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| 00:35.09 | missPapaya | samba or nfs? |
| 00:35.31 | missPapaya | frewsxcv: 0wn3d |
| 00:35.32 | frewsxcv | missPapaya: aren't those the same thing? |
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| 00:35.58 | abrotman | no |
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| 00:36.09 | frewsxcv | oh nevermind |
| 00:36.13 | frewsxcv | which one is better? |
| 00:36.37 | abrotman | they both are |
| 00:36.41 | missPapaya | ok |
| 00:36.45 | abrotman | why are two people asking the same question? |
| 00:36.58 | abrotman | which distro is bveing used? |
| 00:37.08 | frewsxcv | debian on the server |
| 00:37.10 | missPapaya | suppose we have a file server in a lab, and want to be able to mount a remote directory on one of the client machines |
| 00:37.20 | missPapaya | we're in the same room ;) |
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| 00:37.29 | abrotman | maybe you should talk to each other? |
| 00:37.39 | missPapaya | we did :P |
| 00:37.48 | abrotman | you're leaving out all of the important details |
| 00:37.50 | frewsxcv | was kidding about accusing them of being the same thing |
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| 00:38.10 | missPapaya | abrotman: what important details? |
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| 00:38.32 | missPapaya | we're running mpd on a machine and want it to be able to access music that's hosted on another machine |
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| 00:40.47 | abrotman | why not sshfs? |
| 00:41.24 | frewsxcv | in my experiences, sshfs is pretty slow |
| 00:41.37 | abrotman | how many streams of music are you listening to? |
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| 00:42.04 | moxie | check this out |
| 00:42.06 | moxie | dpkg --get-selections | grep "\sinstall" | cut -f1 |sort > dpkg.1.bak |
| 00:42.07 | dpkg | moxie: i don't know |
| 00:42.07 | moxie | apt-cache showauto |sort > dpkg.2.bak |
| 00:42.07 | moxie | comm --check-order -23 dpkg.1.bak dpkg.2.bak | sort > dpkg.bak |
| 00:42.07 | abrotman | !tell ispireme|off about away |
| 00:42.09 | missPapaya | 1 stream, and the person who set up the server is using dropbear |
| 00:42.21 | abrotman | sshfs sounds about right to me |
| 00:42.41 | abrotman | moxie: what are you showing us? |
| 00:42.43 | missPapaya | is it easy to set up sshfs with dropbear |
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| 00:42.59 | moxie | abrotman, try it |
| 00:43.05 | abrotman | moxie: no? |
| 00:43.36 | abrotman | missPapaya: never tried ... as for nfs/samba, nfs is probably easier, maybe has more issues you could experience |
| 00:43.41 | moxie | abrotman, not for you then |
| 00:43.51 | abrotman | moxie: you tell us what's wrong with it |
| 00:44.20 | moxie | nothing? |
| 00:44.29 | moxie | why would soemthign be wrong? glass half-full guy? |
| 00:44.32 | abrotman | so why would i want to try it? |
| 00:44.33 | missPapaya | abrotman: alright, I'll keep experimenting |
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| 00:44.40 | moxie | abrotman, because it works |
| 00:44.56 | moxie | run it and look at dpkg.bak |
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| 00:45.17 | abrotman | moxie: aptitude search '~i!~M' |
| 00:45.45 | moxie | abrotman, i hate you |
| 00:45.51 | abrotman | enjoy |
| 00:46.42 | abrotman | moxie: also comm -23 <(sort dpkg.1.bak) <(sort dpkg.2.bak) |
| 00:46.51 | moxie | also crap |
| 00:46.57 | abrotman | your decision |
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| 00:46.59 | moxie | i dont think i installed mlocate manually |
| 00:47.26 | abrotman | moxie: IIRC, things installed during installation are marked as manual |
| 00:47.33 | moxie | damnnnnnnnnnnnnn |
| 00:48.12 | moxie | abrotman, i didnt know aptitude was an official command |
| 00:48.18 | moxie | didnt even know i had that |
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| 01:04.22 | abrotman | ispireme|off: you can msg me when you configure your client to stop doing that |
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| 01:22.09 | ectospasm | is there a generally accepted way to know if you need to reboot after applying a bunch of updates (via apt)? I know I can watch for whether linux-image is upgraded, but is there a more empirical way? Does update-notifier tell you that? |
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| 01:28.17 | zykotick9 | ectospasm: that is something i've wondered about. hope you get an answer ;) |
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| 01:28.51 | abrotman | ectospasm: you're not forced to reboot |
| 01:28.54 | ectospasm | zykotick9: I'm installing update-notifier... it pulls in a bunch of stuff I probably don't want, but maybe it will tell me... |
| 01:29.24 | zykotick9 | ectospasm: ya, no way update-notifier is going on my system ;) i run no DE. |
| 01:29.35 | ectospasm | abrotman: no, I know. But I'd like to be able to see whether I should (new kernel, or system services that for whatever reason can't simply be restarted) |
| 01:29.51 | abrotman | update-notifier will tell you |
| 01:30.21 | Infiltrator | abrotman: Do you know of any non-DE program to do that? |
| 01:31.04 | abrotman | Infiltrator: that's not a DE program, it's an X program AIUI |
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| 01:31.40 | Infiltrator | abrotman: Rephase: Any CLI way to do the same? |
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| 01:32.04 | abrotman | Infiltrator: to notify you about updates, or notify you about a 'required' reboot? |
| 01:32.16 | zykotick9 | abrotman: update-notifier would ONLY (expected it to be a lot heavier) install 23 new programs ;) |
| 01:32.27 | Infiltrator | abrotman: To notify about a recommended reboot. |
| 01:32.57 | abrotman | Infiltrator: it creates a file which you can check at CLI .. not sure if the program will run without X running |
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| 01:34.21 | Infiltrator | abrotman: By 'it' do you mean update-notifier; or apt/dpkg? |
| 01:34.45 | un214 | I'm quite sure he ran something along the lines of apt-get install update-notifier and read what it would install |
| 01:35.23 | abrotman | Infiltrator: the former |
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| 01:35.48 | Infiltrator | abrotman: Unfortunate. |
| 01:36.28 | abrotman | Infiltrator: you'll live |
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| 01:37.05 | Infiltrator | abrotman: Not necessarily. |
| 01:37.12 | abrotman | shucks |
| 01:37.12 | zykotick9 | abrotman: besides a linux-image update, is there anything else in default debian repo that requires a reboot on update? |
| 01:37.26 | abrotman | zykotick9: the kernel doesn't *require* a reboot, but things may get flaky |
| 01:37.49 | abrotman | zykotick9: i used to reboot for libc6 updates, otherwise, not that I'm aware of |
| 01:38.01 | zykotick9 | abrotman: "may get flaky" doesn't sit well with me ;) stability is my #1 concern, that's why i run debian stable. |
| 01:38.07 | abrotman | zykotick9: also, if the kernel update you install is a new ABI version, it won't affect you at all |
| 01:38.11 | zykotick9 | abrotman: thanks. |
| 01:38.20 | abrotman | granted, that new ABI probably implies a security update |
| 01:38.49 | zykotick9 | abrotman: does the security-announce mailing list state when reboots are required? |
| 01:39.01 | abrotman | zykotick9: i don't believe so, but this would be easy to check |
| 01:39.29 | zykotick9 | abrotman: "i don't believe so" that unfortunate. |
| 01:39.32 | abrotman | wonders if squeeze might make the entire release cycle without a kernel ABI change |
| 01:39.40 | abrotman | zykotick9: you can still look |
| 01:40.16 | un214 | that in-memory kernel patcher is nice when somebody bothers to prepare a patch for it |
| 01:40.39 | zykotick9 | abrotman: i susbribe, so i know when there are update (i almost look forward to them, they are so infrequent on squeeze) |
| 01:40.45 | abrotman | un214: ksplice? |
| 01:40.51 | un214 | yeah that's it |
| 01:41.15 | zykotick9 | abrotman: never remember seeing a "reboot" suggestion, but i don't read most of them carefully. |
| 01:41.27 | abrotman | zykotick9: i don't see anything implying as such |
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| 01:42.23 | zykotick9 | i am surprised there isn't a terminal method to see if a reboot is required (seeing as there is a GUI method of doing so ;) |
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| 01:43.19 | un214 | maybe because if not running X, "reboot required?" boils down to "is kernel package being updated?" |
| 01:43.33 | Lin | http://pastebin.com/Nh8PK93U |
| 01:43.40 | Lin | Is that how the interface is configured? |
| 01:44.10 | zykotick9 | un214: what i've learned. just watch for linux-image and possibly libc |
| 01:44.18 | abrotman | Lin: what doesn't work ? |
| 01:44.48 | Lin | abrotman, when I try to ping, it came out to be an unknown host. |
| 01:45.01 | abrotman | Lin: ping by IP or hostname? |
| 01:45.08 | Lin | like ping google.com |
| 01:45.20 | abrotman | Lin: ping 8.8.8.8 |
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| 01:46.23 | un214 | even libc doesn't require a reboot |
| 01:47.15 | Lin | it says the host is unreachable. |
| 01:47.31 | Lin | the strange thing is I can't enable the wireless switch on my laptop |
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| 01:48.08 | Lin | So I don't know if there's a problem with the Password or what. |
| 01:48.35 | abrotman | un214: it doesn't, i said it was my preference |
| 01:48.50 | abrotman | Lin: tried the rfkill package? |
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| 01:49.28 | Lin | abrotmanm is it included in squeezy main? |
| 01:49.43 | abrotman | judd: info rfkill |
| 01:49.44 | judd | Package rfkill (utils, optional) in squeeze/i386: tool for enabling and disabling wireless devices. Version: 0.4-1; Size: 7.4k; Installed: 60k; Homepage: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Documentation/rfkill |
| 01:49.47 | abrotman | apparently! |
| 01:50.45 | Lin | abrotman: unable to locate package. |
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| 01:54.45 | Lin | The os detect my wifi but cannot seem to get it working. |
| 01:55.11 | abrotman | Lin: i'd concentrate on getting the wired interface to work so you can get pacakges first |
| 01:55.36 | Lin | abrotman, the wired connection is working. Just not the wireless |
| 01:55.42 | Solid-State | abrotman: If he can see wifi points then his hardware may already be recognized |
| 01:56.52 | abrotman | Lin: if you can't ping, it's not working |
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| 01:57.32 | un214 | try traceroute |
| 01:57.53 | Solid-State | check ifconfig to see if you're being assigned an IP |
| 01:58.06 | un214 | now there's a good idea |
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| 02:09.09 | Darxus | Trying to install and upgrade debian for the first time in years. Upgrading from stable to testing, having problems with python dependencies, and apt-get wanting to install a bunch of stuff, like all of gnome. I used to be pretty good at handling these things, but this looks pretty bad. Suggestions? |
| 02:09.25 | Darxus | Upgrading from a fresh stable install. |
| 02:10.15 | abrotman | should note, it's far easier to do the dist-upgrade without X installed |
| 02:10.24 | Darxus | Heh. |
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| 02:11.13 | Darxus | I'll let it remove the 32 packages and try to reinstall them later or something. |
| 02:11.23 | abrotman | good plan |
| 02:11.39 | Darxus | Kind of disappointing. |
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| 02:13.22 | Darxus | I see wheezy / testing has gnome 3.4, so I'm about to find out, but... |
| 02:13.45 | Darxus | What is debian doing about gnome dropping support for the gnome 2 desktop? |
| 02:14.18 | sney | being taken along for the ride, mainly |
| 02:14.55 | Darxus | Is there a gnome 2 like UI of some kind? |
| 02:15.08 | un214 | I took kde awhile ago |
| 02:15.09 | sney | but also: the desktop task in wheezy brings in xfce4 by default, rather than gnome 3. also, the cinnamon desktop (modified gnome 3 with more traditional desktop setup, from Mint) is in the early stages of getting into debian |
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| 02:15.19 | un214 | pain's gone and done with already for me |
| 02:15.32 | Darxus | sney: Ah, cinnamon sounds good to me, thanks. |
| 02:15.47 | Darxus | sney: Is there a cinnamon package or something? |
| 02:15.58 | abrotman | not yet |
| 02:15.59 | sney | it's not in the repos yet but it's on mentors, builds on wheezy/sid, and it'll be in sid probably a little while after wheezy is released |
| 02:16.24 | Darxus | Thanks. |
| 02:16.25 | sney | and I would be surprised if it doesn't wind up in wheezy-backports a few months down the line. |
| 02:16.30 | abrotman | and hopefully it makes it to bpo |
| 02:16.41 | abrotman | (though i'm loving gnome3 myself) |
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| 02:17.51 | riex | Hello. I got a problem with phpmyadmin, how to modify phpmyadmin only allows localhost by default for logging,. |
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| 02:18.05 | Darxus | Heh, it's been a while since I've seen a bot doing channel limits. Do join floods still happen? |
| 02:18.14 | abrotman | form time to time |
| 02:18.16 | abrotman | from |
| 02:18.30 | sney | riex: check your site configs in your webserver (e.g. apache( |
| 02:18.42 | riex | sney: Where is that file? :P |
| 02:18.54 | riex | And yes i am using apache |
| 02:20.11 | sney | riex: er, last I checked, /etc/httpd.conf.d/ |
| 02:20.24 | sney | or something like that. |
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| 02:20.50 | riex | sney: not anymore :p |
| 02:21.09 | sney | I don't admin an apache server currently. it'll be in some directory under /etc. |
| 02:21.48 | riex | ok :p |
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| 02:29.14 | Darxus | Now it wants to remove linux-sound-base. Is that going to completely break sound? |
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| 02:29.43 | Darxus | There is no way a non-computer geek could deal with this :( |
| 02:29.48 | abrotman | Darxus: you can install it again later .. get the dist-upgrade finished |
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| 02:35.29 | gnarface | Darxus: long time since your last update huh? |
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| 02:37.32 | McQueen | http://pastebin.com/YSCJHuph |
| 02:37.44 | McQueen | whats theproblem? |
| 02:38.10 | McQueen | the first attemp getting error nc not found |
| 02:38.41 | McQueen | but i can see nc installed at he second attemp |
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| 02:39.05 | McQueen | any idea? |
| 02:39.43 | gnarface | McQueen: yea you're on a god damned pocket calculator not a debian system |
| 02:40.03 | Darxus | gnarface: Been using ubuntu for years. Was using debian before that. |
| 02:41.23 | Darxus | Maybe it would be less bad if I just installed from a weekly snapshot of testing? |
| 02:42.23 | gnarface | Darxus: sorry i missed the part about how you were upgrading to testing. i'd say for testing, yes the trick is to pick the right week, however you get it. (by luck or by snapshot) |
| 02:42.26 | Darxus | Which is recommended at this point, if you want to run testing? Installing stable than upgrading, or installing a snapshot of testing directly? |
| 02:42.42 | Darxus | s/than/then |
| 02:43.08 | gnarface | Darxus: as a general rule upgrading is actually the recommended approach because usually the testing installer is in a much worse state than the install.... |
| 02:43.24 | gnarface | Darxus: but there are plenty of histroical exceptions |
| 02:43.39 | Darxus | That's about what I remembered, thanks. |
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| 02:46.40 | gnarface | McQueen: unless you are on a Debian system, in which case I'm sorry. As far as i can tell the problem is still in something the android sdk is doing wrong though... could be a simple as missing the PATH thoguh |
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| 02:47.23 | McQueen | gnarface, thank you |
| 02:47.52 | gnarface | McQueen: the thing about there being two versions of netcat available doesn't throw you does it? |
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| 02:49.31 | McQueen | yeah... but its looking for on the android drive... it must run on my pc drive...? |
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| 02:50.25 | McQueen | gnarface, yeah... but its looking for on the android drive... it must run on my pc drive...? |
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| 02:50.49 | gnarface | McQueen: i don't know but you do need to figure out where it is looking for it |
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| 02:51.26 | McQueen | gnarface, yeap. i couldnt find the way. so i am here :) |
| 02:51.36 | lin | http://pastebin.com/Nh8PK93U |
| 02:51.47 | gnarface | McQueen: did you try the documentation? |
| 02:51.51 | lin | is there anything wrong with the configuration? |
| 02:52.01 | gnarface | McQueen: certainly the android sdk has a README or something that explains all this... |
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| 02:52.55 | gnarface | lin: yea you're using your gateway ip as your network ip. don't do that. |
| 02:53.00 | McQueen | gnarface, i am reading and i am newbie... so its little bit hard to understand the problem for me... |
| 02:54.26 | lin | gnarface, then what's the proper digit for the gateaway? Shouldn't be fairly similar to the ip? |
| 02:54.30 | McQueen | gnarface, thanks again. i have to sleep :) |
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| 02:54.43 | gnarface | McQueen: well nc is typically located in /bin or /usr/bin and both of those are in your shell environment variable PATH (type: echo $PATH) so that is how the shell finds it when you just type 'nc'. if your adb script, whatever that is is missing that then... i don't know why. |
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| 02:55.09 | gnarface | lin: it should be 0. nothing restricts the gateway to 1 except convention |
| 02:56.26 | lin | gnarface: so it should be 192.168.0.0? |
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| 02:57.24 | gnarface | lin: no, your netmask is 255.255.255.0 so all three of the first octets have to match with your ip and gateway. |
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| 02:57.42 | gnarface | lin: http://www.subnet-calculator.com/ here just use this |
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| 02:59.32 | gnarface | lin: or maybe this one if that one is too confusing: http://jodies.de/ipcalc |
| 02:59.53 | gnarface | lin: just type in your ip and leave everything else at the default |
| 03:00.03 | bantamug | hi, having a few weird problems with a fresh Squeeze install. went from standard CD, installed gdm/gnome-core/xorg - now I can't get NetworkManager to start (the service) or GDM to auto-start on boot - any ideas? |
| 03:00.37 | Infiltrator | bantamug: So when you start, all you get is a shell? |
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| 03:02.07 | bantamug | Infiltrator: "service network-manager status" tells me it's not running and "service network-manager start" reports its trying to start but the status stays the same. |
| 03:02.14 | bantamug | Infiltrator: not sure which log to be looking in |
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| 03:03.56 | bantamug | Also, why is "(live)" written in my promt? (live)bantamug@x40:~/tmp$ |
| 03:04.35 | jagginess | bantamug, because we can see ya |
| 03:05.22 | bantamug | jagginess: eep! |
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| 03:05.51 | lin | I'm still lost at what do you mean by combining all three octlets. |
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| 03:06.20 | Darxus | Great, even after the upgrade it can't detect my display :( |
| 03:06.28 | Darxus | This isn't going to work. |
| 03:06.33 | Darxus | Display is listed as "unknown". Very much like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/958439 |
| 03:06.33 | Infiltrator | bantamug: What do you get if you run nm directly? |
| 03:06.56 | bantamug | Infiltrator: (live)root@x40:~# NetworkManager |
| 03:06.56 | bantamug | (live)root@x40:~# |
| 03:07.11 | bantamug | Infiltrator: nothing, it would appear |
| 03:07.14 | gnarface | lin: nevermind that just copy your settings from here: http://jodies.de/ipcalc?host=192.168.1.1 |
| 03:07.29 | gnarface | lin: (scroll down to the bottom) |
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| 03:08.11 | Infiltrator | bantamug: Sorry; you need to do 'NetworkManager --no-daemon'. |
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| 03:08.29 | lin | Yeah, what am I'm looking for exactly? |
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| 03:09.11 | gnarface | lin: address, network, netmask and broadcast. just like from your /etc/network/interfaces file. ignore the rest |
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| 03:10.04 | lin | So the represent the correct settings for my configuration? |
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| 03:10.40 | gnarface | lin: all you had to do to your old config file was change "network 192.168.1.1" to "network 192.168.1.0" |
| 03:11.17 | bantamug | Infiltrator: "Could not get the system bus. Make sure the message bus daemon is running!" |
| 03:12.02 | bantamug | Infiltrator: and a bunch of other errors that look related |
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| 03:12.24 | Infiltrator | bantamug: Try starting dbus, then. |
| 03:12.51 | lin | gnarface, ok. Then there's no other mistake other than you've listed? I was wondering about the wpa, if I have connected to a wireless access point with wpa2 security, should I put "wpa2-psk"? |
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| 03:13.47 | bantamug | Infiltrator: (live)root@x40:~# service dbus status |
| 03:13.48 | bantamug | could not access PID file for dbus ... failed! |
| 03:14.09 | Infiltrator | bantamug: So start it. :) |
| 03:14.12 | gnarface | lin: i just assumed that part was correct. i have no idea about your wifi access point. |
| 03:14.40 | bantamug | Infiltrator: sorry, that's after issuing service dbus start |
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| 03:15.27 | Infiltrator | Ah; righto. |
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| 03:16.29 | lin | Because I'm having trouble setting up my wifi interface, given that there's no mistake regarding the configuration file, I'm not sure what the problem is. |
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| 03:18.03 | sney | lin: what wifi adapter is it |
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| 03:18.28 | Infiltrator | bantamug: Have a look at http://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-daemon.1.html#lbAH |
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| 03:18.42 | gnarface | lin: so... you probably don't even know that its almost unheard-of to even specify a static ip and network configuration when using a wireless access point, do you? |
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| 03:19.30 | lin | sney: atheros ar9285 wireless network adapte |
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| 03:19.42 | gnarface | !ar9285 |
| 03:19.43 | dpkg | The Atheros AR9285 PCI-E wireless LAN chipset is supported by the mainline ath9k driver since Linux 2.6.29, ask me about <ath9k>. See also Debian bug #577555. |
| 03:19.58 | sney | doesn't need any firmware, and pretty solid usually. hmm. |
| 03:20.11 | sney | lin: are you able to associate to your access point using iwconfig and ifconfig? |
| 03:20.12 | gnarface | #577555 |
| 03:20.17 | gnarface | !#577555 |
| 03:20.23 | gnarface | oh maybe that's just on oftc |
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| 03:20.50 | gnarface | sney: i'm assuming now that he hasn't even configured his access point |
| 03:21.02 | gnarface | hopes it is at least plugged in |
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| 03:21.27 | lin | sney: yes |
| 03:21.29 | sney | 577555 is about bad performance and connection drops, so even when affected by that bug he'd still be able to associate |
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| 03:22.25 | lin | there's also an encryption key off status, which is weird. |
| 03:22.31 | lin | because it has wpa2 security. |
| 03:22.42 | gnarface | lin: so, the way this works is first you read your manual for your wireless access point, and you set it up and then you have IT tell the laptop what the network settings are (via dhcp) |
| 03:23.19 | lin | gnarface: what manual, do you mean the debian wiki page? |
| 03:23.20 | gnarface | lin: that simplifies your interfaces file immensely and it can then be identical on all the machines on your network and the access point just handles assignment of ip addresses |
| 03:23.31 | sney | just because something *has* wpa2 security doesn't mean it's turned on. wpa2 is something you need to configure |
| 03:23.54 | gnarface | lin: no i mean the manufacturer's provided user manual that came with your wireless access point. the only part of this equation that has NOTHING to do with Debian and its where you should have started |
| 03:24.25 | lin | gnarface, uh, I'm sure there's no manual that came with this computer..... |
| 03:24.37 | gnarface | gives up |
| 03:24.50 | Infiltrator | gnarface: I was wondering when you would. :) |
| 03:25.51 | Infiltrator | lin: When did you get your WAP and what have you done with it since then? |
| 03:25.57 | jagginess | lin, when you say "weird" it means you don't know how things are working, (and you should never be guessing on who can help you-- people who answer you want you to at least know you're listening/learning and "thinking" on what they're saying to you) |
| 03:26.42 | jagginess | looks at his puppy and thinks he listens to him |
| 03:26.57 | Infiltrator | jagginess: Puppies lie. :) |
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| 03:28.18 | sney | lin: in case of confusion, what gnarface means by "access point" is the small box, not connected to your computer, that hosts the wireless network. you may think of it as a "router" |
| 03:28.54 | lin | Yes. |
| 03:29.43 | sney | so when he says the manual that came with your access point, he means a book or pdf that probably says "linksys" on it |
| 03:30.06 | sney | but you already told me you can connect with ifconfig and iwconfig, so... |
| 03:30.07 | jagginess | or the maker of the AP router box (like a linksys manual, or dlink manual) |
| 03:30.11 | lin | Oh. You meant the router's manual. |
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| 03:30.50 | gnarface | lin: yea what did you just think you could plug it in and forget about it? |
| 03:31.13 | lin | No, I thought you're referring to the wireless adapter. |
| 03:31.52 | gnarface | i think my point stands as is |
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| 03:33.23 | snowrichard | hi just installed an older version of debian on my compaq es40 alpha server.... No network mirrors exist for lenny, so I got the 3 CD set |
| 03:33.50 | lin | So I have to access the wireless router's settings and transfer the correct setting to the receiving laptop? |
| 03:33.59 | gnarface | dpkg: tell snowrichard about lenny |
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| 03:34.36 | snowrichard | i am in the webchat i don't see any msg from dpkg |
| 03:34.59 | snowrichard | got it |
| 03:35.12 | snowrichard | lenny was last version to support my architecture ALPHA |
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| 03:35.27 | ectospasm | yeesh |
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| 03:35.47 | ectospasm | DEC went out of business how many years ago? |
| 03:36.14 | snowrichard | hey i have this antique server i wanted to do something with it lol |
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| 03:36.36 | gnarface | snowrichard: wow oh sorry. uh... i'm guessing you want the snapshot archive. if you talk to the bot it knows how to get lenny updated from the archives to latest lenny |
| 03:36.42 | snowrichard | i'm using it now |
| 03:36.47 | Infiltrator | snowrichard: Well, if you've got the CDs and got it installed, what's the problem you're having? |
| 03:37.03 | ectospasm | snowrichard: http://www.alphalinux.org/ looks like the last post was in 2008 |
| 03:37.11 | snowrichard | debian was not the problem |
| 03:37.13 | gnarface | !alpha |
| 03:37.13 | dpkg | WANTED: loving home for CPU architecture. Alpha is housebroken, and has had all its shots. Friendly, affectionate and energetic! Contact DEC (oops, Compaq! (oops, HP! (oops, the morgue))) for details. http://www.debian.org/ports/alpha/ http://alphalinux.org/wiki/ #alpha on irc.freenode.net. Debian 6.0 ("Squeeze") drops official support for the Alpha architecture. See also <qotd230>. |
| 03:37.27 | snowrichard | i wasted 24 hours trying to get gentoo alpha to work with my graphic card |
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| 03:38.53 | gnarface | snowrichard: if you one day succeed i say those were hours well spent |
| 03:38.57 | snowrichard | i'm using the debian now |
| 03:39.13 | gnarface | how many megahurts? |
| 03:39.16 | jagginess | snowrichard, are you also using the mouse? |
| 03:39.21 | snowrichard | yes |
| 03:39.37 | un214 | status on wheezy? |
| 03:39.38 | jagginess | snowrichard, so that means you have a gui working.. see it was easy wasnt it? |
| 03:40.03 | lin | So how does Debian network setup work because I was reading the wiki and didn't mention anything about first configuring a router. |
| 03:40.07 | snowrichard | got 2 mice one with a ps/2 port - needed so the keyboard srm console starts and a microsoft usb mouse |
| 03:40.10 | jagginess | un214, i'm still giving bugreports on it |
| 03:40.19 | sney | snowrichard: archive still hosts lenny. deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ lenny main |
| 03:40.56 | gnarface | snowrichard: http://ioquake3.org/get-it/source-codes/ here is something you can try to do with it |
| 03:41.04 | snowrichard | ok i did not know how to set that during the netinstall cd |
| 03:41.50 | sney | snowrichard: I'm not sure the netinst supports it but you can set it now and get any other software from the network |
| 03:42.00 | snowrichard | anyway i have all the packages i might need on the 3 cds |
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| 03:42.22 | un214 | can't you edit the path in the file in the netinst? |
| 03:42.45 | snowrichard | it had a choice to put one in manually but i didn't have the exact url |
| 03:43.18 | un214 | ah |
| 03:43.22 | snowrichard | my network is pretty fast 4G LTRE |
| 03:43.24 | snowrichard | LTE |
| 03:43.42 | snowrichard | so downloading the 3CD images simultaneously took about 20 minutes |
| 03:44.12 | jagginess | snowrichard, that's a pretty powerful on 4g, 3 cds 20 minutes.. impressive |
| 03:44.38 | snowrichard | when i am downloading 1 file at a time i have gotten up to 3 MB /sec |
| 03:44.39 | jagginess | snowrichard, or maybe they all still 0 bytes mwahahaa |
| 03:45.27 | snowrichard | it beats the heck out of the Hughes net satellite i had before |
| 03:45.52 | snowrichard | 1.5 second latency to start any connection |
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| 03:46.49 | Infiltrator | 3MB/s?! :'( |
| 03:46.57 | snowrichard | well i have to take some medication , i'm schizophrenic and have missed some sleep yesterday |
| 03:47.00 | snowrichard | brb |
| 03:47.53 | jagginess | yeah.. i have 3meg/sec here.. (30+MBps cable) -- dunno exactly about 4g |
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| 03:48.40 | jagginess | was reading some 4g's go to 42mbit.. so 3meg/second is possible |
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| 03:49.17 | snowrichard | i'm in an internet dead zone, too far for cable/dsl hookup wireless or satellite or dial up was only choice |
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| 03:49.45 | Infiltrator | Damn you all. :( |
| 03:50.04 | Infiltrator | I'm lucky to get 1Mb/s on ADSL. |
| 03:50.27 | snowrichard | its a small town ATT has not even got 4G here and the dsl only reaches about 8000 ft from the phone co |
| 03:50.39 | jagginess | Infiltrator, you in australia? |
| 03:50.41 | snowrichard | so only a small part of town can get it |
| 03:51.14 | Infiltrator | jagginess: Yeah. :( |
| 03:51.16 | snowrichard | cable line crosses my drive way but the house is too far from the road they didn't want to build the drop |
| 03:51.37 | jagginess | Infiltrator, australia internet sux that's why i was asking hehehe |
| 03:51.49 | Infiltrator | jagginess: I know. That's why I was complaining. |
| 03:52.29 | Infiltrator | And I'm in the bloody city, too. I feel sorry for the folks out in the bush. |
| 03:52.32 | snowrichard | i have the verizon 4g LTE Home Fusion -- its got an external antenna and a wireless router with 4 eth ports inside |
| 03:52.48 | Infiltrator | Anyway, enough sulking. |
| 03:52.55 | Infiltrator | snowrichard: What's the problem you're having with Debian? |
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| 03:53.05 | snowrichard | nothing works great |
| 03:53.11 | jagginess | hhehe |
| 03:53.16 | snowrichard | gentoo didn't work for me |
| 03:53.24 | jagginess | 4g you cant complain ;) |
| 03:54.31 | snowrichard | the dhcp during the install suggested a reasonable hostname and domain even |
| 03:55.01 | snowrichard | domain lan hostname based on ip |
| 03:56.54 | snowrichard | have you seen these very tiny form factor android mini pc about the size of a flash drive |
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| 03:57.01 | snowrichard | mk802 |
| 03:57.22 | snowrichard | they have ubuntu image can run on them too |
| 03:57.55 | jagginess | that looks interesting, i'm still waiting for my stupid raspberrypi (seriously) |
| 03:58.14 | snowrichard | they didn't produce enough of those for the demand |
| 03:59.01 | snowrichard | for $75 on ebay you can get the mk802 II it has an 1Ghz Arm A10 proc 1gb Dram hdmi out and 3 usb |
| 03:59.18 | snowrichard | with a wireless keypad /mouse |
| 03:59.56 | Rusty1 | get it for less on amazon ak802 |
| 04:00.00 | sney | !ot |
| 04:00.01 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 04:00.12 | snowrichard | ok i'll shut up |
| 04:00.13 | snowrichard | lo |
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| 04:02.17 | jagginess | i bet its possible to put debian arm on those things |
| 04:02.39 | sney | yep, armel/armhf depending on the cpu |
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| 04:07.36 | pclov3r | any idea on a Debian 7 release date or still TBD? |
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| 04:14.34 | damacus | TBD |
| 04:15.06 | damacus | http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?release=wheezy&patch=ign&pending=ign&merged=ign&fnewer=ign&fnewerval=10&rc=1&sortby=severity&sorto=desc&cpopcon=1&crttags=1 |
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| 04:18.22 | sevenfourk | fellas. Maybe you know how I could compile application for i686 platform on my amd64 box. Currently I got this error /usr/bin/ld.bfd.real: i386 architecture of input file `dwmstatus.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output |
| 04:18.59 | dima` | sevenfourk: what's saying this? the linker? |
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| 04:19.32 | sevenfourk | yeah |
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| 04:20.14 | sevenfourk | http://paste.debian.net/201178/ |
| 04:21.08 | sevenfourk | I guess I need gcc 32 stuff |
| 04:21.21 | dima` | can you paste the full link command? you're hiding it |
| 04:21.59 | KsM | jagginess: (back to the last conversation of my gpu sharing my ram) I just compiled and got into my new kernel, and it's taken about 8mb more ram this time |
| 04:22.51 | sevenfourk | dima`: I'm not hiding anything, that's all I got, do you want to see Makefile? |
| 04:23.07 | dima` | sevenfourk: your Makefile is hiding the command. Tell it to not |
| 04:23.30 | dima` | I know exactly what the issue is, though. Looking for the option to force this. Give me a minute |
| 04:23.33 | sevenfourk | one sec |
| 04:24.21 | sevenfourk | hm, I'm not aware of how to verbose output |
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| 04:25.35 | gnarface | thought it was the default |
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| 04:28.03 | dima` | verbosity is set by the makefile. There's no defualt |
| 04:28.23 | dima` | rather, the makefile has to be explicitly written to hide useful information, but many are, for some reason |
| 04:28.58 | dima` | I'm 90% sure what you have to do is pass in -m32 to the linker as well as the compiler, and to make sure you have the gcc-multilib package installed |
| 04:29.17 | dima` | you may or may not be doing the first thing (can't know because you're obfuscating the command) |
| 04:29.35 | dima` | second thing may be fine too. I'm installing the multilib gcc here, so that I can test |
| 04:30.37 | sevenfourk | found interesting article http://wiki.debian.org/BuildingCrossCompilers#Installing_a_Cross_Compiler |
| 04:30.39 | dima` | If the Makefile is small, I can look at it. If it's some huge autogenerated mess, I'd rather not look at it. You can try doing something like "V=1 make" |
| 04:30.55 | sevenfourk | ok, you got it |
| 04:31.01 | dima` | this is sometimes used to turn off obfuscation |
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| 04:31.29 | dima` | sevenfourk: still need a minute to finish downloading the -multilib package. :) |
| 04:31.29 | sevenfourk | https://gist.github.com/3903712 |
| 04:31.46 | sevenfourk | :-) |
| 04:32.24 | sevenfourk | you're from Eastern Europe? I fairly guess by name |
| 04:32.36 | dima` | USA. Close enough :) |
| 04:32.45 | sevenfourk | :-D |
| 04:32.58 | sevenfourk | It's Dmitry ? |
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| 04:34.55 | dima` | confirmed. Add -m32 to the LDLIBS and make sure gcc-multilib is installed |
| 04:35.22 | dima` | I mean LDFLAGS, not LDLIBS |
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| 04:37.27 | sevenfourk | ok, that worked yeah, thanks |
| 04:38.25 | sevenfourk | though, some other errors appeared, I'm gonna dance now long and go crazy |
| 04:38.51 | dima` | feel free to ask |
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| 04:39.53 | sevenfourk | no, that're gonna be silly questions, I guess I better dig by myself |
| 04:42.50 | sevenfourk | only that I got some errors concerning "/usr/bin/ld.bfd.real: skipping incompatible" |
| 04:43.35 | sevenfourk | what soft you tried on compiling? |
| 04:43.43 | sevenfourk | testing.. |
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| 04:48.41 | ragedragon | hello; i have an issue with designer-qt4 |
| 04:48.51 | ragedragon | it don't start |
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| 04:49.06 | ragedragon | any idea of this issue please? |
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| 04:51.18 | sevenfourk | try to launch it from console..maybe you'll some errors |
| 04:52.48 | ragedragon | tried but get nothing... |
| 04:53.32 | ragedragon | no segfault; only the sw seems to be freezed |
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| 04:53.41 | ragedragon | frozen sorry |
| 04:55.58 | sevenfourk | your question is like: "mom, my bike doesn't ride what can I do?" hard to help on limited information |
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| 05:00.05 | ragedragon | understand sevenfourk ;) |
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| 05:02.37 | sevenfourk | http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 05:02.49 | ectospasm | ragedragon: if that program offers it, you may be able to start it with verbose or debugging turned on... |
| 05:03.06 | ragedragon | ok will check |
| 05:03.11 | ectospasm | ragedragon: you can also check in *top to see if it's consuming a lot of CPU/RAM... |
| 05:03.14 | ragedragon | the installed revision is: |
| 05:03.52 | ragedragon | 4:4.8.2+dfsg-2 (testing) |
| 05:04.19 | ragedragon | for qt4-designer and his lib |
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| 05:05.01 | ectospasm | I don't use that program, so I dunno |
| 05:05.22 | ectospasm | ragedragon: maybe look at the program in strace, see what's hanging and work your way up from there |
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| 05:05.28 | ragedragon | ok |
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| 05:06.57 | ectospasm | ragedragon: this is probably not the best forum to be troubleshooting qt4-designer |
| 05:07.06 | ragedragon | just get gdb output: |
| 05:07.14 | ragedragon | Starting program: /usr/bin/designer-qt4 |
| 05:07.15 | ragedragon | [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] |
| 05:07.15 | ragedragon | Using host libthread_db library "/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1". |
| 05:07.15 | ragedragon | [New Thread 0xb1b2ab70 (LWP 25208)] |
| 05:07.15 | ragedragon | [New Thread 0xb0f37b70 (LWP 25209)] |
| 05:07.15 | ragedragon | [New Thread 0xb0637b70 (LWP 25210)] |
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| 05:08.53 | ragedragon | http://pastebin.com/kNJLBq0Y |
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| 05:27.57 | ragedragon | ectospasm, here is the strace: http://pastebin.com/tugNjMWm |
| 05:28.11 | ragedragon | at the end, when the sw is frozen |
| 05:28.21 | ragedragon | no window is displayed |
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| 05:29.17 | ectospasm | ragedragon: I dunno... looks like org.freedesktop.NetworkManager is involved... have you tried restarting Network Manager? |
| 05:29.31 | ectospasm | I'm not even sure what the best way to do that is... /-; |
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| 05:29.50 | ragedragon | trying.... |
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| 05:35.22 | ragedragon | after restarted network manager still get the same issue |
| 05:35.33 | ragedragon | no error on network manager restart |
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| 05:36.30 | ectospasm | ragedragon: I dunno then... do you have another system to see if it's a wider problem? |
| 05:36.56 | apm1 | when are the wheezy beta images coming ? |
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| 05:37.13 | ectospasm | beta images... they're already there... |
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| 05:37.55 | apm1 | ectospasm, sorry my bad i meant beta 3 :p |
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| 05:38.11 | ectospasm | ah, I dunno |
| 05:38.21 | ectospasm | I thought the only difference is an updated installer? |
| 05:38.54 | ragedragon | ectospasm, no idea how to check. |
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| 05:39.39 | ectospasm | ragedragon: if you have another Linux system, you can install qt4-designer on it, see if you get the same problem |
| 05:40.07 | ragedragon | ok |
| 05:40.10 | ragedragon | will try |
| 05:40.14 | ectospasm | ragedragon: you aren't mixing and matching squeeze and wheezy (or sid) packages, are you? |
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| 05:40.30 | kernel09 | test |
| 05:40.32 | ragedragon | eccentric, it is possible |
| 05:40.56 | ragedragon | ectospasm, it is possible need to check |
| 05:40.56 | apm1 | actually i am waiting for steve macintyer's efi bootable images to be merged into beta 3 as he has hoped for on his blog :p |
| 05:41.01 | ragedragon | thx for your help |
| 05:42.14 | apm1 | http://blog.einval.com/2012/08/24 |
| 05:42.28 | apm1 | read the last line he says it :) |
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| 05:48.27 | apm1 | what does this script do ? |
| 05:48.29 | apm1 | http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/debian-cd/branches/EFI_support/update-cd?view=markup |
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| 05:51.33 | ectospasm | apm1: just by glancing over it, it looks like it creates a list of Debian CDs... |
| 05:52.13 | apm1 | ectospasm, i really have no idea how to download steve's wheezy branch :( |
| 05:52.45 | ectospasm | apm1: that script doesn't mention wheezy at all |
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| 05:53.34 | ectospasm | apm1: you can *try* changing CODENAME=wheezy, to see if that gets you the wheezy CDs, but that's just a guess |
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| 05:54.03 | apm1 | ectospasm, can you tell me what this is is ? http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/debian-cd/branches/EFI_support/ |
| 05:54.47 | ectospasm | looks like a source tree root |
| 05:56.21 | apm1 | that tree according to steve's blog is his branch |
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| 05:57.02 | ectospasm | apm1: you know how to use svn? |
| 05:57.08 | ectospasm | That looks like a subversion repo |
| 05:57.28 | apm1 | no i never heard of svn |
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| 05:58.18 | format_c | apm1: have you ever heard of cvs? |
| 05:58.29 | apm1 | no |
| 05:58.43 | ectospasm | apm1: aptitude install subversion && cd /path/to/my/src/dir/ && svn co http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/debian-cd/branches/EFI_support/ |
| 05:58.45 | apm1 | i have heard of git though :p |
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| 05:59.07 | format_c | Muah well it'similar |
| 05:59.33 | ectospasm | subversion didn't work for Linus, and he got tired of BitKeeper, so he rolled his own |
| 06:01.13 | apm1 | ectospasm, guys i wish to boot my mac with a wheezy dvd that's all i want but i can't do that from the beta2 images from debian.org as they don't support efi yet :( |
| 06:01.27 | ectospasm | good luck |
| 06:01.46 | ectospasm | I hear getting Linux on modern Apple hardware is an effort in frustration |
| 06:02.36 | apm1 | ectospasm, actually steve has remasterd a netinstall image which boots on my mac but i don't have wired network so it's a pita :( |
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| 06:03.03 | ectospasm | apm1: you do not deny my statements (-; |
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| 06:03.54 | apm1 | ectospasm, no it's fairly easy to install and use bloated distros like *buntus , fedora and opensuse on a new mac :) |
| 06:04.10 | apm1 | they work otb on my macbookpro |
| 06:04.40 | apm1 | but since i am a debian purist i need steve's efi images badly :p |
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| 06:09.44 | apm1 | the first whezzy beta was released on august 8 2012 and beta2 on september 9 2012 |
| 06:10.09 | apm1 | then the beta3 should be almost ready judging by the stats :p |
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| 06:16.01 | apm1 | yes guys it's gonna come soon i can totally feel it in my gut :p |
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| 06:16.31 | apm1 | it's just not me a lot of people speculated this week will be beta 3 release |
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| 06:17.10 | apm1 | and it's only Wednesday so ..... let's hope :) |
| 06:17.44 | joules | hi, i need to find out what disk this error is referring to -> [ 1705.450523] ata6.00: failed command: WRITE FPDMA QUEUED, how do i know which device ata6.00 is referring too? (it would be helpful). |
| 06:18.25 | ectospasm | joules: https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Libata_error_messages |
| 06:18.31 | ectospasm | joules: cool nick, btw |
| 06:19.18 | apm1 | the unit of energy :p |
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| 06:19.56 | joules | i reg this nick only a few months ago. |
| 06:20.06 | joules | guess its mine now :} |
| 06:20.43 | joules | ectospasm: thanks, but how to i correlate all that to a actuall device in /dev that i can deal with? |
| 06:21.00 | ectospasm | joules: all SATA? Or PATA? |
| 06:21.03 | ectospasm | I'm assuming SATA |
| 06:21.05 | joules | sata |
| 06:21.19 | ectospasm | /dev/sda == ata1, /dev/sdb == ata2.... |
| 06:21.37 | joules | umm |
| 06:22.27 | joules | are you sure about that? |
| 06:23.42 | gnarface | well if squeeze or later and x86 arch theoretically... |
| 06:24.01 | gnarface | could still be hda/hdb in some cases |
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| 06:24.40 | joules | seems like a guessing game don't it? |
| 06:25.21 | joules | ata6: SError: { UnrecovData Handshk } <obviously this disk or interface is screwy. |
| 06:25.56 | apm1 | ,info boxes |
| 06:25.57 | judd | Package boxes (text, optional) in squeeze/i386: Textmode box- and comment drawing filter. Version: 1.0.1a-2.3; Size: 53.1k; Installed: 192k |
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| 06:26.41 | apm1 | does anyone know of boxes on wheezy ? |
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| 06:28.36 | ectospasm | apm1: same version on wheezy |
| 06:28.45 | apm1 | ok |
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| 06:29.08 | ectospasm | apm1: scratch that, this is sid |
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| 06:29.48 | ectospasm | apm1: but if squeeze and sid have the same version, I suppose one could infer that it's the same on wheezy |
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| 06:33.50 | joules | ectospasm: ata port numbers can not be considered in the same sequential count of assigned device numbers and/or letters..afaik. |
| 06:34.11 | ectospasm | joules: that's not how I read the link I posted earlier |
| 06:34.45 | ectospasm | ...whatever the first port is should be ata1, second should be ata2... |
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| 06:34.56 | joules | well port 6 != /dev/sdf |
| 06:35.05 | ectospasm | now, if you have multiple controllers it may be something different |
| 06:36.01 | ectospasm | joules: http://www.miriup.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=84:mapping-linux-kernel-ata-errors-to-a-device&catid=8:linux&Itemid=25 |
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| 06:39.18 | joules | you know thats exactly what i've been doing (fkn around in /sys). |
| 06:40.46 | joules | its /dev/sdd |
| 06:40.52 | joules | what a **** around. |
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| 06:50.23 | nmschulte | I have my root FS as an ext4 partition via d-crypt w/ LUKS, on an mdadm RAID 1 array. I want to resize it without taking the system down immediately. Can I somehow break the RAID array, open the broken half with d-crypt/LUKS, and then use some tool to resize it, and then finally later on recreate the array with the resized half as the good half and pretend nothing ever happened? |
| 06:51.30 | joules | nmschulte: no point encrypting root, just causes a PITA. (try rebooting a server that requires a passphrase on boot?) |
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| 06:53.18 | nmschulte | joules; the passphrase is a necessary evil. unfortunately. |
| 06:53.26 | niels1 | nmschulte, did your underlying disks just grow? can't you simply resize the array using mdadm? i assume you're using LUKS on top of the raid array, not the other way round |
| 06:53.46 | joules | nmschulte: http://www.gigahype.com/resize-luks-encryped-lvm-partition/ |
| 06:53.50 | nmschulte | niels1: I want to shrink the partition, :(. |
| 06:54.02 | joules | ugh |
| 06:54.13 | joules | is a terrible helper. |
| 06:54.21 | nmschulte | I think in theory it will work just fine. I may have to rsync any changes over, but as this is a personal machine, there are none I won't know or care about. |
| 06:55.00 | homes | nmschulte: hmmm, yes, i think you could |
| 06:55.35 | nmschulte | I almost want to do it just to say I did. |
| 06:56.03 | nmschulte | s/to say I did/so I can say I did/you can. |
| 06:56.06 | nmschulte | errm... |
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| 06:56.18 | homes | so it would go like this....place one side of mirror, sync, replace other side, sync |
| 06:56.22 | homes | grow array |
| 06:56.33 | simonlnu | sed: too many delimeters |
| 06:56.39 | homes | grow dmcrypt mapping, grow ext4 |
| 06:56.45 | simonlnu | bah.. delimiters* |
| 06:56.50 | nmschulte | simonlnu: s/to say I did/so I can say I did\/you can./ |
| 06:56.56 | nmschulte | :P |
| 06:57.01 | joules | nmschulte: need to shrink the ext4 fs first, then shrink luks, then resize the partition. |
| 06:57.05 | homes | careful if you have any actual partitions, they make online stuff hard |
| 06:57.14 | simonlnu | could have used , ;) |
| 06:57.40 | nmschulte | :) |
| 06:57.47 | nmschulte | Stupid Windows. |
| 06:57.59 | nmschulte | All this work just to play a damn video game. |
| 06:59.10 | niels1 | joules, nmschulte, you need to resize the md-array after shrinking luks and before shrinking the partition, too |
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| 07:00.02 | homes | oh...you want to shrink, i missed that bit |
| 07:00.05 | nmschulte | correct. shrink fs, shrink luks, shrink mdadm, shrink partition |
| 07:00.10 | homes | only reads 3/4 of each word |
| 07:00.20 | niels1 | nmschulte, you'll probably have to do it from a live medium, unless you go the degrade-the-array route and are using LVM |
| 07:00.25 | homes | no chance of doing that online. |
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| 07:01.10 | homes | makes note to read harder in future |
| 07:01.15 | nmschulte | thit's okey, thut meenz wei cann type up to 3/5 of iitch werd wromg and you wont notice. |
| 07:01.38 | homes | i quite enjoy growing things online, i think it's cool :) |
| 07:01.48 | niels1 | well, i do notice :P but i can read it anyway |
| 07:02.04 | nmschulte | niels1: I should clarify: I explicitly want to degrade the array and shrink the partition soley so I can keep the machine up for the time being. |
| 07:02.55 | homes | you won't be able to keep it up, since you can't shrink ext4 online |
| 07:02.57 | niels1 | nmschulte, you'll still need LVM to do that properly. unless you want to copy everything over |
| 07:03.14 | niels1 | ah, right, that's quite true, homes |
| 07:03.17 | nmschulte | niels1: yeah; I'll have to rebuild a new array from the shrunk drive. |
| 07:03.25 | nmschulte | but I will of course have to take the system down at that point. |
| 07:03.32 | nmschulte | Which is fine, as long as I can delay it from _now_. |
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| 07:04.30 | homes | there are filesystems that can shrink online, but none worth bothering with in my experience [hopefully btrfs becomes declared stable soon] |
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| 07:07.30 | jelly-home | the users enjoy lack of dowtime as well |
| 07:08.37 | jelly-home | shrinking is done less often than growing |
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| 07:11.55 | homes | i agree, is rarely needed |
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| 07:17.16 | sephii | Hello there, I'm getting random crashes on my new laptop (Thinkpad L530) and I don't have a clue on how to debug this since I can't find anything in the logs. Here are the symptoms: everything freezes, I can't use the keyboard nor the mouse anymore, Ctrl-Alt-PrtScr keys don't work. I also tried to ssh into it but it's down too... |
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| 07:18.20 | ectospasm | sephii: what version (squeeze, wheezy, sid...)? |
| 07:18.31 | ectospasm | s/t v/t Debian v/ |
| 07:18.36 | sephii | ectospasm: wheezy |
| 07:19.08 | ectospasm | which graphics driver are you using? You may need to use the proprietary/nonfree drivers for now. |
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| 07:19.40 | sephii | I also tried to reinstall the whole system, and I checked the integrity of the image first |
| 07:19.56 | sephii | ectospasm: it's an intel chipset so I'm using the intel driver |
| 07:20.24 | sephii | maybe I could try the vesa one, I don't need good graphics performance for coding... |
| 07:20.26 | ectospasm | check to make sure your chipset is supported by the driver you're using |
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| 07:21.45 | sephii | lspci just lists it as " 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller", that's not very helpful... but I can see the driver used is i915 |
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| 07:26.24 | Trewas | sephii: I also had random hard crashes with ivy bridge laptop, it's running ubuntu but the upgrade to their latest release (well tomorrow's release) seemed to help... kernel went from 3.2 to 3.5 and I guess X also got upgraded but no idea about versions |
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| 07:30.24 | sephii | ectospasm: do you know where i can find any info on the i915 driver? all I can find is an archlinux wiki page... |
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| 07:30.45 | ectospasm | sephii: what kernel version is that for? |
| 07:31.00 | sephii | Trewas: I'll try with a 3.5 kernel, thanks for the hint |
| 07:31.17 | sephii | ectospasm: I'm running 3.2.23 |
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| 07:33.38 | ectospasm | sephii: I meant what version is the arch page saying the i915 driver is compatible? |
| 07:36.13 | sephii | ectospasm: oh, it's not. There's just some general information about intel graphics drivers |
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| 07:40.54 | sephii | looks quite similar: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg1067007.html |
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| 07:43.16 | sephii | I'll just try with a 3.5 kernel and see if it gets better. thanks for your help ectospasm Trewas |
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| 09:20.01 | ectospasm | !de |
| 09:20.02 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
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| 09:21.19 | dizzylizzy | somebody please tell me not to use roott please |
| 09:21.30 | Armand | Don't use root |
| 09:21.33 | Armand | O_o |
| 09:21.45 | ag4ve | is there a way to have a script run line by line and print certain variables on each instruction? sorta like gdb? |
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| 09:21.52 | ChrisH | dizzylizzy: you should use root not roott as this is normally a non-existing user |
| 09:21.57 | ag4ve | err, bash script |
| 09:22.35 | ChrisH | ag4ve: bash -xv or set -xv inside will print debug output, but no single-step |
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| 09:23.39 | ChrisH | ag4ve: but if IIRC there is a way to single step sripts, but I forgot how-to do it. Maybe trap or some weird ENV setting was it |
| 09:24.00 | ectospasm | ag4ve: you can modify the script and put "echo $VAR" throughout... |
| 09:24.11 | ectospasm | ...which is the poor man's way to do it |
| 09:24.31 | ag4ve | thanks... googling single step. i think xv should do the other half |
| 09:24.55 | ag4ve | ectospasm: yeah, i wanted more of the debugger approach :) |
| 09:25.50 | ag4ve | and i couldn't think of anything else to google other than "bash script repl" knowing full well the bash command line is a repl and no one would post something like that :/ |
| 09:25.52 | ChrisH | ag4ve: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/Practices#Debugging looks promising |
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| 09:28.27 | ag4ve | so, yeah, basically -xv and a bunch of read's... |
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| 09:47.14 | fprophet | !remove gnome |
| 09:47.14 | dpkg | To remove or purge GNOME 2.x: aptitude remove ~nlibgnome ~nlibbonobo2 ~nliborbit2 ~nlibgnomeui ~nlibgnomevfs2. Use 'purge' instead of 'remove' if that's what you want (ask me about <purge>). |
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| 09:55.07 | jubo2 | Hiya. My iceweasel almost freezes and the 'top' is showing only 40% user level CPU usage with about 40% .. help would be appreciated |
| 09:55.15 | jubo2 | *idle |
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| 09:56.40 | ag4ve | how do i get the pid a sudo'd command ran with? |
| 09:57.01 | ag4ve | ie: sudo echo $$; echo $! |
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| 09:57.17 | ag4ve | i'd like the two to match |
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| 10:01.18 | ag4ve | oh and btw, i'm looking at all of the results about this on google... i'm sorta hoping there's a way to do this without ps ax or pgrep or whatever |
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| 10:02.01 | peterrooney | ag4ve: the folk in #bash may have a much better idea |
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| 10:02.16 | babilen | ag4ve: And I would also tell them what you are *really* trying to do. |
| 10:02.54 | peterrooney | ag4ve: babilen has hit the nail on the head. I'm damn curious what would lead to your question. |
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| 10:03.18 | babilen | (but lets take it to #bash -- this isn't really Debian specific AFAICT) |
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| 10:07.12 | Emmanuel18 | Bonjour |
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| 10:14.11 | Emmanuel18 | j'ai un soucis l'or d'un make pour la compilation d'un ircu... |
| 10:14.28 | Emmanuel18 | dbuf.c:60: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘CVS’ |
| 10:14.35 | themill | !fr |
| 10:14.36 | Emmanuel18 | je vous paste le message en entier |
| 10:14.36 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr. |
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| 10:15.48 | jargon- | is there a way to see the status of the various repos? i'm having 404 errors on the .uk.debian.org repos and i wanted to check if it's from my end or theirs |
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| 10:16.08 | themill | jargon-: 404 normally indicates you need to "apt-get update" |
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| 10:18.46 | jargon- | themill: it's apt-get update that's giving me these 404s,actually |
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| 10:19.12 | themill | jargon-: can you pastebin the output? There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the uk mirror |
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| 10:20.11 | jargon- | themill: here's the output http://dpaste.com/814656/ |
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| 10:21.25 | themill | jargon-: the files it complains about do exist on ftp.uk.debian.org. Do you have a proxy between you and the server? |
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| 10:22.32 | jargon- | themill: i've got squid proxying. let me check it |
| 10:22.57 | themill | There's also an error for security.d.o -- sounds very much like squid is misbehaving there |
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| 10:33.23 | ujjain | I cannot get 2 services to automatically start after boot |
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| 10:37.01 | ujjain | pastebin: http://pastebin.visilang.com/view/3358487d |
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| 10:40.23 | Iridos | dpkg, lsb tags |
| 10:40.24 | dpkg | From squeeze onwards, Debian uses a dependency-based boot sequence (see /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.Debian). This requires all init scripts having appropriate headers, so that the correct order of execution can be determined. Scripts like S25libdevmapper1.02 are left over from Sarge and can be deleted; your own scripts will need LSB headers added: http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts |
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| 10:47.45 | thewanderer1 | how on earth do I find records with ldapsearch? this returns my row: ldapsearch -x uid=thewanderer; the result contains my dn: uid=thewanderer,ou=Users,dc=gim11,dc=pl; so I do: ldapsearch -x uid=thewanderer,ou=Users,dc=gim11,dc=pl; and nothing is found! |
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| 10:56.51 | tim_flatus | I'm trying to get the touchpad working on a 12" powerbook g4 running wheezy (GeForce FX Go5200) - I have gpointer installed. I have tried creating an xorg.conf to no avail. http://paste.debian.net/201234 - Any bright ideas? Or am I (as I suspect) just wasting my time? |
| 10:56.55 | ag4ve | is there a cleaner way to run sudo with a pipe than echo "blah" | sudo sh? i'm doing echo ",,L,*" | sfdisk -D /dev, so it's going to look real bad if i've got to do things like that? |
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| 10:59.38 | niels2 | tim_flatus, i think lines 357 to 359 are the problem |
| 11:00.32 | ag4ve | ah, nevermind, i was being a dumb ass and didn't have use ticks with sh -c so it was failing |
| 11:01.19 | tim_flatus | niels2: yup. If I'm using gpointer, do I need to specify a different driver? |
| 11:01.46 | niels2 | tim_flatus, actually i have no idea. just thought i might point out where it fails |
| 11:02.03 | tim_flatus | niels2: understood. Thanks. |
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| 11:04.42 | tim_flatus | This shouldn't even need an xorg.conf to work. But I have no idea how to configure it - or have any clue where to look to find out. |
| 11:05.55 | niels2 | tim_flatus, maybe it's not a synaptics pad at all? if so, you might just try to configure the driver it is actually using |
| 11:06.33 | niels2 | tim_flatus, well, some special cases need an xorg.conf. i need one to configure extra features of my trackball for instance |
| 11:06.47 | ag4ve | ok, another stupid question - now do i get a variable in that command now? if i do: sudo sh -c 'echo $TEST' the var is of course blank, if i do `echo $TEST` it evaluates the stuff in test like a command. i realize "echo $TEST" works, but since i've got other quoted strings, it fails. |
| 11:07.06 | tim_flatus | No, it might be an appletouch, which is supposedly built in to the kernel. But I'm at a loss as to how to find this information. |
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| 11:08.35 | ag4ve | this is what i've got: sudo sh -c 'echo ",,L,*" | sfdisk -D $NBDDEV' |
| 11:09.02 | niels2 | ag4ve, you could use multiple levels of quoting, but actually i'd suggest to use the pipe approach. especially if you intent to use it over ssh as well (you will find that ssh has an even stranger way to handle command line arguments) |
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| 11:09.50 | drigolli2r | hi all |
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| 11:10.25 | mah454 | How can use pdt2ldif command ? |
| 11:10.42 | mah454 | i use this but not work : pst2ldif file.pst |
| 11:10.47 | ag4ve | so, echo -e "echo \",,L,*\" | sfdisk -D $NBDDEV" | sudo sh ? |
| 11:10.50 | mah454 | show help of command ! |
| 11:11.17 | drigolli2r | mah454: too "man pdt2ldif" |
| 11:11.21 | ag4ve | err, probably need to escape the *, but that look about right? |
| 11:11.38 | niels2 | tim_flatus, maybe "man evdev" can give some hints, i think it's using evdev |
| 11:11.41 | mah454 | drigolli2r: I read this but can not understand ! |
| 11:11.59 | tim_flatus | niels2: ta, I'll have a look. |
| 11:12.26 | ujjain | http://pastebin.visilang.com/view/558f05af - How come this nohup does not print anything? |
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| 11:12.33 | ujjain | I just want to know why the services don't start. |
| 11:12.57 | niels2 | ag4ve, yes, looks about right. i haven't thought about what it does, tho ;) |
| 11:13.09 | ag4ve | heh, well it tested right and i don't have to escape * in bash land ... or echo land. go figure |
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| 11:13.49 | ag4ve | yeah, as long as i don't have to start doing eval crap with this, i guess it'll work |
| 11:14.46 | niels2 | ag4ve, * doesn't get expanded when it's between quotes, which it is |
| 11:15.39 | ag4ve | yeah, but echo -e ... enable interpolation of expressions |
| 11:15.57 | ag4ve | i figure * is interpolated |
| 11:16.43 | niels2 | no |
| 11:16.46 | ag4ve | ah, maybe not... i'm thinking regex and not basic shell interpolation |
| 11:17.10 | niels2 | -e is for special escape sequences, like \n and \e |
| 11:17.50 | ag4ve | oh, so i didn't need it... |
| 11:17.58 | niels2 | exactly |
| 11:18.13 | ag4ve | thanks |
| 11:18.25 | drigolli2r | I should always lock my computer |
| 11:18.56 | drigolli2r | WiNd@w3s rock |
| 11:19.24 | Lasse- | Just no. |
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| 11:20.52 | drigolli2r | http://www.tsgk.net/cowboyz/tdc.html |
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| 11:30.39 | kichawa | hi folks |
| 11:30.50 | kichawa | when tar will be updated in debian? |
| 11:30.59 | kichawa | do you know that kind of information? |
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| 11:31.45 | Sevet | ,v tar |
| 11:31.46 | judd | Package: tar on i386 -- lenny: 1.20-1+lenny1; squeeze: 1.23-3; sid: 1.26-4; wheezy: 1.26-4 |
| 11:31.59 | Sevet | wheezy will have a newer version than squeeze |
| 11:32.31 | ace | Hi folks, I call upon you for your expertise i have ATI FireMV 2400 PCI Express graphics card capable of driving 4 monitors at once |
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| 11:33.51 | ace | ATI only have drivers for the model below this - the 2200 |
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| 11:34.29 | kichawa | Sevet: yes, i know but i need to know when 1.26 will be in squeeze |
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| 11:35.13 | Sevet | it won't |
| 11:35.19 | ace | i am looking help to get this card working |
| 11:35.46 | Sevet | kichawa: is there a specific reason you need a newer version? |
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| 11:36.08 | ace | or Is there a way, generic ATI driver that I could install to, at least have a dual or triple head video output working ? |
| 11:36.39 | Sevet | kichawa: if you really need it you could create a backport of the wheezy version (squeeze-backports on backports.debian.org) |
| 11:37.15 | kichawa | Sevet: yes, i need it, tar now is not suitable for backup |
| 11:37.15 | kichawa | not suitable |
| 11:37.22 | kichawa | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=658975 |
| 11:37.55 | niels2 | tim_flatus, however, you may want to get rid of all sections in your xorg.conf that you don't actually need and then check again what Xorg.0.log reports. you can configure a single input device with just a single xorg.conf section. you don't necessarily need that serverlayout stuff |
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| 11:38.54 | niels2 | tim_flatus, InputClass instead of InputDevice may be your friend in that case |
| 11:39.04 | ksuhku | ace, there is the radeon driver, dunno if your card is supported |
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| 11:40.55 | mrtnt | Am I correct that one of the best ways to mitigate UDP DDoS is to ask my ISP to configure firewall which drops all the UDP traffic to IP's allocated to me expect certain ports like 53(DNS), 123(NTP) and rate-limit traffic to those certain UDP ports? |
| 11:41.07 | ace | ksuhku how can i check |
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| 11:43.10 | apm1 | hmm , how do i connect a lan using only a switch and 2 laptops running debian ? |
| 11:43.11 | apm1 | *unmanaged switch |
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| 11:44.16 | ksuhku | ace, you could try decoding the manual page (man radeon) |
| 11:44.34 | ksuhku | ace, you probably are using it already |
| 11:45.28 | ksuhku | ace, does this output anything? lsmod |grep radeon |
| 11:45.57 | ace | only 1 head/output works |
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| 11:46.46 | ace | ksuhku let me check that |
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| 11:47.29 | cobra-the-joker | Hey guys ... does debian 6 stable uses uxa instead of exa ? |
| 11:47.38 | niels2 | apm1, you mean with nothing else on the lan? just the 2 laptops? you could use avahi/zeroconf or set one of the laptops up with a static address and have it serve DHCP leases, or just configure both of them with static addresses |
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| 11:48.14 | tim_flatus | niels2: OK, but I still need to figure out how to refer to the driver. 'evdev' seems to not cause errors, but I need to specify a device now. |
| 11:48.57 | apm1 | niels2, go easy on the jargon |
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| 11:49.35 | niels2 | tim_flatus, well, what i do for my trackballs is looking at Xorg.0.log how it calls them and then use that exact name verbatim as identifier in the InputClass section |
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| 11:50.18 | ksuhku | ace, how do you know it supports 4? |
| 11:50.23 | niels2 | apm1, i see, so maybe just giving both your laptops a static ip address might be the easiest approach for you |
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| 11:50.29 | ace | ksuhku http://pastebin.com/YWynw0hH |
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| 11:50.55 | apm1 | niels2, what part of mobile broadband do you not understand ? |
| 11:51.01 | ksuhku | ace, that means you're using the radeon driver now |
| 11:51.11 | Ghormoon | hi guys, don't you know why ssh tries to use version 1 when using -X11 (even with -2 specified)? |
| 11:51.37 | niels2 | apm1, mobile broadband? you were talking about a lan |
| 11:51.37 | ksuhku | ace, try making a xorg.conf and specify a virtual resolution that is large enough for all your displays |
| 11:51.43 | Ghormoon | without -X11 it's ok, with -X11 it won't connect (major versions differ) |
| 11:51.53 | joltcan | Ghormoon: isn't it just -X for x11? |
| 11:51.58 | ksuhku | ace,i have to go now, someone else will help you |
| 11:52.14 | ace | ksuhku thank you |
| 11:52.14 | apm1 | niels2, never mind |
| 11:52.36 | joltcan | Ghormoon: if you set -X11 that is two commands after each other, so it interprets it as -X and -1 |
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| 11:53.00 | Ghormoon | seems so, i'm lame :D but anyway, it's hell slow (doesn't matter if X11 or not), any ideas why? :) (it tkazes at least 30secs to prompt for password) |
| 11:53.19 | thewanderer1 | Ghormoon, ssh -Xv target; read the output! |
| 11:53.20 | joltcan | Ghormoon: slow usually means no reverse hostname |
| 11:53.30 | thewanderer1 | or GSSAPI failures and slow retries |
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| 11:54.16 | joltcan | Ghormoon: type "who", if you see IP address in the last coloumn, then it's reverse thats failing |
| 11:54.24 | Ghormoon | anyway, this won't work, seems I should log directly, double ssh x11 pass fails xD |
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| 11:56.51 | Ghormoon | btw reverse lookup needs to be turned off on the server? |
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| 11:57.31 | Ghormoon | anyway, at my user I have e-79-248.eduroam.fit.cvut.cz |
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| 11:58.39 | thewanderer1 | Ghormoon, the -v option will tell you what SSH is doing, use it |
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| 11:59.50 | Ghormoon | "unspecified GSS failure" (3 times, 10sec each) |
| 11:59.58 | tintin | How can i set a program to run after each restart? |
| 12:03.27 | Ghormoon | even with KbdInteractiveAuthentication=yes it tries for GSS :-/ |
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| 12:06.05 | FilipeMaia | Is there a way to find how much data is there on a tape? |
| 12:06.13 | Trewas | eduroam btw works surprisingly well, I am not sure what kind of extortion or intimidation they (and who is that "they") have used to get every university aboard |
| 12:07.15 | Ghormoon | anyway, is any simple way how to send the x11 one level up? (i mean, I'm on a virtual through ssh x11 and when i connect to server through ssh -x, it connects, but opening windows fails because localhost:101.0 is not running) |
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| 12:08.19 | Eagleman | How do i install php4? |
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| 12:09.10 | tim_flatus | niels2: That's pretty much everything apart from the Device section - the rest of it was an attempt to get 3d accel going. |
| 12:09.24 | Sm0ke0ut | why do you want to have PHP4? it's waayy beyond deprecated |
| 12:10.00 | Eagleman | Becuase i need it... |
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| 12:10.31 | Sm0ke0ut | I'm afraid you've to download the sourcecode from php.net and compile it yourself |
| 12:12.20 | themill | Eagleman: I wouldn't recommend putting php4 anywhere near your server |
| 12:12.45 | Eagleman | Upgrading our mediawiki is also not recommended |
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| 12:13.00 | tintin | Can i ask now? |
| 12:13.01 | Eagleman | becuase we have custom written plugins that are not working now |
| 12:13.03 | tintin | update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing |
| 12:13.05 | tintin | insserv: warning: script 'K01starttransmission.sh' missing LSB tags and overrides |
| 12:13.07 | tintin | insserv: warning: script 'starttransmission.sh' missing LSB tags and overrides |
| 12:13.14 | tintin | update-rc.d starttransmission defaults |
| 12:13.30 | tintin | it's not starting transmission after reboot |
| 12:13.34 | ksk | iDrac: you like dell? :D |
| 12:13.43 | tintin | #/bin/bash |
| 12:13.45 | tintin | /usr/bin/transmission & |
| 12:13.53 | ksk | tintin: use nopaste, gosh |
| 12:13.59 | niels2 | tim_flatus, well, i usually go without serverlayout section. the nice thing about using InputClass is that you can have it match many devices at once (or none at all) and have it apply your settings to it, without having to care about the CoreEvents stuff. i let Xorg figure that out by itself |
| 12:14.01 | ksk | !tell tintin about paste |
| 12:14.02 | iDrac | ksk: quite, yes |
| 12:14.20 | ksk | chrchr |
| 12:14.21 | themill | dpkg: tell tintin about missing lsb tasg |
| 12:14.24 | themill | dpkg: tell tintin about missing lsb tags |
| 12:14.24 | iDrac | but I was drac before I knew about dell remote controllers |
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| 12:14.42 | themill | Eagleman: fixing your plugins sounds like a better solution then. |
| 12:16.27 | excalibr | people, what do you use to clone ext4 part to image? |
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| 12:20.19 | josy1982_ | hello i need help |
| 12:20.27 | nukke | good morning everyone. i don't know how i screwed up. i somehow removed my only "normal" user from the sudoers list. i'm trying to add it back but it won't let me edit the list because i don't have permission. |
| 12:20.36 | nukke | any ideas? |
| 12:20.38 | tintin | How can i start transmission after login or reboot automatically? https://gist.github.com/3905247 |
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| 12:20.57 | tintin | I tried putting the script in /etc/init.d/starttransmission.sh |
| 12:21.07 | tintin | and update-rc.d starttransmission.sh defaults |
| 12:21.10 | tintin | fails |
| 12:22.25 | tim_flatus | niels2: hmm, well I tried MatchIsTouchpad, but that doesn't seem to have done much. evdev seems to be recognising several mouses. Ug. Think I'll go for a walk. ;-) |
| 12:22.35 | excalibr | tintin: doesnt it already start automatically? |
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| 12:23.06 | tim_flatus | My brain is trying to crawl out of my body now. |
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| 12:23.23 | tintin | excalibr: No, it doesn't start |
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| 12:23.50 | niels2 | tim_flatus, try starting with as few matches as possible ;) |
| 12:24.06 | themill | tintin: is this debian's transmission package? |
| 12:24.25 | niels2 | tim_flatus, evdev might not see it as touchpad |
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| 12:24.47 | tim_flatus | niels2: I don't really know what i'm trying to match |
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| 12:25.09 | tintin | themill: Yes, it's debian transmission |
| 12:25.16 | josy1982 | he beats me |
| 12:25.18 | tintin | https://gist.github.com/3905247 |
| 12:25.26 | tim_flatus | InputClass is all new to me. |
| 12:25.31 | tintin | what is missing LSB tags and overrides ? |
| 12:26.22 | niels2 | tim_flatus, try without serverlayout, to have Xorg.0.log report every input device it recognizes complete with the name it uses. and then just use Identifier, no Match directive at all. that's what i do |
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| 12:26.23 | tintin | themill: Are you taking meaL? |
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| 12:26.31 | themill | tintin: the output of "dpkg -L transmission-daemon" might be interesting. |
| 12:26.33 | tintin | abrotman: Hi, are you there? |
| 12:26.46 | tim_flatus | niels2: I am, I've removed all but the Device section |
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| 12:27.41 | tim_flatus | niels2: I see what you're getting at. |
| 12:28.14 | tintin | themill: https://gist.github.com/3905247 |
| 12:28.18 | tim_flatus | The problem may be that Xorg isn't actually seeing any touchpad |
| 12:28.51 | tintin | How can i know if it's running at background? |
| 12:28.54 | niels2 | tim_flatus, hmm, okay, that's bad |
| 12:29.20 | tintin | Can anyone give me a script to run transmission after boot at defaults? |
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| 12:29.41 | themill | tintin: so umm.. what debian packages for transmission do you have installed? |
| 12:29.46 | tintin | Can anyone answer me? |
| 12:29.46 | tim_flatus | What is a PMU? |
| 12:30.19 | tintin | https://gist.github.com/3905247 |
| 12:30.21 | tintin | themill: |
| 12:30.24 | tintin | ^ |
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| 12:30.39 | themill | perhaps you want transmission-daemon? Given what you're trying to do... |
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| 12:32.10 | niels2 | tim_flatus, is the appletouch kernel module loaded? |
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| 12:32.33 | tim_flatus | niels2: I'm assuming so as it's supposed to be built in. |
| 12:32.54 | tim_flatus | According to everything I've read |
| 12:33.11 | tim_flatus | No, I haven't actually check the kernel config |
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| 12:33.37 | niels2 | tim_flatus, well, please check. and if it is, you will probably have one of your /dev/input/event* devices provide the interface to it. one can match that to Xorg.0.log then |
| 12:34.02 | niels2 | tim_flatus, well, i guess appletouch is a module. autodetection might or might not work, i don't know |
| 12:34.33 | greasegum | hey friends, does anyone know if it's possible to upgrade just ONE package and its dependencies (including shared) to Wheezy if I'm running stable? |
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| 12:35.13 | abrotman | tinhi ? |
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| 12:35.17 | niels2 | tim_flatus, lsmod | grep appletouch |
| 12:35.19 | abrotman | he left |
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| 12:37.46 | ChrisH | greasegum: I did a apt-get install package to upgrade selected ones |
| 12:39.17 | tim_flatus | niels2: no appletouch module and udev doesn't see any touchpad |
| 12:39.18 | themill | greasegum: depending on the package you're talking about, that's an exceedingly bad idea. |
| 12:39.29 | themill | greasegum: what are you looking for here? |
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| 12:39.52 | tim_flatus | Several virtual mouses and keyboards plus PMU and powerbook buttons |
| 12:40.03 | tim_flatus | I think that's the basic problem eh? |
| 12:40.08 | greasegum | themill:: I thought that was a possibility. backstory: I am having a really annoying time with the current stable version of xscreensaver |
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| 12:40.37 | greasegum | I wrote a bug report to the author but all I got was a curt response that I need to upgrade to the latest version |
| 12:40.48 | greasegum | well I have the latest stable version, ya know? |
| 12:41.00 | greasegum | the newest version is in the pipeline |
| 12:41.08 | themill | yeah, some upstream authors don't care about their software as soon as they release the tarball |
| 12:41.46 | niels2 | tim_flatus, do you mean you don't have the kernel module at all? or is it just missing from lsmod output? |
| 12:42.03 | tim_flatus | niels2: it's missing from lsmod |
| 12:42.13 | tim_flatus | This is a 3.2 kernel |
| 12:42.22 | tim_flatus | So surely it's built in? |
| 12:42.29 | themill | greasegum: wheezy is well on the way to being release, perhaps upgrading to wheezy is feasible for you at this stage |
| 12:42.30 | niels2 | tim_flatus, can you try to modprobe it? and look at the last lines of dmesg output? |
| 12:43.20 | tim_flatus | niels2: yes. Done! |
| 12:43.24 | niels2 | tim_flatus, i'm not sure what you mean by "built in". it's a loadable kernel module. it's not compiled right into the kernel, but can be loaded when needed. many things are |
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| 12:43.44 | greasegum | themill:: Ok that's good to know. are you a dev or something? |
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| 12:44.13 | themill | greasegum: one of about a thousand debian developers, yes. |
| 12:44.15 | niels2 | tim_flatus, do the last lines of dmesg indicate that it recognized your touchpad or something? |
| 12:44.29 | tim_flatus | niels2: fair enough. It's such a long time since I did any of this - I've been running on Intel hardware, which all autoconfigures |
| 12:44.36 | greasegum | hey, to me it's a secret cabal. |
| 12:44.47 | greasegum | ;) |
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| 12:47.38 | greasegum | themill:: so sounds like going upstream is pretty much all or nothing. |
| 12:47.54 | tim_flatus | niels2: Doesn't look like it: http://paste.debian.net/201265 |
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| 12:49.59 | niels2 | tim_flatus, what's this mouseemu stuff? may that be the touchpad? |
| 12:50.51 | tim_flatus | niels2: I was wondering that |
| 12:51.31 | niels2 | tim_flatus, you can install evtest, run that on all /dev/input/event* in sequence, do stuff on your touchpad and see if it produces according output |
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| 12:52.09 | greasegum | "Moltar, I have a huge brain that is able to reduce any complex operation to a simple yes or no answer." |
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| 12:54.28 | m3asmi | Checking IMAP service.... Â Â Â Â ERROR:Â Error connecting to IMAP server "localhost:993".Server error: (111) Connection refused |
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| 12:56.22 | jelly | greasegum: "will your answer to this question be no?" |
| 12:56.28 | themill | m3asmi: you perhaps need to (a) decide whether this is on debian or ubuntu (b) not cross-post (c) provide enough information that anyone has any idea what you're talking about (d) actually ask a question. |
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| 12:56.30 | niels2 | tim_flatus, ah, i guess mouseemu is just some kind of daemon that emulates right and middle mouse presses |
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| 12:57.38 | tim_flatus | niels2: yup, that's what I thought initially |
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| 12:58.05 | tim_flatus | none of the /dev/input/event* respond to the touchpad |
| 12:58.20 | tim_flatus | I not there are only 6 event devices |
| 12:58.23 | tim_flatus | note |
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| 13:00.27 | niels2 | they are allocated dynamically when they are detected. if you remove any of your usb input devices, the corresponding event* will go away, too |
| 13:00.48 | tim_flatus | niels2: acha |
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| 13:01.29 | greasegum | jelly:: tangentially related SpaceGhost quote. 30. Yes. |
| 13:01.30 | henux | hi is there a UNIX command which simply returns your uuid? i know i can grep it from /etc/passwd but i just need the uuid simply. |
| 13:01.31 | tim_flatus | niels2: I think the answer here is just use the USB mouse and have done with it. |
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| 13:02.11 | niels2 | tim_flatus, yeah, probably, but it's a pity that the touchpad isn't detected. maybe someone more knowledgable about that hardware can provide more insight and help than me |
| 13:02.55 | tim_flatus | niels2: Thanks anyway. I've learned a hell of a lot. :-) |
| 13:03.05 | niels2 | you're welcome |
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| 13:06.08 | ironm | Hello. Please allow me one question: is it possible to use multiply url entries on the command line like: xchat --url=irc://irc.freenode.net:6667/#mariadb ... ? |
| 13:06.26 | ironm | to open more than one channel |
| 13:06.54 | ironm | the next one maybe on different server |
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| 13:13.45 | dsirenko | Hello. I am working on packaging an application to deb-packages |
| 13:14.05 | dsirenko | My question is: can I protect user from aftermaths of Ctrl-C ? |
| 13:14.28 | ChrisH | dsirenko: inside bash scripts you can trap it |
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| 13:14.46 | dsirenko | is there any "safe" way to write scripts so an incidental interruption won't leave package manager broken? |
| 13:15.38 | dsirenko | ChrisH: Yes, I know it, trapping is a last resort |
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| 13:17.48 | jelly | dsirenko: you need to write the installation scripts so they can be stopped/broken at any point, and that a restart of the installation continues without breaking things |
| 13:18.14 | jelly | dsirenko: this is called idempotency and is mandated in debian policy |
| 13:18.17 | JimmyGulp | hey folks, just on the off chance, does anyone happen to know which module I'd need to load to get an xserve RAID card working in linux? :) |
| 13:18.33 | JimmyGulp | google is being very coy about the answer |
| 13:18.55 | jelly | dsirenko: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-maintainerscripts.html#s-idempotency |
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| 13:19.08 | ChrisH | JimmyGulp: XServe from Apple? |
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| 13:19.28 | JimmyGulp | nods, attempting to replace the ancient version of OSX, with something that works properly ;) |
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| 13:22.16 | babilen | JimmyGulp: What does "lspci -nn" say about the card? |
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| 13:33.14 | PigDude | how do I get package source for package? |
| 13:33.22 | PigDude | E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list |
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| 13:35.41 | themill | dpkg: tell PigDude about deb-src |
| 13:36.11 | PigDude | thanks |
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| 13:43.27 | xcbghz | hi guys, anyone knows how to solve this problem in debian [-] Exception handling request: undefined method `%' for nil:NilClass |
| 13:44.19 | niervol | #flood hi |
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| 13:50.56 | PigDude | xcbghz, I'm pretty sure that's a Ruby error |
| 13:51.33 | PigDude | xcbghz, irb >> nil % 1 # NoMethodError: undefined method `%' for nil:NilClass |
| 13:52.19 | jelly | niervol: hi, people in here don't really visit or read #flood; use a pastebin site like http://paste.debian.net to put your problematic output ther |
| 13:53.05 | jelly | niervol: then provide the link here, together with a short description of the issue |
| 13:53.07 | jelly | !ask |
| 13:53.07 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 13:54.07 | xcbghz | PigDude: /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.2/irb/magic-file.rb:7:in `initialize': No such file or directory - % (Errno::ENOENT) |
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| 13:54.44 | simonlnu | (i thought it supported modulo?) |
| 13:55.04 | simonlnu | (that's like basic maths) |
| 13:55.07 | jelly | simonlnu: what's nil % 3 ? |
| 13:55.09 | niervol | jelly: ok, I'll do that when I need help. thanks. |
| 13:55.26 | simonlnu | still gonna get a nil, ;) |
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| 13:55.42 | niervol | !ask |
| 13:55.43 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 13:55.47 | jelly | apparently not, you're gonna get a NoMethodError |
| 13:56.02 | simonlnu | that's what doesn't make sense |
| 13:56.14 | jelly | it does to me |
| 13:56.42 | jelly | a null object is a null object... it's not an integer or a string or anything else |
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| 14:06.08 | FilipeMaia | How can I make sure NIS is enabled? When I reboot it seems my server does not bind to the NIS domain |
| 14:06.23 | simonlnu | NIS? |
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| 14:07.08 | simonlnu | hands FilipeMaia some visudo love |
| 14:07.09 | PigDude | xcbghz, can you provide details of what you are doing, etc, rather than error messages alone? |
| 14:07.19 | simonlnu | and some vipw |
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| 14:07.28 | FilipeMaia | simonlnu: visudo? |
| 14:07.43 | simonlnu | typo, sorry |
| 14:07.59 | simonlnu | had a bad night's sleep.. |
| 14:08.05 | FilipeMaia | simonlnu: vipw? |
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| 14:08.23 | FilipeMaia | simonlnu: is the question what is NIS? |
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| 14:08.46 | simonlnu | no, i know what it is. it's more polite than a *shudder* |
| 14:08.57 | FilipeMaia | simonlnu: something wrong with NIS? |
| 14:09.12 | simonlnu | i stay away from it if at all possible |
| 14:09.21 | ChrisH | simonlnu: NIS client should bind to the NIS Server automagiacally... At least it does for me all the time |
| 14:09.31 | simonlnu | of course |
| 14:09.38 | FilipeMaia | how do share autofs mount maps for example? |
| 14:09.48 | FilipeMaia | i'm not using NIS for authentication |
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| 14:10.24 | simonlnu | didn't do much digging there .. isn't it ypmount? |
| 14:10.26 | ChrisH | NIS is fine as long as you know it not safe :) In an env where everyone knows the root pw its OK, even for authentication. |
| 14:10.40 | jhutchins_wk | FilipeMaia: What are you using NIS for if not for auth? |
| 14:10.50 | FilipeMaia | jhutchins_wk: autofs mount maps |
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| 14:11.05 | ChrisH | FilipeMaia: NIS client should bind to the NIS Server automagiacally... At least it does for me all the time. what does ypwhich show? |
| 14:11.12 | jhutchins_wk | FilipeMaia: Does it do that? |
| 14:11.21 | FilipeMaia | ChrisH: i had to restart nis manually to get it to bind |
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| 14:11.36 | FilipeMaia | ChrisH: i tried to look at the order of the boot scripts but it looks fine |
| 14:11.48 | jhutchins_wk | FilipeMaia: Do you have a static network connection or are you using network manager? |
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| 14:12.02 | FilipeMaia | jhutchins_wk: i have a feeling it's using the network manager |
| 14:12.09 | simonlnu | omg |
| 14:12.13 | FilipeMaia | jhutchins_wk: (i didn't setup this machine) |
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| 14:12.20 | jhutchins_wk | FilipeMaia: You should know for certain, and that would explain the problem. |
| 14:12.31 | FilipeMaia | jhutchins_wk: ok |
| 14:12.32 | ChrisH | Network Manager and NIS is not a good idea... choose one of them |
| 14:12.37 | simonlnu | i suggest you do set it up ;) |
| 14:12.37 | FilipeMaia | jhutchins_wk: how to know for sure? |
| 14:12.46 | FilipeMaia | I have no idea how network manager works |
| 14:13.04 | ChrisH | On all my NIS enables systems I uninstalled and purged Network manager |
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| 14:13.14 | simonlnu | dpkg -l 'network*' |
| 14:13.15 | dpkg | No packages found matching 'network*' |
| 14:13.28 | simonlnu | dpkg: of course not |
| 14:13.29 | dpkg | simonlnu: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 14:13.38 | FilipeMaia | ChrisH: is there a way to just disable it? |
| 14:13.41 | simonlnu | dpkg: duh |
| 14:13.41 | dpkg | hmm... duh is hi |
| 14:13.58 | FilipeMaia | ChrisH: /etc/network/interfaces is quite empty |
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| 14:14.25 | jhutchins_wk | FilipeMaia: So that's your problem, nm instead of a static configuration, fix it. |
| 14:14.49 | FilipeMaia | jhutchins_wk: what's the proper way to disable network manager? |
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| 14:14.59 | jhutchins_wk | FilipeMaia: If you configure the interface in the interfaces file, nm should ignore it, but there's no reason to keep nm around on a server. |
| 14:15.04 | simonlnu | purge it |
| 14:15.13 | jhutchins_wk | FilipeMaia: aptitude purge network-manager |
| 14:15.14 | FilipeMaia | ok |
| 14:15.20 | FilipeMaia | that just sounds harsh :) |
| 14:15.29 | jhutchins_wk | FilipeMaia: I would suggest that you want to get the static config working first. |
| 14:15.41 | simonlnu | easiest, and like jhutchins_wk said, it doesn't belong on a server |
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| 14:16.23 | jhutchins_wk | FilipeMaia: NM is only useful if you have a portable system that logs in to different networks depending on where it is. It allows a desktop user to manage the network connection, which the old style configuration reseves to root and the system. |
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| 14:16.47 | FilipeMaia | ok |
| 14:16.53 | jhutchins_wk | FilipeMaia: Ordinarily a NM manged connection doesn't come up until the user logs in (that's configurable). |
| 14:17.07 | FilipeMaia | I see |
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| 14:17.18 | FilipeMaia | Ok i'll try to reboot now |
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| 14:20.17 | _basic6_ | i've set up a root cronjob that runs every minute: service ntp status || service ntp start |
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| 14:20.23 | _basic6_ | but ntp isn't started |
| 14:20.38 | _basic6_ | it works when i enter that command as root manually |
| 14:20.40 | FilipeMaia | _basic6_: i bet of path problems |
| 14:20.44 | FilipeMaia | on |
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| 14:21.02 | _basic6_ | oh that's an idea |
| 14:21.29 | FilipeMaia | _basic6_: you probably got some email from crond complaining about something |
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| 14:24.36 | jhutchins_wk | _basic6_: You might want to use the init script instead of "service". |
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| 14:25.14 | sneex | invoke-rc.d ? |
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| 14:25.41 | _basic6_ | jhutchins_wk: /usr/sbin/service works perfectly |
| 14:25.47 | _basic6_ | thanks for the tip |
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| 14:29.22 | Beast1 | j/ |
| 14:29.37 | Beast1 | j/ #xmodmap |
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| 14:33.05 | tictacbum | hello |
| 14:33.38 | tictacbum | doing apt-get update I get a lot of Bai:39 http://http.debian.net wheezy/main Translation-*/DiffIndex lines |
| 14:34.09 | tictacbum | I read this can be avoid deleting /var/lib/apt/lists/* |
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| 14:34.29 | tictacbum | it is safe to do? what is the purpose of those lang files? |
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| 14:35.27 | somiaj | my guess is so you can get info on packages in other languages. |
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| 14:36.01 | themill | tictacbum: alternatively, configure apt to only grab the languages you want; /msg dpkg apt translation |
| 14:37.02 | tictacbum | themill: thanks, pointed me in the right direction |
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| 14:43.13 | somiaj | gihad: what does the output of apt-cache policy redis-server tell you? (you can paste the output at paste.debian.net) |
| 14:43.15 | themill | gihad: - not _ and using aptitude will often work out better as it will also upgrade other packages as needed |
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| 14:43.43 | gihad | Thanks, I see the mistake |
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| 14:51.03 | cetra | hello, what should i add to sources.lst to install madwifi with m-a? |
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| 14:51.48 | jordanm | cetra: madwifi has been deprecated for a long time |
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| 14:52.04 | jordanm | cetra: the atheros kernel drivers a in the mainline kernel these days |
| 14:52.19 | cetra | ik |
| 14:53.22 | mtn | is ik short for icky? |
| 14:53.32 | cetra | i know. |
| 14:54.06 | cetra | jordanm: i'm trying to find an alternate driver and madwifi is listed in m-a |
| 14:54.21 | cetra | alternative* |
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| 14:55.38 | ChrisH | TheWarden: fix your scripts not so write to STDOUT and/or STDERR or redirect it to dev/null like: some command >/dev/null 2>&1 |
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| 15:00.33 | tictacbum | TheWarden: or shorten one: &> /dev/null |
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| 15:00.51 | TheWarden | Thanks guys! |
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| 15:27.03 | frafa | boa tarde |
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| 15:27.37 | marsje | is it normal that shrinking an ext3 partition with gparted takes hours? |
| 15:27.40 | ng__ | frafa, boa tarde ;D |
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| 15:29.03 | frafa | é verdade que o IRC tá morrendo no Brasil? |
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| 15:29.31 | confusid | trying to use a usb broad band stick and I get these errors. Any ideas how to go about having this work? http://pastebin.com/KpyrFta1 it is a MC760 Novatel |
| 15:29.50 | boudiccas | sometrhing weird is going onj, in my sd card for my phone wheezy sees 10 files in the music folder, whereas the androind phone sees 3 totally different files, which wheezy doesnt see! anyone any iodea whats goign on and how to correct it please? |
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| 15:30.26 | marsje | boudiccas: did you look for hidden files (starting with a .)? |
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| 15:30.49 | boudiccas | marsje, there are NO hidden files there |
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| 15:31.18 | marsje | boudiccas: could be be there is more than 1 partition on that card? |
| 15:31.42 | boudiccas | marsje, no, just the one |
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| 15:32.05 | marsje | boudiccas: that's weird then :-O |
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| 15:36.12 | Shutdown | where i ask for a hostname cloak, please? |
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| 15:37.04 | themill | Shutdown: #freenode, although they often would ask that you have registered your account more than 6 minutes ago. |
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| 15:39.14 | Shutdown | thanks |
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| 16:00.38 | confusid | is there a package to install so I can use pcmiautils? |
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| 16:01.09 | as001 | hello I am trying to install debian squeeze server with hard disk western digital wd10earx but I am stucked. Installation can not recognise hard disk and want that I choose driver from list. What should I do ? |
| 16:01.10 | boudiccas | confusid, probably, synaptic can tell you |
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| 16:01.50 | confusid | ty installing it so i can check |
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| 16:02.31 | themill | ,i pcmciautils |
| 16:02.31 | judd | Package pcmciautils (admin, extra) in squeeze/i386: PCMCIA utilities for Linux 2.6. Version: 015-1; Size: 29.0k; Installed: 160k; Homepage: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/pcmcia/pcmcia.html |
| 16:02.32 | boudiccas | confusid, as would apt-cache searh foo |
| 16:02.33 | themill | (note spelling) |
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| 16:03.52 | confusid | sayss not found for url |
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| 16:04.48 | themill | that happens. doesn't stop you from using apt though |
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| 16:08.13 | Shutdown | can i edit my /etc/apt/sources.list with an IP? |
| 16:09.15 | themill | Shutdown: you can use an IP instead of a hostname, yes, but just looking up the IP of one of Debian's mirrors and inserting it there won't necessarily work. |
| 16:11.26 | Shutdown | even if i keep the original syntax? |
| 16:11.53 | themill | what are you really trying to do? |
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| 16:12.51 | Shutdown | kkk, it's just a doubt |
| 16:13.00 | peterrooney | Shutdown: I wouldn't recommend that unless you own the IP in question. |
| 16:13.24 | Shutdown | Ex. deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian stable main |
| 16:13.28 | themill | and know that the machine isn't an apache vhost etc. |
| 16:13.36 | themill | dpkg: tell Shutdown about make squeeze sources.list |
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| 16:13.54 | Shutdown | deb http://X.X.X.X/debian stable main |
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| 16:14.19 | ispireme | is away (im off. visit my IT-blog at www.ispire.me) |
| 16:14.22 | themill | Shutdown: (a) please don't use ftp.debian.org, use a different mirror that is closer to you; (b) please don't use "stable" in your sources.list, use "squeeze" instead as that will be less problematic for you in the future/ |
| 16:14.28 | themill | ispireme: please disable that in #debian |
| 16:14.52 | ispireme | disable what? |
| 16:15.09 | themill | ispireme: your away message. We don't need to know. |
| 16:15.27 | Shutdown | i thought putting "stable" i would be more compatible... |
| 16:15.29 | ispireme | oh, i see |
| 16:15.40 | Armand | checks themill's credentials.. |
| 16:15.47 | themill | dpkg: tell Shutdown about stable sources.list |
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| 16:17.11 | themill | Shutdown: when squeeze is no longer stable, you will very easily end up with a bit mess if you're using "stable" in your sources.list. If you use "squeeze", you'll be able to decide when to do the upgrade to the new stable release and you can read over the release notes and do it when you've got time. |
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| 16:18.22 | as001 | I figured out my motherboard does not recognise them |
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| 16:19.34 | confusid | I'm missing something. My goal is to have a usb device connect to a cell tower. mc760 novatel. I'm not seeing how to have the device show as a /dev/* as in eth0 or wlan0 or any other name it may take. Could someone point me to a howto? |
| 16:19.48 | Shutdown | themill: i understood yout explanation and i will change my sources.list as quick as i can |
| 16:20.07 | themill | Shutdown: you can just use the three lines dpkg gave you earlier. |
| 16:20.46 | jhutchins_wk | Does anybody schedule fscks? If so, how? |
| 16:20.56 | Shutdown | themill: but i have a doubt about the 3rd line you gave me |
| 16:21.25 | Shutdown | what's the purpose of that line? |
| 16:21.42 | themill | dpkg: tell Shutdown about squeeze-updates |
| 16:22.03 | somiaj | jhutchins_wk: if it isn't your root file system you can just unmount it and then fsck it, (hopefully puase/stop all services using that mountpoint). I belive you can run fsck on a mounted read only partition (you can mount root readonly) but I think it is prefered that you do them from a live disk |
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| 16:22.17 | simonlnu | confusid: well, first off, linux doesn't do /dev/ethX devices, they're virtual |
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| 16:23.59 | xeon123 | I'm trying to configure the wired network, but debian says that it cannot find wired network, which is not true. Debian can only find wireless networks. How do I setup wired network? |
| 16:24.07 | Shutdown | themill: you got the point: what's the difference of squeeze-updates and squeeze/updates? |
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| 16:24.32 | somiaj | jhutchins_wk: yea it apperas that if you do want to fsck on a readonly file system (such as /) you need to use some special flags with fsck and also that some of the warings/errors you get may be due to the file system being mounted. |
| 16:24.47 | themill | Shutdown: the former is new virus definitions and sometimes bug fixes, the latter is security updates. Yes, the naming is silly. |
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| 16:25.19 | somiaj | xeon123: are you using 'network-manager' if so by default network manager ignores any interfaces mentioned in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:25.46 | somiaj | xeon123: my guess is your wired interface got put in there during the install and now network-manager is ignoring it (note network-manager is not the only way to configure a network in debian, so be clear what you are using to configure your network) |
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| 16:26.49 | xeon123 | somiaj: I'm using network manager. So I must comment the eth0 auto from the /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 16:27.15 | somiaj | you must comment out all the lines refering to eth0 |
| 16:27.26 | somiaj | the auto eth0 is a must (you don't want it auto brought up at boot by debian tools) |
| 16:27.33 | Shutdown | themill: which of them was known as "volatile"? Because, i want only the "paranoic" stable packages |
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| 16:27.39 | somiaj | and you must also comment out the definition, 'iface eth0 inet dhcp' for isntance |
| 16:28.08 | themill | Shutdown: what dpkg said. (And you'll get the packages from squeeze-updates anyway after a couple of months; there's no reason to avoid that repository) |
| 16:28.16 | jhutchins_wk | somiaj: You can just shutdown -Fr now and it'll scan on restart while the root filesystem is still ro. |
| 16:28.36 | jhutchins_wk | somiaj: I'm just thinking I might need to check a disk, and wondering if that might be a scheduled maintenance. |
| 16:29.10 | jhutchins_wk | I know most admins just ignore it and then are reminded after 942 days of uptime when a reboot suddenly takes half an hour insted of the anticipated five minutes. |
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| 16:36.21 | xeon123 | Commenting the eth0 lines in /etc/network/interfaces worked. But why network-manager ignores what is defined in the interfaces file? |
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| 16:37.05 | Brigo | xeon123: you can use /etc/network/interfaces configurations or network-manager, not both |
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| 16:38.47 | riex | Hello, can someone tell me, what i can do, if i add a new user in my phpmyadmin, with host as %, if i do that - then the user cannot login, but if i add the new user with localhost, he can login, but not when i use %, what is the problem? :-p |
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| 16:41.04 | simonlnu | riex: "An account name consisting only of a user name is equivalent to 'user_name'@'%'. For example, 'me' is equivalent to 'me'@'%'." from http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/account-names.html |
| 16:41.30 | ispireme | is away (im off. visit my IT-blog at www.ispire.me) |
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| 16:41.48 | simonlnu | ispireme: turn that off please |
| 16:42.12 | simonlnu | riex: don't /msg people without asking first, thank you |
| 16:42.13 | riex | simonlnu: I know that. |
| 16:42.17 | riex | lol |
| 16:42.19 | riex | whiner |
| 16:42.27 | simonlnu | *plonk* |
| 16:42.29 | Armand | waits for the kick |
| 16:42.30 | riex | Please read what i writed dude |
| 16:42.36 | riex | you sent me a link, for nothing lol. |
| 16:42.40 | riex | what should i use that for? |
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| 16:42.43 | riex | that's not the problem dude |
| 16:42.44 | simonlnu | "wrote" |
| 16:42.49 | riex | okaaa gangsta |
| 16:42.57 | riex | you don't know a shit |
| 16:42.58 | riex | :< |
| 16:43.03 | riex | please leav simonlnu |
| 16:43.04 | riex | n000b |
| 16:43.20 | riex | simonlnu |
| 16:43.21 | Armand | riex, don't be an ass |
| 16:43.22 | riex | NOOOB |
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| 16:44.04 | riex | Armand: hes a ass |
| 16:44.05 | riex | I am not ;) |
| 16:44.10 | riex | I don't like whiners |
| 16:44.12 | Armand | You are.. completely |
| 16:44.17 | simonlnu | !ops riex acting like a fool |
| 16:44.18 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: simonlnu complains about: riex acting like a fool |
| 16:44.18 | riex | You are an idiot |
| 16:44.21 | dwatkins | So, don't use %... |
| 16:44.36 | riex | dwatkins: shut up plz |
| 16:44.36 | Armand | Sorry, riex, you are being a total jerk |
| 16:44.48 | riex | nobody here knows a shit about debian |
| 16:44.51 | riex | fucking noobs |
| 16:44.54 | dwatkins | riex: I was trying to bring this discussion back to your question instead of childish jibes |
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| 16:45.08 | riex | HEHEHE |
| 16:45.09 | riex | funny |
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| 16:45.15 | dwatkins | bye then |
| 16:45.16 | Armand | Best idea... |
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| 17:08.11 | EyesIsMine | I'm trying to partiton my disk (/dev/sda1) and use the existing logical partition wiseeyes/root on /dev/sda5 as root, but the installer wants to try and format /dev/sdc (which happens to be my arch linux install) |
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| 17:08.43 | Shutdown | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:09.09 | boudiccas | EyesIsMine, take out the power cable for the drive where arch is, and then it wont be seen by the installer |
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| 17:09.51 | EyesIsMine | boudiccas, I don't want to have to mess with the case, the main reason i'm re-running the installer is to rescue my debian install |
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| 17:10.18 | thepirateguy | All open source and free software developers are thieves because they don't have a source of money, all pirate, warez, nulled and cracked software downloaders and users are thieves because it is against the rules to download software and shit pirately, and all software sellers are in a good position to kiss my ass, because there are pirate downloaders! |
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| 17:12.30 | NiLon | I see, I'm like robin hood then? I stole from myself and give it to poor |
| 17:12.34 | wilee-nilee | someones off their meds |
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| 17:15.33 | Shutdown | themill: is this the universal IRC debian channel? |
| 17:15.49 | themill | this is one of several |
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| 17:16.00 | themill | (but probably the most active user support channel) |
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| 17:16.17 | EyesIsMine | how do I get the installer to not attempt to partition /sdc? |
| 17:16.25 | p8m | Why did the "official" official channel change to oftc? |
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| 17:16.50 | Shutdown | i liked this channel |
| 17:16.56 | Shutdown | quick answers |
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| 17:18.20 | EyesIsMine | anyone? |
| 17:18.41 | born2troll | guys is there a way to install a full debian 6 on an other partition from a currently running one? |
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| 17:19.23 | themill | dpkg: tell p8m about oftc move |
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| 17:19.36 | EyesIsMine | okay screw this |
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| 17:19.54 | themill | EyesIsMine: the partitioner only partitions exactly what you ask it to |
| 17:19.55 | EyesIsMine | from the installer, how do I do a manual grub-install |
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| 17:20.11 | EyesIsMine | themill, it's partitioning the things I don't want it to partition |
| 17:20.22 | EyesIsMine | it's trying to setup LVM on sdc |
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| 17:20.34 | p8m | born2troll: Check out D.3 in the debian install guide |
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| 17:20.44 | themill | EyesIsMine: did you use guided partitioning or manual? |
| 17:20.50 | EyesIsMine | i'm trying to use manual |
| 17:21.03 | born2troll | p8m, what debian install guide... i guess there are like a million of that... |
| 17:21.18 | EyesIsMine | stopped it from attempting to kill /dev/sdc |
| 17:21.39 | EyesIsMine | but now it wants to format LVM VG wiseeyes, which is my old logical partitipn |
| 17:21.48 | p8m | born2troll: search for "debian install guide" and click the first damn link |
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| 17:25.46 | phet | hi, can I only install CD1 ? |
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| 17:26.29 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell born2troll about i-g |
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| 17:29.21 | Shinobi | what do you use to correct mp3s that show the wrong time (and thus end prematurely)? |
| 17:29.40 | boudiccas | phet, no, you can use DVD1, or the netinstall iso, its all your choice |
| 17:29.48 | Bogus8 | I run a 3ware raid 1 card... (hardware raid)... I had always assumed with raid 1 that the card wasn't really a big deal as it didn't do the the parity striping and that it just kind of dumbly wrote to both drives and if one got out of wack just removed it. Now I'm looking more into it and it seems that my partitions aren't "normal" partitions. |
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| 17:30.03 | Bogus8 | Would I not be able to take a drive off a failed card and just stick it in the system and use it? |
| 17:30.05 | phet | boudiccas: so CD1 is not enough? |
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| 17:30.42 | boudiccas | phet, its yiur choice, the DVD1 is bigger than CD! and has more software on |
| 17:30.47 | p8m | phet. yes cd1 is enough for a working system. You can also use a netinstall cd if your machine has network access. |
| 17:30.48 | somiaj | jhutchins_wk: yea since in most reasonable cases you have to schedule a shutdown to do a fsck, I think most don't consider it regular matiance and only something that is needed if the system gets shut off unexpected. |
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| 17:31.09 | holoca | Debian sucks. use Biebian instead: http://biebian.sourceforge.net/ |
| 17:31.15 | phet | p8m: I have network access, but I am having proxy problems. the dhcp works, but then I cannot download anything |
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| 17:31.59 | somiaj | jhutchins_wk: though in the modern world were lots of servers are actually vm's, you could easily mirror the vm and then shutdown fsck the original while the mirror is up or something to that effect. |
| 17:32.11 | somiaj | jhutchins_wk: tough that doesn't help fsck the host. |
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| 17:33.24 | p8m | phet: You can use just cd1 or the dvd to install a working system in that case. |
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| 17:34.19 | p8m | Bogus8: You probably won't be able to just take a drive off the card and use it. RAID controllers often use custom on disk layouts. |
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| 17:35.15 | Bogus8 | p8m: Hmm... that kind of blows. So I basically need a backup card to truly be "fail proof". |
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| 17:35.56 | jpeppinus | !list |
| 17:35.57 | dpkg | jpeppinus: Debian è un sistema operativo composto di software libero non quella gratis. Vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per sapere di più. |
| 17:36.01 | jhutchins_wk | suspectes that biebian is debian with a justin bieber skin. |
| 17:36.06 | boudiccas | someone recently showed a shutdown command to run a fsck on reboot. was it 'shutdown -Fr' please? |
| 17:36.39 | themill | boudiccas: "man shutdown" seems to agree... |
| 17:36.58 | p8m | Bogus8: If you do get a backup card make sure it's the exact same card and firmware. Do you really need hw RAID? It's less reliable that linux softraid |
| 17:37.02 | boudiccas | themill, i was relying on memory, but thanks |
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| 17:37.57 | Bogus8 | p8m: on some of these... kind of. I can't have the box go down and so I have hardware raid 1 on the boot drive. |
| 17:38.06 | Bogus8 | brb |
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| 17:39.25 | jhutchins_wk | boudiccas: What that does is essentially "touch /forcefsck && shutdown -r now". |
| 17:39.38 | nsadmin | hi, looking to have the option to scale my cpu down, both the rate and (I have 3 cores) number of cores... my /proc/cpuinfo (first core only): http://pastie.org/5074330 |
| 17:39.58 | Darxus | I just wrote up how unpleasant it was to try to switch back to Debian after running Ubuntu for years: http://darxus.livejournal.com/321496.html |
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| 17:40.21 | boudiccas | jhutchins_wk, ah, right, thanks |
| 17:40.45 | nsadmin | I'm trying to compile something on my laptop, and the cpu gets too hot and the whole laptop powers down (w/o shutting down) |
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| 17:41.43 | nsadmin | so I want to start by having debian use one core only, and dividing cpu rate by 4 |
| 17:41.51 | p8m | Darxus: you should get an lcd monitor |
| 17:41.54 | holoca | nsadmin piss on your laptop and it'll cool down |
| 17:42.19 | nsadmin | holoca, sounds like fun... wait, WHAT??! |
| 17:42.57 | themill | nsadmin: don't parallelise the make if you don't want more than one core in use |
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| 17:43.45 | nsadmin | ok, I never did parallelize, and the thing is using waf and python |
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| 17:44.32 | nsadmin | I guess it could be parallelizing by default |
| 17:44.34 | jhutchins_wk | nsadmin: might be time to strip the laptop down and clean the cooling path. |
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| 17:45.22 | nsadmin | ugh... and I will look into that with a fair degree of trepidation having never done that |
| 17:45.37 | nsadmin | never disassembled the laptop |
| 17:46.21 | themill | waf. you poor thing. |
| 17:46.33 | Darxus | p8m: I have an LCD monitor at work. My CRT is still great. I'll buy an LCD when it dies (or substantially larger LCDs become cheaper). Not an acceptable solution to Debian failing to properly detect my monitor (EDID) and set its refresh rate. |
| 17:47.01 | specing | I clean my laptop every 2-3 months |
| 17:47.02 | nsadmin | themill, seems it doesn't know how to compare timestamps like make does, or something's going on which happens to defeat that |
| 17:47.10 | specing | put it into suspend-to-ram |
| 17:47.14 | specing | unscrew the case |
| 17:47.19 | specing | unscrew the fan |
| 17:47.34 | specing | use a vacuum cleaner on the heatsink |
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| 17:47.41 | specing | screw everything back on |
| 17:47.47 | specing | open the lid. |
| 17:47.50 | specing | done |
| 17:48.03 | p8m | Darxus: You should ask for your money back! |
| 17:48.14 | nsadmin | I may have to drive down to jameco and buy some tools... |
| 17:48.36 | Darxus | p8m: I've done a little packaging. I'm a programmer. I'm willing to work on this. The current situation is just disappointing. |
| 17:49.02 | dioz | [343334.436282] gnome-control-c[13016]: segfault at 35 ip 00007f885bd6e8c5 sp 00007fff6312fe78 error 4 in libc-2.13.so[7f885bc51000+17d000] |
| 17:49.09 | dioz | what is that and how do i fix it? |
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| 17:53.29 | holoca | thanks to the spammer |
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| 17:53.46 | Bogus8 | p8m: you know what is funny... I had problems with a software raid 5 and people said "that's why you should have gone hardware... software is just not as good" LOL... seems like no matter which one I pick I messed up. |
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| 17:56.04 | Losowski | t/clear |
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| 18:10.24 | phet | I just installed testing. Everything looks fine. First reboot it is not working. Its stack in "waiting for /dev to be fully populated" |
| 18:12.14 | nsadmin | phet, how long did you let it try? |
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| 18:12.29 | phet | nsadmin: so far 5 minutes |
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| 18:12.57 | nsadmin | any disk activity while it was doing that? |
| 18:13.11 | nsadmin | during, say, that 5 mins |
| 18:13.31 | phet | nsadmin: right now there seems to be disk activity, it flashes like every second once |
| 18:13.43 | phet | I am reading acpi=off may save it |
| 18:14.15 | nsadmin | ok, so my guess is it's trying to do stuff, it's in process... 5 mins is definitely a long time |
| 18:14.53 | phet | nsadmin: how long should I wait? |
| 18:15.00 | nsadmin | is the machine with testing a different box? |
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| 18:15.31 | phet | Im not in the debian machine, this is another laptop |
| 18:15.50 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 18:16.23 | phet | it seems a common problem in google :s |
| 18:16.37 | nsadmin | you could try acpi=off to see if that works, do you know how to put it into the grub boot for the next boot? |
| 18:17.10 | phet | no |
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| 18:17.35 | nsadmin | when you boot, do you see a menu of choices of what to boot? |
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| 18:17.54 | phet | yes |
| 18:18.04 | phet | but why am I having this problem? |
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| 18:18.20 | nsadmin | that part I don't know. one thing at a time |
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| 18:19.06 | kord | hi |
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| 18:19.21 | nsadmin | so, as soon as you see the menu, it's going to automatically boot something in like 5 secs... to stop that timer, hit down-arrow |
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| 18:19.58 | nsadmin | then, you stay on the menu until you select something to boot... let me know when you're there |
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| 18:20.55 | phet | nsadmin: I pressed 3, im in the options |
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| 18:21.57 | nsadmin | ok, what you want to do is edit the top boot choice... so, get out of options back to the menu screen |
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| 18:22.18 | phet | ok I am in the menu screen |
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| 18:22.52 | nsadmin | when the kernel is booted, the kernel actually has a command line... what we're going to do, is add the acpi=off to the command line |
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| 18:23.22 | phet | ok I pressed c and I am in the command line |
| 18:23.26 | nsadmin | bottom center of the screen shows what you can do from here... |
| 18:23.27 | phet | how can I add acpi=off |
| 18:24.02 | nsadmin | that's not the right place either... the good thing is you're seeing some of the structure of grub |
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| 18:24.34 | nsadmin | get back to the menu screen, make sure the top item is selected, see if you can "edit" |
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| 18:25.00 | phet | nsadmin: e to edit? |
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| 18:25.27 | nsadmin | it says that? try it if so |
| 18:26.01 | phet | yeah |
| 18:26.06 | nsadmin | you will probably see several lines... the one you want to edit is the line that selects the kernel |
| 18:26.07 | phet | Im in |
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| 18:26.46 | phet | initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-3-amd64 |
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| 18:27.19 | nsadmin | not that one, that points at the image containing modules to load before / is mounted |
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| 18:27.34 | nsadmin | (which gets loaded in the ramdisk) |
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| 18:27.55 | phet | linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-3.... |
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| 18:28.04 | nsadmin | ahh you found it :) |
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| 18:29.08 | nsadmin | you can add it with a soace first at the end of the line |
| 18:29.20 | phet | soace? |
| 18:29.21 | born2troll | whats the easyest way to install a debian on a usb stick? |
| 18:29.25 | phet | soace? |
| 18:29.28 | phet | hmm |
| 18:29.35 | born2troll | i tried just to install it but it breaks at 33%... |
| 18:30.11 | wilee-nilee | born2troll, Load the iso for install or an actual install? |
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| 18:31.05 | born2troll | wilee-nilee, thats what i do... i mounted the stick ad harddisk in my virtualbox and install it like a real pc |
| 18:31.44 | wilee-nilee | born2troll, hehe does that translate to a ISO load for install? |
| 18:31.56 | nsadmin | born2troll, do you want to boot the installer from the usb? OR install debian ONTO the usb? |
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| 18:32.26 | phet | nsadmin: I have added acpi=off at the end. how I do save it? |
| 18:32.38 | born2troll | nsadmin, i want to USE debian from the stick therefore i dont want same iso for try&install |
| 18:32.41 | born2troll | so i just install |
| 18:33.11 | wilee-nilee | born2troll, Try unetbootin |
| 18:33.12 | nsadmin | phet, you can't save from here, this is just for the next boot |
| 18:33.34 | born2troll | wilee-nilee, it seems it works smooth now... welll i google it out anyway |
| 18:33.46 | phet | nsadmin: ok I pressed f10 |
| 18:33.59 | nsadmin | ok, which does what? |
| 18:34.08 | phet | nsadmin: its working |
| 18:34.12 | nsadmin | ok :) |
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| 18:34.23 | wilee-nilee | born2troll, Cool, here is unetbootin for future reference. http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ |
| 18:35.06 | born2troll | i mounted the stick on the virtual machine as harddisk |
| 18:35.32 | born2troll | now i install a debian (from iso) in there... lets see if that works |
| 18:35.43 | Shutdown | i have a doubt about firewall |
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| 18:36.03 | born2troll | firewall => iptables |
| 18:36.19 | nsadmin | phet, is it booting? |
| 18:36.50 | born2troll | ill tell u if it works... while i go in offtopic to have a good time |
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| 18:37.48 | born2troll | i got an error! "Warining: Failture trying to run: chroot /target /sbinldconfig" |
| 18:37.50 | phet | nsadmin: yes, I was in :) Im shutting it down now, time to go home |
| 18:37.54 | born2troll | can u explain what it means? |
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| 18:40.03 | born2troll | okey guys tell me what am i doing wrong??? |
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| 18:40.15 | Shutdown | i ran netstat -ltupan and one of entries was local address: 192.168.1.3:56236 Foreign address: 195.148.124.79:6667. If i use a firewall that drops everything that come out of LAN, would i connect? |
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| 18:43.10 | born2troll | wilee-nilee, are you there? talk with me! |
| 18:43.52 | born2troll | unet will actually install the iso to the stick or make the stick start the iso? |
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| 18:44.17 | frikinz | Shutdown: it means your machine is connected to irc. so yeah a tightly configured firewall would prevent you from such nasty things ;) |
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| 18:45.36 | frikinz | Shutdown: one normally block incoming connection creation (aka SYN) coming from outside yes |
| 18:46.06 | nsadmin | phet, ok, to make it permanent, you'll need to take some additional steps while in your debian |
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| 18:47.10 | gele | i've installed a program from source instead of from debian packages. how do i tell apt that its dependencies are satisfied so it doesn't try to install the debian packages if i want to install packages that need the thing i installed from source? |
| 18:48.17 | nsadmin | look into the equivs package |
| 18:48.27 | frikinz | or would hold do the trick? |
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| 18:51.57 | frikinz | no that wouldn't work.. |
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| 18:52.52 | dondelelcaro | gele: you're better off actually installing the Debian package, but equivs can be made to work. |
| 18:53.06 | Shutdown | frikinz: lol, my doubt is: if i accept output traffic represent a security risk at all? |
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| 18:53.54 | nsadmin | Shutdown, output is what leaves your machine |
| 18:54.10 | frikinz | Shutdown: depends.. what is the context? Your home machine (behind a router which might have alrady a fw), a remote, a server,.. |
| 18:54.11 | nsadmin | should try to clean this machine... bbiaw |
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| 18:56.02 | tryy3|Coding | is there a command to rename a folder? |
| 18:56.16 | frikinz | mv |
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| 18:57.38 | frikinz | rename for more complex stuffs |
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| 19:00.12 | buu | Hey, I'm getting some odd apt-get errors can anyone take a look at http://pastebin.com/mu7XNCCe and tell me how to debug this further? |
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| 19:00.13 | gele | dondelelcaro: the debian packaged version doesn't work with my hardware. |
| 19:00.32 | gele | equivs seem to have taken care of the dependencies nicely. |
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| 19:03.19 | Brigo | buu: that is the error: dpkg-deb (subprocess): data: internal gzip read error: '<fd:0>: data error' |
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| 19:03.28 | somiaj | gele: you can also create your own debian packages from source if you would rather use dpkg to install/remove it as opposed to equivs. |
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| 19:04.15 | buu | Brigo: Thanks... now what do I do about it? |
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| 19:04.44 | buu | ok wtf |
| 19:04.48 | buu | This machine is just not happy. |
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| 19:05.53 | Shutdown | i forgot the people i was talking about iptables |
| 19:06.13 | frikinz | Shutdown: depends.. what is the context? Your home machine (behind a router which might have alrady a fw), a remote, a server,.. |
| 19:06.28 | Shutdown | thanks for the remember |
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| 19:07.04 | Shutdown | the context is a single machine, with a valid IP, |
| 19:07.18 | Shutdown | and i intend to run an iptables |
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| 19:08.10 | frikinz | Shutdown: there's no invalid IP. maybe you mean a global IP that is not behind a NAT router? |
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| 19:08.56 | Brigo | buu: it looks like the disk fd:0 floppy? |
| 19:09.16 | buu | Brigo: I'm fairly confident the machine doesnt have a floppy drive.. |
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| 19:09.40 | frikinz | Shutdown: security is a tradeoff and depends on what you have and who's going to work on attacking you.. again it depends on the machine, if it runs a server |
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| 19:10.11 | Brigo | buu: i dont know whatis fd:0 then :-m |
| 19:10.43 | frikinz | buu: maybe the package is corrupted on the server or you have a BIG problem on you ram/harddisk. |
| 19:10.51 | frikinz | buu: aptitude reinstall git ? |
| 19:11.12 | frikinz | not sure that will not take the archive on your disk actually |
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| 19:11.27 | buu | frikinz: Yeah.. I'm blaming the hardware, I just had the machine provisioned so I'll see if I can get them to replace |
| 19:12.31 | frikinz | doesn't grub include a ram test ? or run the ram test from the bios? |
| 19:12.40 | Shutdown | frikinz: i'm still learning about iptables policies and rules |
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| 19:15.48 | frikinz | Shutdown: vast subject |
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| 19:16.33 | Shutdown | frikinz: i know |
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| 19:17.04 | frikinz | Shutdown: http://inai.de/images/nf-packet-flow.png |
| 19:17.22 | Shutdown | frikinz: and in my opinion, it's not dificult to learn |
| 19:17.38 | Shutdown | frikinz: sorry, i'm running form terminal |
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| 19:18.37 | khaleel5000 | hi, on wheezy, how do I get info on how much ram and swap is in use |
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| 19:19.15 | frikinz | Shutdown: but you should keep this link, I think its summarizes quite well the flow of netfilter (kernel part on which iptables rely) |
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| 19:20.04 | Shutdown | frikinz: kkk, i forgot that i can view images with fbi |
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| 19:20.38 | Shutdown | khaleel5000: use the command free -m (show your RAM an swap in megabytes) |
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| 19:23.30 | frikinz | buu: it could still be a problem on the server. apt-get clean and then apt-get install git |
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| 19:23.47 | frikinz | buu: unless you already have other problems of this kind |
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| 19:23.54 | khaleel5000 | Shutdown: thanks |
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| 19:24.31 | derric | Hello, I just build a real-time kernel and was wondering if option for group scheduling control would be usefull to enable for that kernel. It seems to work OK without, although I would like to optimise things as much as possible. |
| 19:25.25 | gele | derric: can you run your programs with realtime priorities? |
| 19:25.53 | derric | gele: Yes, it seems so. |
| 19:26.00 | gele | derric: i wouldn't bother then. |
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| 19:26.50 | derric | gele: And cyclictest from the rt-tests suite seems to report good latency figures. |
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| 19:28.15 | KsM | can someone tell me why debootstrap / mknod isn't working here: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/4a9bd27c/ |
| 19:28.42 | derric | gele: Furthermore my multitrack recording app seems to do it's job quite merrily now without any dropouts or other glitches. |
| 19:29.31 | format_c | KsM: the error message says what the problem is. |
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| 19:29.35 | gele | derric: in that case, don't touch anything. =) |
| 19:29.49 | frikinz | KsM: you should not use fat but rather something which allows unix permissions. |
| 19:30.03 | Shutdown | with the advent of IPv6, will NAT,DNS and DHCP become useless? |
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| 19:30.06 | derric | gele: I was wondering because the rt-docs seems to setup group limits in /etc/security/limits.conf, and I was wondering if those are just getting ignored by the lack of cgroups support in the kernel. |
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| 19:30.25 | KsM | format_c: it isn't mounted with noexec or nodev |
| 19:30.25 | gele | Shutdown: 1) no 2) why did you lump DNS in there? |
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| 19:30.37 | Shutdown | khaleel5000: have you had success? |
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| 19:30.59 | KsM | frikinz: oh |
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| 19:31.28 | KsM | Well it's a sd card and I still need it as fat32 though... |
| 19:31.48 | format_c | gele: what NAT with v6? |
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| 19:31.58 | gele | derric: are you sure you're not confusing cgroups with normal user groups? |
| 19:32.26 | Shutdown | gele: i've heard that in the future, DNS and DHCP would become an integrated single service |
| 19:32.51 | Shutdown | gele: exclusively for IPv6 |
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| 19:34.26 | frikinz | KsM: afaik, it is not possible even to simulte unix perms on vfat |
| 19:34.28 | derric | gele: My confusion is what promted all the questions. |
| 19:35.22 | derric | gele: I'm reading up on cgroups now. |
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| 19:37.39 | format_c | Shutdown: w/o DNS the Internet won't work even not with IPv6. SLAAC can provide basic service similar to DHCP. In huge deployments, DHCPv6 keeps integral. |
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| 19:38.26 | dontknow | this channel may be my last hope. anyone here can build pgo x64 firefox with icc? |
| 19:39.07 | format_c | dontknow: x64 sounds like Windoze |
| 19:39.25 | dontknow | format_c, in linux |
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| 19:39.55 | dontknow | no one? |
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| 19:41.42 | Shutdown | format_c: thanks |
| 19:42.19 | dontknow | does anyone here build optimized firefox? |
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| 19:43.20 | dontknow | does anyone here use firefox? or know about what firefox is? |
| 19:43.40 | wilee-nilee | lol, tell us what this firefox thingy is. |
| 19:43.43 | format_c | What pgo is isvthevquestion. |
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| 19:44.14 | frikinz | or if the target is debian |
| 19:44.19 | dontknow | wilee-nilee, i want to build intel optimized firefox |
| 19:44.42 | format_c | dontknow: just tell what the issue is. Use nopaste. |
| 19:44.49 | wilee-nilee | dontknow, Might you talk in #firefox |
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| 19:44.57 | derwaffenss | xterm error says get_pty: not enough ptys |
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| 19:45.35 | khaleel5000 | Shutdown: yes. |
| 19:45.37 | dontknow | format_c, the issue is, i don't know how to? what flags should i use for mozconfig, how to pgo optimized etcc.. |
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| 19:45.48 | derwaffenss | xtermd do not open in X |
| 19:45.55 | derwaffenss | xterms* |
| 19:46.00 | dontknow | wilee-nilee, they don't know neither |
| 19:46.02 | khaleel5000 | anotehr issue: when I say hdparm -b /dev/sdxx it says " HDIO_GET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device |
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| 19:46.37 | hellyeah | hey |
| 19:46.39 | hellyeah | whats up |
| 19:46.46 | format_c | dontknow: did Ou question the same way? |
| 19:46.52 | dontknow | i want to build firefox using sse4 avx whatever instruction sets etc.. |
| 19:46.58 | format_c | hellyeah: top |
| 19:46.58 | frikinz | khaleel5000: so does my disk |
| 19:46.59 | wilee-nilee | dontknow, Seems like dream, are you sure you're awake. ;) |
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| 19:47.18 | hellyeah | squeeze wheezy jessie |
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| 19:47.19 | wilee-nilee | just ribbing you |
| 19:47.20 | hellyeah | ? |
| 19:47.21 | dontknow | wilee-nilee, what? |
| 19:47.27 | khaleel5000 | frikinz: what does this mean? |
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| 19:47.34 | khaleel5000 | did you check? |
| 19:47.52 | frikinz | yes, probably the driver does not implement this |
| 19:47.52 | dontknow | man anyone here build optimized firefox here? |
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| 19:48.11 | dontknow | it is amazing! #debian |
| 19:48.15 | dontknow | debian! |
| 19:48.31 | pclov3r | lo |
| 19:48.31 | dontknow | shame on you |
| 19:48.37 | pclov3r | what can i do with 16GB of ram in debian |
| 19:48.43 | Shutdown | does anyone use other distro than debian or related? |
| 19:48.44 | format_c | They might use chrome instead |
| 19:48.46 | Chousuke | -Omg-optimize? |
| 19:49.05 | hellyeah | ubuntu is debian based |
| 19:49.06 | format_c | Shutdown: not in #debian |
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| 19:49.18 | wilee-nilee | Shutdown, many |
| 19:49.25 | dontknow | using ubuntu |
| 19:49.28 | dontknow | so what? |
| 19:49.42 | Shutdown | justo curious |
| 19:49.47 | Chousuke | pclov3r: video editing? |
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| 19:50.03 | dontknow | i thought you debian user would answer my question, i thought you had knowledge |
| 19:50.12 | Chousuke | pclov3r: or run your entire OS from RAM :P |
| 19:50.19 | hellyeah | about what dontknow |
| 19:50.26 | dontknow | i asked other channels and no answer |
| 19:50.37 | pclov3r | lol i could |
| 19:50.47 | dontknow | hellyeah, i want to build intel optimized firefox |
| 19:50.49 | Shutdown | dontknow: what's yout doubt? |
| 19:50.52 | shak3zula | i have 16gb of ram on this debian box im using |
| 19:51.00 | shak3zula | what can't it do is the question |
| 19:51.09 | hellyeah | write your own browser instead :D |
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| 19:51.18 | Chousuke | dontknow: you will waste more time compiling it than the speed gains will ever save you. |
| 19:51.24 | dontknow | Shutdown, i want to build 64 bit intel firefox 16.0.1 |
| 19:51.29 | Shutdown | dontknow: use links2 :) |
| 19:51.41 | dontknow | intel optimized |
| 19:51.51 | hellyeah | hey |
| 19:51.58 | hellyeah | jessie distro didnt work |
| 19:52.00 | pclov3r | does ntfs defualts 0 0 work in the fstab file? |
| 19:52.01 | khaleel5000 | frikinz: so whatto doabout it? leaveit ? (hdparm issue) ? could it beaffecting performance? |
| 19:52.06 | hellyeah | i change wheezy to jessie |
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| 19:52.11 | hellyeah | it didnt work |
| 19:52.13 | dontknow | Chousuke, now i don't care about speed gains. it become obsession, i have to build |
| 19:52.20 | Chousuke | most likely, your build will end up slower than the regular mozilla.debian.net build. |
| 19:52.25 | BW^- | I get "info task journald blocked for more than 120 seconds" error when using the swap (one such error msg for each runinng process) |
| 19:52.29 | dontknow | Chousuke, why? |
| 19:52.31 | BW^- | big probs bc of broken disk medium? |
| 19:52.41 | Chousuke | because you will not have PGO and your build flags will be completely bogus :P |
| 19:53.01 | dontknow | Chousuke, i want to do it with pgo! |
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| 19:53.05 | joker_89 | hi |
| 19:53.09 | wilee-nilee | BW^-, Double posting on separate channels is not encouraged |
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| 19:53.26 | Chousuke | dontknow: good luck |
| 19:53.34 | dontknow | Chousuke, do you know how to do it with 16.0.1 source, what flags should i use etc..? |
| 19:54.32 | Chousuke | dontknow: if you need to ask for such things the chances that you will benefit from compiling it yourself if near zero. Google knows all the answers though if you really must. |
| 19:55.20 | Chousuke | But I recommend saving yourself the headache and just doing something fun or productive instead :P |
| 19:55.26 | Chousuke | because compiling firefox is neither |
| 19:55.47 | dontknow | Chousuke, i need to do that |
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| 19:56.22 | dontknow | Chousuke, google knows nothing about that, i found old articles etc.. old mozconfig files |
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| 19:57.20 | Chousuke | https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Build_Instructions have fun :P |
| 19:57.40 | ioio | Hi all i need to configure x for a larger virtual desktop i need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf but the file is missing |
| 19:57.41 | dontknow | Chousuke, lol i know that article of course |
| 19:57.43 | Shutdown | if i compile a package from source, will it appear in the result of "dpkg -l"? |
| 19:57.59 | pato83 | ioio: so just create it. |
| 19:58.08 | frikinz | Shutdown: yes if you install it |
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| 19:58.36 | Shutdown | frikinz: you mean using the "dpkg -i"? |
| 19:58.52 | frikinz | Shutdown: for example |
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| 19:59.04 | pato83 | ioio: touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf with adequate privileges makes you happy. |
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| 19:59.20 | ioio | pato83 sure my next question was how |
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| 19:59.44 | ioio | pato83 okay |
| 20:00.06 | Shutdown | frikinz: and if i compile using the "./configure ; make ; make install"? |
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| 20:00.56 | Chousuke | not in that case |
| 20:01.18 | Chousuke | but if you apt-get source somepackage, you can build it using eg. debuild and get a debian package. |
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| 20:04.58 | hellyeah | i need a good game about fps in debian |
| 20:05.06 | hellyeah | do you suggest |
| 20:05.39 | Chousuke | Shutdown: You can use checkinstall if whatever you're building isn't packaged, though. It's a dirty hack, but it's better than using plain make install. |
| 20:05.39 | format_c | As it sounds like you rather looking for icc docu review this http://denali.princeton.edu/intel_cc_docs/c_ug_lnx.pdf there are several paragraphs regarding to optimkzation |
| 20:07.11 | ksuhku | hellyeah, tremulous |
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| 20:08.15 | daimrod | or its « successor » unvanquished |
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| 20:10.22 | format_c | dontknow: my last message was intended for you. |
| 20:10.57 | dontknow | format_c, i see |
| 20:10.58 | dontknow | thanks |
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| 20:14.53 | tim__ | I am hving problem installing a LTO4 Tape drive: mt -f /dev/st0 status : mt: /dev/st0: rmtopen failed: Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler |
| 20:15.00 | tim__ | any Idee? |
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| 20:19.41 | BW^- | i have a weird issue, as soon as my system starts using the swap, it more or less freezes and outputs "info task journald blocked for more than 120 seconds" errors for every process. |
| 20:19.50 | BW^- | as part of the debugging: |
| 20:19.56 | BW^- | how do I see which device is mounted sa swap? |
| 20:20.14 | BW^- | looking at "mount"'s output, I do not see any swap device there, even though "top" etc. clearly show 871MB swap. |
| 20:21.47 | BW^- | could it be some kvm-induced "magic extra fast" thing that doesn't show up in "mount", I wouldn't believe so?? |
| 20:21.51 | ZekeS | BW^-: swapon --show |
| 20:22.12 | BW^- | aha. |
| 20:22.15 | BW^- | zekes: it shows: /dev/dm-2 partition 892920 0 -1 |
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| 20:22.38 | BW^- | zekes: is that equivalent with /dev/mapper/debian-swap_1 ?? |
| 20:22.51 | ZekeS | unforunately, past that I have no idea how to help :? |
| 20:22.54 | ZekeS | :/ |
| 20:23.16 | BW^- | k |
| 20:24.12 | ioio | pato83 just creating the file will not generate it's context it will just be a blank file |
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| 20:25.39 | BW^- | when doing dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mapper/debian-swap_1 , saidar showing 0B write on /dev/sda for long periods ,does that indicate broken sectors? |
| 20:25.47 | BW^- | it's in a vps. |
| 20:25.53 | pato83 | ioio: you are right and i thought you want to have that file created. :) |
| 20:25.56 | hellyeah | is there a car racing game on debian repo |
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| 20:26.45 | BW^- | wat do you say? |
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| 20:26.52 | buu | frikinz: Now when I run apt-cache search apache; it segfaults, haha. Bad signs. |
| 20:27.26 | ratcheer | What package do I need to install to provide "gstreamer plugin :Audio CD source"? |
| 20:27.50 | pato83 | ioio: you can run Xorg -configure |
| 20:27.50 | ioio | pato83 yes correct.. perhaps i should detail out my problem |
| 20:28.13 | gihad | Hey guys, is it bad practice to put java '.properties' files in /etc/application/ instead of '.conf' files ? |
| 20:28.30 | Shutdown | Chousuke: thanks |
| 20:28.49 | ratcheer | I tried installing gir1.2-gst-plugins-base-1.0, but it did not help. |
| 20:28.50 | pato83 | ioio: it should create xorg.conf in home directory of the user runnig that command which is most probably root himself. |
| 20:28.52 | ioio | pato83 okay i will try that |
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| 20:29.17 | ioio | pato83 sure not a problem |
| 20:29.22 | Armand | if I'm mounting /var/tmp as tmpfs, should it be storing anything?? And, where is storing the data? |
| 20:30.39 | ioio | pato83 i have Ati firemv 2400 pcie card which is able to display 4 screens |
| 20:30.47 | frikinz | BW^-: one normally does the dd in the opposite. I hope your debian-swap_1 is not in use. |
| 20:31.20 | BW^- | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mapper/debian-swap_1 |
| 20:31.21 | hellyeah | can someone explain |
| 20:31.25 | hellyeah | what does 42 mean |
| 20:31.25 | BW^- | dd: writing to `/dev/mapper/debian-swap_1': No space left on device |
| 20:31.26 | BW^- | ehh |
| 20:31.33 | BW^- | frikinz: it's not in use currently. |
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| 20:31.41 | ioio | pato83 so far only on head is working with the other screen duplicating |
| 20:31.49 | Armand | hellyeah, the meaning of life, the universe and everything? |
| 20:31.49 | BW^- | is /dev/dm-2 == /dev/mapper/debian-swap_1 ? |
| 20:32.07 | hellyeah | Armand: really one number oh crap |
| 20:32.09 | pato83 | ioio: Xorg -configure creates just very basic xorg.conf. Dont expect proper configuration for four screens and so on. |
| 20:32.24 | Armand | hell, yeah... hellyeah .... ermm... yeah |
| 20:32.26 | frikinz | BW^-: one could be a link to the other. you can have info with dmsetup info foobar |
| 20:32.26 | hellyeah | actually |
| 20:32.31 | pato83 | ioio: you will have to adjust the configuration to your needs. |
| 20:32.34 | Armand | 2 numbers. :P |
| 20:32.43 | frikinz | Armand: tmpfs is in ram |
| 20:32.50 | hellyeah | xorg file looks good lots of options which are commented out |
| 20:32.56 | Armand | frikinz, I thought so.. |
| 20:33.15 | hellyeah | Armand: why 42 what is the speciality of 42 |
| 20:33.16 | hellyeah | :D |
| 20:33.26 | pclov3r | I feel stupid asking this question |
| 20:33.33 | Armand | Problem is, I have no swap.. and tmpfs is using too much ram, frikinz |
| 20:33.44 | pclov3r | the ~/.ssh direclty is fine to drop a ssh key into right for the user? |
| 20:33.56 | pclov3r | i forgot. I know thats bad |
| 20:33.58 | pato83 | pclov3r: I feel stupid every day, cant help myself. :D |
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| 20:34.13 | frikinz | Armand: there are things to tweak in /etc/default/tmpfs |
| 20:34.26 | Armand | Ok.. I'll take a nosey. :) |
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| 20:34.30 | hellyeah | Armand: i guess you can create swap in gparted? |
| 20:34.35 | Armand | No |
| 20:34.39 | Armand | flash drive |
| 20:34.39 | hellyeah | hmm |
| 20:34.46 | Armand | I don't want swap on it. ;) |
| 20:34.52 | hellyeah | ha |
| 20:34.59 | hellyeah | you boot linux from flash |
| 20:35.07 | hellyeah | ? |
| 20:35.11 | Armand | frikinz, it's using about 379MB most of the time. |
| 20:35.19 | Armand | Yes, hellyeah |
| 20:35.29 | fjfalcon | Hello all. Can someone help me. I have one interface, one isp, and have 5 static ips from mine isp. I wish to use them five on one interface. If you do ip addr add secondip/29 dev eth0 - second ip don't pinging from outside. No iptables rule about blocking input not set yet. Maybe i missed something? |
| 20:35.33 | Armand | A Compact Flash, to be exact. |
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| 20:36.03 | hellyeah | hmm |
| 20:36.13 | hellyeah | how much ram do you have |
| 20:36.21 | Armand | 768MB |
| 20:36.40 | pato83 | pclov3r: tilda/.ssh (cant find tilda key, i am on my lady mac :D) is the right place to store ssh keys. |
| 20:36.45 | ioio | pato83 sure let me create the basic 1st and let if a screen will come up |
| 20:36.46 | hellyeah | thats creepy |
| 20:36.47 | hellyeah | D: |
| 20:36.49 | Armand | ? |
| 20:36.51 | hellyeah | i have 6gb ram |
| 20:36.57 | Armand | Good for you |
| 20:37.00 | Armand | I don't. |
| 20:37.05 | smithi | Hello everyone. Which mailing-list from <<<www.debian.org/MailingLists>>> would be the most appropriate for a normal user |
| 20:37.11 | Shutdown | what's the difference between squeeze/updates and squeeze-updates in sources.list? |
| 20:37.13 | hellyeah | so you need swap i guess |
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| 20:37.34 | nossitron | 5/quit |
| 20:37.41 | Armand | hellyeah, I'm waiting on a USB caddy to use the old 60GB drive for mass storage |
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| 20:37.54 | Armand | I'll dump swap on there |
| 20:38.02 | Shutdown | hellyeah: i'm running with 128MB and i'm happy :) |
| 20:38.31 | hellyeah | with gnome? or with fluxbox wmaker or something |
| 20:38.32 | hellyeah | .D |
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| 20:38.38 | pato83 | ioio: yes, you are right. it is purely up to you to set it up to suit your needs afterward. |
| 20:38.40 | Armand | I know for a fact that I need swap, but I will have to wait on the caddy. |
| 20:38.43 | born2troll | unetboot => epic waste of my time |
| 20:38.55 | frikinz | smithi: debian-user |
| 20:39.23 | Shutdown | hellyeah: i'm free of graphical interface :) |
| 20:39.27 | hellyeah | what is caddy |
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| 20:39.34 | Armand | An external casing |
| 20:39.36 | frikinz | smithi: http://lists.debian.org/users.html |
| 20:39.48 | harrisonpartch | how can i install to a disk partition having booted a sid-derived iso that provides only a command line? |
| 20:39.49 | format_c | Shutdown: kudos to you |
| 20:39.57 | hellyeah | for example gnome eat more ram than fluxbox or icewim |
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| 20:40.03 | Armand | In my case USB to laptop IDE, hellyeah |
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| 20:40.16 | Shutdown | format_c: what is kudos? |
| 20:40.22 | smithi | frikinz: debian-user included news, current bugs and security announces? |
| 20:40.40 | hellyeah | jessie repo didnt work btw |
| 20:41.20 | pclov3r | damn it have to boot into windows |
| 20:41.35 | ratcheer | pclov3r: Don't do that! |
| 20:41.42 | hellyeah | why not |
| 20:41.42 | hellyeah | :D |
| 20:41.59 | format_c | Shutdown: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kudos |
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| 20:42.14 | pclov3r | i could try wine |
| 20:42.20 | Armand | frikinz, would it be wise to turn it off... or should I just reduce it? |
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| 20:42.30 | Armand | *limit it, rather.. |
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| 20:42.40 | pato83 | pclov3r: no, you dont need to. |
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| 20:43.28 | pato83 | pclov3r: you just struggling, which is fine to most of the people some time. |
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| 20:46.20 | Shutdown | format_c: i did not understand Kudos. Why i would need a carreer planning software? |
| 20:46.58 | Armand | lolololol |
| 20:47.37 | format_c | Shutdown: Kudos (from Greek κῦδος , meaning 'glory') is a singular English word meaning acclaim or praise for exceptional achievement. |
| 20:47.46 | smithi | i'm interested, what you think about the init-system systemd. |
| 20:47.48 | format_c | I uit here |
| 20:47.52 | format_c | Cu |
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| 20:49.39 | Shutdown | what's the difference between squeeze/updates and squeeze-updates in sources.list? |
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| 20:53.36 | born2troll | anyone know a linux that is made to be used from usb stick and not to install it from it? |
| 20:54.13 | xand | born2troll: you can use debian that way. or probably about any distro. |
| 20:54.34 | gele | born2troll: there are a couple. search for live linux distributions. |
| 20:54.35 | born2troll | how? |
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| 20:55.08 | born2troll | anything i frond by now is made to test and install |
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| 20:56.52 | gele | born2troll: search for "debian live", "tiny core linux" or that amnesia thing or what it's called. |
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| 20:57.24 | xand | linux will treat the usb stick as if it's a harddisk, you don't need to do anything fancy. |
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| 20:57.48 | Daphko | Hello i have a problem to restart my ssh |
| 20:58.08 | gele | xand: you probably don't want to do a normal installation to a flash storage device. unless it's a really good one all the writes will make it unusable after a couple of weeks or months. |
| 20:58.14 | tim__ | born2troll: you can easily use grml |
| 20:58.23 | born2troll | if i do a normal installation doesent it relie on any special hardware? |
| 20:58.32 | gele | hence live systems, which are made to run from read-only media. |
| 20:59.05 | born2troll | gele not what i want... it can be stateful |
| 20:59.07 | born2troll | i should be |
| 20:59.22 | xand | gele: not with appropriate mount options and log configuration |
| 20:59.29 | xand | (e.g. mount with noatime) |
| 20:59.59 | Daphko | can anybody help ? |
| 21:00.15 | xand | Daphko: you'll need to provide more information... |
| 21:00.17 | gele | born2troll: many live systems are, they have mechanisms for writing the home directory to a special partition or file on the device now and then. but you don't want all log files and other things to be anywhere other than in memory. |
| 21:00.18 | yeats | Daphko: what's the problem? |
| 21:00.18 | born2troll | okey again... i want a debian i can boot from usb stick. it is not supposed to be a live system to install from its supposed to be a full system |
| 21:00.28 | freeone3000 | http://xkcd.com/908/ |
| 21:00.34 | gele | born2troll: debian live. |
| 21:00.34 | freeone3000 | Err. Sorry. |
| 21:00.37 | freeone3000 | Right-click is paste. |
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| 21:01.11 | pclov3r | does a dual montior task bar exist for Debian? |
| 21:01.16 | gele | born2troll: if you don't care about slowness and flash wear, just do a normal installation. |
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| 21:01.26 | smithi | i'm interested, what you think about the init-system systemd. Faster, more stable, more consistent and better overall. Sounds good. In my opinion, too good. Do you believe that it will really prevail? |
| 21:01.29 | pclov3r | i dont want sperate x interfaces |
| 21:01.42 | born2troll | gele on debian live i have to boot it with the words "install debian" and its haveing a big installer icon on my desktop.... |
| 21:02.05 | pclov3r | if people know of the program ultramon on windows that what i want in debian |
| 21:02.13 | born2troll | gele normal installation... im not sure if that works on different hardware... |
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| 21:03.11 | gele | born2troll: you're not going to be able to stick a x86 debian installation on a usb stick and run it on an arm computer, of course. but as long as it's the same architecture it should work. |
| 21:03.17 | Daphko | i want restart ssh |
| 21:03.19 | Daphko | but get |
| 21:03.21 | Daphko | Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8) |
| 21:03.22 | Daphko | utility, e.g. service ssh restart |
| 21:03.22 | Daphko | Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an |
| 21:03.22 | Daphko | Upstart job, you may also use the stop(8) and then start(8) utilities, |
| 21:03.22 | Daphko | e.g. stop ssh ; start ssh. The restart(8) utility is also available. |
| 21:03.22 | Daphko | ssh start/running, process 15975 |
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| 21:03.48 | pato83 | pclov3r: you will have to describe more what ultramon does. |
| 21:03.53 | Daphko | !paste |
| 21:03.54 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 21:03.55 | xand | Daphko: that is not an error message, it's just information. |
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| 21:04.36 | Daphko | http://paste.debian.net/201399/ |
| 21:04.38 | Daphko | sry |
| 21:04.44 | Daphko | for my mistake |
| 21:04.52 | Daphko | i post it normally;) |
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| 21:05.07 | xand | Daphko: it's not an error. it's telling you of another way to do that. |
| 21:05.12 | born2troll | gele so i shall just install a normal debian like i would do it for my desktop-pc (exept using the usb-drive has hdd) ? |
| 21:05.12 | xand | ssh restarted |
| 21:05.59 | Daphko | this information says me that ssh is restarted ? |
| 21:06.01 | gele | born2troll: yes, that works. but it will probably run much slower and cause much more wear on the usb stick than a system that is designed to be used that way. |
| 21:06.30 | xand | Daphko: this line does: |
| 21:06.31 | xand | 2012-10-17 22:03:22 < Daphko> ssh start/running, process 15975 |
| 21:06.50 | born2troll | gele are u trying to help or giving me more questions with every answer of u? :D |
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| 21:07.12 | pclov3r | pato83, well a taskbar extneded to two montiors |
| 21:07.12 | abrotman | ugh .. |
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| 21:07.20 | pclov3r | but the second montior has it's own tasks |
| 21:07.49 | gele | born2troll: you can install debian to any type of storage medium you want, and as long as you can boot your computer from it, it will work. but systems that are designed to be used in that way, like debian live, will probably work _better_. |
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| 21:09.31 | born2troll | gele ok help me with debian life... lets give it a shot |
| 21:09.39 | nuffigel | hey everyone, do you know how I can specify a PCI bus ID in an udev rule? |
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| 21:09.51 | born2troll | i just dont want a system that is supposed to be a install plattform |
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| 21:11.09 | tim__ | born2troll: grml is debian based and install on a USB stick like dd if=grml.is of=/dev/USB |
| 21:11.32 | born2troll | tim thix ill ceck it out |
| 21:12.41 | born2troll | tim__, sry not what i am looking for... i wanna be able to edit settings on my debian |
| 21:13.06 | abrotman | grml is not debian, they have thier own support channel |
| 21:13.07 | Daphko | xand: thx ;) i try |
| 21:13.34 | abrotman | dpkg: tell nvz about archive |
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| 21:14.02 | born2troll | nooo its abrotman -.- . dude can u plz let me talk with gele. plz |
| 21:14.35 | born2troll | whats a good program to install the img on the usb stick? |
| 21:14.45 | abrotman | which image? |
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| 21:14.57 | born2troll | .img... guess its a dvd image |
| 21:15.06 | abrotman | which .img? |
| 21:15.09 | born2troll | of debian live |
| 21:15.18 | odyi | is having nothing but frustration loading via preseed no matter what mirror he in pointed at |
| 21:15.22 | born2troll | debian-live.img |
| 21:15.28 | odyi | Keep getting timeouts while downloading packages. |
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| 21:15.33 | abrotman | did you read the website? |
| 21:15.50 | abrotman | odyi: dns? |
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| 21:16.15 | odyi | abrotman: Shouldn't be. It is failing at like 6% of downloading the core instal. |
| 21:16.28 | odyi | Retrieves extra installer components though |
| 21:16.48 | odyi | Just started yesterday and I was able to do wheezy just fine, just squeezy failing. |
| 21:16.58 | pato83 | pclov3r: kind of ultramon can be desktop spread over both monitors and you can freely moving windows from one monitor to other. All you should do is connect the second monitor, run some configuration tool to setup display and that is it, I hope. ( if I understand it well ) |
| 21:17.22 | born2troll | abrotman, what has the website to do with it?? i just wanna get the img to the stick... |
| 21:17.34 | abrotman | they have .. instructions .. |
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| 21:17.48 | abrotman | shocker, i know |
| 21:18.46 | pato83 | pclov3r: at least in kde, it detects connected monitors automatically and you just choose the mode. I guess you can do the same under gnome. Might be bit harder to do that under other wm's. |
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| 21:21.34 | KsM | I have a script that runs when a certain key is pressed, and it calls gksudo twice to run something, but since it calls twice, it also prompts for the password twice |
| 21:21.55 | KsM | But, if I run the script from the shell rather than the keybind, it only prompts for the password once |
| 21:22.14 | KsM | how do I have it to have sudo authentication caching like in the shell? |
| 21:22.38 | born2troll | can anyone tell me how i get an .img on an usb stick to make it bootable on debian 6? |
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| 21:23.34 | abrotman | or show him how to use google :( |
| 21:24.07 | Brigo | KsM: you could try to call the script with gksudo directly. |
| 21:24.12 | born2troll | abrotman i did google.... really im looking how i ignore u now.... |
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| 21:24.45 | born2troll | are u paied by bill gates to make useless text here or are u a natural? |
| 21:24.54 | abrotman | waits ... |
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| 21:26.02 | KsM | Brigo: it also calls some graphical stuff, which I don't want to run as root, only the couple commands |
| 21:26.39 | born2troll | ignore abrotman 3 |
| 21:26.47 | abrotman | ... |
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| 21:27.52 | abrotman | born2troll: find it yet? |
| 21:29.36 | KsM | and suddenly gksudo started to do sudo auth caching without me changing anything |
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| 21:29.52 | KsM | Intresting. |
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| 21:30.31 | abrotman | heh |
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| 21:33.31 | lowtax | sudo is a security risk |
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| 21:34.10 | lowtax | if not configured properly |
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| 21:37.18 | KsM | lowtax: I lock my laptop any time when I leave, not like anyone around me will screw with it or know how to anyway |
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| 21:37.36 | lowtax | im just saying in general |
| 21:37.37 | KsM | and I'm sure 5 minutes of caching the authentication isn't too long |
| 21:37.48 | KsM | lowtax: how is it a security risk? |
| 21:38.10 | MrFrood | I very disapointed that "%sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL" apears to be enabled by default on wheezy |
| 21:38.13 | lowtax | because a user password is going to be weaker than a good root password |
| 21:38.26 | jelly-home | lowtax: its default configurations is not a security risk |
| 21:38.54 | lowtax | if its disabled it isnt |
| 21:38.54 | damacus | password quality is always an issue. |
| 21:39.12 | lowtax | a user is also dumb enough to click things in email |
| 21:39.16 | lowtax | or what not |
| 21:39.23 | KsM | How will emails access sudo |
| 21:39.39 | lowtax | i suppose there is no alternative though |
| 21:39.39 | damacus | an admin has to also grant the user sudo access in the first place too |
| 21:39.54 | lowtax | giving a user the root password could be worse :P |
| 21:40.11 | confusid | What is the typical partition type used? ext3 or ext4 if using encription? |
| 21:40.24 | MrFrood | lowtax: chances are that anyone setting up a proper multi-user system will know enough to proply configure things |
| 21:40.26 | lowtax | those are not partition types |
| 21:40.53 | TheWarden | I'm not sure what to do here. I want to use Bugzilla but it appears there is only Bugzilla v3 for a package for Debian Squeeze also Bugzilla 3 is end-of-life and I need a nice web GUI. Do I install the old version or go with the Bugzilla 4 manually? Anyone know of a Bugzilla 4 package? |
| 21:41.07 | lowtax | chances are the customer will just request 'sudo access' for X users and...well ic ant be arsed to get them to specify what exactly they would need it for |
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| 21:42.27 | lowtax | TheWarden: install bugzilla 4? |
| 21:42.52 | pclov3r | hum sensors doesn't work on my mobo |
| 21:43.02 | TheWarden | yeah just would be done without a package and updates for it would be done manually then. |
| 21:43.05 | damacus | lowtax: ask cisco to give you root on their centos-based UCM appliances. |
| 21:43.05 | KsM | pclov3r: have you done sensors-detect? |
| 21:43.08 | pclov3r | yes |
| 21:43.18 | pclov3r | and loaded the kernel mod |
| 21:43.19 | pclov3r | mods |
| 21:43.21 | damacus | you dont have to give access :) |
| 21:43.33 | KsM | hm |
| 21:43.37 | lowtax | i dont have to ask either |
| 21:43.46 | lowtax | probaly sudo su - |
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| 21:44.31 | damacus | sudo can be poorly configured, and people are often given too much access, and that access doesn't get auditted nearly enough |
| 21:44.37 | damacus | but don't put it on the tool |
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| 21:44.47 | damacus | sudo's one of the best things for adminstrative security on most unicies |
| 21:44.50 | lowtax | i make appliances |
| 21:44.54 | lowtax | first thing i did was setup sudoers |
| 21:44.56 | damacus | short of pfexec |
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| 21:45.20 | lowtax | are you saying that on cisco you can just sudo ? |
| 21:45.52 | damacus | no, i'm saying that "you can't be arsed to get them to specify" when I was inferring "they can't be arsed to give it to you just because you ask" |
| 21:46.14 | lowtax | heh |
| 21:46.20 | lowtax | i dont need to ask :) |
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| 21:48.19 | damacus | i imagine you could get in anyway, but that's a business risk if it's a supported appliance and someone has an issue and by way of that cisco or $VENDOR discovered you've tampered with the system in unsupported ways and refused to support that box or system |
| 21:48.46 | damacus | the same as anyone else with physical or vm host level access to a box doesn't have to ask to give themselves sudo access on a linux machine :) |
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| 21:49.42 | KsM | But what about selinux |
| 21:49.45 | apm1 | how do i enable ultranav on my thinkpad on squeeze ? |
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| 21:50.52 | sviz | when wheeze rtm yo? |
| 21:50.53 | born2troll | is this tutorial fine to make a live usb stick? http://wiki.shellium.org/w/HOWTO_Debian_Live |
| 21:51.08 | pclov3r | i wonder if it soemting to do with UEFI |
| 21:51.34 | lowtax | born2troll: $ dd if=binary.img of=/dev/sdz |
| 21:51.52 | lowtax | uefi wont boot linux from usb |
| 21:52.00 | lowtax | switch to legacy |
| 21:52.05 | lowtax | then boot |
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| 21:52.14 | born2troll | lowtax, what? |
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| 21:52.22 | lowtax | bye |
| 21:52.23 | born2troll | all i wanna do is get my img to the stick.... |
| 21:52.33 | lowtax | use dd |
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| 21:52.52 | born2troll | lowtax lie above? |
| 21:53.05 | born2troll | *like |
| 21:53.12 | pclov3r | looks like i need to compile a kernel mod |
| 21:53.18 | pclov3r | no biggie :) |
| 21:54.15 | pclov3r | http://mail.planet-ian.com/w83627ehf/ |
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| 21:58.02 | pclov3r | what shte package for the kernel source? |
| 21:58.07 | pclov3r | kerenl-devel? |
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| 21:58.13 | pclov3r | kernel-devel |
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| 22:00.20 | rikerbe | hi |
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| 22:01.17 | rikerbe | howdy |
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| 22:02.06 | AEX | hi@all |
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| 22:03.36 | AEX | how i must configure bind on debian? can anyone help`? |
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| 22:04.06 | petemc | AEX: you put your config in /etc/bind/named.conf.local |
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| 22:06.07 | AEX | i dont have a config |
| 22:06.31 | update | Aex you have system issues |
| 22:06.51 | AEX | where |
| 22:07.04 | update | Aex Im gonna need your credit card info to remotely access your system and fix issues. |
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| 22:07.07 | petemc | AEX: what exactly do you need to know? |
| 22:07.17 | petemc | AEX: you can probably ignore update |
| 22:07.30 | AEX | ok |
| 22:07.42 | sviz | apt-get install bind |
| 22:07.43 | sviz | ? |
| 22:07.49 | AEX | i must installing about vmware a linux witch apache and dns |
| 22:07.56 | AEX | all is installed |
| 22:07.58 | sviz | if theres no config then you probably deleted it |
| 22:08.09 | petemc | http://wiki.debian.org/Bind9 |
| 22:08.20 | AEX | but i dont know, how i must configure bind for resolving |
| 22:08.25 | sviz | sooo |
| 22:08.30 | sviz | you have a config file? |
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| 22:08.50 | AEX | only the standard config file after install |
| 22:08.52 | petemc | bind works out of the box as a caching nameserver |
| 22:09.02 | sviz | ^^ |
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| 22:09.52 | nannes | hello |
| 22:10.08 | nannes | what's the package name for compat wireless drivers, for this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1285966/ kernel version? |
| 22:10.29 | Shutdown | bye to everybody |
| 22:10.35 | Shutdown | keep linuxing |
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| 22:12.39 | TheWarden | okay this will sound stupid but I'm trying to install perl module GD and it says to install libgd 2+. Well I do a apt-cache search libgd and I'm not sure which package to install. Trying to find the base one but could some one point it out? Maybe GD is not the GD Graphics Library like I thought. |
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| 22:13.08 | gass | hello ... i am having seg faults with accessing ifa_addr struct using this code (equal to the man page) http://pastebin.com/1u63S86K in line 17 if ->sa_family. This was working, does anyone knows why this is happening? |
| 22:13.22 | nannes | pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase my question is simple |
| 22:13.28 | gass | C, by the way |
| 22:13.31 | nannes | I don't have debian in hands to check it :( |
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| 22:13.43 | gass | nannes, what do you need? |
| 22:14.07 | nannes | (00:10:07) <nannes> what's the package name for compat wireless drivers, for this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1285966/ kernel version? |
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| 22:17.28 | Beastie | Hello all |
| 22:17.34 | petemc | nannes: can you pastebin the output of "apt-cache search compat wireless" |
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| 22:17.48 | RobbyF | when does wheezy become stable? any release date |
| 22:17.50 | Beastie | I have no idea why I have no GUI when I installed Debian Power pc |
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| 22:18.06 | Beastie | Everything seemed to install just fine, but no gui boots! |
| 22:18.16 | nannes | petemc: That way it's too simple, I could have done it myself XD |
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| 22:18.34 | nannes | I 've said that I have not a debian-box in here right now |
| 22:18.42 | nannes | for this reason I'm asking you :) |
| 22:18.44 | petemc | oh |
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| 22:18.53 | Beastie | Does anyone know how to rectify this issue? |
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| 22:19.10 | themill | RobbyF: when it's ready. Debian prefers to fix bugs rather than look at calendars |
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| 22:19.51 | RobbyF | of course themill :) |
| 22:22.11 | Beastie | Gawd I always "Almost" get systems to work on the G3 powerpc. |
| 22:22.40 | nuffigel | soo, do you guys know where a system-wide started pulseaudio keeps its .pulse-cookie? |
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| 22:24.33 | gass | nannes, you mean firmware? |
| 22:24.37 | peterrooney | Beastie: try #debianppc |
| 22:24.49 | Beastie | thank you' |
| 22:24.52 | nannes | gass: yes of course |
| 22:25.04 | nannes | compat wireless == custom firmwares for wireless |
| 22:25.10 | gass | nannes, http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=squeeze&keywords=wireless |
| 22:25.26 | peterrooney | Beastie: NP. i've done debian on a variety of macs and frankenmacs - it's usually a challenge |
| 22:25.43 | gass | nannes, or http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=squeeze&keywords=firmware |
| 22:26.12 | nannes | excellent |
| 22:26.33 | nannes | are they for all kernel versions? |
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| 22:26.50 | nannes | i mean it doesn't matter which kernel you have, debian will get the right ones from repos? |
| 22:27.11 | gass | nannes, do you have the debian kernel? if you do ... they're for your kernel |
| 22:27.44 | gass | nannes, for debian, you can type in your browser: http://packages.debian.org/keyword |
| 22:27.52 | gass | and it is like apt-cache search keyword |
| 22:28.09 | gass | some kind of |
| 22:28.11 | nannes | debian kernel is different from official kernel? :S |
| 22:28.30 | nannes | I thought it just offered a pre-compiled version of the official one |
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| 22:30.14 | gass | nannes, yes, with some tweaks |
| 22:30.29 | nannes | ok |
| 22:30.29 | gass | nannes, like the kernel from all distributions |
| 22:30.36 | gass | nannes, the same, but different |
| 22:30.53 | nannes | and why is that? |
| 22:31.04 | nannes | couldn't all just put together all the bug-fix stuff? |
| 22:31.22 | themill | nannes: have you looked at how many million different compilation options there are for the kernel? |
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| 22:31.45 | nannes | ohhh right :P |
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| 22:43.15 | buu | So, guys, my dpkg is returning a segfault on every operation |
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| 22:43.23 | buu | This seems like a bad thing. |
| 22:43.38 | buu | Can anyone give me some help on what's going on? |
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| 22:44.20 | dondelelcaro | buu: strace and/or coredumps might help |
| 22:44.33 | buu | No strace and I can't apt-get it. |
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| 22:45.11 | dondelelcaro | buu: you can, actually; apt-get download strace; dpkg-deb -x strace_blahlbah; etc. |
| 22:46.06 | buu | dondelelcaro: http://scsys.co.uk:8002/210684 |
| 22:46.11 | buu | Let me try your suggestions |
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| 22:47.13 | buu | apt-get doesn't appear to have a download command? |
| 22:47.27 | buu | $ aptitude download strace |
| 22:47.27 | buu | [100%] Building dependency treeSegmentation fault |
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| 22:48.11 | dondelelcaro | buu: apt-get actually does, but not in squeeze. |
| 22:48.19 | buu | Right.. |
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| 22:48.28 | dondelelcaro | buu: anyway, you have strace already in /var/cache/apt/archives/strace_4.5.20-2_amd64.deb |
| 22:48.38 | dondelelcaro | buu: but the fact that aptitude is also segfaulting is kind of suspicious |
| 22:49.20 | buu | http://scsys.co.uk:8002/210685 |
| 22:49.31 | buu | dondelelcaro: I put in a support ticket, they claimed it was working fine. Heh. |
| 22:49.58 | dondelelcaro | buu: I'd suspect some kind of filesystem corruption, actually... |
| 22:50.04 | dondelelcaro | buu: but if you have ar, you can also unpack strace |
| 22:50.24 | buu | I do! |
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| 22:50.58 | dondelelcaro | buu: ar x straceblahblah.deb;, then tar -zxf data.tar.gz; on the data.tar.gz member |
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| 22:51.13 | buu | $ usr/bin/strace |
| 22:51.15 | buu | Segmentation fault |
| 22:51.17 | dondelelcaro | heh |
| 22:51.28 | dondelelcaro | yeah, something is horribly wrong with that computer |
| 22:51.32 | buu | haha |
| 22:51.39 | buu | Do you think it's software or hardware? |
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| 22:51.55 | dondelelcaro | I would guess hardware, but it's hard to say without knowing |
| 22:52.06 | jelly-home | ...more |
| 22:52.10 | buu | Yeah of course |
| 22:52.22 | buu | I guess I'll request a re-install and see how that goes |
| 22:52.23 | dondelelcaro | if it were me, I'd turn on coredumps, transfer a coredump off the machine, and then check it out |
| 22:52.34 | jelly-home | buu: do you have console access? |
| 22:52.51 | ioio_ | pato83 hi |
| 22:53.09 | dondelelcaro | buu: you could also try a reboot first; it's possible that a kernel bug or something else has screwed things up horribly |
| 22:53.53 | buu | jelly-home: I don't think so, just ssh |
| 22:54.12 | jelly-home | then it's not going to be easy to run memtest86 |
| 22:54.12 | dondelelcaro | buu: but I'd get any data I wanted off the machine before I rebooted it |
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| 22:54.25 | buu | It's a brand new server, so no worries there. |
| 22:54.31 | born2troll | can anyone help me i try to install debian live but i think im failing totally -.- |
| 22:54.32 | buu | I'll reboot, see what happens, request a reinstall, etc. |
| 22:54.40 | dondelelcaro | buu: actually, that's usually when these sorts of things fail |
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| 22:55.37 | buu | Yeah |
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| 22:57.20 | born2troll | is there any disk on debian live what brings all it needs not needing data from cd or stuff like that? |
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| 22:57.46 | buu | dondelelcaro: Ah, things are working better right now.. |
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| 22:59.04 | buu | dondelelcaro: One more question, at least for now, W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org stable/updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG AED4B06F473041FA Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (6.0/squeeze) <ftpmaster@debian.org> ? |
| 22:59.33 | jelly-home | that looks like a disk or memory corruption |
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| 23:00.09 | jelly-home | typically security.d.o does not get invalid signatures (I've never caught one) |
| 23:00.15 | buu | Yeah, it seemed .. odd.. |
| 23:00.36 | born2troll | jelly-home, didnt u help me before with debian live? tell me when u have time... im stupid and stuck =/ |
| 23:01.22 | jelly-home | born2troll: perhaps I did, but your current question seems too vague and my experience with debian-live is limited |
| 23:01.34 | jelly-home | also, I still don't like your nickname :-P |
| 23:01.45 | born2troll | ill change it for you :P |
| 23:01.57 | jelly-home | won't change a thing in this case tho |
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| 23:02.24 | dondelelcaro | buu: yeah, you shouldn't be getting that error. Usually that means that a mirror is out of sync, or something in the middle is screwing up packets, or the file on disk has gotten corrupted |
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| 23:02.37 | dondelelcaro | buu: rerunning apt-get update; should fix things up, hopefully |
| 23:02.44 | wissem | hello |
| 23:02.54 | wissem | I can't get my usb headphone to work with alsa audio on debian wheezy :( |
| 23:02.55 | wissem | tried this: http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA#Troubleshooting |
| 23:03.06 | wissem | still nothing |
| 23:03.19 | wissem | even my system sound stopped working now! |
| 23:03.37 | buu | dondelelcaro: I tried a couple of times, same error, soI just ran an upgrade command, which completed successfully.. |
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| 23:04.11 | dondelelcaro | buu: yeah, that'll just mean that any of the security sources will be non-functional |
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| 23:04.25 | ioio_ | Hi all i manage to configure the quad card for only x2 head at moment. the other two are duplicates |
| 23:04.26 | notatroll | jelly-home, i found this... maybe ill give it a shot... it says sth about prohibited on top :S |
| 23:04.28 | dondelelcaro | (well, not non-functional; you'll just get a big warning that the sources aren't trusted) |
| 23:05.19 | ioio_ | does anyone know how to correct this in xorg.conf |
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| 23:05.44 | buu | Still getting the gpg error |
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| 23:06.50 | binbit | . |
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| 23:08.44 | notatroll | ok seems like debian live does not work at all... -.- |
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| 23:23.32 | LU324 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:23.37 | LU324 | any idea on how to fix it? I don't want to just try again, because it did over a half an hour of downloading and will likely have the same error |
| 23:24.57 | dondelelcaro | LU324: check the logs on a console |
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| 23:27.00 | LU324 | dondelelcaro: /var/log/dpkg.log ? |
| 23:27.27 | dondelelcaro | LU324: if you're using the installer, it'll have logs on vt4 and you can see them on vt2 or vt3 with more. |
| 23:27.47 | dondelelcaro | LU324: if you're not using the installer, then there's not too much I can help you with |
| 23:28.05 | LU324 | I shut off the system and then started again with rescue mode, now I have a console |
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| 23:28.26 | dondelelcaro | LU324: you actually wanted to look at the logs while you were still in the installer... |
| 23:28.51 | dondelelcaro | so without that, I can't tell you what went wrong |
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| 23:29.23 | LU324 | dondelelcaro: I found some (probably wrong) info on the internet that you can skip that step and install stuff manually later |
| 23:29.29 | LU324 | that's why i did it |
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| 23:40.59 | LU324 | dondelelcaro: I tried again, it says "you don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives." |
| 23:41.11 | LU324 | on vt4 |
| 23:43.03 | dondelelcaro | LU324: well, that's the problem then. How big is /var? |
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| 23:43.41 | dondelelcaro | LU324: you can either choose not to install all of the things you selected, you can make the filesystem bigger, or you can skip past the error, and not install anything extra |
| 23:44.32 | LU324 | dondelelcaro: can I change the size of the partitions without downloading everything again? |
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| 23:44.56 | dondelelcaro | LU324: not easily, no |
| 23:45.06 | LU324 | (I used the default sizes it chose, and only checked the desktop selection for extra packages) |
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| 23:45.24 | dondelelcaro | LU324: how big is the device that you are installing to? |
| 23:46.32 | LU324 | dondelelcaro: the virtual drive is 8GB, / is 2.4GB, /home is 5.2GB |
| 23:47.20 | notatroll | is there a way to get an .img file on a ext4 formated usb drive? |
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| 23:55.30 | pclov3r | hi |
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| 23:59.05 | d4sh | hey guys |
| 23:59.12 | d4sh | i have a shitty old computer and i want to use it as a server |
| 23:59.29 | d4sh | and i'd like to use wheezy, should i use the netinst distro if i dont want xwindows? |
| 23:59.46 | d4sh | i'd rather just keep it command line based, i dont really need xwindows |
