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| 00:03.03 | gnarface | ,v nvidia-glx |
| 00:03.04 | judd | Package: nvidia-glx on i386 -- lenny/non-free: 173.14.09-5; squeeze-proposed-updates/non-free: 195.36.31-6squeeze1; squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6squeeze2; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+2; wheezy/non-free: 304.48-1; sid/non-free: 304.48-2; experimental/non-free: 304.51-1 |
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| 00:08.48 | KsM | ,v compiz |
| 00:08.49 | judd | Package: compiz on i386 -- lenny: 0.7.6-7; squeeze: 0.8.4-4; sid: 0.8.4-5.2; experimental: 0.9.2.1+git20110226.f059fae9-4 |
| 00:09.18 | KsM | Not in wheezy? |
| 00:09.24 | somiaj | KsM: you can /msg judd v compiz if you don't need to share with the room |
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| 00:09.35 | KsM | ok |
| 00:09.42 | somiaj | KsM: nope, there is no matainer for it and various other reasons that they are not including compiz in wheezy |
| 00:10.02 | KsM | Is there a page I can see the various other reasons |
| 00:10.04 | somiaj | look up the mailing list/bts for the full rational. But they may bring it back in jessi |
| 00:10.15 | somiaj | but it is mostly no matainer. |
| 00:10.26 | KsM | Can anyone jump in and maintain it |
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| 00:12.25 | somiaj | yes and no |
| 00:12.36 | somiaj | you do have to pass some loops to become a debian matainer |
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| 00:12.55 | somiaj | but once you do that you can matain the packages you want |
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| 00:16.09 | KsM | Meh. fresh install and I can't use the window manager I had all my settings set up for |
| 00:16.31 | KsM | somiaj: can I just compile the sources with checkinstall and do an unofficial maintainance or something |
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| 00:17.17 | somiaj | KsM: you are welcome to do what you want on your own system. So yea just complie the source and put it in /usr/local, use stow or make your own package |
| 00:17.38 | somiaj | you can grab the package from squeeze. I think it almost works |
| 00:17.47 | somiaj | but you may have to tweak things a bit |
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| 00:23.27 | KsM | just a question of curiousity, would packages made with checkinstall be accepted, I think I read before that checkinstall doesn't completely fill out everything but can make a simple .deb for you |
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| 00:25.10 | somiaj | I don't know checkinstall |
| 00:25.25 | daym0n | dpkg -i haxorurcomputer.deb |
| 00:25.26 | dpkg | removes a speen from daym0n and replaces it with haxorurcomputer.deb |
| 00:25.32 | somiaj | but yea on yer system the advantage of making a simple package is to allow manging install/removing the software with dpkg |
| 00:25.50 | somiaj | as opposed to having it sit in /usr/local with maybe no uninstall scripts (but stow can take care of that for you if you use it) |
| 00:26.16 | somiaj | I use dh_make and debian tools to make the package |
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| 00:27.01 | somiaj | oh checkinstall seems to be another way to manage source installs. Just make sure you install in /usr/local (as dpkg packages shoudln't mess with stuff there so you won't overwrite/have conflicts that way) |
| 00:27.09 | KsM | yeah I read dh_make was better and did whatever checkinstall might now have done |
| 00:27.26 | KsM | *might not have done |
| 00:27.46 | somiaj | again I use to just use 'make install' and keep the source around for 'make uninstall' though not all sources have uninstall |
| 00:28.01 | somiaj | its a mater of how you want to admin your system |
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| 00:36.00 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 00:36.09 | lenswipe | anyone know of any good utils for virus scanning a winshit drive? |
| 00:36.21 | somiaj | I use to use clamav I belive |
| 00:36.33 | lenswipe | okay |
| 00:36.35 | somiaj | seems to still be in the repos |
| 00:36.42 | lenswipe | just clamav <mountpoint> ? |
| 00:36.57 | somiaj | basically, read the man page. I forget if I needed to use any flags |
| 00:37.00 | lenswipe | mkay |
| 00:37.27 | somiaj | looks like there is a clamtk if you want a gui |
| 00:37.41 | lenswipe | cool |
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| 00:38.13 | tim_flatus | Once again solved sound issues by removing pulseaudio. |
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| 00:38.45 | somiaj | tim_flatus: never liked sounds daemons and the likes. They just to implement some of the advanced features in alsa |
| 00:39.05 | tim_flatus | I get much better sound quality without it |
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| 00:39.27 | somiaj | yea I sometimes wish I had the switching sound cards on the fly feature of pulseaudio though. But stick with alsa and just deal with it |
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| 00:41.04 | tim_flatus | I guess running without it does require being able to configure alsa, but that's not so difficult these days. |
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| 00:41.52 | tim_flatus | As a 'serious' musician, it's one of my biggest reservations about gnome. |
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| 00:43.43 | k00n | pulseaudio has been a pain to deal with, i'll admit, but it is the single solitary thing that can get my microphone to work :-\ i know if i spent some time and figured out sound-on-linux, i might be able to get my sound capture to work without pulse, but it works now and i am afraid to touch it! |
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| 00:45.12 | tim_flatus | I don't entirely understand why it is necessary to have several layers of sound servers. But I guess it has its uses. |
| 00:45.17 | dbelange | k00n: use gentoo noob |
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| 00:47.57 | tim_flatus | I know it's possible to disable pulseaudio on a per-user basis - and that would mean I can use apt-get auto-remove again. |
| 00:49.40 | k00n | dbelange: hah i probably should |
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| 00:58.00 | tim_flatus | Still no video, but that's because I'm booting with nouveau.noaccel=1 - so time to look at workaround 3. |
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| 01:11.43 | Some_Person | I'm trying to install debian onto a somewhat older machine (P3 laptop), but the installer seems to get stuck at "Detect network hardware" |
| 01:11.56 | gnarface | how long did you wait? |
| 01:12.10 | Some_Person | 10 minutes |
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| 01:12.43 | abrotman | is the cable plugged in/. |
| 01:12.45 | abrotman | ? |
| 01:13.11 | Some_Person | abrotman: Why should it need a net connection to install? |
| 01:13.31 | gnarface | suspects hardware failure actually |
| 01:13.32 | lenswipe | Some_Person, might be a network install |
| 01:13.36 | Some_Person | it's not |
| 01:13.40 | abrotman | it doesn't depending ont the image |
| 01:13.40 | lenswipe | agrees with gnarface |
| 01:13.46 | Some_Person | debian-6.0.6-i386-xfce+lxde-CD-1 |
| 01:13.50 | lenswipe | k |
| 01:13.51 | Some_Person | 647 MB |
| 01:13.52 | gnarface | Some_Person: any chance you can try a different network device? |
| 01:13.56 | abrotman | Some_Person: the easier way is to unplug the cabl |
| 01:13.58 | abrotman | cable |
| 01:14.01 | Some_Person | gnarface: I didn't choose one to begin with |
| 01:14.02 | lenswipe | and a different image |
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| 01:14.34 | lenswipe | i had a bad image that wouldn't install |
| 01:14.37 | dioz | gnome-control-c[3668]: segfault at ffffffffa444e475 ip 00007f57f381f920 sp 00007fff37ae1b88 error 4 in libc-2.13.so[7f57f3702000+17d000] |
| 01:14.42 | lenswipe | i downloaded a new copy and it worked no problem |
| 01:14.45 | gnarface | Some_Person: no i mean i'm suggesting you plug in a pcmcia card that you know works and has drivers in the installer |
| 01:15.00 | Some_Person | gnarface: Why should I even need a network connection? |
| 01:15.07 | Some_Person | And I don't have any PCMCIA ethernet cards |
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| 01:15.11 | dioz | gnome-shell[2855]: segfault at 35 ip 00007ffbc5bb88c5 sp 00007fffd53e3988 error 4 in libc-2.13.so[7ffbc5a9b000+17d000] |
| 01:15.17 | Some_Person | I could try removing the wifi card I guess |
| 01:15.20 | dioz | does that mean there's something wrong with my libc ? |
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| 01:15.43 | gnarface | Some_Person: well i can't tell you why you'd need a network connection. just skip it for all i care |
| 01:15.51 | Some_Person | gnarface: How do I skip it? |
| 01:16.04 | gnarface | Some_Person: you're not installing in expert mode? |
| 01:16.10 | Some_Person | no? |
| 01:16.15 | gnarface | try it |
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| 01:21.01 | DMJC | trying to install debian onto intel Z68 raid1 |
| 01:21.14 | DMJC | anyone know howto do this? I'm using the goodbye-windows.com method |
| 01:22.44 | Some_Person | crap, now it's failing to resize the existing ntfs partition |
| 01:23.08 | Some_Person | thanks for the tip about expert mode though |
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| 01:23.20 | gnarface | no problem |
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| 01:27.36 | nag | Linux 2.6.32-5-sparc64-smp sparc64 -- success. |
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| 01:28.52 | gnarface | nice |
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| 01:35.00 | derric | Why does debian use fake root and make-kpkg instead of just using make deb-pkg? |
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| 01:35.11 | derric | When building kernels of course. |
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| 01:35.54 | DMJC | any idea why the debian installer shell can access my intel raid but the installer itself can't detect the drives? |
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| 01:36.42 | DMJC | just trying to install on a raid1 |
| 01:36.58 | acu | is anything wrong with wheezy with printing ? I tried 3 hp inkjet printers and they seem not to print anything - though it seem that the jobs are spooled ? |
| 01:37.44 | gnarface | acu: probably. check the bug tracker |
| 01:38.04 | gnarface | DMJC: maybe its fake raid? |
| 01:38.11 | DMJC | it is a fakeraid |
| 01:38.13 | acu | bugtracker ! |
| 01:38.19 | DMJC | how do you make linux detect it? |
| 01:38.33 | DMJC | the drive appears in the installer shell for debian |
| 01:38.33 | gnarface | DMJC: use software raid |
| 01:38.41 | DMJC | but the installer itself hasn't got a way to access it |
| 01:38.48 | acu | !raid |
| 01:38.49 | dpkg | Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks (RAID) is a system of multiple hard drives for sharing or replicating data. Ask me about RAID{0-5}, <software raid>, <fakeraid>, <megaraid>, <raid-resizing>, <rocketraid>. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels http://wiki.debian.org/LinuxRaidForAdmins |
| 01:39.16 | DMJC | !software raid |
| 01:39.16 | dpkg | "Multidisk Device" (MD) is commonly used to describe the software <RAID> facilities available in the Linux kernel. To establish a software RAID array at Debian installation time, see section 6.3.3.4 of the <install guide>. See also <mdadm>. http://wiki.debian.org/SoftwareRAID http://linux.yyz.us/why-software-raid.html http://raid.wiki.kernel.org/ |
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| 01:40.51 | DMJC | yeah I need dmraid |
| 01:41.44 | DMJC | I'm using 2 3tb hdds in raid1 with windows7/debian |
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| 01:48.10 | KsM | I have multiarch-support and binutils-multiarch installed but I still can't run 32bit executables |
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| 01:48.27 | KsM | running debian wheezy amd64 |
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| 01:53.08 | ashley_w | DMJC: first link i found for "dual-booting fakeraid" says you have to install linux first. |
| 01:53.34 | DMJC | ashley_w: haven't installed either OS yet |
| 01:53.45 | DMJC | I've got windows on another drive I was using to bootstrap debian |
| 01:54.00 | ashley_w | ah, well, that's good |
| 01:54.13 | tryy3 | 'bash: dpkg-reconfigure: command not found' can anyone help me please? |
| 01:54.28 | gnarface | tryy3: as root |
| 01:54.42 | ashley_w | i have my system on a single SSD, and then a raid1 for /home and other stuff |
| 01:54.49 | tryy3 | gnarface ah :P |
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| 02:01.06 | nsadmin | tryy3, some of the executables intended for root only are in /sbin or /usr/sbin, and those two executable dirs are set up to be in root's path but not plain user's path |
| 02:01.21 | KsM | nsadmin help? |
| 02:01.27 | tryy3 | nsadmin oh |
| 02:02.50 | nsadmin | KsM, lotsa folks can help. explain your situation in as much detail as possible... maybe once you do that, -you- can fix it |
| 02:03.06 | KsM | 03:48.10 < KsM> I have multiarch-support and binutils-multiarch installed but I still can't run 32bit executables |
| 02:03.13 | Some_Person | should I use the 486 or 686 kernel on a P3? |
| 02:03.17 | KsM | Debian wheezy amd64 |
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| 02:03.47 | gnarface | Some_Person: 686 |
| 02:04.08 | Some_Person | gnarface: thank you |
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| 02:06.53 | BSmaxScript[Maxi | vener sur irc-attitude.net ou sur le site http://www.irc-attitude.net/ |
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| 02:08.35 | tabakhase | hm, http://man.he.net/man5/authorized_keys "AuthorizedKeysFile specifies the file containing public keys for public key authentication; if none is specified, the default is ~/.ssh/authorized_keys." - but somehow no, the default is "nothing" so its disabled by default - debian fail/special or manual fail? |
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| 02:14.24 | nsadmin | one curiousity, which 32b executables do you need? why does aptitude fail to install the proper libs? |
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| 02:14.36 | gnarface | tabakhase: user error; cannot reproduce |
| 02:15.08 | gnarface | tabakhase: most the time this is because your permissions are wrong or your key format is wrong |
| 02:15.38 | tabakhase | gnarface so youre saying he eats your authorized_keys withou commenting out the AuthorizedKeysFile-line? |
| 02:15.46 | gnarface | tabakhase: also you know... just fyi bad idea to use unofficial documentation sources |
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| 02:17.48 | gnarface | tabakhase: yes that is what i'm saying. my AuthorizedKeysFile line is already commented out by default. |
| 02:18.28 | krababbel | Can you chroot again from a chroot? |
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| 02:18.57 | tabakhase | hm, okay, so it will be another "real" problem thanks |
| 02:19.37 | darkelfjuggalo | I asked this in #ubuntu, but seems the only person that would help me there was run off by someone else... SO... I'll ask here: I did md5sum on ubuntu-12.04.1-dvd-amd64.iso but I can't find some documentation telling me what the md5sum should me to verify... the md5sum.txt doesn't list the iso as a whole, just the individual component's in it |
| 02:19.47 | KsM | nsadmin: some precompiled things I have |
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| 02:20.17 | gnarface | darkelfjuggalo: we don't know and we don't care |
| 02:20.47 | nsadmin | ok, howbout run ldd on them and see what they need |
| 02:20.59 | ashley_w | darkelfjuggalo: download it again, and compare the sums |
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| 02:21.50 | nsadmin | also do you have source for them? |
| 02:22.23 | gnarface | tabakhase: i suspect its either user error or sabotage |
| 02:22.38 | darkelfjuggalo | ashley_w but if both are corrupt in the same way will that do me any good? |
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| 02:23.15 | ashley_w | then you're screwed. i don't know what kind of magic you're looking for. |
| 02:23.37 | KsM | blah, nsadmin, blah, I installed libc6-i386 now some of them work |
| 02:23.50 | KsM | What's the apt command to find what packages install what files |
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| 02:24.24 | darkelfjuggalo | gnarface, what is your problem today/night? |
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| 02:24.52 | nsadmin | you mean "given package 'xyz' what is its list of files"? |
| 02:25.08 | darkelfjuggalo | ashley_w I've been dealing with this and Debian ISOs for 64-Bit for a day and a half... |
| 02:25.31 | tabakhase | gnarface but i can reproduce it... without that line hes not accepting the file (no errormessages or such, auth_keysfile is 644 for root) |
| 02:25.45 | KsM | I was sort of thinking the reverse, "out of all packages, which of them install xyz file" |
| 02:26.09 | darkelfjuggalo | ashley_w ; iso's that pass the checksum fail to even be found by the harddrive |
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| 02:26.51 | gnarface | tabakhase: yea that doesn't sound right to me |
| 02:26.55 | ag4ve | any recommendations to keep my user configs synced up? something like a git repo with different branches for each server that tries to merge with master and remembers the choice on each login? |
| 02:27.08 | nsadmin | KsM, apt-file |
| 02:27.49 | gnarface | tabakhase: if its world readable i'm surprised it even works when you manually specify it in the config |
| 02:28.04 | gnarface | tabakhase: that file is supposed to only be readable by the user |
| 02:28.10 | ag4ve | ... nfs and the like won't work because i want a few lines of a few configs to be different but generally i want the same configs ... and it's annoying when things i think i've fixed work differently and i have to git pull again |
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| 02:29.21 | tabakhase | gnarface not my file, no blame on me ;D but hm, "nonspecified" enforcing stricter rules than when you "force the path" cold explain that... ill try that |
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| 02:30.50 | gnarface | tabakhase: ~/.ssh should be 0700 and ~/.ssh/authorized_files should be 0600 and they should both be owner:group of their own user |
| 02:31.09 | tabakhase | gnarface sure sure, not my box |
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| 02:33.41 | tabakhase | gnarface hm, without the Auth... line and with 744 its still working fine - so seems my m8 just been unable to configure his terminal correctly, damn naps ;D |
| 02:34.52 | gnarface | tabakhase: regardless of whatever has happend to this clearly non-standard install, the permissions should still be 700 and 600 for basic security. |
| 02:35.05 | gnarface | tabakhase: additionally; 744 is nonsensical |
| 02:35.26 | tabakhase | *644 for sure |
| 02:35.29 | tabakhase | not a folder |
| 02:36.17 | tabakhase | and what happend? bash_hist says mkdir .ssh; toch .ssh/authorized_keys and then sftp-subsystem |
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| 02:37.19 | bnw | Why is flashplugin-nonfree suggested removing my opera browser? |
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| 02:38.40 | bnw | I don't think opera is conflicting flashplugin-nonfree, because I am using a local one with opera. |
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| 02:39.46 | tabakhase | Lesson learned: always try everything on your own and trust nobody when they say "it dosnt work"... |
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| 02:42.30 | bnw | I just has no clue what to try. |
| 02:43.31 | becker_11 | Hi I've been struggling with th URxvt*geometry setting I'm trying to set it too 140*40 but it appears to only be changing the terminals position on the screen not the size of the terminal itself |
| 02:43.35 | becker_11 | Any suggestions |
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| 02:44.15 | becker_11 | Running openbox should I maybe set the terminal size in rc.xml |
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| 02:53.04 | calrogman | becker_11: have you xrdb -merge'd your .Xdefaults recently? |
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| 02:54.22 | becker_11 | calrogman: after every modification |
| 02:54.35 | calrogman | just checking :) |
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| 03:07.21 | mparodi | do you know any app to do diagrams like this one? http://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/files/userfiles/10/image/network/TCP/tcpStateDiagram1.gif |
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| 03:41.12 | JoeSomebody | hello, i am trying to install your live cd for the first time, was doing ok up until mirrors |
| 03:41.19 | JoeSomebody | they are all failing |
| 03:41.40 | JoeSomebody | i am in canada |
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| 03:47.09 | funyun | hi. can someone help me create an .iso image file of a DVD folder with debian? |
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| 03:58.53 | gnarface | funyun: try dvdauthor ? |
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| 04:00.17 | funyun | gnarface: no. how can i create iso's with dvdauthor? |
| 04:00.30 | funyun | gnarface: i used it to create the VIDEO_TS dir |
| 04:00.45 | gnarface | funyun: i dunno all i did was: apt-cache search ^dvd |
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| 04:02.02 | lukas_ | hey whenever i go to to youtube.com chomium says page unresponsive |
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| 04:03.26 | lukas_ | hello |
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| 04:04.10 | lukas_ | hey whenever i go to to youtube.com chomium says page unresponsive |
| 04:05.56 | lukas_ | brb |
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| 04:12.23 | dlynes | Is it possible to write packages that install from source and automatically compile and install themselves so that I can later do an apt-get remove on them? |
| 04:12.43 | gnarface | lukas_: did you try any other browsers? did you try pinging it? |
| 04:12.52 | becker_11 | How can I report a bug in Iceweasel? It was around in v15 & it's still there in v16 |
| 04:12.59 | dlynes | I'm asking, because I want to have drivers that install and automatically build against whatever version of the kernel the user has installed |
| 04:13.13 | gnarface | dlynes: sure, why not? its possible to write packages that can do anything you can do in a script |
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| 04:13.58 | gnarface | dlynes: you should know this is a solved problem already though. don't reinvent a wooden wheel; just use module-assistant or dkms or something like that |
| 04:13.58 | dlynes | gnarface, so iow, I do a regular package, and then do a make && make install as part of the postinstall script? |
| 04:14.21 | gnarface | dlynes: yea sure you could do that but like i said; there are better solutions in the wild |
| 04:14.57 | dlynes | gnarface, I was actually wanting to use something like dkms as I understand that's what ubuntu uses for its X11 driver updates, but I haven't haven't been able to find a good tutorial that tells how to use it |
| 04:15.16 | gnarface | dlynes: yea well if you find one send me a link too :) |
| 04:15.48 | dlynes | gnarface, I'm wanting to do driver updates for Intel's gigabit and 10G network cards, and NVidia video drivers |
| 04:16.35 | dlynes | gnarface, I don't really want to distribute binary drivers, because a few changes in someone's kernel configuration will fubar that |
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| 04:21.14 | gnarface | dlynes: yes as far as i know both module-assistant and dkms seem to be solutions to address exactly that issue but that is just about all i know about them, sorry. maybe module-assistant has better documentation and will solve the same purpose essentially? |
| 04:21.43 | gnarface | dlynes: i mean, dkms is probably more elegant but there are such things as source packages and there are tools that work with them |
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| 04:29.25 | cetra | hello, any ideas how to encrypt a debian root filesystem after instalation? |
| 04:30.34 | dlynes | gnarface, thanks for the tips. It's much appreciated. |
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| 04:39.00 | gnarface | dlynes: no problem. good luck. |
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| 04:40.24 | dlynes | gnarface, yeah...for now, I'm just doing a binary install, but i'm hoping to replace it with a dkms-style install |
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| 04:54.09 | funyun | hi. is anyone familiar with dvdauthor? |
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| 05:17.40 | chovy | funyun: i used to use it |
| 05:17.46 | chovy | been a couple of years though |
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| 05:18.46 | Ehtyar | hey guys. does anyone know how the 'from' address in forwarded mail is composed? my box is using root@debian which is being rejected by the receiving mail server for obvious reasons |
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| 05:24.43 | tabakhase | Ehtyar /etc/mailname is a first shot |
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| 05:25.01 | tabakhase | more in the configfile of the mta youre using |
| 05:25.26 | Ehtyar | oh thank you tabakhase, that's been driving me nuts |
| 05:25.31 | Ehtyar | really appreciate it |
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| 05:56.59 | peterrooney | what can cause update-grub to notice a freshly debootstrapped partition, yet not add it to /boot/grub/grub.cfg ? |
| 05:58.50 | Ehtyar | now that i test it |
| 05:58.55 | Ehtyar | itdoesn't appear to work |
| 05:59.00 | Ehtyar | i've changed it and rebooted |
| 05:59.03 | Ehtyar | no glory |
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| 06:35.14 | cetra | what's the default task sheudler on CID? |
| 06:35.17 | cetra | SID |
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| 06:43.19 | jagginess | default task scheduler for sid is on being really really bad boy |
| 06:43.29 | jagginess | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
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| 06:43.37 | jagginess | !sid |
| 06:43.38 | dpkg | hmm... sid is the codename for <unstable>, named after the kid in Toy Story that breaks toys. The great thing about running sid is that, when it breaks you get to keep ALL the pieces!! |
| 06:43.53 | EasyAsPie | hi |
| 06:43.54 | jagginess | gives all the pieces to cetra |
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| 06:47.46 | cetra | i'm asking because i'm compiling a custom vanilla kernel for sid and i need to know |
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| 06:51.31 | ectospasm | I have a problem with sound. I'm running Debian sid/unstable. My audio quality is poor *on some tracks*. I have an HTPC connected to a Samsung TV via HDMI (both video and sound). I'm listening to music in VLC (the media files exist on my NAS connected through NFS via Gigabit Ethernet). When it switches to the next track, there's a chance the audio is marred by static/electronic noise (undesirable for |
| 06:51.33 | ectospasm | mostly classical music), though not totally unintelligible. If I stop the track and replay, the problem *may* go away. If it doesn't go away, lowering the audio volume in pavucontrol seems to help as well. But the problem eventually comes back, but ONLY when the track changes (once it's gone during a track it DOES NOT come back). Is it just my crappy TV speakers? Adjusting the volume at the TV level does |
| 06:51.35 | ectospasm | NOT help. |
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| 06:53.02 | cetra | scheduler* |
| 06:53.49 | ectospasm | I blew up my AV receiver, and I haven't been able to afford a new one (much to my chagrin, it's low on the priority list) |
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| 06:57.21 | anddam | can I remove all packages installed due to a tasksel option? |
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| 07:12.15 | FGH` | how do i know if i have squeeze or lenny |
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| 07:13.41 | ansik | FGH`: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 07:13.41 | anddam | FGH`: try cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 07:14.36 | FGH` | oke one more question i had to recompile the r8168 driver |
| 07:14.45 | dreamon_ | morning. Is there a network-manager for console out there? want to connect to wep at startup. I dont use any gui. |
| 07:15.53 | streuner_ | dreamon_: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
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| 07:21.09 | dreamon_ | streuner_, I know there is a network-manager for console out there. but forgoten its name. coulnt find it, in your wiki, too. |
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| 07:23.42 | streuner_ | dreamon_: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line |
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| 07:24.32 | streuner_ | dreamon_: its called <interfaces>, its mentioned there too |
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| 07:35.27 | anddam | anything bad in getting a task's packages list and passing it to 'aptitude remove'? |
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| 07:38.51 | Red_M | anyone know how to clear the DNS cache? |
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| 07:44.49 | peterrooney | anddam: only if there's a package in that task you actually want. afterwards, depending on your aptitude config, you may want to run apt-get autoremove |
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| 07:45.41 | peterrooney | wonders why aptitude changed apt-get's autoremove feature to strictly a configuration-file-option |
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| 07:49.06 | shicy | hello :) |
| 07:49.06 | dreamon_ | streuner_, Thanks. I tried it. Worked. now I have to go on to learn how to make it connect at boottime ;) Merci |
| 07:49.25 | shicy | i've tried to install debian on machine with ati radeon hd 3450 |
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| 07:50.18 | shicy | and, no matter if i install with xserver and with DE or without X and DE, it won't start |
| 07:50.20 | shicy | :) |
| 07:50.23 | shicy | :( |
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| 07:52.42 | shicy | i've tried to install squeeze and wheezy, and neither worked :( |
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| 07:58.25 | anddam | peterrooney: there isn't AFAICT, I just found out that a few tasks are installed on this supposedly fresh installed squeeze VM |
| 07:58.56 | anddam | peterrooney: I thought either reinstall from netinstall or try to clean the installed system from unwanted tasks |
| 07:59.09 | anddam | since it's Sunday I'm trying the tasks removal |
| 07:59.41 | anddam | actually using the package list from tasksel gave a lot of unmet deps |
| 07:59.48 | anddam | I purged "gnome" |
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| 08:02.46 | anddam | I had to add packages like libapache2-mod-dnssd, gnome-desktop-environment and gnome-accessibility to the list in order to not have an apt conflict |
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| 08:13.13 | mah454 | Hello |
| 08:13.20 | mah454 | make-kpkg command add "Custom" string to package name |
| 08:13.22 | mah454 | How can remove it ? |
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| 08:14.01 | mah454 | for example : linux-image-3.2.18.030320_10.00.Custom_i386.deb |
| 08:14.12 | mah454 | I need remove Custom |
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| 08:14.21 | jagginess | !make-kpkg |
| 08:14.21 | dpkg | i guess make-kpkg is the tool that you use for compiling the kernel the Debian Way (tm). It makes a package for your custom kernel which you can install and remove easily using dpkg. See http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.html , man make-kpkg and ask me about <kernel compile> <kp mantra> <kernel build-deps>. |
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| 08:14.33 | jagginess | mah454, rtfm, you'll have to redo it :) |
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| 08:32.25 | shicy | sorry folks, has anybody answered on my question? |
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| 08:41.35 | Zvpun | How can I get a list of all installed packeges of debian-multimedia.org? |
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| 08:44.59 | shicy | Zvpun, you don't need debian-multimedia.org ;) |
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| 08:45.25 | shicy | i mean, you don't need it in sources.list ;) |
| 08:45.28 | Zvpun | shicy: you know, does that answer my question? |
| 08:45.48 | Zvpun | because I appreciate your will to help but question the helpfullness |
| 08:46.09 | Chousuke | looks like you want the ~O search pattern in aptitude (for origin) |
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| 08:46.17 | Zvpun | thank you very much Sir. |
| 08:46.19 | Chousuke | http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html see here |
| 08:46.31 | shicy | sorry Zvpun |
| 08:46.40 | Zvpun | no problem Sir |
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| 08:48.09 | helmut | hi. is there a way to view pdfs inside iceweasel on wheezy? |
| 08:48.18 | brian98 | Hello people |
| 08:48.19 | brian98 | I |
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| 08:50.20 | AimHere | helmut, there is the (spit) Adobe Acrobat plugin, which is obviously nonfree |
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| 08:50.52 | helmut | AimHere: so adobe is the only pdf viewer that managed to be embeddable??? |
| 08:50.58 | AimHere | 'apt-cache search pdf|grep plugin' also throws up kpartsplugin |
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| 08:51.16 | AimHere | How exactly that works, I don't know |
| 08:51.27 | brian98 | someone with mdadm knowledge help me? |
| 08:51.42 | brian98 | the sda drive failed in a server. |
| 08:51.55 | helmut | brian98: maybe ask a specific question? |
| 08:52.06 | Zitter | hi, I'm reading here how to install Redis on Squeeze: http://library.linode.com/databases/redis/debian-6-squeeze In tutorial it is suggested to compile redis from source, but now I've seen that it is available also from APT, but version it is a bit old (1.2 from APT, 2.3 current release). Is it a matter of versioning, then? Is it better compile from source or use some backport pkg? |
| 08:52.11 | brian98 | I've installed a new drive and copied the partitions from sdb |
| 08:52.25 | brian98 | the server won't boot. |
| 08:52.32 | helmut | AimHere: hm. yeah. I discovered that package as well. I was hoping for more like evince. |
| 08:52.32 | brian98 | I think I need to install grub on the new drive. |
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| 08:52.50 | helmut | brian98: yeah. if sda failed, most likely it had your boot loader |
| 08:52.50 | brian98 | grub-install /dev/sda |
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| 08:53.21 | brian98 | ok |
| 08:53.26 | AimHere | helmut > mozplugger seems promising |
| 08:53.31 | brian98 | I get /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?). |
| 08:53.37 | helmut | AimHere: I asked for wheezy. |
| 08:53.58 | brian98 | I'm a bit stuck.. |
| 08:54.04 | AimHere | Fair enough, I'm just apt-caching on sid |
| 08:54.09 | helmut | brian98: what system are you currently running? |
| 08:54.20 | helmut | brian98: some rescue system? look at the output of mount |
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| 08:54.45 | helmut | AimHere: mozplugger did all I wanted, but it was declared rc buggy. |
| 08:54.53 | brian98 | I'm in hetzner debian rescue |
| 08:54.55 | brian98 | running 6.0.5 |
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| 08:55.11 | brian98 | the actual system is an ubuntu 12.04 server. |
| 08:55.21 | helmut | brian98: so most likely you'll have to create a chroot of your partitions and invoke grub-install from the chroot |
| 08:55.30 | helmut | brian98: or you need to specify the boot directory |
| 08:55.36 | brian98 | so |
| 08:55.50 | brian98 | boot is md1 |
| 08:56.05 | helmut | then mount md1 somewhere and passthat somewhere as --boot-directory |
| 08:56.07 | Chousuke | if you chroot, remember to bind-mount /dev etc inside the chroot |
| 08:56.10 | Chousuke | then it should work |
| 08:56.27 | brian98 | ok. |
| 08:56.28 | helmut | or follow Chousuke and go for chroot (which might be easier) |
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| 08:57.00 | brian98 | Thanks for pointers. |
| 08:57.36 | brian98 | if I just mount /md1 in /mnt and specify /mnt as boot |
| 08:57.45 | brian98 | do i run install-grub to /dev/sda |
| 08:58.03 | helmut | 0x7fff3e4dd000, yw |
| 08:58.16 | brian98 | or grub-install even |
| 08:58.46 | helmut | brian98: mount /dev/md1 /mnt; grub-install --boot-directory /mnt /dev/sda |
| 08:58.53 | brian98 | ok |
| 08:59.07 | brian98 | Thank you Helmut |
| 08:59.08 | helmut | brian98: but double check that against the manpage |
| 08:59.13 | brian98 | course |
| 08:59.15 | brian98 | thanks again. |
| 08:59.18 | helmut | brian98: I'm not responsible for your data loss, if it breaks. |
| 08:59.25 | brian98 | of course. |
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| 09:05.25 | Zvpun | The documentation of ~O says it looks at the origin, does a package have a origin field? How can I see the origin field? I tried "apt-cache show package" but there was no origin, so what does ?origin(foo) actually search? |
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| 09:08.22 | quentin | hi, fglrx no long supports my graphics card so I'm trying to purge it in order to be able to use radeon. Unfortunately; this is what I get: http://paste.debian.net/200221/ |
| 09:08.47 | quentin | when trying to install it again I have the same kind of error, but it says that it's "half-installed" |
| 09:08.53 | quentin | anything I can do to debug this issue? |
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| 09:14.55 | Chousuke | quentin: are you logged into a graphical session? I suppose that might interfere with the uninstallation |
| 09:16.16 | Chousuke | you can also look in /var/log/dpkg.log for clues I suppose |
| 09:16.22 | quentin | I'm using vesa currently and did that in a console, but did not try to stop my graphical session first |
| 09:16.27 | quentin | will do, thanks |
| 09:20.11 | Chousuke | If you can't get the driver uninstalled you should at least be able to use radeon by switching glx to mesa (update-alternatives --config glx), blacklisting the fglrx driver and removing the radeon blacklist from /etc/modprobe.d/ |
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| 09:21.27 | brian98 | helmut: ok so now the server boots |
| 09:21.29 | Chousuke | there's also a fglrx-legacy driver in experimental if you need better power management :P |
| 09:21.35 | brian98 | but it boots to a rescue> prompt! |
| 09:21.44 | brian98 | I think I didn't get this quite right. |
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| 09:22.01 | Chousuke | but if you want things to just work painlessly (excepting PM), radeon is the best bet. |
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| 09:22.47 | quentin | Chousuke: dpkg.log doesn't say anything more, so I'll try blacklisting and switching glx :) |
| 09:24.00 | quentin | I have the same laptop (but on sid, not testing) where everything works fine and fglrx-driver is correctly uninstalled |
| 09:24.19 | quentin | and indeed, PM is quite a pain, but at lest it works :) |
| 09:25.05 | Chousuke | in my case fglrx allows my laptop to run about 10-15 degrees cooler, but... suspend won't work |
| 09:25.33 | Chousuke | and it can't drive the external display at full resolution. so I'm stuck on radeon, having to endure a noisy fan. |
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| 09:26.43 | Chousuke | I'm looking forward to PM improvements, as it seems some foundational work has been done |
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| 09:27.52 | quentin | using ForceLowPowerMode and DynamicPM helped a lot (thanks to babilen who is sometimes here) |
| 09:28.22 | quentin | (and thanks for mentioning fglrx-legacy-driver, I didn't know about it) |
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| 09:28.50 | Chousuke | dynpm hasn't helped me much. even with reduced clock speeds it only drops the temperature by at most 5 degrees |
| 09:28.59 | Chousuke | and it doesn't work with an external display |
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| 09:32.19 | Chousuke | for some reason, it seems I can't even force the GPU to underclock using the "low" profile. |
| 09:32.42 | Chousuke | even with the external display detached it seems to have no effect |
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| 09:35.50 | Chousuke | I should take the laptop apart and clean any dust out, anyway :/ it's probably pretty clogged. |
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| 09:36.39 | quentin | :) |
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| 09:37.51 | desgaribau | Good morning, I'm desgaribau from Italy |
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| 09:49.19 | nmschulte | For some reason, when I power off my machine after having booted Debian Wheezy, my USB mouse stays illuminated. |
| 09:49.40 | nmschulte | The only way to get it to turn off is by starting and stopping the PC before it boots, or draining power from the PSU. |
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| 09:49.57 | nmschulte | My keyboard is USB as well, but it doesn't stay illuminated like my mouse. Any ideas? |
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| 09:55.45 | pclov3r | somebdoy want to help me with xorg? |
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| 09:56.34 | pclov3r | I ran Xorg -configure |
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| 09:57.19 | pclov3r | had a refusal to load so i added nomodeset to the boot param but it locks up when i get to the GUI |
| 09:57.26 | pclov3r | any ideas? |
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| 10:00.08 | pclov3r | The goal is I want to configure my displays |
| 10:00.16 | pclov3r | I have two video cards and a display on each video card. |
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| 10:07.19 | Infiltrator | pclov3r: Can we see your xorg.conf, please? |
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| 10:09.34 | pclov3r | give me a minute |
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| 10:10.35 | pclov3r | need to re-geernate it |
| 10:10.37 | pclov3r | brb |
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| 10:15.08 | bazhang | hi |
| 10:15.09 | bizoo | hi |
| 10:15.16 | bazhang | bizoo, hi |
| 10:15.16 | bizoo | bizoo, hi |
| 10:15.33 | Armand | ...? |
| 10:15.34 | bizoo | ...? |
| 10:15.46 | Armand | Thought so |
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| 10:17.50 | Penix | wenas |
| 10:17.57 | pclov3r | http://pastebin.com/f6fZd6Ne this is the xorg.conf it made me |
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| 10:19.11 | Zvpun | I was told to use "aptitude search ?origin(...)" to search for debian multimedia packages, but I don't know how to give the name: I tried debian-multimedi, debian-multimedia.org, www.debian-multimedia.org, http://debian-multimedia.org, and everytime the result set is empty. How can I find a list of packages installed from debian-multimedia.org? |
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| 10:22.17 | pclov3r | http://pastebin.com/i9VXieVw this is the error it gives me at the bottom |
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| 10:25.49 | mczhb | hi there. mdadm removed one hdd out of my raid1. Where does it tell me why? smartctl says everything is OK |
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| 10:26.25 | Bert_2 | Hi, our apache is being overrun with spambots trying to reach a site we no longer host (because it was not safe and constantly spammed), now is there somewhere a decent, trustworthy list of IPs I can block using iptables? |
| 10:26.57 | pclov3r | Any ideas? |
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| 10:27.19 | MaddinXx | I know about mod-spamhaus or fail2ban which has built in / predefined filter for spambots |
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| 10:28.44 | themill | Bert_2: you can teach fail2ban to turn certain error messages (via regexp) into iptables rules |
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| 10:29.00 | MaddinXx | https://github.com/fail2ban/fail2ban/blob/master/config/filter.d/apache-badbots.conf |
| 10:29.10 | Infiltrator | pclov3r: Well, what do you get when you do nomodeset? |
| 10:29.23 | pclov3r | it will boot the gui |
| 10:29.32 | pclov3r | when it starts going to the GUI |
| 10:29.34 | pclov3r | it locks up |
| 10:29.53 | pclov3r | and i cant switch to console to find out why it locked up |
| 10:29.56 | pclov3r | becuase the system locks up |
| 10:29.59 | Infiltrator | pclov3r: But I mean, can we get the xorg.log for that? |
| 10:30.01 | Bert_2 | themill: We've been thinking about that but that won't take the load off and the spammers sometimes leave half an hour in between making it hard to block them safely without having loads of false-positives, the problem mostly is it's a full botnet of some sort attacking us |
| 10:30.19 | pclov3r | one second |
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| 10:31.40 | Jubei | guys where can I see a log that tells me why bringing up a network interface fails? i go ifup eth0 and it goes "Failed to bring up eth0" and nothing on /etc/syslog |
| 10:32.13 | Jubei | nvm found the offending line |
| 10:32.30 | Jubei | but still, i think it should be giving some sort of message :/ |
| 10:32.41 | themill | Bert_2: if people are hitting a site you don't host, then a single 404 -> ban would be ok. |
| 10:32.56 | themill | Bert_2: just don't block search engine crawlers ;) |
| 10:33.33 | Infiltrator | Jubei: Nothing in dmesg? I think that's where it tells you. |
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| 11:51.52 | babilen | woshty: I guess that laptop-mode might overrides some of them if you use that |
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| 11:52.19 | babilen | woshty: Check /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf for details on its configuration (if applicable) |
| 11:52.20 | woshty | babilen: no laptop-mode installed .. i might have set the wrong apm level .. |
| 11:52.53 | babilen | *shrug* -- What did you do and what did you expect to happen? Did you verify that the settings work as expected by setting them with hdpam manually first? |
| 11:54.02 | woshty | i have a machine with squeeze: apm=254 spindown 120 .. multiple hdds, works great |
| 11:54.15 | woshty | on wheezy however, it does not |
| 11:54.31 | woshty | and the manpages says apm < 128 permits spindown |
| 11:54.51 | woshty | but it works and has been working for years on squeeze |
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| 11:55.09 | jjohnson_ | http://pastebin.com/QESBG9bP http://pastebin.com/QUDRbc2i http://pastebin.com/vwE0vu0w |
| 11:55.25 | babilen | mumbles http://paste.debian.net |
| 11:55.28 | jjohnson_ | the command display the output as pasted respectively. |
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| 11:56.57 | babilen | jjohnson_: I will not support that configuration, but your wireless looks fine. The module on testing is iwlwifi btw. |
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| 11:58.44 | jjohnson_ | ok. . i will check to see if i can get that fixed. at least the module looks loaded correctly. thanks again for help. : ) |
| 12:00.16 | babilen | jjohnson_: To make it explicit: I won't support it becausee you presumably installed a number of third-party packages that weren't even meant for Debian. Just not sure what effect that might have on your system and don't want to guess. good luck! |
| 12:00.43 | babilen | woshty: I concur (and use comparable settings here). Does it work if you set it manually with hdparm? |
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| 12:01.46 | jjohnson_ | babilen: np. really appreciate your help. : ) |
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| 12:04.39 | MySystem | hello a question in the debian install there is a option for additional packages and i think i remember a ftp server option, which ftp will be installed or other which is the default ftp server for debian |
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| 12:06.09 | babilen | MySystem: Check "tasksel --list-tasks" and "tasksel --task-packages TASK" for the task in question. Don't know it off the top of my head, but you really shouldn't use FTP anyway. (cf. "/msg dpkg ftpmustdie") |
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| 12:07.25 | babilen | MySystem: AFAIR you are given the choice of a file-server task, but not specifically ftp-server, but I might be wrong. |
| 12:08.01 | xand | someone said a naughty word :( |
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| 12:08.41 | babilen | MySystem: There is no default FTP server on Debian, but you could take a look at "/msg dpkg ftpd" after having read "/msg dpkg ftpmustdie" and the article linked therein. |
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| 12:12.56 | MySystem | ok ftpmustdie is long but i understand what he mean ftp is outdated and unsecure so my next question which protokol should i use for faster more secure file transfers via internet |
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| 12:13.19 | xand | MySystem: sftp? |
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| 12:17.11 | MySystem | ok but isnt this the same and sended tasksel and read file-server tasks which protokol does it contain |
| 12:17.56 | sphenxes | Is it possible to install squeeze on zotac nano 867? |
| 12:19.04 | xand | MySystem: come again? |
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| 12:19.34 | tim_flatus | Can anyone recommend a good place to download videos in various formats for testing whether my new install will play videos properly - I know I can't do flash. |
| 12:19.36 | xand | sphenxes: I would think so |
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| 12:19.55 | sphenxes | xand thanks |
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| 12:19.56 | nuffigel | hmm, do I have to have some "include" command in /etc/apt/sources.list in order for aptitude to parse /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ? |
| 12:20.55 | tim_flatus | I should make a collection of various different file types generally for this purpose. |
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| 12:21.06 | MySystem | ok found the packages which are provided by the tasksel file-server task only swat which i dont know the rest is online lan file transfer |
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| 12:21.37 | woshty | this is really strange, setting it to apm to 127 and the drive spins down .. am not sure whether that was apm by itself or hdparm |
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| 12:22.12 | MySystem | so sftp is the fastest and secure filetransfer protokol for internet? |
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| 12:24.46 | pclov3r | http://pastebin.com/69s7rgQX |
| 12:24.51 | pclov3r | whats wrong with my xorg.conf? |
| 12:24.58 | pclov3r | complaints about no screens |
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| 12:25.36 | lnxslck | pclov3r, why 2 scetions screen and device? |
| 12:25.55 | pclov3r | i have two video cards |
| 12:26.03 | pclov3r | i want to run a monior on each one |
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| 12:26.23 | lnxslck | pclov3r, nad you have nvidia proprietary driver installed? |
| 12:26.28 | pclov3r | yes |
| 12:26.33 | lnxslck | does lsmod |grep nvidia show something? |
| 12:27.03 | pclov3r | yes |
| 12:27.38 | pclov3r | did I do the config right? |
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| 12:29.13 | woshty | pclov3r: are you sure about all the monitor and gfk settings? |
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| 12:29.21 | woshty | gfx even |
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| 12:29.29 | gnugr | pclov3r:which is your first(main) card? |
| 12:29.42 | MySystem | babilen you said the artikel linked therein iam not the best in english and dont want to read all which artikel ? |
| 12:29.43 | pclov3r | GTX275 |
| 12:29.51 | pclov3r | or 01:00.0 |
| 12:30.40 | woshty | pclov3r: may i ask why you use two gfx cards for that? |
| 12:30.48 | pclov3r | monitor on each one |
| 12:31.46 | pclov3r | did i make a mistake on the xorg.conf? |
| 12:31.52 | pclov3r | or did i do it correctly |
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| 12:33.01 | genetix | Hello, would like to make ars of myself probably, but wanna ask why do we have 'linux + gui' and not 'linux + sandbox + network/repository at bootloader' or 'linux + choosable gui at bootloader' or do we have this kinda of CD/DVD somewhere? |
| 12:33.11 | genetix | (I do understand that I could do this at standard version and install a gui, but after a 'live' installer concept.) |
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| 12:34.02 | woshty | pclov3r: you should check the log and i use Option "PreferredMode" "1920x1080" instead of those sync settings |
| 12:34.22 | pclov3r | okay |
| 12:34.35 | pclov3r | curious why it says no screens tho? |
| 12:35.03 | woshty | pclov3r: but i still do not understand why you dont just plug both monitors in one gfx card .. |
| 12:35.16 | pclov3r | reduces load? |
| 12:35.20 | pclov3r | lol |
| 12:35.36 | pclov3r | well on my windows side i have the second card |
| 12:35.38 | pclov3r | for physx |
| 12:35.41 | pclov3r | that isn't supproted |
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| 12:35.56 | woshty | ah, k |
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| 12:36.10 | pclov3r | so did i make a mistike or no? |
| 12:36.51 | woshty | pclov3r: if it does not work, you apparently did make a mistake ;) |
| 12:36.56 | Jolein | hey all , how do i list my drives like "sda1 sda2" and so on and how do i know wich one is wich ? can i see volume size ? (trying to figure out wich one my usb is) |
| 12:36.58 | pclov3r | trying to find out where |
| 12:37.52 | woshty | pclov3r: could you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log? |
| 12:37.56 | woshty | and lspci |
| 12:38.12 | babilen | MySystem: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie <- |
| 12:39.06 | pclov3r | crap |
| 12:39.08 | pclov3r | the log file disspared |
| 12:39.25 | lnxslck | pclov3r, doesnt nvidia have an utility to auto configure graphic card? |
| 12:41.00 | pclov3r | it only |
| 12:41.06 | pclov3r | supplied my one montior |
| 12:41.24 | woshty | pclov3r: post that autoconfed xorg.conf as well :) |
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| 12:42.54 | pclov3r | http://pastebin.com/x9Y3ZTKe |
| 12:46.08 | woshty | pclov3r: hmm, no clues there |
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| 12:46.15 | pclov3r | no typos? |
| 12:46.18 | MySystem | oh ok babilen i already had a look at this |
| 12:46.27 | pclov3r | or anything i'm missing |
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| 12:48.04 | pclov3r | so |
| 12:48.07 | pclov3r | i didn't make a mistake? |
| 12:48.11 | pclov3r | is what your saying |
| 12:48.26 | crose | hello, could anyone tell me how to download subtitles from ted talks videos with gpodder 3.3.0 ? |
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| 12:49.39 | woshty | pclov3r: you should try to start your config that does not work again. it should create a new Xorg.0.log .. look for EE and WW in that file |
| 12:49.57 | pclov3r | ok |
| 12:50.08 | pclov3r | brb |
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| 12:51.02 | tim_flatus | I've installed wheezy on a metal cased 12" powerbook g4 (GeForce Go5200). Can anyone confirm that I'm not going to get flash working whatever I do? Also because I'm running with nouveau.noaccel=1 - that appears to mean I can't play any videos at all. I've just hung vlc by trying to play a DVD. |
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| 12:51.31 | xand | tim_flatus: don't believe there is any flash for linux/ppc, no |
| 12:52.27 | tim_flatus | xand: thanks, one less thing to bother configuring then. |
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| 12:54.02 | tim_flatus | I think I am going to have to try and get 3d accel working. That appears to involve creating an xorg.conf, which so far I've had little success with. |
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| 12:54.48 | zmisc | tim_flatus: Are you running Debian on that PPC machine due to the fact that recent versions of OS X dropped support? |
| 12:55.09 | tim_flatus | Not specifically. |
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| 12:56.21 | tim_flatus | zmisc: It's one of those mountains I always wanted to climb. |
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| 12:58.44 | pclov3r | Well i found a problem |
| 12:58.59 | zmisc | Ah running Linux on non-x86 hardware? |
| 12:58.59 | zmisc | tim_flatus: I can relate, I always wanted to run Linux on SPARC64 (UltraSPARC) and about 2 years ago installed Debian onto an Ultra 80 I had. |
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| 12:59.12 | tim_flatus | I assume it still uses xorg.conf - on the grounds that I've managed to break X by creating a wrong one. |
| 12:59.25 | tim_flatus | zmisc: way to go! |
| 12:59.29 | pclov3r | http://pastebin.com/ZWjmebYz |
| 12:59.55 | pclov3r | (EE) No devices detected. |
| 12:59.58 | pclov3r | is my problem |
| 13:00.45 | zmisc | tim_flatus: I sold it recently (used too much power, and isn't really worth it anymore) when you can get a box for $300 that outperforms by a factor of 10. |
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| 13:04.54 | benben159 | pclov3r, can i see your `lspci -nn` output? |
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| 13:06.55 | pclov3r | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation GT200b [GeForce GTX 275] [10de:05e6] (rev a1) |
| 13:06.57 | pclov3r | 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce 9800 G |
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| 13:07.01 | pclov3r | is the two that would matter |
| 13:07.51 | benben159 | pclov3r, are you installing driver from NVIDIA? |
| 13:08.06 | tim_flatus | pclov3r: you've tried the nv and nouveau drivers I presume? |
| 13:08.10 | pclov3r | yeah |
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| 13:08.39 | pclov3r | so is my xorg.conf correct? |
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| 13:09.22 | benben159 | i've suffered that thing on my Fedora 17 pclov3r |
| 13:09.56 | benben159 | try to uninstall the driver you've installed [from NVIDIA] |
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| 13:10.42 | tim_flatus | pclov3r: no idea, this is the first time I've had to wrestle with nVidia cards |
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| 13:12.43 | pclov3r | hum |
| 13:12.56 | pclov3r | you run into this bug benben? |
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| 13:16.08 | babilen | pclov3r: You might want to try to install the NVIDIA drivers from Debian (either from squeeze or from squeeze-backports). Creating a minimal configuration snippet (device/screen for both, maybe with pciid) for both cards in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ (e.g. 20-nvidia.conf) is probably also better than a complete xorg.conf. The driver is squeeze (195.36.31) supports both of your cards though so the one from squeeze-backports shouldn't be necessary. |
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| 13:17.07 | babilen | pclov3r: I would also like to note that the driver from nvidia is *not* supported in here, but in #nvidia ... AFAIK (but I might misremember) a problem with their driver is that it does not blacklist nouveau, but that shouldn't concern you if you install from the Debian packages. |
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| 13:18.06 | thomaschaaf | hello I am trying to run mac os x on xen and having some troubles. I have gotten it so far that I see the setup screen but my mouse and keyboard are not functioning through vnc. I am thinking of using usb passthrough to connect a keyboard via usb to the domU. Unfortunatly the computer is off site. Is there a program which emulates a usb keyboard and I could passthrough? |
| 13:18.35 | babilen | pclov3r: I would therefore install the DKMS packages from Debian (cf. "/msg dpkg nvidia dkms") and create a suitable configuration file (i.e. /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf) with minimal sections in there (only what you need to configure both cards) and take it from there. That way you stand on supported ground. Unfortunately I don't have experience with configuring two NVIDIA cards in one box on two screens, but it shouldn't be *too* hard. |
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| 13:18.55 | tim_flatus | Bah 'number of created screens does not match number of detected devices'. How do you get round that? |
| 13:19.11 | tim_flatus | That IS the basic problem I'm having. |
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| 13:21.14 | tim_flatus | Bit of a catch 22 |
| 13:21.44 | pclov3r | thanks :) |
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| 13:32.52 | woshty | now he is gone .. i think pclov3rs busid settings where just in the wrong form .. |
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| 13:41.34 | babilen | woshty: Could be (haven't checked it) and pclov3rs might come back. Who knows? |
| 13:42.07 | babilen | woshty: You might also be interested in "/msg MemoServ help" |
| 13:42.47 | woshty | babilen: thx, will check into that |
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| 13:46.56 | quentin | Chousuke: btw, simply switching glx to mesa, unblacklisting radeon and blacklisting fglrx didn't seem to help |
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| 13:47.42 | pclov3r | Well i got it parly working |
| 13:47.48 | pclov3r | What i idd was |
| 13:47.53 | pclov3r | I did a Xorg -configure |
| 13:48.07 | pclov3r | and changed the driver form nv to nvidia |
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| 13:48.52 | pclov3r | on both devices |
| 13:48.56 | pclov3r | good idea? |
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| 13:50.20 | woshty | pclov3r: hi again, what does partly working mean? |
| 13:50.47 | pclov3r | how do i extend the display? |
| 13:50.53 | pclov3r | extent my first desktop to the second one |
| 13:50.59 | pclov3r | I have pictue on both montiors |
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| 13:51.32 | woshty | pclov3r: you now have the same picture on both monitors? |
| 13:51.38 | pclov3r | no |
| 13:51.43 | pclov3r | it's like two differnt desktops |
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| 13:52.21 | pclov3r | i cant drag |
| 13:52.25 | pclov3r | a window over to the second montior |
| 13:52.41 | brandonj | pclov3r: you can use the nvidia-settings program to switch from "separate X sessions" to "twinview" |
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| 13:53.36 | pclov3r | oh |
| 13:53.38 | pclov3r | let met try |
| 13:53.52 | brandonj | once you do that you'll have to restart X11 too |
| 13:54.14 | pclov3r | so |
| 13:54.19 | pclov3r | how do i swtich to tnview |
| 13:54.28 | pclov3r | oh |
| 13:54.28 | pclov3r | i see |
| 13:54.50 | pclov3r | TwinView |
| 13:54.52 | pclov3r | is gryed out? |
| 13:55.13 | zmisc | is giving up on Linux on the desktop (especially Debian) :( |
| 13:55.29 | zmisc | It's been a good 8 years :`( |
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| 13:55.59 | brandonj | sorry to hear that, zmisc |
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| 13:58.36 | Angtagapagligt | Why Zmisc? |
| 13:59.32 | specing | zmisc: try Gentoo, you'll love it |
| 14:00.23 | abrotman | that's silly |
| 14:00.31 | jelly-home | that's still Linux |
| 14:00.42 | Angtagapagligt | yeah?! That's still Linux? |
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| 14:00.48 | Angtagapagligt | Just another Distro?! O.o |
| 14:01.02 | abrotman | Penix: i blame you for this! |
| 14:01.14 | jelly-home | I guess the dude mozes to something that works |
| 14:01.20 | jelly-home | moves* |
| 14:01.43 | Angtagapagligt | Debian works too ... sometimes :P |
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| 14:02.00 | abrotman | anyway ... |
| 14:02.06 | jelly-home | let's not get into that old argument |
| 14:03.09 | jelly-home | zmisc: good luck with your future OS enviroment, and may it Just Work and Get Out of Your Way |
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| 14:10.03 | michalxo | hello all! I am having strange xserver/xfce/something error in my debian unstable/testing. After wake up [random] pressing Fn+F[0..12] [randomly] my xserver crash. I have no idea what to do. Any help would be great. Thank you. xsession-errors.old -> http://pastebin.com/JhZefGUy |
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| 14:10.46 | pclov3r | well i did it |
| 14:10.49 | pclov3r | i got it the way i wanted |
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| 14:11.04 | pclov3r | i guess i was determined enough? |
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| 14:13.05 | kyrix | any ideas how could I check if an rsync worked well over a slow link? |
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| 14:13.57 | brandonj | kyrix: you could make some quick checksums of the files |
| 14:14.02 | boudiccas | kyrix, for future events with it you could choose to let it putptu to a log file you create |
| 14:14.17 | boudiccas | putput |
| 14:14.38 | abrotman | putput? |
| 14:14.41 | boudiccas | bollocks, output |
| 14:14.43 | kyrix | output i gues |
| 14:14.45 | kyrix | ;) |
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| 14:15.17 | kyrix | its a one time event. before erasing the original i'd like to check that's it "probably" all there. |
| 14:15.24 | Angtagapagligt | :D putput is great :D |
| 14:15.51 | kyrix | im going to start by creating a recursive file list on each node then diff them |
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| 14:16.11 | abrotman | kyrix: do an md5 on all files, use diff |
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| 14:19.10 | kyrix | abrotman, can do md5's on old host. |
| 14:19.12 | boudiccas | for any xchat users, how do you get the channel tabs to show new content in them please? i'm using the default settings and i find it difficult to see any change in the colour of the tabs |
| 14:19.15 | kyrix | can't |
| 14:19.47 | Angtagapagligt | I use empathy ... is much mor comfortable imho |
| 14:21.02 | abrotman | why not? |
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| 14:21.59 | pclov3r | Okay i'm all good now |
| 14:22.08 | pclov3r | Thank you guys for you help for the ones who helped me |
| 14:22.18 | pclov3r | MUCH appreciated |
| 14:22.47 | abrotman | boudiccas: ask #xchat perhaps, though your question isn't very clear |
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| 14:23.05 | boudiccas | abrotman, okay, thanks. |
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| 14:24.20 | pclov3r | So my finial solution to my problelm was |
| 14:25.11 | pclov3r | run Xorg -configure |
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| 14:25.32 | pclov3r | and then change the drive nv to nvidia |
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| 14:25.40 | pclov3r | and it works |
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| 14:25.50 | pclov3r | i spent 4 hours on this |
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| 14:43.16 | pclov3r | woshty: Thank you |
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| 14:49.52 | michaelis | Hi. How do I turn of tapping on the touchpad? There's no xorg.conf file. |
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| 14:51.07 | sney | !xorg.conf.d |
| 14:51.08 | dpkg | xorg can use files ending in the suffix .conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d for additional configuration. It is preferred to use an <empty xorg.conf> and create files (e.g. 20-nvidia.conf, 20-radeon.conf, 20-wacom.conf) there in order to configure a single device. You might have to create the directory yourself (mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d). See also "man 5 xorg.conf". |
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| 14:51.46 | michaelis | !xorg.conf.d |
| 14:51.46 | dpkg | xorg can use files ending in the suffix .conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d for additional configuration. It is preferred to use an <empty xorg.conf> and create files (e.g. 20-nvidia.conf, 20-radeon.conf, 20-wacom.conf) there in order to configure a single device. You might have to create the directory yourself (mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d). See also "man 5 xorg.conf". |
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| 15:00.36 | fredl | hey guys |
| 15:00.58 | fredl | anybody know a documentation for debian-installer-7.0-netboot-amd64? |
| 15:01.40 | fredl | I got the DHCP server set up, the TFTP server etc. and the server I want to install on gets and IP etc. and I can probably figure out by myself what to put in /srv/tftp |
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| 15:01.52 | ansgar | fredl: The installation manual? |
| 15:02.04 | pclov3r | how would i go about getting my USB mic to work? |
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| 15:02.23 | fredl | but as debian-installer-7.0-netboot-amd64 is packaged I can't imagine there not being a handy symlink I can make in /srv/tftpboot without having to figure out which files to copy |
| 15:02.48 | gury | how does one log out of cups web interface to log in as another user? |
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| 15:05.08 | fredl | hmm the iinstallation manual says to download netboot.tar.gz |
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| 15:05.37 | fredl | that's kinda silly when everything one needs is in debian-installer-7.0-netboot-amd64, no? |
| 15:06.45 | fredl | ls |
| 15:06.48 | fredl | oops |
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| 15:06.56 | lukas_ | hello |
| 15:08.00 | lukas_ | hello is this irc help |
| 15:08.01 | Carly- | Hi lukas_ |
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| 15:08.16 | michaelis | !xorg.conf.d |
| 15:08.16 | dpkg | xorg can use files ending in the suffix .conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d for additional configuration. It is preferred to use an <empty xorg.conf> and create files (e.g. 20-nvidia.conf, 20-radeon.conf, 20-wacom.conf) there in order to configure a single device. You might have to create the directory yourself (mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d). See also "man 5 xorg.conf". |
| 15:08.28 | lukas_ | oh never mind wrong chanel |
| 15:08.34 | boudiccas | lukas_, this is the Debian support channel |
| 15:08.43 | lukas_ | ya iknow |
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| 15:13.10 | fredl | hmm my DL380 G3 hangs on the netboot... |
| 15:15.02 | fredl | anybody happen to know if the G3 will do an amd64 kernel?! |
| 15:15.59 | fredl | I see 192.168.178.129.49269 > 192.168.178.20.69: [udp sum ok] 62 RRQ "debian-installer/amd64/initrd.gz" octet tsize 0 blksize 1408 in the tftp log but after that nada. |
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| 15:17.31 | fredl | oh gosh, expert install shows it only does i686, crap |
| 15:17.51 | fredl | I think I hate this server. |
| 15:18.45 | fredl | anybody want to buy a DL380/G3? real cheap, 6GB memory, 4 SCSI disks of which only one is broken, HP ILO licensed etc. :) |
| 15:19.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | fredl, freely assume that we do not know the whole install guide by heart... from what I see there is not any mention of any tar.gz on http://www.debian.org/distrib/, just the netinstall iso |
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| 15:19.37 | fredl | CutMeOwnThroat, http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/amd64/ch04s05.html.en |
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| 15:20.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | you never mentioned anything about tftp... |
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| 15:20.43 | Jeff_Bezos | hi |
| 15:20.55 | Jeff_Bezos | i am disappointed in #debian, i must say |
| 15:21.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | also note that the testing installer is for testing the installer until wheezy is released... |
| 15:21.11 | Jeff_Bezos | no amazon product search |
| 15:21.51 | fredl | uhm.... yes I did |
| 15:22.03 | xand | I am disappointed in your trolling ability, Jeff_Bezos. |
| 15:22.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, indeed you did... didn't scroll back so far |
| 15:22.18 | Jeff_Bezos | i am disappointed in my ability to make non shitty android tablets |
| 15:22.20 | Jeff_Bezos | :( |
| 15:22.30 | fredl | How about: "I got the DHCP server set up, the TFTP server etc. and the server I want to install on gets and IP etc. and I can probably figure out by myself what to put in /srv/tftp" |
| 15:22.40 | fredl | :) |
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| 15:23.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | how about <CutMeOwnThroat> oh, indeed you did... didn't scroll back so far |
| 15:23.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | :P |
| 15:23.39 | fredl | yeah you beat me to it, so there :P |
| 15:23.50 | fredl | no worries, I know what's the prob already |
| 15:23.53 | fredl | shitty server. |
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| 15:24.18 | Jeff_Bezos | do you guys think debian will ever catch up with ubuntu and offer walmart search from the dashboard |
| 15:24.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | ok... actually the tftp install I think is something I never tried out |
| 15:24.33 | Jeff_Bezos | in case i want to buy a 2kg pack of oreos from the command line |
| 15:24.35 | Jeff_Bezos | or something |
| 15:24.35 | fredl | 'catch up with ubuntu' ? I hope never. |
| 15:24.54 | fredl | It |
| 15:25.03 | Jeff_Bezos | why not |
| 15:25.04 | fredl | Its pretty neat CutMeOwnThroat |
| 15:25.08 | Jeff_Bezos | the future is all about synergy |
| 15:25.10 | Jeff_Bezos | and affiliate marketing |
| 15:25.22 | fredl | oh go away with your marketing crap, this is a debian channel. |
| 15:25.25 | jacobw | never diss synergy |
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| 15:25.39 | fredl | bollocks. |
| 15:26.15 | Jeff_Bezos | synergy is the future |
| 15:26.26 | boudiccas | Jeff_Bezos, please take your off-topic chat to #debian-offtopic where its relevant |
| 15:26.31 | fredl | I bet the netboot.tar.gz is not going to have the non-free firmware.... |
| 15:26.36 | Jeff_Bezos | if there's one thing the last 100 years of american capitalism has taught us, it's that we can trust the free market |
| 15:26.43 | fredl | I KNEW IT! |
| 15:27.06 | fredl | 'load missing firmware from removable media' GRRRR |
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| 15:27.19 | fredl | this makes me so sad. |
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| 15:28.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, firmware images |
| 15:28.09 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Squeeze are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. For DVD images, see http://deb.li/3tGse |
| 15:28.28 | fredl | LOL tnx CutMeOwnThroat, tftpboot remember :) |
| 15:28.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | dunno if what you need for tftp is there... in my view tftp installs are somewhat opscure |
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| 15:28.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | obscure* |
| 15:28.44 | fredl | and I'm on an old server without even a USB port LOL |
| 15:28.52 | fredl | obscure?!?!?! |
| 15:28.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes |
| 15:29.05 | fredl | no way. |
| 15:29.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | anyway, have a look anyway... that the factoid says cd images doesn't mean anything |
| 15:29.28 | fredl | my server is obscure as it does not have USB ports, but tftpboots aren't obscure. |
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| 15:30.13 | fredl | I'll have a look yeah |
| 15:30.41 | fredl | it should not be hard as with a tftp boot I already *get* a filesystem that I could just copy stuff on from anotehr virtual console |
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| 15:32.51 | fredl | hmm nope... the netboot just loaded the kernel and initrd over the NIC.... but now it no longer understand the NIC :P |
| 15:33.00 | fredl | I'm going to hang myself :P |
| 15:33.11 | michaelis | Hi. I created the directory /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d and added the file 50-synpatics.conf. It didn't have much entries, only the two mandatory and MaxTapTime 0. After that debian freezes on startup when I'm supposed to choose user. Any ideas? |
| 15:33.43 | fredl | laterz |
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| 15:33.57 | michaelis | s/synpatics/synaptics |
| 15:34.01 | somiaj | michaelis: read though /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see what is happening. It is probabaly x that is freezing. |
| 15:34.20 | somiaj | most likely you messed up teh syntax or config options in that config snippit you made |
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| 15:35.24 | michaelis | somiaj, What should I be searching for? |
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| 15:36.51 | somiaj | you will know when you find it |
| 15:36.56 | somiaj | but look mostly for EE lines |
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| 15:37.09 | somiaj | error, but waringins are also useful at times |
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| 15:38.56 | michaelis | somiaj,Is the log file cleared at every startup? |
| 15:39.35 | somiaj | it is copied to /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old and the new log is made |
| 15:39.47 | pclov3r | debian is awesome |
| 15:39.57 | somiaj | you shoudln't have to restart. Disable your display manager, then just use startx as you debug the issue |
| 15:41.09 | sney | michaelis: the log gets moved, so the log from the last time is Xorg.1 and the time before that is Xorg.2 etc |
| 15:41.30 | somiaj | sney: no |
| 15:41.37 | sney | no? |
| 15:41.39 | somiaj | sney: Xorg.1 is the log for display :1.0 |
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| 15:41.52 | somiaj | it gets move to Xorg.0.log.old (only keeps one backup) |
| 15:42.18 | sney | huh, I thought for sure... weird |
| 15:42.30 | michaelis | somiaj, Thanks for the help but this is beyond my skills. I guess I have to live with the annoying tapping on the touchpad. |
| 15:43.04 | somiaj | michaelis: you can paste the logfil at paste.debian.net and maybe someone will look at it |
| 15:43.09 | michaelis | somiaj, I have looked in the old file and there are plenty of errors not, at least not obviously, related to the touchpad. |
| 15:43.26 | somiaj | michaelis: but I would serach for info on your touchpad and see what it says about it. |
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| 15:45.23 | michaelis | somiaj, It mostly says "Synaptics driver unable to detect protocol" for all of the devices. |
| 15:45.56 | somiaj | that is where google is your friend |
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| 15:46.17 | somiaj | sney: and I could be mistaken, but it sure seems that the Xorg.foo.log, the foo is the display |
| 15:46.28 | somiaj | (otherwise I woudln't just have Xorg.0.log and Xorg.1.log on my machine) |
| 15:46.50 | sney | yeah, and I can't check mine, because I'm not booted into debian at the moment |
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| 15:47.42 | pclov3r | how do i get a USB mic working? |
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| 15:48.27 | michaelis | somiaj, The strange thing is that it doesn't even find a synaptics touchpad in /proc/bus/input/devices but a PS/2 generic mouse. |
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| 15:49.16 | apm1 | i have a macbookpro 13" 2010 on which i would like to install debian from the wheezy images created by http://blog.einval.com/debian/CDs/Debian_EFI_4.comments |
| 15:49.42 | apm1 | i want to single boot wheezy |
| 15:49.52 | apm1 | no os x |
| 15:50.08 | somiaj | pclov3r: cat /proc/asound/cards (do you see the mic there once you plug it in?) |
| 15:50.09 | sney | ok, that should be straightforward |
| 15:50.14 | ws2k3 | hi is it possible to delete files older then 14 days ? |
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| 15:50.22 | ws2k3 | is there a command i can use to do that ? |
| 15:50.35 | apm1 | although i have limited bandwidth so testing updates might be hard to download ? :( |
| 15:50.44 | somiaj | ws2k3: man find (I belive you can give it an option based on date/age of file) |
| 15:50.56 | sney | apm1: how limited? |
| 15:50.58 | somiaj | ws2k3: note there is last write/update and last access time recorded |
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| 15:51.14 | sney | apm1: or you could use apt-zip to update from another machine's connection |
| 15:51.17 | apm1 | sney, 10kbps downlink :( |
| 15:51.20 | n3rv3 | hi |
| 15:51.25 | somiaj | apm1: wheezy is frozen so updates shouldn't be that big, but yea until it stabalizes you may want to wait for it to stabalize. |
| 15:51.47 | sney | or apt-zip if you have access to a faster connection somewhere (like at a library, school etc) |
| 15:52.22 | apm1 | is apt-zip described in the admin's handbook ? |
| 15:52.51 | michaelis | somiaj, Thanks for all your help. After searching the web for my laptop it seems it a general error concerning my touchpad. |
| 15:53.32 | apm1 | actually i sorta read it cover to cover , but i don't recall anything such as a zip apt tool ? |
| 15:53.45 | sney | apm1: not sure but it's documented online and fairly simple to use |
| 15:53.54 | sney | !apt-zip |
| 15:53.55 | dpkg | Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. Just aptitude install apt-zip and read the docs in /usr/share/doc/apt-zip, or ask me about <apt offline> <apt-walkabout>. http://wiki.debian.org/AptZip |
| 15:54.05 | apm1 | sney, thanks :) |
| 15:54.17 | sney | np |
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| 15:54.57 | somiaj | ws2k3: yea seems like find /directory/path -atime 10 (will find all files that were last accessed at least 11 days ago) |
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| 16:02.13 | jelly-home | ws2k3: somiaj: you'll want to make that 10 a +10 is you want "at least" |
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| 16:05.21 | dawud | when trying to use passenger as frontend for puppet, using the default config (dedicated VHOST pointing to 8140), makes other VHOSTs to fail with "An error occurred while trying to access '/srv/www/passenger_wsgi.py': Cannot stat '/srv/www/passenger_wsgi.py': Permission denied (13)", that file does not exist (obviously), any pointers on how to make passenger behave with its neighbours? |
| 16:06.47 | dawud | or is that a known bug in passenger? |
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| 16:08.12 | dawud | I don't even have mod_python or wsgi loaded |
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| 16:08.33 | mrdeb | hello, where does debian save apt get update file |
| 16:08.43 | mrdeb | not pkg bin |
| 16:09.21 | SiDz | /var/lib/apt/lists |
| 16:09.22 | mrdeb | for offline update without internet later. i know where deb files go, but so i dont need to do apt-get update to isntall with apt-get dist-upgrade offline |
| 16:09.23 | SiDz | /var/lib/apt/lists/ |
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| 16:09.32 | mrdeb | so i can sopy from there, sidz is that it |
| 16:09.46 | mrdeb | ?? |
| 16:09.50 | mrdeb | to usb stick |
| 16:10.07 | SiDz | it's in /var/lib/apt/lists/ |
| 16:10.18 | SiDz | but i dont know how to update from a usb stick |
| 16:10.25 | mrdeb | sidz |
| 16:10.56 | mrdeb | so ican copy those lists to usb, copy deb files to usb, then when installing copy back to archives folder and list folder and dist-upgrade from term, is that it |
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| 16:11.26 | SiDz | i don't know sorry, i only know where apt-get update save files |
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| 16:11.39 | mrdeb | ok |
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| 16:11.43 | SiDz | never does that |
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| 16:12.22 | mrdeb | do i need the pkg src fiels the two in /var/cache/apt |
| 16:12.23 | mrdeb | ?? |
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| 16:14.03 | nkuttler | mrdeb: what do you mean? |
| 16:14.20 | SiDz | if i knew;p |
| 16:14.23 | SiDz | i would answer u |
| 16:14.26 | mrdeb | nkuttler: after fresh install, i want ot update |
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| 16:14.40 | mrdeb | i usually copy debs from usb into /archives |
| 16:14.40 | nkuttler | !tell mrdeb about sources.list |
| 16:15.00 | sney | sounds like mrdeb is trying to re-implement apt-zip manually |
| 16:15.04 | nkuttler | mrdeb: why would you copy debs, and from where? |
| 16:15.05 | sney | it's just an apt-zip kind of day |
| 16:15.11 | mrdeb | but then need to update with internet to install them but i think i can copy list folder also like sidz said and i can do it offline, yes? |
| 16:15.21 | mrdeb | nkuttler: without internet to update complete system |
| 16:15.21 | sney | nkuttler: sounds like he's trying to download the files on one machine and copy them all to another |
| 16:15.27 | mrdeb | when i updated before |
| 16:15.30 | nkuttler | mrdeb: or apt-offline, apt-cacher-ng etc |
| 16:15.30 | mrdeb | reinstall |
| 16:15.42 | mrdeb | no i jsut want to copy files |
| 16:15.52 | mrdeb | is that gonna do it |
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| 16:16.06 | nkuttler | mrdeb: i don't think so |
| 16:16.15 | mrdeb | y |
| 16:16.24 | mrdeb | i will try it |
| 16:16.37 | mrdeb | copying debs works but still need lists |
| 16:16.44 | mrdeb | i know where lists r now |
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| 16:18.24 | jelly-home | you could just tar up the whole of /var/{lib,cache}/apt and hope that's enough |
| 16:18.35 | jelly-home | is it? No idea |
| 16:19.06 | mrdeb | i dont know apt zip but i just have flash drive with debian on it and deb files in another folder that i copy to /var/cache/apt/archives and apt-update and dist-upgrade but need net access to get lists. so now i think i can save lists to usb and copy back also |
| 16:19.45 | apm1 | is wheezy gonna have gnome2 as it's default as well ? |
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| 16:19.58 | mrdeb | apmi xfce |
| 16:20.18 | apm1 | mrdeb, really , are you kidding me :) |
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| 16:20.29 | mrdeb | no its true. xfce4 |
| 16:20.41 | mrdeb | they dont like gnome3 bec its for tablets |
| 16:20.53 | apm1 | i agree |
| 16:21.06 | mrdeb | i use openbox |
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| 16:21.30 | apm1 | mrdeb, heard of #! ? |
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| 16:21.43 | mrdeb | yes i ahve |
| 16:21.49 | mrdeb | it is good |
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| 16:22.54 | apm1 | mrdeb, so you are a crunchbanger or a debian purist using openbox ;) |
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| 16:23.19 | mrdeb | i use ideas from cb |
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| 16:23.26 | mrdeb | but i change it alot |
| 16:23.45 | mrdeb | i like to use tint2 conky but also terminus font all over |
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| 16:24.52 | apm1 | mrdeb, what do you suggest a 6.0.6 DVD install or a net install , i actually need everything on the DVD so ? |
| 16:25.04 | mrdeb | no u only need disc1 |
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| 16:25.31 | mrdeb | if u want to install base with openbox, then use net install of use cb and edit it |
| 16:25.37 | mrdeb | cb install quickly |
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| 16:25.45 | mrdeb | or use |
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| 16:27.58 | apm1 | mrdeb, i believe my newfound debian purist soul won't allow me to use #! :) |
| 16:28.08 | mrdeb | yes good |
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| 16:28.53 | mrdeb | goodbye |
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| 16:36.50 | ansgar | !ops SupaDupa |
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| 16:36.51 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: ansgar complains about: SupaDupa |
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| 16:37.20 | Re-L | While building glib--networking I get following error: gtlscertificate-gnutls.h:61:72: error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' before 'gnutls_retr2_st' /why? |
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| 16:44.05 | strangelemon | Hi I've been trying to set up a live usb persistent Debian on a 16GB usb drive, and I've been failing to boot before I even try to make it persistent, so I was wondering if anyone could help me. |
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| 16:44.46 | strangelemon | pretty sure its a bootloader problem, and I know nothing about bootloaders |
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| 17:18.42 | bytes | hi, i am having trouble with my microphone on skype |
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| 17:18.53 | bytes | on windows i remember using a realtek driver for it to properly work |
| 17:19.10 | bytes | but on the sony (my oem) site, the specific model or driver for it is not listed, all i know is it is realtek |
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| 17:24.17 | mtn | bytes: you don't say, but is sound and/or microphone working on your computer to begin with? |
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| 17:28.43 | mtn | thinks maybe his irc microphone isn't working either |
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| 17:29.04 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 17:29.10 | lenswipe | so debian messed my smb.conf up |
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| 17:29.32 | jelly-home | restore it from a backup, lenswipe |
| 17:29.39 | lenswipe | it told me to rename it to smb.conf.master and then run testparm -s smb.conf.master >smb.conf |
| 17:29.43 | lenswipe | now they're both empty |
| 17:29.51 | lenswipe | jelly-home, i dont have one - where can i download the stock one again |
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| 17:31.02 | jelly-home | lenswipe: purge samba and samba-common, and install ane |
| 17:31.07 | jelly-home | again* |
| 17:31.10 | lenswipe | ok |
| 17:31.19 | jelly-home | and make backups. |
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| 17:38.14 | oznt | hi everyone, please help me figure out how to install Citrix Client on Debian 64 bit |
| 17:38.41 | oznt | I keep getting the "ssl certificate error 61" and I have been bumping from one "solution" to another |
| 17:38.59 | specing | What is "Citrix Client"? |
| 17:39.18 | oznt | a crappy shit made by idiots, to connect to remote windows servers |
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| 17:39.52 | specing | uhm |
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| 17:40.05 | oznt | i need to my work |
| 17:40.06 | specing | Aren't there other, better ways of doing that? |
| 17:40.10 | oznt | no |
| 17:40.19 | specing | Like replacing those servers with debian? |
| 17:40.24 | oznt | hmm |
| 17:40.39 | oznt | in an ideal world where your clients are smarter than you, yes |
| 17:40.51 | oznt | in the real world where live, your clients are idiots |
| 17:40.56 | specing | educate them, then? |
| 17:41.04 | oznt | lantiq.com |
| 17:41.07 | oznt | go figure |
| 17:41.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | this aint school, though |
| 17:41.16 | oznt | it is a 3000 men company |
| 17:41.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | no women :( |
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| 17:41.48 | oznt | it is an IT company |
| 17:42.03 | specing | oznt: DNS does not exis |
| 17:42.03 | oznt | woman are in the cafiteria, sales and human resources |
| 17:42.04 | specing | t |
| 17:42.13 | oznt | specing, ? |
| 17:42.25 | specing | lantiq.com does not have an A record. |
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| 17:43.40 | oznt | http://www.lantiq.com/ - you see how bad they are ... |
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| 17:45.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | you know there's logs of this put up on the www... |
| 17:45.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | it sez so in the topic, |
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| 17:46.09 | nsadmin | which makes logs topical? |
| 17:46.21 | specing | tropical logs |
| 17:46.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | which makes logs something you don't want to be seen calling your clients idiots in |
| 17:46.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | anyway |
| 17:46.47 | oznt | CutMeOwnThroat, so? you think they read it? i don't care, i am just a tiny screw in another company that works for these idiots |
| 17:46.50 | jelly-home | which makes it sensible to warn oznt about public logs, so he doesn't get into trouble |
| 17:47.07 | oznt | jelly-home, thanks for your worries |
| 17:47.31 | nsadmin | CutMeOwnThroat, ahh, a failure to be safe for work... |
| 17:48.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | although that came litte late from my side, I guess... |
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| 17:50.52 | nsadmin | it is in the topic, so failure to read the topic, altho rare, isn't your fault |
| 17:52.33 | nsadmin | plus maybe he doesn't care (I get a mediocre feeling that might be the case) |
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| 17:53.45 | debianin | hi all. someone skilled on DEBIAN-over-ARM? i have qeustions. |
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| 18:06.13 | debianin | someone play debina on ARM hardware? ARMv7, ARMv4? |
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| 18:11.59 | nsadmin | I've never played debina... what is it? |
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| 18:14.44 | debianin | nsadmin, debina is debian typo |
| 18:15.23 | nsadmin | so then what you're asking about is "play debian"? |
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| 18:15.42 | debianin | play=install, use. |
| 18:15.56 | debianin | someone install and use debian on ARM hardware? |
| 18:16.04 | nsadmin | oh ok, there is a channel that can help more specifically |
| 18:16.07 | nsadmin | !arm |
| 18:16.07 | dpkg | Advanced RISC Machine (ARM) is a processor architecture. The Debian arm port was deprecated at Debian 5.0 with official support dropped at Debian 6.0, ask me about <armel> for the replacement port. See also <armhf>. http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/ For help with Debian on ARM systems, join #debian-arm on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 18:16.46 | debianin | thank you, nsadmin |
| 18:17.01 | nsadmin | no problem :) |
| 18:17.23 | weeb1e | "with official support dropped at Debian 6.0", that is pretty sad |
| 18:18.03 | ansgar | weeb1e: There are still two ARM ports in Debian. |
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| 18:22.02 | jelly-home | weeb1e: it's only sad if your hardware is older than arm v5t or so |
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| 18:26.07 | barque | sftp works with regular ftp servers as well? |
| 18:26.21 | barque | cause I can't seem to find ftp on the netinst :P |
| 18:27.43 | barque | hello? |
| 18:28.15 | GNU\colossus | no, entirely different protocols |
| 18:28.26 | barque | I meant the binary... |
| 18:28.31 | barque | it won't handle FTP at all? :( |
| 18:28.35 | barque | regular ftp |
| 18:28.42 | themill | barque: what are you trying to do? |
| 18:28.42 | barque | if not, awww :| |
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| 18:28.53 | barque | just trying to use ftp... I've scoured every /bin directory |
| 18:28.59 | barque | on netinst... doesn't seem to come with it |
| 18:29.05 | simonlnu | sftp is with ssh |
| 18:29.09 | barque | yeah I know |
| 18:29.16 | themill | there is no bin dir on the netinst. what are you actually trying to do |
| 18:29.18 | barque | I was just wondering if it'll handle regular ftp as well |
| 18:29.30 | simonlnu | openssh-client |
| 18:29.32 | simonlnu | no |
| 18:29.33 | barque | ./bin, /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin ? |
| 18:29.45 | specing | barque: $ ftp site |
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| 18:29.50 | barque | yeah not avail |
| 18:29.55 | barque | specing |
| 18:30.02 | barque | I'm even logged in on root |
| 18:30.11 | nsadmin | not "./bin" |
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| 18:30.17 | barque | yeah just ftp |
| 18:30.19 | barque | none of that |
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| 18:30.33 | specing | barque: well my squeeze install has the ftp program |
| 18:30.35 | barque | I used the dot cause of IRC |
| 18:30.48 | barque | it should normally be in /bin ? |
| 18:30.51 | nsadmin | ftp is inside the "busybox" |
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| 18:31.02 | nsadmin | oh ok :) cool |
| 18:31.02 | barque | busybox ? |
| 18:31.03 | themill | barque: what are you actually trying to achieve here? |
| 18:31.12 | barque | themill, connect to an ftp server. |
| 18:31.16 | barque | using command line FTP |
| 18:31.20 | themill | to do what... |
| 18:31.21 | themill | ffs |
| 18:31.25 | barque | .... |
| 18:31.29 | barque | what do you think? |
| 18:31.32 | specing | netkit-ftp |
| 18:31.41 | barque | I guess I could use that... |
| 18:31.46 | specing | barque: install mc |
| 18:31.48 | themill | barque: to be as annoying and vague as possible, would be my guess |
| 18:31.58 | barque | **** off |
| 18:32.07 | barque | what the hell do people use FTP for? downloading and uploading files |
| 18:32.12 | barque | what the hell kind of question is that? |
| 18:32.18 | specing | I don't use ftp at all |
| 18:32.21 | barque | I'll try mc |
| 18:32.22 | barque | thanks |
| 18:32.26 | themill | barque: well if it's just downloading, you already have wget most likely |
| 18:32.31 | barque | No everything |
| 18:32.35 | nsadmin | people are trying to help you |
| 18:32.36 | specing | its an outdate protocol that has no place being on the internet in the 21th century. |
| 18:32.44 | barque | well I'm not the host |
| 18:32.44 | themill | if it's uploading then you should try a different protocol that's not made of blue chese |
| 18:32.54 | barque | it's other hosts I'm trying to use |
| 18:32.59 | barque | hosts I pay for |
| 18:33.03 | barque | other places etc. |
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| 18:33.44 | nsadmin | you're trying to do this during install? |
| 18:33.52 | barque | no, no, it's all installed |
| 18:33.55 | barque | I'm in command line |
| 18:34.03 | nsadmin | , v ftp |
| 18:34.04 | judd | Package: ftp on i386 -- lenny: 0.17-18; squeeze: 0.17-23; sid: 0.17-27; wheezy: 0.17-27 |
| 18:34.10 | nsadmin | installthat |
| 18:34.11 | barque | I'll find an ftp client, no worries. I was just surprised that it didn't come with netinst :/ |
| 18:34.15 | specing | barque: mc and stop complaining |
| 18:34.28 | themill | barque: then it's not "in the netinst" at all. The installer is irrelevant as soon as you've finshed it. |
| 18:34.36 | barque | it's finished |
| 18:34.44 | themill | dpkg: tell barque about standard task |
| 18:34.57 | nsadmin | and therefore, you can install anything you want now |
| 18:35.08 | themill | barque: you can't really complain about missing tools when you don't install the set of tools that are labelled as standard tools in the installer. |
| 18:35.08 | nsadmin | aptitude install ftp |
| 18:35.10 | nsadmin | done |
| 18:35.17 | barque | yeah I did try that |
| 18:35.21 | barque | it says package not found |
| 18:35.29 | themill | barque: can you pastebin your sources.list? |
| 18:35.36 | nsadmin | then you just have to set up your sources.list |
| 18:35.46 | nsadmin | which themill might help you do |
| 18:35.46 | themill | dpkg: tell barque about make squeeze sources.list |
| 18:36.10 | specing | barque: mc |
| 18:36.14 | specing | mc mc mc mc mc mc |
| 18:36.23 | themill | specing: he still needs to be able to install the package |
| 18:36.34 | specing | true. |
| 18:36.36 | barque | where was sources.list again? /etc? |
| 18:36.40 | specing | But that is irrelevant |
| 18:36.45 | nsadmin | mc is good too, so you have a choice |
| 18:36.52 | specing | slaps barque around with a large trout |
| 18:36.52 | barque | yeah this actually seems fishy |
| 18:36.57 | barque | so let me figure this out |
| 18:37.03 | barque | this might solve other problems down the road |
| 18:37.04 | nsadmin | specing, no. it's relevent because it blocks him from installing |
| 18:37.11 | epsilon | barque: /etc/apt |
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| 18:37.36 | barque | baahhhh |
| 18:37.39 | specing | nsadmin: he'd fail the google-fu class. |
| 18:37.48 | nsadmin | barque, maybe you didn't configure the net during the install process because it couldn't? |
| 18:37.56 | barque | the two ftp lines are commented out |
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| 18:38.09 | barque | nsadmin, that might be the cause |
| 18:38.19 | barque | I didn't have the patch cable so I didn't config net, later on used dhclient |
| 18:38.20 | themill | barque: read what dpkg said about your sources.list |
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| 18:38.41 | barque | ok hold on my sources.list has two essential lines commented out |
| 18:39.30 | nsadmin | barque, the thing about the netinstall, is it can install the minimal debian "the base" whether you have a net connection which is supported by the kernel on the netinstall cd |
| 18:39.47 | nsadmin | so you at least have a debian... it's minimal right now |
| 18:40.37 | barque | deb and deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian squeeze-updates main |
| 18:40.52 | barque | (I didn't paste but wrote it, it's in vm) |
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| 18:41.44 | nsadmin | perhaps the network is operational right now, if that's the case all you have to do is put the right stuff in your sources.list (and you will need a few more than just squeeze updates), run aptitude update and then install whatever you want |
| 18:41.45 | barque | hmm still can't find ftp |
| 18:42.00 | nsadmin | are you in the us? |
| 18:42.09 | barque | Canada |
| 18:42.13 | barque | let me add the lines dpkg told me |
| 18:42.31 | nsadmin | yeah, that would be good |
| 18:43.44 | barque | ok running aptitude update |
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| 18:43.53 | barque | done |
| 18:44.05 | nsadmin | ok, now try installing somethign |
| 18:44.10 | nsadmin | (like ftp) |
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| 18:44.45 | barque | it's picked heimdal-clients ... (?) |
| 18:44.51 | barque | and ton of dependencies |
| 18:44.56 | nsadmin | oh good :) |
| 18:45.04 | barque | going ahead with it? :D |
| 18:45.19 | nsadmin | remember you started with a very minimal installation |
| 18:45.23 | barque | sure |
| 18:45.24 | nsadmin | so, yes |
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| 18:45.28 | barque | alrighty |
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| 18:46.43 | barque | it keeps saying no packages will be installed upgraded or removed |
| 18:46.44 | nsadmin | so, the sources.list content is normally a set-and-forget thing, you should be all set now |
| 18:46.46 | barque | !? |
| 18:46.50 | barque | yeah |
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| 18:48.16 | nsadmin | you would alter it when you want to upgrade to the next version |
| 18:48.26 | barque | mhm |
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| 18:49.31 | barque | ok it can't resolve http.debian.org |
| 18:49.37 | barque | and I can't either |
| 18:49.43 | barque | dpkg told me to have that |
| 18:49.44 | dpkg | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, barque |
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| 18:50.25 | barque | ok I got rid of that |
| 18:50.33 | barque | but aptitude has updated |
| 18:50.35 | barque | however |
| 18:50.37 | jelly-home | barque: does "getent hosts http.debian.org" in a shell work? |
| 18:50.58 | barque | jelly, blank output |
| 18:51.03 | nsadmin | dpkg is making a joke with you |
| 18:51.03 | dpkg | nsadmin: bugger all, i dunno |
| 18:51.04 | jelly-home | barque: or is it no http.debian.NET |
| 18:51.07 | barque | however, aptitude doesn't install anything |
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| 18:51.32 | nsadmin | try http.us.debian.org |
| 18:51.37 | barque | damn it's debian.net |
| 18:51.41 | barque | gosh sorry |
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| 18:52.22 | nsadmin | well maybe, but that may not be a mirror |
| 18:52.52 | nsadmin | there is a mirror at http.us.debian.org |
| 18:52.55 | pindemon | in debian wheezy, how can I enable notification icons for all applications such as pidgin, davmail, etc? |
| 18:52.56 | nsadmin | try pinging that |
| 18:53.17 | barque | nsadmin, I just used the other one, it works... dpkg was right :) |
| 18:53.24 | nsadmin | oh good :) |
| 18:53.48 | nsadmin | and? |
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| 18:54.28 | barque | oh I ran aptitude update again |
| 18:54.31 | barque | it's updating some stuff |
| 18:54.37 | nsadmin | good ... |
| 18:54.44 | barque | aaaaand everything works now! |
| 18:54.47 | barque | aptitude install ftp |
| 18:54.50 | nsadmin | great |
| 18:55.01 | barque | BAM! everything is perfect |
| 18:55.05 | barque | thanks nsadmin for the help |
| 18:55.06 | jelly-home | you might use a nicer client like lftp |
| 18:55.14 | barque | yeah the world is at my feet now :] |
| 18:55.23 | jelly-home | if you must use ftp at all |
| 18:55.23 | barque | the problem was my sources.list was just bare as all heck |
| 18:55.37 | barque | that was rather the bigger underlying issue |
| 18:55.37 | nsadmin | it always was, unless you've been upside down |
| 18:55.51 | nsadmin | right |
| 18:55.56 | barque | no the world is *at* my feet |
| 18:56.02 | barque | that's different from *under* my feet |
| 18:56.20 | barque | funny how 1 word makes all the difference :D |
| 18:56.21 | nsadmin | for me, the world is in my feet |
| 18:56.30 | barque | nsadmin? barefoot ? :D |
| 18:56.32 | barque | need shoes? |
| 18:56.58 | barque | alrighty, thanks again for the help |
| 18:57.01 | barque | I gotta jet |
| 18:57.06 | barque | is off |
| 18:57.23 | nsadmin | cool! can I have a jet ride? |
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| 19:06.45 | derwaffenss | when in a chroot the cdrw device is obviously not found, so how does one burn cd's while chrooted ? |
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| 19:10.06 | derwaffenss | whats the sources.list entry for etch ? |
| 19:10.16 | derwaffenss | lenny ? |
| 19:10.16 | ompaul | !archive |
| 19:10.17 | dpkg | it has been said that archive is a collection of files. 'tar', 'ar', 'cpio' are all archiving tools. This is *not* the same as compression, which is a separate operation. Debian Archives is the repository for old Debian releases, see http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive . For the package archive, ask me about <snapshot>. Old Debian <ISO> files are archived at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
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| 19:10.36 | ompaul | derwaffenss: ^^ that should help you |
| 19:10.48 | nsadmin | derwaffenss, as you can see etch and lenny have been removed from the general mirrors |
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| 19:10.57 | derwaffenss | it does ompaul |
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| 19:12.26 | ompaul | derwaffenss: your other question http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/nix/chroot/chrt06-Amd6432bitChroot/ar01s06.html |
| 19:12.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | ompaul, and as you see... wrong factoid :P <snapshot> it is |
| 19:12.51 | ompaul | CutMeOwnThroat: Wot? |
| 19:13.02 | derwaffenss | cant click any links ... im in textmode ompaul |
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| 19:13.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | ompaul, this only covers the archived install iso images |
| 19:13.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
| 19:13.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | it sometimes helps to read the factoids one calls up, although one thinks one knows them by heart by now :P |
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| 19:14.01 | ompaul | CutMeOwnThroat: ehhh scroll half way down |
| 19:14.08 | ompaul | on the first link |
| 19:14.12 | ompaul | backs away |
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| 19:14.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | ompaul, ... " For the package archive, ask me about <snapshot>. " |
| 19:14.51 | ompaul | CutMeOwnThroat: half way down here http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive |
| 19:15.00 | ompaul | !snapshot |
| 19:15.00 | dpkg | http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces the old http://snapshot.debian.net/ site that is no longer maintained. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412 |
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| 19:15.58 | ompaul | derwaffenss: well come out of your chroot for a bit and live in the real world or apt-get install lynx2 or some such to help you |
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| 19:16.20 | derwaffenss | no cannot do that |
| 19:16.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | ompaul, that link is release notes |
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| 19:16.55 | derwaffenss | problem is that the chroot is not the same version as the debian system |
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| 19:17.22 | ompaul | gets too confused and wanders off to pay tetris |
| 19:17.28 | slidesinger-lt | I have been trying to figure out the new (split) linux-header files. I understand why it was done, but have no idea how to actually use them and the alsa-source package will not run ./configure because it cannot find the header files. I have looked for symlinks between the two, but cannot find any. I have searched for documentation. Near as I can tell, there is none. Does anyone know where I can find docs or how to resolve th |
| 19:17.34 | derwaffenss | and the system has no apt but the chrooted system does have apt |
| 19:17.35 | sKeiths | i had a message when i was rebooting, to the effect that it was increasing EQ to 512 and to prevent it overflowing. If said the cause of these drops was likely to be a misbehaving driver. any clues on how i can root out the misbehaving driver |
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| 19:20.15 | sKeiths | the exact wording was "[mi] This may be caused my a misbehaving driver monopolizing the server's resources" |
| 19:21.01 | ompaul | derwaffenss: from the links in the first one deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ bo bo-unstable contrib main non-free s/bo/etch |
| 19:21.43 | ompaul | or something like deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian-non-US/ woody/non-US main contrib non-free for the otherstuff |
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| 19:24.11 | derwaffenss | thanks ompaul |
| 19:24.28 | ompaul | yw |
| 19:24.46 | derwaffenss | so i remounted /dev/ on the chrooted /dev |
| 19:24.50 | derwaffenss | it works |
| 19:25.10 | derwaffenss | with mount --bind |
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| 20:25.42 | shingouz | how do i get flash to work again? right now on iceweasel 10.0.8 and flashplugin 11.2r202 which are the latest and greatest on sid to the best of my knowledge. the flash has just stopped working after an apt-get upgrade some time ago. libflashplayer.so seems to be sitting in the correct place |
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| 20:36.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | see what about:plugins says? |
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| 20:37.58 | shingouz | libflashplayer.so and flash 11.2r202, spl and swf should play on it says about:plugins |
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| 20:41.15 | barque | I have a question that may not really be Debian related ... but, given that I'm using Debian for this right now, I'll shoot anyway :P. I've installed libavcodec-dev but the header files haven't updated/aren't there.... any ideas guys? anyone use libavcodec? |
| 20:41.40 | barque | I'm looking at /usr/include/libavcodec |
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| 20:44.09 | Posterdati | hi |
| 20:44.09 | Sm0ke0ut | http://packages.debian.org/nl/squeeze/amd64/libavcodec-dev/filelist |
| 20:44.16 | Posterdati | please I need help with wheezy amd64 + kdescreensaver, I configured it in systemsettings, but screensaver and powersaving won't work |
| 20:44.16 | Sm0ke0ut | @ barque :) |
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| 20:44.36 | barque | Hmm yeah that's ummm incomplete |
| 20:44.39 | barque | I see what's there |
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| 20:44.48 | barque | the stuff is actually not complete by any measure |
| 20:44.52 | barque | I'm missing something or other |
| 20:45.00 | barque | other than libavcodec-dev |
| 20:45.35 | MachinaeWolf | Anybody know how to make the scrolling on touchpads more responsive? It works but you have to aggressively do it/takes a while and you have to push hard :/ |
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| 20:47.41 | barque | see, the avcodec.h that is there .... it doesn't have several definitions that I need |
| 20:47.52 | barque | e.g. AVPacket struct |
| 20:49.07 | Sm0ke0ut | must be another package then :) |
| 20:49.51 | barque | take a look at this: http://cekirdek.pardus.org.tr/~ismail/ffmpeg-docs/avcodec_8h-source.html |
| 20:49.56 | barque | AVPacket is in there |
| 20:50.08 | barque | but the local file on my machine after installing libavcodec-dev doesn't have it |
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| 20:50.47 | Sm0ke0ut | different version? :) |
| 20:50.59 | barque | both 2001 |
| 20:50.59 | barque | :/ |
| 20:51.58 | Sm0ke0ut | the copyright info is, yes. but the file version itself probably isn't |
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| 20:52.34 | barque | Yeah |
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| 20:52.39 | barque | it seems like that really is the case |
| 20:52.44 | barque | But ............ |
| 20:52.50 | barque | if that is old, then the rest might be old |
| 20:52.58 | barque | what's the best way to write over everything? |
| 20:53.08 | barque | like a major update? |
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| 20:53.52 | barque | I even tried aptitude upgrade libavcodec |
| 20:53.53 | barque | nothing |
| 20:53.58 | barque | libavcodec-dev*( |
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| 20:56.10 | Sm0ke0ut | maybe it's easier for you to get the latest version from the official site and compile it yourself :) |
| 20:56.13 | barque | I'm gonna try install ffmpeg and see if that helps |
| 20:56.23 | frikinz | MachinaeWolf: did you try /usr/bin/synclient ? |
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| 20:56.49 | MachinaeWolf | um that might be enabled on the autostart frikinz let me see |
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| 20:57.14 | frikinz | MachinaeWolf: I remember I played with this. You have to run it manually to first try what fits for you |
| 20:57.21 | frikinz | MachinaeWolf: I see "z The "pressure" value." |
| 20:58.04 | g105b | How can I see what process is taking up my CPU? |
| 20:58.15 | barque | Nope, no help |
| 20:59.04 | jhutchins_wk | g105b: top |
| 20:59.26 | g105b | jhutchins_wk: thanks |
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| 20:59.47 | MachinaeWolf | yeha frikinz it's enabled on my autostart http://pastebin.com/yN34kzkF |
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| 21:00.49 | Sm0ke0ut | barque: you can try to add `deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org squeeze main non-free` to your sources list. this repo will usually contain more up-to-date packages |
| 21:00.54 | frikinz | MachinaeWolf: ok then you need to tweak some parameters on this line. I'd first try manually.. |
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| 21:01.05 | barque | Thanks for that I'll try |
| 21:01.37 | MachinaeWolf | Just edit that line frikinz? |
| 21:02.23 | jhutchins_wk | Strange, I can only run iceweasel full screen (F11). If I take it out of full screen mode the top bar goes off screen. |
| 21:03.20 | Posterdati | please I need help with wheezy amd64 + kdescreensaver, I configured it in systemsettings, but screensaver and powersaving won't work |
| 21:03.56 | barque | actually yeah that might've been holding it back |
| 21:03.59 | jhutchins_wk | Posterdati: Possibly something is running that makes the system think you are still active. |
| 21:04.10 | Posterdati | mmmh |
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| 21:04.14 | Sm0ke0ut | fixed @ barque ? :) |
| 21:04.17 | Posterdati | fresh install |
| 21:04.23 | Posterdati | after an hd failure |
| 21:04.25 | barque | we'll see |
| 21:04.36 | frikinz | MachinaeWolf: type synclient -l and you'll see some values. Then you can try to change them with the same command and see the effects. |
| 21:04.50 | MachinaeWolf | ah ok thanks |
| 21:04.58 | frikinz | MachinaeWolf: and later, you can try adding the correct parameter to any of the lines you pasted |
| 21:05.01 | jhutchins_wk | Posterdati: Try messing with things like the timeout and such. Can you test it from the configuration? |
| 21:05.11 | MachinaeWolf | cool |
| 21:05.13 | Posterdati | yes |
| 21:05.20 | barque | sort of... less errors |
| 21:05.39 | Posterdati | the screensaver works only if I click on the lock button |
| 21:07.09 | jhutchins_wk | Posterdati: So it's not detecting idle, possibly due to some application or widget you're running. |
| 21:07.21 | Posterdati | I've got: |
| 21:07.30 | jhutchins_wk | Posterdati: Standard USB kb & mouse? |
| 21:07.31 | Posterdati | amarok |
| 21:07.33 | Posterdati | kmail |
| 21:07.36 | Posterdati | hplip |
| 21:07.39 | Posterdati | knotes |
| 21:07.47 | Posterdati | and kvirc running |
| 21:08.11 | jhutchins_wk | Eliminate them one at a time. |
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| 21:09.24 | Posterdati | but it worked on other machine |
| 21:10.07 | MachinaeWolf | hmm weird frikinz it seems more responsive and I didn't change anything yet :o |
| 21:12.19 | MachinaeWolf | Anybody know anything about issues with these controllers? http://redd.it/ytl69 |
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| 21:39.38 | daggett | hi all |
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| 21:41.24 | daggett | I'm searching for a SIMPLE mail user agent like "Nail" but I can't find Nail in Debian Squeeze's official repositories, nor can I find a SIMPLE solution to send a mail from a bash script without setting up a full MTA (like Exim4). |
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| 21:43.38 | derwaffenss | is it possible to install software into a debian live cd ? |
| 21:43.56 | themill | daggett: perhaps an MTA like nullmailer or ssmtp would be suitable instead of exim. |
| 21:44.23 | abrotman | MUA or MTA? |
| 21:44.52 | daggett | I'm searching for a MUA (I wrote Mail User Agent) |
| 21:45.28 | daggett | no MTA, it's just overkill for sending one mail per day to an external MTA |
| 21:46.18 | frikinz | derwaffenss: the debian live manual has some paragraphs about persistence so YES |
| 21:46.28 | zak_ | iam trying to compile the driver for 0bda:8176 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188CUS 802.11n WLAN, which i downloaded , install kernel source, gcc but still got the error http://pastie.org/5059018 am i missing something? |
| 21:46.52 | Posterdati | hi |
| 21:46.59 | Posterdati | which is the best backend for phonon? |
| 21:47.01 | themill | daggett: I am able to read. There's a reason I suggested a simple MTA... |
| 21:47.04 | themill | Posterdati: which release |
| 21:47.17 | derwaffenss | wheres the debian live manual at ? |
| 21:47.28 | Posterdati | themill: wheezy |
| 21:47.32 | daggett | themill, can you explain why you suggest a simple MTA ? |
| 21:47.35 | themill | Posterdati: phonon-backend-vlc |
| 21:47.44 | Posterdati | ok, tx |
| 21:47.52 | abrotman | derwaffenss: live.debian.net perhaps? |
| 21:47.53 | Posterdati | shall I remove pulseaudio? |
| 21:48.19 | derwaffenss | abrotman: say your prayers little one |
| 21:48.25 | themill | daggett: you either need a very simple program and a simple MTA for this or a much more complicated program. *something* has to have the complexity of doing SMTP at some stage. |
| 21:48.38 | Posterdati | themill: shall I remove pulseaudio? |
| 21:49.05 | daggett | themill, well telnet is able to do SMTP |
| 21:49.06 | abrotman | derwaffenss: good luck |
| 21:49.08 | themill | Posterdati: I've never found it necessary to do this... |
| 21:49.15 | Posterdati | ok |
| 21:49.21 | themill | daggett: have fun writing your own smtp client then. |
| 21:49.41 | daggett | themill, so what I need is a SMTP client |
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| 21:50.18 | themill | daggett: most unix tools tend to use the system MTA. You can convince mutt to do smtp itself and be a command line mailer, but by the time you've done that, you may as well just use something like nullmailer |
| 21:51.08 | daggett | themill, ok, I'll check nullmailer |
| 21:51.24 | Posterdati | I found problem with vice too: Received signal 4. Exiting... |
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| 21:51.52 | Inst | how do i get into #debian-next? |
| 21:52.00 | abrotman | Inst: irc.oftc.net |
| 21:52.25 | Inst | oh, alternate server |
| 21:52.49 | Inst | thanks |
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| 21:55.25 | daggett | themill, ok, I checked what is nullmailer : it is not for me. I just need a SMTP client that I can use on the command line to send mails to a distant MTA (using SSL/TLS) |
| 21:56.02 | abrotman | daggett: why doesn't nullmailer do that? |
| 21:56.22 | daggett | because it's replacing exim4 |
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| 21:56.32 | abrotman | you can configure exim4 to use a smarthost |
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| 21:57.54 | themill | daggett: I think you missed the bit where we were recommending an MUA + MTA setup as being easier anyway. (And the bit where I suggested an MUA that could do it if you wanted) |
| 21:58.00 | daggett | abrotman, yes I was trying this, but Exim is quiet complex, and I don't want something I don't master to be running on my system |
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| 21:58.41 | mil | why is it that still after using tasksel to remove graphical desktop enviroment, my system still boots to gdm and i still have gnome and deps installed? (this is a fresh install) |
| 21:59.07 | dvs | !remove gnome |
| 21:59.08 | dpkg | To remove or purge GNOME 2.x: aptitude remove ~nlibgnome ~nlibbonobo2 ~nliborbit2 ~nlibgnomeui ~nlibgnomevfs2. Use 'purge' instead of 'remove' if that's what you want (ask me about <purge>). |
| 21:59.37 | themill | mil: despite appearances, tasksel can only reliably install tasks not remove them |
| 22:01.26 | mil | ah i see, thanks |
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| 22:04.02 | mil | !remove mail |
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| 22:04.26 | abrotman | remove mail why? |
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| 22:05.47 | mil | abrotman: i inadvertantly hit install "Graphical desktop enviroment" and "Mail server" in tasksel during install, gdm&gnome are gone now, but i definetly dont need a mail server |
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| 22:06.29 | abrotman | mil: you likely do .. some system components may email you |
| 22:07.01 | mil | abrotman: what about the long delay that fails for starting MTA on boot.. |
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| 22:09.46 | gnarface | long delay that fails for starting MTA on boot 99% of the time is caused by you forgot to put localhost in your hosts file |
| 22:10.53 | gnarface | remember kids, 127.0.0.1 doesn't *actually* equal localhost; that's just the expected default but its one that people often fiddle with without understanding the full consequences of their actions |
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| 22:11.53 | genetix | is it possible to run apt-get command from debian cd or HDD syslinux installer ? |
| 22:12.37 | genetix | before installation to be run after installation as root. |
| 22:13.01 | gnarface | genetix: whatever it is you are trying to do its probably easier accomplished with the debian livecd |
| 22:13.14 | genetix | Nah |
| 22:13.30 | genetix | Debian live concept is originally build wrong I am trying to correct it. |
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| 22:14.01 | genetix | So, what do I need to do somekind of unattended? or is it possible to be done? |
| 22:14.14 | gnarface | oh? live concept is wrong? |
| 22:14.17 | gnarface | do tell... |
| 22:14.18 | genetix | yes |
| 22:14.36 | genetix | I do not believe that the idea of 'content in installation' is correct at all. |
| 22:15.18 | genetix | I believe live should mean 'live' and so it would query all package's to be installed and/or basic GUI to be selected after booted |
| 22:15.23 | gnarface | genetix: well, regardless of whatever that is supposed to mean, for unattended installs you want to look into pre-seeding |
| 22:15.50 | genetix | yeah, I was looking at that and the one project to 'Automatic install' something.. |
| 22:16.13 | genetix | 'FAI' it was I believe |
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| 22:16.36 | gnarface | never heard of that but preseeding is a native feature of the installer |
| 22:16.57 | genetix | yeah, adding it to initrd.. |
| 22:17.50 | genetix | o well, if that is what it takes to run 1 single command on final installed content I guess that's what I got to do then. Thanks for the help. |
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| 22:20.22 | gnarface | genetix: i'm pretty sure that with preseeding, editing the initrd is actually the most complicated, easiest to break and least advised way to feed the preseed file to the installer, but hey man if you want to keep making it harder on yourself unnecessarily to prove some sort of masochistic point you have fun |
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| 22:21.24 | gnarface | genetix: pro tip though for completely hands-off installs some network booting and a clever DHCP setup will go a much further way with far less effort (or so i've heard) |
| 22:22.56 | gnarface | genetix: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed you may have better luck using official debian documentation instead of hearsay |
| 22:23.21 | genetix | gnarface, yeah, I am atm reading it took me 3 months to get the project on road |
| 22:24.11 | gnarface | genetix: ouch man you could just install them all by hand and scp config files to them afterwards... |
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| 22:24.37 | gnarface | "bash for loop" scales fine until you have thousands of servers |
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| 22:24.43 | genetix | heh, I actually was considering that option |
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| 22:26.03 | genetix | Although, in a sense or preseed I could while at it fix few other things like where to go next after install is done |
| 22:26.31 | genetix | *of |
| 22:27.42 | genetix | Sad news is, if I do any modifications I will lose capability to update. |
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| 22:28.29 | genetix | anyway, thanks for the help. |
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| 22:29.37 | gnarface | good luck... |
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| 22:37.41 | bttf | anyone have experience installing the redmine package on squeeze ? |
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| 22:41.05 | gnarface | i did it once, successfully |
| 22:41.07 | gnarface | fuck that thing |
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| 22:42.02 | gnarface | bttf: i did it once successfully and i did not enjoy it, i think there are some missing ruby gems dependencies or something that you have to install manually |
| 22:42.39 | bttf | interesting |
| 22:43.29 | gnarface | i forget exactly what |
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| 22:44.18 | gnarface | i think i had a bad apache config to start with too that i had to fix and we were using some dumb addon so that may have complicated things |
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| 22:48.51 | Sbrun | bttf, gnarface: Any opinion on Redmine vs. ChilliProject? |
| 22:49.33 | gnarface | Sbrun: nope, never heard of chilliproject |
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| 22:52.45 | Sbrun | gnarface: It's a fork which is supposedly more open. I'm not sure which project will be stronger in the end. |
| 22:52.49 | Sbrun | Somewhat like LibreOffice/OpenOffice or Jenkins/Hudson... |
| 22:53.10 | gnarface | interesting |
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| 22:55.40 | Sbrun | I've decided to give ChilliProject a try given that Trac is not really progressing all that much. I feel that there are not many free, powerful and comfortable alternatives. |
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| 22:56.42 | gnarface | well, i agree, personally but i have chosen to address it by just instead using a combination of mediawiki and discipline |
| 22:57.35 | gnarface | its perfectly flexible the only problem is you need to assign editors |
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| 22:59.21 | gnarface | it seems like redmine could have passed if it ever got finished |
| 22:59.44 | gnarface | so maybe chilliproject has a fighting chance |
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| 23:35.59 | cantthinkofone | What is the best software for clustering? |
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| 23:50.51 | simonlnu | !best |
| 23:50.51 | dpkg | Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 23:51.10 | dbelange | machine vs man |
| 23:51.12 | dbelange | man vs woman |
| 23:51.15 | dbelange | woman vs your mother |
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| 23:52.11 | cantthinkofone | Something with SSI. I see alot of projects but they all seem to be inactive |
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| 23:52.41 | simonlnu | !search |
| 23:52.42 | dpkg | Please search for things rather than just asking, e.g. 'apt-cache search regex', or with <aptitude search>. The following ways can locate packages that own a file (installed, or candidate for install): 'dpkg -S /bin/foo', <apt-file>, <pdo> (online) and <help find> (bot). <search dpkg> for factoids. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt and ask me about <bot help>. See also <axi-search> <debtags> <dlocate>. |
| 23:53.04 | simonlnu | apt-cache search |
| 23:53.12 | simonlnu | there's a bunch |
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| 23:53.53 | derwaffenss | is there some kind of tool to click links in xterm and auto open a browser |
| 23:54.27 | derwaffenss | for xfce |
| 23:54.31 | simonlnu | doubt it. other terms support that |
| 23:54.53 | derwaffenss | so i can copy paste text from xterm |
| 23:55.08 | simonlnu | that works ;) |
| 23:55.09 | derwaffenss | but i cant open a browser on a link ? |
| 23:55.28 | derwaffenss | double click it and open a browser ? |
| 23:55.40 | cantthinkofone | Any one in perticular? It would be good if it was available on a live cd |
| 23:56.12 | themill | derwaffenss: a terminal smarter than xterm probably does. (konsole certainly does) |
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| 23:56.26 | barque | lol @ name |
| 23:56.40 | derwaffenss | or a tool |
| 23:57.04 | derwaffenss | o/ |
| 23:58.44 | eichmann | Ooooo |
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| 23:58.52 | daggett | themill, ok, I wrote an expect script that does the MUA job really well and supports TLS. Thanks for your help :) |
| 23:59.08 | daggett | bye |
