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| 00:16.27 | user0 | is there an "updatedb" for debian? |
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| 00:18.05 | LtL | user0: yes, /usr/bin/updatedb |
| 00:18.24 | user0 | that doesnt exist |
| 00:19.43 | sney | You need to install slocate if you want to use it |
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| 00:20.05 | user0 | 'slocate' is the package name? |
| 00:20.08 | LtL | user0: apt-cache search updatedb for some reason you don't have it, run that query. |
| 00:20.25 | sney | ,v slocate |
| 00:20.26 | judd | No package named 'slocate' was found in i386. |
| 00:20.33 | sney | Hrm |
| 00:20.35 | user0 | mlocate? |
| 00:21.12 | sney | Perhaps |
| 00:21.38 | LtL | ,v locate |
| 00:21.40 | judd | Package: locate on i386 -- lenny: 4.4.0-2; squeeze: 4.4.2-1+b1; wheezy: 4.4.2-4; sid: 4.4.2-5; experimental: 4.5.10-2 |
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| 00:21.56 | sney | That'd be it |
| 00:22.18 | user0 | got it |
| 00:22.19 | user0 | thanks |
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| 00:22.50 | LtL | np |
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| 00:43.05 | civillian | can you place a boot partition on a software raid? (md)? |
| 00:43.19 | sney | Yes |
| 00:43.35 | civillian | ok so there is no need for non-md partitions? |
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| 00:53.32 | satwood | is there any downside to putting cron jobs on a drive that mounts after complete bootup and using a symlink ? |
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| 00:57.28 | peterrooney | satwood: yes; cron is guaranteed running before drive is guaranteed mounted |
| 00:58.05 | satwood | peterrooney: even the cron.hourly, cron.daily stuff ? |
| 00:58.06 | peterrooney | consider what could go wrong in anacron is also in place. |
| 00:58.14 | peterrooney | s/ in / if / |
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| 00:59.10 | satwood | i am just thinking of putting only /cron.hourly, cron.daily and my own cron.twentymin |
| 00:59.37 | satwood | would that be a problem still ? |
| 00:59.38 | peterrooney | satwood: I'd put the script in /usr/local/bin/ |
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| 01:00.07 | peterrooney | hold it, wait, are you thinking of having a mountpoint in /etc? |
| 01:00.40 | satwood | peterrooney: not a mount point, but a symlink from /etc/cron.hourly/srcipt1 or /etc/cron.hourly itself to /mount/drive2/someplace |
| 01:01.44 | peterrooney | satwood: this is exactly what /usr/local is made for |
| 01:02.14 | satwood | peterrooney: are you suggesting to create /usr/local/cron.hourly and make a symlink ? |
| 01:02.22 | satwood | symlink in /etc ? |
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| 01:02.53 | peterrooney | satwood: no, /etc/cron.hourly/script1 -> /usr/local/bin/script1 |
| 01:03.24 | satwood | peterrooney: ok |
| 01:03.48 | peterrooney | others may argue well for /opt/bin instead |
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| 01:03.54 | houken | does anyone knows how debian works on newest macbook pro retina |
| 01:03.56 | satwood | peterrooney: i understand that /usr/local/bin is meant for that, but if i just put a symlink to another drive that mounts 3 minutes after booting, what is lost ? |
| 01:05.02 | peterrooney | all @reboot capabilities, and also anacron has three minutes in which to wreak havoc and fail (if installed) |
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| 01:05.46 | sary | houken: hi there , i was trying to figure out how myself as my new macbook pro just aeeived today .. seems like there is no go without refit . |
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| 01:08.57 | sary | as for the hybrid GPU , am not quite sure yet. |
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| 01:10.21 | sary | am i lag! |
| 01:10.36 | sary | someone please Ping! |
| 01:10.57 | satwood | peterrooney: if i ignore @reboot (reading up on anacron) i assume there is no issue then ? |
| 01:12.23 | somiaj | sary: is it a sandybridge hybrid? I think you can get sandy bridge support with the xorg and kernel from squeeze-backports. |
| 01:12.42 | somiaj | but default squeeze won't work and default to vesa |
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| 01:14.18 | houken | somiaj: what do you mean by sandybridg hybrid |
| 01:15.08 | peterrooney | satwood: not out of the woods. at what point in hour do hourly jobs run? 3 min == 1 in 20 chance of miss. What advantage is gained by depending on extra drive - is space on / partition factually limited? |
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| 01:15.40 | somiaj | most the hybrid gpu's i've seen are either sandybridge intel gpu in the cpu, or a mix where you have the sandybridge gpu plus some preformace gpu and the laptop switches between them depending on power savings and application |
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| 01:16.08 | satwood | peterrooney: ok, i can take that miss. i am putting on another drive because i want to have all stuff created by me sitting on it, so that only thing i have to do with a fresh install is create symlinks |
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| 01:16.22 | satwood | i keep doing multiple vms for multiple purposes and don't want to repeat setup work |
| 01:16.45 | somiaj | but I have seen people get ok gpu support from sandybridge from squeeze-backports |
| 01:17.46 | houken | somiaj: I think intel gpu in cpu should get ok, otherwise not only mac but most laptop will not work ok ... |
| 01:19.09 | somiaj | I've seen people get the both amd's and intel's built in gpus to work, but I havent seen much sucess with the swaping between gpu's |
| 01:19.28 | somiaj | and I think you have to choose the inchip one if you have that setup |
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| 01:20.21 | houken | somiaj: yeah, macbook pro retina do have built in gpu |
| 01:20.46 | somiaj | though that does mean crap for 3d preformance, so hopefully that wsan't the intended purpose |
| 01:21.18 | peterrooney | satwood: you still have to edit crontab to make it happen. why not automate the crontab edit, and add a "move scripts to a sane place" at the end? |
| 01:21.21 | houken | but I heard that other firmware, namely display lightness control, and many others works not well with debian |
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| 01:22.29 | satwood | peterrooney: ok, my way of automating crontab edit is to just copy from the drive, becausae I can't have that as symlink (boot time @reboot as yo upointed) |
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| 01:23.46 | sary | somiaj: it runs a Sandy Bridge processor , Intel HD Graphics 4000 |
| 01:24.06 | somiaj | sary: you will be able to us the intel xorg drivers for that, you just need the kernel and xorg from squeeze-backports. |
| 01:24.21 | somiaj | sary: if you could get the chipsets of the other hardware you could look up support |
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| 01:25.01 | sary | somiaj: sounds great , I would like to fly wheezy , or sid on it .. |
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| 01:25.24 | peterrooney | satwood: exactly. have a script copy from the drive to /usr/local/bin and then create the symlink. My automate script for new installs has gotten ornate from time to time - there's no way I'd want to do every step manually. |
| 01:25.51 | sary | somiaj: by others , you mean th Wireless NIC , touchpad .. correct! |
| 01:25.54 | satwood | peterrooney: can you outline some elements of this automation ? |
| 01:26.12 | satwood | satwood: do you also copy all the confs etc. from another drive and put symlinks ? |
| 01:26.35 | satwood | satwood: is the basic debian also automated using the preseed (I had issues with network) |
| 01:26.41 | somiaj | sary: correct |
| 01:26.43 | satwood | peterrooney: that was meant for your, sorry |
| 01:26.55 | satwood | peterrooney: and do you use vms or actual sysmtes ? |
| 01:27.00 | somiaj | sary: use the debian wiki and look up your hardware chipsets there, it is fairly good at figuring out support |
| 01:27.02 | peterrooney | lists of packages to install, sometimes custom/obsolted debs, source code to /usr/src... |
| 01:27.32 | peterrooney | satwood: I used to run debian on powerpc. Getting java right on those things was an unholy pain. |
| 01:27.51 | satwood | peterrooney: ok |
| 01:28.01 | satwood | do u use only one drive ? |
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| 01:29.48 | peterrooney | satwood: no, I've got three internal, some externals USBs on my home machine. at work, variable number of drives depending on which machine is closest. |
| 01:30.13 | satwood | peterrooney: ok, i actually meant not for data, but conf and other files like cron etc. |
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| 01:40.47 | sary | will do somiaj , thanks :) |
| 01:41.55 | somiaj | sary: I think getting efi botting to work on those newer mac's can be an issue for some too. |
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| 01:45.55 | ws | btw., are there any pros of using efi at this moment? |
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| 01:46.40 | ws | I'm not using >2tb hdds yet |
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| 01:54.31 | sary | somiaj: Yeah, tell me about it , mine is from mid/2012 , I was discussing this with a debian fellow user last night , his mac was from 2010 , he mentioned something about resetting his RAM's or removing one , i can't recall the exact method , but then he siad he got it working with efi on wheezy . |
| 01:54.57 | engla | I got my MBA working fine with grub-efi/wheezy |
| 01:55.13 | SiDz | http://pastebin.com/twrBerAt im getting that in boot/dmesg, im pretty sure my hdd is about to broke but id like a confirmation |
| 01:55.45 | SiDz | i have 3 hdd on that box, how can i be sure its the one with debian installed that is broking |
| 01:55.59 | dioz | SMART ? |
| 01:56.02 | sary | eng , thanks for the conformation .. |
| 01:56.02 | dioz | dd |
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| 01:56.23 | SiDz | dioz hummm can't tell |
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| 01:57.08 | sary | this must be the on somiaj wiki.debian.org/MacBookPro |
| 01:57.15 | sary | *one. |
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| 02:02.46 | SiDz | fine i used smartctl and its not the hdd with deb installed on |
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| 02:06.14 | engla | sary: and in my case, using no refit just the Option-key bootloader |
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| 02:14.14 | Shoya_ | hello, greetings, i am having a bit of an issue with irssi and Konsole |
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| 02:15.47 | Shoya_ | although i think isn't the correct channel to ask about that, but i thought maybe someone could help me, how do i make irssi in Wheezy show unicode characters, hiragana, katakana, kanji, asian characters in general and, well everything related to UTF-8 |
| 02:16.21 | Shoya_ | i tried setting UTF-8 as the charset, and term_charset for irssi, and my computer is in that locale |
| 02:16.40 | sney | Shoya for the characters you just need fonts |
| 02:16.49 | Shoya_ | oh |
| 02:16.54 | linlin | hey, ive got a panasonic toughbook with a touchscreen that I like to run debian on...anyone know of a way to calibrate the digitizer in the touchscreen under debian? its definetly off kilter. on windows panasonic offers a utility to do it but there is no linux port of it. |
| 02:17.03 | mrjack | might someone in here test http://www.smart-weblications.com/vserver/ and give me feedback? |
| 02:17.14 | sney | Ttf-vlgothic is a good Japanese one. Unfonts is korean |
| 02:17.57 | Shoya_ | but can it show like all of the characters related to UTF-8? or only jpn/krn? |
| 02:18.24 | Shoya_ | because i want to be able to read what people write in other langs, and also the unicode chars |
| 02:18.30 | linlin | mrjack, the captcha sucks big time |
| 02:18.36 | mrjack | linlin: why? |
| 02:18.55 | mrjack | linlin: how can i make it better? |
| 02:19.12 | mrjack | linlin: i tried to keep it simple |
| 02:19.23 | linlin | hard to read but not impossible |
| 02:19.32 | linlin | had to refresh a couple times...just a pet peeve i guess |
| 02:19.59 | j4jackj | I know that Ubuntu has an answer to the UTF-8 issue. |
| 02:20.06 | Shoya_ | how do you get a quarter of a core? |
| 02:20.11 | Shoya_ | just wondering mrjack |
| 02:20.48 | mrjack | Shoya_: i use cgroups and shares on cpu time |
| 02:21.02 | Shoya_ | oh...k...so right |
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| 02:21.37 | linlin | mrjack no sms yet whats taking so long :) |
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| 02:22.26 | Shoya_ | would this work sney? libghc-utf8-light-dev - Lightweight UTF-8 handling library |
| 02:22.36 | mrjack | linlin: hm? |
| 02:22.46 | mrjack | linlin: shouldn't take long normally.. |
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| 02:33.45 | Shoya_ | hmm wouldn't ttf-mscorefonts-installer work? |
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| 02:56.58 | ws | installing debian took me twice as long as installing openbsd from floppies (and without access to the internet) ~15 years ago :-) |
| 02:57.02 | ws | I guess I'm getting old |
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| 03:03.50 | Ottre | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMLNyTG49_w#t=17m35s |
| 03:03.52 | Ottre | netflix for gnu/linux :) |
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| 04:50.02 | dangayle | So, if I'm running Squeeze and NGINX, should I be worried about the new rootkit thing talked about on ArsTechnica? http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/11/new-linux-rootkit-exploits-web-servers-to-attack-visitors/ |
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| 05:04.38 | peterrooney | dangayle: nobody has yet said what the installation vector is. |
| 05:05.15 | dangayle | So making changes for the sake of changes isn't going to help any |
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| 05:06.36 | peterrooney | dangayle: not until someone says how someone can get an admin to install and load an untrustable kernel module, it won't. |
| 05:07.17 | dangayle | Thanks for your help. This is my first time administering a server, so I thought I'd ask |
| 05:07.31 | peterrooney | Oddly, MS has something right about security - "If a bad guy can get you to run his code on your computer, it's not your computer any more." |
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| 05:11.21 | dangayle | That's pretty scary |
| 05:12.43 | peterrooney | Not scary at all - they have an actually useful article called the ten immutable laws of security, worthwhile reading for admins of any OS. |
| 05:14.29 | LtL | all ten are pure common sense |
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| 05:20.46 | cardamon | How does MS's approach differ from everyone else's on the subject? |
| 05:21.17 | LtL | cardamon: they don't |
| 05:22.05 | LtL | i think it was published on slashdot many months ago |
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| 05:22.25 | nvz | well I learned something. attempted to copy these backup tarballs of wine dirs from one user to another to see if it'd work.. gotta watch for symlinks if you cross users.. |
| 05:22.53 | LtL | and 'iframes' have always been evil in my book :) |
| 05:23.06 | peterrooney | I've been directing users to read it for many many years |
| 05:23.09 | nvz | been sitting here racking my brain why halo runs as one user and not another and its cause of symlinks to my documents |
| 05:23.35 | nvz | stops thinking aloud |
| 05:23.48 | peterrooney | nvz, don't stop |
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| 05:24.11 | peterrooney | it's how I measure my lag |
| 05:24.19 | nvz | heh.. |
| 05:25.07 | nvz | I wasnt aware CX used symlinks to the user dirs.. but now I know and you do too.. |
| 05:25.35 | nvz | the backing up bottles individually in tarballs works fine.. just dont try cross users without checking for and fixing symlinks |
| 05:26.42 | nvz | still haven't quite mastered system wide installs.. seems that can be done by using symlinks as well.. |
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| 05:29.01 | nvz | hmm.. can you symlink to ~/foo and have that work like I think it will? o.O |
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| 05:32.22 | cardamon | Anyone familiar with setting up a dynamic dns? I've got an account with no-ip, and was previously setup, but I've moved and changed locations. I'm pretty sure my port is properly forwarded, but I still can't ssh in using the dyndns yet. It's been so long, I forgot how to set it up. |
| 05:32.59 | fuigus | how long since the dns change? |
| 05:34.13 | cardamon | almost a month by now...but hold on a second, I think I may have a simpler solution...my no-ip address maybe unregistered. |
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| 05:34.59 | cardamon | Ah, no got it. |
| 05:35.01 | cardamon | It's still there. |
| 05:35.27 | cardamon | Hmm, and it is properly set to my current IP too. |
| 05:35.32 | cardamon | So it's pointing at me. |
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| 05:45.05 | cardamon | Double checking the port forward. |
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| 05:45.31 | cardamon | I -can- ssh from inside my network, using the internal IP |
| 05:46.35 | NSAgent | cardamon: Are you trying to ssh from your internal network to the external IP via dns? |
| 05:46.46 | NSAgent | Many routers prevent port forwarding if the originator is inside the network |
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| 05:47.34 | cardamon | NSAgent: Hmm, that might explain it. Would you like to see if you can touch it? It's no risk to me, keypair authentication is required. |
| 05:49.02 | LtL | cardamon: ssh: connect to host 24.30.40.161 port 22: Connection timed out |
| 05:49.29 | cardamon | LtL: Try port 10099. |
| 05:49.40 | cardamon | I don't use 22. Cuts down on noise. |
| 05:50.09 | LtL | cardamon: works, Permission denied (publickey). |
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| 05:50.50 | cardamon | Ah, cool. Then I'm actually working as intended... this stupid Arris just blocks me from traveling outside the network then back in again along the forward |
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| 05:51.11 | cardamon | Thanks dudes. |
| 05:51.16 | LtL | np |
| 05:51.22 | NSAgent | No problem :) |
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| 05:54.14 | cardamon | Any KDE users? I keep getting notifications about updates (from Apper I think)...Can't figure out how to turn it off. |
| 05:54.29 | cardamon | I told Apper to check never. |
| 05:54.51 | cardamon | But I think it refreshes the list every time I update my package list manually or automatically. |
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| 05:56.00 | Leoneof | cardamon: wheezy? |
| 05:56.05 | Devilinside | how to down!oad backtrack apps on bedian |
| 05:56.14 | sney | !bt4-magic |
| 05:56.15 | dpkg | BackTrack is just an operating system. It does not magically turn you into a hacker. It is also offtopic in #debian. Please fulfill your fantasies in #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net. |
| 05:57.10 | LtL | cardamon: aptitude place option? its in the man page |
| 05:57.11 | NSAgent | I installed Backtrack and took down the Gibson |
| 05:58.26 | zophy | i am burning backtrack right now |
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| 05:58.45 | zophy | i want to be l337 |
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| 05:59.51 | zophy | i think Hammas took down the Gibson |
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| 06:01.38 | cardamon | Leoneof: Correct. |
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| 06:02.05 | Leoneof | cardamon: no idea, i've been using wheezy+kde, and got same problem |
| 06:02.30 | Leoneof | cardamon: btw, how's KDE with you? still good and faster? |
| 06:02.55 | cardamon | It's pretty slick, but I'm really at home in xmonad. |
| 06:03.01 | cardamon | Without a DE. |
| 06:03.28 | Leoneof | cardamon: ah good, and using nvidia card? |
| 06:03.45 | cardamon | No, intel on the cpu. |
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| 06:04.42 | Leoneof | i see, i had some problems with my nvidia card and kde before :/ |
| 06:05.37 | zophy | Linus swears at Nvidia |
| 06:06.09 | cardamon | It's an Asus X54C with the Pentium B960. Got it for a song. Surprisingly beasty, but I got it only for dev. |
| 06:06.24 | cardamon | Battery life could be better. |
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| 06:06.58 | cardamon | But that's because I'm pretty sure they designed it with some low voltage AMD chips in mind, then stuck this 2.2GHz intel hambeast in here. |
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| 06:07.36 | cardamon | I took the opportunity to try a more casual UI and loaded up KDE4. |
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| 06:08.06 | cardamon | Hey, if I'm not running an ssh server, but I am connect to ssh servers, do I need sshd running? |
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| 06:08.38 | NSAgent | No, sshd is for accepting connections only |
| 06:10.18 | cardamon | Guh, I'm a moron for having that running this whole time. |
| 06:10.39 | zophy | is there a list of prime numbers ? |
| 06:11.54 | cardamon | Finding them is NP-Complete. |
| 06:14.51 | cardamon | What's the tool for searching package contents? |
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| 06:15.57 | Leoneof | cardamon: i use 'aptitude search <text>' |
| 06:16.00 | zophy | dpkg -L package lists the files that are created when it is installed |
| 06:16.01 | dpkg | No packages found matching package lists the files that are created when it is installed |
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| 06:16.32 | zophy | dpkg shutup |
| 06:16.33 | dpkg | No! You can STFU yourself! The voice of truth cannot be silenced! Oh, except perhaps in China... |
| 06:16.45 | zophy | hrmm |
| 06:16.55 | KsM | 06:57.11 < NSAgent> I installed Backtrack and took down the Gibson |
| 06:17.03 | KsM | You can hack on bedian too |
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| 06:17.35 | zophy | and the Bigson |
| 06:17.39 | KsM | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/34991499/dropped/hackdebian.gif s00p3r 3|173 h4x |
| 06:18.24 | KsM | no you can't hack the bigson on bedian, you'll need negtoo for that |
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| 06:21.54 | KsM | Sorry I must have accidentally hacked you and made you disconnect, NSAgent |
| 06:22.01 | KsM | :( |
| 06:22.20 | NSAgent | It's alright |
| 06:23.03 | zophy | i need to know the largest prime that will fit in 64 characters |
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| 06:23.37 | zophy | 64 nemerals |
| 06:23.40 | scientes | zophy, work backwards for 10^64 |
| 06:23.45 | zophy | 64 numerals |
| 06:23.52 | scientes | *from |
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| 06:24.16 | scientes | using exaustive search method |
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| 06:24.50 | scientes | it will be kinda slow and you need the gnu MPL library, lots of ram and fast 64-bit cpu |
| 06:25.12 | zophy | i was hoping i could google for it |
| 06:25.13 | scientes | although i dont know haskell it seems it would be more straightforward and fast in haskell |
| 06:25.26 | scientes | as haskell binds against the GNU MPL |
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| 06:25.45 | zophy | sbcl lisp ? |
| 06:26.06 | scientes | well you want to use that library, it is the fastest |
| 06:26.21 | cardamon | Will apt-get purge remove local configurations, like dotfiles in your home? |
| 06:26.38 | scientes | actually 128-bits precision (quad math) is enough |
| 06:26.47 | scientes | wait not sure |
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| 06:27.48 | scientes | nah you need MPL |
| 06:28.27 | cardamon | Grr, trying to get sshd to not run. |
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| 06:28.53 | nvz | cardamon: update-rc.d -f ssh remove |
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| 06:29.48 | cardamon | nvz: It didn't see to confirm anything. |
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| 06:30.11 | nvz | cardamon: yeah I dont think it outputs much when just removing symlinks.. i dont recall |
| 06:30.33 | nvz | cardamon: you can check, the symlinks for ssh should be gone now from /etc/rc2.d/ |
| 06:30.43 | nvz | as well as all other runlevels |
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| 06:31.32 | nvz | cardamon: can start it manually with /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 06:31.43 | nvz | or put the links back with update-rc.d ssh defaults |
| 06:32.13 | cardamon | nvz: It does look like it's gone. |
| 06:32.48 | cardamon | starting ssh launches sshd...I want it gone...I just want to be able to use an ssh client on here, I don't wnat to host anything. |
| 06:33.09 | nvz | cardamon: well then remove the openssh-server package altogether |
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| 06:33.28 | cardamon | openssh-client depends on it |
| 06:33.37 | nvz | !depends openssh-client |
| 06:33.39 | nvz | it shouldnt |
| 06:33.53 | cardamon | hmm, no but ssh does. |
| 06:33.58 | dpkg | openssh-client: depends on libc6 (>= 2.11), libedit2 (>= 2.11-20080614-1), libgssapi-krb5-2 (>= 1.10+dfsg~), libselinux1 (>= 1.32), libssl1.0.0 (>= 1.0.1), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4), debconf (>= 1.2.0) | debconf-2.0, adduser (>= 3.10), dpkg (>= 1.7.0), passwd |
| 06:34.08 | cardamon | I guess ssh is just a meta-package |
| 06:34.10 | nvz | !info ssh |
| 06:34.15 | dpkg | ssh: (secure shell client and server (metapackage)), section net, is extra. Version: 1:6.0p1-3 (sid), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 29 kB |
| 06:34.22 | nvz | indeed |
| 06:34.29 | cardamon | Got it then. |
| 06:34.36 | nvz | you pulled in all of ssh when you only wanted openssh-client |
| 06:34.58 | nvz | set openssh-client to manually installed, remove openssh-server and ssh |
| 06:35.13 | cardamon | time for bed it sounds like. |
| 06:35.17 | cardamon | thanks guys. |
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| 07:04.09 | r15 | hello, i have am having dual boot on hpdv6 notebook, debian version 6.0.6. |
| 07:04.29 | r15 | sorry* i mean to say 'i have*' |
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| 07:05.14 | r15 | i am facing issue with the wifi connectivity, reception is very low, and usually i have to sit close to my wifi router while using debian |
| 07:05.19 | r15 | 0a:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01) |
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| 07:12.05 | ChrisH | r15: ask dpkg for BCM4313 /msg dpkg BCM4313 and check what he tells you about checking, asking and doing as a starting point. OK? |
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| 07:21.04 | Armand | Ended up doing a reinstall after a foolish forced update to wheezy.. I've somehow managed to end up with more free space than before. :P |
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| 07:24.34 | r15 | ChrisH: already installed firmware-brcm80211 however same low wifi reception.. i have fedora and redhat6 desktop as well and there is no such issue.. if i boot to widows os of my notebook, wifi reception is good. |
| 07:26.07 | ChrisH | r15: Du you have more then 1 AP? I have 3 at home and sometimes the driver associate to an AP far away instead of the nearest. |
| 07:26.40 | simonlnu | ChrisH: whoah, really? how odd. |
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| 07:28.12 | ChrisH | simonlnu: sometimes, not reproducible. I only have the impression they all do not like the OpenWRT AP and use the others.. but no way to prove it. |
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| 07:31.05 | simonlnu | you'd probably have to leave that one, and one that isn't openwrt, and test test test for statistical reasons, and have dumps to see if it's scanning for certain ap types. i'm fuzzy headed right now if that doesn't make sense please do ignore me :). |
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| 07:33.17 | ChrisH | simonlnu: I plan to rebuild my infrastructure soon, the new FritzBox to be used is already here. But I need to wait until my oncall time is over. I woukd like to understand what happens, too but I will not nail it down. |
| 07:33.46 | simonlnu | *nods* |
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| 07:36.03 | ChrisH | r15: My HP Laptop has Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01) |
| 07:36.16 | ompaul | !bcm |
| 07:36.16 | dpkg | Broadcom Corporation is an integrated circuits supplier. For wireless LAN chipset drivers, ask me about <b43>, <brcmsmac>, <rndis_wlan>, <wl>. For Ethernet controller support, ask me about <bnx2>, <bnx2x>, <tg3>. |
| 07:36.36 | ChrisH | and it dors work very well for me. But I am on unstable with that system. |
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| 07:42.12 | ompaul | ChrisH: I didn't catch the backstory but could it be the blobbies? would a different stick / card work better for you |
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| 07:46.37 | ChrisH | ompaul: I do not have any real problem to solve here. I just wanted to show r15 that Debian is pretty well able to drive such an interface. He has bad links to his AP on Debian only. DeadRed, Fedora, Windows are fine on the same HW. |
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| 07:47.03 | ompaul | ack |
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| 07:58.26 | surfn_ | hi |
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| 08:01.15 | surfn_ | can someone give me a hand with NFS? |
| 08:02.05 | homes | depends on your problem |
| 08:02.41 | surfn_ | ummmm, portmapper doesn't exist, and I don't know how to tell if the server is running.... |
| 08:02.43 | surfn_ | ? |
| 08:02.53 | surfn_ | is that a good description? |
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| 08:03.30 | surfn_ | homes: did that make sense? |
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| 08:06.56 | ChrisH | surfn_: not a good description... show rpcinfo -p and rpcinfo -p NFSSERVER on paste.debian.net and we will get NFS to work |
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| 08:07.46 | surfn_ | rcpinfo yeilds nothing: rpcinfo: can't contact portmapper: RPC: Remote system error - No such file or directory |
| 08:08.31 | surfn_ | sorry ChrisH, does that mean I need to install rcpinfo? |
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| 08:09.00 | ChrisH | surfn_: I did ask for 2 command to be pasted. Please do what I asked for |
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| 08:09.45 | surfn_ | rpcinfo: NFSSERVER: Name or service not known |
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| 08:10.13 | surfn_ | sorry ChrisH, I didn't post them to paste.debian.net, but I didn't think it merited it |
| 08:10.24 | ChrisH | surfn_: you need to replace NFSSERVER with the nfsserver's hostname... |
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| 08:12.01 | ancdix | Hi |
| 08:13.33 | surfn_ | ChrisH: it says rpcinfo: can't contact portmapper: RPC: Remote system error - Connection refused |
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| 08:16.56 | ancdix | I'm having a strange problem with my Debian mailserver (squeeze 6.0.6 x64). Dovecot is stopping with message "Dovecot stopped - time jumped forward". It's a VM running on ESX 5... any ideas ? |
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| 08:18.29 | jagginess | ancdix, since it's a VM, i'd look into that.. |
| 08:19.08 | jagginess | ancdix, (i wouldn't set VM's to a 'save' state, but simply have them shutdown internally, if the physically machine is shutting down) |
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| 08:20.51 | ChrisH | surfn_: OK, then you need to start rpcbind on both sides. NFSServer and NFSClient. /etc/init.d/portmap start ;on nfs-server /etc/init.d/nfs-common start ; /etc/init.d/nfs-*server satrt |
| 08:21.26 | ChrisH | now rpcinfo -p and rpcinfo -p NFSSERVER must show lines. showmount -e NFSSERVER must show the exported filesystems |
| 08:22.02 | surfn_ | -bash: /etc/init.d/portmap: No such file or directory |
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| 08:24.42 | surfn_ | ChrisH: look at this - http://paste.debian.net/211456/ |
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| 08:26.19 | boudiccas | is 'openbox' a DE like MATE, cinnamon, KDE, gnome, etc please? |
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| 08:27.45 | boudiccas | !openbox |
| 08:27.45 | dpkg | Openbox is an X window manager originally based on <Blackbox> 0.65.0, then rewritten in C (no code based on Blackbox since v3.0). http://wiki.debian.org/Openbox http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:FAQ http://www.openbox.org/ #openbox on irc.oftc.net. |
| 08:27.47 | surfn_ | boudiccas: yes, but openbox can also be a part of a DE, as it is in LXDE |
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| 08:34.30 | boudiccas | !lxde |
| 08:34.31 | dpkg | The Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment (LXDE) is available for Debian since Lenny. To install, ask me about <install lxde>. http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE:Questions http://www.lxde.org/ #lxde on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 08:41.08 | surfn_ | ChrisH: have you given up on me? |
| 08:42.02 | ChrisH | surfn_: no... only away from keyboard... had a cup coffee with my wife |
| 08:42.35 | surfn_ | sorry bro, no worries |
| 08:43.57 | ChrisH | surfn_: i did not expect you to copy-and-paste these commands. you need to run them on both or only on nfs server. and you need to run them as root |
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| 08:46.26 | surfn_ | ChrisH: n the first command - sudo: /etc/init.d/portmap: command not found |
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| 08:48.19 | surfn_ | ChrisH: I've also run them each |
| 08:48.29 | surfn_ | similar results to what I pasted really |
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| 08:52.55 | ChrisH | surfn_: what debian version are you on? |
| 08:53.09 | surfn_ | wheezy, raspbian |
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| 08:53.37 | surfn_ | shall I ask elsewhere? |
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| 08:54.18 | ChrisH | and your nfsserver? |
| 08:54.19 | nkuttler | !raspbian |
| 08:54.19 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 08:55.16 | surfn_ | nfsserver is wheezy, raspbian - client is kubuntu and Arch |
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| 08:56.40 | colo-work | how can I debug init on Debian? (I have added a job spec in my inittab that won't start after `telinit q`, and there's no trace as to why it wouldn't) |
| 08:57.52 | ChrisH | surfn_: You need to get portmapper/rpcbind on NFSServer running, then start nfs-server stuff. afterwards a showmount -e NFSSERVER from a client or the server itself must show the exported filesystems. Then you can try so mount. NFS is normally very easy to handle. |
| 08:58.33 | surfn_ | there is no portmapper, its rpcbind now, but I don't know how to install it |
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| 08:59.31 | surfn_ | sorry, it is installed, I don't know how to start rpcbind in place of portmapper |
| 09:01.07 | ChrisH | nfs-common or rpcbind in /etc/init.d ... my rhasberry is ordered |
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| 09:05.33 | ChrisH | colo-work: the job should run or you should see some hints in messages about respawning to fast. I use init q or kill -HUP to ask init for reread its config |
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| 09:06.51 | colo-work | ChrisH, I already did telinit q, and from stracing PID 1, that seems to make init re-examine inittab. |
| 09:06.57 | colo-work | there are NO log messages whatsoever |
| 09:07.41 | surfn_ | ChrisH: sudo /etc/init.d/rpcbind start |
| 09:07.41 | surfn_ | and it started!!! |
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| 09:08.32 | ChrisH | colo-work: remove the execution bits from the line and/or add a typo to force an error upon init rereading inittab |
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| 09:09.31 | nucc1 | hi, i'm using debian 6 as a vm guest, nm-connection-editor segfaults whenever i configure an interface, any idea what could be the problem? |
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| 09:09.58 | colo-work | ChrisH, I made it start /bin/false instead of the other program (ssh w/ port forwarding), and it triggered |
| 09:10.24 | colo-work | open("/dev/console", O_WRONLY|O_NOCTTY|O_NONBLOCK) = 0 |
| 09:10.24 | colo-work | write(0, "Id \"st0\" respawning too fast: di"..., 52) = 52 |
| 09:13.14 | ChrisH | colo-work: pastebin inittab and grep init /var/log/syslog please |
| 09:13.37 | ChrisH | I created an invalid inittab entry and did init q and got Nov 22 10:12:44 clio3 init: Id "S9" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes |
| 09:14.05 | colo-work | I don't know why, but the init log messages don't seem to arrive at syslogd |
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| 09:14.23 | colo-work | st0:2345:respawn:ssh -C -N -l someuser -oBatchMode=yes -oServerAliveCountMax=6 -oServerAliveInterval=5 -oExitOnForwardFailure=yes -D 9595 somehost |
| 09:14.26 | colo-work | is the inittab line |
| 09:15.05 | colo-work | ChrisH, can you check if your syslogd configuration file mentions /dev/console anywhere? |
| 09:15.58 | ChrisH | colo-work: I will... pasted lines are from a (aehm.) Lenny system |
| 09:16.05 | colo-work | hehe |
| 09:16.39 | colo-work | ah |
| 09:16.42 | colo-work | Nov 22 10:16:29 r7 init: /etc/inittab[93]: process field too long |
| 09:17.01 | colo-work | funny. |
| 09:17.11 | ChrisH | newer system just booting up. but there should be no difference... make a script from the line |
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| 09:17.34 | colo-work | it does log correctly, but the log gets spammed with something else that I'll have to sort out first |
| 09:17.39 | colo-work | didn't catch it when I first tried |
| 09:17.59 | ChrisH | colo-work: therefore I asked for grep init syslog |
| 09:18.12 | colo-work | yeah, it doesn't get to syslog though |
| 09:18.20 | colo-work | only to daemon.log |
| 09:18.58 | colo-work | fgrep -c init /var/log/{messages,syslog,daemon.log} |
| 09:18.58 | colo-work | /var/log/messages:0 |
| 09:18.58 | colo-work | /var/log/syslog:0 |
| 09:18.58 | colo-work | /var/log/daemon.log:33 |
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| 09:19.06 | colo-work | *sigh* |
| 09:19.10 | colo-work | one line too much, apparently |
| 09:19.13 | Armand | pwned |
| 09:19.18 | ChrisH | colo-work: anyhow, it looks like you know how to proceed... I need to prepare to leave home and visit a customer |
| 09:19.27 | colo-work | yup, thanks for your help :) |
| 09:19.34 | colo-work | have a nice day! |
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| 09:20.15 | ChrisH | colo-work: yw and thanks. same to you |
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| 09:21.22 | cardamon_ | I have a 30GB / and the rest in /home, and I appear to be up to 92% |
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| 09:22.52 | cardamon_ | 16G of that is stuff from /opt. |
| 09:23.12 | cardamon_ | My mistake for putting so much crap. |
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| 09:30.10 | colo-work | is there any debian tool that helps me generating and submitting patch files against packages debian software? (I download some software via `apt-get source`, edited that source to fix a bug, and would like to have a patch for these changes) |
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| 09:30.36 | dcherniv | colo-work, diff and patch |
| 09:31.08 | colo-work | yeah, I know about those ;) so there's no tool that can automate the process for that against packages debian software, right? |
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| 09:31.32 | surfn_ | hey ChrisH, thanks for all your help. |
| 09:31.42 | surfn_ | it doesn't quite work yet, but I'm close |
| 09:32.17 | engblom | I am at the moment using a very unstable internet connection. The only thing that seems to work OK (but slow) is ssh. All http / ftp traffic is failing for stuff bigger than a couple of Mb. Is there some way I could get apt-get to run through an ssh-tunnel? |
| 09:33.10 | colo-work | will a patch of that form suffice for the Debian bugtracker? http://paste.debian.net/211468/ |
| 09:35.07 | dcherniv | colo-work, yep as long as you patched the original debian source from apt-get source |
| 09:35.10 | formorer | sure (as wishlist) |
| 09:37.06 | yvesD | omg wayland 1.01 was released omgomgomg |
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| 09:40.12 | gour | morning |
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| 09:41.00 | dcherniv | yvesD, meh wayland is not needed |
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| 09:41.23 | gour | i noticed that e.g. when installing phpmyadmin (wheezy), there is support to configure it for apache/lighttpd, but not for nginx, so i wonder if those using nginx install & configure their apps manually? |
| 09:41.44 | gour | (iow, using custom directories) |
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| 09:42.05 | dcherniv | gour, yes. honestly i would've installed phpmyadmin manually even for apache |
| 09:42.29 | gour | dcherniv: ok. ta...i've similar feeling ;) |
| 09:42.44 | gour | and that's what i was doing on arch as well |
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| 09:54.44 | zW | Morning debian lovers. |
| 09:55.04 | zW | I have my own repo that i'm now using for pxe/preseed installs |
| 09:55.41 | zW | The problem is that my sources.list have a Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify line for every mirror. |
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| 09:56.05 | zW | I add my mirror with d-i mirror/http/hostname string in my preseed config. |
| 09:56.26 | zW | But there is no option to add a path to the gpg key or something. What is the best and most accurate way to fix this ? |
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| 10:03.00 | bluesm | Hi. |
| 10:03.13 | bluesm | How to find out what is the specyfication of RAM memory |
| 10:03.16 | bluesm | under Debian ? |
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| 10:04.00 | jelly | bluesm: on a PC, you can use dmidecode or lshw |
| 10:05.58 | paparazzi | dmidecode; lshw; lspci; lsusb |
| 10:06.04 | bluesm | jelly: Is any debian not on the PC ? |
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| 10:08.12 | jelly | bluesm: Debian can run on loads of different hardware. |
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| 10:08.42 | jelly | paparazzi: neither lspci nor lsusb provide insight into RAM |
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| 10:09.07 | bluesm | I see. |
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| 10:09.31 | Leoneof | how to install microsoft fonts in wheezy? |
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| 10:10.10 | linux2 | I'm getting this error every time I start playonlinux "PlayOnLinux is unable to find 32bits OpenGL libraries", but the 32 bit libraries are installed (package "libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386"). Any ideas on how to fix this?. I also noticed this error when I installed libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386: "update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/lib/nvidia because link group glx is broken" |
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| 10:11.10 | Leoneof | thanks! |
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| 10:19.11 | blackshirt | hello |
| 10:19.33 | petn-randall | waves at blackshirt |
| 10:20.20 | dcherniv | linux2, hm check if the libGL is there |
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| 10:20.43 | dcherniv | linux2, not sure where on 64 bit it would be over here its a symlink to fglrx in /usr/lib |
| 10:21.11 | linux2 | dcherniv, libgl is there |
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| 10:21.40 | dcherniv | linux2, is it a symlink to nvidia GL? |
| 10:21.41 | linux2 | dcherniv, it's in "/usr/lib/nvidia/current/" |
| 10:22.04 | dcherniv | linux2, there should be a libgl in /usr/lib that points to nvidia libgl |
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| 10:22.35 | dcherniv | something like that |
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| 10:22.36 | dcherniv | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 33 Nov 18 13:48 libGL.so.1.2 -> /usr/lib/fglrx/fglrx-libGL.so.1.2 |
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| 10:23.38 | blackshirt | petn-randall, i have a problem with linux container in debian, this my output when i start it .. http://paste.debian.net/211475/ .. any suggestion ? |
| 10:23.48 | mentis__ | hi, i have a problem with xcache & acp on lenny... Warning: Cannot load module 'XCache' because conflicting module 'apc' is already loaded in Unknown on line 0 |
| 10:24.18 | dcherniv | mentis__, cant use both at the same time |
| 10:24.25 | dcherniv | mentis__, they both do the same thing |
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| 10:24.29 | mentis__ | i can not simply uninstall xcache, because my yii application gives errors that it is missing |
| 10:24.39 | blackshirt | someone help me |
| 10:24.41 | mentis__ | i thought i i disamble one of those... |
| 10:25.07 | mentis__ | but i donkt know how to disable the extension :/ |
| 10:25.32 | linux2 | dcherniv, there doesn't seem to be any libGL.so.1.2 in /usr/lib/ |
| 10:25.54 | blackshirt | petn-randall: any suggestion ? |
| 10:25.55 | dcherniv | mentis__, its probably loaded in php.ini somewhere, also could be defined in .htaccess |
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| 10:26.15 | dcherniv | linux2, ls -l | grep -i gl /usr/lib/ |
| 10:26.18 | dcherniv | err |
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| 10:26.26 | dcherniv | linux2, ls -l /usr/lib | grep -i gl |
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| 10:27.32 | mentis__ | dcherniv, the case is that apache / php loads those modules automatically ? there is /etc/php5/conf.d/xcache.ini |
| 10:27.43 | mentis__ | but it doesnt have any option to turn it off |
| 10:28.00 | linux2 | dcherniv, http://pastebin.ca/2254089 |
| 10:28.45 | dcherniv | mentis__, mv xcache.ini out of conf.d and restart apache |
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| 10:29.29 | dcherniv | linux2, hm something is broken |
| 10:29.34 | dcherniv | linux2, are you on 64 bit os? |
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| 10:29.44 | linux2 | dcherniv, yep, just installed it |
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| 10:30.08 | linux2 | dcherniv, I could reinstall, but nothing saying the same thing won't happen again |
| 10:30.12 | dcherniv | linux2, did you install 32-bit libs |
| 10:30.22 | linux2 | yep ia32-libs is installed |
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| 10:31.01 | petn-randall | blackshirt: No idea, never worked with lxc |
| 10:31.13 | dcherniv | linux2, is there a lib32 somewhere? check for libgl in there? |
| 10:31.28 | mentis__ | dcherniv, it worked :) thx :) |
| 10:31.35 | dcherniv | mentis__, no problem |
| 10:32.06 | dcherniv | mentis__, look into memcached as well :) |
| 10:32.12 | blackshirt | petn-randall: okey, maybe others here |
| 10:32.23 | blackshirt | abrotman: hello |
| 10:32.40 | linux2 | dcherniv, yeah, no libgl in /usr/lib32 |
| 10:32.46 | linux2 | something is definitely broken with this install |
| 10:33.09 | linux2 | it appeared to be working before I installed ia32-libs |
| 10:34.18 | dcherniv | linux2, you gotta find where your driver installs 32 bit libGL and try to symlink it to /usr/lib32 |
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| 10:35.30 | linux2 | dcherniv, actually I was mistaken, I found 3 different libgl files in /usr/lib32 |
| 10:35.46 | linux2 | dcherniv, made a typo so nothing was showing up |
| 10:35.54 | Ayarsii | Hi to all. Anyone can help me please? I always used the default Debian repo before when I wanted to install something through apt-get. Now I need urgently following setup: |
| 10:36.09 | dcherniv | linux2, where do they point ? |
| 10:36.32 | Ayarsii | I have to upgrade my BIND9 version to 9.8.x but I am using 9.7.x yet. Version 9.8 is in wheezy/testing as I found by google search. Is that correct? |
| 10:36.35 | petn-randall | blackshirt: Can you paste the /etc/inittab of the lxc? |
| 10:36.52 | linux2 | dcherniv, http://pastebin.ca/index.php |
| 10:37.01 | linux2 | dcherniv, http://pastebin.ca/2254093 |
| 10:37.01 | blackshirt | petn-randall: wait a seconds |
| 10:37.06 | Ayarsii | How could I upgrade my BIND9.7.x to BIND9.8.x without danger to corrupt or loose my existing DNS configuration on my machine? I have to do the same thing on my secondary BIND9-server,too |
| 10:37.56 | Ayarsii | can I install BIND 9.8.x by apt-get or do I have manually to download source and compile? How will that affect/disturb my existing DNS configuration? |
| 10:38.08 | dcherniv | linux2, hm... that doesnt seem right. looks like a Mesa libGL not nvidia |
| 10:38.25 | Devastator | Ayarsii squeeze? |
| 10:38.35 | Ayarsii | yes |
| 10:39.05 | Devastator | Ayarsii well, I backported it but I had to do a few changes for it to work with samba, if that's your goal |
| 10:39.07 | dcherniv | linux2, i dont know, i dont have 64 bit install cant really tell |
| 10:39.24 | Ayarsii | Devastator: yes, that's it, because Samba4 needs that. |
| 10:39.32 | Ayarsii | Which repo did u use? |
| 10:39.36 | dcherniv | linux2, i would try wiping the nvidia packages and trying the driver from nvidia site |
| 10:39.53 | Devastator | !tell Ayarsii about ssb |
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| 10:40.05 | linux2 | dcherniv, I tried that originally, but I can't get the 32-bit libraries from that to work either |
| 10:40.10 | Devastator | Ayarsii look at bot instructions for backport it |
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| 10:40.26 | blackshirt | petn-randall: this my container inittab, http://paste.debian.net/211480/ |
| 10:40.33 | Devastator | Ayarsii keep in mind you will still need to do a few changes |
| 10:40.35 | linux2 | dcherniv, they install in the wrong location, and copying them to the "correct" location in /usr/lib32 doesn't do anything |
| 10:40.49 | linux2 | dcherniv, guess I'll do a fresh install again and see what happens |
| 10:40.51 | Ayarsii | Devastator: bot instructions ? |
| 10:41.17 | euro | What is Rootkit Linux Snakso on Debian Squeeze? |
| 10:41.17 | Devastator | Ayarsii yes, didn't you receive a dpkg private message? |
| 10:41.18 | Ayarsii | Devastator: which mods are needed afterwards? and will that affect somehow my existing BIND9 configuration? I don't want to mess anything up, cause its my productive DNS serveer |
| 10:41.48 | Ayarsii | ah I got the priv msg, thx |
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| 10:42.41 | euro | Is it a Squeeze problem or a Nginx problem? |
| 10:42.42 | blackshirt | petn-randall: this my container inittab, http://paste.debian.net/211480/ |
| 10:43.02 | Devastator | Ayarsii samba needs dlopen, original config comes without it. After you enable it, it won't build, then you have to edit Makefile.in, remove dlzexternal and recompile |
| 10:43.35 | Devastator | Ayarsii I'm heading to work now, I explain in details later, can you wait? |
| 10:44.10 | Ayarsii | yes of course |
| 10:44.13 | Ayarsii | thx so far |
| 10:44.48 | petn-randall | blackshirt: From the docs, I see you need to modify a few files: http://lxc.teegra.net/#_etc_inittab |
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| 10:47.39 | sepisultrum | What's the canonical way to set the xkboption in debian squeeze? |
| 10:47.47 | blackshirt | petn-randall: i would try |
| 10:48.08 | sepisultrum | I've set it in /etc/default/keyboard but even after a reboot, it does not seem to have any effect |
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| 10:50.29 | dcherniv | sepisultrum, /etc/default/keyboard works in wheezy here |
| 10:51.13 | dcherniv | sepisultrum, http://pastebin.com/UNsivLF0 |
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| 10:53.40 | sepisultrum | dcherniv: http://pastebin.com/rw1j8uYh this is my version |
| 10:54.38 | sepisultrum | hmm, I guess I'll have to move to wheezy then :) |
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| 10:55.24 | woshty | hi, what do i need to display pdfs in chromium? it just asks me for permission to run mozplugger and then fails |
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| 10:55.57 | blackshirt | petn-randall: i get this output, http://paste.debian.net/211484/ |
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| 10:56.44 | petn-randall | blackshirt: Without knowing what you changed, I'm guessing you're still missing some changes. |
| 10:57.14 | blackshirt | petn-randall: i would paste my inittab |
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| 10:59.20 | dcherniv | sepisultrum, should work in squeeze too |
| 10:59.31 | blackshirt | petn-randall: this my container inittab, http://paste.debian.net/211485/ |
| 11:00.23 | dcherniv | sepisultrum, can u set the layout with setxkbmap |
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| 11:01.18 | sepisultrum | dcherniv: yeah, I've now set it using setxkbmap :) |
| 11:01.28 | blackshirt | petn-randall: any suggestion ? |
| 11:01.29 | petn-randall | blackshirt: Please *read* the docs I gave you. It says to comment out *all* getty entries, and a lot more. |
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| 11:02.19 | sepisultrum | dcherniv: the problem is that my keyboard has a buggy ps/2->USB converter which occasionally resets. After such a reset the setxkbmap options will be gone :( |
| 11:02.49 | petn-randall | blackshirt: It won't run before you follow all steps in the docs. |
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| 11:03.39 | dcherniv | sepisultrum, hm |
| 11:05.33 | blackshirt | petn-randall: okey ... so, in part 5.2 of the docs, what the scripts should be changed ? |
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| 11:06.43 | SpaceA | Hello - I was wondering if there was a daily build image with a newer kernel? I really want to get debian going on my fairly new rig but most of my components are support only after 3.4. Anything older causes the sound module to behave poorly and sudden reboots |
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| 11:07.46 | dcherniv | SpaceA, as far as i know no |
| 11:07.58 | woshty | nvm .. fixed it, needs_xembed missing in mozpluggerrc |
| 11:08.23 | SpaceA | dcherniv, any debian based distros with latest kernel? apart from ruddy buntus |
| 11:08.55 | dcherniv | SpaceA, you can build your own |
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| 11:09.12 | petn-randall | SpaceA: Just install a backports kernel, reboot, and carry on from there on. |
| 11:09.30 | petn-randall | SpaceA: Oh wait, backports is 3.2, sorry |
| 11:09.35 | SpaceA | petn-randall, I have to install the system first to install a newer kernel dont i? |
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| 11:10.37 | petn-randall | SpaceA: This guy used to have custom images with new kernels: http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
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| 11:11.17 | SpaceA | petn-randall, 3.2 is his highest. How do people here feel about PureOS? |
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| 11:12.27 | wols | we don't. this is a debian only channel. and you can always install a system, you don't need things like sound for that, and then upgrade the kernel to whatever you need |
| 11:12.43 | wols | for what hardware device do you need 3.4 exactly? |
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| 11:12.58 | dcherniv | SpaceA, as long as your network card is recognised by old kernel what wols said |
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| 11:13.23 | HexaByte | Hi all. I'm looking to install vlc from backports for 6.0.6, but would like to see what version it is first. Is there a command line utility which will show me the version of package before i install it? I would install it like: apt-get -t squeeze-backports install vlc and then use dpkg -s vlc-nox |
| 11:13.41 | wols | apt-cache policy <packagename> will tell you |
| 11:13.51 | SpaceA | dcherniv wols the problem is when I boot I get a bunch of messages from snd_hda_intel - and when I do boot the system - the thing randomly reboots. |
| 11:14.13 | HexaByte | wols: tnx, will try |
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| 11:14.42 | wols | SpaceA: do a recovery boot,e.g don't run X and the like and upgrade your kernel there. again: what hardware exactly does need 3.4? how do you know you need 3.4? |
| 11:14.50 | petn-randall | SpaceA: The lazy option would be to install the system on a machine that boots with 3.2, then just build your shiny new kernel with make-kpkg, then put the HDD back into your new rig. |
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| 11:15.07 | HexaByte | wols: is there a way to make apt-cache use squeeze-backports? |
| 11:15.18 | wols | SpaceA: you can even install a new kernel when installing debian itself. e.g. at the time before you reboot you can easily install another kernel if you want to |
| 11:15.21 | Shadow` | HexaByte: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 11:15.41 | SpaceA | wols, because any distribution that comes with 3.4 and above doesnt give me that problem |
| 11:15.41 | SpaceA | wols, that would be fantastic! how can I do that? |
| 11:16.14 | wols | HexaByte: no |
| 11:16.20 | wols | Shadow`: how would that help him? |
| 11:16.35 | HexaByte | Shadow`: i've added backports using this line "deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main" to: /etc/apt/backports.list |
| 11:16.43 | wols | Shadow`: first check if 3.4 is available anywhere in a debian repo. check backports |
| 11:17.04 | SpaceA | wols assuming that was for e - but I can use the liquorix kernl |
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| 11:17.14 | SpaceA | me* |
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| 11:17.41 | wols | SpaceA: you can. totally unsupported tho. e.g if you have problem neither #debian nor #liqurix (or whatever their channel is) will help |
| 11:17.57 | wols | ,kernels |
| 11:17.58 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.6-trunk-686-pae (3.6.6-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.32-1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.32-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.32-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-46); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-29) |
| 11:18.11 | HexaByte | i'll just go and search backports on the web then |
| 11:18.24 | SpaceA | wols I understand - that kernel has treated me well - anyway how would I go about doing it? |
| 11:18.48 | wols | get the .deb of that kernel and install it with dpkg -i <kernel deb file>. then you're done |
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| 11:23.19 | SpaceA | wols, umm after the graphical installer is done - doesnt the system just reboot? |
| 11:23.33 | bluesm | Where I can find specyfication about RAM. |
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| 11:26.36 | wols | SpaceA: from what I remember, you have to press enter or such to reboot. you don't need to press enter but you can press ctrl+alt+f2 and go to a console that way before you reboot |
| 11:27.03 | wols | bluesm: run decode-dimms. it _might_ work. what do you need the spec for? |
| 11:28.28 | HexaByte | wols: if you are si kind or _any1_ else, please help me install vlc form backports. I think i did, but i still get old version as comes with squeeze. I see new version in backports using web search: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze-backports/vlc-nox, i've added backports as another repository and installed it with: apt-get -t squeeze-backports install vlc-nox, but still when i check the version it seems to install old vlc. Details here: |
| 11:28.29 | HexaByte | http://pastebin.com/8XvwSUn3 Please advise what i did wrong. |
| 11:28.58 | wols | ,versions vlc-nox |
| 11:29.00 | judd | Package: vlc-nox on i386 -- lenny: 0.8.6.h-4+lenny3; lenny-security: 0.8.6.h-4+lenny3; squeeze: 1.1.3-1squeeze6; squeeze-security: 1.1.3-1squeeze6; squeeze-backports: 2.0.3-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2.0.3-3; sid: 2.0.4-1; wheezy-multimedia: 1:2.0.4-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 1:2.0.4-dmo2 |
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| 11:29.04 | SpaceA | wols, do I have to chroot into the system or does it automatically add it to the system? |
| 11:29.47 | drhouse123 | hi! what will happen if I don't create mypackage.install file (with any content) in debian/ while packaging ? |
| 11:30.30 | sepisultrum | How can I prematurely move to wheezy? Is it possible to upgrade and then once wheezy is released, stay with this version? |
| 11:30.31 | wols | HexaByte: you got an error. see line 217 of your paste |
| 11:31.07 | HexaByte | i can fix that, even thou it installed OK as i've removed VLC previously, i'll fix it and reinstall |
| 11:31.33 | wols | HexaByte: it has nothing to do with vlc but with dbus. generate this ID as described in the manapge the error refers to |
| 11:31.40 | HexaByte | yes |
| 11:31.46 | HexaByte | exactly i;m doing it now |
| 11:32.05 | wols | SpaceA: good idea, yes |
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| 11:32.21 | wols | SpaceA: should be /target or such where you need to chroot to |
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| 11:32.58 | SpaceA | wols, nvm I cant find a newer kernel - apparently liquorix has its set of problem - it makes the system run pretty hot apparently |
| 11:32.59 | woshty | sepisultrum: by modifying sources.list and yes |
| 11:33.06 | wols | sepisultrum: you can move to wheezy right now if you want to and then continue to run wheezy (with the errors it still has now fixed) |
| 11:33.27 | wols | SpaceA: compile your owhn kernel then? |
| 11:33.41 | sepisultrum | woshty: so I can just change all references from squeeze to wheezy. cool |
| 11:33.41 | wols | SpaceA: tho you still haven't answered my question so I will stop until you do |
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| 11:33.56 | SpaceA | wols, what question? |
| 11:33.56 | wols | sepisultrum: yes. in your sources.list. then run a dist-upgrade |
| 11:34.07 | woshty | sepisultrum: basically, yes, but there is no updates/volatile or security yet |
| 11:34.09 | sepisultrum | wols: cool! Thanks |
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| 11:34.32 | wols | < wols> for what hardware device do you need 3.4 exactly? < wols> again: what hardware exactly does need 3.4? how do you know you need 3.4? |
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| 11:35.13 | sepisultrum | woshty: thanks :) |
| 11:35.17 | bluesm | wols: Just want to check all specyfication of my RAM |
| 11:35.55 | imordey | hello.. I have a weird problem with Lenny running on a proxmox host. Whenever I do an apt-get install it hangs the box and maxes the CPU out. Any idea? |
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| 11:35.59 | SpaceA | wols, I did answer that. the problem is when I boot I get a bunch of messages from snd_hda_intel - and when I do boot the system - the thing randomly reboots. Its the sound card. |
| 11:36.09 | petn-randall | HexaByte: Did you do an apt-get update after adding the backports repo? |
| 11:36.11 | sepisultrum | woshty: so should I just comment the lines for updates and security out? |
| 11:36.27 | HexaByte | petn-randall: i think i did, will do it again, tnx for the hint |
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| 11:36.31 | petn-randall | HexaByte: What does apt-cache policy vlc-nox show you? |
| 11:36.34 | woshty | sepisultrum: yes, i did that |
| 11:36.52 | sepisultrum | cool |
| 11:37.16 | woshty | sepisultrum: you can adjust and uncomment them once wheezy is stable and the repositories are set up |
| 11:37.26 | HexaByte | petn-randall: wols here is the reinstall without error: http://pastebin.com/mB4dVu7V just doing the paste of policy now |
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| 11:38.07 | HexaByte | policy paste: http://pastebin.com/whS2wiHw |
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| 11:38.20 | HexaByte | will try remove and install after apt-get update now again |
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| 11:39.06 | eptalon | heyas |
| 11:39.16 | petn-randall | HexaByte: You don't have squeeze-backports in your sources.list |
| 11:39.23 | eptalon | I am looking for something that can perform ocr, on a pdf document. |
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| 11:39.28 | woshty | sepisultrum: actually you should uncomment them after wheezy is stable or you wont get any update for some time - and you might want to use apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 11:39.30 | eptalon | (debian sid) |
| 11:39.31 | HexaByte | nope, the same, i still get old VLC, not from backports http://pastebin.com/1f3YCvSA :-( maybe i installed backports repo wrong. :-/ : |
| 11:39.37 | petn-randall | HexaByte: You can see that by checking what apt-get update says |
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| 11:40.19 | HexaByte | petn-randall: i have it in file called backports.list. I guess i must have it in sources.list then |
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| 11:40.51 | HexaByte | i fought it doesn't matter as long as the file ends with .list |
| 11:41.01 | petn-randall | HexaByte: ... yeah. Where does it say that backports.list is read? |
| 11:41.10 | HexaByte | :-) my bad |
| 11:41.14 | HexaByte | tnx for pointing it out |
| 11:41.15 | petn-randall | HexaByte: It does, if you have it in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ |
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| 11:41.22 | HexaByte | i'm moving it there now |
| 11:41.37 | HexaByte | yep now it shows backports :-) |
| 11:41.38 | colo-work | does anyone in here run an Intel Ivy Bridge processor with its IGP on Squeeze? if so, how well does it work? |
| 11:41.43 | HexaByte | Thank you ! |
| 11:41.45 | crane_work | hey ho, how can i tell ntpd only to listen on specific interfaces? |
| 11:41.53 | petn-randall | HexaByte: You're welcome, any time again :) |
| 11:42.17 | crane_work | i've got a lot of vpn tunnels and it's listen on everyone of them |
| 11:42.44 | crane_work | i wrote alrede into the ntp.conf a "listen on 1.2.3.4" but thats not working |
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| 11:50.04 | SmokeyD | hey everyone. Is it possible if I run fsck.ext4 and it reports some problems, to check which files are actually located and the problem locations |
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| 11:54.37 | eptalon | heyas |
| 11:55.05 | eptalon | if I want to use debian to do ocr, what's the recommended application? |
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| 11:55.10 | jimcooncat | looking to install vbox guest additions into wheezy, I've tried several ways already |
| 11:55.40 | eptalon | I tried tesseract, but the result wasn't that convincing. |
| 11:55.44 | yeats | jimcooncat: a wheezy guest? |
| 11:56.12 | jimcooncat | yeats: yes, wheezy guest, stable on host |
| 11:56.27 | yeats | jimcooncat: what have you tried that didn't work? |
| 11:56.40 | wols | jimcooncat: and what were the error(s) |
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| 12:00.24 | jimcooncat | I tried installing the *guest* packages. When that didn't seem to work, I purged them. I then installed the .iso package. Virtualbox couldn't find it, so I copied it to the host. I then was able to run Install Guest Additions from the menu. CPU on guest went up, but no affect. Still nothing after a guest reboot. |
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| 12:01.32 | yeats | jimcooncat: the guest additions installer should have opened a terminal window - did you record the messages from that? |
| 12:01.34 | jimcooncat | I'm not seeing an error, but the session information dialog says the guest additions are not detected |
| 12:02.02 | jimcooncat | yeats. it did not open a window |
| 12:02.07 | babilen | jimcooncat: Did you read the docuementation (or even description) of the guest addition package? It merely provides the .iso from which you can actually install them -- Did you run the script? |
| 12:02.32 | babilen | just uses KVM+virt-manager and newer really understood what the guest additions are for anyway :) |
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| 12:03.17 | yeats | babilen: I mainly use them for the X11 additions, allowing desktop integration with the host (fwiw) |
| 12:03.53 | babilen | yeats: ta |
| 12:04.01 | jimcooncat | babilen: I read what I could but there's not much out there. The gui is all I have, it supposedly ran the script |
| 12:04.26 | jimcooncat | yeats: that's all I want is the X11 stuff |
| 12:04.29 | yeats | jimcooncat: if you didn't see the terminal window, the script didn't run |
| 12:04.33 | babilen | jimcooncat: So, you installed the kernel module (installed virtualbox-guest-dkms) and then installed virtualbox-guest-utils ? |
| 12:04.35 | Shadow` | because guest additions for windows guests give directx GPU acceleration (sortoff) |
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| 12:05.12 | yeats | jimcooncat: try 'apt-get install virtualbox-guest-x11' from within the guest |
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| 12:08.03 | jimcooncat | yeats, it says it's installed, and xfce's display applet shows VBX |
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| 12:10.59 | kian | when i install a software in debian 6 where that install / where can i find the installation folder of a program |
| 12:11.51 | babilen | kian: Run "dpkg -L PKG" -- that will list all files that were installed from package PKG |
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| 12:12.06 | babilen | dpkg: tell kian -about fhs |
| 12:12.07 | woshty | kian: programs (usually) do not have separate installation folders like under windows |
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| 12:12.54 | babilen | kian: I would recommend to read the FHS (file hierarchy standard) to understand how the filesystem is structured in Debian (and other linuxes) |
| 12:13.28 | jimcooncat | thanks folks, I have to go |
| 12:13.41 | kian | I just want directory pass |
| 12:13.52 | kian | path |
| 12:14.14 | babilen | kian: It is also discussed on http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.filesystem-hierarchy.html |
| 12:14.24 | babilen | kian: You want path of *what* exactly? |
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| 12:14.45 | kian | where program installed |
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| 12:15.32 | dcherniv | kian, which 'programname' |
| 12:15.34 | boudiccas | kian: do 'whereis foo' in a terminal where foo is thename of yopur programme |
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| 12:16.34 | babilen | kian: We mentioned already that "a program" is not installed in a single place, but its files are placed in different areas of the filesystem based on what the file is. Configuration files, for example, are saved in /etc and "normal" executable in /usr/bin |
| 12:17.14 | babilen | kian: Which program are you interested in? Do you want to find the executable of it? |
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| 12:21.19 | boudiccas | where do i change the colour of the background of the desktop in LXDE please? i've looked through all the settings i can find but i dont see it |
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| 12:29.24 | till__ | anyone happen to know how i set an apt mirror via preceed.cfg? |
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| 12:31.37 | kian | I installed debian 6 now but there is not windows option in the grub menu! how to add windows to this menu? |
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| 12:35.20 | boudiccas | kian: windows? what windows? |
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| 12:35.52 | kian | I have windows 7 too but it is not in grub menu |
| 12:35.57 | boudiccas | kian: do you mean 'microsoft windows'? if so, forget it, you'll have to reboot to use it |
| 12:36.20 | niels1 | kian, install os-prober and then run update-grub |
| 12:36.28 | boudiccas | kian: ah, right, you're talking about grub0menu. you should've said |
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| 12:37.17 | boudiccas | kian: you did say, and i missed it, sorry |
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| 12:39.48 | kian | thank you it worked |
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| 12:54.52 | eni23 | someone knows why /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/ does not triggers "post-down" |
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| 12:58.47 | bluenemo | hi guys. i'm very stupid and i hate myself. i just did a stupid rsync command and changed uid and gid for the /root/.ssh directory. no sudo or so. fail. i can login with another user (that has basicly been restricted to only run one ror app). any idea how i can get stuff back? its a dedicated server m( |
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| 13:00.11 | eni23 | bluenemo: do you have access via serial console? |
| 13:00.47 | bluenemo | i was hoping for no down time. but i guess i can forget that.. well yeah. i'm with hetzner in germany, they have this console thingy |
| 13:00.47 | nevyn | bluenemo: do you have the root password? |
| 13:00.57 | nevyn | no su? |
| 13:01.31 | bluenemo | no, no M( |
| 13:01.32 | bluenemo | ARGH |
| 13:01.43 | eni23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:01.53 | eni23 | there you have root access |
| 13:02.19 | bluenemo | yeah? via lara you mean? |
| 13:02.59 | eni23 | yes via lara you got root. but idk sometimes they hetzer-guys are slow with the lara-thing |
| 13:03.37 | xy | Is there an automated way to install all packages installed on one debian installation on a second debian installation? |
| 13:03.38 | bluenemo | i'm not in a hurry, server is still running. damit if i would have written that monit file better :P |
| 13:03.50 | bluenemo | xy, apt-cahce show apt-clone |
| 13:04.27 | xy | bluenemo: N: Unable to locate package apt-clone |
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| 13:04.51 | eni23 | bluenemo: but why you dont have root-access |
| 13:04.56 | boudiccas | ,v apt-clone |
| 13:04.57 | judd | Package: apt-clone on i386 -- sid: 0.2.2; wheezy: 0.2.2; experimental: 0.3 |
| 13:05.00 | bluenemo | hm strange. i'm on ubuntu 12, maybe its not there yet in debain stable. |
| 13:05.20 | boudiccas | no, its in sid or wheezy |
| 13:05.23 | bluenemo | eni23, rsync to root directory. uid and gid of .ssh are not 1 ;) |
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| 13:05.36 | bluenemo | (aeh 0 sorry) |
| 13:05.36 | xy | iirc the dpkg had some factoid about it, but i cannot find it anymore |
| 13:05.45 | kian | how to active wireless in debian 6? |
| 13:05.52 | eni23 | bluenemo: uhm that's bad |
| 13:06.06 | bluenemo | eni23, for lara to login i have to have a root pw set dont i? |
| 13:06.10 | bluenemo | if yes thats bad :( |
| 13:06.52 | boudiccas | bluenemo: contact hertzner support and ask them to restorew it for you, after all, you pay for support dont you? |
| 13:07.23 | bluenemo | i dont know if they are allowed to. as far as i know they are not allowed to actually touch the OS |
| 13:07.30 | bluenemo | but i'm writing an email yes ;) |
| 13:07.42 | bluenemo | if everything fails i have to reboot and reset the root pw from init 1 |
| 13:07.55 | bluenemo | i can do that at night or so |
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| 13:09.20 | eni23 | bluenemo: nah for lara you need to know root-password |
| 13:09.28 | mrjack | might someone in here test http://www.smart-weblications.com/vserver/ and give me feedback? |
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| 13:09.40 | bluenemo | argh |
| 13:09.41 | eni23 | bluenemo: but not for the rescue-system. |
| 13:09.51 | bluenemo | yeah thats propably the fastest solution |
| 13:09.56 | eni23 | there you can set it new and change uid's |
| 13:10.00 | bluenemo | yes |
| 13:10.02 | mrjack | eni23: check out my url, it is nice and you have vnc remote console |
| 13:10.02 | bluenemo | chroot.. |
| 13:10.02 | kian | how to active gnome network manager |
| 13:10.03 | bluenemo | good idea |
| 13:10.26 | eni23 | mrjack: which url? |
| 13:10.41 | mrjack | http://www.smart-weblications.com/vserver/ |
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| 13:10.52 | eni23 | bluenemo: http://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Hetzner_Rescue-System |
| 13:11.12 | eni23 | mrjack: this wont work with hetzner |
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| 13:11.27 | mrjack | eni23: ?! |
| 13:11.41 | bluenemo | eni23, i know the rescue system of them by heart. best thing ever :) i love hetzner too btw ;) |
| 13:11.48 | mrjack | eni23: it is not hetzner ;) |
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| 13:11.55 | mrjack | eni23: just try it |
| 13:12.06 | bluenemo | mrjack, was just looking for people to test his new software i think ;) |
| 13:12.21 | mrjack | bluenemo: yes |
| 13:12.23 | eni23 | mrjack: nah im fine with my servers |
| 13:12.31 | mrjack | eni23: hetzner is crap |
| 13:12.44 | mrjack | eni23: i know that, because i bought his first datacenter |
| 13:12.49 | mrjack | eni23: i know martin hetzner personally... |
| 13:12.56 | eni23 | mrjack: yeah shure |
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| 13:13.17 | eni23 | mrjack: you know how big they are? |
| 13:13.28 | mrjack | eni23: as said, i know martin personally... |
| 13:13.29 | bluenemo | i dunno about martin hetzner himself but i have had several servers with several businesses always at hetzner, always premium support, always fast, always great admin that really know there stuff |
| 13:13.54 | mrjack | bluenemo: well, you're lucky then ;) |
| 13:14.01 | bluenemo | i would never rent anywhere else anymore. i had one customer with domainfactory, they are evil. i was going MAD |
| 13:14.09 | eni23 | jup really great support. this autumn they made a party for all bigger customers with free drinks and everything. was great |
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| 13:14.21 | bluenemo | ah ok |
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| 13:14.25 | bluenemo | why wasnt i invited :P |
| 13:14.30 | mrjack | lol |
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| 13:14.43 | eni23 | they even paid for the hotel and train |
| 13:14.46 | bluenemo | wow |
| 13:14.53 | bluenemo | ok we are devolute.org, maybe we are not that big ;) |
| 13:15.48 | eni23 | im managing 138 roots for a hosting company there |
| 13:16.04 | mrjack | eni23: that is not much |
| 13:16.19 | mrjack | eni23: i'ts peanuts ;-P |
| 13:16.26 | eni23 | mrjack: i know but enough for the party :) |
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| 13:19.56 | n1md4 | hello. i've iscsi shares remotely mounted as /dev/sdf (for example), this then has an lvm stack. I'm wanting to power the san off, but need to close lvm down on said device(s) first. |
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| 13:20.30 | n1md4 | what's the correct approach to locally stop, but not remove, an lvm stack? |
| 13:20.36 | mrjack | bluenemo: you can give it a try if you want, it is free for 12 hours |
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| 13:21.21 | eni23 | mrjack: are those bullet-proof servers ? |
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| 13:21.34 | eni23 | hehehe |
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| 13:24.11 | mrjack | eni23: supermicro servers |
| 13:24.21 | mrjack | eni23: no desktop amd crap as hetzner uses ;) |
| 13:24.35 | eni23 | mrjack: nah i mean are they bulletproof? |
| 13:25.02 | mrjack | eni23: as they are virtual, i think a physical bullet won't have any effect, so yes ;) |
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| 13:26.25 | eptalon | hello |
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| 13:27.54 | eptalon | it looks like debian (or rather linux) is not good at optical character recognition. |
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| 13:28.40 | eni23 | eptalon: which ocr programm do you use? |
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| 13:30.06 | eni23 | eptalon: tesseract is pretty good |
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| 13:31.14 | eptalon | eni23: I tried with tesseract, gocr, and there was a third. |
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| 13:31.32 | eptalon | eni23: none of them gave good results. |
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| 13:31.45 | eni23 | eptalon: which language? |
| 13:32.07 | eptalon | eni23: English, perhaps with "layout" (that is some logo) |
| 13:32.26 | eptalon | but even if I only select the "text block" |
| 13:32.30 | eni23 | baad question, but good image quality? |
| 13:33.18 | eptalon | eni23: pdf, I think scanned at 300 dpi |
| 13:33.52 | eni23 | should be enough |
| 13:33.53 | n1md4 | found out how to disable the lvm stack, lv|vg|pvchange is the way to go. |
| 13:34.19 | eptalon | eni23: "from naked eye", text is pretty clear cut. |
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| 13:34.53 | eptalon | words/characters tesseract gives are rather random. |
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| 13:59.04 | safridzal | can anyone tell me about iceweasel vs firefox? I want to know: if i'm using iceweasel, is there any probability that iceweasel cannot do what firefox can do? google/ddg cant tell me about it.. (well, i'm still using firefox right now) |
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| 14:00.12 | babilen | !tell safridzal about why iceweasel |
| 14:00.41 | babilen | safridzal: Essentially: Iceweasel *is* Firefox apart from the name. You can install newer Iceweasel versions from http://mozilla.debian.net if you want |
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| 14:01.02 | eni23 | safridzal: actually its the same but the rights of the name ar not free so debian use iceweasel |
| 14:01.51 | Trewas | safridzal: it uses different useragent string so some sites which are too cranky about them may not work like the same version of firefox |
| 14:01.56 | eni23 | safridzal: imho this was a bad idea. im using ff from mozilla. |
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| 14:03.41 | safridzal | ok, so they're just the same, except name and user agent. well, maybe its better for me to start using iceweasel :D great, thanks babilen eni23 Trewas |
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| 14:04.31 | boudiccas | i found that ff/iceweasel kept throwing out erros, so now i use chromium with no problems |
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| 14:05.36 | safridzal | boudiccas: well, imo, FF still have better plugins :D |
| 14:05.44 | eni23 | safridzal: better use ff, its more actual and if you install it in an user-directory it updating itself |
| 14:06.52 | CissWit | mozilla.debian.net has last versions of iceweasel and you can even use the beta and aurora versions, what more actual do you need ? |
| 14:06.58 | eni23 | boudiccas: um then better use google chrome? i compiled ff myself dont have any weird errors |
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| 14:07.50 | aiaco | how to choose expert mode installation with the latest debian testing installation cd ? |
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| 14:08.11 | boudiccas | eni23: tried google chrome but that threw out errors too |
| 14:08.27 | eni23 | boudiccas: what errors? |
| 14:08.46 | boudiccas | errors in updating my gmail page |
| 14:08.51 | eni23 | boudiccas: mabye you are using 32bit version on 64bit? |
| 14:09.10 | boudiccas | 32bit, too old machine for 64bit |
| 14:09.13 | eni23 | boudiccas: you mean web-page-render errors? |
| 14:09.44 | boudiccas | cant remember =now, couple of months ago |
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| 14:10.13 | eni23 | np |
| 14:10.52 | boudiccas | upgraded to wheezy, used chroium, no further problems |
| 14:11.03 | boudiccas | chromium |
| 14:11.18 | rstob911 | trying to install debian and when it comes up the video is messed up i have like triple screen effect how can i fix this |
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| 14:11.58 | boudiccas | rstob911: graphics driver rpoblems. what garphics card have you got? |
| 14:12.05 | eni23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:12.19 | rstob911 | nvidia 6100 on a laptop |
| 14:12.35 | eni23 | rstob911: wheezy/squeeze/testing? |
| 14:12.45 | rstob911 | wheezy |
| 14:12.50 | boudiccas | eni23: wheezy IS testing |
| 14:12.57 | eni23 | boudiccas: ik, ik |
| 14:14.17 | rstob911 | is there a parameter in the boot section i can use |
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| 14:14.25 | eni23 | rstob911: do an lspci -v and paste it to debian? |
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| 14:15.58 | eni23 | rstob911: would be something like nouveau.modeset=0 |
| 14:16.27 | rstob911 | i would if i could see it im on my desktop now cant see anything but shakey graphics and 3 screen effect |
| 14:16.54 | eni23 | rstob911: then go to an tty |
| 14:17.29 | eni23 | [ctrl][alt][f1] for example |
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| 14:22.08 | jhutchins_wk | !kms |
| 14:22.09 | dpkg | Kernel Mode Setting (KMS) has graphical modes initialized by the Linux kernel instead of X. It is hardware dependent, introduced in Linux 2.6.29. Enabled via modprobe as of xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.1-2 and xserver-xorg-video-radeon 1:6.12.192-2. To disable, edit /etc/modprobe.d/{i915,radeon}-kms.conf or boot with the 'nomodeset' kernel command line parameter. http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting |
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| 14:35.06 | Mannequin | hi. I'm having a wtf moment: I can't delete a folder that is empty and that I own, with drwxr-xr-x permissions. |
| 14:35.16 | Mannequin | This folder is located at the root of a mounted partition. |
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| 14:38.05 | oufo | Mannequin, is the partition mounted read-only? what filesystem is it? you have to have write permission on the parent directory to delete it btw |
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| 14:38.22 | Mannequin | ok, the explanation may be that I can't delete folders (which I own and have write permissions on) if I don't have write permissions on the folder that contains this folder. |
| 14:38.32 | oufo | mhm |
| 14:38.41 | Mannequin | oufo, you just said it. Partition is rw, but I don't have write permissions on parent folder |
| 14:38.50 | Mannequin | me => dumb |
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| 14:39.05 | oufo | nah these things happen :P |
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| 14:39.08 | Mannequin | not being able to delete this folder is a Good Thing |
| 14:39.38 | Mannequin | I can't imagine how many people (including me) would have deleted their ~/ folder by mistake |
| 14:40.05 | oufo | well, there's always sudo for the really dumb moves anyway :P |
| 14:40.51 | Mannequin | yeah, I have just deleted it using sudo. thanks oufo |
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| 14:41.47 | ping__ | hy |
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| 14:42.14 | ping__ | im using poweroff but debian reboot ? |
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| 14:43.02 | ping__ | halt same reboot |
| 14:43.07 | ksk | should not :> |
| 14:43.12 | ksk | poweroff is halt |
| 14:43.18 | jargon | anybody here use firehol? how do i take an outgoing connection attempt to a specific domain and redirect it to a domain on my lan? |
| 14:43.19 | ksk | did you mess up some runlevels file somehow? |
| 14:43.37 | ping__ | same problem, im using poweroff,halt, but debian reboot |
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| 14:44.05 | ping__ | init 0 to reboot |
| 14:44.12 | SPF | ,v bitlbee |
| 14:44.13 | judd | Package: bitlbee on i386 -- lenny: 1.2.3-1; lenny-backports: 1.2.7-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1.2.8-1; wheezy: 3.0.5-1.2; sid: 3.0.6-1 |
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| 14:45.12 | ping__ | can help my |
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| 14:46.58 | aiaco | hi (debian wheezy Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Binary-1 20121119-04:55): how to start installation in expert mode? |
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| 14:49.48 | Guest16469 | I need to add a directory to the PATH list. I am using command PATH=$PATH:/home/directory. This command adds the directory to the PATH until I switch the user. After the switching, the directory is gone from the PATH list for any user. How can I make the directory persist on the PATH ? |
| 14:50.14 | ksk | !tell Guest16469 about bashrc |
| 14:50.17 | eni23 | Guest16469: add that line to ~.bashrc |
| 14:50.31 | ksk | yap. |
| 14:50.57 | eni23 | dpkg is slow today :) |
| 14:50.57 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, eni23 |
| 14:51.20 | ksk | no its not, he just uses private messages |
| 14:51.29 | eni23 | ah mkay |
| 14:51.29 | ksk | he=it |
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| 14:59.55 | ping__ | can't help my :'( |
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| 15:01.09 | ChrisH | ping__: what Hardware is it? |
| 15:01.17 | eni23 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:02.36 | blackshirt | aha, ping__ ?? |
| 15:03.01 | ping__ | om blackshirt debian ane ngga mau reboot, bantuin ya |
| 15:03.28 | blackshirt | !indonesian |
| 15:03.34 | ping__ | poweroff, init0, shutdown -h, -p now tetap reboot |
| 15:03.51 | ping__ | kira2 apanya ya om blackshirt |
| 15:04.36 | blackshirt | please, dont make a "roaming" here :D :D |
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| 15:05.07 | babilen | #debian-id |
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| 15:05.51 | ping__ | babilen, oh im sorry, i use netinst.debian, not netinst.debian.id :) |
| 15:06.06 | ping__ | can u help my babilen |
| 15:06.08 | babilen | ping__: Please speak English in here. We have a (very) small channel for Malay speaker from Indonesia over at irc.oftc.net called #debian-id |
| 15:06.20 | babilen | ping__: What is your problem? |
| 15:07.00 | ping__ | hmm, i use this command poweroff, shutdown -h and -P now, init 0, but still reboot |
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| 15:07.51 | ping__ | uname -a linux 2.6.35-5-686 |
| 15:08.02 | ping__ | debian of course |
| 15:08.22 | Guest16469 | ksk, do I add PATH=$PATH:/home/directory to ~/.bashrc ? |
| 15:08.54 | daleus | try it without 'and' ;) |
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| 15:09.02 | babilen | ping__: Which version of Debian is that? Is that a laptop? If so: Does it only happen if you are running on battery? |
| 15:09.18 | ping__ | babilen, i installed on my pc |
| 15:09.51 | cardamon_ | Guest16469: You don't want to do that. A default PATH is already set in /etc/profile |
| 15:10.21 | cardamon_ | If you override it, things like /usr/bin/ are no longer in your path, and you have to fully qualify every command. |
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| 15:11.37 | cardamon_ | If you do want to make a change to it locally, like in bashrc, incorporate your current PATH into it. ala PATH=PATH:new_path |
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| 15:12.13 | minsa | Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/h/haskell-html-conduit/libghc-html-conduit-dev_0.0.1-2_amd64.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 128.30.2.36 80] |
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| 15:12.52 | sc_ | minsa: apt-get update |
| 15:12.52 | minsa | please help |
| 15:13.13 | minsa | sc_ doing it now. |
| 15:13.18 | cardamon_ | Like I like for my users to have access to sbin even if they don't have permission. Saves me effort on the sudo. so I do PATH=PATH:/usr/sbin |
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| 15:13.59 | babilen | cardamon_: A lot of people do that ... And there are a number of commands in /sbin that "normal" users would genuinely want to run anyway |
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| 15:19.45 | nvz | got a laptop here with Radeon HD 6750, needed to install backport kernel in squeeze for the RaLink wireless, now when it boots after init loads the screen gets garbled. I tried nofb nomodeset vga=normal that didn't help, anyone have other ideas? |
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| 15:20.36 | cardamon_ | babilen: It was an example for Guest16469's benefit. |
| 15:21.00 | babilen | cardamon_: Yeah, just wanted to endorse it |
| 15:21.00 | Guest16469 | cardamom, can you please clarify how can I make my directory to stay permanently on path list? |
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| 15:21.55 | nvz | s'poses he has another idea.. boot 2.6 and install fglrx |
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| 15:22.48 | cardamon_ | Guest16469: Do what I said. Add a line to your /home/<youruser>/.bashrc that says "PATH=PATH:<Path_To_The_Directory_You_Want_To_Add>" |
| 15:23.22 | rstob911 | nvz: i just has the same problem this is what i did radeon.modeset=1024x768 and it booted to a screen that said parameter was wrong then it booted right up then after that i was able to fix it by installing the correct driver after |
| 15:23.38 | cardamon_ | $PATH is a list of directories you have immediate access to no matter where you are. You almost never want to change it...only add new information. |
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| 15:24.15 | rstob911 | i know this was not the correct way but it worked lol |
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| 15:25.40 | nvz | rstob911: yeah I may try that.. I downloaded the latest amd catalyst beforehand knew Id need it.. cause the drivers in squeeze are too old for this card |
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| 15:28.10 | Guest16469 | cardamon, I think you forgot $ in that line |
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| 15:31.18 | cardamon_ | You don't need it on assignment. |
| 15:31.34 | cardamon_ | er |
| 15:31.36 | cardamon_ | wait. |
| 15:31.37 | cardamon_ | yeah. |
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| 15:32.02 | cardamon_ | You need PATH=$PATH:/new |
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| 15:32.09 | cardamon_ | some basher correct me |
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| 15:33.22 | cardamon_ | Guest16469: easy way to find out. Try it, then echo $PATH. |
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| 15:34.39 | Eagleman | I am trying to transfer our CVS program to another machine, but i am having problems with importing the passwd file. it just refuses to read it and so it only allows the user root |
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| 15:36.07 | romgo | Hello I have a weird issue with aptitude |
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| 15:36.30 | Guest16469 | cardamom, I added the line PATH=$PATH:/new to ~/.bashrc and now it is staying on the PATH list, but only for root, not other users |
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| 15:36.55 | romgo | when I do aptitude update aptitude is trying to download squeeze Release.gpg many times |
| 15:37.02 | romgo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:37.16 | romgo | it seems that it never finish |
| 15:38.45 | eni23 | Guest16469: then you added to file /root/.bashrc. you should add it to /etc/bash.bashrc or /home/$USER/.bashrc |
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| 15:39.23 | eni23 | if you add it in /home/$USER/.bashrc then you have to do it for every user |
| 15:40.48 | abrotman | romgo: ty another mirror |
| 15:40.51 | abrotman | try |
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| 15:42.03 | romgo | ok abrotman I'll try that |
| 15:42.06 | romgo | thx |
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| 15:44.45 | romgo | abrotman: seems the same thing on other mirrors |
| 15:45.03 | abrotman | could be your network? |
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| 15:45.12 | abrotman | or bad mirror syncs |
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| 15:45.25 | romgo | maybe I use apt-cacher |
| 15:45.53 | romgo | I finaly found one OK. |
| 15:46.01 | romgo | any idea on how to troubleshoot ? |
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| 15:52.12 | Walex2 | romgo: it is either a network issue as <abrotman> suggests or the target filesystem may be damaged or just 100% full |
| 15:52.34 | Christoph_vW | it is possible to update to Wheezy (testing) already and get the final when it is ready - or would I be on testing forever then? |
| 15:52.35 | Walex2 | romgo: there is a nice tool that downloads a list of possible mirrors and finds a quick one for you. |
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| 15:52.51 | abrotman | Walex2: with apt-proxy, could be other things |
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| 15:53.05 | abrotman | Christoph_vW: yes to the former |
| 15:53.28 | Walex2 | Christoph_vW: 'testing' is not a release, it is just a repository. Also, a release is "just" a collection of packages. with a particular manifest |
| 15:53.33 | txomon|nqas | any tip on how to cross compile a linux kernel on the debian way without debootstrap? |
| 15:53.35 | abrotman | Christoph_vW: just make sure your sources point ay wheezy, not testing |
| 15:53.42 | babilen | Christoph_vW: If you use "wheezy" in your sources.list you'll track wheezy. If you use "testing" you'll track testing (and would upgrade to jessie (wheezy+1) as soon as wheezy is released) -- I wouldn't recommend the latter. |
| 15:53.51 | Christoph_vW | abrotman: ok, thanks |
| 15:54.18 | wols | Christoph_vW: purt "wheezy" in your sources list and you get testing now. soon wheezy will be "stable" and then you run stable from then on. until a new stable comes out, when you need to change the sources.list again |
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| 15:54.55 | Christoph_vW | wols: that's what I want - I really need a newer OpenSSL with TLS 1.2 support |
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| 15:59.34 | Guest16469 | eni, thanks |
| 15:59.43 | Guest16469 | cardamon, thanks |
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| 16:10.24 | Walex2 | Christoph_vW: you may find it in the backports |
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| 16:14.43 | Christoph_vW | Walex2: no, openssl is not in backports |
| 16:15.36 | babilen | Christoph_vW: You might be able to backport it yourself by following the procedure in "/msg dpkg ssb", but I have no idea if that is a good idea. |
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| 16:16.18 | Christoph_vW | babilen: no, there are many programs which depend on it |
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| 16:16.46 | segar_ | hello, I'm trying to use xrandr to extend the screen to teh second monitor, but the primary desktop always gets moved there. how can I avoid that? --noprimary doesnt help |
| 16:16.55 | babilen | Christoph_vW: Sure |
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| 16:20.16 | Christoph_vW | babilen: upgrade to wheezy finished - openssl works as expected now :) |
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| 16:26.53 | Walex2 | segar_: that's a bit of a diabolical issue, and does not depend on 'xrandr', but your window manager and desktop environment. |
| 16:26.55 | Christoph_vW | now SSL connections to HP procurve switches are not working anymore... :/ |
| 16:27.23 | segar_ | Walex2: XFCE under wheezy... |
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| 16:31.56 | Walex2 | segar_: no idea... |
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| 16:39.39 | t7 | how do i cleanup after dist-upgrade ? |
| 16:39.50 | t7 | i dont want the old kernel in grub and stuff |
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| 16:40.48 | somiaj | Christoph_vW: note wheezy has no security support. You could probabaly just backported openssl yourself, (/msg dpkg ssbp) -- seems all the depends would have been satsified |
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| 16:40.51 | babilen | t7: "aptitude search ~o", "aptitude purge ~o", ... "aptitude search ~b", "apt-get autoclean", ... |
| 16:41.27 | somiaj | t7: you will have to remove the kernels manually. If you want to remove the .debs that were downloaded see 'autoclean' or 'clean' in the manpage |
| 16:42.08 | t7 | so people just keep 6 different options in grub all the time? |
| 16:42.37 | t7 | or does everyone do the search purge autoclean? |
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| 16:42.55 | babilen | t7: kernels are not removed automagically (cf. /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove) -- Old squeeze kernels are, however, captured by ~o in the aptitude search. |
| 16:43.04 | somiaj | t7: in stable you wont get upgrading kernel versions (just secutiy patches) so this isn't really an issue. In testing/unstable people manage their packages and remove the kernels they don't want. |
| 16:43.12 | babilen | t7: automagically == "by apt-get --purge autoremove" and/or aptitude |
| 16:43.44 | Chosi | hey there, i used to have a bridge automatically generated by xend that was named eth0 with peth0 as part of the bridge - can i create a bridge that's called eth0 manally? with eth0 as part of it? |
| 16:43.48 | babilen | t7: btw, I interpreted "dist-upgrade" as "I just upgraded from lenny to squeeze" |
| 16:43.58 | somiaj | t7: note autoclean doesn't have anything to do with removing the kernels, it is just for removing older .deb packages from your downloads that are not needed anymore. |
| 16:44.36 | somiaj | (it only effects the .deb files located in /var/cache/apt/archives |
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| 16:46.03 | t7 | thanks guys |
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| 16:46.23 | userzzz | hi, is it possible to create an access point or repeater with just a single wifi? in windows there is Hostednetwork that let the wifi card to be able to be like 2 wifi, one to repeat the other to connect to the router, is there this possibiliti in debian? |
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| 16:49.21 | jhutchins_wk | userzzz: Depends on the hardware. |
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| 16:50.26 | userzzz | jhulst the hardware work in windows |
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| 16:50.58 | userzzz | jhutchins_wk yes the ardware is able |
| 16:51.04 | daleus | The hardware might work in Windows, just like my tyres work on my car - but might not even fit on yours. |
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| 16:51.40 | jhutchins_wk | userzzz: The question is whether the hardware will do that under Linux. |
| 16:51.49 | userzzz | the ardware is able to do this function, debian is able to... |
| 16:52.03 | userzzz | how can i try? |
| 16:52.11 | userzzz | wich soft i need? |
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| 16:53.45 | userzzz | ?? hostapd ?? |
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| 16:54.11 | petn-randall | userzzz: hostapd is probably a good start. |
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| 16:54.53 | userzzz | if don't exist it will be a good project to do |
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| 16:55.12 | userzzz | it is useful to use just one card to do all the job |
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| 17:05.56 | security | how long does the bot log this channel ? |
| 17:06.17 | security | means the time period through the logged data is archived |
| 17:06.59 | babilen | security: Which bot? |
| 17:07.13 | babilen | !tell security -about irclogs |
| 17:07.50 | security | babilen: how much time the logged data are saved ? |
| 17:08.10 | security | infinite time or some years or some finite time period ? |
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| 17:08.56 | security | ok got it, thanks babilen :) |
| 17:08.59 | babilen | security: I haven't deleted a single log on my box yet and have some going back to 2003, don't think that the two logs dpkg told you about are removed as well. |
| 17:09.30 | babilen | security: If you are interested in earlier logs I might be able to find them (but they might also be online at those sites) |
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| 17:10.39 | security | babilen: ya i found them :) |
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| 17:15.08 | rgr | well hats off to the debian team. While not totally painless the move from squeeze to wheezy has paid dividends. great job. |
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| 17:16.10 | eni23 | jup the debian-team does a great job |
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| 17:17.40 | simonlnu | thinks so too |
| 17:17.49 | rgr | since I use xmonad the gnome changes dont even grate too much though I did have to google how to add a panel applet ;) |
| 17:19.00 | simonlnu | ohnoez :P |
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| 17:31.24 | kavu | hi |
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| 17:37.41 | peggysmouse | I'm having a problem with some USB drives. I'm trying to use three drives to back up our server. I plug one in at a time. I have the drives in the fstab and they are recognized correctly but after a while, they seem to get remounted (origianlly sdc1) as sdd1 and then sde1 etc using a different mount point. This causes the backup to fail. Any ideas how to make this work? |
| 17:38.17 | peggysmouse | I should have said, only one is plugged in at a time. |
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| 17:40.42 | zxcvbn | any info about that in dmesg? |
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| 17:40.56 | simonlnu | they getting disconnected then reconnected? as in, is there a usb disconnect? |
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| 17:41.48 | simonlnu | see what zxcvbn said about how to check |
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| 17:42.17 | dura | I love you, debian |
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| 17:42.47 | zxcvbn | + when you plug two drives at same time - do you have any power problems? (usb drivers dont start) |
| 17:43.28 | zxcvbn | *usb drivers=usb drives |
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| 17:47.37 | WilliamEDIS | peggysmouse: enough power on the port? |
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| 17:49.31 | lelo | I need to setup a system that will list every file modification in a samba server. Does anyone have any idea on how to start? :) |
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| 17:50.13 | sambagirl | hi if you select the filesystem to copy to an external drive, does that filesystem include the external drive that is attached as being part of the filesystem you are copying and therefore increasing the size of the actual copy? |
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| 17:51.07 | asturel | any suggestion which debian release would be the best choice for me? (gameservers (hl,hl2), i7 system |
| 17:51.20 | lelo | asturel: no reason not to go with stable |
| 17:51.20 | asturel | squeeze kernel isnt too old for this? |
| 17:51.27 | lelo | asturel: nope |
| 17:51.31 | asturel | 2.6.32 released in like 2009 |
| 17:51.32 | asturel | when i7 |
| 17:51.42 | asturel | i thought may never kernel supports better |
| 17:51.44 | lelo | asturel: but it has the updates necessary |
| 17:52.04 | lelo | asturel: you can always recompile a new kernel |
| 17:52.29 | asturel | so wheezy isnt recommended? |
| 17:53.00 | somiaj | asturel: depends. wheezy doesn't recive any security support at the moment |
| 17:53.13 | asturel | i didnt run too much thing |
| 17:53.17 | asturel | pureftpd + sshd |
| 17:53.26 | lelo | asturel: I think you have no reason not to go with stable |
| 17:53.27 | somiaj | asturel: squeeze + squeeze-backports will do most of what you want to do. If you dont care about security support and want to use a testing system. go with wheezy. |
| 17:53.28 | asturel | basicly its only for gameservers |
| 17:53.43 | somiaj | yea if you are running a server get security support |
| 17:54.10 | lelo | its quite easy to recompile a new kernel if you want to |
| 17:54.32 | lelo | I mean compile... |
| 17:54.41 | asturel | but isnt it requires new dbus or something like that? |
| 17:55.08 | lelo | asturel: nope, dont worry, you wont have a problem |
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| 17:55.35 | asturel | there is no 3.x prebuild for squeeze? |
| 17:56.04 | lelo | Im not sure... I wouldnt look for it, though. I prefer to compile/install a new kernel. Its that simple :) |
| 17:56.11 | asturel | i have never compiled kernel under debian |
| 17:56.27 | lelo | asturel: its even easier than in other distros. Just google: compile kernel debian way |
| 17:56.35 | asturel | using gentoo on my servers :D |
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| 17:56.56 | lelo | you will enjoy the experience, then :) |
| 17:57.15 | asturel | and this grub2.. bah |
| 17:57.22 | mang0 | Hello all. I've just upgraded my Squeeze install to wheezy, and I'm having trouble. I can't seem to mount any external USB devices unless I'm root? |
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| 17:57.56 | asturel | is there an basic debian config in the 3.x source? |
| 17:57.57 | mang0 | They don't show up in thunar, so I hve to run "mount" in terminal, then as root "mount /dev/sdc /mnt/test" for example...how can I fix this? |
| 17:58.05 | asturel | or i should get it from linux.org?:D |
| 17:58.17 | asturel | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s06.html.en reading this |
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| 17:58.45 | lelo | asturel: was about to paste you that url :) |
| 17:59.05 | asturel | but http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_debian_etch says i should get it from kernel.org |
| 17:59.19 | lelo | asturel: it wont make a huge difference. go either way... |
| 17:59.32 | asturel | i would like to 'keep' debian default 3.x config if its possible :D |
| 17:59.33 | lelo | asturel: I would probably get from kernel.org, since Im used to doing that |
| 17:59.40 | asturel | i assume i cant do just make oldconfig from 2.6.32 |
| 17:59.41 | boudiccas | mang0: dont they auti-mount when th3eyre plugged in? |
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| 17:59.56 | DamienCassou | hi |
| 17:59.58 | DamienCassou | I've just installed a package with aptitude and this installed thousands of packages. I guess most of them are only recommended but not dependencies. How can I remove these recommended packages without removing the package I want? |
| 18:00.17 | lelo | asturel: you are too afraid of something that isnt that problematic. go for it... dont worry that much :) |
| 18:00.34 | asturel | lelo i dont have direct access to the server |
| 18:00.40 | asturel | so if it goes into kernel panic or just wont boot |
| 18:00.41 | asturel | :D |
| 18:00.43 | mang0 | boudiccas: No. |
| 18:00.57 | boudiccas | mang0: what DE? |
| 18:01.02 | lelo | asturel: I see why you are afraid. just make sure you follow the guide :) |
| 18:01.23 | asturel | but im thinking about just do a dist upgrade.. |
| 18:01.27 | mang0 | boudiccas: I'm using OpenBox |
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| 18:01.44 | lelo | asturel: that would work too.. |
| 18:01.53 | boudiccas | mang0: and niothing like lxde/xfce as well? |
| 18:01.56 | lelo | asturel: far less painful |
| 18:02.00 | asturel | :D |
| 18:02.08 | asturel | at least mc will have compare file command .d |
| 18:02.33 | mang0 | boudiccas: No, just pure openbox :) |
| 18:03.12 | EyesIsServer | mang0, I don't see a problem |
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| 18:03.34 | mang0 | EyesIsServer: Uhm...why? |
| 18:03.48 | EyesIsServer | Mounting as root is ten times more secure |
| 18:03.50 | EyesIsServer | And less tupid |
| 18:04.00 | dcherniv | mand0, try udisks + udiskie |
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| 18:04.34 | boudiccas | mang0: have you got autofs installed? if not it might help |
| 18:04.55 | petn-randall | Hi does anyone know how to find out the read/write totals of a filesystem, LVM or a RAID? I'm moving our RAID10, and I'm pondering whether it will use near or far striping. |
| 18:04.56 | mang0 | EyesIsServer: If I have to mount my memory sticks as root, then open a root thunar just to look at the files...that's a problem. |
| 18:05.05 | mang0 | boudiccas: I've just insatlled it, not sure what to do with it this :P |
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| 18:05.10 | mang0 | with it though* |
| 18:05.18 | EyesIsServer | sudo mount /dev/whatever /home/you/whatever |
| 18:05.25 | boudiccas | mang0: rebot an dit will be laoded in and operative |
| 18:05.33 | boudiccas | reboot |
| 18:05.34 | EyesIsServer | sudo chown -hR you:you /home/you/whatever |
| 18:06.34 | mang0 | boudiccas: Rebooting now |
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| 18:06.52 | mang0 | EyesIsServer: I'd rather not have to mount them all in /home though... |
| 18:07.04 | boudiccas | mang0: you need to reboot because autofs - kernel-based automounter for Linux |
| 18:07.04 | EyesIsServer | use /mnt then |
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| 18:08.06 | mang0 | I did, and that's where I got the permissions problem, EyesIsServer :/ |
| 18:08.14 | mang0 | I actually want to mount this drive to /media/Elements |
| 18:08.20 | EyesIsServer | chown -hR you:you /media |
| 18:09.46 | mang0 | okay |
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| 18:10.00 | mang0 | Also, I tried setting thunar to mount automagically, nothing happens. |
| 18:10.22 | boudiccas | mand0: if theyre automounted they will show up in thunar |
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| 18:11.40 | peggysmouse | WilliamEDIS zxcvbn simonlnu I've some of the relevant demsg info here: http://paste.debian.net/211582/ |
| 18:12.07 | peggysmouse | I haven't tried plugging more than one of the drives in at a time so I'm not sure about the power but I can try that. |
| 18:12.34 | WilliamEDIS | yea id guess its the power |
| 18:12.47 | WilliamEDIS | or a bad shielded port (shorted cables) |
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| 18:14.45 | boudiccas | mang0: well, are they automounted now? |
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| 18:16.44 | mang0 | boudiccas: Nope :( |
| 18:16.44 | peggysmouse | I should have mentioned, the three drives are identical but this doesn't seem to happen with one of them. |
| 18:16.48 | mang0 | I'm trying with chown |
| 18:17.25 | mang0 | if I want to be able to access all the files in /media/Elements, would I do chown -hR myusername:myusername /media/Elements/*? EyesIsServer, boudiccas |
| 18:17.36 | asturel | how does sshfs works if the remote machine rebooted/network lost or something? |
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| 18:17.49 | asturel | i mean will it work after the remote machine is up again? |
| 18:17.54 | dcherniv | mang0, try udisks |
| 18:18.10 | EyesIsServer | no, chown -hR changes everything inside the folder to your ownership |
| 18:18.16 | EyesIsServer | except for .. |
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| 18:20.36 | mang0 | EyesIsServer: Except for ..? |
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| 18:25.12 | mang0 | bbs. food |
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| 18:27.58 | dcherniv | mang0, udisks please, i swear it works ) |
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| 18:28.11 | ubd | hello. how do i edit the exim4 configuration and run the update conf? |
| 18:28.25 | EyesIsServer | mang0, .. is the previous directory |
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| 18:33.03 | peggysmouse | WilliamEDIS: do you say power based on the demsg? what am I looking for there? |
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| 18:37.39 | peggysmouse | WilliamEDIS: also, the drives have an external power source. power shouldn't be an issue, should it? |
| 18:37.51 | fredcooke | Hello, I recall doing this once before and being told it was the wrong room, but I don't see it on the topic, so here goes anyway: |
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| 18:38.33 | fredcooke | I'm putting together a simple meta package which depends on a couple of tools (bc and make) and some i386 packages that aren't yet available for amd64 |
| 18:38.54 | fredcooke | What I want to do is create an amd64 meta package that explicitly declares i386 dependencies |
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| 18:39.16 | fredcooke | I tried various guessed syntax and read the docs, but can't see an example of it |
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| 18:40.01 | fredcooke | Depends: something:i386 (>=1:1.2.3), etc |
| 18:40.12 | fredcooke | can anyone advise on the syntax? |
| 18:40.21 | fredcooke | dpkg that i'm trying to use is squeeze |
| 18:40.22 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, fredcooke |
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| 18:40.29 | fredcooke | though i can try on sid here too |
| 18:40.35 | fredcooke | and wheezy 64 as well |
| 18:41.05 | fredcooke | (19:40:22) dpkg: I think you lost me on that one, fredcooke |
| 18:41.05 | fredcooke | Exactly, you don't understand what I'm trying to tell you ;-) |
| 18:41.10 | fredcooke | feels weird typing to a bot |
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| 18:41.39 | eni23 | why not use the multiarch-feauture of wheezy? |
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| 18:42.30 | pangu | hi to all. Anyone can tell me please (Debian Squeeze): the 'make' command is generating connections error. Can I configure 'make' somehow to use a proxy for connection attempts to the net? |
| 18:42.52 | eni23 | pangu: wtf? |
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| 18:43.18 | pangu | is there something like "/etc/makerc" or "/etc/default/make", similar as I configure wget or other programs? |
| 18:43.32 | mang0 | EyesIsServer: Right, thanks. Okay, so I ran chown -hR /media, but there are still files inside /media/Elements that are locked.... |
| 18:43.39 | fredcooke | (19:41:39) eni23: why not use the multiarch-feauture of wheezy? |
| 18:43.39 | fredcooke | seems like it's a limitation of dpkg on squeeze, syntax above works on sid 32 here. as for why not, want it to work for older 64 stuff too. |
| 18:43.43 | eni23 | pangu: usually make does not use an internet connection |
| 18:44.04 | mang0 | EyesIsServer: I also tried chown -hR /media/Elements, and chown -hR /media/Elements/*, but all the files inside are locked to me unless I'm root. |
| 18:44.06 | eni23 | pangu: its for compiling code |
| 18:44.12 | pangu | yes, but I have a case, which it does. And it cannot contact my proxy-server, and thats why it fails |
| 18:44.13 | fredcooke | (19:42:52) eni23: pangu: wtf? |
| 18:44.13 | fredcooke | seconded :-) |
| 18:44.45 | pangu | where can I configure, to teach 'make' to use a proxy ? |
| 18:44.45 | eni23 | pangu: make only runs commands |
| 18:45.05 | eni23 | it has no functionality to connet to the internet |
| 18:45.13 | pangu | so make is something like a script ? |
| 18:45.23 | eni23 | when it does it uses wget or curl or something |
| 18:45.23 | dcherniv | pangu, yes |
| 18:45.30 | eni23 | pangu: man make |
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| 18:47.00 | eni23 | fredcooke: uhm good question then |
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| 18:47.54 | pangu | eni23: I see. So I have to check the existing Makefile in my directory and check which procedures are used? |
| 18:48.13 | eni23 | pangu: yes |
| 18:48.31 | eni23 | pangu: what are you trying to compile? |
| 18:48.33 | pangu | eni23: You're my man. Thank you |
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| 18:48.45 | fredcooke | LOL |
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| 18:48.55 | fredcooke | classic |
| 18:48.57 | eni23 | guess we will never know |
| 18:49.00 | fredcooke | :-) |
| 18:49.14 | fredcooke | damn it, can't access my wheezy 64 via reverse ssh |
| 18:49.17 | fredcooke | must have dropped out |
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| 18:49.30 | EyesIsServer | mang0, can you ls -lA /media/Elements/ and put the output on pastie.org |
| 18:49.52 | mang0 | EyesIsServer: sure |
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| 18:51.11 | eni23 | thinks pangu tried to compile a bot or something like that |
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| 18:51.52 | mang0-debian | EyesIsServer: Right, I've logged in to IRC on the computer rather than the laptop now |
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| 18:52.54 | pangu | eni23: do you know if xsltproc is able to be configured somehow, to access files through proxy? |
| 18:52.56 | mang0-debian | http://pastie.org/private/tnukuu8aighs2ky3qynva EyesIsServer |
| 18:53.04 | pangu | I cannot find anything in 'man xsltproc' |
| 18:53.49 | EyesIsServer | mang0, what files can you not access? |
| 18:54.06 | eni23 | pangu: xsltproc is a tool to add stylesheets to xml-documents. that does not need internet |
| 18:54.13 | mang0-debian | EyesIsServer: Any file on it, hold on I'll grab a screenshot |
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| 18:54.41 | eni23 | pangu: what are you trying to compile? |
| 18:54.55 | pangu | manpages |
| 18:55.06 | eni23 | what? |
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| 18:55.16 | pangu | manpages dude, manuals |
| 18:55.18 | pangu | :) |
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| 18:55.29 | EyesIsServer | you're trying to compile man-db? or the actual file.man filles |
| 18:55.31 | eni23 | i know but what? |
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| 18:55.57 | pangu | does it matter for my question to be answered? |
| 18:56.07 | EyesIsServer | yes |
| 18:56.21 | eni23 | yes |
| 18:56.30 | eni23 | :) |
| 18:56.30 | mang0-debian | http://ompldr.org/vZ2V0dQ EyesIsServer I picked this folder because it had a load of obvious image files in it, but every file is like that. The folders are all accessible, but the files are not. |
| 18:56.35 | pangu | I just want try to understand how this works, in general |
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| 18:56.57 | fredcooke | rofls, but i must dash, thanks for the laughs :-) |
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| 18:57.07 | eni23 | pangu: you should name the programm or manpage you wanna compile |
| 18:57.13 | pangu | whatever I want to try to compile with. The process 'X' tries to get these files. I could manually install the docbook-xsl package, but I want it the hard way, to learn ;) |
| 18:57.58 | eni23 | ehm wtf? |
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| 18:58.07 | pangu | I just wondered, because initially the 'make' did not work due to connection errors. That#s why I was asking |
| 18:58.36 | eni23 | just get a good book or tutorial and learn it from scatch |
| 18:58.47 | EyesIsServer | mang0-debian, are you able to read them? or nothing |
| 18:58.47 | pangu | however, my problem is solved, but I'd really like to know, if I could somehow teach XSLTPROC to use a proxy for connections |
| 18:58.56 | eni23 | that does not work your way ;) |
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| 18:59.01 | mang0-debian | EyesIsServer: Nothing. |
| 18:59.05 | pangu | eni23: ? |
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| 18:59.22 | EyesIsServer | a quick ls -l on the dir you're trying to access again |
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| 18:59.46 | eni23 | pangu: you should first get some basic knowledge about that stuff |
| 19:00.13 | pangu | eni23: basic knowledge about xslproc ? do you even know what I am asking about? |
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| 19:00.52 | mang0-debian | http://pastie.org/private/joangbpgrv3bhqbgrj02iq EyesIsServer |
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| 19:01.13 | mang0-debian | I can go through all the folders in /media/Elements fine, EyesIsServer, but when I try to open any files, they're locked. |
| 19:01.16 | eni23 | pangu: ikd about linux, makefiles, compilers? |
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| 19:02.07 | pangu | you did already answer my question about 'make', that's ok. But did you read my following question about xslproc ? |
| 19:02.24 | EyesIsServer | for testing purposes: chmod 777 /media/Elements/* |
| 19:02.25 | pangu | did you try a "man xslproc" ? |
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| 19:03.10 | eni23 | pangu: like i told ya, xslproc is an xml-processing-tool. why the hell should that need an internet connection |
| 19:03.12 | mang0-debian | EyesIsServer: No fix |
| 19:03.18 | EyesIsServer | hm |
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| 19:03.31 | EyesIsServer | output of mount |
| 19:03.32 | mang0-debian | :/ |
| 19:03.34 | mang0-debian | okay |
| 19:03.48 | EyesIsServer | maybe you accidentally read-only'fied it |
| 19:03.55 | pangu | cannot be parsed data to xslproc so it gets necessary files ? |
| 19:04.11 | mang0-debian | http://pastie.org/private/dghgm0a8ehukrywwvlu7g EyesIsServer |
| 19:04.44 | EyesIsServer | okay, i'm stumped, sorry |
| 19:04.48 | eni23 | pangu: no why should it? |
| 19:04.56 | mang0-debian | :/ I'll ask in ##linux, maybe |
| 19:05.01 | EyesIsServer | try a cp to your home dir, and try then |
| 19:05.04 | mang0-debian | EyesIsServer: will that "noexec" tag do anything? |
| 19:05.05 | pangu | eni23: ok,thats it. |
| 19:05.11 | pangu | Question replied :) |
| 19:05.13 | mang0-debian | cp the whole drive to my home dir?! |
| 19:05.17 | pangu | eni23: thx pal |
| 19:05.21 | mang0-debian | Or just one file |
| 19:05.36 | EyesIsServer | one file to test |
| 19:05.41 | mang0-debian | Right |
| 19:05.43 | eni23 | pangu: if you really wanna know then just learn about |
| 19:05.45 | EyesIsServer | and the noexec tag, i'm not sure |
| 19:06.00 | Catbuntu | brb |
| 19:06.01 | pangu | eni23: I will I will |
| 19:06.12 | eni23 | pangu: because your questions are just silly with some basic knowledge :) |
| 19:06.23 | pangu | eni23: thanks |
| 19:06.28 | pangu | nice day to @ll |
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| 19:07.46 | mang0-debian | cp: cannot open `/media/Elements/Music/01/Unknown Album/on the shady side of town.mp3' for reading: Permission denied |
| 19:07.49 | mang0-debian | EyesIsServer: ^ |
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| 19:09.44 | eni23 | lol |
| 19:10.02 | dcherniv | mang0-debian, chown wont do anything for ntfs partitions |
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| 19:10.24 | mang0-debian | dcherniv: aha! That explains it |
| 19:10.27 | dcherniv | mang0-debian, for non-unix partitions they have to be mounted with uid of the user that needs access |
| 19:10.43 | mang0-debian | dcherniv: Okay, and how would I go about setting that up/ |
| 19:10.44 | mang0-debian | *? |
| 19:10.56 | dcherniv | mang0-debian, ie ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/test -o uid=1000,gid=1000 |
| 19:11.09 | dcherniv | mang0, where 1000 is the uid of user matrix |
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| 19:11.25 | mang0-debian | dcherniv: Okay, and how do I find out the uid? |
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| 19:11.48 | dcherniv | mang0-debian, run id |
| 19:11.58 | babilen | mang0-debian: run "id" -- but it is nost likely 1000 if you have only a single user on that box |
| 19:12.09 | mang0-debian | yup, it's 1000 |
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| 19:13.04 | dcherniv | mang0, not sure if it matters with ntfs-3g but -o uid=1000,gid=1000 goes in front of actual dev and mountpoint |
| 19:13.23 | apm1 | when are the wheezy beta 4 images coming ? |
| 19:13.23 | dcherniv | mang0-debian, ie ntfs-3g -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/sda1 /media/test |
| 19:13.29 | mang0-debian | dcherniv: Okay, so the command would be "ntfs-3g -o uid---Yeah. |
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| 19:13.50 | mang0-debian | Okay, and I suppose I could add that command to ~/.config/openbox/autostart.sh so that it happens automatically |
| 19:13.59 | dcherniv | mang0-debian, nope |
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| 19:14.16 | dcherniv | mang0-debian, ntfs-3g can only be run as root |
| 19:14.17 | mang0-debian | dcherniv: Ah. Why not? |
| 19:14.19 | mang0-debian | I see |
| 19:14.23 | mang0-debian | Can I put it in fstab? |
| 19:14.28 | dcherniv | mang0-debian, yes |
| 19:14.37 | mang0-debian | Brilliant! :) |
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| 19:14.56 | dcherniv | mang0-debian, in case of fstab as follows |
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| 19:15.09 | mang0-debian | Right, thanks |
| 19:15.26 | dcherniv | mang0-debian, /dev/sda1 /media/test ntfs-3g uid=1000,gid=1000 |
| 19:15.32 | mang0-debian | Great, thankyou |
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| 19:15.51 | Catbuntu | hi |
| 19:17.20 | mang0-debian | http://ompldr.org/vZ2V1Nw dcherniv, like so? |
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| 19:18.42 | mang0-debian | Oh, disk utility says that the device is /dev/sdc |
| 19:18.53 | mang0-debian | aah, but partition is /dev/sdc1 |
| 19:19.29 | dcherniv | mang0-debian, oh my... no |
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| 19:19.49 | mang0-debian | dcherniv: Eeh, thought it might be wrong. What did I put in the wrong place? |
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| 19:19.57 | dcherniv | mang0-debian, gid=1000 and rw are separated by a comma |
| 19:20.13 | mang0-debian | done |
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| 19:20.15 | dcherniv | mang0-debian, not a whitespace they are options so , |
| 19:20.24 | dcherniv | mang0-debian, lets see it |
| 19:20.28 | mang0-debian | And the "noauto" flag, what does that do |
| 19:20.30 | mang0-debian | okay, sec |
| 19:21.08 | mang0-debian | http://ompldr.org/vZ2V1OQ dcherniv |
| 19:21.10 | dcherniv | mang0-debian, thats for cdrom i believe, you can remove that |
| 19:21.16 | mang0-debian | Right |
| 19:21.40 | dcherniv | mang0-debian, yep that should work, try to run mount /dev/sdc1 as root |
| 19:21.53 | mang0-debian | Right |
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| 19:22.36 | mang0-debian | dcherniv: ! Thankyou so much! |
| 19:23.20 | dcherniv | mang0-debian, does it work? |
| 19:23.28 | mang0-debian | dcherniv: Like a charm :) |
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| 19:23.36 | dcherniv | mang0-debian, look into udisks and udiskie if you want automounter |
| 19:23.51 | dcherniv | mang0-debian, i have pretty much same setup as you, only use pcmanfm instead of thunar |
| 19:24.03 | mang0-debian | Right |
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| 19:24.19 | dcherniv | alrighty then |
| 19:24.38 | mang0-debian | dcherniv: I don't really want an automounter, what I want is to be able to click in thunar on a folder in the list (not as root, just as my user) and then have it mount |
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| 19:25.57 | mang0-debian | http://ompldr.org/vZ2V1Yg dcherniv, for example, if I could click on "Elements" to mount it |
| 19:26.22 | dcherniv | mang0-debian, ah, you have to look into gvfs and all that gnome junk. |
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| 19:26.29 | mang0-debian | Eugh |
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| 19:28.01 | mang0-debian | dcherniv: I'll just leave it to be mountable by terminal for the moment :P |
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| 19:29.42 | mang0-debian | dcherniv: Thanks for all your help, and you too, EyesIsServer :) |
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| 19:32.13 | dcherniv | mang0-debian, no problem |
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| 19:34.43 | r15 | hello, i tried manythings for resolving low wifi signal reception with my debain 6.0.6 but nothing giving expected results. :( i have a dual boot on hpdv6.. on widows there is no such issue. |
| 19:35.06 | r15 | 0a:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01 |
| 19:35.11 | eni23 | r15: which module do you use |
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| 19:36.25 | eni23 | r15: i have the same. this one s a bitch |
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| 19:36.58 | innociv | I keep getting a "No space left on device" error, but it seems I have plenty of space left |
| 19:37.06 | yvesD | r15: some kernel problems with certain wifi controllers only get better with kernel upgrade. at least for RT / Ralink |
| 19:37.07 | dcherniv | loves pcmanfm |
| 19:37.41 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/egUx6SPG |
| 19:37.53 | eni23 | r15: there is a precompiled module that works ok. but iim using a 3.2 kernel from squeeze-backports |
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| 19:38.31 | r15 | cfg80211 140318 2 brcmsmac,mac80211 |
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| 19:41.04 | r15 | i am using 3.2.0-0.bpo kernel |
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| 19:41.35 | eni23 | ok ok. works fine for me |
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| 19:43.17 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/egUx6SPG I keep getting a "No space left on device" error when trying to apt-get update, or even just iptables-apply. It looks like I have plenty of space. |
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| 19:43.53 | Walex2 | innociv: that "no space" message can also happen if your filetree has run out of inodes, or if the filetree is damaged and the list of free space area is lost. |
| 19:43.59 | r15 | eni23: you have the same Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01) ? |
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| 19:44.14 | innociv | How do I figure out if that is the issue, or resolve it? |
| 19:44.15 | NewDebian | Hi |
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| 19:44.22 | eni23 | r15: yes, exactly the same. tried this one http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php ? |
| 19:44.40 | NewDebian | How I install the driver for WIFI on my laptop? |
| 19:44.42 | eni23 | had this under 2.6 |
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| 19:45.17 | eni23 | but its not open source |
| 19:45.59 | innociv | Walex2, it's what you said: /dev/xvda2 1282560 1282560 0 100% / |
| 19:46.05 | innociv | 100% of inodes used. |
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| 19:47.46 | Walex2 | NewDebian: not all WiFi chipsets are supported, even if many are, and if your chipset is supported it should "just work" except for special cases. |
| 19:47.50 | dcherniv | innociv, lots of small files somewhere |
| 19:48.00 | r15 | eni23: i am having 3.2.0-0.bpo.3-amd64 |
| 19:48.08 | innociv | There is no way to increase the inodes? And how can I find those small files? |
| 19:48.12 | Walex2 | innociv: unfortunately in many filesystems it is difficult to expand the numver of allowed inodes |
| 19:48.39 | allure | any of you guys have experience backing up (with versioning) to s3? |
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| 19:49.50 | r15 | wifi signal issue strength is causing problem.. i don't see this issue with my other laptops on rhel6 desktop or widows xp, widows 7 |
| 19:50.20 | r15 | i mean wifi signal recepition strength.. |
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| 19:50.24 | Walex2 | innociv: to find likely concentrations of small files first try to find large directories with: find $DIR -type d -size +1M |
| 19:50.25 | eni23 | r15: i know. i guess this only works for 2.6 |
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| 19:50.40 | abrotman | innociv: you can use find, look at size and maxdepth |
| 19:50.46 | innociv | That returned nothing, Walex2. |
| 19:51.08 | Walex2 | innociv: have you put a suitable value for $DIR? |
| 19:51.09 | innociv | I have 1175134 in tmp |
| 19:51.19 | innociv | So like 95% of them.. |
| 19:51.19 | Walex2 | innociv: ahhh rhere they are. |
| 19:51.22 | r15 | so any other possible option beside moving to some other linux distro :( |
| 19:51.24 | eni23 | r15: had the same problems with 2.6-kernel. but now with 3.2 seems ok. a hint also could be to set another wlan-channel on the router |
| 19:51.25 | dcherniv | kaching |
| 19:51.27 | NewDebian | Walex2, What can I do now? |
| 19:51.31 | Walex2 | innociv: you should find what has created them |
| 19:51.49 | eni23 | r15: why should it work there better? |
| 19:51.54 | jhutchins_wk | r15: Debian does not produce the wifi drivers. |
| 19:51.57 | innociv | The dir is so big it's hard to look :( |
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| 19:52.15 | Walex2 | NewDebian: well depends on how new your WiFi chipset is. From some point of view the best thing is to get another WiFi adapter. |
| 19:52.25 | jhutchins_wk | r15: Nor for that matter does redhat. |
| 19:52.26 | innociv | After that should I just "sudo rm -RF /tmp/*" ? |
| 19:52.36 | Walex2 | innociv: use 'ls -f /tmp/ | head -200 | less |
| 19:52.37 | r15 | eni23: i have some other laptops with different distro.. so wlan-channel may not be the issue.. |
| 19:52.51 | innociv | Thanks |
| 19:53.01 | innociv | Looks like php sessions |
| 19:53.04 | innociv | that never expired |
| 19:53.36 | r15 | had taken worst decision to have hp-dv6 notebook.. |
| 19:53.37 | innociv | How should I clear them out? rm -RF /tmp/*? |
| 19:53.42 | babilen | r15: Which driver/kernel are you using on the "other" laptop? (assuming that it uses the same wireless adaptor) |
| 19:53.43 | NewDebian | Walex2, It's in my laptop, shall I change my laptop? |
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| 19:53.51 | babilen | r15: You can try the proprietary wl module |
| 19:53.58 | LtL | innociv: reboot |
| 19:53.59 | eni23 | r15: had problems with channel over 12 and this chip. can be a chip issue if you dont have the same chips you cant tell |
| 19:54.03 | babilen | dpkg: tell r15 -about BCM4313 |
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| 19:54.32 | r15 | babilen: other laptop is thinkpad with rhel6 desktop version. |
| 19:54.39 | Walex2 | NewDebian: no why? Most USB WiFi dongles are well supported. But if the laptop is *very* new the chipset in the laptop is likely to be unsupported. |
| 19:54.54 | Walex2 | NewDebian: however before giving up on your laptop, |
| 19:54.55 | jhutchins_wk | r15: What kernel does it use? same chipset? |
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| 19:55.11 | eni23 | r15: thinkpads dont use those chips |
| 19:55.33 | Walex2 | NewDebian: most likely you are still using Debian 6/Squeeze with a 2.6.32 kernel. You should try a 3.2.0 kernel from 'squeeze-backports' |
| 19:55.33 | babilen | r15: I assume that your thinkpad uses a different wireless adaptor. Which one is it? |
| 19:56.07 | NewDebian | Walex2, I'm using 7. |
| 19:56.12 | eni23 | r15: i have an hp dm1 with nearly the same chips as the dm6 |
| 19:56.13 | jhutchins_wk | I guess the question would be what kernel did the RHEL installation that worked use? |
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| 19:56.24 | Walex2 | NewDebian: as a curiosity, which chipset is that? |
| 19:56.38 | NewDebian | Walex2, I don't know. |
| 19:56.38 | jhutchins_wk | eni23: Nearly is pretty meaningless when it comes to wifi chipsets. |
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| 19:57.00 | Walex2 | NewDebian: try 'lspci | grep Network' |
| 19:57.05 | eni23 | jhutchins_wk: this chip has an bt-interface too, only works with kernel 3.2+ |
| 19:57.28 | NewDebian | Walex2, 06:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N + WiMAX 6250 [8086:0087] (rev 57 |
| 19:57.28 | eni23 | jhutchins_wk: i know, i mean things beside wifi |
| 19:57.37 | babilen | r15: I assumed that the "other" laptop was exactly the same model. It doesn't make sense to compare completely different hardware. You also mentioned RHEL6 which allegedly worked better. Was that on the same hardware? Which kernel/driver did *that* use? |
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| 19:57.43 | r15 | babilen: i have 4 laptop's (1-hpdv6 latest one & personal - 2 think pad's and sony vaio) |
| 19:58.09 | eni23 | r15: so comparing is not working dude |
| 19:58.29 | babilen | r15: Well, you can't compare different hardware. Thinkpads are of good quality and typically use the Intel's reference platform (iwlwifi, ...) |
| 19:58.49 | Walex2 | NewDebian: that looks really really new. I'll do a web search |
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| 19:59.11 | babilen | r15: I would expect those to work better than the broadcom crapola -- But back to your RHEL6 experience. Tell usmore about that. Did you try the <wl> module? |
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| 19:59.23 | eni23 | r15: just try that thing with the channels first |
| 19:59.24 | babilen | r15: Did you try newer kernels? Is firmware installed? ... |
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| 19:59.41 | eni23 | babilen: he has 3.2 backport kernel |
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| 19:59.46 | babilen | ,pciid 8086:0087 |
| 19:59.47 | judd | [8086:0087] is 'Centrino Advanced-N + WiMAX 6250 [Kilmer Peak]' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'iwlagn' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:0087 http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi |
| 19:59.54 | babilen | NewDebian, Walex2 ^^^ |
| 20:00.00 | r15 | bringing rh6 tp near to router.. back in 2 minutes. |
| 20:00.06 | innociv | It looks like my server isn't rebooting |
| 20:00.33 | babilen | NewDebian, Walex2: That chipset should work on a .32 kernel, but you need firmware. (firmware-iwlwifi) |
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| 20:00.53 | babilen | innociv: Turn it off and on again |
| 20:01.09 | NewDebian | babilen, so shall I install firmware-iwlwifi? |
| 20:01.14 | innociv | Well it's off, but wont' come back on |
| 20:01.23 | babilen | NewDebian: Yes, you definitely need firmware for that. |
| 20:01.26 | innociv | unreachable according to amazon |
| 20:01.27 | innociv | :/ |
| 20:01.33 | innociv | This same thing happened before.. |
| 20:01.35 | babilen | innociv: Connect it to power |
| 20:01.37 | innociv | /tmp/ isn't clearing out |
| 20:01.56 | Walex2 | NewDebian: yes, the intel wireless site says it is suppoted since 2.6.30, so it is likely lack of firmware package, as <babilen> says |
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| 20:02.16 | Walex2 | innociv: deleting 1 million files can take hours |
| 20:02.17 | innociv | How can I empty the /tmp/ folder? I tried sudo rm /tmp/* and it gave an error about the command list being too long, or something like that |
| 20:02.49 | babilen | NewDebian: See also http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi for additional information -- But enabling non-free sources (/msg dpkg non-free sources) and running "apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi" followed by "modprobe -r iwlwifi ; modprobe iwlwifi" should do it. |
| 20:02.59 | NewDebian | babilen, I did that, "aptitude install firmware-iwlwifi |
| 20:02.59 | NewDebian | ? |
| 20:03.09 | NewDebian | Shall I reboot the system? |
| 20:03.11 | dcherniv | innociv, xargs baby |
| 20:03.23 | Walex2 | innociv: e a bit brutal and do 'sudo rm -rf /tmp' and then recreate '/tmp/'. |
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| 20:03.38 | innociv | Won't that make issues with the mount of /tmp/? |
| 20:03.48 | babilen | NewDebian: err, make that "modprobe -r iwlagn ; modprobe iwlagn" -- rebooting shouldn't be necessary, but wouldn't hurt (just wastes time though) |
| 20:04.07 | Walex2 | innociv: depends on whether it is a mounted filesystem. From what you were sying before it is not. |
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| 20:04.25 | babilen | NewDebian: After you've done that run "dmesg|tail -n42 ; ifconfig -a ; iwconfig" and paste the output to http://paste.debian.net please |
| 20:04.46 | innociv | Alright, I'll do that. Have to wait for amazon support to make it boot first which will probably be an hour |
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| 20:06.24 | r15 | eni23: trying with wifi channel. on rh6 i have iwlwifi |
| 20:06.37 | NewDebian | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/211610/ |
| 20:07.08 | babilen | r15: You *definitely* don't use the iwlwifi module with your bcm4313 wireless adaptor. |
| 20:07.23 | dcherniv | innociv, find /tmp/ -type f -print | xargs rm should delete all the files in /tmp/ |
| 20:07.35 | dcherniv | innociv, make sure to test it before you run it |
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| 20:07.57 | abrotman | why not just use -exec ? |
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| 20:08.11 | babilen | NewDebian: Looks fine -- Can you scan for wireless networks when you run "ifconfig wlan0 up ; iwlist wlan0 scan ; ifconfig wlan0 down" ? |
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| 20:08.39 | eni23 | r15: see. cant compare this |
| 20:08.52 | babilen | r15: I guess that the box you have rhel on is a thinkpad (or another one with a centrino wireless adaptor) |
| 20:08.54 | dcherniv | abrotman, I tried sudo rm /tmp/* and it gave an error about the command list being too long, or something like that |
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| 20:09.12 | dcherniv | abrotman, xargs helps with that |
| 20:09.19 | babilen | dcherniv: "find /tmp -delete" |
| 20:09.51 | eni23 | r15: how much dbm do you have? |
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| 20:10.15 | r15 | On router i have Auto Channel Selection enabled. (router is dlink DIR-600L) |
| 20:10.27 | dcherniv | babilen, hm i never tried -delete switch |
| 20:10.48 | eni23 | r15: if you can try to change that |
| 20:10.50 | dcherniv | babilen, just heard xargs is faster because its non-sequential |
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| 20:11.42 | babilen | r15: Could we please concentrate on different configuration with *the same/identical* hardware? My recommendation would be to try fiddling with the options (e.g. channel) or to try the proprietary wl module. It is no surprise that your intel centrino adaptors work fine. |
| 20:11.47 | NewDebian1 | babilen, Yeah, It's work now |
| 20:11.56 | NewDebian1 | babilen, Thank you so so much. |
| 20:12.00 | babilen | NewDebian1: Wonderful, enjoy! |
| 20:12.02 | babilen | !next |
| 20:12.03 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 20:12.16 | dcherniv | babilen, i stand corrected -delete is faster |
| 20:12.17 | NewDebian1 | Walex2, Thank you to you so much |
| 20:12.45 | NewDebian1 | babilen, Now if I update the kernel it won't work? |
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| 20:13.09 | babilen | NewDebian1: If you update the kernel (e.g. to the one from backports) you have to install firmware-iwlwifi from there too. |
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| 20:13.30 | r15 | ok, trying channel.. back in a while, i may get disconnected. |
| 20:13.38 | r15 | thanks for the patience and support. |
| 20:14.09 | eni23 | np try wl-module if channel thing not works |
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| 20:14.25 | eni23 | channel 8 seems to be the best for me |
| 20:14.34 | babilen | dpkg: tell r15 -about bcm4313 |
| 20:14.45 | babilen | r15: (In case you forgot by now) |
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| 20:18.10 | JohnnyL | Hey, How can I get audio to work on a Gigabyte 965p-ds3 using a realtek 64 bit system? It's installed, just no error, no sound. |
| 20:18.13 | ToApolytoXaos | guys, for some reason a file named -header appeared in my home directory and i cannot delete because of hyphen |
| 20:18.18 | NewDebian1 | babilen, I'm a new user in Debian, I want to install it on my laptop, what do you prefer stable release or testing? |
| 20:18.20 | ToApolytoXaos | is there a way to get rid of it? |
| 20:18.44 | LtL | ToApolytoXaos: rm -- -file |
| 20:18.49 | ToApolytoXaos | ok |
| 20:18.56 | LtL | i think |
| 20:19.03 | bitshuffler | Good evening. Question regarding debian packaging: Is the package name & its version somehow available in a post install script? (reasoning is I would like to have a post install script I don't have to touch when e.g. the version increases which is required somewhere in the script) |
| 20:19.09 | Justin | rm ./-[tab] is the easiest approach |
| 20:19.28 | babilen | NewDebian1: Hehe, that is a tough question. To be honest: I would install Testing if I were you (and if you are willing to learn) -- Grab the beta4 installer with firmware from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/wheezy_di_beta4/ |
| 20:19.44 | ToApolytoXaos | thank LtL :) |
| 20:19.46 | JohnnyL | Anyone here familiar with ALC888 Realtek audio drivers? |
| 20:19.48 | ToApolytoXaos | thanks |
| 20:20.05 | LtL | ToApolytoXaos: welcome |
| 20:20.11 | babilen | NewDebian1: Testing *does* have problems though (/msg dpkg rc bugs) -- I would also recommend to read http://debian-handbook.info/ to familiarise yourself with Debian |
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| 20:24.06 | NewDebian1 | babilen, Do you use Test version? |
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| 20:24.38 | Walex2 | JohnnyL: there are lots and lots of variants, nobody is familiar with all of them |
| 20:25.28 | Walex2 | NewDebian1: contrarily to <babilen>, who knows his stuff, I prefer stable plus backports. |
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| 20:26.39 | babilen | NewDebian1: I use unstable (sid), but tracking wheezy (testing) is a reasonable choice right now. I assume that we are talking about a privately owned/used system and nothing that is used in production btw. I've also been using Linux for more than a decade and my choices shouldn't really influence your decision |
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| 20:27.02 | JohnnyL | Walex2: great, how can I get it to work? |
| 20:27.23 | babilen | NewDebian1: Walex2 makes a valid point in that you could use stable + backports --- To actually help you: On which hardware are you installing? Could you paste the output of "lspci -n ; lspci -nn" to http://paste.debian.net ? |
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| 20:27.51 | babilen | JohnnyL: Start with "lspci -nn|grep -i audio" |
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| 20:28.39 | invariant | How can I configure lpr to always run with at least some options? |
| 20:28.58 | invariant | Is there some configuration file? |
| 20:29.16 | JohnnyL | babilen: 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller [8086:284b] (rev 02) |
| 20:29.23 | JohnnyL | oh sorry |
| 20:29.28 | JohnnyL | I'll paste next time. |
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| 20:30.05 | LtL | invariant: alias ? |
| 20:30.11 | babilen | NewDebian1: I recommended stable (+ backports) to new users for the last years, but I consider testing to be pretty usable even by new users right now. I will not pretend that there won't be any problems with it, but I would guess that it is the better choice. That is in particular so if you run it on hardware that requires a lot of software to be installed from backports |
| 20:30.29 | invariant | LtL, something systemwide. |
| 20:30.35 | babilen | judd: pciid 8086:284b |
| 20:30.36 | judd | [8086:284b] is '82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:284b and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
| 20:30.43 | LtL | invariant: same answer |
| 20:30.45 | ripero | hi; is there any way to block the computerat a given hour, so that it's "easier" to go to sleep? |
| 20:30.45 | JohnnyL | babilen: instead of bothering you is there a good page on this? |
| 20:30.59 | invariant | LtL, if people call lpr from within their own programs, it doesn't work. |
| 20:31.13 | babilen | JohnnyL: You need a newer kernel for that one (cf. http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:284b) -- Are you running stable? |
| 20:31.37 | NewDebian1 | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/211615/ |
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| 20:32.42 | babilen | NewDebian1: May I also see "lspci -n" please? |
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| 20:33.32 | babilen | NewDebian1: I want to check your hardware support on http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ (which is why I need the lspci -n output as opposed to -nn) |
| 20:33.42 | babilen | JohnnyL: That kernel supports your card |
| 20:33.50 | ripero | I'd like to automatically block all users at 24:00, and don't allow them to re-enter their sessions before 6:30 |
| 20:33.53 | babilen | JohnnyL: And please keep it in the chanel |
| 20:33.54 | NewDebian1 | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/211616/ |
| 20:33.56 | babilen | *channel |
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| 20:34.07 | ripero | automatically, every day |
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| 20:34.24 | JohnnyL | babilen: ok |
| 20:34.53 | JohnnyL | while that gives me information I'm still left hanging. |
| 20:35.04 | ripero | anyone? |
| 20:35.13 | babilen | NewDebian1: Your hardware is supported by both stable and testing -- Note that you can *always* upgrade to testing from stable later. *I* would personally use testing, but use stable if you want to :) |
| 20:35.50 | babilen | JohnnyL: I have no idea what your actual problem is. You asked "Anyone here familiar with ALC888 Realtek audio drivers?" -- I am not, but I tried my best to provide information |
| 20:35.54 | NewDebian1 | babilen, Do you use it on PC or laptop? |
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| 20:36.00 | babilen | NewDebian1: laptop |
| 20:36.23 | NewDebian1 | babilen, How about the heat on it when you use Debian? |
| 20:36.42 | JohnnyL | babilen: I will give you a restatement of what I said earlier. : "Hey, How can I get audio to work on a Gigabyte 965p-ds3 using a realtek 64 bit system? It's installed, just no error, no sound. " |
| 20:36.58 | babilen | NewDebian1: I don't have a problem with it. But I am running Debian on hardware that is traditionally pretty well supported by Linux (Thinkpad). |
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| 20:37.19 | babilen | dpkg: tell JohnnyL -about alsa checklist |
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| 20:37.56 | RichiH | do i need debsecan to upgrade all packages that /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt_check.py lists as security upgrades? |
| 20:38.12 | RichiH | or is there a way without debsecan |
| 20:38.22 | babilen | JohnnyL: Also "cat /proc/asound/cards" (does it list more than one?) -- Run "aplay -L" and play with "speaker-test -t wav" -- In particular try different Devices (-D option to speaker-test/aplay as explained in "man aplay") |
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| 20:38.39 | NewDebian1 | babilen, And you use Gnome or KDE? |
| 20:38.42 | Justin | RichiH: unattended-upgrades works too |
| 20:39.21 | babilen | NewDebian1: neither :) -- I've settled on awesomewm (http://awesome.naquadah.org/) |
| 20:40.28 | JohnnyL | babilen: the cat lists: 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel none of those other commands works |
| 20:40.31 | babilen | JohnnyL: Err, I meant "man 1 speaker-test" |
| 20:40.44 | NewDebian1 | babilen, How can install it on Debian? |
| 20:40.59 | babilen | JohnnyL: They don't work? Don't work how? |
| 20:41.04 | babilen | NewDebian1: Install what? |
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| 20:41.11 | JohnnyL | babilen: not installed? |
| 20:41.23 | JohnnyL | command not found on them all. |
| 20:41.41 | NewDebian1 | babilen, awesome |
| 20:41.47 | JohnnyL | and man 1 speaker -test yields: man: can't resolve /usr/share/man/man1/speaker-test.1.gz: No such file or directory |
| 20:41.51 | martman | is the best/easiest way to start kernel development by getting the sources like this: apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r) |
| 20:41.55 | babilen | !tell JohnnyL -about install alsa |
| 20:41.57 | martman | and compile like this fakeroot make-kpkg --append-to-version=martman binary |
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| 20:42.06 | JohnnyL | ? |
| 20:42.15 | JohnnyL | your bot is fail. |
| 20:42.21 | babilen | NewDebian1: yes, you can install that later. I wouldn't start with it though. Install Gnome and take it from there. |
| 20:42.30 | babilen | JohnnyL: How so? |
| 20:42.59 | NewDebian1 | babilen, Okay and thank you so so so much for you. |
| 20:43.00 | JohnnyL | babilen: cause I don't see any response here. |
| 20:43.00 | RichiH | Justin: i do _not_ want unattended upgrades |
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| 20:43.12 | JohnnyL | that bot is fail because there is not bot. |
| 20:43.13 | babilen | JohnnyL: It sent you a private message |
| 20:43.17 | JohnnyL | ah ok |
| 20:43.31 | babilen | NewDebian1: You are welcome -- Just come back if you have any questions |
| 20:44.00 | JohnnyL | bash: aplay: command not found |
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| 20:44.42 | babilen | JohnnyL: Did you install alsa-utils as requested in the factoid sent to you by dpkg (our bot) ? |
| 20:45.05 | JohnnyL | a minute ago. trying |
| 20:45.06 | Justin | JohnnyL: there are ways to find out what package a program is in and install it. I suggest you learn them |
| 20:45.28 | babilen | !tell JohnnyL -about apt-file |
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| 20:47.11 | JohnnyL | aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 z, Mono |
| 20:47.18 | JohnnyL | there is no sound. shouldi reboot? |
| 20:47.44 | babilen | JohnnyL: did you unmute all channels? |
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| 20:48.10 | babilen | JohnnyL: does "speaker-test -t wav" produce output? Is your user member of the "audio" group and did you relogin after that? |
| 20:48.15 | babilen | !alsa checklist |
| 20:48.15 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) squeeze: purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>. |
| 20:48.21 | babilen | JohnnyL: Essentially ^^^^ |
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| 20:48.37 | JohnnyL | ok |
| 20:48.43 | babilen | JohnnyL: You could also try running "alsactl init" as root, but please try the checklist first and report on each item in there |
| 20:48.55 | ardian | Hi I didn't select a mirror while I was installing Debian, how do I enable my apt mirrors ? |
| 20:49.16 | babilen | JohnnyL: Did you actually receive the private messages dpkg sent you? |
| 20:49.45 | JohnnyL | yes, processing. |
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| 20:52.14 | ripero | if I create a root cron job with passwd -l <username>, I can block an user from logging in... is there any way to only disallow logging in via the graphical desktop, but keep the ability to log in through terminal sessions? |
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| 20:55.37 | JohnnyL | babilen: works great now. |
| 20:55.50 | JohnnyL | gives babilen a great big bear hug. |
| 20:55.53 | JohnnyL | thank you! |
| 20:56.12 | JohnnyL | have a great tranksgiving if your from the usa! |
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| 20:56.31 | babilen | is not |
| 20:56.37 | babilen | JohnnyL: You are welcome :) |
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| 20:59.59 | ardian | My source.list is empty where can I get them ? would be good near Slovenia |
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| 21:00.20 | WilliamEDIS | dobry den |
| 21:00.25 | WilliamEDIS | there is a node here in maribor |
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| 21:01.04 | quietone | is there a keyboard shortcut for mouse middle click? |
| 21:01.07 | fresco | ciao |
| 21:01.14 | WilliamEDIS | ftp.si.debian.org ardian |
| 21:01.30 | fresco | !list |
| 21:01.31 | dpkg | fresco: vedi http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 21:01.33 | WilliamEDIS | db http://ftp.si.debian.org/debian/ squeeze |
| 21:01.36 | WilliamEDIS | *main |
| 21:02.41 | tremon | there is also apt-spy |
| 21:03.05 | babilen | ardian: Which version of Debian do you use? |
| 21:03.17 | ardian | babilen, squeeze |
| 21:03.24 | ardian | deb http://ftp.si.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main |
| 21:03.24 | ardian | deb-src http://ftp.si.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main |
| 21:03.29 | babilen | dpkg: tell ardian -about make squeeze sources.list |
| 21:03.29 | ardian | is this correct ? |
| 21:03.38 | babilen | dpkg: tell ardian -about http.debian.net |
| 21:03.50 | babilen | ardian: That would work as well, yes |
| 21:04.01 | ardian | thank you |
| 21:04.16 | babilen | ardian: You are missing the security repository and other suites though |
| 21:04.41 | ardian | deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 201209$ |
| 21:04.41 | ardian | deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main |
| 21:04.41 | ardian | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main |
| 21:04.48 | ardian | These 2 are there |
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| 21:05.20 | babilen | ardian: http://paste.debian.net/211632/ would be a complete sources.list with all bells&whistles |
| 21:05.47 | babilen | ardian: But your sources.list is fine too -- I would remove the CD entry though. |
| 21:05.52 | ardian | babilen, thank you again |
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| 21:06.10 | ardian | I wasn't sure where I can get the list |
| 21:06.28 | babilen | ardian: You are welcome -- You should be able to run "apt-get update" without errors now. |
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| 21:08.38 | fresco | ciao |
| 21:08.47 | fresco | !list |
| 21:08.48 | dpkg | fresco: Debian è un sistema operativo composto di software libero non quella gratis. Vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per sapere di più. |
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| 21:09.30 | babilen | fresco: No warez here. You might want to try free software and liberate yourself from your perceived "need" to commit crimes |
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| 21:10.03 | WilliamEDIS | lol |
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| 21:13.02 | remote | muahaha |
| 21:13.11 | remote | Amen. |
| 21:13.51 | joules | Hi, I have a problem with users being about to mount external devices plugged into the server. Each gets a popup from their DE (gnome, kde) once the device gets attached, each can mount it and if another mounts it, each can read it too. Any tips? |
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| 21:16.30 | streuner_ | remote, we support free software (DFSG), please keep that in mind... |
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| 21:23.07 | joules | you promote or advocate? |
| 21:23.28 | joules | i don't promote free software at all. |
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| 21:24.31 | invariant | How can I control what dpkg-reconfigure foopackage does without manually selecting the right value? |
| 21:24.37 | tremon | joules: what is your setup? remote X terminals through xdmcp? |
| 21:25.03 | joules | tremon: I have both LDM (LSTP) and XDMCP |
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| 21:25.11 | tremon | I don't think you want remote users to be members of the plugdev group |
| 21:25.18 | joules | there not. |
| 21:25.21 | joules | they're |
| 21:25.26 | tremon | hmm... |
| 21:25.32 | quietone | and how do I enable a keyboard beep? |
| 21:25.33 | joules | they are only members of the fuse group. |
| 21:25.42 | tremon | then it's a consolekit/policykit issue I think |
| 21:25.48 | joules | ok |
| 21:25.51 | JohnnyL | bye |
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| 21:27.45 | tremon | invariant: it's called debconf pre-seeding. Most documentation you will is find about automating installs, but the same principle applies to debconf-set-selections |
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| 21:28.37 | tremon | joules: I'm no expert on policykit, but maybe http://wiki.debian.org/PolicyKit can be a starting point |
| 21:28.57 | joules | thanks. |
| 21:29.24 | joules | ahh yes.. |
| 21:29.30 | tremon | notes a big ToDo on that page |
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| 21:29.48 | tremon | well at least there's an lwn link :) |
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| 21:34.42 | joules | ok..so whats the app? |
| 21:35.01 | joules | or /etc/???? |
| 21:35.03 | joules | =) |
| 21:35.44 | tremon | I would hope that either the man page or the config would contain examples and/or explanation |
| 21:35.58 | tremon | policykit is not installed on my system, so can't check it here |
| 21:36.01 | joules | /etc/polkit-1 is basically empty |
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| 21:40.10 | invariant | tremon, how do I tell dpkg-reconfigure to only reconfigure the options for package foo? |
| 21:40.17 | MrMaDSeN | hmmm just rebooted a debain vm... and network is gone |
| 21:40.19 | MrMaDSeN | :( |
| 21:40.26 | MrMaDSeN | debian* ofc |
| 21:41.02 | wols | invariant: dpkg-reconfigure foo |
| 21:41.06 | tremon | invariant: dpkg-reconfigure foo will only reconfigure package foo |
| 21:41.11 | invariant | tremon, or rather for every new setting which has just been set via the previous set selection? |
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| 21:41.37 | joules | tremon: that page is broken, those man pages return the man page fr SoFaceSet... |
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| 21:43.09 | tremon | invariant: man dpkg-reconfigure, I think you want -u |
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| 21:43.27 | invariant | tremon, I read the man page, but I didn't understand it. |
| 21:43.36 | invariant | tremon, unseen is ambiguous. |
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| 21:44.02 | invariant | tremon, I want the unapplied settings from the last debconf-set-selections to be applied. |
| 21:44.19 | invariant | The manual should say that, instead of 'unseen'. |
| 21:45.05 | invariant | The way it has been written it suggests that answers which had already been answered but of which the answer changed are not looked at. |
| 21:45.14 | tremon | I agree, but in its defense, the line above that says "by default, all questions are shown, even if they have already been answered" |
| 21:45.44 | tremon | which implies that unseen == unanswered, but you're right that it's not explicit |
| 21:46.29 | invariant | tremon, but the questions had already been answered. |
| 21:46.39 | tremon | joules: I have no idea how to configure policykit, but the wiki screenshot suggests there may be a gui to configure it? |
| 21:46.49 | invariant | tremon, it's just that debconf-set-selections set a different answer. |
| 21:47.08 | invariant | tremon, dpkg-reconfigure -u still needs an argument. |
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| 21:47.35 | tremon | invariant: dpkg-reconfigure always reconfigures the entire package. the -u, -a and -p only determine which questions are asked again |
| 21:48.09 | invariant | tremon, clear. Thank you |
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| 21:49.51 | tremon | (slight correction: -a has nothing to do with the question, it select which packages, not which questions. duh) |
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| 21:49.58 | joules | tremon: i thought plugdev would do it. |
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| 21:51.18 | tremon | joules: that was my first guess too, but you said they were not members of that group. The only other mechanism I know of is through the *kit tools |
| 21:51.51 | tremon | emphasizes "that I know of" |
| 21:51.59 | gnarface | argh |
| 21:52.09 | gnarface | my tls key for slapd expired and i need to make a new one and its not working |
| 21:52.12 | gnarface | wtf did i forget? |
| 21:52.21 | gnarface | what's special about the creation process for openldap keys |
| 21:52.21 | gnarface | ? |
| 21:52.42 | tremon | invariant: man 7 debconf has a section on unattended package installation btw |
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| 21:53.22 | invariant | tremon, which package do you need to have installed for that to work? |
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| 21:53.35 | tremon | http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=debconf&apropos=0&sektion=7&manpath=Debian+6.0+squeeze&format=html&locale=en |
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| 21:54.36 | tremon | invariant: ^ any package that provides www-browser will do :) |
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| 22:14.06 | JohnFlux | I have debian squeeze and trying to install ssl-cert on it |
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| 22:15.37 | yvesD | non-critical question: is it possible to add an .iso to transmission to keep it up for folks. i am missing a tracker. can i just take linuxtracker.org or is there some of debian. all i want is to share the debian.iso that i downloaded on my desktop to keep it in transmission from my laptop. |
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| 22:17.33 | eni23 | yvesD: you need the torrent for this |
| 22:19.01 | yvesD | eni23: i created the torrent file. but without the tracker it will not be published for everyone, like you just downloaded it from debian.org and just keep it running |
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| 22:20.41 | eni23 | yes you need the torrent from debian.org. but afaik best way to download debian is via http/ftp. there are alot of mirors from universitys etc |
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| 22:21.31 | gnarface | i really need help here guys. wtf am i forgetting about openldap and whatever its picky about keys for? |
| 22:21.40 | gnarface | i must be missing the right option when i make my CSR |
| 22:21.57 | gnarface | i have a local demoCA i signed these keys with before last year but now i can't figure out why i can't replace them |
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| 22:22.45 | Walex2 | gnarface: do you want to change keys or just the certificate? |
| 22:23.14 | Walex2 | gnarface: anyhow, dump the new certificate and the old one with 'openssl -text -noout -in ...' and check the differences |
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| 22:23.52 | gnarface | Walex2: its possible that the distinction between the term "key" and "certificate" are meaningless and confusing to me |
| 22:23.52 | yvesD | not shure if you understand me. i downloaded several .iso in the past time on my desktop. and i keep them running in transmission on my desktop so they get distributed. like the homepage (debian.org) tells to do to share them. now that i have them i want to put them into transmission on my laptop to share them like i just downloaded them. i think this works over trackers. but nevermind. as i said. non-critical question |
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| 22:25.08 | gnarface | Walex2: my keys/certificates whatever you call them expired. i have a private certificate authority (the "demoCA" one the tutorials walk you through to create) that i made these keys with for the ldap server last year. now they're expired and i'm trying to make new ones but the new ones aren't being accepted by nslcd and i cna't figure out why. i don't recall doing anything weird to create them last time |
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| 22:26.40 | Walex2 | gnarface: you can sign again your old keys, and crate a new certificate for the same keys. |
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| 22:27.05 | Walex2 | gnarface: anyhow, compare old and new certificate decoded as in the above... |
| 22:27.15 | gnarface | Walex2: i understand the theory. keep in mind i've done this about a thousand times and today its not working. |
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| 22:27.43 | gnarface | Walex2: the new keys were visually identical, format-wise. |
| 22:28.12 | Sean-Der | I have a server where Bash is randomly locking over SSH. Nothing in dmesg, I can reconnect fine with tmux and other servers in the Hypervisor are fine. Any ideas? |
| 22:28.20 | Sean-Der | It can't be a HW issue correct? |
| 22:29.20 | eni23 | Sean-Der: idk but are you running something like fail2ban? |
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| 22:29.28 | gnarface | Sean-Der: it could. but its probably your network connection. |
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| 22:30.15 | Sean-Der | I am running fail2ban, I will kill that to try and help. Didn't even think to debug that. |
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| 22:30.49 | Sean-Der | gnarface: The other VMs in the same Hypervisor are fine though, its weird because the session doesn't drag at all. Then it just locks |
| 22:30.56 | eni23 | Sean-Der: that got me once too. just look in iptables if you are blocked |
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| 22:31.30 | Sean-Der | I flushed the iptables, hopefully this will clear up. It just popped up out of no where :/ |
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| 22:32.29 | eni23 | if its that you should search why this is happening? |
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| 22:35.53 | Sean-Der | eni23: Yea if its really a Fail2ban issue I will make sure to file a bug report. I am thinking gnarface is right though, I RDP'ed in and then SSHed from there and its working perfectly |
| 22:37.00 | gnarface | Sean-Der: if its a virtualized guest machine or on some overloaded cloud backend it could be *their* network connection |
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| 22:39.17 | milad | hi, can i use an eclipse for (PHP & C++) or should i install different versions of eclipse !? |
| 22:41.05 | abrotman | you can use eclipse with a plugin maybe |
| 22:41.12 | abrotman | or bluefish, or anjuta |
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| 22:42.05 | jalalsfs | I downloaded Debian.iso image and I want to copy it to USB to install Debian from USB how can I do it? |
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| 22:42.29 | milad | jalalsfs, are you using linux ? |
| 22:42.43 | jalalsfs | milad, Yeah, I'm using Fedora. |
| 22:43.31 | milad | unetbootin |
| 22:44.17 | jalalsfs | milad, But the file which I downloaded not a live system, it's just installation. |
| 22:44.24 | jalalsfs | milad, Is that okay? |
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| 22:44.54 | zykotick9 | jalalsfs: fyi, debian isos are hybrid cd/usb, so you can actually just cat or dd them to usb drives... |
| 22:45.23 | milad | fedora has a good guide also : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB - |
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| 22:45.53 | jalalsfs | zykotick9, Oh, thank you. |
| 22:46.06 | jalalsfs | milad, Thanks, |
| 22:46.48 | milad | ;) |
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| 22:50.14 | abrotman | you sohuldn't use unetbootin |
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| 22:54.17 | bluesm | Hi. |
| 22:54.34 | bluesm | What "find" command will search, when I pass the name of file without -name ? |
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| 22:54.43 | bluesm | Say find ./ any_name ? |
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| 23:04.04 | jren207 | Hi all, I seem to be having a problem getting my Atheros wireless N card to work in Squeeze. The card is listed in lspci, but I get a message at boot and in dmesg along the lines of "no parent found for of device". The ath9k module doesn't get automatically loaded, but even when I add it to /etc/modules it still can't load the card correctly. I've attached some more info here: http://paste.de |
| 23:04.05 | jren207 | bian.net/211665/ |
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| 23:07.05 | KettleCooked | I edited sources.list to add unstable channel, then installed software (deluge). I have now removed that software and purged it, and it uninstalled a lot of things, like build-essential. Now when I try to install build-essential (removed unstable channels from sources.list already) I get error: "build-essential : Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or libc-dev". Any hint on |
| 23:07.05 | KettleCooked | how I can clean this mess? |
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| 23:07.25 | boubakr92 | Hello, |
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| 23:08.51 | zykotick9 | jren207: what is the pciid of your card? it looks like 168c:001c, find it using "lspci -nn | grep -i network" |
| 23:09.10 | [bma] | paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file KettleCooked - sounds like you deleted the wrong entries |
| 23:09.52 | KettleCooked | [bma]: http://pastebin.com/DiXmvt2J |
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| 23:10.33 | KettleCooked | the last two are the ones from before (installing deluge software), commented those out after uninstalling deluge |
| 23:10.58 | boubakr92 | hello, is there any one can help me in C and Unix APi ? |
| 23:12.28 | KettleCooked | [bma]: this is an example error I get: http://pastebin.com/GY25MtS1 |
| 23:12.43 | jren207 | @zykotick9 it's 168c:0030 |
| 23:12.49 | zykotick9 | judd: pciid 168c:0030 |
| 23:12.50 | judd | [168c:0030] is 'AR9300 Wireless LAN adaptor' from 'Atheros Communications Inc.' with no known kernel module in squeeze but has kernel module 'ath9k' in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=168c:0030 http://wiki.debian.org/ath9k_htc http://wiki.debian.org/ath9k |
| 23:13.56 | jren207 | will I need to use a backported kernel? |
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| 23:14.32 | zykotick9 | jren207: i hope that works for you... judd seems to suggest you need sid :( but i'm not sure! |
| 23:14.38 | shingouz | KettleCooked: you had stable there, then you added unstable on the same computer, then did apt-get update and installed the $needed_software? and you did not do any pinning on the box to keep it somewhat sane? |
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| 23:16.46 | KettleCooked | shingouz: I think I did pinning, this was my /etc/apt/preferences file: http://pastebin.com/h1sdWz2N |
| 23:16.49 | linlin | hey, ive got a panasonic toughbook with a touchscreen that I like to run debian on...anyone know of a way to calibrate the digitizer in the touchscreen under debian? its definetly off kilter. on windows panasonic offers a utility to do it but there is no linux port of it. |
| 23:16.56 | jren207 | zykotick9: actually I'd installed wheezy and the card was detected and worked to a certain extent, but I couldn't get wireless N to work, so it was suggested to go back and try squeeze. I'll go and try a backport of wheezy kernel, then i'll try sid as a last resort |
| 23:17.52 | [bma] | KettleCooked: what error do you get if you try to install gcc? |
| 23:18.18 | shingouz | KettleCooked: i have a bad feeling that you will get to do some interesting things with apt-get and dpkg there to get the versions even somewhat close to what they should be |
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| 23:19.22 | KettleCooked | [bma]: http://pastebin.com/kfrFJ2dE (added some extra tries after gcc oen) |
| 23:19.28 | shingouz | KettleCooked: basically, you will soon learn how to install packages manually, maybe even forcing some loopbreaks. not fun |
| 23:19.48 | KettleCooked | live and learn huh :) |
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| 23:20.20 | KettleCooked | shingouz: what do you think about this solution: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/33140/debian-squeeze-stable-broken-packages-after-installing-something-from-wheezy |
| 23:20.27 | [bma] | running with -f *may* be able to resolve it, but you'll need to be very careful about what you let it remove |
| 23:20.44 | [bma] | as it's pretty easy to bugger essential packages using -f |
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| 23:21.25 | shingouz | KettleCooked: now that you have the unstable out of the sources.list, apt-get update and then see what happens. if it still barfs, things will get interesting |
| 23:22.12 | KettleCooked | shingouz: yeah even after update, apt-get installing build-essential gives me the same error |
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| 23:23.40 | KettleCooked | Not sure if should try and fix this or start reading up on good ways to backup a Debian system |
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| 23:25.12 | [bma] | If you're at that stage KettleCooked, you might as well try an apt-get -f install |
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| 23:25.20 | [bma] | but be warned that could suggest removing essential packages |
| 23:25.22 | shingouz | KettleCooked: do a man dpkg and see what it says about things like loop breaks and force. do the same on apt-get. the oops you have there should be recoverable but it will take a lot of coffee, cigarrettes and tylenol. plus some blood, sweat and tears |
| 23:25.42 | [bma] | Joys of dependancy hell :P |
| 23:26.17 | KettleCooked | [bma]: I tried apt-get -f install build-essential and I get the same exact error, am I doing it wrong? |
| 23:26.20 | shingouz | [bma]: not really, just that he has played with sid and now he gets to keep the pieces... |
| 23:26.30 | KettleCooked | shingouz: what is sid? |
| 23:26.34 | shingouz | KettleCooked: apt-get -f install |
| 23:26.45 | [bma] | no build-essential on the end |
| 23:26.49 | shingouz | KettleCooked: not apt-get -f install $package |
| 23:26.57 | shingouz | KettleCooked: Sid is unstable |
| 23:26.59 | [bma] | but like I said, check what it suggests doing before hitting Y |
| 23:27.06 | jhutchins_wk | KettleCooked: You have a situation where you have pinned something that is preventing you from installing the current build environment. |
| 23:27.11 | KettleCooked | Ok well I tried that now, it only gives "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 123 not upgraded." |
| 23:27.24 | jhutchins_wk | KettleCooked: If you have a mixed system with packages from more than one release you can expect problems like this. |
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| 23:27.47 | nmz787__ | hi |
| 23:27.52 | KettleCooked | jhutchins_wk: it sounds like I should try and 'unpin' it, maybe? if possible |
| 23:27.56 | jhutchins_wk | KettleCooked: This is not something that's broken, it is a situation you have (perhaps inadvertently) requested. |
| 23:27.58 | nmz787__ | i just installed amd64 fresh on my lenovo e420 laptop |
| 23:28.08 | nmz787__ | and i didnt add my wifi network during setup |
| 23:28.17 | jhutchins_wk | KettleCooked: Did you pastebin your sources.list? |
| 23:28.18 | nmz787__ | it seems i dont have ifconfig iwconfig or network-manager |
| 23:28.22 | KettleCooked | jhutchins_wk: yes absolutely, I know I messed up the system, the cost of learning I suppose |
| 23:28.40 | KettleCooked | jhutchins_wk: http://pastebin.com/DiXmvt2J |
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| 23:28.44 | nmz787__ | i do have a wired ethernet jack, but i havent connected it yet |
| 23:28.48 | jhutchins_wk | KettleCooked: Experience is proportional to data destroyed. |
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| 23:29.02 | jhutchins_wk | nmz787__: How did you install? |
| 23:29.12 | engla | nmz787__: connect it and install network-manager? |
| 23:29.24 | nmz787__ | i dd'ed the first cd iso to a USB drive |
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| 23:30.10 | jhutchins_wk | KettleCooked: Do you have unstable packages installed? |
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| 23:30.41 | jhutchins_wk | nmz787__: I think you want the network-tools metapackage, let me check. |
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| 23:31.49 | KettleCooked | jhutchins_wk: I don't think so. I had those unstable deb-lines uncommented, and I installed 'deluge' (torrent server). Then I removed those packages, with --purge. Then I edited back my sources.list to the pastebin version, tried installing build-essential because all of I sudden I don't have a compiler on the system |
| 23:31.50 | nmz787__ | ok i plugged ethernet in and restarted /etc/init.d/networking |
| 23:31.58 | nmz787__ | but i can't ping google |
| 23:32.17 | jhutchins_wk | nmz787__: See what happens if you try to install netbase, network-tools, ifupdown, and iproute (I would expect those to be interdependent, but wth. |
| 23:32.24 | jhutchins_wk | nmz787__: It should find them on the CD. |
| 23:32.29 | nmz787__ | ahh |
| 23:32.29 | nmz787__ | ok |
| 23:33.03 | jhutchins_wk | The installer's a bit of a mystery to me, once I get a system built I never see it again, and I'm not currently building many Debian systems. |
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| 23:33.29 | nmz787__ | it cant find network-tools |
| 23:33.37 | nmz787__ | others are already installed |
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| 23:35.03 | nmz787__ | oh maybe its net-tools |
| 23:35.25 | jhutchins_wk | nmz787__: Yes, sorry. |
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| 23:35.54 | jhutchins_wk | You do know you need to be root to run network configuration stuff? |
| 23:35.55 | nmz787__ | oh wait |
| 23:36.00 | nmz787__ | ifconfig and stuff is there |
| 23:36.05 | nmz787__ | but my user doesnt see them |
| 23:36.10 | nmz787__ | after i su |
| 23:36.12 | jhutchins_wk | nmz787__: They're in sbin. |
| 23:36.14 | nmz787__ | i can see them |
| 23:36.15 | jhutchins_wk | su - |
| 23:36.32 | jhutchins_wk | sbin isn't in regular users' path. |
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| 23:36.41 | nmz787__ | err, too much UBUNTU for the past 5 years |
| 23:37.01 | nmz787__ | so if i apt-get network-manager |
| 23:37.07 | nmz787__ | will it auto work for my user? |
| 23:37.32 | vyadhaka | is there a PC application that syncs files across LAN, I have windows and Nix PCs and would like to have the same files on each system. Like Dropbox but for LAN and where I have full control of the service |
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| 23:38.22 | engla | nmz787__: you'll need firmware for your wireless card (I guess) |
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| 23:38.35 | jhutchins_wk | You'll need a front-end. |
| 23:38.50 | jhutchins_wk | Some cards need firmware, many don't. |
| 23:39.30 | jhutchins_wk | vyadhaka: Best solution is to have one system act as a server and share the files. |
| 23:39.50 | jhutchins_wk | vyadhaka: Since you want windows access either share from windows or use samba. |
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| 23:40.41 | jhutchins_wk | vyadhaka: Tools for actually synchronising files in Windows look very primitive next to Linux tools. |
| 23:41.19 | KettleCooked | jhutchins_wk: I added back the unstable channel, did apt-get update, and trying "apt-get remove libc6" takes a long time then suggests removing about ~200 packages, "You are about to do something potentially harmful". Will free 647 MB disk space though, so that's something to help me look at it positively. |
| 23:41.58 | jhutchins_wk | KettleCooked: hat was probably a bad idea. |
| 23:42.03 | jhutchins_wk | !partial downgrade |
| 23:42.04 | dpkg | This may or may not work for you, but if you've got nothing to lose then try it. (a) Change sources.list (b) aptitude update (c) aptitude and then search for the upgraded packages, hit enter on them, select the correct version (d) do the same for libc6 (e) search for broken packages by pressing "b" and then fix them in the same way (f) once you have no more broken packages, hit 'g' See <not available> |
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| 23:42.54 | jhutchins_wk | KettleCooked: Oh, wait, you just updated, you didn't upgrade. |
| 23:43.00 | KettleCooked | yep |
| 23:43.06 | jhutchins_wk | KettleCooked: You want unstable OUT of the sources list first. |
| 23:43.14 | KettleCooked | alright, doing that now |
| 23:43.24 | jhutchins_wk | Then the above formula might work. |
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| 23:43.40 | jhutchins_wk | you can also remove things with dpkg - it's not as sensitive about dependencies. |
| 23:43.44 | vyadhaka | jhutchins_wk: I currently use Samba and also have a Debian file server set-up but it has limitations. I will need server access all the time and when I am away from home and dont have access to internet, then I am stuck. IF the files are replicated across the PCs, I get redundancy and I dont have to worry about having 24/7 access to the file server. I dont mind replacing windows OS with Debian, I am just waiting for weezey |
| 23:43.56 | KettleCooked | I think that'll take me back a step, to not being able to install libc6 due to that dependency error |
| 23:44.17 | KettleCooked | trying it now though |
| 23:44.27 | jhutchins_wk | KettleCooked: Right, you need to remove any packages that were installed from unstable. |
| 23:44.50 | KettleCooked | jhutchins_wk: butcan I remove them while I have removed unstable channel from sources.list? it doesn't have to be there while removing them? |
| 23:45.06 | jhutchins_wk | vyadhaka: rsync is the tool to do the actual synchronization, not sure what you would prefer to set it up/schedule it. |
| 23:45.32 | jhutchins_wk | KettleCooked: Right, you would only need it there for adding files, not for removing them. |
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| 23:46.36 | vyadhaka | jhutchins_wk: I guess with trial or error I can get rsynch to achieve what I want. But was hoping there might be something out there that already does this |
| 23:46.54 | jhutchins_wk | vyadhaka: If you set your system up so that you can access the home server via ssh you can re-sync over that. |
| 23:47.00 | KettleCooked | I got something about libasound2 now, so removing that package does a lot of stuff. I'm hopeful. |
| 23:47.28 | KettleCooked | vyadhaka: The upside is that rsync is very easy, syntax-wise. Set it up at work with cron in half an hour |
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| 23:50.29 | Delf | Has compiz been removed from the wheezy repo? |
| 23:50.45 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions comiz |
| 23:50.46 | judd | No package named 'comiz' was found in i386. |
| 23:50.50 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions compiz |
| 23:50.51 | judd | Package: compiz on i386 -- lenny: 0.7.6-7; squeeze: 0.8.4-4; sid: 0.8.4-5.2; experimental: 0.9.2.1+git20110226.f059fae9-4 |
| 23:51.05 | jhutchins_wk | Delf: Looks like. |
| 23:51.18 | Delf | I don't understand. |
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| 23:51.35 | jhutchins_wk | Delf: It's testing. |
| 23:51.48 | Delf | Not sid? |
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| 23:52.34 | jhutchins_wk | Delf: Meaning testing has stuff removed sometimes, especially if it's broken. |
| 23:52.45 | vyadhaka | jhutchins_wk: yes I have SSH access to the server but I dont have internet access all the time. I travel a lot. So when i come home I would like the files on my laptop to synch with the Desktop PC. Same way if I change files on the desktop, I would like for the files to synch across to the laptop. That way I dont have to have all the systems on all time. |
| 23:53.13 | jhutchins_wk | vyadhaka: Ok. |
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