| 00:01.04 | Arrowmaster | phogg: i decided i could start calling myself an expert when i broke libc6 and fixed it without having to use a rescue cd |
| 00:01.31 | phogg | Arrowmaster: heh |
| 00:01.40 | Arrowmaster | was mostly pure fucking luck though |
| 00:02.05 | *** join/#debian iPcjamesy4 (~James@unaffiliated/pcjamesy) |
| 00:02.07 | *** join/#debian s98259 (~s98259@vpn.kottnet.eu) |
| 00:02.25 | *** join/#debian oy-tablet (~oy@g225208174.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 00:02.42 | Arrowmaster | that i had enough things already running that i could download the libc6 deb, extract its contents, and put libc6 in /usr/local long enough to reinstall it properly with dpkg |
| 00:02.47 | s98259 | wpa_passphrase is only accepting 63 digit keys maximum. I have a 64 digit key. |
| 00:02.51 | *** join/#debian rodrigods (~rodrigods@unaffiliated/rodrigods) |
| 00:02.57 | *** join/#debian jsec (~jsec@affiliated/pdpc.active.jsec) |
| 00:02.58 | phogg | Arrowmaster: I think I decided I was an expert when I start from an initrd and no disks detected and ended with a successful boot from md0 |
| 00:03.19 | s98259 | Do I need to use wpa_passphrase or could I just put the wifi key straight into /etc/wpa_supplicant? |
| 00:03.28 | Arrowmaster | s98259: if you have a 64 digit key then its probably in hex form and not a passphrase |
| 00:03.35 | *** join/#debian vivid (~ViViD@c-76-104-215-159.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 00:03.36 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1244] by debhelper |
| 00:03.59 | s98259 | :/ |
| 00:04.07 | s98259 | Arrowmaster: I want to use it with wpa_supplicant. |
| 00:04.13 | phogg | s98259: and you can |
| 00:04.17 | *** join/#debian chucky (~chucky@net-93-144-206-55.cust.dsl.teletu.it) |
| 00:04.18 | s98259 | good |
| 00:05.06 | *** join/#debian iorivur (~quassel@133.51.105.190) |
| 00:05.36 | *** join/#debian mandragor (~vn@2a02:2728:1:202:b6b5:2fff:fe32:ee81) |
| 00:05.38 | phogg | s98259: example: in my network block in wpa_supplicant.conf I have a line reading "psk=blahblah" where blahblah is an unquoted 64char string. |
| 00:05.44 | *** join/#debian LaptopBrain (~brain@cpc2-mfld3-0-0-cust139.13-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 00:05.47 | *** join/#debian imunsie (~imunsie@ibmaus65.lnk.telstra.net) |
| 00:06.08 | s98259 | RIght. |
| 00:06.14 | phogg | s98259: a quoted string would be the passphrase, unquoted is raw |
| 00:06.25 | s98259 | okis. :3 |
| 00:07.12 | *** join/#debian sivoais (~zaki@199.19.225.239) |
| 00:07.57 | *** join/#debian comradekingu (~comradeki@188.113.116.150) |
| 00:08.12 | s98259 | pre-up wpa_supplicant -Bw -Dwext -iwlan0 /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf would go into /etc/network/interfaces, right, phogg? |
| 00:08.55 | *** join/#debian _Qman (~Qman@109.88.1.44) |
| 00:09.30 | *** join/#debian glebihan (~glebihan@unaffiliated/glebihan) |
| 00:10.22 | *** join/#debian tspxx (~tspx@i577BD0D8.versanet.de) |
| 00:10.51 | *** join/#debian k1ng (~k1ng@unaffiliated/k1ng) |
| 00:11.44 | diverdude | How do i find uuid for a disk to put inside fstab? |
| 00:12.18 | themill | blkid |
| 00:13.17 | *** join/#debian jehan (~jehan@kiel4-dmz.gis.de) |
| 00:13.36 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1238] by debhelper |
| 00:13.42 | somiaj | diverdude: you can also look at the links in ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid |
| 00:15.13 | themill | dpkg: tell diverdude about cross-post |
| 00:16.16 | *** part/#debian raboof (arnouten@pdpc/supporter/professional/raboof) |
| 00:16.39 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben@230.102.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz) |
| 00:17.47 | diverdude | thx |
| 00:18.12 | *** join/#debian Milos|Netbook (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) |
| 00:21.49 | *** join/#debian esaym153 (~esaym153@216-45-91-132.gvec.net) |
| 00:28.19 | *** join/#debian cmorck (~cmorck@208.59.72.176) |
| 00:29.03 | *** join/#debian sudoecho (~ghostitw@unaffiliated/sudoecho) |
| 00:29.30 | *** join/#debian userZ (~userZ@cpe-107-015-117-076.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 00:29.53 | *** join/#debian matkap__ (~ali@85.99.217.62) |
| 00:30.13 | *** join/#debian cyberpsi (cyberpsi@177.40.252.88) |
| 00:30.44 | *** join/#debian larks (~larks@99-22-170-168.lightspeed.chrlnc.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:32.22 | *** join/#debian rypervenche (~rypervenc@unaffiliated/rypervenche) |
| 00:32.35 | *** join/#debian cakehero (~cakehero@cpe-66-65-190-139.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 00:33.04 | *** join/#debian noahfx (~noahfx@200.49.190.107) |
| 00:33.23 | *** join/#debian iViLe (~bob@c211-28-198-161.chirn2.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 00:34.00 | *** join/#debian LaptopBrain (~brain@cpc2-mfld3-0-0-cust139.13-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 00:34.13 | *** join/#debian yogurt2ungue (~yogurt2un@118-194-245-190.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 00:35.21 | chrisirc | Is there a multi-line but non-fullscreen console based editor? |
| 00:35.38 | *** join/#debian gsmer (~gsmer@31.9.106.168) |
| 00:35.54 | chrisirc | As in: rlwrap is a one-line editor. vi is a multi-line editor but claims the whole console. |
| 00:36.10 | chrisirc | Also, I'd like it to act as a stdin filter like rlwrap. |
| 00:37.06 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@178.16.15.193) |
| 00:37.32 | *** join/#debian Guest53206 (~chatzilla@ool-457ac90a.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 00:37.40 | Guest53206 | Why am i getting command not found? |
| 00:37.57 | chrisirc | i.e. let me edit a line, hitting enter moves the screen up one line and lets me edit another line, then hitting cursor up or ctl-p or k or whatever will move the cursor up to the previous line, I change something there, then in the end I enter ctl-d. |
| 00:38.04 | Guest53206 | I downloaded firefox and it's X X X and it's not found |
| 00:38.10 | chrisirc | At which point everything is sent to stdout. |
| 00:38.33 | reddolf | Guest53206 install Iceweasel through the package manager. |
| 00:38.40 | themill | Guest53206: (a) aptitude install iceweasel works just fine (b) did you install it in the path? (c) hash -r |
| 00:38.51 | *** part/#debian getxsick (xsx@unaffiliated/getxsick) |
| 00:39.34 | pfred1 | Guest53206 did you install firefox? |
| 00:40.29 | pfred1 | last version of firefox I built segfaulted on me |
| 00:40.51 | pfred1 | was a nightly though |
| 00:40.58 | dondelelcaro | chrisirc: you mean a stream editor? you're going to have a bit of a problem with stdout, though. |
| 00:43.07 | chrisirc | dondelelcaro, what is a stream editor? I understood that sed is one and that this just allows me to alter a stream programmatically, not interactively? |
| 00:43.13 | *** join/#debian valeriusN (~quassel@85.26.180.154) |
| 00:44.29 | chrisirc | I don't want to alter an existing text delivered on stdin to stdout, but instead, use stdin as interactive control input, deliver the end result on stdout. |
| 00:44.54 | JohnnyL | why can't i run programs |
| 00:44.58 | JohnnyL | what's a good shell? |
| 00:45.30 | chrisirc | Also, this doesn't work on streams really: this thing won't be able to stream anthing to the stdout until I'm done editing, as I might change any part of the (mini) document. |
| 00:45.43 | *** join/#debian msantana (~darkstar@unaffiliated/darkstar) |
| 00:45.44 | dondelelcaro | chrisirc: ok, but it's still not clear to me how you expect to interactively edit stdout without seeing the output... |
| 00:45.54 | chrisirc | On the tty. |
| 00:45.59 | chrisirc | Just like rlwrap does. |
| 00:46.12 | *** join/#debian glebihan (~glebihan@unaffiliated/glebihan) |
| 00:46.22 | chrisirc | That editor will have open two output filehandles: stdout, and the tty. |
| 00:46.55 | chrisirc | On the tty it will echo the entered text and issue other console scroll etc sequences. |
| 00:46.56 | JohnnyL | bash: ./firefox: no such file or directory |
| 00:46.59 | *** join/#debian tensorpu1ding (~tensorpud@99.102.69.147) |
| 00:47.02 | JohnnyL | why the hell |
| 00:47.04 | JohnnyL | is it doing this? |
| 00:47.42 | dondelelcaro | chrisirc: ah, right; yeah, I'm not familiar with something that does that... though it probably does exist somewhere. You might even be able to get ed to do that. |
| 00:47.58 | chrisirc | On stdout it will never write anything till I'm done and closed the editor's stdin using ctl-d (or perhaps some editor command), then write the in-memory doc contents to the stdout filehandle. |
| 00:49.34 | chrisirc | The idea is to use it like: "editwrap sendmail -t" or similar. |
| 00:49.54 | chrisirc | Ehr, actually, "editwrap | sendmail -t" as I described it. |
| 00:50.08 | chrisirc | Whatever, could be made both ways. |
| 00:50.46 | chrisirc | But yeah, writing this I now realize that rlwrap can actually just use stdout for the control sequences, no need to open the tty. |
| 00:52.15 | *** part/#debian JohnnyL (~chatzilla@ool-457ac90a.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 00:52.21 | chrisirc | I want to use it like: "editwrap sendsms --to somenumber" (where sendsms is a script that takes the msg from stdin). |
| 00:52.38 | *** join/#debian KeatonT (~textual@unaffiliated/keatont) |
| 00:52.59 | *** join/#debian firecode (~irc@unaffiliated/firecode) |
| 00:53.13 | *** join/#debian s98259 (~s98259@vpn.kottnet.eu) |
| 00:53.16 | s98259 | :/ |
| 00:53.39 | s98259 | Is there any way of getting multipul access points in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 00:53.42 | *** join/#debian s0urd (~Rabia@pool-98-111-54-40.sctnpa.east.verizon.net) |
| 00:55.23 | chrisirc | s98259, you need to be more specific. Do you want to connect to multiple access points at the same time? Do you want to make the computer connect automatically to one of several? |
| 00:55.46 | chrisirc | In any case my answer will be to use network manager, though. |
| 00:56.04 | s98259 | chrisirc: auto connect to one of several. |
| 00:56.05 | chrisirc | I've given up using network/interfaces for wifi. |
| 00:56.07 | *** join/#debian chatsiri_ (~chatsiri_@ppp-115-87-35-191.revip4.asianet.co.th) |
| 00:56.18 | s98259 | it's just... |
| 00:56.44 | s98259 | wpa_supplicant I can't seem to get it to work as I'm not understanding it's problems it's giving me. |
| 00:56.46 | chrisirc | I used wpa-supplicant for that in the past. |
| 00:56.47 | *** join/#debian user485763 (~aoeu@220.90.190.114) |
| 00:57.20 | Arrowmaster | yeah i just gave up and started using network manager too |
| 00:57.24 | *** join/#debian Esa_ (~esa.syt@108-250-33-79.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:57.36 | s98259 | Arrowmaster: I have NetworkManager already. |
| 00:57.46 | s98259 | that's /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:57.54 | s98259 | the networking service |
| 00:57.55 | s98259 | lol |
| 00:58.42 | chrisirc | Hm, I'm using network manager but there is no mention of it in interfaces. |
| 00:58.47 | chrisirc | Not sure what you're talking about. |
| 00:58.52 | s98259 | ... |
| 00:59.07 | s98259 | chrisirc: NetworkManager starts at bootup. |
| 00:59.23 | s98259 | It's the networking service and /etc/network/interfaces is part of it. lol |
| 00:59.28 | drumr | what are thoughts about using debian as a server and using ubuntu or mint as a dekstop |
| 00:59.34 | chrisirc | s98259, lol |
| 00:59.38 | s98259 | ? |
| 00:59.38 | drumr | i would assume debian is ok as a desktop |
| 00:59.39 | chrisirc | Why do you say lol. |
| 01:00.05 | reddolf | Ubuntu is useless. |
| 01:00.11 | s98259 | Cause you're talking about using NetworkManager instead of interfaces but they're both the same thing. lol |
| 01:00.20 | reddolf | chrisirc what's the difficulty you're having with wpa_supplicant? |
| 01:00.41 | s98259 | reddolf: It's me that's having the difficulty. |
| 01:00.45 | chrisirc | Hu, I don't. |
| 01:00.49 | reddolf | They're not the same thing. |
| 01:00.52 | reddolf | What is it? |
| 01:01.31 | chrisirc | Yep, they are not the same thing. |
| 01:01.42 | chrisirc | interfaces existed a long time before network manager was started. |
| 01:01.43 | *** join/#debian Jdbye|Laptop (~furry4lif@ti0010a380-dhcp1283.bb.online.no) |
| 01:02.08 | chrisirc | interfaces is for manual configuration. network manager has its own config files, and I'm not sure it cares about interfaces at all. |
| 01:02.28 | s98259 | wpa_supplicant? Thanks a lot for giving me different errors this time. :/ |
| 01:02.36 | chrisirc | And, "its own config files" is probably wrong, they are not meant for manual editing but for setup through the gui. |
| 01:02.54 | s98259 | probs cause I'm connected to wifi via /etc/interfaces/network or whatever |
| 01:03.16 | *** join/#debian LVLAaron (~Aaron@74-130-129-158.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 01:03.24 | LVLAaron | How do I switch from stable to testing? |
| 01:03.26 | reddolf | post your /etc/network/interfaces file at codepad.org |
| 01:03.34 | reddolf | and post /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf too |
| 01:03.35 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1232] by debhelper |
| 01:03.37 | *** join/#debian rypervenche (~rypervenc@unaffiliated/rypervenche) |
| 01:03.45 | reddolf | erase the passwords |
| 01:04.19 | reddolf | interfaces is not for manual configuration... quite the opposite |
| 01:04.23 | gnarface | why on earth use codepad when it has a banner? use paste.debian.net; no ads. |
| 01:04.24 | *** join/#debian philipballew (~philip.ba@ubuntu/member/philipballew) |
| 01:04.32 | reddolf | for manual configuration you use ifconfig/ip/iwconfig/iw etc |
| 01:04.35 | *** join/#debian iorivur (~quassel@2001:200:0:7c03:21f:e1ff:fec9:d838) |
| 01:04.37 | reddolf | route.. |
| 01:04.46 | chrisirc | reddolf, manual as in edit this file manually. |
| 01:04.52 | reddolf | didn't know it had a banner |
| 01:05.03 | reddolf | I use an ad blocker |
| 01:06.51 | *** join/#debian glebihan (~glebihan@unaffiliated/glebihan) |
| 01:07.12 | *** join/#debian jasonwert (~w3rt@96-42-148-132.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) |
| 01:07.38 | *** join/#debian ratcheer (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/ratcheer) |
| 01:08.30 | *** join/#debian rryoumaa (~user@ip68-226-110-213.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 01:08.31 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben@230.102.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz) |
| 01:10.26 | *** join/#debian s98259 (~s98259@vpn.kottnet.eu) |
| 01:10.41 | *** join/#debian _Qman (~Qman@109.88.1.44) |
| 01:10.41 | s98259 | Whyy does my wlan0 keep dropping? |
| 01:10.56 | s98259 | I have to restart the damn networking service everytime it does that. |
| 01:11.14 | s98259 | I need a better solution of connecting to wifi. Please can you recommend me one? |
| 01:11.24 | gnarface | s98259: just stop using your microwave while you're downloading stuff |
| 01:11.35 | *** join/#debian blink___3 (~blink@117.200.184.174) |
| 01:11.39 | s98259 | ... |
| 01:11.49 | s98259 | gnarface: I'm not downloading. |
| 01:11.57 | s98259 | wait, microwave? |
| 01:12.05 | s98259 | it's 1 in the morning? |
| 01:12.27 | gnarface | burritos know no schedules |
| 01:12.37 | *** join/#debian blink___3 (~blink@117.200.184.174) |
| 01:13.39 | Arrowmaster | mine kept dropping to but seemed to have stopped when i switched to network manager |
| 01:13.39 | s98259 | brb |
| 01:13.40 | *** join/#debian NiLoni (nilon@unaffiliated/nilon) |
| 01:13.55 | *** join/#debian Harpoon__ (marcin@lagoon.freebsd.lublin.pl) |
| 01:14.37 | *** part/#debian kern (~blink@117.200.184.174) |
| 01:15.00 | *** join/#debian tensorpudding (~tensorpud@108.87.22.198) |
| 01:15.14 | *** join/#debian KeatonT (~textual@unaffiliated/keatont) |
| 01:15.22 | *** join/#debian ohcibi_ (~ohcibi@2a01:4f8:140:41e1::4) |
| 01:15.24 | *** join/#debian Sjors_ (~sgielen@foo.kassala.de) |
| 01:15.29 | *** join/#debian ht (~totte@unaffiliated/totte) |
| 01:15.45 | *** join/#debian Zambezi_ (Zulu@bnc.fran.dotbnc.se) |
| 01:15.49 | *** join/#debian gr8ron (~tero@h-62-142-157-57.joensuunelli.fi) |
| 01:15.54 | *** join/#debian jthomas__ (~jthomas@nat.sierrabravo.net) |
| 01:16.31 | *** join/#debian moreira (~naomoreir@bl15-200-179.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 01:17.21 | *** join/#debian dupondje_ (~dupondje@artemis.dupie.be) |
| 01:17.21 | *** join/#debian nick_h_ (~nick@li46-53.members.linode.com) |
| 01:17.26 | *** join/#debian cbmuser_ (~glaubitz@squeeze64.physik.fu-berlin.de) |
| 01:17.37 | *** join/#debian belak51 (~belak@psg.mtu.edu) |
| 01:17.37 | *** join/#debian belak51 (~belak@encoded/developer/belak) |
| 01:17.43 | *** join/#debian Ticho_ (~Ticho@unaffiliated/ticho) |
| 01:17.52 | *** join/#debian wols (~klingens@p5B21DD90.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:17.56 | *** join/#debian MoDaX (~ith@84.240.22.131) |
| 01:17.56 | *** join/#debian d1b_ (~db@d1b.org) |
| 01:18.00 | *** join/#debian rozie_ (~rozie@ircer.ghostkeeper.mooo.com) |
| 01:18.02 | *** join/#debian dagerik_ (dageriv@lynx.stud.ntnu.no) |
| 01:18.02 | *** join/#debian dimir_ (~dimir@dimir.eu) |
| 01:18.22 | *** join/#debian Katafalkas (~Katafalka@78.60.170.249) |
| 01:18.22 | *** join/#debian Fli-c (~c@133.110.188.90.etth.tomsknet.ru) |
| 01:18.22 | *** join/#debian HeXiLeD (~L3D@69.196.165.41) |
| 01:18.22 | *** join/#debian HeXiLeD (~L3D@unaffiliated/hexiled) |
| 01:18.37 | *** join/#debian darkrow (~darkrow-f@static.184.105.40.188.clients.your-server.de) |
| 01:18.44 | *** join/#debian Darkclown (~darkclown@163.215.189.72) |
| 01:18.45 | *** join/#debian mwargh (~sistemshi@178.132.204.156) |
| 01:18.52 | *** join/#debian obli-AWAY (~abyss1@62.27.85.48) |
| 01:18.57 | *** join/#debian s98259 (~s98259@vpn.kottnet.eu) |
| 01:19.02 | s98259 | :3 |
| 01:19.02 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@c-98-210-252-110.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 01:19.11 | s98259 | So it should stop dropping now? |
| 01:21.17 | *** join/#debian mrkurtz (mrkurtz@cpe-76-183-115-158.tx.res.rr.com) |
| 01:21.42 | *** join/#debian dvs (~colin@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 01:23.36 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1222] by debhelper |
| 01:23.42 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@16-74-245-190.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 01:25.02 | *** join/#debian Vasistha (~david@unaffiliated/vasistha) |
| 01:25.26 | *** join/#debian mr0wl (~quassel@unaffiliated/mr0wl) |
| 01:26.08 | Vasistha | MrFrood: "shutdown -p now" wouldn't run, just gave me a usage message. "shutdown -hP now" had the same result: INIT: no more processes... |
| 01:26.52 | *** join/#debian Jswing (~jswing@164.87.2.93.rev.sfr.net) |
| 01:26.59 | MrFrood | Vasistha: have you played with your bios settings recently? |
| 01:27.01 | Vasistha | little offtopic but any recommended irc app for android, so I can stay logged in here while testing power cycles on the lappy? |
| 01:27.25 | Vasistha | MrFrood: no ... although it did get reset once when the battery ran down, I suppose that might very well be it! |
| 01:27.41 | Vasistha | I'd better look into that, I bet that's it |
| 01:28.38 | *** join/#debian tlund (~tlund@envy.nxs.se) |
| 01:29.09 | *** join/#debian cali (~cali@unaffiliated/cali) |
| 01:29.54 | *** join/#debian stonerfish (~stonerfis@cpe-66-74-177-116.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 01:30.46 | Vasistha | MrFrood: also just discovered this, which looks like a good resource: http://linux.koolsolutions.com/2009/08/04/howto-fix-linux-hangfreeze-during-reboots-and-restarts/ |
| 01:31.06 | MrFrood | ok |
| 01:31.17 | *** join/#debian tjiggi_fo (~grumpy@c-50-138-47-168.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 01:31.42 | *** join/#debian barfod (~haylo@unaffiliated/barfod) |
| 01:31.47 | *** join/#debian microcosm (~microcosm@180.143.238.28) |
| 01:33.11 | rryoumaa | !hangfreeze |
| 01:33.36 | s98259 | rryoumaa: hide my ass |
| 01:34.15 | rryoumaa | ? |
| 01:34.41 | *** part/#debian ratcheer (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/ratcheer) |
| 01:35.10 | *** join/#debian Kaede (~Kaede@unaffiliated/kaede) |
| 01:35.27 | *** join/#debian dvs (~Colin@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 01:37.32 | *** join/#debian niftylettuce_ (uid2733@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fpiobvrnrpshygaq) |
| 01:37.53 | *** join/#debian iorivur (~quassel@133.51.104.200) |
| 01:39.10 | *** join/#debian Albastos|off (Ours@is.sooo.phreakocio.us) |
| 01:42.18 | *** join/#debian Shoya (~Shoya@201.227.105.6) |
| 01:50.54 | *** join/#debian clefebvre (~clem@178.167.237.53.threembb.ie) |
| 01:51.20 | *** join/#debian gsmer (~gsmer@31.9.106.168) |
| 01:51.26 | *** join/#debian dreamon_ (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 01:52.08 | *** join/#debian geeksir (~geeksir@218.5.46.150) |
| 01:52.26 | *** join/#debian tm (~tm@2a03:2900:2:1::b8) |
| 01:53.39 | *** join/#debian iorivur (~quassel@2001:200:0:7c03:21f:e1ff:fec9:d838) |
| 01:54.11 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben@230.102.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz) |
| 01:57.24 | *** part/#debian geeksir (~geeksir@218.5.46.150) |
| 01:59.01 | *** join/#debian Justasic2 (~Justasic@75-175-49-240.ptld.qwest.net) |
| 02:00.23 | *** join/#debian bob_p (~robertpie@c-67-160-200-234.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 02:01.45 | *** join/#debian Justasic (~Justasic@unaffiliated/justasic) |
| 02:02.54 | *** join/#debian KiSM (~KiSM@CPE-121-221-34-211.lns3.wel.bigpond.net.au) |
| 02:03.25 | *** join/#debian oy-tablet (~oy@g225208174.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 02:03.52 | *** join/#debian Walzmyn (~quassel@50.96.92.54) |
| 02:04.42 | *** join/#debian Mayumi (~ircuser@unaffiliated/mayumi) |
| 02:04.50 | Mayumi | konbonwaaaaa |
| 02:05.50 | *** join/#debian valeriusN (~quassel@85.26.180.154) |
| 02:06.27 | *** join/#debian clefebvre (~clem@178.167.237.53.threembb.ie) |
| 02:07.28 | *** join/#debian Justasic2 (~Justasic@75-175-61-205.ptld.qwest.net) |
| 02:10.24 | *** join/#debian Justasic (~Justasic@unaffiliated/justasic) |
| 02:13.47 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc1-nott14-2-0-cust345.12-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 02:13.55 | *** join/#debian reddolf (~reddolf@177.18.152.39) |
| 02:16.06 | *** join/#debian kermit (~zip55413@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) |
| 02:16.46 | *** join/#debian dagerik (dageriv@unaffiliated/dagerik) |
| 02:17.04 | *** join/#debian chatsiri_ (~chatsiri_@kuwin-132-199.kuwin.ku.ac.th) |
| 02:17.05 | *** part/#debian dagerik (dageriv@unaffiliated/dagerik) |
| 02:18.07 | *** join/#debian reddolf (~reddolf@177.18.152.39) |
| 02:18.19 | *** join/#debian mavhc (~mavhc@cpc3-basf10-2-0-cust617.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 02:18.27 | *** join/#debian Tux (~tux@tropicalwikis/Frozen-Wind) |
| 02:20.17 | *** join/#debian shengyao (~shengyao@2001:5c0:1000:a::9ad) |
| 02:20.25 | *** join/#debian wols_ (~klingens@p5B21C9E8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:23.18 | *** join/#debian rryoumaa (~user@ip68-226-110-213.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 02:26.28 | *** join/#debian Jdbye|Laptop (~furry4lif@ti0010a380-dhcp1283.bb.online.no) |
| 02:27.48 | *** join/#debian Mitts (~timo@MEN-AI2-141-039.wcta.net) |
| 02:28.21 | *** join/#debian khimera (~khimera@pool-173-68-181-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 02:28.35 | *** join/#debian raikd (~rai@203.197.151.138) |
| 02:28.56 | *** join/#debian monkeyhybrid (~monkeyhyb@unaffiliated/monkeyhybrid) |
| 02:29.10 | *** join/#debian KeatonT (~textual@unaffiliated/keatont) |
| 02:30.33 | *** part/#debian raikd (~rai@203.197.151.138) |
| 02:30.48 | *** join/#debian blackest_mamba (~blackest_@98.158.125.38) |
| 02:32.47 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc1-nott14-2-0-cust345.12-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 02:33.46 | *** join/#debian pawelkrzywicki (~quassel@cpc13-rdng22-2-0-cust144.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 02:34.20 | *** join/#debian dvs (~Colin@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 02:35.01 | *** join/#debian Goggy (~Goggy@c-82-150-208-67.dsl.hotze.com) |
| 02:38.29 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~thunderrd@119.42.94.26) |
| 02:39.33 | *** join/#debian aidalgol (~user@114-134-9-191.rurallink.co.nz) |
| 02:39.54 | *** join/#debian r1PPer (~1@79.133.68.248) |
| 02:40.08 | *** part/#debian aidalgol (~user@114-134-9-191.rurallink.co.nz) |
| 02:43.07 | *** join/#debian bw123 (~chatzilla@host-66-85-227-247.APIOLT1.epbfi.com) |
| 02:43.37 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1216] by debhelper |
| 02:44.38 | *** join/#debian dayangkun (~dayangkun@116.213.117.66) |
| 02:45.02 | *** join/#debian ChmEarl (~tlviewer@cpe-66-74-165-149.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 02:47.15 | *** join/#debian baudelaire (~baudelair@wikipedia/Baudelaire) |
| 02:47.32 | *** join/#debian oy-tablet (~oy@g225209192.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 02:48.07 | *** join/#debian reddolf (~reddolf@177.18.152.39) |
| 02:49.30 | *** part/#debian baudelaire (~baudelair@wikipedia/Baudelaire) |
| 02:49.37 | *** join/#debian dvs (~colin@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 02:50.18 | *** join/#debian msantana (~darkstar@177.17.4.81) |
| 02:50.18 | *** join/#debian msantana (~darkstar@unaffiliated/darkstar) |
| 02:51.03 | *** join/#debian nodiscc (~baron@pir44-3-88-165-23-157.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 02:54.20 | *** join/#debian scourgen (~scourgen@180.166.43.146) |
| 02:56.00 | *** join/#debian AntiSpamMeta2 (~MetaBot@AntiSpamMeta/.) |
| 02:58.04 | *** part/#debian Mayumi (~ircuser@unaffiliated/mayumi) |
| 02:59.01 | *** join/#debian hasdf (~Hasdf@188-192-77-165-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 03:02.02 | *** join/#debian nomasteryoda (~nomastery@ip72-195-186-89.mc.at.cox.net) |
| 03:03.37 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1210] by debhelper |
| 03:04.10 | *** join/#debian up365 (~up365@c-24-0-135-202.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 03:04.49 | *** join/#debian kermit (unknown@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) |
| 03:06.46 | *** join/#debian mapf (~user@79.140.99.68) |
| 03:06.47 | *** join/#debian fedesilva (~fedesilva@r186-54-222-70.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 03:07.36 | *** join/#debian shengyao (~shengyao@2001:5c0:1000:a::9ad) |
| 03:07.45 | mapf | hi guys. i accidently remove half of /usr/bin and now i want recover broken packages but I can't reinstall anything because of broken man-db |
| 03:07.53 | *** join/#debian un214 (~un214@adsl-108-204-254-2.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:07.53 | *** join/#debian DemonJester (~DemonJest@cpe-184-153-69-193.buffalo.res.rr.com) |
| 03:07.53 | *** join/#debian DemonJester (~DemonJest@fedora/DemonJester) |
| 03:08.11 | gnarface | mapf: and what did you learn? |
| 03:08.17 | mapf | so I get: Errors were encountered while processing: man-db |
| 03:08.44 | *** join/#debian dzup (~dzup@freebsd/user/dzup) |
| 03:08.52 | mapf | gnarface: actually that did cuda-toolkit installer, not me |
| 03:10.09 | gnarface | mapf: BZZZZT! NO, sorry, our judges were looking for "Keep a backup." or "Don't use crappy 3rd party alpha shit, especially from Nvidia." thanks for playing though. |
| 03:10.49 | dvs | !win me |
| 03:10.49 | dpkg | Congratulations, dvs! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 03:11.14 | gnarface | mapf: without a backup this will be significantly harder to repair. you could consider booting the system with a live image maybe and copying contents of /usr/bin back to it until you have enough of a working dpkg+apt to do a forced reinstall of all packages though (should be tedious and time consuming but possible with a bash cript) |
| 03:11.17 | gnarface | *script* |
| 03:11.22 | gnarface | not cript |
| 03:11.49 | un214 | what did he do - blow away /var/lib/dpkg? |
| 03:12.23 | *** join/#debian jemparing (uid2362@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-srpdmrvmougvggvh) |
| 03:12.24 | mapf | gnarface: well I have apt working. yep "Keep a backup" is good idea, but not now :( |
| 03:12.32 | gnarface | un214: he *infers* from his vague claim that cuda-toolkit's makefil blew away ... most of /usr/bin (which would include the binaries that are capable of making sense of /var/lib/dpkg) |
| 03:12.46 | un214 | ah |
| 03:13.07 | un214 | need to fetch all active package files and reinstall them |
| 03:13.19 | un214 | I have a list of packages that need to be unpacked before apt works |
| 03:13.38 | mapf | un214: where is? |
| 03:13.55 | un214 | please wait ... accessing archive ... |
| 03:13.58 | gnarface | personally i think that's a ridiculously bad behavior for a makefile, even one from Nvidia where all linux offerings are served with generous helpings of neglect and open scorn, so i suspect some user error was involved here as well |
| 03:14.03 | gnarface | checkinstall is your friend |
| 03:14.22 | *** join/#debian clefebvre_ (~clem@178.167.212.113.threembb.ie) |
| 03:14.25 | gnarface | mapf: ^^^ |
| 03:14.42 | gnarface | mapf: (checkinstall is your friend) |
| 03:16.00 | *** join/#debian preds (~preds@cpe-108-182-55-186.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 03:16.37 | *** join/#debian potatoe5 (alice@unaffiliated/potatoe5) |
| 03:16.42 | mapf | gnarface: nope, that did installer, not make. it asks "I see installed version of cuda. Remove /usr/bind/cuda* ?" and i just don't expect that this will remove all /usr/bin |
| 03:17.32 | *** part/#debian cnz (~cnz@unaffiliated/cnzrules) |
| 03:17.47 | *** join/#debian dbelange (~dbelange@caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca) |
| 03:17.56 | dbelange | is there a package for a better /usr/share/dict/words |
| 03:18.03 | gnarface | mapf: checkinstall won't be of use to you at this point. it *could* have helped you get out of this bind easily if you *had* used it though |
| 03:18.08 | un214 | this is from an old version so it might miss a couple but should work: http://pastebin.com/hG2mqLAS |
| 03:18.14 | un214 | mapf: ^^ |
| 03:21.45 | *** join/#debian intelikey (~root@198.45.185.25) |
| 03:22.22 | *** part/#debian intelikey (~root@198.45.185.25) |
| 03:22.57 | *** join/#debian JoeAngel_ (~JoeAngel_@114-25-28-110.dynamic.hinet.net) |
| 03:25.32 | *** join/#debian linkedinyou (~Hasib@188.48.53.185) |
| 03:25.32 | *** join/#debian linkedinyou (~Hasib@unaffiliated/linkedinyou) |
| 03:27.17 | *** join/#debian ShaggyTwoDope (~shaggytwo@c-71-197-99-109.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 03:27.59 | *** join/#debian dvs (~Colin@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 03:30.19 | *** join/#debian ispireme (bouncers@many.things.ispire.me) |
| 03:32.38 | *** join/#debian junix (~ameyer@24-171-122-131.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 03:33.04 | *** join/#debian KeatonT (~textual@unaffiliated/keatont) |
| 03:35.19 | mapf | I have man-db working. i want to try this $ apt-get install --reinstall $(dpkg --get-selections | awk '{print $1}') |
| 03:35.24 | mapf | will it work? |
| 03:36.07 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-24-7-2-126.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 03:37.41 | *** join/#debian levi501d (~th3m4d0n3@173-8-248-29-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 03:38.36 | bw123 | it's okay you have a backup right |
| 03:38.46 | *** join/#debian chatsiri_ (~chatsiri_@kuwin-132-199.kuwin.ku.ac.th) |
| 03:38.56 | dvs | !pal bw123 |
| 03:38.56 | dpkg | points at bw123 and laughs uproariously |
| 03:39.33 | mapf | bw123: heh |
| 03:40.03 | un214 | !pal dpkg |
| 03:40.04 | dpkg | points at dpkg and laughs |
| 03:41.05 | *** join/#debian nim_ (~nim@77.49.145.246.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 03:41.28 | bw123 | mapf: wasn't being funny, just sayin, you won;t need a backup unless it doesn't work |
| 03:41.59 | *** join/#debian msantana (~darkstar@177.17.4.81) |
| 03:41.59 | *** join/#debian msantana (~darkstar@unaffiliated/darkstar) |
| 03:42.20 | gnarface | mapf: it might work if you don't have more packages installed than whatever the default limit of command-line options is |
| 03:43.09 | gnarface | mapf: however if you DO, you can resort to a bash "for" loop, or the xargs tool |
| 03:43.34 | gnarface | mapf: (or just change the limit, but its considered a security feature) |
| 03:43.36 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@c-98-210-252-110.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 03:43.41 | un214 | mapf: in which case do it this way dpkg --get-selections | awk '{print $1}' | xargs apt-get install --reinstall |
| 03:43.58 | gnarface | yea... something like that i think |
| 03:44.00 | *** join/#debian blackness (black@blackmajic.org) |
| 03:44.27 | *** join/#debian fedesilva (~fedesilva@r186-54-222-70.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 03:47.13 | *** join/#debian RipresaTecn (~matthew@unaffiliated/ripresatecn) |
| 03:47.15 | *** join/#debian perdent (3a0735f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.58.7.53.243) |
| 03:48.18 | *** join/#debian schatan (~schatan@149.205.109.75) |
| 03:48.34 | perdent | Is my current kernel vulnerable? 2.6.26-2-amd64 #1 SMP Sun Jun 20 20:16:30 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 03:48.41 | *** join/#debian loko1 (~poko@5e0612f6.bb.sky.com) |
| 03:49.08 | loko1 | Is there any way to change a systemwide proxy in LXDE ? |
| 03:49.39 | un214 | loko1: well if you want transparent proxy maybe |
| 03:50.34 | *** join/#debian Werring (~Werring@dev2.werringweb.nl) |
| 03:51.15 | loko1 | un214: i want to use privoxy but i cant find any such option in lxde as there is in gnome |
| 03:51.36 | un214 | /shrug/ proxies are so 1999 |
| 03:52.40 | loko1 | ok... |
| 03:53.42 | abrotman | loko1: for you, or all users? |
| 03:54.09 | loko1 | abrotman: just for me |
| 03:54.32 | abrotman | loko1: /msg dpkg http_proxy .. see if that helps you out |
| 03:54.41 | abrotman | you may need to put it in your .xsession |
| 03:55.48 | loko1 | abrotman: cheers m8 |
| 03:56.57 | *** join/#debian daemonkeeper (~Arno@debian/developer/arno) |
| 03:58.36 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 04:02.54 | *** join/#debian Dbug (~Dbug@unaffiliated/dbug) |
| 04:03.14 | *** join/#debian blbe (~chatzilla@089144206067.atnat0015.highway.a1.net) |
| 04:04.43 | *** join/#debian stackofcats (~stackofca@unaffiliated/stackofcats) |
| 04:08.54 | *** join/#debian drumr (~drumr@ip98-167-200-244.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 04:09.24 | *** join/#debian chvnx (~user@gateway/tor-sasl/chvnx) |
| 04:11.17 | *** join/#debian JohnnyL (~chatzilla@ool-457ac90a.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 04:11.49 | JohnnyL | why does ifconfig see only eth0 but ip addr show shows eth0,eth1? |
| 04:12.43 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 04:12.52 | *** join/#debian s3phir0th115 (~s3phir0th@pool-72-66-240-149.ronkva.east.verizon.net) |
| 04:13.30 | chvnx | ifconfig -a? |
| 04:13.48 | gnarface | JohnnyL: cause eth1 isn't up |
| 04:15.05 | JohnnyL | maybe its my disabled on motherboard lan chip? (its broken) |
| 04:15.14 | *** join/#debian Shoya_ (~Shoya@201.227.105.6) |
| 04:15.20 | blbe | anybody here familiar with javascript? |
| 04:17.22 | *** join/#debian carif (~mcarifio@146-115-180-141.c3-0.wtr-ubr1.sbo-wtr.ma.cable.rcn.com) |
| 04:18.02 | *** join/#debian carif (~mcarifio@146-115-180-141.c3-0.wtr-ubr1.sbo-wtr.ma.cable.rcn.com) |
| 04:18.10 | JohnnyL | blbe: what's your question? |
| 04:19.51 | blbe | JohnnyL: i dont know how to implement a natural sort function |
| 04:20.03 | gnarface | JohnnyL: maybe |
| 04:20.19 | gnarface | blbe: ask google to do your csci homework |
| 04:20.36 | gnarface | blbe: natural sort is freaking easy |
| 04:20.51 | *** join/#debian SiDz (SiD@DonSiD.net) |
| 04:21.24 | gnarface | blbe: google search for "natural sort algorithm javascript" comes up with almost 2.5 million hits |
| 04:22.40 | *** join/#debian nodiscc (~baron@pir44-3-88-165-23-157.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 04:23.43 | *** join/#debian Tiffy (~tiff@66.90.118.54) |
| 04:24.51 | blbe | gnarface: i know, i need it for my personal wiki, im no programmer thats my problem at the moment, i made a question in a mailing list but this takes time so i try it here |
| 04:25.16 | *** join/#debian storm300 (~daniel@r190-132-76-233.dialup.mobile.ancel.net.uy) |
| 04:25.34 | *** join/#debian socomm (~socomm@96-40-144-28.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) |
| 04:25.50 | gnarface | well you should know this is a cs 101 project. being no programmer doesn't get you out of this one. |
| 04:26.03 | *** join/#debian nomasteryoda (~nomastery@ip72-195-186-89.mc.at.cox.net) |
| 04:26.04 | gnarface | blbe: ^^^^^ |
| 04:26.15 | gnarface | nobody can do this for you |
| 04:27.12 | gnarface | you understand the algorithm, or you plagiarize it |
| 04:27.15 | bw123 | my nephew will do it for $30 |
| 04:27.33 | gnarface | right |
| 04:27.40 | gnarface | but its his own wiki |
| 04:27.42 | sney | wouldn't that be java, not javascript? also, yeah, do your own homework |
| 04:29.04 | JohnnyL | lol at gnarface! |
| 04:29.12 | peterrooney | blbe: also, seriously, /msg dpkg cross post |
| 04:29.12 | barfod | yeah dont write wikis if you dont know the subject material. :P |
| 04:29.12 | gnarface | blbe: its worth noting perhaps for your edification that its worth knowing these types of things (the concepts behind commonly-used elemental algorithms and design patterns) even if you don't code, is often beneficial to your everyday life |
| 04:30.15 | gnarface | barfod: well, yes actually. that was kindof what i was getting at. a wiki written by and for someone who will never understand its contents does nobody any good |
| 04:31.08 | gnarface | but the real issue at hand here is that you can't DO the task of DOCUMENTING *any* sort algorithms unless you understand said algorithms |
| 04:31.15 | gnarface | its impossible |
| 04:31.37 | gnarface | and not "impossible" in the "cows can't jump over the moon" impossible, its impossible in the 2 != 1 impossible |
| 04:31.53 | gnarface | comparatively, cows jumping over the moon becomes rather likely |
| 04:31.55 | gnarface | see my point here? |
| 04:32.18 | gnarface | its a *fundamental* opposition of logical constructs |
| 04:32.42 | gnarface | not like copying a brownie recipe |
| 04:33.09 | gnarface | quietly steps down off the soap box and puts it away |
| 04:33.38 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1204] by debhelper |
| 04:33.45 | *** join/#debian biggi_mat (~biggi_mat@89-212-177-1.dynamic.t-2.net) |
| 04:35.20 | *** join/#debian tuvwx (~tuv@unaffiliated/tuv) |
| 04:35.41 | JohnnyL | gnarface: you might know, can you convert music from itunes into mp3s to run them under linux. and can you do this without the need for windbloze |
| 04:35.45 | *** join/#debian aah (~user@gateway/tor-sasl/user54321) |
| 04:36.13 | blbe | gnarface: what do you mean? |
| 04:37.14 | JohnnyL | ? |
| 04:37.41 | *** join/#debian Rusty1 (~Rusty1@cpe-74-70-74-217.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 04:38.15 | gnarface | blbe: sorry i already put the soap box away |
| 04:38.31 | *** join/#debian r0tha (~r0tha@76-218-126-126.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:38.53 | gnarface | JohnnyL: i think iTunes music is all DRM protected so you can't. if that weren't the case though you could probably use avconv, ffmpeg, or mplayer (probably all 3 really) to convert |
| 04:39.38 | gnarface | JohnnyL: i regularly convert around between different itunes-compatible video/audio formats/codecs myself, but my sources are not DRM protected |
| 04:40.26 | JohnnyL | crap, i didn't want to have to resort her to windows. |
| 04:40.55 | JohnnyL | apple sucks $. |
| 04:41.55 | overo | I've never had a problem using apple devices on linux |
| 04:42.18 | overo | then, I've never used them on mac or windows either so I might be missing something |
| 04:42.21 | blbe | gnarface: what is "soap box" |
| 04:42.46 | JohnnyL | overo: sucks to be you. |
| 04:42.59 | overo | why? |
| 04:43.15 | *** join/#debian hubutm20 (~hubutm20@79.114.114.143) |
| 04:43.22 | JohnnyL | you tell me |
| 04:43.29 | gnarface | blbe: SYNONYMS: attack, bloviate, blow hot air, declare, decry, denounce, harangue, hold forth, inveigh, lecture, mouth, orate, perorate, pile it on, proclaim, rail, rant, recite, soapbox, speak, spiel*, spout, talk big |
| 04:43.31 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben@230.102.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz) |
| 04:43.46 | *** part/#debian blbe (~chatzilla@089144206067.atnat0015.highway.a1.net) |
| 04:44.01 | overo | JohnnyL: it doesn't? |
| 04:44.02 | gnarface | awww :( |
| 04:44.07 | gnarface | lost a fan |
| 04:44.20 | JohnnyL | :) |
| 04:45.09 | *** join/#debian mczhb_ (~mczhb@p4FF9B9F8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 04:45.50 | *** join/#debian grim4593 (~grim4593@76-227-189-53.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:45.56 | JohnnyL | high fives gnarface. |
| 04:46.18 | *** join/#debian noahfx (~noahfx@186.151.82.240) |
| 04:46.19 | *** join/#debian hoettr (~e@unaffiliated/hoettr) |
| 04:46.30 | *** join/#debian sandwitch (~sandwitch@37-251-47-5.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl) |
| 04:50.00 | *** join/#debian sandwitch (~sandwitch@193.172.124.196) |
| 04:51.00 | *** join/#debian iorivur (~quassel@133.51.120.36) |
| 04:56.36 | *** join/#debian lcafiero (~lcafiero@0127ahost2.starwoodbroadband.com) |
| 04:58.57 | *** join/#debian Konomi (~Konomi@unaffiliated/konomi) |
| 04:59.37 | *** join/#debian uNIXplumber (~uNIXplumb@ultimedia-linux.org) |
| 04:59.44 | *** join/#debian pan_ (~pan@c-76-112-160-158.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 05:02.57 | storm300 | any of you know of a shell command to replace characters in a string? |
| 05:03.14 | overo | tr or sed |
| 05:03.27 | *** join/#debian Mission-Critical (~MissionCr@unaffiliated/missioncritical) |
| 05:03.28 | *** join/#debian oy-tablet (~oy@g225209192.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 05:03.39 | overo | or a bash parameter expansion |
| 05:03.50 | overo | storm300: example? |
| 05:04.32 | *** join/#debian avengers_ (~avengers@116.90.239.3) |
| 05:04.51 | storm300 | i want to replace the spaces in a bash functions with + |
| 05:05.05 | xrated | So, in the realm of horrible ideas. How mounting a gluster volume on an nfs server and then making that volumne available via nfs to other servers. |
| 05:05.28 | storm300 | i mean the parameter |
| 05:06.39 | JohnnyL | WHat allows packets being sent to Facebook via FireFox even though I don't have that open on a new session? |
| 05:07.33 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc1-nott14-2-0-cust345.12-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 05:09.07 | overo | storm300: makepluses() { echo "${@// /+}"; } |
| 05:09.20 | sney | JohnnyL: probably some integration on a different website. it's got its fingers in everything these days |
| 05:09.48 | overo | JohnnyL: other pages which have "shit your friends like omg" things on them |
| 05:09.55 | storm300 | thanks i will read the man page and try to understand that |
| 05:10.26 | overo | storm300: it creates a bash function |
| 05:10.47 | overo | which prints its arguments with spaces replaced with + |
| 05:10.49 | JohnnyL | overo: appears to be only at reboot. |
| 05:11.10 | JohnnyL | overo: where you serious about listening to downloaded itunes music under linux? |
| 05:11.33 | overo | ?? I've never used itunes... |
| 05:11.43 | storm300 | yeah i know but to understand how it works, i want to know some basic bash syntax :) |
| 05:11.44 | overo | I listen to lots of music on my iphone and ipod |
| 05:11.47 | *** join/#debian xbanux (~hamkane@115.254.75.113) |
| 05:11.52 | overo | which I manage with linux |
| 05:12.00 | sney | as long as there's no DRM involved it's just like playing anything else |
| 05:12.34 | JohnnyL | oh well, i have no idea if it does or not. i just wanted tohe ability to up/download to an ipod. doesn't have to listen to it from the pc. |
| 05:12.36 | overo | storm300: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/100 and the rest of that site |
| 05:13.01 | storm300 | i will check that thanks |
| 05:13.19 | sney | JohnnyL: gtkpod |
| 05:14.21 | *** join/#debian DesertViper (~bfxh@189.103.131.193) |
| 05:15.11 | storm300 | that looks just perfect :) |
| 05:15.41 | JohnnyL | hm |
| 05:15.49 | JohnnyL | can you dl from itynes with gtkpod? |
| 05:15.52 | JohnnyL | itunes |
| 05:16.47 | peterrooney | storm300: try also /join #bash |
| 05:17.01 | *** join/#debian carbohydrate (uid7232@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmacogwggdkmirzl) |
| 05:17.04 | overo | storm300: you may also be looking for https://gist.github.com/1163649 |
| 05:18.53 | *** join/#debian diverdude (~bdi@x1-6-00-8e-f2-35-a7-da.k982.webspeed.dk) |
| 05:20.15 | *** join/#debian Justasic2 (~Justasic@71-222-85-76.ptld.qwest.net) |
| 05:20.37 | *** join/#debian luckman212 (~luckman21@2001:470:8abb:0:211:32ff:fe10:cdc1) |
| 05:20.41 | storm300 | overo: you guessed my intentions :) |
| 05:20.46 | *** join/#debian zykotick9 (~ZykoticK9@unaffiliated/zykotick9) |
| 05:22.06 | overo | what do I win! |
| 05:22.15 | *** join/#debian zed45 (~py@ool-18b9bd01.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 05:22.48 | *** join/#debian Justasic (~Justasic@unaffiliated/justasic) |
| 05:23.40 | storm300 | gives overo a cookie |
| 05:23.43 | *** join/#debian nodiscc (~baron@pir44-3-88-165-23-157.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 05:24.35 | JohnnyL | a free subscription to itunes as much as you want to download, the removal of your windows machines and an ipod. |
| 05:25.57 | overo | :\ |
| 05:26.09 | overo | is not really interested in any of those things |
| 05:26.20 | overo | but I'll take a cookie :) |
| 05:26.42 | overo | if I had any windows machines I'd take the removal too :) |
| 05:27.22 | storm300 | lynx -accept_all_cookies |
| 05:30.02 | *** join/#debian bfig (~b_fin_g@r186-52-1-66.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 05:30.21 | bfig | hello, i'm having a lot of trouble with the package manager |
| 05:30.40 | bfig | trying to install new versions of wine i destroyed the package manager |
| 05:31.23 | storm300 | hola compatriota :) |
| 05:31.43 | bfig | o/ |
| 05:32.12 | *** part/#debian overo (~adama@199.247.188.246) |
| 05:32.17 | *** join/#debian esaym153 (~esaym153@216-45-91-132.gvec.net) |
| 05:32.26 | bfig | storm300, can you help me? :) |
| 05:33.11 | storm300 | maybe... I don't know much but i've had a few problems with apt and i've fixed them :) |
| 05:33.38 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1196] by debhelper |
| 05:33.38 | sney | !ask |
| 05:33.39 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 05:34.04 | sney | there are usually helpers idling, we just wait until the actual questions appear |
| 05:34.10 | *** part/#debian haus (haus@reaver.cat.pdx.edu) |
| 05:34.15 | storm300 | wbfig: whats the problem |
| 05:34.33 | storm300 | *bfig |
| 05:37.08 | storm300 | what did you do and what happends now? |
| 05:37.15 | *** join/#debian Pez (~androirc@dsl-243-216-218.telkomadsl.co.za) |
| 05:37.18 | *** join/#debian gnuian (~christian@cpe-76-175-73-94.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 05:37.47 | sney | storm300: check if he's sending you private messages; if he is let him know he should ask questions in the channel |
| 05:38.13 | storm300 | ok but he isn't |
| 05:38.42 | *** join/#debian holt_kessler (~hkessler@c-76-126-63-39.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 05:38.57 | *** join/#debian jackmackg (~ARTgames@cpe-76-187-191-192.tx.res.rr.com) |
| 05:39.28 | *** join/#debian abchirk (~abchirk@g231201209.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 05:42.18 | *** join/#debian anunakki (~dawg@c-76-118-136-8.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 05:42.18 | *** join/#debian anunakki (~dawg@unaffiliated/anunakki) |
| 05:42.27 | *** join/#debian helen (~henry@218.248.24.19) |
| 05:43.03 | *** join/#debian KiSM_ (~KiSM@CPE-121-221-34-211.lns3.wel.bigpond.net.au) |
| 05:43.05 | helen | while compiling openoffice, I get the following errors: File not found: libcairo.so.2, File not found: libpixman-1.so.0 |
| 05:43.11 | *** join/#debian irpanech6 (~user@24.68.147.45) |
| 05:43.11 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@212-149-192-161.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 05:43.16 | helen | How to resolve it? |
| 05:43.36 | sney | helen: what are you compiling openoffice for? |
| 05:43.38 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1202] by debhelper |
| 05:43.51 | helen | sney, it's for amd64. |
| 05:43.55 | sney | so? |
| 05:44.14 | sney | ,v openoffice.org --arch amd64 |
| 05:44.16 | judd | Package: openoffice.org on amd64 -- lenny: 1:2.4.1+dfsg-1+lenny12; lenny-security: 1:2.4.1+dfsg-1+lenny12; lenny-backports: 1:3.2.1-11+squeeze2~bpo50+1; squeeze-security: 1:3.2.1-11+squeeze6; squeeze: 1:3.2.1-11+squeeze7; squeeze-proposed-updates: 1:3.2.1-11+squeeze8; squeeze-security: 1:3.2.1-11+squeeze8; sid: 1:3.4.0~ooo340m1-7; wheezy: 1:3.4.0~ooo340m1-7 |
| 05:44.48 | helen | sney, I have customized it and I need to compile and check it. |
| 05:46.03 | *** part/#debian crOckpOt (~crOckuspO@andarazoroflove.org) |
| 05:46.19 | *** join/#debian crOckpOt (~crOckuspO@andarazoroflove.org) |
| 05:46.28 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@88.233.87.228) |
| 05:46.28 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 05:46.58 | bfig | storm300, trying to install new versions of wine i destroyed the package manager -> i can't remove packages |
| 05:47.09 | *** part/#debian jackmackg (~ARTgames@cpe-76-187-191-192.tx.res.rr.com) |
| 05:47.19 | sney | helen: building anything involves dependencies. try 'apt-get build-dep openoffice.org', and read http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ |
| 05:47.21 | bfig | http://ideone.com/S6lYDN |
| 05:48.07 | *** join/#debian citizen-stig (~citizen_s@109.172.15.13) |
| 05:48.54 | bfig | i've tried several variations of apt-get remove |
| 05:48.58 | bfig | none of them worked |
| 05:49.29 | helen | sney, all the dependencies are already installed. |
| 05:50.02 | gnarface | bfig: did you try "apt-get --purge remove [package name]" ? |
| 05:53.35 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@c-98-210-252-110.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 05:54.08 | *** join/#debian sudoecho (~ghostitw@unaffiliated/sudoecho) |
| 05:55.22 | storm300 | sory i can't get to that url |
| 05:56.21 | *** join/#debian sandwitch (~sandwitch@31.137.179.33) |
| 06:00.58 | *** join/#debian sandwitch (~sandwitch@193.172.124.196) |
| 06:01.31 | *** join/#debian odin_ (~Odin@93-97-168-38.zone5.bethere.co.uk) |
| 06:01.40 | *** join/#debian phogg (~phogg@173-10-190-217-BusName-washingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 06:01.40 | *** join/#debian phogg (~phogg@pdpc/supporter/student/phogg) |
| 06:02.13 | *** join/#debian slv (~slv@c-24-91-117-99.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 06:03.10 | bfig | yes gnarface |
| 06:03.26 | bfig | gnarface, not working |
| 06:03.29 | *** join/#debian odin_ (~Odin@2a01:348:261:32:fcca:b99e:f333:fc64) |
| 06:03.41 | bfig | iirc this was solved by using aptitude directly and clean and some other magic |
| 06:04.53 | *** join/#debian deimos (~deimos@c-76-30-222-251.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 06:06.21 | storm300 | did you solve it? |
| 06:08.08 | *** join/#debian vivid (~ViViD@c-76-104-215-159.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 06:10.27 | *** join/#debian Yondering (~timo@MEN-AI2-141-039.wcta.net) |
| 06:10.53 | *** join/#debian KiSM (~KiSM@CPE-121-221-34-211.lns3.wel.bigpond.net.au) |
| 06:11.03 | *** join/#debian iorivur (~quassel@2001:200:0:7c03:21f:e1ff:fec9:d838) |
| 06:11.14 | *** join/#debian etp (Eki@nat/nokia/x-gtxtyfdxxxrwfgku) |
| 06:12.34 | *** join/#debian cache_za (~cacheza@41-133-139-74.dsl.mweb.co.za) |
| 06:12.34 | *** join/#debian cache_za (~cacheza@unaffiliated/cache-za/x-9055191) |
| 06:13.13 | gnarface | bfig: if the package itself has broken scripts attached to the uninstall hooks you may have to do manual cleanup :( |
| 06:13.26 | *** join/#debian shengyao (~shengyao@2001:5c0:1000:a::70f) |
| 06:13.48 | gnarface | bfig: aptitude is known for being able to route around *some* problems with broken packages and repos more intelligently/automatically than apt-get so... yea might be worth a try at least |
| 06:14.42 | gnarface | bfig: sometimes you can just make a quick&dirty hack to the uninstall scripts and then successfully remove everything and start over |
| 06:14.58 | gnarface | bfig: i don't claim to really know how |
| 06:16.42 | *** part/#debian storm300 (~daniel@r190-132-76-233.dialup.mobile.ancel.net.uy) |
| 06:18.08 | *** join/#debian user485763 (~aoeu@220.90.190.114) |
| 06:18.28 | *** join/#debian a-l-e (~quassel@72-77.195-178.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 06:19.31 | *** join/#debian abchirk_ (~abchirk@g225124134.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 06:25.30 | *** join/#debian ichigo-roku (~ichigo-ro@42.241.97.84.rev.sfr.net) |
| 06:26.34 | *** join/#debian kaosu (~kaosu@unaffiliated/kaosu) |
| 06:27.29 | bfig | gnarface, do you know somebody who could help me clean up this mess with my packages? :( |
| 06:30.33 | *** join/#debian KeatonT (~textual@unaffiliated/keatont) |
| 06:31.23 | gnarface | bfig: lots of people, but you're gonna be hard pressed to find one that is also willing to |
| 06:31.31 | gnarface | bfig: most people are gonna tell you just reinstall |
| 06:31.53 | gnarface | bfig: make a backup, then reinstall, then merge what you can salvage from the backup into the new install manually |
| 06:31.57 | *** join/#debian shengyao (~shengyao@2001:5c0:1000:a::1b5) |
| 06:32.01 | gnarface | bfig: that's what most of them will tell you to do |
| 06:32.45 | gnarface | bfig: and it will really save you more time. there's no *efficient* way to do what you need.... |
| 06:33.03 | gnarface | bfig: i've run out of productive, helpful, nice things to say, sorry |
| 06:33.26 | bfig | mm :( |
| 06:33.36 | bfig | i understand what you mean |
| 06:33.43 | bfig | but still: :((( |
| 06:33.54 | gnarface | there's no way to get around it being a big pain in the ass, even if you DO know enough about the system to be able to fix it |
| 06:34.22 | gnarface | and you don't, but learning how is actually a tiny amount of the whole effort of the task |
| 06:34.24 | *** join/#debian lorenzosu (~lorenzosu@vpn10.hotsplots.net) |
| 06:34.49 | *** join/#debian gogogo_ (~frankie82@118.142.56.118) |
| 06:34.51 | bfig | a package system is not supposed to do this :( |
| 06:35.11 | *** join/#debian iliv (~iliv@195.88.15.2) |
| 06:35.13 | gnarface | bfig: its not, but you weren't following the rules, so it did |
| 06:35.42 | bfig | sure, but let me explain how i see the whole package system |
| 06:35.49 | gnarface | bfig: keep in mind that not being aware of the unfairly hidden rules won't get you out of a crime either |
| 06:36.22 | *** join/#debian nim__ (~nim@46.246.160.67.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 06:36.25 | *** join/#debian glebihan (~glebihan@unaffiliated/glebihan) |
| 06:37.02 | bfig | you have dpkg at the core, which tracks installed packages. you also have a package cache. packages have versions and you can download and have simultaneous packages living at the same time on one pc |
| 06:37.05 | *** join/#debian pAt_ (~pAt@89.204.135.47) |
| 06:37.51 | bfig | at some point people prepare packages in .deb files, but what i don't know here is up to which point package generation is automated, so there are several places where things can go wrong |
| 06:39.01 | bfig | the more powerful your ability to script the generation and removal of packages, more places where things can go wrong, and afaik they are just scripts that copy/remove things from some $FOLDER |
| 06:39.14 | wols_ | bfig: use dpkg to remove stuff. much easier than apt-get. but I can't get to your paste: they're down for maintenance |
| 06:40.04 | bfig | wols_, ok... |
| 06:42.41 | *** join/#debian jakenl (~jaap@2001:980:90d6:1:21e:8cff:fe01:3479) |
| 06:42.43 | bfig | seems to have worked :| |
| 06:42.54 | *** join/#debian starius1 (~starius@37.190.62.55) |
| 06:45.13 | *** join/#debian rdqfdx (~rdqfdx@78.90.88.244) |
| 06:46.56 | *** join/#debian tralala (~user@unaffiliated/tralala) |
| 06:50.57 | *** join/#debian Katafalkas (~Katafalka@88-119-150-24.static.zebra.lt) |
| 06:52.53 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben@230.102.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz) |
| 06:54.31 | *** join/#debian Cyanure (~Cyanure@81-65-188-227.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 06:58.08 | *** join/#debian engla (~engla@h59ec1d30.selucle.dyn.perspektivbredband.net) |
| 06:58.08 | *** join/#debian engla (~engla@wikipedia/Sverdrup) |
| 06:58.55 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 07:02.35 | *** join/#debian fatalerrors (~fatalerro@cap31-1-82-66-73-107.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 07:03.52 | mapf | why each time I trying to use apt it trying to configure emacs http://dpaste.org/OgQSL/ |
| 07:04.27 | mapf | so here i just want to install xfce4 component, but apt doing something that i don't understand |
| 07:05.55 | mapf | actually i removed a2ps and emacs with dpkg with --force-all |
| 07:06.20 | *** join/#debian sandwitch (~sandwitch@193.172.124.196) |
| 07:06.22 | OctopusGirl | mapf: :3 |
| 07:06.35 | mapf | wut ._. |
| 07:06.38 | OctopusGirl | wraps her tenticles around mapf |
| 07:07.16 | mapf | i'm write here from removed emacs through |
| 07:08.29 | *** join/#debian junaidnaseer (~junaid@f052132015.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 07:10.35 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 07:14.02 | *** join/#debian Yonderinz (~timo@MEN-AI2-141-039.wcta.net) |
| 07:14.31 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.212.120.182) |
| 07:14.31 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 07:15.05 | *** join/#debian karimb (~kboumedhe@127.195.219.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 07:15.32 | *** join/#debian sawjig (~sawjig@gateway/tor-sasl/sawjig) |
| 07:19.01 | *** join/#debian Konomi (~Konomi@unaffiliated/konomi) |
| 07:20.46 | *** join/#debian dumfak (~angelo@119.93.153.34) |
| 07:21.53 | dumfak | hello... does anybody know how to update from ubuntu maverick 10.10 ? seems that the natty repos are already removed... |
| 07:22.15 | *** join/#debian swiftkey (swiftkey@unaffiliated/swiftkey) |
| 07:22.20 | dumfak | upgrade i mean* |
| 07:22.58 | ChrisH | mapf: dpkg --confgure emacs23 |
| 07:23.07 | ChrisH | !ubuntu |
| 07:23.07 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 07:24.03 | OctopusGirl | ChrisH: I am an octopus, aren't I? :o |
| 07:24.23 | dumfak | ok thanks ... |
| 07:24.28 | *** part/#debian dumfak (~angelo@119.93.153.34) |
| 07:24.40 | ChrisH | mapf: add an i in configure :) |
| 07:24.47 | Dalvini | 08:23 < ChrisH> !ubuntu ← :D must happen quite often |
| 07:25.11 | *** join/#debian Tuxist (~quassel@business-092-079-178-083.static.arcor-ip.net) |
| 07:25.15 | OctopusGirl | Dalvini: Me octopus. |
| 07:25.53 | *** part/#debian swiftkey (swiftkey@unaffiliated/swiftkey) |
| 07:26.08 | Dalvini | OctopusGirl: hmmm… ok! |
| 07:26.25 | ChrisH | Dalvini: yes... most times not that obviuos an |
| 07:26.32 | *** join/#debian cache_za (~cacheza@unaffiliated/cache-za/x-9055191) |
| 07:27.04 | *** join/#debian holt_kessler (~hkessler@c-76-126-63-39.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 07:27.45 | *** join/#debian mavhc (~mavhc@cpc3-basf10-2-0-cust617.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 07:27.45 | *** join/#debian iorivur (~quassel@2001:200:0:7c03:21f:e1ff:fec9:d838) |
| 07:28.04 | *** join/#debian floe_ (~flo@e177090109.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 07:28.42 | *** join/#debian Gurty (~princess@ALyon-256-1-223-189.w109-212.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 07:30.01 | OctopusGirl | Dalvini: :3 |
| 07:30.23 | ChrisH | mapf: I overlooked line 23: emacs23: error while loading shared libraries: libotf.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory; its from libotf-dev on wheezy |
| 07:31.23 | *** join/#debian stlifey (~stlifey@112.96.100.38) |
| 07:31.45 | OctopusGirl | ChrisH: software doesn't need deps to be removed. :/ |
| 07:32.03 | *** join/#debian kzrl (~kzrl@kzrl.org) |
| 07:32.12 | OctopusGirl | and he wants to remove emacs |
| 07:32.33 | OctopusGirl | mapf: apt-get remove emacs |
| 07:32.38 | OctopusGirl | SIMPLE! :3 |
| 07:33.18 | Dalvini | or apt-get install- emacs |
| 07:33.30 | Dalvini | or apt-get install emacs- |
| 07:33.36 | OctopusGirl | Dalvini: No? |
| 07:33.38 | Dalvini | (second only) |
| 07:33.38 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1208] by debhelper |
| 07:33.40 | OctopusGirl | He wants to remove it |
| 07:33.50 | *** join/#debian dobber (~dobber@213.169.45.222) |
| 07:33.51 | OctopusGirl | I remember him saying. lol |
| 07:34.01 | OctopusGirl | Thu Dec 13 07:34:01 GMT 2012 |
| 07:34.27 | Dalvini | won't it be removed if you <install package_name-> ? |
| 07:34.47 | Dalvini | “-” appended to package_name? |
| 07:34.56 | mapf | yep libotf is main problem |
| 07:35.07 | *** join/#debian slv (~slv@c-24-91-117-99.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 07:35.31 | mapf | when i dpkg --configure libotf-bin it saying that it's installed and configured |
| 07:36.21 | mapf | and i can't remove libotf as well |
| 07:36.52 | wols_ | dpkg -l liboft-bin what are the first two letters in the status? |
| 07:36.52 | dpkg | No packages found matching liboft-bin what are the first two letters in the status |
| 07:37.49 | *** join/#debian Slydder (~chuck@31-16-80-180-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 07:37.51 | ChrisH | mapf: I do not see libotf-bin is uncoinfigured, but files are missing. compare dpkg -L libotf-bin with the installed files |
| 07:39.28 | OctopusGirl | Thu Dec 13 07:39:28 GMT 2012 |
| 07:39.38 | *** join/#debian bocaneri (~bocaneri@about/linux/staff/sauvin) |
| 07:40.52 | *** join/#debian mastro (~mastro@2-229-44-241.ip195.fastwebnet.it) |
| 07:41.34 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~john@host81-141-166-125.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 07:42.21 | *** join/#debian Sm0kEz (~Sm0kEz@95.147.119.229) |
| 07:42.53 | *** join/#debian mastro (~mastro@2-229-44-241.ip195.fastwebnet.it) |
| 07:43.01 | *** join/#debian alpheb (~alpheb@pla78-2-82-240-55-23.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 07:43.11 | mapf | all files is ok |
| 07:43.39 | mapf | I wrote a script for to check pkgs actually |
| 07:44.24 | mapf | missing files i mean |
| 07:45.08 | OctopusGirl | Thu Dec 13 07:45:08 GMT 2012 |
| 07:45.10 | OctopusGirl | er... |
| 07:45.13 | OctopusGirl | OMFG! |
| 07:45.18 | OctopusGirl | Look at the time! :o |
| 07:45.51 | *** join/#debian HelloShitty (~Utilizado@pa1-84-91-3-222.netvisao.pt) |
| 07:45.54 | *** join/#debian deadalnix (~deadalnix@63-235-13-61.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 07:46.00 | OctopusGirl | HelloShitty |
| 07:46.05 | OctopusGirl | how r u? |
| 07:46.06 | OctopusGirl | :o |
| 07:46.52 | *** part/#debian alpheb (~alpheb@pla78-2-82-240-55-23.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 07:47.04 | *** join/#debian alpheb (~alpheb@pla78-2-82-240-55-23.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 07:47.21 | ChrisH | mapf: You took the wrong road ;) dpkg -L libotf-dev and libotf0 are the ones to be checked and ls -l /usr/lib/libotf.so* |
| 07:47.27 | HelloShitty | hi OctopusGirl |
| 07:47.31 | wols_ | mapf: debsums |
| 07:47.31 | HelloShitty | i'm fine |
| 07:47.40 | *** join/#debian Mmike (~msplival@cpe-188-129-99-86.dynamic.amis.hr) |
| 07:47.41 | HelloShitty | i'm about to start working |
| 07:47.45 | *** part/#debian alpheb (~alpheb@pla78-2-82-240-55-23.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 07:47.47 | HelloShitty | xD |
| 07:47.57 | OctopusGirl | HelloShitty: Sames :( |
| 07:48.03 | OctopusGirl | but college instead |
| 07:48.14 | OctopusGirl | HelloShitty: R u in PT? |
| 07:48.22 | OctopusGirl | Where is PT? What is PT? :o |
| 07:48.30 | HelloShitty | my collegde was yesterday late night |
| 07:48.32 | HelloShitty | yes |
| 07:48.38 | HelloShitty | why you ask? |
| 07:48.51 | HelloShitty | PT is short for Portugal |
| 07:48.52 | OctopusGirl | HelloShitty: Cause curiosity made me ask :( |
| 07:49.05 | *** join/#debian Ealdor (~Ealdor@91.Red-88-3-110.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 07:50.27 | mapf | ChrisH: library is missing |
| 07:51.34 | OctopusGirl | Thu Dec 13 07:51:34 GMT 2012 |
| 07:51.43 | ChrisH | mapf: install it and it should be fixed |
| 07:51.48 | OctopusGirl | EAT SHIT TURKEY BOYY |
| 07:52.43 | *** join/#debian ompaul (~ompaul@unaffiliated/ompaul) |
| 07:52.44 | ChrisH | OctopusGirl: Please stay polite and ontopic |
| 07:53.53 | OctopusGirl | ChrisH: Turkey boy is my bf and that was targetted at my bf but okies. :3 |
| 07:53.56 | OctopusGirl | sorry |
| 07:53.58 | OctopusGirl | SOWI |
| 07:54.27 | OctopusGirl | Thu Dec 13 07:54:26 GMT 2012 |
| 07:54.44 | ChrisH | OctopusGirl: and please stopp these timetamps |
| 07:54.51 | OctopusGirl | :/ |
| 07:55.15 | ompaul | OctopusGirl: do you have a debian question? |
| 07:55.26 | OctopusGirl | er... |
| 07:55.29 | *** join/#debian lordjago (~lordjago@freebox.galilee.fr) |
| 07:55.39 | OctopusGirl | ompaul: How do I fix loopback? :o |
| 07:55.46 | *** join/#debian ToApolytoXaos (~sssssshhh@interlim-adsl-t1.logos.cy.net) |
| 07:55.57 | ompaul | OctopusGirl: how is it broken? |
| 07:55.59 | OctopusGirl | I found out it my wifi driver that's causing it to fail. |
| 07:56.12 | ompaul | OctopusGirl: how is it broken? |
| 07:56.19 | ChrisH | OctopusGirl: Tell us what is broken incl. error messages |
| 07:56.42 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 07:56.59 | OctopusGirl | Well it's not broken on it's own. If I'm not connected to wifi then I have to bring down the wlan0 interface for loopback to work. |
| 07:57.03 | mapf | additionally i install a couple of libs and apt is working |
| 07:57.08 | mapf | halelya |
| 07:57.16 | OctopusGirl | Pls can we save this til later? I have to head to college now sorry. :( |
| 07:57.37 | Dalvini | that explains quite a bit :) |
| 07:57.42 | *** join/#debian tomoprime (~tomoprime@ool-1826cbb1.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 07:58.08 | *** join/#debian micke (~micke@h-194-33.a197.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 07:58.11 | ChrisH | OctopusGirl: sure... pastebin ifconfig -a with WLAN active and disconnected and start asking here once more |
| 07:58.11 | OctopusGirl | byeee x :3 |
| 07:58.27 | OctopusGirl | ChrisH: I will next time, okies? |
| 07:58.43 | ChrisH | Dalvini: What kind of school is college? Which age? |
| 07:59.17 | *** join/#debian aswen (~aswen@smtp3.nedap.com) |
| 07:59.34 | *** join/#debian afuentes (~afuentes@95.61.119.171) |
| 07:59.49 | lasers | After high school? 18 and above? |
| 08:01.52 | Dalvini | ChrisH: depends on the country I guess |
| 08:02.06 | *** join/#debian ThomasL (~thomas@nocarrier.kvi.sgsnet.se) |
| 08:02.31 | *** join/#debian internat (~nf@60-241-102-25.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 08:02.41 | mapf | wols_: debsums should be used with grep -v OK i guess? |
| 08:03.23 | wols_ | one way, yes |
| 08:03.25 | mapf | oh, i find a flag -l |
| 08:03.39 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1214] by debhelper |
| 08:03.40 | mapf | wols_: nice, thx |
| 08:04.16 | *** join/#debian maik_ (~maik@69.76.23.220) |
| 08:05.01 | *** join/#debian Rosha (~rosha@37.254.206.44) |
| 08:05.21 | *** join/#debian tom_ (~tom@93.186.158.184) |
| 08:05.25 | kaosu | Sometimes I wonder where I would be without Debian's stable branch. I am analyzing 100,000 malware samples, my lab machine is running out of RAM (1% left) and the machine has yet to have any real issues in the last week. |
| 08:06.43 | *** join/#debian luckman212 (~luckman21@2001:470:8abb:0:211:32ff:fe10:cdc1) |
| 08:07.24 | *** join/#debian Kaede (~Kaede@unaffiliated/kaede) |
| 08:08.27 | *** join/#debian alkahest (~alkahest@unaffiliated/alkahest) |
| 08:08.56 | *** join/#debian e1z0 (~null@netlinux/founder/e1z0) |
| 08:09.34 | *** join/#debian Cyanure (~Cyanure@2001:660:330f:c0:fcbb:28f7:db1e:7c51) |
| 08:11.14 | *** join/#debian tm (~tm@2a03:2900:2:1::b8) |
| 08:12.03 | *** join/#debian JohnnyL (~chatzilla@ool-457ac90a.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 08:12.24 | JohnnyL | What's a good desktop package for debian? |
| 08:13.51 | Rydekull | define desktop package? |
| 08:14.39 | JohnnyL | something that isn't kde or e , stable and somewhat friendly. |
| 08:14.51 | barfod | All of them work fine. xfce , kde , gnome, dwm |
| 08:15.11 | barfod | openbox w/e , they are all supported |
| 08:15.14 | JohnnyL | but not e or kde? |
| 08:15.19 | barfod | all of them |
| 08:15.22 | JohnnyL | yeah , whatever, doesn't matter. |
| 08:15.26 | kaosu | That is really personal preference. You're better off testing out live CD's with the environments your interested in and do some exploring. |
| 08:15.33 | JohnnyL | wow. you really aren't biased are you? |
| 08:15.46 | *** join/#debian Rosha (~rosha@37.254.206.44) |
| 08:16.18 | JohnnyL | i have to take 3 more hours to athe already 1 hour spent on this finding out i need to upgrade because i can't change the font of term in a command line option. |
| 08:16.19 | peterrooney | JohnnyL: e16 and e17 are fundamentally differnet DEs |
| 08:16.22 | *** join/#debian Knaldgas (~pdj@dce.dongenergy.dk) |
| 08:16.33 | trist4n | you cant change the font of your terminal? |
| 08:16.49 | *** join/#debian KriP (~kp@igw000f15028550.ftth.vejen-net.dk) |
| 08:17.07 | JohnnyL | trist4n: nope not under Enlightenment. |
| 08:17.12 | *** join/#debian dc5ala (~dc5ala@stgt-5d8499e0.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 08:17.14 | JohnnyL | not the gd debian install package. |
| 08:17.21 | *** join/#debian Yukikaze (~Yuki@ipv6.yuki.yuri-chan.com) |
| 08:17.24 | trist4n | sounds pretty retarded. |
| 08:17.28 | *** join/#debian grn (grn@gateway/shell/mydevil.net/x-vsuivfyslpqqiork) |
| 08:17.36 | *** join/#debian ninjak (~ninjak@77.239.137.142) |
| 08:17.43 | JohnnyL | it's not pretty retatrded, it's fucking retarded. |
| 08:17.45 | *** join/#debian dxtr (~dxtr@unaffiliated/dxtr) |
| 08:18.11 | JohnnyL | it's 1000 or so version |
| 08:18.14 | JohnnyL | it's 1000 or so versions back |
| 08:18.22 | JohnnyL | from the debian distro. |
| 08:18.26 | barfod | You dont like your font? thats your only problem? |
| 08:18.37 | JohnnyL | barfod. yes, the default is too small. |
| 08:18.44 | JohnnyL | i'm wondering if I should just go kde. |
| 08:18.53 | JohnnyL | i don't want to spend any more fucking time with it. |
| 08:18.54 | barfod | and you can not adjust the size of yuor terminal font? |
| 08:19.05 | JohnnyL | barfod: can you? |
| 08:19.12 | barfod | try right clicking on xterm. should be a way tomake it larger |
| 08:19.16 | barfod | yeah ofc i can |
| 08:19.29 | JohnnyL | inside-text-hightlight occurs. |
| 08:19.31 | JohnnyL | no menus |
| 08:19.34 | JohnnyL | first thing i tried. |
| 08:19.50 | JohnnyL | is need a desktop 1) stable 2) flexible 3) modern. |
| 08:19.52 | bfig | i think i just took a warm dump over my package manager |
| 08:19.52 | barfod | hold down cnrl and right click |
| 08:19.54 | JohnnyL | s/is/i |
| 08:20.00 | bfig | i just tried installing the 32 bit libraries |
| 08:20.05 | *** join/#debian holt_kessler (~hkessler@c-76-126-63-39.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 08:20.07 | barfod | JohnnyL: hold down cntrl + rigth click |
| 08:20.31 | JohnnyL | ok it's bigger, not much of a selection of fonts. |
| 08:20.34 | JohnnyL | that x |
| 08:20.41 | bfig | (i'm on amd64) and typed `dpkg --add-architecture i386; aptitude update; apt-get install ia32-libs` |
| 08:20.41 | barfod | well no, but now yuo can see it anyway |
| 08:20.43 | JohnnyL | thank god x isn't made by current desktop programmers. |
| 08:20.55 | pce | which is a good virtualization for running a shared hosting with cpanel? |
| 08:21.37 | bfig | two things happened, first of all i'm getting all my :amd64 dev libraries removed, second i'm getting an error dpkg: error: --configure needs a valid package name but 'libselinux1' is not: ambiguous package name 'libselinux1' with more than one installed instance |
| 08:21.45 | *** join/#debian iorivur (~quassel@2001:200:0:7c03:21f:e1ff:fec9:d838) |
| 08:23.11 | *** join/#debian _Qman (~Qman@109.88.1.44) |
| 08:23.52 | *** join/#debian adellam (~adellam@pdpc/supporter/active/adellam) |
| 08:24.09 | bfig | any ideas about how to solve this? :| |
| 08:24.25 | alkahest | Does anyone know anything about a package called python-appindicator, and where I can get it? I've googled around and the best I can come up with is it exists in Testing, but apt-pinning creates a terrible dependency situation. Backports doesnt seem to have it. |
| 08:25.30 | kaosu | bfig: Short answer would be to just backup your critical data and reinstall. You have made a mess and are better off simply reinstalling the OS. I mean, it could be corrected, but it just isn't worth the time. |
| 08:25.30 | alkahest | Almost everything I find about python-appindicator is related to Ubuntu for some reason. |
| 08:25.30 | JohnnyL | is it difficult to instlal the latest gnome? |
| 08:25.36 | *** join/#debian Walex2 (~Walex@188.31.132.151.threembb.co.uk) |
| 08:25.44 | *** join/#debian arif-ali (~arif-ali@81.144.163.60) |
| 08:25.54 | bfig | kaosu, :( |
| 08:26.09 | bfig | ok... this is going to be painful :||| |
| 08:26.13 | barfod | alkahest: try using "aptitude" instead and seeing what options it gives you to resolve those dependencies gracefully |
| 08:26.16 | JohnnyL | an i just download gnome-desktop-3.7.2.tar.xz and install just that? |
| 08:26.24 | barfod | instead of apt-get* |
| 08:26.34 | bfig | because my setup was a mess to begin with |
| 08:26.39 | barfod | JohnnyL: apt-get install gnome |
| 08:26.46 | bfig | not gonna install debian, too much trouble :( |
| 08:26.47 | *** join/#debian dreamon_ (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 08:27.22 | barfod | bfig: debian install in ten minutes on more architectures than any other distribution in the world |
| 08:27.23 | bfig | i had trouble with kvm and i don't really know how i managed to install it, i'll just do ubuntu till i'm more comfortable with linux :'( |
| 08:27.28 | JohnnyL | barfod: how many versions back is that? |
| 08:27.30 | JohnnyL | i want the latest. |
| 08:27.31 | kaosu | bfig: Debian is actually really easy to install and maintain. Just read the online documentation. |
| 08:27.39 | alkahest | barfod, I did -- the resolutions aptitude came up with seemed to involved upgrading all manner of Python packages, and even in that case it could not find a solution that resolved all dependencies..Wish I could find the source and just compile it myself |
| 08:27.44 | barfod | either your computer is an offf model or you are expereincing an out of the ordinary error |
| 08:27.53 | kaosu | There is no reason for anyone to not read the documentation. It is free, accessible and addresses almost all scenarios you will encounter. |
| 08:28.31 | bfig | kaosu, i've had trouble with fglrx and networking and so many things that i really don't want to bother again, if i have to reinstall it will be some other os. |
| 08:28.51 | bfig | it is not that i can't solve the problems, it is that i don't really want to solve them, they should take care of themselves |
| 08:29.01 | JohnnyL | genius |
| 08:29.03 | bfig | i just wasted about 8 hours playing with the package manager |
| 08:29.40 | barfod | alkahest: whether apt-get or aptitiude or make install , if hte libraries confilct there will be a problem. but you can always get the .deb file a site like this http://packages.debian.org/sid/python-appindicator |
| 08:29.45 | JohnnyL | yes, reading manuals instead of proper software testing and design promotes the term 'reading is fundemental'. |
| 08:29.45 | bfig | i am thankful for this channel's patience and time throughout this adventure |
| 08:29.57 | JohnnyL | bfig: ^ |
| 08:30.11 | barfod | if the libraries conflict, there will be a problem* sry typos |
| 08:30.25 | bfig | are you saying that debian's package management system is not properly tested/designed? |
| 08:30.51 | alkahest | yeah...may have to wait until release of next version... |
| 08:31.04 | bfig | maybe we could go to #debian-offtopic to discuss this kind of things? |
| 08:31.19 | alkahest | I wish people who packaged standalone apps didnt assume everyone was running Ubuntu |
| 08:31.29 | JohnnyL | wow, it'd be nice if debian showed what version of gnome it's installing? |
| 08:31.34 | JohnnyL | version .000.1..12..1 maybe? |
| 08:31.36 | barfod | offtopic is not really for technical support |
| 08:31.40 | lasers | ,versions gnome |
| 08:31.42 | judd | Package: gnome on i386 -- lenny: 1:2.22.2~5; squeeze: 1:2.30+7; sid: 1:3.4+7; wheezy: 1:3.4+7 |
| 08:31.44 | lasers | JohnnyL: Here you go. |
| 08:32.18 | JohnnyL | ok well thats not too bad. |
| 08:32.39 | JohnnyL | can i just install gnome, or do I have to uninstall E first? |
| 08:32.45 | lasers | Also, http://wiki.debian.org/Gnome |
| 08:32.47 | barfod | bfig: ask dpkg about "dkms fglrx" |
| 08:33.05 | JohnnyL | and is it possible to get an updated E that isn't 10000 revisons back. |
| 08:33.23 | *** join/#debian Rosha (~rosha@37.254.206.44) |
| 08:33.34 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 08:33.53 | JohnnyL | ? |
| 08:34.03 | bfig | barfod, i eventually solved the problem... again, it is not a matter of solving it, but of wasting my time with it |
| 08:34.21 | neon__ | anyone know how to setup an old computer with int18 to pxe boot? |
| 08:34.36 | barfod | bfig: i have wasted 1000s of hours on debian and linux- im the wrong presopn to tell :) |
| 08:34.38 | bfig | at my level of expertise (ie, 'barely-knowledgeable-user') it simply doesn't pay off :( |
| 08:35.11 | bfig | i really don't need that much customization... i think i can salvage most of my system since my home is in a different directory |
| 08:35.15 | barfod | nah but if you stick with it, and take a class or two- you can take all the time and make it worth it. You found debian- honestly thats half the battle |
| 08:35.31 | *** join/#debian Kar- (~aaron@5e0c77bc.bb.sky.com) |
| 08:35.47 | bfig | finding debian? if that was half of the battle i would've won that battle many many times |
| 08:35.50 | bfig | :p |
| 08:35.50 | *** join/#debian trashman (~bambam@a81-14-225-240.net-htp.de) |
| 08:36.22 | barfod | many people arent privileged with the education to find such a thing. And know what it is when they do. |
| 08:36.53 | *** join/#debian RipresaTecn (~matthew@unaffiliated/ripresatecn) |
| 08:36.56 | alkahest | Debian's pretty well documented though...I mean the documentation is really readable... |
| 08:38.01 | bfig | i don't doubt it, i am just making the case that i don't want to really read it... i have enough with whatever i'm up to at the moment |
| 08:38.21 | bfig | probably not the correct OS for my current life circumstances :p |
| 08:40.45 | JohnnyL | man i hope gnome doesn't have as many bugs as enlightenment. |
| 08:40.53 | folivora | Gday, any good tips when I want to play mp3 files from remote server (using ssh) |
| 08:41.02 | JohnnyL | should I have uninstalled enlightenment first? |
| 08:41.03 | *** join/#debian mastroWork (~mastro@2-229-44-241.ip195.fastwebnet.it) |
| 08:41.09 | JohnnyL | oh well doesn't matter now, installing. |
| 08:41.24 | barfod | use a command line music player folivora like "mplayer" or "mpg123" |
| 08:41.43 | alkahest | I actually dont think I've experienced a single quirk in Gnome on stable |
| 08:41.55 | alkahest | I havent even thought of it until now |
| 08:42.01 | JohnnyL | alkahest good to know. :) |
| 08:42.29 | barfod | folivora: or use sshfs and just mount your other computers drive. thats probably more what you want |
| 08:42.32 | JohnnyL | kde has weird bugs. you need to switch back to classic view in order to add a fucking icon to favorites. |
| 08:43.34 | alkahest | Gnome probably succeeds just because it has less features :) -- but I was impressed how easy it was to get wireless networking going and the like using the network manager app |
| 08:43.35 | *** join/#debian starius2 (~starius@37.190.62.39) |
| 08:43.57 | JohnnyL | i have used it a little when i was using ubuntu. |
| 08:44.05 | JohnnyL | it's seems, simplistic and uniform. |
| 08:44.11 | JohnnyL | my only dread was that it was in vnc. |
| 08:44.19 | JohnnyL | never got a chance to use it much. |
| 08:44.33 | *** join/#debian FilipeMaia (~filipe@h136n4-u-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 08:44.37 | *** join/#debian dgeary2 (~david@2001:388:e001:1e00:c646:19ff:fe76:e72) |
| 08:47.36 | peterS | folivora: I play music from _my_ fileserver via an NFS mount. that seems more practical than trying to stream over an SSH connection. |
| 08:48.09 | folivora | peterS: the thing is that I am behind of my companys FW and the box which has music is behind of my home FW ;) |
| 08:48.17 | folivora | So tunneling is kinda only option |
| 08:48.20 | mapf | debdums given me 396 broken packages. should i cry? |
| 08:48.25 | mapf | ._. |
| 08:48.33 | mapf | *gives* |
| 08:48.40 | peterS | *debsums* ? |
| 08:48.52 | mapf | yep |
| 08:49.09 | *** join/#debian FilipeMaia (~filipe@h136n4-u-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 08:49.27 | mapf | debsums -ca | grep missing | awk '{print $6} | uniq | wc -l |
| 08:50.01 | peterS | folivora: well. there's a 'sshfs' package which I haven't used. it won't be terribly efficient as a file server transport, but you only need 128 kbit / second of throughput here. |
| 08:50.04 | JohnnyL | lasers: thanks! |
| 08:50.13 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@mna75-11-88-161-199-178.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:50.21 | peterS | (or, you know, whatever quality of mp3 files you use) |
| 08:50.21 | *** join/#debian Shirakawasuna (~Shirakawa@184-77-202-94.war.clearwire-wmx.net) |
| 08:50.59 | JohnnyL | gdm3 is better than gdm? |
| 08:51.14 | *** join/#debian Walex (~Walex@92.40.98.80.threembb.co.uk) |
| 08:51.33 | *** join/#debian mastro__ (~mastro@2-229-44-241.ip195.fastwebnet.it) |
| 08:51.44 | peterS | folivora: actually what I did back when I needed exactly what you're saying: I transferred my music collection, or part of it, from home to work. Now I can't remember if I mostly use rsync, or if this included a sneakernet (aka portable USB disk) component |
| 08:52.24 | *** join/#debian jehan (~jehan@kiel4-dmz.gis.de) |
| 08:52.48 | JohnnyL | who does all the revision updates for debian. that must be a very HELLISH job. |
| 08:52.50 | JohnnyL | ? |
| 08:53.09 | *** join/#debian kyrix (~ashley@chello084113001032.15.14.vie.surfer.at) |
| 08:53.40 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1221] by debhelper |
| 08:55.08 | *** join/#debian ellic2 (~ellic@66-90-198-31.dyn.grandenetworks.net) |
| 08:55.40 | lasers | JohnnyL: No problem. And you want gdm3. |
| 08:56.02 | JohnnyL | lasers: k |
| 08:56.39 | JohnnyL | lasers is it ok to install from enlightenment? |
| 08:56.40 | *** join/#debian madsara (~madsara@bolgia7.circleeight.net) |
| 08:56.49 | *** join/#debian fysics_ (~fysics@216.17.105.206) |
| 08:56.50 | lasers | JohnnyL: What do you mean? |
| 08:56.52 | *** join/#debian davidrussell_ (~davidruss@199.101.100.153) |
| 08:56.56 | *** join/#debian holt_kessler (~hkessler@c-76-126-63-39.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 08:57.03 | JohnnyL | e i a window manager. |
| 08:57.11 | JohnnyL | e is a window manager. |
| 08:57.17 | *** join/#debian kroyeren (~kroyeren@cloudia.kroyeren.dk) |
| 08:57.24 | *** join/#debian mete (~mete@178.209.50.247) |
| 08:57.26 | *** join/#debian somiaj (~jaimos@50-0-83-73.dsl.static.sonic.net) |
| 08:57.27 | *** join/#debian scoopex (~scoopex@linetics.de) |
| 08:57.35 | *** join/#debian blue_ (~blue@irc.mmh.dk) |
| 08:57.38 | *** join/#debian dshep (~dshep_@shepsoft.net) |
| 08:57.46 | *** join/#debian AlcariTheMad (~alcari@216.24.194.152) |
| 08:57.53 | *** join/#debian Konomi (~Konomi@unaffiliated/konomi) |
| 08:58.01 | *** join/#debian riddle (riddle@us.yunix.net) |
| 08:58.03 | *** join/#debian Pici (~Pici@ubuntu/member/pdpc.professional.pici) |
| 08:58.11 | lasers | JohnnyL: As long as you're on Debian, sure. You can worry about Enlightment later. Packages will get along just fine. |
| 08:58.21 | JohnnyL | oh great. |
| 08:58.22 | *** join/#debian RipresaTecn (~matthew@unaffiliated/ripresatecn) |
| 08:58.31 | *** join/#debian Rosha (~rosha@37.254.206.44) |
| 08:58.33 | *** join/#debian goacid (~Goacid@2a01:e35:2431:1c0:6130:cb93:6290:233a) |
| 08:58.53 | *** join/#debian mastroWork (~mastro@2-229-44-241.ip195.fastwebnet.it) |
| 08:59.03 | JohnnyL | enlightenment has some very quite bugs. at least this hugely old one that comes in .deb |
| 08:59.09 | lasers | And if you decided on using Gnome over E17, then you can purge all E17 packages. |
| 08:59.25 | JohnnyL | lasers, ok great. |
| 08:59.33 | JohnnyL | crosses fingers. here i go! reboot! |
| 08:59.47 | *** join/#debian jasonwert (~w3rt@96-42-148-132.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) |
| 08:59.49 | *** join/#debian rigolox (~rigolox@94.236.7.190) |
| 09:00.14 | *** join/#debian CissWit (~cisswit@6-8.fr) |
| 09:00.41 | *** join/#debian bier (~bier@helixnetworks.de) |
| 09:00.54 | *** join/#debian Tiffon (~name@79.109.213.48.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 09:00.54 | *** join/#debian Tiffon (~name@unaffiliated/tiff0n) |
| 09:01.26 | ectospasm | are there any debdelta users out there? I'm wondering if it's worth the trouble. |
| 09:01.59 | *** join/#debian floe (~flo@e177090109.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 09:02.12 | *** join/#debian _moon (~moon@131.117.202.4) |
| 09:02.14 | *** join/#debian cruul (~cruul@31-209-243-125.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
| 09:02.18 | *** join/#debian p0g0 (~pogo@unaffiliated/p0g0) |
| 09:02.37 | *** join/#debian TriJetScud (~TriJetScu@d216-232-208-44.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 09:03.11 | *** join/#debian Shirakawasuna (~Shirakawa@184-77-202-94.war.clearwire-wmx.net) |
| 09:03.35 | mapf | i select all 400 packages to reinstall and going to sleep. I'm hope when i woke up my system will work fine and goddamn nvidia motherfuckers go to hell |
| 09:04.02 | *** join/#debian DeusEx (~DeusEx@151.95.81.45) |
| 09:04.02 | *** join/#debian DeusEx (~DeusEx@unaffiliated/deusex) |
| 09:04.52 | *** join/#debian tspx (~tspx@i577BD0D8.versanet.de) |
| 09:04.59 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 09:06.34 | *** join/#debian Guest46216 (~hrmmm@freiwuppertal.de) |
| 09:06.53 | *** join/#debian pats_Toms (~pats_Toms@78.84.194.143) |
| 09:06.57 | *** join/#debian Walex2 (~Walex@92.40.231.163.threembb.co.uk) |
| 09:07.40 | *** join/#debian Ergo^ (~ergo@hyp-p-107.pabianice.msk.pl) |
| 09:09.09 | *** join/#debian JohnnyL (~chatzilla@ool-457ac90a.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 09:10.05 | *** join/#debian kain88 (~kain88@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de) |
| 09:11.16 | JohnnyL | wow, debian with gnome is pretty slick |
| 09:11.22 | *** join/#debian _Qman (~Qman@213.177.160.238) |
| 09:12.57 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 09:12.57 | *** join/#debian kyrix (~ashley@chello084113001032.15.14.vie.surfer.at) |
| 09:13.55 | *** join/#debian bst_ (~bst@178.115.249.117.wireless.dyn.drei.com) |
| 09:14.08 | *** join/#debian iorivur (~quassel@2001:200:0:7c0a:21f:e1ff:fec9:d838) |
| 09:14.37 | *** join/#debian ShaggyTwoDope (~shaggytwo@c-71-197-99-109.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 09:15.04 | *** join/#debian Mitts (~timo@MEN-AI2-141-039.wcta.net) |
| 09:16.09 | *** join/#debian r1PPer (~1@91.207.72.11) |
| 09:17.22 | JohnnyL | albeit opengl is a bit slower. |
| 09:17.31 | *** join/#debian Walex2 (~Walex@92.40.231.163.threembb.co.uk) |
| 09:17.36 | *** join/#debian skyred (~skyred@drupal.org/user/228712/view) |
| 09:17.55 | skyred | useradd stopped prompting password, how to turn it back on |
| 09:18.45 | petemc | skyred: do you want adduser? |
| 09:19.30 | skyred | petemc, that explains!!! Thanks |
| 09:19.39 | JohnnyL | why doesn't wheezy have a install-network disk set? |
| 09:20.59 | wols_ | what would that be exactly? |
| 09:21.34 | Posterdati | hi |
| 09:21.38 | *** join/#debian alfredigno (~alfredign@host251-84-dynamic.37-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 09:21.46 | *** part/#debian alfredigno (~alfredign@host251-84-dynamic.37-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 09:21.54 | *** join/#debian redax (redax@r6.hu) |
| 09:22.02 | *** join/#debian olegfusion (~olegfusio@46.191.225.38) |
| 09:22.12 | Posterdati | please I'm trying to work with qtcreator under wheezy, but it freezes when I try to navigate sources or open a .ui file |
| 09:22.13 | barfod | JohnnyL: it is in its "testing" stage. There arent any install images until it becomes "stable" |
| 09:22.25 | Posterdati | any suggestions? |
| 09:22.25 | JohnnyL | barfod: ah ok |
| 09:22.43 | *** join/#debian Walex2 (~Walex@92.40.231.163.threembb.co.uk) |
| 09:22.45 | *** join/#debian cra1g321 (~cra1g321@host31-52-18-227.range31-52.btcentralplus.com) |
| 09:22.48 | JohnnyL | bb another time |
| 09:23.30 | *** join/#debian slipper (~slipper@nyc.drifty.se) |
| 09:23.53 | *** join/#debian bux (~quassel@pc16321.Pharmazie.Uni-Marburg.DE) |
| 09:23.56 | *** part/#debian tspx (~tspx@i577BD0D8.versanet.de) |
| 09:25.39 | *** join/#debian detha (~detha@196.41.3.188) |
| 09:25.59 | *** join/#debian tspx (~tspx@i577BD0D8.versanet.de) |
| 09:26.23 | *** part/#debian tsxwq (~tspx@i577BD0D8.versanet.de) |
| 09:26.45 | barfod | are things like this "library" /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-486/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/* part of the linux kernel? or are these conventional libraries |
| 09:27.39 | *** join/#debian xbanux1 (~hamkane@115.254.75.113) |
| 09:28.01 | barfod | Are these my activated kernel modules then, or perhaps I am a bit mixed up.. :P |
| 09:28.05 | *** join/#debian dobalina (~dobalina@ANantes-259-1-204-124.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 09:30.10 | *** join/#debian tspx (~tspx@i577BD0D8.versanet.de) |
| 09:30.51 | *** join/#debian Rosha (~rosha@37.254.206.44) |
| 09:31.06 | *** join/#debian eni23 (~eni@227-241.194-178.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 09:31.41 | *** part/#debian eni23 (~eni@227-241.194-178.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 09:31.46 | *** join/#debian alfredigno (~alfredign@host251-84-dynamic.37-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 09:32.10 | *** part/#debian alfredigno (~alfredign@host251-84-dynamic.37-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 09:32.29 | *** join/#debian meowagism (~fnordistu@77-56-158-117.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 09:32.34 | meowagism | hi |
| 09:32.57 | *** join/#debian mastro__ (~mastro@2-229-44-241.ip195.fastwebnet.it) |
| 09:33.03 | meowagism | i got a problem with my mdadm it said 2 drives are missing but they are visible |
| 09:34.20 | ChrisH | meowagism: can we start with pastebin cat /proc/mdstat and blkid on the devicefiles in question? |
| 09:34.39 | meowagism | ok |
| 09:35.49 | *** join/#debian tommy_e (~tommy@81.27.221.202) |
| 09:36.35 | *** join/#debian e-anima (~eanima@p5DD8FA2C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:37.26 | *** join/#debian gsmer (~gsmer@5.0.44.230) |
| 09:37.40 | *** join/#debian pawelkrzywicki (~quassel@62-50-207-47.client.stsn.net) |
| 09:39.20 | meowagism | http://pastebin.com/yPxG1YAj |
| 09:39.22 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 09:39.30 | *** join/#debian sx9_ (~quassel@c-50-131-106-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 09:39.38 | *** join/#debian sphenxes (~sphenxes@91-119-193-41.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 09:39.43 | *** join/#debian gsmer_ (~gsmer@5.0.44.230) |
| 09:39.54 | gsmer_ | s |
| 09:40.05 | *** join/#debian useall (~lb@2001:0:53aa:64c:3028:2f05:b09d:f7f3) |
| 09:41.16 | *** join/#debian sphenxes (~sphenxes@91-119-193-41.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 09:41.17 | *** join/#debian Walex (~Walex@92.40.100.134.threembb.co.uk) |
| 09:41.34 | *** join/#debian Rosha (~rosha@37.254.206.44) |
| 09:41.45 | *** join/#debian uNIXplumber (~uNIXplumb@ultimedia-linux.org) |
| 09:42.32 | *** join/#debian mwargh (~sistemshi@unaffiliated/mwargh) |
| 09:42.44 | *** join/#debian RipresaT1cn (~matthew@host-69-145-41-187.csp-wy.client.bresnan.net) |
| 09:43.28 | *** join/#debian WaqarAzeem (~waqarazee@125.209.101.206) |
| 09:43.45 | *** join/#debian geenna (~geenna@host169-110-dynamic.26-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 09:44.17 | *** join/#debian abailarri (~abailarri@90.168.96.248) |
| 09:44.25 | *** join/#debian UMBRELA (~root@189-73-84-222.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 09:44.29 | meowagism | i tried to assemble the raid using the propriate disks but it didn't |
| 09:44.53 | *** join/#debian sveva65 (~sverre@unaffiliated/sveva65) |
| 09:45.34 | abailarri | I have recently installed debian wheezy. On my laptop I have a sd card reader, but does not recognize them. I have to install a package for it? |
| 09:45.42 | *** join/#debian proller (~proller@dhcp231-60-red.yandex.net) |
| 09:45.49 | *** join/#debian abchirk_ (~abchirk@g225124134.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 09:46.11 | *** join/#debian RoozbehOnline (~rosha@37.254.202.219) |
| 09:46.48 | mwargh | abailarri: show your dmesg |
| 09:48.04 | abailarri | mwargh, I saw this line several times: [72335.305213] end_request: critical target error, dev sdb, sector 0 |
| 09:49.08 | mwargh | what's you notebook? have you checke hw compatibility list? |
| 09:49.17 | ChrisH | meowagism: looks OK so far... pastebin mdadm --detail /dev/md? |
| 09:49.30 | *** join/#debian nodiscc (~baron@pir44-3-88-165-23-157.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 09:49.38 | *** join/#debian afuentes (~afuentes@213.229.171.229) |
| 09:49.43 | meowagism | ok |
| 09:50.38 | *** join/#debian Walex2_ (~Walex@92.40.100.134.threembb.co.uk) |
| 09:51.59 | meowagism | http://pastebin.com/mJkyaJwe |
| 09:52.22 | *** join/#debian kyrix (~ashley@85-126-76-82.work.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 09:53.40 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1233] by debhelper |
| 09:54.48 | *** join/#debian Rosha (~rosha@37.254.202.219) |
| 09:56.24 | *** join/#debian davi (davi@wilbur.25thandclement.com) |
| 09:56.24 | *** join/#debian davi (davi@gnu/davi) |
| 09:56.54 | pats_Toms | hi, why screen is logging only in 10 seconds/ |
| 09:57.17 | *** join/#debian trashman (~bambam@a81-14-225-240.net-htp.de) |
| 09:58.15 | *** join/#debian Rosha (~rosha@37.254.202.219) |
| 09:58.17 | *** join/#debian nixoeen (~nixoeen@gb075.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) |
| 09:58.17 | *** join/#debian nixoeen (~nixoeen@unaffiliated/nixoeen) |
| 09:58.44 | meowagism | do you think i should use force to assemble the raid? |
| 09:59.32 | *** join/#debian Agiofws (~agiofws@athedsl-429985.home.otenet.gr) |
| 09:59.57 | ChrisH | meowagism: once more please, use the ? this time please |
| 10:00.01 | *** join/#debian kyrix (~ashley@85-126-76-82.work.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 10:01.04 | *** join/#debian bjelleklang (~chris@wikipedia/Bjelleklang) |
| 10:02.36 | *** join/#debian mastroWork (~mastro@2-229-44-241.ip195.fastwebnet.it) |
| 10:02.42 | *** join/#debian ShaggyTwoDope (~shaggytwo@c-71-197-99-109.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 10:02.49 | *** join/#debian oy-tablet (~oy@g225209192.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 10:02.52 | *** join/#debian FilipeMaia (~filipe@sb-fw.bmc.uu.se) |
| 10:04.25 | *** join/#debian scourgen (~scourgen@180.166.43.146) |
| 10:06.05 | *** join/#debian Rosha (~rosha@37.254.202.219) |
| 10:07.36 | *** join/#debian RipresaT1cn (~matthew@host-69-145-41-187.csp-wy.client.bresnan.net) |
| 10:08.15 | *** join/#debian DURgod (~DURgod@2001:470:1f11:e4d:70dc:4bd8:afe0:3028) |
| 10:09.41 | *** join/#debian nixoeen (~nixoeen@unaffiliated/nixoeen) |
| 10:10.35 | *** join/#debian jiphex (~james@desk1.tur.bytemark.co.uk) |
| 10:11.32 | meowagism | brb |
| 10:12.46 | *** join/#debian a1|away (~jelle1@62.27.85.48) |
| 10:13.33 | *** join/#debian Rosha (~rosha@37.254.202.219) |
| 10:13.34 | *** join/#debian obli-AWAY (~abyss1@62.27.85.48) |
| 10:15.25 | *** join/#debian bartavelle (~bartavell@sd-27156.dedibox.fr) |
| 10:18.38 | *** join/#debian nachos (~nachos@CPE-121-214-29-85.lnse3.win.bigpond.net.au) |
| 10:19.35 | nachos | Why would the packages for the NVIDIA drivers from nvidia cause crashes in Xorg but the debian wheezy packages seem fine? |
| 10:19.42 | nachos | I can't see the difference in libs and packages? |
| 10:20.12 | bartavelle | is it possible to package a binary without creating a "source distribution" of it, nor being able to repackage it with "apt-get build-dep xxx && apt-get source xxx && dpkg-buildpackage xxx" ? |
| 10:20.22 | wols_ | cause they are not made for debian at all. and we don't support them. ask nvidia why their stuff doesn't work |
| 10:20.38 | bartavelle | (the reason is that it is a haskell program, and the packaged ghc/libraries are too old) |
| 10:21.05 | wols_ | bartavelle: what do you really want to do? |
| 10:21.12 | bartavelle | package my haskell program |
| 10:21.17 | wols_ | you need the sources to create the deb. one way or the other |
| 10:21.18 | nachos | wols_: but why doesn't it work? it makes no sense, nvidia release a 'stable' driver and it's shit. |
| 10:21.37 | wols_ | nachos: ask nvidia.com, NOT us. we don't support their software. we only support what you can get via debian.org |
| 10:21.59 | nachos | okay wols_, is the nvidia drivers STABLE in wheezy? so no unexpected crashes? |
| 10:22.12 | nachos | the nvidia.com drivers will crash atleast once every half an hour |
| 10:22.20 | bartavelle | wols_, I have the source in my git |
| 10:22.25 | *** join/#debian Sm0kEz (~Sm0kEz@95.147.119.229) |
| 10:22.35 | *** join/#debian Rosha (~rosha@37.254.202.219) |
| 10:22.51 | *** join/#debian paule29 (~Paul@l37-192-48-5.novotelecom.ru) |
| 10:23.07 | bartavelle | basically I'd like to create a tar.gz with 2 binaries, but that would work with apt-get for easy distribution |
| 10:23.16 | wols_ | bartavelle: dpkg-buildpackage doesn't create source packages by default IIRC. so why do you ask? |
| 10:23.37 | wols_ | just create a deb. easier for you and your users |
| 10:23.40 | bartavelle | it seems that all tutorials use debian helpers, which seems to create it |
| 10:23.47 | bartavelle | or need it |
| 10:24.05 | bartavelle | I'd like to find a very basic explanation on how to do it without using helpers |
| 10:24.10 | *** join/#debian desti_T2 (~desti@dslb-092-072-212-168.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 10:24.22 | wols_ | take a normal haskell program and modify its debian/ to suit your needs. make sure the dependencies list the right haskell libs and run dpkg-buildpackage on it |
| 10:24.36 | bartavelle | not good for me |
| 10:24.41 | wols_ | why not? |
| 10:24.50 | bartavelle | "normal" haskell programs use dependencies from packaged haskell libraries |
| 10:24.57 | bartavelle | they are way too old and/or buggy |
| 10:25.27 | wols_ | if they are too old you will need to ship the libs with your binary, rather compile your binary statically |
| 10:25.37 | bartavelle | ghc compiles statically by default |
| 10:25.49 | bartavelle | it only recently included dynamic libraries |
| 10:25.53 | wols_ | then compile statically and remove dependencies to all the libs you compiled in statically |
| 10:25.55 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 10:26.13 | bartavelle | I will check a "normal" haskell program, that is good advice, thanks |
| 10:26.14 | wols_ | so none of those pesky ancient libs are anywhere near you shiny new programs |
| 10:26.24 | wols_ | just remove the dependencies to the libs you compile in |
| 10:26.28 | *** join/#debian diroots (~diroots@109.94.35.230) |
| 10:28.13 | *** join/#debian sexyshape (~sexyshape@AAnnecy-551-1-184-57.w90-36.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:29.17 | *** join/#debian orolin (~orolin@cF474BF51.dhcp.as2116.net) |
| 10:30.21 | *** join/#debian Rosha (~rosha@37.254.202.219) |
| 10:31.02 | *** join/#debian stlifey (~stlifey@112.96.100.38) |
| 10:31.09 | *** join/#debian Supernova (~EyesIsMin@WiseOS/Founder/EyesIsMine) |
| 10:31.58 | *** join/#debian firecode (~irc@unaffiliated/firecode) |
| 10:32.27 | *** part/#debian ohcibi_ (~ohcibi@2a01:4f8:140:41e1::4) |
| 10:32.30 | *** join/#debian meowagism (~fnordistu@77-56-158-117.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 10:32.39 | *** join/#debian p014k (~p014k@c-71-205-151-112.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 10:32.39 | *** join/#debian p014k (~p014k@unaffiliated/p014k) |
| 10:35.23 | *** join/#debian ohcibi (~ohcibi@2a01:4f8:140:41e1::4) |
| 10:36.56 | *** join/#debian Rosha (~rosha@37.254.202.219) |
| 10:39.34 | *** join/#debian EyesIsMine (~Eyes@WiseOS/Founder/EyesIsMine) |
| 10:41.23 | *** join/#debian sv0 (~sv@194.146.137.42) |
| 10:41.24 | *** join/#debian mwargh (~mwargh@unaffiliated/mwargh) |
| 10:41.27 | *** join/#debian Rosha (~rosha@37.254.202.219) |
| 10:41.27 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~Tom@p5DDFD921.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:41.44 | *** join/#debian b1g1r0n (~b1g1r0n@c-24-3-136-14.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 10:42.00 | *** join/#debian tonetto (~tonetto@cisne-cn10.upc.es) |
| 10:42.34 | *** part/#debian bartavelle (~bartavell@sd-27156.dedibox.fr) |
| 10:43.57 | *** join/#debian dreimark (~rbauer@test.moinmo.in) |
| 10:44.24 | dreimark | where did i get a newer qemu-img for debian squeeze |
| 10:44.38 | dreimark | i need the resize option |
| 10:45.11 | *** join/#debian gsmer (~gsmer@178.253.66.193) |
| 10:45.36 | *** join/#debian RipresaTecn (~matthew@unaffiliated/ripresatecn) |
| 10:45.59 | *** join/#debian wleslie (~verte@python/site-packages/verte) |
| 10:47.02 | *** join/#debian Walzmyn (~quassel@50.96.92.54) |
| 10:47.28 | *** join/#debian erikja (~erikja@188.182.120.95) |
| 10:48.27 | *** join/#debian Rosha (~rosha@37.254.202.219) |
| 10:49.17 | *** join/#debian pawelkrzywicki_ (~quassel@62-50-207-69.client.stsn.net) |
| 10:50.18 | *** join/#debian starius1 (~starius@37.190.62.39) |
| 10:50.24 | *** join/#debian adam8157 (~adam@unaffiliated/adam8157) |
| 10:50.49 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 10:51.44 | *** join/#debian Deathvalley122 (~Patrick@volumedrive.eagleits.net) |
| 10:53.57 | *** join/#debian pats_Toms (~pats_Toms@78.84.194.143) |
| 10:54.10 | *** join/#debian gsmer_ (~gsmer@178.253.66.193) |
| 10:54.12 | *** join/#debian s1gk1ll (~naomoreir@bl6-215-64.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 10:54.25 | *** join/#debian suka_slayer (~suka_slay@58.168.98.212.helpdesk.by) |
| 10:55.23 | *** join/#debian tm (~tm@2a03:2900:2:1::b8) |
| 10:56.19 | *** join/#debian pikudoz (~pikudoz@190.43.8.75) |
| 10:56.33 | *** join/#debian Defaultti (defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi) |
| 10:57.26 | *** join/#debian debsan_ (~debsan@16-74-245-190.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 10:59.20 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 11:01.19 | *** join/#debian fisted (~fisted@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 11:01.40 | *** join/#debian kakashi_ (~kakashi_@nltk/kakashi) |
| 11:02.34 | *** join/#debian oy-tablet (~oy@g225209192.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 11:03.31 | *** join/#debian totte (~totte@unaffiliated/totte) |
| 11:04.30 | *** join/#debian chatsiri_ (~chatsiri_@kuwin-132-199.kuwin.ku.ac.th) |
| 11:04.45 | *** join/#debian movl (~arares@89.47.83.116) |
| 11:04.46 | *** join/#debian movl (~arares@unaffiliated/movl) |
| 11:05.57 | *** join/#debian nixoeen (~nixoeen@gb075.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) |
| 11:05.57 | *** join/#debian nixoeen (~nixoeen@unaffiliated/nixoeen) |
| 11:06.12 | *** join/#debian caravel_ (~caravel@83.230.147.13) |
| 11:06.50 | *** join/#debian Mmike (~msplival@cpe-188-129-106-110.dynamic.amis.hr) |
| 11:08.34 | *** join/#debian ghenry (~ghenry@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/ghenry) |
| 11:08.49 | *** join/#debian habsor (~habsor@snf-11049.vm.okeanos.grnet.gr) |
| 11:09.38 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 11:09.40 | *** join/#debian mastro__ (~mastro@2-229-44-241.ip195.fastwebnet.it) |
| 11:09.41 | *** join/#debian wleslie (~verte@python/site-packages/verte) |
| 11:10.24 | *** join/#debian Knaldgas (~pdj@dce.dongenergy.dk) |
| 11:10.26 | *** join/#debian SPF (~spf@109.237.208.181) |
| 11:11.06 | *** join/#debian pbn (~pbn@wopr.geekshells.org) |
| 11:11.11 | *** join/#debian bouduccas (~sharon@host-92-20-142-152.as13285.net) |
| 11:11.34 | *** join/#debian gazzwi86 (~gazzwi86@213.83.114.162) |
| 11:12.45 | bouduccas | hi, is there some problem with gdm3 in wheezy please? i've tried 4 installations of it over the last 24 hours and its always failed at just when the gdm3 greeter should start. so now i want to try the wheezy beta net installer, but what the url for getting it please? |
| 11:13.07 | *** join/#debian Gerben_ (~Gerben@62.132.92.10) |
| 11:13.29 | *** join/#debian MIOW (~miow@109.172.15.19) |
| 11:13.41 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1240] by debhelper |
| 11:13.53 | wleslie | nevyn: just thought I'd let you know after last night - what I had in my thinkpad was a cs4297 codec, which required a firmware blob. works fine now. |
| 11:14.23 | *** join/#debian kacper (kacper@monki.us) |
| 11:15.04 | *** join/#debian ehbello (~quassel@chancho.osl.ull.es) |
| 11:15.14 | *** part/#debian habsor (~habsor@snf-11049.vm.okeanos.grnet.gr) |
| 11:15.14 | *** join/#debian fiacha (bcc0f982@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.192.249.130) |
| 11:15.19 | *** join/#debian jareth_ (~X@a83-161-152-176.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 11:15.37 | babilen | bouduccas: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/wheezy_di_beta4/ (sounds like a graphic card driver/firmware problem though) |
| 11:16.35 | *** join/#debian adb (~IonMoldom@178-211-235-11.dhcp.voenergies.net) |
| 11:16.37 | *** join/#debian iCarly (~thomas@p4FC2DA35.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:16.45 | bouduccas | well its worked okay until i got a file system corrupted yetserday so i had to reinstall. could have been an update coming down the pipe that broke things though |
| 11:17.01 | bouduccas | thanks for the url babilen |
| 11:17.06 | *** join/#debian woodgrain (~woodgrain@pool-108-16-103-101.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 11:17.17 | babilen | np |
| 11:17.23 | *** join/#debian diroots_ (~diroots@109.94.35.230) |
| 11:18.19 | *** join/#debian Internet13 (~chatzilla@cpc26-croy20-2-0-cust25.19-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 11:18.43 | *** join/#debian oufo (~ET@188.4.210.104.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 11:18.45 | *** join/#debian msantana (~msantana@unaffiliated/darkstar) |
| 11:19.19 | fiacha | Hi, I am trying to get a lun via fc on squeeze. I have set up the fc zones and the lun and instaled multipath-tools. multipath -l shows: http://pastebin.com/afe4xvVq ... what do i do now to have one mount device with fail over? |
| 11:19.23 | *** join/#debian hasp (~hspencer@209-6-90-172.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com) |
| 11:21.48 | fiacha | in windows it would just show up as one hard drive in disk manager... i'm new to linux and the howto's that i found don't work since paths and files are wrong :( |
| 11:22.09 | ChrisH | fiacha: I never used Multipathing on Linux, but from other UNIX System failover is done in lower levels. lower then the dm-5 yoz showed. |
| 11:22.10 | *** join/#debian blackness (black@blackmajic.org) |
| 11:22.21 | *** join/#debian pbn (pbn@wopr.geekshells.org) |
| 11:22.34 | *** join/#debian sebuba (~sebuba@unaffiliated/sebuba) |
| 11:22.43 | ChrisH | fiacha: please run blkid /dev/dm-5 |
| 11:23.19 | fiacha | ChrisH: ok, nothing was printed to console |
| 11:23.26 | *** join/#debian kaosu (~kaosu@host-173-225-4-174.madisoncounty.net) |
| 11:23.28 | fiacha | i mean it finished but no output |
| 11:23.41 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1248] by debhelper |
| 11:24.16 | *** join/#debian archetech (~noota2@108-203-131-124.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 11:24.34 | *** join/#debian Slydder (~chuck@31-16-80-180-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 11:24.59 | ChrisH | fiacha: your paste shows failed on lines 4,5 and 7,8 |
| 11:25.11 | *** join/#debian InformatiQ (~rhanna@Maemo/Nokia/InformatiQ) |
| 11:25.46 | fiacha | ChrisH: that would be all of then :( only 4 paths via two qlogic hba's ) |
| 11:25.51 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 11:26.03 | *** join/#debian i42n (~i42n@dslb-188-104-210-204.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 11:26.05 | *** part/#debian InformatiQ (~rhanna@Maemo/Nokia/InformatiQ) |
| 11:26.43 | *** join/#debian berserkr (~david@212.122.105.187.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 11:26.58 | pats_Toms | is there someone who know something about how screen is logging terminal? |
| 11:27.51 | pats_Toms | now it updates logs on screenlog one time per about 10 seconds |
| 11:28.03 | pats_Toms | is there any way to config that time? :/ |
| 11:28.25 | ChrisH | fiacha: check https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/multipath-admin-and-troubleshooting.html to see some example output, should look different. |
| 11:28.36 | *** join/#debian aguitel (~aguitel@200.3.190.85) |
| 11:28.56 | *** join/#debian clopez (~clopez@242.17.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 11:29.43 | *** join/#debian xtz9 (xtz9@109.227.10.151) |
| 11:30.31 | *** join/#debian m0t (~m0t@unaffiliated/m0t) |
| 11:30.48 | *** join/#debian munar (~munar@117.Red-83-33-85.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 11:31.37 | *** join/#debian fiacha (bcc0f982@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.192.249.130) |
| 11:32.30 | munar | Hi. I've just installed Debian, but the console font is very small, tiny. Can I configure it to have the same size as it had during installation? |
| 11:33.02 | fiacha | ChrisH: sorry i lost connection, i saw nohing after i posted my last line about the storage system showing it as connected and the hba's showing link up full speed via leds. What am i missing? |
| 11:33.09 | *** join/#debian Tree_Hugger (~Tree_Hugg@65-128-26-215.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 11:33.25 | ChrisH | fiacha: check https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/multipath-admin-and-troubleshooting.html to see some example output, should look different. |
| 11:34.05 | *** join/#debian Lartza (lartza@unaffiliated/lartza) |
| 11:34.22 | fiacha | ChrisH: thank you! Checking it out now |
| 11:36.41 | *** join/#debian achadwick (~achadwick@nat-alpha.ceu.ox.ac.uk) |
| 11:36.42 | *** join/#debian vo1d (~v01d@91-115-231-70.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 11:36.46 | vo1d | hello |
| 11:37.04 | vo1d | how i can i determine how many tcp sockets im able to use if i buy an dedicated server |
| 11:37.11 | vo1d | is there any command for doing so ? |
| 11:37.29 | *** join/#debian martxel (~martxel@187.85-86-50.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) |
| 11:37.32 | vo1d | i read that some hosters restrict the amount of sockets than can be opened up outside |
| 11:37.52 | archetech | you mean ports? |
| 11:38.06 | vo1d | yes |
| 11:38.26 | archetech | have to ask the hoster |
| 11:39.01 | vo1d | so theres no way to check that amount ? lets say open up ports till some error occurs ? |
| 11:39.31 | archetech | could do a port scan from some test site |
| 11:39.34 | *** join/#debian Zill (~roger@cust75-dsl93-89-130.idnet.net) |
| 11:39.49 | *** join/#debian anunakki (~dawg@unaffiliated/anunakki) |
| 11:40.00 | archetech | grc.com type |
| 11:40.08 | vo1d | good idea i will look into this |
| 11:40.12 | *** join/#debian nixoeen (~nixoeen@unaffiliated/nixoeen) |
| 11:40.13 | vo1d | thanks archetech |
| 11:40.16 | archetech | np |
| 11:40.36 | *** join/#debian InformatiQ (~rhanna@Maemo/Nokia/InformatiQ) |
| 11:40.39 | InformatiQ | how do i tell git-buildpackage to put the gerenated bins in ./dist/ and not ../ |
| 11:40.52 | *** join/#debian anunakki (~dawg@unaffiliated/anunakki) |
| 11:41.26 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 11:41.27 | *** join/#debian freaky[t]_ (~alpha@static.139.83.9.176.clients.your-server.de) |
| 11:42.32 | *** join/#debian Cleo (~Cleo@unaffiliated/cleo) |
| 11:43.00 | *** join/#debian poncha (~poncha@unaffiliated/poncha) |
| 11:43.41 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1257] by debhelper |
| 11:44.28 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@16-74-245-190.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 11:44.31 | *** join/#debian kain88 (~kain88@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de) |
| 11:44.34 | *** join/#debian Hotwire (~ed@unaffiliated/hotwire) |
| 11:46.02 | *** join/#debian finkata (~finkata@77.85.252.41) |
| 11:47.38 | Hotwire | Hey guys, I'm trying to backport python-acoustid on to stable from testing. However i end up having to recompile eglibc for multiarch-support, which remakes libc. This is where i get problems, the new libc breaks the old gcc/gcc++, which is needed to compile debhelper. But i cant compile the newer version of gcc because it relies on libc. So i'm in a circular problem basically. Any ideas how i can get around this? |
| 11:48.18 | *** part/#debian dreimark (~rbauer@test.moinmo.in) |
| 11:48.50 | *** join/#debian darsie (~username@91-119-201-32.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 11:49.15 | *** join/#debian msantana` (msantana@192.94.73.30) |
| 11:49.38 | *** join/#debian Hotwire (~ed@nyx.webvictim.net) |
| 11:49.38 | *** join/#debian Hotwire (~ed@unaffiliated/hotwire) |
| 11:49.40 | fiacha | ChrisH: Thanks for the help, from the linked info I wanted to do a rescan but there is no device/rescan under /sys/block/dm-5/ ... anyhow, i just rebooted instead, now it shows: http://pastebin.com/hwQQYxZG .. but i still don't know how to get one mountable device out of that. Othe howto state that there is a multipath.conf but i can't find any under etc.. :( |
| 11:50.06 | *** join/#debian msantana (msantana@unaffiliated/darkstar) |
| 11:50.45 | *** join/#debian ATS63 (dce94bd8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.233.75.216) |
| 11:51.48 | *** join/#debian kakashi_ (~kakashi_@nltk/kakashi) |
| 11:52.39 | *** join/#debian Guest1769 (~slacks@ip-141-31-181-54.nat.selfnet.de) |
| 11:52.42 | *** join/#debian Guest60992 (~BOOYEA@5ED7BD2B.cm-7-8c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 11:55.15 | *** join/#debian nanoha-sama (~nanoha-sa@2001:470:e97f:1003:215:5dff:fe07:4806) |
| 11:55.17 | *** join/#debian Holborn (~holborn@unaffiliated/holborn) |
| 11:55.59 | *** part/#debian InformatiQ (~rhanna@Maemo/Nokia/InformatiQ) |
| 11:56.46 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@16-74-245-190.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 12:00.14 | *** join/#debian tech_ (~tech@204.116.44.212) |
| 12:00.33 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 12:00.41 | fiacha | ChrisH: Ohh.. i think it is just mappe under /dev/mapper/2000b080037002737 .. i just formatted and mounted that.. seems to work :)) thanks for the help!!! |
| 12:00.51 | *** join/#debian fishcooker (~timkubus@125.164.138.118) |
| 12:01.18 | fishcooker | how to disable ping request from other box |
| 12:01.30 | *** join/#debian MoL0ToV (~g@194.105.50.24) |
| 12:02.08 | wols_ | fishcooker: you tell iptables not to respond to ping requests |
| 12:02.22 | wols_ | fishcooker: but why would you do that? |
| 12:02.24 | ksk | which is not a nice practice :> |
| 12:02.44 | *** join/#debian alberto (~alberto@dync-35-161.ac.upc.es) |
| 12:03.15 | *** join/#debian fishcooker1 (~timkubus@125.164.138.118) |
| 12:03.26 | *** join/#debian proller (~proller@dhcp231-60-red.yandex.net) |
| 12:03.59 | *** join/#debian monkeyhybrid (~monkeyhyb@unaffiliated/monkeyhybrid) |
| 12:04.15 | *** join/#debian Asenar (~Asenar@212-198-253-112.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 12:04.39 | *** join/#debian nagarkot (~nagarkot_@224.49.100.220.dy.bbexcite.jp) |
| 12:06.05 | ATS63 | as if its not nice - many consumer internet connections default to block icmp ping :) |
| 12:06.06 | fishcooker1 | how to disable ping request from other box |
| 12:06.09 | *** join/#debian anunakki (~dawg@c-76-118-136-8.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 12:06.09 | *** join/#debian anunakki (~dawg@unaffiliated/anunakki) |
| 12:06.21 | ATS63 | fishcooker1: iptables |
| 12:06.37 | *** join/#debian oy-tablet (~oy@g225209192.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 12:06.38 | *** join/#debian jkfod (~Greg_od@212-178-4-170.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua) |
| 12:06.39 | *** join/#debian jkfod1 (~Greg_od@212-178-4-170.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua) |
| 12:06.44 | *** join/#debian bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@87.Red-83-49-224.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 12:07.05 | fishcooker1 | is iptables also disable nmap abilities to scan the network? |
| 12:07.09 | fishcooker1 | ATS63: |
| 12:07.25 | vo1d | if you want it to be so yes it can fishcooker1 |
| 12:07.59 | vo1d | you can totally unplug your system from outside world with iptables - just drop everything |
| 12:10.21 | *** join/#debian NeSk (~NeSk@ABayonne-157-1-172-103.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 12:10.41 | wols_ | fishcooker1: do you have any system that offers server services to the outside? |
| 12:10.56 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 12:12.24 | *** join/#debian floe (~flo@e177089079.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 12:13.41 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1265] by debhelper |
| 12:13.46 | *** join/#debian grobda24 (~djbarney@silentflame/member/grobda24) |
| 12:15.31 | *** join/#debian adev (~adev@2a02:2770::216:3eff:febe:3d4) |
| 12:15.43 | *** join/#debian noahfx (~noahfx@186.151.82.240) |
| 12:16.04 | *** join/#debian monkeyhybrid (~monkeyhyb@unaffiliated/monkeyhybrid) |
| 12:17.42 | *** join/#debian mastroWork (~mastro@2-229-44-241.ip195.fastwebnet.it) |
| 12:18.32 | fishcooker1 | nop wols_ |
| 12:18.58 | fishcooker1 | i want my box invicible to the network |
| 12:19.25 | vo1d | and you dont want network access ? |
| 12:19.52 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@16-74-245-190.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 12:20.02 | Supernova | fishcooker1, unplug it then |
| 12:20.04 | Supernova | volia |
| 12:20.05 | vo1d | unplug your lan cable :D |
| 12:20.22 | *** join/#debian Cyanure (~Cyanure@2001:660:330f:38:d53:cadb:389a:234a) |
| 12:22.01 | *** join/#debian lloux (~llou@cm-188-171-15-149.telecable.es) |
| 12:23.28 | *** join/#debian shengyao (~shengyao@li408-40.members.linode.com) |
| 12:24.30 | *** join/#debian diniwed (~gavron@ool-ad023327.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 12:25.24 | *** join/#debian mhi1 (~mhi@pd95b104a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:26.15 | *** join/#debian jirka_on_d (~jirka_on_@gw1.globalcom.cz) |
| 12:27.08 | *** join/#debian Shirakawasuna (~Shirakawa@184-77-202-94.war.clearwire-wmx.net) |
| 12:28.33 | *** join/#debian winsen (~winsen@pas75-4-88-176-17-102.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 12:28.36 | *** join/#debian asulil (~winsen@pas75-4-88-176-17-102.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 12:28.41 | *** join/#debian shengyao (~shengyao@li408-40.members.linode.com) |
| 12:29.16 | *** join/#debian chaiz (~chaiz@ppp-124-121-6-154.revip2.asianet.co.th) |
| 12:31.20 | *** join/#debian troller (~proller@194.190.106.57) |
| 12:33.06 | neon__ | any one know how to make old computer network boot? |
| 12:33.58 | diverdude | neon__, start it up? |
| 12:34.07 | *** join/#debian rodrigods (~rodrigods@177.98.213.253) |
| 12:34.07 | *** join/#debian rodrigods (~rodrigods@unaffiliated/rodrigods) |
| 12:34.13 | *** join/#debian jkfod (~Greg_od@37.203.8.12) |
| 12:34.16 | *** join/#debian jkfod1 (~Greg_od@37.203.8.12) |
| 12:34.35 | neon__ | diverdude, it dont even try to netboot |
| 12:35.22 | neon__ | diverdude, I set in bios int18, I put nic with net rom |
| 12:35.30 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 12:35.46 | *** join/#debian tjiggi_fo (~grumpy@c-50-138-47-168.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 12:37.43 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@233.58.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 12:38.12 | *** join/#debian fishcooker (~timkubus@125.164.138.118) |
| 12:38.44 | ChrisH | fiacha: Your welcome. I strongly recommend to test the multipathing before taking it to production, by unplugging cables while having load on the lines. |
| 12:42.16 | *** join/#debian pbn (pbn@wopr.geekshells.org) |
| 12:42.59 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 12:43.29 | *** join/#debian flash_ (~digdilem_@work.mareandfoal.org) |
| 12:43.44 | *** join/#debian Gottaname (~Gottaname@bb115-66-42-6.singnet.com.sg) |
| 12:44.10 | *** join/#debian shengyao (~shengyao@li408-40.members.linode.com) |
| 12:44.49 | *** join/#debian MoL0ToV (~g@194.105.50.24) |
| 12:45.05 | *** join/#debian oskar- (~oskar---@f050067092.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 12:46.56 | *** join/#debian fishcooker1 (~timkubus@125.164.138.118) |
| 12:47.18 | *** join/#debian fedesilva (~fedesilva@r186-54-222-70.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 12:48.22 | *** join/#debian safejav (~safejav@200.127.93.162) |
| 12:48.56 | *** join/#debian noahfx_ (~noahfx@186.151.82.240) |
| 12:50.26 | *** join/#debian starius2 (~starius@37.190.62.39) |
| 12:52.05 | *** join/#debian fishcooker (~timkubus@125.164.138.118) |
| 12:55.42 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 12:55.46 | *** join/#debian sakax (~sakax@d8D862498.access.telenet.be) |
| 12:56.29 | *** join/#debian scourgen (~scourgen@58.34.115.69) |
| 12:56.31 | *** join/#debian Yoques (~Yoques@95.169.242.157) |
| 12:56.38 | *** join/#debian Wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 12:57.40 | jelly | debian's kernel has known bugs wrt paths coming back to life |
| 12:57.45 | *** join/#debian PhoenixSTF (~rudi@78.29.132.86) |
| 12:57.46 | *** join/#debian fishcooker1 (~timkubus@125.164.138.118) |
| 12:57.53 | *** join/#debian ACTOR_cam (~actor.ale@host206-97-dynamic.56-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 12:57.57 | *** join/#debian pbn (~pbn@wopr.geekshells.org) |
| 12:58.02 | jelly | for certain storage systems, perhaps |
| 12:58.29 | *** part/#debian ACTOR_cam (~actor.ale@host206-97-dynamic.56-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 12:58.30 | *** join/#debian Slydder (~chuck@31-16-80-180-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 12:58.31 | *** join/#debian pats_Toms (~pats_Toms@78.84.194.143) |
| 12:59.01 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@16-74-245-190.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 12:59.32 | *** join/#debian fedesilva (~fedesilva@r186-54-222-70.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 13:00.41 | *** join/#debian edgar-rft (~GOD@HSI-KBW-091-089-000-047.hsi2.kabelbw.de) |
| 13:02.45 | *** join/#debian buibex (~buibex@193.105.140.131) |
| 13:03.16 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~matrix@client-86-9-226-174.oxfd-bam-1.adsl.virginmedia.com) |
| 13:03.16 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~matrix@unaffiliated/mang0) |
| 13:03.42 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1279] by debhelper |
| 13:04.17 | *** join/#debian fishcooker (~timkubus@125.164.138.118) |
| 13:05.20 | *** join/#debian boozer (~dave@c-24-126-85-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 13:05.21 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 13:05.41 | *** join/#debian NcW (~NcW@190.151.71.226) |
| 13:05.54 | NcW | hola |
| 13:06.10 | NcW | saben conectar audifonos bluetooth |
| 13:06.17 | *** join/#debian chuckharmston (~chuckharm@96-41-253-160.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) |
| 13:06.18 | NcW | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:06.19 | NcW | ? |
| 13:06.23 | *** join/#debian carif (~mcarifio@146-115-180-141.c3-0.wtr-ubr1.sbo-wtr.ma.cable.rcn.com) |
| 13:06.51 | wols_ | !es |
| 13:06.51 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 13:07.02 | NcW | pk |
| 13:08.09 | *** join/#debian fishcooker1 (~timkubus@125.164.138.118) |
| 13:08.55 | *** join/#debian nodiscc (~baron@2a01:e35:8a51:79d0:9510:d19a:f830:4d0c) |
| 13:10.39 | *** join/#debian pbn (pbn@wopr.geekshells.org) |
| 13:12.10 | *** join/#debian fedesilva (~fedesilva@r186-54-222-70.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 13:12.45 | *** join/#debian l0p3n (~l0p3n@unaffiliated/l0p3n) |
| 13:12.59 | *** join/#debian moty66 (~chatzilla@host144-202-static.24-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 13:13.21 | *** join/#debian l0p3n (~l0p3n@unaffiliated/l0p3n) |
| 13:15.03 | *** join/#debian WormFood (~wormfood@120.128.2.189) |
| 13:16.04 | *** join/#debian boven (~boven@85.24.141.138) |
| 13:17.24 | *** join/#debian DeusEx (~DeusEx@151.95.83.53) |
| 13:17.24 | *** join/#debian DeusEx (~DeusEx@unaffiliated/deusex) |
| 13:18.52 | *** join/#debian geekbri (~geekbri@64.80.49.146) |
| 13:19.20 | *** join/#debian macan (~macan@189.125.221.200) |
| 13:19.34 | *** join/#debian fishcooker (~timkubus@125.164.138.118) |
| 13:21.25 | *** join/#debian LU324 (~stuff@nc-71-53-111-43.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 13:21.38 | *** join/#debian WildTux (~WildTux@97.71.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 13:21.45 | *** join/#debian LU324 (~stuff@nc-71-53-111-43.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 13:22.07 | *** join/#debian LU324 (~stuff@nc-71-53-111-43.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 13:22.46 | *** join/#debian proller (~proller@dhcp231-60-red.yandex.net) |
| 13:23.20 | *** join/#debian cortman (~cortman@ubuntu/member/cortman) |
| 13:23.37 | *** join/#debian LU324 (~stuff@nc-71-53-111-43.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 13:23.42 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe (~havoc@92.36.205.139) |
| 13:23.54 | *** join/#debian LU324 (~stuff@nc-71-53-111-43.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 13:24.51 | *** join/#debian nander (~nander@halley.student.utwente.nl) |
| 13:25.15 | nander | Does anyone else experience a black screen when booting after updating? |
| 13:25.27 | diverdude | I have a problem with free space in my root file system and i dont know whats hogging all the space. Is there a way to get some sort of overview of what takes up all the space? |
| 13:25.30 | *** join/#debian Caso (~ridout@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 13:25.30 | nander | (debian testing) |
| 13:27.01 | *** join/#debian spitf1r3 (~quassel@89.200.144.70) |
| 13:27.37 | *** join/#debian iceflatline (~iceflatli@209-23-210-2-ip-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 13:28.03 | JPT | diverdude: cd to / and check with du -sh * |
| 13:28.12 | nander | I get 'no screens found' |
| 13:28.18 | *** join/#debian neon__ (~neon@bzq-79-177-197-48.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 13:28.22 | nander | (when doing startx) |
| 13:28.43 | nkuttler | !tell nander about no screens found |
| 13:28.50 | nander | lspci | grep VGA shows no strange things |
| 13:29.20 | wols_ | nander: what drivers, what vga chip? |
| 13:29.32 | *** join/#debian fishcooker1 (~timkubus@125.164.138.118) |
| 13:29.40 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~DammitJim@99-75-56-77.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 13:29.53 | nander | wols_ AMD Whistler XT (laptop card), fglrx drivers |
| 13:30.17 | wols_ | nander: dpkg -l |grep fglrx |
| 13:31.36 | nander | wols_ what should I be looking for? |
| 13:32.00 | wols_ | nander: any fglrx packages installed, if so which version? |
| 13:32.13 | *** join/#debian philips_ (~philips@2001:4801:7817:72:d4d9:211d:ff10:2b63) |
| 13:32.34 | wols_ | nander: or is the output empty? |
| 13:32.56 | nander | I have fglrx-atieventsd 1:12-6, fglrx-control 1:12-6, fglrx-driver 1:12-6, fglrx-modules-dkms 1:12-6 |
| 13:33.04 | nander | and: glx-alternative-fglrx 0.2.2 |
| 13:33.11 | nander | libfglrx:i386 1:12-6 |
| 13:33.24 | nander | libfglrx-amdxvba1:i386 1:12-6 |
| 13:33.34 | nander | libg11-fglrx-glx:i386 1:12-6 |
| 13:33.36 | nander | That's all |
| 13:33.38 | wols_ | nander: did you download them frm ati? |
| 13:33.43 | wols_ | *from amd.com rather |
| 13:33.48 | nander | I did |
| 13:33.55 | wols_ | then we don't support it |
| 13:33.58 | nander | But they were suddenly gone when I rebooted |
| 13:34.16 | nander | How do I install the free drivers? |
| 13:34.22 | wols_ | yes, that's one of the things that happen when you install non compatible drivers from amd. ask ##fglrx I think |
| 13:34.30 | *** join/#debian adam8157 (~adam@unaffiliated/adam8157) |
| 13:34.43 | wols_ | free drivers or fglrx drivers? both exist in, one in main, other in non-free |
| 13:34.49 | wols_ | and we cannot say how to remove the amd drivers |
| 13:35.01 | *** join/#debian apathor (~apathor@c-24-218-104-106.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 13:35.03 | nander | as in you don't know? |
| 13:35.33 | wols_ | as in: I don't give a fsck |
| 13:35.47 | wols_ | use /msg dpkg radeon and /msg dpkg fglrx |
| 13:36.08 | *** part/#debian apathor (~apathor@c-24-218-104-106.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 13:36.30 | nander | oddly enough I have the free driver installed as well |
| 13:37.03 | wols_ | yes it is, but various files have been overwritten with proprietary amd stuff |
| 13:37.13 | wols_ | and xorg has been configured for fglrx |
| 13:38.27 | nander | It errors ith open /dev/fb0: no such file or directory |
| 13:39.21 | *** part/#debian inf_l00p (~infl00p@ns.infloop.gr) |
| 13:39.23 | wols_ | I told you: we don't support it. ask #ati |
| 13:40.15 | *** join/#debian fender0107401 (~fender010@114.244.46.21) |
| 13:41.17 | *** join/#debian matrix_ (~matrix@client-86-29-107-165.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com) |
| 13:43.55 | *** join/#debian fender0107401 (~fender010@114.244.46.21) |
| 13:45.15 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 13:45.28 | *** join/#debian Jdbye|Laptop (~furry4lif@ti0010a380-dhcp1283.bb.online.no) |
| 13:45.54 | *** join/#debian sacredchao (~chao@gateway/tor-sasl/nike) |
| 13:48.50 | *** join/#debian nse1 (~leo@187.113.120.117) |
| 13:50.51 | *** join/#debian adam8157 (~adam@unaffiliated/adam8157) |
| 13:51.59 | *** join/#debian somethinginteres (~something@ppp29D1.dsl.pacific.net.au) |
| 13:52.23 | somethinginteres | has anyone been able to install the netflix-desktop package successfully? |
| 13:54.17 | *** join/#debian wermel (~wermel@ppp-157-50.26-151.libero.it) |
| 13:54.25 | *** join/#debian chatsiri_ (~chatsiri_@kuwin-132-199.kuwin.ku.ac.th) |
| 13:55.01 | *** join/#debian pmade (~pmade@c-67-172-151-101.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 13:56.13 | nander | somethinginteres - it's just wine packed with the windows files, right? |
| 13:56.36 | *** join/#debian nander (~nander@halley.student.utwente.nl) |
| 13:56.46 | *** join/#debian nander (~nander@tita/team-member/nander) |
| 13:58.00 | *** join/#debian FilipeMaia (~filipe@emp182-60.eduroam.uu.se) |
| 13:58.00 | *** join/#debian sexyshap1 (~sexyshape@AAnnecy-551-1-229-58.w90-41.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 13:59.12 | somethinginteres | nander: that's correct. Wine with a few additional patches and an app that downloads Silverlight (urgh) and Firefox for you. I've moved from Ubuntu yesterday and wanting to get it going on my system again but use the packages from the PPA don't seem to work. |
| 13:59.45 | *** join/#debian rrehbein (~rrehbein@12.148.198.170) |
| 14:02.32 | *** join/#debian oy-tablet_ (~oy@g225209192.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 14:03.29 | *** join/#debian lduros (~user@fsf/member/lduros) |
| 14:03.44 | *** join/#debian munar (~munar@117.Red-83-33-85.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:07.13 | *** join/#debian fender0107401 (~fender010@114.244.46.21) |
| 14:09.08 | *** join/#debian karimb (~kboumedhe@127.195.219.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 14:11.44 | *** join/#debian somethinginteres (~something@ppp29D1.dsl.pacific.net.au) |
| 14:12.01 | *** join/#debian classix (salven@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 14:12.08 | *** join/#debian Greedi (~Greedi@unaffiliated/greedi) |
| 14:12.53 | *** join/#debian JoeAngel_ (~JoeAngel_@114-25-28-110.dynamic.hinet.net) |
| 14:13.42 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1271] by debhelper |
| 14:13.51 | *** join/#debian spleeze (~spleeze@dhcp-memo-2-248-189.rowan.edu) |
| 14:14.16 | *** join/#debian fedesilva (~fedesilva@r186-54-229-131.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 14:15.06 | *** join/#debian mastroWork (~mastro@109.117.140.251) |
| 14:16.23 | *** join/#debian cwillu_at_work (~cwillu@cwillu-1-pt.tunnel.tserv13.ash1.ipv6.he.net) |
| 14:16.45 | *** join/#debian swi (~swi@altlinux/developer/swi) |
| 14:17.01 | swi | Hello |
| 14:17.04 | *** join/#debian carif (~mcarifio@eth3.bismuth.canonical.com) |
| 14:17.49 | *** join/#debian pn0 (~pn0@95-31-214-222.broadband.corbina.ru) |
| 14:18.25 | swi | i have a strange issue with coping file over nfs. it's failed with 'disk quota exceed'. but i do not set up any quotas and quotachk says there is no such a thing too . |
| 14:18.38 | *** join/#debian Ephemeris959 (~binny@199.6.29.254) |
| 14:18.42 | *** join/#debian mastroWork (~mastro@109.117.140.251) |
| 14:19.12 | *** join/#debian sexyshape (~sexyshape@AAnnecy-551-1-189-244.w90-36.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 14:19.55 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 14:21.25 | *** join/#debian spleeze (~spleeze@dhcp-memo-2-248-189.rowan.edu) |
| 14:21.32 | ompaul | swi: df -h the machine pastebin the partition please |
| 14:22.12 | ompaul | swi: that should read |
| 14:22.17 | ompaul | swi: df -h the machine pastebin the partitions involved please |
| 14:22.22 | *** join/#debian mastroWork (~mastro@109.117.140.251) |
| 14:22.26 | swi | ompaul: /dev/md2 364G 177G 169G 52% / |
| 14:22.53 | ompaul | ok that is one partition |
| 14:22.54 | *** join/#debian e66 (~quassel@27.147.181.37) |
| 14:23.17 | ompaul | copying a file from where to where - I take it md2 is not nfs mouted |
| 14:23.29 | *** join/#debian swex (~quassel@178.17.204.209) |
| 14:23.32 | *** join/#debian Leconite (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/leconite) |
| 14:23.41 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1282] by debhelper |
| 14:24.08 | *** join/#debian sezuan (bouncer@irc.scheff32.de) |
| 14:24.11 | *** join/#debian tensorpudding (~tensorpud@108.87.22.198) |
| 14:24.28 | swi | ompaul: i'm coping file from one host to another (where this md2 is) over nfs |
| 14:24.31 | *** join/#debian Projektarbyte (~textual@p5DC5F391.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:24.42 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe (~havoc@92.36.205.139) |
| 14:24.47 | ompaul | swi: you already said that |
| 14:24.57 | ompaul | swi: I have requested information to prevent me guessing |
| 14:25.12 | swi | ompaul: nfs mounted /backups folder on /md2 |
| 14:25.41 | swi | maybe there is some quota in nfs itself ? |
| 14:26.00 | ompaul | swi: ok lets do this the easy way on the machine where the nfs partition is please display the following information in paste.debian.net and I'll ask for more as I need it df -h |
| 14:26.09 | *** part/#debian archetech (~noota2@108-203-131-124.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 14:26.12 | ompaul | swi: the machine where it is mounted |
| 14:27.25 | *** join/#debian curro_ (~curro@238.Red-83-49-213.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:28.09 | *** join/#debian tarix (~tarix@ip-194-8-157-129.opensvit.ua) |
| 14:28.14 | swi | ompaul: obv. it's the same http://dpaste.com/845280/ |
| 14:28.28 | *** join/#debian Deathvalley122 (~Patrick@volumedrive.eagleits.net) |
| 14:29.14 | ompaul | no there is more detail now - where were you copying from |
| 14:29.18 | ompaul | and too |
| 14:29.20 | ompaul | to even |
| 14:29.35 | *** join/#debian sexyshap1 (~sexyshape@AAnnecy-551-1-326-7.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 14:30.18 | ompaul | is the question that hard to understand? |
| 14:30.23 | swi | ompaul: the machine dpasted now from /temp to /remote/old/db |
| 14:31.41 | *** join/#debian floe (~flo@e177089079.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 14:32.13 | ompaul | so you tried to copy from /temp into /remote/old which is mounted over nfs - as I see it |
| 14:32.20 | swi | yep |
| 14:32.24 | ompaul | what is du -h /temp |
| 14:32.28 | ompaul | total |
| 14:32.40 | swi | 111M |
| 14:32.49 | ompaul | small files at a guess |
| 14:32.52 | swi | yep |
| 14:33.09 | swi | and when it was a little smaller not 'disk quotas' appear |
| 14:33.13 | swi | no* |
| 14:33.24 | ompaul | are you using tar |
| 14:33.31 | swi | zip |
| 14:33.35 | ompaul | ah |
| 14:33.35 | swi | there is zip file |
| 14:33.48 | ompaul | try rsync |
| 14:34.11 | ompaul | rsync -av /temp/whatever /remote/old/db/whatever |
| 14:34.22 | swi | i know how to use rsync, thanks :) |
| 14:34.25 | swi | let's try |
| 14:34.33 | ompaul | you may do but you didn't use it ;-) |
| 14:34.58 | swi | ompaul: i'm using it to sync site folder to the same nfs |
| 14:35.15 | ompaul | ok I'll rephrase |
| 14:35.25 | ompaul | you may do but you didn't use it this time ;-) {now chuckle please} |
| 14:35.26 | swi | never think i need rsync for just one file :) |
| 14:35.58 | ompaul | with the size of the file in one zip I'd suggest you hit some nfs limiting size |
| 14:36.09 | *** join/#debian scampbell (~scampbell@c-98-224-240-62.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 14:36.10 | swi | i suggest it too |
| 14:36.13 | *** join/#debian danielf (~dlf@r186-49-50-188.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 14:36.35 | swi | yep. rsync copy it successfull |
| 14:36.37 | ompaul | I'm not a genius, I just used the info you gave me. :) |
| 14:36.48 | ompaul | hang on a sec lets try remove that barrier |
| 14:37.06 | swi | ok :) |
| 14:37.19 | swi | trying find out that limit for 2 days |
| 14:39.39 | *** join/#debian TheRedMood (~teodor@ti0056a380-dhcp2641.bb.online.no) |
| 14:39.41 | TheRedMood | Hey. |
| 14:39.42 | ompaul | quota -v gets you wjhat? |
| 14:39.55 | TheRedMood | I want to bridge something, but I can't find any documentation for the new iproute2 command that explains it. |
| 14:40.14 | TheRedMood | I want to bridge traffic from the device tap0 to the real device eth1 |
| 14:40.17 | *** join/#debian DaveR (~The_Pugil@pool-71-254-7-119.burl.east.myfairpoint.net) |
| 14:40.17 | TheRedMood | How would I do that? |
| 14:41.11 | *** join/#debian pawelkrzywicki (~quassel@62-50-207-69.client.stsn.net) |
| 14:41.21 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~matrix@unaffiliated/mang0) |
| 14:41.22 | ompaul | does this help brctl addif eth1 tap0 |
| 14:41.34 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 14:41.40 | TheRedMood | brctl was removed wasen't it? |
| 14:41.42 | mwargh | brctl addbr br0 |
| 14:41.49 | mwargh | aptiude install brctl |
| 14:41.59 | mwargh | brctl addbr br0 tap0 |
| 14:42.03 | mwargh | brctl addbr br0 eth1 |
| 14:42.03 | TheRedMood | ahh :) |
| 14:42.04 | ompaul | swi quota -v gets you wjhat? |
| 14:42.05 | TheRedMood | Thanks :) |
| 14:42.05 | mwargh | something like this |
| 14:43.23 | mwargh | meh i screwed up |
| 14:43.24 | swi | ompaul: where i need this ? on the host from where i'm coping ? |
| 14:43.34 | mwargh | instead of 2 last brctl lines should be |
| 14:43.41 | mwargh | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:43.52 | *** join/#debian Cyanure (~Cyanure@81-65-188-227.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 14:44.01 | ompaul | swi: where the partitions live - so I'd try both |
| 14:44.48 | TheRedMood | mwargh: I need to do it to times? |
| 14:44.51 | TheRedMood | Or ? |
| 14:45.01 | TheRedMood | one for each interface? |
| 14:45.35 | swi | ompaul: quota: error while getting quota from backuphost:/backups_new/ for root (id 0): Connection refused on host _from_ where i need to copy and nothing on the host _where_ i need |
| 14:45.47 | ompaul | swi: ooch |
| 14:47.35 | *** join/#debian Fli-c (~c@133.110.188.90.etth.tomsknet.ru) |
| 14:48.42 | *** join/#debian void (~v01d@193-83-49-20.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 14:49.06 | *** join/#debian DeusEx (~DeusEx@unaffiliated/deusex) |
| 14:49.58 | swi | ompaul: indeed |
| 14:50.02 | *** join/#debian uNIXplumber (~uNIXplumb@ultimedia-linux.org) |
| 14:50.09 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@212-149-192-161.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 14:50.49 | ompaul | swi: theory you may need to umount and restart the server side (theory no more of a gut feeling) |
| 14:50.49 | *** join/#debian Ratty (~Ratty@d27-96-64-139.evv.wideopenwest.com) |
| 14:50.56 | ompaul | some nfs broken stuff I guess |
| 14:51.55 | *** join/#debian _niCe_ (d5a5623c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.165.98.60) |
| 14:51.58 | *** join/#debian Ryushin (proxy@cl-412.phx-01.us.sixxs.net) |
| 14:52.30 | _niCe_ | hi, can someone tell me for what the files in /proc/[some-number] are? |
| 14:52.38 | swi | ompaul: hm. after restarting and remounting cp works well |
| 14:53.02 | ompaul | swi quota -v gets you wjhat? |
| 14:53.14 | swi | ompaul: the same |
| 14:53.22 | ompaul | hmm |
| 14:53.42 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1273] by debhelper |
| 14:53.43 | swi | ompaul: i have option no_root_squash, may be because of this |
| 14:54.05 | shpank | _niCe_: the number is a process id |
| 14:54.23 | somiaj | _niCe_: the some-number is the pid of the process running |
| 14:54.27 | *** join/#debian verxion (~verxion@ip68-106-239-68.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 14:54.33 | verxion | Hello everyone |
| 14:54.40 | verxion | I'm running into an issue with Debian locales |
| 14:54.42 | swi | nope |
| 14:54.52 | verxion | can't seem to do the dpkg-reconfigure locales command |
| 14:54.54 | ompaul | swi: that just means This says share the folder, allow any IP access, give read/write access, and allow the root user to connect as root. |
| 14:54.56 | verxion | perl is complaining about them |
| 14:55.01 | *** join/#debian noahfx_ (~noahfx@186.151.82.240) |
| 14:55.12 | swi | ompaul: i see |
| 14:55.13 | somiaj | verxion: apt-get install locales or dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 14:55.20 | *** join/#debian crypticmofo (~crypticmo@c-24-2-63-9.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 14:55.44 | somiaj | verxion: why can't you dpkg-reconfigure locales? Is it because locales is not installed? Or is the command just doing nothing? |
| 14:55.46 | _niCe_ | shpank, somiaj - thanks :) |
| 14:55.52 | *** join/#debian rodrigods (~rodrigods@177.98.213.253) |
| 14:55.52 | *** join/#debian rodrigods (~rodrigods@unaffiliated/rodrigods) |
| 14:56.25 | verxion | looks like locales wasn't install3d |
| 14:56.30 | swi | ompaul: i need to go. Thanks a lot for 'rync'. I'll try to search about quota -v complaints myself |
| 14:56.35 | *** join/#debian Ticho (~Ticho@unaffiliated/ticho) |
| 14:56.35 | verxion | somiaj: what is the default US locale? |
| 14:57.00 | jelly | verxion: if you chose US in the installer, en_US.UTF-8 |
| 14:57.02 | *** join/#debian _Paul (~Paul@pD9E1CD55.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:57.05 | verxion | en_US ISO-8859-1 ? |
| 14:57.17 | *** join/#debian boudiccas (~boudiccas@unaffiliated/boudiccas) |
| 14:57.17 | verxion | ok, looking for that jelly, thanks |
| 14:57.19 | jelly | nope, the UTF-8 one |
| 14:57.30 | *** join/#debian Amanas (~Amanas@c-174-60-224-218.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 14:57.47 | *** join/#debian Emmanuel_Chanel (emmanuel@ZQ115201.ppp.dion.ne.jp) |
| 14:58.13 | somiaj | verxion: en_US.UTF-8 or en_US (if you don't want UTF8) |
| 14:58.34 | *** join/#debian jamie90234 (~pias00@206.191.57.58) |
| 14:58.51 | *** join/#debian kitajski (~kitaiskii@200.127.95.128) |
| 14:59.02 | boudiccas | i've just installed wheezy and restored my $HOME from backup, except it was saved with root permissions, so how do i change all of /home/$USER to 'users' permissions please? |
| 14:59.09 | *** join/#debian boven (~boven@85.24.141.138) |
| 14:59.29 | *** join/#debian jkfod (~Greg_od@37.203.8.12) |
| 14:59.59 | *** join/#debian cakehero (~cakehero@cpe-74-68-133-215.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 15:00.01 | somiaj | boudiccas: chown -R username.username /home/user |
| 15:00.14 | ompaul | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:00.19 | boudiccas | ah, brilliant thanks |
| 15:00.59 | somiaj | boudiccas: how did you restore you backup? (what command?) |
| 15:01.24 | ompaul | somiaj: I'd guess it was more to do with the backup |
| 15:01.39 | *** join/#debian trinathon (~deans-and@128.187.208.189) |
| 15:01.41 | ompaul | somiaj: you weren't watching yesterday ;-) |
| 15:01.48 | somiaj | ompaul: yea should have asked that, was gonna just mention that cp -a or rsync will save the uid/gid of files. |
| 15:01.58 | ompaul | cp -rp |
| 15:02.00 | somiaj | so as long as they are the same on the new system this won't be an issue |
| 15:03.43 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1279] by debhelper |
| 15:04.17 | *** join/#debian ZH-AK47 (~yaaic@221.11.61.145) |
| 15:04.51 | *** join/#debian vipersniper (~viper@S0106002129c36a75.no.shawcable.net) |
| 15:05.02 | vipersniper | I'm trying to compile a grsec kernel and I get this error http://pastebin.ca/2293192 |
| 15:05.13 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@233.58.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 15:05.36 | *** join/#debian afuentes (~afuentes@95.61.119.171) |
| 15:05.37 | boudiccas | somiaj: i back up using rsync and restore by copying across with 'krusader' |
| 15:06.14 | *** join/#debian bfig (~b_fin_g@r190-134-11-164.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 15:06.17 | ompaul | vipersniper: not read your error point you at this and /msg dpkg grsec /usr/share/doc/linux-patch-grsecurity2/README.Debian |
| 15:06.29 | *** join/#debian rjmt___ (~uid1@46-65-28-90.zone16.bethere.co.uk) |
| 15:06.55 | *** join/#debian edog (~edog@178.172.239.240) |
| 15:07.01 | somiaj | boudiccas: if you would have used rsync both ways and did the -a (archive) flag, it would have kept the file permisions. (only issue here is if the uid of your user changed, but by default the first user is always 1000 in debian) |
| 15:07.46 | *** join/#debian Chelsea (~Chelsea@a82-161-180-155.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 15:07.50 | ChrisH | vipersniper: compiler crashed can be an indication for memory problems. HW problems from CPU Cache to memeory modules |
| 15:08.12 | *** join/#debian bsdgeek (~bsdgeek@91-66-20-106-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 15:09.08 | boudiccas | somiaj: for some reason the rsync backup can only be done by root to my external usb h/d. it stopped working as $USER soon after i started using wheezy some months ago |
| 15:09.15 | *** join/#debian dzup (~dzup@freebsd/user/dzup) |
| 15:09.39 | *** join/#debian macan (~macan@189.125.221.105) |
| 15:10.01 | *** join/#debian iPcjamesy4 (~James@unaffiliated/pcjamesy) |
| 15:10.40 | boudiccas | a fresh install of wheezy and trying to use swriter from libreoffice and it comes back saying that $USER is locked, but i'm unable to find a 'locate libreoffice.lock'. how then can i /unlock/ it then please? |
| 15:12.19 | *** join/#debian firecode (~irc@unaffiliated/firecode) |
| 15:12.38 | *** join/#debian floe (~flo@e177089079.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 15:12.44 | *** join/#debian MoL0ToV (~g@194.105.50.24) |
| 15:12.47 | *** join/#debian nodiscc1 (~baron@2a01:e35:8a51:79d0:b52c:a276:1d63:884b) |
| 15:13.13 | _niCe_ | hi, can someone fine a error in this: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/e70bd729/ - can i restart my network without being disconnected? |
| 15:13.36 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 15:13.51 | *** join/#debian chimay (~chimay@unaffiliated/chimay) |
| 15:14.03 | *** join/#debian g_r_eek (~g_r_eek@173-9-142-122-Miami.FL.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 15:14.47 | *** join/#debian Yonderinz (~timo@MEN-AI2-141-039.wcta.net) |
| 15:14.54 | *** join/#debian hoettr (~e@unaffiliated/hoettr) |
| 15:16.31 | ompaul | _niCe_: think about the question you asked for a moment |
| 15:16.54 | *** join/#debian tomoprime (~tomoprime@ool-1826cbb1.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 15:17.38 | boudiccas | si=orted, the lock file was in ~/config/libreoffice and when delketed i was able to get back again with it |
| 15:17.49 | *** join/#debian LordDeath (~LordDeath@cable-81-173-164-27.netcologne.de) |
| 15:18.09 | *** join/#debian pickcoder (~blah@pdpc/supporter/active/pickcoder) |
| 15:18.31 | _niCe_ | ompaul, there is no change in the ip, it's just being switched from eth0 to br0, so there should only be a short timeout, not a disconnect!? |
| 15:18.54 | *** join/#debian mastro (~mastro@151.64.200.129) |
| 15:20.24 | *** join/#debian MaddinXx (~racksteri@zux221-083-035.adsl.green.ch) |
| 15:21.01 | *** join/#debian crypticmofo (~crypticmo@c-24-2-63-9.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 15:21.25 | ompaul | _niCe_: you are routing packets internally, you may or may not have a recovery position, you may need to assume them |
| 15:21.35 | ompaul | _niCe_: I'd say you will have some downtime |
| 15:22.27 | *** join/#debian allorder (~allorder@unaffiliated/allorder) |
| 15:22.34 | *** join/#debian preds (~preds@64.20.169.115) |
| 15:23.10 | _niCe_ | ompaul, nope, worked out fine :) |
| 15:23.14 | crypticmofo | hi all im thinking of making this old desktop into a file server |
| 15:23.18 | crypticmofo | is debain good for that ? |
| 15:23.20 | *** join/#debian Morten_ (~morten@212.130.47.184) |
| 15:23.27 | *** join/#debian mypapit (~mypapit@60.54.52.139) |
| 15:23.30 | *** join/#debian Dreadtower (~robin@host86-139-51-109.range86-139.btcentralplus.com) |
| 15:23.43 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1289] by debhelper |
| 15:23.47 | *** join/#debian preds (~preds@38.105.162.11) |
| 15:24.20 | *** join/#debian bluenemo (~bluenemo@g226048189.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 15:24.20 | *** join/#debian bluenemo (~bluenemo@unaffiliated/bluenemo) |
| 15:25.31 | *** join/#debian furgle (~pi@host86-169-37-151.range86-169.btcentralplus.com) |
| 15:25.52 | *** join/#debian themill (~stuart@unaffiliated/themill) |
| 15:25.57 | *** join/#debian scatala (~scatala@85.182.158.115) |
| 15:25.59 | cwillu_at_work | can somebody run a quick test for me? In a term, run: python -c '"" % [1]' |
| 15:26.08 | cwillu_at_work | does it raise an exception, or finish without output? |
| 15:26.10 | *** join/#debian kermit (~zip55413@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) |
| 15:26.40 | cwillu_at_work | (or forkbomb, in which case I'm an idiot for posting that with my real name in /whois :p) |
| 15:26.49 | *** join/#debian kain88 (~kain88@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de) |
| 15:26.56 | *** part/#debian scatala (~scatala@85.182.158.115) |
| 15:28.07 | *** join/#debian Jdbye|Laptop (~furry4lif@ti0010a380-dhcp1283.bb.online.no) |
| 15:28.14 | *** join/#debian martxel (~martxel@187.85-86-50.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) |
| 15:28.15 | themill | cwillu_at_work: that should do (and does) nothing |
| 15:28.19 | *** part/#debian stefunel (~stefunel@static.38.162.46.78.clients.your-server.de) |
| 15:28.25 | cwillu_at_work | themill, no, it should raise an exception |
| 15:28.37 | cwillu_at_work | but doesn't on ubuntu, and apparently doesn't on debian either |
| 15:28.45 | themill | why should it? |
| 15:29.08 | cwillu_at_work | it should be equivalent to '' % ([1],) |
| 15:29.11 | cwillu_at_work | which does raise |
| 15:29.13 | themill | are you expecting a "TypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting" ? |
| 15:29.20 | *** join/#debian shengyao (~shengyao@184.107.33.113) |
| 15:29.25 | cwillu_at_work | yes |
| 15:32.11 | *** part/#debian verxion (~verxion@ip68-106-239-68.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 15:32.15 | *** join/#debian starius1 (~starius@37.190.62.39) |
| 15:32.34 | *** join/#debian ron-slc (~Ron@173-165-129-125-utah.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 15:32.51 | *** join/#debian semeion (~semeion@gateway/tor-sasl/semeion) |
| 15:33.31 | *** join/#debian Walex (~Walex@188.31.83.40.threembb.co.uk) |
| 15:33.45 | *** join/#debian Walex2 (~Walex@188.31.83.40.threembb.co.uk) |
| 15:34.55 | *** join/#debian zW (~wesley@spider.pfoe.be) |
| 15:36.00 | *** join/#debian cydork (~cydork@122.172.237.121) |
| 15:36.00 | *** join/#debian cydork (~cydork@unaffiliated/cydork) |
| 15:36.46 | *** join/#debian mr0wl (~quassel@unaffiliated/mr0wl) |
| 15:37.14 | *** join/#debian pawelkrzywicki (~quassel@62-50-207-69.client.stsn.net) |
| 15:37.19 | *** join/#debian Sm0kEz (~Sm0kEz@95.147.119.229) |
| 15:37.27 | *** join/#debian Ricardo__ (~rick@187.107.5.7) |
| 15:37.27 | *** join/#debian Ricardo__ (~rick@unaffiliated/ricardo--/x-7903455) |
| 15:37.32 | *** join/#debian Walex2_ (~Walex@188.31.83.40.threembb.co.uk) |
| 15:38.21 | *** join/#debian Walex (~Walex@188.31.83.40.threembb.co.uk) |
| 15:39.12 | *** join/#debian Suppa_Spic (~SS@187.156.36.217) |
| 15:39.50 | Suppa_Spic | does anyone know why when I enable a daemon (update-rc.d) I get this error: |
| 15:39.52 | Suppa_Spic | update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing |
| 15:39.52 | Suppa_Spic | update-rc.d: error: no runlevel symlinks to modify, aborting! |
| 15:40.07 | Suppa_Spic | I am using the skeleton file :/ |
| 15:40.15 | *** join/#debian nodiscc (~baron@pir44-3-88-165-23-157.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 15:40.55 | *** join/#debian Walzmyn (~quassel@50.96.92.54) |
| 15:40.59 | *** join/#debian khimera (~khimera@rrcs-208-125-3-152.nyc.biz.rr.com) |
| 15:41.11 | *** join/#debian fedesilva (~fedesilva@r186-54-229-131.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 15:42.15 | dh-` | was the daemon disabled before? |
| 15:42.33 | dh-` | Suppa_Spic: ? |
| 15:42.53 | Suppa_Spic | umh nope |
| 15:43.12 | dh-` | Suppa_Spic: then there is nothing to do for it, isn't it? |
| 15:43.35 | Suppa_Spic | Well, what I want to do is run a binary as daemon, does that make sense? |
| 15:43.42 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1295] by debhelper |
| 15:44.29 | dh-` | Suppa_Spic: depends on the binary and the case you use it |
| 15:45.16 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 15:45.37 | zW | Hi. When I login as root my end/home key works. When I login as a chrooted user it does not ... any clue? :) |
| 15:47.06 | *** join/#debian ppradhan (~Adium@nagarkot.ddns.uark.edu) |
| 15:47.45 | *** join/#debian TheRedMood (~teodor@ti0056a380-dhcp2641.bb.online.no) |
| 15:47.48 | TheRedMood | Hey. |
| 15:47.58 | TheRedMood | That bridge command crashed the internets. |
| 15:48.02 | TheRedMood | :/ |
| 15:48.49 | *** part/#debian ppradhan (~Adium@nagarkot.ddns.uark.edu) |
| 15:50.25 | *** join/#debian mg-gm (~Thunderbi@46-65-84-59.zone16.bethere.co.uk) |
| 15:50.27 | *** join/#debian cote (~maravilla@79.108.206.191.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 15:50.28 | cote | http://www.carolinaherrera.com/212/es/areyouonthelist?share=HBwr80bR-2foKDsmH9finK07NzCqnVrcUjgmo98XySnkz4rz3EUUdzs6j6FXsjB4447F-isvxjqkXd4Qey2GHw#episodio-5 |
| 15:51.21 | jhutchins_wk | crypticmofo: Debian is one of the best distributions to use for servers. Only problem is lack of long-term support. |
| 15:51.45 | jhutchins_wk | crypticmofo: It's highly configurable, doesn't make assumptions for you, and the server packages are very high quality. |
| 15:52.06 | mg-gm | Hi all, i have a trouble with the wireshark package, the current version has a bug in it, one before and one after is good, but how i can use safety onather version of any package ? |
| 15:53.08 | *** join/#debian jasonwert (~w3rt@75-134-81-98.static.aldl.mi.charter.com) |
| 15:54.00 | mg-gm | i tried to create the newer .deb package but it's to complicated for me |
| 15:54.50 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@184.63.221.77) |
| 15:54.55 | *** join/#debian jimcooncat (~jim@68-68-224-42.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net) |
| 15:56.02 | *** join/#debian emraan (~emraan@adsl196-16-55-206-196.adsl196-2.iam.net.ma) |
| 15:57.19 | boudiccas | is clamd deprecated in whezy please? i've got clamav installed bu tno clamd, and neither is there a clamd.conf like there was in squeeze so i'm puzzled |
| 15:57.27 | boudiccas | wheezy |
| 15:58.32 | *** join/#debian kriger (~norge@68-190-90-80.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 15:58.48 | wols_ | boudiccas: http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=clamd&mode=path&suite=testing&arch=any clamav-daemon |
| 15:59.03 | *** join/#debian hasdf (~Hasdf@188-192-77-165-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 15:59.08 | *** join/#debian nse1 (~leo@177.158.153.167) |
| 15:59.17 | *** join/#debian Knaldgas (~pdj@31.25.22.218) |
| 15:59.24 | boudiccas | wols_: ah right, thanks |
| 16:00.20 | *** join/#debian geggam (~geggam@108-218-203-180.uvs.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 16:00.39 | *** join/#debian tripleXXX (~bizarro_1@39.Red-88-19-138.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 16:01.41 | *** join/#debian sv0 (~sv@194.146.137.14) |
| 16:01.54 | *** join/#debian trinathon (~deans-and@128.187.208.189) |
| 16:02.05 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@88.233.87.228) |
| 16:02.05 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 16:05.42 | *** join/#debian ^Kimberly^ (kimberly@2607:5300:60:b5e::1) |
| 16:06.23 | *** join/#debian cortman (~cortman@ubuntu/member/cortman) |
| 16:07.43 | *** join/#debian dreamon_ (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 16:08.39 | *** join/#debian hoffi (~hoffi@p4FCA4243.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:09.31 | *** join/#debian M0WGL1 (~androirc@117.231.19.60) |
| 16:10.43 | *** join/#debian afuentes (~afuentes@213.229.171.229) |
| 16:10.50 | *** join/#debian r0tha (~r0tha@76-218-126-126.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 16:10.58 | jelly | I have a lenny installation, with a lenny version of aptitude, and want to mark a custom package as automatically installed, but not remove it right away. Is there a way to do something like "aptitude markauto ia32-libdevmapper1.02.1" but not let aptitude do any interactive questions, and not try to remove things at this point right away? |
| 16:11.03 | *** part/#debian M0WGL1 (~androirc@117.231.19.60) |
| 16:13.37 | *** join/#debian tonetto (~tonetto@cisne-cn07.upc.es) |
| 16:16.54 | *** join/#debian kyrix (~ashley@85-126-76-82.work.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 16:17.40 | *** join/#debian chris_debian (~chris_deb@host86-136-121-39.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) |
| 16:17.44 | themill | cwillu_at_work: hmm... I'd need to think about that some more. I'm not convinced that tuple to dict conversion is as you describe it (but #python would be a better place to talk about this) |
| 16:18.08 | themill | jelly: apt-mark? |
| 16:18.20 | cwillu_at_work | themill, #python is where I came from, mainly needed to verify that debian's behaviour is different than mainline |
| 16:18.27 | cwillu_at_work | (thank you) |
| 16:18.36 | cwillu_at_work | note that I wasn't converting to a dict anywhere |
| 16:18.53 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@63.143.73.33) |
| 16:19.07 | themill | cwillu_at_work: err, list to tuple. |
| 16:19.14 | cwillu_at_work | themill, well, it is :) |
| 16:19.29 | cwillu_at_work | "%s" % [1] == "%s" % ([1],) |
| 16:19.35 | *** part/#debian TheRedMood (~teodor@ti0056a380-dhcp2641.bb.online.no) |
| 16:20.04 | cwillu_at_work | (i.e., the list isn't supposed to be unpacked as if it were a tuple) |
| 16:20.37 | cwillu_at_work | it _seems_ to be acting as if it were an empty tuple though |
| 16:20.52 | cwillu_at_work | "" % () is legal and sane |
| 16:20.53 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 16:21.05 | *** join/#debian kkuet (~curro@62.43.212.78.static.user.ono.com) |
| 16:21.25 | *** join/#debian master_of_master (~master_of@p57B55C4A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:21.36 | *** join/#debian trifolio6 (~h@62.43.62.203.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 16:23.20 | *** join/#debian anunakki (~dawg@unaffiliated/anunakki) |
| 16:24.09 | cwillu_at_work | themill, although apparently at least one report I'm working off is incorrect, so nvm :p |
| 16:24.15 | *** join/#debian macan (~macan@189.125.221.200) |
| 16:24.28 | *** join/#debian lorenzosu (~lorenzosu@vpn4.hotsplots.net) |
| 16:24.39 | *** join/#debian nse1 (~leo@177.98.51.141) |
| 16:24.47 | jelly | themill: it exists in lenny, but fails on import apt_pkg because python-apt is only Suggests |
| 16:25.22 | *** join/#debian tolkor (~rj@tdream.lly.earlham.edu) |
| 16:26.00 | *** join/#debian confusid (~confusid@static-71-178-222-34.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 16:27.53 | themill | jelly: that's easy to fix, at least. |
| 16:28.33 | jelly | sure, but if I have to resort to installing new stuff, I might install aptitude as well |
| 16:28.57 | themill | you already have aptitude though? |
| 16:29.16 | jelly | not everywhere this script is going to run |
| 16:29.26 | *** join/#debian fedesilva (~fedesilva@r201-217-136-42.ir-static.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 16:30.13 | jelly | I'll pretend I have it anyway |
| 16:31.06 | *** join/#debian fedesilva (~fedesilva@r201-217-136-42.ir-static.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 16:31.31 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~john@host81-141-160-56.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 16:35.44 | *** join/#debian pbxbrian (~pbxbrian@79.97.2.26) |
| 16:36.05 | *** join/#debian redeemer (~quassel@77.44.175.51) |
| 16:37.38 | *** join/#debian ichigo-roku (~ichigo-ro@42.241.97.84.rev.sfr.net) |
| 16:38.18 | *** join/#debian ompaul (~ompaul@unaffiliated/ompaul) |
| 16:39.17 | *** join/#debian JJJRRR (~jhon@186.146.165.153) |
| 16:41.10 | *** join/#debian uNIXplumber (~uNIXplumb@ultimedia-linux.org) |
| 16:42.22 | *** join/#debian dario (~dario@mailgate.zerties.org) |
| 16:42.41 | RichiH | /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt_check.py always reports zero open security issues while debsecan --suite wheezy --only-fixed --format packages finds 18 |
| 16:42.53 | *** join/#debian lcafiero (~lcafiero@38.96.16.67) |
| 16:42.56 | dario | hi * |
| 16:43.23 | *** join/#debian mtn_ (~mtn@184.63.221.77) |
| 16:43.24 | dario | what are the security implications (for me as an admin) of enabling the ssh GatewayPorts option in sshd_config? |
| 16:44.00 | *** join/#debian olegfusion (~olegfusio@46.191.225.38) |
| 16:44.16 | ompaul | dario: not a debian question here is your answer http://www.snailbook.com/faq/gatewayports.auto.html |
| 16:45.00 | *** join/#debian sexyshape (~sexyshape@AAnnecy-551-1-362-222.w90-27.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 16:45.01 | *** join/#debian welch (~welch@209.133.117.5) |
| 16:45.42 | dario | ompaul: kthxbye :-) |
| 16:45.45 | *** part/#debian dario (~dario@mailgate.zerties.org) |
| 16:46.25 | *** join/#debian s70rm (~storm@unaffiliated/s70rm) |
| 16:48.27 | *** join/#debian mg-gm (~Thunderbi@46-65-84-59.zone16.bethere.co.uk) |
| 16:50.52 | *** join/#debian Nudeln (~Nudeln@201.230.137.29) |
| 16:51.13 | *** join/#debian LDungeon (~llama@cpe-174-102-147-31.wi.res.rr.com) |
| 16:51.59 | *** join/#debian tolkor (~rj@tdream.lly.earlham.edu) |
| 16:52.25 | themill | RichiH: does "aptitude search ~o" list the same packages debsecan does? |
| 16:52.40 | *** join/#debian Sm0kEz (~Sm0kEz@95.147.119.229) |
| 16:53.43 | mg-gm | Hi all can someone point to the right howto / tutorial how to use different version of packages on the same system ? |
| 16:53.54 | *** join/#debian trinathon (~deans-and@128.187.208.189) |
| 16:54.07 | themill | mg-gm: short answer is "you can't". What are you really trying to do? |
| 16:54.30 | _niCe_ | can someone tell me where my problem with the routing ist? http://pastebin.com/ab6uHzCe |
| 16:55.35 | *** join/#debian jakenl (~jaap@2001:980:90d6:1:21e:8cff:fe01:3479) |
| 16:56.29 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 16:57.59 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@2001:4dd0:ff00:8421:6e62:6dff:fe4a:e47d) |
| 16:58.15 | *** part/#debian sunfun (~sunfun@2.237.1.1) |
| 16:59.23 | *** join/#debian stayarrr (~stayarrr@p57A6C840.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:00.04 | ChrisH | _niCe_: there are too many x in your IPs... :) can you pastebin netstat -rn and ip route get zzz.zzz.zzz.zzz without replacing numbers with characters. |
| 17:00.30 | *** join/#debian khimera (~khimera@rrcs-208-125-3-152.nyc.biz.rr.com) |
| 17:00.32 | *** join/#debian geggam_ (~geggam@108-218-203-180.uvs.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 17:01.57 | *** join/#debian leaffy (~john@host81-141-160-13.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 17:03.06 | *** join/#debian [SkG] (~sconde@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) |
| 17:03.37 | *** join/#debian khimera_ (~khimera@rrcs-208-125-3-152.nyc.biz.rr.com) |
| 17:04.25 | mg-gm | themill i have a wireshark installed but it has a bug, i need an older or a newer package, but if i try to install it the dependences are not macthing ... |
| 17:04.42 | _niCe_ | ChrisH on the Host? |
| 17:05.06 | *** join/#debian FilipeMaia (~filipe@sb-fw.bmc.uu.se) |
| 17:06.34 | themill | mg-gm: which release? what bug number? |
| 17:06.42 | *** join/#debian oy (~kuwe@g225209192.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 17:06.53 | *** part/#debian sveva65 (~sverre@unaffiliated/sveva65) |
| 17:07.15 | ChrisH | _niCe_: If that is a virtual enviroment, on both systems |
| 17:07.15 | *** join/#debian pan_ (~pan@35.16.18.46) |
| 17:07.50 | mg-gm | themill the capture filter is not working in all the 1.8.x |
| 17:08.10 | *** join/#debian DubPlate (~DubPlate@95.147.119.229) |
| 17:08.53 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@65.48.230.78) |
| 17:09.12 | *** join/#debian khimera_ (~khimera@rrcs-208-125-3-152.nyc.biz.rr.com) |
| 17:10.02 | *** join/#debian herbyCologne (~herby@xdsl-87-78-143-207.netcologne.de) |
| 17:10.04 | *** join/#debian vehicle (~disease@unaffiliated/vehicle) |
| 17:11.49 | *** join/#debian zykes- (~zykes@184.79-161-107.customer.lyse.net) |
| 17:12.06 | *** join/#debian Fuz2y (~Fuz2y@a85-138-192-94.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 17:12.20 | *** join/#debian martin3z (~DomMK@89-73-247-41.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 17:12.21 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~ulises11@213.37.172.90) |
| 17:12.29 | *** join/#debian wendelmineiro (~wendelmin@177.185.4.27) |
| 17:12.31 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~ulises11@213.37.172.90.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 17:12.33 | *** part/#debian martin3z (~DomMK@89-73-247-41.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 17:12.36 | *** part/#debian chris_debian (~chris_deb@host86-136-121-39.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:12.38 | *** join/#debian khimera_ (~khimera@rrcs-208-125-3-152.nyc.biz.rr.com) |
| 17:12.44 | *** join/#debian starius2 (~starius@37.190.62.18) |
| 17:13.39 | *** join/#debian noahfx (~noahfx@200.49.191.114) |
| 17:13.43 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1284] by debhelper |
| 17:13.57 | _niCe_ | chrisH: http://pastebin.com/PSbeZ1LV |
| 17:14.28 | vehicle | Hi, I was wondering whether there's any difference between GPT and MBR partition table with Squeeze and UEFI disabled on less than 2.2TB Advanced Format/4k sector drive? I've manually aligned paritions, so that's set |
| 17:14.46 | *** join/#debian Gurty (~princess@109.212.254.189) |
| 17:15.07 | *** join/#debian khimera__ (~khimera@rrcs-208-125-3-152.nyc.biz.rr.com) |
| 17:15.16 | ksk | GPT is different from MBR, yeS ;) |
| 17:15.46 | *** join/#debian Defaultti (defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi) |
| 17:15.47 | ksk | if your device is "small" enough to use MBR i would just go ahead ( i have no experience with uefi-stuff ) |
| 17:15.51 | *** join/#debian Sm0kEz (~Sm0kEz@95.147.119.229) |
| 17:15.56 | ChrisH | _niCe_: I cannot help if you do not provide the requested data. there are again xxx in... So I stop here. |
| 17:15.59 | *** join/#debian boven (~boven@85.24.141.138) |
| 17:16.08 | Suppa_Spic | I want to limit the memory per thread to a user, how can I make this persisten? I use "ulimit -s 512" |
| 17:16.11 | vehicle | Should've rephrased that. It's not detrimental to perforamnce, is it? |
| 17:16.46 | _niCe_ | ChrisH: i can't post the ip of a not fully configured server, but tell me why do you need the entire ip? |
| 17:17.47 | *** join/#debian afuentes (~afuentes@95.61.119.171) |
| 17:17.52 | *** join/#debian m8 (~mor@unaffiliated/m8) |
| 17:18.11 | *** join/#debian mg-gm (~Thunderbi@46-65-84-59.zone16.bethere.co.uk) |
| 17:18.14 | *** join/#debian khimera_ (~khimera@rrcs-208-125-3-152.nyc.biz.rr.com) |
| 17:18.23 | *** join/#debian rodrigods (~rodrigods@unaffiliated/rodrigods) |
| 17:18.40 | *** join/#debian rrehbein (~rrehbein@12.148.198.170) |
| 17:18.41 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 17:19.06 | mg-gm | themill is the apt-pinning able to do this ? i'm just googleing |
| 17:20.26 | *** join/#debian pikudoz (~pikudoz@190.235.101.219) |
| 17:20.59 | *** join/#debian fishcooker (7da48a76@gateway/web/freenode/ip.125.164.138.118) |
| 17:21.02 | *** join/#debian cian1500ww (~cian1500w@unaffiliated/cian1500ww) |
| 17:21.20 | *** join/#debian sexyshape (~sexyshape@AAnnecy-551-1-171-233.w90-36.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:22.05 | *** join/#debian Fuz2y (~Fuz2y@a85-138-192-94.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 17:23.20 | *** join/#debian WormDude (~wormfood@220.115.40.56) |
| 17:23.37 | *** join/#debian DerPate (~dominik@85.183.99.23) |
| 17:23.54 | *** join/#debian nixoeen (~nixoeen@gb075.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) |
| 17:23.54 | *** join/#debian nixoeen (~nixoeen@unaffiliated/nixoeen) |
| 17:24.08 | *** join/#debian jjholt (~root@cpe-98-30-5-26.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 17:24.14 | *** join/#debian Fuz2y (~Fuz2y@a85-138-192-94.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 17:24.53 | *** join/#debian WormFewd (~wormfood@120.128.2.189) |
| 17:25.16 | *** join/#debian blnk (b20@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-bsnurrxekurouovi) |
| 17:25.44 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc1-nott14-2-0-cust345.12-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:25.56 | *** join/#debian MaddinXx_ (~racksteri@zux221-083-035.adsl.green.ch) |
| 17:26.51 | *** join/#debian DeusEx (~DeusEx@151.95.104.248) |
| 17:26.51 | *** join/#debian pikudoz (~pikudoz@190.235.101.219) |
| 17:26.51 | *** join/#debian DeusEx (~DeusEx@unaffiliated/deusex) |
| 17:27.12 | *** join/#debian xsappyx (~xsappyx@wsip-24-120-126-202.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 17:28.22 | *** join/#debian vipersniper (~viper@S0106002129c36a75.no.shawcable.net) |
| 17:28.29 | vipersniper | I change the /etc/default/grub from 0 to 3 to boot the kernel I need and run update-grub, bot the newer kernel keeps booting |
| 17:28.38 | *** join/#debian AimHere (~bod@host86-165-175-188.range86-165.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:28.38 | *** join/#debian ndrs__ (~andres@86-44-166-184-dynamic.b-ras3.chf.cork.eircom.net) |
| 17:29.07 | vipersniper | any ideas, what im doing wrong :) |
| 17:29.18 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.212.120.182) |
| 17:29.56 | vipersniper | I miss the old menu.lst :) |
| 17:30.06 | *** join/#debian amgarchIn9 (~amgarchin@p4FD60694.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:31.07 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc1-nott14-2-0-cust345.12-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:31.32 | *** join/#debian marcusk (~mk@kennedy.acc.umu.se) |
| 17:31.33 | *** join/#debian JengYiC (~jengyic@mail.daemonland.org) |
| 17:31.43 | *** join/#debian Alice3 (~Alice@cpc3-grim12-0-0-cust856.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:32.26 | *** join/#debian sexyshape (~sexyshape@AAnnecy-551-1-398-24.w90-27.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:33.08 | *** join/#debian warhead (~warhead@cpe-94-253-238-233.st.cable.xnet.hr) |
| 17:33.14 | *** part/#debian marcusk (~mk@kennedy.acc.umu.se) |
| 17:33.31 | *** join/#debian Pikudoz (~puppy@190.235.101.219) |
| 17:33.43 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1290] by debhelper |
| 17:33.52 | *** join/#debian qmr (~qmr@50.116.18.140) |
| 17:33.56 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@88.233.87.228) |
| 17:33.56 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 17:34.12 | *** join/#debian nick_h (~nick@li46-53.members.linode.com) |
| 17:34.33 | *** join/#debian Sm0kEz (~Sm0kEz@95.147.120.225) |
| 17:34.49 | *** join/#debian hedel (~hedel@nat-18.starnet.cz) |
| 17:35.49 | *** join/#debian pi_ (~pi@AMontpellier-652-1-258-194.w92-143.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:35.57 | *** join/#debian Paul_E (~chatzilla@67-200-235-82.static.logixcom.net) |
| 17:37.11 | *** join/#debian trinathon (~deans-and@128.187.208.189) |
| 17:37.12 | Paul_E | Hi all... I am needing to compile a package manually (unixodbc) to the latest version (2.3.1) and however still install php5-odbc, however php5-odbc requires the unixodbc package to be installed. I need it to use the newer version. Is there a way I can have apt use my version of unixodbc and not get the one from the repository? |
| 17:37.56 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 17:38.13 | *** join/#debian noahfx (~noahfx@200.49.191.63) |
| 17:38.44 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc1-nott14-2-0-cust345.12-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:38.46 | *** join/#debian MoL0ToV (~g@194.105.50.24) |
| 17:39.41 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc1-nott14-2-0-cust345.12-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:40.49 | *** join/#debian nicoparker (~nico@ks37227.kimsufi.com) |
| 17:41.01 | *** join/#debian Fuz2y (~Fuz2y@a85-138-192-94.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 17:41.04 | mwargh | put it on hold |
| 17:41.12 | mwargh | apt can do that somehow |
| 17:41.23 | MrFrood | Paul_E: did you build your version as a deb? |
| 17:41.31 | *** join/#debian MoL0ToV^ (~g@194.105.50.24) |
| 17:41.39 | nicoparker | hi everyone. I have a small question regarding an update from squeeze to wheezy on a server. I made the changes in apt.conf, update && upgrade, but I'm still on a 2.6.38 kernel. |
| 17:41.58 | MrFrood | and you are best using dpkg to hold stuff |
| 17:42.11 | nicoparker | do I have to update grub's conf to tell him to use the new kernel? |
| 17:42.44 | mwargh | nicoparker: do aptitude search linux-image |
| 17:42.45 | mwargh | iirc |
| 17:43.03 | mwargh | chose one you wanna use |
| 17:44.06 | nicoparker | mwargh: I have these : linux-image-3.2.0.4-amd64 and linux-image-amd64 installed |
| 17:44.19 | mwargh | hm |
| 17:44.34 | Arrowmaster | run update-grub as root and reboot |
| 17:44.38 | mwargh | maybe remove linux-image-amd64? |
| 17:44.40 | Paul_E | MrFrood: No, but this was my best guess before asking here as perhaps the way to proceed. |
| 17:44.47 | Arrowmaster | no keep linux-image-amd64 |
| 17:44.47 | *** part/#debian sKeiths (skeith@unaffiliated/skeiths) |
| 17:44.57 | mwargh | ah, well my bad |
| 17:45.04 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc1-nott14-2-0-cust345.12-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:45.11 | nicoparker | update-grub or update-grub2? |
| 17:45.12 | *** join/#debian vami (~wuut@79.124.10.29) |
| 17:45.15 | *** join/#debian milosn (~milosn@5ac78ea1.bb.sky.com) |
| 17:45.20 | Arrowmaster | its the same thing |
| 17:45.25 | nicoparker | ok |
| 17:45.26 | Arrowmaster | well it should be |
| 17:45.37 | mwargh | i found out the hard way that you don't mess with shit by hand in debian |
| 17:45.42 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 17:45.44 | mwargh | heh |
| 17:45.54 | nicoparker | Found linux image: /boot/bzImage-2.6.38.2-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64 |
| 17:45.57 | nicoparker | Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 17:46.02 | *** join/#debian diniwed (~gavron@ool-ad023327.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 17:46.03 | mtn_ | mwargh, you can mess with it, just don't do it wrong :) |
| 17:46.14 | nicoparker | Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 17:46.31 | MrFrood | Paul_E: build it as a deb (either the propere way or quick and dirty with checkinstall) and then use dpkg to put it on hold |
| 17:46.44 | mwargh | mtn_: it'd be just wrong most of time. better to figure out how it works |
| 17:46.47 | *** join/#debian ChmEarl (~tlviewer@cpe-66-74-165-149.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 17:46.52 | Arrowmaster | nicoparker: ok looks like its finding the 2.6 one first and putting it first in the menu, when you reboot make sure you manually select the 3.2 kernel from the grub menu and boot into it |
| 17:46.54 | nicoparker | i'm just wondering, since it's a server and you cannot choose by hand on boot, if there's a kind of default choice wich is bad |
| 17:47.03 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 17:47.05 | Arrowmaster | well fuck |
| 17:47.31 | *** join/#debian mg-gm (~Thunderbi@46-65-84-59.zone16.bethere.co.uk) |
| 17:47.34 | mwargh | say, i installed 2 versions of postgresql recently and found out that psql is a wrapper which decides which version of psql to call based on cluster configuration, namely listen port |
| 17:47.35 | nicoparker | I'll probably have to deal with grub.cfg |
| 17:47.41 | Arrowmaster | manually edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg to remove the 2.6 entry, reboot, uninstall the 2.6 kernel |
| 17:47.41 | Paul_E | MrFrood: Quick and dirty way you say???? |
| 17:47.55 | Paul_E | stops using http://wiki.debian.org/IntroDebianPackaging |
| 17:48.10 | mwargh | first my instinct was to just replace the wrapper with a symbolic link, but i supressed it |
| 17:48.19 | *** join/#debian blink (b20@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-ufnqexeavpkfieeb) |
| 17:48.24 | nicoparker | the only weird stuff is that (since I'm on wheezy) the linux-image SHOULD be 3.2 |
| 17:48.37 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc1-nott14-2-0-cust345.12-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:48.43 | *** join/#debian Jorgebio (~Fiasco@212-166-175-124.red-acceso.airtel.net) |
| 17:48.51 | nicoparker | and I shouldn't have to install linux-image-3.2 |
| 17:49.12 | nicoparker | there's no update-alternative choice to do? |
| 17:49.15 | Arrowmaster | nicoparker: it is, its just that you have what looks like a custom compiled 2.6 kernel thats ended up in the grub menu first |
| 17:49.23 | jelly | nicoparker: you do have 3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 17:49.30 | jelly | that's it |
| 17:49.34 | nicoparker | Arrowmaster: that's it! It's an OVH server |
| 17:49.38 | *** join/#debian noahfx (~noahfx@200.49.191.127) |
| 17:49.42 | nicoparker | not a vanilla debian |
| 17:49.48 | MrFrood | Paul_E: checkinstall (use instead of "make install") will make debs but without things like dependancie tracking, hence "quick and dirty" |
| 17:50.05 | Paul_E | oh wow. awesome. I'll try that first. |
| 17:50.17 | Arrowmaster | nicoparker: is it a physical server or a vps? if its a vps you might need their kernel |
| 17:50.18 | *** join/#debian e-anima (~eanima@p5DD8FA2C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:50.29 | *** join/#debian bjelleklang (~chris@wikipedia/Bjelleklang) |
| 17:50.29 | jelly | nicoparker: the issue here is update-grub just puts images in alphanumeric order by the filename, and bzImage... < vmlinux... |
| 17:50.29 | nicoparker | Arrowmaster: no no physical |
| 17:50.41 | *** join/#debian BigGold (~arielmt@yertle.sdc.org) |
| 17:50.45 | nicoparker | jelly: ooook sounds clear now |
| 17:51.02 | nicoparker | ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/06_OVHkernel ### |
| 17:51.05 | nicoparker | hehehe |
| 17:51.13 | jelly | or that. |
| 17:52.23 | Arrowmaster | mystery solved, blame the french |
| 17:52.34 | jelly | c'est la vie |
| 17:52.52 | nicoparker | ahaaha lol :] |
| 17:53.26 | nicoparker | the only remaining question is : each time I will run an update-grub again,boom OVH kernel |
| 17:53.38 | *** join/#debian Walzmyn (~quassel@50.96.92.54) |
| 17:53.40 | mwargh | why don't remove it then? |
| 17:53.41 | nicoparker | how can I get rid of it? |
| 17:53.51 | mwargh | well, boot to the 3.2 first to test |
| 17:54.42 | *** join/#debian k42b3 (~k42b3@p57997446.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:54.48 | nicoparker | mwargh: ok. If you don't see me again, RIP my server :] |
| 17:54.52 | mwargh | rant. debian wheezy, linux-3.2... real life -- linux 3.7 |
| 17:54.59 | mwargh | nicoparker: are you on the server? |
| 17:55.03 | nicoparker | yep |
| 17:55.08 | mwargh | irssi? |
| 17:55.13 | nicoparker | weechat :] |
| 17:55.20 | mwargh | nice :) |
| 17:55.54 | nicoparker | yep, really useful! And amazing uptimes :] before update I had 462 days uptime. |
| 17:55.56 | *** join/#debian DrMrHorse (~DrMrHorse@ool-4578753e.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 17:56.01 | *** join/#debian WormFood (~wormfood@120.128.2.189) |
| 17:56.10 | *** join/#debian JurassicJon (~textual@d24-150-74-122.home.cgocable.net) |
| 17:56.11 | nicoparker | still working like a charm |
| 17:56.23 | nicoparker | so wish me good luck |
| 17:56.32 | mwargh | good luck :) |
| 17:56.34 | mwargh | wait |
| 17:56.50 | mwargh | do you have serial consolet to the server? |
| 17:56.52 | nicoparker | hehehe everythin will be ok. That's not the kernel you're looking for. |
| 17:57.05 | nicoparker | not sure no. Never used it at least |
| 17:57.05 | mwargh | or how did that thing was called, kvm over ip? |
| 17:57.19 | *** join/#debian tonetto (~tonetto@cisne-cn09.upc.es) |
| 17:57.20 | mwargh | i mean, can you access the server console |
| 17:57.22 | mwargh | without the ssh? |
| 17:57.22 | nicoparker | I just check that before reboot |
| 17:57.33 | mwargh | IPMI |
| 17:57.38 | diverdude | is it possible to run multiple terminals in a command only environment? |
| 17:57.38 | mwargh | yep that's what it's called |
| 17:57.43 | nicoparker | anyway if ther's a pb with a kernel he'll try the next one |
| 17:57.45 | *** join/#debian d_arcy (~Day_dream@gar31-4-82-240-199-124.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:57.47 | mwargh | diverdude: screen? |
| 17:57.59 | nicoparker | diverdude: try screen or tmux |
| 17:58.21 | mwargh | nicoparker: i mean, then i update server i have an option of manually choosing kernel using serial console |
| 17:58.23 | *** join/#debian Commander1024 (~Commander@Commander1024-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net) |
| 17:58.24 | mwargh | or ipmi |
| 17:58.37 | mwargh | like if i were sitting before the server with keyboard and a monitor |
| 17:58.43 | mwargh | it proved very usefull |
| 17:58.45 | nicoparker | mwargh: yep I know but I don't know if OVH provides that |
| 17:58.50 | mwargh | oh :( |
| 17:59.07 | mwargh | good luck then :) |
| 17:59.11 | nicoparker | I'm on their website but I lost my pwd :] 462 days uptime is long |
| 17:59.24 | mwargh | huh! |
| 17:59.28 | diverdude | mwargh, im not connecting via ssh, i am directl on the computer |
| 17:59.32 | nicoparker | tmux is nearly a tiling wm though |
| 17:59.46 | mwargh | diverdude: so what? screen should be working |
| 17:59.57 | *** join/#debian richoid (~richoiddd@74.113.238.18) |
| 18:00.18 | *** join/#debian Xizor (~Xizor@c83-252-198-185.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 18:00.21 | nicoparker | diverdude: if you're on the computer try tiling wm, it just rocks (i3 or awesome for example) |
| 18:00.22 | *** join/#debian _moon (~moon@131.117.202.4) |
| 18:00.36 | nicoparker | have this on my laptop love it |
| 18:01.07 | *** join/#debian niervol1 (~x@hmz238.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 18:01.16 | mwargh | guys use tmux at work |
| 18:01.17 | mwargh | like it |
| 18:01.21 | mwargh | i'm using screen |
| 18:01.29 | mwargh | because i'm too lazy to install it on every box |
| 18:01.37 | mwargh | and every box has screen already |
| 18:01.51 | nicoparker | tmux is the new screen actually, but I'm really used to screen. Weechat is in a screen |
| 18:01.54 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 18:02.07 | *** join/#debian niervol1 (~x@hmz238.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 18:02.08 | mwargh | nicoparker: i know. screen is abandoned |
| 18:02.14 | nicoparker | but it works. |
| 18:02.22 | nicoparker | don't fix what is not borken? |
| 18:02.24 | *** join/#debian richoid (~richoiddd@74.113.238.18) |
| 18:02.33 | nicoparker | *broken. |
| 18:02.33 | mwargh | screen -v |
| 18:02.33 | mwargh | Screen version 4.00.03jw4 (FAU) 2-May-06 |
| 18:02.40 | mwargh | it's debian wheezy here |
| 18:02.53 | nicoparker | Screen version 4.01.00devel (GNU) 2-May-06 |
| 18:02.53 | *** part/#debian niervol1 (~x@hmz238.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 18:02.54 | mwargh | yep, it indeed works and does it well enough for me |
| 18:03.17 | nicoparker | wheezy too. Don't ask me why we don't have the same |
| 18:03.34 | *** join/#debian r0tha (~r0tha@173.247.200.122) |
| 18:03.44 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1302] by debhelper |
| 18:03.53 | mwargh | huh |
| 18:04.00 | *** join/#debian passstab (~coplon@c-68-80-37-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 18:04.03 | mwargh | i guess screen never made it past 4.01 |
| 18:04.18 | nicoparker | ahh found my pwd!! |
| 18:04.23 | mwargh | it'd be sad if it turned out that the dev who wrote it died at that point :-| |
| 18:04.26 | *** join/#debian AlexLikeRock (~alex@189.186.102.153) |
| 18:04.29 | mwargh | ? |
| 18:05.04 | passstab | then use tmux |
| 18:05.39 | mwargh | i'm okay with screen as it is |
| 18:05.40 | nicoparker | mwargh: it's foss, it can be continued |
| 18:05.46 | nicoparker | but still it works |
| 18:05.52 | mwargh | nicoparker: yep, they called the continuation tmux |
| 18:05.54 | mwargh | ;-p |
| 18:06.01 | nicoparker | so no kvm over ip |
| 18:06.06 | nicoparker | let's try a reboot |
| 18:06.19 | nicoparker | krkrkr |
| 18:06.20 | mwargh | holds breath |
| 18:06.28 | *** join/#debian Tree_Hugger (~Tree_Hugg@75-166-158-77.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 18:06.34 | nicoparker | see ya guyz. I hope :] |
| 18:06.52 | *** join/#debian reddolf (~reddolf@darthvader.if.ufrgs.br) |
| 18:09.55 | *** join/#debian eSa| (~esa@gateway/tor-sasl/esa/x-22732302) |
| 18:10.07 | *** join/#debian nicoparker (~nico@ks37227.kimsufi.com) |
| 18:10.27 | nicoparker | Linux nicoparker.org 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.32-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 18:10.34 | nicoparker | I love debian |
| 18:10.35 | *** join/#debian Jdbye|Laptop (~furry4lif@ti0010a380-dhcp1283.bb.online.no) |
| 18:10.51 | nicoparker | then I can delete that OVH kernel |
| 18:11.33 | nicoparker | hum strange bugs with characters on my screen. Looks like I have to update locales |
| 18:11.33 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc1-nott14-2-0-cust345.12-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 18:11.38 | *** join/#debian IsaacHaze (~opera@g77045.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 18:12.00 | mwargh | well, at least you are bach |
| 18:12.10 | mwargh | here is some russian |
| 18:12.13 | mwargh | хелло |
| 18:12.17 | mwargh | do you see it? |
| 18:12.22 | nicoparker | mwargh: I'm not a musician |
| 18:12.23 | *** join/#debian welch (~welch@209.133.117.5) |
| 18:12.43 | nicoparker | you broke everythin :| |
| 18:12.48 | mwargh | o-O |
| 18:12.50 | mwargh | How? |
| 18:12.56 | mwargh | it was just russian letters |
| 18:13.04 | *** join/#debian tremon (~aschuring@d594e6a3.dsl.concepts.nl) |
| 18:13.06 | nicoparker | the status bar is disppearing |
| 18:13.09 | mwargh | o_O |
| 18:13.23 | sussudio | nicoparker: is it turning into a penguin? |
| 18:13.27 | mwargh | i have default debian wheezy it handles unikode fine |
| 18:13.28 | nicoparker | characters are not well placed on the screen |
| 18:13.29 | mwargh | unicode |
| 18:13.35 | nicoparker | sussudio: I wish it could |
| 18:13.37 | *** join/#debian leakybuckit (~moon@studpool-wlan-75-28.fs.fbi.h-da.de) |
| 18:13.58 | nicoparker | weechat is getting mad |
| 18:14.20 | nicoparker | I guess I will have to remove the config |
| 18:14.35 | nicoparker | how can I delete that OVH kernel now? |
| 18:15.26 | *** join/#debian lewix (~chatzilla@S0106386077d95284.va.shawcable.net) |
| 18:15.40 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-24-7-2-126.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 18:15.46 | MrFrood | nicoparker: what's the issue with weechat? I've had it show unicode on both squeeze and wheezy (though not on netbsd) |
| 18:15.51 | *** join/#debian themill (~stuart@unaffiliated/themill) |
| 18:15.52 | *** join/#debian Caso (~ridout@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 18:16.49 | *** join/#debian bubull3 (~bubull3@host-85-201-149-150.brutele.be) |
| 18:17.13 | nicoparker | locales reconfiguration for the win |
| 18:17.34 | nicoparker | oh wait... coming back |
| 18:18.28 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben@63.107.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz) |
| 18:19.34 | *** join/#debian m4ggus (marcus@unaffiliated/m4ggus) |
| 18:20.24 | *** join/#debian f8l (~f8l@81.219.166.100) |
| 18:20.38 | *** join/#debian burn_ (~quassel@cl-1079.bru-01.be.sixxs.net) |
| 18:20.42 | *** join/#debian sawjig (~sawjig@gateway/tor-sasl/sawjig) |
| 18:21.25 | *** join/#debian nicoparker (~nico@ks37227.kimsufi.com) |
| 18:21.30 | nicoparker | re |
| 18:21.43 | nicoparker | hmm looks like still borken |
| 18:22.16 | nicoparker | I'm wondering if putty is not the culprit here... But it used to work fine. |
| 18:22.38 | nicoparker | anyway. Kernel delete was the subject. |
| 18:22.51 | *** join/#debian Buumi (~buumi@gprs-internet-ff61ee00-229.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 18:23.44 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1296] by debhelper |
| 18:23.57 | nicoparker | rm /boot/bzImage-2.6.38.2-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64 should be enough no? |
| 18:24.08 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~Matrix@client-86-29-248-79.pete.adsl.virginmedia.com) |
| 18:24.08 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~Matrix@unaffiliated/mang0) |
| 18:24.54 | *** join/#debian OctopusGirl (~s98259@vpn.kottnet.eu) |
| 18:24.55 | OctopusGirl | :3 |
| 18:24.56 | OctopusGirl | heyy |
| 18:25.00 | OctopusGirl | Okies... |
| 18:25.06 | OctopusGirl | ifconfig -a, was it? :o |
| 18:26.01 | *** join/#debian dura_ (~dura@cpc3-live12-0-0-cust114.know.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 18:26.19 | *** join/#debian a111 (~a111a111@host-2-98-96-54.as13285.net) |
| 18:26.52 | *** join/#debian boven (~boven@85.24.141.138) |
| 18:27.00 | mwargh | nicoparker: if this kernel is not installed by apt |
| 18:27.08 | *** join/#debian pi_ (~pi@AMontpellier-652-1-258-194.w92-143.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:27.13 | Arrowmaster | nicoparker: remove /etc/grub.d/06_OVHkernel while your at it |
| 18:27.16 | OctopusGirl | Linux felicia 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.32-1 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 18:27.31 | nicoparker | ok |
| 18:27.43 | mwargh | nicoparker: do dpkg -S /boot/bzImage-2.6.38.2-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64 before this |
| 18:27.59 | Arrowmaster | nicoparker: and when you run update-grub it wont add that kernel to the menu, hopefully |
| 18:27.59 | *** join/#debian alexim (~alexim@199.231.242.26) |
| 18:28.16 | *** join/#debian SubjectOne (section1@78-22-166-21.access.telenet.be) |
| 18:29.25 | nicoparker | yep thanks guy. I'll try an update grub to see if everything is ok |
| 18:29.50 | nicoparker | gooooood!!! |
| 18:30.26 | nicoparker | I'm still wondering why they put their own kernel... There's nothing special here. I'm ok to use their repo for packages, but the kernel srlsy? |
| 18:30.34 | *** join/#debian s98259 (~s98259@vpn.kottnet.eu) |
| 18:30.38 | s98259 | Okies... |
| 18:30.53 | *** join/#debian JungleBells (~DubPlate@95.147.120.225) |
| 18:30.57 | s98259 | How do I boot from linux-image-3.6-686-pae? |
| 18:31.02 | s98259 | I installed it. |
| 18:31.12 | nmschulte | s/from/to/ -- ??? |
| 18:31.42 | OctopusGirl | nmschulte: Okies boot to then. :/ |
| 18:32.18 | nicoparker | OctopusGirl: if it's installed you should have the choice on boot |
| 18:32.27 | nmschulte | OctopusGirl: When you installed the package, it should have ran update-grub and update-initramfs |
| 18:32.43 | nmschulte | that should have added menu options to grub, from which you just choose the kernel to boot, and viola |
| 18:33.02 | OctopusGirl | nmschulte: Oh it didn't so I'll do it manually. |
| 18:33.02 | nmschulte | generally, the newest kernel is set as the default, so it may be automagic |
| 18:33.04 | *** join/#debian dtcrshr (~datacrush@unaffiliated/datacrusher) |
| 18:33.20 | nmschulte | OctopusGirl: cool. do initramfs first |
| 18:33.41 | nmschulte | strange that it didn't, though... |
| 18:33.52 | nmschulte | That was a package packaged by a Debian maintainer? |
| 18:35.01 | OctopusGirl | nmschulte: update-initramfs wants parameters but idk which one to choose. |
| 18:35.14 | OctopusGirl | nicoparker: Nope. |
| 18:35.25 | nmschulte | OctopusGirl: one second |
| 18:35.32 | *** join/#debian tom_ (~tom@93.186.151.181) |
| 18:35.50 | OctopusGirl | nmschulte: -c? |
| 18:36.14 | nmschulte | OctopusGirl: check the man page: Update the initramfs of the newest kernel: update-initramfs -u |
| 18:36.28 | OctopusGirl | right |
| 18:36.31 | OctopusGirl | okies :3 |
| 18:36.32 | nmschulte | -c is to create a new one, and -k specifies a specific kernel |
| 18:36.39 | OctopusGirl | I know |
| 18:36.41 | nmschulte | so, pick your poison |
| 18:36.43 | nmschulte | :) |
| 18:36.45 | *** join/#debian dcherniv (~dcherniv@213.255.219.102) |
| 18:36.47 | OctopusGirl | er... |
| 18:36.56 | OctopusGirl | it's just all confusing :/ |
| 18:37.13 | nmschulte | indeed; I was more or less sharing for my own sake; I'm by no means an expert. |
| 18:37.29 | OctopusGirl | so initramfs images are the kernel images? |
| 18:37.47 | dcherniv | OctopusGirl, yes basically |
| 18:37.50 | nmschulte | They are the initial file system (in RAM) for the "booting" kernel |
| 18:37.56 | OctopusGirl | :o |
| 18:37.59 | nmschulte | including the kernel itself (because they're just files) |
| 18:38.01 | OctopusGirl | rite |
| 18:38.03 | OctopusGirl | heh |
| 18:38.10 | nmschulte | vmlinuz |
| 18:38.17 | *** join/#debian proller (~proller@80.240.216.69) |
| 18:38.18 | nmschulte | vmlinux... |
| 18:38.28 | nmschulte | z implies gzipped vmlinux == vmlinuz |
| 18:38.40 | OctopusGirl | Oh-oh-oh-oh |
| 18:38.54 | mwargh | http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1212.1/01152.html |
| 18:38.56 | nmschulte | but initramfs does initrd, I think |
| 18:38.57 | mwargh | lol? |
| 18:38.57 | OctopusGirl | I execute update-initramfs -u and it makes more sense I recognise it! |
| 18:39.07 | nmschulte | :) |
| 18:39.09 | OctopusGirl | I was kinda scared of executing it. lol |
| 18:39.19 | *** join/#debian G_O_D (~user@181.31.161.214) |
| 18:39.22 | nmschulte | mwargh: we're talking about that in #steamlug, actualy |
| 18:39.26 | nmschulte | s/actualy/actually/ |
| 18:39.33 | *** join/#debian edgar-rft (~GOD@HSI-KBW-091-089-000-047.hsi2.kabelbw.de) |
| 18:39.44 | OctopusGirl | brb rebooting into kernel... |
| 18:39.52 | nmschulte | OctopusGirl: can always take a backup.. bye |
| 18:40.27 | *** join/#debian FilipeMaia (~filipe@h136n4-u-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 18:42.05 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 18:42.43 | nicoparker | gotta go, but thanks a lot for your help! see ya ;] |
| 18:42.44 | *** join/#debian OctopusGirl (~s98259@vpn.kottnet.eu) |
| 18:42.51 | OctopusGirl | oh-oh-oh-oh :( |
| 18:42.55 | *** join/#debian deftrap (~oncerox@HSI-KBW-149-172-247-106.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 18:43.20 | *** part/#debian nicoparker (~nico@ks37227.kimsufi.com) |
| 18:43.40 | Paul_E | MrFrood: Your suggestion worked amazingly. Thank you. |
| 18:43.44 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1304] by debhelper |
| 18:44.27 | *** join/#debian lcafiero (~lcafiero@38.96.16.67) |
| 18:44.35 | MrFrood | Paul_E: np, glad to help :) |
| 18:44.42 | *** join/#debian arietis (~arietis@188.242.29.115) |
| 18:45.01 | OctopusGirl | Didn't work. :( |
| 18:45.30 | Paul_E | when creating a new package, will any security updates or newer revisions with a version number less than the package I created ever be installed (do I need to mark the package as held?) |
| 18:47.32 | *** join/#debian AlexLikeRock (~alex@189.186.102.153) |
| 18:47.34 | OctopusGirl | Haha no wonder it's 2.6 not 3.6 I mis saw the 2. My bad well I'm not using that kernel it's too old. lol |
| 18:47.40 | *** join/#debian sudoecho (~ghostitw@unaffiliated/sudoecho) |
| 18:48.08 | *** join/#debian mysteriousdaren (~darren@199.190.240.160) |
| 18:48.29 | MrFrood | if the package is n hold it will stay until you remove the hold, if you use the same numbering conventions as the offical Debian package and do not hold it then it will stay untill a package with a higher number is released |
| 18:48.48 | OctopusGirl | will a 486 kernel be faster than a 686 kernel? |
| 18:49.20 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~matrix@client-86-29-248-79.pete.adsl.virginmedia.com) |
| 18:49.21 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~matrix@unaffiliated/mang0) |
| 18:49.28 | *** join/#debian dreamon_ (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 18:49.39 | *** join/#debian AlexLikeRock (~alex@189.186.102.153) |
| 18:49.59 | *** join/#debian mysteriousdaren (~darren@199.190.240.160) |
| 18:50.07 | *** join/#debian trinathon (~deans-and@128.187.208.189) |
| 18:50.15 | *** join/#debian MrSoll (609870@xs8.xs4all.nl) |
| 18:50.17 | *** join/#debian FilipeMaia (~filipe@h136n4-u-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 18:50.22 | tremon | OctopusGirl: no |
| 18:50.28 | OctopusGirl | :( |
| 18:50.37 | OctopusGirl | but but... |
| 18:50.49 | OctopusGirl | it takes 10 seconds to login |
| 18:50.49 | burek | buy an ssd hard disk |
| 18:50.50 | *** join/#debian rryoumaa (~user@ip68-226-110-213.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 18:50.52 | burek | it will help |
| 18:50.59 | OctopusGirl | O.o |
| 18:51.00 | mwargh | ^ |
| 18:51.10 | OctopusGirl | burek: You know how expensive those are? lol |
| 18:51.20 | burek | not any more |
| 18:51.23 | OctopusGirl | O.o |
| 18:51.30 | somiaj | not only that they have a limited lifetime due to degration. |
| 18:51.33 | OctopusGirl | hmmm |
| 18:51.34 | MrSoll | 189 Euro for 256GB |
| 18:51.46 | burek | why on earth would you buy 256 gb |
| 18:51.50 | tremon | no reason to buy that large |
| 18:51.52 | burek | buy a small one with 32 gb |
| 18:51.55 | burek | for system partition only |
| 18:51.57 | OctopusGirl | I'm not getting an SSD if it's not going to last. |
| 18:52.11 | burek | never mind, just ignore me |
| 18:52.21 | mwargh | it will last 5 years maye |
| 18:52.23 | nkuttler | i like to have ~/ on ssd |
| 18:52.24 | mwargh | or 3 for sure |
| 18:52.38 | rryoumaa | are spinning disk hard drives more reliable? |
| 18:52.41 | mwargh | ssd's are not that fragile anymore |
| 18:52.48 | mwargh | rryoumaa: not anymore |
| 18:52.49 | OctopusGirl | rryoumaa: Yes. |
| 18:52.49 | OctopusGirl | lol |
| 18:52.54 | OctopusGirl | mwargh: O.o |
| 18:53.02 | MrSoll | rryoumaa: no |
| 18:53.04 | somiaj | really depends on ussage how long it will last, it does speed up boot times and loading times so if you get advntage from it is also dependent on use. How often do you really reboot your computer? (I use pm-suspend to shut mine down) |
| 18:53.14 | Paul_E | MrFrood: perfect, thanks. |
| 18:53.19 | *** join/#debian streuner (~streuner@mnhm-4d01b8e8.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 18:53.23 | MrFrood | np |
| 18:53.35 | OctopusGirl | only has TTY |
| 18:53.38 | rryoumaa | i'm glad we reached a consensus on this :) |
| 18:53.41 | *** join/#debian d70 (~d73@unaffiliated/d70) |
| 18:53.44 | *** join/#debian KriP (~kp@cpee448c77de93c.cm.vejen-net.dk) |
| 18:53.47 | *** join/#debian syslq_ (~syslq@91.185.207.168) |
| 18:53.53 | OctopusGirl | no X or resource whoring processes but... |
| 18:53.56 | OctopusGirl | sooooo slow |
| 18:54.03 | OctopusGirl | I was doing a pastebin... |
| 18:54.06 | OctopusGirl | it took an hour |
| 18:54.13 | nkuttler | somiaj: fast boot is really just a small factor. application startup, opening docs etc |
| 18:54.14 | OctopusGirl | :/ |
| 18:54.26 | *** join/#debian yogurt2ungue (~yogurt2un@host218.181-14-255.telecom.net.ar) |
| 18:54.28 | mwargh | just research the topic will ya |
| 18:54.31 | *** part/#debian d70 (~d73@unaffiliated/d70) |
| 18:54.35 | OctopusGirl | the pastebinit command took an hour just to pastebin a log file. |
| 18:54.41 | OctopusGirl | it wasn't even that big! |
| 18:54.46 | mwargh | before making statements like 'ssds are unreliable and die fast' |
| 18:54.52 | somiaj | nkuttler: yea i have an ssd, over all I didn't notice much of a difference from my desktop ussage (I rarely open up new programs and once thigns are in ram it runs fast) |
| 18:55.15 | rryoumaa | somiaj: i guess one issue is, surely it speeds up disk writes? (i presume encryption doesn't matter much either way.) |
| 18:55.18 | *** join/#debian LDungeon (~llama@148.8.243.3) |
| 18:55.25 | dura_ | put noop in grub |
| 18:55.47 | somiaj | rryoumaa: yea the drive is fast enough were the bottle neck is the sata speed and not the drive write/read speed. |
| 18:56.10 | rryoumaa | that's nice |
| 18:56.16 | somiaj | rryoumaa: I thought encryption's slow down wasn't disk speed but cpu ussage to encrypt/decrypt |
| 18:56.32 | rryoumaa | could be. but i heard something about how it chews up ssd somehow. |
| 18:56.45 | burek | http://maxschireson.com/2011/04/21/debunking-ssd-lifespan-and-random-write-performance-concerns/ |
| 18:56.47 | OctopusGirl | rryoumaa: O.o |
| 18:56.53 | burek | it's just a myth |
| 18:56.55 | OctopusGirl | all my porn is encrypted |
| 18:56.55 | rryoumaa | like you can't use the right algorithm to choose places or something |
| 18:57.10 | OctopusGirl | so the people can't get hold of it and start raging at cops |
| 18:57.10 | *** join/#debian Infiltrator (~tim@115.187.228.99) |
| 18:57.11 | OctopusGirl | O.o |
| 18:57.19 | MrSoll | your porn or the porn you watch? |
| 18:57.31 | *** join/#debian giglopr (~jgkfkjf@HSI-KBW-149-172-247-106.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 18:57.32 | OctopusGirl | MrSoll: I was just kidding |
| 18:57.37 | MrSoll | the later is redundant on the net so ... ;-) |
| 18:57.40 | OctopusGirl | but my data is still encrypted. |
| 18:57.55 | MrSoll | encfs or luks? |
| 18:57.55 | *** join/#debian tomoprime (~tomoprime@ool-2f1035c9.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 18:57.59 | giglopr | gentoo is bullshit |
| 18:58.10 | OctopusGirl | giglopr: ABVIOUSLY! |
| 18:58.16 | burek | what's the point of your encryption? if you can read it, surely can anyone else who gets the hdd |
| 18:58.21 | rryoumaa | i guess i want a small ssd for all personal work where you write frequently and root, and a large victorian spinning platter drive for torrents. or something. |
| 18:58.35 | *** join/#debian milosn_ (~milosn@5ac78eb7.bb.sky.com) |
| 18:58.48 | OctopusGirl | burek: Someone gets the SSD and filenames/file contents are all garbled |
| 18:58.51 | burek | rryoumaa we did the upgrade on all our webservers and the performance is ridiculously high now |
| 18:58.53 | *** mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ |
| 18:58.55 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@149.172.247.106] by themill |
| 18:58.56 | *** kick/#debian [giglopr!~stuart@unaffiliated/themill] by themill (You should know better) |
| 18:58.58 | *** mode/#debian [-o themill] by themill |
| 18:58.58 | OctopusGirl | well it's an HDD not an EED |
| 18:59.04 | burek | i couldn't even guess it would work that well |
| 18:59.08 | rryoumaa | burek: from ssd? |
| 18:59.09 | *** join/#debian i42n (~i42n@dslb-188-104-210-204.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:59.21 | burek | we just put ssd disks in place of /root partition and that's it |
| 18:59.45 | burek | OctopusGirl, if it's garbled, how come you can read it normally |
| 18:59.54 | OctopusGirl | burek: Cause... |
| 18:59.55 | nmschulte | OctopusGirl: Did you get it working? Sorry, I was afk. |
| 19:00.05 | OctopusGirl | I have the power to decrypt |
| 19:00.11 | OctopusGirl | nmschulte: no. |
| 19:00.13 | OctopusGirl | :/ |
| 19:00.15 | MrSoll | burek: /root? you have a really faulty application ;-) |
| 19:00.15 | OctopusGirl | cause... |
| 19:00.18 | nmschulte | What was the problem? |
| 19:00.19 | burek | using some key, which is stored on hdd... |
| 19:00.22 | OctopusGirl | it wasn't 3.6 it was 2.6 |
| 19:00.26 | nmschulte | haha |
| 19:00.28 | OctopusGirl | damn me I should've saw that. |
| 19:00.30 | burek | security through obscurity |
| 19:00.37 | OctopusGirl | I installed an outdated kernel lol |
| 19:00.41 | mwargh | http://www.monzy.com/intro/killdashnine_lyrics.html |
| 19:00.45 | burek | not root, / :D |
| 19:00.47 | burek | typo |
| 19:00.50 | nmschulte | what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 19:01.05 | OctopusGirl | I wanted to update my kernel for nvm. |
| 19:01.05 | rryoumaa | burek: it's not as if the key on the disk is the only thing required to decrypt though |
| 19:01.17 | OctopusGirl | lol |
| 19:01.18 | MrSoll | burek: let me guess /var and /tmp also on /? |
| 19:01.29 | OctopusGirl | you look in my files and it's like this... |
| 19:01.30 | OctopusGirl | ls |
| 19:01.40 | burek | well / and swap |
| 19:01.46 | OctopusGirl | SdfsfASfafd.fef Sdewfdfsvge.fef aWSferwger.eeg |
| 19:01.48 | OctopusGirl | or so |
| 19:01.56 | OctopusGirl | just an example. |
| 19:02.04 | nmschulte | OctopusGirl: what is nvm? |
| 19:02.05 | OctopusGirl | it's obviously better than that. |
| 19:02.08 | burek | because it really works fast and i don't know should i put /var /tmp etc as separate part. too, it works fine so far :) |
| 19:02.11 | OctopusGirl | nmschulte: nevermind |
| 19:02.19 | nmschulte | ah. |
| 19:02.29 | themill | mwargh: wrong channel. |
| 19:02.42 | nmschulte | OctopusGirl: I didn't see any sort of file listing for ls... |
| 19:02.45 | MrSoll | burek: read the /run discussion on wiki.debian.org as you can save your ssd and speed things up |
| 19:02.54 | OctopusGirl | nmschulte: ? |
| 19:02.55 | *** join/#debian LordDeath (~LordDeath@cable-81-173-164-27.netcologne.de) |
| 19:03.02 | nmschulte | < OctopusGirl> you look in my files and it's like this... |
| 19:03.05 | burek | i will, thanks MrSoll |
| 19:03.10 | *** join/#debian arif-ali (~arif-ali@94-192-24-56.zone6.bethere.co.uk) |
| 19:03.11 | OctopusGirl | Noticed I'm hiding behind a VPN too? haha |
| 19:03.13 | *** join/#debian mapf (~user@5.254.180.36) |
| 19:03.25 | nmschulte | I didn't notice. |
| 19:03.35 | nmschulte | How would I have? |
| 19:03.42 | burek | you're really stealth :) |
| 19:03.56 | OctopusGirl | Cause I joined here god knows how many times and my host contains "vpn"? |
| 19:03.59 | OctopusGirl | nmschulte: ^ |
| 19:04.12 | *** join/#debian Armand (~martin@cpc17-haye16-2-0-cust427.haye.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 19:04.25 | mwargh | themill: why |
| 19:04.32 | burek | MrSoll, will that thing be swapped as usual or it is a different thing |
| 19:04.34 | *** join/#debian FilipeMaia (~filipe@h136n4-u-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 19:04.48 | nmschulte | OctopusGirl: ah. I use a mask, :/ |
| 19:04.53 | ompaul | mwargh: how is that a debian related topic is the answer to your why |
| 19:05.05 | themill | mwargh: this is a debian user support channel; social and off-topic chatter goes to #defocus etc. |
| 19:05.42 | Sm0kEz | is Away (supper tyme!) @ 07:05:33pm |
| 19:05.42 | *** join/#debian DeusEx (~DeusEx@unaffiliated/deusex) |
| 19:05.43 | themill | dpkg: tell Sm0kEz about away |
| 19:05.43 | Sm0kEz | is away (supper tyme!) Gone: 2secs |
| 19:05.48 | MrSoll | burek: they're migrating towards tmpfs for a lot of filesystem parts and they take up "a lot" of IO-time |
| 19:05.59 | ompaul | Sm0kEz: we don't care do it silent please :) /away is the right command |
| 19:05.59 | Sm0kEz | is away (supper tyme!) Gone: 18secs |
| 19:06.03 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 19:06.04 | *** mode/#debian [+q *!*@95.147.120.225] by dondelelcaro |
| 19:06.04 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 19:06.11 | OctopusGirl | O.o |
| 19:06.18 | dondelelcaro | Sm0kEz: feel free to let us know when you've fixed your away, and we'll unsilence you |
| 19:06.18 | burek | well it's a smart move |
| 19:06.19 | *** join/#debian oy-tablet_ (~oy@g225209192.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 19:06.26 | *** join/#debian zykotick9 (~ZykoticK9@unaffiliated/zykotick9) |
| 19:06.28 | *** part/#debian dbelange (~dbelange@caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca) |
| 19:06.29 | *** join/#debian mysteriousdaren (~darren@199.190.240.160) |
| 19:06.34 | burek | put frequently used data into ram and it will speed up things a lot |
| 19:06.43 | MrSoll | burek: migrating /var/run and /var/lock can save already a lot of IO-time, butthey migrate /run as a standard |
| 19:06.56 | *** join/#debian tonetto (~tonetto@cisne-cn09.upc.es) |
| 19:06.58 | burek | yes yes, im reading it |
| 19:07.05 | burek | interesting topic :) |
| 19:07.19 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@178.16.15.193) |
| 19:07.36 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@unaffiliated/mentor) |
| 19:07.37 | dondelelcaro | it really won't save that much IO time; the real reason that /run is being used is because a ram based fs is the only filesystem you can be sure of having at early boot |
| 19:08.09 | dondelelcaro | and using a ram based filesystem also gets you out of having to deal with cleaning it at exactly the right time; that gets done for you automatically |
| 19:09.44 | MrSoll | dondelelcaro: so normal filesystems don't require cleaning? |
| 19:09.59 | *** join/#debian ersoy (~ersoy@unaffiliated/ersoy) |
| 19:12.28 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 19:12.47 | dondelelcaro | MrSoll: most other directories don't have temporary files in them which need to be removed at boot. |
| 19:13.14 | *** join/#debian DaveR (~The_Pugil@pool-71-254-7-119.burl.east.myfairpoint.net) |
| 19:13.22 | *** join/#debian CK__ (~Dev0n@host-2-103-162-226.as13285.net) |
| 19:14.47 | *** join/#debian MaddinXx (~racksteri@zux221-083-035.adsl.green.ch) |
| 19:16.52 | *** join/#debian Walex (~Walex@188.31.141.95.threembb.co.uk) |
| 19:18.07 | *** join/#debian Kortex- (~Kortex@53.122.204.77.rev.sfr.net) |
| 19:19.30 | *** join/#debian companion (~companion@unaffiliated/companion) |
| 19:20.10 | *** join/#debian oufo (~ET@46.246.215.19.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 19:20.25 | *** join/#debian Rienzilla (~rien@sinas.rename-it.nl) |
| 19:21.01 | MrSoll | dondelelcaro: so if I have /run I don't have clean up anymore even if a machine is running for months? |
| 19:21.31 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~Tom@p5DDFD921.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:21.36 | *** join/#debian herbyCologne (~herby@xdsl-87-78-143-207.netcologne.de) |
| 19:21.36 | dondelelcaro | MrSoll: /run doesn't need to be cleaned up; you may be thinking of /tmp, which may need to be cleaned. |
| 19:21.38 | *** join/#debian inri (~inri@c-98-246-29-197.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 19:21.55 | *** join/#debian Katafalkas (~Katafalka@78.60.170.249) |
| 19:22.20 | Rienzilla | Hello everyone. I would like my debian embedded system to automatically connect to a wireless network if it comes in range. (So there should be a list of network ssid's and keys, and if one of the ssid's is in range it should connect automatically). Is this possible? |
| 19:23.29 | OctopusGirl | Rienzilla: wicd is a network manager |
| 19:23.32 | *** join/#debian Vin100|Home (~vincent@private.compuscene.org) |
| 19:23.41 | OctopusGirl | it can be configured to connect to SSIDs automatically. |
| 19:23.42 | OctopusGirl | lol |
| 19:23.44 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1315] by debhelper |
| 19:23.56 | Rienzilla | OctopusGirl: ah okay, I came accross that but the debian docs said it was configured with a gui |
| 19:24.04 | Rienzilla | ...which the system does not have :) |
| 19:24.14 | *** join/#debian TheWarden (~chatzilla@70.76.37.58) |
| 19:24.16 | OctopusGirl | Rienzilla: no? |
| 19:24.20 | Rienzilla | but if I can configure it with configfiles I'll be fine |
| 19:24.24 | OctopusGirl | there is a TUI version too. |
| 19:24.30 | OctopusGirl | it's called "wicd-curses" |
| 19:24.33 | Rienzilla | ah |
| 19:24.35 | Rienzilla | okay, awesome |
| 19:24.38 | Rienzilla | thanks |
| 19:24.42 | OctopusGirl | Rienzilla: I have no GUI either. |
| 19:24.43 | OctopusGirl | lol |
| 19:24.47 | OctopusGirl | pure terminal here. |
| 19:24.51 | Rienzilla | hehe |
| 19:24.52 | OctopusGirl | http://ompldr.org/vZ28xYw |
| 19:24.57 | themill | steals OctopusGirl's enter key |
| 19:25.03 | OctopusGirl | O.o |
| 19:25.15 | Rienzilla | oh and does wicd take the network interface down (i.e. remove addressing and routes) if a network connection is lost? |
| 19:25.16 | OctopusGirl | themill: Nooooo I need it :( |
| 19:25.18 | *** join/#debian Deesl (~bsdboy@unaffiliated/deesl) |
| 19:25.34 | OctopusGirl | snatches her enter key back |
| 19:25.53 | OctopusGirl | Rienzilla: no |
| 19:25.53 | *** join/#debian lxsameer (~lxsameer@unaffiliated/lxsameer) |
| 19:25.54 | *** join/#debian scampbell_ (~scampbell@c-98-224-240-62.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 19:25.59 | OctopusGirl | it doesn't touch the interfaces. |
| 19:26.00 | Rienzilla | hmm |
| 19:26.19 | *** part/#debian lxsameer (~lxsameer@unaffiliated/lxsameer) |
| 19:26.27 | OctopusGirl | but Rienzilla you should remove NetworkManager as wicd would just replace it. |
| 19:26.35 | Rienzilla | networkmanager is not installed |
| 19:26.41 | OctopusGirl | okies. :3 |
| 19:26.42 | Rienzilla | at the moment it's just /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:26.47 | OctopusGirl | aaaah |
| 19:26.55 | OctopusGirl | Rienzilla: wicd will replace that too |
| 19:27.04 | Rienzilla | hmm |
| 19:27.08 | Rienzilla | can't I have both? :-) |
| 19:27.24 | Rienzilla | (i.e. I think networkmanager won't touch interfaces that are specified in interfaces) |
| 19:27.26 | OctopusGirl | Rienzilla: Yes but you should leave /etc/network/interfaces alone after that. |
| 19:27.43 | OctopusGirl | I have both too. |
| 19:27.49 | Rienzilla | hmkay |
| 19:27.53 | *** join/#debian nijm (~nick@94-195-228-200.zone9.bethere.co.uk) |
| 19:28.10 | Rienzilla | and how does wicd make sure the interface is configured on connect? hook scripts? |
| 19:28.14 | OctopusGirl | but I leave /etc/network/interfaces to make sure my interfaces are brought up at boot up. |
| 19:28.31 | OctopusGirl | Rienzilla: you configure the interface names in the wicd settings. |
| 19:28.34 | OctopusGirl | Eg... |
| 19:28.49 | OctopusGirl | if your wireless interface is wlan0 you have to tell wicd that. |
| 19:29.08 | OctopusGirl | and if your wired interface is eth0 you have to tell wicd that. |
| 19:29.18 | Rienzilla | yeah well I'll explain the situation |
| 19:29.33 | Rienzilla | currently, the machine has a ppp connection to the internet |
| 19:29.55 | Rienzilla | (the machine provides a network link for a mobile office) |
| 19:30.28 | Rienzilla | now, if the wifi card in the machine sees a certain wifi network, it should configure the wlan interface, and route traffic there, until wifi drops |
| 19:30.40 | MrSoll | dondelelcaro: but /tmp /var/run /var/lock are now also being cleaned on a reboot without /run and /tmp also doesn't have a clean-up script by default |
| 19:30.48 | OctopusGirl | right |
| 19:30.58 | OctopusGirl | Rienzilla: yes wicd I don't think touches PPP |
| 19:31.02 | Rienzilla | So I need the wlan interface configured only if there is wifi, and it should be deconfigured if there is no wifi (And i'll make sure the default route over the 3g connection has a higher metric) |
| 19:31.15 | OctopusGirl | wait... |
| 19:31.23 | OctopusGirl | this is serving wlan connections? |
| 19:31.27 | Rienzilla | no |
| 19:31.28 | OctopusGirl | oh |
| 19:31.32 | OctopusGirl | good |
| 19:31.43 | *** join/#debian BadCodSmell (~BadCodSme@pdpc/supporter/professional/badcodsmell) |
| 19:31.53 | Rienzilla | it's supposed to be useing either wifi or 3g as uplink |
| 19:32.01 | Rienzilla | (on the other end is old school copper :)) |
| 19:32.15 | Rienzilla | well I'll play around with wicd |
| 19:32.30 | OctopusGirl | Rienzilla: Do they have a conduit? |
| 19:32.39 | OctopusGirl | you can use copper lines to pull fibre lines through |
| 19:32.42 | OctopusGirl | I've done it myself |
| 19:33.07 | Rienzilla | they're buses :) |
| 19:33.07 | dondelelcaro | MrSoll: /tmp is now a tmpfs by default; it actually used to be cleaend by bootclean before /tmp was a tmpfs during early boot |
| 19:33.09 | BadCodSmell | Should I were to download a debinan netinstall iso to the harddrive on my computer, extract it and modify it, how would I go about them putting that onto a usb stick so that it is bootable with an UEFI BIOS? |
| 19:33.14 | OctopusGirl | I tied copper to fibre then pulled the copper out of the conduit it and it pulled the fibre through |
| 19:33.19 | Rienzilla | inside the bus is copper infra, but its uplink is wireless |
| 19:33.28 | OctopusGirl | I was fitting part of my family a new telephone line |
| 19:33.44 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1308] by debhelper |
| 19:33.48 | OctopusGirl | I'm not an engineer nor do I work for a telephone/ISP provider. |
| 19:33.50 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 19:33.59 | dondelelcaro | MrSoll: and yes, they could all be cleaned on boot, but with /run you'd still run into a problem where the filesystem that /var/run was on isn't mounted until later boot |
| 19:34.10 | OctopusGirl | Rienzilla: Right. |
| 19:34.18 | BadCodSmell | catting/dding the new iso to the usb says no |
| 19:34.26 | BadCodSmell | how can i make it say yes? |
| 19:34.30 | OctopusGirl | The place I know has 3 buildings and they're linked together via ruckus routers. |
| 19:34.54 | dondelelcaro | is personally a fan of using copper to pull tubes through and then blowing fiber, but whatever works |
| 19:35.33 | BadCodSmell | oh sorry I thought this was #debian but it turns out it is #defocus |
| 19:35.41 | BadCodSmell | wait no my bad its just there's a girl in the room |
| 19:35.50 | BadCodSmell | turning it into chitchat central |
| 19:36.20 | OctopusGirl | BadCodSmell: O.o |
| 19:36.40 | OctopusGirl | It's defo #debian lol |
| 19:37.11 | dondelelcaro | BadCodSmell: it's still #debian, and the gender of people here isn't really on topic. |
| 19:37.14 | *** join/#debian martxel (~martxel@187.85-86-50.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) |
| 19:37.31 | OctopusGirl | O.o |
| 19:37.44 | themill | BadCodSmell: #debian is here to provide professional help to people. Please be professional in return. |
| 19:37.44 | OctopusGirl | dondelelcaro: +1 for getting the right term. |
| 19:37.49 | OctopusGirl | most would say sex instead. |
| 19:37.55 | jelly-home | that was an unsubtle hint to move the network infrastructure talk elsewhere, regardless off the gender |
| 19:37.58 | themill | OctopusGirl: also OT. |
| 19:38.09 | *** join/#debian pikudoz (~pikudoz@190.235.101.219) |
| 19:38.37 | dondelelcaro | BadCodSmell: you can just dd or cat modern isos to usb devices for non-odd architectures |
| 19:38.54 | dondelelcaro | BadCodSmell: if it's not working, then you'll have to give us the exact error message you are getting |
| 19:39.04 | *** join/#debian sharky2 (~sharky@p5DD558A8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:39.27 | themill | dondelelcaro: (btw I think the tmp as tmpfs thing got killed by the "wahh that's not how unix used to do it" brigade) |
| 19:39.30 | *** join/#debian kyrix (~ashley@194-166-21-208.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 19:39.34 | BadCodSmell | It's hanging, are you saying, it should work with uefi? |
| 19:39.43 | *** join/#debian bambuss (~Miranda@2001:718:2:21:d0a0:1ffe:591:7177) |
| 19:39.51 | *** join/#debian Ghormoon (~Ghormoon@147.32.104.13) |
| 19:39.53 | dondelelcaro | BadCodSmell: I don't believe the squeeze netinsts will work out of the box with UEFI. |
| 19:40.15 | babilen | UEFI support was introduced in beta4 IIRC |
| 19:40.15 | *** join/#debian boven (~boven@85.24.141.138) |
| 19:40.35 | babilen | (wheezy beta4 that is -- http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/wheezy_di_beta4/) |
| 19:40.45 | *** join/#debian kyrix_ (~ashley@194-166-21-208.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 19:40.47 | dondelelcaro | babilen: right |
| 19:40.59 | dondelelcaro | (or sounds right; I don't have any UEFI hardware, so I haven't really been paying much attention to it) |
| 19:41.59 | *** join/#debian kyrix (~ashley@194-166-21-208.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 19:42.30 | burek | i was always using female nicks whenever i would need a fast help ^^ |
| 19:43.07 | BadCodSmell | That makes me wonder how debian 6.0.6 is one all of these machines (they have no hdds). I'll test the new iso in vbox. |
| 19:43.17 | Ghormoon | hi guys, I've never created any package and now I have to make package (which will correctly install and uninstall) in school lab ... I've got the perl script already, but I need to run it at startup (sort of a daemon) ... but I can't just call it from rc.local ... or how do I set it to run and then on uninstall how do I remove it correctly? I've read few howtos on the net, but most of them use rc.local ... |
| 19:43.31 | BadCodSmell | no cd drives* not hdds |
| 19:43.46 | *** join/#debian |thunder (~e@c-68-42-120-204.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 19:43.54 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 19:43.59 | BadCodSmell | You need /etc/init.d |
| 19:44.08 | BadCodSmell | See if there's a skeleton in there |
| 19:44.11 | themill | dpkg: tell Ghormoon about init script |
| 19:44.29 | themill | Ghormoon: in your package, you could use debhelper to install the init script correctly. |
| 19:44.35 | MrSoll | dondelelcaro: you mean the transparant mount problems with /run? with /var you have mount cycle 0 and the initscript to create VARRUN and VARLOCK in the first stage. But a lot still has to be done before before / (/var not included) can be really read-only |
| 19:44.59 | *** join/#debian trinathon (~deans-and@128.187.208.189) |
| 19:45.26 | BadCodSmell | ISO works on vbox so probably UEFI, thanks for confirming it probably isn't meant to work at this point. |
| 19:45.52 | Ghormoon | etc/init.d/scriptname to the structure? btw will it remove it automatically on uninstall or should I have sort of uninstall script? |
| 19:46.05 | *** join/#debian Tree_Hugger (~Tree_Hugg@71-33-222-96.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 19:46.33 | *** join/#debian suka_slayer (~suka_slay@134.17.29.15) |
| 19:46.33 | BadCodSmell | If you do it right, it should handle that for you, there's a way to say here is an init script, then it will do the rest for you. |
| 19:46.37 | dondelelcaro | Ghormoon: /etc/init.d/skeleton is an example; you can just stick that in debian/packagename.init, and dh_installinit will do the rigth thing |
| 19:46.48 | themill | Ghormoon: init scripts are conffiles meaning that they are removed in the "purge" phase not the "remove" phase of packge uninstallation. |
| 19:46.55 | BadCodSmell | Personally, to figure this stuff out, I usually grab a source package and see how that is done. |
| 19:47.15 | themill | Ghormoon: but yes, apt/dpkg will remove the init script if asked to purge the package. |
| 19:47.41 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (angel@46.108.180.9) |
| 19:48.04 | *** join/#debian Theoden (~quassel@c-98-234-161-226.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 19:50.18 | MrSoll | g'day all |
| 19:50.28 | *** join/#debian smica (~smica@host-88-132-114-184.prtelecom.hu) |
| 19:51.06 | *** join/#debian subthalamus (~chatzilla@bou57-1-78-247-40-105.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:51.57 | cardiel | when i installed debian both anacron and cron was installed.. do i need both? |
| 19:52.19 | passstab | cardiel, yes |
| 19:52.28 | cardiel | passstab: ok, why ? |
| 19:53.14 | cardiel | i need both |
| 19:53.51 | Ghormoon | name should be script or script.pl? and how to tell it to run it as "perl script.pl"? |
| 19:53.59 | engla | anacron will catch up cron tasks that were missed due to downtime |
| 19:54.01 | passstab | anacron needs cron |
| 19:54.10 | passstab | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anacron |
| 19:54.41 | cardiel | engla: ok.. but i changed time for cron.dail in /etc/crontab but it didnt take effect, do i need to edit /etc/cron.d/anacron instead? |
| 19:55.28 | themill | Ghormoon: .pl is an implementation detail that's not important -- debian doesn't normally include such file extensions for things in /usr/bin. If the file has the correct first line (#!/usr/bin/perl) and is marked as executable, it can be run directly, not by invoking it through perl like that. |
| 19:55.32 | RichiH | themill: mainly the same, a bot more |
| 19:56.30 | themill | RichiH: so packages that are in the output of aptitude search ~o are "obsolete" i.e. left over from old releases or from soname bumps. They're never going to receive updates and you probably want to uninstall most/all of them. |
| 19:56.50 | *** join/#debian gnuian (~christian@149.142.243.162) |
| 19:57.43 | *** join/#debian a111 (~a111a111@host-2-98-96-54.as13285.net) |
| 19:57.44 | engla | cardiel: shouldn't be needed |
| 19:57.47 | Ghormoon | btw _any is ok at end of package name (architecture) or should i pick some? or skip it? |
| 19:58.14 | engla | any is not correct |
| 19:58.20 | themill | Ghormoon: how are you building this package? |
| 19:58.27 | *** join/#debian companion (~companion@unaffiliated/companion) |
| 19:59.08 | passstab | cardiel sorry, i don't know |
| 19:59.27 | *** join/#debian nodiscc (~baron@glo44-2-89-80-52-64.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 19:59.48 | jelly-home | thankful for dpkg -b foo . correctly naming his repackaged crap |
| 19:59.55 | Ghormoon | we were told to follow one article (it's on czech language, so i won't link it), they pack it there with "sudo dpkg-deb -b tmp nazev_0.1_i386.deb" |
| 20:00.08 | jhutchins_wk | I think the correct tag is noarch |
| 20:00.24 | *** join/#debian inri (~inri@c-98-246-29-197.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 20:00.27 | *** join/#debian wendelmineiro (~wendelmin@177.185.4.27) |
| 20:00.31 | jelly-home | Ghormoon: if you say "." instead of an explicit .deb name, it will name it on its own |
| 20:00.35 | *** join/#debian hansol (~hansol@unaffiliated/hansol) |
| 20:00.39 | themill | Ghormoon: that's a crude way of doing the packaging and not the way we would recommend building packages. |
| 20:00.43 | *** join/#debian Walex (~Walex@78-86-80-54.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 20:00.52 | RichiH | themill: to ask the other way round: how would you keep tabs on what needs updating? |
| 20:01.38 | cardiel | engla: ok i will just try then |
| 20:01.41 | cardiel | thanks |
| 20:01.43 | *** part/#debian ersoy (~ersoy@unaffiliated/ersoy) |
| 20:01.44 | *** join/#debian manatee2012 (~meanderin@pool-72-66-75-183.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 20:01.46 | *** join/#debian vrkalak (~vrkalak@67.41.13.151) |
| 20:01.51 | *** part/#debian hansol (~hansol@unaffiliated/hansol) |
| 20:01.57 | themill | RichiH: cron-apt mails me when packages get updated; when upgrading from oldstable to stable I get rid of obsolete packages; if tracking testing, I routinely search for ~o and ~c to do some spring cleaning. |
| 20:02.09 | *** join/#debian Marciofs1 (Marciofs1@201.47.155.114.static.gvt.net.br) |
| 20:02.27 | RichiH | themill: i meant wrt security updates |
| 20:02.31 | Ghormoon | I have this structure, hope it's correct ^^ http://pastebin.com/SUzQjkJg |
| 20:03.01 | themill | RichiH: cron-apt emails me. I outsource this work to the security team. |
| 20:03.15 | RichiH | email does not scale |
| 20:03.41 | Ghormoon | the .init shoult run it at boot then? or anything else to set up before creating package? |
| 20:04.16 | themill | RichiH: true. I do use the output of "aptitude search ~U" to maintain a metric of packages that need updating |
| 20:05.13 | *** join/#debian tramm (~tramm@161.166.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee) |
| 20:05.50 | *** join/#debian macan (~macan@189.125.221.105) |
| 20:05.59 | *** join/#debian sexyshape (~sexyshape@AAnnecy-551-1-397-164.w90-27.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 20:06.04 | *** join/#debian zir0faive (~zir0faive@cty37-1-78-214-92-19.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 20:06.12 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~DammitJim@99-75-56-77.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 20:06.30 | *** join/#debian _niCe_ (d5a5623c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.165.98.60) |
| 20:07.23 | _niCe_ | hi, i'm having some problemes with my locales, can anyone figure out what it could be? http://pastebin.com/0ifmDvdt - google won't realy help |
| 20:08.50 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@189-105-176-48.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 20:08.50 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@unaffiliated/soul-eater/x-4649632) |
| 20:08.58 | Ghormoon | why chmod 755 -R ./folder doesn't change the permissions? :( (I'm root) |
| 20:09.16 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 20:09.46 | dondelelcaro | _niCe_: uh... that looks like the OOM killer is activating |
| 20:09.54 | dondelelcaro | _niCe_: check dmesg |
| 20:10.06 | _niCe_ | Ghormoon is the folder mounted over network? |
| 20:10.15 | ompaul | _niCe_: run this locale-gen |
| 20:10.58 | *** join/#debian blackness (black@blackmajic.org) |
| 20:11.17 | Ghormoon | _niCe_: you're right, it's not network, but though virtualbox and I'e forgot about that ^^ |
| 20:11.52 | _niCe_ | ompaul [ 7477.352011] Out of memory: kill process 4269 (localedef) score 1446 or a child |
| 20:12.10 | ompaul | _niCe_: vps? |
| 20:12.16 | _niCe_ | MemFree: 86944 kB |
| 20:12.16 | tramm | I know I can specify Makefile target in Debian "rules" file like "$(MAKE) my_target" (I do that in "install" section). How can I specify the target in the same "rules" file so I wouldn't need to create a special Makefile? |
| 20:12.17 | _niCe_ | vps? |
| 20:12.29 | tramm | (It's a multi binary package.) |
| 20:12.30 | ompaul | virtual private server |
| 20:12.38 | _niCe_ | no, kvm |
| 20:12.53 | ompaul | krupt |
| 20:13.11 | *** join/#debian luki3k5 (~luki3k5@g231193126.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 20:13.45 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1301] by debhelper |
| 20:13.46 | *** join/#debian linduxed (~linduxed@194-14-0-85.serioustubes.org) |
| 20:13.47 | *** join/#debian nikola (~nikola@82.193.222.101) |
| 20:14.15 | _niCe_ | ompaul, what do you mean? |
| 20:14.31 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@c-98-210-252-110.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 20:14.52 | ompaul | _niCe_: it should work - if you can't generate locales info the box is not "right" |
| 20:15.03 | Ghormoon | well, lintian gives me about 5 errors and about 10 warnings, but at least I have some package :D |
| 20:15.57 | _niCe_ | ompaul, ok ... locale-gen doen't reset the ssh-connection but still doen't work ^^ |
| 20:16.01 | *** join/#debian simone (~simone@host27-147-dynamic.40-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 20:16.03 | Ghormoon | one of the warnings is unknown control file http-time.init ... |
| 20:16.22 | _niCe_ | ompaul, do you know what settings in kvm are wrong? |
| 20:16.50 | *** part/#debian luki3k5 (~luki3k5@g231193126.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 20:17.04 | ompaul | no |
| 20:17.17 | *** join/#debian bartus (~bartus@nat4-240.ghnet.pl) |
| 20:17.27 | themill | tramm: assuming you can't just list it as a dependency, "$(MAKE)-f debian/rules target" would work, I guess |
| 20:17.32 | *** join/#debian dawud (~dawud@206.red-80-26-195.adsl.dynamic.ccgg.telefonica.net) |
| 20:17.47 | Ghormoon | where should i have man? it says usr/sbin/man/man1/... is wrong |
| 20:18.33 | themill | Ghormoon: quite. You should look at other packages and see what they do. Look at the FHS that says where to put things (/msg dpkg fhs) and above all, use helpers that do these things right for you (/msg dpkg nmg) |
| 20:18.45 | _niCe_ | ompaul, now it worked >.< |
| 20:18.53 | _niCe_ | Generation complete. |
| 20:18.56 | Ghormoon | *sbin = share |
| 20:19.11 | *** join/#debian Fuz2y (~Fuz2y@a85-138-192-94.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 20:20.05 | tramm | themill, I'm not sure if I can or cannot list it as a dependency, anything I could google/read on that? |
| 20:20.25 | *** join/#debian Gerben (~Gerben@5ED7316D.cm-7-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 20:21.10 | themill | tramm: I just mean the "foo: bar" syntax for defining a target and then targets that are it's dependencies in the Makefile syntax. |
| 20:21.15 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben@63.107.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz) |
| 20:22.22 | *** join/#debian sandwitch (~sandwitch@31.136.120.91) |
| 20:24.10 | Ghormoon | is the unknow-control-file ok or not? other problems are only man related it seems ... |
| 20:24.16 | *** join/#debian Sthebig (Sthebig@unaffiliated/sthebig) |
| 20:24.53 | *** join/#debian sharky1 (~sharky@p579313CC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:25.21 | tramm | themill, I am having hard time to find out how I make those "foo: bar" style targets run in a "rules" file and how can I connect them to package names specified in "control" file. |
| 20:25.29 | Ghormoon | well, and some warnings in the .init :) |
| 20:25.29 | *** join/#debian cthuluh (jca@chomsky.autogeree.net) |
| 20:25.43 | *** join/#debian f8l (~f8l@81.219.166.100) |
| 20:26.10 | *** join/#debian |thunder (~e@c-68-42-120-204.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 20:26.12 | *** join/#debian richoidd (~richoiddd@74.113.238.18) |
| 20:26.16 | themill | Ghormoon: however it is you're building this package is wrong -- that unknown-control-file message tells us that. Sounds like you're not actually using debian/rules and debhelper to do this. Please read the new maintainer's guide |
| 20:26.19 | themill | dpkg: tell Ghormoon about nmg |
| 20:26.47 | *** join/#debian karlpinc` (~user@meme-net.meme.com) |
| 20:26.57 | themill | tramm: there's no link between package names in d/control and targets in d/rules |
| 20:27.02 | *** join/#debian r0tha_ (~r0tha@173.247.200.122) |
| 20:27.12 | *** join/#debian Granis` (~granis@c-18c2e455.017-509-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 20:27.32 | *** join/#debian TheWarden_ (~chatzilla@S0106e0469a3d83ef.ss.shawcable.net) |
| 20:28.28 | *** join/#debian Theoden_ (~quassel@c-98-234-161-226.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 20:28.32 | *** join/#debian jllo_ (~jllorente@share.basyskom.com) |
| 20:28.42 | *** join/#debian Tux (~tux@tropicalwikis/Frozen-Wind) |
| 20:29.06 | *** join/#debian tempspace_ (~tempspace@hellokittysuperhappyfuntime.com) |
| 20:29.19 | *** join/#debian martxel_ (~martxel@187.85-86-50.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) |
| 20:29.20 | *** join/#debian epsilon_ (textblase@raid1.net) |
| 20:29.49 | *** join/#debian grzeslaw_ (~grzeslaw@69.194.196.5) |
| 20:29.58 | *** join/#debian twobitsp1ite (~isaac@li24-165.members.linode.com) |
| 20:31.01 | Ghormoon | well, the package installs (and removes) the perl script and manpage, but nothing apperas in init.d :( |
| 20:31.14 | themill | sure. |
| 20:32.22 | *** join/#debian scampbell (~scampbell@c-98-224-240-62.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 20:33.10 | Ghormoon | seems I've missed something ^^ |
| 20:33.45 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1313] by debhelper |
| 20:33.49 | *** join/#debian cristian1 (~cristian@ares.emuadmin.com) |
| 20:34.14 | *** join/#debian zhvtar` (~zhvtar@beekmanbay.com) |
| 20:34.17 | *** join/#debian johskar_ (~johskar@h.skartland.net) |
| 20:34.31 | *** join/#debian companion_ (~companion@546AC427.cm-12-3d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 20:34.51 | *** join/#debian companion (~companion@unaffiliated/companion) |
| 20:34.59 | themill | Ghormoon: quite. We've been telling you for over half an hour that this the wrong way to build a package and have pointed you to a good guide to get you started on this. |
| 20:35.38 | Ghormoon | what's wrong except that init script? |
| 20:35.59 | Ghormoon | I think I have rest of the directory structure at least somehow correct ^^ |
| 20:36.01 | *** join/#debian milobit (~milobit@unaffiliated/milobit) |
| 20:36.10 | themill | no. |
| 20:36.59 | Ghormoon | what's wrong there? |
| 20:37.22 | *** join/#debian markatto (~markatto@marktmerritt.com) |
| 20:38.01 | *** join/#debian tolkor (~rj@tdream.lly.earlham.edu) |
| 20:38.20 | *** join/#debian ph8 (~ph8@94.75.239.198) |
| 20:38.42 | *** join/#debian ^MoL0ToV (~g@194.105.50.24) |
| 20:38.44 | *** join/#debian firecode_ (~irc@177.106.130.94) |
| 20:39.42 | tramm | themill, ok, let's put it this way... If I in "override_dh_install" specify more than one package with "dh_install -p packagename", how can I run different install scripts for different packages? |
| 20:40.11 | *** join/#debian aindilis` (~aindilis@173-165-36-107-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 20:40.25 | *** join/#debian ferret__ (~ferret@gentoo/user/ferret) |
| 20:40.26 | themill | tramm: can you pastebin your current rules file? It's too hard to do this as a hypothetical |
| 20:40.26 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 20:40.35 | *** join/#debian sandwitch (~sandwitch@193.172.124.196) |
| 20:40.38 | *** join/#debian elena_IK (~elena@84.200.211.204) |
| 20:40.40 | *** join/#debian sysrqalt1 (~brock@c-67-171-189-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 20:40.42 | *** join/#debian ghenry (~ghenry@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/ghenry) |
| 20:40.48 | *** join/#debian nikola (~nikola@82.193.222.101) |
| 20:40.48 | *** join/#debian phenom_ (~L7@ip69.50-31-0.static.steadfastdns.net) |
| 20:40.50 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 20:40.51 | *** join/#debian mhi1 (~mhi@pd95b104a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:41.05 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@189-105-176-48.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 20:41.05 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@unaffiliated/soul-eater/x-4649632) |
| 20:41.06 | *** join/#debian althalus (~althalus@c-76-27-234-59.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 20:41.07 | *** join/#debian MortenTemp (~morten@212.130.47.184) |
| 20:41.18 | *** join/#debian somiaj_ (~jaimos@50-0-83-73.dsl.static.sonic.net) |
| 20:41.37 | *** join/#debian GabrieleV_ (~GabrieleV@host190-79-static.230-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 20:41.40 | *** join/#debian Probeus_ (~probeus@probeus.no) |
| 20:41.48 | *** join/#debian Kaede_ (~Kaede@unaffiliated/kaede) |
| 20:41.58 | *** join/#debian macan (~macan@189.125.221.105) |
| 20:42.02 | *** join/#debian wjtaylor (~wjtaylor@c-24-34-23-78.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 20:42.05 | *** join/#debian dzan_ (~dzan@78-21-223-50.access.telenet.be) |
| 20:42.09 | *** join/#debian Gurty (~princess@ALyon-256-1-223-189.w109-212.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 20:42.11 | *** join/#debian pikudoz (~pikudoz@190.235.101.219) |
| 20:42.12 | *** join/#debian diniwed (~gavron@ool-ad023327.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 20:42.15 | *** join/#debian Quix0r (~quix0r@dslb-178-001-014-069.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 20:42.21 | *** join/#debian wtatsuru (~tatsuru@www12135ue.sakura.ne.jp) |
| 20:42.24 | *** join/#debian dura_ (~dura@cpc3-live12-0-0-cust114.know.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 20:42.29 | *** join/#debian Tr4sK_ (~tr4sk@tony.biboum.fr) |
| 20:42.32 | *** join/#debian blackes__ (~blackest_@98.158.125.38) |
| 20:42.33 | *** join/#debian jareth__ (~X@a83-161-152-176.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 20:42.36 | *** join/#debian Dalvini_ (~Duncan@tristramg.eu) |
| 20:42.38 | *** join/#debian hallucin1um (~hallicini@81.56.60.28) |
| 20:42.38 | *** join/#debian yogurt2ungue (~yogurt2un@host138.181-14-201.telecom.net.ar) |
| 20:42.39 | *** join/#debian bzrk_ (~bzrk@baal.lab6.org) |
| 20:42.48 | *** join/#debian m4g (marcus@unaffiliated/m4ggus) |
| 20:42.48 | *** join/#debian ozux_ (~ozux@pso-132.picsearch.com) |
| 20:42.51 | *** join/#debian a111 (~a111a111@host-2-98-96-54.as13285.net) |
| 20:42.52 | *** join/#debian rmayorga_ (~rmayorga@debian/developer/rmayorga) |
| 20:42.52 | *** join/#debian Mr_Queue_ (~Mr_Queue@nemo.centos6server.com) |
| 20:42.52 | *** join/#debian kroyeren_ (~kroyeren@cloudia.kroyeren.dk) |
| 20:42.56 | *** join/#debian Hotwired (~ed@unaffiliated/hotwire) |
| 20:42.59 | *** join/#debian soldicon_ (~soldicon@unaffiliated/soldicon) |
| 20:43.01 | *** join/#debian cbmuser_ (~glaubitz@squeeze64.physik.fu-berlin.de) |
| 20:43.07 | *** join/#debian yeehaw (~yeehaw@frank.cyso.net) |
| 20:43.09 | *** join/#debian blueyed (~daniel@hahler.de) |
| 20:43.12 | *** join/#debian wu_lmao (~wu_lmao@unaffiliated/wu-lmao/x-9069391) |
| 20:43.13 | *** join/#debian Gerben (~Gerben@5ED7316D.cm-7-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 20:43.17 | *** join/#debian staykov_ (~staykov@staykov.xen.prgmr.com) |
| 20:43.20 | *** join/#debian rodrigods (~rodrigods@unaffiliated/rodrigods) |
| 20:43.21 | *** join/#debian ineiros_ (~itniemin@li271-145.members.linode.com) |
| 20:43.32 | *** join/#debian Trellmor_ (~Trellmor@server2.dgb-gaming.com) |
| 20:43.38 | *** join/#debian linduxed (~linduxed@194-14-0-85.serioustubes.org) |
| 20:43.43 | *** join/#debian Dad`_ (~Dad@unaffiliated/dad/x-6432127) |
| 20:43.45 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1345] by debhelper |
| 20:43.45 | *** join/#debian swatti- (x@dsl51B689CE.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 20:43.45 | *** join/#debian airk_ (~airk@erik.roxen.com) |
| 20:43.55 | *** join/#debian sepisult1um (xy5dbgmwyp@hcl-club.lu) |
| 20:43.55 | *** join/#debian aah (~user@gateway/tor-sasl/user54321) |
| 20:44.07 | *** join/#debian Giant_enemy_crab (beaver@crabhost.org) |
| 20:44.13 | *** join/#debian nathanhi- (~nathanhi@deepserve.info) |
| 20:44.37 | *** join/#debian Krabbe_ (~Krabbe2@77.37.11.207) |
| 20:44.39 | *** join/#debian eric`` (eric@bnc.api.pixz.eu) |
| 20:45.01 | *** join/#debian Subfusc_ (~Subfusc@tjenen.de) |
| 20:45.06 | *** join/#debian Sidze_ (~Sidze@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-129.63.wb.wifirst.net) |
| 20:45.08 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~mang0@client-86-29-248-79.pete.adsl.virginmedia.com) |
| 20:45.08 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~mang0@unaffiliated/mang0) |
| 20:45.41 | *** join/#debian jhutchin1_wk (~jonathan@64-151-37-66.dyn.everestkc.net) |
| 20:45.45 | *** join/#debian elky` (elky@ubuntu/member/pdpc.professional.elky) |
| 20:45.53 | *** join/#debian Guest30417 (~jsec@jsec.me) |
| 20:45.58 | *** join/#debian finkata (~finkata@77.85.252.41) |
| 20:46.35 | *** join/#debian cian15001w (~cian1500w@109.200.20.155) |
| 20:46.35 | *** join/#debian cian15001w (~cian1500w@unaffiliated/cian1500ww) |
| 20:46.50 | *** join/#debian grn_ (grn@gateway/shell/mydevil.net/x-rnmspobjpzijyare) |
| 20:46.51 | *** join/#debian Trolltas1 (~aldhissla@h120n12-sde-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 20:47.22 | *** join/#debian s4muel_ (~s4muel@ec2-174-129-235-249.compute-1.amazonaws.com) |
| 20:47.41 | *** join/#debian firecode (~irc@unaffiliated/firecode) |
| 20:47.45 | *** join/#debian jamie90234 (~pias00@206.191.57.58) |
| 20:47.52 | *** join/#debian Cyclohexane_ (cyclohexan@199.19.226.67) |
| 20:48.28 | *** join/#debian mrrothhcloud__ (u4697@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dqhgjqtgniufrfnw) |
| 20:48.32 | *** join/#debian k4tfish (~caff7@reniced.net) |
| 20:48.42 | *** join/#debian r3m (~r3m@irssi/user/r3m) |
| 20:49.11 | *** join/#debian iliv (~iliv@195.88.15.2) |
| 20:49.17 | *** join/#debian LordDeath (~LordDeath@cable-81-173-164-27.netcologne.de) |
| 20:49.35 | *** join/#debian darkc0met (darkcomet@gateway/shell/trekweb.org/x-ysqympcqycqkoojp) |
| 20:50.01 | *** join/#debian tremon (~aschuring@d594e6a3.dsl.concepts.nl) |
| 20:50.08 | *** join/#debian pseubodot (~p-dot@nat.noc.utoronto.ca) |
| 20:50.09 | *** join/#debian pseubodot (~p-dot@unaffiliated/pseubodot) |
| 20:50.26 | *** join/#debian IFightForTheUser (~IFightFor@unaffiliated/ifightfortheuser) |
| 20:50.45 | *** join/#debian Cybertinus (~Cybertinu@2001:828:405:30:83:96:177:42) |
| 20:50.46 | IFightForTheUser | http://img1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/orig/12/34715505880-orig.png <- debian testing trying to install mysql |
| 20:50.46 | *** join/#debian oufo (~ET@46.246.215.19.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 20:50.57 | IFightForTheUser | errors |
| 20:51.08 | *** join/#debian doublehp (~DoubleHP@2a01:e35:8ba8:e140::52) |
| 20:51.09 | *** join/#debian miadbahrami (~miadbahra@130.255.232.110) |
| 20:51.09 | *** join/#debian fleeky (~fleeky@75-101-60-122.dsl.static.sonic.net) |
| 20:51.09 | *** join/#debian ron-slc (~Ron@173-165-129-125-utah.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 20:51.12 | *** join/#debian vivid (~ViViD@c-76-104-215-159.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 20:51.17 | *** join/#debian alexim (~alexim@199.231.242.26) |
| 20:51.29 | *** join/#debian Fuz2y (~Fuz2y@a85-138-192-94.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 20:51.33 | OctopusGirl | IFightForTheUser: apt-get install mysql-server |
| 20:51.42 | *** join/#debian atomfire (~atomfire@116.sub-70-199-228.myvzw.com) |
| 20:51.43 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@88.233.87.228) |
| 20:51.43 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 20:52.09 | *** join/#debian gartenstu (~gs@85.214.232.44) |
| 20:52.09 | *** join/#debian e-anima (~eanima@p5DD8FA2C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:52.13 | doublehp | is there an ext3 chan, or can i ask my ext3 question here ? |
| 20:52.19 | IFightForTheUser | OctopusGirl, that's what I did. |
| 20:52.40 | OctopusGirl | but IFightForTheUser I can't view that image cause I've not GUI. lol |
| 20:52.41 | jhutchin1_wk | doublehp: You can ask the question here. Whether we can answer... |
| 20:52.52 | *** join/#debian Red_M (~potato@unaffiliated/red-m/x-93568202) |
| 20:53.08 | tramm | themill, I'm stuck in something like that: http://paste.debian.net/216090/ |
| 20:53.09 | babilen | IFightForTheUser: The "No space left on device" error message might give a clue as to what is wrong. Could you paste the output of "df -h" to http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 20:53.15 | doublehp | on a given disk, "dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/plop bs=1M count=1000" is 3 times slower on ext3 than on vfat; WTF ? |
| 20:53.16 | themill | IFightForTheUser: "no space left on device" is pretty clear. |
| 20:53.28 | OctopusGirl | jhutchin1_wk: whether we can answer depends on if he means the ext3 file system. lol |
| 20:53.38 | doublehp | themill: no, "no space means", run tune2fs -r 0 :D |
| 20:53.45 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1336] by debhelper |
| 20:53.51 | *** join/#debian stackofcats (~stackofca@unaffiliated/stackofcats) |
| 20:53.55 | babilen | slaps doublehp |
| 20:54.13 | OctopusGirl | slaps doublehp |
| 20:54.36 | doublehp | btw, my question about speed is serious ! |
| 20:54.59 | themill | doublehp: think about what tune2fs does and what user dpkg is running as. |
| 20:55.11 | *** join/#debian jmspeex (~jm@mf4-xiph.osuosl.org) |
| 20:55.30 | IFightForTheUser | hm |
| 20:55.33 | *** join/#debian CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@188-180-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) |
| 20:55.41 | IFightForTheUser | I think I did the guided partitioning wrong. |
| 20:55.44 | IFightForTheUser | http://img1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/orig/12/34715562915-orig.png |
| 20:56.03 | IFightForTheUser | it's a 2gb disk I'm installing to |
| 20:56.07 | OctopusGirl | geez stop using images and use a pastebin or something! :/ |
| 20:56.32 | *** join/#debian herbyCologne (~herby@xdsl-78-35-87-152.netcologne.de) |
| 20:56.36 | IFightForTheUser | You just have to click and look. What difference does it make to you? |
| 20:56.56 | IFightForTheUser | 'geez' (wound up a little too tight there, aren't ya?) |
| 20:57.01 | OctopusGirl | IFightForTheUser: I clearly stated earlier that I have no GUI. |
| 20:57.08 | IFightForTheUser | Then don't try to assit me? |
| 20:57.14 | IFightForTheUser | Why pick an argument over nothing. |
| 20:57.18 | *** join/#debian libto_ (~libto@essn-4d09c891.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 20:57.26 | IFightForTheUser | Help someone else, |
| 20:57.26 | grzeslaw_ | IFightForTheUser: made some free space on /usr/ partition |
| 20:57.29 | Brigo | hi, anybody has a link to migrate a mysql server to a container, stopping the database first? |
| 20:57.30 | OctopusGirl | fine I'm just a stupid silly octopus. |
| 20:57.32 | *** join/#debian glebihan_ (~glebihan@unaffiliated/glebihan) |
| 20:57.41 | *** join/#debian bammzach (~bammzach@gateway/tor-sasl/bammzach) |
| 20:57.47 | *** join/#debian phenom_ (~L7@unaffiliated/phenom) |
| 20:57.47 | grzeslaw_ | IFightForTheUser: you have 100% in use, so you are not albe to install mysql |
| 20:57.48 | babilen | IFightForTheUser: It makes a huge difference as we can actually select text, copy it somewhere, alter it and *everybody* can read text (as opposed to pictures) |
| 20:57.49 | IFightForTheUser | grzeslaw_, hm, I'm thinking of reinstalling the vm, just one partition |
| 20:57.56 | IFightForTheUser | w/ seperate /home |
| 20:58.02 | IFightForTheUser | shouldn't take more than 10 min to redo. |
| 20:58.02 | ompaul | IFightForTheUser: give it a rest, do an automatic partition of your disk and have fun |
| 20:58.04 | themill | tramm: something like http://paste.debian.net/216092/ ? |
| 20:58.10 | babilen | IFightForTheUser: Either way: You need to enlarge a bunch of those partitions (or reinstall) |
| 20:58.33 | grzeslaw_ | IFightForTheUser: you could. If you you are playing this os for fun just made one parition / and thats it |
| 20:58.35 | OctopusGirl | babilen: |
| 20:58.46 | OctopusGirl | babilen: +999 for what you said to IFightForTheUser. |
| 20:59.09 | babilen | IFightForTheUser: It makes sense for servers to have a separate /var to protect it from overflowing logfiles. I would recommend to use that |
| 20:59.12 | IFightForTheUser | grzeslaw_, ok. I had originally decided that, but somewhere along the way I picked guided w/ multiple partitions. |
| 20:59.18 | confusid | Are there any disassembler programs already ported into debian? |
| 20:59.21 | grzeslaw_ | IFightForTheUser: and maybe first try to clean the sources apt-get clean or autoclean |
| 20:59.26 | IFightForTheUser | babilen, it's a personal lamp I'm setting up |
| 20:59.45 | IFightForTheUser | gr, I do that after each package install |
| 20:59.47 | IFightForTheUser | clean the cache |
| 21:00.09 | babilen | IFightForTheUser: The guided partitioning is, well, not really optimal in regard to the partition sizes. Just think about your partition scheme and configure it manually (or alter the automatic one) |
| 21:00.50 | babilen | grzeslaw_: That won't free any space in /usr -- And 600MB is really not enough for /usr anyway :) |
| 21:01.15 | grzeslaw_ | babilen: agree |
| 21:01.25 | *** join/#debian xwalk (~xwalk@d47-69-35-236.try.wideopenwest.com) |
| 21:01.53 | IFightForTheUser | Perhaps auto partitioning should take smaller disks into account and partition accordingly. |
| 21:01.54 | grzeslaw_ | babilen: sory I mistkae var with usr ;] |
| 21:02.13 | ompaul | IFightForTheUser: it will make 2 a / and swap |
| 21:02.30 | *** join/#debian oy-tablet_ (~oy@g225209192.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 21:02.38 | IFightForTheUser | ompaul, depending on the option you choose, sure. |
| 21:02.42 | ompaul | unless you have really good reason you don't need to partition more - if the DB is serious correct management and backups will take care of it |
| 21:02.51 | IFightForTheUser | Guided partitioning came w/ 3 options in avdanced mode |
| 21:02.55 | *** join/#debian Growly (~Growly@60-242-30-247.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 21:03.06 | IFightForTheUser | The third option to create sep partitions for everything on 2gb disk fucked me. |
| 21:03.09 | IFightForTheUser | no biggie, I got this. |
| 21:03.11 | IFightForTheUser | ty |
| 21:03.16 | *** join/#debian iorivur (~quassel@2001:200:0:7c0a:21f:e1ff:fec9:d838) |
| 21:03.32 | *** join/#debian Sebj71 (~Sebj@93-45-193-110.ip103.fastwebnet.it) |
| 21:03.35 | *** join/#debian sebuba (~sebuba@unaffiliated/sebuba) |
| 21:03.38 | Sebj71 | ciao |
| 21:03.40 | Sebj71 | !list |
| 21:03.41 | dpkg | sebj71: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.6-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
| 21:03.46 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1294] by debhelper |
| 21:03.59 | IFightForTheUser | trying the gui installer this time |
| 21:05.08 | *** join/#debian Jdbye|Laptop (~furry4lif@ti0010a380-dhcp1283.bb.online.no) |
| 21:05.24 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben@63.107.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz) |
| 21:05.53 | IFightForTheUser | http://img1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/orig/12/34716063893-orig.png |
| 21:05.53 | babilen | *sigh* |
| 21:06.07 | IFightForTheUser | You want me to copy paste from the gui installer? |
| 21:06.09 | IFightForTheUser | ok. |
| 21:06.11 | IFightForTheUser | Find a way and I will. |
| 21:06.15 | babilen | IFightForTheUser: Looks better, but note my remarks regarding /var earlier |
| 21:06.24 | IFightForTheUser | babilen, ok. |
| 21:06.32 | Arrowmaster | i did a guided install on an 8gb flash drive, the swap partition was larger than the single / partition and it didnt have enough room to install any DE |
| 21:06.46 | *** join/#debian macan (~macan@189.125.221.200) |
| 21:06.58 | *** join/#debian carif (~mcarifio@eth3.bismuth.canonical.com) |
| 21:07.00 | IFightForTheUser | Arrowmaster, yeah, guided partitions sucks dick. |
| 21:07.03 | babilen | yeah, guided partitioning is pretty much useless .. /me wonders if anybody will fix that in time for wheezy |
| 21:07.06 | IFightForTheUser | Arrowmaster, do it yourself. |
| 21:07.10 | *** join/#debian grim21 (~joe@CPE-69-23-60-245.natcky.res.rr.com) |
| 21:07.12 | IFightForTheUser | babilen, hah, I JUST concluded that. |
| 21:07.14 | IFightForTheUser | ;) |
| 21:07.15 | babilen | IFightForTheUser: Please try to keep it civil in here, thank you |
| 21:07.17 | Arrowmaster | probably not, its always been like that |
| 21:07.28 | jhutchin1_wk | It could get better. |
| 21:07.49 | IFightForTheUser | Debian has never had a rule against cursing. I'm not cursing AT someone, so relax. |
| 21:07.50 | *** join/#debian mint_ (~mint@93-44-76-167.ip96.fastwebnet.it) |
| 21:07.53 | mint_ | hi there |
| 21:08.01 | Arrowmaster | yeah when i installed to my 640GB drive i tweaked it to be 20GB / and 15GB swap, rest /home |
| 21:08.03 | mint_ | Could anyone tell me which kernel has the last Debian 6.0 Stable ? |
| 21:08.04 | mint_ | thanks |
| 21:08.06 | ompaul | well the rule for swap is semi useful - disk - (2x ram) |
| 21:08.07 | jhutchin1_wk | Perhaps we could add a default "simple partitioning scheme - choose this if you do not know where you need space" (default). |
| 21:08.17 | Arrowmaster | the guided gave about 15GB /, 10GB swap, rest /home |
| 21:08.28 | jhutchin1_wk | ,kernels |
| 21:08.29 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.6-trunk-686-pae (3.6.9-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.35-1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.32-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.32-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-46); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-29) |
| 21:08.30 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc1-nott14-2-0-cust345.12-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 21:08.51 | Arrowmaster | it kinda annoys me that the installer uses base10 units |
| 21:09.01 | jhutchin1_wk | Arrowmaster: Which would be completely wrong for a webserver, for instance. |
| 21:09.55 | Arrowmaster | for any server i would put /srv on its own partition and put everything in there |
| 21:09.58 | mint_ | Does anyone knows if I Install Linux Mint Debian and I upgrade which Kernel version will I get ? |
| 21:10.09 | *** join/#debian tech_ (~tech@74.254.68.126) |
| 21:10.32 | jhutchin1_wk | mint_: No, we only know what will happen if you install Debian. Mint is not Debian, even though they use the name. |
| 21:10.34 | kaosu | Just a question (not to be negatively implied) why is Debian trying to become more "user-friendly"? I think it has always been user-friendly with its incredible documentation, but it feels like upcoming installation and maintenance features are beginning to reflect a more "ease of use" attitude. |
| 21:10.39 | Arrowmaster | i wish debian used /srv more but i dont think anything in debian ever uses it by default |
| 21:10.54 | IFightForTheUser | haha, omg. mint debian people coming here to ask support. I can't imagine what you guys must go through. |
| 21:11.05 | jhutchin1_wk | kaosu: It's not really Debian that's doing that, it's upstream. |
| 21:11.16 | IFightForTheUser | I've tried a bunch of debian based distros and always end up w/ debian |
| 21:11.31 | IFightForTheUser | everything else is ... 'tainted'. |
| 21:11.31 | mint_ | jhutchin1_wk: why you say that Mint Debian is not Debian? It's based on DEbian and it's claimed to be 100% compatible with it |
| 21:11.35 | jhutchin1_wk | kaosu: It seems like there's always a struggle between "Dumb it down for idiots" and "make it useful even if you have to read the manual". |
| 21:11.37 | tech_ | well, I'm happy to have them here, if we can help them |
| 21:11.48 | ompaul | !mint |
| 21:11.48 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
| 21:11.49 | mint_ | jhutchin1_wk: if you check the Mint Debian documentation it's wrote in clear text |
| 21:11.50 | Arrowmaster | mint_: its still not debian, thus #debian cannot support it |
| 21:11.56 | jhutchin1_wk | mint_: It's not. Debian is Debian, Mint is Mint. |
| 21:12.04 | *** join/#debian haole (~user@201.85.114.130) |
| 21:12.08 | mint_ | wow |
| 21:12.20 | jhutchin1_wk | mint_: Just because it's on the internet doesn't mean it's true. For Mint support please contact Mint. |
| 21:12.25 | haole | dev question: is it still worth to become an autotools guru or is it still only widely used for legacy reasons? |
| 21:12.27 | tech_ | the way I see it, at least they're using Linux |
| 21:12.41 | grim21 | Is wheezy still tracking on releasing with GNOME 3 as default? There was debate about XFCE at one point |
| 21:12.50 | jhutchin1_wk | mint_: If it were debian, why would it be mint? |
| 21:13.09 | mint_ | jhutchin1_wk: ok don't fight, you should tell to the Mint devolpers that they don't have to put on their documentation that debian assistance works for mint debian distro |
| 21:13.20 | *** join/#debian TheLive1 (~rizvis@94.203.73.27) |
| 21:13.24 | jhutchin1_wk | grim21: It's a mattter of the size of the install CD - for the CD image I believe it's going to be xfce. |
| 21:13.32 | mint_ | jhutchin1_wk: thanks for your attention anyway |
| 21:13.47 | *** join/#debian iorivur (~quassel@2001:200:0:7c03:21f:e1ff:fec9:d838) |
| 21:13.59 | Arrowmaster | the beta4 DVD has gnome3 |
| 21:13.59 | jhutchin1_wk | mint_: Yeah, sorry they do that but it just ain't so. We don't know what they change or how, but if they didn't make changes it wouldn't be mint. |
| 21:14.01 | grim21 | excellent. ty |
| 21:14.13 | zykotick9 | jhutchin1_wk: wheezy b4 netinstall, still select Gnome if you use the "desktop environment" tasksel? is it really a size issue then? |
| 21:14.24 | jhutchin1_wk | mint_: On the other hand, you could just install Debian, then we could help. |
| 21:14.28 | *** join/#debian rgr (~user@dslb-188-108-002-195.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 21:14.50 | Arrowmaster | mint_: cinnamon is in unstable now |
| 21:14.52 | *** part/#debian IsaacHaze (~opera@g77045.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 21:15.00 | jhutchin1_wk | zykotick9: That's what I heard. Not able to get Gnome3 + enough other stuff on the CD size ISO. |
| 21:15.04 | *** join/#debian Mitts (~timo@MEN-AI2-141-039.wcta.net) |
| 21:15.07 | *** join/#debian edog (~edog@86.57.150.104) |
| 21:15.13 | jhutchin1_wk | zykotick9: netinstall is infinite in size. |
| 21:15.36 | *** join/#debian glebihan (~glebihan@unaffiliated/glebihan) |
| 21:15.37 | mint_ | Arrowmaster: and mate ? I tought that cinnamon was DE |
| 21:15.41 | zykotick9 | jhutchin1_wk: interesting way to look at it - i always thought it was really small ;) |
| 21:15.44 | Arrowmaster | hell squeeze had trouble getting enough stuff on the first install CD, network-manager-gnome was shoved onto CD3 i think |
| 21:15.55 | *** mode/#debian [+o eir] by ChanServ |
| 21:15.56 | *** mode/#debian [-qo *!*@95.147.120.225 eir] by eir |
| 21:16.24 | Arrowmaster | mint_: yeah cinnamon is the gnome3 modifications that mint uses, mate is the gnome2 fork mate uses but its not available in debian |
| 21:16.46 | jhutchin1_wk | I thought cinnamon was the updated fork of kde3. |
| 21:17.31 | Arrowmaster | no its gnome3, im running it right now, not bad and so much better than default gnome3 |
| 21:17.40 | *** join/#debian Zvpun (~micha@unaffiliated/zvpun) |
| 21:17.53 | Zvpun | Is there a java plugin for iceweasel (preferable from openjdk-7)? |
| 21:18.16 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 21:18.18 | Arrowmaster | yes but i cannot recall its name |
| 21:18.24 | zykotick9 | gnome-shell, incouraged me to return to a window manager instead of a DE |
| 21:18.35 | bammzach | iirc cinnamon is based on gnomeshell |
| 21:18.38 | Ghormoon | mi to ten init script v baliku nezere |
| 21:19.11 | Zvpun | should I use openjdk or oracles java if I want to have java in iceweasel? |
| 21:19.14 | haole | I migrated from XMonad + XFCE to the Gnome 3 (gnome-shell) |
| 21:19.16 | *** join/#debian escott (~escott@c-68-40-187-148.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 21:19.16 | Arrowmaster | Zvpun: icedtea-plugin is the name but it looks like openjdk-6 only |
| 21:19.28 | haole | I'm more productive in Gnome 3... it's very, very nice, although not very stable yet |
| 21:20.00 | Ghormoon | I give up ... I just don't get it ... will it work if i make the init script and links manually? :-/ |
| 21:20.03 | *** join/#debian roboman2444 (~roboman24@unaffiliated/roboman2444) |
| 21:20.22 | Zvpun | Arrowmaster: so I should deinstall openjdk an install icedtea or what is the connection between the two? |
| 21:20.29 | zykotick9 | Zvpun: fyi, it's icedtea-7-plugin in wheezy... |
| 21:20.34 | Arrowmaster | icedtea used openjdk |
| 21:20.47 | *** join/#debian Kaede_ (~Kaede@unaffiliated/kaede) |
| 21:20.56 | *** join/#debian tech_ (~tech@74.254.68.126) |
| 21:20.57 | Arrowmaster | and i have to run and pick somebody up |
| 21:20.57 | *** join/#debian gartenstuhl (~gs@85.214.232.44) |
| 21:21.03 | Zvpun | thanks |
| 21:21.14 | jhutchin1_wk | Ghormoon: Insufficient data. Please explain. |
| 21:21.53 | jhutchin1_wk | jdk = java DEVELOPMENT KIT - should not be necessary for RUNNING pre-coded java. (This is often not true.) |
| 21:21.53 | Ghormoon | I'm trying to make package for last few hours and I've still didn't manage to make it correctly, expecially the init script, lintian complains it's not there even though it is ^^ |
| 21:22.10 | *** part/#debian grzeslaw_ (~grzeslaw@69.194.196.5) |
| 21:22.13 | *** join/#debian streuner (~streuner@mnhm-4d01b8e8.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 21:22.20 | *** join/#debian tom___ (~tom@93.186.148.199) |
| 21:22.43 | jhutchin1_wk | Ghormoon: You could always try following the directions you were given earlier. |
| 21:23.18 | Ghormoon | I've tried, but seems I've missed some in mantime ... |
| 21:23.57 | Ghormoon | is it name.init or name.version.init? |
| 21:24.05 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~DammitJim@99-75-56-77.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:25.02 | Ghormoon | and with debhelper I've managed to fuck it up toalyy with toms of unknown-control-file ^^ |
| 21:26.07 | *** join/#debian b_52globe (~b_52globe@41.141.148.201) |
| 21:26.18 | Ghormoon | I have to go from school, I'll be here in about 30-60 minutes |
| 21:26.25 | Ghormoon | maybe in meantime in bus |
| 21:27.11 | *** join/#debian o1e (~kvirc@p5DD0F035.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:28.40 | *** part/#debian bammzach (~bammzach@gateway/tor-sasl/bammzach) |
| 21:29.09 | *** join/#debian esing (~philipp@dslb-084-058-039-128.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 21:30.15 | *** join/#debian apathor (~apathor@c-24-218-104-106.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 21:30.46 | *** join/#debian FilipeMaia (~filipe@h136n4-u-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 21:30.58 | esing | Should I get xawtv-plugin-qt or quicktime-utils for playing quicktime movies on my browser (Debian testing) |
| 21:32.34 | *** join/#debian welch (~welch@209.133.117.5) |
| 21:32.40 | rgr | mplayer isnt it? |
| 21:32.50 | *** join/#debian Guest37327 (Guest37327@c-24-98-172-103.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 21:33.10 | *** join/#debian nixoeen (~nixoeen@gb075.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) |
| 21:33.10 | *** join/#debian nixoeen (~nixoeen@unaffiliated/nixoeen) |
| 21:33.20 | *** join/#debian r1PPer (~1@79.133.68.248) |
| 21:33.24 | *** join/#debian batrick (~batrick@nmap/developer/batrick) |
| 21:34.14 | *** part/#debian IFightForTheUser (~IFightFor@unaffiliated/ifightfortheuser) |
| 21:34.31 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc1-nott14-2-0-cust345.12-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 21:34.51 | *** join/#debian kaosu (~kaosu@unaffiliated/kaosu) |
| 21:35.03 | *** join/#debian mint_ (~mint@93-44-76-167.ip96.fastwebnet.it) |
| 21:35.11 | *** join/#debian sandwitch (~sandwitch@37-251-47-5.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl) |
| 21:35.14 | *** join/#debian YoMomma (~YoMomma@71-95-164-90.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) |
| 21:35.29 | Jorgebio | someone interested in computational chemistry with Debian? Please private |
| 21:36.04 | esing | rgr: Iam not sure if I need mplayer if I play the quicktime video in firefox; Maybe I'd just need the plugin or do you think I need the mplayer plugin for firefox? |
| 21:36.13 | *** join/#debian JimmyGulp (~james@cpc27-brad20-2-0-cust175.17-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 21:36.20 | petn-randall | Jorgebio: sure, but why private? |
| 21:36.54 | *** join/#debian Fuz2y (~Fuz2y@a85-138-192-94.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 21:36.56 | *** part/#debian winsen (~winsen@pas75-4-88-176-17-102.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:36.59 | *** join/#debian asulil (~winsen@pas75-4-88-176-17-102.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:37.00 | Jorgebio | petn-randall, you are interested? |
| 21:37.37 | Jorgebio | In private chat conversation is more fluent! |
| 21:37.48 | petn-randall | Jorgebio: last time I checked it wasn't very far, that that's 3+ years ago. But yeah, interested. |
| 21:38.18 | Jorgebio | Do you know avogadro software? |
| 21:40.18 | *** join/#debian metasansana (~metasansa@unaffiliated/metasansana) |
| 21:41.51 | *** join/#debian mr0wl (~quassel@unaffiliated/mr0wl) |
| 21:42.09 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~matrix@client-86-29-248-79.pete.adsl.virginmedia.com) |
| 21:42.09 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~matrix@unaffiliated/mang0) |
| 21:43.03 | *** join/#debian sandwitch (~sandwitch@193.172.124.196) |
| 21:43.05 | tramm | themill, thanks a lot, that was it! To find it out myself, should I have read about the makefile syntax? Anyway, is $(CURDIR)/debian/tmp/ a standard directory to put my stuff for installing later? |
| 21:43.16 | *** join/#debian tech_ (~tech@74.254.68.126) |
| 21:43.21 | *** join/#debian Ghormoon (~Ghormoon@ip-37-188-224-84.eurotel.cz) |
| 21:44.19 | *** join/#debian Vooch (~vooch@71-88-193-144.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) |
| 21:44.32 | *** join/#debian Infiltrator (~tim@115.187.228.99) |
| 21:45.07 | *** join/#debian swex (~quassel@178.132.103.110) |
| 21:45.41 | *** join/#debian cwillu (~cwillu@cwillu.com) |
| 21:47.12 | *** join/#debian Azuria_ (~azuria@46.32.51.227) |
| 21:48.29 | Paul_E | Hi there... I need to change and recompile binaries for php5-odbc. Where can I get the package source to do so? |
| 21:49.06 | AimHere | If it's in debian, apt-get source <packagename> downloads it for you |
| 21:49.09 | *** join/#debian nim_ (~nim@46.246.154.104.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 21:49.53 | tech_ | Paul_E: it should be in the Debian Repos |
| 21:50.13 | Paul_E | ok, thanks that set me in the right direction. |
| 21:50.20 | tech_ | np |
| 21:51.13 | *** join/#debian a111 (~a111a111@host-2-98-96-54.as13285.net) |
| 21:51.25 | *** join/#debian b_52globe__ (~b_52globe@adsl196-240-161-217-196.adsl196-14.iam.net.ma) |
| 21:51.43 | *** join/#debian chucky (~chucky@net-93-148-187-37.cust.dsl.teletu.it) |
| 21:53.12 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@c-98-210-252-110.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 21:53.30 | *** join/#debian zvacet (~ikoli@83-131-80-118.adsl.net.t-com.hr) |
| 21:54.52 | zvacet | I just installed wheezy and have problem with synaptic when I try to go to the repos I get message repos are changed |
| 21:56.02 | *** join/#debian a111 (~a111a111@host-2-98-96-54.as13285.net) |
| 21:56.08 | zvacet | sorry is this ever right place to ask because I asked about unstable |
| 21:56.16 | zvacet | *even |
| 21:56.30 | zvacet | *testing |
| 21:57.11 | atomfire | zvacet: it's fine to ask here, but you need to provide more information about what the exact error message is |
| 21:57.31 | *** join/#debian sugardrunk (~sugardrun@hear.fi) |
| 21:58.03 | zvacet | message said that repositories are changed and I can not access to repos from synaptic |
| 21:58.05 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 21:58.34 | tech_ | zvacet: not much info to go on but, if I had to guess, I'd say take a look at your /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure what you have for the repositories is right |
| 21:59.23 | zvacet | I have repos but I really changed mirror repos are fine and I can update and stuff |
| 21:59.34 | *** join/#debian TheWarden (~chatzilla@S0106e0469a3d83ef.ss.shawcable.net) |
| 22:01.16 | *** join/#debian oktexan (~alan@174-152-24-87.pools.spcsdns.net) |
| 22:01.54 | tech_ | zvacet: what happens when you open a terminal and try "aptitude update" |
| 22:02.06 | tech_ | or "apt-get update" |
| 22:02.32 | zvacet | I can update or upgrade just fine from terminal |
| 22:02.54 | *** join/#debian t0h (thelineva@nikita.tnnet.fi) |
| 22:03.26 | zvacet | but I know I can change repos & mirrors via synaptic but that is problem now I can not do that |
| 22:03.46 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1282] by debhelper |
| 22:04.12 | tech_ | zvacet: okay, then open a root terminal and try "rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock" then "dpkg -configure -a" |
| 22:04.38 | zvacet | just a sec |
| 22:05.40 | petn-randall | Jorgebio: I've used Avogadro before. I don't like private messages since it locks other people out to follow the discussion. |
| 22:05.50 | *** join/#debian mrpink57 (4b4911b7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.73.17.183) |
| 22:05.55 | petn-randall | Jorgebio: Unless of course you're trying to hit on me ... ;) |
| 22:06.10 | zvacet | tech_: ok I did that |
| 22:06.15 | Jorgebio | thanks petn-randall |
| 22:06.22 | zvacet | zadar10 |
| 22:06.56 | zvacet | tech_: still doesn´t work |
| 22:07.06 | *** join/#debian ellic (~ellic@66-90-198-31.dyn.grandenetworks.net) |
| 22:07.07 | zvacet | synaptic I mean |
| 22:07.11 | tech_ | right |
| 22:07.24 | tech_ | let me see... |
| 22:07.57 | zvacet | tech_: what is command to completly purge and remove all synaptic related and try again with install |
| 22:08.20 | tech_ | what did yo install via synaptic? |
| 22:08.54 | tech_ | zvacet: do you mean "aptitude purge <package>"? |
| 22:09.02 | zvacet | I didn´t install anything I went there to change my mirrors |
| 22:09.17 | tech_ | ah, I see |
| 22:09.20 | *** join/#debian soulz (~soulz@c-1ff770d5.01-275-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 22:09.48 | zvacet | tech_: something like that but command witch will remove all synaptic related packages |
| 22:10.12 | *** join/#debian djzn (~djzn@200-206-154-86.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 22:10.20 | tech_ | aptitude purge synaptic should do it |
| 22:10.34 | tech_ | from the command oine, of course |
| 22:10.37 | tech_ | *line |
| 22:10.58 | *** join/#debian suka_slayer (~suka_slay@178.120.220.76) |
| 22:11.45 | *** part/#debian djzn (~djzn@200-206-154-86.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 22:12.39 | zvacet | tech_: if I try to install synaptic again will that be good idea? |
| 22:12.45 | *** join/#debian FilipeMaia (~filipe@h136n4-u-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 22:12.48 | *** join/#debian manatee2012 (~meanderin@pool-72-66-75-183.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 22:12.52 | *** join/#debian Cyanure (~Cyanure@81-65-188-227.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 22:13.06 | tech_ | zvacet: reinstall synaptic? It shouldn't hurt anything |
| 22:13.39 | *** join/#debian soulz (~soulz@c-1ff770d5.01-275-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 22:13.59 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@184.63.221.77) |
| 22:14.40 | *** join/#debian t0h (thelineva@nikita.tnnet.fi) |
| 22:15.05 | tech_ | in fact, you could also just run "aptitude" from the terminal; it's kind of like synaptic except it's a curses-based UI. No more difficult to use, either |
| 22:15.53 | *** join/#debian DeusEx (~DeusEx@151.95.83.155) |
| 22:15.53 | *** join/#debian DeusEx (~DeusEx@unaffiliated/deusex) |
| 22:16.05 | tech_ | ever since I started doing that I've pretty much had no need for synaptic |
| 22:16.18 | zvacet | tech_: I know that but I´m lazy it is easier to update & upgrade from synaptic then type :) |
| 22:17.25 | tech_ | zvacet: no prob. If you're going to use a graphical package manager then I've always thought that Synaptic was the way to go |
| 22:17.26 | zvacet | tech_: it doesn´t work synaptic>settings>repositories > nothing happened |
| 22:17.52 | tech_ | wait a sec |
| 22:18.34 | *** join/#debian manatee2012 (~meanderin@pool-72-66-75-183.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 22:19.08 | tech_ | zvacet: and this is after you reinstalled? |
| 22:19.43 | zvacet | tech_: yes I believe some config files are left behind or something similar |
| 22:20.02 | zvacet | brb |
| 22:20.16 | tech_ | zvacet: purge should have done away with the config files as well |
| 22:20.37 | *** join/#debian Alice3 (~Alice@cpc3-grim12-0-0-cust856.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 22:21.22 | *** join/#debian AgentC (~quassel@dyndsl-080-228-180-166.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 22:22.39 | *** join/#debian nim__ (~nim@46.246.252.218.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 22:22.54 | tech_ | zvacet: when you get back, open up a terminal and just type "aptitude"; the rest will be just like using a GUI |
| 22:23.20 | tech_ | and it's a little more solid than synaptic IMHO |
| 22:23.25 | *** join/#debian brong (~brong@host86-149-81-122.range86-149.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:23.36 | *** join/#debian pn0 (~pn0@95-31-214-222.broadband.corbina.ru) |
| 22:24.41 | zvacet | tech_: I belive you but i want to solve this synaptic thing it is so basic so I´m frustrated |
| 22:25.26 | *** join/#debian Shoya (~Shoya@201.227.105.6) |
| 22:26.05 | zvacet | tech_: maybe to try put original mirrors in source list maybe that change something even tha tmake no sense to me |
| 22:26.36 | tech_ | zvacet: okay, I understand |
| 22:27.24 | tech_ | zvacet: do this: type "apt-cache policy synaptic" and tell me if the version numbers match |
| 22:28.33 | zvacet | tech_: same numbers for candidate and installed version |
| 22:28.48 | *** join/#debian b4dave (~b4dave@71-32-195-242.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 22:28.54 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc19-mapp11-2-0-cust843.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 22:28.57 | tech_ | zvacet: okay, what about the version table? |
| 22:29.46 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@199.47.52.87) |
| 22:31.03 | tech_ | zvacet: BTW, see if you have "software-properties-gtk" installed. if so, get rid of it then see if anything changes |
| 22:31.14 | *** join/#debian Anticom (~Anticom@ip-176-199-146-73.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 22:31.26 | *** join/#debian Cyanure (~Cyanure@81-65-188-227.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 22:31.35 | *** join/#debian WinstonSmith (~WinstonSm@unaffiliated/winstonsmith) |
| 22:31.39 | *** join/#debian t0h (thelineva@nikita.tnnet.fi) |
| 22:32.30 | *** join/#debian corretico (~luis@190.211.93.38) |
| 22:32.52 | tech_ | zvacet: also, deleting ~/.synaptic and /root/.synaptic well cause synaptic to revert to its original config when you restart it. |
| 22:34.12 | *** join/#debian LDungeon (~llama@cpe-174-102-147-31.wi.res.rr.com) |
| 22:35.06 | *** join/#debian cakehero (~cakehero@cpe-74-68-133-215.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 22:35.55 | zvacet | tech_: removing software-properties-gtk worked tnx |
| 22:36.12 | *** join/#debian blackness (black@blackmajic.org) |
| 22:36.23 | *** join/#debian Doggie52 (~Doggie52@31.205.59.19) |
| 22:36.31 | *** join/#debian geist1 (~x@c-98-240-84-116.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 22:36.35 | tech_ | no prob |
| 22:36.36 | *** join/#debian DemonJester (~DemonJest@cpe-184-153-69-193.buffalo.res.rr.com) |
| 22:36.37 | *** join/#debian DemonJester (~DemonJest@fedora/DemonJester) |
| 22:37.13 | tech_ | zvacet: I don't know why that utility affects synaptic like it does, but I've heard of that before |
| 22:37.42 | *** join/#debian rryoumaa (~user@ip68-226-110-213.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 22:37.43 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe (~havoc@92.36.205.139) |
| 22:37.48 | *** part/#debian geist1 (~x@c-98-240-84-116.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 22:37.51 | Doggie52 | After force-restarting my box because I can't connect to it, upon logging in it reports that 100% of the filesystem is in use. There is nothing using all the space, though -- I've tried running fsck without success. Any ideas? |
| 22:37.54 | zvacet | tech_: is it safe not to have that package |
| 22:38.23 | tech_ | zvacet: I haven't seen anyone have a problem without it |
| 22:38.32 | tech_ | but then, I run KDE |
| 22:38.39 | zvacet | now I will try to change mirrors fingers crossed |
| 22:38.45 | tech_ | okay |
| 22:39.29 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 22:40.34 | *** join/#debian Azuria (~azuria@46.32.51.227) |
| 22:40.51 | *** join/#debian glebihan (~glebihan@unaffiliated/glebihan) |
| 22:42.39 | *** join/#debian epzil0n (razor@unaffiliated/epzil0n) |
| 22:43.34 | LordV | I have a little mini-system (Guruplug) running deb, and a Displaylink device that comes up as a framebuffer. I want to enable console output thru this, how can I signal (kernel? module? /etc/inittab?) the system to turn on the console through the FB? |
| 22:43.37 | peterrooney | Doggie52: du -sh /* /.* | sort -n |
| 22:43.42 | zvacet | tech_: it is ok now many tnx :) |
| 22:43.50 | *** join/#debian sary (~sary@188.248.253.10) |
| 22:43.51 | tech_ | zvacet: no prob |
| 22:44.01 | Doggie52 | peterrooney, I just got fsck to clean it up for me. There are no files there, that's what I'm trying to say! |
| 22:44.09 | jelly-home | Doggie52: which filesystem? |
| 22:44.12 | zvacet | tech_:you saved my day ;) |
| 22:44.50 | jelly-home | Doggie52: ie. which mountpoint, if any, do any of "df" and "df -i" commands report as full? |
| 22:45.30 | Doggie52 | jelly-home, ext3, mountpoint /, filesystem /dev/sda1 |
| 22:46.15 | jelly-home | Doggie52: so save the output of du -x / to a file, then sort -n the file and see which directories are the largest |
| 22:46.58 | Doggie52 | well now it's all fine, so I can't do that |
| 22:47.34 | jelly-home | Doggie52: you can still do it and see what the output looks like |
| 22:47.52 | *** join/#debian DemonJester (~DemonJest@cpe-184-153-69-193.buffalo.res.rr.com) |
| 22:47.53 | *** join/#debian DemonJester (~DemonJest@fedora/DemonJester) |
| 22:47.54 | jelly-home | so you know what to look at the next time it happens |
| 22:47.57 | Doggie52 | Well I can, but there's no point as it's back to only 19% used |
| 22:48.02 | Doggie52 | True |
| 22:48.08 | *** join/#debian noahfx (~noahfx@190.148.155.92) |
| 22:48.09 | Doggie52 | It's weird though |
| 22:48.19 | Doggie52 | I've done similar checks before |
| 22:48.33 | Doggie52 | and there is no folder that big |
| 22:48.38 | Doggie52 | it's just ghost space |
| 22:48.51 | jelly-home | I think there is some merit in learning to debug a particular issue like a disk full |
| 22:49.10 | Doggie52 | Yes, definitely. |
| 22:49.29 | Doggie52 | Another question though -- is there a way I can gracefully shut down the box with just the power button? |
| 22:49.41 | Doggie52 | A setting somewhere that will let me do this? |
| 22:50.03 | *** join/#debian linkedinyou (~Hasib@188.51.31.113) |
| 22:50.05 | *** join/#debian linkedinyou (~Hasib@unaffiliated/linkedinyou) |
| 22:50.29 | jelly-home | Doggie52: install acpi-support ? |
| 22:50.43 | *** join/#debian blackness (black@blackmajic.org) |
| 22:51.00 | *** join/#debian vedranm (~vedranm@193.198.209.42) |
| 22:53.05 | *** join/#debian preds (~preds@cpe-108-182-55-186.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 22:53.46 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1270] by debhelper |
| 22:53.52 | *** part/#debian CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@188-180-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) |
| 22:54.03 | *** join/#debian glebihan (~glebihan@unaffiliated/glebihan) |
| 22:54.13 | *** join/#debian blackness (black@blackmajic.org) |
| 22:54.22 | *** part/#debian doublehp (~DoubleHP@2a01:e35:8ba8:e140::52) |
| 22:54.29 | Doggie52 | How do I check whether the uptime of my computer is less than, say, one minute in shell scripts? |
| 22:58.42 | *** join/#debian sakax (~sakax@d8D862498.access.telenet.be) |
| 22:59.16 | dondelelcaro | Doggie52: you can look at /proc/uptime |
| 22:59.37 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@88.233.87.228) |
| 22:59.37 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 22:59.50 | *** join/#debian Walzmyn (~quassel@50.96.92.54) |
| 23:00.27 | Doggie52 | Ah, definitely easier than $uptime |
| 23:00.37 | Doggie52 | I'm still trying to get around to using shell scripts |
| 23:00.44 | Doggie52 | Let alone writing them |
| 23:01.10 | dondelelcaro | [ $(cut -d '.' -f 1 /proc/uptime) -lt 60 ] && echo 1; for example |
| 23:01.20 | *** join/#debian fisted (~fisted@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 23:02.25 | Doggie52 | dondelelcaro, so http://pastebin.com/yJ3sdPMs would work? |
| 23:02.33 | *** join/#debian oy-tablet_ (~oy@g225209192.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 23:02.50 | dondelelcaro | Doggie52: yes |
| 23:02.56 | Doggie52 | Thank you!! |
| 23:03.03 | dondelelcaro | though using cut like I did is a bit of a bad idea |
| 23:03.07 | dondelelcaro | but it'll work |
| 23:03.27 | dondelelcaro | (mainly because it assumes that uptime will always have decimal seconds... but presumably that's ok |
| 23:03.32 | Doggie52 | As long as it works in this simple case |
| 23:03.33 | Doggie52 | Yeah |
| 23:04.23 | *** join/#debian MIOW (~miow@109.172.15.19) |
| 23:05.35 | Doggie52 | Hmm |
| 23:06.02 | Doggie52 | I need a surefire way to delete a file directly on bootup, before any services run |
| 23:06.10 | *** join/#debian pfred1 (~pfred1@unaffiliated/pfred1) |
| 23:06.30 | Doggie52 | I was thinking of using uptime |
| 23:06.30 | *** join/#debian DaveR (~The_Pugil@pool-71-254-7-119.burl.east.myfairpoint.net) |
| 23:06.46 | Doggie52 | But, it'd be better to just have a script run once on every restart |
| 23:06.51 | Doggie52 | or bootup |
| 23:08.15 | *** join/#debian blackness (black@blackmajic.org) |
| 23:10.23 | dondelelcaro | Doggie52: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 23:10.35 | *** join/#debian Fuz2y (~AndChat30@a85-138-192-94.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 23:10.44 | *** join/#debian apathor (~apathor@c-24-218-104-106.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 23:11.31 | Doggie52 | Basically, if my server crashes or I have to force-restart it, a .pid file is left behind by one of my services. This .pid file prevents it from opening twice, but if it's left behind it will prevent it from ever opening again. I want to make sure this .pid file is deleted at every bootup. |
| 23:11.55 | *** join/#debian CutMeOwnThroat (~boo@unaffiliated/iridos) |
| 23:11.57 | Arrowmaster | where is it creating the pid file? |
| 23:12.25 | Doggie52 | In a folder in my home folder |
| 23:14.24 | *** join/#debian protomouse (~protomous@2001:41d0:8:7a4a::1) |
| 23:14.45 | dondelelcaro | Doggie52: oh. Your service script is buggy |
| 23:15.12 | dondelelcaro | Doggie52: it should find the pid file, open it, check to see if a process with the right name and that pid is running, and if not, remove the pid file, and then start the process |
| 23:15.12 | *** part/#debian apathor (~apathor@c-24-218-104-106.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 23:15.20 | Doggie52 | Ah |
| 23:15.22 | dondelelcaro | Doggie52: start-stop-daemon can do this for you |
| 23:15.27 | Doggie52 | perhaps I should modify it then |
| 23:17.24 | *** join/#debian CHVNX (~user@gateway/tor-sasl/chvnx) |
| 23:18.34 | Doggie52 | I'm not clever enough to figure out how to properly use start-stop-daemon |
| 23:18.40 | Doggie52 | I'll just go with deleting the pid file for the time being |
| 23:19.08 | *** join/#debian imunsie (~imunsie@ibmaus65.lnk.telstra.net) |
| 23:19.28 | *** join/#debian socomm (~socomm@96-40-144-28.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) |
| 23:20.10 | *** join/#debian hasdf (~Hasdf@188-192-77-165-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 23:20.18 | Doggie52 | what's a reasonable value to check the uptime against? A minute? Will that be enough time? My box definitely takes less than a minute to boot, so I should be alright, right? |
| 23:20.25 | Doggie52 | When does /proc/uptime begin to count, anyway? |
| 23:20.54 | *** join/#debian glebihan (~glebihan@unaffiliated/glebihan) |
| 23:20.59 | jelly-home | boot time |
| 23:21.09 | *** join/#debian Amanas (~Amanas@c-174-60-224-218.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 23:21.21 | Doggie52 | When the kernel begins to load? |
| 23:21.28 | Doggie52 | I.e. after the kernel selection screen? |
| 23:21.30 | jelly-home | ...? |
| 23:21.39 | jelly-home | why do you ask? |
| 23:21.47 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@178.16.15.193) |
| 23:21.54 | *** join/#debian PhilSliderS (~kvirc@2a01:e35:2f26:89b0:21a5:3339:2fee:6125) |
| 23:21.57 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@unaffiliated/mentor) |
| 23:22.03 | *** join/#debian kdawg (kdawg@S0106001b1168d548.ok.shawcable.net) |
| 23:22.04 | Doggie52 | Because I want to know if it's later in the process that uptime begins to count |
| 23:22.12 | Doggie52 | If 1 minute is too much time |
| 23:22.21 | xand | should be from when kernel starts |
| 23:23.59 | *** join/#debian SkAzZ (~SkAzZ@46-65-68-120.zone16.bethere.co.uk) |
| 23:24.33 | *** join/#debian hasdf (~Hasdf@188-192-77-165-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 23:24.38 | *** join/#debian Milos_ (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) |
| 23:25.29 | jelly-home | why do you care about uptime at all, Doggie52? |
| 23:26.17 | Doggie52 | Because I'll integrate a check in the buggy service to see if uptime < 60 seconds at which point it will assume there is no pre-existing version of itself running even if a pid-file is present |
| 23:26.20 | Doggie52 | I know it's bad |
| 23:26.26 | Doggie52 | I know it can wreak havoc |
| 23:27.10 | *** join/#debian julius_ (~julius@p3EE2B3E4.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:27.12 | julius_ | hi |
| 23:27.58 | jelly-home | Doggie52: dude, do what don said; if the pid file exists, check whether the correct process still exists with that pid. If it doesn't, the file is wrong, so wipe it and start the service anew. |
| 23:28.19 | Doggie52 | I don't know how to perform that check. That's the simple answer. |
| 23:28.26 | jelly-home | ASK |
| 23:28.32 | Doggie52 | It's a screen process, I hate them |
| 23:28.51 | julius_ | got these two lines: dhcp-host=00:1h......,192.168......,12h and dhcp-host=00:1h...,ws-b,12h in my dnsmasq.conf, but the host always gets assigned a different ip and no hostname...why? |
| 23:29.22 | jelly-home | what use is the pidfile at all, then |
| 23:30.25 | Doggie52 | You're right. I'm just going with what I know I am capable of scripting. Let me investigate the other option |
| 23:30.52 | *** join/#debian hasdf (~Hasdf@188-192-77-165-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 23:31.22 | jelly-home | right, because you basically just said "I'd rather do it the wrong way than learn something new" |
| 23:32.11 | Doggie52 | :( |
| 23:33.46 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1261] by debhelper |
| 23:33.50 | *** join/#debian rhom (~rho@49.244.73.14) |
| 23:33.52 | jelly-home | look at what the process command line looks like, or what its screen -ls output line looks like, and devise a test to see whether it's still running |
| 23:34.08 | Doggie52 | I'm not even sure how I would check if the process is "correct". It's a screen process with a process 'X' inside it. I can't know for sure if X is running because 1. it takes some time to become reachable and 2. i can't use its pid file because it only creates it after like 1-2 minutes of checking for updates |
| 23:34.58 | jelly-home | could be as simple as if pgrep -x 'process name' | grep -q "^$pid$"; then echo still alive; else start_new_daemon(); fi |
| 23:35.09 | dondelelcaro | Doggie52: whatever that process is, it should really create its pidfile very quickly |
| 23:35.36 | dondelelcaro | Doggie52: however, if you have a script which starts that process, you can always take out a lock, and not release the lock until you've checked that the process is up and its pidfile is created |
| 23:35.58 | dondelelcaro | Doggie52: but really, the solution is for the process that is being started to actually create its pidfile |
| 23:35.59 | Doggie52 | It doesn't create that pid file until after its auto update process, unfortunately |
| 23:36.26 | *** join/#debian hi9909099 (~Thunderbi@122.68.155.149) |
| 23:36.29 | jelly-home | Doggie52: you can wait in a loop for, dunno, up to 120 seconds, until the pid file appears |
| 23:36.35 | dondelelcaro | Doggie52: that's fine; you can get a lock, do the checks, start the process, wait for the pidfile to exist, then unlock the lock. |
| 23:37.39 | jelly-home | with clamav, I have a custom init script that waits for its socket file to appear before exiting |
| 23:37.41 | *** join/#debian bambuss (~Miranda@2001:718:2:21:bc13:c56b:823f:9658) |
| 23:37.58 | jelly-home | (arguably debian's init script ought to be fixed in a similar way...) |
| 23:39.55 | *** join/#debian qu-bit (~heisenbur@121-73-87-49.cable.telstraclear.net) |
| 23:40.00 | *** join/#debian DemonJester (~DemonJest@cpe-184-153-69-193.buffalo.res.rr.com) |
| 23:40.00 | *** join/#debian DemonJester (~DemonJest@fedora/DemonJester) |
| 23:40.14 | Doggie52 | Is there a simply way for me to test whether pgrep has returned anything? |
| 23:40.40 | *** join/#debian blackmirroxx1 (~l8star@dslb-188-108-111-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 23:40.42 | Doggie52 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:41.36 | *** join/#debian Pizza90_1 (~Pizza@host68-122-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 23:41.37 | Doggie52 | I'm at the level where I don't understand what the | character does |
| 23:41.47 | *** join/#debian Gm4n (~Gm4n@unaffiliated/gm4n) |
| 23:43.03 | Doggie52 | How would I reverse this and say if pgrep DOESN'T return anything |
| 23:43.08 | Pizza90_1 | hi all, am i the only one who noticed that in wheezy (beta 4) if you use wine to run an application and that application crashes it shows you like 4 errors box instead of only 1? (this happen to me on wheezy in virtualbox) |
| 23:43.19 | Doggie52 | Should I use test? If so, how? |
| 23:44.54 | *** part/#debian esing (~philipp@dslb-084-058-039-128.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 23:46.16 | *** join/#debian tomoprime (~tomoprime@ool-1826cbb1.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 23:47.04 | *** join/#debian JoeAngel_ (~JoeAngel_@114-25-28-110.dynamic.hinet.net) |
| 23:48.23 | *** join/#debian Theoden (~quassel@c-98-234-161-226.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 23:49.36 | *** join/#debian guerrerofran (~AndChat17@89.131.180.164) |
| 23:49.47 | guerrerofran | Hi |
| 23:50.20 | LtL | hi manny |
| 23:50.37 | LtL | wooops, excuse me wrong chan. |
| 23:50.51 | *** part/#debian Pizza90_1 (~Pizza@host68-122-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 23:51.02 | jelly-home | Doggie52: pgrep returns a non-zero exit status ("false" value for shell) when no process is found, and a zero exit status ("true") when there's at least one process matching |
| 23:51.12 | *** join/#debian anunakki (~dawg@unaffiliated/anunakki) |
| 23:51.15 | *** part/#debian Doggie52 (~Doggie52@31.205.59.19) |
| 23:51.19 | guerrerofran | Has anyone achieved setting the CMD ley en Apple laptops to act as CTRL ley? |
| 23:51.21 | *** join/#debian Doggie52 (~Doggie52@31.205.59.19) |
| 23:51.35 | guerrerofran | Ley = key |
| 23:51.36 | Doggie52 | OK |
| 23:51.36 | *** join/#debian j0r-L (~uNIXplumb@ultimedia-linux.org) |
| 23:52.12 | *** join/#debian scientes (~olpc@199-188-193-145.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net) |
| 23:52.12 | *** join/#debian scientes (~olpc@unaffiliated/scientes) |
| 23:52.21 | jelly-home | Doggie52: thus, you may do: if pgrep -x 'clamavd'; then echo "IT LIVES"; fi; or maybe: if ! pgrep -x 'clamavd'; then echo "he's dead, Jim"; fi |
| 23:52.33 | *** join/#debian Shadow` (~BOOYEA@5ED7BD2B.cm-7-8c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 23:52.38 | Doggie52 | Ah, it's that simple |
| 23:52.48 | Doggie52 | I stored $? in a variable and checked that |
| 23:53.05 | *** join/#debian uNIXplumber (~uNIXplumb@ultimedia-linux.org) |
| 23:53.28 | *** join/#debian kermit1 (unknown@c-75-72-166-126.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 23:53.53 | Doggie52 | http://pastebin.com/2wBeEpPZ -- yes? |
| 23:54.37 | *** join/#debian DeusEx (~DeusEx@151.95.104.75) |
| 23:54.37 | *** join/#debian DeusEx (~DeusEx@unaffiliated/deusex) |
| 23:55.12 | jhutchins_wk | Doggie52: if returns a 1 if true, so if pgrep ... then doesn't need a pipe. |
| 23:55.39 | Doggie52 | Oh ok :) |
| 23:55.47 | jhutchins_wk | Doggie52: Pipe directs the output that would go to the screen to a program or something. |
| 23:56.02 | *** join/#debian JohnnyL (~chatzilla@ool-457ac90a.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 23:56.18 | JohnnyL | help, i'm getting : alsactl init //// alsactl: parse:1655: Unable to open file '/usr/share/alsa/init/ca0106': No such file or directory |
| 23:56.38 | JohnnyL | please |
| 23:58.39 | jelly-home | JohnnyL: does that file exist? |
| 23:59.49 | *** join/#debian sivoais (~zaki@199.19.225.239) |
