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| 00:14.12 | temmis | "I'm so glad I found this thread. I've been having terrible headaches / migraines for several months now and I've finally confirmed that it's all down to my Macbook's screen. I really don't know what to do as I need to use the Macbook every day for work on the move so an external monitor isn't the answer. I wake up every day feeling really groggy and with a slight headache (or migraine if I'm unlucky) and it just gets worse throughout |
| 00:14.34 | abrotman | temmis: do you need help with Debian ? |
| 00:15.18 | temmis | abrotman: Threw out my debian. |
| 00:15.31 | abrotman | so you're just here to troll ? |
| 00:15.42 | temmis | Nop. |
| 00:15.46 | temmis | Looking for a new debian. |
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| 00:26.26 | Tejp | So, I was in a #apache, and man are they hard to talk to. He said he can't help me unless I can find what ${APACHE_LOG_DIR} is set to. |
| 00:26.34 | Tejp | How do I find that out? |
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| 00:27.57 | nkuttler | Tejp: there's exactly one user in #apache... do you mean #httpd? |
| 00:28.08 | Tejp | Yes. |
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| 00:28.21 | nkuttler | Tejp: well debian logs are in /var/log/apache2/ |
| 00:28.24 | laddu | o/ Lightweight screen capture tool? go... |
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| 00:31.39 | echo083 | laddu, gnome-screenshot |
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| 00:34.56 | Tejp | nkuttler, Oh, forgot to say thanks, thanks man. |
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| 00:55.19 | cactusbin | Does anyone know a program or script I can use to tell what programs are writing to disk? |
| 00:55.39 | tharkun | !lsof |
| 00:55.39 | dpkg | lsof is, like, LiSt Open Files, "aptitude install lsof" . See also <open files>. |
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| 00:56.54 | cactusbin | tharkun: sure, is there a way to use lsof to tell what is actively writing to disk? |
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| 00:57.39 | dondelelcaro | cactusbin: iotop will do that. |
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| 00:59.26 | cactusbin | dondelelcaro: alright thanks but the process is jbd2, which isn't much help.. I am assuming it is some sort of log is there any way to figure out which file it might be? |
| 01:00.27 | tharkun | cactusbin: What is exactly the problem you are dealing with? |
| 01:01.15 | cactusbin | tharkun: my laptop is spinning down the disk to save power, which is fine (although I can't figure out how to turn it off automatically without hdparm) but it immediately starts to spin up again due to hdd activity |
| 01:01.28 | cactusbin | tharkun: it shouldn't be firefox or anything like that because I put all that on a ramdisk |
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| 01:03.35 | tharkun | cactusbin: there is this intel program called powertop that will tell you who does what and what programs are pulling your cpu from the different C states its has. It also display which are the interrupts most common on your machine |
| 01:03.54 | dondelelcaro | cactusbin: http://samwel.tk/laptop_mode/faq |
| 01:03.59 | dondelelcaro | cactusbin: that may help you. |
| 01:04.27 | cactusbin | thanks tharkun and dondelelcaro |
| 01:04.36 | cactusbin | also would it be a bad idea to put /var/log on a ramdisk? |
| 01:05.15 | dondelelcaro | cactusbin: why bother? if you want to keep the drive from spinning up/down just modify the VM to cache things for much longer |
| 01:06.15 | cactusbin | alright dondelelcaro this article looks like some good stuff thanks a lot |
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| 01:24.02 | mynameisdeleted | hi all |
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| 01:27.02 | dvs | hi deleted |
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| 01:27.24 | Towzzer | what? my name is? |
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| 01:28.02 | Shoya | o.o wut |
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| 01:43.15 | intelikey | what provides the module vboxdrv ? FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found. |
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| 01:43.58 | intelikey | anyone ? |
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| 01:44.57 | abrotman | intelikey: what is 'uname -a' ? |
| 01:44.57 | intelikey | should be somewhere in /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/ err shouldn't it ? |
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| 01:45.21 | intelikey | -a or -r ? |
| 01:45.26 | abrotman | intelikey: -a |
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| 01:45.50 | abrotman | intelikey: but anyway, did you install virtualbox-dkms? |
| 01:45.53 | intelikey | Linux bob 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Sun Sep 23 11:00:33 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 01:46.00 | intelikey | i did |
| 01:46.18 | abrotman | is it not there? |
| 01:46.31 | abrotman | i'd think that's where it comes from |
| 01:46.47 | intelikey | apt-get install says virtualbox-ose-dkms is already the newest version |
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| 01:47.04 | abrotman | did it actually build/install/ |
| 01:47.21 | intelikey | didn't error out. |
| 01:47.53 | marvinstuart | Hey some help |
| 01:47.58 | sney | !ask |
| 01:47.59 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 01:48.11 | intelikey | ah wait. maybe the kernel source is missing |
| 01:48.34 | intelikey | abrotman that seems to be it. ty |
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| 01:48.38 | sney | intelikey, the -dkms package is a script that builds the vboxdrv module, and if the linux-headers package for your kernel is missing it won't build the module. |
| 01:48.50 | marvinstuart | Debian whezzy, raspberrypi trying to mono and get error message |
| 01:48.58 | Vasistha | I'm trying to figure out why I can't hear any sound from my box. Here's lsmod | grep snd: http://paste.debian.net/222681/ |
| 01:49.08 | sney | intelikey: don't just install the linux source, install the headers, then dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox-ose-dkms |
| 01:49.34 | sney | !tell Vasistha about alsa checklist |
| 01:49.41 | Vasistha | thanks !! |
| 01:49.59 | sney | though that checklist should be updated, it still has valid stuff, like steps 1-4 |
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| 01:50.18 | Vasistha | sney: what package is alsamixer a part of? |
| 01:50.19 | marvinstuart | Whezzy error with running mono can someone please help, it's on a raspberrypi |
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| 01:50.46 | intelikey | sney yep |
| 01:51.35 | sney | marvinstuart, please describe what you're doing, or at least pastebin an error log |
| 01:51.38 | sney | Vasistha, alsa-utils |
| 01:51.53 | sney | marvinstuart, also, is that wheezy armel or raspbian? |
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| 01:52.43 | intelikey | again. thanks guys. |
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| 01:53.45 | Vasistha | sney: okay. alsamixer shows only master and Beep and BaseFreq (?) no PCM channel or headphones channel or anything. aplay noise.wav as root makes no sound (though it executes without complaint). pulseaudio is not installed |
| 01:54.42 | sney | Vasistha, can you pastebin the output of 'cat /proc/asound/cards' |
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| 01:55.25 | Vasistha | sney: http://paste.debian.net/222682/ |
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| 01:58.01 | Vasistha | sney: I guess HDA stands for High Definition Audio. It's an MSI motherboard, using built-in audio. Haven't tested audio through hdmi (and I don't think I have the means anyway) |
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| 02:02.42 | sney | Vasistha, yeah, everything is intel hda these days |
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| 02:03.19 | sney | Vasistha, but what that /proc/asound/cards shows is something weird, which is easily fixable if you don't care about motherboard beeps during OS operation |
| 02:03.46 | Sidney__ | I have a problem being redirected on the chomium browser. anyone know if duckduckgo has a problem in this respect |
| 02:03.53 | Vasistha | sney: I blacklisted the pcspkr module via /etc/modprobe.d -- could that be causing a problem? |
| 02:04.08 | sney | Vasistha, that's actually the solution. but you need to reboot to enable any blacklists. |
| 02:04.39 | marvinstuart | Sney: it's a whezzy here is is the error http://pastebin.com/uVgrHWVi |
| 02:04.44 | Vasistha | sney: I've rebooted several times since I blacklisted it ... are you saying I need to remove the blacklisting or...? |
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| 02:05.08 | sney | Vasistha, run update-initramfs -u and then reboot again. some modules make it into the initrd so they're loaded before /etc/modprobe.d is parsed |
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| 02:05.36 | Vasistha | /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf: blacklist pcspkr |
| 02:06.06 | sney | marvinstuart, what is the output of 'uname -a' |
| 02:06.16 | Vasistha | sney: ohh. interesting. But... the pcspkr is not making any sound e.g. console beeps when notifying for tab-completion. But I'll run that and reboot, thanks |
| 02:07.31 | marvinstuart | Sney: meaning what program I am trying to run |
| 02:07.52 | sney | marvinstuart, please run 'uname -a' at your terminal and paste the output here. |
| 02:07.59 | marvinstuart | Ok |
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| 02:13.28 | marvinstuart | Sney: inux raspberrypi 3.1.9+ #168 PREEMPT Sat Jul 14 18:56:31 BST 2012 armv6l GNU/Linux |
| 02:14.04 | sney | that is raspbian |
| 02:14.07 | abrotman | so it's raspbian |
| 02:14.15 | sney | go to #raspbian for support please |
| 02:14.17 | marvinstuart | Hmm |
| 02:14.19 | abrotman | and it's inux! |
| 02:14.36 | marvinstuart | Ok |
| 02:14.43 | marvinstuart | Thanks |
| 02:15.12 | Vasistha | sney: okay, now the pcspkr is gone, and cat /proc/asound/cards has only the entry for intel HDA, as number 0 |
| 02:15.31 | sney | ok, and are you able to unmute your channels and get sound? |
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| 02:19.26 | adiabatic | I bought a newfangled i5 machine. Do I want amd64 or ia64? |
| 02:19.54 | LtL | adiabatic: amd64 |
| 02:20.12 | adiabatic | thought so. thanks! |
| 02:20.44 | LtL | adiabatic: welcome |
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| 02:21.06 | Vasistha | sney: great we are working! Thanks so much. Volume is a bit soft but oh well. |
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| 02:21.20 | sney | no problem. |
| 02:21.44 | dvs | what? |
| 02:21.51 | Vasistha | sney: It looks like the speakers are plugged into the "front" channel, but I'm not going to ask my dad to switch it while I am on the opposite side of the country |
| 02:21.54 | dvs | can't hear you |
| 02:22.42 | intelikey | i don't understand this. the module is built and active but the program is still spewing out the same error message. it doesn't make any sense to me. "Please install the virtualbox-ose-dkms package and execute 'modprobe vboxdrv' as root." ??? |
| 02:23.28 | sney | close virtualbox and open it again |
| 02:24.07 | intelikey | when i modprobed vboxdrv and did an ls -l /dev/vboxdrv it's there and 660 "sney heh, first thing i did." |
| 02:25.29 | abrotman | intelikey: permissions? |
| 02:25.38 | intelikey | 660 |
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| 02:26.04 | abrotman | intelikey: right, and which group owns it? which groups are you in? |
| 02:26.13 | intelikey | abrotman i tried it as root also, just to see if that was it |
| 02:26.29 | intelikey | no change |
| 02:27.05 | sney | since building the module, have you rebooted? I find with weird 3rd party stuff it can sometimes be necessary. |
| 02:27.17 | sney | I think I had to, last time I build that virtualbox module |
| 02:27.45 | intelikey | sney that's the only thing i havent tried. i'll go there now. |
| 02:28.21 | intelikey | if you don't see me in a few minutes it probably worked. so thanks ahead of time. |
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| 02:33.59 | intelikey | no change with the reboot |
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| 02:35.02 | adiabatic | Does Debian Stable ship with GNOME 3, or do I need to try testing for that? |
| 02:35.20 | abrotman | gnome2 |
| 02:35.20 | dvs | adiabatic: that's in testing |
| 02:35.34 | adiabatic | thought so. thanks! |
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| 02:36.36 | intelikey | so if the module is there and the device node is there and the program is still saying that the module is missing. what now? |
| 02:36.52 | abrotman | intelikey: bad permissions is what i'd think |
| 02:36.59 | cesurasean | hey guys. when i debootstrap into /home, then reboot, i can no longer chroot into it because it says /bin/bash can't be found. When I debootstrap into /home2/, and reboot, I'm able to chroot into it upon reboot. What gives??! |
| 02:37.01 | intelikey | for root ? |
| 02:37.08 | intelikey | root doesn't need permission |
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| 02:41.12 | intelikey | error code >>> RTR3Init failed with rc=-1912 (rc=-1912) \n Please install the virtualbox-ose-dkms package and execute 'modprobe vboxdrv' as root. |
| 02:41.46 | intelikey | grasping at straws now... |
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| 02:42.30 | cesurasean | no response, ok, ill post in other chan. |
| 02:42.45 | abrotman | yeah, that'll work |
| 02:43.04 | abrotman | intelikey: i'd generally dig with strace by now .. |
| 02:43.21 | abrotman | cesurasean: you realize most of the same people here are also there? |
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| 02:48.32 | cesurasean | yes. |
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| 02:50.56 | intelikey | abrotman yeah but; strace is not yelding anything that i can use... it's only reporting a get clock read .... clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {1130, 972374952}) = 0 |
| 02:51.00 | intelikey | read(7, 0x95dfd68, 4096) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) |
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| 02:51.24 | intelikey | that's from the time of error backward for miles and miles |
| 02:52.15 | abrotman | there's no error about accessing th emodule? |
| 02:52.20 | abrotman | erm .. device |
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| 02:54.10 | cesurasean | hello. |
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| 02:55.29 | intelikey | i don't see anyting in strace that looks useful |
| 02:55.43 | intelikey | maybe it's a bug |
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| 02:57.09 | intelikey | oh well. thanks for the input, it beat a poke in the eye with a sharp stick. :) |
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| 02:59.50 | abrotman | uh, he ran off |
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| 03:06.36 | MooseElkingtons | how do I remove all the non-standard crap I've installed on squeeze automatically? |
| 03:07.29 | mroe | Does anyone know how to tell which drive is resyncing in an mdadm array? |
| 03:09.00 | dvs | mroe: mdadm --detail /dev/md0 |
| 03:09.41 | mroe | dvs: tht just seems to tell me that it is rebuilding, not which drive |
| 03:09.51 | mroe | s/rebuilding/resyncig/ |
| 03:10.17 | peterrooney | MooseElkingtons: there's various levels of non-standard. try for example, aptitude search '?installed ?not(?priority(required))' |
| 03:11.42 | MooseElkingtons | peterrooney, that gives me packages pre-installed as well. |
| 03:12.21 | peterrooney | MooseElkingtons: pre-installed? |
| 03:13.09 | MooseElkingtons | Yes, when I installed debian squeeze on this laptop, it came with certain packages. |
| 03:13.24 | peterrooney | consider other priorities are, extra, important, optional, standard. Also, perhaps deborphan package might be useful? |
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| 03:14.09 | abrotman | start with aptitude remove '~poptional' |
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| 03:46.30 | MMavipc | any way to install gnome2 on sid? |
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| 03:47.53 | abrotman | not supported by Debian |
| 03:48.05 | abrotman | MMavipc: you could try Cinnamon instead |
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| 03:49.58 | mroe | how finicky is mdadm when it comes to different makes/models of drives |
| 03:51.32 | MMavipc | abrotman: even with cinnamon my desktop is still unusable |
| 03:51.46 | abrotman | in what way? |
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| 03:52.18 | abrotman | MMavipc: perhaps look at lxde or xfce |
| 03:52.32 | MMavipc | !dpkg lxde |
| 03:52.33 | dpkg | The Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment (LXDE) is available for Debian since Lenny. To install, ask me about <install lxde>. http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE:Questions http://www.lxde.org/ #lxde on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 03:52.41 | mroe | in some regards it shouldn't matter, but I know different manufacturers have different firmware with different response times, etc. This might cause drives to get kicked out |
| 03:53.26 | abrotman | MMavipc: please msg the bot |
| 03:53.33 | MMavipc | abrotman: which one would you recommend? |
| 03:53.45 | abrotman | MMavipc: you still haven't said what's wrong with Gnome3 |
| 03:54.04 | MMavipc | The desktop |
| 03:54.08 | MMavipc | you can't use it |
| 03:54.11 | MMavipc | it's just a picture |
| 03:54.14 | Arrowmaster | he wants icons on the desktop |
| 03:54.25 | abrotman | you can have that with Gnome3, i have it on mine |
| 03:54.35 | MMavipc | how? |
| 03:54.47 | abrotman | install the gnome-tweak-tool or whatever it is |
| 03:55.49 | Arrowmaster | yeah run that, under Desktop select "Have file manager handle the desktop" |
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| 04:27.58 | guest4289 | how to redirect a subdomain to domain in other port, for example when u type subdomain it will go to subdomain:49152 but will not be visible |
| 04:28.59 | guest4289 | is it bind configuration? |
| 04:29.15 | dgriffi | blurp |
| 04:30.01 | guest4289 | dgriffi: is it for me? |
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| 04:35.52 | guest4289 | someone could help me please? |
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| 04:37.58 | gusteru | hello ! |
| 04:38.12 | gusteru | anyone can help me yo install yacc ? |
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| 04:40.41 | gusteru | anyone can help me to install yacc ? |
| 04:41.57 | guest4289 | it took so long to response which I already thought a solution |
| 04:42.15 | guest4289 | just to redirect ports on firewall |
| 04:42.33 | guest4289 | and use bind to say that external |
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| 04:44.30 | guest4289 | thank you guest4289 |
| 04:44.40 | guest4289 | ur welcome |
| 04:44.45 | guest4289 | ahah |
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| 04:47.50 | dgriffi | does anyone know what the deal is with Samsung apparently not implementing MTP correctly on its tablets such that standard MTP tools don't work? |
| 04:48.10 | gnarface | gusteru: nobody in here even knows what yacc is. try debian-ppc |
| 04:48.55 | dgriffi | gusteru: what's wrong with bison? |
| 04:48.59 | gusteru | gnarface ... yacc-byacc .. I resolved it ... |
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| 04:49.45 | gnarface | gusteru: sorry i was wrong anyway; i confused yacc with yaboot, ignore me |
| 04:50.02 | gusteru | dgriffi i try to instal ircd but not work .. :( |
| 04:50.40 | gusteru | gnarface don't worry |
| 04:51.14 | dgriffi | gusteru: which ircd are you trying to install? |
| 04:51.20 | gusteru | I try to install ircd but ... with tutorial ... don;t work |
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| 04:51.51 | gusteru | dgriffi I try to install ircd ircu2.10.12.14 |
| 04:51.58 | gusteru | but ... don't start |
| 04:52.16 | gusteru | I don't know , what and when it's the problem .. |
| 04:52.24 | dgriffi | gusteru: so you do "sudo apt-get install ircd-ircu" and what happens? |
| 04:52.39 | gnarface | i don't think any of the debian irc servers are packaged to work out of the box |
| 04:53.02 | gnarface | i think regardless of whether you compile from source or install from package you're gonna have to read and edit a giant config file for the better part of an 8-hour workday |
| 04:53.08 | gusteru | dgriffi don't try to install with "sudo apt-get install ircd-ircu" ... I want to install manually |
| 04:53.34 | gnarface | also, all unreal/ratbox and derivative ircds have a known exploit right now |
| 04:53.43 | gusteru | I want to install ircu and gnuworld services |
| 04:54.50 | dgriffi | gnarface: what did I annoy you with last week? |
| 04:55.09 | dgriffi | oh dear... Mark Crispin just died |
| 04:56.01 | gnarface | dgriffi: i don't know. i'm sorry if i gave you the impression that getting annoyed is something i did specially for you or that i would remember why for long after; i reserve that brain space for the list of names of all my gradeschool teachers and classmates |
| 04:56.39 | dgriffi | gnarface: I think it was the way I said "please".. I meant it as a "come on... lighten up" rather than "fix this for me" |
| 04:58.03 | gnarface | dgriffi: oh yea i remember now. but this conversation is off-topic in this channel and my response "no" was my intended response to either statement. i'm sorry i didn't make it clear that i didn't bother to figure out which you made; both possible intents elicited the same answer from me |
| 04:58.45 | gnarface | dgriffi: but if i recall, it had something to do with a fundamental misunderstanding you were making, that someone else helped you clear up on the very next line |
| 04:59.00 | dgriffi | yeah. I'm glad that's cleared up now. |
| 04:59.02 | gnarface | dgriffi: i'd already lost my patience by then. nothing personal |
| 04:59.22 | gnarface | dgriffi: we get a lot of it in here |
| 04:59.51 | dgriffi | gnarface: and as soon as I got that fixed, I ran into another massively irritating problem... Samsung apparently was smoking crack when implementing MTP in the latest releases of Android |
| 05:00.20 | dgriffi | gnarface: applications that stick to the specs of the protocol can't talk to newer Samsung devices. |
| 05:00.37 | dgriffi | gnarface: I've been running round in circles over this all last night |
| 05:00.40 | gnarface | dgriffi: the channel joiners are generally a long list of people who come in angry about something that needs to be addressed prior to the actual complaint/bug/problem they're having .... using bizarre hardware certainly doesn't make it any easier to find your way though, especially when its not following the rules |
| 05:01.10 | dgriffi | gnarface: yeah.. people pissed off that something isn't working right... I know the feeling. |
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| 05:02.08 | gnarface | dgriffi: i showed up here that way too, initially. i ended up sticking around for the enlightenment |
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| 05:02.44 | gnarface | debian has its own set of rules and they are definitely stricter |
| 05:03.07 | gnarface | usually for good reason though |
| 05:03.25 | dgriffi | gnarface: lately most of my IRCing has been on #classiccmp on freenode |
| 05:04.12 | dgriffi | gnarface: it doesn't appear that debian itself is being strict or anything... just following the specs doesn't work. Look here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/903422 |
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| 05:04.46 | gnarface | hmmm |
| 05:04.46 | dgriffi | so hopefully that means that Canonical has paid programmers working fulltime on this. |
| 05:05.12 | gnarface | maybe samsung released a new sub-revision of the hardware that changed out some critical component that wasn't supposed tobehave any differently, but did |
| 05:05.28 | gnarface | but yea, you'd think that's a high priority |
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| 05:06.04 | gnarface | hopefully canonical actually has access to the hardware specs they need |
| 05:07.13 | gnarface | hasn't really messed with any of that yet |
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| 05:07.44 | gnarface | is totally distracted with the raspberry pi |
| 05:08.52 | gnarface | dgriffi: also, #debian-offtopic is generally more receptive to kvetching |
| 05:09.22 | gnarface | dgriffi: this channel is supposed to be reserved for debian-specific support issues |
| 05:09.55 | gnarface | dgriffi: i'm not an op so i can't do anything about it; i'm just warning you because not all the ops will always give a polite warning |
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| 05:19.04 | gnarface | there is also a debian-arm channel either here or on oftc that might be useful |
| 05:19.09 | gnarface | woops, mistell |
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| 05:19.58 | Infiltrator | I think that there is a ##debian-arm; but it's just empty. |
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| 05:22.02 | gnarface | well, one server just has a placeholder channel that boots you back out and tells you to join the other server |
| 05:22.10 | gnarface | but i can't remember if the real one is here or on oftc |
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| 05:22.27 | gnarface | the channel topic or bot response when the wrong one kicks you should make it clear though |
| 05:22.30 | gnarface | you just have to actually read it |
| 05:22.41 | gnarface | rather than assuming its "invite only" |
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| 05:23.06 | gnarface | (only the fake one is invite-only to keep the conversations from fragmenting unnecessarily) |
| 05:23.23 | gnarface | unless by "empty" you mean there isn't many people |
| 05:23.29 | gnarface | because there probably aren't |
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| 05:23.59 | gnarface | i guess i havn't peaked my head in there for half a year so maybe its abandoned but somehow i doubt it... |
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| 05:27.59 | boudiccas | new computer, new question regarding speaker connections. one green, one pink, and one blue, and i've only got a green one and no sound from speakers. what does the green one do please? |
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| 05:29.08 | LtL | boudiccas: green is typically stereo output, main speakers. |
| 05:30.06 | boudiccas | LtL: ah, thanks, thats good news, in which case i just need to find out why my speakers dont give sound |
| 05:30.10 | LtL | fact is i've never seen green 'not' be just that. |
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| 05:33.49 | LtL | ivan``: backports.debian.org release version will get you 17.0.1 iceweasel |
| 05:34.02 | LtL | wrong window, sorry |
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| 05:37.49 | Infiltrator | boudiccas: Does your software think that it has sound? |
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| 05:40.44 | Infiltrator | boudiccas: Whether amixer, or whatever else you have installed. |
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| 05:43.47 | boudiccas | Infiltrator: i've installed 'pavucontrol' and unmuted everything, but i still dont get any sound. in mpd and using 'ncmpcpp' as the client it shows that "my ALSA " is running, but i cant change the volume at all, it stays at zero |
| 05:44.10 | boudiccas | i also get no sound with xmms2 |
| 05:45.14 | Infiltrator | boudiccas: Do you know what sound card you have? You may have to install the firmware-* package for it. |
| 05:45.36 | boudiccas | Infiltrator: sysdefault:CARD=Generic_1 HD-Audio Generic, ALC662 rev1 Analog Default Audio Device |
| 05:48.42 | Infiltrator | boudiccas: Realtek. |
| 05:49.00 | boudiccas | Infiltrator: yes |
| 05:49.02 | Infiltrator | Also, I think that lspci would have told that to you as well. |
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| 05:49.52 | boudiccas | Infiltrator: 00:01.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI BeaverCreek HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6500D and 6400G-6600G series] |
| 05:50.31 | jagginess | boudiccas, "list sinks" .. should say your alsa hardware path --- run this command after getting to a prompt with pacmd (the path would be something like devices/pci0000:00/ ) << pulse uses "alsa" as a sink to ultimately play of course so you do need alsa listed as a sink |
| 05:50.44 | jagginess | (pacmd<enter>) |
| 05:52.09 | jagginess | boudiccas, when you do ls -la /dev/snd <enter> do you see T+ for 'other' in the ugo permissions ? |
| 05:52.13 | ry|an | nothing good ever comes out of using pulseaudio |
| 05:53.15 | boudiccas | jagginess: yes, 10 t+ |
| 05:53.30 | Infiltrator | ry|an: What would you reccommend? Just ALSA? |
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| 05:54.00 | jagginess | boudiccas, this means consolekit/<> is taking care of allowing the logon user to have access to the sound devices.. |
| 05:54.14 | jagginess | boudiccas, (so your user doesn't need to be in an audio group) |
| 05:54.34 | boudiccas | jagginess: ah right, thanks for explaining that bit |
| 05:54.37 | jagginess | boudiccas, did you find an alsa sink? |
| 05:54.56 | jagginess | boudiccas, yeah.. actually it's tricky.. it's documented on the home pulseaudio site.. it made my headspin.. |
| 05:55.16 | jagginess | boudiccas, but pretty much that's what pulseaudio ultimately uses to play sound.. it needs an alsa sink to play locally |
| 05:55.43 | jagginess | boudiccas, (if i picked it up correctly.. one should avoid a certain configuration with ALSA.. so that you don't get a "loop" effect) |
| 05:56.44 | boudiccas | jagginess: slow down, i have to swap desktop to get back to my terminal and then back again to xchat, and it all takes this aged lady time |
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| 05:57.04 | jagginess | boudiccas, i actually am able to have a synchronous audio over two speaker stations.. only pulseaudio can allow this (using anetwork sink ) |
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| 05:57.10 | boudiccas | jagginess: yes, alsa sink, when i 'list-sink' in 'pacmd' |
| 05:57.45 | jagginess | boudiccas, do you get a long ugly hardware path like pci000 ? |
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| 05:58.38 | boudiccas | jagginess: card: 1 <alsa_card.pci-0000_00_14.2> |
| 05:58.41 | jagginess | boudiccas, also module-console kit should obvious already be loaded too (which i have as well) |
| 05:59.02 | jagginess | boudiccas, since you have T+ on the /dev/snd entries.. |
| 05:59.58 | jagginess | boudiccas, ok.. i have had a problem with a typical setup here.. i know vlc/players have options to select their audio output if they see multiple of them.. are you using such a player? |
| 06:00.19 | boudiccas | how do i find the module-console kit in the terminal? i cant CTRL+F to bring up a search dialogue, so i'm stumped |
| 06:00.26 | jagginess | boudiccas, (meaning i have experienced this similar) |
| 06:00.36 | jagginess | boudiccas, should be in the same list |
| 06:00.37 | boudiccas | jagginess: no, i'm trying to setup mpd |
| 06:00.42 | jagginess | boudiccas, yeah.. i have that :) |
| 06:00.43 | jagginess | lol |
| 06:00.48 | jagginess | boudiccas, hmm |
| 06:00.56 | jagginess | boudiccas, lol.. whatta coincidence hehehe |
| 06:01.08 | jagginess | boudiccas, but mpd is not a music player.. |
| 06:01.15 | jagginess | boudiccas, :) |
| 06:01.27 | boudiccas | jagginess: i've just started vlc so am going to investigate sound there |
| 06:01.33 | jagginess | boudiccas, hold on.. |
| 06:01.43 | boudiccas | k |
| 06:01.51 | jagginess | boudiccas, mpd has poor documentation.. so i can explain it if you'd like to get a tip here.. |
| 06:02.10 | boudiccas | jagginess: go ahead please, i'm lost without it |
| 06:02.13 | jagginess | boudiccas, the output modules for mpd --> "pulse" takes a "network" parameter. |
| 06:02.31 | boudiccas | is this in mpd.conf? |
| 06:02.37 | jagginess | boudiccas, the output "alsa" << plays the the mpd's station's local speakers.. |
| 06:02.48 | jagginess | boudiccas, yes.. mpd.conf (manpage) |
| 06:02.59 | jagginess | boudiccas, also the sample file gives a convenient hint.. |
| 06:03.05 | boudiccas | yes, its only running on this one machine and nowhere else |
| 06:03.06 | jagginess | boudiccas, here's the thing.. |
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| 06:04.40 | boudiccas | jagginess: in mpd.conf i have under "alsa" 'device"hw:0,0"' but i get no sound |
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| 06:09.02 | boudiccas | hmm, no sound either in vlc |
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| 06:11.05 | gnarface | boudiccas: hw:0,0 can't share amongst programs. your window manager or even a crashed vlc zombie process could be tying it up keeping other programs from making sound |
| 06:11.49 | gnarface | boudiccas: if its performance sensitive audio you could just turn off sound effects in your window manager (and then restart X) and all other programs playing audio at the moment, |
| 06:11.54 | gnarface | or you could use plug:dmix instead |
| 06:12.12 | gnarface | (which should be sufficient for even software-fallback mixing if you're only doing a couple stereo streams) |
| 06:12.35 | boudiccas | gnarface: but is it actually 'hw:0,0'? how do i find out, this is the mpd.conf from my old machine restored from backups |
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| 06:13.30 | gnarface | boudiccas: hw:0,0 is always the primary pcm hardware playback channel. and hw:0,1 is always the recording one. everything i said is untrue though if your soundcard supports *hardware* muxing (only high-end creative labs stuff does these days. onboard shit never will) |
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| 06:13.48 | gnarface | boudiccas: aplay -L though, i think is the command you're looking for |
| 06:14.00 | gnarface | either that or aplay -l |
| 06:14.55 | gnarface | the first one shows your logical alsa devices, the second one shows you physical alsa devices - the list is entirely driver+hardware dependent. don't expect any two separate models of cards to behave even remotely differently, especially when it comes to recording channels |
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| 06:14.55 | gnarface | boudiccas: ^^^ |
| 06:15.14 | boudiccas | yes, slow down, i'm trying to read it all and i cant assimilate it so quickly |
| 06:15.27 | gnarface | sorry, even remotely *the same* i meant, not differently |
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| 06:15.51 | gnarface | different cards will look utterly different in alsamixer and behave even sometimes fundamentally differently |
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| 06:16.10 | gnarface | because alsamixer just autogenerates an interface from driver cues or something |
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| 06:16.52 | gnarface | took me forever and a half to figure out how to record with my onboard hda_intel chip; finally figured out only one of the three audio input channels could be selected at a time and the button to do that in alsamixer was "spacebar" |
| 06:17.05 | gnarface | never something i'd had to know on a creative labs card |
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| 06:17.27 | gnarface | but creative labs cards almost all have hardware muxing still, even though almost nobody else bothers anymore |
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| 06:17.53 | jagginess | got disconnected.. boudiccas you there? |
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| 06:18.29 | boudiccas | i dont get sound with mpd and alsa, and neither with xmms2, so its not something in my conf for mpd |
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| 06:18.37 | boudiccas | jagginess: aye |
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| 06:18.44 | jagginess | boudiccas, what client are you using? |
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| 06:18.50 | jagginess | boudiccas, hmm |
| 06:18.57 | jagginess | boudiccas, well here.. |
| 06:18.59 | boudiccas | jagginess: ncpmmpm |
| 06:19.12 | jagginess | boudiccas, with an "mpd" client.. you ask to "update" it's database list.. |
| 06:19.28 | boudiccas | make that ncmpcpp |
| 06:19.42 | jagginess | boudiccas, then you're able to play songs after.. there is also a console test apps that can do it.. but the GMPC client can do it for you graphically |
| 06:19.51 | jagginess | boudiccas, you need an mpd cleint.. gmpc is an easy one |
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| 06:20.36 | jagginess | boudiccas, yeah.. so you can "trigger" commands to the mpd server.. |
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| 06:20.58 | jagginess | boudiccas, mpd.ogg << is nothing if you hadn't initiated an "database" update and a "music queue".. |
| 06:21.15 | boudiccas | k, let me get this 'gmpc' then |
| 06:21.18 | jagginess | boudiccas, then you can call http://<>:8000/mpd.ogg with anything |
| 06:21.28 | jagginess | boudiccas, yeah.. you can do it the cli client too |
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| 06:21.51 | jagginess | boudiccas, and you can start streaming the player to the mpd.ogg path.. or you can use gmpc that does both for you |
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| 06:22.59 | jagginess | boudiccas, also it' s abit misleading the gmpc plugin --- the plugin is called "shout" that works with mpd .. which the author's "should" change to avoid confusion.. you're not connecting to a shout server.. |
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| 06:23.38 | boudiccas | right, gmpc gives an error message saying that mpd has problems opening audio device |
| 06:24.13 | jagginess | boudiccas, post your mpd.conf (pastebin) |
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| 06:25.25 | boudiccas | jagginess: http://dpaste.com/867590/ |
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| 06:26.00 | jagginess | boudiccas, duh -> bind_to_address"localhost" |
| 06:26.46 | boudiccas | jagginess: whats wrong with that? it worked on the old computer |
| 06:26.49 | jagginess | boudiccas, you're not even listening/reading to anything i'm telling you |
| 06:26.57 | jagginess | boudiccas, . |
| 06:26.57 | jagginess | . |
| 06:26.57 | boudiccas | yes i am |
| 06:26.58 | jagginess | . |
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| 06:27.16 | KsM | jagginess: for gmpc to give that error messsage means its connecting to mpd |
| 06:27.19 | jagginess | boudiccas, also you didnt setup the httpd output section. |
| 06:27.21 | KsM | which means that's fine |
| 06:27.31 | jagginess | ignores Ksm |
| 06:27.31 | KsM | the httpd output section is completely optional |
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| 06:27.39 | jagginess | duh |
| 06:27.47 | jagginess | -> "localhost" << is his binded address |
| 06:27.48 | KsM | so how is it relevant |
| 06:27.48 | KsM | at all |
| 06:27.55 | KsM | that's the address for mpd to bind to |
| 06:27.59 | KsM | so the client can connect |
| 06:28.04 | KsM | in this case, gmpc |
| 06:28.11 | jagginess | boudiccas, you are using two separate physical machines? |
| 06:28.16 | jagginess | boudiccas, y/n? |
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| 06:28.37 | boudiccas | jagginess: no, one only, this machine is a stand-alone |
| 06:28.42 | jagginess | boudiccas, doesn't make sense to use "localhost" it's only a default protective measure |
| 06:28.53 | KsM | that's completely irrelvant |
| 06:28.57 | jagginess | boudiccas, then you should of said so.. it's impractical.. but you should be able to do so .. |
| 06:29.21 | Skilz | How do I change my keymap/keyboard? |
| 06:29.37 | Skilz | When I type symbles like ~ and | they come up as something else. |
| 06:29.44 | KsM | boudiccas: does `alsamixer` work? |
| 06:29.50 | boudiccas | so as a stand alone i dont need a httpd streaming server |
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| 06:29.55 | Infiltrator | Skilz: In a DE or at the console? |
| 06:30.00 | boudiccas | KsM: how to check please? |
| 06:30.06 | Skilz | console |
| 06:30.10 | KsM | run the command alsamixer in a terminal |
| 06:30.11 | KsM | err |
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| 06:30.14 | Infiltrator | Skilz: /etc/default/keyboard |
| 06:30.22 | KsM | but I think that requires you to install alsa-utils |
| 06:30.29 | KsM | if its not already installed |
| 06:30.35 | jagginess | boudiccas, is mpd running ? netstat -plutn |
| 06:30.45 | jagginess | boudiccas, should say port 6600 listening.. |
| 06:30.58 | boudiccas | KsM: yes, pretty! :) |
| 06:30.59 | KsM | 01:27.01 < KsM> jagginess: for gmpc to give that error messsage means its connecting to mpd |
| 06:31.12 | Skilz | Infiltrator: Is there some some program or config thing like dpkg-reconfigure ? |
| 06:31.47 | jagginess | boudiccas, .. |
| 06:31.53 | boudiccas | jagginess: no, mpd is NOT running |
| 06:32.06 | jagginess | boudiccas, asking to confirm the port #. |
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| 06:32.20 | Infiltrator | Skilz: I think that if have it installed you can dpkg-reconfigure console-data or something along those lines. |
| 06:32.41 | boudiccas | doesnt show up in the column of pid/programme name at all |
| 06:32.45 | Infiltrator | s/console-data/console-setup |
| 06:32.55 | jagginess | boudiccas, if you use mpd with "alsa" output .. why are you trying to "stream" it << |
| 06:33.01 | jagginess | boudiccas, .. |
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| 06:33.09 | ksuhku | jagginess, take it easy dude |
| 06:33.12 | jagginess | boudiccas, and to the "local" stream machine ? |
| 06:33.25 | boudiccas | jagginess: i'm not trying to stream it, i'm just trying to get it working again |
| 06:33.31 | jagginess | boudiccas, and to the "local" stream client ? << you'll be trying to have 2 apps play exactly the same musical score.. |
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| 06:33.51 | jagginess | boudiccas, working on localhost? |
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| 06:34.07 | boudiccas | there is NO stream machine, this si a standalone |
| 06:34.09 | jagginess | boudiccas, yeah.. you're letting the mpd server do the actual playing.. |
| 06:34.43 | jagginess | boudiccas, that's not very practical.. but you should be able to connect to it locally.. albeit only for musical queuing.. |
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| 06:35.20 | bniels | why is a standalone mpd server not practical? i find it very practical indeed |
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| 06:35.28 | Skilz | Infiltrator: That wasn't quite what I was after |
| 06:35.52 | jagginess | bniels, "server" implies non-localhost |
| 06:35.59 | Skilz | It's set to pc105 what is that? |
| 06:36.47 | boudiccas | jagginess: i've just saved mpd.conf and doen a 'service mpd restart' and then started 'gmpc' and still no sound |
| 06:36.50 | jagginess | boudiccas, disable the "alsa" output module.. and you'll be find (in the mpd.conf file) |
| 06:36.57 | Infiltrator | Skilz: A keyboard set, I think. |
| 06:37.16 | KsM | jagginess: why would he disable that |
| 06:37.18 | jagginess | boudiccas, enable the httpd module .. and then use the "shout" plugin with gmpc .. use http://localhost:6600/mpd.conf in that url box |
| 06:37.29 | KsM | why would he do that |
| 06:37.49 | KsM | he wants mpd to actually play the music, doesn't he? |
| 06:37.56 | jagginess | boudiccas, then maybe gmpc or mplayer would be able to play the stream.. perhaps mpd is hooking on to the audio hardware |
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| 06:38.10 | boudiccas | erm, i'm not a 'he' , i'm actually female! |
| 06:38.11 | jagginess | boudiccas, (according to that mpd.conf .. "alsa" output -- it's trying to play to the output) |
| 06:38.18 | KsM | jagginess: |
| 06:38.20 | KsM | gmpc |
| 06:38.22 | KsM | connects |
| 06:38.25 | KsM | and controls mpd |
| 06:38.29 | KsM | it doesn't stream from it |
| 06:38.46 | ksuhku | ^^ |
| 06:38.50 | wols | boudiccas: on the internet everyone is a dog. and I'd rather be a male dog than a bitch :P |
| 06:38.56 | KsM | does this make sense now? |
| 06:39.13 | ksuhku | boudiccas, try replacing localhost with 127.0.0.1 |
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| 06:39.23 | Kondor | Nmap done: 100000 IP addresses (6124 hosts up) |
| 06:40.25 | KsM | boudiccas: a) start mpd, b) connect with gmpc, c) do a database update, d) add music and try to play it |
| 06:40.35 | jagginess | I already told her that. |
| 06:40.45 | jagginess | (15 minutes ago-- too late.. but nice try again) |
| 06:41.29 | KsM | jagginess: so far I've only really see you complain about what the bind address is and what outputs are being used |
| 06:41.37 | jagginess | good luck boudiccas |
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| 06:41.48 | boudiccas | right, mpd is now playing with no problems, exccept i cant hear it |
| 06:42.12 | Zharf | isn't that a problem? :p |
| 06:42.21 | ksuhku | the moral of the jagginess story? dont drink and irc |
| 06:42.41 | KsM | boudiccas: try messing with the audio settings via alsamixer? |
| 06:43.00 | KsM | maybe uncomment 01:31.38 < boudiccas> jagginess: no, mpd is NOT running |
| 06:43.03 | KsM | err |
| 06:43.08 | KsM | uncomment #mixer_device"default" |
| 06:43.44 | boudiccas | KsM: alsa is not running so mixer-device default isnt necessary |
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| 06:44.13 | KsM | err |
| 06:44.26 | KsM | so how are you planning to listen to it |
| 06:44.41 | boudiccas | through its client of gmpc |
| 06:45.25 | KsM | gmpc only controls mpd, mpd handles the audio, even if gmpc actually still played the music itself it'd need alsa unless you're using OSS for some reason |
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| 06:50.48 | monkeymon | clear |
| 06:50.51 | monkeymon | ls |
| 06:51.04 | guest8593 | how to kill a connection showed over netstat -n? |
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| 06:54.09 | Infiltrator | guest8593: Depends on which process has the connection open. |
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| 06:54.33 | Infiltrator | guest8593: You can usually ask that process to close the connection. |
| 06:55.18 | guest8593 | how to show all connections over the machine? |
| 06:55.33 | guest8593 | and how to ask that process |
| 06:56.00 | guest8593 | if it's not listed on ps and top |
| 06:56.01 | crippledmonk | Just finished net install. x turns off monitor so I have to ctrl+alt+f2 etc and use only terminal. It's a Dell Optiplex 745 Desktop. I beleive the video card is a intel q965/q963. Any ideas |
| 06:57.02 | Infiltrator | guest8593: Do a netstat -p; that will show you which PID owns the connection. |
| 06:57.24 | Infiltrator | guest8593: Then depending on what software that is, you can ask it to terminate the connection; or you can just TERM or KILL it. |
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| 06:57.54 | Infiltrator | crippledmonk: By turn off monitor you mean that it goes blank, right? |
| 06:58.05 | Infiltrator | crippledmonk: No cursor and nothing at all? |
| 06:59.51 | crippledmonk | Infiltrator:It completely puts monitor to sleep. Just before that the monitor displays Unsupported Mode or something then goes to sleep. It comes back on if I hit the button (but is just blank) or if I switch to another console it will turn back on |
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| 07:01.08 | crippledmonk | Graphics worked during install in graphics mode. |
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| 07:02.03 | nmschulte | I have a cryptroot setup, but initramfs is not prompting me for a passphrase. I've run update-initramfs, but it doesn't appear to copy the proper goodies. On my desktop where this is working, all of this was automatic from the installer, and I'd like to replicate that. I can't find the proper bits to frob under /etc/initramfs-tools; they appear identical from my the working to the not. |
| 07:02.14 | nmschulte | What magic did the install twiddle with, and how do I replicate it? |
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| 07:03.37 | Infiltrator | crippledmonk: Have a look at /var/log/X.0.log |
| 07:03.37 | nmschulte | Woah... the non-working installation doesn't even have cryptsetup (and friends) installed as packages; we'll see if that fixes my issues. |
| 07:03.40 | crippledmonk | It did the same thing when I had crunchbang installed and I had no luck getting it going. I since decided to switch and do a fresh install of of debian 6.06 via net install cd. The only thing that has been done on this machine is wiped HD and did deb install. |
| 07:03.52 | Infiltrator | s/X/Xorg/ |
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| 07:04.37 | Infiltrator | crippledmonk: Look for (EE) or (WW) lines. |
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| 07:05.13 | crippledmonk | Infiltrator: brb, switching to anothe console to take a look |
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| 07:08.26 | guest8593 | what about stop sendmail and it appears again running? |
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| 07:09.02 | guest8593 | on ps output, and after some minutes close |
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| 07:11.10 | Infiltrator | guest8593: Then something is probably starting it; look at its parent process. |
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| 07:11.26 | Infiltrator | Most likely a mail server. |
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| 07:11.35 | crippledmonk | Infiltrator: only ww ones. first one said the X11/cyrillic didn't exist and entry was del from path. later in the log a few times there was also ww ones that all said intel (0) assuming version 1.51 is compatible with 1.4. I saw no ee's |
| 07:12.04 | Infiltrator | crippledmonk: Hm. What xserver-xorg-video-* packages do you have installed? |
| 07:13.04 | crippledmonk | whatever the default netinstall uses when you choose the graphics desktop package. |
| 07:13.33 | crippledmonk | should I run apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel? |
| 07:14.10 | Infiltrator | crippledmonk: Try that, yeah. |
| 07:15.19 | crippledmonk | I'll try that and then be back. I jumped into the deep end. I chose to kill xp used the entire hdd for nix. Hopefully I can get this to work. be back in few. |
| 07:15.36 | crippledmonk | Infiltrator:thanks for the help thus far. |
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| 07:16.45 | guest8593 | whats the best way to sniff connections? nc? tcpdump, track? |
| 07:17.01 | crippledmonk | Infiltrator: it said it was alread the newest version. |
| 07:17.31 | Infiltrator | crippledmonk: Purge it and try using the framebuffer (fb, I think). |
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| 07:17.49 | Infiltrator | crippledmonk: fbdev |
| 07:18.40 | wols | check your Xorg.0.log. it seems your videocard sends the wrong frequency to your monitor which shuts down to prevent damage |
| 07:18.54 | wols | if that's the case, a custom xorg.conf would work |
| 07:19.41 | nmschulte | Aha! It looks like the magic is happening via /usr/share/initramfs-tools/ -- which relies on /etc/crypttab; bingo! |
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| 07:21.40 | MooseElkingtons | lahwran, what's up sexy. |
| 07:21.53 | guest8593 | Infiltrator: thank you |
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| 07:24.26 | Infiltrator | guest8593: Personally, I use wireshark. |
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| 07:26.05 | Infiltrator | guest8593: There is no real "best" way. |
| 07:26.39 | guest8593 | tcpdump dont recognize protocols well |
| 07:26.46 | guest8593 | wireshark do that? |
| 07:27.10 | Infiltrator | guest8593: tcpdump just captures; you need to use something else to read that dump. |
| 07:27.16 | crippledmonk | Infiltrator: I ran purge xerver-xorg-video-intel then did reboot and now I'm in gnome. That worked. THANKS |
| 07:28.06 | Infiltrator | crippledmonk: That's not a fix, though. |
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| 07:28.29 | Infiltrator | crippledmonk: Just a workaround/test. |
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| 07:30.24 | crippledmonk | that's ok, I'm here to learn and get help. I tried this process over on crunchbang and we didn't get this far after more than an hour. I thought I should try a vanilla deb install and go from there on this machine. |
| 07:30.55 | JyZyXEL | can somebody check what the default permissions for /var/spool/squid are? |
| 07:31.01 | crippledmonk | Infiltrator: what's next. |
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| 07:32.00 | Infiltrator | crippledmonk: I don't know, sorry. Don't know much about Intel's graphics. |
| 07:32.17 | Infiltrator | crippledmonk: You can hang around here and I'm sure somebody else will know. |
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| 07:34.17 | crippledmonk | earlier someone said something about frequency of the monitor and using a custome xorg config or something like that. I'm guessing they were on the correct general path. |
| 07:34.55 | crippledmonk | Infiltrator: running x this way is Safe for the setup I'm assuming. Is that correct? |
| 07:35.15 | Infiltrator | crippledmonk: What do you mean by "this way"? |
| 07:35.43 | Infiltrator | And yeah, give that the frequency thing a shot. Your monitor should say what range it wants. |
| 07:35.56 | JyZyXEL | can somebody do 'ls -l /var/spool/squid' and tell me what the default permissions are? |
| 07:35.58 | crippledmonk | by purging the intel thing |
| 07:36.24 | Infiltrator | crippledmonk: Ah, yeah. You can run on -mesa or -fbdev without problems; you just won't get the most out of your card. |
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| 07:38.45 | Coffeecoco | i just loaded quagga on a linux box |
| 07:38.51 | Coffeecoco | and fake generated 300k bgp routes |
| 07:38.57 | Coffeecoco | sent it to a router :P |
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| 07:54.07 | boudiccas | when loading 'xmms2d' in a terminal, i get this error report repeated ad nauseum '07:23:44 ERROR: ../src/plugins/alsa/alsa.c:278: Sample format (0) not available for playback.' how do i correct it please? |
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| 07:55.21 | JoeHazzers | oh look |
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| 07:55.28 | JoeHazzers | someone who doesn't know how to authenticate! |
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| 07:56.07 | boudiccas | is that at me JoeHazzers ? |
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| 07:58.13 | crippledmonk | well base install is done, mutt setup for my gmail. |
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| 07:59.33 | rasusto | anybody here familiar with linux framebuffer? |
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| 08:01.18 | civillian | I'm seeing Bad header line for apt-get update on security.debian.org, can anyone else verify this? |
| 08:01.25 | Infiltrator | crippledmonk: Had any luck setting the frequency? |
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| 08:02.02 | Infiltrator | civillian: Works Here (tm) |
| 08:02.33 | ksuhku | rasusto, ask away, no guarantees |
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| 08:03.17 | civillian | thanks Infiltrator |
| 08:03.37 | dgriffi | civillian: looks okay to me |
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| 08:04.10 | civillian | dgriffi: thanks, checking ISP routes now |
| 08:04.27 | rasusto | I am using an nvidia graphics card with two video outputs. I want to have two framebuffers, one for each output. Right now I have one framebuffer /dev/fb0 which is displayed on both outputs. Any idea how I can get a separate fb for each output? |
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| 08:04.47 | dgriffi | civillian: I will sometimes see stuff like that with connectivity burps |
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| 08:05.20 | dgriffi | civillian: it'll time out, give 404, or something else... then do it again (and maybe again) and it works |
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| 08:08.35 | ksuhku | rasusto, try using modinfo on the fb module |
| 08:08.36 | crippledmonk | Infiltrator:not just yet. I haven't went any further either. been playing with other stuff. I'm able to watch yt vids fine and do basic stuff. That's fine for now. I'll look into the frequency thing tomorrow most likely. |
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| 08:09.10 | crippledmonk | Deb's up and running and NO XP on the box at all anymore!..happy camper thus far. |
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| 08:10.09 | Infiltrator | crippledmonk: Hahaha. Enjoy, then. |
| 08:10.16 | dgriffi | crippledmonk: just remember that you have to explicitly tell wicd the interface name for the wifi |
| 08:10.39 | crippledmonk | No wifi on this desktop. |
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| 08:11.01 | dgriffi | crippledmonk: what release are you running? |
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| 08:11.40 | crippledmonk | It's a Dell optiplex 745 intel core2duo. I installed 6.06 net install |
| 08:11.53 | bitg | debian, windoze, mobile OS, all have purpose :) |
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| 08:12.46 | dgriffi | crippledmonk: ah.. if you go for wheezy, be sure to check out MATE |
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| 08:12.56 | ksuhku | bitg, windoze, mobile OS, all have their own irc channels |
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| 08:13.45 | caboche | Hi |
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| 08:14.02 | Infiltrator | ksuhku: The #bitg channel is empty. :( |
| 08:14.04 | crippledmonk | they do. I personally have used many. Win 3.1.1 and up to 7, Mac since puma to mountain lion various nix's. It's just been in the past year I've been working towards linux solely (attempting anyhow). |
| 08:14.14 | bitg | ksuhku: I'd rather discuss Serbian |
| 08:14.25 | bitg | debian |
| 08:14.34 | rasusto | ksuhku: I'm not sure the name of the module |
| 08:15.06 | caboche | Does anyone know about the status of dbi-link on testing for amd64? |
| 08:15.36 | ksuhku | rasusto, FWIW on ati/amd it's radeonfb |
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| 08:15.50 | crippledmonk | The wife's dell is setup dual boot win7 and CrunchBang linux. She thus far loves the crunchbang linux. She hasn't been in windows since christmas. |
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| 08:16.35 | rasusto | ksuhku: I'm using nvidia, the framebuffer is named nouveaufb, however that isn't the name of the module |
| 08:17.15 | Infiltrator | crippledmonk: Wish my wife would even give it a shot. She's stanchly against using anything but windoze. |
| 08:17.45 | ksuhku | rasusto, try lsmod|grep fb |
| 08:17.54 | caboche | Infiltrator: as long as it's running, let her. But don't help her if she needs support ;-) |
| 08:17.56 | bitg | I usually run debian for my web servers, Windows for development |
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| 08:18.16 | rasusto | ksuhku: returns nothing :( |
| 08:18.19 | dgriffi | Infiltrator: sit her down in front of Linux and tell her it's a super-secret private build of Windows 9 |
| 08:18.38 | MooseElkingtons | I switched to debian because I couldn't stand windows :/ |
| 08:18.49 | ksuhku | rasusto, what about lsmod|grep nouv |
| 08:19.16 | dgriffi | I bailed out when windows 95 came out |
| 08:19.20 | bitg | the average computer user that tries to use Linux always ends up "hating it" |
| 08:19.36 | crippledmonk | Infiltrator: mine was for a while. Then that pc died and she was on macs until This Christmas and I replaced the emac with a Dell lappy for her with Win7. Gave it a day. She looked at the computer I was using (netbook) with linux and said I wanna play that game. I installed crunchbang on it and she LOVES it. |
| 08:19.40 | JoeHazzers | because the average user of a computer doesn't want to "know about" computers. |
| 08:19.41 | Infiltrator | dgriffi: Hahaha. She won't buy it. |
| 08:19.53 | Infiltrator | caboche: I'd feel too bad doing that. |
| 08:20.01 | Infiltrator | MooseElkingtons: Agree with you. :) |
| 08:20.10 | MooseElkingtons | Windows 2k was okay |
| 08:20.17 | MooseElkingtons | Windows XP was fine |
| 08:20.20 | ksuhku | how bout we talk about debian? |
| 08:20.24 | MooseElkingtons | but then Windows Vista came out.. |
| 08:20.26 | rasusto | we have: nouveau, mxm_wmi, video, ttm, drm_kms_helper, drm, i2c_algo_bit,i2c_core, button |
| 08:20.41 | donkeyrhubarb | bitg: pictures or it didn't happen. average user being exposed to lxde or gnome classic will figure it just fine. |
| 08:20.53 | MooseElkingtons | k ksuhku. |
| 08:20.57 | crippledmonk | Infiltrator: interesting how that worked out. 2 days after Christmas I fired up the emac (was going to put nix on it) the emac died though... |
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| 08:22.09 | bitg | the only time I use a An on Linux is when I run backtrack. I get too annoyed by the interface of the desktop managers |
| 08:22.40 | bitg | sorry I'm typing on a tablet and it is auto completing |
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| 08:23.06 | ksuhku | rasusto, try asking #nouveau |
| 08:23.17 | dgriffi | has anyone here tried that odd combination of opensolaris and debian? I forget the name |
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| 08:24.46 | crippledmonk | Infiltrator: she wanted something faster. The G4 was getting pretty slow and youtube sucked for her. It wasn't really meant as a sneak, just happened that it worked out. Even better for me she asked to switch instead of me forcing it on her. |
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| 08:25.18 | dgriffi | does anyone know offhand how one could petition to take over custody of a package? |
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| 08:26.10 | valdyn | !itp |
| 08:26.10 | dpkg | Intent To Package (ITP) is a Debian <bug> filed against the <wnpp> pseudo-package, to indicate someone is working on packaging a piece of software for Debian. This is done to avoid a duplication of work. |
| 08:27.10 | Infiltrator | crippledmonk: Don't think that that will happen here. :) Also, I know it's my fault for starting it, but we should take this discussion to #debian-offtopic or /msgs. |
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| 08:28.52 | monkeymon | disconnect |
| 08:28.54 | monkeymon | ls |
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| 08:34.09 | jelly-home | dgriffi: [Re: opensolaris] Nexenta OS? Illumian? https://www.illumos.org/projects/illumian |
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| 08:36.33 | dgriffi | jelly-home: that's the one.. Illumian |
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| 08:38.55 | tehrabbitt | hey, trying to install debian mini.iso on hyperv 2012... it comes up to the boot loader screen, but theres no options, I just see the debian "splash", any ideas? |
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| 08:39.21 | tehrabbitt | nvm, it took like 3 full min for it to show up 0_0 |
| 08:40.16 | jelly-home | tehrabbitt: the default kernel in debian 6 isn't well suited for a hyperv VM |
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| 08:40.57 | crippledmonk | Everyone have a good evening. Thanks for the help earlier Infiltrator. |
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| 08:45.46 | jelly-home | tehrabbitt: 3.2 from squeeze-backports works better for me on hyperv 2008. If you're doing a fresh installation kmuto images might fare better. |
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| 08:47.37 | nmschulte | How can I get grub to use UUIDs for root= kernel parameter? I'm on Debian Sid. |
| 08:48.04 | nmschulte | #GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true |
| 08:48.18 | nmschulte | is in my /etc/default/grub -- meaning it should be passed; yes? |
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| 08:58.08 | jelly-home | nmschulte: update-grub ought to be run to activate any changes in that file |
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| 08:58.54 | nmschulte | jelly-home: I've found the issue; the portion of the file that runs grub-probe (grub-mkconfig) that determines the UUID fails to determine it for dm devices. |
| 08:59.13 | nmschulte | which causes grub-mkconfig to fallback to the device path |
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| 09:08.21 | cobra-the-joker1 | Hey guys ... is there an rtmp secure server available for debian ? |
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| 09:12.22 | nmschulte | when I restart, it looks like the machine boots as per normal; BIOS, GRUB, initramfs, ... |
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| 09:14.21 | boudiccas | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:22.57 | Gallomimia | boudiccas i really have no idea. but i must suggest you're missing a library |
| 09:24.22 | boudiccas | Gallomimia: i've installed all the xmms2-plugins available, but its still throwing out that error. just waiting to hear from #alsa |
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| 09:27.55 | Gallomimia | i really have no clue. i can tell you this tho: i really need to learn a crap-ton about sound on linux. that's what i learned today. |
| 09:28.01 | Gallomimia | in fact, i have to write that down. |
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| 09:29.09 | Th0rsten | hi. I hope this is the right channel to ast this: i don't have access to the usb sub system in my virtualbox. after googling i added a group usbusers which should solve the problem but it didn't. virtualbox and its extensions are up to date |
| 09:29.49 | boudiccas | Th0rsten: so what is your question then? |
| 09:30.46 | Th0rsten | what else i could do, but it just came to my mind that i forgot editing the permissions for that group. So I guess i don't have a question :D |
| 09:30.49 | Th0rsten | sry ^^ |
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| 09:32.08 | ksuhku | !next |
| 09:32.09 | dpkg | rattles the #debian tip jar (http://www.debian.org/donations) |
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| 09:34.55 | Th0rsten | where do I find group specific permissions? |
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| 09:40.27 | Gallomimia | Th0rsten what exactly do you mean? |
| 09:41.38 | Gallomimia | oh. i see. you need to add your group to the list of groups your user is in |
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| 09:42.09 | Gallomimia | and then... yeah. the group needs access to whatever special files it needs access to. sounds a very complicated process to me. i know little more than this |
| 09:42.16 | Th0rsten | my user is inside the group, but i still don't have access to the usb subsystem within my virtualbox |
| 09:42.31 | bniels | boudiccas, well, your error message suggests that xmms is trying to feed a sample format to alsa that your soundcard (or its driver, respectively) that it doesn't understand. or maybe you have multiple soundcards in the box (like hdmi + normal) and it's selecting the wrong one as default |
| 09:42.57 | Gallomimia | i think this kind of thing should have some scripts or programs to add these correctly |
| 09:43.46 | Gallomimia | Th0rsten maybe if you get yourself a list of the groups you're in by running 'groups' you'll see a different group meant to do that? who knows... |
| 09:44.03 | Th0rsten | i allready checked that |
| 09:44.21 | Gallomimia | but i'm assuming the next step is adding that group to the file permissions of something in /dev |
| 09:44.31 | Gallomimia | and that's a land i try not to set foot in |
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| 09:47.58 | boudiccas | bniels: ah, one sound card only but it does have hdmi available to it. thanks for the pointer |
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| 09:54.50 | boudiccas | 'cat /proc/asound/cards' shows 2 cards [one really but it has hdmi output], so how do i set one as a default please? |
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| 10:02.24 | Iridos | judd, versions ser |
| 10:02.25 | judd | Package: ser on i386 -- lenny: 0.9.7-1 |
| 10:03.01 | Subfusc | boudiccas: no PulseAudio? |
| 10:03.21 | boudiccas | Subfusc: no sound at all |
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| 10:03.40 | Subfusc | boudiccas: no, I mean, are you running PulseAudio? |
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| 10:04.46 | boudiccas | i'm running what ever works. whatever works i can configure mpd to use |
| 10:04.47 | Iridos | oh... now I see... no i386 version... wondered seeing it on packages.debian.org but not in my repo |
| 10:05.13 | boudiccas | and atm nowt works! |
| 10:05.41 | Subfusc | boudiccas: okay :) |
| 10:06.43 | Iridos | weird. why'd there be an alpha version and armhf but not x86 |
| 10:06.53 | boudiccas | like atm mpd is quite happily playing my music, but no sound is coming out of the speakers. and yes, i've checked, and they are plugged in and has a little green light showing that its working |
| 10:09.16 | Subfusc | boudiccas: little green light? is it a digital port or something? |
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| 10:09.55 | boudiccas | Subfusc: no, the speakers have a little green light showing that they have power to them |
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| 10:10.58 | Subfusc | boudiccas: ah, the powerlight, I follow you. Well, I would suggest installing pulse audio and pavucontrol and set it up from there if you just want it to work |
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| 10:11.57 | brah | Hi. |
| 10:12.08 | jelly | Iridos: because "they" forgot to remove it from the archive, probably |
| 10:12.23 | brah | I have sun java installed, when I try to uninstall it it forces me to install openjdk. I don't want java at all, how do I achieve this? |
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| 10:13.24 | jelly | brah: look at what depends on it, eg. aptitude why sun-java6-jdk |
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| 10:15.10 | brah | ah damn libreoffice |
| 10:16.43 | brah | jelly: How do I get it to list more than one package? |
| 10:16.58 | jelly | hm, no idea |
| 10:17.00 | brah | Every time I run it I get a single one, if I remove that one and run it again it will show me a new one. |
| 10:18.40 | boudiccas | Subfusc: already done, and still no sound |
| 10:19.04 | jelly | brah: the manual says "If the verbosity level is 1 or more, then all the explanations aptitude can find will be displayed, in inverse order of relevance." |
| 10:19.51 | Subfusc | boudiccas: have you tried checking different configuration option and made sure that the application is going to the right sink and that all volume-bars are unmuted and on? |
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| 10:21.51 | Subfusc | brah: you can try apt-cache rdepends sun-java6-jdk |
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| 10:22.36 | jelly | Subfusc: rdepends fails with virtual package dependencies |
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| 10:23.45 | jelly | (ie. if something depends on eg. java-runtime) |
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| 10:24.24 | boudiccas | Subfusc: yes, just now created a .asoundrc so goign to reboot to set various paths including that |
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| 10:25.47 | Subfusc | jelly: hmm, but if you use the virutal package, it will work, right? |
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| 10:28.42 | Shu | Can I stop a mdam check safely? |
| 10:28.43 | jelly | Subfusc: yes, however there's a bunch of virtual packages for java, it's a mess |
| 10:28.48 | Shu | Because it refsues to check faster than 800K/s |
| 10:28.53 | jelly | Package: oracle-j2re1.6 |
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| 10:28.59 | jelly | Provides: java6-runtime-headless, sun-java6-jre, j2re1.6, java-browser-plugin, java-runtime, java-runtime-headless, java-virtual-machine, java2-runtime, java2-runtime-headless |
| 10:29.00 | Shu | and I'm not waiting 40,000 minutes for this thing to worthlessy molestmy disks I/O |
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| 10:29.41 | boudiccas | Subfusc: and still no sound |
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| 10:31.48 | Subfusc | boudiccas: have you checked in the pavucontrol GUI program if there are things you can do ? |
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| 10:32.54 | zetheroo | where can I see what packages are in the base install of Debian wheezy? |
| 10:33.39 | boudiccas | Subfusc: fraid so |
| 10:34.02 | Iridos | jelly, "they" again! They must be them who "hust things up" |
| 10:34.37 | Subfusc | boudiccas: then IDK |
| 10:34.56 | boudiccas | Subfusc: that makes 2 of us! |
| 10:34.56 | jelly | Iridos: the keyword here might be "debports" |
| 10:35.47 | Iridos | jelly, yeah... looked at that first... not sure what exactly it means for this package... but kind of fits together with that this is the source package |
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| 10:40.42 | jelly | I guess it means "not debian" |
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| 10:42.10 | jelly | ooh, x32 |
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| 11:03.16 | sirToast_ | homework sure sucks doesn't it |
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| 11:06.19 | jelly | troybi: this looks like x86 assembly for MS-DOS, are you sure you're in the right place? |
| 11:07.01 | brah | The following packages will be REMOVED: somepackage. dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove somepackage which isn't installed. |
| 11:07.04 | brah | What is going on here? |
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| 11:10.28 | boudiccas | pink, green, blue sockets for soundcard at back of computer. i have the pink plug, is this the speakers one please? as i have no sound at all from my speakers |
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| 11:10.55 | ry|an | green is speakers |
| 11:11.32 | brah | boudiccas: Blue is line-in, pink is microphone, green is line-out. |
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| 11:12.02 | babilen | dpkg: tell brah -about bat |
| 11:12.03 | boudiccas | bugger, that explains why there is no sound then. thanks |
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| 11:14.39 | brah | babilen: Thanks. Here it is: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/d853399a/ |
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| 11:18.12 | babilen | brah: The package has been removed, but has still configuration files installed - Try a "apt-get purge xmame-x" |
| 11:18.48 | brah | babilen: Same output. ignoring the request. |
| 11:18.51 | boudiccas | right, i have a black plug coming from the speakers with a little sticker on it saying 'stereo input on speaker sound source'. would that be the 'green' cable/plug please? these speakers are of ancient vintage, quite probably when i got my first proper PC with windows 95! |
| 11:19.17 | brah | boudiccas: Yes. |
| 11:19.37 | boudiccas | brah: thanks, ill try it then |
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| 11:21.45 | babilen | brah: What does "aptitude search ~c" give you? What about "aptitude search ~b" ? Can you purge the package with "dpkg -P xmame-x" ? |
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| 11:24.25 | brah | babilen: I got a bunch of packages I had already uninstalled with purge, and I was able to run dpkg -P on them all, including xmame-x. |
| 11:24.38 | brah | Now ~b gives out another list of packages which I ahve already uninstalled, and ~c is empty. |
| 11:25.06 | babilen | brah: May I see? |
| 11:25.27 | babilen | brah: The packages in ~b are those that are missing dependencies (i.e. "broken" packages) |
| 11:25.52 | brah | Eh, typo, I never ran ~b. I ran ~c twice :) |
| 11:26.03 | babilen | brah: To summarise: You could successfully remove xmame-x with dpkg -P, but purging it with either aptitude/apt-get did not work. |
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| 11:26.20 | brah | babilen: Yes. Thanks! |
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| 11:26.41 | brah | babilen: Any way to remove+purge all the broken packages in a single command? |
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| 11:27.14 | babilen | brah: "aptitude purge ~b" (you can typically use aptitude's search terms with all commands and not only with search) |
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| 11:29.13 | brah | babilen: Mhh, it did nothing. http://paste.debian.net/hidden/cff663c6/ |
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| 11:30.26 | boudiccas | brah: thanks, i've now got sound but only in xmms2, still got to get mpd working |
| 11:30.57 | buscon | how can I configure a network interface to be and stay down in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 11:31.23 | koollman | buscon: remove the 'auto' line about it |
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| 11:32.06 | shomon | hi, I am getting tired fast of unity.. or the disappearing windows.. not knowing where something is open and having to faff about with the mouse and have everything get smaller all the time because I hit it by accident |
| 11:32.25 | shomon | is there either a guide to using it.. or a way to turn all that off and go back to my noughties style menus? |
| 11:32.28 | buscon | koollman, then it will stay smt like: iface eth0 inet dhcp |
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| 11:32.51 | babilen | brah: Well, lets try removing the missing dependencies -- Could you run "apt-get -f install" (that will install all missing dependencies which fixes (-f) the broken packages) |
| 11:32.55 | koollman | buscon: yes. that's just configuration information. it won't go up automatically |
| 11:33.02 | babilen | *lets try fixing |
| 11:33.04 | boudiccas | shomon: install cinnamon from the experimental/sid repo |
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| 11:33.23 | brah | babilen: Could it be that I haven't installed my updates yet? |
| 11:33.24 | koollman | buscon: it just mean you will be able to do : ifup eth0 , to put it up. (or ifdown eth0) |
| 11:33.34 | buscon | ok, great :) |
| 11:33.35 | buscon | thx |
| 11:34.07 | babilen | brah: No, the packaging system is in an inconsistent state -- try repairing it which should be done by "apt-get -f install" |
| 11:34.09 | brah | shomon: That's Gnome3's fault, nothing to do with Unity. You can try fallback mode, but I believe they will remove it soon. |
| 11:34.20 | brah | babilen: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 184 not upgraded. |
| 11:34.27 | babilen | shomon: unity is not in Debian -- are you mayhaps using Ubuntu? |
| 11:34.44 | shomon | babilen: I don't know what it is.. I thought it was called unity |
| 11:34.58 | shomon | it's this hellish window interface |
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| 11:35.24 | babilen | shomon: Something like http://www.gnome.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/web-app.png ? |
| 11:35.41 | shomon | if you go to a corner you get all the windows like that yes |
| 11:35.58 | buscon | koollman, can I also set a network interface 'down' in that file? |
| 11:36.19 | babilen | brah: Ok, the wonders of a broken testing installation. /Can/ you perform a dist-upgrade ? |
| 11:36.59 | shomon | oh no, so gnome 3 has done this to me! argh I may finally switch to kde or something |
| 11:37.28 | brah | babilen: It doesn't seem broken to me, but i'll take your word on it. Anyway, I'm downloading the updates now. |
| 11:37.33 | babilen | shomon: Well, if you don't want that desktop environment you are free to use a different one. XFCE4 is a common choice - Check http://www.xfce.org and read "/msg dpkg install xfce" for installation instructions |
| 11:37.52 | shomon | is there some interface to put on debian that won't do all that wonder cr*p? ah thanks! |
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| 11:38.36 | boudiccas | shomon: you could try lxde, nice and plain and simple and doesn't get in your way and just allows you to do your thing! |
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| 11:39.17 | shomon | thanks and nice nick |
| 11:39.22 | babilen | shomon: There are plenty of alternatives and we can not tell you what you would like. Take a look at desktop environments such as LXDE and KDE in addition to XFCE. Another approach is to use a window manager and I would recommend to investigate fluxbox, aweseomwm, fvwm and i3 for a good overview. |
| 11:39.55 | shomon | I used to like windowmaker back in the day, but I'll have a gander at these, thanks :) |
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| 11:41.00 | sirToast | windowmaker ftw |
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| 11:42.00 | sirToast | with these themes: http://lonelymachines.org/windowmaker-themes/ |
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| 11:44.16 | koollman | buscon: that file contains how to configure an interface (with the iface parts), and which one should be put up at boot (with the 'auto' part). if an interface is already up, use 'ifdown interfacename' in a root shell to put it down |
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| 11:50.39 | shomon | lol thanks sirToast :) |
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| 11:57.59 | Zitter | hi, where is asoundconf? there is not in alsa-utils pkg |
| 11:58.13 | Zitter | or anyway a tool to choose default soundcard |
| 11:58.34 | babilen | Zitter: Are you using Pulseaudio or plain Alsa? |
| 11:59.36 | Zitter | sorry, I don't know. How to know it? Debian Squeeze with Gnome 2.x |
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| 12:00.18 | babilen | Zitter: What does "dpkg -l pulseaudio|tail -n1" give you? What about "pgrep pulseaudio" ? |
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| 12:01.15 | damo22 | what is the easiest way to install and configure a mail server with imap and webmail under debian? |
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| 12:01.26 | Zitter | dpkg return "uninstalled", pgrep returns null |
| 12:01.26 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, Zitter |
| 12:01.43 | Zitter | dpkg, not to you! |
| 12:01.44 | dpkg | Zitter: I give up, what is it? |
| 12:01.57 | babilen | dpkg: tell Zitter -about default alsa |
| 12:01.59 | Zitter | apt-get install pulseaudio ? |
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| 12:04.07 | samba35 | i have setup a iscsi and check with tgt-admin -s it was showing status on and but after reboot i am not able see anything with tgt-admin -s |
| 12:04.13 | babilen | Zitter: You don't need pulseaudio as you can use Alsa directly. Some people prefer using it though - for that you would indeed install the pulseaudio package and configure Alsa to use pulseaudio as default "card" with a /etc/asound.conf like http://paste.debian.net/222781/ -- You would then use pavucontrol (install that!) to configure soundcards/input/outputs/... |
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| 12:05.12 | Zitter | babilen, thanks |
| 12:05.42 | babilen | dpkg: tell Zitter about pulseaudio |
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| 12:07.12 | shomon | babilen: I've installed xfce, but now to get it to switch from gnome3, do I have to change a setting or just log out and in? |
| 12:07.35 | babilen | shomon: Log out and choose XFCE as "Session" (after picking your user) |
| 12:07.43 | shomon | okay thanks |
| 12:07.46 | babilen | np |
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| 12:13.04 | bluenemo | anybody having problems with ejabberd? just found out that two indipendent servers have a corrupted mnesia db, wondering if its after an upgrade. |
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| 12:21.56 | zetheroo | where can I see what packages are in the base install of Debian wheezy? |
| 12:23.19 | babilen | zetheroo: That would be all "essential" packages. I would recommend to install the standard task too (cf. "/msg dpkg standard") |
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| 12:24.24 | zetheroo | babilen: is there somewhere online where one can see what packages are installed when base system is selected for install? |
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| 12:25.15 | babilen | zetheroo: http://paste.debian.net/222787/ (the former comprises essential packages) |
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| 12:30.36 | linuxthefish | why do i get "The following packages have unmet dependencies" for everything i install via apt-get? :/ |
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| 12:31.59 | babilen | dpkg: tell linuxthefish -about bat |
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| 12:34.46 | linuxthefish | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/222791/ |
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| 12:36.23 | wo0f | would i be frowned upon if i asked a Q about NAT in here ^-^ |
| 12:36.24 | wo0f | ? |
| 12:36.39 | linuxthefish | wo0f: just ask |
| 12:36.52 | boudiccas | in my mpd log this appears 'Jan 08 12:28 : output: Failed to open "My ALSA Device" [alsa]: Failed to open ALSA device "Generic_1": No such file or directory' and yet xmms2 plays with its alsa-plugin, so how do i get a working default alsa device please? |
| 12:36.58 | babilen | linuxthefish: openjdk-7-jdk is not in squeeze and it looks as if you have a very unhealthy mix of debian releases and third-party repositories there. You can not install openjdk-7 on squeeze from testing/wheezy and you /should never/ mix in packages from dotdeb. What are you trying to use? Squeeze? Wheezy? ... |
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| 12:38.18 | linuxthefish | babilen: someone told me to add those as it might help :S |
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| 12:38.32 | linuxthefish | i'm using debian 6 |
| 12:39.31 | linuxthefish | i got told to use "https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bze1HsKezS8uSzJrVjl0QnYxY28/edit?pli=1" but remove the bit at the bottom |
| 12:40.19 | babilen | linuxthefish: Well, that "someone" gave you very bad advice and I would strongly recommend to /not/ mix stable with anything but backports |
| 12:40.34 | linuxthefish | oh... :( |
| 12:40.53 | linuxthefish | !sources |
| 12:40.54 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main". Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <squeeze updates> <squeeze security> and "man sources.list". |
| 12:41.06 | babilen | linuxthefish: What are your objectives? Do you need openjdk-7? Or anything from dotdeb? |
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| 12:41.33 | wo0f | I have an apache server running behind a router. the router's NAT defines connections to port 80 to be passed through to debian, also at port 80. This works fine when connecting via WAN to a domain that points to me, however when connecting from LAN it merely takes me to the router's port 80 web interface- thus i have to connect to it directly using its local IP. ----- How can i connect via my domain name- i.e. as if it were a WAN request??? is th |
| 12:41.53 | linuxthefish | i just need a JRE, though when i installed Debian from my USB stick it disabled some of the sources |
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| 12:43.09 | babilen | linuxthefish: But lets assess the damage. Could you paste the output of "dpkg -l libc6 multiarch-support apt", "aptitude search ~Vdotdeb" and paste it to http://paste.debian.net please? |
| 12:43.26 | LZ2ILR | hi folks, is anyone free to help me? |
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| 12:44.21 | TheGrey_ | o/ Any linux journal/diary that support images when backed up? I 've just imported a rednotebook diary and it seem to not support image importage from a backup...also a lightweight screendump tool would be great...I've heard of gnome-screenshot, but will I need to install full gnome for that? Much love, Grey |
| 12:44.44 | linuxthefish | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/222799/ |
| 12:44.48 | babilen | linuxthefish: You really should /never/ ever mix releases like that. Doing that /will/ break your system -- Whoever told you to do so should be subjected to hours of listening to the cries of system admins around the world :) |
| 12:45.01 | linuxthefish | oh... :( |
| 12:45.07 | linuxthefish | should i just reinstall my server? |
| 12:45.25 | linuxthefish | and it it possible to install Debian without a internet connection? |
| 12:45.32 | LZ2ILR | i am trying to get the right module installed for my network cards, cant seem to find the right ones. how can i list the available modules i could load? |
| 12:45.56 | linuxthefish | LZ2ILR: what card do you have? |
| 12:46.00 | babilen | linuxthefish: You have some packages from dotdeb installed and we (i.e. Debian) cannot support that. Do you need a specific version of PHP? |
| 12:46.07 | linuxthefish | nope |
| 12:46.14 | linuxthefish | i don't even need a webserver |
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| 12:47.15 | babilen | linuxthefish: Alright, I am not sure why you even added dotdeb sources and installed PHP then, but meh. Yes, it /is/ possible to install Debian without an internet connection, but why is that necessary? Will the host simply not be connected to the internet during the installation or will it never be connected? |
| 12:47.44 | LZ2ILR | i have an smc ez connect usb/eth, a rt3070 usb based wifi card, and a zydas that usually works with zd1201 |
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| 12:47.45 | babilen | linuxthefish: What will the host be used for and do you have any need for specific versions of packages (or just the availability of certain packages) ? |
| 12:48.09 | linuxthefish | babilen: i'm using the public wireless, and i need to login to a javascript page to access the internet (can be done with curl once the system is installed) |
| 12:48.21 | linuxthefish | all i need it for is a JRE and Apache with no PHP |
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| 12:48.51 | babilen | linuxthefish: I see - "a JRE" as in version 6 or 7 doesn't matter? Will that box offer services to the outside world? |
| 12:49.05 | linuxthefish | though the debian installer disabled some of my sources... |
| 12:49.06 | LZ2ILR | the module for the zd1201 loaded but its not showing up in iwconfig |
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| 12:49.27 | linuxthefish | i don't mind which version, and it's only got port 80 available to the world |
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| 12:50.10 | babilen | linuxthefish: The sources are simply disabled because the installer did not have an internet connection. You should read "/msg dpkg make squeeze sources.list" and you would end up with something like http://paste.debian.net/222800/ in the end (also read "/msg dpkg http.debian.net" and "/msg dpkg backports") |
| 12:50.47 | babilen | linuxthefish: Which wireless card is used by your system? Could you show me the output of "lspci -nn|grep -i network" please? |
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| 12:51.22 | linuxthefish | ^ directed to LZ2ILR? :P |
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| 12:52.41 | babilen | linuxthefish: No, to you ... I just want to make sure that you have everything you need to connect to the internet after the installation. |
| 12:53.17 | linuxthefish | i'm using wired connected to a router acting as a wireless bridge |
| 12:53.32 | LZ2ILR | ? |
| 12:53.43 | babilen | linuxthefish: Ah, okay. In that case: What does "lspci -nn|grep -n ethernet" give you? |
| 12:54.02 | linuxthefish | nothing |
| 12:54.07 | linuxthefish | root@polo:~# lspci -nn|grep -n ethernet |
| 12:54.08 | linuxthefish | root@polo:~# |
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| 12:54.14 | babilen | tell LZ2ILR -about rt3070 |
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| 12:54.28 | babilen | linuxthefish: Err, make that "lspci -nn|grep -i ethernet" :) |
| 12:54.53 | babilen | LZ2ILR: You might want to read the wiki page -- I don't have time to talk you through this (lunch!) |
| 12:55.02 | babilen | ,pciid 11ab:4363 |
| 12:55.03 | judd | [11ab:4363] is '88E8055 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller' from 'Marvell Technology Group Ltd.' with kernel module 'sky2' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=11ab:4363 http://wiki.debian.org/sky2 |
| 12:55.12 | LZ2ILR | ok, i tried loading all the mods listed, not found |
| 12:55.27 | linuxthefish | babilen: PM'd, debian paste thing won't load for me now |
| 12:55.29 | LZ2ILR | im using an arm system by the way |
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| 12:57.01 | babilen | linuxthefish: Yeah, you should be fine. Just install the base system using the netinstall or CD1 image. Edit your sources.list to look like the one I pasted and run "apt-get update" -- That should be all you need. And please: NEVER mix stable with anything but backports. If you realise that you /do/ need newer versions I would recommend to upgrade to wheezy (the next stable release) or install it directly (using images from ... |
| 12:57.07 | babilen | ... http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/) as we will probably release that in 2-4 months |
| 12:57.10 | babilen | linuxthefish: Good luck! |
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| 12:57.27 | babilen | linuxthefish: It is okay to paste one or two lines of output in here |
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| 12:57.47 | linuxthefish | babilen: thanks a ton! :) |
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| 13:02.18 | linuxthefish | will I only need CD-1? |
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| 13:02.57 | troybi | how can i make a c file in debian? |
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| 13:04.12 | sephii | troybi: what do you mean by "make a c file"? compile it with make? |
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| 13:05.24 | troybi | no.i have some code in my openoffice now i want build it's .c |
| 13:05.34 | troybi | got it? |
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| 13:06.09 | sephii | troybi: don't use openoffice for writing code, use a plain text editor such as vi or any other graphical editor |
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| 13:06.51 | troybi | ok.what should i do now? |
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| 13:07.10 | troybi | write it in nano for example and make it? |
| 13:07.17 | troybi | i mean make command? |
| 13:07.23 | sephii | troybi: run your plain text editor (there's usually one that comes bundled with your DE) and copy-paste your code into it |
| 13:07.47 | sephii | troybi: yes you can use nano for example. then just run gcc on it |
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| 13:09.05 | troybi | run : gcc myfilename ?what is the exact command? |
| 13:09.22 | phogg | troybi: seems like you need a how-to-write-in-c tutorial |
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| 13:10.32 | phogg | troybi: this seems like it might help: http://www.linfo.org/create_c1.html |
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| 13:13.39 | troybi | phogg: thanks |
| 13:14.19 | TheGrey_ | recommend a linux diary? |
| 13:14.32 | plotino | hello |
| 13:14.34 | plotino | psrdon |
| 13:14.37 | plotino | pardon |
| 13:14.47 | plotino | but debian squeeze is debian 7<' |
| 13:14.51 | linuxthefish | what did you say? |
| 13:15.19 | plotino | debian 7 is squeeze? |
| 13:15.49 | sephii | plotino: squeeze is debian 6 |
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| 13:17.54 | plotino | thanks |
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| 13:18.19 | mschoolbus | I have an AMD C70 apu and I am looking for an accelerated 3d driver to use, I am not having any luck! |
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| 13:22.51 | lroe | how important is it to use as close to identical drives as possible when building an mdadm array? |
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| 13:35.24 | buscon | hi |
| 13:35.29 | buscon | I want to stop the daemon |
| 13:35.36 | buscon | Networkmanager |
| 13:35.53 | buscon | uh |
| 13:35.54 | buscon | sorry |
| 13:35.57 | buscon | just find it :P |
| 13:35.58 | babilen | !enter |
| 13:35.59 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 13:36.02 | frostschutz | lroe: I have a RAID 5 with 2x2TB plus 2TB of a 1x3TB drive, and it works fine despite disks not being identical. |
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| 13:37.31 | lroe | frostschutz, same manufacturer? |
| 13:38.13 | lroe | if so, similar age (firmware and head technology) |
| 13:38.15 | lroe | ? |
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| 13:41.30 | frostschutz | lroe: they're all WD Greens. the 3TB drive is new, 9000 vs. 2000 power on hours. |
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| 13:42.58 | lroe | so they're all 'current gen' hard drives |
| 13:43.21 | frostschutz | lroe: if you already have different drive, just try it and see. otherwise just get identical drives if you're worried about it ;) |
| 13:43.50 | frostschutz | but there shouldn't be problems unless one disk is particularly slow or something |
| 13:44.09 | lroe | the behavior I'm worried about is after some random event a drive will get booted from the array for not performing similarly enough |
| 13:44.38 | fnmueller | the only problem should really arise if the second disk is smaller than the first , the primary one |
| 13:44.57 | fnmueller | in that case, you should be informed though |
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| 13:45.06 | lroe | size is not the concernt |
| 13:45.39 | fnmueller | I see, again, if there are errors, you should get an Email about it |
| 13:45.39 | lroe | the obvious example would be using a 7200 RPM and 5400 RPM (black and green) drive in the same array |
| 13:46.04 | lroe | that is going to cause unpredictable issues |
| 13:46.43 | lroe | and my question is can a 7200 drive from 5 years ago and a 7200 drive from today cause similar problems |
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| 13:47.29 | fnmueller | well, that is the thing about drives - you can never be sure. You will have to try. But I don't think it's likely problems will arise. |
| 13:47.29 | ChrisH | lroe: what 'unpredictable issues' did you see, mixing different disks into one array? |
| 13:47.36 | wols | lroe: yes cause the datarate a lot lower, just like the 5400rpm one |
| 13:48.07 | wols | so if the 5400rpm causes a problem, so will the old lower data density drive from a few years ago |
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| 13:48.43 | fnmueller | but even if one diks is slower, it should not be a problem unless the drive is marked degraded, in which case you would be informed and that problem shoudl arise quite quikly during testing |
| 13:48.44 | lroe | wols, so you would spend a little extra money and get 'similar' gen drives |
| 13:48.52 | frostschutz | lroe: some people reported mdadm ditching drives that were in standby and took too long to wake. but even that, never happened to me so far. I can force one drive put to sleep, access the raid, it waits for the disk to wake and that's it. |
| 13:49.08 | frostschutz | lroe: I think mdadm is very forgiving ;) |
| 13:49.26 | fnmueller | I agree with frostschutz |
| 13:49.35 | lroe | "some people reported mdadm ditching drives that were in standby and took too long to wake." apparently not to 'some people' |
| 13:49.53 | frostschutz | ah who cares about them buggers :D |
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| 13:50.01 | lroe | I'm one of them |
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| 13:50.07 | frostschutz | haha |
| 13:50.19 | fnmueller | it might not even be about the drive, but the controller. There are many factors involved |
| 13:50.25 | lroe | ok. so I think I'm just going to get 3 new 500s |
| 13:50.32 | frostschutz | 500 what? |
| 13:50.40 | lroe | 500G HDDs |
| 13:50.44 | frostschutz | in this day and age? |
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| 13:50.54 | schreber | where does Debian store its default wallpapers? I'm looking for that childish space/rocket one that was default pre-6.0 release (I believe). |
| 13:51.10 | nevyn | I liked spacefun |
| 13:51.35 | wols | lroe: I would cause the slowest hdd in the RAID determines performance. so use same gen drives with similar performance |
| 13:51.45 | buscon | Networkmanager should not handle the interfaces that are defined in /etc/network/interfaces, should it? |
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| 13:52.26 | fnmueller | buscon: in fact I believe it can't, but I am still a wicd user |
| 13:52.27 | lroe | wols what about cache size? |
| 13:52.34 | lroe | my thought is that that matters less |
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| 13:53.20 | buscon | fnmueller, would u suggest do use wicd? |
| 13:53.22 | lroe | frostschutz, yes. Which would you suggest? , http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007603%2050001306%20600003340&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&SrchInDesc=Blue&Page=1&PageSize=20 |
| 13:53.29 | wols | it does, yes |
| 13:53.45 | buscon | I'm getting a bit crazy trying to disable dhcp with network-manager and no graphic interface... |
| 13:53.54 | nevyn | likes nm on laptops |
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| 13:54.18 | sephii | schreber: /usr/share/images/desktop-base? |
| 13:54.32 | schreber | that would be the place. |
| 13:54.33 | nevyn | wols: can't we fix that with raid4 ;) |
| 13:54.34 | bindiff | whats the best binary diff out there? (should work on block devices, too) |
| 13:54.36 | schreber | sephii, thanks |
| 13:55.15 | bindiff | rdiff? xdelta? ... ? |
| 13:55.59 | frostschutz | lroe: 500GB drive is just silly |
| 13:56.20 | fnmueller | buscon: well, I like to be able to use my network connection even before I log in. I like the ncurses frontend as well as the graphical frontend. So, it depends on what you want. NM certainly has a bigger support base by now and is very activly developed. However, it is the question if that is something postive. In the end, it depends on what you are looking for. I just like to be able to configure my systems using vi if necessary and to be abl |
| 13:56.20 | fnmueller | e to use all the good old tools like ifup/ifdown |
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| 13:57.04 | buscon | fnmueller, sounds good, that's what i want too ;) |
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| 13:57.08 | buscon | i'll try it out, thx |
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| 13:57.32 | fnmueller | np :-) |
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| 13:57.36 | bindiff | or even better: is there a tool to save the changes between lvm snapshot and origin? |
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| 14:02.22 | lroe | frostschutz, if I already have 3 500s so the stripe size of the raid will be 500GB, why bother with larger drives? |
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| 14:03.08 | lroe | when the price difference between 500 and 1T is ~$20/drive |
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| 14:03.52 | Towzzer | rebuilds take longer on larger disks |
| 14:03.59 | Towzzer | better to have more smaller disks |
| 14:04.09 | lroe | Towzzer, I agree |
| 14:04.16 | lroe | my case will support ~12 disks |
| 14:04.18 | Towzzer | faster reads, faster rebuilds |
| 14:04.20 | lroe | so might as well use it |
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| 14:04.43 | sephii | but more disks mean more noise, more heat |
| 14:04.44 | lroe | though more disks means a higher likelyhood of failure |
| 14:04.54 | lroe | likelihood* |
| 14:05.11 | lroe | noise and heat are not a concern for this server |
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| 14:09.29 | TheGrey | o/ when is debian 7 going to be stable? Is there a way to be automatically notifed? |
| 14:09.42 | Towzzer | based on the last release and their schedule |
| 14:09.45 | Towzzer | feb/march? |
| 14:10.20 | Towzzer | you can be auto notified by signing up for a star trek forum and checking to see the if activity jumps suddenly |
| 14:10.28 | lroe | ha |
| 14:10.44 | lroe | TheGrey, I would bet the debian-announce mailing-list will helpy ou |
| 14:10.48 | lroe | you* |
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| 14:11.03 | TheGrey | :D and is deb 7 pretty much bug fixed anyway or is it still needing fixes? |
| 14:11.17 | Towzzer | there are open bugs but the package list is frozen I believe |
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| 14:11.21 | Towzzer | I'm using it as stable |
| 14:11.21 | frostschutz | lroe: well, it's your money. I'd rather spend an extra $20 and get somewhat decent hardware than save $20 and get scrap metal. When my 2TB's die they'll be replaced with 3TB or larger, and mdadm works fine on partitions. |
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| 14:11.39 | Towzzer | rebuilding a raid 5 of 4x 3tb takes forever |
| 14:11.43 | lroe | TheGrey, http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ |
| 14:11.50 | Towzzer | I made a backup server with them and it was quite painful |
| 14:12.13 | lroe | frostschutz, so you'd spend $20/drive to have half the drive sitting idle |
| 14:12.28 | TheGrey | cheers |
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| 14:13.42 | Towzzer | short stroke it |
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| 14:14.01 | Towzzer | that's not a masterbation pun, it's a way of increasing speed on disks by using only a portion of the platters |
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| 14:15.23 | buscon | fnmueller, ok, i've installed wicd, how can I disable eth0? |
| 14:15.43 | buscon | /etc/network/interfaces contains no information about eth0 now |
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| 14:16.07 | fnmueller | there should be a way to mark non-backup sectors as backup sectors. That should be great for rliability of the drive if 50%+ of the sectors are backup sectors :D |
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| 14:17.27 | frostschutz | fnmueller: it doesn't work that way |
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| 14:19.18 | fnmueller | frostschutz: I know, I say it shoudl! |
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| 14:19.37 | frostschutz | even if there was a way to mark them it wouldn't work that way |
| 14:19.48 | fnmueller | buscon: you can put it there, I am not on a laptop so I can't look |
| 14:20.04 | fnmueller | frostschutz: it would not ? ;-( |
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| 14:23.13 | fnmueller | buscon: also don't forget about wicd-curses! |
| 14:24.01 | fnmueller | buscon: and read http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Wicd |
| 14:24.01 | LZ2ILR | hi i need some quick help with getting network up on debian please! rather urgent |
| 14:24.37 | buscon | fnmueller, that's what I read :) |
| 14:24.38 | LZ2ILR | none of my adapters (usb) show on iwconfig |
| 14:24.51 | buscon | but my eth0 still trying to get a dhcp address... |
| 14:24.59 | nevyn | LZ2ILR: what sort of adapters are they? |
| 14:25.13 | Shu | Is it safe to modify the queue schedules in /sys/bock/sdX/queue/scheduler and /sys/block/mdX/queue/scheduler ..? |
| 14:25.25 | koollman | Shu: yes |
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| 14:26.01 | jelly | Towzzer: or pay up and use smaller, faster disks, like 600GB 10krpm sas |
| 14:26.07 | Shu | koollman, Just change them both? For some reason messing around with this stuff while on a RAID 1 setup gives me a heartattack, because no one I've spoken to has experience in doing so |
| 14:26.22 | koollman | Shu: why are you messing with them ? :) |
| 14:26.51 | Shu | koollman, I/O issues with the server.. trying to squeeze better performance out of the server |
| 14:27.06 | Shu | http://pastie.org/5648300 |
| 14:27.10 | koollman | Shu: mdX won't have a scheduler. |
| 14:27.10 | Shu | This is basically what I was suggested. |
| 14:27.17 | koollman | just change it on sdX |
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| 14:27.42 | Shu | Ah, right, okay, thank you >_< |
| 14:28.14 | Shu | uhm, hahah, ignore that paste, that's completely wrong |
| 14:28.17 | koollman | line 2 I would use : for i in /sys/block/sd* |
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| 14:28.30 | Shu | http://pastebin.com/mnEnegjb wrong link |
| 14:28.30 | koollman | and the 'rm' seems dubious. I don't think it would do anything |
| 14:28.43 | fnmueller | buscon: ok, so you installed wicd, uninstalled NM, modified the /etc/networks/interfaces according to the link, did /etc/init.d/networking restart, logged in again, open wicd and configured the connection there? |
| 14:28.48 | koollman | Shu: ok. same comment about line 2 |
| 14:29.45 | Shu | Thanks! |
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| 14:30.29 | buscon | m, i did all what you said apart from opening wicd and configuring the connection there... the link you gave me |
| 14:30.31 | buscon | http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Wicd |
| 14:30.37 | buscon | doesn't talk about that... |
| 14:30.44 | buscon | but my connection works |
| 14:30.46 | fnmueller | oh, well, try that :-) |
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| 14:30.50 | fnmueller | sorry about that |
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| 14:34.50 | hje841 | I might be a bit off topic, but do you guys know how to set up a serial connection to a USB modem in C++? |
| 14:36.57 | Th0rsten | im having problems with network in virtualbox. anyone an idea what to look for? |
| 14:37.10 | bindiff | hje841: typically the driver will create a character device you can just open |
| 14:37.54 | hje841 | bindiff, I've got a dev/ttyUSB |
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| 14:38.31 | babilen | Th0rsten: Looking at http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch06.html might be a start |
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| 14:39.16 | fnmueller | buscon: does it work? of not, plink me as I am afk, but my ears are near enough |
| 14:39.19 | babilen | Th0rsten: There is also #vbox for virtualbox specific support and you might want to read Debian specific documentation in /usr/share/doc/virtualbox*/* |
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| 14:39.48 | Th0rsten | thanks |
| 14:40.19 | babilen | Th0rsten: You might also want to be more specific about the actual problem you are having |
| 14:40.47 | hje841 | bindiff, but I'm not sure if I got the right settings in my termios struct for the tcsetattr() call |
| 14:41.19 | babilen | Th0rsten: But I typically use KVM and virsh and can't really help with vbox at all. (I also don't understand why people use it rather than kvm/qemu, but meh) |
| 14:41.20 | Th0rsten | my vm says that there are no available connections. I had internet working before, but it only worked when i had a cable plugged in |
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| 14:41.47 | Th0rsten | no i only have wifi and it does not recognize it |
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| 14:44.04 | Th0rsten | i don't have experience with kvm, but maybe will have a look at it later |
| 14:44.16 | Th0rsten | for now i would prefer getting this to work ^^ |
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| 14:49.03 | bindiff | hje841: typically you don't have to mess with it |
| 14:49.15 | bindiff | hje841: just try: cat /dev/ttyUSB |
| 14:49.53 | bindiff | hje841: if that works reading in c++ would be something like: ifstream is("/dev/ttyUSB2"); getline(is,s) |
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| 14:53.13 | bindiff | hje841: if you really have to change terminal settings a simple way is to call out to stty |
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| 15:01.03 | hje841 | bindiff, thanks. I will try it when the server gets back up again. so if you should translate an open/read/write/close sequence from C to C++ what would it be? I'm fairly new to C++, but as I know that C is a subset of C++ my makefile hasn't given my that many problems yet |
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| 15:01.35 | bindiff | hje841: if you know c just use c |
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| 15:03.02 | bindiff | hje841: if you have to use c++ get some read about c++ io streams |
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| 15:03.15 | hje841 | bindiff, got it |
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| 15:04.10 | vbajpai | which package do I need for modprobe? it tells me command not found |
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| 15:04.49 | wols | !wheezy pool 1 |
| 15:04.49 | dpkg | ! shirish=2013-05-15 LtL=2013-05-21 rizlah=2013-01-02 bolt=2013-04-01 TCW=2013-02-17 bab1len=2013-05-04 cousin_luigi=2013-01-14 tremon=2013-01-26 je11y=2013-05-07 comps=2013-02-20 m1|=2013-06-13 chealer=2012-12-20 jordanm=2013-08-21 peterrooney=2013-02-08 Arrowmaster=2012-12-12 s1monr7n=2013-03-23 themi11=2013-03-15 abrotman=2013-06-01 |
| 15:05.07 | wols | vbajpai: are you root? only then it's in path |
| 15:05.08 | simonsimcity | Is it possible to have two users for SSH whereby both users have to use a different interface to connect to the server? |
| 15:05.26 | vbajpai | wols: got it, thanks |
| 15:05.50 | wols | simonsimcity: you can run 2 ssh servers on different interfaces. but why? |
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| 15:06.32 | simonsimcity | wols: The one interface is publicly available and the other one just behind a VPN connection. |
| 15:06.59 | simonsimcity | I have some users pushing data to GIT repositories, those should have access on the public interface. |
| 15:07.05 | nmschulte | I'm having a problem with my Debian Sid installation. My laptop has an Intel GM965 (i915 kernel driver) VGA controller; sometimes after booting I am left with a backlit, blank, black screen; I can still shell into the box, but any local console is unusable as I have no video output. |
| 15:07.26 | simonsimcity | And I have administrator-accounts that should just have access when their connection is tunneled using VPN. |
| 15:08.32 | wols | nmschulte: check your Xorg.0.log |
| 15:08.40 | nmschulte | wols: I am not using Xorg. |
| 15:08.56 | wols | !nofb |
| 15:08.56 | dpkg | To disable framebuffer use at Debian installation time, supply the "fb=false" (d-i) or "video=vga16:off" (kernel) boot options. http://wiki.debian.org/GrubTransition (search linux16) |
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| 15:09.13 | wols | nmschulte: you need to disable framebuffer |
| 15:09.39 | nmschulte | wols: That would exlplain the intermittency?> |
| 15:09.57 | nmschulte | Not questioning, just clarifying. |
| 15:09.57 | bluenemo | i have a redmine installation that loads forever in firefox (also after rm -rf ~/.mozilla) and loads just normal in chromium. what reason could that have? |
| 15:10.02 | wols | you mean that it boots ok and then stops when some init script runs? yes |
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| 15:10.15 | wols | bluenemo: funky JS? |
| 15:10.53 | nmschulte | wols: I mean that sometimes I am presented with a console, as like currently. And sometimes I just get the black screen as described. |
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| 15:11.15 | bluenemo | wols, ? |
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| 15:13.10 | nmschulte | bluenemo: a problem with redmine; an incompatibility with the assumptions they make in their JS (JavaScript) and your version of Firefox. |
| 15:13.24 | gusteru | Your apache server has no PgSQL support built-in. |
| 15:13.29 | nmschulte | Try Firefox in incognito mode, with all browser extensions disabled. |
| 15:13.40 | bluenemo | ok |
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| 15:14.09 | gusteru | what need to do ? |
| 15:14.09 | gusteru | Your apache server has no PgSQL support built-in. |
| 15:14.31 | wols | bluenemo: something in the redmin javascript that firefox doesn't like. I often have this cause I block a lot of stuff: ads, cookies, etc. various funky websites don't like that |
| 15:15.23 | bluenemo | ok just cleared firefox (tried rm -rf .mozilla before), thats not it :/ |
| 15:15.23 | nmschulte | wols: I'll give this a shot and see how it goes. |
| 15:16.40 | wols | gusteru: is this for auth or for php? |
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| 15:19.37 | gusteru | wols for php |
| 15:19.52 | wols | gusteru: apt-cache search php |grep sql |
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| 15:20.12 | wols | and you will find something for postgres. after that, you might have to restart apache2 |
| 15:20.22 | shomon | ok I now have xfce which is nice >( |
| 15:20.32 | wols | php5-pgsql it is |
| 15:20.42 | shomon | but as you can see from my vulcan smiley.. I have no idea how to get a keyboard switcher going |
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| 15:20.53 | shomon | I'm in barcelona, where both catalan and spanish are spoken.. and english |
| 15:21.08 | shomon | so I need at least those three.. maybe vulcan too |
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| 15:21.53 | gusteru | wols I made that order, as apache2 restart now? |
| 15:22.14 | petan | does anyone of you experience weird "stuck" on sid when you are updating network configuration? like every network-related command stuck your session, can't be even killed with -9 as root |
| 15:22.41 | petan | only solution is to reboot kernel, I would report it as a bug, but I don't even know which package is causing it |
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| 15:23.04 | wols | gusteru: if it still gives you the "no postgresql" error, sure |
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| 15:23.49 | shomon | I have this plugin installed: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-xkb-plugin - but locate says it's not.. and I'm taking ages finding out where it's installed |
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| 15:24.15 | Towzzer | maybe locate hasn't updated the database |
| 15:24.19 | Towzzer | that only occurs daily by default |
| 15:24.28 | Towzzer | try find / -name 'X' |
| 15:24.32 | shomon | yeah I did an updatedb too... but no joy.. |
| 15:24.33 | shomon | thanks |
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| 15:25.09 | wols | shomon: why would you install a ubuntu package in debian? |
| 15:25.35 | shomon | it was already there.. I guess it came with xcfe |
| 15:25.55 | shomon | but really I just want to be able to switch keyboards without having to edit config files each time |
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| 15:26.06 | shomon | ie via some button in an applet somewhere |
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| 15:26.39 | gusteru | wols I made that order, as apache2 restart now? |
| 15:26.49 | nmschulte | wols: I set the option i915.modeset=0 and things appear better, though I have a standard mode console now. |
| 15:27.07 | wildc4rd | Afternoon all, interesting event... my install of debian has stopped saying 'no installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources', its the standard netinst from their site placed on a usb stick with unetbootin aimed at an aspire netbook. Any thoughts? |
| 15:27.23 | petan | is there a way to find out why I can't kill a proccess? |
| 15:27.42 | shomon | did you try killing it -9 as root petan ? |
| 15:28.00 | nmschulte | wildc4rd: you need to make sure that that netinst image is for the port (architecture) of your aspire |
| 15:28.01 | shomon | by the way "petan" means "they crash" in local slang |
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| 15:28.17 | petan | shomon of course I did |
| 15:28.22 | gusteru | how can I restart apache2 ? |
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| 15:28.40 | sephii | gusteru: service apache2 restart, or apache2ctl restart |
| 15:28.48 | wildc4rd | nmschulte, standard i386 |
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| 15:30.36 | gusteru | sephii |
| 15:30.46 | gusteru | Your apache server has PHP 5.3.3-7+squeeze14 |
| 15:30.46 | gusteru | Lots of changes in 4.2 oblige us to update a lot of things. |
| 15:30.46 | gusteru | Fortunately, you can solve this problem by activating a now by default desactivated feature |
| 15:30.46 | gusteru | Go edit your php.ini file and find the line defining register_globals, set its value |
| 15:30.46 | gusteru | to On and then restart your apache (/usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl restart) |
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| 15:31.10 | gusteru | sephii where is php.ini ? |
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| 15:31.43 | babilen | gusteru: Where are those instructions from? |
| 15:32.04 | gusteru | I try to enter on my webpage from my server |
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| 15:33.36 | gusteru | babilen ? |
| 15:34.03 | sephii | gusteru: /etc/php5 then in the cgi, cli or the apache2 subdir, depending on how you're using php |
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| 15:35.08 | babilen | gusteru: Who gave you the instructions you pasted in here? Where are they from? Why do you have Apache installed in /usr/local/apache/ ? |
| 15:37.54 | gusteru | sephii thank you |
| 15:38.01 | gusteru | thank you too babilen |
| 15:38.03 | gusteru | I resolved |
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| 15:39.04 | babilen | gusteru: Why do you have Apache installed in /usr/local ? |
| 15:39.35 | gusteru | babilen but is not in usr/local |
| 15:39.47 | wildc4rd | nmschulte, confirmed, I have the correct version. |
| 15:40.40 | nmschulte | wildc4rd: you have an active Internet connection? |
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| 15:42.15 | babilen | gusteru: What you pasted in here says so: "to On and then restart your apache (/usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl restart)" -- where did you find these instructions? |
| 15:43.23 | wildc4rd | nmschulte, yes, it seems to download all the packages as required, its on the same network as this PC |
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| 15:43.36 | gusteru | in my webpage |
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| 15:46.26 | babilen | gusteru: You wrote that yourself? But its okay, if you are happy now we don't have to continue this :) |
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| 15:48.59 | _martin | where is the config file which sets for the ssh login for example export LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 ? |
| 15:49.13 | _martin | or that the command ls always executes it with ls -lah |
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| 15:50.13 | _martin | thx ksk |
| 15:51.18 | TheGrey | o/ my rednotebook diary is old..it is v 1.0. why can't I get an updated version like 1.4? I'm running debian stable |
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| 15:52.50 | babilen | dpkg: tell TheGrey -about ssb |
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| 15:53.47 | babilen | TheGrey: That should be fairly straightforward for rednotebook and gets the you 1.4.0-1 which is in wheezy/sid - An alternative would be to upgrade to wheezy right now (that is before its release, which is expected in, say, 2-5 months) |
| 15:53.57 | nmschulte | wols: by adding the i915 driver module to initramfs, things appear to be working now with KMS and i915... |
| 15:54.15 | nmschulte | !wheezy pool 1 |
| 15:54.16 | dpkg | ! shirish=2013-05-15 LtL=2013-05-21 rizlah=2013-01-02 bolt=2013-04-01 TCW=2013-02-17 bab1len=2013-05-04 cousin_luigi=2013-01-14 tremon=2013-01-26 je11y=2013-05-07 comps=2013-02-20 m1|=2013-06-13 chealer=2012-12-20 jordanm=2013-08-21 peterrooney=2013-02-08 Arrowmaster=2012-12-12 s1monr7n=2013-03-23 themi11=2013-03-15 abrotman=2013-06-01 |
| 15:54.18 | shomon | how do you change your keyboard layout? |
| 15:54.24 | wols | nmschulte: nice that you solved your problems on your own. we like that :) |
| 15:54.43 | nmschulte | of course. I wish I knew why this worked, but I don't... |
| 15:54.46 | shomon | with xfce and debian? |
| 15:54.52 | TheGrey | :babilen whats the ssb? |
| 15:54.58 | nmschulte | it doesn't seem like anyone does really. |
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| 15:55.40 | babilen | TheGrey: You received a private message from our bot (dpkg) which explains how to create a "simple sid backport" (hence ssb) -- See "/msg dpkg backports" and "/msg dpkg ssb" for details |
| 15:55.43 | nmschulte | ArchWiki suggests trying supplying the option SVIDEO-1:0 or similar... |
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| 15:56.04 | babilen | nmschulte: Just "/msg dpkg wheezy pool 1" -- No need to do this in public |
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| 15:56.47 | nmschulte | babilen: I was using it to show him the pool, not myself. Oh well. |
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| 15:56.57 | nmschulte | I suppose it does hilite a lot of folks though. |
| 15:57.38 | babilen | nmschulte: It does -- (not me as I've used bab1len not babilen, but still) |
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| 15:58.23 | TheGrey | :babilen thats pretty cool |
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| 15:58.40 | wols | since when does irssi hilight people when mentioned inside some text? it only does when it's in front :) |
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| 16:01.12 | jelly | so this won't highlight wols, will it? |
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| 16:01.20 | mambaw | I'm a longtime FreeBSD user and used to receiving a set of reports entitled "Daily Run" and a "Security Run", which are emailed to the system administrator on a daily basis. |
| 16:01.39 | TheGrey | is dpkg really a bot? |
| 16:01.42 | mambaw | My understanding is that this functionality is most easily accomplished on Debian with a specific package. Is that correct? |
| 16:01.45 | mambaw | And, any suggestions? |
| 16:01.46 | jelly | dpkg: what are you |
| 16:01.46 | dpkg | I am an infobot. For more information, ask me about <infobot>. |
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| 16:02.35 | wols | mambaw: do you mean cron? |
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| 16:02.49 | wols | jelly: and no it didn't :P |
| 16:02.55 | wols | but I did! |
| 16:02.59 | mambaw | wols: Well, I'm sure I could put something in cron to do that |
| 16:03.28 | mambaw | but it seems like that'd be reinventing the wheel. I'm certain, I'm not the only one interested in this functionality. |
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| 16:03.47 | mambaw | there must be some canned package that does this. No? |
| 16:03.59 | wols | no. what kind of reports would that be? |
| 16:04.10 | wols | ie what creates the data for the report? |
| 16:04.29 | Brigo | mambaw: are you talking about monitoring system? |
| 16:04.50 | mambaw | yes, I want to receive a daily email that monitors the system |
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| 16:05.10 | babilen | mambaw: What should be the content of those reports? |
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| 16:05.15 | shomon | in old ubuntus I used to get mails to the root user with various error messages and things... |
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| 16:05.36 | TheGrey | right...rednotebook has no backports in synpatic.. what commands should I perform to get new rednotebook....the only reason why I'm doing this is because I cannot save my logs |
| 16:05.51 | shomon | oh and those naughty/nice reports about people not in sudoers... |
| 16:05.54 | mambaw | Hang on..I'll see if I can link to a sample |
| 16:05.56 | babilen | mambaw: Are you looking for something like output from an intrusion detection system? (e.g. snort) Or a monitoring system such as Icinga? Or reports about packages that can be upgraded? Or … |
| 16:06.19 | TheGrey | because I get [Errno 13] Permission denied when I try to save |
| 16:06.49 | wols | TheGrey: unlikely a new version will fix this error |
| 16:06.55 | wols | ,info rednotebook |
| 16:06.57 | judd | Package rednotebook (text, optional) in squeeze/i386: daily journal with calendar, templates and keyword searching. Version: 1.0.0-2; Size: 406.9k; Installed: 2232k; Homepage: http://rednotebook.sourceforge.net/; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/rednotebook |
| 16:07.09 | TheGrey | right, what can I do? |
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| 16:07.24 | wols | where does it want to save its log to? what directory? |
| 16:07.34 | mambaw | Basically looking for uptime, disk status, network interface status, mail queue status, pretty general |
| 16:07.35 | TheGrey | /home/laddu/documents/Diary/Logs/2013-01.txt |
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| 16:07.47 | babilen | mambaw: You might also be looking for logwatch or something completely different ... |
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| 16:07.55 | tharkun | munin? |
| 16:08.00 | Patteh | just done a fresh install of debian on a slightly older PC and it looks like i have a gfx driver issue (i only get a blinking cursor on a black screen) |
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| 16:08.13 | Patteh | ctrl alt f1 doesnt get me to terminal either |
| 16:08.15 | babilen | tharkun: icinga, munin, nagios, ... all come to mind, yeah |
| 16:08.22 | Patteh | can i get into grub menu during boot? |
| 16:08.27 | Zerobeholder | Th0rsten: You still around and still having problems? |
| 16:08.29 | Zerobeholder | I use virtual box a lot. |
| 16:08.31 | Zerobeholder | About to fire up a dev VM right now. |
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| 16:08.53 | Th0rsten | Zerobeholder, thanks for the offer, but my problem is solved now :) |
| 16:09.02 | TheGrey | It seems that I cannot even create a folder, using rednotes GUI; permission denied....do I need to be root to do this? |
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| 16:09.34 | babilen | mambaw: http://docs.icinga.org/latest/en/notifications2.html for icinga notifications for example |
| 16:09.36 | wols | TheGrey: ls -l /home/laddu/documents/Diary/Logs/ |
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| 16:09.57 | TheGrey | -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 147915 Nov 20 23:32 2012-10.txt |
| 16:09.57 | TheGrey | -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 78343 Dec 1 00:11 2012-11.txt |
| 16:09.57 | TheGrey | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 58668 Jan 1 01:02 2012-12.txt |
| 16:09.57 | TheGrey | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32307 Jan 7 19:44 2013-01.txt |
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| 16:10.20 | TheGrey | o/ I'm back ! |
| 16:10.26 | wols | TheGrey: very very funky permissions. and you are already root |
| 16:10.46 | mambaw | babilen: thanks. |
| 16:10.50 | wols | something is not right the way you run this program. not right at all |
| 16:11.00 | TheGrey | right so what should i do? |
| 16:11.03 | mambaw | that looks pretty good. Probably WAAY overkill for what I need, but I can probably make it work the way I want. |
| 16:11.12 | wols | TheGrey: as root: chown all files to your normal user and set perms to 0644 for example |
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| 16:11.43 | TheGrey | right, I have no idea what that means. Should i just uninstall rednotebook and then reinstall it? |
| 16:11.50 | wols | no |
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| 16:11.55 | babilen | mambaw: It is the most comprehensive and best monitoring system I could think of :) |
| 16:11.59 | wols | !tell TheGrey about permissions |
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| 16:12.11 | Zerobeholder | TheGrey: It looks like two specific patterns. I had something similar with my log rotator script and the program writing the logs... |
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| 16:12.45 | mambaw | babilen: reading about it now - is it mostly for one system, or receiving reports from like a whole network of servers? |
| 16:13.00 | TheGrey | : wols: rigght if it helps I first tried saving rednotebook in normal user and then I typed sudo rednotebook and it the terminal it started to create the folders |
| 16:13.06 | nmschulte | When making a new initramfs via '# update-initramfs -c' for a kernel version that already has one, do I get to choose the name of the initramfs? How can I make them side-by-side? |
| 16:13.08 | babilen | mambaw: Both really |
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| 16:13.29 | TheGrey | :wols: also even if I uninstall rednotebook will it have any different to my situatiion? |
| 16:13.40 | rue_ | whats the program I can use instead of cat to copy a file |
| 16:13.49 | nmschulte | rue_: cp? |
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| 16:13.49 | rue_ | I need to use it to copy a file less 1 byte |
| 16:13.53 | wols | TheGrey: chown -R laddu.laddu /home/laddu/docuents/Diary |
| 16:13.55 | nmschulte | rue_: dd? |
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| 16:14.00 | rue_ | dd! |
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| 16:14.14 | wols | TheGrey: and chmod 0644 /home/laddu/documents/Diary/Logs/20* |
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| 16:14.23 | wols | rue_: cp |
| 16:14.30 | Zerobeholder | TheGrey: chown -R TheGrey:TheGrey /home/laddu/documents/Diary/Logs/* |
| 16:14.39 | rue_ | no I need to copy a file less the last byte |
| 16:14.46 | babilen | mambaw: There are others though -- An "apt-cache search monitorin" comes up with many, mon for example looks interesting but I know nothing about it. |
| 16:14.47 | rue_ | I think dd can do it |
| 16:14.59 | Zerobeholder | Scrolling was wonky, my bad |
| 16:15.04 | jackbrown | How can I became member of the fuse group? Fuse is already installed thanks for helping |
| 16:15.09 | mambaw | Yeah, I was hoping for something really small and simple. |
| 16:15.20 | Zerobeholder | And laddu was in the home directory, good catch wols... |
| 16:15.26 | babilen | mambaw: do you know the name of the corresponding tool on *BSD? |
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| 16:16.34 | mambaw | babilen: it's built into the system |
| 16:16.48 | babilen | mambaw: I mean there are also snort, sagan, samhuin, ... there are /so many/ tools that I simply don't know what to recommend. I have happily used Icinga in the past which is why I recommend it, but it might really be overkill |
| 16:17.03 | TheGrey | :wols: you saved me! My hero! thank you so much! |
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| 16:17.15 | babilen | mambaw: Hmm, right. Any links to documentation? |
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| 16:17.46 | TheGrey | :wols: but what exactly did I do wrong? I know now I need to learn from this lesson.... |
| 16:18.00 | TheGrey | will all my answers be answered from dpkg? |
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| 16:18.29 | rue_ | anyone know if I can sue dd to copy a file less 1 byte? I cant see how to do it |
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| 16:19.13 | babilen | TheGrey: It looks as if you started/ran rednotebook as root rather than your normal user. |
| 16:20.15 | mambaw | babilen: here is someone looking for the same thing: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-security/2004-07/msg00175.html |
| 16:20.19 | TheGrey | babilen: right..so never type sudo "program name" unless you have to! |
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| 16:20.49 | mambaw | babilen: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=periodic&sektion=8 |
| 16:20.56 | babilen | TheGrey: Absolutely! You should /only/ use that functionality if you /really/ have to. |
| 16:21.08 | babilen | mambaw: Thanks -- Lets see if we can find something like that :) |
| 16:21.13 | rue_ | ok, I have to code my own in C then |
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| 16:22.48 | babilen | mambaw: Well, "periodic" simply corresponds to the "cron" -- They are both schedulers that run cron-jobs (periodic-jobs?). The question is: Which program is actually used to create those reports? Would it help if we clarify that question in, say, #freebsd before continuing to search for an equivalent program on Debian |
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| 16:23.23 | TheGrey | :babilen: I really need to read up on linux commands...do you have a recommended list of ebooks? |
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| 16:23.38 | babilen | dpkg: tell TheGrey -about general cli tutorial |
| 16:23.44 | mambaw | babilen: right, the configurion is done /etc/periodic/daily |
| 16:23.48 | babilen | dpkg: tell TheGrey about handbook |
| 16:23.52 | mambaw | which controls what things it does |
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| 16:24.10 | babilen | mambaw: Ok, can you paste whatever is called from /etc/periodic/daily? |
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| 16:24.48 | babilen | mambaw: Is it bsdstats? |
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| 16:26.07 | zykotick9 | TheGrey: you might want to see the <grounding> factoid as well |
| 16:26.17 | mambaw | no it's a specific binary called periodic. |
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| 16:26.56 | babilen | mambaw: I am saying that periodic (that is the scheduler) calls http://www.bsdstats.org/ to generate the reports. |
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| 16:27.11 | mambaw | Oh, that could be I don't know. |
| 16:27.14 | babilen | s/saying that/asking if/ really |
| 16:27.30 | mambaw | I'm sure it probably calls other binaries to do various things. |
| 16:27.37 | babilen | mambaw: And that is not the correct webpage :) |
| 16:27.50 | mambaw | So, it wouldn't be surprising. |
| 16:27.57 | babilen | and no, that is also not it |
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| 16:28.18 | windowsrefund | hello |
| 16:28.51 | _martin | I got a problem here, i want to install apt-get install libboost-dev but this will also install cpp-2.95 and g++2.95, but i got already gcc4.6.0 |
| 16:28.51 | mambaw | On the Mac, periodic utility is called by launchd(8) to execute shell scripts. |
| 16:29.02 | _martin | how can i keep this packages back and install only apt-get install libboost-dev |
| 16:29.02 | _martin | ? |
| 16:29.03 | windowsrefund | anyone here good with apt-cacher-ng? I'm having problems adding a repo to a upstream caching server |
| 16:29.08 | mambaw | right now I can't get to my FreeBSD system, but it's pretty similar |
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| 16:35.08 | Guest4260 | hi |
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| 16:36.13 | babilen | mambaw: I figured it out -- The functionality is implemented in status_* scripts in /etc/periodic/daily/ (cf. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/etc/periodic/daily/) and these scripts are not general purpose enough to be ported to Linux |
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| 16:38.21 | shomon | how do I mount a windows share on my pooter? |
| 16:38.39 | shomon | is it something to do with nfsmount or smbmount? |
| 16:39.21 | dcherniv | shomon, mount -t cifs smb://computer/share /mnt for example |
| 16:39.30 | shomon | thanks very much! |
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| 16:39.43 | dcherniv | shomon, you do need smbmount package |
| 16:39.59 | shomon | okay, apt-cache searching it |
| 16:40.46 | dcherniv | shomon, or cifs-utils or smbfs... one of those |
| 16:40.54 | shomon | thanks dcherniv |
| 16:40.57 | zykotick9 | dcherniv: do you mean smbclient perhaps? |
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| 16:41.38 | shomon | I guess this computer will always or 90% of the time be connected to the windoze machine, so I want it just as a regular drive mostly |
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| 16:42.01 | dcherniv | zykotick9, no, smbclient is for browsing, u need cifs fuse library to mount the filesystem |
| 16:42.24 | zykotick9 | dcherniv: i went looking for smbmount, and that was the best i could come up with ;) |
| 16:42.49 | shomon | I went and installed all of samba4 and it's multitudinal dependencies |
| 16:42.55 | shomon | before I read that... |
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| 16:43.26 | dcherniv | zykotick9, i guess it got renamed or something smbfs is not here on my system |
| 16:43.32 | dcherniv | zykotick9, but there's cifs-utils now |
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| 16:43.58 | zykotick9 | dcherniv: fusesmb then? it doesn't matter (to me), i was actually seeing if i had SMB support installed as a dependency. but shomon might ;) |
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| 16:44.41 | dcherniv | zykotick9, ah yes this sounds right |
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| 16:48.55 | shomon | Mounting cifs URL not implemented yet. Attempt to mount smb://apples/oranges |
| 16:48.58 | shomon | :S |
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| 16:50.09 | nkuttler | shomon: not implemented where? |
| 16:50.14 | nkuttler | shomon: works for me |
| 16:50.22 | shomon | I didn't have fusesmb installed.. INstalling now... |
| 16:50.25 | tharkun | Iḿ running with kvm a host and some guests on a system but for production use I am not confortable running them as root. How can make /dev/mapper/guest0 belong to the kvm group and not to root? The system is running with lvm. |
| 16:51.03 | shomon | nkuttler: what do you do to mount it? |
| 16:51.42 | nkuttler | shomon: //host/media /mnt/media cifs rw,guest,noauto,user 0 0 in fstab |
| 16:52.03 | shomon | thanks! |
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| 16:56.08 | marvinstuart | Finally got my pi running http://www.flickr.com/photos/marvinstuart/8360988259/ |
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| 16:56.36 | frostschutz | tharkun: maybe with some udev rules? |
| 16:57.52 | babilen | mambaw: Take a look at checksecurity and tiger too |
| 16:58.26 | mercutio22 | no input device is listed on gnome. What could I do? |
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| 16:58.52 | mercutio22 | weird, I can adjust the mic volume in alsamixer |
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| 16:59.05 | mercutio22 | its working, but no app can use it |
| 17:00.20 | shomon | nkuttler: how do I test that fstab line with a mount command? |
| 17:00.57 | jelly | shomon: "mount /mnt/media" |
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| 17:01.14 | shomon | it's an smb share |
| 17:01.57 | EmleyMoor | shomon: That fstab line says so... have you put it in? If so, jelly's command is fine for testing |
| 17:02.30 | shomon | yeah I went in and checked out the directory but nothing is there... |
| 17:02.40 | EmleyMoor | shomon: Have you done the mount? |
| 17:02.40 | shomon | maybe there's an error log of it somewhere... |
| 17:03.21 | shomon | aaah no, I hadn't thanks.. it says could not resolve address |
| 17:03.30 | EmleyMoor | Ah... |
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| 17:03.59 | EmleyMoor | Then, what you put as host, it can't work out what it means... |
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| 17:05.06 | shomon | hmm, thanks I'll ask the heroic sysadmin |
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| 17:05.20 | jelly | two more things: the mountpoint has to exist in advance. Also, if you do it as a normal user, the mountpoint should be owned by said user |
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| 17:06.20 | shomon | jelly: in advance of putting that line into fstab, or of mounting it? |
| 17:06.40 | EmleyMoor | shomon: In advance of mounting it |
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| 17:07.04 | shomon | then yes,it was there.. but as root.. I'll do it again as me |
| 17:07.05 | BadCodSmell | When installing debian can't find the installation media |
| 17:07.36 | BadCodSmell | when I drop to a shell and try to mount with mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /cdrom I get no such device |
| 17:07.50 | BadCodSmell | when I try mount /dev/sda2 /cdrom I get invalid argument |
| 17:07.52 | EmleyMoor | BadCodSmell: What kind of installation media? |
| 17:08.13 | BadCodSmell | usb -> msdos partition -> ext |
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| 17:08.40 | EmleyMoor | BadCodSmell: Why did you create it that way? |
| 17:08.50 | BadCodSmell | It's absolutely 100% necessary |
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| 17:09.03 | BadCodSmell | What I want to know is why it can't mount it |
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| 17:09.06 | EmleyMoor | BadCodSmell: It's not the normal way to do it |
| 17:09.16 | BadCodSmell | My requirements aren't normal |
| 17:09.25 | EmleyMoor | Well, explain them... |
| 17:09.31 | BadCodSmell | I have explained |
| 17:09.42 | BadCodSmell | mount doesn't appear to work, it gives the above error messages |
| 17:09.58 | BadCodSmell | the type of partition is msdos, the filesystem is ext |
| 17:10.07 | EmleyMoor | You have *not* explained what's not normal about your requirements |
| 17:10.14 | BadCodSmell | It's not relevant |
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| 17:10.26 | BadCodSmell | My question isn't, how can I do this a different way, it's why doesn't this work |
| 17:10.26 | zykotick9 | tharkun: sidenote - if you are using bridged networking with your host/kvm guests, that can also be a permission situation requiring root... by default anyways - i haven't "really" looked for a fix, but all my kvm vms require being started as root :| |
| 17:10.27 | EmleyMoor | Maybe if we knew, we'd understand your problem better |
| 17:10.59 | BadCodSmell | I want to mount an ext partition from the emergency shell during installation |
| 17:11.11 | EmleyMoor | The answer may be "It's not supposed to work that way" |
| 17:11.12 | LZ2ILR | hello debian forum, please tell me an answer. i have just added firmware for wifi card manually to a basic system to get net running, wconfig is setup so is ip link, ap is associated.. the system has not got dhcpcd installed so i cant get an ip lease from my router. how do i install this tool? |
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| 17:11.45 | EmleyMoor | BadCodSmell: But what is so special about your requirement that you consider this necessary? |
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| 17:12.05 | BadCodSmell | I really do not want to explain an entire project to you |
| 17:12.14 | BadCodSmell | I just want to know why a simple mount doesn't work |
| 17:12.16 | frostschutz | BadCodSmell: cat /proc/filesystems, ext won't be in there probably, that's the problem I had when trying to boot the install cd iso from usb |
| 17:12.22 | babilen | LZ2ILR: "dhclient wlan0" should be what you are looking for |
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| 17:12.49 | BadCodSmell | Thank's frostschutz :), someone who has a clue! |
| 17:13.32 | BadCodSmell | That does indeed appear to be the issue, awesome. |
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| 17:14.56 | LZ2ILR | babilen: thanks, i just tried that. dont seem to have got an ip, cant ping google |
| 17:15.27 | Arrowmaster | BadCodSmell: so you are trying to do this before loading the rest of the installer from the CD image? |
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| 17:17.59 | babilen | LZ2ILR: What kind of wireless network are you connecting to? Do you receive a DHCPOFFER (e.g. run "dhclient -v wlan0") ? Can you ping your gateway? What about 8.8.8.8 ? |
| 17:18.28 | babilen | LZ2ILR: Also, did you reload the module for your wifi card? (or rebooted since adding the firmware) |
| 17:20.04 | tharkun | zykotick9: I'll write down that and I'll try to find a workaround. |
| 17:20.05 | LZ2ILR | babilen: im using zd1201 |
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| 17:21.10 | babilen | LZ2ILR: Ok, is the network you are connecting to open or encrypted? Did you reload the module after installing the firmware or did you reboot? Do you receive a DHCPOFFER (e.g. run "dhclient -v wlan0") ? Can you ping your gateway? What about 8.8.8.8 ? |
| 17:21.25 | LZ2ILR | just a second |
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| 17:22.09 | LZ2ILR | cant ping router |
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| 17:22.39 | LZ2ILR | wifi card is up, lights are on, etc |
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| 17:22.57 | LZ2ILR | 8,8,8,8 network unreachable |
| 17:23.24 | tharkun | editing sudoers file is not recomended, what was the command to edit it? |
| 17:23.30 | sney | visudo |
| 17:23.40 | sney | but it does just open it in a text editor. |
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| 17:23.51 | tharkun | thanks :) this German guy is driving me crazy :) |
| 17:24.19 | EmleyMoor | LZ2ILR: Those were dots, not commas - did you get that right? |
| 17:24.51 | sney | commas would give you uknown host, not network unreachable |
| 17:25.14 | EmleyMoor | Ah, good point |
| 17:25.42 | LZ2ILR | yep, i was sloppy typing to irc but not on the unit in question |
| 17:25.51 | babilen | LZ2ILR: Ok, answer the rest of the questions now please. It is fairly obvious that you do not have a working network connection |
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| 17:26.02 | LZ2ILR | i just unloaded mod and replugged wifi card |
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| 17:26.28 | babilen | LZ2ILR: so you did /not/ reload the module before or rebooted? is the network you are connecting to open or encrypted? |
| 17:26.44 | babilen | will just repeat questions until they all have been answered |
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| 17:28.08 | LZ2ILR | just got reloaded after reboot, network open, this wifi i am talking on. appreciate the help. i am going to try iwconfig again now its up |
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| 17:29.19 | LZ2ILR | ok iwconfig has my essid |
| 17:29.44 | babilen | Ok, please run "dhclient -v wlan0" and tell me if you receive a DHCPOFFER |
| 17:29.55 | LZ2ILR | ip link set wlan2 up |
| 17:30.15 | babilen | LZ2ILR: You might also want to read http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line if you plan to connect to your network in the future too |
| 17:30.23 | babilen | wlan2 ? |
| 17:30.40 | babilen | (please adjust interfaces accordingly -- how come you have three wireless interfaces?) |
| 17:30.41 | LZ2ILR | yes not sure why wlan2 |
| 17:30.54 | babilen | dpkg: tell LZ2ILR -about 70 |
| 17:30.59 | babilen | LZ2ILR: Might be ^^^ |
| 17:31.02 | LZ2ILR | may be other ex drivers lurking |
| 17:31.05 | tharkun | wonders who is responsable for changing the default editor from vi to nano on debian. While collecting green timber to *fix* that choice. |
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| 17:31.42 | LZ2ILR | yes! now i have ip address qudos to you thank you very much my friend |
| 17:32.18 | babilen | LZ2ILR: You are welcome -- Are you planning to connect to this wireless network more often? Do you have to connect to other networks too or only to this one? |
| 17:32.45 | babilen | LZ2ILR: Also check your /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules to figure out why it is wlan2 |
| 17:33.03 | dcherniv | tharkun, nothing wrong with nano |
| 17:33.12 | LZ2ILR | just this at the moment while i learn more. its a arm allwinner 13 dev board |
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| 17:33.32 | tharkun | dcherniv: It loops itself if you are not familiar with how it works. |
| 17:34.31 | LZ2ILR | i would like to make this persistant but i will learn how in due course. its good for me to have to set up manually each boot so its second nature |
| 17:34.34 | babilen | LZ2ILR: Ok, I would recommend to configure it in /etc/network/interfaces (as discussed on http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/README.Debian and "man interfaces" -- That way you don't have to configure it manually every time |
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| 17:35.25 | LZ2ILR | my next step is try and install xserver and xfce |
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| 17:35.42 | babilen | LZ2ILR: You want "wireless-mode Managed" there btw |
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| 17:35.54 | LZ2ILR | ok |
| 17:36.32 | babilen | LZ2ILR: You can install Xorg and XFCE easily with "apt-get install xorg xfce4 xfce4-goodies" -- What kind of graphic card to you have? |
| 17:36.38 | babilen | (lspci -nn|grep -i vga) |
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| 17:38.18 | roaet | howdy. Is it possible to reload the locale settings without logging out? |
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| 17:38.40 | roaet | More so, how do I set the locale settings in the preseed environment? |
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| 17:41.28 | zykotick9 | tharkun: "update-alternatives --config editor" default editor changed system wide ;) |
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| 17:42.15 | ollie314 | hi |
| 17:42.35 | ollie314 | can anyone help me about a problem concerning xorg configuration |
| 17:42.38 | ollie314 | ? |
| 17:42.43 | LZ2ILR | babilen: not sure about graphics card, its all on chip |
| 17:42.50 | sney | ollie314, ask your question |
| 17:43.15 | ollie314 | ok, my problem is my server swap x and y |
| 17:43.17 | sney | LZ2ILR, see babilen's next line for how to find out |
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| 17:43.32 | zykotick9 | babilen: when asking for a graphics card, i think feeding lspci the -v switch is a good idea (to show if the user has hybrid graphics) |
| 17:43.32 | ollie314 | I'm using a touchscreen and penmount |
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| 17:44.17 | ollie314 | I'm wasting a couple of time unsuccefully and I've no idea about which operation I have to do |
| 17:44.17 | LZ2ILR | i read that, and know it from the wiki i followed on another machine, however on arm based board the is no pci bus |
| 17:44.58 | LZ2ILR | therefore lspci does not exist |
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| 17:46.24 | sney | LZ2ILR, well, in that case it's just a question of looking it up. are you using a raspberry pi or something? |
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| 17:46.42 | ollie314 | is anyone knows how to switch x and y using xorg.conf (or anything else) ? |
| 17:47.42 | sney | what do you mean |
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| 17:49.02 | ollie314 | I just want to swap x and y on the screen |
| 17:49.22 | sney | are you talking axes? like screen rotation? |
| 17:49.23 | ollie314 | and I have no idea how to do that . |
| 17:49.44 | ollie314 | yes sorry, I talking about x and y axes |
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| 17:51.31 | sney | ok, you need to use the RandRRotation and Rotate options in an xorg.conf file |
| 17:52.30 | sney | RandRRotation is just on or off, and Rotate is CW, CCW, etc for direction. google for more info, or it may be in the xorg.conf manpage |
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| 17:54.32 | ollie314 | Ok, thanks, I'll try to do that |
| 17:55.10 | roaet | I can't seem to get the LC_ and other Locale variables set up properly in a preseed environment. I believe this is causing fatal errors with apt-get installations but I can't be sure. Does anyone have any experience with setting locales in a preseed environment? |
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| 17:58.32 | ollie314 | It seems to work but it doesn't solve my problems |
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| 17:59.16 | ollie314 | it appears that the driver consider the coords x=0,y=0 at the bottom right of the screen |
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| 17:59.37 | ollie314 | do you have any idea sney ? |
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| 18:00.17 | sney | ollie314, not without more information. |
| 18:00.29 | sney | remember that I'm not at your computer with you, and can't see your screen. |
| 18:00.43 | ollie314 | sorry |
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| 18:05.32 | NASDAQEnema | gentlemen: anyone know why aptitude and mozilla constantly crash |
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| 18:05.49 | ollie314 | using RandRRotation and Rotate options it turns effectively the screen but the driver still consider the mouse coords at the wrong position. For instance if I pass my finger from top to bottom of the screen the mouse pointer goes from bottom to top and the same issue occurd on the x axes |
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| 18:06.14 | ollie314 | I'm not sure about the consistency of my explanation. |
| 18:06.23 | ollie314 | is it helpfull ? |
| 18:06.32 | sney | that's probably something to do with the driver for your touchscreen |
| 18:06.48 | ollie314 | ok |
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| 18:06.57 | ollie314 | thanks a lot for your help |
| 18:06.58 | sney | if it's a specific kernel module, run 'modinfo' on it and see what the available options are |
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| 18:07.05 | sney | there might be an 'invert' or something |
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| 18:07.43 | ollie314 | have we any way to specify the driver to use for the pointer in the xorg.conf |
| 18:07.46 | ollie314 | ? |
| 18:08.03 | sney | yes, in the InputDevice section |
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| 18:08.22 | sney | or at least we can specify device types and protocols |
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| 18:10.23 | ollie314 | something like Option "Driver" "penmount" /<path_to_the_drvier> ? |
| 18:10.57 | ollie314 | because I'm not sure that system uses the correcct driver (I installed two drivers for now) |
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| 18:11.39 | sney | you'd have to look at the driver's documentation for that |
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| 18:12.02 | ollie314 | Ok, thanks a lot for your precious help ! |
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| 18:13.29 | ollie314 | I'll investigate in this way. I find out in the hardware documentation that the 0,0 coords is at the bottom left and this is the reason why It fails |
| 18:13.48 | ollie314 | now, I have to find the correct driver ! |
| 18:13.51 | BadCodSmell | Where can I find the build scripts and sources for the debian 7 cd installation media? |
| 18:13.56 | ollie314 | one more, thanks a lot |
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| 18:38.11 | TheGrey | o/ Why can't I delete a file on a mounted internal hard drive...I'm in root thunar...I press delete.. and I get this: http://imgur.com/3kArv |
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| 18:40.25 | valdyn | TheGrey: "No space left on device" |
| 18:41.10 | valdyn | TheGrey: youre not actually trying to delete, youre trying to move it to trash |
| 18:41.12 | TheGrey | right, but this was happedned went it was empty |
| 18:41.29 | TheGrey | Oh...so how can I permentaly wipe it off |
| 18:41.41 | valdyn | TheGrey: try holding the shift key when deleting |
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| 18:42.17 | TheGrey | and also, does the root user have a trash... I fear that that is full up, and I have no idea where it is |
| 18:42.38 | valdyn | TheGrey: the location of the trash is right there in your error message |
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| 18:43.02 | valdyn | TheGrey: the fact that youre runing nautilus is root is an entire issue in itself too |
| 18:43.14 | valdyn | TheGrey: (or thunar, whatever) |
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| 18:43.29 | TheGrey | the reason why is because I cannot even move a file in thunar without being root |
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| 18:44.08 | TheGrey | and where is "trash:" is it in home? |
| 18:44.19 | valdyn | TheGrey: read the error message |
| 18:44.50 | TheGrey | stupid me...and can I move files in thunar without being root? and why is it 'bad' to run thunar in root? |
| 18:44.51 | jelly-home | the small font, too |
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| 18:46.22 | teclo- | hi there, know a command-line ogg player for Debian "wheezy" ? |
| 18:46.27 | TheGrey | and also it seems that there's a nvidia-settings-rc log in root... I though I uninstall nvidia driver |
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| 18:49.12 | alkul | teclo-: moc or cmus. |
| 18:49.32 | teclo- | alkul: thank you |
| 18:49.46 | alkul | You're welcome. |
| 18:51.00 | jhutchins_wk | TheGrey: It's dangerous to use GUI apps as root because they can create files or change permissions of your own files so that you can't use them any more - things like the hidden files that control the settings of various apps. |
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| 18:51.46 | frostschutz | BadCodSmell: still about the boot issue? dunno about debian 7, but for debian 6 there is a hd-media folder with kernel+initramfs which supposedly loopmounts the iso. I used a different method though |
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| 18:52.46 | frostschutz | BadCodSmell: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/ may be it |
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| 18:57.12 | ksuhku | teclo-, also ogg123 from vorbis-tools |
| 18:57.25 | teclo- | alkul: weird, mocp keeps playing after I quit .. ?! |
| 18:57.26 | zykotick9 | teclo-: for a terminal music player i'd strongly recomment ncmpcpp+mpd |
| 18:57.43 | teclo- | ksuhku: ah, I was looking for ogg123... it's in vorbis-tools now ? |
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| 18:57.45 | alkul | teclo-: to quit moc, start it again, but exit with shift + q. |
| 18:57.57 | alkul | teclo-: moc uses a server/client model, it's always there. |
| 18:58.17 | teclo- | alkul: ah thank you... indeed if it's a client-server model, tit's great |
| 18:58.20 | ksuhku | like mpd |
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| 19:12.56 | teclo- | kinda "weird" ogg123 isn't in a package called ogg123 as it might have been for earlier releases of Debian, but well *shrug* no big deal heh |
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| 19:29.39 | Croupier | greetings, being new and all, i am having a little problem with the monitor resolution, skype and firewall :( |
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| 19:30.24 | jelly-home | judd: file bin/ogg123 |
| 19:30.29 | judd | Search for bin/ogg123 in squeeze/i386: vorbis-tools: usr/bin/ogg123; vorbis-tools-dbg: usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/ogg123 |
| 19:30.29 | Croupier | most importantly skype... seems to not work and always be needing libraries, or not being able to open them..is there a way anyone can point to the right direction? |
| 19:31.01 | jelly-home | teclo-: you can also ask judd in /msg judd file something |
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| 19:34.51 | gnat_x | i have an issue that i cannot get to the bottome of. essentially i'm getting php timezone corruption error, but every cause and solution i've found its turned out that its not that. here is a brief summary of what i've tried: https://paste.debian.net/222933/ |
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| 19:37.41 | dondelelcaro | gnat_x: run zdump on the zone files |
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| 19:38.37 | dondelelcaro | gnat_x: it's also possible that you've somehow gotten a non-packaged zone file in the zone database, or something else. |
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| 19:38.51 | dondelelcaro | gnat_x: you can run strace on php to see precisely what is going on there. |
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| 19:39.31 | teclo- | jelly-home: indeed, sorry, didn't know. I did aptitude search ogg123 on my machine, though |
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| 19:40.13 | jelly-home | teclo-: apt-cache search something is good in a pinch (better than a aptitude search something) |
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| 19:40.30 | Drod | hi |
| 19:40.46 | dondelelcaro | gnat_x: for example, the output of strace -ff php -r 'printf(date("r") ."\n");' would be informative. |
| 19:40.54 | louisdk | How do I extract .part files in with a Linux command? |
| 19:40.56 | teclo- | jelly-home: ah thank you |
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| 19:41.10 | jameshyde | any one used memlockd? |
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| 19:41.25 | zykotick9 | teclo-: aptitude search is uber-powerful, but might not give you the results you are looking for (without proper command). using "apt-cache search ogg123" for instance does give the proper package to install. |
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| 19:42.16 | Drod | can anyone help me .... i try to add user in my linux, but i dont get. I always return an error that the file / etc / passwd is in read-only.. apologies my english |
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| 19:43.41 | ksuhku | !br |
| 19:43.42 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 19:44.52 | dondelelcaro | Drod: you have to be root in order to add a user. |
| 19:44.59 | dondelelcaro | Drod: su to root, then run adduser |
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| 19:45.22 | Drod | yeah... im doing this with root user |
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| 19:52.35 | nilsology | hi |
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| 19:54.38 | gnat_x | dondelelcaro: its a huge strace. and > doesn't seem to be redirecting it to a file like i want. should i just copy a bit of the frame buffer? |
| 19:55.05 | dondelelcaro | gnat_x: > foofile 2>&1; or use the -o option of strace. |
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| 19:55.19 | gnat_x | dondelelcaro: ahh thanks. |
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| 19:55.39 | dondelelcaro | gnat_x: so strace -o php.strace -f php -r 'printf(date("r") ."\n");'; |
| 19:55.42 | dondelelcaro | (if it wasn't clear) |
| 19:55.48 | gnat_x | always forget about that. |
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| 19:55.59 | gnat_x | indeed it was clear. :) |
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| 19:57.19 | dondelelcaro | my guess is that you'll find some file being opened, and then it'll error out soon after... and you'll have your culprit. |
| 19:57.25 | dondelelcaro | if not, then... |
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| 20:02.18 | gnat_x | dondelelcaro: http://nat.mayfirst.org/php.strace |
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| 20:05.17 | dondelelcaro | gnat_x: mmap(NULL, 3519, PROT_READ, MAP_SHARED, 3, 0) = -1 ENODEV (No such device) <-- well, that's almost certainly the error there. |
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| 20:05.59 | dondelelcaro | gnat_x: however, I've no clue why mmap would return ENODEV there. It's certainly the case that php is doing the wrong thing, though, as it should fall back to some other method of reading the file besides a mmap |
| 20:06.05 | gnat_x | dondelelcaro: was just reading that very line. :) |
| 20:06.38 | dondelelcaro | gnat_x: is this some strange non-posix filesystem? |
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| 20:06.44 | gnat_x | dondelelcaro: hrm. let me double check that. |
| 20:07.11 | dondelelcaro | gnat_x: because America/New_York is a symlink... |
| 20:07.27 | gnat_x | hrm. interesting thought. |
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| 20:08.28 | gnat_x | dondelelcaro: it is glusterfs |
| 20:08.42 | dondelelcaro | uh... why are you using glusterfs for / ? |
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| 20:09.06 | gnat_x | dondelelcaro: not entirel |
| 20:09.14 | gnat_x | dondelelcaro: not entirely sure. wasn't my call. |
| 20:09.23 | dondelelcaro | heh; yeah, that's almost certainly the problem |
| 20:09.32 | dondelelcaro | I'm surprised that other things haven't been failing too |
| 20:09.51 | dondelelcaro | anyway, this is certainly a PHP bug, but you might be one of the few people to have found it |
| 20:10.17 | gnat_x | google would certainly lead me to think so. |
| 20:10.41 | dondelelcaro | gnat_x: that said, I think you can get glusterfs to support mmap if it's a recent enough kernel, and you've got the configuration right. |
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| 20:10.47 | gnat_x | as the list of things i had checked so far was about all i could find on the issue. |
| 20:11.22 | dondelelcaro | gnat_x: however, I've pretty much given up on glusterfs for the time being, so I can't tell you for certain without doing the research myself. |
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| 20:12.28 | gnat_x | dondelelcaro: thanks for all the help! i hadn't even thought that it got to the fs level yet, but here we are. |
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| 20:12.52 | gnat_x | takes a break before plunging down this rabbit hole |
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| 20:13.30 | ciscon_ | anybody know if a there is something like debootstrap/multistrap to create a chroot with literally just packages i tell it to install and the dependency tree from there? |
| 20:14.00 | dondelelcaro | gnat_x: no problem |
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| 20:14.20 | dondelelcaro | ciscon_: debootstrap/cdebootstrap can do that... |
| 20:14.29 | gusteru | hi ! I want to install yacc but not work with apt-get install yacc |
| 20:14.55 | ciscon_ | can they? i thought perhaps one of the variants in debootstrap could but i sure couldn't figure it out :-P |
| 20:15.03 | dondelelcaro | gusteru: you almost certainly actually want bison, not yacc. |
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| 20:16.10 | dondelelcaro | ciscon_: yes, using the --variant=minbase and --include options |
| 20:16.16 | gusteru | dondelelcaro flex and byacc |
| 20:16.33 | dondelelcaro | gusteru: if you want byacc, it's byacc. |
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| 20:17.25 | ciscon_ | awesome, thanks |
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| 20:18.40 | dondelelcaro | np |
| 20:19.12 | gusteru | dondelelcaro thanks |
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| 20:46.11 | ciscon_ | debootstrap --arch=amd64 --variant=minbase --include=iceweasel stable /var/browser_chroot ---- installs tons of stuff :-( |
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| 20:55.07 | nullby7e | how lonw wheezy is freeze |
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| 21:17.30 | tehrabbitt | hey :\ |
| 21:17.37 | tehrabbitt | erm |
| 21:17.38 | tehrabbitt | :)* |
| 21:17.39 | tehrabbitt | lol |
| 21:17.42 | format_c | hi |
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| 21:58.22 | acu | !paste |
| 21:58.23 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 21:59.09 | babilen | acu: Please message the bot (/msg dpkg paste) or use a search engine |
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| 22:11.58 | thoonai | hi |
| 22:12.21 | thoonai | does someone has a script, which detects cds if put in drive? |
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| 22:13.56 | Arrowmaster | i think udisks does that |
| 22:14.29 | thoonai | I need an idea how to play a cd automatically when put in |
| 22:14.40 | jhutchins_wk | thoonai: Are you running a desktop manager? |
| 22:14.44 | thoonai | no |
| 22:14.45 | TheGrey | o/ Can I increase the size of my root partition. It is only 323M in size and 300MB is full.... |
| 22:15.18 | jhutchins_wk | TheGrey: Do you have more space on the drive? (This, by the way, is why I don't partition.) |
| 22:15.23 | dawud | TheGrey: depends on the layout |
| 22:15.52 | TheGrey | Yes, tons of empty space..Its a 1TB hard.drive...I regret immediately the size of this.. |
| 22:16.12 | thoonai | jhutchins_wk: no |
| 22:16.19 | jhutchins_wk | thoonai: Try to be a bit more generous with details in your reply. You're looking for a way to play (what kind of?) discs when you put them in the drive on what kind of interface? CLI? |
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| 22:16.46 | TheGrey | :jhutchins_wk: please, is there a way to increase its size? |
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| 22:17.08 | jhutchins_wk | TheGrey: Two ways: parted can grow a partition if the extra space is available, and it can move partitions to get the extra space where you need it. |
| 22:17.35 | jhutchins_wk | TheGrey: That said, it's not smart to mess with partitions unless you have a backup, and as long as you have a backup just repartition and restore. |
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| 22:18.03 | TheGrey | cheers |
| 22:18.05 | dawud | TheGrey: ..and while you are at it, use VGs/LVs :) |
| 22:18.05 | jhutchins_wk | TheGrey: In my experience the latter is much faster. |
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| 22:19.44 | thoonai | jhutchins_wk: ive an thinclient with debian running on it without, an external usb cd drive plugged in, now it should play analog audio cds when they are put in the drive |
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| 22:22.42 | thoonai | jhutchins_wk: i hope this is enough information |
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| 22:23.38 | babilen | ,i cdde |
| 22:23.39 | judd | Package cdde (utils, extra) in squeeze/i386: CD Detect & Execute utility. Version: 0.3.1-1; Size: 13.8k; Installed: 84k; Homepage: http://cdde.sourceforge.net/ |
| 22:23.42 | jhutchins_wk | thoonai: You'll need to write a udev rule that triggers a player to play the disc when it detects a mount. I wouldn't know the details off the top of my head, but it shouldn't be too hard. |
| 22:24.10 | jhutchins_wk | Oooh - looks like someone already did! |
| 22:24.25 | jhutchins_wk | thoonai: Lucky you! |
| 22:24.26 | babilen | thoonai: ^^^ among others found if you run "apt-cache search cd detect" - udev would be an approach and I am sure that many people faced this problem before |
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| 22:28.43 | The-Croupier_ | hi guys, i am trying to keep everything up to day and its just a fresh install... i cannot find any actual working reps though... http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze is broken it says |
| 22:28.50 | The-Croupier_ | am i in the wrong place completely |
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| 22:29.29 | babilen | dpkg: tell The-Croupier_ -about make squeeze sources.list |
| 22:29.38 | thoonai | thanks |
| 22:29.40 | thoonai | :) |
| 22:30.02 | babilen | The-Croupier_: You end up with something like http://paste.debian.net/222966/ |
| 22:30.48 | babilen | The-Croupier_: and what do you mean by "is broken it says" ? |
| 22:31.32 | The-Croupier_ | Package Repository : http://ftp.debian.org/dists/squeeze/ ... when clicking on it.. it says its broken :( maybe im doing something wrong |
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| 22:36.45 | LtL | The-Croupier_: you need a country code e.g., http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free |
| 22:37.48 | The-Croupier_ | very new here... still reading all that... where do i need that to...and how can i install some productive software |
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| 22:39.00 | LtL | The-Croupier_: it goes in /etc/apt/sources.list with a security line also |
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| 22:40.01 | babilen | The-Croupier_: You might want to read http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/apt.html -- I would recommend to use http://paste.debian.net/222966/ as /etc/apt/sources.list and run "apt-get update" after editing that file |
| 22:40.12 | LtL | The-Croupier_: dpkg sent you a message about the sources.list i advice you read it. |
| 22:40.22 | LtL | advise* |
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| 22:41.17 | The-Croupier_ | i did ;) read it |
| 22:41.19 | The-Croupier_ | thank you |
| 22:41.23 | babilen | The-Croupier_: What do you mean by "productive software" ? Can you give me an example of such a software? |
| 22:41.31 | The-Croupier_ | and i also am reading the wiki |
| 22:41.48 | The-Croupier_ | im having some trouble with thunderbird |
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| 22:41.53 | The-Croupier_ | and skype |
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| 22:43.32 | babilen | The-Croupier_: The newest version of skype does /not/ run on squeeze as far as I know. Thunderbird is called Icedove in Debian and you might want to consider installing a newer version of Icedove from http://mozilla.debian.net |
| 22:44.07 | babilen | The-Croupier_: Is a working skype important for you? |
| 22:44.49 | Infiltrator | babilen: Is it better to install from http://mozilla.debian.net than to use backports? |
| 22:44.58 | babilen | The-Croupier_: to be honest: I would actually recommend that you simply install a newer version of Debian that will be released as stable soonish -- do you have a working internet connection during the installation? |
| 22:45.11 | The-Croupier_ | yes, my mother is in greece and just got diagnosed with breast cancer :( also... some of my clients are in other places... so skype or any other skype supporting software does not matter |
| 22:45.17 | babilen | Infiltrator: backports has only 3.1 of icedove while http://mozilla.debian.net has the ESR release |
| 22:45.40 | The-Croupier_ | babilen, i would love too |
| 22:45.53 | The-Croupier_ | babilen, what would be the best way to update/upgrade |
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| 22:46.01 | babilen | The-Croupier_: Sure, I completely understand that need. The situation is simply that skype no longer support Squeeze (Debian 6.0.*) but targets a newer Debian release. |
| 22:46.20 | babilen | The-Croupier_: How old is your installation and are you connected to the internet? |
| 22:46.21 | The-Croupier_ | babilen, i thought i was running a new version :( |
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| 22:46.34 | The-Croupier_ | babilen, one day... and yes i am connected online |
| 22:46.36 | Infiltrator | babilen: Cool. But in the general case prefer backports, yes? |
| 22:46.56 | babilen | The-Croupier_: Well, you are running the latest release -- The /next/ release is wheezy and will be released soon (~2-5 months I reckon) |
| 22:46.59 | babilen | Infiltrator: Yes |
| 22:47.01 | The-Croupier_ | i have only one laptop |
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| 22:47.38 | The-Croupier_ | babilen, awesome looking forward to it... that gives me 2 months to read/contribute ;) |
| 22:47.40 | babilen | The-Croupier_: Due to the fact that this will happen soon and the fact that wheezy is quite usable right now I would recommend to use it in this case |
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| 22:48.04 | The-Croupier_ | babilen, what do you suggest would be the best way to update/upgrade? |
| 22:48.12 | babilen | The-Croupier_: You can already install it or upgrade to it. How old is your installation? |
| 22:48.13 | The-Croupier_ | the most painless way |
| 22:48.23 | The-Croupier_ | babilen, one day |
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| 22:48.54 | The-Croupier_ | installed yesterday at some pint early in the morning |
| 22:49.04 | The-Croupier_ | Nach0z, greetings |
| 22:49.29 | Nach0z | Yello. |
| 22:49.59 | babilen | The-Croupier_: You can either upgrade by following "/msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy" or by reinstalling using the wheezy installer. Would you have a working internet connection during the installation? |
| 22:50.30 | The-Croupier_ | what do you mean? |
| 22:51.10 | babilen | The-Croupier_: Can you connect your computer to the internet during the installation and if yes: How? (Ethernet, wireless, encrypted wireless, ...) ? |
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| 22:51.42 | The-Croupier_ | babilen, yes, its already connected, and its ethernet |
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| 22:52.57 | babilen | The-Croupier_: You have two options: You can either upgrade your squeeze installation to wheezy or install wheezy from scratch -- Both shouldn't be too hard, but it might be easier for you to simply reinstall. You can get installation media from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/wheezy_di_beta4/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 22:53.08 | babilen | dpkg: squeeze->wheezy |
| 22:53.08 | dpkg | First, understand that testing is a pre-release distribution without timely security support and that you may have a slightly bumpy ride; ask me about <moving target> <testing> <testing security>. From /etc/apt/sources.list, remove stable-specific lines like squeeze-updates and backports, and change squeeze to wheezy. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. If you feel you need more instructions, perhaps you should wait a while. |
| 22:53.13 | abrotman | bottell! |
| 22:53.24 | babilen | abrotman: :) |
| 22:54.09 | Infiltrator | !tell babilen -about tell |
| 22:54.13 | Infiltrator | :D |
| 22:54.16 | jhutchins_wk | Making the bot replies public helps reduce redundant posts from other users. |
| 22:54.33 | babilen | The-Croupier_: ^^^ That summarises the upgrade procedure from squeeze to wheezy -- After you've done that you can install skype by following the instructions for wheezy multiarch on http://wiki.debian.org/skype |
| 22:54.39 | Infiltrator | jhutchins_wk: It's a judgement call, really; sometime one way works best; sometimes another. |
| 22:54.41 | jhutchins_wk | It also informs those who may be following the discussion but are not the one asking the questions. |
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| 22:55.36 | abrotman | jhutchins_wk: no, not really |
| 22:55.44 | abrotman | jhutchins_wk: they can also msg the bot for the sam einformation |
| 22:56.00 | babilen | Infiltrator: Trust me -- I know that, but I deemed it advantageous to invoke the factoid in public (for others to see) -- given the reactions and prolonged discussion about that decision I now deem it suboptimal |
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| 22:56.45 | The-Croupier_ | babilen, is there another alternative...since i am very very new to this... so that i have some time to read before i start upgrading... or just changing the file and upgrading while online should do the trick/ |
| 22:56.55 | abrotman | i think i personally object to the longer factoids, especially the ones that have references to many other long factoids that then end up all called in the channel |
| 22:57.39 | babilen | yeah, likewise -- I almost never invoke a factoid in public and there ... </stopthisdiscussion> |
| 22:57.40 | The-Croupier_ | you guys are right, that was my fault i was probably not making myself clear that i understand what babilen was saying ... and that i did read the message |
| 22:57.46 | Infiltrator | babilen: I was merely being snarky. To be honest, I think that you probably made the correct call. |
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| 22:59.01 | babilen | The-Croupier_: You can /not/ use the current version of Skype on the version of Debian you are using. You might be able to find older skype versions somewhere (I think you need 2.0.35) that still support Squeeze, but I have no idea where you might be able to find them (and frankly: we do /not/ support skype) |
| 22:59.09 | Infiltrator | The-Croupier_: This was more of a facetious discussion and none of the blame rests on you. Don't worry about it. |
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| 23:00.41 | The-Croupier_ | babilen, i understand. |
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| 23:01.51 | The-Croupier_ | i will do as instructed soon, i will try to upgrade ;) |
| 23:01.55 | The-Croupier_ | thank you guys |
| 23:02.14 | Infiltrator | The-Croupier_: Feel free to come back here if you need more help. |
| 23:02.43 | babilen | The-Croupier_: I am convinced that the best thing for you to do right now is to install wheezy (or upgrade to it if you can follow the factoid above). This is primarily based on the fact that wheezy will be released soon anyway and your necessity to use skype |
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| 23:03.58 | The-Croupier_ | one question: if i update/upgrade by following the above and changing the rep-list... what will be affected? any personal files?or only system files? |
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| 23:04.08 | babilen | The-Croupier_: There are /some/ bugs that affect specifically the upgrade from squeeze to wheezy (hence my recommendation to install it new) -- Well, you know your options now and relevant documentation (read the handbook!) to familiarise yourself with Debian. I would also read the tutorials linked in "/msg dpkg general cli tutorial" |
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| 23:04.41 | rmoore | I can't seem to make heads or tails of "man interfaces". I've tried everything but I can't set my laptop to automatically connect when an ethernet cable's plugged in. |
| 23:04.46 | Infiltrator | The-Croupier_: In theory, only system files. |
| 23:04.49 | babilen | The-Croupier_: Your personal files should not be affected apart from configuration files (newer program versions might need different configuration files) |
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| 23:05.10 | Infiltrator | The-Croupier_: But you said that your installation is only a day old? Do you have anything on there yet? |
| 23:05.35 | Infiltrator | rmoore: pastebin your /etc/interfaces? |
| 23:05.44 | tharkun | Is there anything more cryptic than the sudoers man page? |
| 23:05.55 | mmnicolas | If I'm using neither a DE or a DM, just a WM, is using xmodmap still the correct way to set a keyboard layout ? |
| 23:06.01 | abrotman | tharkun: samba docs |
| 23:06.09 | rmoore | one sec |
| 23:06.12 | babilen | rmoore: You can configure /etc/network/interfaces all you want, but a connection will not be configured unless /you/ (or something else) asks for that explicitly. most people use tools such as network-manager to handle this, but there was something that triggers actions when a cable is plugged in. Let me search |
| 23:06.40 | thoonai | babilen: I just have to edit the .conf and thats all, or? |
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| 23:06.52 | babilen | rmoore: Is the interface you configured brought up if you run "ifup IFACE" (or if you have "auto IFACE" in there "ifup -a") |
| 23:07.03 | babilen | thoonai: Are you referring to cdda? |
| 23:07.10 | thoonai | babilen: yes |
| 23:07.10 | babilen | err, cdde |
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| 23:07.25 | tharkun | abrotman: ok, that is a close second |
| 23:07.31 | rmoore | my /etc/network/interfaces is just auto lo eth0... weird |
| 23:07.34 | babilen | rmoore: Take a look at ifplugd |
| 23:08.08 | babilen | rmoore: What do you want your system to behave like? Are you using a desktop environment? (which?) Do you have to connect to multiple/changing networks? |
| 23:08.25 | rmoore | i jus want it to connect to whatever network it's plugged into using ethernet |
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| 23:08.43 | The-Croupier_ | babilen, just informative question...to know when can this process be applied |
| 23:08.49 | babilen | thoonai: I don't know that tool -- It simply looked like a tool that does what you were looking for. I would recommend to read its documentation in /usr/share/doc/cdde/* (if any) and manpages |
| 23:09.13 | rmoore | I don't switch networks commonly or anything. |
| 23:09.16 | babilen | The-Croupier_: I don't quite understand that question -- You can upgrade whenever you want (or reinstall fwiw) |
| 23:09.45 | babilen | rmoore: Do you unlplug the cable regularly? |
| 23:09.52 | rmoore | fairly regularly |
| 23:10.11 | babilen | rmoore: And you want the system to reconnect whenever you plug the cable in? |
| 23:10.16 | rmoore | yes |
| 23:10.25 | rmoore | i just grabbed network-manager. should that do the trick? |
| 23:10.51 | tharkun | IIRC that is what the default interfaces do. |
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| 23:11.32 | babilen | rmoore: network-manager should do the trick (and more) -- ifplugd would be an alternative, but NM is fine. Make sure to read http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager and in particular make sure that you /do not/ have anything about eth0 in your /etc/network/interfaces |
| 23:12.15 | rmoore | I don't have ANYTHING in my etc/network/interfaces |
| 23:12.18 | rmoore | i take it thats a bad thing? |
| 23:12.40 | rwp | You would normally have hte loopback localhost device there. |
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| 23:13.34 | rwp | At the least: auto lo <newline> iface lo inet loopback <newline> |
| 23:13.55 | sirToast | mmnicolas: I don't see why xmodmap wouldn't work. you can use setxkbmap too to set a plain layout if you don't need to modify it |
| 23:14.17 | zzing | I have a server that is on 'testing', and it appears that 'sid' has some packages that I want (mongodb, nodes). Is there a mechanism that I could add those to my testing without having to add binary packages from sid? (for example, can I build the packages from source with stuff I have in testing). |
| 23:14.44 | tharkun | !tell zzing about ssb |
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| 23:15.15 | tharkun | Modify to taste :) |
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| 23:15.29 | zzing | tharkun, exactly what I was looking for, thank you. |
| 23:15.38 | tharkun | np |
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| 23:18.31 | pmo | Hey do any of you have issues running gparted on debian wheezy? |
| 23:18.46 | pmo | when i do gksudo gparted i get (gksudo:9387): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_str_has_prefix: assertion `str != NULL' failed |
| 23:20.51 | abrotman | pmo: is your wheezy fully up to date? |
| 23:20.58 | pmo | yes |
| 23:21.16 | pmo | let me try check again, havent checked in a few hours |
| 23:21.51 | zzing | After a package what does {a} mean? |
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| 23:22.18 | pmo | only python-xdg and weechat that got updated abrotman |
| 23:23.15 | abrotman | that's fun |
| 23:23.18 | abrotman | zzing: automatic |
| 23:23.25 | zzing | ok |
| 23:23.27 | abrotman | !tell zzing about aptitude states |
| 23:23.46 | abrotman | pmo: sux does the same? |
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| 23:23.59 | zzing | I wonder if it might be good to have dpkg respond to things like {a} which is what I would ask it about (and did) |
| 23:24.00 | pmo | still does the same |
| 23:24.37 | davidos | hello, i have a question, how can i see what doing a user on his terminal? |
| 23:24.48 | davidos | on my server ;) |
| 23:25.05 | abrotman | davidos: does snoopy still exist? |
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| 23:25.45 | pmo | any idea what it could be abrotman ? |
| 23:26.09 | abrotman | a programming error |
| 23:26.22 | pmo | in gksudo? |
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| 23:26.42 | abrotman | pmo: did you even attempt to check the BTS? |
| 23:26.45 | xsappyx | davidos: depends on what level you're looking for.. check what processes he is running ps, tail his shell history file, or like abrotman says, snoopy is really good |
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| 23:27.07 | babilen | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=686844 |
| 23:27.12 | abrotman | or try gksu |
| 23:27.15 | pmo | abrotman: yes.. issues from way back etc |
| 23:27.17 | davidos | ì`d like to see what are he doing now ;) |
| 23:27.19 | babilen | pmo: ^^^ check it yourself next time please |
| 23:27.27 | davidos | i`d like to see his terminal |
| 23:27.28 | abrotman | judd: info snoopy |
| 23:27.29 | judd | No package named 'snoopy' was found in squeeze/i386. |
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| 23:27.45 | abrotman | bah! lies1 |
| 23:28.00 | abrotman | judd: versions snoopy |
| 23:28.01 | judd | Package: snoopy on i386 -- lenny: 1.3-15; squeeze-backports: 1.8.0-2~bpo60+1; sid: 1.8.0-5; wheezy: 1.8.0-5 |
| 23:28.10 | babilen | heh |
| 23:28.11 | pmo | babilen: i was searching gksudo |
| 23:28.16 | pmo | im on that site already |
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| 23:28.32 | pmo | let me read this one |
| 23:28.36 | pmo | and thanks babilen :) |
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| 23:29.20 | babilen | pmo: The package that contains gksudo is gksu (cf. "apt-file search -x "bin/gksudo$"" -- But yeah, that is the bug and it is a bug and I haven't read it yet :) |
| 23:29.28 | babilen | ) |
| 23:29.51 | pmo | ah not much to do about it for now then :) |
| 23:30.03 | pmo | i am on wheezy after all hehe |
| 23:30.52 | babilen | pmo: Well, you can try to help fixing it |
| 23:31.02 | pmo | if i only was able to :) |
| 23:31.04 | davidos | What I must do for see my user terminal? No package named 'snoopy' |
| 23:31.11 | abrotman | !tell davidos about bpo |
| 23:35.18 | pmo | haha babilen.. scrolled a bit down.. 4 posts down was the bug you posted to me :) |
| 23:35.48 | pmo | debian usenet tho |
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| 23:36.57 | zzing | If I have a package that I updated to a newer source version with uupdate, is there a way I can prevent patches from being applied? |
| 23:37.11 | abrotman | !tell zzing about hold |
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| 23:38.01 | zzing | abrotman, source patches are building applied when this thing is being build, I do not want them applied. I would hold it after that is build, but I am not there yet. |
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| 23:40.51 | davidos | abrotman: how to use this snoopy, i`ve installed it |
| 23:41.03 | abrotman | man snoopy |
| 23:41.54 | davidos | man snoopy - not working |
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| 23:42.05 | davidos | i havent got manual |
| 23:42.14 | davidos | i don`t know why |
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| 23:43.25 | Infiltrator | davidos: You don't have man; or you don't have the man page for snoopy? |
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| 23:43.39 | Infiltrator | ,versions snoopy-doc |
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| 23:43.45 | judd | No package named 'snoopy-doc' was found in i386. |
| 23:43.49 | davidos | man page |
| 23:44.07 | Infiltrator | davidos: It may not have one. |
| 23:44.17 | Infiltrator | Try snoopy --help |
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| 23:46.04 | davidos | not working |
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| 23:46.31 | Infiltrator | Have a look in /usr/share/doc/snoopy? |
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| 23:52.28 | davidos | how to turn on this snoopy |
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| 23:55.28 | wolfmitchell | How would I use apt-get to update from squeeze to wheezy? |
| 23:55.48 | abrotman | !tell wolfmitchell about squeeze->wheezy |
| 23:56.25 | wolfmitchell | ah |
| 23:56.26 | wolfmitchell | thanks |
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| 23:59.01 | davidos | ok another question, how Can I Connect to user terminal and see what is he doing? |
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