| 00:00.22 | rhenani | ompaul: The names I typed when Installed the operatying system (which was my mistake) I normally put the same thing on all fields, were: debian-servidor, centerpoint, virtualmachine |
| 00:00.29 | rhenani | ompaul: ok |
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| 00:01.00 | rhenani | ompaul: I think the first is the name of I don't know, the seocnd one I don't know, and the third one is the user |
| 00:01.08 | rhenani | ompaul: I'll type id |
| 00:01.38 | rhenani | ompaul: when Y tipe id as non-root |
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| 00:01.49 | rhenani | it sayd: virtualmachine anywhere with some values |
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| 00:02.20 | rhenani | ompaul: uid=virtualmachine(1000( |
| 00:02.37 | ompaul | rhenani: so virtualmachine is a username |
| 00:02.44 | rhenani | ompaul: so? |
| 00:03.06 | ompaul | rhenani: now on the laptop try this ssh -C 192.168.77.251 -l virtualmachine |
| 00:03.11 | rhenani | ok |
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| 00:04.32 | ompaul | wot |
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| 00:04.47 | rhenani | omnapaul: got back |
| 00:04.57 | ompaul | rhenani: I noticed |
| 00:05.03 | rhenani | ompaul: so did you what I typed? |
| 00:05.10 | ompaul | nothing |
| 00:05.11 | rhenani | it still says permission denied? |
| 00:05.14 | ompaul | rhenani: now on the laptop try this ssh -C 192.168.77.251 -l virtualmachine |
| 00:05.27 | ompaul | rhenani: on the desktop type passwd virtualmachine |
| 00:05.34 | rhenani | ok |
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| 00:06.48 | rhenani | ompaul: http://paste.debian.net/219423/ |
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| 00:08.10 | ompaul | rhenani: on the desktop machine type the following please assuming you are uid=(virtualmachine 1000) ... passwd |
| 00:08.20 | rhenani | ok |
| 00:08.38 | ompaul | rhenani: it will ask you for your existing password I need to know what it says next |
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| 00:09.03 | rhenani | omnapaul: uid=(virtualmachine 1000) passwd? |
| 00:09.07 | ompaul | no |
| 00:09.16 | ompaul | rhenani: passwd |
| 00:09.19 | rhenani | ompaul: ok |
| 00:09.42 | ompaul | rhenani: would you be more comfortable in spanish there is a debian channel for spanish speakers |
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| 00:09.52 | rhenani | ompaul: NO NO |
| 00:09.57 | rhenani | ompaul: please |
| 00:09.59 | ompaul | why not? |
| 00:10.01 | rhenani | don't leave me |
| 00:10.09 | ompaul | hehe I'll be in bed shortly |
| 00:10.10 | rhenani | q |
| 00:10.23 | rhenani | ompaul: I understan everything you say |
| 00:10.31 | rhenani | ompaul: Maybe for me to express is not like you |
| 00:10.44 | rhenani | ompaul: but I understand everything you say don't worry, Ok typed: passwd |
| 00:11.12 | rhenani | ompaul: as non-root: and it asks for my actual password so I typed and asked me to put a new one |
| 00:11.21 | ompaul | rhenani: please do that |
| 00:11.31 | rhenani | ompaul: do I type a new one? |
| 00:11.31 | ompaul | make it simple please |
| 00:11.47 | rhenani | ompaul: OK I will type: debian as password sounsd fine? |
| 00:11.57 | rhenani | ompaul: ( don't worry If I expose it) |
| 00:12.06 | rhenani | ompaul: Or is there a way to chat with you privately? |
| 00:12.33 | ompaul | rhenani: I'm not going to give you that as a password and I can't agree with you giving out a password on irc |
| 00:13.38 | ompaul | rhenani: however that is the right idea for a problem like this pick something simple in lower case for the short while you work on this issue as it is all on the one lan |
| 00:13.56 | rhenani | ompaul: |
| 00:14.11 | ompaul | rhenani: please type locale on both machines are they the same |
| 00:14.12 | rhenani | ompaul: Or is there a way to chat with you privately? |
| 00:14.23 | ompaul | rhenani: keep it in channel |
| 00:14.38 | rhenani | ompaul: Or is there a way to chat with you privately? |
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| 00:14.43 | PerfDave | Hmm, I've got a kvm VM running on my Squeeze lappy; I've handed it /dev/sdc to play with, which is a hard drive in a USB caddy, with an old Debian lenny install on it. The VM sees it as /dev/sda and loads grub, but after that it just complains that it can't find the LGM VG, where I would expect it to prompt for the LUKS key. Booting System Rescue CD in the VM shows that the LUKS pertition and LVM inside it are working fine. |
| 00:15.01 | rhenani | ompaul: I changed the password to a new one on the desktop, i didn't let me put debian as a password jaja |
| 00:15.15 | ompaul | rhenani: please type locale on both machines are they the same |
| 00:15.21 | rhenani | ompaul: isn't all this issuea abpout permission? |
| 00:15.25 | ompaul | the top line on both of them |
| 00:15.25 | rhenani | ok |
| 00:15.31 | rhenani | ompaul: ok let me see |
| 00:15.33 | rhenani | locale |
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| 00:15.34 | rhenani | ok |
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| 00:15.45 | ompaul | rhenani: well there are a few reasons you might have access issues |
| 00:15.52 | rhenani | ompaul: as root in both? |
| 00:15.53 | rmoore | hey everyone. does anyone have any experience getting debian setup on a dell latitude d800? |
| 00:15.58 | rmoore | i'm having quite a bit of trouble |
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| 00:16.07 | ompaul | rhenani: any user is ok |
| 00:16.23 | rhenani | ompaul: Ok |
| 00:16.29 | rhenani | ompaul: Thery're not the smae |
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| 00:16.59 | rhenani | ompaul: I can show you what appears on the laptop but not what appear on the desk, is to new has nothing installed on it |
| 00:17.26 | ompaul | rhenani: how did you do the install on the desktop? |
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| 00:17.40 | rhenani | http://paste.debian.net/219425/ |
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| 00:18.09 | ompaul | rhenani: what is different about the desktop? |
| 00:18.10 | rhenani | ompaul: from a usb flash dribe with netnist image with debian squeeze 6.5 (410MB) |
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| 00:19.11 | rhenani | ompaul: the desktop says: LANG=es.UTF-8 ven |
| 00:19.14 | rhenani | or somethin like that |
| 00:19.38 | ompaul | rhenani: is it LANG=es_ES.UTF-8 |
| 00:19.42 | rhenani | ompaul: and all the line start with LC and most of the line have "ve" utf-8 |
| 00:19.48 | rhenani | ompaul: yes |
| 00:19.48 | ompaul | ah |
| 00:19.50 | ompaul | ok |
| 00:20.07 | ompaul | rhenani: what you appear to have is a problem to do with locale |
| 00:20.21 | ompaul | rhenani: 90% certain |
| 00:20.28 | rhenani | ompaul: so? |
| 00:20.39 | ompaul | rhenani: if you have set a really easy no spanish character |
| 00:20.48 | rhenani | ompaul: As i told you do you want me to try ssh from the dsktop to my laptop to see what happens? |
| 00:20.51 | ompaul | rhenani: password you should be able to log in from the laptop |
| 00:21.19 | rhenani | ompaul: ? |
| 00:22.35 | ompaul | rhenani: ssh -C 192.168.77.251 -l virtualmachine |
| 00:22.46 | ompaul | rhenani: from the desktop |
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| 00:22.48 | ompaul | sorry |
| 00:22.52 | ompaul | rhenani: from the laptop |
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| 00:23.35 | rhenani | ok |
| 00:24.15 | rhenani | ompaul: :O |
| 00:24.17 | rhenani | ompaul: :OOOO |
| 00:24.23 | ompaul | ? |
| 00:24.23 | rhenani | ompaul: :OOOOOOOOOOo man we did it |
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| 00:24.31 | rhenani | ompaul: I hace access now |
| 00:24.33 | Shoya | is there any way to set up locale for "LANGUAGE" and "LC_ALL" ? |
| 00:24.34 | rhenani | ompaul: hahahahhahahaha |
| 00:24.54 | v4nelle | guys how can i install gtk2 themes on gnome 3.0? |
| 00:25.02 | ompaul | rhenani: sort out your locale and make sure other machines talk es_VE |
| 00:25.16 | Shoya | props to ompaul's patience (heh) |
| 00:25.33 | rhenani | ompaul: ? |
| 00:25.44 | ompaul | rhenani: give me a moment please |
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| 00:26.11 | rhenani | ompaul: look, there is a problem I have access but now it does not give access me like root? |
| 00:26.36 | ompaul | rhenani: yes your locale is the problem on the desktop please type dpkg-reconfigure locale |
| 00:26.44 | rhenani | ok |
| 00:27.16 | ompaul | sorry that has an s at the end of it |
| 00:27.26 | ompaul | rhenani: yes your locale is the problem on the desktop please type dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 00:27.30 | rhenani | man |
| 00:27.35 | rhenani | talk to you from my home |
| 00:27.38 | PerfDave | Anybody know why booting Debian on a LUKS partition on a real hard drive, inside a kvm VM, doesn't prompt for the LUKS passphrase? |
| 00:27.46 | rhenani | ompaul: Let's keep talking in like 30 minutes |
| 00:27.59 | rhenani | ompaul: It was so fun to work in this roject with you =) |
| 00:28.05 | ompaul | rhenani: check the box [ ] es_VE.UTF-8 UTF-8 |
| 00:28.44 | ompaul | rhenani: have you done this on the laptop? dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 00:28.53 | ompaul | it will fix your spanish keyboard and so on |
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| 00:29.31 | jeti` | on the desktop |
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| 00:30.00 | ompaul | Shoya: you could do what I suggested there - there are other ways but frankly what is left of my brain is not much use |
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| 00:30.47 | Shoya | ompaul: i tried, but it didn't work |
| 00:30.52 | Shoya | heck that's the first thing i did hah |
| 00:31.07 | ompaul | Shoya: new shells should pick that up |
| 00:31.27 | ompaul | is trying to remember the one liner to fix it |
| 00:31.33 | homes | PerfDave: decryption mapping must already be setup |
| 00:31.47 | Shoya | i mean it didn't work as in it didn't fix the "LANGUAGE" and "LC_ALL" things |
| 00:31.55 | Shoya | they are still empty |
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| 00:32.47 | ompaul | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:33.59 | Shoya | i think i'm missing something... |
| 00:34.03 | rhenani | ompaul: BYe |
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| 00:34.09 | rhenani | ompaul: I did reconfigure locales |
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| 00:34.18 | rhenani | ompaul: in my laptop do i choose es_ve? |
| 00:34.26 | rhenani | ompaul: es_ve utf-8? |
| 00:34.30 | Shoya | hmm meh |
| 00:34.32 | Shoya | nope |
| 00:34.46 | Shoya | didn't work, rhenani if i'm right that's venezuela spanish |
| 00:35.01 | PerfDave | homes: What do you mean by that? |
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| 00:36.34 | ompaul | rhenani: yes |
| 00:36.41 | ompaul | Shoya: it is |
| 00:36.54 | ompaul | Shoya: which is what is on the desktop |
| 00:37.20 | dxtr | Bah. mtpfs : Depends: fuse-utils but it is not installable :( |
| 00:37.30 | ompaul | Shoya: or should have said laptop |
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| 00:37.35 | Shoya | ompaul: hmm...sorry i must hae confused answers when answering to myself lol |
| 00:37.49 | Shoya | ompaul, but yeah i did locale-gen, didn't work |
| 00:37.56 | Shoya | locale.gen can't find it.... |
| 00:38.16 | ompaul | it should be in /etc |
| 00:38.22 | ompaul | Shoya: what version of debian have you got? |
| 00:38.32 | homes | PerfDave: perhaps on the host OS, |
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| 00:38.50 | Shoya | ompaul: Wheezy 64-bit |
| 00:39.49 | PerfDave | homes: This HDD boots fine on real hardware. In the VM, grub loads fine, loads the kernel, but then doesn't ask for the LUKS passphrase while mounting the root partition |
| 00:40.03 | rhenani | ompaul: thank you bye |
| 00:40.08 | ompaul | rhenani: enjoy |
| 00:40.37 | ompaul | Shoya: it should be in /etc/locale.gen note the e and . |
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| 00:44.27 | ompaul | Shoya: http://wiki.debian.org/Locale |
| 00:45.11 | Shoya | ompaul: oh wait, i should have worded it correctly, man i suck at wording sentences, i meant, it did work, but i can't set up "LANGUAGE" and "LC_ALL" and set locale doesn't work, tried dpkg-reconfigure locale but that didn't correct it as well |
| 00:47.11 | ompaul | read that about LC_ALL which is a bad idea (tm) |
| 00:48.05 | Towzzer | you trademarked "bad idea" ? |
| 00:48.22 | Shoya | lol |
| 00:48.33 | Shoya | ompaul: yeah i noticed, guess nothing to do hah |
| 00:48.46 | Shoya | lets see only desmume has been successfully set up |
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| 00:51.12 | edju | My sources list refer to testing rather than Wheezy. I hear that is not a good idea. I.e., once Wheezy goes stable, a flood of pkgs flow into testing from unstable, thus rendering testing not as reliable as it usually is.. Is that correct? |
| 00:51.33 | themill | yes |
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| 00:53.19 | Shoya | themill: do i chroot into my wheezy 32-bit and then do apt-get install everything shown here? http://paste.debian.net/219410 |
| 00:53.36 | Shoya | except the build system, which have to be the updated versions |
| 00:54.15 | themill | yeah, that should be enough. Also get build-essential. |
| 00:54.29 | Shoya | cool |
| 00:54.53 | Shoya | do you know anyway to configure the Logitech Rumble Gamepad F510 to work on linux? |
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| 00:56.00 | Shoya | ... |
| 00:56.07 | Shoya | i feel like wanting to rage |
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| 00:56.11 | Shoya | sighs |
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| 00:56.56 | ompaul | Shoya: does anyone know what it is? |
| 00:57.01 | ompaul | goes to search for one |
| 00:58.44 | Shoya | ompaul? what the gamepad? |
| 00:59.04 | ompaul | yeah |
| 00:59.18 | Shoya | well |
| 00:59.26 | Shoya | as the name implies, it's a gamepad |
| 00:59.42 | Shoya | from logitech that's connected by usb and can be configured |
| 01:00.50 | crolab | thought they did a recall on the logitech rumble gamepad due to all the broken hips |
| 01:01.01 | ompaul | Shoya: what kernel have you got |
| 01:01.36 | Shoya | Linux debian 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.32-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 01:01.54 | Shoya | that works? |
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| 01:03.15 | ompaul | it may do I've seen notes that say it does |
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| 01:03.54 | Shoya | ompaul: what i need is to know what package can i use so that debian recognizes it |
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| 01:04.09 | Shoya | and then i configure it inside the program |
| 01:04.09 | ompaul | Shoya: cough ... apt-get install (cough) joystick |
| 01:04.25 | ompaul | jscal is the sub program you want |
| 01:04.54 | Arrowmaster | and maybe jstest-gtk |
| 01:05.14 | ompaul | the axis may need to be messed with |
| 01:05.26 | ompaul | but I know nothing |
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| 01:06.31 | Shoya | hmm |
| 01:06.49 | Shoya | now i need to check what can i use to make the analog sticks replace the mouse |
| 01:07.49 | Shoya | hmm jscal is not found... |
| 01:07.51 | Shoya | hmm |
| 01:08.51 | ompaul | Shoya: apt-cache show joystick |
| 01:08.56 | ompaul | it should be in there |
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| 01:10.30 | Shoya | ompaul: nah i think it works out of the box |
| 01:10.54 | Shoya | i mean, installing joystick makes it recognized |
| 01:11.58 | ompaul | Shoya: ah well, at the risk of seeming trite, I tend to type apt-cache search hardwarename | grep hardwarename |
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| 01:12.40 | ompaul | Shoya: it tends to find the general field and then maybe more specific stuff if that fails I'll remove the grep :) |
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| 01:17.09 | Shoya | ompaul, thanks, do you know what are the usual sources on wheezy x86? |
| 01:17.25 | ompaul | ? |
| 01:17.40 | Shoya | because i'm only seeing "deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy" |
| 01:17.56 | Shoya | forgot to add main at the end |
| 01:17.58 | Shoya | but yeah |
| 01:18.01 | Shoya | only seeing that |
| 01:18.11 | ompaul | Shoya: main contrib non-free like that |
| 01:18.27 | ompaul | security and volatile come online when |
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| 01:18.36 | ompaul | the release happens |
| 01:18.46 | Shoya | ah |
| 01:18.59 | Shoya | weird, because it's not finding some packages... |
| 01:19.57 | Shoya | and can't i use like the same sources i have on Wheezy x64? |
| 01:20.42 | ompaul | yes |
| 01:20.53 | ompaul | arch is determined elsewhere |
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| 01:21.16 | ompaul | !multiarch |
| 01:21.16 | dpkg | Debian is working towards the ability to install packages from one architecture on a machine that is running a different architecture. This makes i386/amd64 issues simpler (no more ia32-libs!), helps tag firmware blobs with the correct arch and allows easier cross-compiling and bootstrapping. Multiarch support is a release goal for Debian 7.0 "Wheezy". http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110726b http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch |
| 01:21.44 | Shoya | ompaul: i'm doing chroot because cross-compiling may not be that successful |
| 01:21.47 | Shoya | atm |
| 01:22.35 | ompaul | Shoya: It is 1:30am locally I'm not doing very well I know what you are thinking about hang on I have an idea |
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| 01:24.11 | ompaul | Shoya: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=86521 |
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| 01:24.40 | ompaul | Shoya: and there I leave you |
| 01:24.42 | ompaul | night |
| 01:24.53 | Shoya | night ompaul i'll bug you tomorrow |
| 01:24.55 | Shoya | derp |
| 01:24.58 | Shoya | he left darn it |
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| 02:15.48 | Lantizia | Is there one of those silly web pages where you can "guess" the release date of 7? :D |
| 02:15.58 | rryoumaa | lol |
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| 02:16.44 | monadicity | what should I do about ? ImportError: No module named setuptools |
| 02:16.46 | monadicity | python |
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| 02:17.10 | mmnicolas | monadicity: apt-cache search setuptools |
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| 02:19.54 | Ariii | Hi, I'm having a really strange problem installing Debian on my iBook.... Whenever I do ""boot usb0/disk@1:2,\\yaboot" |
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| 02:20.42 | Ariii | it gives me: |
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| 02:21.43 | Ariii | can't OPEN: usb0/disk@1:2,\\yaboot |
| 02:23.02 | Ariii | I'm in Open FirmWare on a Lime 366MHz iBook, by the way. |
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| 02:24.10 | dimadima | man, i love linux. i'm 27 now. i first tried installing linux, slackware, from some 10-odd floppies in, like, 1997 or something. since then i've had a few boxes here and there... had a counter-strike server running on debian in college, but never had much luck with desktop *nix until mach/os x, which is sort of evil but really let me bust my unix chops on a daily basis. today i first tried an ubuntu usbkey, and boy, have things |
| 02:25.06 | nkuttler | Ariii: that's an m68k machine, right? #debian-68k @ oftc |
| 02:25.07 | mmnicolas | Ariii: does this bootloader has a shell with auto-completion like grub ? |
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| 02:26.06 | Ariii | mmnicolas: I'm not sure... it's the PowerPC netinstall image. |
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| 02:26.25 | nkuttler | Ariii: er, never mind.. |
| 02:27.22 | peterrooney | nkuttler: nope, powerpc |
| 02:27.27 | mmnicolas | Ariii: how sure are you that this is the correct path ? is it listed to you earlier ? |
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| 02:30.14 | gnarface | dimadima: you were cut off at "and boy, have things" (either your client or the server has a lower per-message max character count than your last message) |
| 02:30.41 | Ariii | How do you find the correct path again? I forgotso I did exactly what worked for the last version of Debian. |
| 02:30.46 | dimadima | haha, gnarface, interesting! it was ...have things really come a long way! and i'm not talking about unity (ugh)-- i'm talking about sshfs, fuse, hardware support, all sorts of nice pleasant cohesiveness |
| 02:31.50 | dimadima | debian was where i first learned though. i lived on windows for way toooo long, and then on osx w/o exploring the bsd underlayer. but once i did (became a developer) and used it on a daily basis, going back to debian is just so nice |
| 02:32.33 | mmnicolas | nice but offtopic |
| 02:32.39 | dimadima | #debian? |
| 02:32.46 | mmnicolas | -offtopic |
| 02:32.50 | dimadima | i hear yo uthough mmnicolas |
| 02:32.59 | rjsalts | this is for support of specific issues |
| 02:33.08 | dimadima | oh my bad. i didn't realize :D |
| 02:33.10 | mmnicolas | This is actually an invitation to #debian-offtopic |
| 02:33.11 | gnarface | dimadima: (this is a support channel. #debian-offtopic is for monologues) |
| 02:33.44 | gnarface | dimadima: but i've been caught overstepping too |
| 02:33.46 | dimadima | oh wow, cool. for real. thank you |
| 02:33.50 | dimadima | didn't know |
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| 02:34.20 | dimadima | hides. carry on |
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| 02:36.53 | mmnicolas | Ariii: That's what we need to figure out, this "can't OPEN" must really means it can't open it |
| 02:37.04 | Ariii | I wonder if Open FirmWare is recognizing my USB Drive... It wasn't lighting up for some reason. |
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| 02:39.22 | mmnicolas | Seen this ? http://mac.linux.be/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=75 |
| 02:40.42 | Sidze | I would like to set up account for samba which first account can read / write on 'apps' directory and the second can only read |
| 02:41.30 | Sidze | is it possible to put 'read only = yes (user) readonly = no (root)' ? |
| 02:41.35 | Sidze | or anything as it ? |
| 02:43.32 | Ariii | So... how do I find that out?? |
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| 02:44.03 | mmnicolas | "Type dev / ls and devalias at the Open Firmware prompt to get a list of all known devices and device aliases." |
| 02:44.11 | monadicity | why does my package manager say? |
| 02:44.12 | monadicity | No candidate version found for unrar |
| 02:44.18 | monadicity | twice? |
| 02:44.43 | HaikuUser | < |
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| 02:44.53 | mmnicolas | monadicity: what does your sources.list look like ? |
| 02:44.58 | HaikuUser | >Ar9 just use write list parameter |
| 02:45.27 | HaikuUser | write list username in the share definition |
| 02:45.51 | Ariii | Should I just use an older installer an dupdate it?a.? |
| 02:46.15 | Ariii | zz |
| 02:46.35 | monadicity | can I get non-free rar? |
| 02:46.41 | monadicity | the one that works |
| 02:46.53 | HaikuUser | >Arii samba shares has the write list parameter |
| 02:46.57 | mmnicolas | monadicity: pastebin your sources.list |
| 02:47.07 | monadicity | mmnicolas, pastebin doens't work :/ |
| 02:47.11 | monadicity | it sesm broken |
| 02:47.20 | mmnicolas | use another one, paste.debian.net |
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| 02:47.47 | monadicity | http://paste.debian.net/219459/ |
| 02:47.56 | mmnicolas | Ariii: are you read the article ? |
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| 02:49.26 | mmnicolas | monadicity: yes, just append "non-free" without quotes to line #7, #10 & #14 |
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| 02:49.32 | monadicity | thanks |
| 02:50.00 | monadicity | do you know why I got the double message? |
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| 02:50.39 | mmnicolas | Twice the error |
| 02:51.15 | Towzzer | double mint gum |
| 02:51.20 | mmnicolas | monadicity: you can just use this if you want: http://paste.debian.net/219460/, same as yours, with http.debian.net and less comments |
| 02:51.29 | monadicity | thank you |
| 02:52.30 | Sidze | I have an issue with samba, I type : smbpasswd -a user and I enter the same password, for sure it's the same, and it said : Failed entry for user user, is the account must be a system account ? |
| 02:53.04 | cusco | Sidze: it means it must authenticate with pam too? |
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| 02:53.08 | cusco | Sidze: adduser first |
| 02:53.27 | Sidze | cusco I would not like to add him to the system |
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| 02:53.57 | cusco | there should be such option in samba for that, but I am no expert |
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| 02:54.20 | devios | lo |
| 02:54.31 | Sidze | ok thanks, will search for samba / pam and probably found it :) |
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| 02:56.18 | mmnicolas | Sidze: something about the security = parameter |
| 02:56.36 | Ariii | Nevermind, I just got it working by burning an old mini.iso :). |
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| 02:57.30 | Sidze | yes but I only know security = user which require to have account on the system I search the else :) |
| 02:57.48 | mmnicolas | Ariii: good job, maybe the image was miswritten on disk or something |
| 02:57.54 | mmnicolas | or just too big |
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| 02:59.41 | Ariii | Oh, for the wireless part of th einstaller, what should I do if it doesn't find a network???? |
| 03:00.13 | devios | lo - anyone know why the network monitoring thing in the top-right of screen would stop being there? i see a sound, battery, and bluetooth status icon, but no longer see the one for networking |
| 03:00.18 | mmnicolas | Ariii: you really like walking on eggs |
| 03:00.49 | mmnicolas | you can get a non-free firmware tarball somewhere to feed the installer |
| 03:01.00 | devios | more importantly, how do i get it back... |
| 03:01.28 | Ariii | My iBook has only 1 USB port :(. |
| 03:01.38 | mmnicolas | devios: what is this, Gnome 2 ? |
| 03:02.05 | mmnicolas | Ariii: optical disk ? |
| 03:02.31 | devios | mmnicolas: tbh not sure. |
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| 03:03.17 | mmnicolas | devios: type alt-f2 and nm-applet |
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| 03:04.13 | Ariii_ | Sorry for the weird timeoutss... I had no other computer so I had to use my phone. |
| 03:04.43 | mmnicolas | Ariii: optical disk ? |
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| 03:06.18 | Ariii_ | mmnicholas: All of my computers have a broken optical drive :'(. |
| 03:07.34 | Sidze | mmnicolas cusco yes, need adduser first with -s /bin/false -d /dev/null and after smbpasswd works |
| 03:07.36 | Sidze | thanks for the hlep |
| 03:07.41 | Sidze | s/hlep/help |
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| 03:08.43 | mmnicolas | Ariii: or try this again http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/6.0.6/powerpc/iso-cd/firmware-6.0.6-powerpc-netinst.iso |
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| 03:09.07 | devios | mmnicolas: cool it's back |
| 03:09.08 | devios | mmnicolas: i dunno why it dissapeared |
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| 03:22.50 | Ariii_ | mmnicholas: I have the same problem with that for some reason :(. |
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| 03:23.15 | monadicity | does anyone use texlive |
| 03:23.20 | monadicity | how should I add a new .sty file? |
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| 03:23.35 | monadicity | is it ok to just copy it into /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex ? |
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| 03:24.26 | monadicity | or where? |
| 03:24.31 | LiLy^_^ | Hello! Please go like this picture please! It's for my friend! https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=399360903471857&set=a.399360873471860.91518.119009211507029&type=1&theater |
| 03:24.38 | monadicity | fuck off |
| 03:24.46 | rjsalts | !ops LiLy^_^ |
| 03:24.46 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: rjsalts complains about: LiLy^_^ |
| 03:25.52 | TJNII | I have 2 servers where "apt-get update" just hangs at "Waiting for headers" Is there a verbose option I'm not seeing in the man page to have it tell me exactly what it is trying to do/download? |
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| 03:27.00 | mentor | monadicity: Please maintain your composure |
| 03:27.37 | intelikey | does the current xserver-xorg only work through drm/vesa ? i killed frame buffer to preserve the console. but it killed xorg in the process. is there a way to configure it to use some device other than /dev/fb0? anyone have a clue here ? |
| 03:28.06 | mentor | intelikey: The various video drivers are in the xserver-xorg-video-foo packages |
| 03:29.10 | intelikey | so does one have to hand roll a config file ? dpkg-reconfigure doesn't seem to have a way to use anything other than vesa. |
| 03:29.24 | intelikey | @ mentor ^ |
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| 03:29.51 | mentor | intelikey: xorg will try to autoconfigure itself |
| 03:30.04 | intelikey | exactly. |
| 03:30.29 | intelikey | so is there a way to get it to "NOT" use vesa / fb ? |
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| 03:32.25 | mentor | intelikey: Install a better driver |
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| 03:32.51 | intelikey | product: C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] |
| 03:33.00 | mentor | ugh |
| 03:33.02 | mentor | nvidia |
| 03:33.02 | intelikey | so propritary nvidia |
| 03:33.10 | DomY-Dom | Guys, I have a problem with #redmine, if anyone knows how to solve it, please help http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=xEp3mBy8 |
| 03:33.23 | mentor | There's nouveau and some nvidia installing package I think |
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| 03:33.29 | Ariii_ | I think there's just something wrong with the AirPort drivers in Debian for the 366 MHz iBooks... Neither of my iBooks have worked with them :'(. |
| 03:33.36 | coffeebook | hello |
| 03:33.49 | monadicity | can anyone tell me where to get tex package |
| 03:33.55 | monadicity | ! LaTeX Error: File `enumitem.sty' not found. |
| 03:33.55 | monadicity | please |
| 03:34.04 | mentor | Ariii_: Do you need to install firmware and/or a newer kernel? |
| 03:34.13 | mentor | !tell monadicity about search |
| 03:34.20 | monadicity | please |
| 03:34.25 | DomY-Dom | Guys, I have a problem with #redmine, if anyone knows how to solve it, please help http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=xEp3mBy8 |
| 03:34.56 | Ariii_ | mentor: It hasn't worked since I first started using it in 2011, even with the updates... only a couple people have had this problem :/. |
| 03:34.59 | monadicity | okt hanks |
| 03:35.15 | mentor | Ariii_: Anything obvious in the kernel log? |
| 03:35.41 | intelikey | ugh looks like i'll have to drop to kernel-486 rather than kernel-686-bigmem is that the fix here ? |
| 03:36.19 | mentor | It's a little hard to tell… |
| 03:36.28 | DomY-Dom | Guys, I have a problem with #redmine, if anyone knows how to solve it, please help http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=xEp3mBy8 |
| 03:37.06 | mentor | DomY-Dom: Don't repeat please |
| 03:37.19 | DomY-Dom | mentor: But no one is answering :( |
| 03:37.37 | mentor | DomY-Dom: They don't have to |
| 03:37.41 | mentor | DomY-Dom: DomY-Dom: Might be better if you summarise the problem without us having to click through |
| 03:38.15 | Ariii | mentor: By the way, "install firmware-nonfree should have included the AirPort drivers, right? |
| 03:38.27 | mentor | Not sure |
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| 03:38.49 | DomY-Dom | mentor: sorry didn't see your last message what was it ? |
| 03:39.18 | intelikey | domy-dom perhaps installing mysql-dev not sure that is it. ;/ |
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| 03:39.53 | mentor | Ariii: None of the firmware packages mention airport or apple |
| 03:40.02 | mentor | DomY-Dom: DomY-Dom: Might be better if you summarise the problem without us having to click through |
| 03:40.10 | DomY-Dom | intelikey: packages contain "mysql-dev" in their name: libghc6-hsql-mysql-dev libghc6-hsql-mysql-dev-1.7.1-693b4 liblua5.1-sql-mysql-dev libkaya-mysql-dev |
| 03:40.46 | DomY-Dom | mentor: Essentially I configured redmine on debian server and set "adapter: mysql" in the database.yml file in /etc/redmine/default, and when I go to the webpage I get an error concerning that |
| 03:41.08 | mentor | DomY-Dom: Are you using the Debian packages? |
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| 03:42.08 | DomY-Dom | mentor: yep I used this tutorial to install it http://www.redmine.org/projects/redmine/wiki/HowTo_Install_Redmine_using_Debian_package |
| 03:42.38 | mentor | You probably need to install redmine-mysql |
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| 03:45.03 | DomY-Dom | mentor: perfect simple and clear it worked :D ! |
| 03:45.21 | Ariii | Oh, should this work? √ |
| 03:45.23 | Ariii | http://orinoco.nongnu.org/ |
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| 03:50.03 | mentor | Ariii: All those look to have been integrated into the kernel by now |
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| 03:51.28 | Ariii | mentor: That's weird... I wonder why that doesn't work :/. Not even with WEP, I think :O! |
| 03:51.40 | mentor | Ariii: How do you know it isn't working? |
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| 03:53.54 | ch1mkey | if i set up an openvpn connection via network manager, will it obey openvpn "push"ed commands? my client seems to be ignoring the pushed commands when it connects to my openvpn server |
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| 03:54.18 | ch1mkey | (i don't see the pushed dns, or any changes to the "route -n" table) |
| 03:54.53 | TJNII | Is there an option I can use to force apt to use ipv4? I'm having ipv6 issues which are preventing me from accessing us.debian.org. |
| 03:56.03 | mentor | TJNII: Do you have an otherwise functioning IPv6 connection? |
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| 03:57.01 | TJNII | mentor: Somewhat. I can ping other servers I admin via their public ipv6 connection, but I can't pull from us.debian.org from one datacenter. |
| 03:57.27 | TJNII | mentor: I just want to work around it for now while I escalate the real issue to network support |
| 03:58.04 | mentor | I was getting at whether simply disabling ipv6 system wide was a plan |
| 03:58.36 | TJNII | I'd prefer not, no |
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| 04:02.14 | mentor | TJNII: The common solution seems to be to use GAI |
| 04:02.18 | Ariii | mentor: On my other iBook, I would get an authentication failure error, and it seems like the same thing is happening on this one :/. |
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| 04:03.08 | mentor | Ariii: Can you see the AP replying to your airport? The rfkill switch isn't on? |
| 04:03.22 | Ariii | What's rfkill :)? |
| 04:03.35 | Ariii | And what do you mean by AP? |
| 04:04.37 | TJNII | mentor: GAI? Not familiar with that, and too common to google with any success. Can you elaborate? |
| 04:04.39 | mentor | All mobile equipment has some sort of hardware between the antenna and wireless adapter to diconnect the two |
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| 04:05.59 | Ariii | WPA worked perfectly booting Mac OS X/9 from target disk mode. |
| 04:06.01 | mentor | Ariii: Access point |
| 04:06.42 | Ariii | mentor: How do I tell if it's replying? |
| 04:06.49 | mentor | wireshark? |
| 04:06.58 | mentor | Hmmm |
| 04:07.08 | mentor | Actually, it's unlikely that it would receive but not transmit |
| 04:07.23 | Ariii | The networks /did/ show up. |
| 04:07.38 | mentor | Scanning doesn't necessarily need transmit |
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| 04:08.58 | mentor | TJNII: I know as much as you |
| 04:09.04 | Ariii | By the way, I'm using a 2WIRE717 router under AT&T. |
| 04:09.18 | Ariii | And EtheNet works. |
| 04:09.30 | Ariii | **EtherNetr |
| 04:09.36 | Ariii | **EtherNer |
| 04:09.41 | Ariii | **EtherNet |
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| 04:10.32 | mentor | !find gai.conf |
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| 04:14.16 | Ariii | I'll try WireShark on my iBook. |
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| 04:14.42 | TJNII | mentor: Thanks |
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| 04:19.53 | TuxShells | :/etc/init.d# postfix start |
| 04:19.54 | TuxShells | postfix/postfix-script: fatal: no Postfix master program /usr/lib/postfix/master! anybody know what could cause this error? debian 6 running psotfix/dovecot |
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| 04:29.48 | Ariii | Okay, |
| 04:30.13 | Ariii | Okay, I have the iBook installing Debian through EtherNet :). |
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| 04:33.27 | TJNII | mentor: You rock. /etc/gai.conf was exactly what I wanted |
| 04:33.40 | Ariii | Thanks mmnicholas/mentor :)! |
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| 04:46.39 | hyde | is it possible to directly change top folder name for a .tar.gz file? |
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| 04:59.24 | kingsley | hyde: I guess you could uncompress and unpack the .tar.gz file, copy its directory tree to a top folder with a different name, and re-tar and re-compress it. |
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| 05:00.40 | hyde | kingsley, I know, just wondering if there's a better way. |
| 05:01.35 | axelis | Hello guys, for quite some time now i have noticed that when i run 'aptitude update', when it fetches the updates it always stucks for some minutes (Waiting for headers) while it tries to hit 'Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org squeeze-updates Release.gpg'. Does anyone have a clue what might be the reason? I am not quite sure how i should go about figuring out what the cause might be. Thank you |
| 05:02.13 | homes | i have a 1005HA eepc, how do i switch output to the vga out? xrandr methods don't apply yet as i don't have X yet |
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| 05:17.49 | onlylove | http://www.imagestorming.com/image/TgH |
| 05:18.16 | onlylove | I have question in wireless router |
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| 05:19.06 | tux-world | hi all. after installing vpn packages . i cant connect to ppptp |
| 05:19.15 | onlylove | the essid of my wireless router can't display correctly,just show hex codes |
| 05:19.22 | homes | hmm, not that xrandr works in x for me either |
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| 05:21.51 | onlylove | http://www.imagestorming.com/image/TgH |
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| 05:22.55 | onlylove | hmm...sorry,I paste it again,I just want to paste it in another channel |
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| 05:25.38 | somiaj | homes: what graphics driver are you using (some dont' have xrandr support) |
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| 05:50.45 | Gallomimia | mount: unknown filesystem type 'smbfs' |
| 05:50.56 | Gallomimia | (i'm actually using raspbian) |
| 05:51.13 | Gallomimia | anyone know what package might be missing when i try to mount a samba share? |
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| 06:26.13 | peterrooney | Gallomimia: you'll have better luck in a raspbian-specific channel |
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| 06:41.16 | ik | Hi. I installed 6.0.6 from a USB stick a minute ago and ssh won't start (no complaints from the init script). I was debugging it and found that /sbin/start-stop-daemon is a shell script with a shebang line and 'exit 0' |
| 06:41.20 | ik | that's it |
| 06:41.23 | ik | a) wtf |
| 06:41.25 | ik | b) help |
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| 06:42.37 | ik | this is the media I used to install: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/i386/usb-hdd/ |
| 06:44.44 | montel | will debian run gnome 3? |
| 06:44.46 | montel | :( |
| 06:44.47 | ik | I reinstalled dpkg and the correct start-stop-daemon is there. |
| 06:45.01 | montel | in the future i mean.. like will they switch to it |
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| 07:00.29 | Mayazcherquoi``` | Anybody here who has GNOME 3.6 installed..? |
| 07:02.13 | Mayazcherquoi``` | If so, how did you install it? I tried enabling the experimental repositories, however, as a result I now have several broken dependencies and still no GNOME desktop environment |
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| 07:07.57 | Mayazcherquoi``` | And of course, nobody is here... |
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| 07:13.22 | mmnicolas | I'm here, using i3, not being helpful |
| 07:14.06 | DrakkenWarr | openbox sorry |
| 07:14.44 | DrakkenWarr | have not used gnome since around 2001-ish? I think |
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| 07:15.07 | mmnicolas | really ? it was nice at the end |
| 07:15.44 | mmnicolas | the end of 2.x |
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| 07:16.43 | DrakkenWarr | really it's alright and all, but just wasn't for me. Blackbox->Fluxbox->OpenBox with a bit o'XFCE spiced in and I am good to go |
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| 07:40.59 | adlwalrus | how straightforward is it to get up and running with skype on debian? as far as hardware is concerned, it's given that the machine has successfully run it over ubuntu before. |
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| 07:45.14 | lasers | !skype |
| 07:45.14 | dpkg | Skype is a proprietary cross-platform <VoIP> service and application owned by Microsoft. Debian cannot distribute the application due to its restrictive license and is therefore not supported by #debian. See http://wiki.debian.org/skype for community-contributed information. Consider using free software alternatives such as <ekiga>, <empathy> or <linphone>. |
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| 07:46.18 | adlwalrus | lasers: right. |
| 07:46.24 | adlwalrus | I know |
| 07:46.26 | adlwalrus | but my friend needs to use it |
| 07:46.36 | adlwalrus | and is interested in switching to debian |
| 07:49.06 | Ariii | Hi... I'm having problems with WPA on my iBook G3 using the original AirPort Card. It gives an authentication failure whenever I try to connect to a WPA network. What do I do? |
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| 07:55.28 | Ariii | This is bizarre... I'm getting the same issue with WEP networks :'(. |
| 07:55.41 | mmnicolas | missing firmware ? |
| 07:56.03 | Ariii | mmnicolas: I already have firmware-linux-nonfree installed. |
| 07:56.18 | mmnicolas | maybe it is hungry for some more |
| 07:56.51 | Ariii | I wonder where I could find the files... |
| 07:58.00 | mmnicolas | it dmesg outputting anything interesting ? |
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| 07:58.07 | mmnicolas | pastebinit |
| 07:59.18 | Ariii | Now it can't find any wireless networks. |
| 08:00.39 | mmnicolas | probably just defective |
| 08:00.45 | hell_razer | i have ssh problem, i can login via ssh -i XXX.pem root@XXX, but sshfs -o IdentityFile=XXX.pem root@XXX/ ./ssh_root - > Connection closed by XXX [preauth] |
| 08:01.22 | Ariii | mmnicolas: You mean the AirPort card...? This has also occurred with my other iBook |
| 08:01.46 | Ariii | Also, it works perfectly in MacOS 9 and Mac OS X. |
| 08:02.05 | mmnicolas | Ariii: use your only usb port with a nano usb wifi adapter |
| 08:02.59 | mmnicolas | really ? ok then, something is missing or just known not to work |
| 08:03.06 | ranjan | Hi all, How to log every command on terminal to syslog by all users? |
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| 08:03.11 | Ariii | Huh... now there's a kernel error. |
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| 08:03.14 | wooster | E: Failed to fetch http://www.deb-multimedia.org/pool/main/t/taglib/libtag1c2a_1.8-dmo1_amd64.deb: Hash Sum mismatch |
| 08:03.32 | wooster | whut |
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| 08:03.39 | mmnicolas | wooster: -_- |
| 08:04.01 | Ariii | What the heck...? I tried connecting to a network with no authentication and it said "bad password" :(. |
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| 08:10.02 | wooster | this is causing me no end of grief |
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| 08:10.57 | wooster | who do i complain to |
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| 08:13.14 | mmnicolas | wooster: the owner of the deb-multimedia.org repos |
| 08:13.30 | lasers | !why not dmm |
| 08:13.30 | dpkg | The deb-multimedia.org repository was once the only way of getting good multimedia support. By the release of squeeze this was mostly not true and for wheezy this situation is even better. Libraries from dmm are known to cause incompatibilities with packages from Debian; packages may not meet the <DFSG> so are not allowed in Debian. Use dmm as a last resort; ask me about <dmm pinning> and <dmm remove>. |
| 08:14.13 | wooster | well i need taglib to build xbmc |
| 08:14.29 | wooster | this wrecked my dist-upgrade and now i am very very sad |
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| 08:18.23 | mmnicolas | wooster: should have used xbmc from the repos |
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| 08:18.48 | wooster | i wish to use the bleeding-edge version |
| 08:18.52 | wooster | i am building it from git |
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| 08:20.10 | wols | then I suggest you buy taglib the same way |
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| 08:22.05 | wooster | ok |
| 08:22.05 | Ariii | This should work on PowerPC Debian, right? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833555011&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NA&gclid=COLRwtqTurQCFWGnPAod7CgApQ |
| 08:22.23 | mmnicolas | Ariii: so it's defective ? |
| 08:22.34 | wooster | i am getting this now: /etc/init.d/mdadm: 36: .: Can't open /lib/lsb/init-functions |
| 08:22.50 | Ariii | mmnicolas: I don't think so, but the drivers don't work for some reason. |
| 08:22.54 | wooster | missing lsb init functions makes it impossible to continue with my dist-upgrade |
| 08:23.13 | Ariii | Also, I'd have WPA2 |
| 08:23.18 | wols | Ariii: https://www.google.com/search?q=linux+Tenda+W311MI which gives you http://www.wikidevi.com/wiki/Tenda_W311MI |
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| 08:23.35 | wooster | how do i get init-functions? |
| 08:23.59 | wols | Ariii: and you see it uses rt5370sta and now you go and check if said module is in your PPC kernel (it will also use a non-free firmware afaik) |
| 08:24.21 | wooster | i have lsb-base |
| 08:24.29 | Ariii | wols: Oops, I didn't see that... and it looks like support is only experimental. |
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| 08:51.52 | mikunos | hi guys is there a way to speed up a files transfer using rSync? At the moment I am using this command: rsync -aviP --delete root@mydomain.com:/home/orler/public_html/ /var/www/ |
| 08:52.25 | tlund | mikunos: what speeds are you getting, and what speeds are you expecting? |
| 08:53.47 | thorie | hi im having trouble with my network... i setup debian as my router, and using dnsmasq, my other comp. gets a dhcp address, and can ping the debian box, and even the ISP dns ip, and even resolve addresses, but requests to say google.com:80 or ping any other ip fails with timeout... any ideas why? such requests are fine on my debian box |
| 08:55.29 | AbyssOne | thorie , when you say setup as a router , did you change all the various iptables rules ro did you use something else to set it up ? Most common issue is iptables nat and forwarding rules are setup wrong |
| 08:55.47 | thorie | i used dnsmasq to set it up for me |
| 08:56.43 | thorie | is there anything else i need to set up ? |
| 08:57.37 | gnarface | thorie: what is the current value of /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward ? |
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| 08:57.49 | thorie | 1 |
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| 08:58.10 | gnarface | thorie: maybe you misused the ping command? |
| 08:58.15 | mikunos | tlund at the moment I need to transfer 120GB from one server to another. I have spent about 1 night for 200MB. I would like to speed up the transfer but I don't know the real limits of the connection. Some files are downloaded with about 178.71kB/s |
| 08:58.22 | gnarface | thorie: try telnet or netcat if you want to attack google.com:80 |
| 08:58.34 | gnarface | thorie: or traceroute -T (as root) |
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| 08:59.17 | thorie | it times out, even through the dns request succeeds |
| 08:59.30 | AbyssOne | thorie, further questions :) is the debian box directlly connected to a modem , IE does the debian box have an internet address or does it go on to an other modem ? |
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| 08:59.57 | gnarface | thorie: what about if you go to google.com with a web browser? |
| 09:00.06 | thorie | yes, directly connected. eth0 is my internal network, eth1 is the modem interface |
| 09:00.08 | gnarface | thorie: (on the router/firewall machine) |
| 09:00.13 | AbyssOne | I ask as dnsmasq on tis own is not enough to my knowledge and you will have to setup IPTABLES to sort your nat and actually forwarding |
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| 09:00.39 | thorie | gnarface: all connectivity is 100% good on the debian box (router)... it's the dhcp client machines that are all failing |
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| 09:01.02 | gnarface | thorie: but they only fail for tcp traffic, not icmp? |
| 09:01.09 | gnarface | thorie: (ping is icmp) |
| 09:01.15 | thorie | gnarface: fails for both |
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| 09:01.34 | gnarface | the plot thickens! |
| 09:01.41 | thorie | gnarface: ping 8.8.8.8 fails, and telnet google.com 80 fails |
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| 09:01.57 | gnarface | thorie: what does traceroute -T google.com say? |
| 09:02.23 | gnarface | thorie: comparing output without -T might be useful |
| 09:02.26 | AbyssOne | thorie and traceroute 8.8.8.8 what is the output ? use http://pastie.org/ |
| 09:02.40 | gnarface | guys use paste.debian.net (no advertisements) |
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| 09:02.58 | AbyssOne | or what gnar said :) |
| 09:03.00 | thorie | let me try on my laptop, my other box is a windows pc |
| 09:03.20 | thorie | and the windows one doesn't have traceroute |
| 09:03.21 | AbyssOne | on windows use tracert :) same difference :) |
| 09:03.43 | gnarface | the command-line options may be different. windows might use /T or something |
| 09:03.46 | AbyssOne | also thorie , what is the output of iptables --list -v on you debian box |
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| 09:06.51 | thorie | http://paste.debian.net/219511/ |
| 09:07.31 | mikunos | any idea guys? |
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| 09:08.56 | majuscule | Is it possible to have two webservers bind to port 80, and route by virtualhost? |
| 09:09.14 | pmo | yes |
| 09:09.18 | AbyssOne | majuscule, yes |
| 09:09.24 | dcpc007 | Hello all ! |
| 09:10.16 | AbyssOne | thorie you are missing the iptables rules I think, sec |
| 09:10.19 | thorie | are there any debian packages to help me set up iptables and nat? |
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| 09:12.07 | mikunos | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:13.44 | AbyssOne | thorie, http://paste.debian.net/219512/ try that |
| 09:14.00 | thorie | ok |
| 09:14.39 | AbyssOne | it should get you basic access outbound, and ICMP inbound , there is soem rules missing but for now this should work |
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| 09:16.34 | thorie | same result |
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| 09:17.13 | thorie | a ping to google.com gives me: Pigning google.com [74.125.224.73] with 32 bytes of data: Request timed out. |
| 09:17.40 | AbyssOne | ok and opening a website ? |
| 09:17.54 | AbyssOne | let me find that missing rule for you for a sec |
| 09:18.00 | thorie | same, timed out |
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| 09:18.28 | thorie | i think the problem is much simpler but i can't fiure it out |
| 09:18.40 | thorie | it's more basic |
| 09:18.46 | AbyssOne | oh , and you did change where it says eth0 to the interface that your intenet modem is connected to right ? (my bad should have said that) |
| 09:19.03 | thorie | this was all working fine a week ago before i rebooted the debian box |
| 09:19.14 | thorie | and i never had to mess with iptables, i just installed dnsmasq and ran it, and everything worked |
| 09:19.27 | AbyssOne | ok , didnt know that bit |
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| 09:21.03 | thorie | oooh |
| 09:21.14 | thorie | i changed eth0 to eth1 and i think its workign now |
| 09:21.20 | thorie | in your script |
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| 09:21.34 | thorie | nice thanks AbyssOne |
| 09:21.43 | thorie | should i run this script whenever i reboot? |
| 09:22.14 | AbyssOne | ok , let me find something 1 sec (I can never rememebr this bit) |
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| 09:23.50 | AbyssOne | thorie, http://paste.debian.net/219513/ this should restore it at every reboot |
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| 09:24.10 | winnerrre | http://www.carolinaherrera.com/212/es/areyouonthelist?share=4Y9fhwXQQ7Mswio6hAClqdz2gzAqEjJq72G1oQgnhyd_9D3FDiouJG-c8M6ydir-FdOWaD_yCK1meXDLNBOfTw#episodio-7 |
| 09:24.19 | AbyssOne | there is several ways to do it but this is for me the nicest way :) |
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| 09:25.07 | thorie | should i delete this line? it's on the end of the fikle: pre-up iptables-restore /etc/network/iptables.rules |
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| 09:25.48 | thorie | yours is a little different |
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| 09:26.15 | KamZou | Hi, i changed the target (changed the server ip) of a nfs mount point on my clients. When i try to mount -a it "freezes" ... I've to reboot clients to mount it correctly. Any workaround ? |
| 09:26.19 | AbyssOne | thorie, I would suggest you read up on iptables as there are many other things you can do with it, also add this http://paste.debian.net/219514/ |
| 09:27.16 | AbyssOne | thorie , yeah that one was flawed and the reason it stopped working after the reboot :) you could also fix it by adding a < between restore and /etc |
| 09:27.30 | AbyssOne | that should restore it as it was before after a reboot :) |
| 09:28.13 | thorie | oh okay |
| 09:28.14 | thorie | tahnks :) |
| 09:28.30 | AbyssOne | KamZou, any form of log entries or dmesg messages ? sounds liek the mount keeps trying but is unsuccesfulls and that is using all your cpu tiem (just a hunch) |
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| 09:29.06 | AbyssOne | thorie, no problemsee you were using iptables after all ;) |
| 09:29.11 | thorie | this was a huge help to me |
| 09:29.21 | KamZou | AbyssOne, no syslog or dmesg |
| 09:29.51 | KamZou | AbyssOne, if i restart the clients VM everything is ok (for all next reboots) |
| 09:30.08 | KamZou | think there is a kind of mount cache or whatever |
| 09:30.23 | KamZou | i tryied to restart portmap on my clients, no better result |
| 09:30.56 | KamZou | i also tryied to restart nfs-common on client, same result |
| 09:31.06 | AbyssOne | KamZou, NFS is quuirky liek that , use it here alot for our customers and NFS reconnects etc cause major headaches liek you were explaining , if it runs it is good and stable but lord and behold make a change ;) |
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| 09:33.00 | KamZou | yes, here it's not a big deal cause i can restart clients mounting which are mounting the target |
| 09:33.26 | KamZou | but i'm wondering today, if i couldn't restart clients what'll be the good way to do it |
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| 09:34.35 | AbyssOne | KamZou, my experience is not much, we usually end up with a server/host/client needing a reboot in the end |
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| 09:35.50 | KamZou | AbyssOne, ok thanks |
| 09:36.13 | KamZou | AbyssOne, i think there's a way to clear a cache, just don't know which one yet |
| 09:36.14 | KamZou | :p |
| 09:36.28 | AbyssOne | :) |
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| 11:27.32 | dman7 | Solved by changing "Required-Start" directive to the services my service depends on [http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts] |
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| 11:31.55 | iceroot | hi |
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| 11:32.46 | iceroot | will the normal debian (arm version) run on Raspberry Pi? or do i need a debian based system like raspbian? |
| 11:33.06 | iceroot | talking about the current stable release |
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| 11:34.43 | PerfDave | iceroot: raspbian is designed to work on RaspPi. I don't know how it's changed from raw Debian. |
| 11:35.34 | xand | kernel is different |
| 11:35.43 | dcpc007 | does someone has an idea about how to move files/folders but keep the folder tree ? (it's for archiving part of user's data) |
| 11:35.52 | iceroot | but the default debian kernel will work? asking because the ubuntu kernel is not supporting it |
| 11:35.56 | xand | dcpc007: cp -a |
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| 11:36.20 | xand | ?raspberry pi |
| 11:36.23 | xand | er |
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| 11:36.27 | xand | !raspberry pi |
| 11:36.27 | dpkg | The Raspberry Pi is an open hardware design for a tiny PC based on a Broadcom system-on-a-chip, requiring <non-free> <firmware>. Debian's <armel> port works fine on the Raspberry Pi but does not use its hardware floating point support. Debian's <armhf> port (wheezy onwards) targets a newer revision of the ARM chip than is in the Pi, so armhf will not work on it. http://www.raspberrypi.org/ #raspberrypi on irc.freenode.net. |
| 11:36.44 | Guest8291 | hi. Can somebody tell me how can I change a particular process' clock rate or even its value while keeping the clock for the other processes unchanged? |
| 11:36.48 | iceroot | xand: thx |
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| 11:37.40 | PerfDave | Guest8291: Trying to bypass some time-based licensing eh? :) |
| 11:37.46 | iceroot | then i guess raspbian is what i want |
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| 11:39.08 | Guest8291 | time-based licensing ought to have some protection I'm trying to have my own program debugged. |
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| 11:45.08 | mentor | Guest8291: Someone suggested a real time clock namespace for Linux containers, but nobody wanted to implement it |
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| 11:46.16 | p0g0 | hey mentor |
| 11:46.27 | mentor | Hello p0g0 |
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| 11:48.17 | Guest8291 | so there is no conveniently placed library that does what I want? |
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| 11:49.09 | hellyeah | when i was root i cannot execute gedit also gksudo didnt work why |
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| 11:58.13 | iceroot | hellyeah: root on the shell or root on the gui? |
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| 11:58.44 | iceroot | hellyeah: also it does not make sense to call gksudo when you are already root |
| 11:58.47 | dcpc007 | xand: cp -a will only take sub-folders, not the parent tree |
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| 11:59.25 | dcpc007 | --parents better ;) |
| 11:59.26 | hellyeah | root on the shall |
| 11:59.29 | dcpc007 | ll |
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| 12:00.10 | hellyeah | iceroot: i do gksudo gedit when i am normakl user this is the output |
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| 12:00.57 | hellyeah | (gksudo:12873): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_str_has_prefix: assertion `str != NULL' failed |
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| 12:07.49 | hellyeah | and it also said sudo doesnot allow tu run gedit |
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| 12:11.11 | xand | use vim :) |
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| 12:18.12 | jelly | use sudoedit |
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| 12:24.48 | pmo | U Jelly? *Trollface* |
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| 12:26.19 | jelly | pmo: yes. I've been jelly before that expression was invented. |
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| 12:31.56 | pmo | jelly oh that old |
| 12:31.59 | pmo | old man |
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| 13:05.18 | pablo | hello guys, I am on a x86_64 system, how do I make it multiarch? |
| 13:05.39 | jelly | pablo: which debian release are you using? |
| 13:06.01 | hellyeah | any help around |
| 13:06.10 | babilen | hellyeah: just ask |
| 13:06.11 | pablo | jelly: testing |
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| 13:06.26 | pablo | jelly: wheezy |
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| 13:06.39 | abrotman | !tell pablo about multiarch |
| 13:06.50 | pablo | jelly: but it complains when I try to install ia32-libs-i386 |
| 13:06.54 | babilen | pablo: http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO (direct link to the documentation you actually want) |
| 13:07.11 | hellyeah | i wont execute gedit with gksudo or when i am root the error is gksudo:12873): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_str_has_prefix: assertion `str != NULL' failed and also it said gedit cannt be execute with gksudo connect system adm |
| 13:07.16 | babilen | pablo: ia32* packages have been obsoleted by multiarch (doing exactly that was one of the ideas behind multiarch) |
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| 13:07.25 | jelly | dpkg, multiarch howto is http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO |
| 13:07.25 | dpkg | okay, jelly |
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| 13:08.08 | jelly | that other factoid is rather useless for practical questions like enabling and using the feat |
| 13:08.22 | babilen | exactly |
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| 13:08.35 | cos- | hello, is this correct channel for asking about packaging issues? |
| 13:08.40 | jelly | babilen: tell abrotman about that |
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| 13:08.43 | pablo | is there any "base" i386 package that install the main libs for i386 support? |
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| 13:08.59 | babilen | jelly: No, I am thinking about a new "multiarch" factoid instead :) |
| 13:09.08 | babilen | pablo: What are you actually trying to do? |
| 13:09.14 | babilen | dpkg: tell cos- -about mentors |
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| 13:09.57 | pablo | babilen: run a i386 binary, I think it needs the i386 version of libc |
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| 13:10.12 | cos- | babilen: ok thanks |
| 13:10.24 | abrotman | waits to be told :) |
| 13:10.29 | babilen | pablo: "a i386 binary" |
| 13:10.41 | babilen | tells abrotman that the multiarch factoid is suboptimal |
| 13:10.55 | babilen | brb |
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| 13:11.44 | pablo | I mean an IA32 app |
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| 13:14.58 | babilen | pablo: Which one? What happens if you try? What is the ldd output for it? (→ http://paste.debian.net ) |
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| 13:17.48 | pablo | babilen: no output, I think it is using dlopen or something like that |
| 13:18.16 | pablo | meanwhile apt-get install libc6:i386 should be the synthax right? |
| 13:19.17 | jelly | right |
| 13:21.24 | pablo | E: Unable to locate package libc6 |
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| 13:22.14 | jelly | pablo: apt-get update after enabling i386 |
| 13:22.20 | pablo | cool |
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| 13:23.17 | abailarri | Hello. Anybody can help me configure my laptop's webcam? I use debian wheezy |
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| 13:27.39 | jelly | pablo: no output might happen because ldd is a script, and it doesn't work well when the relevant dynamic loader for your ELF binary is not present on the system at all |
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| 13:40.00 | abailarri | Hello. Anybody can help me configure my laptop's webcam? I use debian wheezy |
| 13:40.05 | d3xter | xingu: hey there |
| 13:40.34 | homes | abailarri: personally, i'd give up and use my smartphone. |
| 13:40.36 | d3xter | abailarri: whats the problem? |
| 13:40.48 | ompaul | abailarri: apt-get install cheese see if it gets detected |
| 13:41.28 | abailarri | d3xter, It just does not work. |
| 13:41.31 | abailarri | ompaul, It just does not work. And I've tried with cheese |
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| 13:41.56 | d3xter | abailarri: does it show up in "lsusb"? |
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| 13:42.23 | abrotman | homes: you don't have to comment then .. |
| 13:42.28 | d3xter | what can cause the problem, that changing the screen backlight works, but after restarting the login manager it bugs? |
| 13:43.04 | ompaul | d3xter: what, enoparse? |
| 13:43.08 | abrotman | abailarri: is it even detected? |
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| 13:43.19 | homes | abrotman: i feel my experience not getting webcams working is worthwhile in saving frustration :P |
| 13:43.26 | abailarri | d3xter, It's a webcam built into the laptop, not a USB device |
| 13:43.31 | abrotman | homes: then just don't say anything, others are willing to help |
| 13:43.41 | abrotman | abailarri: can you pastebin 'lsusb -v' ? |
| 13:43.46 | abailarri | ok |
| 13:43.59 | d3xter | abailarri: and still most webcams are connected through the internal usb-hub :) |
| 13:44.05 | abrotman | in my experience, i didn't have to do anything, and it worked easily |
| 13:44.16 | d3xter | abailarri: or check "dmesg" if there is any occurence of "Webcam" |
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| 13:44.33 | abailarri | a ok |
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| 13:44.41 | homes | abailarri: fair enough |
| 13:44.51 | homes | ahh ab tab fail |
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| 13:45.16 | abrotman | homes: that said, i also have only done it with thinkpads |
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| 13:46.00 | ompaul | homes: you are creating a high N to the rest of the S |
| 13:46.12 | abailarri | d3xter, this is the result of dmesg command http://pastebin.com/jSfgKd6c |
| 13:46.23 | homes | ompaul: s/you/we ;) |
| 13:46.56 | ompaul | BisonCam, NB Pro |
| 13:47.11 | d3xter | abailarri: whats the output of the command abrotman posted? |
| 13:47.13 | d3xter | the lsusb |
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| 13:47.36 | abrotman | t's uvcvideo |
| 13:47.37 | abailarri | abrotman, d3xter thi is the results of lsusb -v http://pastebin.com/4GP80qMw |
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| 13:48.09 | euax | Hi from spain. |
| 13:48.20 | abrotman | he may need to do the gspca thing |
| 13:48.22 | ompaul | 2.6.34 is supposed to support that camera |
| 13:48.29 | abrotman | oh, though the driver loaded for it |
| 13:48.57 | abrotman | abailarri: if you run 'cheese' from the terminal, do you get any notifications? |
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| 13:49.54 | hellyeah | any help around |
| 13:49.58 | d3xter | abailarri: alright, you're webcam is registered under "input/input13" |
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| 13:50.46 | abrotman | your |
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| 13:54.24 | jackbrownhf | Could anyone help me to decrypt an hex (I think) database? |
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| 13:54.38 | abrotman | jackbrownhf: what format? |
| 13:54.44 | abrotman | have you tried the 'file' command? |
| 13:54.57 | abailarri | abrotman, If I start from the terminal cheese get this: http://pastebin.com/yNnMJqmS But does the webcam! |
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| 13:55.59 | abrotman | abailarri: can you run 'aptitude update;aptitude full-upgrade' and make sure you're up to date |
| 13:56.10 | abailarri | abrotman, Strange! Now works even without running cheese from the terminal! |
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| 13:56.28 | jackbrownhf | abrotman: take a look |
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| 13:56.45 | abrotman | abailarri: all fixed up ? |
| 13:57.18 | ompaul | jackbrownhf: he could if you would point to something ;-) |
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| 13:57.40 | jackbrownhf | https://www.privatepaste.com/5fc98ee87c ompaul |
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| 13:58.08 | abrotman | that's not a hex database .. that might be hex data |
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| 13:58.39 | jackbrownhf | abrotman: how can I make it in cleartext |
| 13:58.40 | ompaul | data is the same on all lines urls are different |
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| 13:59.18 | wols | jackbrownhf: what does "file <database file>" say? |
| 13:59.39 | jackbrownhf | wols: there are some accounts that I should save |
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| 13:59.52 | jackbrownhf | wols: and i need to make them in human readable version |
| 13:59.53 | wols | jackbrownhf: how is this debian related? |
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| 14:00.13 | wols | yes you need to crack passwords. sorry but you are a moron |
| 14:00.16 | jackbrownhf | wols: it was a general question anyway sorry for the OT if you don't think can help me since this is a Debian chan thanks anyway |
| 14:01.06 | jackbrownhf | crack ? I already have these in my program and use them i want to save in one time without writing one by one |
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| 14:03.18 | ompaul | jackbrownhf: learn how to use cut and you will be able to put the urls in a single file |
| 14:03.47 | jackbrownhf | ompaul: I already did |
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| 14:15.07 | abailarri | abrotman, Yes, it seems the problem is fixed, but does not work in VirtualBox. Is there any special configuration to do? |
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| 14:17.30 | ompaul | abailarri: this is a guess, but you need to be able to support usb passthough |
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| 14:20.27 | hellyeah | any help around |
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| 14:30.38 | matlock | !gnash |
| 14:30.38 | dpkg | Gnash is the GNU <Flash> movie player, developed from GPLFlash and part of the GNU project. The project aims to create a free software player and browser plugin. The browser plugins are packaged for Debian as mozilla-plugin-gnash and konqueror-plugin-gnash. http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ #gnash on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 14:36.40 | abrotman | abailarri: i wouldn't know about vbox |
| 14:37.01 | matlock | anyone good with gnash? |
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| 14:40.37 | abrotman | matlock: just ask |
| 14:40.41 | abrotman | !tell hellyeah about ask |
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| 14:40.45 | matlock | well.. |
| 14:41.12 | matlock | http://paste.debian.net/219570/ Linux xxxxxx 2.6.32-5-686-bigmem #1 SMP Sun Sep 23 10:27:25 UTC 2012 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 14:41.14 | hellyeah | well i ask two times no one respond |
| 14:41.20 | matlock | choppy sound on youtube using gnash |
| 14:41.21 | hellyeah | gksudo gedit wont work |
| 14:41.22 | hellyeah | it said |
| 14:41.45 | hellyeah | sudo does not allow to run gedit contavct with system adm abrotman |
| 14:42.03 | abrotman | so contact your system admin |
| 14:42.16 | themill | hellyeah: the command you gave and the full output in a pastebin might help. Details such as what user you're running it as, whether this has worked in the past, ... |
| 14:42.19 | jelly | hellyeah: did you try using sudoedit instead? |
| 14:42.19 | hellyeah | administrator |
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| 14:43.17 | matlock | hellyeah, he's asking you to do whoami |pastebinit && command typed |pastebinit and paste the two urls |
| 14:43.22 | matlock | along with the command you ran |
| 14:43.25 | jelly | "VISUAL=gedit sudoedit /etc/hosts" |
| 14:43.29 | jelly | wfm |
| 14:43.44 | hellyeah | hey |
| 14:43.45 | hellyeah | http://dpaste.com/853659/ |
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| 14:44.25 | matlock | first, gksudo as root? |
| 14:44.45 | hellyeah | actually |
| 14:44.48 | hellyeah | i tried both |
| 14:44.58 | matlock | yea but gksudo as root is kindof useless |
| 14:45.01 | matlock | as you're already root |
| 14:45.02 | themill | hellyeah: does just "gedit" work as your normal user? |
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| 14:45.40 | hellyeah | root@debian:/home/hellblues/web/studyfortablecsshtml# gedit (gedit:23963): EggSMClient-WARNING **: Failed to connect to the session manager: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported ** (gedit:23963): WARNING **: Could not connect to session bus |
| 14:45.47 | hellyeah | this is another error |
| 14:45.54 | hellyeah | gedit works fine on normal user |
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| 14:46.31 | hellyeah | matlock: the only difference typing gksudo as normal user or root is password isssue when you are root it doesnt ask password after typing gksudo |
| 14:46.43 | matlock | no |
| 14:46.53 | matlock | when you type gksudo as a normal user |
| 14:46.58 | matlock | you're asking for root privs |
| 14:47.06 | matlock | when you type gksudo as root |
| 14:47.11 | matlock | you're asking for privs you already have |
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| 14:47.21 | matlock | also how did you get root |
| 14:47.25 | matlock | what command did you type? |
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| 14:48.01 | jelly | to edit a file as root, there's no need to run a gtk app as root; no need to run gksudo some-gui-editor either; use sudoedit which is created with the specific purpose of being able to use your normal editor |
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| 14:48.53 | blixten | how do i get exim4 to accept mail on ipv6+TLS ? |
| 14:48.59 | blixten | i get this error in my logs |
| 14:49.00 | blixten | SMTP protocol synchronization error (next input sent too soon: pipelining was advertised): |
| 14:50.01 | neorpheus | hello everyone, im trying to install debian for the first time and comming accross a problem with X i think. background on the hardware: dell poweredge 1950 booting debian-live-6.0.6-amd64-xfce-desktop.iso from usb. the problem im having is that it appears to boot normally, even asks how i want to start up (normal, recovery etc). but at soume point (im assuming as X tries to start) the screen scrolls some text then clears and the |
| 14:50.22 | neorpheus | half a second then repeats scrolling and clearing indefinitely |
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| 14:51.27 | wols | neorpheus: why don't you install debian from a normal install ISO? |
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| 14:51.36 | neorpheus | it is scrolling by to quick to read but i shot a video of it and was able to pause it while the text was visible. it says there was a segmentation fault at address 0x7fbcc0000000 |
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| 14:51.38 | wols | neorpheus: e.g. netinst |
| 14:51.40 | d3xter | what program is responsible for changing an entry in sysfs when pressing an fn-key? |
| 14:52.05 | neorpheus | wols: how would that be more "normal" than doing it via a live cd? |
| 14:52.19 | matlock | depends on your hardware |
| 14:52.27 | matlock | maybe your usb ports are screwy or failing |
| 14:52.32 | matlock | maybe your usb drive is failing |
| 14:52.35 | matlock | latency issues |
| 14:52.36 | matlock | etc |
| 14:52.47 | abailarri | Does anyone know if it is possible to run an integrated webcam on the laptop in virtualbox? |
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| 14:53.50 | wols | neorpheus: debian is not ubuntu. the normal way to install is not a live cd. |
| 14:54.24 | matlock | yea use the netinstall iso |
| 14:54.25 | wols | abailarri: possible via virtualbox usb passthrough. you might need non-free components for virtualbox and not every usb device works, but it can work |
| 14:54.27 | matlock | i did from usb |
| 14:54.31 | neorpheus | wols: ive never used ubuntu. |
| 14:54.31 | matlock | and it workd perfect |
| 14:54.43 | wols | !tell neorpheus about ig |
| 14:54.50 | neorpheus | correction i used 5,10 or something once ages ago |
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| 14:55.48 | abailarri | wols what is usb passthrought? |
| 14:56.06 | blixten | no exim4 expert here? ipv6+tls |
| 14:56.13 | wols | neorpheus: note how the chapter 4 of if the install guide doesn't mention live cds, but normal debian installation media |
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| 14:56.13 | xand | blixten: what about it? |
| 14:56.25 | xand | (I have that working) |
| 14:56.26 | wols | abailarri: do you have virtualbox installed? |
| 14:56.26 | matlock | so again, i'm trying to use gnash instead of adobe flash, gnash -V outputs http://paste.debian.net/219570/ the issue i'm having is youtube videos have really choppy sound |
| 14:56.30 | xand | oh. |
| 14:56.31 | blixten | xand: i wanna be able to recive emails by it, getting errors in my logs |
| 14:56.44 | abailarri | yes wols |
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| 14:56.54 | abailarri | with extension pack |
| 14:57.24 | neorpheus | wols: yeah i didnt rtfm, i thought it was going to be a fairly straight forward install. boot live cd, click install icon, follow prompts, reboot to installed os, profit |
| 14:57.45 | wols | abailarri: read chapter 3.10 of the virtualbox manual |
| 14:58.01 | wols | neorpheus: which manual? *g* |
| 14:58.16 | matlock | neorpheus, the net install is pretty simple and straight forward |
| 14:58.44 | jelly | matlock: the short answer would be gnash is not production quality |
| 14:59.04 | matlock | well neither is adobe imo |
| 14:59.13 | matlock | any better alternatives you know about? |
| 14:59.28 | neorpheus | wols: any manual.... im very used to installing distros like puppy anf slackware derivitaves, most of which behave just fine with an install from live cd. matlock: yeah im going to be trying that next |
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| 15:00.06 | jelly | matlock: adobe flash works decently given a few precautions -- a 32bit browser and flash is one |
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| 15:00.38 | jelly | matlock: if it's just youtube you care about, a separate app like minitube or a downloader like cclive might work |
| 15:01.03 | matlock | jelly, i've been running into an issue where if i close a tab in firefox, adobe crashes hard and sometimes if the video doesn't load properly it'll lock up my cpu |
| 15:01.47 | mizlev | Or just use HTML5. |
| 15:01.57 | jelly | matlock: you could try using the non-free google-chrome or google-chrome-beta build which brings its own, latest flash |
| 15:02.05 | matlock | yea nope |
| 15:02.12 | matlock | chrome doesn't use the 'latest flash' |
| 15:02.26 | matlock | and it's just as bad as gnash when it comes to sound |
| 15:02.36 | jelly | matlock: the 32bit build brings its own flash build. |
| 15:02.37 | matlock | sometimes it'll crash if i just hover over a video too in chrome |
| 15:02.47 | matlock | yea but that's based on pep |
| 15:03.00 | jelly | matlock: it is, so? |
| 15:03.09 | matlock | and for some reason, my system doesn't like the pep build |
| 15:04.00 | jelly | huh. Oh well. It WorksForMe on an intel graphic card, and on a nvidia blob system |
| 15:04.05 | mizlev | matlock: I would recommend chromium with html5, at least if it's for youtube. |
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| 15:05.32 | matlock | again i run into issues with sound with chrome based browsers |
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| 15:05.56 | jelly | matlock: which architecture and debian release btw? |
| 15:06.16 | matlock | Linux rinku 2.6.32-5-686-bigmem #1 SMP Sun Sep 23 10:27:25 UTC 2012 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 15:07.32 | jelly | matlock: lsb_release -sc? |
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| 15:07.46 | matlock | squeeze |
| 15:08.12 | jelly | yeah. The pulseaudio version in squeeze is a bit crappy |
| 15:08.19 | matlock | yea i had to fiddle with it a lot |
| 15:08.27 | matlock | virtualbox was always stealing priority |
| 15:08.33 | jelly | using alsa directly has obvious problems |
| 15:08.36 | matlock | yea |
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| 15:09.13 | matlock | i had to >> http://paste.debian.net/219574/ |
| 15:09.36 | hellyeah | lstill no answer hmm |
| 15:10.27 | matlock | hellyeah, you have an answer |
| 15:10.29 | matlock | use sudoedit |
| 15:10.34 | d3xter | what program is responsible for changing an entry in sysfs when pressing an fn-key? the kernel? |
| 15:10.36 | hellyeah | sudoedit |
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| 15:10.41 | hellyeah | how can i use sudoedit |
| 15:10.50 | matlock | sudoedit filetoedit |
| 15:11.14 | matlock | or man sudoedit |
| 15:11.17 | matlock | it'll teach you |
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| 15:11.36 | hellyeah | yeah |
| 15:11.39 | hellyeah | i understand |
| 15:11.47 | hellyeah | but what is the reason of that fault |
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| 15:11.56 | hellyeah | using nano sometimes trouble |
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| 15:13.01 | matlock | how do you attain root? |
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| 15:13.10 | matlock | what's the specific command you use to switch to root? |
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| 15:13.44 | matlock | my guess is you're using 'su' instead of 'su -' |
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| 15:15.33 | jelly | hellyeah: eg. "VISUAL=gedit sudoedit /etc/hosts" |
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| 15:16.28 | hellyeah | hey |
| 15:16.30 | hellyeah | root@debian:/home/hellblues/web/studyfortablecsshtml# VISUAL=gedit sudoedit /etc/hosts (gedit:25344): EggSMClient-WARNING **: Failed to connect to the session manager: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported ** (gedit:25344): WARNING **: Could not connect to session bus sudoedit: /etc/hosts unchanged |
| 15:16.42 | matlock | palmfaces |
| 15:16.44 | matlock | no |
| 15:16.48 | matlock | type exit |
| 15:16.59 | matlock | then type VISUAL=gedit sudoedit /etc/hosts |
| 15:17.05 | themill | hellyeah: think about what you're trying to achieve here. |
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| 15:17.17 | matlock | and hellyeah HOW DO YOU ATTAIN ROOT |
| 15:17.24 | matlock | do you use su or do you use su - |
| 15:17.38 | hellyeah | just su |
| 15:17.43 | matlock | that is your issue |
| 15:17.46 | matlock | use su - |
| 15:17.48 | matlock | not su |
| 15:18.10 | hellyeah | su - |
| 15:18.13 | matlock | su uses YOUR profile's linkings and stuff, su - logs you in as root using root's environment |
| 15:18.24 | matlock | therefore you'll be able to connect to the session dbus |
| 15:18.25 | matlock | etc |
| 15:18.28 | hellyeah | i didnt know that i will try |
| 15:18.29 | matlock | that's your main issue |
| 15:18.39 | jelly | matlock, hellyeah: actually, there is no reason to explicitely become root BEFORE running sudoedit. |
| 15:18.45 | matlock | exactly |
| 15:18.52 | matlock | but if he wants to just gedit something as root |
| 15:18.55 | jelly | so why are you dealing with su |
| 15:18.57 | matlock | su - works |
| 15:19.08 | themill | (You still need to export your X credentials to root prior to running any GUI program) |
| 15:19.09 | matlock | he's insisting on becoming root before running any commands it seems |
| 15:19.10 | hellyeah | gedit worked thank you |
| 15:19.18 | hellyeah | you saved me from hell of trouble |
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| 15:19.31 | hellyeah | here is some issue still i dunno it is important or not (gedit:25528): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to store changes into `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: Failed to create file '/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel.TB2NPW': No such file or directory (gedit:25528): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to set the permissions of `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: No such f |
| 15:19.38 | jelly | mayhaps your troubles are just beginning |
| 15:19.46 | matlock | ^^ |
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| 15:20.17 | neorpheus | ok usb stick is ready, im off to try the net install. ill let yall know how it goes |
| 15:20.22 | matlock | for future reference hellyeah ... you don't need to su or su - before running sudoedit |
| 15:20.30 | matlock | you can run sudoedit as your normal non root user |
| 15:20.43 | matlock | shouldn't have ANY issues with that |
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| 15:21.30 | hellyeah | thank you |
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| 15:22.26 | matlock | also i don't know if this is related to flash or not but yesterday my Xorg locked up like three times |
| 15:22.38 | matlock | it did happen right after a youtube video stalled out |
| 15:23.05 | matlock | but it could be related to something else, i checked my logs and nothing was noted that I could see.. I had to init 3 init 5 to get my junk back |
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| 15:24.20 | jon1 | hello |
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| 15:25.39 | jon1 | its must be working ;-/ |
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| 15:27.16 | jon1 | is using weechat |
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| 15:50.44 | goose | How can I get multiarch support on Squeeze? Do I have to download a specific ISO and install from that? |
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| 15:50.58 | dima | matlock is a great nickc |
| 15:51.11 | dvs | goose: I don't think it's available for Squeeze |
| 15:51.25 | goose | Only Wheezy? |
| 15:51.31 | dvs | yup |
| 15:51.51 | goose | Can I upgrade to Wheezy to get multiarch support from Squeeze? Or do I need to download the ISO and go that route? |
| 15:51.58 | goose | (from command line) |
| 15:52.17 | ceil | i recommend a clean install |
| 15:52.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | you can upgrade... other than in other distributions it actually works (well, most of the time) |
| 15:52.25 | ceil | upgrading via apt is a pita |
| 15:52.39 | ceil | (and not recommended by debian) |
| 15:52.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | huh? it just runs a while |
| 15:52.54 | goose | Bleh. I *just* finished configuring this install :( |
| 15:52.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | what? where does it say it's not recommended |
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| 15:52.56 | ceil | CutMeOwnThroat: dependency issues galore |
| 15:52.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | of course it is |
| 15:53.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | ceil, only if you made a mess and installed non-debian crap into it, which indeed is not recommended |
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| 15:53.49 | dvs | goose: why do you want multiarch anyways? |
| 15:54.00 | goose | dvs: steam linux |
| 15:54.15 | goose | on my 64 bit architecture |
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| 15:54.28 | goose | so I can utilize all my RAM |
| 15:54.28 | jelly | CutMeOwnThroat: so, you only use software that comes with an OS and never anything else? |
| 15:54.46 | goose | does generic wheezy have multiarch? or do I need a specific ISO? |
| 15:55.09 | jelly | yes it has multiarch, goose |
| 15:55.21 | goose | awesome. thanks fellas, appreciate the guidance. off to reimage my whole system again. |
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| 15:55.27 | dvs | goose: you need a specific ISO |
| 15:55.33 | jelly | !tell goose about multiarch howto |
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| 15:55.49 | themill | dvs: what specific ISO do you mean? |
| 15:56.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly, of course. :D |
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| 15:56.30 | wols | googlah: which debian arch do you run right now? |
| 15:56.35 | dvs | themill: Isn't there a specifc ISO like amd and i386? |
| 15:56.45 | wols | googlah: sorry. goose is alerady gone :( |
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| 15:57.19 | themill | dvs: there is an installer that can install either i386 or amd64. It has nothing to do with being able to install packages from i386 and amd64 on the same system |
| 15:57.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | installs a nice dotdeb package on jellys system and follows that up by installing random stuff from ubuntu ppas |
| 15:58.33 | jelly | CutMeOwnThroat: not all third or first party software is crap. |
| 15:59.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly, not all software has to be installed as packages either |
| 15:59.15 | dvs | themill: So what is that image in the multi-arch directory on the cdimage site? |
| 15:59.34 | jelly | it's illusory to expect people are only ever going to use just the software that comes with the distro; and it's rude to refuse or imply lack of support in that case |
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| 16:01.06 | themill | dvs: there is an installer that can install either i386 or amd64. It has nothing to do with being able to install packages from i386 and amd64 on the same system |
| 16:01.12 | Petaz | theres a new KNOPPIX version 7.0.5 |
| 16:01.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly, then (if you install random outside crap-or-non-crap packages) indeed you have to say that upgrades between versions aren't well supported and most often end in dependency hell |
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| 16:01.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | which they don't if you don't break stuff yourself before upgrade |
| 16:02.10 | Petaz | yes we want every body to be independent |
| 16:02.26 | jelly | CutMeOwnThroat: "most often"? Certainly not, that only happens with packages that interfere and clash in namespace with stuff already in Debian |
| 16:02.54 | Petaz | anyone ousing knoppix? |
| 16:03.03 | mapf | Hi everyone! I have a laptop and external monitor. So i want to set external monitor as primary for virtual terminals. What should I read/do? btw uvesafd is used |
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| 16:03.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | ... which you cannot exclude from happening if people just install random packages from the net. q.e.d. |
| 16:03.12 | Petaz | can i install debian using knoppix? |
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| 16:04.09 | mapf | should i tweak grub or uvesafb or everything else? |
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| 16:05.13 | nkuttler | Petaz: no |
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| 16:06.08 | Petaz | but knoppix is debian done right |
| 16:06.10 | jelly | Petaz: a debootstrap installation from a different Linux is possible and documented in the install guide, but a bit messy |
| 16:06.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | Petaz, the people on #knoppix :) And you can do it with debootstrap like from any other linux ( for more info /msg dpkg debootstrap ). But it will involve some handiwork |
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| 16:06.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | s/handiwork/messiness/ |
| 16:06.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | good word, that |
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| 16:07.05 | Petaz | ~theres no one on the channel |
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| 16:07.38 | jelly | Petaz: be patient |
| 16:07.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | I see two. |
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| 16:08.17 | Petaz | see i was right |
| 16:08.34 | pablo | hello guys, which is the difference between the x86_64 and the multiarch installer? |
| 16:09.43 | Petaz | the multiarch is to install on arm cpus |
| 16:09.45 | themill | pablo: the amd64 installer can only install the amd64 architecture; the multiarch installer can install _one_ of a number of architectures on a machine (typical combination is i386 and amd64) |
| 16:09.49 | themill | Petaz: no. |
| 16:09.59 | udoprog | pablo: http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch |
| 16:10.10 | themill | udoprog: no. different multiarch. |
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| 16:10.45 | Petaz | but if its named multi arch? |
| 16:10.52 | jelly | typical Debian overloading of technical terms |
| 16:11.00 | themill | jelly: s/Debian// |
| 16:11.08 | jelly | one thing may mean 2-3 different other things |
| 16:11.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | else it'd be too easy to understand |
| 16:11.33 | jelly | themill: no, Debian loves confusing people with that |
| 16:11.55 | jelly | see: "stable", "testing", "updates", and now "multiarch" |
| 16:11.58 | themill | jelly: it's not just Debian. (yes, Debian is good at it, but so is the entire computer industry) |
| 16:12.00 | dvs | CutMeOwnThroat: heh |
| 16:12.12 | pablo | themill: so the multiarch has the i386 and the amd64 kernels? |
| 16:12.38 | themill | pablo: it has complete package sets to be able to install either i386 or amd64 |
| 16:12.44 | Petaz | so debian still supports i386 ...! |
| 16:12.53 | themill | Petaz: no |
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| 16:13.05 | Petaz | no?! |
| 16:13.08 | Artemis3 | no i think i386 was removed some years ago, i486. |
| 16:13.26 | Petaz | lies |
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| 16:13.36 | montel | why the heck are there so many debian images files |
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| 16:13.43 | montel | i can just download the first one right? |
| 16:13.48 | themill | montel: yes |
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| 16:14.06 | jelly | Petaz: at present time, Debian's "i386" "Architecture" actually requires a minimum 80486 cpu |
| 16:14.22 | themill | !x86 |
| 16:14.23 | Artemis3 | should be renames i486... |
| 16:14.29 | themill | Artemis3: no |
| 16:14.30 | montel | themill, does the latest release still on gnome or is it xfce |
| 16:14.36 | themill | %x86 |
| 16:14.37 | dselect | Debian's i386 port is for the 32-bit x86 instruction set. Kernel flavours are "486" (non-SMP) and <bigmem>/<686-pae> for <PAE> support. Packages are mostly compiled to the <486> instruction set but some packages will use later instructions unconditionally (see Debian bug #609690). Other (particularly multimedia) packages will test for the availability of extensions like <SSE> and use them if available. Perhaps you wanted <amd64>? |
| 16:14.42 | kanliot | i remember owning a i486 |
| 16:14.48 | jelly | Artemis3: renaming would make a huge technical problem |
| 16:14.50 | themill | montel: you can install whatever desktop you want |
| 16:14.54 | dpkg | Debian's i386 port is for the 32-bit x86 instruction set. Kernel flavours are "486" (non-SMP) and <bigmem>/<686-pae> for <PAE> support. Packages are mostly compiled to the <486> instruction set but some packages will use later instructions unconditionally (see Debian bug #609690). Other (particularly multimedia) packages will test for the availability of extensions like <SSE> and use them if available. Perhaps you wanted <amd64>? |
| 16:15.00 | themill | hello, dpkg |
| 16:15.01 | Petaz | get the netinstall iso but make sure you install i386 to a i486 |
| 16:15.14 | montel | themill, what is by default thoguh |
| 16:15.19 | montel | i hate gnome 3 |
| 16:15.30 | themill | montel: defaults are irrelevant. You chose whatever you want. |
| 16:15.50 | Petaz | :) |
| 16:15.57 | Artemis3 | Petaz, as as silly as that sound :) hardly many 386s around tho |
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| 16:16.58 | Petaz | so mu ch for coherence in nomenclature |
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| 16:17.18 | montel | oh, its still using the old gnome lol |
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| 16:22.18 | pythonsnake | Hi~ |
| 16:22.20 | rryoumaa | is there such a thing as a union-type filesystem that will store on a ramdisk if it fits in the dedicated ramdisk amount, but use the disk if the ramdisk is full? |
| 16:22.38 | pythonsnake | Is there a way to hack the package manager to install in another PREFIX? |
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| 16:23.19 | themill | pythonsnake: what are you really trying to achieve? |
| 16:24.00 | pythonsnake | themill: installmanaged pkgs without root access. |
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| 16:24.43 | themill | pythonsnake: you can unpack them using "dpkg -x" but you're not going to have a working package most of the time. |
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| 16:25.50 | pythonsnake | themill: is there another way then? |
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| 16:26.27 | themill | pythonsnake: ask your admin to install the package |
| 16:26.44 | pythonsnake | dpkg -i --force-not-root --root=$HOME package.deb |
| 16:26.44 | dpkg | removes a liver from pythonsnake and replaces it with --force-not-root --root=$HOME package.deb |
| 16:26.59 | pythonsnake | what |
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| 16:27.08 | pythonsnake | anyways, can that work? |
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| 16:27.13 | udoprog | pythonsnake: overriding a huge set of default configuration options, but configuring the packages won't be possible without a chroot since most of them assumes a specific system structure |
| 16:27.29 | themill | pythonsnake: as I said, in general, you're not going to a working package. |
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| 16:27.53 | pythonsnake | themill: the point is to not have to ask him >> |
| 16:28.14 | udoprog | pythonsnake: then you are probably better of building the package yourself with a custom prefix |
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| 16:28.33 | themill | pythonsnake: what are you actually trying to do here.... please help us help you. |
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| 16:29.11 | pythonsnake | I have a lot of stuff to install and can't ask each time :/ |
| 16:29.32 | pythonsnake | and then justify myself |
| 16:30.03 | Petaz | just install knoppix |
| 16:30.17 | PerfDave | The point of a package-managed system is that the sysadmin can easily keep track of stuff that's installed, keep it up to date and secure. That's what we have sysadmins *for* |
| 16:30.31 | PerfDave | Other option would be to get your admin to set you up with a chroot which you can access with schroot, perhaps. |
| 16:30.46 | Petaz | http://knopper.net/knoppix/knoppix705-en.html |
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| 16:31.32 | themill | Petaz: please try to provide useful and correct answers. |
| 16:32.04 | Petaz | knoppix alreasy have everything installed |
| 16:32.23 | themill | Petaz: it does not. Knoppix is also not on-topic in #debian as you've been told. |
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| 16:32.39 | themill | pythonsnake: either get root access (or sudo access to install things) on that machine or get a chroot or virtual machine that you can work in. |
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| 16:36.27 | neorpheus | many thanks wols and matlock, the net install worked like a charm |
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| 16:37.11 | dvs | didn't think a D.A. knows a lot about Debian |
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| 16:37.18 | neorpheus | now to figure out how to prevent x from starting automatically |
| 16:37.28 | pythonsnake | Ok, thank you themill, udoprog and PerfDave :) |
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| 16:37.44 | dvs | dpkg, tell neorpheus about nodm |
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| 16:38.10 | neorpheus | dvs haha me either but apparantly the bar exam includes some pretty technical questions |
| 16:38.10 | jhutchins_wk | neorpheus: use something like rcconf to switch off the dm (most likely gdm). |
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| 16:39.51 | neorpheus | dvx wouldnt the info dpkg provided me with completely remove the window manager or am i misunderstanding? |
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| 16:40.33 | neorpheus | dvs* |
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| 16:43.18 | jhutchins_wk | neorpheus: All you want to do is turn the existing dm off, no need to remove or replace it. |
| 16:43.49 | neorpheus | that is correct |
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| 16:45.13 | dorphalsig | Hello, I'm trying to build a debian package.., I already have all files in the debian dir |
| 16:45.24 | dorphalsig | however I'm trying to disable a specific patch |
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| 16:45.46 | dorphalsig | so I comment out the corresponding line on debian/patches/series |
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| 16:45.59 | dorphalsig | but now svn-buildpackage barks in the most generic way |
| 16:46.16 | dorphalsig | dpkg-checkbuilddeps E: Found unresolved issues: ! debian/patches/pjproject_disable M debian/patches/series |
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| 16:49.19 | neorpheus | jhutchins_wk: ok on second thought i dont guess i really need to disable the dm. i thought i could free up some memory doing so but the overhead is minimal so i dont think im going to worry about that |
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| 16:51.41 | ElDiabolo | Hi. How do I force removal of gnome on a system with a broken dist-upgrade where several gnome components have broken dependencies ? |
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| 16:53.34 | ElDiabolo | I could dpkg -r gnome, but I can't autoremove the gnome packages. |
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| 16:55.08 | dima | if visudo complains that `visudo: no editor found (editor path = /usr/bin/editor)`, is it enough/correct to just # export EDITOR=`which vi` |
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| 16:56.27 | jelly | sounds reasonable if you want vi as the editor |
| 16:56.51 | themill | not having /usr/bin/editor available is a good trick |
| 16:57.01 | jelly | maybe verify that VISUAL is not set to /usr/bin/editor |
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| 16:57.22 | dima | hey jelly, btw, i unhacked my NAS if you recall, from yesterday |
| 16:57.36 | dima | jelly: thanks, regarding VISUAL |
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| 17:11.07 | jhutchins_wk | ElDiabolo: What about using aptitude? |
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| 17:14.27 | ElDiabolo | jhutchins_wk, I am currently doing a (after dpkg -r --force-depend some stuff) aptitude remove gconf2. Thx. |
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| 17:16.56 | themill | ElDiabolo: real output in a pastebin would be good to see. You should never have to --force anything. |
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| 17:21.09 | ElDiabolo | themill, Just ended this for today. |
| 17:21.13 | ElDiabolo | thx |
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| 17:31.52 | dorphalsig | Hello, I'm trying to disable the disable-pjproject patch on the debian package build files to try and see how I can build it. However, when going into debian/patches/series and commenting out the specified line and doing svn-buildpackage again, but the latter barks. |
| 17:32.15 | dorphalsig | Can anybody give me a hand?? |
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| 17:37.01 | dorphalsig | Hello, I'm trying to disable the disable-pjproject patch on the debian package build files to try and see how I can build it. However, when going into debian/patches/series and commenting out the specified line and doing svn-buildpackage again, but the latter barks. |
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| 17:40.25 | tremon | dorphalsig: try #debian-mentors on oftc. There is probably a good reason why it's disabled though |
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| 17:40.44 | dorphalsig | tremon: yeah, because it doesnt build |
| 17:40.50 | dorphalsig | I'm trying to make it build |
| 17:40.52 | dorphalsig | or something |
| 17:41.09 | tremon | that sounds like it would be a good reason :) |
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| 17:48.07 | JBzh | may anyone advise me : is it worth continue working on my Wheezy Wine 1.4 World of Warcraft install or do I must chroot a sid and install Wine 1.5.18 ? |
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| 17:58.07 | goose | In Squeeze, under Keyboard Shortcuts, there was a shortcut to launch a terminal; I don't see it in wheezy, how can I get it back? |
| 17:58.18 | abrotman | JBzh: try it and see ? |
| 17:58.28 | abrotman | goose: DE? |
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| 17:58.48 | goose | abrotman: DE? What's that? |
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| 17:59.21 | abrotman | goose: gnome kde? |
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| 17:59.37 | goose | Oh. How can I check? |
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| 18:00.08 | pythonsnake | goose: how does it look like ._. |
| 18:01.34 | Petaz | DE = Desert Eagle |
| 18:01.35 | xsappyx | JBzh: you might want to check out playonlinux.. you can install multiple wine versions simultaneously |
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| 18:09.58 | JBzh | xsappyx: I read all I can find, thank you |
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| 18:14.49 | apm1 | any news on wheezy beta 5 yet ? |
| 18:15.07 | zykotick9 | apm1: fyi the beta4 is the installer, not wheezy... |
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| 18:15.38 | apm1 | zykotick9, well thanks for correcting me :) |
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| 18:17.55 | themill | zykotick9: there's no intention to release a beta 5 of the installer |
| 18:18.07 | zykotick9 | apm1: see themill above |
| 18:18.36 | folivora | Gday, any has good solution to get bluetooth speakers to work without pulseaudio (with alsa |
| 18:18.46 | apm1 | themill, so going stable soon then ? |
| 18:18.52 | folivora | I have install blueman and bluez-alsa |
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| 18:19.13 | folivora | I amd trying to use audio sink on blueman but it wont fully work |
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| 18:25.25 | nisaarally | jelly-home the rsync did not work |
| 18:25.29 | nisaarally | gave errors |
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| 18:25.56 | jelly-home | errors. |
| 18:26.03 | ksuhku | :) |
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| 18:26.11 | jelly-home | do tell. |
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| 18:27.06 | nisaarally | says not enough space |
| 18:27.13 | nisaarally | when the nas has 2tb available |
| 18:27.26 | jelly-home | does the destination have enough space? |
| 18:27.51 | abrotman | apm1: You do understand there is no beta for wheezy, right ? |
| 18:28.01 | jelly-home | nisaarally: seems kind of obvious it would talk about the copy destination, not the source |
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| 18:28.29 | nisaarally | copy destination has 2tb as well |
| 18:28.38 | dokma | my debian desktop just started freezing |
| 18:28.51 | dokma | first time some 10 minutes ago, I rebooted and it worked for some 5 minutes and froze again |
| 18:28.58 | apm1 | abrotman, now i kinda do , i didn't know it was the installer that was beta not the whole testing release |
| 18:29.03 | nisaarally | be right back going for supper ... |
| 18:29.08 | dokma | both monitors just go to sleep mode and I cannot ssh into the machine |
| 18:29.20 | dokma | any good ideas how to test what's up with the system? |
| 18:29.29 | nisaarally | hope dan39 will respond and assist as he initially assisted ... for a cost ... lol |
| 18:29.38 | abrotman | apm1: correct |
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| 18:29.54 | abrotman | apm1: so, they are planning an RC for the installer, but not for the whole OS |
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| 18:30.25 | apm1 | abrotman, ok ,thanks for telling me :) |
| 18:30.58 | abrotman | apm1: i don't recall where i saw it, and i'm not sure on the timing, but it's largely irrelevant unless you're testing the installer |
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| 18:31.35 | spankme | hi everyone! I've issue with iptables and NAT'ing, I think I've reasonably clean iptables set, and yet I am getting messages about traffic being blocked that shouldnt be, if anyone could take a look, I'd appreciate a lot: http://pastebin.com/jmXmn2pS |
| 18:32.00 | apm1 | abrotman, ok so a weekely build is as good |
| 18:32.29 | abrotman | apm1: use the daily of the netinst |
| 18:32.38 | jelly-home | spanks him for asking in multiple channels at the same tim |
| 18:33.03 | abrotman | spankme: #netfilter would be a better place |
| 18:33.10 | acu | Where are python site-packages in Debian ? I didn't find it in /usr/lib/python2.7/ |
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| 18:33.54 | xsappyx | dokma: overheating maybe and shutting down automatically? |
| 18:34.26 | themill | acu: which version of debian are you looking in? |
| 18:35.03 | dvs | dokma: That's happening to me on my new laptop. A newer kernel seems to help but they haven't complete eliminated my lockups. |
| 18:35.24 | dokma | dvs: I just managed to log into the machine |
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| 18:35.30 | dokma | I can even ssh into from my laptop |
| 18:35.42 | dokma | it seems that just the graphics card died |
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| 18:35.51 | dokma | it just displays garbage on the screen |
| 18:36.01 | Delf | Is it just me or does approx actually slow down "apt-get update"? |
| 18:36.42 | dvs | dokma: Even switching to a console screen shows garbage? |
| 18:37.05 | dokma | dvs: let me try |
| 18:37.21 | dokma | dvs: yes |
| 18:37.28 | dokma | I'll try resetting it |
| 18:37.33 | dokma | but it's probably dead |
| 18:37.39 | abrotman | Delf: depends, try to update 20 boxes on a 2Mb line, or do it once and then share it |
| 18:37.49 | dokma | it's passively cooled so... it might just be it's due time... |
| 18:37.52 | acu | themill, Debian Wheezy |
| 18:38.00 | jelly-home | dokma: it might really be overheating, esp. if you're using free drivers |
| 18:38.11 | dvs | dokma: Ah, ok. Passively cooled. Make sense now. |
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| 18:39.06 | Delf | abrotman: The GET flies. More than happy with that part. But when performing an update.. it takes time. On one machine even. |
| 18:39.07 | themill | acu: /usr/lib/python2.7 should exist then if you have python2.7 installed (which is the default python) |
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| 18:39.56 | Delf | Could it be because I'm running Debian Squeese on the machine that's got approx and Wheezy on the "clients"? |
| 18:40.06 | Delf | Squeeze* |
| 18:42.20 | acu | themill, so , everything (all scripts) in /usr/lib/python2.7 are called site-packages? |
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| 18:43.18 | themill | acu: no, distributions ship modules in /usr/lib/pythonX.Y/dist-packages/ |
| 18:43.28 | Delf | During the installation of Debian. Is it possible to change the /etc/hosts file? |
| 18:43.49 | themill | acu: but these are implementation details that you shouldn't normally be concerned with -- what are you trying to do here? |
| 18:44.02 | Delf | And NO! I'm not changing the address of debian.org :) |
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| 18:45.26 | acu | themill, I need to install RPy in python virtualenv. Not quite sure how to do it yet |
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| 18:45.46 | themill | python-rpy is already in debian, btw |
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| 18:54.16 | acu | themill, yes. Here is the bigger picture: I have a python based application that comes with venv -- which is when activated creates a python virtual environment that uses python2.7. I have installed RPy with aptitude install in the system , but when I activate the venv and run my application, it can not access RPy from the system |
| 18:55.23 | d3xter | what can be wrong, when the keycode "kbdillumup/down" doesn't change the backlit? |
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| 19:00.16 | fjdsj | I'm trying to install debian via ssh, but the key fingerprint from the installer doesn't match one reported by putty, is that ok? |
| 19:01.02 | format_c | Well the ssh server from the installation medium? |
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| 19:01.35 | format_c | Of course the host key of that ssh server differs from the one that ran on the previous system |
| 19:01.50 | fjdsj | yes, from the media |
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| 19:02.09 | format_c | That's normal |
| 19:03.42 | phaidros | hi, using xen and pygrub I still need /boot/grub/menu.lst around, hence keeping grub-legacy. but something seems messed, as installing grub-legacy doesn't create the mneu.lst, neither does update-grub do it. it rather complains like this: http://pastebin.com/1Xe5y73Y |
| 19:03.53 | phaidros | any hints how to get the normal grub1 behaviour back? |
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| 19:04.04 | DexterF | hi |
| 19:04.11 | phaidros | (I just know that in ubuntu it works as expected) |
| 19:04.30 | DexterF | someone know a password generator that checks against cracklib? |
| 19:05.42 | phaidros | DexterF: try apg and use randomly generated memorable passwords :) |
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| 19:07.25 | DexterF | phaidros: yeh, guess ill stick to that |
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| 19:09.59 | phaidros | how to generate a menu.lst since squeeze ? |
| 19:11.25 | jelly-home | phaidros: first, verify whether you have grub-pc or grub-legacy installed. grub-pc ("grub 2") uses a different config file, /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 19:11.26 | ompaul | !grub2 |
| 19:11.26 | dpkg | [grub2] GNU GRUB 2 is the successor to GRUB Legacy (GNU GRUB version 0.9x). Packaged as grub-pc (PC/BIOS version) and grub-ieee1275 (Open Firmware version). Manual: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub . See also <grub2 squeeze>, <grub2 config>, http://wiki.debian.org/Grub2 . #grub on irc.freenode.net. |
| 19:11.48 | rgr | phaidros: "since squeeze"? depends. |
| 19:12.11 | ompaul | phaidros: if there is no menu.lst then you are running grub2 which doesn't work the same way |
| 19:12.14 | jelly-home | phaidros: update-grub should regenerate the config for the correct grub package installed. |
| 19:13.00 | phaidros | ompaul: jelly-home, I know about grub2 and use it regularly on normal machines. I just need a way to generate menu.lst as with grub1, because pygrub - the xen bootloader just doesnt read grub.cfg |
| 19:13.26 | phaidros | jelly-home: update-grub does not generate a menu.lst when installed grub-lagecy with the error pastie above |
| 19:13.31 | phaidros | http://pastebin.com/1Xe5y73Y |
| 19:13.41 | phaidros | what could be wrong? |
| 19:14.55 | phaidros | in ubuntu I still have update-grub which generates the menu.lst, just in debian somehow that is borked .. which makes me wonder what I might have messed up :D |
| 19:16.07 | phaidros | purging all grub packages, then installing grub-legacy results as well in the error (see pastie) |
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| 19:17.40 | jelly-home | phaidros: move the existing menu.lst aside and rerun |
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| 19:17.50 | phaidros | jelly-home: did that already a couple of times |
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| 19:17.56 | phaidros | no menu.lst gets generated |
| 19:17.59 | jelly-home | phaidros: how did it fail? |
| 19:18.10 | phaidros | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/1Xe5y73Y |
| 19:18.21 | jelly-home | that's without a menu.lst in place? |
| 19:18.24 | phaidros | ack |
| 19:18.24 | jelly-home | huh |
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| 19:19.01 | jelly-home | phaidros: you wouldn't be sharing the same /boot for multiple Linux installations? |
| 19:19.07 | phaidros | jelly-home: nope |
| 19:19.24 | phaidros | jelly-home: grub2 was installed before as it gets installed by default. |
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| 19:20.51 | phaidros | any hints |
| 19:20.53 | phaidros | ? |
| 19:21.29 | jelly-home | phaidros: it's an unusual message. If there's an /etc/default/grub, can youmove that one aside as well? |
| 19:21.31 | phaidros | jelly-home: then again, /boot/grub is empty |
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| 19:21.52 | phaidros | jelly-home: yes, unusual, thats why I'm here :) |
| 19:22.06 | phaidros | jelly-home: sadly /etc/default/grub doesnt exist .. |
| 19:22.25 | phaidros | jelly-home: I have the feeling that something is borked with grub-legacy |
| 19:22.33 | jelly-home | oh well, at that point I'd sh -x /usr/sbin/update-grub and look at what it does and where it fails |
| 19:22.47 | phaidros | jelly-home: good one! I'll do that |
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| 19:23.43 | phaidros | jelly-home: it wants to set the default entry 0, which doesnt exist, as there is no menu.lst |
| 19:24.02 | phaidros | how is a menu.lst generated beforehand nowadays?! |
| 19:24.17 | jelly-home | people use grub2 nowadays |
| 19:24.43 | phaidros | jelly-home: sure, and in environments where grub2 doesnt fit? |
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| 19:24.46 | jelly-home | it's quite possible some grub-legacy corner case has been broken in squeeze |
| 19:24.47 | relipse | how/where do i get debian desktop |
| 19:24.50 | jelly-home | phaidros: extlinux! |
| 19:24.53 | jelly-home | :-D |
| 19:24.56 | zinx | phaidros: make it fit? :P |
| 19:24.56 | phaidros | uh |
| 19:24.57 | themill | dpkg: tell relipse about install debian |
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| 19:25.15 | relipse | no i want the desktop version |
| 19:25.16 | relipse | with a gui |
| 19:25.45 | phaidros | zinx: well, debian doesn't ship pvgrub, and grub-lacy is broken, with the first I could use grub2 in xen VMs with the latter I use pygrub with menu.lst |
| 19:25.48 | phaidros | :/ |
| 19:26.09 | format_c | relipse, Debian has a Gui if you wish during install routing |
| 19:26.15 | themill | relipse: do feel free to read what dpkg said |
| 19:26.16 | format_c | even the installer can be graphical |
| 19:26.26 | phaidros | zinx: as soon as it is not just one or 3 machines one wants to stick to distribution tools ;) |
| 19:27.02 | relipse | ok so where is the download link? |
| 19:27.23 | phaidros | jelly-home: not sure if xen would boot extlinux ;) |
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| 19:27.50 | ompaul | relipse: check out http://www.debian.org |
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| 19:28.45 | phaidros | so, can anyone confirm that update-grub from grub-legacy does *not* generate a valid /boot/grub/menu.lst ? |
| 19:28.51 | jelly-home | phaidros: I have no experience with xen, sorry |
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| 19:32.04 | phaidros | ubuntu did some patches on the update-grub script: it asks: Could not find /boot/grub/menu.lst file. Would you like /boot/grub/menu.lst generated for you? (y/N) |
| 19:32.07 | phaidros | :> |
| 19:32.12 | phaidros | so I guess, I file a bug |
| 19:32.28 | themill | you'll struggle to get people to care about grub-legacy at this stage |
| 19:33.07 | themill | phaidros: are you sure you have only grub packages there now and not a mixture of grub and grub2? |
| 19:33.12 | jelly-home | it was the best grub everer |
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| 19:33.45 | xingu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9jWN5Myxtwg |
| 19:33.47 | Jemt | Hi. What are you guys using for offsite online backup (hosting and software) ? |
| 19:33.48 | zykotick9 | jelly-home: strongly disagree ;) |
| 19:34.17 | phaidros | themill: I purged all I could find |
| 19:34.36 | jelly-home | Jemt: does "rsync to my home machine" count |
| 19:35.17 | Jemt | jelly-home: Sure, the software does - now I need a hosting provider that supports it and is reliable :) |
| 19:35.21 | phaidros | probably I found it: touch /boot/grub/default .. m( |
| 19:35.24 | phaidros | now it works |
| 19:35.27 | xsappyx | Jemt: depends on budget and size requirements |
| 19:35.39 | Jemt | I'm condering DropBox - not sure whether I can trust their CLI application |
| 19:35.55 | jelly-home | tarsnap? |
| 19:35.56 | Jemt | Budget: 5-10 USD/month - need 50-100 GB |
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| 19:36.26 | Jemt | jelly-home, never heard of it - checking it out :) |
| 19:36.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | how do I find a certain host in known_hosts now that the hostnames are hashed by default? |
| 19:36.44 | Jemt | Tarsnap: Online backups for the truly paranoid - Great! :D |
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| 19:38.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmh, actually I would have thought »ssh-keygen -lv -f ~/.ssh/known_hosts|grep fingerprint« should have worked |
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| 19:38.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, only gives the changed fingerprint... how useful |
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| 19:39.10 | xsappyx | CutMeOwnThroat: check the -F option to ssh-keygen |
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| 19:44.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | xsappyx, thanks, that works for me |
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| 19:45.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | sooo...now I have to make up my mind if I want to connect despite changed fingerprint |
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| 19:47.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh well, what the heck |
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| 19:50.23 | relipse | i need to resinstall right now i have ubuntu 10.04 and it is messed up, doesn't detect internet, how do i know which files i need to back up? I have cron jobs, i have a whole bunch of mounts, i have a webserver and a bunch of scripts |
| 19:50.43 | relipse | can i automatically ask for a particular ip address 192.168.1.104 when starting up? |
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| 19:51.26 | dvs | !ubuntu |
| 19:51.26 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
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| 19:53.17 | jhutchins_wk | relipse: Yes, you can do that in Debian. |
| 19:53.24 | Jaleks | any ideas what options i may give to sshfs for that it is not so badly slow when used with rsync? |
| 19:53.53 | jhutchins_wk | Jaleks: sshfs + rsync doesn't make any sense. |
| 19:54.12 | Jaleks | over sshfs it's maybe over 10 times or worse slower than a direct rsync (where i do not like to put in my pass for every task again) |
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| 19:54.19 | jhutchins_wk | Jaleks: sshfs is a user-level pseudo filesystem. |
| 19:54.45 | jhutchins_wk | Jaleks: ur doin it rong. |
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| 19:55.20 | crolab | is actually moving files over sshfs as we speak |
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| 19:55.35 | Jaleks | jhutchins_wk: so what would you recommend for not having to put in the pass at each rsync task then, if i am wrong? |
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| 19:55.50 | jelly-home | Jaleks: pubkey auth for ssh. |
| 19:55.55 | jhutchins_wk | Jaleks: Use psks. |
| 19:55.58 | crolab | the debian side of the conection installed like a breeze |
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| 19:56.32 | jhutchins_wk | Jaleks: It's likely you're duplicating several processes like encryption and compression. |
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| 19:57.25 | jelly-home | Jaleks: or --password-file, or RSYNC_PASSWORD env.var. |
| 19:57.35 | jhutchins_wk | Jaleks: You're also working through userspace on what should be a system level process. |
| 19:57.59 | Jaleks | unfortunately ssh with pubkey is not working on the server side (at least most of the time not) - or is there a seperate key for rsync |
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| 19:58.25 | jelly-home | jhutchins_wk: that's not the issue here, really; the issue is rsync uses very different methodology when both source and dest. are local mounts |
| 19:58.45 | Jaleks | jelly-home: env var might be a good idea, thx |
| 19:58.45 | jelly-home | rsync then optimizes away the checksums and just copies files |
| 19:58.56 | jelly-home | Jaleks: in short, RTFM :-> |
| 19:59.12 | Jaleks | jelly-home: oh i thought i had ^^ |
| 19:59.33 | Jaleks | already the scanning process is very slow - transfer speed is no real problem here |
| 20:00.17 | jelly-home | if you have a large tree with millions of files, consider running multiple rsync jobs in parallel on subtrees |
| 20:01.01 | jelly-home | I _think_ very new rsync versions can do something similar on their own |
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| 20:02.06 | Jaleks | is there a way to force rsync to use remote methods on local mounts? |
| 20:02.14 | jelly-home | not that I know of |
| 20:02.16 | xsappyx | jelly-home: rsync 3+ does a much better job with large trees |
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| 20:03.06 | jelly-home | I know it keeps the memory usage lower |
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| 20:05.58 | Jaleks | well the env var should do it, must have overread it, thx |
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| 20:11.53 | crolab | head to #openssh and ask for basketcase - he is an rsync expert |
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| 20:12.59 | pythonsnake | Do chroot have any limitations compared to real root? |
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| 20:16.17 | crolab | chroot is used for it's implied limitations :) |
| 20:16.37 | juicer | hi guys, need little help to solve this >> GnuTLS error -15: An unexpected TLS packet was received, on my ftp with ssl |
| 20:17.05 | pythonsnake | crolab: i meant like can i run a webserver in a chroot? |
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| 20:18.20 | abailarri | Hello. Has anyone used ekiga? I get an error in my account and I can not fix it. |
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| 20:18.38 | crolab | pythonsnake: apache has mod_chroot |
| 20:18.41 | xsappyx | pythonsnake: you can run a webserver in a chroot, it will take a little work.. there are guides out there |
| 20:19.04 | pythonsnake | ok thanks |
| 20:19.15 | dilig | does xterm have no icon (for taskbar...) by default or is it a problem on my part? |
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| 20:20.29 | Jemt | Hi, check this out: find /home/jemt/data/ -type f -size -20G -print0 | xargs -0 tar -cvzf backup_2012_12_27.tar.gz <= Monitoring the size of my tar.gz will reveal that it reaches about 110 MB and then suddently drops back to 0 MB and kind of starts over. What happens ?? |
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| 20:21.27 | Jemt | The data folder contains about 55 GB, but the tar.gz file is only 3.6 GB when compression is finished - and most of the files are missing. So something is wrong - it seems the compression starts over several times |
| 20:21.32 | Jemt | Any ideas ? |
| 20:23.13 | Jemt | Oh, Google reveals the answer: if the list length for xargs to invoke the tar command is too big, xargs will split it into multiple command, and subsequent tar commands will overwrite previous tar archives |
| 20:23.15 | themill | Jemt: xargs is running tar multiple times there. |
| 20:23.27 | dilig | Jemt: why `-size -20G' and not `-size 20G' ? |
| 20:23.28 | Jemt | Yes |
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| 20:23.55 | Jemt | -20GB = all files less than 20 GB. Withoug the dash it would be exactly 20GB |
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| 20:24.45 | Jemt | I have some huge files that I don't want to back up |
| 20:24.55 | dilig | I am wondering why it is not documented in find's manpages under `-size' but later on... |
| 20:25.22 | Jemt | dilig: yes, I was puzzled by that too |
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| 20:28.19 | jelly-home | Jemt: that's because the man pages are not the reference manual for GNU software, info pages are. |
| 20:28.48 | dilig | jelly-home: aah, I forget that all the time. It kind of screws me off... |
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| 20:29.27 | jelly-home | and find's info says for -size: [...]The number can be prefixed with a `+' or a `-'. A plus sign indicates that the test should succeed if the file uses at least N units of storage (a common use of this test) and a minus sign indicates that the test should succeed if the file uses less than N units of storage. [...] |
| 20:30.09 | jelly-home | a bug report for the man page would probably lead to the inclusion of that bit |
| 20:30.25 | dilig | jelly-home: in- or exclusive? |
| 20:31.12 | dilig | jelly-home: if I understand the info page correctly, `+' is inclusive while `-' is not... |
| 20:31.38 | jelly-home | FIIK :-) |
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| 20:31.56 | jelly-home | try it and see |
| 20:32.19 | jelly-home | but yeah that's how it reads |
| 20:33.35 | Jemt | Oh, good to know - I'm always using the man pages |
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| 20:35.55 | Jemt | Hm, the solution to the problem I initially described could be using the -r switch for tar to have it append to the archive - but that's not possible when compressing to .gz. Can I turn a .tar into a .tar.gz ? |
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| 20:37.14 | jhutchins_wk | Jemt: Um, like gzip file.tar? |
| 20:37.22 | Jemt | Oh |
| 20:37.23 | xsappyx | Jemt: you'll have to create a big tar, and then zip it up after with gzip (or bzip, or ..) |
| 20:37.26 | Jemt | That simple |
| 20:37.35 | Jemt | I see - thanks |
| 20:37.48 | Jemt | Will it compress the tar just as well ? |
| 20:37.58 | Jemt | .. as tar -cvzf |
| 20:38.15 | dilig | what else could it compress? |
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| 20:38.53 | Jemt | Raw files before it ends up in the archive? Not sure |
| 20:39.12 | jhutchins_wk | Jemt: tar uses gzip to do the compression, so yes. |
| 20:39.24 | Jemt | tar -cvzf = compress individual files and add to archive. gzip tar = compress tar file (not files within the archive) |
| 20:39.24 | dilig | Jemt: it should compress the tar archive ;) |
| 20:39.32 | Jemt | Okay :) |
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| 20:40.40 | dilig | first uniting files as a tar and then compressing it should give the same result as having tar do all the steps altogether |
| 20:41.16 | Jemt | Perfect |
| 20:41.41 | pythonsnake | are there any risks involved when i give schroot to users? |
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| 20:41.54 | crolab | doing it in 2 steps uses less tmp space |
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| 20:43.13 | dilig | pythonsnake: the greatest risk considering chroots is giving people root access to a chroot whom one does not trust to give root access to the host |
| 20:43.33 | Jaleks | great RSYNC_PASSWORD is not working for me - anyone any further idea how to cache a rsync pass over some tasks? (--password-file is no option) |
| 20:44.14 | jelly-home | forgot to export it? |
| 20:44.16 | dilig | pythonsnake: just read the manpage of schroot |
| 20:44.16 | pythonsnake | dilig: what |
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| 20:44.26 | jhutchins_wk | Jaleks: I would recommend getting the keyfiles working. |
| 20:44.48 | Jaleks | unfortunately not, an 'env|grep' showed it up |
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| 20:45.23 | Jaleks | jhutchins_wk: they do not even work correctly for ssh, no idea why, they just work only sometimes |
| 20:45.53 | Jaleks | jhutchins_wk: and of course its not my server... |
| 20:46.00 | jelly-home | Jaleks: no idea then |
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| 20:47.46 | b_jonas | hi |
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| 20:48.41 | b_jonas | I wonder, what magic is it that makes the command 'man git reflog' finds the manpage for git-reflog instead of searching for two separate manpages, one for git and one for reflog? |
| 20:49.57 | jelly-home | b_jonas: it's ponies. |
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| 20:50.01 | dilig | pythonsnake: (in case I am not too late...) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privilege_escalation#Jailbreaking |
| 20:51.17 | dilig | pythonsnake: what I meant was: don't give chroot root access to people you don't trust to have root privileges on the host |
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| 20:52.58 | b_jonas | jelly-home: could be |
| 20:53.15 | dilig | how cute |
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| 20:54.16 | Jaleks | b_jonas: man man: " By default, man will try to interpret pairs of manual page names given on the command line as equivalent to a single manual page name containing a hyphen or an underscore." |
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| 20:54.30 | pythonsnake | dilig: gotcha |
| 20:54.32 | pythonsnake | thanks |
| 20:54.36 | Jaleks | b_jonas: try 'man --no-subpages' if you have no need for that |
| 20:54.48 | b_jonas | Jaleks: I see |
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| 20:58.07 | dilig | pythonsnake: you are welcome. Are you chrooting with schroot? if yes, see the different manpages with `man -k schroot' |
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| 20:58.38 | pythonsnake | okie |
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| 21:05.33 | crolab | pythonsnake: you only have a chroot for root if you want to create a selected compiling environment - having a regular user given root access to a chroot makes NO sense |
| 21:06.21 | pythonsnake | crolab: why |
| 21:06.30 | crolab | the whole point of a chroot is so the user is 'locked' into what you give him |
| 21:06.51 | pythonsnake | or for regular user to use pkg mgr |
| 21:07.19 | crolab | you kidding right? |
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| 21:07.38 | pythonsnake | nope |
| 21:07.39 | Skaag | what's the correct place to put some exports that I need gdm3 to pickup in debian? |
| 21:07.50 | Skaag | (on boot) |
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| 21:13.42 | solus | hey guys I have 1 hdd inside my pc. How can I create 2 partitions of my / partition? I want one with the filesystem and one without anything |
| 21:13.50 | solus | the second one just with nothing |
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| 21:15.05 | dokma | dvs: let me try |
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| 21:15.32 | dvs | solus: Sure, but you have to shrink the existing partition (gparted?) |
| 21:15.33 | crolab | easiest way -> is there anything on the / now that is important? redo the install and select expert and do the fdisk partition yourself |
| 21:18.01 | Zitter | hi, scanner worked only after a reboot. It appeared on sane-find-scanner but *not* in scanimage -L After system restart it appears also in scanimage command. Anyone can explain why I needed that? |
| 21:18.06 | solus | yes but the shrink option isnt coloured so i can click on it |
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| 21:18.20 | solus | it is just like all non-clickable options |
| 21:18.40 | dvs | solus: You have to use a live CD to do it. It won't be able to shrink itself. |
| 21:19.35 | solus | my pc won't load into the livecd |
| 21:19.38 | solus | using a usb |
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| 21:20.42 | dvs | solus: Then you have to do what crolab says and reinstall |
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| 21:21.45 | solus | hmm |
| 21:21.52 | solus | good one :) |
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| 21:23.21 | solus | the fact is, is that I need to update my BIOS, but I have an acer aspire 5315 and updating the bios to the correct version goes by windows |
| 21:23.23 | solus | and not by linux |
| 21:23.26 | solus | stupid acer |
| 21:24.15 | dvs | solus: The BIOS cannot upgrade itself? (Loading a file off of a drive?) |
| 21:24.29 | solus | well |
| 21:24.56 | solus | 1. Please kindly unzip <BIOS_v1.45.zip> under windows mode. |
| 21:24.56 | solus | 2. Right click "BIOS_v1.45.exe" and execute this file as an administrator to update bios. |
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| 21:25.07 | solus | says the readme |
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| 21:26.00 | solus | okay guys, i'm gonna try the gparted livecd one more time |
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| 21:31.30 | crolab | did he want to make a freedos boot floppy :) |
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| 21:52.30 | HardDisk_WP | hey |
| 21:52.59 | HardDisk_WP | how do I display the offsets in a file at which the byte sequence 0xf00baa appears? |
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| 21:56.19 | HardDisk_WP | like grep, just binary |
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| 21:59.46 | damacus | you can kinda get there using grep itself |
| 21:59.58 | damacus | using -o and -b |
| 22:00.07 | HardDisk_WP | kk |
| 22:00.21 | damacus | but yeah i dunno anything more precise. curious if someone has something better, short of writing a small program :) |
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| 22:01.06 | HardDisk_WP | there's on github, lol |
| 22:01.08 | HardDisk_WP | bgrep |
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| 22:01.25 | HardDisk_WP | just did the trick, now if it could only give the offsets in decimal, not hex -.- |
| 22:01.34 | damacus | nice |
| 22:02.02 | HardDisk_WP | doing the split filename/offset was easy with awk, but how do I now convert this list of hexnumbers into decimal? |
| 22:02.14 | crolab | HardDisk_WP: make a wrapper so you can input dec and it converts to hex :) |
| 22:02.25 | Jemt | Hello again. I'm backing up 55 GB using this: find /home/jemt/data -type f -size -20G -print0 | xargs -0 tar -rvf /home/jemt/backups/data.tar Unfortunately I'm having huge performance problems, even though tar only consumes about 10-20% CPU. The tar archive hardly grows when it reaches 35 GB. Why is that ? |
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| 22:04.25 | HardDisk_WP | fuck it, i'll write a php script... that stuff on stackoverflow makes me go for more beer only |
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| 22:06.53 | jhutchins_wk | Jemt: I would guess that the find command is doing less output at that point. |
| 22:07.23 | jhutchins_wk | Jemt: Any reason for using xargs instead of -exec? |
| 22:07.26 | Jemt | jhutchins_wk: Hm, it's iterating very small files at that point (0-1 MB) |
| 22:07.43 | jelly-home | jhutchins_wk: easier to remember syntax |
| 22:08.02 | Jemt | Nope, suppose I can do the same with -exec now that I'm appending to the archive |
| 22:08.21 | Jemt | Probably lets me get rid of -print0 too |
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| 22:08.28 | jelly-home | less prone to errors (even tho -exec ... + does the same thing now) |
| 22:08.56 | jelly-home | prefers xargs |
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| 22:10.51 | crolab | Jemt: this is the time when locate/slocate rules over find |
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| 22:12.14 | Jemt | crolab: perhaps - not sure whether it supports the same switches (-size, -type, -exec) |
| 22:12.24 | Jemt | I'll give find a last chance :) |
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| 22:13.22 | crolab | you can pipe the results to any other filters you can devise |
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| 22:19.10 | jhutchins_wk | jelly-home: Never having used xargs it wouldn't have an advantage for me - might as well learn the -exec syntax. |
| 22:19.54 | smurf | Hello, I want an NFS share to be mounted at boot, I therefore added the following line to /etc/fstab: 192.168.1.101:/mnt/tank /mnt/tankOnDebian auto rw,addr=192.168.1.101 0 0, but without success. What could be wrong? |
| 22:20.52 | jelly-home | smurf: replace "auto" with "nfs" for a start |
| 22:20.55 | smurf | ok |
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| 22:21.44 | tremon | secondly, install nfs-common |
| 22:22.21 | smurf | alright thanks guys, I will give feedback |
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| 22:27.20 | crolab | smurf: just a suggestion - put your nfs mount command towards the end of /etc/rc.local rather then in /etc/fstab - this seems to allow all needed partitions to be mounted so all apps are available etc |
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| 22:28.12 | dvs | crolab: huh? |
| 22:28.27 | tremon | crolab: rc.local loses dependency information. besides, netdev mounts are already performed at the end of the boot cycle |
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| 22:28.59 | crolab | tremon what dependency information? |
| 22:29.09 | tremon | if you really want to avoid fstab, then install autofs. rc.local is brittle |
| 22:29.43 | tremon | crolab: for example, systemd knows that it should probe the necessary kernel modules before trying an nfs mount |
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| 22:30.08 | tremon | it will not do that if the "mount" is a single line in rc.local |
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| 22:31.35 | smurf | ok, I restarted the server but it still doesn't auto-mount, manual mount works, I'm thinking my syntax is not correct, if someone would verify: 192.168.1.101:/mnt/tank /mnt/tankOnDebian nfs rw,addr=192.168.1.101 0 0 |
| 22:32.09 | tremon | if the manual mount works, then the problem is not in fstab |
| 22:32.15 | smurf | alright |
| 22:32.16 | dvs | smurf: the "auto" goes with the rw part |
| 22:32.33 | smurf | aha |
| 22:32.35 | tremon | isn't auto the default though? |
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| 22:33.34 | uh4 | ioctl: No such device - i have this problem |
| 22:33.35 | dvs | tremon: I think it is but I have that specified for one of my external mounts. |
| 22:34.04 | tremon | smurf: if you can scrollback on the console or have bootlogd, please review any error messages given during boot |
| 22:34.38 | smurf | thanks for the advise guys, I will digg a little further on my own |
| 22:35.23 | smurf | ok, I was misreading, changing 'auto' to 'nfs' did the trick |
| 22:36.10 | smurf | thought auto would infer NFS by seeing the IP address, but I guess there are more protocols that use an IP address :-) |
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| 22:38.03 | jhutchins_wk | Indeed. |
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| 22:38.40 | mrtux | ##slackware |
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| 22:41.31 | confusid | How does one go about specking out an arm system? I have a Raspberry Pi and was looking at Soekris and Exynos 4412 but not sure what would be a better build system? |
| 22:46.04 | DeltaHeavy | Anybody find the "Time Tracker" that comes with the 'gnome' package to be buggy and unusable? It's mind blowing how this got packaged unless there's something I"m doing wrong |
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| 22:46.55 | tremon | confusid: there aren't that many benchmarks published for arm boards |
| 22:47.12 | jhutchins_wk | DeltaHeavy: What release? |
| 22:47.29 | tremon | according to http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=4256&sid=8bb0fe61ebe7b683d43f226f3ddfa3c1, the preferred build board for raspbian is an iMX53 |
| 22:47.31 | DeltaHeavy | jhutchins_wk: Squeeze, are you familiar with the program I"m talking about? |
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| 22:49.25 | jhutchins_wk | DeltaHeavy: I used something similar in KDE a few years ago, so no, not really. Just getting some relevant details out here. |
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| 22:49.42 | confusid | tremon: i have a raspberry pi B board and it is nice but not that powerful. Was hoping to have something with a bit more power. I cant clock the RPI over 950mhz. Was looking at Soekris but no video or sound options. Then Panda seems to be ok and the Odroid-X board But the prices jump way up for something I don't know how it would work. |
| 22:50.08 | jhutchins_wk | DeltaHeavy: It would be best to describe the problems you're having specifically. As you suspect, it may not be problems with that package. |
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| 22:50.23 | tremon | confusid: I'd say, just look for the highest clock rate and largest memory size. most arm chips are fairly simple, I think they're all near 1 ipc |
| 22:50.44 | DeltaHeavy | Well, I'm trying to start a task but it starts and adds a new entry but doesn't change the time when it was earlier today. I also can't remove sessions even if the job doesn't exist anymore. |
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| 22:51.02 | confusid | tremon ty |
| 22:51.27 | tremon | soekris isn't really aimed at heavy lifting, they're really switching processors (fast memory operations but less powerful arithmetic) |
| 22:51.56 | tremon | I do know they've tweaked their processors, don't know to what extent |
| 22:52.34 | confusid | tremon Odroid-X board has a quad 4 arm core which raises more questions for me. If the other 3 would ever be used properly. |
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| 22:53.18 | hjohnson | has a little alix that he uses as a gateway, running a mutant voyage/debian combo... |
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| 22:53.26 | hjohnson | it can handle about 75mbps or so that I throw at it. |
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| 22:53.40 | hjohnson | (basically similar design to the old geode soekris boards) |
| 22:53.48 | confusid | then the GPU's.. I've read a bit on them but nothing makes sence.. It's not draw out like looking at a nvidia card or something. |
| 22:54.08 | tremon | I wouldn't expect anything opencl on arm soon... |
| 22:54.41 | tremon | make -j4 does wonders for most builds, so the quad cores could be used to full effect, but I'm not sure the i/o is fast enough for that |
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| 22:55.50 | confusid | hjohnson: never heard of voyage linux. Looking at it now. You using the 0.9-rc1? |
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| 23:41.48 | xsappyx | DYSW: has this worked before or a new install? try a different ethernet adapter type maybe? |
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| 23:43.06 | DYSW | xsappyx: it worked fine before. just started the vm today after a move and now i get that message. there is no options in sqeeze and the virtualbox setting is just nat. Not much to change there |
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| 23:45.28 | xsappyx | DYSW: you have an eth0 on that machine? ifconfig show an eth1 instead? maybe your MAC address changed? check the mac in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
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| 23:45.57 | DYSW | xsappyx: ifnconfig only shows Io nothing else |
| 23:46.04 | DYSW | th |
| 23:46.05 | DYSW | x |
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| 23:51.44 | DYSW | xsappyx: Now i have changed the eth0 line in that file so it matches the mac adress given to it by the virtualbox. But im not sure it sticks if i reboot |
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| 23:56.02 | xsappyx | DYSW: that persistent-net file will get rebuilt.. it is common with cloned machines to just whack that file after you clone |
| 23:56.19 | DYSW | whack it ? |
| 23:56.27 | xsappyx | DYSW: rm |
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| 23:56.43 | DYSW | ahh and then reboot so a new will be made |
| 23:57.55 | DYSW | thx will try that |
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