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| 00:00.47 | chovy | nsadmin: it's been a few years |
| 00:01.08 | chovy | i just had a power outage and when i rebooted my computer after it came back on, it just says GRUB |
| 00:01.32 | dvs | chovy: so you just want to reinstall GRUB |
| 00:02.00 | chovy | i guess |
| 00:03.04 | mh_le | I just installed debian 6, but when I boot, I get an error saying that there is a misaligned pointer :/ |
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| 00:03.54 | chovy | dvs: how can i use netinst to re-isntall grub? |
| 00:04.25 | dvs | chovy: use rescue mode and then chroot to the system on disk |
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| 00:04.47 | chovy | when i boot into the cd, it will give me rescue mode option? |
| 00:04.56 | linux-fox | hi,all |
| 00:05.16 | dvs | yes |
| 00:05.24 | mh_le | sotty that's an unaligned pointer |
| 00:05.39 | mh_le | sorry |
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| 00:09.01 | user__ | hi, my wireless is hardware blocked and i might ublock it with a direct call of rfkill_set_hw_state() according to http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/rfkill.txt line 46 and following. how can i directly access this function? |
| 00:09.03 | bolt | mh_le: paste the error message. the first one. |
| 00:09.38 | herrkey | user__ apt-get install rfkill |
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| 00:09.52 | user__ | herrkey, allready done |
| 00:10.00 | herrkey | =) |
| 00:10.14 | herrkey | There's a bunch useful info about wireless stuff at wireless.kernel.org |
| 00:10.19 | user__ | herrkey, the problem is that my wifi is hardware blocked and i can not unblock it |
| 00:10.30 | herrkey | Hm. |
| 00:10.37 | user__ | i tired, as many forums suggested, playing with moduls |
| 00:10.44 | user__ | rfkill command in all variations |
| 00:10.49 | user__ | booting |
| 00:10.55 | user__ | checkking bios settings |
| 00:11.10 | user__ | so i thought maybe i can use the function directly |
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| 00:11.30 | herrkey | Well... |
| 00:11.44 | herrkey | isn't there some sort of switch in the hardware to release the hard lock? |
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| 00:12.01 | user__ | herrkey, yes, BUT |
| 00:12.15 | chovy | my dvd won't boot |
| 00:12.19 | chovy | it just skips |
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| 00:12.40 | user__ | herrkey, i have button fir this. its an extra button on my keyboard, but all it does is to cause unkonw key messages in dmesg |
| 00:12.44 | herrkey | chovy are you sure the pc is trying to boot from it? |
| 00:13.08 | nsadmin | chovy, you wrote the netinst onto a dvd? |
| 00:13.20 | herrkey | I see, user__. ACPI support is problematic everywhere. |
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| 00:13.30 | chovy | yes, i used my mac, but i don't know if its bootable or not |
| 00:13.37 | user__ | herrkey, :( |
| 00:13.40 | herrkey | user__ have you fiddle with the BIOS settings? |
| 00:13.42 | chovy | i just right-clicked and chose "Burn to cd" |
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| 00:13.55 | herrkey | perhaps there's a way to disable it in the BIOS, then re-enable it or something... |
| 00:13.57 | Bj0rn | jailbreak for 3GS ios 6.0.1 needed |
| 00:14.09 | herrkey | wrong channel, Bj0rn |
| 00:14.13 | user__ | herrkey, yes... i only have the options to set wifi to disabled or "last state" it's ironic |
| 00:14.45 | herrkey | It's not ironic, it's sad... lol. |
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| 00:15.23 | herrkey | does rfkill tell you it's hard blocked? |
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| 00:15.30 | user__ | herrkey, yes |
| 00:15.57 | user__ | i can see the wireless card with lshw, lspci and even iwconfig |
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| 00:16.04 | user__ | ifconfig does not show it |
| 00:16.21 | herrkey | Oh, for sure it won't. |
| 00:16.38 | user__ | *-network:1 DISABLED |
| 00:16.38 | user__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:16.51 | user__ | says lshw -c network |
| 00:18.05 | user__ | herrkey, last last LAST resort would be to reinstall win xp, enable wifi, resintall linux along to xp and see if it works then |
| 00:18.17 | user__ | i have to go now |
| 00:18.20 | herrkey | No... |
| 00:18.22 | user__ | thank you heroxbd |
| 00:18.31 | user__ | thank you herrkey |
| 00:18.35 | chovy | anyone know how to create a bootable dvd on mac? |
| 00:18.45 | chovy | mac guys are telling me its not possible. i don't believe them. |
| 00:18.48 | user__ | herrkey, what would you recommend as next steps? |
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| 00:18.56 | herrkey | http://goo.gl/B3ujF |
| 00:18.59 | herrkey | some people solved it here |
| 00:19.12 | herrkey | And I'm sorry for throwing ubuntu forums at you. Lol. |
| 00:20.06 | herrkey | Perhaps turning the thing off and removing the battery for a while. |
| 00:20.20 | herrkey | (I'm serious, by the way.) |
| 00:20.21 | peterrooney | chovy: your suspicion is warranted. I've done it, but not for a few years. |
| 00:20.50 | user__ | herrkey, i am serious too |
| 00:20.52 | peterrooney | chovy: tell your mac guys they lack knowledge and imagination. |
| 00:20.59 | user__ | herrkey, and i dont mind where answers come from |
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| 00:21.20 | user__ | herrkey, thank you - if i have success i try to report back |
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| 00:22.20 | Toast | My raid array keeps forgetting one my my drives every time I reboot. Where does it keep it's list of drives to combine? I can't find it in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf |
| 00:23.21 | chovy | they are saying the .iso is supposed to be bootable, not the dvd |
| 00:23.31 | chovy | you just burn the iso and if its a bootable iso it should work. |
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| 00:23.42 | nsadmin | that's true |
| 00:23.54 | chovy | ok, so the netinstall iso is bootable right? |
| 00:24.01 | nsadmin | yes it is |
| 00:24.19 | nsadmin | in fact you should be able to write it to a usb drive |
| 00:24.31 | nsadmin | (which will erase the whole thing) |
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| 00:24.50 | chovy | i've never booted from usb |
| 00:24.57 | chovy | i don't think my bios has that option. |
| 00:25.11 | nsadmin | oh, ok... you could check again to make sure |
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| 00:27.47 | tur | New to GTK+ 3 , trying to compile some examples and it looks that I am missing dependancies. Any clue? Here is the pastebin -> http://pastebin.ca/2250470 |
| 00:27.50 | nsadmin | just to know whether that's an option or not |
| 00:28.32 | nsadmin | tur, the documentation the examples come with should tell you what libs it needs |
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| 00:30.30 | chovy | i went into rescue mode |
| 00:30.51 | chovy | now it is asking me which device to use as root filesystem /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda1 |
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| 00:30.58 | chovy | or /dev/sda2 |
| 00:31.04 | chovy | is this going to overwrite my data? |
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| 00:31.18 | nsadmin | not unless you do somthing to do that |
| 00:31.33 | chovy | i guess /dev/sda1 then? I don't know which one has all my data. |
| 00:31.38 | sacredchao | I reinstalled Debian onto my thinkpad but the Fn screen brightness keys do not work anmore |
| 00:32.15 | chovy | now it is asking me Reinstall GRUB boot loader? Should I do that option? |
| 00:32.23 | chovy | or just execute a shell. |
| 00:32.30 | chovy | i want to see what's on /dev/sda1 first |
| 00:32.37 | nsadmin | execute a shell |
| 00:32.51 | nsadmin | when you get there, run mount |
| 00:33.03 | nsadmin | look for the line that says /dev/sda1 |
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| 00:33.16 | nsadmin | what is the mount point |
| 00:33.49 | chovy | ok, this is odd, it looks like all my data is on /dev/sda1 |
| 00:34.05 | chovy | i thought my share drive was on the other disk, but it is giving me file lists of all my photos |
| 00:34.26 | chovy | so i definitely don't want to overwrite this one |
| 00:34.55 | chovy | what should i do now? |
| 00:35.22 | chovy | type mount? |
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| 00:35.28 | nsadmin | answer the question :) |
| 00:35.41 | nsadmin | yes, type mount |
| 00:35.43 | chovy | it says /dev/sda1 on / |
| 00:35.54 | chovy | and some other system stuff |
| 00:36.03 | nsadmin | oh, so it rescued |
| 00:36.12 | chovy | i guess i should check dev/sda2 and see what is on that |
| 00:36.24 | nsadmin | try: ping yahoo.com |
| 00:36.27 | chovy | yeah |
| 00:36.30 | chovy | i can ping yahoo |
| 00:36.48 | nsadmin | ok, it seems like your system is runnign |
| 00:36.59 | chovy | what should i do now? |
| 00:37.08 | linux-fox | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:37.25 | tur | For the gtk program, it was my fault, i manually installed a later version of gtk for some reason from source code and when i used make unistall everything worked perfectly, thanks for you help |
| 00:37.26 | linux-fox | -0p0zSD[1.]pwa`o9.l[-lq;'`./20[]`pw12\-B=-0ep4=D;/]/[s;/////[[[[CCCCCe9~E~~~D |
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| 00:38.34 | chovy | nsadmin: am i done? can i just exit out of here, or do I need to do something to fix it? |
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| 00:38.55 | nsadmin | probably you're not done; |
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| 00:39.37 | chovy | it said an error occurred when i selected /dev/sda2 |
| 00:39.41 | nsadmin | while you can get into your system by rescuing it (and good on ya for finding out how), you want to do something about doing a normal boot. |
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| 00:40.26 | nsadmin | lo. |
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| 00:41.55 | chovy | nsadmin, i just tried exiting, and it still says GRUB -- so I guess I need to reinstall grub to /dev/sda1 ? |
| 00:42.28 | Devastator | or /dev/sda |
| 00:42.28 | nsadmin | other operating systems on sda? |
| 00:42.35 | chovy | i don't think so |
| 00:42.54 | Devastator | 'think'.. that's great.. |
| 00:42.57 | nsadmin | could you explain that :) is this your box? |
| 00:43.00 | chovy | i thought it was just another 1tb drive for data, but all my data is on /dev/sda1 it seems |
| 00:43.08 | chovy | yes |
| 00:43.16 | chovy | i set this box up several years ago |
| 00:43.22 | nsadmin | ok, is it a 1tb drive |
| 00:43.22 | Shoya | so... |
| 00:43.41 | Shoya | i guess i'll just go on debian |
| 00:44.02 | Shoya | as in i'll dual boot on debian |
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| 00:44.47 | nsadmin | chovy, do you think for example there's a windows install on sda? |
| 00:45.13 | chovy | no, i doubt it. I think i went 100% debian on this. |
| 00:45.20 | chovy | but i suppose it is possible. |
| 00:45.39 | chovy | dev/sda1 is 1.8T |
| 00:45.40 | nsadmin | do you care about windows? or about a possible windows on sda? |
| 00:45.44 | chovy | no |
| 00:45.57 | chovy | i never prompts me to dual boot, so i'm 100% sure it is not. |
| 00:46.04 | nsadmin | then I'd suggest installing grub on /dev/sda |
| 00:46.18 | chovy | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:46.26 | nsadmin | no, sda |
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| 00:46.32 | chovy | i don't have /dev/sda |
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| 00:46.38 | chovy | i have /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 |
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| 00:46.47 | Devastator | facepalms |
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| 00:47.03 | chovy | installing grub, is that going to keep me from accessing /dev/sda1 ? |
| 00:47.15 | blackshirt | chovy, /dev/sda was mean for entire disk |
| 00:48.03 | chovy | the example says /dev/hda |
| 00:48.09 | chovy | do i not have hda? |
| 00:48.16 | nsadmin | ssec |
| 00:48.43 | chovy | i think i just need to put /dev/sda in the Device for boot loader installation: prompt. |
| 00:49.25 | chovy | what is /dev/hda it says to use that for MBR |
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| 00:50.25 | LtL | chovy: yes do it, mbr goes in /dev/sda |
| 00:50.53 | LtL | chovy: the bootloader is stored in the MBR of /dev/sda |
| 00:51.22 | chovy | ok |
| 00:51.30 | chovy | this isn't going to wipe out my data on /dev/sda1 is it? |
| 00:51.36 | LtL | chovy: mbr = master boot record |
| 00:51.48 | LtL | chovy: absolutely not |
| 00:51.50 | chovy | ok |
| 00:52.04 | chovy | photos of my twins, my wife would kill me. |
| 00:52.12 | LtL | chovy: sda1 and sda2 are partitions on sda |
| 00:52.31 | chovy | executing grbu-install /dev/sda failed it says |
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| 00:53.47 | herrkey | chovy care for your life and make a backup ASAP. |
| 00:53.48 | LtL | chovy: then i think you have drive failure, without tools its hard to tell. |
| 00:54.24 | chovy | can i run fskc on the drive or something? |
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| 00:54.38 | herrkey | You can, indeed. |
| 00:54.48 | herrkey | Not sure about "something" though. =) |
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| 00:55.48 | chovy | it says /dev/sda1 is mounted, if you continue you ***WILL*** cause sever filesystem damage |
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| 00:56.03 | herrkey | Don't! |
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| 00:56.39 | herrkey | You should unmount the filesystem first. |
| 00:56.51 | LtL | chovy: umount /dev/sda1 you cannot fsck a mounted filesystem. |
| 00:57.27 | DarKMode | you should be using live cd |
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| 00:57.50 | herrkey | Not *really* necessary... but could be a good idea. |
| 00:59.35 | chovy | how long will it take to transfer 90gb on a dsl line? |
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| 00:59.58 | ntwrk_keith | uh...... |
| 00:59.58 | DarKMode | or try usb stick boot in rescue mode and install grub |
| 00:59.59 | chovy | DarKMode: i'm using a netinst cd |
| 01:00.14 | LtL | chovy: to a internet location = forever roughly |
| 01:00.22 | chovy | damn |
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| 01:00.50 | chovy | how do i unmount /dev/sda1 ? |
| 01:00.53 | herrkey | I don't think I caught the beginning of your problem, chovy ... you've been at this for hours, heh. |
| 01:00.56 | chovy | I went into shell on installer env. |
| 01:01.05 | herrkey | You can't boot your system, is that it? |
| 01:01.17 | chovy | herrkey: i had a power outage, and now it just says GRUB when i bootup |
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| 01:01.30 | herrkey | Hm. |
| 01:01.37 | herrkey | Maybe you've got some bad blocks. |
| 01:01.59 | chovy | typing unmount /dev/sda1 says umount is not found |
| 01:02.06 | herrkey | umount |
| 01:02.10 | herrkey | without the "n" |
| 01:02.10 | chovy | unmount |
| 01:02.16 | LtL | chovy: umount not unmount |
| 01:02.20 | DarKMode | it not unmount it umount |
| 01:02.31 | chovy | ok, now it says device or resource is busty |
| 01:02.34 | chovy | lol |
| 01:02.35 | chovy | busy |
| 01:02.47 | herrkey | you're probably in it |
| 01:02.57 | LtL | must be yes |
| 01:03.05 | chovy | i went into resuce mode, and then choose shell in installer env. |
| 01:03.17 | herrkey | What I would do is this... |
| 01:03.24 | herrkey | boot with a live cd, not netinst |
| 01:03.24 | n2diy | putting the finishing touches on my transition from Xubuntu to Debian. I can ftp between my work box and test box using filezilla, but I can't connect them using grsync, connection refused? |
| 01:03.31 | herrkey | check all disks with fcsk |
| 01:03.38 | somiaj | you cannot umount your root filesystem. So when you went into rescue mode you mounted it as your root file system. You don't want to rescue you want a live shell |
| 01:03.39 | herrkey | if it's all fine, chroot into the system and do update-grub |
| 01:03.42 | herrkey | oops |
| 01:03.50 | herrkey | grub-install |
| 01:04.07 | LtL | chovy: you really need a livecd, download it to the computer youre on and burn it. its possibly your only chance of saving that thing |
| 01:04.24 | herrkey | use debian live, live.debian.net |
| 01:04.30 | LtL | somiaj: good point/reminder |
| 01:04.59 | chovy | LtL: i want to install grub on MBR /dev/sda |
| 01:05.06 | chovy | when i tried that through the menu it failed. |
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| 01:05.25 | herrkey | n2diy port's probably blocke |
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| 01:05.29 | herrkey | blocked* |
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| 01:05.46 | LtL | chovy: yes, i read that. |
| 01:05.57 | herrkey | chovy, you should *really* check the disks, and perhaps even check for bad blocks first |
| 01:06.13 | chovy | herrkey: how do i do that? |
| 01:06.21 | herrkey | Think about it... even if you fix grub and get to boot, the filesystem might still be corrupt. |
| 01:06.25 | chovy | i can't run fsck until i umount the drive |
| 01:06.35 | herrkey | Use a live cd, like you've been told. |
| 01:06.39 | chovy | ok |
| 01:07.07 | chovy | http://live.debian.net/cdimage/release/current/amd64/ |
| 01:07.15 | chovy | which one do i use here? |
| 01:07.51 | DarKMode | chovy past the result of mount command use paste.ubuntu.com |
| 01:08.06 | chovy | i don't see any iso here |
| 01:08.07 | herrkey | if you have a USB thingy, use usb-hdd |
| 01:08.09 | chovy | i need iso to burn on mac |
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| 01:08.20 | chovy | i don't have usb, my bios doesn't show it as a boot option |
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| 01:08.37 | herrkey | are you sure? how old is that? |
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| 01:08.42 | chovy | at least 5 years |
| 01:09.04 | herrkey | Still... oh, well. Use the iso-hybrid. |
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| 01:09.16 | somiaj | chovy: you could use your installer that has a 'rescue' mode -- just start out with install debian. Once the installer starts asking you questions, hit alt-f2 for a limited shell. You should have fsck in that shell and can run it |
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| 01:09.35 | LtL | chovy: it usually isnt in boot priority but in a different mebu, just as USB options |
| 01:09.42 | DarKMode | here a one http://live.debian.net/cdimage/release/current/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-6.0.5-amd64-gnome-desktop.iso |
| 01:09.42 | somiaj | so yea don't use rescue, just act like you want to reinstall debian, but don't actually do anything, just open up the limited shell |
| 01:09.42 | LtL | *menu |
| 01:09.59 | somiaj | (as in you don't need to download a new live image) |
| 01:10.00 | chovy | in bios it says 'ft tx ary1' |
| 01:10.05 | chovy | i don't know what that is |
| 01:10.17 | herrkey | The best way to be sure is trying to boot it through USB. |
| 01:10.31 | chovy | somiaj: i can't run fsck on the drive that way |
| 01:10.42 | chovy | because i have to unmount it first |
| 01:10.45 | chovy | catch 22 |
| 01:11.03 | somiaj | chovy: you aren't listening. I said do not use rescue mode. I said the installer ahs a limited shell you can do things with |
| 01:11.13 | somiaj | i.e. you don't actually mount the filesystem |
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| 01:12.17 | chovy | ok, i'll try that |
| 01:12.34 | dbeest | I was told once that at a point when the releases change 'testing' gets flooded with new packages and will get a lot buggier for a while as a result, does this happen with sid or is it just constantly 'bleeding edge' and therefore constantly as risky? |
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| 01:13.19 | herrkey | Sorry to repeat myself, but I think a live CD is a bit more friendly... that "limited shell" somiaj talks about is *really* limited. |
| 01:13.28 | chovy | somiaj: i'm at the installer boot menu. just do regular install here? |
| 01:13.36 | chovy | you said to hit f-2 somewhere |
| 01:13.51 | chovy | when do i do that? |
| 01:14.01 | herrkey | that would be alt+f2 |
| 01:14.07 | herrkey | to get to the shell he mentioned |
| 01:14.20 | somiaj | chovy: hit alt-f2 |
| 01:14.34 | chovy | i think i'm in there shelel |
| 01:14.40 | chovy | it says Busy Box |
| 01:14.44 | herrkey | good. |
| 01:14.47 | somiaj | herrkey: you are correct, I was just saying if all he needs to do is run fsck it may add to much complication to have him get another tool |
| 01:14.58 | chovy | just run fsck here? |
| 01:15.06 | herrkey | that's fine, somiaj :). |
| 01:15.06 | somiaj | cause yes it is really limited. But it can do a fsck and then allow him to chroot and fix grub |
| 01:15.06 | chovy | do i need to umount first? |
| 01:15.21 | somiaj | chovy: you don't have anything mounted |
| 01:15.27 | chovy | it says fsck not found |
| 01:15.43 | n2diy | herrkey: nope, didn't have ssh installed. |
| 01:15.57 | herrkey | n2diy huh? |
| 01:16.03 | herrkey | You mean sshd wasn't running? |
| 01:16.18 | n2diy | herrkey: connection refused by grsync. |
| 01:16.25 | somiaj | damn was afraid of that. yea it may be easiest to get a live-image chovy -- it has been so long since I have actually used that shell. You may have to do a few thigns with the installer to get it loaded. |
| 01:16.46 | herrkey | n2diy ? |
| 01:16.51 | chovy | debian-live-6.0.5-amd64-standard.iso |
| 01:16.52 | herrkey | You're so cryptic. |
| 01:16.53 | somiaj | I am just surprised fsck wasn't there. :( |
| 01:16.53 | chovy | that one? |
| 01:17.04 | somiaj | chovy: if you don't want a gui, yes |
| 01:17.08 | chovy | i don't know if i entered the shell correctly. |
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| 01:17.31 | somiaj | chovy: no that shell is really really limited and only loads a minimial number of tools to do an install (I just thought one of those tools would be fsck) |
| 01:17.43 | n2diy | herrkey: I asked why my grsync connection was being refused, you told me blocked ports, but it was because ssh wasn't installed. |
| 01:17.45 | somiaj | and was hoping it would save the complication of needing to download/burn an iso |
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| 01:18.49 | herrkey | Yes, n2diy, you need an ssh client to do stuff through ssh. |
| 01:18.51 | herrkey | =D |
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| 01:20.23 | somiaj | and to use rsync you need either a shell login with rsync installed or the rsync daemon |
| 01:20.34 | somiaj | so alternativally if you don't want to use ssh install the rsync daemon |
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| 01:21.57 | herrkey | I don't even know what the hell if grsync. |
| 01:22.02 | herrkey | is* |
| 01:22.11 | somiaj | herrkey: my guess is a gnome frontend |
| 01:22.18 | herrkey | Mine too. |
| 01:22.22 | somiaj | grsync - GTK+ frontend for rsync |
| 01:24.24 | herrkey | Maybe I'm wrong, but burning an ISO on Mac shouldn't be a problem... |
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| 01:34.01 | zophy | is there a port of the windows powershell to linux ? |
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| 01:38.39 | chovy | somiaj: ok, i've got live cd |
| 01:38.47 | chovy | do i do Text Rescue? |
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| 01:39.50 | chovy | anyone know how to get fsck off live-cd? |
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| 01:40.20 | DarKMode | try text rescue |
| 01:40.41 | DarKMode | it will give you shell prompt with sh |
| 01:40.50 | DarKMode | then use fsck |
| 01:41.11 | chovy | ok |
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| 01:42.04 | chovy | DarKMode: it says "Device to use as root file system" |
| 01:42.09 | chovy | i want to run fsck on it |
| 01:42.33 | chovy | i went into install env shell and it says fsck is not found |
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| 01:44.49 | peterrooney | chovy: semi-random but possibly helpful thought: you may need to advance in the installer to just after "Detect disks" before dropping into shell |
| 01:45.12 | simonlnu | bingo |
| 01:45.34 | herrkey | DarKMode ... |
| 01:45.49 | herrkey | people... he's tried that |
| 01:45.54 | herrkey | we're trying something different now |
| 01:46.00 | somiaj | chovy: just boot into the live image, it should be the top option |
| 01:46.02 | herrkey | he doesn't want recue |
| 01:46.11 | herrkey | he want's to boot into the live system and get a shell |
| 01:46.20 | DarKMode | oh ok |
| 01:46.37 | herrkey | gee, my typos are getting worse by the second =P |
| 01:47.30 | chovy | it says fsck command not found |
| 01:48.01 | phogg | chovy: are you root? |
| 01:48.03 | LtL | chovy: try /sbin/fsck |
| 01:48.54 | chovy | oh man, i don't think i was root before |
| 01:49.01 | chovy | ok, i just ran fsck and it says its clean |
| 01:49.10 | chovy | is there any kind of partition repair i can run or something? |
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| 01:51.15 | LtL | chovy: /usr/sbin/grub-install /dev/sda |
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| 01:52.53 | herrkey | It might be easier to bind /dev and /proc and chroot into the thing |
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| 01:53.33 | herrkey | otherwise you'll need to use grub-setup, not grub-install |
| 01:53.56 | LtL | yeah thats probably right, i better back off here |
| 01:54.18 | herrkey | chovy you have to mount the root filesystem now |
| 01:54.32 | herrkey | if it's /dev/sda1, do "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" |
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| 01:55.23 | chovy | LtL: ok, go into Live Install and when I get that shell run grub-install /dev/sda ? |
| 01:55.35 | LtL | i think he'sd already root |
| 01:55.45 | LtL | chovy: no, its not that simple |
| 01:55.47 | herrkey | then you do "sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc" and "sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/proc" |
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| 01:56.38 | herrkey | finally, you do "sudo chroot /mnt", and just run "grub-install" |
| 01:56.42 | chovy | i want to do rescue mode i think |
| 01:56.48 | herrkey | No, you don't. |
| 01:56.53 | herrkey | Forget rescue. |
| 01:56.56 | chovy | ok |
| 01:56.58 | herrkey | You've got a whole freaking system now. |
| 01:57.01 | chovy | so i'm in live install shell now |
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| 01:57.07 | herrkey | Yes, great. |
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| 01:57.32 | herrkey | have you mounted your root partition yet? |
| 01:57.47 | chovy | ok, two people are telling me what to do. |
| 01:57.54 | chovy | do i run mount /dev/sda1 / |
| 01:57.56 | chovy | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:58.00 | herrkey | yes |
| 01:58.03 | herrkey | no |
| 01:58.03 | herrkey | wait |
| 01:58.07 | herrkey | mount /dev/sda1 /mnt |
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| 01:58.16 | chovy | ok |
| 01:58.45 | chovy | now what |
| 01:59.10 | herrkey | now you're gonna mount more stuff |
| 01:59.17 | herrkey | do "mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev" |
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| 02:00.38 | chovy | so now just run grub-install w/o any options? |
| 02:00.46 | herrkey | no |
| 02:00.47 | chovy | i did that |
| 02:00.53 | herrkey | ok, there's more |
| 02:00.56 | chovy | i mounted /proc and all that |
| 02:00.58 | herrkey | "mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc" |
| 02:01.01 | chovy | yup |
| 02:01.06 | herrkey | and mount /sys too |
| 02:01.11 | herrkey | "mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys" |
| 02:01.22 | herrkey | I don't remember if you really have to, but it's a good idea. |
| 02:01.35 | chovy | why did i type mount --bind /dev/ /mnt/proc |
| 02:01.39 | chovy | is that correct? |
| 02:01.44 | herrkey | of course not |
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| 02:01.59 | herrkey | if you did that, do "umount /mnt/proc" |
| 02:02.10 | chovy | that's what you told me to do |
| 02:02.18 | herrkey | No, it isn't. You must be tired. |
| 02:02.26 | chovy | read up |
| 02:02.29 | herrkey | I told you to do "mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev" |
| 02:02.47 | chovy | < herrkey> then you do "sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc" and "sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/proc" |
| 02:02.59 | herrkey | did i? |
| 02:03.09 | herrkey | my bad |
| 02:03.16 | herrkey | but why are you reading so far up? |
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| 02:03.48 | herrkey | If we're gonna do this step-by-step we need to be on the same page, here. |
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| 02:03.53 | chovy | ok, so i mounted /dev, /sys, and /proc |
| 02:04.00 | herrkey | awesome. |
| 02:04.02 | herrkey | now do |
| 02:04.04 | herrkey | chroot /mnt |
| 02:04.14 | chovy | ok |
| 02:04.19 | herrkey | you should be in a shell now |
| 02:04.26 | Mike9863 | I'm trying to install debian over a usb, but it's giving me an error at the detect and mount cd-rom step. I installed debian fine a few days ago and it wasn't asking me for this option. Can anyone help? |
| 02:04.40 | chovy | herrkey: ok, i'm in shell |
| 02:04.45 | herrkey | good. |
| 02:04.50 | herrkey | now type "grub-install" |
| 02:04.55 | rainfyre | Mike9863: try a different usb port, and consider burning it to a rewritable cd if you have one |
| 02:04.56 | chovy | do i need to be root? |
| 02:05.02 | herrkey | you are root already |
| 02:05.10 | herrkey | this is your real system, not the live one |
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| 02:05.20 | chovy | grub-install gives me a list of options |
| 02:05.35 | herrkey | sorry |
| 02:05.39 | herrkey | you need to specify the drive |
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| 02:05.47 | chovy | grub-install /dev/sda |
| 02:05.49 | chovy | ? |
| 02:06.00 | herrkey | yes, if you really want to install it to your master mbr |
| 02:06.04 | chovy | yes |
| 02:06.11 | herrkey | yes, should work then |
| 02:06.14 | chovy | or do i do it to /mnt |
| 02:06.18 | herrkey | no |
| 02:06.22 | herrkey | it has to be a device file |
| 02:06.39 | herrkey | your /mnt is empty now |
| 02:07.01 | herrkey | did you do "grub-install /dev/sda" ? |
| 02:07.06 | chovy | yes |
| 02:07.16 | herrkey | did it work? |
| 02:07.20 | chovy | now it's saying something about GPT partiaion label has no BIO BOOt partiion, |
| 02:07.33 | chovy | embedding is not possible and blocklists is my only option, but is discouraged |
| 02:07.51 | chovy | says if i really want blocklists, use --force |
| 02:07.54 | chovy | what is that? |
| 02:07.59 | herrkey | wait then... don't force anything |
| 02:08.52 | herrkey | this really sucks |
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| 02:10.44 | Mike9863 | rainfyre: I've tried different ports, it always ends up the same. For some reason though it looks like my usb stick is showing up as a harddrive under boot devices instead of a removeable device, could this be why, and if so, how can I change that? |
| 02:11.01 | herrkey | I'm not sure you can change the flag to make it a boot partition |
| 02:11.07 | herrkey | I don't use GPT yet |
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| 02:11.16 | Mike9863 | heroxbd: I've set the boot flag for it in gparted |
| 02:11.19 | Mike9863 | herrkey* |
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| 02:11.55 | herrkey | he doesn't have a UI, though |
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| 02:11.56 | herrkey | GUI |
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| 02:12.09 | herrkey | perhaps gdisk does it |
| 02:13.09 | chovy | so i'm screwed? |
| 02:13.24 | herrkey | not necessarily |
| 02:14.10 | herrkey | can you install gdisk? |
| 02:14.40 | herrkey | actually, nevermind |
| 02:14.50 | joeDeuce | is /etc/fstab updated in the chroot? |
| 02:14.56 | herrkey | you should have a boot partition already... |
| 02:15.01 | chovy | unstalbe to locate package gdisk |
| 02:15.44 | herrkey | excuse me, but what does fstab have to do with it? |
| 02:16.30 | joeDeuce | a lot if it's going to boot :) |
| 02:17.03 | herrkey | he's still trying to install grub |
| 02:17.09 | nsadmin | herrkey, do you know what it is? |
| 02:17.16 | joeDeuce | i came in late, so i may have missed some of the discussion |
| 02:17.25 | herrkey | of course I know what fstab is |
| 02:17.32 | herrkey | but he need to get grub working now |
| 02:17.35 | herrkey | needs* |
| 02:17.55 | nsadmin | wait, you're installing something from unstable? |
| 02:18.10 | herrkey | what? |
| 02:18.27 | chovy | i'm using live cd |
| 02:19.13 | nsadmin | oh ok, is it able to mount your /dev/sda1? |
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| 02:19.19 | herrkey | maybe exit the chroot, see if you have network in the live system, and try to install gdisk to take a look at the partition table on /dev/sda |
| 02:19.40 | chovy | yes, i can mount /dev/sda1 and see all my data |
| 02:19.51 | herrkey | dude, you are *inside* /dev/sda1 |
| 02:20.01 | chovy | yes |
| 02:20.24 | chovy | so what now? |
| 02:20.36 | herrkey | well, we needed to take a look at the partition table |
| 02:20.38 | nsadmin | try installing grub-pc |
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| 02:21.11 | nsadmin | did you already fsck, what, /dev/sda1? |
| 02:21.47 | chovy | nsadmin: yes, it says its clean |
| 02:21.50 | chovy | took about 2 ms |
| 02:22.05 | herrkey | it didn't really run, just checked the flag then |
| 02:22.10 | nsadmin | ok, and are you having further messages that suggest otherwise? |
| 02:22.20 | chovy | how do i run fsck |
| 02:22.43 | nsadmin | you're in the live env right? |
| 02:22.47 | chovy | yes |
| 02:22.49 | herrkey | no |
| 02:22.55 | herrkey | he's in a chroot into his system |
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| 02:23.08 | nsadmin | ok, and the chroot was run from where? |
| 02:23.10 | chovy | yes, i chroot |
| 02:23.15 | chovy | live cd |
| 02:23.15 | herrkey | from the live cd |
| 02:23.19 | nsadmin | ok |
| 02:23.27 | herrkey | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:23.35 | herrkey | are bound* |
| 02:23.57 | nsadmin | hmm, it seems like he could now install grub-pc |
| 02:24.06 | herrkey | but I think he has it already, no? |
| 02:24.16 | herrkey | the system was working before the power failure |
| 02:24.31 | chovy | last time i had a power failure, i just had to run fsck |
| 02:24.35 | chovy | i'd like to try that now |
| 02:24.36 | nsadmin | that's a good question... does he have legacy grub or grub2? |
| 02:24.48 | chovy | seems the easiest solution, but I don't know how to run it and force it to clean up. |
| 02:24.49 | herrkey | I'm assuming GRUB2, since his partition table is GPT |
| 02:25.12 | nsadmin | so it's not an mbr partition table |
| 02:25.20 | herrkey | no |
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| 02:25.31 | herrkey | and grub refuses to install saying he doesn't have a bios boot partition |
| 02:25.39 | nsadmin | check for the file /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 02:25.41 | nsadmin | exists? |
| 02:25.42 | herrkey | he probably does, though |
| 02:25.44 | chovy | maybe i put grub on /dev/sda1 |
| 02:25.48 | chovy | i mean /dev/sda2 |
| 02:25.57 | chovy | should i try that? |
| 02:26.02 | herrkey | no |
| 02:26.16 | nsadmin | check for the file /boot/grub/grub.cfg ... exists? |
| 02:26.21 | Devastator | if debian is your ONLY OS, it should be able to install in /dev/sda |
| 02:26.36 | chovy | yes |
| 02:27.16 | nsadmin | ok, so if grub.cfg does exist, you have grub2 |
| 02:27.27 | chovy | ok |
| 02:27.43 | nsadmin | (and he's right, probably legacy grub does not support gpt |
| 02:27.44 | nsadmin | ) |
| 02:28.03 | nsadmin | when you boot and see grub, what happens next? |
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| 02:28.32 | chovy | nothing |
| 02:28.35 | chovy | it just says GRUB |
| 02:29.31 | herrkey | why don't we try running fsck again from the live shell? |
| 02:29.43 | chovy | how do i force that to run |
| 02:29.49 | chovy | it seems to not run |
| 02:29.54 | herrkey | type "exit" to leave the chroot |
| 02:29.58 | nsadmin | that sounds good... |
| 02:30.05 | herrkey | umount /mnt/proc, /mnt/dev and /mnt/sys |
| 02:30.08 | chovy | ok |
| 02:30.09 | herrkey | and umount /mnt |
| 02:30.27 | herrkey | then do "fsck -f /dev/sda1" |
| 02:30.32 | herrkey | you can do it for the other partitions too |
| 02:31.11 | chovy | ok, now its running |
| 02:31.21 | herrkey | good, forgot to tell you the verbose flags though |
| 02:31.40 | herrkey | nevermind... see if it find any error |
| 02:31.42 | nsadmin | "other partitions", sda2, and what else? |
| 02:31.49 | chovy | i think that is it |
| 02:32.02 | chovy | can i get a list? |
| 02:32.11 | herrkey | yes, sudo "fdisk -l" |
| 02:32.15 | simonlnu | fdisk -l |
| 02:32.17 | nsadmin | ok, after it runs type fdisk /dev/sda |
| 02:32.18 | Devastator | is there a time record for a guy to be helped? I mean.. chovy might be the new record |
| 02:32.21 | nsadmin | and then p |
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| 02:32.29 | chovy | heh |
| 02:32.40 | simonlnu | Devastator: no |
| 02:32.40 | chovy | i owe you guys a beer or 12 |
| 02:32.56 | simonlnu | i've seen stuff going on for days |
| 02:33.03 | herrkey | I'll take whiskey, thanks. |
| 02:33.08 | herrkey | whisky* |
| 02:33.15 | simonlnu | leave, come back next day, and continue |
| 02:33.19 | herrkey | beer is the reason I'm telling you to do wrong stuff. lol. |
| 02:33.35 | simonlnu | strong coffee ;p. j/k - i haven't partcipating much |
| 02:33.39 | Devastator | simonlnu good lord :P |
| 02:33.41 | nsadmin | ohh, so you want higher proof? |
| 02:33.42 | simonlnu | been* |
| 02:33.47 | herrkey | chovy, do sudo "fdisk -l" |
| 02:33.50 | chovy | i like JW myself |
| 02:33.53 | herrkey | is there only one drive there? |
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| 02:34.07 | chovy | i'ts been a few years. i thought i had two drives, each 2tb |
| 02:34.20 | chovy | but all my data is on the one drive it seems. |
| 02:34.23 | herrkey | holy ghost... but if you don't even know how many hdds you have... |
| 02:34.28 | herrkey | we're in troubled waters here |
| 02:34.33 | simonlnu | eh |
| 02:34.55 | chovy | when i tried rescume mode it wouldn't let me open a shell in /dev/sda2 |
| 02:34.59 | chovy | i don't know what that's about |
| 02:35.03 | nsadmin | chovy, you have one hell of a reading list about now... |
| 02:35.18 | Shoya | what where? |
| 02:35.19 | herrkey | but of course, there's probably no system on /dev/sda2 |
| 02:35.23 | Shoya | a reading list? |
| 02:35.27 | nsadmin | at least: |
| 02:35.28 | chovy | no, it's 100% debian install |
| 02:35.29 | herrkey | did you run fdisk -l, chovy ? |
| 02:35.30 | nsadmin | !grounding |
| 02:35.30 | dpkg | Before asking in here or on the <debian-user> mailing list, you should read the Installation Guide, or if you already have Debian installed, the Debian Reference. The Debian Administrator's Handbook is also good. Ask me about <ig>, <overview>, <reference>, <refcard>, <docs>, <manuals>, <fundamentals>, <newbiedoc>, <faq>, <unix lessons>, <general cli tutorial>, <debian-handbook> (e.g. in your IRC client, type /msg dpkg reference). |
| 02:35.42 | chovy | i'm still waiting for the fdisk -f /dev/sda1 to finish |
| 02:35.46 | simonlnu | if anything, as a refresher ;p |
| 02:35.47 | Shoya | oh right, the handbook |
| 02:35.51 | herrkey | you mean fsck |
| 02:35.55 | nsadmin | but ignore that for now |
| 02:35.56 | chovy | actually, i have to go eat dinner now. Damn. I hope you guys are here when i get back. |
| 02:35.57 | Shoya | i should read that |
| 02:36.11 | Shoya | you don't take that long to eat, do you chovy? |
| 02:36.15 | chovy | no |
| 02:36.24 | herrkey | I actually recommend running badblocks later, but that would take hours |
| 02:36.26 | chovy | but the wife usually wants me to stay |
| 02:36.33 | chovy | i'll be back in a bit |
| 02:36.48 | nsadmin | why don't you come back tomorrow instead |
| 02:36.55 | simonlnu | what's with the fsck -f ? to force it. oh yeh, you checked it earlier. doh. |
| 02:37.21 | herrkey | he didn't really check it though |
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| 02:37.31 | simonlnu | oh |
| 02:37.37 | herrkey | the clean flag was set, so fsck just pretends |
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| 02:37.59 | simonlnu | yeh, i grok that |
| 02:38.02 | herrkey | we're almost there, really |
| 02:38.15 | herrkey | it's all a matter of him telling us what's in his partition table |
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| 02:38.22 | LV-426 | Hey guys, is there any reason why the squeeze debian-installer would have a hard time creating an ext2 /boot lvm partition atop a raid5 for use with grub2? for some reason I'm hit by 'invalid argument' when the installer attempts to mount /boot... |
| 02:39.14 | somiaj | is /boot in the lvm or not? I don't think you want /boot in the LVM because that is where the info for the initrd (and thus lvm) lives |
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| 02:39.50 | nsadmin | it's probably on the / partition |
| 02:41.46 | LV-426 | somiaj, sorry, forgot to mention /boot is based on the logical lvm volume lv-boot - attempting this since grub2 should be able to handle it AFAIK |
| 02:42.48 | somiaj | yea I don't have much experience here, I just thought you wanted /boot to be a normal partition so you could get to the kernel and initrd image without needing knowledge of teh lvm |
| 02:43.20 | Shoya | question, resolution for display, how do i fix it? |
| 02:43.39 | nsadmin | it's not resolutionizing? |
| 02:43.43 | somiaj | Shoya: xrandr -q (that in a terminal should list all the resolutions that xorg detected) |
| 02:43.44 | Shoya | more like, is there a package for it? |
| 02:43.50 | Shoya | lemme check |
| 02:44.08 | somiaj | Shoya: if you don't see the resolution you think you can have it is probabaly a driver issue, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what drivers and display modes xorg detected |
| 02:44.29 | nsadmin | that would have to be run in an xterm on the x server you want to query or control |
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| 02:45.13 | Shoya | says no protocol specified? |
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| 02:45.18 | somiaj | s/xterm/any terminal/, but yea has to be in x |
| 02:45.34 | somiaj | sounds like you don't have xrandr support, goto the Xorg.0.log file and see what drivesr/resolution it is using |
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| 02:46.05 | nick[0] | As Wheezy gets closer to stable, and I'm getting more and more excited about finally getting back to the Debian I know and love (I've been using OpenSUSE for the last 1.5 years for better Sandybridge support and a newer KDE), but I'm considering Mepis for the first time ever. Please let me know if you think it offers anything beyond Debian (other than Firefox vs Iceweasel, etc.) for someone who's used Debian for a decade and can do his own back |
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| 02:46.16 | iToast | hey |
| 02:46.21 | iToast | i treid to set a static ip |
| 02:46.22 | iToast | it failed |
| 02:46.26 | somiaj | nick[0]: sandybridge works in squeeze + squeeze-backports btw |
| 02:46.29 | iToast | Now neither network card is seen, what do i do? |
| 02:46.35 | ikonia | fix it |
| 02:46.35 | somiaj | iToast: what did you try, give us more details |
| 02:46.45 | somiaj | iToast: are you using the /etc/network/interfaces file or using network-manager? |
| 02:46.46 | iToast | http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-debian-squeeze-ispconfig-2-p3 |
| 02:46.49 | ikonia | look at your config |
| 02:46.52 | iToast | I did. |
| 02:46.53 | ikonia | iToast: what did YOU do |
| 02:47.04 | ikonia | iToast: does the interface come up ? |
| 02:47.05 | iToast | ikonia, /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:47.07 | iToast | nope. |
| 02:47.09 | somiaj | iToast: do you have access to your router, you know you can control the dhcp on your router to assign static ip's too |
| 02:47.15 | ikonia | iToast: what's the error when you try to bring it up |
| 02:47.27 | Shoya | well |
| 02:47.28 | Shoya | then again |
| 02:47.31 | iToast | ikonia, It can't find the network card... |
| 02:47.33 | Shoya | it's on VBox |
| 02:47.43 | abrotman | iToast: dmesg | grep eth |
| 02:47.45 | nick[0] | somiaj: It does now, but it squeeze-backports didn't have the packages when I set up this systemf; I took the path of least resistance, for time savings, since I was super busy ;-) |
| 02:47.46 | Shoya | that affects alot, doesn't it? |
| 02:47.50 | nsadmin | could it find the net card before? |
| 02:47.51 | ikonia | iToast: how are you starting the networkcard |
| 02:47.59 | iToast | ikonia, tried ifup |
| 02:48.00 | ikonia | iToast: as the physical network card is nothing to do with the IP |
| 02:48.12 | iToast | ikonia, I know that |
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| 02:48.39 | rideh | whats best way for me to install python 2.7 on squeeze without breaking other stuff? |
| 02:48.49 | ikonia | iToast: then it's nothing to do with the changes to the interface file you made |
| 02:48.50 | somiaj | nick[0]: really I wouldn't ask about Mips and its features here, this is #debian after all. wheezy will probably be out sometime in the middle of next year |
| 02:49.04 | iToast | ikonia, its now showing the network card as up |
| 02:49.12 | somiaj | nick[0]: note of course you can use it now, just no security updates |
| 02:49.20 | ikonia | iToast: what ? make up your mind |
| 02:49.21 | iToast | I can't ping google or the router and I can't ssh in |
| 02:49.30 | ikonia | iToast: what does ifconfig -a show you for the interfaces |
| 02:49.54 | Shoya | somiaj, ok if it's on Virtual Box i guess the resolution is limited? |
| 02:49.56 | nsadmin | iToast, ok, what's your gateway address? can you ping it now? |
| 02:50.14 | iToast | nsadmin, can't ping |
| 02:50.18 | ikonia | iToast: what does ifconfig -a show you for the interfaces |
| 02:50.28 | nsadmin | what happens when you try? |
| 02:50.34 | iToast | nsadmin, can't find host. |
| 02:50.42 | iToast | ikonia, lo eth0 eth1 |
| 02:50.49 | ikonia | iToast: lo is worthless |
| 02:50.54 | iToast | Says eth1 has recieved 13 packets and sent 27 |
| 02:50.58 | nsadmin | well no |
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| 02:51.04 | nsadmin | not worthless |
| 02:51.10 | ikonia | iToast: what IP does the interface you are trying to bring up have |
| 02:51.15 | nsadmin | just not relevent at the moment |
| 02:51.16 | ikonia | nsadmin: for this situation it is |
| 02:51.38 | iToast | it shows none. |
| 02:51.49 | ikonia | iToast: ok, so please pastebin your interfaces file |
| 02:51.50 | nick[0] | somiaj: I'm ok with that for now. I'm not so much interested in features, as experiences with Mepis from dyed-in-the-wool Debianites. Honestly, I'll probably end up installing Wheezy sometime soon, since I can't find enough information about Mepis. 'still, I'm curious why anyone might have come back to Debian after trying it. |
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| 02:51.56 | Maiku-kun | hi all |
| 02:51.59 | iToast | ikonia, kinda hard... |
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| 02:52.02 | ikonia | iToast: type it out |
| 02:52.11 | crypticmofo | i all is #debian-next the only support for wheezy ? |
| 02:52.15 | crypticmofo | i think there dead tonight |
| 02:52.23 | abrotman | nick[0]: last i knew, mepis wasn't based on Debian anymore? |
| 02:52.28 | somiaj | Shoya: yea I think you want to install some vbox drivers inside the guest, but I'm not use to that, I switched to kvm + vnc a while ago |
| 02:52.36 | abrotman | nick[0]: but really, this channel is for Debian support, not Mepis support |
| 02:52.48 | Shoya | some vbox drivers |
| 02:52.55 | somiaj | nick[0]: there is #mepis |
| 02:53.01 | Shoya | where can i find them somiaj, guess i'll look around |
| 02:53.35 | Maiku-kun | my wm runs applications from config file each time I change X screen resolution. Is there any way to workaround this? (I don't want it considers change resolution as X server start) |
| 02:54.10 | iToast | ikonia, Renembered how this happened last time. |
| 02:54.15 | iToast | I was missing auto eth1 |
| 02:54.25 | iToast | now it's got the same ip as before.... |
| 02:54.31 | ikonia | great problem solved |
| 02:54.42 | iToast | Ima try mac based static ips |
| 02:54.49 | ikonia | mac based static IP ? |
| 02:54.58 | ikonia | do you mean from dhcp ? |
| 02:55.01 | iToast | yea |
| 02:55.09 | iToast | my router lets me specify based on the mac :| |
| 02:55.13 | nsadmin | that works well, you change the ip in one place |
| 02:55.28 | nsadmin | so does mine... it runs debian :) |
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| 02:57.20 | ReAzem | Hello! I use AwesomeWM and google chrome keeps starting on 'floating', this didn't happen yesterday. I tried to revert to the original config file and it didn't solve the issue. |
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| 02:57.47 | pablo | hello, does debian has something like kickstart for automated installacions? |
| 02:57.58 | pablo | or there is no mature solution for this |
| 02:58.13 | nick[0] | abrotman: Yes, but their channel doesn't hold a candle to Debian's. I'm a point of "why bother with Mepis, when you can use Debian? |
| 02:58.17 | nick[0] | " |
| 02:58.33 | nsadmin | pablo, look into fai |
| 02:58.40 | abrotman | nick[0]: right, so use Debian .. problem solved :) |
| 02:58.42 | nick[0] | abrotman: but am still curious if anyone has experimented--you know, just in case it saves time |
| 02:58.58 | nick[0] | abrotman: look's like that's what I'll probably do ;-) |
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| 02:59.32 | crypticmofo | can i ask a wheezy question here in regards to my networkmanager not working |
| 02:59.34 | crypticmofo | ? |
| 02:59.58 | abrotman | yes |
| 03:00.07 | abrotman | i'm not sure why you'd think otherwise |
| 03:00.17 | crypticmofo | k |
| 03:00.38 | Devastator | networkmanager and problems, that's new |
| 03:01.17 | abrotman | works fine for me |
| 03:01.17 | crypticmofo | im running the i3-wm right it uses a nm-applet or network manager .. when i try to connect to wifi i get error 32 insufficent privs .. i ran it as root also / meaning i ran i3 as root .. it tries to connect but never get the wpa password |
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| 03:01.35 | abrotman | crypticmofo: i'd guess you're missing some dbus thing .. |
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| 03:01.44 | crypticmofo | oh |
| 03:01.46 | abrotman | crypticmofo: have you tried using wicd or wifiradar instead? |
| 03:01.52 | crypticmofo | nope |
| 03:01.57 | crypticmofo | im assuming install dbus ? |
| 03:02.15 | nsadmin | one thing, your /etc/network/interfaces may be relevent, maybe you should pastebin that too (altho what you're saying suggests nm has control over your wifi already) |
| 03:03.21 | crypticmofo | let me go install dbus |
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| 03:03.29 | crypticmofo | brb have to reboo to wheezy |
| 03:03.50 | abrotman | would just use wicd or wifiradar |
| 03:04.19 | pablo | nsadmin: do you know if I can create a cd with fai? |
| 03:04.48 | nsadmin | no I don't; I haven't used it |
| 03:06.04 | chovy | ok, i'm back |
| 03:06.17 | chovy | fsck is still running. is that normal? |
| 03:06.23 | Devastator | yes |
| 03:06.33 | Devastator | you have a 1tb drive |
| 03:06.49 | chovy | 2tb i think |
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| 03:06.57 | Devastator | even.. |
| 03:07.06 | chovy | oh, now it says Pass 2: |
| 03:07.16 | nsadmin | yeah I thougth 2 as well (1.8t partition) |
| 03:07.22 | chovy | yup |
| 03:07.38 | chovy | .2 we loose to marketing dept. |
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| 03:08.39 | nsadmin | they should get at least 1 tb of their own... they should buy a drive since they're cheeeep |
| 03:09.19 | nsadmin | 200g could be enough |
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| 03:10.02 | chovy | oh i was joking, about how the marketing dept at Seagate tells you you're getting 2TB and when you go to use it it's only 1.8T |
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| 03:11.00 | nsadmin | oh ok :) |
| 03:11.34 | chovy | ok, fsck finished |
| 03:11.51 | chovy | should i just exit outta here and try a reboot? |
| 03:11.58 | chovy | or run it on /dev/sda2 |
| 03:12.22 | nsadmin | are you in the live? or in the live in the chroot? |
| 03:12.52 | herrkey | don't reboot, it's useless |
| 03:12.56 | herrkey | this is not windows |
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| 03:13.26 | nsadmin | I would be curious to mount /dev/sda2 somewhere and do an ls on it |
| 03:13.28 | chovy | i don't know. i think i exited out of chroot so i could do fsck |
| 03:13.56 | nsadmin | herrkey, so he should stay in the live env forever more... |
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| 03:14.35 | herrkey | of course |
| 03:14.38 | herrkey | until he fixes grub |
| 03:14.57 | herrkey | what does "sudo fdisk -l" tell you, chovy |
| 03:14.58 | herrkey | ? |
| 03:15.11 | chovy | just says /dev/sda1 |
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| 03:16.20 | chovy | what should i do now? |
| 03:16.28 | chovy | i'm thinking if i reboot it might work |
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| 03:17.15 | herrkey | it won't, love |
| 03:17.30 | herrkey | but if it'll make you feel better, you can try it |
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| 03:17.45 | chovy | i got a lot of i/o errors |
| 03:17.48 | herrkey | unless fsck correted some error, somehow, then it might have fixed it |
| 03:18.06 | herrkey | yes, but usually when grub is screwed, it's screwed, and you need to reinstall it |
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| 03:18.34 | luis__ | hello |
| 03:18.55 | chovy | you were right |
| 03:19.54 | luis__ | trying to config my vimrc but I don't see a file in my hidden home directory |
| 03:20.12 | chovy | ~/.vimrc |
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| 03:20.48 | LtL | luis__: /etc/vim/vimrc |
| 03:20.51 | abrotman | luis__: so create one |
| 03:20.55 | Shoya | woo now i have 1024x768 resolution < though max is 1440x900 |
| 03:20.59 | luis__ | I checked. no file under home but there is a /etc/vimrc |
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| 03:21.08 | abrotman | luis__: you can create the one in your $HOME |
| 03:21.17 | herrkey | just create one, or, better yet, copy the example one |
| 03:21.21 | chovy | ok, i'm back in Live Install |
| 03:21.27 | chovy | what should i do now? |
| 03:21.56 | luis__ | ok thanks |
| 03:22.13 | Shoya | ok, seamless mode works for me |
| 03:23.07 | luis__ | but if I create it in my home directory how would vim know to use my ~/.vimrc and not my /etc/vimrc |
| 03:23.20 | abrotman | luis__: it will use both |
| 03:23.21 | chovy | luis__: you override /etc/vimrc with ~/.vimrc |
| 03:23.24 | herrkey | vim is quite smart. |
| 03:23.37 | herrkey | chovy so rebooting didn't work? |
| 03:23.37 | luis__ | qot yall |
| 03:23.42 | chovy | herrkey: nope |
| 03:23.49 | herrkey | do "sudo fdisk -l" |
| 03:23.50 | chovy | what should i do? |
| 03:23.52 | herrkey | and tell me what you see |
| 03:24.04 | chovy | yeah, it says /dev/sda1 |
| 03:24.20 | herrkey | it must say more than that |
| 03:24.36 | chovy | has a warning about GPT detected on /dev/sda |
| 03:24.36 | herrkey | how many /dev/sda*s |
| 03:24.41 | herrkey | hm, good |
| 03:24.44 | chovy | just the on /dev/sda1 |
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| 03:24.51 | chovy | start, 1 and ednd 243202 |
| 03:24.54 | chovy | system gpt |
| 03:24.55 | herrkey | does it say anything about BIOS, or "boot" under the "System" column? |
| 03:24.57 | chovy | id ee |
| 03:25.06 | chovy | System says GPT |
| 03:25.16 | herrkey | that ee thing, if I recall correctly, is the right flag |
| 03:25.18 | luis__ | so for my fyi, /etcvimrc is the global file for every user and ~/.vimrc is my own setup. Right? |
| 03:25.27 | chovy | luis__: yes |
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| 03:25.37 | luis__ | thank you |
| 03:25.37 | chovy | you can custmoize with ~/.vimrc |
| 03:25.40 | luis__ | this is all |
| 03:26.25 | luis__ | going to now ditch gedit |
| 03:26.29 | luis__ | lol |
| 03:27.03 | herrkey | type "vimtutor" on your terminal |
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| 03:27.58 | luis__ | will do but I wanted to set up my vimrc for web development |
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| 03:33.30 | herrkey | vimtutor will get you started |
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| 03:41.55 | chovy | herrkey: how should i proceed |
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| 03:42.17 | chovy | need to get grub installed i think |
| 03:42.23 | br87 | Hello, I'm looking for a debian master. someone who has a LOT of knowledge with Debian |
| 03:42.25 | chovy | and that will solve my problem |
| 03:42.33 | Mikaze | Anyone know what happened to Debian Multimedia? |
| 03:42.41 | simonlnu | br87: just state the issue |
| 03:42.56 | simonlnu | Mikaze: domain name change |
| 03:42.59 | simonlnu | !dmm |
| 03:42.59 | dpkg | [dmm] deb-multimedia.org (formerly debian-multimedia.org) is a repository of unofficial packages maintained by Christian Marillat, not in Debian for legal reasons or because the packages are too poor in quality. See http://deb-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm squeeze>. Remember to include a "non-free" component in your sources.list lines. See also <dmm list>, <dmm mirrors>, <dmm pinning>, <why not dmm>, <dmm remove>. |
| 03:43.31 | herrkey | chovy try grub-setup |
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| 03:43.50 | Shoya | is it better to do apt-get build-dep wine or just apt-get install wine? |
| 03:44.18 | chovy | herrkey: command not found |
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| 03:44.26 | herrkey | use sudo |
| 03:44.30 | chovy | i'm root |
| 03:44.50 | herrkey | are you sure? |
| 03:44.50 | chovy | whoami -> root |
| 03:44.59 | herrkey | type grub and press tab |
| 03:44.59 | chovy | i exited out of chrtoo env |
| 03:45.10 | chovy | no grub |
| 03:45.13 | herrkey | push it twice |
| 03:45.19 | br87 | herrkey vc again? |
| 03:45.24 | chovy | no grub |
| 03:45.32 | chovy | i am aback in Live Install env |
| 03:45.40 | chovy | do i need to mount everythng again? |
| 03:46.17 | herrkey | no... |
| 03:46.20 | herrkey | weird, though |
| 03:46.26 | herrkey | I would thinkg debian live rescue would have grub in it |
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| 03:47.53 | chovy | so Text Rescue then? |
| 03:49.25 | chovy | grub installed failed |
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| 03:50.55 | herrkey | hm... |
| 03:50.56 | herrkey | ok |
| 03:51.01 | herrkey | go back to the live system |
| 03:51.07 | herrkey | install gfdisk |
| 03:51.09 | herrkey | oops |
| 03:51.11 | herrkey | gdisk |
| 03:52.43 | chovy | it says unable to locate gdisk when i type apt-get install gdisk |
| 03:53.55 | herrkey | hm, yes... debian live is usually a little out of date |
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| 03:55.08 | abrotman | squeeze doesn't have gdisk |
| 03:55.27 | herrkey | do you know how we can change the patition flag? |
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| 03:55.36 | chovy | i don't want to screw up my data |
| 03:55.41 | chovy | i will back this up first. |
| 03:55.42 | chovy | Thanks guys |
| 03:55.52 | herrkey | partition flags shouldn't erase anything |
| 03:55.52 | chovy | time to buy a mac |
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| 03:55.59 | herrkey | but backing up is good |
| 03:56.03 | herrkey | you should have one already |
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| 03:57.04 | abrotman | parted maybe? |
| 03:57.21 | Devastator | where can I get the description of debian groups? |
| 03:57.26 | lgp171188 | Hi, I have an updated Debian Wheezy installation with GNOME 3. When I try to install the extensions from extensions.gnome.org using iceweasel, it prompts me for the installation. On agreeing to install, nothing happens. Reloading the extension page shows it as uninstalled. What could be the issue here and how to fix it? |
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| 04:02.02 | Uuni | There are a lot of people in this channel |
| 04:02.03 | abrotman | lgp171188: use epiphany |
| 04:02.24 | Devastator | abrotman do you know if debian gives always staff group for directories created in /usr/local? |
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| 04:02.34 | abrotman | gives who wha? |
| 04:03.18 | Devastator | abrotman sorry, does every directory created in /usr/local will have 'staff' as group? |
| 04:03.40 | abrotman | appears that way |
| 04:04.27 | Devastator | hum.. |
| 04:04.39 | Devastator | but I guess it can be changed manually |
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| 04:11.37 | seeqwell | sorry guys we have to break up :-( I'm back on Kubuntu. Debian went ballistic on my machine and wouldn't let me log into facebook with the chrome family |
| 04:11.39 | seeqwell | peace |
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| 04:15.49 | RichardRaseley | I am having this strange issue running Wheezy with Gnome Shell. When I come back from being away for a while (assuming the monitors have gone to sleep and the screen has locked), unlock the screen, and open my browser (google chrome) the moment I interact with the browser window (open a tab, start typing, etc.) it jumps to the left screen (I have 3x 24" samsung monitors). There is no other issues and I can drag it b |
| 04:15.51 | RichardRaseley | ack without issues and it doesn't misbehave until the next time I go away for a while. |
| 04:16.13 | RichardRaseley | The only thing I can think of that may be of note is my left monitor is the only one connected to my GTX 690 via displayport - the others are dvi-d |
| 04:16.29 | Devastator | I wouldn't go back to ubuntu because I can't use chrome.. jesus |
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| 04:18.39 | RichardRaseley | Does anyone have any ideas / suggestions as to what might be causing this? I was thinking of just switching the displayport monitor to the 3rd dvi-d port and seeing if that changed anything - but I am pretty lazy so if I could fix it without crawling under my desk that would be awesome. |
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| 04:41.05 | lgp171188 | abrotman: I installed debian and it got installed without X and gnome. Then I manually installed stuff. Epiphany and a lot of related packages weren't installed (gnome-js-common). So I guess installing them will make it work. Thanks |
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| 04:41.28 | mah454 | I Compiled new kernel and switch to this , but consoles [tty1-6] (Ctrl+Alt+F[123456]) not work ! |
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| 04:41.47 | mah454 | How can find problem and fix it ? |
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| 04:44.00 | abrotman | lgp171188: i'd probably install the gnome metapackage |
| 04:44.09 | abrotman | mah454: use a Debian kernel? |
| 04:44.57 | lgp171188 | abrotman: Doing it from epiphany doesn't work either :-/ |
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| 04:46.20 | abrotman | lgp171188: it's possible the plugin is broken .. i've used some that do work |
| 04:47.25 | sney | hmm. I just got a new motherboard and my fans are running full tilt |
| 04:48.03 | sney | temperatures are all pretty low so it's not like it's overheating. they just aren't slowing down after post |
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| 04:49.44 | mah454 | abrotman: compile new kernel (3.6.4) |
| 04:51.05 | abrotman | mah454: i guess you get to debug it .. |
| 04:51.15 | Devastator | mah454 have you tried backports? |
| 04:51.28 | dvs | ,kernels |
| 04:51.29 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.6-trunk-686-pae (3.6.4-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.32-1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.32-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.3-686-pae (3.2.23-1~bpo60+2); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-46); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-29) |
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| 04:51.48 | mah454 | Devastator: no , downloaded from kernel.org |
| 04:51.54 | mah454 | How can debug it ? |
| 04:52.06 | Devastator | so I guess you won't have support over here |
| 04:52.24 | abrotman | mah454: ask #kernel or ##linux .. Debian provides kernels that work |
| 04:53.10 | Devastator | I don't know why people still like to build kernels from source, I guess they think "Once I build a kernel from source I will become a badass linux user!" |
| 04:53.31 | sney | well, reading through the descriptions of stuff in make menuconfig can be a learning experience |
| 04:53.47 | mah454 | ok |
| 04:53.50 | mah454 | thank you :) |
| 04:53.55 | sney | !kernel handbook |
| 04:53.55 | dpkg | The Debian Linux Kernel Handbook (http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ , packaged as debian-kernel-handbook since Wheezy) serves as a single access point to all kernel-related documentation. See chapter 4.2 to rebuild official Debian kernel packages, see chapter 4.5 to build a custom kernel from Debian kernel source. |
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| 04:55.24 | herrkey | Why no, though? |
| 04:55.31 | Devastator | sney I agree that a good 10, 12 years ago, the user would be considered an advanced one if he could build a kernel from source, it was really painful and you had to know your hardware exactly |
| 04:55.34 | herrkey | why not* |
| 04:55.57 | herrkey | You can get a smaller image and get rid of the initrd |
| 04:55.58 | Devastator | but now.. it's easier to just use backports |
| 04:56.12 | herrkey | Not to mention get a kernel that uses less memory. |
| 04:56.18 | sney | Devastator: not really even then. it's a good educational experience to do it, I think, but certainly not necessary for a production system |
| 04:56.38 | abrotman | it's still outside the scope of this channel |
| 04:56.45 | Devastator | sorry |
| 04:56.46 | abrotman | the debugging part i mean |
| 04:56.48 | sney | that too. |
| 04:57.09 | sney | so how about giving me a direction to start in on my issue? :) |
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| 04:57.23 | Devastator | disk space and memory are plenty these days |
| 04:57.28 | abrotman | sney: there are a bunch of programs for fan control .. |
| 04:57.35 | herrkey | I don't know about many years ago, but today you don't really need to know that much about your hardware. |
| 04:58.28 | Devastator | Linux thought me a lot about hardware.. |
| 04:58.48 | sney | abrotman: you can be sure that I did try that first. fancontrol's pwmconfig detects no compatible modules |
| 04:59.09 | sney | besides, all I want is regular ol' acpi fan throttling |
| 04:59.34 | abrotman | sney: BIOS update? |
| 04:59.40 | sney | the newest |
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| 04:59.46 | abrotman | sney: uname ? |
| 05:00.03 | sney | 3.2.0-3-amd64 |
| 05:00.14 | abrotman | so old! |
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| 05:01.46 | abrotman | sney: there is a -4- in wheezy, though i doubt it'd have that fix |
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| 05:04.01 | sney | abrotman: aye, it's a new motherboard, so I've done hardly anything with this wheezy install in about 2 weeks. last one died |
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| 05:04.22 | sney | I'll give er a reboot though. why now |
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| 05:05.12 | themill | dpkg: tell lalala222 about root |
| 05:05.39 | scooty_puff | i had ubuntu repositories in my /etc/apt/sources.list and then i ran dist-upgrade. is there any way to fix this? |
| 05:06.15 | themill | scooty_puff: reinstall using your backups |
| 05:06.15 | abrotman | did you install any packages? |
| 05:06.51 | scooty_puff | yes |
| 05:07.06 | scooty_puff | i installed all of them |
| 05:07.33 | herrkey | holy jesus |
| 05:07.47 | herrkey | may god save your soul |
| 05:07.49 | herrkey | son |
| 05:07.49 | themill | mah454: btw, decide whether you're running ubuntu or debian and don't ask in both places. |
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| 05:08.07 | herrkey | he's probably running debuntu by now |
| 05:08.14 | herrkey | or is it ubunian? |
| 05:08.22 | scooty_puff | it still runs. but ive lost the ability to use any package manager |
| 05:08.59 | scooty_puff | i get a waterfall of broken package warnings |
| 05:09.10 | herrkey | reinstall the thing |
| 05:09.22 | herrkey | no fix is possible/worth the headache |
| 05:09.25 | abrotman | scooty_puff: right, that'll teach you |
| 05:09.29 | themill | scooty_puff: I bet you have. Back up your data and reinstall or restore a previous backup. /msg dpkg aptitude clone |
| 05:09.54 | sney | !frankendebian |
| 05:09.55 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince #linux to help. |
| 05:10.17 | sney | "everything works fine but I can't use apt" doesn't mean everything is working fine |
| 05:10.29 | herrkey | lol |
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| 05:10.49 | scooty_puff | it hasnt crashed and i can reboot fine |
| 05:11.01 | abrotman | then why are you complaining? |
| 05:11.21 | scooty_puff | i cant install anything or update anything |
| 05:11.25 | herrkey | Think of it as a plane with one good turbine and one broken one. |
| 05:11.30 | themill | scooty_puff: you've been told how to solve that |
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| 05:11.51 | herrkey | You don't wanna use that plane. |
| 05:12.27 | scooty_puff | well as long as it still flies |
| 05:12.51 | haylo | more like an old dog, with 3 legs |
| 05:13.01 | dvs | champion! |
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| 05:14.42 | abrotman | scooty_puff: you have two choices a) reinstall b) live with what you have |
| 05:16.07 | scooty_puff | maybe ill start my own distro |
| 05:16.11 | themill | is not sure why this discussion is still going 10 minutes later |
| 05:16.44 | herrkey | is not sure what's so wrong with that |
| 05:16.57 | themill | scooty_puff: that's probably a good idea -- that way you'll understand why you shouldn't do what you've done. |
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| 06:19.27 | VZ2iCarly | hi all, I am trying to get a Squeeze container (VMWare Workstaion 9 hypervisor) setup, when I try to install the VMWare Tools (a set of utilities to enhance performance of the guet OS (debian squeeze) in the virtual environment) and I am getting an error that says "you need the gcc and kernel headers to continue" and the sad part is that the container is offline (physical host machine has no nternat connectivity) so the question is |
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| 06:20.14 | herrkey | You need to install "linux-headers". |
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| 06:20.43 | VZ2iCarly | herrkey: and as for gcc? |
| 06:20.48 | herrkey | That's because VMWare compiles some modules. |
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| 06:21.30 | herrkey | Maybe get the packages from www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
| 06:21.40 | herrkey | and put them in the machine |
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| 06:21.55 | VZ2iCarly | ok, let me go to my container, set ths up and if i have any further questions than 'll opop back in here... this may take awhile so thanks for being so patient |
| 06:22.31 | herrkey | I'd make network work, though. |
| 06:24.24 | VZ2iCarly | no can do... i don't have money as to pay for internet access |
| 06:24.32 | VZ2iCarly | i am curently at friend's house |
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| 06:42.34 | jelly-home | VZ2iCarly: to be more precise, install linux-headers-$(uname -r) and build-essential packages |
| 06:43.09 | jelly-home | there is no "linux-headers" named package, virtual or real |
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| 06:45.35 | VZ2iCarly | so what would I search for from the aptitude screen? root shell, then run aptitude then activate search functionality and search for.. then how to install the gcc (once again from aptitude) |
| 06:45.52 | herrkey | sorry, there's one in wheezy here |
| 06:46.42 | VZ2iCarly | I am a new linux user, and as such, I would ike to use a "simpler" approach, not too many commands just a few searches, select and then hit the get button |
| 06:48.08 | jelly-home | the simpler approach is to use the command line |
| 06:48.27 | jelly-home | aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential |
| 06:49.30 | VZ2iCarly | so the command is apt-get install -uname -r right? if not just give me the correct command)S) |
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| 06:49.55 | VZ2iCarly | so the command is apt-get install linux-headers -uname -r right? if not just give me the correct command)S) |
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| 06:50.18 | VZ2iCarly | sorry about that, forgot the linux-headers bit |
| 06:50.30 | jelly-home | that was the _exact_ command |
| 06:54.07 | VZ2iCarly | now, is -uname the exact of what I need to put there, or is that a variae for "username"? as i've seen that in some documentations i've read |
| 06:54.43 | herrkey | open a terminal and type "uname -r" |
| 06:54.54 | herrkey | it'll give you your current kernel version |
| 06:55.41 | herrkey | then you can do "apt-get install linux-headers-PUTVERSIONHERE" (for instance |
| 06:56.33 | KaiSforza | VZ2iCarly: using the $(foo bar) executes foo bar and puts it there. |
| 06:56.51 | jelly-home | VZ2iCarly: just copy and paste "aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential" EXACTLY AS IT IS |
| 06:57.21 | jelly-home | do not omit $ or ( or ), do not replace aptitude with apt-get, do not do ANYTHING |
| 06:57.27 | KaiSforza | VZ2iCarly: so say uname -r returns 3.6.5-foo, it would be `aptitude install linux-headers-3.6.5-foo` |
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| 06:58.16 | VZ2iCarly | now, I am still waiting for the os install to wrap up so that I can install those headers, OK, and the build-essentials will cver the gcc bit? |
| 06:58.23 | jelly-home | yes. |
| 06:58.38 | jelly-home | and it's "build-essential" not "build-essentials" |
| 06:59.14 | VZ2iCarly | OK hold on while I flip back to my container to see if the base install is done and if it is then i will take it from there |
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| 07:00.32 | VZ2iCarly | next is there a documentation on how to backport to kde 3.5.10? I *do not* like the KDE 4 |
| 07:01.52 | KaiSforza | VZ2iCarly: you can always install things yourself, though it is NOT recommended. I would recommend looking at other desktop environments/window managers. |
| 07:02.27 | KaiSforza | VZ2iCarly: *as opposed to installing with the package manager on your system |
| 07:03.03 | VZ2iCarly | OK, I seem to like gnome, so I think i'll stick with gnome... |
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| 07:04.28 | jelly-home | KDE 3 is not maintained any more and is not available in Debian at all |
| 07:05.40 | jelly-home | there's a fork http://www.trinitydesktop.org/ I personally have no idea how well it works or how well it's packaged |
| 07:06.38 | VZ2iCarly | and where on earth is the "accounts" control panel? I'd like to give others access to my linux box, but would raher each person have their own account so that each user's files and settings stay the way they should.. unchanged by any other user |
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| 07:10.28 | herrkey | You know... sorry to insist on this, but the command line is often easier than clunky graphical interfaces... |
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| 07:10.47 | herrkey | open a terminal and type "man adduser" |
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| 07:11.31 | peterrooney | adduser is drasticly faster than point and click, and I am not a fast typer |
| 07:11.54 | herrkey | exactly, and it's interactive... |
| 07:12.21 | Jupe | Having trouble installing debian 6.0.6 i-386 net install on an intel xeon (32bit) single core machine. shouldn't be any reason for that I can think of. can anyone thing of any reason why it might not work? |
| 07:12.29 | Jupe | maybe the bios needs update? *shrug* |
| 07:12.40 | herrkey | What's the "trouble"? |
| 07:12.47 | jelly-home | Jupe: "trouble" is somewhat nondescriptive |
| 07:12.54 | Jupe | oh, sorry |
| 07:13.07 | jelly-home | !ask |
| 07:13.07 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 07:13.36 | Jupe | unable to install the kernel. it said there'd be more info in the logs, but I didn't check the logs (I find that error logs are often just hard to read) |
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| 07:14.05 | jelly-home | a 32bit xeon would be 2003 or earlier machine, is that right? |
| 07:14.31 | Jupe | i'm not sure of the year, but somewhere around there, i'd imagine |
| 07:15.46 | jelly-home | Jupe: can you switch to ctrl-alt-f3 or ctrl-alt-f4, find the log, capture the image with a camera(phone) and put it up somewhere? |
| 07:16.18 | Jupe | ah, not at this point. i powered down the machine. |
| 07:16.33 | Jupe | any general idea, tho, of why it may not be able to install the kernel? |
| 07:16.44 | jelly-home | no general ideas, sorry |
| 07:17.16 | Jupe | thanks, anyway. anyone else wanna take a stab at it? |
| 07:18.01 | herrkey | well... |
| 07:18.04 | Jupe | i mean, i might be able to find more information out about the machine, if that'll help |
| 07:18.13 | herrkey | without the logs it'd be like guessing |
| 07:18.24 | herrkey | it's happened here before |
| 07:18.41 | herrkey | trying a different .iso might help |
| 07:18.58 | herrkey | some weekly build, or something |
| 07:19.19 | herrkey | probably not related to your hardware, though |
| 07:19.35 | herrkey | or at least here it wasn't... it was a faulty installer or something |
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| 07:20.34 | Jupe | i could try the more recent 6.0.6 i guess |
| 07:20.46 | Jupe | the iso should be ok, though, and the burn should be ok |
| 07:21.31 | Jupe | media looks ok too |
| 07:22.31 | Jupe | i'll try reburning a more recent iso on a new media. if that doesn't work, i'll find an answer elsewhere. don't have time to nitpick at details and still obtain no answer from people who should know this stuff |
| 07:22.54 | herrkey | Lol. |
| 07:23.33 | herrkey | Give no details, no logs, no diagnostics whatsoever and complains about the people who are helping him for free. |
| 07:24.48 | _geo | if he finds "read the logs" boring :P |
| 07:24.57 | jelly-home | hard to read |
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| 07:26.17 | jelly-home | a valid point for a new user; what he fails to realize is they might be useful to a more experienced volunteer and point to the actual issue |
| 07:27.05 | herrkey | exactly... and this is not *really* "tech support". At least I approach it on a "let's figure it out together" basis. |
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| 07:33.32 | jelly-home | that's what tech support is really about. Scripts and checkpoints are just helpers |
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| 07:35.40 | frankko | I installed Gnome3 by mistake last night while drunk. I do not know how i managed to get it installed. Now i want it gone without messing up AmiWM or xfce.. what would be the best procedure? |
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| 07:36.46 | jelly-home | frankko: which debian release do you have installed |
| 07:37.55 | VZ2iCarly | everyone: thanks for your help with getting the vmware tools up and running on my container |
| 07:38.29 | VZ2iCarly | you are all higly appriciated hy me... once again, thanks for the help |
| 07:38.54 | herrkey | next step: using qemu =P |
| 07:39.13 | jelly-home | eugh, hopefully now |
| 07:39.15 | jelly-home | not* |
| 07:39.24 | herrkey | virtualbox? |
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| 07:43.01 | jebb | im trying to set up an openvpn connection and im stuck at sudo nano vars |
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| 07:47.02 | jebb | cp -R /usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/easy-rsa /etc/openvpn |
| 07:47.31 | jebb | im trying to execute this but i cant get it to transfer the file |
| 07:48.37 | frankko | jelly-home, 3.4.2-1 |
| 07:48.57 | frankko | i would rather not have anything with gtk3 cluttering up my system.. |
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| 07:49.46 | jelly-home | frankko: version of Debian, not Gnome or any of its components |
| 07:49.55 | yang2 | Is there a CD player similar to "xmcd" which got dropped out of Debian ? |
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| 07:51.27 | frankko | jelly, it is wheezy but it seems i have enabled sid repos last night in my drunken stupor. |
| 07:52.16 | frankko | maybe i wanted to try gnome3 or it came with some app i installed.. i do not know. |
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| 07:53.11 | frankko | yang2, why not use mplayer2 or vlc to play your cd's? |
| 07:53.47 | herrkey | you can drop the "I was drunk" story and admit you just wanted to try out gnome3 =P |
| 07:54.07 | herrkey | we won't mind |
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| 07:54.16 | yang2 | yeah frankko I guess I could do that |
| 07:54.16 | Mahoru`Tsunemi | hello |
| 07:54.23 | herrkey | I was drunk once, and I used a Mac. |
| 07:54.30 | SiDz | gnome3 is ugly. from my point of view |
| 07:54.31 | herrkey | "drunk". |
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| 07:54.40 | SiDz | need a lot of tweaking to get beautiful |
| 07:54.54 | Mahoru`Tsunemi | i'm installing debian on a system without RTC so the system boot with date 01/01/1970 |
| 07:55.22 | jelly-home | frankko: don't have a real answer, just a wild-ass guess: you could try pulling out some of the core dependencies and see what would happen. |
| 07:55.24 | frankko | it is not the looks that i dislike (well yes it is ugly) but it is not effective for me and it lodges itself as the default desktop on lightdm |
| 07:55.28 | jelly-home | frankko: apt-get -s --purge remove libgtk-3-0 libgnome-menu-3-0 libgnome-desktop-3-2 |
| 07:55.29 | Mahoru`Tsunemi | here is a clean way to have ntpdate be run at start then ntpd get the time management ? |
| 07:55.38 | yang2 | I dont see CD-ROM eject button in vlc |
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| 07:55.46 | VZ2iCarly | OK, now, here's a fun one:: how to do all of the following in a simple not too time-consuming easy-to-manage way (aka from the gnome):: 1) create a local webserve that supports html, php, mysql 2) have each user have a "sites" or "public_html" folder so tha when you go to carly-vps/~foo (replace foo with the username of the user) and you'll see he html/php content they've put in the public folder and 3) create a mail server so that |
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| 07:55.59 | frankko | aaah i found the culprit! It was AWN that installed gnome |
| 07:56.18 | VZ2iCarly | of most scipts will function |
| 07:56.19 | SiDz | you should check log to see what command u used to install gnome |
| 07:56.31 | jelly-home | VZ2iCarly: none of that is GUI friendly. |
| 07:56.33 | herrkey | Mahoru`Tsunemi putting it at /etc/rc.local ? I'm not sure if there's a more ortodox way. |
| 07:56.34 | SiDz | and remove it by the same command but remove instead of install |
| 07:56.38 | SiDz | and auto-removeafter |
| 07:56.49 | Mahoru`Tsunemi | herrkey: that's the duty way i was thinking :D |
| 07:57.09 | Mahoru`Tsunemi | hum, i'm not sure that duty is the world i want to use.... |
| 07:57.20 | herrkey | I get the gist. |
| 07:57.22 | Mahoru`Tsunemi | so... the not clean way :D |
| 07:57.28 | herrkey | It'll will *work*, so... |
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| 07:58.11 | herrkey | or just put ntpdate on cron |
| 07:58.17 | frankko | jelly-home, that worked. Thank you that is three perfect hits on two days. Much internet love to you sir! |
| 07:58.39 | frankko | i feel a bit indebted =D |
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| 07:59.05 | jelly-home | frankko: did it really work? I specifically added -s to make it inactive so you can see all the things it would remove |
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| 07:59.15 | Mahoru`Tsunemi | <herrkey> or just put ntpdate on cron <-- that is very not clean :) |
| 07:59.52 | frankko | all it removed was awn-c-addons and alacarte.. nothing i use anyways |
| 08:00.09 | herrkey | it's quite clean, actually |
| 08:00.34 | jelly-home | Mahoru`Tsunemi: add -g to ntpd's startup options |
| 08:00.40 | peterrooney | Mahoru`Tsunemi: rc.local |
| 08:01.04 | herrkey | actually, the man page basically recommends about three ways: 1. run it manually, 2. startup script, 3. cron |
| 08:01.14 | jelly-home | Mahoru`Tsunemi: ie. make sure /etc/default/ntp has a line like NTPD_OPTS='-g' |
| 08:01.20 | Mahoru`Tsunemi | jelly-home: that's the cleaner way i was loking for :) |
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| 08:01.44 | frankko | another completley unrelated question.. in xchat why/how did it not save save my settings not to show join/part messages? |
| 08:01.53 | herrkey | well, if you're using ntpd then forget ntpdate |
| 08:03.10 | jelly-home | frankko: xchat only saves settings if you a) exit cleanly, or b) open and close the Network List |
| 08:03.18 | jelly-home | it's kind of silly |
| 08:03.20 | Mahoru`Tsunemi | i didn't know that ntpd can do a time jump, so i was thinking for ntpdate, but if it can, great :) |
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| 08:03.47 | frankko | last night i close xchat by running out of battery =P |
| 08:03.54 | jelly-home | they seem to want you not to use ntpdate at all |
| 08:03.56 | Screedo | hi all! How is ZFS working in Debian with a raidcard IBMserveRaid M1015? i'm setting up a pc for pure storage, will run 6x1TB hdd's create a raid Z. |
| 08:04.28 | peterrooney | Remembering the man page is cheating! |
| 08:05.05 | frankko | jelly-home, Also is it possible to run guake on a non standard window manager like AmiWM? (i have updated the WM from source as the debian version was 14 years old) |
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| 08:05.30 | jelly-home | frankko: no clue what guake is |
| 08:05.41 | Mahoru`Tsunemi | floating terminals power |
| 08:05.42 | frankko | it is a terminal that drops down |
| 08:05.58 | frankko | like in the game quake (1-3) |
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| 08:08.18 | frankko | i find it a little bit odd that sound quality is so horrible on this system on ubuntu and mint whilst perfectly fine on debian. |
| 08:08.39 | frankko | even volume is working perfectly |
| 08:09.01 | frankko | on *buntu and mint it is so low that it counts as whispering |
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| 08:11.53 | VZ2iCarly | OK, is it *possible* to setup a file-share so that other machines on the loca network can access content on my linux box? (content placed in a "public" folder under each user's home folder) and each user would have a public_read and a public_dropbox foler in the /home/foo/piblic folder (i.e. /home/carly/public/public_dropbox for others to contribute content to me and /home/carly/public/public_read for others to read and copy conten |
| 08:12.40 | frankko | VZ2iCarly, yes |
| 08:12.44 | herrkey | use NFS |
| 08:12.52 | frankko | or samba |
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| 08:12.59 | frankko | both sollutions work |
| 08:13.29 | herrkey | You can also use LDAP with NFS or Samba. |
| 08:13.37 | herrkey | To have like a storage. |
| 08:13.55 | herrkey | with autofs |
| 08:14.11 | herrkey | It can get a bit tricky to set up if you've never done it, though. Lots of reading. |
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| 08:16.02 | frankko | btw what happened to youtube last week? it is all messed up. Nothing in the right places and it does not show the regular "newest upload" things. However it works fine to see that stuff in google reader/liferea |
| 08:16.09 | frankko | and all whie |
| 08:16.12 | frankko | white* |
| 08:16.42 | herrkey | lol. |
| 08:16.45 | herrkey | this is #debian |
| 08:16.55 | herrkey | who the hell knows what's up with youtube |
| 08:17.54 | frankko | hehe |
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| 08:18.19 | frankko | i thought it might be because of the firefox-trunk i installed at first... seems it not |
| 08:18.38 | herrkey | debian doesn't have firefox |
| 08:19.34 | frankko | herrkey, i know it is.. but there are a lot of smart people here that probably knows more than i do in most areas. I am an historian... pretty useless. |
| 08:19.47 | herrkey | useless? |
| 08:19.56 | herrkey | That's quite cool, actually. |
| 08:21.22 | frankko | Very kind of you. So you like history? |
| 08:21.28 | frankko | Any particular era? |
| 08:21.37 | herrkey | Of course. |
| 08:22.10 | herrkey | Not really... but I'm reading Vol. 2 of the New Cambridge Modern History right now. |
| 08:22.19 | frankko | fun |
| 08:22.35 | frankko | I had a lectorship at the university before i moved north |
| 08:23.08 | frankko | Women can do crazy things to your life =D |
| 08:23.34 | frankko | now i work on distance. |
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| 08:23.55 | frankko | writing a book about russian tsarist history |
| 08:25.06 | frankko | i also co author a book about the poptop/deluge in poland. And i get a little giggle every time i start deluge-gtk... even though it was a rather sad event. |
| 08:25.25 | frankko | a lot of poles died. |
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| 08:25.42 | herrkey | Great... I like Russian history and literature. |
| 08:25.48 | herrkey | I'm going to bed, though. =P |
| 08:26.12 | frankko | have a lovely night |
| 08:26.22 | herrkey | Thanks. See you around. |
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| 08:27.08 | jebb | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:27.18 | jebb | dose any one have an idea why this would be happening |
| 08:27.42 | jebb | im root |
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| 08:30.16 | EmleyMoor | jebb: What are the permissions on the file? |
| 08:30.35 | jebb | not quite sure |
| 08:30.47 | EmleyMoor | ls -l vars |
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| 08:31.26 | jebb | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1670 Nov 11 00:18 vars |
| 08:31.42 | EmleyMoor | There you go, no x... |
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| 08:31.59 | EmleyMoor | chmod u+x vars and try again |
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| 08:35.34 | jebb | it works |
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| 08:36.58 | jebb | any ideas what this me be taking about lol? |
| 08:37.02 | jebb | might* |
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| 08:39.48 | frankko | wonder if anyone has managed to compile TWiN on debian? It works on arch but all my attempts on debian has failed. |
| 08:41.16 | jebb | when i type ./vars it says NOTE: If you run ./clean-all, I will be doing a rm -rf on /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/2.0/keys |
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| 09:10.41 | VZ2iCarly | So, how to setup and manage this NFS? |
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| 09:12.33 | VZ2iCarly | and why so many DVDs to contain the entire OS? not even Mac is that bad... |
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| 09:59.49 | jebb | how to i check to see what daemons or services are active |
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| 10:01.27 | engla | jebb: that's something systemd can handle with ease, but sysv init doesn't |
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| 10:08.31 | somiaj | jebb: service --status-all (should tell you some stuff) |
| 10:09.08 | somiaj | note that basically just runs /etc/init.d/service status (so if the init script cannot determin the status you won't get usefil info) |
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| 10:09.36 | somiaj | you can use ps (or top) to see what processes are actually runing, netstat to see what is listening on your inet sockets |
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| 10:36.09 | Leoneof | hi, i can't download wheezy beta 3 via torrent, it's down? |
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| 10:44.47 | Qantourisc | I want/need to modify /etc/init.d/memcaches, what is the best way ? and what problems will I encounter ? |
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| 11:02.43 | ws2k3 | i have a question about mysql server |
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| 11:02.53 | ws2k3 | i have add skip dns resolve |
| 11:03.01 | ws2k3 | but had this to be in the mysqld section of the config ? |
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| 11:05.49 | shadow_fox | cant connect to my external hdd ... showing me this error... https://gist.github.com/4054577 |
| 11:06.27 | Qantourisc | shadow_fox: auto-mount or manual mount ? |
| 11:07.06 | shadow_fox | Quantourisc: i just plugged it in in my usb port and it shows me this error. but on other laptop its working good |
| 11:07.16 | Qantourisc | shadow_fox: so automount ? |
| 11:07.27 | Qantourisc | if the answer is "i don't know" it's auto :) |
| 11:07.48 | shadow_fox | I don't know. |
| 11:08.05 | Qantourisc | shadow_fox: then it's auto :) |
| 11:08.14 | shadow_fox | ok. |
| 11:08.14 | Qantourisc | shadow_fox: bad news: can't help you there i don't use auto |
| 11:08.24 | shadow_fox | ohkk. |
| 11:08.26 | Qantourisc | shadow_fox: might also want to mention what desktop envirement you are using |
| 11:08.38 | shadow_fox | debian squeeze. |
| 11:08.48 | Qantourisc | that wasn't an answer :) |
| 11:08.56 | simonlnu | that's a release, not a desktop ;) |
| 11:08.58 | Qantourisc | KDE or Gnome ? (usually) |
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| 11:09.08 | shadow_fox | gnome. |
| 11:09.12 | simonlnu | s/he meant like xfce, gnome, or whatever else |
| 11:09.45 | shadow_fox | simonlnu: gnome |
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| 11:14.05 | simonlnu | probably the fuser.conf needs amending |
| 11:14.30 | shadow_fox | i am nt very good at this |
| 11:15.18 | simonlnu | what's ls -lA /dev/sdb1 say? |
| 11:15.34 | simonlnu | it's ok, it's like any skill, it's learned =) |
| 11:15.51 | shadow_fox | lemme run that |
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| 11:16.50 | shadow_fox | simonlnu: brw-rw---- 1 root floppy 8, 17 Nov 11 16:44 /dev/sdb1 |
| 11:17.47 | simonlnu | hm, ok. looks alright |
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| 11:17.54 | simonlnu | you in floppy group? |
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| 11:18.19 | simonlnu | run `id` and see, just say so if you are or not |
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| 11:18.44 | shadow_fox | yep i m in floopy group |
| 11:18.58 | shadow_fox | uid=1000(sisyphus) gid=1000(sisyphus) groups=1000(sisyphus),4(adm),20(dialout),21(fax),24(cdrom),25(floppy),26(tape),27(sudo),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),109(netdev),110(bluetooth),113(fuse),116(scanner) |
| 11:19.17 | simonlnu | hm |
| 11:20.13 | zappal | shadow_fox: paste the cmd moutn |
| 11:20.15 | zappal | mount |
| 11:20.35 | zappal | but not in the channel here |
| 11:21.16 | shadow_fox | zappal: i am not manual mounting the disk, auto mount. |
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| 11:21.50 | EmleyMoor | Yes, but please pastebin the output of "mount" (alone) |
| 11:23.01 | shadow_fox | ok |
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| 11:23.42 | woshty | why does adduser --group --gid xxxx name not work? |
| 11:23.54 | shadow_fox | EmleyMoor: zappal: http://paste.debian.net/208273/ |
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| 11:24.10 | simonlnu | the ntfs-3g mount thingy isn't setuid root i bet |
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| 11:25.25 | shadow_fox | mount /dev/sdb1 says this https://gist.github.com/4054624 |
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| 11:26.42 | simonlnu | ls -lA $(which ntfs-3g-mount) |
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| 11:27.25 | zappal | shadow_fox: i think it's not mounted |
| 11:27.53 | zappal | because i can't find /dev/sdb1 in the cmd mount |
| 11:27.57 | shadow_fox | simonlnu: its showing the home folder |
| 11:28.20 | simonlnu | um, did you type like i did above? |
| 11:28.32 | shadow_fox | zappal: ifi try mount /dev/sdb1/ it shows that error |
| 11:28.36 | simonlnu | sorry about the um, left overs... |
| 11:28.48 | simonlnu | it's not a directory, it's a file |
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| 11:29.39 | zappal | shadow_fox: mkdir /mnt/testmount && mount -t auto /dev/sdb1 /mnt/testmount |
| 11:29.52 | zappal | as root |
| 11:31.51 | zappal | and perhaps first as root fdisk -l | tail |
| 11:32.24 | zappal | or dmesg | tail |
| 11:32.35 | zappal | is there any /dev/sdb1 |
| 11:32.46 | zappal | or /dev/sdb |
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| 11:34.17 | CrystalVoid | greetings everyone.. i am looking to build a system that runs off tmpfs all bundled into 1 initramfs can anyone point me in the right direction ? i have not had much luck on google |
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| 11:40.43 | zappal | shadow_fox: grep disk /etc/group what does it saying? |
| 11:40.48 | dgeary2 | CrystalVoid, what have you come up with so far? |
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| 11:46.30 | CrystalVoid | well i think i need to get into bootstraping tho a few friends tell me that is not correct |
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| 11:48.02 | CrystalVoid | i attempted http://reboot.pro/14547/ tho tbh i think i am in way over my current skill level |
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| 12:16.02 | Xunie | Hey, fellas. I'm having some trouble getting an Atheros AR8121 working on my system, any hints? |
| 12:16.10 | dgeary2 | CrystalVoid, wow the procedure at that link is elegant |
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| 12:16.48 | dgeary2 | it might provide some understanding to extract a ramdisk and take a look inside (it's mostly shell scripts) |
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| 12:17.10 | Xunie | lspci detects the card, even after manually modprobing ath9k I still get just a 'disconnected' in the network tray thing in Gnome... |
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| 12:26.05 | oo_miguel | can I somehow undelete a file I just removed? |
| 12:26.09 | oo_miguel | i am on ext3 |
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| 12:27.36 | abrotman | !tell oo_miguel about undelete |
| 12:27.52 | abrotman | Xunie: uname -r ? |
| 12:28.32 | Xunie | abrotman, running stable, fresh install 2.6.32-5-686 |
| 12:28.52 | abrotman | Xunie: i'd probably try the kernel from backports.debian.org |
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| 12:30.39 | CrystalVoid | dgeary2: thanks i will do that .. i did not get the setup in that link to work .. but yah i should get a better understanding if i read the scripts |
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| 12:38.00 | Xunie | abrotman, dumb/noob question: what package should I install? I got the backports in my sources, I just don't know what package to get from the backports. |
| 12:38.44 | abrotman | Xunie: aptitude -t squeeze-backports install linux-image686 |
| 12:38.46 | osfd | hello. I have a weird problem. From any applications on my computer, if I want to print and lauch the printing dialog, i can see all available printers. From thunderbird AND firefox (from mozilla) I cannot see the printers. These are the only applications I have the problem with... |
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| 12:41.26 | ChrisH | osfd: Why not asking mozilla? These packages are not from debian repos |
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| 12:43.25 | abrotman | pretty sure this is documented, i vaguely recal something about those apps caching available printers |
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| 12:43.53 | osfd | ChrisH: you're right, but maybe someone around knows about this problem and may help...!? |
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| 12:49.36 | fnmueller | osfd: anyways, I would first try to use official packages ad if there is need of the bleeding edge versions, check out http://mozilla.debian.net/ |
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| 12:52.14 | osfd | fnmueller: you're right too, but I chose this package after a veeeery long reflexion and this is the only package I use a non-official package for |
| 12:52.31 | Brigo | may be i found a bug? i installed libapache2-mod-python, and apache starts to gets segmentation faults: [notice] child pid 26907 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) |
| 12:52.59 | abrotman | Brigo: in which version of Debian? |
| 12:53.37 | Brigo | wheezy |
| 12:53.59 | abrotman | Brigo: is your system full up to datE? |
| 12:54.48 | Brigo | yes, i upgraded it 12 hours ago. |
| 12:55.25 | abrotman | Brigo: so 'aptitude update;aptitude full-upgrade' .. no packages to be upgraded? |
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| 12:57.19 | Brigo | abrotman: a minute, please it is a very slow server in a very slow connection :-) |
| 12:58.12 | abrotman | server? wheezy? |
| 12:58.28 | Brigo | my own testing server, only for playing :-) |
| 12:58.46 | osfd | fnmueller: compared to official firefox, how far (beyond) are theses releases ? |
| 13:00.10 | abrotman | osfd: look, they're generally pretty up to date |
| 13:00.19 | fnmueller | osfd: maybe a day behind or so. Probably less, especially if you make use of the beta or aurora releases |
| 13:00.38 | osfd | fnmueller: ok, let's try this... |
| 13:01.21 | fnmueller | iceweasel is currently 16.0.2 |
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| 13:01.42 | fnmueller | as in the release branch |
| 13:02.01 | Brigo | abrotman: system is updated. :-) |
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| 13:02.45 | abrotman | Brigo: just now? or already was? |
| 13:03.19 | abrotman | Brigo: a segfault generally says that a library is out of sync, or your hardware is having issues |
| 13:03.24 | Brigo | already was. |
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| 13:08.06 | Brigo | abrotman: i was looking for bug in http://bugs-search.debian.org, but there is nothing reported. |
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| 13:09.17 | Brigo | i could try install it again and look kernel log and syslog carefully, but i think i will found nothing interesting about hardware and so. |
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| 13:13.24 | nachos | ls -lah |
| 13:13.27 | nachos | uname -a |
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| 13:14.05 | decci | I need server monitoring script to get uptime, load & memory and ping check and display with check every 5 mins. Multiple linux instances with php etc enabled to montior A good example of what we want: http://status.nodedeploy.com |
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| 13:15.26 | abrotman | decci: snmp |
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| 13:15.43 | abrotman | Brigo: which architecture are you on ? |
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| 13:18.16 | nachos | hey friends. |
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| 13:18.43 | InHR | If 'python' package points to 'python2.7', they're effectively the same, right? So why 'apt-get -s build-dep python' wants to install 16 packages while 'apt-get -s build-dep python2.7' wants to install 37? Where that (IMHO huge) difference comes from? |
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| 13:18.45 | nachos | mad ip address zophy |
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| 13:20.01 | zophy | CDC estimates 50 million deaths from flu this year |
| 13:20.14 | nachos | sick statistic. |
| 13:20.17 | engla | InHR: they are different packages |
| 13:20.20 | nachos | i like puns |
| 13:20.53 | engla | InHR: 2.7 provides the actual python implementation |
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| 13:21.27 | Brigo | abrotman: Centaur CentaurHauls (i think it is an arm) |
| 13:21.48 | abrotman | Brigo: dpkg --print-architecture |
| 13:22.24 | InHR | engla: yes, python is a metapackage which points to python2.7, right? but still, I don't understand where that difference (16 vs 37) comes from. |
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| 13:22.50 | InHR | engla: anyway, which one should I use? |
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| 13:23.02 | engla | depends on what you want to do |
| 13:23.21 | Brigo | abrotman: i reinstalled i now it is running ok... :-/ |
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| 13:24.03 | jimcooncat | Is it appropriate to ask how to fix Google earth on Squeeze? I think my problem is that I can't sign in to download the maps. |
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| 13:25.01 | InHR | engla: I want to build python2.6 from sources and install it locally in my home dir (only to use it w/ one project which is setup as virtualenv). |
| 13:25.47 | engla | you should probably use the python2.6 package in that case |
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| 13:26.51 | Brigo | abrotman: lunch time. See you latter. Thanks very much :-) |
| 13:27.10 | abrotman | enjoy |
| 13:27.14 | abrotman | didn't do anything .. :) |
| 13:27.33 | InHR | engla: guys at #python told me that it's allright to build python2.6 from sources using deps from 2.7 (which is cool for me, because I don't have to mess up w/ my default python installation). |
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| 13:28.42 | engla | well you decide then :-) I have nothing to add |
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| 13:30.33 | nachos | exit |
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| 13:31.13 | nachos | I <3 GNU SCREEN |
| 13:32.11 | InHR | engla: Yes, I know. But apart from that "2.6 vs 2.7" issue (which is a different thing), I'm still wondering why 'apt-get build-dep python' wants to install 16 packages and 'apt-get build-dep python2.7' - 37 ;-) |
| 13:32.44 | engla | download both source packages and take a look |
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| 13:37.35 | easy | hello |
| 13:38.10 | easy | it is possible to use su <user> -c "command" without authentication? |
| 13:38.21 | abrotman | with sudo perhaps |
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| 13:38.53 | easy | no other options? |
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| 13:43.22 | nachos | puuurrrrfect. |
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| 13:51.14 | osfd | fnmueller: works perfect now. thank you § |
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| 13:51.39 | fnmueller | osfd: great :-) thanks for the feedback! |
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| 13:56.37 | Qalqi | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.6/i386/bt-cd/ |
| 13:56.47 | Qalqi | can someone tell me which one to install among all cd-x torrents |
| 13:57.02 | Qalqi | whats the difference between them anyway |
| 13:57.03 | Qalqi | ? |
| 13:57.40 | abrotman | if you have fast internet, you only really need the netinst |
| 13:57.50 | lusers | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.6/i386/bt-cd/debian-6.0.6-i386-netinst.iso.torrent <-- |
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| 14:00.17 | Qalqi | will try this one |
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| 14:14.49 | Qalqi | lusers: abrotman what is a business card debian? |
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| 14:16.02 | g0dfrey | i install libnetfilter-queue-dev and i can compile my programs but cannot link it ...so what's maybe the problem? |
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| 14:17.08 | pav5088 | Anyone here using Wheezy+LDAP+DHCP? |
| 14:17.27 | pav5088 | I think I may have found a bug, but I want to confirm |
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| 14:19.07 | lusers | Qalqi: Smaller disc. |
| 14:19.17 | zophy | http://tux.crystalxp.net/png/david68-tux-alien-2240.png |
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| 14:19.40 | anhday | can anyone answer me, do i need acpi suport if i'm not on laptop? |
| 14:20.09 | dvs | Qalqi: It's really a bare minimum install. You MUST have an internet connection to do the installl |
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| 14:28.00 | pav5088 | anhday, you don't NEED it, but you should probably install it if it's enabled in your BIOS. |
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| 14:29.41 | yayLINUX | hey |
| 14:30.18 | yayLINUX | if I want to create a backport in squeeze, do I need to do: deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main or do I need to replace squeeze with wheezy? |
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| 14:34.23 | eptalon | hello |
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| 14:36.13 | lusers | yayLINUX: The former. You don't destroy the sources. Append the new backport source at end of the file. |
| 14:36.26 | Qalqi | i am stuck installing debian netinst |
| 14:36.40 | eptalon | Qalqi: in what way? |
| 14:36.42 | Qalqi | on the configure the network part |
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| 14:37.36 | Qalqi | it asks for wireless Essid for wlan0 |
| 14:38.03 | Qalqi | but doesnt accept the wireless network name i provided |
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| 14:38.49 | lusers | Qalqi: Use the wired cable for installations if you can. |
| 14:39.49 | Qalqi | lusers: only wireless network exists for me as of now |
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| 14:40.42 | Qalqi | i couldnt even tutorial for debian installations theorugh wireless network online |
| 14:40.53 | Qalqi | couldnt even find* |
| 14:41.08 | eptalon | Qalqi: is your wlan adapter supported? - some work better than others. |
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| 14:44.58 | abrotman | Qalqi: what sort of wifi? |
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| 14:45.01 | abrotman | wpa? |
| 14:46.26 | eptalon | is it worth switchinmg from ext4 to btrfs for a boot volume? |
| 14:47.15 | abrotman | seems like overkill in both situations |
| 14:48.00 | eptalon | abrotman: it's working fine, with ext4, most other volumes are xfs anyway. |
| 14:48.02 | engla | eptalon: probably not |
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| 14:49.59 | anhday | pav5088: i dont see acpi in my bios |
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| 14:51.48 | pav5088 | anhday, do you ever want to suspend or hibernate your PC? |
| 14:52.03 | anhday | oh |
| 14:52.11 | anhday | i log off or shutdown only |
| 14:52.22 | anhday | i get the idea, thanks pav5088 |
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| 14:54.45 | pav5088 | anhday, it might also allow shutdown of your PC if you press the power button |
| 14:54.52 | pav5088 | ...and some other nifty tricks |
| 14:54.57 | anhday | ohhh |
| 14:55.14 | pav5088 | I'm not sure if it throttles your fan speed etc... |
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| 14:55.41 | pav5088 | that may be handled by the hardware... *shrugs* |
| 14:55.55 | nachos | oh yeh, tiny fonts |
| 14:56.26 | nachos | nachos_: beat it! |
| 14:56.30 | abrotman | eptalon: i'm saying .. what benefits of btrfs or ext4 do you see on a separate /boot/ ? |
| 14:57.00 | anhday | i don't see any event going in /proc/acpi |
| 14:57.07 | anhday | first i thought i don't need it |
| 14:57.09 | anhday | :) |
| 14:57.16 | eptalon | idk, all I do with it is start the machine (once a day), and perhaps install a new kernel, about every two weeks. |
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| 15:00.25 | KsM | 15:56.30 < abrotman> eptalon: i'm saying .. what benefits of btrfs or ext4 do you see on a separate /boot/ ? |
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| 15:00.53 | KsM | meh, accidental paste |
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| 15:07.07 | moty66 | On a UNIX system, everything is a file; if something is not a file, it is a process. is this right? |
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| 15:08.00 | abrotman | sockets |
| 15:08.24 | moty66 | sockets and pips ? |
| 15:08.31 | abrotman | moty66: there are special file types, not quite the same as a regular file/directory |
| 15:08.32 | moty66 | they are files |
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| 15:09.19 | engla | define 'everything' |
| 15:09.53 | abrotman | moty66: okay, then why are you asking us? you already know the answer |
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| 15:11.00 | moty66 | abrotman: no, i really didn't know the answer. Am reading an introduction to Linux and I saw that. |
| 15:11.36 | moty66 | but I still don't know how a HD or a ETH card can be a file in the kernel |
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| 15:11.56 | moty66 | maybe I have to keep reading :) |
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| 15:44.19 | Projectns | Hello |
| 15:44.26 | Projectns | can somebody help me? i got a problem :( |
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| 15:44.45 | xand | just ask the question |
| 15:44.51 | Projectns | okay |
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| 15:45.18 | Projectns | i have a debian server with apache2 ..and i wanna set a htaccess password for directory..but it dont work |
| 15:45.19 | Projectns | :( |
| 15:45.38 | Projectns | and i dont know why |
| 15:45.40 | abrotman | and you've read the docs at httpd.apache.org ? |
| 15:45.54 | xand | you probably need to use AllowOverride in your apache conf |
| 15:45.58 | Projectns | i little bit..my english is not so good ..m from germany |
| 15:46.05 | Projectns | mhh |
| 15:46.12 | Projectns | but my current config are wrong i think :/ |
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| 15:46.47 | xand | by default you can't use .htaccess files |
| 15:47.06 | Projectns | mhh |
| 15:47.06 | Projectns | i dont know xD |
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| 15:47.25 | xand | you have to enable the options you want in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/<relevant file> e.g. change "AllowOverride None" to "AllowOverride xxxxxx" |
| 15:47.45 | Projectns | but i dont know if my configruation are right .. |
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| 15:48.27 | Projectns | my config for 000-default is |
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| 15:49.17 | rahsputin | hi |
| 15:49.20 | Projectns | NameVirtualHost *:80 <VirtualHost *:80> ServerName 127.0.0.1 ServerAlias 127.0.0.1 AccessFileName .htaccess DocumentRoot /var/www |
| 15:49.53 | Projectns | <Directory /var/www> AllowOverride All Order Deny,Allow Allow from All </Directory> </VirtualHost> |
| 15:49.58 | Projectns | something wrong |
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| 15:50.44 | rahsputin | does this LiveCD Version contain an Installer? http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-6.0.5-i386-xfce-desktop.iso |
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| 15:51.07 | abrotman | rahsputin: it should |
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| 15:51.17 | abrotman | rahsputin: debian has a normal installer if oyu'd rather use that |
| 15:51.41 | Projectns | wrong? |
| 15:51.55 | Projectns | Forbidden |
| 15:51.58 | Projectns | You don't have permission to access / on this server. |
| 15:52.06 | rahsputin | abrotman: :-) still using the USB-Modem connection ... my buddy is downloading all curent stable DVD's at the moment though |
| 15:52.30 | rahsputin | abrotman: with a DSL Connection :-) |
| 15:53.18 | jhutchins_wk | rahsputin: All dvd's is a waste |
| 15:53.31 | rahsputin | jhutchins_wk: why you say that ? |
| 15:53.46 | rahsputin | jhutchins_wk: cause of the updates ? |
| 15:53.59 | jhutchins_wk | 30,000 packages with internationalization & tonnes of stuff you'll never need. |
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| 15:54.28 | rahsputin | jhutchins_wk: whats the matter with that... it doesn't i'll beninstalling all the stuff |
| 15:54.36 | rahsputin | ^mean |
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| 15:55.20 | jhutchins_wk | Generally you download the primary dvd and install anything else you need via either the network or an apt offline tool. |
| 15:55.43 | jhutchins_wk | rahsputin: There are also alternative architectures. |
| 15:55.51 | Projectns | thx for support |
| 15:55.59 | Projectns | help;) |
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| 15:57.51 | jhutchins_wk | Projectns: We don't necessarily see what your problem is. What does the error log say? Whare are the ownership/permissions on the files in /var/www? |
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| 15:58.49 | moty66 | Projectns: maybe you can get a faster answer on #httpd |
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| 15:59.07 | rahsputin | apt offline is the same as having the DVD (contents) sitting somewhere to get locally or and installing via USB-Modem doesn't work |
| 15:59.07 | apt | okay, rahsputin |
| 15:59.13 | rahsputin | lol |
| 15:59.27 | rahsputin | jhutchins_wk: ^ |
| 16:00.19 | anoob | I cannot install fglrx driver: http://pastebin.com/QrPZ4SDz |
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| 16:00.39 | Projectns | #httpd? |
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| 16:01.57 | jhutchins_wk | Projectns: What release are you running? |
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| 16:03.51 | jmd` | Whenever I login, I get a popup saying that there was a kernel failure. Obviously it is lying. What's doing this, and how can I stop it? |
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| 16:05.09 | Projectns | i dont know oooooh :((((((((( |
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| 16:07.25 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions calibre |
| 16:07.26 | judd | Package: calibre on i386 -- squeeze: 0.7.7+dfsg-1squeeze1; wheezy: 0.8.51+dfsg-1; sid: 0.8.64+dfsg-1; sid: 0.9.0+dfsg-1 |
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| 16:08.31 | jhutchins_wk | jmd`: Perhaps the problem is that you don't understand what has actually failed? |
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| 16:09.01 | Projectns | yes |
| 16:09.30 | Projectns | i wanne only save my directory with htaccess.. with a standart configuration .. |
| 16:09.37 | Projectns | it is a local server |
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| 16:14.02 | Projectns | so i have the standart configuration |
| 16:14.35 | Projectns | direction /var/www AllowOverride All dont work |
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| 16:15.42 | jhutchins_wk | Projectns: Yes, it does work exactly the way the apache docs say it does. |
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| 16:16.00 | Projectns | mhh but he dont ask me for a username or password? |
| 16:16.13 | jhutchins_wk | Projectns: I would suggest that you get the files working without password access first, then figure out what you need to enable to make password protection work. |
| 16:16.39 | Projectns | okay |
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| 16:16.52 | jhutchins_wk | Projectns: I've suggested several diagnostic steps you could perform, starting with figuring out what relase you're on. |
| 16:16.55 | Projectns | i can see my data ...my direcotry ..index.html |
| 16:17.04 | Projectns | i have the standart configuration |
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| 16:18.24 | jhutchins_wk | Projectns: There's really no such thing as a standard configuration for apache. |
| 16:18.31 | Projectns | okay |
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| 16:18.54 | jhutchins_wk | Projectns: /usr/share/doc/apache2/README.Debian.gz might be helpful, it's been a long time since I set one up from scratch. |
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| 16:19.30 | abrotman | Projectns: did oyu check the error.log ? |
| 16:19.35 | Projectns | nope |
| 16:19.52 | jhutchins_wk | Projectns: Also, everything in an .htaccess file can also go in the main config file, .htaccess is to override settings when you don't have access to the main file. |
| 16:19.56 | Projectns | everything work well...i can see my data in the browser my html |
| 16:20.13 | Projectns | the configuration is the default from apache... |
| 16:20.28 | Projectns | i create a .htaccess data in my directory /var/www..and the .htpasswd.. |
| 16:20.36 | Projectns | and that was all |
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| 16:22.43 | nsadmin | are you -going- to check your error log? |
| 16:22.46 | Projectns | no |
| 16:23.41 | Projectns | i only need a standart configuration XD |
| 16:23.45 | Projectns | for htaccess |
| 16:23.53 | Projectns | with a virtualhost config |
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| 16:27.06 | nsadmin | kinda sad, that you might not find what you're looking for because you're choosing to not look |
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| 16:29.09 | Projectns | next error |
| 16:29.16 | Projectns | Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. |
| 16:30.01 | nsadmin | so the reason for that error will be posted in the log (as you may notice, that message has no info on the actual error) |
| 16:30.38 | Projectns | where can i find the error |
| 16:30.39 | Projectns | log |
| 16:31.13 | LtL | Projectns: where is your htpasswd file, in doc root or server root /var/log/httpd or apache2 maybe |
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| 16:35.20 | jmd` | jhutchins_wk: Well the kernel obviously hasn't failed, otherwise I wouldn't have a running system. |
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| 16:35.59 | jmd` | Also, any kind of device failure I would expect to be shown in syslog, but there is nothing of interest there. |
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| 16:40.14 | LtL | jhutchins_wk: not sure what he's trying to acomplish, g'luck |
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| 16:52.21 | josh__ | Hi, I'm just wonder what could be causing such slow internet connections on debian 6? On windows webpages load almost instantly and i can watch youtube in 720 without it stopping to buffer. But on linux webpages load slower and youtube stops to buffer all the time when it 360p |
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| 16:55.44 | jimcooncat | josh__: I likely couldn't help you, but you're not giving enough info for someone else to help you either. Most obvious -- what kind of local connection, wired or wireless? |
| 16:55.55 | gnarface | josh__: first of all the worst possible thing you could have done is load up youtube and expect it to behave the same as in windows. the linux flash engine is crippled. |
| 16:56.25 | gnarface | josh__: try benchmarking the network connection with stuff like wget, netcat, and ping |
| 16:56.48 | gnarface | josh__: try to wget a single very large file for example. |
| 16:56.54 | josh__ | Im using a wireless connection. Im using a proprietary driver from ati |
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| 16:57.18 | gnarface | could be a buggy wifi driver too but to confirm that you need evidence of packet loss |
| 16:57.35 | josh__ | when i ping google theres no loss |
| 16:57.41 | gnarface | the ati driver shouldn't have really any relevance here at all |
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| 16:58.03 | josh__ | http://www.noobslab.com/2012/05/disable-ipv6-if-your-internet-is.html I tried this too |
| 16:58.06 | gnarface | also note that if you're using any web browser other than iceweasel expect dog-ass slow page rendering times. chrome and opera especially |
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| 17:11.25 | anoob | I can't install fglrx: http://pastebin.com/QrPZ4SDz |
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| 17:14.01 | sney | anoob: did you disable recommends? the fglrx-modules-dkms is an important part |
| 17:14.35 | anoob | sney, no |
| 17:15.06 | anoob | it was missing contrib ... |
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| 17:15.13 | sney | ah |
| 17:15.15 | anoob | i had main and nonfree |
| 17:15.16 | anoob | :) |
| 17:15.17 | anoob | thanks |
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| 17:29.43 | Tehnix | hey there, just installed systemd and was trying to just plainly run systemctl and it returns "Failed to get D-Bus connection: No connection to service manager.", anyone know how to fix this? |
| 17:30.04 | Tehnix | side-note: haven't rebooted or anything, not really too keen on it since it's a remote machine, might that solve it? |
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| 17:34.06 | nsadmin | Tehnix, maybe you don't have a dbus thingy installed? |
| 17:34.18 | tremon | I'd think that systemctl needs to talk to systemd, so if systemd isn't running the dbus connection will fail |
| 17:34.48 | tremon | and if dbus isn't installed, the dbus connection will fail too :) |
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| 17:35.22 | tremon | and I would advise against installing systemd on a remote machine |
| 17:36.17 | tremon | (against any change of essential boot utilities on a remote system actually) |
| 17:36.28 | Tehnix | hmm, okay :/ |
| 17:36.55 | nsadmin | no experimentin on your production web server!! |
| 17:37.06 | Tehnix | well, the original problem actually was that Debian doesn't have rc.d/ but rc0-6.d folders |
| 17:37.13 | Tehnix | nsadmin: it's more of a play server :) |
| 17:37.40 | tremon | well, if you can handle it not booting at all, go for it |
| 17:37.42 | nsadmin | well... ok then |
| 17:37.42 | Tehnix | And, I hade to put a service into rc.d and it used rc.conf etc |
| 17:37.50 | Tehnix | s/hade/had |
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| 17:38.15 | Tehnix | but, reading around I got a little confused on the whole rc0-6.d thing, and there was a proposed setup using systemd instead |
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| 17:39.35 | abrotman | Tehnix: we have /etc/init.d/ |
| 17:39.49 | Tehnix | equivalent of rc.d? |
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| 17:40.24 | aguitel | i have 2 os installed but update-grub not find archlinux ,any tips ? |
| 17:40.31 | nsadmin | the things in init.d are symlinked from rc*.d |
| 17:41.08 | nsadmin | install os-prober |
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| 17:41.10 | tremon | aguitel: either install os-prober or add a manual arch stanza in /etc/grub.d/40_custom |
| 17:41.26 | aguitel | os-prober is installed |
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| 17:41.38 | abrotman | Tehnix: let's start with why you need rc.d, or think you do |
| 17:41.43 | Tehnix | you might be able to help me (if you have time for it) |
| 17:41.44 | Tehnix | http://pbrisbin.com/posts/yesod_deployments_with_keter |
| 17:41.53 | Tehnix | setting up keter on my server |
| 17:42.04 | Tehnix | proposed a script in /etc/rc.d/keter |
| 17:42.06 | nsadmin | then you might have to write a grub stanza yourself (at least for now) |
| 17:42.14 | Tehnix | to run it as a service |
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| 17:42.33 | Tehnix | which spun me into the problem |
| 17:42.34 | abrotman | Tehnix: so use /etc/init.d/, then use update-rc.d |
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| 17:42.42 | abrotman | doesn't see how that leads you to systedm |
| 17:42.59 | nsadmin | systemd |
| 17:43.01 | nsadmin | err |
| 17:43.12 | Tehnix | abrotman: in the last section |
| 17:43.23 | Tehnix | there's an alternative solution if you have systemd |
| 17:43.31 | nsadmin | its status in debian has been described as useful, but not finished yet |
| 17:43.45 | Tehnix | so, since I was shooting blindly with the rc.d thing, i tried going that way |
| 17:43.58 | abrotman | Tehnix: anyway, i think you have your answer now? |
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| 17:44.54 | tremon | does anyone know how to reset the "lifetime writes" counter that tune2fs shows for ext4? |
| 17:44.57 | nsadmin | Tehnix, you might wanna experiment with systemd on a machine you have moreorless constant physical access to |
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| 17:46.12 | abrotman | ... |
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| 17:47.54 | aguitel | why os-prober not find the other os ? |
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| 17:48.22 | abrotman | what's the other OS? |
| 17:48.55 | aguitel | abrotman, arch |
| 17:48.56 | nsadmin | dunno, maybe the other os does something to make it unrecognizable to osprober |
| 17:49.11 | tremon | could be any number of things: os is on an inactive volume group or md array, root is encrypted etc |
| 17:50.24 | nsadmin | or maybe osprober can't probe arch |
| 17:50.29 | tremon | or os-prober isn't intelligent enough |
| 17:50.32 | tremon | yeah, that :) |
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| 17:51.03 | jtreminio | Hi all - where can I get a list of the default apt sources? |
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| 17:51.11 | abrotman | !tell jtreminio about squeeze sources.list |
| 17:51.15 | jtreminio | awesome :) |
| 17:51.23 | abrotman | aguitel: what filesystem is the other OS? |
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| 17:53.54 | joar | I'm having trouble mounting a memory card. |
| 17:53.59 | joar | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so |
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| 17:54.13 | abrotman | using what command? |
| 17:54.19 | nsadmin | so, as an interrim solution so you can boot your arch, write a grub stanza that will boot your arch... |
| 17:54.28 | joar | fdisk -l output for the drive: https://gist.github.com/528df804377d76c508d7 |
| 17:54.31 | nsadmin | probably exactly what it says: mount |
| 17:54.42 | joar | abrotman: sudo mount /<drive/partition> |
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| 17:55.16 | tremon | joar: then paste /etc/fstab as well |
| 17:55.28 | tremon | and blkid /dev/sdc1 |
| 17:55.29 | joar | it's not in fstab |
| 17:56.06 | joar | oh |
| 17:56.09 | tremon | if it's not in fstab, then mount /arg1 will never work |
| 17:56.11 | joar | that might've been the issue. |
| 17:56.15 | joar | I see. |
| 17:56.31 | joar | Thought it was something else, but using mount /foo/ /bar/ worked |
| 17:56.39 | nsadmin | it's being in fstab that allows you to abbreviate the mount cmd |
| 17:56.45 | joar | yeah |
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| 18:13.11 | Tehnix | thanks guys :) so far I've been able to add it with update-rc.d (although had to add some skeleton info...), now I'm just wrestling with the fact the the script was written for debian, since it uses stat_busy and such :/ off to google i go again :) |
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| 18:24.29 | jebb | how to i delete a folder ? |
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| 18:24.59 | papero | ciao a tutti |
| 18:25.11 | papero | !list |
| 18:25.11 | dpkg | papero: vedi http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 18:25.17 | spendythrift | I am setting up some scripts to send status reports of my machines once a week...looking for advice, which reports should i consider? |
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| 18:25.46 | abrotman | jebb: rmdir |
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| 18:26.15 | spendythrift | jebb: rm -r <directory name> |
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| 18:34.31 | nsadmin | jebb, rm -r is very dangerous... if the dir is empty, use rmdir |
| 18:35.12 | nsadmin | if it's not empty, you're probably better off habit-wise by emptying the dir first then using rmdir |
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| 18:39.18 | DelphiWorld | Hello Debianists |
| 18:39.25 | DelphiWorld | i'm sure this question would get me kicked out ;-) |
| 18:39.41 | alusion_ | mah boy |
| 18:39.43 | DelphiWorld | please can someone tel me how to know my server ip on lan, any way to scan it out ? i LOSS my lan:( |
| 18:40.05 | alusion_ | ifconfig |
| 18:40.46 | nsadmin | he should try pinging his gw |
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| 18:41.36 | DelphiWorld | nsadmin: no shell access due to my blindness |
| 18:41.45 | DelphiWorld | thank though alusion_ |
| 18:41.51 | ChrisH | DelphiWorld: what do you still have? |
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| 18:42.22 | DelphiWorld | ChrisH: a windows machine connected and a router. still trying to know my debian subnet... :( |
| 18:43.02 | ChrisH | DelphiWorld: admin access to the router? SoHo or "real" equipment? |
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| 18:43.27 | DelphiWorld | ChrisH: MikroTik, the super loved fun router ;-) |
| 18:43.52 | ChrisH | Is that an answer to my question? |
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| 18:44.56 | DelphiWorld | ChrisH: should you please rephrases it ? |
| 18:45.17 | DelphiWorld | Salam khaleel5000 |
| 18:46.14 | ChrisH | DelphiWorld: Do you have admin rights on the router? If yes you can check there the routing table and known IPs. This might not work for DSL Router at home. |
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| 18:46.28 | wolfmitchell | Is there a way to install Debian over SSH? |
| 18:46.44 | gnarface | there are a few |
| 18:46.46 | wolfmitchell | eg. just start the live cd and SSH in) |
| 18:46.52 | wolfmitchell | s/)/ |
| 18:47.12 | ChrisH | DelphiWorld: If you still have physical access, simply login to your debian system and run ifconfig -a |
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| 18:47.20 | DelphiWorld | ChrisH, i do have access. the subnet was 172.16.16.0/24 but debian is not replying there |
| 18:47.26 | wolfmitchell | as I want to replace ubuntu in my linux box. |
| 18:47.50 | gnarface | wolfmitchell: not sure if the livecd is the best idea... if you start any of the other installers in expert mode though there is an option to continue the install remotely after you configure the network... |
| 18:47.50 | DelphiWorld | ChrisH: i do. but i cant read the screen (I Am Blind) |
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| 18:48.42 | wolfmitchell | gnarface, ok, thanks :D |
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| 18:50.11 | ChrisH | DelphiWorld: that makes things more difficult. You can try a broadcastping from Windows: ping 172.16.16.0 But then I am allmost done with my ideas as I do not know what to recommend without knowing what you can read. |
| 18:50.20 | gnarface | wolfmitchell: no problem. good luck. :) |
| 18:51.03 | nsadmin | is it a /24? |
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| 18:51.34 | DelphiWorld | nsadmin: yup |
| 18:51.49 | nsadmin | oh ok... |
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| 18:53.08 | ChrisH | for i in 1 to 255 do ; ping ping 172.16.16.$i done... but I do not know how to do that in windows shell. and from cmd it does not make fun manually testing all IPs |
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| 18:55.39 | gnarface | ChrisH: there's a command-line binary that will list a range of numbers and you can put it in backticks to use it in a for loop... i forget the name sorry :( |
| 18:56.14 | gnarface | ChrisH: oh sorry nevermind you meant on windows |
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| 18:56.44 | gnarface | didn't know for supported ranges... |
| 18:57.46 | jebb | how do i copy a file to another dir |
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| 19:02.58 | nsadmin | jebb, cp path/to/file /wheres/the/dir |
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| 19:04.13 | jebb | cd /etc/openvpn cp easy-rsa/2.0/keys/ca.crt . cp easy-rsa/2.0/keys/server.key . cp easy-rsa/2.0/keys/server.crt . cp easy-rsa/2.0/keys/dh1024.pem . |
| 19:04.24 | jebb | im having trouble doing these commands |
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| 19:12.10 | jebb | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.20 | jebb | any idea why this is happening |
| 19:12.40 | Devastator | jebb it's nat, not net |
| 19:13.08 | jebb | facepalm |
| 19:14.58 | LtL | jebb: it looks like your copying a file onto a file |
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| 19:16.53 | LtL | jebb: cp easy-rsa 2.0/keys/ makes more sense IF easy-rsa is in your current dir |
| 19:17.31 | jebb | this is so confusing |
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| 19:18.02 | LtL | jebb: tab completion helps |
| 19:18.49 | LtL | jebb: what error do you get |
| 19:19.41 | jebb | its not that im geting an error its that ive created my key for a windows machine and am not sure how to transfer them to it |
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| 19:19.55 | jebb | im ssh'ing in the debian machine from the windows pc |
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| 19:20.07 | ujjain | What is the easiest way to get proper disk alignment on a new install? |
| 19:20.10 | Devastator | use winscp |
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| 19:20.28 | LtL | jebb: using putty? |
| 19:20.38 | jebb | yeah |
| 19:20.45 | LtL | jebb: pscp right |
| 19:20.49 | jebb | ? |
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| 19:21.10 | jebb | oh |
| 19:21.17 | LtL | jebb: pscp is putty's scp relative |
| 19:21.17 | Devastator | ... |
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| 19:22.26 | LtL | jebb: pscp user@linuxbox:/path/to/file . <enter> copies the 'file' to your current dir in windows |
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| 19:23.36 | LtL | jebyou'll likely need the ip nless your hosts file knows the hostname |
| 19:23.42 | LtL | *unless |
| 19:24.44 | LtL | he left yes? |
| 19:24.55 | LtL | im talking to myself. |
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| 19:25.23 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:25.36 | LtL | heh |
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| 19:32.07 | LtL | installing cygwin beats putty anyday |
| 19:32.24 | nsadmin | except on size :) |
| 19:32.41 | alusion_ | your name reminds me of nsa |
| 19:32.49 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps how do i reinstall by grub in a lvm and raid configuration |
| 19:33.02 | alusion_ | you work there nsadmin ? |
| 19:33.07 | LtL | nsadmin: that's true but with hdd's these days... tons o space. rm -rf pr0n/ |
| 19:33.08 | Eryn_1983_FL | i tried rub-install but it cant find grub-probe |
| 19:33.28 | nsadmin | alusion_, hmm, wonder why that would be... maybe it's the first three letters :) naww, that can't be it... |
| 19:33.31 | nsadmin | never mind... |
| 19:34.34 | nsadmin | alusion_, welcome to debian support... do you have a debian support issue? |
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| 19:35.28 | alusion_ | Do questions regarding awesome count? |
| 19:35.42 | LtL | nsadmin is a spook!! omg |
| 19:35.54 | nsadmin | I do play spooky... |
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| 19:36.39 | LtL | alusion_: under debian, sure |
| 19:36.49 | nsadmin | alusion_, if you installed it as a debian package, yes... I will say I'm not familiar with it |
| 19:36.52 | alusion_ | Anyways my keybindings are all a disaster compared to the flawless effort of my ubuntu box ;\ I'm working on configuring conky and awesome at the moment, i'll let you know if I run into problems =) |
| 19:37.34 | nsadmin | let's keep comparisons out of this... on the other hand, maybe you can duplicate ubuntu's config files |
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| 19:43.51 | johnfg | hi folks |
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| 19:44.27 | johnfg | is there somewhere I can get libfreerdp1? |
| 19:44.42 | johnfg | I'm running squeeze, btw... |
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| 19:45.42 | nsadmin | what's the package name for it? |
| 19:46.01 | LtL | johnfg: its in sid, look in backports |
| 19:46.28 | LtL | nsadmin: it is a package |
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| 19:47.13 | nsadmin | oh, he quoted the name? |
| 19:47.21 | LtL | yup |
| 19:47.56 | LtL | johnfg: i dont see it in squeeze or backports |
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| 19:48.16 | LtL | http://packages.debian.org/sid/libfreerdp1 |
| 19:49.34 | rozie | there used to be tool called update-intel-microcode. now there's no such command in unstable |
| 19:49.47 | rozie | how to check if new microcode version is avaliable? |
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| 20:46.19 | LtL | woshty: use a deb-src line and aptitude download -t target packagename might work, but the sources.list is risky to add a sid line unless you run sid |
| 20:47.51 | LtL | woshty: a deb-src line should be safe |
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| 20:48.10 | woshty | LtL: i am only adding a deb-src line, what risk should there be? and that does not work for me, due to either some rename issues or multiple packages with the same name or whatever - seems to be bug, the one i posted earlier .. do i just have to extract the -debian stuff in the packages src base dir? |
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| 20:49.53 | LtL | woshty: that line should be safe, download the source package to your pwd, after that you're on your own, sorry :) |
| 20:50.05 | woshty | the source-package is apparently name wpa- in sid, where there was a hostapd- src package in squeeze maybe that leads to my issues of apt complaining about not finding a source package in sid |
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| 20:50.40 | woshty | LtL: k, thx, usually dpkg-dev does all the prep for me :) |
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| 20:55.08 | woshty | grr .. apt-get source wpa works |
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| 20:57.13 | jetole | Hey guys. After I run dpkg --set-selections, how do I implement those changes? |
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| 20:58.27 | mh_le | I have installed squeeze on a virtual machine, but whenever I boot it I got a unaligned pointer error and it reboots ad infinitum |
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| 21:00.08 | mh_le | any idea what I can do to fix it? |
| 21:00.09 | SiDz | jehan sudo echo "package install" | dpkg --set-selections |
| 21:00.11 | SiDz | like |
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| 21:00.24 | SiDz | sudo echo "fail2ban hold" | dpkg --set-selections |
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| 21:00.32 | SiDz | will hold fail2ban |
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| 21:01.37 | Chousuke | actually that won't work |
| 21:01.56 | nkuttler | jetole: do an upgrade |
| 21:02.04 | Chousuke | it needs to be echo "fail2ban hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections :P |
| 21:02.09 | themill | jetole: «apt-get dselect-upgrade» |
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| 21:02.55 | jetole | nkuttler: I tried upgrade and it didn't mention removing any of the packages I just set as uninstall |
| 21:03.00 | jetole | themill: let me take a look |
| 21:04.00 | jetole | fyi: I saved the package state before I test drove kde. didn't like kde and am trying to uninstall everything that wasn't in the saved package state before I installed it. I just ran dpkg --clear-selections && dpkg --set-selections < orig.pkg |
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| 21:05.22 | jetole | themill: wow. Now I see the plethora of packages it wants to uninstall. sweet |
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| 21:07.02 | jetole | themill: seems to be working. I just reviewed the packages as well. Thanks for the help |
| 21:07.09 | themill | no worries |
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| 21:08.31 | jetole | themill: How can I use apt-get to make coffee and do my laundry? |
| 21:09.22 | woshty | ... how do i just build a certain package if i am in the root dir of a package source? |
| 21:09.28 | themill | hmm.... you can "apt-get install wine cheese" and there's plenty of coffee-related bits |
| 21:09.40 | themill | dpkg: tell woshty about package recompoile |
| 21:09.41 | jetole | sweet :-) |
| 21:09.43 | themill | dpkg: tell woshty about package recompile |
| 21:09.49 | themill | dpkg, stupid bot |
| 21:09.50 | dpkg | no, stupid themill |
| 21:10.03 | jetole | I think I used dpkg-build once upon a time to rebuild ldap |
| 21:10.11 | jetole | but long time ago so I am not the best person to asl |
| 21:10.13 | jetole | *ask |
| 21:11.40 | woshty | themill: i did, but someone had the ingenius idea to not have a hostapd package anymore .. but to call it wpa instead, to have huge list of dependencies (qt4-make!), which of course squeeze cannot satisfy |
| 21:14.09 | woshty | themill: but hostapd-0.6.1 or sth is really old, so i would if possible at all, like to upgrade to 1.0 .. but i ran into a lot of problems |
| 21:15.49 | themill | is upgrading to wheezy a reasonable plan for you? |
| 21:16.52 | woshty | themill: qt4-qmake install actually worked .. not really. it is supposed to be a router and wheezy has a lot of new packages and potential problems coming with them .. |
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| 21:17.25 | themill | you'll have to upgrade to wheezy anyway in ~15ish months |
| 21:18.08 | peterrooney | I would try apt-src build --install-debs coffee first |
| 21:18.28 | woshty | themill: .. i believe that when i see it :) the only real issue seems to be sth called libnl3(-dev) netlink sockets .. whatever that is |
| 21:20.01 | jetole | themill: time to ctrl+alt+backspace. Wish me luck ;-) |
| 21:20.07 | themill | woshty: that's known as libnl2 in squeeze. I can't tell you how API compatible they are given the soname bump... but it might work out |
| 21:21.22 | woshty | themill: can i have libnl2 and 3 installed at the same time? |
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| 21:23.08 | themill | probably not |
| 21:23.48 | woshty | hmm .. currently i am downloading texlive-base .. something depended on that |
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| 21:24.21 | themill | packages frequently require texlive for building documentation |
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| 21:27.13 | rahsputin | Hi |
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| 21:34.26 | rahsputin | I have a "nVidia GeForce 6150 LE" and have a hard time watching films with it ... the output is totally messed up ... i am using the nouveau driver in xorg.conf, before that the nv < didn't work either |
| 21:35.46 | rahsputin | xorg.conf: http://paste.debian.net/208433/ |
| 21:36.00 | rahsputin | must i install a special driver for this card ? |
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| 21:37.42 | rahsputin | this is a hwinfo on the card: http://paste.debian.net/208436/ |
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| 21:39.24 | MrFrood | rahsputin: you should have a message from dpkg, read it |
| 21:40.27 | rahsputin | MrFrood, thanx |
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| 21:44.16 | woshty | themill: that might be the case. |
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| 21:57.57 | mang0 | I've just done my first debian install, from minimal net install. However, my wifi card doesn't seem ot be working, and it's a massive fuss to get ethernet up here at the moment. Any ideas as to how I could get my wifi card working from TTY? (No x until I have internet!) Thanks. |
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| 21:59.32 | KsM | mang0: find what card you have -> find the driver -> install the driver |
| 21:59.41 | KsM | ┐('～`；)┌ |
| 21:59.59 | mang0 | KsM: Broadcom BCM4306/2 |
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| 22:00.30 | mang0 | looking for driver now |
| 22:00.31 | KsM | !broadcom |
| 22:00.31 | dpkg | Broadcom Corporation is an integrated circuits supplier. For wireless LAN chipset drivers, ask me about <b43>, <brcmsmac>, <rndis_wlan>, <wl>. For Ethernet controller support, ask me about <bnx2>, <bnx2x>, <tg3>. |
| 22:00.45 | KsM | !b43 |
| 22:00.45 | dpkg | b43 is a driver supporting PCI/PCI-E wireless LAN devices with Broadcom chips, part of the Linux kernel. Firmware is required, ask me about <b43-fwcutter> to provide. 802.11b-only devices and BCM4306 rev 2 are instead supported by <b43legacy>. For BCM4313/4321/4322/43224/43225 (802.11n) device support, ask me about <brcm80211>, <wl>. http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx #bcm-users on irc.freenode.net. |
| 22:00.56 | mang0 | yay, thanks :) |
| 22:01.08 | mang0 | I need b43 legacy then |
| 22:01.12 | mang0 | !b43legacy |
| 22:01.13 | dpkg | b43legacy is a driver supporting PCI wireless LAN devices with legacy 802.11b/g Broadcom chips, part of the Linux kernel. Firmware is required, ask me about <b43-fwcutter> to provide. Modern BCM43xx devices are supported by the <b43> driver. See also <which b43>. http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx #bcm-users on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 22:08.32 | mh_le | I have just installed Debian Sqeeze on a virtual machine, but when I boot I get an error saying Unaligned pointer, press any key to quit, and then the VM reboots... |
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| 22:19.59 | nvz | mh_le: sounds like a vm issue, which isn't really something we can help you with.. even IF "unaliged pointer" were something the OS/kernel could generate, it'd do so in a more elegant way such as a panic, and it wouldnt result in the virtual hardware rebooting.. |
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| 22:24.11 | mh_le | nvz: well it seems to ask me to "press any key to exit" |
| 22:25.06 | nvz | mh_le: idk, I've got a fair amount of knowledge and experience with these sort of things and I haven't a clue where to even begin to help you.. |
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| 22:25.36 | nvz | if you at least be more specific about what the host and vm are, and what version of debian you used..etc.. we might be able to at least get you further towards finding help than you are now |
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| 22:26.04 | mang0 | Hey. I've just installed b43-fwcutter on debian, new install, with no GUI, I've only got TTY. However, I'm not sure what the next stage is to get my wifi working after installing b43-fwcutter...any help? Thanks. |
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| 22:27.12 | mh_le | nvz: it's KVM sorry - I may have found something at http://140.120.7.20/KVM-tool/MyKvmNotes.html |
| 22:27.28 | mh_le | the host it running fedora 17 |
| 22:28.17 | nvz | yeah none of that makes any lights come on upstairs for me |
| 22:28.44 | nvz | I'm at the point anything called KVM doesn't exist cause I'm tired of people reusing that TLA |
| 22:28.56 | nvz | heh |
| 22:29.05 | mh_le | TLA? |
| 22:29.10 | nvz | three letter acronym |
| 22:29.39 | nvz | kvm used to be a piece of hardware that switched your keyboard/mouse/monitor to different machines |
| 22:29.44 | nvz | among many other things.. |
| 22:30.17 | mh_le | ah I see |
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| 22:30.23 | jagginess | uses a kvm switcheroo |
| 22:30.31 | jagginess | iogear baby |
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| 22:30.52 | jagginess | kvm-over-ip too |
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| 22:32.02 | d3xter | hey guys |
| 22:32.21 | d3xter | i'm trying to setup virtualbox, but it seems i'm not able to get host only networking to work properly |
| 22:32.37 | d3xter | the guest os gets an ip from a different ip then the host os |
| 22:32.45 | d3xter | guest is able to ping the host, but not the other way |
| 22:32.47 | d3xter | any hints? |
| 22:33.22 | jagginess | d3xter, #vbox hahaha, btw maybe you want to use the 'bridge' mode |
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| 22:34.33 | mmnicolas | yep, you want a real bridge instead of vboxnet0 |
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| 22:35.23 | d3xter | i do? :D |
| 22:35.38 | jagginess | d3xter, no, i mean you choose 'bridge' from the vm machine settings |
| 22:36.03 | jagginess | d3xter, you username should be in the vboxusers groups though |
| 22:36.59 | mh_le | aaargh! |
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| 22:38.29 | nvz | oh look, abrotman's party has arrived |
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| 22:40.03 | nsadmin | do I detect some dissent? |
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| 22:43.40 | nvz | he's from Philly, I'm from Pittsburgh.. its natural.. |
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| 22:58.48 | b0bi | Hi, is that possible to list all my currently running child processes (created with fork()) using waitpid? |
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| 23:02.07 | hetOrakel | hi, i don't know wheter or not i'm at the right place here, but i have some device which sends periodicly (<??) data to an external IP:PORT say: 212.213.214.215:2000 This is not configurable for me. These are fixed settings of this device. For testing i want to send this traffic to my own internal machine, port # can left alone so i need only some re-routing to my internal addres say 10.0.0.123:2000. Is this possible with iptables? |
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| 23:10.08 | rudi_s | b0bi: man waitpid? But AFAIK no as waitpid only returns children which state changed. Why not store them when calling fork()? |
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| 23:11.21 | rudi_s | hetOrakel: man iptables | less -p REDIRECT might help. |
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| 23:13.18 | b0bi | rudi_s: I am trying to spare myself from writing a storing mechanism :) |
| 23:13.23 | rudi_s | hetOrakel: Please don't ask the same question in multiple channles, that's not polite. |
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| 23:14.32 | rudi_s | b0bi: Just use a malloc()ed array and increase it when it gets too small. |
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| 23:15.50 | hetOrakel | rudi_s: i'm sorry |
| 23:16.04 | rudi_s | np |
| 23:16.23 | hetOrakel | but i'm searching the google for serveral days and people write a lot of crap |
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| 23:22.27 | abrotman | nvz: ? |
| 23:23.25 | abrotman | nvz: nevermind, read the backscroll .. yeah, i know him |
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| 23:38.52 | Devastator | why named queries are denied by default in Debian? |
| 23:40.52 | woshty | what does the file debian/pkgname.install do? |
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| 23:41.20 | themill | woshty: see dh_install(1) |
| 23:41.50 | woshty | themill: ah, thx, that failed during a build |
| 23:42.26 | themill | woshty: that would probably mean that it didn't find the outputs from the compilation. |
| 23:42.45 | woshty | themill: seems so. but that is the first error i get. |
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| 23:44.05 | abrotman | Devastator: i vaguely recall the default config allows anyone to query anything or used to ... |
| 23:44.38 | somiaj | Devastator: what is a named query? |
| 23:44.47 | Devastator | Nov 11 20:44:04 zeus named[32481]: client 192.168.20.2#56902: query (cache) 'sjremetrics.java.com/A/IN' denied |
| 23:44.52 | Devastator | this for example |
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| 23:45.26 | themill | woshty: it may be that the outputs have different names or are in a different location than specified by the install file. (would this be a package that has been altered for multiarch?) |
| 23:45.36 | abrotman | somiaj: named .. bind? |
| 23:45.37 | ilikenwf | anyone here know of a good way to take a big list of ipranges and convert each line to cidr? it's hundreds of thousands of lines and i need to find a fast way to do it |
| 23:45.44 | ilikenwf | ipcalc doesn't cut it |
| 23:45.47 | abrotman | each line? |
| 23:45.49 | ilikenwf | it can only do one at a time |
| 23:45.52 | abrotman | or group them and make a cidr? |
| 23:46.00 | ilikenwf | well, if i can condense the whole list of ranges into cidr that's fine too |
| 23:46.01 | somiaj | abrotman: yea I get it now, I didn't catch name-D there |
| 23:46.08 | abrotman | somiaj: ah okay |
| 23:46.16 | ilikenwf | but i have on each line something like 0.0.0.0-0.0.0.255 |
| 23:46.18 | ilikenwf | and so on |
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| 23:46.33 | ilikenwf | i've tried catting my list and piping it to ipcalc, and i do get ranges, but i'm not sure they're accurate |
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| 23:46.40 | ilikenwf | i'm using these to build ipset blocklists |
| 23:47.05 | ilikenwf | and as it stands, even using uniq, i get duplicate errors and it stops the import of the list of individual ranges |
| 23:47.08 | ilikenwf | so i need a better solution |
| 23:47.24 | ilikenwf | since i'm using a for loop right now, and that takes forever compared to using ipset -R with the piped output |
| 23:47.28 | woshty | themill: i am currently trying to build libpipeline .. there are is only one item per line in the install file, which seems to mean dh_install is guessing which file is needed. that seems to fail. |
| 23:47.34 | ilikenwf | i'm about to give up |
| 23:47.39 | ilikenwf | iptables alone is enough |
| 23:47.43 | ilikenwf | because this crap is stupid |
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| 23:48.21 | woshty | themill: just usr/lib/*/libpipeline*.so.* |
| 23:48.49 | themill | woshty: that /*/ will be for a multi-arch triple. get rid of it and have another go |
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| 23:49.01 | woshty | themill: and dh_install: libpipeline1 missing files (usr/lib/*/libpipeline*.so.*), aborting make: *** [binary] Error 20 is the errormsg .. k, thx |
| 23:49.22 | themill | woshty: squeeze uses /usr/lib while wheezy/sid use /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ etc |
| 23:50.16 | woshty | themill: ah, even for just x86? |
| 23:50.39 | woshty | strange i never ran into that before |
| 23:51.19 | somiaj | sorce packages do not have an arch attached to them (for the most part). So yea it makes the arch of the package depending on the arch of the libs/complier on the system |
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| 23:51.28 | somiaj | well it is fairly new |
| 23:52.19 | themill | woshty: there's only a (small) portion of libraries that have been converted to multiarch at this stage |
| 23:52.50 | themill | (and libpipeline1 is one of them) |
| 23:52.52 | woshty | themill: it worked.. thx |
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