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| 01:38.44 | j4jackj | The recovery is expected to take all night. ... 7:30 AM. Jack wakes up. The recovery is running on schedule. It will take 2 more minutes before it is all done. 7:35 AM. The recovery is running a few seconds behind, but it's done now. Now, by rewinding the events of that fateful week and going deep into the investigation, we can find out what really broke Jack's hard drive. |
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| 01:40.35 | j4jackj | 3/10 headers foun. |
| 01:40.49 | abrotman | j4jackj: do you intend to give us a full play by play? |
| 01:41.07 | j4jackj | No, I was being funny. |
| 01:41.24 | j4jackj | You can have it if you want! |
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| 02:00.08 | martman | im building packages for a custom kernel like this: fakeroot debian/rules binary-headers binary-generic |
| 02:00.24 | martman | is it possible to add the --append-to-version somewhere on that line? |
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| 02:02.41 | abrotman | !kp mantra |
| 02:02.42 | dpkg | kp mantra is, like, make-kpkg clean ; export VER=$(date +'%Y%m%d') NAMEEXT="-$(hostname)-$(dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH)"; make-kpkg --revision=$VER --append-to-version=$NAMEEXT --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image . Add --initrd before kernel_image if you need an <initrd>. |
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| 02:05.13 | martman | looks like all the hits im getting on mantra is just irc logs lol... |
| 02:05.16 | martman | how does that help me? |
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| 02:05.51 | nsadmin | is kp still used by debian kernel devs? |
| 02:07.03 | nsadmin | and/or do vanilla kernel source come with debian/ dirs? |
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| 02:08.01 | martman | i got my sources by doing this: apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r) |
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| 02:08.22 | nsadmin | and those sources obviously have debian/ |
| 02:08.29 | martman | yes |
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| 02:11.23 | martman | so no ideas? |
| 02:11.53 | nsadmin | I'm scrolling back to see what the original thing was |
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| 02:12.12 | nsadmin | oh, the version string. |
| 02:12.55 | martman | yeah, not sure what the correct/easiest way to to add that into the mix |
| 02:13.59 | abrotman | did he try using kernel-package yet? |
| 02:14.20 | nsadmin | what abrotman must have been thinking when he had the bot spew the factoid, is you can use make-kpkg to deal with the version stuff that you might want |
| 02:15.03 | martman | im not sure how to call that under fakeroot, and to make sure all 3 packages get made |
| 02:15.18 | abrotman | eh ... |
| 02:15.26 | abrotman | try reading the man page .. it's really quite easy |
| 02:16.23 | martman | No manual entry for make-kpkg |
| 02:16.31 | abrotman | did you install the package yet ? |
| 02:16.33 | nsadmin | you can aptitude install kernel-package, you can check out the make-kpkg man page, and a handy thing you can do is make-kpkg --targets. remember the factoid says make-kpkg can generate an initrd for you, and also says how to invoke fakeroot (or other command that does a similar thing) |
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| 02:17.17 | martman | alright, see what you guys are getting at now |
| 02:17.18 | martman | thanks |
| 02:17.23 | martman | ill install and play with that |
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| 02:18.25 | nsadmin | the overall workflow would be, you adjust the configuration any way you want, then you run make-kpkg |
| 02:18.30 | eintw1ck | Hi im 'trying' to make a repo but im getting a BADSIG error on apt-get update |
| 02:18.52 | nsadmin | look at make-kpkg --targets (and, there are four packages it can make, you might want to check that part out) |
| 02:18.54 | abrotman | eintw1ck: pastebin to show us |
| 02:19.21 | eintw1ck | pastebin doesnt paste exact |
| 02:20.25 | abrotman | what? |
| 02:20.34 | abrotman | let's try anyway |
| 02:20.47 | nsadmin | the fourth is called modules_image, which involved building sources of out-of-tree modules located in /usr/src/modules... I wonder if this is somehow changed since someone wrote module-assistant after Manoj wrote make-kpkg |
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| 02:21.59 | nsadmin | eintw1ck, happen to have a web site of your own? you can make a text file, put it on the site and serve it as text/plain |
| 02:22.03 | abrotman | what? |
| 02:22.21 | eintw1ck | nsadmin: I do |
| 02:22.44 | martman | nsadmin: so something like make-kpkg --append-to-version martman buildpackage |
| 02:22.57 | martman | skipping the rest im guessing |
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| 08:11.52 | md_5 | How may I allow untrusted_set_sender in exim4? |
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| 08:14.46 | nsadmin | md_5, what are untrusted senders? |
| 08:15.07 | md_5 | nsadmin allows apps using sendmail to set the From header |
| 08:15.15 | md_5 | I need to know how to properly define exim macros |
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| 08:17.57 | codygman | The font's in chromium seem to be a little... grainy. I think I need truetype fonts. I've installed the 'ttf-liberation' package, how can I enable them in chromium? |
| 08:19.01 | sary | jelly-home: But am running Wheezy , thus i've asked about backport. |
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| 08:19.41 | sary | tilda just saved the moment. |
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| 08:20.17 | jelly-home | sary: yes, I'm aware you're running wheezy. |
| 08:20.28 | ikla | jelly-home what should I see on average with nfs, ftp, cifs on 1Gig? |
| 08:20.30 | ikla | 80? |
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| 08:20.46 | jelly-home | ikla: depends, anything 80-100 is nice |
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| 08:23.28 | sw2wolf | Except mplayer, are there any light weight software play mms:// stream ? |
| 08:23.52 | ikla | how but in a normal environment :) |
| 08:24.02 | nsadmin | take a look at packages.debian.ofg |
| 08:24.05 | nsadmin | org |
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| 08:24.25 | sw2wolf | VLC is heavy than mplayer |
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| 08:25.30 | nsadmin | if you want to find software available from debian, there are a lot of nonhuman assistants you should check out before asking, packages.debian.org being one of those |
| 08:25.47 | sw2wolf | thanks |
| 08:26.11 | nsadmin | Personally, I'd rather not answer questions that make me want to ask "will there be fries with that" |
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| 08:44.46 | joltcan | ikla: Sometimes you have to change some sysctl parameters to increase buffers etc for top performance of network copies |
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| 08:47.33 | joltcan | ikla: I hade to set these in sysctl.conf to get better copy speed : http://c3116ae80ad58e30.paste.se/ |
| 08:48.28 | joltcan | ikla: and you can try your settings with iperf |
| 08:48.37 | joltcan | To see raw network performance |
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| 08:51.44 | petan | is there a way to make system handle gracefully OOM? |
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| 08:52.15 | petan | for example it kill the proccess that eats all the memory instead of killing some service which is important |
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| 08:54.14 | petan | is here anyone in this channel :D |
| 08:54.41 | joltcan | petan: There is a lot of people here, but if they dont know the answer they'll probably be quiet |
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| 08:55.24 | nsadmin | is not in any channel... just bellowing into a bullhorn heard by Dragon Dictate... |
| 08:56.23 | Leoneof | hello, this method is good? http://www.debianadmin.com/how-to-install-latest-nvidia-drivers-in-debian-6-0-squeeze.html |
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| 08:57.00 | joltcan | petan: The whole OOM stuff is tricky business, so I think you have to do some research and find what you could do about it (i.e. leave some processes out of the OOM), http://linux-mm.org/OOM_Killer |
| 08:57.38 | nsadmin | ok, just debooootstrapped a squeeze i386, now trying to get it to boot |
| 08:57.40 | petan | ok I was wondering if it's possible to specify which kind of processes get killed and which are supposed to be living as long as possible |
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| 08:58.38 | joltcan | petan: the latter part of that article is a good start |
| 08:58.48 | petan | ok |
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| 08:59.08 | joltcan | petan: and you can also tweak the overcommit behaviour, but I'm by no means an expert |
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| 08:59.47 | joltcan | petan: like setting /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory to 2 |
| 09:00.09 | joltcan | petan: but there are a bunch of caviats |
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| 09:06.20 | petan | joltcan actually that algorithm isn't really bad |
| 09:06.40 | petan | but I don't understand, if it consider long running to be less bad |
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| 09:06.48 | petan | why it kill ssh and such proccesses on OOM |
| 09:06.58 | petan | these are usually long time running services |
| 09:07.24 | petan | the biggest problem for me when there is OOM is that networking fail and I am unable to ssh to box to fix it |
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| 09:10.23 | no_gravity | Good Morning! One of my machines shows a very strange behaviour. It runs extremely slow. top shows 99% idle. No swap activity either. I have 2 rendering tasks set up, that normally use 100% of a cpu each. But it seems they get almost no cpu recourses. Any idea how to figure out whats going on on this machine? |
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| 09:11.11 | no_gravity | Oh, now I see when I disconnect my vnc client, top returns to normal numbers. The rendering tasks use 100% of the cpu again. |
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| 09:11.21 | phreaky | is it supposed to have black screet at boot after kernel compilation ? |
| 09:11.53 | no_gravity | phreaky: whom are you talking to? |
| 09:11.59 | phreaky | channel |
| 09:12.13 | no_gravity | So could it be that vnc is bringing this machine to some strange halt? |
| 09:12.21 | no_gravity | Maybe some routing issue? |
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| 09:12.27 | phreaky | talking to me ? |
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| 09:13.50 | no_gravity | Anybody knows how to go about finding out if there is some routing issue between two machines? |
| 09:14.38 | tomcheng76 | no_gravity: what do you mean routing issue? |
| 09:15.04 | petemc | no_gravity: traceroute/mtr ? |
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| 09:15.32 | no_gravity | tomcheng76: my general network connectivity seems to be normal. but when i connect to that machine, it looks like i only get a few bytes per second. |
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| 09:15.56 | no_gravity | petemc: how would you these it to see if network traffic between you and another machine is slow? |
| 09:16.15 | tomcheng76 | no_gravity: traceroute: traceroute <ip> ? |
| 09:17.01 | tomcheng76 | no_gravity: just try endless ping to see if there is any packet loss? |
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| 09:18.04 | no_gravity | tomcheng76: the output of traceroute has 10 lines - each ends with something between 40 and 80ms. How do I interpret that? |
| 09:18.40 | no_gravity | Even ssh to that machine feels very slow. So something must be wrong. |
| 09:19.04 | no_gravity | tomcheng76: so far no packet loss in my endless ping |
| 09:19.23 | no_gravity | tomcheng76: ping output all look something like this: icmp_req=49 ttl=54 time=359 ms |
| 09:19.36 | simonlnu | locally? |
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| 09:19.46 | simonlnu | whoah |
| 09:20.06 | simonlnu | even global that's high latency, unless you're on satellite ;p |
| 09:20.10 | no_gravity | simonlnu: over the world wide wild internet. |
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| 09:20.37 | simonlnu | no_gravity: different continents? over a high latency link? |
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| 09:20.48 | no_gravity | simonlnu: same country, dsl. |
| 09:21.21 | no_gravity | simonlnu: pinging google gives me this: icmp_req=2 ttl=49 time=47.1 ms |
| 09:21.25 | simonlnu | that's high. difenitely something wrong. what's the traceroute like? |
| 09:21.34 | simonlnu | that's more normal |
| 09:21.58 | phreaky | guys runing under debig mode there is an error |
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| 09:22.04 | phreaky | Give root password for maintenance |
| 09:22.10 | phreaky | what should i do further .. |
| 09:22.12 | simonlnu | whowhat? |
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| 09:22.25 | simonlnu | um, enter your root password? :) |
| 09:22.32 | no_gravity | simonlnu: ping to the hosters website also is > 300ms. So some routing issue? |
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| 09:23.12 | no_gravity | if its some routing issue, i will just wait until it goes away. |
| 09:23.19 | simonlnu | no_gravity: well, if you check the internet weather center, you'll see it's been rather iffy - maybe remote host is getting flooded somehow? |
| 09:23.34 | simonlnu | could be routing too yes |
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| 09:23.45 | simonlnu | bad hop along the way |
| 09:23.54 | phreaky | simonlnu: says Give root password for maintenance (or type Control-D to continue) but when i enter the password Login Incorrect |
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| 09:24.10 | simonlnu | so type it in correctly? :) |
| 09:24.12 | no_gravity | simonlnu: traceroute has all hops <80ms so its probably not that? |
| 09:24.18 | phreaky | ah it worked but after startx |
| 09:24.21 | simonlnu | maybe you have capslock on ;p |
| 09:24.22 | no_gravity | simonlnu: where is the internet weather center? |
| 09:24.28 | phreaky | nothuing .. |
| 09:24.29 | phreaky | ;( |
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| 09:25.01 | simonlnu | www.internettrafficreport.com/ |
| 09:25.18 | simonlnu | www.internetweathermap.com/ |
| 09:25.58 | simonlnu | no_gravity: no. hardware maybe |
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| 09:28.40 | no_gravity | simonlnu: all servers of that hoster are slow from here |
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| 09:29.17 | simonlnu | they're having an issue then.. bring it up with them |
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| 09:29.52 | simonlnu | could be an attack, or their link, or some edge router issue, ... |
| 09:30.07 | no_gravity | simonlnu: tried from other machines around the net and i cannot see the delay. so it seems to be related to the route from me to them. |
| 09:30.19 | simonlnu | ok |
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| 09:30.36 | simonlnu | use mtr to spot where |
| 09:30.49 | no_gravity | simonlnu: apt-get install mtr? |
| 09:30.57 | simonlnu | yeh |
| 09:31.44 | no_gravity | simonlnu: "mtr <host>" gives me "(.:3392): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0" |
| 09:32.00 | simonlnu | yeh, you need mtr-tiny for console IIRC |
| 09:32.25 | simonlnu | oh, wait, try the manual, might have a console option |
| 09:32.50 | simonlnu | --curses |
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| 09:33.58 | no_gravity | simonlnu: ok. the slow hop is the last one. that one is probably inside the datacenter of the hoster. |
| 09:34.05 | simonlnu | yeh |
| 09:34.22 | no_gravity | simonlnu: then why dont i see it from other locations. strange. |
| 09:34.38 | simonlnu | or the edge |
| 09:34.50 | no_gravity | simonlnu: edge? |
| 09:35.04 | simonlnu | edge router for the dc |
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| 09:35.37 | no_gravity | simonlnu: the hops before the last one already sound like they are part of the hosters datacenter |
| 09:35.51 | no_gravity | looks like its fast again now |
| 09:36.05 | simonlnu | fixed it probably ;p. |
| 09:36.09 | no_gravity | yeah |
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| 09:36.34 | no_gravity | or it was a temporary high load. nobody cared except for me. and i should just have drinked a tee instead of caring :) |
| 09:36.35 | simonlnu | they got the sms from nagios and ran over ;p |
| 09:36.45 | simonlnu | hehe |
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| 09:37.39 | no_gravity | simonlnu: ok, thanks a lot! have to restart this machine now that im typing on. cu! |
| 09:37.46 | simonlnu | ok, np |
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| 09:54.23 | gour | morning |
| 09:55.20 | gour | i want to run nginx for testing my php sites, but installing mysql/php, install apache2. how to get rid of it and have nginx to run instead? |
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| 10:00.53 | gour | it looks that rm-ing libapache-stuff and having php-fpm will make php happy |
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| 10:06.14 | MoneY_ | Hello. I need to find every JS-File and execute YUI-Compressor on it. I've got: find . *.js -exec yui-compressor {} -o {} --nomunge --preserve-semi \; but i think i have to wrap my execution command. Anyone can help? |
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| 10:07.50 | ChrisH | MoneY_: find . -name \*.js -print0 | xargs -0 COMMANDS I do not like nor use the exec syntax |
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| 10:09.26 | formorer | find . -name '*.js* -print 0 | xargs -n1 -i yui-compressor '{}' -o '{}' --nomunge --preserve-semi |
| 10:09.53 | formorer | and I am not sure if yui-compressor can use the same file for output as for input |
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| 10:12.58 | Richlv | how could i specify specific packages to be build for dpkg-buildpackage ? |
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| 10:14.38 | simonlnu | you mean in a source package? |
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| 10:15.14 | Richlv | well, multiple packages are specified in dsc, then i do dpkg-buildpackage -b |
| 10:15.51 | Richlv | and it builds all of them. but let's say i want to buil one only ? |
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| 10:16.51 | simonlnu | not always possible. depends on the rules file, unless i'm missing something obvious |
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| 10:18.16 | Leoneof | hi, i'm using debian 6 with backports kernel 3.2, how to install nvidia that should be compatible with backports version? |
| 10:19.19 | Richlv | simonlnu, in dsc they are marked as "optional" |
| 10:19.22 | formorer | take the nvidia drivers from backports |
| 10:19.23 | babilen | Leoneof: You can pull in nvidia-kernel-dkms from backports (enable non-free), but make sure to install kernel headers from bpo too. In short: "aptitude -t squeeze-backports -r linux-headers-$ARCH nvidia-kernel-dkms" should do it |
| 10:19.37 | MoneY_ | formorer yours looks great, but it returns an > and nothing else |
| 10:19.46 | Leoneof | ah great, thanks |
| 10:20.04 | formorer | MoneY_: do an echo in front of the yui-compressor |
| 10:20.11 | formorer | and see what it generates |
| 10:20.26 | formorer | MoneY_: ah, and there is a -0 missing in xargs |
| 10:20.30 | MoneY_ | find . -name '*.js* -print 0 | xargs -n1 -i echo yui-compressor '{}' -o '{}' --nomunge --preserve-semi |
| 10:20.40 | MoneY_ | where to add -0 ? |
| 10:20.45 | simonlnu | -print0 no? ;) |
| 10:20.46 | formorer | xargs -0 |
| 10:20.52 | formorer | and -print0 yes |
| 10:20.57 | babilen | Richlv: That is the priority of the packages and doesn't mean that they are optional during the build. You could, for example, edit debian/control and comment other packages, but I reckon that the build process itself won't change much. |
| 10:20.59 | formorer | not my day |
| 10:21.15 | formorer | find . -name '*.js* -print0 | xargs -0 -n1 -i echo yui-compressor '{}' -o '{}' --nomunge --preserve-semi |
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| 10:21.17 | simonlnu | happens to everybody |
| 10:21.20 | MoneY_ | find . -name '*.js* -print0 | xargs -0 -n1 -i echo yui-compressor '{}' -o '{}' --nomunge --preserve-semi still not work :D |
| 10:21.34 | formorer | '*.js* ? |
| 10:21.35 | babilen | Richlv: Take a look at debian/rules as well -- But to be actually able to help you: Which package is this about? What are you trying to do? |
| 10:21.37 | formorer | its '*.js' |
| 10:21.57 | formorer | note the missing ' |
| 10:22.04 | simonlnu | your first one is missing a close single quote :/ |
| 10:22.09 | simonlnu | ah you got it |
| 10:22.18 | Richlv | babilen, i'm playing with http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/z/zabbix/zabbix_2.0.2+dfsg-4.dsc |
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| 10:22.58 | formorer | .oO( lesson to lern: test things you construct from head ) |
| 10:23.01 | simonlnu | good way to get people to pay attention to what they're doing |
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| 10:23.56 | MoneY_ | formorer now its echos me the command of yui-compressor but it's not executing |
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| 10:24.35 | MoneY_ | removed echo and now its seams to work |
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| 10:24.44 | zW | Hi. |
| 10:24.46 | formorer | the echo was for debugging |
| 10:24.58 | Qantourisc | Is it correct a lot of python3 packages aren't in repo yet ? |
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| 10:25.20 | zW | I'm using PXE to install my debian boxes, I now tried building a preseed config to install puppet etc |
| 10:25.43 | zW | All works, but my own repo's are added in apt/sources.list with a "Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify" message |
| 10:26.10 | zW | My question is simple, does this mean that it could not reach them at the time, or does it mean that the gpg key verify failed ? |
| 10:26.15 | simonlnu | verify.. presumably via gpg |
| 10:26.41 | babilen | Qantourisc: Such as? |
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| 10:26.52 | zW | simonlnu: the strange thing is that after the install and apt-get update works without the need have apt-key add a key |
| 10:26.55 | Qantourisc | babilen: in this case python3-cherrypy3 |
| 10:27.01 | simonlnu | you could either make a keyring package and install it first or pre-install the gpg key |
| 10:27.02 | Leoneof | babilen: sudo aptitude install -t squeeze-backports -r linux-headers-$ARCH nvidia-kernel-dkms , right? |
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| 10:27.14 | Qantourisc | babilen: (not so familiar with python packages on debian, so i ask before i manually install it) |
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| 10:27.33 | babilen | Leoneof: Well, you have to replace $ARCH with something sensible -- Are you running amd64 or i386? |
| 10:27.40 | Leoneof | babilen: i386 |
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| 10:28.29 | babilen | Richlv: I don't think that you can actually split that ... The build looks as if you can't split it and the packages are merely a way to distribute files in semantically coherent, well, packages |
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| 10:28.58 | babilen | Leoneof: Ok, may I see the output of "aptitude search '~i~n^linux-image'" on http://paste.debian.net please? |
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| 10:30.35 | Leoneof | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/3d9cb631/ |
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| 10:31.40 | Richlv | babilen, ok, thanks. will just wait longer for the build each time then :) |
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| 10:32.24 | babilen | Leoneof: I would recommend to install a kernel/header metapackage combination that will take care of kernel updates. You would therefore run "aptitude -t squeeze-backports -r install linux-image-686-pae linux-headers-686-pae nvidia-kernel-dkms" |
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| 10:33.09 | babilen | Richlv: I don't think that you can actually *not* build parts of the package. It simply looks as if *we* split whatever is built by upstream as a single unit is split into multiple packages. |
| 10:33.10 | codygman | for those that want to install steam on wheezy or sid: http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1117683-steam-for-linux-beta-now-available/page__st__15 |
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| 10:33.45 | boudiccas | has anybody got 'Cinnamon' [from sid] installed on wheezy please? If so, how did you do it? |
| 10:34.08 | Richlv | babilen, well, for different databases it' built several times |
| 10:34.15 | babilen | Richlv: Splitting this would probably require more work to disentangle the build. We can work on that if it *really* is important for you, but I would prefer not to do that if it merely is an inconvenience -- not even sure if we would succeed |
| 10:34.25 | simonlnu | boudiccas: opened aptitude, pressed + on cinnamon, and pressed g g (fetch and execute) |
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| 10:34.31 | Richlv | babilen, it's a short term inconvenience :) |
| 10:34.39 | simonlnu | then purged it about half hour later |
| 10:34.46 | boudiccas | simonlnu: okay, thanks |
| 10:34.46 | Richlv | i just expected that to be a built-in feature of package building |
| 10:35.03 | ArcAngel | hello, we have a thin-client and after apt-get remove --purge, the packages are removed, but the space is not freed up |
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| 10:35.11 | ArcAngel | anyone have an idea on that |
| 10:35.44 | simonlnu | Richlv: if you're lucking about or working on packaging something, you can use ccache to speed up re-builds |
| 10:35.48 | ArcAngel | i even tried an rm -rf /usr just to see if it makes a difference.. that should free up 300mb |
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| 10:35.52 | simonlnu | Richlv: erm, mucking* |
| 10:35.56 | ArcAngel | but nothing gets freed up |
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| 10:36.24 | lusers | ArcAngel: "sudo aptitude autoclean" ? |
| 10:36.50 | ArcAngel | lusers: hmm, same, no effect |
| 10:36.51 | Richlv | simonlnu, right, i usually do (although not on this system) - but hopefully i'm done this time. have to test the resultign packages still, if they work, cool :) |
| 10:37.11 | simonlnu | :) |
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| 10:37.59 | babilen | ArcAngel: You probably still have the packages around in the download cache ( /var/cache/apt/archives/ ) -- They can be removed with "apt-get autoclean" or "apt-get clean" (the latter removes *all* packages even currently installed ones (from the cache!))_ |
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| 10:38.04 | lusers | ArcAngel: Install deborphan. Check for orphaned packages. Those poor babies. |
| 10:38.15 | simonlnu | heh |
| 10:38.27 | ArcAngel | babilen: hmm, no checked just now |
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| 10:39.25 | simonlnu | file being held open |
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| 10:42.56 | ArcAngel | fucking thin client |
| 10:43.10 | ArcAngel | if i remove files... i actually am left with less space |
| 10:43.14 | ArcAngel | then before |
| 10:43.20 | ArcAngel | like it doesn't really delete them |
| 10:43.26 | ArcAngel | but shadow copies them somewhere |
| 10:43.31 | lusers | Nautilus? |
| 10:43.40 | ArcAngel | cli |
| 10:44.00 | lusers | ArcAngel: You could try CCleaner. |
| 10:44.06 | lusers | "sudo aptitude install bleachbit" |
| 10:44.50 | ArcAngel | E: Couldn't find package bleachbit |
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| 10:45.23 | simonlnu | funkay |
| 10:45.38 | simonlnu | may not be in squeeze |
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| 10:45.51 | ArcAngel | it's lenny even |
| 10:45.52 | lusers | ,versions bleachbit |
| 10:45.53 | judd | Package: bleachbit on i386 -- squeeze: 0.8.0-1; sid: 0.9.2-2; wheezy: 0.9.2-2; experimental: 0.9.3-1 |
| 10:45.57 | simonlnu | ,info bleachbit --release squeeze |
| 10:45.57 | judd | Package bleachbit (admin, optional) in squeeze/i386: delete unnecessary files from the system. Version: 0.8.0-1; Size: 236.1k; Installed: 1564k; Homepage: http://bleachbit.sourceforge.net; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/bleachbit |
| 10:46.04 | simonlnu | oh yeh, nm |
| 10:46.13 | simonlnu | lusers: heh |
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| 10:46.30 | simonlnu | hmm |
| 10:47.42 | boudiccas | ,v cinnamon |
| 10:47.43 | judd | Package: cinnamon on i386 -- sid: 1.6.2-1 |
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| 10:50.00 | babilen | ArcAngel: You are running lenny? |
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| 10:52.42 | ArcAngel | babilen: yes |
| 10:53.09 | babilen | dpkg: tell ArcAngel -about lenny |
| 10:53.46 | babilen | ArcAngel: Lenny has not been supported for a while now and it is about time to upgrade to squeeze. |
| 10:54.10 | ArcAngel | yes, i know, but this is a hp thinpro client |
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| 10:55.10 | ArcAngel | i thought it was worth a shot, maybe someone knew |
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| 10:55.51 | babilen | ArcAngel: Why does that hardware necessitate you to run an outdates, unsupported and vulnerable release? |
| 10:55.58 | babilen | *outdated |
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| 10:56.32 | ArcAngel | though the question is valid, it is completly unrelated to my problem |
| 10:56.34 | ArcAngel | O=) |
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| 10:57.12 | lusers | No hard drive? |
| 10:57.29 | ArcAngel | 512 flash drive |
| 10:57.32 | ArcAngel | mb |
| 10:57.40 | lusers | Can you use USB stick? |
| 10:57.44 | ArcAngel | yes |
| 10:58.04 | lusers | Install it on USB? Load it from USB? :) |
| 10:58.13 | ArcAngel | then we need 30 usb sticks |
| 10:58.22 | ArcAngel | =P |
| 10:59.09 | lusers | What did you install after you installed lenny? |
| 10:59.29 | ArcAngel | nothing.. i removed java after |
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| 10:59.34 | ArcAngel | which is 100+ mb |
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| 10:59.56 | ArcAngel | free space before.. 121 mb.. free space after.. 117 mb |
| 11:00.00 | ArcAngel | very logical |
| 11:00.05 | ArcAngel | =P |
| 11:00.17 | babilen | ArcAngel: Before what? |
| 11:00.36 | ArcAngel | before the remove --purge |
| 11:00.37 | lusers | I never used lenny but I had to ask if lenny came with java pre-installed? |
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| 11:01.08 | ArcAngel | it's hp thinpro crap |
| 11:01.30 | babilen | ArcAngel: I answered that question already -- Did you remove packages from the package cache? How much space was freed by that? Could you paste the output of your first "apt-get autoclean" run to http://paste.debian.net along with "df -h" before and after please? |
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| 11:01.51 | babilen | ArcAngel: Once again: What does that hardware have to do with anything? |
| 11:02.28 | ArcAngel | babilen: yes, i did apt-get remove --purge, also checked the apt cache |
| 11:02.37 | babilen | and? |
| 11:02.42 | ArcAngel | there was nothing there |
| 11:03.25 | ArcAngel | welli suspect it does not actually sync the disk |
| 11:03.26 | babilen | ArcAngel: May I see that? (previous commands + "ls -l /var/cache/apt/archives/" → http://paste.debian.net ) |
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| 11:03.47 | ArcAngel | i don't have browser here |
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| 11:04.07 | ArcAngel | but since when you remove stuff.. you get less disk space free |
| 11:04.08 | babilen | !tell ArcAngel about nopaste |
| 11:04.20 | ArcAngel | i know all the rules babilen |
| 11:04.21 | babilen | *sigh* |
| 11:04.23 | lusers | ArcAngel: If you said 30 clients, you might want to look up LTSP. |
| 11:04.28 | ArcAngel | but since when you remove stuff.. you get less disk space free |
| 11:04.34 | ArcAngel | i suspect it keeps some shadow copy |
| 11:04.39 | ArcAngel | or something |
| 11:04.42 | babilen | ArcAngel: What does the "nopaste" factoid have to do with rules? Did you read it? |
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| 11:05.54 | babilen | ArcAngel: You can use "script" ("man 1 script") to create a transcript of your session that you can then paste with nopaste. It is just that I would actually like to *see* what you are talking about in order to be able to provide good support. |
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| 11:07.33 | babilen | ArcAngel: Can't you ssh into the box if you don't want to use nopaste? (from a system *with* a browser) |
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| 11:13.59 | Ep5iloN_ | Hi, does someone has expirience with Debian hung in a way that no picture via VGA and no lines in log files what happened? 6.0.5 with kernel 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae, thanks in advance |
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| 11:21.28 | ChrisH | Ep5iloN_: generic hang questions, does it still ping? does it react to keyboard interactions like NumLock, CapsLock? |
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| 11:22.14 | Ep5iloN_ | ChrisH: no ping, no keyboard, no picture - only leds blinking on SAS drives |
| 11:23.01 | ChrisH | sounds like a hardhang, magic sys req might be an option. If it does not happen often I would simply reset the box. |
| 11:23.34 | Ep5iloN_ | What do you mena under "magic sys req" |
| 11:24.10 | Ep5iloN_ | It is not a kernel fail, or segfault ot whatever. Just in time X everything hungs. No logs moving, nothing. Only reboot is an option. |
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| 11:24.16 | petn-randall | Ep5iloN_: ctrl + alt + sysrq key |
| 11:24.44 | ChrisH | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key |
| 11:24.49 | Ep5iloN_ | During POST and boot (dmesg) everything is nice, comes up and works without any problem. |
| 11:25.07 | ChrisH | Ep5iloN_: how can you reboot if no keyboard interactiion is possible and the box does not ping? |
| 11:25.25 | Ep5iloN_ | ChrisH: power button :) |
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| 11:25.32 | Ep5iloN_ | petn-randall: thanks |
| 11:25.47 | Ep5iloN_ | petn-randall: ok.. I will try this next time. |
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| 11:26.31 | Ep5iloN_ | any other ideas what to try or to do? It's HP ProLiant server, so I am going to do the hardware diagnostics |
| 11:26.35 | ChrisH | Ep5iloN_: do you see reactions on pressing the powerbutton? logfiles showing a shutdown? |
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| 11:27.26 | Ep5iloN_ | ChrisH: no, after the hung, first events in log file are about boot process |
| 11:27.27 | ChrisH | Ep5iloN_: A HP Server should have a LOM which can be asked on HW Logs. I am not deep into HP Servers but I am pretty sure you will find similar stuff there |
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| 11:27.50 | vaequel | Hello guys. |
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| 11:28.20 | Ep5iloN_ | ChrisH: yeah, you mena iLo. |
| 11:28.22 | Guest36379 | I would like to ask about online IDE. Is anyone who knows online editor for LaTeX? |
| 11:28.44 | Ep5iloN_ | ChrisH: that's another good way to go |
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| 11:31.35 | Ep5iloN_ | ChrisH: petn-randall thanks for ideas! |
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| 11:39.47 | albink | d |
| 11:40.01 | albink | hey can u help me, those ubuntu guys are ignoring me |
| 11:40.24 | albink | i have an issue with logger. rsyslog doen't log to auth.log after sys upgrade |
| 11:40.39 | albink | rsyslog runs under syslog user |
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| 11:40.55 | albink | and auth.log is under root.adm 0460 permissions |
| 11:41.10 | albink | so strace gives a permission denied |
| 11:42.03 | ChrisH | albink: Then fix the permissions on your non-debian system |
| 11:42.12 | albink | y tnx |
| 11:42.14 | albink | really |
| 11:42.27 | albink | is rsyslog meant to run under syslog user? |
| 11:42.43 | albink | is it ok to put syslog user in adm group and put 0660 perms on log files? |
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| 11:43.17 | ChrisH | albink: I do not know how Ubuntu starts their sysllog, but why not chown syslog:adm auth.log ? |
| 11:43.18 | gnarface | albink: no, i think adm is intended to be read-only |
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| 11:43.37 | ChrisH | albink: and chmod 640 auth.log |
| 11:43.40 | gnarface | albink: use 0640 |
| 11:43.55 | albink | it's alread 0640 |
| 11:44.20 | albink | but in that case is hould sw ownership of many log files to syslog |
| 11:44.23 | albink | weird |
| 11:44.25 | ChrisH | On my debian systems syslog runs as root. |
| 11:44.26 | albink | i don't like it |
| 11:44.32 | albink | that's better |
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| 11:45.06 | gnarface | if you don't want to run it as root i would recommend giving it its own user |
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| 11:45.10 | albink | tnx guys |
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| 11:45.20 | nsadmin | I just installed another squeeze, and it wants to try mounting proc on /root/proc, and dev on /root/dev |
| 11:45.30 | nsadmin | and sys on /root/sys |
| 11:45.42 | nsadmin | what's going on? I checked fstab, no mention of those |
| 11:45.59 | ChrisH | nsadmin: you dont have / mounted on /root ? |
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| 11:47.28 | nsadmin | no, I don't think so... this is a new install... it was having trouble mounting / but that problem was I misspelled the device |
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| 11:48.41 | ChrisH | nsadmin: can you pastebin fstab df -h for us? |
| 11:48.45 | nsadmin | also I couldn't find a good place for it to install grub, especially since I want to have just one grub, and not one installed by the new squeeze |
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| 11:49.28 | nsadmin | I could get the fstab... not sure about df as I can't get out of (initramfs) |
| 11:50.24 | nsadmin | yes, I know, ctrl-d or c, butthen it complains that there are no mount points /root/sys, /root/proc, /root/dev when trying to mount those |
| 11:50.46 | nsadmin | and drops me back into the initrd shell |
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| 11:51.51 | nsadmin | let me see about grabbing the fstab |
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| 11:56.00 | nsadmin | http://paste.debian.net/211217/ |
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| 11:57.14 | ChrisH | nsadmin: why is / not in LVM? |
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| 11:58.38 | nsadmin | it is in lvm... |
| 11:58.56 | ChrisH | UUID=3f10fc2f-e0f2-444b-a828-e4dc3c0d3c01 / ext3 errors=remount-ro 0 1 |
| 11:59.06 | ChrisH | does not look like LVM to me |
| 11:59.09 | nsadmin | ohh, wrong fstab :) |
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| 11:59.54 | nsadmin | http://paste.debian.net/211219/ |
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| 12:02.47 | fevermind | hi all, somebody know how to use pcmcia wlan cards in debian? |
| 12:03.27 | nsadmin | how did you get a pcmcia slot? is it old? |
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| 12:03.50 | fevermind | nsadmin: i think so ;) yes |
| 12:04.11 | nsadmin | which cpu? |
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| 12:04.40 | fevermind | nsadmin: hmmm, its a 10mbit pcmcia card from zyxel zyair B-120 |
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| 12:05.31 | nsadmin | dpkg, you're minutes too late! |
| 12:05.31 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, nsadmin |
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| 12:07.22 | nsadmin | well I guess you need card services and all that stuff... |
| 12:07.33 | nsadmin | and the driver for the card |
| 12:08.02 | fevermind | i use squeeze, hmmm, ive googled it how to install it, but i havent found how to install card services |
| 12:08.19 | ChrisH | nsadmin: fstab looks pretty OK. Can you recreate the initrd |
| 12:08.38 | ChrisH | fevermind: do you see any reaction on dmesg on inserting the card? |
| 12:08.43 | nsadmin | ChrisH, I've never actually booted into it |
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| 12:09.54 | nsadmin | is there a way I could mount its partitions? |
| 12:10.43 | ChrisH | nsadmin: grep sysfs /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh seems to mount the /sys check that |
| 12:11.02 | nsadmin | ok |
| 12:11.29 | fevermind | ChrisH: just that i inserted the card and that its registered |
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| 12:13.31 | ChrisH | fevermind: with pcmciautils installed you should have all you need from Kernelside. |
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| 12:14.36 | nsadmin | one thing, remember I didn't run "install grub" since I didn't have a partition that seemed ok |
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| 12:15.10 | fevermind | ChrisH: ive installed that... how to go further? how can i ls pcmcia, etc? |
| 12:15.41 | nsadmin | if grep -E -qs "sysfs\$" /proc/filesystems |
| 12:15.41 | nsadmin | domount sysfs "" /sys sysfs -onodev,noexec,nosuid |
| 12:15.44 | ChrisH | dpkg -L pcmciautils will show you /sbin/lspcmcia |
| 12:15.45 | dpkg | No packages found matching pcmciautils will show you /sbin/lspcmcia |
| 12:16.10 | ChrisH | fevermind: dpkg -L pcmciautils will show you /sbin/lspcmcia |
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| 12:18.09 | censor | hi all |
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| 12:18.42 | fevermind | ChrisH: great, ok, thanX |
| 12:18.43 | nsadmin | hi |
| 12:19.54 | censor | i have a box with 2 NICs in two separate subnets, on a vast company network with loads of subnets and rather decent routing, and i need that box to be reachable on each NIC - but using 2 default gateways is probably not an option, right? |
| 12:20.23 | censor | setting the gateways on both interfaces as default and giving them a different metric doesn't help much, unfortunately |
| 12:20.24 | ChrisH | censor: ACK. normally its not an option |
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| 12:21.14 | censor | but i can't set up static routes to all possible subnets, so what could i do? |
| 12:21.38 | censor | may a routing daemon like quagga be a solution? |
| 12:22.01 | ChrisH | censor: I cannot tell you your routing. |
| 12:22.31 | censor | okay, but what would be possible solutions to this |
| 12:22.48 | ChrisH | censor: You need to know what needs to be routed where and from my experience any kind of routing deamon is not an improvement. |
| 12:23.46 | ChrisH | censor: normalyy only a few subnets are reachable via one NIC and anything else is the other one. This information needs to be provided from your Network admin. |
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| 12:25.36 | nsadmin | do you mean there are multiple subnets on the same wire? |
| 12:26.47 | ChrisH | nsadmin: He did not tell us anything about the subnets |
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| 12:27.24 | nsadmin | btw, careful around what you're doing here... it may be possible to establish access which was not intended by the company... |
| 12:27.36 | Argafal | One more PIC question. Maybe someone has an idea. I'm fighting with very basics of connecting a switch to RA1. I put the switch between RA1 and GND, and a resistor 18k between +5V and RA1. Shouldn't that be what I need to do? Switch has no effect whatsoever. |
| 12:27.45 | Argafal | My apologizes, not the right channel. |
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| 12:28.11 | nsadmin | try the left channel, usually sounds better |
| 12:28.58 | Argafal | nsadmin: no, the right one is about 24 channels further to the right ;) |
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| 12:37.50 | censor | nsadmin: no, each NIC is on its own subnet, but they need to be reachable from all subnets on the corp network - which is dozens, if not hundreds |
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| 12:38.43 | censor | nsadmin: no worries, they are supposed to be accessible from everywhere - the separate interfaces are only to monitor the incoming/outgoing traffic |
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| 12:39.03 | rkrishna | Hi All, I need some help with improving kernel performance. One of the device on PCIe slot has constant buffer overflows. |
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| 12:39.37 | censor | nsadmin: and i don't mean inbound/outbound, but rather incoming/outgoing by "purpose" |
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| 12:40.55 | epsilon | censor: how do you get the routing information? |
| 12:41.15 | nsadmin | how can you determine purpose? it's bad enough for humans to determine their own purpose~ |
| 12:41.28 | censor | epsilon: sorry, what do you mean? |
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| 12:41.58 | hyper_ch | hi there, I thought debian does a raid scrub every month or something and I wonder where I can find out more about it |
| 12:42.01 | nsadmin | if treffid is spposed to get everywhere, then you shouldnh't need anything specis |
| 12:42.06 | nsadmin | special |
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| 12:42.15 | censor | nsadmin: well, that's easy - it's a streaming server, and one NIC is for incoming streams (by servers), the other for outgoing streams (by clients) |
| 12:42.23 | ChrisH | hyper_ch: its triggerd from a crontab entry |
| 12:42.46 | epsilon | censor: do you have gateway address to each subnet, or does the NIC have IP for each subnet? |
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| 12:42.55 | hyper_ch | ChrisH: if it finds errors/bad blocks, would it send email to the admin? I setup email notification for degraded arrays |
| 12:43.18 | censor | epsilon: i have gateways for both NICs, and each NIC has an IP on the respective subnet it's on |
| 12:43.28 | epsilon | so you have many output in "route -n", or "ip a" would show many IP per interface |
| 12:43.54 | ChrisH | censor: You need to ask your companies network admin to get the correct routing because this all depends massive on the routing infrastructure behind the ethernetport! |
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| 12:44.03 | epsilon | gateway to each subnet or "default gateway to internet"? |
| 12:44.05 | ChrisH | hyper_ch: yes it will send a mail |
| 12:44.13 | nsadmin | censor, that's starting to sound like multihoming |
| 12:44.33 | hyper_ch | ChrisH: ok, I found the cron in /etc/cron.d/mdadm :) every 14th of the month at 01:45 |
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| 12:45.09 | censor | epsilon: they're basically default gateways, but internet doesn't matter - let's just say they're real gateways that can route to everywhere |
| 12:45.16 | petn-randall | hyper_ch: I think it will run a repair by cron |
| 12:45.19 | censor | nsadmin: it absolutely is! |
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| 12:45.38 | epsilon | censor: do you get it from DHCP? |
| 12:45.43 | hyper_ch | still, I had a raid1 fail the other day.. one disk failed and the other one had bad blocks |
| 12:45.44 | censor | epsilon: nope, static config |
| 12:45.55 | bux | hi, is there anyone familiar with the intel fortran compiler unfer debian 32bits |
| 12:45.59 | hyper_ch | so I wonder if scrubbing even run or would notifiy |
| 12:46.02 | epsilon | censor: then just delete one of the default gw |
| 12:46.04 | petn-randall | hyper_ch: If it finds a unreadable block, it will just overwrite it with it's copy. The HDD will then mark the unreadable sector as offline. |
| 12:46.15 | epsilon | route del default gw eth... |
| 12:46.21 | petn-randall | hyper_ch: If you want to know about bad blocks, you should set up smartd. |
| 12:46.27 | ChrisH | hyper_ch: I added a dd read for each Raid mirror disk to force the DiskHW to access each and every block once a week |
| 12:46.28 | censor | epsilon: then the IP of that NIC isn't reachable from anywhere, except the subnet it's in |
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| 12:46.37 | censor | epsilon: i do know a bit of routing ;) |
| 12:47.06 | epsilon | eh, you only delete route going out to 0.0.0.0, why should it disturb incoming traffic? |
| 12:47.17 | blackshirt | hello, i have a problem with lxc, someone please help me ? |
| 12:47.24 | hyper_ch | petn-randall: ChrisH: smart isn't so smart either ;) hmmmm, I think I should do that dd read also.... used ddrescue to copy back the partition with bad blocks..... |
| 12:47.38 | censor | epsilon: because then the box wouldn't know how to reply back to that IP on the interface |
| 12:48.00 | epsilon | eh? |
| 12:48.05 | censor | or rather, where to route the reply back to the orginal source |
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| 12:48.20 | censor | unless i do forwarding on the other interface |
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| 12:48.32 | epsilon | ... dont get it |
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| 12:48.44 | censor | but then that traffic would be accounted to the traffic on the interface with the defaul gw |
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| 12:48.57 | epsilon | we are talking about communication with a box in internet, right? |
| 12:49.00 | petn-randall | hyper_ch: A long selftest should do exactly the same, the only difference is that the HDD will log it. |
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| 12:49.07 | ChrisH | censor: last time from my side: YOu need to discuss this with the network admins of your company first. They will tell you the correct routing setup or fix some stuff on their systems. |
| 12:49.18 | x42 | hi there i need support on routing traffic from a pptp ppp0 tunnel to my eth0 interface on a root server |
| 12:49.35 | hyper_ch | petn-randall: thx for the help |
| 12:49.51 | censor | ChrisH: thanks for that advice, but our admins know less about routing than me |
| 12:49.54 | petn-randall | x42: You maybe want to do port forwarding then. |
| 12:50.07 | petn-randall | hyper_ch: no prob, any time again :) |
| 12:50.12 | censor | ChrisH: and besides that, it's not a routing problem on their end |
| 12:50.19 | x42 | root@braegelmann /var/log # cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 12:50.21 | x42 | 1 |
| 12:50.27 | blackshirt | hello |
| 12:50.32 | blackshirt | hello, i have a problem with lxc, someone please help me ? |
| 12:50.35 | x42 | i can see traffic on ppp0 |
| 12:50.38 | x42 | but none on ethß |
| 12:50.42 | x42 | eth0 |
| 12:50.55 | censor | epsilon: no, it's a server on a corporate network with countless subnets |
| 12:51.00 | blackshirt | i'm stuck with no shell, with messages : INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel |
| 12:51.03 | petn-randall | x42: You only allowed forwarding, you didn't set up port forwarding. |
| 12:51.19 | epsilon | x42: just routing between networks or NAT? |
| 12:51.22 | x42 | do i need a route or iptables? |
| 12:51.44 | x42 | nat i fear |
| 12:51.52 | censor | epsilon: and as long as i don't do any internal routing between the interfaces on the box itself, each NIC has to take care of its own routing through the gateway on the subnet that interface is on |
| 12:52.08 | x42 | i want to give a friend of mine in china access to the internet |
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| 12:52.15 | ChrisH | censor: it is a routing problem on the company network. from my POV |
| 12:52.17 | Walex2 | blackshirt: some process has been creating too many processes. At that point only 'root' can create new processes, if possible. |
| 12:52.36 | epsilon | censor: what's actually is the problem? I thought you have 2 default gateways to the internet on that box and need to delete one to avoid conflict? |
| 12:52.38 | petn-randall | x42: Do you know which service you want to forward yet? Do you want to route it to another public IP address or a local network? |
| 12:52.41 | niels1 | epsilon, he's probably just confusing "gateway" with "default gateway(route)". doesn't sound like he needs a default route at all, but just a simple gateway for his routes |
| 12:52.41 | censor | epsilon: so if one interface doesn't have a gateway, it can't send any traffic to a subnet that outside of its own subnet |
| 12:52.42 | blackshirt | Walex2: can you help me please |
| 12:52.50 | Walex2 | x42: give your friend an SSH login, and they can use the '-D' option to create a SOCKs proxy. |
| 12:53.02 | blackshirt | Walex2: i run this container with sudo access |
| 12:53.30 | censor | ChrisH: how can that be, if the routing works fine if i remove the gateway on the interfaces, using only one gateway the respective IP is pingable, |
| 12:53.44 | x42 | good ideal walex2 |
| 12:53.45 | Walex2 | blackshirt: but what do you want? figure out why, or what to do with it? Because what to do with it is usually just "reboot". |
| 12:53.56 | x42 | but i fear he is not used to use ssh |
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| 12:54.26 | epsilon | censor: can you post your "route -n" and "ip a" so I actaully understand your problem? |
| 12:54.35 | x42 | petn-randall i want to tunnel the whole traffic of a laptot througg a vpn tunnel to my server |
| 12:54.53 | blackshirt | Walex2: this my linux container process start, stuck at the last line, http://paste.debian.net/211124 |
| 12:54.55 | x42 | so that the laptop can access internet |
| 12:54.59 | petn-randall | x42: then your want to set up maserading |
| 12:55.00 | censor | epsilon: http://pastebin.com/BJhyWG3d |
| 12:55.08 | Walex2 | x42: using SSH with tunneling is very easy. If he has window it is just a simple PuTTY profile. |
| 12:55.39 | Walex2 | x42: if you want to tunnel *everything* you can install a PPTP daemon on your server. |
| 12:55.42 | x42 | i think about it walex2 |
| 12:55.50 | x42 | i have install pptpd |
| 12:55.58 | x42 | vpn channel is up and working |
| 12:56.09 | x42 | but the device cannot access internet |
| 12:56.13 | x42 | i see traffic on ppp0 |
| 12:56.17 | x42 | but not on ethß |
| 12:56.22 | censor | epsilon: ChrisH this is not about "oh, i can't get to all subnets from my box", but about "oh, i can't get to both IPs of that box from outside of the subnets that its interfaces are in" |
| 12:56.23 | x42 | i see outgoing traffic on ppp0 |
| 12:56.33 | x42 | root@braegelmann /var/log # tcpdump -i ppp0 host 8.8.8.8 |
| 12:56.35 | x42 | tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode |
| 12:56.37 | x42 | listening on ppp0, link-type LINUX_SLL (Linux cooked), capture size 65535 bytes |
| 12:56.39 | epsilon | censor: I see no conflict there, the packtes will hit the first match - you dont even need metric |
| 12:56.40 | x42 | 13:48:25.507454 IP 192.168.2.234.13718 > google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain: 12724+ A? www.google.com. (32) |
| 12:56.42 | x42 | 13:48:27.398456 IP 192.168.2.234.27987 > google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain: 14571+ A? www.google.com. (32) |
| 12:56.43 | x42 | 13:48:29.074466 IP 192.168.2.234.46075 > google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain: 24263+ A? go.urbanairship.com. (37) |
| 12:56.45 | x42 | 13:48:30.494465 IP 192.168.2.234.12985 > google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain: 12724+ A? www.google.com. (32) |
| 12:56.48 | x42 | 13:48:32.398458 IP 192.168.2.234.27924 > google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain: 14571+ A? www.google.com. (32) |
| 12:56.49 | x42 | ^C |
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| 12:57.11 | petn-randall | x42: use pastebin! |
| 12:57.14 | x42 | do i need masqerading even though i installed pptpd petn-randall? |
| 12:57.17 | x42 | ok sorry |
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| 12:57.20 | censor | epsilon: correct, there's no conflict - it just doesn't work |
| 12:57.42 | censor | epsilon: if i remove one default gw, i can ping the interface that still has a default gw |
| 12:58.00 | franco00 | good day good sirs. I am trying to donate vis SPI, but it doesn't worok (credit card). Do you know if there's a problem with the service? (or whom I should contact to report the problem / another simple way of donating?) |
| 12:58.09 | petn-randall | x42: Look up your relevant bits here: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/ |
| 12:58.14 | Walex2 | blackshirt: so the problem is that you booted a system without being root. That just won't work. |
| 12:58.23 | x42 | thx petn-randall |
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| 12:58.39 | niels1 | epsilon, if you ask me, he's probably using the "gateway" keyword in /e/n/i, but he shouldn't. and that's likely where his confusion comes from. the "gateway" keyword is not for a plain gateway for a route, but for setting up a default gateway/route |
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| 12:58.52 | epsilon | censor: oh you mean ppl from outside cant reach you? *headscratch* |
| 12:59.00 | censor | censor: there's no outside |
| 12:59.02 | blackshirt | Walex2: i start it with root user |
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| 12:59.18 | censor | epsilon: but let's see the corporate network as "the outside" |
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| 12:59.46 | censor | seriously, you guys need to lay of that thought that everythin's related to the internet ;-) |
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| 13:00.14 | epsilon | well for me gateway = router between subnets (129...), default gw = router to internet (0.0.0.0) |
| 13:00.25 | censor | niels1: gateway, router - where's the difference? ;-) |
| 13:00.37 | niels1 | epsilon, right. and he doesn't need a default gateway |
| 13:00.50 | censor | epsilon: 0.0.0.0 is not the internet! it's "any" |
| 13:01.14 | censor | niels1: of course i do, because i need to get to 0.0.0.0 - or rather, "any subnet on the corporate network" |
| 13:01.17 | epsilon | "common sense" |
| 13:01.36 | epsilon | ahhh, I understand now |
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| 13:01.41 | Walex2 | blackshirt: that's not what your log says... |
| 13:01.47 | blackshirt | Walex2: any suggestion ? |
| 13:01.50 | epsilon | you abuse default gw to reach all 129* |
| 13:01.58 | censor | niels1: there's more than just those two subnets that the interfaces are on, there are countless others, so just like "the internet" |
| 13:02.00 | Walex2 | blackshirt: line 4 says "hostname: you must be root to change the host name" |
| 13:02.50 | censor | epsilon: well, if i need to get to "0.0.0.0" (there's more than just 129.*) |
| 13:02.55 | epsilon | do your company use any dynamic routing? Then you could use quagga |
| 13:03.10 | niels1 | censor, well, if those subnets are not all reachable through both gateways, you have to set up the routing with those subnets, not with 0.0.0.0 |
| 13:03.36 | epsilon | you need to add all subnets on each interface, no other chance |
| 13:03.39 | censor | niels1: they are all reachable through those gateways |
| 13:03.41 | Walex2 | blackshirt: well, you were 'root' when you issued 'lxc-start', but it looks like that 'lxc-start' needs an explicit indication to run the command as 'root'. |
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| 13:03.52 | blackshirt | Walex2: i read this http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=5017ECB2.9030507%40rktmb.org&forum_name=lxc-users |
| 13:03.57 | censor | epsilon: no, that's exactly the same as setting the gefault gw then |
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| 13:04.26 | blackshirt | Walex2: so, what should i do ? |
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| 13:04.28 | censor | again, those two gateways do route to "0.0.0.0" |
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| 13:04.41 | censor | and they work fine if i only use one of the, |
| 13:04.43 | censor | *them |
| 13:04.47 | epsilon | well you can add subnets on one NIC it's belonging to, and all others as default gw on other nic - but it's nasty. very. |
| 13:05.15 | censor | epsilon: i can't, because that number of subnets could be considered inifite |
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| 13:05.35 | epsilon | censor: well, that's where dynamic routing protocols starts |
| 13:05.52 | Walex2 | blackshirt: what do you want to achieve? having a partition/container running an instance of Debian as if in a VM? |
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| 13:06.25 | censor | epsilon: i know, but the issue is that i can't route through that box itself - all traffic has to be replied to on the interface that it came in |
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| 13:07.07 | blackshirt | Walex2: i try to create linux container with debian as template |
| 13:07.35 | epsilon | censor: well that's the job of the routing table, no other way |
| 13:07.36 | censor | epsilon: if there was a request to the IP of NIC1, the reply has to come from that interface |
| 13:07.48 | Walex2 | blackshirt: I'll have a look. wait... |
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| 13:08.17 | blackshirt | Walex2: okey, thank you guys, for your time .. you were greats man |
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| 13:08.23 | censor | epsilon: having only one gateway and doing routing would mean that all replies would be sent through the interface that has the gateway |
| 13:08.38 | phalaaxx | censor, you're wrong about that |
| 13:08.56 | censor | phalaaxx: enlighten me =) |
| 13:09.09 | x42 | i tried to enable ip-routing by this command: http://pastebin.com/Y7Kvp0BL but i still don't see traffic on eth0 |
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| 13:09.40 | censor | phalaaxx: well, i have to add: if that reply is being sent to an IP that's outside of the subnet of the IP of the NIC where it came from, if that NIC doesn't have the gateway |
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| 13:10.36 | censor | let's say NIC1 has the gateway, and there's a request to NIC2 from outside the subnet of NIC2, the box would have to use the default gateway, and that's on NIC1 - so the reply is being routed through NIC1 |
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| 13:11.12 | phalaaxx | censor, you need routing table as epsilon said |
| 13:11.32 | censor | phalaaxx: but i can't add routes for all possible subnets |
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| 13:11.59 | phalaaxx | censor, how about dynamic routing protocols? |
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| 13:13.35 | Walex2 | blackshirt: strange, the docs seem to imply that the containers should run as 'root;'. |
| 13:13.36 | censor | yes, i asked about e.g. using Quagga at the very beginning... |
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| 13:13.58 | epsilon | censor: if your company had at least OSPF, quagga could help :-/ |
| 13:14.15 | blackshirt | Walex2: i would try to recreate the new one |
| 13:14.22 | censor | phalaaxx: i think we're using iBGP |
| 13:14.48 | censor | not sure about OSPF |
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| 13:15.31 | censor | but still, if using OSPF, wouldn't that allow for traffic going out "the other" interface, if deemed shorter by the routing daemon? |
| 13:15.39 | epsilon | oh, then use it. quagga should be able to handle bgp |
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| 13:16.24 | epsilon | well it will take the path with lowest cost |
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| 13:16.55 | censor | and that's the problem - i need to use the incoming route |
| 13:16.58 | epsilon | but it wont take the nic if the subnet is not reachable over it |
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| 13:18.19 | censor | the subnets will all be reachable over both NICs |
| 13:18.43 | censor | the router is the same on both subnets... |
| 13:18.50 | censor | just different IPs |
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| 13:20.18 | censor | basically what i would need is two completely separate boxes - but that's not possible, as they have to use a shared ressource |
| 13:20.50 | censor | but both interfaces need to act completely separate, or at least their routing |
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| 13:21.47 | censor | something like per-interface routing tables |
| 13:21.54 | Walex2 | blackshirt: I have to go to lunch, and I was trying to reproduce your issue but that is taking too much (on my Debian 6/Squeeze systems). |
| 13:22.26 | blackshirt | Walex2: okey, and thank you so much for your time guys .. |
| 13:24.21 | censor | just found "policy routing" - that looks like it could do the job |
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| 13:28.51 | dpkg | Na kanale #debian rozmawiamy po angielsku; jesli chcesz lub wolisz mowic po polsku, wejdz na kanal #debian-pl na irc.freenode.net (Polish speakers please go to #debian-pl on irc.freenode.net). pl is also <perl>. |
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| 13:52.10 | censor | epsilon: ChrisH: niels1: phalaaxx: quick FYI, "Policy Based Routing" is working perfectly fine and doing exactly what i wanted |
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| 13:55.47 | censor | phalaaxx: no worries, the problem was a bit obscure ;) |
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| 13:56.20 | censor | but the discussion helped me figure out define my actual problem and use better terms for what i need =) |
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| 13:58.14 | bluesm | abrotman: Thanks :) |
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| 14:02.43 | chilemediera | hey anyone has some info about debian 6.0 64bits - skype? |
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| 14:06.58 | niels1 | censor, i'm interested in how policy routing solved your problem. what criterion(s) are you matching on in the rules? |
| 14:07.29 | TheMinimalist | Can anyone give me some information regarding the Social API in Iceweasel 17? I can't tell quite how it works if I don't have a Facebook account, or what exactly it does. |
| 14:08.20 | Walex2 | blackshirt: I actually got lunch at my desk and tested 'lxc' with Debian 6/Squeeze on a Debian 6/Squeeze system and with the aid of a couple of backports it all worked. |
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| 14:09.43 | Walex2 | blackshirt: what worked for me was: backported 3.2.0 'linux-image', backported 0.8.0 'lxc', and modifying a few lines in the 'debian' template which was setup for Lenny. |
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| 14:12.21 | petn-randall | cardiel: Is it reproducible? What vhosts do you have on that machine? |
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| 14:13.36 | cardiel | petn-randall, i just have a wordpress website , someone suggested that it could be a memory problem |
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| 14:20.17 | petn-randall | cardiel: how much RAM does the machine have? |
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| 14:23.48 | censor | niels1: very simple, i have a routing table per interface, and in each table are two rules - and those are to use the respective subnet's gateway for traffic |
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| 14:24.46 | censor | niels1: here's all i'm using: http://pastebin.com/TTVwBTdx |
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| 14:27.11 | censor | with the default gateway set on the first interface, too |
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| 14:28.10 | censor | without the default gw, both interfaces are reachable from any subnet (or 0.0.0.0, for you guys ;-) ), but the box itself can't reach the "real" internet |
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| 14:30.03 | trytofixit | good day all |
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| 14:35.10 | trytofixit | i tried to aptitude install -t 0.9.4 python-webdav but i think i have to use the SID after -t how can i find out the SID of the Version i would need ? to downgrade the installed latest to 0.9.4... ? |
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| 14:37.58 | niels1 | censor, i don't see how the "rule add to" part of your logic is going to work. when the packets that go out of the box are generated, they don't know yet that they'll be going to the gateway, that's what the routing table decides. and the routing table comes after it's been through the rule part. unless there's some magic caching going on, which would probably mean it won't always work |
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| 14:41.02 | censor | niels1: for traffic initiated on the box itself, it will use the default gateway in the regular routing table |
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| 14:41.34 | censor | niels1: for anything that is generated because of a request from the outside, it uses the specific routing table |
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| 14:41.59 | censor | niels1: don't ask me why or how, but it does work - i can ping both IPs now, and i'm in a subnet far far away |
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| 14:42.31 | censor | niels1: and with "outside" i mean anywhere outside of the two subnets that the interfaces are in |
| 14:43.03 | uglyterm1te | my wifi doesn't work.I'm using xfce |
| 14:43.22 | censor | uglyterm1te: and those are related... how? |
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| 14:44.26 | uglyterm1te | ifconig doesn't detect wlan0 |
| 14:44.29 | blackshirt | Walex2: which part ? |
| 14:44.50 | censor | uglyterm1te: then we'll just ignore Xfce for now |
| 14:45.01 | censor | uglyterm1te: what does 'ifconfig -a' say |
| 14:45.15 | censor | uglyterm1te: and 'iwconfig' |
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| 14:46.17 | uglyterm1te | root@dominator:/home/bruce# ifconfig -a |
| 14:46.17 | uglyterm1te | eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr e8:40:f2:4a:a8:0e inet addr:192.168.1.103 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::ea40:f2ff:fe4a:a80e/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:18965 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:16209 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 |
| 14:46.18 | censor | uglyterm1te: is it a USB device? if so, unplug it, enter 'dmesg -c', plug it in, run 'dmesg' and paste the output at pastebin.com |
| 14:46.22 | uglyterm1te | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:46.25 | uglyterm1te | lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:802 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:802 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:116357 (113.6 KiB) TX bytes:116357 (113.6 KiB) |
| 14:46.30 | uglyterm1te | pan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr de:33:b2:d3:9a:89 BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) |
| 14:46.45 | censor | please don't paste here |
| 14:46.55 | blackshirt | Walex2: which part ? |
| 14:47.03 | blackshirt | still there Walex2 |
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| 14:48.48 | blackshirt | Walex2: still there guys ? |
| 14:49.30 | censor | uglyterm1te: have you seen my other question, regarding USB & dmesg? |
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| 14:52.14 | censor | uglyterm1te: please don't msg me |
| 14:52.19 | censor | uglyterm1te: run 'lspci' |
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| 14:53.00 | censor | uglyterm1te: and paste to pastebin, then paste the link here |
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| 14:56.17 | trytofixit | ok one step forward but still no luck, anyone sees the problem ? "aptitude install -t testing python-webdav-0.9.4.1" tells me that the package name is not matched, how do i have to use the version number |
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| 14:57.28 | aswen | hi there, does anybody know an alternative way to add persistent routes to a debian (squeeze) box? |
| 14:57.52 | aswen | I meen: alternative to post-up cmd's in the interfaces file |
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| 14:58.31 | ChrisH | aswen: create a script in /etc/rcX.d/Syyyrouting and add the routing commands there |
| 14:58.32 | aswen | (i don't understand why there's no "if-postup.d" dir in the network dir |
| 14:58.35 | censor | aswen: man interfaces |
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| 14:59.21 | censor | aswen: in the interface stanza, just add a line like: post-up route add -net 10.0.0.1 gw 192.168.0.254 |
| 14:59.40 | aswen | censor, I asked for an alternative to that method |
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| 14:59.55 | aswen | like ChrisH suggested (thanks ChrisH!) |
| 15:00.18 | censor | aswen: sorry, was already furiously typing ;) |
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| 15:00.31 | aswen | but i wonder what would be the reason for the lacking if-post-up.d dir |
| 15:00.39 | jhutchins_wk | aswen: That's pretty non-standard. The scripts in rc?.d are supposed to be fore daemons that continue to run. rc.local is where one-shot commands should go. |
| 15:00.55 | censor | aswen: as post-up just gets translated to up anyways, you can safely use the if-up.d |
| 15:01.09 | jhutchins_wk | aswen: Where have you seen that directory? |
| 15:01.21 | TheMinimalist | When you go to "about:" in Iceweasel, the part where it says "Read the release notes for this version." doesn't work. and tried to take you to http://mozilla.debian.net/en-US/iceweasel/<VERSION>/releasenotes/ And if you go o http://mozilla.debian.net/en-US/iceweasel/ there's nothing above 4.0. Just letting everyone know so it can get fixed. |
| 15:01.41 | aswen | censor, that results in running the ip r a scripts after bringing up the 1st iface |
| 15:01.55 | jhutchins_wk | TheMinimalist: File a bugreport on mdn. |
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| 15:02.17 | aswen | and i have a bind first, with a bridge on top of that, and thán i want to do route add |
| 15:02.42 | TheMinimalist | jhutchins_wk mdn? Can you link me |
| 15:02.47 | aswen | s/bind/bond |
| 15:03.11 | zykotick9 | TheMinimalist: mdn = mozilla.debian.net |
| 15:03.16 | TheMinimalist | Oh, thank you |
| 15:03.43 | aswen | but i have over 100 servers and not all of them have the bridge, i seek for a generic method to add the post-up commands |
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| 15:04.01 | aswen | i think i have to stick to post-up cmd's in interfaces file... |
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| 15:07.44 | uglyterm1te | censor: I paste it |
| 15:08.26 | censor | uglyterm1te: can't see the link |
| 15:08.39 | censor | you need to paste the link here |
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| 15:10.19 | uglyterm1te | censor: http://pastebin.com/index/FYD65uZS |
| 15:11.15 | censor | uglyterm1te: that's not the whole output, that one line would have been fine to paste here ... but okay |
| 15:12.08 | censor | uglyterm1te: does 'lsmod | grep r8169' give you any results? |
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| 15:13.24 | nander_ | Hi |
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| 15:13.47 | nander_ | I'm trying to compile stepmania, but I get error: No OpenGL library could be found |
| 15:14.05 | nander_ | However, I managed to compile it using exactly the same guide on my other machine |
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| 15:14.37 | Nahledge | Can anyon help me to set up my user to use sudo? |
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| 15:15.08 | uglyterm1te | censor: r8169 36840 0 |
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| 15:15.15 | uglyterm1te | censor: mii 3210 1 r8169 |
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| 15:15.48 | censor | that probably means the driver is loaded for your device |
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| 15:17.06 | censor | did you get any output from 'iwconfig' ? |
| 15:17.22 | censor | and also please run 'iw list' |
| 15:18.01 | uglyterm1te | censor: lo no wireless extensions. |
| 15:18.17 | uglyterm1te | censor: eth0 no wireless extensions. |
| 15:18.33 | uglyterm1te | censor:pan0 no wireless extensions. |
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| 15:18.50 | censor | don't paste here if it's more than 1 line |
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| 15:19.17 | uglyterm1te | censor:ok |
| 15:19.33 | censor | the other command? |
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| 15:20.28 | uglyterm1te | censor: which one? |
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| 15:20.47 | censor | the other one i asked you to run |
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| 15:28.51 | bluesm | Is there any terminal log in debian ? |
| 15:29.16 | trytofixit | good day, i wanted to downgrade my PyWebDAV-0.9.8-3 version to 0.9.4.-1, so i found "aptitude versions python-webdav" i 0.9.8-3 testing 500, then i tried "aptitude install -t testing python-webdav-0.9.4.1" but i get an error that the 0.9.4.1 does not match, but i tried other notations already, no LUCK, please have a look some IDEA ? |
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| 15:29.48 | zykotick9 | bluesm: ~/.bash_history perhaps? |
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| 15:31.20 | babilen | ,v python-webdav |
| 15:31.21 | judd | Package: python-webdav on i386 -- squeeze: 0.9.4-1+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 0.9.4-1+squeeze1; sid: 0.9.8-3; wheezy: 0.9.8-3 |
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| 15:31.53 | babilen | trytofixit: Why do you want to do that? Downgrades are not supported and it is probably a bad idea to use squeeze's version on wheezy or sid (which I assume you run) |
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| 15:32.07 | babilen | dpkg: tell trytofixit about downgrade |
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| 15:33.01 | trytofixit | i know but the problem is that i get a message from openerp that it needs this version |
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| 15:34.58 | bluesm | zykotick9: But I can't find the output ?? |
| 15:35.09 | babilen | trytofixit: Well, then run OpenERP on a supported version (i.e. squeeze) -- Or ask them how to fix this problem as OpenERP doesn't seem to be packaged in Debian. |
| 15:35.12 | bluesm | zykotick9: I mean what particular command return. |
| 15:35.13 | zykotick9 | bluesm: what are you looking for exactly? |
| 15:35.23 | bluesm | zykotick9: I have gnome terminal open |
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| 15:35.33 | zykotick9 | bluesm: oh, if you need the old output - i doubt any of that is recorded... |
| 15:35.34 | bluesm | zykotick9: And want to saw what is |
| 15:35.45 | babilen | trytofixit: You shouldn't run testing or unstable on a production system anyway |
| 15:35.48 | bluesm | "above" the last line :] |
| 15:36.10 | babilen | !tell trytofixit -about openerp |
| 15:36.24 | babilen | trytofixit: I would also recomend to read the two bug reports managed in the factoid dpkg just sent you |
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| 15:37.17 | babilen | trytofixit: It seem to be unmaintained, dead and ... well ... a suboptimal choice |
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| 15:38.42 | grrrreg | Hi |
| 15:38.45 | trytofixit | thanks for the infos i will check out and hopefully become more wise |
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| 15:39.27 | babilen | trytofixit: I guess the best solution is to just use Squeeze or a different ERP system. If that system is bound to be used in production running wheezy or sid is not an option anyway |
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| 15:43.03 | boudiccas | Is anyone using cinnamon on wheezy please? I have specific cinnamon questions to ask |
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| 15:45.16 | trytofixit | babilen: yeah i know that its suboptiomal, but we try to test around with the latest version and run into this stuff, and i am not a linux guru so i am running behind... to get used to all this, but best is learning by doing and asking and hoping that someone shares knowledge :-) so thanks |
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| 15:46.50 | babilen | trytofixit: I still *strongly* recommend to run Debian stable on production systems. It also solves the problem that you have with OpenERP right now |
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| 15:47.18 | moggleburnt | Hi. Is there anything like dmenu that tab-completes filenames? |
| 15:48.12 | trytofixit | babilen: will check this |
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| 15:49.14 | ChrisH | moggleburnt: what is dmenu? Bash does completetion... latest after . /etc/bash_completion |
| 15:49.46 | moggleburnt | ChrisH: it is a program launcher, you hit a keystroke and it pops open, you start typing, and it'll complete to the program you want |
| 15:50.13 | uglyterm1te | how to activate wifi card? |
| 15:50.28 | moggleburnt | ChrisH: It's great, but it doesn't tab-complete paths, only program names. |
| 15:51.07 | ChrisH | moggleburnt: I start programms from KDE launcher or from bash. bash completes anything after sourcing as mentioned above |
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| 15:54.09 | ChrisH | moggleburnt: are you using a graphical system like Gnome or KDE? |
| 15:54.21 | moggleburnt | ChrisH: no, I'm using dwm, a small tiling window manager |
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| 15:55.38 | nander_ | Hi |
| 15:55.48 | nander_ | When compiling I lack -lGL.. |
| 15:55.49 | moggleburnt | ChrisH: Which I quite like, the only thing that's slightly annoying is the lack of file-completion in my launcher. |
| 15:55.54 | nander_ | I have an AMD graphics card |
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| 15:58.35 | nander_ | where do I get fglrx-dev packages? |
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| 15:58.50 | uglytermite | how to activate my wifi? |
| 15:58.57 | gnarface | dpkg: tell nander_ about non-free |
| 15:59.38 | nander_ | I know it's in non-free, but I wonder if someone has a link to a guide that works well |
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| 15:59.53 | gnarface | nander_: the bot does. ask it about non-free sources |
| 16:00.00 | gnarface | dpkg: tell uglytermite about wifi |
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| 16:00.27 | nander_ | I have non-free in my sources.list but it doesn't find fglrx |
| 16:00.51 | gnarface | nander_: paste the file in paste.debian.net and then paste the link in channel |
| 16:01.02 | nander_ | weird, it seems it does now.. |
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| 16:03.45 | litb | hello all |
| 16:03.55 | litb | i'm a little bit confused about mingw-w64 package.. |
| 16:04.12 | nander_ | I've got all the fglrx shit there is in the non-free repos but it still fails |
| 16:04.13 | litb | because I installed it with "apt-get install mingw-w64", but it says it needs to also install mingw32 |
| 16:04.23 | litb | I thought that mingw32 is a competing project? |
| 16:04.32 | litb | why does mingw-w64 depend on mingw32 ? |
| 16:05.10 | blackshirt | hello, someone here experienced with linux container on debian ? |
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| 16:05.31 | gnarface | nander_: X still fails you mean? check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log maybe... |
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| 16:05.52 | nander_ | no, my compiling fails because it can't find -lGL |
| 16:05.59 | nander_ | my computer runs fine |
| 16:06.06 | nander_ | But I can't compile a game I want to compile |
| 16:06.07 | gnarface | and you have fglrx-dev? |
| 16:06.24 | ChrisH | litb: not for me. Depends: gcc-mingw-w64, g++-mingw-w64 | gcc-mingw-w64 (<< 4.6.3-3+4) from apt-cache show mingw-w64 |
| 16:06.25 | nander_ | unable to locate.. |
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| 16:06.41 | nander_ | I have fglrx-source, but fglrx-dev I can't find |
| 16:06.42 | gnarface | nander_: how about try apt-get build-essential ? |
| 16:07.09 | nander_ | build-essential is there |
| 16:07.24 | nander_ | (apt-get install build-essential) |
| 16:07.25 | gnarface | nander_: or maybe apt-get build-dep fglrx-source or something like that. you have contrib in your sources as well right? |
| 16:08.25 | litb | ChrisH: hmm it doesn't show any "Depends: " for me |
| 16:08.41 | nander_ | deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy non-free contrib main |
| 16:08.44 | litb | ChrisH: but it says "Recommends: mingw32-binutils (>= 2.20), gcc-mingw32 (>= 4.4.2-3)" |
| 16:08.47 | nander_ | Do I also need a deb-src of that one? |
| 16:08.52 | litb | which is weird because it seems to recommend a competing package!? |
| 16:09.37 | litb | it installed mingw32-binutils, mingw32-runtime, and gcc-mingw32 when I told it to install mingw-w64 |
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| 16:09.54 | nander_ | is your pc 32 or 64 bit? |
| 16:10.19 | litb | nander_: 64bit |
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| 16:10.23 | litb | squeeze |
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| 16:10.32 | uglytermite | gnarface please,how to enable my wifi? |
| 16:10.35 | ChrisH | 64bit wheezy here |
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| 16:10.56 | uglytermite | gnarface I have a Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n |
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| 16:11.20 | gnarface | !RTL8188CE |
| 16:11.20 | dpkg | The Realtek RTL8188CE and RTL8192CE are PCI-E 802.11n wireless LAN chipsets (PCI IDs 10ec:8176, 10ec:8177, 10ec:8178, 10ec:8191). mac80211 vendor driver (rtl8192ce) is available since Linux 2.6.38. Firmware is required (rtlwifi/rtl8192cfw.bin), ask me about <realtek firmware> to provide. http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x |
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| 16:11.32 | gnarface | uglytermite: ^^ |
| 16:11.39 | gnarface | uglytermite: can you read that? |
| 16:12.40 | ChrisH | litb: checked on 32bit squeeze... it would install the w32 stuff there too. |
| 16:12.56 | folivora | Hello, any idea how I can mount UFS usb-stick? |
| 16:13.02 | litb | ChrisH: i don'T know what the w32 is :( |
| 16:13.10 | folivora | I need to make bootable solaris usb-stick |
| 16:13.26 | ChrisH | litb: mingw32* and gccmingw32* |
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| 16:13.57 | litb | ChrisH: but I want mingw-w64 |
| 16:14.08 | litb | i hear mingw is outdated |
| 16:14.13 | blackshirt | hello, someone here experienced with linux container on debian ? |
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| 16:14.18 | litb | and is superceeded by mingw-w64 |
| 16:14.27 | ChrisH | litb: seems to be not possible on squeeze only on wheezy |
| 16:14.45 | litb | ChrisH: oh :( |
| 16:14.56 | litb | i will install the upstream package then |
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| 16:16.46 | nander_ | I have an alternative: compiled game, but it fails somewhere else: ./stepmania: error while loading shared libraries: libpng15.so.15: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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| 16:18.38 | jhutchins_wk | nander_: You should ponder the quality of the source code if it won't compile on a standard Debian setup. If you have to fix stuff to get it to compile, how can you trust that the compiled code won't be broken too? |
| 16:19.06 | nander_ | jhutchins - it worked fine on my different machine |
| 16:19.15 | nander_ | AMD is just a bunch of *** |
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| 16:19.41 | jhutchins_wk | nander_: The configure script should be able to locate whatever libraries and headers it needs and set up the makefile to link them properly. |
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| 16:19.54 | nander_ | But if it can't find lGL.. |
| 16:20.02 | nander_ | That's kind of basic stuff |
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| 16:20.25 | keith4_ | nander_: run 'ldd stepmania' and you'll see all of the missing libs |
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| 16:20.39 | jhutchins_wk | nander_: Which would imply a package that falls short on the basics, and probably fails major on the big stuff. |
| 16:21.07 | nander_ | No, they don't fail, I lack dependencies |
| 16:21.25 | nander_ | Which is because it's damm hard to get anything to work with AMD drivers.. |
| 16:21.29 | folivora | any idea how to get ufs rw working ? |
| 16:21.40 | folivora | ufsutils wont help in this case |
| 16:22.01 | nander_ | According to ldd I lack libGLEW.so.1.6 and libpng15.so.15 |
| 16:22.33 | keith4_ | where did you compile this? |
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| 16:22.54 | nander_ | It's their executable |
| 16:23.29 | keith4_ | do they provide those libraries? |
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| 16:24.56 | nander_ | no, they don't.. |
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| 16:25.14 | nander_ | It seems they support windows and mac and say: well linux users, here's an executable but you should know how to compile anyway |
| 16:25.35 | nander_ | Every minute they put into linux support they don't put in development of the actual product ;) |
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| 16:26.03 | keith4_ | that's specious logic. every minute they put into Mac support, they don't put in development of the actual product |
| 16:26.04 | nander_ | They don't actively block linux out (select only libraries that should be available on linux), but they don't really support it either |
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| 16:26.14 | nander_ | Mac is 10% market share |
| 16:26.23 | nander_ | Linux 1.56% |
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| 16:26.44 | nander_ | Which is over a lot of products, while there are only 10 macs (for all intents and purposes) |
| 16:26.56 | keith4_ | if they don't provide those libs, you're kinda SOL. you can try faking it by symlinking libpng15.so.15 to whatever version you have (probably 12).... |
| 16:27.10 | nander_ | I don't know where it should be located |
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| 16:36.32 | confusid | with a laptop I have only one screen but if I plug in an external monitor it does not work. However if I have the external monitor plugged in at time of boot I have a mirrored image. How can I setup the 2nd monitor so it is ready at all times? |
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| 16:38.06 | somiaj | confusid: type xrandr -q (That will list all the screens you have pluged in at the time) |
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| 16:38.26 | somiaj | you can then use that to turn on/off mirror other monintors. (There are also some gui front in tools to it like gxrandr |
| 16:38.46 | somiaj | hmm, guess that isn't there, I do see lxrandr |
| 16:39.39 | jhutchins_wk | iirc it's xrandrtray on some systems. |
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| 16:43.14 | AciD` | confusid: krandrtray for kde |
| 16:43.16 | confusid | somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/211269/ TY it shows 2, the laptop screen and the vga. I see the hdmi port but what is the other? DP1? Also is there a way to have that come up as a non mirrored screen? The vga |
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| 16:43.30 | confusid | I'm using xfce at the moment. |
| 16:43.50 | somiaj | I can't view links, my name server here sucks |
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| 16:44.43 | somiaj | anyways yes you can configure your monintors how ever you want, set the resolutions, set mirror, set them leftof, rightof, topof, etc |
| 16:44.46 | somiaj | man xrandr |
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| 16:46.33 | confusid | ty |
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| 16:46.57 | somiaj | I woudln't be surprised if xfce has a gui tool for this somewhere. |
| 16:47.10 | somiaj | but bugger if I know what or where it is |
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| 16:48.22 | folivora | Gday, any idea how I can create bootable usb-stick of Solaris11.iso with FreeBSD? |
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| 16:52.34 | svilayphiou | hi, I made a bad manipulation in vim in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini . Result is that I have nothing in the file anymore. Is it possible to get back the default config file? Is /etc/php5/cli/php.ini the same that I can copy/paste? |
| 16:53.04 | somiaj | folivora: and what do any of those have to do with debian? |
| 16:53.18 | confusid | somiaj: I installed arandr and it does what I was trying to do :) I do not see anything like this in the menu. Will google a bit more on it. Thanks for the help!! |
| 16:53.20 | folivora | sry wrong chan :) |
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| 16:54.27 | somiaj | svilayphiou: not really, once you have exted out and saved vim I belive it deletes any tmp files/backups (by default) though I think can change this behavior |
| 16:54.40 | somiaj | if you are still in vim and you haven't saved the changes you can hit 'u' for undo |
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| 16:56.12 | nvz | I generally like to hit 'u' for 'u' which is my huge complaint with vi and the like.. heh |
| 16:57.05 | svilayphiou | thanks, I'm afraid I did quit vim and can't undo anymore... |
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| 16:57.12 | nvz | in my mind its logical for an editor to oh, idk.. echo the characters onto the screen |
| 16:57.27 | sney | gotta make sure you're in insert mode, nvz |
| 16:57.39 | sney | I don't use vi/vim unless I have to, but I still know that much |
| 16:57.48 | nvz | yeah.. well as far as i'm concerned thats the only mode and editor should have |
| 16:58.20 | svilayphiou | I use vim everyday.... really bad luck, something that bad never happens... |
| 16:58.29 | sney | good thing there's more than one editor, so you can use whatever you like, nvz |
| 16:58.38 | martxel | svilayphiou: you can reinstall php |
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| 16:59.03 | sney | !tell svilayphiou about confmiss |
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| 16:59.34 | martxel | !tell martxel about confmiss |
| 16:59.42 | martxel | cool |
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| 17:00.02 | svilayphiou | martxel, sney thanks! |
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| 17:00.07 | svilayphiou | will try that |
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| 17:25.37 | n1md4 | afternoon, i've removed some (iscsi) drives from a dom0 without first running pvremove, and now I get "/dev/dm-7: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 0: Input/output error" for example. |
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| 17:26.45 | n1md4 | how can I get rid of these messages? |
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| 17:30.43 | nroie | hello |
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| 17:37.10 | volkan | Hey, i just let a failing disk exchanged on a server. I learned the hard way that the boot partition isn't on RAID and can be on the drive which get's exchanged. Now being in a rescue shell i think i fixed the bootloader (grub) but mdadm is taking forever to finish the synching of the drives. Can i reboot or do i need to wait until the synching is done? |
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| 17:37.54 | n1md4 | volkan: you can reboot |
| 17:38.09 | n1md4 | but ensure you grub-install first |
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| 17:39.02 | volkan | n1md4: Thanks a lot for answering… Is there anyway to check if grub is working correctly before booting? I did grub-install /dev/sdb ; grub-install --recheck /dev/sdb; grub-update |
| 17:39.24 | volkan | n1md4: none of them complained… |
| 17:40.00 | n1md4 | sdb? not sda? |
| 17:40.11 | martxel | file -s /dev/sdb |
| 17:40.30 | volkan | n1md4: sdb was the broken one... |
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| 17:41.25 | volkan | martxel: http://pastebin.com/6kq6MPqj |
| 17:41.27 | n1md4 | I see. I'd still install the bootloader on sda, but then, it depends on which drive the bios is set to boot from |
| 17:41.59 | n1md4 | do both :) |
| 17:42.03 | volkan | :) |
| 17:42.57 | n1md4 | I've had a pig of a time with raid recently, so much that I've gone back to a separate /boot partition. |
| 17:43.06 | Walex2 | n1md4: try using 'dmsetup' |
| 17:43.14 | n1md4 | ah! thanks. |
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| 17:43.36 | martxel | n1md4: I found this command useful sudo dd bs=512 count=1 if=/dev/sda 2>/dev/null | strings |
| 17:43.47 | Walex2 | n1md4: in particular: dmsetup remove --force |
| 17:43.57 | martxel | It should tell you Grub somewhere there |
| 17:44.30 | Walex2 | n1md4: anyhow 'pvremove' also has '--force' |
| 17:44.43 | nroie | hello |
| 17:44.49 | n1md4 | cheers! need to dash, check that later |
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| 17:46.15 | nroie | how do I do automount usb hdd when it is inserted during runtime? just with /etc/fstab it doesn't work |
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| 17:47.38 | martxel | nroie: is it a new install? |
| 17:47.50 | nroie | nroie: no |
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| 17:47.59 | nroie | martxel: no |
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| 17:49.22 | martxel | nroie: maybe with usbmount |
| 17:49.39 | awc737 | hey |
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| 17:49.55 | awc737 | is there a command to list attatched monitors? |
| 17:50.17 | awc737 | i'm trying to add a monitor to xorg.conf but I don't know what model name to give it etc |
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| 17:50.27 | martxel | xrandr |
| 17:50.49 | awc737 | thanks |
| 17:51.03 | awc737 | I have a laptop with Nvidia Optimus and getting an external screen to work is a nightmare |
| 17:51.06 | awc737 | on DVI that is |
| 17:51.06 | nroie | martxel: would that one mount to the folders that are mapped in fstab? |
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| 17:52.10 | martxel | I don't really know |
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| 17:54.47 | volkan | hm… server didn't boot :( |
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| 17:55.25 | volkan | n1md4: sorry for bugging you but do you have another idea??? |
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| 18:01.06 | ws | sorry for a lame question. I'm having a problem during wheezy installation -- the installer complains about non-free iwlwifi-6000-5.ucode and iwlwifi-6000-6.ucode files and asks whether I have them on an installation media (usb stick). |
| 18:01.10 | ws | it's basically http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=689416 |
| 18:01.54 | ws | I would love to hear some help -- I only have windows 7 running on another machine (which doesn't seem recognize the ext3 [?] partition on the USB stick) |
| 18:02.22 | ws | and I only have wireless connection at this moment (no ethernet) |
| 18:03.52 | ws | from what I understand I'd need to unpack 3 files from a firmware.tar.gz and put them on the usb somewhere. Does anyone know whether I can mount this stick from win7? |
| 18:04.40 | svilayphiou | martxel, sney, so we had to purge the package before reinstalling it, otherwise he kept saying he wouldn't replace the erased config file. so everything seems back on track, big thanks! |
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| 18:04.50 | Justin | ws: format the usb drive as fat32 |
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| 18:05.19 | martxel | svilayphiou: np :) |
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| 18:07.54 | ws | Justin: I see, I simply burned a complete .iso earlier. Let me look up the instructions for preparing a usb stick from scratch. |
| 18:08.08 | Justin | ws: right click. format. |
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| 18:39.46 | ws | Justin: I stumbled upon another problem, trying a daily build now |
| 18:40.04 | ws | Justin: the other one was bug #681267 |
| 18:40.16 | ws | Justin: perhaps it'd be wiser of me to install squeeze and then upgrade? |
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| 18:43.53 | Justin | ws: can you just use ethernet? |
| 18:44.36 | zxcvbn | will uucp be deprecated soon? |
| 18:44.37 | ws | yup, that solves the 1st problem. |
| 18:45.14 | ws | Justin: the second one is "No kernel modules were found. [...]" |
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| 18:46.06 | bluesm | What is the purpose of mounting, |
| 18:46.41 | bluesm | Why all disc, and other media couldn't be available without mounting ? |
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| 18:47.12 | untrusted | bluesm: where should it be available? |
| 18:47.18 | ws | because of mountpoints |
| 18:47.24 | ws | because of syncing on unmount |
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| 18:47.45 | ws | because of a gazillion of things I have no clue about aswell |
| 18:47.58 | gnarface | bluesm: its logistically necessary as a feature. fyi raw access IS available without mounting (but its not safe and i wouldn't recommend trying to use it for daily use) |
| 18:47.59 | mtn | bluesm: in the cloud? |
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| 18:48.24 | gnarface | bluesm: fyi its necessary in windows and os X and every other operating system as well they just typically do it for you automatically |
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| 18:52.27 | bluesm | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:52.42 | simonlnu | what's that factoid again that shows the "install standard task" aptitude ? |
| 18:52.47 | simonlnu | oh wait |
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| 18:53.42 | simonlnu | found it |
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| 18:54.54 | asturel | is there an howto activate intel turbo mode on debian squeeze? |
| 18:55.07 | zxcvbn | bluesm: disk or other device need some "entry point" to become available (like C:), and mechanism of translating low-level "raw data" into human-readable thing, so mounting should be done anyway |
| 18:56.14 | asturel | or atleast howto set the clock into turbo freq |
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| 18:58.03 | gnarface | bluesm: "for your information" |
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| 18:58.27 | dondelelcaro | asturel: that happens automatically |
| 18:59.23 | bluesm | Ok Thank you very much! :) |
| 18:59.24 | asturel | is there a way to check is turbo mode disabled via bios? |
| 18:59.25 | bluesm | zxcvbn: thanks :) |
| 18:59.41 | asturel | cpufrequtils says available frequency steps: 2.67 GHz, 2.67 GHz, 2.53 GHz, 2.40 GHz, 2.27 GHz, 2.13 GHz, 2.00 GHz, 1.87 GHz, 1.73 GHz, 1.60 GHz, 1.47 GHz, 1.33 GHz, 1.20 GHz |
| 18:59.48 | asturel | turbo mode is 3.27 or something |
| 19:00.09 | simonlnu | asturel: turbo? seriously? cpus have move on from that... |
| 19:00.16 | asturel | 3.2 |
| 19:00.24 | simonlnu | !cpufreq |
| 19:00.24 | dpkg | The Linux kernel CPUfreq subsystem supports frequency scaling on mobile (and some desktop) x86, PowerPC and ARM processors. It provides an interface for throttling processor speed, to save power when the system is idle. http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/CpuFrequencyScaling http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#cpufreq . See also <speedstep>, <coolnquiet>, <power saving>. |
| 19:00.29 | asturel | simonlnu ? |
| 19:00.33 | asturel | then how its called? |
| 19:00.35 | simonlnu | read ^^^ |
| 19:00.54 | asturel | simonlnu its called turbo by intel |
| 19:00.59 | asturel | http://ark.intel.com/products/42915/Intel-Core-i5-750-Processor-8M-Cache-2_66-GHz?q=750 |
| 19:01.03 | ws | simonlnu: quite the contrary, 'turbo boost' was re-introduced by intel pretty recently ;-) |
| 19:01.12 | simonlnu | omg... |
| 19:01.15 | ws | simonlnu: although there's no turbo button anymore |
| 19:01.22 | asturel | and i dont want power saving modes just want turbo freq |
| 19:01.27 | asturel | 0-24 |
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| 19:01.30 | simonlnu | one of those "wait 20 years and re-introduce crap" |
| 19:01.35 | dondelelcaro | asturel: it's handled internally by the CPU |
| 19:01.44 | damacus | actually back in the day turbo was more a misnomer |
| 19:01.49 | ws | simonlnu: exactly... I'm waiting till they re-introduce mechanical keyboards and 4:3 screens |
| 19:01.51 | simonlnu | no kidding |
| 19:01.59 | damacus | should've called it "handicap" or "retard" |
| 19:02.02 | ws | as a standard at least |
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| 19:02.07 | zxcvbn | bluesm: actually any media is available without mounting. and you can do it if you _really_ need it. ("head -20 /dev/sda", for example - thats your hdd.) but it most cases thereis no need in this. |
| 19:02.15 | simonlnu | ws: oh, like this one? :P |
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| 19:02.28 | asturel | dondelelcaro so it works without any changes on squeeze? |
| 19:02.37 | simonlnu | zxcvbn: sssh :P |
| 19:02.38 | dondelelcaro | asturel: no, you'll probably need a newer kernel |
| 19:02.57 | asturel | which? |
| 19:02.58 | simonlnu | damacus: hehe |
| 19:03.01 | dondelelcaro | asturel: but assuming your bios supports it, and you have a new enough processor, you should see the mode using i7z or similar. |
| 19:03.03 | ws | simonlnu: actually, I like both (mechanical keyboards and 4:3 screens) |
| 19:03.29 | simonlnu | this one is an electronic one, but nice big keys and sounds |
| 19:03.32 | ws | simonlnu: just hoping they'd be re-introduced at some point... and high-res displays too (I hope they'd hurry up before I get too old and too blind) |
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| 19:03.50 | asturel | i7z? |
| 19:03.51 | ws | yup *clickety-click* and tactile feedback |
| 19:03.59 | asturel | mode?:D |
| 19:04.02 | asturel | u mean cpu flags? |
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| 19:04.16 | bluesm | zxcvbn: Twenty lines of ? |
| 19:04.30 | dondelelcaro | asturel: see http://kolbusa.livejournal.com/71066.html for details. |
| 19:04.42 | ws | asturel: btw., you most likely have 'multi-threading' -- you should see twice as many entries on /proc/cpuinfo as your number of physical cores |
| 19:05.04 | dondelelcaro | hyperthreading (ht), but yes... |
| 19:05.09 | ws | right, sorry |
| 19:05.26 | ws | these modern features scare me |
| 19:05.36 | ws | not turbo boost or multi-threading, but TPM and AMC |
| 19:05.43 | asturel | i dont find anything in /sys/ related to current freq |
| 19:05.47 | asturel | how do i determine then? |
| 19:05.49 | bluesm | zxcvbn: 20 lines of bytecode, Probably grub it on the beggining. Right ? |
| 19:05.52 | ws | s/AMC/AMT/ |
| 19:05.57 | asturel | ah found it :D |
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| 19:06.36 | asturel | sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu3/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies |
| 19:06.36 | asturel | 2668000 2667000 2533000 2400000 2267000 2133000 2000000 1867000 1733000 1600000 1467000 1333000 1200000 |
| 19:06.46 | asturel | it shoulnt put turbo freq? |
| 19:06.49 | zxcvbn | bluesm: yes! twenty lines of your physical physical disk drive, only ones and zeros |
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| 19:07.18 | dondelelcaro | asturel: no, because again, that's handled internally. See the post that I sent you, and use the i7x utility if you want to know more. |
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| 19:08.28 | asturel | is there an package of that too?:D |
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| 19:09.20 | codygman | debian/rules build is getting hung while trying to coimpile eglibc 15 AFTER generating all the locales :/ |
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| 19:13.00 | Bartzy | Hey |
| 19:13.02 | Bartzy | I constantly need to do 'dpkg-reconfigure resolvconf' and choose 'yes' , because the symlink from /etc/resolv.conf to the dynamic one - is missing after a laptop sleep. |
| 19:13.06 | Bartzy | Any idea ? |
| 19:13.25 | dondelelcaro | Bartzy: what happens to the symlink? |
| 19:13.39 | dondelelcaro | Bartzy: is it broken? or does it get overwritten? or what? |
| 19:13.58 | Bartzy | dondelelcaro: It just turns to be a regular file - maybe network-manager is overwriting it ? |
| 19:14.04 | Bartzy | overwritten |
| 19:14.05 | dondelelcaro | Bartzy: oh. quite possibly |
| 19:14.07 | Bartzy | :( |
| 19:14.17 | Bartzy | so what can I do ? |
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| 19:15.25 | bluesm | zxcvbn: How to get it in real, 0 and 1, not in pseudo-text ? |
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| 19:16.22 | dondelelcaro | Bartzy: I don't know much about NM, unfortunately. If this is squeeze, odds are the bug has been fixed in wheezy. If it's wheezy, please file a bug |
| 19:16.30 | dondelelcaro | (or check to make sure that a bug hasn't already been filed) |
| 19:16.46 | codygman | I keep getting hangs with: make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/cody/multiarch-backport/eglibc-2.15/build-tree/amd64-libc |
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| 19:18.39 | asturel | btw which debian is recommended for i7 system for game servers like hlds? |
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| 19:19.28 | WineQQ | hi guys i just installed debian fileserver and configured smb.conf with security = share |
| 19:20.38 | WineQQ | and i just created a user with smbpasswd but i cant get access to the folders on the server as the user i created |
| 19:20.47 | codygman | Does anyone know where I can get build-dep? |
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| 19:23.33 | WineQQ | any ideas ? :( |
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| 19:28.39 | ws | ok, let me try to instal squeezy and upgrade |
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| 19:29.03 | Justin | WineQQ: pretty sure you should not have changed the security option from user to share |
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| 19:31.15 | WineQQ | @Justin as default its set as # security = user .... well the problem is i dont get how share and user works i already read about it but still dont get it because user doestn work neither for me |
| 19:31.29 | txomon|nqas | has anyone succeeded trying kdump? |
| 19:31.31 | jhutchins_wk | Bartzy: I woner if your system is not detecting that the network needs to be brought back up. That link should be created by the dhcp client when it re-establishes the connection. |
| 19:31.41 | txomon|nqas | I have tried but I must have missed something... |
| 19:31.54 | Justin | WineQQ: well put it back to user and troubleshoot from there |
| 19:32.08 | jhutchins_wk | Bartzy: On my squeeze netbook, sleep usually takes the network off-line and I have to reconnect manually (using the NM tray widget). |
| 19:32.43 | Morblias | how do I ssh tunnel into a computer? i did ssh name@ip which connects me, but now I have no idea what to do. I tried setting proxy to 127.0.0.1 port 22, but it says SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-6+squeeze2 Protocol mismatch. |
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| 19:33.08 | jhutchins_wk | WineQQ: Can you browse the shares? |
| 19:33.13 | Bartzy | jhutchins_wk: Well, it reconnects automatically in my case (NM) |
| 19:33.27 | jhutchins_wk | Bartzy: Does it renew the lease? |
| 19:33.39 | Bartzy | yes - it's a new network |
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| 19:33.44 | Bartzy | (wifi) |
| 19:34.02 | jhutchins_wk | Ok, so dhclient should be running. |
| 19:34.07 | WineQQ | if i leave #security = share as default i cant browse anything . Just by setting the sharefolder to "guest ok = yes" |
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| 19:35.11 | jhutchins_wk | WineQQ: I always used squid to set up my samba server - it links to the documentation and can be really helpful in figuring out what steps need to be taken. |
| 19:35.16 | Justin | WineQQ: are you trying to support actual authenticated users, or guests? |
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| 19:36.12 | Justin | WineQQ: the default samba configuration in debian works just fine for user access to their home directories, if anything you just to comment out the line that makes them read only |
| 19:36.15 | WineQQ | im trying to support authenticated users only ... so i tried security = user and added 2 users via smbpasswd -a user |
| 19:36.37 | Justin | WineQQ: ok. so on another box connect to //server/user and login |
| 19:38.12 | WineQQ | @justin done |
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| 19:39.36 | sbl_ | Hi! |
| 19:40.06 | sbl_ | I'm trying to install PPTPD + SAMBA and I see an error whet I try restart pptpd Long config file line ignored. |
| 19:40.15 | sbl_ | any help? |
| 19:40.51 | sbl_ | pptpd Long config file line ignored. |
| 19:41.01 | sbl_ | that is in syslog |
| 19:41.02 | Justin | WineQQ: ok? |
| 19:41.15 | WineQQ | yes :) |
| 19:41.20 | Justin | sbl_: did you modify the configuration file? |
| 19:41.51 | jhutchins_wk | WineQQ: using share security it should authenticate for each new connection to share. |
| 19:41.54 | sbl_ | Justin: Yes, but I added only my localip area |
| 19:42.19 | Justin | sbl_: there's apparently an old bug where if the file doesn't end in a newline you get that error |
| 19:42.28 | Justin | sbl_: did you add stuff to the end of the file and not add a newline? |
| 19:42.41 | petn-randall | sbl_: In case you have an alternative option, this might interest you: http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Microsoft-says-don-t-use-PPTP-and-MS-CHAP-1672257.html |
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| 19:42.56 | jhutchins_wk | Also need to make sure the file wasn't edited on an MS system. |
| 19:43.33 | sbl_ | Justin: thanks ;_; I just fixed.. I don't add new line in end of file |
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| 19:43.45 | jhutchins_wk | BarthezZ: if you take down the connection, it should remove the link to the dynamic file. If you bring it back up manually, does it restore the link? |
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| 19:44.06 | txomon|nqas | anyone knows if there are kdump images precompiled for debian? |
| 19:44.15 | txomon|nqas | kdump capture images |
| 19:44.28 | jhutchins_wk | BarthezZ: Sorry if you're not Bartzy. |
| 19:45.12 | WineQQ | @jhutchins_wk it works for me as following: i set security = share .. from my pc i try to open network -> fileserver-> folder ... then im told to authenticate myself... and that part doesnt work... whether share nore user |
| 19:45.46 | jhutchins_wk | WineQQ: Check the logs. How does it fail? |
| 19:46.07 | jhutchins_wk | WineQQ: On IRC @ actually disables highlighting. |
| 19:46.29 | WineQQ | oh ok^^ |
| 19:46.41 | jhutchins_wk | WineQQ: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/ <- somewhat dense. |
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| 19:48.09 | WineQQ | ok thanks so far i guess i need to read that first ... :) |
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| 19:53.57 | WilliamEDIS | whats max filelist in a dir rsync can handle? |
| 19:54.14 | WilliamEDIS | i have one with around 50000 folders and want to try to rsync it away to another server |
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| 19:56.29 | g-hennux | hi! |
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| 19:57.45 | jhutchins_wk | WilliamEDIS: It's gonna take some time however you do it, but I'd just try it with rsync first. |
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| 19:57.55 | g-hennux | i just got a new server with a hardware raid 1 (plus quad-core cpu, 32gb ram), installed squeeze on it and while gunzipping a file, i had very high cpu consumption of process "flush-8:0" and a load of ~3. i was wondering whether that's "normal" or how i could check that my drives work correctly etc. |
| 19:58.06 | jhutchins_wk | WilliamEDIS: If that doesn't work, you can do it with find or a for loop or something. |
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| 19:58.18 | jhutchins_wk | WilliamEDIS: Don't borrow trouble though, chances are it'll just work. |
| 19:58.25 | WilliamEDIS | yea thats the worst thing i could think of |
| 19:58.30 | WilliamEDIS | but probably works |
| 19:58.34 | dragonslay | hi, i've formatted my partition and rewritten the block with "dd if=/dev/zero of=/location". is there anychance that the data is recoverable again? |
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| 19:59.44 | jhutchins_wk | dragonslay: Yes. |
| 20:00.06 | jhutchins_wk | dragonslay: Given a sufficiently motivated entity with sufficient resources. |
| 20:00.36 | dragonslay | jhutchins_wk: normal ntfs recovery programs can't recover after that, right? |
| 20:00.37 | confusid | ok.. I don't get it.. I reinstalled virtual box for a 3rd time followed the smae instrucktions and wham.. now it works without errors.. |
| 20:01.01 | jhutchins_wk | dragonslay: It depends. |
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| 20:01.19 | jhutchins_wk | dragonslay: How secure does it need to be? Are you going to be using the partition for something else now? |
| 20:01.53 | dragonslay | jhutchins_wk: i've a few files left over.. i've only wiped the free space |
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| 20:03.00 | jhutchins_wk | dragonslay: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_remanence |
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| 20:03.13 | jhutchins_wk | dragonslay: http://www.capasset.com/dod_wipe_datawipe.html |
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| 20:06.08 | jhutchins_wk | dragonslay: As you use the device/partition and write new data to it, recovery gets progressively more difficult. |
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| 20:07.27 | dragonslay | jhutchins_wk: i'm unsure of how much i'll write to the rest of the partitions in future. i think, the rest of the space may not be written. that's why i wiped the rest of it. |
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| 20:09.47 | petn-randall | Does someone have experience with an encrypted root partition on a remote server? I though of unlocking on boot by connecting via SSH and providing the key. Is this doable? Does anyone have experience with this? |
| 20:09.53 | vasile | I'm trying to autmount an nfs share. I can mount if manually using the mount command. And my sshfs automouts are working fine. But reloading autofs does not yield the mountpoints for my nfs shares. Syslog and /var/log/messages are silent. I'm not sure where to turn next for troubleshooting and would appreciate a point in the right direction. Thanks. |
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| 20:10.36 | dragonslay | jhutchins_wk: thank you sir, i appretiate your help. |
| 20:10.55 | bluesm | hey |
| 20:11.04 | WilliamEDIS | vasile: an easy solution would be rc.local |
| 20:11.06 | WilliamEDIS | its what i use |
| 20:11.09 | petn-randall | vasile: It only gets mounted when accessed ... do the logs (kern.log, daemon.log, syslog) show anything? |
| 20:11.52 | vasile | WilliamEDIS: thanks, I'll look into that. |
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| 20:13.03 | WilliamEDIS | mount -t cifs //192.168.1.21/musik1/Musik /home/FTPMOUNT/Music_Musik -o ro,user=Administrator,pass=XXXXX |
| 20:13.04 | WilliamEDIS | etc |
| 20:13.32 | vasile | WilliamEDIS: when is rc.local run? |
| 20:13.32 | WilliamEDIS | boot |
| 20:13.32 | vasile | petn-randall: logs are empty |
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| 20:13.53 | vasile | petn-randall: And the mountpoints aren't created, so I can't access them to trigger a mounting. |
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| 20:15.27 | vasile | petn-randall: The relevant lines from auto.master and auto.nfs: http://pastebin.com/7f10gAY2 |
| 20:16.04 | vasile | WilliamEDIS: ah, this is a laptop that moves around a lot, so I need the connection to be able to survive flaky connectivity |
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| 20:19.20 | jhutchins_wk | vasile: Try pre-creating the mount points. |
| 20:19.55 | petn-randall | vasile: Yeah, I think the mount points must exist |
| 20:20.04 | vasile | # mkdir /mnt/nfs/upload |
| 20:20.05 | vasile | mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/nfs/upload': Permission denied |
| 20:20.22 | jhutchins_wk | vasile: There really isn't a network mount system that survives connection losses well. Automount only appears to because the share isn't mounted until needed, when you presumably have stable connectivity. |
| 20:20.51 | vasile | jhutchins_wk: yes, that's good enough for my purpose. |
| 20:20.55 | jhutchins_wk | vasile: Does /mnt/nfs exist? |
| 20:21.00 | vasile | jhutchins_wk: yes |
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| 20:21.34 | jhutchins_wk | Automounts 9and failures) show up in my logs, but that's on RHEL. |
| 20:22.42 | vasile | jhutchins_wk: yes, I'm mystified that the logs don't show anything, even for the mounts that are working |
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| 20:26.12 | vasile | Added --verbose to the init script. Much better. |
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| 20:33.16 | ia | d/c |
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| 20:33.58 | Devilinside | is there any good facebook app for debian? |
| 20:34.11 | WilliamEDIS | Chrome/Firefox |
| 20:34.21 | SiDz | evil facebook!! |
| 20:34.30 | Devilinside | i mean dedicated :P |
| 20:34.32 | WilliamEDIS | Ie8 in Wine |
| 20:34.36 | WilliamEDIS | if you are masochistic |
| 20:35.04 | jhutchins_wk | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20395212 <- the WITCH. |
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| 20:35.27 | Devilinside | HAHA!! like ubuntu has one... tried running but didn succeed!! |
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| 20:41.55 | threadlock | there is no php5-suhosin in wheezy? |
| 20:42.30 | threadlock | sorry, that wasn't meant as a question |
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| 21:08.23 | mapf | why GET tell "can't open file"? |
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| 21:09.58 | Leoneof | hello, this mesg is ok? EXT4-fs (sda6): warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended |
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| 21:12.36 | GNU\colossus | Leoneof, usually nothing to worry about |
| 21:12.49 | Leoneof | GNU\colossus: thanks :) |
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| 21:21.46 | syro | hi guys, what are your opinions about putting wajig to cron besides unattended updates. I'm thinking about kernel and bootloader updates and also script updates where is necessary your input. is it possible to make it YES forever? |
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| 21:48.57 | KettleCooked | I'm trying to troubleshoot my audio on Debian Squeeze. Does anyone know a good/easy/beginner tutorial for playing a sound? I have this command "aplay" that I would like to play a sound with just to check the signal flow |
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| 21:49.48 | KettleCooked | Or perhaps if you know an audio-focused IRC channel |
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| 21:51.17 | gnarface | dpkg: tell KettleCooked about alsa checklist |
| 21:51.51 | KettleCooked | thanks! |
| 21:52.33 | gnarface | KettleCooked: in my experience most problems not covered by that checklist come from having either accidentally installed pulseaudio or using a onboard card like snd_hda_intel ones that doesn't actually support hardware mixing but configuring it as though it does |
| 21:53.06 | gnarface | KettleCooked: having multiple soundcards in use at once can be tricky too |
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| 21:56.19 | enyawix | how do you prevent the kernel from being upgraded? I what to prevent kernel changes because debian is running in a vm |
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| 21:56.59 | KettleCooked | gnarface: I have an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 and I've managed to record audio about 6 months ago. Now I've installed festival (TextToSpeech) and I want to hear that stuff, and I can't comprehend what alsamixer is actually setting/showing me.. yet :) |
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| 21:58.24 | enyawix | dpkg --set-selections ? |
| 21:58.26 | dpkg | enyawix: i don't know |
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| 22:00.18 | peterrooney | does pulseaudio exist for the sole purpose of destroying people's hard-won sound configuration? |
| 22:01.02 | enyawix | i think so i can not seem to install kde without pulseaudio being installed |
| 22:01.19 | confusid | confusid@porta:~$ apt-cache search poweriso daa2iso - The DAA files (Direct Access Archive) to ISO converting tool |
| 22:01.20 | KettleCooked | Yay! Got it working now, was a matter of pressing every button/lever in alsamixer |
| 22:01.28 | confusid | Is daa2iso the same thing as poweriso? |
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| 22:02.47 | confusid | ok.. nm.. it looks like dd but takes XX data and makes iso. |
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| 22:03.47 | enyawix | throw rocks at pulseaudio |
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| 22:14.57 | Walex2 | enyawix: PulseAudio was done by Poettering :-) |
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| 22:18.45 | MrMaDSeN | hey |
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| 22:19.13 | MrMaDSeN | anyone good with logging sftp file transfers to .log file? been trying to get this working for ages |
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| 22:20.27 | ompaul | MrMaDSeN: and there is no auth log file entry? |
| 22:21.08 | MrMaDSeN | ompaul: there is.. but only user login name + ip accessed |
| 22:21.20 | MrMaDSeN | not what files is transfered |
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| 22:22.11 | MrMaDSeN | I wanna log all activity for specific user... including folder paths of files in or out |
| 22:22.37 | MrMaDSeN | system wide or if possible on 1 user only |
| 22:22.46 | ompaul | Subsystem sftp /usr/libexec/openssh/sftp-server -l INFO |
| 22:22.52 | ompaul | and the rest might just be in |
| 22:22.57 | ompaul | ... the man page |
| 22:23.49 | MrMaDSeN | tried.. output should be in /var/log/messages |
| 22:23.55 | MrMaDSeN | I dont get none though |
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| 22:24.04 | ompaul | actually that won't workj |
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| 22:28.45 | MrMaDSeN | :( |
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| 22:31.57 | Armand | Any ideas when nvidia-legacy-173 will hit wheezy ? |
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| 22:32.35 | war9407 | Anyone know of a good daemon/cactii or similar that is built to monitor traffic from each IP on a network? I mean I could do it with mrtg, but was wondering if there was something better |
| 22:32.38 | KettleCooked | Playback using aplay is super uneven, pitch-wise. I can play a short wav-file over and over again, getting different sounding results every time. Any hints on what to do? |
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| 22:40.55 | mang0 | I'm currently on Squeeze, and was about to update to wheezy, but a friend tried to convince me to update all the way to sid. I'm a bit paranoid about my system breaking if I use sid though. What would be the advantages, other than cutting edge? |
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| 22:44.43 | Walex2 | war9407: there literally dozens of network traffic monitors. |
| 22:44.49 | gnarface | mand0: 1) don't skip updates. that's not safe. |
| 22:45.38 | mang0 | gnarface: Well if I was to upgrade to sid, I'd do it through wheezy. But I've decided to stick with wheezy. |
| 22:45.40 | gnarface | mand0: if you DO upgrade all the way to sid, you have to upgrade to wheezy first to minimize the risk of breakage. if you are worried about the risk of breakage its not recommended you use wheezy OR sid right now though. (sid ever, really) |
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| 22:45.58 | Walex2 | war9407: Cricket for example is the successor to MRTG. Cactii itself of course. As always when searching for sw consult the database at freecode.com |
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| 22:46.08 | k1l_ | hi, im looking for an image viewer which can show .pdfs and .jpgs (nad maybe .txt) in a slideshow |
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| 22:47.13 | gnarface | mand0: sorry, ignore me those were for mang0 |
| 22:47.28 | mang0 | Heh |
| 22:47.31 | gnarface | mang0: woops sorry just realized i was tab-completing the wrong nick |
| 22:47.40 | mang0 | I was just about to comment on that ;) |
| 22:48.22 | peterrooney | mang0: your concern for your system breaking is NOT paranoia in the case of wheezy and sid |
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| 22:49.27 | Rayyo | Twinkie hoax |
| 22:49.32 | Rayyo | damn fooled me |
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| 22:49.56 | mang0 | peterrooney: So I've been told. I'm not worried about Wheezy, I reckon it's probably stable enough for me :) |
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| 22:52.33 | Rayyo | i GOT HELLA cavity in the bottom of my teeth |
| 22:52.38 | Rayyo | can i paint over it |
| 22:52.39 | Rayyo | to conceal it |
| 22:53.14 | MrMaDSeN | wheezy is out soon? |
| 22:53.22 | ws | hmm, I'm having a problem with wireless lan on a new computer |
| 22:53.30 | ws | (i.e., I don't know if it's a hardware or a software issue) |
| 22:53.49 | ws | the network card is intel centrino ultimate-n 6300. I have the proper driver installed |
| 22:54.10 | ws | I set up an entry in interfaces |
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| 22:54.30 | blackshirt | hello |
| 22:54.31 | ws | but on 'ifup wlan0' it ends up with "No DHCPOFFERS received" |
| 22:54.51 | ws | now, the interesting part -- looking at wireless connections on my router I see the computer |
| 22:55.05 | ws | and when I do 'ifdown eth0' it disappears |
| 22:55.33 | tjiggi_fo | MrMaDSeN, look at Zeitgeist and Activity-Log-Manager. I don't know anything about it because I don't need/use it but it is what you are looking for. |
| 22:55.38 | ws | does someone have an idea what could be the issue? |
| 22:55.42 | blackshirt | how we check if linux container successfully running ? |
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| 22:56.23 | jparkton | \0 hailo |
| 22:57.18 | blackshirt | how we check if linux container successfully running ? |
| 22:57.45 | jparkton | I was wondering something, is debian going to switch over to XFCE desktop? or keeping gnome? |
| 22:58.20 | petemc | both will probably always be available |
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| 22:59.02 | MrMaDSeN | tjiggi_fo: I actually got it workign now |
| 22:59.04 | MrMaDSeN | woohooo |
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| 23:21.12 | mang0 | peterrooney: http://ompldr.org/vZ2VlaA does that look like an okay mirror list for wheezy? Any other mirrrors I should add? |
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| 23:22.03 | dougmencken | guys, I did accidently did something bad; actually, mistyped / and ./ |
| 23:22.11 | dougmencken | now... oh |
| 23:22.13 | ikonia | dougmencken: oh, I thought you where banned in here and all debian resources ? |
| 23:22.25 | ikonia | that's what you where just spouting in #ubuntu as to why you where asking for debian help in there |
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| 23:22.56 | dougmencken | ikonia: I just tried to login, somebody might have benn unbanned me, or ban has benn expired or so |
| 23:23.16 | ikonia | wow, it's that lucky, what a co-incidence |
| 23:24.15 | dougmencken | help, please: Error: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.PermissionsInvalid: The permission of the setuid helper is not correct |
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| 23:24.53 | dougmencken | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) |
| 23:25.45 | dougmencken | also, ssh says me: $ ssh --help |
| 23:25.45 | dougmencken | You don't exist, go away! |
| 23:25.56 | mang0 | Oh, I see, I don't need backports when running wheezy |
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| 23:27.52 | dougmencken | damn, no help |
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| 23:31.47 | ShaggyTwoDope | dougmencken: whats up? |
| 23:32.52 | cardamon | I've been using Firestarter for my firewall. Anyone got any recommendations for alternatives? Its display tends to crash when I leave it running so I can see who's knocking. |
| 23:33.02 | dougmencken | ShaggyTwoDope: I'm in a big pain, even /etc/passwd is screwed up |
| 23:33.24 | ShaggyTwoDope | dougmencken: what'd you run ? |
| 23:33.40 | dougmencken | ShaggyTwoDope: cp -r under root, mistyping ./ and / :( |
| 23:33.53 | dougmencken | cp -r of chroot environment |
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| 23:34.27 | dougmencken | ShaggyTwoDope: any chance to revive? |
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| 23:35.09 | dougmencken | I got the following in /etc/passwd: root::0:0:root:/root:/bin/sh |
| 23:35.09 | dougmencken | unknown:$1$9NEWEfdf$4myGsX18/gCT5uFrVcBMh0:1001:1001:Linux User,,,:/home/unknown:/usr/bin/screen |
| 23:35.14 | dougmencken | (that's all) |
| 23:35.23 | mang0 | http://ompldr.org/vZ2VldA Any mirrors I should add? |
| 23:35.46 | Posterdati | hi |
| 23:35.58 | ShaggyTwoDope | dougmencken: not sure how to undo that |
| 23:36.02 | Posterdati | please I need help to compile ndas driver under wheezy |
| 23:36.13 | ShaggyTwoDope | cp is dangerous as root |
| 23:36.25 | cardamon | mang0: For one, use paste.debian.net |
| 23:36.45 | cardamon | Everything is dangerous as root. |
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| 23:37.21 | mang0 | cardamon: Heh, sorry, next time! |
| 23:37.43 | dougmencken | is there anything in debian that can re-create all these users and so? I can restore mine via passwd, but the others (:*: and :!: ones)... |
| 23:39.26 | ShaggyTwoDope | mang0: that looks fine for wheezy |
| 23:39.43 | mang0 | ShaggyTwoDope: Oky doky, thanks. |
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| 23:40.16 | ShaggyTwoDope | ofc theres the media stuff lol |
| 23:40.27 | mang0 | What sort of media stuff? |
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| 23:40.55 | ShaggyTwoDope | oh, um the mirrors for codecs and junk |
| 23:41.42 | ShaggyTwoDope | mang0: http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ |
| 23:41.55 | mang0 | ShaggyTwoDope: Ah, well I can add them if I need them :) |
| 23:41.57 | ShaggyTwoDope | only if you need it tho |
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| 23:42.17 | ShaggyTwoDope | theres a ton of mirrors out there, (well you know what i mean lol) |
| 23:42.24 | ShaggyTwoDope | try only adding what you need |
| 23:42.29 | mang0 | Yeah |
| 23:42.31 | mang0 | okay |
| 23:42.32 | ShaggyTwoDope | main debian ones being important ofc |
| 23:42.46 | ShaggyTwoDope | but i use mplayer for videos |
| 23:43.02 | ShaggyTwoDope | and adding that repo plus a few packages win32-codecs and junk |
| 23:43.09 | ShaggyTwoDope | gets you playing any ol thing lol |
| 23:43.29 | mang0 | I wonder if SMplayer is in the main debian repos |
| 23:43.37 | mang0 | s'wot I use to play videos. |
| 23:43.46 | ShaggyTwoDope | outta be |
| 23:43.58 | ShaggyTwoDope | but it uses mplayer as backend i believe |
| 23:44.12 | ShaggyTwoDope | and having most non-free codecs will help you play w/e |
| 23:44.19 | ShaggyTwoDope | but bookmark that site |
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| 23:44.34 | ShaggyTwoDope | info for what mirror to add is on first page ^_^ |
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| 23:44.43 | mang0 | Hmmm....looks like some of the packages I use are on that site |
| 23:45.05 | mang0 | ffmpeg |
| 23:45.09 | mang0 | handbrake |
| 23:46.35 | mang0 | SMplayer2 is on there too.... ShaggyTwoDope, if a package is on there, it still might be on the main mirror, right? |
| 23:46.40 | mang0 | main repo* |
| 23:46.54 | ShaggyTwoDope | not exactly |
| 23:47.00 | ShaggyTwoDope | its an unoffical repo |
| 23:47.15 | ShaggyTwoDope | so is anything thats not debian.org |
| 23:47.22 | ShaggyTwoDope | as far as i know >.< |
| 23:47.35 | mang0 | Aah, okay. Weird. SMplayer is in the main repo, SMplayer2 is in the media repo |
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| 23:47.45 | gnarface | mand0: you can answer your own question at packages.debian.org |
| 23:47.57 | gnarface | mand0: or with a command like "apt-cache search ^smplayer" |
| 23:48.02 | mang0 | gnarface: Currently looking there now, and also, mang0* ;) |
| 23:48.07 | mang0 | ah, okay |
| 23:48.09 | gnarface | *sigh* |
| 23:48.14 | gnarface | mand0: sorry again. ignore me |
| 23:48.22 | gnarface | i'm sloppy with the tab key |
| 23:48.28 | dougmencken | oh |
| 23:48.38 | gnarface | ,v smplayer |
| 23:48.39 | judd | Package: smplayer on i386 -- lenny: 0.6.1-1; squeeze: 0.6.9-1; sid: 0.8.0-1; wheezy: 0.8.0-1 |
| 23:49.27 | mang0 | gnarface: haha, you did it again! :P |
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| 23:49.34 | ShaggyTwoDope | lol |
| 23:49.53 | mang0 | Ah, 0.8.0-1 is fine |
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| 23:51.31 | dougmencken | well, users restored; but w/o dbus, apt-get cannot work |
| 23:51.34 | mang0 | gnarface, on packages.debian.org, I've gone to this page: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/ but I can't see a "media" section where I might find video editors |
| 23:51.49 | dougmencken | and I have missed dbus-daemon-launch-helper |
| 23:51.54 | dougmencken | (or maybe replaced it) |
| 23:52.08 | dougmencken | any chance to recover it? |
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| 23:53.04 | mang0 | ah, video, found it |
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| 23:54.37 | dougmencken | 3 lines, pardon: # apt-file search dbus-daemon-launch-helper |
| 23:54.37 | dougmencken | gzip: invalid option -- q |
| 23:54.38 | dougmencken | BusyBox v1.21.0-101-g4919565 (2012-08-08 23:00:39 UTC) multi-call binary. |
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| 23:55.39 | dougmencken | looks like I replaced a lot of bins with chroot's links |
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