| 00:00.06 | jagginess | case`, that's an android device which you're doing hack-stuff.. the dude who's hacking that has an email address |
| 00:00.38 | case` | i am not actually using netbook, am on my mint system |
| 00:00.50 | abrotman | MOO! |
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| 00:01.10 | abrotman | tryy3: call your ISP |
| 00:01.19 | case` | <jagginess> will try contacting him |
| 00:01.36 | tryy3 | abrotman lazy :P i wanna do it through terminal |
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| 00:02.10 | damacus | for a very rough idea you can try wget'ing a file from somewhere |
| 00:02.33 | damacus | like firefox |
| 00:02.43 | case` | anyway, gonna go and see if i can find any other info before i bother the guy... thanks all for assists |
| 00:03.11 | tryy3 | damacus well i wanna know the upload too |
| 00:03.32 | damacus | ftp or scp a file up to some site :) |
| 00:03.43 | damacus | or use a web browser, etc |
| 00:04.25 | jagginess | tryy3, you wanna know the upload.. WELL TAKE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 00:04.47 | tryy3 | jagginess ? |
| 00:04.50 | jagginess | lol |
| 00:05.05 | jagginess | playing with da worrds |
| 00:05.21 | tryy3 | damacus so no command ment for checking or a program or similiar? |
| 00:05.53 | damacus | nothing simple. there is stuff like iperf and whatnot |
| 00:06.18 | damacus | usually used for testing speed between two sites you control |
| 00:06.47 | damacus | actually, there is something.. |
| 00:07.42 | damacus | http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~partha/diffprobe/shaperprobe.html |
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| 00:08.31 | tryy3 | damacus k thanks gonna check it out :D |
| 00:08.42 | damacus | np |
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| 00:09.22 | anomaly | I am curious what I might be missing. I have four websites. 3 are working fine, but when I added a 4th, it seems to be misbehaving. only variable I see different is the use of ServerName domain.us as opposed to the others being .org/.com. I have a template that I use to make new sites-available, changing the Servername and DocumentRoot |
| 00:09.43 | anomaly | for whatever reason, when you try the .us domain, it is loading the 000-default site |
| 00:10.01 | jagginess | anomaly, it's probably a dns record entry problem. check that first. |
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| 00:10.40 | anomaly | jagginess, yes.. I updated the A record to reflect the right ip, but when I ping the domain it still shows the old IP |
| 00:11.18 | simonlnu | rDNS also fixed? |
| 00:12.01 | jagginess | anomaly, you should wait a little while after making a dns change, and check later (12 hours heheheh) |
| 00:12.19 | simonlnu | depends on the TTL... |
| 00:12.42 | simonlnu | (that's what those numbers near the top are for) |
| 00:12.45 | anomaly | it may be the VPS that has not released it, I do not know. as I say, the domain provider is showing the new A record fine and dns check comes back right. however, the VPS may be at fault |
| 00:13.03 | anomaly | because it is their IP that comes up with a ping of said domain |
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| 00:13.41 | jagginess | well irc them, and ask them how long you'll hafta wait.. maybe they manually check the records you add |
| 00:14.17 | damacus | anomaly: you can test apache by editing your local computer's hosts file to point to the correct IP and then try visiting it |
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| 00:14.55 | simonlnu | also, when you edit dns, it's helpful to have the ttl low, if it's a large move/edit. |
| 00:14.56 | anomaly | interestingly enough.. when I ssh to the vps and ping the .us domain, it shows up with the right IP. it is only from the server here or my workstation that it still pings back the vps ip |
| 00:14.57 | jagginess | anomaly, what you mean the dns check comes back right? (you mean with "dig"/nslookup?-- maybe your local dns cache has to be flushed) |
| 00:16.13 | anomaly | jagginess, they have a dns check button. verifies the settings and the a record in use. I am not familiar how it does so with its web interface |
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| 00:17.40 | jagginess | anomaly, you're using um virtualhost with apache or something? |
| 00:17.56 | jagginess | anomaly, (how many ip# addresses do you have across the 4 websites?) |
| 00:18.21 | anomaly | jagginess, I was using a vps. now I am running a server box itself. I have the other three transferred and running fine |
| 00:18.30 | anomaly | it is this last one that is causing the issue, for whatever reason |
| 00:18.50 | anomaly | 1 ip. I just use named based virtual hosting |
| 00:19.18 | simonlnu | also check your conf, see if it's actually loaded ;) |
| 00:19.30 | anomaly | I did a apachectl -s and it showed Syntax OK :) |
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| 00:19.57 | simonlnu | and the vhost is there too? |
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| 00:20.15 | simonlnu | (just covering all the bases here) |
| 00:20.35 | anomaly | http://pastie.org/5038417 |
| 00:20.41 | anomaly | ^ edited for content of course |
| 00:20.56 | jagginess | anomaly, so you have two ips, an old one that contained your previous set of websites, and now your "new" ip.. |
| 00:21.06 | anomaly | and this is the template I change only the ServerName and DocumentRoot http://pastie.org/5038434 |
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| 00:21.26 | bretolius | quick question about polkit: I added my main user account to the list of sudoers, and confirmed that "AdminIdentities=unix-group:sudo" is in my localauthority.conf.d/51-debian-sudo.conf config, but when running "pkexec sh" I am still prompted for the root password... what gives? I thought this was supposed to allow for sudo enabled users to use their own password? (Running debian testing +gnome3) |
| 00:21.32 | anomaly | jagginess, the old IP was the one I was using with the vps. I am phasing it out to just the single new IP |
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| 00:22.07 | jvm_ | hi. um, i have an imagemagick installation on debian squeeze that doesn't support svg. the imagemagick guys are telling me it needs to be compiled with a special flag. on my ubuntu system it is. is there an easy way to get it on debian? |
| 00:22.15 | jagginess | anomaly, and one of your url's is still pointing to your old ip.. this is a dns issue somewhere with your provider.. if you just made the change.. then wait for sometime.. |
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| 00:23.00 | anomaly | jagginess, I updated it around 2pm (7:22 local time now) |
| 00:23.03 | jagginess | jvm_, sure, but first you have to install debian |
| 00:23.15 | anomaly | I will just give it a few more hours and try again |
| 00:23.26 | jvm_ | jagginess, i have a local ubuntu system and a remote debian system :p |
| 00:27.17 | jagginess | jvm_, apt-cache show imagemagick (wheezy testing) mentions svg for me.. |
| 00:27.17 | jvm_ | jagginess, would you be willing to give me a hint on that easy way you were talking about? |
| 00:27.37 | jagginess | jvm_, i dont know about previous editions.. |
| 00:27.45 | jagginess | jvm_, (so you can check and see if it says svg?) |
| 00:28.14 | nsadmin | jvm_, first figure out if you want to keep some stuff... |
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| 00:28.46 | tryy3 | isn't one of the bots here called dpkg? |
| 00:28.54 | abrotman | yes |
| 00:29.05 | jvm_ | jagginess, indeed it shows svg here, too. but the actual package installed doesn't support it. convert -list format|grep -i svg gives no result. |
| 00:29.06 | tryy3 | dpkg No such nick/channel |
| 00:29.06 | tryy3 | :S |
| 00:29.09 | jagginess | tryy3, not sure, but i know a hot butts down my alley :) jk.. |
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| 00:29.31 | jagginess | needs to test smthing |
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| 00:29.46 | nsadmin | !test |
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| 00:30.20 | tharkun | nsadmin: fail |
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| 00:31.23 | nsadmin | tharkun, yeah, what's up wit that? |
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| 00:32.21 | tharkun | ;P |
| 00:32.21 | jvm_ | jagginess, thanks for pointing it out, after reinstalling i had svg support. |
| 00:32.37 | abrotman | uh, the dpkg bot is missing? |
| 00:32.56 | abrotman | and since don is also ... |
| 00:33.34 | gnarface | no redundancy on dpkg? |
| 00:33.38 | gnarface | :( |
| 00:33.45 | tryy3 | where have dpkg went? |
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| 00:34.13 | abrotman | gnarface: there is .. or you could memorize them all |
| 00:34.22 | abrotman | summons aptitude! |
| 00:34.36 | gnarface | abrotman: i meant the bot |
| 00:34.42 | abrotman | i know |
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| 00:35.22 | rasusto | when using screen -x is there a way to set which screen session the terminal will size to? |
| 00:35.56 | bretolius | I guess all that was needed for polkit to work was a good resatart of the system |
| 00:35.57 | bretolius | derp |
| 00:36.17 | bretolius | (im sure there are better ways to do it, feel free to let me know) |
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| 00:38.18 | Miesci | Whats a good way to communicate with my friends over the internet in real time? |
| 00:38.52 | rasusto | >irc |
| 00:39.13 | bretolius | Miesci: depends on the goal |
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| 00:39.22 | bretolius | what kind of commuication? |
| 00:39.43 | jagginess | Miesci, ping |
| 00:39.49 | gnarface | thinks he is looking for pidgin |
| 00:39.50 | Miesci | bretolius: Talk about chicks and stuff |
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| 00:40.07 | rasusto | jagginess: lol |
| 00:40.12 | abrotman | Miesci: use a normal chat program .. what's so hard about tha t/; |
| 00:40.14 | abrotman | ? |
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| 00:40.23 | Miesci | abramart: Whats a normal chat program? |
| 00:40.25 | gnarface | Miesci: try pidgin |
| 00:40.25 | bretolius | I would say Chatroulett |
| 00:40.26 | Miesci | abrotman* |
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| 00:40.31 | bretolius | :V |
| 00:40.40 | abrotman | Miesci: choose your protocol firts |
| 00:40.41 | abrotman | first |
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| 00:40.45 | Miesci | Cause right now we talk on facebook |
| 00:40.49 | abrotman | so use that |
| 00:40.51 | Miesci | but facebook is da suk |
| 00:40.55 | bretolius | just kidding on that.... IRC is good, if your friends can manage. XMPP clients like pidgin work well too |
| 00:40.56 | Miesci | oh okay |
| 00:40.58 | tryy3 | is dpkg down? |
| 00:41.00 | gnarface | Miesci: pidgin supports google talk, irc, aol, icq, yahoo chat, and i think also msn and jabberd |
| 00:41.02 | simonlnu | so don't use it |
| 00:41.04 | abrotman | tryy3: scroll up |
| 00:41.05 | tryy3 | (the bot) |
| 00:41.06 | rasusto | pidgin has built in facebook chat support |
| 00:41.15 | Miesci | rasusto: ?? |
| 00:41.20 | tryy3 | abrotman i reloged, dont got the history |
| 00:41.26 | abrotman | tryy3: i bet |
| 00:41.27 | bretolius | Miesci: use gmail chat vanilla or gmail chat with pidgin |
| 00:41.41 | Miesci | bretolius: I tried, but they never log in lol |
| 00:41.41 | hasdf | pidgin + otr + jabber = the awesomeness |
| 00:41.47 | bretolius | well... |
| 00:41.48 | Miesci | bretolius: They always on facebook |
| 00:41.54 | abrotman | then use facebook |
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| 00:42.01 | Miesci | i'll try the pidgin |
| 00:42.03 | Miesci | for facebook |
| 00:42.07 | gnarface | Miesci: yea the otr plugin in pidgin makes otr super easy, its really handy if all your friends use it too |
| 00:42.08 | abrotman | good plan |
| 00:42.10 | bretolius | I think you will like it |
| 00:42.30 | bretolius | piding gets rid of the crap that is facebook.... they still listen in on what you talk about though |
| 00:43.10 | Miesci | wow, facebook uses XMPP? |
| 00:43.20 | abrotman | "XMPP" |
| 00:43.25 | gnarface | heh |
| 00:43.26 | bretolius | yup |
| 00:43.29 | bretolius | has since the beginning |
| 00:43.35 | abrotman | no, it hasn't |
| 00:43.37 | Miesci | I underestimate them |
| 00:43.44 | bretolius | well since a long time |
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| 00:44.08 | bretolius | Im pretty sure around 2009 I had xmpp access to facebook |
| 00:44.10 | bretolius | maybe sooner |
| 00:44.21 | abrotman | yeah, fb has only been around since like 2004? |
| 00:44.38 | bretolius | chat was what, 2006?7? |
| 00:44.41 | hasdf | yeah why shouldnt they? |
| 00:45.19 | tryy3 | what group make it possible to do apt-get ? |
| 00:45.28 | simonlnu | they do... ffs. jfgi |
| 00:45.54 | jagginess | tryy3, use synaptic.. it should popup with a gksudo box -- (if you're a sudoer, you should be able to do sudo apt-get) |
| 00:46.04 | simonlnu | idle pointless speculation when you can find out in milliseconds |
| 00:46.35 | tryy3 | jagginess dont got sudo installed... |
| 00:46.55 | jagginess | tryy3, yeah right.. you must not be using debian then |
| 00:47.10 | tryy3 | jagginess iam |
| 00:47.57 | abrotman | jagginess: i have debian boxes with no sudo |
| 00:47.59 | jagginess | awaits activation for his new email address so he can bug the people of debian-boot with speechsythn reports heheheh |
| 00:48.08 | bretolius | i just started running debian wheezy, after trying out debian stable for the first time. I have to say, as a novice linux user, testing is a lot easier to swallow than stable o.0 |
| 00:48.24 | bretolius | i really dig it |
| 00:48.25 | jagginess | abrotman, oh really.. thought that was part of base system |
| 00:48.31 | jagginess | me got it wrong |
| 00:49.14 | jagginess | this new speechsynth feature on the wheezy installer is really cool.. |
| 00:49.20 | LtL | tryy3: whats up |
| 00:49.55 | jagginess | here wheezy testing has sudo installed for me.. |
| 00:50.05 | abrotman | good for you |
| 00:50.51 | tryy3 | LtL hi :D iam not home atm so i bought a dedi with debian :P |
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| 00:51.16 | LtL | tryy3: i see |
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| 00:51.43 | tryy3 | LtL atm iam trying to learn groups and such :D |
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| 00:52.03 | LtL | tryy3: theres not mch to know really |
| 00:52.19 | tryy3 | LtL well i dont even know how to add someone to a group :P |
| 00:52.38 | Miesci | Okay I made a whitelist on facebook so only the people I actually talk to are on, but in pidgin, EVERYONE is still there... |
| 00:52.49 | Miesci | Does anyone use pidgin for facebook and have dealt with this? |
| 00:53.05 | abrotman | Miesci: i don't see th eproblem |
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| 00:53.25 | bretolius | you can make groups |
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| 00:53.35 | gnarface | you can hide offline users too |
| 00:53.41 | bretolius | I dont think it affects facebook, but I have not been a member for a year or so, so I dont really no |
| 00:53.44 | bretolius | know* |
| 00:53.49 | LtL | tryy3: you wanting sudo? install it and run /edit visudo program, 'adduser user group' iirc |
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| 00:54.22 | Miesci | bretolius: I thought since I made a whitelist, only those would show up in pidgin, I guess they don't? |
| 00:54.36 | LtL | tryy3: im noy in the sudo group nut i use sudo often.. kinda |
| 00:54.50 | LtL | s/noy/not |
| 00:54.50 | bretolius | i dont know anything about a whitelist feature Miesci, sorry... I dont have a facebook account |
| 00:55.02 | bretolius | I got rid of it about a year and a half ago |
| 00:55.30 | Miesci | facebook is so gayyyyy |
| 00:55.31 | LtL | tryy3: sorry, typing on this laptop where i am snt easy. |
| 00:55.36 | tryy3 | LtL "edit visudo program" ? |
| 00:55.44 | jagginess | Miesci, ok now.. time to go play with pidgin |
| 00:55.45 | hasdf | Miesci, you are so homophobic. |
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| 00:56.06 | bretolius | Miesci: get your friends email and phone number.... talk the ones you can into running gmail chat or something and quit :) |
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| 00:56.25 | jagginess | gives Miesci 911 |
| 00:56.26 | bretolius | they are only selling your social-graph to advertisers and governments |
| 00:56.30 | hasdf | because google is so much better than facebook :D |
| 00:56.38 | LtL | tryy3: use the visudo program as root, add one little line with your username will give you all sudo powers. no group needed really. |
| 00:56.46 | Miesci | hasdf: Well it isw |
| 00:56.49 | bretolius | its less anoying |
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| 00:56.54 | bretolius | but just as bad in most ways |
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| 00:57.22 | Miesci | Im gunna delete all my friends on facebook and just add the ones I talk to lol |
| 00:57.26 | LtL | tryy3: you'll edit the /etc/sudoers file via visudo |
| 00:57.46 | gnarface | google talk is superior |
| 00:57.47 | tryy3 | LtL 'nano visudo program' ? |
| 00:58.12 | LtL | tryy3: no no, as root type/run 'visudo' |
| 00:58.18 | tryy3 | LtL oh |
| 00:58.29 | jagginess | Ltl, not sure if he know the different between / and superuser |
| 00:58.29 | hasdf | hmm. most of my friends got over google/gmail. lock-in effect of facebook is harder :P |
| 00:58.35 | jagginess | LtL, (he's still new to linux) |
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| 00:59.05 | tryy3 | LtL http://puu.sh/1dNhk ? |
| 00:59.07 | LtL | jagginess: yeah, he works hard tho :) |
| 00:59.07 | bretolius | hasdf: i find it the other way. Quiting facebook was easy. Its mandated I use google apps for school :p |
| 00:59.28 | LtL | tryy3: perfect |
| 01:00.30 | tryy3 | LtL k :D |
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| 01:03.11 | Miesci | sweet, I just added the people into a new group, then just deleted the facebook group! NICE |
| 01:03.11 | LtL | jagginess: i shouldnt type the forward slash without good reasonm i.e. type/run, this keyboard im not used to. |
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| 01:03.31 | Miesci | shit |
| 01:03.48 | Miesci | I logoff, login, facebook friends group is back, the group I made is gone....... |
| 01:03.57 | bretolius | lol |
| 01:03.59 | bretolius | wuut |
| 01:04.01 | Miesci | I guess you can't make groups for pidgin facebook |
| 01:04.08 | LtL | Miesci: whats facebook, |
| 01:04.16 | bretolius | i remember yourfacebook friends getting imported in pidgin |
| 01:04.25 | Miesci | LtL: I wish I could ask that same question. |
| 01:04.27 | bretolius | you might want to ask over at #pidgin? |
| 01:04.34 | Miesci | yea good idea ty |
| 01:04.47 | bretolius | Miesci: also, there is a full on plugin you might want to try |
| 01:04.49 | bretolius | for facebooik |
| 01:04.54 | bretolius | icon and everything! |
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| 01:05.34 | gnarface | a pidgin plugin for facebook, bretolius? |
| 01:05.41 | bretolius | no other way around |
| 01:05.46 | bretolius | err |
| 01:05.46 | bretolius | wait |
| 01:05.50 | bretolius | yes |
| 01:05.56 | abrotman | gnarface: there is, it sucks, it's randomly broken last i knew |
| 01:06.15 | gnarface | noted |
| 01:06.20 | gnarface | doesn't have a facebook account anyway |
| 01:06.42 | bretolius | but yeah, ultimately, my recomendation... gtfofb |
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| 01:07.11 | bretolius | we are super off topic |
| 01:07.35 | gnarface | on topic; udpcast is super awesome |
| 01:07.53 | bretolius | I dont know what that even is! :v |
| 01:08.13 | gnarface | !udpcast |
| 01:08.18 | gnarface | oh that's right its dead |
| 01:08.59 | bretolius | do you need special switches for multicast? |
| 01:09.04 | bretolius | and nics etc? |
| 01:09.18 | gnarface | i don't think so |
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| 01:09.41 | gnarface | even if you have a stupid half-duplex hub it will fail over to broadcast supposedly |
| 01:09.48 | gnarface | it'll just not be as fast |
| 01:09.53 | bretolius | I though the limiting factor on multicast over the internet was that ISPs didnt have the hardware to support it? |
| 01:10.07 | gnarface | there are ways around that |
| 01:10.29 | gnarface | but even if there weren't, udpcast would still be useful for file distribution on clusters |
| 01:10.56 | bretolius | could you use it with rsync somehow? |
| 01:11.09 | gnarface | i'm still trying to figure that one out |
| 01:11.21 | gnarface | or how to use rsync with multicast addresses directly perhaps |
| 01:11.37 | gnarface | i've discovered it to be very useful with tar though |
| 01:11.49 | bretolius | you rsync that udpcast! |
| 01:12.18 | gnarface | udp-receiver --nokbd 2>/dev/null |tar xpf - |
| 01:12.40 | tryy3 | LtL thanks its working :D |
| 01:12.44 | bretolius | now.. back to figuring out why my PV that are part of my initial LG are showing up as perhipheral devices in Disk utility |
| 01:13.02 | gnarface | tar cpf . |udp-sender --full-duplex --nokbd |
| 01:13.04 | LtL | tryy3: great |
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| 01:15.15 | gnarface | can you rsync to stdout? that doesn't seem to even make sense |
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| 01:21.43 | icedtea | when creating a debian package, how do you get a post installation script called? |
| 01:23.42 | bretolius | Does anyone have any clue why my root and swap partitions are showing up as perhipheral drives? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bretc/8078612749/in/photostream/lightbox/ |
| 01:24.17 | bretolius | it came out that way after setting up the LVM during the install last night |
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| 01:28.05 | tryy3 | will dpkg be up and running soon? |
| 01:28.25 | abrotman | we don't know .. |
| 01:28.30 | abrotman | tryy3: why do you need the bot? |
| 01:28.47 | tryy3 | abrotman cuz iam new and dpkg is easy :D |
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| 01:28.57 | abrotman | tryy3: what information do you need? |
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| 01:29.36 | tryy3 | abrotman needed to know if wget is able to download a file and not extract and stuff? never really used wget except someone tells me to do it |
| 01:29.47 | abrotman | extract what stuff? |
| 01:29.58 | tryy3 | no just download a zip file |
| 01:30.06 | abrotman | so just use wget, it will download it |
| 01:30.19 | tryy3 | ah |
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| 01:39.54 | LtL | tryy3: wget is just a cli tool for grabbing files from the web. |
| 01:40.17 | tryy3 | LtL k then i can do a update section :P |
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| 01:41.24 | LtL | tryy3: im not following you. wget and upgrades have little if nothing in common, elaborate |
| 01:41.50 | tryy3 | LtL cuz wget can download the update files :P |
| 01:42.57 | abrotman | so can apt ? |
| 01:43.13 | LtL | tryy3: yeah well use APT, apt-get or aptitude or gui synaptic fetch, install and or upgrade packages. |
| 01:43.15 | tryy3 | abrotman its for bukkit |
| 01:43.28 | tryy3 | its not for packages ^_^ |
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| 01:45.25 | abrotman | waits for the translation |
| 01:45.37 | LtL | tryy3: for that if wget floats your boat, do it :) |
| 01:45.59 | tryy3 | LtL :) |
| 01:46.38 | abrotman | OMG, use curl! |
| 01:47.02 | tryy3 | whats curl? |
| 01:47.16 | LtL | light bulbs just lit up in tryy3's head |
| 01:47.19 | jagginess | curl is that most boring sport we canadians play and get a dumb gold medal for it |
| 01:47.24 | LtL | lol man curl |
| 01:48.00 | tryy3 | oh that curl... |
| 01:48.24 | jagginess | but curl is also a program that can download from ftp and http |
| 01:48.28 | jagginess | of course.. |
| 01:48.28 | tryy3 | so i just apt-get a sport? :D |
| 01:48.29 | LtL | tryy3: curl is a command, install it |
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| 01:51.39 | tryy3 | curl is like wget but more advanced? |
| 01:52.27 | abrotman | it's a similar tool |
| 01:52.35 | gnarface | tryy3: curl is like wget but made by people who have been doing it longer |
| 01:53.12 | tryy3 | gnarface make sence :D |
| 01:53.26 | LtL | tryy3: no, curl is more a tool, you'll like it |
| 01:55.08 | gnarface | wget is more useful for archiving blogs and pillaging porn sites, curl is more for scripting and automation and diagnostics |
| 01:55.12 | gnarface | testing and shit |
| 01:55.30 | tryy3 | oh ok :P |
| 01:55.43 | LtL | gnarface: well put |
| 01:55.50 | jagginess | tryy3, and when you have the time curl those cookies |
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| 01:56.15 | tryy3 | jagginess but i want my cookies they are tasty |
| 01:56.28 | jagginess | tryy3, http cookies ;) (i dont think wget can handle 'em cookies) |
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| 02:00.13 | gnarface | i think wget can do cookies and headers and stuff too now but the interface doesn't really feature it well |
| 02:00.19 | redwarriors25 | how to start apache fix |
| 02:00.29 | abrotman | fix for what? |
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| 02:11.59 | b0agn | Is anyone working on porting Cinnamon to Debian? |
| 02:12.15 | icedtea | mmm cinnamon |
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| 02:12.27 | Armand | MMmmmmmmm... cookies |
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| 02:20.15 | wilee-nilee | to hard to look on the net. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=Cinnamon+to+Debian&gbv=1&sei=KH53UL_xENDdsgaFqIHQCg |
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| 02:21.34 | tryy3 | i know mkdir is for creating a directory but is there a command to get a file? |
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| 02:22.54 | dvs | "get a file?" |
| 02:23.08 | gnarface | tryy3: touch [filename] creates an empty file |
| 02:23.14 | tryy3 | creating a file* |
| 02:23.37 | tryy3 | gnarface including what file form too? like test.txt? |
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| 02:24.54 | gnarface | tryy3: linux doesn't make a global distinction like windows does about how to treat files, the question doesn't have contextual relevance |
| 02:25.15 | cortman | Does anyone here use tor/sasl to connect to the official (oftc) debian channels? |
| 02:25.15 | cortman | When I join I'm told my I am banned- my guess is because I use tor |
| 02:25.21 | gnarface | tryy3: name it whatever you want, it doesn't matter |
| 02:25.25 | cortman | But since my internet is all tethering from my mobile, I need to use tor/sasl auth. |
| 02:26.12 | cortman | Anyone know of any now-tos or instructions? I'm quite willing to learn but quite a newb at IRC. |
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| 02:29.55 | redwarriors25 | how to start apache fix |
| 02:30.45 | dvs | redwarriors25, your questions makes no sense |
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| 02:39.51 | damacus | :7 |
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| 02:41.12 | ska | thewanderer1: hey.. it worked.. GPT support in there. |
| 02:41.17 | b0agn | wilee-nilee: Thanks, I try not to use google. The debian wiki has poor search functionality. |
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| 03:03.33 | tryy3 | bah, curl is to advanced for me :D |
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| 03:04.20 | Vasistha | I have a pdf file I'm using as a pdftk multistamp. I would like to make the stamps semi-transparent, so they are overlayed on the output pdf with an alpha blend rather than being stamped opaquely on top. I don't think this is possible with pdftk, but is there a way to convert the multistamp pdf to, say, 50% opacity throughout? |
| 03:05.02 | LtL | tryy3: something like, curl -sI http://www.domain.com | grep Server |
| 03:06.15 | tryy3 | LtL i just want it to download http://cbukk.it/craftbukkit.jar that file |
| 03:06.34 | LtL | tryy3: use wget |
| 03:06.49 | tryy3 | LtL k :P |
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| 03:08.13 | tryy3 | how do i delete a file? |
| 03:08.16 | tryy3 | with command |
| 03:08.23 | LtL | tryy3: rm |
| 03:08.34 | tryy3 | ah |
| 03:08.39 | LtL | tryy3: shred |
| 03:09.49 | tryy3 | how do i rename something? |
| 03:09.58 | LtL | tryy3: mv |
| 03:09.58 | tryy3 | nvm... |
| 03:10.05 | tryy3 | didn't need to rename :D |
| 03:10.15 | LtL | or rename |
| 03:10.16 | tryy3 | how do i move something? |
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| 03:10.26 | LtL | mv too |
| 03:10.37 | LtL | neat huh |
| 03:10.53 | tryy3 | oh :P |
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| 03:15.16 | tryy3 | whats the command for changing permissions? |
| 03:15.26 | LtL | tryy3: chmod |
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| 03:15.53 | LtL | tryy3: learn octals they're cool |
| 03:16.44 | tryy3 | octals? |
| 03:17.21 | LtL | tryy3: yes, numeric format for chmod |
| 03:17.51 | tryy3 | oh |
| 03:18.24 | tryy3 | http://puu.sh/1dPD0 should that be working or am i completly wrong |
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| 03:18.27 | tryy3 | (.sh file) |
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| 03:20.37 | LtL | tryy3: use a bang line for starters #!/bin/sh |
| 03:20.45 | tryy3 | oh ye forgot :P |
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| 03:21.30 | tryy3 | LtL ./update.sh: line 7: syntax error near unexpected token `}' |
| 03:21.56 | LtL | tryy3: your script buddy :) |
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| 03:22.25 | tryy3 | but iam new ;P |
| 03:23.54 | tryy3 | i guess i go and check other scripts :P |
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| 03:36.36 | tryy3 | yay i fixed it :P |
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| 03:44.45 | tryy3 | LtL does it work to change the name of a .log file same time you moving the file? |
| 03:45.24 | LtL | tryy3: why do you want to |
| 03:46.18 | tryy3 | LtL for backup a .log file i wanna change the name of it to the same date as it will run the backup, and then i want it to be moved to a folder :P |
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| 03:47.20 | LtL | tryy3: logrotate goes it for you, unless youre talking a non-system log |
| 03:47.40 | LtL | does rather |
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| 03:49.07 | tryy3 | gonna check out logrotate then |
| 03:49.32 | LtL | tryy3: if you change the name the timestamp changes too i believe |
| 03:49.55 | tryy3 | or i can make my own logrotate :P |
| 03:50.01 | LtL | tryy3: system logs dont mess with let logrotate work |
| 03:50.17 | tryy3 | its for a minecraft server ^_^ |
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| 03:50.37 | LtL | tryy3: i would script that |
| 03:51.26 | LtL | tryy3: check out a bash scripting tutorial. |
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| 03:52.23 | Armand | Flashybrid... "To use this package, you will need a 2.4 or greater version of the Lainux |
| 03:52.24 | Armand | kernel, with tmpfs support built in." |
| 03:52.37 | Armand | What's "Lainux" ? |
| 03:53.44 | LtL | a candidate for a google search |
| 03:53.58 | LtL | i dont know :) |
| 03:54.06 | Armand | lol |
| 03:54.19 | Armand | A typo, I know... but.. come on, guys.. :P |
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| 04:02.28 | sney | Armand: 2.4 was the linux kernel version in approximately 2004 and earlier. everything currently being used is newer than 2.4 (we hope.) most are 2.6 and 3.0 |
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| 04:03.04 | Armand | sney, you missed the point. ;) |
| 04:03.34 | tryy3 | "strict subs" what does that mean? |
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| 04:04.18 | sney | Armand: this is a support channel. if you want to goof off, go to #debian-offtopic. |
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| 04:05.10 | Armand | sney, if you can't understand... just ask, I'll explain. |
| 04:07.37 | sney | Armand: I only see you quoting something about a 2.4 kernel requirement and a typo. and a "come on, guys". ok, I'll bite - explain. what has that got to do with debian? |
| 04:08.13 | Armand | It's in the repos. |
| 04:09.11 | Armand | I do apologise if *you* deem it 'unimportant'.. doesn't mean you have to get out your pram for it. |
| 04:09.19 | sney | flashybrid is, yes. I just checked the package info for both and I don't see the typo, so... |
| 04:09.31 | sney | er, just the one package info |
| 04:10.06 | sney | also, since this is a support channel and debian has many tens of thousands of packages, if you have something to report you should really lead with the details |
| 04:10.14 | sney | we ain't psychic |
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| 04:10.22 | Armand | You don't need to be. |
| 04:10.32 | Armand | I'm hardly going to remark on Fedora issues here. |
| 04:10.37 | Armand | facepalms |
| 04:11.11 | sney | and yet still not making with the details. Ok. look. if you have a support issue, ask a question. if you have a bug to report (this includes documentation errors), go to http://bugs.debian.org/ |
| 04:11.33 | Armand | Well, thank you for that seemingly useful advice. |
| 04:11.37 | sney | neither venue is terribly tolerant of noise, so again, lead with the details, and work on your signal:noise ratio. |
| 04:11.46 | Armand | KTHXBAI |
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| 04:18.41 | tryy3 | LtL you belive dpkg will be up soon? |
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| 04:19.17 | abrotman | tryy3: no one knows, end of discussion, you'll just have to wait for it to come back, [please stop asking |
| 04:19.30 | tryy3 | abrotman sorry i wait |
| 04:19.38 | sney | it's times like this that I can't remember anything. |
| 04:19.46 | sney | and we don't even have dselect |
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| 04:30.05 | basket | anyone have suggestions of how to get ALPS driver to use tap-to-click feature and side scroll feature of touchpad working? |
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| 04:31.25 | gnarface | basket: the only suggestion i know of is just the vague suggestion to check into the synaptics input module in xorg, and hope for the best hardware-support-wise (we're far behind apple on this one for most devices, unfortunately) |
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| 04:33.28 | basket | gnarface> i have tried many suggestions online including all 'proto=' settings... |
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| 04:34.17 | basket | gnarface> it seems that the only results are either: 1. tap-to-click feature enabled, side scroll disabled 2. tap-to-click feature disabled, side scroll enabled... |
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| 04:40.40 | gnarface | basket: sorry i don't have the means to even verify that statement for you, but i've no reason to believe your analysis of the situation is wrong. i suspect patches are welcomed |
| 04:43.41 | basket | gnarface> i wish had a better idea of how drivers worked and i would try to fix it. it seems i just have no luck with debian |
| 04:44.12 | basket | gnarface> fyi, touchpad works properly in other linux builds (ubuntu/linux mint) |
| 04:44.18 | gnarface | basket: well if it works on some other distro but not debian then its likely just a version mismatch or configuration issue you can fix |
| 04:44.46 | gnarface | basket: but you of course have to figure out what the differences are between debian and whatever you discovered to be working |
| 04:44.50 | basket | gnarface> that is reassuring and good to know :) |
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| 04:46.35 | gnarface | basket: other distros tend to default to newer, buggier versions of things (in order to get newer hardware support) and they also tend to install a lot of stuff by default that debian sees as optional and thus must be requested specifically |
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| 04:47.35 | lev_ | Just installed Wheezy for the first time, pretty happy so far. I had some issues with Gnome3 failing (I am using a VM) I disabled 3D acceleration on Virtualbox and it works fine now. Great job so far! |
| 04:48.05 | basket | gnarface> yes. i understand this. i can provide more information if you request certain things... like lspci, etc |
| 04:48.21 | basket | lev_> you like gnome? |
| 04:48.30 | gnarface | basket: there's nothing really i know about that device other than what i've told you |
| 04:48.55 | lev_ | It came by default - I actually use Bluetile + Gnome |
| 04:49.28 | lev_ | I dont really need Gnome3 to work, but before I turned off the 3D stuff it wouldn't even let me log into my account. |
| 04:50.44 | basket | gnarface> this seems to be similar to my issue. i will follow it: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=528532 |
| 04:51.32 | basket | lev_> i was curious as gnome doesn't seem to be widely accepted by the linux community... |
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| 04:53.20 | lev_ | Haha - that's a shame. Gnome used to be THE desktop envrionment... It has made some interesting decisions lately but I still think that overall its a usable desktop and the flaws are being blown out of proportion. The same thing happened with KDE4, Unity, etc... its just a phase people need something to talk about. Gnome has done a lot for the community and I hope they will continue to grow and appeal to whoever their new audience might be. |
| 04:54.55 | lev_ | As long as I have a terminal, emacs, and a fortran compiler I could care less what the desktop environment is. :) |
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| 04:56.57 | basket | lev_> powerful tools, they are! |
| 04:56.58 | basket | :) |
| 04:59.07 | lev_ | what Desktop Environment do you use basket? |
| 04:59.38 | basket | lev_> xfce for my slow/old computer :) |
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| 04:59.56 | lev_ | I like xfce, I have used it in the past its pretty solid! |
| 05:00.12 | lev_ | Rumor has it thats it going to be the default once 7 is stable? |
| 05:00.37 | Armand | I'm a KDE die-hard.. Always preferred it. |
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| 05:01.01 | Armand | No real justification.. just, comfortable with it. :P |
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| 05:01.18 | lev_ | Armand, I loved KDE3 -- never liked 4 at all I made the switch to Gnome 2 after KDE3 was killed off. |
| 05:01.36 | ska | I installed in expert mode, but I |
| 05:01.41 | lev_ | one of the machines in the basement lab runs Red Hat 5, and has KDE3 -- always makes me happy to use it. :) |
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| 05:01.57 | Armand | I was sad to see KDE3 die off, but I feel they have improved KDE4 a lot. |
| 05:01.59 | ska | missing a some source.list entries.. LIke i can't find icewm or openssh-server. |
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| 05:02.23 | ska | I just don't know what to put into sources.list for standard install. |
| 05:02.46 | ska | I got all the GPT partitions and raid working fine though. |
| 05:03.06 | lev_ | Armand, I tried Trinity which was the fork of KDE3 but its just not the same. |
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| 05:04.00 | Armand | lev_, I don't think I've used any forked project. O_o |
| 05:04.10 | Armand | Unless you count Android mods. |
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| 05:04.42 | lev_ | Ha - in my experience they don't fare too well, the intitial enthusiasm quickly wears off and the projects tend to slowly die off. |
| 05:05.00 | Armand | Yeah.. |
| 05:05.03 | simonlnu | !sources.list |
| 05:05.15 | simonlnu | missing bot |
| 05:05.26 | simonlnu | apt: sources.list |
| 05:05.26 | apt | If you have problems adding unofficial sites to sources.list, try "deb URL ./" or 'man 5 sources.list' or woody: 'deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free' or woody non-us: 'deb http://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free', or use apt-setup in package base-config to configure your sources.list, or examples: /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 05:05.27 | lev_ | LibreOffice is certainly an exception to that rule, and Ubuntu as well Is uppose. |
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| 05:05.37 | simonlnu | yikes... ignore that |
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| 05:05.44 | simonlnu | !sources.list |
| 05:05.44 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main". Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <squeeze updates> <squeeze security> and "man sources.list". |
| 05:05.48 | simonlnu | !wb |
| 05:05.48 | dpkg | thanks, simonlnu. It's good to be back. |
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| 05:06.19 | ska | I know how to install entries in sources.list, just don't know which to add. |
| 05:06.27 | simonlnu | dondelelcaro: wb ;) |
| 05:06.28 | ska | But I can just grab stuff off web. |
| 05:06.30 | basket | seems there is a new xserver-xorg-input-synaptics update. will see if that helps :) |
| 05:06.34 | tryy3 | oh dpkg is alive :D |
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| 05:06.53 | simonlnu | ska: that's what i was showing you ... |
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| 05:08.38 | ska | oh.. ty |
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| 05:09.05 | ska | http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ |
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| 05:09.29 | simonlnu | that ^^^ - basic contents for a squeeze sources.list |
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| 05:10.25 | tryy3 | :s i think my script deletes my .log file now :S when i told it just to move and change file |
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| 05:11.13 | Sapote | hi people! have a question for the gurus of traffic control, but i not find the correct channel. Anybody know channel of traffic control in freenode? Thanks |
| 05:11.49 | simonlnu | #netfilter, for linux, typically |
| 05:12.14 | Sapote | ohhh yes! very thanks simonlnu |
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| 05:58.37 | alusion | > can't find debian wheezy 32bit download |
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| 06:06.34 | LtL | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/ |
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| 06:07.01 | LtL | there are beta cd's available |
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| 06:15.59 | tekbwainz | anyone alive ? |
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| 06:16.35 | gnarface | no |
| 06:17.09 | tekbwainz | gnarface: good to know |
| 06:17.10 | tekbwainz | :D |
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| 06:21.41 | gnarface | so i would like to install in a single machine 3 standard-definition composite-input framegrabber cards and plug one component video cable into each, then mux their signals together somehow to get HD |
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| 06:22.12 | gnarface | i'm left with no other choices |
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| 06:44.55 | strk | ah, it's gnome-www-browser, sorry |
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| 06:47.09 | lng | Hi! I need to disable some Nginx modules, but having problems... Can anybody help please? |
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| 06:47.30 | lng | --with-mail was removed from debian/rules. I also made sure MAIL=NO in auto/options. After that I dpkg-buildpackage -b && dpkg -i /tmp/nginx_*.deb && /etc/init.d/nginx restart && nginx -V and still can see --with-mail. Why? |
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| 06:53.18 | simonlnu | lng: depends which one you install (with wheezy +) |
| 06:54.00 | lng | simonlnu: the one I compiled? |
| 06:55.15 | simonlnu | in the wheezy and up debian/rules, there's 3 or 4 different binary packages. you'll have to edit one (i recommend -extras) and remove it from that one, then install the one you edited once built. |
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| 06:56.52 | lng | simonlnu: it creates single .deb file... |
| 06:57.10 | lng | simonlnu: how can I use specific config? |
| 06:57.13 | simonlnu | this is the squeeze one then. |
| 06:57.34 | simonlnu | just make sure you edit the relevant section of the rules file |
| 06:57.49 | lng | debian/rules? |
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| 06:59.17 | simonlnu | yes... |
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| 07:04.44 | lng | when I buid it, I can see the module is nolonger listed |
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| 07:11.11 | mmnicolas | How does one change the ikiwiki admin password ? Search engines haven't seemed to pick that up |
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| 07:11.31 | lng | simonlnu: but I think it will be present after install |
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| 07:12.55 | mmnicolas | oh.. found it, it's just too obvious |
| 07:12.59 | simonlnu | that all depends if you do it right or not ;) |
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| 07:13.26 | lng | simonlnu: it has nginx-full, nginx-light, nginx-extras |
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| 07:13.45 | lng | simonlnu: seams like it builds all 3 |
| 07:14.08 | lng | and I install full version? |
| 07:14.43 | simonlnu | you install whichever one you edited, like i said |
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| 07:15.30 | lng | simonlnu: I don't get it. How does it determine it? |
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| 07:17.33 | lng | simonlnu: I can see this: http://pastie.org/5039839 |
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| 07:19.21 | lng | probably this is bacause of * in the command |
| 07:19.26 | lng | dpkg -i /tmp/nginx_*.deb |
| 07:19.26 | dpkg | installs /tmp/nginx_*.deb into lng's head with a bone saw and a few screws |
| 07:19.51 | simonlnu | read the rules file. each section has a name, read the name, it'll tell you which one |
| 07:19.57 | simonlnu | no... |
| 07:20.26 | simonlnu | you need at minimum the -common and the one you edited. don't install all of them. |
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| 07:20.34 | lng | simonlnu: what is I edited not only one section there/ |
| 07:20.40 | simonlnu | this is why you're seeing odd things. |
| 07:20.42 | lng | yea |
| 07:20.58 | lng | now I need to uninstall them |
| 07:21.10 | simonlnu | with * you're installing all of it, which is pointless. |
| 07:21.15 | lng | yea |
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| 07:24.07 | simonlnu | if there were -dbg packages built with that debian code, you'd also have a bunch of those installed |
| 07:24.37 | simonlnu | (the wheezy/sid stuff does, and renames stuff) |
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| 07:26.18 | lng | simonlnu: I got what I wanted finally. thanks |
| 07:26.22 | lng | for your help |
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| 07:39.12 | simonlnu | lng: np |
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| 07:39.22 | jtheuer | pm-suspend returns "flock: 3: Bad file descriptor" -- what does it mean? |
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| 07:42.14 | simonlnu | what it says. the fd (file descriptor, like STDIN, STDOUT, etc.) died or something. or it was given a spurious one. |
| 07:42.24 | simonlnu | tried googling the error msg yet? |
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| 07:46.18 | Eagleman | WHere do i get or install this file? libstdc++.so.5 |
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| 07:54.05 | tim_flatus | Is there a convenient way of getting gtk to reload its configuration without having to log out and back in again? |
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| 07:54.44 | jtheuer | simonlnu: yes, couldn't find anything in context with pm-suspend |
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| 07:55.14 | jtheuer | any way to find out which file (descriptor) failed? |
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| 07:55.51 | tim_flatus | I'm running classic gnome (3) on wheezy |
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| 07:58.09 | tim_flatus | I guess I should be able to restart the individual bits like gnome-panel and nautilus without restarting the session? |
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| 08:07.26 | tim_flatus | I'd like to have applications running as root (like synaptic etc) use a different theme. Are there any potential dangers in doing this? |
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| 08:17.35 | lancelot_of | hi there,please help me understanding my CPU.It often happens that during hibernation /resume from, i get a kernel message like this:" Uhhuh. NMI received for unknown reason 2c on CPU 0.".It's really annoying and i don't know if something is going wrong for my CPU.This is kernel independent (3.0,3.1,3.2,3.6).Moreover in powertop often i see the C7-SNB state of all 4 cores (Intel i5 2520M) always at 97-98% and, correspondingly,cpu temperat |
| 08:17.35 | lancelot_of | ure raises to 45-50° even with 0% of load.But, on the contrary, at the same time i see in htop all cores at 0-1%.What's happening?Please help |
| 08:18.41 | specing | Intel at its finest |
| 08:18.49 | simonlnu | jtheuer: sorry, i don't. i would maybe checking out the source first |
| 08:19.12 | jelly-home | lancelot_of: some of the hardware platform around that cpu is not properly reinitialized at resume |
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| 08:21.22 | lancelot_of | so what to do?how to fix?and what about temperature?how to correctly check for cores load and tune temperature? |
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| 08:22.42 | jelly-home | lancelot_of: report a bug to your hardware vendor and the linux-acpi mailing list, I guess |
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| 08:23.17 | jelly-home | or start with linux-pm |
| 08:23.41 | jelly-home | or try a newer or at least a different kernel first |
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| 08:24.23 | lancelot_of | what do you mean for starting with linux-pm (apart from the meaning of Power Management, of course)? |
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| 08:28.18 | jelly-home | the linux-pm mailing list |
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| 08:29.32 | tim_flatus | OK. I notice I can't run gsettings as root, therefore I assume this is a really stupid idea. |
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| 08:35.21 | lancelot_of | jelly-home, which channel?there's noone in freenode linux-pm |
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| 08:45.21 | klawd_prime | hi! |
| 08:45.34 | klawd_prime | is there a roadmpa to get php 5.4 into the offical repos'? |
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| 08:47.39 | themill | klawd_prime: php 5.4.4 will be the version of php in wheezy when it is released in a few months. It will never be in squeeze. |
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| 08:50.27 | Eagleman | Where can i download php4? |
| 08:50.42 | klawd_prime | i see, thanks |
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| 08:52.04 | nkuttler | Eagleman: you can install an obsolete debian release that has it.. or try to forward port it |
| 08:52.49 | nkuttler | !tell Eagleman about php4 |
| 08:53.08 | nkuttler | !tell Eagleman about archive |
| 08:53.27 | nkuttler | Eagleman: that would be etch |
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| 08:55.00 | Desproges | Hi, can you help me with a color prompt issue ? txtred='\033[0;31m'; PS1="$txtred Something$txtrst\$ " >> Error when command is too long for my scrren |
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| 08:56.22 | tousher | Hello. I have an executable file. I want to lookup the libraries it uses and then find the packages providing them. Is there an easier way than running ldd and dpkg -S myself? I found tools like dpkg-shlibdeps, but they don't seem to do what their manpages are saying they do |
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| 08:57.20 | Eagleman | hmm i need it for mediawiki |
| 08:57.38 | Eagleman | And its only running in my lan |
| 08:57.49 | Eagleman | so the security would not be a issue |
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| 09:06.42 | pascal | Hi, Does someone know where I can find 32bits gcc-3.4 packages for wheezy/sid ? |
| 09:06.59 | Sevet | Eagleman: you could try making a squeeze backport of the wheezy package |
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| 09:07.26 | Sevet | pascal: they don't exist |
| 09:07.48 | pascal | They don't exist officially but maybe... |
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| 09:08.08 | Sevet | well you could always build from source |
| 09:08.11 | pascal | I'll try the backport thing |
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| 09:08.24 | Sevet | pascal: they're not in backports either |
| 09:08.25 | Sevet | why do you want such an old version? |
| 09:08.30 | pascal | Sevet: of course, but that's a lot of work |
| 09:08.47 | pascal | Sevet: I have a old software that need libg2c |
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| 09:14.03 | colo-work | there's no newer kernel than 3.2 in sidor experimental? or am I looking the wrong way? |
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| 09:15.06 | ItzExor | 3.5 is there |
| 09:15.17 | ItzExor | 3.5.5 |
| 09:15.38 | ItzExor | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-image-3.5-trunk |
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| 09:15.51 | blackshirt | so |
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| 10:09.32 | boudiccas | i've just instaleed tor from the repos and rebooted and got it running, but do i have to configure /ever/ internet programme [xchat-gnome, claws mail, knode, deluge, etc] to use the tor network, or do i just run them normally please? |
| 10:09.46 | boudiccas | every |
| 10:10.36 | specing | don't use tor for everything |
| 10:10.54 | specing | its an unnecessary burden on the network. |
| 10:11.09 | jelly | tor is for torrents, right?? |
| 10:11.50 | boudiccas | jellymainly torrents yes |
| 10:11.56 | specing | ... |
| 10:12.28 | jelly | boudiccas: ur doin it rong |
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| 10:12.53 | boudiccas | jelly, how shoud i be doing it then please? |
| 10:12.55 | specing | Enjoy 10KB/s torrents, then... |
| 10:12.57 | jelly | tor is for low bandwidth, important traffic that you want anonymized |
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| 10:13.57 | boudiccas | like torrents |
| 10:14.02 | jelly | mails, news, surfing on sites your gvt doesn't want you to visit |
| 10:14.28 | jelly | torrents are a) not low bw b) not important |
| 10:14.34 | jelly | in general |
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| 10:15.01 | jmd | But one should make a habit of using Tor or something similar routinely, otherwise it becomes ineffective. |
| 10:15.13 | boudiccas | okay, i'm off to google then, thanks |
| 10:15.17 | Trewas | and if some torrent is too "dangerous" to be leeched without tor, maybe one should just avoid it |
| 10:15.23 | jelly | in fact, torrent protocol is probably as opposite of low bandwidth as possible |
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| 10:17.19 | jmd | Torrent reduces the *average* bandwidth, if there are many users accessing the torrent. But increases the individual's first hop bandwidth use. |
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| 10:18.15 | h32Lg | hi |
| 10:18.34 | jelly | boudiccas: of course, of you're transferring gvt dirty secrets via torrent, sure, go ahead and route your traffic thru tor |
| 10:18.45 | Sevet | especially tif they're the only seed for the segment or the users have disabled/limited their upload |
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| 10:20.38 | h32Lg | i create a php application which should be packaged as .deb (i do this with: debuild -i -us -uc) This package should be installed on our staging and live system. There is already a directory structure but how can i tell the debuild/dpkg -i where to install the content of my package? |
| 10:20.57 | gury | is it possible to set up a ThinkPad to not send energy to the Ultrabay so that hard disk spindles in it are not spinning unless the user needs it and issues a command? |
| 10:21.23 | Sevet | h32Lg: you pick the installation paths in the debian/ files & scripts |
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| 10:21.35 | jelly | but if you're leeching movies and mp3s... "not important" |
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| 10:24.20 | h32Lg | Sevet, ok, i tought so :) i guess it should done within the rules file? |
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| 10:24.44 | Sevet | mainly the files and/or install files |
| 10:24.53 | Sevet | !tell h32Lg about nmg |
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| 10:25.22 | Sevet | uh, why'd dpkg silent? |
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| 10:26.40 | h32Lg | Sevet, i'll take a look at google what nmg is ;) thank you for now |
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| 10:27.15 | h32Lg | ok, new maintainer guide :P |
| 10:27.16 | Sevet | h32Lg: read http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ |
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| 10:28.07 | Sevet | debian/rules builds and installs to a staging directory (usually debian/tmp), and debhelper packages files from there according to the other debian/ files... look at section 5 |
| 10:28.33 | h32Lg | ok :) |
| 10:29.02 | Sevet | you could also use 'apt-get source' to get existing php app packages and look at how they've done it as examples |
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| 10:29.59 | h32Lg | thats the master plan ;) |
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| 10:33.42 | h32Lg | HauM1, the install file was missing ;) thank you Sevet |
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| 10:37.45 | osfd | Hi there. For some weird reason, I can no longer plug a USB dongle and automount it... |
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| 10:38.28 | osfd | sorry, it works now |
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| 10:39.35 | osfd | though, when I plug it, both nautilus AND thunar auto open... |
| 10:39.55 | osfd | is it possible to tell nautilus to shut the F***K up ? |
| 10:40.05 | osfd | debian stable -- xfce |
| 10:42.15 | DotHack | any networking experts in here? or maybe a pointer to a channel for networking issues? |
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| 10:46.14 | Jarris | yes |
| 10:46.22 | Jarris | thats why i think so... |
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| 10:46.40 | Sevet | ok, who tripped over the cable? |
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| 10:47.01 | specing | Jarris: So what does the first line in the manpage say? |
| 10:47.19 | Jarris | specing: but how do i resize a ufs partion then? |
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| 10:47.48 | specing | Jarris: By using UFS tools, I guess? |
| 10:47.48 | Jarris | ther is now growfs and there are no ufsutils packages for lenny i found |
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| 10:48.09 | specing | lenny? Isn't that like ancient? |
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| 10:48.21 | boudiccas | this has just appearred in a logcheck email .. Oct 12 09:51:27 london kernel: [ 3314.166038] EXT3-fs (sdc1): warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended .. but sdc1 is an external usb hard drive, which is mounted automatically when its plugged in and seen by wheezy. how can i fsck it then please? |
| 10:48.21 | Jarris | specing: i dont like to deal with it |
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| 10:49.10 | Sevet | boudiccas: unmount, then fsck /dev/sdc1 |
| 10:49.12 | Jarris | specing: i will not be able to upgrade now, but be in truble to grow a disk |
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| 10:49.49 | boudiccas | Sevet, ah, right, thanks |
| 10:50.04 | Sevet | you can then mount again, or unplug and replug - but if you do that do 'sync' first |
| 10:50.52 | Sevet | ,v ufsutils |
| 10:50.53 | judd | Package: ufsutils on i386 -- squeeze: 7.3-1+b1; sid: 8.2-3; wheezy: 8.2-3 |
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| 10:51.10 | Sevet | lenny is no longer on mirrors |
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| 10:51.34 | Jarris | arent there backports? |
| 10:51.36 | Sevet | !tell Jarris about lenny sources.list |
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| 10:52.16 | Sevet | hmm, looks like was never in lenny. lenny-backports no longer exists, so no |
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| 10:53.16 | specing | Jarris: Why can't you upgrade? |
| 10:53.45 | Sevet | ah backports is on archive too - but it was never backported from squeeze to lenny either |
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| 10:54.54 | Jarris | becouse my boss dont pay me for upgrading a lennyserver from a customer, wenn the customer dont want to pay for it |
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| 10:55.15 | DotHack | any networking experts in here? or maybe a pointer to a channel for networking issues? |
| 10:55.30 | specing | DotHack: ##networking |
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| 10:55.31 | Jarris | i dont like what it is, but can not change right now... |
| 10:55.31 | Sevet | Jarris: is this a public server? |
| 10:55.44 | Sevet | Jarris: if so point out to the customer that lenny no longer gets security updates |
| 10:55.59 | Jarris | i will |
| 10:56.16 | specing | yeah, just tell them you can't do anything since their setup is no longer supported |
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| 10:57.02 | Sevet | Jarris: they should weigh the cost of paying for a upgrade vs a bot exploiting a hole in the server and them losing all their data |
| 10:57.15 | Sevet | (though that's the worst case scenario) |
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| 10:58.10 | Jarris | no its not conected to the internet |
| 10:58.32 | Jarris | makes it harder to argument agenst him.. |
| 10:59.54 | Sevet | 'k |
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| 11:00.32 | Sevet | you could try getting the growfs source and building it yourself |
| 11:00.44 | Sevet | anytime you play with the fs like that though, take a backup first |
| 11:01.06 | Jarris | than i would install all the compilers first ^^ |
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| 11:01.28 | Sevet | you -might- also find you can get the squeeze source package to build on lenny with a minimal amount of tweaking |
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| 11:02.06 | Sevet | (which you could do in a lenny vm if you can't install the build stuff on their machine) |
| 11:02.29 | Jarris | ... ham |
| 11:02.35 | Sevet | at some point it might be cheaper to upgrade it to squeeze for free though than jump through all the extra hoops to support an old distro ;) |
| 11:02.46 | Sevet | (faster=cheaper) |
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| 11:18.09 | Jarris | Sevet: i totaly agree with u, i did a less complex way now, justed added some new partions its not that propper but workes... |
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| 11:19.15 | Jarris | interesting that i didnt come up with this idea erlyer, but the usal way if ther is no space left "lvresize" |
| 11:19.29 | Jarris | any way, thank u all for helping me! |
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| 11:25.43 | cusco | hi |
| 11:26.51 | cusco | I have a dedicated server at a hosting company, and they provide a /64 ipv6 block. I edited interfaces and added a iface eth0 inet6 static stanza |
| 11:27.16 | cusco | after some minutes, I get no connection in ipv6 |
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| 11:27.29 | cusco | I don't understand why |
| 11:27.33 | mparodi | what partition manger do you suggest for Debian? |
| 11:27.46 | cusco | fdisk, cfdisk, parted, gparted |
| 11:28.11 | cusco | I set address, mask and gateway |
| 11:28.16 | cusco | what am I missing? |
| 11:28.23 | mparodi | I tried gparted for example but I get a (gpartedbin:30449): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0 |
| 11:28.50 | cusco | you need a X server to run gparted (gtk gui) |
| 11:29.02 | mparodi | I have one |
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| 11:29.31 | cusco | doesn't seem like |
| 11:29.34 | cusco | is it display 0 ? |
| 11:29.41 | mparodi | I even tried gksu gparted |
| 11:29.43 | cusco | env|grep -i display |
| 11:29.50 | boudiccas | mparodi, how big is the disk that you're trying to partition? |
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| 11:30.06 | mparodi | evn|grep -i display -> DISPLAY=:0 |
| 11:30.11 | p8m | cusco: can you ping6 your gateway? |
| 11:30.18 | cusco | p8m: I could, now I can't |
| 11:30.29 | cusco | p8m: I'm sure that if I reboot, I can again... for some time |
| 11:30.43 | mparodi | boudiccas, around 500GB |
| 11:30.52 | p8m | cusco: so you're saying that you setup ipv6, it works for a while, then later it doesn't work? |
| 11:31.01 | cusco | yes... |
| 11:31.02 | mparodi | any idea guys? |
| 11:31.10 | cusco | allow me to paste interfaces file p8m |
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| 11:31.51 | cusco | p8m: http://paste.debian.net/199436/ |
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| 11:33.11 | mparodi | it's working now |
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| 11:33.27 | mparodi | I executed xhost +, then gparted as root |
| 11:34.00 | themill | you'd be better off using something like sux |
| 11:34.13 | p8m | cusco: why do you add the address with a post-up ? |
| 11:34.40 | cusco | shouldn't I? |
| 11:34.43 | cusco | I read it somewhere... |
| 11:35.04 | cusco | actually here: http://guides.ovh.com/Ipv4Ipv6 since the server is ovh's |
| 11:35.20 | Dagger2 | oh gah, OVH |
| 11:35.26 | p8m | the "address 2001:41D0:1:6Caf::1" should set the ip right |
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| 11:35.37 | cusco | p8m: in english here http://help.ovh.co.uk/Ipv4Ipv6 |
| 11:35.47 | Dagger2 | forget what they say; use "netmask 56" |
| 11:35.54 | cusco | ok I can remove it, but I don't think that is causing a problem |
| 11:36.00 | Dagger2 | (and get rid of the post-up/pre-down since Debian will handle that) |
| 11:36.15 | cusco | 56 ? |
| 11:36.19 | cusco | why 56 ? |
| 11:36.31 | Dagger2 | because the network is a /56 |
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| 11:37.28 | cusco_ | sorry my connection fell.. it seems |
| 11:37.29 | Dagger2 | the setup you have there won't work, because 2001:41d0:1:6cff:ff:ff:ff:ff isn't inside 2001:41d0:1:6caf::/64 |
| 11:37.38 | cusco_ | last, you stated: 12:37 < Dagger2> because the network is a /56 |
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| 11:37.57 | p8m | In that english guide they add _additional_ ips with post-up. They don't add the first one again |
| 11:38.08 | cusco_ | ah ok sorry p8m |
| 11:38.11 | Dagger2 | the whole point of a default gateway is that it's the machine you use to talk to nodes outside of your network. if your default gateway itself is outside your network, then you have a catch 22 situation |
| 11:38.22 | Dagger2 | (you didn't miss anything, that was the last thing I said) |
| 11:38.26 | mparodi | <themill> you'd be better off using something like sux <-- I didn't know that, thank you! |
| 11:38.36 | cusco_ | I got the gateway from that guide also |
| 11:38.57 | cusco_ | in the info panel they state : IPv6 : 2001:41d0:1:6caf::/64 |
| 11:39.10 | Dagger2 | yup, they do |
| 11:39.12 | Dagger2 | they're wrong |
| 11:40.17 | cusco_ | and in the page "Route: IPv6 Gateway" they state: The router (default gateway) for each IPv6 is always on IP: v:6:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF |
| 11:40.33 | cusco_ | in their example: The IPv6 server: 2001:41D0:1:46e::/64 to 2001:41D0:1:4 + 5x FF. \\ IPv6 Gateway: 2001:41D0:1:4FF:FF:FF:FF:FF |
| 11:40.59 | Dagger2 | yeah, their example is broken too, since the gateway is outside the network in that case too |
| 11:41.04 | cusco_ | ow |
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| 11:41.47 | cusco_ | how can I be sure thath 2001:41d0:1:6cff:ff:ff:ff:ff is not inside 2001:41d0:1:6caf::/64 ? lol |
| 11:41.57 | cusco_ | not that I doubt you, but I would like to understand better |
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| 11:43.15 | Dagger2 | /64 means that all IPs that are in the given network start with the same 64 bits... which in this case is 2001:41d0:1:6caf:, but the gateway starts with 2001:41d0:1:6cff: |
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| 11:44.55 | cusco_ | I see |
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| 11:45.30 | cusco_ | so in a 64 mask, range is from 2001:41d0:0001:6caf:0000:0000:0000:0000 to 2001:41d0:0001:6caf:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff |
| 11:45.33 | cusco_ | right ? |
| 11:45.38 | cusco_ | and the gateway needs to be inside that |
| 11:45.43 | Dagger2 | yup |
| 11:46.34 | cusco | how got it back |
| 11:46.50 | nsadmin | cusco_"gateway inside that" is also true of ipv4 |
| 11:46.51 | cusco | so is it safe to just set the mask to 56? that seems wrong |
| 11:46.58 | cusco | nsadmin: you are right |
| 11:47.07 | weeb1e | good day |
| 11:47.23 | Dagger2 | in general no, you need to set the mask correctly. I just happen to know that /56 is correct for OVH |
| 11:47.57 | weeb1e | I have a technician who is attempting to install the latest debian squeeze from a netinst CD on a brand new HP G8 server, apparently it is not detecting the hard drives, does anyone know why that might be? |
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| 11:48.24 | Rienzilla | usually that's caused by the controller being not supported |
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| 11:48.35 | nsadmin | weeb1e, my first guess is the hd controller drivers |
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| 11:48.50 | cusco | Dagger2: lol ok. Will do |
| 11:48.50 | weeb1e | nsadmin: What would be required to get it working? |
| 11:49.00 | nsadmin | first find out what it is |
| 11:49.18 | nsadmin | can you boot a live cd and run lspci -nn |
| 11:49.23 | weeb1e | That was my guess too, but I have never had to install linux on a system with an unsupported controller |
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| 11:49.52 | nsadmin | and look for the line that says it's for the hd |
| 11:49.53 | weeb1e | I don't think you can boot a live system with a netinst CD, can you? |
| 11:49.57 | nsadmin | or that it is the hd |
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| 11:50.13 | nsadmin | no, you have to download a different image |
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| 11:50.26 | Dagger2 | weeb1e: you may get better results with the testing/unstable netinst cds |
| 11:50.35 | nsadmin | and it can be any live cd that boots and has lspci |
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| 11:50.53 | Dagger2 | (they install stable by default, it's just that the install disc itself is more up-to-date) |
| 11:50.59 | weeb1e | Ouch, this is going to be a rather big issue |
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| 11:51.38 | nsadmin | Dagger2, and, we can find exactly what the controller is... that ought to shorten the discovery process as well as tell us what kernel has the driver |
| 11:51.46 | weeb1e | Is there another (bigger?) image that would be more likely to include the controller driver, or is the unstable netinst the best option? |
| 11:52.01 | nsadmin | that's what we hope to find out |
| 11:52.05 | weeb1e | I don't suppose this helps: smartarray p420i |
| 11:52.14 | nsadmin | it's a raid? |
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| 11:52.17 | weeb1e | Yes |
| 11:52.29 | weeb1e | 4 drives in raid 0 |
| 11:52.45 | Dagger2 | nsadmin: well... even if you do figure out what it is, what choice is there for Debian other than "use the most recent installer image"? |
| 11:53.18 | Dagger2 | other than booting another distro and using debootstrap I suppose, but that's quite involved and probably not much more likely to work |
| 11:53.42 | nsadmin | well depending on whether the driver is actually present |
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| 11:54.15 | nsadmin | you could try hitting alt-f2, and see if lspci is there |
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| 11:55.43 | weeb1e | sounds like it works nsadmin, the techie is just looking for the controller info |
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| 11:56.05 | nsadmin | if he ran lspci, have him run lspci -nn |
| 11:56.34 | nsadmin | he will see something in each line that looks like [asdf:123j] |
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| 11:56.57 | nsadmin | need that (it's the "pci id") to feed to the UDD |
| 11:57.29 | weeb1e | he can't scroll back :P |
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| 11:57.55 | nsadmin | ok, he can try | more |
| 11:58.21 | Chousuke | hm :/ the radeon driver power management really sucks compared to fglrx |
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| 11:58.23 | nsadmin | maybe he can scroll... he can try shift-pageup |
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| 11:59.08 | Chousuke | I don't really care about battery savings but the ~15-20 degree temperature difference means that with the free driver my laptop is noisy as hell |
| 11:59.15 | weeb1e | anything specific he can look for to know which is the hard disk controller nsadmin? |
| 11:59.32 | weeb1e | this techie doesn't have much experience with linux :( |
| 11:59.36 | nsadmin | I dunno if the installer image has grep... |
| 11:59.52 | nsadmin | let me see what mine says |
| 11:59.56 | weeb1e | ok well hes going to give me everything that appears to be related to the hdd |
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| 12:00.33 | weeb1e | 4 port sata ide controller [8086:1D00] Rev 05 |
| 12:00.46 | nsadmin | he could try lspci -nn | grep -i raid |
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| 12:01.11 | nsadmin | hmm, it's just a sata controller? well let;s see... |
| 12:01.16 | weeb1e | nsadmin: raid bus controller [0104]:Hewlett Packard Company Device [103C:323B] Rev 01 |
| 12:01.21 | p8m | Chousuke: the free radeon driver has been getting a lot of fundamental work done in the past year. Those changes will show up soon. I don't know about power specifically |
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| 12:01.32 | nsadmin | , pciid [103C:323B] |
| 12:01.33 | judd | [103c:323b] is 'Smart Array Gen8 Controllers' from 'Hewlett-Packard Company' with kernel module 'hpsa' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=103c:323b |
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| 12:01.55 | nsadmin | aha... try modprobe hpsa |
| 12:02.23 | weeb1e | ok, thanks |
| 12:02.31 | nsadmin | did that work? |
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| 12:02.45 | weeb1e | waiting to hear, I'm just the middleman :| |
| 12:02.53 | themill | actually istr you want the squeeze-backports kernel for that controller (or pass interesting module parameters to the module to tell it to ignore the fact that it's not actually supported) |
| 12:02.58 | weeb1e | playing musical IRCs |
| 12:02.58 | p8m | Chousuke: There's also some weird situation where the gpu clock at boot is set for the entire session |
| 12:03.19 | Chousuke | p8m: I heard there will be something in the upcoming 3.7 kernel but from the description it seemed not that huge |
| 12:03.27 | Chousuke | I'm running a 3.6 kernel |
| 12:03.32 | nsadmin | themill, how can he get that? |
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| 12:03.50 | Chousuke | p8m: hmm. how do I test if that's the case? |
| 12:03.55 | themill | nsadmin: what you mean? |
| 12:04.08 | weeb1e | Does this mean the unstable netinst would support this controller? |
| 12:04.24 | nsadmin | well seems it would be the simplest if there were a squeeze installer with the backports kernel to boot and to install |
| 12:04.36 | Chousuke | though it seems setting power management to dynpm helps battery life a bit, it doesn't bring the temperatures down enough for the fan to slow down :/ |
| 12:04.38 | nsadmin | weeb1e, maybe |
| 12:04.43 | themill | !kmuto |
| 12:04.43 | dpkg | Unofficial images for installing Debian Squeeze/6.0 using a later kernel (currently Linux 3.2.4) are available from http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ (images are on the CD mirrors). To supply additional firmware, ask me about <installer firmware>. For a USB install, use the lenny instructions: http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 |
| 12:04.58 | nsadmin | oh, forgot about that |
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| 12:05.19 | nsadmin | that thing doesn't need firmware does it? |
| 12:05.28 | s70rm | how can i unlock locked ntfs partition |
| 12:05.33 | themill | you could always just click the link |
| 12:05.47 | weeb1e | and if not, would the latest ubuntu support this controller? (I'm trying my best to avoid ubuntu here and use debian, for stability. But with an inexperienced techie doing the installation, I need a reasonably simple solution) |
| 12:06.13 | themill | weeb1e: see what dpkg just said about kmuto's installer |
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| 12:06.38 | weeb1e | I made a step by step debian installation guide for the installation, which clearly isn't going to plan :P |
| 12:07.11 | weeb1e | themill: so he should try burn and use that image? |
| 12:07.13 | themill | weeb1e: alternatively, the hpsa_allow_any parameter for that hpsa module might work for you. The newer kernel would probably be a better bet though. |
| 12:07.39 | p8m | Chousuke: checkout this thread, AMD guy bridgman discusses long-term radeon driver work: http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?73824-Bridgman-Is-No-Longer-quot-The-AMD-Open-Source-Guy-quot |
| 12:07.40 | weeb1e | squeeze-custom-amd64-0315.iso ? |
| 12:07.51 | nsadmin | kmuto reports success on 2.6.39 |
| 12:07.53 | p8m | Chousuke: Not that it helps your immediate annoyance |
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| 12:08.43 | Chousuke | well, right now this binary blob driver is working. though for some reason it refuses to drive my external display at full resolution |
| 12:08.44 | p8m | Chousuke: Have you tried forcing the gpu into the "low" powerstate? |
| 12:09.00 | Chousuke | yeah, didn't seem to help |
| 12:09.39 | weeb1e | nsadmin: So I should use the 2.6.39 custom image or the latest? |
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| 12:09.54 | weeb1e | Looking for a stable solution which will install out of the box |
| 12:10.06 | nsadmin | weeb1e, I'd say try the latest kmuto netinstall |
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| 12:10.19 | weeb1e | so squeeze-custom-amd64-0315.iso then |
| 12:10.28 | nsadmin | latest for squeeze (squeeze is what you want, right?) |
| 12:10.28 | weeb1e | I'll get him to burn it now |
| 12:10.32 | weeb1e | Yeah |
| 12:10.36 | nsadmin | ok |
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| 12:11.23 | nsadmin | an alternative woudl have been to hook a small drive to the sata controller |
| 12:11.35 | nsadmin | and install non-raid to that |
| 12:12.06 | weeb1e | lets hope this works |
| 12:12.12 | Chousuke | p8m: I just hope that the upcoming improvements will apply to my older card as well :P |
| 12:12.32 | Chousuke | I think it's of the HD3000 series |
| 12:12.38 | weeb1e | about my previous question nsadmin, do you think the latest ubuntu server would support this controller out of the box, if this ends up failing? |
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| 12:13.20 | nsadmin | dunno |
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| 12:14.10 | weeb1e | ok thanks for your help nsadmin and themill, i'll let you know what happens with this image |
| 12:14.23 | boudiccas | weeblesorry, we only know Debian, for ubuntu questions you'd have to ask in #ubuntu |
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| 12:15.50 | weeb1e | boudiccas: Yeah no problem, it is a last resort as far as I'm concerned |
| 12:16.45 | themill | weeb1e: there's no reason to suspect that the installer with a newer kernel would fail |
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| 12:17.19 | weeb1e | themill: yeah, thanks |
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| 12:18.25 | nsadmin | weeb1e, the info about the kernel is probably definitive for any dist... while kmuto reported success with .39, there's no evicence of lack of support before that... but, that should apply to any 2.6.39 that also has the driver available |
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| 12:21.24 | weeb1e | nsadmin: great, the techie is downloading and burning the disk, then will be taking the server to the data center and install it there |
| 12:21.42 | weeb1e | lets hope all goes smoothly |
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| 12:22.01 | nsadmin | you might want to at least do the acceptance test of booting the installer and seeing if it sees the raid |
| 12:22.14 | nsadmin | before you drive it to the data ctr |
| 12:22.52 | nsadmin | for example that was my idea when we were trying to find out the exact model and linux driver name for the raid controller |
| 12:23.13 | weeb1e | well it needs to get there anyway, if there are issues, they can be dealt with there |
| 12:23.43 | nsadmin | so at minimum, you could download other isos and burn them? (bring a coupla blanks) |
| 12:23.44 | weeb1e | my sponsor has many other servers at the data center, which have cd burners and fast internet if anything else is needed |
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| 12:24.21 | weeb1e | but the techie needs to make a detour, so he'll only get to the data center in 2+ hours |
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| 12:24.50 | wialo | is live-magic no more available for wheezy? |
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| 12:26.07 | wialo | 'apt-get install live-magic' gives me "E: Unable to locate package live-magic" |
| 12:26.25 | themill | it's only in lenny and squeeze |
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| 12:26.54 | themill | ,bug rm live-magic |
| 12:26.57 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/666991 in ftp.debian.org (done): «RM: live-magic -- RoM»; severity: normal; opened: 2012-04-03; last modified: 2012-05-04. |
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| 12:32.17 | Innocentus | hi |
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| 12:32.26 | Innocentus | I can monitor traffic of a router with smnp |
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| 12:32.49 | Innocentus | but can I also monitor the individual client / ips / mac addresses which are connected by router to internet? |
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| 12:35.18 | Sevet_ | check its arp table |
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| 12:47.29 | dawud | ,v systemd |
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| 12:47.30 | judd | Package: systemd on i386 -- sid: 44-4; wheezy: 44-4 |
| 12:47.41 | Eagleman | What does this mean? |
| 12:47.42 | Eagleman | <5>RPC: multiple fragments per record not supported |
| 12:47.42 | Eagleman | <5>rpc-srv/tcp: nfsd: got error -104 when sending 140 bytes - shutting down socket |
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| 12:51.11 | wialo | themill: thks. |
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| 12:57.28 | cetra | herro |
| 12:57.40 | cetra | i'm just upgrading from testing to sid |
| 12:58.28 | cetra | i'd like to know how to properly post bugs in debian's bugtracking system |
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| 12:59.21 | nsadmin | cetra, reportbug is worth looking into |
| 12:59.49 | nsadmin | are you looking for how to post bugs, or how to write reports? |
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| 13:00.11 | cetra | and what's the difference? |
| 13:00.34 | daemonkeeper | None if you know what you're doing. |
| 13:00.41 | cetra | i tried reportbug once but i had no idea how to make it work with my gmail account |
| 13:00.57 | daemonkeeper | You don't need to. reportbug can talk to Debian mailservers directly. |
| 13:01.04 | cetra | ic |
| 13:01.46 | boudiccas | cetra, run 'reportbug -u gtk2' and you'll get a nice GUI for reprtbug which will walk you through sending a bugreport |
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| 13:02.30 | cetra | so, btw, any known issues on upgrading testing → sid? |
| 13:02.43 | cetra | boudiccas: ok. |
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| 13:03.20 | daemonkeeper | cetra: Testing to Sid should be a minor problem. |
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| 13:03.35 | cetra | well. |
| 13:04.05 | Sevet_ | cetra: your main probems are pretty much going to be simply from being on sid |
| 13:04.05 | Sevet_ | (frequent updates/breakages) |
| 13:04.05 | cetra | hehe |
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| 13:04.24 | Chousuke | I haven't found sid to break very often. |
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| 13:04.39 | Chousuke | it's just annoying to keep installing a couple hundred megabytes of updates every week :P |
| 13:04.49 | jeeger | Greetings! I'm trying to set up an ipv4-in-ipv6 tunnel, and the iproute command I use looks like this: sudo ip -6 tun add tun3 mode ipip6 local <addr> remote <addr>. However, I get the error "ioctl: no such device". This is a virtuozzo system. Might that be the cause of the error? Or am I missing anything else? |
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| 13:05.01 | Chousuke | (especially if you have tex documentation packages installed. :P) |
| 13:05.02 | cetra | bu it iseems that i wont be uble to upgrade the system for several weeks so that's ok and i need some sid packages |
| 13:05.21 | Chousuke | I love how I have to download a 200 MB update package just to get what is probably a 100kB change |
| 13:05.28 | daemonkeeper | Chousuke: "Oh, $random_tex_lib changed two bytes, need to get 500 MB updates"? |
| 13:05.38 | Chousuke | exactly. |
| 13:06.16 | Sevet_ | jeeger: probably tun3 hasn't been created |
| 13:06.27 | Sevet_ | jeeger: /etc/network/interfaces would be the correct way to create it |
| 13:06.40 | Chousuke | but I suppose delta upgrades aren't that easy given how dpkg works :/ |
| 13:06.41 | Sevet_ | (with the tunnel info) |
| 13:06.45 | r3m | Hi, I have 2 iceweasel update available. But when i type sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade, there is no package updated, it show no error message, here is the output http://pastebin.com/KX2m1jfy |
| 13:07.07 | jeeger | Sevet_: Doesn't the ip command create the device? At least on my gentoo laptop, it did. |
| 13:07.52 | boudiccas | r3m, so try using apt-get, that sometimes works when aptitude fails |
| 13:08.15 | Sevet_ | Chousuke: there are projects aimed at making it possible, they're just not in use on official repos (at least not yet) |
| 13:08.15 | Chousuke | r3m: are those iceweasel packages from experimental? |
| 13:08.22 | Sevet_ | Chousuke: it'd need the repo to generate them |
| 13:08.38 | Chousuke | yeah |
| 13:09.01 | Sevet_ | jeeger: haven't tried, but there's tunctl |
| 13:09.06 | r3m | Chousuke: this is iceweasel yes, but from mozilla.debian.net |
| 13:09.19 | Sevet_ | but if you want to bring it up on every boot, configure it in interfaces |
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| 13:09.40 | Chousuke | r3m: if it's marked as belonging to the "experimental" distribution I don't think apt will autoupgrade it. |
| 13:10.06 | Chousuke | r3m: did you try doing aptitude install iceweasel/experimental ? |
| 13:11.23 | jeeger | Sevet_: I don't have it. Also, I don't think tunctl will solve my problem, since this isn't a tun device, but an ipv6 tunnel, which is something else (I think). The more probable solution unfortunately is that the ip6_tunnel module isn't loaded, which I can't do on this shitty vps.... |
| 13:11.37 | Chousuke | btw, it seems my second monitor was preventing dynpm from working |
| 13:11.40 | r3m | Chousuke: thanks working ! |
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| 13:12.02 | Sevet_ | jeeger: it's a tun device for routing into the tunnel |
| 13:12.05 | Sevet_ | hence tun3 |
| 13:12.09 | Chousuke | but even without the second monitor plugged in, it doesn't seem running at half clock speed cools down the gpu enough to reduce noise :/ |
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| 13:12.27 | Sevet_ | but yea you probably need the necessary kernel modules too |
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| 13:16.18 | lancelot_of | hi. from whose parameters does the cpu temp shown in conky depend?i notice that using new 3.x kernels make my intel i5 2520M 4 cores stay at more than 10°C higher, in the mean, than old 2.6.3x kernels....i see in powertop that C7-SNB state of all four cores stays at 98% even if there's an overall cpu load of 0-1%.Please help |
| 13:16.45 | freebiiie | what is the file i have to delete if i want the eth interface to work on another box? |
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| 13:18.57 | jelly | lancelot_of: again, ask in the linux-pm mailing list |
| 13:19.30 | jelly | lancelot_of: these kind of issues are hardware and firmware version and kernel version specific |
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| 13:21.36 | lancelot_of | jelly, i asked you linux-pm in which channel...there's noone in freenode so maybe i'm missing the right channel,it's strange |
| 13:22.33 | lancelot_of | jelly, on which server, sorry |
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| 13:23.12 | jelly | not on irc, "mailing list" is a... oh you're gone |
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| 13:23.19 | jelly | or not |
| 13:23.24 | lancelot_of | jelly back again |
| 13:23.28 | lancelot_of | sorry |
| 13:23.44 | jelly | lancelot_of: http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-pm |
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| 13:31.18 | boudiccas | where are file paths stored in wheezy please under xfce with gnome3 installed? i have deletedsome folders via nautilus, thunar, and commandline, but on reboot they reappear, so i want to delete them from wherever they're being configured from |
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| 13:31.59 | Guest45969 | Hello. I just installed debian and the installation seemed to be ok. Once I reboot i get grub rescue, what commands can I give it to boot debian and reinstall grub? |
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| 13:32.45 | ksk | Guest58539: you proabably want to boot from a live-cd to see whats wrong |
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| 13:33.01 | david89 | ksk: I have the debian netinstall, can I use that? |
| 13:33.01 | ksk | in general something like "grub-install --recheck /dev/sdX" should solve this issue |
| 13:33.12 | themill | boudiccas: sounds like one of the xdg packages -- xdg-user-dirs perhaps? |
| 13:33.19 | ksk | no you cannot. its the quite opposite of a live-cd ;) |
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| 13:33.47 | david89 | ksk: from the grub-rescue can I atleast start debian? |
| 13:34.00 | boudiccas | themill, no, its music i've downloaded off the web into my ~/Downloads folder which keeps reappearing |
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| 13:35.47 | boudiccas | themill, hers one of them .. /home/boztu/Downloads/Abba - The Visitors Deluxe Edition (2012) |
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| 13:39.08 | jelly | ABBA are V... that explains everything |
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| 13:39.43 | themill | boudiccas: do you have a saved session in your browser that thinks that downloading the file again is a good idea? |
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| 13:41.53 | boudiccas | themill, no |
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| 13:42.30 | gury | how do I change the icon of xterm in the taskbar ? |
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| 13:43.41 | somiaj | gury: that depends on what desktop/wm you are using. |
| 13:43.51 | somiaj | gury: for gnome, I'd ask the gnome peoples. |
| 13:44.12 | gury | somiaj: I am using plain openbox |
| 13:44.13 | somiaj | #gnome I would imangine |
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| 13:44.45 | somiaj | then #openbox may have good anwsers. |
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| 13:45.10 | gury | somiaj: Cannot join to channel #openbox (You must be invited) |
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| 13:45.46 | somiaj | could try ##openbox then |
| 13:45.57 | Armand | jumps boudiccas! |
| 13:46.03 | mjessome | `mount` shows me tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,size=1621504k) , but there is no tmpfs on /tmp declared in my fstab, and I've never configured one. fstab.d is empty as well. Where might I be able to configure this? thanks |
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| 13:46.36 | somiaj | gury: or google, but yea icons are set via the taskbar tool in your WM. How to set it depends on the software. |
| 13:47.00 | gury | somiaj: I already googled it but got no useful results |
| 13:47.07 | somiaj | mjessome: it is a default setup, look in /etc/default/ I belive it is rcS that configures that. |
| 13:47.53 | somiaj | there is an /etc/default/tmpfs here, but since I run sid sometimes I have old files sitting around. |
| 13:48.55 | mjessome | perfect, thanks somiaj |
| 13:49.04 | mjessome | yeah, it says /etc/default/tmpfs is deprecated in mine |
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| 13:49.29 | somiaj | yea I think that is done in rcS now |
| 13:49.55 | somiaj | yea I have a dist copy of rcS with tmpfs info about /tmp, but my /tmp isn't on tmpfs here |
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| 13:50.32 | somiaj | gury: looks like openbox users are suggsted some different panels. do you know what panel/taskbar you are actually using? |
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| 13:52.01 | gury | somiaj: of course, I needed to configure it. It's tint2 |
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| 13:53.38 | somiaj | gury: http://bbs.archbang.org/viewtopic.php?id=90 -- what i found on google, seems you have to change your icontheme |
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| 14:02.17 | gury | somiaj: thanks |
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| 14:21.05 | plug918 | hi, anyone can tell me how to open a port (ex: 999) on the command line? |
| 14:21.37 | jelly | plug918: it's open by default, can you explain your issue in more detail? |
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| 14:22.28 | Technologov | Hi, when is beta3 expected? |
| 14:22.39 | plug918 | jelly: i have an application is require port 3131 to be open, but the port is closed |
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| 14:22.41 | jelly | plug918: which debian release do you have installed, and which firewall solution? |
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| 14:23.12 | plug918 | jelly: i have iptables installed |
| 14:23.21 | somiaj | debian by default dosen't have a firewall. If you haven't installed one it could be your router closing the ports. |
| 14:23.51 | plug918 | somiaj: i have iptables install |
| 14:24.08 | jelly | plug918: good for you. How do you configure iptables? |
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| 14:24.21 | somiaj | sure but that still dosn't put up a firewall. that is only a tool to create one. So use iptables to list your current set of firewall rules. |
| 14:24.47 | plug918 | jelly: i am not sure how it is configure…. i think by default it has port 80 , 22 open |
| 14:25.28 | jelly | plug918: you can add rules with iptables CLI, but you _will_ need to find out which configuration tool is used to set up permanent changes |
| 14:25.57 | Technologov | Any ideas when wheezy beta3 available? |
| 14:26.40 | jelly | dpkg, tell Technologov about repeat |
| 14:26.48 | plug918 | jelly: can you throw a little more detail, i am not familiar with firewall set up using iptables |
| 14:26.59 | boudiccas | is there a GUI for iptables? if so, it could make it easier to write the rules |
| 14:27.13 | abrotman | there are many |
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| 14:27.18 | abrotman | it's still better to learn the raw rules |
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| 14:27.44 | jelly | plug918: there's a number of tools that generate and manage iptables rules. Ask your admin which one is installed |
| 14:27.47 | abrotman | Technologov: beta3 of what? |
| 14:28.07 | somiaj | Technologov: when it's ready. /msg dpkg rc bugs -- debian release things based off of squashing all serious bugs. as they get fixed wheezy gets updated. |
| 14:28.08 | Technologov | Of wheezy installer DVD |
| 14:28.09 | boudiccas | abrotman, Technologov said wheezy |
| 14:28.27 | plug918 | jelly: this is my own sandbox, and i can do whatever i have to do |
| 14:28.28 | abrotman | boudiccas: there is no beta of wheezy, there's a beta of the installer |
| 14:28.33 | jelly | !wheezy beta |
| 14:28.34 | dpkg | There is no "beta" release (nor will there be) of Wheezy. What has been released is a beta (testing version) of the wheezy _installer_. This installer is probably the best thing to use to install wheezy at the moment, but installing squeeze and dist-upgrading may be more successful. See http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2012/20120909 |
| 14:28.37 | abrotman | Technologov: what's worng with beta2 / |
| 14:28.39 | abrotman | ? |
| 14:28.41 | jelly | abrotman: yay factoids! |
| 14:28.43 | plug918 | jelly: so how do i find out which tool is used? |
| 14:29.06 | jelly | plug918: dunno, look at the list of installed packages, for a start |
| 14:29.07 | abrotman | jelly: i can work without a bot! |
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| 14:29.29 | jelly | plug918: dpkg -l | grep '^.i' |
| 14:30.20 | plug918 | jelly: that list a lot of entries, does not help much |
| 14:31.14 | themill | The original plan for wheezy d-i b3 was last weekend; presumably RSN then. |
| 14:31.17 | plug918 | jelly: i found this post on line, do you think the steps are valid? http://www.serverschool.com/dedicated-servers/how-to-close-and-open-ports-with-iptables/ |
| 14:32.02 | jelly | plug918: not valid for Debian, it has no /etc/init.d/iptables script any more |
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| 14:32.17 | plug918 | jelly: hum.. |
| 14:32.19 | somiaj | plug918: again why are the ports closed in the first place. This is not default so figure out which tool has been used to configure your firewall. |
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| 14:32.40 | abrotman | is he even using Debian ? |
| 14:32.57 | jelly | plug918: I reiterate. You can (and should!) learn how to use iptables manually, this is good to know. But to save the changes, you need to figure out which firewall script sets them up in the first place. |
| 14:33.05 | somiaj | sure you can use iptables to see the rules and if you have a closed port open it. But if you don't know which tool is putting up this firewall in the first place, itmay just put it back/conflict with what you are doing. |
| 14:33.08 | jelly | plug918: which Debian release are you using? |
| 14:33.22 | abrotman | or linux version |
| 14:33.23 | jelly | !debian suite |
| 14:33.23 | dpkg | cat /etc/debian_version (or lsb_release -sc). Or check /etc/apt/sources.list. If unsure about the distribution, $ cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} should grab almost all distributions. |
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| 14:34.34 | plug918 | jelly: i am no GNU debian 6.0 |
| 14:34.38 | dawud | ,v xbmc |
| 14:34.39 | judd | Package: xbmc on i386 -- squeeze-multimedia: 10.0-0.5+1; sid: 2:11.0~git20120510.82388d5-1; wheezy: 2:11.0~git20120510.82388d5-1; wheezy-multimedia: 3:11.0+git201208-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 3:12.0~git201209-dmo1 |
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| 14:35.16 | somiaj | dawud: you can /msg judd v xbmc if you just need that info for yourself |
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| 14:35.32 | dawud | somiaj: sorry |
| 14:35.39 | plug918 | :somiaj how do i find out which tool put up the firewall? |
| 14:35.51 | jelly | plug918: pastebin the output of "dpkg -l libc6 dpkg base-files" and "ls -la /etc/init.d/" and "cat /etc/network/interfaces" and "find /etc/network -ls" |
| 14:36.26 | ska | I used the expert installer, and apparently, I |
| 14:36.30 | somiaj | plug918: did you install this system? If so what tool did you install? Did someone else install it? Ask them. or follow jelly's advise and look though dpkg -l and see which of your installed packages is a firewall. |
| 14:36.31 | jelly | plug918: you'd have to find which package or tool sets it up, which means you need some basic knowledge of unix to search and find files and search in their contents |
| 14:36.47 | ska | am not an expert :) I was missing several apt archives and such. Got it fixed though. |
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| 14:37.00 | somiaj | ska: what archives were you missing? |
| 14:37.13 | ska | I think I only had updates.. |
| 14:37.25 | ska | I couldn't even install xterm |
| 14:37.32 | jelly | plug918: is this a physical machine or a virtual one? How did you install Debian? |
| 14:37.44 | ska | somiaj: I just missed some step in the installer process. |
| 14:37.47 | plug918 | jelly: it is a physical machine |
| 14:37.58 | ska | somiaj: it was late.. |
| 14:37.59 | somiaj | ska: this is the squeeze installer? |
| 14:38.00 | plug918 | somiaj: i installed it myself |
| 14:38.17 | somiaj | plug918: then what firewall did you install? iptables is not a firewall, but a tool to configure one. |
| 14:38.28 | jelly | plug918: oh, pastebin the output of "iptables-save" as well |
| 14:38.30 | somiaj | as in installing iptables does not put a default firewall on your system. |
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| 14:38.58 | jelly | !paste |
| 14:38.58 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 14:40.29 | jelly | plug918: if the output of "iptables-save" run as root is empty, you don't have a local firewall set up, and you need to look for the cause elsewhere |
| 14:40.39 | ska | somiaj: yea.. |
| 14:41.01 | ska | somiaj: its nothing wrong with the installer. I was really trying to play with the partitioner, use GUID partitions and such. |
| 14:41.03 | plug918 | see this: http://pastebin.com/rDcYxkw1 |
| 14:41.12 | plug918 | jelly: see this http://pastebin.com/rDcYxkw1 |
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| 14:42.13 | ksk | hey |
| 14:42.18 | somiaj | ska: yea I was mostly just seeing what you thought was missing. non-free, contrib are left off by default, though yes it usually sets up a default mirror for you. (: |
| 14:42.38 | ksk | is there an ffmpeg with mp3-support somewhere in the repos, maybe non-free? |
| 14:42.46 | jelly | plug918: you seem to have shorewall installed |
| 14:43.07 | plug918 | jelly: yeah? not sure what is it |
| 14:43.24 | somiaj | ksk: have you looked at debian-multimedia |
| 14:43.25 | plug918 | but if that prevent me open the port, can i unistall it? |
| 14:43.29 | jelly | plug918: look for it in dpkg -l output, or run dpkg -l shorewall |
| 14:43.41 | jelly | plug918: why did you install it in the first place? |
| 14:43.52 | somiaj | ksk: guess it is deb-multimedia now |
| 14:44.13 | plug918 | jelly: i am not really sure…. |
| 14:44.32 | plug918 | jelly: as i said i use this machine as a playground |
| 14:44.58 | jelly | plug918: well then, try reading what the software you install does |
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| 14:44.59 | plug918 | jelly: i dont record i have that pkg install |
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| 14:45.25 | ksk | somiaj: thx |
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| 14:47.07 | somiaj | ksk: if you find those packages include the mp3 support you want, you may want to /msg dpkg deb-multimedia (note they are unoffical but they might be the best you can do cause of the mp3 issues) |
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| 14:49.06 | plug918 | jelly: do you think unstall that pdg can solve the issue? |
| 14:50.08 | jelly | plug918: at this point I'd prefer if you read what that package was about, and think for yourself |
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| 14:52.36 | jelly | you have enough information to draw your own conclusion, and I really don't like feeding people ready-made answers without them learning anything in the process |
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| 14:53.45 | jelly | plug918: dpkg -l shorewall ought to say it's a "ii shorewall 4.4.11.6-3+squeeze1 Shoreline Firewall, netfilter configurator" or similar |
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| 14:54.35 | jelly | plug918: that means it's a local firewall configurator. On linux, that means it sets up and manages firewall rules via iptables. |
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| 14:55.00 | jelly | try playing with it |
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| 14:55.39 | jelly | remove it, see what happens, install it back, see what happens, try learn how to configure it, see what happens |
| 14:55.45 | ska | somiaj: The expert installer was very nice. Setup all my GPT partitions and md raid perfectly. |
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| 15:16.23 | nsadmin | , depends postgresql-9.2 |
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| 15:52.05 | bluesm | What is the thing with JAVA. |
| 15:52.13 | bluesm | What is proprietary, what is not ? |
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| 15:54.01 | babilen | !tell bluesm -about openjdk |
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| 15:54.42 | babilen | bluesm: You might also want to ask in ##java or #openjdk, but reading up on OpenJDK should get you started. |
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| 16:10.12 | e20100633 | heya |
| 16:10.14 | Rix | how do I change main repo from dvd to network |
| 16:10.31 | Rix | in consolse |
| 16:10.33 | Rix | console* |
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| 16:11.43 | babilen | !tell Rix -about make squeeze sources.list |
| 16:11.47 | Rix | ty |
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| 16:13.39 | Rix | deb command not found? |
| 16:14.26 | jhutchins | Rix: edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file (as root). |
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| 16:14.49 | Rix | oh.. thanks :) |
| 16:14.50 | babilen | Rix: Ok, I guess a little more explanation might be good. The repositories you have access to are configured in /etc/apt/sources.list and it would look more or less like http://paste.debian.net/199536/ if you enable anything |
| 16:15.02 | Rix | i understand now thanks :) |
| 16:15.04 | babilen | s/anything/everyhting |
| 16:15.21 | Rix | should i delete deb:cdrom line? |
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| 16:15.53 | babilen | Rix: yeah, you can remove that so the file looks exactly like the one I pasted |
| 16:16.19 | Rix | ok thanks a lot :) |
| 16:16.38 | nsadmin | if youy don't want to access from cdrom |
| 16:16.40 | kendosan | whos in making debian theme http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/7624/desktopthumb.jpg ? |
| 16:16.59 | Rix | then i guess apt-get update |
| 16:17.05 | Rix | after editing source.list |
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| 16:18.28 | nsadmin | yes |
| 16:18.41 | damacus | kendosan: microsoft hired up a bunch of ubuntu talent |
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| 16:19.08 | damacus | (at least I assume, it's the only way it makes sense :P) |
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| 16:34.48 | izepstan | hi, hello there, how do i change a environment variable? if i type ruby, bash says: /usr/bin/ruby: no such... cause it's located under /usr/local/bin/..., how can i change that? |
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| 16:35.25 | Sevet_ | export VAR=VAL ; echo $VAR |
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| 16:35.38 | Sevet_ | eg 'export PATH=/usr/local/bin:$PATH' |
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| 16:36.04 | Sevet_ | to keep it permanent, look at your .profile .bashrc files in your home area |
| 16:36.41 | oskie | AFAIK, /usr/local/bin is in $PATH for regular users already in Debian |
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| 16:36.55 | izepstan | wasn't |
| 16:36.57 | Sevet_ | oskie: looks like you're right |
| 16:36.59 | Sevet_ | hmm |
| 16:37.00 | izepstan | but now it works |
| 16:37.01 | izepstan | thanks |
| 16:37.06 | Sevet_ | although it seems odd that it's giving you the full path /usr/bin/ruby |
| 16:37.14 | Sevet_ | is there a dangling symlink there perhaps? |
| 16:37.27 | oskie | yeah, probably something else is wrong :) |
| 16:37.51 | Sevet_ | or an absolute path in a shebang line perhaps? |
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| 16:38.38 | oskie | Sevet_: exactly! error messages caused by that always somewhat confusing |
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| 16:40.05 | oskie | there used to be a lot of noise on #debian, nowadays it's pretty quiet in here |
| 16:40.52 | ratcheer | oskie: Try Siduction. They never talk. |
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| 16:42.20 | prest1ge | hello together. can someone help me with building a deb-package? |
| 16:42.37 | prest1ge | currently im trying to create my own deb-package with my app inside |
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| 16:43.04 | prest1ge | i understand how to create it i think but my problem is ...it cant removed after install. why? |
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| 16:45.34 | Hydroxide | prest1ge: great of you to start working on that effort! IRC help with new debian packager questions belong in #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org aka irc.oftc.net (not freenode). this channel focuses on support for using debian |
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| 16:46.47 | Hydroxide | prest1ge: they especially focus on packages that are meant for inclusion in Debian, but even if that's not the case, someone there will probably be happy to help |
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| 16:46.51 | Hydroxide | I just joined there myself :) |
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| 16:47.54 | prest1ge | better i join #debian-mentors / freenode? |
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| 16:48.49 | dysoco | Hello, I need help: I installed Debian Testing Netinstall, with the base system selected, and installed the Bootloader to /dev/sda as usual: but when I reboot all I see is a grub-rescue prompt... can anyone help me ? I have a windows partition at /dev/sda1 , Swap in /dev/sda2 and the / ext4 partition where Debian is installed in /dev/sda3 ... I'm in a LiveCD atm and mounted /dev/sda3 but I'm not sure what GRUB file should I edit, ca |
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| 16:49.10 | Sevet_ | #debian-mentors doesn't really exist on freenode, there's 2 users there, there'll be hundreds on oftc |
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| 16:50.12 | prest1ge | ahh yes i saw now ...but what means oftc? |
| 16:50.27 | dysoco | prest1ge: irc.oftc.net IRC network |
| 16:50.34 | ratcheer | 217 on oftc, now |
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| 16:51.02 | prest1ge | i not have this server in xChat :( |
| 16:51.09 | dysoco | add it then |
| 16:51.11 | dysoco | it's easy |
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| 16:51.24 | dysoco | or either open a new tab and type "/connect irc.oftc.net" |
| 16:51.26 | Sevet_ | !tell prest1ge about oftc |
| 16:51.29 | prest1ge | i tried sometimes but i did not get it how to do that :( |
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| 16:52.38 | prest1ge | ./connect dont works :( |
| 16:53.01 | Sevet_ | /connect is a command within your irc client |
| 16:53.15 | Sevet_ | it'll probably disconnect you from freenode btw before connecting to oftc |
| 16:53.22 | babilen | prest1ge: Which IRC client do you use? |
| 16:53.27 | prest1ge | xChat |
| 16:53.42 | prest1ge | 0.3.0 |
| 16:54.13 | babilen | !otherchannel irc.oftc.net #debian-mentors prest1ge |
| 16:54.13 | dpkg | irc.oftc.net: The channel you are looking for is #debian-mentors on prest1ge. Please do /server prest1ge and then /join #debian-mentors. If your client supports it, you can also right-click the following link and choose connect: irc://prest1ge/#debian-mentors |
| 16:54.18 | babilen | no |
| 16:54.21 | babilen | :( |
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| 16:54.36 | babilen | !otherchannel prest1ge #debian-mentors irc.oftc.net |
| 16:54.36 | dpkg | prest1ge: The channel you are looking for is #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net. Please do /server irc.oftc.net and then /join #debian-mentors. If your client supports it, you can also right-click the following link and choose connect: irc://irc.oftc.net/#debian-mentors |
| 16:54.43 | babilen | prest1ge: Try that ^^^ |
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| 16:55.02 | babilen | !tell prest1ge -about irc tutorial |
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| 16:56.19 | prest1ge | babilen: thank you very much it was working ;) |
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| 16:57.12 | dysoco | anyone help me with my problem ? I can't boot either Windows nor Debian and I need to get things done :S |
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| 16:57.58 | Guest32544 | Hi. How can i solve the "Unknown input format: 'x11grab'" error with ffmpeg on debian squeeze? |
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| 16:58.53 | Sevet_ | dysoco: did you try the 'Reinstall GRUB boot loader' option on the rescue cd? |
| 16:59.05 | babilen | !tell dysoco -about fixmbr |
| 16:59.15 | dysoco | Sevet_: Rescue CD ? Wich one ? The Debian one ? |
| 16:59.20 | dysoco | or is there a special one ? |
| 16:59.39 | dysoco | ah thanks babilen |
| 16:59.50 | babilen | dysoco: As soon as you can boot into Debian install os-prober and re-run update-grub. That time around it should find your Windows installation and configure boot entries for it. |
| 17:00.17 | Sevet_ | the rescue mode of the install disc |
| 17:00.22 | babilen | dysoco: You can really use any live cd and something like Debian live (rescue) or GRML might be more comfortable, but the recipe has been written for the installer. |
| 17:00.22 | dysoco | yes, I have messed the config file and added Windows before, but this time I installed it wrong and can't get GRUB to boot |
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| 17:00.44 | dysoco | babilen: allright, I'll try.. wait a minute |
| 17:00.45 | babilen | dysoco: You shouldn't edit those files manually *at all* fwiw :) |
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| 17:01.24 | babilen | dysoco: Apart from /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/*custom that is |
| 17:02.09 | dysoco | not sure wich one I edited |
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| 17:02.38 | dysoco | when it says: "grub-install /dev/whatever" |
| 17:02.50 | dysoco | do I use /dev/sda for master record or /dev/sda3 for my / partition ? |
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| 17:03.30 | dysoco | well, I'm going to assume /dev/sda |
| 17:03.46 | frostschutz | dysoco: grub does not need to know your root partition. it only cares about your /boot :) the root part is something for the kernel to worry about |
| 17:04.13 | dysoco | well, going to restart to see if it installed correctly |
| 17:04.14 | dysoco | brb |
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| 17:11.55 | _nat | How can i know if x11grab is installed? |
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| 17:12.48 | dysoco|mob | OK ithe GRUB worked |
| 17:12.51 | dysoco|mob | But |
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| 17:13.21 | dysoco|mob | Now it is stucked booting at "waiting for /dev to be fully populated" |
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| 17:14.58 | dysoco|mob | Do I keep waiting or reboot ? |
| 17:15.10 | dysoco|mob | Already waited for five or ten minutes |
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| 17:16.11 | frostschutz | it certainly doesn't take that long for /dev to become fully populated |
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| 17:16.31 | dysoco|mob | Might be a bug, I will try rebooting again |
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| 17:17.52 | dysoco|mob | Removed the quiet option |
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| 17:18.06 | dysoco|mob | Now I can see where its stucked |
| 17:19.22 | dysoco|mob | iTCO_vendor_support: vendor-support=0 |
| 17:19.28 | dysoco|mob | Last line I see |
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| 17:21.02 | dysoco|mob | Trying with acpi off |
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| 17:22.17 | dysoco|mob | Worked |
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| 17:22.44 | dysoco|mob | Ugh Gnome3 :S |
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| 17:26.27 | bluesm | Hi. |
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| 17:27.25 | bluesm | I have little problem with sound, I can't play anything if I have Wine open (program started with wine) |
| 17:28.16 | bluesm | And This works also in other direction : If I start play something on real machine (debian) then I don't have sound in program run by wine. |
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| 17:28.31 | Iridos | it probably blocks the sound device... I'm amazed though, that this problem is still around... I only know it from about 10 years back |
| 17:28.36 | Iridos | if so, it's this: |
| 17:28.45 | Iridos | dpkg, dmix |
| 17:28.45 | dpkg | dmix is an <ALSA> subsystem allowing an audio device to play multiple sound streams simultaneously, without the need for an external sound server. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/Dmix for more information. A sample asound.conf is at http://img.hexus.net/v2/features/foss/a3/images/asound.conf |
| 17:29.02 | Iridos | or I should say, this is the solution... hopefully |
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| 17:30.21 | bluesm | Iridos: So should I simply "apt-get" it ? |
| 17:30.49 | Iridos | huh? where in that factoid does it say anything about installing something via apt-get? |
| 17:31.59 | dreamer | hmmm, nasty issue. just did a d-u from squeeze to wheezy. now grub-install doesn't have enough space. my system is running on a raid10 of 3 disks. and on each I get: /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Your core.img is unusually large. It won't fit in the embedding area.. << any ideas? :/ |
| 17:33.03 | bluesm | Iridos: So what should I do with this ? |
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| 17:34.33 | microtux | hi |
| 17:34.45 | microtux | i have a problem with openvpn |
| 17:34.53 | microtux | once the vpn is established, it keeps ok for about 2min, after that all connections through vpn hang, no response, no ping, no ssh, no web access |
| 17:35.03 | microtux | i have to restart the vpn to get things working, but after 2 more minutes, same issue |
| 17:35.12 | microtux | here are the client's logs : http://pastebin.com/GwEq8GaD |
| 17:35.23 | microtux | I'm running openvpn 2.2.1-3~bpo60+1 on Debian 6.0 |
| 17:35.28 | microtux | any help ? |
| 17:35.41 | Iridos | bluesm, well, read the stuff in the links? :) Download the .asoundrc and edit it to fit your system |
| 17:35.45 | joltcan | microtux: tried smaller MTU size? |
| 17:36.12 | microtux | tried with 1500 |
| 17:36.18 | Sevet_ | dreamer: how large is /boot/grub/core.img? |
| 17:36.27 | Iridos | I don't really like that solution much... sound shouldn't need a config file and the config file creates some rather rigid behavior... but well |
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| 17:36.45 | dreamer | Sevet_: 32017 bytes |
| 17:37.08 | Sevet_ | huh, that doesn't sound unusually large |
| 17:37.10 | Sevet_ | dreamer: and what sector does your 1st partition start at? |
| 17:37.29 | dreamer | no idea |
| 17:37.50 | Sevet_ | fdisk -cul /dev/sd* |
| 17:38.10 | dreamer | that doesn't work ;) |
| 17:38.28 | Sevet_ | replace * with ? |
| 17:38.44 | dreamer | scul doesn't work it seems |
| 17:38.52 | dreamer | -cul* |
| 17:39.26 | jhutchins | dreamer: Specify what "doesn't work" is supposed to mean please. |
| 17:39.28 | Sevet_ | it does on my system... |
| 17:39.30 | bluesm | Iridos: Ok. Thank you very much! |
| 17:39.42 | Sevet_ | btw is is raid10 software raid or hardware raid? |
| 17:39.42 | dreamer | jhutchins: I just get fdisk -h as output |
| 17:39.49 | dreamer | software |
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| 17:40.17 | jhutchins | dreamer: What about just fdisk -l? |
| 17:40.35 | jhutchins | dreamer: Getting the help response implies something wrong with your options. |
| 17:40.46 | dreamer | jhutchins: it's not 'my' options ;) |
| 17:40.56 | dreamer | -l works fine |
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| 17:40.58 | jhutchins | dreamer: With the options you used. |
| 17:41.05 | debiantoruser | Hello, could some body please help me set user session logging in openssh? I'm spent about a half day with google, there is only shell-wrapper ugly way. |
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| 17:41.28 | Sevet_ | dreamer: can you share the output in a pastebin? |
| 17:41.31 | dreamer | yes |
| 17:41.33 | Iridos | bluesm, does it work? |
| 17:41.35 | dreamer | for all my disks? |
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| 17:42.21 | bluesm | Iridos: I'm just started installing aoss, alsaplayer, mpg321 |
| 17:42.30 | microtux | i tried to rin the mtu-test, it returns |
| 17:42.32 | microtux | Fri Oct 12 18:41:46 2012 read from TUN/TAP : File descriptor in bad state (code=77) |
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| 17:42.54 | jcrowgey | hi debian room, i think i've got an easy question here |
| 17:43.01 | dreamer | Sevet_: http://pastebin.com/XVSBhiL2 |
| 17:43.16 | jcrowgey | on a fresh install, i want to add my user to the users that can sudo |
| 17:43.34 | jcrowgey | i see the line in the sudoers file which suggests that members of the sudoers group can do anything |
| 17:43.34 | dreamer | jhutchins: as root, type 'visudo' |
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| 17:43.46 | dreamer | or, edit the sudoers file |
| 17:43.47 | bluesm | Iridos: Should do reboot ? |
| 17:43.52 | jcrowgey | as root, i've done 'adduser jcrowgey sudo' |
| 17:44.03 | Iridos | microtux, that log doesn't look very useful to me... but perhaps I just didn't see the one useful line it has... also don't see anything useful in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?archive=both;package=openvpn |
| 17:44.06 | jcrowgey | as my user, when i do 'groups' i see 'sudo' in the list of groups |
| 17:44.19 | jcrowgey | but when i try to use sudo, i get 'not in the sudoers file'. |
| 17:44.38 | jcrowgey | is this expected? do i really need to add my name to the sudoers file, if so, what's the sudo group for? |
| 17:44.51 | jhutchins | dreamer: No, he needs to add users to the sudoers group. |
| 17:44.55 | Iridos | bluesm, no. maybe log out and back in, but I don't think even that... I'm not actually sure when .asoundrc is accessed |
| 17:45.06 | dreamer | jhutchins: yeah, I understand now |
| 17:45.13 | dreamer | Sevet_: I need to get some food. bbl |
| 17:45.16 | jcrowgey | jhutchins, is the group called 'sudoers' or 'sudo'? |
| 17:45.28 | jcrowgey | if it's 'sudoers' then that explains my issue. |
| 17:45.31 | jhutchins | jcrowgey: Add user to group, log user out & back in. |
| 17:45.43 | jcrowgey | jhutchins, that's already done |
| 17:45.44 | Sevet_ | dreamer: i'm thinking there's not quite enough space before the 1st partition |
| 17:45.55 | jhutchins | jcrowgey: Match what's in the sudoers file. |
| 17:46.04 | Sevet_ | dreamer: from the look of it repartitioning to start at sector 2048 would be rather a pain |
| 17:46.14 | jcrowgey | jhutchins, ok, i will double check |
| 17:46.19 | Sevet_ | dreamer: you could try tweaking the grub config to exclude unused modules |
| 17:46.22 | jhutchins | The "groups" command should show what grous you're in. |
| 17:47.10 | jcrowgey | yes, jhutchins, that is correct, i see when i run groups as my user that i am in group 'sudo' |
| 17:47.30 | jcrowgey | also, double checking sudoers file, the proper group is 'sudo' |
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| 17:48.00 | jcrowgey | it says '%sudo ALL=(ALL) ALL' |
| 17:49.01 | jcrowgey | aha, i just logged in on a VT and it's working, i guess i need to log out of X11 |
| 17:49.13 | jcrowgey | thanks friends! see you around |
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| 17:50.59 | damacus | sussussudio |
| 17:51.12 | jelly-home | !sing sussudio |
| 17:51.13 | dpkg | sings "Su, su, sudio...Su, su, sussudio" |
| 17:51.18 | damacus | lol |
| 17:51.19 | damacus | nice. |
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| 17:52.12 | Iridos | dpkg, factinfo sing sussudio |
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| 17:52.12 | dpkg | sing sussudio -- created by dondelelcaro <~don@archimedes.urmc.rochester.edu> at Fri Dec 13 03:15:29 2002 (3591 days); last modified at Tue Jan 7 06:48:13 2003 by Penix!~eggdrop@dialup-47.223.220.203.acc01-gord-pmq.comindico.com.au; it has been requested 138 times, last by jelly-home, 1m ago. |
| 17:52.18 | ElDiabolo | How do I exclude a disk from smard scanning? |
| 17:52.38 | Iridos | as you see, we prepared that 10 years in advance... all just for today. talk about good and early planning |
| 17:52.57 | jelly-home | Iridos: I like how you managed to highlight two extra people! |
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| 17:53.15 | chovy | how do i remove a script from starting at bootup? |
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| 17:53.23 | chovy | it is in /etc/init.d/nginx |
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| 17:53.30 | dreamer | Sevet_: huhm |
| 17:53.39 | chovy | i want to keep the script, but just remove it from starting automatically. |
| 17:53.42 | Iridos | jelly-home, not me! it was dpkg |
| 17:53.48 | jelly-home | twss |
| 17:54.43 | jhutchins | chovy: It's easiest to use a tool like rcconf to manage those, but you remove the links in /etc/rc?.d/ |
| 17:55.04 | jhutchins | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:55.18 | jhutchins | Interesting, / doesn't escape / in irssi. |
| 17:55.20 | chovy | jhutchins: i get an error |
| 17:55.24 | chovy | when i try |
| 17:55.28 | chovy | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:55.39 | chovy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:55.55 | jhutchins | chovy: Well, I use rcconf. |
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| 17:56.06 | chovy | jhutchins: http://pastie.org/5045721 |
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| 17:57.19 | jhutchins | chovy: Informational, not an actual error. Is this nginx from debian? |
| 17:57.20 | Sevet_ | does anyone know how to shrink the grub core.img? |
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| 17:57.46 | raptor67682 | how to convert a tex file to pdf |
| 17:57.47 | jhutchins | Sevet_: context? |
| 17:57.50 | raptor67682 | using latex ? |
| 17:57.58 | Sevet_ | looks like dreamer's wheezy core.img is a few bytes too large to fit in the 63 sectors before his first partition |
| 17:58.02 | chovy | jhutchins: yea |
| 17:58.11 | raptor67682 | when I do : $ latex /usr/shgare... sample.tex , ... then I have to Quit |
| 17:58.28 | chovy | but it's complaining about redis script |
| 17:58.34 | chovy | which has nothing to do with nginx |
| 17:58.35 | raptor67682 | latex sample.tex does not stops latex |
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| 17:58.49 | Sevet_ | jhutchins: 32017 byte core.img, 31744 bytes before 1st partition (62*512) |
| 17:58.54 | chovy | i do not see nginx anywhere in rc6.d |
| 17:59.03 | chovy | but magically it still starts on boot |
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| 17:59.21 | chovy | oh, it's in ./deafult |
| 17:59.29 | jhutchins | chovy: rc6 is reboot. check rc2 |
| 18:00.32 | chovy | its in ./default/ |
| 18:00.38 | chovy | how do i remove from default runlevel? |
| 18:00.51 | Sevet_ | chovy: use update-rc.d |
| 18:00.52 | chovy | there is no man entry for rcconf |
| 18:01.08 | jhutchins | Sevet_: My squeeze is 26k. |
| 18:01.43 | Sevet_ | mines 29604 bytes (squeeze)... his is wheezy |
| 18:01.46 | chovy | yeah, update-rc.d -f nginx remove doesn't remove it from /etc/default |
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| 18:02.22 | rozie | chovy: default runlevel has nothing to do with /etc/default |
| 18:02.43 | rozie | chovy: use rcconf to disable service |
| 18:03.00 | rozie | BTW man rcconf works just fine. probably you don't have manpages installed |
| 18:03.13 | chovy | rozie: i'm getting an error when i use it |
| 18:03.18 | chovy | it is complaing about redis |
| 18:03.20 | chovy | see pastie |
| 18:03.26 | chovy | http://pastie.org/5045721 |
| 18:03.36 | Sevet_ | chovy: /etc/default are config files for the init scripts |
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| 18:03.41 | chovy | ok |
| 18:03.44 | Sevet_ | chovy: nothing to do with runlevels |
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| 18:03.52 | chovy | then maybe it's removed, even though it errored |
| 18:04.13 | bluesm | Hi. |
| 18:04.40 | bluesm | It works with AlsaPlayer. But not with the say html5 player.... In chromium |
| 18:04.45 | r3m | damn, why cant I update iceweasel, there are 2 available update but sudo aptitude upgrade do not install them, im using the mozilla.debian.net repo |
| 18:04.53 | rozie | chovy: what version of Debian it is? |
| 18:05.00 | jhutchins | chovy: I don't know that rcconf is installed by default. |
| 18:05.04 | chovy | 6 |
| 18:05.21 | chovy | update-rc.d is on there |
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| 18:05.43 | boudiccas | r3m, what version of debian are you using? |
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| 18:05.50 | r3m | boudiccas: squeeze |
| 18:05.59 | rozie | that's strange. rcconf worked just fine on squeeze |
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| 18:06.33 | chovy | nginx keeps starting when i reboot |
| 18:06.42 | chovy | i don't see it in rc.* anywhere |
| 18:06.43 | jhutchins | ,versions rcconf |
| 18:06.44 | judd | Package: rcconf on i386 -- lenny: 1.21; sid: 2.5; squeeze: 2.5; wheezy: 2.5 |
| 18:07.00 | boudiccas | r3m, have you tried using apt-get on it? |
| 18:07.03 | jhutchins | chovy: Is it in /etc/rc.local? |
| 18:07.38 | chovy | i do't have an rc.local |
| 18:07.39 | jhutchins | It's too bad mdn doesn't have a way to show what versions it has available. |
| 18:07.53 | jhutchins | r3m: How do you know there are two updates? |
| 18:08.04 | r3m | jhutchins: i use apt-show-version |
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| 18:08.17 | r3m | boudiccas: |
| 18:08.20 | r3m | The following packages have been kept back: iceweasel iceweasel-l10n-fr |
| 18:08.29 | r3m | this is the message from apt-get |
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| 18:09.02 | chovy | ttp://pastie.org/5045861 |
| 18:09.03 | rozie | chovy: is redis installed from Debian repository? |
| 18:09.04 | chovy | hhttp://pastie.org/5045861 |
| 18:09.05 | jhutchins | chovy: is there an /etc/init.d/nginx? |
| 18:09.19 | chovy | jhutchins: yes, /etc/init.d/nginx is there |
| 18:09.31 | jhutchins | chovy: How about /etc/init.d/httpd? |
| 18:09.38 | rozie | Script redis_6379 is broken: incomplete LSB comment |
| 18:09.46 | rozie | this causes his problem |
| 18:09.49 | chovy | no http |
| 18:10.05 | chovy | rozie: no, i installed redis from source. |
| 18:10.13 | chovy | and then ran their install_script file |
| 18:10.21 | chovy | which was a broken crap. |
| 18:10.23 | rozie | and it has broken LSB |
| 18:10.23 | jhutchins | Ouch! |
| 18:10.41 | jhutchins | You can fix the lsb headers manually. |
| 18:10.41 | rozie | that's why rcconf does not work |
| 18:11.02 | jhutchins | rozie: It doesn't give any errors about nginx though, just redis. |
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| 18:11.22 | r3m | boudiccas: so i must dist-upgrade? |
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| 18:12.18 | chovy | jhutchins: how do i fix the lsb headers? |
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| 18:12.34 | boudiccas | r3m, i reckon you should just wait for debian to release the upgrades in the next couple of days |
| 18:12.34 | Sevet_ | chovy: text editor |
| 18:12.43 | chovy | what file? what do i change? |
| 18:12.48 | Sevet_ | chovy: they appear as special comments at the top of the init script |
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| 18:13.18 | r3m | boudiccas: boudiccas which upgrades, debian wheezy? |
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| 18:13.36 | boudiccas | r3m, no, iceweasel on squeeze |
| 18:14.14 | r3m | boudiccas: I use a special version from http://mozilla.debian.net |
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| 18:14.19 | chovy | Sevet_: it says DefaultStop is missing |
| 18:14.54 | boudiccas | r3m, well talk to them then, find out why they're held back |
| 18:15.12 | r3m | boudiccas: ok thanks |
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| 18:16.08 | dysoco | So I could install Debian, now I need to install the Nvidia drivers... what is the best way to install them ? |
| 18:16.37 | jordanm | !tell dysoco about nvidia |
| 18:16.49 | boudiccas | dusco/what/ nvidia drivers? |
| 18:17.09 | dysoco | I tried with aptitude install nvidia-kernel-3.2.0-3-amd64 but it says it depends on nvidia-kernel-common >= 20110213 and I can't seem to install it either |
| 18:17.17 | dysoco | boudiccas, propietary |
| 18:17.17 | boudiccas | dysoco, /what/ nvidia drivers? |
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| 18:19.25 | dysoco | I can't seem to install nvidia-kernel-common |
| 18:19.34 | dysoco | I'm using Wheezy btw |
| 18:19.37 | jelly-home | dysoco: pastebin the output of "apt-cac.... er, wait |
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| 18:19.42 | jelly-home | !bat |
| 18:19.43 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 18:19.48 | jelly-home | dysoco: that ^^ |
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| 18:22.24 | dysoco | wait, I'll change the locale to English |
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| 18:24.39 | dysoco | well I can't change it |
| 18:24.52 | dysoco | basically it says "No package found nvidia-kernel-common" |
| 18:25.05 | dysoco | so I'm guessing it's an error in /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 18:25.55 | boudiccas | dysoco, which therefore means that you should post your sources.list please |
| 18:26.02 | dysoco | yes, I'm copying it |
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| 18:27.53 | dysoco | http://paste.debian.net/199585/ |
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| 18:30.59 | boudiccas | dysoco, add this to your sources list, ... deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy main... update and try to install again |
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| 18:32.06 | mtn | dysoco: you need to add contrib |
| 18:32.17 | dysoco | boudiccas, this mirror is really slow, 20kb/s |
| 18:32.41 | jordanm | try cdn.debian.net |
| 18:33.04 | boudiccas | dysoco, which mirror? http.debian.net? thats the canonical one that will choose a nearby mirror for you |
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| 18:33.43 | dysoco | mtn, that worked |
| 18:33.58 | Sevet_ | or cdn.debian.net |
| 18:34.01 | JessicaW | is there an easy way to determine which ethernet port is which? |
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| 18:34.35 | JessicaW | like, is there a log somewhere when you plug in a cable? |
| 18:34.46 | Sevet_ | JessicaW: connect a cable connected to a switch to only one and look at the ifconfig output to see which is 'running' |
| 18:34.47 | digdilem | JessicaW, tail -f /var/log/syslog and pull one out |
| 18:34.54 | Sevet_ | dmesg perhaps |
| 18:35.00 | digdilem | syslog will spam which one goes poof |
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| 18:35.15 | JessicaW | Sevet_: did that, couldn't really tell the difference. :( |
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| 18:35.20 | Sevet_ | or if it's dhcp, plug one in and look in ifconfig at which gets the ip |
| 18:35.25 | jhutchins | JessicaW: ethtool will flash the lights on a specified port (if supported). |
| 18:35.30 | JessicaW | digdilem: I tailed syslog and the eth never come up. |
| 18:35.31 | jordanm | digdilem: no, syslog only gets kmesg info if klogd is installed |
| 18:35.42 | JessicaW | jhutchins: OOO! I like that idea. |
| 18:35.44 | jordanm | JessicaW: dmesg | tail -20 |
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| 18:35.58 | digdilem | ah, ok. Worked for me before but perhaps that was it. replace syslog with dmesg as per jordanm's then |
| 18:36.06 | JessicaW | okey dokey |
| 18:36.18 | digdilem | or just run ifconfig before and after |
| 18:36.39 | JessicaW | cool! thanks guys! |
| 18:36.45 | JessicaW | I'll go try it now! |
| 18:36.46 | digdilem | :) |
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| 18:38.33 | laodie | have edited the50-synaptics.conf file to add tap and scroll but nothing on a fresh install of squeeze |
| 18:39.48 | laodie | I used the Option "TapButton1" "1" and "VertEdgeScroll" "1" |
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| 18:40.26 | jhutchins | I don't see that option for debian's ethtool, maybe its some other tool... |
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| 18:42.38 | LordDeath | I am looking for a minimal desktop |
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| 18:42.54 | LordDeath | even gnome-core needs 1GB hdd space :-S |
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| 18:45.13 | ratcheer | LordDeath: I use LXDE. Switched from Gnome, actually. But I had to do a fresh install to get rid of all the Gnome bloat. |
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| 18:46.08 | ratcheer | LordDeath: That was on another distro. I've used LXDE from the beginning with Debian. |
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| 18:46.23 | jhutchins | There it is, ethtool -p <iface> |
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| 18:53.45 | jhutchins | LordDeath: Yeah, gnome and kde4 are not minimal in any sense. |
| 18:54.42 | jhutchins | LordDeath: kde3.5 was a lot lighter than kde4, but still not what you'd consider minimal. |
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| 18:55.56 | jhutchins | LordDeath: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Desktops |
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| 19:22.45 | jhutchins | checks to make sure his scroll buffer isn't stuck... |
| 19:22.56 | jhutchins | ....@....@....@....@... |
| 19:23.16 | mtn | give it a kick |
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| 19:24.13 | jhutchins | <chirp><chirp> |
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| 19:26.12 | harovali | hi, I have a debian system running squeeze with a 2.6.32-5-686 kernel. I need to upgrade the kernel. Is linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.3-686-pae a safe option from backports ? |
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| 19:27.02 | harovali | I know what pae is, but I don't know what bpo is. Any help ? |
| 19:27.20 | MrFrood | bpo = backports |
| 19:27.31 | harovali | MrFrood: thanks |
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| 19:28.14 | MrFrood | !tell harovali about bpo |
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| 19:35.00 | jhutchins | I think bpo got corrupted from bdo (bakports.debian.org) |
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| 19:35.56 | mtn | doesn't want any of that corrupted stuff |
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| 19:38.36 | weeb1e | nsadmin: I'm guessing you're long gone already, but the techie is finally attempting the install now |
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| 19:47.31 | pzn | want to speed up disk... is there anyway to "dedicate RAM for disk caches"? (like RAM in some hi end disk controllers) using debian testing |
| 19:48.04 | harovali | MrFrood: thanks ! |
| 19:48.18 | MrFrood | np |
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| 19:48.43 | dbnubsta | hi i remove the default bind with purge option and reinstalled bind from source |
| 19:48.45 | somiaj | I thought linux did that by default pzn. It's part of the kernel. If it is for a paticular project you need some ram disk space to read/write from you can use tmpfs. |
| 19:49.05 | dbnubsta | but now im missing the init.d script for bind is there a way to recreate it or does the compile produce one somewhere in the source dir ? |
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| 19:49.31 | somiaj | dbnubsta: you may have to write your own. But lest go back, why are you compling bind from source? |
| 19:49.38 | pzn | somiaj, yes, it does. but if someone opens too much apps, it will use RAM for apps... I'd like to keep 1Gb for disk buffers for example (not shareable with other needs). |
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| 19:49.56 | dbnubsta | somiaj: for samba4, needs some options enabled |
| 19:50.11 | somiaj | dbnubsta: do you need a newer version, or just different compile options? |
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| 19:50.33 | dbnubsta | im following samba faq and just installed the one they mentioned in the article |
| 19:50.41 | somiaj | pzn: well by default it should be using all extra ram for cache. What happens when you run out of ram and apps need more (because you have used all but that last gig)? |
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| 19:51.15 | pzn | somiaj, then I want apps to swap, not disk caches being consumed |
| 19:51.16 | somiaj | dbnubsta: you can recompile the debian package to include the options you want. Then hold that package so it doen't get upgrade |
| 19:51.18 | mobilegamer999 | I have a debian machine that is hooked up to a screen which supports a min resolution of 640x480 and a max resolution of 800x600 but when i add my own modeline for 800x480 and switch to it, i get an error saying "Fail to change the screen configuration!" |
| 19:51.19 | dbnubsta | it needed compuile options yues |
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| 19:51.44 | somiaj | dbnubsta: you could grab the init.d script from the debian package then modify it for your needs and copy it into /etc/init.d |
| 19:51.55 | somiaj | dbnubsta: I personally prefer making my own debian packages in case like this |
| 19:52.31 | somiaj | dbnubsta: /msg dpkg package recompile |
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| 19:52.49 | somiaj | dbnubsta: in that you can modify the build options used and make your own package from the debian sources such that you have the options you need. |
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| 19:53.19 | somiaj | but if the bind source didn't provide an init.d script you'll have to provide your own (in many cases the distributions write their own init.d scripts to fit how their system deals with bootup, services, etc) |
| 19:53.24 | NASDAQEnema | anyone having crashes in iceweasel that look like this |
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| 19:54.29 | NASDAQEnema | ###!!! ABORT: X_SendEvent: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation); 103 requests ago: file /tmp/buildd/iceweasel-16.0.1/toolkit/xre/nsX11ErrorHandler.cpp, line 157 |
| 19:54.33 | NASDAQEnema | Segmentation fault |
| 19:54.39 | NASDAQEnema | :( |
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| 19:55.09 | dbnubsta | somiaj: can i extract init from the debian package and use that without any edits |
| 19:55.29 | somiaj | dbnubsta: you may have to change some of the headers to point to the correct bind binary, but I bet ya it would almost work |
| 19:55.47 | somiaj | NASDAQEnema: what version of debian are you running. I'm assuming these errors are common since that version looks to be experimential. |
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| 19:56.23 | somiaj | because verions 16.0 is in experiemential. Seems testing/unstable is using version 10 |
| 19:56.47 | NASDAQEnema | somiaj: It started when I updated to 16 from 15 |
| 19:57.01 | NASDAQEnema | and 15 kept crashing |
| 19:57.18 | somiaj | NASDAQEnema: what version of debian are you using? Note version 15 and 16 are both comming from the exerimential branch (which means there is probabaly major problems) |
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| 19:57.35 | somiaj | NASDAQEnema: you should also check the BTS for problems with that package. |
| 19:57.55 | NASDAQEnema | i use experimental |
| 19:58.09 | NASDAQEnema | gnome-mud also crashes |
| 19:58.10 | somiaj | debian experimental is not a full distribution. What is your base distribution. |
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| 19:58.29 | somiaj | but yea mixing in experimential packages can cause all of these issues. |
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| 20:00.06 | NASDAQEnema | it's not reasonable for iceweasel to be that many versions behind on testing |
| 20:00.31 | pindemon | Hello - using debian wheezy - why the command "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" does nothing? no errors, no menus, nothing... |
| 20:00.36 | somiaj | testing is now in a frozen stage to be stable. It is very reasonable for it's versino to be fixed and it will most likely not chagne NASDAQEnema |
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| 20:00.59 | somiaj | also I wouldn't recomend installing experiemtnial packages on testing. You want to stay within test as much as possible to be ready for the freeze. |
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| 20:01.31 | somiaj | pindemon: most likely because that package has no debconf questions to ask you or your debconf priority is tuned to low. |
| 20:01.38 | somiaj | pindemon: what is it you want to change? |
| 20:01.50 | jelly-home | NASDAQEnema: I just use Firefox, installed as user to /opt/firefox. Mozilla's update mechanism works. |
| 20:02.11 | NASDAQEnema | that's different - it's still 6 versions (who knows how many vulns) behind |
| 20:02.22 | jhutchins | jelly-home: Is mdn not keeping up lately? |
| 20:02.24 | somiaj | pindemon: seems to work here. try to dpkg-reconfigure debconf and change the priority of the questions it asks. |
| 20:02.31 | pindemon | I'm using apple aluminium keyboard and I'm unable to do chars [ { - € # @ |
| 20:02.43 | n1md4 | hello, |
| 20:02.46 | pindemon | before you ask, I'm using another computer with irc :) |
| 20:03.07 | n1md4 | does anyone have experience with preseeding? |
| 20:03.12 | somiaj | jhutchins: mdn dones't really provide testing/unstable versions. seems mdn suggest using experimential packages on wheezy |
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| 20:03.23 | somiaj | jhutchins: I assume they will start providing better packages once weezy stablizes. |
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| 20:03.37 | n1md4 | I'd like to be able to pass an ip address as an option? |
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| 20:05.09 | pindemon | somiaj: priority is high |
| 20:05.16 | pindemon | somiaj: in debconf |
| 20:05.36 | somiaj | pindemon: try lowering it to medium or low, and then rerun that dpkg-reconfigure option |
| 20:06.25 | jelly-home | jhutchins: that seems to be the case |
| 20:07.28 | somiaj | NASDAQEnema: debian security fixes the vulns in the version it has. So sure it is 6 versions (in the way firefox keeps releasing new versions this is actually not that big). firefox 10 was only released eariler this year |
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| 20:07.51 | pindemon | somiaj: lowered to low, and no result - maybe missing locales or something related? (dunno really) |
| 20:08.03 | somiaj | pindemon: I don't know either. It worked just fine here. |
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| 20:08.29 | somiaj | pindemon: I'm on sid, but it shouldn't be that different from wheezy. And it shouldn't be due to missing packages. That is just a debconf (configure) option of the package itself. |
| 20:09.02 | pindemon | somiaj: wait, maybe is because there is no physical keyboard attached to the computer? |
| 20:09.27 | somiaj | pindemon: well then there would be no keyboard to configure. Are you trying to configure a remote keyboard? |
| 20:10.09 | somiaj | yea seems like firefox 10 is their esr supported release, and 11,12,..,16 are just them ramping up the number for their development branch. |
| 20:10.13 | pindemon | well, I'm using synergy to control a remote computer (under the desk) |
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| 20:10.45 | pindemon | somiaj: maybe I can plug the keyboard, configure it, then see if the configuration sticks |
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| 20:11.28 | somiaj | pindemon: worth a shot. (: |
| 20:11.38 | pindemon | somiaj: indeed |
| 20:13.06 | chovy | Sevet_: http://chovy.dyndns.org/test/redis_6379 |
| 20:13.13 | chovy | can you tell me where the lsb headers are? |
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| 20:14.09 | somiaj | chovy: they are crapy. But they are between BEGIN INIT INFO and END INIT INFO |
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| 20:14.27 | somiaj | chovy: http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts -- use that as a reference |
| 20:14.50 | pindemon | somiaj: it worked, asked for the mapping, but once disconnected and reconnected to the other computer it loose the configuration |
| 20:14.58 | somiaj | the ones in that file need cleanedup |
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| 20:15.14 | chovy | so my required-start/stop and should-start/stop need a value. but what would that be? |
| 20:15.20 | somiaj | pindemon: I don't know enough about what is going on in that case to be of much more use. |
| 20:15.50 | somiaj | chovy: those are other services you would depend on. What is this for. does it require any thing? (those being empty isn't what I was complaingin about) |
| 20:15.58 | pindemon | somiaj: thanks anyway |
| 20:15.58 | somiaj | no run levels and crap descriptions are what I think is crapy |
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| 20:16.34 | chovy | somiaj: i'm not sure, it's just redis |
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| 20:17.02 | chovy | but this command is spitting out errors |
| 20:17.03 | chovy | http://pastie.org/5045721 |
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| 20:17.19 | somiaj | chovy: I would add a Defalt Start and Default Stop, so things like update-rc.d know where to put the links |
| 20:17.27 | chovy | insserv: missing `Required-Start:' entry: please add even if empty. |
| 20:17.43 | chovy | i don't know what you mean a default start/stop |
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| 20:18.01 | chovy | what is it, another script? what script do i use |
| 20:18.32 | somiaj | http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts -- read that page. Note it is just a comment block that you put in options read by system init scripts |
| 20:19.08 | somiaj | the block they have there is a good basic example. So use that. though I would leave Required-Start: and Required-Stop: empty if there are nothign it depends on |
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| 20:20.11 | chovy | it says i need a boot facility. whatever that is |
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| 20:21.32 | chovy | i figured it out |
| 20:21.36 | chovy | i just copied what was in nginix |
| 20:21.48 | phaedral | having trouble with documentation: Does picking the various A/V suites in tasksel give me the same low-latency kernel as ubuntu-studio? In testing? |
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| 20:22.56 | somiaj | chovy: reading the documentatino and trying to understand what those headers mean is helpful to. You should modify the nginix headers to fit that init script |
| 20:23.01 | phaedral | And on another channel someone asked about kernel switching on the fly, but that sounds wrong somehow to me. |
| 20:24.35 | chovy | i understood as soon as i looked at another script |
| 20:24.46 | somiaj | phaedral: you can see excatly wich packages are installed for a paticular task. But I cannot think of any low latency kernel. I guess we do have a -rt kernel in debian with the PREEMPT_RT patch set |
| 20:25.10 | phaedral | :( |
| 20:25.14 | somiaj | phaedral: but I cannot think of any task which will install a differnet kernel. |
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| 20:25.35 | phaedral | So over my head, but I really appreciate the answer. It's why folks like me still use training-wheels. |
| 20:25.42 | somiaj | phaedral: you can look at /boot/config-`uname -r` to see what config options were used in the debian kernel. |
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| 20:26.22 | phaedral | somiaj: Better I should spend the weekend with a quick review of the debian admin manuals. :) |
| 20:26.33 | phaedral | That'd be better for me and the channel. |
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| 20:28.47 | AresTheLion | question, backports are kind of badly described at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports, can someone describe them to me? |
| 20:29.01 | t7 | how long are things in unstable before going into sid repos? |
| 20:29.15 | somiaj | AresTheLion: this is #debian. If you want help with ubuntu and their backports. goto #ubuntu |
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| 20:29.33 | somiaj | t7: sid = unstable. And that will always be the codename for unstable |
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| 20:29.42 | t7 | i mean experimental ? |
| 20:29.49 | zinx | experimental has no code name |
| 20:29.59 | somiaj | t7: there is no time frame. packages are only put there if the matnainer seems them as to buggy or sid |
| 20:30.01 | zinx | it's not a 'release' |
| 20:30.13 | somiaj | t7: it is mearly a place to put packages while something 'major' |
| 20:30.15 | somiaj | is worked out |
| 20:30.26 | somiaj | most packages go directally into sid when the matianer uploads them |
| 20:30.48 | jelly-home | AresTheLion: the meaning and technical and policy implications might differ subtly between distros |
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| 20:31.01 | t7 | i have been waiting for this for ages http://packages.debian.org/experimental/smuxi-frontend-gnome |
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| 20:32.57 | somiaj | ,versions smuxi-frontend-gnome |
| 20:32.58 | judd | Package: smuxi-frontend-gnome on i386 -- lenny-backports: 0.7.2.2-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 0.7.2.2-1; squeeze-backports: 0.8.9.1-3~bpo60+1; sid: 0.8.10-1; wheezy: 0.8.10-1; experimental: 0.8.10-2 |
| 20:33.21 | simonlnu | wonders why t7 has been waiting |
| 20:33.23 | somiaj | t7: is there a major difference between 0.8.10-1 and 0.8.10-2 -- seems like a debian change mroe than a software changes. |
| 20:33.40 | somiaj | as in the -versions I thougth were debian subversions (not upstream version differences) |
| 20:33.49 | t7 | somiaj: i filed bug report because spell checking isnt enabled |
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| 20:34.03 | t7 | he said its in .12 |
| 20:34.07 | t7 | 10-2 * |
| 20:34.15 | simonlnu | ah |
| 20:34.34 | somiaj | there must be things he is worry about breaking if the matianer just droped it into sid |
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| 20:34.52 | somiaj | t7: what is wrong with using the experiemntial package as it is? You could compile your own. |
| 20:35.01 | simonlnu | "MAINTAINER" ! ;) |
| 20:35.15 | t7 | i dont wanna eff everything up if i install over smuxi now or something |
| 20:35.17 | somiaj | if you are using stable you could try and backport it to. |
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| 20:36.41 | phaedral | somiaj: I sometimes think all the daughter distros are born of folks just not gettint the point you're making |
| 20:37.05 | phaedral | it's easy, if you're a wizard, to forget those first spells |
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| 20:37.28 | phaedral | were ever so hard |
| 20:37.29 | t7 | somiaj: do i have to apt remove smuxi first? |
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| 20:37.43 | paul0 | running aptitude upgrade, and it is solving conflicts for a long time |
| 20:37.57 | paul0 | what it's doing? |
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| 20:38.03 | somiaj | t7: nope, experimential by default should be pinned lower, just apt-get -t experimental install foo should work |
| 20:38.17 | somiaj | t7: just pay attention to what it installs so you can manually downgrade if needed |
| 20:38.29 | t7 | ok brb |
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| 20:40.07 | simonlnu | phaedral: ultimately it's more work to set up your own distro than to just re-package something |
| 20:40.18 | phaedral | simonlnu: that's what I'm learning |
| 20:40.21 | simonlnu | which is why i fail to understand this |
| 20:40.36 | phaedral | tech only just now really in reach of folks with my truly baby-chops |
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| 20:40.46 | phaedral | imo |
| 20:41.19 | phaedral | I got a law degree between now and way back in '99 or '00, the first time I failed to put Potato on my iMac. :\ |
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| 20:42.28 | t7 | E: The value 'experimental' is invalid for APT::Default-R... :( |
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| 20:42.43 | simonlnu | people get that from using win |
| 20:43.19 | simonlnu | t7: you have to have it present in sources.list first ;) |
| 20:43.26 | simonlnu | then update, etc. |
| 20:43.34 | t7 | wont it pull all my stuff from experimental ? |
| 20:43.38 | t7 | -if i do that |
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| 20:44.00 | simonlnu | exp. is pinned very low. besides, don't you just want the source package? |
| 20:45.41 | t7 | ok take 2 |
| 20:46.08 | ompaul | !experimental |
| 20:46.08 | dpkg | experimental is the bleeding edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit/DANGEROUS/untrustworthy/etc for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does _not_ support experimental. For an actual description, see section 4.6.4.3 of the Developer's Reference. http://packages.debian.org/experimental/ |
| 20:46.10 | phaedral | simonlnu: this is an idea I only just now think I'm getting: Experimental gives me access to all the bleeding edge there is...but everthing starts with a known-to-work, "sensible" version |
| 20:46.35 | phaedral | See, dpkg makes mortals like me pee our pants |
| 20:46.37 | ompaul | drat too slow |
| 20:46.39 | simonlnu | exp. is even less guaranteed to work than anything else |
| 20:46.49 | phaedral | doesn't say, "It's safe as houses but lets you tinker" |
| 20:47.03 | ompaul | phaedral: because it is not |
| 20:47.07 | phaedral | which is not so crazy far from true, or there wouldn't be so many famous daughters, imo |
| 20:48.06 | simonlnu | even me who mixes stuff locally, hesitates with exp., but less so than with a 3rd party |
| 20:48.06 | phaedral | ompaul: sure, but the way it currently currectly puts it discourages use and drives folks away; find a precise truth that attracts, why not? |
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| 20:48.41 | ompaul | phaedral: it says it there, "without knowing" |
| 20:48.49 | simonlnu | phaedral: it's put that way for newbies who know little about the package mgt. sys. |
| 20:48.51 | ompaul | phaedral: if you have to ask - you shouldn't be doing it |
| 20:49.08 | ompaul | now if you have to ask about sid - maybe you shouldn't be doing it |
| 20:49.11 | simonlnu | and expect stability ;) |
| 20:49.11 | phaedral | ompaul: a decade ago that was a bullshit answer; now I'm a lawyer and it's worse |
| 20:49.31 | phaedral | debian is the system, but can't be bothered to invite experimentation |
| 20:49.34 | phaedral | meh |
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| 20:49.47 | ompaul | phaedral: well stop practicing and start doing :P |
| 20:50.07 | paul0 | ruined my system, almost 500 package conflicts |
| 20:50.11 | ompaul | phaedral: it offers stable for a reason, if you think you can work outside of stable be ready to use it |
| 20:50.20 | ompaul | and fix it |
| 20:51.10 | ompaul | phaedral: if you are not able to - and can't live with it - go use stable - I'm a sysadmin - I provide linux desktops for people who are not techies to use |
| 20:51.10 | phaedral | ompaul: meatspace, specifically, the female I will be dining with tonight, beckons |
| 20:51.13 | phaedral | another time |
| 20:51.49 | ompaul | ... and he missed the great line :) |
| 20:52.00 | ompaul | and I am about to start running SID on the desktops |
| 20:52.09 | ompaul | after years of stable |
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| 20:53.38 | simonlnu | just like a lawyer ;P |
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| 20:54.28 | simonlnu | (paid to argue to win, not argue for justice) |
| 20:54.35 | solidus-river | where is versioning information kept in apt |
| 20:54.49 | solidus-river | er, in .deb packages |
| 20:54.54 | paul0 | weird, now aptitude is removing gnome and itself |
| 20:55.04 | ompaul | paul0: what did you do ... |
| 20:55.08 | solidus-river | paul0: oh god, stop it |
| 20:55.32 | paul0 | something happened, and I have a lot of package conflicts now |
| 20:55.53 | paul0 | well, gnome is still running |
| 20:55.55 | simonlnu | solidus-river: debian/changelog |
| 20:55.56 | ompaul | paul0: "something" and "happened" ... what did you do? |
| 20:56.15 | solidus-river | ah, so if i want to bump the version on a package, i add a new line to debian/changelog? |
| 20:56.20 | paul0 | ompaul: upgraded from stable to testing, I guess |
| 20:56.25 | simonlnu | solidus-river: apt db, or in packages? |
| 20:56.31 | ompaul | paul0: you did dist-upgrade? |
| 20:56.37 | solidus-river | i'm maintaining my own repo |
| 20:56.39 | simonlnu | solidus-river: well, there's a certain format |
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| 20:56.40 | ompaul | or just upgrade? |
| 20:56.41 | paul0 | ompaul: well, no |
| 20:56.46 | paul0 | just upgrade |
| 20:56.52 | ompaul | paul0: do dist-upgrade |
| 20:57.03 | ompaul | paul0: upgrade is not a good idea |
| 20:57.07 | paul0 | I'll do, after it removes everything |
| 20:57.09 | ompaul | dist-upgrade is |
| 20:57.16 | paul0 | lol |
| 20:57.16 | ompaul | paul0: if you still can |
| 20:57.32 | paul0 | tried, but then there was a lot of conflicts to solve |
| 20:58.13 | ompaul | paul0: please pastebin the contents of "/etc/apt/sources.list" |
| 20:58.21 | ompaul | paul0: paste.debian.net please |
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| 20:59.40 | paul0 | ompaul: http://paste.debian.net/199654/ |
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| 21:02.31 | ompaul | paul0: putting that information in mind, when you are ready do the dist-upgrade --- I hope you get to the point where it will let you |
| 21:03.00 | paul0 | haha |
| 21:03.07 | paul0 | I think it will work |
| 21:03.35 | chovy | ok, my startup script works fine from the command line, when i use /etc/init.d/my-app start |
| 21:03.55 | chovy | i tried update-rc.d my-app defaults but it does not start when ir eboot |
| 21:04.00 | chovy | reboot |
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| 21:05.44 | nsadmin | chovy, does /etc/init.d/your-app stop work? |
| 21:05.56 | ompaul | paul0: when you are not working on stable you should always use dist-upgrade ... it cleans up and prepares the ground for the new packages, the other one does all the wrong things when you are not on stable, once you have the wheezy in place keep with the dist-upgrades until you have done one after the relase |
| 21:05.59 | ompaul | release even |
| 21:06.22 | chovy | nsadmin yes |
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| 21:07.30 | nsadmin | ok, do you make a pid file? |
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| 21:08.19 | chovy | yes |
| 21:08.34 | paul0 | ompaul: thanks, and what about aptitude? it seems good to solve these things |
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| 21:09.22 | ompaul | paul0: "solving" |
| 21:09.35 | ompaul | paul0: that's an interesting idea - you don't solve upgrades |
| 21:09.48 | ompaul | you dist-upgrade it gets it right |
| 21:09.57 | chovy | nsadmin: http://chovy.dyndns.org/test/node-app |
| 21:10.01 | paul0 | doing dist-upgrade now |
| 21:10.06 | chovy | works fine from cli |
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| 21:10.47 | nsadmin | ok, where does it place the pid file? /var/run/what? |
| 21:11.21 | chovy | /var/www/wishd.me/wishd/pid/app.pid |
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| 21:12.06 | chovy | echo $! > $APP_DIR/pid/app.pid; |
| 21:12.20 | nsadmin | chovy, when you do /etc/init.d/your-app stop, does it remove the pid file? |
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| 21:12.47 | chovy | yes |
| 21:13.14 | nsadmin | ok, so right after you boot, does the pid file exist? |
| 21:13.29 | chovy | nope |
| 21:13.36 | chovy | i thought that was it, but its not there |
| 21:13.51 | chovy | it should only be created once this script runs |
| 21:13.57 | nsadmin | so your script maybe was never run |
| 21:14.35 | chovy | no. it looks like it was ignored |
| 21:14.50 | chovy | update-rc.d myapp default |
| 21:14.55 | chovy | isnm't that all i have to do? |
| 21:15.19 | nsadmin | and, you should find out why. the first and most obvious reason, would be "no links to my-app in /etc/rc?.d" |
| 21:16.02 | nsadmin | so check for that now |
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| 21:17.10 | nsadmin | also you might consider using insserv and put the lsb headers into your /etc/init.d/my-app |
| 21:17.34 | chovy | what should my defaultstart/stop be in the lsb headers? |
| 21:17.57 | chovy | # Default-Start: 2 3 4 5 |
| 21:17.58 | chovy | # Default-Stop: 0 1 6 |
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| 21:18.12 | chovy | that's what i have now. but i just need it in rc.6 i think |
| 21:18.13 | nsadmin | yeah, that looks good |
| 21:18.39 | nsadmin | rc6,d is for halt or restart |
| 21:18.51 | chovy | # Required-Start: $network $remote_fs $local_fs |
| 21:18.51 | chovy | # Required-Stop: $network $remote_fs $local_fs |
| 21:19.23 | nsadmin | so your network is -required- to be functional when starting this app? |
| 21:19.44 | chovy | yes |
| 21:19.56 | chovy | it's a web sever |
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| 21:20.17 | chovy | i look at what nginx script had and just used those stetings. |
| 21:20.19 | chovy | settings. |
| 21:20.23 | nsadmin | ok, and do you configure your interfaces in network-manager? or /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 21:20.33 | chovy | that all works |
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| 21:20.51 | nsadmin | need to know the answer |
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| 21:21.13 | nsadmin | which do you use? |
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| 21:21.43 | chovy | oh, i don't know that |
| 21:21.49 | chovy | i didn't set it up, its a vps |
| 21:22.12 | nsadmin | ok, so you probably do not use network-manager |
| 21:22.19 | chovy | it looks like /etc/network/interfaces |
| 21:22.39 | nsadmin | check your /etc/network/interfaces and see if it says allow-hotplug or auto |
| 21:23.01 | chovy | no, i don't see that |
| 21:23.05 | chovy | auto lo |
| 21:23.07 | chovy | is there |
| 21:23.16 | chovy | allow-hotplug eth0 |
| 21:23.19 | chovy | that's there too |
| 21:23.22 | nsadmin | ok |
| 21:23.32 | nsadmin | here's the difference: |
| 21:24.42 | nsadmin | allow-hotplug means that when the network is started, it puts into the background the piece that brings up the eth0 |
| 21:25.18 | nsadmin | (so it backgrounds it, and basically can't tell when it's really up) |
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| 21:26.07 | nsadmin | if you instead say auto eth0, then it will not background it, and it has to return before other stuff can happen |
| 21:26.28 | chovy | that's fine, but why would this script not work, but nginx does |
| 21:26.32 | nsadmin | that's actually what you want when the my-app thing is waiting for network |
| 21:26.42 | chovy | i think i ddi not add it to runlevel correclty |
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| 21:27.10 | nsadmin | are the links present in /etc/rc?.d |
| 21:27.27 | chovy | no |
| 21:27.36 | nsadmin | so then you're right |
| 21:27.51 | nsadmin | try typing insserv |
| 21:28.01 | nsadmin | then check for the links again |
| 21:28.32 | chovy | nope |
| 21:28.42 | harovali | I've added deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main to my Debian Squeeze's /etc/apt/sources.list. Is it OK to add contrib and non-free at the end of the line ? |
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| 21:29.05 | nsadmin | try this, just to see what you're dealing with... ls -d /etc/rc?.d |
| 21:29.09 | chovy | oh, now it worked |
| 21:29.15 | nsadmin | how many things do you get? |
| 21:29.40 | chovy | is it normal for it to be in all dirs? |
| 21:29.47 | damacus | chovy: what happened between "nope" and "now it worked" |
| 21:29.56 | nsadmin | yes, they represent the runlevels |
| 21:30.04 | chovy | http://pastie.org/5047988 |
| 21:30.14 | damacus | and you should have S* in the 2 3 4 5, and K* in 0 1 6 |
| 21:30.14 | chovy | oko |
| 21:30.16 | damacus | i believe |
| 21:30.23 | chovy | i thought runlevels were like steps. |
| 21:30.29 | chovy | why would you add to all of them? |
| 21:30.34 | damacus | they aren't |
| 21:30.53 | damacus | solaris and some systems use milestones or whatever |
| 21:31.08 | damacus | linux in general though, you choose the runlevel you want to enter |
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| 21:31.15 | damacus | and that's it, with few exceptions. |
| 21:31.25 | nsadmin | well by default, the runlevels 2 3 4 5 are all the same |
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| 21:31.34 | chovy | yeah, that's why i'm confused |
| 21:31.40 | chovy | if they are all the same, why have them? |
| 21:31.46 | nsadmin | 0 1 and 6 are for shutting down |
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| 21:32.07 | damacus | because they don't have to be. you could customize eg level 4 to run extra services |
| 21:32.11 | nsadmin | chovy, it's thought the machine owner would make them different if he wanted |
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| 21:32.21 | damacus | and then switch between 3 and 4 for instance when you dont want to have that enabled |
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| 21:32.33 | damacus | btw, i'd stay away from 5 also |
| 21:32.43 | damacus | on some systems, that's shutdown with power off. |
| 21:32.57 | nsadmin | why stay away from 5? |
| 21:33.01 | damacus | sometimes linux uses that as graphical, i think.. but I've also seen 4 used for that |
| 21:33.09 | nsadmin | oh |
| 21:33.12 | damacus | either way, i recommend avoiding 5 if you're doing anything special :) |
| 21:33.40 | nsadmin | isn't THAT special? |
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| 21:34.45 | yeehi | On a fresh virtual installation of a debian based OS, I attempt an update and receive an error message - my anti-virus terminates the connection as it detects JS/TrojanDownloader.Agent.GJ trojan. The command: gem install librex -v '0.0.68' causes the anti-virus to terminate the connection. The md5sum of the iso image was ok |
| 21:34.52 | yeehi | what should I do? |
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| 21:34.57 | peterrooney | !based on debian |
| 21:34.58 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 21:35.00 | chovy | well, it still doesn't start |
| 21:35.03 | chovy | the symlinks are there |
| 21:35.11 | yeehi | hello peterrooney |
| 21:35.38 | yeehi | ok, thanks dpkg |
| 21:36.00 | chovy | the pid file is there |
| 21:37.19 | nsadmin | that's a good sign,,, it means for one thing the script ran\ |
| 21:37.34 | chovy | but the app is not running |
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| 21:37.39 | chovy | how do i tail a pid? |
| 21:38.02 | nsadmin | it would only get written once... try just catting it |
| 21:38.17 | chovy | not, the actual process |
| 21:38.23 | chovy | strace -ppid |
| 21:38.25 | chovy | i think |
| 21:38.42 | nsadmin | you could watch "cat /var/something/pidfile" |
| 21:39.03 | chovy | says not such process. |
| 21:39.05 | nsadmin | or whatever the name is, if you want to -monitor- it |
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| 21:40.09 | chovy | yeah, it looks like it was created then crashed |
| 21:40.16 | chovy | or stopped fro some reason |
| 21:41.35 | chovy | it did not find supervisor |
| 21:41.41 | chovy | i guess i need full path |
| 21:41.48 | nsadmin | ok, supervisor? |
| 21:41.55 | nsadmin | you're using daemontools? |
| 21:42.33 | nsadmin | that's a whole different conversation if so... but let's assume no for the moment |
| 21:42.49 | nsadmin | now that we know it tried to run, |
| 21:43.01 | nsadmin | we want to see if it logged anything |
| 21:44.14 | chovy | yeh, in the log it said it couldn't find supervisor |
| 21:44.26 | chovy | i am trying with full path |
| 21:44.38 | chovy | maybe $PATH isn't setup yet in runlevel |
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| 21:45.26 | nsadmin | what's the exact text of that message? |
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| 21:45.36 | chovy | now it can't find node |
| 21:45.42 | chovy | /usr/bin/env: node: No such file or directory |
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| 21:46.31 | nsadmin | so supervisor and node are commands? |
| 21:46.38 | chovy | supervisor starts node |
| 21:46.53 | chovy | looks like that script won't run |
| 21:46.57 | chovy | i will remove it |
| 21:47.03 | trinathon | What frame work is d8 on? |
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| 21:47.42 | trinathon | Haha nm wrong channel |
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| 21:48.02 | jcrowgey | hi debian room, i'm back with another question :), this one might be harder than my last one. |
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| 21:49.15 | chovy | nsadmin: it works now. thanks a ton |
| 21:49.19 | trinathon | jcrowgey what's up? |
| 21:49.33 | jcrowgey | i'm on a new asus ultrabook (ux31a) my install from usb was squeeze, and now i've updated to wheezy. many things are suddenly working, i've got support for iwlwifi and i've got the full video resolution i expect. the only issue seems to be that the touchpad has gone a little wonky |
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| 21:50.17 | trinathon | Could you describe wonky a bit? |
| 21:50.26 | jcrowgey | basically, clicking and dragging seems to be broken |
| 21:51.10 | jcrowgey | this touchpad has the two buttons seemingly integrated into the touchpad area, now when i click on the button, that works, but holding the button seems that the touchpad thinks my finger is in the lower left corner, so i can't move the pointer anywhere |
| 21:51.53 | trinathon | Hmm... that really is a good one. |
| 21:51.55 | jcrowgey | it works fine for moving the pointer around generally, and it works fine for clicking, but if want to click and drag, i'm stuck |
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| 21:54.16 | jcrowgey | aha, i think i've got the solution! if anyone's curious, i had to do modprobe -r psmouse |
| 21:54.29 | jcrowgey | then reload it with proto=imps |
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| 21:54.50 | jcrowgey | described here: http://www.debianuserforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=658 |
| 21:55.11 | jcrowgey | okay, signing off again. i love you guys! |
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| 21:55.44 | trinathon | Take care |
| 21:55.49 | nsadmin | jcrowgey, so, ps mouses are legacy things, and unfortunately one of the |
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| 21:56.58 | nsadmin | legacies are that damage could easily be caused by plugging/unplugging a ps mouse or kbd with oower on... so, care is due |
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| 21:58.04 | nsadmin | he left before he heard any of that :/ |
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| 22:04.48 | weeb1e | nsadmin: First installation froze on detecting link |
| 22:05.00 | weeb1e | nsadmin: After a reboot the rest of the installation went fine |
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| 22:05.58 | weeb1e | But they forgot to disable hyperthreading, so a techie will have to be sent back again next week I guess |
| 22:06.43 | weeb1e | 32 vcores @ 2.0ghz is not too useful |
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| 22:14.13 | nsadmin | what's the hyperthreading thing doing that's bad? |
| 22:14.18 | confusid | I used apt-get install icedove and when I try to run it from the icon in the menu it shows an icon on the bar but does not open. |
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| 22:17.25 | nsadmin | ,pciid 14e4:4727 |
| 22:17.26 | judd | [14e4:4727] is 'BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with kernel module 'brcm80211' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=14e4:4727 http://wiki.debian.org/wl http://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211 and the out-of-tree 'wl' module. |
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| 22:42.30 | confusid | I get this error after installing icedove confusid@porta:/usr/bin$ ./icedove/usr/lib/icedove/icedove-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/icedove/components/libdbusservice.so: undefined symbol: NS_Alloc |
| 22:42.30 | questionnaire | Hi all |
| 22:42.34 | questionnaire | can i ask you something? |
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| 22:43.02 | questionnaire | does debian use GPL packages only? |
| 22:43.11 | ansgar | No. |
| 22:43.19 | questionnaire | what else? |
| 22:43.21 | questionnaire | BSD too? |
| 22:44.08 | ansgar | Other free software licenses. There are quite a lot of them because having just a few would be too easy. |
| 22:44.11 | MrFrood | questionnaire: there is even a version of debian with a bsd kernel |
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| 22:44.28 | questionnaire | well is it a legal issue if /usr/share/docs is missing? |
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| 22:44.55 | rudi_s | questionnaire: Any license which is DFSG free: http://www.debian.org/social_contract |
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| 22:45.06 | rudi_s | questionnaire: Yes, because then copyright is missing too. |
| 22:45.19 | questionnaire | rudi_s: but the copyright is also in the man page and in the packages itself? |
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| 22:46.06 | rudi_s | questionnaire: Doesn't matter, AFAIK copyright must be shipped in /usr/share/doc/<package>/copyright |
| 22:46.22 | questionnaire | rudi_s: no, definetly not |
| 22:46.35 | rudi_s | questionnaire: ? |
| 22:46.38 | questionnaire | rudi_s: even the upstream software itself doesn't ship it there |
| 22:46.48 | rudi_s | questionnaire: Doesn't matter, Debian packages must ship it. |
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| 22:47.05 | questionnaire | rudi_s: does this stand in the GPL? |
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| 22:47.54 | rudi_s | questionnaire: No. It's a Debian policy. Check the Debian Policy (package debian-policy) section 4.5. |
| 22:48.08 | rudi_s | GPL just requires a (full) copy of the license to be shipped with the package. |
| 22:48.30 | questionnaire | rudi_s: and no mention of the maintainer? |
| 22:48.40 | questionnaire | rudi_s: author |
| 22:48.50 | rudi_s | questionnaire: Of course the author is mentioned there. |
| 22:48.51 | questionnaire | rudi_s: the person who coded it |
| 22:49.04 | questionnaire | rudi_s: i thought gpl author can be removed |
| 22:49.09 | rudi_s | there = copyright |
| 22:49.10 | questionnaire | rudi_s: from the licence |
| 22:49.44 | rudi_s | questionnaire: The license doesn't include an author at all. But AFAIK all programs licensed under GPL must be licensed to somebody, even if it's an organization. |
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| 22:50.19 | confusid | ran apt-get update and apt-get upgrade and same error. I installed icedove on the last install and it worked without an issue. I reinstalled the system a few times today seeing how the encryption works but have a normal base system with xfce installed with the 3.2 kernal and 2 firmware packages for my nic and wifi. Any suggestions of what to look at to fix this? |
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| 22:51.09 | questionnaire | rudi_s: well, then...do you think this situation is a problem for me? i took Debian ISO and modified a bit with other pre-installed software for example chromium-browser and so on...to share the ISO with friends. and the iso was bigger than 700 MB so i deleted the /usr/Shar/doc file |
| 22:51.21 | questionnaire | rudi_s: do you think it's against the law rudi_s? |
| 22:52.43 | rudi_s | questionnaire: I'm not sure, but I don't think it's a problem (but I'm not a lawyer). If it's just between friends it's no problem of course. |
| 22:53.08 | questionnaire | rudi_s: between friends, yes, that's right. but i wanted to put it on my page |
| 22:53.17 | confusid | make a dvd? |
| 22:53.19 | questionnaire | (for all who like it) |
| 22:53.24 | rudi_s | But if you share it publicly I think the copyright information should be available somewhere. |
| 22:53.34 | questionnaire | rudi_s: they are in the packages |
| 22:53.41 | questionnaire | rudi_s: but not in the ISO itself |
| 22:53.46 | rudi_s | (And IMHO another "distribution" is not necessary, just use Debian and provide a few installation instructions.) |
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| 22:54.01 | rudi_s | questionnaire: If they are just Debian packages, then a link to the official packages _should_ be enough. |
| 22:54.15 | rudi_s | (Btw. I wouldn't want to use a Debian with all the /doc/ directories remove ..) |
| 22:54.18 | rudi_s | *removed |
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| 22:54.40 | questionnaire | yes they are debian packages only |
| 22:54.42 | MrFrood | as rudi_s said probably not an issue if it's just between friends but a distribution without licenses would at the very least leave the developer open to civil prosocution as I understand it, but I'm not a lawyer |
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| 22:56.24 | confusid | :/ I'm at a loss atm. |
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| 22:59.19 | PRabyte | hello. question - i configured /etc/network/interfaces with static ip info. when i do service networking stop ,,, start i only get localhost 127.0.0.1. the static settings are not taking. suggestions? |
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| 22:59.49 | PRabyte | when i do ifconfig, eth0 is not there... sighs... |
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| 23:03.07 | PRabyte | so i put the interfaces config back from bak.interfaces copy, rebooted, and it came up. 1. what is: allow-hotplug eth0. i come from other than deb linux and unix, i havent see that before. 2. what is the proper static syntax - note- i am using what i saw and debianadmin.com. no typos. 3. should i take the hotplug option out of interfaces. 4. this is also a vbox virtual guest. shouldnt matter though... suggestions? |
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| 23:05.37 | PRabyte | nevermind, i figured it out... thanks |
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| 23:25.32 | r3m | start |
| 23:25.45 | r3m | wrong windows |
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| 23:31.45 | BW^- | why is there no BitchX package for debian? |
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| 23:32.43 | jelly-home | !bitchx |
| 23:32.44 | dpkg | BitchX is an old and unmaintained <IRC> client built on epic and ircII. It was abandoned by its upstream, has known security issues and was removed from Debian post-Etch to resolve bug #451373. Ask me about <irssi>, <xchat>, <konversation>, <weechat> for alternatives. To ignore BitchX quit messages in irssi, ask me about <literal bitchxignore>. |
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| 23:33.22 | jelly-home | BW^-: is that a satisfactory answer |
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| 23:33.41 | natsukao1 | hi |
| 23:33.56 | natsukao1 | i typed lsusb |
| 23:34.05 | natsukao1 | Bus 002 Device 013: ID 04a9:2220 Canon, Inc. |
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| 23:34.22 | natsukao1 | it's my own scanner |
| 23:34.40 | natsukao1 | a scanner Canon Scan Lide25 |
| 23:35.12 | natsukao1 | it says: Failed to start scanner: |
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| 23:35.24 | natsukao1 | error during device I/O |
| 23:35.36 | natsukao1 | i am using xsane 0.995 |
| 23:35.39 | BW^- | jelly-home: whoa yeah that's a good answer |
| 23:36.11 | natsukao1 | how can i solve the problem ? |
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| 23:40.52 | acidfu_ | hello, anyone is running debian squeeze on a powerbook g4 ? I have no sound and I'm wondering why... I've looked up online and tested some stuff but still nothing... thank you |
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| 23:44.11 | peterrooney | acidfu_: there is #debianppc |
| 23:44.13 | jagginess | acidfu_, hope something turns out right from this page (i personally dont own a g4) http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnPowerPC |
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| 23:45.00 | acidfu_ | thank you, i'll join the channel and look at that web site |
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| 23:46.17 | GTRsdk | how do I find out 04f2:b1d8 is? |
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| 23:47.21 | daym0n | you can convert it but that wouldnt be useful , is that relating to a hardware id? |
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| 23:52.25 | tim_flatus | I'm doing my first install on a powerbook, I've never done a mac before - whee! |
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| 23:53.11 | GTRsdk | daym0n: that's the id output stuff I get from lsusb |
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| 23:54.47 | peterrooney | tim_flatus: welcome to the continuous IQ test; see also #debianppc |
| 23:54.56 | daym0n | then its a hardware identifier |
| 23:55.07 | simonlnu | GTRsdk: |
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| 23:55.17 | daym0n | each one is different ,, try lspci, you see what i mean |
| 23:55.21 | simonlnu | ,pciid 04f2:b1d8 |
| 23:55.22 | judd | [04f2:b1d8] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with no known kernel module in squeeze or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=04f2:b1d8 |
| 23:55.45 | simonlnu | oh, it's not PCI then ;) |
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| 23:56.36 | GTRsdk | ,usbid 04f2:b1d8 |
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| 23:58.23 | simonlnu | i don't think it has that |
