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| 00:01.41 | jhutchins_wk | vyadhaka: There might be some sort of program to automate this, but I'm not aware of it. Even the biggest Linux installation I know of just schedules rsync to run with the right arguments every fifteen minutes or whatever. |
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| 00:14.42 | txomon|home | can anyone help me configuring the sound in debian? I can't hear anything... |
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| 00:15.13 | JohnnyL | txomon|home: i can help. |
| 00:15.14 | txomon|home | is rebooting to see if a fix in debian's wiki about sound works... |
| 00:15.15 | txomon|home | ok |
| 00:15.23 | txomon|home | rebooting and comming back |
| 00:15.24 | JohnnyL | alsa card? |
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| 00:15.33 | txomon|home | JohnnyL, no idea |
| 00:15.37 | txomon|home | intel one |
| 00:15.49 | JohnnyL | type: alsactl init |
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| 00:16.12 | JohnnyL | i'll be here for a bit more. |
| 00:16.29 | txomon|home | kk |
| 00:16.43 | roothorick | I want to force modesetting off, because this system is gonna be outputting to an arcade monitor that only supports one mode and doesn't have any DDC logic. I tried nomodeset in /etc/default/grub but it keeps switching to a higher res anyway. How do I turn it off? |
| 00:17.02 | jagginess | roothorick, wtf ? |
| 00:17.04 | roothorick | er, EDID, whatever |
| 00:17.30 | roothorick | it's a squeeze install on a USB HDD |
| 00:17.45 | jagginess | roothorick, what's an arcade monitor? |
| 00:17.54 | jagginess | roothorick, you mean just a textual login? |
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| 00:18.27 | roothorick | jagginess: pretty much what it sounds like, a monitor built to connect to an arcade board. The target in this case is made for what's called "high res" in that industry which is really 640x480p |
| 00:18.48 | roothorick | which most of the time are connected to PC based hardware |
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| 00:19.01 | jagginess | roothorick, so you want just a gui logon, and don't want ctl-alt-f1 possible |
| 00:19.01 | roothorick | the problem is, this monitor doesn't report EDID, and will ONLY do 640x480 |
| 00:19.07 | roothorick | no no |
| 00:19.15 | roothorick | I have a text login... but it's switching to some high resolution |
| 00:19.21 | txomon|home | JohnnyL, didn't work |
| 00:19.25 | txomon|home | I am ready now |
| 00:19.35 | jagginess | roothorick, what's your video chipset? |
| 00:19.39 | roothorick | I need it to NOT do that and only do 640x480 |
| 00:19.56 | roothorick | I'm testing it on a GeForce 6150m laptop, the ultimate target has a GeForce FX5200 |
| 00:20.09 | roothorick | and no, that cannot be changed, arcade computers be picky about hardware |
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| 00:20.48 | roothorick | if it doesn't detect a FX5200, literally, it won't boot |
| 00:21.05 | JohnnyL | txomon|go to alsamixer. |
| 00:21.09 | JohnnyL | adjust the levels. |
| 00:21.13 | roothorick | well, it's more complicated than that, but yeah, it MUST be a FX5200 |
| 00:21.19 | JohnnyL | txomon|home: what did it say? |
| 00:22.05 | txomon|home | JohnnyL, it doesn't work, already tried moving everything |
| 00:22.07 | jagginess | roothorick, if you don't have um.. Edid data, then maybe you can enforce vesa.. try to use standard vesa vert/horiz timings |
| 00:22.09 | txomon|home | 2 sound cards detected |
| 00:22.12 | txomon|home | and lots of things more |
| 00:22.23 | roothorick | jagginess: where do I put that though? |
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| 00:22.43 | jagginess | roothorick, wouldnt need to.. the X server should automatically fallback to vesa |
| 00:22.45 | JohnnyL | txomon|home: what did it say? |
| 00:22.49 | txomon|home | JohnnyL, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1378411/ |
| 00:23.08 | txomon|home | just appears one master in alsamixer |
| 00:23.14 | jagginess | roothorick, but if it fails to, then maybe you can try to enforce it |
| 00:23.16 | txomon|home | in default card |
| 00:23.33 | txomon|home | in the intel one, a lot of more ones, all to maximun volume |
| 00:23.41 | JohnnyL | txomon|home: what does 'alsactl init' say? |
| 00:23.42 | roothorick | jagginess: I'm not even in X yet. The console is being set to some high resolution |
| 00:23.55 | txomon|home | JohnnyL, command doesn't exist |
| 00:23.59 | roothorick | I know how to deal with X, but I want to be able to see the console when it's in the actual machine with its single-res no-EDID monitor |
| 00:24.14 | txomon|home | ok, now I tried as sudo |
| 00:24.48 | JohnnyL | txomon| install alsa-base |
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| 00:24.52 | txomon|home | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1378415/ |
| 00:25.04 | txomon|home | JohnnyL, didn't know I had to do it on sudo |
| 00:25.11 | txomon|home | done, that is the output |
| 00:25.35 | txomon|home | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1378415/ |
| 00:26.16 | JohnnyL | txomon|home: ok great |
| 00:26.22 | JohnnyL | did you ajudt the alsamixer? |
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| 00:26.42 | txomon|home | yes, all to maximum but didn't work :( |
| 00:26.59 | txomon|home | using gnome-shell's config panel also but neither worked |
| 00:27.03 | JohnnyL | you may have to enter/exit/enter the mixer. |
| 00:27.10 | JohnnyL | lspci -nn| grep -i audio |
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| 00:27.25 | JohnnyL | try |
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| 00:28.18 | JohnnyL | aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav |
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| 00:28.39 | txomon|home | JohnnyL, it seems now detected new hw |
| 00:28.43 | JohnnyL | yay! |
| 00:28.54 | txomon|home | because in the gnome shell panel now appear 15 options |
| 00:28.57 | txomon|home | in hardware... |
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| 00:29.11 | JohnnyL | someone should fix that' reenter' bug. |
| 00:29.21 | matip_ | I have a zone in ns.foo.com.inv like this one: http://paste.kde.org/613154/ |
| 00:29.26 | txomon|home | this is not sane |
| 00:29.28 | matip_ | why named-checkzone ns.foo.com.inv ns.foo.com.inv gives me an error? |
| 00:29.46 | roothorick | what runs just before keymap during a typical init? |
| 00:29.47 | matip_ | does it make sense? something is wrong but I can't figure out |
| 00:30.08 | bluesm | How to set Proxy on debian ? |
| 00:30.13 | matip_ | it says "zone ns.foo.com.inv/IN: NS 'ns.ns.foo.com.inv' has no address records (A or AAAA)" |
| 00:30.32 | matip_ | (of course it's not foo.com in the real problem) |
| 00:31.15 | JohnnyL | bluesm, got to system settings, network. |
| 00:31.19 | JohnnyL | -t |
| 00:31.35 | txomon|home | JohnnyL, http://imagebin.org/236876 |
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| 00:31.46 | txomon|home | see that menu TT! |
| 00:31.59 | matip_ | any idea? |
| 00:32.06 | matip_ | or any other channel in which I can ask? |
| 00:32.30 | JohnnyL | txomon|home: i'd uninstall all the ones you don't need. |
| 00:32.40 | txomon|home | JohnnyL, tip? |
| 00:32.56 | JohnnyL | apt-get --purse remove EXTRA-BLAH-SOUND-DRIVER-HERE |
| 00:32.57 | txomon|home | matip_, I long ago configured my dns server and got nut about it |
| 00:33.01 | JohnnyL | apt-get --purge remove EXTRA-BLAH-SOUND-DRIVER-HERE |
| 00:33.07 | matip_ | haha txomon|home |
| 00:33.15 | txomon|home | JohnnyL, apt-get purge exists |
| 00:33.38 | txomon|home | matip_, no one answered about anything, at the end doing tests and tests, succeeded |
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| 00:34.03 | JohnnyL | txomon|home: if it works, don't change a thing. |
| 00:34.07 | matip_ | I suppose it'll work as well |
| 00:34.09 | JohnnyL | thats what I always say. |
| 00:34.11 | txomon|home | JohnnyL, wont xD |
| 00:34.14 | matip_ | what is failing is the reverse lookup |
| 00:34.18 | matip_ | the other one is fine |
| 00:34.30 | txomon|home | matip_, that isn't the reverse lookup file.... |
| 00:34.41 | matip_ | it should be :P |
| 00:34.51 | matip_ | it's supposed to be, or I'm getting it wrongly |
| 00:35.55 | JohnnyL | txomon|home: wont is future tense. |
| 00:36.15 | txomon|home | matip_, how did you name it? |
| 00:36.34 | JohnnyL | txomon|home: you may want to disable the extra sound card(s). Perhaps your mother board has one built in? |
| 00:36.35 | txomon|home | didn't get that thing working, so he just dropped in that point |
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| 00:36.51 | txomon|home | JohnnyL, all are from motherboard ;) |
| 00:37.11 | txomon|home | just have a motherboard, ram, hd, graphiccard and box |
| 00:37.12 | JohnnyL | txomon|home: give me the make and version of it. |
| 00:37.51 | txomon|home | p67a-d3-b3 gigabyte |
| 00:38.00 | matip_ | ns.foo.com.inv |
| 00:38.10 | matip_ | 137 IN PTR foo <-- inverse |
| 00:38.15 | simonlnu | bluesm: the "http_proxy" environment variable. e.g. 'export http_proxy="http://yourproxy.rld/"' (no single quotes, keep the double quotes) |
| 00:38.31 | txomon|home | matip_, yeah |
| 00:38.38 | txomon|home | I am configuring mine... |
| 00:38.43 | txomon|home | now :) |
| 00:39.00 | bluesm | simonlnu: Will it turn browser to this proxy ? |
| 00:39.04 | txomon|home | the shame is that I have to use ubuntu because debian doesn't have cobbler yet |
| 00:39.22 | matip_ | you're configuring yours? the dns server? |
| 00:39.27 | txomon|home | yep |
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| 00:39.42 | simonlnu | bluesm: that you set in the browser prefs usually. but if it's already set, it should pick up (note not all browsers read that variable). |
| 00:39.44 | txomon|home | now that you are doing the same, we can share knowledge |
| 00:39.45 | txomon|home | :D |
| 00:39.53 | matip_ | I thought it was overcomplicated but after I read a book (a section of ~) it makes sense |
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| 00:40.16 | simonlnu | erm, typo, tld, not rld |
| 00:40.17 | txomon|home | nah, is simple, you just have to know it ;D |
| 00:40.28 | JohnnyL | txomon|home: whats 'lspci -nn | grep -i audio' say? |
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| 00:41.07 | JohnnyL | as root |
| 00:41.20 | simonlnu | don't need root for -nn |
| 00:41.31 | roboman2444 | did the newest xorg in the testing repo break the amd proprietary drivers again? |
| 00:42.01 | simonlnu | roboman2444: ask in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 00:42.03 | txomon|home | JohnnyL, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1378437/ |
| 00:42.36 | JohnnyL | well, you may want to keep the better of the two. |
| 00:42.48 | txomon|home | matip_, which man/book are you following? |
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| 00:42.55 | JohnnyL | and just disable the other one, probably through cmos. |
| 00:43.08 | jagginess_ | . |
| 00:43.23 | txomon|home | JohnnyL, if they work like this, will leave it like that. As you said, if it works, just leave it |
| 00:43.36 | JohnnyL | txomon| yes. |
| 00:43.47 | JohnnyL | txomon| does the back of your pc have more than one audio? |
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| 00:43.49 | txomon|home | and the nvidia one is to put digital audio via the dvi |
| 00:44.03 | txomon|home | the motherboard and the graphic card |
| 00:44.11 | JohnnyL | ah ok |
| 00:44.24 | matip_ | txomon|home, this to configure http://wiki.debian.org/Bind9 , Computer Networking: A Top-Down Approach (Kurose) to understand |
| 00:45.52 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:46.23 | Agiofws | agiofws@ixus:~/developer-Android/adt-bundle-linux/sdk/platform-tools$ ./adb |
| 00:46.23 | Agiofws | ./adb: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 00:46.26 | txomon|home | Agiofws, libncurses-dev |
| 00:46.42 | simonlnu | Agiofws: next time, use your local search. apt-cache. |
| 00:46.42 | bluesm | simonlnu: I got the: When running Chromium under a supported desktop environment, the system proxy settings will be used. However, either your system is not supported or there was a problem launching your system configuration. |
| 00:46.44 | txomon|home | (if I recall correctly) |
| 00:47.03 | simonlnu | bluesm: ok |
| 00:47.26 | bluesm | simonlnu: From GUI chromium |
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| 00:47.36 | simonlnu | ok |
| 00:47.55 | txomon|home | simonlnu, I think he needs apt-file for filenames |
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| 00:48.03 | simonlnu | bluesm: what sort of environment do you have there? |
| 00:48.24 | simonlnu | apt-cache search libncurses works fine here |
| 00:48.30 | bluesm | simonlnu: lxde... |
| 00:48.47 | txomon|home | simonlnu, yes, but libncurses.so.5 search no |
| 00:48.48 | simonlnu | for files names, yes he does. he's also a repeat offender ;) |
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| 00:48.57 | txomon|home | ahh ok :;D |
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| 00:50.12 | simonlnu | Agiofws: also, that thing you're trying to run might be looking in your cwd for it |
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| 00:51.59 | simonlnu | bluesm: ok, you probably want to set that in your shell config, so lxde picks it up. that'll mean you need to log out. unless lxde has some util to set environment variables |
| 00:52.56 | roothorick | Oh what the hell... apt-get install seems to trigger a kernel panic when downloading packages. No visible message onscreen... how do I troubleshoot this? |
| 00:54.08 | simonlnu | oi. nic driver issue? what's the oops say? is there one? |
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| 00:54.36 | bluesm | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:54.41 | bluesm | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:54.43 | roothorick | simonlnu: as I said, nothing visible |
| 00:54.55 | roothorick | simonlnu: the same machine runs Ubuntu 12.04 just fine, so what gives |
| 00:55.30 | simonlnu | log back in :) |
| 00:55.44 | simonlnu | i suspect driver |
| 00:56.04 | simonlnu | roothorick: is this *always*? |
| 00:56.16 | roothorick | simonlnu: it just happened twice in a row |
| 00:56.30 | simonlnu | did apt-get segfault? |
| 00:56.36 | roothorick | not visibly |
| 00:56.49 | roothorick | it's just downloading some package, and then the system hangs with the telltale blinking capslock |
| 00:56.56 | simonlnu | you can see that in syslog or kern.log sometimes |
| 00:57.02 | simonlnu | oh sh*t |
| 00:57.47 | roothorick | nope, nothing in syslog |
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| 00:58.01 | simonlnu | ok, i gtg. hope you get that fixed. darn |
| 00:58.03 | txomon|home | roothorick, if you are interested, I can teach you about kdump-tools install/configuration ;) |
| 00:58.19 | txomon|home | I just learnt to (after 2 days hitting hard to it) |
| 00:58.41 | roothorick | I'm not getting a dump that I can find, so I don't know what use that would be :/ |
| 00:58.59 | txomon|home | roothorick, that *gets* a kernel core dump |
| 00:59.09 | txomon|home | it loads another emergency kernel and makes a core dump |
| 00:59.15 | roothorick | whoa. |
| 00:59.36 | txomon|home | I use it to analize network kernel panics |
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| 01:00.03 | txomon|home | roothorick, thought I just hope you don't have to get till that extreme measure to fix it |
| 01:00.13 | roothorick | one thing I can think of |
| 01:00.22 | roothorick | this laptop has a Turion |
| 01:00.28 | roothorick | didn't the K8 chips have some defect? |
| 01:00.42 | txomon|home | google will tell you ... |
| 01:01.19 | txomon|home | i don't know much about hw |
| 01:01.22 | roothorick | well, each time it gets a few packages further :? |
| 01:01.33 | txomon|home | xD |
| 01:01.42 | txomon|home | you also can download them on hand |
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| 01:01.50 | txomon|home | with wget |
| 01:01.55 | txomon|home | I am sure that would be faster |
| 01:01.56 | roothorick | I wish I had another machine to plug this HDD into |
| 01:02.05 | roothorick | I'm willing to bet wget would trigger the panic too |
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| 01:02.29 | roothorick | hell with it, I'll boot it on my gaming rig. Which is this machine. Toodles! |
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| 01:03.34 | bluesm | The same behavior. |
| 01:03.40 | bluesm | When running Chromium under a supported desktop environment, the system proxy settings will be used. However, either your system is not supported or there was a problem launching your system configuration. |
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| 01:04.34 | jagginess | bluesm, chrome-urls:// |
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| 01:05.54 | jagginess | oops |
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| 01:09.51 | txomon|home | im going med |
| 01:09.53 | txomon|home | bed* |
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| 01:10.09 | txomon|home | bb! and thank you a lot 4 your help JohnnyL |
| 01:10.53 | jagginess | you go to med. and stay in bed.. and don't forget to hug ted. |
| 01:11.03 | jagginess | oh he fleds.. |
| 01:11.07 | jagginess | mwaha |
| 01:11.11 | Dext | http://tehnoklik.net.hr/2012/11/22/0278007.48.jpg |
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| 01:11.26 | Dext | I want one. |
| 01:13.55 | jagginess | I want t(.)(.) |
| 01:14.16 | jagginess | get it? |
| 01:14.20 | jagginess | mwaaha |
| 01:16.28 | JohnnyL | yw txomon|home |
| 01:16.37 | JohnnyL | happy thanksgiving. |
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| 02:11.22 | muhoo | does bluetooth-agent work to pair with a bluetooth device that requires a passkey? |
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| 02:13.21 | muhoo | or is there some weird /var/lib/bluetooth/xxxx method now? what's the current best practice? |
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| 02:15.48 | fr0ggie | After dist-upgrade'ing my squeeze box-- I'm having issues bringing up my second display:: nn@localhost:~$ xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1440x900 --output VGA-0 --mode 1280x1024 --right-of LVDS gives the error: xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1600x1600 (desired size 2720x1024) |
| 02:16.12 | Ghormoon | hi, any ideas, why I can't find sun-java6-jdk in repositories even when i have nonfree in sources.list? :( |
| 02:16.20 | Ghormoon | *non-free |
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| 02:20.16 | gusnan | Ghormoon, It's not available in versions later than Squeeze, see http://wiki.debian.org/Java |
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| 02:20.36 | Ghormoon | just found out :) i'm on wheezy |
| 02:20.55 | Ghormoon | added squeese repo, hopefully I won't fuck up everything :D |
| 02:21.01 | fr0ggie | Can they get rid of Flash too? :) |
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| 02:21.20 | fr0ggie | No more flash and no more java? Ohh what a lovely world the interweb would be |
| 02:21.39 | fr0ggie | Especially if i could get this stupid Xorg crap to work like it did yesterday |
| 02:21.50 | Ghormoon | yep :D at least it would be nice if it ran on openjdk :-/ but i need sun java :-/ |
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| 02:36.44 | jalalsfs | Hi |
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| 02:38.19 | LtL | jalalsfs: hi |
| 02:38.19 | jalalsfs | I want to use testing repositories, what should I write in sources.list? |
| 02:40.07 | LtL | jalalsfs: wheezy |
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| 02:41.02 | jalalsfs | LtL, I can't write test? |
| 02:41.23 | zykotick9 | jalalsfs: fyi if you add the wheezy repo to squeeze, you might as well upgrade... see "/msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy" |
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| 02:42.03 | zykotick9 | jalalsfs: or be sure you have pinning working correctly |
| 02:42.45 | jalalsfs | zykotick9, No, It's weakly version |
| 02:43.22 | jalalsfs | zykotick9, I installed it before 1 hour. |
| 02:43.56 | jalalsfs | I want the list for repository to testing version. |
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| 02:50.20 | LtL | jalalsfs: http://how-to.linuxcareer.com/debian-apt-get-wheezy-sourceslist (this looks correct to me.) |
| 02:51.28 | linux-fox | hi,all |
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| 03:05.34 | Phuxter | !list |
| 03:05.34 | dpkg | phuxter: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.6-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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| 03:13.47 | jalalsfs | I entered the correct password to wifi network but it said wrong in Debian. |
| 03:13.49 | jalalsfs | Why? |
| 03:14.57 | sussudio | !why |
| 03:14.58 | dpkg | Because! |
| 03:16.08 | jalalsfs | sussudio, I don't know, I tried the same password in my cell phone, it's correct but what's the matter with debian |
| 03:16.09 | jalalsfs | ? |
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| 03:36.26 | Infiltrator | jagginess: Check your caps lock key? Keyboard layout? |
| 03:36.32 | Infiltrator | jagginess: Sorry. |
| 03:36.45 | Infiltrator | Oh, jalalsfs is gone. |
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| 04:47.23 | P-Chan | Hi debian guys. I don't understand how to add debian multimedia |
| 04:47.38 | dondelelcaro | !tell P-Chan about dmm |
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| 04:49.10 | P-Chan | dondelelcaro: why he don't put only the source line? http://deb-multimedia.org/debian-m |
| 04:49.35 | P-Chan | what is this? for example before we put deb http://something |
| 04:49.50 | P-Chan | now we just press enter in terminal? is this |
| 04:50.02 | P-Chan | ]I am noob and i leaved linux mint now |
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| 04:51.00 | crocket | I modified /etc/group directly, but the change hasn't been reflected in the system. |
| 04:51.04 | crocket | I logged in again. |
| 04:51.14 | P-Chan | dondelelcaro: ok i read |
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| 04:51.33 | KsM | crocket: edit /etc/group and /etc/group- |
| 04:51.44 | crocket | KsM : Why do I need to edit both files? |
| 04:51.49 | KsM | ┐('～`；)┌ |
| 04:52.01 | P-Chan | debian guys i LOVE you because debian is most easy distro of the world |
| 04:52.05 | simonlnu | um, the - one is just the previous edit |
| 04:52.17 | P-Chan | I hope someday steam in pure debian |
| 04:52.29 | KsM | simonlnu: yes, but from my experience, /etc/group- is the one that affects the system |
| 04:52.49 | simonlnu | vigr |
| 04:52.50 | KsM | same with /etc/group-, I only notice changes if I edit both |
| 04:52.58 | crocket | simonlnu, What's wrong, then? |
| 04:53.07 | crocket | KsM : What's wrong with debian? |
| 04:53.41 | engla | why edit? just use adduser |
| 04:53.48 | simonlnu | i always use vigr is editing the unix stuff, i don't get issues |
| 04:53.52 | simonlnu | if* |
| 04:53.54 | crocket | I came from slackware. |
| 04:54.10 | engla | welcome |
| 04:54.12 | KsM | it's just a backup as far as I know |
| 04:54.27 | P-Chan | crocket: why you leaved slackware? |
| 04:54.38 | P-Chan | i came from linux mint |
| 04:55.17 | simonlnu | man group |
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| 04:56.15 | simonlnu | man vigr |
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| 04:56.43 | P-Chan | Well how I catch the gpg from debian multimedia? It's different now |
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| 04:57.02 | simonlnu | install their keyring package |
| 04:58.05 | P-Chan | simonlnu: yes guy but the website gives a strage command |
| 04:58.16 | simonlnu | crocket: do you have something like nscd running? |
| 04:58.18 | P-Chan | i am noob remenber |
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| 04:58.36 | crocket | simonlnu, I don't know. |
| 04:58.43 | simonlnu | install this >>> deb-multimedia-keyring |
| 04:58.47 | simonlnu | P-Chan: ^^^ |
| 04:59.00 | simonlnu | crocket: probably not then |
| 04:59.35 | P-Chan | simonlnu: thank, now I will reboot. i updated the kernel hehehe |
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| 05:04.49 | allan_wind | Hi guys, how do I install vim 7.3 on squeeze? |
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| 05:06.11 | linux-fox | allan_wind, aptitude install vim |
| 05:06.31 | allan_wind | squeeze has 7.2 |
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| 05:06.40 | zykotick9 | linux-fox: 7.3? looks like squeeze has 7.2.445 |
| 05:07.18 | allan_wind | yeah, I was hoping there was a better than way than installing from source. I tried the pin route with wheezy but it breaks too many things |
| 05:07.59 | zykotick9 | allan_wind: are you familiar with the ssb factoid? "/msg dpkg ssb" |
| 05:08.30 | linux-fox | oh, sorry |
| 05:08.38 | allan_wind | zykotick9: it's not in backport, first thing I checked |
| 05:09.01 | zykotick9 | allan_wind: ssb is more then backports repo, it's backporting yourself from sid |
| 05:09.32 | crocket | git-daemon fails to evaluate permissions when executed with chpst. |
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| 05:09.55 | crocket | If I replace chpst with sudo, git-daemon reads files that has permission for its group. |
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| 05:11.27 | crocket | chpst sucks |
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| 05:12.34 | allan_wind | zykitics9: hmm... I added the src line, but apt-get source -b says : Ignore unavailable version '2:7.2.445+hg~cb94c42c0e1a-1' of package 'vim'. This is the version in squeeze |
| 05:12.52 | simonlnu | crocket: you running it with the -u and/or -U ? |
| 05:13.12 | simonlnu | those take a group too (just in case you didn't know) |
| 05:13.39 | crocket | simonlnu, -u |
| 05:13.44 | simonlnu | typical chown "new style" with the colon |
| 05:13.51 | crocket | simonlnu, I mean additional groups. |
| 05:14.22 | crocket | simonlnu, a process started in chpst doesn't have permission for files belonging to its additional groups. |
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| 05:15.45 | simonlnu | i'd consider that a bug, personally |
| 05:16.32 | crocket | simonlnu, A serious bug |
| 05:16.36 | crocket | I'm so serious |
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| 05:17.06 | allan_wind | zykotick9: any ideas? |
| 05:17.20 | zykotick9 | allan_wind: so no. good luck. |
| 05:17.28 | zykotick9 | allan_wind: s/so/sorry/ |
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| 05:17.31 | simonlnu | crocket: mine's statically linked. is yours too? |
| 05:17.50 | allan_wind | zykotick9: thx though |
| 05:17.57 | crocket | simonlnu, I don't know |
| 05:18.17 | crocket | simonlnu, ldd says it's not a dynamic executable. |
| 05:18.29 | simonlnu | same here. so yeh |
| 05:18.55 | simonlnu | unusual to see such a thing in debian =). |
| 05:20.16 | crocket | I don't care |
| 05:20.21 | crocket | Just make this goddamn thing work. |
| 05:20.32 | simonlnu | waves his magic wand |
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| 05:22.54 | alretz | can anyone answer a few questions about 3.2.0 kernel? |
| 05:25.03 | k1ssak1 | alretz: you may have to ask to find out |
| 05:25.38 | alretz | ok i'm having problems loading a module at boot, /etc/modules doesn't load it but modprobe does |
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| 05:27.25 | alretz | the module is speakup_soft and modprobe speakup_soft start=1 works but I am putting only speakup_soft start=1 at the end of /etc/modules |
| 05:29.02 | allan_wind | alretz: I don't think you put module options in /etc/modules |
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| 05:29.25 | alretz | so just module? |
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| 05:29.47 | allan_wind | alretz: yeah, if the kernel doesn't auto detect. Options go in /etc/modprobe.d/ |
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| 05:32.56 | AlexLikeRock | buenas noches :) |
| 05:33.07 | AlexLikeRock | jue nov 22 22:32:35 MST 2012 |
| 05:33.46 | AlexLikeRock | (sorry wron chanel ) |
| 05:35.24 | alretz | allan_wind, should I make a new folder for speakup_soft in modprobe.d then? |
| 05:35.35 | allan_wind | alretz: file, not folder |
| 05:35.49 | alretz | there are only folder in there now |
| 05:36.08 | alretz | do I need to creat an alias then? |
| 05:36.45 | allan_wind | alretz:You need the option speakup_soft start=1 for a module, right? |
| 05:36.53 | shvchk | Hello. Is there a way to create a per-user /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/typo? |
| 05:36.56 | alretz | yes |
| 05:37.25 | alretz | so file named speakup_soft containing speakup_soft start=1 |
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| 05:37.37 | allan_wind | alretz: syntax is options <module> <options>, and I would put that in /etc/modprobe.d/<module>.conf |
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| 05:44.45 | alretz | allan_wind, that seems not to work |
| 05:45.32 | allan_wind | alretz: what's the problem? |
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| 05:46.21 | alretz | it's not loading |
| 05:46.31 | allan_wind | alretz: how are you testing? |
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| 05:46.45 | alretz | reboot |
| 05:47.12 | allan_wind | alretz: so you added the module name to /etc/modules? |
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| 05:47.34 | alretz | i tried changing the modules entry to just speakup_soft |
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| 05:48.00 | allan_wind | alretz: how did you load it with modprobe? |
| 05:48.23 | alretz | now it loads with just modprobe speakup_soft |
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| 05:49.20 | allan_wind | alretz: means options worked so you are sure you have it in /etc/modules as speakup_soft? |
| 05:50.27 | alretz | yes |
| 05:50.31 | alretz | something is wrong |
| 05:50.40 | alretz | /etc/modules is not working |
| 05:52.40 | allan_wind | alretz: Maybe this is of help: <http://wiki.debian.org/Modules> |
| 05:53.04 | alretz | ok, thanks it worked now |
| 05:53.11 | alretz | but still no speech |
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| 05:53.20 | alretz | very odd |
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| 06:05.13 | subb1 | Hi all. |
| 06:05.31 | sney | hi |
| 06:05.34 | subb1 | I installed varnish 3.0.3 from source on my debian 6, from source. |
| 06:05.52 | subb1 | As per varnish doc, 1/2 of the varnish 3.0.3 config file is /etc/default/varnish. I installed from source so I'm not able to find this file. Where can I locate it? Thanks |
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| 06:06.22 | subb1 | The other config file of varnish is - /usr/loca/etc/default which is there. |
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| 06:06.47 | sney | subb1: there is a debian 6 (squeeze) package of varnish 3.0.2 in squeeze-backports, would that one be good enough? it'd put all the config files in their proper places |
| 06:07.18 | P-Chan | guys i installed all debian mozilla team browsers. where can i find "debian chromium team"? I love debian developers |
| 06:07.39 | sney | P-Chan: there is no separate chromium site like there is for iceweasel |
| 06:08.02 | P-Chan | sney: do you know what is these site? |
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| 06:08.24 | liberte | hello |
| 06:08.26 | liberte | someone knows how I can create an infinite (bucle) script on bash? |
| 06:08.33 | P-Chan | liberte: hi dude |
| 06:08.39 | sney | P-Chan: what? do you mean mozilla.debian.net? I know that site, yes |
| 06:08.45 | liberte | wget http://url/file.extrm -rf file.ext |
| 06:08.48 | sney | there is no similar site for chromium. |
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| 06:09.01 | liberte | this is my script, i nee make this one infinite |
| 06:09.05 | liberte | *need |
| 06:09.06 | P-Chan | sney: i want website for chromium now |
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| 06:09.13 | sney | P-Chan: sorry, there is none. |
| 06:09.25 | sney | P-Chan: this is the closest. http://packages.debian.org/chromium |
| 06:09.41 | sney | liberte: while loop |
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| 06:12.12 | liberte | mh, thanks sney |
| 06:12.15 | P-Chan | i know use nokia 6111 modem with network manager. How i conect without this? debian don't use this by default |
| 06:12.21 | liberte | but, this is a command? |
| 06:12.35 | sney | liberte: a while loop is a part of bash. you can google how to make one |
| 06:13.28 | P-Chan | lol chromium package ask for dependencies. The proprietary chrome install without ask dependencies. why? |
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| 06:14.03 | dondelelcaro | P-Chan: because we package libraries separately in Debian. |
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| 06:14.52 | sney | P-Chan: to install chromium it's just 'apt-get install chromium' or 'apt-get install chromium-browser' if you're on squeeze |
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| 06:16.40 | P-Chan | dondelelcaro: ok. I don't want to testing. I will stay in stable. Do you guys choose the debian mascot sney i just installed chromium but this chromium is outdated. I found someday website like google chrome to install latest chromium. if you guys choose my mascot I will became happy :) |
| 06:18.42 | P-Chan | I don't like rolling release. i am don't a bug finder. I am a artist |
| 06:19.06 | P-Chan | thanks for support guys! Go debian go! |
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| 06:21.22 | subb1 | sney, okay ... I would like to know if adding this repo and installing is okay: https://www.varnish-cache.org/installation/debian |
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| 06:25.23 | sney | subb1: no, use backports.debian.org as mentioned at the top of that page |
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| 06:25.43 | sney | subb1: backports.debian.org is where you find the squeeze-backports repo I mentioned |
| 06:27.14 | subb1 | sney, got it thanks! :) |
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| 06:41.52 | fedoracat | y send-mail) |
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| 07:33.18 | engblom | I need to get schroot running as a normal user binding /home... For some reason it is not binding /home. What could be wrong? |
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| 07:37.49 | nvz | I'm having issues with mysql in a wheezy chroot http://paste.debian.net/211702/ I can't figure out what the problem is /var/log/mysql* is all empty /proc and /dev ARE bind mounted inside the chroot |
| 07:39.28 | dcherniv | nvz, Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) |
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| 07:40.13 | dcherniv | nvz, devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620) |
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| 07:42.22 | nvz | dcherniv: throws that warning a lot dont know what to do about it |
| 07:43.10 | dcherniv | nvz, can you mount devpts in chroot? |
| 07:44.26 | simonlnu | nvz: /sys too? and yeh you'll need /dev/pts too |
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| 07:44.49 | nvz | figured binding /dev covered /dev/pts |
| 07:44.58 | simonlnu | not usually |
| 07:47.05 | nvz | well with /sys and /dev/pts its still failing |
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| 07:48.51 | dcherniv | nvz, whats it say? |
| 07:49.01 | simonlnu | check syslog as to why it's not starting |
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| 07:50.23 | nvz | dcherniv: same as before without the /dev/pts error |
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| 07:50.46 | nvz | I dont even have a syslog |
| 07:51.16 | simonlnu | check the host's |
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| 07:52.07 | simonlnu | it's read from /dev/log so doesn't matter |
| 07:52.50 | nvz | connect to server localhost failed, 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' |
| 07:53.06 | simonlnu | (mysqld is rather verbose as to why it fails, but usually you have to look carefully) |
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| 07:54.57 | grish_ | buongiorno a tutti ho un problema con Squeeze appena installato. Non mi riconosce il dispositivo usb che utilizzo per connettermi wireless al router. Aiuto perfavore |
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| 07:57.45 | nvz | simonlnu: dcherniv syslog from the host side http://paste.debian.net/211703/ |
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| 07:59.24 | dcherniv | nvz, hm do you have network in your chroot? |
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| 08:00.28 | dcherniv | nvz, if its a local mysql install you can disable net connect and just use socket |
| 08:00.30 | nvz | dcherniv: I didnt set anything up other than creating /etc/hosts |
| 08:00.30 | Eagleman | I am trying to transfer user accounts from one debian machine to another, i followed this guide: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-move-migrate-user-accounts-old-to-new-server/ But after completing the steps, users are still not able to login. The only thing i didnt do is transfering the /home directory becuase its a symlink |
| 08:00.37 | Eagleman | What did i do wrong? |
| 08:00.41 | dcherniv | nvz, what does ifconfig say in chroot? |
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| 08:01.21 | nvz | dcherniv: same as in host |
| 08:01.45 | gnarface | Eagleman: are you for real? did you just come in here and say "i just followed this howto except for one step and it didn't work, but i can't figure out why?" |
| 08:01.53 | nvz | dcherniv: I'm just trying to run opensim which requires mono and mysql in a wheezy chroot. |
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| 08:02.19 | dcherniv | Eagleman, did you reboot? |
| 08:02.29 | Eagleman | getent shadow user is showing me the same users |
| 08:02.29 | nvz | when I did this a year or so ago all i did was mount /dev/ and /proc and that was it |
| 08:02.38 | gnarface | lol@dcherniv |
| 08:02.41 | dcherniv | nvz, ok get out of chroot and /etc/init.d/mysqld stop |
| 08:03.01 | nvz | I'll try but i dont evben have mysql installed on the host |
| 08:03.36 | dcherniv | nvz, also run netstat in chroot and see if theres anything listening on 3306 |
| 08:03.56 | nvz | nothing is listening on that port, and there is no mysql only mysql-common on host |
| 08:04.49 | nvz | seems like it wants the socket to be on the host for some reason |
| 08:04.52 | dcherniv | nvz, is mysqld still running somehow in chroot |
| 08:04.59 | nvz | maybe it needs /var/run binded as well |
| 08:05.02 | Eagleman | dcherniv i've just rebooted, are there ways to test the logins without login in? i dont have the passwords for the accounts i transfered |
| 08:05.28 | nvz | dcherniv: nope |
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| 08:06.39 | dcherniv | Eagleman, afraid not without resetting the password for one of the users. But once you reset it, its not really testing |
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| 08:06.47 | dcherniv | Eagleman, you gotta ask the user to login |
| 08:07.29 | Eagleman | This is also a bit weird, when o do this: getent shadow user |
| 08:07.39 | Eagleman | user:*:13838:1:99999:10:10:21914: |
| 08:07.50 | Eagleman | But when i do cat on /etc/shadow i dont see the user |
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| 08:09.38 | nvz | idk but its gotta be something to do with this new innodb crap |
| 08:09.51 | nvz | thats the only thing I see thats different from the last time i did this |
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| 08:20.47 | nvz | dcherniv: *shrug* started when I set bind address to 0.0.0.0 |
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| 08:34.29 | yorick_ | hello |
| 08:34.36 | yorick_ | how can i make a realtime kernel |
| 08:34.42 | Guest33367 | is that difficult? |
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| 08:37.03 | roothorick | This is a strange one. I have a Squeeze install on a USB HDD, it seems to work perfectly fine except on one specific machine, where it works pretty well, and then utterly dies. It looks like the USB bus spontaneously resets and it loses track of its own root... what the heck? |
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| 08:46.32 | Arafangion | roothorick: Crap hardware, perhaps. |
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| 08:46.48 | Arafangion | roothorick: Personally I'd suspect the voltage on the USB system. |
| 08:47.29 | roothorick | :/ that computer is kinda... irreplaceable... a number of proprietary bits that make it work with the rest of the machine... |
| 08:47.59 | Arafangion | roothorick: A lot of systems provide more power on the USB ports than is required, but some only provide the required power. For those systems, you'll need to find a way to get more power to the USB drive. |
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| 08:48.17 | Arafangion | roothorick: So consider finding a lower-power HDD or one that allows a wall adapter. |
| 08:48.50 | roothorick | well, I've got the HDD on an extension cable. It's only six feet, and its own cord is like, four inches, so I'm well within spec |
| 08:49.05 | roothorick | I'm wondering though, if maybe the impedance of the cable is posing a problem |
| 08:49.14 | roothorick | resistance, whatever |
| 08:49.22 | roothorick | otherwise, powered hub? |
| 08:49.24 | rainfyre | what do I do about this: W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/http.debian.net_debian_dists_wheezy_main_source_Sources Hash Sum mismatch |
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| 08:54.02 | Arafangion | roothorick: COnsider the powered hub. |
| 08:54.16 | roothorick | I'd have to find one... |
| 08:54.23 | roothorick | or buy one I suppose |
| 08:54.36 | Arafangion | roothorick: It's an irreplacable system, you have money to spare. :) |
| 08:55.05 | roothorick | I suppose. Though this USB HDD setup is, well, a bit of a deviation from its intended purpose :P |
| 08:55.47 | roothorick | it was never meant to boot from USB anything, it's just convenient that the mobo BIOS is pretty stock and allows it |
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| 08:56.16 | Arafangion | THere's that. |
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| 08:56.58 | Eagleman | My machine is getting usernames and passwords from ldap, when i shutdown slapd it is unable to recieve specific users using getent shadow and getent passwd. Now on my main server some users are able to login using their slapd credentials but on the others they are not, and i am a bit confused how this could happen |
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| 09:01.43 | jerardwack | Hi. Who know how to in console create torrent from folder |
| 09:02.40 | jerardwack | I ask this question before on ubuntu channel, but seem ubuntu not much humanity as in ads :) |
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| 09:05.16 | ButtaMyToast | hi |
| 09:06.08 | ButtaMyToast | what is the 'debian-live-6.0.5-i386-standard.img' ? |
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| 09:07.58 | WaterRatj | Whats the easiest way trought ssh to set a box's local ip to a one chosen by me? |
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| 09:09.02 | sussudio | !networking |
| 09:09.03 | dpkg | For basic networking, "man interfaces" and see http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration . For further information, see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/254 and http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05 . See also <interfaces>. |
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| 09:18.23 | Ayarsii | if I change something on /etc/network/interfaces, how can I reload my debian machine with these settings? /etc/init.d/networking restart would not work, that will put my eth0 in down state. |
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| 09:20.44 | nkuttler | Ayarsii: what did you change? |
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| 09:21.15 | Ayarsii | just a question, for example if I change the gateway, DNS-server, or DNS-search-suffix, or even the IP |
| 09:21.57 | Ayarsii | cannot perform something like /etc/init.d/networking restart, which will do that job of reload the network interface config and all related services to that? |
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| 09:22.04 | Uuni | well then, goodnight friends. its been long, and its been hard. now i should sleep. haha, i dont know if i can though, especially after seeing that little baby ice cream video. argh |
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| 09:22.29 | nkuttler | Ayarsii: well you can bring the interface down and up again |
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| 09:24.10 | nkuttler | Ayarsii: there's also ifconfig, /etc/resolv.conf etc. |
| 09:24.33 | Ayarsii | nkuttler: what if I am logged in through ssh ? should I do a "ifconfig eth0 down && ifconfig eth0 up" you mean ?? |
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| 09:25.27 | nkuttler | Ayarsii: well normally you don't want to do that with a remote box.. but sure, it could work |
| 09:25.37 | Ayarsii | nkuttler: Ok, but just think about I am using resolvconf package. I wouldnt manually edit /etc/resolv.conf, but want to try various settings how /etc/network/interfaces setup will modify my /etc/resolv.conf through resovlconf package. |
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| 09:26.21 | nkuttler | Ayarsii: if you want to test things you should probably use virtual machines or something |
| 09:26.31 | Ayarsii | I want to change various settings in /etc/network/interfaces and I would like to see how the system will behave when it restarts. |
| 09:26.55 | lugus | Debian Wheezy question: nxserver crashes every time i try to start a webbrowser remotely via nxclient. Didnt have that problem in deb6.0 :) DAE have this problem? |
| 09:26.57 | Ayarsii | nkuttler: I am using a VM for testing, thats not the problem. |
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| 09:28.21 | nsadmin | lugus, do you have a machine which is a remote and which you're trying to start a browser on? |
| 09:28.42 | lugus | nsadmin: yes exactly |
| 09:29.01 | lugus | nsadmin: i also noticed freenx was removed from the repositories |
| 09:29.14 | lugus | nsadmin: maybe some bug they're working on? |
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| 09:29.43 | nsadmin | let's start with some names... what are you calling the remote machine? |
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| 09:30.47 | lugus | nsadmin: the remote machine is just my desktop at home which i logon via nxclient (win) from work |
| 09:31.13 | dorian | hey, is there any way to trace the apt source of a given package? i.e. where it came from? i have a vps that has injected extra stuff into the apt list and trying to figure out what came from where. |
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| 09:32.07 | nsadmin | we can use made-up names, as long as each name refers to one machine |
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| 09:32.19 | nsadmin | you can even make them up now |
| 09:32.46 | lugus | how about: server |
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| 09:32.57 | nsadmin | and, the thing is when we start talking about 2 and more machines, the names help me keep things straight. |
| 09:33.24 | nsadmin | ok, so server is "just my desktop at home"? |
| 09:33.51 | lugus | yep, and the windows mav=chine at work is the client, the nxclient |
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| 09:34.52 | nsadmin | oh, so the one at work (which I guess is where you are now) is "client"? |
| 09:35.02 | lugus | yeah |
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| 09:35.34 | nsadmin | ok... now the thing is, I don't know much about windows and how it connects to anything |
| 09:35.41 | lugus | it logs on, just as expected, but when you try to run opera or firefox or chrome the session crashes |
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| 09:36.07 | lugus | just like putty (ssh) but with a desktop |
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| 09:41.51 | nsadmin | we're gonna zoom out in a sec, to see how else we might do this... but for now, is it that you use ssh with this nx thing to connect to "server", and then run x clients? |
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| 09:42.28 | dorian | perhaps a better question is how to force install a backport |
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| 09:42.57 | doomster | good morning! |
| 09:43.15 | nsadmin | forcing is an indication that some or all of what you're trying to install isn't going to work properly or at all |
| 09:43.51 | dorian | from what i can tell the extra apt source (dreamhost) is cockblocking postgresql-9.1 |
| 09:44.12 | nsadmin | there's 9.1 in squeeze |
| 09:44.20 | dorian | yeah and it refuses to install |
| 09:44.20 | nsadmin | no need to backport that |
| 09:44.29 | nsadmin | why would it do that? |
| 09:44.43 | dorian | if i knew i wouldn't be here! |
| 09:44.49 | doomster | I have a problem, I can't find a way to configure a system-wide timezone. Setting TZ in /etc/profile doesn't work for X logins.. |
| 09:45.12 | nsadmin | try tzconfig? |
| 09:45.20 | doomster | yes, doesn't work. |
| 09:45.33 | doomster | no, wait, I tried tzselect... |
| 09:46.01 | nsadmin | there are some uglee hax you can do too... |
| 09:46.54 | doomster | nsadmin, "tzconfig command is deprecated, please use: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata". That does the job though. |
| 09:46.57 | doomster | thanks! |
| 09:47.30 | nsadmin | weldome :) I was trying to remember that one |
| 09:47.44 | shingouz | i'm having some serious problems with an old eeepc 701 4G, more specifically with installing X on it. all the bits are in place but even after two days of screwing around i still get a "no screens found". at the end of the xorg.0.log there is an error of "no devices detected" and "no screens found". mouse missing? monitor? the resolution of the screen is 800x480 and it does not seem to be found with get-edid nor does the install kerne |
| 09:47.45 | shingouz | l seem to support such resolution on the fb. the 6.0.5 live gets X runnning with no fuzz but i am not sure where to dig the configuration out of that one |
| 09:47.56 | Eagleman | I allowed these groups in sshd-config: AllowGroups Software root tomcruise vmware HggPhilippines But somehow they are not saved |
| 09:48.03 | Eagleman | ANy idea on how to save it? |
| 09:48.14 | Eagleman | Its not used by sshd |
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| 09:48.32 | shingouz | Eagleman: you need to restart the sshd before it reads the config afaik |
| 09:48.45 | Eagleman | How? |
| 09:48.52 | Eagleman | There is no such things as sshd in /etc/init.d |
| 09:48.55 | doomster | nsadmin, I just see that this is also mentioned in the manpage for tzselect. But who RTFM? :P |
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| 09:49.29 | shingouz | eagle its been a long time since i had to do this but /etc/init.d/ssh (or sshd) restart should do it. as root, of course |
| 09:49.52 | nkuttler | ,v salt-master |
| 09:49.53 | judd | Package: salt-master on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 0.10.1-2~bpo60+2; squeeze-backports: 0.10.1-3~bpo60+1; sid: 0.10.5-1 |
| 09:49.54 | shingouz | Eagleman: heh... wrong tab completion |
| 09:50.15 | dorian | this: http://paste.debian.net/211729 |
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| 09:50.45 | nsadmin | well some people do prefer to read, and some don't... I usually suggest to practice reading the man pages because it's a damn good skill, and never too late to see how man pages talk |
| 09:50.53 | Eagleman | root@HGG-FS-NEW:~# sshd restart |
| 09:50.53 | Eagleman | sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path |
| 09:51.25 | Eagleman | i will try reboot |
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| 09:51.29 | nkuttler | Eagleman: ls /etc/init.d/*ssh* |
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| 09:52.52 | nkuttler | could have sworn salt was in wheezy |
| 09:52.53 | Eagleman | ./etc/init.d/ssh |
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| 09:53.00 | DelphiWorld | hello guys |
| 09:53.09 | DelphiWorld | any usefull shell audio cd riper |
| 09:53.13 | DelphiWorld | babilen: (^) |
| 09:53.39 | DelphiWorld | crip is asking me for track info like artist and jonre but i want to live those tagged from my cd |
| 09:53.53 | nsadmin | Eagleman, try (that thing) stop ; (that thing) start |
| 09:54.02 | Eagleman | i tried |
| 09:54.03 | doomster | DelphiWorld, tried "abcde"? |
| 09:54.25 | DelphiWorld | doomster: no buddy, i didnt heare about it. it's shell ? |
| 09:54.33 | nsadmin | and? |
| 09:54.41 | doomster | DelphiWorld, yes, and packaged for Debian. |
| 09:55.03 | Eagleman | nsadmin the group Software still isnt able to login |
| 09:55.17 | DelphiWorld | doomster: ok, i may bugs you for any help, ok ? |
| 09:55.20 | doomster | DelphiWorld, to be precise, it's not "shell" but it only uses a text-based user interface. |
| 09:55.22 | nsadmin | how are they trying? |
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| 09:55.29 | Eagleman | With their username |
| 09:55.34 | Eagleman | They are in the group software |
| 09:55.38 | doomster | DelphiWorld, sure, me or the channel. |
| 09:55.44 | DelphiWorld | dobalina: i love crip but i'm not sure if they will get my cd info cause it's allready asking about it |
| 09:55.47 | nsadmin | exact text of an example login? |
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| 09:56.08 | Eagleman | What do you mean? |
| 09:56.21 | nsadmin | what do they type to log in exactly? |
| 09:56.25 | Eagleman | root@HGG-FS-NEW:~# groups ronaldg |
| 09:56.25 | Eagleman | ronaldg : users admin Software HggPE Kantoor IT itadmins vpnusers ICTwiki |
| 09:56.35 | Eagleman | They use Puty to connect and use their username |
| 09:56.50 | Eagleman | and password |
| 09:57.04 | nsadmin | ok, do you have root access to the thing they're logging in to? |
| 09:57.08 | Eagleman | yes |
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| 09:57.42 | nsadmin | you could watch the ssh log (somewhere in /var/log, maybe messages, maybe daemon.log) |
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| 09:57.58 | Eagleman | This is how the login is done ( not 100% sure ) SSH>nssswitch>ldap>check sshd-config>group=software=correct password=logged in |
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| 09:58.29 | dorian | oh dear |
| 09:58.44 | Eagleman | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:58.50 | dorian | luldap |
| 09:58.54 | Eagleman | i was pretty sure i made it |
| 09:59.16 | dorian | i have installed that a few times over the last year |
| 10:00.02 | dorian | but i used sasl/gssapi/whatever i can't even remember because it is such a nightmare |
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| 10:00.47 | dorian | either way no ldap.secret |
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| 10:01.03 | DelphiWorld | thank doomster |
| 10:01.06 | dorian | since it just seems Wrong(tm) to shove cleartext passwords into text files |
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| 10:01.17 | DelphiWorld | doomster: any software that can show me the track info of my audio cd's ? |
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| 10:01.37 | nsadmin | I don';t have experience with ldap... |
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| 10:01.48 | spiekey | Hello! |
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| 10:01.55 | nsadmin | so I'm probably out for that |
| 10:02.05 | nkuttler | DelphiWorld: there are various tools that can get the track data from cddb |
| 10:02.07 | DelphiWorld | hey nsadmin :D |
| 10:02.12 | nsadmin | hi |
| 10:02.40 | nsadmin | I'm trying to get my wine build to work... seems like it doesn't connect to the kbd/mouse |
| 10:02.43 | DelphiWorld | nkuttler: no no, my cd' |
| 10:02.52 | dorian | anyway if the error is no such file or directory it's actually serious about it: it can't find the file. |
| 10:02.58 | DelphiWorld | nkuttler: no no, my cd's allready have track info and i want to read them |
| 10:03.05 | doomster | DelphiWorld, check out the cdtool package, but that only gives you what is on the CD, not the artist/album data from CDDB |
| 10:03.23 | nkuttler | DelphiWorld: ok, wasn't aware that audio cds can have track data |
| 10:03.29 | DelphiWorld | doomster: but what i see is that my cd allready have the artists in cd |
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| 10:03.49 | DelphiWorld | doomster, nkuttler itunes give it to me |
| 10:03.57 | doomster | DelphiWorld, I don't understand what you mean. |
| 10:04.03 | nkuttler | DelphiWorld: itunes gets it online |
| 10:04.11 | nkuttler | DelphiWorld: just like with cddb |
| 10:04.12 | spiekey | where can i get libvxssl.so ? Where is this file included? |
| 10:04.21 | nkuttler | !tell spiekey about search |
| 10:04.34 | DelphiWorld | hmmmmmmmmmm :( |
| 10:04.52 | Eagleman | Still not working with /etc/pam_ldap.secret |
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| 10:05.56 | doomster | DelphiWorld: The idea is that the number and length of the tracks is a fingerprint for the CD. This is used to look up album info in an online database. That's how CDDB or iTunes work. |
| 10:06.03 | nsadmin | what happens when you make unix users (instead of ldap) |
| 10:06.18 | DelphiWorld | doomster: i see. |
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| 10:07.11 | Eagleman | nsadmin it works the same way like this on the old system, the only difference is that i am unable to log in on the new one |
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| 10:07.49 | nsadmin | "the new one" <-- a machine? |
| 10:08.15 | Eagleman | Yes, i got the task to make a new server, becuase the old one is still on debian 4 |
| 10:08.24 | nsadmin | could it be the new machine isn't properly connecting to the new ldap server? |
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| 10:08.34 | Eagleman | ldap search shows 315 entry's |
| 10:08.44 | Eagleman | That exactly the ammount of entry's in ldap |
| 10:08.46 | nsadmin | from the new machine? |
| 10:08.49 | Eagleman | yes |
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| 10:08.55 | nsadmin | so it is connecting |
| 10:09.00 | Eagleman | Yes |
| 10:09.04 | Eagleman | its syncing to |
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| 10:09.39 | Eagleman | passwd: files ldap |
| 10:09.39 | Eagleman | group: files ldap |
| 10:09.39 | Eagleman | shadow: files ldap |
| 10:09.54 | Eagleman | is also the same in /etc/nsswich.conf |
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| 10:10.08 | Eagleman | and at the other machines there are no local accounts |
| 10:10.10 | nsadmin | since I'm not that familiar, what I usually suggest is to make a comparison between the old and new machines |
| 10:10.20 | spiekey | nkuttler, i did use packages.debian.org thats my i am here :) |
| 10:10.23 | nsadmin | that's probably what you're already doing |
| 10:10.28 | Eagleman | Thats the problem, i cant find the difference |
| 10:10.48 | nsadmin | does the ldap server have a log? |
| 10:10.48 | spiekey | i dont think libvxssl.so comes with debian |
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| 10:11.14 | nsadmin | , file libvxssl.so |
| 10:11.25 | judd | No packages in squeeze/i386 were found with that file. |
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| 10:11.47 | nsadmin | that might or might not be definitive |
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| 10:12.42 | spiekey | nsadmin, what do you mean? |
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| 10:13.57 | Eagleman | I added myself in the software group now |
| 10:14.02 | nsadmin | it only shows what in i386 arch of squeeze |
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| 10:14.32 | nsadmin | Eagleman, are you also in the ldap server? |
| 10:14.35 | omid8bimo | hey guys, what's gonna happen if i forgot to put a user name for crontab's jobs? |
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| 10:14.49 | omid8bimo | will they run on a default kinda user or will fail? |
| 10:14.53 | Eagleman | Yes i am |
| 10:15.07 | nsadmin | cool... so you can give it a try |
| 10:15.40 | lusers | Hi. Where can I go to see the availability of updating backported packages? |
| 10:16.18 | nsadmin | well there's the crontab that's in /etc/crontab, which requires a username |
| 10:16.48 | nsadmin | then, there are user crontabs, which requires you leave the user out |
| 10:17.35 | Eagleman | What should i give a try? |
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| 10:18.14 | nsadmin | to log in to your acct from the same setup that's presently failing |
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| 10:18.35 | nsadmin | watch the logs (use tail -f somelogfile) |
| 10:18.53 | nsadmin | then try logging in and see what happens |
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| 10:19.29 | nsadmin | you're not thinking of taking the old server down before getting this working? |
| 10:19.49 | nsadmin | can it survive while you figure this thing out? |
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| 10:20.27 | omid8bimo | anyone? |
| 10:20.53 | omid8bimo | what's gonna happen if i forgot to put a user name for crontab's jobs? will the run or exit with error? |
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| 10:21.51 | optraz | wheezy is 6.0 or 7.0 or 8.0 ? |
| 10:22.07 | Eagleman | nsadmin ofcourse not, then 100 people cant work untill it is fixed |
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| 10:24.53 | Eagleman | ok |
| 10:25.01 | Eagleman | i am able to log in on the old server now |
| 10:25.11 | Eagleman | becuase i am in the group software |
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| 10:27.45 | Eagleman | nsadmin i havent been able to find anything usefull in any of the logs |
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| 10:29.42 | Eagleman | aha found something now |
| 10:29.47 | nsadmin | does the ldap server report who's in what group? |
| 10:30.02 | jelly | optraz: it's going to be 7.0 once it's released |
| 10:30.13 | Eagleman | yes |
| 10:30.16 | Eagleman | i am in the group |
| 10:30.20 | nsadmin | it's apparant the group exists... can you query ldap for the group? |
| 10:30.22 | Eagleman | on the new server and olf server |
| 10:30.28 | nsadmin | ok |
| 10:30.51 | Eagleman | Nov 23 05:10:19 HGG-FS-NEW sshd[1976]: pam_unix(sshd:auth): authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=172.16.30.1 user=minime |
| 10:30.52 | Eagleman | Nov 23 05:10:19 HGG-FS-NEW sshd[1976]: pam_ldap: error trying to bind (Protocol error) |
| 10:30.52 | Eagleman | Nov 23 05:10:21 HGG-FS-NEW sshd[1976]: Failed password for minime from 172.16.30.1 port 53717 ssh2 |
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| 10:31.19 | nsadmin | failed passwd... |
| 10:31.42 | Eagleman | well i am pretty sure it wasnt a wrong password |
| 10:31.51 | nsadmin | shot in the dark: see if blank basswd work |
| 10:32.30 | Eagleman | no |
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| 10:33.32 | Eagleman | sshd_config is exactly the same as the old server to |
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| 10:35.09 | nsadmin | I think the problem might be "pam_ldap: error trying to bind (Protocol error)" |
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| 10:36.24 | nsadmin | the thing that wants the user to aughenticate to it (the new server) must connect to the ldap server (bind to it) |
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| 10:36.40 | linux-fox | ? |
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| 10:36.52 | nsadmin | . |
| 10:37.16 | shingouz | can i read the xorg settings *currently in use* on debian off some weird and wonderful place, /proc maybe? |
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| 10:40.26 | safridzal | http://edos.debian.net/weather/ for unstable not showing image (testing and stable is), is it my browser fault or what? |
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| 10:44.27 | boudiccas | safridzal: try it in a different browser then |
| 10:44.52 | safridzal | boudiccas: not working on both firefox and chome |
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| 10:45.11 | linux-fox | debian squashing parties |
| 10:45.14 | boudiccas | safridzal: its working okay here in chromium on wheezy |
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| 10:45.50 | nsadmin | give the url to the w3c validator... if it's not valid, it's not the browser's fault |
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| 10:47.18 | Trewas | safridzal: it's highly unlikely that something as simple as that would be browser dependent, the source does not have any images for unstable so it works as intended |
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| 10:48.55 | fling | which mirror do I need for Squeeze 6.0.6? |
| 10:49.12 | nsadmin | any one on the list |
| 10:49.30 | fling | I can not install it says mirror does not support the specified release |
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| 10:49.49 | nsadmin | is that mirror on the list? |
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| 10:50.03 | safridzal | Trewas: boudiccas: the link is working(http://edos.debian.net/weather/weather.php?distro=unstable&arch=amd64) , and it says that "Can't find weather XML file on disk. Sorry. " |
| 10:50.17 | fling | nsadmin: I'm installing from this cd http://mirror.yandex.ru/debian-cd/6.0.6/amd64/iso-cd/debian-6.0.6-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 10:50.52 | nsadmin | and you have 64b machine? |
| 10:51.03 | fling | nsadmin: yes |
| 10:51.38 | nsadmin | cool... could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 10:51.50 | fling | how may I do so? |
| 10:51.59 | fling | it is not installed yet |
| 10:52.11 | nsadmin | oh, so then you can't... |
| 10:52.35 | nsadmin | are you using the same machine to irc here that you want the debian on? |
| 10:52.46 | fling | nsadmin: 10.0.6.7 dev vms FAILED |
| 10:52.56 | fling | nsadmin: something is wrong with network config |
| 10:53.08 | fling | but other machines are reachable |
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| 10:53.13 | nsadmin | oh, ok... so it's not dhcp? |
| 10:53.27 | fling | it is dhcp and I had no dhcp error |
| 10:54.13 | nsadmin | are you running the installer now? |
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| 10:54.38 | Eagleman | got it working :) |
| 10:54.54 | Eagleman | I didnt changed this file on the new machine vi /etc/pam_ldap.conf |
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| 10:55.06 | nsadmin | Eagleman, how? |
| 10:55.23 | fling | nsadmin: yes :] |
| 10:55.51 | nsadmin | Eagleman, congratulations |
| 10:56.10 | nsadmin | I should probably practice on ldap |
| 10:56.30 | Eagleman | I should |
| 10:56.38 | Eagleman | But its "advanced" stuff |
| 10:58.12 | nsadmin | yes it is, well not so much advanced as under-the-hood type stuff |
| 10:58.16 | Eagleman | I had a course in windows ldap |
| 10:58.28 | fling | nsadmin: what if I will download a complete cd/dvd? |
| 10:58.39 | fling | nsadmin: which one is better for an offline install? |
| 10:58.54 | fling | nsadmin: I will use the machine for a skype farm |
| 10:59.04 | nsadmin | fling, if you have a netinstall it has the debian minimlal |
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| 10:59.43 | nsadmin | but you can also jsut try another mirror |
| 11:00.22 | nsadmin | howbout ftp.us.debian,irg |
| 11:00.26 | nsadmin | err org |
| 11:00.46 | nsadmin | dot not comma |
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| 11:02.54 | shingouz | *that* was painful. boot into the live version that was able to get X running, get the xorg.0.log, grep the modelines off the it and add them to the correct place in xorg.conf.d. some hacking involved... |
| 11:03.12 | shingouz | s/off the it/off it/ |
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| 11:08.33 | BadCodSmell | in debian is there a command to simply list what will start up automatically from rc.d? |
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| 11:11.57 | BadCodSmell | And not just find /etc/rc?.d |
| 11:12.01 | nsadmin | ls /etc/rc2.d |
| 11:12.11 | BadCodSmell | in respect to requires, etc |
| 11:12.13 | simonlnu | ls -l /etc/rc?.d/S* ;p |
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| 11:12.51 | nsadmin | if you want5 a custom solutionI can do it for a price |
| 11:12.53 | BadCodSmell | The S is the order in which it will start? |
| 11:13.10 | nsadmin | no the number is |
| 11:13.21 | BadCodSmell | that's what I mean |
| 11:13.23 | simonlnu | S is Start. simple. the number is the order. |
| 11:13.33 | nsadmin | but the order is the order ls gives you |
| 11:13.59 | nsadmin | (because of what simon says) |
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| 11:14.42 | simonlnu | though ordinarily you just need S and 2 |
| 11:14.53 | simonlnu | ls -l /etc/rc{S,2}.d/S* |
| 11:16.02 | simonlnu | insserv has already figured out the requires by symlinking all that stuff a certain way. |
| 11:16.40 | BadCodSmell | Despite bob having Require-Start: $Alice is has the same start number as Alice. |
| 11:17.00 | BadCodSmell | actually that might be my bad if i added it before adding alice |
| 11:17.02 | BadCodSmell | let me check |
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| 11:18.02 | BadCodSmell | nope everything is still all on S01 |
| 11:18.04 | matip | hi |
| 11:18.21 | simonlnu | BadCodSmell: then it'll sort alpha |
| 11:18.48 | matip | somehow I have an ipv6 in my computer, but I didn't configure it at all. I'm trying to figure out why. any idea? |
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| 11:19.07 | matip | I've checked some interface config files and there's nothing about that ipv6 |
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| 11:19.14 | BadCodSmell | Why doesn't Required-Start: work? |
| 11:19.30 | simonlnu | matip: at least one is always auto-generated. that's the nature. it doesn't mean it's accessible from the internet, however. |
| 11:19.31 | BadCodSmell | Do I need something else? |
| 11:19.53 | matip | simonlnu, yep. but it's not always listed in the interfaces |
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| 11:19.59 | matip | in fact in my other computer I don't have one |
| 11:20.11 | matip | that's why I'm trying to find out where it is configured |
| 11:20.27 | BadCodSmell | oh |
| 11:20.29 | euro | Hi, if one use Debian as desktop OS, do one need to install a firewall and antivirus? |
| 11:20.39 | BadCodSmell | should I skip the $ if it is a service? |
| 11:20.53 | Pizza90 | hi all, can someone tell me if wheezy beta 3 is stable enough to be used daily? (more stable than ubuntu or the same level) |
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| 11:21.22 | nsadmin | what do you mean by "doesn't work" |
| 11:21.26 | matip | any idea? |
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| 11:21.57 | euro | Pizza90: I guess that depends on what you are using it for, I have Sid on my desktop and it is stable enough for me :) |
| 11:22.04 | simonlnu | euro: not really. only if you have to interact with windows machines, as to not send them bad attachments. also a good idea to check for rootkits if it's going to be online directly. |
| 11:22.10 | simonlnu | matip: ipv6 is built into debian kernels |
| 11:22.29 | matip | it seems it's disabled in debian stable (?) |
| 11:22.32 | BadCodSmell | No, doesn't work either |
| 11:22.53 | Pizza90 | euro: thanks for your answer, well i would use it for chatting,browsing,getting some mail,writing documents, nothing more :) |
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| 11:23.10 | euro | simonlu: you mean if one have a public IP number on the running machine? |
| 11:23.12 | simonlnu | BadCodSmell: service names are usually generic |
| 11:23.48 | simonlnu | euro: more like if it's running something like ssh or other services. |
| 11:23.52 | euro | Pizza90: then yeah, IMHO it is stable enough |
| 11:23.56 | BadCodSmell | simonlnu: I just want things to start in the right order |
| 11:24.01 | BadCodSmell | after other things have started |
| 11:24.05 | BadCodSmell | how can I do this? |
| 11:24.08 | matip | http://paste.kde.org/613304/ |
| 11:24.18 | BadCodSmell | like apache after mysql |
| 11:24.20 | matip | this is what I get from ifconfig ^ simonlnu |
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| 11:24.26 | simonlnu | you probably need to read up on insserv and LSB |
| 11:25.17 | simonlnu | matip: ip -6 a sh |
| 11:25.59 | matip | 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 16436 \n inet6 ::1/128 scope host \n valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever |
| 11:26.13 | BadCodSmell | simonlnu: What's wrong with Start-Requires? |
| 11:26.19 | BadCodSmell | Why can't it just use that to chain? |
| 11:26.27 | euro | simonlnu: in this case SHH and other services are running but no additional ports are open directly (to outsiders). |
| 11:27.09 | matip | ah, it should be my /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:27.13 | matip | in one case it uses dhcp |
| 11:27.22 | euro | simonlnu: sorry, SSH :) |
| 11:27.24 | matip | in ther other, it's manually configured to have that IP |
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| 11:28.58 | simonlnu | euro: ok. ssh is a common attack vector. usually wise to set it up for ssh-key only access |
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| 11:29.05 | Pizza90 | euro: thanks for the answer ;) |
| 11:29.58 | euro | euro: is ssh-key only access not default? |
| 11:30.57 | simonlnu | no. that's for you to set up :). |
| 11:30.57 | euro | simonlnu: is ssh-key only access not default? |
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| 11:31.17 | euro | simonlnu: oh, I see. that could be fun :) |
| 11:31.36 | simonlnu | BadCodSmell: because 'apache' and 'mysql' are just strings to it. |
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| 11:31.45 | nsadmin | plus fail2ban is a good thing at least for protecting ssh from password attacking |
| 11:32.08 | simonlnu | yeh. layering is good ;) |
| 11:32.26 | euro | simonlnu: rootkits, shold one use chkrootkit and rkhunter? |
| 11:32.56 | simonlnu | i do |
| 11:33.13 | nsadmin | fail2ban works by keeping track of IPs and counting failed authentications... if it happens, it "bans" for like 10 mins |
| 11:34.00 | euro | and if one find some rootkit on the machine? what to do? |
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| 11:34.57 | euro | I understand that one should remove it somehow, I guess my question is HOW :) |
| 11:35.51 | simonlnu | freeze the bugger, disconnect, audit, restore everything from backups and/or reinstall. make sure your backups aren't infected too. |
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| 11:37.32 | matip | aha! I don't have the ip6 module: modprobe -v ipv6 --> FATAL: Module ipv6 not found. |
| 11:37.57 | Dagger2 | matip: because it's built-in in squeeze |
| 11:38.32 | matip | so how you explain ifconfig doesn't show the default ipv6 for any interface? |
| 11:38.33 | Dagger2 | you'll automatically have ::1 and link-local addresses configured. you can leave them alone just fine |
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| 11:39.31 | matip | http://paste.kde.org/613304/ |
| 11:39.36 | matip | ifconfig ^ |
| 11:39.36 | Dagger2 | what does your `ifconfig` look like? |
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| 11:40.05 | matip | venet0:0 is the interface that should have the ipv6 |
| 11:40.15 | Dagger2 | that looks like vxworks |
| 11:40.47 | Dagger2 | in which case the direct answer is that your processes don't have permission to view any of the v6 addresses on venet0 |
| 11:41.49 | matip | hmn, no idea |
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| 11:42.44 | matip | how about configuring it by hand in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 11:43.02 | Dagger2 | wasn't your original question that you had a v6 address and couldn't work out where it came from? it seems to have morphed into not having one |
| 11:43.35 | matip | haha |
| 11:43.50 | matip | no... I said I have one v6 address in one computer ""by default"" |
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| 11:44.02 | matip | but in another one I don't have one, and I wanted to configure it |
| 11:44.15 | matip | (it's not even in the same net) |
| 11:44.26 | Dagger2 | does the address on that computer start with fe80::? |
| 11:44.50 | matip | in mine, yes |
| 11:45.13 | matip | inet6 addr: fe80::8ea9:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx/64 Scope:Link |
| 11:45.18 | Dagger2 | then it's link-local, and thus only works on the local network. it's not usable for talking to the internet |
| 11:45.27 | matip | ah, ok |
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| 11:45.37 | matip | so... what's the idea? /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 11:45.53 | invariant | How do I remove a long list of package names of which some might not exist without it returning an error and without starting a large number of apt-get remove processes? |
| 11:45.55 | Dagger2 | you get link-local addresses automatically |
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| 11:46.32 | Dagger2 | there *is* a link-local address configured on venet0, but you can't see it because of how networking works in vxworks |
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| 11:46.56 | invariant | Example apt-get remove a{1..100} gnome-shell should remove gnome-shell, but don't complain about missing packages. |
| 11:47.47 | matip | 4to6 gave me one like 2002:xxxx:xxxx::1 |
| 11:47.56 | matip | actually, without the "1" at the end |
| 11:48.32 | Dagger2 | that's 6to4. you can normally configure it in /etc/network/interfaces, but it may not work inside vxworks |
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| 11:48.47 | matip | u.u |
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| 11:49.27 | matip | (I meant ipv6calc, not 4to6) |
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| 11:50.50 | jalalsfs | How to install chromium on debian testing? |
| 11:51.20 | Dagger2 | if you want to configure a 6to4 tunnel you'd need something like this: https://p.6core.net/p/9dhd10sqzuwk7zmh (replacing 192.0.2.3 and :c000:0203: appropriately for your v4 address) |
| 11:51.21 | nsadmin | find its package name |
| 11:51.29 | nsadmin | aptitude install thatpackagename |
| 11:53.00 | jalalsfs | nsadmin, there's no package. |
| 11:53.25 | colo-work | can epdfview fill out PDF forms? |
| 11:53.36 | colo-work | (mupdf cannot, and I need a lightweight app that can) |
| 11:53.54 | nsadmin | there are several pointers for searching if you /msg dpkg search... for now, try apt-cache search chrome |
| 11:54.23 | fling | nsadmin: thanks |
| 11:54.32 | fling | nsadmin: looks like the minimal is what I need |
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| 11:54.50 | fling | nsadmin: never used debian before :p |
| 11:55.09 | nsadmin | once you have the minimal, you can install anything you want on it |
| 11:55.26 | nsadmin | every debian install starts with that much |
| 11:55.26 | fling | I want to install a skype farm! :p |
| 11:55.41 | nsadmin | is there skype firtilizer? |
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| 11:56.49 | fling | nsadmin: http://www.personal.psu.edu/wcs131/blogs/psuvoip/2011/12/skype_for_asterisk_the_hard_way.html and http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Skypiax |
| 11:57.27 | nsadmin | is that how to make the farm? |
| 11:58.32 | invariant | Where is the aptitude reference manual? |
| 11:58.45 | fling | nsadmin: yes :p |
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| 11:59.37 | boudiccas | how can i find out what verion of lxde i'm running please? |
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| 12:00.33 | nsadmin | invariant, man aptitude (in general, man pages are reference documentation and will exist for each executable) |
| 12:00.50 | invariant | nsadmin, the man page referred me to it... |
| 12:01.01 | boudiccas | jalalsfs: apt-get install chromium |
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| 12:02.10 | boudiccas | ,v lxde |
| 12:02.11 | judd | Package: lxde on i386 -- lenny: 0.3.2.1+svn20080509-5; lenny-backports: 0.5.0-2~bpo50+1; squeeze: 0.5.0-4; wheezy: 2; sid: 4 |
| 12:03.15 | invariant | nsadmin, (in other words, that's not helpful) |
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| 12:05.21 | nsadmin | I'd say that's a filable debian bug |
| 12:05.23 | quitte | Hi. what happened to pkgconfig? |
| 12:05.25 | invariant | Is aptitude still deprecated? |
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| 12:06.00 | invariant | I just want something which can run regular expressions on the package database to check whether a package is available for installation. |
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| 12:06.21 | nsadmin | if the man page does not tell you where and how to get the reference, that's arguabkt a bug, since, how can you know otherwiae? |
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| 12:07.42 | nsadmin | I never heard anything about aptitude being deprecated... link? |
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| 12:08.38 | nsadmin | maybe some of these search functions can help: |
| 12:08.45 | nsadmin | !search |
| 12:08.45 | dpkg | Please search for things rather than just asking, e.g. 'apt-cache search regex', or with <aptitude search>. The following ways can locate packages that own a file (installed, or candidate for install): 'dpkg -S /bin/foo', <apt-file>, <pdo> (online) and <help find> (bot). <search dpkg> for factoids. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt and ask me about <bot help>. See also <axi-search> <debtags> <dlocate>. |
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| 12:11.00 | Infiltrator | aptitude is deprecated? When did this happen? |
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| 12:11.53 | simonlnu | since never |
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| 12:12.39 | Infiltrator | Okay, good. |
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| 12:12.47 | Infiltrator | It's pretty much all I use. |
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| 12:13.24 | nsadmin | I didn't think so... maybe he's thinking that it wasn't recommended for some specific situations where it wasn't found to work well (or it worked too good) |
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| 12:17.18 | Seryth | Hello all. I'm running Debian Wheezy, new install, but I don't have any audio...I've got no idea where to start with troubleshooting this. I've checked my sound volumes are up both on the OS and my speakers...other than that I'm stumped. Any help greatly appreciated! |
| 12:17.42 | phao | How do I find out which packages come in which instalation dvd? |
| 12:18.04 | dcherniv | Seryth, hehe, plug headphones in |
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| 12:18.18 | Seryth | dcherniv, Heh, I've tried that :P |
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| 12:19.27 | simonlnu | nsadmin: yes, that |
| 12:19.27 | nsadmin | !cd contents |
| 12:19.28 | dpkg | To find out which CD or DVD image contains a particular package or source file, use the search engine at http://cdimage-search.debian.org/ . To see what a specific image contains, examine the package lists within the list-{cd,dvd} subdirectories for the relevant architecture at http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/ (e.g. http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/list-cd/). |
| 12:19.51 | dcherniv | Seryth, pastebin the output of lspci, a screenshot of alsamixer |
| 12:20.03 | Seryth | Coming up |
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| 12:20.20 | Seryth | dcherniv, Oh, I'm mang0 by the way :) |
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| 12:21.00 | Seryth | http://paste.debian.net/211752/ dcherniv, lspci |
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| 12:22.39 | simonlnu | oh no :P |
| 12:22.47 | Seryth | Hm, I can't load alsamixer as root. As my user however..... http://ompldr.org/vZ2Y1dQ dcherniv |
| 12:22.48 | Guest90852 | hello |
| 12:22.48 | dcherniv | Seryth, cool alsamixer? |
| 12:22.57 | Guest90852 | can you hear me? |
| 12:23.13 | simonlnu | Guest90852: no, not at all. we can see type though. |
| 12:23.15 | Seryth | dcherniv, just there ----------^ |
| 12:23.18 | simonlnu | see you* |
| 12:23.26 | Guest90852 | fine |
| 12:23.30 | dcherniv | Seryth, ah pulse. can you press F6 in alsamixer and choose a real card if its there |
| 12:23.32 | dcherniv | Seryth, also pastebin lsmod |
| 12:23.43 | simonlnu | kill pa first.. |
| 12:23.49 | Seryth | Right |
| 12:23.55 | simonlnu | forgets to ask that sometimes |
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| 12:25.07 | nsadmin | Guest90852, you can ask stuff... the more sicco the better |
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| 12:26.02 | Seryth | http://paste.debian.net/211754/ dcherniv that's lsmod. When I hit F6, there were three listed; default, and two others...is there an audio-test or sound-test command or something in term? |
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| 12:28.24 | boudiccas | Seryth: did you get your usb automounting sorted out yesterday? |
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| 12:29.03 | fling | what are advantages of debian? |
| 12:29.09 | Seryth | boudiccas, Yeah! |
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| 12:29.17 | boudiccas | fling: compared to what? |
| 12:29.21 | Seryth | boudiccas, I had to edit fstab |
| 12:29.37 | Seryth | and use ntfs-3g |
| 12:29.40 | boudiccas | Seryth: oh! i never had to, but its working okay |
| 12:29.41 | pinkbits | fling: stability |
| 12:29.50 | fling | boudiccas: compared to other gnu/linux distributions |
| 12:29.53 | fling | pinkbits: ok |
| 12:29.55 | Seryth | boudiccas, Heh, yeah :) |
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| 12:30.13 | nsadmin | when I install gnome for squeeze, what window manager comes with it? |
| 12:30.19 | woshty | hmm, update from squeeze to wheezy broke my apache2 config |
| 12:31.43 | Seryth | dcherniv, the two options other than default that I have when I hit F6 in alsamixer are 0: HDA ATI SB and 1 HDA NVidia. I can only select the nVidia one, which I think is the HDMI port of my GPU, heh. The HDA ATI SB one just makes alsamixer quit when I select it |
| 12:31.48 | woshty | ah, httpd.conf disappeared |
| 12:31.58 | woshty | that should be caught |
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| 12:32.35 | simonlnu | testing something, excuse me |
| 12:32.39 | woshty | what package should i file a bug against? |
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| 12:33.03 | nyuszika7h | it would be time to add python 3.3 to sid... |
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| 12:33.11 | nyuszika7h | or even wheeezy |
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| 12:33.17 | nyuszika7h | * wheezy |
| 12:33.21 | fling | I have linux 2.6.32, is this regular? Don't I need a never one? |
| 12:33.26 | nyuszika7h | it seems python3.3 has vanished from the repos, there used to be a separate package |
| 12:33.34 | fling | s/never/newer |
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| 12:33.56 | nsadmin | fling, is it working? |
| 12:33.58 | nyuszika7h | !backports fling |
| 12:34.07 | nyuszika7h | !backports |
| 12:34.08 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 12:34.10 | nyuszika7h | you can install a newer kernel from there if you want |
| 12:34.13 | fling | nsadmin: yes, I can even boot it :] |
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| 12:34.20 | simonlnu | fling: for certain things yes. you can fetch one from bpo (as nsadmin just showed) |
| 12:34.31 | nyuszika7h | simonlnu: you mean me? :P |
| 12:34.35 | simonlnu | but it's not "needed" |
| 12:34.41 | pinkbits | fling: i use the same |
| 12:34.43 | nyuszika7h | it might be needed for some new hardware, afaik |
| 12:34.45 | simonlnu | nyuszika7h: oh yes, sorry |
| 12:35.00 | nyuszika7h | I heard ext4 doesn't like kernel 2.6 either, or something like that |
| 12:35.15 | nsadmin | it may or may not be needed based on whether a hardware device doesn't work with an older kernel driver |
| 12:36.06 | nyuszika7h | on my VPS I have kernel 3.5.2, installed from the control panel, not Debian itself :P |
| 12:36.37 | nerd | what are different branches of debian, stable , testing and ? |
| 12:36.43 | nsadmin | it could happen that the 2.;6.32 will work just fine |
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| 12:36.47 | simonlnu | !releases |
| 12:36.47 | dpkg | See http://www.debian.org/releases/ for an explanation of releases. See <release history> or http://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases for prior releases. Ask me about <stable>, <testing>, <unstable> and <introduction>. |
| 12:37.09 | nsadmin | nerd, look at /msg dpkg codenames |
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| 12:37.57 | nerd | thanks :) |
| 12:38.24 | woshty | i have to correct myself, there is more broken than just a missing empty config file |
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| 12:38.54 | Seryth | dcherniv, any ideas? |
| 12:39.18 | pinkbits | nerd: best described here http://www.debian.org/releases/ |
| 12:39.19 | dcherniv | sorry was afk |
| 12:39.24 | nyuszika7h | hey, how can I install the install script for debs? curl is complaining about an invalid SSL certificate |
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| 12:39.32 | nyuszika7h | s/install/change/ |
| 12:39.40 | fling | I do not have less, what is the default pager? |
| 12:39.43 | nsadmin | when I install gnome for squeeze, what window manager comes with it? |
| 12:39.58 | boudiccas | nsadmin: nautilus? |
| 12:39.59 | pinkbits | fling: more |
| 12:40.04 | fling | pinkbits: thanks |
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| 12:40.06 | dcherniv | Seryth, thats weird |
| 12:40.09 | nyuszika7h | boudiccas: : that's not a window manager |
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| 12:40.19 | nsadmin | boudiccas, boudi boudi boudi! |
| 12:40.21 | Seryth | dcherniv, :/ |
| 12:40.23 | nyuszika7h | it's a file manager. I think GDM, nsadmin |
| 12:40.25 | dcherniv | Seryth, pastebin lsmod |
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| 12:40.33 | boudiccas | nsadmin: oh, nvm, you wanted 'window manager' and not file manager |
| 12:40.34 | simonlnu | no, metacity. for gnome2 |
| 12:40.38 | Seryth | dcherniv, I already did, heh |
| 12:40.47 | nyuszika7h | oh |
| 12:40.50 | dcherniv | oh hang on |
| 12:40.55 | nsadmin | gdm is the login thiingy... |
| 12:41.00 | Seryth | <Seryth> http://paste.debian.net/211754/ dcherniv that's lsmod. When I hit F6, there were three listed; default, and two others...is there an audio-test or sound-test command or something in term? |
| 12:41.08 | fling | nsadmin: net started working after few reboots |
| 12:41.29 | fling | nsadmin: I have a bug somewhere in my setup |
| 12:41.34 | nsadmin | that sounds fairly unstable... |
| 12:42.05 | nsadmin | at this point I'd say try some more reboots to make sure it's working |
| 12:42.26 | dcherniv | Seryth, run rmmod snd_hda_codec_hdmi |
| 12:42.37 | dcherniv | Seryth, /etc/init.d/alsactl reload |
| 12:42.47 | Seryth | right |
| 12:43.11 | dcherniv | Seryth, also does nvidia hdmi comes first after default in the list? |
| 12:43.14 | Seryth | Error: Module snd_hda_codec_hdmi is in use, dcherniv |
| 12:43.41 | Seryth | No, it doesn't. The list goes default, HDA ATI SB, HDA Nvidia |
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| 12:45.16 | dcherniv | Seryth, ok lets try something |
| 12:45.24 | Seryth | Okay! |
| 12:45.32 | dcherniv | Seryth, open /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf as root |
| 12:45.38 | Seryth | yessir |
| 12:45.49 | fling | how to install mosh and screen? `apt-get install mosh screen´ ? |
| 12:45.55 | dcherniv | Seryth, find line defaults.ctl.card 0 |
| 12:45.58 | Seryth | right |
| 12:46.00 | dcherniv | Seryth, change 0 to 1 |
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| 12:46.15 | dcherniv | Seryth, same for defaults.pcm.card 0 |
| 12:46.26 | fling | 'E: Unable to locate package mosh', same for screen |
| 12:46.32 | Seryth | dcherniv, and defaults.pcm.device? |
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| 12:46.43 | dcherniv | Seryth, yep |
| 12:47.12 | nerd | really debain is the most stable and most secure linux distro for production use right ? |
| 12:47.22 | dcherniv | nerd, sure thing |
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| 12:47.33 | Seryth | dcherniv, Okay, done it |
| 12:47.35 | fling | dcherniv: why |
| 12:47.41 | Seryth | any others I need to change? |
| 12:47.48 | dcherniv | Seryth, nope restart alsa |
| 12:48.01 | Seryth | fling, because debian squeeze is frozen, basically, as stable |
| 12:48.11 | dcherniv | fling, it doesnt try to cram latest and greatest packages like ubuntu |
| 12:48.15 | fling | Seryth: how to istall mosh and screen? |
| 12:48.25 | fling | Seryth: E: Unable to locate package screen |
| 12:48.29 | dcherniv | fling, apt-get install mosh screen |
| 12:48.33 | Seryth | hm |
| 12:48.35 | fling | dcherniv: no |
| 12:48.36 | Seryth | check your sources.list |
| 12:48.42 | Seryth | make sure you've got the right mirrors in there |
| 12:48.50 | Seryth | /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 12:49.02 | fling | I do not have locate yet |
| 12:49.03 | fling | ok |
| 12:49.24 | fling | deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main ; deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main |
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| 12:49.37 | fling | do I need to add something to this file? |
| 12:49.43 | Seryth | fling, is that it? |
| 12:49.47 | Seryth | uh, yeah |
| 12:49.58 | dcherniv | fling, oh my... yes |
| 12:50.20 | fling | Seryth: http://dpaste.com/835327/ |
| 12:50.31 | fling | dcherniv: what? :p |
| 12:50.39 | Seryth | http://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList fling |
| 12:50.46 | Seryth | look at the example for squeeze on that page |
| 12:50.51 | dcherniv | fling, deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free |
| 12:51.04 | simonlnu | !http.debian.net |
| 12:51.04 | dpkg | To have <APT> automatically select a mirror geographically close to you, you can use a Geo-IP service from http.debian.net. An example line for your sources.list is "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main". See http://http.debian.net/ for more information. Unlike <cdn.debian.net>, it is safe to use with Google DNS etc because it uses HTTP 302 redirects. See also <which http.debian.net>. |
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| 12:51.18 | Seryth | dcherniv, how do I restart alsa? |
| 12:51.28 | dcherniv | /etc/init.d/alsactl reload |
| 12:51.36 | Seryth | alsactl not found |
| 12:51.39 | Seryth | O.o |
| 12:51.44 | dcherniv | Seryth, my bad alsa-utils |
| 12:51.57 | Seryth | Done |
| 12:52.06 | Seryth | with errors though |
| 12:52.07 | dcherniv | Seryth, try to run alsamixer |
| 12:52.13 | dcherniv | Seryth, what does it say? |
| 12:52.20 | dcherniv | Seryth, what are the errors? |
| 12:52.31 | Seryth | http://paste.debian.net/211758/ dcherniv |
| 12:53.25 | fling | Seryth: deb http://mirror.yandex.ru/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free |
| 12:53.31 | fling | Now I have screen |
| 12:53.32 | nsadmin | Can I tell metacity to feed mouse and keyboard to attach to a (full-screen) app? |
| 12:53.38 | debnewby | hey there guys i got some newby question for u :) i installed a fileserver yesterday and now i want a ftp ontop of it so that i can connect from the internet to my fileserver at home. Is that possible or do i need a stand alone ftp server ? Second question : If yes what do i need to make it work :)? |
| 12:53.39 | Seryth | fling, great :) |
| 12:53.46 | fling | Seryth: but it can't find mosh package |
| 12:54.01 | Seryth | fling, you need backports |
| 12:54.06 | Seryth | add a backports mirror |
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| 12:54.24 | fling | Seryth: http://mirror.yandex.ru/debian-backports/ ? |
| 12:54.25 | dcherniv | Seryth, hm |
| 12:54.45 | Seryth | http://backports-master.debian.org/ fling |
| 12:54.56 | nsadmin | debnewby, better to use scp or sftp (not plain ftp) |
| 12:54.58 | Seryth | I don't know if yandex supply a backports mirror |
| 12:55.12 | Seryth | ah, they do |
| 12:55.14 | Seryth | fling, yes |
| 12:55.17 | Seryth | dcherniv, :/ |
| 12:55.34 | dcherniv | Seryth, change defaults.hwdep.card to 1 as well |
| 12:56.02 | Seryth | Doing it |
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| 12:56.11 | debnewby | nsadmin: ok i had proftpd in mind , but ok :) what about my "problem"? :) |
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| 12:56.41 | Seryth | dcherniv, that defaulds doesn't exist |
| 12:56.46 | Seryth | defaults* option |
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| 12:57.29 | fling | Seryth: installed mosh, thanks |
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| 12:57.31 | dcherniv | Seryth, hm |
| 12:57.33 | nsadmin | it depends on what this "file server" thing you have consists of |
| 12:57.41 | dcherniv | Seryth, alsamixer doesnt start i suppose? |
| 12:58.07 | Seryth | dcherniv, it does, but it's using the HDA NVidia soundcard |
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| 12:58.52 | debnewby | nsadmin: its based on debian squeeze ... just a normal fileserver with some groups and users nothing special so far |
| 12:59.03 | dcherniv | Seryth, ah nvidia was second in the system nvm. my problem was hdmi was detecting first and alsa was trying to use that |
| 12:59.11 | dcherniv | Seryth, revert the changes to alsa.conf |
| 12:59.26 | Seryth | dcherniv, and again, if I try and change it to the HDA ATI SB from the F6 menu, it quits |
| 12:59.29 | Seryth | right |
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| 12:59.42 | nsadmin | ok, so each user should be able to scp or sftp into the machine |
| 12:59.46 | dcherniv | Seryth, any error messages when it crashes? |
| 13:00.00 | dcherniv | Seryth, anything in dmesg? |
| 13:00.03 | Seryth | cannot load mixer controls: Invalid argument dcherniv |
| 13:00.20 | simonlnu | debnewby: ssh brings you sftp and scp. |
| 13:00.24 | nsadmin | there's no particular protection that prevents one user from wantering to another user's home dir |
| 13:00.29 | simonlnu | !ftp must die |
| 13:00.30 | dpkg | FTP MUST DIE! http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie . If you really just want to provide anonymous download of files, use HTTP: http://daniel.haxx.se/docs/ftp-vs-http.html |
| 13:00.33 | Seryth | dcherniv, Only a load of stuff from me running `speaker-test` in dmsg |
| 13:00.47 | abrotman | besides chroot? |
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| 13:01.35 | fling | Seryth: don't I need anything else to run this? > http://dpaste.com/835337/ |
| 13:01.47 | dcherniv | Seryth, did you try this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1578361 |
| 13:02.01 | Seryth | fling, what are you trying to run? |
| 13:02.18 | fling | Seryth: http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Skypiax#Debian_6_.28Squeeze.29_and_Ubuntu_12.04.x_.28LTS.29_required_packages |
| 13:02.23 | Seryth | fling, I'll give it a go now |
| 13:02.29 | fling | thanks! |
| 13:02.31 | Seryth | uh, I mean dcherniv * |
| 13:03.03 | debnewby | so i should use "just" ssh ? Sry for my stupid questions , as i said im brand new to this ^^.... then how can i connect from a faraway place to my home server via ssh ? |
| 13:03.06 | Seryth | fling, try it! I don't see why it wouldn't work |
| 13:03.18 | fling | Seryth: it can't find ubuntu-standard |
| 13:03.30 | Seryth | not surprising, you're on debian |
| 13:03.44 | fling | right, sorry |
| 13:03.50 | dcherniv | debnewby, using any of the sftp/ssh clients out there |
| 13:03.52 | Seryth | try removing ubuntu-standard |
| 13:04.18 | dcherniv | debnewby, winscp for example, or putty |
| 13:04.39 | fling | Seryth: trying, home and end keys are not working so it takes a lot of time to edit a long command :p |
| 13:04.40 | nsadmin | fling, you don't want to mix the two either... it will become an unstable frankenmoster that iroically will die,,, and you'll say "It's NOT alieve!" |
| 13:04.58 | fling | nsadmin: umm |
| 13:04.59 | Seryth | fling, haha |
| 13:05.30 | fling | Seryth: it is downloading and doing something |
| 13:05.35 | debnewby | dcherniv ok that is (suprise :-D) something that i already know, and i already manage my fileserver via ssh but i dont get the adressing through the web |
| 13:05.44 | fling | Seryth: I have some time for a late lunch :p |
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| 13:06.12 | Seryth | http://paste.debian.net/211759/ dcherniv, that's the output of aply -l....I presume I want to be using the ones that don't say HDMI? |
| 13:06.13 | dcherniv | debnewby, your server has public IP? |
| 13:06.14 | nsadmin | turkey sandwiches |
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| 13:06.25 | boudiccas | if i use synaptic to install some programs and i have apt-listbugs enabled and installed, will synaptic just sit and wait for me to answer the listbugs printout, or wil it just time out and continue because it seems to be taking an extremely long time and just showing synaptic and apt-listbugs in atop |
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| 13:06.59 | dcherniv | Seryth, try this in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, add |
| 13:07.00 | dcherniv | options snd-hda-intel model=generic |
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| 13:07.42 | cwillu_at_work | joules, you're aware that the encoding of a string is often longer than the string, right? |
| 13:07.51 | davent | So, why does my automated install process (pressed) always prompt me for a Keyboard configuration? |
| 13:07.57 | dcherniv | debnewby, if its behind a router you need to forward port 22 to your server from the router then just connect to your routers ip |
| 13:08.04 | Seryth | dcherniv, I followed that ubuntu forums post, but when I tried to play front_center.wav, I can't hear anything |
| 13:08.07 | davent | Highlight the correct option, but prompts for selection |
| 13:08.29 | boudiccas | Seryth: does front-center.wav exist? |
| 13:08.42 | jhutchins_wk | davent: You are not successfully setting the keyboard layout in your preseed. |
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| 13:09.07 | davent | jhutchins_wk: Basically, no examples, tutorials, RTFMing works |
| 13:09.24 | jhutchins_wk | davent: Yeah, sorry. |
| 13:09.25 | debnewby | dcherniv sry i was afk for a sec.... its a public ip yes |
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| 13:09.36 | debnewby | and its behind a router |
| 13:09.36 | davent | jhutchins_wk: it knows which one I want as it is highlighted, but I have to manually hit enter to select it |
| 13:09.43 | Seryth | boudiccas, ah, no >.< |
| 13:09.48 | dcherniv | debnewby, forward port 22 from the router to the server |
| 13:09.58 | nsadmin | is the router the one with th epublic IP? |
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| 13:10.23 | dcherniv | Seryth, im out of ideas sorry |
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| 13:10.26 | Seryth | boudiccas, oh, my bad, yes it does exist |
| 13:10.29 | jhutchins_wk | debnewby: Better: forward an arbitrary port on the router to 22 on the hst. |
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| 13:11.07 | Seryth | dcherniv, Okay, I'll keep fiddling. Thanks for your help! |
| 13:11.21 | dcherniv | Seryth, did you restart after this: |
| 13:11.25 | dcherniv | Seryth, in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, add |
| 13:11.25 | dcherniv | options snd-hda-intel model=generic |
| 13:11.30 | Seryth | Yup |
| 13:11.36 | Seryth | restarted alsa |
| 13:12.03 | dcherniv | Seryth, nah you gotta either reload sound modules or restart computer |
| 13:12.09 | dcherniv | Seryth, thats kernel-level |
| 13:12.13 | Seryth | Oh, okay |
| 13:12.20 | Seryth | How do i reload the sound modules? |
| 13:12.50 | dcherniv | Seryth, just restart its easier |
| 13:12.54 | Seryth | oky doky |
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| 13:13.10 | Seryth | dcherniv, I'll be back in a minute then! :) |
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| 13:15.46 | debnewby | ok guys :D so there are TCP / UDP Portrange(s) ... so im adding for example 22 to TCP right ? |
| 13:16.27 | dcherniv | debnewby, no ranges just one port TCP |
| 13:16.58 | nsadmin | do you mean there are ranges for your router? |
| 13:17.20 | jhutchins_wk | debnewby:The problem with using 22 is that you are likely to get brute force attacks. If you use an arbitrary port, say 222, you know which port to use but the botnets don't. |
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| 13:17.34 | debnewby | TCP Portranges it says ... but u can also add a single number |
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| 13:17.48 | nsadmin | and, for sftp/scp/ssh you just need the one port which by default is 22 |
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| 13:18.44 | debnewby | jhutchint_wk ok thanks, i read this from u before i just took that as an example :) |
| 13:19.32 | nsadmin | tcp is for byte streams... udp is packety |
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| 13:20.30 | Seryth | dcherniv, still no sound |
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| 13:20.50 | Seryth | Alsamixer says I'm using PulseAudio |
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| 13:21.39 | dcherniv | Seryth, i dont know man |
| 13:21.54 | boudiccas | Seryth: have you got pavucontrol [i think] installed, because that can help too |
| 13:22.29 | debnewby | nsadmin which one to use for sharing files from one to another pc ? |
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| 13:23.08 | debnewby | TCP sounds best i goes from what iam reading right now |
| 13:23.14 | debnewby | *guess |
| 13:23.27 | Seryth | boudiccas, yes I do |
| 13:23.32 | Seryth | dcherniv, :/ aite |
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| 13:23.55 | boudiccas | Seryth: try configuring with that and see ioif you get sound |
| 13:24.12 | hR13 | hi all, anyone know if its possible to use clementine as a frontend to the ampache music server? |
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| 13:24.29 | lautriv | whoever is around and runs a board with Opteron K8 / 8131/8111 and maybe 8151 .... please give me a lspci -tvv |
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| 13:26.49 | Seryth | boudiccas, no output devices are listed in pavcontrol |
| 13:27.04 | debnewby | thanks so far all of u ciao :) |
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| 13:32.04 | Na_Klar | can I mount a usb drive as cdrom AND flash drive? |
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| 13:34.20 | Na_Klar | or can I mount /cdrom for not write-protected? |
| 13:35.21 | debnewby | me again :D .... so im using putty and im typing in my IP right below Host Name and the port i chose under 'Port:' then i say connect and it says Connection refused hmpf |
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| 13:38.18 | lautriv | debhelper, sure your sshd is up ? |
| 13:38.43 | sphenxes | I would like to use echo command in parcellite. I had the echo command to action. Now i have echo %s, but i don't know how to use it. can someone explain to me how to use the action command in parcellite. |
| 13:39.02 | lorenzosu | debnewby: Sometime's I've experienced that problem from the client side. That is, for example, 'something' is blocking connections to 22 port on your side |
| 13:39.06 | fling | Seryth: installed! |
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| 13:39.28 | Seryth | fling, brilliant, all working correctly? |
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| 13:39.44 | debnewby | i chose another port |
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| 13:40.14 | fling | Seryth: I don't know yet, next step is to git pull something… |
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| 13:40.42 | Seryth | fling, Okay :) |
| 13:40.53 | dcherniv | Na_Klar, cdrom is read only by definition |
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| 13:48.13 | safridzal | some apps on my testing KDE randomly closed (well, it just for supertuxkart and googleearth tho), there's no error when im running it from konsole, even if they "self-close".. any thought? |
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| 13:55.34 | Na_Klar | dcherniv, well I thought I could mount it with -o rw, but I have trouble to umount it. Anyways, I am going another way. ty |
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| 13:57.46 | FilipeMaia | Hi. I'm getting CUDA ELF Image contains unknown ABI version: 5 when running cuda-gdb. Does anyone know what this could be. It didn't use to happen twhen I was using the nvidia provided toolkit instead of the debian one. |
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| 14:01.44 | FilipeMaia | How do I make sure I uninstalled the Nvidia provided drivers? |
| 14:01.51 | FilipeMaia | Or how do I check the driver version? |
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| 14:02.39 | abrotman | how did you install them? |
| 14:02.59 | FilipeMaia | Ok I think I have the debian drivers |
| 14:03.19 | FilipeMaia | At least the version matches the one in packages.debian.org |
| 14:03.32 | FilipeMaia | I think the issue is that the nvidia drivers were updated faster than the cuda toolkit |
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| 14:03.49 | FilipeMaia | And now the drivers produces JITed coded that the debugger does not understand |
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| 14:04.06 | FilipeMaia | As explained here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12373255/cuda-driver-initialization-failed |
| 14:04.12 | FilipeMaia | This is for debian testing |
| 14:04.37 | FilipeMaia | I think the drivers correspond to CUDA 5.0 but testing currently only provides CUDA 4.2 |
| 14:04.57 | FilipeMaia | So when debugging I "get unknown ABI version: 5" |
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| 14:11.18 | abrotman | together, at the same time |
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| 14:13.37 | fling | how to remove sound modules properly? |
| 14:13.44 | fling | I need empty lsmod | grep snd |
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| 14:14.46 | abrotman | blacklist them |
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| 14:18.00 | dFence | hey guys! I'm utterly clueless when it comes to shell-scripting, but I need a little (hopefully) one-liner; it should execute 'locale -a' if it's in PATH – can anyone help me out? |
| 14:18.45 | mads- | Does anyone know how I can share the same display as I have on my screen through vnc? Like teamviewer does it. When I try to start my tightvncserver :1 it tells me :0 is already locked |
| 14:19.04 | ChrisH | dFence: locale -a ; if it's in PATH it will be executed otherwise you will get an error. |
| 14:19.52 | dFence | ChrisH: it's the error-message i'm trying to avoid; I want to run it from a php-script, and an error-message would look.. not so pretty :) |
| 14:20.23 | abrotman | dFence: $(which locale) ? |
| 14:20.41 | dFence | I'm thinking of something like if `which locale` != 0 then locale -a fi |
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| 14:21.25 | ChrisH | test -x locales && echo found || echo missing |
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| 14:21.41 | ChrisH | note: locales to trigger the not-found-case |
| 14:21.59 | ChrisH | does not work... delete from record |
| 14:22.04 | dFence | ;) |
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| 14:23.14 | dFence | ChrisH: which returns 0 if found – is there a way to use that? |
| 14:23.33 | fling | abrotman: thanks |
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| 14:25.01 | ChrisH | dFence: abrotman's way is nice... test "x$(which locales)" = "x" && echo NOK || echo OK |
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| 14:26.04 | dFence | ChrisH: it still returns "OK" even if it's not there |
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| 14:26.46 | ChrisH | not for me in bash |
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| 14:27.25 | dFence | ChrisH: -_- I replaced "x" with "0"... works fine - thanks all! |
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| 14:31.10 | zykotick9 | ls |
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| 14:32.04 | ptrkmj | is it possible to start X11 program (transmission-gtk torrent client for that matter) and logout so that it keeps running in the backround while another user logs on? |
| 14:34.55 | dFence | ChrisH: what should I use instead of "echo NOK" if I want an empty result? |
| 14:36.07 | zykotick9 | ptrkmj: not easily. check out xpra, it bills itself as a "screen for X". i only discovered it yesterday, so my details are very light. |
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| 14:36.27 | nsadmin | return ""? |
| 14:36.57 | dFence | nsadmin: can only `return' from a function or sourced script |
| 14:37.50 | ChrisH | dFence: depends on your needs... anything from do nothing to echo " install locale you xxxx" replace xxx with a nice name :) |
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| 14:38.48 | dFence | ChrisH: the "do nothing" – echo returns an empty string which is interpreted as a result by the script |
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| 14:39.40 | nsadmin | oh ok... I misunderstood your use of the word "result" then :) |
| 14:40.08 | dFence | nsadmin: sorry - I try to avoid bash-scripting as good as I can ;) |
| 14:40.29 | ChrisH | dFence: invert the logic != and only use the other option |
| 14:40.55 | dFence | ChrisH: got it, thanks! |
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| 14:42.27 | nsadmin | dFence, I can understand that :) |
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| 14:54.48 | mehdi | no wireless networks found in my newlly installed? |
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| 14:57.08 | mehdi | no wireless networks found in my newly installed debian? |
| 14:57.36 | doomster | blame your neighbours! ;) |
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| 14:57.58 | ChrisH | mehdi: needed firmware loaded? |
| 14:58.02 | abrotman | mehdi: did oyu install the firmware for oyur device? |
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| 14:59.13 | mehdi | i'm newbie to linux, could you please let me what to do? |
| 14:59.30 | abrotman | mehdi: lspci -nn .. what's the wireless device? |
| 15:00.20 | mehdi | intel (R)pro/wireless 3945ABG |
| 15:01.29 | abrotman | !tell mehdi about ipw3945 |
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| 15:02.09 | woshty | can i tell sed to write to input file without doing a > inputfile? |
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| 15:02.35 | abrotman | why can't you use > ? |
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| 15:03.25 | woshty | abrotman: i could .. but sed a > a looks bad. if there is a switch for that i ll rather use it |
| 15:03.44 | mehdi | in network connection, there is no active wireless networks |
| 15:03.49 | petn-randall | Can anyone tell me how to determine which drives are each others mirror in a RAID10 (mdadm)? |
| 15:04.04 | petn-randall | Unfortunately #mdadm is dead on oftc.net |
| 15:04.24 | mehdi | how can i know whether my wireless installed or not? |
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| 15:04.51 | abrotman | mehdi: if you iddn't install the firmware, it's not installed |
| 15:04.54 | abrotman | woshty: what? |
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| 15:04.56 | tremon | woshty: sed -i |
| 15:05.03 | abrotman | tremon: output |
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| 15:05.53 | dcherniv | abrotman, ipw3945 has been deprecated for like 5 years now |
| 15:05.55 | tremon | incidentally, any $ prog a > a will result in an empty input read by prog, because bash truncates a before running prog |
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| 15:06.15 | tremon | abrotman: -i is --in-place, not an inputfile parameter |
| 15:06.18 | dcherniv | !iwlwifi |
| 15:06.19 | dpkg | The iwlwifi Linux kernel driver supports Intel 3945 ABG, 4965 AGN and several Intel 802.11n adapters (WiFi Link, Wireless-N, Advanced-N, Ultimate-N). Firmware is required, ask me about <non-free sources> and install the firmware-iwlwifi package to provide. Supported devices are listed at http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi . See also <iwlegacy>. |
| 15:06.22 | woshty | tremon: ah, that might do what i want |
| 15:06.29 | woshty | thank you |
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| 15:07.14 | abrotman | tremon: right, but i got the feeling he wanted to output to a different file? |
| 15:07.15 | petn-randall | tremon, abrotman: -i does take a parameter, but that will then be used a backup suffix |
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| 15:07.28 | dcherniv | mehdi, sudo apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi |
| 15:07.31 | abrotman | dcherniv: you can msg the bot |
| 15:07.47 | abrotman | and he was already told to install that firmware .. |
| 15:08.07 | tremon | abrotman: I understood it as "I want to write to my inputfile" |
| 15:08.14 | dcherniv | !tell dcherniv about ipw3945 |
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| 15:08.42 | woshty | abrotman: no, misunderstanding .. i want to write to the source file, just replacing parts of it |
| 15:08.46 | dcherniv | abrotman, my bad didnt realize ipw3945 was redirecting to new driver here |
| 15:08.56 | tremon | petn-randall: you are right. The suffix for -i is optional though and I never use it (which is why I forgot) |
| 15:09.19 | abrotman | woshty: i misunderstood .. carry on! |
| 15:09.37 | dorian | if there's a newer version of a package in backports does it not automatically override the one in main? |
| 15:09.48 | dorian | because i am having a hell of a time installing postgresql-9.1 on squeeze |
| 15:09.49 | tremon | dorian: correct |
| 15:10.08 | dorian | so it does not override? |
| 15:10.15 | abrotman | it does not .. you have to bve explicit |
| 15:10.26 | dorian | and how does one do that? |
| 15:10.32 | abrotman | dorian: aptitude -t squeeze-backports install foo |
| 15:10.39 | abrotman | the faq covers this |
| 15:10.39 | dorian | ah thank you |
| 15:10.58 | dorian | the apt faq? |
| 15:11.00 | mehdi | i just did what you told me, should i restart pc to take effect? |
| 15:11.06 | abrotman | the fawq on the backports website |
| 15:11.09 | abrotman | mehdi: yes |
| 15:11.48 | mehdi | ok i do it |
| 15:11.53 | mehdi | thanks now |
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| 15:21.36 | FilipeMaia | What are the debian packages to get infiniband working? |
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| 15:25.17 | jhutchins_wk | FilipeMaia: Depends on your hardware. |
| 15:25.23 | FilipeMaia | jhutchins_wk: mellanox |
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| 15:28.20 | jhutchins_wk | FilipeMaia: lspci -nn paste ONLY the relevant ID. |
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| 15:28.42 | FilipeMaia | 82:00.0 InfiniBand [0c06]: Mellanox Technologies MT26428 [ConnectX VPI PCIe 2.0 5GT/s - IB QDR / 10GigE] [15b3:673c] (rev b0) |
| 15:28.50 | abrotman | oh yay |
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| 15:30.41 | jhutchins_wk | FilipeMaia: What are you using it for? |
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| 15:30.57 | FilipeMaia | jhutchins_wk: I would like to use it to have NFS over ipoib |
| 15:31.18 | FilipeMaia | jhutchins_wk: the other machiens are redhat and I just need to install rdma |
| 15:31.18 | intore | hi, I removed gnome and installed xfce on debian squeeze. Everything is almost ok except something. I can't type characters like "@" generated using Alt Gr. I tried to reconfigure the keyboard using dpkg-reconfigure console-data but still doesn't type these characters. Could you help me please? |
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| 15:32.07 | FilipeMaia | jhutchins_wk modprobe ib_ipoib didn't seem to have much effect |
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| 15:33.31 | FilipeMaia | Loading mlx4_ib gave some results |
| 15:34.05 | nkuttler | intore: make sure the altgr key is working first, use xev |
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| 15:36.03 | intore | nkuttler, it works! |
| 15:36.04 | jhutchins_wk | FilipeMaia: Looks like Mellanox has their own software for Linux. |
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| 15:36.34 | FilipeMaia | jhutchins_wk: yes i know but i don't want to use it. The stuff that comes with redhat for examples is easier and better than the mellanox stuff |
| 15:36.45 | FilipeMaia | jhutchins_wk: it's basically the same software with different packagings |
| 15:37.23 | jhutchins_wk | http://www.recital.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=270:howto-installation-of-mellanox-infiniband-ofed-stack-on-linux&catid=64:ha-and-clustering&Itemid=101 |
| 15:37.24 | jhutchins_wk | ,pciid 15b3:673c |
| 15:37.25 | judd | [15b3:673c] is 'MT26428 [ConnectX VPI PCIe 2.0 5GT/s - IB QDR / 10GigE]' from 'Mellanox Technologies' with kernel module 'mlx4_core' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=15b3:673c |
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| 15:38.50 | FilipeMaia | jhutchins_wk: thanks i'm halfway there |
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| 15:39.03 | FilipeMaia | jhutchins_wk: should I just add mlnx_ib to /etc/modules? |
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| 15:39.11 | roger21 | hello, i have an external hd set up in my fstab and when the hd is unpluged the system won't boot because it tried endlessly to mount it, is ther a way to tell him not to be that stuburn? |
| 15:39.28 | jhutchins_wk | FilipeMaia: You should be able to find the same packages in Debian, I doubt that Red Hat develops them itself. |
| 15:39.56 | FilipeMaia | jhutchins_wk: sure |
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| 15:40.58 | abrotman | they may .. infiniband used to not play well with others, not sure anymore |
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| 15:45.44 | petn-randall | roger21: Yes, add the 'noauto' mount option to fstab |
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| 15:55.16 | MadMockers | -.- |
| 15:55.29 | jhutchins_wk | abrotman: Actually, it's become pretty much a non-issue. Just works in RH4-6, probably in Debian as well. Doing funny stuff like tcp/ip over infiniband instead of using it for multipath disk mounts is another matter though. |
| 15:55.47 | abrotman | jhutchins_wk: i said used to .. thanks |
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| 15:57.42 | acu_ | What is a command for taking a directory off the PATH list? |
| 15:57.59 | abrotman | it's an environment variable |
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| 16:11.11 | roger21 | petn-randall, but won't it prevent automatic mount at boot ? |
| 16:12.20 | roger21 | because i need to be automaticaly mounted at boot (when it is there) i have a deamon that uses it |
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| 16:13.41 | petn-randall | roger21: Your setup is flawed ... how does your daemon cope with the non-existing mount? |
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| 16:14.29 | roger21 | it doesn't, it should fail in this case |
| 16:14.53 | roger21 | but i prefer the daemon to fail and the system to boot than no system boot |
| 16:14.57 | petn-randall | roger21: I'd recommend using either autofs, or writing a short script that checks if the device is there and only then mounts it and starts the daemon. |
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| 16:16.15 | roger21 | petn-randall, is autofs a mount option? |
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| 16:28.21 | petn-randall | roger21: It's a daemon that mounts filesystems when they are needed. |
| 16:29.04 | petn-randall | roger21: = accessed. Though it will still give you problems if your daemon tries to access the non-existing file system. |
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| 16:30.01 | roger21 | yeah, the script seems to be the right things to do |
| 16:30.53 | acu_ | abrotman, I added a directory to PATH using command: export PATH="/new dir:$PATH" . No want to take it off the list . Is there a command for it? |
| 16:30.56 | roger21 | but i'm surprised that it sucks that much, why does the stratup mounting is that stuborn it fails the system boot |
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| 16:32.55 | Catbuntu | hi |
| 16:33.11 | format_c | Hit Catbuntu |
| 16:33.13 | format_c | Hi |
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| 16:33.35 | frikinz | I'm trying to add an LV to a running VG using lvcreate. I'm getting "Aborting. Failed to wipe start of new LV". Does anybody have a clue what this is supposed to mean or what I should do? |
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| 16:40.34 | abrotman | acu_: same as you did ot add it |
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| 16:41.17 | frikinz | /dev/myvg/newlv: file not found. device not cleared. |
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| 16:43.48 | nsadmin | frikinz, what user are you when you try to do this? |
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| 16:44.19 | frikinz | root, in single user mode |
| 16:44.22 | frikinz | nsadmin: ^ |
| 16:44.48 | nsadmin | can you try vgchange -a y |
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| 16:45.25 | acu_ | Abrotman, that command only adds directory to the PATH list. Now I have two directories there that I don't needI need to add a directory containing a binary to the list of PATH directories. As a user I used command 'PATH=$PATH:/new_directory' Do I need to add this line anywhere else? |
| 16:45.43 | nsadmin | after that does exist /dev/yourvg |
| 16:46.20 | frikinz | nsadmin: done that. 3 LV now active. the LV were already active so wrong message but anyway |
| 16:46.32 | frikinz | nsadmin: -a y right? not -a n? |
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| 16:47.29 | nsadmin | -a y (wanted to make sure active, and I don't know if that's actually necessary to add lvs to the vg) |
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| 16:48.16 | nsadmin | how exactly are you trying to create the lv? |
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| 16:49.47 | frikinz | nsadmin: lvcreate -n raid0 -L 110G e11053-deb |
| 16:49.54 | frikinz | nsadmin: e11053-deb is the hostname |
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| 16:50.03 | frikinz | nsadmin: vg has 150G free |
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| 16:50.56 | frikinz | I initially removed 2 LV. Also rebooted in case a lock holds something |
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| 16:51.33 | frikinz | Exactly: shrunk a LV, removed 2 others, create this LV, problem. Reboot. Problem |
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| 16:51.47 | acu_ | abrotman, sorry for the confusing message. I just wanted to say that export PATH="/new directory:$PATH" only adds a directory to the PATH list , I need that directory off the list |
| 16:51.48 | unixmito | wooooo hello |
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| 16:52.26 | nsadmin | what were the problems? |
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| 16:54.39 | abrotman | acu_: so undo htat .. use the same method |
| 16:54.54 | frikinz | nsadmin: well, when running this command lvcreate it tells me. /dev/e11053-dev/raid0: file not found. device not cleared. Aborting. Failed to wipe start of new LV. |
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| 16:59.48 | frikinz | nsadmin: I added -Z n and it worked. "do not clear the first KB of data in the new logical volume" |
| 17:00.04 | frikinz | I'm not impressed about all the lvm bugs until now |
| 17:00.57 | frikinz | ok. time to build a huge raid. ciao |
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| 17:08.36 | nsadmin | frikins, there's a lot going on... |
| 17:09.25 | nsadmin | earlier you said "<frikinz> Exactly: shrunk a LV, removed 2 others, create this LV, problem<1>. Reboot. Problem<2>" |
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| 17:10.11 | nsadmin | what I meant before, was what were problem<1> and <2>? |
| 17:11.12 | acu_ | abrotman, thanks , the directory is not on the list now after I rebooted the computer. Do I need to make changes to any other file like .bashrc ? |
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| 17:11.54 | acu_ | I mean if I want to add another directory to the PATH list and have it persist? |
| 17:12.15 | boudiccas | acu: no need to reboot, just log out and log in again |
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| 17:14.16 | boudiccas | acu: my understanding is that profile is system-wide for all users, whereas .bashrc is just for one individual user |
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| 17:16.56 | nsadmin | boudiccas, in case you want to see the details, look at man bash FILES section |
| 17:17.34 | nsadmin | which should be the details about what files bash sources when and under what circumstances |
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| 17:18.45 | acu_ | boudiccas, if I want a directory to be on PATH list and use one of these commands: export PATH="/new_directory:$PATH" or PATH=$PATH:/new_dir is it enough for that directory to persist or do I have to add it to .bashrc for that user? |
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| 17:21.22 | Deborah | list |
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| 17:23.32 | ubd | i have a question but dont know where to ask. im using debin and iceweasel. when viewing a long web page (http://urukrama.wordpress.com/openbox-guide/) it was so slow to scroll up/down so i thought i shall print to pdf. While printing to pdf, scrolling get very fast /usable. when the printing finished, it got slow again. ?! |
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| 17:26.54 | frikinz | nsadmin: yes, there is a lot going on indeed. well both problem were the same, failed to wipe start of lv. anyway, all is running fine now. |
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| 17:28.31 | nsadmin | oh it is? what solved it? |
| 17:28.47 | frikinz | nsadmin: -Z n (don't zero start of lv) |
| 17:28.55 | vivi | ubd: Is it only that web page where this slow down occurs? |
| 17:29.10 | frikinz | "do not clear the first KB of data in the new logical volume" |
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| 17:31.03 | nsadmin | you shouldn't need to rebot when runing pv, vg or lv commands |
| 17:31.31 | nsadmin | just to save you a little time :) |
| 17:31.45 | frikinz | nsadmin: I know.. but I've also had strange stuffs with lock being kept so that was my last attempt |
| 17:32.34 | frikinz | I also shouldn't need to pass -Z n .. ;) |
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| 17:33.43 | nsadmin | ahh. well I'm glad it worked out.... looks like you found and fixed the problem yourself |
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| 17:35.12 | julius__ | hi |
| 17:35.37 | julius__ | how does the mangle table in iptables work, does it stop processing rules if one matches or are all rules processed? |
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| 17:37.33 | Brigo | julius__: the netfilter table mangle has 5 chains: iptables -S -t mangle |
| 17:38.09 | Brigo | when a packet match a chain the chain's rules are compared, like in filter table. |
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| 17:39.28 | julius__ | in filter processing is aborted if one rules matched, yesterday somebody told me that in mangle all rules are processed no matter of a match already occoured or not |
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| 17:42.18 | Brigo | julius__: i am not sure, but i think this is tarjet dependent. There is terminating tarjets, like DROP ones and non-terminating tarjets, like log. |
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| 17:42.38 | julius__ | ok thx |
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| 18:04.39 | mschr | hi guys |
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| 18:05.15 | mschr | im running a java build script and it warns about JAVA_HOME not being set.. As follows: Warning: JAVA_HOME environment variable is not set (or not exported). |
| 18:05.59 | mschr | i have a file in /etc/profile.d/java containing JAVA_HOME=/path ; export JAVA_HOME however, it is not exported to environment variable set? |
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| 18:07.49 | dcherniv_ | mschr, for i in /etc/profile.d/*.sh; do |
| 18:07.50 | dcherniv_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:08.05 | dcherniv_ | mschr, only files ending in .sh are executed from /etc/profile.d |
| 18:08.56 | jalalsfs | Hi everyone here, |
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| 18:09.27 | mschr | dcherniv_ still no dice.. not even if i put it in /etc/profile directly |
| 18:09.31 | jalalsfs | I want to use testing version of Debian, what should I write in source.list? |
| 18:09.44 | jalalsfs | Wheezy-updates or testing? |
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| 18:10.42 | jhutchins_wk | jalalsfs: Just wheezy. |
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| 18:11.29 | dcherniv_ | mschr, did you log out/in after? |
| 18:11.36 | mschr | im trying /etc/environment as well, but JAVA_HOME=/path ; export JAVA_HOME is not setting the env either |
| 18:11.56 | mschr | doing su root, i would believe, yes |
| 18:12.06 | jalalsfs | jhutchins_wk, But wheezy now is freezed |
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| 18:12.22 | mschr | dcherniv_ hmm :) |
| 18:12.27 | dcherniv_ | mschr, eh, su root is not the same |
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| 18:12.55 | mschr | got it, thx |
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| 18:13.23 | mschr | was the .sh extension that has been buggin me this whole time.. |
| 18:14.09 | dcherniv_ | mschr, no problem |
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| 18:14.32 | JordiGH | Is there a way to tell dpkg-buildpackage to not run the test suite? Or do I have to edit debian/rules for that? |
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| 18:15.37 | mtree | hey i need help, i have problem with my lvm partition encrypted with luks. It works fine in fedora/archlinux. I even managed to mount it with livecd but not after installation: |
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| 18:15.39 | mtree | mtree@eos:~$ sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/VolNebula/lVolHome home |
| 18:15.41 | mtree | Device /dev/VolNebula/lVolHome is not a valid LUKS device. |
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| 18:19.55 | boudiccas | jalalsfs: yes, whezy is frozen whats the problem? |
| 18:20.07 | boudiccas | wheezy |
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| 18:21.04 | shadow_fox | after installation i cant find ~/Library/Application\ Support/Sublime\ Text\ 2/Packages directory |
| 18:21.20 | shadow_fox | can someone highlight me how this thing is missing |
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| 18:24.38 | jalalsfs | boudiccas, I mean, if it is frozen that mean there won't be new release of the packages in it, just security and fix the bugs. |
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| 18:25.06 | somiaj | shadow_fox: what did you install and how? Debian packes (from debian) do not install stuff in $HOME (the program itself may put files there, but thigns aren't installed there) |
| 18:25.28 | boudiccas | jalalsfs: wrong! packages are being update daily as bugs are being squashed. i've been using it for over 2 months now wioth no problems |
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| 18:26.36 | somiaj | jalalsfs: the actual upstream version should not chance (and new features should not be added) during the freeze. There are exceptions to this though. |
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| 18:26.49 | shadow_fox | somiaj: i installed following this https://gist.github.com/2716568 |
| 18:26.57 | somiaj | jalalsfs: for example 3.2 will be the kernel you get, only chagnes to that kernel (bug/security fixes) are accepted. |
| 18:28.07 | boudiccas | jalalsfs: claws mail is 3.8.1 in wheezy, but a new vewriosn came out on the 14th, but it will be updated in backports once wheezy is stabilised |
| 18:28.16 | somiaj | shadow_fox: there is nothing in that script that will create the directory you are talking about. So yes it is obvious why the directory is not created |
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| 18:28.42 | shadow_fox | somiaj: ohh i installed sublime text 2, m on squeeze, and i followed the snippet in the above link |
| 18:28.49 | mtn | jalalsfs: if you want to stay on the rollercoaster you would leave it as testing. things will break most likely in the future |
| 18:29.11 | zykotick9 | shadow_fox: check in /opt/sublime-text2 for what you are looking for. this isn't a debian issue really... |
| 18:29.14 | somiaj | shadow_fox: as for why the program sublime is not creating that directory or erroring out, that is more a support question for sublime. What you are doing is valid (though unsupported in #debian since you are manually putting in 3-rd party software) |
| 18:29.16 | shadow_fox | yeah, thats what i thought but this seems to be the guide that says me to create a setting file under that directory , i am confused |
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| 18:29.59 | shadow_fox | zykotick9: i know this is not a debian issue , its sublimetext question rather |
| 18:30.00 | somiaj | shadow_fox: I would ask the people at sublime, or read more sublime doucmenation. You may get lucky that someone here has done this (but my guess is you won't) and this is really not a debian question in the long run. |
| 18:31.01 | shadow_fox | somiaj: i am just hoping that someone would have gone through this and might help me, still trying at sublimetext channel no response, waiting for someone to come forward |
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| 18:31.28 | dcherniv_ | anyone knows of a light gui email client? |
| 18:31.37 | somiaj | shadow_fox: so after you ran that what did you do next? did you run the sublime text program? Did you read the man page? did you try to manually create that directory in your home dir? Did you run it as your normal user or root? |
| 18:31.38 | boudiccas | claws mail |
| 18:31.53 | dcherniv_ | boudiccas, let me check it out |
| 18:32.19 | shadow_fox | somiaj: i tried to create manually but then i thought might as well search for this then didnt find , and here i am |
| 18:32.33 | somiaj | shadow_fox: basically you have the binaries coppied to a place on your system (you actually didn't need to tod that) and them put in /usr/local/bin for your $PATH. So seems as if you are having issues running the program. Reading the manpage is a good start |
| 18:32.59 | dcherniv_ | boudiccas, looks great thanks buddy |
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| 18:33.16 | boudiccas | dcherniv_: wrong, i'm female :) |
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| 18:34.00 | somiaj | females can't be buddies? haha |
| 18:34.02 | shadow_fox | somiaj: ok thanks. though. i am heading over to the docs and meanwhile someone replied at #sublimetext :) |
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| 18:34.37 | mtn | somiaj: buddettes? |
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| 18:35.41 | dcherniv_ | boudiccas, oh my bad. thank you |
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| 18:36.37 | somiaj | shadow_fox: asking questions in multiple channells is usually not suggested on irc. Sometimes it is best to just ask in the proper place and lurk for a while (as people do have jobs) (: |
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| 18:37.51 | shadow_fox | somiaj: i asked there only , but then thought might as well ask here may be someone would know about this , just a guessing nothing intentional though hope this was okay |
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| 18:38.56 | ScottG | So my debian machine seems to freeze up and I'm not sure why. It's frozen up under two circumstances now. The first was when I tried to extract a xz compressed file and now it just froze up while running rsync on a lot of files to an external HDD. Is there a way I can diagnose why this is happening? |
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| 18:39.24 | somiaj | ScottG: check the logs, see if you are getting errors from your harddrive or soemthing in the kernel |
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| 18:39.48 | ScottG | somiaj: What might be good logs to look into? |
| 18:39.53 | acu_ | can anyone tell me the size of this ? rsync -avzP rsync://datacache.g2.bx.psu.edu/indexes/hg19 ? |
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| 18:41.06 | somiaj | ScottG: /var/log/ -- start browsing, kern.log and messages are things from the kernel, place to start |
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| 18:44.20 | ScottG | somiaj: Looking in kern.log. Looks like a huge chunk of logs for a kernel stacktrace I think. Let me paste |
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| 18:45.21 | rgr | any ideas as to why debian wheezy isnt registering a brand new ssd I plug in via an external usb casing in order to rsync my system to it? |
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| 18:45.49 | rgr | dmesg shows nothing either. |
| 18:46.09 | abrotman | it's broken? |
| 18:46.12 | abrotman | does it show in POST? |
| 18:46.15 | ScottG | somiaj: http://privatepaste.com/6dc5c6f2b2 |
| 18:46.31 | abrotman | notes that a privatepaste isn't so private when pasted in a public channel :) |
| 18:46.43 | rgr | THats the thing. I thought it was and exchanged it. I'll try it on someone elses machine with Windows later then. |
| 18:46.53 | abrotman | the OS doesn't matter if POST doesn't see it |
| 18:46.54 | ScottG | somiaj: This morning (nov 23) around 9:10 i think is when it died? |
| 18:47.49 | ScottG | somiaj: Although maybe not. I don't understand why there are those 6 lines or so at 10:41 |
| 18:48.27 | acu_ | rgr: I had similar things happen before, do not remember exactly the problem, however, check if you take the SSD out the case and hook it to a SATA going into Motherboard (and of course add power supply) if it is seen,n |
| 18:49.14 | ScottG | somiaj: Speaking of those errors, though. I should run a fsck on that external HDD...doing that now. |
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| 18:52.25 | kaste | hello, i was just trying to mount an sshfs volume but i get a permission error for the fuse device fuse: failed to open /dev/fuse: Operation not permitted |
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| 18:53.57 | ScottG | somiaj: I'm starting to think all those errors are unrelated. I think I started the rsync thing around 10:41. I honestly don't remember the time exactly but I mounted that external fs right before I did it and I think those messages at 10:41 are a result of that mount. |
| 18:53.59 | kaste | i am part of the fuse group the fuse group has rw rights on the device and i have tried chmod g+s |
| 18:54.07 | kaste | what else could it be |
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| 18:54.54 | ScottG | somiaj: So in other words there's nothing logged about the problem... |
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| 18:57.44 | jparkton | I need to run gmake on some files but I get an error command not found, and apt-get doesnt have gmake? Is it part of distutils, or some other package |
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| 19:00.01 | vampi-the-frog | hi guys. The totem Youtube plugin is giving me this error: http://i.imgur.com/FXOk3.jpg |
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| 19:01.36 | zykotick9 | vampi-the-frog: i don't believe teh totem youtube plugin has worked in a long time. YMMV? good luck. |
| 19:01.49 | vampi-the-frog | :< |
| 19:01.59 | vampi-the-frog | I'd really like to view youtube videos inside a player instead of the browser |
| 19:02.19 | mschr | <jparkton> try apt-get install buildessentials |
| 19:02.20 | zykotick9 | vampi-the-frog: i know it's possible with mplayer somehow... |
| 19:02.33 | dcherniv_ | jparkton, gmake=make |
| 19:02.38 | vampi-the-frog | it works in gnome 3 btw (debian wheezy), but at lowest possible quality |
| 19:02.47 | jparkton | oh ok |
| 19:03.02 | jparkton | so just use make instead of gmake and im ok? |
| 19:03.12 | vampi-the-frog | thanks, I'll try mplayer |
| 19:03.14 | jparkton | trying to install skype |
| 19:03.17 | jparkton | its being a pain |
| 19:03.28 | dcherniv_ | jparkton, should be, skype requires you to build stuff? |
| 19:03.38 | dcherniv_ | jparkton, what are you running gmake on? |
| 19:04.30 | zykotick9 | vampi-the-frog: you might want to test if this still works http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/1405/stream-youtube-url-directly-to-mplayer. |
| 19:05.04 | jparkton | oh wait |
| 19:05.12 | jparkton | sheesh too many things going at once |
| 19:05.21 | jparkton | im installing a BBS |
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| 19:05.29 | jparkton | and need to make the makefiles |
| 19:05.46 | jparkton | http://wiki.synchro.net/install:nix |
| 19:06.01 | abrotman | a bbs? |
| 19:06.28 | vampi-the-frog | zykotick9: naw, mplayer isn't even working in debian squeeze :< |
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| 19:06.38 | jparkton | abrotman: yeah |
| 19:06.43 | jparkton | nerdy I know |
| 19:06.43 | vampi-the-frog | $ mplayer |
| 19:06.43 | vampi-the-frog | mplayer: relocation error: mplayer: symbol codec_wav_tags, version LIBAVFORMAT_52 not defined in file libavformat.so.52 with link time reference |
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| 19:07.13 | abrotman | i wouldn't call it nerdy ... |
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| 19:07.26 | mschr | jparkton is there an Makefile.am or doesnt it have the .am extension? |
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| 19:07.34 | dcherniv_ | jparkton, yea make would do |
| 19:07.49 | Seryth | I've found a config file with colours I like for urxvt, where should I put it? .Xdefaults, or .Xresources? And once it's there, how do I start using it? Do i have to do something with xrdb? |
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| 19:07.59 | buu | Am I right in my understanding that debian 6.0.6 stable is named "squeeze" and changing my apt sources to 'testing' would upgrade me to wheezey? |
| 19:08.29 | abrotman | buu: yes |
| 19:08.32 | dcherniv_ | buu, changing it to wheezy will upgrade you to wheezy, changing to testing would upgrade you to a rolling release |
| 19:08.38 | buu | oh |
| 19:08.41 | abrotman | buu: but you probably want to change the sources to point at wheezy |
| 19:08.49 | buu | This is literally the most complicated system in the world. |
| 19:08.51 | zykotick9 | see "/msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy" for details |
| 19:08.57 | abrotman | buu: it's easy |
| 19:08.57 | Seryth | buu, it's rather simple |
| 19:09.08 | dcherniv_ | buu, ie once wheezy released testing will become the next debian |
| 19:09.10 | buu | Can I get security updates for wheezey? |
| 19:09.13 | abrotman | not yet |
| 19:09.18 | dcherniv_ | buu, oh my.... no |
| 19:09.26 | abrotman | the repo is there, but nothing really goes in there yet |
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| 19:09.37 | Seryth | buu, I'd never used Debian before last week, only Ubuntu. I installed Squeeze, then updated to Wheezy very quickly. It was the easiest distro upgrade I've ever done... |
| 19:09.49 | buu | Seryth: I was complaining about the names, not the apt-get part. |
| 19:10.04 | jparkton | dcherniv_: ok make did better but I get this error ->configure: error: your don't have NSPR installed or your version is too old |
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| 19:10.08 | abrotman | dpkg: tell buu about releases |
| 19:10.13 | Seryth | buu, squeeze = stable, wheezy = testing, sid = unstable |
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| 19:10.20 | dcherniv_ | jparkton, you need libnspr is my guess |
| 19:10.35 | plytheman | I'm trying to install CrunchBang from a Debian net install (http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/netinstall) and I added the Crunchbang repo to my source list but 'apt-get update' is giving a 404 on Packages.gz even tho I know it's there. Any ideas? |
| 19:10.51 | abrotman | plytheman: crunchbang is not supported here |
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| 19:11.08 | dcherniv_ | buu, in a couple of years squeeze = old stable wheezy = stable, sid=testing, whatever=unstable |
| 19:11.10 | kaste | ah I have an idea: Is it possible to have fuse running under openvz? |
| 19:11.11 | mschr | jparkton libnspr4-dev |
| 19:11.22 | plytheman | abrotman: yeah, #crunchbang isn't giving a lot of help and figured it was a general enough question with apt-get anyway |
| 19:11.37 | somiaj | Seryth: you can use either (it might depend on how you load X as to if any is loaded by default) |
| 19:11.40 | abrotman | plytheman: ask them, this channel supports Debian .. you could maybe try ##linux |
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| 19:11.51 | plytheman | abrotman: will do, thanks |
| 19:11.54 | somiaj | Seryth: but then xrdb -load $HOME/.Xdefaults (that is what I use in my wm startup scripts) |
| 19:12.06 | Seryth | somiaj, Okay, thankyou! |
| 19:12.18 | jparkton | mschr: hey that worked |
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| 19:12.27 | jparkton | very nice |
| 19:12.37 | somiaj | plytheman: installing crunchbang over a stable debian base sounds painful (there is no guarntee the upgrading of the packages won't hit some sort of snag) |
| 19:12.56 | abrotman | and still not supported here .. |
| 19:13.37 | somiaj | Seryth: note man xrdb (you may want the -merge option in some cases) |
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| 19:13.59 | Seryth | somiaj, ah, what does merge do? |
| 19:14.07 | Seryth | actually, scratch taht I'll read the an page :0 |
| 19:14.11 | Seryth | the man page :)* |
| 19:14.16 | somiaj | Seryth: read teh man page, but it is load a fresh set of defaults or merge them with the current set. |
| 19:14.31 | Seryth | Ah, load a fresh set is what I want |
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| 19:17.24 | Seryth | somiaj, I saved the file as .Xdefaults, then ran xrdb -load $HOME/.Xdefaults, and it appears to have messed up my resolution or something... |
| 19:18.02 | somiaj | Seryth: I did suggest merging if you had defaults set elsewhere....what resolution did it mess up? |
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| 19:18.33 | Seryth | somiaj, I'm not sure, but my fonts look utterly ridiculous...they look all pixalated and they're hard to read, etc. |
| 19:18.57 | Seryth | somiaj, I didn't know I *had* other defaults >.< |
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| 19:19.50 | gecko900 | ciao |
| 19:19.56 | gecko900 | !list |
| 19:19.56 | dpkg | gecko900: Debian è un sistema operativo composto di software libero non quella gratis. Vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per sapere di più. |
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| 19:22.06 | somiaj | Seryth: yea I rember it took me a bit of finess to get working. Restart X -- try again, make sure you aren't modifing defaults witch effect the font. |
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| 19:22.43 | Seryth | somiaj, okay. I'll be back in a moment - however, even after doing the xrdb -load, the terminal still looks identical... |
| 19:22.48 | Seryth | I'll remove the line about the fonts though. |
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| 19:23.12 | somiaj | Seryth: did you run a new terminal? |
| 19:23.19 | Seryth | somiaj, yes |
| 19:23.21 | somiaj | Seryth: some of those things are set at launch and won't effect running terminals |
| 19:23.26 | somiaj | well play around with the defaults some more then |
| 19:23.49 | Seryth | somiaj, it's supposed to look like this: http://ompldr.org/vNjBnag |
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| 19:23.57 | Seryth | I'm still stuck with the white and black default |
| 19:24.15 | somiaj | what did you use to launch your terminal? |
| 19:24.30 | somiaj | was it a menu entry (they could be using -fg -bg arguments in who they launch from the menu overriding the defaults) |
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| 19:24.36 | somiaj | try to launch a new terminal from teh terminal |
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| 19:24.43 | Seryth | x-www-terminal, from openbox menu |
| 19:24.44 | Seryth | okay |
| 19:24.50 | Seryth | ah! |
| 19:24.53 | Seryth | You're right |
| 19:24.55 | Seryth | weird. |
| 19:25.07 | Seryth | (Not that you're right, but the situation!) |
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| 19:25.57 | somiaj | it is common for menus to do that to ensure the terminals match the theme |
| 19:25.57 | Seryth | I removed the font lines and ran the xrdb -load command, fonts are back to normal. |
| 19:26.08 | somiaj | but it overrides the defaults |
| 19:26.35 | Seryth | right, so I guess I should edit the menu just to launch urxvt |
| 19:27.10 | buu | Ok, so I'm installing xen on the debian. I've added the br0 line for bridging networks. Do I need to 'activate' that bridge and if so, how? |
| 19:27.40 | somiaj | Seryth: correct |
| 19:27.50 | capitaninsaneoh | How to save Iptables for reboot? Do I do iptables-persistent? |
| 19:28.00 | somiaj | capitaninsaneoh: the debian wiki has some suggestions for that |
| 19:28.06 | Seryth | somiaj, So say I do want a different font (I do), where would I have to store the font file to allow .Xdefaults to see it? |
| 19:28.09 | buu | oh god |
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| 19:28.33 | somiaj | Seryth: man your terminal, you can set the font in there, but it has to be a monospace font |
| 19:28.51 | somiaj | Seryth: and depending on the terminal might have to be an old style (not new fontconfig type font) |
| 19:29.02 | Seryth | Right, I want to use the "terminus" font, so I presume that must be a monospace font! |
| 19:29.07 | buu | abrotman: Help! |
| 19:29.17 | abrotman | hi |
| 19:29.20 | somiaj | Seryth: yea it could be you picked a non monospace font so things didn't line up right |
| 19:29.26 | buu | abrotman: I was flailing around like an idiot and it said I was removing my current kernel |
| 19:29.28 | Seryth | Gotcha |
| 19:29.36 | abrotman | buu: brctl docs aren't awful .. |
| 19:29.41 | buu | abrotman: I don't have local access to the machine so how can I ensure that it still has a kernel and will reboot properly? |
| 19:29.46 | abrotman | !enter |
| 19:29.46 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 19:29.47 | somiaj | Seryth: I personally use xterm and was able to right click xterm look though the font options in its menu and then picked one I liked |
| 19:29.54 | abrotman | buu: do oytu have the kernel metapackage installed? |
| 19:30.04 | Seryth | somiaj, understood |
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| 19:30.09 | capitaninsaneoh | somiaj, what do most people do in that case |
| 19:30.36 | buu | abrotman: It doesn't look like it, dpkg -l | grep kernel; just gives me some libdrm lines |
| 19:30.36 | somiaj | capitaninsaneoh: I would look up the debian wiki and use the iptable commands to save then restore on bootup |
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| 19:31.08 | somiaj | capitaninsaneoh: http://wiki.debian.org/iptables -- has suggestions that I like |
| 19:31.13 | abrotman | buu: what's uname -r ? |
| 19:31.22 | buu | 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 19:31.33 | abrotman | so make sure linux-image-amd64 is installed |
| 19:31.35 | somiaj | capitaninsaneoh: use iptables-save, iptables-restore, and run the iptables-save from a pre-up script on your network |
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| 19:32.25 | buu | abrotman: Ok, I changed to testing so it wants to install 3.2 |
| 19:32.58 | buu | Ok, grub finds the kernels. How nice. |
| 19:33.00 | abrotman | buu: well, sure .. but you hsould really point at wheezy, not testing |
| 19:33.12 | buu | abrotman: I tried that but my mirrors were giving me 404s for wheezy |
| 19:33.28 | capitaninsaneoh | somiaj, Thankx |
| 19:33.40 | abrotman | buu: they sure shouldn't .. if they do that, you need a different mirror |
| 19:33.47 | abrotman | make sure you spell wheezy correctly |
| 19:33.59 | capitaninsaneoh | wish there was a dpkg-reconfigure for iptables |
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| 19:34.25 | somiaj | capitaninsaneoh: what would it do? How could you easily put all the multiple possible firewall options in a nice menu to configure? |
| 19:34.33 | buu | abrotman: That helps, thanks. |
| 19:34.37 | zxcvbn | is ACL system bad? why it is not enabled in Debian by default? |
| 19:35.03 | abrotman | zxcvbn: not generally needed if you understand unix permissions |
| 19:35.26 | capitaninsaneoh | somiaj, I'm just saying usually we create rules for reason and they should be applied as we create them persistently |
| 19:35.32 | capitaninsaneoh | Thanks |
| 19:35.36 | zxcvbn | uhm. okay. thanks |
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| 19:35.46 | somiaj | capitaninsaneoh: there needs to be a safty net (such as rebooting to remove them if you create a bad rule) |
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| 19:36.06 | somiaj | Carnophage: and in general most people do not need a firewall on debian, so in the case you do it is assumend you know enough to configure presistance |
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| 19:37.21 | somiaj | Carnophage: sorry bad tab completion |
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| 19:40.22 | jparkton | when using /etc/init.d/sbbs start I get an error Unsupported init type |
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| 19:41.17 | buu | Anyone happen to know how I can tell if I've rebooted into a xen dom0 system? |
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| 19:51.44 | buu | So.. anyone want to spend a few minutes explaining how I make xen bridges? |
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| 19:54.06 | zxcvbn | I have filesharing server based on debian with ext4 fs. Some samba dir is mounted to Windows 2008 network disk (X:). When i'm trying to create a rich folder structure (many sub-sub-sub-folders) and pathname becomes very long, it results in an error. Where is my bottleneck? Does ext4 have any limitations or Windows doesnt support too long pathnames even on network drive? |
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| 19:54.59 | jhutchins_wk | zxcvbn: My suspicion would be Windows. |
| 19:55.22 | zxcvbn | thanks for direction :) |
| 19:55.35 | jhutchins_wk | zxcvbn: Path- and pathname- length are pretty liberal in most Linux filesystems. |
| 19:55.56 | jhutchins_wk | zxcvbn: I _am_ totally guessing, but that would be my first suspicion. |
| 19:55.57 | buu | http://scsys.co.uk:8002/215000 |
| 19:56.07 | buu | That's what I get trying to bring up my br0 interface? |
| 19:57.02 | zxcvbn | jhutchins_wk: I dont have any skill in such things so your opinion is very important for me :) |
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| 19:57.16 | jhutchins_wk | buu: I've seen SIOCADDRT before - it can't add the route. |
| 19:57.27 | buu | jhutchins_wk: hrm |
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| 19:58.11 | jhutchins_wk | buu: iirc if you stop/start networking it will work. |
| 19:58.33 | buu | uh |
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| 19:58.48 | buu | jhutchins_wk: I just ran networking stop; when I was ssh'd into it |
| 19:58.50 | buu | -_- |
| 19:58.54 | jhutchins_wk | buu: At the very least, if you have it permanently configured it should come up if you reboot. |
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| 19:59.06 | jhutchins_wk | buu: No oob or drac access? |
| 19:59.36 | jhutchins_wk | buu: You can usually _restart_ networking over ssh as long as you don't change the address you're connected to. |
| 19:59.48 | buu | jhutchins_wk: Yeah, *restart* would probably have gone considerably better |
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| 20:00.35 | jhutchins_wk | Anybody know how to import a playlist in exaile? |
| 20:01.18 | jhutchins_wk | buu: Do you work with multiple servers? |
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| 20:06.47 | RichardRaseley | I am running Wheezy on a system with 3 monitors hooked to a GTX 690 (2 on DVI-D and 1 on Mini-DisplayPort |
| 20:06.50 | RichardRaseley | ) |
| 20:07.34 | RichardRaseley | When coming back to the computer after the monitors have gone into power saving mode, the two dvi-d monitors come back on find (where I am prompted to enter my password to unlock) but the displayport monitor is just bright blue. |
| 20:08.21 | RichardRaseley | Upon unlocking the system everything goes back to normal - however it is a little odd and something I would like any suggestions towards fixking. |
| 20:08.26 | RichardRaseley | fixing* |
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| 20:20.07 | brandonj_2 | Hi all. I've just moved my debian install onto lvm. I'm currently sitting in a chroot trying to update grub to work in the new environment. whenever I try to run grub-install I get http://paste.debian.net/211854/ |
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| 20:21.13 | Sean-Der | What would people recommend for a cheap Linux friendly VPS? I am just using it a webhost (need root as I want to use awful, my website is in scheme) and a mail server? |
| 20:21.38 | brandonj_2 | grub-probe is barfing for some reason, and I don't know why: http://paste.debian.net/211855/ |
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| 20:24.02 | buu | Sean-Der: Uh, linode, aws |
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| 20:24.31 | buu | jhutchins_wk: Heh, had to get the admins to reboot it |
| 20:26.08 | Sean-Der | buu: I was thinking about linode, isn't aws more targeted at companies? |
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| 20:26.38 | buu | Sean-Der: Sure, but it's pretty cheap. |
| 20:26.50 | buu | They give you a free one for a year, for example. |
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| 20:27.08 | lovinda | is ubuntu more better than debian? |
| 20:27.38 | Sean-Der | lovinda: depends, what things do you value in a distro? |
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| 20:27.57 | lovinda | Sean-Der: lots of useless software |
| 20:28.06 | lovinda | Sean-Der: a horrid gui |
| 20:28.12 | lovinda | Sean-Der: the usual stuff |
| 20:28.14 | jparkton | anyone here worked with telnet BBS before? |
| 20:28.48 | Sean-Der | Haha.... well Ubuntu bundles non-free software needlessly so thats a big no no |
| 20:29.02 | Sean-Der | They also disrespect the users (Amazon fiasco) |
| 20:29.21 | lovinda | Sounds just for me! |
| 20:29.33 | Sean-Der | Debian has a huge repo, and you can build from scratch (netinstall) |
| 20:30.06 | lovinda | will debian get me all the girls? |
| 20:30.17 | Sean-Der | It doesn't work for me :D but it may work for you |
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| 20:30.30 | lovinda | Ild like to install it on my macbook pro and say im a haker |
| 20:30.53 | lovinda | at Starbucks |
| 20:31.21 | Sean-Der | Sorry Starbucks is so 2009 :/ |
| 20:31.26 | Sean-Der | There is no hope for you |
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| 20:31.38 | lovinda | what joint should i hit? |
| 20:32.41 | Sean-Der | Local free trade coffee house... duh |
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| 20:41.05 | beaky | hello |
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| 20:46.44 | beaky | Debian seems to be an interesting distro; how do I get started with debian? |
| 20:47.56 | Sean-Der | beaky: Do a netinstall build from the ground up. Run Sid |
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| 20:48.04 | Sean-Der | Read the docs |
| 20:48.25 | beaky | ah |
| 20:48.55 | beaky | alright thanks time to delete that gentoo image and fire up a debian bootdisk :D |
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| 20:50.17 | Sean-Der | Have fun! |
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| 20:52.29 | rwp | beaky, More seriously: http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst |
| 20:53.08 | rwp | The "Small CD" images are the best. Small to download. Everything else loads from the net as needed. |
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| 20:53.44 | un214 | I usually recommend cd1 burned out as it doubles as quite a functional recovery cd |
| 20:53.46 | rwp | Also all of the recent images can be copied directly to a bootable USB storage and booted without ever needing to burn a CD image. |
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| 20:53.57 | un214 | sometimes you need the small cd because it has a few network drivers cd1 doesn't |
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| 20:54.13 | rwp | un214, The network install cd image also can be used for rescue. |
| 20:54.25 | un214 | rwp: only if your internet is up |
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| 20:54.35 | jhutchins_wk | Man, there are still kde3.5 tools that I can't find alternatives to. |
| 20:54.50 | abrotman | un214: not true |
| 20:54.54 | rwp | Well... yes, but considering that the image needs to be downloaded from the internet first... |
| 20:55.00 | un214 | abrotman: I tried it |
| 20:55.10 | jhutchins_wk | kuickshow makes quick photo rebalancing so much easier than gimp. |
| 20:55.43 | abrotman | there are other smaller tools |
| 20:55.45 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions kuickshow |
| 20:55.47 | judd | Package: kuickshow on i386 -- lenny: 4:3.5.9-3+lenny3; lenny-security: 4:3.5.9-3+lenny3 |
| 20:55.57 | jhutchins_wk | abrotman: Open to suggestions. |
| 20:56.24 | jhutchins_wk | browse+fix+slideshow? |
| 20:56.31 | rwp | I feel certain that I have booted a non-networked machine using the netinst cd image and used it for rescue. But my memory is vague. |
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| 21:07.46 | rwp | In Sid since 2012-11-19 libnetcf1 wants to remove the kvm tools. Does anyone have any idea why? I am at a loss to see the conflict. |
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| 21:11.27 | beaky | I've loaded up the netinstall; how do I make it install from the debian-unstable repositories? |
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| 21:12.53 | rwp | beaky, Install either Stable or Testing and then dist-upgrade to Unstable if you want Unstable. |
| 21:13.11 | rwp | At this moment I would recommend installing Testing. It is very close to release and works for me. |
| 21:13.18 | rwp | Then dist-upgrade to Unstable. |
| 21:13.35 | rwp | Which did you download? Stable or Testing? |
| 21:13.49 | beaky | right |
| 21:13.53 | rwp | Doesn't really matter though. Just do it. Then edit sources.list for your desired target and upgrade. |
| 21:14.09 | rwp | "right" doesn't answer an *or* question. :-) |
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| 21:14.27 | beaky | alright :D |
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| 21:15.33 | rwp | But I strongly recommend either Stable or Testing for the newbie. Unstable is, well, unstable. The new person doesn't yet have enough experience to make sanity from the chaos. Better to avoid the chaos and use Stable or Testing. |
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| 21:15.42 | beaky | right |
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| 21:16.18 | rwp | Such as my question above about why an upgrade today in Unstable Sid wants to remove the KVM tools. |
| 21:16.22 | rwp | Found it just a moment ago. |
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| 21:16.43 | gnarface | i need help troubleshooting SSL keys for openLDAP on debian squeeze. none of the clients are accepting my server certificates and i don't know why. the old ones (now expired) worked fine |
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| 21:16.53 | rwp | libnetcf1 conflicts with libvirt0 (<= 0.10.1-2~) for some reason. |
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| 21:17.21 | rwp | gnarface, What have you tried so far? |
| 21:17.36 | beaky | yeah would freak me out if I ran an unstable version and a core utility like egrep stopped working :D |
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| 21:17.39 | rwp | Although unfortunately I don't know anything about LDAP. |
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| 21:17.53 | rwp | If it were Apache SSL certs then I would have more information. |
| 21:18.01 | gnarface | rwp: well i've tried creating new keys from the same certificate authorty i created the old ones with. i'm guessing i must be forgetting some critical flag... |
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| 21:18.39 | rwp | beaky, Last week coreutils was broken in unstable. A few weeks ago networking was broken (ifupdown) in unstable. Stick with Testing unless you want to file bugs against the daily churn. |
| 21:19.28 | beaky | ^^ |
| 21:19.42 | rwp | gnarface, Without information it is hard to guess. I always look through /var/log/syslog looking for clues. Hopefully it is simply a permission problem for you. |
| 21:19.45 | beaky | so unstable is more up-to-date than archlinux? |
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| 21:19.54 | lizardbrain | https://gist.github.com/bc382068197b72941df0 what does it mean when Local time is wrong and Universal time is right? |
| 21:20.24 | gnarface | anyone here happen to know what slapd is picky about when creating ssl keys for TLS? |
| 21:20.28 | rwp | beaky, And today Stable is Squeeze and Testing is Wheezy. We always put the names "squeeze" and "wheezy" in the sources.list file by name. |
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| 21:20.42 | beaky | ah |
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| 21:21.14 | rwp | Otherwise when Testing releases to be Stable here in a few weeks it can surprise people with unexpected changes. Better to make the change when you want to make the change and be an active participant in the upgrade. |
| 21:21.21 | mtn | beaky: nope, not as upto date as arch |
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| 21:25.41 | rwp | gnarface, Can you use 'openssl s_client -connect www.example.com:443' to dump cert information? Perhaps compare with the previous? Just brainstorming for you. |
| 21:26.05 | rwp | Of course use your ldap port instead of https 443. |
| 21:26.14 | gnarface | right... |
| 21:26.15 | gnarface | lemme try that |
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| 21:27.29 | rwp | beaky, Don't know anything about arch linux but they have a different set of maintainers and so progress will occur at different rates in different parts and will have a different set of bugs in each. |
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| 21:29.17 | rwp | lizardbrain, I am unfamiliar with timedatectl command. |
| 21:29.22 | rwp | What does date -R say? |
| 21:29.32 | rwp | Do you have TZ variable set in environment? |
| 21:29.36 | lizardbrain | Fri, 23 Nov 2012 05:29:39 -0800 |
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| 21:29.46 | lizardbrain | TZ is correct |
| 21:29.54 | lizardbrain | time is 4 hours off |
| 21:30.16 | rwp | lizardbrain, /etc/localtime is a file copy of a time zone file in /usr/share/zoneinfo/* that matches your timezone. |
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| 21:30.54 | rwp | Depending upon your Debian version /etc/default/rcS has in the past contained the UTC clock setting. |
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| 21:31.12 | rwp | What does 'date -u' say? Correct? |
| 21:31.15 | rwp | For UTC? |
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| 21:31.38 | lizardbrain | date -u is the correct time |
| 21:31.49 | rwp | All I can think of is that if the clock is correctly set to UTC then the local time, which is controlled by timezone maps, _must_ be at the root of the problem. |
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| 21:32.51 | rwp | lizardbrain, Try: apt-cache policy tzdata |
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| 21:33.19 | rwp | Latest in Sid is 2012i-1. Latest in Squeeze is 2012g-0squeeze1. |
| 21:33.46 | rwp | And I guess it is possible the zone data is corrupted. Might want to reinstall just that data package. |
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| 21:34.51 | rwp | Might want to 'zdump -v US/Mountain | grep 2012' (with your timezone specified) and check that the data looks reasonable for your timezone. |
| 21:35.09 | rwp | will see you folks later. Gotta run! |
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| 21:38.16 | jparkton | I need to use dosbox in ssh is it possible? |
| 21:38.27 | jparkton | I get the error Exit to error: Can't init SDL No available video device |
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| 21:52.33 | JohnnyL | what is a nice free desktop that is very small, flexible and doesn't use nepomuk or the like? i just uninstalled libneomuk or whatever and my kde has been deleted when I apt-get removed it. |
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| 21:53.16 | engla | JohnnyL: maybe you like xfce |
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| 21:54.47 | JohnnyL | engla: ok. :) |
| 21:56.09 | JohnnyL | engla: is it safe? |
| 21:56.27 | JohnnyL | Feature filled with security would be nice. |
| 21:56.30 | wols_ | JohnnyL: dpkg -l |grep kdebase if that's still installed it's not been removed |
| 21:56.32 | engla | safe? |
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| 21:56.36 | JohnnyL | yeah |
| 21:56.46 | JohnnyL | i noticed nepomuk was saving everything that i was doing. |
| 21:56.47 | wols_ | JohnnyL: most likely you just had some virtual package without content removed |
| 21:57.07 | engla | what kind of security are you talking about? |
| 21:57.20 | engla | there is no nepomuk integration in xfce I think |
| 21:57.22 | JohnnyL | ok kde bas runtime and plase workspace is still there. |
| 21:57.35 | JohnnyL | but if I go to SystemSettings, nothing happens. |
| 21:58.12 | JohnnyL | wols_: uh no, my system settings were saved to soprano program. |
| 21:58.30 | JohnnyL | engla: non monitoring by software maker folks. |
| 21:58.39 | wols_ | JohnnyL: and did I dispute that? I just disuputed that kde was uninstalled |
| 21:58.49 | engla | you should look closely at every application then :-) |
| 21:59.14 | engla | chat logs saved, recent documents, recent search strings in firefox etc |
| 21:59.23 | JohnnyL | kde without the ability to configure itself |
| 21:59.25 | JohnnyL | ? |
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| 22:00.16 | wols_ | < wols_> JohnnyL: dpkg -l |grep kdebase |
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| 22:00.49 | yakko | hey guys, I've been trying Debian on VM for a month now, so much better than Ubuntu most recent versions... I want to install it as the main OS on my machine now. Can I do anything during the instalation so it copies the cd into my HD and stop asking me to insert it? |
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| 22:01.20 | JohnnyL | right later. |
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| 22:01.48 | JohnnyL | and by the way kde shouldn't depend on nepomuk. |
| 22:02.25 | engla | JohnnyL: just installing the library does no damage if you just disable it |
| 22:02.27 | JohnnyL | wols_: what pakacges should I have based on that query? |
| 22:02.40 | wols_ | JohnnyL: seems you have a misconception what kde is. the main dependency to nepomuk seems to be kmail |
| 22:02.48 | wols_ | JohnnyL: what query? |
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| 22:03.07 | wols_ | yakko: I don't understand your question. if you install debian on hdd it doesn't ever ask for a CD |
| 22:03.38 | engla | the sources.list might include the cd |
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| 22:03.58 | wols_ | engla: thanks. good catch |
| 22:04.03 | wols_ | !tell yakko about sources.list |
| 22:04.17 | yakko | wols_: please don't troll me |
| 22:04.35 | wols_ | I am not trolling you |
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| 22:04.49 | wols_ | but if you don't want help, suit yourself |
| 22:04.53 | yakko | wols_: I installed it from CD and added Ubuntu sources, but today I had to install some lib and it asked for CD |
| 22:05.07 | wols_ | no one will help you when you use ubuntu sources on debian |
| 22:05.23 | engla | you've created frankendebian :-) |
| 22:05.30 | wols_ | and you will have to reinstall in a month or two, if you mix freely and often. good luck |
| 22:05.47 | yakko | wols_: I'm just asking if there's something in the instalation I can do so it won't ask me to insert the CD every now and then |
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| 22:06.10 | yakko | engla: yeah, it's alive |
| 22:06.13 | wols_ | yakko: dpkg told you were to look |
| 22:06.17 | wols_ | and for the rest: |
| 22:06.20 | wols_ | !frankendebian |
| 22:06.21 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
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| 22:07.17 | yakko | dpkg: some common packages simply could not be found, where can I get an extended source list? |
| 22:07.18 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, yakko |
| 22:07.41 | yakko | wols_: ^1 |
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| 22:08.04 | engla | if dpkg asks for the cd, remove the cd from sources.list and apt-get update |
| 22:08.18 | engla | also fix your sources to use debian repositories.. if it's not too late |
| 22:08.20 | simplew | how can i know to what package a certain script/triggers belong? |
| 22:08.49 | wols_ | simplew: in what context? do you want to know in which package a certain file is? |
| 22:09.03 | simplew | wols_: no |
| 22:09.18 | simplew | wols_: i want to know what package runs a certain script/trigger |
| 22:09.31 | wols_ | what kind of script? what file? |
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| 22:09.54 | simplew | wols_: an update-alterative |
| 22:10.22 | simplew | wols_: but i dont understand how can that be relevant to know which script is |
| 22:10.36 | simplew | or what kind of script |
| 22:10.45 | beaky | frankendebian, haha |
| 22:10.51 | wols_ | cause there is no standardised way to see which file was made by which program. how could there be? |
| 22:11.02 | wols_ | this is why I asked which file exactly. if you don't want to answer, fine |
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| 22:11.05 | simplew | wols_: in rpm there is |
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| 22:11.38 | simplew | wols_: to see for example the scripts/triggers of a package i run: rpm -q --scripts foo.rpm |
| 22:11.39 | wols_ | then go and ask rpm users about a file you won't name |
| 22:11.55 | simplew | wols_: but in debian theres no equivalent, thats why im asking |
| 22:11.56 | wols_ | all scripts are run by debconf |
| 22:12.21 | wols_ | inside .deb packages that is. and they all reside in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 22:12.57 | simplew | wols_: i see severall scripts in /var/log/alternatives.log and i need to know whats the package that runs a certain script |
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| 22:13.47 | wols_ | update-alternatives writes this file. |
| 22:14.10 | simplew | wols_: simpler, how can i list the scripts of a package? |
| 22:14.29 | wols_ | you can't. and there are always only 4 scripts, the same ones |
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| 22:15.00 | wols_ | have you looked into /var/lib/dpkg/info/ ? |
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| 22:15.23 | simplew | wols_: when i change background it always afects lightdm, since it will get the same background, so how cna i know what script is that and to which package belongs |
| 22:15.57 | wols_ | that you have to check in the program that does the changing |
| 22:16.16 | wols_ | and to find out to what package an installed file belongs is dpkg -S <path> |
| 22:17.11 | simplew | wols_: dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /etc/alternatives/desktop-background.xml |
| 22:17.27 | wols_ | that's a generated file. not part of a package. |
| 22:17.36 | beaky | I've installed debian :D what should I do as soon as I boot? |
| 22:18.02 | simplew | wols_: generated from where? |
| 22:18.04 | wols_ | and the most likely reason lightdm and your desktop backroung both change is both look at this file to see what they should display as background |
| 22:18.19 | wols_ | simplew: usually debconf. |
| 22:18.30 | wols_ | beaky: enjoy it |
| 22:18.34 | simplew | debconf? |
| 22:19.06 | wols_ | yes debconf manages the config files and setting up of .deb files. and for the third time: those scripts which do it are in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 22:19.18 | wols_ | !debconf |
| 22:19.18 | dpkg | [debconf] Debian's configuration management system for packages, giving a single interface for asking and storing configuration-related settings. http://wiki.debian.org/debconf http://www.fifi.org/doc/debconf-doc/tutorial.html . Not to be confused with the yearly Debian Conference (DebConf): http://wiki.debian.org/DebConf https://www.debconf.org/ |
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| 22:20.43 | simplew | wols_: im looking at it |
| 22:20.55 | beaky | anyone know the name of the default font used in the linux console in debian? |
| 22:21.50 | simplew | wols_: do you know how can i avoid that lightdm background gets the same image the one set by user ? |
| 22:22.17 | wols_ | set a different config file/setting for lightdm I'd say |
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| 22:23.09 | simplew | wols_: how? |
| 22:25.09 | wols_ | with an editor? |
| 22:25.35 | wols_ | I don't know what config file it uses. by policy, all systemwide configurations are in /etc. and the manpage should at least mention it |
| 22:26.14 | HelenB_ | Okies I am requiring some help on compiling an apache mod. |
| 22:26.20 | HelenB_ | Just one min while I find the error. |
| 22:26.41 | HelenB_ | mod_proxy_html.c:55:31: fatal error: libxml/HTMLparser.h: No such file or directory |
| 22:27.52 | wols_ | HelenB_: you can look at packages.debian.org. and it spits out this when looking for the file: |
| 22:27.55 | wols_ | http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libxml%2FHTMLparser.h&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any |
| 22:28.04 | wols_ | so it looks like libxml2-dev it is |
| 22:28.25 | gnarface | rwp: well whatever was wrong with my command, the CA.pl does them correctly |
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| 22:30.06 | HelenB_ | wols_: When I attempt to install it it gives me "FATAL -> Failed to fork. |
| 22:30.08 | HelenB_ | " |
| 22:30.09 | HelenB_ | :( |
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| 22:30.38 | wols_ | pastebin the full apt-get install output please |
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| 22:36.17 | beaky | I love x windows |
| 22:36.38 | dvs | X windows? |
| 22:36.46 | HelenB_ | dvs: X |
| 22:36.55 | HelenB_ | wols_: http://pastebin.com/xhCzd194 |
| 22:37.07 | dvs | X Window System! |
| 22:37.38 | HelenB_ | dvs: Yes :3 |
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| 22:50.41 | HelenB_ | wols_: http://pastebin.com/xhCzd194 |
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| 23:02.44 | kamals | Hii |
| 23:03.09 | dvs | Hellooo |
| 23:03.50 | kamals | How are you |
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| 23:04.05 | dvs | ... |
| 23:04.10 | kamals | Hiiii |
| 23:04.19 | kamals | You male or female |
| 23:04.50 | dvs | both |
| 23:04.59 | kamals | Hhhhh nice |
| 23:05.02 | sbrothy | asl? |
| 23:05.10 | kamals | Im male |
| 23:05.34 | sbrothy | wonders what channel hes in. |
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| 23:06.07 | kamals | What |
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| 23:07.51 | LtL | kamals: this isn't the dating channel, notice the topic. have a nice day. :) |
| 23:07.56 | HelenB_ | Pls can someone help me with my APT? |
| 23:08.02 | HelenB_ | I am trying to install a package. |
| 23:08.11 | dvs | which one? |
| 23:08.12 | HelenB_ | scroll up there is a pastebin. |
| 23:08.25 | HelenB_ | scroll up there is a pastebin. dvs |
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| 23:09.02 | dvs | failed to fork? |
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| 23:10.32 | HelenB_ | dvs: Yes |
| 23:10.42 | dvs | no idea |
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| 23:15.23 | LtL | HelenB_: i may be mistaken, but i think that file requires a deb-src line in sources.list, just a guess |
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| 23:18.01 | n-iCe | any idea in how to install a wireless printer, canon mg3220 debian squeeze, thanks |
| 23:18.46 | LtL | HelenB_: nah, i cant be right, nm me. |
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| 23:30.59 | jparkton | when I use chown -R how do I specify two users? |
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| 23:32.17 | gnarface | jparkton: you can't |
| 23:32.27 | jparkton | ok |
| 23:32.33 | jparkton | that answers that haha |
| 23:33.33 | gnarface | jparkton: instead you need to specify a group and put all the users who you want to have access to these files into that group |
| 23:34.10 | gnarface | jparkton: the group has to exist of course. you may want to create one |
| 23:34.24 | jparkton | ohh ok |
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| 23:49.53 | n-iCe | any idea in how to install a wireless printer, canon mg3220 debian squeeze, thanks |
| 23:50.17 | ompaul | is there a method for preseeding a password or leaving it blank for an automated install for mysql |
| 23:51.45 | gnarface | !preseeding |
| 23:51.45 | dpkg | [preseed] Preseeding provides a way to set answers to questions asked during the Debian installation process, to allow for a streamlined or completely automated installation. The <install guide> provides an extensive appendix on preseeding with a full example. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed and http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/394 . See also <debconf-set-selections>. |
| 23:52.17 | gnarface | ompaul: i think you want debconf-set-selections |
| 23:52.32 | gnarface | ompaul: you should actually be able to do it with preseeding too |
| 23:52.56 | ompaul | gnarface: thanks |
| 23:52.57 | gnarface | preseeding implies a full OS installation but i believe that is optinoal |
| 23:53.00 | gnarface | *optional |
| 23:53.31 | ompaul | gnarface: hey whatever works |
| 23:53.32 | ompaul | ;-) |
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| 23:54.41 | lyda | i think ompaul asked this a bit earlier but i'll clarify. |
| 23:55.00 | ompaul | gnarface: meet the lyda ;-) |
| 23:55.08 | lyda | i have an already installed debian base image. say an amazon ami or an openstack image. |
| 23:56.14 | lyda | so now i'm going to script configuring these base images to tasks i want for them. |
| 23:56.52 | ompaul | there is a tasksel option you might adopt that |
| 23:56.56 | lyda | unfortunately the mysql-server package really wants to stop and ask me for a root password. which kind of defeats the whole automated install bit. |
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| 23:57.06 | lyda | there's export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive |
| 23:57.06 | ompaul | after you get your package built as you need |
| 23:57.29 | lyda | i don't really want to build debian packages. |
| 23:57.50 | lyda | if i have to build a debian package i may as well just build from source. |
| 23:57.55 | gnarface | lyda: i suggest you read the preseeding documentation. it addresses your concerns |
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| 23:58.33 | lyda | ok. my understanding was that preseeding was for scripting the entire install process. |
| 23:58.39 | lyda | but i'll go read. |
| 23:58.57 | gnarface | as i said, i believe that is implied but not necessary. |
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