| 00:00.01 | *** part/#debian testuser (~testuser@78-86-232-26.dsl.cnl.uk.net) |
| 00:03.16 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 00:03.25 | abstracT | ok,guys thanks for your opinions,bye... |
| 00:03.51 | *** part/#debian abstracT (b294a13b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.148.161.59) |
| 00:06.50 | *** join/#debian soypirate (~soypirate@75.94.81.12) |
| 00:07.05 | *** join/#debian Known_problems (~Known_pro@189-82-180-75.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 00:07.44 | *** part/#debian sirToast (toast@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-deefdltvokyvzyci) |
| 00:07.55 | *** join/#debian Budd (~eric@2001:470:8d44:2:9909:1d96:2c76:8e25) |
| 00:09.16 | *** part/#debian phr3ak (~noreply@gnet.hu) |
| 00:11.07 | *** join/#debian ottermaton (~mark@c-174-54-168-113.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 00:11.16 | *** join/#debian glebihan_ (~glebihan@unaffiliated/glebihan) |
| 00:14.20 | *** join/#debian streuner_ (~streuner@mnhm-590e566a.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 00:14.38 | *** join/#debian paulbanks (~Paul@195.74.255.72.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 00:16.39 | *** join/#debian zappy (~zuppy@xdsl-188-118-133-188.dip.osnanet.de) |
| 00:17.35 | *** join/#debian hermogenes (~user@200.175.248.118) |
| 00:19.10 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1275] by debhelper |
| 00:19.47 | *** join/#debian Esa_1 (~esa.syt@108-250-33-79.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:21.30 | *** join/#debian plueschopath (~plueschop@103-222.199-178.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 00:24.29 | *** join/#debian ThirtyEight (~chatzilla@adsl-76-237-190-143.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:24.46 | *** join/#debian glebihan_ (~glebihan@unaffiliated/glebihan) |
| 00:27.27 | *** join/#debian bob_p (~robertpie@c-67-160-200-234.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 00:27.44 | *** mode/#debian [+o eir] by ChanServ |
| 00:27.45 | *** mode/#debian [-qo *!*@unaffiliated/invariant eir] by eir |
| 00:29.32 | *** join/#debian shirish (~quassel@unaffiliated/shirish) |
| 00:29.46 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 00:30.21 | FGH` | hi |
| 00:30.29 | FGH` | how can i remove all files on my system called ban.txt ? |
| 00:32.31 | *** join/#debian redeemer_ (~quassel@77.44.175.51) |
| 00:32.47 | *** join/#debian frienz (~root@ks24304.kimsufi.com) |
| 00:33.55 | *** join/#debian kairos (~kairos@unaffiliated/kairos) |
| 00:34.11 | *** join/#debian KeatonT (~textual@unaffiliated/keatont) |
| 00:34.58 | *** join/#debian LaptopBrain (~brain@cpc2-mfld3-0-0-cust139.13-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 00:35.20 | *** join/#debian berarma (~bernat@80.30.67.22) |
| 00:35.41 | ChibaPet | find / -type f -name ban.txt --execdir rm \{} \; |
| 00:35.47 | Tramp | FGH`: find / -name 'ban.txt' - if that looks right, add "-delete" at the end |
| 00:35.53 | ChibaPet | find / -type f -name ban.txt -execdir rm \{} \; |
| 00:36.15 | ChibaPet | Or what Tramp said, which is doubtless cleaner. |
| 00:36.24 | Tramp | but the -type f is right ofc |
| 00:36.52 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc19-mapp11-2-0-cust843.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 00:37.44 | *** join/#debian MrJones (~yarca@p549F1738.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:38.31 | *** join/#debian donkdonk (~donkdonk@2001:4800:7810:512:2fd4:6b25:ff04:9fbd) |
| 00:40.07 | donkdonk | anyone know why i might be banned from #debian-next? |
| 00:40.24 | *** join/#debian aindilis (~aindilis@173-165-36-107-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 00:40.40 | *** join/#debian Esa_ (~esa.syt@108-250-33-79.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:40.49 | kairos | So...I need help configuring dual monitors with a GTS 250. |
| 00:41.18 | *** join/#debian freeayu (~freeayu2@125.78.37.186) |
| 00:42.22 | *** join/#debian Therion87 (~Robert@dynamic-acs-24-239-82-21.zoominternet.net) |
| 00:45.15 | *** join/#debian marvinstuart (~marvinstu@cpe-184-57-132-151.cinci.res.rr.com) |
| 00:45.36 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@16-74-245-190.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 00:45.47 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 00:46.25 | *** join/#debian LaptopBrain (~brain@cpc2-mfld3-0-0-cust139.13-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 00:47.50 | *** join/#debian cesurasean (~sbrady@75-137-245-71.dhcp.mntv.al.charter.com) |
| 00:48.51 | cesurasean | [....] Starting MySQL database server: mysqldcp: cannot stat `/lib/libnss_compat.so.2': No such file or directory |
| 00:48.55 | cesurasean | how do i fix this on wheezy? |
| 00:48.59 | cesurasean | im missing package? |
| 00:49.10 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1268] by debhelper |
| 00:50.23 | wols | cesurasean: what debian is this? what arch? |
| 00:50.32 | cesurasean | amd64 |
| 00:50.34 | *** join/#debian passstab (~coplon@c-68-80-37-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 00:50.53 | *** join/#debian Nandi (~chatzilla@p5DD72964.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 00:51.04 | wols | wheezy or squeeze? and what does "dpkg -l mysql-server|tail -1" say? |
| 00:51.19 | cesurasean | wheezy, 5.5 |
| 00:51.23 | wols | and "dpkg -l libc6 |tail -1" |
| 00:51.50 | wols | normally this file is part of libc6 and it's very strange that it's missing |
| 00:51.52 | cesurasean | ii libc6:amd64 2.13-37 |
| 00:52.12 | wols | ,versions mysql-server |
| 00:52.13 | judd | Package: mysql-server on i386 -- lenny: 5.0.51a-24+lenny5; lenny-security: 5.0.51a-24+lenny5; lenny-backports: 5.1.49-3~bpo50+1; squeeze: 5.1.49-3; squeeze-security: 5.1.63-0+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 5.1.66-0+squeeze1; wheezy: 5.5.28+dfsg-1; sid: 5.5.29+dfsg-1 |
| 00:52.29 | *** join/#debian lduros (~user@fsf/member/lduros) |
| 00:52.36 | wols | update your mysql-server for starters |
| 00:53.24 | cesurasean | wols, my mysql is newest version 5.5 |
| 00:53.37 | cesurasean | im using 5.5.28 |
| 00:53.52 | cesurasean | i reinstalled libc6, and that file is still missing |
| 00:54.56 | *** join/#debian bandu (unf@ryujin.darkdna.net) |
| 00:54.57 | *** join/#debian bob_p (~robertpie@c-67-160-200-234.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 00:55.50 | *** join/#debian Coffeecoco (~warirc@115-64-99-160.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 00:56.55 | cesurasean | anyone? |
| 00:57.00 | *** join/#debian belundger (~beelluunn@c-75-71-121-237.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 01:00.12 | cesurasean | how come when i reinstall libc6, those files are not there? |
| 01:01.37 | *** join/#debian Jekyll (~whodare@114.249.222.148) |
| 01:02.13 | berarma | cesurasean: that's not the path where that lib is installed on multiarch wheezy |
| 01:02.31 | wols | cause the library is in /lib32 or /lib64. maybe do an apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 01:02.43 | wols | and what is the EXACT and FULL mysql-server version? |
| 01:02.48 | *** join/#debian grim4593 (~grim4593@76-227-189-53.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:02.51 | cesurasean | why is mysql looking in the wrong directory for this file? |
| 01:03.02 | wols | cesurasean: what is the EXACT mysql-server version? |
| 01:03.06 | cesurasean | berarma, i just found that out. thanks. how do i get mysql to read that dir? |
| 01:03.08 | themill | cesurasean: real output in a pastebin would be appreciated |
| 01:03.11 | cesurasean | 5.5.28 |
| 01:03.19 | berarma | because it's not installed from a wheezy package? |
| 01:03.21 | wols | cesurasean: it's not 5.5.28 |
| 01:03.31 | cesurasean | wols, the latest wheezy package. |
| 01:03.43 | wols | but the latest wheezy package is NOT 5.5.28 |
| 01:03.43 | *** join/#debian buibex (~buibex@95.76.228.159) |
| 01:03.51 | cesurasean | ii mysql-server 5.5.28+dfsg-1 |
| 01:04.37 | berarma | mysqldcp??? what's that? |
| 01:06.25 | berarma | are you running the wrong init script? |
| 01:06.36 | *** join/#debian streuner_ (~streuner@mnhm-4d00f904.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 01:07.08 | cesurasean | wols, so what do you suggest i do now? |
| 01:07.09 | *** join/#debian tm_ (~tm@2a03:2900:2:1::b8) |
| 01:07.35 | *** join/#debian kristian-aalborg (~kristian@4410ds1-rd.0.fullrate.dk) |
| 01:07.36 | kristian-aalborg | cheers |
| 01:07.37 | *** join/#debian sIRC (~sIRC@122-148-175-5.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) |
| 01:07.37 | cesurasean | how can i get mysql to read /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu instead of just /lib/? |
| 01:07.38 | wols | cesurasean: answer berarma. mysqldcp doesn't exist in debian |
| 01:07.51 | cesurasean | mysqldcp=mysql |
| 01:08.02 | *** join/#debian chaiz (~chaiz@ppp-124-121-104-173.revip2.asianet.co.th) |
| 01:08.03 | wols | no |
| 01:08.11 | cesurasean | yes |
| 01:08.15 | kristian-aalborg | I have a printer/scanner.... Brother MFC-7820N |
| 01:08.32 | *** join/#debian Nurbs (~nurbs@essn-4db650cf.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 01:08.34 | cesurasean | ok ill just copy the files |
| 01:08.47 | cesurasean | tired of answering retarded questions that do not pertain to my problem. |
| 01:08.50 | kristian-aalborg | I can't get it to scan, sane-find-scanner finds it as vendor=0x04f9, product=0x0181, but that's it |
| 01:08.50 | *** join/#debian valdyn (~valdyn@valdyn.org) |
| 01:08.53 | themill | cesurasean: please put real output in a pastebin. This guessing game is tedious. |
| 01:09.04 | *** join/#debian blackest_mamba (~blackest_@98.158.126.129) |
| 01:09.09 | cesurasean | do i just symlink the files? |
| 01:09.11 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1274] by debhelper |
| 01:09.11 | berarma | retarded questions? |
| 01:09.16 | cesurasean | mysql by default looks in /lib/ |
| 01:09.24 | cesurasean | how do i change that on a default mysql install? |
| 01:09.29 | themill | cesurasean: real output. pastebin. |
| 01:11.19 | *** join/#debian marvinstuart (~marvinstu@cpe-184-57-132-151.cinci.res.rr.com) |
| 01:11.54 | *** join/#debian hell_razer (~HellRaise@164-52-179-94.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 01:11.55 | *** join/#debian iorivur (~quassel@113x43x102x2.ap113.ftth.ucom.ne.jp) |
| 01:13.59 | *** join/#debian Celelibi (~celelibi@2a02-8426-50a1-9d00-021b-2fff-fe35-963d.rev.sfr.net) |
| 01:14.57 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 01:16.39 | *** join/#debian lcafiero (~lcafiero@adsl-99-163-5-114.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:19.27 | *** join/#debian paranoidphreak (~paranoidp@bas3-malton22-1176373663.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 01:22.19 | *** join/#debian trifolio6 (~h@62.43.62.203.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 01:22.45 | *** join/#debian nse1 (~leo@177.134.159.20) |
| 01:23.24 | *** part/#debian donkdonk (~donkdonk@2001:4800:7810:512:2fd4:6b25:ff04:9fbd) |
| 01:25.31 | *** join/#debian k-t_ (~kt@p5DE87709.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:25.39 | *** join/#debian smrrd (~samuirai@shackspace/samuirai) |
| 01:26.15 | berarma | kristian-aalborg: you'll need to install the scanner driver from brother's site |
| 01:26.25 | smrrd | hey guys... I search an old debian 2.2 iso image... anybody know where I can find it? |
| 01:26.26 | *** join/#debian valgrind (~valgrind@195.Red-88-15-125.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 01:27.24 | *** join/#debian streuner__ (~streuner@mnhm-4d00f05c.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 01:27.51 | *** join/#debian sniffells (~sniffells@fctnnbsc30w-099192000124.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.nb.bellaliant.net) |
| 01:27.54 | *** join/#debian choonming (~choonming@175.142.195.213) |
| 01:31.21 | *** join/#debian morsicus (~morsicus@127.45.141.88.rev.sfr.net) |
| 01:32.53 | *** join/#debian lcafiero (~lcafiero@adsl-99-163-5-114.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:32.58 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 01:34.42 | *** join/#debian ThirtyEight (~chatzilla@adsl-76-237-190-143.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:36.38 | *** join/#debian valdyn (~valdyn@valdyn.org) |
| 01:36.49 | *** join/#debian tm__ (~tm@2a03:2900:2:1::b8) |
| 01:36.50 | *** join/#debian morsicus (~morsicus@127.45.141.88.rev.sfr.net) |
| 01:36.57 | *** join/#debian TomyLobo (~foo@91-64-160-173-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 01:37.30 | *** join/#debian deadalnix (~deadalnix@221.186.131.72) |
| 01:38.02 | *** join/#debian |oop (~pool@c-69-253-114-150.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 01:38.29 | *** join/#debian dreamon_ (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 01:45.00 | *** join/#debian meti (~meti@gateway/tor-sasl/meti) |
| 01:45.02 | *** join/#debian Therion87 (~Robert@dynamic-acs-24-239-82-21.zoominternet.net) |
| 01:47.22 | *** join/#debian LaptopBrain (~brain@cpc2-mfld3-0-0-cust139.13-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 01:47.57 | *** join/#debian gdoteof (~g@wsip-70-164-195-202.ga.at.cox.net) |
| 01:48.13 | gdoteof | so i've got a bunch of boxes that are mostly clones of each other; lamp stacks on rackspace with slightly different php running inside each of them |
| 01:48.31 | gdoteof | i ahve looked at clusterssh, and am just looking for wisdom around the issue |
| 01:48.45 | gdoteof | generally, we sometimes need to do things like upgrade the framework |
| 01:49.06 | gdoteof | or install a new library or something that needs to go to all the already-running virtual machines |
| 01:49.11 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1264] by debhelper |
| 01:49.22 | gdoteof | we also make a new image so all future boxes will be fine; |
| 01:49.35 | cedr | What about something like #puppet for configuration management? |
| 01:51.55 | gdoteof | cedr: yeah i have looked at that too. we do need more than configuration management though |
| 01:52.26 | cedr | It can also install and ensure certain packages are at a certain version |
| 01:53.14 | gdoteof | right, but we need things that are defintiely not in any deb package; like some quirky fix to the framework that is running, or deleting an admin user or key from all the boxes at once |
| 01:53.16 | ChibaPet | Alright. Gnome 3 is impressive-looking. |
| 01:53.50 | gdoteof | the truth is, our configuration itself is pretty simple; but i do think puppet is smart as well |
| 01:54.10 | gdoteof | it seems almost silly not to use it, when managing dozens/hundreds of boxes. |
| 01:54.17 | gdoteof | even if they are all identical |
| 01:54.49 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 01:55.40 | *** join/#debian soypirate_ (~soypirate@75.94.81.12) |
| 01:55.51 | *** join/#debian gry (gryllida@freenode/staff/gry) |
| 01:57.50 | cedr | I've heard some people start using if they're managing more than one server |
| 01:57.58 | cedr | but you can roll your own .debs of you're so inclned |
| 01:58.13 | gdoteof | hmm.. that's an interesting idea |
| 01:58.20 | cedr | s/of/if/ s/inclned/inclined/ |
| 01:58.27 | ChibaPet | A combination of both is reasonable. |
| 01:58.37 | *** join/#debian desti (~desti@dslb-188-109-028-164.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 01:58.47 | cedr | Roll them on your own server and sign em with your team's key |
| 01:59.16 | cedr | (not as simple as that, but it's a fun idea for sure) |
| 01:59.25 | *** join/#debian Droolio (~drool@host86-178-33-182.range86-178.btcentralplus.com) |
| 01:59.34 | ChibaPet | System architecture tools can be useful for assigning boxes to various classes, some of which can depend on locally-rolled packages. |
| 02:00.20 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben@29.29.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz) |
| 02:01.01 | *** join/#debian maxxe (~maxxe@unaffiliated/maxxe) |
| 02:01.33 | *** join/#debian drinkycrow (~drinkycro@c-98-212-215-137.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 02:01.40 | cedr | gdoteof: let me know how it works out |
| 02:02.07 | cedr | (or what you decide to go with) |
| 02:02.26 | *** join/#debian KeatonT (~textual@unaffiliated/keatont) |
| 02:03.58 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~thunderrd@119.42.74.123) |
| 02:04.29 | *** join/#debian bob_p (~robertpie@c-67-160-200-234.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 02:04.54 | *** join/#debian ryankarason (~karason@cpe-76-189-227-224.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 02:05.49 | *** join/#debian redeemer (~quassel@77.44.175.51) |
| 02:06.29 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 02:09.28 | *** join/#debian b4dave (~b4dave@75-162-159-3.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 02:09.51 | *** join/#debian ThirtyEight (~chatzilla@adsl-76-237-190-143.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 02:10.56 | *** join/#debian atomfire (~atomfire@11.sub-70-199-233.myvzw.com) |
| 02:14.17 | *** join/#debian marvinstuart (~marvinstu@cpe-184-57-132-151.cinci.res.rr.com) |
| 02:14.18 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 02:15.39 | *** join/#debian belundger (~beelluunn@c-75-71-121-237.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 02:18.08 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe (~havoc@37.203.101.136) |
| 02:19.32 | *** join/#debian dvs (~colin@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 02:21.31 | *** join/#debian dak (~dustin@ool-43569189.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 02:21.41 | *** join/#debian edju (~edju@75-39-106-129.lightspeed.dtrtmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 02:22.08 | *** join/#debian fender0107401 (~fender010@114.244.42.192) |
| 02:23.06 | *** join/#debian Therion87 (~Robert@dynamic-acs-24-239-82-21.zoominternet.net) |
| 02:23.27 | *** join/#debian m4ggus (~marcus@unaffiliated/m4ggus) |
| 02:24.36 | *** join/#debian mr0wl (~quassel@unaffiliated/mr0wl) |
| 02:26.09 | bitg | anyone know why apt-get gives lockfile errors sometimes? |
| 02:26.13 | bitg | Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| 02:26.28 | bitg | Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 02:26.29 | *** join/#debian Sbrun (~nurbs@essn-5d83a778.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 02:29.50 | *** join/#debian Arrowmaster (~arrow@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ResponsibleForEverythingAndNothing/Arrowmaster) |
| 02:31.16 | *** join/#debian Eino19531 (~Steve@c-68-81-227-167.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 02:32.18 | Eino19531 | I'm looking for a low latency kernel patch that will work with Debian for gaming |
| 02:32.19 | *** join/#debian Nurbs (~nurbs@essn-5d83a778.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 02:32.20 | *** join/#debian Armistice (~Armistice@adsl-213-249-247-183.karoo.KCOM.COM) |
| 02:32.32 | Armistice | A default install of Debian, doe sit come with C or Obj C? |
| 02:33.42 | *** join/#debian qu-bit (~shroedngr@unaffiliated/barriers) |
| 02:33.47 | dvs | neither |
| 02:33.59 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~thunderrd@119.42.74.100) |
| 02:34.11 | ChibaPet | Armistice: But it's trivial to ask for that. |
| 02:34.13 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 02:34.33 | *** join/#debian mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) |
| 02:34.34 | Armistice | I'm not sure which one I've got lol I'm ... baffled. |
| 02:34.37 | engla | obj-c is almost unused in linux projects |
| 02:34.50 | *** join/#debian cool_code (~coolcode@gateway/tor-sasl/coolcode/x-71588274) |
| 02:34.56 | ChibaPet | Oh, the GNUStep people would beg to differ. |
| 02:35.14 | *** join/#debian marvinstuart (~marvinstu@cpe-184-57-132-151.cinci.res.rr.com) |
| 02:35.16 | engla | really? it's only them |
| 02:35.18 | engla | that's almost unused |
| 02:35.41 | *** join/#debian chatsiri_ (~chatsiri_@ppp-110-168-45-126.revip5.asianet.co.th) |
| 02:35.43 | ChibaPet | The other way to look at it is, "here's a user who's asked for Objective C. Perhaps he wants it for something." |
| 02:36.28 | Armistice | C is easier to understand imo, than Obj C... but wasn't sure which I have installed on my debian. |
| 02:36.45 | Armistice | casue I want to write a C application ^.^ |
| 02:37.04 | dvs | not by default |
| 02:37.14 | engla | ok ChibaPet |
| 02:37.17 | Armistice | ok, how do I check if it's installed? |
| 02:37.40 | engla | Armistice: if you install build-essential, you have gcc which is a C compiler |
| 02:37.41 | dvs | gcc -v |
| 02:38.03 | Armistice | gcc command not found |
| 02:38.08 | engla | gcc can also be used for C++ and for Obj-C but you might require some more -dev packages |
| 02:38.16 | *** join/#debian Pex (~Pierre@c83-249-217-87.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 02:38.20 | ChibaPet | sudo apt-get install build-essential |
| 02:38.24 | Armistice | so I' install build-essential and I'm all good to go then? |
| 02:38.35 | dvs | for C |
| 02:38.44 | *** join/#debian drumr (~drumr@ip98-165-201-100.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 02:38.53 | Armistice | I can create c files, compile it (so it becomes .bin) then I can execute that. |
| 02:38.58 | Armistice | C is fine, it's easier ;P |
| 02:39.22 | engla | yes |
| 02:39.25 | *** join/#debian gdb___ (43cfe284@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.207.226.132) |
| 02:39.48 | Eino19531 | I need high frequency/low latency performance of the Debian kernel for gaming. If any one can help. |
| 02:39.59 | Armistice | ok. :) |
| 02:40.25 | ChibaPet | Eino19531: What specific gaming concerns to do you have? I find that gaming on Debian using the stock kernel works fine. |
| 02:40.26 | engla | Armistice: remember to use compiler warnings.. so it tells you about more problems that otherwise go undetected... gcc -Wall |
| 02:40.27 | markovh | to respond to a bug report on bugs.debian.org, can i simply email the bugnumber@bugs.debian.org? |
| 02:40.44 | ChibaPet | Eino19531: It's more likely the case that your choice of graphics card is far more important. |
| 02:40.53 | Armistice | good tip engla, would save a lot of issues |
| 02:41.13 | Armistice | is there a way to turn that on by default, engla? |
| 02:41.34 | engla | not really. If you use a Makefile you can put the rule in there |
| 02:41.37 | ChibaPet | Armistice: A good practise is to use Makefiles, and you can have your Makefile use that by default when building your programs. |
| 02:42.14 | Eino19531 | 3d gaming seems i get slow response times. |
| 02:42.42 | ChibaPet | Eino19531: So, things to check there... Are you using hardware rendering? 'glxinfo | grep rendering' can help you determine that. |
| 02:42.44 | engla | Armistice: another prime tip is always look at the first error message and disregard the others.. after the compiler trips an error, it stops making sense |
| 02:43.20 | Armistice | engla, aye. One error can sometimes bring out another error. Happens in more than one language. |
| 02:43.49 | *** join/#debian wols_ (~klingens@p5DD07170.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:44.57 | *** join/#debian Coffeecoco (~warirc@115-64-99-160.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 02:45.55 | *** join/#debian WildTux (~WildTux@115.96.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 02:46.57 | *** join/#debian theta (~theta@c-98-246-29-197.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 02:48.03 | ChibaPet | Multi-arch is making me cry. Multi-arch and a GNU configure script. |
| 02:49.02 | *** join/#debian Sidze (~Sidze@ks3267440.kimsufi.com) |
| 02:49.06 | *** join/#debian soypirate (~soypirate@75.94.81.12) |
| 02:49.11 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1258] by debhelper |
| 02:49.21 | *** join/#debian defile (~robert@ip70-160-154-234.hr.hr.cox.net) |
| 02:49.29 | *** join/#debian theta (~theta@c-98-246-29-197.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 02:50.56 | *** join/#debian semeion (~semeion@gateway/tor-sasl/semeion) |
| 02:51.37 | petn-randall | ChibaPet: Well, you haven't tried porting multiarch packages to squeeze then D: |
| 02:52.14 | ChibaPet | petn-randall: I looked at it briefly, when I found that a 32-bit version of a library I wanted didn't exist. I decided it made more sense to just leap onto Wheezy for this with native multi-arch support. |
| 02:52.25 | Eino19531 | I was just talking to someone from MIT and most of what they have done is turning off useless services. disabling irqbalance daemon , and Assign CPU affinity to individual IRQ along with stopping file system journaling. |
| 02:52.53 | ChibaPet | But this configure script is driving me batty. I can see amd64 and i386 versions of libraries, but I'm not yet successfully tracing how the foolish thing is setting its library path. |
| 02:53.27 | Eino19531 | I'm just looking for an easier fix. |
| 02:53.31 | ChibaPet | Eino19531: For real, your first job is to make sure you have hardware support for your 3D rendering. If you don't, nothing will help. |
| 02:55.31 | petn-randall | Eino19531: '[...] with stopping file system journaling.' 1999 called, they want their non-journaling filesystem back. |
| 02:56.19 | *** join/#debian Gomex (~rafaelgom@fedora/Gomex) |
| 02:56.23 | Gomex | hi guys |
| 02:56.49 | Armistice | I did gcc -Wall testing.c and it came out with a.out ? |
| 02:56.50 | Gomex | In debian servers, where is a better folder to store iptables file rules? |
| 02:56.55 | Armistice | I was hoping to make a bin file. |
| 02:57.13 | Eino19531 | I'm running a duel core AMD with NVIDIA Graphics card. |
| 02:57.18 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 02:57.33 | *** join/#debian KiSM (~KiSM@CPE-120-145-141-21.lnse2.pie.bigpond.net.au) |
| 02:57.45 | *** join/#debian Milos (Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) |
| 02:57.49 | dvs | Armistice: That is a bin file |
| 02:57.50 | ChibaPet | Eino19531: Do you have hardware support for your 3D rendering? |
| 02:58.01 | ChibaPet | Gomex: the default works well |
| 02:58.07 | Eino19531 | Yes |
| 02:58.20 | Armistice | is it? Howcome it's not testing.out ? |
| 02:58.40 | *** join/#debian k010mb0 (~Serghei@91.73.46.2) |
| 02:58.49 | ChibaPet | Eino19531: What does this say? glxinfo | grep "direct rendering" |
| 02:58.54 | *** join/#debian |BND|loony (~xmasloony@p50888DD1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:59.03 | dvs | Armistice: because a.out is the default name. Use the -o option to name the binary file. |
| 02:59.28 | Gomex | ChibaPet, sorry, but where is the default? |
| 02:59.58 | *** join/#debian drumr (~drumr@ip98-165-201-100.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 03:00.05 | ChibaPet | Gomex: http://wiki.debian.org/iptables |
| 03:00.59 | ChibaPet | Gomex: There are other ways to do it. For instance, /etc/network/rules invoked by an "up" clause works. But the wiki describes the common Debian solution to the problem. |
| 03:01.07 | Armistice | Ok thank you, how about running a binary file? |
| 03:01.37 | ChibaPet | Gomex: There are also ways to hook rulesets to various Network Manager state changes. It really depends a lot on your circumstances. |
| 03:02.01 | dvs | Armistice: Its the same as running a command, except put a "./" in front of it because PATH is usually not set with the current directory. |
| 03:02.33 | Armistice | Yep, that was my issue dvs, I needed ./ |
| 03:02.54 | *** join/#debian Orbitrix (ChangChong@c-68-35-88-96.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) |
| 03:06.19 | *** join/#debian sIRC (~sIRC@122-148-175-5.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) |
| 03:07.13 | Eino19531 | I just got an email from the guy from MIT, and he gave me a solution to my problem. I didn’t know It this much work building a gaming computer with Linux But I'm getting there. |
| 03:07.31 | ChibaPet | Eino19531: What does this say? glxinfo | grep "direct rendering" |
| 03:07.40 | Gomex | ChibaPet, thanks |
| 03:07.45 | ChibaPet | Gomex: np |
| 03:08.18 | *** part/#debian Eino19531 (~Steve@c-68-81-227-167.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 03:08.19 | ChibaPet | Eino19531: If he's telling you to turn off journalling, you need to disregard what he's telling you and look for answers elsewhere. |
| 03:09.45 | *** join/#debian j0r-L (~uNIXplumb@ultimedia-linux.org) |
| 03:12.08 | *** join/#debian redeemer_ (~quassel@77.44.175.51) |
| 03:13.09 | ChibaPet | I wonder if his "MIT guy" was intentionally torturing him or was just confused. Sigh. |
| 03:13.23 | *** join/#debian afx (~afx@78.130.171.68) |
| 03:15.19 | *** join/#debian internat (~nf@60-241-102-25.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 03:15.47 | *** join/#debian xkaliber (~xkaliber@unaffiliated/xkaliber) |
| 03:18.35 | *** join/#debian afx (~afx@78.130.171.68) |
| 03:19.10 | engla | sounds like a UNIX guy who hasn't seen the sun for a while |
| 03:19.19 | engla | neither sun nor linux |
| 03:19.26 | *** join/#debian Eino19531 (~Steve@c-68-81-227-167.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 03:19.26 | *** join/#debian piezo (~piezo@pdpc/supporter/active/piezo) |
| 03:19.37 | dvs | goes back under his rock |
| 03:20.33 | *** part/#debian sniffells (~sniffells@fctnnbsc30w-099192000124.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.nb.bellaliant.net) |
| 03:21.02 | ChibaPet | Oh, FWIW, I'm solving my configure issue with a shotgun. I'm ripping out amd64 -dev packages and installing the appropriate i386 -dev packages. It feels wrong, but it's making progress, and I'm making sure Aptitude is happy with everything. =twitch= |
| 03:21.19 | *** join/#debian zuppy (~zuppy@xdslfn154.osnanet.de) |
| 03:23.51 | Eino19531 | GLX Renderer: GeForce 6150 LE/integrated/SSE2 GLX Version: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 304.64 |
| 03:24.52 | *** join/#debian afx (~afx@78.130.171.68) |
| 03:25.36 | ChibaPet | Eino19531: What tool is giving you that? I was mostly interested in glxinfo output as it's a good measure of whether your system thinks it's doing software rendering or using the available hardware resources. |
| 03:25.46 | *** part/#debian Hugh_Man (~kvirc@c-68-61-229-187.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 03:26.15 | Scatterbrain | ? |
| 03:26.31 | Scatterbrain | /?/help |
| 03:26.56 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 03:27.31 | *** join/#debian DrakkenWarr (~meh@66.225.109.58) |
| 03:27.52 | *** join/#debian jagginess (~jb@modemcable032.45-160-184.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 03:28.09 | Eino19531 | I'm using tools from Debian testing reops. |
| 03:28.26 | ChibaPet | Eino19531: You might also have some rather severe issues with that particular card. For instance, http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/ shows it as having a relative (meaning what? not sure, but relative) value of "39". My gaming box (Debian) has a relative value of "2196" (it's an nVidia GeForce 460 SE). My wife's system has a relative value of "4043" (GeForce GTX 660) |
| 03:29.11 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1250] by debhelper |
| 03:29.18 | ChibaPet | Which is to say, it's possible that even with the software correctly making use of the hardware, you won't be able to achieve (subjectively) acceptable performance with anything at all graphics-intensive. |
| 03:30.15 | ChibaPet | Eino19531: It might be worth your time looking for an affordable discrete graphics card. |
| 03:33.09 | *** join/#debian kahtahs (~kahtahs@unaffiliated/shathak) |
| 03:33.29 | *** join/#debian Third3ye (~Third3ye@194-3-118-87.mtulink.net) |
| 03:34.24 | *** join/#debian cheese1756 (~cheese175@unaffiliated/cheese1756) |
| 03:35.13 | Eino19531 | Here is the card I have coming I order it a couple of days ago. |
| 03:35.20 | Eino19531 | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130838 |
| 03:36.22 | ChibaPet | Hey, yeah, that's a very good one. You'll be happy with it. Please wait for that and get it set up - you're not going to need to turn off journalling, mess with IRQs, or any of that. Doing those things is liable to end up with your system damaged or misconfigured in bad ways. |
| 03:37.25 | *** join/#debian JohnTravolta (~Third3ye@194-3-118-87.mtulink.net) |
| 03:38.22 | *** part/#debian Armistice (~Armistice@adsl-213-249-247-183.karoo.KCOM.COM) |
| 03:39.11 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1241] by debhelper |
| 03:41.08 | *** join/#debian afx (~afx@78.130.171.68) |
| 03:41.15 | *** join/#debian donbright (~don@ip68-0-92-75.tu.ok.cox.net) |
| 03:42.24 | Eino19531 | The guy from MIT helping me with the kernel tweaks really knows what he is doing. Hopefully I will build a true Linux gaming machine. |
| 03:44.02 | Eino19531 | good night everyone, at least it night here lol |
| 03:44.11 | ChibaPet | Eino19531: The things he's telling you to do are dangerous. Run them by people in here before you take them as sage advice. |
| 03:44.57 | *** join/#debian Jdbye|Laptop (~furry4lif@ti0010a380-dhcp1283.bb.online.no) |
| 03:45.02 | Eino19531 | OK |
| 03:45.11 | *** part/#debian Eino19531 (~Steve@c-68-81-227-167.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 03:46.18 | *** join/#debian iToast (~iToast@bas4-unionville55-1279488483.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 03:46.50 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 03:46.58 | *** join/#debian zykotic10 (~ZykoticK9@206-47-13-1.dsl.ncf.ca) |
| 03:47.30 | *** join/#debian denile (~denile@unaffiliated/denile) |
| 03:48.27 | *** join/#debian fishhead (~roger@c-98-229-169-81.hsd1.vt.comcast.net) |
| 03:51.50 | *** join/#debian noahfx (~noahfx@190.148.122.4) |
| 03:51.53 | *** join/#debian moetunes (~Jean-luc@d58-106-59-219.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au) |
| 03:54.37 | *** join/#debian paulbanks (~Paul@195.74.255.72.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 03:55.25 | *** join/#debian ottermaton (~mark@c-174-54-168-113.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 03:57.59 | *** join/#debian Dbug (~Dbug@unaffiliated/dbug) |
| 03:59.11 | *** join/#debian daemonkeeper (~Arno@debian/developer/arno) |
| 03:59.52 | *** join/#debian RT|Chatzilla (~rt@reactos/tester/RT) |
| 04:00.55 | RT|Chatzilla | sorry to bother you, how can I report debian bug from gmail web interface? |
| 04:01.53 | ectospasm | you can't use reportbug? |
| 04:01.54 | *** join/#debian chatsiri1 (~chatsiri_@ppp-115-87-56-106.revip4.asianet.co.th) |
| 04:02.18 | *** join/#debian chatsiri2 (~chatsiri_@ppp-115-87-56-106.revip4.asianet.co.th) |
| 04:02.24 | RT|Chatzilla | the network is restricted to http and https only |
| 04:02.49 | *** join/#debian deadalnix (~deadalnix@221.186.131.72) |
| 04:03.42 | *** join/#debian yeehi1 (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 04:03.45 | *** join/#debian qu-bit (~shroedngr@unaffiliated/barriers) |
| 04:05.18 | ectospasm | RT|Chatzilla: so you can't send SMTP? |
| 04:06.16 | RT|Chatzilla | yes. reportbug stalls when it tries to send |
| 04:07.43 | *** join/#debian moreira (~naomoreir@bl16-230-74.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 04:08.14 | *** join/#debian drinkycrow (~drinkycro@c-98-212-215-137.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 04:09.11 | ectospasm | RT|Chatzilla: use reportbug --print > reportbug.txt, then copy the contents of reportbug.txt to your GMail message. |
| 04:13.45 | RT|Chatzilla | ectospasm: reportbug now shows vi form to me, so I copy whole form to gmail will be done reporting bug? |
| 04:14.05 | ectospasm | copy the output |
| 04:14.10 | ectospasm | not the vi form |
| 04:14.13 | *** part/#debian donbright (~don@ip68-0-92-75.tu.ok.cox.net) |
| 04:15.27 | *** join/#debian slixz85 (~thedude@unaffiliated/slixz85) |
| 04:15.44 | *** join/#debian MmikeDOMA (~msplival@cpe-188-129-98-136.dynamic.amis.hr) |
| 04:15.49 | *** part/#debian slixz85 (~thedude@unaffiliated/slixz85) |
| 04:15.54 | *** join/#debian soypirate (~soypirate@75.94.81.12) |
| 04:16.01 | *** join/#debian TheCoffeMaker (~TheCoffeM@unaffiliated/thecoffemaker) |
| 04:16.21 | *** join/#debian lcafiero (~lcafiero@adsl-99-163-5-114.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:17.31 | jelly-home | smrrd: you might have to use floppy images instead, http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/Debian-2.2/main/disks-i386/current/ |
| 04:20.49 | jagginess | Debian 2.2? |
| 04:20.50 | jagginess | wtf? |
| 04:21.14 | *** join/#debian adam8157 (~adam@unaffiliated/adam8157) |
| 04:21.19 | jagginess | who's asking for debian 2.2? |
| 04:21.28 | RT|Chatzilla | ectospasm: "Submit this report on upx-ucl (e to edit) [Y|n|a|c|e|i|l|m|p|q|d|t|s|?]?" in this prompt, should I press "q" and copy the content of /tmp/reportbug-upx-ucl-* to gmail web interface? |
| 04:22.41 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@197.179.10.84) |
| 04:24.57 | *** join/#debian redeemer (~quassel@77.44.175.51) |
| 04:27.32 | *** join/#debian lcafiero (~lcafiero@adsl-99-163-5-114.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:29.18 | *** join/#debian Coffeecoco (~warirc@115-64-99-160.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 04:31.37 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 04:32.34 | jelly-home | jagginess: the named user was. why |
| 04:32.56 | *** part/#debian deuterium (~deuterium@178-83-239-67.dynamic.hispeed.ch) |
| 04:33.08 | jagginess | 2.2, I don't want to go there |
| 04:33.19 | jagginess | oO |
| 04:35.50 | jelly-home | so why mention it |
| 04:36.08 | jelly-home | shrugs |
| 04:36.17 | *** join/#debian Rusty1 (~Rusty1@cpe-74-70-74-217.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 04:38.17 | *** join/#debian diniwed (~gavron@ool-ad03bcb1.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 04:39.31 | cedr | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:40.25 | Towzzer | hi there |
| 04:42.34 | *** join/#debian orfix (~mounir@41.143.176.89) |
| 04:42.41 | *** join/#debian wolkengu1ker (~wolkenguc@dsbg-4db56b7e.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 04:43.15 | *** join/#debian Colt (~noreply@96.241.64.28) |
| 04:43.21 | nevyn | reportbug works for me with gmail addresses |
| 04:43.32 | nevyn | you just send via the debian smtp servers |
| 04:43.32 | *** join/#debian kevinbenko (~kvirc@67-2-4-161.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 04:43.35 | nevyn | sigh |
| 04:48.14 | *** join/#debian TheCoffeMaker (~TheCoffeM@unaffiliated/thecoffemaker) |
| 04:53.38 | *** join/#debian sawgij (~sawjig@gateway/tor-sasl/sawjig) |
| 04:55.21 | *** join/#debian Tree_Hugger (~Tree_Hugg@75-166-129-33.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 04:57.13 | *** join/#debian theta (~theta@c-98-246-29-197.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 05:00.18 | *** join/#debian nicetings (~nt@027dced1.bb.sky.com) |
| 05:00.26 | *** join/#debian syssi_ (~syssi@unaffiliated/syssi) |
| 05:00.37 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 05:06.41 | *** join/#debian Tordek (tordek@supporter.blinkenshell.org) |
| 05:06.44 | Tordek | hi |
| 05:06.50 | *** join/#debian ToeTag (~ToeTag@unaffiliated/toetag) |
| 05:07.34 | Tordek | I'm looking for wx-config, and apt-file only names wx-common, but it's not there. is this a bug or am I missing something? |
| 05:08.16 | *** join/#debian Haris (Haris@unaffiliated/haris) |
| 05:08.19 | Haris | Hello all |
| 05:08.42 | Haris | logrotate doesn't seem to execute the postscript values on 5.0.2 I believe |
| 05:08.57 | Haris | or it does so .. so fast, that postfix doesn't restart on log rotation at night |
| 05:08.59 | *** join/#debian cwood_ (~cwood@static-b2-72.highspeed.eol.ca) |
| 05:10.55 | *** join/#debian Walhter (~john@S0106586d8f349780.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 05:13.42 | *** join/#debian eataix (eataix@unaffiliated/eataix) |
| 05:13.55 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 05:14.08 | *** join/#debian Haris__ (~Haris@182.177.181.119) |
| 05:14.21 | *** join/#debian redeemer_ (~quassel@77.44.175.51) |
| 05:14.47 | ectospasm | RT|Chatzilla: I don't know, I've never used the --print option to reportbug |
| 05:15.36 | RT|Chatzilla | ectospasm: hmm, anyway I copied the vi form to gmail and it works |
| 05:18.36 | *** join/#debian dcherniv (~dcherniv@213.255.219.102) |
| 05:19.12 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1234] by debhelper |
| 05:19.14 | ectospasm | RT|Chatzilla: I don't know if that's in the right format for the bugtracker. |
| 05:19.25 | ectospasm | RT|Chatzilla: did you ever look at the man page? |
| 05:19.44 | *** join/#debian KernelDog (~Dog@modemcable045.119-83-70.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 05:20.06 | *** part/#debian micket (~micket@m30742.olf.sgsnet.se) |
| 05:20.07 | RT|Chatzilla | yes I did. anyway the bug report is here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=698029 |
| 05:20.28 | *** join/#debian cardamon (~mute@c-24-30-40-161.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 05:22.17 | *** join/#debian zed45 (~py@ool-18b9bd01.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 05:22.37 | *** join/#debian bst_ (~bst@net145-0-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs) |
| 05:26.21 | Gomex | hi guys |
| 05:26.34 | Gomex | is there a package that logs all commands in auth.log |
| 05:26.42 | cardamon | Are there any top level directories that might see a benefit from moving to an SSD, I wonder? |
| 05:26.44 | Gomex | but I forgot its name :( |
| 05:28.05 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben@29.29.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz) |
| 05:29.34 | *** join/#debian dgreeley (~daniel@rrcs-24-173-17-154.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 05:30.11 | *** join/#debian Caesar (apollock@daedalus.andrew.net.au) |
| 05:30.11 | *** join/#debian Caesar (apollock@debian/developer/apollock) |
| 05:33.05 | *** join/#debian Sbrun (~nurbs@essn-5d83ab9c.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 05:33.36 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 05:35.44 | *** join/#debian Onixs (~Onixs@112.204.253.50) |
| 05:37.10 | *** join/#debian atomfire (~atomfire@23.sub-70-199-226.myvzw.com) |
| 05:39.16 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@98.210.252.110) |
| 05:39.36 | jagginess | cardamon, nope |
| 05:40.10 | jagginess | cardamon, maybe swap? depends on what you want.. it'll just wear the life of it faster.. |
| 05:41.41 | cardamon | jagginess: Not swap...too many writes. |
| 05:42.01 | cardamon | It'd have to be somewhere with a lot of reads and few if any writes. |
| 05:42.02 | jagginess | cardamon, comeon .. be a man! |
| 05:42.50 | jagginess | that's kind of useless |
| 05:42.57 | jagginess | I'd use it for swap.. |
| 05:43.02 | jagginess | (i would) |
| 05:43.10 | *** join/#debian abchirk__ (~abchirk@f052195201.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 05:44.02 | jagginess | considering if the drive is 20+ gig, and you only use 2 gigs of swap.. it can last for many many years because of the way SSD's drives re-use other sectors |
| 05:44.08 | dcherniv | cardamon, move /usr/lib /lib /usr/local/lib to swap |
| 05:44.30 | dcherniv | lots of reads almost no writes |
| 05:44.44 | *** join/#debian yeehi1 (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 05:44.57 | dcherniv | *err to ssd |
| 05:45.19 | cardamon | This is annoying. wlan0 came up okay it looks like in debian-installer (7.0 beta4), but it doesn't seem to be finding the AP |
| 05:45.34 | jagginess | if you do that ^, you risk your boot-up not working.. it's more pain than gain. You won't get much because there is already a default cache in ram somewhere |
| 05:48.38 | *** join/#debian BlastHardcheese (chris@pdpc/supporter/active/blasthardcheese) |
| 05:48.47 | *** join/#debian phix (~threat@123-243-44-131.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 05:51.16 | *** join/#debian iToast (~iToast@bas4-unionville55-1279488483.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 05:53.47 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 05:54.50 | *** join/#debian tlviewer_ (~prymar@cpe-72-130-32-164.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 05:55.22 | *** join/#debian Hans_Henrik (~Hans_Henr@ti0131a340-dhcp1057.bb.online.no) |
| 05:55.46 | *** join/#debian a111 (~a111a111@host-2-98-104-178.as13285.net) |
| 05:57.03 | jagginess | !paste |
| 05:57.03 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 05:57.29 | Hans_Henrik | there was some public apt server for debian-stable that kept more up-to-date with packages like apache php mysql and some others, any idea what server i may be talking about? |
| 05:57.52 | dondelelcaro | Hans_Henrik: you probably mean backports.debian.org |
| 05:58.11 | Hans_Henrik | hmm not really, but guess thats close enough |
| 06:07.47 | wols_ | !volatile |
| 06:07.47 | dpkg | Debian Volatile was a project aiming at keeping Debian releases up-to-date for fast moving packages such as virus scanners, spam scanners and firmware downloaders. It was replaced by the <stable-updates> suite as of Debian 6.0. http://lists.debian.org/debian-volatile-announce/2012/msg00000.html |
| 06:07.56 | wols_ | Hans_Henrik: ^^ |
| 06:08.23 | wols_ | there is also dotdeb, but that is a recipe for disaster: poor quality packages |
| 06:08.47 | Hans_Henrik | yeah thats the 1 i used x.x |
| 06:08.53 | Hans_Henrik | thanks for the warning |
| 06:09.12 | *** join/#debian Quix0r (~quix0r@dslb-188-109-248-248.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 06:11.02 | cardamon | Little help with partman? https://www.dropbox.com/s/p5mfsfj8f2ajjmi/IMAG0118.jpg I want to free up the entire drive and get rid of the existing lvm scheme. But it won't let me touch the lvm here. The most I can do is erase the data, (which took forever on 8GB, so I imagine it will be worse on 800GB). |
| 06:11.37 | cardamon | I don't need the data erased, just the lvm deleted and the whole space freed up. |
| 06:12.17 | Arrowmaster | cardamon: go into 'configure lvm' from that screen |
| 06:12.28 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 06:12.30 | Arrowmaster | you should be able to delete each LV and then finally the PV |
| 06:13.00 | Arrowmaster | er delete each LV and then the VG and finally reformat the PV |
| 06:16.55 | *** join/#debian dcherniv (~dcherniv@213.255.219.102) |
| 06:21.17 | *** join/#debian belundger (~beelluunn@c-75-71-121-237.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 06:21.31 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 06:24.18 | *** join/#debian vin_yl (~vin_yl@pool-72-87-186-190.lsanca.btas.verizon.net) |
| 06:27.02 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 06:28.37 | *** join/#debian n1x (~n1x@unaffiliated/n1xnc0d3) |
| 06:31.56 | *** join/#debian ToeTag (~ToeTag@unaffiliated/toetag) |
| 06:33.51 | *** join/#debian WorldGenesis (~DEBUGirc_@cpe-67-252-117-243.stny.res.rr.com) |
| 06:35.23 | *** join/#debian WorldGenesis (~DEBUG@cpe-67-252-117-243.stny.res.rr.com) |
| 06:37.58 | *** join/#debian jikz_ (~jikz@106.211.119.245) |
| 06:38.08 | *** join/#debian jiku (~jikz@106.211.119.245) |
| 06:40.12 | *** join/#debian abchirk (~abchirk@f052195201.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 06:43.15 | *** join/#debian yeehi1 (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 06:44.44 | Hans_Henrik | how can i give user www-data read/write/ access to /var/www* ? |
| 06:45.34 | *** join/#debian cheese1756 (~cheese175@unaffiliated/cheese1756) |
| 06:49.14 | *** join/#debian epitamizor (~snake@68-186-113-93.dhcp.knwc.wa.charter.com) |
| 06:49.37 | Hans_Henrik | ah screw that, how can i give the group "www-data" read/write access to /var/www* ? |
| 06:50.33 | *** join/#debian mysteriousdarren (~darren@pdpc/supporter/student/mysteriousdarren) |
| 06:50.53 | epitamizor | is there enlightenment release for 17 yet? all I see is v16 |
| 06:51.09 | *** join/#debian tomoprime (~tomoprime@cpe-24-164-169-34.hvc.res.rr.com) |
| 06:51.46 | Hans_Henrik | (tried "chown --recursive www-data:www-data /var/www" , i hope thats close enough) |
| 06:52.18 | Hans_Henrik | hmm, seems not |
| 06:53.44 | epitamizor | chown is just for groups not permissions |
| 06:53.59 | PryMar56 | Hans_Henrik, add root to www-data group |
| 06:54.41 | epitamizor | the other question was if E17 relies on systemd |
| 06:54.56 | cardamon | epitamizor: Why would it? |
| 06:54.58 | *** join/#debian SnowflakeHunter (~nagel@x1-6-00-18-4d-e8-4e-32.k773.webspeed.dk) |
| 06:55.14 | epitamizor | maybe thats y its not available? |
| 06:55.22 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@212-149-192-161.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 06:55.47 | *** join/#debian pool (~chatzilla@2001:250:1006:6181:230:67ff:fea9:30b5) |
| 06:56.07 | cardamon | It's not available because there hasn't been a stable release in ever. |
| 06:56.29 | epitamizor | I read on website it just came stable this year |
| 06:56.32 | *** join/#debian Wyzard (~mike@pool-72-81-139-207.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) |
| 06:56.53 | cardamon | epitamizor: Try this month. |
| 06:56.53 | *** join/#debian pool (~chatzilla@2001:250:1006:6181:230:67ff:fea9:30b5) |
| 06:57.12 | epitamizor | I didn't see in repos though |
| 06:57.56 | *** join/#debian poncha (~poncha@unaffiliated/poncha) |
| 06:58.11 | *** join/#debian aculich (~user@108-254-144-117.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 06:58.29 | epitamizor | I prolly just build it but I hope it doesn't req systemd |
| 06:58.41 | cardamon | epitamizor: Why would you? Wheezy's been frozen for longer than it's been out. |
| 06:58.58 | *** join/#debian qu-bit (~shroedngr@unaffiliated/barriers) |
| 06:59.07 | cardamon | Dec 21st was the release. That's barely two weeks. |
| 06:59.19 | *** join/#debian dak (~dustin@ool-43569189.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 06:59.36 | epitamizor | yeah, how do I change to the latest, I tried sid in sources but nothing happened |
| 07:01.07 | epitamizor | e17-dev is in sid |
| 07:01.17 | epitamizor | but I need to change to sid |
| 07:01.23 | cardamon | Is norelatime on by default? |
| 07:01.35 | cardamon | You have a funny concept of "need" |
| 07:02.15 | epitamizor | I need upgrade from openbox to E17 |
| 07:02.27 | *** join/#debian Richmond (~Richmond@112.210.16.5) |
| 07:02.48 | epitamizor | cant stand the other window managers |
| 07:03.41 | epitamizor | e16 was terrible but 17 is sweet |
| 07:04.09 | *** join/#debian Richmond (~Richmond@112.210.16.5) |
| 07:06.24 | *** join/#debian Chizz8l (~Denis@46.211.120.143) |
| 07:06.44 | *** join/#debian jasonwert (~w3rt@96-42-148-132.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) |
| 07:06.58 | feitingen | epitamizor: e16 was pretty good back in the day when there was no better alternative |
| 07:08.26 | epitamizor | k |
| 07:08.52 | *** join/#debian Richmond (~Richmond@112.210.16.5) |
| 07:08.56 | epitamizor | theres prolly one other good manager but cant remember it now |
| 07:09.44 | epitamizor | k i got it working now the sources line was not right |
| 07:10.33 | *** join/#debian Konomi (~Konomi@unaffiliated/konomi) |
| 07:12.09 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 07:12.24 | *** join/#debian edog (~edog@178.172.239.240) |
| 07:12.54 | *** join/#debian Aenigma (~kevin@pool-108-45-74-23.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 07:17.44 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.212.120.45) |
| 07:19.09 | *** join/#debian mike_ (~textual@c-67-173-193-236.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 07:19.13 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1240] by debhelper |
| 07:20.04 | *** join/#debian mike___ (~textual@c-67-173-193-236.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 07:20.15 | epitamizor | i see its hard to mix sid/wheezy |
| 07:20.31 | *** join/#debian r1PPer (~1@188.244.144.11) |
| 07:20.58 | cardamon | !tell epitamizor about frankendebian |
| 07:21.08 | *** join/#debian WorldGenesis (~DEBUG@cpe-67-252-117-243.stny.res.rr.com) |
| 07:21.09 | *** join/#debian mike___ (~textual@c-67-173-193-236.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 07:21.45 | *** join/#debian mike___ (~textual@c-67-173-193-236.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 07:21.53 | jelly-home | ,v e17 |
| 07:21.55 | judd | Package: e17 on i386 -- sid: 0.16.999.70492-2 |
| 07:22.08 | *** join/#debian iliv (~iliv@195.88.15.2) |
| 07:22.37 | cardamon | Oh hey, are we going to stop saying i386 soon? |
| 07:22.42 | *** join/#debian mike___ (~textual@c-67-173-193-236.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 07:22.50 | cardamon | Since it's out of the new kernels :P |
| 07:26.33 | epitamizor | ffffrrrraaaaannnkkkkeeennn....zOmG |
| 07:27.01 | cardamon | Hmm. Any appeal to XFS? |
| 07:28.51 | *** join/#debian phix (~threat@123-243-44-131.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 07:30.05 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.212.120.45) |
| 07:31.11 | *** join/#debian Shirakawasuna (~Shirakawa@184-77-202-94.war.clearwire-wmx.net) |
| 07:35.17 | *** part/#debian kairos (~kairos@unaffiliated/kairos) |
| 07:39.15 | *** join/#debian Sleepy63 (~Sleepy63@pool-173-74-118-50.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) |
| 07:40.47 | *** part/#debian reuf (~reuf_@188.127.108.2) |
| 07:42.27 | *** join/#debian rdqfdx (~rdqfdx@78.90.88.244) |
| 07:49.14 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1231] by debhelper |
| 07:54.47 | *** join/#debian eLenoAr (eLenoAr@you-go.mooo.com) |
| 07:55.28 | *** join/#debian dokma (~kvirc@93-136-7-229.adsl.net.t-com.hr) |
| 07:58.21 | *** join/#debian theta (~theta@c-98-246-29-197.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 07:59.14 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 07:59.38 | *** join/#debian calbasi (~joan@14.66.14.37.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 07:59.55 | *** join/#debian n1x (~n1x@unaffiliated/n1xnc0d3) |
| 08:00.49 | *** join/#debian ocnam (~ocnam@108-90-126-222.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 08:05.53 | *** join/#debian tommy_e (~tommy@5.103.129.67) |
| 08:07.05 | *** join/#debian Ealdor (~Ealdor@134.Red-83-57-123.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 08:09.48 | *** join/#debian Deivan (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 08:10.55 | *** join/#debian [mrx] (~mrx]@2001:470:28:196:5054:ff:fe36:a3eb) |
| 08:13.44 | *** join/#debian qu-bit (~shroedngr@unaffiliated/barriers) |
| 08:14.49 | *** join/#debian soapie (~oi@gateway/tor-sasl/gluu) |
| 08:16.13 | *** join/#debian soldicon (~soldicon@unaffiliated/soldicon) |
| 08:17.01 | *** join/#debian WohthaN (~scarli@137-211-250-178.ftth.cust.kwaoo.net) |
| 08:19.57 | cardamon | ugh, I'm a little stuck, I think. |
| 08:26.08 | cardamon | https://www.dropbox.com/s/wtyp9wag5fpbdgw/IMAG0120.jpg Trying to setup an encrypted LVM here. |
| 08:26.42 | cardamon | https://www.dropbox.com/s/gyu98b31xxxag3e/IMAG0121.jpg |
| 08:27.27 | cardamon | https://www.dropbox.com/s/slu1kg6v8bs67xa/IMAG0122.jpg Do I set it Use as as the mount point or physical volume for encryption here? |
| 08:27.43 | *** join/#debian TomyLobo (~foo@91-64-160-173-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 08:28.46 | cardamon | I assumed leave it as it is, but when I select done on all three, then go to Finish, it asks if I really want to erase data on the LV. I would like to skip this as writing to the entire terabyte is prohibitatively laborous. |
| 08:30.12 | *** join/#debian _sYnfo (~synfo@138.118.broadband11.iol.cz) |
| 08:33.52 | *** join/#debian SubjectOne (section1@78-22-166-21.access.telenet.be) |
| 08:35.33 | *** join/#debian Dreadtower (~robin@host109-158-168-87.range109-158.btcentralplus.com) |
| 08:39.18 | *** join/#debian FnorZ (~cthulhu@unaffiliated/fnorz) |
| 08:39.34 | *** join/#debian KernelDog (~Dog@modemcable045.119-83-70.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 08:39.37 | *** join/#debian magnet_tm (~magnet_tm@79.114.79.87) |
| 08:40.30 | *** join/#debian omid8bimo (~omid@unaffiliated/omid8bimo) |
| 08:43.11 | *** join/#debian ompaul (~ompaul@unaffiliated/ompaul) |
| 08:43.36 | ectospasm | cardamon: yes | ... |
| 08:43.46 | ectospasm | but that may not do what you expect |
| 08:45.43 | cardamon | What? |
| 08:45.59 | *** join/#debian eLenoAr (eLenoAr@you-go.mooo.com) |
| 08:46.58 | *** join/#debian arietis (~arietis@188.242.181.162) |
| 08:47.28 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben@29.29.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz) |
| 08:47.48 | jlgaddis | i set mine up w/ one encrypted volume and LV's on top of that |
| 08:49.26 | cardamon | I'm not even sure I'm doing this right, but I have to wait for it to encrypt the entire freaking terabyte drive to do this? |
| 08:49.41 | *** join/#debian musca (musca@tyrael.eu) |
| 08:49.46 | BenNZ | hi im using wheezy , have a problem everytime on boot i get enter root password or press ctrl d , ive run fsck on both ext4 partitions , both come back clean , i know its not the 2nd ext4 partition tho , it was doing it before that drive was even in the computer |
| 08:49.58 | jlgaddis | no, you're waiting for it to securely erase the existing data on the partitions |
| 08:50.05 | jlgaddis | change "erase data" to "no" to avoid that |
| 08:50.52 | *** join/#debian allorder (~allorder@unaffiliated/allorder) |
| 08:51.41 | *** join/#debian gitsu-sa (~gitsu-sa@unaffiliated/gitsu-sa) |
| 08:51.58 | cardamon | jlgaddis: no takes me back to the same screen |
| 08:52.05 | cardamon | IE I cannot proceed without erasing. |
| 08:52.18 | cardamon | I can either go back and pick a different method. |
| 08:52.29 | cardamon | or erase. |
| 08:52.45 | cardamon | OH, wait. |
| 08:52.47 | cardamon | ... |
| 08:52.49 | *** join/#debian MrJones (~yarca@unaffiliated/mrjones) |
| 08:52.53 | cardamon | nevermind...I'm a moron. |
| 08:53.36 | jlgaddis | i'm guessing that's just the standard warning that proceeding is going to effectively erase your data? |
| 08:55.30 | cardamon | Yeah, no I was mistaking it for something else and clicking no proceeds to the next drive...although this is different...it's asking me for passphrases for each encrypted volume. |
| 08:55.52 | jlgaddis | right, because you're encrypting them all individually |
| 08:56.03 | jlgaddis | you set up three different encrypted volumes |
| 08:57.02 | jlgaddis | although *i think* if you use the same passphrase, it will take the first passphrase you enter (when booting up) and automatically try to use it for the others. but don't quote me on that, i've never set it up that way. |
| 08:57.28 | cardamon | ugh, I tried to go back and delete them but I must have done something. The one vol labled root won't let me delete it. |
| 08:58.03 | *** join/#debian smica (~smica@host-88-132-114-184.prtelecom.hu) |
| 08:58.27 | cardamon | Just says "could not be deleted" ... directs me to virt console 4 where it says "yggdrasil-vg/root" is used by another device |
| 08:59.14 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1237] by debhelper |
| 09:00.08 | gitsu-sa | guys; how much is safe to read from a serial device, and use that data for auto execute a script? |
| 09:00.35 | *** join/#debian biggi_mat (~biggi_mat@89-212-177-1.dynamic.t-2.net) |
| 09:00.42 | gitsu-sa | example: when i get "1" from the device, Debian check updates |
| 09:00.48 | peterrooney | gitsu-sa: how much control do you have over the input? |
| 09:01.03 | gitsu-sa | the input? |
| 09:01.54 | peterrooney | gitsu-sa: do you have control over what data comes over the serial device |
| 09:02.31 | gitsu-sa | ofc, it's a lanless device |
| 09:02.34 | gitsu-sa | it's offline |
| 09:03.01 | gitsu-sa | Debian see it like /dev/ttyACM* |
| 09:03.10 | gitsu-sa | i use USB |
| 09:03.52 | cardamon | https://www.dropbox.com/s/skllie2r0jj2s8u/IMAG0124.jpg How do I delet that Encrypted volume? Can't remove it from the volume group because something, dm-crypt I guess, is using it. |
| 09:04.18 | jlgaddis | cardamon: are you trying to delete the LV from that screen? |
| 09:04.35 | cardamon | jlgaddis: Yeah, tryuing to clear the entire table for sda |
| 09:04.40 | cardamon | So I can start over. |
| 09:04.48 | jlgaddis | "configure encrypted volumes" |
| 09:05.01 | gitsu-sa | peterrooney: the poin si that i want use that system to enable and disable root access... |
| 09:05.05 | gitsu-sa | *is |
| 09:05.10 | jlgaddis | somewhere under there you should be able to delete it, or tell it that you don't want to encrypt that logical volume |
| 09:05.10 | *** join/#debian dondelelcaro (~don@hemlock.ucr.edu) |
| 09:05.11 | gitsu-sa | it need to run as root |
| 09:05.34 | cardamon | There. No. All it is is Create encrypted volumes and Finish |
| 09:05.55 | cardamon | Finish takes me to where I am. |
| 09:06.20 | *** join/#debian sphenxes (~sphenxes@91-119-132-253.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 09:06.25 | jlgaddis | alt-f2, ctrl-alt-del =) |
| 09:06.48 | cardamon | ? |
| 09:07.49 | jlgaddis | restart the installation, effectively |
| 09:08.00 | jlgaddis | that's usually what i do when i screw up, but i'm lazy |
| 09:09.22 | *** join/#debian buibex (~buibex@95.76.228.159) |
| 09:11.18 | *** join/#debian darsie (~username@91-119-222-39.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 09:11.35 | cardamon | So I make a partition, use as physical volume for encryption, configure encrypted on it, make it a lvm, then configure lvm on it? |
| 09:11.42 | *** join/#debian BotaniCar (~kvirc@93-136-24-182.adsl.net.t-com.hr) |
| 09:12.34 | *** join/#debian olegfusion (~olegfusio@46.191.225.38) |
| 09:12.41 | jlgaddis | hang on a minute, i'll show you my layout |
| 09:12.42 | *** join/#debian zw01_ (~zw01@ip70-191-92-37.sb.sd.cox.net) |
| 09:12.51 | cardamon | Is there any way to affect physically where LVM volumes are? I'd like to make sure that swap is still the first physically accessible partition. |
| 09:14.19 | jlgaddis | http://i.imgur.com/LCuiM.png |
| 09:14.40 | *** join/#debian chaiz (~chaiz@ppp-124-121-104-173.revip2.asianet.co.th) |
| 09:15.48 | jlgaddis | i also have win7 on this box, hence the ntfs/fat partitions, basically in your image, https://www.dropbox.com/s/wtyp9wag5fpbdgw/IMAG0120.jpg, you want the #2 partition on scsi1, the 1.0TB LVM one, to be a "physical volume for encryption" or whatever d-i calls it |
| 09:16.03 | *** join/#debian |oop (~pool@c-69-253-114-150.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 09:16.13 | *** join/#debian pAt_ (~pAt@p508FEA60.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:16.34 | jlgaddis | actually, my image probably isn't a good example because my /boot partition is on an external flash drive so it's missing in that image |
| 09:17.27 | cardamon | Boot on an external flash wouldn't do me any good. I'd forget to remove it, and lose it when I did remove it. |
| 09:18.07 | *** join/#debian Tree_Hugger (~Tree_Hugg@65-128-29-150.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 09:18.59 | *** join/#debian elixey (~eilyx@gateway/tor-sasl/eilyx) |
| 09:19.06 | jlgaddis | so, from scratch, create your 200mb ext2 partition for /boot, and use the rest of the drive as a physical volume for encryption. then, configure encrypted volumes and create one (full size) and mark it as a physical volume for lvm. then, you go into configure lvm, and create your logical volumes for swap, /root, and /home. |
| 09:19.15 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1243] by debhelper |
| 09:19.40 | jlgaddis | then, you go back to the main screen, select each logical volume that you created, and configure their fstype, mount point, mount options, etc. |
| 09:19.50 | jlgaddis | does that make sense? |
| 09:20.02 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~ulises11@82.158.225.51.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 09:20.15 | *** join/#debian streuner_ (~streuner@mnhm-5f74eb8e.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 09:20.49 | cardamon | https://www.dropbox.com/s/slu1kg6v8bs67xa/IMAG0125.jpg |
| 09:21.42 | *** join/#debian adb (~IonMoldom@178.211.237.94) |
| 09:23.04 | *** join/#debian x1000_nemo (~pjwall@86-46-99-58-dynamic.b-ras1.wtd.waterford.eircom.net) |
| 09:23.21 | jlgaddis | 404 |
| 09:25.11 | *** join/#debian dreamon__ (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 09:28.44 | *** join/#debian Nandi (~chatzilla@p5DD72894.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:31.21 | ectospasm | !paste |
| 09:31.21 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 09:33.50 | *** join/#debian LaptopBrain (~brain@cpc2-mfld3-0-0-cust139.13-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 09:35.44 | *** join/#debian evilman_home (kvirc@2.93.212.68) |
| 09:35.46 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@h59n1c1o269.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 09:36.23 | *** join/#debian gogogo_ (~frankie82@113.254.72.142) |
| 09:37.39 | jlgaddis | cardamon: figuring it out? |
| 09:38.48 | *** join/#debian Chizz8l (~Denis@46.211.123.52) |
| 09:39.00 | cardamon | Got it. |
| 09:39.18 | cardamon | Gonna head to bed soon. |
| 09:39.27 | jlgaddis | cool, good luck |
| 09:41.01 | *** join/#debian jkfod (~Greg_od@79.140.6.213) |
| 09:41.48 | *** join/#debian Losowski (~Galicja@80.50.231.58) |
| 09:45.45 | *** join/#debian shingouz (~doowop@212-226-41-103-nat.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 09:50.25 | *** join/#debian Sm0kEz__ (~Sm0kEz@95.147.118.59) |
| 09:50.31 | *** join/#debian ralkof (~ralkof@c-a53de155.141-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 09:51.32 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@c-98-210-252-110.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 09:52.01 | *** join/#debian angs (~ubuntu@46-236-109-10.customer.t3.se) |
| 09:52.41 | *** join/#debian chellomere_ (~alex@h-189-136.a189.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 09:53.07 | *** join/#debian serjs (~serjs@79.164.65.242) |
| 09:53.40 | *** join/#debian berarma (~bernat@80.30.67.22) |
| 09:54.26 | *** join/#debian LaptopBrain (~brain@cpc2-mfld3-0-0-cust139.13-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 09:54.58 | *** join/#debian rly (~rly@unaffiliated/rly) |
| 09:55.41 | *** join/#debian rcu (~santa@79.112.138.40) |
| 09:57.21 | *** join/#debian ryanclancy000 (~Ryan@2604:180::9f2:12b) |
| 09:57.23 | *** join/#debian Mangolian (~Wewt|Mang@193.105.7.54) |
| 09:59.11 | zw01_ | hi there -- some googling has lead me to believe that for "sub-minor" kernel version changes (i.e. security patches), apt will overwrite and replace the installed kernel package, and only retains the existing kernel package for more "significant" updates (i.e. 3.2 -> 3.3) |
| 09:59.15 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1249] by debhelper |
| 09:59.16 | zw01_ | firstly, is this correct? |
| 09:59.54 | zw01_ | secondly, is there any way to make it retain old kernel packages, even in the case of minor updates? (i'm guessing the answer is "no" here, but would welcome a correction on that) |
| 10:00.29 | invariant | A disk /dev/sdb1 containing an ext4 partition in an TYPE="LVM2_member" with free space after /dev/sdb1 available needs to be resized such that the ext4 file system takes up the whole drive and I don't want to create more physical volumes. How can this be achieved? |
| 10:01.16 | *** join/#debian a111 (~a111a111@host-2-98-104-178.as13285.net) |
| 10:02.49 | *** join/#debian MaddinXx (~racksteri@zux221-083-035.adsl.green.ch) |
| 10:03.36 | *** join/#debian swex (~quassel@178.17.206.140) |
| 10:04.45 | *** join/#debian pLk (~sherwood@xdsl-92-252-116-178.dip.osnanet.de) |
| 10:05.29 | themill | zw01_: yes (almost -- the kernel is overwritten unless the ABI changes; /msg dpkg kernel abi); no. |
| 10:06.30 | zw01_ | themill: thanks -- so if i'm understanding things properly, an installed-but-not-yet-rebooted-into kernel update is what's broken my systemtap |
| 10:06.42 | themill | that's entirely likely |
| 10:06.45 | *** join/#debian anon6151 (~jc@AMontpellier-652-1-265-48.w90-57.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:06.47 | *** join/#debian xomrk (~bolo@77.87.0.1) |
| 10:06.49 | zw01_ | happen to know if there's any way around that? (without rebooting, which is a bit of a PITA for me at the moment) |
| 10:06.50 | *** join/#debian anon236 (~jc@AMontpellier-652-1-265-48.w90-57.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:07.06 | themill | don't install the kernel package until you're ready to reboot |
| 10:07.28 | *** join/#debian Nandi (~chatzilla@p5DD72894.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:07.31 | zw01_ | yeah, i think that's my takeaway lesson from this -- guess i'll have to keep that in mind in the future |
| 10:07.34 | zw01_ | thanks |
| 10:07.51 | themill | :) |
| 10:08.04 | *** join/#debian HelloShitty (~HelloShit@2.81.233.214) |
| 10:08.07 | zw01_ | (new debian user, still getting used to things) |
| 10:08.49 | *** join/#debian pbase (~pbase@unaffiliated/pbase) |
| 10:08.59 | babilen | zw01_: spend some time with http://debian-handbook.info/ |
| 10:09.30 | *** join/#debian engla (~engla@h51baf329.selucle.dyn.perspektivbredband.net) |
| 10:09.30 | *** join/#debian engla (~engla@wikipedia/Sverdrup) |
| 10:10.13 | invariant | When I asked this question yesterday, I was declared ignorant and got all kinds of personal insults. I did some more research afterwards and I believe that with current tools this is an unsolvable problem without writing lots of software myself. |
| 10:10.37 | invariant | Essentially implementing complete parted backends. |
| 10:10.47 | zw01_ | babilen: thanks for the link, though it's labeled as 6.0 -- is there a wheezy version (what i'm running), or is that guide only published for stable versions? |
| 10:10.54 | pbase | invariant: can i ask your question? |
| 10:11.25 | zw01_ | (though i imagine there's probably enough overlap that it'd still be useful to look at) |
| 10:11.41 | *** join/#debian bimini (~pjwall@86-46-99-58-dynamic.b-ras1.wtd.waterford.eircom.net) |
| 10:11.52 | invariant | pbase, you can. |
| 10:11.52 | pbase | i am looking a way to make gparted work on wheezy |
| 10:12.17 | jlgaddis | invariant: did /dev/sdb come from another machine or something? |
| 10:12.18 | pbase | currently it just stops searching partitions |
| 10:12.31 | babilen | zw01_: A lot of the content in there applies to wheezy as much as it applies to squeze. The only wheezy specific documentation that I am aware of at the moment is the installation guide. |
| 10:12.46 | *** join/#debian r1PPer_1 (~1@79.133.68.248) |
| 10:13.09 | invariant | jlgaddis, no, it just contained an extra ntfs partition which was unacceptably slow due to ntfs drivers. |
| 10:13.23 | invariant | jlgaddis, I removed the ntfs partition and that got me into this state. |
| 10:13.31 | pbase | would it be a good time to switch to gpt partitioning scheme now? |
| 10:13.34 | *** join/#debian streuner_ (~streuner@mnhm-4d0060da.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 10:13.42 | invariant | pbase, if you want to lose all your data. |
| 10:13.43 | *** join/#debian chimay (~chimay@unaffiliated/chimay) |
| 10:13.54 | zw01_ | babilen: alright, thanks -- will keep in mind |
| 10:14.02 | invariant | pbase, most people don't like to lose all their data. |
| 10:14.31 | invariant | pbase, also, since gpt is newer, perhaps gparted doesn't even support it. You would have to check. |
| 10:14.33 | pbase | invariant: i can move my data to a 1 tb external drive |
| 10:14.50 | invariant | pbase, below 2TB gpt has no uses, imho. |
| 10:15.09 | *** join/#debian hrkamizato (Henrique@177.33.112.211) |
| 10:15.12 | jlgaddis | well, /dev/sdb1 is obviously a logical volume, so i'm not sure how you could expand it without creating a PV out of the empty space |
| 10:15.22 | pbase | invariant: that makes sense. thanks |
| 10:15.31 | *** join/#debian Granis` (~granis@c-3ac4e455.017-509-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 10:15.33 | *** join/#debian langkid1 (~langkid1@langkid1.me) |
| 10:16.13 | invariant | jlgaddis, is the performance difference negligible? |
| 10:18.51 | *** join/#debian rafaelgomes_ (~rafaelgom@177.16.254.46) |
| 10:18.55 | *** join/#debian benedict (~benedict@158-47.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 10:20.03 | *** join/#debian Tiffon (~name@unaffiliated/tiff0n) |
| 10:21.19 | benedict | !upstart |
| 10:21.21 | *** join/#debian overdose (~overdose@78-23-138-149.access.telenet.be) |
| 10:21.25 | *** part/#debian overdose (~overdose@78-23-138-149.access.telenet.be) |
| 10:21.38 | jlgaddis | if it were me and i didn't want to use lvm (for some weird reason), i'd probably just copy the data off somewhere, blow away /dev/sdb1, and recreate it using up the whole disk |
| 10:21.44 | benedict | no bot? - so is currently upstart or systemv responsible for runlevel stuff? |
| 10:22.43 | dpkg | Upstart is an event-based replacement for the /sbin/init daemon which handles starting of tasks and services during boot, stopping them during shutdown and supervising them while the system is running. http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ #upstart on irc.freenode.net. See also http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/09/msg00003.html |
| 10:22.56 | jlgaddis | invariant: no idea, i've never benchmarked lvm performance |
| 10:23.35 | benedict | so I take that systemv is still standard on debian |
| 10:24.41 | *** join/#debian ectospasm (~ectospasm@unaffiliated/ectospasm) |
| 10:24.45 | *** join/#debian jakenl (~jaap@2001:980:90d6:1:21e:8cff:fe01:3479) |
| 10:25.26 | jlgaddis | i'm not imagine that lvm introduces any performance penalty that's really measurable, though. and, to me at least, the flexibility lvm provides far outweighs any potential performance issues. |
| 10:26.31 | *** join/#debian dorp (~doorp@184.82.101.254) |
| 10:27.34 | *** join/#debian catsup (~d@64.111.123.163) |
| 10:27.54 | *** join/#debian xBytez (quasselcor@212.83.63.35) |
| 10:27.56 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@mna75-11-88-161-199-178.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 10:29.15 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1255] by debhelper |
| 10:32.19 | *** join/#debian EyesIsMine (~EyesIsMin@WiseOS/Founder/EyesIsMine) |
| 10:33.38 | *** join/#debian Ergo^ (~ergo@hyp-p-107.pabianice.msk.pl) |
| 10:34.22 | *** join/#debian diniwed (~gavron@ool-ad03bcb1.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 10:35.36 | *** join/#debian tom___ (~tom@93.186.156.122) |
| 10:35.47 | dorp | I tried to follow dpkg's notes... I think that I followed them through, but I yet to have a wireless connection. "iwlist scan" indicates that all the interfaces are not supported scanning |
| 10:36.58 | *** join/#debian sizur (~sizur@50-193-2-233-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 10:37.05 | *** join/#debian Mike__ (~mike@80.96.150.76) |
| 10:37.22 | *** part/#debian pbase (~pbase@unaffiliated/pbase) |
| 10:38.27 | *** join/#debian ws2k3 (yucatan@541B077F.cm-5-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 10:38.38 | ws2k3 | who can bruteforce an ssh server for me i am willing to oay for it |
| 10:38.42 | ws2k3 | pay for it |
| 10:38.44 | MrJones | .. |
| 10:38.48 | SomeoneWeird | uh.. |
| 10:39.02 | cardamon | GTFO. |
| 10:39.18 | dorp | *multiarch-support -> libdbus-1-3 -> libhal1 -> libhd16 -> hwinfo ... then firmware-iwlwifi -> libiw30 -> wireless-tools |
| 10:39.38 | dorp | Is there anything more I require for having a wireless connection? |
| 10:39.50 | *** join/#debian streuner__ (~streuner@mnhm-4d00ff10.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 10:39.55 | ws2k3 | who can bruteforce an ssh server for me i''m willing to pay for it pm me |
| 10:40.22 | MrJones | what about we bruteforce you? :P |
| 10:40.46 | wols_ | ws2k3: either you stop or we inform freenode opers and you get a kline |
| 10:40.53 | wols_ | dorp: what does dmesg say? |
| 10:41.03 | *** join/#debian Cyanure (~Cyanure@81-65-188-227.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 10:41.10 | *** part/#debian cardiel_ (~cardiel@213-67-112-99-no171.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 10:41.12 | Guest72192 | wols_ why would he get klined? |
| 10:41.21 | Guest72192 | What he is suggesting isn't against the network rules |
| 10:41.24 | *** join/#debian cardiel (~cardiel@213-67-112-99-no171.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 10:41.28 | MrJones | but it is against the law |
| 10:41.28 | Guest72192 | please, don't be so quick to judge |
| 10:41.29 | MrJones | lol |
| 10:41.30 | Guest72192 | no its not |
| 10:41.31 | wols_ | cause he's waaayyy out of line on the freenode rules |
| 10:41.33 | MrJones | it is |
| 10:41.39 | MrJones | unless it's his own ssh server |
| 10:41.43 | MrJones | which is to be doubted :D |
| 10:41.44 | Guest72192 | under what legistlation? |
| 10:41.51 | themill | points towards #debian-offtopic |
| 10:42.10 | wols_ | in all first world countries computer intrusion is illegal by now |
| 10:42.29 | Guest72192 | the wording of the laws isnt that clear |
| 10:42.40 | wols_ | Guest72192: do you have a debian related problem? |
| 10:42.52 | Guest72192 | yeah |
| 10:42.56 | Guest72192 | I have a problem with the debian support |
| 10:43.52 | dorp | wols_: That's ~1000 lines of output... I tried glancing it but I can't spot anything obvious. `dmesg|grep -i network` shows: "iwl3945: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG/BG Network Connection driver for Linux 1.2.26ks" |
| 10:44.17 | *** join/#debian jkfod (~Greg_od@79.140.6.213) |
| 10:44.20 | ZeroBeholder | ...especially that bastard Zerobeholder. That guy sent all my pron to /dev/null! |
| 10:44.27 | wols_ | dorp: then pastebin it from that line onwards |
| 10:45.22 | dorp | wols_: I'm internet-less, so it will take a few minutes |
| 10:45.27 | jlgaddis | mutters something about the double your money back guarantee if you're not satisifed w/ support from #debian |
| 10:45.36 | *** join/#debian Greedi (~Greedi@unaffiliated/greedi) |
| 10:45.46 | wols_ | dorp: no ethernet on your laptop? |
| 10:45.49 | *** join/#debian dawud (~dawud@24.Red-79-157-77.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 10:46.20 | dorp | wols_: No cable nor wired access to internet |
| 10:47.08 | dorp | wols_: I'm using a secondary laptop with a working wireless for downloading the required packages |
| 10:47.17 | wols_ | dorp: are you new to debian or linux? if so, I suggest wheezy cd1 to install then. cause then you get all the good toys like wpasupplicant on the CD. hunting for it manually is very tedious on squeeze |
| 10:47.50 | wols_ | and all you need is the iwl firmware to make it work which you have to download via packages.debian.org |
| 10:48.32 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@233.58.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 10:48.35 | dorp | wols_: I'm new to linux when it comes to drivers/setup etc. Isn't the iwl firmware is: "firmware-iwlwifi*"? |
| 10:48.47 | *** join/#debian [Ov-]wl (~lol2@cpc6-chap7-2-0-cust73.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 10:49.14 | *** join/#debian kain88 (~kain88@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de) |
| 10:49.15 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1261] by debhelper |
| 10:49.30 | wols_ | dorp: it is but that isn't all you need to access a properly administed WLAN AP |
| 10:49.40 | *** join/#debian Mike__ (~mike@80.96.150.76) |
| 10:49.41 | wols_ | you are using WPA or better WPA2, right? |
| 10:50.01 | dorp | wols_: WPA2 |
| 10:50.32 | *** join/#debian pruegeLknabu (~sherwood@xdsl-92-252-116-178.dip.osnanet.de) |
| 10:51.05 | wols_ | so you will need wpasupplicant which will be a PITA to set up the way you will have to do it |
| 10:51.07 | *** join/#debian Gerben (~Gerben@5ED7316D.cm-7-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 10:52.00 | *** join/#debian TheGrey (~TheGrey__@b0fc2b4b.bb.sky.com) |
| 10:52.20 | dorp | wols_: There aren't guides available for beginners? A beginner can't handle setting up a wireless network connection+WPA2? :\ |
| 10:52.27 | *** join/#debian Carlop (~quassel@120.52.16.95.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 10:53.01 | wols_ | they can. but getting all the packages the way you do is very tedious since you have to manually hunt for dependencies. which is why I suggest wheezy CD1 |
| 10:53.32 | *** join/#debian mr0wl (~quassel@unaffiliated/mr0wl) |
| 10:53.41 | *** join/#debian zir0faive (~zir0faive@cty37-1-78-214-92-19.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 10:54.18 | dorp | wols_: Could you give me a hint of how many dependencies are we talking about? Is it ~10 or much more? |
| 10:54.25 | babilen | wols_, dorp: DVD1 might be an even better idea as it contains network-manager-gnome -- But the wheezy installer (and the kmuto one) does support wireless connections via WPA(2) so dorp could just use the netinstall image |
| 10:54.56 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben@29.29.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz) |
| 10:55.01 | dorp | babilen: Isn't the gnome belongs to the GUI interface? Is there an easy solution without GUI? |
| 10:55.06 | wols_ | dorp: in that area it was last time |
| 10:55.06 | babilen | dorp: Wireless connections and ways to manage them are covered in http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
| 10:55.11 | *** join/#debian project2501b (~kot@109.171.130.211) |
| 10:55.19 | wols_ | dorp: without GUI you can use wicd |
| 10:55.25 | *** join/#debian Infiltrator (~tim@unaffiliated/infiltrator) |
| 10:55.37 | *** join/#debian TheJH (~TheJH@wikipedia/TheJH) |
| 10:56.47 | *** join/#debian [SkG] (~sconde@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) |
| 10:56.53 | babilen | dorp: Well, configuration of network-manager is most easily done using its applet (nm-applet) - You do however don't need a running Xorg to initiate system connections (i.e. those that are available to all users) -- Don't you plan to use Xorg at all? |
| 10:56.54 | *** join/#debian b_52globe (~b_52globe@41.249.38.32) |
| 10:57.43 | dorp | babilen: No, I would like this env to be accessible via SSH- I would like to imitate the env I have setup on my remote servers |
| 10:58.03 | babilen | dorp: There certainly are alternatives to NM, but I personally find wicd to be lacking in features these days (but it has a nice ncurses based interface) -- Do you have to connect to different networks or just a single one? |
| 10:58.28 | dorp | babilen: One network |
| 10:58.44 | wols_ | babilen: but wicd is small and easy :) |
| 11:00.11 | babilen | dorp: Ok, in that case it is definitely the best idea to simply configure it in /etc/network/interfaces using wpa_supplicant. The procedure is covered in http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wpa_supplicant -- The wheezy installer will configure your wireless network that way if you configure it during the installation. You do need firmware for your adaptor though which is why I would recommend to use an image with it. You can get that from ... |
| 11:00.17 | babilen | ... http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ (daily or beta4) |
| 11:00.40 | babilen | dpkg: tell dorp -about installer firmware |
| 11:00.56 | *** join/#debian Carlop (~quassel@120.52.16.95.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 11:01.05 | *** join/#debian _polto_ (~polto@adsl0462ge.worldcom.ch) |
| 11:01.05 | *** join/#debian _polto_ (~polto@fsf/member/polto) |
| 11:01.24 | *** join/#debian fisted (~fisted@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 11:01.45 | dorp | babilen: So it's an option to follow the wpa_supplicant guide without the need for a different installer? |
| 11:01.49 | babilen | dpkg: You can also provide firmware on a usb drive, but that is a bit tricky if you plan to install from a USB one. And if the images are available with firmware then why not use them (unless you don't want non-free firmware, but then you cannot use your hardware) |
| 11:01.49 | dpkg | I resemble that remark! |
| 11:02.00 | babilen | argh! |
| 11:02.03 | babilen | dorp: ^^^ |
| 11:02.42 | dorp | babilen: I'm on a 3G connection so I'm rather limited |
| 11:02.47 | babilen | dorp: Well, I have no idea what you have installed right now and what is missing. You /might/ be able to follow those instructions just fine /if/ you have the firmware and wpasupplicant installed |
| 11:03.04 | dorp | babilen: Okay, so I'll try these instructions and see what happens |
| 11:03.25 | babilen | dorp: Err, I was assuming that you are connecting to a wireless network not a 3G one - Could you elaborate on that. |
| 11:03.43 | *** join/#debian Carlop (~quassel@120.52.16.95.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 11:03.48 | dorp | babilen: My wireless connection is a 3G one :) |
| 11:04.11 | dorp | babilen: I have a WiFi router which has a SIM for 3G connectivity |
| 11:05.32 | babilen | dorp: How is the computer conencted? Does /it/ have to configure the 3G connection or is it simply connected via a normal wireless network? |
| 11:05.53 | dorp | babilen: It simply connected via a normal wireless network |
| 11:06.03 | *** join/#debian alimj (~alimirjam@91.98.37.98) |
| 11:06.31 | dorp | wols_: Is there a preferred pastebin website? Or just to use the first one I find? |
| 11:06.41 | *** join/#debian gour_ (~gour@unaffiliated/gour) |
| 11:07.33 | babilen | dorp: In that case the fact that it is a 3G connection should make no difference whatsoever to the configuration of you Debian box. (all it sees is the wireless network) -- Could you check if you have the necessary packages installed by running "dpkg -l wireless-tools firmware-iwlwifi wpasupplicant" please? (they have to be listed with ii at the beginning) |
| 11:07.40 | jlgaddis | !pastebin |
| 11:07.41 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 11:07.42 | babilen | dorp: We tend to prefer http://paste.debian.net |
| 11:07.42 | *** join/#debian chomwitt (~chomwitt@ppp-94-64-30-43.home.otenet.gr) |
| 11:08.04 | *** join/#debian Buumi (~buumi@dsl-vsabrasgw1-54fb61-71.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 11:08.40 | *** join/#debian maxxe (~maxxe@unaffiliated/maxxe) |
| 11:08.46 | dorp | babilen: My comment on the 3G connection was that it's rather low bandwidth, so I'd prefer not to spend hours on downloading full installations |
| 11:09.06 | dorp | babilen: I've installed: multiarch-support -> libdbus-1-3 -> libhal1 -> libhd16 -> hwinfo ... then firmware-iwlwifi -> libiw30 -> wireless-tools |
| 11:09.09 | babilen | dorp: Ah, alright. I misunderstood the relevance :) |
| 11:09.15 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1268] by debhelper |
| 11:09.27 | jimcooncat | How come update manager shows "Downloading list of changes...", but the list is never downloaded? |
| 11:09.28 | *** join/#debian [Ov-]wl (~lol2@cpc6-chap7-2-0-cust73.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 11:09.38 | dorp | babilen: So "wpasupplicant" is next, I guess |
| 11:09.47 | babilen | You also need wpasupplicant + dependencies -- But check the output of "dpkg -l wpasupplicant" please |
| 11:09.59 | babilen | jimcooncat: Please paste the output of "apt-get update" to http://paste.debian.net |
| 11:10.07 | *** join/#debian CutMeOwnThroat (~boo@unaffiliated/iridos) |
| 11:10.09 | dorp | babilen: "No packages found matching wpasupplicant" |
| 11:10.54 | babilen | dorp: Well, looks as if you have to install it. Allow me the question why you didn't configure your wireless network during the installation though |
| 11:11.10 | babilen | dorp: Once you've done that you can configure the network as detailed on the wiki |
| 11:11.32 | babilen | dorp: You want "wireless-mode" to be "Managed" btw |
| 11:11.37 | *** join/#debian terr1 (~terr1@d40a51e9.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 11:12.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | didn't I ask just that about 12 hours ago? |
| 11:12.24 | dorp | babilen: I actually done this or a similar process a year ago, on a different laptop. It took me about an hour to do it "manually"... so I figured it should be pretty much straight-forward with this laptop... guess I was wrong :) |
| 11:12.28 | *** join/#debian chomwitt (~chomwitt@ppp-94-64-30-43.home.otenet.gr) |
| 11:12.41 | jimcooncat | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/224217 |
| 11:14.47 | *** join/#debian Royaflash (~Royaflash@5.117.125.248) |
| 11:14.50 | *** join/#debian m8 (~mor@unaffiliated/m8) |
| 11:15.17 | dorp | wols_: Sorry for the delay: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/8440d2a8/ |
| 11:15.28 | Royaflash | Do you know about java canal |
| 11:16.35 | *** join/#debian |DM| (~Wewt|Mang@unaffiliated/cocomango) |
| 11:19.56 | *** join/#debian anonym (~java@80-219-113-59.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 11:20.02 | *** join/#debian chaispaquichui (~gudule_bo@155.246-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 11:22.18 | dorp | Okay, installed libnl1, libpcsclite1, libpcap0.8, and now I have wpasupplicant .. now I'll follow the guide and see what happens |
| 11:22.27 | ectospasm | I just upgraded this VPS from squeeze to sid. My wordpress site now gives me the white screen of death, apparently. I'm a little lost as to where to begin... |
| 11:22.43 | hramrach | I have this very weird problem with network card |
| 11:22.47 | babilen | jimcooncat: You have two invalidly names sources.list files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ installed from third-party repositories (namely google-chrome.list.save) |
| 11:22.49 | ectospasm | the guides here: https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wp-adminindexphp-gives-blank-page don't seem to work |
| 11:22.53 | hramrach | I netboot this machine |
| 11:23.01 | hramrach | and most of the time it does not netboot |
| 11:23.02 | babilen | dorp: enjoy |
| 11:23.30 | dorp | babilen: I think "good luck" is more suited :) |
| 11:23.32 | jimcooncat | babilen: thanks, I saw that. I'll try removing it to see if that helps |
| 11:24.02 | hramrach | I tried various IRQ options and it did not help |
| 11:24.04 | *** join/#debian bjelleklang_ (~chris@81.166.225.216) |
| 11:24.26 | hramrach | but booting a live system form USB worked first try |
| 11:24.30 | *** join/#debian Droolio (~drool@host86-178-33-182.range86-178.btcentralplus.com) |
| 11:25.04 | hramrach | thinking of it the first netbooting worked fine too but then I tried to reboot to see how it goes and could not boot anymore |
| 11:25.27 | *** join/#debian streuner_ (~streuner@mnhm-5f751a02.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 11:26.02 | *** join/#debian valgrind (~valgrind@195.Red-88-15-125.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 11:29.08 | *** join/#debian edog (~edog@178.172.239.240) |
| 11:29.34 | *** join/#debian oberling (~oberling@141.45.146.80) |
| 11:30.42 | *** join/#debian chomwitt (~chomwitt@ppp-94-64-30-43.home.otenet.gr) |
| 11:30.47 | *** join/#debian Garfield29335873 (~Garfield2@ip-178-201-101-212.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 11:31.28 | *** join/#debian jehan (~jehan@kiel4-dmz.gis.de) |
| 11:32.52 | *** join/#debian chomwitt_ (~chomwitt@ppp-94-64-30-43.home.otenet.gr) |
| 11:33.54 | *** join/#debian Armand (~martin@cpc17-haye16-2-0-cust427.haye.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 11:33.57 | *** join/#debian Mark- (~mark@f050207247.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 11:34.42 | *** join/#debian richweskus (~gethosted@cpc7-pres16-2-0-cust431.18-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 11:35.56 | *** join/#debian tommy_e (~tommy@5.103.129.67) |
| 11:37.26 | *** join/#debian Cavedude (~quassel@cpc11-finc13-2-0-cust520.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 11:38.02 | *** join/#debian Mac101 (~Mac@host86-179-47-24.range86-179.btcentralplus.com) |
| 11:39.09 | *** join/#debian anonym (~java@80-219-113-59.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 11:40.29 | *** join/#debian Coffeecoco (~warirc@115-64-99-160.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 11:45.10 | *** join/#debian crank1988 (~crank1988@178-84-207-74.dynamic.upc.nl) |
| 11:45.35 | *** join/#debian gauteh (~gaute@cE6835BC1.dhcp.as2116.net) |
| 11:47.43 | *** join/#debian imran-uk (~imran@188-222-192-73.zone13.bethere.co.uk) |
| 11:48.48 | *** join/#debian slv (~slv@c-24-91-117-99.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 11:51.45 | *** join/#debian Walzmyn (~quassel@50.96.100.106) |
| 11:52.00 | *** join/#debian davi (davi@wilbur.25thandclement.com) |
| 11:52.01 | *** join/#debian davi (davi@gnu/davi) |
| 11:52.51 | *** join/#debian joj (1689877@unaffiliated/joj) |
| 11:54.14 | *** join/#debian arif-ali (~arif-ali@94-192-24-56.zone6.bethere.co.uk) |
| 11:56.40 | *** join/#debian beboj (~beboj@c83-251-127-25.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 11:57.00 | *** join/#debian valgrind (~valgrind@195.red-88-15-125.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) |
| 11:57.06 | *** join/#debian Chizz8l (~Denis@46.211.121.102) |
| 11:57.22 | dorp | Okay, the good news: iwlist scan now actually scanning. The bad news: I've done so many 'steps' I'm uncertain about the actual routine. So I'm reinstalling it fresh and try to follow the path and have everything written down... |
| 11:58.30 | *** join/#debian valgrind (~valgrind@195.red-88-15-125.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) |
| 11:59.16 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1277] by debhelper |
| 12:00.59 | *** join/#debian streuner__ (~streuner@mnhm-4d01aa29.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 12:02.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | dorp, going to try to use the installer first? |
| 12:02.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | dorp, there's actually a lot of ways that can help you to get stuff installed from usb stick |
| 12:02.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, tell dorp about apt-zip |
| 12:02.39 | *** part/#debian Chizz8l (~Denis@46.211.121.102) |
| 12:03.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | dorp, the simplest of which, btw is apt-get install --print-uri somepackage |
| 12:03.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:03.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | dorp, the simplest of which, btw is apt-get install --print-uris somepackage |
| 12:04.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | because... (hopefully) on debian there's no reason EVER to resolve dependencies manually |
| 12:05.02 | *** join/#debian lukas__ (~lukas@194.228.13.47) |
| 12:05.03 | *** join/#debian Leconite (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/leconite) |
| 12:05.37 | *** join/#debian freeayu (~freeayu2@125.78.37.186) |
| 12:05.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | and I wanted to say that yesterday.. but first you were gone when I answered and then I was gone when you were back |
| 12:05.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | so... kinda just like now |
| 12:05.49 | *** join/#debian TIBS01 (~TIBS01@b0ff5983.bb.sky.com) |
| 12:06.27 | dorp | Thanks :) |
| 12:07.41 | *** join/#debian rhom (~rho@49.244.37.39) |
| 12:07.44 | *** join/#debian Pacma (~Pacma@81.184.155.178.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 12:08.17 | *** part/#debian rhom (~rho@49.244.37.39) |
| 12:08.41 | *** join/#debian MaddinXx (~racksteri@zux221-083-035.adsl.green.ch) |
| 12:10.46 | *** join/#debian axxis (~axxis@c-68-54-222-226.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 12:12.10 | *** join/#debian drinkycrow (~drinkycro@c-98-212-215-137.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 12:12.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | just like now :P |
| 12:13.19 | *** join/#debian rAd0n (~WhoWho@81.172.60.162.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 12:13.28 | *** join/#debian WildTux (~WildTux@128.66.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 12:13.39 | *** join/#debian Nrth (nrth@cpc10-nrte22-2-0-cust127.8-4.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 12:16.16 | *** join/#debian bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@80.30.193.62) |
| 12:16.41 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 12:18.27 | *** join/#debian TheJH (~TheJH@wikipedia/TheJH) |
| 12:18.36 | *** join/#debian chimay (~chimay@unaffiliated/chimay) |
| 12:20.54 | *** join/#debian Hugh_Man (~kvirc@c-68-61-229-187.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 12:23.36 | *** join/#debian zyppr (netadmin@ipv6.smartvbox.com) |
| 12:24.08 | *** join/#debian cobra-the-joker (~Nour@unaffiliated/cobra-the-joker) |
| 12:24.35 | zyppr | where can i get official additional repos for the squeeze? |
| 12:25.02 | *** join/#debian Jwks (~kvirc@87.251.141.119) |
| 12:27.17 | *** join/#debian Kriminel (~me@79.114.56.118) |
| 12:27.18 | *** join/#debian Kriminel (~me@unaffiliated/kriminel) |
| 12:27.27 | themill | zyppr: what do you mean? |
| 12:27.52 | themill | (or rather, what are you looking for?) |
| 12:28.32 | *** join/#debian BK_ (Buland@nat/redhat/x-owfuwmwxwirxxbxw) |
| 12:28.44 | *** join/#debian gogogo_ (~frankie82@113.254.72.142) |
| 12:29.03 | *** part/#debian alimj (~alimirjam@91.98.37.98) |
| 12:29.37 | *** join/#debian BKS (Buland@nat/redhat/x-hwyuuycjhgzwumji) |
| 12:30.33 | *** join/#debian TheGrey (~TheGrey__@b0fc2b4b.bb.sky.com) |
| 12:30.59 | zyppr | im on 6.0 squeeze now |
| 12:31.05 | zyppr | i want to upgrade to 6.0.6 |
| 12:31.09 | zyppr | how will i do that? |
| 12:31.29 | streuner__ | !security |
| 12:31.30 | dpkg | Put "deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in stable. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade" (or "aptitude full-upgrade" if the updates are kept back). Also ask me about <dsa>, <security backports>, <oldstable security>, <testing security>, <unstable security>. |
| 12:31.30 | themill | dpkg: tell zyppr about make squeeze sources.list |
| 12:32.04 | *** join/#debian Holborn (~holborn@unaffiliated/holborn) |
| 12:32.52 | zyppr | oks |
| 12:33.07 | *** join/#debian xomrk (~bolo@77.87.0.1) |
| 12:33.16 | *** join/#debian ajaykools (~ajay@117.202.105.18) |
| 12:34.04 | *** join/#debian duraa (~dura@cpc3-live12-0-0-cust114.know.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 12:34.21 | *** join/#debian r1PPer (~1@188.244.144.11) |
| 12:34.31 | duraa | Hi everybody. I just installed openbox on sid, but icons are not showing at all in pcmanfm |
| 12:34.44 | *** join/#debian e-anima (~eanima@p5DD8FD25.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:35.06 | duraa | I have installed malys icons, and clarity but they just wont work- only faenza do |
| 12:35.22 | Jwks | Hi! help me plz to install proprietary driver ATI. http://pastebin.com/uHG4fJ9G |
| 12:35.46 | zyppr | root@vpn:~# aptitude full-upgrade |
| 12:35.47 | zyppr | No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. |
| 12:35.47 | zyppr | 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 12:35.47 | zyppr | Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used. |
| 12:35.47 | zyppr | root@vpn:~# cat /etc/issue |
| 12:35.47 | zyppr | Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 \n \l |
| 12:35.47 | *** kick/#debian [zyppr!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (flood) |
| 12:35.47 | *** join/#debian zyppr (netadmin@ipv6.smartvbox.com) |
| 12:35.59 | zyppr | sorry |
| 12:36.09 | zyppr | wasn't meant to paste here |
| 12:36.29 | zyppr | still im on 6.0 |
| 12:37.01 | *** join/#debian streuner_ (~streuner@mnhm-4d006134.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 12:37.16 | *** join/#debian crank1988 (~crank1988@178-84-207-74.dynamic.upc.nl) |
| 12:37.41 | xand | zyppr: try "aptitude update" first |
| 12:38.45 | *** join/#debian BKS (Buland@nat/redhat/x-wehaiilukvawqosd) |
| 12:39.09 | themill | zyppr: what does "cat /etc/debian_version" say? |
| 12:40.07 | *** join/#debian nagarkot (~nagarkot_@224.49.100.220.dy.bbexcite.jp) |
| 12:40.55 | xand | yeah that too |
| 12:40.56 | *** join/#debian bimini (~pjwall@86-46-99-58-dynamic.b-ras1.wtd.waterford.eircom.net) |
| 12:41.07 | *** join/#debian BKS (Buland@nat/redhat/x-hbmqlzmvunrmdlqk) |
| 12:41.18 | zyppr | ah |
| 12:41.22 | zyppr | oks |
| 12:41.47 | zyppr | 2.6.32-5-amd64 <-- does this kernel supports grsec? |
| 12:43.21 | *** join/#debian Beast (~TheBeast@pc-159-2-101-190.cm.vtr.net) |
| 12:45.14 | *** join/#debian milosn_ (~milosn@user-5AF50394.broadband.tesco.net) |
| 12:47.39 | *** join/#debian slacker_nl (~slakkie@pdpc/supporter/active/slacker) |
| 12:47.51 | *** join/#debian ZzzoOk (~suraj@host-87-255-24-88.bigtelecom.ru) |
| 12:47.55 | duraa | Can anyone help me with my icons issue please? I am running linuxbbq, which I built from a base. Clarity icons come installed, but they dont work. Just instead very basic images in lxappearance, and no icons showing in pcmanfm. They work though in tint2. I installed some icon engines, but I'm at an end |
| 12:48.05 | *** part/#debian ZzzoOk (~suraj@host-87-255-24-88.bigtelecom.ru) |
| 12:49.19 | *** join/#debian geenna (~geenna@95.239.195.26) |
| 12:51.20 | *** join/#debian movl (~arares@unaffiliated/movl) |
| 12:51.37 | zyppr | and also, how can i view installed packages like pkg_info in bsd |
| 12:52.36 | dorp | Okay guys, seems like the wireless internet is now working. I very much appreciate your support! |
| 12:53.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | .win dorp |
| 12:53.34 | *** join/#debian Armand (~martin@cpc17-haye16-2-0-cust427.haye.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 12:53.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | err |
| 12:53.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | !win dorp |
| 12:53.39 | dpkg | Congratulations, dorp! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 12:53.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | \o/ |
| 12:53.50 | dorp | :) |
| 12:54.28 | Armand | !fail CutMeOwnThroat |
| 12:54.34 | Armand | Damn. :P |
| 12:54.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | !pal Armand |
| 12:54.38 | dpkg | points at Armand and laughs uproariously |
| 12:54.43 | Armand | ^_^ |
| 12:55.08 | *** join/#debian mns (~mns@c-24-63-48-219.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 12:56.05 | *** join/#debian tom___ (~tom@93.186.156.122) |
| 12:56.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | among the 4 mindmapping programs in debian... any of them much better than the others? |
| 12:56.26 | *** join/#debian Ergo^ (~ergo@hyp-p-107.pabianice.msk.pl) |
| 12:56.48 | hramrach | some time ago I tried one or two |
| 12:56.57 | hramrach | and went to pen and paper |
| 12:57.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | I used to use kdissert and it... kind of did the thing, but not overly well |
| 12:57.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | heh |
| 12:57.25 | *** join/#debian ryan__ (~ryan@ip-dhcp-66-241-166-84.dsl.blr.abbnebraska.com) |
| 12:57.43 | ryan__ | #crunchbang |
| 12:57.47 | hramrach | ovoided that one because I did not want to install all of kde libs |
| 12:57.56 | hramrach | *a |
| 12:58.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh well... as I still kinda remember that, only 3 more to try |
| 12:58.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | pretty sure I tried others and they sucked more |
| 12:58.48 | *** join/#debian ryan__ (~ryan@ip-dhcp-66-241-166-84.dsl.blr.abbnebraska.com) |
| 12:59.15 | ryan__ | anyone have experience using bitlbee to do facebook im? |
| 12:59.37 | *** join/#debian Haris (Haris@182.177.246.189) |
| 12:59.38 | *** join/#debian Haris (Haris@unaffiliated/haris) |
| 12:59.41 | hramrach | I guess you need a fb account |
| 12:59.49 | hramrach | which I don't have |
| 13:00.18 | *** join/#debian buibex (~buibex@95.76.228.159) |
| 13:00.24 | hramrach | reportedly it works to some extetnt for some people |
| 13:00.38 | hramrach | but the fb server is flaky |
| 13:01.53 | ryan__ | I was trying to use finch with the facebookchat plugin but couldnt get that to work |
| 13:02.31 | hramrach | it possibly uses different im library |
| 13:02.44 | hramrach | so might work or fail in different way |
| 13:03.09 | ryan__ | could be cause im using debian squeeze |
| 13:03.28 | hramrach | that's old |
| 13:03.32 | ryan__ | I know finch is based on pidgin and pidgin doesnt support facebook chat by default which is why i use empathy |
| 13:03.48 | hramrach | im is kida moving target |
| 13:03.56 | *** join/#debian zyppr (netadmin@my.smartvbox.com) |
| 13:04.01 | hramrach | some protocols are stable, others are proprietary |
| 13:04.15 | ryan__ | ya I run crunchbang statler which is based on debian squeeze on my laptop |
| 13:04.21 | hramrach | fb falls in the latter category although it's 'jabber compatible' |
| 13:04.38 | ryan__ | ya dont see jabber support in finch |
| 13:04.47 | ryan__ | course forgot to check for a plugin for that |
| 13:05.00 | hramrach | then no wonder it does not work |
| 13:05.16 | ryan__ | tilts head |
| 13:05.28 | *** join/#debian marvinstuart (~marvinstu@cpe-184-57-132-151.cinci.res.rr.com) |
| 13:05.55 | *** join/#debian dsirijus (~dsirijus@cpe-109-60-92-147.zg3.cable.xnet.hr) |
| 13:06.56 | *** join/#debian Xanthor (~Xanthor@ip-76.net-81-220-166.nice.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 13:07.40 | laite | Hi, is gnome3 going to be the default DE in wheezy? |
| 13:08.00 | ryan__ | i tried under xmpp and couldnt get iti to work either |
| 13:08.03 | hramrach | the default DE is going to be fbcon ;-) |
| 13:08.27 | laite | :) |
| 13:08.44 | hramrach | ryan__: try looking for a more recent backport of the im packages |
| 13:09.01 | hramrach | and then ask in the im channels when you are not using totally ancient version |
| 13:09.08 | hramrach | also how does it fail? |
| 13:09.16 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1283] by debhelper |
| 13:09.24 | hramrach | at least bitlbee has a channel |
| 13:09.32 | *** join/#debian TonyL (~TonyL@5.231.4.56) |
| 13:09.33 | *** join/#debian TonyL (~TonyL@unaffiliated/darkg) |
| 13:10.08 | hramrach | laite: otherwise you can pick a DE in tasksel or whatever |
| 13:10.20 | *** join/#debian floogy (~gerhard@p579A5B55.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:10.20 | *** join/#debian gogogo_ (~frankie82@113.254.72.142) |
| 13:10.28 | hramrach | it's not like Debian forces a particular DE on you |
| 13:11.01 | Armand | pets KDE |
| 13:11.08 | *** join/#debian chomwitt (~chomwitt@ppp-94-69-229-71.home.otenet.gr) |
| 13:11.14 | hramrach | pets xmonad |
| 13:12.02 | hramrach | now that one is probablly not listed in tasksel ;-) |
| 13:12.23 | *** join/#debian NeSk (NeSk@ABayonne-157-1-63-249.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 13:12.44 | *** join/#debian amgarchIn9 (~amgarchin@p4FD60ADD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:13.41 | *** join/#debian r1PPer (~1@79.133.68.248) |
| 13:15.22 | floogy | Hi, I need to give someone access to a particular vhost htdocs folder of a website, or region in that site to upload a page for that site. How to achieve that the best way, without installing additional software. I'll maybe try to get scp working with a openSSH chrooted vhost. Is that a good approach? |
| 13:16.12 | laite | hramrach: Yeah, I'm sure; mostly I just asked out of curiosity since a lot of people don't bother (or know to) changing the default anyway |
| 13:17.01 | hramrach | it's a step during installation. I suspect gnome is preselected but I don't install so I would not know |
| 13:17.22 | hramrach | last time I installed debian I used debootstrap which lacks this step |
| 13:17.32 | floogy | I found these howtos http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/590 |
| 13:17.51 | floogy | http://binblog.info/2008/04/06/openssh-chrooted-sftp-eg-for-webhosting/ |
| 13:18.35 | hramrach | floogy: have you looked into some containers like OpenVZ or what? |
| 13:18.42 | hramrach | somewhat more secure than chroot |
| 13:20.25 | *** join/#debian Ergo^ (~ergo@hyp-p-107.pabianice.msk.pl) |
| 13:20.38 | *** join/#debian phaer (~phaer@chello080108051063.9.11.vie.surfer.at) |
| 13:22.27 | *** join/#debian crank1988|2 (~crank1988@178-84-207-74.dynamic.upc.nl) |
| 13:23.08 | floogy | No, it's already a virtuozzo vserver I'm running. I guess there is no way to get another vz working. Also the server is a bit sluggish. |
| 13:23.33 | *** join/#debian Nandi (~chatzilla@p5DD72894.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:23.58 | *** join/#debian Greedi (~Greedi@unaffiliated/greedi) |
| 13:27.48 | *** join/#debian dgm_077 (~dgm_077@p5DDC018F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:28.20 | *** join/#debian cantoma (~jduro@cpc4-bath5-2-0-cust117.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 13:28.38 | *** join/#debian streuner__ (~streuner@mnhm-590e79ce.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 13:30.32 | *** join/#debian axxis (~axxis@c-68-54-222-226.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 13:30.37 | *** join/#debian HardDisk_WP (~marco@stella.vm-dg.de) |
| 13:30.38 | *** join/#debian HardDisk_WP (~marco@wikipedia/harddisk) |
| 13:31.36 | *** join/#debian LordDeath (~LordDeath@cable-81-173-167-204.netcologne.de) |
| 13:31.56 | *** join/#debian jehan (~jehan@kiel4-dmz.gis.de) |
| 13:33.00 | *** join/#debian alkul (~alk@80.red-83-61-36.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) |
| 13:36.15 | *** join/#debian Supernova (~EyesIsMin@WiseOS/Founder/EyesIsMine) |
| 13:38.40 | *** join/#debian cardpuncher (~chatzilla@ip-34.net-89-2-153.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 13:39.49 | *** join/#debian oliver_ (d9d2bde6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.210.189.230) |
| 13:41.31 | *** join/#debian junix659 (~ameyer@71-81-141-178.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 13:41.31 | oliver_ | hi there, I set chmod 2775 on a directory and now I cant remove it, I tried both chmod 775 and 0775 but the permissions stays the same |
| 13:41.33 | oliver_ | its |
| 13:41.34 | *** join/#debian jklaz (~jklaz@46.12.119.158.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 13:41.34 | oliver_ | drwxrwsr-x |
| 13:41.37 | oliver_ | but i want |
| 13:41.48 | oliver_ | drwxrwxr-x |
| 13:42.04 | *** join/#debian pbase (~pbase@unaffiliated/pbase) |
| 13:42.06 | oliver_ | how can I solve that? |
| 13:42.28 | *** join/#debian somazero (somazero@wsip-184-189-105-50.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 13:42.55 | floogy | chmod o-s ? |
| 13:43.14 | cardpuncher | Hi, what's the best mean from a mere user standpoint to request a package to be updated from testing despite the freeze? |
| 13:43.22 | *** join/#debian ToApolytoXaos (~ToApolyto@46.21.62.128) |
| 13:43.26 | *** join/#debian Leconite (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/leconite) |
| 13:43.48 | *** join/#debian arietis (~arietis@188.242.181.162) |
| 13:44.03 | themill | cardpuncher: what package are we talking about here? |
| 13:44.09 | oliver_ | floogy: wont work, either |
| 13:45.00 | floogy | oliver_, I expect that you use it as root |
| 13:45.06 | cardpuncher | themill: gtk-gnutella, nothing depends on it and version 0.9.84 has notable bug fixes and documentation improvements so I thought an update would really make sense. |
| 13:45.15 | *** join/#debian max999 (~max@chello062178215188.10.15.vie.surfer.at) |
| 13:45.15 | *** join/#debian max999 (~max@unaffiliated/max999) |
| 13:45.29 | *** join/#debian jackbrown (~se@93-44-76-167.ip96.fastwebnet.it) |
| 13:46.13 | themill | cardpuncher: not a chance. You could ask if someone wants to make a backport of it once wheezy releases |
| 13:46.18 | oliver_ | floogy: I did, it's still drwxrwsr-x |
| 13:46.47 | *** join/#debian a111 (~a111a111@host-2-98-104-178.as13285.net) |
| 13:47.14 | *** join/#debian invariant (~invariant@unaffiliated/invariant) |
| 13:47.22 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@2001:4dd0:ff00:8421:6e62:6dff:fe4a:e47d) |
| 13:48.17 | cardpuncher | themill: OK, thanks for informing but may I ask why there's no chance for an update? This package shouldn't affect anything else and an update would benefit both Debian and the Gnutella network. |
| 13:48.41 | *** join/#debian JimLesta (~user@unaffiliated/jimlesta) |
| 13:49.09 | *** part/#debian pbase (~pbase@unaffiliated/pbase) |
| 13:49.14 | themill | cardpuncher: and what happens if there is a really ugly bug in that package that just hasn't been found yet? The line has to be drawn somewhere, and it was drawn 6 months ago. |
| 13:49.16 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1290] by debhelper |
| 13:49.33 | *** join/#debian dcherniv (~dcherniv@213.255.219.102) |
| 13:50.01 | *** join/#debian MIOW (~miow@109.172.15.19) |
| 13:50.18 | *** join/#debian pbn (pbn@wopr.geekshells.org) |
| 13:51.00 | *** join/#debian Na_Klar (~chatzilla@dslb-188-107-228-001.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 13:51.59 | Na_Klar | so, what's a good ftp server for debian? There are so many, I do not get a overview. I need something plain and simple. No mass-connections are needed. |
| 13:53.10 | cardpuncher | themill: I contributed a bit to gtkg and I feel comfortable to defy Murphy on this one (in fact there are less bugs in the latest version). But the rules are the rules and I can understand if others aren't foolish enough to defy Murphy. Thanks for explaining. |
| 13:53.50 | *** join/#debian davi (davi@gnu/davi) |
| 13:53.52 | *** join/#debian Yoshi1 (~yoshi@dsl-173-206-30-35.tor.primus.ca) |
| 13:54.28 | Cerise | Hi there, I'm experiencing problems with openssh-server on squeeze. According to /var/log/auth.log, sshd receives SIGTERM signals at (seemingly) random times, then tries to restart but fails to bind (could not assign requested address). Do you guys know what might send these SIGTERM signals and why sshd can't start up again? If I manually start it, it runs without any problems. Any ideas? |
| 13:54.37 | Cerise | I also have an excerpt from /var/log/auth.log at http://pastie.org/5678319 |
| 13:55.18 | *** join/#debian hell_razer (~HellRaise@201-96-179-94.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 13:55.18 | *** join/#debian grobda24 (~djbarney@client-86-23-93-234.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com) |
| 13:55.19 | *** join/#debian grobda24 (~djbarney@silentflame/member/grobda24) |
| 13:55.21 | *** join/#debian Therion87 (~Robert@dynamic-acs-24-239-82-21.zoominternet.net) |
| 13:55.26 | *** join/#debian GEEGEEGEEE (~a111a111@host-2-98-104-178.as13285.net) |
| 13:55.34 | jelly-home | Cerise: is this a VPS or a physical machine? |
| 13:55.42 | floogy | oliver_, please try g instead of o then. |
| 13:56.11 | Cerise | jelly-home, it's a VPS (using OpenVZ, afaik) |
| 13:56.12 | jelly-home | Cerise: do the kills occur in specific timeframe? |
| 13:56.46 | *** join/#debian winsen (~winsen@pas75-4-88-176-17-102.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 13:56.47 | jelly-home | (or specific time, ie. always straight on the minute) |
| 13:57.07 | *** join/#debian mang0 (~mang0@unaffiliated/mang0) |
| 13:57.28 | *** join/#debian edju (~edju@75-39-106-129.lightspeed.dtrtmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 13:57.54 | *** join/#debian pbn (pbn@wopr.geekshells.org) |
| 13:58.14 | Cerise | jelly-home, doesn't look like it. A quick grep gave me this: http://pastie.org/5678334 - the only thing I'd notice is that both kills happened at xx:56 |
| 13:58.17 | *** join/#debian yeats (~chris@unaffiliated/yeats) |
| 13:58.30 | *** join/#debian dabor (~dabor@190.49.48.117) |
| 13:58.39 | *** part/#debian cardpuncher (~chatzilla@ip-34.net-89-2-153.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 13:59.05 | mang0 | I just re-installed debian because of graphics problems; my 1080p monitor was stuck at 640x480. After re-installed (and I guess by default using the nouveau driver) the 1080p monitor was now stuck at 1024x768 or something. I couldn't change it with xrandr, nor anything else. When I installed the nvidia driver following the wiki, it went BACK to the same problem as before; 1024x768. Through all of this, my |
| 13:59.06 | mang0 | secondary monitor, 1280x1024, has been fine. What's going on? |
| 13:59.16 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1297] by debhelper |
| 13:59.41 | *** join/#debian yeats (~chris@unaffiliated/yeats) |
| 13:59.42 | jelly-home | Cerise: I've seen badly written malware do that; check for suspicious processes running as root, as well as unusual cron jobs set up. |
| 14:00.02 | *** part/#debian MrJones (~yarca@unaffiliated/mrjones) |
| 14:00.05 | jelly-home | Cerise: care to pastebin the output of "lsof -n"? |
| 14:00.29 | *** join/#debian skilz_ (~skilz@CPE-124-183-97-202.lns14.ken.bigpond.net.au) |
| 14:00.34 | Guest72192 | jelly-home I've never seen any *nix malware do that |
| 14:00.56 | *** join/#debian quinput (~quinput@pdpc/supporter/active/quinput) |
| 14:00.59 | jelly-home | *shrug* |
| 14:01.09 | Guest72192 | Just out of interest as a security researcher |
| 14:01.13 | Guest72192 | can you name any? |
| 14:01.48 | jelly-home | no, I can dig up logs if you're really interested |
| 14:01.52 | themill | Guest72192: any chance you can provide user support rather than just telling people what to do? |
| 14:02.12 | Cerise | jelly-home, that's quite a lot. Anything special you're interested in? |
| 14:02.15 | Guest72192 | jelly-home I'd appreciate that |
| 14:02.20 | jelly-home | Cerise: the lot. |
| 14:02.45 | Guest72192 | themill 3 lines of unrelated chats makes you sperg out? Holy fuck. |
| 14:03.26 | jelly-home | Guest72192: to be honest, your previous behaviour in the channel leaves me less than willing to spend half an hour digging as well |
| 14:03.31 | *** join/#debian marvinstuart (~marvinstu@cpe-184-57-132-151.cinci.res.rr.com) |
| 14:03.41 | *** join/#debian pbn (pbn@wopr.geekshells.org) |
| 14:03.45 | themill | Guest72192: no, your only contributions to the channel so far today have been entirely unhelpful and I'm hoping that will improve |
| 14:04.09 | mang0 | Any answers to my above question? Working in 640x480 is kind of difficult ^.^ |
| 14:04.15 | *** join/#debian e1z0 (~null@netlinux/founder/e1z0) |
| 14:05.39 | jelly-home | Cerise: you can inspect it yourself and see if there's any unusual services running, or files being open |
| 14:06.01 | *** join/#debian buibex (~buibex@95.76.228.159) |
| 14:06.07 | *** join/#debian valgrind (~valgrind@195.Red-88-15-125.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:06.41 | jelly-home | mang0: which debian release and which nvidia-glx version? |
| 14:07.41 | *** join/#debian pikudoz (~pikudoz@190.43.142.92) |
| 14:08.39 | mang0 | jelly-home: Debian Wheezy, installed from the CD 1 ISO. I *think* it was nvidia-glx 305.something |
| 14:08.47 | mang0 | If that doesn't make sense, then I have no idea. |
| 14:09.17 | *** join/#debian pbn (~pbn@wopr.geekshells.org) |
| 14:09.35 | *** join/#debian icedwater (~iced@49.128.60.68) |
| 14:09.35 | jelly-home | mang0: dpkg -l nvidia-glx|tail -n 1 ? |
| 14:09.52 | mang0 | jelly-home: My GPU is an nvidia gtx 560, by the way. |
| 14:09.58 | mang0 | Uh, hold on. |
| 14:10.03 | *** join/#debian ni__ (~ni@c-66-30-141-98.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) |
| 14:10.47 | Cerise | jelly-home, http://sprunge.us/EgQO - (I tried to filter private stuff, though) |
| 14:11.21 | mang0 | jelly-home: I can't actually run any commands at the moment, as Debian decided after being at 480p, that when I rebooted it didn't want to show me anything - including TTY. I'm just re-installing, be done in 5 minutes. Then what I'd like to do is start fresh, without nvidia-glx, and see what's going on with the default driver; why it's stuck at 768p. |
| 14:12.18 | *** join/#debian ChesterX (~guesswho@124.78.84.62) |
| 14:12.19 | *** join/#debian ChesterX (~guesswho@unaffiliated/chesterx) |
| 14:13.04 | jelly-home | Guest72192: the 5 minute grep found nothing, sorry |
| 14:13.11 | Guest72192 | k, np |
| 14:13.49 | *** join/#debian zukalk (~zukalk@bl5-186-8.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 14:15.57 | *** join/#debian dabor (~dabor@190.49.48.117) |
| 14:16.28 | *** join/#debian wissem (~wissem@unaffiliated/wissem) |
| 14:16.41 | *** join/#debian streuner_ (~streuner@mnhm-4d01b076.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 14:17.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | hramrach, trying one... I see what you mean with "went back to paper"... if you use lots of small notes, at least you can shove them around like you want really quickly when you don't know so much yet what connects to what else... but...still trying1 |
| 14:17.31 | jelly-home | Cerise: dunno, nothing obvious in there |
| 14:18.15 | jelly-home | Cerise: /dev/zero having been deleted is a bit weird, but maybe that's normal for openvz |
| 14:18.17 | *** join/#debian PhoenixSTF (~rudi@78.29.134.164) |
| 14:18.38 | *** join/#debian Guest1769 (~slacks@ip-141-31-181-54.nat.selfnet.de) |
| 14:19.17 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1303] by debhelper |
| 14:19.42 | *** join/#debian Gaxnys (~Gaxnys@c83-254-207-159.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 14:20.11 | *** join/#debian Mannequin (~julian@186.23.142.29) |
| 14:20.12 | mang0 | jelly-home: installation is over halfway now. |
| 14:22.04 | mang0 | jelly-home: rebooting into the system now.. |
| 14:22.24 | Cerise | Hm jelly-home, according to ls, /dev/zero (still) exists. What might delete/recreate these? A quick google search found nothing regarding OpenVZ deleting it |
| 14:23.37 | *** join/#debian pbn (pbn@wopr.geekshells.org) |
| 14:23.59 | jelly-home | nothing, it should always be in its place |
| 14:24.13 | mang0 | Okay! So, jelly-home, I'm now running on the default Debian driver (nouveau, I guess?) and my 1024p monitor is fine. The 1080p primary is stuck at 1024x768, and I can only change it to 800x600 |
| 14:24.24 | *** join/#debian TheJH (~TheJH@wikipedia/TheJH) |
| 14:24.53 | *** join/#debian Worf (~worf@chello080109200187.3.sc-graz.chello.at) |
| 14:25.00 | *** join/#debian project2501b (~kot@109.171.130.235) |
| 14:25.13 | jelly-home | mang0: that implies the driver did not read the available resolutions information when X was started |
| 14:25.29 | *** join/#debian trifolio6 (~h@62.43.62.203.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 14:25.47 | jelly-home | mang0: how is it connected, dvi-d? vga? displayport? |
| 14:27.13 | *** join/#debian Apeiron` (~Apeiron@209.105.170.99) |
| 14:27.17 | mang0 | jelly-home: It's a VGA port only monitor, but it's connected with a DVI > VGA adaptor, because my GPU only takes DVI |
| 14:27.24 | mang0 | DVI and HDMI anyway |
| 14:28.12 | *** join/#debian marvinstuart (~marvinstu@cpe-184-57-132-151.cinci.res.rr.com) |
| 14:28.13 | jelly-home | I have no idea if it's possible for EDID information to get lost somehow |
| 14:28.26 | mang0 | :/ |
| 14:29.23 | *** join/#debian kyrix_ (~ashley@85-126-76-82.work.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 14:29.49 | jelly-home | mang0: can you pastebin your dmesg or /var/log/kern.log, and /var/log/Xorg.0.log? |
| 14:29.49 | max999 | mang0, yes, adapters can cause problems with the EDID infos |
| 14:30.11 | *** join/#debian kyrix_ (~ashley@85-126-76-82.work.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 14:30.23 | max999 | there is a way to check the received EDID infos on CLI .. i fetched it for someone once .. forgot it though :) |
| 14:30.32 | mang0 | jelly-home: Sure. |
| 14:30.43 | mang0 | max999: Ah... |
| 14:30.54 | *** join/#debian k42b3 (~k42b3@p579975EF.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:31.17 | *** join/#debian PhoenixSTF (~rudi@78.29.134.164) |
| 14:31.24 | max999 | mang0, i think its read-edid |
| 14:32.15 | max999 | mang0, sudo apt-get install read-edid, execute 'sudo get-edid' then |
| 14:32.23 | *** join/#debian Caso (~ridout@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 14:32.54 | max999 | mang0, pipe it to parse-edid to make it human readable =) |
| 14:33.06 | max999 | sudo get-edid | parse-edid |
| 14:35.28 | *** join/#debian mang0|deb (56177cfd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.23.124.253) |
| 14:35.54 | mang0|deb | Sorry jelly-home, max999, just on debian now, instead of my laptop. Did I miss anything? |
| 14:36.08 | max999 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:36.17 | max999 | sudo get-edid | parse-edid |
| 14:36.44 | max999 | this will show you the edid data you receive. |
| 14:36.55 | max999 | you can edit it and put it in some configuration file too |
| 14:37.11 | mang0|deb | http://paste.debian.net/224253/ jelly-home, you wanted me Xorg.0.log? |
| 14:37.16 | mang0|deb | max999: I'll try, thanks. |
| 14:37.49 | jelly-home | mang0|deb: and dmesg. |
| 14:38.08 | mang0|deb | http://paste.debian.net/224254/ jelly-home |
| 14:39.21 | *** join/#debian skorv (~skorv@217.129.165.171) |
| 14:39.32 | jelly-home | mang0|deb: apparently, whatever's connected to DVI-I-2 only gave the driver 1024x768 as the maximum resolution |
| 14:39.49 | jelly-home | so that's it |
| 14:39.52 | mang0|deb | Right |
| 14:40.10 | *** join/#debian MrGeneral (~MrGeneral@2001:b18:4045::1) |
| 14:40.15 | mang0|deb | Just installing read-edid now. |
| 14:41.51 | *** join/#debian Shadow` (~BOOYEA@5ED7BD2B.cm-7-8c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 14:42.09 | mang0|deb | max999: Okay, so can I use the edididididid stuff to help fix the problem? ( jelly-home ) |
| 14:42.28 | jelly-home | unlikely |
| 14:42.29 | *** join/#debian Mexicainvexed (~dzup@freebsd/user/dzup) |
| 14:43.01 | jelly-home | how is your other monitor connected? |
| 14:43.06 | max999 | mang0, well you can check if the edid data received is correct |
| 14:43.23 | mang0|deb | jelly-home: Pure DVI |
| 14:43.38 | max999 | you see some lines like HTimings and VTimings showing the possible resolutions according to your edid data |
| 14:43.50 | mang0|deb | Right |
| 14:44.13 | mang0|deb | Ah, indeed it is wrong |
| 14:44.31 | jelly-home | mang0|deb: so you could switch the outputs around, just for fun |
| 14:44.34 | mang0|deb | Okay, so somehow I need to get it to read the correct edid data... |
| 14:44.37 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@78.181.118.75) |
| 14:44.38 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 14:44.44 | mang0|deb | jelly-home: Aha, I tried that, and it messed up my dual monitor config for windows |
| 14:44.48 | *** join/#debian picca (~picca@219.129.88.79.rev.sfr.net) |
| 14:44.59 | mang0|deb | And didn't change anythnig in Debian either |
| 14:45.08 | mang0|deb | so I thought it probably wasn't worth it. |
| 14:45.40 | jelly-home | does the VGA 1080p device work well in windows? |
| 14:45.44 | max999 | i think its possible to use the edid data from get-edid in the x.org config file .. somehow =) |
| 14:45.50 | *** join/#debian Na_Klar (~chatzilla@dslb-188-107-228-001.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 14:46.58 | mang0|deb | jelly-home: Yes |
| 14:47.28 | jelly-home | interesting |
| 14:47.50 | *** join/#debian arietis (~arietis@188.242.181.162) |
| 14:47.53 | jelly-home | you could try a newer kernel and nouveau I guess |
| 14:48.06 | nmschulte | jelly-home: Once I've built this i386 tree in the debootstrapped chroot (with a prefix in /opt/xorg-32), can just leave the chroot and copy it over? |
| 14:48.10 | *** join/#debian cardamon (~mute@c-24-30-40-161.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 14:48.22 | mang0|deb | http://paste.debian.net/224258/ max999, jelly-home: This is my get-edid | parse-edid output if you're interested |
| 14:48.34 | jelly-home | nmschulte: I have no idea what you're doing at this point, sorry? |
| 14:48.47 | mang0|deb | jelly-home: How can I check what driver I'm currently using? |
| 14:49.01 | nmschulte | jelly-home: oh, hehe. I'm trying to build mesa, but that's irrelevant, for i386 on the amd64 port of Debian Sid. |
| 14:49.03 | jelly-home | mang0|deb: xorg log tells you that |
| 14:49.22 | max999 | mang0|deb, whats your desired resolution? |
| 14:49.26 | jelly-home | nmschulte: what's wrong with mesa in sid? |
| 14:49.34 | nmschulte | I can't use a multiarch cross-compile, because apparently the support isn't quite there yet. |
| 14:49.36 | *** join/#debian serjs (~serjs@79.164.65.242) |
| 14:49.52 | nmschulte | jelly-home: Nothing necessarily, but what's wrong with mesa in mesa mainline? |
| 14:50.05 | jelly-home | nmschulte: it's not packaged and ready for use. |
| 14:50.15 | nmschulte | That's my job. |
| 14:50.31 | jelly-home | nmschulte: no, that's typically the distro's job |
| 14:50.41 | nmschulte | mesa in sid doesn't support OpenGL 3.0 |
| 14:50.56 | *** join/#debian dvs (~Colin@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 14:50.56 | nmschulte | Whereas mesa in mesa mainline does |
| 14:50.58 | *** join/#debian pikudoz (~pikudoz@190.235.86.61) |
| 14:51.02 | mang0|deb | max999: 1920x1080 on one monitor, 1280x1024 on the other |
| 14:51.22 | mang0|deb | So I guess 3200x1080, max999 |
| 14:51.34 | *** join/#debian |oop (~pool@c-69-253-114-150.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 14:51.35 | nmschulte | Along with many other improvements. But that's iirelevent; if there's no support for users upgrading select components with the multiarch system, then there's no chance for me getting help here. |
| 14:51.40 | *** join/#debian a111 (~a111a111@host-2-98-104-178.as13285.net) |
| 14:51.59 | nmschulte | Installing software to /opt without packaging it is a common practice. |
| 14:52.24 | jelly-home | nmschulte: 8.0 from testing and sid ought to support 3.0 (but not 3.1) |
| 14:52.28 | mang0|deb | jelly-home: Ah, I'm using nouveau then. |
| 14:52.31 | max999 | mang0|deb, you could try creating a custom xorg.conf file .. there seem to be options like "UseEDID" "False" but im not sure how to do this and what to put in it =) |
| 14:53.06 | nmschulte | jelly-home: It does not, as far as I'm aware. I know that 3.0 for radeon/r600 requires at least Linux 3.6, which I can only get from experimental (3.7.1). |
| 14:53.09 | cardamon | Virginal installation. Not Desktop tasksel. added my user to group, but sudo doesn't doesn't seem to be in his path yet. I did log out and back in again on the shell. |
| 14:53.16 | cardamon | What am I missing? |
| 14:53.17 | nmschulte | I've already packaged up a new kernel for my use though. |
| 14:53.40 | themill | cardamon: did you install sudo? |
| 14:53.42 | *** join/#debian root_ (~root@kalif.euskill.com) |
| 14:53.44 | ompaul | cardamon: do to what? |
| 14:53.46 | jelly-home | nmschulte: that's just the kernel part, you're allowed to install your own kernel or the one from experimental |
| 14:54.17 | jelly-home | nmschulte: in fact I'm running 3.7.1 from experimental on my workstations |
| 14:54.26 | nmschulte | jelly-home: Also, I don't believe that mesa is compiled with llvm for r600, and I also really don't believe that ARB_texture_float is enabled either. |
| 14:54.27 | ompaul | ah woops |
| 14:54.37 | mang0|deb | max999: I currently don't even *have* a xorg.conf |
| 14:54.50 | jelly-home | nmschulte: those are probably more valid points |
| 14:54.51 | *** join/#debian Greedi (~Greedi@unaffiliated/greedi) |
| 14:55.14 | nmschulte | Sure, but I don't really see why that matters. |
| 14:55.40 | jelly-home | using packages when possible instead of building ALWAYS matters :-D |
| 14:55.49 | max999 | mang0|deb, dont know more about this, you would have to spend some time on google if you want to do it that way =) |
| 14:55.53 | nmschulte | I mean, I can understand not wishing, or not knowing, how to support my case, but if that's so then that's all that needs to be said. |
| 14:56.16 | nmschulte | Yeah, agreed, sticking to packaged software helps with the support effort. |
| 14:56.18 | mang0|deb | max999: Well to be honest, I don't know if there is any other way, haha |
| 14:56.55 | *** join/#debian JimLesta (~user@unaffiliated/jimlesta) |
| 14:57.07 | max999 | mang0|deb, good luck =) |
| 14:57.19 | mang0|deb | max999: Thanks, I'll need it :S |
| 14:57.34 | cardamon | Using packages makes for a happy time. |
| 14:57.38 | jelly-home | nmschulte: oh, apologies, I just wanted to see if what you were doing could be cut short |
| 14:57.51 | nmschulte | jelly-home: no worries, I'm not upset. |
| 14:57.54 | *** join/#debian Yoshi1 (~yoshi@dsl-173-206-30-35.tor.primus.ca) |
| 14:58.02 | nmschulte | I'm just tired and wishing I knew how to do this on my own. |
| 14:58.05 | cardamon | Well...damn. |
| 14:58.16 | nmschulte | I could always package the mesa builds. |
| 14:58.18 | cardamon | didn't realize sudo wasn't brought in by default. |
| 14:58.29 | *** join/#debian GG111 (~guy@c-24-60-58-81.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 14:58.33 | cardamon | Although I think it is if you shadow root. |
| 14:58.37 | nmschulte | But for now I've just make install'ed from within the chroot, and copied them to the same location outside of. |
| 14:58.47 | cardamon | Which is weird. You'd think it would be the default behavior. |
| 14:58.55 | gour_ | i use wheezy several months and not a single problem...now i'm considering to upgrade to sid...what's recommended way to do it? |
| 14:59.07 | nmschulte | dpkg knows! |
| 14:59.08 | dpkg | nmschulte: wish i knew |
| 14:59.14 | nmschulte | oh |
| 14:59.16 | cardamon | gour: Moving to sid is not an upgrade. |
| 14:59.22 | jelly-home | dpkg will only say "if you have to ask, you shouldn't" |
| 14:59.23 | dpkg | jelly-home: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 14:59.30 | cardamon | Cure yourself of that delusion right now. |
| 14:59.32 | nmschulte | haha |
| 14:59.44 | gour | cardamon: s/upgrade/'upgrade'/ |
| 15:00.00 | cardamon | The packages may be more current. That is all. |
| 15:00.07 | *** join/#debian somazero (~somazero@wsip-184-189-105-50.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 15:00.08 | nmschulte | he has a point... it _is_ (or was, dist-upgrade) full-upgrade... |
| 15:00.08 | jelly-home | gour: good to see you want to file bug reports and send patches! |
| 15:00.15 | *** join/#debian TheGrey (~TheGrey__@b0fc2b4b.bb.sky.com) |
| 15:00.20 | jelly-home | pats gour on the back |
| 15:00.29 | *** join/#debian r0tha_ (~r0tha@173.247.200.122) |
| 15:00.30 | gour | jelly-home: he he..wel, would like to have newer xfce, emacs... |
| 15:00.51 | nmschulte | Sid isn't really the best option there. |
| 15:00.52 | *** join/#debian Greedi (~Greedi@unaffiliated/greedi) |
| 15:00.53 | cardamon | Ah, another feeble emacs user. |
| 15:00.56 | nmschulte | Anything in backports? |
| 15:01.12 | gour | haven't seen emacs24 |
| 15:01.23 | *** join/#debian Yoshi1 (~yoshi@dsl-173-206-30-35.tor.primus.ca) |
| 15:01.29 | *** join/#debian meti (~meti@gateway/tor-sasl/meti) |
| 15:01.33 | *** join/#debian tjiggi_fo (~grumpy@c-50-138-47-168.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 15:01.36 | jelly-home | gour: sid's used for filing bug reports and sending patches, not for getting new software and expecting it works |
| 15:01.54 | nmschulte | hmm. Well, jsut be aware of the security risks amongst the other risks and issues of switching to sid |
| 15:01.59 | Yoshi1 | i've got an issue where i cant run an apt-get install -f cause it says i'm out of space though this install is like 4 hours old so i dont know how that happened |
| 15:02.08 | cardamon | ,.pciid [1814:3062] |
| 15:02.13 | *** join/#debian TomyLobo (~foo@91-64-160-173-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 15:02.30 | nmschulte | No one can stop you from going to sid, but you're really kind of expected to hold your own in that playground. |
| 15:02.35 | cardamon | Yoshi1: What's df -h look like? |
| 15:02.48 | nkuttler | Yoshi1: start with an apt-get autoclean, then du/df |
| 15:03.13 | nkuttler | Yoshi1: actually, clean |
| 15:03.19 | gour | jelly-home: i read http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-choosing.en.html & stuff like http://raphaelhertzog.com/2010/12/20/5-reasons-why-debian-unstable-does-not-deserve-its-name/ so it does not look sid is so broken |
| 15:03.27 | cardamon | If you see "99% /" you've got your reaso. |
| 15:03.30 | *** join/#debian Greedi (~Greedi@unaffiliated/greedi) |
| 15:03.46 | *** join/#debian debclair (~debclair@186.178.171.133) |
| 15:03.50 | nmschulte | jelly-home: great success, thanks. http://paste.debian.net/224267/ |
| 15:04.07 | nkuttler | gour: the author obviously doesn't understand Debian |
| 15:04.10 | cardamon | gour: Sid is not broken. Sid will break you. |
| 15:04.17 | gour | heh |
| 15:04.41 | jelly-home | !win nmschulte |
| 15:04.43 | dpkg | Congratulations, nmschulte! You have won a one way ticket to Gaza! |
| 15:04.45 | jelly-home | oops |
| 15:04.46 | *** join/#debian a111 (~a111a111@host-2-98-104-178.as13285.net) |
| 15:05.07 | nmschulte | dpkg wheezy->sid |
| 15:05.07 | dpkg | Repeat after me: Sid is NOT AN UPGRADE! Sid is meant for developers and testers, so stay away from it if you're neither. Use <stable> or <testing> instead. See also <sid upgrade test>. |
| 15:05.08 | mang0|deb | http://grenage.com/xorg.html max999 jelly-home found this page, got some useful info about edid mishaps |
| 15:05.12 | Yoshi1 | cardamon: the /devs look pretty full but like i said i dont know whats using all the space though for some reason they only have like 300 or 400 megs room in them |
| 15:05.15 | nkuttler | gour: well, at least he's misrepresenting one aspect |
| 15:05.17 | *** join/#debian mikkidog (~william@bas16-ottawa23-845452948.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 15:05.28 | *** join/#debian a111 (~a111a111@host-2-98-104-178.as13285.net) |
| 15:05.32 | nkuttler | odd that he seems to be the author of a book on Debian :\ |
| 15:05.40 | gour | nkuttler: isn't the author the one who wrote debian handbook? |
| 15:05.50 | jelly-home | gour: it's not so broken, but don't expect other people to fix the things that DO break |
| 15:06.07 | cardamon | Look, it may not be the debian way, but let's break it down like this: Servers go to stable. Dedicated and Smart Users go to testing, and learn to do the occasional bugreport and google. Unstable is for developers and people who want to HELP further testing and stable, not just get the newest toys. |
| 15:06.51 | cardamon | If you want things to break all the time and us to feel peachy keen about it, go to a rolling release. There are plenty to choose from. |
| 15:07.01 | themill | nkuttler: The author of that blog post is actually a very experienced debian developer who certainly does understand debian... but I suspect he's forgotten what normal users look like. |
| 15:07.02 | *** join/#debian chomwitt (~chomwitt@ppp-94-69-229-71.home.otenet.gr) |
| 15:07.02 | *** join/#debian JurassicJon (~textual@d24-150-66-165.home.cgocable.net) |
| 15:07.15 | gour | i moved to debian from arch & gentoo |
| 15:07.22 | *** join/#debian frostschutz (~frostschu@p4FFF7523.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:07.24 | cardamon | Yoshi1: That sounds like your problem. Pastinbin it. |
| 15:07.36 | cardamon | gour: I can from Gentoo too. I know the battle. |
| 15:07.41 | nkuttler | themill: yeah, it looks like his understanding of stable/unstable isn't in sync with debian |
| 15:08.27 | cardamon | themill: Normal users probably look like my roommate. I should never have put debian on his machine. Every five minutes something new. |
| 15:08.41 | jelly-home | the definition of what a "normal user" is has certainly changed over the years |
| 15:08.42 | cardamon | "But it says it's linux compatible. Why doesn't it just work?" |
| 15:08.48 | nkuttler | it seems nowadays new users value the latest shiny stuff over anything else |
| 15:09.02 | cardamon | dpkg: snss |
| 15:09.03 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, cardamon |
| 15:09.12 | cardamon | dpkg: snss? |
| 15:09.13 | dpkg | cardamon: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 15:09.41 | gour | has problem with old gnus |
| 15:09.41 | koshie | Is the pining good on testing ? |
| 15:09.42 | *** join/#debian jkfod (~Greg_od@79.140.6.213) |
| 15:09.55 | cardamon | dpkg SNS |
| 15:09.56 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
| 15:09.56 | nkuttler | koshie: what do you mean? |
| 15:10.09 | *** join/#debian LaptopBrain (~brain@cpc2-mfld3-0-0-cust139.13-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 15:10.17 | Yoshi1 | cardamon: http://pastebin.com/EqqrmYcR |
| 15:10.19 | *** join/#debian paulbanks (~Paul@195.74.255.72.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 15:10.26 | mang0 | Lol about SNS |
| 15:10.32 | koshie | pining is reserved to a stable Debian and take somes software up to date ? I can do that on testing without problem too, right nkuttler ? |
| 15:10.43 | koshie | sorry for my english |
| 15:10.50 | Yoshi1 | why the heck would the debian install auto partitioner set this up like this |
| 15:10.57 | jelly-home | koshie: pinning is a hacky feature, but has a little bit less probability of breaking testing than it has of breaking stable |
| 15:11.03 | cardamon | Yoshi1: There's your problem. |
| 15:11.12 | *** join/#debian Grey2 (~Grey@b0fc2b4b.bb.sky.com) |
| 15:11.15 | cardamon | Yoshi1: Go back and do them by hand. |
| 15:11.23 | Yoshi1 | cardamon: so i have to reinstall this? |
| 15:11.26 | Yoshi1 | grrr annoyance |
| 15:11.31 | nkuttler | koshie: if you try to use pinning to get testing packages into stable, that will break |
| 15:11.38 | *** join/#debian ceduardo (~ceduard0@186.146.114.74) |
| 15:11.42 | koshie | jelly-home: ok. A lot of peoples recommend it and I'm think about using it. |
| 15:11.50 | koshie | nkuttler: unstable on testing for my case |
| 15:12.08 | debclair | Hi, how can I make my system use the mesa drivers? I have an ATI Radeon 4200 graphics card, use the free drivers, glxinfo shows this https://gist.github.com/4524522 and its wrong according to this post http://askubuntu.com/a/32344 |
| 15:12.14 | Yoshi1 | cardamon: wouldnt it be possible to shift some space around using the installables gparted? |
| 15:12.19 | jelly-home | koshie: it might work if you're VERY careful |
| 15:12.31 | Yoshi1 | cardamon: as a means of saving time and effort of reinstalling? |
| 15:12.51 | koshie | jelly-home: Some kind of package isn't recommended? |
| 15:12.51 | cardamon | Yoshi1: Afraid so, yes. I'm not debian-installer's biggest fan easier. But it looks to me like it split up your mount points but neglected a that tend to grow very large, like /lib |
| 15:13.04 | koshie | for example using unstable kernel is probably not a very good idea. |
| 15:13.29 | *** join/#debian Anarchy7 (~Anarchy@85.183.206.138) |
| 15:13.32 | cardamon | Yoshi1: Depends on the filesystem you used. |
| 15:13.39 | jelly-home | koshie: bad example, kernel's one thing you can safely mess with without worrying it will affect the restof the system |
| 15:13.45 | cardamon | XFS for instance, you cannot shrink. |
| 15:13.50 | koshie | jelly-home: not wrong. |
| 15:13.54 | cardamon | But you most likely used ext3 or ext4. |
| 15:13.59 | Yoshi1 | cardamon: didnt look to closely but i think i recall mostly ext3 except on root which i think got only ext |
| 15:14.04 | cardamon | Which can be "live resized" |
| 15:14.31 | Yoshi1 | cardamon: live resized? |
| 15:14.32 | koshie | jelly-home: there is not a "more up to date" repository for debian? Backport ? |
| 15:14.34 | cardamon | Yoshi1: I don't know what the autopartitioner is doing. I never use it, and for good reason. |
| 15:14.39 | *** join/#debian Quimbey (~Quimbey@local.li) |
| 15:14.51 | Yoshi1 | cardamon: yeah if i knew it woulda screwed it up this much i wouldnt have either |
| 15:15.07 | Yoshi1 | alright i'll tr the gparted method if it breaks things well nothing critical on this thing yet anyway |
| 15:15.14 | Yoshi1 | laters and thanks for the help |
| 15:15.20 | *** join/#debian soulz (~soulz@c-1ff770d5.01-275-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 15:15.26 | cardamon | Yoshi1: Well, no. I'd just redo it... |
| 15:15.30 | jelly-home | koshie: but that's not what I meant. What I meant is pinning not a well thought out feature. Its manual sucks, its configuration is fragile, and it changes the behaviour of apt/aptitude in weird ways. |
| 15:15.44 | cardamon | Live resizes I have the worst luck with. |
| 15:15.55 | cardamon | And that's an ugly setup anyway. |
| 15:15.56 | koshie | jelly-home: Ok, so except if I REALLY need it |
| 15:15.59 | Yoshi1 | cardamon: i tend to have decent luck with them |
| 15:16.00 | koshie | I don't have too |
| 15:16.26 | jelly-home | nod |
| 15:16.45 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@92.40.253.79.threembb.co.uk) |
| 15:17.22 | *** join/#debian streuner__ (~streuner@mnhm-4d01a0a8.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 15:17.42 | gour | how far is wheezy release? |
| 15:18.06 | themill | couple of months |
| 15:18.08 | themill | !wwwr |
| 15:18.08 | dpkg | I don't know when Wheezy will release, but I can say that it will be sooner if you help. Ask me about <wheezy pool> for contributed release date guesses. Wheezy was frozen on June 30th, 2012 -- ask me about <freeze>. If you'd like wheezy to release sooner rather than later, perhaps you could help squash some <rc bugs>! |
| 15:18.17 | debclair | Hi, how can I make my system use the mesa drivers? I have an ATI Radeon 4200 graphics card, use the free drivers, glxinfo shows this https://gist.github.com/4524522 and its wrong according to this post http://askubuntu.com/a/32344 |
| 15:18.20 | nmschulte | debclair: that doesn't look wrong to me. |
| 15:18.46 | nmschulte | It says you're using MEsa. |
| 15:19.07 | *** join/#debian FrantiK (~FrantiK@unaffiliated/frantik) |
| 15:19.10 | FrantiK | heya guys |
| 15:19.17 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1311] by debhelper |
| 15:19.29 | FrantiK | i had a question, i was installing java (...) and i was looking at http://wiki.debian.org/Java |
| 15:19.37 | cardamon | FrantiK: and...? |
| 15:19.46 | FrantiK | however, it is not clear if java 64 bit is available |
| 15:19.52 | FrantiK | using these packages .. |
| 15:19.56 | nmschulte | It is available. |
| 15:20.00 | debclair | nmschulte, how can I check it further? |
| 15:20.11 | nmschulte | debclair: What further do you want to check? |
| 15:20.14 | FrantiK | okay then, will be back if needed :) |
| 15:20.17 | FrantiK | have a nice day |
| 15:20.21 | cardamon | FrantiK: If you have a 64 bit installation, it... |
| 15:20.26 | nmschulte | lol |
| 15:20.35 | cardamon | I'm gonna nail your feet to the floor next time! |
| 15:20.40 | cardamon | With nails! |
| 15:20.49 | nmschulte | mine? |
| 15:20.51 | cardamon | ...and I. |
| 15:20.55 | *** join/#debian Dennis8162 (~IceChat77@unaffiliated/dennis8162) |
| 15:20.59 | Dennis8162 | hi |
| 15:21.13 | nmschulte | what's up icechat77!! |
| 15:21.14 | Dennis8162 | i ma trying to instll this http://www.rigsofrods.com/wiki/pages/Compiling_Server#Linux |
| 15:21.22 | Dennis8162 | under a user called rorserver |
| 15:21.30 | cardamon | I'm back in a bit. |
| 15:21.47 | Dennis8162 | i did sudo apt-get install subversion build-essential cmake |
| 15:22.11 | Dennis8162 | rorserver is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. |
| 15:22.11 | Dennis8162 | rorserver@xnerogaming:~$ |
| 15:22.26 | Dennis8162 | i get that error |
| 15:22.27 | *** join/#debian GNU\colossus (colo@84.200.12.121) |
| 15:22.33 | nmschulte | Dennis8162: Do you have access to the root account? |
| 15:22.36 | Dennis8162 | yes |
| 15:22.40 | Dennis8162 | i own the vps |
| 15:22.55 | nmschulte | Or perhaps another account that that is in allowed vi sudoers |
| 15:23.04 | Dennis8162 | one thing |
| 15:23.04 | nmschulte | Dennis8162: become root, and then issue that apt-get command |
| 15:23.18 | Dennis8162 | i was emailed this: |
| 15:23.18 | nmschulte | or, becoem your regular user (the one that the install setup), and use sudo there. |
| 15:23.18 | Dennis8162 | the only steps that require root permission are installing the dependencies, create the user and install it (make install). |
| 15:23.19 | Dennis8162 | The rest of the process (svn checkout, cmake, make) normally doesn't require root permission. |
| 15:23.19 | Dennis8162 | I recommend following the Compiling Server wiki. The steps that require root permission will ask you for a password automatically. |
| 15:23.22 | GNU\colossus | hey, I upgraded from squeeze + backports to wheezy + experimental a few days ago, and would like to upgrade iceweasel to 18.0. when I try to install with -t experimental, I get: |
| 15:23.28 | GNU\colossus | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:23.39 | GNU\colossus | but according to apt-cache policy, that package is in experimental |
| 15:23.40 | nmschulte | Dennis8162: Yep. |
| 15:23.44 | GNU\colossus | what's going on? |
| 15:23.47 | *** join/#debian f8l (~f8l@178-37-160-115.adsl.inetia.pl) |
| 15:23.57 | Dennis8162 | apt-get command |
| 15:23.57 | Dennis8162 | [15:23] <Dennis8162> i was emailed this: |
| 15:23.57 | Dennis8162 | [15 |
| 15:24.06 | Dennis8162 | so apt-get command ?? |
| 15:24.08 | Dennis8162 | in root? |
| 15:24.11 | debclair | nmschulte, I am not getting any 3D acceleration, when I try playing World of Goo for example it gets painfully slow, and Wine is not recognizing the GL_VENDOR either and tries to use NVIDIA's |
| 15:24.15 | Dennis8162 | sorry i never done it before |
| 15:24.22 | nmschulte | no worries |
| 15:24.27 | *** join/#debian acrg (~aragon@decoder.geek.sh) |
| 15:24.30 | nmschulte | so, you can become the root user? |
| 15:24.41 | Dennis8162 | yep |
| 15:24.45 | Dennis8162 | logged in as root now |
| 15:24.52 | nmschulte | as root user, issue the apt-get command that they list: "apt-get install subversion build-essential cmake" |
| 15:25.22 | Dennis8162 | but i want it to install the gameserver as the "rorserver" user, or is this a server plugin sort of thing? |
| 15:25.25 | nmschulte | you don't need sudo, because sudo, short for super-user do, is a way of regular users gaining root priviledges. |
| 15:25.32 | Dennis8162 | k |
| 15:25.42 | *** join/#debian Therion87 (~Robert@dynamic-acs-24-239-82-21.zoominternet.net) |
| 15:25.53 | nmschulte | further, sudo requires a bit of setup. that user, ror....whatever, is not setup to use sudo, and that's why you get that notification. |
| 15:26.30 | acrg | anyone else having problems with a wheezy PXE network install? |
| 15:26.36 | nmschulte | You're user account though, the one the Debian setup for you, should be in sudo (I believe; others will confirm/deny). |
| 15:26.38 | *** join/#debian xomrk (~bolo@77.87.0.1) |
| 15:26.58 | Dennis8162 | i done apt-get install subversion build-essential cmake |
| 15:27.01 | Dennis8162 | its installing |
| 15:27.17 | Dennis8162 | i get: |
| 15:27.17 | Dennis8162 | 2 upgraded, 30 newly installed, 0 to remove and 53 not upgraded. |
| 15:27.17 | Dennis8162 | Need to get 32.7 MB of archives. |
| 15:27.17 | Dennis8162 | After this operation, 80.2 MB of additional disk space will be used. |
| 15:27.18 | *** kick/#debian [Dennis8162!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (flood) |
| 15:27.41 | *** join/#debian Dennis8162 (~IceChat77@unaffiliated/dennis8162) |
| 15:27.52 | Dennis8162 | kicked :S |
| 15:27.58 | Dennis8162 | 2 upgraded, 30 newly installed, 0 to remove and 53 not upgraded. |
| 15:27.58 | Dennis8162 | Need to get 32.7 MB of archives. |
| 15:27.58 | Dennis8162 | After this operation, 80.2 MB of additional disk space will be used. |
| 15:28.06 | Dennis8162 | that happens when installing |
| 15:28.16 | nmschulte | Right, that's to be expected. |
| 15:28.21 | Dennis8162 | just do y? |
| 15:28.29 | nmschulte | You're running a process, and that process is providing you feedback, waiting for your input. |
| 15:28.33 | tjiggi_fo | Dennis8162, don't cut and paste into the chanel or you'll get kicked again |
| 15:28.38 | Dennis8162 | sprry |
| 15:28.39 | nmschulte | If you say no, you won't get those packages installed. |
| 15:28.43 | Dennis8162 | oh ok |
| 15:28.56 | Dennis8162 | -bash: y: command not found |
| 15:28.57 | *** join/#debian TheJH (~TheJH@wikipedia/TheJH) |
| 15:28.58 | Dennis8162 | :( |
| 15:29.07 | *** join/#debian meti (~meti@gateway/tor-sasl/meti) |
| 15:29.11 | *** join/#debian gogogo_ (~frankie82@113.254.72.142) |
| 15:29.21 | nmschulte | Dennis8162: Try it again, or just press enter this time. |
| 15:29.32 | nmschulte | The capital letter for prompts like that means it's usually the default. |
| 15:29.38 | nmschulte | If you don't type anything, it will do the default. |
| 15:29.49 | Dennis8162 | let me retry the get thing |
| 15:30.04 | *** join/#debian lukas__ (~lukas@194.228.13.186) |
| 15:30.19 | *** join/#debian Wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 15:30.34 | *** join/#debian soypirate (~soypirate@75.94.81.12) |
| 15:30.36 | *** join/#debian gogogo__ (~frankie82@113.254.72.142) |
| 15:30.44 | Dennis8162 | looks like its downloading :) |
| 15:31.40 | Dennis8162 | hmm |
| 15:31.52 | *** join/#debian funtapaz (funtapaz@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fedf:d7e8) |
| 15:33.25 | *** join/#debian Grey3 (~Grey@b0fc2b4b.bb.sky.com) |
| 15:34.38 | Anarchy7 | Im in screen with a tool, now I want to go back to normal terminal, how? |
| 15:34.48 | *** join/#debian TheGrey (~TheGrey__@b0fc2b4b.bb.sky.com) |
| 15:34.55 | acrg | ctrl+a, d |
| 15:34.56 | nmschulte | Anarchy7: exit |
| 15:34.56 | nmschulte | ? |
| 15:34.57 | GNU\colossus | ^ad |
| 15:35.08 | nmschulte | oic, sorry. yeah, you want to detach |
| 15:35.19 | Anarchy7 | will try thanks |
| 15:35.35 | acrg | ctrl+a, ? |
| 15:35.38 | acrg | while you're at it |
| 15:35.51 | nmschulte | CTRL+a is the escape sequence |
| 15:35.59 | cardamon | Bah, I can never remember what I do to get wlan0 |
| 15:36.00 | nmschulte | to tell screen you want to do something special |
| 15:36.14 | nmschulte | and then d, tells screen you want to detach |
| 15:36.27 | nmschulte | which leaves the screen session running in the background |
| 15:36.41 | *** join/#debian marvinstuart (~marvinstu@cpe-184-57-132-151.cinci.res.rr.com) |
| 15:36.53 | nmschulte | alright, I'm out |
| 15:36.54 | *** join/#debian a111 (~a111a111@host-2-98-104-178.as13285.net) |
| 15:37.39 | acrg | so a wheezy PXE network install gives me a 404 when fetching network-preseed 1.56 - anyone know about this ? |
| 15:38.16 | acrg | (I've tried several mirrors) |
| 15:39.35 | *** join/#debian _polto_ (~polto@fsf/member/polto) |
| 15:39.40 | Anarchy7 | thanks it worked |
| 15:40.42 | *** join/#debian mquin (~mquin@freenode/staff/mquin) |
| 15:40.45 | *** join/#debian Delion (~Delion@178-164-249-23.pool.digikabel.hu) |
| 15:40.47 | *** join/#debian enkrypt (~jan@d51A487AD.access.telenet.be) |
| 15:41.32 | *** join/#debian willmore (~willmore@c-98-220-135-28.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 15:41.55 | *** join/#debian willmore (~willmore@c-98-220-135-28.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 15:42.08 | Dennis8162 | is it done??? |
| 15:42.09 | Dennis8162 | Setting up build-essential (11.5) ... |
| 15:42.09 | Dennis8162 | root@xnerogaming:~# |
| 15:42.52 | Dennis8162 | i dont know :P |
| 15:43.31 | *** join/#debian enkrypt (~jan@d51A487AD.access.telenet.be) |
| 15:43.40 | tjiggi_fo | Dennis8162, yes. it's done when you're returned to your prompt |
| 15:43.50 | Dennis8162 | ok |
| 15:44.00 | Dennis8162 | so now i can log in as "roroserver" |
| 15:44.00 | Dennis8162 | ? |
| 15:44.21 | tjiggi_fo | now you may |
| 15:44.25 | Dennis8162 | ok thankyou |
| 15:44.28 | debclair | hi, when running "glxinfo | grep OpenGL" I get "OpenGL vendor string: X.Org" this is conflicting with wine because it can't identify the card and tries to use nvidia's instead, my card is ATI |
| 15:44.29 | Dennis8162 | next step is, |
| 15:44.30 | Dennis8162 | svn co https://rorserver.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/rorserver/trunk rorserver-trunk |
| 15:44.35 | Dennis8162 | would that work? |
| 15:45.10 | wols_ | debclair: you need to explain more carefully what wine has to do with your video driver |
| 15:45.26 | Dennis8162 | it doing some stuff :P |
| 15:45.48 | *** join/#debian enkrypt (~jan@d51A487AD.access.telenet.be) |
| 15:46.14 | GNU\colossus | http://paste.debian.net/224274/ - is Iceweasel 18.0 from experimental broken for wheezy, or am I doing something wrong? |
| 15:46.42 | *** join/#debian berserkr (~david@212.122.105.187.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 15:46.48 | *** join/#debian bboiye (~bboiye@207.191.248.128) |
| 15:47.07 | *** part/#debian JimLesta (~user@unaffiliated/jimlesta) |
| 15:47.55 | wols_ | GNU\colossus: why don't you use mozilla.debian.net? |
| 15:48.09 | wols_ | and experimental is ALWAYS broken: it's why the package is in there to begin with |
| 15:48.18 | Dennis8162 | oh the promt thingy came back, next step i guess :P |
| 15:48.49 | GNU\colossus | wols_, have you checked the site for wheezy yet? ;) |
| 15:48.58 | GNU\colossus | they explicitely tell you to use experimental there. |
| 15:49.26 | Dennis8162 | do i nee sudo in this? :: |
| 15:49.27 | Dennis8162 | make -j3 && sudo make install |
| 15:49.28 | *** join/#debian b1rkh0ff (~b1rkh0ff@178.77.10.139) |
| 15:49.43 | Dennis8162 | im in cd rorserver-trunk/ |
| 15:49.55 | wols_ | GNU\colossus: then you are SOL if it needs a different nss lib it seems |
| 15:50.02 | *** join/#debian b_52globe (~b_52globe@41.248.121.202) |
| 15:50.15 | Dennis8162 | buidling xd |
| 15:50.47 | Dennis8162 | how can i do this, please: go to /etc/rorserver and look at the .cfg files. One file represents one server. |
| 15:50.48 | *** join/#debian jkfod1 (~Greg_od@79.140.6.213) |
| 15:51.25 | *** join/#debian a111 (~a111a111@host-2-98-104-178.as13285.net) |
| 15:51.41 | wols_ | ,depends libnss3 sid |
| 15:51.42 | judd | Package libnss3 in sid/i386 -- depends: libc6 (>= 2.7), libnspr4 (>= 2:4.9-2~) | libnspr4-0d (>= 4.8.6), libsqlite3-0 (>= 3.5.9), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4),multiarch-support. |
| 15:51.57 | wols_ | GNU\colossus: from the looks of it, the sid version of the library should cleanly install in wheezy. your choice |
| 15:52.00 | Dennis8162 | crap channel window moved in icecchat |
| 15:52.14 | *** join/#debian erikja (~erikja@188.182.120.95) |
| 15:52.29 | *** part/#debian Dennis8162 (~IceChat77@unaffiliated/dennis8162) |
| 15:52.50 | *** join/#debian Quix0r (~quix0r@dslb-178-009-010-033.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:53.35 | *** join/#debian Dennis8162 (~mirc@host86-168-31-49.range86-168.btcentralplus.com) |
| 15:54.08 | Dennis8162 | Damn it |
| 15:54.13 | Dennis8162 | i get error |
| 15:54.17 | Dennis8162 | [100%] Built target rorserver |
| 15:54.17 | Dennis8162 | [sudo] password for rorserver: |
| 15:54.17 | Dennis8162 | rorserver is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. |
| 15:54.17 | Dennis8162 | rorserver@xnerogaming:~/rorserver-trunk$ |
| 15:54.18 | *** kick/#debian [Dennis8162!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (flood) |
| 15:54.28 | *** join/#debian Dennis8162 (~mirc@host86-168-31-49.range86-168.btcentralplus.com) |
| 15:54.37 | Dennis8162 | hmm let me use patebin |
| 15:54.45 | *** join/#debian Yoshi1 (~yoshi@173.206.30.35) |
| 15:55.10 | Yoshi1 | how come the dpkg --add-architecture i386 doesnt actually seem to work |
| 15:55.13 | Dennis8162 | i get error |
| 15:55.19 | *** part/#debian Dennis8162 (~mirc@host86-168-31-49.range86-168.btcentralplus.com) |
| 15:55.39 | *** join/#debian Dennis8162 (~mirc@unaffiliated/dennis8162) |
| 15:55.39 | Yoshi1 | it gives unknown option but it's in the wiki for installing skype |
| 15:55.42 | *** join/#debian WildTux (~WildTux@128.66.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 15:55.46 | Dennis8162 | i get error http://pastebin.com/GkFf1U4Q |
| 15:56.23 | Dennis8162 | not sure what it is :( |
| 15:56.56 | *** join/#debian b1rkh0ff (~b1rkh0ff@178.77.10.139) |
| 15:57.05 | Yoshi1 | it means what it says google adding someone to sudoers in debian to find out how to use visudo |
| 15:57.10 | Yoshi1 | Dennis8162: |
| 15:57.19 | Dennis8162 | so it works? |
| 15:57.28 | *** join/#debian Greedi (~Greedi@unaffiliated/greedi) |
| 15:57.32 | themill | Yoshi1: what release of debian are you using? |
| 15:57.42 | Yoshi1 | Dennis8162: yeah but installs of debian dont have any users added to the sudoers file |
| 15:57.46 | Yoshi1 | themill: squeeze |
| 15:57.59 | Dennis8162 | how can i do this: |
| 15:58.00 | themill | Yoshi1: and what release of debian are these instructions written for? |
| 15:58.00 | Dennis8162 | go to /etc/rorserver and look at the .cfg files |
| 15:58.08 | Dennis8162 | how do i do that? |
| 15:58.33 | Yoshi1 | themill: didnt think that was a 7.0 exclusive |
| 15:58.45 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@78.181.118.75) |
| 15:58.46 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 15:58.48 | themill | Dennis8162: "adduser username sudo" is the easy way of giving a user permissive sudo access |
| 15:59.11 | Dennis8162 | k |
| 15:59.18 | *** join/#debian wolkengucker (~wolkenguc@dsbg-4db56b7e.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 15:59.28 | *** join/#debian Greedi (~Greedi@unaffiliated/greedi) |
| 15:59.56 | jelly-home | Dennis8162: cd /etc/rorserver; ls -la; less somefilename |
| 16:00.06 | Dennis8162 | ok |
| 16:00.09 | Dennis8162 | i got winscp |
| 16:00.12 | Dennis8162 | so ill use that :) |
| 16:02.10 | Dennis8162 | etc not found :( |
| 16:02.16 | Dennis8162 | wtf |
| 16:02.28 | *** join/#debian DeltaHeavy (~DeltaHeav@d24-204-219-104.home4.cgocable.net) |
| 16:02.32 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe (~havoc@89.146.182.61) |
| 16:03.02 | Yoshi1 | ok now how do i install this 32 bit deb once i have the ia32 libs installed |
| 16:03.15 | jelly-home | Dennis8162: slashes are important |
| 16:03.31 | Dennis8162 | yeah no etc folder? |
| 16:04.04 | jelly-home | Dennis8162: again, slashes are important. Do you mean /etc ? |
| 16:04.21 | Dennis8162 | it says, go to /etc/rorserver and look at the .cfg files. One file represents one server. |
| 16:04.39 | Dennis8162 | im not sure where the etc folder is there is not one |
| 16:04.45 | Dennis8162 | even in win scp |
| 16:04.52 | jelly-home | Dennis8162: best open an ssh session and learn to use the interactive shell. |
| 16:04.56 | Dennis8162 | k |
| 16:04.58 | themill | dpkg: tell Dennis8162 about general cli tutorial |
| 16:05.04 | Dennis8162 | maybe etc is a example? |
| 16:05.10 | *** join/#debian viario (~viario@ppp-61-31.26-151.libero.it) |
| 16:05.12 | themill | no |
| 16:05.16 | Dennis8162 | like cd /root/rorserver |
| 16:05.21 | Dennis8162 | oh k |
| 16:05.28 | dorp | I've installed a fresh Debian 6 64bit, I've installed: firmware-iwlwifi, libiw30, wireless-tools, multiarch-support, libdbus-1-3, wpasupplicant - activated my wireless internet connection. After a reboot, I get: "Starting NTS common utilities: statd" which hangs for quite a while... I've googled it, but couldn't really understand what could be done to sort it out? |
| 16:05.50 | dorp | "NFS common" <-- typo |
| 16:06.40 | phogg | dorp: do you need nfs support? |
| 16:06.44 | jelly-home | multiarch-support in debian 6? |
| 16:06.50 | jelly-home | judd: v multiarch-support |
| 16:06.51 | judd | Package: multiarch-support on i386 -- wheezy: 2.13-37; sid: 2.13-38; experimental: 2.16-0experimental1 |
| 16:06.55 | dorp | phogg: No |
| 16:07.22 | dorp | jelly-home: It was a dependency of libdbus-1-3 which was a depedency of wpasupplicant |
| 16:07.26 | jelly-home | dorp: remove nfs-common package. |
| 16:07.54 | *** join/#debian ehlu (~niklas@89.221.247.97) |
| 16:07.54 | *** join/#debian stonerfish (~stonerfis@cpe-66-74-177-116.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 16:08.04 | jelly-home | dorp: it seems your debian is either not 6, or it's using newer packages from somewhere |
| 16:08.18 | *** join/#debian Innocentus (~chatzilla@47.64.44.194) |
| 16:08.25 | phogg | dorp: update-rc.d nfs-common disable $(runlevel | cut -d' ' -f2) |
| 16:08.26 | dorp | jelly-home: I downloaded it manually and installed it via a USB stick |
| 16:08.34 | phogg | or yeah, just remove it works too |
| 16:09.05 | *** join/#debian valdyn (~valdyn@valdyn.org) |
| 16:09.10 | *** join/#debian streuner__ (~streuner@mnhm-5f751f7a.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 16:09.12 | jelly-home | I'm not sure whether portmap/rpcbind could be disabled as well, of if some silly part of gnome uses it |
| 16:09.17 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1319] by debhelper |
| 16:09.26 | Dennis8162 | i get this error -sh: cd: /etc/rorserver: No such file or directory |
| 16:09.27 | dorp | jelly-home: I don't have GUI |
| 16:09.43 | Dennis8162 | i dont know ant thutotial is confuing as i know nothing about linux vps |
| 16:09.57 | Dennis8162 | so ic ant associate stuff with it |
| 16:10.53 | *** join/#debian ottermaton (~mark@c-174-54-168-113.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 16:11.16 | jelly-home | Dennis8162: this means some previous step failed, one that was meant to create that directory and install stuff in it |
| 16:11.30 | jelly-home | thus, there really is no such directory at all |
| 16:11.57 | *** join/#debian NEUR0 (~x@252.61.85.79.rev.sfr.net) |
| 16:12.55 | *** join/#debian aroundthfur (~koinoyoka@host-124-93.panorama.sth.ac.at) |
| 16:12.58 | *** join/#debian FernandoBasso (~Fernando@201-15-137-216.paemt705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 16:13.10 | Dennis8162 | oh ok |
| 16:13.20 | Dennis8162 | how do i sudo add again? |
| 16:13.49 | dorp | Thanks for the suggestion of removing nfs-common, now it boots fine |
| 16:14.35 | *** join/#debian yunapjuna (~yunapjuna@84.84-48-225.nextgentel.com) |
| 16:14.37 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@174.32.161.34) |
| 16:14.40 | *** join/#debian serjs (~serjs@79.164.65.242) |
| 16:15.23 | *** join/#debian Esa_1 (~esa.syt@108-250-33-79.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 16:15.32 | jelly-home | Dennis8162: <themill> Dennis8162: "adduser username sudo" is the easy way of giving a user permissive sudo access |
| 16:16.15 | *** join/#debian arif-ali (~arif-ali@94-192-24-56.zone6.bethere.co.uk) |
| 16:17.27 | *** join/#debian Ealdor (~Ealdor@134.red-83-57-123.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) |
| 16:17.39 | *** join/#debian a111 (~a111a111@2.98.104.178) |
| 16:17.52 | Yoshi1 | oh come on i manage to get skype installed bu it wont run |
| 16:17.55 | joj | close |
| 16:17.58 | *** part/#debian joj (1689877@unaffiliated/joj) |
| 16:19.01 | *** join/#debian troyano_s (~ircap@80.174.253.172.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 16:19.05 | *** part/#debian troyano_s (~ircap@80.174.253.172.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 16:19.26 | *** join/#debian cyberpsi (cyberpsi@186.212.142.249) |
| 16:21.14 | *** part/#debian Dennis8162 (~mirc@unaffiliated/dennis8162) |
| 16:22.49 | *** join/#debian |oop (~pool@c-69-253-114-150.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 16:22.53 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: how does it fail to run, when you start it from a terminal emulator? |
| 16:23.15 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 16:23.16 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: skype: error while loading shared libraries: libQtDBus.so.4: cannot open shared |
| 16:23.34 | *** part/#debian iToast (~iToast@bas4-unionville55-1279488483.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 16:23.35 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: says no such file or directory |
| 16:23.53 | *** join/#debian master_of_master (~master_of@p57B521B9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:23.54 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: pastebin the output of ldd $(which skype) please |
| 16:24.26 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: which debian release are you using and which skype binary package have you installed? |
| 16:24.44 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: using squeeze skype 4.0.0.7 |
| 16:24.57 | *** join/#debian nim__ (~nim@46.246.176.80.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 16:25.15 | jelly-home | 4.0 won't work on 64bit squeeze, I think it needs multiarch-support |
| 16:26.09 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: you add the ia32 libs it''s the download you get from http://wiki.debian.org/skype in the squeeze section |
| 16:26.49 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: how exactly do i use ldd? |
| 16:26.53 | *** part/#debian Hugh_Man (~kvirc@c-68-61-229-187.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 16:27.13 | jelly-home | run the exact command "ldd $(which skype)" |
| 16:28.08 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: again, it won't work on 64bit squeeze. It might probably work on 32bit squeeze |
| 16:28.14 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/mxH4uv3g |
| 16:28.39 | *** join/#debian rikonor (~rikonor@bzq-84-108-66-52.cablep.bezeqint.net) |
| 16:28.46 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: i had this skype working like 30 minutes ago until i had to reinstall debian cause of guided partitioning issues |
| 16:28.49 | themill | the "generic dynamic" download (not the .deb) is alleged to work on squeeze/i386 with a little bit of manual copying around of libraries |
| 16:29.10 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: 4.0? |
| 16:29.19 | themill | Yoshi1: you were quite probably running an older version of skype -- they recently removed some of the downloads that were available |
| 16:29.31 | jelly-home | 2.2 would fare better with squeeze ia32-libs |
| 16:29.32 | *** join/#debian Cobal (~Elive_use@50-83-72-89.client.mchsi.com) |
| 16:29.36 | *** part/#debian mandark (~mandark@ks311156.kimsufi.com) |
| 16:29.42 | *** join/#debian WinstonSmith (~WinstonSm@unaffiliated/winstonsmith) |
| 16:29.43 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: not unless they changed the version cause this is the same page i used to get it running the first time |
| 16:29.55 | *** join/#debian arif-ali (~arif-ali@94-192-24-56.zone6.bethere.co.uk) |
| 16:30.19 | themill | Yoshi1: "the first time" was 1 hour ago? 1 week ago? 1 year ago? |
| 16:30.30 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~Tom@p5DDFDC14.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:30.36 | jelly-home | this is one reason why I still suggest installing i386 debian for workstation |
| 16:31.01 | *** join/#debian arif-ali (~arif-ali@94-192-24-56.zone6.bethere.co.uk) |
| 16:31.05 | *** join/#debian chaiz (~chaiz@ppp-124-121-104-173.revip2.asianet.co.th) |
| 16:31.13 | *** join/#debian korhojoa (~korhojoa@gprs-prointernet-c2d77b-179.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 16:32.07 | Yoshi1 | well where can i get a 2.2 deb? |
| 16:32.27 | *** join/#debian meti (~meti@gateway/tor-sasl/meti) |
| 16:32.31 | jelly-home | http://download.skype.com/linux/skype-debian_2.2.0.35-1_amd64.deb |
| 16:32.56 | jelly-home | if it's still there |
| 16:33.01 | Yoshi1 | wierd thing is how is it that it couldnt find the libqt components when you cant install skype without them |
| 16:33.23 | jelly-home | that package isn't meant to be run on squeeze at all |
| 16:33.51 | jelly-home | you could find those libs in i386 and just put them in place |
| 16:33.51 | Yoshi1 | then it honeslty shouldnt be in the squeeze section of the debian wiki on how to install skype |
| 16:34.11 | *** join/#debian tom___ (~tom@93.186.149.186) |
| 16:34.13 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: it probably works on i386 squeeze |
| 16:34.29 | jelly-home | "http://download.skype.com/linux/skype-debian_4.0.0.7-1_i386.deb works on Debian 6.0" |
| 16:34.45 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: do you have an i386 or an amd64 installation? |
| 16:34.50 | Yoshi1 | amd64 |
| 16:35.02 | *** join/#debian buibex (~buibex@95.76.228.159) |
| 16:35.02 | Yoshi1 | i dont see why i shoudlny have an amd64 install when i have a 64 bit processor |
| 16:35.07 | jelly-home | and that page does not say anything about squeeze amd64. |
| 16:35.18 | themill | Yoshi1: skype does work on squeeze, it's just hard work to get it to work and the instructions seem to change on a monthly basis as skype changes the packages they offer |
| 16:35.24 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: because then you get issues like this one :-) |
| 16:35.58 | themill | Yoshi1: you might like to read https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA12120/getting-started-with-skype-for-linux#2.2 |
| 16:36.22 | jelly-home | prefers his OS to operate and stay out of the way... and i386 still fares better at that |
| 16:36.29 | Yoshi1 | thanks for the 2.2. link that works |
| 16:36.42 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 16:37.09 | yeehi | i tried to install 32 bit debian stable in virtual box. It wouldn't install properly - what is the problem with this? |
| 16:37.46 | *** join/#debian tjiggi_fo (~grumpy@c-50-138-47-168.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 16:37.48 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: that particular package for skype might break a bit at uninstall time, their 2.x packages were very hacky |
| 16:37.55 | themill | yeehi: that's umm... a bit vague. |
| 16:37.57 | wols_ | yeehi: unless you give us more pertinent info, it's not possible to help |
| 16:38.12 | Yoshi1 | broke how? |
| 16:38.14 | yeehi | sorry the mill / wols_ |
| 16:38.27 | yeehi | I thought it would have been widely known problem |
| 16:38.41 | *** join/#debian chimay (~chimay@unaffiliated/chimay) |
| 16:39.15 | yeehi | I will try to reinstall and capture the error info. I would have done that before, but VB recommended that i halt the virtual machine, and I clicked and lost all the details |
| 16:44.19 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 16:44.48 | *** join/#debian Dennis8162 (~mirc@unaffiliated/dennis8162) |
| 16:45.04 | Dennis8162 | the gameserver is finally insatlling, thankyou so much :) :) |
| 16:48.42 | *** join/#debian judgen (~judgen@46-236-89-118.customer.t3.se) |
| 16:49.03 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~ulises11@213.37.174.70.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 16:49.14 | Yoshi1 | so is alsa advised for realtek audio chips or is there something better? |
| 16:49.18 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1313] by debhelper |
| 16:49.33 | wols_ | yeehi: why reinstall? just restart your VM |
| 16:50.09 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: alsa is the least problematic at this point |
| 16:50.51 | Yoshi1 | hmmm alsa comes standard with debian though no? cause if so my sound is only half working |
| 16:51.19 | judgen | Yoshi1: at the moment there are only two general driver packages for linux sound systems so alsa or OSS4, pick your favourite. |
| 16:51.54 | judgen | Yoshi1: what do you mean by half working? |
| 16:52.07 | Yoshi1 | judgen: headphone jack works speakers dont |
| 16:52.10 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~Matrix@client-86-23-124-253.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com) |
| 16:52.13 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~Matrix@unaffiliated/mang0) |
| 16:52.15 | *** join/#debian osfd (~osfd@mar44-6-78-238-152-140.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 16:52.26 | yeehi | wols - i never managed to get debian to install in the first place. I seem to have overcome the problem by going straight for a text install, rather than booting to the live cd and then installing. |
| 16:52.44 | judgen | on a realtek chip you do not have a hardware mixer and you would also requre a software mixer like pulseaudio jackd or esd. |
| 16:53.05 | *** join/#debian vhadil (~ping__@125.162.229.135) |
| 16:53.14 | judgen | to get all those jacks and things going |
| 16:53.15 | Yoshi1 | ah. ok which of the mixers is the better? |
| 16:53.28 | acrg | so a wheezy PXE network install gives me a 404 when fetching network-preseed 1.56 - anyone know about this ? |
| 16:53.29 | judgen | none of them is better, all are good at different things |
| 16:53.31 | acrg | (I've tried several mirrors) |
| 16:53.44 | judgen | jackd is gernerally regarded very higly as it has very low latency |
| 16:54.02 | judgen | pulseaudio is easiest to configure |
| 16:54.11 | themill | fsvo easy |
| 16:54.12 | judgen | esd is better for old cards in my view |
| 16:54.15 | *** join/#debian Nrth (nrth@cpc10-nrte22-2-0-cust127.8-4.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 16:54.37 | judgen | old is in ancient |
| 16:54.42 | judgen | as* |
| 16:55.21 | *** join/#debian tonetto (~tonetto@89.128.41.226) |
| 16:55.22 | judgen | jackd+wine probably gives you the best wine gaming experience. |
| 16:55.26 | *** join/#debian streuner_ (~streuner@mnhm-4d019779.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 16:55.26 | Yoshi1 | judgen: there a guide as how to get jack started once installed? |
| 16:55.45 | judgen | depends on what distro but there are wikis for almost all distros |
| 16:56.00 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: run alsamixer, verify all outputs are unmuted and the volume is up |
| 16:57.17 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: but if you have newish hardware, esp. on a laptop, having partial output means the driver doesn't yet have all the tweaks for your board. In general this is solved with newer drivers. That means newer kernel. |
| 16:57.24 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: alsa mixer says cannot open mixer no such device |
| 16:57.52 | judgen | it is one word and included in the alsa-utils package |
| 16:57.59 | judgen | or is it alsa-tools? |
| 16:58.12 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: weird, ls -la /dev/snd/ ? |
| 16:58.16 | jelly-home | (pastebin) |
| 16:58.42 | jelly-home | judgen: he said "cannot open mixer", not "command not found" |
| 16:58.55 | judgen | aah |
| 16:59.24 | judgen | forgot to add your user to audio in /etc/passwd? |
| 16:59.45 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/fis7MDrV |
| 17:00.35 | *** join/#debian berserkr (~david@212.122.105.187.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 17:00.36 | *** join/#debian tech_ (~tech@204.116.44.212) |
| 17:01.01 | Yoshi1 | wait what about adding user to audio? |
| 17:01.23 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: hm. At least some control devices are there. Does it run as root? |
| 17:01.38 | Yoshi1 | no |
| 17:01.40 | Yoshi1 | same result |
| 17:02.08 | Yoshi1 | judgen: what was that about adding a user to audio? |
| 17:02.36 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: that's useful, but running as root would work around that issue |
| 17:03.09 | judgen | if you can start the mixer as root, then you have not added your user to the file |
| 17:03.17 | judgen | it can be added with the passwd command |
| 17:03.23 | *** join/#debian v1c3 (~v1c3@95-91-241-73-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 17:03.33 | v1c3 | hello, i need ubuntu-server and windows-server on ONE mashine mostly for webservices. What's the ebst way to do that? One OS in a VM? Both in VMs? KVM, Qemu, Xen, vmware, virtualBox? |
| 17:03.49 | Yoshi1 | even the alsamixer gui wont fun |
| 17:03.50 | Yoshi1 | run |
| 17:03.55 | wols_ | vlt: why do you ask #debian this? |
| 17:03.59 | themill | dpkg: tell v1c3 about cross-post |
| 17:04.05 | *** join/#debian HeXiLeD (~L3D@69.196.165.41) |
| 17:04.06 | *** join/#debian HeXiLeD (~L3D@unaffiliated/hexiled) |
| 17:04.21 | Yoshi1 | function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 17:04.45 | *** join/#debian Wyzard (~mike@pool-72-81-139-207.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) |
| 17:05.32 | v1c3 | themill :( |
| 17:05.36 | floogy | Hi I get 554 5.7.1 : Relay access denied when sending a test email from ca-cert.org (adding the server domain). I want to avoid being an open relay, but I also want to create a server certificate with cacert. |
| 17:06.10 | Yoshi1 | judgen: the command runs the same root or no just gives an error |
| 17:06.12 | *** join/#debian Jekyll (~whodare@114.249.222.148) |
| 17:06.22 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: which kernel are you running? |
| 17:06.27 | Towzzer | not sure how cacert works but you are just trying send mail through another server to a user that isn't on that domain |
| 17:06.39 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: whats the command to find that out? |
| 17:06.43 | Towzzer | like me- > google's mail server with a destination of yahoo |
| 17:06.47 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: uname -a is one |
| 17:07.05 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: Linux Yoshi-PKD 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Sun Sep 23 10:07:46 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 17:07.09 | floogy | root@server.org is on that domain I think |
| 17:07.50 | Yoshi1 | dont tell me the squeeze image is running on a horribly outdated kernel |
| 17:08.06 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: there might be some process already hogging the device(s) I guess. What does "aplay -l" say? |
| 17:08.26 | *** join/#debian Ephemeris959 (~binny@pool-72-77-109-106.pitbpa.east.verizon.net) |
| 17:08.27 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: says no sound cards found |
| 17:08.35 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: even as root? |
| 17:09.00 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: i tend to run those sorts of command in my root terminal so yeah even as root |
| 17:09.05 | jelly-home | nod |
| 17:09.18 | jelly-home | I have no idea why this happens. |
| 17:09.27 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: what about "fuser -v /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp /dev/mixer" |
| 17:09.36 | *** join/#debian meti (~meti@gateway/tor-sasl/meti) |
| 17:09.44 | *** join/#debian phaer (~phaer@chello080108051063.9.11.vie.surfer.at) |
| 17:09.53 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: that did nothing |
| 17:10.21 | jelly-home | so you have lots of alsa devices, but apparently userspace doesn't see any |
| 17:10.31 | jelly-home | and they're not in use, either |
| 17:10.51 | *** join/#debian Roberto (b8118153@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.17.129.83) |
| 17:10.52 | Yoshi1 | and yet sound from one headphone jack |
| 17:10.58 | *** join/#debian Ishango (~Ishango@184.17.171.211) |
| 17:11.20 | jelly-home | which application do you use for that sound? |
| 17:11.28 | Roberto | I'm running Debian Testing. What is the easiest, most maintainable, beginner-friendly way to install a recent version of Wine (preferably 1.5)? |
| 17:11.33 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: rhythmbox is currently playing an mp3 |
| 17:12.12 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: install "lsof", pastebin the output of lsof -np $(pidof rhythmbox|head -n 1) |
| 17:12.37 | *** join/#debian belundger (~beelluunn@c-75-71-121-237.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 17:12.44 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: lsof already installed |
| 17:13.22 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/v7BeRkDh |
| 17:13.48 | *** join/#debian cheese1756 (~cheese175@192.40.56.243) |
| 17:14.05 | phogg | Roberto: is building from source sufficiently friendly? That's what I do. Alternately, winehq links to a guy who maintains .debs for fairly recent versions that may work in testing. |
| 17:14.15 | jelly-home | rhythmbox 2594 yoshi 30w CHR 116,4 0t0 3847 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p (deleted) |
| 17:14.41 | Yoshi1 | greek to me sorry |
| 17:14.49 | jelly-home | it's using alsa. |
| 17:14.55 | Roberto | phogg: If I install one of this guy's .debs, how do I go about uninstalling it if I decide to want to in the future? |
| 17:15.00 | Yoshi1 | ok |
| 17:15.18 | phogg | Roberto: same as any other package |
| 17:15.25 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: I'm stumped, can you reboot and see if that makes any changes wrt alsamixer? |
| 17:15.33 | Yoshi1 | wrt? |
| 17:15.37 | jelly-home | with regard to |
| 17:15.44 | Yoshi1 | alright brb |
| 17:16.02 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 17:16.39 | JoshuaP | How do I view users on my servers? |
| 17:16.50 | *** join/#debian Ishango (~Ishango@184.17.171.211) |
| 17:17.03 | jelly-home | JoshuaP: "w" |
| 17:17.20 | jelly-home | to show users currently logged in |
| 17:17.39 | JoshuaP | I want to see all the user accounts I have. |
| 17:17.51 | phogg | JoshuaP: getent passwd |
| 17:18.30 | *** join/#debian crank1988 (~crank1988@178-84-207-74.dynamic.upc.nl) |
| 17:18.31 | *** join/#debian [0x1a] (uid7337@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tzvklccwoptquegj) |
| 17:19.31 | *** join/#debian Yoshi1 (~yoshi@173.206.30.35) |
| 17:19.54 | *** join/#debian dman7 (uid7765@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlqcjkvjvdfaxciq) |
| 17:19.57 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: ok should i just load an mp3 or do you have some commands to run first? |
| 17:20.02 | *** join/#debian drinkycrow (~drinkycro@c-98-212-215-137.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 17:20.11 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: just try alsamixer again |
| 17:20.23 | Yoshi1 | ooo worked |
| 17:21.34 | Yoshi1 | but the sound card selection is only showing my hda intel |
| 17:21.36 | jelly-home | now play something with rhythmbox and see if messing with mixer helps for the speaker out |
| 17:21.51 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: press F6 to see the card list |
| 17:22.09 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: yes i know thats how i know it is only showing that card |
| 17:22.30 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: how many cards do you have? |
| 17:22.47 | *** join/#debian hasdf (~Hasdf@188-192-77-165-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 17:23.23 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~john@host81-141-166-9.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 17:23.25 | Yoshi1 | well theres the realtek chip and i thought that was all i had but apparently theres this intel backup i guess |
| 17:23.38 | Yoshi1 | and theres no change in playback just the one headphone jack no speakers |
| 17:23.48 | jelly-home | the realtek chip is onboard? |
| 17:24.06 | *** join/#debian tgs3 (~tgs3@25.seven.greendata.pl) |
| 17:24.25 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: yes |
| 17:24.28 | tgs3 | can logrotate stop a log file that is spammed and grows in incredible speed like 1 GB in a minute? |
| 17:24.45 | tgs3 | and rotate such a file even each minute to limit disk size used by this logs |
| 17:24.46 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: "Intel HDA" is how an onboard sound chip gets connected to the PCI bus. It's the same thing |
| 17:25.07 | *** join/#debian garulf (~garulf@chello085216168030.chello.sk) |
| 17:25.08 | garulf | hi |
| 17:25.17 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: i see |
| 17:25.43 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: but i'm not getting full functionality out of it |
| 17:26.12 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: ok. _Now_ you can try using a newer kernel. :-) |
| 17:26.25 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: /msg dpkg bdo kernel |
| 17:26.43 | JoshuaP | How do I view all the groups on my servers? |
| 17:26.48 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: also, /msg dpkg bdo |
| 17:26.52 | *** join/#debian richardb1anson (~pi@host86-182-92-130.range86-182.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:26.53 | Yoshi1 | i assume without the /msg? |
| 17:26.56 | *** join/#debian serjs (~serjs@79.164.65.242) |
| 17:27.00 | Yoshi1 | ok |
| 17:27.01 | Yoshi1 | oh |
| 17:27.01 | Yoshi1 | bot |
| 17:27.05 | jelly-home | JoshuaP: getent group |
| 17:27.08 | *** join/#debian jasonwert (~w3rt@96-42-148-132.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) |
| 17:27.16 | *** join/#debian meti (~meti@gateway/tor-sasl/meti) |
| 17:27.59 | Yoshi1 | confused by bot |
| 17:29.14 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: first, read the instructions on http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 17:29.37 | jelly-home | then do what the "bdo kernel" things says |
| 17:30.08 | *** part/#debian acrg (~aragon@decoder.geek.sh) |
| 17:30.10 | jelly-home | that's all one command: aptitude -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` |
| 17:30.30 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@78.181.118.75) |
| 17:30.31 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 17:31.17 | *** join/#debian e1z0 (~null@netlinux/founder/e1z0) |
| 17:31.32 | *** join/#debian garulf (~garulf@chello085216168030.chello.sk) |
| 17:32.08 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: ok that was minimally instructive |
| 17:32.25 | jelly-home | it's terse yes |
| 17:32.40 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@2001:4dd0:ff00:8421:6e62:6dff:fe4a:e47d) |
| 17:33.00 | Yoshi1 | i need more of a step by step tutorial if i am going to do this with any level of confidence |
| 17:33.14 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 17:34.00 | *** join/#debian streuner__ (~streuner@mnhm-4d019142.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 17:34.10 | *** join/#debian richardbranson (~pi@host86-176-27-177.range86-176.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:34.39 | jelly-home | you can do it we trust in you!!! |
| 17:35.47 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: i dont even know how to start and since this is a sort of thing which can break my shit and cause a nessecary reinstall i dont think i'm willing to do this without some level of confidence i can succeed and some idea what the hell i am doing' |
| 17:36.22 | Yoshi1 | i mean ok so i added the source in my source list thingy like the webpage says but whoopdy doo where do i go from there |
| 17:37.34 | jelly-home | after running the update, use the nasty command above to install a kernel from there |
| 17:37.50 | Yoshi1 | what nasty command? |
| 17:37.52 | *** join/#debian Hugh_Man (~kvirc@c-68-61-229-187.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 17:37.53 | jelly-home | aptitude -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` |
| 17:37.57 | *** join/#debian Innocentus_ (~chatzilla@ltea-047-064-100-080.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 17:38.07 | Yoshi1 | what kernel? |
| 17:38.22 | jelly-home | a newer kernel from squeeze-backports. |
| 17:38.43 | Yoshi1 | i find a list of these where? and where do i put it in? |
| 17:38.51 | garulf | hi guys, how can i determine the default font of xterm? |
| 17:38.59 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: that's it, you don't need a list |
| 17:39.17 | Yoshi1 | then how does it know what what kernel to put in? |
| 17:39.30 | jelly-home | just run the command. |
| 17:39.52 | Yoshi1 | running |
| 17:40.04 | jelly-home | the uname ... | sed ... thing figures out which kernel you need |
| 17:40.05 | garulf | and also, my xterm start to don't recognize some keys (alt+b, Alt+f), and put a strange chars instead. What have I to check? I've no clue |
| 17:40.08 | Yoshi1 | but that doesnt look like a completed command |
| 17:40.20 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: does it work? |
| 17:40.32 | Yoshi1 | it appears to but the reboot when it is done will tell all |
| 17:40.49 | *** join/#debian xomrk (~bolo@77.87.0.1) |
| 17:40.50 | jelly-home | is it installing a 3.2.something kernel? |
| 17:40.58 | Yoshi1 | yeah |
| 17:41.03 | Yoshi1 | and ended in a text file of some kind |
| 17:41.10 | jelly-home | so why do you think it's incomplete |
| 17:41.12 | *** join/#debian flami (~quassel@HSI-KBW-085-216-048-067.hsi.kabelbw.de) |
| 17:41.26 | Yoshi1 | because it looks incomplete |
| 17:41.40 | wols_ | !tell Yoshi1 about bat |
| 17:41.48 | Yoshi1 | the command looks like a mess of erg whats that crap called |
| 17:42.04 | jhutchins | Yoshi1: If it's incomplete and you try it, what's the worst that could happen? |
| 17:42.29 | Yoshi1 | my system break completly and i have to install for a third time in 12 hours? |
| 17:42.34 | jelly-home | it kills his kitten |
| 17:42.38 | Yoshi1 | that too |
| 17:42.42 | *** join/#debian balordo (~balordo@host87-108-dynamic.117-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 17:42.47 | Yoshi1 | so i guess reboot now |
| 17:42.48 | jhutchins | No, it just doesn't work. |
| 17:43.03 | Yoshi1 | well no the worst is it work just enough to break the system |
| 17:43.04 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: yeah, and make sure the 3.2 one gets booted |
| 17:43.06 | jhutchins | Yoshi1: The regex just determines the system |
| 17:43.12 | jhutchins | 's current arch. |
| 17:43.16 | jelly-home | ^_^ |
| 17:43.21 | jhutchins | In my case, it returns "i686". |
| 17:44.10 | *** join/#debian garulf (~garulf@chello085216168030.chello.sk) |
| 17:45.01 | jelly-home | garulf: it depends, are you using actual xterm or some other terminal emulator? |
| 17:45.14 | *** join/#debian Innocentus (~chatzilla@ltea-047-064-119-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 17:45.24 | *** join/#debian neersighted (neer@is.a.slave.to.neersighted.com) |
| 17:45.35 | jelly-home | xterm has a -fn option to set a different font for one run |
| 17:45.45 | *** join/#debian cardamon (~mute@c-24-30-40-161.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 17:45.53 | *** join/#debian qwerty3 (~qwerty@cbza.pl) |
| 17:46.03 | *** join/#debian MmikeDOMA (~msplival@cpe-188-129-98-82.dynamic.amis.hr) |
| 17:46.10 | *** join/#debian serjs_ (~serjs@79.164.65.242) |
| 17:46.18 | jelly-home | and a XTerm*Font:... resource line in ~/.Xresources |
| 17:47.05 | garulf | jelly-home: is xterm, and I not using -fn option. The xterm*font lined is *-*-*- .. 18 -*-* .. meaning I'm changing only the size i think |
| 17:47.28 | jelly-home | probably |
| 17:47.53 | garulf | jelly-home: and I resolved the alt+f problem changing the line xterm*eightbitinput to false, but don't have a clue why |
| 17:48.16 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 17:48.24 | *** join/#debian mendred (~mendred@host81-129-178-82.range81-129.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:48.49 | cardamon | Trying to bring wlan0 up for the first time. iwlist scan says wlan0 network is down, ifquery -l just says lo |
| 17:49.31 | cardamon | ifup wlan0 just says Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0 |
| 17:49.45 | wols_ | cardamon: iwconfig |
| 17:50.19 | *** join/#debian n-iCe (~nice@unaffiliated/nice/x-729832) |
| 17:50.36 | n-iCe | cp -R * /folder/I/want/to/paste is not working at all I want to copy everything in / to a folder, any idea? |
| 17:50.53 | cardamon | wols_: I see a wlan0 there. |
| 17:51.20 | cardamon | I want to use wicd-curses to manage it. |
| 17:51.32 | *** join/#debian plasticle (~plasticle@ip70-160-120-156.hr.hr.cox.net) |
| 17:51.45 | cardamon | But I have to bring up the interface first. |
| 17:52.40 | wols_ | ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 17:53.55 | *** join/#debian b_52globe (~b_52globe@41.249.119.126) |
| 17:54.06 | *** join/#debian TriJetScud (~TriJetScu@d216-232-208-44.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 17:54.31 | *** join/#debian Innocentus (~chatzilla@ltea-047-064-119-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 17:54.35 | *** join/#debian nanoha-sama (~nanoha-sa@2001:470:e97f:1003:215:5dff:fe07:4806) |
| 17:54.40 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~tom@p5DDFDC14.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:55.13 | *** join/#debian neersighted (neer@is.a.slave.to.neersighted.com) |
| 17:55.20 | cardamon | Shouldn't ifup do the same...I thought ifconfig was deprecated.. |
| 17:55.27 | *** join/#debian dequeued (~dequeued@96.239.68.212) |
| 17:56.13 | cardamon | And it didn't work. agent aborted loading rt2860.bin (not found?) SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory. |
| 17:56.16 | ChibaPet | Alright! I've learned something new. One must have dselect installed and do "dselect update" before one can hope for dpkg --set-selections to work. |
| 17:56.31 | *** join/#debian nimitz (~ztimin@modemcable067.221-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 17:56.36 | nimitz | anyone here knows how to "close" a FISH session in mc (return to local fs) |
| 17:57.40 | cardamon | I think I figured it out...need nonfree firmware. |
| 17:59.28 | *** join/#debian meti_ (~meti@gateway/tor-sasl/meti) |
| 17:59.45 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc19-mapp11-2-0-cust843.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:59.59 | dawud | nimitz: cd |
| 18:00.29 | nimitz | oh wow, thanks |
| 18:00.42 | dawud | no problem, that was an easy one |
| 18:00.54 | TheGrey | o/ My HDD has the click of death..fdisk shows no HD, dmesg, shows an attempt to mount and the a "Start_Stop Failed"...and if I try to read the first sector, I cannae do so ;_;.....Are there any options left for me to recover? And if not, what are HD can you recommend? |
| 18:01.06 | *** join/#debian yoshi1 (~user@dsl-173-206-30-35.tor.primus.ca) |
| 18:01.16 | yoshi1 | please tell me we can reverse this from the live image |
| 18:01.37 | yoshi1 | Jelly-home it broke |
| 18:01.45 | jelly-home | yoshi1: how did it break>\ |
| 18:01.56 | yoshi1 | jelly-home it just hung there at populating the /dev list |
| 18:02.10 | yoshi1 | it found some issue which i dont recall exactly and wouldnt budge |
| 18:02.19 | jelly-home | yoshi1: do you have any usb devices connected? |
| 18:02.24 | yoshi1 | i had the exact same problem with the live image. i have to use the live failsafe |
| 18:02.33 | yoshi1 | not other then my mouse i didnt |
| 18:02.48 | *** join/#debian trifolio6 (~h@62.43.62.203.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 18:02.48 | yoshi1 | oh wait yeah my ecig |
| 18:02.50 | jelly-home | yoshi1: well you can always boot the old kernel from the menu |
| 18:02.58 | yoshi1 | no i cant the old kernel isnt in the menu |
| 18:03.06 | yoshi1 | only 2 kernel entries are there |
| 18:03.19 | yoshi1 | otherwise i wouldnt be on the live image right now |
| 18:03.39 | *** join/#debian dequeued (~dequeued@96.239.68.212) |
| 18:03.55 | yoshi1 | i can try nunplugging my mouse and ecig and rebooting see if that makes a diff |
| 18:03.58 | jelly-home | yoshi1: huh. oh well. mount your debian root fs someplace, chroot into it, and install linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 back |
| 18:04.14 | jelly-home | what's "ecig"? |
| 18:04.21 | *** join/#debian cra1g321 (~cra1g321_@host31-52-18-227.range31-52.btcentralplus.com) |
| 18:04.45 | yoshi1 | lemme just try this simple thing before trying a complex thing. yeah electronic cig i have a passthrough which charges the battery while plugged into the usb. it MAY have registered as a device of somekind |
| 18:04.49 | yoshi1 | brb |
| 18:04.53 | tjiggi_fo | lectric cigar |
| 18:04.55 | *** join/#debian Amanas (~Amanas@70.44.139.29.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) |
| 18:05.07 | jelly-home | probably just pulls some power |
| 18:05.49 | *** join/#debian BlastHardcheese (chris@pdpc/supporter/active/blasthardcheese) |
| 18:06.17 | *** join/#debian plotino (~miles@host21-187-dynamic.56-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 18:06.20 | *** join/#debian Oejet (~Oejet@unaffiliated/oejet) |
| 18:07.47 | *** join/#debian Martin89 (~martin89@2001:41d0:1:b6bb::3) |
| 18:09.07 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 18:09.16 | *** join/#debian Yoshi1 (~user@dsl-173-206-30-35.tor.primus.ca) |
| 18:09.18 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1323] by debhelper |
| 18:09.21 | *** join/#debian Walzmyn (~quassel@50.96.100.106) |
| 18:09.34 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, yeah some acpi thing which conflicts with region smbi |
| 18:09.47 | Yoshi1 | anyway is there someone who can walk me through this kernel install? |
| 18:09.58 | jelly-home | ohwell |
| 18:10.21 | jelly-home | searching the exact message on googles might yield a workaround |
| 18:10.37 | *** join/#debian streuner_ (~streuner@mnhm-4d018081.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 18:10.51 | jelly-home | until then, you're on this kernel with partially working snd-hda-intel |
| 18:11.05 | *** join/#debian n0body (59023984@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.2.57.132) |
| 18:11.30 | *** join/#debian Innocentus (~chatzilla@ltea-047-064-025-157.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:11.31 | plotino | hello |
| 18:11.38 | n0body | hello |
| 18:11.40 | plotino | im trying to install linu mint |
| 18:11.45 | plotino | in old notebook |
| 18:11.47 | Towzzer | oh |
| 18:11.49 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, how do you work around a crash that happens DURING boot? |
| 18:12.06 | plotino | but the ISO is over 800 MB |
| 18:12.14 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: you find a boot parameter that makes the kernel not crash |
| 18:12.26 | plotino | bad point for linux mint xfce addressed to ols platform |
| 18:12.29 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc19-mapp11-2-0-cust843.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 18:12.34 | plotino | old |
| 18:12.36 | jelly-home | !mint |
| 18:12.37 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
| 18:12.46 | Towzzer | you can use a usb drive pretty easy to work with it |
| 18:12.48 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, i dont know how to alter boot paramters any more then i know how to uninstall this defunct kernel and reinstall the old one |
| 18:12.53 | plotino | infact my noteboos is able only to boot from CD |
| 18:12.59 | plotino | no way |
| 18:13.10 | jelly-home | plotino: try irc://irc.spotchat.org/linuxmint-help |
| 18:13.14 | plotino | notebood is ACER of 2000 |
| 18:13.27 | jelly-home | this channel can't really help with mint |
| 18:13.37 | plotino | ok |
| 18:13.40 | plotino | thanks anyway |
| 18:13.49 | *** join/#debian lduros (~user@fsf/member/lduros) |
| 18:14.13 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: in grub 2 menu at boot, you can press "e" and write in stuff in the kernel loading line |
| 18:14.24 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 18:14.35 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc19-mapp11-2-0-cust843.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 18:14.37 | *** join/#debian roboman2444 (~roboman24@unaffiliated/roboman2444) |
| 18:14.45 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: that's for a temporary setting. permanent changes can be applied in /etc/default/grub file |
| 18:15.25 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: do you know how to mount the HDD installation from the livecd and chroot into it? |
| 18:16.09 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, i kind of remember how to mount but not chroot into it |
| 18:16.12 | *** join/#debian Jekyll (~whodare@114.249.222.148) |
| 18:16.17 | *** join/#debian talishte (~talishte@190.148.114.234) |
| 18:16.44 | jelly-home | chroot is just "chroot /path/to/wherever/you/mounted/it" as root |
| 18:16.57 | *** join/#debian lennox (lennox@2001:5c0:1116:9a00:e4d2:ccfb:8a9d:6765) |
| 18:17.08 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, i mean the mount command is just mount /dev/sda(#) to place like root |
| 18:17.32 | Yoshi1 | in this case i assume i'd be mounting the root partition |
| 18:18.07 | jelly-home | mount /dev/sdaX /mnt, right |
| 18:19.12 | *** join/#debian Guest86364 (~mentor@unaffiliated/mentor) |
| 18:19.34 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@174.32.161.34) |
| 18:19.40 | *** join/#debian thieh (~thieh@bas4-toronto21-2925011005.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 18:19.53 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@cpc19-mapp11-2-0-cust843.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 18:20.24 | *** join/#debian arshavin (~arshavin@49.136.98.22) |
| 18:20.36 | *** join/#debian dimaursu16 (~dimon@host-static-109-185-145-246.moldtelecom.md) |
| 18:20.53 | *** join/#debian log0ut (~meh@aetk51.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 18:21.26 | *** join/#debian belundger (~beelluunn@c-75-71-121-237.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 18:21.35 | Yoshi1 | grr chroot not working |
| 18:21.44 | Yoshi1 | oh the command doesnt appear to be there |
| 18:22.00 | *** join/#debian Trellmor (~Trellmor@server2.dgb-gaming.com) |
| 18:22.21 | arshavin | debian virtual box guest os on another linux host with gust additions shows resolutions much higher than wht my laptop supports also seamless is greyed out |
| 18:22.45 | Yoshi1 | chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory |
| 18:23.31 | Yoshi1 | so what do you do when you cant chroot |
| 18:23.50 | *** join/#debian alkul (~alk@80.red-83-61-36.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:24.53 | *** join/#debian T_oink (~BrainBug@cust-48-133-108-94.dyn.as47377.net) |
| 18:25.01 | *** join/#debian xomrk (~bolo@77.87.0.1) |
| 18:25.21 | *** join/#debian hacs (~unregiste@C2402.campino.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) |
| 18:25.47 | arshavin | Yoshi1: try this http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?topic=109136.0 |
| 18:25.48 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: you boot a 64bit livecd instead of a 32bit one |
| 18:26.13 | *** join/#debian d_arcy (~Day_dream@LDijon-156-66-35-183.w80-15.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:26.18 | jelly-home | can't enter a 64bit chroot with a running 32bit kernel |
| 18:26.19 | n0body | hello all, last week someone told me that wheezy as going to be promoted to stable this week, is this true? i download the weekly build and tryed to install it in a asus n56vz notebook, this notebook only supports efi, the setup run perfectly and installation looks good until the moment it tries to install grub |
| 18:26.35 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, yeah it made sense since i was installing a 64bit os |
| 18:27.01 | n0body | is that a know problem? will wheezy really be released this week? |
| 18:27.30 | floogy | Yoshi1, is there a cmd to list the valid postfix users and domains? |
| 18:28.03 | *** join/#debian n00b_dust (~n00b_dust@182.237.139.243) |
| 18:28.08 | Yoshi1 | floogy, i wouldnt know |
| 18:28.17 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 18:28.26 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, loop is not a valoid mount point excluding that it still wont let me chroot |
| 18:28.53 | ChibaPet | floogy: users are going to exist as system users, sasldb users, or otherwise depending on your config. Same with domains. There's not a simple answer. |
| 18:29.00 | *** join/#debian oy (~kuwe@g226232157.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 18:29.05 | floogy | Yoshi1, root@myserver.de seems not to be valid |
| 18:29.18 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1335] by debhelper |
| 18:29.26 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: where did you mount it? "loop" should have nothing to do with it |
| 18:29.34 | ChibaPet | floogy: Start reading /etc/postfix/main.cf and you should get a decent idea of how things are set up. |
| 18:29.49 | JoshuaP | Aptitude will not install openjdk-7-jre, but only openjdk-6-jre. How do I get 7? |
| 18:29.49 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, i am mountint it to /mnt |
| 18:30.02 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: and "chroot /mnt" still fails? |
| 18:30.40 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, yes |
| 18:30.42 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: is there a /mnt/bin/bash in place? |
| 18:30.58 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, what? |
| 18:31.09 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: does that file exist. |
| 18:31.45 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, locate isnt functional at the moment |
| 18:32.02 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: ls -l /mnt/bin/bash |
| 18:32.05 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, but ls says that dir doesnt exist |
| 18:32.31 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: then you didn't mount the root fs but something else, or the mount command failed |
| 18:32.32 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, but synatpic says bash is installed |
| 18:32.41 | *** join/#debian TheGrey (~TheGrey__@b0fc2b4b.bb.sky.com) |
| 18:32.45 | Yoshi1 | root fs? |
| 18:32.47 | *** join/#debian Martin89 (~martin89@2001:41d0:1:b6bb::3) |
| 18:32.56 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: you're still in the livecd right? |
| 18:32.59 | Yoshi1 | oh file system oh umm let me remount and look |
| 18:33.05 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, yes |
| 18:33.23 | jelly-home | what the livecd thinks is installed is irrelevant |
| 18:33.30 | Yoshi1 | heh |
| 18:34.06 | floogy | ChibaPet, in main.cf is my isp domain listed instead of my cname record domain (myserver.de) |
| 18:34.09 | floogy | mydestination = c123.myisp.de, localhost.myisp.de, localhost |
| 18:34.09 | floogy | myhostname = c123.myisp.de |
| 18:34.10 | *** join/#debian floe (~flo@e179017064.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 18:34.17 | *** join/#debian tremon (~aschuring@d594e6a3.dsl.concepts.nl) |
| 18:34.29 | floogy | I think that's the culprit |
| 18:35.27 | jelly-home | floogy: you want the "myhostname" setting to be whatever the PTR dns record points to. |
| 18:35.34 | floogy | Therefore relaying is denied, because postfix isn't configured for myserver.de. I think that could be configured by virtual domains? |
| 18:36.27 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@78.181.118.75) |
| 18:36.27 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 18:36.33 | AimHere | Eep. 'aptitude upgrade' seems to have borked my system, by dying in a hard-to-recover state. Currently it's complaining about not finding libraries when I type in such obscurities as 'su' or 'ls' :( |
| 18:37.15 | *** join/#debian serjs (~serjs@79.164.65.242) |
| 18:37.20 | jelly-home | AimHere: boot a livecd and inspect from there |
| 18:37.31 | AimHere | Well that's a possibility |
| 18:37.34 | jelly-home | AimHere: do you have the output of that upgrade saved? |
| 18:37.38 | Ziber | Is there somewhere I can find the netboot kernel/ramdisk for debian? |
| 18:37.55 | AimHere | It should be logged |
| 18:38.11 | floogy | jelly-home, the PTR is identical to the cname record? |
| 18:38.21 | jelly-home | AimHere: not if you didn't explicitely run it in a logging screen or under "script" tool |
| 18:38.37 | *** join/#debian brotakku (~brotakku@dslb-188-108-129-097.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:38.45 | AimHere | /var/log/aptitude and /var/log/apt/history.log should give me some sort of clue |
| 18:39.04 | *** join/#debian b1rkh0ff (~b1rkh0ff@178.77.6.46) |
| 18:39.07 | jelly-home | yeah, but not the actual output with errors |
| 18:39.07 | Yoshi1 | thing is i've mounted each of those partitions and i cant chroot into any of them |
| 18:39.10 | AimHere | Indeed |
| 18:39.16 | *** join/#debian PhilSliderS (~kvirc@2a01:e35:2f26:89b0:8c20:212b:97:1062) |
| 18:39.31 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: can you pastebin the output of "df" in the livecd? |
| 18:39.53 | jelly-home | floogy: dunno, I try to stay away from CNAMEs |
| 18:40.04 | *** join/#debian janusli (~leeb@98.199.229.83) |
| 18:40.06 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, http://pastebin.com/5tm2t4Cy |
| 18:40.25 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, did you want sda5 mounted when i did that? |
| 18:40.43 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: I don't see any /dev/sdaX mounted at present, did you umount them all? |
| 18:40.53 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: sure |
| 18:40.56 | Yoshi1 | /dev/loop1 1921036 632492 1190960 35% /mnt |
| 18:40.56 | Yoshi1 | /dev/sda5 1921036 632492 1190960 35% /mnt |
| 18:41.10 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: 2GB only for / ? |
| 18:41.25 | Yoshi1 | i made it an ext4 so i could expand it if needed |
| 18:42.01 | Yoshi1 | thing is |
| 18:42.41 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, http://pastebin.com/f3GM5jnk |
| 18:42.47 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: does ls -l /mnt/ look like your root filesystem? |
| 18:42.50 | Yoshi1 | thats the ls of sda5 it doesnt look like a root |
| 18:42.58 | jelly-home | that's /var |
| 18:43.06 | jelly-home | next... ;-) |
| 18:44.46 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, none of them seem to have boot usr or home when i ls /mnt with them mounted |
| 18:44.46 | *** join/#debian anunakki (~dawg@c-76-118-136-8.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 18:44.46 | *** join/#debian anunakki (~dawg@unaffiliated/anunakki) |
| 18:45.14 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 18:45.36 | *** join/#debian osfd (~osfd@mar44-6-78-238-152-140.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 18:46.51 | *** join/#debian xp-m (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/x-p-m) |
| 18:46.54 | Yoshi1 | found it |
| 18:46.54 | *** join/#debian Quimby (~Quimby@pollux.local.li) |
| 18:46.55 | Yoshi1 | finally |
| 18:47.05 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, yay chrooted |
| 18:47.10 | Yoshi1 | it was sda3 |
| 18:47.19 | Yoshi1 | didnt look like it on gparted mind you |
| 18:47.53 | jelly-home | install linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 inside |
| 18:48.21 | *** join/#debian thriftyspend (~mint@c-75-71-121-237.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 18:48.26 | Yoshi1 | dont know how to do that |
| 18:48.39 | jelly-home | really? aptitude install linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 18:48.43 | Yoshi1 | oh |
| 18:48.44 | xp-m | i want to use: policyd-spf-perl, spf mail filter for postfix , but i get some errors from: cat /var/log/maillog > master spawn[3567]: fatal: spawn_comand: execvp /usr/local/lib/policyd-spf-perl: Permission denied |
| 18:48.50 | Yoshi1 | that simple? i expected soemthing more complicated |
| 18:49.05 | *** join/#debian lord_rob (robert@89.66-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 18:49.06 | *** join/#debian lord_rob (robert@unaffiliated/lord-rob/x-573835) |
| 18:49.21 | jelly-home | I wonder why squeeze-backports metapackage removed it, that should not have happened |
| 18:49.24 | Yoshi1 | imma see if i cant find a work around for a bit first i cant in like 30 minutes then i'll downgrade |
| 18:49.26 | dawud | xp-m: ls -lrt /usr/local/lib/policyd-spf-perl shows executable perms, right? |
| 18:49.34 | *** join/#debian MaddinXx (~racksteri@zux221-083-035.adsl.green.ch) |
| 18:49.45 | xp-m | -rwxrwxr-x. 1 nobody nobody 13312 Jan 14 02:15 /usr/local/lib/policyd-spf-perl |
| 18:49.47 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, |
| 18:49.52 | Yoshi1 | maybe it is a setting in grub |
| 18:49.55 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: you can have both kernels installed at the same time and pick one at the boot menu |
| 18:49.57 | Yoshi1 | how many entries it will hold |
| 18:50.02 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: nope |
| 18:50.14 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@78.181.118.75) |
| 18:50.14 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 18:50.21 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, ok here goes |
| 18:50.30 | jelly-home | at least, I don't think it would be set to "1 + rescue" |
| 18:50.40 | Yoshi1 | LOL aptitude not found |
| 18:50.42 | Yoshi1 | apt-get |
| 18:50.44 | *** join/#debian roelsb (~roel@ip51ce8f4a.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) |
| 18:50.46 | dawud | xp-m: odd perms, I'd expect root:root and u=rwx,a=rx |
| 18:50.54 | Yoshi1 | nope no apt-get either |
| 18:50.55 | *** join/#debian benf (benf2004@unaffiliated/benf2004) |
| 18:50.55 | dawud | xp-m: what happens if you run it manually |
| 18:50.57 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: did you have a separate /usr ? |
| 18:50.59 | *** join/#debian Aim_Here (~yaaic@host86-165-192-2.range86-165.btcentralplus.com) |
| 18:50.59 | dawud | xp-m: ? |
| 18:51.07 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, yes |
| 18:51.13 | xp-m | dawud: it shows nothing |
| 18:51.19 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: just do "mount /usr" inside chroot |
| 18:51.22 | *** join/#debian vhadil (~ping__@125.162.229.135) |
| 18:51.33 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: if you had a separate /boot, mount that as well |
| 18:51.48 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: oh, and you'll need /var for apt to work |
| 18:51.50 | Yoshi1 | jelly dont i have to remember which sda has usr? |
| 18:51.56 | *** join/#debian edju (~edju@75-39-106-129.lightspeed.dtrtmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 18:51.57 | *** join/#debian marvinstuart (~marvinstu@cpe-184-57-132-151.cinci.res.rr.com) |
| 18:52.01 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: you don't have to remember. |
| 18:52.10 | jelly-home | just do "mount /usr" |
| 18:52.17 | jelly-home | it's listed in /etc/fstab |
| 18:52.24 | dawud | ,v spf-tools-perl |
| 18:52.25 | judd | Package: spf-tools-perl on i386 -- lenny: 2.005-1; lenny-backports: 2.007-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 2.007-1; sid: 2.8.0-1; wheezy: 2.8.0-1 |
| 18:52.29 | dawud | xp-m: ^^ |
| 18:52.30 | *** join/#debian edog (~edog@alcotrash.org) |
| 18:52.36 | Yoshi1 | special device doesnt exist |
| 18:52.43 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: ah, righto |
| 18:53.04 | dawud | xp-m: I mean, instead of installing from CPAN (if that is the case, anyway) |
| 18:53.04 | Yoshi1 | so i do have to find the right sda |
| 18:53.09 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: from outside the chroot (open a second root term), do "mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev" |
| 18:53.51 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: and "mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys" maybe |
| 18:54.05 | Yoshi1 | i didnt seem to need it but i'll do it anyway |
| 18:54.07 | Yoshi1 | just incase |
| 18:54.11 | xp-m | dawud: i don't get the ideea :) |
| 18:54.15 | *** join/#debian Sidze (~Sidze@ks3267440.kimsufi.com) |
| 18:54.27 | jelly-home | mount ought to be able to find the devices then |
| 18:54.45 | Yoshi1 | linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 is already the newest version. |
| 18:54.45 | Yoshi1 | linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 set to manually installed. |
| 18:54.46 | Yoshi1 | ??? |
| 18:55.13 | xp-m | in master.cf i have: policy unix - n n - 0 spawn user=nobody argv=/usr/local/lib/policyd-spf-perl |
| 18:55.24 | dawud | xp-m: you're having trouble using something you (probably) installed from CPAN, I'm only suggesting using the precompiled packages, if they meet your expectations/use case |
| 18:55.29 | *** join/#debian chatsiri_ (~chatsiri_@ppp-115-87-56-106.revip4.asianet.co.th) |
| 18:56.14 | *** join/#debian redeemer (~quassel@77.44.175.51) |
| 18:56.37 | *** join/#debian gauteh (~gaute@cE6835BC1.dhcp.as2116.net) |
| 18:56.47 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: huh, can you pastebin the contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg ? |
| 18:57.14 | jelly-home | that's where grub menu entries are |
| 18:57.18 | *** join/#debian civillian (~nick@174.202.49.122-static.velocitynet.com.au) |
| 18:57.41 | *** join/#debian msantana (msantana@unaffiliated/darkstar) |
| 18:57.52 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, fairly big file is there a pastebin command? |
| 18:58.27 | *** join/#debian Kurogane (~Kurogane@190.86.113.86) |
| 18:58.31 | Yoshi1 | nvm got it open in gedit |
| 18:58.47 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | curl -F "sprunge=<-" http://sprunge.us |
| 18:58.58 | jelly-home | (assuming curl is installed) |
| 18:59.06 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, http://pastebin.com/eLAFuYjc |
| 18:59.14 | *** join/#debian semeion (~semeion@gateway/tor-sasl/semeion) |
| 18:59.19 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1348] by debhelper |
| 18:59.58 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: so... you only have the old 2.6.32 in there, did you remove 3.2 kernel already? |
| 19:00.17 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, no |
| 19:00.18 | *** join/#debian Paul_ (Paul@195.74.255.72.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 19:00.19 | *** join/#debian RainbowW- (~sam@99-107-76-234.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 19:00.20 | *** join/#debian bob_p (~robertpie@c-67-160-200-234.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 19:00.24 | *** join/#debian grim45932 (~grim4593@76-227-189-53.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 19:00.48 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: what does "df" in the chroot say now? |
| 19:00.50 | *** join/#debian aesptux_ (~aesptux@89.141.6.156.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 19:00.56 | *** join/#debian HD|Laptop (~marco@stella.vm-dg.de) |
| 19:00.56 | *** join/#debian HD|Laptop (~marco@wikipedia/harddisk) |
| 19:01.01 | jelly-home | or outside, doesn't matter |
| 19:01.07 | tremon | Yoshi1: have you considered fixing /etc/grub.d/41_custom? |
| 19:01.20 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, http://pastebin.com/hMNnG8rT |
| 19:01.34 | Sidze | hi everyone |
| 19:01.44 | Yoshi1 | tremon, dont even know what that is |
| 19:01.47 | *** join/#debian NeSk` (NeSk@ABayonne-157-1-63-249.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:02.05 | *** join/#debian Azhrarn_ (~Azhrarn@hermis.themis-group.com) |
| 19:02.11 | tremon | Yoshi1: I don't know either, but it's not from debian (fafaik( and it's broken |
| 19:02.20 | *** join/#debian TomyLobo2 (~foo@91-64-160-173-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 19:02.24 | *** join/#debian DarkG[2] (~DarkG@unaffiliated/darkg) |
| 19:02.27 | Sidze | I'm under Debian Sid 3.2.0 and I would like to use ProxMox VE to virtualise Windows OS but I would like to keep 3.2.0 amd 64 kernel, is it possible ? Proxmox run with pve kernel I think... |
| 19:02.34 | *** join/#debian jbb_ (~yeeb@149.219-105-184.rdns.scalabledns.com) |
| 19:02.42 | Yoshi1 | tremon, theres a grand total of 6 lines in there |
| 19:02.44 | *** join/#debian weeb1e_ (~quassel@41.86.98.15) |
| 19:03.03 | *** join/#debian flami_ (~quassel@HSI-KBW-085-216-048-067.hsi.kabelbw.de) |
| 19:03.04 | jelly-home | tremon: I have it as well. |
| 19:03.19 | *** join/#debian amgarching (~amgarchin@p4FD60ADD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:03.26 | tremon | hmm... must be new then |
| 19:03.33 | jelly-home | grub-common: /etc/grub.d/41_custom |
| 19:03.34 | tremon | dpkg -S'es that file |
| 19:03.52 | *** join/#debian jsosby (~jsa@64.120.22.134) |
| 19:03.53 | *** part/#debian ChibaPet (~ChibaPet@fsf/member/chibapet) |
| 19:03.53 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, maybe the kernel install failed somehow? |
| 19:04.07 | tremon | jelly-home: you're right, it is debian-standard |
| 19:04.24 | *** join/#debian wish^^ (dasds@ti0121a340-dhcp0036.bb.online.no) |
| 19:04.26 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: dpkg -l linux-image-\* |grep ^.i |
| 19:04.28 | *** join/#debian blink__ (b20@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-huaupqtkbyccemdg) |
| 19:04.28 | *** join/#debian a_ (~d@64.111.123.163) |
| 19:04.39 | *** join/#debian don_armstrong (~don@hemlock.ucr.edu) |
| 19:04.41 | Yoshi1 | ii linux-image-2.6-amd64 2.6.32+29 Linux 2.6 for 64-bit PCs (meta-package) |
| 19:04.41 | Yoshi1 | ii linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 2.6.32-46 Linux 2.6.32 for 64-bit PCs |
| 19:04.48 | *** join/#debian tharkun_ (~0@187.188.166.5) |
| 19:04.49 | *** join/#debian tharkun_ (~0@unaffiliated/tharkun) |
| 19:04.50 | *** join/#debian khem__ (~x@lotus.redl8.com) |
| 19:04.53 | *** join/#debian cgar_ (~cgar@199.195.250.21) |
| 19:05.01 | *** join/#debian kriskropd (~kris@adsl-98-94-148-176.ard.bellsouth.net) |
| 19:05.03 | *** join/#debian Shadur_ (~shadur@proteus.systemec.nl) |
| 19:05.04 | *** join/#debian maddoc_ (maddoc@cellar.aggr.se) |
| 19:05.07 | jelly-home | yeah, I don't know what you did, but there's no bdo kernel in there |
| 19:05.13 | *** join/#debian scoopex_ (~scoopex@linetics.de) |
| 19:05.14 | jelly-home | which is actually good |
| 19:05.25 | Yoshi1 | why if there isnt one there that could be my problem |
| 19:05.34 | dorp | Mmm... executing dhcpclient-script with bash 4.1.5 seems to work fine. But if I use bash 4.2, I get: "ifconfig: command not found" ... it makes sense? :\ |
| 19:05.34 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: do it again. apt-get -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-amd64 |
| 19:05.55 | Yoshi1 | whoa 116 mb |
| 19:05.59 | Yoshi1 | much bigger then the first time |
| 19:06.55 | Yoshi1 | ok that seems done |
| 19:07.10 | Yoshi1 | but it had trouble greping proc/mounts and /proc/swaps |
| 19:07.22 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: does the grub.cfg now have 2 entries for 3.2 and 2 entries for 2.6.32 ? |
| 19:07.41 | *** join/#debian xxjanuslixx (~leeb@c-98-199-229-83.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 19:07.49 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, oh yeah |
| 19:07.50 | Yoshi1 | :} |
| 19:08.08 | jelly-home | hm |
| 19:08.16 | Yoshi1 | what |
| 19:08.29 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: do (from outside the chroot) mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc |
| 19:08.40 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: and run dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae |
| 19:08.42 | jelly-home | er |
| 19:08.46 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: and run dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.4-amd64 |
| 19:08.48 | *** join/#debian streuner_ (~streuner@mnhm-5f7524bb.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 19:08.50 | Yoshi1 | from in chroot? |
| 19:08.58 | jelly-home | the latter? yes |
| 19:08.59 | *** part/#debian n-iCe (~nice@unaffiliated/nice/x-729832) |
| 19:09.05 | *** join/#debian langkid1_ (~langkid1@langkid1.me) |
| 19:09.05 | jelly-home | just to be on the safe side |
| 19:09.18 | *** join/#debian milobit- (~milobit@barbossa.lugons.org) |
| 19:09.18 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1363] by debhelper |
| 19:09.21 | *** join/#debian johskar_ (~johskar@h.skartland.net) |
| 19:09.25 | *** join/#debian HandheldPenguin` (~dude@lybree.com) |
| 19:09.34 | *** join/#debian shroud_ (gunnar@icinga/team/shroud) |
| 19:09.34 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, that finished |
| 19:09.36 | jelly-home | does it regenerate initramfs image? |
| 19:09.40 | *** join/#debian ryanclancy000 (~Ryan@2604:180::9f2:12b) |
| 19:09.45 | Yoshi1 | where would i look? |
| 19:09.53 | jelly-home | what did the output say?? |
| 19:10.32 | *** join/#debian f_droopy (~f_droopy@46.19.39.39) |
| 19:10.34 | Yoshi1 | i dont see an initramfs in the finial output lines |
| 19:10.42 | Yoshi1 | oh wait |
| 19:10.57 | Yoshi1 | it ran something to do with an initramfs |
| 19:11.04 | Yoshi1 | run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-amd64 /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-0.bpo.4-amd64 |
| 19:11.55 | Yoshi1 | generated a gubr found 2 images couldnt ls the /live/image then found windows 7 and ended |
| 19:12.00 | *** join/#debian necronian (~necronian@irc.uberpurple.com) |
| 19:12.21 | jelly-home | nothing like update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.2.-whatevs? |
| 19:12.42 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home, http://pastebin.com/wrJW2KQ8 heres the end output |
| 19:12.46 | *** join/#debian bitg (~bitg@c-174-52-59-111.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 19:12.59 | jelly-home | it's on line 4. |
| 19:13.01 | jelly-home | ok |
| 19:13.12 | jelly-home | umount everything and reboot |
| 19:13.32 | *** join/#debian IsaacHaze (~opera@g77045.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 19:13.40 | Yoshi1 | ok |
| 19:14.02 | Yoshi1 | brb |
| 19:14.05 | jelly-home | umount /var and /usr from chroot, exit chroot, umount /mnt/{dev,proc,sys}, umount /mnt, and then you may reboot |
| 19:14.46 | *** join/#debian ralkof (~ralkof@c-6e3de155.141-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 19:15.07 | *** join/#debian Knaldgas (~pdj@31.25.22.218) |
| 19:15.22 | *** join/#debian plueschopath (~plueschop@103-222.199-178.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 19:15.23 | *** join/#debian streuner__ (~streuner@mnhm-5f74f5de.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 19:15.27 | *** join/#debian _polto_ (~polto@fsf/member/polto) |
| 19:15.29 | *** join/#debian nim__ (~nim@46.246.137.188.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 19:15.33 | *** join/#debian talsamon_ (~talsamon@93-82-84-197.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 19:16.06 | *** join/#debian Ranzpirat (ranzpirat@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-kheyjtasyohfnzsv) |
| 19:16.11 | *** join/#debian Jdbye (~jdbye@ti0010a380-dhcp1283.bb.online.no) |
| 19:16.12 | hacs | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:16.42 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@199.47.52.87) |
| 19:16.43 | *** join/#debian jasonwert (~w3rt@96-42-148-132.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) |
| 19:16.53 | *** join/#debian Yoshi1 (~yoshi@dsl-173-206-30-35.tor.primus.ca) |
| 19:17.01 | jelly-home | hacs: if it's a SATA device, you ought to be able to spin it down and back up in software, yes |
| 19:17.10 | *** join/#debian CutMeOwnThroat (~boo@unaffiliated/iridos) |
| 19:17.10 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: well that worked even sending a signal to my second monitor |
| 19:17.16 | *** join/#debian b1rkh0ff (~b1rkh0ff@178.77.6.46) |
| 19:17.46 | hacs | jelly-home: yes, it is a SATA device. How can I control the flow of energy to it? |
| 19:17.46 | neoice | so I set up a LUKS crypted partiton (sda5) and on that is an LVM vg with my root partition. during the installation, the CD was unable to install grub2, but I manually chroot'd in and did it after the fact. now, I can't grub2 to figure out to decrypt and boot off the LVM. anyone have any guides or know what random grub options need set? |
| 19:17.56 | jelly-home | hacs: which device is it? |
| 19:17.57 | Yoshi1 | well was anyway |
| 19:18.03 | jelly-home | hacs: /dev/sdb? |
| 19:18.09 | *** join/#debian Iiiak (~Iiiak@AMontpellier-551-1-176-179.w109-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:18.13 | hacs | jelly-home: yes |
| 19:18.20 | *** join/#debian APexiI (~you@174-29-128-186.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 19:18.26 | *** join/#debian n1x (~n1x@unaffiliated/n1xnc0d3) |
| 19:18.39 | Yoshi1 | and speakers!! |
| 19:18.44 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.212.120.45) |
| 19:19.18 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1370] by debhelper |
| 19:19.19 | jelly-home | hacs: first umount (and swapoff and vgchange -an ...) every partition on it, the use "echo 1 > /sys/block/sdb/device/delete" to spin it down and let the kernel clean up its records |
| 19:19.30 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: yeah, that's alsa for you |
| 19:19.46 | jelly-home | always need a newer kernel |
| 19:19.54 | hacs | jelly-home: How do I prevent the spinup at boot? |
| 19:20.09 | *** join/#debian f8l (~f8l@178-37-160-115.adsl.inetia.pl) |
| 19:20.35 | Yoshi1 | hmmm still have this where it isnt detecting my network properly even though i am obviously online |
| 19:20.36 | jelly-home | hacs: no idea, to be honest; there might be an ata related boot parameter not to scan a specific ata bus |
| 19:21.00 | nmeum | I just installed the virtualbox-ose metapackage on my debian wheezy but during the installation process I get the error "[FAIL] Starting VirtualBox kernel modules[....] No suitable module for running kernel found ... failed!" How do I fix this? |
| 19:21.13 | *** join/#debian Whiskey (Whiskey@h163n7-j-a32.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 19:22.30 | pmo | nmeum: you need to figure out what kernel modules you need and load it |
| 19:22.36 | jelly-home | hacs: to bring it back up, you'd have to scan the scsi-like bus, either figure out from dmesg which bus is it, or let the kernel rescan them all: echo 0 0 0 | tee /sys/class/scsi_host/host*/scan |
| 19:23.28 | *** join/#debian tester12341234 (b28e5b1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.142.91.28) |
| 19:23.29 | pmo | i personally dont know wich modules that is, but check their forum nmeum |
| 19:23.30 | jelly-home | hacs: rescanning ata bus might be harmful for current I/O, so try doing that when the other disk is idle |
| 19:23.33 | *** join/#debian frostschutz (~frostschu@p4FFF7523.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:24.30 | hacs | jelly-home: thanks |
| 19:24.51 | nmeum | pmo: will do so - thanks |
| 19:24.56 | *** join/#debian arshavin (~arshavin@49.136.98.22) |
| 19:25.03 | n0body | so, is that true that wheezy will be stable next week? |
| 19:25.31 | *** join/#debian junaidnaseer (~junaid@f052133097.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 19:25.37 | jelly-home | n0body: huh... where did you read that |
| 19:25.46 | zykotic10 | n0body: nobody can "know" for sure. but i highly doubt it given the RC bug count. |
| 19:25.50 | jelly-home | !rc bugs |
| 19:25.51 | dpkg | Release-Critical bugs are Debian bugs with critical, grave or serious severities, preventing the next release of Debian. See the graph at http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ or the lists at http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/other/all.html http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?release=squeeze&patch=ign&pending=ign&merged=ign&done=ign&rc=1 . See also <rc-alert>. |
| 19:26.02 | hramrach | wheezy is stable already ;-) |
| 19:26.04 | hramrach | just not finished |
| 19:26.36 | jelly-home | and has no security support |
| 19:26.38 | *** join/#debian Indexx (~Indexx@dyn-70-33-197-184.hsnet.ca) |
| 19:26.51 | jelly-home | and 257 more RC bugs to go! |
| 19:26.56 | pmo | nmeum: i found a site that tells me you install it with by installing the linux hearders first |
| 19:27.02 | n0body | nice, i will try to install the weekly build |
| 19:27.14 | *** join/#debian monaco (~monaco@84.22.47.154) |
| 19:27.14 | *** join/#debian monaco (~monaco@fedora/KiNG) |
| 19:27.43 | pmo | nmeum: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') |
| 19:27.55 | pmo | then install virtualbox-ose |
| 19:28.55 | n0body | jus tried to install wheezy yesterday, but got a problem when setup tried to install grub, im installing it on a asus n56vz, that supports only efi, and im using gpt |
| 19:29.20 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1337] by debhelper |
| 19:29.28 | Arrowmaster | n0body: whats the issue |
| 19:30.07 | n0body | grub fails to install, all the setup works until it tries to install grub |
| 19:30.24 | pmo | n0body: i have the same laptop |
| 19:30.34 | pmo | you dont have to use uefi |
| 19:30.46 | *** join/#debian ottermaton (~mark@c-174-54-168-113.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 19:30.48 | pmo | the issue is that windows is preinstalled as uefi on it |
| 19:30.51 | Arrowmaster | how did you partition the drive? does it have a partition for the uefi stuff? |
| 19:31.00 | *** part/#debian log0ut (~meh@aetk51.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 19:31.12 | pmo | if you remove windows and dont install it as uefi then you can install everything else without uefi |
| 19:31.13 | n0body | yes it have the uefi partition, im going to retry now |
| 19:31.28 | n0body | and thanks pmo, i will try without uefi |
| 19:31.32 | pmo | reinstall windows without uefi and it will work |
| 19:31.39 | pmo | i was messing with the same issue |
| 19:31.44 | pmo | i could install but not boot up |
| 19:32.00 | nmeum | pmo: yep that works - thanks again |
| 19:32.05 | pmo | np |
| 19:32.10 | Arrowmaster | and secure boot is disabled right? |
| 19:32.13 | pmo | :) |
| 19:32.26 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@16-74-245-190.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 19:32.42 | pmo | windows8 machines are horible :( |
| 19:33.25 | *** join/#debian Colt (~noreply@96.241.64.28) |
| 19:33.31 | *** join/#debian Yoshi1 (~yoshi@dsl-173-206-30-35.tor.primus.ca) |
| 19:33.39 | *** join/#debian Innocentus (~chatzilla@ltea-047-064-055-239.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 19:36.54 | *** join/#debian Someguy1234 (~someguy@unaffiliated/compgenius999) |
| 19:38.23 | *** join/#debian pAt__ (~pAt@p508FF114.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:39.01 | *** join/#debian PryMar56 (~prymar@cpe-72-130-32-164.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 19:40.51 | *** join/#debian iCarly (~thomas@p4FC2D37D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:40.53 | cardamon | Hmm...nvidia or nouveau? |
| 19:41.07 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~ulises11@213.37.174.70.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 19:41.41 | *** join/#debian floe_ (~flo@e179018208.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 19:42.37 | dawud | Has anybody ever tried to use the pacct module in syslog-ng? it builds right, but doesn't seem to output anything other that timestamps. :/ |
| 19:42.45 | *** join/#debian tx0h_ (~tx@e179034058.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 19:43.24 | *** join/#debian xomrk (~bolo@77.87.0.1) |
| 19:43.41 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 19:44.51 | *** join/#debian Mangolian (~Wewt|Mang@193.105.7.54) |
| 19:44.57 | *** join/#debian xomrk (~bolo@77.87.0.1) |
| 19:45.44 | *** join/#debian xkaliber (~xkaliber@unaffiliated/xkaliber) |
| 19:48.09 | Aim_Here | Hmmmm. An aptitude upgrade died and left my system (sid) thoroughly borked. It seems to be that nothing can find libraries in /lib or /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu. The /etc/ldd.so.conf stuff looks okay to me. Any ideas? |
| 19:49.06 | *** join/#debian Guest91051 (~sconde@62.83.47.190.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 19:49.12 | ompaul | Aim_Here: that just looks wrong, not had that happen here, so eh, can you paste in http://paste.debian.net the sources list and the error message from apt-get update thanks |
| 19:49.13 | *** join/#debian TriJetScud (~TriJetScu@2001:470:e97f:1003:215:5dff:fe07:4806) |
| 19:49.19 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1329] by debhelper |
| 19:49.34 | *** join/#debian DeltaHeavy_ (~DeltaHeav@d24-204-219-104.home4.cgocable.net) |
| 19:49.59 | *** join/#debian Apeiron` (~Apeiron@209.105.170.99) |
| 19:50.14 | Aim_Here | The error is long ago lost to the mist of time. It died after libc6 was upgraded |
| 19:50.21 | *** part/#debian qwerty3 (~qwerty@cbza.pl) |
| 19:51.04 | Aim_Here | I'm currently poking at it with a Debian install disk since neither of my two Knoppix disks work properlg |
| 19:51.09 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@78.181.118.75) |
| 19:51.10 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 19:51.27 | Aim_Here | Closest thing to a browser I have is wget |
| 19:52.47 | *** join/#debian mamr (~mamr@dslb-178-005-070-180.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 19:53.04 | *** join/#debian tidux (jon@198.24.156.67) |
| 19:53.52 | *** join/#debian yeehi1 (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 19:54.09 | Aim_Here | There is the experimental report in sources list and debian multimedia. That probably invalidates my warranty |
| 19:54.19 | *** join/#debian maotm (~kvirc@maotm.broker.freenet6.net) |
| 19:54.25 | tidux | where on the website do I find the Debian policies? |
| 19:54.28 | mamr | hi, I'm new to debian and at some point want to switch to it from ubuntu. for testing i installed it within. now it seems that i don't have a network connection although the lxde network manager applet says i am connected |
| 19:54.40 | mamr | i googled but didn't find anything |
| 19:54.44 | *** join/#debian maotm (~kvirc@maotm.broker.freenet6.net) |
| 19:54.51 | tremon | tidux: debian.org, developer's corner |
| 19:54.52 | jelly-home | Aim_Here: does /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 exist and can you run it? |
| 19:55.00 | tidux | tremon: thanks |
| 19:55.20 | *** join/#debian smj (~janne@212-226-64-203-nat.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 19:55.50 | tidux | short version of what I found: firmware-brcm80211 isn't a dependency of firmware-linux-nonfree so I spent 12 hours trying to get my wifi working with a 3.7.2 kernel |
| 19:55.57 | tidux | until I found the package |
| 19:56.31 | jelly-home | Aim_Here: do you remember which kernel was running at the time? |
| 19:56.55 | Aim_Here | jelly-home :yes, I get a Usage spiel. It is a symljnk thouh |
| 19:57.12 | tidux | thanks for the help, guys |
| 19:57.22 | Aim_Here | 3.2.0.4 |
| 19:57.27 | tidux | Debian consistently has the most useful non-aggressive IRC channels |
| 19:57.28 | *** part/#debian tidux (jon@198.24.156.67) |
| 19:57.32 | *** join/#debian mysteriousdarren (~darren@pdpc/supporter/student/mysteriousdarren) |
| 19:57.59 | abrotman | we do not damn it! |
| 19:58.02 | jelly-home | Aim_Here: good. try /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 next |
| 19:58.23 | Aim_Here | amd64. I multi arch with x86 and was upgrading with aptitude if that helps |
| 19:58.44 | jelly-home | Aim_Here: in fact, try chroot /target /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (substiturte /target with the actual mountpoint) |
| 19:59.17 | jelly-home | if debian has nonaggressive channels, I fear for the rest |
| 19:59.47 | n0body | try to ask something at the ubuntu forums :D |
| 20:00.01 | *** join/#debian n1x (~n1x@unaffiliated/n1xnc0d3) |
| 20:00.15 | jelly-home | I have ubuntforums.org blocked in google search results :-| |
| 20:01.28 | Aim_Here | It runs and gives me a spiel when chrooted. Fails when not chrooted |
| 20:01.30 | *** join/#debian Zyferus (zyferus@c-24-2-8-110.hsd1.mo.comcast.net) |
| 20:01.37 | *** join/#debian CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@188-180-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) |
| 20:01.57 | jelly-home | huh |
| 20:02.08 | jelly-home | but chroot /target /bin/ls fails ? |
| 20:02.43 | *** join/#debian Speed` (~Speed@5ac89fb3.bb.sky.com) |
| 20:02.57 | jelly-home | good heavens, ls links against so many libraries these days |
| 20:03.10 | *** join/#debian simone (~simone@host113-137-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 20:03.14 | Aim_Here | Yeah can't find LIBSELINUX.so.1 |
| 20:03.28 | smj | if there would ever be a bugfix release to KDE; like KDE 4.4.6, would squeeze get it? |
| 20:03.37 | *** join/#debian CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@188-180-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) |
| 20:03.56 | Aim_Here | Aha permission denied |
| 20:03.58 | *** join/#debian crash_ (~crash_@c-07dee655.02-106-626f721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 20:04.07 | jelly-home | smj: negative, only security fixes and critical bugs |
| 20:04.12 | Aim_Here | When I try to run selinux |
| 20:04.37 | jelly-home | Aim_Here: what about chroot ... /bin/echo it works |
| 20:04.41 | *** join/#debian musca (musca@tyrael.eu) |
| 20:05.01 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 20:05.15 | *** join/#debian tommy_e (~tommy@5.103.129.67) |
| 20:05.54 | jelly-home | judd: file etc/selinux/config |
| 20:05.58 | judd | No packages in squeeze/i386 were found with that file. |
| 20:06.00 | Aim_Here | Yeah echo works |
| 20:06.05 | jelly-home | judd: file etc/selinux/config --release sid |
| 20:06.10 | judd | No packages in sid/i386 were found with that file. |
| 20:06.10 | Aim_Here | As in the binfile |
| 20:06.24 | jelly-home | righto, so libc6 is fine |
| 20:06.58 | jelly-home | which means you should be able to, say chroot ... /bin/dash |
| 20:07.48 | koshie | I want to install ia32libs for a game but when I'm trying it says it depend of ia32-libs-i386 package but it can't be installed |
| 20:07.55 | koshie | An idea? |
| 20:07.57 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 20:08.02 | jelly-home | Alam_Squeeze: is that /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libselinux.so.1 actually missing? |
| 20:08.10 | Aim_Here | Yes, I can run dash |
| 20:08.15 | koshie | I'm on wheezy |
| 20:08.23 | Aim_Here | I no the files are hthere |
| 20:08.47 | jelly-home | Aim_Here: echo /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/*selin* in that dash |
| 20:08.53 | Aim_Here | Sorry, tablet keyboard! The files are there |
| 20:09.00 | *** join/#debian Tramp (~mt@80-218-180-252.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 20:09.07 | tremon | Aim_Here: please run ldd /usr/bin/dpkg and see which libraries are missing |
| 20:09.17 | tremon | koshie: dpkg --add-architecture i386 |
| 20:09.20 | jelly-home | tremon: ldd is a /bin/bash script |
| 20:09.31 | koshie | tremon: thanks |
| 20:09.51 | tremon | jelly-home: really? bah... |
| 20:09.55 | Aim_Here | The echo gives me the full chrooted path to libseljnhx |
| 20:10.00 | *** join/#debian gusto (~gusto@bband-dyn152.95-103-228.t-com.sk) |
| 20:10.15 | Aim_Here | Ldd fails because of no libtinfo |
| 20:10.19 | jelly-home | Aim_Here: that's fine, but is the libselinux.so.1 symlink in place? |
| 20:10.28 | jelly-home | sounds like you need a ldconfig run |
| 20:10.45 | koshie | tremon: now it says there is no version in unvailable but it's present in the database. This package is in classical repo? |
| 20:11.02 | koshie | it seems to be a virtual package too. |
| 20:11.03 | tremon | jelly-home: seems to work fine when run as sh /usr/bin/ldd though :) |
| 20:11.09 | koshie | (I've see that with apt-cache show) |
| 20:11.26 | tremon | koshie: see http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch . did you apt-get update after the dpkg add-architecture? |
| 20:11.30 | jelly-home | Aim_Here: /sbin/ldconfig, see if it helps with ls or bash |
| 20:11.37 | Aim_Here | No symljnk, LIBSELINUX so. Q is a file |
| 20:11.40 | koshie | tremon: oh no, sorry, next time i'll read man for the option |
| 20:11.50 | *** join/#debian testuser (~testuser@78-86-232-26.dsl.cnl.uk.net) |
| 20:11.50 | jelly-home | Q! :-D |
| 20:12.04 | jelly-home | oh, so it is |
| 20:12.04 | koshie | it works tremon ;-) |
| 20:12.05 | koshie | thanks. |
| 20:12.56 | Aim_Here | Aha ldconfig works |
| 20:12.57 | *** join/#debian _polto_ (~polto@232-136.77-83.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 20:12.57 | *** join/#debian _polto_ (~polto@fsf/member/polto) |
| 20:13.00 | *** join/#debian ggherdov (~gghh@vau06-2-82-238-188-31.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 20:13.29 | jelly-home | sure, but does it fix anything |
| 20:13.36 | Aim_Here | Now the thing is, will that stay fixed after a reboot? |
| 20:13.50 | jelly-home | it ought to, now the cache is populated correctly |
| 20:13.51 | Aim_Here | Seems fixed |
| 20:14.22 | Aim_Here | Fixed enough to not kernel panic like last time? |
| 20:14.31 | jelly-home | now you can dpkg --configure -a |
| 20:14.47 | jelly-home | Aim_Here: panic? How old a kernel were you using |
| 20:14.53 | Aim_Here | Yeah dpkg was the first thing I tested |
| 20:14.58 | *** join/#debian redeemer (~quassel@77.44.175.51) |
| 20:15.03 | Aim_Here | 3.2.0.4 |
| 20:15.12 | Aim_Here | I told you |
| 20:15.21 | jelly-home | it's 9pm here! |
| 20:15.34 | abrotman | Aim_Here: you mean 3.2.0-4 ? |
| 20:15.36 | *** join/#debian dequeued (~dequeued@96.239.68.212) |
| 20:15.42 | jelly-home | I need my beauty sleep |
| 20:16.09 | jelly-home | whatevet made your kernel panic might still happen |
| 20:16.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | lest your beauty wilts? |
| 20:16.44 | Aim_Here | Well it's avoided the panic and is now fscking |
| 20:17.25 | Aim_Here | (surprised this tablet didn't auto correct that to fucking) |
| 20:17.34 | *** join/#debian _Rocky_ (~user@122.164.227.219) |
| 20:18.06 | *** join/#debian ellic (~ellic@66-90-198-31.dyn.grandenetworks.net) |
| 20:18.19 | *** join/#debian dequeued (~dequeued@96.239.68.212) |
| 20:18.36 | _Rocky_ | is it possible to change tty font to "DejaVu sans" or anything other than "Fixed", "Terminus" or "VGA" using dpkg-reconfigure console-setup |
| 20:18.39 | Aim_Here | Also, thanks a lot for your help, jelly-home |
| 20:18.41 | *** join/#debian m4ggus (~marcus@unaffiliated/m4ggus) |
| 20:18.48 | jelly-home | cheers |
| 20:19.33 | _Rocky_ | Thanks for your help in advance |
| 20:19.48 | *** join/#debian marvinstuart (~marvinstu@cpe-184-57-132-151.cinci.res.rr.com) |
| 20:20.43 | jelly-home | _Rocky_: I don't think there is a prebuilt console bitmap DejaVu Sans or DejaVu Sans Mono in debian |
| 20:21.00 | hacs | Is the Aaron Swartz who has been killed by intelligence agencies these days the one who is also a debian developer? |
| 20:21.04 | hacs | http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/01/13/283254/us-kill-list-critic-found-dead-in-ny/ |
| 20:22.03 | jelly-home | hacs: I disagree with the implications of your question. |
| 20:22.24 | ompaul | hacs: one of which is that your question is ontopic |
| 20:22.26 | *** join/#debian _Rocky_ (~user@122.164.227.219) |
| 20:22.30 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 20:22.31 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@174.32.161.34) |
| 20:23.43 | *** join/#debian AimHere (~bod@host86-165-192-2.range86-165.btcentralplus.com) |
| 20:23.50 | *** join/#debian Nurbs (~nurbs@essn-5d83ab9c.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 20:23.52 | hacs | ompaul: `one of which...' one of what? |
| 20:23.54 | *** join/#debian kkuno (~eee@88-149-169-154.v4.ngi.it) |
| 20:23.56 | kkuno | hi |
| 20:24.05 | kkuno | I have mysql installed |
| 20:24.16 | kkuno | I have accidentally deleted /etc/mysql |
| 20:24.27 | hacs | kkuno: what filesystem? |
| 20:24.30 | *** join/#debian streuner__ (~streuner@mnhm-590e48a3.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 20:24.30 | kkuno | now it keeps me saying debian.cnf is missing |
| 20:24.37 | *** join/#debian archetech (~noota2@108-203-131-124.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 20:24.56 | tremon | kkuno: sounds like a job for... backuprestoreman! |
| 20:24.57 | ompaul | hacs: the implications of which jelly-home spoke - i.e. not only is your implication wrong but you are offtopic |
| 20:25.00 | abrotman | !tell kkuno about confnew |
| 20:25.10 | kkuno | ext4 |
| 20:25.14 | *** join/#debian n00b_dust (~n00b_dust@182.237.139.243) |
| 20:25.21 | abrotman | kkuno: see what the bot told you |
| 20:25.41 | *** join/#debian nim_ (~nim@46.246.176.80.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 20:25.49 | *** join/#debian serjs (~serjs@79.164.65.242) |
| 20:25.53 | *** join/#debian Yoshi1 (~yoshi@dsl-173-206-30-35.tor.primus.ca) |
| 20:26.12 | Yoshi1 | heheh crazy i thought i had really messed up heh trying to install nvidia drivers |
| 20:26.16 | hacs | jelly-home, ompaul: how do you know that he really hanged himself? Isn't that rather reminding of Boris Floriric aka Tron ? |
| 20:26.32 | Yoshi1 | is anyone able to tell me how to install nvidia drivers for a 540M? |
| 20:26.35 | *** mode/#debian [+q *!*@130.83.142.74] by ChanServ |
| 20:26.40 | abrotman | Yoshi1: read the wiki |
| 20:26.54 | Yoshi1 | abrotman: got a link to said wiki? |
| 20:27.05 | abrotman | Yoshi1: /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 20:27.12 | tremon | hacs: take it outside, please (or #defocus) |
| 20:27.15 | *** join/#debian Armand (~martin@cpc17-haye16-2-0-cust427.haye.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 20:27.17 | Yoshi1 | thanks |
| 20:27.19 | *** join/#debian Aim_Here (~bod@host86-165-192-2.range86-165.btcentralplus.com) |
| 20:27.37 | *** join/#debian nullby7e (~null@unaffiliated/nullby7e) |
| 20:28.07 | Yoshi1 | oh this wiki i cant get the nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel installed on it to even begin |
| 20:28.17 | abrotman | engrish |
| 20:29.03 | Yoshi1 | that was english basically i've tried following that wiki and i just spent at least 10 if not 20 minutes getting back on |
| 20:29.08 | kkuno | well |
| 20:29.10 | kkuno | if I try |
| 20:29.12 | kkuno | apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" --reinstall install mysql-server |
| 20:29.16 | *** join/#debian allblack (~allblack@harrenhal.allblack.be) |
| 20:29.19 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1335] by debhelper |
| 20:29.21 | abrotman | kkuno: that's probably not the right package name |
| 20:29.23 | kkuno | I get E: Internal Error, No file name for mysql-server:armhf |
| 20:29.40 | *** join/#debian mendred (~mendred@host81-129-178-82.range81-129.btcentralplus.com) |
| 20:29.50 | kkuno | mmh yeah |
| 20:29.56 | abrotman | kkuno: apt-cache show mysql-server .. see what it depends on |
| 20:29.57 | abrotman | or .. |
| 20:30.01 | abrotman | dpkg: tell kkuno about apt-file |
| 20:30.13 | abrotman | use that to find out which package thinks it owns that file |
| 20:30.57 | themill | probably find that no package owns the file but that it's created by a maintainer script |
| 20:31.36 | themill | (mysql-server-5.5 postinst) |
| 20:31.50 | abrotman | another reason not to use mysql! Hrmph! |
| 20:32.34 | jelly-home | borks abrotman's pgsql package and cluster upgrade with a disk space issue |
| 20:32.35 | *** join/#debian mns (~mns@c-24-63-48-219.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 20:33.08 | abrotman | jelly-home: that could be any package, to be fair :) |
| 20:33.35 | *** join/#debian bambuss (~Miranda@gw.kopnet.cz) |
| 20:33.43 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 20:34.05 | *** join/#debian cafaro (~tman@37-251-16-95.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl) |
| 20:34.05 | *** join/#debian cafaro (~tman@unaffiliated/cafaro) |
| 20:34.21 | *** join/#debian TheGrey (~TheGrey__@b0fc2b4b.bb.sky.com) |
| 20:34.35 | *** join/#debian mendred (~mendred@host81-129-178-82.range81-129.btcentralplus.com) |
| 20:34.45 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: you want to install nvidia drivers? the wiki page is a mess. Try this: /msg dpkg nvidia dkms |
| 20:35.38 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: you'll want to "apt-get -t squeeze-backports install linux-headers-$(uname -r) " to match your current kernel |
| 20:36.07 | Yoshi1 | thanks |
| 20:36.30 | Yoshi1 | i have got to learn to use regex one of these days |
| 20:37.04 | dawud | Yoshi1: that's not regex, it's command substitution |
| 20:37.07 | *** join/#debian metap0d (~quassel@184.175.29.13) |
| 20:37.11 | Yoshi1 | ok and that too |
| 20:37.23 | dawud | Yoshi1: it's in bash's man page (a must read) |
| 20:37.27 | Yoshi1 | so what do i do after that the bots kind of terse and hard to understand here |
| 20:37.40 | abrotman | jelly-home: you're a bot! |
| 20:37.51 | nmeum | so...I tried to setup my first 'virtual machine' with virtual box but when I try to start it I get the error 'Vt-x is not available' how do I fix this? |
| 20:38.02 | ompaul | abrotman: who'd a thunk |
| 20:38.09 | dawud | nmeum: in your BIOS |
| 20:38.12 | tremon | nmeum: get a new processor |
| 20:38.21 | nmeum | :3 |
| 20:38.29 | nmeum | dawud: what should I change? |
| 20:38.47 | jelly-home | abrotman: I'm a real boy! |
| 20:38.52 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: can i get that bots post translated into english? |
| 20:38.54 | dawud | nmeum: maybe it is just disabled (if available) in your BIOS |
| 20:39.30 | dawud | nmeum: if not available, then follow tremon's advice :) |
| 20:39.31 | nmeum | dawud: what? what is maybe disabled? what is the name of the option? |
| 20:39.42 | *** join/#debian atomfire (~atomfire@7.sub-70-199-233.myvzw.com) |
| 20:39.51 | *** join/#debian Xc0re (~c0re@unaffiliated/xc0re) |
| 20:39.59 | *** join/#debian blubberdiblub (~foobar@blubberdiblub.org) |
| 20:40.02 | nmeum | years ago when I still used windows it was possible to use virtual box :p |
| 20:40.04 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: you'd read every word carefully first. Then do "/msg dpkg non-free sources", adjust the configuration, then do the whole super-long command from the nvidia dkms factoid |
| 20:40.06 | nmeum | on this pc |
| 20:40.06 | *** join/#debian aahmedak (~chatzilla@234.Red-193-153-77.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 20:40.16 | dawud | nmeum: you have an Intel processor that may/may not have vt-x extensions (I think you ca check in the output of cat /proc/cpuinfo) |
| 20:40.23 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@212-149-192-161.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 20:40.28 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: this is all a single command line: «aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf |
| 20:40.36 | abrotman | which may not show it if the BIOS disables it |
| 20:40.41 | Yoshi1 | yeah i got the one long command |
| 20:40.44 | nmeum | dawud: what should I grep for? |
| 20:40.52 | Yoshi1 | but i recon theres things to do before that |
| 20:40.58 | Yoshi1 | and thats where i'm having issues |
| 20:41.26 | *** join/#debian marvinstuart (~marvinstu@cpe-184-57-132-151.cinci.res.rr.com) |
| 20:41.57 | *** part/#debian xp-m (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/x-p-m) |
| 20:42.19 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: did you read and follow the "non-free sources" instructions first? |
| 20:42.22 | dawud | nmeum: vmx |
| 20:42.54 | nmeum | dawud: no output ;_; |
| 20:43.06 | abrotman | nmeum: the bios may not allow that flag to appear .. |
| 20:43.23 | nmeum | abrotman: hm |
| 20:43.24 | abrotman | nmeum: you might want to ask ##hardware instead |
| 20:43.28 | dawud | nmeum: it might be because it is disabled in the BIOS (like abrotman said), or because it's not available |
| 20:43.38 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: yeah and theres actually a few lines that end in non free sources but no changes when i do an apt-get update |
| 20:43.41 | abrotman | or he could ask ##hardware |
| 20:44.02 | nmeum | dawud, abrotman: so how do I enable this in the bios (just incase it is available) |
| 20:44.13 | abrotman | nmeum: ##hardware .. thanks |
| 20:44.19 | *** join/#debian redeemer_ (~quassel@77.44.175.51) |
| 20:44.26 | nmeum | abrotman: okay sir |
| 20:44.57 | kkuno | I'm getting nervous :| |
| 20:45.00 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: let's see your current sources.list, then |
| 20:45.13 | kkuno | I can't remove packages because there are problems |
| 20:45.16 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe (~havoc@89.146.182.61) |
| 20:45.17 | abrotman | kkuno: pastebin |
| 20:45.17 | kkuno | I can't reinstall them |
| 20:46.09 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/TmLEFy5u |
| 20:46.11 | *** join/#debian streuner__ (~streuner@mnhm-4d01904e.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 20:46.42 | *** part/#debian Nanuq (~nanuq@tlalocan.teotlalli.ecks.ca) |
| 20:46.45 | metap0d | Hey everyone, I'm a Linux Beginner trying to install the Debian 6.0.6 net ISO. WHen I reach the point where it asks me to choose a package host/repo, no matter which I mirror select the installer claims it's invalid. Any ideas? |
| 20:46.58 | metap0d | I'm trying to do this with VirtualBox and a bridged wireless adapter |
| 20:47.10 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: good. add " contrib non-free" to line 16 as well |
| 20:47.34 | Yoshi1 | on backports? |
| 20:47.51 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: yes, that way you'll be able to fetch nvidia driver from backports as well |
| 20:48.02 | Yoshi1 | done |
| 20:48.03 | tremon | Yoshi1: you may want to comment the second cdrom line too |
| 20:48.07 | jelly-home | that version is likely needed to match the kernel |
| 20:48.20 | *** join/#debian sharky2 (~sharky@p57931612.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:48.25 | Yoshi1 | makes sense since i dont actually have a cd |
| 20:48.40 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: comment out line 5 then |
| 20:48.48 | maxxe | if i boot into recovery mode, can i umount for example /? and then fsck it? |
| 20:48.49 | Yoshi1 | done |
| 20:49.01 | *** join/#debian vipersniper (~viper@S0106002129c36a75.no.shawcable.net) |
| 20:49.27 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: after an update, you can try aptitude -t squeeze-backports -r install linux-headers-`uname -r` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf |
| 20:49.36 | *** join/#debian Theoden (~quassel@c-98-234-161-226.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 20:49.45 | Yoshi1 | maxxe: not an expert myself but from what i have seen in using recovery mode your actually on your system so umounting / wouldnt be possible |
| 20:50.01 | tremon | maxxe: if you umount / (even if it were possible), how would you be able to start fsck? |
| 20:50.09 | kkuno | abrotman, http://pastebin.com/P4afPXHV |
| 20:50.09 | maxxe | true :) |
| 20:50.15 | maxxe | i must use a cd |
| 20:50.24 | kkuno | I can't remove, reinstall, I'm stuck :| |
| 20:50.48 | vipersniper | I'm having troubles with "update-grub" running a grsec kernel debian 6.0 I have disabled the pax flags but no go |
| 20:51.00 | abrotman | kkuno: man dpkg |
| 20:51.08 | abrotman | kkuno: there's an option to force the reinstall |
| 20:51.15 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: looks like it is working |
| 20:51.16 | tremon | maxxe: iirc there was a way to force an fsck of / at boot, can't find it right now |
| 20:51.29 | dawud | tremon: tune2fs ? |
| 20:51.37 | maxxe | tremon: yeah shutdown -rF now |
| 20:51.37 | vipersniper | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:51.48 | Yoshi1 | maxxe: just use the live cd unetbootin'd onto a usb stick thats what i did |
| 20:51.49 | *** join/#debian Bulma (~bulma@ool-4572e464.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 20:51.59 | maxxe | tremon: actually i am going to go ext3->ext4 :) it needs to be umounted first |
| 20:52.00 | abrotman | or touch /forcefsck |
| 20:52.26 | tremon | abrotman: yeah, that was what I was looking for, thx |
| 20:52.36 | ompaul | vipersniper: that's not for here you need to ask ##grsecurity |
| 20:52.37 | maxxe | Yoshi1: yeah |
| 20:52.46 | vipersniper | ok, thanks |
| 20:53.20 | tremon | maxxe: you need a livecd for that, simple fsck run may work in read-only mode (not recommended though), but ext3->ext4 requires that the fs isn't mounted at all |
| 20:53.20 | *** join/#debian Losowski (~Galicja@80.50.231.58) |
| 20:53.32 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@mna75-11-88-161-199-178.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 20:53.44 | maxxe | tremon: yeah |
| 20:53.56 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/ZexLTEpj the depmod |
| 20:54.31 | Yoshi1 | the problem at the end may be because theres already such a directory |
| 20:55.39 | *** join/#debian tom_____1 (~tom@93.186.149.186) |
| 20:55.58 | *** join/#debian Leconite (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/leconite) |
| 20:56.15 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: any chance i can snip the command up tom the echo and run it from there to complete the process? |
| 20:59.44 | vipersniper | noone alive in the #gresecurity channel :) |
| 21:00.21 | dawud | vipersniper: typo? #grsecurity |
| 21:00.24 | *** join/#debian magnet_tm (~magnet_tm@79.114.79.87) |
| 21:00.26 | *** join/#debian bharrison (~bharrison@mta.backbone-tech.com) |
| 21:00.32 | *** part/#debian gour (~gour@unaffiliated/gour) |
| 21:01.13 | vipersniper | dawud, yeah its a typo |
| 21:01.21 | vipersniper | im in the right channel |
| 21:01.32 | *** join/#debian swex (~quassel@178.17.206.140) |
| 21:02.36 | abrotman | vipersniper: empty channel or dead channel? |
| 21:03.31 | n0body | just download and burned the image of wheezy again, and again the same error, with uefi disabled, impossible to install grub |
| 21:03.54 | vipersniper | abramart, there's life, but noone chatting |
| 21:04.03 | vipersniper | might be all sleeping :) |
| 21:04.04 | abrotman | ... |
| 21:04.12 | *** join/#debian dragon1972 (~dragon@koe67-1-82-227-54-131.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:04.18 | abrotman | vipersniper: so be patient .. try waiting more than 10 minutes |
| 21:04.26 | n0body | got always this error when trying to install on asus n56vz, bios efi only and gpt partition table on disc |
| 21:04.38 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/ZexLTEpj the depmod |
| 21:04.42 | vipersniper | abrotman, I know :) |
| 21:05.01 | ryan-c | I'n getting 'NO_PUBKEY AED4B06F473041FA' using multistrap with emdebian + sid - how can install the proper key in the chroot? |
| 21:05.04 | Theoden | apt-get just told me that I have certain pkgs installed that are no longer required and to use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. Is this safe to do? |
| 21:05.58 | vipersniper | surely someone here had a grsec kernel at some-piont and need to reboot into another kernel version and had this issue with grub :) |
| 21:05.58 | abrotman | Theoden: didn't it give you a list of packages? |
| 21:06.07 | Theoden | abrotman: Yes it did. |
| 21:06.33 | Theoden | abrotman: libdirac-decoder0 libdns81 libisc83 libwine-gecko-1.4 libxcb-xfixes0 |
| 21:06.33 | abrotman | do oyu use any of those? |
| 21:06.33 | Theoden | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.48 | abrotman | Theoden: doesn't seem too awful .. just save the list in a file |
| 21:06.56 | *** join/#debian Kondor (~root@pool-108-22-245-108.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) |
| 21:06.59 | *** join/#debian cakehero (~cakehero@110.sub-70-197-136.myvzw.com) |
| 21:07.02 | *** join/#debian Jdbye (~jdbye@ti0010a380-dhcp1283.bb.online.no) |
| 21:09.20 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1327] by debhelper |
| 21:09.29 | Theoden | abrotman: Ok - thx |
| 21:10.20 | *** join/#debian crank1988 (~crank1988@178-84-207-74.dynamic.upc.nl) |
| 21:10.23 | *** join/#debian serjs (~serjs@79.164.65.242) |
| 21:11.28 | *** join/#debian AimHere (~bod@host86-165-192-2.range86-165.btcentralplus.com) |
| 21:11.52 | *** join/#debian geenna (~geenna@95.239.195.26) |
| 21:11.55 | *** join/#debian aindilis (~aindilis@173-165-36-107-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 21:12.14 | *** join/#debian edgar-rft (~GOD@HSI-KBW-091-089-005-041.hsi2.kabelbw.de) |
| 21:12.54 | *** join/#debian Guest23495 (~sconde@62.83.47.190.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 21:13.13 | *** join/#debian qu-bit (~shroedngr@unaffiliated/barriers) |
| 21:13.54 | *** part/#debian vipersniper (~viper@S0106002129c36a75.no.shawcable.net) |
| 21:15.07 | *** join/#debian ToeTag (~ToeTag@unaffiliated/toetag) |
| 21:15.26 | *** join/#debian chaispaquichui (~gudule_bo@85.193-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 21:15.47 | *** join/#debian format_c (~jrg@dslb-146-060-060-071.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 21:16.21 | *** join/#debian ThinkingGuy (~george@c-98-251-65-125.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 21:16.24 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: [snip the command up to the echo and run it from there] yeah, definitely |
| 21:16.31 | *** join/#debian format_c (~jrg@dslb-146-060-060-071.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 21:17.42 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: it just refuses to make the file |
| 21:18.28 | jelly-home | do it manually, then |
| 21:18.37 | *** join/#debian streuner_ (~streuner@mnhm-4d0180de.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 21:19.40 | *** join/#debian b_52globe (~b_52globe@41.249.21.196) |
| 21:19.59 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: ok done |
| 21:20.21 | Yoshi1 | had to manually make the dir and had to run it from a root terminal :{ |
| 21:20.52 | *** join/#debian streuner__ (~streuner@mnhm-4d01a829.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 21:21.13 | jelly-home | as installations are usually done yes |
| 21:21.43 | Yoshi1 | well alright is that it? |
| 21:21.51 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 21:21.58 | jelly-home | the only way to get nouveau out of the memory is to reboot at this point |
| 21:22.04 | Yoshi1 | alright |
| 21:22.07 | Yoshi1 | brb |
| 21:22.08 | Yoshi1 | i hope |
| 21:22.09 | jelly-home | if everything went fine, that's it |
| 21:22.59 | *** join/#debian pbn (~pbn@wopr.geekshells.org) |
| 21:23.20 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 21:23.42 | *** join/#debian Zitter (~danilo@host134-119-dynamic.57-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 21:24.04 | *** join/#debian Jekyll (~whodare@114.249.222.148) |
| 21:24.04 | *** join/#debian Leconite (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/leconite) |
| 21:24.18 | *** join/#debian Walzmyn (~quassel@50.96.100.106) |
| 21:25.03 | jelly-home | !qotd0 |
| 21:25.03 | dpkg | <wols_> vzrb a devuab betubstakk CD <wols_> *burn a dbeian netinstall CD <jelly> wols_: you're drifting to the right... republican? <wols_> jelly: my equipment drifts to the left. anarchist |
| 21:25.09 | *** part/#debian chaispaquichui (~gudule_bo@85.193-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 21:26.50 | *** part/#debian ToeTag (~ToeTag@unaffiliated/toetag) |
| 21:29.16 | *** part/#debian nimitz (~ztimin@modemcable067.221-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 21:29.48 | *** join/#debian oufo_ (~ET@188.4.155.121.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 21:30.47 | *** join/#debian neersighted (neer@is.a.slave.to.neersighted.com) |
| 21:31.25 | *** join/#debian PryMar56 (~prymar@cpe-72-130-32-164.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 21:32.31 | *** join/#debian CookieJar (~CookieJar@wnklmb0121w-ad03-64-36.dynamic.mtsallstream.net) |
| 21:33.44 | *** join/#debian abec0 (~olivier@vvma.net) |
| 21:34.59 | *** join/#debian AimHere (~bod@host86-165-192-2.range86-165.btcentralplus.com) |
| 21:35.57 | *** join/#debian project2501b (~kot@109.171.130.235) |
| 21:36.09 | *** part/#debian alkul (~alk@80.red-83-61-36.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) |
| 21:36.30 | *** join/#debian engla (~engla@wikipedia/Sverdrup) |
| 21:38.06 | *** join/#debian tux300 (~tux300@alef.blitzpost.com) |
| 21:38.07 | *** join/#debian Stoob_ (~steev@108.174.53.111) |
| 21:38.26 | *** join/#debian Leconite (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/leconite) |
| 21:39.30 | *** join/#debian Yoshi1 (~yoshi@dsl-173-206-30-35.tor.primus.ca) |
| 21:39.52 | *** join/#debian Kriminel (~me@79.114.56.118) |
| 21:39.53 | *** join/#debian Kriminel (~me@unaffiliated/kriminel) |
| 21:40.01 | *** part/#debian IsaacHaze (~opera@g77045.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 21:40.03 | Yoshi1 | no that didnt work |
| 21:41.33 | *** join/#debian enkrypt (~jan@d51A487AD.access.telenet.be) |
| 21:42.44 | *** join/#debian marvinstuart (~marvinstu@cpe-184-57-132-151.cinci.res.rr.com) |
| 21:44.58 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: verify that nouveau is not loaded (in dmesg) and that nvidia module for current kernel exists |
| 21:45.27 | *** join/#debian cornelinux (~koelbel@p4FFF92C6.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:46.40 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: if nouveau is not loaded and nvidia module is present, you card might be too old (or too new?) for nvidia 295.59 |
| 21:46.47 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: dont think it is i cant find it in the dmesg output |
| 21:46.55 | Yoshi1 | it's a 540m |
| 21:47.13 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: if you install nvidia-detect and run it, what does it say? |
| 21:47.31 | tux300 | #peace |
| 21:47.40 | *** join/#debian semeion (~semeion@gateway/tor-sasl/semeion) |
| 21:47.47 | Yoshi1 | It is recommended to install the nvidia-glx/squeeze-backports |
| 21:48.01 | jelly-home | you already did that |
| 21:49.20 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1319] by debhelper |
| 21:49.38 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: pastebin the failed /var/log/Xorg.0.log then |
| 21:50.10 | metap0d | I opted to install a graphical environment on the Debian net installer ... it seems to be downloading a massive amount of packages despite me not selecting anything. Is there a default WM/DE installed or will I eventually get to choose? |
| 21:50.31 | abrotman | metap0d: it will install gnome |
| 21:50.57 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/35mtX7mk |
| 21:51.02 | Yoshi1 | full output |
| 21:51.10 | metap0d | abrotman: Dang that isn't what I wanted ..Thanks. |
| 21:51.18 | *** join/#debian Kondor (~root@pool-108-22-245-108.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) |
| 21:51.28 | abrotman | metap0d: just change it later .. let it finish |
| 21:51.28 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: good, since that's what you've installed |
| 21:52.39 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@78.181.118.75) |
| 21:52.40 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 21:52.46 | Yoshi1 | but when i boot with it i get a screen flicker and the boot locks |
| 21:52.54 | *** part/#debian Hugh_Man (~kvirc@c-68-61-229-187.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 21:53.25 | Yoshi1 | well i dont know if locks is the right word i can still alt-ctrl-del but the boot doesnt progress |
| 21:53.42 | Yoshi1 | right after it loads gdm3 |
| 21:54.04 | *** join/#debian dokma (~kvirc@78-0-205-218.adsl.net.t-com.hr) |
| 21:54.29 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: does it leave in text mode, or black screen or what |
| 21:54.43 | jelly-home | and where is that Xorg.0.log |
| 21:55.09 | jelly-home | s/leave/stay/ |
| 21:55.24 | *** join/#debian syssi_ (~syssi@unaffiliated/syssi) |
| 21:55.58 | *** join/#debian geenna (~geenna@95.238.97.24) |
| 21:56.02 | *** join/#debian Yoshi2 (~yoshi@dsl-173-206-30-35.tor.primus.ca) |
| 21:56.07 | Yoshi2 | (04:53:23 PM) Yoshi1: well i dont know if locks is the right word i can still alt-ctrl-del but the boot doesnt progress |
| 21:56.08 | Yoshi2 | (04:53:39 PM) Yoshi1: right after it loads gdm3 |
| 21:56.20 | *** join/#debian sevenfourk (~sevenfour@unaffiliated/sevenfourk) |
| 21:56.44 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: does it stay in text mode at that point, or black screen or what |
| 21:56.59 | *** join/#debian sevenfourk (~sevenfour@unaffiliated/sevenfourk) |
| 21:57.32 | Yoshi1 | neither basically the screen flickers on the f7 where the main window is the cursor flickers if i try to switch to other tty's i get a split second of text i can see then black |
| 21:58.12 | jelly-home | can you log in from a different machine and capture /var/log/Xorg.0.log at tha tpoint |
| 21:58.26 | Yoshi1 | no i only have the one machine |
| 21:58.37 | jelly-home | a tablet was mentioned |
| 21:58.47 | jelly-home | tablets have ssh clients |
| 21:59.07 | Yoshi1 | not by me :{ |
| 21:59.19 | jelly-home | :( |
| 21:59.19 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1312] by debhelper |
| 21:59.47 | jelly-home | that means I'm not useful for support any more |
| 22:00.08 | Yoshi1 | whats the query to the bot to find out that command again? |
| 22:00.18 | Yoshi1 | my friend finally came online mayhaps he can help |
| 22:00.22 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: /msg dpkg nvidia dkms |
| 22:00.31 | *** join/#debian streuner_ (~streuner@mnhm-4d01b1d7.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 22:00.31 | abrotman | run away! |
| 22:00.31 | Yoshi1 | thanks |
| 22:00.36 | *** join/#debian mjessome (~mjessome@108.174.53.58) |
| 22:00.58 | *** join/#debian subthalamus (~chatzilla@bou57-1-78-247-40-105.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 22:01.06 | jelly-home | 295.x was problematic on some cards supposedly, if that's the case you'll have to wait for wheezy |
| 22:01.31 | *** join/#debian Benkinooby (~mister@unaffiliated/benkinooby) |
| 22:01.41 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: one possible thing to try is also upgrade X server to the version from squeeze-backports |
| 22:01.42 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: thanks for trying and for your patience |
| 22:01.43 | *** join/#debian cheese1756 (~cheese175@unaffiliated/cheese1756) |
| 22:01.56 | jelly-home | (/msg dpkg bdo xorg) |
| 22:03.15 | *** join/#debian slonsiki (~slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) |
| 22:03.22 | *** join/#debian jagginess (~jb@modemcable032.45-160-184.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 22:03.51 | Benkinooby | hi, i want to download a big file over a bad internet connection. so far i use a shell script, that runs an endless loop as long as the exit value of rsync is bad and exits the loot when the exit value is ok. still the connections breaks with a "broken pipe" message. any ideas? i wan't able to find a soluntion with google. |
| 22:04.53 | jagginess | Benkinooby, well it's likely not the software if you get alot of broken net connections... |
| 22:05.13 | petemc | Benkinooby: in server supports resume wget -c |
| 22:05.15 | abrotman | Benkinooby: can you not use wget with resume ? |
| 22:05.16 | jagginess | Benkinooby, you should see if you get alot of bad etherframes (netstat) |
| 22:05.22 | *** join/#debian n1x (~n1x@unaffiliated/n1xnc0d3) |
| 22:05.38 | jagginess | if the server doesn' |
| 22:05.49 | *** join/#debian Darky`` (~Darky@unaffiliated/darky/x-7824662) |
| 22:05.53 | jagginess | t' allow "resume", you'll be restarting the file over and over |
| 22:06.41 | Benkinooby | petemc abrotman is there a way to make wget use ssh? |
| 22:06.55 | abrotman | don't believe so |
| 22:07.06 | petemc | not unless you make it transparent to wget |
| 22:07.07 | abrotman | Benkinooby: how big is the file? what's the filetype? |
| 22:07.38 | jelly-home | your while ! rsync; do sleep 1; done sounds like a decent kludge |
| 22:07.41 | Benkinooby | jagginess: i thought so too... on the other hand, i do it by putty via a tmux-session running a script.... so many "iterations" where stuff might go wrong... often something you never think of :P |
| 22:07.45 | petemc | Benkinooby: you're using -P with rsync ? |
| 22:07.57 | *** join/#debian Kriminel_ (~me@79.114.56.158) |
| 22:07.58 | *** join/#debian Kriminel_ (~me@unaffiliated/kriminel) |
| 22:07.59 | Benkinooby | abrotman: a ISO. one is 1.7 the other 3.5 |
| 22:08.10 | *** join/#debian Morgawr (~morgawr@host124-237-static.38-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 22:08.13 | abrotman | Benkinooby: use the 'split' command, make it smaller chunks, use rsync |
| 22:08.16 | *** part/#debian Morgawr (~morgawr@host124-237-static.38-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 22:08.29 | jelly-home | abrotman: what's the functional difference? |
| 22:08.37 | Benkinooby | petemc: yes |
| 22:08.41 | abrotman | jelly-home: rsync doesn't support resume? |
| 22:08.48 | jelly-home | lol |
| 22:08.56 | jelly-home | that's one of its major features |
| 22:09.07 | abrotman | jelly-home: on a single file? |
| 22:09.10 | jelly-home | yes |
| 22:09.12 | abrotman | thought it didn't |
| 22:09.16 | abrotman | then why is he complaining? |
| 22:09.21 | Benkinooby | abrotman: jelly-home i think there are two types of resume. one in terms of data and one in terms of time |
| 22:09.23 | jelly-home | abrotman: because hack! |
| 22:09.33 | Benkinooby | i can do the data resume |
| 22:09.34 | abrotman | most of my rsync is related to smaller files .. so i wouldn't have noticed i suppose |
| 22:09.58 | Benkinooby | my problem is to resume the rsync when ever something goes wrong |
| 22:10.08 | jelly-home | you can avoid the extra copying with --inplace, but that's not really important |
| 22:10.23 | Benkinooby | for now i need resync to be robust |
| 22:10.31 | Benkinooby | in a "temporal" sense |
| 22:10.55 | petemc | you dont want rsync to work outside of time? |
| 22:10.58 | petemc | good job |
| 22:11.07 | Benkinooby | ? |
| 22:11.24 | Benkinooby | my problem is, that rsync stops working after a "problem" |
| 22:11.30 | Benkinooby | so it won't use the night time |
| 22:11.31 | *** join/#debian format_c (~jrg@dslb-146-060-060-071.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:11.39 | petemc | whats the exact command line you use? |
| 22:12.26 | Benkinooby | petemc: rsync --bwlimit=0 --partial --progress -e 'ssh -p XXX' user@host.com:~/test ~/test |
| 22:12.38 | Benkinooby | petemc: gimme a second and i'll pastebin the script |
| 22:12.45 | Brigo | Benkinooby: and why dont you use wget? |
| 22:13.19 | *** join/#debian ^Max (max@84-231-116-219.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 22:14.54 | Benkinooby | Brigo: because i don't run a http or ftp server |
| 22:15.04 | Benkinooby | Brigo: is setting up a ftp server difficult? |
| 22:15.14 | *** join/#debian uestra (~lard@dslb-092-076-179-121.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:15.17 | Benkinooby | i might consider it |
| 22:15.27 | jagginess | eh ehhe |
| 22:15.55 | Brigo | i think for your need it my be easy, the problem is the security, you know. |
| 22:16.08 | Benkinooby | that's my concern too |
| 22:16.39 | *** join/#debian grn_ (~grn@77.228.247.33) |
| 22:16.42 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 22:16.55 | Benkinooby | !pastebin |
| 22:16.55 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 22:19.20 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1305] by debhelper |
| 22:19.24 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@2001:4dd0:ff00:8421:6e62:6dff:fe4a:e47d) |
| 22:19.42 | Benkinooby | petemc: http://pastie.org/5680313 |
| 22:20.03 | *** join/#debian gauteh (~gaute@cE6835BC1.dhcp.as2116.net) |
| 22:20.36 | Brigo | Benkinooby: ok, and what is the problem, rsync do not resume? |
| 22:20.39 | Benkinooby | petemc: let me als post the error mesages |
| 22:20.47 | Benkinooby | petemc: let me als post the error mesages Brigo |
| 22:21.20 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@c-98-210-252-110.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 22:22.28 | civillian | I have a shell script which uses `cat -` in a function, what does this do? |
| 22:22.52 | abrotman | civillian: - is STDIN |
| 22:22.57 | frostschutz | civillian: should be the same as cat without - |
| 22:23.31 | civillian | hmm |
| 22:23.38 | dorp | I've upgraded bash-4.1.5 to bash-4.2, and it seems that dhclient-script no longer sees the path "/sbin/" in $PATH - hence it outputs: "ifconfig: command not found" ... anybody happen to stumble this issue? |
| 22:24.13 | Brigo | dorp: for root user or for standar user? |
| 22:24.25 | dorp | Brigo: As root |
| 22:24.34 | Brigo | no, i am not. |
| 22:24.53 | dorp | Brigo: I'm sorry? |
| 22:24.57 | *** join/#debian Quix0r (~quix0r@dslb-094-221-149-103.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:24.57 | Benkinooby | Brigo: petemc http://pastie.org/5680331 |
| 22:25.32 | Benkinooby | abrotman: i don't see how spltting it would help me with my problem.did i miss someting? |
| 22:25.36 | *** join/#debian Skitsu`work (~mayoi@nessa.yuuzukiyo.net) |
| 22:26.38 | *** join/#debian Skitsu`work (~mayoi@nessa.yuuzukiyo.net) |
| 22:26.52 | Brigo | Benkinooby: it looks like the script are doind the job, but too much errors... |
| 22:27.01 | Benkinooby | Brigo: hm |
| 22:27.38 | *** join/#debian talsamon (~talsamon@93-82-140-210.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 22:27.39 | abrotman | Benkinooby: jelly-home mocked me! |
| 22:28.36 | Benkinooby | puts jelly-home on his mocking list |
| 22:29.16 | petemc | Benkinooby: tried replacing [ 1 ] with : |
| 22:29.20 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1299] by debhelper |
| 22:29.34 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@78.181.118.75) |
| 22:29.34 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 22:29.58 | jelly-home | \_o< <- the mocking bird |
| 22:30.45 | *** mode/#debian [+o eir] by ChanServ |
| 22:30.45 | *** mode/#debian [-qo *!*@130.83.142.74 eir] by eir |
| 22:31.35 | Brigo | abrotman: you mind rsync cant resume? |
| 22:32.25 | *** join/#debian nathwill (~nathwill@2001:470:d:1338:f903:8cd6:498b:b226) |
| 22:32.50 | abrotman | Brigo: i've never used rsync for files larger than a few hundred MB, so I've never had a chance to notice |
| 22:33.14 | *** part/#debian addaitech (lennox@2001:5c0:1116:9a00:e4d2:ccfb:8a9d:6765) |
| 22:33.48 | Benkinooby | ok - is ther a tool fit for bad connections? |
| 22:33.53 | Benkinooby | *there |
| 22:33.57 | Brigo | abrotman: i am asking, i dont know it. Can rsync resume syncs? may be it is senseless. |
| 22:34.22 | *** join/#debian troller (~proller@80.240.216.69) |
| 22:34.24 | hramrach | it's senseless |
| 22:34.30 | hramrach | you just sync again |
| 22:34.34 | Brigo | a tool who supports resume, i think. |
| 22:34.36 | jelly-home | Brigo: what it can do, is detect first 300MB is exactly the same on both ends, and continue copying from that point on |
| 22:34.45 | hramrach | what was not synced last time will be synced next time |
| 22:35.49 | Benkinooby | Maybe there is confusion: the resuming of the download is not the problem. it will proceed where it stopped. my trouble is to start the resuming automatically |
| 22:36.14 | hramrach | check return value |
| 22:36.16 | Benkinooby | maybe the rsync daemon will help? but from what i think of - resuming should be taken care of by the client |
| 22:36.29 | *** join/#debian streuner__ (~streuner@mnhm-4d0066e1.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 22:36.33 | Benkinooby | hramrach: that is what i am doing http://pastie.org/5680313 |
| 22:37.42 | hramrach | I use rsync only by hand so I would not know |
| 22:37.50 | hramrach | maybe the return value is senseless |
| 22:38.17 | petemc | or !1 |
| 22:38.37 | Benkinooby | hramrach: as you can see the script even makes rsyn to resume http://pastie.org/5680331 but at some point it just doesn't work |
| 22:38.48 | *** join/#debian msantana (msantana@unaffiliated/darkstar) |
| 22:39.07 | Benkinooby | hramrach: while at the same point i am sure the connection works, becuase i was chatting with someone from the same LAN as thersync-ing coputer |
| 22:39.08 | Brigo | Benkinooby: but in your last paste the script did severals resumes ... didn't it? |
| 22:39.10 | Benkinooby | *computer |
| 22:39.20 | *** join/#debian LaptopBrain (~brain@cpc2-mfld3-0-0-cust139.13-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 22:39.46 | *** join/#debian jiku (~jikz@223.226.81.7) |
| 22:39.54 | Benkinooby | Brigo: yes |
| 22:40.06 | Brigo | so? |
| 22:40.11 | Benkinooby | Brigo: but something is messing with it because it stops working |
| 22:40.13 | Brigo | or then? |
| 22:40.17 | hramrach | Benkinooby: you are out of disk space possibly |
| 22:40.18 | Benkinooby | Brigo: it resumes for some thime |
| 22:40.24 | Benkinooby | hramrach: no, checked already |
| 22:40.33 | Benkinooby | i think the gods are against me again :P |
| 22:40.40 | *** join/#debian project2501b (~kot@109.171.130.235) |
| 22:40.50 | Brigo | there may be a why :-) |
| 22:41.13 | *** join/#debian bimini (~pjwall@86-46-86-170-dynamic.b-ras1.wtd.waterford.eircom.net) |
| 22:41.16 | hramrach | and I guess you have networking problems, too |
| 22:41.42 | Brigo | check the rsync output of sucefully resumes and compare it with the ones who brakes the script. |
| 22:41.45 | Benkinooby | hramrach: the connection is very bad - the rsync client uses a sat connection from west africa |
| 22:41.58 | hramrach | hmm |
| 22:42.06 | hramrach | did you ever try bcp? |
| 22:42.13 | hramrach | if you can even find it still |
| 22:42.21 | Benkinooby | bcp? |
| 22:42.26 | *** part/#debian ThinkingGuy (~george@c-98-251-65-125.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 22:42.28 | Brigo | Benkinooby: you can use another aproach ... |
| 22:42.30 | hramrach | it's acronym for 'brutal copy' |
| 22:42.45 | hramrach | it was designed for your use case |
| 22:42.56 | Benkinooby | ! |
| 22:43.59 | Benkinooby | Brigo: which one? |
| 22:44.13 | hramrach | it's at freshmeat |
| 22:44.31 | hramrach | http://freecode.com/projects/brutalcopy |
| 22:44.32 | Benkinooby | Brigo: i even thought i might creat a torrent for it and share the torrent file ony to the other guy |
| 22:44.48 | Brigo | not sure, a daemon -a daemonized script- who restart rsync when needed. |
| 22:45.01 | Benkinooby | hramrach: thanks for the link - google was not very helpful |
| 22:45.21 | Benkinooby | Brigo: that is waht my script is doing - isnt it? |
| 22:45.32 | hramrach | torrent might work too |
| 22:45.34 | Benkinooby | Brigo: http://pastie.org/5680313 |
| 22:45.45 | hramrach | it will just try again and again until some data transmits |
| 22:46.00 | Benkinooby | hramrach: see my suggestion jsut some comment above ;) |
| 22:46.08 | hramrach | but bcp is probably more efficient in this case |
| 22:46.19 | Benkinooby | hramrach: but i think it will be easier than configuring any cind of daemon or service |
| 22:46.31 | *** join/#debian floe (~flo@e179018208.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 22:46.35 | Brigo | Benkinooby: no your script dead whit rsync. For example, you can use cron test if rsync are running, if not loaunch it. It os only an example. |
| 22:47.00 | Brigo | bcp looks like very intersting. |
| 22:47.35 | *** join/#debian peterrooney (~peter@S0106000393e2a2bd.gv.shawcable.net) |
| 22:48.21 | Brigo | Benkinooby: no, your script dead whit rsync. For example, you can use cron. Test if rsync are running, if not loaunch it. It is only an example. |
| 22:48.30 | *** join/#debian streuner_ (~streuner@mnhm-4d01ad04.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 22:49.21 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1293] by debhelper |
| 22:50.05 | Benkinooby | Brigo: hramrach i will either go with torrents or with bcp - thank you two for your interest and time |
| 22:50.59 | *** join/#debian zw01_ (~zw01@ip70-191-92-37.sb.sd.cox.net) |
| 22:51.24 | Benkinooby | Brigo: hramrach - question: guess bcp has no way of authentication or something... that what i take from the README but icould be wrong |
| 22:51.51 | *** join/#debian marvinstuart (~marvinstu@cpe-184-57-132-151.cinci.res.rr.com) |
| 22:51.56 | *** join/#debian magnet (~magnet@silmaril.mithrandir.net) |
| 22:52.27 | hramrach | I have no idea |
| 22:52.29 | hramrach | never usd it myself |
| 22:53.52 | Benkinooby | hramrach: ok - i'll go do my homework on it:P |
| 22:53.56 | *** join/#debian tux300 (~tux300@alef.blitzpost.com) |
| 22:54.13 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 22:57.00 | *** join/#debian b_52globe (~b_52globe@41.249.21.196) |
| 22:58.17 | *** join/#debian phaer (~phaer@chello080108051063.9.11.vie.surfer.at) |
| 22:58.30 | *** join/#debian Grey3 (~Grey@b0fc2b4b.bb.sky.com) |
| 22:59.08 | *** join/#debian Joelito (~joel@187.184.65.104.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx) |
| 22:59.20 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1287] by debhelper |
| 22:59.24 | *** join/#debian tuxq (~steven@cpe-075-181-057-239.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 22:59.29 | *** join/#debian asderca77 (~ared@host209-178-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 22:59.30 | *** part/#debian tuxq (~steven@cpe-075-181-057-239.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 22:59.47 | Joelito | hi |
| 23:00.03 | Joelito | I'm having problems with my laptop backlight |
| 23:01.17 | hramrach | is that the kind of problem that requires replacing the diplay or the kinda that requires upgraing the kernel? |
| 23:01.20 | *** join/#debian fisted (~fisted@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 23:01.23 | Joelito | I addded into my grub this code cheat: acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor |
| 23:02.12 | Joelito | and later at my rc.local I added this: setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=0 |
| 23:02.38 | hramrach | the cheat code is for a particular situation |
| 23:02.48 | Joelito | which works fine, but once slim start it turns blank screen |
| 23:02.48 | hramrach | there is no guarantee yours is the same |
| 23:02.51 | Joelito | any ideas? |
| 23:03.10 | hramrach | slim? |
| 23:03.14 | Joelito | yup |
| 23:03.25 | hramrach | is that a display manager? |
| 23:03.30 | Joelito | yes |
| 23:03.52 | hramrach | maybe X server upsets whatever you painstakingly set up |
| 23:05.01 | Joelito | owww |
| 23:05.27 | Joelito | I can always tap with my hardware keys, but I'd like something automatic |
| 23:06.32 | hramrach | most DMs have X setup scripts to run before/after X server is started |
| 23:06.43 | hramrach | try adding that thing to such script |
| 23:06.51 | hramrach | but I never used slim |
| 23:07.28 | hramrach | or rather installed it and found it does not work for me rather quickly so removed it again |
| 23:07.38 | hramrach | so no idea about its config details |
| 23:07.55 | *** join/#debian Jekyll (~whodare@114.249.222.148) |
| 23:08.08 | *** join/#debian DeltaHeavy_ (~DeltaHeav@CPEbc1401e9a4d3-CMbc1401e9a4d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 23:09.22 | *** part/#debian CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@188-180-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) |
| 23:12.17 | Joelito | well thanks |
| 23:17.01 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@174.32.161.34) |
| 23:17.10 | *** join/#debian histo (~histo@unaffiliated/histo) |
| 23:18.38 | *** join/#debian Devastator- (~devas@186.214.14.9) |
| 23:18.40 | histo | Hello I'm running a minimal system on my 50" plasma. Running at 1280x720 resolution. I'm noticing that xfce4-terminal and lxterminal are gigantic for somereason even in a 75x10 line window. They are taking over the entire screen. Other apps appear normal this resolution I can't figure out why my terminals are so gigantic. Using just plainX or awesome wm |
| 23:18.41 | jimcooncat | excuse me, what do I have get to read .epub files? 'aptitude search' shows no viewers or plugins |
| 23:18.49 | *** join/#debian Devastator- (~devas@unaffiliated/devastator) |
| 23:19.21 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1275] by debhelper |
| 23:19.39 | jagginess | jimcooncat, epub files .. perhaps there's a firefox plugin.. (epub files are nothing more than actually .zip files with html files in them -- you can also "extract" .epub as a .zip) |
| 23:19.49 | hramrach | jimcooncat: stfw for e-book reader for linux |
| 23:20.03 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@78.181.118.75) |
| 23:20.04 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 23:20.31 | Tramp | jimcooncat: apt-cache search |
| 23:20.42 | hramrach | firefox plugin does not sound overly exciting but might work in some cases |
| 23:20.43 | themill | jimcooncat: okular+okular-extra-backends (amongst other options) |
| 23:20.49 | mtn | jimcooncat: quick google search: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=77204 |
| 23:20.54 | jagginess | notes epub-utils package |
| 23:20.57 | hramrach | some other alternatives exist |
| 23:21.02 | jagginess | notes epub-utils package |
| 23:21.19 | jimcooncat | thanks folks!! |
| 23:21.20 | jagginess | hramrach, extract the .epub. |
| 23:21.29 | *** join/#debian troller (~proller@80.240.216.69) |
| 23:21.30 | jagginess | jimcooncat, ^ |
| 23:21.54 | histo | A default terminal 80x24 lines is off of the screen and the text is about 1.5" tall on the screen. I've set the font down to 10 with no real changes. However a browser liek google chroome appears normal sized. |
| 23:22.27 | *** join/#debian Cueball (~lee@2001:8b0:ffb3::c0:ff:ee) |
| 23:23.04 | hramrach | histo: sounds like you have a bug in text size handling |
| 23:23.19 | hramrach | what dpi does xdpyinfo report? |
| 23:23.19 | *** join/#debian orfix (~mounir@41.143.176.158) |
| 23:23.30 | histo | hramrach: it appears only with gtk stuff maybe? Like even right clicking in a terminal the menus are gigantic |
| 23:23.37 | hramrach | does other terminal like gnome-terminal work? |
| 23:24.19 | hramrach | hmm, then set the resolution to be non-gigantic |
| 23:24.37 | jhutchins | histo: Yeah, there are a good half-dozen different terminals available in X, but are you talking about those or the virtual consoles on Ctrl-Alt-F1 - F6? |
| 23:24.38 | *** join/#debian yeehi (~n@unaffiliated/yeehi) |
| 23:24.51 | hramrach | what size does the screen report in edid? |
| 23:25.32 | histo | jhutchins: no just gtk based terminals. Like xterm appears normal sized at this res |
| 23:25.53 | histo | hramrach: xrandr shows the proper res 1280x720. I've also tried 1920x1080 same issue |
| 23:26.12 | jhutchins | histo: Wheezy? |
| 23:26.12 | hramrach | histo: set the screen resolution with xset or xrandr or wahtever |
| 23:26.13 | histo | hramrach: where exactly am I supposed to see dpi in all this output? |
| 23:26.36 | hramrach | grep -i dpi ? |
| 23:26.52 | jhutchins | histo: I believe that some GTK stuff stores defaults and preferences somewhere, but I don't think there's a tool to manage it. |
| 23:26.56 | hramrach | and grep mm |
| 23:27.20 | histo | hramrach: nothing for either grep in the output of xdpyinfo |
| 23:27.47 | *** join/#debian simone__ (~simone@host157-155-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 23:27.54 | histo | jhutchins: I used to have boxee installed on this box. I'm wondering if it dorked up a config to make the fonts huge or somehting. |
| 23:28.03 | jhutchins | hramrach: xrandr would affect everythign. |
| 23:28.22 | *** join/#debian b_52globe (~b_52globe@41.249.21.196) |
| 23:28.32 | *** join/#debian Carlop (~quassel@120.52.16.95.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 23:28.35 | hramrach | not when xterm has bitmap fonts selected by pixel size |
| 23:29.29 | histo | Am I atlet on the right tracck thining this is a gtk only thing since xterm and chrome appear fine? Chrome draws it's own menus |
| 23:29.38 | histo | s/atleast/atlet/ |
| 23:30.22 | hramrach | so xdpyinfo | grep dots |
| 23:30.33 | *** join/#debian sunra (~chris@c-213-160-36-201.customer.ggaweb.ch) |
| 23:30.38 | *** join/#debian coyo (unf@ryujin.darkdna.net) |
| 23:30.41 | sunra | hi |
| 23:30.50 | histo | hramrach: 203x203 |
| 23:31.00 | sunra | i got a problem re-assembling a raid5 array due controller failure |
| 23:31.09 | *** join/#debian slv (~slv@c-24-91-117-99.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 23:31.13 | hramrach | that's rather high |
| 23:31.28 | hramrach | so try to set it to 96x96 and see if that helps |
| 23:31.38 | histo | hramrach: how do I accomplish that? |
| 23:31.42 | hramrach | and try to figure out where the bogus value comes from |
| 23:31.53 | hramrach | with xrandr |
| 23:31.53 | *** join/#debian floe (~flo@e179018208.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 23:32.01 | hramrach | or maybe some control panel |
| 23:32.20 | hramrach | but setting with xrandr and restarting terminal should help |
| 23:32.23 | *** join/#debian metap0d (~quassel@184.175.29.13) |
| 23:32.49 | *** join/#debian marvinstuart (~marvinstu@cpe-184-57-132-151.cinci.res.rr.com) |
| 23:32.59 | hramrach | until you log out |
| 23:33.16 | histo | hramrach: k trying to figure otu how to do that with xrandr keep in mind I'm only reading abou 5 lines at a time in man |
| 23:33.51 | hramrach | xrandr --dpi 96 |
| 23:34.04 | *** join/#debian Therion87 (~Robert@dynamic-acs-24-239-82-21.zoominternet.net) |
| 23:34.18 | histo | hramrach: that was it |
| 23:34.18 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@78.181.118.75) |
| 23:34.19 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 23:34.35 | histo | hramrach: so what controls the dpi setting? there is nothing in Xorg.conf |
| 23:34.47 | *** join/#debian milobit (~milobit@unaffiliated/milobit) |
| 23:34.59 | histo | hramrach: and what' a normal DPI 96? |
| 23:35.01 | hramrach | the monitor edid controls it |
| 23:35.28 | *** join/#debian metap0d (~quassel@184.175.29.13) |
| 23:35.32 | histo | hramrach: Ahh I've had issues with the way this TV reports via HDMI with other stuff. |
| 23:35.54 | *** join/#debian [mrx] (~mrx]@2001:470:28:196:5054:ff:fe36:a3eb) |
| 23:35.54 | engla | the linux desktop is kind of broken w.r.t dpi |
| 23:36.01 | hramrach | histo: normal DPI is based on pixel size |
| 23:36.16 | hramrach | engla: how so? |
| 23:37.20 | themill | it's a lot less broken than another popular legacy operating system |
| 23:37.28 | abrotman | DOS? |
| 23:37.31 | cedr | is freenode debian's main network? or is there another one where the main stuff happens? |
| 23:37.41 | lupine | OFTC |
| 23:37.44 | Arrowmaster | oftc is the official network |
| 23:37.51 | cedr | has never heard of OFTC.. will have to look into it |
| 23:38.02 | hramrach | abrotman: and Windows and OS X |
| 23:38.06 | cedr | thanks :) |
| 23:38.18 | histo | hramrach: So I'd have to look up specs on this tv to find the proper DPI setting? |
| 23:38.30 | *** join/#debian lduros (~user@fsf/member/lduros) |
| 23:38.35 | hramrach | histo: gimp has DPI calibration tool in preferences |
| 23:38.38 | abrotman | Arrowmaster: not really "official" |
| 23:38.56 | sunra | i can't reassemble raid5 it always tells me about a no superblock issue, i pasted examine and fdisk to http://pastebin.com/68ffBECG |
| 23:39.20 | Arrowmaster | abrotman: having irc.debian.org point to oftc is about as official as it gets |
| 23:39.34 | abrotman | Arrowmaster: and that is as official as it gets .. they won't actually call it official |
| 23:39.57 | hramrach | once you set the DPI to correct value you can see what screen size xdpyinfo/xrandr report and set that in xorg.conf |
| 23:40.11 | abrotman | Arrowmaster: this was discussed when they moved most of the development channels over there |
| 23:40.36 | *** join/#debian Towzzer (Towzzer@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-ujowzopzlnevmjxd) |
| 23:40.46 | hramrach | there is DIsplaySize option for that |
| 23:40.56 | hramrach | * DisplaySize |
| 23:41.11 | histo | hramrach: you lost me there |
| 23:41.37 | histo | hramrach: with the see what scrren size? I know i'm running 1280x720 |
| 23:42.06 | hramrach | histo: xrandr and xdpyinfo report screen size in millimeters |
| 23:42.16 | *** join/#debian streuner_ (~streuner@mnhm-590e7a27.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 23:42.20 | hramrach | which is fabricated based on the DPI value you set |
| 23:42.22 | *** join/#debian Malf (~malf@66-44-42-2.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 23:42.35 | AimHere | Bah. Is there a dpkg --force flag that allows me to overrule "package libc6:i386 2.13-38 cannot be configured because libc6:amd64 is at a different version (2.13-37)" ? |
| 23:42.39 | histo | hramrach: Okay I'm trying to figure out what the proper dpi setting is supposed to be for this tv |
| 23:42.40 | hramrach | if you set that size in xorg.conf the dpi will be what it is now |
| 23:42.45 | AimHere | depends and bad-version and depends-version don't work |
| 23:42.52 | cedr | This should work in theory, ne? I've already added a network of OFTC. /server add -6 -ssl -auto -network OFTC -port 6697 irc.oftc.net |
| 23:42.59 | AimHere | Also libc6:amd64 gives me the equal and opposite error |
| 23:43.03 | cedr | It keeps on trying to connect on 6667 though, for some reason. (irssi) |
| 23:43.09 | hramrach | histo: you can use the tool in gimp preferences |
| 23:43.12 | hramrach | it's very nice |
| 23:43.13 | themill | AimHere: "don't do that" is the normal approach |
| 23:43.18 | AimHere | themill > I was forced to |
| 23:43.55 | *** join/#debian ryushe (ryushe@2600:3c00::31:face) |
| 23:43.55 | histo | hramrach: I don't have gimp installed. I'm just looking for another way real quick online. |
| 23:43.57 | AimHere | apt decided to break the libc6 upgrade (to the extent that 'ls' wouldn't work unless you refreshed the ld.so cache) |
| 23:44.30 | hramrach | histo: take a ruler and measure the actual screen size |
| 23:44.47 | histo | hramrach: it's a 50" |
| 23:44.50 | AimHere | I'm trying to dig the easiest way out of the damage |
| 23:45.18 | hramrach | histo: that's rather vague |
| 23:45.39 | *** join/#debian bandu (unf@ryujin.darkdna.net) |
| 23:45.42 | *** join/#debian chomwitt (~chomwitt@ppp-94-69-229-71.home.otenet.gr) |
| 23:45.45 | cedr | oh; -port doesn't actually set the port, heh |
| 23:45.50 | histo | hramrach: 50 inch television |
| 23:45.55 | cedr | misread the documentation |
| 23:45.56 | hramrach | and with 50" you never know if the displaye area with the actual picture is like 49.5" or 45" |
| 23:45.58 | histo | hramrach: 16:9 |
| 23:45.59 | *** join/#debian metap0d (~quassel@184.175.29.13) |
| 23:47.22 | *** join/#debian krisfremen (~Kris@108-249-166-45.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:47.22 | *** join/#debian krisfremen (~Kris@unaffiliated/krisfremen) |
| 23:47.32 | *** join/#debian Nach0z (~nach0z@c-67-191-194-41.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 23:47.47 | *** join/#debian mike (~textual@c-67-173-193-236.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 23:47.59 | *** join/#debian bimini (~pjwall@86-46-86-170-dynamic.b-ras1.wtd.waterford.eircom.net) |
| 23:48.57 | *** join/#debian richweskus (~gethosted@cpc7-pres16-2-0-cust431.18-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 23:49.21 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1265] by debhelper |
| 23:49.25 | *** join/#debian ryushe (ryushe@2600:3c00::31:face) |
| 23:49.51 | *** join/#debian Nach0z (~nach0z@unaffiliated/nach0z) |
| 23:51.36 | cedr | jeez, OFTC's services are annoying |
| 23:51.43 | cedr | thanks for the help though |
| 23:51.58 | *** join/#debian cobra-the-joker (~cobra@41.69.18.138) |
| 23:51.59 | *** join/#debian cobra-the-joker (~cobra@unaffiliated/cobra-the-joker) |
| 23:52.09 | *** join/#debian bimini (~pjwall@86-46-86-170-dynamic.b-ras1.wtd.waterford.eircom.net) |
| 23:54.11 | *** join/#debian CpuID2 (~CpuID@gentoo/contributor/cpuid) |
| 23:54.34 | *** join/#debian jasonwert (~w3rt@96-42-148-132.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) |
| 23:54.50 | *** join/#debian MmikeRMRM (~msplival@cpe-188-129-112-183.dynamic.amis.hr) |
| 23:54.54 | *** join/#debian crippledmonk (~todd@c-67-160-114-70.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 23:55.10 | CpuID2 | hey ppls? trying to "preseed" the debconf settings for postfix so that i can get a satellite system configuration on post install (ie. have a script that gets run that sets things up how i want it - unattended/automated) |
| 23:55.21 | *** join/#debian TheDrums (unit193@ubuntu/member/unit193) |
| 23:55.31 | CpuID2 | its weird? i have gone and debconf-set-selections for the various questions it asks in interactive mode |
| 23:55.54 | *** join/#debian pbn (pbn@wopr.geekshells.org) |
| 23:55.56 | CpuID2 | yet when it finishes interactive it has a pile of "setting xxx" lines |
| 23:56.11 | cusco | hi folks |
| 23:56.14 | CpuID2 | but in noninteractive only the last "setting inet_protocols: ipv4" line appears |
| 23:56.16 | histo | hramrach: I foudn some spec sheet online it shows 1365x768 as the resolution for this TV. Could that be the issue? I thought 1280x720 was 720p resolution |
| 23:56.17 | CpuID2 | but not all of the ones prior to it |
| 23:56.36 | CpuID2 | debconf-show postfix seems to confirm the "questions have all been asked" already though... |
| 23:56.43 | CpuID2 | not sure why its not using my preseeded responses |
| 23:57.09 | cusco | just moved a hard drive from a broken box... it drops to busybox stating it cannot find root fs on another box |
| 23:57.18 | cusco | what would be most common cause? |
| 23:57.30 | cusco | I'm chrooted in from debian installer |
| 23:57.47 | *** join/#debian philipballew (~philip.ba@ubuntu/member/philipballew) |
| 23:57.49 | abrotman | what kind of filesystem is it? |
| 23:57.53 | cusco | ext3 |
| 23:58.00 | abrotman | just ext3? or ext3 on LVM, etc |
| 23:58.05 | cusco | plain ext3 |
| 23:58.15 | hramrach | it's resolution in pixels, not dpi |
| 23:58.34 | hramrach | dpi is dots per inch, the inverse of pixel size |
| 23:59.05 | *** join/#debian formax (formax@unaffiliated/formax) |
| 23:59.06 | cusco | I thought about changing uuid to /dev/sda1 and so on, on fstab and grub.cgf |
| 23:59.15 | cusco | but after checking blkid, the UUID's are the same |
| 23:59.38 | *** join/#debian ocnam (~ocnam@108-90-126-222.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:59.45 | *** join/#debian DeltaHeavy_ (~DeltaHeav@d24-204-219-104.home4.cgocable.net) |
