| 00:00.18 | ubd | hello im noob. I wanted to install somethn from unstable, does it also update existing libs etc? because the download sizes differ when i use stable only and stable with unstable repos. |
| 00:00.23 | mz|` | help the man, stop the argument, this channel is dedicated to help people |
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| 00:02.02 | mz|` | tintin: if you want to use aptitude, you have to download the package (.deb) and extract it in a folder, if you use apt-get you will be able to download the sources as an archive |
| 00:02.04 | lewix | mz|`: that's no just any link if you've noticed. I thought www.debian.org was the official website of the distribution, I might be wrong |
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| 00:02.21 | Tramp | ubd: don't do that. |
| 00:02.26 | Tramp | !bpo > ubd |
| 00:02.35 | ubd | ? |
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| 00:02.59 | tintin | CFLAGS='-Wall -g -O2 -Wall , what does it mean by -O2 , what is 2 for ? |
| 00:03.05 | Tramp | !tell bpo -about upd |
| 00:03.22 | ubd | !tell bpo -about ubd |
| 00:03.25 | dvs | try again |
| 00:03.26 | Tramp | sorry |
| 00:03.27 | mz|` | lewix: you prefer argue (badly, if i may) than help people... dear. lord. |
| 00:03.33 | Tramp | !tell upb -about bpo |
| 00:03.40 | Tramp | !tell ubb -about bpo |
| 00:03.44 | ubd | !tell ubd -about bpo |
| 00:03.49 | tintin | aptitude download irssi doesn't download the source code, but the .db |
| 00:03.52 | aeg | but i need help: how do i set a kernel parameter so it is used by the current kernel ? |
| 00:04.00 | Tramp | ubd: that should have done it - sorry for the confusion |
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| 00:04.03 | mz|` | tintin: that's exactly what i told you |
| 00:04.06 | mz|` | read above please |
| 00:04.57 | tintin | But i asked about downloading the source code of irssi with aptitude , not the .deb package |
| 00:04.59 | mz|` | aeg: you may try to override some kernel parameters using /etc/default/grub if you use this loader |
| 00:05.05 | Tramp | ubd: you can /msg dpkg about the stuff in <..> |
| 00:05.12 | mz|` | tintin: you have to extract it afterwards |
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| 00:05.15 | mz|` | like i told oyu |
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| 00:05.33 | lewix | mz|`tintin: why use aptitude ..? // I was just giving my opinions but you don't seem open to it |
| 00:05.42 | tintin | mz|`: If you extract it you won't get the source code anyway, |
| 00:06.05 | jagginess | tintin, source code packages are separate from binary packages |
| 00:06.11 | mz|` | i'm straightforward with the solution lewix, not burning hours not to help |
| 00:06.26 | mz|` | tintin: so use apt-get source...dang. |
| 00:06.58 | mz|` | you can also directly download the source code on the official website/repo/else |
| 00:07.21 | lewix | mz|`: it's no solution forcing someone to use your favorite tool, but you're right on one end we're wasting time |
| 00:07.43 | mz|` | so tell us how to use aptitude to download the source code |
| 00:07.44 | mz|` | please do |
| 00:08.02 | ubd | isnt there an option to install the software from unstable but not touch existing packages? |
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| 00:08.25 | somiaj | ubd: make a backport, /msg dpkg ssbp |
| 00:08.33 | somiaj | you want to compile it against stable sources so you don't install the unstable depends |
| 00:08.35 | mz|` | lewix: btw it is not my favorite tool :-/ sorry for that also. |
| 00:08.51 | ubd | OK i get it now thank you |
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| 00:09.00 | tintin | YOu can't download source code with aptitude |
| 00:09.11 | somiaj | tintin: yea it apears so, so use apt-get |
| 00:09.28 | mz|` | why trying to do it if you know you can't ..? |
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| 00:10.13 | tintin | mz|`: Did you know you cant ? |
| 00:10.29 | lewix | mz|`: my apologies I didn't understand what was going on I just jumped in when i read why use aptitude =) |
| 00:10.45 | mz|` | read my first answer.. tintin ;) |
| 00:10.54 | mz|` | lewix: yw, np |
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| 00:11.21 | somiaj | ubd: note backports sometimes require you backport multiple packages |
| 00:11.30 | somiaj | ubd: /msg judd check-backport <package name> |
| 00:11.43 | somiaj | that will tell you if your package can be backported easily or if you need to backport other packages with it |
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| 00:16.10 | rainfyre | " For some upgrades, apt-get is preferred (e.g. lenny->squeeze). " -- I never knew this |
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| 00:16.41 | somiaj | that is why it is best to wait for it to stablalize and read the release notes and the upgrade process |
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| 00:17.34 | rainfyre | somiaj: that is wise |
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| 00:21.29 | vacuous | got it working finally :D |
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| 00:27.08 | luchenbill | what's the best way to set up some kind of irc bot/bouncer that will keep my nick online 24/7? |
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| 00:28.19 | quitte | luchenbill: run it on your router and attach with screen? |
| 00:29.06 | luchenbill | quitte, i'm sorry I guess I should have said my env, I just bought a vps for the first time ever, and it's running debian 6 |
| 00:29.17 | vacuous | luchenbill, run znc |
| 00:29.18 | luchenbill | i'm very new to linux etc so i'm not sure of what technologies I sould use |
| 00:29.19 | luchenbill | :) |
| 00:29.26 | vacuous | use znc undoubtedly |
| 00:29.45 | vacuous | and a cheap host should be able one dollar a month |
| 00:29.46 | luchenbill | would this cause any kind of security issues for the box? |
| 00:29.51 | vacuous | maybe two dollars |
| 00:29.56 | luchenbill | i'm using vr.org |
| 00:29.57 | vacuous | no, you run it with a second name |
| 00:30.00 | vacuous | not root |
| 00:30.14 | luchenbill | oh damn, yeah I can't create another user I don't think :} |
| 00:30.27 | vacuous | are you sure? |
| 00:30.41 | luchenbill | root@django:~# adduser adduser: Only one or two names allowed. |
| 00:31.00 | vacuous | do you have a static ip? |
| 00:31.08 | luchenbill | I think it is yeah |
| 00:31.13 | mz|` | terrible limitation ! |
| 00:31.14 | luchenbill | it has not changed in 72 hours |
| 00:31.17 | vacuous | with znc you can set it so only specific ips can connect |
| 00:31.45 | luchenbill | is there a way to echo out my ip like echo %ip% or something? |
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| 00:32.00 | quitte | that looks more like you used the wron arguments: you passed 0 users as the argument to adduser instead of one or two |
| 00:32.05 | mz|` | curl ifconfig.me / ifconfig / ip a ? |
| 00:32.07 | luchenbill | oh probably ipconfig? or something? |
| 00:32.09 | vacuous | not sure I know what you mean, but it prevents people from other IPs of connecting |
| 00:32.10 | luchenbill | haha yeah |
| 00:32.20 | vacuous | if you want it to |
| 00:32.42 | luchenbill | quitte yeah I don't _really_ know how to admin a box fully yet from only a terminal, but i'm loving what I can do so far |
| 00:32.53 | luchenbill | vacuous awesome that sounds nice |
| 00:33.01 | quitte | luchenbill: adduser luchenbill ? |
| 00:33.19 | vacuous | there's a blog that offers linux servers, the latest cheap prices and stuff |
| 00:33.24 | vacuous | forgotten the name of it now but it will come to me |
| 00:33.36 | luchenbill | this vr.org seems nice, it's only $10/mo |
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| 00:33.40 | luchenbill | but it's only 256mb ram |
| 00:33.43 | vacuous | this is way cheaper |
| 00:33.52 | vacuous | http://www.lowendbox.com/ |
| 00:33.53 | vacuous | that |
| 00:33.58 | luchenbill | I figured I didn't need much ram though, as i'm just learning |
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| 00:34.58 | luchenbill | quitte i'm reading the 'manual' now |
| 00:35.28 | luchenbill | the thing that confuses me, is all the damn -- options |
| 00:35.28 | luchenbill | for everything terminal based I guess |
| 00:35.40 | luchenbill | very powerful, but it takes time to learn all the options I suppose |
| 00:35.56 | vacuous | hm it's not that bad |
| 00:36.08 | quitte | luchenbill: the -- options are mostly longnames for the short - options |
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| 00:36.30 | luchenbill | so like --firstuserid would be like -f? |
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| 00:36.40 | quitte | if the manual says so |
| 00:36.57 | luchenbill | cool good to know :) |
| 00:37.20 | quitte | luchenbill: the options in [] are optional |
| 00:37.25 | quitte | in the synopsis |
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| 00:38.29 | luchenbill | when I create a username, using adduser, shoudl I add that user to a group as well? |
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| 00:39.06 | quitte | for a irc bouncer not. only if it needs permission for whatever that group is granted additional access |
| 00:39.27 | luchenbill | so wait I should add a specific user just to run a znc? |
| 00:39.35 | quitte | luchenbill: the user is in one group by default. usually either users or its own group |
| 00:40.22 | quitte | luchenbill: you can. |
| 00:41.07 | luchenbill | cool I just created a user :D |
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| 00:41.39 | monkeyhybrid | hi guys. I am writing a bash script that amongst other things, configures a cloned Debian install with a new hostname. Should the hostname of a Linux install as set in /etc/hostname always be a single hostname segment (e.g. 'myserver'), or would it also be valid for it to have periods in it, seperating two or more hostname segments (e.g. myserver.servers)? |
| 00:42.13 | luchenbill | so on other linux boxes I have been a -normal- user, and I have had to access the sudo / sudoers group? to install software etc? is that something I have to setup from the 'root' username? |
| 00:42.16 | monkeyhybrid | I ask because I want to check user input with a suitable regex but not sure what is valid yet. I know a FQDM should not be in there... |
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| 00:42.23 | dvs | monkeyhybrid: I think that's one segment |
| 00:42.40 | tzarc | /etc/hostname => short, /etc/domainname appended domain, /etc/hosts generally short + FQDN |
| 00:42.49 | tzarc | BUT |
| 00:42.51 | tzarc | it varies |
| 00:42.51 | tzarc | :P: |
| 00:43.02 | quitte | luchenbill: you need to edit the sudoers file. this can be done by any user that has permissions. usually that is root |
| 00:43.33 | luchenbill | and this will allow the non-root user to do things like use apt-get etc? |
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| 00:44.12 | quitte | yes |
| 00:44.27 | monkeyhybrid | cheers tzarc. So although typically /etc/hostname is short, it would be valid for it to be multiple segments too? |
| 00:44.59 | tzarc | not that I know of |
| 00:45.01 | tzarc | machine name only |
| 00:45.13 | luchenbill | looks like I can just do something like adduser foo sudo? |
| 00:45.14 | tzarc | you'd have to look it up I'm afraid |
| 00:45.24 | monkeyhybrid | ah ok, cool. that makes my task simpler then :) |
| 00:45.34 | tzarc | http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/ChangeHostname |
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| 00:45.45 | tzarc | should get you on your way |
| 00:46.15 | monkeyhybrid | I've checked that page out tzarc. It's the basis I am using for my script, but it doesn't really specify the rules of what can be in /etc/hostname |
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| 00:46.42 | quitte | luchenbill: if sudoers is configured that way. |
| 00:46.53 | luchenbill | man I have so much learning to do |
| 00:46.53 | luchenbill | haha |
| 00:47.14 | monkeyhybrid | I've never come across anything other than the shortname in /etc/hostname, so I'll stick with that for now. Cheers tzarc |
| 00:47.19 | tzarc | if you follow the manpages it's likely that they'll tell you where they get each piece of information from |
| 00:47.30 | quitte | ibm developer works has or had a course to prepare for becoming lpi certified for free |
| 00:47.33 | tzarc | check hostname(1) for an example |
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| 00:47.39 | luchenbill | quitte are there any noob tutorials that could teach a new noob tons of cool stuff? |
| 00:48.09 | nsadmin | what do you consider cool? |
| 00:48.11 | quitte | luchenbill: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/lpi/ |
| 00:48.32 | tzarc | in fact, man 1 hostname says: "/etc/hostname This file should only contain the hostname and not the full FQDN." |
| 00:48.44 | tzarc | in the files section |
| 00:48.44 | luchenbill | nsadmin I guess basic functionality, running a box from terminal |
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| 00:50.03 | monkeyhybrid | yeah, I saw that info but somewhere else I read that although /etc/hostname should not contain the FQDN, it could contain more than 1 hostname segment, with the rest of the FQDN being in /etc/hosts for example |
| 00:50.23 | tzarc | *nod* |
| 00:50.27 | tzarc | try it and see? |
| 00:50.39 | monkeyhybrid | hehe, yep, I guess I should do that :) |
| 00:50.49 | nsadmin | you'll want to practice reading reference docs (this is a skill you gain, you're not expected to know how right away)... you'll want to get familiar with your shell, and you'll want to get familiar with a debian directory structure (just cd to places and see what's in there with ls) |
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| 00:52.45 | ubd | can you tell me an exteremely light web browser, which can show pics etc. |
| 00:53.12 | nopf | ubd: links2 maybe |
| 00:55.18 | ubd | it doesnt have pictures! :( |
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| 00:56.22 | jagginess | ubd, lightweight? |
| 00:56.30 | ubd | yeah very |
| 00:56.59 | jagginess | ubd, like lynx or w3m ? |
| 00:57.02 | ubd | i have 10mb ram avaiable for it |
| 00:57.14 | jagginess | ubd, elinks not sure if it does pic (w3m+w3m-img does pics) |
| 00:57.35 | ubd | i am using lynx, but it doesnt show pictures |
| 00:57.48 | jagginess | ubd, try w3m with the suggest w3m-img package |
| 00:57.58 | jagginess | ubd, but it doesnt always work for everybody |
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| 01:00.35 | rainfyre | midori |
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| 01:12.32 | tintin | Anyone there? |
| 01:13.03 | tintin | What does it mean by this? input: Power Button as /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXPWRBN:00/input/input4 |
| 01:13.09 | tintin | from /var/log/messages |
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| 01:14.55 | tintin | Also got this, ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK0] (IRQs 3 4 5 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled |
| 01:14.58 | tintin | What does it mean? |
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| 01:16.24 | tintin | "ACPI: If an ACPI driver is available for this device, you should use it insead of the native driver " what does that mean? |
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| 01:17.43 | LtL | tintin: I would'nt worry about it, the same info is probably in dmesg as well. |
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| 01:18.09 | LtL | tintin: laptop? |
| 01:18.13 | tintin | desktop |
| 01:18.23 | tintin | Is there any problem if i run 'init 0' as root? |
| 01:18.56 | nsadmin | to turn it off? just run halt... or reboot |
| 01:19.07 | tintin | What's wrong with init 0 |
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| 01:19.30 | nsadmin | that's more internal |
| 01:19.43 | nsadmin | why, what's telling you to run init 0? |
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| 01:20.17 | tintin | init 0 equals halt , i think |
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| 01:20.26 | abrotman | tintin: you can use 'init 0' if you like |
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| 01:23.26 | fezziwig | Hello! Having some trouble on my Debian server... need to get my server to support command line Zip, but having trouble installing zip & unzip! Tried apt-get update and upgrade, but still, apt-get install zip unzip yields an error... |
| 01:23.35 | fezziwig | Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/z/zip/zip_2.32-1_i386.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 64.50.233.100 80] |
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| 01:24.13 | abrotman | judd: versions zip |
| 01:24.15 | judd | Package: zip on i386 -- lenny: 2.32-1; squeeze: 3.0-3; sid: 3.0-6; wheezy: 3.0-6 |
| 01:24.30 | abrotman | !tell fezziwig about lenny sources.list |
| 01:24.33 | vacuous | I have vertical splits in irssi |
| 01:24.34 | vacuous | :) |
| 01:24.44 | fezziwig | yes, tell me! |
| 01:24.59 | abrotman | the bot told you |
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| 01:30.15 | neglesaks | Tell me, in positive terms, the first words that come to mind about.... Wheezy? |
| 01:30.23 | neglesaks | I'll tell you about WHeezy! |
| 01:30.31 | nsadmin | cold, cough, flu |
| 01:30.49 | nsadmin | old person |
| 01:30.53 | vacuous | nsadmin, thanks for the help before |
| 01:30.55 | xreal | Hmm. I've installed Fluxbox with XDM on Ubunutu und Debian. I then want to run rDesktop to connect to a Windows client via RDP. The X-server seems to be started by another user than the current user, so I can't access the desktop. When uninstalling XDM, everything works... Any idea? |
| 01:30.55 | vacuous | I found the problem |
| 01:31.07 | nsadmin | vacuous, how's it turn out? |
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| 01:31.37 | vacuous | I've done what I wanted to do, there was a few issues; urxvt has a daemon you can run but for urxvc to run |
| 01:32.04 | vacuous | the daaemon needs to be running, but I found a command for that, xresources I needed to change to get elinks working and there was nothing on google for that |
| 01:32.16 | vacuous | xsession wouldn't work because gdm screwed it up (so I uninstalled gdm) |
| 01:33.11 | vacuous | I couldn't get any other scripts to work properly for some reason, but I've achieved what I wanted |
| 01:33.37 | vacuous | http://pastebin.com/MufWnZeP |
| 01:33.38 | vacuous | with that |
| 01:34.08 | nsadmin | vacuous, themill and I were talking about this, and we did a deep dive to see how .xsession is invoked... if .xsession has execute perms, run it as .xsession... if not, run it as sh .xsession |
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| 01:34.48 | vacuous | oh, well it all works now |
| 01:34.51 | nsadmin | it is not sourced as I thought it might be; they must have changed that some years back |
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| 01:35.06 | vacuous | I just didn't know of the urxvtcd command |
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| 01:35.21 | prawnsalad | hey guys. just wondering if upstart is default in debian? |
| 01:35.27 | vacuous | and every script I found on google doesn't seem to work, dunno why |
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| 01:35.56 | vacuous | this works fine though, then I just stuck startx in .bash_profile :) |
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| 01:37.24 | abrotman | prawnsalad: no |
| 01:37.36 | nsadmin | so, for you that means... you can leave .xsession without +x, but then, it has to be an "sh" scriot... if you want otherwise, you must make it executable and give it a #! followed by the fully qualified path to the interpreter you want |
| 01:37.50 | prawnsalad | abrotman: ok, thanks |
| 01:38.26 | vacuous | I see, I think |
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| 01:40.53 | nsadmin | it's because the global xsession (/etc/X11/Xsession) which sources all files in /etc/X11/Xsession.d, one of which checks your .xsession to see if it's executable |
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| 01:44.33 | ReApply | Hello all I am using debian net install and had to exit into shell to enable some routing+ special nic config I did this via /etc/network/interfaces but the installer doesn't have /etc/init.d/networking or service network so I can't apply the file is there any other method of applying the /etc/network/interfaces file? |
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| 01:46.26 | dvs | ReApply: ifdown <intf>; ifup <intf> |
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| 01:46.35 | walshbot | walshbot...dude...welcome back! |
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| 01:46.52 | walshbot | dreamon...dude...welcome back! |
| 01:46.54 | ReApply | /bin/sh :ifdown: not found |
| 01:46.55 | walshbot | ¿Public que? |
| 01:47.04 | walshbot | ¿Public que? |
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| 01:47.52 | abrotman | ahem ... |
| 01:47.57 | abrotman | ReApply: as root ? |
| 01:48.44 | ReApply | I am in the text based installer, I exited to shell |
| 01:48.54 | ReApply | it has no user@ or whoami or sudo or su |
| 01:49.12 | nsadmin | and sudo can get you to run stuff as root... but its performance is spotty, so just su - |
| 01:49.34 | ReApply | theres no sudo or su |
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| 01:49.44 | nsadmin | oh never mind, you are root |
| 01:50.09 | nsadmin | there's nothing else for you to be at the moment :) |
| 01:50.19 | ReApply | its the net install so i don't have much commands |
| 01:50.47 | ReApply | the interface file was created when I setup via the gui but I needed to do some extra configs to get it to work |
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| 01:50.53 | abrotman | or they're not in your path ? |
| 01:51.14 | nsadmin | we should ask him to tell us his path |
| 01:51.27 | ReApply | echo'ed $PATH and /sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin |
| 01:51.32 | nsadmin | or at least look at it |
| 01:51.42 | ReApply | yeah I looked when you mentioned it |
| 01:51.44 | nsadmin | that sounds good |
| 01:51.55 | ReApply | i ls'ed some of those paths |
| 01:52.01 | ReApply | not much there just a few |
| 01:52.07 | ReApply | it doesn't have ifconfig or inet either :/ |
| 01:52.21 | nsadmin | that stuff would have been loaded into a ramdisk |
| 01:52.58 | nsadmin | well ifconfig is in the busybox |
| 01:53.20 | ReApply | shall i try busybox ifconfig ? |
| 01:53.27 | nsadmin | try just ifconfig |
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| 01:53.38 | abrotman | or ip |
| 01:53.40 | ReApply | not found :( |
| 01:53.43 | ReApply | ah ip may work |
| 01:53.46 | sney | yeah, ip will work |
| 01:53.57 | nsadmin | this is wheezy netinstall |
| 01:53.58 | nsadmin | ? |
| 01:54.20 | ReApply | im no good with the codenames all i know is its debian 6 |
| 01:54.33 | sney | that's squeeze |
| 01:54.44 | nsadmin | oh, squeeze. (and if you're interested, /msg dpkg codenames) |
| 01:55.16 | ReApply | offtopic but i love andriod code names aka ice scream sandich |
| 01:55.36 | nsadmin | I'm running froyo |
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| 01:56.38 | jagginess | debian 6 he says.. hey codename that somebody please! |
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| 01:56.55 | jagginess | ReApply, well it sure aint vista aint it |
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| 01:59.25 | genesis | yes debian 6 , windows 8 |
| 02:00.54 | bolt | is it safe to comment out all six invocations of getty in inittab? it's an embedded system that has no way of connecting a monitor, so i don't see a reason to run them |
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| 02:01.17 | bolt | login is done through ssh |
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| 02:02.48 | meyou | how difficult is it to add/modify the drivers in a debian iso preinstall |
| 02:03.52 | meyou | my onboard realtek 8168 nic isn't working with the netinstall. it finds my nic but doesn't pull dhcp. i tried ubuntu livecd also and it finds the nic but shows media disconnected when it's not |
| 02:03.55 | sney | meyou, to modify drivers you would need to modify the installer kernel, and that could be annoying. but if you are looking for network support, you probably only need to modify the firmware. and that's easy. |
| 02:04.17 | meyou | firmware? |
| 02:04.19 | sney | in fact, there are already some netinstall images with better network adapter support than the standard one |
| 02:04.20 | meyou | like on the iso or? |
| 02:04.26 | sney | !kmuto |
| 02:04.26 | dpkg | Unofficial images for installing Debian Squeeze/6.0 using a later kernel (currently Linux 3.2.4) are available from http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ (images are on the CD mirrors). To supply additional firmware, ask me about <installer firmware>. For a USB install, use the lenny instructions: http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 |
| 02:04.53 | meyou | so just the custome one |
| 02:04.56 | genesis | bolt : no you can do that |
| 02:04.58 | meyou | on that page? |
| 02:05.15 | bolt | genesis: no it's not safe, or no it's safe? :) |
| 02:05.16 | sney | meyou, yes, I believe there is one near the top that says it includes firmware files |
| 02:05.20 | genesis | it's safe |
| 02:05.24 | bolt | awesome |
| 02:05.38 | meyou | hmm k, i was using lili to make a bootable usb stick for it |
| 02:05.57 | meyou | is the usb image from there used in a diff way? |
| 02:06.11 | sney | meyou, the debian netinstall is a hybrid iso, it can be written directly to a usb stick without any special software |
| 02:06.19 | meyou | ah k |
| 02:06.20 | genesis | bolt : openembedded is really good stuff if you're involve in embedded system and linux |
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| 02:07.09 | genesis | that's a bit as a debian-like build by a gentoo-like build system |
| 02:07.26 | bolt | genesis: thanks for the tip. i'll check it out :) |
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| 02:08.09 | jagginess | meyou, cat debian.iso > /dev/USBDRIVE (USBDRIVE has to be substituted for the real drive, also your usbdrive will be wiped out) |
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| 02:09.57 | nsadmin | completely wiped, if you have partitions you won't anymore, that writes right over the partition table |
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| 02:11.36 | nsadmin | debian has borrowed a lot over the years, not the least of which from slackware, its packaging system |
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| 02:14.35 | abrotman | what? |
| 02:14.42 | damaxus | yeah.. |
| 02:15.01 | damaxus | if they borrowed it, it must've been a very basic something |
| 02:15.27 | abrotman | Ah, just another saturday night, making stuff up ... |
| 02:15.54 | nsadmin | maybe you should check before you go off half cocked |
| 02:16.35 | abrotman | have you used slackware? |
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| 02:16.42 | nsadmin | yep |
| 02:17.20 | abrotman | Last I knew, they didn't have anything to track deps .. not exactly something Debian stole .. but thanks for pretending |
| 02:18.08 | nsadmin | right, they didbn't track deps... but they did have {post,pre}{inst,rm} |
| 02:18.21 | abrotman | and if oyu're pretending that a tarball with some associated metadata was something revolutionary, you're crediting the wrong people |
| 02:18.27 | abrotman | by quite a bit |
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| 02:22.33 | abrotman | waits for the revolutionary bit that nsadmin claims to know about |
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| 02:43.32 | knob | Where are the crontabs for each user located? |
| 02:43.40 | knob | I can't find exactly that via google =\ |
| 02:44.31 | knob | got it... /var/spool/cron/crontabs |
| 02:44.33 | knob | thanks =) |
| 02:44.54 | dvs | er... yw? |
| 02:45.01 | holaeo | Due to wrongly specifying dirs in rsync, now I have two dirs /var/www/www and /var/www. under Dolphin, I have no means to rename /var/www/www to /var/www. When I tr to use the mv command under CLI, it says "mv: `/var/www/www' and `/var/www/www' are the same file". how to solve this? |
| 02:45.51 | knob | Ok, and where would the log files for a user's crontab be located? |
| 02:46.02 | knob | I don't know why... a crontab that was running before isn't now. |
| 02:46.21 | damaxus | stdout is emailed to the user |
| 02:46.21 | knob | I did copy a backup script over the original one, and I set the permissions to permit execute... yet still doesn't want to run. |
| 02:46.36 | holaeo | log files should be in /var/log |
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| 02:46.44 | knob | ok... on my way over tehre |
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| 02:48.44 | knob | Ok, I messed up something. If I run the script as ./script.sh it runs, and I can see the output on the terminal. |
| 02:48.53 | knob | Yet the cron, every 15 minutes... nothing happens. |
| 02:48.57 | knob | Any thoughts on what I can check? |
| 02:49.05 | jagginess | knob, check cron? |
| 02:49.08 | jagginess | lol |
| 02:49.10 | sney | make sure your script has full paths |
| 02:52.37 | knob | still checking... |
| 02:53.01 | knob | the crontab file states */15 * * * * /home/user/script.sh > /dev/null 2>&1 |
| 02:53.22 | knob | yet this started 1 hour ago, when I copied a backup script over the script.sh |
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| 02:55.55 | knob | I just did a ... |
| 02:55.59 | knob | chmod 655 |
| 02:56.00 | knob | hmm |
| 02:56.18 | simonlnu | so you fix it? |
| 02:56.24 | LtL | knob: make it 755 |
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| 02:56.39 | knob | question: The ORIGINALscript.sh was done under ipcam account. I deleted that one, and copied the BACKUPscript.sh under root. Would that explain why it wasn't running? |
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| 02:56.50 | knob | Not sure if I fixed it... will find out in 3 minutes time |
| 02:56.50 | knob | =) |
| 02:57.03 | knob | chmod 755 |
| 02:57.04 | knob | got it |
| 02:57.23 | simonlnu | 655 means group and other can execute it (and read it) but owner has read/write |
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| 03:00.23 | knob | YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 03:00.39 | knob | That was it! w00h00! Big pleasure in figuring out. Thanks everyone =) |
| 03:00.53 | holaeo | ok, fixed my problem, with a series of mv commands. |
| 03:00.57 | knob | It was that originally I did that script under a user... and now I copied the new one under root. |
| 03:01.00 | knob | FTFW! |
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| 03:07.15 | cowzz | hi |
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| 03:07.21 | ubd | hello |
| 03:07.43 | cowzz | got a bash question :/ |
| 03:07.50 | ubd | yeah me to |
| 03:08.40 | cowzz | while read line; do if [[ $line =~ \bthing ]]; then echo $line; fi; done < file <-- why doesn't that match for thing at start of line :( |
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| 03:09.38 | cowzz | erm not start of line, start of word ;) |
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| 03:10.36 | ubd | cowzz: can you tell me if its possible to use the terminal after i open an application. i am having a terminal windows for every thing i run |
| 03:11.03 | cowzz | yeah, run appname & |
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| 03:11.54 | cowzz | like ---- xclock & |
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| 03:12.03 | ubd | wow cool |
| 03:13.11 | cowzz | glad it worked :P |
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| 03:14.48 | criqut | hello |
| 03:15.06 | ubd | ok another one. in order to kill xorg. i open top, F, n then read the pid so kill it. is there a shorter way (using the kill command) |
| 03:15.41 | criqut | I would like to know how the memory management in linux works. Could anyone recommend me any links to good articles about that, please? |
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| 03:17.54 | criqut | I mean memory usage from the low-level point of view |
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| 03:34.13 | EasyAsPie | hi |
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| 03:36.48 | LtL | hi EasyAsPie |
| 03:36.58 | EasyAsPie | hi LtL |
| 03:36.59 | EasyAsPie | how r u |
| 03:37.10 | LtL | EasyAsPie: fine thanks |
| 03:37.34 | EasyAsPie | im lonely |
| 03:37.39 | EasyAsPie | thought i'd come here to chat |
| 03:38.13 | LtL | EasyAsPie: its not really a 'chat' channel i'm afraid |
| 03:38.30 | EasyAsPie | oh |
| 03:38.32 | EasyAsPie | :| |
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| 03:39.43 | dvs | !off-topic |
| 03:39.43 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 03:39.48 | dvs | !offtopic |
| 03:39.48 | dvs | oh c'mon! |
| 03:39.48 | dvs | There's #debian-offtopic for casual chat |
| 03:39.49 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
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| 04:08.43 | Ken-Young | I am trying to build a .deb, but I don't have dh_make . I've installed debhelper and build-essential, but still have no dh_make. apt-get install dh_make finds nothing. Does anyone know what I need to do to get dh_make? |
| 04:12.13 | Rusty1 | Ken-Young: try dh-make , - not _ |
| 04:13.33 | Ken-Young | Rusty1, I then get "E: Package dh-make has no installation candidate.". |
| 04:15.08 | Ken-Young | Rusty1, oh, I was able to install dh-make. Thanks! |
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| 04:15.59 | Ken-Young | Rusty1, Why is the package called dh-make? Are underscores illegal in package names? |
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| 04:30.00 | doom_ | Hello everyone How do I install wine 1.4 in squeeze? |
| 04:30.04 | ubd | how can i have the copy paste functionality on my desktop |
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| 04:32.34 | Rusty1 | doom_: there is a #winehq channel if nobody here can help |
| 04:32.41 | nsadmin | ubd, aptitude install gpm (and then practice) |
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| 04:35.20 | doom_ | I had not thought excuse :) thanks |
| 04:35.28 | jagginess | lol.. i think he said desktop |
| 04:35.39 | jagginess | ubd, you mean from Terminal like gnome terminal to the desktop ? |
| 04:35.47 | LtL | geez i copy/paste all over the place, doesnt everybody |
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| 04:36.23 | jagginess | ubd, i use xclip when in X, (gpm is for plaintext , tty1-tty6) |
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| 04:36.39 | jagginess | if ya know what i mean |
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| 04:53.03 | alusion | I'm downloading packages through synaptic atm, and came upon the task-polish / task-persian / task-spanish-desktop etc |
| 04:53.06 | alusion | what are these? |
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| 04:57.35 | tintin | What's the difference between glib and glib2 ? |
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| 05:40.23 | mikekraft | is http://forums.debian.net the official support forum? seems quite dead. |
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| 05:50.46 | fezziwig | Hi, I just upgraded my web server to squeeze, but now, for some reason, it is no longer serving... it's just forcing a download of the main php file of the site.... ideas? |
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| 05:53.39 | cloudy | Can anybody tell me when Wheezy will release, next year or in 2014? |
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| 05:55.31 | jagginess | cloudy, 2015 |
| 05:56.09 | jagginess | cloudy, conky .. i heard it's good |
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| 05:57.17 | cloudy | Thank you, jagginess! |
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| 06:00.07 | cloudy | But I have googled that: "Debian 7.0 Wheezy is scheduled for release in early 2013. Debian 8.0 Jessie should be out around 2015." |
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| 06:03.01 | dizzylizzy | i love you debian |
| 06:03.03 | dizzylizzy | thank you for being awesome |
| 06:03.07 | dizzylizzy | and thank you, community, for being awesome |
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| 06:05.54 | somiaj | cloudy: you actually have 4 cpus in a laptop? Sure it isn't just four cores? |
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| 06:09.25 | cloudy | Sorry, there are four cores in my Computer! |
| 06:11.04 | somiaj | so yea only one cpu, hence only one sensor |
| 06:11.12 | somiaj | well measurement |
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| 06:29.03 | dthree | Hi i have a question, ive created a vpn with pptpsetup, and i ve pased the parameter --start and connect well, now i want to connect again to the created vpn, but the problem is that i cant connect with pptp vpn |
| 06:29.13 | dthree | error: anon fatal[get_ip_address:pptp.c:437]: getaddrinfo(): No address associated with hostname |
| 06:29.29 | dthree | some ideas? |
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| 06:30.04 | simonlnu | that means there's no ip associated with that dns name |
| 06:31.34 | dthree | mm and how it the steps for connect to a vpn created with pptpsetup? |
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| 06:32.18 | dthree | pptpsetup has been created a file in /etc/ppp/peers with the configuration, do you know how connect using this configuration simonlnu? |
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| 06:32.45 | simonlnu | no, i just know what that msg means |
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| 06:33.28 | dthree | ready :p i see the problem |
| 06:33.37 | bazhang | ##networking dthree |
| 06:33.43 | dthree | for conect to this vpn i need use pon not pptp |
| 06:34.24 | dthree | bazhang: i will joint to this channel for future question, thanks :D |
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| 06:49.12 | dzup | here is |
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| 07:03.24 | dsdeiz | hi what's the irc channel for gaming in debian? |
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| 07:04.47 | sney | for i in *.tar;do tar xf $i;done |
| 07:04.53 | sney | modify for your purposes |
| 07:04.54 | afidegnum | they are .gz files |
| 07:06.41 | afidegnum | sney: they are .gz files not .tar |
| 07:07.22 | sney | afidegnum, that's why I said "modify for your purposes". I'm sure you can figure out how to change that to apply to .tar.gz instead of .tar |
| 07:07.40 | afidegnum | ok |
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| 07:14.10 | bluesm | What would be the fastest gui, text editor. |
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| 07:14.29 | bluesm | I mean to fast review. |
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| 07:20.57 | jagginess | bluesm, pencil and paper |
| 07:21.09 | pato83 | bluesm: Less resources it use, quicker it should be. So in that case, nano should do a good job. But there many many more more or less known. Why dont you try it, because your question is more about personal preferences (in way of using it, i.e. how familiar or how much you want to learn or adjust key shortcuts) at the end. |
| 07:21.20 | jagginess | just put the paper in the pocket.. and swipe it out in 2 seconds anytime anywhere |
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| 07:22.48 | pato83 | bluesm: or generally how much you get of an editore of its capabilities to make your life easier. |
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| 07:23.25 | bluesm | pato83: I want have two gui editors - one for quick review on for development. |
| 07:24.01 | bluesm | pato83: nano is not gui :] |
| 07:24.28 | pato83 | bluesm: it is not, but also i can not read your mind yet. :) |
| 07:25.14 | bluesm | pato83: What do you mean ? |
| 07:25.31 | pato83 | bluesm: it is quicker to press key shortcuts than get through the menu down to the option you need. |
| 07:26.00 | bluesm | pato83: Right... So ? |
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| 07:28.34 | pato83 | bluesm: So I would say it may be rather about composition than choosing new editor. Just use whatever editor you are familier and that is it. I use nano and less . That is more than enough. :) |
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| 07:29.58 | chrish_ | Hello, I seem to be having bad issues with formatting my USB on Debian. I've tried to create a new partition table, which is successful (using GParted) but then when I try to format it as FAT32, only the hfs option is allowed. |
| 07:30.30 | chrish_ | Not even Windows can format it, and it seems to be corrupted, what should I do? |
| 07:30.49 | bluesm | pato83: Ok than you very much :) |
| 07:32.09 | pato83 | bluesm: well I am afraid I didnt help very much. :) |
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| 07:49.21 | bluesm | Where in debian is the standard input output stream, which i can modify ? |
| 07:49.39 | bluesm | Say, to pass c++ program bunch of data. ? |
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| 07:51.44 | aabel | hi gnome shell is crazy |
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| 07:52.18 | aabel | it keeps no setting change |
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| 07:54.02 | EmleyMoor | aabel: On what release of Debian, and what happens? |
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| 07:56.49 | aabel | I'm in debian wheezy, my gnome is in restricted mode even if my direct rendering is yes |
| 07:57.20 | aabel | and it keeps none of my setting changes as time and automatic log |
| 07:58.27 | bluesm | ? |
| 08:00.16 | aabel | I tried to set time in "network mode" and it doesn't keep that setting, when I come back it's still manual |
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| 08:09.00 | aabel | no idea for fixing gnome shell on wheezy ? |
| 08:09.29 | bluesm | How to provide g++ default input ? |
| 08:09.37 | bluesm | "standard input" i mean ? |
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| 08:43.46 | muhoo | whew, thta's been a hell of a ride. but, DONE: brand new asus q400a i7 laptop, with ssd drive, running wheezy. everything works, wifi, backlight, keyboard backlight, ethernet, etc. |
| 08:44.26 | xreal | Hmm. I've installed Fluxbox with XDM on Ubunutu und Debian. I then want to run rDesktop to connect to a Windows client via RDP. The X-server seems to be started by another user than the current user, so I can't access the desktop. When uninstalling XDM, everything works... Any idea? |
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| 09:05.24 | rainfyre | hey all. I just changed from a gnome desktop environment to a xfce de. I've been using compiz and just changed to metacity and window manager and window manager tweaks won't open |
| 09:05.54 | rainfyre | I changed the default compositing manager to metacity with gconf-editor, and I turned off compiz in session and startup |
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| 09:30.00 | fairway | when I set up a site with ssl + apache2 + apache2_modssl I always get a htaccess windows saying "SSL Access" promting for username and password |
| 09:30.11 | fairway | "HTTPS Access" actualy |
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| 09:30.52 | voyager2 | is there a way to install linux on virtual hdd image ? |
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| 09:52.46 | vacuous | I just put it in bash_profile but I don't know if that's the best way |
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| 09:55.42 | vacuous | voyager2, yes |
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| 09:56.29 | wathek | I got a question about the Amarok package in the repo the version is 2.6~beta1+75.g47e75df-1 |
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| 09:56.38 | wathek | and in the amarok about window it's 2.5 GIT |
| 09:56.51 | wathek | isn't that weird ? |
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| 10:07.49 | voyager2 | @wathek no :/ |
| 10:08.09 | voyager2 | its beta . of 2.5 :D |
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| 10:09.37 | intore | hi, am still trying to resolve a question on a virtual lan (VirtualBox) with 2 ubuntu clients (10.1.2.3 and 10.1.2.4), a virtual bridge (10.1.2.1), a server with two network interfaces (10.1.2.2 and 10.1.1.2), another virtual bridge (10.1.1.1) and the router (192.168.1.1). The clients can't go on internet and can't ping the router. Could you help me? |
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| 10:11.17 | specing | intore: why are you using virtualbox? |
| 10:11.26 | specing | Its sun crap, like java. |
| 10:11.38 | voyager2 | im not sure but virtual machines first connects to host (windows /linus ) then router then net :/ |
| 10:11.39 | wathek | voyager2, I don't understand Amarok 2.6 has been released |
| 10:11.46 | wathek | voyager2, so why having a beta version ? |
| 10:12.18 | intore | specing, is it bad? |
| 10:12.39 | voyager2 | @wathek might be old one . or it might be alpha side beta :D |
| 10:12.50 | specing | intore: use Qemu |
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| 10:13.11 | Trewas | wathek: 2.6 is in unstable, hopefully it will still go to testing before release |
| 10:13.12 | specing | also you probably forgot to up some interfaces |
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| 10:14.52 | intore | specing, i'll do it, thanks! But i'd like to understand and resolve my problem before. Every interface is up. |
| 10:15.50 | intore | after enabled ip forward, as suggest by ChrisH, i can ping the second virtual bridge but still not the router |
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| 10:17.18 | voyager2 | qemu is better to use and configure :P and there is not much speed difference :/ |
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| 10:18.34 | intore | thank you voyager2. I'll install it after resolving this problem |
| 10:18.38 | specing | intore: If you are serious about running servers then you should look at Xen |
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| 10:19.37 | blubberdiblub | or kvm |
| 10:21.00 | intore | specing, you mean to use it with virtualbox to check the virtual machine? |
| 10:21.16 | specing | intore: Xen is a hypervisor |
| 10:21.24 | specing | intore: virtualbox is Sun's crap |
| 10:21.30 | specing | note the difference |
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| 10:22.07 | intore | specing, ok, so what do you suggest? |
| 10:22.09 | vacuous | virtualbox isn't too bad for what it is |
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| 10:22.32 | vacuous | vmware if you don't want to install a hypervisor |
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| 10:23.37 | vacuous | specing, any proof it's crap? |
| 10:23.44 | vacuous | or just bandwaggony nonsense ;p |
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| 10:24.39 | intore | am sorry guys, am not understarding your suggestions. Using an hypervisor could i find the problem? |
| 10:24.44 | vacuous | you have to compare like for like, virtualbox isn't bad if you cannot use a hypervisor (they're no good if you play games for example) |
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| 10:25.39 | vacuous | intore, there should be different network settings in virtualbox itself |
| 10:26.03 | vacuous | it's been a while since I used it, but when you power off the machine there should be things like bridged mode, use the host ip etc |
| 10:26.06 | vacuous | have you tried them? |
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| 10:26.41 | intore | vacuous, yes, my virtual interfaces are bridged |
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| 10:27.23 | vacuous | have you tried different modes just as a means to check if you can get the internet to work at all on them? |
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| 10:29.13 | intore | vacuous, initially i had nat for everyone and i can connect on internet |
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| 10:29.51 | intore | vacuous, i think the problem is about the virtual lan but i don't know what |
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| 10:30.32 | vacuous | it's been so long since I've used it, you might be best to go to a channel relating to virtualbox itself |
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| 10:30.45 | unrar | Hi |
| 10:30.53 | intore | vacuous, maybe yes |
| 10:30.54 | unrar | Which Debian do you recommend me, Squeeze or Wheezy? |
| 10:31.13 | KittyGirl | unrar: Wheezy |
| 10:31.16 | unrar | I have no experience with "pure debian", just with Ubuntu, Mint and LMDE |
| 10:31.30 | unrar | And it's like Arch, do you have to install the DE by yourself or what? |
| 10:31.31 | KittyGirl | I use Wheezy and it works jsut as good as Debian |
| 10:31.37 | vacuous | o.o |
| 10:31.45 | KittyGirl | unrar: Do you have a second machine? |
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| 10:31.50 | KittyGirl | or a partition? |
| 10:32.00 | unrar | Nope, I have dual boot with Kubuntu and Mint at the moment |
| 10:32.07 | KittyGirl | You should try a debian install out first |
| 10:32.07 | unrar | but I have virtual machines for testing |
| 10:32.14 | KittyGirl | Wheezy |
| 10:32.30 | KittyGirl | unrar: If you need help you can PM me. |
| 10:32.30 | unrar | But I mean, the installation process is like Arch or it's not so KISS? |
| 10:32.40 | KittyGirl | I don't know. |
| 10:32.46 | KittyGirl | it is easy tho |
| 10:32.49 | KittyGirl | very easy |
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| 10:32.51 | unrar | There's installer then |
| 10:32.56 | KittyGirl | yes |
| 10:33.00 | KittyGirl | there is an installer |
| 10:33.04 | unrar | In Arch you have to install all by yourself by CLI haha |
| 10:33.08 | rainfyre | much wasier than arch |
| 10:33.12 | rainfyre | *easier |
| 10:33.14 | unrar | And you have any DE installed by default? |
| 10:33.17 | KittyGirl | unrar: Same with Debian |
| 10:33.22 | KittyGirl | or you can use the GUI |
| 10:33.27 | KittyGirl | it somes with s GUI |
| 10:33.30 | unrar | I meant the install process |
| 10:33.33 | KittyGirl | CLI is obviously faster |
| 10:33.46 | KittyGirl | unrar: I know what you meant |
| 10:33.56 | rainfyre | the cliinstall in debian is quite a bit simpler than the cli install in Arch though |
| 10:33.59 | unrar | Oh I missread sorry haha |
| 10:34.03 | KittyGirl | you can select to have a desktop or not |
| 10:34.13 | boudiccas | unrar, currently the default DE is gnome, but at some stage in the future it may well move to XFCE |
| 10:34.16 | unrar | And what DEs come by default? |
| 10:34.20 | unrar | Wheezy is still on GNOME 2? |
| 10:34.27 | KittyGirl | unrar: gnome |
| 10:34.28 | KittyGirl | yes |
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| 10:34.32 | unrar | Oh that's good :P |
| 10:34.41 | boudiccas | unrar, gnome3 |
| 10:34.49 | KittyGirl | boudiccas: Since when?! |
| 10:34.49 | unrar | oh, that's bad |
| 10:34.53 | KittyGirl | oh gosh |
| 10:35.02 | KittyGirl | unrar: Use squeeze |
| 10:35.08 | KittyGirl | that comes with gnome2 |
| 10:35.13 | boudiccas | KittyGirl, since ever. i've been using it 3 months and its been all that time |
| 10:35.17 | themill | would appreciate it if KittyGirl didn't pretend to know things she doesn't |
| 10:35.26 | KittyGirl | ... |
| 10:35.27 | unrar | boudiccas, and GNOME 2 is still on wheezy repos? |
| 10:35.38 | boudiccas | unrar, no |
| 10:35.40 | KittyGirl | themill: Dafuq?! |
| 10:35.42 | KittyGirl | I've used it |
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| 10:35.47 | unrar | ow |
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| 10:35.59 | unrar | Well, I'll install MATE, it's good |
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| 10:36.03 | rainfyre | gnome 2 is still supported with wheezy? |
| 10:36.11 | themill | KittyGirl: we've had this discussion before. Please stop giving "definitive" and very wrong answers. |
| 10:36.21 | boudiccas | rainfyre, no, it upgrades to gnome3 |
| 10:36.22 | unrar | I've been messing a bit with LMDE, and it's very odd, they have update packs or something |
| 10:36.33 | rainfyre | boudiccas: thank you |
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| 10:38.36 | Guest23462 | unrar: Why don't you use Squeeze? It's stable. It got native Gnome2.3~ without MATE. |
| 10:38.37 | unrar | I can't understand LMDE, it has a "Latest" repo, which have the Testing packages tested by the developers, and then "Incoming" which is Debian testing |
| 10:38.39 | unrar | I cna't understand haha |
| 10:38.52 | unrar | I'm downloading it Guest23462 |
| 10:38.58 | vacuous | use the latest stable release in my opinion |
| 10:39.30 | unrar | But i never liked "pure debian"... dunno why |
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| 10:40.06 | Guest23462 | Because it just work? So you got bored and start breaking it up? :) |
| 10:40.10 | unrar | But Wheezy is frozen now? |
| 10:40.18 | boudiccas | yes |
| 10:40.27 | unrar | Then GNOME 2 won't be avaliable for much time |
| 10:40.35 | boudiccas | no |
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| 10:42.05 | boudiccas | unrar, i dont think that MATE is available for wheezy, leastways it wasn't when i last looked |
| 10:42.27 | unrar | no, but you can add MATE's repo |
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| 10:42.44 | unrar | i guess |
| 10:43.05 | boudiccas | don't think thats possible, yet! :) |
| 10:43.23 | themill | I wouldn't recommend going anywhere near their incredibly poor quality packages |
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| 10:47.22 | TrIXx47 | n |
| 10:47.28 | TrIXx47 | sry |
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| 10:53.28 | Xtreme | Guys, is wine the best or is there anything else better then wine? |
| 10:53.52 | Zharf | for getting drunk or emulating windows? |
| 10:54.20 | Xtreme | lol emulating windows |
| 10:54.31 | GNU\colossus | TINA |
| 10:54.35 | GNU\colossus | there is no alternative. |
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| 10:54.44 | GNU\colossus | (except for virtualization, whis ain't emulation) |
| 10:54.53 | Xtreme | GNU\colossus, tina? |
| 10:54.54 | GNU\colossus | (of an API/OS, for that matter) |
| 10:54.58 | Xtreme | aah okay |
| 10:55.05 | nkuttler | Xtreme: what are you trying to do? |
| 10:55.34 | Xtreme | nkuttler, teamviewer is sluggish.. and second i need to install android pc suite |
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| 11:03.54 | unrar | hmm |
| 11:04.00 | unrar | Why should I use Debian? |
| 11:04.23 | themill | dpkg: tell unrar about why debian |
| 11:04.25 | Maikel | just because |
| 11:04.37 | Maikel | it is stable |
| 11:04.43 | Maikel | you can trust it |
| 11:04.55 | Maikel | it does not treat you like a little child (like ubuntu) |
| 11:05.01 | Maikel | and it is OS |
| 11:05.26 | unrar | hahah |
| 11:05.31 | unrar | I like it then |
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| 11:05.40 | adc | whois unrar |
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| 11:05.56 | unrar | ... |
| 11:06.03 | Maikel | trol? |
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| 11:06.17 | unrar | Me? |
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| 11:06.31 | Maikel | dunno |
| 11:06.58 | unrar | No, I just have chaos on my mind and I don't know what to do with all my distributions |
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| 11:07.10 | unrar | Mint, LMDE, Debian, Fedora, CentOS... But I like this |
| 11:07.14 | unrar | <Maikel> it does not treat you like a little child (like ubuntu) |
| 11:07.23 | unrar | It's great to read haha |
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| 11:09.01 | Maikel | why? |
| 11:09.03 | Maikel | it is like this |
| 11:09.06 | Maikel | stupid sudo |
| 11:09.19 | Maikel | and no amazone adds! |
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| 11:12.50 | unrar | yes |
| 11:12.55 | unrar | Why stupid sudo? |
| 11:12.55 | unrar | :( |
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| 11:13.05 | unrar | there's no sudo on debian? |
| 11:13.18 | Maikel | yes, there's |
| 11:13.27 | themill | of course there is. it's a useful tool |
| 11:13.46 | Maikel | but not like ubuntu where you need to sudo everything or sudo su passwd |
| 11:13.56 | Maikel | but that's a matter of taste |
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| 11:14.17 | unrar | i hate ubuntu |
| 11:14.22 | unrar | but I like Mint and LMDE |
| 11:14.33 | themill | points towards #debian-offtopic |
| 11:14.36 | unrar | though LMDE is a bit odd, it has Update Packs or something |
| 11:14.45 | Maikel | oh this is not ontopic? |
| 11:15.00 | themill | this channel is for solving debian support questions |
| 11:15.16 | Maikel | K, I stfu |
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| 11:18.14 | Guest23462 | Interesting question. I installed gnome-core. Now I realized it installed iceweasel and other stuffs. How do I remove packages in the same way as if I tried it without recommends? |
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| 11:18.50 | Guest23462 | (Without removing packages all over again only to install it again without recommends) |
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| 11:19.38 | unrar | one question |
| 11:19.57 | unrar | if I have the Wheezy version, and then I change sources.list to Squeeze, will the packages downgrade to Squeeze's version? |
| 11:20.06 | Guest23462 | unrar: No. |
| 11:20.08 | blubberdiblub | Guest23462, if the packages in questions are really just recommends of other packages (and not depends), you should be able to just remove them |
| 11:20.26 | unrar | okay |
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| 11:20.46 | Guest23462 | unrar: Downgrading = No. Upgrading = Yes. You can do reinstall if you want to go back on Squeeze. |
| 11:20.48 | blubberdiblub | unrar, downgrading is not supported anyway. it might break your system in strange ways |
| 11:21.18 | Guest23462 | blubberdiblub: Yes, but how do I know which packages are from recommendations (of gnome-core)? |
| 11:21.50 | blubberdiblub | Guest23462, apt-cache depends gnome-core |
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| 11:22.30 | blubberdiblub | Guest23462, you may have to dig deeper, tho. since some packages that gnome-core depends on might actually be recommending the packages in question |
| 11:23.24 | Guest23462 | blubberdiblub: Hehe. Yes. |
| 11:23.45 | blubberdiblub | Guest23462, try "aptitude why iceweasel" |
| 11:25.39 | Guest23462 | blubberdiblub: No worries. I'm only testing Gnome3 right now. :) |
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| 11:29.48 | blubberdiblub | Guest23462, you could also use the aptitude ncurses gui, so you could interactively browse the packages and research what depends/recommends/suggests what |
| 11:29.56 | e66 | what does "0.0.0.0 localhost.lan group1.localhost.lan group2.localhost.lan" in /etc/host mean? |
| 11:30.17 | ceil | i didn't know there was an ncurses apt :o |
| 11:30.35 | ceil | here i was installing Synaptic every once in a while when I need to browse packages... |
| 11:30.42 | blubberdiblub | ceil, aptitude has an ncurses gui, in addition to it's cli interface. apt-get doesn't |
| 11:30.46 | ceil | ah |
| 11:31.10 | ceil | i do mainly use apt-get (dunno why), but i could start using aptitude nc :p |
| 11:31.13 | specing | e66: man hosts |
| 11:31.28 | ag4ve | curious, it seems i can't just do ifconfig eth0:0 up; ifconfig eth0:1 up; etc anymore? i have to bind tap interfaces to devices now? |
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| 11:36.48 | ag4ve | ceil: fwiw, use apt-get or aptitude, but i've been told that aptitude -> apt-get can corrupt the db |
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| 11:37.00 | e66 | specing: I know what hosts file do |
| 11:37.09 | e66 | It maps names to IP |
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| 11:37.22 | e66 | I was wondering what does 0.0.0.0 mean here. |
| 11:37.26 | e66 | Now I got my answer. |
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| 11:37.42 | e66 | It means it matches all the ip address assigned to this local machine |
| 11:37.57 | ag4ve | e66: 0.0.0.0 is everything, or nothing |
| 11:38.12 | e66 | why Nothing? |
| 11:38.24 | ag4ve | it is, for instance the ip your computer uses to sends out in a dhcp probe |
| 11:38.48 | ag4ve | because it is nothing - it's 32 x 0s |
| 11:40.10 | ag4ve | but your computer is asking the network for a dhcp server. so it's not routed (don't correct this), but every computer on your network sees it |
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| 11:41.18 | e66 | ag4ve: this entry takes effect immidiately and it just points to an IP address |
| 11:41.40 | e66 | if any interface has not ip yet. It will not be assigned to 0.0.0.0. |
| 11:41.51 | e66 | But if it has IP then 0.0.0.0 will point to it. |
| 11:43.02 | SiDz | how to remove an export |
| 11:43.43 | frikinz | e66: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5735#section-3 |
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| 11:44.42 | ag4ve | e66: if the packet type doesn't require an ip and that is what's used. the packet still needs those bytes in the packet but they are expected to be blank |
| 11:44.54 | ag4ve | and, yeah, i should've just pointed you there :) |
| 11:45.17 | e66 | do you know any command line tool that'll show me RFCs in text format? |
| 11:45.59 | themill | ,i doc-rfc |
| 11:46.02 | judd | Package doc-rfc (non-free/doc, optional) in squeeze/i386: RFC documents metapackage. Version: 20100731-1; Size: 8.0k; Installed: 28k; Homepage: http://www.rfc-editor.org/ |
| 11:46.04 | themill | e66: ^^ less |
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| 11:47.33 | EagleScreen | which architecture must I choose for an Airis Kira N7000 netbook? |
| 11:47.51 | e66 | themill: big pakcage 150M! |
| 11:48.28 | specing | EagleScreen: What architecture is it? |
| 11:48.45 | EagleScreen | arm |
| 11:49.10 | specing | Well what architecture do you need, then? |
| 11:49.14 | ag4ve | wow, i hat totally forgotten about half of those ip addresses and didn't know there were 3 test nets.... |
| 11:49.26 | specing | 4 actually |
| 11:49.35 | EagleScreen | armhf? |
| 11:49.42 | Gerben | Hello. Q => Do people here use some form of update/patch management? For CentOS ATM we have different copies of the full repo ( development, testing, production, and then some versions ), and use a homebrew script to point the servers to the correct version. This is working fine now for 1000 servers / 4 years, it is however terribly inefficient in disk space and not very elegant. I am setting up a new ~10 servers Debian network configure |
| 11:49.42 | Gerben | d using Puppet and wonder if there is a better way. |
| 11:50.25 | frikinz | e66: you can always use wget when you know the number: wget -qO - http://tools.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5735.txt | less |
| 11:50.44 | ag4ve | so, anyone know what happened to the eth0:0, eth1:3, etc syntax? |
| 11:50.46 | themill | EagleScreen: I'd guess armel rather than armhf, but I don't know what chipset it has |
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| 11:51.14 | e66 | frikinz: I dont want to type that much. I need to lookup RFPs very often |
| 11:51.15 | specing | Gerben: I have a couple of Gentoo boxes hooked to Puppet |
| 11:51.24 | Gerben | ag4ve, last time I tried (squeeze, last week) it worked fine. What are you trying? |
| 11:51.28 | specing | It is terribly inflexible, though |
| 11:51.43 | ag4ve | ifconfig eth0:0 up |
| 11:51.48 | Gerben | specing, what do you mean by that? |
| 11:51.53 | e66 | I am installing the RFC-doc. It'll take about 2 min. After that I hope to read it using a simple less command :D |
| 11:52.02 | EagleScreen | will test armel |
| 11:52.12 | Gerben | ag4ve, have you set an IP address ( ex: ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.1.1 up ) |
| 11:52.19 | ag4ve | SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address |
| 11:52.20 | specing | Gerben: puppet has a billion dependencies |
| 11:52.33 | specing | and AFAIK doesen't support chroot installs |
| 11:52.33 | ag4ve | should i have to? |
| 11:52.41 | specing | ag4ve: deprecated |
| 11:52.46 | specing | ag4ve: use iproute2 |
| 11:52.52 | frikinz | e66: then do a sh function |
| 11:52.57 | ag4ve | and tap, or what? |
| 11:53.01 | EagleScreen | if i choose the wrong arch, the installer should not run, is it? |
| 11:53.01 | Gerben | ah, learned something ( specing / ag4ve ) |
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| 11:53.28 | Agiofws | hello |
| 11:53.40 | e66 | frikinz: I can write it in C too. Why bother? Isn't it better to find existing solution first? |
| 11:53.51 | ag4ve | odd, it comes up when i give it an ip.... so it does work. |
| 11:54.07 | ag4ve | so where was it depreciated and what should i google for this? |
| 11:54.14 | ag4ve | ie, what's it called? |
| 11:54.20 | Gerben | specing, first argument is of little importance I think (it requires Ruby and a few others), disk space is not a problem. And I don't use chroot installs. |
| 11:54.37 | Agiofws | i have a 32 bit installation of squeeze on my system on / and another partition for home whats the best way to upgrade to a 64bit version of squeeze ? |
| 11:54.40 | Gerben | why would you want to use puppet in a chroot install? |
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| 11:55.10 | specing | Gerben: Because that is how I build Gentoo for small devices |
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| 11:55.42 | Gerben | ok, my targets are now just regular web/database/fileservers |
| 11:56.11 | specing | Then you shouldn't have problems with it |
| 11:56.15 | ag4ve | Agiofws: backup /etc, take a list of your installed packages, wipe / (not /home) and reinstall |
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| 11:57.08 | Gerben | specing, I pre-configure them using preseed/debian-installer using some custom script. And puppet works fine in the /target chroot there. |
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| 11:58.41 | Agiofws | ag4ve, why should i back up etc ? |
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| 11:59.59 | Agiofws | and why a list of my installed packages ? ( to re-install them back ?) |
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| 12:01.16 | Gerben | but back to my original question, is there a more efficient way then having multiple copies of the full Debian repo for doing update management / having different environments? Anyone experience using http://code.google.com/p/debmarshal/ |
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| 12:03.07 | EagleScreen | my airis netbook has an ARM11 iMAPx210 @ 1.00 GHz processor |
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| 12:04.15 | themill | Gerben: you would presumably be tracking stable which is (mostly) unchanging. Only the updates suites change so only they need such verification then push out, surely? (look at reprepro for managing archives) |
| 12:04.16 | ag4ve | Agiofws: yes - if you backup your home directory, go and reinstall whatever packages you have and have your home directory in tact, you'll have the same system |
| 12:04.54 | ag4ve | Agiofws: you'll want to be smart about the packages and etc - some packages will have different names, etc. |
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| 12:05.14 | xingu | Gerben: back in the day I did build promotion by locally generating Packages.gz and using something remarkably similar to what apt-cacher now does. |
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| 12:05.31 | JyZyXEL | how complicated is it having /var/log/ located on a NSF? im thinking situation where the NSF share goes down |
| 12:05.38 | ag4ve | you'll also want to be smart about etc - some things might've changed - the ssh key the machine uses should probably change for instance. |
| 12:05.49 | specing | JyZyXEL: use network logging |
| 12:06.12 | ag4ve | syslog-ng also has different backends iirc |
| 12:06.17 | Mattias | Anyone knows if gcc 4.8 is in debian testing? |
| 12:06.22 | Agiofws | ag4ve, should i resinstall etc back again is that what you are saying ? |
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| 12:06.34 | xingu | JyZyXEL: things that like to log also like to fsync(); you'll get equivalent commit guarantees with less overhead by using tcp based syslog. |
| 12:06.40 | themill | Mattias: no |
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| 12:06.43 | Agiofws | should i use the net install iso ? |
| 12:06.48 | JyZyXEL | is it hard to set up? |
| 12:07.05 | xingu | JyZyXEL: ridiculous simple, just install and point it at a remote log server. |
| 12:07.11 | Mattias | themill, which is the latest there? I really want C++11 support so I can play around with it :) |
| 12:07.25 | ag4ve | Agiofws: i'm saying, reinstall, have your list of packages so that when something is missing you can put it back. if you notice a config is funny, you'll have a reference of what your etc was |
| 12:07.50 | ag4ve | there's also /usr/local/etc if you've compiled anything (you don't seem like the compiling type though) |
| 12:07.59 | xingu | JyZyXEL: as an added bonus it means you'll log when your nfs client oops's :) |
| 12:08.02 | Agiofws | ok ... |
| 12:08.04 | themill | dpkg: tell Mattiass about search |
| 12:08.16 | Agiofws | ag4ve, i compile my own vanilla kernels ... |
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| 12:08.52 | JyZyXEL | xingu: its gonna be all smart and log locally until NFS comes back up? |
| 12:09.00 | Agiofws | debian-6.0.6-amd64-netinst.iso ... |
| 12:09.01 | JyZyXEL | and then sync up |
| 12:09.42 | xingu | JyZyXEL: if you let local clients hit a local syslogd and let that syslogd log to a remote syslogd over tcp, you no longer have a dependancy on nfs |
| 12:09.44 | ag4ve | Agiofws: and your kernel isn't configured by anything in etc. |
| 12:09.58 | Agiofws | ag4ve, i would also like to resize my / from 15Gb to 20Gb is that possible ? |
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| 12:10.18 | Agiofws | are those figures ok for a home user ? |
| 12:10.33 | JyZyXEL | xingu: what do you mean by local clients |
| 12:10.41 | ag4ve | Agiofws: short answer is yes. |
| 12:10.50 | Mogget | JyZyXEL: I will mention rsyslog for you too. logging to a sql db. |
| 12:11.00 | ag4ve | Agiofws: if it's on the same disk as /home (or anything else) you're going to want to backup |
| 12:11.05 | Mogget | JyZyXEL: I use it to store logging for three personal servers in one place. |
| 12:11.07 | Agiofws | partition magic for resizing ? |
| 12:11.14 | xingu | JyZyXEL: stuff that ends up in /var/log tends to originate from processes hitting at syslog(3) api |
| 12:11.25 | ag4ve | Agiofws: gparted probably |
| 12:11.39 | JyZyXEL | i hope all the daemons i run use the syslog then |
| 12:12.03 | Agiofws | yes / is on the same disk as /home/user/ .. are you saying i should back up home ? |
| 12:12.11 | JyZyXEL | i know all the logs that are important are in /var/log |
| 12:12.13 | Agiofws | before resizing ? |
| 12:12.22 | Agiofws | even though i won't touch /home ? |
| 12:12.27 | ag4ve | Agiofws: if you don't have anything else on that disk you care about, you can just use fdisk, delete the partition, recreate it at the same start point (with a bigger endpoint. reboot, ext2resize, and done |
| 12:12.28 | JyZyXEL | stuff like squid access logs |
| 12:12.41 | Agiofws | i may touch /mnt/foo though to add to / |
| 12:12.53 | ag4ve | Agiofws: is home on the same physical disk or not? |
| 12:13.01 | Agiofws | yes it is |
| 12:13.15 | ag4ve | then backup home if you care about it |
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| 12:13.36 | xingu | JyZyXEL: access_log syslog:facility.priority formatstr |
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| 12:13.41 | xingu | JyZyXEL: in squid.conf |
| 12:13.42 | Agiofws | but even if i won't touch it on resizing why should i back it up ? |
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| 12:14.26 | themill | Agiofws: will you care if it goes missing? |
| 12:14.32 | ag4ve | Agiofws: do you know how to edit a partition table? |
| 12:14.49 | ag4ve | Agiofws: and i mean, by hand with a hex editor |
| 12:14.57 | Gerben | themill, thank you. I didn't want to use debmarshal because when I read the docs a few weeks back it scared me. I am now re-reading this and understand how it works, so I'll use that I think. I have never experienced any update problems in the debian server-setups I am using at my current and former employers for 7 years ( I did with other dists, so this is a big compliment ), but I still rather trust on (internal) testing, also due to t |
| 12:14.57 | Gerben | he growing number of 3rd party repo's. |
| 12:14.59 | Agiofws | yes ... but i was going to use gparted to resize me / ag4ve |
| 12:15.02 | Agiofws | my* |
| 12:15.19 | Agiofws | ahh no i don't not by a hex editor sorry |
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| 12:16.07 | ag4ve | which touches a bit of information 16 bits away from the information that tells your os where /home is located |
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| 12:16.15 | ag4ve | 16 bits is iirc |
| 12:16.19 | themill | Gerben: sounds like you want just a simple cacher for the stable release and then something more sophisticated for stable-updates, stable/updates and stable-proposed-updates. (and ditch the 3rd party repos... they're only going to cause pain) |
| 12:16.42 | ag4ve | Agiofws: don't backup, just don't ask how to fix it if things go to hell |
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| 12:17.02 | ag4ve | i'll tell you to pay $2k for a data recovery service |
| 12:17.04 | xreal | What's the debian variante/opposit of CASPER ? |
| 12:17.11 | themill | Agiofws: if you care about your /home, then you'd already have backups... |
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| 12:17.14 | Agiofws | will resizing / touch my partition table or mbr ? |
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| 12:17.37 | ag4ve | Agiofws: yes |
| 12:17.46 | Agiofws | maybe i should back up my partition table ... |
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| 12:18.06 | ag4ve | no, you should backup /home if you care about that data |
| 12:18.10 | Agiofws | ok |
| 12:18.23 | Agiofws | i think net inst. is the best way to go ? |
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| 12:18.34 | Agiofws | 64bit net install ? |
| 12:19.35 | ag4ve | after you resize, you rewrite the partition, right? if resizing overwrites the fs table of your next partition, than you get the pampered treatment at the data recovery facility (because they'll be raping your bank account) |
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| 12:21.56 | xreal | What's the debian variante/opposit of CASPER ? I need to create initrd.gz and vmlinuz |
| 12:22.35 | ag4ve | xreal: grub-setup should do it for you |
| 12:22.43 | Agiofws | if you have several partitions on a disk and you get rid of the last partition adding it to the first / willyour 3rd partition get messed up due to the change of the partition table ? |
| 12:22.50 | Agiofws | anyway thank you for your advice |
| 12:22.51 | ag4ve | i have no idea what casper is though |
| 12:23.06 | xreal | ag4ve: it informs linux that it's readonly (live CD) |
| 12:23.09 | ceil | ag4ve: what do you mean aptitude -> apt-get can corrupt the db? you mean if i start using aptitude and then try to use apt-get again later the db can get messed up? :o |
| 12:23.29 | themill | ceil: no. There's no problem in switching between them |
| 12:23.30 | xreal | ag4ve: I'm building a live CD from scratch, since live_boot is ... bloatware and full of bugs. |
| 12:23.31 | ceil | (sorry for delay, was watching a show :p) |
| 12:23.49 | ceil | themill: orly |
| 12:24.00 | ag4ve | ceil: like i said, that's what i've been told. i just apt-get and am fine with it |
| 12:24.01 | ceil | why are there two different apts, while we're on the subject? |
| 12:24.17 | themill | ceil: different implementations that are trying different things |
| 12:24.27 | themill | ag4ve: don't believe everything you've been told |
| 12:24.33 | ceil | ag4ve: i just saw the one line from /lastlog. sorry if you expanded on it/discussed it afterward and i missed it :p |
| 12:24.57 | ag4ve | xreal: ah, right. than nevermind ... |
| 12:26.05 | ag4ve | ceil: nope, that was it. just the comment that you should probably pick one and stick with it. |
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| 12:27.04 | ag4ve | idk what the db structure is, but it wouldn't surprise me if they change some things in aptitude to make it faster (indexes for instance) that apt-get update will read the schema, think it knows what it's doing and totally break things. |
| 12:27.19 | themill | no |
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| 12:31.08 | themill | !apt myths |
| 12:31.09 | dpkg | Myths about APT never seem to die, the principal one being you can't mix using different APT front-ends like apt-get and aptitude. This is false. If you need further convincing, see http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9 and http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/blog/entry/apt-system-diagram/ . See also <why aptitude> and <why not aptitude> for real reasons to choose one over the other. |
| 12:32.02 | ceil | !why aptitude |
| 12:32.03 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). For some upgrades, apt-get is preferred (e.g. lenny->squeeze). Read the release notes and http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9. |
| 12:32.19 | themill | (you can also just /msg dpkg) |
| 12:32.30 | ceil | ah, t's why i don't often use aptitude. i've never had a problem with apt-get :p |
| 12:32.47 | ceil | themill: oh, right |
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| 12:33.41 | magnus_ | hello. today sweden adjusted to daylight savings, but my debian machine did not follow. if i review my timezone data using zdump, there seem to be no records for 2012, only for 2011 and earlier. how can i update my tzdata? |
| 12:33.49 | xreal | debian packages get worser every day. why do I need "tex" for "debian-installer" ?? |
| 12:34.10 | xreal | and complete ghostscript ... omg |
| 12:34.58 | Wizard | ? |
| 12:35.12 | themill | xreal: umm... it has to build documentation somehow |
| 12:35.31 | ag4ve | themill: ok, very well :) |
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| 12:36.22 | ag4ve | though, i can't aptitude-cache search/show/policy/etc |
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| 12:36.35 | themill | ag4ve: aptitude search |
| 12:37.03 | themill | but aptitude isn't trying to replace all of apt-cache and it doesn't need to |
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| 12:37.35 | themill | magnus_: what release of debian is this? |
| 12:37.49 | themill | (and what command did you use to check tzdata) |
| 12:37.58 | ag4ve | themill: so, what's it trying to do? |
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| 12:38.24 | themill | ag4ve: it has a man page... |
| 12:38.29 | ag4ve | i mean, i always thought it *was* trying to replace the apt-* system |
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| 12:38.46 | themill | no, it's a package manager and you'll notice that apt-cache is not |
| 12:38.46 | xreal | building a Debian live-cd from scratch is VERY interesting |
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| 12:38.56 | xreal | it shows, how much knowledge we've lost in the last years |
| 12:39.02 | magnus_ | themill, turns out my install was pretty darn old. i did a apt-get update 66 |
| 12:39.11 | magnus_ | apt-get update && apt-get install tzdata and it worked itself out |
| 12:39.29 | magnus_ | now i only need my system to pickup the new timezone data |
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| 12:39.57 | themill | magnus_: what's the output of "apt-cache policy apt dpkg tzdata libc6; apt-cache policy" there now? |
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| 12:40.51 | magnus_ | themill: http://pastebin.com/c5DrY0jE |
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| 12:43.55 | xreal | the smallest ISO, debian live can create is more than 120 MB ... |
| 12:45.21 | Wizard | I think installer isn't necessary on LiveCD. |
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| 12:46.30 | ag4ve | xreal: you know you might better off using something other than debian? |
| 12:46.51 | xreal | ag4ve: nope, the first Debian Live CD with XDM and Fluxbox I created yesterday is 40 MB only |
| 12:47.06 | xreal | ag4ve: that's why I said, live_helper is bloatware |
| 12:47.11 | ag4ve | you could probably use south of 40 megs if you did a custom compiled kernel, with xfce, on cramfs |
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| 12:47.40 | xreal | ag4ve: nope, I used standard kernel |
| 12:47.53 | themill | perhaps you should be using emdebian |
| 12:47.55 | brontosaurusrex | is wheezy + gnome3 + some extensions known to be pretty unstable? |
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| 12:48.01 | themill | or offering patches rather than just ranting |
| 12:48.18 | ag4ve | meh ok, i guess if you're counting pennies, cramfs and the custom stuff might get you a little smaller but i don't think you're getting much smaller than that |
| 12:48.47 | xreal | ag4ve: I just want to show that users should not use "fully automatic scripts" like live_boot |
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| 12:48.58 | xreal | ag4ve: noone knows, what it does. even the maintainers don't correctly |
| 12:49.01 | xreal | ag4ve: it's too big |
| 12:49.12 | ag4ve | xreal: actually, themill's emdebian comment might be reasonable to look at. i've seen tons of multistrap scripts for it |
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| 12:49.35 | TrIXx47 | Hi, i have set up a debian on a raspi. I will ping the computer by hostname but it doesn't work. |
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| 12:50.08 | TrIXx47 | my /etc/network/interfaces are set up with dns-nameservers "myrouterip" |
| 12:50.34 | xreal | themill: looks like arm only |
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| 12:51.03 | ag4ve | idk about emdebian, but multistrap lets you do it for whatever |
| 12:51.39 | ag4ve | but, if they compiled it for arm only than that's out |
| 12:51.42 | TrIXx47 | also my /etc/resolv.conf looks like "nameserver "myrouterip" |
| 12:51.45 | themill | xreal: no |
| 12:51.57 | ag4ve | it would be surprising as there are x86 embedded devices |
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| 12:52.22 | blubberdiblub | there are embedded devices on a whole lot of different architectures |
| 12:52.57 | TrIXx47 | - /etc/hostname looks like "hostname" |
| 12:53.30 | xreal | themill: I need a livecd ... |
| 12:53.38 | themill | TrIXx47: does your router actually do local dns? |
| 12:53.51 | themill | xreal: and apparently space is also important? |
| 12:53.57 | TrIXx47 | - /etc/hosts looks "127.0.1.1 hostname" |
| 12:54.09 | xreal | themill: the size should be "okay" but not 120 MB for a minimal system. |
| 12:54.20 | ag4ve | xreal: if it's small, just make the part that makes it an isolinux iso on the end? |
| 12:54.22 | xreal | themill: my minimal system has 40 MB only and does eaxtly the same |
| 12:54.23 | TrIXx47 | what else file must i edit |
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| 12:54.45 | themill | xreal: sounds like you really need to reconsider your priorities. Or if you've got this much spare time on your hands, go fix some RC bugs |
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| 12:55.55 | excalibr | how do you specify custom path for header files during compiling? |
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| 12:56.07 | ag4ve | xreal: though, if you've got it working, i'd see it on github (or something akin) |
| 12:56.11 | themill | xreal: also, there is no way it does "exactly the same". It might do "almost the same" or even "both satisfy *MY* requirements". |
| 12:56.22 | ag4ve | excalibr: -I |
| 12:56.27 | TrIXx47 | yes i think so |
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| 12:56.36 | xreal | themill: yep, you're right |
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| 12:56.55 | xreal | ag4ve: I'm rewriting it currently, since I stipped down an existing live CD |
| 12:57.10 | xreal | ag4ve: I can't create the vmlinuz etc. right now by hand |
| 12:58.02 | TrIXx47 | if i ping my laptop from debian it works. if i ping the debain hostname from my laptop it doesnt work |
| 12:59.21 | Wizard | TrIXx47: Possible causes are: firewall, misconfigured DNS. |
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| 13:00.49 | TrIXx47 | firewall is possible but it is a fresh system and i havent set up any firewall yet |
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| 13:01.07 | TrIXx47 | its only in local lan |
| 13:01.30 | TrIXx47 | i thoink there must be an option in any file i have to set up |
| 13:01.33 | Wizard | Try pinging IP |
| 13:01.42 | TrIXx47 | works |
| 13:01.50 | Wizard | Misconfigured DNS. |
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| 13:02.18 | Guest23462 | I'm terrible with passwords. What is the best way to keep a list of passwords updated across multiple systems? |
| 13:02.32 | themill | TrIXx47: squeeze or wheezy? dhcp or static ip? |
| 13:02.43 | TrIXx47 | whezzy static ip |
| 13:03.20 | themill | TrIXx47: did you configure your router to do dns for that hostname:ip pair then? |
| 13:03.35 | TrIXx47 | in witch file must i edit the dns |
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| 13:03.52 | TrIXx47 | one moment i will check |
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| 13:04.39 | themill | (one of these situations where dhcp and avahi would be useful) |
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| 13:06.32 | TrIXx47 | jiha thanks for that tip |
| 13:06.36 | TrIXx47 | it works |
| 13:07.18 | blubberdiblub | Guest23462, there is no best way. whatever works good for you. i for my part use keepassx (which encrypts the list with a master password) + dropbox (which syncs them across all my systems) |
| 13:08.11 | phogg | or just use an online password manager, which is less complex |
| 13:08.35 | blubberdiblub | actually my setup is not complex at all, once it is set up |
| 13:08.46 | Wizard | :) |
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| 13:09.07 | phogg | blubberdiblub: suuure. You have a two step process which requires two pieces of software installed on every machine where you need to access the information. |
| 13:09.24 | phogg | Whereas an online, web-based password manager requires none and none. |
| 13:09.32 | phogg | so, more complex |
| 13:09.38 | blubberdiblub | phogg, but is less secure. unless you trust the service |
| 13:09.45 | blubberdiblub | phogg, and is less fail-safe |
| 13:09.47 | phogg | blubberdiblub: you trust dropbox just as much |
| 13:09.49 | Guest23462 | What about seahorse? |
| 13:10.04 | blubberdiblub | phogg, i don't trust it at all. keepassx encrypts my passwords, so it's safe from them |
| 13:10.05 | phogg | blubberdiblub: dropbox is fail-safe? |
| 13:10.22 | blubberdiblub | phogg, no, it's not, but the files are stored on local computers |
| 13:10.31 | phogg | blubberdiblub: and any decent online password manager encrypts passwords locally with a key only I have, just transmitting and storing the blob |
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| 13:11.12 | blubberdiblub | phogg, well, do whatever you like, my way is still nice for what i am doing, and that's exactly what i said. your mileage may very |
| 13:11.53 | themill | they actually sound remarkably similar |
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| 13:12.00 | blubberdiblub | yes |
| 13:12.12 | phogg | The difference is primarily how much setup is required. |
| 13:12.38 | blubberdiblub | i don't see much set up on my side. just installing 2 packages and i'm good to go |
| 13:12.49 | themill | and how much trust you put in a 3rd party not to disappear |
| 13:13.13 | blubberdiblub | which wouldn't be a problem in my case. i would just switch to a different sync service |
| 13:13.17 | phogg | ...until you're at a remote location and need to be able to access a password for e.g. your bank's web site NOW, but you don't have root... |
| 13:13.36 | blubberdiblub | phogg, why would i need root for that? i have my phone |
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| 13:14.10 | phogg | blubberdiblub: I'm not saying it can't be made to work, I'm saying there's more setup involved. |
| 13:14.51 | themill | phogg: precisely how does this service work whereby you have a locally encrypted password store and don't use any software to encrypt it or to sync it? |
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| 13:15.16 | phogg | themill: the encryption is done in javascript. |
| 13:15.23 | themill | .pal phogg |
| 13:16.09 | phogg | themill: so, your vulnerabilities are (1) trusting the provider to send reliable code, (2) MITM attacks on the code as it comes down, (3) keylogging, (4) brute force attacks after the encrypted blob leaves your computer |
| 13:16.47 | phogg | but the convenience advantage is very strong, and so long as you rotate passwords regularly only (3) is a serious concern |
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| 13:16.49 | themill | and you need a browser that can do javascript. Remembering who was claiming that it was low setup |
| 13:17.12 | phogg | themill: That is the one thing that is likely to be available on any computer, these days. |
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| 13:28.47 | pbase | can anyone suggest some good games (3d) for debian? |
| 13:29.06 | bn` | minecraft :D |
| 13:29.11 | nemuke | warsow |
| 13:29.13 | pbase | action adventure |
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| 13:40.02 | DexterF | hi |
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| 14:01.00 | Guest74593 | Hello, I am having problems updating my Kernel to 3.2? |
| 14:01.10 | Guest74593 | I get an error saying... E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64' |
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| 14:02.03 | Guest74593 | But that package does exist, because I searched it. |
| 14:02.21 | SiDz | pastebin entire output |
| 14:02.33 | SiDz | of apt-get/aptitude |
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| 14:02.53 | Guest74593 | SiDz: I am following this guide... http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-linux-6-apt-get-install-linux-kernel-3-2/ |
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| 14:03.13 | Guest74593 | I have done all the steps until installing the package, where I get that error. |
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| 14:03.58 | format_c | Guest74593: please pastebin it. |
| 14:04.20 | Guest74593 | . |
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| 14:04.31 | wigtion | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAfRZBh4Lh8&feature=plcp cool pumpkin carving video for all you board people :P |
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| 14:05.28 | blubberdiblub | Guest74593, you're most probably using the wrong package name. the one from your error message is the one from the guide you're reading. but the guide wants you to search the available kernels and substitute one of the found kernels in your command line for installing |
| 14:06.12 | themill | Guest74593: if you could pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy" that would also be handy |
| 14:06.31 | Guest74593 | http://paste.debian.net/204344/ |
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| 14:06.51 | SiDz | show the search also |
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| 14:07.56 | Guest74593 | themill: http://paste.debian.net/204345/ |
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| 14:08.36 | SiDz | can we see the apt-cache search output |
| 14:09.10 | Guest74593 | SiDz: http://paste.debian.net/204346/ |
| 14:09.29 | SiDz | youre trying to install bpo-2 |
| 14:09.39 | SiDz | but your search find bpo-3 |
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| 14:09.49 | SiDz | bpo.3 i mean |
| 14:10.10 | Guest74593 | Oh |
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| 14:10.40 | SiDz | bad bad copy/past |
| 14:10.41 | Guest74593 | yeah, I can't see very well on the screen, my graphics driver isn't working which is why I'm upgrading my kernel |
| 14:10.41 | SiDz | ;p |
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| 14:12.42 | Guest74593 | No, for some reason I cannot copy and paste into the terminal off of a website page. 0.o |
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| 14:19.15 | safridzal | help me, can anyone share the content of /etc/lsb-release ?? (testing user) |
| 14:19.32 | safridzal | somehow, i mess up with that file.. |
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| 14:20.52 | Brigo | safridzal: i haven't this file, sorry. |
| 14:21.09 | brontosaurusrex | safridzal: hold on |
| 14:22.04 | brontosaurusrex | safridzal: No such file or directory |
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| 14:22.14 | safridzal | ah.. |
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| 14:23.18 | safridzal | wew.. i think its because im using Mint debian.. not a pure debian.. well, thanks brontosaurusrex and Brigo :D im gonna check on mint channel :D |
| 14:23.19 | dvs | safridzal: aptitude reinstall debian-edu-config |
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| 14:23.41 | brontosaurusrex | safridzal: just checked on pure wheezy |
| 14:23.41 | themill | I doubt that's the package that's actually desired |
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| 14:25.02 | safridzal | ddg-ing about debian-edu-config now :D thanks.. |
| 14:25.03 | pimperle | hi. is there a channel related to cryptsetup/luks questions? i'm unsure whether to use decrypt_keyctl or decrypt_derived as both seem to accomplish the same task, albeit with different techniques. |
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| 14:42.17 | qmr | what is this 'dotdeb' thing? is it dodgy? looks dodgy. |
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| 14:42.49 | themill | qmr: they are well known for producing poor quality packages and not caring about upgrade paths |
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| 14:43.29 | slikke | hi all |
| 14:43.33 | qmr | fscking idiot users. just use stable and be happy. |
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| 14:47.28 | ompaul | prods themill cf the note |
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| 14:48.14 | zib | Hi. In http://www.debian.org/security/2012/dsa-2566 it says 4.80-5.1 is avail in wheezy but it's not. Why and When? ;) |
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| 14:49.04 | dvs | ,v exim4 |
| 14:49.05 | judd | Package: exim4 on i386 -- lenny: 4.69-9+lenny4; lenny-security: 4.69-9+lenny4; lenny-backports: 4.72-6+squeeze2~bpo50+1; squeeze: 4.72-6+squeeze2; squeeze-security: 4.72-6+squeeze2; squeeze-security: 4.72-6+squeeze3; sid: 4.80-4; sid: 4.80-5; wheezy: 4.80-5; sid: 4.80-5.1 |
| 14:49.23 | dvs | looks like it to me. |
| 14:49.30 | abrotman | it does? |
| 14:49.48 | themill | zib: those packages are installable in wheezy and will migrate to wheezy in good time. You don't run testing if you want non-delayed security support. |
| 14:50.04 | dvs | oops. I missed the .1 |
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| 14:51.06 | zib | themill: I understand. But then the dsa should say so |
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| 14:51.29 | zib | "has been fixed" sounds like its out. "will be fixed" would be accurate |
| 14:51.35 | themill | zib: well, it is. |
| 14:51.55 | zib | well it says wheezy :) |
| 14:52.01 | zib | It's just confusing :D |
| 14:52.05 | themill | and you can install that package in wheezy. |
| 14:52.14 | dvs | zib: it is fixed, but its just not in wheezy yet. |
| 14:52.32 | zib | themill: yeah i know. It just made me think i had some setup where i dont get security updates |
| 14:52.51 | themill | zib: well, you don't... testing has no dedicated, timely security support |
| 14:52.52 | zib | Imho. If you have 3 lines stating the same thing "this problem has been fixed" . And you state squeeze, wheezy, sid the same way. |
| 14:52.56 | zib | Then it's confusing :) |
| 14:53.02 | zib | It's not hard to be clear about it. |
| 14:53.08 | themill | thinks it is clear |
| 14:53.25 | zib | Then you are snowed in :D |
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| 14:53.49 | zib | Anyway. I'll grab the sid package |
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| 14:57.13 | qmr | any brotips on eradicating dotdeb stuff and getting back to happiness? I'm going to give it 5 more minutes before I just start throwing random purge commands around |
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| 14:57.56 | themill | qmr: well, back up all your config files, and "aptitude purge ~Vdotdeb" should do it, presuming that they are still including "dotdeb" in their version strings. |
| 14:58.20 | qmr | k. they have a recent snapshot. maybe. |
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| 14:59.16 | qmr | ugh, 8 packages listed |
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| 15:04.39 | safridzal | I have 4Gb ram installed (2x2gb), but my ram usage never reach 1.5Gb..I've set the swappiness to 10/100, but its not increasing the ram usage.. somehow i feel that additional ram is useless.. |
| 15:04.46 | safridzal | is there another trick to make application use more ram? |
| 15:05.13 | abrotman | they're not just going to use more RAM if there's nothing for them to do with it |
| 15:05.16 | petemc | can the application use flash? |
| 15:05.20 | abrotman | heh |
| 15:05.23 | Brigo | safridzal: what is the returns of command 'free'? |
| 15:05.52 | qmr | safridzal: it should be used for disk cache. the kernel will still swap things out to make better use of real memory |
| 15:05.53 | safridzal | Mem: 3654840 2618416 1036424 0 216204 1432184 |
| 15:06.08 | mtn | never saw anyone complaining about using too little ram |
| 15:06.11 | safridzal | -/+ buffers/cache: 970028 2684812 |
| 15:06.11 | safridzal | Swap: 3066876 0 3066876 |
| 15:06.29 | qmr | for example on one server I have a full 512 swap and like 510 free memory. probably minecraft all swapped out as my server is barren :'( |
| 15:06.50 | Brigo | used = 2618416 > 2G |
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| 15:07.08 | safridzal | mtn: lol,, thats because after i add the additional 2gb, im switching to 64bit.. |
| 15:07.33 | mtn | safridzal: good to have it around, but don't really need to use it do you? |
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| 15:08.02 | safridzal | Brigo: ah.. yes.. but, the ram usage indicator on system monitor anly show 900mb |
| 15:08.51 | dvs | That's right. 970MB without cache and buffers |
| 15:08.52 | abrotman | safridzal: that's correct |
| 15:09.05 | safridzal | mtn: seems like, the only time it reach 3Gb is when i use Firefox with >20 tabs open.. but i never do that again.. |
| 15:09.29 | safridzal | owh, i get it now.. |
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| 15:10.20 | smith1 | whats the main difference between debian and ubuntu |
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| 15:11.30 | dvs | smith1: Debian is stable. |
| 15:11.43 | themill | dpkg: tell smith1 about why debian |
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| 15:13.45 | ompaul | smith1: that's like asking what's the difference between toyota and nissan |
| 15:14.03 | dvs | Nissan is stable. ;-) |
| 15:14.23 | mevvis | toyota has supra |
| 15:14.43 | ompaul | fancy but not zseries |
| 15:14.48 | dvs | heh |
| 15:15.00 | ompaul | there ended the lesson :) |
| 15:15.11 | smith1 | thats hard both are for taxi drivers. |
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| 15:16.13 | ompaul | smith1: use Debian for six months, start with stablem, learn the ways of being stable and not chasing sns and being happy |
| 15:16.14 | ompaul | !sns |
| 15:16.15 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
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| 15:18.08 | safridzal | ompaul: can we have that (the sns thing) on offline terminal? like bsd games? |
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| 15:19.43 | ompaul | safridzal: it is a psychological condition. |
| 15:20.30 | safridzal | seriously?? cant find it on dsm-IV lol. |
| 15:20.35 | abrotman | mevvis: nissan has the gt-r? |
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| 15:21.31 | mevvis | lesson is ended |
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| 15:22.19 | specing | SNS? you mean like when one wants to run something not over 10 years old? |
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| 15:24.13 | abrotman | specing: how amusing, you're so funny .. nice joke |
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| 15:36.01 | PinkFreud | hey folks. I have a box here running debian squeeze with grub-pc 1.98+20100804-14. as of yesterday, grub will no longer boot. |
| 15:36.15 | abrotman | did you change something? or this just magically happened? |
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| 15:36.29 | PinkFreud | abrotman: I was getting to that. |
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| 15:37.15 | PinkFreud | the pc in question has 9 drives (6 of which are md raid1 mirrors) in lvm. it also has another 14 in zfs, but those are not used to boot. |
| 15:38.20 | PinkFreud | I can boot off a rescue cd, manually assemble the three raid1s, and enable lvm without error. I've verified that all 9 devices are listed in grub's device.map. grub-install '(hd0)' completes without error. |
| 15:38.55 | PinkFreud | yet, grub stubbornly insists it cannot find 'physical volume pv5' and dumps me to a rescue prompt. |
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| 15:39.57 | PinkFreud | it'd help if I could figure out what this amorphous 'pv5' is. I understand that it's a physical volume for lvm, but '5' completely fails to impart any useful information to dig into the matter further. |
| 15:40.38 | PinkFreud | the only thing that's changed recently is me adding the full array of zfs drives. |
| 15:40.50 | PinkFreud | previously, this box booted with some of the drives enabled. |
| 15:41.26 | PinkFreud | I'm not certain it's connected to this issue, though - as I mentioned before, zfs is not used to boot. only lvm + md are needed for boot. |
| 15:41.57 | PinkFreud | does grub have some sort of limitation on the number of drives it has? |
| 15:42.00 | PinkFreud | er, can see? |
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| 15:42.53 | PinkFreud | as far as I can tell, I'm staring at a major showstopper of a bug in grub. |
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| 15:44.30 | PinkFreud | abrotman: anything? You were quick to ask if this magically happened. Now that you have a full explanation, do you have any suggestions to offer? |
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| 15:46.34 | abrotman | PinkFreud: Why is grub looking for that pv5? Is that your question? |
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| 15:47.48 | PinkFreud | yes. |
| 15:48.04 | PinkFreud | If I can figure out what it's calling 'pv5', it might help me track down what it's problem is. |
| 15:48.36 | abrotman | is it in the device map? |
| 15:49.06 | PinkFreud | not as 'pv5'. |
| 15:49.24 | PinkFreud | the 9 individual drives are listed in the device map. |
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| 15:51.59 | PinkFreud | abrotman: grub's 'lvm' module would be assigning 'pv5' to one of the devices. I'm not sure if that'd be (hd5) or if it'd be completely arbitrary. |
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| 15:54.03 | bencc1 | what folder a server should use for user uploaded files such as avatars? |
| 15:54.07 | bencc1 | /var/myserver/??? |
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| 15:54.22 | aristarchus | how do i enable unstable packages? |
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| 15:55.51 | Rockj | Q: why does «super+p» suddently toggle my display modes out of the blue on latest Debian Wheezy ? |
| 15:56.22 | mtn | aristarchus: if you have to ask, I imagine you shouldn't do that |
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| 15:57.00 | aristarchus | mtn: try me |
| 15:57.05 | ompaul | aristarchus: that is not what you do |
| 15:57.21 | aristarchus | mtn: i just need to install the most recent version of a package...it is non-essential |
| 15:57.38 | ompaul | aristarchus: still not what you do |
| 15:57.42 | mtn | aristarchus: check out backports |
| 15:57.46 | ompaul | !tell aristarchus about bpo |
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| 16:00.16 | aristarchus | what is the name of the file with the sources list? |
| 16:00.38 | nemuke | /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 16:00.52 | themill | aristarchus: what are you trying to achieve here? |
| 16:01.04 | aristarchus | nevermind i found it |
| 16:01.16 | themill | aristarchus: please stop. |
| 16:01.25 | Rockj | bencc1: up to you to decide where you stash stuff on your file system, but it's a good idea to understand the philosophy behind the file tree structures on your file system. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard ( http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.pdf if you want to go in dept :-) ) |
| 16:01.30 | safridzal | aristarchus: better solution : use apt-pinning |
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| 16:01.49 | themill | safridzal, aristarchus: actually, that's not a better solution 99% of the time |
| 16:02.18 | aristarchus | themill: all i want to install is the most recent version of pokerth |
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| 16:03.03 | themill | aristarchus: installing that from sid is not going to be a pleasant experience. do NOT do that. |
| 16:03.04 | Rockj | aristarchus: please do not use unstable if you dont know how to tackle system crashes your self. Use backports as it makes sure to link to libraries available in your current debian version etc and still trying to use the latest available version of the software you want |
| 16:03.05 | safridzal | themill: well, from my point of view, its better than upgrading all my package to sid |
| 16:03.18 | bencc1 | Rockj: I want to follow the standard but not sure where to put user uploaded files |
| 16:03.25 | safridzal | if i only need 1 or 2 package, :D |
| 16:03.31 | bencc1 | Rockj: feels like it should go to /var/ somewhere but where? |
| 16:03.45 | themill | safridzal: mixing releases leads to tears -- and you'll find dependencies are such that you can't do it for just 1 or 2 packages most of the time |
| 16:03.45 | safridzal | but its a personal view.. |
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| 16:04.16 | safridzal | themill: ok.. got it :D |
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| 16:05.53 | Rockj | bencc1: all depends on the guy administrating the server. IE: apache 2 vhosts: Ive seen people deploy em under /var/websites/<vhosts> or /srv/apache2/<vhosts> etc etc. But it isn't natural for you to deploy an apache vhost in /home for example |
| 16:07.11 | bencc1 | Rockj: so /var/myserver/avatars is acceptable? |
| 16:07.52 | aristarchus | oh poop |
| 16:07.58 | Rockj | bencc1: also «where to put user uploaded files» doesn't tell me what kind of service this is, or anything, without it seems to be variable data that some user can upload. up to you to decide how you want to get a overview over the files on your system. |
| 16:07.59 | aristarchus | i guess pokerth isn't in backports |
| 16:08.09 | aristarchus | ah well |
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| 16:08.39 | PinkFreud | the more I stare at this, the more I tend to conclude that grub2 is completely broken. |
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| 16:10.04 | bencc1 | Rockj: user avatars, or documents to share with others |
| 16:10.07 | abrotman | PinkFreud: sorry, stepped away .. you could ask #grub also |
| 16:10.11 | bencc1 | Rockj: meaning it's dynamic |
| 16:10.19 | bencc1 | Rockj: and should be shared with a web server |
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| 16:10.31 | PinkFreud | abrotman: tried that already. no answer as of yet. |
| 16:10.31 | abrotman | PinkFreud: didn't this used to work with grub2? |
| 16:10.39 | PinkFreud | before yesterday, in fact. |
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| 16:11.00 | PinkFreud | Just checked - I'm running the latest grub-pc package in squeeze. |
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| 16:11.40 | Rockj | bencc1: sounds good, it works. or /var/websites/shared/avatars for example. it all up to you how you organize your files. |
| 16:11.47 | Rockj | :-) |
| 16:12.08 | bencc1 | Rockj: thanks |
| 16:12.26 | PinkFreud | I've since rearranged my device.map to have my startup drives as (hd0) and (hd1). grub still complains about pv5. |
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| 16:13.03 | PinkFreud | 'startup drives', as they're an md mirror. |
| 16:14.10 | PinkFreud | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:14.29 | PinkFreud | this lv resides completely on the md known as 'md2' |
| 16:15.10 | PinkFreud | whether that's the 'pv5' that grub refuses to find, or if it's another pv that it needs to build the vg to get to /boot, I don't know. |
| 16:15.30 | little_owl | Hi all, I am fairly new in Debian, using Fedora mostly before. I have just tried a snapshot of Wheezy and having some issues to boot UEFI system based on AMD E-350 I would like to report it. What is the best place to do that? |
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| 16:21.59 | rizlah | What issues? |
| 16:22.02 | themill | little_owl: #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net are probably the people who best understand uefi support at the moment. |
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| 16:28.50 | Xtreme | hey guys, can you tell me a software to detect and remove duplicate songs? |
| 16:29.10 | little_owl | themill: Thank you! |
| 16:29.33 | specing | Xtreme: sha1sum, stat, ... |
| 16:30.06 | Xtreme | specing, huh, huh? |
| 16:30.40 | specing | write a script |
| 16:31.20 | Xtreme | specing, argh.. nothing readymade? |
| 16:31.20 | themill | Xtreme: many media players can do that for you. If the files are identical, then fdupes can help too |
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| 16:31.50 | Xtreme | mp3 files,, different albums.. samme songs |
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| 16:32.14 | pigeons | i installed a deb with --force-depends, but how do i get aptitude to stop wanting to fix that dependency that i want to ignore |
| 16:32.15 | Xtreme | i need something like noclone for linux |
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| 16:32.40 | themill | pigeons: every time you use --force on dpkg, a cat is set amongst the pigeons. Don't do that. |
| 16:32.58 | pigeons | themill: thank you. how should i proceed? |
| 16:33.04 | themill | remove the package |
| 16:33.38 | pigeons | ok done |
| 16:34.07 | themill | pigeons: if you can get the source package, then rebuild it on your box. /msg dpkg package recompile |
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| 16:34.57 | little_owl | rizlah: The video controller is not initialized correctly .... |
| 16:34.59 | pataetjo | ola a todos |
| 16:35.01 | pigeons | thanks, will try |
| 16:35.07 | pataetjo | !list |
| 16:35.07 | dpkg | pataetjo: Debian è un sistema operativo composto di software libero non quella gratis. Vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per sapere di più. |
| 16:35.14 | rizlah | little_owl: Breaks my heart. |
| 16:35.20 | pataetjo | list |
| 16:35.24 | pataetjo | llist |
| 16:35.27 | themill | pataetjo: no warez here. |
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| 16:36.33 | little_owl | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:36.39 | nannes | http://paste.debian.net/204386/ error installing nvidia 96-43-23 drivers on debian wheezy |
| 16:36.51 | rizlah | I actually have no clue what this coversation is about. |
| 16:36.58 | rizlah | Oh wait, I asked what issues |
| 16:37.12 | little_owl | rizlah: :-D |
| 16:37.55 | rizlah | When setting permissions for your home directory, is it fine to just do chmod 0700 /home/user, or do I need -R ? |
| 16:39.20 | rizlah | Just thinking, if the directory itself is 0700, doesn't really matter what-so-ever if files inside have anything different. |
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| 16:46.27 | LinuX2half | Is there any risk upgrading my kernel to the latest version? |
| 16:46.47 | rizlah | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:47.15 | specing | LinuX2half: you risk leaving the stable world |
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| 16:48.33 | abrotman | you assume he runs stable .. |
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| 16:49.06 | LinuX2half | specing: so you're saying that 2.6.32 is the only approved stable kernel out there? |
| 16:49.27 | abrotman | LinuX2half: if oyu can compile it, you're welcome to run it |
| 16:49.44 | LinuX2half | No, compiling is not my goal here. |
| 16:49.49 | themill | LinuX2half: no, it's more that there is *always* risk of breaking stuff when you change things. |
| 16:49.55 | themill | dpkg: tell LinuX2half about bdo kernel |
| 16:50.40 | LinuX2half | themill: does that depend on your hardware? |
| 16:50.42 | rizlah | bdo kernel? |
| 16:52.15 | jelly-home | LinuX2half: it's a truism with any software solution, on any platform |
| 16:53.07 | jelly-home | changes can introduce or expose bugs |
| 16:54.06 | LinuX2half | jelly-home: I see. So is that the reason why Debian decide to permanently use 2.6.32 for all its releases? |
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| 16:54.24 | jelly-home | LinuX2half: mu |
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| 16:55.08 | jelly-home | LinuX2half: Debian 6 uses 2.6.32; the next release will use some other version; the previous release also used a different kernel version |
| 16:55.10 | abrotman | all its releases? |
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| 16:55.59 | LinuX2half | So then it won't upgrade to newer versions. Just different architectures. |
| 16:56.29 | kriebz | what on earth are you talking about? |
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| 16:56.59 | abrotman | isn't sure if LinuX2half doesn't speak english, or is extremely confused |
| 16:57.03 | AimHere | a release of Debian stable doesn't upgrade to newer versions of anything - there's just security fixes |
| 16:57.06 | Flynn` | is Chromium in free or non free repos? |
| 16:57.14 | abrotman | or trolling perhaps |
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| 16:57.21 | AimHere | What happens is that there'll be a new release of Debian at some time in the future with new versions of the software |
| 16:57.24 | abrotman | Flynn`: /msg dpkg search |
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| 16:57.43 | rizlah | What kernel version does Wheezy have? |
| 16:57.53 | Flynn` | abrotman: |
| 16:57.54 | abrotman | 3.2.0-2 or something like that |
| 16:57.55 | Flynn` | that doesnt say |
| 16:57.56 | jelly-home | LinuX2half: I'm not sure what you mean by that |
| 16:58.02 | abrotman | Flynn`: it will on packages.debian.org |
| 16:58.21 | rizlah | oic |
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| 16:58.26 | Flynn` | i'm sure someone knows in here |
| 16:58.28 | LinuX2half | AimHere: oh okay, that clears things up. |
| 16:58.49 | kriebz | Flynn`, fwiw, the debian package is chromium-browser |
| 16:59.03 | Flynn` | kriebz: i know that is it free or non free repos? |
| 16:59.12 | Flynn` | i'm not using debian or else i'd aptitude search |
| 16:59.22 | Flynn` | and also, my usb tethering is messing up and not loading web pages |
| 16:59.25 | kriebz | Flynn`, if you can install it without enabling non-free, it's in free |
| 16:59.27 | Flynn` | or else id look on debians website |
| 16:59.31 | kriebz | wtf difference does it make |
| 16:59.34 | Flynn` | oh okay thanks |
| 16:59.46 | abrotman | Flynn`: packages.debian.org/chromium .. this isn't rocket science |
| 16:59.53 | Flynn` | abrotman: |
| 17:00.04 | Flynn` | i just said, i'm usb tethered and i cant load web pages |
| 17:00.11 | kriebz | so you want a browser |
| 17:00.13 | kriebz | pfff |
| 17:00.15 | Flynn` | this is a suppport channel, quit making your distro look bad by flaming. |
| 17:00.21 | Flynn` | i'm not even on Debian right now |
| 17:00.28 | Flynn` | i'm on a different distro |
| 17:00.32 | themill | Flynn`: we like to help people help themselves. |
| 17:00.36 | Flynn` | anyways if you flame like that, it makes Debian look bad |
| 17:01.03 | Flynn` | themill: i'm under circumstances though where I just needed help with a simple question, because my internet is only connecting to IRC and not web pages |
| 17:01.05 | themill | Flynn`: you can also "/msg judd info chromium-browser" and judd will tell you what section the package is in |
| 17:01.12 | Flynn` | thanks themill |
| 17:01.46 | Flynn` | that's all i really needed to know, i know because ututo will compile chromium, yet some free repos like Trisquel and Parabola say Chromium is nonfree |
| 17:01.48 | kriebz | also `apt-cache policy`. looks like it's in main |
| 17:02.14 | Flynn` | but instead everyone ignored what i said, and just started flaming. |
| 17:02.16 | Flynn` | lol |
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| 17:02.40 | kriebz | wtf are "ututo", "trisquel", and "parabola"? |
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| 17:02.49 | kriebz | thought this was #debian |
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| 17:03.24 | abrotman | notes that Flynn` was confused .. but oh well |
| 17:04.04 | michele_ | someone could help me with slapd and samba? |
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| 17:10.50 | nannes | Help! Error while installing nvidia 96-43-23 drivers on debian wheezy.. http://paste.debian.net/204386/ (I think the issue starts from line 268) |
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| 17:11.22 | specing | 96?!?! |
| 17:12.23 | nannes | yep .. old video card |
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| 17:13.11 | nannes | but 96.43.23 should be compatible with newer xorg versions, I checked here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-96.43.23-driver.html |
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| 17:13.21 | nannes | « Added support for X.Org xserver versions 1.11 and 1.12. > |
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| 17:13.58 | HalfMadDad | Hi Everyone I am trying out Debian stable xfce under virtualbox. I've run lots of downstream distros but never stable. thunderbird, libreoffice and librecad, don't seem to be in the repos. What's the best way to add these? |
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| 17:14.47 | specing | HalfMadDad: first is called icedove |
| 17:14.57 | specing | the rest I don't know |
| 17:15.39 | HalfMadDad | specing, thanks. I did try out icedove underunstable and I had some trouble, is it possible to run thunderbird ? |
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| 17:16.26 | themill | HalfMadDad: you can get newer icedove from mozilla.debian.net; libreoffice and librecad are in backports; /msg dpkg bdo |
| 17:16.48 | HalfMadDad | thanks themill |
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| 17:17.44 | specing | HalfMadDad: use claws-mail or some other... thunderbird is crap. |
| 17:18.12 | HalfMadDad | specing, I can't been using it for 8 years, have 10 GBS of messages |
| 17:18.31 | specing | There is your problem |
| 17:18.39 | specing | you've become locked in |
| 17:18.47 | specing | that is never a good thing. |
| 17:18.49 | HalfMadDad | specing, yep |
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| 17:19.15 | HalfMadDad | like a rat on a wheel |
| 17:19.28 | jelly-home | doesn't tb use an open format for local mailboxes? |
| 17:20.12 | abrotman | mbox IIRC |
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| 17:20.47 | specing | No way it uses mbox |
| 17:21.03 | specing | Nothing uses mbox anymore |
| 17:21.15 | abrotman | lots of things use mbox |
| 17:21.35 | specing | Maybe on 10 year old debian stable installs... |
| 17:21.35 | jelly-home | mbox with indexes aside can be nice |
| 17:21.45 | abrotman | specing: why do you keep trolling? |
| 17:21.50 | specing | deleting is fun too... |
| 17:22.03 | specing | especially on mboxes spanning several gigs |
| 17:22.05 | abrotman | the default setups of Squeeze with Exim use mbox .. obviously not 10 years old |
| 17:22.17 | abrotman | but i'm guessing oyu don't even run Debian, and you're just here to cause problems |
| 17:22.32 | specing | I have debian in some VMs |
| 17:22.40 | HalfMadDad | thanks for you help guys, gotta take the kids to the mall |
| 17:22.47 | abrotman | then maybe you should check your installs |
| 17:22.49 | specing | I don't run it on machine I use daily |
| 17:22.57 | specing | machines* |
| 17:22.58 | themill | specing: ummm/.. plenty of things use mbox. Feel free to stop making up crap now. |
| 17:23.01 | dareth | Have fun don't give them a credit card |
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| 17:23.28 | HalfMadDad | dareth, good advice ! they are 6 and 2 |
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| 17:23.56 | dareth | My 4 year old pulls my card out of my wallet to pay. |
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| 17:24.11 | HalfMadDad | dareth, oh oh |
| 17:24.21 | HalfMadDad | will only get worse |
| 17:24.30 | dareth | Nog |
| 17:24.32 | HalfMadDad | bye |
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| 17:48.24 | martin3z | going to make full upgrade from 6.0.4 to 6.0.6, any problems i'll experience and should be prep? |
| 17:49.01 | dvs | martin3z: from 6.0.4 to 6.0.6? No problems doing that. |
| 17:49.02 | themill | martin3z: if you have security.debian.org in your sources.list (which you should) there shouldn't be much to upgrade |
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| 17:50.13 | martin3z | i didn't have security.debian.org. anyway, it should be easy. thanks. |
| 17:50.24 | themill | dpkg: tell martin3z about make squeeze sources.list |
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| 17:52.58 | jelly-home | make? |
| 17:53.45 | martin3z | ok, done. thanks |
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| 18:03.21 | alusion | I'm setting up a mysql database server, what is an example of a host name [not localhost] |
| 18:03.29 | alusion | is it the address I'd connect to like internet wise? |
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| 18:25.33 | chaospsychex | hi |
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| 18:25.50 | chaospsychex | i am having a problem when putting my wireless adapter under LOAD |
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| 18:26.14 | chaospsychex | the signal strength fluctuates wildy, sometimes even loosing connection |
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| 18:26.22 | chaospsychex | i am using squeeze |
| 18:26.59 | chaospsychex | as i said, the problem only manifest when putting the wireless adapter under load, downloading files basically. normal web-browsing/chatting is fine. |
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| 18:27.23 | chaospsychex | i installed the BPO kernel and booted into it, same problem |
| 18:27.34 | chaospsychex | i have a intel pro wireless adapter |
| 18:27.57 | chaospsychex | any ideas what could be causing this ? |
| 18:29.43 | edju | Probably OT, but anyone install OSX in a virtual machine running on a PC laptop? Is it possible? |
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| 18:29.58 | chaospsychex | edju: yes it's possible |
| 18:30.13 | chaospsychex | edju: google hackintosh |
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| 18:31.12 | edju | chaospsychex, Thanks for the pointer. I've been on google, but haven't found anything. Will check. |
| 18:31.14 | abrotman | chaospsychex: did you also get the firmware from BPO ? |
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| 18:31.34 | chaospsychex | abrotman: wasn't needed, only for radeon. |
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| 18:31.51 | abrotman | chaospsychex: i mean for the firmware-iwlwifi package? |
| 18:32.06 | abrotman | judd: versions firmware-iwlwifi |
| 18:32.07 | judd | Package: firmware-iwlwifi on i386 -- lenny/non-free: 0.14+lenny2; lenny-backports/non-free: 0.27~bpo50+1; squeeze/non-free: 0.28+squeeze1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 0.35~bpo60+1; sid/non-free: 0.36; wheezy/non-free: 0.36 |
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| 18:32.38 | chaospsychex | abrotman: no, is it needed ? i assumed since i could connect to a network over wifi there was no need ? didn't see any errors about missing firmware for the wirelss adapter |
| 18:33.13 | abrotman | ok |
| 18:33.23 | chaospsychex | edju: your going down a long road of headaches... |
| 18:33.24 | abrotman | that's an intel pro 2200 ? |
| 18:33.29 | chaospsychex | abrotman: yes |
| 18:33.34 | abrotman | chaospsychex: they have firmware |
| 18:33.38 | abrotman | !ipw2200 |
| 18:33.38 | dpkg | ipw2200 is a Linux kernel driver supporting Intel PRO/Wireless 2200 (802.11bg) and 2915 (802.11a/bg) devices. Firmware is required, ask me about <non-free sources> and install the firmware-ipw2x00 package to provide. http://wiki.debian.org/ipw2200 #ipw2100 on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 18:35.18 | chaospsychex | abrotman: installed, how can i load it without restarting ? |
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| 18:36.28 | abrotman | chaospsychex: you'd have to unload/reload the driver |
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| 18:37.02 | chaospsychex | abrotman: how ? |
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| 18:37.23 | abrotman | man modprobe |
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| 18:38.29 | chaospsychex | how do i find out the name of the module for the ipw2x00 driver ? |
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| 18:39.37 | xingu | chaospsychex: should just be ipw |
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| 18:40.18 | chaospsychex | xingu: ok it's loaded, do i need to restart networking ? |
| 18:40.19 | jelly-home | used to be exactly ipw2200 |
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| 18:40.28 | xingu | jelly's right |
| 18:40.36 | xingu | ipw2200 |
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| 18:41.12 | jelly-home | and it needed rmmod-ing and modprobing again after the firmware got installed |
| 18:41.31 | dvs | modprobe -r |
| 18:41.40 | jelly-home | too long |
| 18:41.52 | chaospsychex | jelly-home: oh god, i did 'sudo modprobe -a ipw' then 'lsmod | grep ipw' and it's showing ipw2100 ? |
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| 18:42.45 | jelly-home | perhaps that's the one your hw uses |
| 18:43.10 | chaospsychex | ok so ipw2100 is loaded, is that it? do i need to restart network services ? |
| 18:44.17 | nkuttler | chaospsychex: do you have the firmware? |
| 18:44.32 | chaospsychex | nkuttler: yes, i installed it already. |
| 18:44.44 | nkuttler | what abrotman said |
| 18:45.07 | nkuttler | see dmesg if the device doesn't come up |
| 18:45.25 | chaospsychex | it always came up, i was just experiencing a weird problem when putting it under load |
| 18:45.46 | chaospsychex | signal strength fluctuations and sometimes even loss of connectivity while under load |
| 18:45.47 | nkuttler | i see. my first guess would be a heat-related hardware problem |
| 18:46.01 | nkuttler | or your access point sucks |
| 18:46.12 | chaospsychex | nkuttler: AP doesn't matter, does it on them all |
| 18:46.19 | chaospsychex | let me see if it still does it though |
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| 18:47.10 | chaospsychex | if i wanna sudo apt-get something how can i specify it to use wlan if i have eth0 connected as well ? |
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| 18:48.05 | chaospsychex | is there some kind of test tool that will simulate a load on the wireless adapter ? |
| 18:48.07 | nkuttler | chaospsychex: see man route |
| 18:48.21 | somiaj | that sounds like a routing issue. Let your machine know what the default internet route is |
| 18:48.43 | Devastator | or simply disconnect your eth0 to do the test.. |
| 18:48.56 | nkuttler | indeed |
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| 18:59.04 | gonzaloaf | hello, I'm using debian wheezy, I have 2 soundcards, my system recognizes the built-in (realtek) but not the pci (soundblaster audigy 2 zs), can somebody help me please? |
| 19:00.28 | sussudio | !sound |
| 19:00.29 | dpkg | [sound] Ask me about <alsa>, <install alsa>, <alsa checklist>. See also <default alsa>, <devdsp>, <dmix>, <microphone>, <oss4>, <pulseaudio>. |
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| 19:04.46 | jelly-home | gonzaloaf: can you paste the "lspci -nn" line corresponding to the unrecognized card? |
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| 19:06.31 | paxcoder | !who |
| 19:06.31 | dpkg | who's on first!! |
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| 19:09.27 | gonzaloaf | jelly-home, sure http://paste.debian.net/204435/ |
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| 19:10.19 | Flynn | Q_Q i wish the business card installer supported usb0 |
| 19:10.24 | gonzaloaf | sussudio, jelly-home: I've checked all the [sound] dpkg's indications and everything seems to be ok |
| 19:10.32 | jelly-home | ,pciid 1102:0004] |
| 19:10.37 | jelly-home | ,pciid 1102:0004 |
| 19:10.38 | judd | [1102:0004] is 'SB Audigy' from 'Creative Labs' with kernel module 'snd-emu10k1' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1102:0004 http://wiki.debian.org/snd-emu10k1 and the out-of-tree 'snd-emu10k1' module. |
| 19:10.57 | jelly-home | that sounds like an old one, "should work" |
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| 19:11.36 | gonzaloaf | jelly-home, it worked well, but now with wheeze not |
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| 19:11.46 | jelly-home | ah |
| 19:12.18 | jelly-home | gonzaloaf: is it visible in "aplay -l" |
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| 19:13.14 | gonzaloaf | jelly-home, I think yes but with a wrong name, as ATI http://paste.debian.net/204438/ |
| 19:13.44 | jelly-home | none of those are audigy, it's all the onboard stuff |
| 19:13.58 | gonzaloaf | jelly-home, well this is the problem then |
| 19:14.12 | jelly-home | ,pciid 1102:0004 --release wheezy |
| 19:14.13 | judd | [1102:0004] is 'SB Audigy' from 'Creative Labs' with kernel module 'snd-emu10k1' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1102:0004 http://wiki.debian.org/snd-emu10k1 and the out-of-tree 'snd-emu10k1' module. |
| 19:14.58 | jelly-home | gonzaloaf: can you verify said kernel module is loaded? |
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| 19:22.05 | gonzaloaf | jelly-home, you mean emu10k1? |
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| 19:23.09 | gonzaloaf | jelly-home, snd 52850 20 snd_timer,snd_seq_device,snd_seq,snd_pcm,snd_hwdep,snd_hda_codec,snd_rawmidi,snd_ac97_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_emu10k1,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_emux_synth,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi |
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| 19:27.25 | jelly-home | ok, wrong line, but it's there |
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| 19:33.13 | gonzaloaf | jelly-home, how can i fix it? |
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| 19:35.00 | jelly-home | hard to say what's wrong with it... you could look at dmesg (or /var/log/kern.log), see if there's anything weird wrt that module |
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| 19:36.50 | angela_ | alguien me podria ayudar con libreoffice? |
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| 19:37.13 | ghostlines | I'm getting a 404 error when trying to retrieve multimedia sources for wheezy. Anyone experiencing something similar? |
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| 19:37.49 | abrotman | did yo ulook at the website? |
| 19:38.41 | angela_ | Can you tell me how to configure libreoffice to run a .Sh |
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| 19:39.56 | SpeedyG | hi, i'm currently running into some disk-space issues but when trying to remove some packages using aptitude, all it wants to do is run an update first which causes the disk-space issue. How can I stop this ? |
| 19:40.40 | abrotman | SpeedyG: done an apt-get clean lately? |
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| 19:41.39 | phogg | angela_: a .sh is probably a shell script, which is never run by libreoffice. What are you doing? |
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| 19:42.30 | SpeedyG | abrotman: just done so, problem is that it tries to remove the installed xen-kernels as a solution ..... |
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| 19:43.23 | abrotman | SpeedyG: might be easier to show us in a pastebin |
| 19:43.49 | zophy | can i identify the brand of a cable modem by port scanning with nmap ? |
| 19:44.05 | angela_ | phogg: attempt to appeal to a command from bash, example kill soffice |
| 19:44.08 | SpeedyG | abrotman: can't do... even ssh gets killed now :( |
| 19:44.40 | abrotman | zophy: doubtful .. but seems easy enough to try |
| 19:44.48 | abrotman | SpeedyG: so what does work ? |
| 19:46.04 | SpeedyG | abrotman: just a sec.. finally got a working ssh connection again.. |
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| 19:46.50 | SpeedyG | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/0fLUku1v |
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| 19:47.19 | Nik05 | hey guys im compiling gcc with make -j on a corei7 |
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| 19:47.25 | SpeedyG | abrotman: problem was, it ran out of disk-space while unpackaging the latest kernel-update and now I can't do anything with aptitude anymore |
| 19:47.32 | Nik05 | and i did this bfore and my system didnt hang |
| 19:47.41 | abrotman | SpeedyG: dpkg --configure -a ? |
| 19:47.44 | Nik05 | but now i got 10 messages saying: |
| 19:47.51 | abrotman | Nik05: your system isn't hung .. it's working really hard |
| 19:48.09 | Nik05 | INFO: task cc1plus:xxxx blocked for more than 120 seconds |
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| 19:48.12 | abrotman | Nik05: you're supposed to give -j an argument, otherwise, it spawns as many as it can |
| 19:48.20 | angela_ | please helpme |
| 19:48.38 | abrotman | help you what? |
| 19:48.39 | Nik05 | abrotman then whats that message? |
| 19:48.40 | abrotman | !es |
| 19:48.41 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 19:48.50 | Nik05 | its in dmesg |
| 19:48.52 | abrotman | Nik05: it's blocked, not hung |
| 19:49.02 | Nik05 | ok and what is blocked? |
| 19:49.11 | SpeedyG | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/e9PnaETX |
| 19:49.16 | Nik05 | and is that normal when compiling? |
| 19:49.45 | abrotman | SpeedyG: and if you install linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 ? |
| 19:50.15 | SpeedyG | abrotman: then it tries to unpack it, runs out of disk space and quits with an 'out of diskspace' error |
| 19:50.32 | SpeedyG | abrotman: which is why I wanted to remove some packages, but now I'm kinda stuck in this loop |
| 19:50.50 | abrotman | SpeedyG: so clean up some disk space .. |
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| 19:50.57 | abrotman | SpeedyG: pastebin 'df -h' |
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| 19:52.18 | Boom | I've been searching to upgrade my linux kernel to 2.6.35, backport only lists 3.2, how can I upgrade? |
| 19:52.38 | abrotman | Boom: what's wrong with the 3.2 ? |
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| 19:52.50 | SpeedyG | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/xbL3YzgD |
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| 19:53.05 | alusion | How do I setup sudo in debian? |
| 19:53.14 | Nik05 | man sudo |
| 19:53.14 | Boom | abrotman: Nothing really. I just wanted to upgrade my kernel to that specific version because I don't need much of the later version of the kernel. |
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| 19:53.22 | Nik05 | and /etc/sudo.conf? :P |
| 19:53.33 | abrotman | alusion: man sudoers |
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| 19:53.44 | abrotman | Boom: then you'd have to compile it yourself |
| 19:54.15 | Boom | abrotman: what do you mean? |
| 19:54.22 | alusion | no way man. |
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| 19:54.47 | abrotman | Boom: there isn't a pre-packaged version of that kernel from Debian .. |
| 19:54.57 | abrotman | alusion: you don't want to read the docs? |
| 19:55.14 | abrotman | SpeedyG: okay, so clean up your / .. what's in /root/ for example ? |
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| 19:56.07 | Boom | abrotman: oh okay. Then what kernel versions have Debian pre-packaged? |
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| 19:56.25 | abrotman | Boom: 2.6.32 in squeeze, and the 3.2 at backports.debian.org |
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| 19:58.04 | Boom | abrotman: okay. Then any other versions, I have to compile it? |
| 19:58.59 | abrotman | yes |
| 19:59.23 | Boom | Alright. Thanks for the reminder. |
| 19:59.27 | abrotman | Boom: but the 3.2 generally works pretty well .. remmeber, it's only 3.x because Linus got tired of looking at 2.x :) |
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| 20:00.39 | Nik05 | something psychological :P |
| 20:00.51 | Nik05 | like firefox going from 3.6 to 15.0 -_- |
| 20:00.56 | ghostlines | what could cause new kernel images to not load by default after upgrade and reboot? |
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| 20:01.09 | nkuttler | ghostlines: not load? |
| 20:01.18 | abrotman | it's not the default |
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| 20:01.30 | abrotman | ghostlines: is it listed at all? |
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| 20:02.04 | ghostlines | it's in /boot/ |
| 20:02.18 | Nik05 | but in grub? |
| 20:02.23 | abrotman | is it listed in the grub config? |
| 20:02.32 | abrotman | ghostlines: where did your new kernel come from ? |
| 20:02.42 | ghostlines | from apt-get update && upgrade |
| 20:02.54 | abrotman | ghostlines: what's your current uname -r ? |
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| 20:03.14 | ghostlines | 3.2.0-3-amd64 |
| 20:03.21 | abrotman | ghostlines: and what new version did you install? |
| 20:03.40 | ghostlines | 3.2.1 |
| 20:03.49 | abrotman | judd: kernels |
| 20:03.50 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.5-trunk-686-pae (3.5.5-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.32-1); wheezy: 3.2.0-3-686-pae (3.2.23-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.3-686-pae (3.2.23-1~bpo60+2); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-46); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-29) |
| 20:03.55 | Hanmac | i search for an copy command that syncs two locations (it should copy all attributes) |
| 20:03.57 | SpeedyG | abrotman: it's empty... but still run into the same issue.... where does the unpacking take place? As a temp solution I might be able to simlink that to a location that has space available ? |
| 20:03.58 | abrotman | ghostlines: where did you get that with apt ? |
| 20:04.37 | abrotman | SpeedyG: can you show us the error when it runs out of room ? |
| 20:04.37 | ghostlines | abrotman, yeah I got it with apt |
| 20:04.43 | abrotman | ghostlines: yes, from where |
| 20:04.55 | ghostlines | I don't follow |
| 20:05.11 | abrotman | ghostlines: what apt source line provides a 3.2.1 kernel ? |
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| 20:06.17 | nkuttler | ghostlines: apt-cache policy <packagename> |
| 20:06.40 | abrotman | as noted above, there is no 3.2.1 in Debian |
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| 20:09.08 | ghostlines | abrotman, ok thx. I got a funky config then. If I run ls -latr in /boot/ I see a initrd.img-3.2.1 that was last modified 30 mins ago |
| 20:09.23 | Nik05 | ok got 23 unexpected failers with checking gcc... |
| 20:09.34 | abrotman | ghostlines: it's not from Debian |
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| 20:10.53 | ghostlines | all my apt sources are from debian wheezy, and I only did a apt-get update && upgrade, so it must be from debian |
| 20:11.19 | nkuttler | ghostlines: apt-cache policy <packagename> |
| 20:11.31 | nkuttler | packagename being linux-image-3.2.1-something |
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| 20:13.11 | ghostlines | nkuttler, linux-image-3.2.1, Installed: 3.2.1-3, Candidate: 3.2.1.-3, Version table: 3.2.1.-3 0, 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 20:13.36 | SpeedyG | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/0BEwA71D |
| 20:13.38 | abrotman | nice candidate .. |
| 20:13.47 | abrotman | ghostlines: pastebin your sources.list |
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| 20:14.39 | nkuttler | ghostlines: don't type stuff into your irc client, paste it somewhere |
| 20:15.16 | abrotman | SpeedyG: so your / is full .. if you look in /boot/ how many vmlinuz files are there? |
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| 20:16.16 | ghostlines | nkuttler, http://pastebin.com/bD7NcpNa |
| 20:16.46 | SpeedyG | abrotman: 1, and one .old |
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| 20:16.56 | nkuttler | ghostlines: was never in debian |
| 20:17.26 | abrotman | SpeedyG: you're going to have to find something in / to clean up .. |
| 20:17.26 | SpeedyG | abrotman: pointing to an amd64 and amd64-xen file both approx. 9.8MB in sizee |
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| 20:18.03 | abrotman | ghostlines: that file doesn't exist in Debian .. again, where did you get it ? |
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| 20:19.05 | SpeedyG | abrotman: hm, somehow cleaning out /root didnt work out previously. no idea what went wrong |
| 20:19.20 | SpeedyG | now just removed entire /root (and rebuild it) and now all's gone |
| 20:19.28 | SpeedyG | well, all in /root |
| 20:19.32 | SpeedyG | not all fortunately :) |
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| 20:19.44 | ghostlines | abrotman, , I must have screwed up my config or compiled a kernel a long time ago. I still don't know why apt-get would show me this new kernel during an upgrade and it was just modified |
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| 20:23.47 | Janos | hey there, question, there is a dependency problem with a package on squeeze, this problem seems to be fixed in wheezy, is it worthy reporting it ? this is not a security problem |
| 20:23.52 | SpeedyG | abrotman: seems that /lib is filling up quite quickly. Might it be safe to move that to (for instance) /home/lib and create a symlink in /lib ? |
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| 20:28.43 | abrotman | SpeedyG: you can't do that |
| 20:29.03 | SpeedyG | abrotman: hm , ok thanks for the advice :) all seems to be upgraded now |
| 20:29.06 | abrotman | Janos: describe the bug |
| 20:29.32 | SpeedyG | abrotman: however, due to not wanting to risk any of my sleep-time, I will not reboot until i've got time to fix whatever's bound to go wrong after this update of the kernel :) |
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| 20:35.13 | help_ | hello guys can some one tell me how to install a driver more my soundcard |
| 20:35.15 | help_ | aplay: device_list:235: no soundcards found... |
| 20:35.59 | help_ | i have 3400 series intell sound |
| 20:36.04 | help_ | but im so stuck |
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| 20:36.36 | abrotman | help_: uname -r? |
| 20:36.48 | help_ | 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 20:36.56 | abrotman | !tell help_ about bpo |
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| 20:37.22 | help_ | abrotman, but with bpo i can't use dkms with the nvidia driver |
| 20:37.23 | help_ | :( |
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| 20:44.11 | derric | Hello, Why does debian use bash as a default shell, alhough use #!/bin/sh for the default shebang in system scripts? |
| 20:44.32 | JyZyXEL | how do i list known bad blocks? |
| 20:44.51 | zykotick9 | derric: just a guess, but /bin/sh is more "portable" between systems, then /bin/bash... |
| 20:44.55 | derric | JyZyXEL: Use fsck. |
| 20:45.28 | JyZyXEL | i don't think it has any listing commands though? |
| 20:45.49 | JyZyXEL | theres some commands to add blocks to the list |
| 20:46.20 | derric | zykotick9: Yes, although in debian /bin/sh -> bash. |
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| 20:47.00 | zykotick9 | derric: well, on my system /bin/sh -> dash, but i get your point |
| 20:47.00 | derric | JyZyXEL: Well, either that or get the manufacturer's dianostic utility. |
| 20:47.15 | JyZyXEL | whose the manufacturer of ext4? |
| 20:47.55 | zykotick9 | wonders if software can actually be "manufactured" ;) |
| 20:48.27 | JyZyXEL | yeah it sounds weird |
| 20:48.50 | derric | zykotick9: I asked because I wrote a script for fluxbox, and someone asked me to make it sh compatable. On my machine since /bin/sh -> bash I have sh emultation, and a lack of any real way to test compatablity. |
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| 20:49.26 | JyZyXEL | dumpe2fs -b was what i was looking for |
| 20:49.55 | zykotick9 | derric: sorry, my only suggestion as a "true" test would be to use a non-gnu/linux system. best of luck (i'm SURE you know more on the subject then me) |
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| 20:51.27 | derric | JyZyXEL: Anyway, if you have bad blocks showing up on your drive as reported by fsck, then either two things has happened, one the bad block cashe on the drive has filled up, and that means the drive is one it's way out, although linux will still manage it all the way down to useless, or something has corrupted the bad block flag. in which case running a bad block test should clear the one false set bad. |
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| 20:53.35 | derric | zykotick9: I was trying to avoid that. |
| 20:54.16 | zykotick9 | derric: as would i. i haven't even run fbsd for several years... except for a vm test now and again. |
| 20:54.29 | JyZyXEL | the e2fsck -c seems to be the tool to check for bad blocks |
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| 20:54.57 | JyZyXEL | BLAH, it doesn't even work on a mounted filesystem |
| 20:55.17 | derric | zykotick9: lol, that what the guy was using who asked me for the sh version. |
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| 20:55.37 | zykotick9 | JyZyXEL: trying to fsck a mounted filesystem probably isn't a good idea... just sayin' |
| 20:55.46 | derric | JyZyXEL: Oh yeah, only run fsck on unmounted drives. |
| 20:55.48 | h_boyz | I have problem with installer nvidia,desktop crash |
| 20:55.57 | JyZyXEL | derric: it just runs badblocks anyways |
| 20:56.02 | help_ | hey guys is there any way to make intel 3400 series sound working on 2.6.32-5 .. ? |
| 20:56.05 | JyZyXEL | the manual says so |
| 20:56.09 | JyZyXEL | and read-only |
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| 20:57.00 | zykotick9 | h_boyz: i'd suggest adding two details to your issue 1) what version of debian you are using and 2) HOW you are installing the nvidia drivers (perhaps #3 should be, what card you use ;) |
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| 20:57.13 | lionair | hello. is there a debian installer that allows you to choose the bootloader of your choice? |
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| 20:57.30 | derric | JyZyXEL: A real bad block test needs to read and write to the block several times to verify that it's good. That's why I recommended the manufacturer's utility. IMHO They do the best job. |
| 20:57.31 | zykotick9 | lionair: you want to use lilo? why? |
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| 20:57.38 | lionair | zykotick9: syslinux |
| 20:58.04 | JyZyXEL | derric: well reading is enough, if it can't read it its a bad block |
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| 20:58.46 | derric | JyZyXEL: It's a place to start. Then you can always get the utility if you want to delve deeper. |
| 20:59.05 | JyZyXEL | that shouldn't require unmounted filesystem |
| 20:59.50 | JyZyXEL | If you continue you ***WILL*** cause ***SEVERE*** filesystem damage. |
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| 21:00.00 | JyZyXEL | sounds harsh for a read-only operation |
| 21:00.15 | zykotick9 | JyZyXEL: requiring the file-system check, to additionally see if that particular block is being used at the moment, seems like a huge unnecessary burdon to me. |
| 21:00.40 | derric | JyZyXEL: You just need to unmount the partition for fsck. A dianostic utility will come on a boot floppy or CD, so then the whole fs is unmounted. |
| 21:01.10 | JyZyXEL | you don't simply unmount that which is mounted as / |
| 21:01.14 | derric | JyZyXEL: Only run fsck on a unmounted partition. |
| 21:01.35 | JyZyXEL | i could find the badblocks by reading the partition with dd :p |
| 21:01.38 | rwp | Anyone remember the generic package email address? It is something like package@debbugs.debian.org but I can't find the doc describing it. |
| 21:01.43 | derric | JyZyXEL: Are you trying to check your root patition? |
| 21:01.55 | JyZyXEL | it would be extremely hard to map those blocks to anytihing meaninful tho |
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| 21:04.58 | rwp | lionair, AFAIK you can install normally but choose Advanced, then choose to not use any bootloader at all and complete the installation. Then as a second phase install syslinux to boot the installed system. I am not aware of any canned install media that includes syslinux but of course they must exist somewhere. |
| 21:05.03 | Agiofws | hello |
| 21:05.48 | Janos | abramart, well, the package libcgi-application-extra-plugin-bundle-perl includes the perl module CGI::Application::Plugin::JSON which in turn uses module JSON::Any provided by package libjson-any-perl, but package libcgi-application-extra-plugin-bundle-perl does not depend on libjson-any-perl, so end up having to install libjson-any-perl after some checkup becasue of incorrect dependecy |
| 21:05.54 | abrotman | ? |
| 21:05.55 | Agiofws | i am trying to burn a net install iso on to a medium an di am getting this error from K3b can anyone help me solve this issue ? |
| 21:05.58 | Agiofws | http://codepad.org/TGkswvEu |
| 21:05.59 | rwp | Agiofws, Don't say hello. No need. Just say what you want. |
| 21:06.22 | Agiofws | i've just waisted 4 blank dvd's ftb |
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| 21:06.48 | derric | Agiofws: I hate it when that happens. |
| 21:06.55 | Agiofws | i've also tried brasero |
| 21:07.13 | Janos | abrotman, this is fixed in wheezy from what i can see in packages.debian.org, and i suppose this won´t be fixed for squeeze so i was wondering if it was worth reporting |
| 21:07.17 | r15 | hi, 6.0.6 is the latest version? |
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| 21:07.24 | Agiofws | derric, ya but its consecutive |
| 21:07.52 | abrotman | Janos: you can if you think others might hit the same problem |
| 21:08.05 | derric | Agiofws: It's been so long since I tried to burn a cd on my linux box, I forgot what I used to use. |
| 21:08.23 | r15 | i have 6.0.6 installed, is it the latest one? |
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| 21:08.29 | Agiofws | just wonder why the heck |
| 21:08.34 | zykotick9 | r15: latest "stable" yes. |
| 21:08.34 | rwp | Agiofws, If you have an image you can try writing it using either wodim (as k3b is trying to do) or growisofs which can write them directly. |
| 21:08.36 | Agiofws | r15, i think so |
| 21:08.48 | derric | Agiofws: Maybe is just crappy CDs. |
| 21:08.51 | rwp | See the example in the growisofs man page. |
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| 21:09.07 | Agiofws | rwp, i tried that but i still get an error |
| 21:09.24 | rwp | Sounds like a problem with your DVD writer then. Try a different set of hardware? |
| 21:09.26 | r15 | i had debian installed in july or august, and keep doing apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, means my distro is upgraded to the latest stable? |
| 21:09.31 | Agiofws | http://imagebin.org/233665 |
| 21:09.47 | rwp | r15, 6.0.6 is current. |
| 21:10.12 | rwp | r15, But you should already be installing security upgrades routinely, beyond any single release point. |
| 21:10.12 | zykotick9 | r15: "more-or-less" for kernel updates you might need to use "apt-get distupgrade" in place of upgrade... minor detail. |
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| 21:10.37 | rwp | Err... That's "apt-get dist-upgrade" |
| 21:10.43 | zykotick9 | rwp: thanks. |
| 21:11.00 | Agiofws | rwp, growisofs -Z /dev/hda=/mnt/blender/dbianNetinstIso64bit/debian-6.0.6-amd64-netinst.iso ? |
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| 21:11.29 | r15 | in /etc/debian_version appearing 6.0.6 , i am using bpo kernel |
| 21:11.43 | zykotick9 | Agiofws: are you sure hda is correct? i doubt it... |
| 21:11.48 | derric | rwp: To keep my system updated I use dselect. Just fire it up, select update, then install. |
| 21:11.50 | rwp | Agiofws, Should work. The man page suggests -R -J for Rock-Ridge and Joliet extensions too. (long filenames) |
| 21:11.51 | Agiofws | yes |
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| 21:12.27 | rwp | Agiofws, Might want to try a DVD-RW so that you can erase and try again and not make a coaster. Always good to have an RW on hand for such things. |
| 21:12.29 | Agiofws | agiofws@ixus:/mnt/blender$dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/hda |
| 21:12.29 | Agiofws | INQUIRY: [MATSHITA][DVD-RAM UJ-860S ][1.00] |
| 21:12.29 | Agiofws | GET [CURRENT] CONFIGURATION: |
| 21:12.29 | Agiofws | :-( no media mounted, exiting... |
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| 21:12.43 | r15 | distupgrade should not be an issue? i was always wondering why kernel upgrade was skipped. |
| 21:12.44 | Agiofws | sorry guys |
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| 21:13.01 | rwp | Agiofws, Also I recommend the netinst network install images. They are smaller. They can fit on a USB storage device. |
| 21:13.21 | Agiofws | it is a net install no ? |
| 21:13.54 | derric | r15: dselect seems to handle kernel updates just fine. although I always build my own and usually stay ahead of the current kernel. |
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| 21:14.09 | zykotick9 | rwp: i consider "netinstall" the best way to install debian. custom tailored to exactly what you want/need = no cruft ;) netinstall ftw. |
| 21:14.11 | rwp | Is /dev/hda your dvd burner address? What kernel are you using? All of the newer kernels use /dev/sdX device naming now. You must be running an ancient kernel. |
| 21:14.24 | Agiofws | rw-r--r-- 1 agiofws agiofws 168M Oct 28 14:43 debian-6.0.6-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 21:14.28 | rwp | zykotick9, Agreed! |
| 21:14.51 | Agiofws | rwp, no i am using quite a new kernel |
| 21:15.03 | Agiofws | Linux ixus 3.1.0-rc9 #2 SMP Mon Oct 17 20:17:50 EEST 2011 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 21:15.06 | rwp | Then /dev/hda can't be your cd/dvd device. |
| 21:15.23 | derric | rwp: Just out of curiosity what does uname -r report? |
| 21:15.48 | rwp | derric, Uhm... Did you mean to ask that uname -r question of Agiofws? |
| 21:15.54 | zykotick9 | rwp: i agree /dev/hda is probably NOT a burner... but i already mentioned that to the OP ;) |
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| 21:15.56 | r15 | derric: just gave apt-get dist-upgrade , rebooting now. |
| 21:16.02 | r15 | brb |
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| 21:16.18 | derric | rwp: Maybe, I'm confused... |
| 21:16.43 | Mohsen_Hassani | Hello guys. I just dist-upgraded my Debian to sid. I can't login to my account using gnome! |
| 21:16.46 | derric | rwp: I meant to whoever was trying to burn the cd. |
| 21:16.47 | Agiofws | it is a burner i have burned many cd's in the past |
| 21:17.12 | Mohsen_Hassani | I enter my password, the screen goes black, and then returns to the login screen again |
| 21:17.15 | derric | Agiofws: Maybe it wore out... |
| 21:17.36 | Agiofws | broken ? |
| 21:17.38 | derric | Agiofws: I hate it when that happens too. |
| 21:17.39 | zykotick9 | Agiofws: hda used to be used for IDE HD. but even those use scsi-emulation these days in linux, so appear as /dev/sd |
| 21:18.01 | derric | Agiofws: Have you tried cleaning the lense? |
| 21:18.02 | rainfyre | Mohsen_Hassani: welcome to sid! |
| 21:18.09 | Agiofws | it can read though you think it can't write ? |
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| 21:18.23 | Mohsen_Hassani | rainfyre, It happened once when I was using wheezy too. |
| 21:18.31 | rwp | Mohsen_Hassani, Probably an error in the X11 startup. Log into the text console to debug and fix it. Cntrl-Alt-F1 to get to the first text console. Log in there. Look at the .xsession-errors file. Alt-F7 to get back to the XDM screen. |
| 21:19.06 | rainfyre | Mohsen_Hassani: can you get to a tty1 an login there and run startx? |
| 21:19.14 | Agiofws | derric, ear bud and alcohol ? |
| 21:19.29 | rainfyre | ^^^ what rwp said so eloquently :P |
| 21:19.53 | Agiofws | agiofws@ixus:/mnt/blender$dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/hda |
| 21:19.53 | Agiofws | INQUIRY: [MATSHITA][DVD-RAM UJ-860S ][1.00] |
| 21:19.56 | derric | Agiofws: I use a cleaner CD with little brushes on it. |
| 21:20.03 | Agiofws | lol |
| 21:20.05 | rwp | Agiofws, Often a problem (read but no write) as it depends upon the media. Older media might work. Newer media might fail. The burners use rom tables. Sometimes newer media isn't listed in those tables and therefore the burner falls back to default values which don't work. |
| 21:20.08 | Mohsen_Hassani | rainfyre, yes I cant access the other tty1, the gdm is already started; |
| 21:20.32 | Agiofws | so i need to flash my dvd burner ? |
| 21:20.38 | rwp | Agiofws, I have exactly that problem with one of my burners. I can only burn older media in it. |
| 21:20.40 | Mohsen_Hassani | rwp, I don't have file named xsession-erros; I have xsession.options, xsession.d xsessn |
| 21:20.58 | rainfyre | Mohsen_Hassani: ctrl-alt-f1 through f6 aren't working? |
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| 21:21.13 | Mohsen_Hassani | rainfyre, yes, they all work. |
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| 21:21.38 | rainfyre | Mohsen_Hassani: can you log in there? |
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| 21:21.50 | rwp | Mohsen_Hassani, Then look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and look for errors. Errors start with EE at the front of the line. |
| 21:21.53 | Mohsen_Hassani | rainfyre, yes, via my username and also root |
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| 21:22.12 | zykotick9 | rainfyre: for Mohsen_Hassani s/cant/can/ - i believe. "yes i can't" is a difficult english translation... ;) |
| 21:22.38 | rainfyre | Mohsen_Hassani: loggin in with your user,run ls -a |
| 21:22.47 | rainfyre | hey zykotick9 :) |
| 21:23.03 | rainfyre | zykotick9: it's "yes, I can't" |
| 21:23.41 | Agiofws | what can i do ? |
| 21:23.50 | Mohsen_Hassani | Sorry, :)) I meant yes I can. :D |
| 21:24.40 | rainfyre | Mohsen_Hassani: do you see .xsession-errors in your home directory? |
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| 21:25.32 | rwp | Agiofws, Unfortunately it is difficult to debug burners remotely. I recommend using a netinst image on a usb stick. Reusable. Quick. Small. All Debian install images can now be copied directly to a USB and installed that way. Which is nice. |
| 21:26.29 | r15 | dist-upgrade is complete, the only issue which i face with the wifi connectivity, i have one T420 lenovo and one hp-dv6 notebook, |
| 21:26.29 | rainfyre | that's slick |
| 21:26.41 | rainfyre | r15: what did you upgrade to? |
| 21:26.46 | r15 | hp notebook shows very low signal strength |
| 21:26.49 | Agiofws | rwp, yes but how do i make the stick bootable ? |
| 21:27.05 | rwp | Agiofws, It is the default now. |
| 21:27.11 | rwp | So nothing special needs to be done. |
| 21:27.17 | zykotick9 | rwp: re hybrid-isos, do you happen to know if there is a technical difference between using cat and dd for them? debian recommends cat, ubuntu seems to recommend dd? |
| 21:27.18 | r15 | rainfyre: just upgrdaed bpo kernel. |
| 21:27.44 | Mohsen_Hassani | rainfyre, yes, I have the file xsession-errors and I opened it using nano; It contains 3 lines. The 3rd line is written "OpenSSL version mismatch. Built against 1000005f, you have 1000103f |
| 21:27.46 | rainfyre | r15: AHH OK |
| 21:28.03 | Agiofws | rwp, what do you mean its the default ? |
| 21:28.11 | rwp | zykotick9, Shouldn't matter. I expect dd could be faster due to an optimal block size. But other than copy performance both should yield the same result. |
| 21:28.29 | zykotick9 | rwp: thanks. |
| 21:28.34 | JoshuaP | Is there a way I can get into a tty session through SSH? |
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| 21:28.38 | rwp | Agiofws, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en |
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| 21:29.17 | r15 | Add wheezy in the /etc/apt/sources.list << http://wiki.debian.org/OpenStackHowto |
| 21:29.36 | rwp | JoshuaP, Some context please? |
| 21:29.48 | rwp | ssh yields a tty session by default. |
| 21:29.56 | rwp | So you must have something else in mind. |
| 21:30.07 | r15 | ok, wheezy is the next release. |
| 21:30.21 | JoshuaP | rwp, let get into the ctrl+alt tty from the SSH console. |
| 21:30.49 | rwp | JoshuaP, Nope. Can't be done as far as I know. But you could use a helper such as screen or tmux and then connect to it. |
| 21:31.04 | Agiofws | SCSI error on write(1520,16): See MMC specs: Sense Key 4 "Drive error", ASC 03 ASCQ 00 |
| 21:31.14 | rwp | If you use screen (or tmux, I am familiar with screen) then start it and you can connect to it again later. |
| 21:32.27 | zykotick9 | rwp: screen ftw as well ;) i'd consider screen my "main" windows manager. |
| 21:32.44 | rwp | zykotick9, I can see that great minds think alike! :-) |
| 21:32.57 | zykotick9 | rwp: and fools seldom differ ;) |
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| 21:33.07 | rwp | rofl |
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| 21:34.28 | ksuhku | would the chvt command be of use? |
| 21:35.13 | rwp | Mohsen_Hassani, That openssl error shouldn't stop X from starting. I don't think. Keep looking. The problem is likely something else. |
| 21:35.24 | zykotick9 | ksuhku: thanks. i don't think i've ever seen that before. |
| 21:35.59 | ksuhku | zykotick9, :) |
| 21:36.26 | Mohsen_Hassani | rwp, Is there a file to log the problem while logging in? |
| 21:36.30 | zykotick9 | ksuhku: didn't actually do what i expected. and required root access ;) but still, thanks - never seen it before. |
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| 21:37.16 | rwp | Mohsen_Hassani, Yes. The $HOME/.xsession-errors file. |
| 21:37.56 | Mohsen_Hassani | rwp, I checked it; it was containing the three lines I talked about; and the OpenSSL |
| 21:38.24 | rwp | ksuhku, chvt looks like fun but won't attach it to an ssh login if that was the context. |
| 21:38.46 | ksuhku | it was |
| 21:39.14 | rwp | Mohsen_Hassani, And therefore I think the problem is elsewhere. |
| 21:39.59 | rwp | zykotick9, chvt didn't require root access for me. Allowed me to log into a vt and change to a different vt through the command. |
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| 21:40.40 | zykotick9 | rwp: from a user account i get "VT_ACTIVATE: Operation not permitted"? not really an issue... for me. |
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| 21:42.41 | rwp | zykotick9, You got that error from a linux vt console? Or did you try it in an xterm? It only works when run from a vt console. Alt-F1, log in, try it there. |
| 21:42.57 | Dan39 | ive got a default debian 6 install on ovh server, with 2 SSD and 2 HDD. when look at mdadm setup, it has md1 setup twice. seems really weird :| |
| 21:42.58 | zykotick9 | rwp: from X - i'd guess that's the cause! |
| 21:43.28 | zykotick9 | rwp: xterm bah, urxvt ftw ;) |
| 21:43.52 | rwp | zykotick9, I am still an xterm type of guy. ;-) |
| 21:44.14 | zykotick9 | rwp: s/xterm/poor ncurses font support/ ;) |
| 21:44.17 | rwp | Dan39, pastebin what looks strange and post the url? |
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| 21:44.48 | rwp | I am not noticing any curses problems with xterm. Works for me. |
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| 21:45.17 | zykotick9 | rwp: i even had issues with alsamixer... well, glad you don't have issues. |
| 21:45.18 | asarch | postgresql |
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| 21:45.35 | rwp | alsamixer works fine for me. (shrug) |
| 21:45.45 | rwp | Most importantly mutt works fine for me. |
| 21:45.53 | rwp | lives in mutt |
| 21:45.55 | zykotick9 | rwp: i also love mutt |
| 21:46.23 | Dan39 | https://pastee.org/kf65c |
| 21:46.25 | rwp | Mohsen_Hassani, Sorry not much help for your XDM login problem. You likely have some error in the startup sequence. |
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| 21:47.10 | rwp | Mohsen_Hassani, Try creating a different user so that it will have a pritine /home/testuser directory with a password that you know and then log in as that test user. If that works then you know the problem is in your $HOME directory startup files somewhere. |
| 21:47.21 | Mohsen_Hassani | rwp, Do you think /var/log/auth.log can be helpful? |
| 21:47.39 | Mohsen_Hassani | rwp, I already created another user; but no luck! |
| 21:47.45 | rwp | Probably not. I expect it would say that you can log in. But the session dies after that point. |
| 21:48.02 | rwp | A pristine new user also has the login problem? That is a good data point. |
| 21:48.45 | Dan39 | seems really weird |
| 21:48.58 | rwp | Dan39, Ah, yes, I see. The primary number is the same for two different arrays with different UUIDs. |
| 21:49.04 | rwp | It may look weird but it actually makes sense. |
| 21:49.05 | Dan39 | seems like the whole mds are setup wrong |
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| 21:49.20 | Dan39 | ... |
| 21:49.22 | rwp | You can reset the array number by rewriting the superblock on the array. Let me consult my notes and man pages. |
| 21:49.35 | Mohsen_Hassani | rwp, I don't have the command 'startx' do you think it's related to my problem? |
| 21:49.47 | rwp | I sometimes get that when I move an array from one machine to another or when I boot a live cd and it tries to automatically mount the arrays. |
| 21:50.06 | Dan39 | yea but with the -Ds output, it only lists 2 of the arrays |
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| 21:50.19 | Dan39 | and with the HDD setup, it seems like there should only be 2 |
| 21:50.36 | rwp | Mohsen_Hassani, startx is in the xinit package. I find it strange that xinit isn't installed by default. But that may be a clue. Maybe you are missing an important pacakge or two in the X system? Did something get removed recently? |
| 21:51.18 | Dan39 | and here is the output of mdadm -D /dev/md1... https://pastee.org/4pfz9 |
| 21:51.36 | Dan39 | the first 2 SSDs are only 40GB and then the HDDs are 2TB |
| 21:51.38 | rwp | Dan39, Okay, I take it back. That does seem strange. |
| 21:51.40 | lukas` | Mohsen_Hassani: what desktop manager are you using? what graphic card do you have? |
| 21:51.54 | Mohsen_Hassani | rwp, I didn't remove anything; I just moved from wheezy to sid; gnome-session is already installed; do I need to re-install it? The reason I said this, is because I think startx is installed by gnome-session. |
| 21:51.56 | rwp | Dan39, What is started? What is in /proc/mdstat as running? |
| 21:52.14 | Mohsen_Hassani | lukas`, I have nvidia, and I use gdm3 |
| 21:52.31 | Dan39 | ahttps://pastee.org/pu9x5 |
| 21:52.50 | Dan39 | hmm |
| 21:52.54 | lukas` | Mohsen_Hassani: if you try to start it, what does dmesg | tail -n say? |
| 21:53.08 | rwp | Dan39, In any case, read the mdadm man page section surrounding --super-minor as I have had to use it to reset the device numbers before. But note that might not be your issue at this moment. But you should know about it anyway. |
| 21:53.10 | lukas` | Mohsen_Hassani: ... do you have the nvidia-drivers properly installed? |
| 21:53.31 | Dan39 | im thinking i will just redo them |
| 21:53.42 | Dan39 | i dont have any data anywheres |
| 21:53.49 | Dan39 | repartitions the HDDs |
| 21:54.03 | rwp | I think Mohsen_Hassani must be after X starting because apparently he can log into the xdm/gdm/gdm3/kdm/lightdm graphical login manager and if that is running then X has already started. Right? |
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| 21:54.03 | Dan39 | into their own md raid0 |
| 21:54.08 | Dan39 | hmm |
| 21:54.10 | Mohsen_Hassani | lukas`, yes, it was working good on wheezy; and I still see the nvidia screen just before seeing the login screen. |
| 21:54.37 | lukas` | Mohsen_Hassani: I guess, you have to install it again if sid used newr version of kernel |
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| 21:54.53 | lukas` | Mohsen_Hassani: ... since it makes some kernel drivers |
| 21:55.03 | Dan39 | i think its just OVH messin up the setup tbh |
| 21:55.05 | indrora | I'm unable to start DBus on Squeeze after doing a base install. |
| 21:55.27 | lukas` | indrora: what does it say if you try so? |
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| 21:56.08 | rwp | Dan39, I know there is also an mdadm command to clear the superblock so as to remove the previous raid configuration. Would be useful to clear everything before you restart everything. But I don't see it at the moment. |
| 21:56.23 | Dan39 | yes thats how ive done it before :P |
| 21:56.35 | lukas` | Mohsen_Hassani: try to reinstall the nvidia-drivers, check uname -a and ls -l /usr/src/linux |
| 21:56.35 | Agiofws | rwp, ... |
| 21:56.50 | Mohsen_Hassani | I wanted to apt-get install --reinstall gdm3, it didn't install anything; the same thing for apt-get install --reinstall gnome-session; |
| 21:57.02 | Mohsen_Hassani | I did apt-get dist-upgrade, and it's installing nvidia drivers |
| 21:57.08 | rwp | Agiofws, Any luck? What is your current status? Still trying to burn a disk? |
| 21:57.18 | lukas` | Mohsen_Hassani: sounds promissing |
| 21:57.22 | Mohsen_Hassani | I think lukas` was right! I have to wait till it downloads and installs them |
| 21:57.42 | Agiofws | can i install gparted.iso rescue disk on one partition and the netinstall.iso of debian on the second partition of a usb stick and boot either with grub |
| 21:58.01 | rwp | Spiffy! |
| 21:58.06 | simonlnu | you can't have 2 simultaneous install runs |
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| 21:58.20 | Agiofws | no but i boot with either |
| 21:58.30 | Mohsen_Hassani | I wonder why it didn't install them when I first did the dist-upgrade!? Because I was dist-upgrading in gnome (guake)? |
| 21:59.09 | indrora | lukas`: when I start dbus, I get no error message. When I attempt to get its status, it tells me the PID file doesn't exist. |
| 21:59.13 | rwp | Dan39, Aha! It is the --zero-superblock option I was looking to remember. |
| 21:59.27 | lukas` | Mohsen_Hassani: it might have tried but may have not succeeded |
| 21:59.31 | Dan39 | yea its in the wikipedia article |
| 21:59.33 | Dan39 | :P |
| 21:59.38 | indrora | lukas`: 'm currently attempting to start it by way of sudo /etc/init.d/dbus start && /etc/init.d/dbus status |
| 21:59.59 | Agiofws | ? |
| 22:00.05 | indrora | lukas`: tells me the dbus PID file doesn't exist. /var/run/dbus/ is empty. |
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| 22:00.11 | Dan39 | hmm no /boot setup, its just in the same partition as / i guess |
| 22:00.20 | zykotick9 | indrora: you need a second sudo for your command to work! |
| 22:00.33 | lukas` | indrora: what does dmesg or tail /var/log/messages say? |
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| 22:01.01 | rwp | Agiofws, Your use of grub to boot the netinst iso is clever and good. But note that if you had copied the netinst iso directly to the raw usb device then it should have booted okay just by itself. Works for me. |
| 22:01.35 | rwp | Agiofws, The difference is the difference between /dev/sdg1 and /dev/sdg where sdg1 is a partition and sdg is the full raw device. |
| 22:01.40 | zykotick9 | indrora: sorry, I'm wrong. you don't need sudo for status. my bad. |
| 22:01.46 | indrora | lukas`: /var/log/messages doesn't exist. |
| 22:01.57 | simonlnu | msessage* |
| 22:01.59 | Athas | I just installed Debian, and I am using XDM as my login manager. However, when I login through XDM, I am immediately logged out again. Inspecting the output from my .xinitrc suggests that the DISPLAY variable is not set properly (it seems to be :0, which is "unavailable" according to the error messages). If I log in through a console, then run 'startx', it works fine, though. What could be the problem? |
| 22:02.01 | simonlnu | mes* |
| 22:02.23 | zykotick9 | Athas: do you have a WM/DE installed to log into? |
| 22:02.25 | lukas` | indrora: what does ls -ltr /var/log | tail -n 2 say? |
| 22:02.48 | Athas | zykotick9: yes, XDM executes my ~/.xinitrc, which works fine when run by 'startx'. |
| 22:02.52 | zykotick9 | Athas: why use xdm? very old school. |
| 22:02.58 | Athas | It's simple. |
| 22:03.01 | indrora | lukas`: wtmp and lastlog |
| 22:03.04 | lukas` | zykotick9: and lightweight |
| 22:03.08 | rwp | Athas, xdm does not use the .xinitrc file. xdm uses the .xsession file. Anything there? |
| 22:03.14 | simonlnu | nothing wrong with xdm |
| 22:03.17 | indrora | lastlog is from this morning when I did the install. |
| 22:03.17 | zykotick9 | Athas: really, a DM that uses .xinitrc? never heard of that. |
| 22:03.20 | lukas` | indrora: aptitude search ~isyslog |
| 22:03.28 | zykotick9 | lukas`: slim for a light dm ;) |
| 22:03.30 | Athas | rwp: oh, right, .xsession is a symlink to my .xinitrc. |
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| 22:03.38 | lukas` | zykotick9: have never tried |
| 22:03.40 | Athas | Is that a problem? |
| 22:03.44 | Agiofws | rwp, i know the difference but how doi get it to work |
| 22:03.47 | simonlnu | no |
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| 22:03.53 | simonlnu | not a problem |
| 22:03.54 | indrora | lukas`: II rsyslog - rsyslogd |
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| 22:03.59 | rwp | It is a shell script. I would use 'set -x' and trace the output. |
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| 22:04.15 | rwp | BTW I am also using xdm. :-) |
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| 22:04.39 | simonlnu | i used it for a long time |
| 22:04.46 | indrora | lukas`: Does it change anything that I started from the `debian-live-standard` usb to install? |
| 22:04.55 | Agiofws | mounted the 2GB stick and partitioned it with 2 primary 16FAT partitions with cfdisk... |
| 22:05.16 | Agiofws | how do i format a file system on the 2 partitions ? |
| 22:05.29 | simonlnu | why not just cat the thign to the stick? |
| 22:05.29 | rwp | Athas, And btw xdm (and others) only use ~/.xsession if you log in using the "default" session. If you pick one explicitly such as gnome or kde or whatever then it uses the specific system config and avoids loading your user .xsession file. |
| 22:05.30 | Agiofws | when it has to be unmouned ? |
| 22:05.37 | simonlnu | thing |
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| 22:05.48 | Athas | rwp: if definitely runs my .xsession, though. I can see the output in my .xsession-errors. |
| 22:05.51 | lukas` | indrora: using some standard script or debootstrap? |
| 22:05.51 | Agiofws | because i waht to dual boot 2 iso's ? |
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| 22:06.11 | indrora | lukas`: debootstrap -- Whatever the menu had for "install" |
| 22:06.12 | Agiofws | but would it boot ? i don;t think so |
| 22:06.17 | simonlnu | rwp: that's true of gdm kdm and similar ones. xdm does load ~/.xsession |
| 22:06.27 | rwp | Agiofws, Normally for the installation media there is no need to dual boot. So normally you would copy the iso image directly to the usb device and overwrite the partition table and everything all in one go. |
| 22:06.31 | rwp | If you want to do something different that is fine. |
| 22:06.34 | simonlnu | otherwise it loads the fallback ;) |
| 22:07.15 | lukas` | indrora: try dpkg-reconfigure rsyslog |
| 22:07.15 | rwp | Athas, Good. I just mentioned the problem because otherwise people have spent a lot of time trying to debug a script that isn't getting run. |
| 22:07.33 | Agiofws | rwp, yes but i need to resize my HD before i net install |
| 22:07.38 | indrora | lukas`: rsyslog: package not installed or not found. |
| 22:07.56 | indrora | the `live` installs must be broken somehow |
| 22:08.01 | rwp | Agiofws, I recommend using the debian-installer to resize existing partitions during the installation phase. |
| 22:08.03 | lukas` | indrora: try dpkg-reconfigure rsyslogd |
| 22:08.20 | rwp | But again, you can do anything you want. It is okay. There are a zillion ways to do almost all of these things. |
| 22:08.34 | indrora | lukas`: same error. |
| 22:09.27 | Athas | rwp: I think I've figured it out. Apparently, on Debian, .xsession is not run in a login shell, so my .profile is not being read. |
| 22:09.31 | Agiofws | rwp, i think gparted will give me a better view of my partitions instead of using curses to arrange them |
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| 22:09.38 | rwp | Athas, That is correct. |
| 22:10.05 | rwp | Athas, On Debian if you want a login shell you need to set your .xsession file (or any file it is symlinked to) up for it. |
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| 22:10.13 | rwp | I don't like it. I have ranted about that often. |
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| 22:10.19 | lukas` | indrora: hmmm ... that means something ... aptitude update && aptitude install rsyslog |
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| 22:10.37 | rwp | I use "#!/bin/bash --login" as the first line of the .xsession script so that it loads it as a login shell and bash will load my .profile and so forth. |
| 22:10.37 | Athas | Yes, it seems like a strange choice that your .profile is never executed when logging in via XDM. |
| 22:10.45 | rwp | Agreed. |
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| 22:11.43 | simonlnu | Athas: no it isn't. you have to do extra things if you want similar login support |
| 22:11.43 | Athas | I would rather not use bash for my .xsession. I would also not want to execute my .profile more than once. Is there a standard way of checking whether the current shell is the login shell? |
| 22:11.50 | Athas | Checking whether $0 begins with a dash? |
| 22:11.55 | rwp | It has been filed as a bug eons ago. But it never got addressed. It was closed in mass some years ago. I should file another or reopen the old one. It is still annoying. |
| 22:12.00 | indrora | lukas`: It claims its already installed. |
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| 22:12.17 | simonlnu | they all do it, fyi |
| 22:12.28 | rwp | Athas, bash is not required. Could be /bin/sh or any other shell you desire. I just showed you my choice. |
| 22:12.35 | lukas` | indrora: aptitude install --reinstall rsyslog |
| 22:13.12 | rwp | Athas, But yes $0 starting with a dash is a login shell and probably the canonical method to determine it. |
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| 22:13.33 | rwp | Note that 'su -' yields $0 to be "-su" for example. |
| 22:13.41 | zykotick9 | lukas`: are you sure rsyslog is even installed on the debian-live cd by default? |
| 22:14.04 | indrora | lukas`: E: could not find package `rsyslog` |
| 22:14.16 | simonlnu | the live syslog is probably a sysklogd (unless they changed it) |
| 22:14.27 | simonlnu | live cd* |
| 22:14.34 | rwp | Athas, But the .profile would only be loaded once for a login shell. Since at .xsession time it won't have been loaded previously. Or are you thinking of the problem of sharing the file with another system and the other system automatically loads up a login shell and it is on that other system you want to avoid it? |
| 22:14.41 | lukas` | indrora: let me just make sure - are you on live cd or usb instance or on installed system? |
| 22:14.48 | indrora | simonlnu: no, the lists report that rsyslogd is installed on the the livecds |
| 22:14.55 | indrora | lukas`: Installed system |
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| 22:14.59 | simonlnu | ok |
| 22:15.03 | lukas` | zykotick9: he has it ... see indrora's comment with II rsyslog |
| 22:15.07 | Athas | rwp: yes, my .xsession runs on multiple systems (and in principle, not all may have bash available). |
| 22:15.09 | lukas` | indrora: ok |
| 22:15.27 | lukas` | indrora: do you have the packaging system configured? Can you install some package? |
| 22:15.40 | indrora | I've installed trinity-desktop already |
| 22:15.48 | rwp | Athas, Yes. Live cross platform portability is a problem. Good luck. |
| 22:16.16 | lukas` | indrora: are you familiar with text GUI interface of aptitude? |
| 22:16.17 | indrora | I'm going to attempt to install from one of the CDs. |
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| 22:16.43 | indrora | lukas`: I usually use apt-get and dpkg directly. I've been using debian for years now. |
| 22:16.44 | rwp | Athas, I would probably try /bin/sh in that case and then in the script check for shells and platform and so forth and then 'exec' the right thing at that point. (shrug) |
| 22:16.58 | indrora | aptitude always seems to break things for me. |
| 22:17.24 | nsadmin | Athas, also that would not constitute running .profile twice; the .xsession process is a separate process |
| 22:17.24 | lukas` | indrora: ok ... so you are sure that apt is configured to use network repositories |
| 22:17.30 | Athas | rwp: yeah, I'll do that. As long as it works... |
| 22:17.36 | indrora | lukas`: yep, first thing I did. |
| 22:17.48 | indrora | lukas`: how else would I have been able to install trinity-desktop? |
| 22:17.49 | Athas | rwp: well, since I set things like PATH and start up various friendly daemons in my .profile, it still has a potential effect. |
| 22:17.50 | lukas` | indrora: ok ... ps aux |grep rsyslog |
| 22:18.02 | Athas | Fortunately, duplicate entries in PATH and multiple running ssh-agents don't really matter. |
| 22:18.05 | lukas` | indrora: sorry, just making sure |
| 22:18.09 | indrora | lukas`: isn't running. |
| 22:18.24 | indrora | rsyslog, dbus, none of them are running even though I've called their init script |
| 22:18.24 | lukas` | ls -l /etc/init.d |grep syslog |
| 22:18.35 | indrora | it exists. |
| 22:18.40 | rwp | True. The difference in some systems setting up ssh-agent and others not is a little annoying but mostly cosmetic only. |
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| 22:19.13 | lukas` | indrora: it sounds to me like that the installation didt not finish correctly |
| 22:19.31 | indrora | lukas`: Must have. But wouldn't calling their init scripts fix things? |
| 22:19.33 | nsadmin | probably starting processes is not the best thing to do in a .profile :) |
| 22:19.49 | rwp | goes afk for a while, see ya |
| 22:20.03 | hays | how hard would it be to get debian openssl/ssh to support ecdsa? im guessing this is hard |
| 22:20.16 | lukas` | indrora: consider rsyslog ... as for your packaging system, it is installed but the package does not exists, right? |
| 22:20.25 | cusco | hey folks |
| 22:20.31 | lukas` | nsadmin: what? |
| 22:20.33 | indrora | correct, lukas` |
| 22:20.46 | cusco | I'm having trouble with fail2ban: WARNING Unable to find a corresponding IP address for anonymous.invalid --> I can't find this on google 'anonymous.invalid' |
| 22:21.01 | cusco | is it getting the IP at a wrong place in the regexp ? |
| 22:21.08 | specing | hays: Heh, Im just compiling openssl to support the hardware cryptodev ;) |
| 22:21.11 | lukas` | indrora: that sounds like broken system ... so start aptitude without args, search by / for rsyslog and check its state |
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| 22:21.41 | lukas` | indrora: then install (+) or reinstall (L) it |
| 22:22.17 | lukas` | nsadmin: are you suggesting that indrora starts the services through rc.local? |
| 22:22.31 | rwp | Athas, One last thing, here is the old bug on it: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=250765 Never really fixed. Just closed. |
| 22:23.02 | indrora | lukas`: It tries but claims it breaks things to reinstall. I'm really calling "Live broke something" here. |
| 22:23.03 | nsadmin | lukas`, oh, wasn't speaking to/about indrora |
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| 22:23.33 | lukas` | nsadmin: sorry then :) |
| 22:23.54 | lukas` | indrora: what is the exact message? |
| 22:24.16 | nsadmin | and, if indrora is trying to start a service in .profile, the caveat would be there can be a lot more than one login shell |
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| 22:25.04 | lukas` | nsadmin: not only that ... consider possible race conditions or not starting boot services at boot time :) ... or not properly ending it |
| 22:25.06 | Athas | rwp: KDM may be a slightly more complicated case, I suppose. |
| 22:25.06 | hays | specing: when i researched this a while back what it came down to was the version of openssl i believe. the one with ecdsa is kind of new-ish |
| 22:25.26 | Athas | rwp: I'm not that knowledgeable about all the facets of this problem, but I know that Slackware XDM has no problem running .xsession as a login shell. |
| 22:25.29 | Dan39 | rwp: i think the problem was they just gave us 2 HDDs, they werent setup for use yet, but in past one of them was setup for raid, and mdadm automaticaly detected it and tried using it |
| 22:25.52 | Dan39 | i zero'ed superblock on sdd1 and all seems good now |
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| 22:27.04 | help__ | hello all does anyone have working 3400 series intel on debian squeeze |
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| 22:27.34 | help__ | and if yes please please please help me because i will throw out his **** laptop from the balcony |
| 22:27.48 | lukas` | indrora: could you also just write down the steps you did ... you had uninstalled system, you booted it with live usb, you started debootstrap ..? |
| 22:28.24 | specing | has working 4965 wifi :) |
| 22:28.24 | help__ | :( |
| 22:28.41 | specing | help__: you probably need firmware |
| 22:28.48 | nsadmin | help__, whether you get help should be independent of what you do to the poor balcony :) |
| 22:29.25 | abrotman | specing: for an audio card? |
| 22:29.32 | specing | Throwing it out will only mean that more stuff will stop functioning :) |
| 22:29.36 | help__ | nsadmin, just start to get angry im compiling and installing and reconfiguring packets from 2 hours |
| 22:29.41 | specing | abrotman: I thought he meant wifi |
| 22:29.46 | help__ | specing, firmware you say ? |
| 22:29.55 | specing | Dunno then |
| 22:30.02 | indrora | lukas`: I started debootstrap from the boot menu in auto mode. |
| 22:30.21 | abrotman | help__: did you look at the nvidia driver in backports also ? |
| 22:30.38 | lukas` | indrora: that is quite new to me, I have never used that ... ok, what did you do next? |
| 22:30.57 | specing | help__: It may be dead |
| 22:30.57 | help__ | abrotman, yep i was on backports before but i remove it because the 32bits extensions does not work |
| 22:31.07 | specing | I have a computer with dead audio |
| 22:31.09 | indrora | lukas`: Everything after that was standard debian installer. I had to manually add the repositories, but thats it. |
| 22:31.11 | specing | like totaly dead |
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| 22:31.38 | help__ | that's why i decide to move to stable ... oviously they work but the sound ... |
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| 22:32.06 | nsadmin | help__, what is a "3400 series intel"? |
| 22:32.10 | lukas` | indrora: and no error messages or so? Did gub install and configure automatically? |
| 22:32.24 | lukas` | s/gub/grub/ |
| 22:32.29 | help__ | nsadmin, |
| 22:32.31 | help__ | 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06) |
| 22:32.31 | help__ | 02:00.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation Device 0bea (rev a1) |
| 22:32.48 | specing | sounds OLD |
| 22:32.48 | abrotman | help__: 32bit extensions of what? |
| 22:32.55 | help__ | opengl |
| 22:33.13 | abrotman | help__: so why not just install a 32bit OS? |
| 22:33.16 | help__ | the sound works with bpo kernel but there are no 32bit opengl extensions |
| 22:33.32 | specing | Erm wut |
| 22:33.44 | indrora | lukas`: yep. I'm running on the sysem now |
| 22:33.46 | simonlnu | intel-hda .. |
| 22:34.21 | lukas` | indrora: ok ... if you check dmesg |less ... does it say something suspicious fromthe boot time? |
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| 22:35.12 | help__ | abrotman, .... :D i dont know why but ... if i have to reinstall the whole thing it will take me a week to rebuild the whole stup |
| 22:35.21 | indrora | lukas`: Nope. Everything looks normal. |
| 22:35.24 | abrotman | help__: okay, then live with no sound |
| 22:35.44 | help__ | awesome |
| 22:35.51 | alusion | Is there a simple way to make a sudo account on debian? I already have the program downloaded. |
| 22:35.52 | light_ | can someone please link me to a list of ciphers that are supported in the linux kernel crypto API? I can't seem to find it anywhere. |
| 22:35.54 | abrotman | help__: you hyave a number of issues .. but it seems like they could be solved if you went to 32bit |
| 22:36.08 | abrotman | alusion: man sudoers |
| 22:36.35 | alusion | abrotman, it's so much man! ;_; |
| 22:36.48 | abrotman | alusion: so start reading, you'll be done sooner |
| 22:37.13 | indrora | I'm going to install from normal media |
| 22:37.16 | help__ | abrotman, yes but ... is that a proper solution |
| 22:37.24 | lukas` | indrora: okay ... I propose to remove all the CD repositories, keep just the net repositories for squeeze (main,contrib,non-free), run apt-get update and then reinstall all the installed (or at least all the important) packages ... but before that,please paste the error message that aptitude said after you tried to reinstall rsyslog |
| 22:37.24 | alusion | abrotman, it's almost 2,000 lines. |
| 22:37.26 | help__ | there must be a way to make it work on 64bit |
| 22:37.53 | abrotman | help__: there is, but then your video is busted .. though i'm not sure why you need 32bit extensions for opengl |
| 22:37.57 | abrotman | alusion: start reading |
| 22:38.06 | abrotman | alusion: whining gets you what? |
| 22:38.25 | lukas` | indrora: that is another way to go, but I would be surprised if package management system would be in so bad condition just because of installation method |
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| 22:39.17 | help__ | abrotman, i need the 32bit's extension because i must connect web system that i work on to some crazy windows opengl thing that i run with wine |
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| 22:39.53 | help__ | and btw ... it looks like that i NEED the 64bit OS because of some crypto lib that is linked to that project |
| 22:39.58 | help__ | im so **** UP |
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| 22:40.08 | LtL | alusion: execute 'visudo' as root from the command line, edit in a line under, 'root ALL=(ALL)' but with your username. hit escape, type :wq hit enter, done |
| 22:40.10 | abrotman | help__: could upgrading to wheezy maybe help ? |
| 22:40.16 | abrotman | LtL: fishing? |
| 22:40.25 | help__ | hmm |
| 22:40.28 | help__ | i dont know :S |
| 22:40.35 | LtL | abrotman: i dunno, the devil got in me |
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| 22:40.52 | help__ | but sounds more like ... crash everything :( |
| 22:41.43 | nsadmin | help__, why can't you have opengl on backport kernel? |
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| 22:41.56 | abrotman | he says the 32 bit extensions don't work |
| 22:42.05 | help__ | because the nvidia installer says that cannot build the module |
| 22:42.18 | help__ | oh yes opengl work's fine 32bit exxtensions dont |
| 22:42.27 | abrotman | and you tried the nvidiia driver in backports.debian.org ? |
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| 22:42.50 | help__ | yep |
| 22:42.53 | help__ | several times |
| 22:43.01 | help__ | ahh wait |
| 22:43.04 | help__ | the sound driver |
| 22:43.08 | help__ | or the video driver ? |
| 22:43.25 | nsadmin | which one do you not have with the backport kernel? |
| 22:43.51 | help__ | with backport i don't have 32bit's opengl extensions |
| 22:44.57 | nsadmin | and the non-backport kernel? |
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| 22:45.19 | abrotman | no sound |
| 22:45.24 | help__ | in the non-backport kenrel i can't get any sound to work |
| 22:45.31 | abrotman | and he can't use a 32bit OS because he requires some 64bit extensions |
| 22:45.35 | abrotman | and he hasn't tried wheezy yet |
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| 22:45.44 | nsadmin | ok |
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| 22:47.41 | nsadmin | in wheezy the multiarch support is more complete and usable... you might try (back up first) upgrading to wheezy |
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| 22:48.22 | help__ | i see |
| 22:48.40 | help__ | may i assume that making snd-hda-intel work on squeeze is ... totaly impossible ? |
| 22:48.54 | nsadmin | multiarch might support these 32-bit extensions |
| 22:49.24 | nsadmin | help__, sec |
| 22:49.59 | abrotman | help__: you have the kernel, you see how it works |
| 22:50.11 | abrotman | help__: there may be some module options to get some functionality |
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| 22:52.08 | help__ | i saw that the module supports few (http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio-Models.txt) hw specific options maybe if i define mine ... |
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| 22:55.03 | help__ | abrotman, ... when talking about wheezy ? you talk about full update ? |
| 22:55.03 | abrotman | yes |