| 00:01.03 | nkuttler | MontiSola: just add /sbin/ to your PATH |
| 00:01.11 | MontiSola | dpkg told me that netdev should work, if i use NetworkManager or wicd... |
| 00:01.11 | dpkg | You are person #2 to send an unparseable request, MontiSola |
| 00:01.13 | nkuttler | MontiSola: or do you actually want to change settings? |
| 00:01.46 | MontiSola | nkuttler: yes, i want to change settings. and the dpkg bot seems to be wrong.. |
| 00:02.03 | nkuttler | MontiSola: so use sudo |
| 00:02.09 | MontiSola | i opened /etc/group and i've found i'm already in that group |
| 00:02.25 | MontiSola | but ifconfig wlan0 down (for example) isnt working |
| 00:02.30 | nkuttler | .oO |
| 00:02.50 | nkuttler | you didn't read what the bot said. anyway, not relevant if you want to use ifconfig |
| 00:03.23 | MontiSola | nkuttler: i already use 'su' but what i want is to be able to switch from wifi to cable and viceversa (using ifconfig and iwconfig) |
| 00:03.54 | MontiSola | _without_ using 'su' or 'sudo' (aka without issuing a password) |
| 00:04.14 | nkuttler | MontiSola: you can use sudo without password. man visudo |
| 00:04.23 | reddolf | You'd have to use network manager or a setuid script. |
| 00:04.26 | nkuttler | MontiSola: read also man 5 interfaces while you're at it, ifup if much nicer |
| 00:04.39 | MontiSola | nkuttler: yes i've read the bot. it talks about networkmanager or wicd. |
| 00:04.42 | Brigo | MontiSola: what you need is sudo. |
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| 00:05.00 | nkuttler | MontiSola: you already said that |
| 00:05.10 | MontiSola | Brigo: that is what i want to avoid |
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| 00:05.21 | nkuttler | MontiSola: you said you don't want to type a password |
| 00:05.26 | Brigo | sudo? why? |
| 00:05.30 | reddolf | Changing those kinds of settings requires root privileges, MontiSola. |
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| 00:05.49 | reddolf | Either use a network manager, a setuid script, or sudo. |
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| 00:06.40 | MontiSola | reddolf: ah, ok. no way :( I thought there was a group for that. |
| 00:07.00 | MontiSola | so i'll continue using sudo/su. |
| 00:07.04 | Brigo | MontiSola: you can tell sudo to not use passwords. |
| 00:07.07 | MontiSola | thanks anyway |
| 00:07.28 | MontiSola | Brigo: ? what do you mean? |
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| 00:07.43 | lwizardl | hello |
| 00:08.17 | Brigo | use a root program, like ifconfig with another umprivileged user without passwd. |
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| 00:09.05 | MontiSola | -_- seems like a joke... |
| 00:09.49 | Brigo | why? |
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| 00:10.15 | MontiSola | Brigo: that's nonsense. You tell me to allow root access passwordless ? it's crazy |
| 00:10.24 | Brigo | you can configure it in sudoers. |
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| 00:10.45 | nkuttler | MontiSola: man 5 sudoers, and try to understand things before commenting on them |
| 00:10.49 | Brigo | MontiSola: only for one program, this is what you are looking for, arent you? |
| 00:11.00 | Brigo | MontiSola: a example: |
| 00:11.02 | Brigo | nagios ALL=(root) NOPASSWD:/usr/lib/nagios/plugins/check_icmp |
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| 00:11.33 | Brigo | user nagios can use /usr/lib/nagios/plugins/check_icmp without passwd |
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| 00:11.51 | lwizardl | I am looking to switch from my current distro to the main debian. When i go to download the iso for the amd64 i see like 52 iso versions. how do I select the correct one ? |
| 00:12.05 | nkuttler | !tell lwizardl about netinst |
| 00:12.27 | nkuttler | lwizardl: netinst, or the first cd/dvd |
| 00:12.36 | MontiSola | Brigo: like: "myuser ALL=(root) NOPASSWD:/sbin/ifconfig" ? |
| 00:12.44 | echo083 | how to restart network ? when using service restart networking it says it is deprecated |
| 00:13.07 | MontiSola | echo083: try /etc/init.d/NetworkManager restart |
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| 00:14.06 | Brigo | MontiSola: yes, i think :-) |
| 00:14.18 | echo083 | MontiSola, it hasn't network manager installer :( |
| 00:14.27 | MontiSola | lwizardl: if you want a netinstall i suggest you use the one with the string "businesscard" in the filename. It's ~50MB and it works good |
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| 00:15.10 | MontiSola | lwizardl: you can also dump it on an usb stick and then boot from that :) |
| 00:15.37 | Brigo | echo083: echo083 do you know your network interfaces? |
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| 00:16.40 | echo083 | Brigo, yes eth0 but i'm making network test modyfiing the /etc/network/interfaces file i'm tired to reboot after every change |
| 00:16.58 | nkuttler | echo083: ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 |
| 00:17.09 | nkuttler | or whichever device you're modifying |
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| 00:17.53 | echo083 | nkuttler, ok i'll do that but which script is executed at boot to initialize the network ? |
| 00:18.30 | nkuttler | echo083: /etc/init.d/networking ? |
| 00:18.44 | MontiSola | Brigo: sudo /sbin/ifconfig wlan0 down ask again for the password o.O |
| 00:18.48 | Brigo | yes, i think this is. |
| 00:19.08 | lwizardl | k thanks |
| 00:19.25 | echo083 | nkuttler, when executed manually it says it is deprecated that's why i came to ask here |
| 00:19.27 | Brigo | something wrong? logout & login needed, maybe? |
| 00:20.02 | Brigo | echo083: echo083 did you try service networking restart? |
| 00:20.42 | nkuttler | echo083: the deprecation warning seems to be for a specifc command only |
| 00:20.48 | Brigo | or service restart networking? |
| 00:20.48 | MontiSola | Brigo: i've tried "sudo bash" and then , as root, "su myuser" and then "sudo ifconfig wlan0 down" |
| 00:21.20 | MontiSola | /etc/sudoers contains "myuser ALL=(root) NOPASSWD:/sbin/ifconfig" |
| 00:21.25 | echo083 | Brigo, I just did it again and it says the same "deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces" |
| 00:21.59 | echo083 | nkuttler, ah really ? |
| 00:22.10 | echo083 | nkuttler, so i should just ignore it is a kind of warning |
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| 00:22.43 | nkuttler | echo083: i would. it's not like you would restart networking on a production box anyway, or is it? |
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| 00:23.18 | nkuttler | some services may also stop working if you bring a device down and up again |
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| 00:23.27 | echo083 | nkuttler, no you are right it is just for basic test absolutely no production stuff !! |
| 00:24.12 | echo083 | nkuttler, oh yes i'm aware of that too thanks for the tip |
| 00:24.13 | echo083 | nkuttler, Brigo, MontiSola, Thanks guys |
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| 00:33.25 | alusion | Hello debians, I dual boot Win7 and debian on my main rig and I want to make a VM of my debian partition. Right now I have access already to my debian partitions, how do I make a bootable image ? |
| 00:34.02 | zykotick9 | d-d-a |
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| 00:34.49 | alusion | ? |
| 00:35.29 | zeptis | hey all, I'm currently attempting to get the 2.2 i386 version of Skype to work. When getting around the problem where the deb package for Skype didn't declare libqt4-dbus as a dependency, I seem to have encountered a second, more strange error. For some reason, upon using both synaptic and apt-get to download libqt4-dbus, for some reason it hasn't installed the necessary library. I looked at the pulled packaged in gdebi, and it tells me |
| 00:35.29 | zeptis | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.44 | zeptis | >.> sorry for writing you all a book. |
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| 00:36.25 | abrotman | zeptis: is your OS 64bit ? |
| 00:37.08 | zeptis | yes, amd64 with multilib |
| 00:37.23 | reddolf | They used to have a static version of Skype... |
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| 00:41.54 | zeptis | just tried pulling i386 libs for libqt4-dbus specifically, still no dice. |
| 00:41.58 | zeptis | nyoro~n |
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| 00:47.16 | zeptis | figured it out: they didn't declare libqt4-network as a dependency either. Now to use skype to convince people not to use skype. Thanks for emotional support, #debian. |
| 00:47.17 | MontiSola | Brigo: no way, the nagios example isnt working. It still asks for the password. |
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| 00:47.52 | abailarri | Anyone can help me? After installing debian with a windows in the grub I see only Debian, I can not choose OS. |
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| 00:48.37 | zeptis | abailarri: edit /boot/grub.conf to include bootstrapping to the windows partition and give yourself a 30 second timeout. |
| 00:49.30 | BenNZ | abailarri: run sudo update-grub ? |
| 00:49.45 | zeptis | pay attention as to whether you're using grub or grub2, abailarri, because they have slightly different syntax. |
| 00:49.54 | mtn | abailarri, make sure os-prober is installed |
| 00:49.59 | LtL | abailarri: os-prober ? |
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| 00:52.28 | abailarri | it¡s necesary to ad a menuentry on the grub.conf? |
| 00:52.55 | jesusemelendezm | abailarri |
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| 00:53.15 | abrotman | abailarri: did you install os-prober? |
| 00:53.23 | LtL | abailarri: grub.conf doesn't exist in squeeze /boot/grub/grub.cfg does |
| 00:54.08 | zeptis | thanks, LtL |
| 00:54.09 | abailarri | firts I updated the grub. I'll try restarting |
| 00:54.11 | zeptis | I'm a dork. |
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| 00:59.23 | abailarri | I solved the problem with the grub. But I have a strange problem emerged. When going to System> Preferences> Appearance, I get this error: Failed to execute child process "gnome-appearance-properties" (No such file or directory) |
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| 01:03.18 | MontiSola | Brigo: i think the error in you nagios/sudoers example is in the file ownership. the only way to make ifconfig work for 'myuser' is to put myuser in the root group :( |
| 01:03.58 | dvs | or use sudo |
| 01:04.14 | MontiSola | (or to change the ownership of the ifconfig file) either ways are bad. so i think i'll simply use sudo bash and then ifconfig |
| 01:04.20 | MontiSola | dvs: -_- |
| 01:04.49 | MontiSola | dvs: that discussion was indeed about *avoiding* using sudo+password |
| 01:05.04 | dvs | always strolls in laet |
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| 01:05.07 | dvs | late too |
| 01:05.17 | abailarri | I have a strange problem emerged. When going to System> Preferences> Appearance, I get this error: Failed to execute child process "gnome-appearance-properties" (No such file or directory) |
| 01:05.19 | raket | hello. how do i force the installer cd to be 80x25 instead of 640x400? |
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| 01:08.56 | dvs | raket: depends what video kernel module your computer uses. |
| 01:13.16 | raket | dvs: well the menu in the startup i not textmode, hence i can't see it at all. is it possible to just run the thing in textmode? |
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| 01:14.39 | dvs | raket: What video chipset does your computer use? |
| 01:15.08 | raket | something that don't support anything else then textmode 80x25 |
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| 01:15.30 | dvs | if you don't know it then I can't help you. |
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| 01:16.26 | dvs | !next |
| 01:16.26 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 01:22.07 | jesusemelendezm | mee |
| 01:22.19 | jesusemelendezm | I want a good solution for virtualize debian machines! |
| 01:22.20 | raket | install fb=false vga=normal |
| 01:22.31 | jesusemelendezm | Virtual box isn't. Do you know something else? |
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| 01:24.08 | Sanjuro | vmware? |
| 01:24.12 | alfplayer | jesusemelendezm: virt-manager, but maybe not in squeeze |
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| 01:30.06 | jesusemelendezm | thanks alfplayer |
| 01:30.12 | jesusemelendezm | I will search about it. |
| 01:30.37 | jesusemelendezm | do you guys use debian as a server or as desktop? |
| 01:30.49 | dvs | yes |
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| 01:32.10 | epsilon | what's the difference *shrugs* |
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| 01:37.50 | abrotman | epsilon: your server doesn't have a desktop ? :) |
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| 01:39.30 | Xgates | hey guys |
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| 01:40.12 | Xgates | If anyone uses Tint2 and loves it, then PLEASE share your comments and say your peace, maybe with enough people sharing on this, the developers will give way to bringing something out new, in a new release soon... |
| 01:40.12 | jesusemelendezm | hey xgates... hopefully not Bill Gates! |
| 01:40.13 | Xgates | http://code.google.com/p/tint2/issues/detail?id=420&start=100 |
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| 01:40.57 | Xgates | btw this is not a rant, pander, cry or whine, I just think it's good end-users on opensourced projects tell developers thanks and show some appreciation is all, so hopefully we have some Tint2 loves in the house hehe :) |
| 01:41.06 | Xgates | yo jesusemelendezm :) |
| 01:44.09 | sney | Xgates: I know most channel conventions are different, but this is a support channel for debian users and advertising or user surveys are not usually welcome |
| 01:44.15 | sney | just so you know for next time |
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| 01:45.54 | Xgates | I'm an OLD Linux geek and I'm merely an end-user showing thanks, and saying HEY if you happen to like the project, just remember the Developers out there who give so much of their FREE time and make or getting nothing in return, except our grattitude |
| 01:45.59 | abrotman | or in this case, spam the channel ? |
| 01:46.06 | Xgates | So just remember that too sney |
| 01:46.08 | abrotman | Xgates: do you ahve a Debian related question ? |
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| 01:46.32 | sney | Xgates: I'm just giving you a friendly note. abrotman might ban you |
| 01:46.51 | sney | not everyone knows the rules so you don't have to be psychic and follow them the first time. |
| 01:47.21 | Xgates | I know the rules, I've been on Freenode as long as it's owned it and then when it was the OpenSourced project |
| 01:47.53 | sney | oh, so you're just entitled to ignore them when it suits you. ok, thanks for clearing that up |
| 01:47.54 | Xgates | going off topic just for a few lines in the Good Spirit of Linux, certainly you guys have a heart, I'm not in here just spamming BS |
| 01:48.04 | sney | shrug |
| 01:48.08 | Xgates | relax guys sheesh |
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| 01:48.11 | Xgates | I'm done |
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| 01:48.16 | sney | indeed. |
| 01:48.21 | abrotman | Xgates: Please keep it ontopic in the future, thank you |
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| 02:05.39 | KeatonT | Okay, so I need some help if anyone is available. I'm attempting to setup Debian with a raid0 setup for the root dir. |
| 02:06.01 | KeatonT | The installation goes completely fine until grub2 attempts to write the bootloader. |
| 02:06.04 | abrotman | you do understand that RAID0 isn't really RAID, right ? |
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| 02:06.16 | KeatonT | I'm looking for speed not redundancy. |
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| 02:06.44 | Brigo | what is raid0, then? :-) |
| 02:07.03 | banginpadr | Why |
| 02:07.16 | KeatonT | why what? |
| 02:07.17 | banginpadr | Ppl like to ban others |
| 02:07.23 | Brigo | you said RAID0 isn't really RAID |
| 02:07.25 | banginpadr | Let them be |
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| 02:07.59 | KeatonT | Anyways... |
| 02:08.23 | KeatonT | I can't for the life of me get grub installed after the installation completes. |
| 02:08.23 | banginpadr | Every one is free to speak their mind |
| 02:08.30 | abrotman | banginpadr: Do you need help with Debian? |
| 02:08.35 | banginpadr | Anyways |
| 02:08.43 | abrotman | Brigo: there's no redundancy there |
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| 02:08.55 | banginpadr | Umm no really |
| 02:09.02 | banginpadr | I want to know |
| 02:09.13 | banginpadr | Something about Linux |
| 02:09.25 | banginpadr | Is always the same raight? |
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| 02:09.43 | KeatonT | :/ |
| 02:09.49 | banginpadr | Lol |
| 02:09.51 | banginpadr | Common |
| 02:10.01 | banginpadr | I have pc windows and mac |
| 02:10.22 | banginpadr | But is never late to learn something new |
| 02:10.59 | nmschulte | Hi all. I have some PDF documents that have fillable forms, as well as calculations. Evince seems to handle the fillable form fine, but not the calculation. Is there a program that can do both? |
| 02:11.09 | banginpadr | Using VMware pc I set up Ubuntu |
| 02:11.39 | banginpadr | Cuz I want to use backtrack |
| 02:11.55 | abrotman | banginpadr: this is not hte backtrack support channel |
| 02:12.07 | abrotman | nor Ubuntu support channel |
| 02:12.16 | abrotman | nmschulte: pdfedit perhaps |
| 02:12.37 | banginpadr | So Linux,Ubuntu,and this Debian is not the same? |
| 02:12.45 | banginpadr | Since osx |
| 02:12.53 | abrotman | banginpadr: this channel supports Debian, one distribution of Linux |
| 02:13.02 | banginpadr | Use some of their programms for the iPhone?! |
| 02:13.14 | abrotman | banginpadr: perhaps you would prefer to ask ##linux about your general linux questions |
| 02:13.35 | banginpadr | Aah abrotman thanks |
| 02:13.54 | banginpadr | But can you tell me what's Debian? |
| 02:14.06 | banginpadr | Where do they used then? |
| 02:14.22 | banginpadr | Cuz I thought apple use it |
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| 02:15.06 | abrotman | banginpadr: perhaps you want to start reading at www.debian.org |
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| 02:16.10 | banginpadr | Damm see I was trying to find someone friendly enough to give me a quickly since im on iPhone |
| 02:16.21 | banginpadr | And my edge connection sucks |
| 02:16.29 | abrotman | what does that have to do with Debian? |
| 02:16.43 | abrotman | you can read a website just as quickly as reading IRC |
| 02:18.06 | banginpadr | Umm ok |
| 02:18.14 | banginpadr | Thanks anyway |
| 02:18.26 | banginpadr | ##apple |
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| 02:19.28 | cnz | can windows read ext4 partitioned hard drives? |
| 02:19.45 | abrotman | i can't imagine so |
| 02:19.53 | cnz | wonderful |
| 02:19.56 | abrotman | it used to be able to read ext2/3, so maybe .. |
| 02:20.05 | somiaj | I know you use to be able to get an ext2/3 driver for windows, I would think you could find an ext4 driver. But by default no |
| 02:20.06 | KeatonT | I think add-ons exist. |
| 02:20.23 | cnz | damnit |
| 02:20.26 | abrotman | cnz: oh, they say the same driver can do it now |
| 02:20.42 | cnz | abramart, thats good |
| 02:20.44 | abrotman | http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2read/ |
| 02:20.51 | cnz | why doesn't linux allow you to format a drive with ntfs? |
| 02:20.52 | abrotman | read only IIRC |
| 02:21.19 | somiaj | ntfs-3g lets you read/write over fuse, I think you can also format with that now too |
| 02:21.38 | cnz | hhmm |
| 02:21.43 | cnz | well im in the install |
| 02:21.44 | banginpadr | cnz: Just a make a partition |
| 02:21.56 | somiaj | yea ntfs-3g contains a mkfs.ntfs binary |
| 02:22.01 | cnz | banginpadr, ok do what after making it |
| 02:22.21 | banginpadr | And install what ever you want |
| 02:22.27 | abrotman | banginpadr: you're not helping |
| 02:22.37 | banginpadr | How? |
| 02:22.38 | cnz | yeah it's going to be a secondary drive |
| 02:22.39 | banginpadr | See |
| 02:22.42 | banginpadr | I have a pc |
| 02:22.48 | cnz | for data |
| 02:22.48 | banginpadr | Running osx |
| 02:22.51 | banginpadr | Windows |
| 02:22.55 | banginpadr | And Ubuntu |
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| 02:23.07 | abrotman | banginpadr: this channel is for Debian support, not for your rambling nonsense |
| 02:23.53 | cnz | abramart, it was a dirve that windows partitioned with 2 partitions a big one and a 135mb one |
| 02:24.00 | cnz | I want to delete both and make one big one |
| 02:24.08 | abrotman | cnz: abro<tab> :) |
| 02:24.13 | cnz | but want to be able to read/write to it with linux and windows |
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| 02:24.27 | dvs | poor abramart! |
| 02:24.34 | abrotman | cnz: i used to use fat32 for that, but ntfs seems a viable option, as does ext4 (readonly fro windows though) |
| 02:24.36 | cnz | abrotman sorry |
| 02:24.42 | abrotman | dvs: i can't believe he's still using tha tnick |
| 02:24.53 | cnz | abrotman, hhmm will fat32 read the full 2tb? |
| 02:25.04 | cnz | and creating a ntfs partition isn't an option in the setup |
| 02:25.06 | abrotman | cnz: eh, doubtful |
| 02:25.18 | somiaj | cnz: sure you can look up fat32 file system size limitations on google |
| 02:25.39 | somiaj | I forget what it is, but plenty of tabels out there |
| 02:25.41 | cnz | somiaj, I can yes |
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| 02:26.33 | sney | I just use ext3 for my volume that's shared between both |
| 02:26.55 | cnz | sney, and windows is able to read/write to the ext3 ? |
| 02:27.03 | sney | the windows ext2 driver is fine as long as I make the filesystem to its standards |
| 02:27.04 | sney | yeah |
| 02:27.14 | sney | it doesn't do the journaling but everything else works |
| 02:27.23 | cnz | cool |
| 02:27.29 | abrotman | ext2 doesn't have journaling anyway! yay |
| 02:27.36 | cnz | thanks for the help guys |
| 02:27.38 | sney | just need to have 128-bit inodes. |
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| 02:27.56 | sney | abrotman: I use the windows ext2 driver to r/w an ext3 volume. |
| 02:28.08 | abrotman | sounds dangerous! |
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| 02:28.38 | sney | I'm not in windows often enough or for long enough that it's ever caused a problem |
| 02:28.45 | sney | cnz: http://fs-driver.org/faq.html |
| 02:28.48 | abrotman | i thought it was still read-only, good to know though |
| 02:29.01 | abrotman | cnz: sorry for the misinformation |
| 02:29.18 | cnz | no worries abrotman, thanks both of you for the help |
| 02:29.20 | cnz | appreciatge it |
| 02:29.28 | cnz | appreciate* |
| 02:30.31 | cnz | ext3 has lfs right |
| 02:30.34 | cnz | for large hard drives |
| 02:30.54 | sney | it's a modern filesystem. |
| 02:31.26 | cnz | k |
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| 02:36.13 | demona | Sysresccd ISO won't boot over PXE, saying sysrcd.dat is missing. I switched to trying to get it to boot kernel image instead of ISO, using NFS or HTTP, still no luck. Now I'm trying the ISO method again but apparently lost the URL I was using last time. sysrcd.dat should be linked in the PXE menu somewhere. |
| 02:37.24 | cnz | do you guys think 50gigs is too small for a / partition |
| 02:37.42 | abrotman | no |
| 02:37.44 | somiaj | cnz: what are you gonna use it for, are you making /home or data partision sepretally |
| 02:38.08 | cnz | setting up os drive for my htpc |
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| 02:38.13 | cnz | it's a 160gig drive |
| 02:38.50 | cnz | so basically it's just going to have os installed xbmc and mythtv for pvr support in xbmc |
| 02:39.04 | somiaj | depending on the use for a normal dekstop I say about 10-15gigs for root + /home for personal data is fine |
| 02:39.45 | cnz | so 10-15gigd for /root and /home? or am I reading that wrong |
| 02:40.06 | demona | I know I got further last time than "loading kernel modules" because it got all the way to complaining that it couldn't find sysrcd.dat |
| 02:40.35 | somiaj | cnz: I am just saying 10-15 gigs is good for the os plus some, depending on your amount of personal data (pics, music, videos, etc) that I server for /home -- so up to you if make it the same partitino or different |
| 02:40.51 | somiaj | cnz: my root partition is only using 3gigs (I have /home and personal data sepeerate which is where most my space gets used) |
| 02:40.52 | demona | But I'm watching w/iptraf, and it loads kernel and initrd, then just stops |
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| 02:41.18 | cnz | somiaj, yeah that's how I normally do it, just been awhile since I used such a small drive lol |
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| 02:43.06 | somiaj | cnz: yea I say you leave 10-15gigs for debian debian and you have way more than enough there, after that it is a matter of how you want to store your personal/user data |
| 02:43.29 | cnz | cool thanks |
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| 02:53.39 | fleeky | having a problem with hostapd , basically after a currently indeterminate amount of time, hostapd will stop authenticating users ,, basically timing out from what i can tell.. any ideas? |
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| 02:58.45 | cnz | sney, that driver doesn't support windows 7 :( |
| 02:59.02 | sney | cnz: it does, you just have to run the installer in compatibility mode for vista |
| 02:59.33 | cnz | hhmm |
| 02:59.46 | sney | I have done it many times. |
| 03:02.27 | cnz | sney I dunno what you did |
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| 03:02.33 | cnz | but it won't run period in win7 |
| 03:03.10 | sney | you right click on the installer, troubleshoot compatibility, select windows vista in the menu, OK, then run again. |
| 03:03.18 | cnz | yeah |
| 03:03.31 | sney | it even says that on fs-driver.org somewhere. |
| 03:03.45 | demona | Ubuntu Quetzal, Debian Wheezy, Arch x86/x64, and XCP 1.6 all load fine over PXE. Only sysresccd keeps pitching a bitch fit. |
| 03:04.04 | cnz | sney, here's the thing |
| 03:04.07 | cnz | I don't get that option |
| 03:04.18 | cnz | it just says recommand settings or trouble shoot |
| 03:04.35 | sney | uh, maybe it's in properties? I'm in debian right now so doing this from memory |
| 03:05.50 | cnz | there we go |
| 03:05.55 | cnz | sney, I should've mentioned this earlieri |
| 03:06.12 | cnz | but the htpc will only have linux |
| 03:06.24 | cnz | I want to be able to see all the hdds in it over the network |
| 03:06.40 | cnz | if I instll that driver on my laptop will it show the htpc ext3 partitions? |
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| 03:07.20 | sney | cnz: no, you don't need the filesystem driver to have them accessible over the network |
| 03:07.29 | WR47HANZ | samba |
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| 03:07.35 | sney | (unless you were running iscsi. but I know you aren't.) yeah, samba, or nfs |
| 03:07.36 | dvs | sambsa |
| 03:07.51 | cnz | ok good |
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| 03:09.24 | ShareTextingCEO | http://www.ShareTexting.com Launching March 3rd 2013! OVER 700,000+ Users already signed up! Go sign up now. FREE for life! |
| 03:12.14 | pfred1 | heh silly spammers |
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| 03:15.14 | harrison | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ0gFMUj8DY |
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| 03:36.54 | khaije|thebe | for /etc/apt/sources.list is stable/updates an alias to stable-updates or is it simply incorrect? |
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| 03:37.30 | dvs | khaije|thebe: there are both stable-updates and stable/updates |
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| 03:39.03 | khaije|thebe | dvs: are they two different things or aliases? when I browse http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/ , for example, i don't see a stable/update |
| 03:39.25 | dvs | khaije|thebe: they are two different things |
| 03:40.17 | khaije|thebe | dvs: so whats the difference? |
| 03:41.14 | dvs | khaije|thebe: stable/updates are for security updates on security.debian.org while stable-updates are for rapidly changes packages like virus signatures. |
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| 03:46.32 | alusion | I created an image [VHD] of my debian partition and it boots to grub rescue> instead |
| 03:47.00 | alusion | I wanna make an image of my windows / debian systems as they are, their settings and everything tweaked exactly as is |
| 03:47.11 | alusion | so I can boot them in VM's, what do? |
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| 03:48.29 | somiaj | alusion: you could just copy the whole file system to a vm hd, but you may have to tweak it a bit to get it to boot. the debian one shouldnt' take to much work, the windows on the other hand may as lots of drivers will change and windows doesn't always seem to like that |
| 03:49.12 | alusion | Yeah the windows one messes up. But for the debian it boots to grub rescue |
| 03:49.18 | alusion | so hmm.. |
| 03:49.22 | khaije|thebe | dvs: thanks very much! |
| 03:49.27 | alusion | my friend suggested to make a tarball of it all |
| 03:49.33 | dvs | khaije|thebe: no prob |
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| 03:50.22 | Vasistha | When I try to rotate the screen with xrandr, X crashes. I've got two nearly identical computers and one of them is fine but the other I'm seeing these crashes. Using xorg-xserver-video-radeon on both |
| 03:50.30 | somiaj | alusion: with the debian one you may just have to reinstall grub on the mbr of the vm disk image |
| 03:50.39 | somiaj | alusion: but after that it should work |
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| 03:52.04 | redwarriors25 | how can i fix error in debian error:grub only appears on monitor |
| 03:52.12 | abrotman | Vasistha: not all drivers are created equal |
| 03:52.34 | Vasistha | abrotman: nor maintained equal :P |
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| 03:53.07 | abrotman | Vasistha: works for me in wheezy w/intel |
| 03:53.16 | abrotman | Vasistha: using xrandr -o left, etc |
| 03:53.51 | Vasistha | abrotman: I have two thinkpad T42's here each using xorg-xserver-video-radeon, and one of them is fine but the other crashes |
| 03:54.11 | Vasistha | I wonder if they have the very same graphics card..... |
| 03:54.29 | alusion | somiaj, I can do that once in, how do I mount and boot it from grub rescue though? |
| 03:54.51 | somiaj | alusion: I'm not really famrilar enough with grub/your vm to tell you |
| 03:56.09 | somiaj | I belive you can tell grub where the kernel and root is from its limited cli, but no clue on the syntax |
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| 03:59.13 | david` | http://plug.dj/deep-lounge-chill-house/ if anyone want to listen&play (house music only) :) |
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| 04:05.27 | Vasistha | yeah, they seem to have the same graphics card, same version of xorg-xserver-video-radeon ... I am removing firmware-linux-free from the one on which X has been crashing |
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| 04:07.30 | sney | Vasistha: the T42 is pretty old and prone to motherboard stress fractures after being carried around for years. could just be hardware. |
| 04:08.36 | Fujiyama | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:08.38 | Fujiyama | （ﾟ､ ｡ ７ |
| 04:08.40 | Fujiyama | l、 ~ヽ |
| 04:08.42 | Fujiyama | じしf_, )ノ |
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| 04:11.34 | redwarriors25 | how to fix error 18 in debian |
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| 04:14.55 | gardllok | Hey guys, Should I upgrade to wheezy before upgrading the squeeze to 3.6.9 kernel? |
| 04:15.30 | gardllok | Do I have to step my way up or can squeeze upgrade straight to 3.6.9 kernel? |
| 04:16.33 | reddolf | You can compile the kernel yourself. |
| 04:16.39 | reddolf | Should work fine. |
| 04:17.11 | Vasistha | sney: that's an interesting theory |
| 04:17.30 | sney | Vasistha: I know it's what finally killed mine, about 5 years ago |
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| 04:17.55 | Vasistha | sney: but ... it's just fine otherwise, why would it reproducibly crash when trying to do this one thing? |
| 04:18.15 | hfuller__ | How can I make the debian startup completely, totally silent? It doesn't need a splash, it just needs to output as little text as possible. |
| 04:18.26 | hfuller__ | I mainly want to shut init up, and such. |
| 04:18.48 | Vasistha | well, a splash that is just a black box could look silent |
| 04:18.52 | hfuller__ | I tried switching to vt12 early in the boot but the VTs aren't enabled until later and I'm not sure how to enable them. |
| 04:18.53 | sney | Vasistha: you may be able to reproduce the crash with other graphical operations |
| 04:19.07 | hfuller__ | Vasistha: true, what is the currently agreed upon splash mechanism then? |
| 04:19.37 | hfuller__ | it seems like there should be a simpler way though, that's my only hangup. I only need the system to do LESS work. |
| 04:19.37 | Vasistha | sney: hmm, I seem to be able to change resolutions fine, and output to other devices without issue, at various resolutions. Not sure what else I should try. |
| 04:20.07 | Vasistha | hfuller__: wait, you want the system to do less work, or you want the system to output fewer messages about the work it's doing? |
| 04:20.50 | hfuller__ | Vasistha: output fewer messages. "do less work" as in less things to print. bit of a joke. |
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| 04:23.59 | Vasistha | hfuller__: well it's not something I've ever done, but google yields this advice: http://www.refining-linux.org/archives/4/Boot-your-Linux-silently/ |
| 04:24.07 | Vasistha | hfuller__: I would skip the kernel recompilation |
| 04:24.29 | Vasistha | hfuller__: basically the recommendation is to use a boot splash |
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| 04:25.10 | hfuller__ | Vasistha: alright, I'll just look into that further. thanks |
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| 04:32.34 | Vasistha | sney: I have a suspicion I am seeing something like this: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=675453 |
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| 04:33.15 | sney | Vasistha: that's a pretty old bug and isn't the T42's gpu either a radeon 7500 or 9000? |
| 04:33.16 | Vasistha | the puzzling part is that I am not seeing it on a similar computer, with same radeon card and same xserver-xorg-video-radeon 1:6.13.1-2+squeeze1 |
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| 04:33.29 | sney | do you have firmware-linux-nonfree installed on both machines? |
| 04:34.14 | Vasistha | sney: I don't have it on either |
| 04:34.32 | Vasistha | sney: however I did once install fglrx on the one where it's working |
| 04:34.51 | Vasistha | ...although it has been removed since |
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| 04:35.40 | ipalaus | hello, there is anyone used to dotdeb sources for php? |
| 04:35.54 | Vasistha | but I'll go ahead and install firmware-linux-nonfree on the problem machine |
| 04:36.06 | Vasistha | !tell ipalaus about anyone |
| 04:36.08 | sney | !dotdeb |
| 04:36.20 | ipalaus | Vasistha haha :) |
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| 04:36.47 | sney | !tell redwarriors25 about bat |
| 04:36.49 | Vasistha | ipalaus: looks like you want /msg dpkg dotdeb |
| 04:36.57 | ipalaus | I don't know why, once dotdeb sources added, my Debian ignores the dotdeb package and uses the default on |
| 04:37.20 | sney | ipalaus: you probably didn't run apt-get update. but dotdeb is not supported in #debian. |
| 04:38.05 | Vasistha | sney: think it's necessary to reboot after installing firmware-linux-nonfree, or just restart X? |
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| 04:38.12 | sney | Vasistha: shouldn't need either |
| 04:38.21 | sney | but, if the bug persists, go ahead with a reboot |
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| 04:39.56 | Vasistha | indeed, still buggy. rebooting. |
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| 04:40.27 | ipalaus | sney I see but more than a dotdeb problem it's, how I can use an external repository. I've don an update, upgrade, but you can see in this log that it can install dotdeb because of dependencies: http://paste.laravel.com/d0F . Can you take a look, please? |
| 04:41.07 | sney | try it with aptitude |
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| 04:42.40 | ipalaus | sney thanks, that did the trick! :) |
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| 04:56.26 | Vasistha | sney: hey, the firmware-nonfree fixed it! Thanks so much!! |
| 04:57.39 | Vasistha | or, firmware-linux-nonfree |
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| 05:00.07 | nevyn | sney: it needs the relevent module re-loaded the driver isn't informed that the firmware is now availible |
| 05:00.13 | a111 | anyone else sad that dexter killed debora? |
| 05:00.38 | nevyn | sney: so it's oneshot on module load attempt to load the firmware fails. it doesn't re-try (unless it's a usb device you re-plugin) |
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| 05:09.55 | cnz | anyone know how to fix this error/bin/sh: 1: cd: can't cd to /lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/build |
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| 05:13.51 | somiaj | cnz: what you are trying to do? Seems like your script is trying to goto a directory that is not there. So what script are you running and where did you get it? |
| 05:14.12 | cnz | somiaj, install the linux drivers for my ceton infinitv 4 card |
| 05:14.21 | somiaj | or maybe the directory just isn't executable for some reason, try ls -ld /lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/build |
| 05:14.40 | somiaj | cnz: are you even running debian? debian doee not even provide the kernel you are trying to build for? |
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| 05:14.49 | somiaj | did you try to install ubuntu drivers on debian? |
| 05:15.02 | cnz | it's source |
| 05:15.12 | somiaj | so where did you get this 3.5.0 kernel? |
| 05:15.20 | somiaj | what does uname -r say |
| 05:15.31 | cnz | the dirc doesn't excist |
| 05:15.40 | somiaj | type 'uname -r' what is the output? |
| 05:15.48 | cnz | and im running ubuntu 12.10 figured I would try here sine no one in ubuntu is responding |
| 05:16.05 | cnz | 3.5.0-17-generic |
| 05:16.23 | somiaj | this is not the place to ask for ubuntu support. As for why the build is not working I do not know, I would ask in ubuntu or better yet ask the people who made the source. |
| 05:18.19 | somiaj | sometimes google gives you good forum hits on error messages |
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| 05:27.30 | ceraphin | hi all |
| 05:27.36 | r3m | hi |
| 05:27.36 | ceraphin | I have a huge problem |
| 05:27.47 | ceraphin | after making an update on my server |
| 05:27.53 | ceraphin | he said php5 is installed |
| 05:27.57 | sney | !bat |
| 05:27.58 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 05:28.19 | ceraphin | but when i type php in command line it's give me an unknonw |
| 05:28.27 | ceraphin | like he is not installed |
| 05:28.28 | ceraphin | ... |
| 05:28.40 | r3m | I would like to know which nvidia driver is loaded between nv, nouveau, ect. i cant remember the command |
| 05:28.48 | sney | ceraphin you want the package php5-cli |
| 05:29.00 | sney | r3m: lsmod? |
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| 05:29.08 | wols_ | ceraphin: php5-cli is the package IIRC |
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| 05:29.28 | r3m | sney: thanks ! |
| 05:29.29 | wols_ | r3m: glxinfo |grep -i render |
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| 05:29.33 | ceraphin | thanks |
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| 05:35.49 | diniwed | squeeze to wheezy dist-upgrade complete, no errors.. but just about every gtk or qt app crashes, hangs, or segfaults.. mostly when I shut them down (CTRL+Q et al..) but some like fontmatrix won't even start.. Only web browsers (seamonkey, firefox, chrome) and libreoffice are exempt. |
| 05:35.53 | diniwed | any thoughts..? |
| 05:37.33 | sney | have you rebooted since the upgrade? there are some things that work best if they are in place at boot |
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| 05:38.46 | diniwed | sney: yes.. had to because I had to re-gen the nvidia proprietary stuff.. besides, I wanted to boot into the new 3.2 kernel |
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| 05:41.00 | diniwed | one thing I failed to mention: I get a glibc message on stderr telling me that I have "corrupted double-linked lists: name_of_the application".. trouble is, I googled for ages and can't really think of the right keywords for my searches.. |
| 05:41.52 | buntunub | sounds like you might have some corrupted libs |
| 05:42.01 | buntunub | did you follow the upgrade guide to the letter? |
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| 05:42.23 | buntunub | if not you may have to start from scratch and do 'er again |
| 05:42.51 | JohnnyL | I installed NVIDIA drivers with run. How do I install the other libs so that opengl works (like with openarena). WEBgl is working great right now in this config. |
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| 05:43.10 | JohnnyL | ? |
| 05:44.36 | diniwed | bununub: the odd thing is that I did some minimal testing after logging in as a different user and I mostly did not get these errors |
| 05:44.57 | buntunub | yea something is not right |
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| 05:47.16 | JohnnyL | what are some small opengl apps that i can apt-get? |
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| 05:47.20 | ket_ | just installed my first mininst (amd64 6.06). but i have no X. is it normal? |
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| 05:49.15 | diniwed | a few months back, I set up my squeeze/stable system to have a common look & feel for qt & gtk+ applications... keeping in mind I run neither gnome nor KDE.. Was a pain to get it to works but now it works fine on squeeze.. sounds like some of the resulting config files in $HOME may be causing this.. |
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| 05:52.51 | JohnnyL | help |
| 05:52.53 | JohnnyL | http://pastie.org/5505203 |
| 05:53.30 | ket_ | i hear you. i also only use i3 or xmonad so i guess i don't really need the fool kde/gnome, except perhaps for gvim |
| 05:53.58 | ket_ | (full) |
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| 05:57.19 | GinTonicool | hi guys |
| 05:57.48 | GinTonicool | i can't run 'alsamixer' |
| 05:58.16 | GinTonicool | can somebody help me ?thanks a lot |
| 05:58.36 | JohnnyL | su root |
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| 05:59.09 | GinTonicool | i have done that with root |
| 05:59.39 | GinTonicool | it# alsamixer |
| 05:59.39 | GinTonicool | cannot load mixer controls: Invalid argument |
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| 06:00.19 | JohnnyL | ha thats opensores for you |
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| 06:02.27 | Gallomimia | whoops. i'm a ubuntu guy. not that i know much about sources. but i've got this modded debian system from a vps provider and i'm trying to install gcc (why is it not already no one can guess) |
| 06:02.27 | Gallomimia | W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.org/debian-security/dists/squeeze/updates/contrib/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found |
| 06:02.37 | Gallomimia | and some other error messages. what must i do to get moving |
| 06:02.44 | Gallomimia | also, build-essential is not found |
| 06:02.58 | hfuller__ | Gallomimia: update your repos; apt-get update |
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| 06:03.10 | Gallomimia | this is the error i got when i did so |
| 06:03.38 | hfuller__ | oh right I see |
| 06:03.53 | hfuller__ | well, it looks like your apt mirror is no longer valid |
| 06:04.06 | hfuller__ | ...wait, what? that's just debian.org... |
| 06:04.09 | Gallomimia | yeah |
| 06:04.17 | Gallomimia | 404 error. the server is reached |
| 06:04.21 | Gallomimia | the url is wrong |
| 06:04.24 | hfuller__ | okay you're over my head because I don't know the repo names off the top of my head |
| 06:04.41 | hfuller__ | but what does the first entry in /etc/apt/sources.list look like? |
| 06:04.43 | Gallomimia | pokes the rest of the channel |
| 06:05.11 | Gallomimia | there are exactly two line in that file: |
| 06:05.12 | Gallomimia | deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian squeeze main contrib non-free |
| 06:05.12 | Gallomimia | deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian-security squeeze/updates main contrib non-free |
| 06:05.21 | hfuller__ | ok, replace that with this: |
| 06:05.28 | hfuller__ | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main |
| 06:05.32 | hfuller__ | err |
| 06:05.36 | hfuller__ | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main |
| 06:05.37 | hfuller__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:05.45 | hfuller__ | that's supposed to all be one line, sorry for my incompetence at IRC |
| 06:05.53 | hfuller__ | and here is the line fo rupdates: |
| 06:06.01 | Gallomimia | yeah i'm just working on the URL |
| 06:06.02 | hfuller__ | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib non-free |
| 06:06.07 | hfuller__ | well those are the ones I have |
| 06:06.09 | hfuller__ | same for both |
| 06:06.55 | JohnnyL | http://pastie.org/5505203 |
| 06:07.08 | Gallomimia | hm. error still exists. i think i got one thing wrong tho |
| 06:07.21 | hfuller__ | the exact same error? |
| 06:07.28 | hfuller__ | there might not be a non-free under updates |
| 06:07.35 | gabedwrds | I'm used to seeing security.debian.org, not debian.org/debian-security |
| 06:07.36 | Gallomimia | yeah. |
| 06:07.40 | Gallomimia | there's 3 similar errors really |
| 06:08.01 | Gallomimia | can someone point me at a place i can figure out what my sources file should be |
| 06:08.02 | hfuller__ | I think it might be that the security repo doesn't necessarily contain all of those categories. |
| 06:08.04 | Gallomimia | it's clearly snafu |
| 06:08.12 | hfuller__ | well here is my entire file |
| 06:08.24 | hfuller__ | it works fine |
| 06:08.25 | gabedwrds | "deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free" should do fine |
| 06:08.38 | hfuller__ | ...wish this would upload faster so I didn't look quite so dumb |
| 06:08.46 | hfuller__ | http://ompldr.org/vZ216OA |
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| 06:11.10 | Gallomimia | i deleted the second line of my sources file and pasted in what gabedwrds posted. seems to be working fine |
| 06:11.41 | GinTonicool | i can't run alsamixer with root ;cannot load mixer controls: Invalid argument. i've installed gnome-alsamixer |
| 06:11.47 | gabedwrds | I think the issue was that ftp.debian.org mirrors don't necessarily carry the security updates |
| 06:11.56 | GinTonicool | can you guys help me ,thanks |
| 06:12.10 | ceraphin | after my update of php5 it give me PHP Warning: PHP Startup: apc: Unable to initialize module |
| 06:12.11 | ceraphin | Module compiled with module API=20090626 |
| 06:12.11 | ceraphin | PHP compiled with module API=20100525 |
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| 06:17.39 | ceraphin | after my update of php5 it give me PHP Warning: PHP Startup: apc: Unable to initialize module |
| 06:17.39 | ceraphin | Module compiled with module API=20090626 |
| 06:17.39 | ceraphin | PHP compiled with module API=20100525 |
| 06:17.46 | ceraphin | no one have ever had that? |
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| 06:20.19 | somiaj | ceraphin: what version of debian and how did you update php..sounds like a version conflict somewhere |
| 06:20.40 | ceraphin | squeeze |
| 06:20.49 | ceraphin | apt-get upgrade |
| 06:21.29 | somiaj | can you put your sources.list at paste.debian.net. Do you have any non standard sources? |
| 06:22.09 | ceraphin | yes |
| 06:22.11 | ceraphin | no |
| 06:22.38 | ceraphin | http://paste.debian.net/215355/ |
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| 06:23.26 | Gallomimia | lots of unstable stuff. probably got the version mismatch there |
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| 06:23.45 | somiaj | you shouldn't be getting a conflict like that in squeeze unless you installed unstadard packages.why do you have ubuntu, unstable, prosody, and old squeeze backports in your sources.list |
| 06:23.51 | somiaj | you told me you didn't have any nonstandard sources and you have plenty |
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| 06:24.06 | somiaj | not sure which is worse the ubuntu ppa or the unstable, both will hurt you in an upgrade |
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| 06:25.10 | ceraphin | ubuntu is only for on package don't go on others |
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| 06:26.22 | somiaj | I have no idea how many packages are in that repo, but I know it will cause conflicts. To fix your machine correctly you are gonna have to track down every package that is not in squeeze offically and downgrade to squeezes version. Since you had an unstable source you could have a majority of your system running unstable (I don't know if you pinned it or not) |
| 06:26.25 | ceraphin | and Unstable is a pin-priority under stable |
| 06:26.36 | somiaj | still you pull in unstable libs and you are not stable anymore. |
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| 06:30.47 | nvz | this feels like a really dumb question but how do I get something like grep, sed, w/e to process a match expression? |
| 06:31.17 | nvz | i wanna match image tags with the expression <img[^<]+?> |
| 06:31.48 | nvz | can't get it to give me only those tags |
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| 06:32.16 | JohnnyL | so no help with opengl? |
| 06:32.40 | somiaj | JohnnyL: do you want programing help? or installing paticular opengl software on debian? |
| 06:32.52 | JohnnyL | i need help setting up opengl on debian |
| 06:33.03 | JohnnyL | I have webgl working, just not apps like openarena |
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| 06:36.38 | somiaj | yea not sure what libaries you need. mesa is the standard core, but I know there are various other libaries that stuff uses. Have you looked at the openarena docs and see what opengl libaries it requires then try to find them in debian? |
| 06:36.58 | somiaj | oh it is a debian game, so I assume you just installed it that way |
| 06:37.37 | somiaj | JohnnyL: you should try glxinfo, xvinfo, and glxgears and see if you have basic 3d support. Also what is your video card and driver? |
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| 06:48.51 | zykotick9 | i'd like to point out two small issues with dpkg factoids http://paste.debian.net/215358/ is there a channel on oftc for such dpkg-bot issues? |
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| 06:50.08 | dondelelcaro | zykotick9: so fix the factoids |
| 06:50.31 | zykotick9 | dondelelcaro: and how would one go about doing that? |
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| 06:51.46 | dondelelcaro | zykotick9: and help find actually is correct, but it's for judd, not dpkg. |
| 06:52.22 | dondelelcaro | zykotick9: /msg dpkg help corrections |
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| 06:53.20 | zykotick9 | dondelelcaro: yes, for judd it replies better ;) thanks for the <help corrections> pointer. |
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| 07:00.16 | levabalkin | hi, is there a way to assign an entire /64 ipv6 range to a single interface without declaring the whole number of 2^64 interface aliases ? I remember I red somewhere about assigning range to interface but I cannot find the reference |
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| 07:00.27 | levabalkin | it seems possible in redhat ... |
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| 07:03.09 | almoxarife | is it possible to re-set the dpkg database? speaking of testbed, i installed/forced a 64bit app to install in order to trouble shot someone elses (same mistake) and i am stuck, cant force it to remove/purge or forget about it, any ideas? |
| 07:03.25 | almoxarife | the system is 32bit |
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| 07:04.43 | jelly-home | almoxarife: which debian release and which package have you installed? Can you pastebin the complete output of a reomval attempt with dpkg? |
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| 07:05.26 | almoxarife | its not debian install, it is xfce-buntu |
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| 07:05.51 | jelly-home | ask in ##linux or the channel for your distro, then |
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| 07:06.21 | JohnnyL | somiaj: geoforce 7800gt |
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| 07:09.38 | JohnnyL | i have glxinfo |
| 07:09.39 | JohnnyL | it works |
| 07:10.00 | somiaj | does it say you have direct rendering does glxgears work |
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| 07:16.55 | JohnnyL | aparently apt-get can't see glxgears |
| 07:17.08 | JohnnyL | you ahve to remember webgl works great, 3d and all |
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| 07:17.40 | JohnnyL | unable to locate glxgears |
| 07:17.46 | JohnnyL | after apt-get install glxgears |
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| 07:18.41 | JohnnyL | http://pastie.org/5505203 |
| 07:18.47 | shadow_fox | whys that my theme option not working |
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| 07:19.24 | shadow_fox | in my menu the theme installer its just says starting theme installer then nothing shows up |
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| 07:44.27 | JohnnyL | wow |
| 07:44.36 | madmuppet | Im trying to install linux-headers using the command apt-get |
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| 07:48.51 | jelly-home | JohnnyL: /msg judd file bin/glxgears |
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| 08:00.10 | madmuppet | I have a base install of wheezy and I am trying to install linux-headers .. I get a message saying couldnt find any package by regrex 'linux-headers-3.2.0-3-amd64' what can I do to install them? |
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| 08:03.23 | GinTonicool | i can't run alsamixer as root,i've installed gnome-alsamixer and alsa-uitls ,base,oss,source |
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| 08:04.27 | bubull3 | madmuppet: try linux-header-3.2..0-4... |
| 08:05.20 | GinTonicool | it# uname -a |
| 08:05.21 | GinTonicool | Linux legend 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Thu Nov 3 04:23:54 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 08:05.21 | bubull3 | madmuppet: linux-headers-3.2.0-4... |
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| 08:06.15 | GinTonicool | what's your mean |
| 08:06.15 | madmuppet | yeah I just did a cache search for -3 and theres nothing |
| 08:06.42 | GinTonicool | it# gnome-alsamixer |
| 08:06.42 | GinTonicool | (gnome-alsamixer:6290): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: |
| 08:06.43 | GinTonicool | None of the authentication protocols specified are supported. |
| 08:06.43 | GinTonicool | (gnome-alsamixer:6290): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_type_instance_get_private: assertion `instance != NULL && instance->g_class != NULL' failed |
| 08:06.43 | GinTonicool | Segmentation fault |
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| 08:08.49 | GinTonicool | it# gnome-alsamixer |
| 08:08.50 | GinTonicool | (gnome-alsamixer:6290): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: |
| 08:08.50 | GinTonicool | None of the authentication protocols specified are supported. |
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| 08:09.19 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell GinTonicool about paste |
| 08:09.44 | JohnnyL | jelly-home: thanks but I get the same dependency error if I try to install mesa-utils (where glxgears is) |
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| 08:18.15 | GinTonicool | i can't open those paste links |
| 08:18.20 | GinTonicool | o my god |
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| 08:19.11 | safridzal | i dont know if this is mint problem or debian problem (because i install mint KDE, then point the repo to debian testing and apt-get dist upgrade). My akregator cannot show date on the column, is that normal? |
| 08:19.56 | safridzal | i've googling for about 2 hours and got nothing |
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| 08:29.34 | ChrisH | !mint |
| 08:29.34 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
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| 08:32.08 | safridzal | ChrisH: ok then.. thanks :D |
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| 08:44.49 | neon__ | I tried installing package mediawiki-extensions, and then apt-get want to remove mediawiki. It doesn't make sense. I want the extensions for the package mediawiki. How can it demand to remove it? |
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| 08:46.33 | neon__ | maybe it is because I took media wiki from testing,where i am in stable? |
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| 09:03.55 | neon__ | ok, I took the extension package from testing, and now apt-get is acting out on me |
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| 09:04.24 | neon__ | it had dependency problem, wanted me to run apt-get -f install |
| 09:04.37 | tralala | neon__, mixing testing and stable can be dangerous |
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| 09:04.48 | neon__ | and now it want to download 847MB of aditional disk space |
| 09:05.08 | neon__ | tralala, I see that now. |
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| 09:05.13 | neon__ | is sorry |
| 09:05.32 | neon__ | didn't mean to anger the apt-get |
| 09:05.35 | tralala | neon__, uninstall the extensions and try backports or backport it yourself |
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| 09:06.05 | neon__ | tralala, it doesn't have a backport |
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| 09:06.12 | neon__ | tralala, i don't know to backport |
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| 09:06.46 | tralala | get the _source_ package from testing and compile it using dpkg-buildpackage |
| 09:07.28 | neon__ | ah |
| 09:07.34 | tralala | !simple sid backport |
| 09:07.35 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 09:07.53 | neon__ | tralala, I don't think it has any machine code |
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| 09:08.16 | neon__ | tralala, all downloads I did were machine indepentet |
| 09:08.24 | neon__ | tralala, it is probably all scripts |
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| 09:08.41 | tralala | maybe it expects newer api from mediawiki |
| 09:09.00 | neon__ | who? |
| 09:09.06 | neon__ | apt-get? |
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| 09:09.15 | tralala | the extensions package |
| 09:09.25 | neon__ | ah |
| 09:09.43 | tralala | which means you might need to backport the mediawiki instead |
| 09:10.12 | neon__ | I did apt-get purge mediawiki-extensions, and got E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution |
| 09:11.13 | tralala | did you install anything else? did any other packages got pulled by mediawiki-extensions? |
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| 09:12.23 | neon__ | tralala, mediawiki-extensions didn't isntall, it is just a meta package, so I downloaded ..-base, and ...-collection, where the problem started |
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| 09:12.41 | tralala | remove them |
| 09:12.53 | neon__ | I am trying but it doesn't let me |
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| 09:14.20 | tralala | neon__, with aptitude's interactive mode you can use a filter to see which packages are in a state "broken" and remove them |
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| 09:14.47 | tralala | it's a great opportunity to learn something about aptitude |
| 09:15.02 | neon__ | right |
| 09:15.23 | colun | Hello, I search to rebuild the kernel of wheezy with grsecurity patch package but make-kpkg return "Unknown option: added-patches". Do you link a document that explain the rebuild with a debian kernel patch package ? Thanks |
| 09:15.41 | tralala | neon__, did you pin testing to a lower priority than stable? |
| 09:15.56 | neon__ | tralala, I am more of a synaptic person |
| 09:16.48 | neon__ | tralala, no I didn't pin. I didn't mention testing, I just downloaded the *.deb from the site, and dpkg -i *.deb them |
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| 09:17.55 | tralala | neon__, perhaps you can do the same with synaptic. Then from where does apt want to get the 800M of archives? |
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| 09:18.47 | neon__ | tralala, it want me to install a zillion packages that I don't know anything about. |
| 09:19.20 | neon__ | tralala, aptitude in the blue section on top of the display say #Broken: 2 |
| 09:19.42 | neon__ | tralala, but I don't know how to navigate there |
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| 09:20.47 | tralala | neon__, yes, but from what source are all the packages coming? What's in your sources.list? |
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| 09:21.18 | neon__ | tralala, I have only squeeze |
| 09:21.24 | neon__ | tralala, and backports |
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| 09:24.06 | tralala | neon__, ok, so find the aptitude's manual online and read on filters and advanced search |
| 09:24.16 | neon__ | tralala, the problem is that there was a dependency problem, it needed php5-libcurl, and now |
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| 09:24.37 | neon__ | tralala, aptitude sugested to resolve it, and now I got stuck in the menu :/ |
| 09:25.01 | neon__ | a good point to rtfm |
| 09:25.43 | thesadmafioso | How big of a culture shock would it be for someone who's introduction to Linux was Ubuntu to switch to Debian? |
| 09:25.51 | tralala | when you learn how to use advanced search, put a filter to display all the broken packages and just remove them |
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| 09:25.56 | thesadmafioso | knows Ubuntu is based on Debian |
| 09:26.30 | neon__ | tralala, the resolver offered to install a package that caused the dependency problem |
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| 09:27.29 | neon__ | tralala, but I examined it, and now I don't know how to operate the user interface |
| 09:27.42 | tralala | thesadmafioso, debian is less polished, integrated and doesn't target the non-tech user as much as Ubuntu does, so if you're not comfortable with tweaking your system it might be intimidating at first |
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| 09:28.07 | ChrisH | thesadmafioso: should not be so shocking :) |
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| 09:28.55 | tralala | neon__, it's all in the manual. The resolver is not always doing the best job, but you could try it once you know your way around. |
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| 09:29.51 | ompaul | thesadmafioso: no ppas there are almost direct translations, things might be a tad more terse but they work |
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| 09:30.53 | ompaul | thesadmafioso: just to get used to it - stick with debian stable stay away from the bleeding edge for a few months while you learn stuff about administration and then happy days |
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| 09:31.12 | thesadmafioso | tralala: I am leaning toward debian for a desktop/server hybrid. I find that the deeper I delve into Linux in general the more tech savvy I become. :) |
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| 09:31.24 | thesadmafioso | Does debian support in place upgrades to the OS itself? |
| 09:31.32 | ompaul | yes |
| 09:31.44 | neon__ | tralala, I press q and it doesn't exit |
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| 09:32.15 | thesadmafioso | ompaul: What do you mean, no ppas? You aren't allowed to add personal repos for software? :P |
| 09:32.19 | ompaul | thesadmafioso: obviously if you create a delta between debian and debian + your changes you have to deal with that |
| 09:32.23 | tralala | neon__, q exits one view at a time. Try pressing it again. |
| 09:32.32 | neon__ | tralala, the search menu is open, bottom line present 'search forwards' |
| 09:32.33 | ompaul | thesadmafioso: can't stop you but see what I just said about delta |
| 09:32.52 | neon__ | tralala, I pressed a lot of times |
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| 09:32.58 | neon__ | tralala, no change |
| 09:33.00 | tralala | neon__, use ESC to get out of the search menu |
| 09:33.02 | ompaul | !tell thesadmafioso about frankendebian |
| 09:33.13 | neon__ | getting claustrophobic |
| 09:33.31 | neon__ | tralala, no change with esc |
| 09:33.59 | tralala | maybe TAB will get you to the cancel button? or enter will get you out? |
| 09:34.00 | neon__ | tralala, I did ^C, now I see a lot of text lines |
| 09:34.20 | neon__ | E: Unable to locate package PP! |
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| 09:34.31 | neon__ | E: Unable to locate package I+#I |
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| 09:34.44 | neon__ | E: Unable to locate package install |
| 09:35.22 | tralala | neon__, are you still in aptitude? |
| 09:35.26 | neon__ | no |
| 09:35.38 | thesadmafioso | ompaul: I see about the ppas. Thanks. :) |
| 09:35.45 | neon__ | I reenter, and pressed ! so it will do the remove 2 package suggestion |
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| 09:36.20 | ompaul | thesadmafioso: in 99.9% of cases people don't need later or external resources - do you do music stuff on that pc |
| 09:36.21 | tralala | ok, do it |
| 09:36.23 | thesadmafioso | I am thinking of switching to Debian for my desktop like I said, I really don't like where Canonical is going with Ubuntu. |
| 09:36.43 | thesadmafioso | ompaul: Other than organizing it in a media player and playing it, no. |
| 09:37.06 | thesadmafioso | ompaul: I also rip records with Audacity but that should be supported I would think? |
| 09:37.13 | thesadmafioso | Vinyl records, I mean. |
| 09:37.27 | ompaul | it should be |
| 09:37.48 | ompaul | don't do it myself |
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| 09:38.42 | thesadmafioso | does an apt-cache show |
| 09:38.57 | neon__ | tralala, it doesn't seem to help apt-get |
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| 09:39.11 | thesadmafioso | Audacity: Original-Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Maintainers |
| 09:39.23 | thesadmafioso | Seems like I should be fine there. |
| 09:40.18 | tralala | neon__, did you actually remove the packages? |
| 09:40.26 | jwlliams | I run a command `free -m` and it shows that 1234 in the section of free column. Does that mean my system still have 1234m free physical mem for use? |
| 09:40.52 | neon__ | tralala, I went to synaptic, and it removed the packages, and now apt-get seem to function well |
| 09:41.07 | thesadmafioso | I have been running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS for about a year now and finding out about all this stuff Canonical is doing with Amazon really turns me off. |
| 09:41.24 | tralala | jwlliams, there's some caching going on so the actual free memory can be more (the buffers line) |
| 09:41.33 | pmo | 1 button or apt command to fix it |
| 09:41.35 | thesadmafioso | Thanks for the suggestions/info/opinions, I appreciate the input. |
| 09:43.05 | jwlliams | tralala: yeah, the `-/+ buffers/cache: ' has value something like "1024 2048" |
| 09:43.34 | jwlliams | So how can I calculate the actual physical free mem? |
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| 09:43.57 | tralala | !free ram |
| 09:43.58 | dpkg | Unlike information, your computer's memory does *not* want to be free. Free RAM is wasted RAM! Linux tries to use free physical memory for caching files from disk which speeds up disk access considerably. Linux releases RAM from these caches if programs need it. If you want to know how much physical memory the free(1) tool says you have left for program use, it's 'free' + 'buffers' + 'cache'. Also ask me about <swapwake>. |
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| 09:45.34 | jwlliams | Does that mean the physical free mem is calculated by adding free + buffers + cache section? |
| 09:45.51 | jwlliams | That value is larger than my physical mem. |
| 09:45.56 | jwlliams | so I am confused. |
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| 09:47.02 | tralala | it is? |
| 09:47.09 | tralala | can you paste the full output? |
| 09:47.15 | tralala | pastebin |
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| 09:48.46 | tralala | neon__, that's good to hear. I recommend that you get familiar with debian's package management before attempting mixed sources again. |
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| 09:52.32 | jwlliams | tralala: http://paste.debian.net/215382/ |
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| 09:52.57 | jwlliams | 4+ 2 + 5 is larger than 8, which is my mem available. But I guess I interpret the wrong way. |
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| 09:54.04 | tralala | jwlliams, or the factoid is wrong |
| 09:54.21 | tralala | you'd have to do a web search |
| 09:54.57 | jwlliams | tralala: what does factoid mean? Sorry for my bad English. |
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| 09:56.33 | tralala | jwlliams, your english is fine. Factoid is an entry in dpkg's database |
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| 09:57.18 | tralala | by "the factoid" I meant the "free ram" info dpkg gave you |
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| 10:04.53 | lanoxx | can someone point me to the maintainers channel? |
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| 10:07.33 | bniels | jwlliams, 4453+154+511 is 5119. and that's what the second line with numbers says, too (apart from the minor rounding inaccuracy). the "-/+ buffers/cache" is the numbers already added for you |
| 10:07.48 | bniels | *is 5118 |
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| 10:19.59 | woshty | is there no sane-frontends package in debian? |
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| 10:23.02 | babilen | woshty: No, there isn't. Why do you think that there should be one? |
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| 10:23.36 | joltcan | woshty: apt-cache search ^sane ? |
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| 10:27.01 | _strog | hello people, i have rented a virtual server from strato.de where a debian is running on it. now since it is in german i want to change the language into english. how can i do that? |
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| 10:27.33 | diabel | Hello |
| 10:27.33 | bniels | _strog, dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 10:29.04 | woshty | babilen: i am looking for scanadf, the hp-scan utility is unusable |
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| 10:29.36 | _strog | bniels: ok which one i choose "en_US ISO-8859-1" or "en_US.UTF-8"? |
| 10:29.52 | bniels | _strog, i suggest en_US.UTF-8 |
| 10:30.01 | _strog | bniels: ok done |
| 10:30.52 | _strog | bniels: when i do "man ls" and quit the manpage, i get "man: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct" |
| 10:31.00 | babilen | dpkg: tell woshty -about apt-file |
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| 10:31.12 | bniels | _strog, you may need to log out and in again until it properly takes effect |
| 10:31.15 | babilen | woshty: apt-file search -x "bin/scanadf" → sane |
| 10:31.30 | _strog | bniels: maybe reboot? |
| 10:31.33 | _strog | is better? |
| 10:31.41 | bniels | _strog, no, just log out and in again |
| 10:31.41 | babilen | woshty: Why do you think that there should be a sane-frontends package? |
| 10:31.48 | _strog | bniels: ok |
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| 10:32.41 | _strog | bniels: when I log in sucessfully i get this message: "-bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (de_DE.utf8): No such file or directory" |
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| 10:33.11 | bniels | _strog, did you change all settings when doing "dpkg-reconfigure locales"? |
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| 10:33.33 | bniels | _strog, there's the question what locales you want to generate and also the question what locale shall be the default |
| 10:33.34 | _strog | bniels: i went through everything |
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| 10:33.41 | woshty | babilen: hrm, apparently not awake yet .. read about it somewhere |
| 10:33.47 | _strog | default english |
| 10:33.58 | _strog | bniels: default english everything |
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| 10:34.43 | babilen | _strog: Are you sure that you generate the de_DE.utf8 locale? |
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| 10:35.05 | babilen | dpkg: tell hyp -about wwwr |
| 10:35.06 | bniels | _strog, there's still a LC_ALL setting coming from somewhere. maybe strato customized one of the startup files |
| 10:35.25 | _strog | bniels: ok and where do i change that setting? |
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| 10:35.48 | bniels | _strog, you have to find where it is. maybe look into /etc/profile or grep the /etc directory for it |
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| 10:36.21 | babilen | _strog: I assume that your locale is set somehwere in ~/.bash* or ~/.profile |
| 10:36.22 | bniels | _strog, also, look into ~/.profile and ~/.bashrc |
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| 10:36.32 | _strog | ok |
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| 10:38.14 | bniels | _strog, debian doesn't set LC_ALL by default (because it overrides all other choices), which is a strong indication that it was an external customization |
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| 10:39.10 | _strog | bniels: your first suggestion was correct! i searched /etc/profile and at the end there it was all set |
| 10:39.17 | _strog | thank you guys |
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| 10:42.32 | bniels | _strog, i suggest you remove the LC_ALL line completely, so what you configure in dpkg-reconfigure locales takes effect and you are still able to configure specific subaspects (like dates or whatever) differently |
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| 10:44.09 | mafa | hi all |
| 10:44.11 | mafa | i ve got a question, i ve just one raid partition named /dev/md0 where i ve mounted "/", is it possible to rename it in /dev/md1 ? |
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| 10:46.12 | _strog | bniels: beside LC_ALL there is also LANGUAGE and LANG these also? |
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| 10:48.55 | bniels | _strog, yes, i'd remove them, too. they all override what you configured in dpkg-reconfigure locales. you can just add a # in front of the lines to comment them out. |
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| 10:49.25 | _strog | bniels: ok thanks |
| 10:49.43 | jargon | why does this work on the command line but not in a bash script? rm /srv/squid/log/store.log.[0-9] |
| 10:52.43 | bniels | _strog, after applying and re-logging-out/in, you can use the "locale" command to verify the current settings. LANG= should be set to what you configured earlier, LC_* should reflect the same setting and LC_ALL= should be empty |
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| 10:54.17 | _strog | bniels: ok 1 sec let me check |
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| 10:55.07 | _strog | bniels: yep all just like u predicted |
| 10:55.12 | babilen | jargon: Are you sure that it is a BASH script? How do you call it? Which shebang do you use? |
| 10:55.22 | bniels | _strog, okay, that looks fine now |
| 10:56.09 | _strog | bniels: thanks for the help |
| 10:56.53 | bniels | _strog, you're welcome. it can be a pain in the ass to fix when the hosters customize the distro and don't really do it right |
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| 10:58.11 | _strog | bniels: and u know what the even worse thing is? |
| 10:58.24 | _strog | bniels: they don't have a clue how they did that |
| 10:59.09 | bniels | _strog, yeah, i can imagine that. sometimes, your best bet is to use the rescue facility and do a clean debian install |
| 10:59.40 | _strog | lol |
| 10:59.59 | _strog | bniels btw another question |
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| 11:00.39 | bniels | sure, ask away. i'm off to lunch break now, tho. maybe someone else can help or i can help later, when i return |
| 11:02.00 | _strog | bniels: my /etc/network/interfaces looks wierd. here a pastebin: http://pastebin.com/vySbnZ7P |
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| 11:02.29 | _strog | bniels: could you say y they made venet0:0? |
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| 11:05.53 | _strog | bniels: and "dmesg" is missing apparently |
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| 11:06.56 | _strog | bniels: correction, it is there but no output |
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| 11:14.13 | ChrisH | _strog: what are you asking? What is vnet0 used for? |
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| 11:15.47 | synamics | Do anyone know why the general of binaries compiled by Debian haven't Stack Canary?eee |
| 11:16.20 | _strog | ChrisH: it is the name of the interface that has been set my strato.de |
| 11:16.30 | _strog | ChrisH: the nic |
| 11:16.48 | dagerik | synamics: well, there is a speed penalty for it. also maybe some stuff breaks when they add that option to gcc. i dont really know just guessing |
| 11:17.28 | synamics | dagerik, I thought it was because the version of the Debian stable gcc do not compile with it for default |
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| 11:17.37 | synamics | the version stable of gcc does not |
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| 11:19.24 | ChrisH | _strog: I still do not understand what your are asking for... |
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| 11:23.08 | _strog | ChrisH: well in debian you have a nic usually designated as eth0 or eth1 ... ethX but here it is different. y? |
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| 11:24.39 | ChrisH | _strog: I googled for that NIC Name and found OpenVZ uses ot creates them. |
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| 11:25.25 | _strog | ... ok |
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| 11:26.57 | geekwani | hi.. i installed debian testing base system along with system utilities on a usb drive, using virtualbox (for making a portable debian).. I then installed gnome-core & xorg.. but now "startx" does not load desktop environment.. ? what direction should i take ? |
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| 11:27.27 | ChrisH | geekwani: /etc/init.d/gdm start ?? |
| 11:28.07 | geekwani | @ChrisH didn't try that.. would that gdm3 for gnome3 ? |
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| 11:28.37 | ChrisH | geekwani: dunno... check filesystem and/or dpkg -L or aptitude search gdm or ... |
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| 11:29.13 | geekwani | i explored.. i think graphic driver is set to virtualbox |
| 11:29.33 | geekwani | i need to change it to intel.. |
| 11:30.05 | geekwani | couldn't figure out how ? |
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| 11:31.59 | ChrisH | geekwani: you are still using Virtual box? Then enable remote connect and rdesktop to use the VM... I do not understand your objektives |
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| 11:38.52 | BadCodSmell | How do I get my xorg.confg back? |
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| 11:39.06 | BadCodSmell | apt-get --reinstall install xorg does not work |
| 11:39.06 | Cuge | you reinstall ;) |
| 11:39.10 | BadCodSmell | wrong |
| 11:39.20 | geekwani | @ChrisH gdm3 is running.. but when i start X, i get " No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section" " error |
| 11:40.56 | BadCodSmell | I vaguely remember years ago there being a command to auto generate xorg's conf |
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| 11:41.48 | BadCodSmell | But why doesn't --reinstall restore it? |
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| 11:42.24 | Yeasi | hi guys , i have issu with ssh , when i'm tryin to connect somewhere i'm getting "modulus too small: 512 < minimum 768 bits" |
| 11:42.37 | geekwani | @ChrisH I used Virtualbox to install debian base system to USB drive (to prevent any mis-happenings to actual hard drive).. then i boot using USB drive on my computer.... install gnome & xorg.. this way i can plug usb with OS to certain computers, to work instantly.. |
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| 11:43.07 | Yeasi | i have changed sshd_config ServerKeyBits to 512 but..... |
| 11:43.43 | p0g0 | BadCodSmell: fwiw, I have heard folks tell of using a live CD boot disk, one close to the installed OS, and cloning the xorg.conf that the boot disk constructs. I've not tried it myself. |
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| 11:44.04 | BadCodSmell | That's just retarded |
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| 11:44.41 | Yeasi | anybody helps me? :-) |
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| 11:49.31 | BadCodSmell | X -configure seg faults |
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| 11:56.41 | Walex | Yeasi: unless you have Platinum Account Code you have to be patient :-) |
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| 11:57.45 | Walex | Yeasi: but it looks like a key you have is too short for the remote system |
| 11:58.24 | gobra | Hello! I installed i8kutils using synaptic but lxde doesn't show it anywhere. Also, typing i8kutils in the terminal doesn't work. How can I start it? |
| 11:58.33 | Yeasi | Walex: i think it is vice versa... |
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| 11:59.40 | Yeasi | Walex: can i fix it without remote system configuration? |
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| 12:05.10 | ChrisH | Yeasi: ServerKeyBits is ssh V1 only, from man sshd_config. ssh V1 is (IIRC) considered unsafe. can you pastebin ssh -v user@server ? |
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| 12:12.05 | XATRIX | Hi guys, what does mean ? |
| 12:12.07 | XATRIX | The following packages have been kept back: |
| 12:12.07 | XATRIX | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:12.07 | XATRIX | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded. |
| 12:16.26 | babilen | dpkg: tell XATRIX -about bat |
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| 12:17.20 | gobra | Does anyone know how to start i8kutils? |
| 12:18.43 | babilen | gobra: Did you read /usr/share/doc/i8kutils/* and relevant manpages already? |
| 12:18.59 | nkuttler | gobra: start? try i8k<tab><tab> |
| 12:20.08 | babilen | gobra: And what exactly do you mean by start? AFAICT the package simply installs a number of tools that you can run from the command line if the kernel module is loaded. |
| 12:21.01 | wols_ | !tell XATRIX about kept back |
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| 12:21.24 | XATRIX | Who's gonna tell me about kept back ? :) |
| 12:21.28 | gobra | babilen: Well I should have been more specific-apologies for that. I want to configure the fan of an inspiron laptop so that it won't run all the time. |
| 12:21.31 | wols_ | dpkg did |
| 12:21.31 | dpkg | i don't know, wols_ |
| 12:22.04 | ChrisH | gobra: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/amd64/i8kutils/filelist suggests man i8kfan |
| 12:22.27 | babilen | gobra: Ah, it also comes with two daemons. Namely "i8kbuttons" and "i8kmon" what does "service i8kbuttons start" and "service i8kmon start" give you ? |
| 12:22.50 | XATRIX | wols_, So,looks like i have to run upgrade-full? |
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| 12:23.09 | babilen | gobra: Ah, i8kfan might be what you want -- I have never used that software, but I would start by reading the (extensive) documentation and relevant manpages. |
| 12:23.13 | gobra | babilen: service i8kbuttons start gives me "Not starting. Disabled via /etc/default/i8kbuttons. ... (warning). " |
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| 12:23.49 | gobra | gobra: service i8kmon start gives me "Not starting. Disabled via /etc/default/i8kmon. ... (warning). " |
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| 12:24.17 | gobra | babilen: Can I mess my laptop with this software? :) |
| 12:24.17 | babilen | XATRIX: Please show us the *complete* output and your command along with the other information requested by dpkg (cf. "/msg dpkg bat") -- It is, however, likely that you simply have to run "apt-get dist-upgrade" in lieu of "apt-get ugrade", but I have no idea what you are doing. Paste all that to http://paste.debian.net |
| 12:24.27 | cardiel | when i run top, which memory is used by the process. virt or res? |
| 12:24.47 | gobra | babilen: I am a big debian noob :) |
| 12:25.07 | babilen | gobra: I don't think so, but you might want to look at /etc/debtags/i8k* -- I have no idea if either i8kbutton or i8kmon controls the fan though. I would be surprised if the former does, but the latter might actually do that. |
| 12:25.26 | wols_ | cardiel: res. virt is virtual memory |
| 12:25.40 | gobra | babilen: Thanks a lot. :) |
| 12:25.58 | cardiel | wols_: ok thanks |
| 12:26.34 | XATRIX | babilen, http://hastebin.com/cojehoyida.avrasm |
| 12:26.42 | babilen | gobra: If you look at "man i8kmon" and the description of the i8kmon daemon you would realise that it is what you are looking for. You might have to enable that in /etc/default/i8kmon though |
| 12:26.45 | StyXman | I have several devices which can see and connect to a wifi router, but a Debian Sid machine does not even see the AP (but it can see others around). I tried with iwconfig by hand, after disabling network manager and wicd, but iwconfig afterwards says that it's not associated to any AP, and dhclient does not get any lease. any ideas? |
| 12:27.01 | wols_ | cardiel: but it just could be in swap then. still "virt" then but it's also actually "used" |
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| 12:27.11 | cardiel | wols_: do you know if cached memory is used by new processes or do the new processes only use free memory? |
| 12:27.29 | wols_ | cardiel: all memory unused is cache |
| 12:27.29 | babilen | XATRIX: You want #maemo as you are not running Debian |
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| 12:27.44 | XATRIX | Maemo is running debian |
| 12:27.50 | XATRIX | But yes, ok, thanks |
| 12:28.06 | wols_ | StyXman: are you sure your wlan adapter works properly and you have loaded all needed software for it. what wlan chip is it and what does your kernel log say? |
| 12:28.30 | cardiel | wols_: ok, on my vps i have 747m , used 181m and cached 492m.. so that means that the 492m cached can be used by new processes? |
| 12:28.31 | wols_ | XATRIX: it's not. never was, never will. if it were, it'd be called "debian", not maemo, wouldn't it? |
| 12:28.35 | babilen | XATRIX: We *only* support pure Debian for a number of technical and social reasons -- Furthermore, your problem is almost certainly Maemo specific and you *have* to ask there. |
| 12:28.43 | wols_ | cardiel: of course |
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| 12:29.06 | StyXman | wols_: it used to work with my old router. now I moved in another house and it doesn't work with the new router |
| 12:29.09 | XATRIX | babilen, thanks , i got it. I will ask #maemo |
| 12:29.18 | XATRIX | wols_, ok.. thanks |
| 12:29.38 | babilen | gobra: Ok, I had a look at the software. You want to edit /etc/default/i8kmon and change "ENABLED=0" to "ENABLED=1" -- You can then run "service i8kmon start" to start the daemon |
| 12:29.41 | wols_ | StyXman: iwlist would work then unless it's a hardware problem. as I said: check your kernel log |
| 12:29.56 | babilen | XATRIX: Thanks for your understanding and good luck |
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| 12:30.08 | bluesm | Hi. |
| 12:30.11 | gobra | babilen: Thanks a lot :) |
| 12:30.26 | XATRIX | babilen, Yea, stay safe! |
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| 12:31.40 | bluesm | How to set wireless network , in bash. Find all available networks (with hidden) and set password if needed ? And connect ? |
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| 12:31.50 | bluesm1 | Have you answered ? I have problem with network :) |
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| 12:32.21 | babilen | bluesm1: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse is the best I can give you (or you have to be more specific) |
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| 12:32.33 | StyXman | wols_: ah, sorry, I didn't read that part. it's a intel 3945, iwl3945 is loaded. dmesg shows nothing relevant, except for 'wlan0: link is not ready' |
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| 12:33.29 | wols_ | StyXman: play around with rfkill I guess. check for hardware switches, etc |
| 12:33.38 | StyXman | in syslog I only see NM shutting down and dhclient's logs |
| 12:33.58 | StyXman | wols_: it sees others APs in the same building/block |
| 12:35.26 | wols_ | and the other devices see your "invisible" AP? |
| 12:36.28 | StyXman | hmm, the wifi light does not turn on, even after unloading/loading iwl3945... |
| 12:36.43 | StyXman | wols_: I'm connected throught it right now |
| 12:36.47 | ompaul | manual switches are great |
| 12:36.59 | wols_ | StyXman: channel 13 or 2 maybe? |
| 12:37.19 | StyXman | interesting enough, in this notebook (also debian sid, but different HW), iwconfig says that wlan0 is not associated |
| 12:37.22 | StyXman | wols_: no, channel 8 |
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| 12:38.09 | StyXman | wols_: http://pastebin.lugmen.org.ar/7858 |
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| 12:38.37 | StyXman | I will try checking the bios/restarting the machine |
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| 12:44.03 | wilfredor | Hi |
| 12:44.23 | wilfredor | Someone know a Call accouting software for PBX ? |
| 12:44.33 | StyXman | hmm, I booted with an older kernel (2.6.37) and the wifi light went on |
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| 12:54.14 | StyXman | ok, still, neither NM nor wicd or iwlist list the AP, setting it by hand with iwconfig (essid, channel, key) show no association, dhclient gets no lease and nothing relevant in dmesg or syslog |
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| 13:10.47 | invariant | Is there some open standard to keep track of birthdays and other events? |
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| 13:11.40 | StyXman | invariant: file format? ical and alternatives |
| 13:12.29 | Trewas | invariant: gregorian calendar is probably the most widely used |
| 13:13.48 | invariant | StyXman, yeah, I think ical can do this too. |
| 13:14.21 | invariant | Trewas, jokes are supposed to be funny. |
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| 13:16.04 | Trewas | really? :) |
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| 13:18.54 | SiDz | ircd-ratbox is booting too fast, before openvpn, so 10.20.4.1 still dont exist, i want it to boot after openvpn |
| 13:18.58 | SiDz | how can i do that |
| 13:19.41 | SiDz | # Default-Start: 2 3 4 5 |
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| 13:20.08 | SiDz | # Default-Start: 2 3 4 5 (same for openvpn) |
| 13:20.30 | vt0r | Just disable that init script from auto-starting and run it manually from rc.local |
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| 13:21.11 | SiDz | well, i like init script |
| 13:21.21 | SiDz | there no way to modifi it to boot it some sec later? |
| 13:21.25 | vt0r | And you can still use it. Please read what I said again |
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| 13:21.38 | SiDz | kk i see |
| 13:21.45 | vt0r | You just remove it from auto-startup with update-rc.d -f name remove |
| 13:22.01 | vt0r | check that man page in case I reversed the order of that command argument |
| 13:22.14 | vt0r | Then you just add /etc/init.d/script start to rc.local |
| 13:22.15 | SiDz | nope u got it right |
| 13:22.31 | vt0r | easiest method I can think of |
| 13:22.35 | wols_ | SiDz: # Required-Start: is the one to set properly |
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| 13:23.21 | SiDz | ircd-ratbox: # Required-Start: $remote_fs $network |
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| 13:23.39 | SiDz | openvpn: # Required-Start: $network $remote_fs $syslog |
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| 13:24.34 | SiDz | still i dontknow how but ill investigate:P |
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| 13:26.22 | StyXman | SiDz: ircd-ratbox should depend on openvpn |
| 13:26.31 | StyXman | dunno how to say it |
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| 13:28.30 | SiDz | im adding openvpn |
| 13:28.39 | SiDz | at end of required-start |
| 13:29.04 | SiDz | but i guess $network cover openvpn |
| 13:30.34 | vt0r | $network does not cover openvpn. $network means all network services have been loaded first |
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| 13:31.34 | vt0r | Try adding openvpn to that line and see if that works. Otherwise, use rc.local |
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| 13:33.52 | jelly | if he brought up the vpn solution from /etc/network/interfaces ... |
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| 13:44.20 | vbajpai | hello, I just installed libevent-dev, but I still receive missing libevent headers when configuring a software, I am using Debian Squeeze |
| 13:46.10 | SiDz | working a1 |
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| 13:47.52 | vbajpai | It cannot find event2/event.h |
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| 13:48.16 | SiDz | wasnt an answer to you:P |
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| 13:48.55 | greycat | dpkg: ooffice |
| 13:48.55 | dpkg | i guess ooffice is OpenOffice |
| 13:49.25 | greycat | So, err, where is "ooffice" hiding in wheezy? |
| 13:49.51 | babilen | greycat: It's not hiding, but you want libreoffice |
| 13:50.06 | greycat | I appear to have that. How do I run it? |
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| 13:50.27 | babilen | greycat: "libreoffice" maybe? I have no idea, but lets see |
| 13:50.34 | StyXman | greycat: libreoffice |
| 13:50.44 | greycat | Ah, that worked... The "lib" prefix confused the hell out of me. |
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| 13:54.37 | vbajpai | looks like I need to install libevent 2.x |
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| 13:57.08 | greycat | dpkg, ooffice is also replaced by <libreoffice> (which is "libre office" not "lib reoffice"!) for wheezy |
| 13:57.08 | dpkg | okay, greycat |
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| 14:03.57 | TomyLobo | hi |
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| 14:04.19 | TomyLobo | on wheezy, what's the rationale for not installing "ca-certificates" by default |
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| 14:06.18 | humbolt | Hi guys, I had one drive (A) of my RAID 1 failing and the other one (B) is about to fail and already produces read errors. Now I got both drives back online again with the (A) still marked as failed and therefore missing from the array. My question now is, how I do initiate resynchronization best, to loose the least amount of data possible. What happens, when I readd (A)? Will mdadm try to resync (A) and thereby try to overwrite data |
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| 14:06.31 | babilen | TomyLobo: Why should it be installed by default? It is by no means an essential package. |
| 14:06.33 | guang_ | which command can be used to analyze fat file system?for example,i want to find the sec number of root directory. |
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| 14:09.01 | Danic | Hi! If I putty on to a server and have a larger text file. Can I somehow put the content of the file into my clipboard? |
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| 14:10.18 | TomyLobo | babilen because i cant make https connections to most servers without it :) |
| 14:10.30 | babilen | Danic: Which operating system are you "puttying" from? |
| 14:10.34 | TomyLobo | well without going though options |
| 14:10.47 | babilen | TomyLobo: Install it if you want it |
| 14:10.49 | TomyLobo | babilen putty implies windows :) |
| 14:11.00 | babilen | TomyLobo: Not necessarily IIRC |
| 14:11.41 | greycat | I'm not aware of any command you can run on a remote Debian system that will put data into the clipboard of a local Windows client. |
| 14:12.19 | babilen | Same here, but lets establish first that Danic actually uses Windows. I would also be interested i what this has to do with Debian at all. |
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| 14:12.39 | Danic | babilen: Windows. |
| 14:12.41 | babilen | (there is a version of putty for *nix → http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html) |
| 14:13.17 | greycat | It was the safer guess. |
| 14:13.20 | babilen | Danic: I would recommend to ask in ##windows as there is *nothing* you can do on the server (which is, presumably, running Debian) to copy anything into the client's clipboard |
| 14:13.22 | Danic | greycat :okay: |
| 14:13.46 | TomyLobo | why would you use putty on non-windows? |
| 14:13.51 | Danic | Does debian Bash have a clipboard? |
| 14:13.55 | TomyLobo | everything else has proper ssh |
| 14:14.04 | TomyLobo | bash has no clipboard |
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| 14:14.13 | babilen | TomyLobo: Don't ask me, but I guessed wrongly once and clarify ever since. |
| 14:14.21 | greycat | Bash is a shell. Shells do not have clipboards. If you were running the X window system on Debian, then X would have a clipboard. |
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| 14:14.33 | Danic | okay :) thanks so far |
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| 14:16.44 | bniels | Danic, if you just want to get a file from debian over to your windows through the ssh connection, you can use pscp (and also some other stuff i guess), that comes with the putty archive (if you installed the all-in-one archive) |
| 14:16.59 | kanliot | filezilla |
| 14:17.07 | greycat | Note that pscp doesn't transmit it through the *existing* connection, but rather through a new one. |
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| 14:18.29 | bniels | that's true, greycat. but probably irrelevant for simple problems ;) |
| 14:18.36 | Danic | ^^ |
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| 14:18.42 | Danic | I keep pscp in mind. |
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| 14:19.16 | greycat | There are also various SFTP clients that you can use to retrieve files from the Debian server to the Windows client. |
| 14:19.47 | Danic | greycat, that I know :) I used Filezilla. But I was hoping for some quick "file > clipboard" thing :) |
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| 14:20.00 | greycat | But if it's a small enough data set, you can just highlight it with the mouse, copy it to the clipboard via whatever Putty uses, and past eit. |
| 14:20.19 | Danic | it has like three console pages :D |
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| 14:20.33 | Danic | thanks for the hints anyway! :) |
| 14:20.52 | bniels | putty can scroll, even while selecting for copying |
| 14:20.53 | greycat | putting stuff into the client's clipboard via command line interface only works if you're *on* the client system locally |
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| 14:22.56 | Danic | bniels, lol I never actually tried that one. |
| 14:23.09 | Danic | facepalms |
| 14:23.22 | bniels | hehe, can happen ;) |
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| 14:29.27 | roaet | During preseed the installer creates the user directory /home/user. During late_command it fails to run things in that directory for some reason. Right before the installer finishes I have a late_command that pauses the install, so I log in with the network deal and try to enter /target/home/user and it says "cannot cd into directory" though I see it with ls. Why would this occur? |
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| 14:31.59 | Danic | Why would I have a PATH variable in init scripts? The scripts don't even use them. |
| 14:32.01 | roaet | To make matters worse, sometimes I can cd into the directory. My user is 'installer' and I assume installer is running in su. |
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| 14:34.31 | humbolt | When I have a RAID 1 and there is a read error on drive A, will Linux try to get the data from drive B? |
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| 14:34.46 | Walex | roaet: you need to do 'ls -ld' of each path component to start looking into why |
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| 14:36.31 | roaet | path component as in $PATH or path component of my target directory? |
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| 14:38.02 | Walex | roaet: of your directory |
| 14:38.12 | roaet | I will do that. Thank you. |
| 14:39.13 | Walex | roaet: one possibility is that somehow it is a symlink to some place that does not exist. |
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| 14:40.07 | ChrisH | humbolt: that's what md is expected to do. |
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| 14:41.03 | Walex | humbolt: IIRC it will try to read from B, and then write the block to A to see if the error goes away. |
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| 14:41.28 | starenka | hello, how can i troubleshout "no sound" from my soundcard (testing). i can do aplay noise and speaker-test with sound on root, but not via regular user. this user is in audio group |
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| 14:42.35 | ChrisH | starenka: was User in that group before starting the Graphical Env? does aplay -l show the devices for root and user as expected? |
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| 14:46.43 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell starenka about sound |
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| 14:46.59 | starenka | ChrisH: aplay -l says the same thing for both user & root |
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| 14:47.23 | starenka | if i wanted to add the user to audio it states it has been there already so i suppose it was there before, X kicked in |
| 14:47.48 | ChrisH | I needed to change one of my scripts to use paplay instead of aplay |
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| 14:48.28 | starenka | ChrisH: well, the point is i got no sound from mpd, so i've started poking around |
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| 14:49.19 | ChrisH | mpd? |
| 14:49.26 | babilen | starenka: Are you sure that pulseaudion is configured correctly for your user? Can you play sound with aplay if you choose the (alsa) device explicitly with "-D" (read "man speaker-test" for a discussion of that option and how it relates to "aplay -L") |
| 14:49.36 | babilen | starenka: Only mpd? |
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| 14:50.48 | greycat | There is a theory that states that if ever anyone discovers exactly how Linux audio works and how to use it, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. |
| 14:51.05 | greycat | There is another theory that states that this has already happened. |
| 14:52.05 | gobra | I just heard an annoying BUZZ and a message telling me I had a kernel fail or something like that. How do you debug it to see what is wrong? |
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| 14:52.15 | greycat | Twice. |
| 14:52.46 | starenka | babilen: any user except root cant aplay or speakertest - well they do, but i get no sound |
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| 14:54.01 | greycat | And no error message? |
| 14:54.31 | starenka | babilen: will, try... how do i get to know what device i put behind -d for aplay? (sorry for my noobishness) |
| 14:55.10 | babilen | greycat: I am sure it happened more than once |
| 14:55.24 | starenka | babilen: ok, i can do aplay by explicitly doing aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav -d /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c (i've just randomly picked on of the devices) |
| 14:55.24 | babilen | starenka: Could you show me the output of "aplay -L" on http://paste.debian.net ? |
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| 14:55.31 | greycat | I'm not sure the second one (ALSA -> Pulse?!) has actually happened yet. |
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| 14:56.05 | starenka | babilen: http://dpaste.org/TbYxX/ |
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| 14:56.53 | greycat | The first one (OSS -> ALSA) has already fully happened, I believe |
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| 14:57.57 | babilen | starenka: Please try "aplay -Dfront:SB /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav" |
| 14:58.48 | babilen | starenka: And a couple of other things: Please run "alsamixer" and make sure that *all* channels are unmuted (no "MM" at the bottom and you can use "m" to mute/unmute) |
| 14:58.49 | starenka | play: main:682: audio open error: Device or resource busy |
| 14:59.06 | babilen | starenka: Continue by installing "pavucontrol" and check the config and the volume levels |
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| 14:59.26 | babilen | starenka: Hmm, raise volume levels as well in alsamixer |
| 14:59.27 | jhutchins_wk | greycat: OSS is still around and went through a brief fling of development a while back, but alsa is still the most common standard. |
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| 14:59.45 | starenka | babilen: i've did that, nothing is muted except microphones |
| 14:59.49 | babilen | starenka: Ok, what about "aplay -Ddefault /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav" ? |
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| 15:00.13 | starenka | the "default" works |
| 15:00.25 | babilen | starenka: works as in "plays audio" ? |
| 15:01.15 | starenka | babilen: yes |
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| 15:02.05 | babilen | starenka: Ok, so you can play audio as your user it "just" doesn't work with mpd? Do other media player play sound? |
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| 15:03.23 | starenka | babilen: mplayer does not output sound as user (haven't tried as mpd). i think the problem is it outputs to pa? |
| 15:03.56 | Danic | Is there a nice tool to visualize who is in which groups? console |
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| 15:05.10 | babilen | starenka: Didn't you say that "default" works? Could you try vlc? Did you install pavucontrol already and did you check in there that you get a signal (you see the application playing) and that the configuration is correct? (you typically want "Stereo Duplex" or so) |
| 15:05.29 | greycat | Danic: cat /etc/group |
| 15:05.31 | jhutchins_wk | starenka: That may be something you can configure in mplayer. |
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| 15:05.44 | babilen | Danic: "cat /etc/group" :-D |
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| 15:05.54 | jhutchins_wk | starenka: There's usually no reason to have pulseaudio present, it breaks more than it fixes. |
| 15:05.57 | babilen | Ah, I see greycat was faster :) |
| 15:06.41 | Danic | thx :) |
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| 15:06.47 | starenka | babilen: hmm, mplayer played with no sound untill i've started pavucontrol |
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| 15:08.33 | babilen | starenka: So simply starting pavucontrol fixed the issue? |
| 15:08.45 | starenka | babilen: but mpd (as mpd user still has no output), dunno i can switch mpd to run as the workiung user, but i dunno if this will survive restart as it seems pavucontrol magically turns sound on |
| 15:08.51 | starenka | babilen: yes |
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| 15:09.47 | babilen | starenka: Well, I don't think that mpd can access your user's pulseaudion daemon. You should consider to either run mpd as your user or PA as system daemon |
| 15:10.32 | babilen | starenka: How do you start X? |
| 15:13.04 | starenka | babilen: i have kdm which starts awesome, but it's a remote machine |
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| 15:13.19 | starenka | (basically a michine in work for zillion tasks) |
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| 15:13.44 | Danic | oh god, another question. I compiled cherokee on my system. It doesn't have access to /var/local/var/lib/cherokee/graphs. Ofc, because it runs under www-data. But /usr/local gives permissions to root:staff. What's a good way to solve this? Can I simply add www-data to groupd www-data AND staff? |
| 15:14.00 | starenka | babilen: well, mpd now runs as the |
| 15:14.10 | starenka | "working user", but doesn't play a thing |
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| 15:14.12 | starenka | :( |
| 15:15.01 | greycat | Danic: why would it need write permission on /usr/local? |
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| 15:15.58 | Danic | greycat, sorry /usr/local... the above mentioned. But everything under /usr/local has the same permission settings as /usr/local anyway. |
| 15:17.59 | greycat | Then just change the one directory it actually needs to write to, NOT /usr/local itself. |
| 15:18.14 | greycat | chown www-data /usr/local/var/lib/cherokee/graphs |
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| 15:19.15 | Danic | I never compiled anything. So I was not sure whether I can chown anything in /usr/local without breaking eanything (else). |
| 15:19.29 | Danic | thanks! |
| 15:20.15 | greycat | It would only matter if something else uses /usr/local/var/lib/cherokee/graphs which seems unlikely |
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| 15:21.15 | Danic | aye |
| 15:21.33 | babilen | starenka: Not sure -- Other players such as mplayer, vlc, mpg123, ... play fine now though, don't they? |
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| 15:24.16 | gobra | Why do I get an amd64 kernel if I downloaded an i386 debian iso?:) |
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| 15:24.42 | starenka | babilen: yea, mplayer works |
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| 15:24.54 | starenka | babilen: i've managed to start mpd as the working user & run PA as a system deamon |
| 15:24.56 | starenka | but no avail |
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| 15:26.24 | starenka | babilen: should i conf mpd to output to alsa or pa now? |
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| 15:27.15 | humbolt | Walex, ChrisH: thanks for the insight. Now, my scenario is a little more complicated. One drive has already failed and is out of sync therefore. What happens, when I readd the drive? I would actually like to add a third drive to the mirror and use both old drives (which both have issues) to sync all data to the new drive. |
| 15:27.35 | locojay | hi i m on a xen dom0 running wheezy . uname -a Linux locoserver 3.0.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Sat Aug 27 16:21:11 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux. kernel is old i need at least 3.1 for some modules |
| 15:27.44 | locojay | doing apt-get update , upgrade does not not upgrade |
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| 15:27.51 | greycat | I... don't think you can add a third disk to a RAID-1 array. I suppose I could be wrong. |
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| 15:28.24 | starenka | babilen: hehe, confed mpd to pa and it wortks |
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| 15:29.00 | jelly | greycat: md raid is fun that way |
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| 15:29.24 | Danic | greycat: RAID-1 needs at least two disks. More is possible. |
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| 15:29.47 | jelly | also its raid10 can span odd number of disks and shuffle the stripes in amusing ways |
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| 15:30.01 | greycat | locojay: what about: apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 15:30.12 | jelly | "N copies over M disks" |
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| 15:31.28 | locojay | thanks |
| 15:31.29 | greycat | Oh, there it is... it doesn't have 3.2 in it. "apt-get install linux-image-amd64" |
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| 15:32.08 | starenka | babilen: thanks mate! |
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| 15:34.31 | locojay | greycat: got a message about some missing firmare files. if i add contrib and non-free to sources.list and do an apt-get update upgrade should all be ok then? |
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| 15:35.23 | greycat | Possibly? |
| 15:35.47 | greycat | I'd take very careful note of the exact message and do what it says. |
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| 15:36.17 | dcherniv | locojay, oh my... no |
| 15:36.18 | locojay | http://cl.ly/image/1X2U3R2O3n2a |
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| 15:36.27 | wols_ | locojay: it should not. with apt-get upgrade no new packages will be installed. which firmware is missing? |
| 15:36.36 | dcherniv | locojay, apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 15:36.37 | khem_ | can anyone recommend a RAID controller card for 1U server working well under Debian standard install? |
| 15:36.42 | Danic | Could someone quickyl mention my name. I must test Highlighnitn ;) |
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| 15:37.05 | dcherniv | hell no! what are we the red cross |
| 15:37.36 | khem_ | Danic |
| 15:37.38 | locojay | i only see firmware-linux-free |
| 15:37.44 | Danic | khem_ thx |
| 15:37.44 | dcherniv | awww |
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| 15:38.04 | skiy1337 | I have a computer without internet, but I managed to get all .deb from another's /var/cache/apt/archives/ I am trying to do dpkg -i *.deb # but most of them fail. |
| 15:38.13 | dcherniv | locojay, then you need to enable contrib and non-free repos |
| 15:38.24 | locojay | thanks |
| 15:38.51 | skiy1337 | With a dependency error. I mean, the .deb is there, it just doesn't *know* |
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| 15:39.22 | woshty | what do i have to do to get useful 3d performance out of the radeon driver? |
| 15:39.22 | skiy1337 | So I guess, it's a file-sorting problem. |
| 15:39.36 | locojay | will grub default boot into the new kernel? |
| 15:39.37 | alusion | Bradley Manning is Guardians person of the year! |
| 15:39.44 | locojay | don't have a sceen :( |
| 15:39.50 | alusion | ^_^ |
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| 15:39.58 | greycat | The error message for "you're missing some firmware" could stand to be a little more helpful about what to do. |
| 15:40.03 | jhutchins_wk | skiy1337: dpkg will usually install even if there is a dependency error, it will just leave the error flagged as needing to be fixed. |
| 15:40.09 | dcherniv | skiy1337, dpkg -i --force-all ; apt-get install -f |
| 15:40.27 | skiy1337 | Oh okay. So I just let it run so long. |
| 15:40.32 | greycat | locojay: if you want to change the order of the kernels in the grub menu, you'll have to edit /boot/grub/menu.cfg and run update-grub |
| 15:40.41 | wols_ | greycat: it's not what it says. it's says "due to debian policy some firmware which was included in kernel is now missing". should it list every single one of them now? |
| 15:40.42 | locojay | added contrib and non-free and install firmaware-linux-nonfree |
| 15:40.51 | greycat | locojay: but be warned, it's NOT very obvious how it works at first glance |
| 15:41.31 | greycat | wols_: It says "You may need to reconfigure the package manager to include the contrib and non-free sections of the package archive before you can install these firmware files." It doesn't actually say HOW to install the firmware files. |
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| 15:42.19 | greycat | wols_: maybe my perspective is unusual here, but I *already know* how to edit sources.list -- I've been doing that for years -- what I *don't* know is the name of the thing to install to get the firmware files, because that's NEW. |
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| 15:43.34 | dcherniv | greycat, ah who cares |
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| 15:48.08 | jelly | ,file tigon/tg3.bin --release wheezy |
| 15:48.13 | judd | Search for tigon/tg3.bin in wheezy/i386: firmware-linux-nonfree: lib/firmware/tigon/tg3.bin |
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| 15:50.35 | locojay | how can i tell grub to boot in the new kernel? |
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| 15:52.05 | jelly | locojay: after you've run update-grub, check the resulting /boot/grub/grub.cfg -- the first menu entry is booted by default, but that default can be changed if needed |
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| 15:53.23 | locojay | in grub.cfg there is not entry for 3.2 kernel only 3.0 . i can see the kernel in menu.ls |
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| 15:54.09 | jelly | that implies you now have grub-legacy installed and active, instead of the now more typical grub2 (grub-pc package) |
| 15:54.23 | locojay | doing grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 15:54.25 | locojay | helped |
| 15:54.30 | jelly | locojay: what does update-grub say? |
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| 15:55.00 | locojay | grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg worked |
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| 15:55.23 | locojay | grub.cfg has now the new kernel. for some reason update-grub does not work hear |
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| 15:55.38 | jelly | locojay: how does it fail to work? |
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| 15:55.59 | locojay | does not update the grub.cfg file. only grub-mkconfig does |
| 15:55.59 | jelly | use paste.debian.net or some other pastebin site to show the complete output of update-grub, please |
| 15:56.12 | locojay | rebooting sec |
| 15:56.22 | jelly | heh |
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| 15:57.30 | locojay | still have the tmux log https://gist.github.com/4251435 |
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| 15:57.56 | locojay | perfect i m in 3.2.32-1 |
| 15:58.59 | locojay | no big deal why update-grub does not work as long as grub-mkconfig does the job |
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| 16:03.16 | greycat | Maybe it's just me, but I didn't see a failure of update-grub in that output. It looks like it found the 2 Debian kernel images just fine. |
| 16:04.03 | [TheFlash] | i found the cause of the pidgin 2.7.3 vulnerability in debian squeeze |
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| 16:04.47 | [TheFlash] | however, i think my fix only fixes the crash, and not the underlying problem (XMPP video chat still doesn't work) |
| 16:05.00 | [TheFlash] | where should I report it? |
| 16:05.12 | jelly | greycat: it however is the update-grub for grub1 and not grub2, which is somewhat unusual |
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| 16:06.05 | greycat | maybe he's got a mish-mash of different debian versions... |
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| 16:07.16 | jelly | or grub-legacy userspace installed, and who-knows-what as boot code |
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| 16:07.58 | [TheFlash] | does anyone know where bugs that are specific to debian should be reported? |
| 16:08.27 | jelly | !reportbug |
| 16:08.27 | dpkg | reportbug is used to submit bugs to the Debian <BTS>. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. Or on the web, http://www.debian.org/Bugs/, or see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s04#problem-report for some general information about using reportbug and/or for <debian-installer> bug reporting. Also ask me about <report-bugs>. http://wiki.debian.org/reportbug http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting |
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| 16:12.38 | [TheFlash] | jelly: ok, thanks |
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| 16:20.45 | dFence | is there a way to see which firmware is loaded? |
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| 16:21.16 | jhutchins_wk | dFence: You should be able to find it in dmesg |
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| 16:27.35 | stefuNz | Hi everybody. I have a user named bill. bill has a ulimit -n of default 1024, as its debian-default. i've read that to increase his ulimit, i need to place some entries in the /etc/security/limits.conf - i did that. however, bill has still ulimit -n = 1024. How can i apply those changes without rebooting my box? |
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| 16:28.38 | greycat | He has to log out and back in. |
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| 16:30.22 | stefuNz | ok, now bill logs in as another user and then he does 'sudo su bill' - still the same limits |
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| 16:30.52 | greycat | sudo *and* su?! |
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| 16:31.46 | stefuNz | yeah … he has no direct login ;) |
| 16:31.59 | stefuNz | in fact it's not a real person, but its a service i'm running |
| 16:32.07 | greycat | Then you're totally editing the wrong file. |
| 16:32.13 | greycat | Edit the SCRIPT that starts the service. |
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| 16:32.23 | stefuNz | OK, what should i put in there? |
| 16:32.36 | greycat | A boot script runs as root with no limits, right? So just put a "ulimit -n ..." in there before it launches the daemon. |
| 16:32.52 | stefuNz | ah i see |
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| 16:33.05 | greycat | Or, perhaps this daemon is imposing its OWN resource limits, in which case you'd have to tell it to stop doing that. |
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| 16:33.56 | stefuNz | OK, that helps me a lot, thank you greycat |
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| 16:35.17 | stefuNz | now i got, thanks so much :) made my day |
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| 16:36.40 | jelly | both sudo and su could pick up the settings from pam_limits (/etc/security/limits.conf), but it's a bit atypical to use su in an init script |
| 16:36.56 | greycat | Actually it's EXTREMELY typical. |
| 16:37.10 | jelly | for custom scripts maybe |
| 16:37.14 | greycat | su someuser -c /usr/sbin/mydaemon |
| 16:37.31 | greycat | that's been the way unix boot scripts work for decades |
| 16:38.05 | jelly | decent daemons all have their own "pick up what's needed with root (low port socket) and release privileges" |
| 16:39.43 | jelly | Debian and Linux distros resemble unix less and less with time |
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| 16:43.16 | pats_Toms | Got problem here. Anyone could help me? http://pastebin.com/hSDGkQDe |
| 16:43.18 | jelly | a casual "grep '\bsu\b' /etc/init.d/*" reveals one custom script and five more contenders out of 189 init scripts |
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| 16:43.38 | pats_Toms | I can't fix "E: Broken packages" error |
| 16:43.43 | greycat | Then I'd say it's Debian which is atypical ;-) |
| 16:44.18 | darsk1ez | pats_Toms, looks like you've installed some 3rd party .deb repo |
| 16:44.31 | pats_Toms | yes, it is |
| 16:45.01 | pats_Toms | it is http://php53.dotdeb.org. Found somewhere on net |
| 16:45.31 | babilen | !dotdeb |
| 16:45.31 | dpkg | http://dotdeb.org/ is an unofficial package repository with emphasis on the <LAMP> solution stack, unsupported in #debian. To get support, read http://www.dotdeb.org/2012/08/24/how-to-post-useful-bug-reports/ and report any issues to https://github.com/gplessis/dotdeb-php5/issues . Ask me about <dotdeb alternatives>. |
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| 16:46.22 | babilen | pats_Toms: Just eradicate any sign of dotdeb from your system and be happy (dpkg --remove might be necessary) |
| 16:46.35 | jelly | greycat: wait til systemd messes things up some more |
| 16:46.47 | babilen | dpkg: tell pats_Toms -about dotdeb alternatives |
| 16:46.48 | dcherniv | wonders why people install apache and friends from repos |
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| 16:47.13 | jelly | dcherniv: because they work and are security-supported by someone else |
| 16:47.18 | greycat | Actually, I suppose it's uncommon on Linux systems for daemons NOT to do their own privilege dropping. Linux boxes are all fancy-fied. |
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| 16:47.40 | s98259 | :3 |
| 16:47.44 | s98259 | I was here yestaday |
| 16:47.59 | s98259 | I got my broadcom card working without ndiswrapper. |
| 16:48.29 | pats_Toms | dcherniv: you mean, better is compile for my own? |
| 16:49.19 | dcherniv | pats_Toms, if you want latest and greatest yes, but compiling from source requires some expertise |
| 16:49.20 | s98259 | :/ |
| 16:50.12 | dcherniv | jelly, 5.3.3-7 how old is that? does debian backports security patches etc from latest php? |
| 16:50.23 | greycat | Yes, that is how Debian does security. |
| 16:51.01 | jelly | !tracker of doom |
| 16:51.01 | dpkg | The Tracker of Doom is a vulnerability database maintained by the Debian security team, viewable at http://security-tracker.debian.org/ . Ask me about <cve lookup CVE-yyyy-nnnn> to get Debian-specific information on a CVE number. See also http://www.debian.org/security/crossreferences or ask me about <debsecan> http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/debsecan/ |
| 16:51.02 | babilen | dcherniv: Reasons comprise: You get a stable and well documented software installation that comes with active security support and combines well with other software that is found in the repository. Well, mainly the same reasons why one would want to use a Linux distribution in the first place :) |
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| 16:51.20 | greycat | zless /usr/share/doc/php5-common/changelog.Debian.gz will let you read what security patches have been done |
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| 16:51.29 | dcherniv | ah nvm then |
| 16:51.31 | greycat | also what dpkg just said |
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| 16:53.42 | jelly | dcherniv: that one would be old, but 5.3.3-7+squeeze14 is 06 Aug 2012 |
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| 16:54.03 | jelly | and I can't believe there haven't been any php5 bugs fixes in whole four months |
| 16:54.07 | dcherniv | babilen, true but once you move away from somewhat standard stack that a distro offers, you're pretty much on your own. At which point why not buuild manually from scratch where you know every bit and piece as opposed to trying to integrate certain packages (ffmpeg-php for example) with distro's debs |
| 16:54.41 | greycat | It's your system and you can do that if you want, but that's a LOT of work. |
| 16:55.25 | babilen | dcherniv: Just don't move away from what the distribution offers, but you are free to do with your system whatever you want to do with it. |
| 16:55.26 | jelly | then the burden of tracking security and regression issues is on your own shoulders |
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| 16:56.31 | dcherniv | greycat, babilen yes it is a lot of work. Im all for package managers. But sometimes it just cant deliver |
| 16:56.46 | dcherniv | anyway getting offtopic |
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| 16:56.52 | no_gravity | Hello! How do I find out, which version of tightvncserver is installed on my machine, and how do i update it to the latest version? |
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| 16:57.16 | dcherniv | no_gravity, dpkg -l | grep tightvnc |
| 16:57.57 | dcherniv | no_gravity, this will tell you the version |
| 16:58.21 | no_gravity | dcherniv: ok, 1.3.9-6 |
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| 16:59.04 | dcherniv | no_gravity, apt-get update && apt-get install tightvncserver |
| 16:59.18 | dcherniv | HA |
| 16:59.42 | dcherniv | irciing as root is dangerous |
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| 17:00.21 | no_gravity | dcherniv: i already did that. thats how i installed it. |
| 17:00.37 | greycat | then you have the latest version from the Debian repositories |
| 17:00.39 | dcherniv | no_gravity, thats the latest version from the repos |
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| 17:00.55 | no_gravity | dcherniv: but the current versin seems to be 2.6 |
| 17:01.32 | dcherniv | no_gravity, current according to who? |
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| 17:01.45 | s98259 | I'm getting problems about a device descripter when I plug this HDD in. I attempt to mount but the device isn't appearing in /dev |
| 17:02.17 | greycat | I'd start by reading the end of dmesg's output, see what the kernel says about the device |
| 17:02.39 | dcherniv | s98259, what greycat said |
| 17:03.17 | no_gravity | dcherniv: www.tightvnc.com |
| 17:03.22 | s98259 | http://paste.debian.net/215433/ |
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| 17:04.30 | Seryth | Why isn't Python 2.7.3 in the Debian Stable repos? I was lead to believe that it's one of the most stable versions of Python available? |
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| 17:05.28 | Nik05 | Seryth its in wheezy |
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| 17:06.10 | greycat | !squeeze |
| 17:06.10 | Seryth | Nik05: I know, I run Wheezy. I was just surprised when I found out today that it's not in stable.. |
| 17:06.10 | dpkg | Squeeze is the codename for the current <stable> release, Debian 6.0, released on 2011-02-06: http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110205a . Squeeze is the three-eyed space alien. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze and ask me about <install squeeze> <release notes> <lenny->squeeze>. Currently <6.0.6>. The Debian release is not to be confused with the <Xfce> archive manager. |
| 17:06.13 | dcherniv | no_gravity, hm probably didnt make it into the repositories due to licensing issues. Or its just too new and hasnt been added yet |
| 17:06.45 | greycat | presumably because python 2.7.3 wasn't ready to be released on whatever date squeeze froze |
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| 17:06.58 | greycat | (some time late 2010) |
| 17:07.00 | s98259 | That paste contains my mesg log. lol |
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| 17:07.23 | greycat | s98259: was that the END of the dmesg output, or just the beginning? |
| 17:07.24 | dcherniv | no_gravity, well here's your answer: TightVNC 2.6 supports all desktop and server versions of Microsoft Windows starting at Windows 2000, up to Windows 8 (x86/x64) |
| 17:07.37 | dcherniv | no_gravity, no linux support in later versions |
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| 17:07.42 | no_gravity | dcherniv: the 1.3 version has the problem, that it blocks access completely when somebody tries to log in a couple of times with a wrong password. i hoped a newer version would fix that. |
| 17:07.55 | no_gravity | dcherniv: maybe i should use some other vnc server? |
| 17:07.56 | Oggy` | S b y R E | V G k D o K o t d { ; p * Z d ` v b ; S g _ b " 5 g f ) K s ^ = " n @ , R ) N P ) g { |
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| 17:08.58 | s98259 | Guys? |
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| 17:09.33 | dcherniv | no_gravity, not sure... havent used vnc in a while |
| 17:09.34 | dcherniv | !vnc |
| 17:09.34 | dpkg | Virtual Network Computing (VNC) is a platform-independent graphical desktop sharing system (i.e. provides GUI remote access). Server packages in Debian include <tightvncserver>, <vnc4server> and <x11vnc>; "apt-cache search vnc" will list other servers and clients. Ask me about <vnc setup>, see also <x-not-vnc> for an alternative. http://wiki.debian.org/VNCviewer |
| 17:09.38 | greycat | s98259: if the stuff at 81.01 seconds is really the end of your dmesg, and if your machine has been running longer than 81 seconds, then the kernel did NOT see you plug this device in. |
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| 17:09.43 | s98259 | greycat: It's the full log. :/ |
| 17:10.23 | gnat_x | hi folks, trying to get redmine working on a wheezy install. i've followed the instructions in /usr/share/doc/redmine/. i'm trying to work with mysql, apache2 and passenger. everything seems to be set up properly but instead of a redmine page, when i hit it with the browser i'm just getting a file listing of the directory. |
| 17:10.25 | s98259 | I did install a linux header and before that the HDD worked. |
| 17:10.36 | gnat_x | i'm not sure what to do next. |
| 17:10.52 | gnat_x | none of the docs i can find seem to handle this. |
| 17:10.55 | greycat | installing kernel header files should not change how the device detection works |
| 17:11.06 | s98259 | okies. |
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| 17:12.30 | no_gravity | dcherniv: or maybe i close the vnc port all together and only connect via ssh tunnel. do you know how to do that? |
| 17:12.31 | s98259 | greycat: The system defo saw me plug in the device. backtrace appeared at TTY. |
| 17:12.39 | greycat | O_o |
| 17:13.04 | greycat | are you sure you're typing dmesg on the correct computer, then? you're not sshed to a remote box and forgot...? |
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| 17:13.16 | s98259 | greycat: nope. |
| 17:13.27 | s98259 | Try searching for port 2 in that paste. |
| 17:13.29 | s98259 | Er... |
| 17:14.11 | s98259 | unable to enumerate USB device on port 2 |
| 17:14.14 | dcherniv | no_gravity, whats your goal? are you connecting to the 'server' from windows machine? |
| 17:14.28 | greycat | but that's at 5 seconds after boot |
| 17:14.28 | s98259 | they should be a few more stuff before it to do with the HDD. |
| 17:14.35 | s98259 | greycat: I know |
| 17:14.42 | s98259 | the HDD was plugged in then too |
| 17:14.43 | greycat | was the device *already* plugged in when you booted? |
| 17:14.45 | greycat | ah. |
| 17:14.52 | dcherniv | no_gravity, if not you can simply enable X forwarding with ssh, connect with ssh -X -C and run Xorg applications from the server on the client |
| 17:14.56 | greycat | so, um, what happens if you unplug it and plug it back in? |
| 17:14.59 | s98259 | Yes but I attempted to unplug it too. |
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| 17:15.04 | s98259 | I get the same errors |
| 17:15.11 | greycat | but NOTHING in dmesg? |
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| 17:15.27 | no_gravity | dcherniv: i connect from a linux machine to a linux machine |
| 17:15.42 | no_gravity | dcherniv: the server renders images in firefox. |
| 17:15.50 | no_gravity | dcherniv: i connect to it with vnc |
| 17:16.05 | s98259 | greycat: It's there I can see it. |
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| 17:16.43 | greycat | s98259: well, you're beyond my ability to troubleshoot. Try one of the mailing lists if you can't get help here. |
| 17:16.55 | s98259 | :/ |
| 17:17.07 | s98259 | Nah I'd prefer to wait than use a web browser greycat :3 |
| 17:17.14 | s98259 | thanks for your help tho. |
| 17:18.16 | dcherniv | no_gravity, so X + firefox is always running on the server? |
| 17:18.58 | dcherniv | no_gravity, xvnc is a simple vnc server that shares your current x session |
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| 17:19.22 | greycat | x11vnc |
| 17:20.11 | no_gravity | dcherniv: yes, x+firefox is running all the time. firefox happily rendering |
| 17:20.26 | darsk1ez | is that not xrfb ? |
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| 17:20.42 | greycat | no_gravity: "apt-cache show x11vnc" |
| 17:20.53 | dcherniv | no_gravity, yea try xvnc |
| 17:20.57 | ChmEarl | netdev group is created by NetworkManager? using wheezy. Do I need it if I intend to configure wifi with cmdline tools? |
| 17:21.00 | dcherniv | err x11vnc |
| 17:21.06 | no_gravity | greycat: yes, its there |
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| 17:21.19 | greycat | I know it's there. Read it and see if that does what you want. |
| 17:21.28 | darsk1ez | hmm, things have changed a bit |
| 17:22.02 | dcherniv | darkc0met, oh... my. things dont change |
| 17:22.19 | dcherniv | darkskiez, oh... my. things dont change |
| 17:22.21 | darsk1ez | maybe i was thinking of krfb |
| 17:22.49 | jelly | darsk1ez: x11vnc is a descendant and a better option to x0rfb if that's what you meant |
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| 17:23.23 | darsk1ez | indeedy, ta :) |
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| 17:23.51 | jelly | x0rfb (package rfb) doesn't even exist in debian any more I think |
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| 17:24.38 | no_gravity | greycat: "VNC server to allow remote access to an existing X session". Hmm... i think there is no existing X session. I normally start X via tightvncserver. |
| 17:24.54 | greycat | 12:20 no_gravity> dcherniv: yes, x+firefox is running all the time. firefox happily rendering |
| 17:25.37 | no_gravity | greycat: yes, it is running all the time. |
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| 17:25.56 | greycat | Except when it isn't, because apparently you login to a VNC session and start it manually. |
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| 17:26.02 | sney | ChmEarl: if you intend to configure wifi with command line tools, it's actually recommended that you remove or at least disable network-manager. |
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| 17:26.22 | no_gravity | greycat: and then i deconnect and it keeps running. |
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| 17:26.55 | greycat | no_gravity: so it's not "running all the time" in the sense that you are connecting to a preexisting X session. You are manually starting a new X session under some VNC thingy. |
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| 17:27.13 | greycat | In which case i have no idea what the question is now. |
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| 17:28.30 | no_gravity | greycat: the question is: what is a good vnc server to use for my purposes. tightvncserver works nicely, but locks me out when somebody tries too many passwords. and since the machine is connected to the internet that happens about once a week. and i cannot get hold of my x session anymore and everything is lost. |
| 17:29.10 | no_gravity | greycat: maybe when tightvncserver locks me out, i can use x11vnc to connect to the existing x session... |
| 17:29.13 | greycat | You can't configure it to stop locking on failed passwords? Or firewall it so that it can't be accessed from public IPs? |
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| 17:29.51 | jhutchins_wk | no_gravity: Exposing a VNC connection directly to the internet is a bad idea in the first place. You need a secure tunnel to run it over. Forwarding applications over ssh is a better methodology. |
| 17:30.34 | jhutchins_wk | Besides which, this is linux, we don't need no stinkin' GUI for remote access anyway. |
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| 17:30.45 | no_gravity | greycat: i did not find a config setting for that. |
| 17:31.00 | no_gravity | greycat: i could close the vnc port and then use an ssh tunnel. |
| 17:31.10 | no_gravity | greycat: what would be a good way to close the port? |
| 17:31.21 | jhutchins_wk | no_gravity: Don't listen on it. |
| 17:31.24 | greycat | since this is Linux, iptables (netfilter) |
| 17:32.02 | greycat | or I think jhutchins_wk is suggesting that you have it listen only on localhost, and then use an ssh tunnel to reach it |
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| 17:32.04 | jhutchins_wk | no_gravity: Your default firewall policy should only open ports you explicitly configure as open. |
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| 17:32.47 | jhutchins_wk | no_gravity: What kind of applications are you using VNC for? There may be better, more secure methods to accomplish what you need. |
| 17:32.53 | darsk1ez | jelly, been running the same system since woody :) |
| 17:32.55 | no_gravity | greycat: how would i tell tightvncserver to only listen on localhost? |
| 17:33.03 | no_gravity | jhutchins_wk: firefox |
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| 17:33.34 | jhutchins_wk | no_gravity: So what you need is an HTTP proxy server, not VNC. |
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| 17:33.59 | no_gravity | jhutchins_wk: im pretty sure you completely misunderstand the whole issue. |
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| 17:34.08 | jhutchins_wk | no_gravity: I presume you're doing this to get around something like a work netfilter? |
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| 17:34.36 | no_gravity | jhutchins_wk: no. firefox is running on a couple of servers, running rendering software written in javascript. |
| 17:34.55 | no_gravity | jhutchins_wk: i use vnc to connect to the servers. |
| 17:35.36 | no_gravity | greycat: so i would do somethin like this? iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -dport 5901 -j DROP |
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| 17:37.19 | jelly | no_gravity: maybe add -localhost to the command line, if it's the same as RealVNC? |
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| 17:38.02 | FGH` | how should i mount an device with acl enabled ? |
| 17:38.20 | jhutchins_wk | no_gravity: Rather than explicitly dropping traffic to a port, your firewall should be dropping all traffic that is not either to a port you want open or due to an established connection from inside. |
| 17:38.40 | no_gravity | jhutchins_wk: there is no firewall. |
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| 17:39.52 | no_gravity | jelly: you could be right. adding that, i cannot connect. let me try to tunnel my way in via ssh... |
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| 17:40.53 | FGH` | how should i mount an device with acl enabled ? |
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| 17:44.49 | no_gravity | jelly: yeah, it works! |
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| 17:47.33 | FGH` | can i mount my main drive with acl ? |
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| 17:47.50 | ws2k3 | can i mount my main drive with acl ? |
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| 17:48.54 | lancelot_of | hi all |
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| 17:53.39 | lancelot_of | i'm running wheezy with my own version of kernel 3.5.5 which works perfectly (for the first time for a kernel on my thinkpad x220). However, with this kernel i'm unable to use virtualbox,dunno why. That's what i have during installation which, of course, fails: http://paste.debian.net/215437/ and here what /vr/log/vbox-install.log shows: http://paste.debian.net/215438/ |
| 17:54.07 | lancelot_of | the same happens with the wheezy-provided version of virtualbox 4.1.18 from deb repos |
| 17:54.13 | lancelot_of | please any help? |
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| 17:57.35 | jelly | lancelot_of: where are you kernel headers? Are you using a 64bit kernel with 32bit userspace maybe? |
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| 17:58.37 | dcherniv | lancelot_of, Did you run make clean in the kernel tree? |
| 17:58.46 | lancelot_of | jelly, my kernel headers are in /usr/src/linux-headers-3.5.5-amd64 |
| 17:59.00 | lancelot_of | dcherniv, i didn't |
| 17:59.02 | dcherniv | lancelot_of, rebuild the kernel one more time: make && make modules_install && make install |
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| 17:59.31 | jelly | lancelot_of: then figure out why vbox is looking in /usr/src/linux-source-3.5 instread |
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| 18:00.05 | lancelot_of | jelly, the sources are in /usr/src/linux-source-3.5 |
| 18:00.51 | jelly | lancelot_of: and there's no /usr/src/linux-source-3.5/scripts/genksyms/genksyms ? |
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| 18:02.22 | lancelot_of | jelly, in /usr/src/linux-source-3.5/scripts/genksyms i see genksyms.c keywords.gperf lex.l Makefile parse.tab.h_shipped genksyms.h keywords.hash.c_shipped lex.lex.c_shipped parse.tab.c_shipped parse.y |
| 18:02.57 | lancelot_of | i used the debian way to compile the kernel |
| 18:03.02 | jelly | lancelot_of: where do /lib/modules/3.5.5-amd64/{build,source} symlinks point to? If you packaged and installed the headers, make them point to /usr/src/linux-headers-3.5.5-amd64 instead |
| 18:03.18 | jelly | looks like the source tree has been at least partially cleaned then |
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| 18:04.17 | jelly | aways |
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| 18:04.53 | lancelot_of | jelly, both /lib/modules/3.5.5-amd64/{build,source} symlinks point to /usr/src/linux-source-3.5 |
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| 18:05.19 | lancelot_of | jelly, how to make the headers point to /usr/src/linux-headers-3.5.5-amd64? |
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| 18:06.54 | dcherniv | lancelot_of, unlink /lib/modules/3.5.5-amd64/build ; ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-3.5.5-amd64 build |
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| 18:07.19 | pzuraq | hello |
| 18:07.34 | pzuraq | I'm trying to uninstall postfix and use msmtp as my null client |
| 18:07.35 | dcherniv | lancelot_of, above needs to be run in /lib/modules/3.5.5-amd64 |
| 18:07.48 | pzuraq | I've installed msmtp and msmtp-mta |
| 18:08.03 | pzuraq | but whenever I try to uninstall postfix, I get the following |
| 18:08.19 | pzuraq | woah |
| 18:08.23 | pzuraq | wait now it's gone |
| 18:08.25 | pzuraq | >.> |
| 18:08.45 | dcherniv | you're welcome |
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| 18:11.53 | lancelot_of | jelly, dcherniv thank you very much, it works!!! |
| 18:12.26 | lancelot_of | have a great evening, bye! |
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| 18:13.05 | dcherniv | lancelot_of, hey you too |
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| 18:15.44 | pzuraq | ok |
| 18:15.59 | pzuraq | now I'm trying to uninstall dovecot, keep getting "Virtual packages like 'dovecot' can't be removed" |
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| 18:16.07 | Cyclohexane | How do can I reconfigure sendmail? |
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| 18:18.24 | xsappyx | Cyclohexane: dpkg-reconfigure maybe? or are you trying to update the config? |
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| 18:19.38 | sbrothy | Trying to install squeeze using usb netinstall, but I get "mirror does not support specified release (squeeze)? |
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| 18:21.12 | sbrothy | I tried to use expert mode to set a static IP but I still get the samme error. any clues? |
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| 18:22.42 | tsccof | is ext2 going to be deprecated any time soon, or will it still be available for a long time to come? |
| 18:22.53 | folivora | Gday, anyone could help me with mozille firefox + flashplayer. I have installed flashplugin-nonfree, updated it but still my mozilla-firefox wont find it. I have replaced Iceweasel with firefox |
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| 18:23.13 | dcherniv | tsccof, ext2 will stick around for a while |
| 18:23.53 | zykotick9 | folivora: why are you using branded firefox instead of iceweasel? |
| 18:24.26 | tsccof | folivora: you need libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins |
| 18:24.35 | folivora | zykotick9: reason is some plugins which I need to run, because of my work environment and they wont work on iceweasel. (I dont know the reason) |
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| 18:25.27 | Cyclohexane | xsappyx: apparently dpkg-reconfigure doesn't exist |
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| 18:26.06 | folivora | tsccof: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 46 Dec 10 20:25 libflashplayer.so -> /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so |
| 18:26.15 | folivora | symbolik link should do the trick right? |
| 18:26.17 | zykotick9 | Cyclohexane: as root, you should be able to find dpkg-reconfigure (assuming you are using debian) |
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| 18:26.46 | tsccof | folivora: should... are you in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins? |
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| 18:27.58 | folivora | tsccof: yap |
| 18:28.21 | folivora | tsccof: I have installed "real" firefox, under /opt/firefox... |
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| 18:28.30 | burek | in lsusb i have several usb wlan cards listed, now, how can I see in ifconfig which one is what, of all these ? |
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| 18:29.21 | zykotick9 | burek: check "ifconfig -a" |
| 18:29.28 | sbrothy | please? any debian elder wanna look my way? this is slowly but inexorably driving up the wall.... |
| 18:30.04 | burek | zykotick9, yes, and? |
| 18:30.39 | xsappyx | sbrothy: have you tried a different mirror? |
| 18:30.53 | sbrothy | yes. several. even other countries. |
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| 18:31.03 | sbrothy | both with and without static ip |
| 18:31.18 | sney | static ip would make no difference in that case. |
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| 18:31.45 | sbrothy | no id figure not, but looking at forum posts on the subject it seems to have plaayed a role for other people earlier |
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| 18:32.13 | synamics | Does anyone know why all the default Debian binaries haven't Stack Canary? |
| 18:32.29 | sney | synamics: why they haven't what? |
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| 18:32.56 | synamics | sney, it's a protection for buffer overflow |
| 18:32.59 | sney | sbrothy: what installer are you using? |
| 18:33.06 | synamics | sney, it's obligatory |
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| 18:33.12 | synamics | very very useful |
| 18:33.40 | sney | synamics: that sounds like something that might be covered in http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ |
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| 18:33.54 | synamics | sney, let's see |
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| 18:34.47 | sbrothy | well... I made the usb boot image using unetbootin.... |
| 18:34.55 | sbrothy | ducks and covers... |
| 18:35.07 | sbrothy | I made it using windows you see |
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| 18:35.32 | synamics | sneay, I thought it was beccause the stable version of gcc |
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| 18:35.46 | synamics | doesn't compile the binaries with that protection by default |
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| 18:37.43 | sbrothy | you think 'cat'ing the boot img to the usb stick from a linux-boot would make difference? im about ready to try. you wont believe the trouble ive had... |
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| 18:37.59 | sney | sbrothy: no worries, but unetbootin does sometimes introduce weird behaviour. try it again, with https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer instead of unetbootin, and write the netinstall iso directly to the drive. yes, or with dd |
| 18:38.26 | xsappyx | synamics: you can get more info here http://wiki.debian.org/Hardening to enable stack protection |
| 18:38.38 | sbrothy | sney: will give that a try. |
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| 18:39.01 | sbrothy | although the install itself seems to work fine. im not overly optimistic |
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| 18:39.20 | synamics | xsappyx, thanks man |
| 18:39.39 | synamics | xsappyx, in Wheezy that's will be for default? |
| 18:39.44 | sbrothy | ill write it from a systemrescuecd session. see if linux makes it right. |
| 18:39.53 | sney | unetbootin is a workaround for installers that aren't already made for usb drives |
| 18:39.57 | sney | so it's weird when they are |
| 18:40.07 | sney | sbrothy: just remember to run 'sync' afterwards |
| 18:40.23 | xsappyx | synamics: im not sure if it will be enabled for wheezy or not |
| 18:41.25 | sbrothy | sney: will do |
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| 18:42.22 | synamics | xsappyx, the developers are crazy? This is very important |
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| 18:43.26 | synamics | xsappyx, thanks man, just one more thing |
| 18:43.36 | synamics | xsappyx, what I do with the already compiled binaries? |
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| 18:45.44 | atula | what is the best way to create user account if I am only allowing key/pass login? |
| 18:45.52 | atula | aving user send me their pub key? |
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| 18:46.29 | xsappyx | synamics: agreed it is a nice safety catch.. takes a lot of work to get it turned on by default though. there are some OSs that do have it enabled by default out there.. as for your compiled system, maybe something like a dpkg --list and then apt-get source + apt-get build-dep each of them? I haven't rebuilt a full deb install like that before though, just theory crafting |
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| 18:47.21 | xsappyx | synamics: there are probably good guides out there for rebuilding from source |
| 18:47.29 | burek | my connection has broke.. anyway, in lsusb i have several usb wlan cards listed, now, how can I see in ifconfig which one is what, of all these ? is there a way to associate these? |
| 18:48.26 | sney | burek: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules will associate interface names (e.g. wlan0, wlan1) with mac addresses |
| 18:48.36 | wols_ | burek: dmesg tells you? |
| 18:48.39 | synamics | xsappyx, ok |
| 18:48.45 | wols_ | also the MAC for each should |
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| 18:48.59 | synamics | xsappyx, well, the dpkg flags it's what define the stack protector, it's just to reinstall all the packages, right? |
| 18:49.08 | burek | sney, well i already see in ifconfig mac addresses :) |
| 18:49.21 | burek | im curious about a way to associate lsusb entries with ifconfig entries |
| 18:49.25 | sney | burek: ah, that's true. and the mac address should be printed on the dongle. |
| 18:49.35 | burek | that also :) |
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| 18:52.13 | Feigr | hello, I am having some issues with awesomewm, the one pixel border I have set around all windows gets a bit messed up when I resize or move windows on top of each other, it sort of disappears or smears. Anyone know what the problem might be? |
| 18:52.31 | Feigr | I am using pretty much the same config and theme file I have on Arch and I do not have this problem on that machine |
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| 18:53.21 | jhutchins_wk | Feigr: awesome is pretty niche, but once again this proves that Arch is not Debian. |
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| 18:53.47 | jhutchins_wk | Feigr: I presume there are version differences on some key awesome packages? |
| 18:54.21 | ws2k3 | what is the best way to place 3 linux servers in a local network |
| 18:54.24 | Feigr | I am not sure, but I assume there are some differences yes |
| 18:54.26 | ws2k3 | should i just use a vpn ? |
| 18:54.44 | Feigr | the menu also has some inconsistensies in its rendering on Debian |
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| 18:55.39 | burek | cat /sys/class/net/wlan0/device/modalias |
| 18:55.41 | zykotick9 | Feigr: i don't use borders so can't comment on that, but i haven't notice any menu rendering issues... |
| 18:55.44 | burek | this gives me what i need :) |
| 18:57.08 | Konomi | Feigr: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=awesome;dist=unstable try checking here then maybe submit your own bug report |
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| 18:58.25 | Feigr | ok I will thanks |
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| 18:58.45 | zykotick9 | Feigr: are you using stable,testing,sid? switch dist=unstable to dist=stable etc. |
| 18:58.48 | Feigr | it's hard for me to know where to start looking, I am very much a beginner with linux :) |
| 18:59.26 | Konomi | zykotick9: doesn't seem to make much of a diff I get mostly the same results changing that |
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| 18:59.29 | blackness | I got an issue, I can no longer maximize or un-maximize my windows, i have to stretch them out by hand, any ideas? using openbox+gnome |
| 18:59.31 | Feigr | zykotick9: I can't remember what I installed on the Debian VM, how do I check that? |
| 18:59.48 | zykotick9 | Feigr: lsb_release -a is one way |
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| 19:00.07 | xsappyx | ws2k3: what are you trying to do? just have 3 linux machines on your local LAN? plug them in and hopefully you have a dhcp server out there that makes everything 'just work'(tm) |
| 19:00.10 | Feigr | ah, 6.0.6 |
| 19:00.19 | greycat | Feigr: or cat /etc/debian_version |
| 19:00.22 | zykotick9 | Feigr: so stable/squeeze |
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| 19:01.12 | zykotick9 | Feigr: i'd compare awesome versions in stable/testing and compare to arch's version... |
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| 19:02.49 | Feigr | the Arch version is newer |
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| 19:03.30 | sbrothy | ok, im trying with a CD image on the usb stick. just to be sure... no net install. im close to just abandoning the whole thing |
| 19:04.09 | sbrothy | ill let you know if it worked in a little while 'cause i know youre just fying to know.... ;) |
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| 19:04.55 | passstab | does debian have any kind of membership program for supporters? |
| 19:05.03 | blackness | what do you mean passstab ? |
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| 19:06.01 | passstab | like fsf membership |
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| 19:06.30 | jaoow | why do not debian work on my laptop? |
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| 19:07.01 | Konomi | because your laptop is toast, need a little more information than that ^^ |
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| 19:08.06 | jaoow | i dnt know it just not worked |
| 19:08.30 | ws2k3 | i have 3 linux servers in different locations |
| 19:08.43 | ws2k3 | i wanne let them communicate over lan with eachother |
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| 19:10.19 | s98259 | How do I scroll in TTY? |
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| 19:11.10 | greycat | Depends on the terminal emulator you're in. Try Shift-PageUp first. |
| 19:11.15 | s98259 | ... |
| 19:11.18 | s98259 | greycat: TTY |
| 19:11.26 | greycat | Which one? The Linux console? |
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| 19:11.31 | s98259 | I don't have a GUI. |
| 19:11.47 | s98259 | greycat: It's as simple as this "TTY" |
| 19:11.48 | greycat | The Linux console uses Shift-PageUp but the history is VERY short and is lost when you switch to another virtual terminal. |
| 19:12.06 | greycat | "TTY" means teletype and is an acronym used to describe any sort of terminal or terminal emulator. |
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| 19:12.41 | geekwani_ | I'm running Debian wheezy base system with system utilities; How do I add Intel video driver to xorg, so as to run X-window system ? |
| 19:13.10 | greycat | geekwani_: apt-get install xorg |
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| 19:13.27 | geekwani_ | @greycat did that |
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| 19:13.36 | s98259 | greycat: It's not working. |
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| 19:13.48 | s98259 | I don't have a terminal emulator or X. |
| 19:14.08 | greycat | The Linux console is a terminal emulator. It has the properties I just described. VERY short history. All history lost when you switch VTs inside it. |
| 19:14.35 | greycat | So, shift-pageup should work UNLESS you already switched to this window to ask us, then tried to switch back to the other window, because switching windows loses the history (scrollback) completely. |
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| 19:15.51 | geekwani_ | @greycat: xorg is installed.. however it doesn't seem to have xorg.conf.. so i tried xorg -configure |
| 19:15.58 | sney | !empty xorg.conf |
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| 19:15.59 | dpkg | Starting from Lenny, /etc/X11/xorg.conf is often basically empty or non-existent, as X auto-detects your hardware and starts the X server accordingly, nothing to worry about. Ask me about <xorg config> and <xrandr> for ways to configure Xorg. See also <xorg config squeeze>, <xorg.conf.d>, <xorg hal>. |
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| 19:16.21 | sney | and if you put in an xorg.conf anyway you may break things. |
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| 19:17.07 | geekwani_ | @sney does that mean video driver is detected during installation.. |
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| 19:17.26 | geekwani_ | @sney i mean while installing debian ? |
| 19:17.37 | sney | geekwani_: all of the free xorg drivers are installed along with xorg, and the kernel components are part of the stock debian kernel |
| 19:18.12 | sney | it's not like windows where there's a driver you have to install from a webpage. it's already there. you can make sure xserver-xorg-video-intel is installed if you want to check. |
| 19:18.21 | sney | if you did something stupid like installing without recommends, it may not have come along |
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| 19:18.30 | geekwani_ | @sney ok.. doing that |
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| 19:21.32 | geekwani_ | @sney thanks :) it seems intel driver was not installed.. |
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| 19:22.25 | sney | geekwani_: see above comment about recommends. it's really a bad idea to disable things in the name of "minimal install" without knowing what you're doing. |
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| 19:22.41 | sney | it doesn't work, but man does it save disk space! |
| 19:23.15 | Feigr | sney: 8 hours of figuring out what's wrong to get 1 less MB of idle RAM usage is the best! |
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| 19:26.21 | geekwani_ | @sney what i did, was a portable installation on a USB drive, using virtualbox.. so intel drivers were missed.. |
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| 19:26.45 | geekwani_ | @sney but thx again :) |
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| 19:30.48 | mel- | hello |
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| 19:31.20 | secher | I am trying to get Apache to allow me to view files via the web. I have a symlink from DocRoot/files to /path/files. /path/files/* is 0760 and www-data is added to the owner's group. When I click the link in a browser, I get 403. FollowSymLinks is enabled in sites-available What am I doing incorrectly? |
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| 19:32.58 | greycat | "added to the owner's group" doesn't mean anything, if that's like "adduser username www-data" |
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| 19:33.47 | jelly-home | secher: do you have a <Directory /> section or at least a <Directory /path/files> and relevant Deny and Allow lines in there? |
| 19:33.49 | secher | greycat: sorry, I added www-data to the group of the owner for directory tree for the files. |
| 19:34.15 | greycat | I'm not sure what group-identify Apache runs with (possibly www-data, like the user-identity), but the file's permissions have to allow either the Apache user-identity or group-identity to access and read the file. |
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| 19:35.00 | secher | jelly-home: Other than /var/www, no. I am using Debian's plain vanilla single VHost configuration. Should I have a separate <Directory /> for where the files are stored? |
| 19:35.00 | greycat | secher: what are the owner and group of the FILE in question, the one that's got permissions 760? |
| 19:35.21 | secher | secher:secher |
| 19:35.52 | secher | and I did an addgroup www-data secher |
| 19:35.59 | secher | Greycat: and I did an addgroup www-data secher |
| 19:36.00 | jelly-home | secher: yes you should; I don't remember whether it has to be outside the vhost in the global config or not. Use the apache config docs. |
| 19:36.15 | greycat | secher: addgroup does NOTHING here. Apache doesn't care about the secondary group memberships of some other user account that it's not running as. |
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| 19:36.30 | greycat | secher: the file must be readable by user www-data, or by group whatever-apache-runs-as |
| 19:36.54 | jelly-home | secher: in fact, debian used to have a long time ago, to enable viewing /usr/share/doc on the default web |
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| 19:37.42 | secher | greycat: so I should make www-data the group owner of the file directory tree? |
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| 19:38.09 | mel- | i know this is hard to believe but out of a sudden my bridging on my debian squeeze server is fucked. networking is pratically dead as soon as the bridge comes up. (i use briding, since i have several kvm virtual machines running on it). this is what gets logged: http://pastebin.com/TNT9T4fn |
| 19:38.09 | greycat | That, or make it readable by everyone, or move the files to somewhere less private. |
| 19:38.17 | mel- | in case anyone has an idea, i would be very greatful. |
| 19:38.23 | secher | jelly-home: I'll add one in there. Thanks or the tip, Jelly-Home |
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| 19:38.56 | secher | Greycat: I'll do jut that, thanks man! |
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| 19:40.06 | xsappyx | mel-: what kind of device is upstream? some type of smart switch? |
| 19:41.12 | mel- | xsappyx: i'm not sure what you mean. you are not asking for *my* networking interface, right? all i know is my gateway, which does all the routing for me. |
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| 19:43.03 | xsappyx | mel-: the link is going up and down on your ethernet interface from this dmesg snippet.. maybe the next network device you're plugged in to is bringing the link up and down.. just wondering what your network looks like upstream. this at home or work? |
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| 19:43.17 | s98259 | :o |
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| 19:45.57 | mel- | xsappyx: this is at a data center. it's a root server. |
| 19:46.34 | sbrothy | I'm really having trouble with installing debian. I feel Ive tried a plethora of installation-procedures. I have a 4 GB usb drive and a laptop with wire access to the internet. What image do I need to flash onto the drive? |
| 19:46.53 | blubberdiblub | mel-, install firmware-realtek, maybe? |
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| 19:47.34 | sbrothy | I'm not stupid. Ive had 2 DVDs fail for mechanical reasons and 3 netinstall attempts fail for "mirror doesnt support squeeze" and now a usb install fail because it didnt recognize it as a boot disk |
| 19:47.43 | jaoow | sbrothy: give up before it's all too late |
| 19:47.52 | sbrothy | yeh hah |
| 19:47.57 | mel- | blubberdiblub: i have done so. (do i need to do anything after package installation?) |
| 19:48.20 | blubberdiblub | mel-, yeah, you probably need to remove and insert the module again |
| 19:48.58 | secher | greycat: jelly-home: Thanks for the help guys. I got pulled away, we just had a laptop stolen. :-/ |
| 19:49.14 | blubberdiblub | mel-, or just reboot, if you can afford the downtime |
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| 19:49.34 | jelly-home | sbrothy: could you be behind an eeevil transparent proxy that munges up the connections to one particular, or any debian mirror? |
| 19:49.34 | mel- | blubberdiblub: a module? i am running a self-compiled linux (v3.4.2) -- again, since months the same kernel and problem appeared just now. this linux has no module support (everything required is builtstraight in) |
| 19:49.58 | mel- | blubberdiblub: i can afford any downtime -- as all virtual machines are offline since hours because of this crap. :) |
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| 19:50.55 | blubberdiblub | mel-, well, since obviously your r8169 is built in then, you'd probably need to reboot to make it use the firmware (if the firmware does anything for your specific type of NIC) |
| 19:50.58 | mel- | blubberdiblub: do i need module suport for firmware-realtek? |
| 19:51.12 | mel- | blubberdiblub: i have done reboots since i have installed that package |
| 19:51.28 | blubberdiblub | well, then i don't know |
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| 19:51.54 | xsappyx | mel-: blubberdiblub has a couple good ideas, try those.. if those dont work, ask your network guys to check that port on the switch and see if they have errors or anything in their logs |
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| 19:52.06 | blubberdiblub | mel-, you could try turning off autonegotiation and set the link speed directly |
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| 19:54.08 | blubberdiblub | mel-, using ethtool |
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| 19:58.46 | mel- | is there a log file listing the changes done by the most recent dist-upgrade? |
| 19:58.54 | mel- | i.e., which packages got installed/which removed? |
| 19:59.08 | blubberdiblub | /var/log/aptitude |
| 19:59.13 | blubberdiblub | if you're using aptitude |
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| 19:59.18 | mel- | i used apt-get |
| 19:59.45 | greycat | I don't believe so |
| 20:00.02 | mel- | aah |
| 20:00.03 | mel- | there is! |
| 20:00.14 | mel- | /var/log/apt/history* |
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| 20:00.17 | mel- | cool |
| 20:00.40 | greycat | oh, nice! |
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| 20:03.39 | enlace_quimico | Hi. After updating my bios, I couldn't start up my computer. The kernel seems to be having a hard time finding my LVM volumes. Any suggestions? |
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| 20:04.00 | enlace_quimico | I was able to revert to my previous bios, and everything was fine again. |
| 20:04.14 | ompaul | don't update your bios without good reason |
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| 20:04.42 | ompaul | the thing is the address of stuff may have changed ... and without you checking that you won't know |
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| 20:05.36 | enlace_quimico | good advice. i was hoping to achieve a stable overclock with cpu microcode and me firmware updates. |
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| 20:06.08 | ompaul | you want overclocking and you are running lvm okaaaaaa |
| 20:06.12 | ompaul | backs away |
| 20:06.15 | enlace_quimico | lol |
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| 20:06.37 | cusco | lol |
| 20:07.01 | enlace_quimico | trying to pass some time, see how much i could overclock. |
| 20:07.15 | ompaul | fix a bug or something |
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| 20:08.31 | enlace_quimico | good advice again. i should take up music. |
| 20:08.34 | enlace_quimico | too |
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| 20:10.37 | mel- | after having installed a firmware package (e.g. firmware-realtek), do i need to build a new initramfs or something? |
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| 20:11.17 | mel- | or how do i make sure that the new firmware is used? whatever it is i might have to do: do i need to do it once or on every reboot? |
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| 20:11.50 | greycat | It didn't generate new initrd images for you when the package was installed? |
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| 20:12.23 | greycat | Anyway, there appears to be a .... /usr/sbin/update-initramfs you could try. |
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| 20:13.28 | mel- | greycat: i don't know if it id. but when running update-initramfs in verbose mode it mentions a lot of files, but nothing firmware related |
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| 20:18.00 | mel- | should i be able to install linux-images from backports on squeeze? or is this rather dangerous? |
| 20:19.03 | gnarface | there are backported kernels |
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| 20:19.23 | mel- | so it should be alright |
| 20:19.40 | gnarface | well, they're no more dangerous than anything else in backports, except unlike a text editor gone bad that they'll cripple your system if you're out of luck |
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| 20:19.47 | ws2k3 | how can make a lan for 3 linux server on 3 different locations? should i use a vpn ? |
| 20:20.05 | gnarface | ws2k3: yes, you should use a VPN |
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| 20:20.31 | gnarface | ws2k3: openvpn is the best one |
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| 20:22.59 | censor | hi all |
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| 20:24.10 | censor | i got my inet link upgrade and should now be able to use dualstack ipv4/ipv6, i've been using a tunnel previously and everything worked reasonably well, but i somehow can't get the native IPv6 to |
| 20:24.12 | censor | *work |
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| 20:25.00 | censor | i do receive a fe80:: address on the ppp interface, and with rdisc6 i can see the prefix that was assigned to me, but i don't know which router to use as the default gw |
| 20:25.12 | censor | and how to automate it all on reconnect... |
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| 20:27.29 | sbrothy | jelly-home: the proxy idea crossed my mind, but im behind a normal private router. one i even have a cable to. .. |
| 20:28.03 | sbrothy | im no expert on networks though. or anything else for that matter. im just a massive nerd. :) |
| 20:28.06 | jelly-home | would said router have broken dns recursor perhaps? |
| 20:28.19 | jelly-home | a* broken |
| 20:28.52 | sliddjur | http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mj/sleuth/?domain=student481.linuxkurs.tfe.umu.se&server=&serverip=&action=Submit&.cgifields=verbose Im trying to setup a DNS server. How do I add another nameserver to my domain? And what about the other error why doesnt it see my reverse record? :s |
| 20:29.07 | sbrothy | im a selfproclaimed nerd that pityfully fails to install debian on a laptop with several usb sticks and several laptops and and a wired connection to the iweb available |
| 20:29.25 | sbrothy | has a rare proud moment |
| 20:29.33 | jelly-home | gnarface: do you have an opinion of n2n as vpn, whether v1 or v2? |
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| 20:30.06 | gabriel__ | hi |
| 20:30.21 | gabriel__ | my pc won't load a debian image |
| 20:30.32 | gabriel__ | but it load ubuntu and arch 's images |
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| 20:33.03 | somiaj | what debian image are you trying to load and why won't it load? |
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| 20:34.08 | sbrothy | the docs say i need to cat a single iso install image onto a usb stick. looking at ie. http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/ im presented with several files. what exactly is the image i need to cat/sync to the usb stick in order to prevail against these insurmountable odds`? |
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| 20:35.22 | jelly-home | sbrothy: the normal netinst (or any 1st CD or DVD) iso is the one. |
| 20:35.56 | sbrothy | ive just tried with the 1. cd. no luck.. lemme try again |
| 20:36.02 | somiaj | those are some strange images you linked, I would use anotehr mirror |
| 20:36.10 | sbrothy | yeh |
| 20:36.11 | gabriel__ | somiaj, proxmox, and debian 6 netinst |
| 20:36.23 | sbrothy | point taken. just thought i was onto something there for a sec |
| 20:36.24 | gabriel__ | it just get stuck |
| 20:36.33 | sbrothy | somiaj: - ^ |
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| 20:36.56 | jelly-home | sbrothy: how exactly did you write it onto the stick? |
| 20:37.13 | jelly-home | sbrothy: and how exactly did it fail to work? |
| 20:37.17 | sbrothy | I cat'ed the 1. CD image onto usb and sync'ed |
| 20:37.29 | sbrothy | says it missing isolinux... |
| 20:37.37 | sbrothy | ... sec... |
| 20:37.44 | sbrothy | isolinux.bin |
| 20:37.46 | sbrothy | missing |
| 20:37.49 | somiaj | sbrothy: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.6/amd64/iso-cd/debian-6.0.6-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 20:37.55 | sbrothy | (or corrupt) |
| 20:38.05 | sbrothy | thx. will try that one |
| 20:38.06 | somiaj | there is a hybrid .iso you can just cat to a usbdrive |
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| 20:39.36 | jelly-home | wonders wth else did sbrothy try since that's the canonical 64bit netinst |
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| 20:39.45 | gabriel__ | sbrothy, how can i boot it in verbose mode? |
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| 20:39.59 | cwong2012 | whatever happend to modprobe -l? the -l option is no longer available? |
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| 20:40.33 | sbrothy | yes i know. thats why im so ..... so.... whats the word... |
| 20:40.38 | greycat | cwong2012: maybe you want lsmod? |
| 20:41.08 | cwong2012 | no. i want to list all the modules for the current kernel. not just the installed/loaded. |
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| 20:43.10 | sbrothy | gabriel__: i dont think you meant me....(?) |
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| 20:43.25 | damacus | cwong2012: modprobe -l works for me |
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| 20:43.59 | cwong2012 | k. |
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| 20:44.14 | jelly-home | cwong2012: which debian release? dpkg -S $(which modprobe)? |
| 20:44.17 | damacus | oh. huh.. looks like it's in squeeze, but not wheezy (didnt work there.) |
| 20:44.23 | cwong2012 | $ sudo modprobe -V |
| 20:44.23 | cwong2012 | kmod version 9 |
| 20:44.28 | cwong2012 | ya. |
| 20:44.47 | jelly-home | which debian release? |
| 20:44.53 | cwong2012 | its no big deal. but i just find it weird. |
| 20:45.13 | cwong2012 | i am on wheezy |
| 20:45.34 | jelly-home | I guess you'll have to run find on /lib/modules/$(uname -r) |
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| 20:46.13 | jelly-home | didn't know about modprobe -l at all |
| 20:46.31 | gabriel__ | sbrothy, i see no message to me :/ |
| 20:47.00 | damacus | cwong2012: yeah. i did also see this: |
| 20:47.01 | damacus | awk -F: '{print $1}' /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.dep |
| 20:47.31 | jelly-home | that's just cheating |
| 20:47.43 | cwong2012 | :D |
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| 20:48.05 | cwong2012 | damacus: that works... thanks. (= |
| 20:48.18 | damacus | np |
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| 20:49.48 | sbrothy | 21:39 < gabriel__> sbrothy, how can i boot it in verbose mode? |
| 20:50.11 | sbrothy | sorry, should've been pm but INS added a CR |
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| 20:52.15 | pmo_ | i face some odd thing with character pipe.. i have to avoid leave a space between pipe and next character.. like in "unicode" or something there is an invisible character in between, which avoid the pipe to be interpreted properly, any idea what's wrong ? |
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| 20:52.44 | JohnnyL | help with opengl apps under debian, webgl works. |
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| 20:54.11 | sbrothy | somiaj: That image did the trick! Thank you! Thank you very much. I dunno what Ive been downloading and bootin' but it shure as hooll wasnt that. :) |
| 20:54.49 | greycat | I've found that the best way to find the Debian net install images is to ask Google where they are. |
| 20:55.05 | greycat | Anything else, and you end up in some weird place like sbrothy did. |
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| 20:55.21 | sbrothy | hah. second that. |
| 20:55.30 | sbrothy | not that i didnt try |
| 20:55.40 | sbrothy | well lets see... |
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| 21:00.44 | mel- | i don't understand the logic by which /boot/grub/grub.cfg gets generated |
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| 21:01.03 | mel- | i remove a kernel. i call update-grub and the just removed kernel is still reference in grub.cfg as the only kernel |
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| 21:01.23 | mel- | i have several kernels installed, i call update-grub and grub.cfg contaisn only one kernel |
| 21:01.29 | mel- | why is that? |
| 21:02.17 | mel- | what is the difference between menu.lst and grub.cfg? |
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| 21:03.07 | mel- | (ah, okay the last question answered by grub1 vs grub2 i think) |
| 21:03.12 | greycat | Isn't menu.lst only used in "legacy grub"? |
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| 21:04.32 | mel- | i hope i didn't understand http://wiki.debian.org/Grub wrong |
| 21:04.32 | bubull3 | mel-: http://wiki.debian.org/Grub |
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| 21:05.20 | mel- | grub configuration is getting more and more complicated from release to release it seems :-/ |
| 21:05.56 | mel- | well, on my squeeze system menu.lst has been used |
| 21:06.08 | mel- | since grub.cfg references a nonexisting kernel |
| 21:06.18 | bubull3 | grub v1 then |
| 21:06.20 | mel- | i don't know why it does not get updated |
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| 21:06.38 | greycat | Was it installed as squeeze, or upgraded to squeeze? |
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| 21:07.12 | mel- | installed as squeeze |
| 21:08.11 | greycat | then I have no idea why you have a menu.lst *at all* |
| 21:08.32 | mel- | neither do i. |
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| 21:08.54 | gabriel__ | is possible to install debian without a monitor? |
| 21:08.59 | gnarface | really old squeeze disk maybe? |
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| 21:09.13 | mel- | i remember the time when i actually understood grub configuration. ;) |
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| 21:09.29 | s98259 | Okies... |
| 21:09.52 | gnarface | gabriel__: there are methods... serial console, preseeding... blindfolded memorization.... |
| 21:10.08 | s98259 | ncmpcpp when I update the db it only fetches the root dir of every album. It's not fetching the contents of the albums. |
| 21:10.29 | greycat | gabriel__: ... installing on a different machine and moving the disk to the target machine |
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| 21:11.45 | gabriel__ | when i try to install debian, the monitor become black |
| 21:11.55 | gabriel__ | but the pc is reacting |
| 21:12.07 | pmo_ | gabriel__, change monitor, or paint it with a debian pic |
| 21:12.13 | greycat | Booting from which CD/image? At what point does it become black? |
| 21:12.46 | gabriel__ | debian netinst and proxmox |
| 21:12.48 | pmo_ | gabriel__, try to boot without graphics.. console mode |
| 21:12.54 | gabriel__ | sure... |
| 21:13.01 | greycat | which netinst? squeeze or wheezy? i386 or amd64? |
| 21:13.05 | gabriel__ | but ubuntu and arch works fine |
| 21:13.12 | gabriel__ | debian 6 amd64 |
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| 21:14.21 | gnarface | gabriel__: install in text mode then update |
| 21:14.29 | s98259 | er... |
| 21:14.36 | mel- | i figured that when i set the bridge's STP to 'off', the network connection seems to be stable? |
| 21:14.42 | gabriel__ | gnarface, how? |
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| 21:14.53 | s98259 | I did chown s98259 /home/s98259/* as root. |
| 21:15.00 | gnarface | gabriel__: the option is probably labeled "expert mode" |
| 21:15.11 | s98259 | Has that set everything within the home dir to owner s98259 ? |
| 21:15.27 | s98259 | I copied some stuff to that home dir as root user. |
| 21:15.33 | greycat | s98259: only one level of stuff (no recursing into subdirs), and it missed all the dot files. |
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| 21:15.46 | s98259 | greycat: I want to do subdirs too. |
| 21:15.47 | s98259 | :/ |
| 21:15.58 | greycat | s98259: chown -R s98259 /home/s98259 |
| 21:16.03 | s98259 | rite |
| 21:16.04 | s98259 | :/ |
| 21:16.08 | s98259 | I forgot about -R |
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| 21:16.18 | pmo_ | gonna load 417MB in 5 mins (arch).. plenty of bandwidth but don't know what to do with it :) |
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| 21:17.05 | s98259 | It worked! greycat :D |
| 21:17.07 | s98259 | ::D |
| 21:17.14 | s98259 | Happy musical times for me nows :3 |
| 21:17.16 | s98259 | thankies |
| 21:17.18 | gabriel__ | gnarface, the same... |
| 21:17.31 | gabriel__ | gnarface, it loads something then black screen |
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| 21:18.30 | gnarface | gabriel__: you picked the wrong mode |
| 21:18.32 | pmo_ | gabriel__, graphic card driver issue.. i suppose, hence you must start without graphics.. and then update as some suggested |
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| 21:19.24 | gabriel__ | gnarface, how can i choose the right mode? |
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| 21:19.50 | gnarface | gabriel__: one of the expert modes should be text-only, if there are more than one listed |
| 21:19.59 | gnarface | gabriel__: the labels should be very clear |
| 21:21.12 | gnarface | is he not even seeing the menu? |
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| 21:21.55 | gnarface | gabriel__: how long ago did you download this squeeze image, and what url did you download it from, exactly? |
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| 21:22.05 | greycat | That is a very good question. I asked at what point it turns black, but I've been distracted so I'm not sure whether he answered. |
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| 21:22.29 | pmo_ | gabriel__, you should have something like (boot) on text mode, this is the way to go... (i feel stupid saying this, but who knows) |
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| 21:22.47 | gabriel__ | i've tryed every mode... |
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| 21:23.00 | gabriel__ | and after loading intr-something- it becomes black |
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| 21:23.15 | gabriel__ | i can see grub, i can boot ubuntu with graphic |
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| 21:23.45 | gnarface | gabriel__: oh, so it loads *grub* before the screen goes black? that's big news |
| 21:23.52 | gabriel__ | yeah |
| 21:24.07 | gnarface | gabriel__: that is something you probably should have mentioned a long time ago |
| 21:24.19 | greycat | so, wait, it's not booting the CD at all? |
| 21:24.32 | gnarface | yea now it sounds like he's talking about a completed install |
| 21:24.34 | pmo_ | gabriel__, you may try <Function> keys, sometimes it shows logs and more ! |
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| 21:24.52 | pmo_ | gabriel__, long time since i used a netinst sorry |
| 21:25.28 | gnarface | 's troll alarm just went off |
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| 21:27.29 | gabriel__ | fn keys doesn't work |
| 21:27.53 | greycat | gabriel__: is it even booting the CD, or is it going straight to hard disk? |
| 21:28.19 | msl09 | hello, I'm running wheezy and the kernel package is being kept back, how do I know why? |
| 21:28.30 | gabriel__ | the disc continue to run for some time... |
| 21:28.32 | gabriel__ | then it die |
| 21:28.47 | msl09 | the dummy package linux-image-686-pae |
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| 21:29.19 | greycat | gabriel__: "the disc" means the hard disk? Meaning it is not even TRYING to boot the CD? |
| 21:29.32 | pmo_ | wonder what people do with their bandwith those days ?! |
| 21:29.41 | jelly-home | msl09: which command shows it as being kept back? |
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| 21:29.55 | greycat | pmo_: in my case, my offspring watch streaming video continuously, all fucking day long, every fucking day. |
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| 21:30.22 | jelly-home | msl09: with a testing release you can expect tu have to run full-upgrades fairly often to get all the updated packages |
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| 21:30.36 | gabriel__ | ops. |
| 21:30.41 | fbs | im getting some kernel modules not loaded kernel mismatch problem when trying to install debian. Tried 6.0.6, wheezy b4 and weekly wheezy |
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| 21:30.52 | gabriel__ | greycat, the cd |
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| 21:31.09 | msl09 | jelly-home: apt-get upgrade |
| 21:31.13 | greycat | gabriel__: do you see the Debian logo? |
| 21:31.38 | gabriel__ | greycat, i see the one in grub |
| 21:31.42 | Guest81551 | Hi, I try to find out how to completely disable laptop-lid actions on my laptop, the button is not working correctly and starts my netbook from suspend |
| 21:31.44 | pmo_ | greycat, i might get too old, and easily get bored after a while with streaming.. but i wouldn't mind some "scholar" streaming, to make me less stupid by the end of stream ;-) :) |
| 21:31.44 | gabriel__ | greycat, after nothinh.. |
| 21:32.04 | jelly-home | msl09: right. You will have to do a dist-upgrade instead every now and then |
| 21:32.05 | Arrowmaster | gabriel__: would your system happen to be UEFI |
| 21:32.21 | Guest81551 | alternately it would be enough if I could suspend on laptop-lid-close but not wake up except with the power button |
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| 21:32.32 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell msl09 about dist-upgrade |
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| 21:32.58 | gabriel__ | Arrowmaster, i don't think |
| 21:33.02 | gabriel__ | it is an old pc |
| 21:33.02 | msl09 | jelly-home: oh |
| 21:33.38 | greycat | 16:13 gabriel__> debian 6 amd64 |
| 21:33.51 | greycat | Is it actually an amd64-capable PC? |
| 21:33.52 | Arrowmaster | ok nvm then, i just had some recent issues with not being able to boot with UEFI |
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| 21:34.19 | gabriel__ | greycat, it is an amd athlon x2 |
| 21:34.22 | gabriel__ | i thin it is... |
| 21:34.27 | gabriel__ | i thin it is... |
| 21:34.27 | Arrowmaster | its not |
| 21:34.27 | Guest81551 | here is my lid.sh: http://paste.debian.net/215462/ |
| 21:34.31 | gabriel__ | what? |
| 21:34.33 | gabriel__ | O.o |
| 21:34.40 | Arrowmaster | i dont remember any athlons being 64 |
| 21:34.53 | gabriel__ | wait.. |
| 21:34.53 | damacus | athlon 64 |
| 21:35.05 | gnarface | they're ALL 64 now |
| 21:35.09 | gabriel__ | Athlon 64 x2 3800+ |
| 21:35.18 | greycat | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Athlon_X2_microprocessors is rather confusing. |
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| 21:35.21 | msl09 | jelly-home: oh thanks, nice touch to inform me about how dist-upgrade works I was confused when I read the debian reference guide |
| 21:35.32 | gnarface | every model after the athlon xp was a 64-bit chip i believe in fact |
| 21:35.46 | gnarface | (athlon xp was 32-bit though) |
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| 21:35.59 | gabriel__ | it loads ubuntu 64... |
| 21:36.03 | greycat | OK |
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| 21:36.23 | JohnnyL | help with opengl apps under debian, webgl works. |
| 21:36.28 | greycat | So you boot the Debian 6 amd64 CD (net install? full CD 1?) and you see... what? |
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| 21:37.12 | gabriel__ | greycat, i see grub... i tell to install, the screen become black |
| 21:37.27 | greycat | So you DO get a menu of some kind. And you select something. |
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| 21:37.36 | gabriel__ | greycat, yes |
| 21:37.41 | greycat | What is on this menu? |
| 21:37.44 | jelly-home | msl09: debian-handbook might be a bit more friendly, but I just skimmed it so I can't confirm |
| 21:38.43 | gabriel__ | greycat, install, graphic install, other, help |
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| 21:38.56 | Arrowmaster | that doesnt sound right |
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| 21:39.15 | Arrowmaster | there should be an advanced menu |
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| 21:39.19 | gabriel__ | yes |
| 21:39.26 | gabriel__ | sorry |
| 21:39.26 | gabriel__ | not other, advanced |
| 21:39.26 | pmo_ | danielig, check out keycode with xev.. i suppose |
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| 21:40.45 | gabriel__ | i've tryed xpert, install, graphical install |
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| 21:41.36 | greycat | I've never seen a box where the normal "install" doesn't work, so I dunno what's going on there |
| 21:42.01 | gabriel__ | greycat, :/ |
| 21:42.06 | greycat | I mean, it may fail when it tries to detect the disk or the NIC, but it shouldn't completely fail to bring up a visible user interface |
| 21:42.27 | gabriel__ | greycat, maybe a problem with the graphic card... |
| 21:42.44 | danielig | xev does not record the laptop lid, it seems some kind of special button |
| 21:42.51 | danielig | below x? |
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| 21:43.33 | pmo_ | danielig, something on dmesg or tail /var/log/messages.. it may print out some code maybe |
| 21:44.14 | pmo_ | danielig, you could check out with "ls -lt /var/log" to see which log files have change at time you trigger this button.. |
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| 21:45.09 | pmo_ | danielig, i wonder if that could be directly interpreted by some kernel moduled.. loaded specifically for your laptop !!! |
| 21:45.23 | greycat | gabriel__: at this point all I can guess is that you'd need to boot the installer with special advanced magic parameters of some kind, and I wouldn't know what those would be. You may also consider bypassing squeeze and going straight for wheezy. |
| 21:45.40 | emraan | howto install driver nvidia |
| 21:45.50 | emraan | gf2 MX400 |
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| 21:46.21 | danielig | no, there is acpi lid.sh that is doing the action pm-suspend upon lid-close or blank-screen or whatever, I just want to disable that action, is this in the bios? |
| 21:47.04 | pmo_ | danielig, could be in the bios too, yes |
| 21:47.36 | danielig | goodnight |
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| 21:48.23 | gabriel__ | greycat, i try... |
| 21:48.31 | sje46 | I have a bunch of directories in /media/ which end in "_ |
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| 21:48.43 | gabriel__ | when will be the relase of wheezy? |
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| 21:49.05 | sje46 | Is there a way I can get rid of all of these _ directories? umount /media/*_ isn't working...it's just hanging. |
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| 21:49.59 | gabriel__ | greycat, the same with wheezy. ... |
| 21:50.41 | wols_ | !wwwr |
| 21:50.41 | dpkg | I don't know when Wheezy will release, but I can say that it will be sooner if you help. Ask me about <wheezy pool> for contributed release date guesses. Wheezy was frozen on June 30th, 2012 -- ask me about <freeze>. If you'd like wheezy to release sooner rather than later, perhaps you could help squash some <rc bugs>! |
| 21:50.41 | pmo_ | sje46, i would suggest rm instead rm, rmir, or more dangerous "rm -rf /media/*_" |
| 21:50.53 | greycat | Wheezy is a bit more complex, as I learned the hard way -- on some machines your BIOS may attempt to boot the wheezy CD in "EFI mode" instead of "legacy mode" and you get a different menu |
| 21:51.02 | jelly-home | sje46: are any of those actually in use at the moment? You may just rmdir them if they aren't |
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| 21:51.08 | sje46 | pmo_: but they're still mounted. |
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| 21:51.15 | greycat | And the "EFI mode" menu seems to default to a graphical installer. |
| 21:51.20 | sje46 | And I can't actually unmount them, because they're just...hanging. |
| 21:51.23 | greycat | Which I did not attempt to run. |
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| 21:51.24 | pmo_ | sje46, do they appear when you run "mount" ? |
| 21:51.27 | Dr_GIM | gabriel__ have you tried just letting it go? Just see what happens eventually? sadly that fixes the problem at times |
| 21:51.42 | sje46 | pmo_: Yes, they do. |
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| 21:52.02 | gabriel__ | Dr_GIM, yes... after some times the cd stop turning... |
| 21:52.18 | jelly-home | sje46: pastebin the output of your "mount" command |
| 21:52.20 | pmo_ | sje46, "fuser -vm /media/<whatever>_" check out which process use it |
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| 21:52.45 | JohnnyL | emraan: did you get opengl to work? |
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| 21:52.47 | pmo_ | sje46, a "fuser -k /media/<whatever>_" is suppose to kill such process |
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| 21:52.50 | gabriel1 | here i am.. |
| 21:52.56 | JohnnyL | I have webgl working fine. just can't make it use opengl with other apps. |
| 21:52.58 | sje46 | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/ySgucT1M |
| 21:53.03 | JohnnyL | i get a dependency error |
| 21:53.06 | gabriel1 | i try using the vga of my desktop on it... |
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| 21:53.15 | JohnnyL | maybe cause I used nv*.run script, not an apt-get |
| 21:53.19 | Nik05 | hey guys |
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| 21:54.00 | Nik05 | im feeling really stupid. I just compiled libdvdcss2 (because its not in debrepo) and installed it in /usr/local/lib |
| 21:54.11 | Nik05 | how do i get my programs to find it there? :) |
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| 21:54.35 | jelly-home | sje46: did you disconnect and reconnect the same disk two times uncleanly? |
| 21:54.36 | greycat | Nik05: run "ldconfig" as root |
| 21:54.55 | greycat | (unless you modified the default /etc/ld.so* stuff) |
| 21:54.57 | sje46 | jelly-home: yes, a bunch of times. |
| 21:55.09 | sje46 | It disconnects itself. It's really annoying. |
| 21:55.26 | jelly-home | sje46: problems with power? |
| 21:55.38 | sje46 | Not house power. |
| 21:55.42 | jelly-home | at this point the cleanest thing to do is just reboot |
| 21:55.58 | jelly-home | sje46: power to that external device, I mean |
| 21:56.10 | gabriel1 | greycat, how can i tell him to use the vga card instead of the on on the mobo? |
| 21:56.12 | sje46 | IS there a way I can just force them to umount, jelly-home ? Because I really don't want to reboot 50 times a day. |
| 21:56.21 | pmo_ | sje46, umount -l /media/<whatever>_ |
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| 21:56.26 | Nik05 | greycat i can just put it in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/libdvdcss.conf or something like that? |
| 21:56.33 | greycat | gabriel1: ohhh... um, err, I dunno? can you just move the monitor over to the other card? |
| 21:56.40 | gabriel1 | yes... |
| 21:56.47 | gabriel1 | but nothing happens... |
| 21:56.48 | Arrowmaster | Nik05: deb-multimedia.org has a libdvdcss package too |
| 21:56.48 | jelly-home | sje46: what pmo_ suggests will just hide the issue |
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| 21:56.56 | Nik05 | oh but i see that /usr/local/lib is already in libc.conf... |
| 21:56.59 | greycat | Nik05: /usr/local/lib is already in the default libc.conf file so just running "ldconfig" as root should do it. |
| 21:57.05 | sje46 | /sbin/umount.udisks: no device for /media/507e5943-24c7-40e1-9f74-1878eeeb033a_: No such device |
| 21:57.05 | Nik05 | ok thanks |
| 21:57.08 | sje46 | Unmount failed: There is already a job running |
| 21:57.23 | JohnnyL | what a simple opengl app in wheezy for debian i can apt-get? |
| 21:57.32 | Arrowmaster | glxgears |
| 21:57.34 | Nik05 | Arrowmaster can i trust deb-multimedia..? :P |
| 21:57.38 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 21:57.50 | pmo_ | sje46, "hdparm -z" maybe |
| 21:58.00 | Arrowmaster | Nik05: its run by a debian dev |
| 21:58.19 | jelly-home | sje46: inspect your dmesg log, see which /dev/sd* is still active if any. then force deletion of all the other ones using echo 1 > /sys/block/sdc/device/delete (replace sdc with whatever) |
| 21:58.25 | Nik05 | ok and the bugs are also on bugs.debian.org? |
| 21:59.00 | Arrowmaster | Nik05: no |
| 21:59.05 | jelly-home | sje46: if the disk also spins down and back up 50 times a day, it won't last long |
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| 21:59.27 | Nik05 | well the one i compiled is working fine :) |
| 21:59.36 | jelly-home | sje46: is it a WD device? |
| 21:59.44 | Nik05 | thanks guys. |
| 21:59.58 | JohnnyL | i tried glxgears, i get a dependency error. :( |
| 22:00.07 | sje46 | I disconnected it physically, did sudo rm -r /media/* and it says rm: cannot remove directory `/media/955cec1d-9c37-4103-b652-c1709ba75c95__': Device or resource busy |
| 22:00.23 | pmo_ | i am a fan of WD device :) |
| 22:00.24 | jelly-home | don't rm, that's silly |
| 22:00.36 | sje46 | jelly-home: What does WD stand for? |
| 22:00.36 | Arrowmaster | JohnnyL: what dependency is missing |
| 22:00.51 | pmo_ | sje46, fuser may tell u, what process use it, if any.. |
| 22:01.03 | pmo_ | sje46, Western Digital |
| 22:01.12 | jelly-home | sje46: a hard disk vendor, Western Digital |
| 22:01.24 | JohnnyL | arrowmaster: http://pastie.org/5505203 |
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| 22:01.54 | sje46 | pmo_: fuser had no output at all |
| 22:02.06 | jelly-home | pmo_: it doesn't matter what process uses when the underlying device is gone awol |
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| 22:03.11 | pmo_ | sje46, try delete solution of jelly sounds interesting |
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| 22:03.18 | sje46 | When I did hdpart -z /media/* I got # BLKRRPART failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device |
| 22:03.49 | adiabatic | So I'm computer shopping. What modern graphics card should I get if I want something that'll run gnome3 with all the fancypants possibly-3d graphics, without installing a binary driver? |
| 22:03.52 | pmo_ | sje46, no process, for me it means your block devices are still registered/ in use for the kernel |
| 22:03.52 | jelly-home | sje46: and don't try things people tell you on irc blindly! hdparm is a dangerous tool. |
| 22:04.49 | jelly-home | adiabatic: theoretically, a modern intel cpu with integrated graphics |
| 22:04.50 | gabriel1 | greycat, so... i have to use ubuntu server :(((( ? |
| 22:04.53 | sje46 | jelly-home: did hdparm just break my computer? |
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| 22:05.08 | pmo_ | sje46, jelly is of good advice, and he may have found out a good way to circumvent your issue |
| 22:05.26 | jelly-home | sje46: it didn't because you got the syntax completely wrong |
| 22:05.28 | sje46 | pmo_: well I'm looking in /var/log/dmesg, but have no idea whazt I'm looking for. |
| 22:05.53 | greycat | gabriel1: I guess it depends on how much effort you're willing to put into trying to get the debian installer to run. I can still think of some things to try (removing the video card, getting a second monitor to connect to the mobo card, asking wizards for magic boot parameters)... |
| 22:06.01 | pmo_ | sje46, sda sdb sdc .. what so ever.. every thing like a block device.. like sda sdb sdc etc.. |
| 22:06.02 | adiabatic | jelly-home: Are those at all speedy? Would I be able to play, say, first-person shooters with one of those under the hood? |
| 22:06.13 | Nik05 | and im back, so i just installed libdvdcss in /usr/local but when i check which libs mplayer is using, libdvdcss.so isnt in it |
| 22:06.18 | greycat | gabriel1: ... or, you could install a minimal ubuntu system on a VERY small disk partition, then use that to install Debian on the rest of the disk. |
| 22:06.28 | adiabatic | waves to greycat |
| 22:06.28 | Nik05 | or is some other library using libdvdcss? like libdvdread? |
| 22:06.38 | greycat | hi |
| 22:06.41 | pmo_ | sje46, you may see those things with fdisk -l |
| 22:06.44 | gabriel1 | greycat, can i do that from the live disc? |
| 22:07.01 | sje46 | pmo_: this? http://pastebin.com/JeQ4iuvL |
| 22:07.01 | greycat | I don't know |
| 22:07.19 | Arrowmaster | Nik05: libdvdread and libdvdnav use libdvdcss |
| 22:07.22 | greycat | There are a whole bunch of ways to install Debian and I've not used most of 'em. |
| 22:07.27 | jelly-home | adiabatic: you didn't say anything about fps shooters up to this point. No, they're at best comparable to entry-lower middle level discrete cards |
| 22:07.30 | gabriel1 | greycat, how can i do that from the hdd? |
| 22:07.51 | jelly-home | adiabatic: whether that's enough for a particular game, I cannot say |
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| 22:08.19 | sje46 | fdisk -l: http://pastebin.com/3D9fMuCK |
| 22:08.20 | adiabatic | jelly-home: ah, thanks. Didn't know if adding "and plays games passably well" would reduce the number of workable options to zero… |
| 22:08.25 | Nik05 | Arrowmaster when i use ldd on libdvdread.so and libdvdnav.so, libdvdcss is not on it |
| 22:08.35 | jelly-home | sje46: reboot the machine for a start. Then look at dmesg. Then connect the disk, look at it again, see what was added. Umount all the partitions, unplug it, look at dmesg again for differences |
| 22:08.40 | JohnnyL | screwed |
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| 22:08.57 | pmo_ | sje46, yep, that's people name "partitions" sdb1 sdb2 .. blabla .. and sdb is the block device.. or the device... sounds yours was on scsi / sg2.. i suppose it was plugged or something . (atapi/not sure that stuff still exist) |
| 22:08.59 | greycat | gabriel1: /msg dpkg debootstrap |
| 22:09.05 | greycat | gabriel1: I haven't done it myself though |
| 22:09.24 | sje46 | jelly-home: alright be right back |
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| 22:09.51 | jelly-home | adiabatic: I think nvidia blob is still the only real option for a decent gaming card even on Linux, but I've heard hearsay about radeon nonfree drivers not being as unstable as they used to be, either |
| 22:09.52 | pmo_ | sje46, when you disconnect a device, don't forget to do it properly.. "sync" before, "umount", and then "sync" again, and unplug |
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| 22:10.25 | Arrowmaster | Nik05: you are right, ive got the libdvdcss package installed and see the same but i havent had a chance to test it on this system yet, but the libdvdnav and libdvdread packages have libdvdcss as a suggest |
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| 22:11.08 | jelly-home | pmo_: there is no need to sync after umount (there's no need to sync before, either, it just makes the umount faster); you however forgot to spin down the device before unplugging |
| 22:11.33 | Nik05 | so how does my libdvdcss get loaded? Can i use reverse ldd or something? :p |
| 22:11.37 | jelly-home | pmo_: that's what deleting the device does, with usb or sata. |
| 22:11.52 | Nik05 | sorry for these question, just interesting how this works |
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| 22:13.36 | jelly-home | the sync is only useful if you have no way to tell the device to shut down, thus you sync the useful data in advance, wait a bit and hope its firmware flushes the buffers to the platter, and then unplug it |
| 22:13.42 | pmo_ | jelly-home, i am not always sure "umount" does what it is supposed to, and trying to avoid some "surprise", i prefer to use sync, but that's my choice |
| 22:13.44 | Arrowmaster | Nik05: i honestly have no clue, i just know mplayer2 worked to play (most) dvds on my desktop |
| 22:13.46 | xsappyx | Nik05: apt-rdepends might help you find those |
| 22:13.57 | jelly-home | pmo_: it's cargo cult, not choice |
| 22:14.02 | sje46 | jelly-home: pmo_ I think there may be a bigger problem, because when I try to reboot, the computer takes forever to turn off, and I have to hold down the power button. |
| 22:14.47 | pmo_ | sje46, that sort of behaviour lead to bigger issue generally.. |
| 22:14.52 | jelly-home | sje46: that's because of all the mountpoints hanging off the nonexistent devices, and is really to be expected |
| 22:15.34 | pmo_ | sje46, you should try a poweroff, and see where it stops on screen.. but it may also be due to devices you couldn't umount.. |
| 22:15.39 | jelly-home | sje46: what you can do, is do a SysRq S, U then wait a bit, then B, to reboot it in a slightly cleaner way |
| 22:15.52 | jelly-home | instead of the 4-second poweroff |
| 22:16.12 | pmo_ | sje46, figure out yourself, with a clean system.. reboot, and mount / umount cleanly your devices.. poweroff, should then work properly then |
| 22:16.18 | jelly-home | sje46: /msg dpkg sysrq |
| 22:16.33 | sje46 | Well there is no difference in /var/log/dmesg |
| 22:16.38 | sje46 | Also, too much info at once. |
| 22:16.49 | humbolt | what happens, when I boot a system, which has two identical (cloned) disks in it, which contain RAID autodetect partitions, which of course should have the same id? |
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| 22:17.30 | ambro718 | in which package is the debuild program? |
| 22:17.41 | jelly-home | humbolt: same md raid uuid? |
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| 22:18.11 | jelly-home | humbolt: ask that in #linux-raid channel, see what happens |
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| 22:18.24 | jelly-home | has no idea |
| 22:18.24 | Arrowmaster | ambro718: devscripts |
| 22:18.32 | pmo_ | humbolt, the first to be identified.. i hope / suppose |
| 22:18.34 | ambro718 | Arrowmaster: thanks |
| 22:18.45 | Arrowmaster | ambro718: you can look that kinda stuff up using packages.debian.org |
| 22:19.48 | pmo_ | humbolt, sda |
| 22:19.57 | JohnnyL | oh well |
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| 22:22.07 | pmo_ | i face some odd thing with character pipe.. i have to avoid leave a space between pipe and next character.. like in "unicode" or something there is an invisible character in between, which prevent pipe to be interpreted properly, any idea what's wrong ? |
| 22:22.38 | jelly-home | humbolt: why not try that in a VM and see what happens and give use the answer as well |
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| 22:24.35 | pmo_ | active partition too (fdisk).. or sda (first raid autodetect disc, in alphabetic order).. i think :) would be better unplug the other disk, maybe :) |
| 22:26.39 | jelly-home | it might be better if you stopped making wild-ass guesses and focused on giving help with things you actually have some hands-on experience with |
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| 22:26.59 | pmo_ | JohnnyL, i used to do "apt-get -t unstable install <wathever>" for those issue, but that's not the proper way to do |
| 22:27.35 | JohnnyL | pmo_: yeah that doesn't sound like it should work. |
| 22:28.36 | pmo_ | jelly-home, i use daily mdam, lvm and i tried raid autodetect too.. |
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| 22:30.34 | Nik05 | Arrowmaster libdvdread4 uses dlopen on dvdcss ;) |
| 22:30.43 | Nik05 | ##asm knows everything :P |
| 22:30.46 | pmo_ | JohnnyL, apt-cache showpkg nvidia-glx, may give you some clues.. about dependency |
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| 22:31.56 | pmo_ | jelly-home, well i shouldn't say 'daily', since when setup properly, or the way you want it, it sounds to work quiet fine ;-) :) |
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| 22:32.50 | JohnnyL | pmo_: lots of dependencies. |
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| 22:33.15 | Ir0nman | i have 300GB of data on my dedicated server, Im looking to make a transition to CentOS I am currently running debian. Is there anyway to install CentOS and keep that 300GB of data? |
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| 22:34.26 | pmo_ | Ir0nman, any partition left to install CentOS ? |
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| 22:36.15 | pmo_ | JohnnyL, you have to figure out (looking at dependencies) a way to sort out the issue.. using apt-get install nvidia-glx=<specific release> or something.. that's the way i would do, but i am no expert in debian.. better a word then no answers ;-) :) |
| 22:36.32 | adiabatic | jelly-home: thanks! |
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| 22:37.32 | pmo_ | Ir0nman, any partition left to install CentOS ? |
| 22:37.55 | Ir0nman | I dont remember creating any partitions |
| 22:38.08 | pmo_ | Ir0nman, fdisk -l would tell you |
| 22:38.39 | Ir0nman | also |
| 22:38.40 | Ir0nman | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.40 | Ir0nman | /dev/sda1 * 1 1275 10238976+ 83 Linux |
| 22:38.40 | Ir0nman | /dev/sda2 1275 121536 965994496 83 Linux |
| 22:38.40 | Ir0nman | /dev/sda3 121536 121601 523264 82 Linux swap / Solaris |
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| 22:38.57 | Ir0nman | sorry |
| 22:39.27 | JohnnyL | pmo_: i did not install the nvidia drivers with apt-get. |
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| 22:40.38 | pmo_ | Ir0nman, if you post df on pastebin, would it show /dev/sda1 as root partition ? |
| 22:41.24 | secher | exit |
| 22:41.31 | Ir0nman | yes sda1 = root |
| 22:42.13 | pmo_ | Ir0nman, hence your data is mounted on a specific partition ? |
| 22:42.34 | jelly-home | !tell JohnnyL about bat |
| 22:42.53 | Ir0nman | my server is kimsufi however they set it up |
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| 22:43.44 | JohnnyL | pmo_: http://pastie.org/5508598 |
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| 22:45.25 | jhutchins_wk | Ir0nman: Install Centos, restore data from backup. |
| 22:45.51 | Ir0nman | i have to physically backup the data off the server? |
| 22:46.04 | jhutchins_wk | Ir0nman: Why the change? I manage both and like Debian better personally. |
| 22:46.12 | jhutchins_wk | Ir0nman: You have to do that anyway. |
| 22:46.48 | pmo_ | Ir0nman, no, but you'll have to very cautious.. Centos install on /dev/sda1 and not /dev/sda2 otherwise you would loose all your data, if you didn't / couldn't backup |
| 22:47.06 | jhutchins_wk | pmo_: Yeah, and one mistake and he doesn't have his data at all. |
| 22:47.11 | jhutchins_wk | Ir0nman: Trust me, back it up. |
| 22:47.17 | cusco | I have a KS too, with debian |
| 22:47.21 | cusco | I'm happy with it |
| 22:47.23 | Ir0nman | im having a really hard time with debian + wordpress |
| 22:47.24 | pmo_ | JohnnyL, dont know what to tell you.. sorry :) |
| 22:47.52 | JohnnyL | pmo_: thanks anyway. |
| 22:48.16 | Ir0nman | maybe you can help me with getting wordpress running |
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| 22:48.22 | kbar | wavey: why are u pm'ing me |
| 22:48.37 | jhutchins_wk | Ir0nman: Sorry, one problem per customer per session. |
| 22:48.39 | nkuttler | Ir0nman: #wordpress can help you with that. or do you have a more specific question? |
| 22:49.05 | jhutchins_wk | Ir0nman: Oh, wait, you mean that's why you're looking at CentOS, to get wordpress running? |
| 22:49.10 | pmo_ | jhutchins_wk, you can do both.. the safe way is to back up.. the other 'dangerous', is to force install on /dev/sda1.. if you can't back it up.. but be very cautious.. better ask centos people for this |
| 22:49.26 | Ir0nman | yes jhutchins_wk |
| 22:49.43 | jhutchins_wk | Ir0nman: aptitude install wordpress? |
| 22:49.57 | nkuttler | Ir0nman: wp will run on debian just fine. no need to switch to a different os |
| 22:49.57 | Ir0nman | i installed wordpress manually extracted it to /var/www/blog |
| 22:50.09 | pmo_ | jhutchins_wk, sorry was for Ir0nman |
| 22:50.24 | jhutchins_wk | Ir0nman: Try it with the Debian packages first, see how they do it (it just works). |
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| 22:51.32 | Ir0nman | where does it install too |
| 22:51.53 | nkuttler | Ir0nman: dpkg -L <package>, /usr/share/doc/<package> |
| 22:51.56 | jhutchins_wk | Ir0nman: I find that with packages like that it's good to see how Debian sets them up, but fine to then set them up yourself directly from the package supplier. |
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| 22:53.20 | jhutchins_wk | Ir0nman: Traditionally you would put something like that in or under /var/www/html/ - but Debian allows a much more flexible structure, and a lot of packages now install into /usr or something. |
| 22:53.36 | Ir0nman | yes it installs to usr/share |
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| 22:55.05 | jhutchins_wk | Ir0nman: Right, then you point the basedir to it with a file in /etc/apache/modules-available and /etc/apache/sites-available, then link those to *-active using |
| 22:55.19 | jhutchins_wk | ...whatever those enable commands are... |
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| 22:55.41 | Ir0nman | i always get Error 324 (net::ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE): The server closed the connection without sending any data |
| 22:55.48 | jhutchins_wk | Ir0nman: Read the readme files, especially README.Debian, read the include.php notes, off you go. |
| 22:56.01 | jhutchins_wk | Ir0nman: You need to set up the database as well. |
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| 22:56.44 | jhutchins_wk | Ir0nman: Wordpress instructions are excellent, but you actually have to follow them step-by-step. Took me like fifteen minutes to set wordpress up for my wife on an existing server. |
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| 22:57.12 | damacus | a2ensite and a2dissite |
| 22:57.29 | damacus | there are also a2{en,dis}mod |
| 22:57.32 | Devastator | ,pciid 10ec:8169 |
| 22:57.33 | judd | [10ec:8169] is 'RTL8169 PCI Gigabit Ethernet Controller' from 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with kernel module 'r8169' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10ec:8169 |
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| 22:57.41 | jhutchins_wk | Ooh, look at the pretty clock almost at 5:00. L8rs. Ir0nman I'll check back in later/tomorrow, good luck. |
| 22:57.48 | damacus | lol |
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| 22:59.14 | JohnnyL | jhutchins_wk: old school FTW! |
| 22:59.50 | pmo_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:04.50 | confusid | Is there a way to list all items included in the c library? ie.. all the #include <stdio.h... etc...> |
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| 23:05.50 | JohnnyL | is ftp://download.xs4all.nl/pub/mirror/debian/ a secure source list for apt-gets? |
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| 23:09.14 | Nik05 | JohnnyL it is a isp in the netherlands |
| 23:09.30 | Nik05 | check on debian site if its on there |
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| 23:14.30 | JohnnyL | Nik05: i don't see an official list there. only unoffical |
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| 23:18.53 | abrotman | JohnnyL: debian.org/mirrors/list |
| 23:19.03 | cusco | echo -e "173.252.101.16\twww.facebook.com" >> /etc/hosts - it works now |
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| 23:19.43 | abrotman | that seems like a horrible idea .. |
| 23:20.55 | Nik05 | you can better do 127.0.0.1 ww.facebook.com ;) |
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| 23:24.22 | TIBS02 | http://www.facebook.com |
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| 23:24.48 | TIBS02 | i think facebook is down |
| 23:24.54 | abrotman | TIBS02: this is #debian? |
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| 23:25.13 | TIBS02 | yeah i didnt mean to paste it |
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| 23:27.22 | habstinat | I've been trying to set up a webserver in my Debian Wheezy installation but I've hit a roadblock. So far I've followed the instructions at <http://www.debianadmin.com/debian-mail-server-setup-with-postfix-dovecot-sasl-squirrel-mail.html> pretty much word for word to the end, but now when I try to go to <mydomain>/squirrelmail and login (as any user), I just get " ERROR: Connection dropped by IMAP server. |
| 23:28.05 | habstinat | The problem is that I'm not sure how to go about debugging this; can someone give me pointers or commands (or suggestions) to point me in the right direction? |
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| 23:29.48 | abrotman | does your regular imap lcient work? |
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| 23:41.01 | jelly-home | "I've followed these instructions blindly and if anything, I mean ANYTHING goes slightly wrong, they don't tell me what to do!" |
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| 23:41.57 | diniwed1 | I have installed a couple of things from the squeeze backports repository. Now I'm planning to do a dist-upgrade to wheezy. Common sense would suggest I comment out (or delete) the squeeze backports entries in apt/sources.list prior to running dist-upgrade. Can anyone confirm..? |
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| 23:43.50 | Brigo | diniwed1: i think there is no problem there. |
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| 23:45.11 | habstinat | abrotman: No, I don't believe it does. I tried in Icedove (Thunderbird) to enter in <user>@<domain> for the email address, but it autodetected gandi.net email (which is how I registered the domain name), and if I try to change "incoming" to "IMAP" Server Hostname:"<my domain>" Port:"Auto" SSL:"Autodetect" Authentication:"Autodetect" I get "Icedove failed to find the settings for your email account." |
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| 23:48.10 | pmo_ | Brigo, so far i live with a mix of unstable / stable, as things are moving forward towards wheezy what would you suggest me to do ? |
| 23:48.32 | abrotman | habstinat: so squirrelmail has nothing to do with it |
| 23:49.04 | Ir0nman | pmo_ after installing wordpress I am getting error 324 on http |
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| 23:50.23 | diniwed1 | Brigo: thanks, mate.. I supposed I could remove those packages that are marked "bpo-something" before running the d-u.. there are only two.. but the the trouble is that one of them is the linux kernel.. I guess I'll remove it stick it back in if I have a problem.. Working on a clone, hehe.. |
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| 23:50.55 | Brigo | pmo_: that is a difficult decission, unstable is a problem .. |
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| 23:51.15 | diniwed1 | All the same.. it's rather odd that the debian backports guide does not say anything about this.. or maybe they don't because it doesn't matter anyways.. :-) |
| 23:51.24 | pmo_ | Ir0nman, i never used wordpress.. error 324 seems to mean "empty reponse".. maybe browser don't point where it should 'http', but sincerely i dont know |
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| 23:52.00 | habstinat | abrotman: OK; so how can I debug my IMAP server then? |
| 23:52.17 | Brigo | diniwed1: the backport should be a package from whezzy so there shouldo not be problems in wheezy. |
| 23:52.19 | Ir0nman | i have a file in /var/www/ that i can view perfect a test PHP file |
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| 23:52.35 | Ir0nman | i copy the same file to /var/www/blog/test.php and I can not view it |
| 23:52.47 | Ir0nman | error 500 |
| 23:52.49 | pmo_ | Brigo, maybe preferences will handle the issue gracefully.. moving towards wheezy (stable) if needs be ;-) :) |
| 23:53.08 | Nik05 | ironman check logs |
| 23:54.02 | Brigo | habstinat: http://workaround.org/ |
| 23:54.38 | diniwed1 | Brigo: that's what I meant by "common sense suggests" in my first message.. Unless the current wheezy package is newer than the one I grabbed from backports a year or so ago.. I guess.. |
| 23:54.45 | Brigo | pmo_: yes, but remember, unstables has a unestability problem :-) |
| 23:55.27 | Brigo | diniwed1: do you want to not upgrade the package? |
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| 23:58.20 | Ir0nman | Here is my logs |
| 23:58.23 | Ir0nman | http://pastebin.com/FHhSz7ug |
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