| 00:00.00 | Brigo | boby: new for me, interesting ... |
| 00:00.04 | boby | ;-) |
| 00:00.06 | echo083 | abrotman, yes, something i could use in my web browser |
| 00:00.06 | boby | enjoy |
| 00:00.26 | abrotman | echo083: then yes, dpkg-www .. though, it's total overkill IMO |
| 00:00.41 | echo083 | abrotman, IMO ? |
| 00:01.10 | abrotman | !tell echo083 about imo |
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| 00:01.32 | echo083 | !tell help |
| 00:01.40 | abrotman | dpkg: tell echo083 about help |
| 00:02.00 | echo083 | abrotman, !tell didn't tell me about imo |
| 00:02.16 | abrotman | yes, it did, you just can't find it in your IRC client |
| 00:02.42 | echo083 | abrotman, what should i install to support the tell client in my irc client ? |
| 00:02.56 | abrotman | gives up |
| 00:02.57 | echo083 | tell client/tell command/ |
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| 00:03.37 | LtL | echo083: 1) use a good client. 2) imo - in my opinion |
| 00:03.49 | echo083 | abrotman, you could tell me i'll receive the message in private from user dpkg thanks anyway |
| 00:04.02 | echo083 | LtL, i'm using the best irc client in the world |
| 00:04.48 | echo083 | have fun guys |
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| 00:05.21 | echo083 | LtL, don't ctcp me ok !! |
| 00:05.37 | LtL | echo083: heh, k. just curious. |
| 00:06.01 | echo083 | LtL, curious but ask me the autorisation ok ?? |
| 00:06.04 | abrotman | echo083: where did you think it was going to go? |
| 00:06.17 | LtL | echo083: you're right, beg your pardon |
| 00:06.19 | abrotman | LtL: mirc? |
| 00:06.22 | echo083 | abrotman, in the channel like usual |
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| 00:06.31 | abrotman | echo083: it's "like usual" |
| 00:06.31 | LtL | abrotman: no reply |
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| 00:06.52 | abrotman | echo083: the bot has the ability to show the info in the channel or in msg .. i prefer to send it to msg, it's not rocket science |
| 00:07.43 | echo083 | abrotman, i didn't know i've always seen answer to irc command in the current channel so that everybody get the information |
| 00:07.55 | abrotman | yeah, some people are silly like that |
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| 00:08.49 | echo083 | abrotman, problem solve, it was a great lose of time thanks anyway |
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| 00:29.28 | fredcooke | abrotman | won't be missed |
| 00:29.28 | fredcooke | The feeling is purely mutual, I assure you :-) Adios Tait! |
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| 00:31.53 | abrotman | boohoo? |
| 00:32.19 | abrotman | some people are such losers ... |
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| 00:54.16 | flock-_ | hello. is there any good good to learn how to install mod security? |
| 00:54.59 | abrotman | flock-_: try again |
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| 01:00.57 | slystone | Hi! |
| 01:01.19 | slystone | I seem to have a problem with ssh. Could someone please help? |
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| 01:01.54 | Brigo | what is the problem? |
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| 01:04.55 | conphusion | What does |
| 01:05.02 | conphusion | "m" mean in kernel config? |
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| 01:05.55 | LtL | conphusion: module i believe |
| 01:06.02 | conphusion | ok |
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| 01:06.13 | conphusion | I'm trying to get a webcam to work, and it is UVC supported |
| 01:06.25 | conphusion | but I can't figure out if UVC is actually installed in my kernel version |
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| 01:07.00 | conphusion | it's 2.6.35.5-xen-amd64 |
| 01:07.13 | conphusion | it's 2.6.32.5-xen-amd64 * |
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| 01:09.54 | abrotman | conphusion: /msg dpkg uvc |
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| 01:11.53 | conphusion | isn't that for the pkg version rather than the kernel version? |
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| 01:14.05 | slystone | Brigo: I have the message remote host identification has changed, etc. |
| 01:15.06 | abrotman | conphusion: that's an IRC command |
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| 01:17.27 | LtL | slystone: that usually means a machine/hardware change and is usually harmless provided you know it's the correct host. |
| 01:17.50 | conphusion | ah |
| 01:18.27 | slystone | LtL: it's the correct host. I had a system running on PI. I wiped the sd card and reinstalled it. The I tried to connect, and I got this message. |
| 01:19.15 | slystone | LtL: and I don't know what to do. I tried 'sudo ssh-keygen -R {pi@ip} |
| 01:19.44 | slystone | then 'sudo rm /etc/ssh/ssh_host*' |
| 01:19.48 | LtL | slystone: if you have strict host checkimg enabled you can rm ~/.ssh/known_hosts or remove it's key. |
| 01:19.48 | conphusion | yes, so it's supposed to be in there, which is what I saw before. But the webcam, which is supported, does not work |
| 01:19.55 | darmok | Is there a way to increase the input text size on a pdf in Evince? I'm filling out a form and the text is too small. |
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| 01:20.04 | slystone | then 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server' |
| 01:20.12 | slystone | But I'm stuck with the same error. |
| 01:20.38 | slystone | LtL: I tried, but in vain. |
| 01:21.58 | slystone | LtL: to be clear, the system on my pi is brand new. |
| 01:22.30 | slystone | On my netbook from which I'm trying to connect, I tried all of what I've just explained. |
| 01:22.36 | slystone | and no result. |
| 01:22.57 | slystone | I checked with a 'ls -l' into /etc/ssh |
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| 01:24.18 | slystone | LtL: it seems I have no ~/.ssh :-/ |
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| 01:29.16 | ldnblk | hi there I am trying to get the 3D screen (compiz) working, is there anyone in the channel that has configured and has the 3d desktop working ? |
| 01:29.26 | LtL | slystone: can you ssh from the netbook to the pi |
| 01:29.47 | LtL | slystone: err, the pi to the netbook |
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| 01:30.19 | neon__ | LtL, yup, it was a youtube video of someone showing how freevo looks like. I need to add flashblock so that these flash won't start playing on their own |
| 01:30.44 | LtL | neon__: good |
| 01:31.07 | LtL | slystone: i'm not sure what's happening and i don't know pi |
| 01:31.40 | slystone | LtL: hum, I'm going to try. |
| 01:31.50 | neon__ | LtL, I killed icewasel and restarted it, and heard the same thing, then I searchd that tab. I have a million tabs opened :/ |
| 01:31.51 | LtL | slystone: you should have a ~/.ssh/ on the netbook though |
| 01:32.31 | LtL | neon__: that's quite a few tabs! |
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| 01:32.56 | neon__ | LtL, I know, took me some time to find ... |
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| 01:35.48 | conphusion | Okay, so in /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-xen-amd64/kernel/drivers/video/uvc the directory is empty |
| 01:36.09 | conphusion | which means I can't modprobe in any uvcvideo and thus can't use my webcam |
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| 01:36.13 | conphusion | how do I fix that? |
| 01:36.36 | LtL | conphusion: newer kernel? |
| 01:37.26 | slystone | LtL: no, it prints "connection reset by pair" or "connection closed". |
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| 01:38.30 | conphusion | I don't get it though... this is new enough |
| 01:38.42 | LtL | slystone: you must use auth keys which i don't. ssh-copy-id might be of use, i'm not an expert in this area. |
| 01:38.52 | slystone | ssh is running on both machines, I restarted it, I checked the port ('sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT'), I've checked the ip adress on both machines… |
| 01:39.09 | conphusion | anything over 2.6.26 should have it |
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| 01:40.33 | slystone | LtL: ok, I've tried ssh -v, I'm doing a paste. |
| 01:41.00 | slystone | LtL: http://paste.tdct.org/index.php?9k |
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| 01:43.27 | Tramp | slystone: do, as the message says: remove the first line of the known_host file (or rm the file altogether, if there are no other relevant keys in it) |
| 01:43.32 | LtL | slystone: rm /root/.ssh/known_hosts maybe |
| 01:44.58 | slystone | LtL: I wish, but I have no /root folder. |
| 01:45.06 | abrotman | what? |
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| 01:49.41 | LtL | slystone: maybe if you re-create the host keys with ssh-keygen -t 'dsa/rsa' and over write the files in /etc/ssh. could be permissions but doubtful. check /var/log/auth.log too. |
| 01:49.57 | gnarface | probably should re-create /root too... |
| 01:50.07 | gnarface | *sigh* |
| 01:50.14 | slystone | LtL: I finally got it. \o/ |
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| 01:51.01 | LtL | slystone: strange you have no /root/ folder |
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| 01:51.25 | slystone | I could do 'rm /root/.ssh/known_hosts', but 'cd /root' would not work. |
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| 01:51.56 | slystone | LtL: I have a root folder (it seemed to bizarre), I am just unable to access it apparently. |
| 01:52.10 | LtL | slystone: weird |
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| 01:53.33 | LtL | slystone: glad it works :) |
| 01:54.32 | conphusion | ok, so if I have the kernel source for uvcvideo, how do I build it into a module without recompiling the whole kernel? |
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| 01:55.16 | slystone | LtL: I'm a n00b, sorry. |
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| 01:55.28 | LtL | slystone: don't be |
| 01:55.38 | slystone | I forgot I had to write 'sudo cd root' -_-' |
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| 01:56.17 | LtL | slystone: ah, i like to be root, although i use sudo now and then. |
| 01:57.04 | slystone | LtL: I was a aware of the rights system, I just did not know one had to be root to access some folders. |
| 01:57.19 | LtL | slystone: oh yes |
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| 01:58.59 | slystone | LtL: Sorry! One has to learn through mistakes… |
| 01:59.22 | LtL | slystone: this is true :) |
| 01:59.57 | slystone | ^^' |
| 02:00.09 | slystone | LtL: thanks for the help! :-) |
| 02:00.17 | LtL | slystone: welcome |
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| 02:03.40 | zvacet | sorry for trivial question I installed base system can you give me advice or link about installing other package ( compilers etc) |
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| 02:04.39 | zvacet | also multimedia plugins and so can I find some kind of list at one place |
| 02:04.40 | wilmaaaah | zvacet: which packages or how to install packages? |
| 02:04.55 | zvacet | wilmaaaah: witch packages |
| 02:05.06 | zvacet | *which |
| 02:05.28 | wilmaaaah | deb-multimedia offers a repository for codecs for example |
| 02:05.35 | wilmaaaah | which compilers? |
| 02:05.43 | LtL | slystone: why do you want to sudo ssh anyway |
| 02:05.43 | wilmaaaah | install build-essential |
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| 02:06.39 | zvacet | wilmaaaah: I added repo and install build-essential but I know there is more packages to install for compiling for example |
| 02:07.12 | zvacet | wilmaaaah: gcc |
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| 02:08.12 | slystone | LtL: to use my raspberry pi as a server (sftp, weechat client in screen, web server…) |
| 02:08.20 | LtL | zvacet: gcc is in build-essential |
| 02:08.41 | slystone | LtL: I'm not that dumb usually. >< |
| 02:08.57 | LtL | slystone: can't you just ssh in then become root? |
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| 02:09.49 | LtL | slystone: disable root logins always. |
| 02:10.05 | zvacet | wilmaaaah: can you tell me is this correct list http://debianhelp.wordpress.com/2011/11/06/to-do-list-after-installing-debian-squeeze/ |
| 02:10.18 | slystone | LtL: hum, it makes sense. I will. :-) |
| 02:10.38 | LtL | slystone: /etc/ssh/sshd_config i believe |
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| 02:12.12 | GI_Jack | how do I make packages in debian, can someone link a wiki or something? |
| 02:12.31 | wilmaaaah | zvacet: you don't need to delete your sources.list, just add the repo and use a server close to your location |
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| 02:12.46 | slystone | LtL: thanx |
| 02:12.58 | wilmaaaah | zvacet: it all depends on what you want to do with your system |
| 02:13.01 | LtL | slystone: you're welcome |
| 02:13.40 | zvacet | wilmaaaah: ok about that but what about packages listed in that page is list correct and complete (I know how it sounds) |
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| 02:16.20 | wilmaaaah | zvacet: i'm missing the mail, web and samba server. sounds alright for a desktop system |
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| 02:16.52 | zvacet | wilmaaaah: desktop is what I want |
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| 02:17.43 | wilmaaaah | zvacet: you can add software anytime you like. this guide seems a good start |
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| 02:18.09 | zvacet | wilmaaaah: that is what I need good start :) |
| 02:18.29 | wilmaaaah | zvacet: alright :) |
| 02:18.31 | scwizard | when I changed the dhcp range on this firewall, my server got a dhcp ip |
| 02:18.53 | zvacet | wilmaaaah: tnx for your time and help :) |
| 02:19.02 | scwizard | however in /etc/network/interfaces a static IP is set |
| 02:19.06 | scwizard | and dhcp isn't mentioned |
| 02:19.08 | wilmaaaah | zvacet: you're welcome |
| 02:19.29 | scwizard | network manager isn't installed (it's a headless system) |
| 02:19.55 | zvacet | wilmaaaah: I´m sure i will have more question but this is enough for one day |
| 02:21.00 | zvacet | wilmaaaah: tnx and good night |
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| 02:33.04 | tenagra | I updated my /etc/apt/sources.list file with the deb.multimedia part, but aptitude still can't find package "acroread". How do I install Adobe Acrobat? |
| 02:33.31 | tenagra | I need to be able to submit and edit pdf files. Evince had a messed up font size. |
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| 02:34.08 | kujablak | hi, I've been trying to install debian on my laptop via the compressed live usb |
| 02:34.23 | kujablak | now I can't boot from the disk, nor the live usb |
| 02:35.01 | kujablak | basically I can't do anything on the computer, I get a "error unknown filesystem" |
| 02:35.13 | kujablak | and a grub rescue command |
| 02:35.22 | kujablak | can somebody help ? |
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| 02:36.02 | LtL | tenagra: you need non-free in deb-multimedia added, http://wiki.debian.org/PDF |
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| 02:36.11 | tenagra | LtL: I have that. |
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| 02:36.35 | WilsonKeppel | You did an update too? |
| 02:36.39 | tenagra | I did. |
| 02:36.46 | jude0 | So I just built a custom kernel. I have a usb wireless adapter and it shows up at "wlan1 no wireless extensions." in iwconfig. Any ideas on what might not be working? |
| 02:36.50 | tenagra | It recommends a few packages, but they are not acroread. |
| 02:36.59 | tenagra | They are things like the english dictionary for acroread or other random stuff. |
| 02:37.10 | ldnblk | is there anyone in channel that has configured compiz for debian squeeze ? |
| 02:38.11 | tenagra | http://pastebin.com/2BXUzYbT |
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| 02:39.00 | LtL | tenagra: just so you know deb-multimedia isn't supported by debian, that said i don't know what happened to acroread. |
| 02:39.31 | tenagra | LtL: Yeah, I know. Do you have deb-multimedia in your sources.list? |
| 02:40.11 | LtL | tenagra: apt-get install acroread-l10n-en acroread-dictionary-en acroread-data |
| 02:40.23 | LtL | tenagra: not on this box, no i don't. |
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| 02:42.22 | nkuttler | ldnblk: ask your real question |
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| 02:43.01 | tenagra | LtL: Following that command, I get an entry in one of my menus for adobe reader. Clicking on it I get "Failed to execute child process "acroread" (No such file or directory)". Any suggestions? |
| 02:43.51 | LtL | tenagra: apt-cache clean and try again.. |
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| 02:45.10 | tenagra | LtL: That didn't work. Is there really no free program with the same functionality as Adobe Reader? :P |
| 02:45.24 | tenagra | I would have imagined that more people used pdf's. Or at least forms that others gave them in the form of pdf. |
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| 02:45.58 | nkuttler | tenagra: you don't have to use adobe software to use pdfs |
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| 02:46.08 | wilmaaaah | tenagra: acroread doesn't seem to be in the repo anymore, use the ftp server and install the binary |
| 02:46.10 | LtL | tenagra: just the ones in that wiki, you might have broken packages now. try apt-get -f install |
| 02:46.25 | tenagra | nkuttler: I know that. However, I am having trouble finding software that is as functional as Adobe Reader. |
| 02:46.37 | ldnblk | :nkuttler I have found a website that gives instruction on setting up compiz. it indicates a a config file called xorg.conf, I cannot seem to locate that file, is it possible to generate that file ? |
| 02:47.13 | wilmaaaah | tenagra: http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/ |
| 02:47.15 | LtL | ldnblk: yes |
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| 02:48.02 | nkuttler | ldnblk: well, you don't necessarily have to modify your xorg.conf to run compiz |
| 02:48.13 | nkuttler | it's just a glorified wm |
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| 02:50.15 | ldnblk | :nkuttler I am aware of what it is as I used it many years ago on opensuse, then I had to make a change in the xorg.conf file. |
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| 02:50.55 | ldnblk | :ltl do you know how to generate the xorg.conf file ? |
| 02:51.20 | nkuttler | ldnblk: you don't need one. welcome to the 2010s |
| 02:51.24 | Arrowmaster | xorg.conf isnt needed anymore |
| 02:51.36 | LtL | ldnblk: X -configure iirc |
| 02:51.47 | gartt | I didn't even know that. Then again, I haven't upgraded linux in over 6 years... |
| 02:52.00 | Derpadong | Lol |
| 02:52.02 | gartt | -conf or -configure, yeah |
| 02:52.11 | ldnblk | :ltl thanks |
| 02:52.17 | Arrowmaster | doesnt that just get you a template config? |
| 02:52.35 | LtL | ldnblk: like nkuttler and Arrowmaster said, its really not needed in your case. |
| 02:52.50 | LtL | Arrowmaster: yes just a template |
| 02:53.09 | Arrowmaster | so if you dont know what to put in it, you are much better off not having one |
| 02:53.18 | LtL | true that |
| 02:54.18 | ldnblk | :ltl so is it a case of ticking the boxes in the settings manager and then it just works ? |
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| 02:54.59 | LtL | ldnblk: i havent played with compiz in years, so i would be googling |
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| 02:57.27 | ldnblk | :nkuttler do you know how to configure compiz ? or know of a website that gives instruction without havining to configure xorg.conf ? |
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| 02:58.37 | LtL | ldnblk: http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz |
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| 02:59.25 | Arrowmaster | its not really worth it to bother with compiz, even the developer of it thinks the cube and few other effects that are unique to it should just be ported to other compositing managers |
| 02:59.29 | nkuttler | ldnblk: i'm still not sure why you even think that you have to "configure" compiz |
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| 03:01.35 | man_in_shack | waves |
| 03:03.14 | man_in_shack | how would i go about installing the i386 version of a package on an amd64 system? |
| 03:03.30 | man_in_shack | i thought it was something like aptitude install powermanga:i386 |
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| 03:03.51 | man_in_shack | but i get "Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "powermanga:i386"" |
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| 03:03.59 | abrotman | man_in_shack: squeeze? wheezy? |
| 03:04.02 | man_in_shack | unstable |
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| 03:04.18 | man_in_shack | do i need to do something to get apt to know about i386? |
| 03:04.19 | abrotman | man_in_shack: you have to add the architecture first |
| 03:04.44 | abrotman | dpkg: tell man_in_shack about multiarch howto |
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| 03:05.51 | man_in_shack | well i've got [arch=amd64,i386] in my sources.list |
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| 03:07.31 | man_in_shack | "Hit http://mymirror unstable/main i386 Packages" |
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| 03:08.35 | man_in_shack | still getting the same error :( |
| 03:09.00 | abrotman | it doesn't exist anymore |
| 03:09.06 | abrotman | judd: versions powermanga |
| 03:09.07 | judd | Package: powermanga on i386 -- lenny: 0.90-dfsg-1; sid: 0.90-dfsg-2; squeeze: 0.90-dfsg-2; wheezy: 0.90-dfsg-2 |
| 03:09.15 | man_in_shack | bah |
| 03:09.23 | abrotman | man_in_shack: if you look, only in debports |
| 03:09.49 | man_in_shack | http://packages.debian.org/sid/powermanga << still listed here though :( |
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| 03:10.15 | abrotman | man_in_shack: for which architectures? |
| 03:10.35 | abrotman | http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/powermanga/powermanga_0.90-dfsg-2_i386.deb |
| 03:10.37 | man_in_shack | amd64, i386 among others |
| 03:10.38 | abrotman | try that |
| 03:10.47 | man_in_shack | would rather go through apt |
| 03:10.48 | man_in_shack | but thanks |
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| 03:10.52 | abrotman | your call |
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| 03:12.32 | man_in_shack | now, how do i add debports? :) |
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| 03:13.37 | abrotman | dunno, /msg dpkg debports .. maybe? |
| 03:13.39 | abrotman | good luck |
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| 03:24.32 | man_in_shack | http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian/dists/unstable/ << i386 and amd64 are not on debports |
| 03:24.40 | man_in_shack | even though the packages page says they are |
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| 03:41.59 | Third3ye | Does the netinstall version of Debian have wlan tools? |
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| 03:50.27 | zykotick9 | Third3ye: i used the beta4 installer to install over wpa2 wireless (if that's what you mean) |
| 03:51.37 | Third3ye | zykotick9: Nice :) Does it come with wlan drivers, f.ex intel wireless drivers |
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| 03:52.53 | zykotick9 | Third3ye: i have no clue... good luck. fyi, squeeze doesn't support wpa2 - only wep |
| 03:53.16 | Third3ye | Say what?! |
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| 03:54.19 | phogg | Third3ye: in netinst |
| 03:54.31 | Third3ye | Ah.. |
| 03:54.45 | phogg | Third3ye: wpa2 netinst won't work, it's pretty stupid like that. You'd need a special disc |
| 03:54.58 | zykotick9 | Third3ye: sorry, if i was unclear. phogg thanks ;) |
| 03:55.19 | Third3ye | But if I download a full install CD then it supports wpa2? |
| 03:55.21 | phogg | Third3ye: seems like it's fixed for wheezy though |
| 03:55.34 | Third3ye | Stupid question... ofc |
| 03:55.40 | phogg | Third3ye: doesn't matter, whole disc does not require the net to fetch packages |
| 03:55.41 | phogg | yeah |
| 03:56.09 | Third3ye | phogg: there is no alternativ netinstall on the disc? Cause I'm guessing there's a lot of packages to update... |
| 03:56.19 | phogg | is writing this from a intel wireless laptop installed from squeeze netinst |
| 03:56.27 | phogg | but I cheated and plugged in a wire |
| 03:56.51 | phogg | Third3ye: you only need enough to get the net up, then you can get the rest wirelessly |
| 03:57.11 | Third3ye | Well aaaallrighty then :) |
| 03:57.55 | phogg | Third3ye: there might be an alternative, hang on... grepping my logs for the conversation I think I remember having |
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| 04:00.05 | psycode | which union file system is the deboan way ? |
| 04:00.07 | phogg | Third3ye: sorry, can't find it. I think someone mentioned to me an unofficial netinst disc which included wpa2 support... but I can't find it |
| 04:00.43 | Third3ye | nvm :P the dvd install is done in 18min |
| 04:00.59 | Third3ye | Have you gotten wayland to run? |
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| 04:02.20 | phogg | Third3ye: not tried it yet |
| 04:02.50 | phogg | this is my serious-work laptop, so I've not been messing with it |
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| 04:04.40 | Third3ye | As apposed to your silly-work laptop, which has a kernel module which that once in a while produces a blue screen which tells you that you have no memory? |
| 04:07.03 | Third3ye | A lot of which... |
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| 04:08.37 | phogg | Third3ye: as opposed to boxes that I can break and not need back right away |
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| 04:13.37 | arch | hi |
| 04:13.44 | arch | hi |
| 04:15.23 | LtL | hi arch |
| 04:15.27 | arch | hi |
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| 04:15.34 | arch | ls |
| 04:15.53 | arch | a |
| 04:16.01 | Third3ye | Look out... |
| 04:16.01 | psycode | hi arch, LtL |
| 04:16.06 | arch | hi psycode |
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| 04:16.08 | Third3ye | It's a interloper from another distro |
| 04:16.39 | KsM | arch: aren't you arch from Rizon |
| 04:16.40 | arch | hi Third3ye |
| 04:16.45 | arch | no |
| 04:16.46 | Third3ye | Either that or he's horribly ruined his keyboard config |
| 04:16.55 | arch | I'm noahsarch from Rizon |
| 04:17.05 | KsM | same person |
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| 04:17.36 | arch | hi KeatonT |
| 04:17.39 | KeatonT | hi |
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| 04:17.49 | arch | hi fire_and_flame |
| 04:18.10 | Third3ye | Ah Rizon... the home of 4chan |
| 04:18.14 | oconnore | omg, arch, we went to highschool together. |
| 04:18.16 | oconnore | hi |
| 04:18.22 | arch | Hi oconnore |
| 04:18.23 | KeatonT | o_O |
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| 04:18.39 | arch | hi atomfire |
| 04:19.11 | arch | bye a111 |
| 04:19.13 | arch | bye mmikedoma |
| 04:19.34 | arch | bye beast |
| 04:21.29 | Third3ye | Bye sky, bye sea, bye mental asylum confines *hangs self* |
| 04:21.57 | arch | hi Third3ye |
| 04:23.44 | psycode | this is only rhetoric |
| 04:24.24 | arch | bye indexx |
| 04:24.28 | arch | bye roboman2444 |
| 04:25.13 | Third3ye | I didn't know people still used mIRC scripts... |
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| 04:25.31 | poprocks | I didn't know people still used mIRC. |
| 04:25.41 | arch | hi KiSM |
| 04:25.43 | KsM | I didn't know people. |
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| 04:26.25 | poprocks | I didn't know. |
| 04:26.31 | arch | hi megha |
| 04:26.33 | arch | hi chipb |
| 04:26.37 | arch | hi poprocks |
| 04:26.47 | megha | hi arch :) |
| 04:26.51 | arch | hi megha |
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| 04:27.58 | TomCruise | hi xiami |
| 04:28.03 | TomCruise | hi phipballew |
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| 04:28.24 | TomCruise | hi toetag |
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| 04:29.17 | hasdf | noch wer da? |
| 04:29.47 | poprocks | foo |
| 04:30.38 | JohnTravolta | Hi, TomCruise |
| 04:30.44 | JohnTravolta | starts making out with TomCruise |
| 04:30.52 | KsM | oh no |
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| 04:32.45 | TomCruise | hi mmikeDoma |
| 04:32.53 | JohnTravolta | Oh you cheat! |
| 04:32.55 | JohnTravolta | slaps TomCruise |
| 04:33.32 | TomCruise | tom cruise is the best |
| 04:33.42 | hasdf | tom cruise = scientology |
| 04:33.44 | TomCruise | he's also qt |
| 04:34.40 | TomCruise | tomcruise = my sXE Qt 3.14 bf |
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| 04:36.38 | Third3ye | hasdf: or maybe... scientology = Tom Cruise... aaahhhh... |
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| 04:37.15 | Third3ye | "Developed in an undergound lab at the scientological institute Tom Cruise was designed to infiltrate Hollywood from the inside and corrupt other actors" |
| 04:37.27 | hasdf | wayne; scientology = shit --> tom cuise = shit |
| 04:37.45 | TomCruise | who cares if tom cruise likes scientology |
| 04:38.01 | hasdf | who cares if adolf hitler was in nsdap? |
| 04:38.05 | TomCruise | all that matters is that he's ; sexy, cute, talented, smart, strong, beautiful |
| 04:38.06 | KsM | !offtopic |
| 04:38.07 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 04:38.23 | KsM | *chaos* |
| 04:39.08 | hasdf | srsly TomCruise it's like saying yeah microsoft is dumb but i like windows |
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| 04:39.35 | Third3ye | Do you think scientologists use Debian? |
| 04:39.41 | Third3ye | :P |
| 04:39.57 | hasdf | do you think scientologists are intellegent enought to boot up a pc? |
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| 04:42.50 | TomCruise | yes |
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| 04:43.12 | Third3ye | hasdf: Why, yes... yes, you silly man... there's probably some form of protestant scientologist which is writing a linux driver for a usb thetan meter as we speak... |
| 04:44.47 | hasdf | ganh |
| 04:45.01 | hasdf | for further arguments of mine |
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| 04:45.12 | hasdf | look at nietzsche |
| 04:45.14 | Third3ye | "All the while lord Xenu is getting closer to earth and we're supposed to pay our way to happyness? No... no, I won't have it." |
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| 04:46.04 | Hydroxide | all of you - please move the criticisms of scientology somewhere else. feel whatever you want about scientology, but #debian isn't the place for discussing that. |
| 04:46.18 | Hydroxide | or most other topics. |
| 04:46.31 | hasdf | gnah |
| 04:46.35 | hasdf | you*re right |
| 04:46.36 | hasdf | gn8 |
| 04:46.50 | neon__ | why does youtube look bumpy? Its fully downloaded, I have c2d over 2 Ghz and Nvidia graphics card |
| 04:47.24 | Third3ye | ... |
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| 04:47.56 | TomCruise | a |
| 04:48.51 | TomCruise | a |
| 04:48.52 | neon__ | cpu is barely used |
| 04:48.54 | TomCruise | a |
| 04:50.52 | Third3ye | neon__: what do you mean "bumpy"? can you take a succesfull screenshot? |
| 04:51.14 | Third3ye | Like one that doesn't have a black square where the video should be, i.e overlay |
| 04:51.25 | TomCruise | a |
| 04:51.30 | TomCruise | hmm |
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| 04:53.04 | neon__ | Third3ye, a screenshot won't show the bumpyness. In bumpy I mean that the image freeze and then resumes skipping parts so movement looks not continuous. |
| 04:53.21 | Third3ye | Ah... |
| 04:53.33 | Third3ye | using flash or html5 video? |
| 04:53.43 | neon__ | html5 i think |
| 04:53.51 | Third3ye | Which browser? |
| 04:53.52 | neon__ | is html5 not flash? |
| 04:54.00 | neon__ | iceweasel wheezy |
| 04:54.12 | Third3ye | No, html5 uses either h.264 or webm video |
| 04:54.32 | Third3ye | Sorry to say I have no experience with the iceweasel build of mozilla... |
| 04:54.42 | Third3ye | Try about:plugins, see what video plugins you have there... |
| 04:54.47 | Third3ye | about : plugins |
| 04:55.00 | Third3ye | It could be attributed to a third party plugin like mplayer or something |
| 04:55.01 | sney | iceweasel is not a separate build, it's just a rebrand. |
| 04:55.03 | neon__ | it is html5, I see it when pressing right button "about html5" |
| 04:55.05 | sney | ,v iceweasel |
| 04:55.07 | judd | Package: iceweasel on i386 -- lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; lenny-backports: 3.5.16-11~bpo50+1; squeeze-proposed-updates: 3.5.16-16; squeeze: 3.5.16-17; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-17; squeeze-proposed-updates: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-backports: 10.0.6esr-1~bpo60+1; squeeze-backports: 10.0.11esr-1~bpo60+1; sid: 10.0.11esr-1; wheezy: 10.0.11esr-1; experimental: |
| 04:55.08 | judd | 17.0.1-2 |
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| 04:55.54 | Third3ye | I think I have to install Debian first before I can help... right now I gotta burn windows as a backup |
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| 04:56.06 | neon__ | Third3ye, so you say that the video there is presented by mplayer or something like taht? |
| 04:56.20 | sney | it isn't. it's probably just nouveau. |
| 04:56.34 | TomCruise | a |
| 04:56.37 | Third3ye | Ah yes... nouveau |
| 04:56.43 | Third3ye | Install the official driver if possible |
| 04:56.46 | neon__ | huh? |
| 04:56.59 | TomCruise | debian sux |
| 04:57.05 | sney | !ops TomCruise |
| 04:57.06 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: sney complains about: TomCruise |
| 04:57.10 | TomCruise | im sorry |
| 04:57.25 | Third3ye | neon__: nouveau is the open source version of the nvidia driver |
| 04:57.36 | peterS | TomCruise: do you have questions about Debian, then? |
| 04:57.43 | TomCruise | no |
| 04:57.50 | peterS | then what are you doing here? |
| 04:57.51 | Third3ye | neon__: so it might be better for you to acquire the proprietary driver for linux |
| 04:57.52 | neon__ | I installed the closed source from the repository of debian |
| 04:57.57 | Third3ye | hmm... |
| 04:58.42 | nkuttler | peterS: try a /lastlog |
| 04:59.18 | TomCruise | ╾──╼ |
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| 05:00.18 | peterS | nkuttler: I looked earlier and saw mostly a semi-literate set of grunts. I wondered if there was more than that. |
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| 05:00.43 | poprocks | TomCruise: I loved you in Cocktail |
| 05:01.01 | TomCruise | poprocks; I loved you in my mouth |
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| 05:01.22 | IdleOne | peterS: they were trolling yesterday with the nick arch |
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| 05:01.39 | poprocks | TomCruise: I knew you swung that way. |
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| 05:02.16 | peterS | IdleOne: looks less like trolling to me (so far) and more like "I'm bored and this channel seems to have lots more people to randomly annoy than my usual hangouts like #twilight" |
| 05:02.36 | Third3ye | Alright, on my mark.. DDoS TomCruise... |
| 05:02.37 | IdleOne | could be that too |
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| 05:02.58 | peterS | in other words, doesn't seem particularly malicious, just bored. But either way, why not +q.. |
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| 05:09.47 | neon__ | how do I know which plugin play that html5 video? |
| 05:10.15 | somiaj | neon__: you don't need a plugin, what version of iceweasel do you have? |
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| 05:10.43 | somiaj | ,v iceweasel |
| 05:10.44 | judd | Package: iceweasel on i386 -- lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; lenny-backports: 3.5.16-11~bpo50+1; squeeze-proposed-updates: 3.5.16-16; squeeze: 3.5.16-17; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-17; squeeze-proposed-updates: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-backports: 10.0.6esr-1~bpo60+1; squeeze-backports: 10.0.11esr-1~bpo60+1; sid: 10.0.11esr-1; wheezy: 10.0.11esr-1; experimental: |
| 05:10.45 | judd | 17.0.1-2 |
| 05:11.00 | neon__ | 10.0.11 |
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| 05:11.05 | somiaj | neon__: the one in wheezy should play html5 videos |
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| 05:11.23 | neon__ | somiaj, it plays but not good |
| 05:11.27 | somiaj | you have an example video you are hacing trouble with? |
| 05:11.44 | neon__ | somiaj, https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WddCKO3KCyY |
| 05:14.06 | somiaj | neon__: what video driver are you using? That video seems to be slightly laggy in the video in flash for me here as well. |
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| 05:14.56 | neon__ | somiaj, I use the nvidia drivers |
| 05:15.49 | somiaj | neon__: have you tried other html5 videos? |
| 05:16.08 | neon__ | somiaj, yes, they all look that way iirc |
| 05:16.19 | neon__ | somiaj, that's why I query |
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| 05:19.53 | boudiccas | argh, i've just rebooted and now i've got no sound, everything is connected, and |
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| 05:19.59 | boudiccas | wrong |
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| 05:22.33 | boudiccas | aarggh, i've just rebooted and lost sound to mpd. its configured to use alsa and my soundcard which is working, i'm listening to xmms2 on it atm through it, i'm using ncmpcpp as client to mpd and ncmpcpp shows its configured to use alsa, but still no sound. any ideas please folks? |
| 05:23.14 | somiaj | boudiccas: do you have a custom $HOME/.asoundrc -- almost wonder if dmix is not working an you cant have two applications using the sound card at the same time |
| 05:23.33 | Third3ye | neon__: run this command: glxinfo | grep direct |
| 05:24.22 | neon__ | direct rendering: Yes |
| 05:24.28 | neon__ | GL_EXT_Cg_shader, GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test, GL_EXT_direct_state_access, |
| 05:24.29 | Third3ye | hmm... |
| 05:24.38 | boudiccas | somiaj: no, no .asoundrc at all, this is in wheezy btw |
| 05:25.57 | somiaj | boudiccas: hmm, dmix should be working. Can you stop xmms2 then get it to work? |
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| 05:27.52 | boudiccas | somiaj: i havent got dmix installed and neither is it available in the wheezy repos, not according to 'apt-cache' if i enter 'dmix' into a console it comes bac with "command not recognised" |
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| 05:28.16 | fnmueller | boudiccas: .asoundrc should contain sth like the following:http://pbot.rmdir.de/d45ec0dd006e3c496c8f97155729c7fd , still this technically is the wrong # |
| 05:28.58 | somiaj | boudiccas: dmix is part of alsa, it is what alsa uses for software mixing. |
| 05:29.04 | boudiccas | fnmueller: i dont have any .asoundrc at all |
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| 05:29.22 | somiaj | the default alsa in debian should have dmix enabled. Though this can be overriden by a custom .asoundrc why I asked |
| 05:29.42 | fnmueller | well, like I told you ..., but stick to somiaj , he has got a clue :- |
| 05:29.47 | somiaj | but I would first debug and see if it is relaly the case that you don't have dmix working or two things can't access the sound card at the same time. |
| 05:29.53 | fnmueller | ) |
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| 05:32.29 | boudiccas | somiaj: okay, xmms2 closed down, service mpd restarted, but still no sound from it |
| 05:33.17 | somiaj | check the mpd logs then, maybe a configuration change happened there |
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| 05:35.56 | neon__ | Third3ye, I see my browser support video tag and webm but doesn't support h.264 |
| 05:36.04 | boudiccas | somiaj: you were right, Jan 06 04:46 : output: Failed to open "My ALSA Device" [alsa]: Failed to open ALSA device "C-MEDIA CM18738": No such file or directory. so how do i get it to see the c-media device please? |
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| 05:37.29 | Third3ye | neon__: have you perhaps tried another browser, like firefox stable -- to see if the problem can be reproduced in other browsers using different or altered video codecs? |
| 05:37.56 | boudiccas | somiaj: currently mpd has this in its conf 'device"hw:0,0"' which worked yesterday and i just restored from backup with it |
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| 05:38.01 | neon__ | Third3ye, no I just used iceweasel |
| 05:38.54 | kyconquers | I have recently installed the KDE desktop environment. I have two monitors hooked up, but for some reason every time I try to set the second monitor to anything other then a clone, it reverts back as soon as I press the apply button. |
| 05:39.21 | kyconquers | Is there a log or test that I can run to see why this is happening? |
| 05:40.07 | somiaj | boudiccas: cat /proc/asound/cards -- do you maybe have another soundcard and their order changed? |
| 05:40.33 | boudiccas | somiaj: yes, i have the onboard via thingie, it may have changed when i rebooted |
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| 05:42.44 | boudiccas | somiaj: the onboard via is prefixed with '0' and the card 'C-Media CMI8738' is prefixed with '1' so which is now the default please? i dont understand |
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| 05:44.08 | Third3ye | neon__: Try another browser, just to exclude that it's iceweasel that's exclusively having a problem with rendering video... |
| 05:44.09 | somiaj | the onboard is hw:0,0 and the c-media is hw:1,09 |
| 05:44.12 | somiaj | hw:1,0 |
| 05:44.44 | neon__ | Third3ye, like epiphanY? |
| 05:46.01 | boudiccas | somiaj: brilliant, thanks , thats sorted it. now got glorious sound back in mpd again. thank you very much :) |
| 05:46.29 | Third3ye | neon__: perhaps... or try chrome. It has builtin html5 video codecs. Try several, just to conclude that it is a problem with the system and not individual software |
| 05:46.34 | somiaj | boudiccas: rember this next time you boot, or look into how to make it pesistant, afiak it may not be easy |
| 05:47.14 | neon__ | Third3ye, ok |
| 05:47.40 | boudiccas | somiaj: k, thanks, i've made notes of it , commands, etc for future reference |
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| 05:49.16 | somiaj | boudiccas: one simple way is if you are not using the other sound card, blacklist the module for it |
| 05:52.16 | boudiccas | somiaj: how would i do that please? i've never blacklisted nayhting before |
| 05:52.21 | boudiccas | anything |
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| 05:53.09 | jagginess | racist |
| 05:53.24 | somiaj | boudiccas: first figure out what module controls what card, you need the module name |
| 05:53.32 | somiaj | boudiccas: use dmesg and/or lsmod to figure that out |
| 05:54.21 | Third3ye | jagginess: Yes...! You should issue a complaint to the maintainers of the kernel... so they can send you a text file with an ASCII image of a hand with an extended middlefinger |
| 05:55.11 | jagginess | Third3ye, boudiccas is having the problem noob |
| 05:55.58 | jagginess | when testing alsa, always use the alsa commands (aplay -L<enter> for eg) |
| 05:56.51 | Third3ye | jagginess: then issue it to the maintainers of alsa -- but you will most probably get the same responce, ass |
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| 06:08.48 | HardDisk_WP | using sed -i 's/host/machine/' I tried to replace "host" with "machine" in a source-file |
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| 06:09.21 | HardDisk_WP | while it did replace everything where "host" was followed by a space, it did not touch "host_id" and similar |
| 06:09.21 | HardDisk_WP | why? |
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| 06:36.20 | sebas-89 | Hi |
| 06:36.27 | kyconquers | Hi |
| 06:36.30 | sebas-89 | Who is using Wheezy? |
| 06:36.37 | kyconquers | I am. |
| 06:36.46 | sebas-89 | is stable? |
| 06:37.34 | kyconquers | I think it will be the stable in a few months. |
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| 06:37.44 | XRS1 | unetbootin seems to hate it |
| 06:37.47 | sebas-89 | oh so work good with you |
| 06:37.56 | sebas-89 | cool |
| 06:38.12 | kyconquers | right now I have a problem with multiple monitors with it. |
| 06:39.21 | kyconquers | it detects that I have a second monitor, but it won't allow me to set it to anything other then a clone. |
| 06:39.37 | DrakkenWarr | have you installed arandr kyconquers? |
| 06:39.47 | DrakkenWarr | it's an pretty nice front end for xrandr |
| 06:40.10 | kyconquers | I have not. I will check it out. |
| 06:40.20 | kyconquers | thanks DrakkenWarr |
| 06:40.34 | DrakkenWarr | I would, I have used it for awhile now. The only issue I have is with configs saving after reboot |
| 06:40.50 | DrakkenWarr | no worries kyconquers. Lemme know how it goes for ya |
| 06:40.53 | sebas-89 | I'm not why when I turn the Debian on this is slowly |
| 06:40.55 | sebas-89 | any idea? |
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| 06:41.23 | DrakkenWarr | are you talking about using the live cd sebas-89? |
| 06:41.34 | sebas-89 | no, Debian 6 installed. |
| 06:41.43 | sebas-89 | with compiz |
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| 06:42.31 | somiaj | sebas-89: two things. first wheezy won't be stable for a few more months. and compiz will not be in wheezy |
| 06:42.45 | brandon- | has anyone here setup and used the grsecurity kernel patch package with Debian? |
| 06:42.51 | DrakkenWarr | thanks somiaj, you beat me too it |
| 06:42.55 | somiaj | so since wheezy is not stable it has no security updates (not the biggest issue for a desktop system, but good to know) |
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| 06:43.55 | cesurasean | hey guys. when i add to /etc/resolv.conf, and reboot, my config is overwritten with this; Generated by dhcpcd for interface eth0 |
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| 06:44.00 | cesurasean | how do i get the config to stick? |
| 06:44.25 | somiaj | cesurasean: you can configure what dhcpd does in its config files, dhclient I belive |
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| 06:44.30 | brandon- | cesurasean, is there perhaps some option to dhcpcd to not over-write the resolv ? |
| 06:44.41 | cesurasean | where is that config file at? |
| 06:44.45 | somiaj | cesurasean: or you can install some package like reslvconf (or openresolv) and let it handel the resolv.conf file |
| 06:44.51 | brandon- | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:44.55 | brandon- | i dont ahve it installed |
| 06:44.56 | somiaj | cesurasean: /etc/dhclient.... |
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| 06:45.24 | somiaj | oh if you arne't using dhclient (default dhcp on debian) modify the config of the correct program |
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| 06:46.12 | cesurasean | i dont see those files |
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| 06:46.54 | sebas-89 | The init of Debian 6 is very slow |
| 06:46.57 | kyconquers | DrakkenWarr, I am trying to make a new configuration and it says it's not wide enough for it. |
| 06:46.58 | sebas-89 | any idea? |
| 06:47.15 | somiaj | sebas-89: what part is slow? It goes just fine for me here. |
| 06:47.34 | somiaj | sebas-89: running off a livecd (usb) can be slow to load, or is this an install? |
| 06:47.39 | DrakkenWarr | kyconquers, you should simply drag your displays to how they are on your desk |
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| 06:47.57 | DrakkenWarr | as far as a custom XxY? I would not know |
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| 06:48.17 | sebas-89 | somiaj: It's installed, in the init, before this load compiz and the panel of gnome. |
| 06:48.35 | kyconquers | DrakkenWarr, I am trying but there is a grey box that I can not drag the out of for some reason. |
| 06:48.36 | sebas-89 | around 20 seconds |
| 06:48.45 | kyconquers | *them |
| 06:48.53 | mosno | somiaj, how can you say that no security updates isn't a big issue for a desktop? |
| 06:48.55 | DrakkenWarr | drag the top box down, then drag the other one over |
| 06:48.56 | somiaj | sebas-89: what kinda of computer do you have? It could be xorg/gnome/compiz take a bit to load. |
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| 06:49.17 | DrakkenWarr | once you have your secondary where you want it, then place the primary back |
| 06:49.26 | DrakkenWarr | seemed to be the easiest way for me at least |
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| 06:49.55 | sebas-89 | somiaj: Intel i3, RAM: 4GB , it's a PC. |
| 06:50.03 | cesurasean | hello. how do i find dhclient.conf? |
| 06:50.17 | sebas-89 | may be i could taste init without compiz |
| 06:50.25 | sebas-89 | *test |
| 06:50.34 | kyconquers | DrakkenWarr, ? it still has this rectangle that is only slightly bigger then the monitors and I can move the monitors further. |
| 06:50.43 | somiaj | sebas-89: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 06:51.01 | sebas-89 | somiaj: What? |
| 06:51.15 | DrakkenWarr | how many monitors are you dealing with? And are they all different resolutions? |
| 06:51.19 | kyconquers | they are horisontal side by side, but the screen layout application won't let me place them that way. |
| 06:51.30 | somiaj | sebas-89: echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager (make sure you pay attention to what is in that file to start (probably gdm)) |
| 06:51.39 | kyconquers | two and I have them set as the same for now. |
| 06:51.47 | brandon- | cesurasean, its probiably in / |
| 06:51.53 | somiaj | sebas-89: that was a factoid, then reboot. That will make it so you boot into a console (no graphical stuff). If that is fast it says the slow part is all about loading your graphical enviorment |
| 06:51.57 | brandon- | cesurasean, you can try "locate dhclient.conf", too, or "find / -name dhclient.conf" |
| 06:52.04 | somiaj | sebas-89: if that is still slow it could be another one of your services causing problems. |
| 06:52.06 | brandon- | er its probably in /etc i mean |
| 06:52.14 | DrakkenWarr | hmm, can you take a scrot and post it? |
| 06:52.24 | cesurasean | brandon, it's not to be found. |
| 06:52.30 | sebas-89 | somiaj: thanks, i'll taste that |
| 06:52.35 | sebas-89 | test |
| 06:52.56 | cesurasean | is it named dhcpcd? |
| 06:53.12 | cesurasean | dhclient doesnt exist. |
| 06:53.14 | kyconquers | DrakkenWarr, I got them to work by turning the resolutions down to about 800x600 each. |
| 06:53.21 | brandon- | cesurasean, are you running dhclient or dhcpcd? |
| 06:53.26 | brandon- | ps aux | egrep '(dhcpcd|dhclient)' |
| 06:53.33 | kyconquers | how would I post it? imgur? |
| 06:53.55 | DrakkenWarr | sure that would work, I might not be able to help. But if I can see it I might |
| 06:53.57 | cesurasean | dhcpcd |
| 06:54.11 | brandon- | cesurasean, so you need the dhcpcd file |
| 06:54.13 | brandon- | config file* |
| 06:54.28 | brandon- | cesurasean, type locate dhcpcd.conf |
| 06:54.31 | brandon- | thats the config for dhcpcd |
| 06:54.31 | kyconquers | do you know how to change the size of the "virtual screen"? |
| 06:54.41 | sebas-89 | somiaj: my default-display-manager file has this: /usr/sbin/gdm3 |
| 06:54.44 | cesurasean | that file is blank |
| 06:54.47 | brandon- | cesurasean, ok |
| 06:54.48 | brandon- | well |
| 06:54.55 | brandon- | in the file, add this: nohook resolv.conf |
| 06:55.03 | brandon- | that should stop it from molesting your resolv.conf file |
| 06:55.15 | brandon- | and yes, it molests it. |
| 06:55.18 | DrakkenWarr | honestly? No I do not kyconquers. The default have worked for me with my setup |
| 06:55.23 | DrakkenWarr | that as far as I have gone into arandr |
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| 06:55.35 | DrakkenWarr | but I thought if I saw a scrot something might come to mind |
| 06:55.42 | cesurasean | brandon, do i need to add /etc/ to that? |
| 06:55.46 | cesurasean | or just write resolv.conf? |
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| 06:56.24 | somiaj | sebas-89: my suggestion was change that to false, see if it boots faster then you can isolate where the slowness is. |
| 06:56.30 | somiaj | sebas-89: then change it back when you are done |
| 06:57.01 | brandon- | cesurasean, what |
| 06:57.02 | brandon- | no |
| 06:57.06 | sebas-89 | somiak: ok buddy, I'll do, and i'll reboot. |
| 06:57.07 | brandon- | cesurasean, like i said, nohook resolv.conf |
| 06:57.14 | brandon- | that tells it to not run the resolv.conf over-write script |
| 06:57.19 | brandon- | you want to put it in your dhcpcd.conf |
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| 06:58.13 | kyconquers | imgur.com/CcVcf |
| 06:58.37 | cesurasean | brandon, it was overwritten again. |
| 06:58.48 | cesurasean | that did not work. |
| 06:59.20 | brandon- | did you restart dhcpcd? |
| 06:59.45 | brandon- | also, what's the path of the dhcpcd.conf file you edited? |
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| 07:02.03 | brandon- | cesurasean, ? |
| 07:02.15 | cesurasean | your solution does not work. |
| 07:02.26 | cesurasean | resolv was overwritten upon reboot. |
| 07:02.33 | brandon- | right |
| 07:02.34 | brandon- | asking again |
| 07:02.40 | brandon- | whats the file you edited |
| 07:02.41 | brandon- | (the config) |
| 07:02.44 | brandon- | whats the absolute path of it |
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| 07:04.41 | brandon- | ? |
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| 07:08.56 | cesurasean | brandon, i fixed it with chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf |
| 07:09.04 | brandon- | chattr +i ? |
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| 07:09.08 | brandon- | right |
| 07:09.08 | brandon- | oh |
| 07:09.09 | cesurasean | yep. |
| 07:09.09 | brandon- | immutable |
| 07:09.17 | brandon- | but, thats a hack.. the dhcpcd.conf config should work |
| 07:09.27 | brandon- | are you sure you wrote to the right path? you said your dhcpcd.conf was empty |
| 07:09.33 | brandon- | what was the path of the file you edited? |
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| 07:11.33 | sebas-89 | somiaj: doesn't start with false. |
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| 07:11.53 | sebas-89 | i'll test |
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| 07:13.12 | somiaj | sebas-89: of course gdm doesn't start, that is what you turned off. Is the slow part just loading for xorg and compiz? |
| 07:13.25 | somiaj | sebas-89: please do no msg me. (: |
| 07:13.35 | brandon- | cesurasean, ... |
| 07:13.47 | sebas-89 | somiaj: sory man, sure you're very busy |
| 07:13.49 | brandon- | im trying to figure out if you edited the right file or not, based on the path |
| 07:14.21 | somiaj | sebas-89: if you ask here, others can also help. (: |
| 07:14.52 | somiaj | sebas-89: but if your test shows it is just gdm + compiz that is slow to startup, maybe others know ways to speed it up |
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| 07:15.37 | sviz | roijergoij at like 1pm pst my box went into not accepting connections mode. on via console and every command takes like 2 minutes to run. and just for fun its booting into the gui |
| 07:16.26 | sviz | my load level is flat out 8.4 |
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| 07:17.12 | sebas-89 | somiaj: gdm3 was slow. |
| 07:17.27 | sebas-89 | i think is the service dial |
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| 07:17.51 | sebas-89 | is the daemon for my modem speedtouch330 |
| 07:17.54 | sebas-89 | internet |
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| 07:19.06 | sebas-89 | that service late, and is the last in load |
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| 07:24.50 | mikehaas763 | Hello. I'm trying to install from netinstall 64 into a virtualbox VM. I am getting a bad archive mirror for every mirror during the install. When I go to a different virtual terminal I can wget from public IP addresses. but not from domain names. It appears to be a DNS issue. Does anyone know how to fix this? |
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| 07:26.28 | mikehaas763 | or is there a way to set a dns server during the net install? |
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| 07:33.17 | jagginess | mikehaas763, too many x-unknown factors.. You really have to check you VM network settings, etc etc.. it is more of a "virtualbox" /networking troubleshooting than a linux/OS one.. |
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| 07:34.02 | mikehaas763 | Ok thank you. After some more looking around on the internet it may be a combined ubuntu 12.10 and virtualbox issue |
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| 07:34.15 | ws2k3 | hello i have build some php cli scrips but i wanne prevent that they are gonna send mail.. i didnt add any mail and sometimes they mail anyway |
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| 07:35.02 | shirish | I know that one can use GNOME Menu > System Settings > Displays to look up the valid resolution settings but want to do the same on the CLI. Is there any way ? |
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| 07:50.32 | AlexLikeRock | some one wana play killer intinc with me ? |
| 07:50.47 | AlexLikeRock | on snes9x |
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| 08:05.30 | XRS1 | i dont feel like loseing :P |
| 08:06.10 | AlexLikeRock | do you have snes9x-gtk ? |
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| 08:13.56 | boudiccas | AlexLikeRock: please take your off-topic chat to #debian-offtopic where its more appropriate |
| 08:14.04 | boudiccas | thank you |
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| 08:17.28 | AlexLikeRock | oh sorry i forget that , tanks boudiccas |
| 08:18.04 | boudiccas | AlexLikeRock: you're welcome :) |
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| 08:23.34 | Crumbz | anyone here familiar with qemu? |
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| 08:23.54 | boudiccas | !anyone |
| 08:23.54 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 08:42.18 | burhan|work | I run a few cron tasks as my normal user; and the result of these are sent to my mailbox, which I can read using mutt. Somehow, the subject of the email shows "failed" when a cron job doesn't exit successfully. How can have only these messages sent to another email? |
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| 09:00.35 | cfoch | what shoud I understand by "all" architectures? |
| 09:00.41 | cfoch | look at this package |
| 09:00.43 | cfoch | http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/all/wicd/download |
| 09:00.52 | cfoch | would it work in ARM? |
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| 09:05.09 | babilen | cfoch: It is not architecture specific. So yes, it would work on arm* |
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| 09:10.54 | shirish | uh, oh does anybody know how to quit from inside lua ? |
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| 09:23.20 | Crumbz | AlexLikeRock, it's okay. I got the answer I was looking for in ##linux. Thanks. :) |
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| 10:00.54 | adc | burhan|work: I do this by defining the MAILTO variable before the cron job defines |
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| 10:02.50 | lonnie | Hey, I run Ubuntu 12.10 and am thing of trying debian, but don't want to use an old browser. |
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| 10:02.58 | lonnie | Please advise. |
| 10:03.09 | gnarface | dpkg: tell lonnie about backports |
| 10:03.50 | lonnie | i just tryed the debian live CD and it had ice weasle which was about like firefox 3.0 |
| 10:03.59 | lonnie | firefox has 17 out now |
| 10:04.16 | lonnie | I've got to have a modern browser for CSS3 web development stuff. |
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| 10:04.27 | gnarface | lonnie: that's just firefox 3.15, they just changed the numbering scheme for marketing purposes. |
| 10:04.50 | lonnie | fair enough |
| 10:05.39 | lonnie | But still, I like the idea of using debian instead of ubuntu, but I've been spoon feed since I start using linux Ubunu 7.04 in 2007. |
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| 10:06.22 | lonnie | So, which version do you guys like to run, I've read about stable testing and unstable. |
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| 10:07.18 | gnarface | lonnie: did you even read the thing dpkg told you about backports? |
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| 10:07.32 | lonnie | I don't know what you mean |
| 10:07.36 | lonnie | dpkg ? |
| 10:07.36 | dpkg | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, lonnie |
| 10:07.45 | gnarface | yea |
| 10:07.57 | gnarface | check your irc client for a privage message from this bot^^ |
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| 10:08.02 | UltraMC | Hi, I have a new disc on my server. Why mounting it with 'mount -t ext4 /dev/sdc /home/discs/ssd' says mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc, missing codepage or helper program, or other error |
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| 10:08.23 | lonnie | ok, I see some green dots on the right side here in xchat |
| 10:09.48 | lonnie | ok, I read that. |
| 10:10.41 | gnarface | lonnie: you are meant to respond to the bot directly, with the text between the < > brackets and it will give you the related info |
| 10:10.53 | lonnie | I have package list of all the software I install on Ubuntu, I wonder if I'll be able to use all that same software in debian |
| 10:11.06 | Devastator | UltraMC maybe there's no ext4 support, or the drive is not ext4 |
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| 10:12.06 | lonnie | ok, I'll try that first |
| 10:12.07 | UltraMC | Devastator, chow to check drive's filesystem? |
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| 10:12.32 | Devastator | UltraMC fdisk -l I *think* |
| 10:12.33 | gnarface | lonnie: probably at least most of it if you can avoid getting fixated on the relatively immaterial upstream version numbers |
| 10:13.36 | lonnie | http://pastebin.com/fgGVNYnb |
| 10:13.43 | lonnie | That's the packages I run |
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| 10:14.14 | UltraMC | Devastator, http://pastie.org/5630490 |
| 10:14.34 | jelly-home | UltraMC: new disks have to be perpared to use. Did your admin partition and make a filesystem on it? |
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| 10:15.40 | Devastator | UltraMC is this drive brand new? did you format it? |
| 10:15.41 | lonnie | I'm need have a conversation with human being about debian. Anyone here have about 10 minutes? |
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| 10:16.11 | UltraMC | Devastator, its brand new SSD, never managed new discs on Linux |
| 10:16.18 | UltraMC | Devastator, gparted? :-) |
| 10:16.33 | lonnie | I need to tell you how I use ubuntu, and get advise on how to set up debian to run the same software. |
| 10:17.06 | Devastator | UltraMC like jelly-home said, you have to partition it or if you want to use it entirely as one partition, just use mkfs.ext3 for example |
| 10:17.07 | lonnie | I can install debian, I don't fear that. What I fear is being able to run certain software that I use in Ubuntu. |
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| 10:18.44 | lonnie | firefox 3.0 doesn't support much css 3 that's not immaterial |
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| 10:20.16 | Devastator | lonnie you want us to check these entire list of packages to see what will be able to run on Debian?! |
| 10:20.50 | lonnie | I read that you can run software that is later than whats on Ubuntu if you go with debian unstable. |
| 10:21.16 | UltraMC | Devastator, how to use mkfs.ext3 to make my SSD as one partition ready to use? |
| 10:21.28 | gnarface | lonnie: you should ask that bot about unstable |
| 10:21.38 | Devastator | UltraMC man mkfs.ext3 |
| 10:22.05 | lonnie | That bot doesn't do shit. |
| 10:22.12 | Devastator | lonnie testing, but specially unstable is only for users who knows how to fix things by themselves |
| 10:22.16 | lonnie | It is amazed by anything I type. |
| 10:22.21 | gnarface | lol |
| 10:22.22 | lonnie | about you robot assholes are |
| 10:22.32 | lonnie | about like you robots are |
| 10:22.48 | gnarface | lonnie: i think you're a fucking liar. i think that bot did *something* actually |
| 10:23.16 | lonnie | Man, want me to post my conversation with that bot? |
| 10:23.31 | gnarface | no |
| 10:23.32 | lonnie | lonnie> ok |
| 10:23.32 | lonnie | <dpkg> I give up, what is it? |
| 10:23.32 | lonnie | <lonnie> <install debian testing> |
| 10:23.32 | lonnie | <dpkg> i haven't a clue, lonnie |
| 10:23.32 | lonnie | <lonnie> <debian testing> |
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| 10:23.35 | gnarface | lol |
| 10:23.48 | Devastator | oh boy.. |
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| 10:24.21 | gnarface | well |
| 10:24.40 | gnarface | he probably thinks i kicked him |
| 10:24.57 | Devastator | or the bot, still |
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| 10:25.11 | Devastator | "you see? this bot is taking personal" |
| 10:25.19 | Devastator | lonnie you have to type without <> |
| 10:25.37 | lonnie | someone else told me to use <> |
| 10:25.52 | Devastator | no, only what's inside <> |
| 10:26.15 | boudiccas | Devastator: wrong, the flood kick is caused by their being more than 4 consecutive lines within a certain time span |
| 10:26.37 | Devastator | i know, i was joking |
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| 10:28.58 | lonnie | Has anyone here used Ubuntu and have suggestions about how to setup debian so that I can run basically the same packages (in terms of age)? Testing or Unstable? |
| 10:29.28 | Devastator | lonnie do you have any special reason to use bleeding edge packages? |
| 10:29.37 | KsM | Ubuntu, iirc, takes from debian unstable |
| 10:29.44 | Devastator | wrong |
| 10:29.54 | lonnie | For web development, I need a modern browser that support CSS3 |
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| 10:30.11 | Devastator | have you checked http://mozilla.debian.net? |
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| 10:30.28 | Devastator | also |
| 10:30.32 | Devastator | !backports |
| 10:30.32 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 10:30.41 | lonnie | When I tried the live cd (for debian), I viewed web pages in ice weasle and noticed that it doesn't support css3 |
| 10:30.54 | jelly-home | KsM: they take whatever's appropriate; the base was testing for the last two releases but they also have a set of packages they pull from unstable, a set of their own, and some they get from upstream |
| 10:31.08 | KsM | confusing |
| 10:32.49 | lonnie | So, it will be a rather manual process. I mean, I'd like there to be a setting that just tells debian to give me the latest firefox. I like to have the latest browser releases for sure. Also, I use freemind a lot. Is that available in the debian repositories? |
| 10:33.16 | Devastator | ,versions freemind |
| 10:33.17 | judd | Package: freemind on i386 -- lenny/contrib: 0.7.1-6; squeeze: 0.9.0~rc7+dfsg-1; sid: 0.9.0+dfsg-2; wheezy: 0.9.0+dfsg-2 |
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| 10:33.26 | Devastator | yes |
| 10:33.29 | gnarface | lonnie: you're still allowed to install the official firefox, its just not supported |
| 10:33.42 | Devastator | by this channel at least.. |
| 10:34.06 | lonnie | So, it won't be sudo apt-get install firefox ? It will be downloading a package from mozilla? |
| 10:34.09 | gnarface | yea firefox might support it themselves, but maybe not for sid... |
| 10:34.39 | gnarface | lonnie: at least the first time. sometimes the packages will add a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d so that later you can use apt-get for subsequent updates |
| 10:34.57 | lonnie | Ok, that's not too bad. |
| 10:35.10 | gnarface | lonnie: i don't know if the firefox one does, but it would make sense since the opera one does, and the google-talk iceweasel plugin does |
| 10:35.21 | maxxe | gnarface: firefox don't. |
| 10:35.28 | gnarface | a shame |
| 10:35.37 | gnarface | does it update internally without the package system? |
| 10:35.38 | maxxe | no |
| 10:35.45 | maxxe | yes. |
| 10:35.47 | KsM | yes |
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| 10:35.48 | gnarface | ah |
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| 10:36.17 | hugleo | Hi, I'm having a problem with sockects on my debian server. By example I'm using a web server than uses fsockopen command and I get the status that is not possible open the sockect. I've made some tests like: telnet externalip 587 and I've find out that if using the command like normal user is where I got the problem. Running like sudo telnet externalip 587 is working fairly good. Do you any help? |
| 10:36.25 | Devastator | I think if following mozilla factoid, you get updates automatically later, no? |
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| 10:38.06 | lonnie | Is Freemind in the debian repository, or would it be something I'd have to get from here: http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Download |
| 10:38.20 | Devastator | lonnie <judd> Package: freemind on i386 -- lenny/contrib: 0.7.1-6; squeeze: 0.9.0~rc7+dfsg-1; sid: 0.9.0+dfsg-2; wheezy: 0.9.0+dfsg-2 |
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| 10:39.10 | boudiccas | lonnie: read whats said to you please, thats twice you've asked about freemind , and twice you've been given the same answer. |
| 10:39.12 | lonnie | sweet |
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| 10:39.56 | lonnie | fair enough |
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| 10:41.37 | lonnie | Do you install debian testing by first installing the stable and then changing config files. Or, do you install it right off the bat with a particular iso image? |
| 10:41.59 | boudiccas | lonnie: either, i prefer installiong straight wheezy |
| 10:42.13 | Devastator | lonnie again, why do you need testing? |
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| 10:42.40 | Devastator | testing has still some bugs to be worked out and no security patches! |
| 10:43.07 | lonnie | I'm not sure I need it, actually. I just thought it might be more like what I'm use to with Ubuntu 12.10. |
| 10:43.10 | boudiccas | Devastator: true, logcheck is broken atm, and its broken my logwatch with it too |
| 10:43.31 | lonnie | Doesn't Ubutnu use packages that are in testing by default? |
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| 10:43.54 | Devastator | lonnie if you don't mind me asking, why are you switching from ubuntu to debian? |
| 10:44.19 | Devastator | lonnie quoting jelly-home: "the base was testing for the last two releases but they also have a set of packages they pull from unstable, a set of their own, and some they get from upstream" |
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| 10:44.27 | lonnie | I feel like Ubuntu is turning into a spy OS |
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| 10:45.14 | lonnie | Ubuntu is become a little intrusive. |
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| 10:45.38 | Devastator | a little.. right |
| 10:46.02 | lonnie | I figure debian wouldn't pull those tricks. |
| 10:46.37 | Devastator | you figure right I guess |
| 10:46.44 | lonnie | I figure with debian, I'd feel more private about my OS as being mine and not some company that has root access to my stuff. |
| 10:47.23 | sirToast | I don't think they have root access. but the ads may be a privacy problem |
| 10:47.31 | lonnie | You see, I read a interview with Mark S, where he said "eww, we have root" as a reply to someones mistrust. |
| 10:47.35 | lonnie | That made me think..... |
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| 10:48.45 | lonnie | Does Ubuntu corporate have root access to every install made? |
| 10:49.06 | lonnie | If so, I don't want anyone to have root access but me. |
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| 10:50.05 | lonnie | Most ubuntu users never even use root, they just sudo.....Was Mark saying that he has root to all ubuntu installations? |
| 10:50.22 | sirToast | "We are not telling Amazon what you are searching for. Your anonymity is preserved because we handle the query on your behalf. Don’t trust us? Erm, we have root. You do trust us with your data already. You trust us not to screw up on your machine with every update. You trust Debian, and you trust a large swathe of the open source community. And most importantly, you trust us to address it when, being human, we err." |
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| 10:50.47 | lonnie | http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1182 (see "we have root") |
| 10:50.56 | boudiccas | lonnie: sorry, but you're off topic please take your ubuntu ramblings to #debian-offtopic where it is ontopic there, thanks |
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| 10:52.10 | lonnie | It isn't off topic, I was asked a question, and I answered it. The question was "Why are you moving from Ubuntu to debian" Off topic? |
| 10:52.41 | boudiccas | lonnie: yes, you answered it, but kept going after the question had been answered |
| 10:53.05 | lonnie | Who makes asshole like you guys? |
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| 10:53.44 | lonnie | What is so precious about this chatroom that someone can't elaborate on an answer? |
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| 10:54.08 | lonnie | turn off you damn beep sound. Why else would it aggravate you? |
| 10:54.25 | samba35 | i have installed windows on linux with kvm ,i want to access windows machine over internet for that what i should do i have utm (firewall/vpn/routeing /av/spam/proxy) from utm i plan to use nat |
| 10:54.44 | lonnie | And who care if someone types more than one line.... ridiculous if you ask me. |
| 10:54.46 | jelly-home | lonnie: poeple here get enthusiastic about keeping the channel clear for tech support, at times |
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| 10:55.37 | lonnie | Yeah, well, they need have a personality like human being too. |
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| 10:55.45 | Azrael_- | hi |
| 10:56.02 | Azrael_- | how can i scan for running machines on another subnet in my local lan if i don't know the exact ip range/mask without trying all of them manually? |
| 10:56.15 | legitnick1 | nmap |
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| 10:58.27 | jelly-home | samba35: with NAT enable, you would have to set up explicit port forwards on the host to enable access to services on the VM from the outside |
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| 10:59.25 | jelly-home | samba35: alternatively, set up a vpn and access the machine over that |
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| 10:59.46 | samba35 | please correct me if i am wrong ,but with bridge on linux linux and windows will have same ip or differant ip ? |
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| 11:00.41 | jelly-home | samba35: if you used bridging on the host instead of nat, you'd have the VM exposed on the same network the host is on; it would have its own MAC address and, most likely, a separate IP |
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| 11:01.34 | legitnick1 | unless its a bridged adapter |
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| 11:02.42 | samba35 | ok so i will have differant ip for windows and differant ip fro linux host |
| 11:03.26 | jelly-home | yes. In that case the (windows) VM is exposed completely to the same network as the host, but it's easier to configure access to its services |
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| 11:03.39 | samba35 | again ,correct me if i dont use bridge i will not able to use windows on linux host ? |
| 11:04.07 | samba35 | i will post my interface details to pastbin |
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| 11:05.20 | jelly-home | you can use it. Windows does not care much. |
| 11:05.32 | samba35 | http://pastebin.com/x1AF5YtJ |
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| 11:05.41 | jelly-home | it's a different thing if you want to get to that windows machine from somewhere outside |
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| 11:06.41 | samba35 | what will be windows ip likely to be ? |
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| 11:08.04 | samba35 | i am trying to install windows on on ubuntu with it fail at last starge and it ask for reboot and same process go on again now i have started fresh windows 7 insalled x86 |
| 11:08.11 | jelly-home | samba35: with bridging? It's going to get an address from the same DHCP server your linux host did, unless you configure it differently |
| 11:09.24 | jelly-home | samba35: if your host is an Ubuntu installation, you should ask in #ubuntu or ##linux channels to avoid debian-specific presumptions and answers |
| 11:09.26 | samba35 | i have utm software on esxi and from which i will get dhcp address |
| 11:09.41 | samba35 | yes true |
| 11:09.44 | jelly-home | has no idea what utm is |
| 11:11.06 | samba35 | utm is software which give you feature rich service like firewall ,routeing ,vpn .antivirus ,spam ,proxy ,content filering ,load balance /fail over and so on |
| 11:12.32 | samba35 | http://www.watchguard.com/why/utm.asp |
| 11:12.42 | samba35 | but i am not using watchguard |
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| 11:28.36 | samba35 | jelly-home, thanks i will get back to you if i have further problem in understand or configuration |
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| 11:31.44 | jelly-home | .o/ |
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| 11:34.32 | ompaul | jelly-home: \o. |
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| 12:03.59 | DeeTah | how can I disable username checking on postgresql? |
| 12:04.26 | DeeTah | i mean, i'm logged as, for exameple, d33tah, but want to log in as "pai" (i can't even though i know his password) |
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| 12:18.02 | nkuttler | DeeTah: see the postgres auth docs |
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| 12:36.00 | paulbanks | guys quick question, is there a debian installation that comes with xfce pre-installed ? im thinking of trying it out but dont want to go through using commandline to install everything from scratch |
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| 12:39.19 | Devastator | paulbanks i think yes.. |
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| 12:39.36 | Devastator | but only wheezy iirc |
| 12:39.36 | sirToast | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.6/amd64/iso-cd/debian-6.0.6-amd64-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso |
| 12:39.56 | paulbanks | thanks |
| 12:40.35 | ksuhku | paulbanks, also see http://wiki.debian.org/Xfce |
| 12:40.36 | Devastator | hum, i think wheezy's netinst then.. |
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| 12:52.51 | LU324 | I used to have issues with sound not working in different programs, and settled on oss4 which seemed to work |
| 12:53.06 | LU324 | then i had an update, and it got broken saying there's no mixers |
| 12:54.30 | LU324 | now I'm trying to see if alsa would work, I removed the packages and installed the alsa ones, rebooted, and alsamixer says it can't open /dev/mixer |
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| 12:55.01 | LU324 | what should i do to get sound working (in either oss or alsa, as long as it works)? |
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| 12:59.19 | ksuhku | LU324, that on squeeze or? |
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| 13:06.32 | LU324 | ksuhku: 1: yes 2: I don't know |
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| 13:08.19 | ksuhku | LU324, do you use a custom kernel? |
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| 13:08.45 | LU324 | ksuhku: no, just the kernel that came with it |
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| 13:10.06 | ksuhku | LU324, maybe you'll find something useful here http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA |
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| 13:13.37 | LU324 | ksuhku: I saw that page, cat /proc/asound/cards seems to work fine, and i don't have an "alsactl" command |
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| 13:14.11 | valdyn | LU324: linux-sound-base should be installed |
| 13:14.59 | valdyn | LU324: /proc/asound/cards is there as soon as you have the kernel drivers, which are there by default. |
| 13:15.15 | LU324 | valdyn: aptitude says "No candidate version found for linux-sound-base" and doesn't do anything |
| 13:15.43 | valdyn | LU324: which debian release are you using? |
| 13:16.18 | valdyn | judd: versions linux-sound-base |
| 13:16.20 | judd | Package: linux-sound-base on i386 -- lenny: 1.0.17.dfsg-4; squeeze: 1.0.23+dfsg-2 |
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| 13:16.47 | LU324 | valdyn: testing |
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| 13:17.26 | valdyn | LU324: install alsa-utils then |
| 13:18.00 | LU324 | valdyn: I already had it installed |
| 13:18.16 | valdyn | LU324: thats where alsactl is |
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| 13:18.23 | valdyn | LU324: and you said you didnt have it |
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| 13:18.33 | valdyn | LU324: /usr/sbin/alsactl |
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| 13:20.47 | LU324 | valdyn: that's strange, it works now, but I was certain that it said command not found before... |
| 13:20.58 | Aleksander | Hello :) Where can I get .deb packages older than in stable? I need libsane-extras 1.0.19 |
| 13:21.13 | valdyn | LU324: that could be because /usr/sbin/ is not in the user PATH |
| 13:21.37 | valdyn | !debian archive |
| 13:21.37 | dpkg | Debian has archives of no-longer-supported releases at http://archive.debian.org/ . To use with <APT>, see http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive . For old versions of specific packages, ask me about <snapshot>. Old Debian <ISO> files are archived at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
| 13:21.46 | valdyn | Aleksander: ^^ |
| 13:21.50 | Aleksander | valdyn, thanks |
| 13:23.58 | LU324 | valdyn: ok, i did that command, now rebooting... |
| 13:24.12 | valdyn | LU324: why would you reboot? |
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| 13:25.03 | LU324 | valdyn: because the wiki page says so after "alsactl init" |
| 13:25.35 | Aleksander | valdyn, and how do I install an older package when I have archive in my sources. list? name-1.0.19? |
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| 13:31.22 | touki | Hi do someone know how to change the print buffer from the shell ? |
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| 13:32.22 | alfplayer | print buffer? |
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| 13:35.22 | LU324 | so, that didn't fix it |
| 13:35.37 | LU324 | $ alsamixer |
| 13:35.42 | LU324 | ALSA lib ctl_oss.c:398:(_snd_ctl_oss_open) Cannot open device /dev/mixer |
| 13:35.46 | LU324 | cannot open mixer: No such file or directory |
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| 13:40.47 | touki | alfplayer: I don't know the word |
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| 13:41.13 | alfplayer | touki: what are you trying to do? |
| 13:41.28 | touki | Right know I'm decoding on java, and what the console print is not enough to see the two first lines of debug messages |
| 13:41.37 | touki | -k |
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| 13:41.57 | LU324 | valdyn: see what I said above |
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| 13:43.32 | alfplayer | touki: how is it not enough? |
| 13:43.59 | nkuttler | touki: scroll up? |
| 13:44.22 | max999 | touki: pipe the output to a file? |
| 13:45.18 | touki | scroll up |
| 13:45.19 | touki | yep |
| 13:45.23 | touki | i tried to pipe |
| 13:45.38 | touki | like javac project/Graph.java > debug |
| 13:45.44 | touki | it didn't do anything |
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| 13:46.02 | max999 | pipe erroroutput too |
| 13:46.11 | alfplayer | try command &> file.txt |
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| 13:47.07 | touki | good point |
| 13:47.23 | Tejp | Hey, does anybody know how I'd go about setting up autologin in debian? |
| 13:47.26 | touki | so what ? & means launchig it as a thread no ? |
| 13:47.42 | touki | Tejp: autologin ? |
| 13:47.49 | Tejp | I've check the box that says Logn is as USER after start |
| 13:47.58 | Tejp | But it askes for my password anyway. |
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| 13:48.07 | alfplayer | touki: no. it means adding the standard error stream |
| 13:48.37 | touki | alfplayer: thx I'll check that |
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| 13:48.43 | LU324 | so no ideas about my sound issue? |
| 13:49.06 | abrotman | LU324: does the device exist? |
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| 13:49.29 | alfplayer | touki: sure. also you can try command |& tee file.txt |
| 13:49.35 | LU324 | abrotman: you mean /dev/mixer? |
| 13:49.56 | alfplayer | touki: to print to console and pipe to file |
| 13:50.57 | LU324 | abrotman: if that's what you mean, no, it doesn't exist |
| 13:51.48 | LU324 | also, just saying, if it would be easier to make OSS4 work instead fo ALSA I can do that, too |
| 13:52.54 | LU324 | and OSS4's issue was also that it couldn't open /dev/mixer (as far as I understood) |
| 13:53.10 | abrotman | LU324: and you've loaded the correct modules? |
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| 13:54.23 | LU324 | abrotman: I don't know how or what to load |
| 13:54.48 | abrotman | snd_mixer_oss .. maybe? |
| 13:55.22 | LU324 | so I should switch back to oss for that? |
| 13:56.06 | abrotman | no |
| 13:56.11 | abrotman | just try loading the module |
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| 13:58.40 | LU324 | abrotman: now alsamixer works, but there's no sound |
| 13:59.15 | LU324 | and when I test with mplayer, it says it can't open audio |
| 13:59.46 | abrotman | did you try turning up the volume? |
| 13:59.53 | max999 | hmm. the function keys on my notebook are not working. i think there should be a daemon for it? |
| 14:00.27 | abrotman | max999: depends on your model and what the keys are meant to do |
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| 14:00.45 | LU324 | abrotman: yes, and I also don't think that would change the fact that programs say they can't open audio |
| 14:00.56 | max999 | abrotman, i only care about the touchpad disable / enable one :) on a AO756 |
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| 14:03.07 | abrotman | LU324: error ? |
| 14:03.29 | abrotman | max999: hrm, i did mine in the bios .. |
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| 14:03.37 | abrotman | max999: maybe check linux-laptop.net |
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| 14:05.42 | LU324 | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/zLvxcTza |
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| 14:07.35 | abrotman | LU324: that's a different error .. load the snd_pcm_oss module |
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| 14:07.44 | max999 | abrotman, some do work obviously. i can disable to display with fn + f5 :) |
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| 14:08.41 | abrotman | max999: yeah, they have different backend functions i guess .. i'd check that website, see if others have gotten it to work |
| 14:09.11 | LU324 | abrotman: the sound seems to work now. will these modules be automatically be loaded on boot next time? |
| 14:09.28 | LU324 | also, why do you think it stopped working in the first place? |
| 14:09.43 | abrotman | LU324: see /etc/modules .. put those two modules in there |
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| 14:13.33 | LU324 | abrotman: ok, I'll read about that |
| 14:14.05 | LU324 | also, if iever decide to use OSS again, do you think the fact that those modules were missing is what broke it, too? |
| 14:15.12 | sirToast | why do you want to use OSS? Alsa is much better |
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| 14:16.04 | sirToast | there are some compatibility modules for alsa to give OSS support |
| 14:16.36 | abrotman | LU324: NFC .. don't use OSS4, use alsa+pulse |
| 14:16.41 | abrotman | IMO anyway |
| 14:17.57 | LU324 | I don't know, OSS just worked until now and supports adjusting the volume of individual applications. also some people say it's better |
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| 14:19.10 | jacklk | Can I use.. dd to create a bootable Windows 7 USB? |
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| 14:19.12 | jacklk | I'm talking about dd on Linux. |
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| 14:20.24 | abrotman | what? |
| 14:20.29 | abrotman | how would we know? |
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| 14:20.49 | jacklk | Because you know about dd on Linux?# |
| 14:21.13 | abrotman | let me think about what we know about Windows .. |
| 14:21.24 | abrotman | oh .. I know how to spell it! |
| 14:21.38 | jacklk | Fair enough bigot. |
| 14:22.05 | abrotman | any other offtopic questions? |
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| 14:22.16 | jacklk | It's not offtopic. |
| 14:22.34 | jacklk | I'm talking about dd, on Debian the OS you use, and whether I can copy a Windows iso using it. |
| 14:23.42 | abrotman | try it, let us know |
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| 14:24.03 | jacklk | Sure.. |
| 14:24.08 | nkuttler | jacklk: you can copy files with dd. ask ##windows about the rest |
| 14:24.33 | wols | jacklk: no |
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| 14:24.42 | jacklk | wols: have you tried it? |
| 14:25.04 | wols | it needs a special layout that is different from ISO/CD. you cannot create it with dd |
| 14:25.56 | jacklk | okay |
| 14:25.59 | jacklk | thank you |
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| 14:30.22 | frikinz | Hi. What line should now be used for a kernel say 3.6 in fstab to mount a remote cifs share? |
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| 14:33.37 | nkuttler | frikinz: same as with a 3.5 kernel? |
| 14:34.07 | nkuttler | frikinz: see also man 5 fstab |
| 14:35.19 | frikinz | nkuttler: "same as with 3.5 kernel" doesn't help me as I didn't have it working on 3.5 :) |
| 14:35.28 | frikinz | 3.2 was ok |
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| 14:36.31 | frikinz | man 5 fstab won't help either |
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| 14:38.14 | nkuttler | !tell frikinz about errors |
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| 14:39.14 | frikinz | //192.168.1.254/Disque\040dur /mnt/freebox cifs noauto,username=freebox,password=meh,workgroup=WORKGROUP,ip=192.168.1.254 0 0 |
| 14:39.22 | frikinz | [59279.316130] CIFS VFS: Connecting to DFS root not implemented yet |
| 14:39.23 | frikinz | [59279.316225] CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -22 |
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| 14:41.38 | ksuhku | max999, does xev catch the key you wish to use? |
| 14:45.24 | max999 | ksuhku, no, in dmesg is something about unknown key pressed. |
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| 14:48.18 | ksuhku | max999, can you put the dmesg part onto paste.debian.net |
| 14:49.32 | max999 | ksuhku, http://paste.debian.net/222217/ |
| 14:50.08 | max999 | i tried some setkey commands, also with help from google for function keys without success |
| 14:50.21 | boudiccas | i've bought a new computer which comes tomorrow and its graphic card is AMD Radeon HD 6410D Graphics what drivers will i need for it for wheezy please? |
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| 14:50.59 | abrotman | probably fglrx |
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| 14:51.31 | ksuhku | max999, and xev is oblivious about the key also after the setkeycodes? |
| 14:51.45 | boudiccas | abrotman: so it would be 'apt-get install fglrx' then would it please? |
| 14:51.59 | max999 | ksuhku, xev sees no input at all for this key combination |
| 14:52.04 | abrotman | boudiccas: aptitude? |
| 14:52.19 | Petaz | CyberpowerPC Gamer Ultra |
| 14:52.26 | abrotman | boudiccas: i hav eno idea .. i don't buy computers with video cards that only work with binary drivers |
| 14:52.29 | boudiccas | abrotman: yes, i'm just more used to apt-get |
| 14:52.46 | Petaz | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229310 |
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| 14:52.59 | abrotman | Petaz: do you need help? |
| 14:53.02 | boudiccas | abrotman: i'm constrained by my budget |
| 14:53.14 | Petaz | thats must be his computer |
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| 14:53.19 | abrotman | boudiccas: motherboards with builtin video is usually cheaper, but nice try |
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| 14:54.26 | ksuhku | hehe |
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| 14:55.17 | Shu | What is Debian doing exactly that's been murdering my servers disk I/O for the past 5-10 minutes? |
| 14:55.20 | Shu | updatedb.mlocate |
| 14:55.43 | abrotman | updating the 'locate' cache |
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| 14:56.36 | wols | is it 6am where you are? mine does this only around 6:20 daily |
| 14:56.37 | Petaz | patget -r locate --purge ? |
| 14:56.51 | abrotman | Petaz: please stop trying to "help" |
| 14:56.57 | Shu | Sun Jan 6 07:56:50 MST 2013 |
| 14:56.58 | Shu | Server time |
| 14:57.04 | abrotman | Shu: anacron |
| 14:57.35 | wols | boudiccas: radeon will work fine with your new APU |
| 14:57.39 | Shu | Why is it taking so long to run? I've never noticed it before. |
| 14:57.48 | abrotman | Shu: could be some other resource contention |
| 14:57.51 | wols | abrotman: it's a videocard inside his new CPU |
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| 14:58.19 | wols | Shu: it reads all filenames in so you can do a "locate foo" to show you all filenames that contain "foo" |
| 14:58.27 | Petaz | abrotman: is aware of that |
| 14:58.33 | abrotman | wols: so it's on board? when i was looking at these recently, i didn't see anything that new for an onboard for AMD |
| 14:58.47 | abrotman | wols: but i prefer intel stuffs these days anyway |
| 14:59.26 | abrotman | everything i saw was Radeon 4xxx series for onboard |
| 14:59.31 | wols | abrotman: APUs. like E-350, A8-5600k, etc. and the 2nd generation of those came out in october |
| 14:59.38 | Petaz | intel sucks your marrow |
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| 14:59.50 | wols | abrotman: radeon 6xxxD exists for >2 years now |
| 14:59.54 | abrotman | Petaz: that's enough of that .. have a good day |
| 14:59.59 | Shu | So basically it's extremely slow right now because a large number of files have been recently downlaoded onto the server? |
| 15:00.15 | Shu | I actually never even knew of the locate comands existence until now |
| 15:00.17 | abrotman | wols: no idea what i was looking at then, i'll have to look again |
| 15:00.26 | Shu | I just use find |
| 15:01.00 | wols | abrotman: the stuff where the GPU in on the motherboard uses 4xxx and is old, 3 years or so. newer gens don't have any motherboard GPUs anymore |
| 15:01.04 | abrotman | wols: i really don't see anything that nice on newegg .. i must be searching wrong |
| 15:01.34 | wols | abrotman: look for "FM2" that's the socket for these CPUs. you will get mobos and cpus |
| 15:01.44 | wols | great for a family PC or for a HTPC |
| 15:02.01 | abrotman | wols: ah, now i see |
| 15:02.08 | boudiccas | abrotman: this is my new computer http://www.ebuyer.com/407538-zoostorm-desktop-pc-7873-1076 |
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| 15:02.16 | abrotman | wols: the mobo doesn't list it as supported, the CPU does .. thanks for the info |
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| 15:03.37 | wols | abrotman: yes, as I wrote in the beginning: "it's a videocard inside his new CPU |
| 15:03.51 | wols | just like with the intel cpus |
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| 15:04.08 | abrotman | wols: i got that part, but the mobo still has to support it? |
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| 15:05.08 | wols | abrotman: like on intel. the mobo has to have a video out port like hdmi, dvi or vga. but all mobos for the cpu socket there have it. no exception |
| 15:05.22 | abrotman | ah okay |
| 15:05.33 | abrotman | yay buying laptops :) |
| 15:05.45 | wols | fyi, I just want to tell you that Petaz thinks you are a prik (sic!) |
| 15:05.48 | dvs | boo! |
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| 15:06.03 | abrotman | wols: didn't msg me! |
| 15:06.12 | wols | and I'm an idiot (properly spelt) |
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| 15:06.43 | abrotman | wols: no arguing there .. we should have had this entire conversation in #debian-offtopic :) |
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| 15:11.14 | Shu | Can I interrupt updatedb somehow? |
| 15:11.17 | Shu | safely? |
| 15:11.20 | Shu | Without restarting |
| 15:11.36 | abrotman | i'd kill it if it's still going |
| 15:11.59 | Towzzer | shu - it won't cause a problem, especially if you rarely use the locate command |
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| 15:13.09 | wols | Shu: it's safe. at most the locate DB is corrupted |
| 15:13.25 | wols | maybe it's stuck in a lopp. one can create loops in the filesystem with links, right? |
| 15:13.45 | hke | hi, i want to find out what gnome version wheezy will use, is it correct to look at the version of gnome-session to do so? |
| 15:14.01 | wols | ,versions gnome |
| 15:14.02 | judd | Package: gnome on i386 -- lenny: 1:2.22.2~5; squeeze: 1:2.30+7; sid: 1:3.4+7; wheezy: 1:3.4+7 |
| 15:14.13 | wols | looks pretty clear to me |
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| 15:14.51 | abrotman | judd: versions gnome-session |
| 15:14.53 | judd | Package: gnome-session on i386 -- lenny: 2.22.3-2; squeeze: 2.30.2-3; sid: 3.4.2.1-3; wheezy: 3.4.2.1-3; experimental: 3.6.0-1 |
| 15:15.59 | hke | i've seen that, but is that the right way to determine the version number for gnome as a whole? |
| 15:17.21 | dvs | hke: I'd go with the version of the gnome package |
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| 15:18.17 | hke | dvs: aha, thats what i wanted to know, thank you! |
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| 15:21.09 | jez_ | Hi! I've some troubles to boot my debian ... I use grub2 but kernel doesn't boot ... don't know why |
| 15:21.22 | wols | !errors |
| 15:21.22 | dpkg | If you don't tell us the exact error messages you get, we can't tell you what's wrong, and it's also useful to know exactly what command you're typing. Please look for the *first* error that occurs, as this is often the cause of later errors -- ask me about <localized errors> too. Please don't paste in the channel, use a pastebin instead; ask me about <pastebin>. |
| 15:21.23 | jez_ | Grub2 loops |
| 15:21.37 | jez_ | There is no error message :/ |
| 15:21.45 | wols | you get a normal grub2 menu? |
| 15:21.49 | jez_ | After loadin initram, grub restart |
| 15:22.01 | jez_ | There are no usual messages or anything else |
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| 15:22.53 | ksuhku | jez_, some custom kernel and initramfs? |
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| 15:24.06 | jez_ | ksuhku: kernel 2.6.32-5 |
| 15:24.09 | jez_ | From repo |
| 15:24.24 | jez_ | But it's an OVH server, with debootstraped debian |
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| 15:24.47 | jez_ | maybe I should go for a 3.x kernel ? |
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| 15:26.09 | pmo | random question.. fav music players on linux? |
| 15:26.16 | ksuhku | pmo, mpd |
| 15:26.27 | dvs | pmo: audacious |
| 15:26.32 | abrotman | !tell pmo about polls |
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| 15:27.26 | MrNice | pmo: mpd + ncmcpp |
| 15:27.31 | pmo | abrotman: just a fast question to see what debian users used, to help me pick, and they just helped me pick :) |
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| 15:29.33 | pmo | went with yours btw MrNice :) |
| 15:30.27 | MrNice | Works very well for me |
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| 15:30.50 | pmo | see this is why i asked in here, get proper responds :) |
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| 15:35.14 | boudiccas | pmo: and mpd can do streaming radio off the internet, superb |
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| 15:36.56 | pmo | oh nice boudiccas :) |
| 15:37.06 | pmo | can be useful when in the kitchen :) |
| 15:37.13 | MrNice | Yeah, without crashing! <cough> rhythmbox <cough> |
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| 15:37.58 | boudiccas | radiotray can also do streaming radio but its not quite such good sound quality or strength of signal, only mpd can handle that |
| 15:38.26 | boudiccas | radiotray stutters and stops, mpd just handles it out of the box |
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| 15:38.39 | pmo | boudiccas: i have a rasberrypi in the kitchen.. for music :) |
| 15:39.49 | boudiccas | you'd be better off getting a client for mpd running on it, i recommend cmpcpp, command line ncurses one that works very well |
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| 15:41.06 | pmo | yea what i was thinking, steam to the kitchen :) |
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| 15:44.43 | boudiccas | pmo: and you can monitor your mpd with conky too, two simple tools that work well togethor |
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| 15:46.18 | pmo | nice, already running conky :) |
| 15:46.44 | pmo | i think there is an weechat script too, to control it |
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| 15:47.12 | companion | Any one knows how to solve this issue: (104)Connection reset by peer: mod_fcgid: error reading data from FastCGI server, referer: |
| 15:47.13 | companion | ? |
| 15:47.24 | Towzzer | php-fpm? |
| 15:47.26 | companion | its on a debian machine with virtualmin/webmin installed |
| 15:47.32 | companion | Towzzer, I beleave thats installed yea |
| 15:47.42 | Towzzer | telnet localhost 9000 |
| 15:47.46 | Towzzer | what happens |
| 15:48.01 | companion | wont that end up in a loop? |
| 15:48.11 | Towzzer | no, it will either connect or not |
| 15:48.22 | companion | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
| 15:48.30 | MrNice | Is that default webmin port? |
| 15:48.37 | companion | nop |
| 15:48.40 | Towzzer | I think that's the default php-fpm port |
| 15:48.45 | companion | 10000 = default webmin |
| 15:48.48 | Towzzer | but maybe later versions default to unix sockets |
| 15:49.04 | Towzzer | compansion, service php-fpm status |
| 15:50.08 | companion | php-fpm: unrecognized service |
| 15:50.22 | companion | MySQL keeps crashing aswell -.- |
| 15:50.24 | companion | due kernel : / |
| 15:50.25 | Towzzer | maybe I don't understand webmin, I'm only trying to help you as if you were using nginx+php-fpm |
| 15:50.26 | companion | sec |
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| 15:50.54 | boudiccas | !webmin |
| 15:50.55 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 . The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality. See <free whcp> for alternatives. |
| 15:51.02 | companion | Towzzer, its apache |
| 15:51.51 | MrNice | lol dkpg, i'll pass this info on to my lecturer |
| 15:52.01 | abrotman | someone teaches people to use webmin?! |
| 15:52.15 | dvs | uh oh |
| 15:52.22 | MrNice | I know and this is one of my better lecturers |
| 15:52.23 | abrotman | someone should be fired |
| 15:52.29 | abrotman | those who can't, teach? :) |
| 15:52.34 | dvs | looks at the DeVry degree |
| 15:52.59 | MrNice | But those who teach assign grades so i keep my mouth shut :( |
| 15:54.02 | antithesis | Hello |
| 15:54.47 | antithesis | Is iceweasel developed independently of firefox, or always based on the version of it? |
| 15:55.54 | dvs | antithesis: No, iceweasel is a rebranded firefox. That's it. |
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| 15:58.26 | ksuhku | antithesis, it's the same thing, plus sunglasses |
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| 15:59.41 | companion | Towzzer, got any idea how to fix it? |
| 16:00.10 | boudiccas | companion: drop webmin and learn to manage your system properly, from the CLI |
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| 16:00.31 | companion | boudiccas, on my local lamp server its the same issue even trough CLI :p |
| 16:00.49 | MrNice | companion: what was the referer in your error msg? |
| 16:01.27 | companion | MrNice, its in about any page its only on a single website tho |
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| 16:01.38 | companion | MrNice, and other sites run perfect |
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| 16:02.02 | MrNice | so not specific to a script? |
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| 16:02.30 | companion | Premature end of script headers: cron-run.php |
| 16:03.45 | Towzzer | companion, I'm not sure sorry |
| 16:03.55 | companion | stopped the cron and server is functional again |
| 16:04.18 | abrotman | webmin isn't supported here |
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| 16:04.36 | abrotman | there's a #webmin for people that want to use it |
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| 16:04.52 | MrNice | You need to fix that script |
| 16:05.02 | companion | I think its the execution time : / |
| 16:05.21 | MrNice | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12153518/connection-reset-by-peer-mod-fcgid-error-reading-data-from-fastcgi-server |
| 16:05.25 | MrNice | may help |
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| 16:07.57 | MrNice | Companion:but yea drop webmin... |
| 16:08.43 | Deivan | Someone here use GTK++ and C/C++? I have a doubt... |
| 16:09.03 | boudiccas | !someone |
| 16:09.03 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 16:09.12 | Deivan | Ok... |
| 16:09.13 | Deivan | What is the diference between create a Entry Box with "Gtkentry *" and "Gtk::Entry *"? |
| 16:09.25 | Deivan | Is a off topic question... I think. |
| 16:09.29 | abrotman | sure is |
| 16:09.41 | abrotman | Deivan: there's a ##c, and also, there's a #gnome that might be more help |
| 16:09.52 | Deivan | Ok. |
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| 16:11.24 | joya | is there a tool in the repo that is able to monitor the traffic applications cause? For example, I would like to found out whether aptitude uses the proxy I set up in the variable `HTTP_PROXY' |
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| 16:14.20 | wols | joya: iptraf could |
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| 16:25.05 | Ticho | i wonder, is there someone working on packaging (the finally released) Enlightenment for debian? |
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| 16:26.01 | abrotman | Ticho: the e17? |
| 16:26.12 | abrotman | Ticho: cause i mean, e16 has been packaged :) |
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| 16:27.06 | abrotman | Ticho: i think they packaged dr17 for wheezy, i'd guess after wheezy releases, they'll get the newer/released versions in sid |
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| 16:27.33 | abrotman | judd: versions e17 |
| 16:27.34 | judd | Package: e17 on i386 -- sid: 0.16.999.70492-2; wheezy: 0.16.999.70492-2 |
| 16:27.53 | thewanderer1 | Ticho, http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-e-devel/2013-January/001609.html browse around the list, too :) |
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| 16:30.19 | Ticho | thewanderer1: huh, i only thought to check the general devel and users lists, thanks |
| 16:33.09 | enyawix | I found something strange in debian testing beta4 i think mt download time was 23 hours ago; command line completion in aptitude only work for non root. |
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| 16:34.25 | nkuttler | enyawix: because you don't source the completion stuff as root? |
| 16:34.46 | pmo | do any of you have experiance with setting up a mic on debian? |
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| 16:35.35 | abrotman | pmo: you? |
| 16:35.38 | enyawix | nkuttler: like aptitude will tab out search and install as non root |
| 16:35.52 | pmo | abrotman: ? |
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| 16:36.38 | nkuttler | enyawix: because you don't source the completion stuff as root? |
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| 16:37.27 | enyawix | enyawix: tab completion is working for other stuff as root |
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| 16:38.04 | abrotman | pmo: /msg dpkg ask |
| 16:38.21 | pmo | im pretty sure he wouldnt |
| 16:38.23 | enyawix | i do not want to give non root access to aptitude |
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| 16:38.58 | nkuttler | enyawix: see /usr/share/doc/bash-completion/README.* |
| 16:39.01 | abrotman | wonders why pmo doesn't want anyone to help him |
| 16:39.32 | enyawix | nkuttler: thanks |
| 16:39.45 | thewanderer1 | abrotman, pride and prejudice? :) |
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| 16:41.18 | pmo | abrotman: what do you mean? |
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| 16:41.58 | pmo | i dont need that bot, i can google just fine, unrelated to my question tho hehe |
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| 16:42.40 | enyawix | pmo: what is your issue i just got in here; fell free to /msg me if you need to past something |
| 16:42.54 | abrotman | keep it in the channel |
| 16:43.08 | pmo | enyawix: i just solved i :) |
| 16:43.15 | pmo | it* |
| 16:43.16 | abrotman | pmo: asking vague questions will not get others to help you .. if you want help, be specific |
| 16:43.26 | abrotman | dpkg: tell pmo about ask |
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| 16:44.19 | pmo | abrotman: every smart person knows 100% about my issue :P |
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| 16:44.45 | pmo | its the same everyone has |
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| 16:45.00 | pmo | but i solved it |
| 16:45.09 | pmo | dont ask me why, but a link on askubuntu hehe |
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| 16:45.40 | enyawix | overall debian testing rocks; is there a testing non-free repository for things like drivers? |
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| 16:46.28 | nkuttler | enyawix: sure, as for stable |
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| 16:47.35 | enyawix | also on install i did not get the trim option to support ssd drives |
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| 16:52.24 | thewanderer1 | enyawix, you'll need to enable it manually (after ensuring that your kernel version supports it) - for ext4, it's called discard |
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| 17:00.19 | samba35 | after mounting iscsi file (not disk) on linux how do i add /copy (or create a file )file to that image (in the image ) |
| 17:00.34 | abrotman | pmo: no, it's not the same .. i've not had any issues with my mic .. |
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| 17:03.19 | blackshirt | hello, what is recommended way to dual boot debian and freebsd, what should i install firstly ? |
| 17:03.21 | pmo | abrotman: so? im on a so common mb that its shameful to mention it doesnt work. |
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| 17:04.03 | f8l | blackshirt: I don't think it matters much. |
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| 17:04.35 | nkuttler | blackshirt: i'd install debian first so that you can use grub to chainload |
| 17:04.37 | abrotman | blackshirt: depends which you want to manage the bootloader |
| 17:04.40 | pmo | if can install grub etc on the last install if you want, or just update grub on debian blackshirt |
| 17:04.53 | pmo | you can* |
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| 17:07.15 | PinkFreud | growls at KMS |
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| 17:07.39 | PinkFreud | Upgraded a perfectly stable HTPC to the latest squeeze packages last weekend. |
| 17:08.09 | PinkFreud | I've been fighting with KMS issues ever since. This is bizarre, as this pc was working just fine with KMS beforehand. |
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| 17:08.45 | blackshirt | abrotman, what first i should install to make ot happen ? |
| 17:08.50 | PinkFreud | I've already to track down one issue with the console going black on boot to uvesafb being loaded. How this happened, I've no clue. |
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| 17:09.11 | wildc4rd | is there an inbuilt realtime spellchecker in Debian? If so, how do I go about enabling it please |
| 17:09.36 | PinkFreud | Now I have a perfectly usable console. X comes up, and I get a desktop... right until the first glx client connects, at which point the display goes black and the pc becomes completely unresponsive. |
| 17:10.33 | PinkFreud | So... does the latest squeeze kernel completely break KMS on radeon hw? |
| 17:10.41 | PinkFreud | ... and if so, why? |
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| 17:11.21 | Skaag | which fs type is more likely to emerge "fixed" out of an fsck? ext2 or ext4? |
| 17:11.23 | sney | PinkFreud, squeeze kernel updates are supposed to only be security updates and bugfixes |
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| 17:11.31 | sney | PinkFreud, has anyone else reported your issue on the bts? |
| 17:11.35 | MrNice | PinkFreud: do you have correct ati driver loaded? |
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| 17:11.44 | jelly-home | Skaag: why not ext3? |
| 17:11.59 | PinkFreud | sney: Unknown at this time. |
| 17:12.07 | sney | I mean you should look |
| 17:12.13 | PinkFreud | MrNice: Yep. |
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| 17:12.54 | PinkFreud | I have an xorg.conf that I have to use for this pc, as it connects to an older TV via video converter (hence, no EDID) |
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| 17:13.02 | PinkFreud | xorg.conf has not changed. |
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| 17:14.00 | PinkFreud | sney: The trouble is, I upgraded a number of packages. I've apparently been running an older squeeze elease on here. |
| 17:14.06 | jelly-home | PinkFreud: you can get the previous kernel version from snapshot.debian.or, see if booting it undoes the damage |
| 17:14.19 | PinkFreud | Some time between the release I had installed and last weekend, everything went to hell. |
| 17:14.36 | PinkFreud | jelly-home: hmmm. Ok, that's a start. |
| 17:14.50 | sney | PinkFreud, still, squeeze is squeeze. it's not like you actually went up a version on anything. |
| 17:15.03 | PinkFreud | sney: I know. That's why this is so puzzling. |
| 17:15.10 | thewanderer1 | uh, was it a "squeeze testing" -> "squeeze stable" upgrade? |
| 17:15.12 | jelly-home | PinkFreud: there are apt, aptitude and dpkg logs under /var/log to dig thru and see which versions had been there previously |
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| 17:15.35 | PinkFreud | thewanderer1: I don't believe it was. I'm reasonably certain I had a release version of squeeze on here. |
| 17:15.41 | PinkFreud | I can't be positive, though. |
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| 17:16.05 | _strog | hello people, this is my first time that I'm setting up 19" rack server and I need a little help here. My question is about the formfactors of these servers like "eATX" cases. Can I put a microATX board into such a eATX case |
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| 17:18.05 | _strog | ? |
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| 17:19.31 | Skaag | jelly-home: sure, ext3 as well, which one of them is more likely to survive corruption and come out the most "fixed" after an fsck? |
| 17:19.38 | thewanderer1 | _strog, yes (spare the I/O shield, which is oft troublesome), but a question like that hardly belongs here, try ##hardware for detail :P |
| 17:20.23 | joya | thewanderer1: is the discard option (when utilizing an SSD) also recommended for the SWAP partition? |
| 17:20.25 | jelly-home | Skaag: ext3 and ext2 are very stable, and their fsck too. ext4 is newer |
| 17:20.38 | _strog | thewanderer1:thanks for the tip |
| 17:20.55 | boudiccas | jelly-home: ext4 is now the default for wheezy |
| 17:21.18 | jelly-home | boudiccas: yes, it is. |
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| 17:21.30 | joya | wols: iptraf seems not to show me what applications cause what traffic. But it's nice to have heard of that tool anyway |
| 17:21.46 | thewanderer1 | joya, no, in fact swap does not support it as it's fs-specific (and swap is not ext4) |
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| 17:23.03 | joya | thewanderer1: of course... right ;) |
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| 17:25.12 | joya | how would you check whether apt-get uses the proxy set up in the variable HTTP_PROXY ? |
| 17:25.48 | thewanderer1 | hmmm, netstat -t ? |
| 17:25.59 | thewanderer1 | -tp might be in order, even |
| 17:26.06 | PinkFreud | dpkg.log.11.gz:2010-06-20 12:45:19 install linux-base <none> 2.6.32-15 |
| 17:26.20 | PinkFreud | this looks like it might have been a squeeze prerelease. |
| 17:26.21 | addaitech | hrm after upgrading, my howm is saying unconfigured in the aptitude log, how and where do I configure that? |
| 17:27.19 | thewanderer1 | PinkFreud, dpkg says Squeeze was released in 2011... yeah |
| 17:27.19 | PinkFreud | thewanderer1: looks like you may have nailed it. |
| 17:27.31 | PinkFreud | yeah, Feb 2011 |
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| 17:27.50 | PinkFreud | ok, so the next question is - how do I fix this? |
| 17:28.19 | jelly-home | PinkFreud: very carefully. Pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy", please. |
| 17:28.22 | PinkFreud | I have a usable console. X comes up fine. The moment xbmc starts, black screen, and the htpc becomes completely unresponsive. |
| 17:28.39 | jelly-home | and/or your /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 17:28.58 | PinkFreud | sure, one moment |
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| 17:29.41 | laddu | o/ Is there a way to load two icc profiles into xcalib? |
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| 17:30.51 | PinkFreud | http://pinkfreud.mirkwood.net/gimli/apt_cache_policy.txt |
| 17:31.04 | PinkFreud | http://pinkfreud.mirkwood.net/gimli/sources.list |
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| 17:32.07 | max999 | if i modprobe psmouse, my touchpad doesnt work fine (cant do regular movements it just tries to scroll or the cursor jumps a lot). if i do modprobe psmouse proto=imps, i can use it like a normal mouse. but i cant scroll with it then. any ideas how to get all features? :-) |
| 17:33.13 | KsM | max999: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics |
| 17:33.30 | max999 | i do have this package, purged and reinstalled it already too |
| 17:33.45 | xingu | max999: try proto=any just for a laugh. |
| 17:33.51 | KsM | have you configured it though, like synclient VertEdgeScroll=1 |
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| 17:33.59 | KsM | or something |
| 17:34.32 | max999 | synclient tells me to not find a synaptics device |
| 17:34.51 | PinkFreud | thewanderer1: if this is going to be too complex, I can just redo a borked wheezy install I have on another lv on here. |
| 17:35.06 | PinkFreud | might be better to get away from sbmc 10 anyway. :/ |
| 17:35.10 | PinkFreud | er, xbmc |
| 17:35.30 | thewanderer1 | PinkFreud, not sure what the problem is to start with - wiping out and reinstalling is always the easiest :P |
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| 17:36.08 | PinkFreud | you and me both. If I could get some errors from the kernel / mesa / X / ..., it'd be helpful. |
| 17:36.21 | PinkFreud | but this install isn't giving me a hell of a lot to work with. |
| 17:37.11 | thewanderer1 | PinkFreud, do you mean the machine experiences a hard freeze? have you tried magic sysrq? |
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| 17:38.46 | PinkFreud | thewanderer1: haven't quite figured out the sysrq sequence on this spare apple keyboard I'm using. this box doesn't normally have a keyboard connected. |
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| 17:39.05 | PinkFreud | still - the console appears to be completely unresponsive, keyboard included. |
| 17:39.23 | jelly-home | PinkFreud: does thr machine answer pings at that time |
| 17:39.34 | PinkFreud | magic sysrq doesn't work very well if the pc is ignoring keyboard input :/ |
| 17:39.38 | PinkFreud | jelly-home: nope. |
| 17:39.55 | jelly-home | well youcan always blindly try different kernel and xorg versions |
| 17:39.56 | PinkFreud | I've tried watching the logs from an ssh session as I brought X up |
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| 17:40.14 | jelly-home | !bdo xorg |
| 17:40.15 | dpkg | The backports.debian.org repository contains updated xorg components (in particular video drivers) for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze". Ask me about <bdo> to enable and use this repository. See http://x.debian.net/reference/squeeze-backports.html for information on the xorg backports. |
| 17:40.16 | PinkFreud | nothing. it bings X up, ssh stops responding. |
| 17:40.28 | jelly-home | !bdo kernel |
| 17:40.28 | dpkg | Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are at backports.debian.org. Ask me about <bdo> to modify your sources.list, then run «aptitude update». To install the current bdo kernel «aptitude -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'». |
| 17:40.51 | PinkFreud | hmmm. I do have 3.2 installed from backports |
| 17:40.55 | PinkFreud | I can try that. |
| 17:41.14 | jelly-home | what's the current `uname -r` sasy? |
| 17:41.21 | PinkFreud | not sure if I'm running X from squeeze or squeeze-backports, though |
| 17:41.24 | jelly-home | cannot type to save his life today |
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| 17:41.36 | PinkFreud | 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 17:41.48 | laddu | Is it possible to load two icc profiles for different monitors? |
| 17:41.53 | PinkFreud | I specifically booted into that kernel as I lack lirc modules for 3.2 right now. |
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| 17:42.06 | jelly-home | nod |
| 17:42.11 | max999 | if i modprobe my touchpad without the proto=imps, synclient can see it. but thats little use if i cant do movements :) |
| 17:42.23 | PinkFreud | still, lirc is nothing if I can't get X to work. :) |
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| 17:42.39 | dsagh | hello |
| 17:42.55 | dsagh | is there a way to install debian from source like gentoo? |
| 17:43.37 | jelly-home | 3.2 from backports should have lirc of its own |
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| 17:44.08 | xingu | max999: and if you use proto=all, what result |
| 17:44.08 | PinkFreud | jelly-home: good to note. |
| 17:44.21 | jelly-home | find /lib/modules/3.2.0-0.bpo* -name 'lirc*' |
| 17:44.25 | jelly-home | to verify |
| 17:44.38 | max999 | xingu, invalid argument ^^ |
| 17:45.02 | xingu | max999: sorry, proto=any |
| 17:45.24 | PinkFreud | ahh, yep. iirc, these differ from the lirc packages that 2.6.x use, though. no matter - it's something I can fix. |
| 17:45.54 | PinkFreud | ok, rebooting into 3.2 to see what happens |
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| 17:46.13 | max999 | xingu, the same like when i just load it without a proto option, so movement is not working (clicks and scrolling are) |
| 17:46.54 | xingu | max999: synclient -l and pastebin the results somewhere? |
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| 17:47.32 | max999 | xingu, http://pastie.org/5631759 |
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| 17:49.11 | xingu | max999: try synclient ClickPad=0 ? |
| 17:49.23 | dsagh | is there a way to install debian from source like gentoo? |
| 17:49.26 | PinkFreud | boots fine. let's see what happens when I start X (and xbmc) |
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| 17:49.58 | PinkFreud | ... and xbmc comes up. |
| 17:50.01 | max999 | xingu, didnt change anything :) |
| 17:50.05 | jelly-home | dsagh: not a serious one |
| 17:50.15 | Knaldgas | How to log ethernet traffic statistics (average throughput in and out of eth0) to syslog? I've been looking at vnstat, ipfm, ifstat and others, but they don't quite seem to be the right solution... |
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| 17:50.25 | PinkFreud | so it does appear to be a kernel-related issue. |
| 17:50.42 | max999 | xingu, well what it changes is that it thinks with ClickPad=0 that evry click is a rightclick |
| 17:51.15 | dsagh | jelly-home, so what are the debian-source repos for? |
| 17:51.39 | xingu | max999: if you click and drag do you get pointer motion? |
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| 17:52.11 | max999 | xingu, yes, somehow. not like it would move perfectly then but it does move :) |
| 17:52.14 | jelly-home | dsagh: a couple things. One of them is complying with DFSG licenses. |
| 17:52.27 | xingu | max999: ok; synclient TapButton1=1 |
| 17:52.30 | companion | [error] mod_fcgid: process /home/maffialegend/fcgi-bin/php5.fcgi(16735) exit(communication error), get unexpected signal 11 |
| 17:52.33 | companion | >:( |
| 17:52.41 | companion | any one knows what could be the problem? |
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| 17:53.19 | jelly-home | dsagh: the other is rebuilding _some_ of the software from source _when_ the debian builds are not ideal for your purpose |
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| 17:53.52 | max999 | xingu, didnt work. tried with button2 and 3 too, set them all to 0 again now |
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| 17:54.22 | dsagh | jelly-home, sorry but whats a DFSG license? |
| 17:54.34 | jelly-home | dsagh: if you want a recent example of what it takes to build the whole distro from source for a specific architecture, look at what raspbian |
| 17:54.38 | max999 | xingu, it seems to think im clicking with 2 buttons all time when i try to move, as its scrolls then |
| 17:54.42 | xingu | max999: ok; what I'm guessing is that your touchpad is getting set up as a clickpad with click-to-tap rather than touch-to-tap and that the other related settings are basically being oranised for that sort of universe. |
| 17:54.48 | jelly-home | !dfsg |
| 17:54.48 | dpkg | DFSG is the Debian Free Software Guidelines, which are explained at http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines . For a full list of DFSG-compatible/incompatible software licenses, see http://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses |
| 17:55.05 | PinkFreud | thewanderer1, jelly-home: thanks |
| 17:55.17 | xingu | max999: is this a macbook by any chance? |
| 17:55.22 | jelly-home | at what raspbian... did to bootstrap their own |
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| 17:55.28 | max999 | xingu, no :) acer aspire one |
| 17:55.47 | PinkFreud | I'll use 3.2 on squeeze until I get around to re-doing wheezy |
| 17:55.56 | max999 | xingu, i changed the ClickFinger settings and it improved a bit now.. not usable though |
| 17:56.10 | thewanderer1 | uh, I'm seeing serious sound tearing issues as in: looks like the audio is skipping every 0.2s or so to the last part of the buffer |
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| 17:56.35 | thewanderer1 | Rhythmbox's song counter got to 2:00 in what I could swear was 30 seconds |
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| 17:57.38 | PinkFreud | dsagh: why would you want to compile everything from source? |
| 17:57.47 | max999 | xingu, with proto exps its the same like with imps (movable but not scrollable) |
| 17:57.51 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: does a leaner player work better? mpg123 or mplayer? |
| 17:58.15 | Blue1 | i use guayadeque for mp3 player - very happy with it |
| 17:58.23 | PinkFreud | gentoo has a tunable build system to let you do that. debian, however, doesn't have anything like that. |
| 17:58.23 | thewanderer1 | jelly-home, so far I've tried totem... I'll try mplayer |
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| 17:58.51 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: sometihng not gstreamer and not gnome, perhaps |
| 17:59.09 | jhutchins_wk | thewanderer1: mplayer is pretty much the "it just works" standard. |
| 17:59.23 | thewanderer1 | jelly-home, GNOME sounds also seem weird... like there's a cut in the middle of the usual "DING!" |
| 17:59.53 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: which debian release? |
| 17:59.59 | thewanderer1 | Wheezy |
| 18:00.03 | ksuhku | max999, seen this? http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAcerOne#Touchpad |
| 18:00.08 | thewanderer1 | and yes, mplayer also produces the crap sound |
| 18:00.48 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: kill all alsa device using apps, see if it persists (/msg dpkg list alsa users) |
| 18:00.49 | dsagh | PinkFreud, jelly-home: for security measures. I know gentoo bootstraping stuff but I dont feel in the mood for playing with all that python stuff and I just have the idea (maybe Im wrong) that maybe that extra layer (python) could represent an extra security problem |
| 18:01.16 | PinkFreud | dsagh: I can't speak to that concern. |
| 18:01.18 | jelly-home | dsagh: what kind of security measures do you have in mind? |
| 18:01.59 | thewanderer1 | I don't think /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd is using my sound device... O.o |
| 18:02.30 | dsagh | jelly-home, let me answer your question with another... how can I know that my compiler isnt modified? |
| 18:02.51 | thewanderer1 | curiously enough, gvfsd was the *only* pid produced by the "alsa users" command... |
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| 18:03.03 | PinkFreud | dsagh: in debian, or gentoo? |
| 18:03.12 | PinkFreud | if the latter, you'd have to ask the gentoo folks. :) |
| 18:03.14 | jelly-home | dsagh: if you trust Debian, you can use debsums. |
| 18:03.52 | thewanderer1 | okay, typoed that one. pulseaudio. duh! |
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| 18:04.28 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: that one can be exited cleanly with a "pactl exit" command, but it's going to be restarted almost immediately by gnome |
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| 18:04.40 | dsagh | jelly-home, PinkFreud: sorry, can you explain to me what debsums are? |
| 18:05.06 | jelly-home | dsagh: file-based checksums of package contents. /msg dpkg debsums |
| 18:05.20 | thewanderer1 | so I suppose I'm looking for why pulseaudio skips audio, eh? |
| 18:05.41 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: "it's buggy crap" would be an answer, and restarting it sometimes helps |
| 18:06.38 | thewanderer1 | jelly-home, restarted the daemon, works great now. WTF pulseaudio... |
| 18:07.06 | jelly-home | the version in wheezy is good enough, good thing you're not on squeeze |
| 18:07.10 | dsagh | jelly-home, PinkFreud: debian page works without certs? |
| 18:07.26 | jelly-home | dsagh: what page? |
| 18:07.28 | thewanderer1 | jelly-home, "good enough" is not close to "requiring restart" in my book, sorry :P |
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| 18:07.47 | dsagh | jelly-home, PinkFreud: main page, download page... |
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| 18:08.10 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: the frequency of said restarts is what makes it good enough |
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| 18:09.24 | jhutchins_wk | pulseaudio: a solution to problems few people have that causes problems for the majority of users. |
| 18:09.36 | jelly-home | dsagh: all the downloads are checksummed and files with checksums are pgp signed |
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| 18:10.07 | jelly-home | dsagh: the main page is not forcing a redirection to https:// if that's what you're asking |
| 18:10.22 | jelly-home | dsagh: what's your actual goal? |
| 18:11.05 | jelly-home | dsagh: ie. what kind of exposure were you trying to prevent by building the whole distro from source? |
| 18:11.06 | thewanderer1 | jhutchins_wk, actually, I tried sending audio over a network with it. it failed miserably ;P |
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| 18:12.36 | sc_ | gnupg/gpgv updates in debian stable? |
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| 18:12.48 | jelly-home | dsagh: if it's certain build flags you need implemented, look at http://wiki.debian.org/HardeningWalkthrough |
| 18:14.44 | max999 | is it possible to just purge all the synclient configs and the whole package and reinstall it? |
| 18:15.23 | jhutchins_wk | max999: Yes. Use the purge option when removing. |
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| 18:16.25 | xingu | max999: also, just to note that proto= does not force a proto; it restricts the maximum protocol that will be probed for; if you want to see the probe result, cat /proc/bus/input/devices | less |
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| 18:17.06 | xingu | max999: my guess is that for you proto=imps == proto=exps because your clickpad proto is in fact synaptics. |
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| 18:19.58 | dsagh | jelly-home, PinkFreud: I need a highly secure system with quick disaster recovery rate |
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| 18:20.49 | jelly-home | dsagh: secure against what? Unplug the thing from ethernet and power, it's going to be secure as hell |
| 18:21.33 | thewanderer1 | dsagh, pretty sure "quick disaster recovery" is as far as ever possible from "complete recompile from sources" :P |
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| 18:21.52 | jelly-home | first you need to identify your attack surface and what you want to protect from |
| 18:22.07 | enyawix | has anyone installed testing on ssd? if so was the discard mount option offered? |
| 18:22.31 | xingu | jelly-home: won't be secure against water, theft, or fire |
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| 18:22.38 | jelly-home | hush :-D |
| 18:22.39 | thewanderer1 | enyawix, AFAIK, the installer has no knowledge whether the drive is an SSD or not (no special code to handle this case) |
| 18:23.10 | thewanderer1 | in fact, I did install wheezy from the netinst a week ago or so, and there was nothing about discard by default |
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| 18:23.23 | enyawix | thewanderer1: could the option be added to the menu? |
| 18:23.49 | dsagh | jelly-home, PinkFreud, thewanderer1: I can have a precompiled repo for that, I think... what can you tell me about developing this stuff without phisical security? |
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| 18:24.28 | thewanderer1 | enyawix, you could ask the debian-installer mailing list, or submit a bug report against the installer |
| 18:24.31 | jelly-home | debian mirrors are a precompiled repo most people use, dsagh |
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| 18:25.06 | nkuttler | dsagh: there is no security without physical security |
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| 18:25.49 | enyawix | thewanderer1: would that go against the policy about adding stuff to a frozen distro? |
| 18:26.00 | max999 | xingu, i purged xserver-xorg-input-synaptics and reloaded the module, still no difference. well, how about i just use the proto=imps option, can i do some workaround to scroll then? like pressing a button while moving the mouse? |
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| 18:27.02 | thewanderer1 | enyawix, could be hard to convince the installer team, but AFAIK d-i is not frozen in the classical sense and the change is trivial, so maybe... |
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| 18:28.08 | ksuhku | max999, seen this? http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAcerOne#Touchpad |
| 18:28.50 | max999 | ksuhku, yes, they screwed my system pretty hard with the hint to install gnome-control-center :-) |
| 18:29.27 | max999 | but that is fixed already |
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| 18:33.02 | jebb_ | Im having some trouble seting up dnsmasq for dhcp server on debain squeeze 6 |
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| 18:33.21 | xomrk | in how many months whezzy will be stable? |
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| 18:34.09 | jelly-home | xomrk: no one knows |
| 18:34.20 | jelly-home | maybe 3, maybe 9 |
| 18:34.24 | xomrk | ok ty |
| 18:34.57 | dsagh | jelly-home, PinkFreud, thewanderer1: Ok, another question please... how can I check integrity of compiler and related tools without hash/gpg? |
| 18:35.20 | jelly-home | dsagh: "not easily" |
| 18:35.23 | PinkFreud | dsagh: you can't. |
| 18:35.50 | PinkFreud | that's what those tools are meant for - to verify integrity. |
| 18:35.51 | jelly-home | [ObOnReflectionsOfTrustingTrustLink] |
| 18:36.16 | thewanderer1 | dsagh, if you're worried about your system losing integrity, maybe you should pursue integrity checking methods like STEALTH or Intel IMA augmented by the TPM? |
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| 18:36.38 | jelly-home | dsagh: http://www.ece.cmu.edu/~ganger/712.fall02/papers/p761-thompson.pdf |
| 18:36.45 | jelly-home | there, I did :-) |
| 18:37.08 | PinkFreud | thewanderer1: that's a good idea, but he has to trust the integrity of his installed system first. |
| 18:37.51 | dsagh | jelly-home, PinkFreud, thewanderer1: I was just putting in the situation of... I mean, how do I know if Im not being redirected to a download page where someone tampered source, compiled it and post it with md5/gpg? |
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| 18:39.09 | jelly-home | dsagh: you can get the gpg key from a public keyserver, and establish a chain of trust from your keychain to the one iso image checksum file is signed with |
| 18:39.27 | jelly-home | ... just like any other gpg key |
| 18:39.34 | sarkis | how much does having noexec on /tmp really help? i am running into apt issues so i have to either get rid of noexec or modify apt... leaning toward the former |
| 18:40.05 | abrotman | why did you make it noexec to begin with ? |
| 18:40.11 | sarkis | i know it's meant to be a security measure, but is it worth it? |
| 18:40.21 | sarkis | actually it's a VPS and was provisioned this way |
| 18:40.34 | sarkis | yea i should just get rid of noexec |
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| 18:41.50 | PinkFreud | noexec can help protect against an attacker dumping, and running, executables from /tmp |
| 18:42.18 | thewanderer1 | actually, isn't depending on executable /tmp considered to be a bug in a package which does so? |
| 18:42.55 | abrotman | you can change the TMP IIRC |
| 18:42.58 | sarkis | yea |
| 18:42.59 | jelly-home | dsagh: If, however, you do not trust your distro, be it a binary or a source based one, you can't bootstrap from its sources or use its toolchain and you're basically fucked |
| 18:43.01 | sarkis | that was the other option |
| 18:43.12 | sarkis | there's some fixes from apt side |
| 18:43.38 | abrotman | "fix" |
| 18:43.56 | jelly-home | sarkis: those typically amount to automating suspension and reinstatement of the noexec mount option |
| 18:44.37 | dsagh | jelly-home, PinkFreud, thewanderer1: I can just review sources, but review the entire toolchain is just... I think I just cant do that |
| 18:44.39 | jelly-home | dpkg is inherently flawed with its fixed place in /tmp used for unpacking control |
| 18:44.39 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, jelly-home |
| 18:44.58 | PinkFreud | lol |
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| 18:45.40 | jelly-home | dsagh: do you, ever, in practice, review source files? |
| 18:46.32 | thewanderer1 | dsagh, if you don't trust the website, you could order the DVDs or so... or, best, get the install media from a trusted source. how do you verify other OSes, anyway? there are no guarantees anywhere, whatsoever - there's only trust... |
| 18:46.38 | jelly-home | dsagh: I still don't have a clear picture of the problem you're tying to solve |
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| 18:48.59 | dsagh | jelly-home, PinkFreud, thewanderer1: I think I can start with a very very simple system at first but toolchain is stopping me, I just out of resources for that |
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| 18:50.35 | jelly-home | I wouldn't worry about it with a budget lower than 7 figures. |
| 18:50.40 | sgnut | which is the best program in linux to watch DVB-T? |
| 18:50.55 | EmleyMoor | sgnut: mythtv was good for me... |
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| 18:51.16 | sgnut | EmleyMoor: I'm looking forward something more simple :-) |
| 18:51.52 | EmleyMoor | sgnut: mplayer usable... |
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| 18:57.30 | XRS1 | vlc will play anything |
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| 18:57.55 | nkuttler | vlc will play anything it plays |
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| 18:58.37 | Yukikaze | XRS1: semi decently |
| 18:59.25 | sarkis | hmmm this is strange, i get a mount permission denied? how's this possible i run apt-get as root |
| 18:59.28 | sarkis | mount: permission denied |
| 18:59.31 | sarkis | E: Problem executing scripts DPkg::Pre-Invoke 'mount -o remount,exec /tmp' |
| 18:59.49 | wols | something might be open on /tmp? |
| 19:00.45 | sgnut | EmleyMoor: yes, I know mplayer but it is too much simple... it doesn't have a interface to change the channel and I dunno if it has a shortkey to change channels |
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| 19:02.17 | sarkis | wols: all i see in tmp is an ssh-xxxx folder |
| 19:02.19 | Yukikaze | sgnut: which channel |
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| 19:02.26 | Yukikaze | audio, video, sub? |
| 19:02.36 | sarkis | and i am ofcourse ssh'd in the server trying to run apt-get commands ;) |
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| 19:03.07 | sgnut | Yukikaze: dvb-t |
| 19:03.33 | Yukikaze | ah |
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| 19:04.09 | Yukikaze | idk anything about that |
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| 19:04.23 | Octoj | when watching live streams (over vlc or so) and experiencing problems, how can I find out whether its the station's or my connection's fault? |
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| 19:04.56 | thewanderer1 | how exactly is "the station" different than "your connection"? |
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| 19:05.30 | ompaul | thewanderer1: station = upstream and well work out the rest ;-) |
| 19:05.42 | thewanderer1 | ompaul, no, I mean packet wise ;P |
| 19:05.42 | Octoj | ^^ :) |
| 19:06.19 | Octoj | thewanderer1: I don't mean packet wise ;) |
| 19:06.20 | ompaul | thewanderer1: the transit between the two is what the OP as not alluded to, but you may be negating |
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| 19:07.17 | thewanderer1 | a better question would be "does this happen for everyone or just me" (solution: ask somebody else who watches it!), or maybe "is my connection being unstable" (run another transfer side-by-side and find out) |
| 19:08.01 | thewanderer1 | or it could be the link between the station and you as an unlikely, but possible, option :P |
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| 19:08.05 | ompaul | or make sure you are not running other transfers at the same time - install jnettop and check the setup on your box, but that does not mean your lan is traffic free |
| 19:08.06 | Octoj | thewanderer1: I know that I could other people if they also experience this problem but I am looking for a solution that is more elegant |
| 19:08.31 | ompaul | Octoj: sorry, testing is always binary and crude |
| 19:09.00 | Octoj | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:09.33 | thewanderer1 | Octoj, try running a ping in the background (say, with a 0.2s interval) and see if you're getting any drop / jitter / etc. |
| 19:10.16 | Octoj | thewanderer1: I am running `ping -c 180 debian.org' |
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| 19:10.29 | _EBK_ | hello, I was using a Logitech, Inc. Webcam C120 with the application "motion" just fine. Then a reboot occured, and webcam is no longer found. dmesg reports it initializes the drive when plugged in. Camera light never comes on and "motion" doesn't find /dev/video0 |
| 19:10.58 | Octoj | ompaul: what do you mean with `testing is always binary and crude'? |
| 19:11.26 | _EBK_ | I was wondering if anyone has this same webcam, and if they ran into this problem too? |
| 19:12.03 | Octoj | thewanderer1: ah sorry, you said with 0.2s interval ;) |
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| 19:12.32 | psycode | how does union mout work ? |
| 19:12.34 | ompaul | Octoj: it will always answer, but it will be either yes or no, to a question, up to and including is this the trend I should be looking at, install tracepath and run that see what happens to packets leaving you and going there - AND install - jnettop and make sure you are not doing something you shouldn't be doing and making the link inefficient |
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| 19:13.16 | ompaul | Octoj: regardless of the required question, it will answer the one you asked ;-) |
| 19:13.20 | psycode | !dpkg union mount |
| 19:14.34 | Octoj | ompaul, thewanderer1: give me some time :) |
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| 19:15.59 | ompaul | Octoj: I told you two things to do so don't demand time of me, at least let me know you have done the things requested and what you think they are, then pop the output into http://paste.debian.net (not some other random bin), also ... thewanderer1 suggested -i 0.2 which you seem to have ignored |
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| 19:16.40 | Octoj | thewanderer1: `ping -c 180 -i 0.1 debian.org' gives: 180 packets transmitted, 180 received, 0% packet loss, time 18042ms |
| 19:16.42 | Octoj | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 14.513/15.407/22.392/1.396 ms |
| 19:16.59 | Octoj | (stream was running while pinging) |
| 19:17.15 | thewanderer1 | Octoj, that kind of spread looks quite normal, nothing weird going on there |
| 19:17.44 | Octoj | ompaul: did I waste your time by telling that I need time? |
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| 19:18.14 | Octoj | ompaul: I just meant that I need to read your older posts before going on to newer ones... |
| 19:18.54 | ompaul | Octoj: smart question is smart. Did I consider your question, smart? I'll see when you post my name and paste.debian.net as will thewanderer1 and I +1 thewanderer1's comment |
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| 19:20.58 | Octoj | ompaul: I don't understand your last post at all `smart question is smart' ... ?? |
| 19:21.18 | ompaul | Octoj: have you got your information for paste.debian.net yet? |
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| 19:21.32 | ompaul | ignore that point if you don't understand it |
| 19:21.59 | Octoj | yes, I always post stuff there (if it is more than 3-4 lines or so) |
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| 19:22.11 | enyawix | what do you enter under package in a bug report for the cdrom installer package/ |
| 19:22.15 | ompaul | wonders where the post is ... |
| 19:22.34 | ompaul | enyawix: it's the debian installer |
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| 19:22.45 | ompaul | then give context in your report |
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| 19:22.52 | ompaul | i.e. which version etc |
| 19:23.07 | Octoj | ompaul: didn't I tell that I first need to put together what you two instructed me within the past 5 minutes or so? |
| 19:23.25 | ompaul | Octoj: and you keep commenting and not doing it ... |
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| 19:24.12 | enyawix | ompaul: error "debian installer is not a valid package name." |
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| 19:24.53 | enyawix | ompaul: do i use "other" |
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| 19:25.55 | ompaul | enyawix: check this out http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting#findpkgver |
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| 19:33.30 | ompaul | Octoj: where is this pastebin? |
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| 19:34.10 | ompaul | !ops Alenah seems to have issues maintaining a connection |
| 19:34.11 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: ompaul complains about: Alenah seems to have issues maintaining a connection |
| 19:34.30 | ompaul | has little to be complaining about ;-) |
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| 19:34.34 | Octoj | ompaul, thewanderer1: (I hope I did more or less what you instructed me to do...) http://paste.debian.net/222309/ |
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| 19:35.30 | ompaul | Octoj: that ping looks ok, the jnettop was for you to inspect - and I'm looking for tracepath |
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| 19:35.44 | ompaul | well if you are going to censor it - you are looking for some kind of bad ho |
| 19:35.48 | ompaul | hop that is |
| 19:36.11 | Octoj | ah mom for tracepath... |
| 19:36.51 | Octoj | ompaul: iputils-tracepath ? |
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| 19:37.13 | ompaul | that's the one |
| 19:37.37 | Octoj | with what options shall I run it? |
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| 19:37.58 | ompaul | just a tracepath to the box if we see something funny we might ask you to alter it |
| 19:38.29 | ompaul | feels Octoj should do networking 1.0.2 ;-) |
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| 19:39.07 | plovs | i have a debian server with a wrongly configured locale (cannot change), sshd pushes its locale to me when I use git, can i somehow ignore the wrong locale |
| 19:39.13 | Octoj | ompaul: is this an application or a hint at my exaggerating networking xp? |
| 19:39.35 | ompaul | neither - this is because you suggested some options |
| 19:39.42 | hellyeah | can you tell me good source.list ? |
| 19:39.43 | ompaul | or that you might use some |
| 19:39.54 | Octoj | hellno |
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| 19:41.00 | Octoj | tracepath http://presstv-i.akamaihd.net/hls/live/203651/presstv/presstv/presstv.m3u8 |
| 19:41.02 | wilmaaaah | hellyeah: what do you want to change? |
| 19:41.07 | Octoj | gethostbyname2: Unknown host |
| 19:41.28 | hellyeah | i dont know there are a lot of source.list on some web site |
| 19:41.44 | ompaul | Octoj: why are you including http and after .net |
| 19:42.01 | Octoj | !tell hellyeah about sources.list |
| 19:42.07 | wilmaaaah | hellyeah: see, if you don't know why you need to add a certain repo best is to just not add it |
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| 19:42.27 | shirish | is there a way to get listing of the files inside a .deb package before it's installed. |
| 19:43.01 | JoeHazzers | i seem to have a sit0 interface, and it seems to have come from nowhere. how can i get rid of it? |
| 19:43.05 | shirish | I'm aware of dpkg -L $PACKAGENAME after the package has been installed in the system, I'm looking for something which does it before. |
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| 19:43.17 | Octoj | ompaul: http://paste.debian.net/222316/ |
| 19:43.18 | PinkFreud | oh hell. |
| 19:43.25 | abrotman | JoeHazzers: is it causing you problems? |
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| 19:43.41 | PinkFreud | *there's* the problem with lirc and the kernel from backports. |
| 19:43.44 | JoeHazzers | yes. the problem is that it's useless and shouldn't be there. |
| 19:43.51 | abrotman | ok |
| 19:43.55 | Octoj | ompaul: http://paste.debian.net/222318/ |
| 19:44.02 | PinkFreud | ... 3.x's lirc drivers require lirc 0.9, which squeeze doesn't have. |
| 19:44.04 | PinkFreud | http://lists.debian.org/debian-backports/2012/04/msg00074.html |
| 19:44.37 | hellyeah | my main question is actually |
| 19:44.57 | PinkFreud | awesome. so my choices are a 2.6.32 kernel with completely borked KMS, a 3.2 kernel with working KMS and non-functional lirc, or reinstalling wheezy. |
| 19:45.03 | hellyeah | do you have some unofficial debian wheezy guide like unofficial guid ubuntu 10.10 fopr example, |
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| 19:45.20 | ompaul | Octoj: do that again please |
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| 19:45.33 | Octoj | ompaul: http://paste.debian.net/222318/ |
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| 19:45.49 | PinkFreud | yay. not. |
| 19:46.03 | k-t | shirish: apt-file |
| 19:46.18 | shirish | k-t: thanx, that did the trick. |
| 19:46.36 | wilmaaaah | hellyeah: you really have to be more specific |
| 19:46.51 | PinkFreud | sadly, a squeeze prerelease was working fine on here for a couple of years. |
| 19:47.05 | Octoj | ompaul: pastebin is down for me |
| 19:47.05 | wilmaaaah | hellyeah: there's the debian handbook |
| 19:47.26 | PinkFreud | so of course a release install of squeeze is completely borked. |
| 19:47.30 | hellyeah | may be something like that http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Quantal |
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| 19:47.51 | ompaul | Octoj: so nothing looks too bad |
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| 19:48.16 | Octoj | ompaul: does debian's pastebin answer you? |
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| 19:48.50 | Octoj | ompaul: I can't reach the pastebin anymore :( |
| 19:49.07 | ompaul | no |
| 19:49.17 | ompaul | Octoj: the internet is falling apart |
| 19:49.36 | Octoj | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:49.58 | wilmaaaah | hellyeah: there are debian wikis out there, too, and forums, and literature |
| 19:50.17 | hellyeah | hmm |
| 19:50.42 | Octoj | who is responsible for Debian's official pastebin? |
| 19:51.13 | ompaul | Octoj: the webmaster - ahh if it is down in 5 mins I'll pop them a mail |
| 19:51.16 | ompaul | as can anyone |
| 19:51.20 | ompaul | iirc |
| 19:51.22 | ompaul | I could be wrong |
| 19:51.27 | wilmaaaah | hellyeah: try wiki,debian.org for starters |
| 19:51.37 | enyawix | Octoj: why not use your apache as past bin? |
| 19:51.40 | hellyeah | sure |
| 19:51.46 | Octoj | hellyeah: also try the packages debian-reference and debian-handbook |
| 19:51.56 | hellyeah | yeah thanks |
| 19:51.58 | Octoj | enyawix: don't got :) |
| 19:52.40 | ompaul | Octoj: actually not webmaster@debioan I have it ready to fire juste need to test it from somewhere else |
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| 19:53.13 | Octoj | I am connecting from Germany and Debian's pastebin doesn't work for me... |
| 19:53.16 | Tejp | Guys, I can't get Samba to work. I have a samba-server on my Debian system. I can see all the folders, but is keeps on asking for password, even if I entered it correctly. I can even acces the print$ folder just fine. |
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| 19:53.54 | dscape | hey |
| 19:54.01 | ompaul | Octoj: reported |
| 19:54.14 | ompaul | Octoj: can't touch it from a couple of countries |
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| 19:54.37 | Octoj | ?? why so many quitting at once? incident? |
| 19:54.38 | dscape | can anyone help me understand how I can integrate this (https://github.com/bumptech/stud) into Ubuntu? |
| 19:54.40 | enyawix | Octoj: apt-get install apache2 I can help with port forward if you need |
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| 19:55.03 | Octoj | enyawix: no thanks :) I don't want to run apache on my laptop |
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| 19:55.44 | ompaul | Octoj: so I don't see a reason for that thing being juttery, you might like to connect to the correct feed not the alkami feed it after all that is a massive redirect tool |
| 19:55.49 | dscape | but have no idea how to do it |
| 19:55.50 | Octoj | enyawix: but since you speak about ports. All my ports are opened, shouldn't be a problem with GNU/Linux right? |
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| 19:56.03 | ompaul | !ubuntu |
| 19:56.04 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 19:56.04 | debian-no0b__ | Hi guys |
| 19:56.11 | floogy | Hi, what does it mean if a harddisk is reported by smartmontools SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED |
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| 19:56.21 | floogy | but got 512 bad sectors |
| 19:56.25 | Octoj | ompaul: do you have another stream for Press TV live stream? |
| 19:56.35 | Octoj | *I mean URL |
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| 19:57.00 | ompaul | dscape: ^^ we don't do it, they change stuff we don't know what they do we could give you bad advice, and you wouldn't ask in #RedHat if you had a #SuSE issue |
| 19:57.01 | debian-no0b__ | I just installed `stud` (https://github.com/bumptech/stud) and it includes this `debian` folder. I don't really know much about debian, wondering if someone knows how I can add stud to `init.d` using these scripts. |
| 19:57.14 | floogy | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:57.14 | floogy | 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0008 228 228 000 Old_age Offline - 256 |
| 19:57.19 | ompaul | Octoj: no, and it is only a theory but anyway :) |
| 19:57.20 | debian-no0b__ | hi ompaul sorry my connection dropped on dscape |
| 19:57.24 | debian-no0b__ | thanks for the advice |
| 19:57.26 | ompaul | Octoj: nothing looks bad |
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| 19:57.39 | sirToast | floogy: harddisks have spare space. if it finds bad sectors it will just reallocate the bad space to spare space |
| 19:57.51 | Octoj | ompaul: you mean the stream works well for you? |
| 19:57.56 | enyawix | Octoj: not the best idea; too many people want to do harm because they have no life |
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| 19:58.25 | ompaul | Octoj: no but the numbers are below what is understood to be a reasonable number for interactive / youtube |
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| 19:58.52 | floogy | sirToast, is it safe to use it for a short time to get my data off a nas to build a raid in that nas, and copy the data back to the nas after the raid is created? |
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| 19:59.47 | debian-no0b__ | ompaul: its not a redhat issue, im in ubuntu |
| 19:59.58 | debian-no0b__ | maybe you didnt mean dscape? |
| 20:00.11 | sirToast | floogy: smartctl --test=long /dev/hdx |
| 20:00.12 | DeltaHeavy | I installed Apache2, MySQL, and PHP5 on my Debian box. When I run <?php die(); ?> it does nothing at all when it should halt execution of the entire page. Anybody know why this is? It is suhoisen maybe? |
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| 20:00.18 | DeltaHeavy | Nothing in PHP works |
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| 20:00.20 | sirToast | floogy: run a long test. see how that goes |
| 20:00.26 | floogy | the tests are all failing |
| 20:00.37 | ompaul | debian-no0b__: and we don't do ubuntu - just like redhat don't do suse |
| 20:00.49 | floogy | but fsck -ccf is fine |
| 20:01.19 | sirToast | the self tests are failing? |
| 20:01.25 | floogy | yes |
| 20:01.35 | sirToast | don't trust the drive |
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| 20:01.47 | floogy | ok, thank you. |
| 20:01.48 | sirToast | get your data off of it |
| 20:02.00 | DeltaHeavy | Also anybody know what apt-get autoremove wants me to remove almost every package on this machine? |
| 20:02.16 | floogy | It's just formatted with mkfs.ext4 -cc |
| 20:02.26 | DeltaHeavy | Wait sorry it IS installed =X nvm I'm going to get myself sorted out a little bit more maybe |
| 20:02.43 | Octoj | ompaul: thanks for all your time. At the moment, the stream is working perfectly for me |
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| 20:02.52 | bennypr0fane | Hi, would anyone happen to know where I can find proprietary firmware for a Trust bluetooth dongle? Here's a quote from /usr/share/doc/bluez/README.Debian.gz (I'm using Wheezy): "Some USB dongles require firmware to make them work: bluez-firmware from the "non-free" section provides the required firmware." So, where is that non-free section of bluez fiormware? |
| 20:02.52 | ompaul | !ubuntu-irc |
| 20:02.53 | dpkg | This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu |
| 20:03.25 | Octoj | baah... spyware Ubuntu... |
| 20:03.26 | floogy | sirToast, I don't understant the resume of smartmontools: SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED |
| 20:03.27 | ompaul | debian-no0b__: ^^ that is for you there - the other was for the other party who had asked a similar question |
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| 20:03.35 | debian-no0b__ | thanks ompaul – this seems like something that can be solved with dpkg however |
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| 20:03.42 | debian-no0b__ | i asked there and it doesnt seem like no one knows |
| 20:03.43 | ompaul | debian-no0b__: and we don't do ubuntu |
| 20:03.52 | wilmaaaah | bennypr0fane: you'll have to aff non-free rpositories to your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 20:03.56 | sirToast | floogy: if the self tests fail I'd just get my data off the drive |
| 20:03.56 | ompaul | debian-no0b__: please take it to the appropriate channel |
| 20:04.01 | wilmaaaah | *add |
| 20:04.23 | cybrhuman | what does the B and BB flags in aptitude mean? |
| 20:04.23 | floogy | sirToast, yes you're right it's safer. |
| 20:04.30 | bennypr0fane | here is my forum-thread: http://debianforum.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=140172&p=913182#p913182 |
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| 20:04.55 | floogy | sirToast, no risk, no fun ;) |
| 20:05.00 | bennypr0fane | wilmaaaah: non-free is in my sources list. then how to get that firmware? |
| 20:05.17 | bennypr0fane | oops, sorry, I forgot I made that post in the german forum... |
| 20:05.22 | pmo | Do any of you know how i get terminator to load chromium instead of iceweasel? i tried with "update-alternatives --config x-www-browser" but that only seems to work with everything else |
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| 20:05.40 | wilmaaaah | bennypr0fane: apt-cache search <name of package> |
| 20:05.47 | abrotman | wtf is terminator? |
| 20:06.05 | wilmaaaah | bennypr0fane: then install it |
| 20:06.17 | bennypr0fane | I don't know which package I'll need |
| 20:06.17 | abrotman | bennypr0fane: did you aptitude update after adding non-free? |
| 20:06.24 | bennypr0fane | abrotman yes |
| 20:06.33 | enyawix | abrotman: device at end of scsi chain |
| 20:06.39 | floogy | Assumed, that I'll copy my date just once on that drive, build the raid and copy it back then. Will a read error be reported in the dmesg/kern.log? Ok that's non sense because idf so my ass will be in trouble.... |
| 20:06.47 | TalkSoup | HaHaHa! It seems impossible a virtual file could cause this much problems, but I seem to,ve fixed it. |
| 20:06.57 | abrotman | enyawix: whowha? |
| 20:07.07 | bennypr0fane | I added non-free pretty much right after installation |
| 20:07.09 | abrotman | enyawix: oh, not funny |
| 20:07.12 | abrotman | :) |
| 20:07.12 | floogy | sirToast, ŝ/date/data/ s/idf/if/ |
| 20:07.28 | abrotman | enyawix: i haven't thought about scsi termination since i setup alphas |
| 20:07.28 | ompaul | aptitude why does not perform full dependency resolution; it only displays direct relationships between packages. For instance, if A requires B, C requires D, and B and C conflict, |
| 20:07.28 | wilmaaaah | bennypr0fane: apt-cache search bluez-firmware |
| 20:07.36 | abrotman | or just aptitude search bluez |
| 20:07.38 | ompaul | bennypr0fane: ^^ see that comment from the man page |
| 20:07.54 | bennypr0fane | ompaul which one? |
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| 20:08.03 | ompaul | cybrhuman: aptitude why does not perform full dependency resolution; it only displays direct relationships between packages. For instance, if A requires B, C requires D, and B and C conflict, |
| 20:08.08 | sirToast | floogy: the drive may or may not fail on you. think of it this way: if you load it heavily by copying data in/out for hours it's more likely it will fail right then |
| 20:08.12 | ompaul | bennypr0fane: sorry got confused bad typo |
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| 20:08.29 | Octoj | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMHetg34WPc |
| 20:08.47 | abrotman | Octoj: you meant to paste that somewhere else, right ? |
| 20:08.48 | pmo | i solved it |
| 20:09.10 | sirToast | floogy: there's just no guarantee with hard disks. they may fail when they're new or go on for 20 years. there's just no telling. but if smart tests fail then that's your chance to save your data before it gets serious |
| 20:09.13 | floogy | sirToast, yes, I'll search for another temporary drive, maybe a frind got one drive spare. |
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| 20:09.30 | floogy | s/frind/friend/ |
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| 20:10.18 | floogy | sirToast, fortunately I already got my data safed. |
| 20:10.27 | abrotman | no need to msg me |
| 20:10.29 | kenro | Anyway, still no luck on that kernel. Blender refuses to launch in 2.6, the system locks in 3.2. Compiling a 3.8 right now. |
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| 20:11.22 | Octoj | wasn't needed, but appropriate |
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| 20:13.20 | Octoj | the pastebin is working again for me |
| 20:13.21 | kenro | Can anyone offer advice on my problem? I'm down to using emacs and still can't use my apps. |
| 20:13.51 | kenro | Gotta be the kernel. Not the netbook. |
| 20:14.35 | bennypr0fane | that wasn't it. got bluez-firmware already installed. are you sure that also contains the proprietary ones? 'cause my bluetooth dongle is still not even being acknowledged -let alone recognized... |
| 20:15.17 | abrotman | did you reload the driver after gettin gthe firmware? |
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| 20:16.49 | bennypr0fane | abrotman no. how do i do that? |
| 20:17.09 | abrotman | modprobe -r <modulename> ; modprobve <modulename> |
| 20:17.11 | kenro | Anyone using kernel > 2.6 on a netbook? |
| 20:17.23 | bennypr0fane | note that I already had the firmware |
| 20:17.30 | bennypr0fane | installed before coming here |
| 20:17.38 | abrotman | kenro: i can try it if you want .. my netbook is put away right now |
| 20:17.50 | abrotman | kenro: do you use binary drivers for nvidia/ati / |
| 20:17.54 | abrotman | ? |
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| 20:18.29 | bennypr0fane | abrotman modulename would be "bluez-firmware", in this case? |
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| 20:18.47 | kenro | abrotman: Radeon vidset, I think I installed rad pkg... |
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| 20:19.09 | kenro | I verify... |
| 20:19.12 | abrotman | bennypr0fane: no |
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| 20:21.31 | sy_ | can i make /usr a link to another physical drive ? |
| 20:21.42 | bennypr0fane | abrotman sorry, what can lead me to the name of that module? |
| 20:21.46 | abrotman | sy_: yes |
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| 20:21.53 | Octoj | best question ever: how do I format a partition to nfs? |
| 20:21.54 | abrotman | bennypr0fane: lsmod .. look through the list |
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| 20:22.00 | abrotman | Octoj: you don't |
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| 20:22.10 | Octoj | abrotman: what don't I ? |
| 20:22.20 | abrotman | what or why? |
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| 20:22.40 | TalkSoup | abrotman: sorry accident say anything while I was gone? |
| 20:22.51 | abrotman | TalkSoup: accident? |
| 20:23.01 | abrotman | oh .. kenro |
| 20:23.14 | abrotman | kenro: you were verifying something about your video card |
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| 20:23.50 | Octoj | 21:24:42 < abrotman> Octoj: you don't ## what don't I ? |
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| 20:24.59 | sy_ | she kn noh eyahandle n' mo' |
| 20:25.00 | abrotman | Octoj: you don't format a filesystem as NFS |
| 20:25.02 | TalkSoup | Well, forgot that talksoup is config, now gotta wait til Kenro gets cleared. Actually, I have no graphic pkg man now. wtf? What's the apt search c-line? |
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| 20:26.24 | michaelis | Hi. I'm using squeeze. My usb ports stop working after suspend. Any ideas? I have the latest bios installed. |
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| 20:28.35 | bennypr0fane | abrotman: there are several modules that are /might be related to bluetooth. how would I find which one's for me? maybe sth. with the "used by" -numbers? man page doesn't mention it (plus FYI man pages are in a language I barely understand, so telling me to read the man page is hardly ever helpful, sorry about that). lsmod list tha modules currently loaded, yes? Couldn't it be that the module I need is *not loaded* right now? |
| 20:29.44 | bennypr0fane | ups, there, man page does mention it - still I don't know what "use count" means |
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| 20:30.38 | TalkSoup | wallchan, test |
| 20:30.40 | ksuhku | michaelis, do lsmod when the ports work, then suspend, do lsmod again and compare |
| 20:31.10 | TalkSoup | brb |
| 20:31.14 | abrotman | bennypr0fane: lspci -k |
| 20:31.24 | abrotman | if it's pci |
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| 20:31.31 | bennypr0fane | what? |
| 20:31.53 | bennypr0fane | the bt dongle is usb |
| 20:33.31 | ksuhku | michaelis, the xxdiff package comes handy when doing the comparison |
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| 20:33.57 | michaelis | ksuhku, Thanks. I'll try that |
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| 20:39.06 | Mkenro | abrotman: Sorry for the interuption. |
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| 20:42.43 | Mkenro | Abe? |
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| 20:44.13 | abrotman | what? |
| 20:44.20 | Mkenro | bogomeps, guess I blew another one. |
| 20:44.24 | Mkenro | wait |
| 20:44.24 | bennypr0fane | abrotman here's my lspci -k: http://pastie.org/5632353 |
| 20:44.44 | Mkenro | abrotman: What am I looking for? To instal, or not? |
| 20:44.56 | abrotman | Mkenro: what? |
| 20:45.23 | abrotman | bennypr0fane: see anything bluetooth in there? |
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| 20:46.36 | Mkenro | abrotman: GNUstep nick tag getting to you? sorry. I'm the one asking about the broken kernels. |
| 20:46.38 | abrotman | bennypr0fane: or just reboot |
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| 20:46.56 | abrotman | Mkenro: i asked if you were using binary-only drivers ... you still haven't answered me |
| 20:47.34 | Node_214 | Hello. I got a vps running debian 6. And i want to disable users that are not root from running a specific command. how may i do that? |
| 20:48.03 | bennypr0fane | abrotman nothing. rebooting. |
| 20:48.04 | Mkenro | Patience. Not malice. Okay?? I'm using only the .debs. If that's binary... |
| 20:49.34 | Node_214 | Anyone able to help me? |
| 20:49.43 | jelly-home | Node_214: you could use chmod to take away executable permissions, but if the binary is packaged, a user could get it somewhere else |
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| 20:50.40 | mikehaas763 | Hello, I'm using vagrant. I setup vagrant to give my debian 6 box a static IP. I see in /etc/network/interfaces it did add information for this for the device eth1. However when I run ifconfig I see no eth1 device. Any idea what may be happening? |
| 20:50.48 | Node_214 | jelly-home: i want to disable 'w' and 'who' command. Any idea how i can do that? |
| 20:51.06 | KsM | chmod 700? |
| 20:51.34 | jelly-home | Node_214: also, if it is packaged, you will want to use dpkg-statoverride instead of chmod |
| 20:52.00 | Node_214 | jelly-home: i have no idae if its packaged or not, 'w' and 'who' is installed by default. |
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| 20:52.16 | KsM | I think they're in coreutils |
| 20:52.38 | jelly-home | Node_214: /usr/bin/w and /usr/bin/who are indeed packaged. |
| 20:53.05 | jelly-home | this means a use could ftp their own copy from somewhere, chmod and run it |
| 20:53.20 | bennypr0fane | abrotman: this is lspci -k after reboot: http://pastie.org/5632413 this is lsmod: http://pastie.org/5632407 |
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| 20:53.43 | abrotman | bennypr0fane: still not working? |
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| 20:54.11 | jelly-home | Node_214: you'd use something like dpkg-statoverride --add root root 0700 /usr/bin/who |
| 20:54.27 | bennypr0fane | abrotman no |
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| 20:54.55 | jelly-home | Node_214: as for /usr/bin/w, first figure out where the link points to: readlink -f /usr/bin/w, and then run dpkg-statoverride on that path |
| 20:55.59 | okCPU | I am probably doing something wrong, but I can't get my umask to set permanently... any ideas? |
| 20:56.12 | bennypr0fane | ~$ hcitool dev |
| 20:56.14 | bennypr0fane | Devices: |
| 20:56.19 | bennypr0fane | nothing... |
| 20:56.41 | jelly-home | Node_214: chmod changes like KsM suggests would be lost the first time the package (procps?) gets upgraded |
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| 20:58.01 | abrotman | bennypr0fane: sounds like a different problem then .. look through dmesg ? |
| 20:58.46 | GNU\colossus | I upgraded to wheezy today, and xchat's font (re)drawing is HORRENDOUSLY slow, suddenly. anyone else experiencing that? |
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| 21:00.16 | twanny796 | what is the firewall for debian? |
| 21:00.41 | abrotman | there is none by default |
| 21:00.44 | zinx | twanny796: the basic firewall capability for current revisions of linux is iptables |
| 21:01.16 | zinx | twanny796: there are a few frontends to that in debian |
| 21:01.34 | zinx | twanny796: i'm not familiar with the firewall capabilities of non-linux debian |
| 21:02.20 | twanny796 | zinx, is there a frontend shipped with debian gnome? |
| 21:02.45 | jelly-home | ,i ufw |
| 21:02.46 | judd | Package ufw (admin, optional) in squeeze/i386: program for managing a Netfilter firewall. Version: 0.29.3-1; Size: 113.4k; Installed: 656k; Homepage: https://launchpad.net/ufw |
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| 21:05.11 | ompaul | paste.debian.net is back |
| 21:05.18 | ompaul | (has been for a while) |
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| 21:07.32 | bennypr0fane | abrotman: here's from the first mention of bluetooth in dmesg through end: http://pastie.org/5632464 It doens't look like any problems to me... |
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| 21:09.53 | abrotman | seems fine to me |
| 21:10.43 | bennypr0fane | me too |
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| 21:15.56 | Tejp | So, eh, why does my apache2 server seem to work with URL.org but not www.URL.org? |
| 21:17.27 | xand | Tejp: because you haven't configured the latter? |
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| 21:17.42 | xand | http depends on the hostname in the reuqest |
| 21:18.01 | Tejp | How do I configure the latter? |
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| 21:18.11 | Tejp | And why did it respond to URL.org? |
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| 21:19.26 | xand | how does it fail? |
| 21:19.38 | xand | it might be a DNS issue which is seperate to apache/the machine |
| 21:19.50 | abrotman | should bve easy to check |
| 21:20.09 | Tejp | Well, the browser just can't find the page it says. |
| 21:21.42 | DeltaHeavy | I'm trying to install PHP on Debian but it's not working. It just outputs the PHP as text. I followed all the instructions on the PHP docs including restarting the server after I install those packages but I get nothing. Anybody know what I can do to fix this? |
| 21:22.10 | abrotman | did you install libapache2-mod-php ? |
| 21:22.17 | abrotman | did you install libapache2-mod-php5 ? |
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| 21:22.49 | dondelelcaro | !tell DeltaHeavy about php wants me to download still |
| 21:22.56 | DeltaHeavy | abrotman: Yes I did |
| 21:23.17 | xand | Tejp: then you need to configure www.URL.org in DNS... |
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| 21:23.52 | DeltaHeavy | dondelelcaro: I already had my cache disabled in Chrome. I checked again too |
| 21:24.46 | Tejp | xand: Oh, ok. |
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| 21:28.19 | dondelelcaro | DeltaHeavy: so follow the rest of those instructions |
| 21:28.30 | dondelelcaro | DeltaHeavy: and it's better to check using wget or GET instead of a browser. |
| 21:29.24 | DeltaHeavy | dondelelcaro: I followed all the instructions. And with caching disabled i"m just refreshing the source and seeing the PHP still at the top there |
| 21:30.17 | dondelelcaro | DeltaHeavy: have you checked yet with GET or wget? |
| 21:30.26 | DeltaHeavy | I'll do it now |
| 21:30.36 | DeltaHeavy | dondelelcaro: Same results |
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| 21:31.48 | dondelelcaro | DeltaHeavy: what does sudo APACHE_RUN_USER=www-data APACHE_RUN_GROUP=www-data apache2 -M; output? |
| 21:32.20 | DeltaHeavy | dondelelcaro: Syntax OK |
| 21:32.30 | dondelelcaro | DeltaHeavy: it should have output a lot more than that... |
| 21:32.44 | DeltaHeavy | Sorry, thought you were just checking if there were any errors |
| 21:32.49 | dondelelcaro | no. |
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| 21:33.45 | DeltaHeavy | dondelelcaro: http://pastebin.com/uUJSGFyN |
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| 21:34.14 | mikehaas763 | If I have the information setup for a eth1 device in /etc/network/interfaces. How do I actually add the eth1 device to my system? |
| 21:34.14 | dondelelcaro | DeltaHeavy: and have you restarted apache? |
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| 21:35.07 | DeltaHeavy | dondelelcaro: Yes I have |
| 21:35.09 | dondelelcaro | DeltaHeavy: and what precisely is the file/url you are trying to run? |
| 21:35.32 | dondelelcaro | DeltaHeavy: the contents of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf will also be useful. |
| 21:35.36 | DeltaHeavy | /var/www/index.php |
| 21:36.28 | dondelelcaro | DeltaHeavy: ok, and how did you restart apache? |
| 21:36.37 | DeltaHeavy | I'm really strapped for time so I think imma just jump on my Desktop downstairs and sort this out later. Thank you very much for your help though! |
| 21:36.41 | DeltaHeavy | 'service apache2 restart' |
| 21:37.30 | dondelelcaro | *shrug*; good luck |
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| 21:41.43 | k-t | mikehaas763: are you looking for 'ifup'? |
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| 21:48.06 | KettleCooked | As root, I type "visudo". On newly installed Squeeze. Command not found - should I not have this installed? |
| 21:48.38 | KettleCooked | oh wait I don't even have sudo |
| 21:48.47 | Towzzer | that's part of the sudo package |
| 21:48.49 | Towzzer | apt-get install sudo |
| 21:48.52 | KettleCooked | yep got it |
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| 21:51.02 | luis__ | hello |
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| 21:52.07 | luis__ | need up with the dd command |
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| 21:52.31 | tpo | luis__, what exactly do you need to know |
| 21:52.35 | luis__ | I can't seem to clone my hard drive |
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| 21:54.06 | luis__ | this command doesn't seem to give me the output I'm looking for dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sda bs=4096 conv=notrunc,noerror |
| 21:54.33 | tpo | what's the problem then? |
| 21:54.36 | KettleCooked | After updating sudoers file, do you know if a reboot is required for it to take effect? |
| 21:54.50 | tpo | KettleCooked, no just log out and back in |
| 21:55.02 | Aleksander | Hello. I have a serious libsane problem with my brother dcp7030 on sid [the same on testing and lenny] - even though my printer works pretty well, I can't access my scanner. I installed brscan3 and scan-skey-tool for my arch, tweaked with user rights, udev, added user to lp and scanner group, and basically nothing works. When I try to scanimage -L the scanner is shown, but with -T scanimage: open of device brother3:bus4;dev1 failed: Invalid argument. |
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| 21:55.19 | tpo | KettleCooked, ah wait nonsense, it should work imediately |
| 21:55.25 | zykotick9 | KettleCooked: easiest way to allow users to use sudo, is add them to the sudo group, then log out back in. |
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| 21:55.57 | abailarri | Has anyone compiled the latest version of Filezilla? I ha some questions |
| 21:55.59 | abrotman | Aleksander: xsane installed? |
| 21:56.24 | Aleksander | abrotman, yes, and it doesn't start - with the same error |
| 21:56.29 | Aleksander | or it starts and can't scan |
| 21:56.34 | Aleksander | same goes for simple-scan |
| 21:56.43 | luis__ | i'm trying to clone my running system to another hard drive so I can use it to be my running hard drive |
| 21:56.53 | tpo | Aleksander, you could ask on the sane mailing list |
| 21:57.38 | tpo | luis__, sure but in what way is the result from the command you noted before wrong? |
| 21:57.43 | KettleCooked | tpo: Do you know if this line would actually let user 'www-data' call 'commandforroot' : www-data ALL=(root) NOPASSWD: /root/commandforroot |
| 21:57.55 | KettleCooked | (as root, as indicated by parens) |
| 21:58.42 | luis__ | the drive i'm putting the clone on doesn't have all the sector by sector copy of the clone |
| 22:00.22 | KettleCooked | nevermind it worked as long as I put sudo in front of command! |
| 22:00.44 | luis__ | i thougth i can just boot up into it the second and go on with my life |
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| 22:01.30 | tpo | luis__, when you copy the disk, does it show errors in /var/log/kern.log respectively when you do "dmesg"? |
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| 22:03.51 | tpo | luis__, alternatively you could also use gddrescue if there are problems with the disk |
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| 22:04.30 | luis__ | hmm, i've tried it so many times in so many ways that my dmesg output is filled up with log errors. lol |
| 22:05.26 | KsM | win 31 |
| 22:05.30 | KsM | oops |
| 22:05.31 | tpo | luis__, if there are errors, then you might have trouble using dd to clone the disk |
| 22:05.58 | tpo | AFAIK dd is not very error resilient |
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| 22:06.31 | sb0 | hi - what's the status on enlightenment 17 packaging? |
| 22:06.46 | luis__ | i see! the drive that i am trying to clone does have bad sectors. That does make sense |
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| 22:07.44 | tpo | luis__, rather use gddrescue then (or the older ddrescue worked also for me) |
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| 22:08.01 | frostschutz | luis__: dd can handle bad sectors only if you give it conv=noerror,sync options |
| 22:08.56 | enyawix | is there a debian bugzilla web page? email is blocked at ISP level send mail is NOT an option |
| 22:08.58 | luis__ | i did try it with the conv=notrunc,noerror |
| 22:09.07 | luis__ | i |
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| 22:09.39 | frostschutz | luis__: you need notrunc if you're making an image file, and you cancelled an earlier attempt, and now want to resume, but then you also need seek=x skip=x along with it to resume at position x |
| 22:10.14 | luis__ | oh!!! |
| 22:10.14 | tpo | enyawix, I don't understand. Explain a bit more |
| 22:10.24 | frostschutz | luis__: but without sync the image will be useless. sync makes it write bad sectors as zeroes, otherwise it will simply continue with the next readable sector, and the result is corrupted / no longer address aligned to the source |
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| 22:11.26 | luis__ | ok, so i'll had the sync option and remove the notrunc |
| 22:11.33 | luis__ | add* |
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| 22:12.35 | luis__ | i'll try this dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sda bs=4096 conv=noerror,sync |
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| 22:13.24 | enyawix | tpo: I am trying to submit a bug report |
| 22:13.50 | frostschutz | luis__: that'd copy sdc to sda, writing bad sectors as zeroes, assuming a 4k sector size (which means a single 512b bad sector can cause 4k missing in the copy). I'd use it very much the same way |
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| 22:14.23 | Vasistha | how can I tell if my sound card driver is loaded? kmix only shows master, no PCM or any other channels available |
| 22:14.38 | tpo | enyawix, no there's no web interface for submitting bugs |
| 22:14.54 | enyawix | wow |
| 22:15.03 | enyawix | ok just tried http://pastebin.com/fSiFK0aX |
| 22:15.14 | enyawix | from email |
| 22:15.45 | luis__ | frostschutz: did you mean to give that a try |
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| 22:16.15 | luis__ | or should i do ddresecue if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sda bs=4096 conv=noerror,sync |
| 22:16.32 | tpo | enyawix, so if you try to send normal email to submit@bugs.debian.org it will be blocked by your ISP? |
| 22:16.53 | frostschutz | luis__: ddrescue is a different program, its parameters will probably look different than dd's |
| 22:17.16 | luis__ | sorry, I've never used it |
| 22:17.29 | luis__ | i'll check the man page for ddrescue |
| 22:17.39 | tpo | Vasistha, lsmod (as root) will show you the loaded drivers |
| 22:17.49 | enyawix | tpo: i sent the stuff on past bin grom google mail |
| 22:17.58 | tpo | Vasistha, oh as non-root as well |
| 22:18.04 | Vasistha | tpo: thanks |
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| 22:18.37 | tpo | Vasistha, you can also try "alsamixer" in the console as an alternative (from the alsa-utils package) |
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| 22:19.36 | luis__ | frostschutz: one more ? before i spend another day on the dd command. Should the drive be mounted or unmounted? Does it matter? |
| 22:19.59 | darsie | wasn't there a gnu games packages with nethack etc? |
| 22:20.01 | frostschutz | luis__: should be unmounted |
| 22:20.22 | Arrowmaster | darsie: nethack should be in its own package |
| 22:20.44 | enyawix | tpo: email came back Processed (with 6 errors): |
| 22:20.48 | tpo | enyawix, that bugreport is not really useful :-( - you don't state what the problem was |
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| 22:21.17 | luis__ | frostschutz: thanks, I'll boot into a livecd and give it a try |
| 22:21.18 | frostschutz | luis__: and sda should be an empty disk, as you're overwriting it with dd and deleting whatever is on there |
| 22:21.19 | darsie | Arrowmaster: Maybe there was also a ASCII art moon buggy jump'n'run in it. |
| 22:21.41 | frostschutz | luis__: dd reads from if= and overwrites of= |
| 22:21.51 | luis__ | got it |
| 22:22.15 | Arrowmaster | darsie: there is a package named bsdgames |
| 22:22.47 | darsie | Arrowmaster: Yeah, I think that was it. thx. |
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| 22:23.00 | enyawix | tpo: I am trying to get the discard mount option added to the list of mount option on the installer. discard mount option is to support SSD storage |
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| 22:23.34 | tanagra | hello |
| 22:23.37 | frostschutz | enyawix: dunno about what the installer does or doesn't do with discard, but you could always add it to fstab later |
| 22:23.41 | tanagra | i am trying to find a list |
| 22:23.55 | tanagra | with find, but it doesnt find it alphabetically |
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| 22:24.06 | luis__ | frostschutz: from what I read it doesn't matter if the second drive isn't empty. dd will erase it with the copies. But i'll delete the partitions on it either way and make it a blank drive like if I just brought it from a store |
| 22:24.14 | tanagra | is there a way to use find alphabetically |
| 22:24.35 | frostschutz | luis__: yes it doesn't really matter - just wasn't sure if you were clear on that part :P |
| 22:24.41 | tpo | tanagra, find|sort |
| 22:24.52 | tanagra | i use find with exec |
| 22:25.30 | frostschutz | find -print0 | sort -z | xargs -0 -n 1 cmd... |
| 22:25.35 | enyawix | frostschutz: That is what I need. It is mostly a issue of convenience |
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| 22:25.53 | Vasistha | tpo: and how can I figure out which thing is for the sound card? |
| 22:26.18 | enyawix | Vasistha: what are you trying to do ? |
| 22:26.54 | luis__ | frostschutz: thanks for the help. Going to run and try it now. I sure do love me some GNU/Linux. |
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| 22:27.31 | luis__ | exit |
| 22:27.39 | rozz2 | How do I move a partition in gparted? |
| 22:28.08 | enyawix | Vasistha: lsmod |
| 22:28.09 | tpo | Vasistha, on my system sound drivers start with "snd_" as in snd_hda_intel |
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| 22:28.46 | tpo | Vasistha, snd as in "sound" |
| 22:29.25 | enyawix | Vasistha: lsmod | grep snd |
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| 22:30.02 | tpo | also Vasistha in lsmod: |
| 22:30.09 | tpo | Module Size Used by |
| 22:30.30 | tpo | snd 53078 26 snd_usb_audio,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_rawm |
| 22:30.30 | tpo | idi,snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_device |
| 22:30.38 | cardiel | im running gnome 3, and wonder if its safe to disable zeitgeist datahub? |
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| 22:30.46 | tpo | so that's the actual hw drivers... |
| 22:31.57 | larseberhart | Hi! I changed postix to use maildir insted of mbox. Mails are now delivered to the user's maildir. Works. BUT I have a small glitch: when logging on, "No Mail" is being show. It seems, mail still checks /var/mail. What do I need to change/edit? |
| 22:32.56 | tpo | bye folks |
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| 22:39.36 | tanagra | well find produces garbage here, it sorts the entire list instead of the start |
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| 22:40.38 | psycode | find is probably ok |
| 22:41.11 | tanagra | find /blah/dir -xdev -type f -exec mediainfo '{}' --inform=file:///tmp/template.txt \; >>/tmp/blahfile |
| 22:41.59 | tanagra | i put sort at the end and it sorts the entire file, instead of the directory find |
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| 22:56.03 | kveroneau | Is there any reason why Debian would fail to start emmunerating a USB device out of nowhere? I restarted both my system and the USB device, and it's still not being seen. USB is charging it, so the cord appears to be fine. |
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| 22:56.58 | kveroneau | The USB device is the Samsung Galaxy S3, and it was working perfectly just a few days ago, and now Debian isn't seeing it at all. Both dmesg and lsusb show nothing. |
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| 22:57.39 | dvs | kveroneau: I have a Nexus S and I have to specifically tell it to activate its USB connection |
| 22:57.43 | kveroneau | The device itself isn't showing the USB connected notification either, just shows charging indicator over USB. |
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| 22:58.21 | kveroneau | Hmm, I never had to specifically tell it before, and I can't seem to find the setting either. I even attempted to enable USB debugging to see if Debian will see that, nothing... |
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| 22:59.02 | kveroneau | I normally use th |
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| 22:59.42 | kveroneau | I normally use the USB for tethering, but since no USB connect is detected by the phone, I can't check the USB tether box. |
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| 23:01.22 | kveroneau | ... At least WiFi tethering still works, or I'd be out of commission, I prefer going over USB RNDIS, since it draws less power from the phone(Wifi chip is off). |
| 23:01.46 | Towzzer | my s2 heats up really badly during wifi tethering |
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| 23:03.25 | kveroneau | Towzzer, my S3 doesn't, but it's a bit warming then when I use USB tethering. I'd rather my phone as cool as possible. Hopefully I can figure out why Debian or the phone isn't working over USB... So odd. |
| 23:04.43 | kveroneau | Hopefully it's not the cord, but since it still charges, I don't think it is. I really should just plug my SIM into my USB 3G modem and be done with this Android problem... |
| 23:04.55 | Towzzer | I thought the latest Jellybean turned off something with usb |
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| 23:05.47 | kveroneau | Towzzer, I believe it worked after I upgraded my phone to JB, I use it rather often. |
| 23:05.53 | Towzzer | ok |
| 23:05.58 | Towzzer | thought I read something on a forum once |
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| 23:06.51 | kveroneau | The unfortunate thing, is that I may actually have to dual-boot to see if it's Debian or the Phone... I really hate dual-booting, I'd rather just spend all my time in Debian. :( |
| 23:07.01 | Towzzer | yeah |
| 23:07.11 | Towzzer | if you have to dual boot you might as well use the OS that is the super set of all functions |
| 23:08.07 | kveroneau | I don't think I changed anything on my Debian recently that would affect USB emmuneration though. That's why I suspect it's either the phone or the cord acting up. |
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| 23:09.22 | Towzzer | how do you turn off hostname mangling on freenode |
| 23:09.57 | kveroneau | I prefer using my 3G modem anyways, even tho I can't receive calls using it. I can still text using smsd, if I need to. |
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| 23:16.37 | nkuttler | Towzzer: ask in #freenode |
| 23:16.47 | Guest70463 | hi, i understand that some firmware is in the kernel already... but i am trying to see why my wireless card is not working and in dmesg i get something about iwl 1000 -2.ucode missing ... checked online and it says its in the kernel already... could someone advice on how to approach this... google is not being very helpful |
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| 23:17.58 | cusco | what is the cipset Croupier |
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| 23:21.14 | Croupier | cusco, i get this Detected Intel Wireless WiFi Link 1000 Series |
| 23:21.29 | cusco | Croupier: lspci|grep -i net |
| 23:22.15 | Croupier | Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1000 |
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| 23:22.46 | cusco | is that all it states? |
| 23:23.05 | cusco | iwconfig - does itstate anything usefoul? |
| 23:23.15 | Croupier | ohhh this one too 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 05) |
| 23:23.40 | Croupier | cos i tried to add another usb-wireless asus that has a linux support :) |
| 23:23.45 | cusco | now thats a chipset |
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| 23:24.04 | cusco | is it usb? your wifi card? |
| 23:24.11 | Croupier | the second one is |
| 23:24.23 | cusco | the one you're tring to makeit work |
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| 23:25.08 | Croupier | cusco, at the moment any of those would be great |
| 23:25.21 | Croupier | im trying to have a wireless connection working ... after that... i can sort out the rest |
| 23:25.49 | cusco | Croupier: iwconfig |
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| 23:26.01 | cusco | does it state ' no wireless extensions' ? |
| 23:26.44 | Croupier | not on the wlan0 it states this when i do ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 23:26.44 | Croupier | 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1000 |
| 23:26.45 | Croupier | 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 05) |
| 23:26.56 | Croupier | sorry wrong paste... SIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 132 |
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| 23:28.27 | cusco | Croupier: I don't know about that sorry |
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| 23:28.42 | cusco | do you have a gui for managing wifi? |
| 23:28.45 | jelly-home | Croupier: is firmware-iwlwifi package installed? |
| 23:29.21 | Croupier | jelly-home, i think so... let me check again |
| 23:29.38 | jelly-home | Croupier: ask the bot about the driver: /msg dpkg iwlagn |
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| 23:29.43 | Croupier | i have wicd network manager |
| 23:29.58 | jelly-home | if you have a kernel from backports, you're going to need firmware from backports as well |
| 23:30.48 | cusco | Croupier: pay attention to jelly-home's statements |
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| 23:31.03 | cusco | should be helpful |
| 23:32.51 | jelly-home | nonsense, I might be talking crap just like anyone else |
| 23:32.55 | Croupier | jelly i understand what you mean... let me see |
| 23:33.13 | jelly-home | ,v firmware-iwlwifi |
| 23:33.18 | judd | Package: firmware-iwlwifi on i386 -- lenny/non-free: 0.14+lenny2; lenny-backports/non-free: 0.27~bpo50+1; squeeze/non-free: 0.28+squeeze1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 0.35~bpo60+1; wheezy/non-free: 0.36; sid/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1 |
| 23:33.57 | Croupier | i am trying to add the source as it says but its telling me cannot read the directory :( hmmm... |
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| 23:38.29 | Croupier | ohh yeah that one is already installed.... but on the description it says iwlwifi 1000 5.ucode and i think im missing 02 and 03.ucode.... |
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| 23:38.34 | Croupier | that is what is going on i think |
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| 23:46.14 | Croupier | lsmod shows that the module is started... iwlcore 77842 1 iwlagn |
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| 23:50.44 | jelly-home | Croupier: well, which kernel do you have booted? uname -r |
| 23:51.19 | jelly-home | from my limited experience with intel wifi, the drivers load but don't work if the firmware's missing |
| 23:51.53 | Croupier | jelly-home, makes sense not to work with no firmware |
| 23:52.10 | Croupier | i think i corrected the usb card though...i see the light started working....;) |
| 23:52.15 | Croupier | let me check what is going on |
| 23:52.32 | Croupier | i got it ;) |
| 23:52.49 | Croupier | thank you guys, for your support and for the great wiki ;) helped alot |
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| 23:55.19 | Croupier | something that is really annoying to me is why is there no skype? is there another way to add skype support of some kind my family uses only that :( but the skype ive found so far seems to not be working :( any recommendations on skype or other updates ? |
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| 23:57.09 | mikehaas763 | I installed a very minimal installation from netinst. Now there is no visudo which I need. What package can I find visudo in? |
| 23:57.16 | NiLon | can I make lvm raid out of 2 disks so that it will boot inside it? |
| 23:57.18 | jelly-home | mikehaas763: sudo |
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| 23:58.31 | mikehaas763 | Hmm, I thought sudo was installed but I guess you are right. Thanks |
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| 23:59.32 | jelly-home | yeah, there's no sudo in base install |
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