| 00:00.32 | jhutchins_wk | phix: I have no idea, I've never tried, but a respawn loop is a known type of failure. |
| 00:01.07 | phix | ok |
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| 00:01.47 | jhutchins_wk | phix: Unfortunately it's not due to a specific known problem. |
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| 00:02.21 | phix | well I figured it out, I need to comment out the lines to spawn a termanl on tty as the lxc host doesn't allow the guest os to connect to those terminals |
| 00:02.27 | phix | permission issue |
| 00:02.53 | phix | jhutchins_wk: Now you know the answer to that specific problem :) |
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| 01:00.40 | vaillor | hi guys |
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| 01:01.15 | vaillor | i have 2 network adapter on my debian, but i try throught ssh to my host, but connetion goes in time out |
| 01:01.19 | vaillor | can you help me? |
| 01:01.49 | abrotman | and if you use the other one? |
| 01:01.58 | vaillor | it works |
| 01:02.00 | vaillor | ssh works |
| 01:02.03 | abrotman | vaillor: pastebin 'uname -r ; cat /etc/network/interfaces' |
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| 01:03.33 | vaillor | abrotman |
| 01:03.34 | vaillor | http://pastebin.com/utH009be |
| 01:03.41 | vaillor | the interface is up |
| 01:03.49 | vaillor | and it got its ip address |
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| 01:05.39 | vaillor | is possible that ssh accepts connections only from one adapter? |
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| 01:06.44 | Pinhole | yay, I figure it out. bummer. I can't use a mouse at the same time as a keyboard. The tablet runs out of "bandwidth" on the bus. |
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| 01:07.34 | zykotick9 | vaillor: see ListenAddress in sshd_config |
| 01:08.38 | xsappyx | vaillor: not with the default sshd_config.. does 'sudo netstat -nap | grep sshd' show sshd listening on your specific adapter or 0.0.0.0:22 ? |
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| 01:09.38 | vaillor | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1055/sshd |
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| 01:11.32 | vaillor | is possible that accepts only 1 connection for time? |
| 01:11.40 | vaillor | how to check it? |
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| 01:12.53 | xsappyx | vaillor: ya, it should be listening to all addresses then. can you pastebin 'ip addr' ? MaxSessions in sshd_config.. defaults to 10 |
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| 01:14.34 | vaillor | http://pastebin.com/pk1S869u |
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| 01:17.02 | xsappyx | vaillor: do you have a machine in each of those 10. and 192. networks you are testing with? if not, do you have a route to both networks on your client machine you're testing from? |
| 01:17.04 | abrotman | vaillor: do you wan tto have both interfaces running at the same time? and are they both actually getting a DHCP address ? |
| 01:17.27 | vaillor | root@debian-VM:~# cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | grep max |
| 01:17.27 | vaillor | root@debian-VM:~# |
| 01:17.49 | vaillor | <xsappyx> vaillor: do you have a machine in each of those 10. and 192. networks you are testing with? <<< yes |
| 01:18.41 | vaillor | http://pastebin.com/nruTnCfi |
| 01:18.49 | vaillor | this is the ifconfig output |
| 01:19.34 | abrotman | the route might be helpful |
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| 01:20.52 | vaillor | i've posted the nmap scan done by a remote host |
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| 01:27.04 | xsaidx | hello guys |
| 01:27.21 | vaillor | xsappyx, abrotman, nothing new? |
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| 01:28.01 | xsappyx | vaillor: the nmap scan show anything open? have you tried to restart sshd on there? |
| 01:28.02 | xsaidx | can someone help me i have installed a driver form my d-link dongle but its not detected by network manager |
| 01:28.26 | xsaidx | this is the driver http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/rt73 |
| 01:28.31 | vaillor | PORT STATE SERVICE |
| 01:28.38 | vaillor | 22/tcp open ssh |
| 01:30.03 | xsaidx | xsappyx: vaillor any idea |
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| 01:31.39 | xsappyx | vaillor: strange.. on that client, can you 'ssh -v $ip' maybe some type of error will show up but this sounds a bit strange.. if ssh is listening according to nmap, and sshd is listening on that port according to netstat, you should be able to connect |
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| 01:33.05 | xsappyx | xsaidx: network manager troubleshooting is outside of my knowledge.. does it show up in ifconfig -a ? |
| 01:35.31 | abrotman | vaillor: nmap won't help .. |
| 01:35.41 | vaillor | why? |
| 01:36.16 | xsaidx | xsappyx: thats what i have http://pastie.org/5977489 |
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| 01:37.25 | dvs | wtf is usb0? |
| 01:38.07 | xsaidx | its my phone which i use as a modem to have the net now |
| 01:38.10 | xsaidx | dvs |
| 01:38.35 | xsaidx | dvs: maybe i wont get em both workin at once ? |
| 01:39.37 | dvs | probably not but it should at least show up. |
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| 01:41.19 | xsaidx1 | dvs: sorry i got disconnected |
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| 02:13.42 | kephra | moin - is it possible to upgrade a system with kernel 2.6.32 (Xen) to wheezy? or does wheezy require some new kernel features |
| 02:14.11 | abrotman | wheezy has a newer kernel, yes |
| 02:15.15 | kephra | i know - so I wonder, is this required |
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| 02:15.28 | abrotman | The kernels in wheezy are Xen capable |
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| 02:45.58 | Stygian | what's the best vnc viewer for debian? |
| 02:46.12 | dvs | !best |
| 02:46.12 | dpkg | Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 02:46.17 | Stygian | want to be able to connect to my htpc through debian |
| 02:46.50 | Towzzer | gloria gaynor is the best |
| 02:47.06 | Towzzer | I will survive! |
| 02:47.25 | Stygian | do people ever give straight answers anymore? |
| 02:47.33 | Towzzer | I know |
| 02:47.44 | Towzzer | there is a new fear of ever being wrong or subjective |
| 02:47.57 | Towzzer | no one wants to say their opinion because then others might point out flaws |
| 02:48.05 | Towzzer | it seems lofty, like some sort of wise man, to say you are 99% sure |
| 02:48.09 | Towzzer | or that nothing is best |
| 02:49.12 | Towzzer | I can only recommend vncviewer because it's the only one i've used |
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| 02:50.39 | Stygian | thanks Towzzer |
| 02:51.29 | RocketLauncher | I accidentally deleted libgtk-3.0, which ended up breaking LightDM. I reinstalled both of them, everything's fine, but why does Firefox show no text in everything but webpages? http://i.imgur.com/1lnoPd2.png |
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| 02:55.29 | RocketLauncher | hurr t0rnad0 told me i left my email in that image |
| 02:55.31 | RocketLauncher | it's a junk account |
| 02:57.41 | abrotman | whoi ? |
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| 02:58.53 | daemonkeeper | bl1zz4rd's brother. |
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| 02:59.16 | uglytemite | how to download videos and mp3 |
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| 02:59.24 | abrotman | uglytemite: wget |
| 02:59.33 | abrotman | and now rocketlauncher leaves |
| 02:59.51 | Towzzer | uglyteite, go to geocities websites to get 50 parts of photoshop 5.5 |
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| 03:00.37 | genoobie | hey all |
| 03:00.54 | genoobie | I am planning a debian install on my PIII 800MHz, 384MB ram |
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| 03:01.10 | abrotman | genoobie: sounds lovely |
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| 03:02.41 | goole | "/ msg dpkg guidelines" |
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| 03:03.12 | abrotman | genoobie: did you hav another question? |
| 03:03.26 | goole | May i ask a question, (squeeze) |
| 03:03.38 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 03:03.43 | dvs | maybe... ;-P |
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| 03:04.41 | abrotman | pulls dvs's tongue |
| 03:04.48 | genoobie | abrotman, just in general |
| 03:04.58 | genoobie | given the age / specs of the system |
| 03:04.58 | dvs | ouch |
| 03:05.00 | genoobie | it's a laptop |
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| 03:05.18 | abrotman | genoobie: right? should work fine |
| 03:05.18 | genoobie | what might be a good place to start. |
| 03:05.24 | goole | I have debian iso img, installed 750Mb in android mob. |
| 03:05.27 | abrotman | genoobie: the installation guide |
| 03:05.32 | BaT | Hi |
| 03:05.44 | goole | Can i increase it to 1Gb |
| 03:05.46 | genoobie | I'm not afraid of cli, but I don't want to tweak an Xorg.conf file |
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| 03:05.57 | genoobie | I don't want to learn all the switches on the mount command |
| 03:06.04 | genoobie | I'd rather just plug in a usb and copy files |
| 03:06.08 | BaT | can someone point me, how to set mixed IPv4/IPv6 networking on debian? |
| 03:06.16 | genoobie | I'd like to mount network drives with a gui ideally |
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| 03:06.25 | genoobie | samba shares and similar |
| 03:06.28 | Arrowmaster | BaT: it should just work |
| 03:06.30 | abrotman | BaT: mixed how ? |
| 03:06.39 | genoobie | something somewhat family friendly and extensible |
| 03:06.46 | genoobie | maybe even stream abit of youtube |
| 03:06.48 | abrotman | genoobie: the Xorg should just work .. the GUI filemanager depends on your DE |
| 03:06.49 | BaT | iface bond0 inet static; iface bond0 inet6 static |
| 03:06.56 | BaT | That gave me weird results... |
| 03:07.00 | genoobie | so given those params |
| 03:07.14 | BaT | abrotman: dual stack, both IPv4 and IPv6 used |
| 03:07.15 | abrotman | genoobie: this would be easier to follow if you used the Enter key less often ;) |
| 03:07.16 | genoobie | abrotman, I'm sure I can install without a problem |
| 03:07.33 | abrotman | BaT: which version of linux ? |
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| 03:07.46 | BaT | Arrowmaster: Somehow assigning both addresses to the same interface didn't work properly |
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| 03:07.48 | genoobie | abrotman, sorry. But I wouldn't mind a DM so I could play with a few DE's before deciding |
| 03:07.59 | BaT | abrotman: squeeze with 2.6.39 kernel |
| 03:08.03 | abrotman | genoobie: so install a bunch! |
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| 03:08.12 | genoobie | I am playing around with antix at the moment and it seems reasonably decent |
| 03:08.34 | genoobie | fluxbox |
| 03:08.46 | abrotman | confused antix and antiword for a moment |
| 03:08.53 | BaT | On my VPS hosting I see strange configuration where IPv6 is assigned to eth0:1 and IPv4 for that alias is 127.0.0.2 |
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| 03:09.02 | abrotman | dpkg: tell BaT about ipv6 |
| 03:09.12 | genoobie | abrotman, lastly, I am hoping for better performance than a *ntu |
| 03:09.15 | abrotman | BaT: the wiki should be the link you read |
| 03:09.18 | abrotman | genoobie: duh ... |
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| 03:09.48 | genoobie | okay |
| 03:09.55 | genoobie | that's what I thought |
| 03:09.55 | BaT | abrotman: Thanks. I've read some article on wii.debian.org, but it didn't cover mixed case.. I'll check those |
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| 03:10.18 | genoobie | I've heard debian does a decent job with older hardware |
| 03:10.29 | abrotman | genoobie: i have it running on a 486 somewhere :) |
| 03:10.40 | goole | I installed debian (& gcc, jdk, vim) in samsung galaxy y, but i have never used linux. How to learn now. Plz suggest. |
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| 03:11.44 | genoobie | abrotman, lastly, I don't want to configure my own hardware, I'd rather just have autodetect take care of that stuff |
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| 03:11.56 | genoobie | abrotman, the netinst images should suffice? |
| 03:11.58 | goole | And how can i share my galaxy y hardware to debian os now (bluetooth,speaker) |
| 03:12.26 | abrotman | genoobie: wired or wireless ? |
| 03:12.32 | genoobie | wireless |
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| 03:12.58 | genoobie | maybe the cd image... |
| 03:13.06 | genoobie | nm it will have to be the CD image |
| 03:13.09 | daemonkeeper | Performance is not primarily a matter of your distribution, but what you install on it. |
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| 03:13.32 | abrotman | genoobie: do you know which wifi adapter it is? |
| 03:13.38 | genoobie | b43legacy |
| 03:13.50 | abrotman | dpkg: tell genoobie about firmware installer |
| 03:14.43 | BaT | abrotman: Yeh, seems I've read this wiki page, didn't help me much :( |
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| 03:16.08 | abrotman | BaT: which one? |
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| 03:16.39 | BaT | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6 |
| 03:16.43 | genoobie | abrotman, that's a bit above my head. I mean I understand that the firmware is not included and needs to be loaded, but the actual method seems daunting |
| 03:16.55 | abrotman | BaT: you can use the post-up part of the interfaces file to use the ip -6 command later |
| 03:17.02 | genoobie | I can hook it up to a wire and load the wireless later |
| 03:17.05 | abrotman | genoobie: it's an ISO .. you just use the ISO |
| 03:17.14 | abrotman | oh .. wrong factoid |
| 03:17.20 | abrotman | !tell genoobie about firmware images |
| 03:17.33 | BaT | abrotman: True, I can force it, but just wanted to do it "right way" |
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| 03:18.36 | abrotman | BaT: there's a channel reference in the factoid also |
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| 03:20.32 | BaT | abrotman: Yes, gonna try that |
| 03:20.36 | BaT | Thanks |
| 03:20.59 | abrotman | BaT: you didn't really say how it acts funny |
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| 03:22.18 | BaT | abrotman: Just doesn't work :) Can't ping even gw |
| 03:22.41 | BaT | abrotman: But when I do configuration with 'ip' command - everything works |
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| 03:23.27 | BaT | And resluting output of ip -6 looks the same in both cases :( |
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| 03:23.42 | dunkel2 | hello microcode |
| 03:23.47 | abrotman | BaT: there used to be a bug (may still exist in squeeze) where you couldn't configure an IPv6 interface in the interfaces file |
| 03:24.14 | BaT | abrotman: Oh?! |
| 03:24.26 | abrotman | BaT: it might be older than squeeze .. might be back with etch or lenny |
| 03:24.40 | BaT | No, I have 6.0.6 ATM... |
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| 03:25.15 | BaT | I'm puzzled why on my VPS hosting IPv6 is done in a strange way through alias |
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| 03:25.36 | abrotman | BaT: http://lists.debian.org/debian-ipv6/2009/03/msg00003.html |
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| 03:25.58 | BaT | Unless it's VPS specific... |
| 03:26.13 | abrotman | BaT: is that the same issue in that email ? |
| 03:27.28 | dunkel2 | how can I chroot a directory in debian? |
| 03:28.07 | abrotman | man chroot ? |
| 03:28.16 | BaT | abrotman: No... but at least it proves that I'm doing it the right way :) so just something fishy in the network maybe... |
| 03:28.23 | abrotman | perhaps |
| 03:28.36 | BaT | abrotman: Thanks for pointing |
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| 03:29.45 | abrotman | points! |
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| 03:30.23 | dunkel2 | chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': Exec format errorç |
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| 03:38.42 | genoobie | well |
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| 03:38.46 | dpkg | lowers Infiltrator's priority, courtesy of infiltrator |
| 03:38.58 | genoobie | turns out I had an xfce + lxde iso already downloaded |
| 03:39.03 | genoobie | so I am going to use this |
| 03:39.11 | genoobie | I picked LXDE and non-graphical install |
| 03:39.48 | genoobie | but now the hdd light is just lit up and there is just a blue screen. How can I tell if the install is dead / dying / or working |
| 03:40.21 | genoobie | does the installer copy everything to hdd? |
| 03:41.50 | abrotman | not *everything* .. what you tell it to, yes |
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| 03:42.05 | abrotman | genoobie: hit alt-f3 ? |
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| 03:42.24 | genoobie | okay, do I activate the console? |
| 03:42.30 | abrotman | oh .. try f4 |
| 03:42.48 | genoobie | oh eff |
| 03:43.03 | genoobie | it's trying to do something with a floppy |
| 03:43.04 | genoobie | wtf |
| 03:43.10 | abrotman | it'll time out .. let it go |
| 03:43.28 | genoobie | abrotman, takes a while? |
| 03:43.40 | genoobie | any switch at install to stop that? |
| 03:44.22 | abrotman | dunno, haven't had a floppy in uhm .. four years? |
| 03:44.26 | genoobie | abrotman, lastly, to return back to the text installer screen? |
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| 03:44.43 | abrotman | genoobie: alt-f1 |
| 03:45.00 | genoobie | and you're sure this thing is going to time-out? |
| 03:45.17 | abrotman | darn well should |
| 03:45.54 | genoobie | tx! |
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| 04:00.01 | genoobie | abrotman, did not time out |
| 04:00.20 | abrotman | genoobie: oh .. jeez .. can you just disable it in the BIOS .. you'll never use it |
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| 04:00.26 | genoobie | abrotman tried disabling in bios |
| 04:00.30 | genoobie | heh |
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| 04:00.38 | abrotman | just now ? |
| 04:00.50 | genoobie | yeah, I'm waiting for the installer to kick back in |
| 04:00.55 | abrotman | ah okay |
| 04:01.28 | abrotman | waits ... |
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| 04:01.53 | genoobie | there's some kind of floppy=thinkpad switch but I don't know how to switch that in startup |
| 04:02.04 | genoobie | nah, fat blah blah |
| 04:02.12 | abrotman | if it's disabled in the BIOS .. hopefully it won't even try |
| 04:02.14 | genoobie | fd0 rw=0 want =66 |
| 04:02.20 | genoobie | it's trying |
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| 04:02.25 | abrotman | wtf |
| 04:02.29 | genoobie | I know |
| 04:03.11 | abrotman | you oculd try expert mode, have it disable the floppy |
| 04:03.40 | genoobie | oh shit |
| 04:03.44 | genoobie | nm |
| 04:03.52 | abrotman | ? |
| 04:04.14 | genoobie | I disabled removable devices, think that the tree included floppy, but you need to do each member of the tree individually in BIOS |
| 04:04.21 | genoobie | try again...bbiam |
| 04:04.22 | abrotman | boo |
| 04:04.33 | genoobie | FAIL |
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| 04:06.07 | genoobie | I remember installing MS-DOS off of 6, 3.5" floppies |
| 04:06.12 | genoobie | now that was compact. |
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| 04:06.30 | abrotman | heh |
| 04:07.03 | genoobie | now wtf |
| 04:07.08 | genoobie | still same effing error |
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| 04:08.17 | abrotman | i'd try expert mode |
| 04:09.08 | genoobie | tried adding floppy=thinkpad to the LXDE init line |
| 04:09.27 | abrotman | okay |
| 04:09.29 | genoobie | next will be expert mode |
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| 04:09.44 | abrotman | waves! |
| 04:10.15 | genoobie | then I have to grade papers |
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| 04:10.26 | abrotman | oh jeez ... |
| 04:10.52 | genoobie | nope, looks like the same error again |
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| 04:11.08 | genoobie | okay, expert mode it is |
| 04:11.13 | genoobie | abrotman, is there a guide? |
| 04:11.27 | abrotman | in the installation manual i think |
| 04:11.28 | abrotman | !ig |
| 04:11.28 | dpkg | The Installation Guide for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/installmanual . See also <errata> <firmware images> <installer firmware> <release notes>. |
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| 04:20.41 | genoobie | abrotman, okay, dead ended |
| 04:21.17 | genoobie | should I re-enable the floppy in the bios and try floppy=thinkpad (even though there is none) |
| 04:21.28 | genoobie | I have to think someone went down this road before |
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| 04:25.58 | canvon | genoobie: when you use expert mode, in one step it will ask you something, and you can unselect the floppy module there. [*] -> [_] |
| 04:26.22 | canvon | or you could even skip the step in which it wants to use the floppy. just select the step after that in the menu and press enter |
| 04:26.59 | genoobie | canvon, I don't see that in expert mode |
| 04:27.18 | canvon | in what step does it try to use floppy? |
| 04:27.28 | genoobie | I think modprobe |
| 04:27.43 | canvon | I mean in what entry in the installation menu that you get in expert mode |
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| 04:27.58 | canvon | hm, and you can't skip that? |
| 04:28.14 | genoobie | canvon, let me go to expert mode again here |
| 04:28.15 | genoobie | hold a sec |
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| 04:30.26 | genoobie | canvon, now it is loading additional components |
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| 04:31.45 | genoobie | okay looks like it's getting jammed up in detecting network hardware |
| 04:31.53 | genoobie | I can always install that later, correct? |
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| 04:32.35 | canvon | if you don't need it to load additional packages during installation ... |
| 04:32.51 | genoobie | nah I have a complete CD I think |
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| 04:36.47 | genoobie | canvon, I cannot skip the step because it is the detect disks step |
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| 04:37.25 | canvon | ouh :( |
| 04:37.28 | genoobie | wait |
| 04:37.31 | genoobie | hold a sec |
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| 04:38.24 | genoobie | hopefully now it will just time-out |
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| 04:41.11 | genoobie | oh does debian want ext3 or ext4 |
| 04:41.15 | genoobie | probably does not matter |
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| 04:50.11 | genoobie | okay |
| 04:50.33 | genoobie | so can I do a non-expert install that skips network detect? |
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| 04:59.30 | russ__ | Hi all - I'm running 64 bit wheezy and have some standalone 320bit executables I need to run. I've been looking into multiarch, but this seems to be relevant for packages only... |
| 04:59.43 | russ__ | is ia32-libs the way to go for standalone executables? |
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| 05:00.18 | russ__ | s/320/32-/ |
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| 05:01.12 | Devastator | I might be wrong, but maybe you can port multiarch to your executable |
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| 05:01.36 | RigidWig | anyone know how to fix this error in apt-get: http://pastebin.com/zxREG1Xa |
| 05:01.37 | RigidWig | ? |
| 05:02.37 | russ__ | Devastator: I'm afraid I don't understand that |
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| 05:04.11 | Devastator | russ__ I don't know if you check the wiki yet, but this might a good start: http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/TheCaseForMultiarch |
| 05:04.44 | russ__ | Devastator: I did read it. That is what has me thinking it is for packages, not for single executables. I'll read again. |
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| 05:05.28 | russ__ | whoops - what I read was http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO ... reading the other link now |
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| 05:06.22 | Devastator | sorry, I'm going to bed, but someone will help you :) |
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| 07:08.25 | lane_ | I'm encountering an issue with Debian after migrating it to VMWare with the VMWare Converter |
| 07:08.44 | lane_ | There is a blog post telling me that I can correct the error using manual edits: http://mantraaz.wordpress.com/2012/10/06/vmware-p2v-conversion-grubinstaller-error-during-conversion-of-debian-linux-host/ |
| 07:08.48 | lane_ | That did not work for me. |
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| 07:09.18 | lane_ | There is also a topic about this on VMWare.com with different fixes that did not work for me: http://communities.vmware.com/message/2157953 |
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| 07:10.14 | lane_ | The VMWare channel thought I would be best suited building a recovery disk to rebuild the grub loader. I must be missing something because I tried the grub repair on the boot disk and it errors out. |
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| 07:55.39 | jelly-home | lane_: how does grub fail exactly? Any messages? Did you try running grub-install again? Boot a livecd (or rescue disk), mount your debian install, bind-mount /dev, /proc and /sys inside the chroot, chroot into it and run grub-install /dev/sda |
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| 07:56.01 | lane_ | Grub didn't fail, the vmware converter failed to copy the grub installation along. |
| 07:56.23 | lane_ | I tried to use the repair boot feature of the debian disk to fix the issue but to no resolve because the drives unique id's had changed in the conversion |
| 07:56.39 | lane_ | so fsck threw a fit on first boot and wouldn't let me continue |
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| 07:57.40 | jelly-home | lane_: it ought to have left you in a root shell after fsck failed |
| 07:57.54 | lane_ | jelly-home: it did leave me in the root shell |
| 07:58.02 | lane_ | I checked the fstab file |
| 07:58.10 | lane_ | everything was edited to fit the new UUID |
| 07:58.14 | lane_ | that didn't make any difference |
| 07:58.35 | lane_ | on the advice of the vmware channel I am attempting to rsync the data over without using the vmware converter |
| 07:58.38 | jelly-home | lane_: any following boots still fail at fsck time? |
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| 07:58.52 | lane_ | yes |
| 07:59.01 | lane_ | all reboots still failed exactly the same way |
| 07:59.04 | jelly-home | lane_: do you have a screenshot of that failure? |
| 07:59.15 | lane_ | no |
| 07:59.31 | lane_ | I didn't get an answer here so I moved on |
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| 07:59.43 | jelly-home | alright then |
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| 08:03.40 | jaggz | anyone here use dell's omsa in lenny? |
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| 08:06.04 | jaggz | when you have a deb line in apt/sources, how do you determine what components the repository provides? |
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| 08:08.57 | jaggz | I'm remote, and the server is lenny, and something in it might be dying .. I'm hesitant to upgrade the distribution |
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| 08:18.47 | jaggz | I'm also getting this: http://archive.debian.org lenny/updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1356982504 |
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| 08:19.25 | jaggz | although my keyring is supposedly proper at 2010.08.28 |
| 08:19.36 | Leoneof | hey, i have problem in xfce, key shortcuts for kde apps doesn't work |
| 08:19.38 | jaggz | someone else with the same issue: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/01/msg01134.html |
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| 08:20.34 | ChrisH | jaggz: !lenny |
| 08:20.38 | ChrisH | !lenny |
| 08:20.38 | dpkg | Lenny is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0, released on February 15th, 2009. Lenny security support ended on 2012-02-06, this release is no longer supported. Lenny users should upgrade to Squeeze, ask me about <lenny->squeeze>. Removed from the mirrors (2012-03-25), ask me about <lenny sources.list>. For old Lenny ISOs, ask me about <lenny iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120209 |
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| 08:21.17 | jaggz | I know, I'm sorry.. family illness and many other things have prevented me from being able to handle this for a long time |
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| 08:22.28 | ChrisH | jaggz: The bot knows about your question on determing what is from which repo, but I was not able to figure out what the keyword is. start using /msg dpkg lenny and try to find out. I assume chaning the lenny sources to archive is the first step to get rid of this KEYEXP message |
| 08:22.52 | jaggz | yeah I did that a long time ago |
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| 08:23.58 | pmo | a friend was running lenny, but 3 weeks ago she got hacked.. once she logged back in, there was a not in the banner saying "i fixed it for you" |
| 08:24.08 | pmo | note* |
| 08:25.12 | jaggz | haha .. :/ |
| 08:25.34 | pmo | i didnt belive it before i saw it with my own eyes |
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| 08:27.12 | jaggz | back in the day .. using slackware as my first dist.. I found a strange username on my system.. I (y)talk'ed the person and we spoke for a while and he informed me the bind version I was using was buggy -- he hacked in using it.. then he walked me through going to the official bind site and we got a new one and compiled/installed it together |
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| 08:27.42 | pmo | friendly hehe |
| 08:28.23 | jaggz | of course, I wasn't rude to him and tried to be respectful .. and play my cards right.. and he ended up being pretty cool |
| 08:28.32 | jaggz | pretty darned cool |
| 08:29.19 | jelly-home | evil crackers fixing bugs in your systems |
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| 08:29.36 | pmo | i never got hacked (to my knowledge) myself |
| 08:29.39 | pmo | too paranoid |
| 08:29.48 | jaggz | I found a rootkit once |
| 08:29.54 | jaggz | on my system |
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| 08:30.22 | jaggz | so.. apparently I'm trying to find some repository with svradmin-* packages |
| 08:30.52 | wols_ | don't sound like debian packages |
| 08:31.12 | jaggz | this server's having some problems and I don't have the means to get to the colo facility to do a distribution upgrade .. |
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| 08:31.32 | jaggz | and I apparently got sick with some cold or something so I feel awful too.. and have caregiving duties for a family member .. |
| 08:31.38 | pmo | jaggz, its an sh |
| 08:31.39 | jaggz | woe is me |
| 08:31.50 | jaggz | pmo, sh? |
| 08:32.06 | jaggz | wols, yeah, dell packages |
| 08:32.06 | wols_ | jaggz: http://linux.dell.com/repo/community/deb/ ? |
| 08:32.21 | wols_ | ubuntu, but I doubt they have debian specific stuff |
| 08:32.25 | jaggz | I'm following those instructions.. trying 6.5 .. |
| 08:32.45 | jaggz | also trying this guy's instructions on 6.5 with lenny: http://www.gloriousoblivion.org/2011/03/running-dell-omsa-65-under-debian-lenny.html |
| 08:33.16 | jaggz | I don't know why he's doing all this chroot stuff |
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| 08:34.13 | wols_ | he runs squeeze in a chroot and he probably needs it since 6.5 needs various squeeze libs |
| 08:34.23 | pmo | hehe googled around |
| 08:34.28 | pmo | seems very old |
| 08:34.29 | pmo | http://linux.dell.com/repo/community/deb/latest/ |
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| 08:35.11 | jaggz | yeah.. I need any version of the dell utils.. so I can run the hardware test software |
| 08:35.37 | jaggz | that being, I think, the primary concern at the moment. guy at colo facility says he hears a clicking from the psu's |
| 08:36.03 | jelly-home | jaggz: if you have enough ram, find the OS those packages work well on, and boot that livecd |
| 08:36.29 | jaggz | I'm remote |
| 08:36.37 | jelly-home | so? |
| 08:36.59 | jelly-home | don't dell servers have remote management and boot off iso images? |
| 08:37.24 | jelly-home | "DRAC" or "iDRAC" should have that functionality |
| 08:37.43 | jaggz | I don't think I have any remote management capabilities.. an 8 year old poweredge? |
| 08:38.18 | jelly-home | our 9 year old hp proliants did have it, dunno about poweredges |
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| 08:54.47 | jeredepp | hi everyone, if i copy the line of a user in /etc/shadow into another machine, will it be the same password or is it somehow encrypted with additional hardware info? |
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| 08:59.23 | ChrisH | jeredepp: it will be the same PW |
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| 09:06.41 | jeredepp | ChrisH: Thanks |
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| 09:12.02 | jaggz | should I update to squeeze or wheezy? |
| 09:12.10 | jelly-home | mmnicolas: if you can't do it via command line, use devilspie |
| 09:12.45 | jelly-home | jaggz: you can't skip releases, any upgrades have to be done in sequence anyway |
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| 09:12.54 | jaggz | thanks :) |
| 09:13.04 | ChrisH | jaggz: from Lenny you need to go to squeeze and from there you can go to wheezy |
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| 09:13.54 | jaggz | I wonder if I'll break my mail server configs and stuff :) |
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| 09:16.00 | jelly-home | very likely. |
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| 09:33.27 | Guest1766 | Anybody with squeeze on android |
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| 09:34.14 | Armand | That makes no sense to me. O.o |
| 09:35.11 | Guest1766 | I have squeeze installed in galxy y samsung phone |
| 09:35.25 | Armand | So, not on Android then... ? |
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| 09:35.46 | Armand | Android = OS, Debian = OS. |
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| 09:36.07 | Armand | Indeedy.. |
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| 10:08.42 | binski | "With or without keyboards doing true productivity work like in MS Office is painful on Android. " |
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| 10:10.32 | mntzn | Hi, How do I properly pin package to come from a specific source? i.e I have dotdeb repos which has zabbix 2.0 and I need to install zabbix 1.8 from squeeze, however doing Package: zabbix-agent Pin: origin 'packages.dotdeb.org' Pin-Priority: -1 results in zabbix has no installation candidate if not previously installed |
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| 10:21.08 | wols_ | !tell mntzn about pinning |
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| 10:21.20 | wols_ | mntzn: and you shouldn't use dotdeb if you like your debian installation |
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| 10:21.37 | wols_ | mntzn: do your own backports if your must but don't use dotdeb |
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| 10:22.31 | mntzn | I don't have a choice in regards to using dotdeb or not |
| 10:22.45 | mntzn | what's wrong with dotdeb btw? |
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| 10:23.06 | mmnicolas | its not the way we do things |
| 10:23.06 | drAvanti | good day sirs |
| 10:23.13 | drAvanti | kindly can someone help me to clarify something: |
| 10:23.30 | themill | mntzn: they make crap packages, they're a moving target that's crap for servers and they don't care about being able to upgrade |
| 10:23.41 | mmnicolas | mntzn: and it prevents anyone with common sense from helping you |
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| 10:24.27 | drAvanti | if I do rcconf, I see services listed as ON /OFF. and then if I do ps aux | grep service name, I still see a service that is listed as OFF in rcconf. I suppose rcconf is to let me know what is to be started at boot and what isnt, while ps aux is to tell me the services currently started |
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| 10:25.23 | mmnicolas | drAvanti: is it still launched at startup ? |
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| 10:26.47 | drAvanti | mmnicolas: for ex: I have a service that is OFF in rcconf but if I do ps aux, it gives me a result, listing the service, meanwhile, I havent manually started it |
| 10:27.21 | mmnicolas | well.. did you just turn it off ? did you reboot ? was it on ? |
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| 10:27.57 | mmnicolas | reboot, see if it gets turned on |
| 10:27.59 | themill | drAvanti: tools like rcconf are changing your *next* boot. |
| 10:28.05 | drAvanti | mnicolas: yes, I turned if off, rebooted the pc, the the pc booted and I logged in, did rcconf and it shows off, but in ps aux, its listed as running |
| 10:28.26 | mmnicolas | that is different, what is the service |
| 10:28.37 | drAvanti | mmnicolas: webmin |
| 10:28.45 | mntzn | mmnicolas: thanks for the heads up regarding dotdeb |
| 10:28.57 | drAvanti | its OFF in rcconf, but shows this with ps aux: root 5175 0.0 0.0 3304 772 pts/1 S+ 02:28 0:00 grep webmin |
| 10:29.22 | mntzn | so there is no way around this dotdeb mess? |
| 10:29.25 | mmnicolas | ..you're kidding me right |
| 10:29.27 | drAvanti | mmnicolas: does this mean webmin is running? |
| 10:29.37 | mmnicolas | drAvanti: this is you grepping for it |
| 10:29.53 | drAvanti | mmnicolas: yes, im grepping for it coz the list is long |
| 10:30.06 | drAvanti | mmnicolas: or pls explain, theres something I dont undrstand |
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| 10:30.39 | mmnicolas | yes. the result you have is the process of you just running "grep webmin" at the end of ps aux |
| 10:31.07 | mmnicolas | you ran ps aux | grep webmin |
| 10:31.10 | drAvanti | mmnicolas: ok, which means webmin is running |
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| 10:31.28 | mmnicolas | why?? |
| 10:31.37 | mmnicolas | no it does not, on the contrary |
| 10:32.01 | drAvanti | mmnicolas: you mean webmin isnt running even though its listed in ps aux? |
| 10:32.14 | mmnicolas | its not listed in ps aux |
| 10:32.15 | johskar | from what I can see it only return the 'grep webmin' process so wemin can't be running |
| 10:32.35 | mmnicolas | what is listed in ps aux is you grepping for webmin |
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| 10:32.56 | mmnicolas | grepception |
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| 10:33.36 | drAvanti | mmnicolas: ok, so what does that mean. I thought that if a service is running and I ps aux grep it, if its running, I should get a result and if its not running, I shouldnt get any? |
| 10:33.40 | gnarface | how do i disable overscan in mplayer again? |
| 10:34.18 | mmnicolas | drAvanti: no, you would get at least two results, the actual process and you grepping for it |
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| 10:34.57 | drAvanti | mmnicolas: ok, but I only got one result. is this the process or just the grep? root 5175 0.0 0.0 3304 772 pts/1 S+ 02:28 0:00 grep webmin |
| 10:35.05 | drAvanti | and how do I identify which is the process |
| 10:35.31 | mmnicolas | drAvanti: you just read it, you can see "grep webmin" is the command you just typed |
| 10:35.48 | drAvanti | mmnicolas: yes |
| 10:36.16 | mmnicolas | so why would you think it is the webmin service |
| 10:37.00 | drAvanti | mmnicolas: I dont understand the interpretation, thats why im asking. I use to think that once ps aux produces a result, that means the service is running |
| 10:37.46 | mmnicolas | ps aux lists all the processes, if while listings theses processes you parses them through another program, that parsing program, in this case, grep is now part of that list |
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| 10:38.44 | drAvanti | mmnicolas: ok, so if its showing "grep servicename" its not a process? |
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| 10:39.01 | mmnicolas | its a process |
| 10:39.27 | mmnicolas | or it wouldnt be listed, but its not a service, its the command you just typed |
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| 10:40.04 | drAvanti | mmnicolas: ok. its not a service- u mean its not rrunning? |
| 10:40.33 | mmnicolas | its not a process of the service more precisely |
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| 10:40.59 | mmnicolas | its not webmin its grep |
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| 10:42.00 | drAvanti | mmnicolas: ok, now I did ps aux grep terminal. I have 4 results: 1) grep terminal 2) gnome-terminal 3) and 4) x-terminal emulators |
| 10:42.05 | mmnicolas | ps aux | grep webmin doesn't mean: "checking if webmin is running", it means, "checking for occurences of the word "webmin" through the process list" |
| 10:42.20 | drAvanti | so from this results, which tells me that terminal is running. |
| 10:42.21 | Trewas | gnarface: mplayer doesn't care about overscan, but probably some -vf filter will work if your TV etc needs something special |
| 10:42.35 | gnarface | Trewas: could it be ivtv? |
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| 10:42.44 | gnarface | Trewas: (the capture card) |
| 10:43.02 | drAvanti | mmnicolas: ok, I now get ur explanation. But then, how do I check if a process is running |
| 10:43.39 | Trewas | gnarface: I don't what your actual problem is, black borders around captured video? |
| 10:44.18 | mmnicolas | drAvanti: you can rely on its startup scripts, see /etc/init.d, try "service cron status" for example |
| 10:45.07 | drAvanti | mmnicolas: ok |
| 10:45.33 | gnarface | Trewas: opposite problem; the signal i'm mplaying from my capture card is being cut off on the edges. i was sure its not the source, so i assumed it was mplayer but it could be the capture card's driver too, in theory |
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| 10:46.53 | drAvanti | mmnicolas: but you know not every service uses the service service-name status command. For ex: how do I check if a network interface is up? service ifconfig eth0 up? says unrecognized service |
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| 10:47.05 | Trewas | gnarface: unlikely that mplayer would crop it automatically, maybe the capture card does some automatic overscan compensation to cut the borders out (just like all TVs do) |
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| 10:48.00 | drAvanti | mmnicolas: and kindly, is "a service" in linux the same as in windows? My understanding is that a service is a process that startsup at boot |
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| 10:50.55 | qdb | iceweasel (debian's firefox) 10 0 12 crashes on saving http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqFpCLwFdqs , my profile and also fresh profile . please check with your firefox or iceweasel . |
| 10:51.08 | viasanctus | I have multiple options for a vps install, debian-40r1 to debian 6.0.5 and a simple "debian-stable" |
| 10:51.35 | viasanctus | should i take the 6.0.5 ? |
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| 10:52.42 | qdb | seems all videos crash . i ll try restart system |
| 10:52.58 | qdb | no just ll try clear cache |
| 10:53.28 | themill | viasanctus: yes. "stable" should also be 6.0, but if someone is offering 4.0r1 then that's not a great sign that they're keeping up with the times. |
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| 10:53.42 | themill | viasanctus: (also not a great sign that they have sufficient clue that you'd want to give them money, I have to say) |
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| 10:54.46 | qdb | i mean linux memory cache |
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| 10:55.03 | viasanctus | the supplier offers centOS, Fedora, FreeBS, Debian, Gentoo, OpenSuse and Ubuntu |
| 10:55.27 | viasanctus | They offer a shitload of previous releases |
| 10:55.37 | viasanctus | even a memtest iso |
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| 10:56.08 | qdb | fixed. " sync;echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches " clears cache |
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| 10:56.18 | superlinux | hi. the [hg] command in [ hg clone https://code.google.com/p/android-scripting/ ] refers to whicb debian linux pkg? |
| 10:56.35 | viasanctus | I think I'll go for the debian |
| 10:57.16 | themill | superlinux: mercurial |
| 10:57.20 | superlinux | ok |
| 10:57.25 | superlinux | thanks |
| 10:57.42 | r4co0n | Greetings. I want my acer laptop to be able to adjust display brightness. Running a fresh install of wheezy, default install. The brightness bar appears, so the key is catched, but apparently the display brightness cant be adjusted. Neither works trough brightness config in gnome. Nevertheless, it's possible to turn the display off by key. Any idea what I could do to fix this? |
| 10:57.55 | themill | superlinux: apt-file is your friend; aptitude install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search bin/hg |
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| 11:05.13 | ChrisH | r4co0n: a guess only: did you check acerhk-source ? |
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| 11:06.23 | drAvanti | hello osirs |
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| 11:08.36 | drAvanti | is it possible to fix applications to open on particular portions of my screen? for ex: if I want terminal to always be located and sized to a 50% when launched at the upper right? |
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| 11:11.14 | ronny | hi |
| 11:11.41 | r4co0n | ChrisH, i did that. Unfortunately, acerhk-source is only part of squeeze and sid for now, as module-assistant can no longer include it (or sth like that). Having the brightness-overlay appear on hitting the key would suggest that this isn't my problem afaics. |
| 11:11.57 | ronny | how would i install the oracle jdk on a debian, it seems they dont supply the bin files anymore used for the deb building tool |
| 11:13.16 | themill | ronny: apparently wheezy's java-package can build you nice .debs from the downloadable from oracle |
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| 11:13.49 | gena2x | r4co0n: sounds like a kernel issue. |
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| 11:14.08 | babilen | ronny: Given that OpenJDK is the reference implementation for 7 I would strongly recommend using that, but you should be able to use java-package to build a Debian package from the Oracle one. |
| 11:14.09 | gena2x | r4co0n, try other kernel (newer) |
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| 11:15.29 | ronny | babilen, the software i want to use isnt supported/broken on openjdk |
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| 11:16.29 | r4co0n | gena2x, I am running the newest available kernel from debian repo. are there newer kernels prebuilt officialy for debian available? running 3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 11:16.42 | babilen | ronny: Well, then the software you want to use is buggy (and should be fixed, as it would also break on IBM's JDK for example) - Either way, it shouldn't be too hard to get Oracle's JDK working on wheezy. |
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| 11:17.30 | ChrisH | ronny: If it does not work with OpenJDK (had that quit some times) you need to download java from oracle.com. I google for download java and make sure to get the Java 6. Keep in mind you will only get Updates for Java 6 until end of Debruasry 2013 |
| 11:17.45 | ChrisH | ronny: s/Debruasry/February |
| 11:18.10 | babilen | ronny: You might want to make whoever implemented that buggy software aware of http://jdk7.java.net/java-se-7-ri/ |
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| 11:18.32 | r4co0n | gena2x, thing is, this isn't a computer for my personal use, so it should be kinda stable. I installed testing just to not have to dist-upgrade again in a few weeks/months, as recommended on debian-user-ml. |
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| 11:21.44 | ronny | babilen, ok, can try to do later |
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| 11:30.48 | ronny | hmm, why the heck is the default java still the openjdk one ? |
| 11:31.29 | r4co0n | ronny, update-alternatives? |
| 11:31.46 | ronny | r4co0n, on install it reported updating those, im confused |
| 11:31.59 | babilen | dpkg: tell ronny -about update-java-alternatives |
| 11:32.18 | r4co0n | ronny, wiki.debian.org/JavaPackage in the last paragraph (Configuration). |
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| 11:33.09 | ronny | works now, thanks |
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| 11:59.35 | mmnicolas | drAvanti: this is still debatable AFAIK |
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| 12:01.10 | mmnicolas | drAvanti: they do not all have that "status" command available |
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| 12:10.29 | Devastator | do I need a chipset with raid support to have raid on linux? From what I've read so far, I think no |
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| 12:10.44 | petemc | Devastator: not for software raid |
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| 12:13.07 | mmnicolas | its this or that |
| 12:13.52 | mmnicolas | apparently, using the software raid in linux is often preferred to using the hardware raid provided in most consumer boards |
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| 12:16.01 | Devastator | petemc, mmnicolas many thanks! |
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| 12:17.45 | gena2x | r4co0n: if your key is detected, it seems that commands to change brightness do not work in kernel |
| 12:17.51 | drAvanti | hello sirs |
| 12:18.30 | gena2x | r4co0n, you should investigate this, try to find out how brightness actually should be changed, most probably this is /sys interface |
| 12:19.00 | drAvanti | can someone pls explain to me how to replicate a debian installation. For ex: I have a host PC on which debian is installed. Can I replicate from a host into a vbox instance? |
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| 12:19.28 | gena2x | r4co0n, and do it manually. it this wouldn't work, file the bug. you at least will know there is actual problem. |
| 12:19.35 | Zeeflo | question what does this mean: fontconfig: Selected font is not the requested one: 'DejaVu Sans' != 'Arial' |
| 12:19.45 | gena2x | *if |
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| 12:20.53 | redguy | why mdadm might not notice that a drive has failed? http://pastie.org/5985012 |
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| 12:27.02 | ChrisH | redguy: did you force some IO via /dev/md ? |
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| 12:31.33 | redguy | ChrisH: what do you mean by "forcing IO" ? Writing on md0 has been failinig with I/O errors, I also have tried to run xfs_check /dev/md0. |
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| 12:32.09 | ChrisH | redguy: the paste only showed some smartctl stuff |
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| 12:34.21 | ChrisH | redguy: is the device mounted? I assume not. What does xfs_check show? Whts in dmesg? |
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| 12:37.02 | redguy | ChrisH: no, the paste also contains dmesg | tail and cat /dev/md0 |
| 12:37.26 | redguy | ChrisH: I unmounted it manually, and xfs_check segfaults |
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| 12:38.41 | redguy | to me it seems that /dev/sdf failed: No such device or address means that the devide /dev/sdf disappeared from the system, but mdadm did not notice this? |
| 12:39.06 | ChrisH | redguy: I would try dd if=/dev/md0 of=/dev/null bs=1024k to force md to detect the disk is gone. |
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| 12:40.56 | juliohm | Good day, i'm having some trouble with my touchpad, it's not recognized by Kubuntu 12.10 i think because Xorg is misfitting it. Could anyone help me with this issue? It's being identified as PS/2 Generic Mouse. |
| 12:41.20 | juliohm | I'm trying to follow this instructions: http://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad |
| 12:41.50 | juliohm | But none of Synaptics, ALPS, Elantech fit to my case |
| 12:41.52 | ChrisH | dpkg: juliohm about kubuntu |
| 12:41.52 | dpkg | ChrisH: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 12:42.02 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell juliohm about kubuntu |
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| 12:42.24 | judgen | i have debian installed on my powerbook but in X i have problems with my mouse beeing laggy and nut stuttery laggy but rather slower than on osx and trails what hapens on the touchpad. |
| 12:42.28 | judgen | any fix for that? |
| 12:43.09 | Zeeflo | Any ideas? fontconfig: Selected font is not the requested one: 'DejaVu Sans' != 'Arial'its/s dup=1 drop=0 |
| 12:43.10 | juliohm | ChrisH, the touchpad is working, only the scroll is not working |
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| 12:44.00 | ChrisH | juliohm: On my Debian I needed to switch that on in KDE Settings. |
| 12:44.48 | redguy | ChrisH: http://pastie.org/5985460 |
| 12:44.59 | redguy | mdadm insists taht everything is OK |
| 12:45.28 | juliohm | ChrisH, yes, but here i can't access the configs in KDE settings, and at every start up, an error message shows saying the Touchpad was not found. |
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| 12:46.33 | ChrisH | juliohm: but you are running kubuntu, aren't you? Offline for lunch |
| 12:46.49 | judgen | an external mouse does not have this problem, so i am going to guess it is an appletouch issue |
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| 12:49.59 | juliohm | ChrisH, yes, running Kubuntu, wondering if some module is being wrongly loaded |
| 12:50.39 | wols_ | juliohm: we don't care about kubuntu modules |
| 12:51.07 | babilen | juliohm: You want #ubuntu or #kubuntu not #debian |
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| 12:55.06 | juliohm | but modules differ from Kubuntu, Debian? I was thinking in Kernel level here |
| 12:55.58 | juliohm | This issue is not related to a particular distribution, and you know people in #ubuntu are in general less experienced |
| 12:56.16 | Zeeflo | switch to Debian then? |
| 12:56.48 | jerryzhou | lost debian users here |
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| 12:57.45 | Zeeflo | i dont even know why some would use kubuntu/ubuntu etc when they might as well just use the distro theyre built on.. |
| 12:58.08 | babilen | dpkg: tell juliohm -about based on debian |
| 12:58.09 | Zeeflo | imho those distros was just made by people who wanted to make money... |
| 12:58.39 | babilen | juliohm: We do not support Kubuntu here for a number of technical /and/ social reasons. Use Debian is you want support in #debian, please. |
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| 13:00.46 | juliohm | This is really nonsense, but thanks anyways. |
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| 13:04.51 | stemid | is it possible to set global MAILTO and PATH environment for anacron? |
| 13:05.09 | stemid | in /etc/crontab maybe? not sure if that would affect /etc/cron.d/ files and user specific |
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| 13:06.33 | et | hi. how do i find out which packages have 'bpo' in their version name? dpkg-query -l and grep seems insufficient since the version name can be cut off |
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| 13:08.51 | et | ah, i can use --showformat and -W |
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| 13:11.50 | themill | dpkg: tell et about bpo list |
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| 13:13.03 | ghost75 | how can see which downgrade versions are available ? |
| 13:13.33 | et | well, i already took bpo out of sources.list to prevent further mistakes |
| 13:14.59 | jhutchins_wk | et: Did you have a problem with a backport package? |
| 13:15.14 | ghost75 | is squeeze the oldest available branch on debian.org? |
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| 13:17.29 | et | jhutchins_wk: it's just that i didn't want to use backports in the first place, and the hoster put the backports line into sources.list |
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| 13:17.49 | themill | et: mistakes? You only install packages from bpo if you explicitly ask for them. anyway, aptitude search ~Vbpo |
| 13:18.01 | jhutchins_wk | et: Backports won't install unless you tell them to. |
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| 13:18.24 | jhutchins_wk | et: You could read the documentation on http://backports.debian.org about how it works. |
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| 13:18.40 | et | jhutchins_wk: if there is no non-backport of that name, that's not true |
| 13:18.49 | ChrisH | ghost75: for educational purpose check http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/ |
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| 13:20.26 | ghost75 | thx i was somewhere else on ftp |
| 13:20.46 | et | jhutchins_wk: there is a reason i asked that question ;) |
| 13:22.09 | jhutchins_wk | et: If there is a backport on your system somebody installed it manually. I would find out why before you reomve it, it may be necessary to support some hardware and you could loose use of the system if you mess with it. |
| 13:22.31 | ghost75 | i have error like this: usb 2-2: usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd saned rqt 64 rq 12 len 1 ret -71 |
| 13:22.39 | ghost75 | do you think its from kernel or libsane itself? |
| 13:23.08 | et | jhutchins_wk: stop acting condescending |
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| 13:27.31 | et | jhutchins_wk: install a fresh squeeze, put backports in sources.list, install dovecot-imapd, try to install dovecot-sieve, it tries to fetch the one from bpo because there is no package by that name in squeeze and so it creates a conflict |
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| 13:28.45 | et | i merely wanted to make sure that this didn't happen with another package where there was no conflict |
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| 13:34.30 | `Z` | hi |
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| 13:35.10 | `Z` | I'm trying to make JAVA applet works with chromium on debian wheezy, anyone can help please ? |
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| 13:37.32 | ChrisH | `Z`: you need to tell more. |
| 13:37.42 | `Z` | ok, what do you want to know ? |
| 13:38.05 | ChrisH | did you read what dpkg told you? |
| 13:38.12 | `Z` | reading... |
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| 13:41.02 | `Z` | I have a problem with JAVA applets, on Google Chromium; i'm running Debian 7.0, When I try to launch an applet in my web browser (google chromium), I get "install Java", I already installed all the java-* things possible with apt-get, tried to compile using the source, and still doesn't works, I also tried to look for the "libnpjp2.so" in /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk/lib/amd64/; but it doesn't exists, so I could not copy it in /usr/lib/chromium/plugins |
| 13:41.40 | `Z` | is it ok ? (sorry for my poor english by the way, I am french) |
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| 13:43.19 | ChrisH | `Z`: The description is OK. The nick makes more trouble on my german keyboard. If you do about:Plugins in chromium, does it show any Java plugin? |
| 13:43.38 | `Z` | nop |
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| 13:44.33 | Zhuge_ | ok, this nick should be easier to use for you |
| 13:46.05 | ChrisH | Zhuge_: thanks. Did you restart chromium after installing the packages? |
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| 13:46.40 | Zhuge_ | yes, I did it again right now, and it didn't change |
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| 13:48.31 | ChrisH | Zhuge_: I know this does not help you. On my squeeze chromium shows me this java plugin: sun-java6-bin: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.26/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so |
| 13:49.52 | Zhuge_ | hum I don't have "java-6-sun-x" |
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| 13:50.13 | Zhuge_ | ls in /usr/lib/jvm shows: default-java java-1.6.0-openjdk-amd64 java-1.7.0-openjdk-amd64 java-6-openjdk-amd64 java-6-openjdk-common java-7-openjdk-amd64 java-7-openjdk-common |
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| 13:51.06 | Zhuge_ | maybe I don't have the good apt source in my .list |
| 13:52.17 | Zhuge_ | well actually, I do |
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| 13:54.45 | ChrisH | Zhuge_: on my office desktop its icedtea-6-plugin:amd64: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/IcedTeaPlugin.so |
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| 13:55.04 | Zhuge_ | ha, ok, I will try this ChrisH |
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| 13:58.02 | Zhuge_ | !!! |
| 13:58.02 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
| 13:58.14 | Zhuge_ | works ! thanks a lot ChrisH :) |
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| 13:58.47 | Zhuge_ | so, the solution is : apt-get install icedtea-plugin |
| 13:58.55 | ChrisH | Zhuge_: Your're welcome.. A bientot. |
| 13:59.00 | Zhuge_ | ;) |
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| 15:06.55 | ldnblk | is there any one on channel that has configured compiz and has the 3d cube working in 6.0.6 that can assist me in configuring it on my machine ? |
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| 15:15.10 | yeehi | Does anybody know a good fitness program? For example calories eaten, burned, suggestions for different weight machines - that sort of thing...? |
| 15:16.28 | GTAXL-iPod | On Debain?? |
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| 15:16.55 | Zoup | is there anyway to prevent daemons from starting during bootstrap? |
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| 15:20.33 | jhutchins_wk | Zoup: You can use update-rc.d to configure it, or install rcconf or chkconfig |
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| 15:20.55 | Zoup | jhutchins_wk: thanks for answer, i meant 'during' debootstraping |
| 15:21.15 | Zoup | like some environment variable, etc |
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| 15:22.40 | jhutchins_wk | Zoup: daemons don't start during debbootstrap. |
| 15:22.59 | Zoup | jhutchins_wk: believe me, they do, try including mysql-server |
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| 15:24.09 | jhutchins_wk | Zoup: They may be enabled to start when the target system is started. You can turn them off before you boot them. |
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| 15:25.37 | Zoup | jhutchins_wk: true, but my problem is debootstrap time, not boottime. see, i have this system that has already mysql running, if i try to include mysql-server in chroot, it tries to start it to create cluster data, which wont happen because port is already in use by "outside the chroot" mysql server |
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| 15:26.57 | holyfoot_ | Hi, i have a question about deb packages. |
| 15:26.58 | holyfoot_ | Two companies (that's Oracle and MariaDB) provide same package - libmysqlclient18 |
| 15:26.58 | holyfoot_ | as a part of their MySQL and MariaDB projects respectively. |
| 15:26.58 | holyfoot_ | Debian considers one of libmysqlclient18-s to be better than the other, so |
| 15:26.58 | holyfoot_ | if for instance libmysqlclient18-oracle is 'later' and the MariaDB is installed |
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| 15:31.50 | Zoup | maybe creating /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d with exit code of 101 will fix this problem |
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| 15:32.32 | themill | Zoup: yes, that's pretty common inside chroots. you can /msg dpkg policy-rc.d |
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| 15:33.11 | Zoup | themill: thanks as always helpful themill, you helped me a lot during years :) |
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| 15:33.28 | zetheroo | is there anyone out there who has successfully installed a newer version of Qemu than 1.1.2 under Debian? |
| 15:33.57 | themill | actually, http://ircbots.debian.net/scripts/policy-rc.d-forbid-all would be sufficient (which as you can see is very very minimal... you could filter for invocations of mysql only if you wanted. |
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| 15:36.26 | holyfoot_ | Hi, i have a question about deb packages. Have put it here to avoind flooding. http://pastebin.com/AtiBXGwQ |
| 15:36.37 | somiaj | zetheroo: looks like version 1.3 is now in sid. You could try to backport it to squeeze. |
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| 15:37.03 | Zoup | holyfoot_: i would suggest to run one of them inside chroot |
| 15:37.14 | somiaj | holyfoot_: /msg dpkg hold |
| 15:37.27 | zetheroo | we have Wheezy running here and am only getting 1.1.2 |
| 15:37.29 | somiaj | holyfoot_: you could set the package on hold and apt will just not upgrade it automatically |
| 15:37.40 | somiaj | zetheroo: of course, wheezy is frozen and wont get newer versions |
| 15:38.05 | somiaj | zetheroo: so backport the sid version to wheezy (note right now wheezy/sid are somewhat close so you could almost just install the sid package, but in general this is a bad idea and you should backport) |
| 15:39.59 | themill | holyfoot_: btw, you could ask that question in one line without hitting enter every few words and then it would be a flood... If the packages declare a Conflicts or Breaks against each other then they can't be installed at thesame time. |
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| 15:40.17 | themill | holyfoot_: the output of "apt-cache show $packagename" for each of those packages would be interesting to see |
| 15:40.25 | drAvanti | good day all |
| 15:42.24 | ksuhku | good evening drAvanti! |
| 15:42.32 | drAvanti | hello all, what editors can I use in a headless debian. Vi seems quite hard for me to understand |
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| 15:42.50 | holyfoot_ | themill, what if only one of the packages decleres a Conflicts or Breaks with the other? |
| 15:43.07 | somiaj | drAvanti: nano is installed by default on most debian systems |
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| 15:43.34 | themill | holyfoot_: one conflict is one too many |
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| 15:44.21 | drAvanti | somiaj - ok, thanks |
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| 15:45.55 | holyfoot_ | themill, do you mean they can be installed at the same time with one Conflicts? |
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| 15:48.07 | holyfoot_ | themill, here are the 'apt-cache show' outputs, if you still care: http://pastebin.com/NC522TiG |
| 15:48.22 | drAvanti | 2) I have debian(desktop) installed on my PC; and debian(webserver) installed in the vbox. I would like to assign a static ip to the vbox instance so I can access it via my PC. presently, eth0 shows dhcp is enabled. Is what I want to do possible? |
| 15:49.05 | themill | holyfoot_: that's not the packages you were talking about earlier |
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| 15:50.02 | foxtrot9 | does debian squeeze have support for SSDs? |
| 15:50.19 | Zhuge_ | drAvanti, depends on you ISP, does it give you a static ip address |
| 15:50.32 | Zhuge_ | oh wait |
| 15:50.36 | Zhuge_ | you meant locally |
| 15:50.37 | Zhuge_ | sorry |
| 15:50.43 | Zoup | foxtrot9: anything has support for SSD, what you are asking might be is its optimized for ssd? |
| 15:50.45 | drAvanti | Zhuge_ I have one on the PC (static) |
| 15:50.54 | Zhuge_ | just use ifconfig |
| 15:51.02 | Zhuge_ | you can configure the ip address |
| 15:51.02 | foxtrot9 | Zoup, yes i mean optimized |
| 15:51.09 | somiaj | foxtrot9: ssd's are just a sata drive, so yes debian squeeze supports sata drives. |
| 15:51.10 | zetheroo | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:51.12 | zetheroo | ? |
| 15:51.12 | drAvanti | but the one on the vbox is coming via dhcp. I want to make it static, so I can use the webserver as if it was remotely |
| 15:51.18 | somiaj | zetheroo: /msg dpkg ssbp |
| 15:51.32 | somiaj | zetheroo: that would be the proper way, you have to recompile the packages to fit the wheezy libs |
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| 15:51.47 | somiaj | drAvanti: so set up the vbox device to have a static ip |
| 15:52.01 | somiaj | drAvanti: provided the bridge is set up correctly it will work just like it did with dhcp |
| 15:52.37 | Zoup | foxtrot9: afaik no, best filesystems for ssd are log based ones, as far as i know DI doesn't support them in the installer |
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| 15:53.20 | foxtrot9 | Zoup, somiaj, The SSDs need to be setup along the 1MB/2048 sector partition alignment correct? |
| 15:53.35 | foxtrot9 | or does debain not care about this? |
| 15:54.24 | Zoup | foxtrot9: i don't think DI does anything to try to detect if disk is SSD to do anykind of optimization on that |
| 15:54.26 | zykotick9 | foxtrot9: have you seen http://wiki.debian.org/SSDoptimization |
| 15:54.35 | holyfoot_ | themill, then see thhis http://pastebin.com/tgsdcgNL |
| 15:54.39 | Zoup | foxtrot9: its an filesystem issue, not whole oprating system |
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| 15:55.36 | somiaj | foxtrot9: for the most part it will work. There is some contraversity weither atime and various writes to the ext3/4 filesystem shorten the lifespan. But it will install and work. |
| 15:56.04 | foxtrot9 | somiaj, so ext3 and ext4 will support TRIM? |
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| 15:57.11 | zykotick9 | foxtrot9: (version 2, as version 1 didn't work) please consult http://wiki.debian.org/SSDoptimization |
| 15:58.12 | themill | holyfoot_: so one of those packages is from debian the other from mariadb. They don't actually conflict (but they probably should). |
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| 16:01.28 | jim8888 | hi, does someone know how to list the partition sizes of a disk in MiB (not MB)? have tried fdisk, cfdisk, parted, gparted |
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| 16:02.54 | geggam | df -h |
| 16:02.57 | geggam | o wait |
| 16:03.08 | geggam | df should be able to ? |
| 16:03.44 | max999 | parted can too |
| 16:03.45 | jim8888 | i tried with -h switch but i only get "G" |
| 16:04.11 | jim8888 | parted only has MB, not MiB ... |
| 16:04.43 | max999 | false |
| 16:04.48 | themill | you might like to verify what df is actually using from the man page |
| 16:04.49 | max999 | parted has kib, mib, gib, tib, kb, mb, gb, tb |
| 16:04.51 | max999 | read its manpage. |
| 16:04.59 | jim8888 | im looking at manpage now... |
| 16:05.14 | jim8888 | s" (sectors), "B" (bytes), "kB", "MB", "GB", "TB", "% |
| 16:05.21 | max999 | uri: http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/parted.html#unit |
| 16:05.30 | holyfoot_ | themill, so if i add Conflicts: libmysqlclient18 (>=5.5.28) do you think it'll solve the problem? Particularly if i do 'apt-get install mariadb-server', will Debian silently pick the mariadb's libmysqlclient18? |
| 16:06.01 | max999 | jim8888, so just enter parted on your device |
| 16:06.04 | themill | holyfoot_: if you want to use mariadb, then you'll need to uninstall all debian mysql packages and then install theirs. |
| 16:06.04 | max999 | then type: unit MiB |
| 16:06.09 | max999 | and then type: print |
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| 16:06.38 | jim8888 | ahh awesome that worked thanks! |
| 16:06.48 | jim8888 | looks like the man page for the parted on my system is out of date |
| 16:06.48 | max999 | np =) |
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| 16:07.01 | zetheroo | ? |
| 16:07.01 | max999 | did you read up on the unit command there? |
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| 16:07.31 | zetheroo | somiaj: I did not get any message from '/msg dpkg ssbp' |
| 16:08.04 | max999 | jim8888, you are actually right. i got parted 2.3 on my system, the way i described works for me too, but the manpage is not correct. |
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| 16:08.34 | zykotick9 | zerick: remove teh space before the / |
| 16:08.36 | jim8888 | yeah on the man page on my system it lists the unit command, but it only mentions MB not MiB. the manpage on the url you gave has all the units |
| 16:08.50 | max999 | the manpage on the url is for version 3.1 |
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| 16:08.56 | zykotick9 | zetheroo: see message above to TAB-failed nic. |
| 16:08.58 | max999 | i wonder why my parted is so outdated. |
| 16:09.36 | zetheroo | zykotick9: ok thanks |
| 16:09.37 | jim8888 | maybe its been superseded by gparted? :) |
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| 16:09.53 | holyfoot_ | themill, neither mysql nor maria is installed at the moment. But 'apt-get install mariadb-server' fails as the mysql's libmysqlclient18 is 'later' and Debian tries to install it, while mariadb-server Depends on the libmysqlclient18_mariadb. |
| 16:10.18 | max999 | jim8888, we were looked at the manual of gnuparted anyways, so i guess debian ported gnuparted 2.3 last .. or something .. i dont know :) |
| 16:10.38 | themill | holyfoot_: please pastebin the command you gave and the entire output. |
| 16:10.47 | themill | holyfoot_: also, try using aptitude instead of apt-get. |
| 16:11.18 | jim8888 | hmmm who knows!? anyway all is well and i managed to get the info i needed... thanks again for the tipp - im off now! |
| 16:11.23 | zetheroo | I cannot find any info on the web about there being qemu 1.3 in the sid backports |
| 16:11.38 | zetheroo | I am looking here http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=qemu |
| 16:11.48 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions qemu |
| 16:11.49 | judd | Package: qemu on i386 -- lenny: 0.9.1-10lenny1; lenny-security: 0.9.1-10lenny1; squeeze: 0.12.5+dfsg-3squeeze2; squeeze-proposed-updates: 0.12.5+dfsg-3squeeze3; squeeze-security: 0.12.5+dfsg-3squeeze3; squeeze-backports: 1.0+dfsg-3~bpo60+1+b1; squeeze-backports: 1.1.2+dfsg-2~bpo60+1; sid: 1.1.2+dfsg-5; wheezy: 1.1.2+dfsg-5; experimental: 1.3.0+dfsg-5exp |
| 16:12.09 | max999 | zetheroo, looks like its in experimental only :) |
| 16:13.03 | zetheroo | max999: so not a good idea to use ... ? |
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| 16:13.29 | max999 | zetheroo, is there a reason you need 1.3? |
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| 16:16.13 | holyfoot_ | themill, http://pastebin.com/V0ddX7JF |
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| 16:17.57 | themill | holyfoot_: so try telling aptitude to explicitly install their package instead. (libmysqlclient18=5.5.28-mariadb1~wheezy). But you really should take problems with 3rd party packages to the people who made them (#maria). |
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| 16:18.15 | themill | There's only so much we can do it forks don't bother to actually fork properly. |
| 16:18.46 | zetheroo | max999: I would be super happy just to have 1.1.3 ... but seems there is no way of updating from version 1.1.2 at all in Debian |
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| 16:21.04 | max999 | zetheroo, i dont know about this package in detail :) sorry |
| 16:21.20 | max999 | zetheroo, you could still add experimental to your repos to install it and remove it afterwards |
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| 16:21.41 | jhutchins_wk | !tell zetheroo about ssb |
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| 16:22.05 | holyfoot_ | themill, i'm the one from #maria trying to fix that :) And yes, the explicit installation of the libmysqlclient18 works. But it'd be good if an user doesn't need to do that. |
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| 16:22.19 | max999 | !tell max999 about ssb |
| 16:22.34 | themill | holyfoot_: the packages should have different names and shouldn't ship files in the same locations |
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| 16:22.53 | holyfoot_ | themill, i'm jest the one from (#maria) trying to fix that :) And yes, the explicit installation of the libmysqlclient18 works. But it'd be good if an user doesn't need to do that. |
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| 16:26.03 | holyfoot_ | themill, in this case mysql and mariadb provide same libraries and both supposed to satisfy Depends: of other packages that use libmysqlclient's API. |
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| 16:29.10 | themill | holyfoot_: Are they *really* ABI compatible? |
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| 16:31.12 | Achylles | I had some problems with nvidia driver. I got to install it but the nvidia logo - before showing gdm3 - was on the right side of the screen. it happened both using the debian way installation and using the proprietary driver from nvidia. So, I have purged nvidia from my laptop and installed Nouveau. The problem is that I only get 1026x768 display and it looks terrible. How do I get a better resolution? |
| 16:31.33 | holyfoot_ | themill, yes |
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| 16:37.37 | Achylles | Help? |
| 16:38.30 | Armand | throws Achylles a life-saver |
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| 16:44.38 | holyfoot_ | themill, well at least aptitude finds and proposes the desired solution if i answer No to the first solution it proposes. Is there any way to make apt-get to work the same way? |
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| 16:45.27 | themill | holyfoot_: only by using the package=version syntax on the command line |
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| 16:47.55 | holyfoot_ | themill, i see. Ok, many thanks for your help. |
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| 16:49.20 | themill | holyfoot_: if your version number were higher than the debian version then that would also solve the problem (/msg dpkg compare versions) but I'm not sure I really like 3rd party repos shipping the same package names as debian at the best of time, let alone with higher version numbers. |
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| 16:54.56 | HSorgYves | morning. on a multi-ip system, which ip is used for default outbound traffic? is this eth0? can this be changed? |
| 16:55.05 | holyfoot_ | themill: i guess the higher version number helps us temporarely but creates exactly same problems for mysql-server and only works until oracle releases mysql-server-5.5.30 (higher version number) |
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| 16:56.11 | marsje | Hi. I have built a vanilla kernel from kernel.org to support a specific driver that requires this kernel. Now when we boot, we get a kernel panic and the root fs cannot be mounted. The problem I guess is that the initrd.img is really small compared to the original debian version and probably missing reuires modules. How to fix this? |
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| 16:56.59 | themill | holyfoot_: yes. Much better not to ship packages that have the same name or packages that conflict. |
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| 16:57.35 | burble | hey guys. how would I find a wifi driver for debian when I'm installing it? |
| 16:57.56 | RougeR | you cant you need to install over wired conn |
| 16:58.03 | RougeR | had the same issue |
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| 16:58.28 | burble | I don't have a wired connection. I'm stealing wifi from neighbors |
| 16:58.30 | marsje | Error we get is: "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root...." |
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| 16:58.51 | RougeR | then you need to find one burble |
| 16:58.54 | RougeR | i had the same issue |
| 16:58.56 | burble | other distros come with at least ndiswrapper |
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| 17:01.42 | burble | would a full install dvd have wifi? |
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| 17:02.05 | RougeR | not sure, but im doubtful |
| 17:04.04 | burble | I just read why. device managers claim ownership and don't want it distributed with debian |
| 17:04.47 | abrotman | RougeR: yes, you can |
| 17:04.53 | burble | I think I have a workaround that doesn't involve me compiling the kernel |
| 17:05.00 | abrotman | dpkg: tell burble about firmware images |
| 17:05.08 | erbo | I run some packages from experimental, and for some reason "apt-get dist-upgrade -t experimental" fails due to two packages having unmet dependencies.. "E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." |
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| 17:05.21 | erbo | but those two packages dependencies are met |
| 17:05.33 | erbo | and installed |
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| 17:07.48 | abrotman | burble: sorry that RougeR gave you bad information |
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| 17:08.26 | burble | well I just found what I needed. thanks for your help abrotman |
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| 17:09.06 | burble | hopefully this distro makes a mighty fine server. I was having too many issues with redhat |
| 17:09.30 | debbbbeean | It does, but what kind of issues did you have with RHEL? |
| 17:09.56 | themill | erbo: you don't upgrade to experimental like that. In fact you don't upgrade to experimental at all |
| 17:10.00 | themill | dpkg: tell erbo about experimental |
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| 17:10.08 | abrotman | burble: wireless .. server ? |
| 17:10.15 | burble | some gnome issues, network issues too. they don't use teh standard DHCPd when you use yum |
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| 17:10.51 | burble | the config files are in teh wrong places too. and tehre is no up to date documentation |
| 17:11.09 | debbbbeean | For RHEL? Really, that's surprising. |
| 17:11.33 | debbbbeean | They used to have the finest documentation in place when I used to manage a few servers. |
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| 17:11.53 | themill | (also not particularly relevant to #debian) |
| 17:11.59 | burble | no it's a lan sever to use the PXE function and repair windows machines. but every time I would connect to wifi for something it would mess up the DHCP because teh 2 routers I connect to are different |
| 17:12.26 | burble | and it's not RHEL it's fedora 17 that was giving me so many issues |
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| 17:12.51 | burble | themill, you are right. we were getting off track |
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| 17:13.22 | Diranged | anyone remember how to make a debian package download a source tarball when you run dpkg-buildpackage? |
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| 17:14.08 | jbwiv | guys, I'm trying to install imagemagick on lenny from squeeze-backports. I've updated apt, apt-get updated, verified it's pulling from backports, but when i do "apt-get -t squeeze-backports install imagemagick' or 'aptitude -t squeeze-backports install imagemagick' it installs the lenny version (6.3.7.9) not the backports version (6.6.0.4). What am I missing? |
| 17:14.09 | themill | Diranged: dpkg-buildpackage doesn't download anything. apt-get source or dget or debsnap can do the downloading for oyu |
| 17:14.45 | Diranged | themill: i mean when im building my own dbe package.. rather than having the source in my own git repo, i just want the debian package control files, and then to point to a URL where the actual source tarball can be downloaded for building |
| 17:14.58 | somiaj | jbwiv: squeeze-backports is a repo for squeeze, not lenny. |
| 17:15.07 | somiaj | jbwiv: any reason why you haven't upgraded lenny to squeeze yet? |
| 17:15.36 | somiaj | jbwiv: note the squeeze-backports version is dependent on squeeze libaries, you want a lenny-backports if there is one |
| 17:15.44 | jbwiv | somiaj: /facepalm ;) Other apps on this box which might break. |
| 17:15.53 | jbwiv | somiaj: ok, thanks. I'll make that change and try |
| 17:16.02 | debbbbeean | Any recommended tools for managing iptables on a cli only headless machine? |
| 17:16.17 | somiaj | jbwiv: /msg dpkg ssbp (you can follow those instructions (but use the source you want) to compile your own package |
| 17:16.21 | somiaj | debbbbeean: besides iptables? |
| 17:16.38 | debbbbeean | somiaj: yes, something that makes the job easier |
| 17:17.00 | somiaj | debbbbeean: there are iptables-save, iptables-restore, iptables-apply to allow you to make your changes presistant. |
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| 17:17.44 | debbbbeean | I meant more of a ncurses sort of a thing |
| 17:17.44 | jbwiv | somiaj: interesting...thanks! Changing the sources file to point to lenny-backports doesn't seem to work, so I may have to go that route. It appears lenny backports were discontinued in March of last year |
| 17:18.10 | themill | jbwiv: things might break when you upgrade imagemagick too -- in fact it's got a sufficiently unstable command line interface and API that it's quite likely. |
| 17:18.13 | somiaj | jbwiv: lenny was discontiuned. There may be some of lenny-backports on archive.debian.org but not sure what is in there |
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| 17:18.29 | jbwiv | ok, thanks guys |
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| 17:20.35 | somiaj | debbbbeean: I don't know of such a thing. It appears shorewall doesn't have any x11/gui depends that I see. Maybe it is ncurses/cli enough |
| 17:21.04 | debbbbeean | Thanks somiaj, I'll take a look at it. |
| 17:21.13 | adh0c | If I'm writing an fstab for a vm, should the pass number for fusectl be lower than /boot? |
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| 17:42.22 | JordiGH | What does this mean in a Depends field? libnspr4-dev (>= 4.9.3~), |
| 17:42.57 | JordiGH | dpkg Seems to think that libsnpr4-dev (2:4.9.2-1~bpo60+1) satisfies it. |
| 17:42.57 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, JordiGH |
| 17:43.06 | JordiGH | dpkg: Silence! |
| 17:43.07 | dpkg | no idea, JordiGH |
| 17:43.57 | JordiGH | What does the ~ mean in the version? I think this is a packaging bug, since dpkg-buildpackage didn't complain about my installed version of libsnpr4-dev, but it doesn't actually satisfy the build-dep for Iceweasel. |
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| 17:47.56 | somiaj | JordiGH: I think it means pre release, so 4.2~1 < 4.2 < 4.2-1 -- http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Version |
| 17:48.18 | JordiGH | somiaj: So where's the bug? Why didn't debhelper complain about the version? |
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| 17:49.20 | zma | Hey, I need to see the diff between libXi.so.6.0.0 and libXi.so.6.1.0. How can I find the repository where this is maintained? |
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| 17:50.02 | JordiGH | zma: git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/lib/libXi |
| 17:50.08 | JordiGH | zma: That's the upstream version, though. |
| 17:50.24 | l0p3n | Hello, I'm trying to install libreoffice with sudo aptitude install libreoffice but the package is not found. Is there any repository I need to add? I am running Squeeze. |
| 17:50.35 | somiaj | zma: /usr/share/doc/package_name/changelog -- though that isn't the full diff, it says the changes if you have the debian package installed. |
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| 17:51.12 | JordiGH | zma: This is the Debian packaging: git://git.debian.org/git/pkg-xorg/lib/libxi |
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| 17:51.36 | JordiGH | l0p3n: I believe squeeze had OpenOffice. To get libreoffice, you want to add the squeeze-backports repo. |
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| 17:52.27 | somiaj | JordiGH: I am trying to rember the command that allows you to compare two debian version strings to see which is bigger. what package are you looking at? |
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| 17:52.51 | zma | JordiGH: wonderful, thanks! |
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| 17:53.48 | l0p3n | JordiGH: Alright, thanks! |
| 17:54.07 | JordiGH | somiaj: Iceweasel and its libnspr4-dev dependency. In squeeze, if you install libnspr4-dev from unstable, the experimental Iceweasel apparently has its build-deps satisfied (debhelper is happy) but the configure script doesn't like the version. |
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| 17:54.54 | JordiGH | somiaj: sorry, install libnspr4-dev from backports. |
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| 17:55.22 | somiaj | JordiGH: so you want a newer iceweasel, have you tried mozilla.debian.net |
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| 17:55.35 | JordiGH | somiaj: Fuck no, I only trust DDs. |
| 17:55.55 | somiaj | that is created by the mozilla DD team |
| 17:56.02 | JordiGH | Hm. |
| 17:56.28 | JordiGH | somiaj: At any rate, out of purely academic interest, I do wonder if there is a packaging bug here. |
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| 17:58.25 | somiaj | JordiGH: yea I am fairly sure ~ is like a prelease, so you get things like 4.2~rc1, 4.2~rc2, and so forth. But I don't see why as you said 2:4.9.2-1~bpo60+1 satisfies >= 4.9.3~ |
| 17:58.32 | extrados | lsusb in debian doesn't show a my rtl8188cus wifi adapter, but android does. Any suggestions? |
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| 17:59.28 | TheGrey | a quick wifi question: it seems that all my wifi traffic is stuck at 500 KiB/s...I'm currently torrenting a file and if I open a webpage streaming video, my torrent speed drops. In my conky network stat; the 500 KiB/s remains equilibrium...Whereas on Speedtest my reported speed is 5-6 Mbit/s. Can anyone explain/help me? |
| 17:59.40 | JordiGH | somiaj: Let's ask them in OFTC. |
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| 18:00.04 | somiaj | JordiGH: ahh here it is, dpkg --compare-versions ver1 op ver2 |
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| 18:01.18 | somiaj | hmm, doesn't seem to outpu the return code, now to rember how to get that |
| 18:01.37 | shay | .wc |
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| 18:02.13 | JordiGH | somiaj: dpkg --compare-versions "2:4.9.2-1~bpo60+1" ">=" "4.9.3~" && echo "lol?" |
| 18:02.22 | JordiGH | somiaj: That echoes positive for me. |
| 18:02.23 | JordiGH | wtf |
| 18:02.24 | somiaj | JordiGH: well echo $? is it |
| 18:02.28 | JordiGH | Sure. |
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| 18:02.43 | somiaj | dpkg --compare-versions "2:4.9.2-1~bpo60+1" ">=" "4.9.3~" && echo $? |
| 18:02.44 | dpkg | somiaj: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 18:02.50 | JordiGH | somiaj: ;, not && |
| 18:02.53 | somiaj | that gives me 0, so yes aperentally it is greater |
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| 18:03.29 | somiaj | and <= gives me a 1, that does seem strange |
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| 18:05.32 | somiaj | ahh its the damn ephoc messing things up...not sure if this is a bug |
| 18:05.41 | somiaj | pkg --compare-versions "4.9.2-1~bpo60+1" ">=" "4.9.3~"; echo $? -- that returns false |
| 18:05.50 | JordiGH | I guess the bug is me trying to build experimental iceweasel on squeeze? |
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| 18:06.38 | somiaj | I guess epoch version just trumps everything (so yea the issue is ensuring that the packages you build have the same epoch version) |
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| 18:07.03 | somiaj | it isn't a bug, as that is what the epoch is desied for, but yes it does make packaing a pain because you have to make sure you keep the epoch correct |
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| 18:07.38 | JordiGH | I see. |
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| 18:08.18 | somiaj | JordiGH: I would personally just use m.d.n (as they have already built it for squeeze). This is done by the debian mozilla team, but my personal experience with the repo is the icewealse works fine, but for somereason it isn't pinned like squeeze-backports so you either have to pinn it yourself or I just disable the repo after I install iceweasel so it doens't mess with future upgrades. |
| 18:08.23 | zma | JordiGH: Do you know how can I figure out the resulting library name from the repository? I need to be able to diff what's changed in source between libXi.so.6.1.0 and libXi.so.6.0.0 |
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| 18:08.42 | bool | is it safe to swap partition type from 5 (extended) to "f" w95 ext lba? |
| 18:09.02 | JordiGH | zma: idk, aren't there tags? |
| 18:09.24 | somiaj | bool: are you talking about the partition ID or type? |
| 18:09.39 | bool | type i think |
| 18:09.41 | bool | fdisk |
| 18:09.43 | bool | says type |
| 18:09.45 | somiaj | bool: for the most part it depends on the os if it honors that or not. In debian it will tell you the type but it isnt strickly enforced. |
| 18:10.04 | zma | JordiGH: aah, yes, there is soversion given in commit log. I should have noticed that. |
| 18:10.22 | somiaj | bool: that is just a string that says this partition has been set aside for this. debian actually looks at the data onthe partition to determine what is on it. Windows on the other hand won't even try to read data that has the incorrect parttion type (if I recall) |
| 18:10.57 | somiaj | bool: well I guess number (not string) (: |
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| 18:12.11 | bool | somiaj, I have created extended of type 5 with with two linux-partitions on it, but i still have free space. I want the rest of the free space to be an NTFS partition, but to make winows see it, the extended type must be of type "f" |
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| 18:13.44 | somiaj | bool: you should be able to change the type then. |
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| 18:15.05 | bool | ok, thanks |
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| 18:18.25 | JordiGH | Oh, looks like I missed some lols between Marillat and Debian. |
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| 18:22.44 | themill | JordiGH: btw perhaps you should check the bts... esp when you're playing with packages from experimental |
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| 18:23.05 | JordiGH | themill: I thought I did... Let me see.. |
| 18:23.25 | themill | #698961 |
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| 18:23.39 | shaun__ | hi all |
| 18:24.05 | shaun__ | I'm having trouble finding info on connecting to a wireless hard drive |
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| 18:24.56 | shaun__ | google doesn't give many relevant results |
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| 18:25.11 | Zoup | shaun__: what protocols does it support? |
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| 18:26.03 | shaun__ | I have no clue... its on our office network. its called "pterodacta" under windows... |
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| 18:26.46 | shaun__ | how might I find out? |
| 18:26.51 | Zoup | shaun__: i would suggest to dig what protocol it does support (probably cifs) and look for support under linux |
| 18:26.59 | JordiGH | themill: Oops, thanks. |
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| 18:30.49 | somiaj | shaun__: if it uses windows networking you need to install samba |
| 18:31.13 | somiaj | shaun__: it really depends on the protcol the drive is set up to connect to. Might have to do some research on the actual drive for that. |
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| 18:32.55 | jhutchins_wk | shaun__: However, if windows clients see it as a shared folder, it's using CIFS. |
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| 18:40.41 | Pegasus_RPG | Hello. Is there something I can add to my preseed file that offers the choice of which suite to install? Right now, I have to do an expert boot in order to get the choice. |
| 18:41.03 | Pegasus_RPG | And I'd rather not have to answer the extra 20 questions just to get that one option |
| 18:41.45 | Leoneof | key shortcuts for kde apps are not working with XFCE desktop, why? |
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| 18:45.20 | Zoup | Pegasus_RPG: find out what template name does it use, predefine them in preseed |
| 18:45.37 | Zoup | Pegasus_RPG: should be available in that udeb templates files |
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| 19:08.46 | lilleman | I'm running "apt-get remove openjdk-6-jre", but instead of removing it, its actually installs "default-jre" instead? How can I just uninstall this stuff? |
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| 19:09.39 | dimir | dpkg -P <shit> |
| 19:09.39 | dpkg | dimir: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 19:09.59 | lilleman | dimir: Was that to me? |
| 19:10.05 | dimir | lilleman: ye |
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| 19:10.16 | lilleman | dimir: ty, *trying* :) |
| 19:10.20 | dimir | :-) |
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| 19:11.22 | lilleman | dimir: It's complaining about dependencies, how can I remove all packeges depending on this package also? |
| 19:11.43 | dimir | useall: aptitude purge <package> |
| 19:11.55 | dimir | And then just hit enter. |
| 19:12.04 | dimir | But first - check the list it suggests. |
| 19:12.15 | dimir | If it installs some default stuff then this is really needed. |
| 19:12.20 | dimir | Don't break your system. |
| 19:12.21 | lilleman | dimir: Aaah, beautiful |
| 19:12.26 | lilleman | no worries |
| 19:12.28 | lilleman | its a dev machine |
| 19:12.36 | dimir | OK, well, try it. |
| 19:12.42 | lilleman | works like a charm |
| 19:12.45 | lilleman | Thanks again :) |
| 19:12.52 | dimir | No problemo. :-) |
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| 19:30.16 | leftist | afternoon. is it practical for me to attemt to update 10.04 ubuntu to debian? or should i just resign myself to the reality they all need to be done from scratch and just rebuilt to where we currently are? |
| 19:30.48 | stanley | I don't know if it's possible to go from Ubuntu -> Debian at all unless MAYBE if it's a LTS |
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| 19:31.23 | gnarface | leftist: not supported |
| 19:31.35 | leftist | well 10.04 is lts but it dies february i believe. we were burnt in the past with laptops that had 10.10 on them. |
| 19:31.56 | leftist | gnarface ok. i figured it was a dangerous thing to do anyway. |
| 19:32.03 | gnarface | leftist: also for whatever its worth, installs are way easier. the fact you're more afraid of a fresh debian install than the mad frankenstein monster you're proposing to create instead should be your first warning sign |
| 19:32.25 | gnarface | leftist: (that what you're about to do is mad) |
| 19:32.32 | leftist | i agree 100% with that gnarface |
| 19:32.41 | leftist | laugh |
| 19:33.09 | leftist | monster you say. laugh |
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| 19:38.55 | Pegasus_RPG | leftist: with a PXE boot and a preseed, you can make the installs totally automatic |
| 19:39.07 | Pegasus_RPG | or semi-automatic as you like |
| 19:40.23 | leftist | pegasus_rpg we were just discussing that very thing. we really were. |
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| 19:40.49 | leftist | bbiab thanks all for the reality check |
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| 19:58.29 | phatypus | gnarface: "the mad frankenstein monster you're proposing to create" :) |
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| 20:06.41 | vaillor | do you know an https server proxy? |
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| 20:18.13 | harrison | why is cmake not found in my apt repo? |
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| 20:18.52 | zykotick9 | , cmake |
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| 20:19.05 | zykotick9 | ,version cmake |
| 20:19.06 | judd | Package: cmake on i386 -- lenny: 2.6.0-6; squeeze: 2.8.2+dfsg.1-0+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 2.8.7-4~bpo60+1; sid: 2.8.9-1; wheezy: 2.8.9-1 |
| 20:19.23 | maslak | hello all - I'm looking for someone who can tell me how to install debian on software raid 10 and make it bootable ... |
| 20:20.07 | harrison | apt-cache search cmake |
| 20:20.07 | harrison | (nothing) |
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| 20:20.27 | mullein | harrison, maybe it's in contrib? |
| 20:20.39 | themill | !show sources.list harrison |
| 20:20.39 | dpkg | harrison: Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: find /etc/apt/ -name '*.list' -printf "\n%p:\n" -exec cat {} \; |
| 20:20.43 | zykotick9 | harrison: new install? have you run "apt-get update"/"aptitude update" |
| 20:20.47 | wols_ | maslak: you need to keep the /boot partition outside of the software raid, that's all |
| 20:20.49 | harrison | maybe i don't have that enabled |
| 20:20.57 | harrison | no not new install |
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| 20:21.14 | zykotick9 | harrison: it's not in contrib/non-free, i don't have those repos, and i have cmake listed. |
| 20:21.53 | maslak | wols_: what's the sense creating raid configuration without making boot partition in raid - when first disk fails machine is dead and waiting for grub install on different partition |
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| 20:22.18 | wols_ | maslak: it's the point of a software raid: software raid can only work with the software running |
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| 20:22.53 | harrison | http://pastebin.com/ELD8mQ0Y |
| 20:23.04 | harrison | i know i have installed it before |
| 20:23.14 | jesselang | You guys know a way to use grep or another program in a way that it will output *all* lines from the first occurrence of PATTERN to the last occurrence of PATTERN? |
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| 20:23.25 | maslak | wols_: that's not entirely true I did it with raid1 - but by making each partition boot separetly (but as filesystem it points to /dev/md0 |
| 20:23.29 | harrison | a group grep? |
| 20:23.34 | mullein | you're using unstable; it may be that there were errors in the package that caused it to be pulled from unstable - a situation i have encountered before |
| 20:23.49 | harrison | could be |
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| 20:23.52 | harrison | thx |
| 20:25.07 | jesselang | harrison, I want to do subsearches within a range of a log. |
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| 20:26.19 | harrison | i barely know how to use grep |
| 20:26.29 | harrison | at all |
| 20:26.58 | Zeeflo | jelly, u here? |
| 20:27.27 | Zeeflo | or jelly-home perhaps? |
| 20:28.38 | themill | jesselang: awk makes "first" to "next" is easy, but "last" is quite difficult unless you reverse the file with tac (ok if the files are small) or do lots of other stashing of intermediate results. |
| 20:29.00 | Zeeflo | OR perhaps themill would help with someone important, if he knows how? |
| 20:29.28 | Zeeflo | can I step into private message themill ? |
| 20:29.57 | themill | Zeeflo: if you're looking for help, please just ask in the channel. |
| 20:30.35 | harrison | there. another apt-get update and cmake is back |
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| 20:30.49 | burble | Zeeflo, everyone is here to help |
| 20:31.19 | Zeeflo | i know |
| 20:31.22 | Zeeflo | but its mysql related |
| 20:31.30 | Zeeflo | and the dudes there are rather insane |
| 20:31.49 | maslak | wols_: any other suggestions ? |
| 20:32.02 | burble | I know mysql. what's up? |
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| 20:32.05 | Zeeflo | hah |
| 20:32.22 | Zeeflo | actually now, theyre telling me I should go to the library and get a kiddie book with colored pages |
| 20:32.26 | Zeeflo | and that I will screw up |
| 20:32.29 | Zeeflo | niiiice help!! |
| 20:32.39 | themill | dpkg: tell Zeeflo about ask |
| 20:32.58 | Zeeflo | Alright, I have posts on a website |
| 20:33.08 | Zeeflo | I want to search for a long sentence and replace it with another |
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| 20:33.34 | Zeeflo | and replace excactly what I search for with excactly what I need it changed to |
| 20:33.39 | Zeeflo | I have phpmyadmin access |
| 20:35.00 | Zeeflo | I want to search for: [s2Stream player="jwplayer-v6-rtmp" player_path="/jwplayer/jwplayer.js" player_width="640" player_height="360" |
| 20:35.21 | Zeeflo | and I need to replace it with: [s2Stream player="jwplayer-v6-rtmp" player_path="/jwplayer/jwplayer.js" player_width="640" player_height="360" player_option_blocks="logo:{hide:'true'}" |
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| 20:36.26 | burble | Zeeflo: http://mybesinformatik.com/content/phpmyadmin-search-and-replace |
| 20:36.50 | burble | and this is incredibly off topic and something you could have googled, so I'm done |
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| 20:37.34 | adh0c | Anyone know what module a base sid install in a virtualbox requires for enabling wlan0 with a bridged adapter? |
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| 20:37.43 | Zeeflo | thanks, im reading it |
| 20:37.44 | jelly-home | Zeeflo: hi |
| 20:37.53 | Zeeflo | hi jelly :) |
| 20:38.10 | Zeeflo | burble, posted me a link that seems reasonable to deal with |
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| 20:38.36 | Zeeflo | burble, can I how ever, paste the code, and have you look at it before I run the command? |
| 20:38.40 | Zeeflo | just to verify |
| 20:38.59 | jelly-home | Zeeflo: good, I see people told you to just go ask the channel instead of focusing on one volunteer already |
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| 20:39.23 | Zeeflo | I know, i just "know" you here.. And youre a smart dude ;) |
| 20:39.35 | burble | do you know how to use pastie? |
| 20:39.39 | Zeeflo | hehe |
| 20:39.40 | Zeeflo | yea |
| 20:39.47 | burble | make a pastie and send me teh link |
| 20:39.57 | Zeeflo | sure, ill just get into phpmyadmin etc |
| 20:39.58 | Zeeflo | :) |
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| 20:41.13 | Zeeflo | so, tablefield is the field to the right correct? |
| 20:41.23 | Zeeflo | no tablename |
| 20:41.24 | Zeeflo | sorry |
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| 20:41.40 | Zeeflo | and tablefield is the name on the tab in the top? |
| 20:41.42 | Zeeflo | right? |
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| 20:45.18 | burble | I'm really not familiar with the software. I use mysql from command line, and I have written php, but I prefer java, and a whole lotta terminals |
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| 20:46.15 | Zeeflo | burble, http://pastebin.com/KxKAD2ac |
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| 20:46.28 | Zeeflo | and anyone else who wanna confirm it :) |
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| 20:52.44 | kulak | My dev box is Linux debl 2.6.32-5-686. My PHP version is PHP 5.3.3-7+squeeze14 with Suhosin-Patch (cli) (built: Aug 6 2012 20:08:59) . Is there a way to get PHP 5.4 on my system? |
| 20:52.51 | babilen | has the impression as if Zeeflo wants a different channel (some MySQL or MySQLAdmin or PHP one maybe) |
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| 20:53.13 | Zeeflo | babilen, youre right |
| 20:53.24 | Zeeflo | but try being me in #mysql |
| 20:53.29 | Zeeflo | its a joke |
| 20:53.34 | babilen | kulak: No, 5.4 is in wheezy and I wouldn't recommend to try to pull it into squeeze. |
| 20:53.49 | abrotman | kulak: build it yourself .. from source .. and then you're responsible for all the security issues that go with that |
| 20:54.03 | kulak | Is wheezy a stable release? |
| 20:54.03 | babilen | Zeeflo: The folks in #psql are quite nice, haven't used MySQL in a long time though. Still, not really on-topic here :) |
| 20:54.09 | abrotman | no |
| 20:54.20 | abrotman | not yet .. in a few mponthsperhaps |
| 20:54.24 | babilen | kulak: Not yet, it will be released sonnish though (2-5 months I reckon) |
| 20:54.34 | kulak | ok, thanks. |
| 20:54.46 | Zeeflo | i know babilen, people here are just generally helpful towards me |
| 20:54.49 | babilen | kulak: But that is just a guesstimate. |
| 20:54.49 | Zeeflo | thats why I ask here |
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| 20:57.47 | Anuska | hi, i want to change mac on my eth1 how i do? |
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| 20:58.59 | babilen | Anuska: Use macchanger |
| 20:59.06 | babilen | judd: i macchanger |
| 20:59.07 | judd | Package macchanger (net, extra) in squeeze/i386: utility for manipulating the MAC address of network interfaces. Version: 1.5.0-6; Size: 86.2k; Installed: 312k; Homepage: http://www.alobbs.com/macchanger; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/macchanger |
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| 21:00.41 | Anuska | i found to add in interfaces |
| 21:01.13 | Anuska | judd, if i want to sharing internet on other ? how i add 192.168.0.1 ... at the other network card? |
| 21:01.25 | babilen | Anuska: What are you trying to do? What is your native language? |
| 21:01.26 | Anuska | with |
| 21:01.27 | Anuska | auto eth0 |
| 21:01.27 | Anuska | iface eth0 inet static ? |
| 21:01.31 | Anuska | in interfaces? |
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| 21:06.50 | babilen | Anuska: You can have multiple interface definitions in /etc/network/interfaces - for eth0 /and/ for eth1. |
| 21:06.57 | babilen | dpkg: tell Anuska -about interfaces |
| 21:07.08 | babilen | Anuska: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration |
| 21:07.11 | Anuska | thanks |
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| 21:11.33 | Anuska | iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE (eth1= the internet ? or other network ) ? |
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| 21:15.48 | Lyrias | servus |
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| 21:17.18 | Lyrias | mein problem is, das ich mein root pw an der vm vergessen habe, *ja loeschen neu erstellen, danke kenn ich schon* wie sehe die elegantere loesung aus? |
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| 21:19.14 | Tramp | !tell Lyrias -about de |
| 21:20.17 | anddam | I'm configuring exim4-configure, can I have mbox in /home/mail rather than /var ? |
| 21:20.20 | Lyrias | my problem is, i have forget the root pw, and we can i the same pw rescue ? sry my english is very bad :( |
| 21:20.22 | anddam | the /home partition is way bigger |
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| 21:20.32 | abrotman | !tell Lyrias about ifrp |
| 21:21.07 | anddam | I'm going through http://pkg-exim4.alioth.debian.org/README/README.Debian.squeeze.html |
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| 21:23.05 | Lyrias | i not an developer.. ! |
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| 21:26.12 | abrotman | Lyrias: so what? |
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| 21:27.17 | Lyrias | in youtube.com, i see a movie, load rescue debian.. ok.. the problem is, i load rescue und i cam in the boodloader (Grub) shell, not in the debian root shell :( |
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| 21:29.15 | abrotman | Lyrias: see what the bot told you |
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| 21:29.57 | Lyrias | i ask more at #debian.de .. thx of lot ;) |
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| 21:35.36 | Anuska | hi, i have some problem with my server, how i test to see what hardware crash my linux? |
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| 21:40.17 | yeehi | Anybody know a diet / fitness program? tracks calories burned / eaten, makes suggestions for weights to use on various exercise machines, fitness regimen, that sort of thing? |
| 21:40.38 | abrotman | and is F/OSS ? |
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| 21:41.38 | abrotman | yeehi: searching freshmeat.net for "weight loss" found a few .. not sure howactive they are |
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| 21:42.12 | yeehi | thanks abrotman - that sounds like a good site to find programs... |
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| 21:45.44 | jhutchins_wk | there's also sourceforge.net |
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| 21:46.15 | jhutchins_wk | It should be noted that freshmeat.net is now freecode.net. |
| 21:46.50 | anddam | the exim4 pkg config mechanics makes actually sense |
| 21:47.00 | anddam | I've just been through http://pkg-exim4.alioth.debian.org/README/README.Debian.squeeze.html#macros |
| 21:47.20 | anddam | err, no anchor, the whole document |
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| 21:48.53 | axisys | how to add GRUB_SERIAL_COMMAND="serial .." during install? |
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| 21:49.50 | axisys | kernel line has this " -- console=tty0 console=ttyS0,9600n8" already |
| 21:50.16 | axisys | I also have to manually setup ttyS0 after install |
| 21:50.34 | axisys | I like to skip it may be by updating my preseed ? |
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| 21:54.14 | Brigo | axisys: i think you have to edit /etc/default/grub |
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| 21:56.02 | axisys | Brigo: that is what I am doing now.. I wonder if I can automate it |
| 21:56.06 | axisys | during install |
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| 22:02.24 | allu3 | if i have questions about making a .deb on a wheezy system, which channel should i go? |
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| 22:03.14 | babilen | allu3: here or #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net |
| 22:04.58 | Guest63975 | hello, dont know what to ask because i am making a mess about linux. what are the minimal files needed to have linux working? |
| 22:04.58 | allu3 | i get this error http://pastebin.com/XrR7CTv7 when trying to build deb with this rules file http://ubuntuone.com/1KOHVsmC12jX6efp8a5f6Y |
| 22:05.54 | allu3 | Guest63975: you might want to google tiny core linux, its pretty much as small as it gets |
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| 22:07.51 | Guest63975 | allu3 , thanks it s not that im having in mind. i think i want something that looks like a terminal iin ubuntu |
| 22:08.24 | allu3 | Guest63975: you can run tinycore Linux without X leaving only console interface |
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| 22:09.05 | Guest63975 | allu3 , what about using debian kernel? |
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| 22:09.23 | anddam | should dovecot be added to mail group by APT? |
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| 22:10.02 | allu3 | Guest63975: you could probably work something out from http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ but i'm not experienced on that |
| 22:10.02 | anddam | Guest63975: I guess you should a) change your nick b) describe what you want to obtain in a more clear way |
| 22:10.26 | anddam | "something that looks like a termina in ubuntu" doesn't mean a lot, to me at least |
| 22:10.32 | anddam | terminal* |
| 22:10.47 | allu3 | anddam: i expect he wants just console and no X |
| 22:11.05 | wols_ | Guest63975: a kernel and a shell |
| 22:11.27 | Guest63975 | wols_ i guess thats it |
| 22:11.31 | wols_ | e.g. init=/bin/dash on as a kernel parameter |
| 22:11.52 | wols_ | Guest63975: what actual problem is this question supposed to solve? |
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| 22:12.26 | NullMoogleCable | ok so im trying to setup smartd on my dell server that has a raid controller |
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| 22:13.09 | Guest63975 | wols_ i would like to start with the basic and start ading packages to see if i can learn something |
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| 22:13.14 | NullMoogleCable | I can get the smart info with sudo smartctl -a -d megaraid,4 /dev/sg2 |
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| 22:13.54 | anddam | Guest63975: do you have any prior knowledge about how an OS work? |
| 22:14.21 | allu3 | Guest63975: if you have patience and nerves of steel http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ |
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| 22:14.27 | wols_ | Guest63975: read Linux from Scratch if you want to learn |
| 22:14.34 | anddam | wols_: I added dovecot user to mail group by hand, shouldn't it be added by default since using "mail" group is in debian's dovecot config? |
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| 22:15.00 | Guest63975 | anddam , i believe it has a kernel and some programs attached to it? |
| 22:15.03 | wols_ | wouldn't know. does dovecot need to be part of the mail group? |
| 22:15.20 | joltcan | wols_: depends on your mail storage configuration |
| 22:15.42 | NullMoogleCable | how do i add each drive in the raid to enable_smart="" in the smartmontools config |
| 22:15.43 | joltcan | oh, anddam^ |
| 22:15.44 | anddam | debian's default config states "mail_privileged_group = mail" |
| 22:16.18 | anddam | Guest63975: I'm taking that as a no, my *guess+ is that you'd learn more going the opposite, that is learning how to use a system and then strip down components |
| 22:16.30 | joltcan | anddam: dovecot is for storage, so if your MTA delivers emails to a folder readable as a user, then dovecot would use the permissions of that user, so mail wouldn't be needed |
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| 22:16.52 | anddam | that's used for the locking of the folder |
| 22:17.22 | Guest63975 | anddam , i guess i ll have to start with a kernel and a shell is that right? |
| 22:17.42 | joltcan | anddam: I think the mail group was intended for outgoing mail/MTA interactions |
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| 22:17.52 | anddam | joltcan: since it's the default value for dovecot and since /var/mail is root:mail by default |
| 22:18.02 | anddam | ok just asking |
| 22:18.19 | anddam | first time I'm configuring email system |
| 22:18.20 | allu3 | Guest63975: if you don't want to start from scratch perhaps something very simple like tiny core linux would do for you to get started on learning what is needed |
| 22:19.19 | tremon | Guest63975: have you heard of linuxfromscratch? |
| 22:20.05 | tremon | it isn't targeted towards embedded and/or minimalist, but you'll learn much of what you need to know |
| 22:20.18 | allu3 | Guest63975: you can find here instructions on building a linux system from scratch in several languages ^^ http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/read.html |
| 22:20.25 | tremon | yeah that one :) |
| 22:20.50 | allu3 | i get this error http://pastebin.com/XrR7CTv7 when trying to build .deb with this rules file http://ubuntuone.com/1KOHVsmC12jX6efp8a5f6Y |
| 22:21.47 | allu3 | something seems to be wrong with my rules file but i can't figure out what :S i've checked spaces and tabs like 100 times now :S |
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| 22:22.40 | tremon | allu3: that looks like your dpkg-devel is too old (or possible one of the other dh packages) |
| 22:23.18 | allu3 | tremon: uh any idea how to go around fixing it? |
| 22:23.20 | NullMoogleCable | am i better off configuring this in smartd? |
| 22:24.28 | tremon | allu3: I'm pretty sure #debian-mentors (on oftc.net) will be a better place to ask. Sometimes you get lucky here, but here be users, not developers (mostly) |
| 22:24.49 | allu3 | i have a fear i'll enter to a ghost town when i go there :P |
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| 22:25.37 | tremon | NullMoogleCable: what's wrong with the default devicescan line in smartd.conf? |
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| 22:28.27 | NullMoogleCable | its not finding my raid drives |
| 22:28.44 | NullMoogleCable | i have to tell it how to find the drives |
| 22:28.56 | Guest63975 | allu3 , thanks , ive ake a look its to much stuff for my head |
| 22:29.04 | Guest63975 | *take |
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| 22:32.04 | tremon | NullMoogleCable: if your (hw raid) card is preventing direct access to the disks, you'll need to use whatever driver is provided by the manufacturer. Otherwise, just add the disks explicitly (e.g. /dev/sda -d $type -H) |
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| 22:32.52 | Guest63975 | allu3 , can you give youre opinion about http://raine.infa.fi/debian-manual-install.shtml |
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| 22:34.04 | NullMoogleCable | like /dev/sg2 -d megaraid,0 /dev/sg2 -d megaraid,1 .... |
| 22:34.09 | tremon | Guest63975: if you want to go that route, I suggest you explore debootstrap first |
| 22:35.01 | tremon | NullMoogleCable: possibly, don't know what the syntax for megaraid is |
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| 22:35.56 | NullMoogleCable | i need to go eat some food |
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| 22:37.29 | Guest63975 | tremon , can you help me with that tutorial? |
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| 22:41.41 | Guest63975 | i thought this was easier |
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| 22:43.13 | tremon | Guest63975: what's "this" ? |
| 22:43.54 | Guest63975 | tremon , http://raine.infa.fi/debian-manual-install.shtml |
| 22:45.00 | tremon | Guest63975: I don't really see how that's easier than using debootstrap. However, if you're looking for easy, why aren't you using the install cd's? |
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| 22:47.28 | Devastator | can I reinstall a debian system with debootstrap or something? I have debian installed, but I want to start fresh |
| 22:47.57 | itry | Hello! Im traveling and Im using a wifi in my apartment. It works fine when i boot into windows (right now) but when I use my debian partition, it always stops working after a few seconds. Any ideas how to go about this? |
| 22:49.24 | tremon | Devastator: you can't reinstall the existing system, however you can build a new system on a separate partition and migrate/mount all your old data partitions |
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| 22:50.45 | Devastator | tremon everything is on the same partition heheh, so.. usb or cd/dvd only? |
| 22:51.16 | tremon | yes, and backup your data before reinstalling |
| 22:51.34 | Devastator | thankfully, nothing to save |
| 22:51.43 | Devastator | nothing important even |
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| 22:54.55 | itry | How would you guys analyze whats up if your wifi connection always hangs after a few seconds? |
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| 22:55.24 | tremon | itry: I'd try to blame the driver/firmware first |
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| 22:55.50 | Devastator | check if it's not power management |
| 22:55.57 | itry | tremon: the wifi works fine when im at home. just not here in a rented apartment. |
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| 23:13.08 | temporarybadge | how do i take over another session as root through an ssh connection |
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| 23:15.17 | abrotman | another session of what? |
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| 23:16.22 | Guest63975 | what would happen if i uninstall the desktop environment package? |
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| 23:16.47 | fnmueller | it will be deinstalled ? Guest63975 |
| 23:17.01 | temporarybadge | you would have to use the command line to do anything else |
| 23:17.11 | temporarybadge | you would free up resources |
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| 23:17.28 | ionut69 | temp: use screen command to do that |
| 23:18.15 | Guest63975 | temporary badge , os would boot into command line? |
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| 23:18.25 | Guest63975 | temporarybadge , os would boot into command line? |
| 23:18.32 | abrotman | ionut69: a bit late for that |
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| 23:20.03 | ionut69 | Ohh.. right you have to start the session with screen |
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| 23:21.01 | abrotman | judd: info retty |
| 23:21.02 | judd | Package retty (utils, extra) in squeeze/i386: attach processes running on other terminals. Version: 1.0-2; Size: 9.6k; Installed: 68k |
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| 23:22.45 | aguitel | how disable flash in firefox ? |
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| 23:23.34 | oneand0 | aguitel, i simply use the flashblock xul-extension |
| 23:23.51 | aguitel | oneand0, no extension |
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| 23:26.05 | oneand0 | aguitel, hmm if you dont want to use an extension...drop the symlink...? |
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| 23:26.27 | aguitel | oneand0, in about:config |
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| 23:28.22 | oneand0 | aguitel, ahh.. not sure if that can be done actually, cant help you there :D |
| 23:28.39 | aguitel | oneand0, ok |
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