| 00:00.12 | Brigo | davidos: you can see his bash history. |
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| 00:00.51 | zzing | I suspect that what davidos wants is what 'watch' in freebsd can do, peek in on the stream of characters so it reproduces the target's screen on his local |
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| 00:01.30 | davidos | zzing: yes |
| 00:01.42 | zzing | I couldn't find anything in linux to reproduce this |
| 00:01.49 | Brigo | zzing: there is a watch command in linux too. |
| 00:02.01 | zzing | Brigo, but that command doesn't do the same thing |
| 00:02.07 | Brigo | ah, ok. |
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| 00:05.52 | Brigo | ttysnoop, i think |
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| 00:09.01 | Brigo | davidos: did you read me? :-)ç |
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| 00:11.28 | LtL | davidos: for what it's worth you can attach to another user's 'screen' with 'screen -x' but it's not quite as simple as that. |
| 00:11.47 | abrotman | if they have screen running? |
| 00:11.59 | LtL | correct, naturally. |
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| 00:28.43 | wolfmitchell | k |
| 00:28.47 | wolfmitchell | updating to wheezy |
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| 00:38.04 | thoonai | babilen: are you there? |
| 00:41.15 | Infiltrator | thoonai: Asking the channel what you need is better than asking somebody if they're here. |
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| 00:43.39 | thoonai | Infiltrator: my cdde is doing nothing at all |
| 00:43.40 | thoonai | :9 |
| 00:43.43 | thoonai | :( |
| 00:44.07 | Infiltrator | cdde? |
| 00:44.13 | Infiltrator | !tell thoonai -about ask |
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| 00:45.17 | thoonai | I installed cdde and instead of printing strings to cli its doing othing at all, cdde detects cds/dvds automatically and runs custom commands |
| 00:45.20 | pmo | hmm would it be dumb of me to compile the latest stable kernel for debian? |
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| 00:45.53 | thoonai | pmo: depends on the purpose of your system ^^ |
| 00:46.17 | pmo | desktop |
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| 00:47.12 | Infiltrator | pmo: Why do you want to compile it yourself? |
| 00:47.17 | user1 | pmo: do you have any special needs? If not, then there's no use in wasting the time. |
| 00:47.25 | Infiltrator | pmo: If for the fun/learning of it, then no it's not. |
| 00:47.38 | pmo | it was more for the fun |
| 00:47.43 | pmo | no real "need" |
| 00:48.16 | Infiltrator | thoonai: Are you sure that it's running? |
| 00:48.20 | pmo | i was just wondering if it would mess up if i went from 3.2.x to 3.7.1 (stable) |
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| 00:48.58 | thoonai | Infiltrator: yes |
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| 00:50.03 | BLZbubba | hi guys, i have a bridge interface in /etc/network/interfaces that is just a bridge for VM's, the server itself shouldn't have an address |
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| 00:50.29 | BLZbubba | however, it is complaining with this error: Missing required variable: address |
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| 00:50.47 | BLZbubba | is there a special way to specify an interface with no address? |
| 00:51.01 | BLZbubba | i could make up a fake one if i had to, but i would prefer not to |
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| 00:51.32 | Infiltrator | BLZbubba: Just don't use the inet ip addr line? |
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| 00:54.04 | zzing | Is there anything that would reasonably make me not want to switch the root shell to zsh? I just want to make sure I don't break anything in emergency situations. |
| 00:54.08 | BLZbubba | Infiltrator: ah yeah, i set it to manual and it works great. thanks!!! |
| 00:54.45 | Infiltrator | zzing: Better question is probably: why do you want to do so? |
| 00:54.46 | k-man | i recently migrated upgraded my machine from a physical machine to a vm, but also from squeeze to wheezy in the process. now GDM only shows a black screen with the mouse as a watch icon |
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| 00:55.01 | k-man | any ideas what might be the problem? I can successfully start X using startx |
| 00:55.03 | Infiltrator | k-man: Video driver problem, I'd say. |
| 00:55.05 | zzing | Infiltrator, personal preference mainly. |
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| 00:55.24 | Infiltrator | zzing: You could always leave the root shell at default and run zsh whenever you get into it? |
| 00:55.27 | k-man | Infiltrator, how might i diagnose it? |
| 00:55.49 | zzing | Infiltrator, would it be reasonable to have it in my .profile to execute? |
| 00:56.09 | user1 | zzing: I have been using zsh as the root shell for a long time. No real problems, and if I need to, I can drop to bash or sh at any time I need. |
| 00:56.16 | Infiltrator | k-man: Well, my guess is that you had a driver for when it was physical, but since you moved it to a VM, it's now seeing different hardware. At least that's my guess. |
| 00:56.34 | BLZbubba | zzing: just healthy paranoia. can't you make an alias and exec zsh when you need to? |
| 00:57.04 | k-man | but i reconfigured X and installed the vmware driver. I can start X with startx fine |
| 00:57.06 | BLZbubba | scripts should have the sh command at the top though so it should be safe if you have console to un-do |
| 00:57.10 | zzing | BLZbubba, that would be delay in the thinking process when I want to do something it would break concentration. |
| 00:57.46 | zzing | BLZbubba, what is the source of paranoia which would be healthy for this situation? |
| 00:58.01 | user1 | zsh is mature enough to be your root shell, and if you find yourself in the uberrare siutation where you need bash or any other shell, youc an just use that manually. |
| 00:58.03 | user1 | I have had no problems. None. |
| 00:58.10 | Infiltrator | k-man: So if you startx manually, does gdm load? |
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| 00:59.53 | k-man | no, gdm just shows a black screen |
| 01:00.17 | k-man | Infiltrator, i don't follow your question |
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| 01:01.36 | zzing | When I do a sudo -s, when I was running zsh, and it now executes bash with privileges, where does it read the PS1 setting from? It just goes down to hostname with # after it, when I have attempted to setup a better prompt but it doesn't read it from any of the usual candidates (.profile, .bashrc, .bash_profile). |
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| 01:02.22 | Infiltrator | zzing: It would read it from /root/.whatever, I think. |
| 01:02.30 | zzing | That is what I thought |
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| 01:05.01 | seeker61 | two questions 1. how do i get squeeze to run dhclient eth0 at boot and 2. related how do i get sqeeze to not autoconnect to wireless |
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| 01:06.42 | zzing | seeker61, is /etc/network/interfaces setup? |
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| 01:06.57 | thoonai | so nobodys helping |
| 01:07.11 | seeker61 | zzing: not sure what am i suppose to see when i get there |
| 01:07.13 | thoonai | Infiltrator: now. im still stuck |
| 01:07.56 | Infiltrator | k-man: Then we have something in common. :) |
| 01:08.04 | Infiltrator | k-man: Does any other DM/WM work? |
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| 01:09.01 | Infiltrator | thoonai: I'm sorry; I don't know anything about cdde. All I can think of is check the logs and/or turn on debugging more for cdde and/or your scripts that you're running. |
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| 01:09.18 | Infiltrator | s/more/mode/ |
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| 01:11.39 | seeker61 | zzing: #loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback #the primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp |
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| 01:11.56 | zzing | seeker61, then it looks like it does dhclient already |
| 01:12.02 | zzing | manpage: interfaces |
| 01:12.41 | seeker61 | zzing: then how do i have wireless connection not enabled at boot |
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| 01:13.17 | zzing | Because it probably doesn't configure wpa_supplicant, it is much more involved than wired. Is this a gui computer or a server? |
| 01:13.36 | seeker61 | gui |
| 01:14.07 | zzing | There is a utility that is used in a gui to configure it. It used to be called 'network manager' I think. |
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| 01:15.27 | seeker61 | zzing: i have network manager but i have to type in security key everytime I boot and then uncheck enable and then I need to do dhclient eth0 and then my wired works |
| 01:16.04 | zzing | seeker61, this sounds like a thing you should turn to google for. I have not used a linux gui in about five years. |
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| 01:16.10 | seeker61 | what can I research to learn more about this? and it is also asking for login keyring password and I just cancel out of that screen |
| 01:16.30 | zzing | Well the password would be saved in the login keyring |
| 01:16.56 | engla | you should check the box to make that connection available to all users of the system |
| 01:16.58 | zzing | Try creating a new account on the system and login with that. If it works, then it might be an issue with the .files |
| 01:17.27 | seeker61 | zzing: ok thankis you have been very helpful |
| 01:17.29 | engla | now that doesn't change the autoconnection. NM will not handle wireless interfaces mentioned in the interfaces file |
| 01:17.39 | zzing | I am glad I could help with as little as I did. |
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| 01:18.06 | average_drifter | my CPU went 70 deg C |
| 01:18.11 | average_drifter | is that bad ? |
| 01:18.21 | average_drifter | fan kicked in taking it down to 69 C |
| 01:18.34 | average_drifter | what's a temperature to look out for ? |
| 01:18.37 | thoonai | average_drifter: yes, but depends |
| 01:18.48 | average_drifter | thoonai: depends on ? |
| 01:18.52 | thoonai | average_drifter: ~50 deg C |
| 01:19.01 | average_drifter | thoonai: what about 50 ? |
| 01:19.09 | average_drifter | I have 66 constant ... |
| 01:19.13 | average_drifter | I got 66 C constant ... |
| 01:19.15 | thoonai | average_drifter: which cpu and which task which os |
| 01:19.19 | average_drifter | is that really weird ? |
| 01:19.25 | thoonai | average_drifter: no |
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| 01:19.29 | average_drifter | thoonai: Debian of course |
| 01:19.34 | average_drifter | thoonai: actually ubuntu |
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| 01:19.47 | abrotman | average_drifter: please use #ubuntu for support, thank you |
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| 01:20.21 | thoonai | mobile cpus are ~ 60-70 degree celsius desktops should be around 50 deg C |
| 01:21.08 | abrotman | thoonai: please go to #ubuntu if you want to help him |
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| 01:21.34 | thoonai | abrotman: but hes using debian too |
| 01:21.40 | Towzzer | 66 isn't going to cause crashing |
| 01:21.46 | Towzzer | thought it is hot |
| 01:22.09 | thoonai | Towzzer: i think the question was about default temperature |
| 01:22.12 | abrotman | thoonai: no, he's using ubuntu, that's offtopic here |
| 01:22.32 | Towzzer | ubuntu uses at least 100% of a single core making window effects :D |
| 01:22.32 | thoonai | he has left ... |
| 01:22.43 | thoonai | Towzzer: not mine |
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| 01:22.53 | abrotman | could we drop it? it's not a Debian question |
| 01:23.16 | thoonai | abrotman: im using 4 different systems and cdde is not working on my debian machine right now |
| 01:23.26 | thoonai | does someone may help me? |
| 01:23.27 | thoonai | :) |
| 01:23.59 | abrotman | perhaps you sohuld give some usable details |
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| 01:25.22 | thoonai | abrotman: ok I installed cdde looked in the config and got depressed, because its running and nothing printing to the cli |
| 01:25.32 | thoonai | no desktop, nothing except alsa and mpd |
| 01:25.36 | abrotman | that's not a really usable detail |
| 01:26.01 | thoonai | hm |
| 01:26.02 | abrotman | thoonai: cdde is already in Debian, why would you compile it? |
| 01:26.14 | thoonai | I apt-getted it |
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| 01:32.09 | dsagh | hi there |
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| 01:32.30 | dsagh | how can I access bios via linux? |
| 01:32.39 | abrotman | to do what? |
| 01:33.33 | dsagh | read/write |
| 01:33.36 | thoonai | abrotman: now? |
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| 01:33.46 | gnarface | dsagh: well you read dump the settings usually with dmidecode ... |
| 01:34.10 | abrotman | dsagh: read/write what? |
| 01:34.44 | dsagh | gnarface, those settings are in what format? |
| 01:35.05 | abrotman | try it and see |
| 01:35.35 | gnarface | dsagh: i think the design pattern can most accurately be describe as "a fucking mess" |
| 01:36.36 | dsagh | gnarface, :) ok but how can I translate it into usable info? |
| 01:36.51 | zjhxmjl | hi,guys |
| 01:36.51 | zjhxmjl | /usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl -k start(use "-k" ,what's mean) |
| 01:37.09 | abrotman | zjhxmjl: did yo ulook at the man page? |
| 01:37.10 | gnarface | dsagh: that puzzle is left to the reader to solve .i know there IS a way to write settings to the BIOS too, if you have the right kernel configuration, but i don't think anyone would claim that is safe or even advised. |
| 01:37.57 | dsagh | gnarface, bios passwords are stored in plaintext? Im trying to recover a bricked computer |
| 01:38.08 | zjhxmjl | abrotman:yes,but i cannot find |
| 01:38.13 | abrotman | zjhxmjl: read it again |
| 01:38.20 | gnarface | dsagh: no idea, no way to know. just run it and get a text dump of your current settings and you'll see what i mean. its all implementation-specific. you can guess at a lot of the meanings if you're familiar with your own settings |
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| 01:38.51 | dsagh | gnarface, so I want to know under what subsystem is stored that dev or even if bios dev exists at all |
| 01:39.07 | abrotman | zjhxmjl: where does it tell you to go for full documentation? |
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| 01:41.51 | gnarface | dsagh: that's the part i don't know. *believe* though that if you have the right kernel configuration that your bios settings become represented in /proc somewhere... and i've heard you can write to them if you know what you're doing, but its not always effective (some settings only get read at boot) or safe (some settings are only expected to ever change before boot) |
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| 01:43.29 | dsagh | gnarface, dmidecode reads from /dev/mem but that doesnt makes sense to me if we are talking about bios |
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| 02:15.11 | alephant | Hey all… how do I tell whether package foo has been compiled with support for bar? |
| 02:15.16 | alephant | (e.g. pppd and PAM) |
| 02:15.33 | abrotman | !tell alephant about debian/rules |
| 02:16.45 | alephant | perfect - and that's found in the build directory created by apt-get source <foo>? |
| 02:17.20 | petemc | you can sometimes use ldd to get an idea too |
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| 02:31.06 | Alestan | So, I'm trying to build gcc-4.7 from the debian sources, (apt-get source gcc-4.7). debuild fails because it can't apply patches to the docs, because the docs have been removed because they don't conform to the Debian free software guide. I next tried ./compile && make && checkinstall, and it fails due to a missing directory. So my question is this: How is the package compiled for the repository? |
| 02:31.37 | Alestan | (Note that compiling the latest source direct from the gcc folks using configure, make, checkinstall works fine) |
| 02:32.10 | abrotman | the docs are in non-free |
| 02:33.28 | Alestan | I am aware of that, but they are their own debian package there. |
| 02:34.10 | abrotman | same source package IIRC |
| 02:34.10 | Alestan | I suppose I could rip the guts out of gcc-4.7-doc and see if it can compile that way... |
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| 02:34.27 | Alestan | It is not, or if so then the doc package suffers the same problems. |
| 02:35.19 | cesurasean | when i try chroot ( which worked yesterday ), i am getting this, yet the file is there. - chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory |
| 02:35.20 | abrotman | can't you just change the make file to not build them ? |
| 02:35.22 | cesurasean | how do i fix? |
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| 02:35.54 | Alestan | cesurasean make sure that <chrootpath>/bin/bash exists and is executable. |
| 02:36.01 | cesurasean | it is |
| 02:36.16 | cesurasean | well, let me show you, hold on |
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| 02:36.43 | cesurasean | ls says this; -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 926536 Apr 10 2010 bash |
| 02:37.19 | cesurasean | was having same problem when i put debootstrap into just /home, and reboot. |
| 02:37.38 | Alestan | I might be able to just change the debuild scripts, to omit that patch, but it still leaves me wondering how the package is supposed to be built, since the autobuild scripts fail and have failed for the last 6 months. It also affects gcc-4.5 and gcc-4.6 packages. |
| 02:37.53 | Alestan | You're using debootstrap for it? |
| 02:38.22 | Alestan | The chroot, is it the same architecture? |
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| 02:38.45 | Alestan | If so, you should be able to go `cd <chrootpath>/bin;./bash` |
| 02:39.04 | Alestan | if that doesn't work, try to figure out why. |
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| 02:39.21 | Alestan | If it does work, then the problem is with chroot, probably not finding a library it wants. |
| 02:39.49 | Alestan | Also, if you have anywhere else you can try chrooting into, try and see if it is this chroot in particular that is the problem. |
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| 02:40.09 | cesurasean | Alestan, it does work. |
| 02:40.14 | cesurasean | no problems when i run bash |
| 02:40.20 | cesurasean | it acts the same way my system does |
| 02:40.33 | abrotman | tried /bin/sh? |
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| 02:41.01 | cesurasean | that one goes to a $ |
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| 02:41.22 | cesurasean | it was working until i reboot, i think |
| 02:41.35 | Alestan | try <rootcmd> chroot <chrootpath> /bin/sh |
| 02:41.36 | cesurasean | also i notice that in putty it was white/black and now it's green.... |
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| 02:41.39 | cesurasean | whatever that means. |
| 02:42.29 | cesurasean | no such file or directory |
| 02:42.46 | abrotman | wonders if something else that the shells depend on is missing |
| 02:42.53 | abrotman | do you have busybox in your chroot? |
| 02:43.09 | cesurasean | all i did was debootstrap squeeze /home/chroot |
| 02:43.14 | cesurasean | and it worked until a reboot few times |
| 02:43.17 | Alestan | hm, so /bin/bash exists, /bin/sh doesn't |
| 02:43.22 | cesurasean | sure it does |
| 02:43.29 | Alestan | oh, right, |
| 02:43.32 | cesurasean | when i ran /home/chroot/bin/sh |
| 02:43.33 | cesurasean | it's there. |
| 02:43.35 | cesurasean | $ |
| 02:43.45 | cesurasean | it just thinks it's not there. |
| 02:43.45 | Alestan | no such file or directory was the same error as bash gave you. |
| 02:43.46 | cesurasean | same with bash |
| 02:43.58 | cesurasean | yep |
| 02:44.16 | cesurasean | I'm shocked no one else has experienced this. |
| 02:44.20 | cesurasean | I even linked lib64 to lib |
| 02:44.45 | Alestan | I've had problems like it before, usually when something went wrong setting up the chroot. |
| 02:44.56 | cesurasean | like i said |
| 02:45.04 | cesurasean | i would debootstrap squeeze /home, then reboot |
| 02:45.10 | cesurasean | and same shit happens |
| 02:45.17 | cesurasean | when i did /home/chroot, reboot few times |
| 02:45.19 | cesurasean | it finally broke same way |
| 02:45.21 | Alestan | and it worked before. |
| 02:45.25 | cesurasean | yep |
| 02:45.40 | cesurasean | i even exit the chroot. |
| 02:46.17 | Alestan | I've not played with environments set up by debootstrap, so I'm afraid I don't really have much else to suggest. |
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| 02:52.27 | cesurasean | Alestan, i think the problem is this; /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 |
| 02:52.32 | cesurasean | doesn't seem to know where it is, i think. |
| 02:52.44 | cesurasean | how do i properly link lib to lib64? |
| 02:53.34 | user1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:53.39 | cesurasean | i don't see that file either. |
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| 02:54.00 | abrotman | cesurasean: with ln |
| 02:54.08 | cesurasean | yeh it's not there. |
| 02:54.21 | cesurasean | when i do sudo ld chroot /home/chroot |
| 02:54.36 | cesurasean | it shows me all the linked libraries, and that's one that doesn't looked linked. |
| 02:54.46 | cesurasean | same as what happened to this guy; http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/08/msg02024.html |
| 02:55.05 | cesurasean | yep |
| 02:55.11 | cesurasean | doesn't look like that file even exists |
| 02:57.42 | k-man | everytime i install a package I get this error: Error: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed: Failed to execute program /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper: Success |
| 02:57.48 | k-man | any ideas? |
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| 03:00.39 | cesurasean | yeh when i copied /lib/, i was able to get back in. |
| 03:00.48 | cesurasean | but, now it says no name on the prompt hostname lol |
| 03:01.01 | cesurasean | I have no name!@server:/# |
| 03:01.04 | cesurasean | lol. |
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| 03:10.49 | Mr_Queue | what did we default to for a DE in wheezy? |
| 03:11.01 | Mr_Queue | xfce? |
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| 03:13.19 | dvs | yup |
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| 03:14.10 | Mr_Queue | I've not seen a new wheezy install.. How did they do? Pretty standard? |
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| 03:14.58 | sney | dvs, no, it went back to gnome3 |
| 03:15.16 | Mr_Queue | meh. |
| 03:15.27 | Mr_Queue | I very much dislike gnome 3. |
| 03:15.35 | sney | you can still change the desktop environment pre-install |
| 03:15.41 | Mr_Queue | I was thinking about upgrading a laptop. |
| 03:16.05 | Mr_Queue | I've been with squeeze since it went stable. |
| 03:16.19 | sney | from the network installer it's advanced options -> alternative desktop environments. gnome, kde, xfce and lxde are the available options, iirc |
| 03:16.22 | Mr_Queue | I might just stick with it until it EOL's. |
| 03:17.06 | edju | Optical drive died. Boot takes too long . . SRST failed . . . or something. How might I prevent the system from attempting to discover the drive? |
| 03:17.08 | sney | yeah, squeeze is still supported and there are backports of certain packages if you needed something upgraded, like iceweasel for instance |
| 03:17.13 | sney | edju, unplug it |
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| 03:17.35 | Arrowmaster | Mr_Queue: why would the default DE make you want to put off upgrading? |
| 03:18.05 | dvs | sney: What? Gnome 3? That's crazy! |
| 03:18.14 | sney | the wheezy release will be a while yet anyway. still working out the multiarch kinks. |
| 03:18.27 | sney | dvs, the only reason it went to xfce in the first place was size, and they fixed htat |
| 03:18.30 | Mr_Queue | Arrowmaster: It wouldn't at all. I was just curious.. |
| 03:18.33 | edju | sney, Yeah - well - I was hoping for some software way. |
| 03:19.43 | Mr_Queue | Arrowmaster: I'd simply be stepping up to wheezy from an old squeeze install. |
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| 03:20.55 | Mr_Queue | To me it's just one of those things like.... Well I wonder what they're currently doing.. |
| 03:21.28 | sney | most of the major changes are either gui stuff or multiarch |
| 03:22.48 | Mr_Queue | I've half ass been following wheezy on my Pi, but it's realy just sitting there and running. Lost time to follow the mailing list closely.. |
| 03:24.10 | sney | and besides, the pi can't do much that would be distinctive between squeeze and wheezy |
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| 03:24.25 | Mr_Queue | yeah |
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| 03:24.59 | Mr_Queue | It's headless currently basically running the binary from no-ip and thats about it. |
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| 03:25.21 | sney | mine is usually my irc bouncer. it's offline right now because the sd card went bad |
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| 03:25.35 | Mr_Queue | heh. sucks.. |
| 03:26.09 | sney | just teaching me lessons about having the sc card image backed up with my preferred configuration |
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| 03:26.37 | Mr_Queue | what kind of card did you kill? |
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| 03:28.01 | Mr_Queue | heavy writes or anything special? |
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| 03:28.36 | sney | it is a panasonic class 10 4GB |
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| 03:28.56 | sney | didn't do anything special, probably a minor defect |
| 03:29.25 | sney | haven't checked to see if I can wipe and reuse it but I suspect not |
| 03:29.49 | abrotman | probably not worth it eh? |
| 03:30.03 | Mr_Queue | ^ for like $5 nope. |
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| 03:30.51 | sney | yeah probably not worth it except in hassle dollars, of going out of my way to the computer store |
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| 03:32.34 | abrotman | internets deliver! |
| 03:33.11 | sney | shipping |
| 03:33.58 | Mr_Queue | abrotman: well put. |
| 03:35.49 | cesurasean | how do i fix this; I have no name!@server:/# ? |
| 03:35.56 | cesurasean | aying i have no name |
| 03:36.18 | dvs | looks for the horse |
| 03:36.31 | abrotman | hands dvs the desert of maine |
| 03:36.40 | Mr_Queue | lol |
| 03:36.47 | Mr_Queue | my horse is amazing |
| 03:36.52 | un214 | cesuraesean: man hostname |
| 03:37.06 | sney | cesurasean, do you mean your shell prompt? that's the PS1 variable |
| 03:38.01 | cesurasean | ehh |
| 03:38.05 | cesurasean | how do i fix it? |
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| 03:38.58 | abrotman | thinks the whole chroot is busted |
| 03:39.04 | cesurasean | i have a hostname, so im not sure what it is complaining about. |
| 03:39.34 | cesurasean | well, if it's busted then it never did work to begin with and debootstrap is broken. |
| 03:40.21 | un214 | oh are you in a chroot jail? |
| 03:40.36 | cesurasean | yes. |
| 03:40.43 | Mr_Queue | that's why |
| 03:40.44 | un214 | /proc is not mounted |
| 03:40.52 | Mr_Queue | can't be |
| 03:41.03 | un214 | # mount --bind /proc /path/to/jail/proc |
| 03:41.05 | cesurasean | I can get into the chroot, and run apt-get just fine. |
| 03:41.26 | Mr_Queue | that's a binary |
| 03:41.32 | Mr_Queue | well |
| 03:41.39 | un214 | wonders how Mr_Queue thinks /dev works in the jail |
| 03:41.49 | abrotman | for pennies a day |
| 03:41.55 | Mr_Queue | lol |
| 03:42.27 | cesurasean | un214, same problem. |
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| 03:42.42 | un214 | you'd have to re-enter the jail |
| 03:42.48 | un214 | it only reads the hostname once |
| 03:43.13 | ir00t | what do you do if debian can't load because you did apt-get autoremove and that apparently deleted something necessary to start the OS? |
| 03:43.14 | cesurasean | i did. |
| 03:43.18 | cesurasean | i exit, and re entered it. |
| 03:43.21 | cesurasean | same issue with no name. |
| 03:43.36 | cesurasean | ir00t, use live cd, and reinstall it. |
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| 03:44.08 | cesurasean | oh |
| 03:44.15 | cesurasean | my /etc/passwd file is F****ed |
| 03:44.17 | ir00t | cesurasean: will that lose all my files and settings? |
| 03:44.33 | cesurasean | ir00t, depends on what you are reinstalling. |
| 03:44.36 | Mr_Queue | lol |
| 03:44.51 | Mr_Queue | what'd you do? lol |
| 03:44.53 | un214 | ir00t: boot from a rescue cd and apt-get install whatever it is |
| 03:45.10 | cesurasean | ir00t, or revert to backups. |
| 03:45.17 | un214 | Mr_Queue: he probably removed something that was the only manual thing causing something like init to be kept |
| 03:45.27 | ir00t | un214: yes |
| 03:45.36 | ir00t | un214: i think that is about correct |
| 03:46.05 | un214 | pretty good chance that apt-get install debian-base will fix it |
| 03:46.24 | cesurasean | yeh start with installing base |
| 03:46.45 | un214 | if not, it's probably either kernel or grub that's missing |
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| 04:11.38 | nmschulte | Is anyone using Google Chrome with fglrx? |
| 04:12.58 | sney | nmschulte, why don't you describe the problem you're experiencing instead of waiting for someone else with the exact same configuration as you to answer |
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| 04:14.17 | nmschulte | Using Google Chrome to watch HTML5 videos on YouTube, along with fglrx 9.1.11 (9.01.11?? 12.11 beta 11? I can't figure out how to coincide these numbers), whenever I switch the video to full screen, I get a blank vibrant blue screen. The video seems to play; there is audio, and the keyboard shortcuts work. |
| 04:14.24 | cesurasean | this is really pissing me off. everything breaks when i reboot. i do this; sudo cp -R /bin/ /home/chroot/ , sudo chroot /home/chroot works fine, then i reboot, and it messes up again???!!! |
| 04:14.43 | cesurasean | how the hell are the chroot files changing themselves and their permissions??! |
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| 04:20.25 | cesurasean | hello |
| 04:20.30 | cesurasean | anyone here? |
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| 04:20.44 | Tejp | Somewhat. |
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| 04:21.36 | sney | cesurasean, is your /home on a different volume, and is there anything odd in how it's mounted? |
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| 04:24.56 | cesurasean | well, sney, when i first did it in /home, reboot, it would fuck up. when i did to /home/chroot, it rebooted a few times and worked |
| 04:25.02 | cesurasean | then same problem as /home |
| 04:25.08 | cesurasean | im able to fix it, but when i reboot it messes up |
| 04:25.12 | sney | that has nothing to do with what I just asked you |
| 04:25.16 | cesurasean | im using aws AMI for debian |
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| 04:25.30 | cesurasean | so however that image is configured |
| 04:25.34 | sney | aws.. that's the amazon thing, right? |
| 04:25.40 | cesurasean | yes. |
| 04:25.49 | sney | it's probably due to something weird they did. |
| 04:25.58 | cesurasean | how do i check? |
| 04:25.59 | cesurasean | etc/fstab? |
| 04:26.04 | sney | maybe everything is mounted noexec to prevent people from running chroots all the time |
| 04:26.14 | cesurasean | oh. |
| 04:26.16 | sney | though that wouldn't explain how you're able to get around it |
| 04:26.21 | cesurasean | well, |
| 04:26.25 | sney | the command 'mount' should show you clearly enough |
| 04:26.25 | cesurasean | when i go back it has 0 root |
| 04:26.26 | cesurasean | as owner |
| 04:26.34 | cesurasean | i fix it to root root |
| 04:26.35 | cesurasean | reboot, it changes back |
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| 04:27.01 | cesurasean | noexec is on proc |
| 04:27.10 | sney | that's normal. |
| 04:27.22 | cesurasean | /dev/xvda1 on / type ext4 (rw,barrier=0) |
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| 04:27.34 | sney | and no separate volume for /home ? |
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| 04:28.03 | cesurasean | no |
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| 04:28.12 | sney | ok, it shouldn't be doing that, so it's amazon's fault |
| 04:28.30 | cesurasean | lol |
| 04:29.04 | cesurasean | what do you mean amazon's fault. |
| 04:29.04 | cesurasean | they don't maintain debian |
| 04:29.04 | cesurasean | someone here or someone does |
| 04:29.20 | cesurasean | im able to fix this when i copy /lib/ to /home/chroot/ |
| 04:29.28 | cesurasean | lol |
| 04:30.00 | cesurasean | why does rebooting change it back, and how? |
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| 04:31.10 | nexus6__ | hi, i just tried to su into a user and got following code http://privatepaste.com/f9ece78555 what is this? |
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| 04:31.39 | sney | cesurasean, amazon's machine images are not created by "someone here"; they are a special amazon thing and they are almost certainly modified. |
| 04:31.41 | KsM | the shell is messed up |
| 04:32.07 | sney | nexus6__, that user might be using a different shell that doesn't understand the PS1 variable it was given |
| 04:32.08 | un214 | nexus6__: that's something trying to render escape codes that doesn't understand them |
| 04:32.56 | cesurasean | how do i fix it? |
| 04:32.57 | sney | cesurasean, it looks like you can email the person who made the image. I recommend doing that. |
| 04:33.05 | cesurasean | i have to copy lib every time i want to get into the chroot? |
| 04:33.18 | cesurasean | and how come it works every so reboots? |
| 04:33.20 | KsM | quick fix would be to do PS1='\u@\h:\w$ ' |
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| 04:33.56 | cesurasean | KsM, what does that do? |
| 04:33.58 | sney | cesurasean, I run several chroots for test purposes and have never had to do what you say. contact the person who made the image. |
| 04:33.58 | nexus6__ | sney, un214 how can i fix this? |
| 04:34.06 | sney | nexus6__, see what KsM just said |
| 04:34.23 | cesurasean | sney, can't i just see what they did wrong/ |
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| 04:34.28 | cesurasean | if anything? |
| 04:34.29 | un214 | PS1='$ ' |
| 04:34.48 | KsM | nexus6__: it sets your promt to a more generic one, without colours, but still having the user@host:/path/$ |
| 04:34.49 | cesurasean | how does it know to revert back the settings? |
| 04:34.52 | KsM | prompt* |
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| 04:35.44 | sney | cesurasean, it is probably something to do with how the user accounts are set up. but without knowing what changes were made, I can't give you any idea where to start looking |
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| 04:36.42 | cesurasean | i don't understand how when i copy /etc/ and /lib/, it works, reboot, those dirs are changed |
| 04:36.51 | sney | are you going to keep saying that over and over? |
| 04:36.58 | sney | or maybe email someone who knows the answer |
| 04:37.01 | cesurasean | yes. |
| 04:37.26 | cesurasean | should i stick it outside of /home/ |
| 04:37.29 | cesurasean | maybe home is the problem? |
| 04:37.32 | un214 | you could try setting the immutable flag |
| 04:37.42 | cesurasean | because, when i debootstrap to home, it breaks upon reboot immediate |
| 04:37.48 | Infiltrator | cesurasean: How did you install your Debian system? |
| 04:37.51 | nexus6__ | KsM, now i get "\u@\h:\w$" as feedback when i try su |
| 04:37.52 | cesurasean | when i did /home/chroot it didnt so much |
| 04:37.52 | cesurasean | lol |
| 04:37.59 | cesurasean | debootstrap squeeze /home/chroot |
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| 04:38.17 | KsM | nexus6__: uh, are you using some weird shell? |
| 04:38.24 | cesurasean | no |
| 04:38.28 | cesurasean | just putty |
| 04:38.43 | nexus6__ | nexus6__, i use putty and the image is "root@Debian-60-squeeze-64-minimal" |
| 04:38.50 | KsM | that's a ssh client, but you can use PS1='$ ' I guess |
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| 04:39.24 | KsM | Usually dash/bash/zsh/others would expand the \u, \h, etc |
| 04:39.43 | cesurasean | someone contact the amazon guy and get this fixed |
| 04:39.45 | cesurasean | lol |
| 04:39.49 | cesurasean | who is he |
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| 04:49.32 | cesurasean | who keeps hacking my server everytime i reboot to mess up my chroot?! |
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| 04:49.42 | cesurasean | kidding. |
| 04:49.56 | cesurasean | im going to try outside of /home/ |
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| 04:58.37 | BONG_IT | how can i install driver of buil;t in lancard of this mobo http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8H61M_LX3_PLUS/ |
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| 05:00.30 | sney | BONG_IT, you already have it. |
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| 05:02.16 | BONG_IT | i forgot |
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| 05:06.31 | BONG_IT | how to know the number of eth in debian i inserted pci lan card |
| 05:07.23 | Rusty1 | BONG_IT: in terminal, type: ifconfig ? |
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| 05:09.00 | BONG_IT | where i can found the persistent rules |
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| 05:10.43 | Rusty1 | /etc/networking/interfaces maybe |
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| 05:15.21 | LtL | BONG_IT: /etc/udev/rules.d/ |
| 05:20.51 | BONG_IT | tnx |
| 05:21.03 | BONG_IT | still having problem with my old debian 5.3 |
| 05:21.25 | BONG_IT | i know its eol but id tried to upgrade 6.6 |
| 05:21.51 | BONG_IT | some of the modules in 6.6 cant load videos of my web server |
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| 05:23.25 | sney | oh, not you again. |
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| 05:27.02 | pmo | Do any of you know if using mutt puts email in /var/spool/mail ? or can? |
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| 05:28.24 | sney | BONG_IT, you need to describe your actual problem clearly if you want anyone to help you. |
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| 05:29.56 | Infiltrator | pmo: It doesn't by default; but you could set it up to, yes. |
| 05:30.06 | Infiltrator | pmo: Search for mutt guides and/or ask in #mutt. |
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| 05:37.53 | pmo | thanks Infiltrator :) |
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| 05:50.36 | Infiltrator | How do I perform aptitude operations on packages using a wildcard? Like say aptitude reinstall vim*? |
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| 06:05.13 | BONG_IT | is there any driver for RTL8111F lan card |
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| 06:10.26 | rwp | Infiltrator, Use a command line such as: aptitude reinstall $(dpkg -l | awk '$2~/^vim*/{print$2}') |
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| 06:14.07 | cesurasean | guys. /chroot/ worked fine for awhile. installed php5, everything, rebooted, fine, then got mysql to chroot to that dir, rebooted, and now it's saying can't find bash |
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| 06:17.43 | rwp | cesurasean, What is saying what? Can you chroot in there and run bash? If not that should produce a good error message clue for you. |
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| 06:19.40 | cesurasean | nope |
| 06:19.49 | cesurasean | files are overwritten when i reboot for some reason. |
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| 06:22.49 | rwp | cesurasean, Nothing on the computer ever "just happens". Anything that happens is always because something does it. |
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| 06:25.59 | grothendieck | the magic box tricked me, it does things for no reason! |
| 06:27.21 | grothendieck | cesurasean: I imagine there was something you exported by hand in the chroot that was not preserved after a reboot |
| 06:27.43 | grothendieck | retrace your steps, and if you find yourself doing anything to setup your chroot that won't persist after a reboot - put it in your .bashrc or something |
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| 06:28.06 | grothendieck | hell, won't persist beyond logging out or spawning a new shell |
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| 06:31.59 | ehlu | ctrl + a : source ~/.screenrc :) |
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| 06:34.55 | grothendieck | ^ |
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| 07:21.05 | BONG_IT | how to install tar i have an error |
| 07:22.25 | ry|an | doesn't debian come with tar? |
| 07:23.06 | BONG_IT | is it required to install build-essential |
| 07:24.20 | BONG_IT | heres is the error http://paste.debian.net/223048/ |
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| 07:26.45 | rwp | BONG_IT, That error is clear. No such file or directory. You have tar installed. Tar is telling you that you gave it a non-existent file. |
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| 07:29.38 | BONG_IT | i have the file in my desktop |
| 07:29.41 | BONG_IT | how can i access that |
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| 07:31.05 | zjhxmjl | hi,everyone |
| 07:31.42 | zjhxmjl | i want to recover root password under debian with single user mode |
| 07:31.59 | rwp | BONG_IT, cd to the directory holding the file. List the directory with ls to prove that the file is there before trying to untar it. |
| 07:32.07 | zjhxmjl | but it still need passwd in single user mode |
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| 07:32.19 | zjhxmjl | some can give me some advance |
| 07:32.22 | BONG_IT | ok |
| 07:32.41 | zjhxmjl | Any advices/help/etc... are welcome |
| 07:32.53 | rwp | zjhxmjl, Do you have a debian install disk handy? Use it in rescue mode is easiest. |
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| 07:33.12 | zjhxmjl | rwp: in rescue mode? |
| 07:33.21 | zjhxmjl | i need passwd too |
| 07:33.22 | rwp | Or you can boot with init=/bin/bash and then mount all of the disks. Works but more complicated. |
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| 07:33.32 | rwp | Yes, rescue mode. |
| 07:33.44 | zjhxmjl | but i need passwd too |
| 07:34.06 | rwp | No password needed for rescue mode. See this docs. http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s07.html.en |
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| 07:36.06 | BONG_IT | should i install build essentials |
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| 07:37.16 | rwp | BONG_IT, That won't help. You have tar installed. You need to be in the directory with the file you want to untar. Use 'cd' to change directory there first. |
| 07:37.20 | Aleksander | Hello - is there some repository from which I can install kernel 3.5+ on Sid, or do I have to compile it manually? |
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| 07:37.58 | rwp | Aleksander, That kernel is in the experimental archive. Add experimental and install it from there. |
| 07:38.30 | Aleksander | rwp, thank you :) |
| 07:38.38 | zjhxmjl | rwp:thanks |
| 07:38.40 | rwp | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianExperimental |
| 07:38.49 | zjhxmjl | but i find this info |
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| 07:39.11 | KsM | wom 25 |
| 07:39.16 | KsM | wow I cannot type |
| 07:39.16 | zjhxmjl | give root passwd for maintenance |
| 07:39.29 | rwp | Yes, that is single user mode. |
| 07:39.46 | zjhxmjl | or type ctrl -d to continue |
| 07:39.47 | rwp | You never answered my question. Do you have a Debian install disk available to you? |
| 07:40.25 | zjhxmjl | i had installed debian in virtualbox |
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| 07:40.59 | rwp | BONG_IT, Try this command: cd Desktop |
| 07:41.23 | rwp | BONG_IT, Then list the contents of the directory: ls |
| 07:41.48 | rwp | BONG_IT, Or: ls -l r8168-8.035.00.tar.bz2 |
| 07:41.57 | BONG_IT | ok |
| 07:42.11 | rwp | If that file exists then untar it there. If that fails then you are in the wrong directory or have misspelled the filename. |
| 07:42.49 | rwp | zjhxmjl, Oh! VB. Okay. How did you install it there? But could you mount the VM image as a filesystem? |
| 07:43.17 | rwp | I am not familiar with VB but am quite familiar with KVM/QEMU and do mount those filesystems. |
| 07:43.45 | zjhxmjl | rwp:yes |
| 07:44.15 | rwp | If you can mount the image as a filesystem then you can edit the /etc/shadow file in the image and delete the password. |
| 07:45.06 | zjhxmjl | rwp:sorry,i'm newbie for debian,can you give me some guide? |
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| 07:47.26 | rwp | zjhxmjl, It is easy to do but the details are important. Look at this reference for help. Seems okay to me. http://www.debianadmin.com/how-to-reset-debian-root-password.html |
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| 07:48.45 | rwp | Summary: Boot with init=/bin/bash. Then remount the filesystem read-write because it will be read-only at boot time otherwise. Then use 'passwd' to set a new password for root. |
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| 07:49.08 | rwp | Should work for you okay. |
| 07:49.41 | zjhxmjl | rwp:Done. Works like a charm. Thanks :) |
| 07:51.05 | rwp | zjhxmjl, Yay! |
| 07:51.24 | troybi | how extract rar files in debian? |
| 07:52.04 | rwp | troybi, There are two unrar programs available. unrar-free and unrar (nonfree) |
| 07:52.24 | troybi | i must apt-get install unrar-free ? |
| 07:52.28 | rwp | yes. |
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| 07:53.11 | troybi | rwp: thanks |
| 07:54.37 | rwp | troybi, FYI but apt-cache search is a good friend here. apt-cache search unrar |
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| 07:56.56 | BONG_IT | rwp |
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| 07:57.49 | rwp | Yes? |
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| 08:01.10 | troybi | is there something like visual studio in debian? i mean a good editor? |
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| 08:05.51 | ksuhku | troybi, emacs |
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| 08:06.18 | musca | !editor |
| 08:06.19 | dpkg | An editor something used to edit (create, modify, remove stuff from) files. There are both text editors and binary editors. <vi> and <emacs> (or flavors of same) are the standard *nix editors, though beginners may find <nano>, <gedit>, <nedit>, etc more useful. The main difference between an editor and a word processor is that editors _just_ do plain text. To change the default editor, execute: 'update-alternatives --config editor'. |
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| 08:07.36 | troybi | !hi |
| 08:07.37 | dpkg | hello, troybi |
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| 08:07.52 | ChrisH | troybi: Is "visual studio" some integrated development environent from Microsoft? |
| 08:07.55 | troybi | hah i like this bot :) |
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| 08:09.03 | troybi | ksuhku: thanks.is it hard to work with emac? |
| 08:09.27 | ksuhku | troybi, at first it might be |
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| 08:10.40 | troybi | ksuhku: i have a c program i want to change it to assembly...is emacs enable to do that? |
| 08:11.03 | ChrisH | troybi: No. You must do that :) |
| 08:11.09 | BONG_IT | how can i install this tar http://paste.debian.net/223048/ |
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| 08:12.18 | ChrisH | BONG_IT: does tar tvjf r8168-8.035.00.tar.bz2 work? if not please pastbin ls -l r8168-8.035.00.tar.bz2 ; file r8168-8.035.00.tar.bz2 |
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| 08:12.52 | BONG_IT | the total 0 |
| 08:12.54 | BONG_IT | appears |
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| 08:13.16 | musca | BONG_IT: well, there is a driver named r8169 that may support your device |
| 08:13.25 | musca | !r8169 |
| 08:13.25 | dpkg | r8169 is a driver in the mainline Linux kernel supporting the Realtek RTL8169, RTL8168 and RTL8101 families of gigabit Ethernet chips. See also <rtl8168d>, <rtl8105e>. |
| 08:13.38 | ChrisH | BONG_IT: then the file is broken. |
| 08:13.43 | BONG_IT | aw |
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| 08:14.47 | BONG_IT | i downloaded the file correctly |
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| 08:18.22 | BONG_IT | i already paste the file to desktop |
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| 08:18.33 | BONG_IT | im also in directory of desktop |
| 08:19.30 | ChrisH | BONG_IT: Then please do what I asked for and pastebin the following commands output: ls -ld r8168-8.035.00.tar.bz2 r8168* ; file r8168-8.035.00.tar.bz2 |
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| 08:19.47 | hell_razer | is any tool to prevent ctlr+shift+v to gui terminal if clipboard contents "\n" |
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| 08:20.39 | BONG_IT | ok |
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| 08:22.50 | luis__ | hello |
| 08:23.11 | luis__ | trying to set up a pxe boot |
| 08:23.21 | BONG_IT | here http://paste.debian.net/223055/ |
| 08:24.11 | luis__ | need google isn't helping much |
| 08:24.16 | luis__ | need help |
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| 08:25.12 | ChrisH | BONG_IT: WHERE is that file? Not in the directory you did execute the ls command. |
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| 08:25.19 | musca | !tell luis__ about pxe |
| 08:25.52 | luis__ | musca: thanks, I need the help |
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| 08:26.04 | luis__ | I've been at it all day |
| 08:26.07 | blackshirt | what is the best way to reconfigure xserver problem? |
| 08:26.17 | BONG_IT | the file is in the desktop itself |
| 08:26.26 | nmschulte | I'm trying to compile intel-gpu-tools from source; autoconf is complaining that I need xorg-macros 1.16 or later; where can I find those macros in Debian? |
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| 08:27.08 | ChrisH | BONG_IT: go to your HOME; cd Desktop and check using ls again |
| 08:27.41 | blackshirt | what is the best way to reconfigure xserver problem? |
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| 08:28.13 | BONG_IT | here is the ls |
| 08:28.14 | BONG_IT | http://paste.debian.net/223057/ |
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| 08:29.17 | BONG_IT | im now in home |
| 08:29.30 | BONG_IT | no such directory upon cd Desktop |
| 08:29.30 | luis__ | blackshirt: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 08:30.15 | ChrisH | BONG_IT: OK. Lets try a different thing. find / -name r8168-8.035.00.tar.bz2 |
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| 08:31.33 | BONG_IT | its ok right now |
| 08:31.42 | nmschulte | aha, found it; xorg-macros are part of xutils-dev package |
| 08:31.46 | BONG_IT | i use tar r8168-8.035.00.tar.bz2 |
| 08:31.54 | BONG_IT | how can i install? |
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| 08:33.16 | luis__ | any suggesting where I can find resources to set up pxe boot on debian |
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| 08:34.15 | BONG_IT | theres an error |
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| 08:35.24 | BONG_IT | here ChrisH http://paste.debian.net/223060/ |
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| 08:37.18 | ChrisH | BONG_IT: Using google I found: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential |
| 08:37.37 | BONG_IT | i use that first? |
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| 08:37.45 | zjhxmjl | hi,when i run "lsb_release -r" |
| 08:37.52 | zjhxmjl | it show "Release:6.2 |
| 08:37.52 | zjhxmjl | " |
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| 08:38.32 | zjhxmjl | but how can i get the "6" |
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| 08:40.31 | EmleyMoor | zjhxmjl: What exactly do you want and why? |
| 08:40.45 | zjhxmjl | yes |
| 08:41.03 | zjhxmjl | i want to get the '6' |
| 08:41.04 | EmleyMoor | You want "yes"? |
| 08:41.13 | EmleyMoor | What "6"? |
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| 08:41.33 | zjhxmjl | how to use awk |
| 08:41.36 | BONG_IT | i already use the command the error is here http://paste.debian.net/223062/ |
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| 08:41.43 | zjhxmjl | "six" |
| 08:41.48 | zjhxmjl | version |
| 08:41.52 | BONG_IT | ChrisH i already use the command the error is here http://paste.debian.net/223062/ |
| 08:42.12 | EmleyMoor | Do you mean you want to extract the number "6" from that output? |
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| 08:47.42 | ChrisH | BONG_IT: you did not what I wrote... You used uname-r and I wrote: uname -r |
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| 08:53.20 | BONG_IT | ok2 il try again |
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| 08:55.09 | monadicity | does debian have r project? |
| 08:55.25 | monadicity | this http://www.r-project.org/ |
| 08:56.33 | BONG_IT | when i use dmesg | grep eth i have RTL8169 is this what my driver |
| 08:57.22 | musca | !tell monadicity about R |
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| 09:00.22 | BONG_IT | ChrisH im removing my hard to other unit because ryt now the one i have the problem is that mobo dont have internet |
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| 09:02.33 | BONG_IT | im confusing right now |
| 09:02.56 | BONG_IT | did i get the correct driver for my lan card |
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| 09:03.23 | monadicity | musca, thank you |
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| 09:06.00 | musca | BONG_IT: why don't you share your 'dmesg|grep eth' with http://paste.debian.net ? |
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| 09:10.54 | BONG_IT | ok w8 |
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| 09:13.19 | BONG_IT | e2 po http://paste.debian.net/223063/ |
| 09:13.22 | BONG_IT | here http://paste.debian.net/223063/ |
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| 09:16.02 | BONG_IT | musca here http://paste.debian.net/223063/ |
| 09:16.28 | musca | yes, there is at least eth0 and eth2 |
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| 09:19.06 | ChrisH | BONG_IT: I do not know what you want to to, nor why. Not even what does work or not work. You might need to tell us more |
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| 09:20.14 | BONG_IT | the built in ethernet card cant browse to internet |
| 09:20.41 | BONG_IT | i just want to properly run the built in lancard |
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| 09:24.18 | ChrisH | BONG_IT: Please pastebin ifconfig -a |
| 09:24.18 | nkuttler | "link is not ready" is no cable plugged in, isn't it? |
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| 09:24.46 | ChrisH | thinks of 70_udev |
| 09:24.54 | BONG_IT | right now it already check root file system because i install it again in another pc unit |
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| 09:55.04 | nevyn | tharkun: read the bit at the end there's a grammar descripting which is pretty obvious |
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| 09:55.18 | nevyn | sigh. scrollback |
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| 10:43.23 | cobra-the-joker | Hey |
| 10:43.29 | HardDisk_WP | I have got a USB media with the filesystem of an armel-machine (NSLU2) here |
| 10:43.45 | HardDisk_WP | openssh didn't get installed at setup time, and I dont want to re-run the setup, took 6 hours |
| 10:43.55 | HardDisk_WP | can I, from my x86 machine, install the package? |
| 10:44.00 | gnarface | i have never hard of that filesystem |
| 10:44.01 | HardDisk_WP | chroot obviously doesn't work |
| 10:44.06 | gnarface | *heard |
| 10:44.07 | cobra-the-joker | me neither |
| 10:44.21 | HardDisk_WP | it's standard ext2, the problem is I can't do a chroot because the target system is armel |
| 10:44.41 | gnarface | oh |
| 10:44.47 | gnarface | you're having a flaoting point issue |
| 10:45.03 | gnarface | try chrooting from an armel system |
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| 10:45.05 | gnarface | problem solved |
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| 10:45.39 | HardDisk_WP | I dont have any arm* system here |
| 10:45.46 | HardDisk_WP | except that NSLU |
| 10:45.51 | gnarface | well |
| 10:46.00 | gnarface | jesus wept |
| 10:46.07 | HardDisk_WP | I'd need something like the debian-installer's in-target command |
| 10:46.09 | dsdeiz | should i keep header files after building something? or is it ok to delete 'em? |
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| 10:46.46 | gnarface | dsdeiz: you should keep them because you may need them to build something else and storage space is cheaper than bandwidth |
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| 10:47.27 | ry|an | gnarface how so? |
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| 10:47.49 | dsdeiz | ah good call |
| 10:47.59 | gnarface | ry|an: how so which? storage space cheaper than bandwidth? its... self-evident |
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| 10:48.42 | dsdeiz | oh if i remove it doesn't it keep itself in a cache directory? i remember something installing a deb file from the cache |
| 10:48.42 | ry|an | you can get a quality gigabit link for around $3000 a month |
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| 10:48.51 | ry|an | With that you can download 0.3285 petabytes |
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| 10:49.20 | ry|an | how much does a terabyte cost nowadays? |
| 10:49.32 | gnarface | ry|an: its like i told you "if a=b, and a=c, then b=c" and you said "how so?" ... well, i can only respond with... fuck it i dunno maybe you don't live in the same reality as me. irc is weird i think i once talked to my dead great-grandfather in here |
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| 10:50.21 | gnarface | ry|an: also, you can get a quality gigabit link for 1000$/month. you're being robbed |
| 10:50.40 | ry|an | gnarface what carrier? |
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| 10:50.51 | ry|an | Even cogent doesn't go that low |
| 10:50.55 | gnarface | ry|an: NONE OF THIS is a debian support question. what's the problem you're having, exactly? |
| 10:51.20 | ry|an | And cogent sucks |
| 10:51.25 | gnarface | ry|an: fucking cogent is a home service provider and they got absorbed by their parent corp in the 90's, twice |
| 10:51.45 | gnarface | ry|an: if you're looking for quality gigabit links, you're not going to get them from a fucking residential DSL supplier |
| 10:52.02 | kakashi_ | I actually did a apt-get dist-upgrade and now I cannot print anything |
| 10:52.08 | ry|an | Cogentco also sells the cheapest bw |
| 10:52.08 | gnarface | ry|an: what's your problem with *debian* ? |
| 10:52.16 | kakashi_ | well, actually I cannot print pdfs |
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| 10:52.26 | kakashi_ | I was able to print pdfs before |
| 10:52.36 | kakashi_ | I have all the relevant cups drivers |
| 10:52.41 | kakashi_ | and the ghostscript |
| 10:52.42 | gnarface | kakashi_: can you still print to a pdf file? |
| 10:52.48 | ry|an | I were merely discussing advice given by you gnarface |
| 10:52.50 | ry|an | which was false |
| 10:52.52 | gnarface | kakashi_: i mean, can you "print to file" and still get a pdf? |
| 10:53.05 | ry|an | Actually, I take that back. |
| 10:53.07 | gnarface | kakashi_: is the problem only with the printer, or with the app's printing capability? you see? |
| 10:53.08 | kakashi_ | let me check |
| 10:53.15 | kakashi_ | its a network printers |
| 10:53.20 | kakashi_ | printer* |
| 10:53.23 | kakashi_ | others can print |
| 10:53.33 | gnarface | hmm |
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| 10:53.43 | gnarface | kakashi_: does lpq say you got jobs stalled? |
| 10:53.46 | ry|an | But yeah, cogent doesn't even sell DSL |
| 10:54.14 | kakashi_ | gnarface: no! I mean I don't get the option to print |
| 10:54.18 | kakashi_ | the adobe reader |
| 10:54.24 | gnarface | ry|an: look, i'm old, you're a kid. also you clearly don't live anywhere metroplitan. you should check your history before you are so sure of yourself |
| 10:54.24 | kakashi_ | just doesnt do anything |
| 10:54.27 | kakashi_ | when I click print |
| 10:54.33 | kakashi_ | similarly for google-chrome |
| 10:54.42 | kakashi_ | if it is a pdf page |
| 10:54.43 | gnarface | hmmm |
| 10:54.59 | gnarface | kakashi_: what about iceweasel? can it print to file? |
| 10:55.00 | kakashi_ | it just doenst do anything when I press print/use ctrl p |
| 10:55.12 | kakashi_ | yes html to pdf works |
| 10:55.19 | gnarface | ok that's importnat |
| 10:55.22 | gnarface | now check lpq |
| 10:55.33 | gnarface | see if your local printing queue is jammed up |
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| 10:55.42 | gnarface | it happens, often especially with the wrong drivers |
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| 10:56.07 | ry|an | gnarface eh, history is hardly relevant now |
| 10:56.11 | gnarface | (printers aren't as smart about warning you that you got the wrong drivers as video cards are) |
| 10:56.29 | gnarface | kakashi_: ^^^ |
| 10:56.29 | kakashi_ | WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /home/user/.cache/keyring-k98KT9/pkcs11: No such file or directory |
| 10:56.34 | kakashi_ | it gives this warning |
| 10:56.38 | gnarface | that may or may not be related |
| 10:56.44 | kakashi_ | and says PDF is ready |
| 10:56.45 | kakashi_ | no entries |
| 10:56.48 | gnarface | gnome has its own shit that can get in the way of standard printing |
| 10:56.59 | gnarface | you could be running into a gnome keyring error |
| 10:57.05 | kakashi_ | hmmm |
| 10:57.10 | kakashi_ | should i remove gnome? |
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| 10:57.15 | ry|an | That warning is by no means related |
| 10:57.16 | gnarface | well you might be using it... |
| 10:57.18 | kakashi_ | I dont use gnome or gnome keyring |
| 10:57.24 | kakashi_ | I use awesome dm |
| 10:57.29 | ry|an | wm* |
| 10:57.30 | kakashi_ | and just the basic stuff |
| 10:57.32 | kakashi_ | wm* |
| 10:57.33 | gnarface | well then maybe it is NOT related as ry|an says |
| 10:57.47 | ry|an | gnome could be related, but the error most definitely is not |
| 10:57.56 | gnarface | kakashi_: but one thing is clear... you should look for errors. they exist somewhere. |
| 10:58.29 | gnarface | ry|an: i think you've grossly underestimated how much more than you i know |
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| 10:59.05 | gnarface | ry|an: someone like me would never have told you something like that and been wrong. |
| 10:59.23 | gnarface | ry|an: seriously. check your history. |
| 10:59.27 | ry|an | tbh you are a pretty pathetic troll |
| 10:59.34 | gnarface | ry|an: and i don't mean your irc history |
| 11:00.16 | ry|an | I actually wonder if you are actually autistic as fuck or just trying to troll |
| 11:01.01 | gnarface | :) i have a rare quality of perception |
| 11:01.17 | gnarface | i often rub people the wrong way when their entire life hinges on a fundamental logical error |
| 11:01.23 | ry|an | fabulous |
| 11:01.27 | ry|an | I like you |
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| 11:01.49 | gnarface | i'd say thanks if i believed you were not being facetious |
| 11:02.06 | ry|an | No, I really like you. |
| 11:02.19 | nmschulte | he _really really_ likes you. |
| 11:02.21 | nmschulte | Better look out. |
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| 11:02.39 | ry|an | Seeing how often people on freenode just stop talking when you point out their errors |
| 11:02.55 | ry|an | or try to come with some horrible way of proving me wrong |
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| 11:05.04 | gnarface | well everyone here is here to serve |
| 11:05.13 | gnarface | maybe you didnt' know but this is a debian support channel |
| 11:05.21 | gnarface | the only acceptable topic is the problem you're having with debian |
| 11:05.35 | gnarface | this does not count emotional problems that are actually self-contained |
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| 11:05.59 | ry|an | What if such emotional problems are caused by debian? |
| 11:06.04 | gnarface | like i said though; happy to help you with those as well but its 1) offtopic and 2) i'm not very popular at emotional support |
| 11:06.29 | gnarface | i recommend you hand around for a few days and watch other people come in with problems in debian |
| 11:06.36 | gnarface | that may gain you rare perspective a swell |
| 11:06.40 | gnarface | *as well* \ |
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| 11:07.16 | gnarface | (ignore the people who come in with Ubuntu problems) |
| 11:07.44 | ry|an | I had a small problem with debian while I were toying around on wiki.debian.org |
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| 11:07.58 | ry|an | There was no self explanatory way of getting root access without knowing the root password or being in sudoers |
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| 11:08.22 | ry|an | this should definitely be fixed, what if someone forgets their root password on a server with massive uptime? |
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| 11:09.00 | trist4n | doo hoo hoo |
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| 11:09.15 | trist4n | see this is why i set all of my passwords to `hunter2` and write it on my monitor. |
| 11:09.21 | gnarface | bwahaha |
| 11:09.37 | jelly | ry|an: /msg dpkg ifrp |
| 11:09.37 | ry|an | well I couldn't see the monitor connected to the wiki box so I couldn't tell |
| 11:10.03 | gnarface | ry|an: google "linux single"; the reason its not on the debian wiki is its the oldest fucking trick in the book. sometimes people forget to document the obvious stuff that nobody would forget. |
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| 11:10.22 | gnarface | hmm |
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| 11:10.33 | trist4n | that woudl conflict with `maintaining a massive uptime makes you kool dood`. |
| 11:10.34 | gnarface | actually doesn't know for sure if debian kernels removed linux single or not |
| 11:10.54 | ry|an | gnarface but without having root access I weren't able to reboot the server hosting debian wiki either |
| 11:10.59 | ry|an | felt pretty sad about that |
| 11:11.07 | gnarface | trist4n: well everyone has their priorities. rainbow tables are still an option |
| 11:11.15 | jelly | ry|an: please read the ifrp factoid. |
| 11:11.36 | ry|an | the bot decided not to respond to me |
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| 11:11.46 | buscon | I'm trying to install workbench on debian squeeze without result |
| 11:11.49 | gnarface | ry|an: well you'd also need physical access anyway. if you don't *also* have physical access to the building;; yea you're fucked. better start guessing passwords... |
| 11:11.51 | trist4n | how would you get the hash |
| 11:11.52 | trist4n | (≖‿≖ ) |
| 11:11.56 | buscon | anyone know a good way to do it? |
| 11:12.16 | jelly | !ifrp |
| 11:12.16 | dpkg | For GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt. |
| 11:12.17 | ry|an | jelly this requires some sort of physical access to the server |
| 11:12.22 | jelly | ry|an: indeed. |
| 11:12.30 | jelly | or at least to the console |
| 11:12.34 | ry|an | true |
| 11:12.50 | ry|an | Which I sadly did not have as the moinmoin exploit I used on debian wiki did not provide such |
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| 11:13.02 | trist4n | kool dood |
| 11:13.11 | gnarface | trist4n: good point but its there in the /etc/sudoers file... you just need to mount the volume from from another machine, or have read access to the /etc/shadow file (this is assuming its not in the /etc/passwd file which is globally readable by necessity) |
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| 11:13.26 | gnarface | trist4n: sorry /etc/shadow file i meant |
| 11:13.28 | jelly | !ops ry|an trolling about getting unauth access to debian.org servers |
| 11:13.28 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: jelly complains about: ry|an trolling about getting unauth access to debian.org servers |
| 11:13.36 | ry|an | jelly trolling? |
| 11:13.54 | jelly | I'm done talking to you, have a nice day. |
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| 11:14.15 | ry|an | http://puu.sh/1Lytd |
| 11:14.16 | ry|an | but hey |
| 11:14.19 | ry|an | what's this |
| 11:14.19 | ry|an | oh |
| 11:14.25 | ry|an | a moinmoin remote code execution poc |
| 11:15.08 | gnarface | ry|an: hey you want to try to take the moral high ground on me again? i enjoyed that while it lasted |
| 11:15.15 | gnarface | ry|an: it was funny |
| 11:15.20 | gnarface | ry|an: i like you too. :) |
| 11:15.27 | ry|an | hot |
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| 11:15.43 | ry|an | a/s/l? |
| 11:15.46 | ry|an | u cyber? |
| 11:16.40 | dsdeiz | this conversation is funny. fighting then liking, what's next? xD |
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| 11:17.10 | ry|an | I'm rather offended by jelly implying that I am a troll |
| 11:17.36 | trist4n | i think everyone is afraid you will use a poc exploit on them |
| 11:17.44 | trist4n | arent we. |
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| 11:18.49 | d3xter | hey guys |
| 11:18.58 | d3xter | is there any way to install 32bit version of a specific library? |
| 11:19.18 | jelly | d3xter: depends on the debian release you're using |
| 11:19.24 | d3xter | jelly: wheezy |
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| 11:19.53 | jelly | !tell d3xter about mutliarch howto |
| 11:20.01 | jelly | !tell d3xter about multiarch howto |
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| 11:21.31 | jelly | with i386 arch added to the mix, you ought to be able to install libfoo:i386 |
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| 11:21.56 | jelly | not all packages are fixed to work with multiarch yet, though |
| 11:22.33 | d3xter | jelly: ok thanks, i'll try it |
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| 11:23.39 | d3xter | jelly: damn, zlib1g isn't available ^^ |
| 11:24.23 | jelly | that's like the second most used library |
| 11:25.14 | jelly | if I have zlib1g:amd64 available on my i386 wheezy w/ multiarch, you ought to be able to install zlib1g:i386 on an amd64 multiarch |
| 11:25.34 | jelly | don't forget to do an update |
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| 11:27.32 | d3xter | jelly: how can i see what architectures of a package are available with apt? |
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| 11:31.03 | jelly | d3xter: I believe that's discussed on the wiki pag |
| 11:32.21 | d3xter | jelly: nope, just how to install/remove packages of different architectures |
| 11:32.24 | jelly | "Other available architectures are shown by dpkg --print-foreign-architectures." |
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| 11:36.49 | jelly | it could be better organized, I guess |
| 11:37.24 | d3xter | jelly: yeah. well thanks, it worked |
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| 11:45.42 | mikul | how can i make a folder where 2 different users can change each other files? both users have diffrent primary groups but are in the same secondary groups... for example kmv's primary group is ftpusers and mikul's primary group is mikul. how do i make it possible for both users to change files in the directory without locking the other user out? |
| 11:46.22 | mikul | hope it is understandable.. I myselfe is getting confused over this. |
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| 11:47.50 | gnarface | mikul: actually very clear to undersand though its rare to see the problem solved correctly in the "unix way" |
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| 11:48.32 | slystone | Hi! |
| 11:49.00 | gnarface | mikul: but basically you set the sguid bit on the parent directory (and make its group-ownership that secondary group they all share) and then make them all individually set their umasks to 0002 from the default of 0022 |
| 11:49.49 | gnarface | mikul: problem solved, but that's only ... you know.... if you have the political clout in your organization to tell individual users to edit their login scripts |
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| 11:50.09 | gnarface | mikul: if you don't... well. sorry you're fucked. no solution to stupid in-company politics. |
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| 11:51.10 | gnarface | no global way to enforce end-user umask setting in spite of login scripts |
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| 11:51.46 | gnarface | (not without fucking with kernel code that is) |
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| 11:56.16 | mikul | gnarface, hehe.. it sounds like I'm fucked then. Or maybe i can change the umask, but how do i change the individual umasks? |
| 11:57.53 | mikul | gnarface, i'v never done that before. |
| 11:57.59 | gnarface | mikul: well its easy if you have write access to all their individual home directories (the file you change it in, you have to change in every single user's home dir) |
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| 11:59.03 | gnarface | mikul: also the files in said home directories are always copied from /etc/skel when the user is created initially. if you have access to the system before any users are created, you can edit their default login scripts in /etc/skel and then many noobs wouldn['t even notice |
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| 12:00.22 | gnarface | mikul: (this is especially advised when inheriting a lot of formerly windows devs. they hate thinking about per-user config mods because windows doesn't contain per-user segregation of anything at all) |
| 12:00.48 | gnarface | or security.... |
| 12:00.58 | mikul | gnarface, aha.. yeah luckily the user in question is kinda new so i can recreate that user. |
| 12:01.08 | mikul | hehe true |
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| 12:01.33 | gnarface | mikul: then the only hard part is keeping rogue devs from changing their umask *back* |
| 12:01.42 | cardiel | im trying to boot and install debian from usb , but the usb stick wont boot properly , after the grub page the screen is just blank and nothing happends.. i wrote the iso with dd to the usb stick, shouldnt that work? |
| 12:02.15 | gnarface | mikul: i don't have a good technical solution for that.... the only solution i know of is just having cooperative, obedient devs... |
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| 12:04.10 | gnarface | cardiel: should work. if you saw grub load up it did work. something *else* failed after that. |
| 12:04.26 | mikul | gnarface, okey.. but this may be a soulution. luckily its not many users. |
| 12:04.49 | gnarface | cardiel: so here's the two important questions at this moment: 1) how old is this machine 2) what version of debian was it? am i to assume since it was a usb stick you used the stock stable squeeze image? |
| 12:05.58 | mikul | gnarface, thanks for the help btw =) |
| 12:06.09 | mikul | I will try it out after lunch |
| 12:06.22 | gnarface | mikul: i've managed personally dev teams of up to 20 with that method. it is angering to them at first often, if they're used to developing independently then having some other person merging code together... but that's expensive and wasteful, IMHO |
| 12:06.31 | gnarface | or maybe IMNSHO |
| 12:06.52 | gnarface | you save merging time entirely |
| 12:06.54 | gnarface | it disappears |
| 12:07.14 | gnarface | if you are managing more people than you can talk to in a single work day personally (150+) it probably will NOT work |
| 12:07.32 | gnarface | i've never been in that position though |
| 12:07.51 | gnarface | and i'm fairly sure most people who have, never were anyting other than a giant burden on the whole global economy |
| 12:07.54 | mikul | hehe.. no that sounds like hell :D |
| 12:08.21 | gnarface | its common in c#/.net windows environments |
| 12:08.26 | gnarface | but its sick and it is hell |
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| 12:09.29 | gnarface | but its a really helpful thing if all your devs are willing to at least *learn* unix filesystem permissions basics |
| 12:09.36 | gnarface | they don't have to be bright |
| 12:09.39 | gnarface | its not rocket science |
| 12:09.45 | mikul | true |
| 12:09.58 | gnarface | they just have to be cooperative enough to listen to the ONE guy on the team that knows how it works |
| 12:10.14 | mikul | hehe |
| 12:10.26 | gnarface | its a solve-once problem that most companies fail to budget for because they imagine it will take too many hours to train |
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| 12:11.02 | gnarface | but the fact of the matter is i've seen individuals waste tens of thousands of man hours doing shit wrong because they lacked 1 hour of basic unix user/group permissions theory |
| 12:11.03 | mikul | true that. |
| 12:11.15 | cardiel | gnarface: they machine is pretty new (asus k53e) , and ive tested both with 6.0.6 and testing isos |
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| 12:12.10 | gnarface | cardiel: so, when you get to the grub screen, hit the edit key ("e", i think?) and change your command line by deleting "quiet" and you may get more useful output than "blank screen failure" |
| 12:12.52 | gnarface | cardiel: this generally has only helped me on VERY OLD systems, but for reasons that theoretically could apply to new cpu models too |
| 12:13.12 | cardiel | gnarface: ok i will try that , thanks |
| 12:13.13 | cardiel | brb |
| 12:13.18 | gnarface | cardiel: wait |
| 12:13.30 | gnarface | dpkg: tell cardiel about kmuto |
| 12:13.57 | gnarface | cardiel: consider kmuto installer as a last resort |
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| 12:31.50 | HardDisk_WP | does packages.debian.org exist also for outdated versions like lenny? |
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| 12:32.13 | ksk | sure, there is lenny on packages.debian.org |
| 12:32.34 | ksk | hum, or not. sorry |
| 12:33.36 | antsygeek | is there someone who is familiar with preseed? i'm trying to do custom partitioning, but it won't work: http://pastie.org/5654212 |
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| 12:34.30 | antsygeek | please note the difference. in the last example, i configured a third partition |
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| 12:35.37 | Iridos | HardDisk_WP, there's http://snapshot.debian.org/ for old packages... it has some sort of searching, too... but it's not the same as packages.debian.org |
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| 12:36.01 | HardDisk_WP | archive.debian.net had what I needed |
| 12:36.13 | gnarface | same thing as snapshot right? |
| 12:36.16 | HardDisk_WP | I was just googling the wrong terms. |
| 12:36.23 | Iridos | no |
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| 12:36.47 | Iridos | snapshots kinda has all packages created ever |
| 12:36.53 | antsygeek | the error message is: "No root file system" |
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| 12:38.22 | gnarface | antsygeek: didn't look at your post, don't know how to preseed specifically (have read about it though) but ... usually that error means you forgot to load up your filesystem driver |
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| 12:39.01 | antsygeek | gnarface: that can't be the problem because the first example in my post works |
| 12:39.09 | Iridos | archives seems to have the releases... but it's a bit difficult to see in a browser, i.e. if you don't access it via apt (which I didn't), so I'm not 100% sure what it contains |
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| 12:41.41 | gnarface | antsygeek: uh... would you mind posting that again but to paste.debian.net instead? |
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| 12:44.24 | antsygeek | gnarface: sure: http://paste.debian.net/223101/ |
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| 12:47.15 | gnarface | antsygeek: well, can't help with it anyway. sorry. you tried doing them all as ext4 instead perhaps? |
| 12:47.23 | rohitkav__ | how to get language pack in debian - lxde |
| 12:47.44 | antsygeek | gnarface: yeah, doesn't work with ext4 as well |
| 12:48.41 | Iridos | antsygeek, can you boot into the machine with a rescue disc to find out what's wrong? |
| 12:49.15 | gnarface | antsygeek: anyone's guess is as good as mine at this point |
| 12:49.22 | antsygeek | Iridos: well, this is the content from a preseed file for automated install. |
| 12:49.35 | antsygeek | the machine isn't set up at that point |
| 12:49.51 | gnarface | hmm. so, filesystems supported on install |
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| 12:49.56 | gnarface | ext4 |
| 12:50.01 | gnarface | ext3 |
| 12:50.03 | gnarface | and.... |
| 12:50.06 | Iridos | oh, you get that during the install, not after installing the base system and the reboot that follows it? |
| 12:50.09 | gnarface | fucking nothing else really |
| 12:50.13 | gnarface | none of the others work for shit |
| 12:50.16 | gnarface | not in the installer |
| 12:50.21 | gnarface | youc an't use xfs from the installer |
| 12:50.23 | gnarface | its fucking borked |
| 12:50.28 | gnarface | reiserfs doens't even exist |
| 12:50.34 | gnarface | its a big motherfucking mess |
| 12:50.45 | Ristovski | Hello, I edited my sources.list and properties file and did dist-upgrade, now I get this error: "E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'openjdk-6-jre'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)" |
| 12:50.48 | antsygeek | well why does it work with one ext4 partition but not with two? |
| 12:50.49 | gnarface | just use ext4 on all of your partitions, then at least you know the issue is not the installer |
| 12:50.57 | Ristovski | I edited so I can get the testing branch |
| 12:51.17 | gnarface | antsygeek: ext4 works. something *else* is wrong you're just conflating the issues together (no fault of your own really) |
| 12:51.48 | antsygeek | gnarface: yes, one ext4 partiton works (see first example in my paste). it won't work with a second one |
| 12:51.53 | Ristovski | can I just do "apt-get -f dist-upgrade" ? |
| 12:51.57 | antsygeek | if ext3 or ext4 doesn't matter |
| 12:52.05 | gnarface | really angry about the non-ext4 support in squeeze installer; shameful really, even on microsoft standards |
| 12:53.55 | antsygeek | i can confirm now that it does not work with two ext3 partitions, too. |
| 12:54.01 | gnarface | antsygeek: tell me this; if you statically compile (non-modular) the ext2, ext3 AND ext4 drivers into that boot kernel, does the problem magically disappear? |
| 12:54.02 | antsygeek | it has nothing to do with ext4 |
| 12:54.30 | Ristovski | ok, doing apt-get -f dist-upgrade redownloads all 1066MB, I already have them installed, it just failed |
| 12:54.30 | gnarface | (a preeseeding pro could answer this without checking) |
| 12:54.36 | Ristovski | what can I do? |
| 12:54.39 | Sm0ke0ut | gnarface: err? squeeze supports ext4 (netinstaller does for sure) it's just not set by default |
| 12:54.52 | Ristovski | I mean downloaded, I have them downloaded* |
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| 12:55.03 | gnarface | Sm0ke0ut: i said *non* ext4 |
| 12:55.18 | antsygeek | as i said, it has nothing to do with ext4. it does not work with ext3 either. |
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| 12:55.31 | antsygeek | there must be an error in my preseed config |
| 12:55.34 | antsygeek | but i can't find it |
| 12:55.59 | antsygeek | can we please stop the discussion about filesystems - it is not related to that issue |
| 12:55.59 | gnarface | Sm0ke0ut: squeeze installer supports ext4 perfectly. i'm just saying its shameful how badly it supports the other available options AND its shameful reiserfs has been pulled for purely political reasons (unpopular somehow to have a *real* killerfs) |
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| 12:56.25 | Sm0ke0ut | ah ok :) |
| 12:56.47 | Iridos | Ristovski, guess you can either try to figure out why it cannot configure that one, remove the package now and install it and what depended on it after upgrade or see if it works without immediate configure |
| 12:56.52 | gnarface | antsygeek: as you say. unfortunately without loading your preeseeding config on to my cluster i can't very shit for you. i was just pointing out common tripups. if you're sure you checked them already, i'm sorry |
| 12:56.58 | Ristovski | ok, let me make it more clear: I edited my sources.list to get the testing branch, I did apt-get dist-upgrade but it failed on "E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'openjdk-6-jre'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)" |
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| 12:57.18 | Ristovski | what can I do? setting -f to apt REDOWNLOADS everything, which is alot |
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| 12:57.57 | gnarface | oh boy |
| 12:58.02 | babilen | dpkg: tell Ristovski about immediate configuration |
| 12:58.27 | babilen | Ristovski: Might be /very/ hard to fix though |
| 12:58.42 | gnarface | babilen: you don't mean squeeze->wheezy? |
| 12:58.50 | Iridos | I see you've been having fun |
| 12:58.51 | Ristovski | yes |
| 12:59.05 | babilen | gnarface: No, I don't. Why? |
| 12:59.37 | Ristovski | ok, but will I have to redownload everything? |
| 12:59.39 | gnarface | babilen: just from memory though tthat node would be more contextual to the requester; that's al.. |
| 12:59.48 | Ristovski | I have been downloading 1066MB for 2 hours almost |
| 12:59.53 | babilen | Ristovski: fwiw, packages shouldn't be redownloaded if they are found in /var/cache/apt/archives/ -- Mind checking? |
| 12:59.59 | Ristovski | okk |
| 13:00.02 | Iridos | if that's a recurrent problem, might be good to refer to that factoid in squeeze->wheezy, though |
| 13:00.19 | gnarface | thanks Iridos |
| 13:00.32 | gnarface | fucking glad someone can validate me here, even if accidentally |
| 13:00.33 | Ristovski | babilen: its full |
| 13:00.53 | babilen | Iridos: These bugs are some of the reasons why wheezy has not yet been released. A couple of "immediate configuration" failures during the upgrade. Might make sense to simply install it from scratch |
| 13:00.59 | babilen | Ristovski: full? |
| 13:01.15 | Iridos | with .debs |
| 13:01.33 | Ristovski | babilen: of packages that is |
| 13:01.39 | babilen | Ristovski: Could you check if they are the /correct/ debs? (i.e. those that are downloaded again) |
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| 13:02.32 | Ristovski | babilen: "dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove --force-depends which isn't installed.Errors were encountered while processing: openjdk-6-jre" |
| 13:02.40 | Ristovski | seems like Im fucked |
| 13:03.16 | Ristovski | babilen: and they are the correct ones |
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| 13:04.33 | babilen | Ristovski: What is the status of openjdk-6-jdk (dpkg -l openjdk-6-jdk) and could you start pasting relevant output/information to http://paste.debian.net ? |
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| 13:04.39 | Iridos | Ristovski, did you add --force-depends at the end of line? |
| 13:04.55 | Ristovski | yes |
| 13:04.58 | Ristovski | to dpkg |
| 13:05.03 | babilen | Ristovski: Either way: If this isn't an important machine and you have backups of your services' configuration files you might just as well install wheezy from scratch |
| 13:05.25 | Ristovski | babilen: I dont have that much bandwidth |
| 13:05.27 | Iridos | Ristovski, try with the package name last |
| 13:05.54 | Ristovski | babilen: http://pastebin.com/5wpZ9AqK |
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| 13:06.20 | Ristovski | Iridos: that works, holdon |
| 13:06.29 | babilen | mumbles something along the lines of "ad ridden pastebin.com that wants me to tweet and stuff ..." |
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| 13:06.54 | Ristovski | Iridos: now how can I make apt not redownload all the pckages? |
| 13:06.58 | Ristovski | I have them in /var/cache |
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| 13:07.13 | Iridos | Ristovski, it does that automatically |
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| 13:07.30 | Ristovski | Iridos: so I apt-cache dist-upgrade again? |
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| 13:07.42 | Iridos | apt-get |
| 13:07.57 | babilen | Ristovski: Which files are downloaded (exactly!) and which files do you have in /var/cache/apt/archives/ ? (some examples would suffice, but the behaviour you desire is the standard one) |
| 13:08.20 | Ristovski | babilen: alot of files are downloaded, like 1300+ |
| 13:08.30 | Ristovski | and Im sure they are the ones in archives |
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| 13:09.02 | under | Hi guys. I just installed debian testing and I would like to install clearType fonts becouse the default one is not so good. |
| 13:09.22 | under | apt cannot find ttf-mscorefonts-installer |
| 13:09.25 | Ristovski | babilen: ok, new errors now, http://pastebin.com/Tat2ikQB |
| 13:09.30 | babilen | Ristovski: Well, you checked. Are they /exactly/ the same? (i.e. package name + version + md5sum) |
| 13:09.53 | Ristovski | babilen: I havent got any archivess before, and i checked the versions |
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| 13:10.09 | babilen | Ristovski: Please run "apt-get -f install" as mentioned in the factoid on immediate configuration |
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| 13:10.52 | babilen | Ristovski: So, may I see such an example? But you can take your time, I'll be busy for a little while. (real life, sigh!) |
| 13:11.07 | Ristovski | ok, btw new errors: http://pastebin.com/BEKxeVrZ |
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| 13:11.46 | babilen | Ristovski: Try "aptitude -f install" and also paste the output of "apt-cache policy" and your sources.list |
| 13:12.00 | Ristovski | babilen: I saw apt download linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64_3.2.35 and I have it in archives |
| 13:12.46 | babilen | Ristovski: It is no surprise that it is in the archive /after/ it is download. Will it be downlaoded again? But lets discuss this later, time for something else now |
| 13:12.49 | Ristovski | babilen: aptitude works |
| 13:12.58 | Ristovski | it removed it |
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| 13:13.36 | boudiccas | how do i find out what groups my user is in please? |
| 13:13.45 | Ristovski | babilen: http://pastebin.com/ZTZpMZ0d policy |
| 13:14.07 | jelly | boudiccas: groups |
| 13:14.12 | boudiccas | thanks |
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| 13:14.27 | jelly | boudiccas: you could have guessed that one yourself! |
| 13:14.49 | Ristovski | babilen: my sources file: http://pastebin.com/htGQJkpL |
| 13:15.14 | boudiccas | jelly: i tried group and got zilch! :) just missed the 's' on the end |
| 13:15.30 | jelly | tab key is your friend |
| 13:15.42 | Ristovski | babilen: do i just run apt-get dist-upgrade again? |
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| 13:15.46 | dimaursu16 | hello |
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| 13:16.02 | dimaursu16 | is this guy around here ? Steve McIntyre |
| 13:16.40 | babilen | Ristovski: fwiw, I will not support that configuration (due to third-party repositories) -- a dist-upgrade might be right, and you still haven't shown evidence of the downloading behaviour. And /please/ paste information to a single pastebin, append new information and use http://paste.debian.net |
| 13:16.48 | babilen | dimaursu16: whatfor? |
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| 13:17.05 | babilen | dimaursu16: And no, Steve is not here AFAICT |
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| 13:17.41 | Ristovski | babilen: the filenames are the same as what apt was downloading |
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| 13:17.56 | Ristovski | and this is brand new debian, I havent used apt on this before |
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| 13:18.24 | dimaursu16 | babilen, I saw he has a few unoficial CD-s for UEFI hardware. |
| 13:18.30 | Ristovski | dist upgrade seems to be working |
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| 13:18.49 | dimaursu16 | I'm downloading now this http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/efi-development/upload5/ |
| 13:19.09 | dimaursu16 | and I'm curious how it works, because I have an UEFI laptop... |
| 13:19.15 | babilen | dimaursu16: wheezy installers support uefi since beta4 and you can get "unofficial" ones from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ (unofficla because they include firmware) |
| 13:19.24 | dimaursu16 | I have ubuntu + archlinux, and I'm intending to change ubuntu for debian... |
| 13:19.27 | babilen | dimaursu16: The one you are downloading is probably not even alpha |
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| 13:20.04 | dimaursu16 | I've installed ubuntu just because it can "uefi"...following the arch wiki for this matter didn't succeded for me :( |
| 13:20.10 | babilen | dimaursu16: Ah, no ... Those are yet different builds. Well, try them and report to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net for support |
| 13:20.13 | dimaursu16 | I've installed ubuntu just because it can "uefi"...following the arch wiki for this matter didn't worked for me :( |
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| 13:20.53 | babilen | dimaursu16: As said: wheezy installers support efi/gpt since beta4 -- but this is still work in progress and you might run into problems. fwiw, i used beta4 with no problems |
| 13:21.06 | dimaursu16 | babilen, what do you recomend me? Should I try debian wheezy beta4? will it work with uefi? |
| 13:21.26 | dimaursu16 | how? should I do stuff manually, or it will automagically work ? |
| 13:21.43 | babilen | dimaursu16: yes, as would probably the image you download now (that does not include firmware though) -- i am not that closely involved in the development of uefi support |
| 13:22.23 | dimaursu16 | and that firmware...what does it include? drivers? I will need drivers for wifi... |
| 13:22.24 | babilen | dimaursu16: If you boot the installer in uefi mode (i.e. not legacy) it will be in uefi mode and install grub-efi and use guid partition tables |
| 13:23.13 | dimaursu16 | :D unfortunately my laptop doesn't have an option to turn off uefi...so I can't do anything about it, it will boot in uefi mode whether I want it or not |
| 13:23.18 | babilen | dimaursu16: In short: I would use either the beta4 or the daily with firmware -- Are you planning to install from USB? |
| 13:23.24 | dimaursu16 | yes |
| 13:23.31 | babilen | dimaursu16: Well, in that case you will definitely boot in uefi mode :) |
| 13:23.44 | Ristovski | babilen: it seems to be working, thanks for the help :P |
| 13:23.45 | dimaursu16 | I don't even have a cd-rom... |
| 13:23.59 | babilen | dimaursu16: Use the installer that comes with firmware -- Are you connected via ethernet or wireless? (can you connect via ethernet?) |
| 13:24.04 | babilen | Ristovski: great |
| 13:24.46 | dimaursu16 | well..I prefer isntalling it over wifi... |
| 13:25.00 | dimaursu16 | babilen, is there a torrent file for beta4? |
| 13:25.11 | dimaursu16 | I could not find any :( |
| 13:25.36 | babilen | dimaursu16: I have no idea, but you should be able to download it directly from the mirror |
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| 13:26.28 | babilen | dimaursu16: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/daily-builds/wheezy_d-i/current/amd64/iso-cd/ ← daily |
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| 13:27.15 | Patteh | can i get some help with a fresh debian install please? |
| 13:27.16 | babilen | dimaursu16: How do you connect to the internet? Which desktop environment (if any) do you plan to use? |
| 13:27.30 | Patteh | install all goes okay, but i get a black screen with a blinking cursor on boot |
| 13:27.47 | Patteh | think its to do with nonfree ati drivers that need to be installed |
| 13:27.54 | Patteh | but i can see no opportunity to install them |
| 13:28.10 | Patteh | i checked ssh server during install but i cannot seem to connect |
| 13:28.19 | Patteh | and ctrl alt f1 doesnt give me a console |
| 13:28.44 | babilen | Patteh: You probably need firmware that you didn't provide during the installation -- Which version of Debian did you install? |
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| 13:29.01 | babilen | dpkg: tell Patteh -about radeon firmware |
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| 13:29.24 | dimaursu16 | I'm planing to use awesome wm + wicd && maybe gnome3 && maybe xmonad. but mainly the first one :D |
| 13:30.08 | babilen | dimaursu16: Ok, then don't install the "desktop" task (only standard and if applicable laptop) during the installation. Continue with "/msg dpkg install x" and awesomewm ... |
| 13:30.11 | Patteh | i installed 6.06 i386 version |
| 13:30.15 | cardiel | what are the pros and cons on nfs vs samba on a local server? is nfs faster? |
| 13:30.25 | Patteh | using small CD image |
| 13:30.42 | Patteh | how can i provide the firmware during installation? |
| 13:30.44 | babilen | dimaursu16: wicd has (in my experience) been quite obsoleted by network-manager (which is pretty good these days). They even stopped developing for some time, but somebody started maintaining it again |
| 13:30.48 | babilen | (just saying) |
| 13:30.58 | Patteh | i loaded the shell |
| 13:31.03 | Patteh | but no apt-get commands in there |
| 13:31.08 | babilen | Patteh: On what kind of hardware are you installing? |
| 13:31.13 | Patteh | desktop pc |
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| 13:31.30 | babilen | Patteh: Ok, type of processor? graphic card? ... |
| 13:31.40 | dimaursu16 | babilen, I had some troubles with network-manager :| it kept asking me about root password, about keyring password, and other nasty stuff |
| 13:31.44 | Patteh | radeon hd2900 gfx |
| 13:31.54 | Patteh | intel Q6600 processor |
| 13:32.00 | Patteh | 3gb ram |
| 13:32.18 | babilen | dimaursu16: Well, you need to run polkit-gnome-authentication-daemon -- How do you start awesome? |
| 13:32.27 | gnarface | cardiel: yes |
| 13:32.28 | Patteh | if i could get to a terminal somehow then i can probably sort it |
| 13:32.34 | dimaursu16 | I have and .xinitrc file |
| 13:32.39 | dimaursu16 | startx .xinitrc |
| 13:32.41 | Patteh | but with this blank screen all that works is ctrl alt delete to resart |
| 13:32.44 | dimaursu16 | pff |
| 13:32.45 | dimaursu16 | soryy |
| 13:32.49 | dimaursu16 | startx awesome |
| 13:33.21 | dimaursu16 | and .xinitrx uses $2 to select awesome |
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| 13:34.08 | babilen | dimaursu16: /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 -- and you /have/ to initialise policikit, consolekit and dbus correctly when you start awesome. That can be either done by using a login manager (e.g. gdm3) or by using something like "exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch awesome" in your ~/.xsession |
| 13:34.11 | dimaursu16 | I would prefer networkmanager, as is more complete... |
| 13:34.57 | gnarface | FUCK NETWORK MANAGER |
| 13:35.01 | gnarface | FUCK IT IN THE GOAT ASS |
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| 13:35.27 | babilen | gnarface: that is more than enough -- go out for a walk and /calm down/ |
| 13:36.26 | dimaursu16 | it's actually very nice. with that exception. wicd doens't require special care |
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| 13:37.26 | babilen | dimaursu16: Well, you simply have to start awesome in a way that is expected these days ... the easiest is to simply use a login manager, but see above for a working ~/.xsession example |
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| 13:37.53 | BadCodSmell | How do I tell debian to autoload a module? |
| 13:37.55 | cardiel | gnarface: ok, will go for nfs then :) |
| 13:37.59 | BadCodSmell | For the kernel |
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| 13:38.34 | ChrisH | BadCodSmell: man modules |
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| 13:39.59 | BadCodSmell | That's what I thought |
| 13:40.08 | BadCodSmell | So modules.conf and modprobe.d does something else? |
| 13:41.50 | BadCodSmell | The pressence of those is what is confusing me |
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| 13:43.51 | BadCodSmell | using /etc/modules doesn't work |
| 13:43.51 | Iridos | BadCodSmell, actually, udev loads a lot of modules during runtime |
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| 13:44.30 | ChrisH | BadCodSmell: using /etc/modules ; depmod -a ; reboot did allways work for me |
| 13:45.00 | BadCodSmell | this is an initrd, don't know if I can depmod -a |
| 13:45.08 | BadCodSmell | I guess I'll need to setthe paths |
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| 13:45.56 | ChrisH | BadCodSmell: you did not speak about the initial bootup while initrd is beeing executed. Maybe you explain a bit more what you want to do. |
| 13:47.47 | BadCodSmell | Give the debian installation usb stick the ability to use an ext2 partition |
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| 13:48.37 | BadCodSmell | It appears to work other than having to drop into an emergency shell and modprobe ext2 |
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| 13:52.19 | ChrisH | BadCodSmell: I did something similar for an initrd.gz inside PXE boot stuff, pasted my notes (some german words in) here http://paste.debian.net/223119/ |
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| 13:53.00 | BadCodSmell | ah yes |
| 13:53.06 | BadCodSmell | this is what I am doing :) |
| 13:53.40 | BadCodSmell | I am tempted to just add modprobe ext2;mount /cdrom;exit to the detect media script instead |
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| 13:54.00 | youlysses | Ok, so I'm about to do a squeeze install on my always-on home-server, and was wondering if there's anything in the installer that will let me set a mount-point for my sdb drive to /home. If not, it's not a huge deal by any means, I'll just do so afterwards. :-) |
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| 13:55.21 | ChrisH | youlysses: If I got your question right. There is a option inside the installer to mount existing Filesystems |
| 13:55.57 | youlysses | ChrisH: Ok, cool! Thanks. |
| 13:56.26 | ChrisH | BadCodSmell: an initramfs-tools |
| 13:56.37 | ChrisH | BadCodSmell: man initramfs-tools might be what you are looking for. |
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| 13:59.34 | Patteh | can anyone tell me the difference with the linux images that have a 5 in them? |
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| 13:59.46 | Patteh | i.e 2.6.32-5-486 |
| 13:59.51 | Patteh | as opposed to those without |
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| 14:01.01 | dcherniv | Patteh, -5 simply mean build 5, same kernel version |
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| 14:02.22 | jelly | Patteh: /msg dpkg kernel abi |
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| 14:04.21 | Iridos | youlysses, the partitioning program lets you choose partitions for mount-points... and there's also an option not to format |
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| 14:06.35 | martianixor | hi |
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| 14:12.03 | xp-m | i'm trying to redirect new output connection on port 25 to 587 : iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 25 -j REDIRECT --to-port 587 |
| 14:12.10 | xp-m | what is wrong with this iptables rule? |
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| 14:15.01 | BadCodSmell | If that will work wont it redirect to port 587 locally? |
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| 14:16.52 | BadCodSmell | also you might want that in prerouting or something |
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| 14:17.55 | nerdowiec | hi i have terible problem which need to be fast resolved, i could not resolve localhost by typing `host localhost` |
| 14:18.16 | ksk | try an "ifup lo" |
| 14:18.28 | nerdowiec | lo is up |
| 14:18.33 | frostschutz | nerdowiec: and check your /etc/hosts |
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| 14:18.38 | ksk | then your etc/hosts may be bogous |
| 14:18.45 | nerdowiec | problem is with dns resolve |
| 14:18.55 | ksk | localhost is not resolved via dns |
| 14:19.10 | milosn | is anyone using firefox from linux mint repository? |
| 14:19.12 | nerdowiec | 127.0.0.1 localhost |
| 14:19.17 | nerdowiec | it is ok |
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| 14:19.37 | milosn | if so, how to add google search, duckduck go doesnt cut it |
| 14:19.49 | laura_palmer | milosn: No. Why would you use the Linux Mint repositories from Debian? |
| 14:19.53 | milosn | i wonder whos wonderful idea was to remove google search from it |
| 14:20.06 | ksk | nerdowiec: put a "lo" right after the localhost, too |
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| 14:20.22 | milosn | laura_palmer: because they have firefox package |
| 14:20.22 | ksk | like "127.0.0.1<tab>localhost<tab>lo" |
| 14:20.27 | milosn | for whatever reason |
| 14:20.29 | laura_palmer | milosn: Are you talking about the search when using the awesome bar? |
| 14:20.34 | milosn | yes |
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| 14:20.45 | milosn | about search in the top right corner |
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| 14:21.06 | laura_palmer | milosn: If you go to "about:config" in the bar, search for "keyword.URL" |
| 14:21.06 | Morrolan | Click the lil' arrow, select 'manage', add whatever additional search you fancy? |
| 14:21.10 | laura_palmer | milosn: Then set it to: http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q= |
| 14:21.21 | nerdowiec | ksk: the problem is that when i'm trying to resolve localhost while not connected it blockiing, and if i try to do it while connected it returnsd Host localhost not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) |
| 14:21.24 | laura_palmer | milosn: Top right corner isn't the awesome bar... |
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| 14:21.30 | laura_palmer | milosn: That's the search box |
| 14:21.35 | milosn | ok then search box |
| 14:21.44 | milosn | ill do the awesome bar as well |
| 14:21.48 | nerdowiec | ksk: it is separated with spackes |
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| 14:26.17 | nerdowiec | could anybody help me? |
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| 14:27.47 | jelly | nerdowiec: which application returns that error and fails? |
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| 14:38.05 | noreasontogetexc | So, hello. |
| 14:38.27 | DeltaHeavy | nerdowiec: I have no idea since I don't have a clue what your issue is |
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| 14:38.58 | beefcube | hello all |
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| 14:40.15 | Chat7491 | Hi |
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| 14:40.47 | noreasontogetexc | Nerdoweic, I well may be able to solve your issue, without a clue as to what it is. Have you tried 0x63DE7DC154F4D039? |
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| 14:42.00 | noreasontogetexc | kthxbye |
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| 14:48.49 | Ristovski | babilen: Hello, so im back, it worked, now just one question, do you know where I can get ATI drivers? (for HD 5145) |
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| 14:49.15 | Ristovski | i dont see my card listed on http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/xserver-xorg-video-radeon |
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| 14:50.55 | Ristovski | whoop! sound issue |
| 14:50.59 | beliveyourdream | is it ok to purge mail ?? |
| 14:51.10 | babilen | Ristovski: Is it not working? |
| 14:51.16 | babilen | dpkg: tell Ristovski -about radeon |
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| 14:52.12 | Ristovski | babilen: so I can install fglrx? |
| 14:52.20 | Ristovski | also, sound is only from one speaker |
| 14:52.22 | Ristovski | xD |
| 14:53.25 | babilen | Ristovski: You could install it, but are you sure that you need it? The free radeon drivers typically work pretty well. See "/msg dpkg fglrx dkms" for further instructions on how to install fglrx, but simply installing firmware (/msg dpkg radeon firmware) and libgl1-mesa-dri might be enough. Are you having problems with that driver? |
| 14:53.48 | Ristovski | babilen: I dont have any it seems, and my DE lags |
| 14:53.51 | Ristovski | VERY MUCH |
| 14:54.17 | beliveyourdream | anyone ?] |
| 14:54.29 | Ristovski | babilen: shall i just install xserver-xorg-video-radeon? but what should I do if it doesnt work? like if I have issues |
| 14:54.35 | Ristovski | can I boot into a CLI and fix it? |
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| 14:55.53 | babilen | Ristovski: You almost certainly have xserver-xorg-video-radeon installed already, what does "apt-cache policy libgl1-mesa-dri firmware-linux-nonfree" give you? Could you install mesa-utils and run "glxinfo|grep render" and paste the output of that too? (to http://paste.debian.net ) |
| 14:55.57 | Ristovski | babilen: I have it seems like, but it lags |
| 14:56.17 | babilen | beliveyourdream: What do you mean by "purge mail" ? |
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| 14:56.37 | beliveyourdream | babilen remove the mail package |
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| 14:57.03 | babilen | beliveyourdream: There is no "mail" package. Are you referring to exim4? |
| 14:57.13 | Ristovski | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/223139/ |
| 14:57.18 | Ristovski | both commands there |
| 14:57.38 | beliveyourdream | the one that says No mail when i login |
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| 14:57.50 | beliveyourdream | don't know exactly which one is it |
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| 14:58.32 | babilen | Ristovski: thank you -- could you please enable non-free and contrib in your sources.list and run "apt-get update" and install firmware-linux-nonfree ? then reboot and test again |
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| 14:59.01 | Ristovski | babilen: what if it breaks? how can I boot into safe mode or w/e? |
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| 14:59.47 | babilen | Ristovski: w/e ? Why do you expect the installation of a firmware package to break the system? |
| 14:59.56 | Ristovski | yes |
| 15:00.10 | Ristovski | babilen: how do I add nonfree? |
| 15:00.12 | babilen | Why → yes ... something is wrong |
| 15:00.31 | Ristovski | oops didnt read it good |
| 15:00.38 | babilen | You add "contrib non-free" after main for every deb line in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 15:00.39 | Ristovski | babilen: Ive tried getting drivers before |
| 15:00.46 | Ristovski | it fucked up everytime |
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| 15:01.46 | Ristovski | babilen: installing firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 15:01.48 | babilen | Ristovski: Well, maybe you've done something wrong. You /do/ need firmware for a bunch of radeon GPUs and I wouldn't necessarily expect this to break the system. But feel free to install an ssh server so you can ssh into the box if something goes wrong. |
| 15:02.10 | babilen | Ristovski: Which driver did you install that b0rked the system? How did you install it? |
| 15:02.20 | Ristovski | babilen: proprietary drivers |
| 15:02.24 | Ristovski | for ATI cards |
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| 15:02.46 | Ristovski | babilen: shall I reboot? |
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| 15:03.04 | babilen | Ristovski: fwiw, you don't need stable in your sources.list anymore. Just to make sure that you've upgraded correctly: May I see the output of "aptitude search ~o" "aptitude search '~I~n^linux-'" too? |
| 15:03.17 | Ristovski | ok |
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| 15:03.43 | Ristovski | babilen: first command returned nothing |
| 15:03.48 | babilen | Ristovski: Err, remove stable from your sources.list /before/ running those commands |
| 15:03.54 | Ristovski | ok |
| 15:03.55 | babilen | (and run "apt-get update") |
| 15:04.15 | Ristovski | babilen: I comment out the stable deb? |
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| 15:05.03 | babilen | Ristovski: /all/ stable/squeeze specific repos |
| 15:05.13 | babilen | dpkg: tell Ristovski about make wheezy sources.list |
| 15:05.22 | Ristovski | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/223144/ |
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| 15:05.43 | Ristovski | babilen: second one gives "E: Unknown pattern type: I" |
| 15:06.13 | babilen | Ristovski: Oh, that should have been ~i not ~I |
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| 15:06.40 | Ristovski | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/223145/ |
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| 15:07.10 | ciphered | the latest apache in debian suppoorts html5? |
| 15:07.15 | ciphered | by default? |
| 15:07.17 | Ristovski | babilen: Ive installed "firmware-linux-nonfree" shall i reboot? |
| 15:07.22 | Sm0ke0ut | err |
| 15:07.29 | babilen | Ristovski: All packages that come up when you run "aptitude search ~o" are obsolete (in the sense that they are not in wheezy) -- I would recommend to purge them by running "aptitude purge ~o" -- Assuming you are booted into the 3.2 kernel you can also remove the .32 one |
| 15:07.31 | Sm0ke0ut | html isn't a serverlanguage or whatsoever |
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| 15:07.40 | babilen | Ristovski: Reboot after you've done that |
| 15:07.44 | Ristovski | babilen: ok |
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| 15:08.03 | Sm0ke0ut | it's being implementend in the browser(s), so yes.. Apache 'supports' html5 @ ciphered |
| 15:08.20 | Ristovski | babilen: do i need to remove the kernel? |
| 15:08.59 | ciphered | Sm0ke0ut: do i need to enable any module? |
| 15:09.02 | ciphered | or by default? |
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| 15:09.08 | Sm0ke0ut | no |
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| 15:09.23 | Sm0ke0ut | ^o) |
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| 15:09.48 | Sm0ke0ut | HTML5 is being implemented by browsers, apache doesn't care about what you output.... |
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| 15:10.38 | Kriminel | hi, excuse my ignorance but how do i determine if my debian x64 distro is etch or sarge? |
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| 15:11.44 | nmschulte | Hi all! I have some questions regarding the use of public key pairs and security. Right now I have a "home" keypair, and a "mobile" keypair. |
| 15:12.04 | nmschulte | The mobile keypair is for my laptop. |
| 15:12.06 | jelly | dpkg, tell Kriminel about debian suite |
| 15:12.23 | Kriminel | thank you jelly |
| 15:12.43 | nmschulte | At home, I have a "gateway" device running sshd on port 22 through my NAT. |
| 15:12.44 | jelly | I don't think sarge had amd64 at all |
| 15:12.57 | nmschulte | From that box, you are then on the LAN. |
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| 15:13.23 | jelly | Kriminel: version of libc6 and base-files packages would also be indicative of the Debian release installed |
| 15:13.23 | nmschulte | How should I setup my authorized_keys files on the machines at home and on the gateway? |
| 15:13.58 | jhutchins_wk | nmschulte: The key needs to be on the target machine. If the gateway is just forwarding the port it doesn't need a key. |
| 15:14.08 | nmschulte | Should the gateway should have the public key for the mobile keypair (which uses a passphrase, like all of my keypairs) or should I prefer password authentication? |
| 15:14.23 | Kriminel | jelly this is what i get: http://pastebin.com/RqCjctUq i'll nano the source list now to see if i get any hints |
| 15:14.28 | nmschulte | jhutchins_wk: The gateway is not just forwarding a port; it is a separate host with sshd running. |
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| 15:14.49 | nmschulte | It's a low power device from which I can "get on my LAN" if I need to power up other devices. |
| 15:15.16 | nmschulte | I understand how authorized_keys and sshd work, I want to know more of the philosophical/security side of things. |
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| 15:15.44 | stackofcats | nmschulte: so if the gateway is your ssh target machine, you will have to put the public keys of both keypairs into the authorized_keys of your gateway |
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| 15:15.49 | nmschulte | My laptop is setup with full disk encryption, but should I lose the laptop while it is still powered and with the drive unlocked. |
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| 15:16.20 | nmschulte | And then should I lose my laptop or otherwise feel my "mobile" key is compromised, I simply revoke that key? |
| 15:16.22 | stackofcats | nmschulte: you should also disable password authentication on it and use pubkey authentication only |
| 15:16.33 | jelly | Kriminel: oh, that's deiban 6 -- squeeze, the current one |
| 15:16.37 | nmschulte | stackofcats: Okay, that's what I have setup right now; as well as root disallowed. |
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| 15:16.56 | jhutchins_wk | nmschulte: Make sure the chinstrap on your tinfoil hat is tight. |
| 15:17.08 | Ristovski | babilen: I purged all obsolete packages, and installed the nonfree soft. shall I reboot now? |
| 15:17.31 | antsygeek | ok so i'm still playing with preseed. i am trying a custom disk layout (expert_recipe). I am specifying 2500MiB size, but the partition gets as big as the whole disk. why? |
| 15:17.41 | babilen | Ristovski: yes |
| 15:17.45 | Ristovski | ok |
| 15:17.49 | stackofcats | nmschulte: yes. if you loose your laptop, you remove the mobile-pubkey from authorized_keys |
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| 15:17.56 | nmschulte | If I want to use agent forwarding, should I worry about having my mobile key on the rest of my LAN? Or should I prefer to not use agent forwarding, and setup the gateway with either another key, or with my home key? |
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| 15:18.03 | Kriminel | jelly oic, i'm trying to install ispcp and they mention sarge or etch. Which one is closest to squeeze? I'm following this howto: http://isp-control.net/ispcp/wiki/usage_howto/install/installation/Debian |
| 15:18.11 | nmschulte | jhutchins_wk: hush now! |
| 15:19.09 | nmschulte | ;) |
| 15:19.13 | jelly | Kriminel: both sarge and etch are VERY, very old |
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| 15:19.25 | jelly | !release history |
| 15:19.26 | dpkg | Debian releases are named after characters from the movie "Toy Story". Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-03-09), Potato(2.2; 2000-08-15), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06), Etch(4.0; 2007-04-08), Lenny(5.0; 2009-02-14), Squeeze(6.0; 2011-02-06). The next release will be Wheezy. http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives |
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| 15:19.54 | stackofcats | nmschulte: if your other hosts are not exposed, it should not be a problem to have the same authorized_keys file there as on your gateway |
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| 15:20.27 | Ristovski | babilen: Hey! It works no lag |
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| 15:20.32 | nmschulte | Cool. |
| 15:20.32 | Ristovski | let me check my sound now |
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| 15:20.36 | Kriminel | jelly: i see - so i should probably look for a better cpanel like server manager thats more up to date - do you have any sugestions for me? |
| 15:20.39 | babilen | Ristovski: wonderful, enjoy! |
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| 15:20.48 | Ristovski | babilen: my sound is mono tho |
| 15:20.50 | Ristovski | damn alsa |
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| 15:23.40 | stackofcats | nmschulte: if you setup your gateway just for yourself, you could also consider using sshd's AllowUser directive to restrict access even more |
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| 15:24.15 | jhutchins_wk | !free whcp |
| 15:24.16 | dpkg | FOSS Web Hosting Control Panels include: <DTC>, <GNUPanel>, <ISPConfig> and <ispCP> Omega. Don't use <Webmin>. http://wiki.debian.org/HostingControlPanels |
| 15:24.33 | Ristovski | babilen: hmm, do you happen to know why my sound is left only? like, there is no sound on my right speaker or headphones |
| 15:24.42 | Ristovski | headphone* |
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| 15:25.08 | Kriminel | thank you jhutchins_wk |
| 15:25.59 | Ristovski | babilen: could I maybe compile alsa by myself? would that fix the issue? |
| 15:26.00 | babilen | Ristovski: Well, no idea. They might have a faulty connection or one side might be muted, it might be .... well a lot of things. |
| 15:26.07 | Ristovski | babilen: no, it works |
| 15:26.11 | Ristovski | its software side |
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| 15:26.17 | babilen | Ristovski: You almost certainly /do not/ have to compile alsa yourself |
| 15:26.23 | Ristovski | trust me, I KNOW its not a hardware fault |
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| 15:26.43 | Ristovski | babilen: it was same like this in Mint12 and ubuntu 11 |
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| 15:26.52 | Ristovski | only linux that didnt have this issue was ubuntu 12.04 |
| 15:27.15 | babilen | Ristovski: Ok, I trust you. Check in alsamixer -- It might also be that your soundcard might have to be configured differently, It might be that you are using pulseaudio and that /that/ is configured mono (check in pavucontrol → config tab) ... |
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| 15:27.26 | Ristovski | ok |
| 15:27.48 | Ristovski | babilen: I dont have pavucontrol, lemme install it |
| 15:27.50 | babilen | Ristovski: Sorry, but I am just not starting a "full support talk" on this right now |
| 15:27.57 | Ristovski | ok |
| 15:28.21 | Ristovski | google is my friend :D |
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| 15:28.39 | franco00 | can somebody explain me why it is cumbersome to install debian on a chromebook? For some UEFI reasons? |
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| 15:29.40 | Ristovski | fixed it |
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| 15:38.43 | deuterium | hia. did anybody here install, setup and successfully run http://www.automx.org ? somehow, sql queries and variable substitution doesn't work with my setup |
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| 15:54.47 | twobitsprite | does anyone know how I might force all files created in a given directory to be chmod g+w without using setfacl (it's an NFSv3 mount)? |
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| 15:57.33 | jhutchins_wk | franco00: Why do you think it's cumbersome? |
| 15:57.36 | colo-work | twobitsprite, I take it you cannot control your clients' umask? |
| 15:57.54 | franco00 | jhutchins_wk: you can't use debian installer, am I right jhutchins_wk ? |
| 15:57.58 | twobitsprite | colo-work: umask would be universal... I just want it for this one directory |
| 15:58.06 | jhutchins_wk | franco00: Why not? |
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| 15:58.30 | nmschulte | I'm seeing for ubuntu that there is the ability to use the "mirror:" scheme in your sources.list. Is this available with Debian? What about the http redirector, http.debian.net ? |
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| 15:59.27 | franco00 | jhutchins_wk: I read this... doesn't look like the usual install, am I wrong? http://cr.saverpigeeks.com/ |
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| 15:59.38 | franco00 | (or maybe I am missing something) |
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| 16:00.29 | sephii | i'm looking for a good guide about lxc on debian. anyone? |
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| 16:02.01 | babilen | nmschulte: What does the "mirror:" do in Ubuntu? |
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| 16:04.04 | jhutchins_wk | franco00: I would say that's just an alternative method of making a dual-boot chromebook. |
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| 16:07.44 | markovh | nmschulte: where did you see that? |
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| 16:08.31 | franco00 | http://superuser.com/questions/303509/ubuntu-on-chromebook-or-similar-class-machine answer #1, jhutchins_wk . Am I misreading it? |
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| 16:11.52 | jhutchins_wk | franco00: I think the hardware may be changing too rapidly to rely on third-party rumors on the web. As long as you have a way to restore the chrome OS on the system you might as well experiment with it yourself. |
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| 16:12.38 | franco00 | the fact is that I don't own a Chromebook, jhutchins_wk . And before buying it, I would love to check wheter Debian is installable the usual way |
| 16:12.51 | jhutchins_wk | franco00: Linux has had support for EFI systems for several years now. I do not personally know if there is a Debian release compiled for the Arm processor, but there are third-party versions available. |
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| 16:13.41 | MO_Handes | how can I tunnel port 80 on some random port to avoid ISP limits? |
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| 16:14.09 | babilen | franco00: efi is supported, but I have no idea about debian on a chromebook. The internet might know though ;) |
| 16:14.19 | laura_palmer | You're supporting Google (and their privacy abuse) if you purchase a Chromebook, even if you install Linux on it |
| 16:14.29 | laura_palmer | Why not buy hardware without ethical concerns? |
| 16:14.34 | jhutchins_wk | franco00: If you want a minimal netbook you can get an acer one for less than a chromebook, and Debian works pretty well on those. |
| 16:14.53 | max999 | +1 im on an acer aspire one. |
| 16:15.36 | travlerx | Hi there. I''ve configured my partitions using the manual option during installation of debian squeeze. fdisk -l shows this. http://dpaste.org/rx2wo/ I left ~50GB of free space.. but where do I find it. It does not show on the paste. |
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| 16:16.14 | max999 | travlerx, im not sure, will df -h show it? |
| 16:16.24 | jhutchins_wk | max999: Nope. |
| 16:16.31 | travlerx | I was planning to use the rest of the space in LVM. |
| 16:16.37 | travlerx | max999: does not |
| 16:16.53 | [TheFlash] | is there any wiki which lists common issues with Debian on laptops? |
| 16:17.00 | MO_Handes | how can I tunnel port 80 on some random port to avoid ISP limits? |
| 16:17.09 | travlerx | max999: http://dpaste.org/uZmgs/ |
| 16:17.10 | [TheFlash] | and tutorials on how to get debian working on said laptops? |
| 16:17.12 | MO_Handes | where can I ask this question? "my ISP has limited my http download speed, but I can download with a good speed from torrent with port 51413, how can I solve my issue with http then?" |
| 16:17.25 | max999 | fdisk -p ? |
| 16:17.40 | max999 | nah wont work |
| 16:17.47 | travlerx | max999: no option :) |
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| 16:17.59 | jhutchins_wk | travlerx: fdisk -l will show the total blocks on the disk and the blocks used by partitions, which will not add up to the total space. |
| 16:18.09 | max999 | travler and if you use sudo fdisk /dev/sd[n] and press p then? |
| 16:18.17 | jhutchins_wk | travlerx: Why do you want to display what you already know? |
| 16:18.39 | jhutchins_wk | MO_Handes: Find a better ISP. |
| 16:18.42 | jelly | franco00: treat it like an embedded platform that it essentially is, and assume the installation process will not be as simple as a PC install would be |
| 16:18.46 | travlerx | max999: no /dev/sd.. |
| 16:18.58 | [TheFlash] | MO_Handes: or use a non-http proxy |
| 16:18.59 | max999 | travlerx, well replace sd[n] with your device |
| 16:19.00 | max999 | :) |
| 16:19.00 | laura_palmer | MO_Handes: Probably just that your torrent is connecting to many different hosts, whereas an HTTP download is using a single one |
| 16:19.02 | travlerx | jhutchins_wk: can you tell me from the paste what the remaining space is? |
| 16:19.20 | max999 | travlerx, /dev/cciss/c0d0 |
| 16:19.25 | max999 | p |
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| 16:19.46 | [TheFlash] | MO_Handes: i mean use a proxy which acceps connections on ports other than 80 (http) |
| 16:19.56 | travlerx | max999: http://dpaste.org/J2IOG/ |
| 16:20.06 | MO_Handes | jhutchins_wk, [TheFlash] , laura_palmer , is there a way to use some random port instead of 80 for http connections? |
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| 16:20.30 | [TheFlash] | MO_Handes: through a proxy, yes, but not directly as far as I know |
| 16:20.44 | max999 | travlerx, is your harddisk that size physical? |
| 16:20.52 | max999 | is it 73,4 GB? |
| 16:20.54 | travlerx | max999: I've 2 sas disks |
| 16:20.59 | travlerx | yes. |
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| 16:21.33 | sephii | here's my lxc problem just in case someone could help: i used "lxc-create -n test -t debian", it created the rootfs without any issue but when I try to run "lxc-start -n test" i get the following output and don't get any login shell: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/c7d72c5c/ |
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| 16:21.58 | ksk | disable selinux? |
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| 16:22.09 | travlerx | max999: I've 2 72G SAS drives. |
| 16:22.18 | [TheFlash] | MO_Handes: i think tor uses a different port than 80, so you could try using that? |
| 16:22.18 | ksk | ( i have no idea, just saw that "buzzword" ) |
| 16:22.41 | sephii | ksk: oh, you might be right |
| 16:22.47 | ksk | and i guess your init is somehow broken |
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| 16:23.06 | ksk | (as in /sbin/init or whatever inittab wants to run) |
| 16:23.06 | MO_Handes | [TheFlash], it uses 9050, yes, but it seems it doesn't solve my issue |
| 16:23.12 | UukGoblin | is there some nice way to be able to flip between window managers without restarting X? |
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| 16:23.48 | max999 | UukGoblin, use a login manager and logout / in again? |
| 16:23.55 | [TheFlash] | MO_Handes: well, maybe that's because tor is slow by itself anyway, you could try finding a faster proxy |
| 16:24.00 | UukGoblin | back in the days of using slackware, I just ran an xterm in my .xinit, and then ran various window managers from that xterm - when a window manager died or crashedk I could run another one |
| 16:24.07 | yeehi | How easy is it to stay with exclusively free software in Debian? I don't want binary blobs in kernel and would like to use btrfs so need recent libre kernel |
| 16:24.08 | MO_Handes | [TheFlash], tor uses socks proxy, not http proxy, is that a problem? |
| 16:24.13 | UukGoblin | max999, sorry, I meant 'without killing all my X apps' |
| 16:24.18 | max999 | UukGoblin, you can still start multiple xservers |
| 16:24.37 | travlerx | max999: when I manually partitioned the drive there was something like ~50GB FREE. On Ubuntu it always appeared after installation finished |
| 16:24.49 | UukGoblin | max999, no, I want 1 xserver, but being able to e.g. upgrade a window manager without killing all the apps that run inside of it |
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| 16:25.06 | travlerx | I really don't know where de space went. I believe we can't see dark matter ^^ |
| 16:25.24 | laura_palmer | yeehi: Depends on your hardware, not too difficult mostly |
| 16:25.24 | max999 | UukGoblin, i think it should work. let me try =) |
| 16:25.47 | UukGoblin | huh. |
| 16:25.47 | yeehi | hi, laura_palmer - i currently have hardware that does not require non-free drivers |
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| 16:25.55 | max999 | doesnt work this way ;) |
| 16:25.57 | UukGoblin | max999, :-D |
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| 16:26.18 | laura_palmer | yeehi: Then it's fine, provided you don't care about reliable Flash or 3D acceleration etc. etc. |
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| 16:26.33 | UukGoblin | my habit of opening a gazillion of xterm windows is unsustainable :-[ |
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| 16:26.51 | travlerx | So does anyone have any clue about this? |
| 16:27.02 | max999 | UukGoblin, its discussed here https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=42670 .. maybe u find something valuable |
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| 16:27.39 | UukGoblin | max999, ah, thanks! |
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| 16:28.41 | franco00 | thanks for your answers |
| 16:28.42 | sephii | ksk: i tried disabling selinux, no luck :/ |
| 16:29.18 | yeehi | laura_palmer - integrated intel graphics. Also, nouveau runs on the nvidia card. I can live without flash, but I do miss it and that is a minus. I have been using Trisquel, based on Ubuntu |
| 16:29.25 | [TheFlash] | travlerx: what problem are you having with the free space? |
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| 16:30.15 | travlerx | [TheFlash]: http://dpaste.org/J2IOG/ |
| 16:30.37 | travlerx | I've partitioned the drive using 'Manua' option during the installation process. |
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| 16:31.24 | travlerx | I purposely left ~50GB FREE SPACE on the disk so I could set up the LVM using lvm2 tools. |
| 16:31.48 | travlerx | problem: I don't see the 50GB space anywhere. |
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| 16:32.25 | EmleyMoor | travlerx: tried cfdisk? |
| 16:32.34 | Towzzer | parted |
| 16:32.46 | travlerx | Towzzer: I don't have GUI |
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| 16:33.02 | travlerx | EmleyMoor: FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive |
| 16:33.09 | travlerx | Press any key to exit cfdisk |
| 16:33.20 | yeehi | Why are security updates in the Stable Squeeze release in the non-free repository? On the website, it says: If you use APT, add the following line to /etc/apt/sources.list to be able to access the latest security updates: deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free |
| 16:33.24 | [TheFlash] | travlerx: but your extended partition ends at cylinder 4142 |
| 16:33.29 | EmleyMoor | What's the setup exactly? |
| 16:33.38 | nkuttler | yeehi: depends on the package |
| 16:33.48 | EmleyMoor | yeehi: Sometimes a non-free package needs a security related update |
| 16:33.49 | Towzzer | parted is a command line tool |
| 16:33.57 | Towzzer | it's a bit easier to work with |
| 16:33.58 | [TheFlash] | travlerx: your disk has 17562 cylinders total |
| 16:34.06 | nkuttler | cfdisk is also a CLI tool |
| 16:34.09 | travlerx | [TheFlash]: true |
| 16:34.27 | koollman | yeehi: you're reading it the wrong way. it's not in the non-free repository. |
| 16:35.06 | [TheFlash] | travlerx: but that means you have ~ 52 GB free space on that disk |
| 16:35.09 | koollman | yeehi: on the security mirror, there is a non-free component available. as well as main and contrib |
| 16:35.27 | [TheFlash] | travlerx: and you have two available partition slots, c0d0p3 and c0d0p4 |
| 16:35.30 | travlerx | [TheFlash]: Allright sounsd correct but how do I lvm de rest |
| 16:35.42 | koollman | yeehi: and it contains security updates for the non-free packages. (same for the security/contrib and security/main) |
| 16:35.43 | EmleyMoor | yeehi: If you don't use any non-free you needn't mention it |
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| 16:37.15 | travlerx | [TheFlash]: there is no /dev/cciss/c0d0p3 or 4 there. |
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| 16:37.34 | [TheFlash] | travlerx: but you can create them |
| 16:37.48 | travlerx | [TheFlash]: using fdisk? |
| 16:37.52 | [TheFlash] | travlerx: because your partition table should have 4 slots + extended (which are numbered from 5) |
| 16:38.13 | [TheFlash] | travlerx: since you want LVM, take a look here: http://wiki.debian.org/LVM |
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| 16:39.22 | travlerx | [TheFlash]: I think I know how to use lvm.. but how would it work in this case? |
| 16:39.39 | travlerx | e.g pvcreate /dev/cciss/c0d0p3 |
| 16:39.59 | [TheFlash] | travlerx: i'm not quite sure, i've never used LVM |
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| 16:41.15 | travlerx | [TheFlash]: allright. Thanks for your help so far. |
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| 16:42.25 | [TheFlash] | travlerx: according to http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/ you should create the c0d0p3 and create a LVM group at that partition's beginning |
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| 16:43.19 | travlerx | [TheFlash]: but considering my drive layout, would it now be possible? |
| 16:44.00 | [TheFlash] | travlerx: c0d0p3 should be 52 GB in size, and LVM logical volumes will be inside it |
| 16:44.16 | travlerx | I mean I don't see any /dev/cciss/c0d0p3 |
| 16:44.50 | [TheFlash] | travlerx: you can create it using cfdisk |
| 16:45.00 | [TheFlash] | travlerx: i'm not sure that the "type" should be though... |
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| 16:45.04 | EmleyMoor | has just worked out his main vs. contrib/non-free percentage across his three physical machines... 7.61 x 10^-3 % |
| 16:45.11 | EmleyMoor | Er, no... |
| 16:45.19 | EmleyMoor | That's wrong |
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| 16:45.36 | EmleyMoor | 0.761% - that's more like it |
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| 16:46.16 | travlerx | [TheFlash]: cfdisk throws an error |
| 16:46.23 | travlerx | FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive |
| 16:46.23 | [TheFlash] | travlerx: did you run it as root? |
| 16:46.28 | travlerx | [TheFlash]: yes |
| 16:46.36 | travlerx | root@italy-2:~# |
| 16:47.09 | [TheFlash] | travlerx: try cfdisk /dev/cciss/c0d0 |
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| 16:47.41 | travlerx | [TheFlash]: that worked! |
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| 16:48.23 | travlerx | [TheFlash]: I see something at the end Pri/Log Free Space 56071.13 * |
| 16:48.23 | EmleyMoor | travlerx: Now you need to make a partition, of the right type, out of the Free Space... |
| 16:48.52 | [TheFlash] | EmleyMoor: what is the right type for a LVM? |
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| 16:49.00 | travlerx | exactly |
| 16:49.10 | travlerx | [Primary [Logical] [Cancel ] |
| 16:49.13 | frostschutz | do you want the whole thing to be lvm, then you'd not need partitions probably |
| 16:49.25 | EmleyMoor | 8E |
| 16:49.27 | travlerx | I need the whole free space to be on LVM |
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| 16:49.55 | travlerx | Do I need to chooose Primary or Logical? I very new to this stuff |
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| 16:50.12 | [TheFlash] | travlerx: primary should be OK, then it will be c0d0p3 |
| 16:50.17 | EmleyMoor | travlerx: If a primary is available, I'd use it |
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| 16:50.26 | [TheFlash] | travlerx: you have 2 primary slots avaiable |
| 16:51.12 | travlerx | [TheFlash]: allright now it's primary |
| 16:51.18 | travlerx | I see c0d0p3 |
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| 16:51.26 | travlerx | I've now a few options. |
| 16:51.41 | travlerx | Ah Type is there |
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| 16:52.12 | travlerx | I entered 8E |
| 16:52.29 | travlerx | Now do I have to go to [ Write ] option? |
| 16:52.32 | EmleyMoor | OK - then Shift-W to write the table |
| 16:52.32 | frostschutz | yup |
| 16:53.00 | [TheFlash] | travlerx: c0d0p3 is the partition you should use for pvcreate |
| 16:53.21 | travlerx | Guys thanks a lot! |
| 16:53.47 | travlerx | [TheFlash]: this is now how it looks like http://dpaste.org/OXItL/ |
| 16:53.58 | travlerx | frostschutz: danke auch! |
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| 16:54.17 | travlerx | EmleyMoor: Thank you too for your input. I now can proceed. |
| 16:54.29 | [TheFlash] | travlerx: wait a sec, why is c0d0p3 bootable? |
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| 16:54.30 | shomon | hi, I just deleted my apache default virtualhost config.. it's on the latest debian testing... |
| 16:54.46 | travlerx | [TheFlash]: Hmm I don't know |
| 16:54.51 | shomon | how do I get it back.. I guess find out what version of apache2 package it was, download somewhere and pick the file out |
| 16:54.55 | [TheFlash] | travlerx: isn't c0d0p1 your /boot partition? |
| 16:54.59 | shomon | but I went into apache2 and it's a metapackage... |
| 16:55.12 | travlerx | [TheFlash]: true. |
| 16:55.20 | travlerx | [TheFlash]: where do you see the bootable thing? |
| 16:55.32 | [TheFlash] | travlerx: there's a '*' next to c0d0p3 |
| 16:55.36 | EmleyMoor | travlerx: Best go back into cfdisk and reset Boot to c0d0p1 |
| 16:55.55 | babilen | EmleyMoor: the boot flag is completely meaningless for Linux |
| 16:55.58 | travlerx | Oh. Allright.. hmm I think I screwed it up no? |
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| 16:56.04 | frostschutz | c0d0p1 wasn't bootable before in his old paste |
| 16:56.09 | EmleyMoor | babilen: Ah, true |
| 16:56.17 | EmleyMoor | May well not be a problem then |
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| 16:56.21 | frostschutz | remove it anyway |
| 16:56.22 | Drod | hi |
| 16:56.27 | babilen | EmleyMoor: Some (all?) Windows versions need that, but Linux does not care |
| 16:56.29 | frostschutz | cfdisk, select partition, select boot, save |
| 16:56.31 | [TheFlash] | babilen: unless GRUB is installed on the partition instead of the MBR |
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| 16:56.45 | iLogical | for using full system encryption (the one you easily choose on the debian-installer wizard), how much swap will I need for a 500GB partition from an 1TB HD, with 4GB of RAM ? |
| 16:57.12 | travlerx | Allright but do I go again to [ Write ] after chengin bootable flag? |
| 16:57.21 | [TheFlash] | travlerx: well yes |
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| 16:57.34 | frostschutz | iLogical: encryption doesn't use significatnly more memory than without, so use as much swap as you would without encryption...? |
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| 16:57.42 | Drod | i'm trying to add user.. with root user but i received this msg all time: useradd cannot open /etc/passwd |
| 16:57.49 | Drod | apologies my english |
| 16:58.00 | iLogical | frostschutz, and how much would that be for this given situation? |
| 16:58.06 | travlerx | [TheFlash]: I now have twice * |
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| 16:58.14 | shomon | Drod: stupid question but what permissions do you have on /etc/password? |
| 16:58.31 | travlerx | sorted out |
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| 16:58.36 | travlerx | [TheFlash]: one thing remaining |
| 16:58.38 | Drod | shomon: -rw-r--r-- |
| 16:58.41 | [TheFlash] | travlerx: strange, according to the MBR specification, only one partition can be bootable |
| 16:58.47 | Drod | 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1551 Dez 10 09:30 passwd |
| 16:58.49 | travlerx | I still don't see /dev/cciss/c0d0p3 |
| 16:59.11 | travlerx | fdisk -l shows it but it's not mapped into /dev/cciss/ |
| 16:59.16 | shomon | did you "su - "? But regular su should work.. wierd |
| 17:00.04 | Drod | adduser: '/usr/sbin/groupadd -g 1008 leandro' retornou código de erro 10. Saindo. |
| 17:00.10 | travlerx | [TheFlash]: root@italy-2:~# pvcreate /dev/cciss/c0d0p |
| 17:00.12 | travlerx | c0d0p1 c0d0p2 c0d0p5 c0d0p6 c0d0p7 c0d0p8 c0d0p9 |
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| 17:00.23 | iLogical | frostschutz, and how much would that be for this given situation? |
| 17:00.26 | frostschutz | iLogical: depends on how you use that machine? also depends if you want to suspend-to-disk or something. I currently have 8GB RAM, 2GB Swap, my next box will have 16GB RAM 0 Swap. Don't make swap too large (unless you want to suspend-to-disk), consider how long it takes to fill/empty the swap part and how slow your system will be. sometimes it's better to let a process die |
| 17:00.36 | [TheFlash] | travlerx: the partitions need to be probed again, try rebooting or using partprobe |
| 17:00.52 | travlerx | rebooting |
| 17:00.58 | travlerx | Thanks [TheFlash] |
| 17:01.01 | travlerx | Check it tomorrow |
| 17:01.07 | travlerx | have a nice evening/day |
| 17:01.09 | Gauntlet | I can't seem to stream videos over my network on squeeze using omx player. Can it be done? |
| 17:01.15 | Drod | adduser: '/usr/sbin/useradd -d /home/leandro -g edmarcos -s /bin/bash -u 1008 leandro' retornou código de erro 1. Saindo. |
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| 17:05.55 | jelly | dpkg, tell Drod about localized errors |
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| 17:17.31 | jhutchins_wk | Drod: running it as root or with sudo? |
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| 17:18.59 | TheGrey | o/ evening all. I'd trying to get my conky transperant. Heres my conkyrc.. http://pastebin.com/FHLr9xbB .Advice? |
| 17:19.21 | yeehi | It has been suggested that packages get ported faster to Arch than to Debian unstable, as Arch is simpler. Any comments on this? I would be interested to hear. |
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| 17:19.47 | passstab | yeehi, that is true |
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| 17:21.56 | [TheFlash] | TheGrey: i use a compositing manager (compiz) and i set own_window_argb_value to 0 in .conkyrc, that should work |
| 17:22.37 | [TheFlash] | TheGrey: also, i use "normal" as the "own_window_type" |
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| 17:44.26 | jelly | shomon: ask your admins to enable IMAP server access, then use that |
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| 17:47.29 | shomon | will try, thanks jelly |
| 17:47.45 | ke-esc | Hi all- I'm trying to set up kerberos with LDAP backend. The howto I've been working off references a krb5_ldap_util command, but I do not have it and cannot find it via apt-file. Anybody know about this? |
| 17:48.00 | shomon | also I've seen http://davmail.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 17:50.44 | ke-esc | doh... im apparently dislexic... kdb5 not krb5... thanks anyway :) |
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| 17:54.34 | Zerobeholder | I have sadness. My apache service works fine with just a plain port 80 virtual host enabled. But when I enable the accompanying port 443 virtual host with similar settings apache refuses to start. That is all fine. I can handle that stuff usually. |
| 17:54.55 | Zerobeholder | My current problem is that the error doesn't seem to be logging so I can hit the google and figure it out for myself. |
| 17:55.52 | Zerobeholder | Any special places to look for the error outside of /var/log/apache2 and /home/username/hostname.tld/logs |
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| 17:56.04 | Zerobeholder | One is the stock location, the other is a location I specified. |
| 17:56.16 | max999 | you could run strace on apache |
| 17:56.34 | Zerobeholder | Thank you. Off to do that. |
| 17:56.44 | max999 | good luck =) |
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| 18:02.47 | Guest23889 | many people is using fvwm? think how you do? |
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| 18:07.52 | jelly | Zerobeholder: have you done a config check? "apache2ctl configtest" |
| 18:07.58 | Drod | i'm have a very big problem with adduser... my /etc/passwd is corrupted and dont write any new user!!!! apologies my englsh |
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| 18:08.27 | jelly | Drod: this was the last question before you disappeared: <jhutchins_wk> Drod: running it as root or with sudo? |
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| 18:08.45 | dsagh | hi there |
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| 18:09.33 | jelly | Drod: please pastebin the output of "ls -la /etc/passwd* /var/backups/passwd*", let's see if you have an older valid backup somewhere perhaps |
| 18:09.47 | ircnode0 | someone know how I can use "dpkg -L" on a .deb-file? |
| 18:10.16 | Zerobeholder | I have not. strace -f -o output.txt /etc/init.d/apache2 start -- gave me all kinds of stuff to look at. trying apache2ctl configtest wouldn't hurt anything though. So why not? |
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| 18:11.53 | bluenemo | anybody around experienced with hetzner.de dedicated server bridged networking? my vm wont get an ip address and manual config doesnt work either. going mad :( |
| 18:12.15 | Zerobeholder | Well, that puts me in a really good spot. apache2: Syntax error on line 268 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 163 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/hostname.tld-ssl: </IfModule> without matching<IfModule> section Action 'configtest' failed. HOWEVER, knowing strace exists is something I am more than happy to know I can turn to. |
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| 18:12.55 | Zerobeholder | jelly++ |
| 18:13.03 | Zerobeholder | ah, bot works different in here. |
| 18:14.09 | jelly | does it? |
| 18:14.16 | jelly | !karma jelly |
| 18:14.16 | dpkg | jelly has karma of 8 |
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| 18:14.23 | jelly | \8/ |
| 18:14.27 | Zerobeholder | how do I increment you here? |
| 18:14.34 | jelly | I think you just did. |
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| 18:14.55 | Zerobeholder | must be just no visible return on completion. |
| 18:14.56 | jelly | jelly-home-- |
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| 18:15.01 | jelly | !karma jelly-home |
| 18:15.01 | dpkg | jelly-home has karma of 5 |
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| 18:16.03 | Drod | jelly http://pastebin.com/JKcQX95Z |
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| 18:17.07 | jelly | Drod: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/passwd ? |
| 18:17.11 | fantastic1 | hi jelly-home |
| 18:17.19 | jelly | hi |
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| 18:17.44 | Drod | http://pastebin.com/96WyCpzt |
| 18:17.45 | fantastic1 | jelly-home r u jelly |
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| 18:17.53 | jelly | yes that's me |
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| 18:18.28 | jelly | Drod: use vipw as root, delete the empty line, do not touch anything else |
| 18:18.58 | Drod | vipw dont save .. create a .edit file |
| 18:19.14 | fantastic1 | do u work strictly work with debian only --- jelly |
| 18:19.21 | jelly | Drod: does it report an error when you try to save and exit? |
| 18:19.24 | fantastic1 | and terminal only |
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| 18:19.54 | jelly | fantastic1: no, I use whichever tool is appropriate for a job, with some preference for Debian. |
| 18:20.32 | Drod | vipw: can't unlock /etc/passwd: Operation not permitted (your changes are still in /etc/passwd.edit) |
| 18:20.35 | fantastic1 | what do you prefer for business hosting automation with debian |
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| 18:20.54 | jelly | Drod: ah. rm /etc/.pwd.lock |
| 18:21.10 | fantastic1 | whmcs/parallels pba/cpanel /openvz |
| 18:21.14 | jelly | Drod: (I think the lock is called that way, might be something similar) |
| 18:21.54 | jelly | fantastic1: no opinion on that, don't have enough experience |
| 18:22.47 | fantastic1 | have u seen flashfxp for debian anywhere |
| 18:22.53 | fantastic1 | jelly |
| 18:23.02 | jelly | please ask the whole channel. |
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| 18:24.24 | Drod | jelly: not work |
| 18:24.39 | jelly | same error message? |
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| 18:24.54 | Drod | yah |
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| 18:25.42 | jelly | Drod: eh. Do it manually then, mv /etc/passwd /etc/passwd.mved && mv /etc/passwd.edit /etc/passwd |
| 18:25.52 | cantoma | hey guys, I have a i915 intel graphic card and I have just installed debian on this pc. Currently my resolution cannot be set higher than 1024x768, accordingly to xrandr. Any ideas how to fix it? |
| 18:26.10 | Drod | operation not allowed |
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| 18:26.51 | jelly | Drod: which command, the first or the second |
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| 18:27.05 | jelly | Drod: add -v to options on each mv |
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| 18:27.42 | DexterF | hi |
| 18:27.42 | Drod | same error |
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| 18:29.01 | jelly | Drod: could be you're not root, your filesystem has errors, or is mounted read-only, or the file has unusual properties. pastebin the outputs of "cat /proc/mounts", "dmesg" and "lsattr /etc/passwd*", all run as root |
| 18:29.15 | jelly | dmesg will be quite long |
| 18:29.20 | cantoma | just for the record this is what is says: http://pastebin.com/H0ER8Qed |
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| 18:29.53 | Zerobeholder | I have reached the end of my tutorial on what I may believe is a falsely hardened debian wheezy upgrade from debian squeeze. --But, on the other side of the coin it may be a truely secure web server setup using chroots SELinux and fpm-pooling with suexec to keep people from exploiting the www-data user to get at other user's resources. |
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| 18:30.15 | tremon | cantoma: pastebin your xorg.conf if applicable, and most recent Xorg.log |
| 18:30.18 | Drod | sec |
| 18:30.22 | cantoma | tremon, http://pastebin.com/tuYYej7E |
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| 18:30.39 | Zerobeholder | It has taken me a few weeks anyone interested in seeing the wall-o-text? |
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| 18:31.05 | Zerobeholder | So far everything is not pretty in favor of 'working'. |
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| 18:32.13 | cantoma | tremon, just to let you know. I have installed the kernel and also xserver from backports as mentioned in here: http://www.debianuserforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1849 |
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| 18:32.19 | Drod | dmesg result show too many entry with SHOREWALL how to exclude this result? |
| 18:32.44 | tremon | cantoma: see the section following "EDID for output VGA1", your display seems to be lying (unless it really doesn't support anything above 1024x768) |
| 18:33.31 | tremon | cantoma: you can try to add a mode manually (xrandr --add-mode iirc), then see if your monitor groks it |
| 18:33.40 | jelly | Zerobeholder: did you write down everything that went wrong during the setup and the reasons for your choices (why selinux, why fpm)? :-) Documenting the pitfalls make the most useful tutorials... |
| 18:33.42 | Zerobeholder | Testing that mysql and other libraries like Imagick work via php. Then also to check the SELinux logs since it has been running in permissive mode. |
| 18:34.01 | cantoma | tremon, it is a 22'' screen it should handle it |
| 18:34.15 | tremon | cantoma: is it a tv or a monitor? |
| 18:34.20 | Zerobeholder | I have the versions and I can go back to look at those choices. Thank you for the suggestion. |
| 18:34.24 | cantoma | tremon, monitor |
| 18:34.36 | cantoma | tremon, some dell .. let me check |
| 18:34.38 | tremon | ok, do you have its specs? |
| 18:35.13 | Drod | jelly: http://pastebin.com/GrUatrVT |
| 18:35.42 | Zerobeholder | Choices like phpmyadmin instead of normal shell access to get at mysql. (Still giving shell access via rssh, but only enabling SFTP for use.) |
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| 18:36.43 | jelly | Drod: ah. See that 'i' flag from lsattr? Read about it in lsattr or chattr manual, and remove it. |
| 18:36.58 | jelly | Drod: then spank your admin |
| 18:37.19 | tremon | Drod: unless (s)he likes that |
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| 18:37.33 | Drod | hahahaha |
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| 18:37.56 | cantoma | tremon, it is this one http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&sku=320-2807 |
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| 18:39.21 | cantoma | tremon, this is the max resolution 1920 x 1080 |
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| 18:40.31 | cantoma | tremon, should i try: xrandr --add-mode 1920x1080 |
| 18:41.12 | tremon | cantoma: there is a good example on how to use addmode and newmode in the xrandr manual (see http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=xrandr) |
| 18:41.40 | tremon | there is no modeline for that yet, so you need to use newmode before addmode will let you |
| 18:42.19 | jagginess | he can try the vesa driver.. perhaps that may be able to detect modelines |
| 18:42.23 | tremon | the arguments to --newmode can be gotten from cvt or gtf |
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| 18:42.56 | tremon | if they work, you should create a screen section in xorg.conf(.d) and add that modeline explicitly |
| 18:43.34 | jelly | Drod: the same person might have chattr'd the shadow file as well |
| 18:43.37 | tremon | however, I've not been able to find much on the net, this seemingly isn't a widespread problem. which input on the monitor are you using? hdmi perchance? |
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| 18:43.57 | cantoma | tremon, it is VGA |
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| 18:44.46 | cantoma | tremon, i have another screen here that i could try |
| 18:44.57 | cantoma | tremon, it has hdmi cable |
| 18:45.22 | tremon | jagginess: see http://pastebin.com/tuYYej7E . I read that as "modelines work, but the screen isn't announcing any resolution above 1024x768". Maybe I'm misreading? |
| 18:45.24 | cantoma | tremon, it is a office so .. there is plenty of choice |
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| 18:46.02 | tremon | cantoma: no, switching to hdmi won't work. I've only seen this problem with tv's and monitors connected through hdmi, vga and dvi should always work |
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| 18:46.21 | cantoma | tremon, just one more think .. the guy that used to use this screen .. 1) uses windows and 2) as far as I know it never changed the resolution beyond 1024 |
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| 18:47.30 | jelly | connect using dvi/hdmi, see what EDID you get then |
| 18:47.37 | jagginess | tremon, it says the inteld driver is being used |
| 18:47.43 | jagginess | ,/intel |
| 18:47.52 | tremon | cantoma: this link (http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=74036) suggests that the proper modeline for that screen is "1920x1080"x60.0 148.50 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync |
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| 18:48.43 | tremon | (although connected through dvi, not vga) |
| 18:48.59 | cantoma | ok i am going to pick the monitor |
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| 18:49.32 | tremon | jagginess: of course, but I see no hint that edid isn't working with the intel driver, which is why I asked |
| 18:49.52 | cantoma | ok it looks the same now |
| 18:50.11 | tremon | cantoma: same? |
| 18:50.27 | cantoma | xrandr says same |
| 18:50.39 | cantoma | should I restart X |
| 18:50.41 | cantoma | ? |
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| 18:51.02 | tremon | cantoma: yeah, for completeness sake |
| 18:51.14 | Slydder | hey all. I am having a problem with an "MPEG sequence, v2, program multiplex" mpg file. everytime I try and view it it hacks like crazy. I am on a Mint system and was wondering if one of you on ubu or mint could take a look and let me know what you think. I know this video works fine in windows/mac but on my mint box it just jumps. on the plus side the audio stream seems to be just perfect. http://stream.itadmins.net:8000/20120731184 |
| 18:51.24 | light_ | in my software updates today for debian squeeze, it removed all of openoffice. any one know what gives? |
| 18:51.35 | Slydder | libreoffice |
| 18:51.55 | cantoma | tremon, i am just disconnect .. i am back in a second |
| 18:52.02 | yeehi | light_ use libre office instead of open office - there is more development there |
| 18:52.11 | yeehi | it is a kind of fork of open office |
| 18:52.24 | Slydder | it is a fork of OO. not kind of. |
| 18:52.29 | tremon | light_: are you sure you're on squeeze? |
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| 18:53.04 | Slydder | and they did it for the exact reason why everyone is leaving OO. |
| 18:53.05 | light_ | tremon yes im very sure |
| 18:53.08 | yeehi | How can Debian be considered free, if all the downloads contain the linux kernel with binary blobs? |
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| 18:53.12 | cantoma | tremon, same here |
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| 18:53.29 | cantoma | tremon, i am going to try "xrandr --newmode "1920x1080" 60.0 148.50 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125" |
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| 18:54.25 | tremon | light_: could you apt-cache policy openoffice.org and paste the output? you can try aptitude why-not openoffice.org, but I don't think it will give something useful |
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| 18:55.26 | DexterF | after a reboot all nfs4 mounts on the client show files to belong to nobody:nobody. on the server owner/perms are ok. client is suse, had some updates but uids/gids did not change. any idea what happened? |
| 18:55.40 | light_ | light@Feistel:~$ apt-cache policy openoffice.org |
| 18:55.40 | light_ | openoffice.org: |
| 18:55.40 | light_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:55.40 | light_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:55.40 | light_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:56.03 | tremon | DexterF: idmapd not running? |
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| 18:56.37 | tremon | !tell light_ about paste |
| 18:56.40 | tremon | sry :) |
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| 18:58.46 | light_ | http://paste.debian.net/223204/ |
| 18:58.51 | light_ | there we go tremon |
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| 18:59.21 | DexterF | tremon: no such daemon there indeed, then again I'm not sure if there ever was. |
| 18:59.52 | tremon | light_: try apt-get -s install openoffice.org and see what it says |
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| 19:00.45 | Zerobeholder | yeehi: in response to your inquiry, you want the #openbsd channel. Their kernel is the only 'mainstream' *nix kernel without any binary blobs. I use the term 'mainstream' lightly. |
| 19:00.52 | cantoma | tremon, so i have done this: http://pastebin.com/HCgZB9Rx |
| 19:00.56 | tremon | DexterF: it's mandatory for nfs4, not sure what effect it has on earlier versions of the protocol |
| 19:00.57 | cantoma | and it looks good |
| 19:01.02 | light_ | tremon no thanks. libre office seems to work :p. In Software Center I tried to install openoffice again and it said there was a software compatibility problem... |
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| 19:01.07 | bitcycle | Hey all. Does debian stable log init.d startup failures at boot-time by default? |
| 19:01.13 | cantoma | tremon, how can I make it permanent? |
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| 19:01.24 | tremon | cantoma: good :) |
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| 19:01.50 | tremon | cantoma: you need to create a monitor section in your xorg.conf that contains the exact modeline you just used |
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| 19:02.03 | DexterF | tremon: oh wait, that's supposed to be running on the *server* - it is there, yes |
| 19:02.39 | tremon | DexterF: idmapd is supposed to be running on both client and server |
| 19:02.42 | Slydder | think the link got chopped. http://stream.itadmins.net:8000/20120731184203.mpg |
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| 19:03.03 | tremon | cantoma: example here: http://curubuntu.binghamton.edu/XORG/example-xorg_conf.html |
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| 19:03.31 | cantoma | tremon, my xorg.conf is not in /etc/X11/ |
| 19:03.32 | DexterF | tremon: hmm. there is a package on the client but it only contains /usr/lib64.. files, nothign like a upstart or init.d script. I'll check on #suse. |
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| 19:03.44 | tremon | cantoma: you can probably leave out anything but the screen and monitor sections, but I'm not 100% sure |
| 19:04.04 | makk | i have an older computer . i am not too fimiliar with alot about computers.. i managed to get to the install base system when it told me to see system log. im assuming i have older hardware is this a possibility . is there an older version i should get |
| 19:04.37 | tremon | cantoma: you're probably running without config. that's fine, just create a file with only the sections you need (monitor and screen I guess) |
| 19:04.43 | makk | should the i386 download work for all computers |
| 19:04.53 | makk | (older |
| 19:04.59 | cantoma | tremon, i will need some baseline file |
| 19:05.09 | cantoma | tremon, can i use the one suggested? |
| 19:05.13 | tremon | cantoma: see the link I gave |
| 19:05.41 | tremon | makk: i386 should work on all pc-compatibles from 1990 and later. how old are we talking? |
| 19:06.23 | makk | its not older than that. im hoping i got the 64 bit accidentally does that sound like the result of that possibility |
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| 19:06.25 | tremon | thinks he is off on the introduction of the pentium by some 5 years |
| 19:07.27 | tremon | makk: the i386 version will install fine on 64-bit machines, but it obviously will not use the newer capabilities |
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| 19:08.02 | makk | good i wish i had my notes with me , i had to go to library to burn another cd. just hoping it isnt the same outcome. later. |
| 19:08.17 | makk | debian-6.0.6-i386-CD-1.iso, does this sound right? |
| 19:08.19 | tremon | makk: if you're not sure, download the multi-arch cd |
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| 19:09.01 | tremon | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.6/multi-arch/iso-cd/ |
| 19:09.50 | tremon | cantoma: http://www.grenage.com/xorg.html has some more explanation |
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| 19:11.29 | makk | is there is difference between cd 1 and cd 53. , just wondering. kinda confusing |
| 19:11.41 | makk | debian-6.0.6-i386-CD-39.iso |
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| 19:12.03 | tremon | there is, every cd contains a different part of the archive |
| 19:12.24 | makk | well i went with multi arch anywayz.. |
| 19:12.35 | makk | cause i dont know what that means |
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| 19:13.00 | tremon | for a normal install you only need the first few CDs, but the installer can download from the 'net too |
| 19:13.20 | tremon | which is why I only use the netinstall discs myself |
| 19:13.31 | makk | okay thats what i was doing. that may be the issue . i wanted netinstall, maybe thats why?? |
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| 19:14.13 | tremon | that's why what? |
| 19:14.22 | makk | will multi arch work without netinstall. ? or should i just get netinstall .. .. for a easy install. |
| 19:15.06 | makk | thanks by the way i know my questions sound dumb, but trying to read a bash script manual shouldnt make anyone fell smart. |
| 19:15.11 | tremon | depends on what's easy for you. If you have a good internet connection netinstall is probably easiest, but if your connection is slow or unreliable CD's may be easier |
| 19:15.31 | cantoma | tremon, the last link looks reall good |
| 19:15.51 | yeehi | i am at a mirror site. I need the i386 gnome live DVD version of squeeze (stable). Where do I navigate to get the iso image? I can't find it in the tree. |
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| 19:16.09 | yeehi | i need ftp not torrent |
| 19:16.46 | tremon | makk: the installation procedure doesn't differ for the netinstall or disc-based installs. The only difference is where it gets the packages from |
| 19:16.51 | Brigo | yeehi: may be it isn't in debian tree. |
| 19:17.05 | yeehi | ooh Brigo ... it is a main mirror site |
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| 19:17.51 | yeehi | can you paste the url for that iso from a main download site, Brigo - i will try and use it to navigate |
| 19:18.01 | tremon | yeehi: current/[arch]/iso-cd/ usually |
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| 19:18.08 | confusid | is there a way to show hard drive space used in eatch / /var /etc... etc.. If you have only 1 partition? |
| 19:18.26 | tremon | confusid: man du |
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| 19:18.38 | Brigo | yeehi: live? |
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| 19:18.54 | yeehi | live one yes brigo |
| 19:18.57 | yeehi | thanks |
| 19:18.59 | Brigo | yeehi: www.debian.org/CD/live/ |
| 19:19.11 | yeehi | thank you Brigo! |
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| 19:20.07 | confusid | tremon: ty |
| 19:20.08 | Seryth | Aw crap. I've broken X |
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| 19:20.20 | Seryth | my primary monitor won't show any res other than 640x480, it's meant to be 1080p. I can't even change it with xrandr... |
| 19:20.38 | Seryth | Running Debian Wheezy. Got an nVidia GPU, just updated and installed nVidia-glx...any ideas? |
| 19:21.55 | confusid | tremon: I had several over done / on my system.. making one partition and after a while will split it back but was using like 2% 4% on most of the things I split out. |
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| 19:22.15 | Brigo | There is a nvidia graphic configuration tool, you could try it. |
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| 19:22.29 | Brigo | Seryth: for you :-) |
| 19:22.42 | Seryth | Brigo: nvidia-settings? |
| 19:22.48 | Seryth | I've tried that. |
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| 19:23.09 | Seryth | I might try manually writing my xorg.conf |
| 19:23.45 | tremon | Seryth: tried running without xorg.conf? |
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| 19:24.58 | Seryth | tremon: Uh, how? |
| 19:25.11 | Brigo | Seryth: gzip the xorg.conf, for example |
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| 19:25.30 | Brigo | Seryth: system will configure a new one automagicaly |
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| 19:26.07 | Seryth | Brigo: Can I just rename it to xorg.conf.bak for instance, then reboot? |
| 19:26.16 | tremon | Seryth: rename it, or gzipping will work too. X will autodetect most settings |
| 19:26.22 | Brigo | yes, you can. |
| 19:26.24 | tremon | only restart X is enough |
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| 19:26.31 | Seryth | Ah cool. |
| 19:26.32 | Seryth | tries |
| 19:26.40 | confusid | What would a good size for a single / be if I want to install not all but close to all packages available? |
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| 19:26.45 | tremon | it will never autodetect the binary driver though |
| 19:26.48 | Seryth | I should've connected in a TTY to IRC, rather than through x. |
| 19:27.25 | tremon | confusid: close to all packages? you mean close to the entire 45G archive? |
| 19:27.29 | confusid | Seryth: cant move it to the background and reattach it in tty? Or are you in a gui? |
| 19:27.41 | Seryth | confusid: GUI :/ |
| 19:28.03 | confusid | tremon: yes, things expand? So was thinking 80GB for the partition |
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| 19:28.31 | mang0_ | Right, in TTY now. |
| 19:28.31 | confusid | Seryth: I like tmux but screen is also widley used. so it's easy to move around and keep something running in a tty. |
| 19:28.35 | mang0_ | Oh |
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| 19:29.06 | Seryth_ | confusid: Yeah, I really need to learn tmux or screen, now I've got a raspberry pi. |
| 19:29.26 | tremon | confusid: 80G could be a good guess, but if you want to install all in one run you need to also be able to store 45GB of downloaded packages in /var/cache |
| 19:29.53 | Seryth_ | Hm, after renaming my xorg.conf, x won't start |
| 19:30.53 | Brigo | confusid: remember you can't install all togethor, there is incompatibilities. |
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| 19:31.11 | Seryth_ | http://paste.debian.net/223312 is my /var/log/Xorg.0.log file, Brigo, confusid |
| 19:31.41 | confusid | Seryth_: if you are in tmux you can open multi windows then use CTRL - D to detach it.. move around then use tmux attach to bring it back up. Screen I've not used. |
| 19:31.41 | Brigo | Seryth_: the paste is empty. |
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| 19:32.02 | Seryth_ | Brigo: Eh?! Uh, hold on |
| 19:32.23 | Seryth_ | http://paste.debian.net/223212 is my /var/log/Xorg.0.log file, Brigo, confusid |
| 19:32.27 | Seryth_ | updated the link ^ |
| 19:32.38 | Seryth_ | I put 223312 instead of 223212 |
| 19:32.43 | Seryth_ | confusid: neat |
| 19:32.50 | confusid | Brigo: yes, I am wanting to make sure I do not need another reinstall or move drive partitions around if not needed. Have a 750GB drive in this machine so I'm not worried about waisting a little space. |
| 19:33.11 | Brigo | Seryth_: [ 1136.894] (EE) [drm] failed to open device |
| 19:33.20 | confusid | tremon: 100GB be better? |
| 19:33.21 | Brigo | you need the nvidia kernel driver, i think |
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| 19:33.37 | Seryth_ | Brigo: Okay, how can I get it? I presume there's a package for it? |
| 19:33.45 | tremon | confusid: plan on 120GB at least |
| 19:33.45 | Brigo | confusid: you can always resize partitions ... |
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| 19:33.59 | Seryth__ | Okay, this client is in tmux |
| 19:33.59 | confusid | Seryth_: I have a pi also with the Raspbian on it. I use tmux only when ssh then forward X when I am wanting a gui. |
| 19:34.03 | Brigo | Seryth_: yes, nvidia-dkms or so. |
| 19:34.21 | confusid | Brigo: I'm bad at moving data around. I end up reinstalling due to something I muggle up. |
| 19:34.24 | confusid | tremon: ty |
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| 19:34.30 | Brigo | Seryth_: |
| 19:34.33 | Brigo | Seryth_: nvidia-kernel-dkms |
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| 19:34.56 | Seryth__ | confusid, Right. I was intending to use VNC to foward X, but I've never used that either! It's going to be a big learning curve. Brigo Ah, thanks! |
| 19:35.30 | confusid | Seryth__: it is a lot easier then you think!! Just read on it and it's easy to get it up and going. |
| 19:35.38 | Seryth__ | Brigo: already installed! |
| 19:36.00 | Seryth__ | confusid: Heh, I hope so - anything I can experiment with now in TTY? Splitting the window or something? |
| 19:36.35 | Brigo | Seryth__: make modprobe nvidia |
| 19:36.57 | Brigo | Seryth__: i mind, writ it. --> modprobe nvidia |
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| 19:37.06 | Brigo | s/writ/write |
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| 19:37.28 | Seryth__ | Brigo: No results |
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| 19:37.58 | Brigo | Seryth__: no errors, do you mean? |
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| 19:38.06 | Seryth__ | Brigo, Uh, yeah, but I still can't startx. |
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| 19:38.57 | Brigo | paste the xorg output agian, please, or search for the error a posted before. |
| 19:39.10 | Brigo | s/agian/again :-) |
| 19:39.43 | confusid | Seryth__: http://elinux.org/RPi_VNC_Server Is what I used to enable the xforwarding for the username of my choice. |
| 19:39.53 | Zerobeholder | Yeah! Everything works great in apache/php5-fpm because I haven't enabled the external processing of php. *sad face* Coming soon. Me being busy. |
| 19:39.58 | Seryth__ | http://paste.debian.org/223216 Brigo |
| 19:40.09 | Seryth__ | Hopefully I got thi link right first :P |
| 19:40.11 | confusid | tmux I use CTRL- C to add multiple screens then us CTRl 1 threw 0 to select that screen. |
| 19:40.14 | Seryth__ | first time* |
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| 19:40.28 | Seryth__ | confusid: I'll check it out when I'm back in x |
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| 19:40.43 | Seryth__ | woops. |
| 19:40.46 | Zerobeholder | fcgid enabled-- not being used. Bah. |
| 19:40.58 | confusid | Seryth__: but if you have questions about the pi best to ask not in here :) Thats kinda off topic here. |
| 19:41.00 | Zerobeholder | I'm on it, just venting publicly. |
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| 19:42.17 | Brigo | Seryth__: [ 1632.787] (II) LoadModule: "nouveau" |
| 19:42.28 | Brigo | are you using nouveau or nvidia? |
| 19:43.08 | Seryth__ | Brigo: I want to use nvidia...why I have nouveau installed is beyond me, I didn't install it. |
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| 19:43.25 | Brigo | remove it: apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
| 19:43.39 | Seryth__ | confusid: sure - do you know if there is a RPi channel? I'm a member on the forums, but IRC is so much funner/better IMO than forums! |
| 19:43.43 | Seryth__ | Brigo: right |
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| 19:45.00 | Seryth__ | Brigo: all gone! |
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| 19:46.21 | confusid | Seryth_ raspberrypi |
| 19:46.36 | Brigo | Seryth__: driver ploblems, so :-) |
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| 19:46.48 | confusid | mix of raspbian and other os's for it. |
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| 19:47.32 | Seryth_ | Brigo: alrighty, I guess now I just gotta try starting x again? |
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| 19:50.13 | TuxOtaku | hey guys, I have an old Power Mac G5 that I recently installed Debian on. I was wondering, I've seen some documentation that suggests Xen can run on PPC, is this true? |
| 19:50.24 | TuxOtaku | and if so, can XCP run on PPC as well? |
| 19:50.59 | Seryth_ | Brigo: Well, the good thing is taht X starts now. The bad thing is that I've got the exact same problem as before, with the res being stupidly low on my monitor. |
| 19:51.03 | Seryth_ | that* |
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| 19:52.15 | dondelelcaro | TuxOtaku: it did at one point, but I'm not sure if ever got out of the testing phase. |
| 19:52.33 | dondelelcaro | TuxOtaku: I'd certainly not suggest spending any time with it unless it's a modern power machine. |
| 19:52.41 | Brigo | Seryth_: err, paste xorg output again, please? |
| 19:52.53 | Seryth_ | Sure |
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| 19:53.42 | TuxOtaku | dondelelcaro: what about KVM? |
| 19:53.53 | Seryth_ | Brigo: http://paste.debian.com/223224 |
| 19:53.56 | Seryth_ | Or is it .org |
| 19:54.03 | Seryth_ | either way, the paste number is 223224. |
| 19:54.12 | dondelelcaro | TuxOtaku: dunno. Probably not |
| 19:54.13 | Seryth_ | An it's .net |
| 19:54.15 | Brigo | .net :-D |
| 19:54.18 | Seryth_ | :P |
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| 19:54.35 | Seryth_ | confusid: Right, gonna attempt to connect to this TTY with tmux now! |
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| 19:55.32 | waynr | howdy folks |
| 19:55.37 | Brigo | Seryth_: do you have another xorg.conf in /etc/X11 ? |
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| 19:56.01 | waynr | when i run "ifup <interface>" that is set to static, i get "RTNETLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address" |
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| 19:56.31 | waynr | this is an interface running inside of a Xen virtual machine |
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| 19:57.12 | Seryth_ | Brigo: yes |
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| 19:57.21 | Seryth_ | Want to see that too? |
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| 19:58.13 | Seryth_ | Brigo: http://paste.debian.net/223227 |
| 19:58.24 | Seryth_ | that's /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 19:59.00 | cantoma | tremon, after a reboot all the text fontsize seems to be huge now .. the resolution is fine |
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| 20:00.14 | cantoma | tremon, it must have decided that I need glasses .. or what else |
| 20:00.27 | tremon | cantoma: you can probably correct this from within your DE. Look for dpi settings |
| 20:00.44 | Brigo | Seryth_: move it and retry start X, please. |
| 20:00.48 | cantoma | tremon, i am using wmaker |
| 20:00.49 | Seryth_ | Arite. |
| 20:01.18 | tremon | alternatively, I believe there is a way to set the physical screen size in xorg.conf too |
| 20:01.24 | Brigo | cantoma: wmaker! from the very old time! :-D |
| 20:01.38 | cantoma | Brigo, it works :) |
| 20:01.48 | cantoma | but now everything is huge |
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| 20:01.54 | Seryth_ | Brigo: it won't start |
| 20:02.29 | Brigo | well, paste X... etc .. |
| 20:02.32 | tremon | cantoma: see man xorg.conf, DisplaySize |
| 20:02.34 | Seryth_ | righty ho |
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| 20:03.17 | Seryth_ | Brigo, this is my Xorg.0.log http://paste.debian.net/223228 |
| 20:03.20 | cantoma | tremon, this is what I have setup http://pastebin.com/dpcGkNJw |
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| 20:03.42 | cantoma | tremon, i didn't know what to put in HorizSync and VertRefresh |
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| 20:04.08 | tremon | cantoma: it's fine, you don't really need it if you're using explicit modelines |
| 20:04.33 | cantoma | tremon, so now fontsize .. what is it causing it? |
| 20:04.42 | Brigo | Seryth_: have you installed nvidia-glx? |
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| 20:04.54 | cantoma | tremon, the chromium look to be the only one ok |
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| 20:05.05 | cantoma | tremon, the rest .. even konsole is huge |
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| 20:05.33 | Seryth_ | Brigo: yes |
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| 20:05.53 | Seryth_ | Brigo: nvidia-glx is newest version already. |
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| 20:07.21 | cantoma | tremon, is it possible to force the default to be 1920x1080? |
| 20:07.23 | Seryth_ | Brigo: Would it worked if I purged everything x related, and then reinstalled xorg server? |
| 20:07.33 | cantoma | because in the beginning it went to 1024x768 |
| 20:07.42 | tremon | cantoma: option PreferredMode |
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| 20:08.42 | Brigo | Seryth_: i think you have a new xorg.conf already, if not copy it from backup and modify it: |
| 20:09.48 | Seryth_ | Brigo: there isn't a new xorg.conf in /etc/X11/ |
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| 20:10.25 | cantoma | tremon, do you think i should add Option "DPMS"? |
| 20:10.26 | jirka_on_d | hello all, how do I install package from experimental when on testing (7.0) please? I need to install fglrx-legacy-driver for ATI RV630 [Mobility Radeon HD 2600] card |
| 20:10.40 | tremon | cantoma: iirc dpms defaults to "on" |
| 20:10.52 | cantoma | ok |
| 20:11.00 | Brigo | Seryth_: so copy it from previus backup, and look for Section "Device" Identifier "Device0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation" |
| 20:11.03 | Brigo | EndSection |
| 20:11.10 | jhutchin1_wk | jirka_on_d: Don't. |
| 20:11.12 | Seryth_ | Got it, Brigo |
| 20:11.23 | Brigo | Sorry for pasting, a mistake.. |
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| 20:11.34 | Seryth_ | Heh, well I've found that part |
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| 20:11.41 | jhutchin1_wk | jirka_on_d: If you must have it, backport it, but it probably has impractical dependencies. |
| 20:11.46 | cantoma | tremon, i am rebooting X |
| 20:11.48 | linduxed | i've noticed that there doesn't seem to be a command that adds bothe the user to samba and to the system, with the same password |
| 20:11.50 | Brigo | look for Driver "nvidia" |
| 20:12.03 | Brigo | is there such line? |
| 20:12.06 | linduxed | is there some script needed for this, or have i missed a command? |
| 20:12.15 | Seryth_ | Brigo: there is indeed |
| 20:12.54 | jirka_on_d | jhutchins_wk> please be more specific. now I use radeon, but it's "fan hog" |
| 20:13.07 | Brigo | then start X and paste the xorg log output, please. |
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| 20:13.35 | Brigo | i want to know if X are using the nividia driver ... |
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| 20:14.32 | jhutchins_wk | jirka_on_d: Experimental packages are not intended for ordinary users, and mixing releases is a good way to get to a clean install. |
| 20:14.44 | jirka_on_d | jhutchins_wk>I mean there's reported problem with too much heat when using radeon module |
| 20:15.17 | Seryth_ | http://paste.debian.net/223230 Brigo :) |
| 20:15.18 | tremon | cantoma: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#Display_Size_and_DPI is quite informative on display sizes and dpi |
| 20:15.26 | jirka_on_d | jhutchins_wk>I know, but I don't know how to backport it |
| 20:16.01 | zykotick9 | jirka_on_d: for basic backport directions, see "/msg dpkg ssb" |
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| 20:16.10 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions xserver-xorg-video-radeon |
| 20:16.11 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-video-radeon on i386 -- lenny: 1:6.9.0-1+lenny4; squeeze: 1:6.13.1-2+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 1:6.14.2-1~bpo60+1; sid: 1:6.14.4-5; wheezy: 1:6.14.4-5 |
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| 20:16.42 | jhutchins_wk | jirka_on_d: Ok, used to supporting stable, it's not a different xorg. |
| 20:17.05 | jhutchins_wk | I forget that we're frozen as well... |
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| 20:17.32 | jhutchins_wk | jirka_on_d: You could just download it from packages.debian.org and install it. |
| 20:17.37 | Brigo | Seryth_: [ 3770.332] (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1920 x 1024 <-- that is your real resolution. |
| 20:17.39 | cantoma | tremon, all perfect now .. brilliant .. thanks for the help |
| 20:17.55 | Zerobeholder | you guys happen to know where the php5-fpm socket is when it is created or where I would set that? |
| 20:18.23 | Zerobeholder | in the context of debian... doesn't seem to be in the stock location... |
| 20:18.30 | Seryth_ | Brigo: aha! How can I fiddle that then? (Brb in a few mins, got to have dinner - I'll let you know when I get back). Thanks for the help Brigo! |
| 20:18.33 | Seryth_ | brb. |
| 20:18.53 | Brigo | Seryth_: i think now you can configure it with some configure graphical tool. |
| 20:18.59 | jirka_on_d | zykotick9> thank you |
| 20:19.00 | jirka_on_d | jhutchins_wk> now I'm not sure. Do you mean fglrx-driver or xserver-xorg-video-radeon? |
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| 20:20.21 | Zerobeholder | fcgid socket possibly... |
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| 20:25.40 | yeehi | Will Debian run using the linux-libre kernel? Surely it will! It isn't mentioned here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-compat.en.html#s-kernels |
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| 20:26.12 | jirka_on_d | according to this: http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#Supported_Devices support for R600 family was dropped in fglrx-driver 1:12-6~beta-1 and is supported in the forementioned fglrx-legacy-driver which is present only in experimental so I'm a bit confused ... |
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| 20:26.35 | tremon | jirka_on_d: confused about what? |
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| 20:26.56 | jirka_on_d | tremon: what should I install :) |
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| 20:27.36 | jhutchins_wk | jirka_on_d I was looking at the versionf of xorg on sid and on wheezy. They're the same, so you don't have to backport the whole suite. |
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| 20:28.20 | tremon | jirka_on_d: what card do you have? |
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| 20:28.46 | jhutchins_wk | jirka_on_d: You could add sid and experimental repositories, update, install -t experimental, or you could just download it from packages.debian.org/experimental and install it. |
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| 20:29.38 | jirka_on_d | tremon: ATI RV630 [Mobility Radeon HD 2600] [1002:9581] |
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| 20:31.11 | tremon | jirka_on_d: there isn't much to choose from for that card if you're on wheezy -- it's either the x.org radeon driver or fglrx-legacy |
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| 20:32.22 | jirka_on_d | tremon: well i know, but fglrx-legacy is only in experimental repository if I read it right |
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| 20:33.17 | jhutchins_wk | ,versionx fglrx-legacy |
| 20:33.25 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions fglrx-legacy |
| 20:33.26 | judd | No package named 'fglrx-legacy' was found in i386. |
| 20:33.37 | jirka_on_d | .versions fglrx-legacy-driver |
| 20:33.58 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions xserver-xorg-video-fglrx-legacy |
| 20:33.59 | judd | No package named 'xserver-xorg-video-fglrx-legacy' was found in i386. |
| 20:34.09 | jirka_on_d | ,versions fglrx-legacy-driver |
| 20:34.10 | judd | Package: fglrx-legacy-driver on i386 -- experimental/non-free: 8.97.100.3+1-1 |
| 20:34.28 | tremon | yeah that one :| |
| 20:34.40 | jhutchins_wk | !congratulate jirka_on_d |
| 20:34.40 | dpkg | Yay jirka_on_d, you did it! |
| 20:34.55 | tremon | ,i fglrx-legacy-driver |
| 20:34.56 | judd | No package named 'fglrx-legacy-driver' was found in squeeze/i386. |
| 20:35.19 | tremon | ,i fglrx-legacy-driver --release experimental |
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| 20:35.20 | judd | Package fglrx-legacy-driver (non-free/x11, extra) in experimental/i386: non-free ATI/AMD RadeonHD display driver (legacy). Version: 8.97.100.3+1-1; Size: 9032.0k; Installed: 24274k; Homepage: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeon_linux.aspx |
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| 20:35.43 | tremon | jirka_on_d: be aware that the package is marked as rc_buggy though |
| 20:36.14 | cra1g321 | it's fglrx-driver for squeeze, fglrx-legacy-driver is in experimental |
| 20:36.17 | jirka_on_d | thank you, thank you, you're great and I love you all (I mean it), but what's the best way to install it on wheezy |
| 20:36.18 | tremon | (or maybe that's normal for experimental packages) |
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| 20:36.57 | tremon | jirka_on_d: jhutchins_wk already said how, edit sources.list, update, and apt-get -t experimental install $pkg |
| 20:37.20 | Seryth_ | Brigo: 'ello, I've returned |
| 20:37.43 | jhutchins_wk | jirka_on_d: Or just download it and install it, I think that's simpler. |
| 20:38.19 | tremon | I think it's not self-contained, there's probably dependencies between the driver and libfglrx and/or other experimental packages |
| 20:38.31 | jirka_on_d | tremon and jhutchins_wk: ok, thank you and sorry, sometimes i feel quite dumb ... |
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| 20:39.02 | tremon | jirka_on_d: no need, we usually have a reason to be very reluctant about telling users how to potentially break their setup |
| 20:39.23 | jirka_on_d | tremon: I think so at least according to this http://packages.debian.org/experimental/fglrx-legacy-driver |
| 20:39.40 | Seryth_ | Brigo: Damn, nvidia-settings doesn't seem to like that primary monitor. |
| 20:39.52 | Seryth_ | It's still only allowing 640x480 |
| 20:40.16 | jirka_on_d | anyway I'm not going to buy anything with ATI card anymore ..... |
| 20:40.42 | jirka_on_d | jhutchins_wk and tremon: thanks again |
| 20:41.56 | jirka_on_d | by the way, would anybody know when enlightenment 17.0 packages find their way to the 7.0 repositories? |
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| 20:43.03 | tremon | jirka_on_d: don't hold your breath. a pre-release of e17 is already in wheezy, but I don't think the official release qualifies as rc material. maybe it will appear in backports |
| 20:43.19 | tremon | but that won't happen until after the release |
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| 20:43.32 | tremon | release of wheezy, that is |
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| 20:44.31 | jirka_on_d | I see, thank you |
| 20:44.32 | Seryth_ | confusid: How do I connect to this TTY (running tmux) from x? |
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| 20:48.22 | dawud | Seryth_: in screen, I'd issue 'screen -d -r' or similar, that is, detach and reattach, tmux provides similar features, for sure |
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| 20:48.48 | dawud | Seryth_: from a terminal emulator in X, that is |
| 20:48.54 | johndoe | how should i partition my 1TB external harddisk? should i put everything in one extended partition? |
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| 20:50.23 | dawud | johndoe: it depends on what are you going to use for, I guess |
| 20:50.35 | johndoe | storage mostly, big files |
| 20:50.47 | johndoe | music, photos, videos |
| 20:51.02 | Seryth_ | dawud: tmux -t 0 was all I needed, thanks :) |
| 20:51.09 | dawud | johndoe: I usually use a VGs/LVs layout, for easy management |
| 20:51.15 | Seryth_ | This is pretty neat. |
| 20:51.15 | cra1g321 | why a extended partition ? if there's only going 2 be one, why not use a primary partition |
| 20:51.21 | dawud | Seryth_: glad to be helpful |
| 20:51.24 | johndoe | dawud: what is that? |
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| 20:51.45 | dawud | johndoe: LVM2, logical volumes |
| 20:53.54 | fantastic1 | can some1 advise on setting up cpanel/whmcs / openvz or parallel pbas |
| 20:54.00 | fantastic1 | which is preferred |
| 20:54.11 | fantastic1 | working on debian |
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| 20:56.12 | DammitJim | is there no support for ia32-libs in amd64 wheezy currently |
| 20:56.16 | DammitJim | ? |
| 20:56.55 | cra1g321 | http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO |
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| 20:59.11 | Arrowmaster | Aleksander: the linux-image-* packages |
| 20:59.25 | Aleksander | and what are kernel-images? |
| 20:59.58 | Arrowmaster | the kernel that the bootloader loads |
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| 21:00.26 | sebas-89 | Hi, I have a problem too much time, my Debian 6 can't reboot. |
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| 21:01.07 | sebas-89 | close my session, and show signs of do it but reload the GDM3. |
| 21:01.20 | sebas-89 | may be is a driver |
| 21:01.22 | sebas-89 | any idea? |
| 21:01.47 | sebas-89 | but I can shut down perfectly. |
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| 21:02.21 | jhutchins_wk | sebas-89: Your question is not clear, but you should be able to reboot from gdm. |
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| 21:02.49 | jirka_on_d | heh, fglrx does not support 3.7 kernel :|, so now I'm not sure whether to install 3.6.x kernel or return to the radeon driver |
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| 21:03.55 | sebas-89 | jhutchins_wk: would do difference? |
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| 21:08.08 | Jef91 | anyone know where the asound.state file for alsa is stored on Debian wheezy? On Ubuntu it is stored in /etc normally |
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| 21:08.30 | jhutchins_wk | Jef91: locate asound.state? |
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| 21:09.26 | jirka_on_d | Jef91>/var/lib/alsa/asound.state |
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| 21:10.07 | jirka_on_d | but used find / -type f -name "asound.state" -print though |
| 21:10.20 | ernst_ | why got openvz dropped in wheezy? |
| 21:10.26 | ampharos | Asked this yesterday, didn't get a response: Can I dual-boot Windows 8 and Debian 6? (this is a BIOS system, no UEFI and it's babbage) |
| 21:10.29 | ernst_ | thats not funny ;_; |
| 21:10.48 | ampharos | i thought everyone loathed OpenVZ |
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| 21:11.17 | ernst_ | no, some people do use it |
| 21:11.44 | ampharos | i've heard nothing but horror stories |
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| 21:13.14 | ernst_ | hm, okay, i'll use alien to install the RHEL version |
| 21:13.25 | ernst_ | but i still don't understand the decision |
| 21:14.25 | ernst_ | ヽ(´ー｀)ノ |
| 21:19.20 | jhutchins_wk | jirka_on_d: So pretty clearly that file does not exist. |
| 21:20.22 | jhutchins_wk | ampharos: We can't be sure of all the visictitudes of Windows 8 yet - too little experience - but generally yes, you should be able to. As usual, install Windows first. |
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| 21:21.24 | jhutchins_wk | jirka_on_d: asound.state is created when alsa shuts down. If it hasn't shut down, it probably doesn't exist. |
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| 21:22.15 | musca | ampharos: disable hibernation in windows 8 |
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| 21:22.37 | hellyeah | hey |
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| 21:23.04 | hellyeah | i have two questions. First of all how can i make sure my os use proper graphic card driver. My graphic card is nvidia. |
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| 21:24.13 | sebas-89 | hi |
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| 21:25.43 | sebas-89 | I can't reboot, but i can turn off my Debian 6 |
| 21:25.46 | sebas-89 | any idea? |
| 21:25.57 | wols | what happens on shutdown -r now ? |
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| 21:26.19 | monaco | sebas-89: did u tried by terminal typping reboot |
| 21:26.58 | musca | hellyeah: which model is your card? |
| 21:27.10 | Arrowmaster | did you maybe install from some livecd? i wonder if kexec is installed |
| 21:27.30 | sebas-89 | monaco: almost always I turn off with bash |
| 21:27.34 | sebas-89 | "sudo halt" |
| 21:27.57 | sebas-89 | same result |
| 21:28.04 | monaco | sebas-89: aha |
| 21:28.10 | sebas-89 | sory, "sudo reboot" |
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| 21:29.36 | Ryan | Have you tried calling init(6)? |
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| 21:31.17 | sebas-89 | Guest72192: to me? |
| 21:31.28 | sebas-89 | no, i don't know it |
| 21:31.37 | Guest72192 | do /sbin/init 6 |
| 21:31.38 | Guest72192 | as root |
| 21:31.39 | Guest72192 | it should reboot |
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| 21:32.42 | Seryth | Hey all. I'm having massive problems with dual monitor stuff in Linux. (Debian). My primary monitor, 1920x1080 is coming up as 640x480...secondary is fine, 1280x1024. Any help appreciated. I use an nVidia GPU, and the nVidia-glx driver package. |
| 21:32.58 | Seryth | NB, I can't even change the res with xrandr or nvidia-settings. |
| 21:33.20 | sebas-89 | Guest72192: Thanks, i wille try. |
| 21:33.25 | sebas-89 | *will |
| 21:33.25 | hellyeah | musca: nvidia gt425m |
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| 21:33.48 | Guest72192 | sebas-89 if that won't work there's something very wrong with your setup |
| 21:33.52 | musca | !tell hellyeah about nvidia dkms |
| 21:34.57 | sebas-89 | Guest72192: setup? |
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| 21:35.19 | hellyeah | i want official driver btw |
| 21:35.20 | sebas-89 | when i installed Debian? |
| 21:35.45 | Guest72192 | I am referring to your whole debian installation |
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| 21:37.48 | musca | hellyeah: yes, it's packaged right for you in the non-free repo |
| 21:38.17 | sebas-89 | Guest72192: in the beginning i could reboot. |
| 21:38.19 | jhutchins_wk | jirka_on_d: On my system it's in /var/lib/alsa |
| 21:38.20 | hellyeah | like nvidia-driver should i follow the ways bot told me? |
| 21:38.42 | sebas-89 | if my memory don't fail |
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| 21:39.01 | jhutchins_wk | !es |
| 21:39.01 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 21:39.41 | sebas-89 | jhutchins_wk: leave me alone |
| 21:40.08 | jhutchins_wk | sebas-89: Public channel dude. |
| 21:40.24 | jhutchins_wk | sebas-89: Is it hanging on shutdown or do you not have the option to reboot? |
| 21:41.13 | sebas-89 | no, my Debian has the two options... |
| 21:41.26 | sebas-89 | I can turn off perfectly |
| 21:41.33 | sebas-89 | but I can't reboot never |
| 21:41.36 | musca | hellyeah: yes, you can copy and paste the command into a root-shell |
| 21:41.58 | sebas-89 | when i try to reboot, Debian close my session anda reload GDM |
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| 21:42.20 | sebas-89 | jhutchins_wk: understand me? |
| 21:42.59 | hellyeah | hmm okey |
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| 21:44.39 | jhutchins_wk | I think so. |
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| 21:45.14 | jhutchins_wk | sebas-89: Gnome? squeeze or wheezy? |
| 21:45.31 | sebas-89 | jhutchins_wk: Gnome 2 on Squeeze. |
| 21:45.42 | sebas-89 | i've the kernel 2.6 and 3.2 |
| 21:45.50 | sebas-89 | no way |
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| 21:46.34 | jhutchins_wk | sebas-89: so did init 6 work? |
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| 21:47.03 | sebas-89 | jhutchins_wk: I didn't yet. |
| 21:47.15 | sebas-89 | but i remember it, i can't reboot now. |
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| 21:49.00 | jhutchins_wk | sebas-89: What are you doing to reboot? |
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| 21:50.38 | jhutchins_wk | sebas-89: I didn't understand if sudo reboot was still working. |
| 21:51.18 | sebas-89 | jhutchins_wk: sudo reboot never works... |
| 21:51.30 | sebas-89 | it's the same to try reboot from gnome-panel |
| 21:51.35 | sebas-89 | understand me? |
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| 21:51.46 | sebas-89 | always reload the kernel and GDM |
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| 21:52.40 | jhutchins_wk | sebas-89: What about if you switch to a console and try to reboot? |
| 21:52.47 | dawud | the _kernel_ and GDM? |
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| 21:53.18 | dawud | to "reload" the kernel you need to actually reboot :/ |
| 21:53.36 | sebas-89 | jhutchins_wk: I tried that, don't works. |
| 21:53.36 | jhutchins_wk | oops. |
| 21:53.46 | jhutchins_wk | sebas-89: What did it display? |
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| 21:54.27 | sebas-89 | dawud: ok, may be you're right, but in tty1, say "Loading new kernel" |
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| 21:54.39 | sebas-89 | and GDM3 restart |
| 21:55.13 | jhutchins_wk | sebas-89: Sounds like a reboot to me. |
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| 21:55.19 | dawud | indeed |
| 21:55.24 | dawud | check uptime |
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| 21:57.26 | hellyeah | another question |
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| 21:57.38 | hellyeah | is there a command in debian to conver mp4 or flv to mp3 |
| 21:57.52 | dawud | hellyeah: try ffmpeg |
| 21:58.07 | pythonsnake | http://ix.io/3Vr |
| 21:58.09 | pythonsnake | what's happening |
| 21:58.19 | dawud | hellyeah: what you do is extracting mp3 from mp4 |
| 21:58.43 | hellyeah | song |
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| 22:03.08 | huglester | !tell me about release sheadule |
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| 22:04.43 | huglester | !tell me about release schedule |
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| 22:06.29 | huglester | good eveninig abrotman. Could you please remind me on how to preview the guesses for the release dates? |
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| 22:09.48 | zykotick9 | hellyeah: re: mp4/flv->mp3 i'm suggesting a two step process here. "mplayer -vo null -ao pcm foo" to get a WAV dump of the video, then encode that... |
| 22:10.52 | jirka_on_d | jhutchins_wk>regarding that asound.state file you were right of course i had to issue the command in the terminal sshed to another computer and did not notice it |
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| 22:11.53 | huglester | How do I view release date guesses for squeeze? |
| 22:12.11 | hellyeah | encode how |
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| 22:13.12 | zykotick9 | hellyeah: well, IMO mp3 is non-optimal. but lame should work for WAV->MP3. |
| 22:13.48 | SkAzZ | Hello, I have made a stupid mistake with my Apache config and anyone visiting the ip address/default hostname can access anything in /var/www/ ... Where do I fix this? I have tried adding deny's but that messes up all of my other websites... |
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| 22:14.25 | hellyeah | zykotick9: can you suggesty some link for that |
| 22:14.54 | hellyeah | how to mp4 to wav |
| 22:15.06 | hellyeah | then how to wav to mp3 seems ok |
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| 22:16.57 | zykotick9 | hellyeah: mp4->wav "mplayer -ao pcm -vo null foo.mp4" should create an audiodump.wav (or similar name), then install lame, and use something like "lame audiodump.wav" to WAV->MP3 [you might want more options for lame: bitrate for instance] |
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| 22:18.56 | hellyeah | hmm |
| 22:18.56 | hellyeah | thanks for information |
| 22:19.01 | huglester | !tell me about squeeze release date |
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| 22:21.14 | zykotick9 | huglester: squeeze is already out, see "/msg dpkg squeeze" - is it wheezy you're wanting to know about? and use "/msg dpkg foo" to get messages privately. |
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| 22:24.59 | jhutchins_wk | SkAzZ: I'm thinking you might want to set the default document root to /var/www/html or something else. |
| 22:26.50 | jhutchins_wk | hell_razer: ffmpeg should be able to transcode directly. See it's extensive documentation for details. |
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| 22:27.36 | zykotick9 | jhutchins_wk: too bad it was hellyeah that wanted the info ;) |
| 22:28.06 | jhutchins_wk | Yep, good ol' tab completion. |
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| 22:29.40 | dado_ | hi |
| 22:30.42 | dado_ | did i discover correctly that squeeze, wheezy AND sid are not able to create an AES live encrpypted image using live-helper or live-config ? |
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| 22:33.04 | Tejp | How would one go about if they wanted to start the computer and get logged in automatically? |
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| 22:33.34 | Tejp | I don't want to enter my password every time I start the computer. |
| 22:33.53 | zykotick9 | Tejp: pretty sure that's a feature of every DM available: GDM,KDM,etc. |
| 22:33.56 | dado_ | Tejp: depends on your desktop environment and displaymanager. if ur using gnome try /etc/gdm/gdm.comf |
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| 22:34.08 | Tejp | Aight, thanks, I'll try! |
| 22:34.10 | dado_ | conf, that is |
| 22:34.10 | zykotick9 | Tejp: maybe not XDM ;) |
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| 22:36.12 | Tejp | I found one, in /gdm3/daemon.conf it says I have autologin enabled. |
| 22:36.34 | Tejp | But I still have to enter my password, but I am loading up the desktop in the background. |
| 22:36.43 | dado_ | yeh and somewhere there is an value for that auto username |
| 22:36.50 | dado_ | u need to change that too |
| 22:37.30 | Tejp | It has the right username. :( |
| 22:37.43 | dado_ | well then ur fucked |
| 22:37.50 | dado_ | :) |
| 22:38.03 | zykotick9 | Tejp: ahh, that's probably the keyring password for wireless networking most likely. to avoid that password, you can a) not use autologin b) save wireless setting insecurly |
| 22:38.29 | Tejp | I don't worry that much about the security as of now. |
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| 22:38.50 | zykotick9 | Tejp: asking for auto-login, that fact is obvious. |
| 22:38.58 | Tejp | Go figure. :D |
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| 22:39.33 | Tejp | So, I guess it might be in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 22:39.46 | dado_ | nah man |
| 22:39.57 | zykotick9 | Tejp: no, it's keyring related. sorry i don't know the steps you must take. |
| 22:40.04 | dado_ | read what zykotick9 said |
| 22:40.34 | dado_ | is timed login enabled in the gdm conf ? |
| 22:40.42 | Tejp | Lemma check |
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| 22:40.53 | Tejp | It has my username. |
| 22:40.57 | Tejp | False. |
| 22:41.01 | dado_ | ok |
| 22:41.07 | dado_ | hm that should be ok then |
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| 22:41.13 | Tejp | Should be wireless then. |
| 22:41.18 | dado_ | i guess |
| 22:41.21 | Tejp | I'll google it then. |
| 22:41.23 | Tejp | Thanks anyway |
| 22:41.34 | dado_ | u can clear your keyring passwd |
| 22:41.37 | dado_ | google that |
| 22:41.50 | dado_ | its a rm command |
| 22:42.12 | dado_ | yw |
| 22:42.45 | dado_ | nobody using live-helper here? seems to be broken in all 3 archs |
| 22:44.15 | nmschulte | How can I check if KMS is working properly? |
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| 22:46.43 | Tejp | dado_, It only reset the password. It still prompts me, and I seems like it wasn't the wifi after all. Since that prompt ALSO came up, due to me deleting all keyrings. |
| 22:46.48 | nmschulte | babilen: markovh: the mirror: scheme allows apt-get (says stackoverflow) to pick the best mirror from a list of multiple mirror: repositories in sources.list. |
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| 22:47.13 | dado_ | cancel the prompt Tejp |
| 22:47.19 | dado_ | and choose for insecure storage |
| 22:47.52 | markovh | nmschulte: link |
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| 22:48.08 | markovh | i see no documented record of this |
| 22:49.17 | nmschulte | http://askubuntu.com/questions/37753/how-can-i-get-apt-to-use-a-mirror-close-to-me-or-choose-a-faster-mirror |
| 22:49.25 | nmschulte | sorry, it was "askubuntu" not stackoverflow |
| 22:50.03 | zykotick9 | nmschulte: you might want to see <http.debian.net> and/or <cdn.debian.net> for an automatic repository system(s) |
| 22:50.35 | nmschulte | zykotick9: Yeah, I mentioned that in my initial query; it's way back though. |
| 22:50.47 | mattgyver | Ive installed gnome-shell from the experimental repo and when updating to the latestone of the depends (libtelepathy-logger3) does not appear to exist as a package and apt reports it is not installable when trying to upgrade gnome-shell. Whats the best practice for handling something like this you just have to install the missing depend directly from source? |
| 22:51.06 | nmschulte | I was having issues with the http.debian.net redirector last time I used it; I think it was when I tried with unstable or with experimental? I can't remember. |
| 22:52.15 | zykotick9 | nmschulte: i've personally had issues with http.debian.net as well, thus i use cdn.debian.net (added bonus, cdn.debian.net is listed as option in intial install) |
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| 22:53.38 | nmschulte | I just used netselect-apt to find a close mirror; tds.net proves itself yet again |
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| 22:54.01 | jhutchins_wk | mattgyver: Welcome to experimental. What part of "broken" didn't you understand when you enabled it? |
| 22:54.48 | cardamon | dist-upgrade failed on one of my machines. "dpkg: error processing initscripts (--configure):" |
| 22:54.48 | jhutchins_wk | mattgyver: Yes, you'll either have to build your own deb of the lib or wait for someone to get around to uploading it. |
| 22:55.14 | cardamon | oh, and autoremove is feeling a little handsy again. Want's to remove wicd |
| 22:56.43 | cardamon | http://paste.debian.net/223271/ |
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| 22:58.06 | mattgyver | jhutchins_wk, yeah its made pretty clear things will break or just flat not work I was just looking for some advice from the community so I can try to truck through when things like this occur |
| 22:58.28 | cardamon | googles and waits with all due patience |
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| 22:59.53 | zykotick9 | mattgyver: you might want to review <experimental>, and the "DON'T INSTALL..", and the "not supported in #debian" parts. ;) good luck man. |
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| 23:01.19 | cardamon | http://paste.debian.net/223272/ apt-get -f install didn't fair any better. |
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| 23:03.30 | cardamon | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=77744 This looks similar. |
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| 23:05.05 | cardamon | ...except no, /etc/motd is not a symlink on this one. |
| 23:05.14 | cardamon | ...I am confused then. |
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| 23:05.58 | pagesa | >/connect irc.7chan.org |
| 23:05.58 | cardamon | could use a helping hand |
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| 23:09.28 | cardamon | ...everyone at dinner? |
| 23:10.16 | cardiel | is it possible to use dotdeb repo for testing? |
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| 23:11.01 | Tejp | Hey, it's me agian, with the auto login problem, would getting a new desktop environment solve the problem? |
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| 23:12.49 | zykotick9 | cardiel: dotdeb isn't a great idea. see <dotdeb> ("/msg dpkg dotdeb" in irc) for details. |
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| 23:18.27 | cardiel | zykotick9: ok, i saw that dotdeb uses nginx 1.2.6 and testing just 1.2.1 , but i will use 1.2.1 for now then |
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| 23:27.51 | spaceace85 | How can I count the number of PDF documents in a directory, including subdirectories? |
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| 23:29.33 | zykotick9 | spaceace85: "find ./ -iname \*.pdf | wc -l" MIGHT work... |
| 23:29.35 | daimrod | spaceace85: find + wc |
| 23:29.58 | spaceace85 | thanks guys |
| 23:30.01 | spaceace85 | i'll check it out |
| 23:30.22 | daimrod | or find + file + wc |
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| 23:36.13 | Tramp | spaceace85: http://tramp.mm.st/count-the-results-of-a-find.txt |
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| 23:37.16 | daimrod | Tramp: why is the second version more efficient? |
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| 23:37.38 | Tramp | daimrod: which "second version?" |
| 23:37.53 | Tramp | ah |
| 23:37.54 | daimrod | printf %.s. {} + |
| 23:38.11 | Tramp | because of the "+" |
| 23:38.26 | Tramp | daimrod: it calls printf fewer times |
| 23:38.28 | daimrod | man find(1) |
| 23:38.54 | daimrod | oh I see |
| 23:39.15 | daimrod | it's nice |
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| 23:40.45 | Tramp | yw |
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| 23:41.17 | daimrod | and I didn't know this trick with printf too |
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| 23:42.49 | AndroidBeing | "kernel: [ 8570.447876] nmbd[10994]: segfault at 7fc76197d328 ip 00007fc763157509 sp 00007fff5fbcf410 error 6 in ld-2.11.3.so[7fc76314c000+1e000]" does anybody know what could be causing this? |
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| 23:43.59 | Intensity | hi |
| 23:44.06 | Intensity | i disabled wifi somehow |
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| 23:44.14 | Intensity | and forgot |
| 23:44.15 | blixten | AndroidBeing: running grsec or something? |
| 23:44.25 | Intensity | how do i enable it |
| 23:44.39 | Intensity | i disabled on boot |
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| 23:44.44 | Intensity | so its not a setting |
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| 23:45.41 | AndroidBeing | blixten: not that i am aware of. what is it? |
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| 23:47.48 | blixten | securitypatch for the kernel |
| 23:48.29 | tharkun | How is XDMCP enabled on kdm? |
| 23:50.31 | AndroidBeing | blixten: I am running a standard debian kernel package to presume not. How can i tell? |
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| 23:51.44 | blixten | AndroidBeing: you are not running grsec, thats for sure |
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| 23:54.42 | AndroidBeing | blixten: any other idea what could be causing my problem? |
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| 23:55.43 | blixten | what samba version are you running? |
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| 23:57.30 | AndroidBeing | 3.5.6 |
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