasyAsPie | ok I'm in there, but nobody is talking |
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| 06:53.07 | EasyAsPie | ? |
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| 06:53.50 | mattfury | so guiz |
| 06:53.51 | thomas`- | "use entire disk and set up encrypted LVM" <-- this is the best? |
| 06:53.51 | bullgard4 | jagginess: '~$ apt-cache search keyring |grep -i gnome' lists 16 hits. What should I do with this information? |
| 06:55.08 | thomas`- | nvm, already done it :) |
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| 06:56.01 | jagginess | bullgard4, see if the gnome-keyring package is installed |
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| 06:56.12 | mattfury | can someone help with my ALSA problem, compiling ALSA on kernel 3.6.0: |
| 06:56.13 | mattfury | http://paste.debian.net/196834/ |
| 06:56.35 | jagginess | bullgard4, maybe as well the libpam-gnome-keyring package as well |
| 06:57.14 | bullgard4 | jagginess: both are installed. |
| 06:57.15 | EasyAsPie | anyone want to exchange pas? |
| 06:57.18 | EasyAsPie | pms |
| 06:57.22 | EasyAsPie | i would like pms |
| 06:58.56 | mattfury | something a bit more detailed: |
| 06:58.57 | mattfury | http://paste.debian.net/196842/ |
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| 07:00.07 | nsadmin | mattfury, more likely the alsa people who are already compiling against 3.6 would be able to help |
| 07:00.11 | bullgard4 | mattfury: I think you did not put a clever question. Please put your specific problem verbally here and then referring to pastebin. |
| 07:00.14 | EasyAsPie | please send me pms |
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| 07:01.54 | nsadmin | EasyAsPie, debian doesn't do software exchanges, you can have anything debian ships |
| 07:02.14 | EasyAsPie | I'm in off topic - nobody is there :( |
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| 07:05.11 | nsadmin | EasyAsPie, how do you respond to that situation |
| 07:05.20 | EasyAsPie | :( |
| 07:05.24 | EasyAsPie | i go then |
| 07:05.26 | EasyAsPie | bye :( |
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| 07:09.11 | mattfury | oh can i have a debian ship too? ;p |
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| 07:09.55 | Guest64299 | hola |
| 07:09.58 | Guest64299 | algun gay |
| 07:10.30 | mattfury | did he just call me gay in spanish? |
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| 07:11.26 | jagginess | hey guess what.. this new debian wheezy refuses to go beyond 800x600 in vmware (I use native installs too don't worry) -- the edid shows it supports 1024..(also open-vm-tools is installed as well as the xorg vmware driver) |
| 07:11.29 | jagginess | :? |
| 07:11.53 | jagginess | must be that this vmware may be too old hehehe |
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| 07:48.38 | mah454 | Hello |
| 07:48.45 | ParkerR_ | Hello |
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| 07:48.59 | mah454 | i have this string : "http://www.sample.com/image" |
| 07:49.02 | mattfury | i have a bit of a dilemma ;_; |
| 07:49.04 | mattfury | /home/mattfury/Desktop/realtek-linux-audiopack-5.17/alsa-driver-1.0.25/pci/asihpi/../../alsa-kernel/pci/asihpi/hpios.h:33:24: error: asm/system.h: No such file or directory |
| 07:49.13 | Thomas_ | jagginess, could you get Bridged Networking to work in VMWare with your Debian machine? |
| 07:49.14 | mah454 | How can remove image from this ? |
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| 07:49.26 | mattfury | asm/system.h isnt referenced by the kernel anymore amirite? |
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| 07:51.07 | jagginess | Thomas_, you can ask me in pm, as this is a little offtopic, i was mentioning a open-vm-toolbox package that didnt have any effect for my case (but i think i fixed it now) |
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| 07:53.25 | simonlnu | mattfury: install linux-libc-dev |
| 07:53.48 | simonlnu | and/or kernel headers |
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| 07:54.04 | simonlnu | linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 07:54.31 | simonlnu | ,file asm/system.h |
| 07:54.36 | simonlnu | ,find asm/system.h |
| 07:54.37 | judd | Search for asm/system.h in squeeze/i386: linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common-xen: usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common-xen/arch/x86/include/asm/system.h; linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common-vserver: usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common-vserver/arch/x86/include/asm/system.h; linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common: usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common/arch/x86/include/asm/system.h; linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common-openvz: usr/src |
| 07:54.38 | judd | /linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common-openvz/arch/x86/include/asm/system.h |
| 07:54.40 | judd | Search for asm/system.h in squeeze/i386: linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common-xen: usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common-xen/arch/x86/include/asm/system.h; linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common-vserver: usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common-vserver/arch/x86/include/asm/system.h; linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common: usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common/arch/x86/include/asm/system.h; linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common-openvz: usr/src |
| 07:54.41 | judd | /linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common-openvz/arch/x86/include/asm/system.h |
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| 07:54.50 | simonlnu | doh.. |
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| 07:55.29 | simonlnu | mattfury: ^^^ |
| 07:55.33 | babilen | mah454: You have to tell us more about what you are actually doing (e.g. which tools your have to use or in which context you do this). Otherweise accept the following answer: "Just remove it. http://www.sample.com/ is just fine" |
| 07:55.43 | babilen | !tell mattfury -about apt-file |
| 07:55.56 | mah454 | sorry ! |
| 07:56.03 | babilen | mattfury: Looks as if you are compiling a driver, mind if I ask why? |
| 07:56.10 | mah454 | this question is not for this channel ! |
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| 07:56.55 | mattfury | simonlnu, babilen: im compiling kernel 3.6.0 against drivers that im using |
| 07:57.11 | mattfury | already removed a heap of firewire junk i didnt need |
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| 07:57.23 | mattfury | except this a pci/something |
| 07:57.55 | babilen | mattfury: Are you sure that the drivers can be used with 3.6.0 ? |
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| 07:58.35 | mattfury | babilen, the tag says 2.6.x but im forcing it in :) |
| 07:59.52 | simonlnu | oy |
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| 08:00.47 | future28 | Hey guys, after updating my kernel, my wireless wont work, how can I go about configuring it? |
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| 08:01.11 | future28 | It just says 'device not ready' in the gnome network manager |
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| 08:24.11 | mah454 | Hello |
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| 08:24.41 | mah454 | can use iptables with this syntax : iptables -A INPUT -d *.google.com -j ACCEPT |
| 08:24.51 | mah454 | I need accept all domain for google.com |
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| 08:29.13 | SiDz | no you cant, you can use iptables with a host, but it will resolv the host then switch to ip |
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| 08:32.02 | dutchfish | mah454, sure you can, http://paste.debian.net/196854/ |
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| 08:36.51 | babilen | future28: Which kernel did you install, what is your wireless adaptor and does, say, "ifconfig wlan0 up ; iwlist wlan0 scan" work? (assuming the interface is wlan0, rename if necessary) |
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| 08:38.09 | future28 | babilen: 3.2.0-0.bpo.3-amd64 |
| 08:38.52 | future28 | babilen; output to that command is: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 132 |
| 08:38.53 | future28 | wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down |
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| 08:40.02 | babilen | future28: I take it that you rebooted, which wireless adaptor do you use? (lspci -nn|grep -i network) Does it need firmware? (aptitude versions '~i~n^firmware') |
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| 08:40.57 | babilen | future28: Oh, that might not have been clear. Could you paste the output of the aforementioned commands (if more than 2/3 lines) to http://paste.debian.net please? |
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| 08:45.42 | future28 | babilen: 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) [168c:002b] (rev 01) |
| 08:45.46 | future28 | for the first command |
| 08:46.44 | future28 | Babilen: Package firmware-linux-nonfree: |
| 08:46.46 | future28 | i 0.35~bpo60+1 squeeze-backports 100 |
| 08:46.48 | future28 | Package firmware-realtek: |
| 08:46.52 | future28 | i 0.35~bpo60+1 squeeze-backports 100 |
| 08:46.53 | future28 | Maybe I should have pasted, sorry |
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| 08:48.27 | babilen | future28: Yes (counting is hard, I know) -- I'd also like to see the output of "modprobe -r ath9k ; modprobe ath9k ; dmesg|tail -n42", "ifconfig -a", "iwconfig" and "apt-get moo" -- Unfortnately I have to leave now, but will be back soonish™ |
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| 08:49.33 | babilen | future28: FWIW, I don't see a clear reason why that device shouldn't work anymore. Could it be that you use a hardware killswitch? Could you also install the rfkill package and run "rfkill list" ? |
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| 08:52.01 | future28 | Sure |
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| 08:53.41 | utab | I upgraded my system to testing and now it hangs on boot up |
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| 08:53.51 | utab | I can get into recovery mode as root |
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| 08:54.15 | utab | however I am not sure where to start looking for the problem |
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| 08:56.06 | jagginess | Thomas_, http://adminthoughtcollection.blogspot.ca/2011/12/vmware-player-vs-virtual-network-editor.html |
| 08:56.40 | jagginess | Thomas_, it may not be packaged in the vmplayer anymore, but some people extract it from a .cab (see that url post) |
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| 09:00.34 | solstis | hi, guys |
| 09:00.39 | solstis | i'm running debian testing with xfce |
| 09:00.44 | solstis | wicd periodically disconnects me from the current wi-fi network |
| 09:00.51 | solstis | and then connects me back again |
| 09:01.02 | solstis | how can i avoid this? |
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| 09:01.24 | future28 | babilen, as you requested: http://paste.debian.net/196859/ I even included the moo! |
| 09:01.28 | nmschulte | solstis: are you sure it's "wicd disconnecting you"? |
| 09:01.36 | nmschulte | solstis: and not a poor link? |
| 09:02.03 | babilen | future28: Ok, you need to run the modprobe command as root (or prefix *both* with sudo if you use that) |
| 09:02.07 | solstis | it happens to me with 3 wi-fi networks in different places |
| 09:02.17 | solstis | usually the router is a meter away from me |
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| 09:02.31 | solstis | the speed (when connected) is fine |
| 09:02.33 | solstis | just |
| 09:02.45 | solstis | wicd decides to reauthenticate the connection somehow |
| 09:03.11 | babilen | future28: Hmm, that doesn't look too bad. What does "ifconfig wlan0 down ; ifconfig wlan0 up" followed by "iwlist wlan0 scan" give you? |
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| 09:04.18 | babilen | solstis: I know that this probably isn't what you want to hear, but you might want to try network-manager (in particular the version in backports). Also check #wicd and/or http://bugs.debian.org for applicable reports. |
| 09:04.45 | future28 | babilen: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 132 |
| 09:05.10 | future28 | babilen: wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down |
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| 09:05.35 | solstis | #wicd is silent so far, i've looked through the bug reports without finding my problem, and .. i'm also thinking of network-manager |
| 09:05.40 | babilen | future28: Ok, what about "rfkill list" and the modprobe commands as root? (and please use http://paste.debian.net as it is easier to reference information) |
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| 09:06.12 | solstis | can it run without a gui |
| 09:06.31 | solstis | you know, just in case |
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| 09:06.55 | babilen | solstis: The thing is that development of wicd stalled some time ago, but some people took over again. AFAIUI it was on-par with NM *some time ago*, but that NM has seen major changes and works (much?) better than wicd (or at least than before) |
| 09:08.13 | solstis | ok |
| 09:08.18 | solstis | thank you! :) |
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| 09:08.29 | babilen | solstis: That is the only drawback of NM -- It can run without a GUI and "system connections" / "connections available to all users" will be active if you are not logged in. There is, however, no nice ncurses TUI as there is for wicd. (well, there wasn't last time I checked many moons ago) |
| 09:09.13 | solstis | i see |
| 09:09.22 | solstis | i'll give it a try |
| 09:09.27 | solstis | tuansk |
| 09:09.48 | solstis | *thanks |
| 09:10.43 | future28 | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/196862/ |
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| 09:10.59 | future28 | babilen, I will be back soon |
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| 09:11.11 | babilen | future28: No, wait |
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| 09:12.49 | babilen | future28: Your wireless is "Soft blocked" -- Please run "rfkill unblock 0" and "rfkill unblock 4" -- Continue with the modprobe commands and the interfaces should be usable |
| 09:12.50 | nmschulte | solstis: he left! you could eliminate wicd and NM and just use /etc/network/interfaces w/ wpa_supplicant if needed and see if it's just the link quality |
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| 09:39.04 | milligan | Are there any wine repositories that will give me bleeding edge wine in squeeze? |
| 09:39.55 | future28 | babilen |
| 09:39.58 | future28 | I ran those, what now> |
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| 09:46.52 | future28 | babilen, I did what you said and also rebooted and it appears my wireless is still not working |
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| 10:04.02 | bullgard4 | Using phpMyAdmin, how can I delete a mysql table? |
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| 10:09.08 | digdilem | view the table and tick, then at the bottom select delete |
| 10:10.16 | Sm0ke0ut | or just SQL > `DROP <table>;` |
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| 10:10.52 | bullgard4 | digdilem: What do you mean by "tick"? |
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| 10:20.06 | azar | can we run "rup" command in debian |
| 10:20.07 | azar | ? |
| 10:20.55 | sephii | azar: http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=rup&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any |
| 10:22.29 | azar | sephii: thx alot |
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| 10:31.27 | brokencycle | Hi! |
| 10:31.41 | piecemkr | hi |
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| 10:39.24 | brokencycle | I would like to install a pair of disks with Squeeze/amd64, but have only a machine that supports i386 (the disks are to be moved to a different box later). What would be the best way to do it, please? |
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| 10:41.29 | McClein | hi, I'm trying to understand ptp vnp and I'd like to know where to set my external ip and my lan ip |
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| 10:41.59 | dutchfish | azar, rstat-client: /usr/bin/rup |
| 10:42.11 | brokencycle | McClein: You want to do what? |
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| 10:43.17 | McClein | i want to reach a pc which has an external and internal ip |
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| 10:43.20 | thomas`- | Hi everyone is the following command supposed to install VIM? "aptitude install vim" |
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| 10:43.44 | McClein | apt-get install vim thomas |
| 10:43.56 | thomas`- | "No candidate version found for vim" |
| 10:44.11 | brokencycle | thomas`-: "apt-cache search vim", then pick one |
| 10:44.20 | brokencycle | and apt-get install it |
| 10:45.10 | thomas`- | Is there any advantage to using apt-get instead of aptitude? |
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| 10:45.59 | brokencycle | thomas`-: apt-get is much more conservative. I had aptitude break my system every once in a while, but then, I also have repositories up to 'experimental' in my sources.list |
| 10:46.00 | dutchfish | thomas`-, not really, i tend to use aptitude for every day use and apt-get on dist-upgrading |
| 10:46.00 | thomas`- | brokencycle, I did what you said and it says "vim-common is already the newest version" |
| 10:46.25 | thomas`- | oh ok |
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| 10:47.03 | thomas`- | for some reason my system wont let me install anything |
| 10:47.04 | brokencycle | thomas`-: then try "vim" on the command line. If it doesn't work, pick another package, like eg. vim-gtk (if in doubt, "apt-cache show package" will give you more info about your target) |
| 10:47.23 | brokencycle | thomas`-: you need to either be root, or sudo things |
| 10:47.29 | thomas`- | command not found |
| 10:47.35 | brokencycle | huh? |
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| 10:47.39 | thomas`- | Im signed on as root |
| 10:48.05 | thomas`- | hm, there seems to be vim.tiny |
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| 10:48.36 | brokencycle | vim.tiny is not a good choice if you want the power of vim. It's rather only a modern vi. |
| 10:48.46 | brokencycle | imho |
| 10:48.46 | bullgard4 | Sm0ke0ut: »DROP TABLE `Tabelle6` WHERE 1« obtains: "You have an error in your SQL syntax." -- What's wrong? |
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| 10:49.49 | McClein | brokencycle, i'm inside my lan now at home, but if i leave home i'll have to reach my pc through external an internal ip |
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| 10:52.00 | McClein | omg 1150 people! :O |
| 10:52.13 | thomas`- | man what is up with this installation: apt-get install gcc-4.4-base ---> it says gcc-4.4-base is already the newest versions... but at the command like i type gcc.. command not found |
| 10:52.34 | carrera | Greetings! :) |
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| 10:52.40 | McClein | hi carrera |
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| 10:52.46 | brokencycle | McClein: your setup is dsl + nat? then use port forwarding for SSH |
| 10:52.52 | Mechdave_ | thomas`-, you need build-essential |
| 10:52.54 | carrera | Hi McClein, how is it going? |
| 10:52.55 | brokencycle | easiest way |
| 10:53.08 | McClein | do you mean a ssh tunnel brokencycle ? |
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| 10:53.19 | McClein | fine carrera |
| 10:53.24 | dutchfish | thomas`-, just install gcc | `aptitude install gcc` |
| 10:53.29 | McClein | thomas you need another packaage |
| 10:53.44 | nmschulte | aptitude install build-essential |
| 10:53.59 | brokencycle | McClein: assumed setup: internet - public ip [dsl/cable router] private ip - your pc |
| 10:54.23 | Mechdave_ | oops, I am in Debian... Not Ubuntu |
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| 10:54.36 | McClein | that's what i wanted to know thank you so much brokencycle, which port should i use? 1723? |
| 10:54.39 | Voyager_MP | test |
| 10:54.39 | Mechdave_ | thomas`-, you need to install gcc |
| 10:54.43 | PeacEandLovE | LMDE is the better ;) |
| 10:54.47 | brokencycle | you can then use port forwarding for relevant ports to ssh into your home box, or maybe also use openvpn, or you can probably terminate an ipsec tunnel at your router's side (but I would not trust that). |
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| 10:55.06 | thomas`- | everytime i type it it says "No candidate version for gcc" |
| 10:55.15 | brokencycle | Hmm? You can choose whichever port you like, then "bend" it as you need. |
| 10:55.25 | McClein | ok |
| 10:55.30 | brokencycle | provided you have some control over the router. |
| 10:55.40 | willcode1orfoo | Debian |
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| 10:55.50 | thomas`- | "No candidate version found for build-essential" when i try to install them |
| 10:55.54 | thomas`- | whats up with that? |
| 10:56.00 | McClein | thomas type sudo apt-get install gcc and press tab key twice |
| 10:56.07 | brokencycle | hmmm... any typs for switching archs in squeeze? |
| 10:56.15 | brokencycle | s/typs/tips/ |
| 10:56.24 | McClein | thomas, then write the entire name |
| 10:56.27 | willcode1orfoo | debian |
| 10:56.33 | brokencycle | ie, install i386, then go amd64? |
| 10:56.47 | willcode1orfoo | linux |
| 10:57.04 | brokencycle | also, does anyone have experience with the 3.2 kernels in a server setting? |
| 10:57.05 | thomas`- | McClein, Im already logged in as root account |
| 10:57.15 | willcode1orfoo | ;=) |
| 10:57.26 | McClein | then don't use sudo thomas |
| 10:57.29 | thomas`- | sudo: command not found |
| 10:57.41 | thomas`- | :( |
| 10:57.58 | willcode1orfoo | apt-get install sudo |
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| 10:58.05 | thomas`- | When I did the installation my network wasnt working so I dont think I set up a mirror yet |
| 10:58.09 | toolunious | and edit /etc/group |
| 10:58.13 | thomas`- | Could that possible be the issue im having here |
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| 10:58.34 | themill | dpkg: tell thomas`- about make squeeze sources.list |
| 10:58.36 | brokencycle | thomas`-: if you are root, you don't need sudo |
| 10:58.38 | thomas`- | toolunious, wow that actually did work |
| 10:58.48 | willcode1orfoo | :)} |
| 10:59.16 | toolunious | thomas, you need to be in the sudo group to use sudo.. np |
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| 10:59.55 | carrera | Is unar a decent package for rar and other archives or is there a better package? |
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| 11:01.02 | brokencycle | carrera: i have yet to find a decent package to handle rar. better tell your windows buddies to use something else instead, eg. 7zip or xz |
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| 11:01.44 | brokencycle | can't remember unpacking more than, say, a handful out of a ton of rars with some success... |
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| 11:03.32 | thomas`- | Do you know what package contains the program "less"? |
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| 11:04.21 | thomas`- | I have "more but not "less" command its strange |
| 11:04.24 | dutchfish | thomas`-, what about less? |
| 11:04.41 | McClein | thank you so much brokencycle have a nice day |
| 11:05.10 | thomas`- | E: Package 'less' has no installation candidate |
| 11:05.11 | sys_fail | debianutils maybe |
| 11:05.17 | thomas`- | ^ I dont understand what that means |
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| 11:05.49 | toolunious | !less |
| 11:05.50 | dpkg | [less] a program on Unix and Unix-like systems used to view (but not change) the contents of a text file one screen at a time. It is similar to <more>, but has the extended capability of allowing both forward and backward navigation through the file. Unlike vi (which can also be used to view files), less does not need to read the entire file before starting, resulting in faster load times with large files. |
| 11:06.19 | themill | thomas`-: your sources.list isn't right. See what dpkg told you. |
| 11:06.22 | toolunious | are you working recently installed system? |
| 11:06.29 | sys_fail | oh |
| 11:06.31 | sys_fail | its just less |
| 11:06.38 | sys_fail | sudo apt-get install less |
| 11:06.48 | sys_fail | and what themill said |
| 11:06.51 | thomas`- | toolunious, yeah i just installed it an hour ago |
| 11:06.52 | toolunious | I think thoma's sources/.list is incomplete |
| 11:06.57 | thomas`- | I dont think my mirror was setup right |
| 11:07.00 | toolunious | you need to add some sources |
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| 11:07.36 | toolunious | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:07.37 | toolunious | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:07.37 | toolunious | deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian squeeze main |
| 11:07.37 | toolunious | deb-src http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian squeeze main |
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| 11:07.53 | thomas`- | hehe |
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| 11:08.03 | thomas`- | I dont understand where to put these lines toolunious |
| 11:08.03 | toolunious | oh TIL |
| 11:08.15 | toolunious | /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 11:08.19 | toolunious | BUT |
| 11:08.22 | toolunious | you ned to be careful |
| 11:08.45 | toolunious | I use squeeze for example |
| 11:09.14 | toolunious | I think the lines you need are just commented |
| 11:09.22 | toolunious | you need to comment them out? |
| 11:10.11 | thomas`- | The lines in my file are different to the 4 you posted above |
| 11:10.29 | thomas`- | i only have the first 2 |
| 11:10.31 | thomas`- | the update ones |
| 11:11.15 | brokencycle | thomas`-: You need the other ones as well |
| 11:11.38 | toolunious | thomas, .. what brokencycle said |
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| 11:12.04 | thomas`- | and mine have security. subdomain |
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| 11:12.20 | thomas`- | deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main |
| 11:12.27 | toolunious | that's okay |
| 11:12.29 | toolunious | even better |
| 11:12.30 | thomas`- | ok i'll just change them all |
| 11:12.45 | toolunious | but you need the ones without /updates as well |
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| 11:16.41 | thomas`- | toolunious, do i need to do any commands to trigger the new updated list? |
| 11:17.37 | thomas`- | E: Package 'less' has no installation candidate |
| 11:17.46 | thomas`- | mustnt have worked |
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| 11:19.48 | toolunious | apt-get update |
| 11:20.13 | toolunious | :q: |
| 11:20.29 | toolunious | thomas, apt-get update |
| 11:21.18 | thomas`- | thx |
| 11:21.21 | sys_fail | did it work? |
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| 11:21.42 | thomas`- | dunno its doing a big update by the looks |
| 11:21.56 | sys_fail | are you on a VPS? |
| 11:21.59 | sys_fail | home server? |
| 11:22.01 | sys_fail | local box? |
| 11:22.28 | thomas`- | Its a VMware machine on my Windows laptop :) |
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| 11:22.37 | sys_fail | where did you get the image? |
| 11:23.09 | thomas`- | debian-6.0.6-i386-netinst.iso |
| 11:23.14 | sys_fail | kk |
| 11:23.29 | thomas`- | i know why it messed up.. its because i didnt have an internet connection when i did the installation |
| 11:23.31 | toolunious | yeah, i presumed that it was a netinstall. Had the same problem |
| 11:24.00 | toolunious | only I thought I got that poor sources.list because I installed without any network (had no drivers for wireless network card) |
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| 11:24.17 | toolunious | hahaah |
| 11:24.21 | toolunious | yeah, me too :D |
| 11:24.34 | thomas`- | hehe |
| 11:24.43 | thomas`- | Its comforting to know im not the only one |
| 11:24.49 | thomas`- | hey it works man |
| 11:24.56 | toolunious | nice |
| 11:25.00 | thomas`- | great!! thank you very much :) |
| 11:25.02 | toolunious | less all the way |
| 11:25.07 | toolunious | np |
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| 11:31.15 | kenj | Where can I get a cheap Debian server (VPS) from? |
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| 11:33.01 | Bijan-E | hi, how to find to what package a specific file belongs? (/usr/share/dic/words for example) |
| 11:33.14 | Bijan-E | hi, how to find to what package a specific file belongs to? (/usr/share/dic/words for example) |
| 11:33.16 | Sm0ke0ut | google? |
| 11:33.41 | Bijan-E | already tried, didn't help |
| 11:33.46 | Sm0ke0ut | really? |
| 11:33.56 | Sm0ke0ut | wordlist |
| 11:34.08 | Sm0ke0ut | second hit in google when I entered your specified path |
| 11:34.52 | Bijan-E | Sm0ke0ut, oh, that was an example. i'm seeking for a command for it |
| 11:35.23 | lord_rob | apt-file |
| 11:35.50 | lord_rob | IIRC I never use that program |
| 11:36.13 | blubberdiblub | Bijan-E, if it's already installed, dpkg -S /path/to/file |
| 11:36.17 | Voyager_MP | @Bijan-E apt-file search /bin/exe |
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| 11:37.01 | Bijan-E | blubberdiblub, thanks, that was it :) |
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| 11:41.36 | nkuttler | !tell Bijan-E about search |
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| 11:44.07 | Bijan-E | nkuttler, thanks, hope/try to search way better next time before asking :) |
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| 11:47.14 | sys_fail | oh god |
| 11:47.21 | sys_fail | first time configuring a kernel |
| 11:47.48 | deego | Is relatime the default in squeeze? http://superuser.com/questions/318293/how-to-know-if-noatime-or-relatime-is-default-mount-option-in-kernel <-- I did this test, and the second access indeed doesn't seem to modify the access time. |
| 11:48.59 | nsadmin | deego, no |
| 11:49.35 | nsadmin | what does that show? |
| 11:50.08 | deego | nsadmin: I am using ext4. The second 'cat test.txt' does /not/ modify the atime at all for me. |
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| 11:50.19 | deego | nsadmin: stock squeeze 2.6.32 kernel |
| 11:50.27 | deego | with defaults as the mount options. |
| 11:51.09 | deego | (amd64) |
| 11:51.35 | deego | The first 'cat test.txt' does modify the atime. |
| 11:52.21 | carrera | brokencycle, thanks but, unfortunately, I can't tell'em that |
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| 11:53.22 | blubberdiblub | i think relatime has been the default for some time. it doesn't change most program's semantics, so it's quite safe |
| 11:53.43 | deego | blubberdiblub: Ah, thanks. |
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| 11:54.19 | deego | blubberdiblub: Glad to learn. I was going through all my partitions on all machines and adding that option.. to try to improve performance. :P |
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| 11:55.17 | deego | blubberdiblub: In that case, why doesn't it show up in /proc/mounts? For example, /dev/sda10 /var ext4 rw,relatime,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0 |
| 11:55.23 | blubberdiblub | deego, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/17844/when-was-relatime-made-the-default |
| 11:55.41 | deego | err, it does too, sorry |
| 11:55.49 | blubberdiblub | deego, it does show up for me. and it does show up in your line, too |
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| 11:56.16 | deego | :) |
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| 12:00.32 | plantd | in gentoo there is a way to tell portage to download the source for the most recent version |
| 12:00.41 | plantd | is there anything similar in debian? |
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| 12:01.12 | blubberdiblub | plantd, try: apt-get source packagename |
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| 12:01.41 | blubberdiblub | depends on what you mean by "most recent version", tho |
| 12:01.45 | plantd | blubberdiblub, that will get me the source but i want the latest source or even binary |
| 12:01.51 | hays_ | I am running Debian 6 and added an ecdsa key to .ssh/authorized_keys and for some reason its not authenticating. Is ECDSA disabled in Debian 6? |
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| 12:02.31 | sys_fail | hays_: check /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 12:02.46 | sys_fail | and make sure the permissions are correct if thats not the problem |
| 12:03.02 | sys_fail | then run it with the "-vvv" option to be more verbose |
| 12:03.15 | plantd | how good are the random in /dev/random ? |
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| 12:03.46 | hays_ | sys_fail: just looking for PubkeyAuthentication yes ? |
| 12:03.59 | sys_fail | plantd: not sure, I think its based off entropy your system generates |
| 12:04.00 | plantd | hays_, does it work with rsa keys? |
| 12:04.03 | plantd | or dsa |
| 12:04.11 | sys_fail | hays_: sec let me check my config |
| 12:04.15 | plantd | sys_fail, it's a server |
| 12:04.42 | sys_fail | plantd: look into haveged |
| 12:04.49 | hays_ | sys_fail: I guess I should check. I just have ecdsa keys everywhere and this is a new system im bringing into the fold as it were :) |
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| 12:06.18 | sys_fail | Note that sshd(8) will refuse to use a file if it is group/world-accessible. |
| 12:06.37 | blubberdiblub | plantd, /dev/random is quite random. but the entropy pool is easily depleted if you want to get data from there quite often and you don't have a hardware random source |
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| 12:06.52 | sys_fail | blubberdiblub: haveged should help I think |
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| 12:07.10 | sys_fail | for those times when you are ssh'ing and can't wiggle the mouse |
| 12:07.15 | hays_ | sys_fail: RSA works |
| 12:07.17 | plantd | i have one server with a hardware random generator with the ability to extend that servers /dev/random entropy to other servers on the network |
| 12:07.23 | plantd | which is pretty cool |
| 12:07.29 | hays_ | sys_fail: so apparently that's answered my question |
| 12:07.31 | plantd | hays_, stick with rsa then |
| 12:07.44 | tzarc | authorized_keys2 is required for dsa, no? |
| 12:07.48 | blubberdiblub | sys_fail, isn't that a hardware random source? |
| 12:07.49 | tzarc | with the '2' |
| 12:07.58 | hays_ | good news is that I can have two keys on the other machine and it will try both |
| 12:08.08 | hays_ | so I can keep ecdsa for my other authentications |
| 12:08.23 | tzarc | authorized_keys is for earlier 1.x ssh protocols from memory |
| 12:08.31 | plantd | sys_fail, are the bits generated for your symmetric cipher in the ssh session gotten from /dev/random or /dev/urandom |
| 12:08.40 | sys_fail | Haveged was created to remedy low-entropy conditions in the Linux random device that can occur under some workloads, especially on headless servers. |
| 12:08.45 | plantd | something tells me it's from /dev/urandom ... something i once read |
| 12:08.45 | tzarc | although it wouldn't surprise me if it doesn't matter any more |
| 12:08.49 | tzarc | *shrugs* |
| 12:09.01 | plantd | tzarc, it doesn't |
| 12:09.02 | plantd | where have you been! |
| 12:09.03 | sys_fail | plantd: no idea |
| 12:09.25 | tzarc | stuck in my silly habitual world ;) |
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| 12:13.06 | plantd | i remember some weaknesses being discovered in /dev/random |
| 12:13.17 | plantd | anyone else recall anytihng like that? |
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| 12:15.35 | melissublime | hi.i am using phoronix test suit.phoronix has several tests like pts/aio-stress - AIO-Stress Disk |
| 12:15.35 | melissublime | pts/apache - Apache Benchmark System |
| 12:15.35 | melissublime | pts/apitrace - APITrace Graphics |
| 12:15.35 | melissublime | pts/battery-power-usage - Battery Power Usage System |
| 12:15.35 | melissublime | pts/blogbench - BlogBench Disk |
| 12:15.35 | melissublime | pts/bork - Bork File Encrypter Processor |
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| 12:16.41 | tzarc | one wonders why they didn't go to #phoronix |
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| 12:17.01 | plantd | i was thinking moronid |
| 12:17.02 | plantd | moronix |
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| 12:17.33 | plantd | would i trust my secrets to the bork file encrypter |
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| 12:18.04 | melissublime | where i can find the meaning and analyzes of phoronix tests? |
| 12:18.16 | tzarc | try #phoronix |
| 12:18.17 | melissublime | tests like aio-stress |
| 12:18.39 | tzarc | other than that, read the docs/code... same as everything else |
| 12:18.39 | maxxe | i have never had any use of my encrypted partition. don't know what to put there =) |
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| 12:19.41 | bolt | maxxe: everything |
| 12:19.55 | maxxe | got nothing to hide |
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| 12:20.06 | plantd | hahahah |
| 12:20.08 | plantd | no family recipes? |
| 12:20.28 | Aim_Here | What's your credit card number? |
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| 12:21.00 | bolt | maxxe: you've got an identity you'd like to keep. you've got photos you don't want some creepy stranger going through, you've got saved passwords in your browser, you've got all sorts of stuff |
| 12:21.26 | bolt | maxxe: just because you're not breaking the law doesn't mean you want to give people access to everything you have on your computer |
| 12:21.31 | Aim_Here | How does bolt know all that? |
| 12:21.35 | maxxe | well well that is if someone actually steals the computer =) |
| 12:21.43 | bolt | Aim_Here: because maxxe doesn't encrypt anything :P |
| 12:22.10 | bolt | maxxe: of course it is. but that is a possibility, however unlikely it is. |
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| 12:22.42 | maxxe | i am not paranoid =) |
| 12:22.55 | bolt | do you lock your door? |
| 12:23.14 | maxxe | don't ask stupid questions |
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| 12:23.26 | Aim_Here | Doesn't matter, they're still out to get ylu |
| 12:23.32 | bolt | so locking your door is obvious, but locking your computer isn't? |
| 12:23.56 | maxxe | is it the data security? encrypt everything? :D |
| 12:24.02 | bolt | how likely do you think it is that some random individual with malicious intent is just going to try and open your door? how often does that happen, really? |
| 12:24.11 | bolt | so why lock it? |
| 12:24.28 | bolt | same reason you lock everything down. just in case. |
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| 12:24.34 | plantd | bolt, that we have to defend our use of cryptography is a sign of rising totalitarianism! |
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| 12:25.08 | bolt | plantd: the problem is "nothing to hide" being synonymous with "not into illegal shit" |
| 12:25.20 | Aim_Here | Locking everything means it's hard to find thee stuff that needs locking |
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| 12:28.29 | McClein | hi, i'm trying to test a vpn, what ip should i type in gateway in network manager? the router ip? external IP? internal IP? |
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| 12:29.00 | bolt | McClein: try using a bridge so you can use your normal dhcp server and get the gateway from that |
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| 12:29.57 | bolt | McClein: the gateway ip should be your gateway's ip btw... that's in most cases the router closest to the machine you're using vpn to get access from, and the same one that machine is likely to be using |
| 12:30.02 | McClein | bolt, with bridge do you mean a ssh tunnel? i tried ssh -L 1723:externalIP:1723 target ip and it doesn't work |
| 12:30.33 | bolt | McClein: no. you said vpn. i mean a vpn configured as a bridge |
| 12:30.39 | McClein | bolt i don't know what gateway means |
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| 12:30.58 | McClein | i can't understand you bolt |
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| 12:31.23 | Quibus | hi |
| 12:31.37 | Quibus | I am trying to install Debian on my laptop which has an emtpy hard drive |
| 12:31.47 | bolt | McClein: a gateway is a network node you route your packages through to reach other nodes behind it |
| 12:31.50 | Quibus | I only have access to a Windows PC at the moment |
| 12:32.08 | bolt | McClein: in most cases, your router will act as a gateway to pretty much the rest of the internet |
| 12:32.25 | Quibus | somiaj, I used a Windows port of dd to write the boot.img to an USB stick, put the netinst ISO on it and tried to boot the laptop from it. But the laptop just says BOOTMGR is missing |
| 12:32.27 | maxxe | bolt: the computer is still password protected. if i have such intresting things on my computer that they want to bypass that, then i would think of encryption. windows doesn't even have some built in function for encryption, so many goes unencrypted, not only me =) |
| 12:32.30 | Quibus | any ideas |
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| 12:32.44 | Quibus | s/somiaj/so |
| 12:32.47 | bolt | McClein: i suggest you read up on this a bit before you configure your vpn, as a vpn configured by someone with little knowledge on the subjects involved is likely to be very insecure |
| 12:32.55 | McClein | bolt I'm dealing with 3 IP's my own IP (internal) my isp ip (external) and the target ip, where should i configure them |
| 12:33.04 | bolt | maxxe: bitlocker? |
| 12:33.12 | McClein | bolt i read a lot but i can't understand |
| 12:34.01 | McClein | the only place where i can set the ips is in /etc/pptd.conf |
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| 12:34.25 | bolt | maxxe: afaik bitlocker is a built-in encryption service in windows. there also existed encryption of home directories before that. besides, reliable full disk encryption is as far away as downloading truecrypt |
| 12:34.25 | kenj | Jag kan inte tala engelska, är det ett svenskt stödsystem? |
| 12:34.32 | bolt | !swe |
| 12:34.42 | bolt | dpkg, come on |
| 12:34.42 | dpkg | bolt: bugger all, i dunno |
| 12:35.00 | bolt | !swedish |
| 12:35.01 | dpkg | Svensktalande debian-användare hittar du i #debian.se på FreeNode (irc.freenode.net), SE is also the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code for Sweden, it was included in the standard 1974. |
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| 12:35.09 | McClein | if i use my router ip in gateway doesn't work |
| 12:35.11 | kenj | aah okej ty |
| 12:35.16 | kenj | bolt |
| 12:35.18 | bolt | Null problem :) |
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| 12:36.09 | bolt | McClein: then you probably have some other problem. if you're not using a bridged vpn, you'll have to configure routes on the vpn host to make it forward your traffic to the correct places |
| 12:36.30 | hays_ | sorry for the n00b question but i upgraded to wheezy and am noticing this about my sources.list... Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages |
| 12:36.34 | bolt | McClein: you could always use traceroute and see where it stops... or read a different howto than the one you're apparently reading |
| 12:36.36 | hays_ | Is this normal? |
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| 12:36.55 | McClein | thanks bolt |
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| 12:38.30 | McClein | i've been reading 3 days and i couldn't answer some basic questions such as where to set the IPs |
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| 12:39.51 | bolt | McClein: have you thought about using a simple ssh tunnel with dynamic forwarding (-D) instead? |
| 12:40.27 | McClein | i did ssh -v -L 1723:externalIP:1723 target ip and it's not working |
| 12:40.38 | bolt | McClein: if whatever you are running is SOCKS compatible, that'll do it for you. if not, there's always transocks_ev, tsocks or socat, depending on your needs |
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| 12:40.50 | bolt | McClein: how is it not working? |
| 12:41.02 | McClein | connection refused |
| 12:41.18 | McClein | i can ssh to myself but not the target machine |
| 12:41.36 | McClein | i checked the firewall |
| 12:41.37 | bolt | McClein: well if you can't ssh to the target machine, you will not be able to open an ssh tunnel through it |
| 12:41.49 | McClein | i see |
| 12:42.13 | bolt | McClein: fix ssh first, then try tunneling to wherever you want to get from that machine |
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| 12:42.35 | McClein | i'll work on it, thanks by now bolt |
| 12:43.03 | hays_ | So Fail2Ban seems unecessary if I am not permitting ssh password logins? |
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| 12:44.44 | bolt | hays_: bruteforcing even a sub-par password policy is a pointless endeavour. fail2ban only gets the automated attacks that try stuff like admin//admin, guest//guest, root//password, root//god, root//sex, etc. useless. |
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| 12:45.47 | Shanx | Hello. |
| 12:45.47 | nkuttler | hays_: well, it could probably save a few resources if somebody is really hammering you |
| 12:45.57 | bolt | true |
| 12:45.57 | themill | letting iptables deal with it saves a lot of noise in your log files too |
| 12:45.59 | Shanx | I need some help for my wifi. |
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| 12:46.11 | hays_ | bolt: given that my passwords are all securely generated >10 digit passwords from lastpass im probably good then heh |
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| 12:46.47 | Shanx | I have a Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 |
| 12:46.56 | Shanx | And I can't have wifi. |
| 12:47.01 | nkuttler | hays_: what's lastpass? |
| 12:47.05 | hays_ | well ok this morning I installed and "secured" my server. |
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| 12:47.38 | nkuttler | hays_: if you're getting your passwords from a third party... really hard to be more insecure |
| 12:47.39 | bolt | however, if you have fail2ban while at a security convention or similar, someone might decide it would be fun to lock you out of your own networks by hammering your servers for a bit from the local wifi. you'd have to go somewhere else :) |
| 12:47.41 | Shanx | I installed firmware-iwlwifi, but it didn’t change anything even if it’s, according to the doc, the good driver. |
| 12:47.49 | Shanx | Somebody can help me ? |
| 12:47.56 | hays_ | nkuttler: its a password utility that generates and stores passwords in an encrypted blob in the "cloud" (i know that term can be inflammatory--sorry about that) |
| 12:48.21 | hays_ | bolt: haha |
| 12:48.48 | nkuttler | fail2ban blocks single IPs by default though, not networks |
| 12:49.05 | bolt | nkuttler: but it would quickly block the convention's external ip's |
| 12:49.12 | nkuttler | bolt: ah, right |
| 12:49.45 | hays_ | nkuttler: its not really from a third party |
| 12:50.13 | hays_ | I mean, I suppose they could be lying about what they do, but if they are telling the truth, all the information is generated locally |
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| 12:50.37 | bolt | why use an external service to generate passwords? |
| 12:51.18 | nkuttler | hays_: fwiw, man pwgen |
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| 12:51.41 | nkuttler | or, well, http://xkcd.com/936/ |
| 12:51.57 | hays_ | If I trust them to store the blob, it seems silly not to trust them to have good pw generation code |
| 12:52.01 | plantd | dd if=/dev/random bs=16 count=1 | base64 |
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| 12:52.17 | plantd | 128bit security in a password |
| 12:52.38 | Shanx | Help… ? |
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| 12:53.38 | nkuttler | !tell Shanx about iwlwifi |
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| 12:54.09 | babilen | Shanx: What change were you expecting? Did you reload the module after installing the firmware? Which adaptor do you have exactly? (lspci -nn|grep -i network) |
| 12:54.15 | Shanx | Yeah nkuttler, I have already read all the doc about iwlwifi… |
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| 12:55.11 | hays_ | nkuttler: i understand there is some risk, but I have too many passwords to remember, and using similar/same passwords across a bunch of different websites/accounts everywhere seemed less secure than finding a service I can trust and having every password i have on every account truly random and unique |
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| 12:55.41 | nkuttler | hays_: well to each his own |
| 12:55.55 | hays_ | if the lastpass people are to be trusted, they only ever see the encrypted blob |
| 12:55.56 | nkuttler | Shanx: and relevant dmesg output |
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| 12:56.10 | nkuttler | people can be trusted? |
| 12:56.25 | Shanx | By the way, i'm french, so i don't speak english very well… |
| 12:56.26 | kenj | 4rm4d1110 |
| 12:56.42 | hays_ | nkuttler: well they do (presumably) have a nice reputation and profitable business to protect hehe |
| 12:56.48 | hays_ | i realize it is some risk though |
| 12:56.52 | babilen | hays_: You can generate password locally with a number of tools. (e.g. keepassx, revelation, gpw, apg, ...) |
| 12:57.30 | babilen | Shanx: Do you understand my questions? :) |
| 12:57.35 | Shanx | babilen: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection |
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| 12:57.58 | babilen | Shanx: That is not the output of "lspci -nn|grep -i network" ;) |
| 12:57.59 | Shanx | So I read this page : http://wiki.debian.org/iwlegacy |
| 12:58.05 | kenj | needs a piss. |
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| 12:59.45 | Shanx | babilen: http://paste.tdct.org/index.php?tw |
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| 13:01.03 | babilen | Shanx: Which version of Debian do you use? What kind of change did you expect after installing the firmware? Did you reload the module? |
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| 13:01.55 | Shanx | babilen: wheezy/sid |
| 13:02.04 | Shanx | I expect that my wifi works. :D |
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| 13:02.30 | Shanx | And I don’t know if I reload the module. I use modprode, is it that ? |
| 13:03.08 | nsadmin | Shanx, which? pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.lsit |
| 13:03.15 | nsadmin | list |
| 13:03.57 | babilen | Shanx: yes, that is it. Could you run "modprobe -r iwl4965 ; modprobe iwl4965 ; dmesg|tail -n42" please? Install rfkill and paste the output of the first command and "ifconfig -a", "iwconfig" and "rfkill list" to http://paste.debian.net |
| 13:04.14 | babilen | Shanx: Oh, also tell me how you test if it works or not :) |
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| 13:04.56 | Shanxbis | http://paste.tdct.org/index.php?qg |
| 13:05.07 | Shanxbis | (for nsadmin ) |
| 13:05.29 | Shanx | "modprobe -r iwl4965 ; modprobe iwl4965 ; dmesg|tail -n42 |
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| 13:05.53 | nsadmin | ok, according to that, the one you want to install packages for is wheezy |
| 13:05.54 | babilen | (please create a single paste for all those commands if possible) |
| 13:06.04 | nsadmin | thanx shanx |
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| 13:06.27 | nsadmin | (couldn't resist) |
| 13:07.16 | Shanxbis | babilen: http://paste.tdct.org/index.php?yp |
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| 13:08.31 | babilen | Shanxbis: What about "rfkill list" ? How do you test if you network is working? Can use run "ifconfig wlan0 up ; iwlist wlan0 scan" and do you see your network? |
| 13:08.43 | babilen | s/use/you/ |
| 13:09.05 | Shanxbis | http://paste.tdct.org/index.php?sy babilen |
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| 13:09.46 | Shanxbis | I don't know how to test my wifi, I wait to see it in network-manager. :D |
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| 13:10.12 | babilen | Shanxbis: Ah, you have a hardware kill switch that is enabled. (a little switch that turns wifi on and off). You could try running "rfkill unblock 0" and "rfkill unblock 2", but I am not sure if that can unblock a hardware kill switch. |
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| 13:12.03 | Shanxbis | babilen: I try the last commands you gave, but it didn't do anything. |
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| 13:12.45 | babilen | Shanxbis: yeah, it shouldn't give output. Did you find the hardware switch? What does "rfkill list" give you now? |
| 13:12.53 | nisu369 | hello guys ! |
| 13:13.00 | nisu369 | is debian any better than fedora ? |
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| 13:13.20 | babilen | nisu369: They both have their merits, but Debian is clearly better. ;) |
| 13:13.26 | Shanxbis | babilen: http://paste.tdct.org/index.php?gh |
| 13:13.31 | babilen | !tell nisu369 -about why debian |
| 13:13.33 | nisu369 | @ babilen -> how come ? |
| 13:13.40 | nisu369 | may i know why ? |
| 13:13.41 | Shanxbis | But I don't see any hardware button. |
| 13:13.53 | nisu369 | have been using fedora for a long time. never tried debian. |
| 13:14.01 | nisu369 | may i know the specifics ? |
| 13:14.24 | nsadmin | nisu369, what's a "better"? |
| 13:14.28 | Shanxbis | I only see a tactil button. |
| 13:14.32 | babilen | nisu369: But seriously: You are asking in a Debian channel. All I can say is that Debian has a wonderful packaging system and is a very well engineered distribution that is a pleasure to use. |
| 13:14.40 | Shanxbis | Which doesn't work, of course. |
| 13:14.48 | nisu369 | for development purposes ! |
| 13:15.14 | babilen | Shanxbis: It doesn't? Well, you *do* have a kill switch that is enabled. Which laptop do you have? |
| 13:15.37 | Shanxbis | babilen: how can I see ? |
| 13:15.57 | Shanxbis | It's an old HP someone gave me yesterday. |
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| 13:16.12 | Shanxbis | compaq6910p |
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| 13:16.24 | Shanxbis | (I'm stupid sometimes ><) |
| 13:16.43 | babilen | Shanxbis: Mine looks like this http://ccit.college.columbia.edu/sites/ccit/files/Hardware_Switch.png |
| 13:16.52 | nsadmin | one thing against development, is that some compilers and interpreters are used in the core of debian (depth varies) and it's not easy to install different versions... in the case of C, the compiler installable from packages is the one the compiled most of the other packages |
| 13:17.18 | Shanxbis | Nop babilen, anything like this. |
| 13:17.32 | Shanxbis | Only a tactil button. |
| 13:17.34 | nsadmin | if you can code portably enough to be independent of version, this won't affect you as much |
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| 13:18.07 | nisu369 | yes sure. i'm still a noob as considered development things .... just so want to know how things do work in a debian environment :D |
| 13:18.17 | Saint-Kid | anyone has seen debian 6.0.5 i586 only detects 2GB instead of 3.xG>? |
| 13:18.20 | nisu369 | thanks for that info. will have to check out debian. |
| 13:18.29 | babilen | Shanxbis: What happens if you press the "tactile" button (what is that?) Could you run "rfkill list" before and after pressing it? |
| 13:19.31 | Shanxbis | It doesn't do anything. |
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| 13:19.35 | babilen | nisu369: http://debian-handbook.info/ is a wonderful book on Debian -- If you need help/tips for the installation let us know. |
| 13:19.48 | nsadmin | nisu369, one thing about debian's stability, is the packages present when a particular release of debian is released, are very well tested, especially to work with each other |
| 13:19.59 | Shanxbis | But whan I try with Ubuntu, the button was lighted? |
| 13:20.01 | Shanxbis | *. |
| 13:20.22 | nisu369 | @nsadmin - thanks for the link. let me have a look for that :D |
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| 13:20.46 | nsadmin | I didn't give you a link, babilen did |
| 13:21.21 | nisu369 | i'm sorry. didnt look at that. babilen -> thanks. |
| 13:21.37 | Odd0002 | hello |
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| 13:21.54 | nsadmin | no problem :) just offering credit where due |
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| 13:22.30 | Odd0002 | so I installed debian yesterday |
| 13:22.39 | Odd0002 | and then I installed xfce on it |
| 13:22.57 | Odd0002 | and then installed my proprietary ATI drivers |
| 13:23.08 | Odd0002 | and now gnome-terminal doesn't work |
| 13:23.11 | babilen | nisu369: It's just a good resource for Debian, nothing that will immediately change your understanding. |
| 13:23.14 | Odd0002 | in xfce |
| 13:23.23 | babilen | dpkg: tell nisu369 about introduction |
| 13:23.28 | Odd0002 | it opens, but no text is displayed |
| 13:23.34 | Odd0002 | in it |
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| 13:24.10 | Odd0002 | I have xterm but I'd prefer gnome-terminal |
| 13:24.16 | nyuszika7h | hi, what is the default kernel in squeeze? |
| 13:24.16 | babilen | Odd0002: So, that happened after you installed "your" ATI drivers? Did it work before that? How did you install "your" drivers? Where are those drivers from? |
| 13:24.24 | babilen | nyuszika7h: 2.6.32 |
| 13:24.34 | nyuszika7h | ok, thanks |
| 13:24.46 | Odd0002 | babilen: I meant drivers for my graphics card from the ATI website |
| 13:24.53 | nyuszika7h | 6buffer 35 |
| 13:24.54 | Odd0002 | it worked before I installed xfce |
| 13:24.55 | nyuszika7h | oops |
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| 13:25.46 | babilen | Odd0002: Those drivers are not supported *at all* and we don't recommend to install them. The correct way to install fglrx (if you *really* need that as the free radeon driver is just great) is to use the fglrx-driver package. |
| 13:25.57 | Odd0002 | uhh |
| 13:26.06 | babilen | !tell Odd0002 about fglrx-dkms |
| 13:26.12 | babilen | !tell Odd0002 -about radeon |
| 13:26.47 | Odd0002 | my computer is from 2011 and the drivers included with debian don't support my graphics card that well |
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| 13:27.06 | Odd0002 | it has pretty bad resolution without those drivers |
| 13:27.21 | awaxa | im having this weird problem with xen 4 on squeeze - domUs can connect to anything on the (same, /24) subnet except the dom0 (and vice versa) but only when i set them with static ips (on the domU in /etc/network/interfaces) |
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| 13:27.33 | Odd0002 | and I completely forgot there's an flgrx package |
| 13:27.35 | nyuszika7h | how can I stop ufw from logging to messages/kern.log? |
| 13:27.39 | babilen | Odd0002: But back to your initial issue: You could use gnome-terminal just fine in Gnome and you could *still* use it after you've installed and started to use ATI's drivers. It stopped working after you installed XFCE. Is that in Gnome or XFCE or in both? |
| 13:27.40 | Shanxbis | babilen: you don't have any other idea ? |
| 13:27.40 | Odd0002 | thanks, I'll try it |
| 13:27.46 | nyuszika7h | I'd prefer it to have its own log file |
| 13:27.49 | Shanxbis | because i'm lost... |
| 13:28.00 | Odd0002 | babilen: 1 min, let me try in gnome |
| 13:28.25 | babilen | Odd0002: You can install a newer version of Xorg and kernel see <bdo> <bdo kernel> and <bdo xorg> (/msg dpkg bdo) |
| 13:28.34 | babilen | Odd0002: That would be for the radeon driver |
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| 13:29.29 | awaxa | and nothing is being logged by iptables on the dom0, so i'm stumped. it must be some routing type problem? |
| 13:29.29 | nsadmin | awaxa, they'll want to know the answer to "how do you know they can't connect? what exactly happens?" |
| 13:29.42 | awaxa | nsadmin: thanks, one sec |
| 13:29.48 | babilen | Odd0002: The fglrx version in squeeze is 1:10-9-3 with 1:12-6+point-1 in testing/wheezy. My point is that it is typically not necessary to install fglrx unless you need specific features. A newer Xorg and kernel version might be all you need ... |
| 13:30.16 | awaxa | i'll use telnet to port 22 as an example, it's like the packets are dropped |
| 13:30.18 | awaxa | icmp isn't blocked and pings fail too |
| 13:30.24 | Odd0002 | yes, it works in gnome |
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| 13:30.51 | babilen | Odd0002: Another possibility is to upgrade to wheezy (/msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy) which is the current development release. My point is just that we can neither recommend nor support ATI's drivers. |
| 13:30.52 | awaxa | but both the dom0/domU can communicate fine with the gateway and anything else outside of this piece of bare metal |
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| 13:31.01 | babilen | Odd0002: Ok, so the error only occurs if you use XFCE4? |
| 13:31.10 | awaxa | the problem arises when i set the domU to static ip instead of dhcp |
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| 13:31.36 | awaxa | i feel like i missed some setting for the bridged interface or something maybe |
| 13:31.43 | Odd0002 | babilen: wait, I think I know what the problem could be |
| 13:31.50 | babilen | Odd0002: Hmm? |
| 13:31.55 | Odd0002 | colors |
| 13:31.59 | Odd0002 | black on black |
| 13:32.00 | nsadmin | awaxa, it may like you say be a iptables thing, and I'm also suspecting that somethings in the subnet are delaying because theyre not seeing working reverse dns |
| 13:32.03 | babilen | Shanxbis: Ok, let me think. |
| 13:32.21 | kenj | Difference between STable and TEsting? |
| 13:32.37 | Odd0002 | babilen: that's exactly the problem! |
| 13:32.47 | babilen | Shanxbis: To clarify: "ifconfig wlan0 up ; iwlist wlan0 scan" doesn't actually return work? What happens if you use that? |
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| 13:33.06 | kenj | Whatza difference between stable anxd testing |
| 13:33.06 | nsadmin | kenj, stable has already been released, will have security support for awhile then become oldstable |
| 13:33.14 | babilen | Odd0002: Glad we've solved it. I still strongly recommend to *not* use ATI's drivers, but to install them "The Debian way"™ or to use the free drivers. |
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| 13:33.18 | babilen | !tell kenj -about stable |
| 13:33.20 | babilen | !tell kenj -about testing |
| 13:33.29 | Odd0002 | babilen: ok, that's easy |
| 13:33.36 | Odd0002 | run them with --uninstall |
| 13:33.38 | Odd0002 | reboot |
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| 13:33.47 | Odd0002 | then install flgrx, reboot, done |
| 13:33.48 | babilen | kenj: Testing is a development branch and will be the next stable release once we fixed all important bugs. |
| 13:34.22 | Odd0002 | 1 more question |
| 13:34.28 | kenj | There's 52 differnce iso's, which do I pick? |
| 13:34.33 | Odd0002 | how do you stop X11? |
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| 13:34.40 | Odd0002 | gdm3 stop ? |
| 13:34.43 | babilen | Odd0002: I reckon that newer Xorg+kernel+mesa+firmware would support your GPU. You can get that from backports or by upgrading to wheezy ... |
| 13:34.47 | awaxa | ive got iptables logging as the last rule in each of my tables, so i'd know if that was the problem. i'm doubtful that reverse dns could be at play here mostly because it seems like a lower level problem |
| 13:34.49 | babilen | Odd0002: yes |
| 13:34.57 | Odd0002 | babilen: I have testing (wheezy) |
| 13:35.01 | babilen | Odd0002: Well, "service gdm3 stop" |
| 13:35.05 | awaxa | also it still doesn't work if i `iptables -F` |
| 13:35.05 | Odd0002 | ok |
| 13:35.07 | nsadmin | kenj, probably a netinstall... do you want stable or testing? what cpu? |
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| 13:35.26 | babilen | Odd0002: And you card is not supported? Did you install firmware for it and libgl1-mesa-dri? |
| 13:35.31 | Odd0002 | no |
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| 13:35.35 | Odd0002 | this is a fresh install |
| 13:35.35 | kenj | I have AMD FX 32 core processor and 1GB/s |
| 13:35.40 | kenj | WHat do I choose? |
| 13:35.43 | kenj | nsadmin |
| 13:35.59 | babilen | Odd0002: Well, firmware is needed for a lot of cards and you need that and libgl1-mesa-dri for hardware acceleration with the free drivers. |
| 13:36.01 | nsadmin | what are you running now |
| 13:36.08 | mkohler | hi, I installed ruby using the rvm, but now the user "jenkins" can't find ruby : "http://michaelkohler.info:8080/job/ESE2012-team3/36/console |
| 13:36.10 | kenj | Xubuntu |
| 13:36.12 | babilen | kenj: Do you have a working internet connection? |
| 13:36.12 | mkohler | how can I fix thi? |
| 13:36.24 | nsadmin | for how long? |
| 13:36.24 | frikinz | And radeon should not be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/* .. |
| 13:36.24 | kenj | babilen: Yes, I have a 1GB/s connection |
| 13:36.34 | Odd0002 | babilen: wait, so you can install firmware without installing flgrx? |
| 13:36.34 | kenj | 3 years |
| 13:36.40 | babilen | mkohler: I don't think we can support that kind of ruby installation. |
| 13:36.44 | babilen | Odd0002: Sure |
| 13:36.53 | nsadmin | so you have a good amount of experience... |
| 13:37.02 | babilen | !tell Odd0002 about radeon firmware |
| 13:37.02 | frikinz | babilen: Do you know if radeon power management improved ? |
| 13:37.11 | babilen | frikinz: no fucking clue |
| 13:37.15 | mkohler | babilen: okay.. any tips what I could look for anyway? |
| 13:37.24 | nsadmin | I don't know what kind of cpu that is tho |
| 13:37.41 | frikinz | babilen: ok :) last time it was not usable, overheating. I might have to try again |
| 13:37.51 | babilen | kenj: Do you connect via ethernet or wireless? Can you connect via ethernet? On what kind of hardware are you installing? Could you paste the output of "lspci -n ; lspci -nn" to http://paste.debian.net ? |
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| 13:38.05 | nsadmin | you could run stable for awhile so you can get used to everything |
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| 13:38.14 | babilen | ,v jenkins |
| 13:38.15 | judd | Package: jenkins on i386 -- sid: 1.447.2+dfsg-2; wheezy: 1.447.2+dfsg-2 |
| 13:38.23 | babilen | frikinz: That jenkins ^^^ ? |
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| 13:38.28 | babilen | ,i jenkins |
| 13:38.29 | judd | No package named 'jenkins' was found in squeeze/i386. |
| 13:38.32 | babilen | ,i jenkins --release sid |
| 13:38.33 | judd | Package jenkins (java, optional) in sid/i386: Continuous Integration and Job Scheduling Server. Version: 1.447.2+dfsg-2; Size: 18.4k; Installed: 99k; Homepage: http://jenkins-ci.org/ |
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| 13:39.42 | kenj | babilen: 32 core processor AMD, 128GB RAM, 1GB/s connection. and "04:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) [168c:002b] (rev 01)" |
| 13:40.04 | kenj | Look > http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.6/amd64/iso-cd/ 52 different iso files |
| 13:40.06 | babilen | kenj: Could you paste the output of "lspci -n ; lspci -nn" to http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 13:40.22 | nsadmin | would atheros be recognized by recent installers? |
| 13:40.22 | babilen | kenj: I know -- I am trying to gather information so I can recommend the best image for you :) |
| 13:40.32 | babilen | ,pciid 168c:002b |
| 13:40.33 | judd | [168c:002b] is 'AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)' from 'Atheros Communications Inc.' with kernel module 'ath9k' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=168c:002b http://wiki.debian.org/ath9k_htc http://wiki.debian.org/ath9k |
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| 13:41.07 | babilen | That wireless adaptor wants a newer kernel, but should work in squeeze without firmware. |
| 13:41.17 | babilen | (due to #577555) |
| 13:41.28 | kenj | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/196925/ |
| 13:41.37 | babilen | kenj: Thanks, one second please. |
| 13:43.18 | babilen | kenj: How familiar are you with Linux and Ubuntu's/Debian's packaging system? Would you prefer to run a stable release or a development branch? Which desktop environment do you use and which would you like to use if you could choose freely? |
| 13:44.21 | kenj | babilen: I use Xfce, I know how to use APT, I'd prefer stable but fairly new, not too old if possible. |
| 13:44.38 | kenj | ... and would like to use Xfce. |
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| 13:46.44 | babilen | kenj: Ok, you have two options as you essentially need a newer kernel. The first is to install stable/squeeze and upgrade selected components from backports (/msg dpkg bdo ; /msg dpkg backports) and the other is to use testing/wheezy (currently frozen development release) |
| 13:47.37 | kenj | I'll use testing then. |
| 13:47.59 | kenj | The problem is, my graphics card doesn't work with Debian. |
| 13:48.07 | kenj | (I only tried the stable release.) |
| 13:48.20 | kenj | I installed drivers, Radeon packages, etc, but nothing. |
| 13:48.29 | babilen | kenj: It does, but you need to install a newer kernel and/or Xorg which is possible in stable. |
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| 13:49.52 | babilen | kenj: I guess that using testing is OK these days but you don't have to. Just pay attention to what is happening when you upgrade and upgrade regularly. |
| 13:49.56 | kenj | babilen: And which one? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 13:50.22 | kenj | oops nvm |
| 13:50.27 | kenj | didn't read the names :P |
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| 13:50.45 | kenj | babilen: Thanks for your help |
| 13:50.54 | babilen | wait a second |
| 13:51.38 | jesser | i'm doing an install of Etch … netinst cd image … none of the offered mirrors work ("does not have a valid Release file on it"). Any ideas what I should enter? Guessed "archive.debian.org" and "/debian" but no darts. |
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| 13:52.48 | sney | !etch sources.list |
| 13:52.49 | dpkg | i heard etch sources.list is "deb http://archive.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free" and "deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-security etch/updates main contrib non-free". But realise that Etch has not had security support since February 2010 and that you should upgrade to a newer release. Ask me about <etch->lenny>. |
| 13:52.51 | babilen | kenj: Please download the beta installer *and firmware* from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ (amd64 probably and "tarballs of common firmware packages") and put the firmware tarball on a USB stick. |
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| 13:53.11 | abrotman | jesser: why are you using etch ? |
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| 13:53.47 | babilen | kenj: The firmware thingie is explained on http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.amd64/ch06s04.html |
| 13:53.47 | jesser | abrotman: recovering an old Etch server (physical) by converting to a virtual machine |
| 13:53.53 | abrotman | oh dear |
| 13:53.59 | babilen | !tell kenj about install xfce4 |
| 13:54.04 | kenj | babilen: I downloaded the Xfce one of these, is that okay? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/wheezy_di_beta2/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 13:54.46 | kenj | And what firmware file do I need? |
| 13:54.53 | babilen | kenj: You can either use the XFCE CD1 or use the netinstall and select XFCE4 via "Advanced options > Alternative desktop environments > Xfce > Install" from the installer boot menu. That would install XFCE if you install the "Desktop" task. |
| 13:55.25 | jesser | hmm well http://archive.debian.org/debian is not working |
| 13:55.34 | jesser | (for etch netinstall cd) |
| 13:55.46 | abrotman | jesser: what's the error ? |
| 13:55.49 | kenj | I downloaded debian-wheezy-DI-b2-amd64-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso, but what firmware do I need to download? |
| 13:55.51 | babilen | kenj: Look at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ and download http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/testing/current/firmware.tar.gz |
| 13:56.13 | jesser | Bad archive mirror … The specified Debian archive mirror is either not available, or does not have a valid Release file on it. Please try a different mirror. |
| 13:56.20 | babilen | kenj: Put that on a USB stick and provide it during the installation as discussed in the installation guide |
| 13:56.37 | kenj | okay |
| 13:56.55 | kenj | babilen: Are any of these isos fine for me to use? |
| 13:56.56 | kenj | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 13:56.58 | ompaul | jesser: you can't do netinstalls of old machines because the repo it points to is not there |
| 13:57.15 | ompaul | jesser: it's been moved :) |
| 13:57.21 | jesser | ompaul: hmm i see. so how should I install a new etch? |
| 13:57.29 | ompaul | jesser: use a full cd |
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| 13:57.36 | babilen | kenj: I wouldn't use the weeklies as I have no idea if they work or not. Just use the beta2 and you should be fine ... |
| 13:58.16 | jesser | ompaul: so "etchnhalf" ? |
| 13:58.17 | ompaul | jesser: get yourself a few cds |
| 13:58.30 | jesser | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/4.0_r9/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 13:58.55 | abrotman | jesser: etchnhalf is a newer kernel among other things |
| 13:59.01 | kenj | babilen: I have no idea which iso.. |
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| 13:59.18 | jesser | ompaul: so where would I find a 'full cd' for etch? |
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| 13:59.56 | ompaul | jesser: not something I do - ... I would have expected the full archive to be there |
| 14:00.01 | ompaul | jesser: give me a few minutes |
| 14:00.15 | abrotman | jesser: http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r7/i386/iso-cd/ |
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| 14:00.28 | abrotman | jesser: not quite the newest versoin, or etchnhalf, but they do have full ISOs |
| 14:00.35 | kenj | babilen: This okay? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-6.0.5-amd64-xfce-desktop.iso |
| 14:00.38 | jesser | abrotman: thanks |
| 14:00.46 | abrotman | ugh .. etch |
| 14:00.58 | jesser | :-) |
| 14:01.13 | abrotman | welcome to 2005? |
| 14:01.24 | jesser | it's an interesting exercise :-) |
| 14:01.27 | abrotman | 2007 .. i'm getting old |
| 14:02.10 | babilen | kenj: yes |
| 14:02.11 | jesser | 21 cds?! |
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| 14:02.20 | abrotman | jesser: you only need CD1 |
| 14:02.31 | jesser | yay |
| 14:02.49 | kenj | babilen: Debian's server is slow, it's only downloading at 50MB/s |
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| 14:03.17 | babilen | kenj: I think 50MB/s is quite alright |
| 14:03.25 | abrotman | Mb or MB ? |
| 14:03.32 | babilen | either way, ok |
| 14:03.32 | abrotman | either way .. |
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| 14:03.54 | kenj | Mb/s |
| 14:03.56 | kenj | sorry |
| 14:04.13 | kenj | It took almost 15 seconds to download :( |
| 14:04.28 | abrotman | poor guy |
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| 14:04.36 | babilen | How is wheezy's installer dealing with wireless networks that have been configured during the installation? Are they configured in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 14:04.56 | babilen | (and therefore have to be removed after the installation if the user wants to use network-manager?) |
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| 14:05.21 | Aim_Here | Kids these days. Back in my day, 19200 was blazing fast |
| 14:05.37 | Aim_Here | 19200 baud that is |
| 14:05.46 | abrotman | lucky kid .. |
| 14:06.20 | kenj | baud? |
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| 14:07.12 | Aim_Here | Sort of like b/s but slightly different a |
| 14:08.04 | kenj | uh my internet is so slow |
| 14:08.06 | babilen | kenj: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baud -- A unit of measurement that isn't really important these days. Think of is as kb/s with 14400 = 14kb/s (yes, a lot of people use that) |
| 14:09.20 | kenj | A lot of people have 14Kb/s you mean? |
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| 14:10.07 | babilen | Well, back in the early nineties they/we did .. But this is getting rather off-topic and we should move it to #debian-offtopic |
| 14:10.33 | kenj | okay |
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| 14:24.39 | ompaul | jesser: (A) sorry (B) I can't install it either - same issue |
| 14:25.01 | ompaul | jesser: downloaded it and tried, and tried to install the archive repo |
| 14:25.35 | ompaul | jesser: at the choose your own repo - now I'm going to just install the base and add in an archive afterward - let's see what happens here |
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| 14:32.24 | ompaul | jesser: I made a sources.list of this deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ etch main non-free contrib I am given to understand there is a volatile etc |
| 14:32.56 | ompaul | jesser: so there you go, it works |
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| 14:54.42 | ompaul | jesser: http://superuser.com/questions/164400/is-there-still-a-repository-for-debian-etch-packages |
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| 14:58.44 | spal | Running grub-install "/dev/sda2" or grub-install "(hd0,2)" prints this error messsage: "warn: Attemptng to install GRUB to a partitionless disk or to a partition, This is a BAD idea. Embedding is not possible. GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists. However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged. error: will not proceed with blocklists." |
| 14:58.50 | spal | how can I fix grub now? |
| 14:59.00 | tidux | you never installed it |
| 14:59.07 | tidux | so it's not "fixable" |
| 14:59.13 | tidux | you install it to /dev/sda |
| 14:59.15 | tidux | not /dev/sda2 |
| 14:59.17 | tidux | durr |
| 14:59.54 | spal | grub-install "/dev/sda" generates this error: Sector 51 is alrady in use by FlexNet; avoiding it. |
| 14:59.55 | tidux | I swear this channel gets a question about that every six hours |
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| 14:59.58 | enoch | hi all |
| 15:00.10 | enoch | how to hostapd using two wireless? |
| 15:00.18 | enoch | i need to make a wireless bridge |
| 15:00.27 | spal | this issue began after deleting the NTFS partition on /dev/sda1 |
| 15:00.28 | enoch | so i need to make a br0 with wlan0 and wlan1 |
| 15:00.39 | spal | right now booted with Debian CD in rescue mode |
| 15:00.43 | tidux | spal: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 |
| 15:00.48 | tidux | that will zero out your mbr |
| 15:00.52 | tidux | which you can then write GRUB to |
| 15:00.58 | spal | tidux, thanks. let me try that. |
| 15:01.04 | enoch | one wlan is added by hostapd, but the other one? how can i add a wlan interface to a br interface? |
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| 15:04.44 | spal | tidux, now grub-install "/dev/sda" produces this error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sda2. Check your device.map. Try with --recheck. |
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| 15:05.18 | spal | trying the "--recheck" produces the same error |
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| 15:07.16 | spal | tidux, i should have tried bs=444 |
| 15:07.23 | spal | bs=512 has overwritten the partition table |
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| 15:08.30 | rozie | spal: are you sure you want to install grub on a partition? |
| 15:09.07 | tidux | I'm sure he doesn't |
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| 15:09.41 | rozie | spal: try /dev/sda for disk as a target |
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| 15:10.23 | spal | rozie, i mentioned above that grub-install "/dev/sda" produces this error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sda2. Check your device.map. Try with --recheck. |
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| 15:10.59 | spal | rozie, the partitions are lost after I tried: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 |
| 15:10.59 | enoch | ... |
| 15:11.10 | enoch | why cant add wlan0 to br0? |
| 15:11.36 | rozie | enoch: AFAIK not every wireless driver supports this function |
| 15:11.43 | Geroz | hi all. I have old pc with debian. Exist way haw set CPU speed to max all the time? thx |
| 15:11.56 | Geroz | how* |
| 15:12.18 | rozie | Geroz: there's no point in doing so. just use ondemand governor |
| 15:12.24 | enoch | rozie, so there's no way to solve it? change mode? change driver? |
| 15:12.48 | rozie | enoch: changing driver may help, if the other one supports bridge mode |
| 15:12.48 | tidux | change hardware |
| 15:13.35 | rozie | spal: do you have backup of you bootsector? |
| 15:13.43 | spal | rozie, no |
| 15:13.53 | rozie | or can you restore partitions manually in any other way? |
| 15:13.57 | enoch | mhh |
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| 15:14.15 | enoch | and a wiki to make a wireless connection using /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 15:15.02 | rozie | spal: IIRC testdisk had this function. but make backup (dd od whole disk) first if you have any not backuped data you don't want to lose |
| 15:15.16 | spal | rozie, ok. thanks. |
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| 15:18.01 | Geroz | rozie I want ondemand governor turn off. Because my pc have only 900HMz max and still run about 630MHz. When I start Flash in web browser still run 630 MHz and flash run bad. (I thing that Flash need more CPU) |
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| 15:19.09 | rozie | Geroz: take a look on cpufrequtils, but don't expect flash work acceptable even on 1GHz |
| 15:19.35 | rozie | I had Pentium III 1GHz and flash was huge PITA |
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| 15:19.45 | rozie | if you want youtube only, try minitube |
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| 15:20.37 | rozie | Geroz: and you can just use performance governor |
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| 15:23.03 | Geroz | ok I try install cpufrequtils. This pc is old asus eee and is only to internet (for fun). I have debian with awesome in them. |
| 15:23.08 | montreux | Hi, does anyone know "good" solution to perform automatic isp failover when I have two internet providers? I can't anything in the web. |
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| 15:23.40 | rozie | montreux: have you heard of BGP? |
| 15:24.23 | montreux | rozie: I forget to mention, that's small home router :) |
| 15:24.25 | rozie | Geroz: try performance governor first. and forget about flash ;-) |
| 15:24.50 | rozie | montreux: irrevelant. but I understand you ISPs don't allow BGP ;-) |
| 15:25.29 | montreux | rozie: excatly :) |
| 15:25.36 | rozie | montreux: you can make script which checks if ISP's gateway is up |
| 15:25.57 | rozie | if one is up and other is not, change default route to the one that's up |
| 15:26.28 | rozie | if that's router, you probably want to change also NAT address and so on |
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| 15:28.26 | Geroz | cpufreq-info return ... unknown CPU driver ...hm |
| 15:28.36 | rozie | montreux: also: http://chris.olstrom.com/howto/setup-dual-wan/ and "two isp linux howto" on Google in general |
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| 15:34.55 | blackorange | I have a weird problem with debian when i try to do aptitude it says could not resolve 'security.debian.org' I haven't experienced this before. do any one have some knowledge in this? |
| 15:36.03 | MaddinXx | hello everyone |
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| 15:37.08 | MaddinXx | may I ask if it's allowed to ask questions about specific packages here rather than general debian ones? |
| 15:37.54 | sney | yeah, but we may direct you somewhere else for better answers |
| 15:37.56 | Aim_Here | As long as it's Debian packagss |
| 15:38.35 | magicalChicken | blackorange: can aptitiude resolve any of the other debian mirrors? |
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| 15:39.28 | blackorange | nope :/ |
| 15:39.56 | blackorange | magicalChicken: nope :) |
| 15:40.06 | MaddinXx | ok great, thanks! so my question is about "alien", converting a .rpm package to a .deb package. Let's assume the package doesn't have any dependencies (stand-alone package). Can anybody tell me how compatible this package is? E.g. if I convert it on a Squeeze 64-bit machine, will I be able to install the outputed .deb file on a Lenny 64-bit system without problems or does it convert them based on the machine it's converted on? |
| 15:40.07 | Aim_Here | blackorange did you upgrade to unstable? That isn't supported by security.debian.org |
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| 15:40.44 | blackorange | Aim_Here: no it's the stable one |
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| 15:41.47 | [x] | direct link to download debian 64 bit iso file ? |
| 15:42.09 | magicalChicken | blackorange: if you try to download a file from one of these mirrors manually, does it work? |
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| 15:43.08 | blackorange | I though there might be some trouble with the DNS config somehow. I can not ping any dns at all. I could be wrong to I am pretty new to Debian |
| 15:43.13 | Aim_Here | [x] Can't find you go to debian.org for it? |
| 15:43.40 | gits1225 | Hey guys a quick question: I am running 6.0.6 atm. When 7 comes out, will I be able to upgrade to it with no problems or will I have to install it from scratch? |
| 15:44.26 | sney | gits1225: you will be able to upgrade. problems will depend on how much 3rd party stuff you've added. |
| 15:44.42 | gits1225 | hmm, k. Thanks. |
| 15:44.53 | magicalChicken | blackorange: what dns server do you use |
| 15:45.06 | [x] | Aim_Here: the site is not simple so many confusing infos |
| 15:45.29 | MaddinXx | sney: by 3rd party you mean unofficial repositories or packages other than base ones? |
| 15:45.31 | [x] | small size big :S i messed up with what to choose |
| 15:45.32 | blackorange | I think it is 8.8.8.8 |
| 15:45.50 | blackorange | tMagicalChicken: the standard one at least. This is a fresh install |
| 15:45.57 | MaddinXx | e.g. not installed by default |
| 15:46.00 | sney | MaddinXx: unofficial and semi-official repositories. |
| 15:46.28 | nmschulte | Hi all. I'm trying to enable SMART on one of my drives, but '# smartctl /dev/sdb -s on' gives: 'Error SMART Enable failed: scsi error aborted command -- Smartctl: SMART Enable Failed.' |
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| 15:46.45 | nmschulte | SMART is enabled in BIOS, and it works just fine for my identical drive, /dev/sda. |
| 15:46.46 | sney | nmschulte: is smart enabled on that disk in the bios? |
| 15:46.48 | sney | ah |
| 15:46.49 | MaddinXx | sney: thanks for clarification! |
| 15:46.50 | magicalChicken | blackorange: that is run by google, so i doubt there is anything wrong with it, can you ping 8.8.8.8 |
| 15:46.59 | nmschulte | sney: I think the drive is failing. |
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| 15:47.18 | sney | nmschulte: sounds likely. most drive manufacturers have standalone bootable diagnostic tools |
| 15:47.35 | nmschulte | sney: I have issues with the NVIDIA option ROM sometimes when init'ing the array, and as well when GRUB tries to boot; the device is not ready and the rootfs is never found. |
| 15:47.39 | blackorange | yes |
| 15:47.48 | nmschulte | sney: Oh, yeah! Thanks for reminding me; I have a SAM disk here, :P) |
| 15:48.03 | nmschulte | This is like my third failed drive in this tower... |
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| 15:48.20 | nmschulte | I don't know if it's because of heat, or because the disks are mounted sideways, or what... |
| 15:48.33 | blackorange | MagicalChicken: yes i can, oh wait a moment i didn't have that, let me chech something |
| 15:48.44 | break19 | nmschulte: heat is usually the #1 drive killer |
| 15:48.51 | nmschulte | The tower is an Antec P180B |
| 15:48.56 | break19 | how they are mounted usually has little bearing |
| 15:49.18 | nmschulte | break19: Yeah. It's strange, one drive seems to be rock solid, and the other is a continual refurb loop. |
| 15:49.20 | sney | nmschulte: probably just an accident of statistics |
| 15:49.38 | nmschulte | I have a dedicated fan down there too, and the PSU is mounted right behind them, so there should be plenty of airflow. |
| 15:50.01 | break19 | nmschulte: remember that the "goodies" are at the bottom of the drive.. so if you have another drive close to the bottom of that drive, that can be why it's dying faster |
| 15:50.05 | blackorange | magicalChicken: I doubble check i do have the nameservers 83.255.245.11 and 193.150.193.150. I can ping both though |
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| 15:50.08 | sney | and most disks can run pretty well even without much in the way of cooling. |
| 15:50.29 | break19 | sney: depends on the drive. some drives can handle heat better than others. |
| 15:50.40 | sney | see: most |
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| 15:50.49 | nmschulte | I have about an inch's worth of space between the drives, but yeah, it's possible the PCB/chips are giving off that much heat; I'll have to see which drive is failing, "top" or "bottom" |
| 15:51.22 | nmschulte | These are SAMSUNG SpinPoint F1's (HD502IJ) -- I've had no issues with my other SAMSUNG SpinPoints. Meh! |
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| 15:52.06 | nmschulte | 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 078 062 000 Old_age Always - 22 (Min/Max 12/22) |
| 15:52.09 | nmschulte | 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 074 061 000 Old_age Always - 26 (Min/Max 12/26) |
| 15:52.19 | nmschulte | That's for the drive that SMART is working on. |
| 15:52.21 | magicalChicken | blackorange: ok, so dns should be working, does something like "dig www.google.com" work |
| 15:52.26 | nmschulte | seems like an OK temperature to me. |
| 15:52.46 | break19 | yea. thats fine. |
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| 15:52.57 | break19 | 22C 26C is a good temp |
| 15:53.07 | nmschulte | I'm going to test the drives. afk! |
| 15:53.29 | break19 | nmschulte: a thought.. it could be the sata port |
| 15:54.09 | break19 | or cable |
| 15:54.10 | blackorange | magicalChicken: Yes it seems to work |
| 15:54.44 | magicalChicken | blackorange: your system should be working then, if you "ping www.google.com" does it go through? |
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| 15:55.34 | magicalChicken | blackorange: I gotta go, sorry, |
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| 15:56.22 | blackorange | magicalChicken: thank you for the help and no ping www.google.com doesn't work |
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| 16:01.12 | gits1225 | sney, why don't debian follow a release when stable model? Like if a particular kernel version or firefox or any other piece of software is announced stable by the maintainers, why not upgrade debian with those new releases after testing? |
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| 16:04.54 | Aim_Here | Debian does a lot of modifications to it's packages. It decides when it's version is stable |
| 16:05.11 | Aim_Here | That might differ from upstream |
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| 16:06.10 | gits1225 | But if for example after extensive testing, say firefox is deemed stable. But that stable version will only be added to debian in the next major release of debian right? Aim_Here |
| 16:06.50 | Aim_Here | Right |
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| 16:07.25 | mooglenorph | Hi, I'm on squeeze and trying to record my desktop for screencasting. |
| 16:07.30 | mooglenorph | I get the message Unknown encoder 'libx264' |
| 16:07.31 | Aim_Here | Because two well-tested packages might conflkct |
| 16:07.51 | mooglenorph | When I try to specify vcodec libx264 to ffmpeg with x11grab |
| 16:08.50 | asturel | isnt it just x264? |
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| 16:09.07 | asturel | no D: sorry |
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| 16:10.07 | Aim_Here | Does debian have x264 decoders? I'd have thought they'd not be free enough |
| 16:10.43 | gits1225 | Aim_Here, makes sense. |
| 16:11.13 | mooglenorph | Ah, probably it is a freedom thing then. Well. How do I figure out what codecs are installed? |
| 16:11.56 | mooglenorph | This works ok: ffmpeg -f x11grab -r 30 -s 1280x800 -i :0.0 -sameq -f alsa -i pulse meow.avi, but the movements of my pen on screen in the recording are a little laggy. |
| 16:12.06 | themill | ,v x264 |
| 16:12.07 | judd | Package: x264 on i386 -- lenny-multimedia: 1:0.svn20090115-0.0; squeeze-backports: 2:0.120.2151+gita3f4407-3~bpo60+1; sid: 2:0.123.2189+git35cf912-1; wheezy: 2:0.123.2189+git35cf912-1; experimental: 2:0.125.2209+git68dfb7b-1; squeeze-multimedia: 3:0.118.2085+git8a62835-0.1+1; sid-multimedia: 3:0.128.2216+git198a7ea-dmo1; wheezy-multimedia: 3:0.128.2216+git198a7ea-dmo1 |
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| 16:12.20 | themill | ^^ you'll see that it is in debian. |
| 16:12.48 | mooglenorph | That's weird I do have that installed... From squeeze-backports. I guess I also need to get ffmpeg from backports then, to actually use it? |
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| 16:14.05 | SiDz | libx264-123 - x264 video coding library |
| 16:14.07 | mooglenorph | I'll just try that now. |
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| 16:14.50 | frikinz | ffmpeg finally did their v1.0.0! |
| 16:15.14 | mooglenorph | Apparently avconv is replacing ffmpeg? |
| 16:15.24 | themill | already has |
| 16:15.26 | mooglenorph | (according to this release note aptitude just showed me) |
| 16:15.42 | mooglenorph | Ugh. Can I screencast (ie use x11grab) with avconv? |
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| 16:16.32 | frikinz | http://blog.pkh.me/p/13-the-ffmpeg-libav-situation.html |
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| 16:21.38 | killer_ | when wheezy gets release.....n i wanna stay with squeeze ..then will these repo keep me in squeeze:"http://pastebin.com/4vAdjHXq" |
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| 16:23.53 | SiDz | nope, you'll have to change stable to squeeze i think |
| 16:24.04 | babilen | killer_: No, those are exactly the sources.list that do *not* track squeeze. You have to replace stable with squeeze in there for that to happen. Please note that we will only support squeeze for about a year after wheezy's release. |
| 16:24.57 | mooglenorph | frikinz: Thank you |
| 16:25.13 | mooglenorph | Sweet. Got x264 working, screencast is real smooth now :-) |
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| 16:35.32 | cuit | Hi, what is the squeeze-updates bit of apt/sources.list and why doesn't it work with wheezey? Is it the security updates one (of which there are no security-team updates to testing?)? |
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| 16:39.14 | themill | !squeeze-updates |
| 16:39.15 | dpkg | squeeze-updates is a suite providing updates to some stable packages (from <proposed-updates>) prior to a <point release>. All packages from squeeze-updates will be included in point releases. This suite replaces the Debian Volatile archive starting from Debian 6.0. http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110215 http://wiki.debian.org/StableUpdates . Not to be confused with <squeeze/updates>, ask me about <security>. |
| 16:39.40 | cuit | !security |
| 16:39.40 | dpkg | Put "deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in stable. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade" (or "aptitude full-upgrade" if the updates are kept back). Also ask me about <dsa>, <security backports>, <oldstable security>, <testing security>, <unstable security>. |
| 16:40.25 | themill | cuit: so it doesn't make sense for a wheey-updates repo to exist yet |
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| 16:40.56 | cuit | themill: because packages are just going into it anyway, so does squeeze-updates contain normal packages just added after a release |
| 16:41.09 | themill | yeah. virus scanner definitions etc |
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| 16:41.32 | themill | and at the same time, wheezy/updates on security.d.o does exist but isn't yet being used much/at al |
| 16:42.03 | cuit | themill: ah, that's why I was getting could not resolve ip errors |
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| 16:42.35 | themill | no, you'd get 404 from wheezy-updates and just no updates from wheezy/updates |
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| 16:43.48 | cuit | ok thanks, a couple months of serverlessness and a little freebsd and debian has just completely leaked out my eyes |
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| 16:43.54 | cuit | ears* (eye?! graphic.) |
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| 16:45.01 | cuit | ok dpkg is being cryptic. Can I go from wheezy to squeeze? |
| 16:45.32 | petemc | you cant generally downgrade |
| 16:46.15 | cuit | dayum, I think that should come up when you first try apt-get upgrade with wheezy/testing in sources.list :P not bad for me right now at least |
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| 16:48.13 | themill | cuit: why do you now want to downgrade? |
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| 16:48.37 | cuit | themill: I was just curious, I'd assume it'd just replace packages at a lower version but apparently not I guess |
| 16:49.22 | themill | dpkg: tell cuit about dowgrade |
| 16:49.25 | themill | dpkg: tell cuit about downgrade |
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| 16:49.46 | cuit | ok :) |
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| 16:50.25 | themill | cuit: unpacking the tarball is the trivial part of the downgrade and you can force apt to do that. Handling all the other changes that the maintainer scripts guide you through isn't going to happen |
| 16:50.46 | cuit | does linux need somethings to make it take advantage of my hardware's power saving features(if they exist), (Core 2 Quad, Nvidia Geforce 9800GTX, Seagate Barracuda, ASUS mobo); also is there a webpage or such that can help me get temps, loads and such in a useful way |
| 16:51.25 | cuit | themill: yea, I guess I just assume on a fresher system there should be fewer problems, but I don't know loooads in how packages work but I'd assume the worse most would get is weird new params in config files |
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| 16:51.53 | smhar | greetings |
| 16:51.55 | smhar | I have a new laptop with debian testing (wheezy) amd64, I downloaded latest thunderbird from mozilla.org but I am getting this error when trying to run: XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /opt/thunderbird/libxpcom.so: libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Couldn't load XPCOM. |
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| 16:52.46 | nkuttler | !tell smhar about search |
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| 16:55.37 | cuit | smhar: just install from apt? |
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| 16:57.26 | smhar | nkuttler, I googled this issue for 2 days and still searching. the file is there. chmod -R +x /opt/thunderbird/ . |
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| 16:58.00 | smhar | nkuttler, I also have firefox from mozilla.org in /opt/firefox and it runs without a problem |
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| 16:58.35 | smhar | cuit, there is no thunderbird in apt. only icedove |
| 16:58.53 | boudiccas | smhar, i used thunderbird for all my email and feed reads for about a fortnight, and then got fed up with it constantly throwing off errors even when running offline, so i switched to 'claws mail' and it just works out of the box |
| 16:59.10 | nkuttler | smhar: which file is where? |
| 16:59.20 | nkuttler | and icedove is thunderbird |
| 16:59.51 | nkuttler | !tell smhar about why icedove |
| 17:00.01 | Armand | Hi |
| 17:00.39 | Armand | Ahh, I'm no longer muted.. Good. :) |
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| 17:01.57 | cuit | smhar: good enough? |
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| 17:02.24 | cuit | smhar: icedove is just missing the thunderbird logo and trademarks lol, unless you neeeed that bird on your screen |
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| 17:04.43 | smhar | cuit, I have already installed icedove 2 days ago and been using it since then, but I can not seem to install many addons such as Enigmail |
| 17:05.28 | nkuttler | smhar: which error do you get? |
| 17:05.37 | smhar | boudiccas, I have been using thunderbird for years. I never had problems with it before |
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| 17:06.38 | smhar | nkuttler, Enigmail could not be installed because it is not compatible with Icedove 10.0.7. |
| 17:07.01 | boudiccas | smhar, mine would just be offline and sitting doing nothing and it would throw out an error about the calendar and a script not completing, and these erros were all the time, so i eventually got fed up with it and changed |
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| 17:09.09 | smhar | nkuttler, image_zoom is also not compatible and many other addons from thunderbird list |
| 17:09.10 | nmschulte | Okay, so, the disk utility says that the drive has a problem; it says SMART is off, when I try to enable SMART it says its on, and when I try to disable it it says it failed. |
| 17:09.45 | nmschulte | Somehow in the process of testing the drives, the working drive had it's fake-raid info corrupted... |
| 17:09.58 | nmschulte | Now, the NVIDIA option ROM won't recognize that it is part of a RAID 0. |
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| 17:10.10 | nkuttler | smhar: well you'll probably need older versions of the addons then |
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| 17:10.29 | nmschulte | The other drive, the one with SMART issues, still has it's meta data; is there anyway I can fix the RAID info? |
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| 17:11.30 | nmschulte | sney: who was I talking to before I left? |
| 17:11.31 | smhar | nkuttler, those are freshly downloaded from thunderbird list. and I am talking about several addons, not once and two, and they are major 'featured' once |
| 17:11.37 | smhar | cuit, nkuttler, so, what I see now is that Icedove <> thunderbird - logo |
| 17:13.10 | simonlnu | !icedove |
| 17:13.10 | dpkg | Icedove is a DFSG-free fork of Mozilla Thunderbird, a cross-platform email client, replacing Thunderbird in Debian as of Lenny. Debian is unable to distribute Mozilla Thunderbird as-is due to trademark restrictions, see <why icedove>. For help with upstream issues, ask #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org. http://wiki.debian.org/Icedove |
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| 17:13.22 | smhar | nkuttler, for instance: Enigmail is at version 1.4.4 and Works with Thunderbird 14.0 - 15.* |
| 17:13.38 | nkuttler | smhar: anyway, find the thunderbird support |
| 17:14.13 | themill | enigmail in debian presumably works with icedove in debian... |
| 17:14.22 | nkuttler | oh, it's even packaged.. |
| 17:14.42 | themill | smhar: mozilla builds are typically 32bit only so on an amd64 system you get to play hunt the library |
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| 17:16.17 | smhar | themill, I found the 64bit firefox and I installed it, but could not find a 64bit thunderbird |
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| 17:17.52 | smhar | themill, my problem is not enigmail , but it is one example of addons which I could not install on icedove, others include image_zoom. comtacts_sidebar and others |
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| 17:18.25 | smhar | themill, this is the reason I am trying to install thunderbird and not Icedove. But thunderbird is throwing an error: |
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| 17:18.44 | smhar | themill, : XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /opt/thunderbird/libxpcom.so: libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Couldn't load XPCOM. |
| 17:18.55 | themill | smhar: mozilla builds are typically 32bit only so on an amd64 system you get to play hunt the library |
| 17:19.01 | nkuttler | smhar: try something like http://carlo17.home.xs4all.nl/howto/iceweasel32.html |
| 17:19.06 | boudiccas | smhar, if icedove is in the wheezy repos and enigmail too, maybe other addons are too? search for icedove in synaptic and it will show you all available addons |
| 17:19.14 | MaddinXx | does anyone know here, if there's something equal (e.g. a kernel, packages) to Cloud Linux functionality (isolation) for debian? |
| 17:19.14 | nkuttler | hrm, that's old though.. |
| 17:19.29 | themill | ,v mozilla-imagezoom |
| 17:19.30 | judd | Package: mozilla-imagezoom on i386 -- lenny: 0.3.1-1; sid: 0.4.4-1; squeeze: 0.4.4-1 |
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| 17:22.05 | smhar | boudiccas, I checked apt-cache search icedove and found only few addons |
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| 17:22.39 | boudiccas | smhar, fair enough, just a thought |
| 17:22.42 | themill | most addons are called "mozilla" or "xul" not "icedove" |
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| 17:24.35 | Armand | Random question: Is boswar any good? |
| 17:24.59 | smhar | themill, I know that I have a library problem this is why I am asking here. the library that it is complaining about is part of thunderbird directory |
| 17:25.59 | themill | smhar: I don't know how many ways we can tell you this -- you need to work out what 32bit libraries you have to install for this yourself; mozilla people are going to know this not us |
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| 17:32.44 | BlackMumba | is it possible to receive one root scan? |
| 17:33.01 | bolt | a what? |
| 17:33.12 | bolt | looks for exposed roots in BlackMumba's garden |
| 17:33.33 | Mp5shooter | BlackMumba, ask your local tree surgeon |
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| 17:34.44 | format_c | What was that? |
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| 17:36.18 | simonlnu | . o O (one very confused person) |
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| 17:38.43 | smhar | themill, boudiccas, nkuttler, for reference, the libraries required are: ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk libdbus-glib-1-2, took me a lot of googling and apt-cache search guessing |
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| 17:40.58 | boudiccas | smhar, if you blog it and have it on the internet then you'll be able to refer to it in the future, and also help other s too with the same problem. |
| 17:41.26 | smhar | boudiccas, will do. thanks all. |
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| 17:56.36 | boudiccas | does apt-cache update at the same time as apt-get? |
| 17:56.56 | simonlnu | yes. uses the same db |
| 17:57.06 | boudiccas | ah, right, thanks |
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| 18:12.16 | helena_ | xset dpms 0 0 0 and xset -dpms don't work. My screen still turns off after applying them. |
| 18:12.26 | helena_ | this is a monitoring environment |
| 18:12.58 | helena_ | any way to stop it with xscreensaver? |
| 18:13.05 | abrotman | helena_: with which DE ? |
| 18:13.26 | helena_ | abrotman: I don't have one. |
| 18:13.29 | helena_ | just dwm |
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| 18:25.33 | oskie | I'm considering setting up software (md) RAID1 using 2x4TB or RAID5 using 3x3TB on modern SATA drives. I wonder what will provide the better performance. |
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| 18:31.01 | rotaticus | libdatetime-perl |
| 18:31.21 | rotaticus | wrong terminal |
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| 18:33.00 | DelphiWorld | hey debianists |
| 18:33.22 | DelphiWorld | if i plug a usb dvd drive, how do i know the equival device name in /dev ? |
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| 18:33.54 | different | Is Debian better than Ubuntu? |
| 18:34.08 | sevenfourk | :-D |
| 18:34.24 | abrotman | different: try them both, decide for yourself |
| 18:34.43 | different | I hate Ubuntu and want to try something better. |
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| 18:34.52 | different | I've been using Ubuntu since version 4. |
| 18:34.54 | oskie | what do you hate about ubuntu, different? |
| 18:34.57 | different | Unity. |
| 18:35.02 | different | Bloated. |
| 18:35.08 | different | Ubuntu Software Centre, etc. |
| 18:35.24 | oskie | ok..debian uses another window manager by default |
| 18:35.34 | different | Gnome 2? |
| 18:35.43 | oskie | ...but it may be as bloated |
| 18:35.55 | oskie | sorry, I only use debian from the command line :) |
| 18:35.56 | different | Gnome 2 is dead though... |
| 18:36.09 | different | oskie: Are you using Irssi? |
| 18:36.14 | oskie | different: yes |
| 18:36.23 | different | Do you use lynx as a web browser? |
| 18:36.27 | different | oskie |
| 18:36.43 | abrotman | different: try them both, decide for yourself |
| 18:36.51 | oskie | different: no, I use firefox. from my Windows laptop |
| 18:37.02 | different | Ah okay. |
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| 18:37.46 | oskie | different: btw, debian calls firefox "iceweasel" |
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| 18:38.40 | different | I'll try Debian... |
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| 18:43.02 | jampola | DelphiWorld: Drunk response, plug in your usb dvd drive and it run dmesg and it will tell you the device name |
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| 18:43.45 | spligak_ | Been fighting some graphics issues ( as seen here: http://imgur.com/a/ZWHQ7 ) - wondering if any of you know of a good guide for installing the proprietary intel graphics drivers? |
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| 18:44.31 | abrotman | there are none ? |
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| 18:45.17 | jampola | spligak_ only happening when you have WOW open? is it running in a VM or in wine? |
| 18:46.25 | spligak_ | jampola, only in wow under crossover. video otherwise works very well on my machine. |
| 18:46.55 | spligak_ | the second screencap is me messing with direct3d registry values. didn't help much. |
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| 18:48.12 | spligak_ | jampola, what's really strange is it actually works really well. everything is clickable, the sound runs fine. just looks crazy. |
| 18:51.52 | cuit | how do I change my shell to zsh? |
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| 18:52.06 | spligak_ | cuit, you can use chsh |
| 18:52.20 | cuit | what path? |
| 18:52.34 | spligak_ | /usr/local/bin/zsh I think? I can check |
| 18:52.39 | oskie | wonders how you pronounce chsh |
| 18:52.59 | spligak_ | /usr/bin/zsh actually |
| 18:53.02 | cuit | spligak_: it's that on freebsd I know but I wasn't sure about debian |
| 18:53.12 | spligak_ | yup, just checked. it's in /usr/bin |
| 18:53.20 | oskie | IMHO /usr/local should be moved to /local |
| 18:53.30 | spligak_ | you can always use "which zsh" to find the path of an executable |
| 18:53.38 | cuit | spligak_: thanks, just realised just running chsh prompts you |
| 18:53.40 | cuit | cd /usr/bin |
| 18:53.42 | cuit | ls |
| 18:53.46 | cuit | lol woops, wrong place |
| 18:54.18 | spligak_ | what's also neat is "which" takes an -a flag. so if you have multiple symlinks or executables of the same name elsewhere, it will list them all |
| 18:54.35 | jampola | Really not sure with crossover/wine, I've only known people who have used it in virtual box (since it works a treat!) but all I can suggest it try different xorg-intel drivers or different kernels. Sorry, don't know too much about crossover and my wife is bugging me for bed so I gots to go! soiya! |
| 18:54.52 | different | jampola: You highlighted me. |
| 18:54.52 | cuit | seems to be in both /bin and /usr/bin, are they symlinked? |
| 18:55.23 | cardamon | different: You have a horrible name. |
| 18:55.35 | cardamon | Try something a little more unique. |
| 18:55.41 | different | How? |
| 18:55.47 | different | I can't think of a good nick. |
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| 18:56.23 | spligak_ | cuit, they seem to be somehow, by way of /etc/alternatives/ -- either should work fine, though. I'd probably go with /usr/bin/zsh however. |
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| 18:58.19 | cuit | spligak_: I went with /bin because chsh recommended, worse case it defaults to sh :P |
| 18:58.44 | spligak_ | cuit, word. either should work fine |
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| 19:28.58 | LittleFoot | helo |
| 19:29.09 | LittleFoot | i fixed my 1440p rez in linux |
| 19:29.19 | LittleFoot | its edid problem |
| 19:29.29 | LittleFoot | any1 know how to add projector to it |
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| 19:30.26 | ag4ve | anyone use newsgroups? looking for a reader and i guess i'm sorta going back and forth between trn and tin... thoughts? anything else i should look at? |
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| 19:35.33 | bolt | ag4ve: i just use thunderbiird... |
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| 19:39.59 | ag4ve | hehe, i just found this. it made me smile: "I remember that trn used to be lightning-quick on my 486." |
| 19:43.13 | ag4ve | meh, i guess i'll use tin because of the community and they seem to have 2 or 3 releases per year. |
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| 19:43.54 | ag4ve | bolt: can't see running thunderbird just for news. too big a footprint but thanks for the input |
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| 19:45.54 | cuit | How can I see my system temp readings in debian / get them ? |
| 19:46.27 | cuit | It's sitting idle but seems warmer than I'd expect, need to see what it actually is |
| 19:46.42 | ner0x | Anyone using Gnome3 have any issues? Do you like it? |
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| 19:47.54 | AimHere | I briefly faffed around with what I thought was Gnome 3 earlier today, while reinstalling Sid. It looked slightly snazzy but I felt scared and out of my comfort zone and I'm now back in the safe comforting snug confines of openbox |
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| 19:48.37 | ner0x | I'm reading debian is going to xfce? |
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| 19:48.43 | cuit | ner0x: yes |
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| 19:48.51 | abrotman | no |
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| 19:49.00 | cuit | abrotman: no? |
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| 19:49.19 | abrotman | ner0x: all that's changing is the desktop/wm that is installed when you use the "Desktop" task in tasksel |
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| 19:49.29 | AimHere | I heard a rumour that the plan was to devolve debian back to it's roots and aim to convert people back to twm |
| 19:49.41 | ner0x | abrotman: Fair enough. |
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| 19:50.19 | cuit | ag4ve: ah yea thanks |
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| 19:51.18 | ner0x | So I assume Gnome3 is in backports? Any install docs? |
| 19:51.24 | abrotman | no |
| 19:51.29 | ag4ve | heh, anything is better than kde or gnome at this point |
| 19:51.31 | abrotman | as in, no it's not in backports |
| 19:51.47 | ner0x | I happen to like gnome. |
| 19:51.57 | ag4ve | xfce might not be an all around choice if you're trying to get a happy medium |
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| 19:52.37 | ag4ve | meh, i use xmonad, so i won't be doing the 'Desktop' task any time soon :) |
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| 19:53.53 | ner0x | And was lazy enough to never fix it. :-) |
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| 19:56.32 | ag4ve | sometimes i wonder what type of shit package maintainers smoke |
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| 19:56.45 | ag4ve | ... time to compile (again) |
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| 20:00.33 | different | Hello, network manager isn't detecting any of my network interfaces. it doesn't start on startup, and oddly enough, i can still use the internet |
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| 20:01.35 | magicalChicken | different: are you on a wired connection? |
| 20:01.40 | different | yes |
| 20:01.42 | Lasse- | Then you most likely have something else managing networks I think |
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| 20:04.45 | different | problem is, the system isn't loading its own network configuration on startup. network manager doesn't seem to want to start either |
| 20:04.51 | ag4ve | different: if dhclient is still running for wired, it will (has for me) trump nm (or work anyway with default settings) |
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| 20:05.47 | rainfyre | is there an irc room for Sid? |
| 20:05.59 | different | How would I check that, ag4ve? |
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| 20:06.37 | babilen | different: Sorry, just joined but it looks as if you have your networking configured in /etc/network/interfaces but want to use network-manager. NM will *not* manage interfaces in /e/n/i unless explicitly told to do so. Read /usr/share/doc/network-manager/README.Debian for details. |
| 20:06.50 | babilen | rainfyre: #debian-next on irc.oftc.net (aka irc.debian.org) as mentioned in the /topic |
| 20:06.52 | ag4ve | different: ps ax | grep dhclient |
| 20:07.02 | ag4ve | rainfyre: here |
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| 20:07.09 | rainfyre | babilen: thank you |
| 20:07.12 | babilen | ag4ve: Not quite ;) |
| 20:07.24 | rainfyre | babilen: I thought that was for testing only :) |
| 20:07.32 | rainfyre | having trouble connecting to oftc |
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| 20:08.10 | babilen | rainfyre: It is testing/unstable - What is your problem? Either way: You can ask here, but #d-next is the channel specifically for testing/unstable |
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| 20:08.46 | maxxe | is direct rendering possible with the radeon driver (not fglrx)? |
| 20:08.48 | rainfyre | babilen: I don't have a problem, just wondering what a sources.list looks like for sid |
| 20:08.51 | babilen | different: In short: Could you paste your /etc/network/interfaces file to http://paste.debian.net ? |
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| 20:08.58 | ag4ve | babilen: ah, that's why an wired interface will work with nm there... makes sense since i always configure interfaces when i get on a system out of habbit |
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| 20:09.45 | different | okay |
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| 20:10.08 | ag4ve | rainfyre: you should be able to find a source-o-matic page for debian |
| 20:10.10 | babilen | rainfyre: Quite boring if truth be told: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free" (or s/unstable/sid) is all you need anywhere on earth. Check http://http.debian.net for details about this new mirror service. |
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| 20:10.47 | stephanb | i would like to triage some bugs, is there a special irc channel for discussion on that topic? |
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| 20:11.51 | ag4ve | stephanb: i think you're going to mailing lists for that |
| 20:11.51 | babilen | stephanb: There is #debian-bugs on irc.oftc.net, but here is probably fine. Depends on the bug really as you might want to speak to people who know about whatever you are trying to debug. |
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| 20:12.16 | different | http://pastebin.com/SApMK2wV |
| 20:12.22 | babilen | stephanb: And yeah, it might make sense to write to a suitable mailing list. But I can't give a better suggestion without knowing what you are working on. |
| 20:12.26 | rainfyre | babilen: :) thank you as always |
| 20:12.28 | babilen | !pastebin.com |
| 20:12.28 | dpkg | pastebin.com takes forever to load, makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads. Please use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 20:12.29 | stephanb | babilen: ok thanks |
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| 20:12.46 | stephanb | babilen: nothing in particular |
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| 20:12.58 | ag4ve | meh, i like pastebin.ca - it's awesome |
| 20:12.59 | different | sorry, please can you still use http://pastebin.com/SApMK2wV though? |
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| 20:13.18 | babilen | different: Yeah, both wlan0 and eth0 are configured in /etc/network/interfaces and will therefore *not* be managed by network-manager. Would you like to change that? |
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| 20:15.25 | different | babilen: yes please |
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| 20:15.44 | babilen | different: Hmm, have to go. Either way: If you want network-manager to manage both ethernet and your wireless connection remove the entries in your /etc/network/interfaces and restart network manager with "service network-manager restart" -- Your /e/n/i would look like: http://paste.debian.net/197073/ in that case |
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| 20:17.31 | cuit | can I use hddtemp from console? |
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| 20:17.47 | babilen | different: This is also discussed in more detail in /usr/share/doc/network-manager/README.Debian and on http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager - I recommend to *not* set "managed=true" but to merely remove the entries and to tick the "Make connection available to all users" checkbox which will ensure that they are initialised at boot, can be used by all users and won't be taken down if you log out of Xorg |
| 20:17.54 | babilen | brb |
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| 20:21.36 | different | Is there a check book balancer for Debian? similar to Microsoft Money? |
| 20:21.40 | different | babilen: thanks |
| 20:21.52 | UukGoblin | different, try gnucash |
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| 20:22.47 | veryhappy | hi guys, do i really need exim4 or can't i remove it from the system? |
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| 20:24.25 | abrotman | veryhappy: it's not really doing anything |
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| 20:25.32 | veryhappy | abrotman: what is it doing actually |
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| 20:25.53 | abrotman | veryhappy: some system software will send you email about things ont he system |
| 20:26.51 | veryhappy | abrotman: ok, i just thought about removing it, because i sometimes think that it still takes at least 1-2 seconds until MTA: comes and tells exim4 |
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| 20:33.50 | veryhappy | thank you |
| 20:33.51 | veryhappy | bye |
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| 20:36.34 | D-Boy | I have a vbox VM (debian 6) on a debian host (debian 5) which host some services (www/mysql/ircd...) how to move thoses services to an openvz container, is there a way to do a 'savestate' for a server and replicate/paste datas/conf/ to another one ? |
| 20:36.45 | Bogus | So I had a raid 5 go down. It seemed to just kick drives out (2) for no real reason... they tested fine. So I tried to do a create with --assume-clean and recreate it leaving the first drive to drop out "missing" but I'm getting an error: |
| 20:36.58 | Bogus | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:37.11 | Bogus | of course it shows as a raid device via fdisk |
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| 20:41.33 | rainfyre | babilen: is the new debian mirror service the only line I need in my sources.list for a debian stable installation also? |
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| 20:42.52 | proby | hi , i wonder how to open an .lzm file ?? |
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| 20:48.08 | ompaul | proby: on slax - what are you trying to do - we may already have it done |
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| 20:48.33 | ompaul | the debian way |
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| 20:49.45 | ompaul | pictures babilen on a hill top with a warm monk / wizard like wrap on, with a light on the end of a staff and a moon behind him as he points the path on the debian way |
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| 20:50.45 | cuit | is emacs23-nox emacs for console? |
| 20:50.57 | ompaul | cuit: correct - no X |
| 20:51.24 | cuit | ompaul: Isn't it great how logic works? ;D |
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| 20:52.36 | ompaul | cuit: everything is obvious when you know the answer ;-) |
| 20:52.50 | ompaul | was bitten by a wiki page not one hour ago |
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| 20:53.54 | cuit | Curse the closetab buttons placement on Konversation! |
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| 20:54.01 | babilen | !tell rainfyre about make squeeze sources.list |
| 20:54.17 | ompaul | babilen: pm for a mo? |
| 20:54.25 | babilen | sure |
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| 20:55.01 | cuit | Hey my lm-sensors is reporting this: "acpitz-virtual-0 Adapter: Virtual device temp1: +40.0°C" could this be my nvidia gpu? also can anyone explain the funky 'Â'? |
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| 21:06.46 | Xtreme | guys how to do screencast on gnome3? |
| 21:07.04 | Xtreme | a friend told me here that with combination of two buttons, i can record videos |
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| 21:09.54 | babilen | Xtreme: Take a look at the results of "apt-cache search screencast" |
| 21:10.36 | babilen | Xtreme: Plus: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet#Screencast_recording (first hit on google for "gnome3 screencast") |
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| 21:10.45 | babilen | I am sure that you can find more information |
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| 21:14.49 | Xtreme | babilen, any ways to change format? webm to something common? |
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| 21:15.30 | abrotman | does it not have documentation? |
| 21:16.33 | babilen | Xtreme: Otherwise use libav -- apt-cache show libav-tools |
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| 21:19.27 | Xtreme | abrotman, does it? |
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| 21:26.12 | ujjain | How can I mount a partition like this? http://pastebin.visilang.com/view/raw/862cf9c4 |
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| 21:28.58 | wilee-nilee | ujjain, sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt |
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| 21:30.12 | ujjain | it mounts a 500mb partition |
| 21:30.14 | ujjain | not sure why |
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| 21:33.59 | klync | ujjain: how did the volume get gpt partitioned? is there supposed to be data on it presently? |
| 21:34.05 | ujjain | Yes |
| 21:34.10 | ujjain | the hard disk comes from a home NAS |
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| 21:34.57 | klync | and you can't mount it as root with "-t auto"? |
| 21:35.26 | ujjain | mount: unknown filesystem type 'linux_raid_member' |
| 21:35.34 | Bogus | So I had a raid 5 go down. It seemed to just kick drives out (2) for no real reason... they tested fine. So I tried to do a create with --assume-clean and recreate it leaving the first drive to drop out "missing" but I'm getting an error: |
| 21:35.38 | Bogus | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:36.22 | Bogus | I booted to a live cd and got it to "create" but it says no superblock because it doesn't see a valid partition when I try to mount. What can I try? |
| 21:37.27 | abrotman | ujjain: what's uname -a? |
| 21:37.59 | ujjain | I was able to mount it |
| 21:38.03 | ujjain | via -t ext4 |
| 21:38.15 | klync | yay |
| 21:38.27 | klync | maybe do -o ro if you're recovering data |
| 21:39.13 | ujjain | No, I want to use it in this machine. |
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| 21:46.57 | spligak_ | So I'm trying to get mesa direct rending setup, but I need the 386 arch. Looking at a pretty nasty resolution when trying to install it: http://pastebin.com/DzyCHjSC -- not sure I've taken the correct route here. |
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| 21:54.48 | waza-ari | Hi all, i need a more recent openssh version than 5.5 in the stable repository (at least 5.7). Is there another way (another repo or sth like that) than building it from source? |
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| 21:56.34 | dawud | ,v openssh-server |
| 21:56.35 | judd | Package: openssh-server on i386 -- lenny: 1:5.1p1-5; squeeze: 1:5.5p1-6+squeeze2; sid: 1:6.0p1-3; wheezy: 1:6.0p1-3; experimental: 1:6.1p1-1 |
| 21:57.30 | waza-ari | can i use the sid package in an squeeze environment? |
| 21:57.44 | dawud | waza-ari: put 'deb-src http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ sid main' in oyur sources.list |
| 21:58.17 | dvs | !ssb |
| 21:58.17 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 21:58.33 | dawud | dvs: thanks |
| 21:59.16 | dvs | dawud, bad ide |
| 21:59.21 | dvs | idea |
| 21:59.37 | waza-ari | dawud, dvs: thanks |
| 21:59.47 | dawud | dvs: bad idea? what exactly? |
| 22:00.13 | dvs | dawud, mixing versions |
| 22:00.19 | dvs | oh, sorry |
| 22:00.19 | dvs | my bad |
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| 22:00.58 | waza-ari | before i do that: ssh > 5.7 supports hard links via sftp. i guess the other server also need a similar version to support that? |
| 22:01.18 | dawud | dvs: yeah, I was going to describe he process of backporting when your triggered the factoid |
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| 22:05.14 | nmschulte | When I'm setting up a RAID 1 w/ two disks via mdadm, should I make the mirror on the disk level, or on the partition level? |
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| 22:10.36 | Posterdati | hi |
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| 22:24.01 | scwizard | on squeeze after I ssh in there's like a 1 second pause between the motd and me getting a prompt |
| 22:24.08 | scwizard | what's it doing during that time? checking to see if there's any updates? |
| 22:24.19 | scwizard | how can I disable it doing whatever it's doing during that time? |
| 22:24.44 | themill | scwizard: do you have bash-completion installed? |
| 22:25.07 | scwizard | themill: yeah I think |
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| 22:28.32 | scwizard | I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. I have bash completion in centos also and I don't have this problem |
| 22:28.48 | themill | sourcing all the different scripts is known to be slow (and has changed in wheezy) |
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| 22:32.23 | scwizard | themill: is there a workaround? |
| 22:32.46 | themill | take a sip of coffee while you wait? |
| 22:33.13 | scwizard | bleh I'll just upgrade to wheezy >_> |
| 22:33.23 | themill | check over other stuff in your shell's startup files to make sure it's not something else silly in them |
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| 22:35.06 | scwizard | themill: I uninstalled bash completion and it's still slow... |
| 22:35.55 | theplanet | why would apt-get download not work in debian but work in ubuntu |
| 22:36.03 | themill | dpkg: tell theplanet about doesn't work |
| 22:36.56 | theplanet | % apt-get download pgpdump |
| 22:36.56 | theplanet | E: Invalid operation download |
| 22:37.09 | theplanet | on 6.0 |
| 22:37.25 | scwizard | themill: so between the motd and the shell, I know it checks for mail |
| 22:37.28 | theplanet | using apt 0.8.10.3 |
| 22:37.30 | scwizard | I'm pretty sure it also checks for updates |
| 22:37.30 | themill | theplanet: sure. apt-get only learnt "download" after squeeze was released |
| 22:37.36 | scwizard | where can I confiugre these behaviors? |
| 22:37.41 | theplanet | themill, oh! |
| 22:37.45 | theplanet | so i'm using sid |
| 22:39.17 | babilen | theplanet: You should therefore have apt 0.9.7.5 not 0.8.10.3 (if you are actually using sid) -- Could you show us the output of "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy apt" on http://paste.debian.net please? |
| 22:39.52 | theplanet | babilen, Installed: 0.8.10.3+squeeze1 |
| 22:39.53 | theplanet | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.53 | theplanet | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.57 | theplanet | oh |
| 22:40.06 | theplanet | you wanted that on a pastesite. sorry |
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| 22:41.41 | babilen | theplanet: Looks as if you are using squeeze not sid (which would also explain the lack of "download") |
| 22:41.54 | theplanet | okay then |
| 22:42.09 | theplanet | there ought to be a command to get a later source version of a package and build it yourself |
| 22:42.19 | babilen | dpkg: tell theplanet -about ssb |
| 22:42.26 | theplanet | that it wouldn't require teh maintainers to compile everything |
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| 22:42.41 | themill | dpkg: tell theplanet about backport caveat |
| 22:42.49 | babilen | theplanet: Check "/msg judd checkbackport PKG" first and read http://ircbots.debian.net/judd/userguide.html to understand what that command does |
| 22:43.09 | themill | eek... that url is likely to change |
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| 22:43.26 | theplanet | is backport more recent version of the softwwre |
| 22:44.42 | scwizard | "The contents of /etc/motd are displayed by login(1) after a successful login but just before it executes the login shell." damn lies... |
| 22:44.54 | scwizard | it is AT LEAST checking for mail and probably doing something else that's slow that I don't know about |
| 22:44.57 | scwizard | like checking for updates |
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| 22:45.54 | scwizard | I know there's some where I can configure and control this behavior but where??? |
| 22:45.57 | scwizard | I can't find where this is documented |
| 22:46.21 | ompaul | theplanet: just for kicks please pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list and if you use sources.list.d/* please paste that (it will be one or the other) |
| 22:46.46 | themill | scwizard: MAILCHECK -- but I doubt that takes very long unless you have a huge number of users on your machine |
| 22:47.14 | theplanet | ompaul, whatever turns you on |
| 22:47.16 | scwizard | themill: what is MAILCHECK is it an environment variable or what? |
| 22:47.35 | theplanet | ompaul, http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?426b94bb0ba02a3a#vGRJCz3wAKSt5ql73lytDj6pEEb3OFqJ8qGZ2SYfmio= |
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| 22:47.43 | themill | scwizard: yeah, see man bash; I doubt it's your issue though |
| 22:47.45 | theplanet | first to click that gets to read it |
| 22:48.02 | ompaul | theplanet: paste.debian.net is kind of more fun cos it has no adverts and all sorts of stuff |
| 22:48.03 | scwizard | themill: so do I |
| 22:48.12 | Somelauw | Why doesn't sl always automatically include the possibility to interrupt it? |
| 22:48.24 | theplanet | ompaul, this has adverts?? damn i never getg to see thse any´more! |
| 22:48.24 | themill | Somelauw: that's its job |
| 22:48.26 | ompaul | theplanet: and that one want's javascript to work ... not on your nelly |
| 22:48.28 | theplanet | if i had known i wouldnt have used it ompaul |
| 22:48.28 | theplanet | sorry man |
| 22:48.44 | theplanet | ompaul, do you wish me to repaste? |
| 22:49.03 | Somelauw | themill: it requires an -e parameter, so I can interrupt it |
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| 22:49.53 | ompaul | theplanet: I would like to see just in case there is something else there we should think about |
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| 22:50.58 | theplanet | ompaul, http://paste.debian.net/197120/ |
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| 22:52.02 | multi_io | I thought the PulseAudio problems were a thing of the past now? |
| 22:52.10 | scwizard | so the delay is between where it gives my last login date and when it gives me a shell |
| 22:52.12 | ompaul | theplanet: so you are on squeeze - got a good reason to upgrade given your software is security updated so shouldn't be bad? |
| 22:52.23 | scwizard | so after motd and checking for mail |
| 22:52.26 | multi_io | installed it on testing, and now I'm back to 1998. One one program can play sound. Great. |
| 22:52.29 | scwizard | which fyi are controlled in |
| 22:52.40 | scwizard | here: /etc/pam.d/sshd |
| 22:53.13 | theplanet | ompaul, is there a simple way to tell when the system was installed? i mean the date, that is |
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| 22:54.39 | ompaul | theplanet: check the apt logs |
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| 22:56.35 | theplanet | start date is 2011-10-23 |
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| 22:57.21 | theplanet | yeah, that could very well be the date when i installed squeeze! |
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| 22:58.58 | theplanet | i think that ýou could just dd an iso to a usb drive and install debian over that back then |
| 22:59.15 | theplanet | or did that hybrid iso change occur later on |
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| 23:45.57 | Thomson | hey, can someone give me some help with kernels/modules (especially modules.dep) please? i'm trying to setup a vpn and iptables throws me the error that modules.dep is missing |
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| 23:46.27 | sney | I'm not sure why iptables cares about modules.dep. |
| 23:47.16 | Thomson | i can qry you the full error |
| 23:47.53 | sney | if you want to put full errors somewhere, put them on http://paste.debian.net/ and link in the channel |
| 23:48.02 | jexo | Thomson: did you do a kernel update recently? |
| 23:48.04 | sney | also include what debian version this is |
| 23:50.28 | Thomson | http://pastebin.com/knZULK6E |
| 23:50.43 | Thomson | i included the version |
| 23:51.15 | Thomson | jexo i can't tell im not the only user |
| 23:51.15 | themill | that's not a debian kernel -- what sort of virtual machine is this? |
| 23:51.31 | Thomson | it's hosted server from vserver4u |
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| 23:53.15 | alesan | hi, I was wondering if there is any howto on recompiling the whole debian, ideally given a list of packages |
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| 23:54.01 | Thomson | if possible i would like to get that fixed without involving server4you which probably would take ages |
| 23:54.24 | peterrooney | alesan: (i) why? (ii) apt-src might be a place to start with just one package. |
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| 23:56.39 | brokencycle | hi folks, |
| 23:56.46 | alesan | peterrooney, I need to change a couple of flags in the compiler. Seveal packages give a 700% performance boost when I enable specific optimizations on my hardware |
| 23:57.06 | alesan | peterrooney, I would like to fully recompile a repository so that I can install from there |
| 23:57.14 | brokencycle | i've just come into bit trouble: Grub says: "error: file not found." then goes into rescue mode |
| 23:57.26 | alesan | maybe with a list of 100 or so packages first, peterrooney |
| 23:57.34 | themill | alesan: what hardware is this? |
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| 23:58.16 | alesan | themill, can you help me? ARM CortexA9 that needs to run a ARMEL binary as primary target |
| 23:58.30 | brokencycle | next, i say "ls", and get multiple entries for (md/0). How do i select the right one? |
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| 23:58.37 | brokencycle | ie, not the first? |
| 23:59.18 | themill | alesan: wouldn't you want armhf on that thing? |
