| 00:00.06 | streuner_ | nkuttler: what do you mean by blind/disabled? |
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| 00:00.55 | streuner_ | nkuttler: oh, i guess, there is one ML/channel |
| 00:01.20 | nkuttler | streuner_: well i'd like to talk to blind users and was afraid there's nothing better than the accessibility list |
| 00:01.26 | streuner_ | nkuttler: as far as i know Debian has a project about it |
| 00:02.51 | streuner_ | nkuttler: just ask in #debian-devel, they are actually alive... |
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| 00:03.03 | streuner_ | nkuttler: they should know more about it |
| 00:03.17 | nkuttler | streuner_: sounds like a plan |
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| 00:04.52 | streuner_ | nkuttler: not really, i heard about a project in Debian about people with handicaps, thats all |
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| 00:07.06 | mmnicolas | there's an accessibility mailing list |
| 00:07.50 | mmnicolas | no, there isnt |
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| 00:08.20 | nkuttler | sure there is, http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-accessibility/ |
| 00:08.22 | mmnicolas | oh yes, http://lists.debian.org/debian-accessibility/ |
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| 00:16.32 | epitamizor | i got issue with program expecting libs in /usr/lib64 but the libs are actually spread across two folders, /usr/lib and /usr/x86_64-linux-gnu and it is not working |
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| 00:17.50 | wols | epitamizor: use symlinks? |
| 00:18.07 | epitamizor | tried that theres too many |
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| 00:33.52 | jgiorgi | any relatively simple way to execute scripts after connecting/disconnecting from a network when using network manager? |
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| 01:02.35 | pbxbrian | jgiorgi: put them in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/ and if-post-down.d/ and make them executable. You can also put instructions in the interfaces file to execute when the network comes up and goes back down. |
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| 01:04.53 | brady1 | hey guys, i was wondering if anyone could tell me if gnome 3.6 can run on debian v4 ? |
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| 01:06.40 | jgiorgi | pbxbrian: thanks, i didnt think network-manager executed those scripts but it appears dispatcher.d has been updated, now know anything about ipv6? i've got a functional tunnel (can ping6 to addresses or domains) but firefox isnt reaching any ipv6-only hosts and test-ipv6.com still fails |
| 01:07.11 | mmnicolas | brady1: unlikely |
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| 01:45.00 | eft | when you add dotdeb packages to your sources list do you have to remove the references to debian.org and its mirrors? |
| 01:46.08 | wols | !dotdeb |
| 01:46.08 | dpkg | http://dotdeb.org/ is an unofficial package repository with emphasis on the <LAMP> solution stack, unsupported in #debian. To get support, read http://www.dotdeb.org/2012/08/24/how-to-post-useful-bug-reports/ and report any issues to https://github.com/gplessis/dotdeb-php5/issues . Ask me about <dotdeb alternatives>. |
| 01:46.19 | mmnicolas | wow, I wasnt even aware there was a need for that |
| 01:46.36 | wols | eft: you don't need or what to remove debian mirrors from your sources.list |
| 01:46.50 | wols | eft: and it's a bad idea as you can see to use any dotdeb packages at all |
| 01:46.54 | sakax | i tried to create a bootable usb stick with dd |
| 01:47.18 | sakax | i select usb while booting but it goes straight to grub afterwards :s |
| 01:47.22 | sakax | any ideas? |
| 01:47.30 | eft | wols: how do you suggest I upgrade php to 5.3.10+ ? |
| 01:47.40 | wols | ,versions php5 |
| 01:47.41 | judd | Package: php5 on i386 -- lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny16; lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny16; squeeze-proposed-updates: 5.3.3-7+squeeze13; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze13; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze14; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze14; wheezy: 5.4.4-9; sid: 5.4.4-10; experimental: 5.4.9-2; experimental: 5.4.9-4 |
| 01:48.47 | eft | nothing in between 5.3.3 and 5.4? |
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| 01:49.08 | wols | eft: either backport it yourself or check snapshots |
| 01:49.19 | mmnicolas | sakax: file/device is corrupted |
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| 01:51.21 | eft | wols: ok, tx for the advice |
| 01:51.59 | wols | problem with dotdeb is, they certainly fsck up your debian installation, the choices I mentioned only maybe do it |
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| 02:00.38 | akurczyk | hello, i have recently installed apache2 on my debian 6 vps. i have coppied the default vhost config and saved it as 001-h1f.e00.eu. i have created an user called h1f.e00.eu, created a folder, and uploaded there some files. when i'am opening this vhost webpage - h1f.e00.eu it is showing me the default (000) vhost page rather than h1f.e00.eu vhost (001) page. it is my vhost config: http://pastebin.com/Bz4yaP3g. did i made some mistake in it? |
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| 02:03.04 | mmnicolas | akurczyk: try using mod_userdir |
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| 02:04.18 | akurczyk | mmnicolas: i don't want to do this: h1f.e00.eu/~olo but h1f.e00.eu for 1 site, jkpg.eu, abc.e00.eu etc for others. |
| 02:04.53 | mmnicolas | I have to agree that would be nicer |
| 02:05.58 | akurczyk | i have configured that on centos many times but on debian it isn't working. every config from sites-enabled is included to apache2.conf. :( |
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| 02:08.25 | sney | akurczyk: since you copied the configs from a different machine, make sure the permissions are correct |
| 02:09.04 | akurczyk | not from different machine, form the same folder. there was 000-default. |
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| 02:11.25 | jagginess | if he uses the usermod with apache, i think the default is ~/public_html |
| 02:11.43 | jagginess | (so he'd have to make an ~/public_html folder) |
| 02:11.55 | akurczyk | it's not a user mod |
| 02:11.57 | akurczyk | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Dec 1 02:45 000-default -> ../sites-available/default |
| 02:12.00 | akurczyk | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 242 Dec 2 05:52 001-h1f.e00.eu |
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| 02:12.04 | akurczyk | thats are the premissions |
| 02:12.31 | jagginess | akurczyk, i think someone in the past was having problems not using the usermod for webpages in /home.. |
| 02:12.46 | jagginess | akurczyk, (and they ended up using the usermod module) |
| 02:13.09 | akurczyk | so i should change the patch? |
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| 02:13.17 | jagginess | pat |
| 02:13.19 | jagginess | path |
| 02:13.31 | akurczyk | you right |
| 02:13.42 | jagginess | may /var/lib/mystuff or /var/www-mystuffMisc/ |
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| 02:13.54 | johnfg | hey folks |
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| 02:14.46 | johnfg | Is there a patch available for squeeze's screen to enable a vertical splitting of a window? |
| 02:15.09 | jagginess | akurczyk, also the vhost directive would um conflict with the main default unless they're different (you cant have two vhosts doing *:80) |
| 02:16.05 | jagginess | akurczyk, (possibly unless if you use different resolvable dns servernames) |
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| 02:16.23 | jagginess | akurczyk, (SNI, with the ServerName directive) |
| 02:16.26 | akurczyk | jagginess: so how can i run 2 webpages on the same ip and port and different domains |
| 02:17.01 | jagginess | akurczyk, you setup an alias cname record, and the browser should send the SNI servername to apache.. |
| 02:17.18 | jagginess | akurczyk, but you need to setup the dns properly in order to do that (SNI) |
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| 02:17.46 | akurczyk | i am delegatins severeal domain with a record to this hostr |
| 02:17.53 | jagginess | akurczyk, also you can use the "servername" in place of "*" |
| 02:18.16 | jagginess | akurczyk, but the servername should be aliased (cname) first in your dns server |
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| 02:19.09 | akurczyk | the serverneme is h1f.e00.eu h1f.e00.eu is in e00.eu zone and it's a record there is also h1f-2.e00.eu and h1f-3.e00.eu for the same ip |
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| 02:19.14 | akurczyk | as an a record |
| 02:20.58 | jagginess | not sure if that makes a difference.. probably it doesnt, -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Name_Indication |
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| 02:21.59 | jagginess | (dont forget the reverseip records) |
| 02:22.07 | jagginess | akurczyk, ^ |
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| 02:22.48 | akurczyk | i cant this ip is from free vps wher this option is disabled |
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| 02:24.50 | jagginess | akurczyk, it probably doesnt need a reversip record. you can always use a tcp analysis tool to see if your webbrowser is sending one |
| 02:25.04 | akurczyk | http://h1f-3.e00.eu/ it works only on 3, on 2 and h1f it doesnt |
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| 02:25.08 | jagginess | akurczyk, (sending a servername in the http request) |
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| 02:28.04 | akurczyk | http://pastebin.com/GPUiZX4M |
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| 02:29.37 | akurczyk | http://pastebin.com/Ypjwp2jz i don't understend why does one works and other don't... |
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| 02:32.21 | zophy | is debian running on the chromebook ? |
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| 02:36.48 | jagginess | akurczyk, maybe post your zonefile |
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| 02:37.41 | akurczyk | it's on my registrar server but it works you can dig thous address - h1f.e00.eu, h1f-2.e00.eu and h1f-3.e00.eu and each point to the same ip |
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| 02:41.20 | jagginess | akurczyk, i dont get a result for h1f.e00.eu (SERVER: 5.175.140.148#53) |
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| 02:46.42 | akurczyk | http://pastebin.com/eZm9r406 i have to go, its 3:46 am in poland, bye |
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| 03:45.10 | acu_ | hello guys - why search function in GNOME3/wheezy does not work - I mean in nautilus |
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| 03:47.58 | mrpink57 | Hello there seems to be no one in debian eeepc, can i ask for help here on it? |
| 03:48.55 | sney | mrpink57: yes |
| 03:49.21 | somiaj | mrpink57: you can ask debian questions here. We are a bit less focused here, but usually provde good debian advice. (: |
| 03:49.45 | mrpink57 | using a asus 1005 ha installing to sd card from cd. I can not get past installing packages it just keeps cycling and will not let me go past that point. |
| 03:50.08 | mrpink57 | I have followed the wiki on installation, and tried without internet as suggested by someone. |
| 03:50.19 | sney | mrpink57: does it give any error messages in the console (alt-f4)? |
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| 03:51.42 | mrpink57 | I will check as I did not see that as an option to check for errors. Are there common errors I can prepare for? |
| 03:52.27 | sney | mrpink57: some things may indicate a bad sd card or an incomplete image - things like file not found errors that don't make sense, etc. but if you see repeated errors feel free to bring them back here |
| 03:52.44 | mrpink57 | will do thanks. |
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| 04:04.46 | waynr | how do i change the resolution on the virtual terminal? |
| 04:06.31 | soreau | waynr: you mean on tty? |
| 04:06.54 | fling | hello |
| 04:07.13 | fling | how to list installed files of a package? |
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| 04:08.59 | soreau | fling: dpkg -L <pkg> |
| 04:09.02 | fling | soreau: thanks |
| 04:09.23 | fling | found it! thanks |
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| 04:09.30 | soreau | no problem |
| 04:09.47 | fling | I have created a user |
| 04:10.12 | fling | it does not have PS1 and tabs are not working when I log in with su |
| 04:10.24 | fling | when I use `sudo -m myuser´ it works |
| 04:10.34 | fling | how to fix the user? I nees PS1 and tab completion |
| 04:11.16 | fling | do I need to copy /etc/skel/ ? |
| 04:11.20 | fling | I'm new to debian :P |
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| 04:11.44 | fling | no, I don't need |
| 04:12.27 | waynr | soreau: yes, on tty |
| 04:13.17 | soreau | waynr: you can use kernel option video= |
| 04:13.39 | soreau | video=1024x768 would try using this mode for all outputs |
| 04:13.40 | fling | waynr: or you may use fbset |
| 04:13.48 | mynameisdeleted | so.. I want to debootstrap a 32-bit root from 64-bit debian or ubuntu... need to install 32-bit debian on 32-bit only dual-core laptop from a network that boots 64-bit linux right now so debootstrapping a 32-bit distro, setting pxeboot to load a 32-bit kernel for that mac, and settign it to nfsroot to my 32-bit root |
| 04:14.01 | soreau | you can use more complex strings to set outputs individually |
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| 04:14.26 | mynameisdeleted | was hoping the laptop was 64-bit but kernel didnt netboot so I have to set up 2nd env |
| 04:15.35 | mynameisdeleted | will debootstrap work for settign up a root for sparc on x86_64 or mips? |
| 04:15.47 | mynameisdeleted | or does the host need binary compat with the guest debootstrap os? |
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| 04:18.32 | somiaj | you can use debootstrap to download and set up the basic binaries for any arch |
| 04:18.48 | somiaj | but unless you can actually run the binaries from inside teh chroot, you won't be able to boot or do anything with what you created |
| 04:18.50 | fling | fling: try this > `usermod -s /bin/bash myuser´ |
| 04:19.03 | fling | fling: thanks, it did the thing |
| 04:19.09 | fling | fling: yw |
| 04:20.45 | ws | hmm, I think I pressed ^C accidently (instead of copying shift+ctrl+c) while aptitude purge. do you know if it handles SIGINT intelligently? (not sure if install-info was removed) |
| 04:21.44 | ws | bastardized windows habits :-( |
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| 04:22.11 | waynr | soreau: setting video=1920x1080 did not work |
| 04:22.52 | soreau | waynr: are you using a driver included with the kernel that is kms capable? |
| 04:23.04 | waynr | however, "set gfxmode=1920x1080" did work in grub |
| 04:23.11 | waynr | kms? |
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| 04:23.25 | waynr | kernel mode setting? |
| 04:23.30 | soreau | yes |
| 04:23.51 | waynr | i don't know what that means (have seen it referenced occasionally) |
| 04:24.06 | soreau | what graphics driver are you using? |
| 04:24.11 | waynr | the kernel is 3.2.0-0.bpo.3-amd64 |
| 04:24.40 | waynr | nvidia |
| 04:24.54 | soreau | proprietary? |
| 04:24.56 | waynr | yeah |
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| 04:25.27 | soreau | that means nouveau kernel module isn't being used, which would be your kms-capable driver |
| 04:26.06 | soreau | maybe you can use fbset? not sure how tty resolutions work with nvidia driver |
| 04:27.00 | waynr | i will try that |
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| 04:27.23 | waynr | the reason i don't use nouveau at the moment is because it seems to be incompatible with Xen-enabled kernel |
| 04:27.43 | waynr | or rather, it seems to be incompatible when run under the Xen hypervisor |
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| 04:36.19 | somiaj | I say ditch xen and go with kvm. (: |
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| 04:37.03 | waynr | somiaj: to what advantage? |
| 04:37.43 | somiaj | waynr: I just don't like xen cause it requires a custom kernel. kvm is int he stock linux kernel and doens't need any of those crazy patches. But they both do their job well. (: |
| 04:39.37 | somiaj | waynr: but if you can't use a kms driver you are gonna be stuck with the old standard framebuffers which I don't think can get 1920x1080 resolution |
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| 04:39.50 | waynr | so debian's default kernel has KVM support config'd in? |
| 04:40.21 | somiaj | linux (and thus debian's) default kernels all contain kvm support, there are two modules called kvm_intel and kvm_amd depending on your processor |
| 04:40.50 | somiaj | (note you do have to have a processor which supports hardware virt for this, I forget if xen can do all the virt on a software level) |
| 04:40.56 | fling | how to install xvnc? |
| 04:41.12 | waynr | oh...well Xen is in the vanilla kernel, even if it isn't config'd into debian's default kernel |
| 04:41.45 | waynr | Xen can do paravirtualization or hardware virtualization |
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| 04:42.40 | somiaj | there are softare virt's options in qemu, but I expect most people to have hardware virt these days. |
| 04:44.29 | waynr | actually i moved a mail server into a Xen VM yesterday at work on a PC that does not have hardware virtualization support |
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| 04:46.26 | waynr | i agree though, for the most part if your hardware platform supports the virtualization method in question then most methods bring about the desired result |
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| 04:47.34 | somiaj | but yea back to your framebuffer issue, I think if you use the vesa (or default) frame buffer the best you can get is something like vga=791 |
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| 04:47.45 | somiaj | but its been a long time since I used that. I forget what the resolution is though |
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| 04:48.51 | waynr | somiaj: is that vga=791 a kernel parameter? |
| 04:49.13 | somiaj | yea I use to use it back in the days of lilo before I got bored with framebuffers |
| 04:49.29 | somiaj | not sure if default debian kernels accept it or not. But I belive the old framebuffer is still there |
| 04:49.43 | somiaj | I think you can use vga=ask too |
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| 04:53.14 | epitamizor | any idea why 'ifconfig;read' does not pause to let me read? |
| 04:54.24 | somiaj | I don't reconize the command read, my man page gives me a C function |
| 04:54.37 | somiaj | epitamizor: are you trying to do 'ifconfig | more' or 'ifconfig | less' |
| 04:54.59 | epitamizor | i launch from lxterminal |
| 04:55.05 | epitamizor | through script |
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| 04:55.35 | somiaj | ok now I am even more confused. The terminal you use is not important. What are you trying to do? What does this script try to do? |
| 04:56.06 | epitamizor | i need to pause to view ifconfig info |
| 04:56.21 | epitamizor | it opens ifconfig but then closes |
| 04:56.25 | somiaj | ok I just gave you two methods to do that |
| 04:56.55 | somiaj | more is installed by default, less is better but you may need to install it |
| 04:56.56 | epitamizor | ok less worked |
| 04:57.04 | somiaj | hmm I guess more doesn't pause unless it takes up more than a full screen |
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| 04:57.57 | somiaj | yea less is totally better than more. maybe one day it will be default in a debootstrap system. (: |
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| 05:07.21 | peterrooney | votes for most |
| 05:07.23 | steve00 | is it common for a box to both act as ssh server and make connections also? |
| 05:07.34 | steve00 | act as client? |
| 05:08.15 | epitamizor | all the time |
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| 05:08.23 | codygman | How can I see my current loaded graphics driver? |
| 05:08.36 | steve00 | epitamizor, ok. thanks |
| 05:09.04 | stew | codygman: look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 05:18.40 | epitamizor | i need to switch to zsh the bash is just not cutting it |
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| 05:23.45 | alusion | Hey guys I dual boot win7 and debian I was wondering if there's a way I can make an image of my debian partition and boot it in a VM on windows? Or would the vice versa be better? |
| 05:24.07 | somiaj | epitamizor: use vipw, and edit the default shell for your user (once you install xsh) |
| 05:24.10 | somiaj | zsh |
| 05:24.59 | somiaj | alusion: since debian is mostly just a collection of files all you really need to do to get it to work as a vm is copy all the files onto your virtual hd. From there just make it bootable (not sure on the details for that thought) |
| 05:25.04 | stew | or use chsh -s $(which zsh) |
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| 05:26.08 | somiaj | crazy, a user command that can alter /etc/passwd apperntally. thought you would have to be root to change the deafult login |
| 05:26.37 | alusion | debian is mostly just a collection of files.. that's pretty cool. |
| 05:27.09 | alusion | Is anyone familiar with cygwin? |
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| 05:29.14 | epitamizor | stew, is that permanent? |
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| 05:29.54 | amu | hi guys! |
| 05:30.04 | stew | epitamizor: yes, it alters /etc/passwd |
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| 05:31.39 | amu | I installed xfswitch-plugin and it also installed some gnome packages. They messed up my xfce. I'm getting "failed to load session gnome" error after logging in. And I have one option: log out. How can I remove all gnome packages? or revert back to previous state? thanks! |
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| 05:38.04 | johnshaft | Only to ssh into windows very sporadically |
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| 05:38.27 | peterrooney | epitamizor: far better is using the chsh command - it guarantees a typo won't lock you out of your own system. |
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| 05:49.57 | alusion | So I wanna put debian on a mini SD card |
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| 05:50.02 | alusion | good idea ? :O |
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| 05:50.14 | alusion | just copy it over, make it bootable somehow. done like that? |
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| 05:51.56 | grumper | hi |
| 05:52.10 | grumper | can someone help me with a set-selections issue |
| 05:52.11 | grumper | http://paste.scsys.co.uk/216274 |
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| 05:52.33 | grumper | this paste should explain it all - I set a password and "enabled" - nothing happens :( |
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| 06:01.56 | grumper | is everyone sleeping, or just nobody has any ideas? :) |
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| 06:08.53 | LtL | grumper: yes :) |
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| 06:10.22 | grumper | sadpanda :( |
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| 06:14.17 | Datz | Hi, I'm looking for the debian source for irssi ARM.. not sure exactly where to find it. |
| 06:15.27 | dondelelcaro | Datz: apt-get source irssi; |
| 06:15.41 | dondelelcaro | Datz: the source is the same for every architecture, in general. |
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| 06:15.44 | Datz | dondelelcaro: I'm not on the ARM platform |
| 06:15.48 | Datz | oh |
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| 06:19.59 | Datz | dondelelcaro: I was thinking of trying to compile it for my android based phone. Would I most likely be able to compile it as is? |
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| 06:22.04 | dondelelcaro | Datz: nah; you'll have to do a cross compile, and probably also cross compile all of the libraries it depends on. It's not quite so easy. |
| 06:22.32 | Datz | yea, I figured there was a good reason no one had set anything up for it yet. |
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| 06:29.20 | grumper | argh... can't figure it out |
| 06:29.26 | grumper | I guess I will have to go with expect :((( |
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| 06:55.23 | ub1693 | hello. i want to learn c++ i want a ide. qtcreator is buggy. can you recommend me something_ |
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| 07:06.15 | somiaj | ub1693: I would suggest ##c++ for that question. You can see if the software they recomend is in debian by 'apt-cache search prgram_name' |
| 07:07.01 | ub1693 | thank you |
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| 07:15.59 | tomato | ok |
| 07:16.44 | tomato | hello |
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| 08:15.25 | cortexA9 | hello |
| 08:15.36 | Kakila | problems with non-free nvidi drivers, the "debian way". X desn't satrt I can't access tty1-6. How can I prevent X from startign? "nomdeset" freezes, recovery mode doesn't have network connection. Executing init 2 freezes. |
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| 08:16.38 | cortexA9 | when i play a game on my client, my server debian freeze and the connection freeze too. How can i resolve ? |
| 08:17.30 | cortexA9 | for some mins.. |
| 08:17.39 | Kakila | Xorg.0.log says "No device detected". |
| 08:19.14 | cortexA9 | sorry for some seconds.. |
| 08:21.05 | cortexA9 | i think it's an hardware problem.. |
| 08:21.13 | cortexA9 | but very strange |
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| 08:23.32 | cortexA9 | anyone have the same problem ? |
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| 08:26.23 | Kakila | Xorg.0.log shows "xf86OpenConsole: VT_GETSTATE: Input/Ouput error" |
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| 08:28.23 | sussudio | Kakila: you won't get support for third party drivers here... |
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| 08:31.09 | Kakila | sussudio: funny |
| 08:31.17 | Kakila | !nvidia |
| 08:31.17 | dpkg | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . Ask me about <nouveau> (no 3D support in Debian packages) or <nvidia dkms>. For GPUs made before 2004, ask me about <nvidia dkms-173xx> and <nvidia dkms-96xx> for legacy drivers. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
| 08:31.27 | Kakila | sussudio: seems like suppor tto me |
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| 08:31.57 | Kakila | !nvidia dkms |
| 08:31.57 | dpkg | For Squeeze users. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. "aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf". Run "update-initramfs -u" and restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist. For legacy drivers, see <nvidia legacy>. |
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| 08:32.53 | sussudio | go ask nvidia. |
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| 08:34.41 | Kakila | sussudio: ok, thx |
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| 08:35.39 | Kakila | sussudio: btw, I need this because the free driver is causing some random freezes with the IviBridge, not because I particularly like non-free solutions |
| 08:37.32 | Kakila | sussudio: and you could be polite :D |
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| 08:38.27 | sussudio | how about no. |
| 08:38.59 | Kakila | sussudio: yeah, that is clear |
| 08:39.20 | Kakila | sussudio: having a bad sunday? |
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| 08:41.45 | Kakila | what is the difference of having a /etc/X11/xorg.conf versus /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/blabla.conf ? |
| 08:44.27 | peterrooney | what are the usual cli tools to set screen blanking timeouts in X? having annoying issues with xine |
| 08:45.23 | musca | !blank |
| 08:45.23 | dpkg | You can control screen blanking in console via setterm -blank (and/or your BIOS powersave settings), and in X via "xset -dpms", xscreensaver, or your desktop environment's screensaver controls. Permanent virtual console blanking adjustments can be made by editing /etc/kbd/config. |
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| 09:10.11 | Kakila | how can I prevent gmd3 to be started at boot? thx |
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| 09:11.06 | somiaj | Kakila: /msg dpkg nodm |
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| 09:12.27 | FGH` | how can i use ssh to login into another ssh server ? |
| 09:12.37 | FGH` | not with key or anything i just want it to ask for password |
| 09:12.38 | somiaj | ssh server or ssh user@server |
| 09:13.02 | somiaj | by default it asks for a password, but if you have a key set up it will use that if it is there |
| 09:13.33 | FGH` | well he whines over an incorrect key or something |
| 09:13.49 | FGH` | thats why i just wanne do it with password for now is there a parameter i can give to use password ? |
| 09:13.52 | somiaj | you can use either ~/.ssh/authorized_keys to control which keys you have set up. move/backup that file |
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| 09:18.11 | somiaj | according to the man page if other authentication methods fail, ssh prompts the user for a password. (so I would assume a bad key would fail just like no key). look at the output of ssh -vvv host to see why you are not connencting |
| 09:18.11 | Kakila | !nodm |
| 09:18.11 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm slim". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (http://www.enricozini.org/sw/nodm/). |
| 09:18.29 | somiaj | Kakila: the idea was to /msg dpkg nodm (that way you get that factiod in a tell) (: |
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| 09:19.06 | Kakila | somiaj: oh! thnkas. did not know. will do that next time, sorry |
| 09:19.51 | quest213237213 | My Question: I have an USB Wireless Lan. Linux Support it. If i install the xfce version of debian, is there any gui to connect to a wireless access point? |
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| 09:20.11 | quest213237213 | Are the modules autoloaded? |
| 09:20.18 | somiaj | quest213237213: network-manager or wicd are two such tools. Not sure which one xfce installs by default (or if it does) |
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| 09:20.42 | somiaj | quest213237213: depends on the card, check ifconfig -a (to see if you see your wireless interface up) |
| 09:20.56 | somiaj | you can also check dmesg to see any issues about it (you may need to install some non-free firmware) |
| 09:21.55 | quest213237213 | Iam on winXP currently. under archlinux there was no problems just install base system and some wireless programms like wpa_supplicant etc. and it works. |
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| 09:22.34 | quest213237213 | I hope there is a Network manager included, while i cannot do that manually. |
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| 09:22.55 | quest213237213 | Wath is in Gnome included? |
| 09:23.00 | somiaj | it should work in debian then. I think xfce comes with wicd or network-manager but I'm not sure which one. |
| 09:23.12 | quest213237213 | But included? :) |
| 09:23.43 | somiaj | It should be. The non-free firmware won't be included by default |
| 09:24.14 | somiaj | and that is required to get it to work properly for some cards |
| 09:24.29 | quest213237213 | how can i find them out? Any reference page? |
| 09:24.52 | somiaj | get the chipset of your card, check the debian wiki |
| 09:24.55 | wols_ | quest213237213: what chipset is it? |
| 09:25.01 | Kakila | somiaj: thx, that worked fine. |
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| 09:26.16 | quest213237213 | ath9k-htc i think this module is needed OR : tp link TL WN721N |
| 09:26.28 | wols_ | you will need a non-free firmware |
| 09:26.39 | wols_ | from debian non-free |
| 09:26.40 | quest213237213 | wols_: AR9271 |
| 09:26.55 | quest213237213 | debian non-free iso? |
| 09:27.31 | wols_ | squeeze has no non-free iso, wheezy does and there it should be included |
| 09:28.09 | quest213237213 | i want an stable one |
| 09:28.16 | quest213237213 | squeeze is stable? |
| 09:28.21 | wols_ | yes |
| 09:28.53 | somiaj | there are unoffical stable isntallers. But copying over the fireware on a usb card isn't to hard |
| 09:28.59 | somiaj | firmware |
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| 09:29.42 | quest213237213 | somiaj: haha and who i must include them. I dont have a idea. |
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| 09:29.53 | quest213237213 | :-| |
| 09:29.54 | phreaky | quest213237213: just install a backport image |
| 09:30.14 | phreaky | all fimrware is there and properly working . |
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| 09:30.31 | somiaj | phreaky: what? firwmare images come from non-free even in the backported kernels |
| 09:30.46 | quest213237213 | iam confused now. |
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| 09:31.03 | phreaky | i mean that he wont have any problems i m not sayin where they come from |
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| 09:31.20 | phreaky | he doesnt have to worry about anything just get the image put it on a cd install it and voala |
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| 09:33.55 | somiaj | oh so you are talking about the unoffical installers I mentioned. Apears you can get some here |
| 09:33.58 | somiaj | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
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| 09:35.04 | eix | hi there! can somebody help me at troubleshooting this problem with an RTL8191S wifi USB dongle? |
| 09:35.33 | shtrb | what is the problem ? |
| 09:35.45 | shtrb | eix: what do you define as a problem ? |
| 09:35.46 | somiaj | quest213237213: you should read the DFSG, but the short story is the non-free firmware has been removed from the kernel as such messes with many wifi cards. |
| 09:36.28 | somiaj | quest213237213: debian provides them, they just are in a special section and not enabled by default. |
| 09:36.51 | somiaj | quest213237213: but that link has a 6.0.6 installer with non-free firmware. If you have a decent net it will work. |
| 09:37.39 | eix | shtrb: http://pastebin.com/cfVbLVJw |
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| 09:38.00 | wols_ | somiaj: it won't. the netinst has no wpa-supplicant |
| 09:38.06 | eix | first thing, the MAC address can't be like that. second thing, doesn't receive a DHCP address. maybe because of (1) |
| 09:38.23 | somiaj | wols_: oh yea forgot about that.....did they add it in wheezy? |
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| 09:38.38 | wols_ | supposedly. the d-i now has finally support for it |
| 09:38.48 | shtrb | That looks ok, make sure you have a firmware installed that can be loaded |
| 09:39.03 | eix | the weird fact is that in dmesg I have a line like "[ 9.098009] r8712u: MAC Address from efuse = 00:0c:f6:34:22:fe", so MAC should be correctly assigned (in theory) |
| 09:39.07 | shtrb | long max may result for a failing to load it |
| 09:39.28 | eix | ah, let me check |
| 09:39.35 | somiaj | eix: do you have your interfaces file set up correct with the wireless essid and passphrase? |
| 09:39.36 | shtrb | when you check the mack show with ifconfig |
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| 09:40.02 | somiaj | (also correct protocol to) |
| 09:40.24 | eix | shtrb: I have a 128K firmware in /lib/firmware/rtlwifi/rtl8712u.bin and from dmesg seems like loading it |
| 09:40.31 | eix | shtrb: with ifconfig it's also all FF |
| 09:40.45 | eix | both before and after running ifup |
| 09:40.54 | wols_ | eix: iwlist shows you APs in your area? your network/interfaces file has the correct settings? |
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| 09:41.17 | shtrb | by anycase do you run wpa_supplicant/network manager on the same time ? |
| 09:41.29 | eix | wols_: yes iwlist scans very nicely |
| 09:41.46 | eix | wpa_supplicant is not running before ifup. I'll pastebin those also |
| 09:41.57 | shtrb | eix, how about network-manager ? |
| 09:42.01 | Kakila | during the booting sequence what does drm stands for? |
| 09:42.14 | quest213237213 | somiaj: i dont have wired internet |
| 09:42.50 | wols_ | Kakila: direct rendering manager. pretty much: direct access to the video RAM |
| 09:42.52 | eix | intefaces: http://pastebin.com/fBG23Ssf |
| 09:42.52 | quest213237213 | i will just install debian stable and will just connect over wireless to the internet |
| 09:43.01 | eix | shtrb: is not installed |
| 09:43.01 | shtrb | eix, try this set it up to Ad-Hoc and see if any other device see it |
| 09:43.59 | shtrb | eix: I'm asking about the Ad-Hoc so it will not run any if-up scripts |
| 09:44.03 | eix | this is an almost vanilla debian wheezy..by the way |
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| 09:45.40 | eix | my wpa_supplicant.conf: http://pastebin.com/CtkUPGt7 |
| 09:45.49 | eix | shtrb: ok..I can try that |
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| 09:46.25 | eix | wols_: to best of my knowledge, I would say wpa_supplicant.conf and network/interfaces are OK. this is a WPA2 personal wifi network, with AES |
| 09:46.36 | shtrb | eix: I had once wpa crippling the connection as it was using the wrong protocol when connecting that Is why i asked about it and n, |
| 09:47.01 | wols_ | eix: all you need is wpa-ssid and wpa-psk in your network/interfaces file for your wlan stanza. no wpa_supplicant.conf |
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| 09:48.28 | eix | wols_: that was my first attempt. didn't work |
| 09:48.32 | eix | same results on DHCP |
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| 09:49.02 | wols_ | can you show us your dmesg output? |
| 09:49.17 | wols_ | or better yet: kern.log since bootup |
| 09:49.19 | shtrb | also paste some of messeges and syslog (pastebin) |
| 09:50.02 | eix | just a sec |
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| 09:51.56 | eix | wols_: I put back wpa-ssid and wpa-psk and verified that putting there a different ESSID leads to different results |
| 09:52.10 | Kakila | wols, thanks! |
| 09:52.36 | eix | so it's somehow initializing correct encryption. because with wrong ESSID it only tries interval 5 and 14, while with correct ESSID it tries seven intervals |
| 09:52.48 | eix | ok, now to the logs. I'll pastebin them |
| 09:52.49 | mvt007geek | i did make but :http://pastebin.com/LWA4wWMU |
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| 09:53.16 | mvt007geek | is it because of headers?devel? |
| 09:54.43 | wols_ | mvt007geek: no. how did you start the compile? |
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| 09:54.58 | wols_ | and you are lacking a "build" file |
| 09:56.02 | mvt007geek | i entered the file then did ""make |
| 09:56.08 | Kakila | wols_: I get some drm:..intel_dsm..: *Error* _DSM functions. Should I worry about this. Can't find anythign on the web |
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| 10:01.12 | mvt007geek | oh it solved .i installed linux-headers-2.6.32-5-amd64 |
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| 10:04.09 | eix | shtrb, wols_: this is my kern.log |
| 10:04.13 | eix | shtrb, wols_: http://pastebin.com/7DHcHDkQ |
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| 10:09.09 | eix | shtrb, wols_: this is my syslog http://pastebin.com/07qPX6vU |
| 10:09.14 | eix | I see more juice there.. |
| 10:09.38 | eix | it contains also the before-last attempt with an invalid ESSID, and you can see it's different. but the successful attempt..I see there "link beaten". what does it mean? |
| 10:09.57 | eix | is there a radio streetfight going on? :s |
| 10:10.12 | eix | *link beat |
| 10:10.14 | eix | ah, that's ok |
| 10:10.29 | eix | I guess it's like heartbeat |
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| 10:13.10 | eix | I also have to say that on the router end it's reported that weird FF:FF... MAC address to have connected |
| 10:13.28 | eix | so I would rule out encryption issue. it looks like a driver issue to me, but I am lost :( |
| 10:15.46 | wols_ | eix: I didn't ask for your syslog |
| 10:15.53 | shtrb | wols_ I did |
| 10:16.35 | shtrb | eix: first thing is to undertsand why it wish to get nl80211 device |
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| 10:16.58 | eix | shtrb: I know that |
| 10:17.14 | shtrb | broadcom card on pc ? |
| 10:17.49 | eix | well, let's say: I can guess that. it's because it's not picking directly wext driver for wpa_supplicant but trying nl80211 first. a Debian priority default, I'd say |
| 10:18.19 | eix | shtrb: no card, it's an USB dongle |
| 10:18.38 | shtrb | oh from there (I thought you have another card that was wishing to get that) |
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| 10:19.13 | eix | shtrb: do you agree that encryption is verified to be working? I think it's more due to this non-valid MAC address and/or driver issue |
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| 10:20.07 | shtrb | eix, when there is a potential driver issue you cannot trust any upper layer to be working or not working as the link itself is unstable |
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| 10:20.27 | shtrb | that is why I asked about the Ad-Hoc connection |
| 10:20.38 | shtrb | to avoid any upper layer applications |
| 10:20.39 | eix | shtrb: but I have tried with purposedly invalid ESSID, and result is different. furthermore, that MAC is reported to be connected on the router, so for me encryption is working |
| 10:20.55 | eix | shtrb: yes I can still make that test if relevant |
| 10:21.17 | shtrb | eix: yes please do an Ad-Hoc without any wpa invovled and see if you get the link up |
| 10:21.31 | eix | shtrb: ok |
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| 10:21.47 | shtrb | ifconfig wlan0 down ifconfig mode Ad-Hoc iwconfig essid blabla ifconfig wlan0 ip ... ifconfig up |
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| 10:23.02 | shtrb | if you would get the link properly between two pcs or a router and a pc that would be a wpa quirck if not that is a driver issue |
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| 10:31.03 | eix | shtrb: I can see the Ad-Hoc link |
| 10:31.16 | eix | shtrb: now I'll try to connect there |
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| 10:34.17 | shtrb | eix, if you have a data link and able to connect that is a wpa issue |
| 10:35.56 | shtrb | eix: link layer work upto transport work (setup an ip + route + try to have a tcp session over that) |
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| 10:37.38 | Kakila | booting "[drm:intel_dsm_pci_probe] *ERROR* failed to get supported _DSM functions" |
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| 10:39.58 | eix | shtrb: ad-hoc connection worked, however I could not ping the 2 ends. and reported cell MAC was different on both ends |
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| 10:44.56 | shtrb | eix, if you had not been able to ping that mean you had not set up a transport layer |
| 10:45.09 | shtrb | I think the connection was not established |
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| 10:45.21 | shtrb | and only two diffrent networks had been created |
| 10:46.53 | eix | shtrb: those are assumptions |
| 10:47.03 | Kakila | lets say I want to test nouveau drivers. How do I choose a given codename to install. My card is listed here http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/CodeNames inside NVC3 (GF106) |
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| 10:48.07 | eix | shtrb: perhaps I forgot to add the route for the interface. but is that necessary? |
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| 11:02.11 | Kakila | http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/amd64/ch08s06.html.en mentions alternative kernels. How can I do to test newer kernels? |
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| 11:07.20 | wols_ | Kakila: you install another kernel and it will show up in your grub menu and you can boot it |
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| 11:07.53 | wols_ | Kakila: which intel GPU do you have and which kernel version? |
| 11:07.53 | Kakila | wols_: just usnig apt-get linux-*? |
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| 11:09.57 | Kakila | wols_: nVidia GT 365M, kernel 3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 11:10.27 | wols_ | your "Problems" are with your intel gpu, not the nvidia one. |
| 11:10.40 | Kakila | wols_: but currently that card is deactivated (can't make it work yet), so it is running on an IvyBridge Mobile |
| 11:11.16 | olegfusion | problem is on nvidia gpu, not intel, as I know |
| 11:11.26 | olegfusion | (however can't advice something good) |
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| 11:11.27 | Kakila | wols_: yes, the intel gpu freezes the system completely randomly. |
| 11:12.20 | Kakila | wols_: s I was trying to use the nVidia GPu, but that is no working. I am asking in #nvidia, cause sussudio told em I shouldn't ask here, even if I am using dkms |
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| 11:13.52 | wols_ | as long as you use the drivers from a debian.org repo, you should ask here. if you use them from nvidia.com, then ask them |
| 11:14.31 | Kakila | wols_: Yes I am using the "debian way", so it is ok if I ask here, good. |
| 11:16.41 | Kakila | wols_: the symptom is very particular. When I add the 20-nvidia.conf into xorg.conf.d then gdm3 creates terminals forever. I know this because the logs get filled with Xorg.X.log with X going from 0 to infinity (untill I kill gdm3) |
| 11:17.07 | Kakila | wols_: the same holds for /var/log/gdm3 |
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| 11:18.02 | Kakila | wols_: If I just remove the 20-nvidia.conf file then gdm3 falls back to vesa drivers (apparently, from what I see in the log) |
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| 11:20.02 | wols_ | don't use gdm of any kind (disable it) and then run startx manually from terminal and check what Xorg.0.log says and what's written on your console error wise |
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| 11:20.56 | Kakila | wols_: ok, good idea. So I echo false to defuault-display-mamanger and then run startx when system boots up, right? |
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| 11:21.42 | wols_ | yes |
| 11:21.56 | wols_ | with nvidia set up in xorg.conf |
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| 11:25.07 | Kakila | wols_: in xorg.conf or xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf? |
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| 11:28.41 | martxel | hi |
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| 11:29.16 | Kakila | wols_: I am using the instructions fro wheezy that dpkg gives |
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| 11:31.57 | Kakila | wols_: ok, reboot with xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf without dm. Boots ok, when run startx the log says "unsig VT number 7 ... (EE) No devices detected ... fatal error: no screens found" |
| 11:33.01 | wols_ | Kakila: lspci |
| 11:33.20 | wols_ | and of course you must enable your nvidia card in BIOS |
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| 11:33.59 | Kakila | wols_: mmm... UEFI here... I will check if it is disabled |
| 11:34.11 | shtrb | eix: sorry had been disconected due to kde crash |
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| 11:34.54 | Kakila | wols_: lspci finds: "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0de3 (rev a1)" |
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| 11:35.33 | Kakila | wols_: Also finds the Intel GPU at 00:02.0 |
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| 11:36.01 | shtrb | eix: anyhow with the Ad-Hoc attempt to use the ap (the cell) manually |
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| 11:44.14 | Kakila | wols_: do you think it is a kernel/drive issue or just a configuration issue? |
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| 11:48.26 | eix | shtrb: I think I had set it up correctly |
| 11:48.42 | eix | shtrb: I followed the documentation |
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| 11:52.40 | shtrb | eic, if the AP differ that means you have two diffrent networks |
| 11:53.05 | shtrb | also did you make sure both of the interfaces got IP on the same netmask and that they had been routable ? |
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| 11:55.13 | Kakila | Do you think this could solve my problem http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=81999 |
| 11:55.19 | Kakila | what is i915 |
| 11:55.50 | nkuttler | !tell Kakila about i915 |
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| 11:57.58 | Kakila | nkuttler: thx! |
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| 11:58.47 | Kakila | nkuttler: I guess IvyBridge Mobile is not one of those. |
| 11:59.03 | MrTorque | hey. How long does gpart need to scan a 3TB drive? I am waiting more than 3 hours... |
| 11:59.17 | wols_ | Kakila: most likely a optimus issue |
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| 12:03.07 | eix | shtrb: yes, I can configure basic network |
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| 12:06.13 | Kakila | wols_: In Xorg.0.log there are two PCI listed. One has a * on it. And that one corresponds to the Intel GPU. Does it means that it is trying to run the nVidia driver on that hardware? |
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| 12:13.41 | shtrb | eix: in no way I wished to offend you , |
| 12:13.54 | shtrb | eix: I only wished to check if there is an actuall data link |
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| 12:15.36 | Kakila | wols_: my notebook doesn't have optimus http://www.asus.com/Notebooks/Versatile_Performance/K55VJ/#specifications |
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| 12:16.46 | Kakila | wols_: I am checking now If the intel gpu can be disabled |
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| 12:19.13 | Kakila | wols_: nope, only option s to change the memory size assigned to the Intel GPU |
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| 12:21.48 | ghostlines | hey dudes, it's possible to add different ip's to the same NIC. But is it also possible to add different ip's from a totally different subnet to the same mic also? |
| 12:22.13 | ghostlines | I would like to know if this can simply be done in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 12:22.44 | Kakila | In Xorg.0.log I get "(--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) ...\n (--) PCI: (0:1:0:0) ..." |
| 12:23.22 | Kakila | (0:1:0:0) is the Nvidia card, what does the * mean in front of (0:0:2:0)? that is the Intel GPU. |
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| 12:23.49 | sussudio | ghostlines: man route |
| 12:23.59 | tremon | ghostlines: it's possible (via regular ip address add), not sure if you can do it in interfaces with any other way than a post-up command |
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| 12:24.42 | ghostlines | ohh k, thanks alot |
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| 12:26.19 | needle | ghostlines: you could create subinterfaces on your NIC, eth0.1 and eth0.2 with different IP Adresses, the eth0 then should NOT have an IP adresss but only the subinterfaces |
| 12:26.41 | needle | that would be a way to assing different IP Adresses to one physical NIC |
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| 12:28.09 | _martin | hi, does anyone have an idea why it doesn't take my path "/c/home/admin/build/config_vars.mk which i set online 39? |
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| 12:28.58 | sussudio | !it |
| 12:28.58 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 12:29.35 | ghostlines | needle, damn that sounds like an idea! So then I should rename my auto eth0 to eth0.1. I'll check it out |
| 12:30.24 | Kakila | in wheezy how can I install the kernel image 3.6.X? apt-get shows up to 3.2.0 |
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| 12:31.08 | needle | ghostlines: the logic after this is the same like partitioning a harddrive, in this case you partition a NIC to different IP networks. |
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| 12:33.25 | ghostlines | needle, does this look kosher, can I run a /etc/init.d/networking restart ? :P http://pastebin.com/5UaKRCRi |
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| 12:35.13 | needle | ghostlines: this looks good, however do not forget to route those networks |
| 12:35.42 | needle | it won't work out of the box, i wanted to say, there will be other things also to adjust ghostlines |
| 12:35.49 | ghostlines | ohhh |
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| 12:36.53 | needle | it depends on what you are trying to accomplish with this kind of setup, also the kernel needs to know where to route IP packets, (routing) |
| 12:37.14 | ghostlines | ok cool, I'll route them. But would this have to be done after every reboot? |
| 12:37.28 | ghostlines | would I have to route them after every reboot, or create a script? |
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| 12:39.07 | needle | ghostlines: this would also work after a reboot, once you set the proper routing entries that are read while booting. |
| 12:39.34 | needle | i do not think you have to setup a script, debian should ship a config where static routes have to be written down. |
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| 12:40.15 | ghostlines | cool thx, I'm running this on my headless server. I'll add these routes then hit a /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 12:40.41 | needle | ghostlines: be careful not that you lose connection to your server |
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| 12:42.03 | eix | shtrb: yep. no worries. will check that again |
| 12:42.35 | shtrb | eix, if you have a tcp session that mean the wpa is to blame |
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| 12:46.26 | Kakila | wols_: I gave BusID "PCI:1:0:0" option to the xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf "Device" section. I do not get the "no screen founds"! |
| 12:46.46 | ghostlines | Needle, now I get this error after a network restart, http://pastebin.com/E3C9096p |
| 12:47.18 | _martin | here is my paste. http://pastebin.com/rCUASEXZ the path which i set will not be used. why??? |
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| 12:48.17 | Kakila | wols_: I see NVIDIA(0): messages in the log \o/ |
| 12:48.26 | Kakila | but still X is not running :( |
| 12:48.36 | needle | ghostlines: try following this http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/bind-alias-range-of-ip-address-in-linux/ maybe |
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| 12:49.25 | needle | ghostlines: I can only tell you what to configure, how you would have to find out by yourself. |
| 12:50.03 | needle | I have no debian host at hand atm. |
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| 12:52.44 | Kakila | wols_: There are no erros in the Xorg.0.log startx is still running, but black screen. |
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| 12:53.52 | tremon | ghostlines: iirc virtual addresses are marked with :, not . -- you could try eth0:0 etc |
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| 12:54.18 | tremon | also not sure if virtual addresses can work if the main interface isn't configured, so I'd leave one address at eth0 directly |
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| 12:56.14 | needle | oh sorry then, my mistake, it is how it works on routers, you have no interface IP but many subinterface IP addresses. |
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| 12:57.11 | Kakila | I see "unable to read EDID for display device crt-0" can this be casuing a black screen |
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| 13:00.48 | sussudio | Kakila: do you really have a CRT? |
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| 13:02.18 | tremon | Kakila: possible, if the monitor is getting a signal out of its range. Modern monitors display a warning in that case though, not a blank screen |
| 13:02.57 | sussudio | a really old monitor wouldn't... |
| 13:03.02 | sussudio | like, more than 10 years old |
| 13:03.56 | MrTorque | How long does gpart need to scan a 3TB drive? I am waiting more than 3 hours... |
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| 13:05.31 | Kakila | tremon: Nope, It is a notebook. http://www.asus.com/Notebooks/Versatile_Performance/K55VJ/#specifications |
| 13:06.01 | Kakila | tremon: my xorg.conf file doesn't define a screen. Shall I run nvidia-xconfig? |
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| 13:06.59 | Kakila | MrTorque: 1TB took like 5 - 10 min...but I was mostly unpartitioned |
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| 13:07.50 | Kakila | The only (WW) messages in Xorg.0.log are about EDID. |
| 13:08.01 | Kakila | No errors |
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| 13:09.56 | ghostlines | needle, ok thx, I'll get it to work for sure you and Tremon pointed me in the right direction |
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| 13:11.23 | Superlokkus | Hi, what's the best way for a whole disc encryption, on a existing 2 os system (sqezze and win7)? |
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| 13:12.19 | Kakila | There are two modules being loaded that somewhere in debian.org it say that can cause problems "fb" and "wfb". I will try disabling them |
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| 13:18.50 | Kakila | no change |
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| 13:29.08 | Superlokkus | Lol, so much lurkers and none who knows something about whole disc encryption? |
| 13:29.16 | ghostlines | needle, I got it to work by using eth0:1 thx for the help |
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| 13:31.12 | tremon | Superlokkus: no windows-compatible whole-disc encryption, no |
| 13:31.31 | Superlokkus | ah sorry I mean just for that partition? |
| 13:31.40 | lasers | Truecrypt? |
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| 13:32.33 | Daic | Hello. My ISP has a very slow connection to youtube, even with a bandwith of 16 MBit/s. I was thinking of connecting to youtube through my root server. Basically I have to set up a proxy server that I use when I browser youtube. Is there maybe a easier solution? |
| 13:32.43 | lasers | Superlokkus: Get separate hard drives. TrueCrypt for Windows. Full system encryption (lvm+cryptsetup) for Squeeze. |
| 13:33.35 | lasers | Afaik Truecrypt mentioned that it can work with linux so here you have it. I never used TC myself. |
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| 13:34.22 | Superlokkus | So in your expierence, there is no pratical way for a dual boot system?! |
| 13:34.27 | Superlokkus | damn |
| 13:34.34 | tremon | Superlokkus: what lasers says. Plenty of people with lvm+luks (cryptsetup) experience, but it can't encrypt your windows partitions |
| 13:34.47 | tremon | truecrypt may work, but I have never used it |
| 13:34.49 | Superlokkus | they don't need to be encrypted |
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| 13:35.12 | lasers | experience and no, I said that because I don't use Windows. |
| 13:35.13 | Superlokkus | windows is only for gaming, only debian is for serious work |
| 13:35.17 | tremon | so you're only looking to encrypt your linux partitions? |
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| 13:35.28 | Superlokkus | yeah, but on a dual boot system |
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| 13:36.07 | Superlokkus | It's an existing system, but if you say so, I could reinstall debian |
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| 13:36.16 | Superlokkus | If it's much better |
| 13:36.26 | tremon | that's no problem, you just need a small (100MB) unencrypted partition for /boot, and create one big encrypted partition for the rest |
| 13:36.51 | Superlokkus | I think my installer already done that |
| 13:37.32 | tremon | reinstalling is not essential (you can pull a backup, use a live disc to create the luks container and restore all data) but reinstalling will save you a lot of hassle |
| 13:38.07 | Superlokkus | ok |
| 13:38.33 | Superlokkus | so lvm+luks is the most used? |
| 13:39.01 | tremon | yes. it also happens to be the only encryption scheme supported by the debian installer :) |
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| 13:40.21 | Superlokkus | ok |
| 13:41.03 | Superlokkus | Any advise for minimum passphrase lenght? 12 enough? |
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| 13:42.24 | levi501d | https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm |
| 13:42.29 | lasers | Your decision. I think 128 characters for minimum passphrase is not long enough. :P |
| 13:42.51 | tremon | it doesn't matter that much since luks hashes the password many times (around 80 times) before using it as key |
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| 13:43.04 | levi501d | this is also a good tool for determining if your password is decent: https://www.grc.com/haystack.htm |
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| 13:43.12 | levi501d | keep it over a million years and your good |
| 13:43.17 | tremon | then again, I'm using a keyfile of 4kB :) |
| 13:43.35 | Daic | Superlokkus https://www.grc.com/haystack.htm |
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| 13:44.07 | levi501d | at least until we have a true feynman processor, then all bets are off |
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| 13:44.31 | lasers | Counted the length of my luks password. 19 characters. |
| 13:45.03 | Superlokkus | on my mac with filevault i use 16 seems to be enought |
| 13:45.18 | z | useful information. that significantly narrows the search space. |
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| 13:45.29 | z | steals Superlokkus's Mac. |
| 13:45.39 | Superlokkus | ok that should be all I need to know, thanks guys ( lasers tremon ) |
| 13:45.42 | Superlokkus | ahhh no |
| 13:45.58 | Superlokkus | But I'm still chatting with it right now with you?! |
| 13:46.24 | Superlokkus | ;-) |
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| 13:47.19 | lasers | Superlokkus: Let us know how it goes. I'd opt for separate hard drives myself. Keeping things simple and secure. I hate the idea of Windows poking around on the linux partition. :o |
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| 13:48.01 | Superlokkus | I have a watercooled system, and you would need another watercooling box for the disc |
| 13:48.33 | Superlokkus | (because it's much more silent), and these things cost about 100 euros |
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| 13:48.40 | tremon | btw that haystack calculation assumes an infinite number of tries per second. cryptsetup usually takes multiple seconds to verify a password |
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| 13:49.51 | Superlokkus | I use keepassx for my password managing with a about 40 char long master password |
| 13:50.09 | tremon | so the infinite tries per second requires someone to perform the attack on a disk dump and with modified luks code. doable, of course, but not realistic for most usage scenarios :) |
| 13:50.23 | Superlokkus | And the buildin password generator uses extra entropy every programm launch |
| 13:51.24 | Superlokkus | so i think this website passwordgenerator is obsolete |
| 13:52.00 | z | <3 1Password |
| 13:52.20 | levi501d | lastpass uses local encryption |
| 13:52.21 | tremon | not obsolete, it is still very relevant. It just uses very specific assumptions |
| 13:52.45 | levi501d | grc is awesome, you should watch his security now shows |
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| 13:53.00 | levi501d | they are quite informative and he is an amazing programmer |
| 13:53.10 | Superlokkus | you mean the entropy thing? The entropy from user mouse moveing should be sufficent |
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| 13:54.19 | levi501d | is that a mac thing? |
| 13:54.38 | Superlokkus | keepassx? Yeah it's the osx version of keepass |
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| 13:54.48 | levi501d | do they have a linux version? |
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| 13:55.11 | levi501d | o00oh |
| 13:55.21 | levi501d | :) there i got typing before i search |
| 13:55.27 | levi501d | i use lastpass |
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| 13:59.50 | rrrrr | I DOWNLOADED http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ an i386 image with wpa support. but during installation they search for an installer iso`? |
| 14:00.26 | rrrrr | And search in hardisks for the installer stuff |
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| 14:05.14 | Kakila | anybody in the mod of helping with some nvidia driver and blank screen? Can't figure it out why is not working. Only WW in Xorg.0.log are about CRT EDID |
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| 14:16.23 | invariant | Kakila, call nvidia corporate tomorrow :P |
| 14:16.43 | Kakila | This is my Xorg.0.log http://pastie.org/5466601 |
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| 14:17.16 | Kakila | invariant: that is not a bad idea. I will, if I can't solve it today |
| 14:17.39 | invariant | Kakila, if everyone would do that, they will be forced to setup a call center ;) |
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| 14:18.28 | Kakila | This is my xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf http://pastie.org/5466608 |
| 14:18.34 | Kakila | as suggested by dpkg |
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| 14:19.00 | wols_ | your Xorg.0.log is more important to paste than some config file |
| 14:19.18 | Kakila | wols_: Yes, it is above! |
| 14:19.32 | Kakila | http://pastie.org/5466601 |
| 14:19.57 | Walex2 | Kakila: if your laptop is one of those with dual nVidia/Intel GPUs, that takes a bit of work |
| 14:20.37 | Walex2 | Kakila: check whether your nVidia setup is an "Optimus" one: http://www.nvidia.com/object/optimus_technology.html |
| 14:21.03 | Walex2 | Kakila: if it is, your nVidia chip may be currently disconnected from the rest of the laptop. |
| 14:22.09 | Kakila | Walex2: As far as I can tell it is not optimus. I checed the specs here http://www.asus.com/Notebooks/Versatile_Performance/K55VJ/#specifications and the laptop doesn't say anything about optimus |
| 14:22.41 | wols_ | Kakila: you will most likely need to use a full xorg.conf including modeline |
| 14:23.12 | Kakila | Walex2: lspci shows the board and as you can see in the Xorg.0.log it is able to talk with the board. |
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| 14:23.27 | Kakila | wols_: ok, searching adequate parameters... |
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| 14:23.52 | wols_ | Kakila: and it's optimus. |
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| 14:25.51 | Kakila | wols_: how did you find out? |
| 14:26.31 | Walex2 | Kakila: yes, obviously, but it may be disconnected from the outputs |
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| 14:27.13 | wols_ | google |
| 14:27.52 | wols_ | besides: at this point in time, they are all using optimus by default. only old notebooks don't but with a GT635M it cannot be old |
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| 14:30.15 | Kakila | wols_: I think it is not. This is the model K55VJ-SX033H. I see that only K55VJ-SX038H has optimus |
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| 14:30.33 | Jackies | Hello World |
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| 14:32.41 | Jackies | guys i have a technical question , i'm trying to code a makefile for building a linux module .ko file , when i make this : http://pastie.org/5466646 , these errors appear : http://pastie.org/5466611 |
| 14:32.48 | Jackies | any idea where the problem is ?! |
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| 14:33.02 | Jackies | btw , tried to upgrade my kernel from 2.6 to 3.2 , but the same happens |
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| 14:33.58 | Danic | Hey. Whenever I am trying to paste something into vim through putty, I have the '#' char in front of every line. Any ideas? |
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| 14:34.36 | Kakila | Walex2: Do you have any idea how to test your hypothesis about the card not being connected to outputs? |
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| 14:34.54 | JimmyGulp | Danic: its part of your paste buffer I'd guess :) you can just remove it after ;) |
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| 14:35.50 | Jackies | any help here or i did paste the problem in the wrong channel ?! |
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| 14:37.00 | JimmyGulp | Jackies: theres been lots of parts and joins, so i missed your Q, what was it? |
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| 14:37.14 | tremon | Jackies: i'd try #debian-mentors on oftc (if I remember the channel name correctly) |
| 14:37.22 | Jackies | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:37.35 | Jackies | any idea where the problem could be ?! |
| 14:37.38 | Jackies | or how to solve it |
| 14:37.53 | Jackies | also , i tried to upgrade my kernel from 2.6 to 3.2 , but the same happens |
| 14:37.56 | Danic | JimmyGulp: So I can't do anything against it? And is there q quick way to remove the # in 300 lines of text? |
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| 14:38.37 | tremon | Danic: :%s/^#// |
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| 14:38.53 | JimmyGulp | Danic: well, try psting it into something else, and see if it appears in there too. :) |
| 14:39.19 | Danic | when I passte it into the bash, the # signs (whats its name) are not there. only in vim |
| 14:39.20 | tremon | (assuming vim doesn't do autoindent on those lines) |
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| 14:40.08 | tremon | also, the % means on all lines in the buffer, it's safer to select the pasted lines (with V) before doing : and leave out the % |
| 14:40.32 | Jackies | any hope for a reply ?! |
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| 14:41.58 | Danic | tremon. i dont understand. :S but your command worked (:%s...) |
| 14:41.59 | Kakila | the other option, if one assumes optimus, then is to fix the IvyBridge to prevet it from freezing so often... I see intel errors [drm:intel_dsm_pci_probe] *ERROR* failed to get supported _DSM functions |
| 14:42.12 | Kakila | can that be causing random freezes? |
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| 14:42.39 | tremon | Danic: the command you used would have removed the leading # from all lines in the file, not just the ones you just pasted |
| 14:42.49 | tremon | s/would have/has/ |
| 14:43.21 | tremon | Jackies: I already referred you to another channel |
| 14:43.43 | JimmyGulp | Jackies: sorry, apart form randomly commenting stuff out of broken makefiles, I've never played with them, might be work asking in either #debian-mentors (as mentioned above), or maybe a more generic linux / kernel channel |
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| 14:45.12 | Danic | ah, but thats okay because every line had that one # sign |
| 14:45.29 | tremon | good. just checkin' ;) |
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| 14:46.03 | Jackies | okay |
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| 14:46.35 | Jackies | btw #debian-mentors , is an invite only channel -_- |
| 14:46.44 | tremon | not on oftc.net |
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| 14:47.27 | Jackies | ah didn't notice , sorry |
| 14:47.29 | Jackies | thx anyway |
| 14:47.36 | tremon | yw |
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| 14:56.38 | eix | wols_: FTR problem was due to underpowered usb hub |
| 14:56.42 | eix | weird.. |
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| 14:58.49 | Kakila | Walex2: If I you see lspci -v of the nVidia card, would you be abe to tell if it is connected to outputs? |
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| 15:02.54 | bluesm1 | Hi. |
| 15:03.10 | bluesm1 | I have little off-topic, question. |
| 15:04.05 | bluesm1 | I have website which have their documents in "doc" format, (many of them), Is there any script available to download all those, "doc" documents and search for query ? |
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| 15:18.34 | bubull3 | libts-bin , sorry |
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| 15:22.22 | Sysaxed | by the way, I have a serial port touchscreen |
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| 15:49.16 | mooglenorph | Hi #debian. Running a thinkpad x200s on lenny,Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN [Shiloh] Network Connection Two issues: wicd-curses "scans for networks" three or four times, before |
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| 15:49.32 | mooglenorph | "stabalizing" and showing me the actual available list of networks. |
| 15:49.51 | mooglenorph | This is annoying. It "flashes" multiple lists and then gets rid of the list before I can select a network. |
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| 15:50.12 | mooglenorph | Issue 2: When coming up from hibernate, the laptop is laggy for about a minute. |
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| 15:50.26 | mooglenorph | Like, cursor lag, typing lag, switching workspace lag. Then it's fine. |
| 15:50.48 | mooglenorph | Oh, sorry, I was wrong before, I'm on squeeze. |
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| 15:54.58 | maunicmer | wich version of kernel you are running? |
| 15:55.16 | mooglenorph | 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-amd64 |
| 15:55.21 | mooglenorph | Got it from backports. |
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| 15:59.49 | somiaj | mooglenorph: you are using a squeeze-backport kernel on lenny? |
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| 16:00.25 | somiaj | oh wait, sorry. in general suspend/hibernate can be a bit iffy in linux. If all you get is a little lag that you can switch you are doing better than some. |
| 16:00.41 | somiaj | mooglenorph: what network card do you have? |
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| 16:00.52 | mooglenorph | Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN [Shiloh] Network Connection |
| 16:01.00 | somiaj | did you install the non-free firmware for that card? |
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| 16:01.06 | somiaj | have you tried network-manager? |
| 16:01.06 | mooglenorph | nods |
| 16:01.24 | mooglenorph | Haven't tried network-manager, I don't have a desktop environment installed. |
| 16:01.32 | mooglenorph | Does it tend to be better than wicd? |
| 16:01.55 | somiaj | you can just install it. you don't need a full de for it. I think they both suck and use /etc/network/interfaces but it could possibaly work better |
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| 16:02.37 | mooglenorph | How do you deal with getting wifi at random places? iwlist scanning, iwconfig essid, dhclient? |
| 16:02.44 | somiaj | it could be your network card (though intel's are usually fairly well supported). My realtek internal card in my laptop would lag out wicd, and fail to connect to certain networks. My fix a usb wireless dongle |
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| 16:03.16 | somiaj | mooglenorph: you can program the essid and pass-phrase into /etc/network/interfaces as an alias |
| 16:03.22 | somiaj | then bring up that alias with ifup wlan0=alias |
| 16:03.35 | somiaj | you do need iwlist or info about the wireless network first |
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| 16:04.01 | mooglenorph | Oh, sweet. That actually sounds fine. |
| 16:04.21 | somiaj | note you may want to chmod 600 /etc/network/interfaces so the wireless keys are not readable by everyone |
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| 16:04.32 | mooglenorph | Looking at the docs, is that marked (legacy) in here? http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html |
| 16:04.59 | mooglenorph | That's probably why I didn't know about it :-\, I get freaked out that anything marked legacy is going to be deperacated. |
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| 16:06.01 | somiaj | haha, I doubt debian would ever deperacate cli tools in favor of network-manager or wicd |
| 16:06.02 | TrueColors | I've asked in #postfix but I installed postfix on Debian, I'm able to send emails but not recieve - I'm curious what the problem is. |
| 16:06.06 | somiaj | though most prefer the gui tools. I do not |
| 16:06.39 | somiaj | TrueColors: could be your isp or you have port 25 blocked? |
| 16:07.08 | TrueColors | Well it's a VPS somiaj so my ISP wouldn't have anything to do with it.I'd imagine it shouldn't be blocked. Is there a way to check if the port is blocked? |
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| 16:07.10 | mooglenorph | somiaj: I'll switch to managing things in /etc/network/interfaces, then, see if that's less annoying that wicd-curses flashing at me |
| 16:07.17 | mooglenorph | somiaj: thanks! |
| 16:07.41 | somiaj | TrueColors: sometime a VPS makes you open up ports and they have a firewall on their network. |
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| 16:08.39 | TrueColors | somiaj: again I ask, is there a way to detect if it's blocked, or active or what? |
| 16:09.10 | somiaj | TrueColors: depends on your VPS. If you haven't installed a firewall (Check iptables) then it isn't blocked on your server, but yoru VPS network is a mystery to me |
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| 16:10.43 | somiaj | yea I don't see why they are calling it a legacy method and then say int he prefered gui method that you shouldn't use it on servers and it can be bugy in some cases. |
| 16:10.50 | MarkG1234 | Hi, can someone explain why when I install python, I get 2.7, but when I try and install python-pip, it wants to install python 2.6! On an embedded system, that's bloat.. |
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| 16:13.09 | Seryth | I'm experimenting, trying to get my webcam working in browser, using this: http://www.swift-tools.net/Flashcam/ but when I go to make it, I'm getting this error: http://www.pasteall.org/37696 any ideas on what to do? |
| 16:13.15 | Seryth | I'm using Debian Wheezy x64. |
| 16:13.23 | TrueColors | iptables is installed somiaj I think |
| 16:13.55 | TrueColors | 1.4.8 somiaj |
| 16:14.22 | pfred1 | Debian boldly goes where no distribution has gone before! http://www.tricorderproject.org/ |
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| 16:15.19 | TrueColors | I did lsof -i :25, and the output is: master 9371 root 12u IPv4 493254712 0t0 TCP *:smtp (LISTEN) |
| 16:15.22 | TrueColors | which is good, right? |
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| 16:20.41 | tataloo | I have a dirty motherfucking issue with my wireless I think, it sometimes needs a reset to connect |
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| 16:27.32 | somiaj | TrueColors: the issue is most likely your VPS network. you can do iptables -L if you want to check your local firewal |
| 16:27.43 | somiaj | MarkG1234: what version of debian |
| 16:28.18 | somiaj | MarkG1234: python is a metapackage that points at python2.7, you want the python2.6 package |
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| 16:31.12 | intore | hi, i have a debian server (squeeze) with 2 hard disk. I installed a domain controller with samba and ldap. It has a dhcp server, proxy server with dansguardian. In the last weeks it shows some messages about errors on the hard disks. I should have a clone of this server and of every installed server including all the accounts. How can i do? |
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| 16:35.59 | jhutchins_wk | !backup |
| 16:36.00 | dpkg | A backup is something you should do *ALWAYS*... if you value your sh*t in the least. Otherwise eons of built-up data can go BYE BYE FOREVER one day if you do not; either by HD malfunction, intentional evil by crackers, mischievous glak elves invading your system, or large magnets getting out of hand. Pay the dollars for a tape system or CDR and use <tar> (optionally with bzip2 at lowest compression). See <things to backup>. |
| 16:36.53 | jhutchins_wk | intore: Basically get storage equal to or greater than the existing system and make a copy as often as significant things change. |
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| 16:37.20 | jhutchins_wk | intore: It's easiest to do with the system off-line and booted to something like a live CD, but there are systems to allow backup of a live system as well. |
| 16:38.28 | somiaj | there are of coures multiple backup models and you may want a system you can restore to a paticular date (as opposed to just an exact copy). rsync is a nice tool, I kinda like rdiff-backup but it is slow |
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| 16:39.01 | somiaj | (i.e. you can get away with only backup user data and not the os, just reinstall squeeze and then restore your user data/config files |
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| 16:39.13 | pfred1 | don't most people back up to other hard drives now instead of expensive DAT? |
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| 16:42.16 | intore | jhutchins_wk, somiaj, pfred1. I didn't said one important thing: i can't be physically on the server. I can work only using ssh! |
| 16:42.27 | TrueColors | somiaj: nothing is there when I do iptables -L, it shows chain INPUT, FORWARD, OUTPUT but nothing for them |
| 16:43.05 | somiaj | TrueColors: as I thought, your mail server is listening on port 25, (most likely it is configured to accept the correct domain name) and you have no firewall locally |
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| 16:43.33 | somiaj | TrueColors: you can try to send a mail to localhost from teh machine (so you don't go though your vps's firewall). This means your vps ahs a firewall and you may need to use their tools to open up port 25 |
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| 16:44.27 | somiaj | intore: rsync is a nice tool as you can sync two file systems over ssh (provided rsync is intalled on both systems) |
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| 16:45.04 | somiaj | intore: it is a matter of design of how you want to enable the backup and what data you need to backup |
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| 16:48.00 | intore | somiaj, I need to have the complete system: services (dhcp, samba,ldap,squid,dansguardian and all the user's home dir that are on the server |
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| 16:49.31 | TrueColors | I tried that somiaj via telnet (telnet localhost 25) it attempted to send the email but bounced back to the "From" email address specified. |
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| 16:49.56 | TrueColors | So that means it's not a firewall issue, nothing is blocking it .. it's just... broken, right somiaj ? |
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| 16:52.39 | TrueColors | Dec 2 20:48:38 myserv postfix/smtp[18399]: B122C101602CF: to=<admin@pastecan.com>, relay=none, delay=4.9, delays=4.9/0.02/0.01/0, dsn=5.4.6, status=bounced (mail for pastecan.com loops back to myself) |
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| 16:54.48 | bcv | Hi all |
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| 16:54.59 | bcv | I just did an dis-upgrade (general update) |
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| 16:55.42 | bcv | I get this error http://paste.debian.net/213949/ |
| 16:55.47 | bcv | I am not sure how to get out of this |
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| 16:56.19 | bcv | apt-get install -f gives me this error |
| 16:57.07 | bcv | http://paste.debian.net/213950/ |
| 16:57.11 | bcv | can someone help please ? |
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| 16:58.20 | bcv | even tried to remove the /var/cache...deb file but no joy |
| 16:58.47 | mtn | bcv: looks like you have a mixed system or something. check out your sources |
| 16:59.13 | bcv | mtn: I have i386 enabled on my amd64 |
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| 17:00.06 | mtn | bcv: that isn't all you have. go check out your sources. I saw a mention of android, for instance |
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| 17:00.33 | somiaj | TrueColors: you are not listening. It is most likely a firewall issue with your VPS provider |
| 17:00.59 | bcv | mtn: That is there but is disabled and not used. I was under an impression that only .list files are used. I did add it manually for experiment but never used it and it just says the file is there and is not being used |
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| 17:01.26 | somiaj | intore: note since you can always reinstall the stable os, you only need the cofnig files/personal data (not the complete system). If you need an exact image backup to save time in the restoring process. You will need to find a way to stop your system to do your backup (you cannot have data being written/modified on the server during the backup process because you could end up with incosinstancies) |
| 17:02.07 | somiaj | TrueColors: if it isn't a VPS firewall issue (most likely) you just have postfix missconfigured. But it is running and listening on port 25 and you have no firewall locally blocking things |
| 17:03.21 | mtn | bcv: please post your source.list |
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| 17:03.27 | mtn | post/paste |
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| 17:05.00 | bcv | mtn: sources.list is http://paste.debian.net/213953/ |
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| 17:05.25 | bcv | mtn: I have added all the sources.list and sources.list.d files. The android.list-disabled is there but not used |
| 17:05.49 | danielig | hid3, I have been using gnome 3.6 under ubuntu and now in debian wheezy I don't want to miss some of the features, can you recommend backporting it or install from source? |
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| 17:06.21 | mtn | bcv: you have ubuntu sources listed |
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| 17:06.54 | danielig | tell bcv about ubuntu |
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| 17:07.46 | bcv | mtn: ubuntu sources is still inside andorid.list-disabled which is not used |
| 17:08.08 | bcv | I can remove the file android.list-disabled and do an update again if you want me to |
| 17:08.20 | mtn | bcv: doesn't look like it the way you posted. I don't think I can help at this point |
| 17:08.40 | mtn | bcv: I still think you have a mixed system. |
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| 17:09.08 | bcv | mtn: This was working fine until today's update. |
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| 17:09.26 | bcv | mtn: I will remove the android file and then update and upgrade again. Will that help ? |
| 17:09.51 | intore | thanks somiaj! I can work from remote using ssh and i can be the only one person connected to the server but obviously the server must be connected on internet. In this scenario could i make a backup image? |
| 17:09.54 | milligan | Hey! I've just installed three SG100D-08 unmanaged gigabit switches. I'm getting terrible throughput though. Two machines (on the same switch) used to give me 10mbit no problem .. now I'm getting 0.3mbit (273 kbit/sec). What could be causing that ? I'm getting no ping loss, just horrible throughput. |
| 17:09.58 | mtn | bcv: well, it is wheezy after all and something may be in flux. you could also try the debian-next group |
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| 17:10.17 | bcv | mtn: thanks I will try debian-next |
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| 17:10.44 | mtn | bcv: I am on wheezy too and didn't upgrade today because so many things were in flux |
| 17:11.11 | mtn | bcv: if I don't understand it I don't upgrade :P |
| 17:11.14 | bcv | mtn: can i undo the update by any chance ? |
| 17:11.22 | mtn | bcv: nope |
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| 17:12.02 | bisquick | howdy all |
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| 17:12.26 | somiaj | intore: it wont' be easy and it would be best to use a livecd for such a thing. but yes you could remount all your file systems readonly and then rsync the data off |
| 17:12.49 | somiaj | intore: note you will have to be careful maybe mount the actual partition elsewhere on your system so you don't backup your tmp file systems |
| 17:15.46 | intore | somiaj, the problem is that the connection on the other side is extremely slow |
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| 17:18.49 | j4jackj | Hi.I'm trying to handle an issue where gnome won't start. I must admit I'm on a mixed stable/testing system. Gnome-settings-daemon respawns too quickly and is killed signal 6 by gnome-session, and then it pops up with a generic 'Something is wrong, nothing's working, call 911' dialog box (Gnome 3's standard Imdead box. |
| 17:18.52 | j4jackj | ) |
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| 17:20.25 | j4jackj | Linux kernel 3.2.0 from squeeze-backports. |
| 17:21.31 | j4jackj | To add to my above statement, can someone help me with this? |
| 17:21.47 | bisquick | i think there might be a #gnome |
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| 17:22.20 | bisquick | but it sounds like gnome-setings-daemon is incompatiable with something |
| 17:23.48 | bisquick | also, does anyone know where the port magic file is located (the one that maps port numbers to port names, as seen in lsof) |
| 17:24.10 | j4jackj | no |
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| 17:25.29 | wols_ | bisquick: cat /etc/services |
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| 17:25.54 | bisquick | that might be ut wols_, thanks |
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| 17:26.39 | j4jackj | I think the issue is the Sqwheezy-type install. |
| 17:26.48 | j4jackj | gotta dist-upgrade |
| 17:27.45 | intore | somiaj, what do you think about this? http://www.debianadmin.com/backup-and-restore-linux-partitions-using-partimage.html |
| 17:28.25 | j4jackj | I'm on Debian... |
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| 17:48.04 | edju | Tried to install wheezy on a macbook. I read somewhere not to put grub in the MBR, so at the install grub screen, I said to put grub in /dev/sda5 - the root partition. Now, from the refit screen, it won't boot into linux - no bootable device. Any way to fix this w/o reinstalling? |
| 17:49.29 | somiaj | intore: you still run into the issue you have to freeze your filesystem before you do any imaging (else you could get inconsistancies) |
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| 17:55.18 | mocra | what is the default behaviour of debian when a broadcast ip ping is received? and where can i change the behaviour? (debian version 6.0.6) |
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| 17:56.08 | somiaj | mocra: default is to have no firewall, so it will respond |
| 17:56.21 | somiaj | I think you ahve to setup a firewall to block pings if you don't want to respond to them |
| 17:57.14 | mocra | hmm, actually i don't have a firewall. just took a look with wireshark what happens. after receving a bc-ping i send no response. i don't think that i changed some preferences |
| 17:57.38 | somiaj | what does ping localhost do? |
| 17:57.53 | somiaj | also ping the outside ipaddress from the machine iteslf. |
| 17:58.21 | somiaj | sometimes it could be your ISP or VPS blocking the ping port so you don't need a firewall on your machine, but a firewall on your network |
| 17:58.22 | mocra | i receive responses |
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| 17:58.44 | mocra | yeah but i receive the ping request (which is from another machine) |
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| 17:59.21 | somiaj | from another machine? I think you need to be a bit clear on the ip of your machine and the output from ping <tha ip> |
| 17:59.35 | somiaj | but yea default is to respond to pings. If you are not responding you have a firewall somewhere stoping it |
| 17:59.47 | mocra | my ip: 192.168.0.178 |
| 18:00.02 | mocra | ping localhost: 64 bytes from localhost (127.0.0.1): icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=0.016 ms |
| 18:00.14 | mocra | ping 192.168.0.178: 64 bytes from 192.168.0.178: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=0.016 ms |
| 18:01.08 | somiaj | ahh 192.168.0.178 an internal ip address. Do you haev a router (many routers block pings by default) |
| 18:01.25 | mocra | in wireshark: source: 192.168.0.228, dest:192.168.0.255, "echo (ping) request" |
| 18:01.27 | somiaj | also you cannot ping 192.168.0.178 from an outside network (As it is an internet network ip) and you will have to ping your outside ip. |
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| 18:01.52 | mocra | if the router would block the bc-ping, i wouldn't even see the bc ping request in wireshark |
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| 18:02.51 | somiaj | well I have to go, but you got your question. Default behavior is to not block pings, and you are not block them. If something is not pinging/blocking the traffice it is your network (which I do not know how you set it up or configured it) |
| 18:03.05 | mocra | ok, thanks anyway :) |
| 18:03.19 | somiaj | I would check your router, network configuration |
| 18:03.30 | LtL | mocra: the ip youre on responds to pings just fine |
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| 18:04.03 | mocra | LtL, how do you mean? |
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| 18:04.43 | LtL | mocra: the ip you are irc'ing from, is answering pings. if thats what you are wondering |
| 18:05.15 | LtL | mocra: your WAN address that is. |
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| 18:05.28 | mocra | ah ok, no i am just intrested within the local network |
| 18:05.42 | ben_ | Hi, is anyone else having problems with kernel version 3.2.0-4-amd64 ? I encounter complete system freezes, sometimes multiple times within 10 minutes or so |
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| 18:06.03 | LtL | mocra: nothing should block those unless a firewall is stopping them as somiaj stated |
| 18:06.34 | mocra | i receive the request, but don't send a response |
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| 18:06.50 | mocra | and there is no firewall on my pc |
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| 18:07.40 | LtL | mocra: try ping -c 5 localhost or another box on your LAN |
| 18:08.24 | LtL | or vice-versa |
| 18:08.31 | mocra | i can ping localhost, my internal ip and other machines within the local network |
| 18:08.54 | LtL | mocra: so whats the problem |
| 18:08.56 | mocra | furthermore, i can ping my machine from anouther machine in the network |
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| 18:09.11 | mocra | i am not able to ping broadcast of my machine |
| 18:09.23 | mocra | actually its no real problem, i am just wondering |
| 18:10.03 | LtL | mocra: broadcast is all boxes on your LAN |
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| 18:10.42 | TrueColors | I was in #postfix trying to get help and I have mail.info mail.log mail.err and mail.warn and they said I should only have one. all except .err seems to get input from postfix. #postfix say my syslog is broken. |
| 18:11.00 | mocra | when i "ping -b 192.168.0.255" on 192.168.0.228 i don't receive an answer from 192.168.0.178 (but from other hosts in the network) |
| 18:11.34 | mocra | with wireshark, i can see that i receive a ping-request on 192.168.0.178 (from 192.168.0.228 to 192.168.0.255) but i don't send a ping response |
| 18:11.40 | TrueColors | This is my syslog.conf: http://pastebin.com/tnMewDcU |
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| 18:11.51 | LtL | mocra: Thats probably normal |
| 18:12.58 | mocra | default behaviour of debian? |
| 18:13.04 | TrueColors | yep |
| 18:13.09 | TrueColors | wait. that wasn't to me |
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| 18:13.59 | LtL | mocra: default for any OS |
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| 18:15.03 | mocra | ok that's intresting. so there is no use for broadcast ping? |
| 18:15.37 | LtL | mocra: ive never needed to, id use nmap |
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| 18:17.27 | LtL | mocra: ping -b 192.168.1.255 |
| 18:17.54 | mocra | LtL, what do you mean? |
| 18:17.54 | LtL | mocra: sorry that should get responses from your gateway/router |
| 18:18.19 | mocra | my network is 192.168.0.0/24 |
| 18:18.53 | LtL | mocra: mine is 192.168.1.0/24 so same same |
| 18:19.28 | mocra | ah ok, you mean that broadcast ping should return a response? |
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| 18:21.04 | LtL | maotm: when i do ping -b 192.168.1.255 the gateway answers |
| 18:21.39 | LtL | the router answers |
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| 18:22.08 | mah454 | I need web interface for manage pptp users . |
| 18:22.13 | mah454 | what is your ides ? |
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| 18:22.38 | Jef91 | What is the reason the version of libglib is "spoofed" in Wheezy/Sid? http://www.debian.org/devel/ |
| 18:22.57 | Jef91 | http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libglib2.0-0 * |
| 18:22.59 | mocra | LtL, my router doesn't response but that will be depend on the router |
| 18:23.13 | LtL | mocra: thats true |
| 18:23.34 | mocra | LtL, is your machine responsing on a bc-ping? |
| 18:24.14 | LtL | mocra: not familiar with bc-ping |
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| 18:24.34 | mocra | broadcast ping |
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| 18:24.38 | assssse | hhi |
| 18:24.51 | assssse | I want to install debian stable from a knoppix cd which I now run from |
| 18:24.55 | assssse | is it possible? |
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| 18:26.59 | LtL | mocra: http://paste.debian.net/213968/ |
| 18:27.36 | mocra | hx |
| 18:27.37 | mocra | thx |
| 18:27.43 | LtL | mocra: you dont want to ping broadcast generally imo |
| 18:28.21 | mocra | tahts true |
| 18:28.23 | nkuttler | assssse: no |
| 18:28.25 | mocra | i just tried |
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| 18:29.04 | mocra | cause i can.. or maybe not? ;) |
| 18:29.27 | assssse | nkuttler: I read stuff seems like there is something called chroot install |
| 18:29.43 | LtL | mocra: if you want to check 192.168.0.1/24 use nmap to find boxes, i dunno what you wanna do |
| 18:29.51 | nkuttler | !tell assssse about debootstrap |
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| 18:30.08 | nkuttler | assssse: but really, just download an install iso, like netinst |
| 18:30.47 | mocra | LtL, actually i don't want anything. i just tried because i was intressted and was suprised about the behaviour |
| 18:30.54 | assssse | I hate burning cds |
| 18:31.07 | nkuttler | assssse: so install from usb |
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| 18:31.17 | assssse | I don't have a usb |
| 18:31.18 | nkuttler | assssse: or use debootstrap, whatever you like.. |
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| 18:31.32 | assssse | is debootstrap good? |
| 18:31.53 | nkuttler | sure |
| 18:32.04 | maotm | ? |
| 18:32.30 | mtn | maotm: ! |
| 18:34.01 | assssse | my knoppix tells me errors : Dynamic MMap ran out of room. Please increase the size of APT::Cache-Limit. Current value: 25165824. |
| 18:34.41 | nkuttler | !tell assssse about dynamic mmap |
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| 18:44.20 | assssse | it takes it a long time |
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| 18:46.43 | ompaul | !knoppix |
| 18:46.43 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distribution which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ unofficial: http://Debian-knoppix.alioth.Debian.org/ <Debian-live> is the Debian equivalent for publishing live systems. |
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| 18:51.21 | assssse | I installed with debootstrap |
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| 18:51.26 | assssse | now what? |
| 18:52.17 | ompaul | installed what? |
| 18:52.39 | assssse | squeeze |
| 18:52.47 | assssse | now what? |
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| 18:52.53 | assssse | will it work if I would reboot |
| 18:52.59 | assssse | should I install gnome? |
| 18:53.08 | pfred1 | I wouldn't |
| 18:53.34 | assssse | pfred1: what would u do? |
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| 18:53.51 | ompaul | assssse: you have installed - finished the process - go for a reboot |
| 18:53.52 | pfred1 | assssse I installed KDE Trinity for my DE |
| 18:54.33 | assssse | pfred1: I am used to gnome |
| 18:54.45 | assssse | I could install also kde to try it out |
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| 18:55.03 | pfred1 | assssse I don't like the KDE Debian ships with |
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| 18:55.48 | assssse | seems like it would take one more hour until gnome finish installing |
| 18:56.11 | pfred1 | deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian squeeze main |
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| 19:05.07 | jhutchins_wk | Gnome has several forks as well, therer's xfce, lxde, and many other options. |
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| 19:05.55 | jhutchins_wk | The annoying thing about kde is they took so many things that worked really well and completely broke them. Amarok, quanta, mail/addressbook, kuickshow. |
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| 19:07.35 | BackEndCoder | isn;t the difference |
| 19:07.39 | BackEndCoder | C and C++ |
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| 19:08.05 | wols_ | end users don't care about the language their toy is written in |
| 19:08.08 | ompaul | !frankendebian |
| 19:08.08 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 19:08.28 | BackEndCoder | i know my mate prefered kde, cause he could extend it on his own |
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| 19:08.57 | BackEndCoder | but lets face it, most of the debian users in here probably know a few things about computers |
| 19:09.23 | nkuttler | computers compute |
| 19:09.26 | wols_ | we know where the power button is. do we need to know anything else? |
| 19:09.47 | ompaul | wols_: what version of go-fish it runs :) |
| 19:09.50 | tavo | jajaja |
| 19:09.51 | BackEndCoder | knowing where the power button is so underated |
| 19:09.55 | BackEndCoder | you will be surpised |
| 19:10.00 | damacus | main screen turn on |
| 19:10.04 | damacus | we receive signal |
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| 19:14.54 | danielig | did I really ask for gnome-shell 3.6 under wheezy? |
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| 19:15.17 | danielig | I am utopist... |
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| 19:28.11 | assssse | is there pvr packages in debian? |
| 19:29.07 | wols_ | assssse: mythtv |
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| 19:29.50 | assssse | wols_: is it in squeeze? |
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| 19:30.08 | wols_ | ,versions mythtv |
| 19:30.09 | judd | Package: mythtv on i386 -- lenny-multimedia: 0.23.1-0.0lenny2; squeeze-multimedia: 0.24.2-0.0squeeze1; wheezy-multimedia: 0.26.0-dmo6; sid-multimedia: 0.26.0-dmo7 |
| 19:30.15 | wols_ | ,versions xbmc |
| 19:30.16 | judd | Package: xbmc on i386 -- squeeze-multimedia: 10.0-0.5+1; sid: 2:11.0~git20120510.82388d5-1; wheezy: 2:11.0~git20120510.82388d5-1; experimental: 2:12.0~git20121119.22795bc-1; wheezy-multimedia: 3:12.0~git201210-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 3:12.0~git201210-dmo2 |
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| 19:32.37 | assssse | this didn't find it : http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=mythtv |
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| 19:33.34 | assssse | squeeze-multimedia is a different source right? |
| 19:33.36 | wols_ | !tell assssse about dmm |
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| 19:35.40 | assssse | kk |
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| 19:43.18 | dFence | hey guys, for some reason, distcc on can't see other clients... any ideas? (DISTCC_HOSTS is set) |
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| 19:51.11 | asssse | after debootstrap the /boot dir of the new system is empty, how would it boot? |
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| 19:54.08 | asssse | I think it wouldnt boot, soemthing is missing |
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| 19:55.47 | asssse | wols_: do you know if there is a step missing? |
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| 19:57.07 | bubull3 | asssse: sometimes there is an iso image file that has to be mounted |
| 19:57.30 | ompaul | asssse: see these compare them with the history file and check what you missed http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Installing_new_Debian_systems_with_debootstrap |
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| 20:00.53 | asssse | I didn't do the things related to sys fstab dselect |
| 20:01.35 | asssse | mtab |
| 20:01.46 | asssse | is it related to /boot? |
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| 20:10.07 | jhutchins_wk | asssse: Did grub and a kernel get installed on the chroot? |
| 20:10.15 | asssse | trying to install grub |
| 20:10.16 | bako | alguno habla espa;ol |
| 20:10.18 | wols_ | asssse: install a kernel, install grub2 |
| 20:10.26 | wols_ | !es |
| 20:10.27 | asssse | getting "Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?)" error |
| 20:10.37 | bako | busco una persona que hable espa;ol |
| 20:10.44 | wols_ | asssse: is /dev and /proc available inside your chroot? |
| 20:10.49 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 20:11.15 | asssse | wols_: I see somethign when I ls /dev or /proc |
| 20:11.17 | bako | dpkg, gracias vos |
| 20:11.17 | dpkg | bako: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
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| 20:12.34 | asssse | wols_: but i see much less than out of the chroot |
| 20:12.41 | asssse | am I supposed to mount dev? |
| 20:12.58 | bako | dpkg, no hablo ingles perdon (sorry) |
| 20:12.59 | dpkg | bako: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
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| 20:13.52 | wols_ | bako: dpkg is a bot, not a person |
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| 20:14.35 | wols_ | !tell asssse about reinstall grub |
| 20:15.33 | bako | wols_, ? |
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| 20:16.55 | wols_ | bako: dpkg es un robot no es una persona |
| 20:18.03 | bako | wols_, Gracias |
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| 20:24.02 | wjtaylor | Where can I find a repo that contains firefox? |
| 20:24.07 | asssse | if I put boot on a different partition, do I put the files in a /boot dir, or right on /, and later mount it to /boot of the root fs? |
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| 20:25.21 | damacus | wjtaylor: iceweasel |
| 20:26.09 | jhutchins_wk | asssse: You might want to leave messing with the defaults and adding complexity for later when you know the system better. |
| 20:26.14 | wjtaylor | damacus: Ice weasel is not recognised by my bank. But the firefox on my ubuntu system is, that's why I want to change. |
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| 20:26.35 | wjtaylor | Ice weasel shows up as outdated an no longer supported |
| 20:26.37 | asssse | right |
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| 20:26.54 | jhutchins_wk | !tell wjtaylor about mdo |
| 20:27.07 | jhutchins_wk | asssse: Use the newer version from there, that should fix it. |
| 20:27.30 | jhutchins_wk | asssse: sorry |
| 20:27.41 | jhutchins_wk | wjtaylor: Use the newer version from there, that should fix it. |
| 20:27.47 | asssse | will forget about boot partition, try to boot |
| 20:28.25 | wjtaylor | from where? mdo? |
| 20:28.31 | jhutchins_wk | wjtaylor: Yes. |
| 20:28.44 | jhutchins_wk | wjtaylor: You should have a pm from dpkg with details. |
| 20:29.04 | damacus | !bdo |
| 20:29.04 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg>, <bdo NEW>. |
| 20:29.18 | damacus | !mdo |
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| 20:32.52 | diverdude | how do i completely format all harddisks and wipe all partitions (with dma so that it does not take forever) |
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| 20:33.22 | danielig | diverdude, shred and gparted? |
| 20:33.40 | j4jackj | I'm in the GNOME that fail whaled. I was able to close the fail whale with an Alt-F4. |
| 20:33.50 | diverdude | daniel-s__, are those on the livecd? |
| 20:33.54 | j4jackj | However, Win95 has barfed all over my desktop. |
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| 20:35.05 | mtn | win95, heh |
| 20:35.18 | j4jackj | And i'm in Gnome 3 with Raleigh |
| 20:35.24 | j4jackj | not pretty |
| 20:35.26 | danielig | diverdude, they are pretty essential programs, they should be on there... |
| 20:35.39 | j4jackj | and the background is blue |
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| 20:35.50 | j4jackj | the Activities pane works |
| 20:35.58 | diverdude | daniel-s__, gparted is not |
| 20:36.27 | damacus | diverdude: the gparted livecd is pretty useful |
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| 20:36.32 | j4jackj | the fail whale must like me |
| 20:36.55 | j4jackj | because XCB is remote controlling the fail whale via Gnome-settings-daemon. |
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| 20:37.40 | pepperjack | id probably just mount, rm all files, create a huge file using /dev/zero then format it. |
| 20:37.50 | j4jackj | and making it surface so often that it is annoyed at me |
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| 20:41.01 | assssse | it booted |
| 20:41.02 | assssse | hi |
| 20:41.10 | assssse | but then it wanted my user name and password |
| 20:41.16 | assssse | and I didn't know it |
| 20:41.29 | assssse | ... |
| 20:41.32 | assssse | sooooo..... |
| 20:41.36 | ompaul | !enter |
| 20:41.36 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
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| 20:42.40 | assssse | my guess is that I need to add a user and a root? |
| 20:43.21 | ompaul | http://www.debianadmin.com/how-to-reset-debian-root-password.html |
| 20:43.52 | ompaul | most likely you have a root user - btw add a user after resetting that |
| 20:44.21 | ompaul | don't log onto X as root it's just too stupid a thing that you can do |
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| 20:49.10 | danielig | diverdude, there must be some partitioning program on there. you have to be root to use it! |
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| 20:49.22 | danielig | if there is not gparted try parted |
| 20:49.28 | dmilith | is perl and python a part of debian base system? |
| 20:49.36 | dmilith | or gpart |
| 20:49.46 | diverdude | also not parted :( |
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| 20:49.49 | diverdude | or gpart |
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| 20:51.16 | abrotman | dmilith: both i believe |
| 20:52.09 | pepperjack | dmilith: perl is a yes on pretty much any *unix box. I'm pretty sure python-minimal is a basic depedency of debian as well |
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| 20:57.24 | neon__ | ok |
| 20:57.27 | dmilith | allright, thanks |
| 20:57.32 | neon__ | I am in (former assssse) |
| 20:58.00 | neon__ | can someone tell dpkg to tell me about backport and multimaedia sources? |
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| 20:59.05 | abrotman | neon__: /msg dpkg bpo |
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| 21:01.49 | neon__ | W: GPG error: http://www.deb-multimedia.org squeeze Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 |
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| 21:05.16 | LtL | neon__: install deb-multimedia-keyring its pays to read the page |
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| 21:27.26 | dura_ | anyone got the default menu.xml for openbox fresh netinstall? |
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| 21:28.20 | abrotman | you can easily get one |
| 21:29.32 | dura_ | i cant find one |
| 21:29.38 | dura_ | and its not in skel |
| 21:29.50 | dura_ | It had the debian menu working |
| 21:30.05 | dura_ | and now I'm a little tired to start editing menu.xml |
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| 21:39.51 | neon__ | the mysql server I installed asked me 5 times to repeat the new password I entered it, and all the time told me they were not the same, and failed to install |
| 21:40.04 | neon__ | how do I make the installation repeat? |
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| 21:41.41 | neon__ | there is somethign like dpkg fix? |
| 21:43.12 | abrotman | you can't just install it again? |
| 21:43.28 | cusco | lol |
| 21:43.47 | neon__ | I did it with mediawiki, and it took forever to install |
| 21:44.04 | neon__ | o, u mean just the mysql? |
| 21:44.21 | cusco | yes |
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| 21:44.26 | neon__ | btw, now the same thing is going to happen with mythtv-database |
| 21:44.48 | neon__ | so maybe it is not related to mysql installation, but to creation of a db for media wiki |
| 21:44.57 | neon__ | and now mythtv |
| 21:45.33 | neon__ | I will give mythtv a crappy password... does it matter the password for mythtv? |
| 21:46.10 | abrotman | do passwords normally matter? |
| 21:46.21 | neon__ | no |
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| 21:46.41 | neon__ | I don't care much about that mythtv security |
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| 21:47.23 | neon__ | and something is wrong with it. |
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| 21:47.48 | abrotman | your password doesn't matter? |
| 21:48.05 | neon__ | if I get this E: mysql-server-5.1: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 |
| 21:48.16 | neon__ | then the password is the last thing that matter |
| 21:48.24 | neon__ | E: mysql-server: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured |
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| 21:48.26 | abrotman | ... |
| 21:48.57 | ompaul | neon__: uname -a please |
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| 21:49.54 | neon__ | ompaul, Linux Microknoppix 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Sun Sep 23 11:00:33 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 21:50.23 | ompaul | so not really debian |
| 21:50.40 | neon__ | really debain, from debootstrap |
| 21:51.20 | neon__ | i guess it borrowed its name from the knoppix host |
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| 21:52.06 | ompaul | neon__: apt-get install tasksel tasksel-data then run tasksel it will install a database for you |
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| 21:52.54 | abrotman | i believe it installs pgsql ? |
| 21:53.03 | neon__ | ompaul, I am now trying installing mythtv using apt-get instead of synaptic |
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| 21:53.35 | abrotman | where did you get mythtv from ? |
| 21:53.57 | ompaul | frankendebian methinks |
| 21:54.03 | neon__ | deb-multimedia |
| 21:54.19 | ompaul | blinks and walks away |
| 21:54.31 | ompaul | night all |
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| 21:56.13 | abrotman | neon__: dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.1 or whichever you're using |
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| 21:56.56 | neon__ | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mysql-server-5.1 is broken or not fully installed |
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| 21:57.10 | neon__ | I would rather used postgresql, if possible |
| 21:57.19 | neon__ | do these softwares care? |
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| 21:58.00 | jmce | [wheezy, amd64] Hi. Any wise advice against dpkg --add-architecture i386 as suggested in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=694758#20 ? Finally met the ia32-lib upgrade dependence on ia32-lib-i386... |
| 21:58.07 | abrotman | have you read the manuals for software you're using ? |
| 21:58.57 | jmce | [just curious if any big caveats against it] |
| 21:59.09 | neon__ | abrotman, I just apt-get install mythtv |
| 21:59.26 | neon__ | abramart, I don't have to be a scientist to do that |
| 21:59.52 | neon__ | http://pastebin.ca/2262545 |
| 22:00.22 | abrotman | neon__: that's not reading documentation |
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| 22:00.52 | abrotman | neon__: i don't use mythtv, i don't use debian-multimedia .. i'm not going to isntall those packages to read those docs to find out if you can use pgsql |
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| 22:02.23 | neon__ | abrotman, do you know how to make mysql install? |
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| 22:03.19 | abrotman | i'd probably attempt to purge it at this point, start over |
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| 22:03.29 | abrotman | and learn how to type passwords, because they do matter |
| 22:04.04 | neon__ | it didn't work even when I used the password 1 |
| 22:04.10 | neon__ | just one letter "1" |
| 22:04.18 | abrotman | okay |
| 22:04.20 | neon__ | and purging doesn't work now either |
| 22:04.34 | abrotman | because it's making eggs? |
| 22:04.52 | neon__ | http://pastebin.ca/2262547 |
| 22:05.16 | abrotman | i didn't say to purge mediawiki |
| 22:05.26 | neon__ | I purged mythtv too |
| 22:05.29 | neon__ | it is the same |
| 22:05.33 | neon__ | and mysql |
| 22:06.00 | abrotman | either fix mysql, or alter the control scripts to not try to interact with mysql |
| 22:07.05 | neon__ | I purged mythtv-database, and then the other purges worked |
| 22:07.14 | neon__ | trying to install mysql-server |
| 22:07.24 | neon__ | didn't work |
| 22:07.45 | abrotman | making eggs again? |
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| 22:08.19 | neon__ | http://pastebin.ca/2262548 |
| 22:08.23 | neon__ | see ^ |
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| 22:09.28 | neon__ | var/log is empty |
| 22:10.10 | damacus | eggs? |
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| 22:10.26 | abrotman | "doesn't work" is vague .. perhaps it's making eggs instead of working |
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| 22:10.44 | abrotman | did you purge mysql-server-5.1 as i suggested awhile ago ? |
| 22:10.47 | damacus | ah |
| 22:11.11 | neon__ | i am not sure, I will just do it all over again , I guess |
| 22:11.43 | neon__ | ok, I purged |
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| 22:11.58 | neon__ | now what do I install the mysql-server or the mysql-server-5.1 |
| 22:11.59 | neon__ | ? |
| 22:12.14 | tgs3 | root user is logged into vt1 and vt2, how to force logout him? |
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| 22:12.23 | tgs3 | using ssh access to computer |
| 22:12.30 | abrotman | tgs3: kill the PID of the shell |
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| 22:14.35 | tgs3 | abrotman: so grep bash in ps aux? and how to find that one |
| 22:14.38 | neon__ | trying tasksel |
| 22:15.20 | tgs3 | ah ok, nevermind, ps aux does show tty. so | grep tty1 |
| 22:15.23 | danielig | hid3, I have a question regarding apt-get, when I removed the games from my installation via the graphic tool gpk-application |
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| 22:17.32 | abrotman | tgs3: grep the tty perhaps? |
| 22:17.35 | neon__ | tasksel hangs |
| 22:18.32 | danielig | and afterwards invoke apt-get install vim-common, texworks, it told me to run apt-get autoremove to remove a whole bunch of stuff |
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| 22:20.02 | vrlogrs | hey guys |
| 22:20.08 | vrlogrs | i have a vps that im sshing into .. |
| 22:20.33 | vrlogrs | i was wondering how i can set it so that only unique commands are showed everytime i press the up-arrow-key |
| 22:20.46 | vrlogrs | instead of showing the same command like a dozen times |
| 22:20.52 | tgs3 | vrlogrs: I dunno but #bash should know |
| 22:21.23 | vrlogrs | ok, ill check there - thanks tgs3 |
| 22:21.43 | neon__ | tasksel hangs : |
| 22:21.47 | neon__ | tasksel: aptitude failed (255) |
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| 22:21.59 | tgs3 | no problem |
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| 22:23.03 | neon__ | abrotman, do you think that the multimedia packages messed my sql? |
| 22:23.08 | abrotman | probably because you have other packages in an inconsistent state |
| 22:23.13 | abrotman | no, i think you messed up mysql |
| 22:23.49 | neon__ | how do I find which packages are inconsistent? |
| 22:24.01 | abrotman | try dpkg --configure -a |
| 22:24.28 | neon__ | ok, I will weight till aptitude upgrade will finish |
| 22:24.42 | neon__ | it hangs on Starting NFS common utilities: statd |
| 22:25.06 | neon__ | and I don't really even want nfs |
| 22:25.11 | neon__ | damn tasksel |
| 22:25.15 | tgs3 | vr if you find out, tell me too :) |
| 22:25.25 | pfred1 | neon__ yes you do |
| 22:25.45 | abrotman | ... |
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| 22:26.14 | pfred1 | 192.168.1.3:/home/share on /home/pfred1/giga type nfs (rw,vers=4,addr=192.168.1.3,clientaddr=192.168.1.2) |
| 22:26.28 | neon__ | is it good to kill aptitidue? |
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| 22:28.12 | neon__ | I am just waiting and nothing happens |
| 22:28.16 | neon__ | cpu on zero |
| 22:29.27 | neon__ | could not create listen socket for "localhost" ?? |
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| 22:31.44 | MyWay | hello |
| 22:32.12 | MyWay | after I've upgraded to linux 3.6.8 on x64, I can't use my webcam anymore , my webcam is 145f:019f |
| 22:32.16 | MyWay | can I do something? |
| 22:32.45 | abrotman | use the older kernel |
| 22:32.52 | MyWay | eheh |
| 22:32.58 | MyWay | another option? |
| 22:33.06 | abrotman | which version of linux is this?. |
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| 22:33.20 | MyWay | this one is debian testing x64 |
| 22:33.31 | abrotman | what's wrong with the kernel debian provides? |
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| 22:33.45 | MyWay | the problem was with my drivers so I had to upgrade |
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| 22:33.52 | MyWay | (video and others) |
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| 22:34.01 | abrotman | but everything worked on the last kernel .. so use that one |
| 22:34.36 | abrotman | or check the changelog, check your config, compile again |
| 22:34.57 | MyWay | no, I still had problems (minor anyway) |
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| 22:36.10 | neon__ | I don't have a lo |
| 22:36.27 | neon__ | o I have it with -a |
| 22:37.41 | neon__ | postgresql say: could not bind IPv4 socket: Cannot assign requested address |
| 22:38.19 | damacus | MyWay: howd you get the new kernel? |
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| 22:38.36 | MyWay | I got it from kernel.org |
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| 22:40.11 | neon__ | http://pastebin.ca/2262551 |
| 22:40.59 | damacus | MyWay: so, did you config it using the wheezy kernel config and make oldconfig? |
| 22:41.01 | else- | how can i install packages for other architectures? if i try apt-get install libusb-dev:armel, apt tries to install glibc too, which of course fails |
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| 22:41.03 | damacus | or did you do it by hand? |
| 22:41.17 | tremon | neon__: so, is another postmaster already running? |
| 22:41.33 | damacus | basically, you'll need to see how and why it worked in the old kernel, adn then try to replicate on the newer. might be camera specific, and you may need to search mailing lists and blogs. |
| 22:41.54 | neon__ | tremon, Idk |
| 22:42.19 | damacus | you're pretty much on your own, though. i remember years ago messing around with a philips webcam. some kernel versiions it worked, some it didn't.. and there was little i could do except get a webcam that wasn't so picky. |
| 22:42.27 | neon__ | I can talk with you so my network is kind of working |
| 22:42.32 | neon__ | but other than that |
| 22:42.44 | neon__ | things are not looking good |
| 22:43.13 | neon__ | my /etc/network/interfaces is empty |
| 22:43.24 | MyWay | yes I did it in debian way |
| 22:44.12 | tremon | neon__: empty? please paste the output of ip link show, ip addr show and netstat -lnp |
| 22:44.19 | tremon | !tell neon__ about paste |
| 22:44.23 | MyWay | damacus: what should I look at? |
| 22:45.10 | abrotman | the changelog? |
| 22:45.48 | MyWay | I should look at the log from my old version 3.4.10 to 3.6.8? :O |
| 22:46.06 | tremon | anyone know how I can bring up the javascript console in iceweasel? I don't have firebug but I'm fighting a broken website and need to spank the authors |
| 22:46.16 | tremon | (I don't have firebug installed) |
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| 22:47.06 | neon__ | tremon, http://pastebin.ca/2262555 |
| 22:47.34 | abrotman | tremon: Tools? |
| 22:47.56 | tremon | yeah that's where it used to be, but iceweasel 10 doesn't have the menubar anymore |
| 22:48.04 | tremon | nevermind, I found it |
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| 22:48.21 | tremon | there's a "web developer" main menu item |
| 22:48.41 | MyWay | abrotman: is there some way to do it or I should look at every single log? |
| 22:49.01 | abrotman | shold be a changelog in the release tarball? |
| 22:49.11 | tremon | (oh duh. and right-clicking on the address bar will allow you to show the menu bar too. don't mind me, it's late) |
| 22:49.35 | damacus | MyWay: do a binary search |
| 22:49.37 | tremon | neon__: first, your loopback interface is down |
| 22:49.43 | MyWay | how? |
| 22:49.44 | damacus | get an older kernel midway between old and new |
| 22:49.46 | damacus | see if it works |
| 22:49.51 | damacus | if it does, move forward by 50% |
| 22:49.53 | damacus | find the breakage |
| 22:49.57 | damacus | and go from there |
| 22:50.02 | MyWay | ah, binary search algorithm |
| 22:50.03 | MyWay | :P |
| 22:50.06 | damacus | right |
| 22:50.38 | tremon | neon__: you have no other postmaster running, but since postgres wants to bind on localhost by default, it probably fails because of the loopback interface |
| 22:51.44 | tremon | neon__: add the following two lines to /etc/network/interfaces: 1) auto lo 2) iface lo inet loopback , then run ifup lo |
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| 22:57.08 | neon__ | tremon, that seems to have helped |
| 22:58.11 | Scathen^C | hey all, im a debian noob. tried to install postfix today and was getting an apt size mismatch error, and now when i run apt-get update i get a signature error (signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2). My sources.list points to my vps host servers <- would these be the problem, and should I change to other servers, and if so which ones? |
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| 22:58.28 | abrotman | Scathen^C: try a different mirror |
| 22:59.13 | Scathen^C | is there somewhere i can get a list of mirrors? |
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| 23:00.39 | majuscule | Why might a checksummed USB iso not be booting? The system says "not bootable" |
| 23:00.46 | abrotman | Scathen^C: debian.org/mirrors/list |
| 23:00.57 | abrotman | majuscule: you wrote to the wrong device? |
| 23:01.04 | abrotman | or used the wrong architecture |
| 23:01.11 | majuscule | abrotman: definitely right device |
| 23:01.23 | majuscule | abrotman: i386 for a asus eeepc 1000HE |
| 23:01.34 | abrotman | majuscule: which device did you write the ISO to? |
| 23:01.40 | abrotman | and how did you write it? |
| 23:01.50 | majuscule | dd if=.iso of=/dev/sde |
| 23:02.01 | majuscule | also tried bs=4M |
| 23:02.02 | abrotman | manual says to use cat |
| 23:02.12 | majuscule | that's with a gzipped iso right? |
| 23:02.14 | abrotman | zcat technically i believe |
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| 23:02.30 | majuscule | isn't that if you download a gzipd iso? |
| 23:02.38 | abrotman | no |
| 23:02.39 | majuscule | i have an uncompressed iso |
| 23:02.41 | majuscule | o |
| 23:02.42 | majuscule | hmm |
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| 23:05.45 | Scathen^C | abrotman: thanks, changing the mirror to the local primary seemed to do the trick. |
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| 23:19.15 | othiym23 | does anyone know of a way to get atop's interactive display to work on powerpc systems? |
| 23:19.47 | othiym23 | I get a bunch of control-character gibberish every time it tries to display info about a task that exited during the last 10 seconds |
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| 23:27.17 | majuscule | abrotman: that was my mistake :-) thank you |
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| 23:28.37 | majuscule | however, the boot image says it cannot locate the ISO, it is sitting on the usb, on /dev/sdb, which it seems to search but not find |
| 23:28.40 | majuscule | hmmm |
| 23:29.08 | Solengo | hi everyone!! I need help! I need to config a simple gateway on my computer. My local ip network eth0 192.168.0.5 while my public ip network is eth1 192.168.1.5. How can I config iptable so that I can access to the internet from my computers in the local network?? |
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| 23:33.02 | richweskus | hey guys, can anyone tell me. is it possible to remote control a logged in session. like if i had a debian computer plugged into the tv and wanted to log in and change the movie without having to re-login on the tv once iv finished with the session |
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| 23:33.59 | gasoline | hi peeps |
| 23:34.19 | gasoline | hows upgrading from squeeze ? is the X problems fixed yet ? |
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| 23:37.48 | abrotman | majuscule: and you used the correct method ? |
| 23:38.04 | abrotman | richweskus: vlc ? |
| 23:38.10 | abrotman | gasogrrr |
| 23:38.14 | richweskus | yes |
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| 23:38.42 | richweskus | well its on a raspberrypi i just wanna be able to issue comands to the xscreen from console? |
| 23:38.52 | Solengo | can you help me? |
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| 23:40.04 | majuscule | abrotman: yes, but i think i must be picking the wrong image to use still. i managed to get it to find the image by using "advanced install", which sortv works but complains it is missing the kernel modules and so detects no hardware. I'm following 4.3.2 here, but it's not clear on which image to use. My reading elsewhere also seems to point that this is depreciated now in favor of "hybrid" images, which is what i thought I had in the first place |
| 23:40.10 | majuscule | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en#id586675 |
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| 23:41.17 | abrotman | looks |
| 23:41.30 | abrotman | majuscule: why? just use the method in 4.3.1 ? |
| 23:41.38 | abrotman | takes a minute, done |
| 23:41.40 | majuscule | that's what i tried to start with!! |
| 23:41.46 | majuscule | then you said to use the method with zcat |
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| 23:41.49 | abrotman | but you used dd ... |
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| 23:41.52 | majuscule | which got it to boot |
| 23:41.58 | majuscule | man i've tried it all haha |
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| 23:42.12 | abrotman | sorry, i meant to use the 'cat foo.iso > /dev/sdz && sync' |
| 23:42.18 | majuscule | np |
| 23:42.26 | majuscule | i've tried that though and it didn't seem to work |
| 23:42.31 | majuscule | i'll try it again now and look for an error |
| 23:42.49 | majuscule | also, what's the difference between dd and cat? aren't they the same? |
| 23:42.53 | majuscule | just curious |
| 23:43.28 | abrotman | i've heard people say it sometimes works with dd, but i'm just quoting the manual |
| 23:43.33 | Rusty1 | majuscule: man dd, man cat see for yourself |
| 23:44.15 | abrotman | Rusty1: have you tried that? |
| 23:44.17 | majuscule | Rusty1: i've been there ;-) |
| 23:45.10 | abrotman | majuscule: IIRC, dd is block level, cat is more of a file/stream |
| 23:45.36 | majuscule | that's my understand as well, but i'm not sure what that could imply here, which i was wondering |
| 23:45.41 | majuscule | it's all good though :-) |
| 23:45.45 | majuscule | i hope this works |
| 23:46.01 | Rusty1 | abrotman: aye ? |
| 23:46.12 | abrotman | Rusty1: not much information in there |
| 23:46.20 | majuscule | ahrg, it doesn't boot |
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| 23:46.53 | abrotman | majuscule: same error? |
| 23:46.56 | majuscule | using debian-6.0.6-i386-netinst.iso |
| 23:46.58 | majuscule | no error |
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| 23:47.02 | majuscule | well |
| 23:47.08 | majuscule | just "no bootable drive detected" |
| 23:47.09 | dFence | is there a way to send git a signal so it returns its current progress? |
| 23:47.32 | majuscule | dFence: ? on what? gc? |
| 23:48.15 | dFence | majuscule: git is run by a script on another console, I'd like to find out whether there's a way to have it tell me its current progress |
| 23:48.48 | majuscule | dFence: git is very verbose, redirect the output with tee? not sure exactly what you mean but this'd be better in #git or #bash |
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| 23:49.06 | dFence | majuscule: thanks |
| 23:50.06 | majuscule | np |
| 23:50.18 | majuscule | abrotman: i'm downloading a businesscard image to try :-/ |
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| 23:51.22 | quebre | i'm an author of git |
| 23:51.35 | quebre | yup, Linus is here waiting for your questions. |
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| 23:52.26 | abrotman | majuscule: that won't make a difference |
| 23:52.36 | majuscule | heh, i'm just out of ideas! |
| 23:52.54 | quebre | time's up, waiting waiting for your questions next year. |
| 23:53.56 | Rusty1 | quebre: do you troll on Sundays only, or is it a full time gig? |
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| 23:54.33 | abrotman | ahem ... |
| 23:54.53 | abrotman | majuscule: you can try any of hte methods on that page .. not sure why the first doesn't work, it's always worked for me |
| 23:56.04 | majuscule | abrotman: i feel silling saying this but I feel like I'm just using the wrong file somehow / misunderstanding something. Since I can boot with this boot.img.gz - what iso should be using with it? |
| 23:56.07 | quebre | rush2end: sundays only, but that's conditional, the sunday must be when i'm about to drop my gf and when i'm going to have my payment doubled so it's sort of halloween when good and bad meets, besides, yeah i'm really _THAT_ guy and wanted to sum up the Debian that pissed me off, cheers ;-)_ |
| 23:56.08 | majuscule | http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/ |
| 23:56.12 | majuscule | feel silly** |
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| 23:56.37 | abrotman | majuscule: it has the instructoins, says any iso should work |
| 23:57.10 | majuscule | err, where are the instructions there? |
| 23:57.30 | abrotman | quebre: tha'ts not appropriate or amusing, do it somewhere else |
| 23:57.45 | abrotman | majuscule: see the paragraph under the 'zcat' line ? |
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| 23:58.06 | majuscule | oh :-/ yeah |
| 23:59.01 | majuscule | ug |
| 23:59.02 | majuscule | uggg |
| 23:59.56 | spin_ | I have debian 6.0.6 and when I scan with chkrootkit he find this : /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-gcj-4.4/.java-gcj-4.4.jinfo /usr/lib/iceweasel/.autoreg /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.1/.autoreg /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/.path /lib/init/rw/.ramfs |