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| 00:26.02 | mmnicolas | Is there any modern guidelines for building your own kernel the debian way ? I had a nice experience with apt-build with some other things, but it apparently doesn't like kernels |
| 00:26.26 | nkuttler | !tell mmnicolas about kp |
| 00:26.32 | mmnicolas | even though it builds fine when I simply use "make" |
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| 00:27.05 | mmnicolas | oh, nice thanks |
| 00:27.09 | simonlnu | of course it does, but k-p makes nicer .debs |
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| 00:27.55 | simonlnu | (run make help | grep deb you'll see what i mean) |
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| 00:30.32 | mmnicolas | so I could just `make deb-pkg` but it's nicer with what's in kernel-package ? |
| 00:33.54 | mmnicolas | anyway, if I'm reading this right, due to #635563 in kernel-package building the 3.2.0 from the backports won't work |
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| 00:37.05 | cdehaan | Hello! I am wondering if there's a way on Debian 6 to install php5 without apache? |
| 00:37.23 | itsrachelfish | cdehaan: You can install php5-cli |
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| 00:39.00 | cdehaan | itsrachelfish: Thank you!! |
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| 00:48.27 | itsrachelfish | :) |
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| 01:13.46 | linux-fox | hi,aal |
| 01:13.48 | linux-fox | hi,all |
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| 01:15.49 | grothendieck | hi |
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| 01:18.17 | sam__ | anyone have a clue what might be the cause of my 'unable to send mail. "unrecognized transport protocol"' ? |
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| 01:19.00 | sam__ | kmail can fetch just fine but not send. anyone ? |
| 01:19.04 | jeep | sam__: throw some more details out someone can probably help |
| 01:19.53 | sam__ | jeep that's about all i know. i went first to google and there was others with the same problem, but no solutions |
| 01:20.25 | grothendieck | desktop or server? |
| 01:20.43 | sam__ | desktop |
| 01:21.10 | grothendieck | exim? |
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| 01:21.49 | sam__ | kmail, was working fine, and i don't know what changed. also tried evolution, same problem. |
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| 01:22.10 | Girls_Escort | Porn SEx Girls http://fredfilms.blogspot.com |
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| 01:25.29 | sam__ | sorry i thought i mentioned kmail in my first post. my mistake. ;/ |
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| 01:28.59 | mmnicolas | well, sometimes the cause is exactly what it says it is |
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| 01:29.39 | sam__ | what gets me is the fact that kmail could fetch and send mail, but now can only fetch. and i don't know of anything i changed that should/could/would affect it. |
| 01:29.45 | mmnicolas | who is the provider of that email service ? |
| 01:29.54 | mmnicolas | maybe something changed on their side |
| 01:30.00 | sam__ | it's gmail |
| 01:30.37 | sam__ | it's throug my isp dishnet dishmail == gmail |
| 01:30.59 | sam__ | h |
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| 01:31.23 | mmnicolas | maybe some malware is sending email from your account somewhere else and you got banned or something :P |
| 01:31.55 | sam__ | heh could be i guess... anything is possible |
| 01:33.12 | sam__ | but "unrecognized transport protocol" ? how would that be an upstream issue ? |
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| 01:34.39 | mmnicolas | maybe their servers are compromised and the hacker's hack went wrong! |
| 01:35.10 | mmnicolas | I don't know really, but I'd be tempted to try another email service if you are certain you did not change anything |
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| 01:37.10 | sam__ | well i'm not certain it's not my machine/settings or i wouldn't be here ;/ |
| 01:39.50 | mmnicolas | wow, I searched for `smtp "unrecognized transport protocol"`, first result is from opensuse forums, titled: "Kmail problems", unfortunately it's a three-post thread ending with "I don't know why but it works now!" |
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| 01:41.45 | mmnicolas | anyways, looks a lot like your story, only 8 years earlier, the guy also uses a satellite connection, http://forums.opensuse.org/archives/sf-archives/archives-network-internet/312746-kmail-problems.html |
| 01:42.03 | jagginess | mmnicolas, #opensuse |
| 01:42.05 | sam__ | mmnicolas yeah i googled before i came here. there is another link that points to a bug report from the same guy in ubuntu |
| 01:42.24 | sam__ | jagginess ;/ |
| 01:42.40 | jagginess | why do you guys think we use suse/opensuse? |
| 01:42.57 | sam__ | jagginess this has nothing to do with suse ;/ |
| 01:43.17 | mmnicolas | jagginess: .. I just pointed out a coincidence |
| 01:43.48 | mmnicolas | well, doesn't have much to do with debian either |
| 01:43.58 | sam__ | true dat |
| 01:44.00 | mmnicolas | but it could |
| 01:44.12 | jagginess | debian has exim as its default mta |
| 01:44.50 | mmnicolas | Yes. |
| 01:44.52 | jagginess | i dont think exim has anything to do with a foreign service out there.. exim is not that popular enough to be a mere concoidence with commercial services out there |
| 01:45.05 | sam__ | yes and neither exim nor "as i installed to test it" fetchmail/sendmail work for me to send now. |
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| 01:45.37 | jagginess | fetchmail is not part of exim afaik |
| 01:46.59 | jagginess | (fetchmail would not be part of any sendmail package) |
| 01:47.07 | jagginess | (they are both very different) |
| 01:47.09 | mmnicolas | jagginess: we we're talking about kmail possibly misbehaving but it ended but possibly being a common issue for satellite internet user |
| 01:47.42 | jagginess | satellite internet user? Maybe his isp is blocking port 25, and instead should be using port 587 to send email |
| 01:48.19 | mmnicolas | the point is, another dude from the past had the exact same issue with the same email client with the same type of ISP |
| 01:48.22 | sam__ | jagginess yes i'm using 587 and 25 is not blocked |
| 01:48.47 | jagginess | mmnicolas, well that's 8 years ago.. too far away |
| 01:49.22 | sam__ | but the error message is the same from the same email client. "unrecognized transport protocol" |
| 01:49.27 | jeep | history repeats its self |
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| 01:49.46 | jagginess | sam__, mmnicolas, (ask on #linux, there are more people online there) |
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| 01:50.08 | Craigwd_2000 | Something's not right with my AMD64 Debian Wheezy install that I installed from an AMD64 Debian Wheezy 10/10/12 DVD 1 Snapshot build. Installation on my Realtek 8168's firmware worked fine & caused the initrd to get rebuilt. When I tried to install firmware-linux-nonfree for my ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 GPU with 1 GB of GDDR3 it failed to trigger an initrd rebuild like it had always done in the past... |
| 01:50.23 | sam__ | jagginess i'm not registered here and they filter out non-reg. users |
| 01:50.25 | jagginess | craigevil, wheezy is still in beta |
| 01:50.43 | jagginess | sam__, reg is free (you can ask #freenode or google freenode irc for help on how to register) |
| 01:50.57 | jagginess | sam__, (the access is immediate) |
| 01:51.15 | jagginess | Craigwd_2000, (wheezy is still in beta) |
| 01:51.46 | jagginess | Craigwd_2000, the 8168 is quite sometime it's been out.. weird it could be causing problems |
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| 01:52.46 | jagginess | Craigwd_2000, (was the realtek firmware package part of a debian package?) |
| 01:53.02 | Craigwd_2000 | Yes. |
| 01:53.38 | jagginess | Craigwd_2000, there's a command to trigger an initrd.. but what's the error ? |
| 01:55.05 | Craigwd_2000 | No error comes up. I used to keep getting frequent errors about my GPU needing missing firmware files & installing firmware-linux-nonfree always fixed them too... |
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| 01:57.40 | jagginess | Craigwd_2000, you should file a bug report, but you should report the error message |
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| 01:58.01 | jagginess | Craigwd_2000, apt-get <stuff command> | tee myoutputsaved.txt |
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| 02:00.09 | Craigwd_2000 | Ok: will do. Both my Realtek 8168 & my Atheros AR9285 have been acting up lately making it impossible to get online & I can't help but wonder if the ath9k kernel module is acting up again... I wouldn't be surprised if this firmware snafu is causing issues with that module or the rtl8169 module too... |
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| 02:02.40 | Craigwd_2000 | I tried deleting the entry for the Wi-Fi NIC in /etc/network/interfaces but KDE 4's Network Manager still acts up periodically. |
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| 02:04.01 | jagginess | Craigwd_2000, NM still has to use the same kernel module via dbus->udev .. so if it doesnt work in console it wouldnt work graphically |
| 02:05.05 | Craigwd_2000 | It worked for a day when I first made the change & then it quit working again. |
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| 02:17.36 | optraz | how do i check if my current pc has network i/o using cli ? |
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| 02:17.59 | mmnicolas | optraz: ping a remote host ? |
| 02:18.35 | optraz | sorry, what i want is to measure the network i/o using cli in a pc |
| 02:19.17 | mmnicolas | optraz: oh, something like iftop or jnettop would do it |
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| 02:20.20 | damaxus | iperf is pretty good |
| 02:20.30 | damaxus | if you're looking to measure bandwidth etc |
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| 02:21.11 | damaxus | http://openmaniak.com/iperf.php |
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| 02:25.00 | nopcall | clear |
| 02:25.41 | damaxus | opaque |
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| 02:26.20 | zz0 | hi... how can i set debian to run entirely from a proxy? |
| 02:26.27 | basket | anyone have experience with tomato firmware and linksys routers? |
| 02:26.30 | zz0 | im just using text mode here |
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| 02:27.36 | cdehaan | Hello! I'm trying to start a PHP script using init.d, and I'm getting the error (Exec format error). Any ideas?? |
| 02:27.48 | mmnicolas | zz0: you mean, using a proxy for browsing and apt ? |
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| 02:29.30 | zz0 | mmnicolas i mean use for all, network services like wget, curl, ftp etc... |
| 02:29.52 | damaxus | zz0: set your default route to be over a tunnel |
| 02:29.55 | damaxus | like a vpn |
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| 02:30.24 | damaxus | eg you can tunnel a PPP connection over SSH |
| 02:30.38 | damaxus | firewall your ethernet to only reach remote site on ssh port |
| 02:30.47 | damaxus | bring up PPP, use as default route |
| 02:30.52 | damaxus | or something like that :) |
| 02:30.57 | zz0 | you mean just run iptables rule points all ports to my proxy port? |
| 02:31.19 | damaxus | no, iptables would just be a backup to ensure no comms go out over ethernet except for whatever you specify |
| 02:31.52 | mmnicolas | that or $http_proxy |
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| 02:32.15 | mmnicolas | most browsers will honor that, I'm pretty sure wget would too |
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| 02:32.56 | damaxus | that won't cover everything |
| 02:33.10 | mmnicolas | probably not |
| 02:33.13 | damaxus | depends really on what you mean zz0 about running debian entirely from a proxy |
| 02:33.59 | zz0 | damaxus, yes i mean entirely from proxy... |
| 02:34.20 | zz0 | damaxus all my traffic must go out from my proxy |
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| 02:35.37 | mmnicolas | then iptables it is |
| 02:36.09 | zz0 | im was thinking someyhing about like this: iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j SNAT 127.0.0.1:4001 |
| 02:38.32 | zz0 | mmnicolas, my battery is draining very fast... hehehhe so im gona ask you fast... |
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| 02:39.27 | damaxus | http://dtbaker.com.au/random-bits/redirect-all-traffic-through-transparent-socks5-proxy-in-linux.html |
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| 02:39.38 | zz0 | mmnicolas, have you ever run any kind of anon proxy or mixis proxys? |
| 02:39.39 | damaxus | theres one using a SOCKS proxy if you dont want to do PPP |
| 02:40.21 | damaxus | its not gonna be a one-liner regardless |
| 02:40.40 | damaxus | most people proxy btw using VPNs. its just easier. |
| 02:40.47 | damaxus | or they only tunnel specific traffic |
| 02:42.31 | zz0 | damaxus, yes but this way i can navegate passing trough various servers? |
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| 02:42.58 | zz0 | damaxus, i mean multiple hops... |
| 02:43.38 | dub | is there a way to tell if the tg3 (broadcom NIC) driver I have loaded is teh free or non-free version? (I have installed firmware-linux-nonfree) |
| 02:43.39 | zz0 | damaxus, im think trough VPN i use just one route... |
| 02:44.17 | dub | lspci tells me 'Kernel driver in use: tg3' |
| 02:44.31 | zz0 | oh ou... my battery is going |
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| 02:45.56 | ragix | Hi Guys, has anyone here played around with rp's pppoe-server? |
| 02:45.58 | damaxus | there are ways, but it's beyond the scope of this channel |
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| 02:49.06 | dub | damaxus: was that for me? |
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| 02:50.23 | damaxus | no, for zz0 |
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| 02:52.08 | EasyAsPie | hi |
| 02:52.21 | dvs | wazzup |
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| 02:52.39 | satwood | is there any phasing out of 32 bit debian, or packages for 32 bit debian ? i have come across at least one package that is supported only in amd64, but not 32 bit |
| 02:53.31 | damaxus | satwood: what package? and no. i386 is 2nd most popular arch out there. far more esoteric are supported. |
| 02:53.45 | damaxus | i'd imagine i386 will be around for a very long time. |
| 02:53.53 | EasyAsPie | hi dvs |
| 02:53.59 | satwood | damaxus: ok |
| 02:54.19 | satwood | is the 64 bit install similar to 32 bit install ? except the cd is different ? |
| 02:54.57 | damaxus | basically the same packages, just a 64 bit kernel and 64bit libs, etc |
| 02:54.58 | mmnicolas | similar, not to say identical |
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| 02:57.21 | satwood | damaxus: are text files going tobe same all through ? |
| 02:57.45 | damaxus | pretty much |
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| 02:59.16 | damaxus | obvious cases where it wouldnt would be ld.so.conf-related stuff, the apt sources.list, etc |
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| 02:59.43 | damaxus | i'm not a distro maintainer though, other people probably could give a much more informed answer |
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| 03:06.42 | zz0 | damaxus, with ssh works... i use the conection command like this one: ssh -L4001:127.0.0.1:4001 user@ip -p hostport |
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| 04:15.46 | safridzal | when im using ubuntu, sometimes i was promted to do a disk check on boot time, how to make it this auto check on debian? |
| 04:15.53 | safridzal | im using testing here |
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| 04:18.24 | nevyn | it's automatic |
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| 04:18.36 | nevyn | filesystems autocheck after n days or n mounts |
| 04:19.09 | simonlnu | you can force one with "touch /forcefsck". but yes, it's automatic. depends on time since last check, how many times, or both, or neither. but they have some defaults at creation time. |
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| 04:19.35 | safridzal | nevyn: afaik, the default value is like 35 or so, but i've using this debian for about a months, and never see a auto disk check |
| 04:19.56 | nevyn | you can see what it is with e2info or something umm.. |
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| 04:21.01 | safridzal | ddg-ing right now..brb |
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| 04:22.32 | adyb | hi. Only with debian weezy can I installed under xen with more than 6 cpu support? thanks |
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| 04:28.32 | jaggz | should I just symlink a new "aptitude" -> aptitude-curses? |
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| 04:28.55 | jaggz | my lenny->squeeze update doesn't have a plain binary named "aptitude" |
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| 04:36.24 | boudiccas | jaggrapt-apt-get remove youraptitudep[ackaage and then apt-get install aptitude, no problems |
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| 05:26.13 | muhoo | considering buying one of these this weekend: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+14%22+Laptop+-+8GB+Memory+-+750GB+Hard+Drive+-+Black/6775213.p;tab=specifications?id=1218806578593&skuId=6775213 |
| 05:26.41 | muhoo | and taking a US$1k gamble to see if wheezy will install on it |
| 05:27.20 | muhoo | what do you suppose my odds would be? |
| 05:28.07 | streuner | !+tell muhoo about laptops |
| 05:28.54 | muhoo | streuner: it didn't. what's the name of the bot again? |
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| 05:29.32 | streuner | muhoo: dpkg is one of them, but check that out - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ |
| 05:30.03 | streuner | muhoo: if this laptop is too new, just use google |
| 05:30.27 | muhoo | streuner: it hasn't been released yet. |
| 05:30.36 | streuner | oh |
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| 05:30.57 | muhoo | release date is friday. i am tempted to take a wild risk and see what happens, but figured i'd ask first. |
| 05:31.11 | streuner | muhoo: in this case, you should know about the hardware... |
| 05:31.13 | muhoo | i did find a pre-release demo model, and booted a usb stick on it, and it worked |
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| 05:33.10 | muhoo | but i know nothing of uefi, and installing is very different from booting a usb live image |
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| 05:37.02 | boudiccas | muhoo, bear in mind that it might be too new for wheezy as it wont have drivers written for it |
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| 05:38.06 | muhoo | well what i booted was an old avlinux distro (squeeze-based), which is what i happened to have handy. |
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| 05:38.56 | muhoo | and it worked, meaning, booted all the way up to x, trackpad worked, sata drive accessible, all usb devices operational |
| 05:39.12 | muhoo | no wifi, but unsurprising given age of that kernel. |
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| 05:40.01 | muhoo | oh, bluetooth worked too. |
| 05:40.07 | boudiccas | find out what graphics card it takes and then ask about drivers for it in #debian-next over on irc.oftc.net |
| 05:40.24 | muhoo | graphics worked too :-) as i said, it booted into x. |
| 05:40.41 | muhoo | boudiccas: but i'll ask there too, thanks |
| 05:40.43 | boudiccas | ditto for the wifi, because theure the ones that you'll more than likely have problems with |
| 05:40.55 | muhoo | yep. wifi's always a PITA |
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| 05:42.27 | muhoo | i did notice an odd phenomenon though. i mounted a separate usb stick on it, and even though mount was showing it as rw, i got "read only filesystem" errors when writing to it. |
| 05:43.08 | muhoo | which made me suspicious about maybe some uefi security crap. but i was able to get into the bios and turn off secure boot, indeed turned off uefi completely afaict |
| 05:43.33 | muhoo | but i'll move this to #debian-next and see what they say there |
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| 05:44.41 | boudiccas | you may have to waight for people to wake up there, its only 0645 here in the UK |
| 05:45.01 | muhoo | np. |
| 05:45.38 | muhoo | is OFT's #debian the main #debian channel? istr the freenode one (this one) being the main channel |
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| 05:46.39 | boudiccas | i think #d is more or less the same on both networks |
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| 05:47.15 | sebas-89 | Hi buddies |
| 05:47.18 | sebas-89 | how long time! |
| 05:48.03 | msmith0957 | i'm trying to install package 'gtk-doc' but i suppose my current repositories dont hold it. where can i find it ? |
| 05:48.46 | sebas-89 | packages.debian.org/ |
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| 05:50.30 | boudiccas | msmith0957, what version of debian are you using? |
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| 05:51.12 | boudiccas | ,v gtk-docs |
| 05:51.13 | judd | No package named 'gtk-docs' was found in i386. |
| 05:51.14 | msmith0957 | 6.0 i believe |
| 05:51.38 | boudiccas | ,v gtk-doc |
| 05:51.39 | judd | No package named 'gtk-doc' was found in i386. |
| 05:51.42 | msmith0957 | i kno theres a gtk-docs-tools, but im trying to build glib and i need gtk-doc |
| 05:51.52 | msmith0957 | or, so they say |
| 05:52.05 | boudiccas | well as you can see from what judd says, its not in the repos |
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| 05:52.33 | msmith0957 | yeah, i figured that much |
| 05:52.39 | msmith0957 | im sure theres a repo somewheree that has it |
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| 05:53.03 | boudiccas | so you're only option is to build it from source, good luck :) |
| 05:53.22 | msmith0957 | gah |
| 05:53.33 | sebas-89 | or go to Ubuntu |
| 05:53.36 | sebas-89 | man |
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| 05:53.56 | msmith0957 | heh, only reason i'm using debian is because ubuntu is a little heavy to run in a vm |
| 05:54.06 | msmith0957 | when i actualy boot into linux i use ubuntu |
| 05:54.36 | sebas-89 | oh |
| 05:54.52 | sebas-89 | that was a joke anyway |
| 05:55.23 | msmith0957 | oops |
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| 05:58.38 | sebas-89 | this channel has not life |
| 05:58.50 | sebas-89 | with 1167 persons |
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| 05:59.24 | boudiccas | sebas-89, dont be a twit, just read the conversations that have been going on |
| 05:59.51 | sebas-89 | boudiccas: take it easy man |
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| 05:59.58 | sebas-89 | rock and peace |
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| 06:00.09 | boudiccas | sebuswrong! i'm not a man, i'm female |
| 06:00.23 | sebas-89 | oh sure you're beautiful |
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| 06:01.11 | bluesm | How to make "find" command |
| 06:01.25 | jeep | well its usually safe to assume male linux is generally the boys club |
| 06:01.28 | bluesm | search only folder files - not subdirectories. |
| 06:01.37 | bluesm | Or specify deep-level. |
| 06:01.38 | bluesm | ? |
| 06:02.05 | sebas-89 | bluesm: find -maxdepth X |
| 06:02.08 | apm1 | do all SSD s support TRIM with wheezy ? |
| 06:02.11 | sebas-89 | where X is a number |
| 06:02.22 | sebas-89 | 1 is the minus |
| 06:02.47 | sebas-89 | There |
| 06:02.53 | sebas-89 | find -maxdepth 1 |
| 06:03.10 | ise | bluesm, find . -maxdepth 1 -type f |
| 06:03.17 | format_c | WTH is TRIM? |
| 06:04.18 | bluesm | ise: -type f ? |
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| 06:05.14 | apm1 | format_c, ever heard of fstab ? and marking a file system with a discard flag , that is trim on linux :) |
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| 06:05.23 | bluesm | sebas-89: 1 is the minus ? |
| 06:05.54 | sebas-89 | bluesm: sorry for my english |
| 06:06.14 | sebas-89 | maxdepth 1 don't search in subdirectories |
| 06:06.36 | sebas-89 | 2= one subdirectory, 3= two subdirectories |
| 06:06.38 | sebas-89 | etc |
| 06:06.39 | bluesm | sebas-89: I don't care. But what do you mean saying "l is minus" ? |
| 06:06.53 | format_c | apm1: Sure I know fstab. But Hafner Set Herd about that discard flag |
| 06:06.55 | bluesm | "1 is minus" |
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| 06:07.11 | format_c | apm1: where is it Dokumenten? In Mammut? |
| 06:07.28 | format_c | Man mount i meint |
| 06:07.51 | format_c | Arg this shitty autocorrection |
| 06:08.04 | sebas-89 | bluesm: I wanto to say minor really |
| 06:08.19 | bluesm | sebas-89: I don't care! :) Thank you very very much! |
| 06:08.22 | sebas-89 | said |
| 06:08.28 | sebas-89 | bluesm: you're welcome |
| 06:08.45 | apm1 | format_c, http://www.howtogeek.com/62761/how-to-tweak-your-ssd-in-ubuntu-for-better-performance/ |
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| 06:09.38 | apm1 | format_c, http://wiki.debian.org/SSDoptimization |
| 06:10.40 | bluesm | sebas-89: Do you know how to pass the "find" values to "cp" command. And copy multiple files to the folder? |
| 06:10.55 | pclov3r | I wish debian 7 was stable lol |
| 06:11.22 | apm1 | anyone has a stable conky on wheezy ? |
| 06:11.30 | format_c | apm1: i See. Its mainly for ext3 ext4filesystem Optimistin. I recently switched to btrfs with the ssd Option. |
| 06:11.48 | apm1 | format_c, ok :) |
| 06:12.35 | format_c | It Runs much faster with my SSD Even without Special Hacks |
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| 06:13.46 | sebas-89 | bluesm: I don't know that |
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| 06:14.06 | sebas-89 | the most easy will be with a scrpit |
| 06:14.16 | sebas-89 | *script |
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| 06:19.14 | sebas-89 | bluesm: Try this: find /home/ -name "NAME" -exec cp -p '{}' /NAME/NAME/ ';' |
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| 06:35.57 | bluesm | Can anybody explain me what this |
| 06:35.59 | bluesm | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:36.03 | bluesm | Command does ? |
| 06:36.22 | bluesm | I mean -exec , -c {} and ';' ? |
| 06:37.21 | jelly-home | bluesm: it's just normal syntax for -exec, read http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind#Actions_in_bulk:_xargs.2C_-print0_and_-exec_.2B- |
| 06:38.46 | jelly-home | bluesm: if you're unsure, you can add echo just before cp and see what happens |
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| 06:42.40 | parmegv | ewook: I am not interested in splitting the package that way, I just want to create one package for installation. I was not trying to do it, if on the other hand that was you question |
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| 07:01.28 | Guest11207 | i installed shorewall 4582 on debian 606 but it doesnt start when i boot. in /etc/defaul/shorewall startup=1 and in shorewall.conf startup_enabled=yes |
| 07:01.55 | Guest11207 | i have on that machine fail2ban+iredmail. do you think that some rules written by ired in iptables conflicts with shorewall ? |
| 07:02.20 | Guest11207 | any ideas ? |
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| 07:17.00 | l0p3n | Hello! I've just finished installing Debian. But there's a problem. When I start the computer all I end up seeing is a black screen, the same thing happens in recovery mode. Is there anything I can do to fix this? |
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| 07:18.37 | AlexLikeRock_ | how can i install "libsdl1.2debian-alsa" |
| 07:18.41 | somiaj | l0p3n: sounds like xorg isn't configured correctly. can you hit ctrl-alt-f1 and get to a console? |
| 07:19.07 | AlexLikeRock_ | i dont found on repositories :-( |
| 07:19.10 | somiaj | AlexLikeRock_: apt-cache search libsdl1 -- that will show you want packges match that |
| 07:19.19 | somiaj | AlexLikeRock_: what version of debian are you running? |
| 07:19.23 | AlexLikeRock_ | sid |
| 07:20.47 | l0p3n | somiaj: Yes I did try that, and what I get when I press that key combination is a mix of colors in the middle of the screen. |
| 07:20.48 | AlexLikeRock_ | "libsdl1.2-dbg - Simple DirectMedia Layer debug files |
| 07:20.49 | AlexLikeRock_ | libsdl1.2-dev - Simple DirectMedia Layer development files |
| 07:20.49 | AlexLikeRock_ | libsdl1.2debian - Simple DirectMedia Layer |
| 07:20.49 | AlexLikeRock_ | " |
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| 07:21.49 | AlexLikeRock_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:22.05 | streuner | judd, versions fceux |
| 07:22.06 | judd | No package named 'fceux' was found in i386. |
| 07:22.27 | l0p3n | somiaj: I can enter grub, maybe I can do something from there? |
| 07:22.42 | AlexLikeRock_ | mmmm , i don foud onsynaptic |
| 07:23.01 | AlexLikeRock_ | just foun "fceu" without "x" |
| 07:23.14 | AlexLikeRock_ | let me see on the web .... |
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| 07:23.36 | AlexLikeRock_ | streuner version 2.1 |
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| 07:30.10 | streuner | AlexLikeRock_: it seems to me its not in Debian yet, just take a look at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/f/fceux/fceux_2.1.2+repack-0ubuntu1.dsc |
| 07:30.55 | streuner | AlexLikeRock_: just make your own package |
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| 07:32.43 | streuner | AlexLikeRock_: /msg dpkg debian/rules for more details, btw that file is in the *bunt* package too... |
| 07:32.49 | jelly-home | someone has already done that: http://mentors.debian.net/package/fceux |
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| 07:39.21 | satwood | what does the following command exactly do ? groupadd abcd; useradd -g abcd -G "" abcd; id abcd |
| 07:40.04 | jelly-home | satwood: is that a homework question? |
| 07:40.23 | satwood | jelly-home: no actual question |
| 07:40.38 | satwood | the -G "" part |
| 07:41.11 | jelly-home | probably the same thing as without -G at all |
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| 07:41.59 | geoffr | Hi all, is there a way to know which services will be restarted in the 'aptitude upgrade' run without running it? |
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| 07:48.33 | AlexLikeRock_ | streuner: tanks |
| 07:48.54 | streuner | AlexLikeRock_: you are welcome |
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| 07:51.42 | parmegv | I already got it, I need to specify "make install" to install in $(DESTDIR) |
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| 07:52.26 | parmegv | But now, it seems that $(DESTDIR) is not /usr/bin. How can I say it from the "debian" directory? I just want "debuild -us -uc" do all the work |
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| 08:02.07 | AlexLikeRock_ | jelly-home how to intall ? |
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| 08:02.39 | AlexLikeRock_ | i never see "mentors.debian.net" |
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| 08:03.01 | AlexLikeRock_ | download the "fceux_2.1.5+dfsg-1.dsc" file ? |
| 08:03.28 | AlexLikeRock_ | i don t foud the ".deb" |
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| 08:10.11 | Nola | hi all |
| 08:10.19 | AlexLikeRock_ | hi |
| 08:10.55 | Nola | Is there a dh_ helper that helps with installing gettext related files (.mo)? |
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| 08:20.18 | bluesm | Hi |
| 08:20.27 | bluesm | What does mean {} after -exec ? |
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| 08:24.23 | AlexLikeRock_ | hi bluesm |
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| 08:24.33 | Nola | @bluesm: {} will be replaced with the current file name being processed. |
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| 08:34.06 | ag4ve | how can i specify an external shell to schroot? |
| 08:34.55 | ag4ve | basically, schroot sets up all the proper mountpoints and mounts, sh i'd like to start an schroot session and then run debootstrap |
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| 08:36.24 | ngokla | is there a command or script to copy the files of x.* which are in several dirs in one filesystem to the sames dirs in another filesystem? |
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| 08:38.10 | donnib | hi |
| 08:38.23 | donnib | i am looking for help on iptables, is this the appropiate place to ask ? |
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| 08:39.03 | Nesh | hello |
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| 08:39.18 | dario | donnib: there's always #iptables ;) |
| 08:39.22 | Nesh | I am running Debian6 and trying to setup a crontab with a shell script I have created |
| 08:39.29 | donnib | dario: oh, didn't see that, thx |
| 08:39.32 | dario | donnib: or #netfilter rather |
| 08:39.37 | Nesh | I cannot manage to make it work though |
| 08:39.39 | Nesh | :( |
| 08:39.55 | Nesh | it seems it starts but I get errors I didnt get with the shell |
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| 08:40.23 | dario | Nesh: the environment is not the same inside the cronjob run of the script |
| 08:40.25 | adyb | hi. is there a problem with debian 6 to de installed as a VM on more than 6 vCPU's ? |
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| 08:40.34 | adyb | in xen cloud |
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| 08:41.04 | Nesh | dario I see, anyway this is the script |
| 08:41.05 | Nesh | http://pastebin.com/qgPdYP4e |
| 08:41.18 | Nesh | so how would I do this? using crontab? |
| 08:41.23 | Nesh | I would prefer to have it realtime |
| 08:41.34 | Nesh | but it is impossible, so I need to use a crontab each 5 minutes |
| 08:41.47 | Nesh | it is basically cloning the repo and setting it up on our dev host |
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| 08:42.10 | Nesh | within 5 min you get the running last version on the host |
| 08:42.13 | Nesh | which is cool |
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| 08:44.21 | ag4ve | ngokla: you probably waht something like: find $PWD -type f -name "x.*" -print0 | xargs -0 -i{} scp {} user@host:dir |
| 08:44.41 | ag4ve | ngokla: i'd recommend looking at what rsync can do for you here as well |
| 08:44.42 | Nesh | anyway dario, my script is sitting in / should I move it somewhere else? |
| 08:45.24 | dario | hm.. script looks kinda ok. do you know what exactly goes wrong? |
| 08:45.42 | Nesh | 1 sec |
| 08:45.48 | ag4ve | ngokla: also, if you don't do ControlPersist, it'll take forever :) |
| 08:45.54 | Armand | So... I've connected a USB hard drive to my Debian box, but it refuses to use the swap partition on boot? :( |
| 08:46.06 | Nesh | using * * * * * /updater_git.sh |
| 08:46.08 | Nesh | I get |
| 08:46.08 | Armand | I set it in /etc/fstab but no joy.. |
| 08:46.18 | Nesh | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:46.25 | Nesh | and that is a file I have |
| 08:46.29 | Nesh | somewhere |
| 08:46.32 | Armand | I have to 'swapon --a' each time I start up |
| 08:46.33 | Nesh | I think |
| 08:46.42 | ag4ve | Armand: try using uid's |
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| 08:46.55 | ag4ve | errr uuid |
| 08:46.55 | Armand | Ok. |
| 08:46.55 | Nesh | dario Im gonna check, because I dont remember pushing it |
| 08:46.58 | Armand | ;) |
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| 08:48.23 | Nesh | ok dario |
| 08:48.34 | Nesh | it basically tries to run the first element in my folder |
| 08:48.46 | Nesh | I had, for some reason, that file in my root folder |
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| 08:48.49 | Nesh | after removing it |
| 08:48.51 | Nesh | I got |
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| 08:48.58 | Nesh | -bash: bin: command not found |
| 08:49.15 | Nesh | which is my first folder, alphabetically |
| 08:49.34 | Nesh | so this must be wrong: * * * * * /updater_git.sh |
| 08:50.09 | ngokla | ag4ve: thks for the suggestion. m familiar with rsync but can't figure how it can be used in this case. |
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| 08:51.08 | ag4ve | well than use find and scp... |
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| 08:51.26 | ag4ve | ngokla: iirc, you want to set a filter in rsync |
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| 08:51.50 | ngokla | yeah, rsync with the right filter. |
| 08:51.52 | ag4ve | ngokla: if you use debian stable you'll need to compile ssh to get the Persist stuff |
| 08:52.18 | ngokla | m using squeeze. |
| 08:52.39 | ag4ve | ok, you're probably good than |
| 08:52.50 | ngokla | thks. |
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| 08:53.16 | ag4ve | i think it goes without saying that you want to copy your public key to authorized_keys on your destination |
| 08:53.17 | Nesh | can anyone else help me with this crontab problem? |
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| 08:58.39 | joltcan | Nesh: Sorry, what are you trying to do? Run updater_git every minute? |
| 08:59.01 | Nesh | yeah, or every 5 otherwise the server will go crazy |
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| 08:59.54 | joltcan | Nesh: In which crontab? For a user, root or /etc/crontab? |
| 09:00.09 | Nesh | well I am the root |
| 09:00.17 | Nesh | and there is no other user |
| 09:00.24 | joltcan | Nesh: Does /updater_git.sh start with #!/bin/bash or some other shell? |
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| 09:00.31 | Nesh | yeah |
| 09:00.39 | Nesh | u can check it here |
| 09:00.48 | Nesh | http://pastebin.com/qgPdYP4e |
| 09:00.56 | joltcan | Nesh: And /updater_git.sh is actually in the root of the filesystem? (which seems like a bad place for a script) |
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| 09:01.03 | Nesh | yeah, I know |
| 09:01.08 | Nesh | but I can move it, of course |
| 09:01.11 | Nesh | I just finished creating it |
| 09:01.33 | Nesh | I have read that it would be useful to put it in /etc/crontab |
| 09:01.39 | Nesh | but that will run it only once a day |
| 09:01.41 | Nesh | or so |
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| 09:02.00 | joltcan | Nesh: then "*/5 * * * * root /updater_git.sh" in /etc/crontab |
| 09:02.20 | Nesh | so I move my bash in /etc/crontab |
| 09:02.23 | Nesh | and then run that? |
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| 09:02.41 | Nesh | sorry |
| 09:02.43 | Nesh | I mean script |
| 09:02.45 | Nesh | meant} |
| 09:03.02 | joltcan | Nesh: whatever I wrote above |
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| 09:03.23 | Nesh | kay |
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| 09:03.56 | Nesh | ps. joltcan I dont have such folder |
| 09:04.03 | Nesh | just creating it would do? |
| 09:04.18 | Nesh | oh way |
| 09:04.18 | Nesh | wait |
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| 09:04.48 | Nesh | I have something called crontab |
| 09:04.53 | Nesh | but it says it is not a folder |
| 09:05.16 | joltcan | Nesh: No, it's a file |
| 09:05.21 | Nesh | ok |
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| 09:05.36 | Nesh | oo |
| 09:05.38 | Nesh | I see now |
| 09:05.42 | joltcan | Nesh: I meant you should add that line to that file. Then the script is called every 5 min |
| 09:05.50 | Nesh | yeah I got that now |
| 09:05.54 | Nesh | after I checked the content |
| 09:06.15 | joltcan | the different between editing roots crontab and /etc/crontab is that you have to specify the user in /etc/crontab |
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| 09:07.54 | Nesh | ok, thanks joltcan |
| 09:07.58 | Nesh | just 1 thing |
| 09:08.00 | Nesh | should it be |
| 09:08.04 | Nesh | ./updater_git |
| 09:08.05 | Nesh | ? |
| 09:08.16 | Nesh | as it is a command, isn't it? |
| 09:08.53 | Nesh | I have moved my script and the line looks like this: * /5 * * * * root /usr/local/var/scripts/updater_git.sh |
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| 09:10.24 | apm1 | i havee the gnome 3 meta package installed on my wheezy system , will installing xfce and xfce power manager cause any conflict with gnome 3 power manager ? |
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| 09:11.40 | joltcan | Nesh: It needs to be the exact path and name |
| 09:12.01 | Nesh | thanks, joltcan. I have changed it to 3 minutes and now Im testing whether it works or not |
| 09:12.10 | Nesh | gonna tell you soon ;) |
| 09:12.14 | joltcan | Nesh: Almost. It should be */5, to make it every 5 min, not "* / 5" |
| 09:12.19 | Armand | ag4ve, I've tried the UUID and it makes no difference.. |
| 09:12.57 | Armand | ag4ve, Do you think it could be "vm.swappiness=0" in sysctl.conf ? |
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| 09:18.59 | Nesh | perfect, it works joltcan! |
| 09:19.01 | Nesh | :D |
| 09:19.06 | joltcan | Nesh: \o/ |
| 09:20.13 | apm1 | anyone uses both xfce and gnome 3 on wheezy ? |
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| 09:41.27 | iliv | In all honesty, I don't see/understand how this is beneficial, but I'd love to learn more about that. |
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| 09:59.09 | AlexLikeRock_ | i foun a program they need "intltool" but on synaptic are 2 , 1.- intltool and 2.- intltool-debia (curremtill intalet ) |
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| 09:59.35 | AlexLikeRock_ | i need the #1 or not ? |
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| 10:04.08 | Lasse- | "Intltool is a bunch of scripts written by the GNOME project to internationalize many different file formats. This package is a slightly modified version which adds support for RFC822 compliant config files, e.g. Debconf templates files." |
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| 10:04.13 | Lasse- | description of the second package. |
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| 10:07.09 | zetheroo | I have added a bridge interface on a server running Debian using brctl addbr ... the bridge works great and all , but when the server is rebooted the br0 interface is no longer existing and has to be recreated manually all over again. How does one save the br0 interface for good? |
| 10:07.21 | zetheroo | this is Debian Wheezy btw |
| 10:07.39 | fir_ed | there used to be a story about BSD users trolling this channel on the debian website, anyone remember it? |
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| 10:09.53 | Lasse- | I don't get distrowars and stuff, who cares. |
| 10:10.00 | imdea | Hi, I need some help. I have an external USB hdd and I want to grant permissions to a non-root user to be able to mount it on his $HOME. I've added this lines to the fstab file: rw,uid=10022,gid=10012,dmask=0002,fmask=0003 (in the options field) but it doesn't work, I receive this error: "Only root can mount ..." |
| 10:10.02 | imdea | any ideas? |
| 10:10.15 | Lasse- | "NO HE'S NOT USING SAME DISTRO, HE SUCKS *FLAME FLAME FLAME*" god damn nerds |
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| 10:10.24 | Lasse- | or even same os. |
| 10:10.31 | fir_ed | lol Lasse- |
| 10:10.33 | fir_ed | :P |
| 10:10.39 | KamZou` | I'm trying to forward RDP via ssh (http://quark.humbug.org.au/publications/notes/ssh-portforward.txt) nothing happens on my linux client when i rdesktop localhost (except : Autoselected keyboard map fr) |
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| 10:18.37 | AlexLikeRock_ | tanks lasse :) |
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| 10:19.31 | thewanderer1 | zetheroo, use /etc/network/interfaces. specify a non-existent bridge name (just make one up, like br0), and use bridge_ports eth0 eth1 .... etc. to specify slave interfaces |
| 10:19.59 | thewanderer1 | also, I am not completely sure, but you might need a "iface eth0 inet manual" or similar for all slave ifaces so that they are brought up on boot |
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| 10:26.41 | thewanderer1 | zetheroo, good, now in the br0 group, add another line: bridge_ports ... |
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| 10:26.52 | thewanderer1 | and list the ports you want, delimited by spaces. done! |
| 10:27.01 | pclov3r | do you think debian 7 is stable enough to install and run ? |
| 10:27.17 | thewanderer1 | zetheroo, (btw. you don't need "network" nor "broadcast" anymore, it's automatically computed) |
| 10:27.30 | zetheroo | ok |
| 10:27.44 | zetheroo | ports as in eth0 etc? |
| 10:27.51 | thewanderer1 | yes |
| 10:28.54 | zetheroo | ok, I got this now http://paste.ubuntu.com/1302210/ |
| 10:29.46 | thewanderer1 | zetheroo, need to indent bridge_ports (<tab>)... put it in the stanza |
| 10:30.04 | imdea | anybody? |
| 10:30.15 | zetheroo | ok, like so? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1302215/ |
| 10:30.23 | thewanderer1 | looks ok |
| 10:30.44 | zetheroo | do I need to do anything to make br0 not disappear after reboot? |
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| 10:31.29 | thewanderer1 | it doesn't "disappear" - it is simply a logical construct that exists in RAM only, and it needs to be recreated on boot. this is what the config file will do from now on. |
| 10:32.04 | zetheroo | ok, so I should be able to reboot the server now ... :) |
| 10:32.16 | zetheroo | and have br0 working on the flipside |
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| 10:33.47 | simonlnu | imdea: i use user,user=useridnumber,otheroptions |
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| 10:36.26 | zetheroo | thewanderer1: rebooted and the bridge is still working! Thanks alot! |
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| 10:41.17 | imdea | simonlnu, as far as I read in the mount manual page the official option is "user, uid=X,gid=X" but it doesn't work |
| 10:42.11 | format_c | imdea: you have to skip the Space. |
| 10:42.49 | boudiccas | pclov3r, yes, wheezy is pretty stable, but you have to expect the odd quirk whilst they iron out the wrinkles. it may still break on you, just to warn you |
| 10:42.58 | imdea | format_c, I already did it, and still does not work. |
| 10:43.26 | imdea | format_c, this is the line: defaults,noauto,user,uid=10022,gid=10012,dmask=0002,fmask=0003 |
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| 10:45.16 | format_c | imdea: sory i missend the whois line |
| 10:45.33 | imdea | format_c, the whois line? |
| 10:45.40 | format_c | S/whois/whole/ |
| 10:46.01 | format_c | Shitty correction in a diff lang |
| 10:46.21 | imdea | format_c, I don't understand what could be wrong, it is simply not working |
| 10:46.28 | format_c | Need to find Out how to Turn Off |
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| 10:47.41 | format_c | imdea: i Even have nö ideas which fs, so just Paste |
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| 10:48.59 | imdea | format_c, /dev/sdd1 /home/jon/external_hd ntfs-3g defaults,auto,users,uid=10022,gid=10012,dmask=0002,fmask=0003 0 0 |
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| 10:50.16 | format_c | s/users/user/ |
| 10:50.32 | imdea | format_c, I've tried both, and none of them work |
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| 10:50.50 | format_c | What says dmesg? |
| 10:51.15 | format_c | dmesg | tail of course |
| 10:52.17 | format_c | mount -a ; dmesg | tail |
| 10:52.43 | imdea | $ mount -a |
| 10:52.43 | imdea | mount: only root can do that |
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| 10:53.04 | format_c | Of course |
| 10:53.40 | imdea | of course no, this is supposed to work as a non-root user |
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| 10:55.43 | obiwahn | hi - is there some extesion for debian gnome to use the top bar for all applications like it is done in macs? |
| 10:56.10 | obiwahn | http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/wiki/Installation this seems to be a bit out of date |
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| 11:00.14 | helena | okay |
| 11:00.27 | helena | I have a problem starting LibreOffice |
| 11:00.37 | helena | it just outputs ERROR 4 forking process |
| 11:00.42 | helena | or something like that |
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| 11:00.50 | helena | I googled it but nothing on google at all |
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| 11:05.29 | gury | I am having a lot of trouble with password-gorilla. It sometimes saves passwords correctly, sometimes false. When creating a database with the version in squeeze, it doesn't work when using that database with the version in wheezy |
| 11:07.29 | helena | gury |
| 11:07.44 | gury | helena |
| 11:07.57 | helena | heyy :3 |
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| 11:23.36 | homes | would people be happy with using krb5 over the internet, without any other security such as a VPN? |
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| 11:28.57 | joltcan | homes: just for auth you should be fine, but if you are using some application that has been authenticated I guess you want a VPN for that (if the app itself isn't secure) |
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| 11:29.44 | joltcan | homes: People tend to mix up security for authentication and security for data transmission |
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| 11:33.55 | homes | aye, was thinking with ssh, |
| 11:35.07 | homes | just learning about kerberos, old protocol, many of them are a horrible idea to run over the internet [like NFS], though krb seems to have been designed from the start a bit more sensibly |
| 11:35.13 | joltcan | Well, most universites uses it without a VPN, so I think you are fine |
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| 11:35.54 | homes | nods |
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| 11:36.21 | joltcan | because then you can use kerb for authing your VPN as well :) |
| 11:36.51 | thewanderer1 | you could run NFSv4 with kerberos over a WAN securely... although the performance would be miserable :P |
| 11:36.54 | homes | is there anything like krb that i should also look at? the purely symmetric cipher solution of krb seems a bit backwards, all things considered |
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| 11:38.46 | thewanderer1 | if you want authentication only, look at Secure Password Protocol - not much software exists for it, though |
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| 11:43.44 | homes | nods |
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| 12:03.01 | Devastator | ,versions samba4 |
| 12:03.03 | judd | Package: samba4 on i386 -- sid: 4.0.0~beta2+dfsg1-3; wheezy: 4.0.0~beta2+dfsg1-3; experimental: 4.0.0~rc3+dfsg1-1 |
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| 12:04.10 | v4nelle | guys i have installed p7zip-full but i cant unzip file with right click on file manager on gnome-shell!must i install something else? |
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| 12:12.32 | gury | v4nelle: p7zip is a command like tool. What graphical interface are you using? |
| 12:12.43 | gury | v4nelle: *command line |
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| 12:13.56 | gury | v4nelle: don't mind my question; whatever GUI you are using, I would recommend xarchiver if you want a graphical tool for compression |
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| 12:15.27 | v4nelle | thanks gury .i will try it |
| 12:16.24 | gury | v4nelle: ah, you seem to use gnome. file-roller should also work |
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| 12:19.20 | Eagleman | In what format do i add a dns entry to look at the ownt server in /etc/hosts? I want hgg-fs to point to the local server |
| 12:20.42 | Pici | Eagleman: 127.0.0.1 hgg-fs ? |
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| 12:23.43 | Eagleman | 127.0.0.1 hgg-fs hgg-fs still not working |
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| 12:25.07 | Eagleman | A few of our custom written plugins are looking for: http://hgg-fs/software/wiki/MileStone/changelog.xml But since our real hgg-fs server is in production and i need to test the plugins, i have to find a way to let the test machine look for hgg-fs at his own machine |
| 12:25.48 | format_c | ncftp seems to lack Ipv6 support in squeeze. |
| 12:25.52 | Eagleman | also dig hgg-fs isnt showing any answering sections |
| 12:25.52 | format_c | at all |
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| 12:26.20 | thewanderer1 | Eagleman, you already have a 127.0.0.1 line in hosts, don't you? you can't have duplicate lines... |
| 12:26.25 | format_c | ,versions ncftp |
| 12:26.27 | judd | Package: ncftp on i386 -- lenny: 2:3.2.1-1; squeeze: 2:3.2.4-1; sid: 2:3.2.5-1.1; wheezy: 2:3.2.5-1.1 |
| 12:26.36 | Eagleman | Yes i do |
| 12:27.12 | thewanderer1 | well, integrate! |
| 12:27.41 | format_c | the homepage offers nothing regarding Ipv6 |
| 12:28.04 | Eagleman | 127.0.0.1 localhost hgg-fs |
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| 12:28.24 | Eagleman | So 127.0.0.1 localhost,hgg-fs hgg-fs ? |
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| 12:30.59 | Eagleman | still not working even if i remove localhost and replace it with hgg-fs |
| 12:31.07 | Eagleman | dig resolves nothing |
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| 12:34.32 | thomaschaaf | Hey I am trying to build the nodejs package from here: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/nodejs.git but there seems to be no activity. I am trying to build the package with debuild and then I get all sorts of unmet dependencies: Unmet build dependencies: cdbs dh-buildinfo gyp libv8-dev (>= 3.11) libev-dev (>= 1:4.11) libc-ares-dev (>= 1.7.5) pkg-config the thing is those packages aren't even in sid. Should I instal |
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| 12:34.41 | homes | Eagleman: you need something that uses /etc/nsswitch.conf, don't think dig does |
| 12:34.46 | thomaschaaf | Will those only be build depencies or also running dependencies? |
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| 12:38.37 | Eagleman | It is trying to ask another server while it shoud look in the file first |
| 12:39.19 | thomaschaaf | Eagleman: is that directed at me? |
| 12:39.32 | Eagleman | no |
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| 12:40.17 | Shadow`_ | when using grep -irn |
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| 12:40.36 | Shadow`_ | can i exclude it looking in a dir of the dir im looking in? |
| 12:41.40 | themill | Eagleman: dig uses configured nameservers directly. Most applications use libc's resolver that uses /etc/hosts too. "getent hosts foobar" uses libc. |
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| 12:43.01 | Eagleman | Not sure what apache does |
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| 12:43.31 | Eagleman | http://hgg-fs/software/wiki/MileStone/changelog.xml still isnt showing info thats on the server itself |
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| 12:50.41 | Eagleman | ping to hgg-fs ping to localhost |
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| 12:50.59 | Eagleman | but the changelog file is being acces from remote |
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| 13:10.34 | zmitya | hi Gents |
| 13:10.46 | zmitya | we do release our app in deb packages |
| 13:11.09 | zmitya | lets say we have a version: 1.0.0-rc10 |
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| 13:11.25 | zmitya | the live release should be "1.0.0" only |
| 13:11.52 | zmitya | what is the best practice to create a version which is "bigger than" the rc package ? |
| 13:12.06 | zmitya | I hope you guys can understand what I mean :) |
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| 13:12.48 | zmitya | so usually we put the rc packages on the QA environment, but after we have the live packages, we would like to install them on the QA as well |
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| 13:13.41 | alfadir | zmitya: not a debian dev myself but does this help ? : http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Version |
| 13:14.28 | zmitya | alfadir: well, [epoch:] would help right ? |
| 13:14.51 | somiaj | zmitya: you could use an epoch, or you could name your rc versions differntly like 0.9.9-rc10 |
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| 13:15.35 | zmitya | I believe epoch is the way forward in our case !! |
| 13:15.37 | zmitya | thanks guys !! |
| 13:15.52 | somiaj | be careful with epoch's, you can't really go back once you start |
| 13:16.16 | somiaj | ahh |
| 13:16.22 | somiaj | use 1.0.0~rc1 |
| 13:16.38 | somiaj | the ~ means less than it seems, while - means bigger than when appending versions |
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| 13:17.01 | zmitya | somiaj: oh, great, I'll consider ~ as well !! |
| 13:17.02 | zmitya | thanks |
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| 13:18.55 | alfadir | zmitya: maybe check #debian-mentors IRC channel on irc.debian.org |
| 13:19.00 | alfadir | zmitya: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentorsFaq |
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| 13:21.43 | zmitya | great, thanks guys for the good answers, links !! |
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| 13:22.18 | alfadir | zmitya: what kind of app are you making ? |
| 13:22.49 | zmitya | alfadir: well, that is within the company, we write voip apps |
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| 13:23.44 | zmitya | we issue the releases sysadmins installs them.. the current procedure is a bit messy, I would like to get in in a better shape basically.. |
| 13:23.47 | alfadir | zmitya: cool, good luck with it, good to see that debian pagages gets done :) |
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| 13:24.20 | zmitya | alfadir: :) |
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| 13:27.41 | useless-eater | anyone knows what the live.debian repositories are? |
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| 13:29.30 | somiaj | useless-eater: you mean live.debian.net? |
| 13:29.47 | useless-eater | yea :) |
| 13:30.06 | somiaj | they are repositories afiak, they are tools to make a live cd/usb version of debian |
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| 13:30.10 | useless-eater | I get 404 error, probably just using the wrong path |
| 13:30.13 | somiaj | they also include some premade images |
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| 13:30.47 | somiaj | but afiak they are not repos that you can add to your sources.list |
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| 13:31.52 | useless-eater | oh, found a old howto where one added this to the sources.list, but failed on my computer. maybe things have changed then :) |
| 13:32.27 | somiaj | what did they add to their sources.list? |
| 13:33.31 | somiaj | I guess they do have a small repo there that includes the live-tools. What was the sources.list line you added |
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| 13:54.25 | gr33n7007h | Hey, how do you put /sbin/ into your path in debian. I want to be able to do ifconfig -a instead of /sbin/ifconfig -a ? |
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| 13:55.04 | somiaj | gr33n7007h: there are many ways, but you can modify the PATH variable in $HOME/.bashrc if you use bash |
| 13:55.22 | somiaj | usually you shouldn't have /sbin in a non root users PATH which is why it is not there by default |
| 13:56.05 | thewanderer1 | hmm, it seems that /etc/init.d/cgconfig has disappeared in wheezy... how does one set their cgroups up now? |
| 13:56.18 | gr33n7007h | Ah, ok let my try .bashrc thanks somiaj |
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| 13:56.31 | themill | gr33n7007h: also, try "ip a" instead. it's less typing... |
| 13:56.55 | gr33n7007h | themill, thanks bro |
| 13:58.32 | somiaj | thewanderer1: has that info been moved to /etc/default (just a guess) |
| 13:58.53 | thewanderer1 | uh no... just read the changelog - apparently, that functionality is gone :O |
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| 14:05.40 | esaym153 | anyone have issues with iceweasel hanging after shutdown on a fresh debian stable install? |
| 14:06.27 | esaym153 | installed the latest iceweasel from the mozilla debian project (version 16) and it still does the same |
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| 14:08.20 | thewanderer1 | works for me... are you running flash? |
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| 14:18.45 | esaym153 | thewanderer1: no, but now I am (thought installing flash might fix the lock-ups...) |
| 14:19.08 | esaym153 | its on a virtual machine, wondering if it might be gfx related |
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| 14:21.28 | thewanderer1 | it very well could |
| 14:21.43 | thewanderer1 | and no, flash will not improve anything... it will make it crawl |
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| 14:27.26 | gnarface | so here's a weird question but does anyone happen to know what video/audio codecs the flv container format that the flash player in the Nintendo Wii internet browser plays supports? |
| 14:27.39 | Eagleman | >Some clients unfortunately try to do plaintext authentication without STARTTLS So i can see the passwords in wireshark being sent? |
| 14:28.02 | esaym153 | thewanderer1: flash usually does bad things, but I figured that I would try and see... |
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| 14:29.13 | thewanderer1 | for reference, Iceweasel has never quite worked for me with virtualized graphics |
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| 14:29.36 | thewanderer1 | on KVM, it always has some kind of problems... works fine over XDMCP with a local, real display though |
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| 14:31.17 | vacuous | hi, I've installed debian with awesome wm, gdm, and open-vm-tools. I'm trying to run "xrandr -s 1280x768" on boot; I'm new to linux |
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| 14:31.22 | vacuous | what's the best way to do this? |
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| 14:33.17 | ectospasm | vacuous: I don't know what the appropriate file for Awesome is, but it's probably in .xsession |
| 14:33.24 | reuf | how can i shorten display name of files on my desktop - to limit the number of characters displayed? |
| 14:33.42 | jhutchins_wk | vacuous: The xrandr gui should offer to restore settings on startup. |
| 14:33.58 | ectospasm | reuf: in terminal, GUI file browser...? |
| 14:33.59 | vacuous | how do I open the xrandr gui? |
| 14:34.03 | vacuous | I've only done it by commands so far |
| 14:34.07 | reuf | GUI Desktop |
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| 14:34.22 | ectospasm | reuf: need more input: what DM/DE are you using? |
| 14:34.22 | reuf | ectospasm: GUI desktop |
| 14:34.33 | reuf | nautilus |
| 14:34.38 | reuf | ectospasm: nautilus |
| 14:34.39 | vacuous | gui command not found |
| 14:34.57 | ectospasm | reuf: can't you just shorten the width of the filename column? |
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| 14:35.09 | ectospasm | ...if you're looking at the details view? |
| 14:35.54 | reuf | yes i can - im talking about desktop where my icons are, where launcher is etc |
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| 14:37.15 | ectospasm | reuf: you use icons on a desktop? Pfft! How 1997... |
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| 14:37.22 | nkuttler | reuf: just curious... but why don't you simply rename the files? |
| 14:37.49 | reuf | ectospasm: yea, i like to have main icons on desktop |
| 14:38.01 | ectospasm | reuf: are you looking for a Linux analog to Windows shortening filenames like file~1.txt, etc.? |
| 14:38.12 | reuf | nkuttler: i can rename them but i also like when my file name has full meaningful name |
| 14:38.15 | ectospasm | reuf: are these files, or launchers? |
| 14:38.35 | nkuttler | reuf: what would be the use of a meaningful name if you don't display it? |
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| 14:38.58 | ectospasm | reuf: if it's a launcher, you should just rename the .desktop (or whatever kind of shortcut it is) |
| 14:39.03 | ectospasm | change the label to something short |
| 14:39.10 | reuf | ectospasm: these are files, lets say i have a file titled the-very-long-named-file.txt, and i want to have display name the-very-long...txt, when i f2 to edit it - i get the full name to edit |
| 14:39.11 | vacuous | now it's saying reboot command not found |
| 14:39.13 | nkuttler | indeed |
| 14:39.17 | vacuous | and id idn't even do anything lol |
| 14:39.30 | nkuttler | vacuous: it? /sbin not in $PATH? |
| 14:39.37 | vacuous | hm? |
| 14:39.40 | reuf | if any of you is using nautilus and you type gvfs-info /path/to/anything you will get display-name, edit-name, copy-name |
| 14:39.42 | reuf | parameters |
| 14:39.45 | reuf | which can be changed |
| 14:39.52 | vacuous | nkuttler, I'm new to linux |
| 14:39.55 | vacuous | haven't a clue what that means |
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| 14:40.03 | nkuttler | !tell vacuous about path |
| 14:40.09 | ectospasm | reuf: yeah, you'd have to make a symlink that points to the file in question, and have the symlink be shorter |
| 14:40.18 | ectospasm | ...shorter in filename |
| 14:40.18 | nkuttler | vacuous: fwiw, just use /sbin/reboot |
| 14:40.41 | vacuous | thanks |
| 14:40.50 | nkuttler | reuf: or try a gnome-specific support forum, maybe somebody would know there |
| 14:42.14 | folivora | Gday, could someone point since it seems that I don't understand. I am running proftpd-server, and I need that newly created files have 775 permissions, what is the correct Umask settings to get this result. |
| 14:42.31 | reuf | ectospasm: thanks, nkuttler: thanks |
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| 14:42.45 | somiaj | folivora: 002 |
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| 14:42.58 | folivora | Umask 002 ? |
| 14:43.09 | somiaj | folivora: yes that will be the umask needed to default to 775 permissions |
| 14:43.13 | ectospasm | reuf: the symlink thing should work... if they're launchers, relabeling them should work...etc... |
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| 14:43.50 | reuf | ectospasm: im on it - thanks one more time |
| 14:43.58 | folivora | somiaj: confusing, I've been reading man but still I couldnt figure out |
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| 14:44.24 | somiaj | folivora: it is the oposite, so 7 ~ 0, 5 ~ 2, 6 ~ 1, etc |
| 14:44.31 | somiaj | kind athink of permisions = 777 - mask |
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| 14:45.19 | folivora | somiaj: very much thank you, still can't figure why it HAS to be oposite =) |
| 14:45.43 | somiaj | I foreget the reasoning behind using a mask over direct permissions. |
| 14:45.46 | somiaj | but it is common. |
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| 14:46.22 | vacuous | !tell vacuous about path |
| 14:46.33 | somiaj | vacuous: /msg dpkg path (or any other factoid) |
| 14:46.52 | vacuous | thanks |
| 14:47.03 | vacuous | I'm so confused :( |
| 14:47.20 | vacuous | why did it suddenly break itself? |
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| 14:47.46 | nkuttler | vacuous: try to avoid the word "it" when asking for help |
| 14:48.00 | vacuous | I've already specified the problem |
| 14:48.06 | vacuous | scroll up |
| 14:48.29 | nkuttler | my up key is broken |
| 14:48.49 | vacuous | okay, one moment |
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| 14:49.00 | vacuous | hi, I've installed debian with awesome wm, gdm, and open-vm-tools. I'm trying to run "xrandr -s 1280x768" on boot; I'm new to linux |
| 14:49.05 | somiaj | vacuous: what does echo $PATH give you |
| 14:49.05 | vacuous | what is the best way to do this? |
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| 14:49.22 | vacuous | following that, I typed "xrandr gui' as suggested |
| 14:49.29 | somiaj | running xrandr on boot won't make much sense because you need xorg running |
| 14:49.30 | nkuttler | isn't xrandr something you want to run inside x? |
| 14:49.33 | vacuous | it did nothing, then I rebooted and the vm says command not found |
| 14:49.43 | vacuous | xorg runs fine |
| 14:49.50 | vacuous | I want xrandr to change resolution |
| 14:49.56 | nkuttler | vacuous: which command not found? xrandr? |
| 14:50.00 | somiaj | also why not just make an xorg.conf file so you start with a specified resolution instead of modifing it once xorg is running |
| 14:50.01 | vacuous | xrandr does change resolution just fine, that command works |
| 14:50.05 | vacuous | I just want to run that command on boot |
| 14:50.11 | vacuous | maaaaaaaaan |
| 14:50.15 | vacuous | you don't let me finish explaining |
| 14:50.20 | vacuous | nevermind |
| 14:50.26 | nkuttler | ok |
| 14:50.29 | somiaj | you cannot run it at boot since at boot you do not have xorg running, you have to run it after xorg is done running. So you need to include it in the startup scripts of your wm/desktop |
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| 14:50.40 | vacuous | I have xorg running |
| 14:50.52 | vacuous | oh |
| 14:50.55 | vacuous | I misunderstood |
| 14:51.08 | somiaj | but at boot you do not. your display manager is one of the last things to run during the boot process |
| 14:51.11 | vacuous | So what would be the best way to do that? and why has "reboot" suddenly broken? |
| 14:51.16 | vacuous | I see yeah |
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| 14:51.28 | somiaj | to me the best way would be write an xorg.conf file that sets the resolution correclty |
| 14:51.49 | somiaj | the second best way will be to include that command in the startup options/script of your wm/desktop |
| 14:51.51 | vacuous | well first I want to fix this problem that reboot says command not found |
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| 14:51.54 | vacuous | then I'll get back onto that |
| 14:52.02 | vacuous | I see |
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| 14:52.05 | somiaj | reboot is a system tool, so it is not in the path of most users |
| 14:52.34 | somiaj | so /sbin is not in the $PATH of your normal user since in most cases that user won't have premissions to reboot the machine anyways |
| 14:52.37 | vacuous | ah I see, yeah it works as root--my bad |
| 14:52.41 | yeehi | hello - i created a live usb with 1GB allowed for storage - now i need to increase the storage allowed - how do I do that? I am using the live usb now... |
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| 14:53.01 | vacuous | where would I put the xorg.conf file? |
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| 14:53.26 | somiaj | vacuous: /etc/X11/xorg.conf (or /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/foo if you want to split it up into snippits) |
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| 14:54.04 | vacuous | and one other question (sorry to be a pain), should I nano that as root or my user? |
| 14:54.16 | somiaj | you will want to do that as root |
| 14:54.21 | somiaj | (or with sudo) |
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| 14:54.48 | vacuous | thanks, and those files don't exist yet |
| 14:55.04 | vacuous | so I'll just google for someones xorg.conf? |
| 14:55.13 | somiaj | yea default is an empty or no file |
| 14:55.22 | somiaj | you can read the manpage on xorg.conf as well for syntax |
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| 14:55.37 | somiaj | you can also check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see why your xorg is using the resolution it picks at startup |
| 14:56.36 | vacuous | thanks |
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| 14:57.59 | bigmac1 | hello, i am stuck at 640x480 resolution, can someone please help me? |
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| 14:59.02 | engla | bigmac1: what kind of graphics card do you have and does xrandr recognize other resolutions |
| 14:59.41 | bigmac1 | it's an ati radeon 6450 and i don't know what xrandr is, but when i went to system->pref->monitors this is the only resolution available |
| 14:59.45 | gnarface | suspecting monitor auto-detection fail |
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| 15:01.08 | engla | bigmac1: which debian release are you using? |
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| 15:01.37 | bigmac1 | idk, i just downloaded the cd image, burned it, and here i am |
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| 15:01.47 | bigmac1 | because fedora didnt work and other distros dont fit on cds anymore |
| 15:02.52 | gnarface | lsb_release -a |
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| 15:03.37 | SharkMuttleworth | bigmac1: That's a fairly new graphics card, maybe the auto-detection failed |
| 15:03.40 | engla | bigmac1: the stable release (squeeze) might have too old kernel for your hardware |
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| 15:04.11 | SharkMuttleworth | bigmac1: Out of interest, did you report the bug to Fedora? |
| 15:05.29 | bigmac1 | Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 (squeeze) -- and as far as i know it's not a bug per se, i just don't know how to do anything other than apt-get installing the 3 things the wiki said to try, which didnt help |
| 15:06.28 | vacuous | a new problem, the "edit config" button with awesome no longer works |
| 15:07.33 | bigmac1 | can anyone recommend an idiot proof distro that still fits on a cd? |
| 15:08.43 | bigmac1 | like maybe a distro they'd give to retards or people with learning disabilities, who have radeon 6450s in their computers |
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| 15:08.56 | bigmac1 | but who can't burn dvds and dont have a thumb drive |
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| 15:09.07 | gnarface | !6450 |
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| 15:09.12 | gnarface | !radeon |
| 15:09.13 | dpkg | Radeon is a brand of graphic processing units by AMD/ATI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon). The radeon open source display driver is packaged for Debian as xserver-xorg-video-radeon, optionally install libgl1-mesa-dri for 3D acceleration. Also ask me about <radeon firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo http://x.org/wiki/radeon #radeon on irc.freenode.net. For the proprietary driver, see <fglrx>. |
| 15:09.17 | gnarface | !catalyst |
| 15:09.17 | dpkg | well, catalyst is those big switches that Cisco makes. They cause me to drool on the spot. For the AMD/ATI display driver, ask me about <fglrx>. |
| 15:09.20 | SharkMuttleworth | bigmac1: My first suggestion would be Fedora, but since that didn't work, Xubuntu is ok |
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| 15:09.59 | bigmac1 | the only reason fedora didn't "work" is that i couldn't get sound to work through hdmi, and when i "fixed" that, the resolution messed up, and when i fixed THAT, all the gray colors had a pinkish hue |
| 15:10.04 | SharkMuttleworth | bigmac1: Or you could use Debian unstable, which would support your card |
| 15:10.36 | SharkMuttleworth | bigmac1: Or testing, if you're less brave |
| 15:10.54 | engla | or the kernel from squeeze-backports if you want to try |
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| 15:11.40 | bigmac1 | i really liked the look of fedora, it's a shame it had to be such a POS |
| 15:11.49 | ratcheer | bigmac1: I had a pinkish hue with my ATI 6770 when I switched the driver to letting the monitor determine the color balance. I could not achieve a proper color balance. I had to switch back to driver control. |
| 15:12.08 | SharkMuttleworth | I wouldn't say Fedora is a POS, it's fairly cutting-edge so you get the odd breakage |
| 15:12.16 | bigmac1 | well the fact that i had zero problems with color or resolution until i enabled hdmi audio |
| 15:12.24 | SharkMuttleworth | HDMI is not a nice standard to implement |
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| 15:13.56 | bigmac1 | i also tried to install archlinux but that was like someone playing a cruel joke on me, the cd just boots into a shell |
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| 15:14.20 | bigmac1 | sorry i'm not a 3rd degree compsci major |
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| 15:14.46 | bigmac1 | so xubuntu is downloading now, let's hope this one works, i'm running out of distros to try |
| 15:15.22 | dkr | looks aren't really distro specific, you can use any gui with any distro |
| 15:15.22 | SharkMuttleworth | Have you tried LFS? |
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| 15:16.16 | SharkMuttleworth | Unity would probably be quite tricky to get running on other distributions, given how much of the software stack is forked specifically for Ubuntu |
| 15:16.53 | damaxus | bigmac1: I agree with SharkMuttleworth, running testing/wheezy will probably be less of a hassle for you on new hardware |
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| 15:17.03 | bigmac1 | dkr: again i'm not a 3rd degree linux master, i have to go with whatever is set up by default |
| 15:17.34 | bigmac1 | i don't know what lfs is |
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| 15:17.56 | jhutchins_wk | bigmac1: Linux from Scratch |
| 15:18.19 | bigmac1 | sounds like archlinux, no thank you |
| 15:18.20 | damaxus | bigmac1: Sabayon is pretty slick too, and has a very modern kernel. |
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| 15:18.37 | vacuous | after editing xorg.conf I'm getting the error no screens found |
| 15:18.46 | bigmac1 | honestly at this point i don't care what it looks like or what it does, as long as i get the proper resolution and audio over hdmi, which no distro that fits on a cd has been able to provide so far |
| 15:18.49 | vacuous | perhaps I've put the wrong name of a screen? how would I get that info |
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| 15:19.17 | damaxus | bigmac1: why does it need to fit on a CD? |
| 15:19.22 | dkr | damaxus: "a very modern kernel"? what? you mean a higher version number? |
| 15:19.31 | jhutchins_wk | vacuous: What are you using xorg.conf for? |
| 15:19.43 | vacuous | set resolution |
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| 15:20.44 | ratcheer | bigmac1: I think Xubuntu will be a very good distro for you to try. |
| 15:20.45 | jhutchins_wk | vacuous: There are other ways to do that. You can look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if you can figure out what's wrong, but your screenmod lines probably don't match any of the resolutions your card is capable of. |
| 15:21.00 | damaxus | dkr: yeah, 3.5 with a bunch of other fun stuff already rolled in like ZFS |
| 15:21.11 | LoRez | can one not modify debconf data manually by sourcing /usr/share/debconf/confmodule? it seems to not be sourceable on a command line |
| 15:21.17 | jhutchins_wk | vacuous: How did you get the xorg.conf that was working before you made the changes? |
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| 15:21.26 | vacuous | there wasn't one |
| 15:21.29 | bigmac1_ | awesome, browser froze |
| 15:21.39 | vacuous | nano /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 15:21.43 | vacuous | I type that? |
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| 15:22.08 | damaxus | cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less |
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| 15:22.17 | damaxus | or less /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 15:22.36 | SharkMuttleworth | Don't use nano, use emacs |
| 15:22.40 | bigmac1_ | my isp is so awesome that i can't even use an irc client, i have to use web-based irc |
| 15:22.43 | vacuous | error passing config file |
| 15:22.44 | jhutchins_wk | vacuous: Where did you get the configuration from? Did you just make it up? Was it an auto-generated or manually generated file? Are you working from some documentation? |
| 15:23.00 | damaxus | don't edit your logs :) |
| 15:23.12 | vacuous | ubuntu docs |
| 15:23.21 | SharkMuttleworth | bigmac1_: Your ISP seriously blocks IRC traffic? Never heard of that |
| 15:23.35 | jhutchins_wk | vacuous: Are you running ubuntu? |
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| 15:23.38 | vacuous | nope |
| 15:23.43 | vacuous | but it's based on debian |
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| 15:24.02 | jhutchins_wk | vacuous: We know, but it's not debian, and that's exactly the kind of thing that can be different. |
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| 15:24.49 | jhutchins_wk | vacuous: I would suggest that you remove the file you made. You can look into using xrandr to set your resolution, or you can start with an xorg.conf generated by X --configure and CAREFULLY edit that for what you want. |
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| 15:25.20 | bigmac1_ | SharkMuttleworth: it's gotta be that, anytime i try to launch irc client, in any os, i get weird freaky timeouts and other freakish stuff |
| 15:25.22 | vacuous | I originally suggested xrandr |
| 15:25.26 | vacuous | I was told not to use it |
| 15:25.29 | bigmac1_ | i suppose it could be my router but it's easier to blame my isp |
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| 15:26.56 | jhutchins_wk | bigmac1_: Did you have a Debian support question? |
| 15:27.07 | Pnoexz | bigmac1_: irc is a very controversial protocol, in their eyes, its mostly used for doing bad things, like controlling a botnet.. its not unheard of ISPs blocking irc |
| 15:27.24 | bigmac1_ | calm down tough guy i was just leaving, debian doesnt like my video card |
| 15:27.30 | bigmac1_ | thanks for all your help those who helped |
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| 16:09.29 | apm1 | the i7 doesn't have a GPU other than the on die ironlake , but the C2D has an onboard nvidia gpu in it , is that the cause |
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| 16:10.20 | apm1 | an input is very much appreciated :) |
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| 16:12.42 | thewanderer1 | apm1, Core 2 Duo is much less efficient, and you also have to account for old thermal paste... overall, you should make an attempt to cool it down - you can go to 30°C with a good paste |
| 16:13.47 | apm1 | thewanderer1, it's a macbookpro , you expect me to disassemble a soldered processor on an apple machine ? |
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| 16:14.15 | thewanderer1 | aha, laptop... yeah, 60°C sounds like a core 2 duo frying in a closed space |
| 16:14.17 | gabesubdo | "it's a macbookpro" that could be a factor :p |
| 16:15.00 | apm1 | frying ? or that is how a mobile processor is supposed to run ? |
| 16:15.04 | gabesubdo | power management isn't the greatest for linux running on apple hardware |
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| 16:15.34 | thewanderer1 | that, and another thing is, laptop CPUs like to heat up quite a bit |
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| 16:16.36 | apm1 | and for the i7 is that temperature right ? it's a thinkpad |
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| 16:17.38 | thewanderer1 | i7 is a major step forward from Core 2, they always run much cooler no matter if i3, i5 or i7 (unless under high load) |
| 16:18.16 | apm1 | the i7 runs @ 45-56'c that is fine ? |
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| 16:18.33 | thewanderer1 | yes, for a laptop CPU |
| 16:18.39 | thewanderer1 | also, ThinkPad cooling > Macbook cooling :P |
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| 16:19.09 | apm1 | ok , so you guys suggest getting a cooling pad for the mac ? |
| 16:19.42 | gabesubdo | cooling pads are silly, there's nothing inherently warm with that temperature, it's just warm |
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| 16:20.15 | bluesm | JPT: So what should return function before -exec ? To could use {} |
| 16:20.24 | thewanderer1 | for a desktop, temps like that would be worrying... a laptop is just fine with them though |
| 16:20.25 | gabesubdo | you can start freaking out when it gets over 90 degrees and the fan hasn't turned into a hairdryer |
| 16:21.18 | bluesm | what is the separator, say for "find" command that {} after -exec works ? |
| 16:21.24 | apm1 | ok , thanks for helping me out of my paranoia guys :) |
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| 16:21.36 | bluesm | "/n" ? |
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| 16:22.26 | gabesubdo | bluesm: not sure what you're asking, but an example is: find . -name \*.bak -exec rm {} \; |
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| 16:23.53 | gabesubdo | {} gets replaced with the filename and ; is the end of the command that gets run (has to be escaped with \ so bash doesn't eat it) |
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| 16:27.46 | apm1 | anyone using nvidia proprietary drivers on wheezy ? |
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| 16:33.50 | bluesm | gabesubdo: Ok. But how this function do it one by one ? |
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| 16:34.04 | bluesm | gabesubdo: Or maybe -exec is particular only for "find command" ? |
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| 16:35.11 | gabesubdo | -exec is an option for find |
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| 16:36.43 | gabesubdo | in that example, every time it finds something in . that matches the condition "name *.bak", it takes "rm {}" and replaces {} with the filename and runs that |
| 16:37.17 | bluesm | gabesubdo: Only for "find" ? And is {} notation for placeholder is universal ? At least in bash ? |
| 16:37.24 | gabesubdo | just find |
| 16:37.38 | gabesubdo | find is the only command I've seen that uses that notation |
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| 16:38.15 | gabesubdo | nothing find does relies on bash - that's why you have to escape the * in *.bak, so find can do the wildcard work itself |
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| 16:41.23 | bluesm | gabesubdo: What do you mean " to escape the * in *.bak, so find can do the wildcard work itself" ? |
| 16:41.45 | gabesubdo | if you type a command with *.bak in it, let's say ls *.bak |
| 16:41.56 | bluesm | You mean that command find itself initiate (for example) cp command, every time they find something ? |
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| 16:42.14 | gabesubdo | bash sees the * and it knows that's a wildcard, and it turns that wildcard into a list of things that match |
| 16:42.21 | gabesubdo | e.g. ls file.bak foo.bak bar.bak |
| 16:42.48 | gabesubdo | if you escape it by writing ls \*.bak, bash doesn't interpret it as a wildcard and just passes it directly to ls. |
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| 16:43.17 | gabesubdo | this will fail because ls doesn't know how to work with wildcards. but find does. |
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| 16:44.02 | gabesubdo | so when you're using find's -name option, you always want to make find do the wildcard work instead of bash |
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| 16:46.25 | gabesubdo | just noticed the second part - yes, find executes cp every time it finds something |
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| 16:50.36 | bluesm | gabesubdo: So "escaping" ==> It is passed to the find command, NO escaped ==> It is interpreted by bash. ? |
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| 16:51.15 | damaxus | yes |
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| 16:51.43 | damaxus | you enter the command into the shell.. the shell interprets it and then does whatever with it |
| 16:51.48 | damaxus | so you escape it from the shell |
| 16:52.08 | bluesm | gabesubdo , damaxus : Thank you very very much! |
| 16:52.12 | damaxus | if you wanted to find a file with a * in the name you'd have to escape twice |
| 16:52.19 | damaxus | so find didn't treat it as a wildcard |
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| 16:53.00 | damaxus | eg: touch \*; find . -name \\* |
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| 16:53.08 | damaxus | where find . -name \* would list all files |
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| 16:53.33 | damaxus | but don't put *'s in filenames ;) |
| 16:53.47 | ska | When I try to build Xen from backports sources http://osdir.com/ml/xen-users/2011-04/msg00029.html, I get this error: E: Build-Depends dependency for xen cannot be satisfied because no available versions of package dpkg-dev can satisfy version requirements |
| 16:54.23 | bluesm | damaxus: Yeah. I get that. Escaped from bash and then from find command interpreter :) |
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| 16:56.15 | bluesm | damaxus: Thanks :)) |
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| 16:57.48 | ska | How do I find out what version of dpkg-dev it wants? |
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| 17:00.22 | damaxus | ska: what command did you run when it generated the error? |
| 17:00.58 | ska | apt-get build-dep xen |
| 17:01.19 | ska | damaxus: I notice that "aptitude build-dep xen" DOES seem to work |
| 17:01.28 | ska | at least it gives me options to continue. |
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| 17:01.54 | damaxus | ,v dpkg-dev |
| 17:01.55 | judd | Package: dpkg-dev on i386 -- lenny: 1.14.31; lenny-security: 1.14.31; squeeze: 1.15.8.13; squeeze-backports: 1.16.1.2~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.16.8; sid: 1.16.9 |
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| 17:02.08 | damaxus | maybe you could install dpkg-dev specifically from backports first |
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| 17:02.43 | wolf29 | The remote services for nagios. I am getting an error on the nagios server that the plugins here may be missing. http://pastebin.com/pmAnA6PJ they aren't missing but I can't run them locall. What am I missing? The same set-up runs on 20 other servers with no problem. |
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| 17:03.28 | SkAzZ | Hello, with Apache2, can I proxy requests from https://mydomain.com:8094/otherwebsite.com/ to http://otherwebsite.com/administrator ? |
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| 17:04.01 | SkAzZ | It's to make an administrator section of the website HTTPS with mydomain.com's certificate |
| 17:04.17 | SkAzZ | at least, that is my intention... |
| 17:04.20 | ska | damaxus: how can I do that? |
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| 17:05.30 | RxDx | I installed Debian on a Soekris router.. I have to network interfaces (one is connected to the internet, and the other is an AP).. when I run hostapd service to transform my interface into an AP, when a client connect all my system freezes and I need to unplugged and plug it again on the power... I did a SSH and run command "top"to see whats happening while system crashes.. I notice that proccess "ksoftirqd/0" gets high load when someone connects into |
| 17:05.30 | RxDx | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.40 | RxDx | please, anyone knows why is it freezing? |
| 17:05.44 | HeavyMetal | hi does anyone knows any software that can log users' bandwidth per month? |
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| 17:05.53 | ska | damaxus: Version: 1.15.8.13 |
| 17:06.25 | ska | I have backports in my sources.list but not sure if I have the right version of dpkg-dev |
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| 17:06.57 | ska | ok, I see the version numbers |
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| 17:08.07 | damaxus | ska: apt-get install dpkg-dev -t squeeze-backports |
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| 17:08.10 | ska | For some reason my backports sources are not kicking in. |
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| 17:08.20 | damaxus | backports are only used on-demand |
| 17:08.31 | ska | damaxus: ok.. ty.. |
| 17:08.33 | damaxus | unless you reconfigure apt.. which you probably don't want to do |
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| 17:09.18 | ska | damaxus: Thanks. that works now. |
| 17:09.38 | damaxus | np |
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| 17:11.38 | ska | dpkg-dev needs tex ;) |
| 17:11.48 | ska | texlive... |
| 17:12.15 | wolf29 | Some commands work, but not all http://pastebin.com/4m9vYDCE |
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| 17:12.48 | wolf29 | Seems like it might be a permissions issue. |
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| 17:48.47 | Mogget | Hey guys. I just installed Squeeze on my new laptop and its working wonderfully except I can not see how much battery time I have left. |
| 17:48.54 | Mogget | Any ideas how I can get this= |
| 17:49.06 | somiaj | Mogget: what desktop/wm are you using? |
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| 17:49.17 | Mogget | somiaj: lxde |
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| 17:49.42 | somiaj | Mogget: I thought lxde had a battery applet, but that is where you need to look. I would right click on the pannel and see if you can add some applets one of which is battery life |
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| 17:50.00 | somiaj | or search for google for an lxde battery applet and see if it is in debian (I don't use lxde so I don't know about such things) |
| 17:50.08 | Mogget | somiaj: OK, thanks. I'll try that. |
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| 17:51.42 | Mogget | somiaj: You are correct. Just needed to add it to the bar. Sorry for the dumbass quesiton. |
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| 17:52.21 | somiaj | Mogget: you gotta learn somewhere |
| 17:52.28 | somiaj | and asking questions is the way to do it |
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| 17:57.42 | iluminator105 | how can i run two webcams at once |
| 17:57.54 | iluminator105 | on the same pc |
| 17:59.41 | specing | iluminator105: What is the problem? Is it too hard to plug two webcams into two seperate USB ports? are you hand-less (which I doubt due to you typing this here)? |
| 18:00.27 | iluminator105 | well you try it plug two webcam at once try record with both |
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| 18:00.50 | specing | the problem being? |
| 18:01.16 | iluminator105 | same library is called twice cant do it |
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| 18:01.36 | specing | haha, that is the siliest thing I've heard today |
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| 18:01.58 | INT_21h | iluminator105: what error does it fail with? |
| 18:02.08 | iluminator105 | libv4lconvert: warning more framesizes then I can handle! |
| 18:02.16 | INT_21h | O_o |
| 18:02.55 | specing | mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l2:width=640:height=480:device=/dev/video0 -fps 30 |
| 18:02.58 | specing | mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l2:width=640:height=480:device=/dev/video1 -fps 30 |
| 18:02.59 | iluminator105 | i tried cheese and vlc |
| 18:03.01 | specing | works for me. |
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| 18:03.28 | jhutchins_wk | I would expect something like /dev/tv0 and /dev/tv1 |
| 18:03.37 | specing | Why so? |
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| 18:04.01 | jhutchins_wk | Well, that's usually what happens when you have multiples of a device type, like a CD. |
| 18:04.09 | iluminator105 | specing, doesnt work gets green screen |
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| 18:04.34 | jmartinez | hi there |
| 18:04.39 | jmartinez | anybody can give me a hand? |
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| 18:04.50 | jhutchins_wk | iluminator105: There are setups that use several different cameras to stream multiple views. |
| 18:04.59 | jmartinez | i want to create a bridge VLAN for 3 guest VMs, i already have it and every VM can ping each other, but the problem is that any guest CAN NOT have access to Internet |
| 18:05.11 | jmartinez | i mean, what I only need is to have access to WAN from any guest VM |
| 18:05.18 | iluminator105 | jhutchins_wk, how |
| 18:05.29 | specing | jmartinez: add eth0 to the bridge |
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| 18:06.00 | jhutchins_wk | iluminator105: I don't necessarily know how, I just know it's been done. I suggest you start somewhere like v4l or mythtv. |
| 18:06.07 | specing | iluminator105: Why are you using vlc on UNIX? |
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| 18:06.12 | iluminator105 | what if i add another user and log in as him and run it |
| 18:06.17 | specing | Its stupid. |
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| 18:06.34 | jmartinez | specing is already added |
| 18:06.46 | specing | jmartinez: hmmm |
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| 18:06.59 | jhutchins_wk | Ah, I see he did get video0/video1 |
| 18:06.59 | specing | jmartinez: are the MACs different on all ifaces? |
| 18:07.10 | specing | (also from inside the VMs) |
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| 18:07.29 | jmartinez | hmmm |
| 18:07.30 | jhutchins_wk | iluminator105: My guess would be that there's an issue with multiple copies of the player. |
| 18:07.40 | jmartinez | "main" bridge and VLAN bridge have the same MAC |
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| 18:07.57 | jhutchins_wk | jmartinez: You want to firewall the VMs from the internet? |
| 18:08.05 | jhutchins_wk | jmartinez: It might work to just not set a gateway. |
| 18:08.06 | jmartinez | yes jhutchins_wk |
| 18:08.07 | specing | iluminator105: don't use retarded programs that target windows and its users |
| 18:08.29 | jhutchins_wk | jmartinez: Or to set a bogus address as the gateway so it "intercepts" extranet requests. |
| 18:08.49 | jhutchins_wk | specing: Enough. Say you think it's flawed and leave it at that. |
| 18:08.58 | jmartinez | but with that solution i won't have internet access from VMs |
| 18:09.05 | jmartinez | cause of that I did this |
| 18:09.08 | specing | Its more than flawed. It is defective by design. |
| 18:09.13 | jmartinez | and i need that the VMs can see each other |
| 18:09.47 | jhutchins_wk | jmartinez: I do not understand what you're trying to do. I thought you MEANT not to have internet access from the VMs. |
| 18:09.58 | jmartinez | no no |
| 18:10.09 | jhutchins_wk | jmartinez: If they're on the same subnet they should be able to communicate without a gateway. |
| 18:10.11 | specing | jmartinez: since you are using VLANs, did you add the proper eth0.VLAN to the bridge? |
| 18:10.17 | jmartinez | what I want is: VMs can ACCESS to internet, but with the ip of the host |
| 18:10.51 | specing | jmartinez: then you don't want to connect the bridge to eth0 |
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| 18:11.08 | jmartinez | eth0 is my physical nic with internet access |
| 18:11.11 | specing | but write an IPtables script that will forward traffic |
| 18:11.22 | jmartinez | i added a eth0.3 to my bridge |
| 18:11.24 | specing | and masquerade it as your IP |
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| 18:11.39 | jmartinez | eth0.3 is a vlan_raw_device eth0 |
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| 18:11.54 | specing | you are conflicting yourself |
| 18:12.06 | jmartinez | maybe I can explan this better with a paste |
| 18:12.09 | jmartinez | hold a minute please :) |
| 18:12.09 | specing | you can't have layer2 masquerading IP addresses |
| 18:15.09 | iluminator105 | specing the command you gave me tweaked might do it, i am not sure what to tweak on it though, maybe force it to run |
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| 18:16.54 | jmartinez | specing http://paste.laravel.com/8pE |
| 18:17.06 | jmartinez | what I am using now is VLAN3 |
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| 18:17.24 | specing | jmartinez: Am I supposed to see anything? |
| 18:17.34 | iluminator105 | specing, jhutchins_wk keep me posted if you guys find a solution to this, I am counting on you. I am gotta run. Thanks for your help |
| 18:17.36 | jmartinez | I only want that guest VMs there can see each other and can have access to internet through host nic |
| 18:17.50 | bluesm | how to |
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| 18:18.11 | jmartinez | i pasted you the host network config, a brctl show in host and a traceroute in one guest |
| 18:18.21 | bluesm | add new settings to the bash (environment variable) and apply it without restarting the bash ? |
| 18:18.57 | specing | jmartinez: There is no point in having VLANs if you do not control the gateway routers |
| 18:19.09 | specing | or if they don't have them configured |
| 18:19.15 | specing | It just wont work (tm). |
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| 18:19.19 | jmartinez | i think that gateway ar correct |
| 18:19.20 | jmartinez | wait |
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| 18:20.28 | jmartinez | specing this contains a route -n output http://paste.laravel.com/8pI |
| 18:21.28 | somiaj | bluesm: what do you mean by add new settings, you men you added them to your .bashrc? you can just do 'source $HOME/.bashrc' to reread that file to apply the changes |
| 18:21.47 | somiaj | bluesm: or you can just type in the changes into your current bash shell as opposed to rerunning the whole rc file |
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| 18:22.27 | sobersabre | hi. |
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| 18:23.47 | sobersabre | which setup is more maintainable + fault tolerant: 1 hdd for system files, 2 identical hdd's for MD RAID OR just 2 disks for RAID, keepting the system on the RAID. |
| 18:24.06 | sobersabre | let's also put |
| 18:24.25 | sobersabre | LVM into the question: both setups use LVM inside the RAID. |
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| 18:24.56 | ratcheer | sobersabre: What type of RAID? |
| 18:25.04 | sobersabre | mirror. |
| 18:25.05 | somiaj | what sort of fault tolerance are you looking for. Raids are nice for hardware faults on one of the disks, but they don't help with user faults. |
| 18:25.41 | somiaj | i.e. you delete a file, it deletes the file on both disks since all actions are mirroed |
| 18:25.53 | ratcheer | sobersabre: It should be more fault tolerant to have the OS on the RAID device, then. |
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| 18:30.09 | specing | sobersabre: just make regular backups |
| 18:30.14 | sobersabre | somiaj: the problem between the keyboard and the chair is not taken into the account. |
| 18:30.32 | sobersabre | specing: of course. it's gonna be a db machine (unfortunately oracle) |
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| 18:30.50 | confusid | looking at different mount points of the install cd options. Do or should I use each it recomends? / /boo /home /tmp /usr /usr/local /var /srv /opt ? |
| 18:31.14 | somiaj | sobersabre: yea I would suggest a mirror on all important data. Some do this with the whole os, some just the databases, userdata. That way hardware fault won't take your data out. Regular backups are also recomeneded as they can help protect against user error and even if you use two disks mirroed they can both go bad at the same time. |
| 18:31.32 | specing | confusid: do as you wish |
| 18:31.33 | jhutchins_wk | confusid: No idea what you're talking about. |
| 18:31.38 | somiaj | confusid: depends on your setup. For desktops I personally like / and /home as my only two monts. |
| 18:31.49 | jhutchins_wk | confusid: Where you mount something depends on what it is. |
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| 18:32.08 | confusid | jhutchins_wk: using an install cd with xfce and when I go to make a partition the recomended names show that I listed here. |
| 18:32.08 | jhutchins_wk | confusid: If you're asking about partitioning, for a new user you want a single / and swap and that's all. |
| 18:32.09 | somiaj | I understood as he was more wanting to know partitioning / how to split up the data. |
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| 18:32.11 | specing | If you have LVM... go ahead and put every /* on a seperate partition |
| 18:32.32 | simplew | dondelelcaro: hi |
| 18:32.46 | somiaj | I personally like /home on a seperate parttion mostly due to ease of reinstalling. All my userdata settings I can leave alone. |
| 18:32.48 | confusid | specing: if the drive is a 750gb in a laptop lvm the faster way then to use a typical logical? |
| 18:33.14 | jhutchins_wk | confusid: Yes, it's possible to put all those on seperate partions (boo? Really?) but you will find that you have the space you desparately need on one partition is available on the wrong one. |
| 18:33.33 | confusid | I'm reinstalling again due to a much up while moving partitions around. lost all the data.. got it to the point grub couldn't do anything. |
| 18:33.49 | jhutchins_wk | confusid: You can mount a partition or device at any point in the filetree (which can sometimes get you out of that messs). |
| 18:34.23 | somiaj | confusid: I would keep it simple, no need to partition everything out like that unless you have a reason to do so. |
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| 18:34.30 | jhutchins_wk | confusid: That feature is mainly a holdover from when the various branches of the tree were stored on different devices. A branch could then be upgraded without disturbing the rest of the tree. |
| 18:34.31 | somiaj | and if you had a reason to do so, you probabaly woudln't be asking for advice. (: |
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| 18:34.46 | confusid | with a drive of 750gb is primary then logical partitions the way or to use the lvm? I tried an encripted lvm once and it was dog slow on this lappy. |
| 18:34.59 | confusid | ah ok |
| 18:35.10 | jhutchins_wk | confusid: I believe LVM is just one more thing to go wrong. |
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| 18:35.24 | confusid | ty for the info everyone |
| 18:35.29 | somiaj | I don't like LVM myself due to its a layer that makes data recovery harder than it needs to be. But then again with using only two partitions or even one, I don't need to move space around on the fly. |
| 18:35.36 | jhutchins_wk | confusid: As I said, and as somiaj suggests, unless and until you know why, keep it to / and swap. |
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| 18:39.18 | simplew | is possible to import a source rpm to rebuild it for debian? |
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| 18:40.26 | somiaj | simplew: why not just use the upstream source and compile your own .deb? |
| 18:40.32 | somiaj | simplew: have you looked at alien? |
| 18:40.57 | simplew | somiaj: i just used alien to import a rpm, but a src.rpm its different |
| 18:41.12 | ksuhku | alien says it's only for binary packages |
| 18:41.17 | somiaj | yea so a src rpm just is the source code and instructions to build. |
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| 18:41.30 | somiaj | again why do you want the source code from an .rpm and not just grab it from upstream? |
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| 18:42.06 | dondelelcaro | simplew: it is possible, but there's no point. Just start with the upstream source. |
| 18:42.07 | simplew | somiaj: i dont know how to go from that point |
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| 18:42.31 | simplew | dondelelcaro: i still havent had time to read the howto you pointed |
| 18:43.23 | ksuhku | no time like now |
| 18:43.47 | simplew | dondelelcaro: could you tell me again the url? |
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| 18:46.31 | Guest6372 | I am using Debian Wheezy. The program I am having trouble with runs on python. I do not know python language, but I need to checks the eggs against the versions listed in a configuration file eggs.ini. My instructions say that If check_eggs.py determines that eggs are missing or out of date, it will direct you to run fetch_eggs.py. But I do not know how to run the command. I used pytho .//scripts/check_eggs.py and got no r |
| 18:46.31 | Guest6372 | esults |
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| 18:47.46 | xuser | Hi, wheezy shows nice simple colors in for man pages in the console, any ideas how to get them to show like this in a terminal? |
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| 18:48.45 | xuser | I'm going to check if this is a env variable in less |
| 18:49.01 | ksuhku | xuser, could it be it uses most as the pager for man pages? |
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| 18:50.04 | jhutchins_wk | xuser: Investigate termcap. |
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| 18:53.25 | xuser | ksuhku: I don't have most installed |
| 18:53.37 | xuser | jhutchins_wk: ok |
| 18:54.46 | dondelelcaro | simplew: just search google for "debian maintainer guide packaging" and you'll find it |
| 18:55.10 | simplew | dondelelcaro: yes im reding it :) |
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| 18:57.14 | sobersabre | thanks guys, |
| 18:57.17 | sobersabre | I'm off |
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| 18:57.39 | simplew | dondelelcaro: im reading http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/first.en.html point 2.1 whereit says "Add Debian-specific packaging modifications to the upstream program under the debian directory", isnt there an app like uupdate to do these modifications ? |
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| 18:59.10 | jhutchins_wk | simplew: If you want the debian modifications, use the debian source package. |
| 18:59.21 | simplew | jhutchins_wk: there isnt any |
| 18:59.28 | dondelelcaro | simplew: that part is talking about using the quilt workflow to separate debian specific patches to upstream sources |
| 18:59.40 | jhutchins_wk | simplew: Otherewise, this only applies to modifications you make to specifically target debian (like you're packing for distribution). |
| 18:59.50 | dondelelcaro | simplew: when you're just getting started with packaging, you shouldn't have any debian specific patches, so you can basically skip that |
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| 19:00.33 | jhutchins_wk | simplew: It might be a good idea to to download the debian source or that of a similar package just to see what it looks like. |
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| 19:00.40 | gihad | Hey guys, what is the best way to run a new version of jsvc (e.g. the version from testing) in debian stable ? |
| 19:00.47 | bluesm | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:00.47 | gihad | I noticed jsvc is not in backports |
| 19:00.54 | jhutchins_wk | gihad: backport! |
| 19:01.15 | jhutchins_wk | gihad: Roll your own! |
| 19:02.19 | gihad | jhutchins_wk, what you mean roll my own ? |
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| 19:03.36 | damaxus | build from source |
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| 19:06.21 | gihad | Yeah, I guess I will have to build from source :/ |
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| 19:07.14 | ksuhku | gihad, it builds your character |
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| 19:07.27 | dondelelcaro | gihad: you don't have to build it from scratch from source. |
| 19:07.29 | bluesm | In what language are written config files of bash ? |
| 19:07.31 | dondelelcaro | !tell gihad -about ssb |
| 19:07.35 | dondelelcaro | bluesm: bash |
| 19:07.44 | dondelelcaro | gihad: the bot gave you instructions on what to do |
| 19:08.33 | gihad | dondelelcaro, thanks |
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| 19:10.04 | galvao | guys, how can I find the value of a env variable that I don't know by name? Is there some sort of "cat foo|grep bar" or something like that I can do? |
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| 19:10.47 | AimHere | 'env' lists all the currently set environment variables |
| 19:11.24 | ksuhku | ...for the current user |
| 19:11.35 | AimHere | ... in the current term |
| 19:11.39 | galvao | awesome! Thanks, guys. exactly what I was looking for |
| 19:11.43 | ksuhku | :) |
| 19:12.37 | AimHere | 'set' on it's own does something similar, and more spammy |
| 19:13.25 | galvao | Thanks AimHere, I was actually looking for 'env', forgot the command =) |
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| 19:24.35 | gihad | dondelelcaro, "step 2: enable backports, later steps: aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename" |
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| 19:25.15 | gihad | Wouldn't I have to issue commands like "aptitude -t <release> build-dep packagename" ? |
| 19:25.23 | dondelelcaro | gihad: no |
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| 19:25.35 | dondelelcaro | or at least, you usually wouldn't have to |
| 19:26.01 | dondelelcaro | gihad: you may have to install specific packages later, but you want the build dependencies to come from the target release (which is squeeze) |
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| 19:29.00 | wkhan113 | Openstack is popular on Twitter nowadays! |
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| 19:30.56 | dkr | we're having a talk on it at our LUG next year |
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| 19:32.09 | Knaldgas | kern.log has spurioius reports of "CPU0: Temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled", and then 1/100 sec. later it reports: "CPU0: Temperature/speed normal". What's going on? |
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| 19:34.29 | wkhan113 | Dkr: lug? |
| 19:34.47 | cnoob | clear |
| 19:35.56 | dondelelcaro | wkhan113: linux users group |
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| 19:36.35 | wkhan113 | Ahh. Where I live there is no users group :( |
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| 19:36.53 | gihad | dondelelcaro, the last part fails 'apt-get -b source jsvc' during make, I don't supposed you know what to do |
| 19:36.58 | Knaldgas | I've checked all kernel logs I have, and every single incident of "above threshold" is immediately followed by "normal", and incidents are approx 1 day apart... |
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| 19:38.26 | gihad | This is my build error, maybe someone can figure it out: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=XqQ5zkrb |
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| 19:41.21 | dondelelcaro | gihad: checking it out |
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| 19:42.06 | damaxus | Unable to locate tools.jar. Expected to find it in /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.26/lib/tools.jar |
| 19:42.08 | damaxus | i bet that's it. |
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| 19:42.53 | gihad | humm, but that's before |
| 19:42.57 | strawhat | Hi there Does debian support PF firewall |
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| 19:43.53 | dondelelcaro | gihad: you'll need the version of dpkg-dev from backports, iirc. |
| 19:44.25 | Sean-Der | Does anyone use Elink with 256 color? I tired grabbing the source via apt-get and it looks like its built with 256 color already, -version doesn't report either way though |
| 19:44.32 | dondelelcaro | gihad: because the version of dpkg-buildflags in squeeze doesn't support the --export option |
| 19:45.28 | wkhan113 | Strawhat: yes |
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| 19:45.34 | gihad | dondelelcaro, thanks! So after I install dpkg-dev I can follow the other steps normally ? |
| 19:45.34 | strawhat | wkhan113: thank you |
| 19:46.08 | dondelelcaro | gihad: hopefully |
| 19:46.22 | dondelelcaro | gihad: it's possible that you'll run into another error; in that case, just paste the full output into a pastebin as you did |
| 19:46.36 | gihad | I will let you know in a sex |
| 19:46.38 | gihad | sec* |
| 19:47.27 | gihad | I said sex and the guy's quit message said porno |
| 19:47.53 | wkhan113 | Bad minds. |
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| 19:50.05 | gihad | dondelelcaro, amazing... you were right. |
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| 19:51.30 | dondelelcaro | gihad: ah, good. Yeah, I have a bit of an advantage, since I follow Debian development, though. |
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| 20:16.52 | ska | Will xen 4.1 make its way to current stable (squeeze) ? |
| 20:17.41 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions xen |
| 20:17.42 | judd | No package named 'xen' was found in i386. |
| 20:18.33 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions xen-hypervisor |
| 20:18.34 | judd | No package named 'xen-hypervisor' was found in i386. |
| 20:18.40 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions xen-hypervisor-4 |
| 20:18.41 | judd | No package named 'xen-hypervisor-4' was found in i386. |
| 20:19.16 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions xen-hypervisor-4.0 |
| 20:19.17 | judd | No package named 'xen-hypervisor-4.0' was found in i386. |
| 20:19.22 | mirak | hi |
| 20:19.23 | jhutchins_wk | Ptttbbbt. |
| 20:20.35 | mirak | if i do a lvm snapshot of device A, then do dd if=A of=B, will there be a problem like same uuid for the device, stuffs like that ? |
| 20:20.53 | justin_ | jhutchins_wk: xen-hypervisor-4.0-i386 |
| 20:21.10 | mirak | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:22.36 | jhutchins_wk | ska: I'd say there's a chance it could be backported since it's in wheezy, but the main package will stay 4.0 |
| 20:23.17 | mirak | i answer my self: no |
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| 20:27.43 | valerie_ | what is the channel for tech support for mirc - I want to register |
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| 20:31.29 | LtL | valerie_: register mirc or register with freenode |
| 20:31.55 | valerie_ | LtL: yes that what I want - how should I do it |
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| 20:33.08 | LtL | valerie_: /msg nickserv help register or /join #freenode or http://freenode.net ..note iirc /msg nickserv you can do it by messaging alone |
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| 20:34.13 | LtL | valerie_: you wanna register mirc, go mirc.com |
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| 20:40.09 | afuentes | is there a way to list the keys you have signed? |
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| 20:46.31 | LtL | afuentes: gpg --check-sigs probably |
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| 20:48.13 | afuentes | LtL, thank you, but that shows all the sigs :( |
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| 20:48.48 | LtL | afuentes: gpg --list-keys perhaps, i'm not sure there is a way |
| 20:49.05 | afuentes | LtL, that shows every key i have in my keyring |
| 20:49.08 | afuentes | :( |
| 20:49.19 | afuentes | my google fu does not show anything either |
| 20:49.36 | LtL | afuentes: you could look on the keyservers at the specific key you think you signed, you will see it there. |
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| 20:51.22 | afuentes | LtL, yup.. i can tell if ive signed a key... there is just not a way to list all the keys ive signed |
| 20:51.44 | LtL | afuentes: not that i'm aware of |
| 20:52.14 | afuentes | u.u |
| 20:52.17 | LtL | afuentes: the man page may have your answer. |
| 20:52.17 | afuentes | thank you |
| 20:52.22 | LtL | np |
| 20:52.28 | afuentes | gnupg docs are awful |
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| 20:53.10 | SuperMiguel | so im having a hard time installing debian on a raid 0 system |
| 20:53.36 | SuperMiguel | after i create my mcadm raid 0 array |
| 20:53.49 | SuperMiguel | and create a raid 1 array for my /boot the system doesnt boot |
| 20:53.59 | SuperMiguel | it takes me to a busybox |
| 20:54.14 | justin_ | SuperMiguel: you use the installer to setup the raid arrays? |
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| 20:54.25 | SuperMiguel | yes |
| 20:54.52 | justin_ | what does it say before you end up in busybox |
| 20:55.38 | SuperMiguel | nothing |
| 20:55.45 | SuperMiguel | i reboot and it just takes me there |
| 20:56.21 | justin_ | eventually, yes |
| 20:56.24 | justin_ | what does it say before that |
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| 20:57.14 | afuentes | LtL, http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual/r1090.html |
| 20:58.01 | LtL | afuentes: does that tell you, im aware of it |
| 20:58.05 | McLovin | is away: doing something |
| 20:58.39 | afuentes | what? |
| 20:58.44 | dondelelcaro | McLovin: please turn off your away notification |
| 20:59.06 | LtL | afuentes: does update-trustdb tell you what you signed? |
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| 20:59.37 | afuentes | nah... just a bit of how awful gnupg docs are u.u |
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| 21:00.52 | afuentes | 'nyway... im off... enough beating my head agaisnt the wall for a day |
| 21:00.57 | afuentes | ty |
| 21:01.01 | LtL | afuentes: like i said if you know the name look it up on any of the keyservers, your name/key will be on their list. |
| 21:01.09 | afuentes | yup... |
| 21:01.33 | afuentes | i already can tell if im signed a key looking at my keyring |
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| 21:01.53 | afuentes | i just can tell apart those keys ive signed from those witch i havent |
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| 21:03.08 | afuentes | without taking out pen and paper i mean |
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| 21:03.58 | daveo | when i do an apt-get update for wheezy, it always downloads lots of different country/national options, is there a way to limit this to use only US? |
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| 21:05.28 | LtL | afuentes: if you are worried about it revoke the key |
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| 21:06.46 | Guest75395 | I am using Debian Wheezy. Is there a way to see the history in the console with the responses? If I just use 'history' command, I can see only the commands I typed, but not the responses. Thanks. |
| 21:07.30 | ompaul | Guest75395: no |
| 21:07.37 | afuentes | Guest75395, you mean the output of the commands... and there is no way to see the output unless you tell it explicetely to save the output |
| 21:07.59 | afuentes | for example, with the command script |
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| 21:09.18 | ragix | Does anyone know about rp-pppoe/pppoe-server ? |
| 21:09.34 | Guest75395 | afuentes, and how do I tell it to save the output? |
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| 21:10.47 | jhutchins_wk | There are ways to record a console session. |
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| 21:11.49 | engla | Guest75395: the command 'script' starts a new shell where output is also recorded. `script' needs to be started each time though |
| 21:12.29 | f8l | Guest75395: screendump will print the current content of the console. Just make sure to redirect it to a file. |
| 21:12.31 | jhutchins_wk | engla: That's the one I was thinking of. |
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| 21:13.05 | engla | yeah afuentes mentioned it above too. I just emphasised it |
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| 21:13.48 | Guest75395 | engla, thanks |
| 21:14.02 | Guest75395 | f8l, thanks |
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| 21:14.26 | Guest75395 | afuentes, thanks |
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| 21:19.23 | freaky[t] | hi all. does anybody know how to setup a good video streaming website on a server or maybe video streaming server? |
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| 21:39.27 | AlexLikeRock | i need alternative thent nautilus |
| 21:39.49 | AlexLikeRock | and they are stable, please :) |
| 21:39.56 | streuner | nautilus isnt an alternative, its a pain |
| 21:40.05 | jordanm | mc |
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| 21:40.35 | streuner | AlexLikeRock: what do you use (DE)? |
| 21:40.46 | streuner | AlexLikeRock: Gnome? |
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| 21:42.38 | streuner | AlexLikeRock: its true, what jordanm told you, mc is a very good filemanager |
| 21:42.41 | AlexLikeRock | yes gnome , but i have a little bug now they not open, and i can not restart |
| 21:43.07 | AlexLikeRock | i now nautilus its the best , but now they have little problem |
| 21:43.50 | streuner | AlexLikeRock: forget nautilus, mc is very lightweighted and stable |
| 21:45.20 | AlexLikeRock | i will never leave natilus , sorry. |
| 21:45.34 | engla | never say never |
| 21:45.37 | engla | ;-) |
| 21:46.39 | vacuous | terminator has a feature to run custom commands (bit like macro scripts). is it possible to do that another way? like putting sh scripts in the application menus |
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| 21:46.51 | vacuous | I've discovered that terminator doesn't play nice with awesome and debian |
| 21:47.35 | AlexLikeRock | ok i try "mc" & thunar |
| 21:48.08 | AlexLikeRock | engla : you sound like "bibelever" jajaj |
| 21:48.26 | engla | ok I have no idea why |
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| 21:49.22 | streuner | AlexLikeRock: whats a bibelever? |
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| 21:50.53 | streuner | found an entry in google about bibelserver but not that |
| 21:51.45 | fleeky | anyone know if the ar9223 wireless chipset supports master mode ? |
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| 21:52.13 | streuner | dpkg, listvals ar9223 |
| 21:52.15 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'ar9223' by value returned no results. |
| 21:52.30 | streuner | dpkg, listkeys ar9223 |
| 21:52.32 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'ar9223' by key returned no results. |
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| 21:53.00 | streuner | huh, a bad sign, if dpkg didnt find any entry in the db |
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| 21:53.42 | fleeky | hmm odd |
| 21:53.56 | fleeky | back to the searches for me , thanks |
| 21:53.58 | GeneralCase | http://codepad.org/Q57FYcg2 - how do I clear this error _without_ running apt-get -f install? |
| 21:54.48 | engla | GeneralCase: then you resolve dependencies of broken packages manually |
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| 21:54.51 | GeneralCase | how |
| 21:54.54 | GeneralCase | dpkg? |
| 21:55.12 | engla | I think apt-get should be fine |
| 21:55.14 | streuner | fleeky: wait, google just mention ath9k |
| 21:55.14 | themill | an apt-get update would be a good start |
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| 21:55.34 | streuner | fleeky: just check out wiki.debian.org about |
| 21:55.46 | fleeky | okie dokie |
| 21:56.39 | streuner | fleeky: well, #atheros might help in this case maybe too |
| 21:56.53 | fleeky | thanks for that ! |
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| 21:57.08 | fleeky | hmm no one there :) |
| 21:57.31 | streuner | hm, they have another channel name |
| 21:57.38 | fleeky | basically the problem, currently the mode is set to ad-hoc |
| 21:57.47 | fleeky | i thought i could do iwconfig wlan0 mode Master |
| 21:57.53 | fleeky | didnt seem to work |
| 21:58.07 | fleeky | setting it to any mode other then ad-hoc didnt yield much success either |
| 21:58.32 | AlexLikeRock | streuner : http://www.rosabellamusic.com/tag/madonna |
| 21:59.01 | AlexLikeRock | http://wallpaperjustinbieber.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/justin-bieber-portadas-facebook-beliebers-perfil.jpg |
| 21:59.20 | AlexLikeRock | http://www.google.com.mx/imgres?um=1&hl=es&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:es-MX:official&biw=1366&bih=647&tbm=isch&tbnid=6vYGvYgOQJ8l2M:&imgrefurl=http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/an-apprentice-v-the-master-justin-bieber-and-bob-dylan/story-e6frfn09-1226045329582&docid=EizkO8pr0WPsHM&imgurl=http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/04/27/1226045/342085-justin-bieber.jpg&w=650&h=366&ei=wmOIUPLgIYPc2gXn-4H4Bg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=568&vpy=223&d |
| 21:59.20 | AlexLikeRock | ur=1090&hovh=168&hovw=299&tx=218&ty=123&sig=101345585134970201802&page=2&tbnh=148&tbnw=280&start=20&ndsp=27&ved=1t:429,r:23,s:20,i:195 |
| 21:59.37 | AlexLikeRock | and this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belieber |
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| 21:59.50 | themill | AlexLikeRock: umm...? |
| 22:00.22 | AlexLikeRock | open |
| 22:00.27 | engla | he's answering someone who asked |
| 22:00.34 | AlexLikeRock | yes |
| 22:00.36 | engla | but we don't need this |
| 22:00.44 | streuner | fleeky: #madwifi is the channel |
| 22:00.47 | AlexLikeRock | oks |
| 22:01.02 | AlexLikeRock | no |
| 22:01.03 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.07 | themill | AlexLikeRock: please keep it on topic and don't paste stupid links like that that get broken over severl lines. |
| 22:01.22 | AlexLikeRock | anwer the streuner question |
| 22:01.24 | AlexLikeRock | sorry |
| 22:01.59 | fleeky | cheers streuner |
| 22:02.07 | jhutchins_wk | AlexLikeRock: You can use tools like bit.ly and tidyurl.com to make short URLs, but this is an inappropriate place for that. |
| 22:02.39 | AlexLikeRock | ok |
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| 22:02.43 | AlexLikeRock | i forgot |
| 22:03.16 | streuner | AlexLikeRock: hehe, thanks :-) |
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| 22:17.13 | a111 | Is there anything quicker than wget -r for downloading an entire site |
| 22:17.24 | a111 | its only doing a single file at a time, not utilising all the bandwidth |
| 22:18.12 | dondelelcaro | a111: a single file at a time will use all of the bandwidth available. |
| 22:18.32 | dondelelcaro | doing more is just consuming resources on the server |
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| 22:21.27 | jeep | a111: aria2c |
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| 22:28.20 | nannes | Hi |
| 22:28.33 | nannes | I'm gonna install the newest version of nvidia drivers |
| 22:28.38 | nannes | with nvidia-install |
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| 22:29.23 | nannes | My question is: how can I check which version of gcc has been used to compile my kernel ? |
| 22:29.32 | zykotick9 | nannes: if you aren't using the debian method, you might want to ask in #nvidia for support. |
| 22:30.24 | nannes | no no no |
| 22:30.53 | nannes | I'm just asking which version of gcc my kernel has been compiled with |
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| 22:31.38 | nannes | I'm with wheezy's 3.2.0-3-686-pae |
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| 22:33.40 | dondelelcaro | nannes: cat /proc/version |
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| 22:34.57 | nannes | wonderful |
| 22:34.58 | nannes | thanks |
| 22:36.58 | dondelelcaro | you can also find it embedded in the kernel, but that's slightly more difficult |
| 22:37.12 | nannes | tell me the way |
| 22:37.13 | nannes | ;D |
| 22:37.18 | LtL | nannes: gcc -v |
| 22:37.38 | nannes | LtL: isn't it to find out the current version of gcc ? XD |
| 22:37.52 | LtL | nannes: yes and much more. |
| 22:39.59 | themill | LtL: you'll actually find a significant difference between gcc -v and the kernel listed in /proc/version for debian's kernels |
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| 22:40.27 | LtL | themill: sorry |
| 22:40.50 | themill | LtL: these are interesting things to muse about |
| 22:41.11 | LtL | i thought so :) |
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| 22:47.53 | moogler | So I keep on getting a failed mux info call failed error while booting up debian, is there a fix for this? |
| 22:48.32 | dondelelcaro | moogler: you'll have to give more information; that's not an error that I'm familiar with. |
| 22:49.17 | moogler | dondelelcaro: Not sure how much more detail I can give you, the error is just [drm:intel_dsm_platform_mux_info] *ERROR* MUX INFO call failed |
| 22:49.30 | moogler | I'm pretty sure it's something to do with my Optimus Nvidia card |
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| 22:50.19 | Phlogistique | hi |
| 22:50.36 | Phlogistique | I'm trying to debootstrap from an Arch Linux install |
| 22:50.52 | Phlogistique | I fail with W: Failure trying to run: chroot /new mount -t proc proc /proc |
| 22:51.03 | Phlogistique | the log is: mount: permission denied |
| 22:51.11 | Phlogistique | what should I do? |
| 22:51.21 | Phlogistique | "mount" says /dev/root on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,data=ordered) |
| 22:52.02 | zykotick9 | Phlogistique: "chroot /new mount ..." doesn't look right to me |
| 22:52.53 | Phlogistique | that's what debootstrap is trying to do; It would probably be better to do cd /new; mount -t proc proc proc |
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| 22:53.45 | zykotick9 | Phlogistique: chroot and mount are two separate commands, i guess you could separate them with && maybe? |
| 22:54.02 | Phlogistique | zykotick9: I think you misunderstood |
| 22:54.03 | zykotick9 | Phlogistique: FYI you need the mounts done BEFORE you chroot |
| 22:54.21 | Phlogistique | this is what debootstrap tries to do |
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| 22:55.05 | dondelelcaro | Phlogistique: what are the permissions on /new? |
| 22:55.08 | Phlogistique | (it tries to execute mount -t proc proc /proc in a chroot; which doesn't work on my system, I don't know why) |
| 22:55.31 | dondelelcaro | and what filesystem is /new? |
| 22:55.41 | Phlogistique | it's a directory in / |
| 22:55.56 | Phlogistique | I intend to rsync --delete-after /new / |
| 22:55.59 | Phlogistique | when I'm done |
| 22:56.16 | dondelelcaro | Phlogistique: and what does chroot /new mount; output? |
| 22:56.36 | Phlogistique | dondelelcaro: warning: can't open /etc/mtab: No such file or directory |
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| 22:56.49 | dondelelcaro | hrm |
| 22:57.00 | dondelelcaro | Phlogistique: and chroot /new mount -t proc proc /proc; completes? |
| 22:57.02 | Phlogistique | dondelelcaro: drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 4096 Dec 28 2009 /new |
| 22:57.27 | dondelelcaro | Phlogistique: ok, that looks fine. I was trying to figure out if /new was a separate filesystem mounted noexec or something else silly |
| 22:58.04 | Phlogistique | dondelelcaro: "chroot /new mount -t proc proc /proc" yields "mount: permission denied" |
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| 22:58.21 | moogler | Any solutions to that problem? |
| 22:58.26 | dondelelcaro | Phlogistique: as root, I'm guessing? |
| 22:58.34 | dondelelcaro | hrm... that's pretty strange |
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| 22:58.41 | Phlogistique | dondelelcaro: yes |
| 22:58.44 | Beastie | jeeze... does wgetpaste work??? I checked some of the links of the default programs used and they are either down or sent to a wrong url. |
| 22:58.52 | Phlogistique | hum |
| 22:58.57 | Phlogistique | btw! Grsec |
| 22:59.06 | dondelelcaro | oh. well, there you go. |
| 22:59.11 | Beastie | I've downloaded 2 different versions and they just hang there. Not sure if it's something stupid on my part or what. |
| 22:59.16 | Phlogistique | uname -r |
| 22:59.17 | Phlogistique | 3.2.13-grsec-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64 |
| 22:59.36 | Phlogistique | now how would I deal with that... |
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| 22:59.51 | Phlogistique | there's no #grsec! |
| 22:59.58 | caraconan | Good night. There's a desktop widget similar to batterymon but for Debian? |
| 23:00.12 | caraconan | A widget to show graphically the battery charge |
| 23:00.14 | Beastie | nm found out it was me being dumb |
| 23:00.19 | themill | Phlogistique: there is ##grsecurity though |
| 23:00.48 | Beastie | shit nm...stupid thing. |
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| 23:08.40 | caraconan | There's no widget/package/something to show the status of the laptop battery? |
| 23:09.24 | CissWit | $ acpi |
| 23:09.26 | CissWit | Battery 0: Full, 100% |
| 23:09.48 | CissWit | or you could use one of the widgets available for your wm / desktop environment |
| 23:09.57 | themill | caraconan: there are many -- depends on what desktop environment you're using |
| 23:10.07 | zykotick9 | CissWit: that was my first thought as well, hardy a "widget" though - MUCH more handy. |
| 23:10.08 | caraconan | awesome |
| 23:10.24 | caraconan | <themill> I do prefer to avoid to touch the rc.lua config file |
| 23:10.32 | caraconan | If possible just install a debian package |
| 23:10.58 | dondelelcaro | caraconan: for awesome, it's actually better to muck with the rc.lua |
| 23:11.01 | caraconan | I was used to use batterymon for Arch linux |
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| 23:11.30 | dondelelcaro | caraconan: just use obvious.battery[5~ |
| 23:11.44 | caraconan | Thanks, but I do resist to accept that this such a simple thing needs code to happen... |
| 23:11.57 | dondelelcaro | caraconan: it needs three lines |
| 23:11.59 | dondelelcaro | it's trivial |
| 23:12.09 | themill | caraconan: you're the one who chose a WM that requires that sort of configuration.... |
| 23:12.11 | dondelelcaro | you can even see my rc.lua if you need an example |
| 23:12.11 | caraconan | Just that line? It will auto-refresh? |
| 23:12.24 | dondelelcaro | caraconan: and reload rc.lua, and you're done. yes. |
| 23:13.11 | caraconan | Exactly where should I add this line in my rc.lua file? |
| 23:13.18 | dondelelcaro | http://svn.donarmstrong.com/don/trunk/home_modules/x_base/.config/awesome/rc.lua |
| 23:13.31 | dondelelcaro | caraconan: see the three lines which match battery. |
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| 23:13.59 | caraconan | My rc.lua does not contain this string 'battery' |
| 23:14.07 | caraconan | Sorry, I'm asleep |
| 23:14.12 | Beastie | Hi all, I'm running into issues booting my gnome gui on this old powerpc G3. I've located a possible "fix" here --> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/black-screen-after-installing-debian-on-powerpc-imac-936701/ |
| 23:14.25 | Beastie | I'm not sure what else to change in the xorg config file. |
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| 23:16.58 | Beastie | Damn, I'm not sure what to comment and uncomment on xorg.conf? |
| 23:17.39 | nannes | Ok people .. |
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| 23:17.54 | nannes | what if I want to make an older version of gcc the default? |
| 23:18.04 | nannes | I have many versions of it installed on my sistem |
| 23:18.07 | nannes | *system |
| 23:18.21 | nannes | Newest is 4.7 |
| 23:18.25 | themill | nannes: you don't and shouldn't need to -- what are you trying to achieve? |
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| 23:18.41 | nannes | themill: installing nvidia drivers |
| 23:18.46 | nannes | there's no configure script |
| 23:18.49 | Beastie | Is there a guide anywhere as to what should be commented and what should not be commented? |
| 23:18.51 | nannes | to give the CC variable |
| 23:19.26 | themill | nannes: installing the debian packages takes care of this for you and is a lot less trouble in the long run |
| 23:19.48 | Beastie | nannes: are you talking to me regarding the configuration script? |
| 23:20.01 | nannes | themill: There's a specific reason cause I've chosen to install from nvidia-installer+ |
| 23:20.03 | vacuous | having problems installing vm tools |
| 23:20.18 | nannes | Beastie: nope..! |
| 23:20.18 | vacuous | "reinstall vm tools" doesn't do anything, so I cannot extract the gz |
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| 23:20.34 | nannes | themill: I need the newest drivers available |
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| 23:25.01 | Beastie | I found one |
| 23:25.14 | Beastie | alright sorry nannes |
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| 23:27.45 | roboman2444 | roboman2444> so, how do i install 32 bit compatibility libs on a 64 bit machine? |
| 23:27.45 | roboman2444 | <roboman2444> for fglrx |
| 23:27.54 | roboman2444 | official .run files from amd site |
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| 23:35.47 | vacuous | does anyone know how to install vm tools? |
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| 23:36.26 | damaxus | there are docs all over the place on how to do that |
| 23:36.35 | damaxus | i know the wiki has a doc on it |
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| 23:37.06 | Psychoactive | apt-get install open-vm-tools |
| 23:37.06 | Psychoactive | ? |
| 23:37.07 | Psychoactive | :) |
| 23:37.36 | vacuous | it's not working |
| 23:37.52 | vacuous | well it is, but it's not working correctly, copy and paste fails to work |
| 23:38.06 | vacuous | http://surlyjake.com/2011/02/install-open-vm-tools-on-debian-6-squeeze/ |
| 23:38.08 | vacuous | I've tried that |
| 23:38.50 | Psychoactive | don't know it must work this way |
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| 23:39.18 | damaxus | open-vm-toolbox is what i'd expect would handle copy/paste sync |
| 23:39.22 | damaxus | at least in X |
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| 23:41.48 | damaxus | also you havent said what you're virtualizing in |
| 23:41.56 | damaxus | vmware workstation, fusion, server, esxi, virtualbox, etc |
| 23:42.02 | damaxus | and version |
| 23:42.31 | vacuous | vmware workstation and version 8 I think |
| 23:42.56 | vacuous | 8.0.4 |
| 23:46.50 | damaxus | ok |
| 23:47.14 | damaxus | http://www.3open.org/d/tips/installing_vmware_tools_using_repository#debian_squeeze |
| 23:47.21 | damaxus | that's more in keeping with what i remember dealing with |
| 23:47.25 | damaxus | in particular using module-assistant |
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| 23:48.08 | damaxus | also i think at one point in squeeze the tools were upgraded to a version that was too new for the underlying kernel |
| 23:48.12 | damaxus | I think they've fixed that though |
| 23:48.50 | damaxus | these days i predominantly use kvm on the server (virtio ftw) and virtualbox on the desktop (debian installer auto-installs tools) |
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| 23:51.14 | vacuous | I hate vbox, and thanks I'll look at this |
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| 23:51.51 | damaxus | vbox was cooler before oracle bought sun. |
| 23:52.01 | damaxus | free and works well enough though |
| 23:52.14 | zykotick9 | i use kvm, with virtio and the understanding i can't run 3D environments on my desktop... |
| 23:53.05 | damaxus | i use so little X |
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| 23:53.22 | damaxus | though you can definitely use a bit of X and terminal services on a KVM |
| 23:53.23 | zykotick9 | damaxus: i use X for a lot of terminal windows ;) |
| 23:53.24 | damaxus | just yeah no 3D |
| 23:53.27 | damaxus | hehe |
| 23:53.32 | damaxus | yeah, good enough |
| 23:53.42 | damaxus | we use a financial package that runs on X |
| 23:54.02 | damaxus | 30 people on a linux box with VNC is so much cheaper than msft / remote desktop licensing |
| 23:54.03 | zykotick9 | damaxus: i'd still consider "screen" to be my main WM |
| 23:54.09 | vacuous | well vbox puts files everywhere |
| 23:54.11 | vacuous | that's why I hate it |
| 23:54.16 | reuf | can some one please give me some graphical tutorial on how user management works in debian - where does root .bash_history goes, and where does simple user's history .bash_history go |
| 23:54.20 | vacuous | on this it says create the source file |
| 23:54.26 | reuf | and whats the main difference between all these shells |
| 23:54.27 | reuf | ? |
| 23:54.29 | vacuous | can I just edit /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 23:54.34 | vacuous | nano it |
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| 23:54.47 | vacuous | I don't understand the cat thing |
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| 23:54.48 | damaxus | vacuous: i woudlnt use their packages nor edit sources.list |
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| 23:54.58 | jeep | reuf: ~/.bash_history in /home/username/.bash_history |
| 23:55.07 | damaxus | just make sure you have contrib in your sources.list |
| 23:55.07 | vacuous | you linked me the page but I shouldn't use it? |
| 23:55.11 | vacuous | ah okay |
| 23:55.13 | zykotick9 | vacuous: make a backup first! then edit to your hearts content |
| 23:55.21 | damaxus | start from the update on downard, sorry |
| 23:55.36 | vacuous | you're basically tellling me to do the same thing I linked |
| 23:55.40 | damaxus | for future ref though, what they did with cat is called a heredoc |
| 23:55.52 | vacuous | http://surlyjake.com/2011/02/install-open-vm-tools-on-debian-6-squeeze/ |
| 23:55.53 | vacuous | there |
| 23:55.57 | vacuous | and this doesn't work |
| 23:56.26 | zykotick9 | vacuous: you followed some random link off the net - what do you expect? |
| 23:57.03 | vacuous | re-read |
| 23:57.04 | damaxus | vacuous: ah.. huh. didn't notice the bottom part of that. indeed it does do the module-assistant bit |
| 23:57.07 | damaxus | where's it failing? |
| 23:57.26 | vacuous | copy and pasting isn't working, file sharing between host and guest isn't working |
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| 23:58.21 | reuf | how can i list all of my global vars in bash? |
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| 23:59.30 | kaste | ok i have an odd request i guess, i have a box where i am not root, have no building tools installed but want a couple of packages for my user (mainly tmux, zsh and socat). Normally i'd build them with a prefix but i got no build tools, is there any way to do this with the help of another box? sort of build it there, copy it over, make install? |
| 23:59.35 | dondelelcaro | reuf: if you mean env vars, env. |
| 23:59.36 | kaste | reuf: env |
| 23:59.37 | jeep | reuf: env perhaps ? |
