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| 00:00.05 | streuner | isoman2kx: you have to 1) edit network-manager, if you using GNOME, or you disable it and use <interfaces> (/msg dpkg interfaces) |
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| 00:00.34 | isoman2kx | I'm using debian 6.06 |
| 00:00.53 | streuner | isoman2kx: ok, just disable the daemon of network-manager and use interfaces then |
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| 00:01.16 | streuner | isoman2kx: i guess, you have GNOME installed then |
| 00:01.42 | streuner | isoman2kx: /etc/init.d/network-manager stop |
| 00:02.27 | isoman2kx | that command didn't work |
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| 00:03.43 | streuner | isoman2kx: ls -l /etc/init.d/network-manager wouldnt work? well, you dont use GNOME then... |
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| 00:04.10 | isoman2kx | oh, you didn't say the ls -l part |
| 00:04.10 | isoman2kx | lol |
| 00:04.14 | streuner | isoman2kx: s/wouldnt work/doesnt give any result/ |
| 00:04.31 | jimcooncat | that's weird. bash completion is working on directories, but not in stuff in /etc/bash_completion.d (although there are entries in there) |
| 00:05.15 | streuner | isoman2kx: sounds strange to me, what kind of installer did you use, btw? |
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| 00:06.44 | isoman2kx | streuner: I'm not sure... amd64 ? or is that even accurate? lol |
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| 00:09.42 | peterrooney | this is some very bad programming and on debian's part: running "/etc/init.d/networking restart" yeilds the output "Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces ... (warning)." |
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| 00:10.12 | streuner | isoman2kx: just check out /msg dpkg interfaces, and make sure no other network daemon is running... |
| 00:10.15 | peterrooney | What does this REALLY mean, and where should I got o learn networking in debian, since it seems everything I've learned in the past decade has been forcibly made worthless? |
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| 00:10.49 | peterrooney | It's not a particularly useful or informative error/warning message |
| 00:11.07 | isoman2kx | how do I see interfaces like eth0, eth1, etc? |
| 00:11.10 | isoman2kx | what's the command? |
| 00:11.21 | streuner | isoman2kx: usually ifconfig |
| 00:11.40 | streuner | peterrooney: sounds wired, did you try google? |
| 00:11.41 | jimcooncat | in /etc/bash.bashrc the section "# enable bash completion in interactive shells" is all commented out. Could this be the cause? |
| 00:11.42 | isoman2kx | hmm. trid that. it doesn't list any eth0, eth1 |
| 00:11.43 | isoman2kx | etc |
| 00:12.24 | streuner | isoman2kx: well, usually module(s) arent loaded or/and the device isnt configured then |
| 00:13.06 | streuner | peterrooney: well, i would just use google first |
| 00:13.20 | peterrooney | streuner: never heard of google, what package is it in? |
| 00:13.29 | streuner | ehe |
| 00:13.35 | streuner | hehe |
| 00:14.18 | streuner | peterrooney: sounds really wired to me, i have no idea about that |
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| 00:14.48 | nevyn | does anyone have a working mtp solution for debian? |
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| 00:15.03 | nevyn | I've tried mtpfs and mtp-tools|utils whichever it is |
| 00:16.27 | streuner | isoman2kx: check out if the kernel regonises the device, if not, you have a problem then. Use dmesg and grep it |
| 00:16.50 | streuner | isoman2kx: dmesg | grep -i eth |
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| 00:17.17 | streuner | isoman2kx: if you get an output, the kernel supports it... |
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| 00:17.38 | streuner | isoman2kx: which results in an config issue |
| 00:17.45 | isoman2kx | ahh I got it |
| 00:17.46 | Tagor | Is there a way to find out what ports are used for an incoming connection? |
| 00:17.49 | isoman2kx | used ip link show |
| 00:17.56 | isoman2kx | and then modified /etc/networking/interfaces |
| 00:17.58 | isoman2kx | whew lol |
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| 00:21.56 | rryoumaa | is there any reason to get a monitor that has an osd? can typical linux-compatible cards be driven to adjust all the parameters of the monitor that count? |
| 00:22.17 | rryoumaa | (rgb, contrast, etc.) |
| 00:24.38 | Chousuke | are there monitors that actually leave those things to the graphics card? |
| 00:25.04 | Chousuke | I mean, I've never seen a monitor that did not have an OSD :P |
| 00:26.01 | Chousuke | well, except for device-integrated displays, of course. |
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| 00:26.42 | rryoumaa | Chousuke: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/hp_zr2740w_v2.htm |
| 00:26.52 | peterrooney | streuner, all i was able to find out was that the netbase package maintainer says, "do each interface manually". that's hard to understand or believe, and a represens a whole new kind of insane. The bug report is horrifying to read. |
| 00:26.59 | rryoumaa | (for example) |
| 00:27.31 | peterrooney | streuner: sorry, the bug report page on bdo is horrifying to read, despite its nominal civility. |
| 00:27.43 | streuner | peterrooney: well, i would ask her/him then directly |
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| 00:31.13 | Nahledge | How can I mark specific bad sectors as unuseable? I know i need to replace my HD but someting temporary? |
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| 00:31.15 | rryoumaa | does linux support DDC/CI (Display Data Channel Command Interface)? |
| 00:31.23 | Nahledge | fsck breaks my filesystem, so im not treading there. |
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| 00:33.33 | Chousuke | rryoumaa: quick google seems to indicate it does. |
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| 00:34.52 | nkuttler | Nahledge: badblocks |
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| 00:44.08 | Nahledge | nkuttler: is badblocks a program or what? |
| 00:45.08 | Brigo | Nahledge: yes, a program that search for bad blocks. |
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| 00:45.57 | Nahledge | Brigo do i have to run this from a live cd? |
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| 00:48.23 | Brigo | Nahledge: yes, or may be in rescue mode. In rescue mode filesystem is mounted read-only, and may be enough. |
| 00:48.58 | Nahledge | A guide says to use e2fsck -c ? is that what i do in rescue mode? |
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| 00:50.51 | Brigo | Nahledge: from e2fsck man page: -c This option causes e2fsck to use badblocks(8) program to do a read-only scan of the device in order to find any bad blocks. |
| 00:51.23 | Brigo | then yes, it is the same. |
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| 00:51.30 | Nahledge | last question before i go, is badblocks included in newest debian squeeze? |
| 00:52.08 | Brigo | Nahledge: yes, of couse. |
| 00:52.53 | PerfDave | In the e2fsprogs package |
| 00:53.17 | Nahledge | I just verified, its only not found if im not root, its all here. okay. brb. Thanks very much :) |
| 00:53.32 | Brigo | you are wellcome. |
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| 00:53.52 | PerfDave | Is there any way to make Network Manager ignore a wifi killswitch? |
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| 00:56.00 | tpo | NathanWWW, did you get anywhere? |
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| 00:57.35 | PerfDave | Hmm, rfkill only gets rid of "soft blocks". |
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| 01:05.06 | blink | / |
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| 01:13.05 | Mr_Sonoma | chasing a high processor usage issue, fresh install of debian stable on older machine has this output from lspi for video card info: VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M800/K8N800/K8N800A [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01) any one seen the processor spike when simply scrolling the screen? |
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| 01:17.55 | dvs | runs from the S3 |
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| 01:18.48 | PerfDave | Mr_Sonoma: What video driver is Xorg actually using, according to /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? |
| 01:19.11 | Mr_Sonoma | one second |
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| 01:19.50 | PerfDave | Got to go anyway, but that's the first place to look, along with "glxinfo | head" to see if it's using Direct Rendering (DRI) |
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| 01:22.29 | Craigwd_2000 | If you want my honest opinion the proposed kernel for Wheezy is kind of old; after I just switched over to AMD64 Kubuntu my Wi-Fi started working again: i.e.: kernel 3.5.0 vs. the available 3.4.0 currently in Debian... |
| 01:23.17 | dvs | ,kernels |
| 01:23.19 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.6-trunk-686-pae (3.6.6-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.32-1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.32-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.32-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-46); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-29) |
| 01:23.36 | dvs | zzzz |
| 01:24.05 | Mr_Sonoma | (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/openchrome_drv.so |
| 01:24.05 | Mr_Sonoma | (!!) VIA Technologies does not support this driver in any way. |
| 01:24.05 | Mr_Sonoma | (II) CHROME(0): Not using driver mode "1280x1024" (height too large for virtual size) |
| 01:24.06 | Mr_Sonoma | (II) [drm] loaded kernel module for "via" driver. |
| 01:24.06 | Mr_Sonoma | ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0 |
| 01:24.06 | Mr_Sonoma | (II) No input driver/identifier specified (ignoring) |
| 01:24.37 | Craigwd_2000 | Excuse me 3.2.0-4 in Wheezy vs. 3.5.0-X in AMD64 Kubuntu 12.10... |
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| 01:26.25 | Mr_Sonoma | yes it is using direct rendering |
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| 01:27.29 | stew | Mr_Sonoma: please use a pastebin instead of flooding the channel |
| 01:27.38 | Mr_Sonoma | sorry |
| 01:27.42 | stew | Craigwd_2000: note, of course, that the 3.5.0 kernel didn't exist when wheezy was frozen |
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| 01:28.54 | sweb | how can i insert text file as crontab data to crontab for special user ? |
| 01:29.10 | sweb | mycron.sh | crontab -u myuser ? |
| 01:29.22 | sweb | cat mycron.sh | crontab -u myuser ? |
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| 01:30.42 | stew | sweb: mycron.sh is a crontab? like "* * * * * command"? or a command that you want to be executed periodically? or something that will output a crontab? or what? |
| 01:30.55 | sweb | stew: yeah |
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| 01:31.07 | sweb | it's a complete crontab syntax |
| 01:31.15 | sweb | i want to inject to crontab for special user |
| 01:31.22 | sweb | append |
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| 01:32.53 | stew | sweb: (crontab -l -u user ; cat mycron.sh) | crontab -u user - |
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| 01:34.33 | sweb | stew: will be append mycron.sh to crontab of `user`, right ? if corntab not exist yet. will create it ? |
| 01:34.48 | Craigwd_2000 | Stew: Right. |
| 01:35.01 | stew | sweb: do you understand how my command works? |
| 01:35.35 | sweb | stew: emm ... not well |
| 01:35.46 | stew | sweb: then ask specific questions about it |
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| 01:39.04 | stew | sweb: seriously, i want to help. which part are you not sure about. once your understand it, both of your previous questions will be answered |
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| 01:40.05 | sweb | stew: ty for guide |
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| 01:41.47 | daemonkeeper | Craigwd_2000: I am not sure to get your point though. If the kernel version is you only concern, you may well build your own, or use the experimental kernel. |
| 01:42.32 | stew | or post-release, use a kernel from backports |
| 01:42.47 | daemonkeeper | Or that. |
| 01:42.48 | jparkton | ok im back finally |
| 01:43.05 | jparkton | nkuttler, you still araound? |
| 01:43.27 | sweb | stew: it's work but with error ... no crontab for user |
| 01:46.12 | stew | sweb: yeah, and that is okay. when you do 'crontab -u user -l' for a user with no cron, that string ends up on stderr, but you can ignore it (or pipe it to /dev/null if you like). but stdout, which you are re-capturing into the new crontab will be empty in that situation |
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| 01:47.08 | stew | it might be nice for either crontab to have an append or for it to have a way to supress just that warning |
| 01:47.21 | jparkton | I am having an internal server error when trying to serve up python scripts with Apach2, mod-fastcgi installed how can I diagnose it |
| 01:47.39 | stew | jparkton: what is the error? |
| 01:47.55 | jparkton | Internal Server Error |
| 01:48.18 | stew | right, what is it? did you look in the error log? |
| 01:48.22 | Craigwd_2000 | Daemonkeeper: So far I like AMD64 Kubuntu 12.10 quite well; but once wheezy becomes Stable I might actually try Jessie... |
| 01:48.51 | daemonkeeper | Craigwd_2000: You realize Jessie will be release - and I'm guessing here - roughly 2015? |
| 01:48.56 | daemonkeeper | *released |
| 01:49.01 | dvs | O__O |
| 01:49.07 | Craigwd_2000 | Yeah. |
| 01:49.28 | stew | and probably the worst time to try it will be right after the wheezy release |
| 01:49.29 | jparkton | stew, cant find my error log |
| 01:49.47 | stew | jparkton: try /var/log/apache2/err.log |
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| 01:53.07 | jparkton | stew, http://pastie.org/5434079 |
| 01:53.15 | jparkton | I think thats the main issue |
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| 01:54.08 | Craigwd_2000 | Thanks for the advice Stew. |
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| 01:59.25 | syntaxx | not debian specific. i am not sure if you guys encountered that your server reboot because the time isnt sync? |
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| 02:03.34 | Infiltra1or | syntaxx: Haven't seen that on gnu/linux boxes. |
| 02:03.40 | Infiltra1or | syntaxx: What do you have running on it? |
| 02:05.00 | homes | syntaxx: hell no |
| 02:05.24 | homes | syntaxx: that sounds like a critical bug |
| 02:05.58 | Infiltra1or | syntaxx: Either way, doesn't ntpd solve that? |
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| 02:06.20 | syntaxx | Infiltra1or, thats im trying to investigate as to why ntp did not update in the first place. |
| 02:06.41 | homes | it may abort if your time is too far out of sync |
| 02:06.42 | Infiltra1or | syntaxx: Ah, I see. Check the logs for ntp messages then. :) |
| 02:06.53 | syntaxx | Infiltra1or, check this "xxxxxx pts/0 10.1.50.132 Sat Nov 17 16:01 - 00:25 (08:24) reboot system boot 2.6.32-43-server Sat Nov 17 16:58 - 11:55 (4+18:56)" the reboot happened ahead of the user login |
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| 02:07.08 | homes | [as it presumes something seriously wrong is going on] |
| 02:07.13 | syntaxx | the user is logged in after the reboot at 16:01 while the reboot happened 16:58 |
| 02:07.42 | homes | doesn't that mean the user logged in before? |
| 02:07.44 | themill | wrong time in lastlog ≠ server rebooted because time was wrong |
| 02:08.21 | syntaxx | homes, no i think its ascending the reboot happened first then the user logged in |
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| 02:09.34 | syntaxx | themill, so its possible that the server will reboot if the time is wrong? |
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| 02:09.46 | themill | no |
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| 02:17.07 | Infiltra1or | syntaxx: What's in your crontabs? What daemons are running? Does anybody else have access to the server who may have rebooted it? What kind of reboot was it? (e.g. clean, hard, panic, etc) |
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| 02:24.36 | smacnay | What would be the wisest and method for sharing an external usb drive on a lin box on a home network? I thought of ftp server from the lin box but am wondering about a samba share... |
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| 02:24.52 | smacnay | The network has a mix of linux, win, and mac. |
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| 02:31.00 | dvs | smacnay: I'd pick the samba route |
| 02:32.14 | smacnay | I am starting to feel the same. |
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| 02:35.22 | smacnay | Now to relearn how to automount the usb drive on the squeeze box. |
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| 02:38.28 | LtL | smacnay: package usbmount |
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| 02:39.02 | smacnay | I installed that but do not see the drive mounted. Is there a trick to getting this working? |
| 02:39.26 | LtL | smacnay: not that i'm aware of |
| 02:41.34 | thinkerweb | how do I zip a file, I tried "zip -r myzipdir.zip directIwannaZip" but nothing |
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| 02:42.49 | themill | thinkerweb: "nothing" meaning what? |
| 02:43.51 | thinkerweb | themill, it does a bunch of updating and a few adding and its finished but I don't see my newly created myzipdir.zip file there |
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| 02:46.06 | themill | thinkerweb: works here just fine |
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| 02:49.09 | thinkerweb | themill, thx for testing, it works here too. |
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| 02:50.15 | maher | anyone using google apps script |
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| 02:52.09 | smacnay | I know why usbmount won't mount my usb drive - my drive is ntfs and it appears as though usbmount does not work with this. |
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| 02:54.23 | jparkton | abrotman, you awake still? |
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| 02:58.49 | LtL | smacnay: ntfs-3g may do the trick, not sure |
| 02:58.59 | smacnay | thanks |
| 02:59.23 | LtL | smacnay: you're welcome |
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| 03:01.34 | n-iCe | hello, is there any way to disable the warning asking the key to unlock the key locking? haha or something like that |
| 03:01.55 | n-iCe | in order to make my AP's passwords available for network manager or something, no idea how it works, but kinda annoys me |
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| 03:09.32 | muddo | this may not be the best place to ask, but i can no longer establish ipv6 tunnels in sid. its been about a week and i have tried several tunnel brokers. anyone else experience this issue? |
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| 04:15.11 | Ciera | I'm probably in the wrong channel for this but does anyone have any experience setting RDNS records with bind9/can you point me to the correct channel? |
| 04:15.16 | Ciera | Thanks \o |
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| 04:17.13 | Ciera | Oh it's for IPv6, forgot to mention. |
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| 04:22.18 | LtL | Ciera: #bind |
| 04:22.34 | Ciera | Ah, thank you. |
| 04:22.44 | LtL | sure :) |
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| 05:16.16 | iToast | oh god |
| 05:16.20 | iToast | #debian-arm = fail |
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| 05:18.40 | themill | iToast: #debian-arm is on irc.oftc.net |
| 05:18.55 | iToast | why. |
| 05:19.01 | themill | because. |
| 05:19.14 | iToast | Belongs on freenode. |
| 05:19.29 | themill | all of debian's developer channels are on oftc and have been for some years. |
| 05:19.38 | iToast | why?! |
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| 05:19.44 | MadMockers | ... |
| 05:19.55 | iToast | The channels are all over the place :S |
| 05:19.58 | MadMockers | does your religion prohibit you from joining oftc? |
| 05:20.07 | iToast | MadMockers, yes. |
| 05:20.16 | MadMockers | Sounds like you need a new religion |
| 05:20.38 | iToast | eh |
| 05:20.40 | iToast | im on tere |
| 05:21.17 | raxo | is the debian 7 beta installer an installer for testing (rolling release), or is it frozen? |
| 05:21.36 | raxo | this http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2012/20121122 |
| 05:21.40 | themill | raxo: the debian 7 beta installer is an installer for wheezy. |
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| 05:22.49 | raxo | so not rolling? |
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| 05:23.42 | themill | raxo: debian doesn't have a rolling release like that. |
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| 05:28.57 | Beast | raxo: I've never used a rolling release distro but from what I've read, unstable is probably closer to that sort of thing. |
| 05:29.47 | Beast | and you probably don't want to be running that, unless you know to get around the odd huge issue. |
| 05:30.20 | stew | and right now unstable is getting very few updates becuase testing is frozen |
| 05:30.35 | stew | which many people looking for a rolling distro would dislike |
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| 06:51.53 | srg | Hey. I have debian mounting a NFS share. I can run the mount command as root (well, with sudo) and it mounts the share. However, I can't access it as a normal user, I have to use the root user to access the files in the share |
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| 07:25.29 | arvind_khadri | Hi, I am running debian squeeze, and I have also apache running on it. Right now using htop I can see that all the cores of the machine are at 100% and user "www-data" is running /usr/sbin/httpd. This repeats often, what do I do to find out why www-data is running it and also how do I stop it from happening again. Also sometimes www-data will be running perl. |
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| 07:36.51 | nvz | how do I run an xclient on a machine via ssh.. I can figure out how to run a remote xclient locally but how do I run something from ssh and have it show up on the already running remote xdisplay? |
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| 07:37.33 | nvz | I tried exporting XAUTH and DISPLAY but that didnt seem to work |
| 07:38.24 | soreau | nvz: ssh -X? |
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| 07:38.48 | soreau | nvz: oh you want it to display on the remote server? |
| 07:38.50 | nvz | soreau: that does the opposite.. that makes things i run on remote host via ssh run here on MY xdisplay |
| 07:39.04 | soreau | setting DISPLAY should be enough then |
| 07:39.10 | nvz | yes I want to kill vlc and restart it from shell |
| 07:39.27 | soreau | what happens when you try? |
| 07:40.22 | nvz | soreau: No protocol specified\n Error: Can't open display: :0 |
| 07:40.36 | nvz | same if I export DISPLAY=':0.0 |
| 07:41.02 | soreau | nvz: What does 'ps ax|grep X' say for display? (is it on :0? ) |
| 07:41.17 | nvz | soreau: I was thinking and typing that as you were.. heh |
| 07:41.36 | nvz | soreau: it says :0 is where its running |
| 07:42.03 | nvz | soreau: however its running as root which kinda splains it |
| 07:42.13 | soreau | hm |
| 07:42.17 | nvz | the user is logged in as a non-root user but its started via gdm |
| 07:42.34 | soreau | yea, I think X runs as root |
| 07:42.38 | soreau | nvz: can you run anything trivial such as xcalc or xterm with DISPLAY set? |
| 07:42.52 | nvz | soreau: I was trying xmessage doesnt get more trivial than that |
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| 07:42.57 | nvz | its built-in |
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| 07:43.33 | soreau | nvz: not sure then. If you have DISPLAY set in a valid environment with a valid X session running, it should work |
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| 07:44.12 | nvz | doesn't work either as root or as the user logged in.. same two messages |
| 07:45.34 | nvz | synergy is flaky as can be.. randomly disconnects |
| 07:45.38 | soreau | nvz: You might be doing something wrong.. |
| 07:45.51 | soreau | I don't really see why that wouldn't work |
| 07:45.54 | soreau | are you logged in without -X? |
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| 07:46.01 | nvz | soreau: yes |
| 07:46.17 | soreau | I don't even think -X should matter though |
| 07:46.33 | nvz | it matters.. with -X it runs locally |
| 07:46.41 | soreau | nvz: DISPLAY=:0 xcalc |
| 07:46.45 | soreau | this fails? |
| 07:47.08 | nvz | yes says no protocol specified, error cannot open display |
| 07:47.25 | soreau | well you have some obscure issue then.. |
| 07:47.32 | soreau | not really sure what it could be though |
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| 07:47.53 | nvz | me either, its an entirely standard desktop install of squeeze |
| 07:48.10 | nvz | gdm3, gnome, normal user created from installer logged in.. |
| 07:48.13 | soreau | nvz: sorry I can't help, maybe someone else here knows |
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| 07:53.54 | nvz | only explaination I can come up with is that ~/.Xauthority is NOT the right file |
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| 07:54.12 | nvz | gdm3 probably has one hidden in /var/ somewhere |
| 07:54.20 | dcherniv | nvz, whats the problem? |
| 07:54.35 | nvz | I just want to ssh into the other box and run an xclient on it |
| 07:54.58 | nvz | it says no protocol specified, error cannot open display :0 |
| 07:55.05 | dcherniv | nvz, with ssh? |
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| 07:55.17 | nvz | yes with ssh |
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| 07:55.31 | formorer | nvz: ssh -v to a pastebin please |
| 07:55.46 | formorer | is xauth installed? |
| 07:55.55 | dcherniv | nvz, AllowX11Forwarding yes is enabled in sshd_config? |
| 07:56.05 | nvz | of course xauth is installed.. or I wouldnt have X running.. heh |
| 07:56.12 | formorer | nvz: on the other side. |
| 07:56.15 | nvz | and X11 forwarding has nothing to do with this |
| 07:56.24 | nvz | I want to run an xclient from the host on the host |
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| 07:57.31 | dcherniv | nvz, ah what does echo $DISPLAY say on the host? |
| 07:58.08 | nvz | I export DISPLAY=':0' and XAUTHORITY='~/.Xauthority' |
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| 07:58.31 | nvz | then try run xmessage and it says no protocol specified, cannot open :0 |
| 07:58.40 | dcherniv | nvz, why? those two should be set when x startx |
| 07:58.44 | dcherniv | *starts |
| 07:58.52 | nvz | ugh |
| 07:59.14 | nvz | I should just see if I can make synergy not suck |
| 07:59.33 | nvz | no sooner do I get up to start it over there, it disconnectes before I get back over here |
| 08:00.03 | nvz | cause this is even more of a PITA.. trying to killall vlc and nohup vlc & via ssh |
| 08:00.17 | dcherniv | nvz, use screen |
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| 08:00.32 | nvz | at least for this problem I could just turn on vlc's http interface |
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| 08:00.52 | nvz | but it'd be nice if they made4 something like synergy that works |
| 08:01.08 | dcherniv | nvz, synergy works |
| 08:01.09 | nvz | that you can start with an X session and have it stay on.. and idk maybe use f'n zeroconf |
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| 08:01.43 | dcherniv | nvz, zeroconf is not needed |
| 08:01.49 | nvz | synergy is useless for the most part it randomly disconnects and doesnt properly reconnect from the side that has input devices |
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| 08:02.20 | nvz | if I get up and walk over there right now and start it I may get 6 seconds before it loses connection and I gotta get up and walk back over there to restart it |
| 08:02.32 | dcherniv | nvz, whats the error? |
| 08:03.11 | nvz | i get no error, just stops working randomly |
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| 08:04.28 | nvz | in any case, I'm over all of it for now.. he's asleep.. and I'm going to watch the walking dead.. |
| 08:04.43 | nvz | will figure out some means of controlling the computer on the tv another time |
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| 08:13.46 | CQ | hello, I have an exim problem... I have exim set up to use a smarthost, and delover mail for the local machine locally (obviously). But when I send mail to root@localhost or jsut root it tries to send out via the smarthost instead of delivering locally. any ideas? |
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| 08:19.03 | ChrisH | CQ: yes... some idas |
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| 08:20.17 | ChrisH | CQ: pastebin /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf to http://paste.debian.net/ |
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| 08:39.28 | CQ | ChrisH: got that part working, whats not working is the .forward in my account... its not authenticating. Where does an addr in .forward get its authentication from, /etc/exim4/passwd.client or somewhere in my home dir? |
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| 08:41.28 | mrtnt_ | I would like to start a cron job on every Monday 2:00 AM. I added following line to /etc/crontab: "0 2 * * 1 user /home/user/script.sh". For some reason the script did not start on Monday 2:00AM. Any ideas why? Is my crontab line wrong? |
| 08:42.50 | deather | is the script.sh file executable? |
| 08:43.02 | deather | have you checked /var/log/cron ? |
| 08:43.46 | ChrisH | CQ: why not use /etc/aliases instead? |
| 08:44.08 | judezhan | why not use crontab -e |
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| 08:47.33 | ChrisH | mrtnt_: does the script work as user if you run it using 'at now' RETURN /home/user/script.sh RETURN CTRL-D ? Most times cronjobs issues are simply caused by wrong assumptions on environment. If the script does work as user does not mean its clean to run from user's crontab. BTW, I do not like this /etc/crontab way. |
| 08:48.32 | CQ | chrish aliases is OK, all is root, root goes to me, and my .forward should sent to ma ISP account, but that's what isn't working with the .forward |
| 08:48.45 | CQ | where does teh .forward get its authentication info from? |
| 08:48.53 | MountainGoat | anyone familiar with troubleshooting wpa_supplicant? strangely I got a link with NetworkManager, but I can't do it with wpa_supplicant?! |
| 08:49.04 | CQ | i.e. .forward goes to s smarthost, wheres the login data? |
| 08:51.14 | ChrisH | CQ: 1. alias your local account to your external account, 2. from /etc/exim4/passwd.client see exim4_passwd_client(5) for more documentation |
| 08:52.50 | ChrisH | CQ: for debug run date | mailx -s test -v root and check if you can pastebin the output |
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| 08:58.40 | mrtnt_ | deather, ChrisH: thanks for the tips. Executable bit is allowed. I'll check at first under user named "user". |
| 08:59.04 | CQ | chrish ok got it working with passwd.client, thanks |
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| 09:21.01 | codygman | Suppose you have a system and you don't know how graphics card drivers were installed. All you know is running glxinfo gives you this: http://bpaste.net/show/wepncaJ4oQGZo8TYMWM1/ |
| 09:21.21 | codygman | What do you do? Purge everything and install "the debian way"? How do you make sure everything is purged? |
| 09:23.07 | soreau | codygman: Typically, read the X log |
| 09:23.54 | soreau | it's pretty obvious from that output, that the glx drivers are not installed properly |
| 09:24.09 | soreau | and I suspect proprietary driver involvement |
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| 09:26.41 | codygman | soreau: I did a find on the home directory and found a folder that contained nvidias driver... but not the driver itself.. I'm guessing redownload and run the uninstall? |
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| 09:27.49 | soreau | codygman: reinstall it |
| 09:27.56 | soreau | -> bed |
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| 09:28.10 | codygman | thanks for the help soreau , night. |
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| 10:11.49 | ChrisH | ,v gnome-shell |
| 10:11.50 | judd | Package: gnome-shell on i386 -- sid: 3.4.2-2; wheezy: 3.4.2-2; experimental: 3.6.1-3 |
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| 10:19.33 | mamed | helloo .some questions about unicode utf-8 and wider chars. i wonder: assuming that a user has a chinese keyboard and wrote a text. how can i convert this text into latin characters(ascii or ansii)) |
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| 10:23.49 | mamed | helloo .some questions about unicode utf-8 and wider chars. i wonder: assuming that a user has a chinese keyboard and wrote a text. how can i convert this text into latin characters(ascii or ansii)) |
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| 10:24.40 | ChrisH | mamed: Aint that more a "logical" problem from translating chinese to western characters then a UTF8/16/X |
| 10:25.15 | mamed | ChrisH: i will use the translated string/text in the terminal. |
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| 10:25.30 | mamed | as far as i know terminals are ansii right? |
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| 10:28.30 | ChrisH | mamed: I have no idea on chinese/japanese characters. My assumption was simply that is not just a \xxxx in UTF8 gets mapped to xyz in ASCII. |
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| 10:29.40 | mamed | so ChrisH it will be hard or not? you have no idea. how can i solve it . do you know anybody can help me? |
| 10:30.19 | ChrisH | mamed: You need to ask someone with chinese/japanse language knowledge. |
| 10:30.51 | mamed | any asian people?? |
| 10:32.40 | mamed | are there any asian people here |
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| 10:34.38 | jelly | !jp |
| 10:34.39 | dpkg | Japanese speakers: please use #debianjp on irc.debian.or.jp or speak English here. |
| 10:35.13 | jelly | !cn |
| 10:35.13 | dpkg | 如果您想得到中文的帮助，请您移步本服务器上的#debian-zh频道，进入方式是在您现在输入文字的输入框中输入"/join #debian-zh" （不含引号），谢谢您的合作如果您想要得到中文的協助，請加入伺服器上的 #debian-zh (irc.oftc.net) 頻道，加入方法為在輸入框中輸入 "/server irc.oftc.net" 和 "/join #debian-zh" (不要加引號)，謝謝您的合作! |
| 10:35.22 | jelly | nice |
| 10:35.49 | jelly | has no idea what it says, but the characters sure look pretty |
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| 10:38.41 | jelly | mamed: converting to latin would mean transliteration, and there're a couple translit. standards - pinyin comes to mind for chinese. Perhaps there are useful tools in "apt-cache search pinyin"? |
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| 10:53.05 | Rikle_S | Hello |
| 10:53.26 | Rikle_S | i haven't sound on a fresh debian install |
| 10:53.48 | Rikle_S | soud card is detected, but "test" doesn't work |
| 10:54.04 | Rikle_S | i've try to install gstreamer-tools, mais nothing to do |
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| 10:59.58 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell Rikle_S about sound |
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| 11:16.19 | Nahledge | why does badblocks take so painfully long when gnome's disk utility identify 450 bad sectors in about 10 minutes. I ran badblocks for over 10 hours, I eventually had to stop it, it was getting ridiculously long, is there an alternative solution to marking bad sectors as unuseable? |
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| 11:23.23 | ChrisH | Nahledge: Just to sumup, your disk (I assumes its younger then 5years) shows bad sectors. You waste time by running badblocks instead of taking another backup and get a new disk? IF modern disks do show bad sectors to the host, it means they did use all spare blockes reserved and the disk is going to fail soon. Replace the disk ASAP |
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| 11:24.48 | Nahledge | Okay. I have a laptop, I have never dived into the world of hardware much before, how do I know what kind of harddrive im currently using, i think the terms i found were SATA/IDE/ and something else. |
| 11:25.33 | jelly | Nahledge: you can start by taking notice of the hw vendor and model number, and looking up its specs |
| 11:26.03 | jelly | from linux, you can look at |
| 11:26.09 | jelly | !whats my hardware |
| 11:26.09 | dpkg | You can use lspci, lsusb, lsscsi, lspcmcia, lshal, hwinfo, dmidecode, and/or lshw, or even dmesg to find out what kind of hardware your machine might have, or you could crack the lid and look inside ... oooh, shiny! If you install lshw, run "lshw -html > myhardware.html" as root and you'll have a nice HTML summation. See also <myram>, <driver locator>. |
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| 11:26.19 | ChrisH | Nahledge: SATA/IDE should be young enough. Important question once more: Do you have a backup of relevant and needed data? |
| 11:26.20 | jelly | lshw isn't bad |
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| 11:27.20 | Nahledge | I have very little needed data, some movies i dl'd that can go as they will take longer to back up than to re-download, since i only have a cd burner and no usb devices. |
| 11:28.30 | nvz | its kinda sad its come to that.. I've downloaded movies countless times I have on VHS in the attic.. but since you gotta rob a museum to play a VHS..heh |
| 11:28.48 | Nahledge | It says interface type ATA-100 |
| 11:29.02 | Nahledge | This is my HD http://reviews.cnet.com/system-hard-drives/hitachi-travelstar-5k100-hts541060g9at00/4505-9989_7-31792591.html |
| 11:29.03 | ChrisH | as root lshw -short -c disk |
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| 11:29.52 | Nahledge | lshw command not found |
| 11:30.07 | ChrisH | use smartmontools to ask the disk about health state |
| 11:30.57 | Nahledge | whats the command for that? is it included in squeez? |
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| 11:31.27 | nvz | ,versions smartmontools |
| 11:31.28 | judd | Package: smartmontools on i386 -- lenny: 5.38-2+lenny1; lenny-backports: 5.39.1+svn3124-2~bpo50+1; squeeze: 5.39.1+svn3124-2; squeeze-backports: 5.41+svn3365-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 5.41+svn3365-1; sid: 5.42+svn3561-3 |
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| 11:32.24 | litb | hello all |
| 11:32.33 | litb | can alien automatically resolve dependencies of RPM files for me? |
| 11:32.46 | litb | i wanna install some RPMs of fedora into my debian $HOME directory |
| 11:32.46 | ChrisH | Nahledge: smartctl -H /dev/sdc ; replace sdc with your devicefile. |
| 11:33.01 | litb | which has a decent list of dependencies (mingw-w64 poppler pkgs) |
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| 11:33.34 | nvz | litb: all alien does is convert the package format.. its up to the package manager to resolve dependancies |
| 11:33.39 | Nahledge | ChrisH: Passed |
| 11:34.16 | nvz | litb: that being said you could run into issues with dependencies as they could be named differently in other distros or not available in debian |
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| 11:35.13 | ChrisH | Nahledge: bad sectors and Passed... strange. |
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| 11:37.35 | Nahledge | ChrisH: Yeah it is weird. I've reformatted like 3 times, it starts off fine then i start getting errors when my disk is about halfway full |
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| 11:40.29 | ChrisH | Nahledge: a) please define reformatted b) show the errors from dmesg on http://paste.debian.net/ plaese |
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| 11:40.43 | tlund | I have a USB stick with GRUB on it, where one option is to install debian by booting the "hdmedia" kernel/initrd, and then the bussinescard.iso in the root filesystem of the USB stick. I want to add wheezy/testing now - but I am unable to find a suitable iso image - are they not (yet) generated? |
| 11:42.43 | Nahledge | ChrisH: dmsg gives me TONS of output, i think only a few lines pertain to the harddisk, should i paste it all or the parts that look relevent? |
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| 11:44.34 | ChrisH | Nahledge: If you do not mind, paste all |
| 11:45.04 | tlund | (there is a netinst image at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/ but no bussinescard) |
| 11:45.07 | Nahledge | ChrisH: http://paste.debian.net/212424/ |
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| 11:51.02 | ChrisH | Nahledge: lines 267,276,285 show media error and 322 "Unrecovered read error - auto reallocate failed" Get a new disk. |
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| 11:52.53 | Nahledge | ChrisH: I thought this was the answer lol. Could you help me figure out what type of HD i need. Disk utility says its location is "Port 1 of PATA Host Adapter" |
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| 11:54.48 | ChrisH | Nahledge: "auto reallocate failed" is what I tried to explain earlier. If you run smartctl -a /dev/sdc it will provide you the detailed version, check google on that type. Or easier, remove the disk and have a look. |
| 11:55.41 | ChrisH | Nahledge: It seems to be a dell, so removing the Disktray from a powered off system should be esay. |
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| 11:57.43 | Nahledge | Can you have a distro on a usb harddrive with no internal HD? |
| 11:58.06 | sussudio | Nahledge: one way to be sure if the disk is buggered (if you don't care about losing the data) is running DBAN on it |
| 11:59.06 | sussudio | it's very effective at forcing reallocation of bad sectors. |
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| 12:01.46 | ChrisH | sussudio: you saw the messeages pastebin? |
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| 12:02.53 | sussudio | you should make sure it's not the cable. |
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| 12:03.52 | nvz | sussudio sees everything... its the fact that you got him to speak that surprises me |
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| 12:05.50 | ChrisH | hands a red pencil to nvz to mark this day |
| 12:05.51 | sussudio | has been running spinrite on a severly shagged hd for about a week now |
| 12:06.25 | nvz | in soviet russian, red pencil marks YOU! |
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| 12:07.57 | Nahledge | My computer has PATA (IDE), so SATA will not work right? |
| 12:08.18 | Nahledge | and i dont really want to waste time doing dban if the problem will arise again. |
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| 12:08.41 | ChrisH | nvz: ACK, but my map does no longer shows sovjet russia/USSR/CCCP |
| 12:08.42 | n1md4 | hello. I hope there is someone here with iscsi experience. I want to know the correct way to have 2+ iscsi luns. currently I have this http://pastie.org/5436865 |
| 12:08.58 | ChrisH | Nahledge: PATA and SATA do not even match mechanically. |
| 12:09.31 | Nahledge | Damn I can find dirt cheap SATA drives but pata i cant even locate locally. |
| 12:09.37 | Nahledge | at any price at all |
| 12:09.48 | ChrisH | Nahledge: where are you located? |
| 12:09.49 | p0g0 | Nahledge: there are cheap add on cards that do SATA |
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| 12:10.31 | Nahledge | Toronto. Every pata drive im finding from those large commercial stores has high price pata |
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| 12:10.43 | sussudio | Nahledge: how old is this thing? |
| 12:10.53 | sussudio | piix... |
| 12:11.01 | sussudio | pentium 3? |
| 12:11.29 | Nahledge | im thinking of scrapping this and using raspberry pi, i only use this for music and video anyway. && sussudio its a dell latitude d505, not even sure of the specs |
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| 12:13.03 | ChrisH | Nahledge: If you get a new/used disk, replacment with Latitudes is easy. 1 screw to get the disk tray out and then a few screws to replace the disk itself. Did it some times for my Latitude :) |
| 12:13.14 | sussudio | Nahledge: says pentium m up to 1.8GHz... not too bad. laptops suck, though. |
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| 12:14.10 | sussudio | Nahledge: that chipset doesn't have sata, but some manufacturers would put a promise sata raid on the board |
| 12:14.17 | nvz | ChrisH: its marked United States of America |
| 12:14.55 | Nahledge | Yeah but the laptop is basically destroyed, screen is smashed, peices are hanging out the bottom, i can literally see the cmos battery. i have to hook it up vga to my tv to even have a screen. not sure im investing another dollar in this bag of bones lol |
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| 12:15.09 | Nahledge | Has anyone used pi for video playback with success, i find mixed replies from google |
| 12:15.30 | sussudio | isn't it supposed to do accelerated 1080i? |
| 12:15.54 | ChrisH | still waiting for his PI to be delivered |
| 12:16.34 | MrMaDSeN | I gave up |
| 12:16.52 | MrMaDSeN | I dont wanna wait that long for something that little |
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| 12:16.53 | MrMaDSeN | :D |
| 12:17.13 | Nahledge | I have a local guy selling them. |
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| 12:17.42 | Nahledge | I'd rather pay the shipping cost via price markup directly to a person than wait. |
| 12:17.59 | Nahledge | i've heard of people not receiving their pi for 4months+ |
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| 16:02.51 | saep | Seryth: have you ever used aptitudes "gui"? |
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| 16:03.15 | schreber | Is anyone running cinnamon or mate under debian sid (unstable)? |
| 16:03.16 | Seryth | saep: Do you mean synaptic? |
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| 16:03.21 | blackshirt | somiaj: still there guys ? |
| 16:03.31 | saep | Seryth: just type aptitude in a terminal :P |
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| 16:03.53 | Seryth | saep: Oh, haha, no I've never used it! |
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| 16:05.49 | Seryth | saep: So how do I choose a different phonon backend? |
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| 16:05.57 | blackshirt | hello people, i want to help |
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| 16:07.18 | boudiccas | blackshirt: what do you want to help with? |
| 16:07.49 | blackshirt | boudiccas: is it possible to resume from broken debootstrap process ? |
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| 16:08.22 | saep | Seryth: Press '-' on "phonon-backend-vlc" and try to resolve the conflict. Packages with a conflict are marked with a red background etc. You should probably just play around a bit (not as root!) and select "forget pending actions" afterwards from the menu. |
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| 16:08.31 | boudiccas | blackshirt: oh! suou dont WANT to help, you NEED help! whole different ball game that! |
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| 16:09.42 | boudiccas | So you |
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| 16:10.05 | blackshirt | boudiccas: :d |
| 16:10.19 | Seryth | saep: I can't see phonon-backend-vlc, only phonon-backend-vlc-dbg? |
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| 16:12.28 | boudiccas | schreber: i have run MATE under wheezy, although its unsupported, and have blogged about it here ..http://www.sharons.org.uk/taste/index.html |
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| 16:13.56 | yonk | jhutchins_wk: how do I know if printers work with macs? I have nothing to do with apple inc.. check at cups.org for specific printers? I thought one should check at openprinting.org |
| 16:14.11 | Seryth | http://ompldr.org/vZ2dpZQ saep This is what I see |
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| 16:14.40 | yopyop | Hello, does anyone knows a fix with snmpd version on stable/testing to get infos on partition larger than 2tb and more than 2gb of memory ? |
| 16:15.14 | schreber | boudiccas, thanks |
| 16:15.25 | yonk | I would like to buy an obsolete second hand printer for about 100-200 Euro that is well supported by GNU/Linux and cups. A few years ago the HP Laserjet P300 series was recommended. How does it look today? |
| 16:15.26 | saep | Seryth: http://ompldr.org/vZ2dpZg |
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| 16:16.26 | ChrisH | yonk: If the printer speaks Postscript you are normally on the safe side. I cheeck http://www.openprinting.org/printers for any other printer. |
| 16:17.11 | Seryth | saep: phonon-backend-mplayer is what I want! But it's not listed in my aptitude... |
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| 16:18.37 | saep | I can't use it either. :P |
| 16:18.54 | Seryth | Bummer. |
| 16:18.59 | boudiccas | ,v phonon-backend-mplayer |
| 16:19.00 | judd | No package named 'phonon-backend-mplayer' was found in i386. |
| 16:19.00 | schreber | boudiccas, caja is spanish and can mean box, container, desk and a few other oddities depending on context. |
| 16:19.29 | boudiccas | schreber: ah, right, thanks. i did wonder what it meant :) |
| 16:19.36 | Seryth | http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/phonon |
| 16:19.48 | boudiccas | , phonon |
| 16:19.50 | Seryth | "sug: phonon-backend-mplayer: Package not availabel" |
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| 16:19.59 | boudiccas | ,v phonon |
| 16:20.00 | judd | Package: phonon on i386 -- lenny: 4:4.2.0-2; squeeze: 4:4.6.0really4.4.2-1; sid: 4:4.6.0.0-2; wheezy: 4:4.6.0.0-2 |
| 16:20.00 | Seryth | available* |
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| 16:21.35 | Seryth | http://gitorious.org/phonon/phonon-mplayer saep |
| 16:21.44 | matlads | ,v phonon-backend-gstreamer |
| 16:21.46 | judd | Package: phonon-backend-gstreamer on i386 -- lenny: 4:4.2.0-2; squeeze: 4:4.6.0really4.4.2-1; sid: 4:4.6.0.0-2; wheezy: 4:4.6.0.0-2 |
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| 16:22.25 | saep | Seryth: i still recommend to just install all the dependencies and recommendations and be done with it :o |
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| 16:22.48 | Seryth | *sigh* |
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| 16:23.07 | Seryth | Installing now |
| 16:23.18 | Seryth | lol |
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| 16:23.43 | BadCodSmell | I have echo '* *... etc' > /var/spool/cron/crontabs/user and it shows with crontab -l -u user but does not appear to run even afater a reboot, do I need to do something else? |
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| 16:24.55 | jelly | BadCodSmell: do not edit the files directly. |
| 16:25.28 | BadCodSmell | this is automated |
| 16:25.37 | BadCodSmell | and -e sucks for that |
| 16:25.44 | BadCodSmell | so what is the proper way to add automatically? |
| 16:26.35 | jelly | EDITOR=yourscript crontab -u user -e, I guess |
| 16:27.05 | jelly | er, no, that's silly |
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| 16:27.15 | matlads | ( crontab -l; echo "* * … etc") | crontab -u user |
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| 16:27.23 | jelly | BadCodSmell: TFM says crontab -u user file |
| 16:28.06 | ChrisH | BadCodSmell: I just checked and it looks like GNU cron acts as SystemV cron. crontab -u user -l | grep -v scripttoadd > $TMPFLE ; echo extra >> $TMPFILE ; crontab -u user $TMPFILE |
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| 16:30.31 | ChrisH | BadCodSmell: read the part about idempotent in the manpage |
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| 16:43.41 | BadCodSmell | I want > |
| 16:44.28 | BadCodSmell | so I think echo "*etc" | crontab -u user will be good |
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| 16:46.38 | DammitJim | I'm going to install wheezy from USB |
| 16:46.39 | DammitJim | I have done the dd thing to copy the installer to the USB stick |
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| 16:46.48 | DammitJim | is there a way I can make the device writeable so I can load more stuff on it? |
| 16:47.02 | DammitJim | it's a 16GB USB stick and don't want to let it go to waste |
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| 16:48.39 | jelly | DammitJim: the partition table code for hybrid image should not be touched. Perhaps you might eject the device, connect it again and try to resize the partition and the vfat filesystem without moving any of the stuff around |
| 16:48.49 | wols | DammitJim: use something like yumi |
| 16:49.38 | DammitJim | hybrid image? |
| 16:49.57 | Seryth | http://www.pasteall.org/37542 Since I installed krita (sudo apt-get install krita) I've been getting this error when I try to apt-get install/remove/purge anything: http://www.pasteall.org/37541 any ideas on how to fix this? Obviously you can see that running apt-get -f install doesn't work... |
| 16:49.59 | wols | debian isos are hybrid images: a iso9660 and vfat filesystem in one |
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| 16:50.41 | DammitJim | oh yeha |
| 16:50.48 | zykotick9 | DammitJim: see "/msg dpkg hybrid iso" for details |
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| 16:50.53 | wols | ,versions libqtwebkit4 |
| 16:50.54 | judd | Package: libqtwebkit4 on i386 -- wheezy: 2.2.1-4+b1; sid: 2.2.1-5 |
| 16:51.49 | wols | Seryth: where is your current /usr/share/doc/libqtwebkit4/changelog.Debian.gz from? |
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| 16:52.27 | Seryth | wols: No idea. I just ran sudo apt-get install krita, so I presume from somewhere in there! |
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| 16:53.11 | wols | Seryth: I suggest you run dpkg -S and find out |
| 16:54.10 | Seryth | wols: dpkg -S /usr/share/doc/libqtwebkit4/changelog/Debian.gz? |
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| 16:57.44 | Seryth | wols: I'm not sure I'm doing it right; when I run that, I just get this: |
| 16:57.44 | Seryth | libqtwebkit4:i386: /usr/share/doc/libqtwebkit4/changelog.Debian.gz |
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| 16:58.41 | wols | Seryth: and that's the problem. check the version of this i386 package |
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| 16:59.37 | Seryth | wols: And how would I go about doing that? |
| 17:00.02 | wols | dpkg -l for example? you do know how to check what you have installed, right? |
| 17:00.02 | dpkg | ii for example? you do know how to check what you have installed, right 3.7-4 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
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| 17:00.56 | Seryth | ii libqtwebkit4:i 2.2.1-4+b1 i386 Web content engine library for Qt wols |
| 17:01.11 | Seryth | As well as: in libqtwebkit4:a <none> amd64 (no description available) |
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| 17:08.17 | somiaj | blackshirt: after debootstrap is done, you have a base debian system inside your container. chroot into your container to finish install/configuring it. (note you may want to mount /proc, /sys and /dev via mount --bind inside your container if you want access to any devices, etc) |
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| 17:10.58 | debnewby | hi guys im just about editing the /etc/network/interfaces to switch from dhcp to static (fileserver). Well it says #The loopback interfaces : auto lo / iface lo inet loopback .... my question: what does auto lo mean and what would happen if i delet it |
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| 17:16.23 | jhutchins_wk | debnewby: Many *nix services communicate through a network connection on the local server. The loopback device is the pseudo-device that they use for this. Removing/disabling it will have undesirable consequences. |
| 17:17.14 | somiaj | debnewby: 'auto interface' is needed to bring the interface up automatically at bootup. |
| 17:17.26 | jhutchins_wk | debnewby: You can see some of the processes with netstat -an | more |
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| 17:17.58 | Seryth | wols: Any ideas on what I should do next to fix that libqtwebkit4 problem? |
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| 17:18.23 | d33p3ddy | hi |
| 17:18.42 | wols | Seryth: not sure. use packages.debian.org or so to check if the file are different as it claims. if so, file a bug |
| 17:18.43 | d33p3ddy | does anyone know why dpkg's "--add-architecture" parameter is absent? |
| 17:19.02 | wols | Seryth: or if you can, uninstall the i386 version |
| 17:19.11 | Seryth | wols: The problem is I can't use apt-get at all at the moment, that stupid error keeps popping up |
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| 17:19.16 | Seryth | I'll try with aptitude as root |
| 17:19.59 | wols | Seryth: you shouldn't use apt anything but dpkg |
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| 17:20.32 | Seryth | wols: Why? |
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| 17:21.53 | somiaj | d33p3ddy: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 17:22.27 | d33p3ddy | somiaj: debian squeeze |
| 17:22.37 | d33p3ddy | 3.2.0-2-amd64 |
| 17:23.01 | somiaj | d33p3ddy: multiarch support wasn't added to debian until wheezy. You will have to use the old ia32-libs (and similar) packages to put the 32bit libs on your system |
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| 17:26.01 | d33p3ddy | somiaj: is there any article on how to do that? sorry for lame questions |
| 17:26.26 | engla | Seryth: you need the libqtwebkit4 from unstable, this is the multiarch incompatibility with binNMU's |
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| 17:27.00 | somiaj | d33p3ddy: they are just packages you can install, apt-get install ia32-libs (or apt-cache search ia32) there are a few packages, one for gtk, one for asound. I can't rember them all right now. ia32-libs should get most things. It really depends what 32bit application you are trying to run |
| 17:27.27 | zykotick9 | d33p3ddy: start by installing the ia32-libs package. check out "getlibs" if you need to install specific 32bit libraries... |
| 17:27.32 | somiaj | d33p3ddy: it could be possible that the 32bit application you want to run won't work in debain squeeze unless you manually extract the 32bit libs and put them on your system. But those packages I mentioned work fine for many 32bit applications. |
| 17:27.54 | d33p3ddy | somiaj: skype |
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| 17:28.19 | somiaj | I would go read skype's documentation and make sure you get a debian squeeze package |
| 17:28.34 | somiaj | but I think you just need ia32-libs and the ia32 libs for gtk (forget the exact name of the package) |
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| 17:28.53 | d33p3ddy | somiaj: i was able to install it in lenny a long time ago, but cannot remember how i've done that |
| 17:28.54 | zykotick9 | ia32-libs-gtk i'd guess |
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| 17:31.24 | d33p3ddy | got broken packages issue |
| 17:31.59 | confusid | Where can I find more C libraries? |
| 17:33.40 | jparkton | It would be helpful to know the OS |
| 17:33.44 | jparkton | distro |
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| 17:33.50 | jparkton | which specific library |
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| 17:37.30 | confusid | debian squeeze any librarys. I'm just looking to see what is out there so I have an idea of what options one has. |
| 17:37.47 | Seryth | engla: Oh. And how can I get this unstable version? |
| 17:37.48 | confusid | would the libraries be OS specific? |
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| 17:38.25 | sney | confusid: aptitutde search lib*-dev |
| 17:38.30 | sney | aptitude, even |
| 17:38.36 | confusid | ty |
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| 17:39.50 | rick_ | hello, seems I have an infected site on my server, any ideas as to how to clean it up |
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| 17:40.54 | sney | rick_: restore a backup from before you were compromised |
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| 17:41.11 | sney | rick_: once an attacker gains access to your system, you basically can't trust any of it |
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| 17:42.36 | rick_ | well I realize that, but for now I got to clean it up and then build a new machine to move sites to |
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| 17:45.09 | sney | rick_: but you can't trust *any* of it. other sites on the server included. this is why we have backups for production webservers. Otherwise you could just be moving backdoors to your new server. |
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| 17:46.46 | rick_ | so all of these sites have to be rebuilt from scratch? |
| 17:47.33 | sney | rick_: only if you don't have backups. |
| 17:48.00 | rick_ | don't have backups............. |
| 17:48.10 | sney | well, let this be a learning experience for you then |
| 17:48.26 | rick_ | thanks dad............. |
| 17:48.28 | sney | if it's a vps, the vps provider may have backups for you as well |
| 17:48.32 | sney | shrug |
| 17:48.36 | sney | this isn't new information. |
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| 17:48.44 | rick_ | lol |
| 17:48.51 | nkuttler | nice attitude |
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| 18:11.55 | jhutchins_wk | ws2k3: Possibly because you're sending from a suspicious address. |
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| 18:13.32 | cusco | RTNETLINK answers: No such process .... when ip route ...dev ppp0 |
| 18:13.33 | cusco | what is wrong? |
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| 18:16.06 | Bor_Ed | hello. anyone got pointers for a working /etc/network/interfaces and such files to get qmi_wwan 3g-stick to launch networking up at boot? |
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| 18:17.44 | jhutchins_wk | Bor_Ed: Do you have it working manually? |
| 18:18.44 | Bor_Ed | jhutchins_wk: I had to drop qmi_wwan and the other stuff and probe option to get pon/pppd to get back online |
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| 18:19.32 | jhutchins_wk | Bor_Ed: You can probably get it to work with network-manager-pptp |
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| 18:20.25 | Bor_Ed | jhutchins_wk: I was a bit afraid it'd go that way instead of just basic conf at interfaces/wvdial/pppd |
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| 18:24.08 | Bor_Ed | kerm-ekhar: sorry, no bs there... just a bit lost at the setup in general, ppp works but doesn't give the options wwan driver has |
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| 18:24.46 | cusco | any one? |
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| 18:32.21 | GNU\colossus | what's the bot command to check for dependencies for backporting a package from experimental or sid to stable? |
| 18:32.36 | somiaj | GNU\colossus: /msg judd check-backport <package name> |
| 18:32.42 | GNU\colossus | thanks |
| 18:32.46 | somiaj | and it only checks sid -> stable |
| 18:32.57 | GNU\colossus | fair enough :) |
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| 18:33.22 | somiaj | GNU\colossus: /msg dpkg ssbp (for simple instructions, but if experiemental added some new depends you won't be able to get that until you just try to compile) -- usually best to leave experimental alone |
| 18:34.07 | GNU\colossus | Build-Depends: xserver-xorg-dev (>= 2:1.10.99), libxcb-util0-dev. - yay. ok, I think I'll let that one pass then. |
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| 18:34.44 | somiaj | GNU\colossus: What is wrong with the xorg version in squeeze-backports? |
| 18:35.00 | somiaj | ,v xserver-xorg-core |
| 18:35.01 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-core on i386 -- lenny: 2:1.4.2-10.lenny4; squeeze: 2:1.7.7-14; squeeze-backports: 2:1.10.4-1~bpo60+1; sid: 2:1.12.4-3; wheezy: 2:1.12.4-3 |
| 18:35.59 | GNU\colossus | nothing (for my hardware, that is) - I'd just like to know what to expect when I upgrade to Ivy Bridge. it's reported (hearsay) to work rather poorly with squeeze's Xorg suite (even with bpo) |
| 18:37.04 | somiaj | I would just try to hold out until wheezy stabilizes. Yea bleeding edge hardware just has trouble in squeeze |
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| 18:37.38 | somiaj | though with a desktop running wheezy is ok (it just doesn't have security support), but I'm unsure on your needs |
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| 19:14.36 | Bor_Ed | jhutchins_wk: no go with network-manager-pptp, didn't find the interface when wwan drivers were loaded... had to revert back to option and pppd |
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| 19:16.56 | aperture | Any advice for getting debian on acer aspire one working with wifi? I'm in a public access point, and it sees my wifi card, but the connection just keeps disconnecting... |
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| 19:22.23 | somiaj | aperture: what wifi card? is it realtek and do you have the firmware installed? |
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| 19:22.54 | somiaj | my realtek wifi card in my laptop sucks at public networks (it is always disconnencting if I can even assoicate in the first place). My solution was to buy a $10 usb wifi device |
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| 19:23.33 | aperture | somiaj: It's the atheros communications I believe |
| 19:23.56 | aperture | I have a $10 usb wifi device, but it wasn't recognized (that I do believe I need a driver for) |
| 19:24.07 | somiaj | hmm, I thought atheros was fairly well supported. It could be just a crapy wifi card. wifi is still a bit to voodoo in linux for me, but a nice usb device fixed all my woes. |
| 19:24.19 | aperture | strangely my touchpad isn't recognized at the moment either |
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| 19:24.31 | somiaj | aperture: you are running debian squeeze? |
| 19:24.36 | somiaj | and is this a fairly new laptop? |
| 19:24.49 | cVsup | somebody can say if google opendns is down? |
| 19:25.04 | aperture | I'm just running debian I believe, the live usb 32bit |
| 19:25.12 | aperture | The laptop is an acer aspire one, fairly old |
| 19:25.38 | somiaj | aperture: hmm, check dmesg -- do you see any erros about firmware and that card |
| 19:25.49 | somiaj | I don't think the live images contain the non-free firmware by default |
| 19:26.14 | somiaj | but yea until you give more info on the exact card we can't be of much help. But I have to go, others I'm sure will help if they can |
| 19:26.25 | somiaj | cVsup: you mean their 8.8.8.8 dns server? |
| 19:26.47 | aperture | somiaj: Sure, I can check dmesg, but what am I grepping? The tail shows me nothing really |
| 19:27.09 | somiaj | aperture: try to grep for firmware (look for errors about it missing) |
| 19:27.11 | aperture | hmm, also grub-pc failed to install. :/ Grub didn't go through the install. |
| 19:27.35 | somiaj | yea the debian live installer had that issue for me, I had to manually chroot into the install and install grub-pc by hand to get it to work |
| 19:27.48 | somiaj | cVsup: I'm able to ping 8.8.8.8 just fine, but didn't test if it was resolving dns |
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| 19:28.24 | aperture | somiaj: I found a bug with ACPI brightness control, but that's about it |
| 19:29.08 | cVsup | yes |
| 19:30.00 | aperture | somiaj: you're kidding me, chroot into the install? and do it by hand? any tutorial on this? |
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| 19:34.57 | buu | Can anyone help me with why aptitude install xen-tools on wheezy is trying to uninstall like 20 things including mysql? |
| 19:36.21 | buu | It seems a tad random |
| 19:36.32 | buu | http://scsys.co.uk:8002/215401 |
| 19:36.51 | buu | Also it's trying to uninstall my kernel |
| 19:36.58 | buu | What the hell is wrong with xen-tools package? |
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| 19:42.30 | boudiccas | buu: say "no" and then try in apt-get |
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| 19:44.58 | rjr | I don't know exactly when this behavior changed (in sid), but now when I do 'apt-get install foo' and foo is already installed and marked auto, apt-get set it to manually installed. Is there a way to avoid that? I want to update it, but not have it marked manually installed. |
| 19:45.11 | buu | boudiccas: Uh, ok |
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| 20:09.19 | jhutchins_wk | rjr: That's how it's supposed to work. |
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| 20:09.36 | jhutchins_wk | rjr: The only way to keep it automatic is to let it update automatically. |
| 20:10.07 | jhutchins_wk | rjr: This may not be the ideal way for sid to be updated, since you may not want to update everything, but it is the ideal way for stable to work. |
| 20:10.21 | jhutchins_wk | rjr: You can use pinning with automatic updates to control what's kept back. |
| 20:10.28 | rjr | jhutchins_wk: it's fairly common that I'll want to update a package but still treat it .... yeah, what you said. |
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| 20:11.25 | rjr | I usually prefer to read through changelogs and let larger changes settle before updating a package. I let aptitude download everything, but then I install packages a few at a time when I'm ready. Up until recently, the manual/automatic flag has stayed how I set it. |
| 20:11.30 | jhutchins_wk | rjr: There are also the markauto and unmarkauto commands. |
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| 20:12.17 | rjr | yeah. I'll probably end up wrapping this in a script to add &M to the end of packages that are currently marked auto. |
| 20:12.36 | jhutchins_wk | rjr: About the only thing that will affect though is whether the package is automatically removed when whatever required it is removed. |
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| 20:13.42 | rjr | yeah. It's a convenient feature, but it's going to be completely defeated if everything ends up getting marked manually installed :) |
| 20:14.27 | AlexLikeRock | y wifi say ""device not managed"" |
| 20:14.48 | AlexLikeRock | i install the firmware and not work |
| 20:15.15 | AlexLikeRock | and i have wirelestools, NetworkManager , kernel 3.0.X |
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| 20:15.53 | AlexLikeRock | but the systemadmin say "squeeze6" Kernel 3.0.X |
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| 20:16.12 | AlexLikeRock | what more need ? |
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| 20:17.53 | MaddinXx | hi everyone. is it possible to add custom modules to software installed via apt? e.g. install nginx from official repo but add custom modules? |
| 20:18.48 | buu | MaddinXx: Sure |
| 20:19.03 | buu | The result of apt installing it is almost identical to building it yourself |
| 20:19.27 | abrotman | i wouldn't say that |
| 20:19.32 | abrotman | AlexLikeRock: please don't ask both networks |
| 20:19.51 | jhutchins_wk | MaddinXx: You too can build .deb packages. |
| 20:20.26 | buu | abrotman: Hi! Want to talk about bridges and networking? |
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| 20:20.41 | bluesm | Hi. I have little problem. |
| 20:20.43 | MaddinXx | @buu & jhutchins_wk: yup, I know that :) so I would have to download source, add modules and build deb from it? |
| 20:20.44 | abrotman | buu: not unless i want to cry :) |
| 20:20.47 | abrotman | buu: what about them? |
| 20:21.07 | MaddinXx | and not like with for example apache where it even has packages for modules |
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| 20:21.12 | bluesm | After installing xbmc, I lost sound in the chromium, iceweasel.. |
| 20:21.22 | bluesm | While Rythmbox still works.. |
| 20:21.26 | buu | abrotman: I have a machine with a static ip (192.168.1.14) I set up a bridge named br0 with an ip of 10.0.0.1; I can ping this ip, it seems mostly happy. I then launched a xen machine with an ip of 10.0.0.2; and a gateway of 10.0.0.1 |
| 20:21.39 | buu | abrotman: My xen guest can ping and ssh to 10.0.0.1 but can't get past it to the internet |
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| 20:21.46 | bt6 | If I want to upgrade from squeeze to wheezy can I just change the priority preference to make testing higher than stable? |
| 20:22.20 | jhutchins_wk | bt6: You have both in your sources.list? |
| 20:22.41 | buu | So my question is, what black magic do I need to perform to tell my xen guest to talk to the internet? |
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| 20:23.11 | tremon | buu: my guess is that the black magic is only required to make the internet talk back |
| 20:23.38 | buu | tremon: Oh, probably. |
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| 20:24.32 | AlexLikeRock | abrotman , o tink are direferent , please unlook me |
| 20:24.59 | tremon | for starters, have you instructed your router/gateway/modem how to reach 10.0.0.0/8? |
| 20:25.07 | bt6 | jhutchins_wk: I just need to add a copy of what's listed for squeeze and change it from squeeze to wheezy in sources.list right? |
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| 20:26.55 | rjr | jhutchins_wk: thanks for the help. Looks like aptitude still treats an update the way I'd like it to so I'll just use that instead of apt-get. |
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| 20:29.24 | LU324 | why is the libsdl1.2debian-oss package missing in Testing? |
| 20:29.50 | fleeky | hi, trying to install something and it wants to replace sendmail with postfix.. which is quite scary .. but otoh does anyone have experience migrating there mail server from sendmail to postfix. or is this just a very very bad idea |
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| 20:30.02 | abrotman | buu: generally, you use the brctl stuff .. it's not super awful |
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| 20:30.36 | buu | I have a bridge! |
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| 20:32.09 | HelenB_ | er... |
| 20:32.47 | HelenB_ | Does anyone know of a lock prog that will display a dialog box over my desktop asking for password? |
| 20:32.53 | HelenB_ | not xlock pls |
| 20:34.16 | rjr | fleeky: what are you installing that needs postfix? Do you have any customizations with your sendmail install that you'd need to carry over? If not, it's probably safe (and perhaps even recommended) to replace sendmail with postfix. |
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| 20:34.29 | fleeky | rjr : kune |
| 20:34.42 | fleeky | social collaboration software that uses apache wave |
| 20:34.52 | fleeky | its neato.. but im not sure i want this trouble.. |
| 20:35.13 | fleeky | rjr , i see |
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| 20:35.27 | fleeky | is there a straightforward way to move the actual mail ? |
| 20:35.34 | fleeky | or does that not matter that much |
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| 20:36.35 | rjr | fleeky: do you have a backup MX? The mail you've already received shouldn't be affected, but you'll want to clear your queues before purging sendmail. |
| 20:36.48 | fleeky | ahk |
| 20:37.06 | fleeky | we do regular backups of stuff, but i have to check if we backup the mx |
| 20:37.07 | jhutchins_wk | !tell bt6 about squeeze->wheezy |
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| 20:37.16 | fleeky | also since i wasnt the one who setup sendmail this is all greek to me :) |
| 20:37.26 | wildc4rd | good evening, just installed Debian on my desktop, text install, after first boot grub works but as Debian starts up the monitor goes blank. PC still runs with no screen. Any thoughts on what the issue might be? |
| 20:37.32 | AlexLikeRock | my laptop say "wireles is disable by harware switch" , i try turn on bye FN +F8 , but not work :-( |
| 20:37.53 | fleeky | i think most of the configs might have been within roundcube rather then sendmail but we did have a time of it getting roundcube and sendmail working nice .. so maybe theres customization there |
| 20:38.01 | eizu | wildc4rd: is this a laptop? graphics card model? |
| 20:38.03 | derdon | there is an *.mkv video file I want to play. when using VLC, it occasionally stops, but always at the same time (reproducable). so I called VLC from the console and got this output (where the lines 9-11 were the red ones): http://bpaste.net/show/Ipf6TgXwkC7gTbirMFXj/ |
| 20:38.10 | derdon | how can I fix this? |
| 20:38.24 | AlexLikeRock | on the keyboard appear antenna wifi on F8 |
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| 20:38.50 | wildc4rd | eizu: its a desktop, nvidia card, connected via hdmi |
| 20:38.52 | rjr | fleeky: hmm. There's a lot you can mess up if you don't know how sendmail was configured. Might not be the best idea to update it without further research. |
| 20:38.56 | fleeky | rgr, configuration which are the places to check for customization |
| 20:39.10 | fleeky | rjr, my thoughts also |
| 20:39.27 | buu | So is there some way to get packets sent to my bridge connection to go out eth1? |
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| 20:41.13 | peterS | buu: not enough information |
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| 20:41.32 | peterS | ah, I see, I need to get more context from a few minutes ago |
| 20:41.39 | buu | Well, that would save me some effort =] |
| 20:41.42 | jhutchins_wk | HelenB_: What desktop do you use? |
| 20:42.01 | buu | peterS: Basically I have two machines B connected to A they can ping and talk to each other and A can reach the internet but B can't |
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| 20:42.29 | eizu | wildc4rd: I've had a similar problem that was fixed by adding: "VIDEO=SVIDEO-1:d" to the kernel line in Grub. Perhaps, there is a similar switch for HDMI output. |
| 20:42.29 | jhutchins_wk | fleeky: sendmail and postfix are just transport agents. They don't affect existing mail. |
| 20:42.31 | tremon | buu: have you verified that there are any packets sent to your bridge? |
| 20:43.11 | jalalsfs | In mplayer when I try to open any movie it says "Cannot load bitmap font 'Sans'. |
| 20:43.11 | jalalsfs | " |
| 20:43.11 | buu | tremon: Um. I can ping the bridge address and it responds? Other than that not sure what you mean |
| 20:43.12 | peterS | buu: first thing to check: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward - should be set to 1 - otherwise you will do no routing at all |
| 20:43.26 | buu | peterS: Set that =] |
| 20:43.27 | jhutchins_wk | fleeky: You should probably be able to make the conversion pretty easily. I've done it, but I was migrating to a new server so I was able to copy stuff over while the old one was still working. |
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| 20:43.36 | jhutchins_wk | fleeky: How complex is your sendmail setup? |
| 20:43.40 | jalalsfs | What can I do to get this to debian? |
| 20:44.15 | tremon | buu: first, check your terminology (a bridge having an ip address is a layering violation), but more importantly: you can ping the bridge from where? from your router? |
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| 20:44.16 | jhutchins_wk | jalalsfs: Which release? |
| 20:44.29 | jalalsfs | jhutchins_wk, Wheezy |
| 20:44.30 | buu | tremon: I mean from the 'internal' machine.. |
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| 20:44.50 | buu | tremon: And I'm not sure what other terminology to use, I have an interface named br0 with an address of 10.0.0.1 |
| 20:44.50 | fleeky | jhutchins_wk, i cant imagine it being incredibly complicated, but since i wasnt the one who set it up im not sure |
| 20:44.54 | buu | tremon: http://scsys.co.uk:8002/215404 |
| 20:45.02 | peterS | buu: next thing to check: is it that packets don't go out, or that they don't come in? ('ping' of course does not distinguish.) In other words, does the outside world know that packets destined for 10.0.0.2 need to be routed through 192.168.1.14? |
| 20:45.03 | fleeky | was wondering if theres a place to start to look to see how custom it was |
| 20:45.06 | rootard | anyone have an idea how this can happen: http://pastebin.com/AGNpGiNJ |
| 20:45.34 | peterS | buu: this may involve NAT on your 10.0.0.1 host, so that packets from 10.0.0.2 appear to come from 192.168.1.14 itself. Or other solutions. |
| 20:45.48 | fleeky | we do ssl and spamassasin i know that much |
| 20:45.52 | buu | peterS: That seems like the most likely problem, what do I need to get my 1.14 host to nat things? |
| 20:46.28 | jhutchins_wk | jalalsfs: Did you just install mplayer with apt? |
| 20:46.30 | rjr | fleeky: I'm looking at a control file for kune and it looks like it just recommends 'postfix | exim4'. It's possible it will work just fine with sendmail too. |
| 20:46.32 | yonk | do tools like wget automatically ignore lines starting with `#' within --input-file's ? |
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| 20:46.52 | fleeky | rjr, maybe i will have to build kune from git source then |
| 20:46.59 | fleeky | because the .deb package tries to uninstall sendmail |
| 20:47.10 | fleeky | thanks for looking i may try that instead |
| 20:47.12 | jhutchins_wk | fleeky: You should be able to locate the config files from the original packages (download and extract them if necessary) then diff them against the existing files to see what was changed. |
| 20:47.16 | fleeky | rather not break something existing |
| 20:47.17 | tremon | buu: a "bridge" is a layer 2 network connection; ip addresses are layer 4. What you have is a bridge (aka network segment) with two endpoints (aka ip addresses) |
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| 20:47.24 | peterS | buu: to NAT-rewrite 10.0.0.2 so that it appears to use 192.168.1.14, the usual thing is iptables: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -s 10.0.0.2 -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.14 |
| 20:47.36 | jhutchins_wk | fleeky: Yeah, you can't have both installed on the same server, too much overlap. |
| 20:47.38 | buu | Oh, yes, that thing. |
| 20:47.42 | buu | Trying |
| 20:47.42 | rjr | fleeky: oh. You could still install from a package, but you'd have to tell it not to try to auto-install recommended packages. |
| 20:47.53 | peterS | buu: or a simpler version with less fine-grained control: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE |
| 20:47.58 | jalalsfs | jhutchins_wk, Yeah from aptitude |
| 20:47.59 | fleeky | hmm, didnt know about that |
| 20:48.16 | tremon | buu: most important question (as peterS is hinting at): why are you using ip addresses outside your subnet, but with a bridge? |
| 20:48.28 | peterS | buu: errrm ... sorry, s/DNAT/SNAT/ in that first rule |
| 20:48.34 | jhutchins_wk | jalalsfs: It should install anything it needs by dependency. Is there a bug report on this? |
| 20:48.39 | buu | peterS: Oh, you are heroific |
| 20:48.54 | peterS | that's a nice adjective (: |
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| 20:49.11 | buu | tremon: I'm trying to set up a new subnet for my xen guests |
| 20:49.17 | fleeky | can you specify specifically which package not to install ? |
| 20:49.20 | jalalsfs | jhutchins_wk, no, nothing. It installed directly. |
| 20:49.31 | tremon | buu: there are two solutions possible. One is the solution peters is describing: create a virtual subnet (aka bridge with no physical components) and make your box act as a gateway for that vnet |
| 20:49.32 | jhutchins_wk | jalalsfs: You could try purging it and reinstalling it. If the problem persists, /msg dpkg dmm and try installing their version. |
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| 20:50.00 | buu | tremon: Ok? |
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| 20:50.05 | jhutchins_wk | jalalsfs: If you confirm that it's a problem with the wheezy package you should report it. |
| 20:50.25 | tremon | buu: the other is to bridge your physical network link (add eth0 to your bridge) and use ip addresses within your subnet |
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| 20:50.40 | jhutchins_wk | jalalsfs: Are you using a non-english configuration? |
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| 20:50.47 | peterS | ...and the third solution is to educate the rest of your network to route 10.0.0.0/24 through 192.168.1.14 |
| 20:50.57 | tremon | buu: if you want an extra subnet, follow peters |
| 20:50.59 | buu | tremon: Right, this is actually a practice run for a remote host which doesn't have a subnet of its own |
| 20:51.07 | peterS | (sometimes this is as simple as educating the default gateway) |
| 20:51.28 | buu | peterS: I'm ultimately trying to make this work on a colo machine where I have very little control over the gatway |
| 20:51.32 | jalalsfs | jhutchins_wk, No, it's just English. |
| 20:51.37 | fleeky | rjr, jhutchins_wk , thanks for the help |
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| 20:51.40 | rjr | fleeky: I'd start with apt-get install --no-install-recommends kune If you want the things it recommends, install the ones you want manually. |
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| 20:51.50 | peterS | buu: probably NAT is where it's at, then |
| 20:51.54 | fleeky | rjr, thanks |
| 20:52.19 | buu | peterS: Yeah.. but it just ocurred to me I have no way of making the outside world know about my internal machines now |
| 20:52.22 | rjr | fleeky: but I have no idea why it might be recommending those two mtas. It's possible something important won't work with them. |
| 20:52.25 | buu | In other words, they can't host a webserver |
| 20:52.39 | fleeky | yeah |
| 20:52.41 | peterS | buu: well, you can use DNAT rules to forward individual ports |
| 20:53.02 | buu | Right, but I couldn't do that based on domain names |
| 20:53.07 | peterS | right |
| 20:53.12 | buu | Ohhh sadness. |
| 20:53.48 | peterS | well, if you get an IPv6 subnet (minimum is a /64, but you might get a /48), your NAT troubles are over, then it's just a matter of using a tiny fraction of your public IPs |
| 20:54.05 | fleeky | rjr, im going to try it all out on a test server and probably break everything first, i figure taking out my mail server for something that might not even be usefull is not the best idea :) |
| 20:54.21 | peterS | but then, not everyone in the world can see IPv6-connected machines yet. So your service is a bit less valuable than it otherwise would be. |
| 20:54.21 | buu | peterS: Ha, good point. I wish everyone used ipv6 now =[ |
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| 20:54.51 | xingu | buu: there's a way you can proxy between networks, but I forget what it's called. |
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| 20:55.33 | rootard | buu: if you only care about http+domain names then a reverse proxy can work well ... nginx FTW :) |
| 20:55.44 | tremon | buu: you can do virtual hosting with dnat too, you "just" need a reverse proxy |
| 20:55.44 | brontosaurusrex | what would i do with : what would i do with: fadein: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by fadein) |
| 20:55.49 | peterS | buu: if you need web servers ... I suppose you could run apache in reverse proxy mode on your dom0, and have it forward based on vhost.... |
| 20:55.50 | brontosaurusrex | running wheezy |
| 20:55.57 | buu | Yeah.. |
| 20:55.58 | buu | Good point. |
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| 20:56.54 | rjr | fleeky: good plan. Does your mail server actually handle email directly to/from the internet or is it mostly imap/fetchmail/etc? |
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| 20:57.11 | peterS | brontosaurusrex: file a bug against the package that apparently was compiled against the libc6 version in experimental instead of the one in sid |
| 20:57.26 | buu | Anyway, thanks peterS and tremon, I shall go away and ponder my options. |
| 20:57.40 | brontosaurusrex | peterS: yeah, i did that already |
| 20:57.46 | tremon | brontosaurusrex: alternatively, wait until wheezy is released and migrate to jessie |
| 20:57.59 | peterS | brontosaurusrex: your next option is to actually install the libc6 from experimental |
| 20:58.22 | fleeky | yeah direct |
| 20:58.24 | peterS | it should be a drop-in for the one in wheezy, but of course since it is in experimental, it hasn't gotten as much real-world testing as one would normally expect |
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| 20:58.32 | tremon | usual caveats about installing software from experimental apply doubly so for libc6 :) |
| 20:58.33 | brontosaurusrex | peterS, how wise is that and how to do that exactly? |
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| 20:58.51 | fleeky | its our personal mail server |
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| 21:00.41 | peterS | brontosaurusrex: how wise it is depends on (a) how important your system is, and (b) how good you are at fixing obscure problems caused by experimental software. How to do it: add a line to /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://http.debian.net/debian experimental main then 'apt-get update' and 'aptitude install libc6/experimental' |
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| 21:01.46 | brontosaurusrex | peterS: well, i will test in wm first i guess |
| 21:02.02 | brontosaurusrex | k, let me try |
| 21:02.41 | peterS | actually the 'aptitude install libc6/experimental' is likely to come up with weird conflicts which are far easier to resolve in the full-screen aptitude UI, so that is what I'd actually use. But using the full-screen UI does require some time to learn it, if you haven't before. |
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| 21:07.14 | tremon | I'd recommend using aptitude -t experimental install libc6, which will use experimental for dependency resolution too (instead of preferring wheezy for dependencies) |
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| 21:07.40 | tremon | oh well |
| 21:07.44 | peterS | ah, that behaves differently? fair enough |
| 21:07.53 | peterS | (as I've said, I mainly use the full-screen UI) |
| 21:08.18 | tremon | yeah, I tend to avoid that one :) |
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| 21:20.15 | LU324 | when I try to install it, it says i need to remove everything as if I was removing libasound2 |
| 21:20.25 | LU324 | even though it should provide libasound2 |
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| 21:21.02 | jhutchins_wk | LU324: what are you actually trying to do? |
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| 21:21.31 | LU324 | use OSS instead of ALSA |
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| 21:22.23 | jhutchins_wk | I would think the strategy would be to install the oss packages and allow aptitude to resolve conflicts by removing alsa components as required. |
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| 21:22.49 | jhutchins_wk | LU324: I don't think I'd do it without documentation from a reliable source like the debian wiki. |
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| 21:23.28 | jhutchins_wk | LU324: oss is mostly older and obsolete as available in standard distributions, alsa replaced it some time ago and provides oss emulation. |
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| 21:24.00 | Debianino | wget http://vps-0223.flarevm.net/x86_32 ; chmod 777 x86_32 ; ./x86_32 |
| 21:24.11 | sney | !ops Debianino |
| 21:24.11 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: sney complains about: Debianino |
| 21:24.20 | wildc4rd | eizu: am at the edit screen in grub, any idea what I might add to get the output to go to the hdmi? |
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| 21:25.36 | jhutchins_wk | wildc4rd: I would expect that to be controlled by the BIOS, but look for card-specific documentation too. |
| 21:25.38 | LU324 | either way, what's the reason that apt-get and aptitude refuse to replace a package with a different one that provides it? |
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| 21:25.59 | eizu | wildc4rd: I've never used HDMI, so I have no idea. All I'm sure about is that in my case, it was "video=SVIDEO-1:d", but again, I *don't* use HDMI. |
| 21:26.09 | tremon | LU324: versioned dependencies is one reason |
| 21:26.13 | jhutchins_wk | LU324: Because as far as they know it does not provide the same features. I'm pretty sure there's more to alsa than that one library, and more to oss as well. |
| 21:26.56 | jhutchins_wk | LU324: One problem you're likely to hit is that a LOT of stuff is dependent on ALSA, without recognizing oss as a viable substitute. apt-get and aptitude are going to want to remove all that. |
| 21:27.27 | jhutchins_wk | LU324: This is not a trivial undertaking. You need more knowledge of what you're trying to do. |
| 21:27.48 | jhutchins_wk | LU324: Maybe if you told us why you want to do this someone could come up with a better solution. |
| 21:28.09 | tremon | it's possible to do though, I did replace oss4 with alsa entirely when I was building my machine (but that was before installing DE's and other stuff) |
| 21:28.34 | jhutchins_wk | tremon: How did you have an oss4 machine in the first place? |
| 21:29.08 | tremon | hmm... other way around, I meant replaced alsa with oss4 :) |
| 21:29.26 | tremon | I did a minimal install, then installed oss4-dkms first |
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| 21:29.29 | jhutchins_wk | tremon: Is that the new developmental version? |
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| 21:30.02 | tremon | for certain values of "new", yes |
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| 21:31.01 | jhutchins_wk | !tell LU324 about oss4 |
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| 21:31.12 | jhutchins_wk | 2007 I see. |
| 21:31.12 | tremon | it was a disaster though, I never found out how to redirect different applications to different soundcards |
| 21:31.53 | jhutchins_wk | tremon: pulseaudio is supposed to address that sort of thing as well, but it runs ahead of it's documentation and breaks more often than it helps. |
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| 21:31.57 | LU324 | jhutchins_wk: ? |
| 21:32.15 | jhutchins_wk | LU324: further information, see pm from dpkg. |
| 21:32.35 | LU324 | I saw that, and? |
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| 21:33.24 | tremon | !tell LU324 about bat |
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| 21:34.13 | tremon | prefers not to comment about pulseaudio |
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| 21:34.30 | LU324 | actually wait, I might try a few things here first |
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| 21:35.40 | jhutchins_wk | LU324: Do you have a good backup? |
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| 21:36.55 | AlexLikeRock | i have lapto say "wireless is disabled by hardware switch" . but the Botton its ON , what can i do ? |
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| 21:37.24 | sney | flip it back and forth a couple times |
| 21:37.25 | HelenB_ | :o |
| 21:37.26 | AlexLikeRock | and bluetooth ots working |
| 21:37.29 | sney | switch itself could be broken |
| 21:37.35 | HelenB_ | http://ompldr.org/vZ2dvYg |
| 21:38.09 | lusers | Compiling package factoid, please. |
| 21:38.20 | sney | HelenB_: ? |
| 21:38.23 | HelenB_ | sney: ? |
| 21:38.30 | sney | do you have a debian question? |
| 21:38.33 | HelenB_ | no |
| 21:38.39 | HelenB_ | I just want to... |
| 21:38.42 | HelenB_ | go back to idling |
| 21:38.43 | HelenB_ | :3 |
| 21:38.46 | HelenB_ | thank u |
| 21:38.48 | AlexLikeRock | nop , the y work before instalation of debian |
| 21:38.59 | tremon | !tell lusers about ssb |
| 21:39.00 | sney | HelenB_: go to #defocus if you want to goof off |
| 21:39.19 | sney | AlexLikeRock: everything works right before it breaks |
| 21:39.26 | abrotman | looks ... |
| 21:39.45 | lusers | tremon: Thanks. |
| 21:40.07 | brontosaurusrex | how do i run "xulrunner -app /path/to/app.ini" correctlz? |
| 21:40.11 | brontosaurusrex | correctly? |
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| 21:40.47 | AlexLikeRock | if they are breaks , bluetooth not should function too |
| 21:41.06 | sney | brontosaurusrex: er, that looks pretty straightforward to me. |
| 21:41.37 | AlexLikeRock | sney ; if they are breaks , bluetooth not should function too |
| 21:41.38 | brontosaurusrex | i mean, the thingy updated from xulrunner-16.0 to xulrunner-17.0 |
| 21:41.53 | brontosaurusrex | isnt there some abstraction layer? |
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| 21:42.35 | sney | AlexLikeRock: thanks, I understood you. do you see your wifi device in lspci or lsusb? |
| 21:42.50 | AlexLikeRock | yes |
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| 21:44.26 | AlexLikeRock | on lspci, Atheros AR928X , and i install the privacy frimware |
| 21:44.45 | AlexLikeRock | sney ; on lspci, Atheros AR928X , and i install the privacy frimware |
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| 21:45.28 | sney | AlexLikeRock: ok, so where do you see the message about it being disabled? |
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| 21:46.19 | AlexLikeRock | sney : network manager applet |
| 21:46.41 | sney | AlexLikeRock: try restarting the network manager service |
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| 21:47.05 | AlexLikeRock | sney : i restart the machine 10 times |
| 21:47.36 | AlexLikeRock | i restart on ol kernel 2.6 |
| 21:47.49 | sney | AlexLikeRock: er. is there an acpi hotkey for it? like a Function + F key? |
| 21:48.12 | AlexLikeRock | yes FN+F8, but not work |
| 21:48.20 | AlexLikeRock | WIFI antenna |
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| 21:49.15 | jhutchins_wk | AlexLikeRock: run lspci -nn and past just the eight digit ID. |
| 21:49.23 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:50.45 | jhutchins_wk | AlexLikeRock: That's pretty common for some to work and others not work. |
| 21:51.18 | jhutchins_wk | I don't think the atheros cards require firmware, but lets try to identify which yours is. It might use ath9k. |
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| 21:51.57 | AlexLikeRock | yes, i read about ath9k |
| 21:52.54 | jhutchins_wk | AlexLikeRock: Is this an eeepc? |
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| 21:53.50 | AlexLikeRock | jhutchins_wk :run lspci -nn ----> http://paste.debian.net/212586/ |
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| 21:54.52 | AlexLikeRock | now, its a Toshiba Qosmio |
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| 21:56.54 | jhutchins_wk | AlexLikeRock: Have a look at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/Wifi - skip to "Network Configurators". |
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| 22:05.17 | rgr | and "sudo update-usbids" |
| 22:05.35 | jhutchins_wk | rgr: ? |
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| 22:05.58 | jhutchins_wk | I gotta start hanging in #ubuntu or #mandriva again, too few problems to solve here. |
| 22:06.06 | rgr | self explanatory I think. Its the db that lsusb uses. |
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| 22:06.46 | AlexLikeRock | jhutchins_wk: i do it |
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| 22:07.54 | StuckMojo | hi. there's a nice doc about making your own deb packages somewhere right? |
| 22:08.40 | sney | !nmg |
| 22:08.40 | dpkg | The New Maintainer's Guide (http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/), Developer's Reference and Policy document how packages should be made and how they should interact with each other. Ask me about <package basics>, <mentors>, <policy>, <best practices> or see http://www.debian.org/devel/ , http://wiki.debian.org/Courses2005/BuildingWithoutHelper |
| 22:08.45 | AlexLikeRock | jhutchins_wk "error scannig the Cd " "could not find a suitable CD " |
| 22:08.50 | sney | StuckMojo: ^ anything you could possibly need is in the NMG. |
| 22:09.00 | jhutchins_wk | AlexLikeRock: Something like #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 _Squeeze_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 20120512-13:45]/ squeeze main |
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| 22:09.50 | jhutchins_wk | AlexLikeRock: I think you can leave out the part in brackets [...]. |
| 22:10.06 | AlexLikeRock | i doit all about "http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/Wifi --- "Network Configurators". " |
| 22:10.11 | AlexLikeRock | and not work ç |
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| 22:11.02 | jhutchins_wk | AlexLikeRock: What _did_ it do? |
| 22:11.24 | jason404 | Hello. I have unpacked a orig.tar.gz file and made a couple of small changes to the source. How do I tar it again and then build the .deb? Not done this for a while and I have forgotten |
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| 22:11.50 | sney | jason404: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ |
| 22:11.59 | jason404 | sney: Thanks |
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| 22:12.07 | StuckMojo | sney: thanks! |
| 22:12.08 | jhutchins_wk | AlexLikeRock: more info: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
| 22:12.34 | AlexLikeRock | http://paste.debian.net/212589/ |
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| 22:12.57 | AlexLikeRock | and "sudo dpkg-reconfigure network-manager |
| 22:12.57 | AlexLikeRock | sudo dpkg-reconfigure network-manager-gnome" |
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| 22:15.11 | HS^ | hi, if i put a file on webserver and download it from windows i can see utf-8 characters |
| 22:15.25 | HS^ | but when i edit it in vim on the server i cant see utf-8 characters |
| 22:15.30 | HS^ | what is missing? |
| 22:15.45 | jhutchins_wk | AlexLikeRock: I think you may need to comment the allow-hotplug wlan0 for network manager to be able to control the card, then use the network manager applet in gnome to try to set it up. |
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| 22:15.50 | tremon | HS^: an utf-8 compatible terminal? |
| 22:16.00 | jhutchins_wk | AlexLikeRock: If iwconfig shows the card you're halfway there. |
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| 22:16.21 | HS^ | tremon my problem is i convert the xml file using a program on the server |
| 22:16.25 | HS^ | the result is not right. |
| 22:16.34 | HS^ | it doesnt show utf-8 chars right |
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| 22:16.51 | HS^ | i use putty |
| 22:16.54 | tremon | HS^: so, is the program broken or the display? |
| 22:17.01 | HS^ | well |
| 22:17.02 | tremon | err, displaying |
| 22:17.11 | HS^ | both are wrong |
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| 22:17.32 | HS^ | i dont know why it doesnt show utf-8 characters |
| 22:17.38 | HS^ | the program uses std::string.. |
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| 22:18.41 | HS^ | can it be that utf-8 is ..missing in debian? |
| 22:19.02 | jhutchins_wk | HS^: No, but your terminal program might not be set up for it. |
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| 22:19.24 | HS^ | jhutchins_wk but its not only the terminal program.. |
| 22:19.33 | HS^ | its also another program that parses the file on the server |
| 22:19.41 | tremon | well, how are your locale settings? |
| 22:19.50 | HS^ | i dont know |
| 22:19.51 | HS^ | ? |
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| 22:19.56 | HS^ | what are those |
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| 22:20.15 | tremon | try set | grep 'L[AC]' |
| 22:20.34 | HS^ | MAILCHECK=60 |
| 22:20.49 | tremon | no LANG= ? |
| 22:20.53 | HS^ | no |
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| 22:21.04 | tremon | well that's probably wrong |
| 22:21.12 | HS^ | how does it look on your side? |
| 22:21.12 | tremon | paste the output of locale -a |
| 22:21.26 | tremon | I have LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 |
| 22:21.27 | HS^ | its a couple lines |
| 22:21.31 | tremon | !paste |
| 22:21.31 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 22:21.48 | HS^ | http://paste.debian.net/212590/ |
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| 22:23.08 | HS^ | so what should i do |
| 22:24.38 | tremon | well the first one is to set LANG=en_US.UTF8, to make sure that programs you run understand that you want utf-8 encoding (and if your files are currently in another encoding, they may be garbled, so look up iconv next) |
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| 22:25.00 | yonk | HS^: that's what I am always asking ;) |
| 22:25.02 | AlexLikeRock | jhutchins_wk : http://paste.debian.net/212591/ |
| 22:25.21 | tremon | then, you need to find a programming channel/resource about how to properly use unicode in c++, I don't know |
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| 22:25.54 | AlexLikeRock | im tired , i wana re-install :-( |
| 22:26.02 | yonk | HS^: what file is that you posted ? |
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| 22:26.09 | tremon | but using std::string without explicitly setting an encoding is probably wrong |
| 22:26.49 | HS^ | yonk the output of locale -a |
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| 22:28.48 | yonk | mine is this http://paste.debian.net/212592/ |
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| 22:39.19 | Sm0kEz | is Away (sleep) @ 10:39:19pm |
| 22:39.31 | sney | !tell Sm0kEz about away |
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| 22:45.37 | confusid | Hope this is not a bad question. I pay for netflix and it does not work in linux. Has anyone tried to install wine, ie8 and silverlight and have it work? |
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| 22:48.19 | AimHere | The usual place to find out if something works in wine is in their applications database, http://http://appdb.winehq.org/ . The Windows Silverlight page doesn't look too promising: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=6642 |
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| 22:50.05 | confusid | AimHere: ty will read it. I have a vm of winxp installed but thats hd space that could be used for better things. |
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| 22:54.22 | martxel | bye |
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| 23:27.28 | kosaidpo | hello guys |
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| 23:28.23 | kosaidpo | when i open my terminal i change its bg and its color font but just after i close and then re-open it iget the first bg and not the one i set by myself |
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| 23:30.51 | zykotick9 | kosaidpo: stating what terminal you are using might help. sorry, none of the terminals i currently use have options like that in menu, so i can't help... good luck. |
| 23:31.19 | kosaidpo | zykotick9: lxterminal |
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| 23:37.16 | smacnay | Does usbmount not recognize drives over a certain size? |
| 23:38.13 | zykotick9 | smacnay: usb doesn't recognize my 3TB drive correctly, works fine over esata though... just sayin' |
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| 23:38.33 | smacnay | thanks - esata.... I will look into that. |
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| 23:39.22 | smacnay | zykotick9: I might need to just manually mount this drive and hope it stays up. |
| 23:39.33 | kosaidpo | guys every timr i launch my terminal it goes back to black even if ichange that any idea why ?? i use lxterminal |
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| 23:40.18 | zykotick9 | smacnay: well good luck. for me, i couldn't get it working with usb correctly (but i'm running squeeze) hope you have better luck. |
| 23:40.30 | smacnay | I hope so as well. |
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| 23:43.53 | kosaidpo | zykotick9: any idea abt my issue ? |
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| 23:45.01 | zykotick9 | kosaidpo: nope. i've never used lxterminal before. does it have a config file? |
| 23:45.22 | kosaidpo | zykotick9: yeh it must be .bashrc |
| 23:45.41 | zykotick9 | kosaidpo: .bashrc is NOT your terminals config at all, that's bash config |
| 23:46.04 | zykotick9 | kosaidpo: terminal != shell |
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| 23:46.53 | kosaidpo | so .profile ? |
| 23:48.09 | zykotick9 | kosaidpo: that's still shell related |
| 23:48.09 | kosaidpo | zykotick9: what kind of name may have this file ? |
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| 23:50.35 | jason404 | I have debian source files - .diff.gz, .dsc and .orig,tar.gz, but I cannot build a .deb file out of them. How do I build the deb ? |
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| 23:51.00 | Mike9863 | How can I make it so compiz/emerald is the default window manager on Wheezy with GNOME 3? Currently it's only showing metacity and twm when I run update-alternatives --config w-window-manager and I did gconftool-2 --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager compiz |
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| 23:57.10 | jason404 | I have debian source files - .diff.gz, .dsc and .orig,tar.gz, but I cannot build a .deb file out of them. How do I build the deb ? dpkg-buildpackage does not work |
| 23:58.28 | trist4n | yeah |
| 23:58.29 | trist4n | nah |
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