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| 00:04.09 | b2coutts | Hey #debian, I'm trying to burn an ISO in 6.06, but I can't get debian to recognize my DVD drive. 'wodim --devices' yields the error 'Cannot open SCSI driver!'. Weirdly, using 'eject' from the command line works fine. Does anyone have suggestions for detecting the drive? |
| 00:05.45 | wsky | b2coutts: have you got /dev/sr0 device file present in your flesystem? is your user present in the cdrom group? |
| 00:06.03 | b2coutts | wsky: yes to both |
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| 00:06.57 | wsky | b2coutts: have you tried other disk burning software? like k3b? |
| 00:07.15 | b2coutts | wsky: I installed brasero to try to get it to work, but brasero can't detect it either |
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| 00:07.49 | wsky | as far i can tell it might be a hardware issue |
| 00:08.24 | b2coutts | wsky: the drive worked a week ago, I used to to install debian |
| 00:08.29 | wsky | but i'd try upgrading kernel |
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| 00:09.20 | wsky | like 3.2 from backports |
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| 00:13.58 | zykotick9 | b2coutts: if you want some more guidance with what wsky suggested above see "/msg dpkg bdo kernel" |
| 00:14.47 | maxwell | what command does the debian installer apply when asked to securely erase data on a future encrypted partition? thanks |
| 00:14.48 | b2coutts | wsky: awesome, that worked, thanks a lot |
| 00:15.08 | wsky | awesome. |
| 00:15.09 | Pei | :) |
| 00:15.55 | Pei | can someone explain to me what a "backport" is? |
| 00:16.04 | wsky | !backports |
| 00:16.04 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 00:16.07 | Pei | dpkg tell me about backports |
| 00:16.10 | Pei | oh |
| 00:16.16 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Pei about selftell |
| 00:16.39 | Pei | oh |
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| 00:22.21 | enyawix | i am having issues with repository "Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/q/qt4-x11/libqtcore4_4.8.2+dfsg-10_amd64.deb: 404 Not Found [IP: 128.30.2.36 80]" |
| 00:23.02 | abrotman | enyawix: aptitude update, try again |
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| 00:27.52 | enyawix | abrotman: ok |
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| 00:32.15 | _DomY-Dom | Anyone care to spare me reading too many manuals and tell me the exact commands to install the whole of nodejs on debian ? |
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| 00:33.23 | _DomY-Dom | Is the "Debian" section this page right https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Installing-Node.js-via-package-manager ? |
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| 00:35.55 | optimus__ | helloo alll, good nig =) |
| 00:36.20 | optimus__ | the system operacional debian is very much |
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| 00:38.37 | abrotman | _DomY-Dom: there's a package called nodejs |
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| 00:39.44 | _DomY-Dom | abrotman: Am doing this http://oodavid.tumblr.com/post/15090798307/how-to-install-node-js-on-linux right now though |
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| 00:40.56 | abrotman | so why ask? |
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| 00:41.40 | _DomY-Dom | abrotman: I didn't know what was the simplest way, does that tutorial look right ? |
| 00:42.14 | abrotman | no idea |
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| 00:45.25 | angs | where does debian keep host and password information? |
| 00:45.32 | angs | debian squeeze? |
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| 00:46.47 | peterrooney | angs: /etc/hostname and /etc/{passwd,shadow} |
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| 00:48.07 | angs | can I change the host name by editing the /etc/.. files? |
| 00:48.27 | abrotman | angs: man hostname |
| 00:49.01 | _DomY-Dom | abrotman: there is no package called "nodejs". How do I install npm ? |
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| 00:49.53 | _DomY-Dom | abrotman: there is no package called "nodejs". |
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| 00:54.02 | abrotman | _DomY-Dom: which version of Debian? |
| 00:54.13 | abrotman | bah, only in unstable AFAICT |
| 00:54.43 | _DomY-Dom | abrotman: how do I check my versiona gain ? |
| 00:54.45 | _DomY-Dom | again * |
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| 01:08.21 | abrotman | _DomY-Dom: look at your sources.list |
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| 01:16.01 | rryoumaa | is there a cd you can use on a computer to tell whether debian installer will work and if not why not? like if the keyboard isn't recognized or the kernel hangs, or is it just slow, or whatever. |
| 01:16.28 | rryoumaa | like, so the user does not sit there wondering what's wrong and having to go back to another computer to ask what to do, just try everything out and tell the user what' |
| 01:16.30 | rryoumaa | s wrong |
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| 01:17.58 | wsky | rryoumaa: there is no such thing |
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| 01:18.24 | rryoumaa | i guess what i am asking for is more useful information for the user so you don't sit there like a fool waiting for nothing to happen |
| 01:18.56 | rryoumaa | the installer just stops and it's not clear whether the keyboard is recognized. on a different kind of boot, the kernel just stops at a certain place, and you don't know if it is doing anything or not. if i were a kernel developer, i'd make it have a mode to test things and tell you what's wrong and whether something will take a long time. but i'm nto a kernel developer. |
| 01:19.22 | abrotman | rryoumaa: the liveCD is a reasonable guess |
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| 01:19.30 | rryoumaa | i'll try it, thanks |
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| 01:37.54 | sacredchao | Upgraded to a new kernel package, which broke nvidia driver, but reinstalling nvidia-kernel-dkms is not fixing it. |
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| 01:38.13 | sacredchao | X.org complains of no screens found in the log, and no display manager will start |
| 01:38.18 | anigma | what is needed to make dnssec-enable a valid option in BIND? |
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| 01:38.46 | wsky | sacredchao: what is your debian version? |
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| 01:39.39 | sacredchao | wsky: The relevant packages are from sid, so I guess you can say wheezy/sid |
| 01:41.43 | wsky | sacredchao: mixing debian releases is bad. but if you're into floundering into it then you should install nvidia drivers from sid as well |
| 01:42.09 | sacredchao | wsky: The drivers are from sid |
| 01:42.16 | sacredchao | They were working on the previous kernel fine. |
| 01:42.30 | wsky | and what is your current kernel version? |
| 01:42.35 | sacredchao | I upgraded to a new precompiled kernel and no surprise the graphics wouldn't work |
| 01:42.44 | sacredchao | Now I have 3.7-trunk |
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| 01:42.51 | Pei | LOL |
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| 01:43.06 | sacredchao | But I figured a reinstall of nvidia-kernel-dkms would compile the kernel module |
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| 01:43.12 | wsky | sacredchao: there you go. you got incompatibile kernel and graphic driver |
| 01:43.37 | wsky | or |
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| 01:43.53 | wsky | you didn't link your new headers to /usr/src/linux |
| 01:43.57 | sacredchao | Nvidia 304.64 is incompatible with Linux 3.7? |
| 01:44.00 | abrotman | sacredchao: upgraded it from what? |
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| 01:44.16 | sacredchao | abrotman: Just before this I have Linux 3.6 and Nvidia 304.64 |
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| 01:44.42 | abrotman | sacredchao: so, your experimetnal kernel doesn't work with some binary drivers |
| 01:44.45 | wsky | sacredchao: what does yur /usr/src/linux point to? |
| 01:45.33 | sacredchao | wsky: I don't have a /usr/src/linux is that supposed to be a symlink? |
| 01:45.38 | wsky | yes |
| 01:46.10 | sacredchao | NonI have 2 Debian machines here and neither of them have that. |
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| 01:48.44 | wsky | sacredchao: well, nvidia drivers need kernel headers to make themselves run |
| 01:48.54 | sacredchao | wsky: I have the headers for 3.7 |
| 01:49.28 | sacredchao | DKMS compiled the nvidia module shim against the headers for 3.7 without reporting an error |
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| 01:49.54 | sacredchao | It turns out that 304.64 may need to be patched to work with 3.7 |
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| 01:50.58 | Pei | how easy is it to switch from say, gnome wm to say, lxde, does debian have a windows manager/installer or selector? |
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| 01:51.04 | abrotman | yes |
| 01:51.08 | abrotman | sacredchao: it's binary? |
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| 01:52.45 | nachos | Hi, How do I route packets between two nics? |
| 01:52.59 | sacredchao | abrotman: nvidia driver has 2 parts, one is binary-only non-free blob generally called nvidia-glx, and the other is a piece of libre code that acts as a Linux kernel module that generally compiles against the headers of the installed kernel and interfaces with nvidia-glx |
| 01:53.02 | nachos | I have a static route in my router so it should know where to go |
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| 01:53.39 | abrotman | nachos: lartc.org has lots of docs |
| 01:53.44 | abrotman | sacredchao: i'm aware |
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| 01:54.08 | sacredchao | Oh, you are not asking a question, more of suggesting a reason why it's not working perhaps. |
| 01:54.16 | AlexandreMBM | There is a XDMCP channel? |
| 01:54.27 | abrotman | #xorg maybe |
| 01:54.45 | sacredchao | I'm going to sell this Thinkpad soon partially because of this... the DisplayPort (which I need to power my 2560x1440 LCD) is HARDwired to the Nvidia card |
| 01:54.50 | AlexandreMBM | abrotman, thanks |
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| 01:55.17 | sacredchao | The INtel GPU is not connected to my only digital video output in any way. |
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| 01:57.28 | Pei | hi guys it says |
| 01:57.29 | Pei | sell this Thinkpad soon partially because of this... the DisplayPort (which I need to power my 2560x1440 LCD) is HARDwired to the Nvidia card |
| 01:57.29 | Pei | [18:54] (AlexandreMBM): abrotman, t |
| 01:57.35 | Pei | eep wrong |
| 01:57.41 | Pei | sorry for the bad paste |
| 01:57.48 | Pei | GNOME provides the Appearance Preferences dialog to allow users to customise the appearance of their desktop. This can usually be found by choosing Preferences from the System menu, and clicking the "Appearance" menu item. |
| 01:58.07 | Pei | what does it mean preferences from the system menu? |
| 01:58.15 | AlexandreMBM | Pei, I don't understand |
| 01:58.17 | Pei | is that talking about an old version or something? |
| 01:58.28 | Pei | i don't see a system menu |
| 01:59.48 | Pei | :/ |
| 01:59.59 | nachos | I've realised my router may be shit |
| 02:00.21 | abrotman | Pei: again, tell us what you're actually trying to do .. Guessing is tiring |
| 02:00.41 | Pei | appearance preferences |
| 02:00.52 | abrotman | ... |
| 02:01.00 | Pei | look what i pasted above about gnome provides the appearanance... |
| 02:01.12 | abrotman | waits |
| 02:01.22 | Pei | GNOME provides the Appearance Preferences dialog to allow users to customise the appearance of their desktop. This can usually be found by choosing Preferences from the System menu, and clicking the "Appearance" menu item. |
| 02:01.26 | Pei | ^^^^^^^^^ RIGHT HERE |
| 02:01.37 | Pei | where is the system menu, and preferences |
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| 02:02.59 | Pei | well fuck am i even using gnome? |
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| 02:04.10 | Pei | ok sorry but this is crazy, firmware-wheezy-DI-rc1-netinst.iso uses gnome as it's default windows manager after you install the system right?? |
| 02:04.56 | Pei | somebody? |
| 02:05.01 | Pei | anybody? please....... |
| 02:05.22 | abrotman | you're not telling us what you actually want to do |
| 02:05.22 | wsky | hm |
| 02:05.53 | Pei | customize the appearance of the desktop |
| 02:05.59 | Pei | like i pasted above |
| 02:06.14 | wsky | i can't see how is this a debian issue |
| 02:06.34 | abrotman | Pei: which version of Gnome? |
| 02:06.37 | Pei | \ |
| 02:06.43 | dvs | pebkac |
| 02:06.46 | abrotman | seriously |
| 02:07.02 | abrotman | notes is not a version number |
| 02:07.02 | Pei | abrotman: good question, how do i check? |
| 02:07.06 | abrotman | ... |
| 02:07.22 | abrotman | Pei: how do you check the vresion of any package? |
| 02:07.28 | abrotman | !tell Pei about refcard |
| 02:07.31 | abrotman | !tell Pei about grounding |
| 02:08.20 | abrotman | Pei: i'm not going to spoonfeed you something that is a basic part of using Debian |
| 02:08.41 | Pei | I'M LOOKING |
| 02:08.42 | Pei | damn |
| 02:10.00 | Pei | all i see in the reference card is compare versions |
| 02:10.19 | abrotman | gives up |
| 02:10.49 | Armand | hugs abrotman... it's ok... |
| 02:10.50 | Pei | christ you don't have to be a dickhead i work with a lot of distros okay, debian happens to be new to me |
| 02:10.58 | AlexandreMBM | abrotman, apt-cache policy packagename |
| 02:11.15 | abrotman | AlexandreMBM: i'm not the one that needs help |
| 02:11.23 | abrotman | Pei: read/print the refcard |
| 02:11.53 | AlexandreMBM | abrotman, ah! |
| 02:12.02 | abrotman | Pei: and please refrain from calling people names .. we don't lable you |
| 02:12.03 | abrotman | label |
| 02:12.09 | AlexandreMBM | Pei, apt-cache policy packagename |
| 02:12.19 | Pei | thank you |
| 02:12.21 | Pei | and sorry |
| 02:12.34 | Pei | i'm actually trying to help a friend, not myself |
| 02:12.52 | AlexandreMBM | Pei, or dpkg -s packagename |
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| 02:13.52 | Pei | ok so for gnome it says.... Installed: 1:3.4+7 |
| 02:13.57 | Pei | whatever the hell that mean |
| 02:14.06 | abrotman | Pei: did you try clicking on your name in the top right corner? |
| 02:14.38 | Pei | thank you, that's all i (he) needed to know |
| 02:15.00 | abrotman | that's all huh? |
| 02:15.39 | AlexandreMBM | abrotman, why the bot? |
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| 02:20.57 | Pei | okay so........ sorry here but i'm back |
| 02:21.02 | Pei | uhm... |
| 02:21.31 | dvs | gives abrotman $50 |
| 02:22.06 | Pei | where do i go to customize appearance tho, it's not in the System Settings |
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| 02:22.25 | Pei | is that even available with gnome? |
| 02:23.42 | abrotman | you now have the gnome version, i'm sure google could help you |
| 02:24.41 | Pei | yeah........, and i'm back to my original paste |
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| 02:25.02 | abrotman | maybe you should have your friend join the channel so we can help directly |
| 02:25.15 | Pei | well we're both learning |
| 02:25.38 | wsky | dvs: what was the bet about? |
| 02:26.26 | dvs | wsky: something friendly, that's all. ;-) |
| 02:28.02 | Pei | GNOME provides the Appearance Preferences dialog to allow users to customise the appearance of their desktop. This can usually be found by choosing Preferences from the System menu, and clicking the "Appearance" menu item. <--- Last question for awhile, Do the "Preferences" and "Appearance menu " even exist? |
| 02:29.08 | Pei | i'm.... obviously missing something.,.... some... cosmic joke i'm not in on..... |
| 02:29.22 | Pei | walks away muttering to himself and twitching..... |
| 02:29.22 | Pei | ] |
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| 02:32.45 | LtL | Pei: hint /join #gnome |
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| 02:44.19 | nachos | I don't understand |
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| 02:44.29 | nachos | What's the setup to make linux forward packets across interfaces |
| 02:44.37 | nachos | ipforwarding=1? nothing else |
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| 02:45.11 | wontzer | hello channel |
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| 02:46.44 | dvs | !next |
| 02:46.45 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 02:46.51 | maxwell | does anyone know what command the debian installer applies when asked to securely erase data on a future encrypted partition? thanks |
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| 02:47.12 | maxwell | im looking at the debian-installer package source, but i'm kind of lost |
| 02:47.33 | un214 | I fancy it does dd if=/dev/zero of=encrypted_device or something similar |
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| 02:49.03 | maxwell | I thought the same, maybe urandom, but could I possibly find that line if I search that package? |
| 02:49.09 | maxwell | thanks btw |
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| 02:52.54 | Armand | Sorry if I'm being dumb.. this is my first time looking into the subject. |
| 02:53.21 | Armand | If I'm reading correctly, I can use a CUDA equipped graphics card to assist compiling ? |
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| 03:01.55 | tharkun | Someone told me that to virtualize a gui based host I would rather use something different than KVM. Does anyone know why? I've google some and it all sends me to some ubuntu documentation. |
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| 03:13.22 | somiaj | tharkun: virt-manager can work as a gui for kvm just fine. I guess I don't see why having gui on the host would matter. |
| 03:14.20 | tharkun | somiaj: gui on the guest seems to be the problem. I really don't care about the host since that is mine to admin, but the guests are to be used by common office users. |
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| 03:16.25 | somiaj | tharkun: kvm works with vnc (or spice) and should do gui guests just fine. I didn't notice any 2d issues with having a kvm xp guest. |
| 03:16.44 | somiaj | though I think virtuial box is quite popular for that too |
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| 03:18.14 | tharkun | somiaj: Ok, I've been a long time user of kvm and I've managed to do some nice tricks with it. So this isue came as a total surprise. Actually people suggested virtual box as an alternative. |
| 03:19.31 | somiaj | in my limited experience with kvm I don't see why it would be an issue, but I haven't done any extensive use. |
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| 03:22.59 | passstab | anyone have a favorite OSM viewer? |
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| 03:24.21 | devios | does it make sense that an scp transfer would go literally five+ times slower than an ftp (unencrypted) transfer? |
| 03:24.29 | leftist | hi i have a issue here. i am installing an app and it says to do this first This is current as of March 2011 (hint, hint, browse to http://ftp.debian.org/pool/main/libm/libmd5-perl/ and check the versions): |
| 03:24.43 | leftist | where would i finnd the current version? |
| 03:25.09 | leftist | i'm trying to install http://www.phreesoft.com/?page_id=851 |
| 03:25.37 | abrotman | what?! |
| 03:25.49 | abrotman | devios: possibly, depends on the systems at either end |
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| 03:29.08 | devios | abrotman: hrm. what are possible causes for that dramatic a slowdown that I need to test for? both ends are circa-2009 systems with 2+ GB ram, and both are on 10+mbps connections... any chance the colos on either side would handicap transfer speeds for encrypted data? |
| 03:29.09 | leftist | wget isnt used any longer in debian? |
| 03:29.24 | leftist | i must be tired |
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| 03:30.49 | leftist | i guess i am on my own. |
| 03:30.51 | leftist | thanks |
| 03:30.53 | abrotman | devios: not likely ..but it does encode everything |
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| 03:38.15 | devios | abrotman: im not sure i understand what encodes everything? |
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| 03:41.30 | RoenieLap | i spent 12 hours straight on fixing Xorg with a dual monitor setup, because firmware-non-free is omitted by default by debian and unlike most major distros it doesn't pass the kernel command required for the radeon kernel driver to do its job |
| 03:42.05 | RoenieLap | (not even talking about the proprietary driver!) |
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| 03:43.05 | RoenieLap | the "radeon" module was still automatically installed by the debian installer and loaded |
| 03:43.21 | RoenieLap | but it can't function properly without those requirements i mentioned |
| 03:43.46 | RoenieLap | so why the *CENSORED* is the user not informed of this idiocy? |
| 03:44.12 | somiaj | the user should be, I recally seeing some warning about missing firmware, you will not get full functionality. |
| 03:44.24 | somiaj | though I forget where I ran across that |
| 03:44.25 | RoenieLap | really? |
| 03:44.43 | abrotman | in the /usr/share/doc/ stuffs? |
| 03:45.05 | abrotman | perhaps when you rebuild the initramfs? |
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| 03:46.24 | RoenieLap | well, if you don't rebuild it you wouldn't know then, would you |
| 03:46.43 | RoenieLap | or do you mean during the install phase |
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| 04:00.12 | somiaj | RoenieLap: I think it was in dmesg when you load the module now that I think about it |
| 04:00.42 | devios | abrotman: gonna try using arcfour256 cypher with scp based on a bunch of googling about speeding up scp. |
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| 04:10.24 | boytoy | Hi. I'm trying to list some dependencies needed to compile Ruby. Can someone list these in order of importance for such a compile? gcc automake libtool bison readline |
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| 04:24.46 | hell_razer | boytoy, use rvm, that will inform what do you need |
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| 04:25.29 | boytoy | hell_razer: i am |
| 04:26.00 | boytoy | just trying to add some order to one of the dependency lists of my new webapp |
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| 04:28.45 | hell_razer | boytoy, yum have problem with ruby or gem? |
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| 04:29.12 | hell_razer | boytoy, *you |
| 04:29.14 | boytoy | nope |
| 04:29.16 | boytoy | im good |
| 04:30.07 | nkuttler | boytoy: fwiw, apt-get build-dep ruby should install what you need |
| 04:30.28 | boytoy | got a pretty good explanation over in #gnu about which tool does what so |
| 04:30.33 | boytoy | yep thats cool |
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| 04:38.43 | _DomY-Dom | How do I install these module dependencies for apache: linux-vdso.so.1 , libpthread.so.0 , libc.so.6 and /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 |
| 04:38.46 | _DomY-Dom | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:38.53 | _DomY-Dom | (for debian of course) |
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| 04:42.21 | somiaj | _DomY-Dom: those are some strange libs to just need. |
| 04:42.37 | _DomY-Dom | somiaj: I need them for mod_proxy.so for apache |
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| 04:43.02 | somiaj | _DomY-Dom: and where did you get this mod_proxy.so from, those are like core libs, it is almost like you have a incomadabily binary on your system |
| 04:43.43 | _DomY-Dom | somiaj: Well I did ldd /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_proxy.so |
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| 04:44.12 | _DomY-Dom | somiaj: I'm trying to figure out which dependencies are missing for mod_proxy.so which is an apache module that doesn't load because it seems that it doesn't have some of the dependencies |
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| 04:46.56 | _DomY-Dom | somiaj: Essentially I'm trying to get node and apache to run at the same time. I made a virtual host for node in apache and am trying to proxy over the requests. However the "ProxyRequests" didn't work because the module was |
| 04:47.01 | _DomY-Dom | n't loaded so I tried loading the module but it didn't load and I was told that I needed these dependencies. |
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| 04:49.11 | phix | _DomY-Dom: I usually just create symlinks or use the apache mod script to enable modules |
| 04:49.25 | phix | mod_proxy is core, so you dont need to install anything else to use it, just link it in mods-enabled |
| 04:50.12 | _DomY-Dom | phix: how do I do that sorry ? I was trying LoadModule proxy_module modules/mod_proxy.so inside the apache virtual host |
| 04:51.43 | phix | _DomY-Dom: sudo ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/proxy.* /etc/apache2/mods-enabled. |
| 04:51.59 | phix | _DomY-Dom: oops, /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ |
| 04:52.37 | phix | there are other proxy modules in there too, have a look at them (use nano or less to read them) and see ifyou need them also |
| 04:52.43 | _DomY-Dom | phix: so now the proxy module is enabled ? |
| 04:52.51 | phix | yes |
| 04:53.04 | phix | then you restart apache for them to enable |
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| 04:54.54 | phix | sudo service apache2 restart |
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| 05:00.46 | _DomY-Dom | phix: thumbs: Hi ok it works, node runs on 1337 and apache on 80 however I want to not have to put a :1337 on the subdomain |
| 05:00.49 | _DomY-Dom | 05:00 < _DomY-Dom> thumbs: cause if I just go to example.domain.com I get an internal server error, but if I go on example.domain.com:1337 it works |
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| 05:00.53 | _DomY-Dom | thank you very much indeed btw |
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| 05:01.41 | phix | _DomY-Dom: then don't |
| 05:01.56 | phix | why are you using a different port for a sub-domain? |
| 05:02.06 | phix | apache supports virtual hosting on different sub-domains |
| 05:02.06 | _DomY-Dom | phix: cause it's using nodejs |
| 05:02.10 | phix | what is that? |
| 05:02.15 | _DomY-Dom | phix: and apache and node can't run on the same port |
| 05:02.26 | _DomY-Dom | phix: http://nodejs.org/ |
| 05:02.41 | phix | so use mod proxy, it can proxy it entirely without the user knowing it is going through a proxy |
| 05:02.49 | _DomY-Dom | phix: [warn] proxy: No protocol handler was valid for the URL /. If you are using a DSO version of mod_proxy, make sure the proxy submodules are included in the configuration using LoadModule. |
| 05:03.02 | _DomY-Dom | phix: that's what the error log says |
| 05:03.48 | _DomY-Dom | phix: what I mean is that example.domain.com:1337 but example.domain.com gives an internal error |
| 05:04.21 | phix | ProxyPass / http://example.domain.com:1337 |
| 05:04.33 | _DomY-Dom | phix alright will try one sec |
| 05:04.52 | phix | ok so that means you need to enable the http mod proxy too |
| 05:04.53 | phix | just link it |
| 05:05.17 | phix | I recommend reading the docs at apache.org |
| 05:05.20 | phix | for mod proxy |
| 05:05.26 | phix | there are examples there too |
| 05:05.41 | phix | all else fails goto #apache, they may be able to give you apache specific help in there |
| 05:05.42 | _DomY-Dom | phix: and for ProxyPassReverse / http://example.domain.com:1337 as well ? |
| 05:05.53 | phix | no idea :) |
| 05:06.27 | phix | sencha: wooooo! |
| 05:06.40 | sencha | phix, :P |
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| 05:06.51 | phix | <3 |
| 05:07.49 | phix | _DomY-Dom: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy.html |
| 05:08.25 | _DomY-Dom | phix: apparently I'm missing the HTTP protocol that comes with mod_proxy |
| 05:08.43 | phix | _DomY-Dom: you need to link it from mods-avaiable to mods-enabled |
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| 05:09.06 | phix | _DomY-Dom: read the other proxy modules in there too as you may need some of the others |
| 05:09.14 | phix | I thought I said that already |
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| 05:09.58 | _DomY-Dom | phix: this is the one http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy_http.html |
| 05:10.04 | otters | so when I ssh -X onto my Debian VPS from my OSX laptop and run xclock, I get "error: Can't open display" |
| 05:10.08 | otters | with no display given |
| 05:10.12 | otters | what am I missing? $DISPLAY isn't set |
| 05:10.51 | phix | DISPLAY should be set |
| 05:11.01 | otters | I know, but it isn't |
| 05:11.25 | _DomY-Dom | phix: ln -s phix so I ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/proxy_http.* /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ ? |
| 05:11.36 | phix | otters: An attacker may then be able to perform activities such as keystroke monitoring. |
| 05:11.37 | _DomY-Dom | ignore the first ln -s * |
| 05:11.39 | phix | For this reason, X11 forwarding is subjected to X11 SECURITY extension restrictions by default. Please refer to the ssh -Y option and the ForwardX11Trusted directive in ssh_config(5) for more information. |
| 05:11.55 | _DomY-Dom | phix: ? |
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| 05:12.33 | phix | _DomY-Dom: correct |
| 05:12.41 | phix | however there should only be one file there, .olad |
| 05:12.45 | phix | .load even |
| 05:13.38 | _DomY-Dom | phix: could you tell me the exact command please ? |
| 05:13.59 | phix | otters: That is from the ssh man file, looks like you need to enable the option on your sshd first before it allows you to use -X, you should specify ForwardX11Trusted directive as discribed in the man page |
| 05:14.09 | _DomY-Dom | phix: ?? |
| 05:14.11 | phix | _DomY-Dom: what you had will work |
| 05:14.23 | _DomY-Dom | phix: no I get 503 |
| 05:14.34 | phix | did you restart apache? |
| 05:14.52 | phix | did you read the mod proxy to find out how to use mod proxy? |
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| 05:15.23 | _DomY-Dom | phix: however problem: http://shocky.sperec.fr and http://shocky.sperec.fr:1337 |
| 05:15.27 | _DomY-Dom | phix: observe the difference |
| 05:16.26 | _DomY-Dom | phix: any idea why ? |
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| 05:16.45 | otters | okay so I actually set DISPLAY inside an init script |
| 05:16.58 | otters | is it getting clobbered |
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| 05:18.32 | phix | ok, just use ProxyPass |
| 05:18.33 | _DomY-Dom | phix: no it's fine I fixed it |
| 05:18.36 | _DomY-Dom | phix: missing slash |
| 05:18.38 | _DomY-Dom | phix: :D |
| 05:18.41 | _DomY-Dom | phix: thank you so much |
| 05:19.06 | phix | otters: You will probably find that X Forwarding isn't being enabled because your ssh server is rejecting it |
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| 05:19.29 | phix | otters: you need to have a configuration entry in your /etc/ssh/sshd_config or whatever it is called that states you want to allow X11 forwarding |
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| 05:21.40 | otters | yeah that was a waste of a reboot |
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| 05:24.50 | otters | okay, $DISPLAY STILL isn't getting set |
| 05:25.00 | otters | permissions are granted in /etc/ssh/ssh[d]_config |
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| 05:25.49 | otters | oh wait |
| 05:25.53 | otters | maybe it's because X11 isn't installed on my laptop |
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| 06:12.21 | grothendieck | what is worst case scenario with upgrading from squeeze to wheezy when proprietary nvidia drivers (from squeeze-backports) are in use? |
| 06:12.36 | grothendieck | having to SSH and reinstall the driver? |
| 06:13.51 | grothendieck | I switched to debian years ago from ubuntu because I had nothing but bad luck with ubuntu upgrades (almost always resulted in having to reinstall and restore from backup) |
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| 06:22.21 | nameless` | i installed an Ubuntu laptop for my chinese family but they don't know pin yin and they need to write the glyphe |
| 06:22.32 | nameless` | is such a virtual keyboard exists on Linux ? |
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| 06:28.32 | grothendieck | nameless`: does such a virtual keyboard exist on other operating systems? |
| 06:28.57 | uberushaximus | grothendieck: google has a pinyin ime for android and windows |
| 06:29.19 | grothendieck | it works on Android but not on GNU/Linux? |
| 06:29.32 | uberushaximus | Oh wait, /not/ pinyin |
| 06:29.44 | grothendieck | pinyin is supported in windows |
| 06:29.54 | grothendieck | s/windows/ubuntu|debian/ |
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| 06:30.29 | grothendieck | I just am not really sure what he is looking for |
| 06:31.07 | grothendieck | but then again, I don't know Chinese |
| 06:31.23 | grothendieck | in other words, good luck |
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| 06:36.04 | nkuttler | !zh |
| 06:36.04 | dpkg | 如果您想得到中文的帮助，请您移步本服务器上的#debian-zh频道，进入方式是在您现在输入文字的输入框中输入"/join #debian-zh" （不含引号），谢谢您的合作如果您想要得到中文的協助，請加入伺服器上的 #debian-zh (irc.oftc.net) 頻道，加入方法為在輸入框中輸入 "/server irc.oftc.net" 和 "/join #debian-zh" (不要加引號)，謝謝您的合作! |
| 06:36.13 | nkuttler | nameless`: ^^ chances are people there know |
| 06:38.38 | nameless` | hmm |
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| 06:38.48 | nameless` | yes it exists on other platforms |
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| 06:38.56 | sencha | nameless`, you could check out http://wiki.debian.org/I18n/ibus |
| 06:39.06 | sencha | nameless`, it's not a virtual keyboard, but it might be something that'll work |
| 06:39.19 | nameless` | cellwriter is the closest to what i look for |
| 06:39.31 | nkuttler | nameless`: gcin and hime also show up in apt |
| 06:39.32 | nameless` | but it needs to be train |
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| 07:50.33 | haridas | Hi, I'm using Debian 7 on experiment repo. My laptop is Dell Vostro 3440, I was trying to enable the scrolling option to my touchpad ?. It was not working. Is there any way to fix this issue ? |
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| 07:59.40 | Orbitrix | debian |
| 07:59.43 | Orbitrix | more like durrrrbian |
| 07:59.44 | Orbitrix | am i rite? |
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| 08:18.20 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps what init is the 'service app start' variet? upstart or something? |
| 08:18.28 | Eryn_1983_FL | where are theconfigs located |
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| 08:19.10 | Iridos | /etc/init.d/ |
| 08:19.19 | Eryn_1983_FL | mmm |
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| 08:19.38 | Eryn_1983_FL | not there.. |
| 08:19.48 | jelly-home | Eryn_1983_FL: Debian uses sysvinit by default. |
| 08:20.02 | Eryn_1983_FL | well my app didnt install right or something |
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| 08:20.17 | Eryn_1983_FL | it shows up with service but there is nothing in init.d |
| 08:20.25 | jelly-home | can you be more specific? |
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| 08:21.25 | jelly-home | Eryn_1983_FL: which debian release? How exactly did you install the service, which source was used, and do you have the logs of the installation? |
| 08:21.26 | Eryn_1983_FL | root@lyceus:~# service plexmediaserver start |
| 08:21.28 | Eryn_1983_FL | exec: 129: start: not found |
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| 08:21.59 | Eryn_1983_FL | it was with a .deb , its squeeze, nosources from apt, i suppose the logs are around |
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| 08:22.38 | jelly-home | Eryn_1983_FL: a first or third party .deb file built for squeeze, but not Debian? Where did you get it? |
| 08:22.44 | Eryn_1983_FL | and dpkg.log is utterly useless |
| 08:22.58 | Eryn_1983_FL | the webpage for plex |
| 08:22.59 | jelly-home | Eryn_1983_FL: I meant the output of the installation command. |
| 08:23.10 | jelly-home | Eryn_1983_FL: I have no idea what plex is. |
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| 08:23.13 | Eryn_1983_FL | https://previous.delicious.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fplexapp.com%2F |
| 08:23.14 | Iridos | you can see a packages content with dpkg -L <packagename> |
| 08:23.17 | Eryn_1983_FL | lol |
| 08:23.32 | Iridos | seems jelly-home is per-plex |
| 08:23.35 | Eryn_1983_FL | didnt know that |
| 08:24.09 | jelly-home | Eryn_1983_FL: I see no packages for Debian on http://plexapp.com/getplex/index.php |
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| 08:24.36 | jelly-home | !slap Iridos |
| 08:24.36 | dpkg | strikes a resounding *THWAP* across Iridos's face |
| 08:24.50 | Eryn_1983_FL | hmmm |
| 08:24.54 | Iridos | dpkg, kick jelly-home |
| 08:24.55 | dpkg | kicks jelly-home in the crotch. |
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| 08:25.30 | Eryn_1983_FL | i found the init.d but it links to upstart file that does not exsist, the link is broken, dum da dum dum da dum dum! |
| 08:25.48 | Iridos | of course. ubuntu uses upstart, debian does not |
| 08:25.57 | jelly-home | Eryn_1983_FL: they seem to support ubuntu, fedora and centos. Did you get the package for debian or ubuntu or what? |
| 08:26.01 | Eryn_1983_FL | guess i am gonna have to make one |
| 08:26.04 | Eryn_1983_FL | ubuntu. |
| 08:26.10 | Eryn_1983_FL | there is no debian one i saw |
| 08:26.12 | jelly-home | Eryn_1983_FL: well, that won't roll |
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| 08:26.27 | Eryn_1983_FL | i know square hole with a round peg |
| 08:26.45 | Iridos | all that needs is a big hammer :) |
| 08:26.56 | Eryn_1983_FL | this ubuntu only crap is pissing me off. |
| 08:27.04 | Eryn_1983_FL | make a generic damn deb |
| 08:27.10 | Eryn_1983_FL | or some freaking source |
| 08:27.57 | Eryn_1983_FL | ohh a pin for debian in the forums |
| 08:28.20 | nkuttler | Eryn_1983_FL: does that even come with sources? |
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| 08:28.28 | Eryn_1983_FL | nope |
| 08:28.36 | Eryn_1983_FL | bastards how dare they right? |
| 08:28.53 | nkuttler | Eryn_1983_FL: so ask them for support |
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| 08:30.22 | Iridos | I think he already found the forum post that does that, anyway |
| 08:30.22 | jelly-home | "don't mix packages for different distros, mkay" |
| 08:30.43 | ^DEMOSS^ | hi |
| 08:30.50 | ^DEMOSS^ | =) it's me |
| 08:31.26 | jelly-home | itsa you, mario |
| 08:31.46 | ^DEMOSS^ | i am do a sector-per-sector cipy of disk and wanna try do --force assemble with copy of disk )) |
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| 08:32.14 | Eryn_1983_FL | yeah |
| 08:32.21 | Eryn_1983_FL | me found it |
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| 08:34.00 | jelly-home | ^DEMOSS^: after you make images of all the disks, use "losetup" to create block devices out of each disk image; use kpartx to create partition devices, and then do the mdadm thing |
| 08:34.33 | XATRIX | Hi guys, i cant' start smartmontools. I do #service smartmontools start - it does nothing. |
| 08:35.00 | jelly-home | XATRIX: read /usr/share/doc/smartmontools/README.Debian |
| 08:35.11 | ^DEMOSS^ | o_O ?? why ? |
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| 08:36.26 | ^DEMOSS^ | if i do sector-per-sector copy of disk - they have 1 per 1 structure of original |
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| 08:36.33 | jelly-home | ^DEMOSS^: you just said you were making copies of disks. I assumed you were making image files on some storage. |
| 08:36.43 | ^DEMOSS^ | not image |
| 08:36.59 | ^DEMOSS^ | sector 1 copy to sector 1 |
| 08:37.04 | jelly-home | oh |
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| 08:37.24 | jelly-home | well then, just make sure to disconnect the originals before messing with the copies |
| 08:37.35 | ^DEMOSS^ | of course ) |
| 08:38.14 | ^DEMOSS^ | 1 hour 15 minutes to copy 1 tb disk ) |
| 08:38.57 | ^DEMOSS^ | i use 2 server for copy it - so after 2 hours i have coy of all disk ) |
| 08:38.58 | Iridos | XATRIX, you read /usr/share/doc/smartmontools/README.Debian? |
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| 08:39.20 | XATRIX | Iridos: reading in |
| 08:39.41 | jelly-home | ^DEMOSS^: did you pick the latest four, or the closest-event-count (oldest) four? |
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| 08:40.24 | ^DEMOSS^ | do You cross your fingers for me?^) |
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| 08:41.08 | ^DEMOSS^ | i do copy of all disk ( 5 vs 5 disks ) i do not doing anything yesterday |
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| 08:41.22 | jelly-home | good |
| 08:41.32 | ^DEMOSS^ | as i can see imust assemble only 4 disk |
| 08:41.53 | ^DEMOSS^ | where even count in closed range |
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| 08:42.44 | jelly-home | yes, and that would mean you'd use the ones with oldest event counts in this particular case |
| 08:42.49 | ^DEMOSS^ | it is aebc drive\ |
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| 08:43.48 | ^DEMOSS^ | oldest ? may be it is one drive who have some changes out of raid |
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| 08:44.42 | ^DEMOSS^ | i wanna use disks in closed range near small event count (---> aebc <---d--) |
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| 08:56.01 | pats_Toms | hi, I have x64 bit os and python, but I need the x32 one |
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| 08:56.25 | pats_Toms | how can I get that x32 one? |
| 08:56.31 | pats_Toms | compile from source? |
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| 09:04.37 | jelly-home | pats_Toms: debian does not support x32 arch yet... do you mean the usual 32bit x86 ABI, that Debian calls i386? |
| 09:05.20 | jelly-home | pats_Toms: you could use an i386 chroot created with debootstrap |
| 09:05.50 | pats_Toms | I need because of message "works on python for 32bit" |
| 09:06.01 | pats_Toms | I really don't know what architecture that menas |
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| 09:06.31 | pats_Toms | x32 not the same as 32bit? |
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| 09:06.35 | jelly-home | ok. x32 doesn't mean what you think it means, in that case. |
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| 09:07.59 | jelly-home | pats_Toms: use debootstrap to make a chroot with debian "i386" architecture, and install python and whatever else you need in it |
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| 09:09.03 | jelly-home | ^DEMOSS^: yeah, that's what I meant. The sdd3 member has the highest event count, ie. its the "latest" one that your dead NAS box still had access to |
| 09:09.29 | jelly-home | ^DEMOSS^: so the other four are "oldest" |
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| 09:11.31 | pats_Toms | jelly-home, but is there any way to resolve this with multiarch or something like that? |
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| 09:13.47 | jelly-home | pats_Toms: I don't think python is multiarch-ready yet |
| 09:14.21 | pats_Toms | ok, thanks jelly-home, I will try to setup it now |
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| 09:47.01 | tlund | I have some lenny boxes I want to upgrade to wheezy. Do i need to do lenny->squeeze->wheezy, or would lenny->wheezy work? |
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| 09:55.14 | BenNZ | tlund: youd be better of install fresh |
| 09:55.23 | BenNZ | *installing |
| 09:56.00 | bw_ | tlund: don't skip a release |
| 09:56.07 | tlund | BenNZ: uuuh.. what? |
| 09:56.09 | tlund | bw_: ok |
| 09:56.29 | tlund | bw_: .. why? :) |
| 09:57.18 | BenNZ | tlund: youd be better off installing wheezy , as opposed to updating to it from lenny , and use less bandwidth , going from lenny -> squeeze -> wheezy |
| 09:57.28 | bw_ | tlund: and check the upgrading docs, there a usefull information, like where to start, what packages to upgrade first (usually dpkg/apt-* and stuff) |
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| 09:58.26 | tlund | BenNZ: and .. how would I migrate the configuration of the server and its packages with such a reinstall? |
| 09:58.35 | brontosaurusrex | i cant remember what figlet/toilet font is this : http://pastebin.com/DTyquERD |
| 09:58.36 | brontosaurusrex | any clues? |
| 09:58.38 | bw_ | tlund: i'm not 100% sure, but afair debian upgrade process is trimmed to not skipping a release, but might be just a feeling %) |
| 09:58.46 | tlund | bw_: are you suggesting a dist-upgrade is not the correct procedure? |
| 09:59.11 | bw_ | tlund: dist-upgrade is right, but you might want to upgrade dpkg/apt prior |
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| 10:00.04 | tlund | bw_: the other packages depends should take care of upgrading those essential packets first. |
| 10:00.34 | jacksmithz | does nitrogen/feh use xsetroot, or are they independent of xsetroot? |
| 10:01.04 | bw_ | tlund: i can't remember where i read it, but it was advised to upgrade dpkg/apt prior to dist-upgrade |
| 10:01.46 | bw_ | bascily: (lenny) apt-get upgrade ; change source.list to squeeze ; apt-get upgrade ; update dpkg and stuff ; then dist-upgrade |
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| 10:02.22 | bw_ | tlund: you might wanna take a look at: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
| 10:02.24 | yalu | allright, I searched for about a day into a strange problem with exim (process takes half a minute to send mail) and noticed this in comparison to a (better) working system: in the debug output, the line "configuration file is /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated" is missing |
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| 10:08.56 | Night_Elf | Hello all. I am trying to configure a printer, Xerox WorkCentre 5645, which should to acounting and needs accounting user id and group id. It is not working and the printer gives out a page with "The job was deleted due to invalid accounting IDs". By googling, I see that many people have the same problem. So then, is there a working PPD for this printer which we can use? |
| 10:09.58 | pats_Toms | hi again |
| 10:10.14 | pats_Toms | I created screen with "uname -a" here http://www.bildites.lv/images/ytm65v2xmgjlb8vpt191.png |
| 10:10.18 | pats_Toms | I installed debian 32bit |
| 10:10.39 | pats_Toms | bot @uname I got i686 |
| 10:10.45 | pats_Toms | is it what I need? :/ |
| 10:11.23 | Sm0ke0ut | yes |
| 10:11.44 | Sm0ke0ut | 32bit equals i386 - i686 |
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| 10:18.53 | phix | Sm0ke0ut: 64bit == i386 - i686 too :) |
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| 10:19.20 | Sm0ke0ut | not in uname? |
| 10:19.25 | jelly | pats_Toms: yes |
| 10:19.34 | phix | you can get i386 16bit as wekk |
| 10:19.35 | Sm0ke0ut | shows here as x86_64 |
| 10:19.35 | phix | well* |
| 10:19.46 | Sm0ke0ut | hmm, ok :) |
| 10:20.07 | jelly | Sm0ke0ut: the right way to look at that information is: dpkg --print-architecture |
| 10:20.18 | phix | it ix86 doesnt specifiy the bit width |
| 10:20.19 | jelly | you might have a 64bit kernel and a 32bit distro |
| 10:20.29 | phix | s/it/intel/ |
| 10:20.29 | jelly | phix: context is important, however |
| 10:20.30 | Sm0ke0ut | yeah true, my bad |
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| 10:20.41 | phix | jelly: exactly |
| 10:20.45 | phix | context is everything |
| 10:21.47 | jelly | phix: and we're in #debian, where "i386" has a very specific meaning so <phix> Sm0ke0ut: 64bit == i386 - i686 too :) would be misleading |
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| 10:24.11 | phix | jelly: hmmmm, perhaps debian has a specific definition for it, but computer science wise that statement is incorrect |
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| 10:25.20 | jelly | phix: yeah, you're missing the context |
| 10:25.31 | phix | I see |
| 10:25.48 | korhojoa | how is i686 64-bit? |
| 10:26.02 | phix | korhojoa: it isn't, but it doesnt mean 32bit either |
| 10:26.13 | phix | but it can |
| 10:26.20 | phix | you can have a 64bit i686 computer |
| 10:26.25 | jelly | drop it, you're digging yourself in deeper and it does not help |
| 10:26.33 | phix | I am asnwering korhojoa's question |
| 10:26.58 | phix | korhojoa: jelly it s right, drop it, this is out of topic |
| 10:27.30 | phix | We need to speak in context to debian's marketing terms |
| 10:27.33 | phix | or what ever oyu call it |
| 10:27.39 | jelly | !arch |
| 10:27.39 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, arch is a hardware architecture (i386, amd64, armel, mips, mipsel, sparc, powerpc, alpha, hppa, s390 && ia64). Also a source control revision system (GNU arch). Arch (and its twin brother ArX) resides at http://arch.fifthvision.net/, or http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5928, or #arch Since lenny, /bin/arch has disappeared, use "uname -m" instead, or <architecture>, or <arch linux>. |
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| 10:28.49 | jelly | phix: the first sentence lists (almost all of) current architectures known to dpkg. Each denotes a separate ABI |
| 10:29.10 | invariant | With what permissions does /etc/ld.so.preload preload things? root? |
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| 10:29.58 | phix | jelly: ok |
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| 10:30.16 | phix | ls: cannot access /etc/ld.so.preload: No such file or directory |
| 10:30.28 | jelly | invariant: it would be whichever called execve() |
| 10:30.35 | jelly | whichever user* |
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| 10:31.33 | jelly | yeah, it does not exist in normal conditions |
| 10:32.05 | pats_Toms | thanks jelly, "dpkg --print-architecture" shows i386 |
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| 10:32.43 | jelly | pats_Toms: thus the packaged python within that chroot (and almost anything else in it) is 32bit |
| 10:34.36 | phix | I like python |
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| 10:36.27 | Towzzer | python is very good, it just needs a JIT or something like APC |
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| 10:38.16 | bw_ | Towzzer: what about pypy? |
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| 11:17.55 | r4co0n | hello. i am currently connecting via ssh to my home pc running wheezy from a laptop/tablet-thingy running connectbot for android. I got a german hardware keyboard with that device, but apparently, after submitting the password the keymap gets broken, no more symbols in the right place nor umlauts. I guess I can fix this with a simple loadkeys command. But I don't know how exactly and where the keymaps are stored. |
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| 11:20.35 | ChrisH | loadkeys de |
| 11:21.24 | r4co0n | ChrisH, "Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console" |
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| 11:21.53 | boudiccas | i've just had the curious situation ion that i "lost" 20gigs off my h/d. they were shown to be lost in conky, dolphin, logwatch, and various scripts. So i reboot for the first time in 15 days, and they've reappeared! conky now shows root as haveing 24.6gig, as does dolphin too. so where was it please?and can i recover it without rebooting in the future? |
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| 11:23.34 | ChrisH | boudiccas: what do you mean by "lost" and how did yoy detect it? |
| 11:24.18 | boudiccas | ChrisH: conky showed root as having only 190mbs, instead of the expected 25gigs |
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| 11:24.43 | boudiccas | this was also born out in logwatch and dolphin too |
| 11:24.45 | r4co0n | ChrisH, as root: cannot open file de |
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| 11:26.15 | jacksmithz | is there a python-gtk3 package for debian? |
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| 11:26.47 | ChrisH | boudiccas: what is conky? |
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| 11:29.49 | boudiccas | ChrisH: a script that runs and outputs to the desktop giving a continuous updated display of information, http://www.sharons.org.uk/taste/index.html, the posting headed 'Conky' and dated 1/1/13 |
| 11:30.05 | ChrisH | boudiccas: did you use standard tools like du/df to verify that? From the explanation it sounds like unlinked files |
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| 11:31.40 | boudiccas | ChrisH: no, i used no tools as i wasn’t aware of them, i was in semi-panic mode! |
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| 11:33.27 | hyppias | where is the mailx config file? |
| 11:33.52 | boudiccas | correction, i used df in a script i used, and it showed .. /dev/disk/by-uuid/6f41c38a-fa88-4f63-a6cc-dd5643c8598d 287G 270G 2.3G 100% / |
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| 11:35.11 | ChrisH | boudiccas I just prepare an expample on unlinked files. |
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| 11:38.38 | ChrisH | boudiccas: http://paste.debian.net/236666/ |
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| 11:40.01 | ari_elle | -wc |
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| 11:44.41 | fruct | hello all! please help me install boot loader on raid on scsi hdd's? |
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| 11:45.30 | ChrisH | fruct: where is the problem? its the same as non raid SCSI Disks. |
| 11:46.47 | fruct | ChrisH, there is error while install on md0 |
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| 11:48.03 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell fruct about smart questions |
| 11:48.31 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell fruct about ask |
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| 11:55.00 | boudiccas | ChrisH: thanks for that, been working through it and trying out the commands, most instructive, thanks. |
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| 11:55.17 | HardDisk_WP | Hi |
| 11:55.23 | HardDisk_WP | With echo foo >> bar, I can append |
| 11:55.32 | HardDisk_WP | but does something exist for prepend, too? |
| 11:56.16 | koshie | Hi |
| 11:56.27 | ChrisH | HardDisk_WP: nothing I am aware of. I also never needed that. |
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| 11:56.35 | koshie | Someone know if I can put debian squeeze security repo into a testing without conflict ? |
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| 11:57.05 | koshie | By reading the debian website I think I've understand that but I prefer to ask. |
| 11:57.21 | nkuttler | koshie: there won't be conflicts but it won't do anything either |
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| 11:58.03 | koshie | nkuttler: oh |
| 11:58.17 | koshie | gimme a minute to found the sentance which gimme this idea, but in english. |
| 11:58.19 | nkuttler | !tell koshie about wheezy security |
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| 11:58.45 | koshie | Please note that security updates for “testing” distribution are not yet managed by the security team. Hence, “testing” does not get security updates in a timely manner. You are encouraged to switch your sources.list entries from testing to squeeze for the time being if you need security support. See also the entry in the Security Team's FAQ for the “testing” distribution. |
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| 11:58.56 | koshie | I'm not english so I've maybe not understand correctly |
| 11:59.22 | HardDisk_WP | kk |
| 11:59.34 | nkuttler | koshie: that's... bizarre. though i guess there are a few packages that haven't been updated since squeeze release |
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| 11:59.48 | koshie | So I've only to keep my testing up-to-date |
| 11:59.58 | koshie | And don't let peoples know my server's running testing ;) |
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| 12:02.18 | koshie | just for a anyway thanks nkuttler |
| 12:02.23 | koshie | '_' |
| 12:02.29 | koshie | s/just for a/ |
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| 12:14.06 | TheGrey | o/ On Debian Wheezy 64bit how can one install Skype? |
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| 12:15.40 | ChrisH | !skype |
| 12:15.40 | dpkg | Skype is a proprietary cross-platform <VoIP> service and application owned by Microsoft. Debian cannot distribute the application due to its restrictive license and is therefore not supported in #debian. See http://wiki.debian.org/skype and ask me about <skype squeeze> for community-contributed information. Consider using a free software alternative such as <ekiga>, <empathy> or <linphone>. |
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| 12:17.07 | HardDisk_WP | abrotman, just fyi, my FTP file system is at https://github.com/msmuenchen/php-ftpfs |
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| 12:17.44 | TheGrey | ChrisH: cheers. Is there an opensource/FOSS alternative to Skype you can recommend? |
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| 12:19.13 | RoenieLap | is iseweasel a good alternative to firefox? does it support the xmarks add-on? |
| 12:19.18 | RoenieLap | *ice |
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| 12:19.56 | RoenieLap | i should i become.... phantom of the opera |
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| 12:20.10 | RoenieLap | *or should i |
| 12:20.31 | Coweater | iceweasel is firefox with branding and other small changes, debian's versions are probably a bit dated, but most add-ons will work |
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| 12:20.45 | RoenieLap | good enough for me |
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| 12:21.12 | RoenieLap | if there is one thing i hate, it's the 6-weelky firefox updates |
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| 12:21.22 | RoenieLap | *weekly, stupid netbook |
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| 12:22.24 | ChrisH | TheGrey: I use skype on Linux and also another SIP client of which I forgot the name. |
| 12:23.10 | TheGrey | ChrisH: cool. It seems that skype doesn't support 64bit architexture. Is there a trick to install it? |
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| 12:25.07 | ChrisH | TheGrey: did you check what dpkg explained you? |
| 12:26.06 | TheGrey | Not clearly enough, but now done so. I asked because you said you run Skype on lInux, so I though there'd be no problem asking, apologies :) |
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| 12:28.09 | RoenieLap | is there something like apt-get autoremove but only looking at packages that stem ftom package XYZ? |
| 12:28.15 | ChrisH | TheGrey: Skype did changed the downloadable binary several times and I got one without multiarch support. |
| 12:28.56 | RoenieLap | i keep doing apt-get purge <package> and then apt-get autoremove |
| 12:29.16 | RoenieLap | there must be a way to just get rid of that in one go? |
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| 12:30.01 | ChrisH | RoenieLap: IIRC apt-get and aptiude handle removal of automatic selected package dependencies different. |
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| 12:30.52 | RoenieLap | yes aptitude remove also gets rid of the automatic deps, or so i have read |
| 12:31.06 | crevillo | hello, i have php5.4 using dotdeb packages. but when i try to install php5-dev it installs php5-dev/squeeze uptodate 5.3.3-7+squeeze14 |
| 12:31.10 | RoenieLap | not quite sure how well it works, but that still leaves you with the config files |
| 12:31.31 | crevillo | as a result, (i think) when i try to use pecl for apc install, it ends saying than php and apc are compiled with differnet versions |
| 12:31.33 | crevillo | any ideas? |
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| 12:38.28 | RoenieLap | any good Qt browsers? |
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| 12:39.09 | RoenieLap | (apart from that explorer wannabe i suppose) |
| 12:39.23 | crevillo | forget it, solved :) |
| 12:39.36 | RoenieLap | forget what? |
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| 12:41.45 | ChrisH | RoenieLap: to get rid of coonfigfiles you need purge |
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| 12:42.01 | RoenieLap | ty |
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| 12:43.03 | RoenieLap | oh man...i turned my main rig into a debian box, base install with Xorg and i3 on top |
| 12:43.15 | RoenieLap | soooooo much faster than the same machine was on win7 |
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| 12:43.52 | ChrisH | and installing and keeping it up-to-date is much easier and faster |
| 12:44.02 | RoenieLap | iceweasel feels great |
| 12:44.10 | RoenieLap | my firefox on win7 was slow as hell |
| 12:44.30 | ChrisH | and Win7 is the frist windows I do tend to kill someone after using it for 60min |
| 12:44.49 | RoenieLap | i actually like it |
| 12:45.01 | RoenieLap | it just requires a monster pc to keep some pace |
| 12:45.20 | RoenieLap | my 4GB of ram isn't even enough imho |
| 12:45.45 | RoenieLap | in fact reached max commit when i did not have a pagefile set |
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| 12:50.20 | adaminsull | Hi |
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| 12:50.42 | adaminsull | I got debian on my server and WP to twitter plugin says time is out of sync |
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| 12:50.46 | adaminsull | How do I fix this? |
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| 12:51.18 | local | anyone does know if there is a debian package available for Debian Squeeze? |
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| 12:51.59 | ChrisH | adaminsull: use ntp |
| 12:52.06 | adaminsull | I can |
| 12:52.08 | adaminsull | cant* |
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| 12:52.39 | ChrisH | adaminsull: -v please |
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| 12:53.19 | jelly | local: a package for...? |
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| 12:54.55 | local | jelly: sorry I forgot :) haha... For samba4 |
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| 12:55.10 | adaminsull | ChrisH ntpdate -s |
| 12:55.10 | adaminsull | -bash: ntpdate: command not found |
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| 12:57.51 | ChrisH | adaminsull: and why cant you install ntp ? I did not recommend to use ntpdate |
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| 12:59.30 | adaminsull | oh ntp |
| 12:59.33 | adaminsull | I got that |
| 12:59.39 | adaminsull | now what? |
| 12:59.58 | jelly | local: there is no backport of samba4 for squeeze, it seems: /msg judd versions samba4 |
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| 13:03.01 | adaminsull | ChrisH I did apt-get install ntp |
| 13:03.04 | adaminsull | now what? |
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| 13:03.15 | ChrisH | adaminsull: install and let it start. check it using: ntpq -p |
| 13:03.48 | adaminsull | how do I install it? |
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| 13:05.57 | ChrisH | adaminsull: ehm. is that server you run accessible from internet? |
| 13:06.10 | adaminsull | I have an admin panel yes |
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| 13:06.22 | adaminsull | I have to configure WP to Twitter |
| 13:07.26 | ChrisH | adaminsull: you did already install using: 14:03 < adaminsull> ChrisH I did apt-get install ntp |
| 13:07.35 | adaminsull | oh lol |
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| 13:07.43 | adaminsull | how do I confiqure it then |
| 13:07.44 | roestzwiee | hey guys, |
| 13:07.51 | adaminsull | My ssh is broken |
| 13:07.53 | adaminsull | for now |
| 13:08.07 | adaminsull | oh its back |
| 13:08.20 | ChrisH | adaminsull: and normally it starts up. so check using ntpq -p #if you are unsure about the output, paste it to paste.debian.net |
| 13:08.22 | roestzwiee | i found the libkeyutils.so.1.9 on one of my servers and have questions about |
| 13:08.51 | roestzwiee | is the file libkeyutils.so.1 and libkeyutils.so.1.3 also infecting my server? |
| 13:08.54 | adaminsull | ChrisH http://paste.debian.net/236800/ |
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| 13:09.02 | adaminsull | Is that correct for twitter timezone? |
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| 13:09.26 | dbe | Which kernel is latest stable in squeeze? |
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| 13:09.45 | ChrisH | adaminsull: puh, lets wait for 5min and then show me the output again, best edit this paste. |
| 13:09.49 | jrabbit | dbe: check packages.debian.org |
| 13:09.56 | adaminsull | ok |
| 13:10.13 | adaminsull | how do I edit it? |
| 13:10.16 | jelly | dbe: /msg judd kernels |
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| 13:10.57 | ChrisH | roestzwiee: Roestzwiebel? check aptitude search libkeyutils to find oout what this is lib is coming from and doing. |
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| 13:11.33 | dbe | Thanks. |
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| 13:13.09 | roestzwiee | ChrisH: thanks, so it is not maligne? right? |
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| 13:15.08 | ChrisH | roestzwiee: ACK |
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| 13:16.59 | roestzwiee | ChrisH: ty |
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| 13:24.22 | hyppias | how can I remove all the x11 stuff ? I want a console-only server.... |
| 13:24.37 | phix | apt-get remove x11-server? |
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| 13:25.14 | hyppias | i'll try thnx |
| 13:25.28 | ruo91_ | apt-get purge x11-server? |
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| 13:34.33 | jelly | phix, ruo91_: there is no package named x11-server, dudes |
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| 13:34.57 | jelly | dpkg, tell hyppias about remove x |
| 13:34.58 | adaminsull | date --set 13:34:00 |
| 13:34.58 | adaminsull | date: cannot set date: Operation not permitted |
| 13:35.01 | adaminsull | Any idea? |
| 13:35.06 | jelly | adaminsull: be root. |
| 13:35.14 | adaminsull | use sudo? |
| 13:35.18 | adaminsull | or ssh as root?? |
| 13:35.31 | jelly | adaminsull: it doesn't matter which way you become root |
| 13:35.38 | adaminsull | It still didnt work |
| 13:36.11 | jelly | adaminsull: not even as root? is this a virtual machine? |
| 13:36.17 | adaminsull | Its a VPS |
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| 13:36.27 | adaminsull | Using SSH to use it |
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| 13:36.41 | jelly | adaminsull: contact your provider and ask them to fix the clock if it's incorrect |
| 13:36.49 | adaminsull | ok |
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| 13:44.51 | ruo91_ | jelly try apt-get autoremove --purge xorg x11-common |
| 13:44.53 | DebianUsr | Hello again all. Still trying to set my wireless network up. I think I got it except when I hit the Wireless toggle. it says this: ipw2200: Failed to send CARD_DISABLE: command timed out. - How can I fix this? My wireless toggle says this also is keep blinking every other two seconds |
| 13:45.06 | hyppias | jelly: indeed I found x11-common to be the one. I'm on a raspberr Pi, with Debian |
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| 13:45.32 | jelly | ruo91_: I don't have an issue with this. |
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| 13:46.09 | jelly | hyppias: great! |
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| 13:46.25 | DebianUsr | Well first it says ipw2200: Failed to send SCAN_ABORT: Command timed out, then it says CARD_DISABLE |
| 13:47.58 | DebianUsr | Would anyone know? |
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| 13:49.27 | abrotman | DebianUsr: have you looked at teh rfkill program? |
| 13:50.11 | DebianUsr | abrotman: I have tried but it does not contain on the system, even though I downloaded all eight images on cd' - It doesnt have it, why, I dont know. |
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| 13:50.33 | DebianUsr | abrotman: What I meant was just the CD1 was needed, and it di dnot install it |
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| 13:57.52 | fruct1 | hello all! please help me install boot loader on raid on scsi hdd's? I try install debian by manual http://www.texsoft.it/index.php?c=hardware&m=hw.storage.boot-raid-squeeze but first boot failed with error: can't mount root VFS |
| 13:59.07 | abrotman | fruct1: are you sure it's really hwraid? |
| 13:59.22 | abrotman | DebianUsr: you don't have wired internet? |
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| 13:59.40 | fruct1 | abrotman, no I use software raid1 |
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| 14:00.03 | DebianUsr | abrotman: I do, I can easily connect the ethernet cable, but even then how will I take the ethernet off and activate the wireless? I do not wish to use wired the entire time for it. |
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| 14:01.58 | abrotman | DebianUsr: i asked you if you have the rfkill package installed |
| 14:02.38 | DebianUsr | abrotman: I must of misread and didn't see it, no I do not. |
| 14:02.45 | phix | DebianUsr: depends if you are using wpasupplicants, iwconfig (wep or no security) or network manager |
| 14:03.24 | DebianUsr | phix: The installer installed everything. all 'wireless-tools' |
| 14:03.33 | phix | I see |
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| 14:05.20 | ChrisH | fruct1: this messsage does not look like boot loader is incorrect, but initrd does not know about md setup. |
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| 14:16.51 | DebianUsr | abrotman: : And also, x is not working properly, I installed the system, and did a startx in the shell (as root), and it went to a screen that said login@hostname [] <- where login and hostname is set obviously. then freezes. I was reading that its a bad configuration, but the installer did it not me. |
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| 14:17.56 | abrotman | DebianUsr: i'm really glad you've completely ignored my question twice. |
| 14:18.13 | DebianUsr | I didnt ignore you abrotman : Check! |
| 14:18.19 | abrotman | DebianUsr: DebianUsr maybe you should fix one problem at a time |
| 14:18.31 | abrotman | DebianUsr: yes, I can see you finally answereed me .. fix one problem at a time |
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| 14:19.28 | abrotman | DebianUsr: so which problem would you like to concentrate on? |
| 14:19.43 | DebianUsr | The wireless if you do not mind abrotman |
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| 14:22.05 | fruct1 | ChrisH, how tell initrd about md? =) |
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| 14:23.52 | babilen | DebianUsr: Please read your IRC logs from two days ago -- did you install wheezy (using the firmware netinst installer) as I suggested or did you install the rfkill program manually? |
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| 14:24.39 | babilen | DebianUsr: IIRC you wanted to disable the encryption because it did not accept your passphrase (for some reason) |
| 14:25.22 | DebianUsr | babilen: I am going on the wheezy cd's (all 8 lol). I couldn't find the firmware netinst installer. No I didn't install it manually, let me see about it now. |
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| 14:26.50 | babilen | DebianUsr: Ah, well. You /never/ need all CDs unless you have no internet connection at all. You installed XFCE via the desktop task and you are connected to the internet via ethernet right now, aren't you? |
| 14:27.48 | DebianUsr | I am not babilen. When I did the "XFCE" via the desktop task <advanced options, etc>, it still brought me to a command line after install. |
| 14:28.00 | DebianUsr | babilen: No I am not on the internet, only with my other PC I am. |
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| 14:28.51 | babilen | DebianUsr: Well, you probably needed firmware that you didn't supply. Hang on, I'll paste my IRC logs from two days ago. |
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| 14:29.12 | babilen | DebianUsr: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/7883ca28/ |
| 14:29.15 | DebianUsr | babilen: : I am on web chat right now until I can get this figured out. Sorry |
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| 14:29.32 | abrotman | not sure what webchat has to do with it |
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| 14:29.54 | babilen | DebianUsr: Ok, just to clarify: Can you connect your Debian installation via ethernet? |
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| 14:30.27 | DebianUsr | babilen: I dont know never tried it during the installation. |
| 14:31.56 | babilen | DebianUsr: And did you configure your wireless network during the installation? I remember that you had problems with entering your passphrase and that you wanted to try to disable encryption? |
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| 14:33.21 | DebianUsr | babilen: I think I did.when I type the networking commands (ifup lspci, iwlist) they all see the card and ip address, but for some reason the wireless toggle will not work. and also for some reason iwlist works and recognizes it but ifconfig does not. |
| 14:33.33 | babilen | DebianUsr: But can you connect it /now/ ? Also why didn't you connect it during the installation? That would have made a lot of things much easier. As indicated when we spoke two days ago: You probably need firmware for your graphic card and you definitely need it for your wireless card. You can use an installation image with firmware (/msg dpkg firmware images wheezy) or supply firmware during the installation (/msg dpkg installer firmware wheezy) |
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| 14:34.21 | babilen | DebianUsr: Ok, is the ethernet cable plugged in now? Can you "ping debian.org" ? |
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| 14:34.29 | ChrisH | fruct1: is this a fresh installation? Debian installer does it normally without any problems. or at least I never had any |
| 14:34.36 | DebianUsr | No it isnt plugged in babilen Let me plug it in |
| 14:35.01 | babilen | ChrisH: Well, you /have/ to plug in the cable ;) |
| 14:35.12 | babilen | Ah, ENICK. Sorry |
| 14:35.23 | abrotman | run away ... |
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| 14:37.22 | DammitJim | I'm trying to do a remote installation of wheezy using ssh |
| 14:37.25 | DebianUsr | running away from problems is not the answer abrotman :X |
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| 14:37.38 | burek | is there a way to use linux "mail" command to delete all emails with exactly the same subject |
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| 14:37.43 | DammitJim | but when I try to ssh, I enter the password I supplied and it just says: Connection closed |
| 14:37.50 | DebianUsr | babilen: : plugged in, pinged debian.org, unknown host debian.org |
| 14:38.02 | DammitJim | I accepted the fingerprint supplied |
| 14:38.52 | babilen | DebianUsr: Ok, please run "ifconfig eth0 up ; dhclient eth0" - do you get an address and can you ping now? |
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| 14:39.45 | DebianUsr | babilen: yes. and ping works so internet works |
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| 14:41.23 | babilen | DebianUsr: Wonderful -- Could you take a look at your /etc/apt/sources.list (cat /etc/apt/sources.list) -- Does it resemble http://paste.debian.net/236948/ ? |
| 14:41.45 | DebianUsr | No where near that. I can assure you |
| 14:41.54 | DebianUsr | I will add them |
| 14:41.59 | babilen | DebianUsr: Ok, do you know how to edit it? |
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| 14:42.05 | DebianUsr | babilen: : sure do |
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| 14:42.50 | jelly | http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/wiki.debian.org :-| |
| 14:43.21 | awktion | wiki is down |
| 14:43.25 | babilen | DebianUsr: Ok, those entries are /everything/ you need. You can probably just run "wget http://paste.debian.net/download/236948 -O sources.list" and then "mv sources.list /etc/apt" |
| 14:43.33 | babilen | jelly: Yeah, scheduled downtime. |
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| 14:43.49 | babilen | jelly: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.infrastructure.announce/101 |
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| 14:45.35 | galaxyAbstractor | Hi, I'm trying to add a swap-file following this guide http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/, but I get "swapon: /swap: swapon failed: Operation not permitted", even though I'm root |
| 14:45.39 | DebianUsr | babilen: : ok, grabbed it and apt-get updated. |
| 14:45.45 | babilen | DebianUsr: Done? If so please run "apt-get update ; apt-get install rfkill firmware-linux-nonfree firmware-ipw2x00 libapp-nopaste-perl" |
| 14:45.52 | awktion | http://pastebin.com/czs6VmAr |
| 14:45.52 | galaxyAbstractor | Any ideas? It's not everyday I use debian so I have no idea |
| 14:45.58 | babilen | DebianUsr: Ah, no need to update twice :) |
| 14:45.59 | awktion | Who maintains the wiki? |
| 14:46.12 | DebianUsr | Hmm.. the ; parameter must be to do several commands in one line ? |
| 14:46.31 | babilen | DebianUsr: yes, no need to run the "apt-get update" subcommand |
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| 14:47.33 | babilen | DebianUsr: Did that work? |
| 14:48.00 | DebianUsr | babilen: Thank you for the info. Wow its installing alot. install done. and also an update small but still an update it did on the ipw firmware. |
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| 14:48.57 | babilen | DebianUsr: Ok, could you run "lspci -nn|nopaste" and give me the resulting URL? Did you install XFCE and the graphical system during the initial installation? |
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| 14:50.34 | DebianUsr | babilen: I did not on this install (ive tried many for wireless to work). It did not give me the option, i downloaded the wheezy RC1. Infact I do not even know if I have any xserver in my system. |
| 14:51.11 | babilen | DebianUsr: Ok, fair enough. We can take care of that in a second. Did you paste the output of "lspci -nn" ? |
| 14:51.18 | DebianUsr | babilen: http://pastie.org/6316812 - also. this "software" is awesome if I think this is what it does |
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| 14:51.53 | davis | hello |
| 14:52.02 | DebianUsr | hi there |
| 14:53.08 | davis | i have a logitech wireless mouse which does not work. Oddly I can see it in dmesg output after I use the pairing tool, but it will not work with gpm or xorg. Any idea what i should check? |
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| 14:53.37 | babilen | DebianUsr: Ok, now please just run "apt-get install xorg xfce4 xfce4-goodies gdm3 network-manager-gnome" -- Once you've done that you should be able to reboot into a graphical system. |
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| 14:55.13 | DebianUsr | babilen: Thanks my man! For having patience with a blockhead such as myself too :) |
| 14:55.18 | babilen | DebianUsr: Oh, and throw in "rfkill list|nopaste" before you reboot .. |
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| 14:55.58 | DebianUsr | babilen: When I reboot, will I be able to access the wireless hopefully in the GUI? with my WPA key? |
| 14:56.15 | babilen | DebianUsr: That is my hope, but show me the rfkill output please. |
| 14:57.01 | DebianUsr | babilen: Right. It's installing but once its done of course. |
| 14:57.12 | babilen | DebianUsr: You should have an applet in XFCE4 (network-manager) from which you can connect to wireless networks. /If/ you have switched your wireless switch to on and you don't have a software one it should work just fine |
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| 15:00.43 | DebianUsr | babilen: I just hope the wireless toggle works. in the command line it kept saying ipw22 failure to scan_abort, and also failure to card_Disable (i guess the first one means turn on and the second off), unless it was just a firmware issue. |
| 15:00.50 | a-l-e_ | hi... cfdisk is telling me: |
| 15:00.52 | a-l-e_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:01.05 | a-l-e_ | any idea how can i solve it? |
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| 15:01.13 | a-l-e_ | http://pastebin.com/RwFyWuwA |
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| 15:01.37 | babilen | DebianUsr: Ah, wait |
| 15:01.38 | a-l-e_ | ^ is the list of partitions printed by fdisk... |
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| 15:02.01 | babilen | DebianUsr: Have you installed everything now? Did you run "rfkill list|nopaste" ? |
| 15:02.04 | a-l-e_ | is it safe to just delete sda3 with fdisk? |
| 15:02.07 | TheGrey | how do I setup m-audio audiophile 2496? I've made asound.rc be for my card. I've heard it uses envy24control. How/what do I do? :) |
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| 15:02.40 | DebianUsr_ | webchat just crashed |
| 15:02.43 | DebianUsr_ | sorry babilen about that |
| 15:02.54 | a-l-e_ | ... no idea how a w95 partition god created on this laptop... |
| 15:02.57 | DebianUsr_ | I read up until you said "Ah wait" |
| 15:03.04 | babilen | DebianUsr: hehe, ok |
| 15:03.07 | babilen | DebianUsr: Have you installed everything now? Did you run "rfkill list|nopaste" ? |
| 15:03.44 | DebianUsr_ | babilen: , its still setting up and unpacking, this laptop is slow so i hopethe gui doesnt act slow as well. |
| 15:03.54 | DebianUsr_ | when its finished i will for sure babilen |
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| 15:09.32 | tlund | after upgrading a x64 box to wheezy, some i386 libraries are missing, for example libssl.so.0.9.8 - what is the correct way to get "multi arch" support? |
| 15:10.06 | DebianUsr_ | babilen: This setup is taking forever. Sorry still waiting |
| 15:10.11 | DebianUsr_ | babilen: I'm not ignoring you |
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| 15:11.19 | babilen | DebianUsr_: Sure, take your time |
| 15:11.24 | davis | any idea where a channel is that has folks who know more about usb/input? |
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| 15:13.30 | DebianUsr_ | babilen: http://pastie.org/631697 |
| 15:13.40 | DebianUsr_ | babilen: , it finally finished ha |
| 15:13.43 | drasko | Hi all, I am having trouble with dependencies from acroreader : http://pastebin.com/Fq13dmeK |
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| 15:15.16 | DebianUsr_ | babilen: Also, I do not know what the output of that means, I didnt type any of that or see it on my screen |
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| 15:15.29 | Revolt | Hi |
| 15:16.13 | Revolt | How to i get Download debian iso? |
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| 15:16.19 | psichas | hi, i want install debian with netinstall iso in ppoe, but i don;t know how get my domain name? |
| 15:16.20 | drasko | Hi all, I am having trouble with dependencies from acroreader : http://pastebin.com/Fq13dmeK |
| 15:16.47 | psichas | i need wirite domain name but i don;t understand where find my domain name |
| 15:16.54 | HardDisk_WP | how do I remove all directories inside /tmp/foo except /tmp/foo/bar and /tmp/foo/baz? |
| 15:17.14 | HardDisk_WP | psichas, just use localdomain |
| 15:17.41 | psichas | write just localdomain? |
| 15:18.04 | psichas | HardDisk_WP? |
| 15:18.09 | HardDisk_WP | yep |
| 15:18.19 | babilen | DebianUsr_: Err, that is not what I wanted. Please run "rfkill list|nopaste" again .. Does "rfkill list" work as your user? Does it list anything as being blocked? |
| 15:18.28 | psichas | ok i'll try |
| 15:18.32 | mtn_ | drasko: did you try doing what it told you to do? |
| 15:19.00 | mtn_ | Revolt: debian.org or google |
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| 15:19.33 | Revolt | mtn_: i do it |
| 15:20.05 | Revolt | but in debian mirror these are many iso |
| 15:20.25 | Revolt | like debian-6.0.6-CD-1.iso |
| 15:20.32 | Revolt | CD-2.iso |
| 15:20.37 | Revolt | CD-3.iso |
| 15:20.44 | davis | anyone know about /etc/udev/rules.d and /dev/input/by-id directories? |
| 15:21.03 | mtn_ | Revolt: the netinstall is good. do you have ethernet at your computer? |
| 15:21.14 | DebianUsr_ | babilen: , I SERIOUSLY mistyped that that is why you and i got that.. lol http://pastie.org/6316957 |
| 15:21.24 | babilen | Revolt: Do you have a working internet connection? (how are you connected?) Is this for your own computer that you'll use for work/play or something more serious? |
| 15:21.41 | babilen | DebianUsr_: That looks fine. I guess that you are ready for a reboot now |
| 15:21.45 | Revolt | i am programer |
| 15:21.47 | abrotman | DebianUsr_: it would answer my problem :) |
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| 15:21.49 | a-l-e_ | ... babilen... do you think that he has an internet connection? |
| 15:21.51 | a-l-e_ | :-) |
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| 15:21.54 | Revolt | programmer* |
| 15:21.55 | drasko | mtn_, yes : http://pastebin.com/LSjAqHWQ |
| 15:22.13 | drasko | What's a way to force a package removal ? |
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| 15:22.16 | babilen | dpkg: tell Revolt about install wheezy |
| 15:22.22 | awktion | snarfy? |
| 15:22.25 | tlund | How can I install i386 libcrypto.so.0.9.8 and i386 libssl.so.0.9.8 on my x86_64 debian wheezy? |
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| 15:22.54 | awktion | y |
| 15:23.09 | joltcan | tlund: Why would you want old libraries on wheezy? |
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| 15:23.39 | Revolt | my internet speed is low |
| 15:23.49 | babilen | Revolt: I would recommend to install wheezy which is the soon-to-be-released-as-stable and currently frozen testing branch. If you have a working internet connection I would recommend to use the netinst image with firmware (see "/msg dpkg firmware images wheezy") and read "/msg dpkg installation guide wheezy" |
| 15:23.50 | nkuttler | tlund: you can always try to build the old source package |
| 15:24.05 | Revolt | i cant use this |
| 15:24.11 | mtn_ | drasko: so it looks like you have or are trying to have two versions of acroread installed. |
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| 15:24.30 | babilen | Revolt: You might also want to consider to download one of the CD1 images, but they don't contain firmware. Do you know if you want to install a desktop environment and if so which? |
| 15:24.48 | nkuttler | acroread? that still exists? |
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| 15:25.11 | Revolt | i want install Gnome |
| 15:25.13 | Revolt | 3.6 |
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| 15:25.32 | tlund | joltcan: to run an application (that I do not have the source for) |
| 15:25.44 | DebianUsr_ | babilen: startx after boot, then? |
| 15:25.52 | drasko | mtn_, that's not what I want. |
| 15:25.53 | tlund | nkuttler: no source for this program |
| 15:25.54 | ChrisH | nkuttler: yes. and sometime you really need that. eg. pdf with end-of-accessibilty date. like pdf from you local public library. |
| 15:25.58 | joltcan | tlund: can't you just symlink 0.9.8 to whatever is in wheezy? |
| 15:26.02 | drasko | mtn_, how can I remove previous version now ? |
| 15:26.05 | babilen | DebianUsr_: No, you installed a display manager (gdm3) that should start during the boot |
| 15:26.11 | tlund | joltcan: no, libraries to not work that way :) |
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| 15:26.16 | DebianUsr_ | babilen: oh yea it did, my fault. |
| 15:26.26 | nkuttler | tlund: how so? it's not open source? |
| 15:26.30 | mtn_ | drasko: open synaptic and look to see what you have installed and fix it. |
| 15:26.33 | tlund | nkuttler: yes |
| 15:26.37 | joltcan | tlund: most of the time it works, but your milage may vary |
| 15:26.43 | nkuttler | ah well sol then |
| 15:26.43 | babilen | Revolt: Wheezy comes with Gnome 3.4 - You have to wait a little for 3.6 -- You can install from CD1, but you would have to provide firmware on a removable medium if your hardware needs firmware. (see "/msg dpkg installer firmware wheezy") |
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| 15:26.49 | DebianUsr_ | babilen: Is it possible I can setup the WPA and then boot into the command line, not x? And If I want to go back to X i I just startx it? |
| 15:27.02 | drasko | mtn_, why synaptic ? |
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| 15:27.09 | drasko | can it be done from the command line ? |
| 15:27.12 | mtn_ | drasko: why not?> |
| 15:27.29 | drasko | I prefer commnd line |
| 15:27.35 | drasko | never used synaptic in my life |
| 15:27.35 | DebianUsr_ | babilen: Wireless says unmanaged, when I try to connect |
| 15:27.47 | mtn_ | drasko: man aptitude or man apt-get |
| 15:28.02 | tlund | joltcan: creating a symlink just gives this error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libssl.so.0.9.8: version `OPENSSL_0.9.8' not found |
| 15:28.05 | babilen | DebianUsr_: Yes, that is possible, but I will not talk you through that right now. I would recommend to simply use XFCE all the time and use network-manager to configure your connections. If you configure them as system connections (available to all users) they will be activated during the boot. |
| 15:28.43 | babilen | DebianUsr_: Do you have /anything/ about your wireless in /etc/network/interfaces ? Could you paste that file please? (redact personal information/passphrases please) |
| 15:28.57 | abrotman | drasko: aptitude update, try again |
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| 15:29.04 | abrotman | drasko: but use aptitude, not apt-get |
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| 15:29.06 | drasko | mtn_, I know this, what I do not know is if it would be safe to force removal of current acroread, and then do apr-get -f install |
| 15:29.07 | DebianUsr_ | babilen: , I will one second. |
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| 15:29.57 | babilen | DebianUsr_: I mean you don't have to use network-manager, but it is typically much easier. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse (currently down) summarises different ways to configure your wireless and you can choose whatever you want. |
| 15:30.07 | drasko | abrotman, aptitude update passes. Should I try to install acroread with aptitude now ? |
| 15:30.07 | psichas | HardDisk_WP, didn't work |
| 15:30.26 | HardDisk_WP | hmm kk, then I'm out of ideas |
| 15:30.45 | babilen | DebianUsr_: I would personally /never/ just use the console and /always/ work in X -- but you can do whatever you want. Why wouldn't you want to start X? (just curious, not saying its wrong or anything) |
| 15:31.01 | babilen | well, never is maybe a bit too definite :) |
| 15:31.16 | DebianUsr_ | babilen: because my system is slow but i will get use to it i guess :) |
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| 15:31.31 | mtn_ | drasko: does uninstall fail? |
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| 15:31.42 | drasko | mtn_, yes |
| 15:31.51 | mtn_ | drasko: error? |
| 15:31.52 | drasko | unmet dependencies |
| 15:31.56 | drasko | I will paste |
| 15:32.09 | babilen | DebianUsr_: If it is not fast enough for XFCE then I would recommend to use a window manager such as fluxbox or so. |
| 15:32.09 | mtn_ | drasko: on uninstall? doesn't sound correct. |
| 15:32.16 | Revolt | از ایران کسی هست؟ |
| 15:32.32 | babilen | Revolt: Sorry, my Farsi is a bit rusty :) |
| 15:32.50 | drasko | http://pastebin.com/SbeVA4gi |
| 15:32.51 | Revolt | :) |
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| 15:33.14 | Revolt | babilen: where are you from? |
| 15:33.29 | idimmu | he's asking if theres someone from iran |
| 15:34.05 | Revolt | idimmu: can you speake persian? |
| 15:34.07 | jelly | !ir |
| 15:34.07 | dpkg | IrDA is an infrared wireless communication standard. To use on Debian systems: enable infrared in BIOS (if built-in), install the irda-utils package (its init script starts irattach by default), enable infrared on the other device, "cat /proc/net/irda/discovery" / irdadump to test. To provide /dev/ircomm* devices, "modprobe ircomm-tty". See also irda-utils' README.Debian. http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Infrared-HOWTO/ Not for CIR, see <lirc>. |
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| 15:34.17 | jelly | well that was unexpected |
| 15:34.20 | babilen | Revolt: Was it Farsi? |
| 15:34.22 | babilen | hehe |
| 15:34.33 | jelly | dpkg: do what I mean |
| 15:34.33 | dpkg | refuses to do what I mean |
| 15:34.35 | drasko | What can be done from here ? Should I use dpkg to force removal of acroread ? |
| 15:34.37 | a-l-e_ | ... google translators is a wondeful tool :-) |
| 15:34.40 | idimmu | not enough to be helpful in the slightest! |
| 15:34.48 | Revolt | hehe |
| 15:34.50 | mtn_ | drasko: so, do apt-get -f install and remove the problem version, which is not just acroread. |
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| 15:35.04 | Revolt | babilen: No |
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| 15:35.14 | drasko | mtn_, I have already sent you apt-get -f install error |
| 15:35.17 | drasko | It does not work |
| 15:35.22 | drasko | I have pasted it before |
| 15:35.38 | babilen | Revolt: Ah, pity. It was a blind guess, but that's okay. Do you know how to install Debian now? Can I help you with anything else or clarify something? |
| 15:35.43 | mtn_ | drasko: yah, I don't still see it. if you know what to do, just do it. |
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| 15:35.58 | xreal | Is there a nice debian based router distribution with GUI ? |
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| 15:36.08 | mtn_ | drasko: I beleive the package name was not acroread. |
| 15:36.35 | Revolt | i can isntall it,but i dont know that i download whome |
| 15:36.38 | drasko | http://pastebin.com/iBptEmnv |
| 15:37.03 | mtn_ | drasko: package name: adobereader-enu |
| 15:37.03 | drasko | mtn_, I have no idea what to do. Can not install, can not uninstall and can not fix install. |
| 15:37.10 | drasko | All gives errors. |
| 15:37.21 | drasko | So, I will try to remove adobereader-enu |
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| 15:37.33 | babilen | Revolt: I would download CD1 from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ (amd64 == 64bit, i386 == 32bit, I'd go with amd64) |
| 15:37.38 | DebianUsr | I am here babilen |
| 15:37.40 | babilen | dpkg: tell Revolt -about install wheezy |
| 15:37.42 | DebianUsr | I am on xchat finally |
| 15:37.48 | babilen | dpkg: tell Revolt -about installation guide wheezy |
| 15:37.57 | babilen | dpkg: tell Revolt -about installer firmware wheezy |
| 15:38.06 | babilen | DebianUsr: so, all is well? |
| 15:38.21 | babilen | DebianUsr: Did you sort out your wireless problems? |
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| 15:38.25 | drasko | mtn_, nope, can not remove anything |
| 15:38.25 | DebianUsr | babilen, No. Still trying to think of what you said about the wireless. |
| 15:38.32 | DebianUsr | I am on using wired now babilen :( |
| 15:38.36 | drasko | it demands me apt-get -f, which fails again |
| 15:38.50 | DebianUsr | Oh right babilen , etc/network/interfaces |
| 15:38.55 | babilen | DebianUsr: Well, paste your /etc/network/interfaces and let me have a look. It is most likely that you ahve s ... |
| 15:38.56 | DebianUsr | one moment |
| 15:38.59 | mtn_ | drasko: maybe someone else has an idea |
| 15:39.48 | jelly | dpkg, tell drasko about available |
| 15:39.48 | abrotman | drasko: yes, i told you that |
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| 15:40.05 | abrotman | why is he stuck on using apt-get ... |
| 15:40.28 | jelly | dpkg: [...] error in Version string '1.1.5_stm23_0024-25': invalid character in version number |
| 15:40.28 | dpkg | You are person #2 to send an unparseable request, jelly |
| 15:40.33 | jelly | dpkg: be quiet |
| 15:40.34 | dpkg | Ah, shuddup. |
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| 15:40.43 | jelly | dpkg: shut up! |
| 15:40.44 | dpkg | get lost, jerkoff |
| 15:40.50 | jelly | dpkg: fu |
| 15:40.50 | dpkg | somebody said fu was _____ |
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| 15:41.17 | jelly | that bot certainly has an attitude |
| 15:41.21 | drasko | I have broken dependencies on installing acroread. Now my apt-get is blocaked, unistall does not work, neither apt-get -f install |
| 15:41.30 | drasko | jelly, abrotman stll samr problem |
| 15:41.33 | jelly | drasko: fix your available file. |
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| 15:41.38 | Pei | my laptop is only registering at 825mhz, half of what it can do, how do i change the cpu frequency to the highest it can go (1650mhz) |
| 15:41.50 | idimmu | pei hit the turbo button |
| 15:41.56 | Pei | VERY FUNNY |
| 15:41.57 | Pei | -caps |
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| 15:42.14 | jelly | Pei: that's normal, it will keep the low frequency until the cpu is actually loaded |
| 15:42.19 | babilen | Pei: Are you sure that it is not just using a lower frequency because you don't need a higher one? |
| 15:42.43 | Pei | babilen: well cat /proc/cpuinfo shows 825mhz on both cores |
| 15:42.47 | abrotman | drasko: aptitude update;aptitude full-upgrade;aptitude install acroread |
| 15:42.48 | babilen | Pei: Are you running something compute intensive? You could test with cpuburn or so ... |
| 15:42.49 | Pei | so that's normal? |
| 15:42.55 | jelly | Pei: this is how mobile cpus save battery |
| 15:43.04 | Pei | okay |
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| 15:43.15 | nickn | Where can I ask dhcp questions? |
| 15:43.23 | drasko | dpkg: error: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory |
| 15:43.23 | dpkg | drasko: You are person #3 to send an unparseable request |
| 15:43.24 | Pei | so if i do something cpu intensive, will proc/cpuinfo tell me different? |
| 15:43.30 | babilen | Pei: yes |
| 15:44.13 | babilen | Pei: It is simply not running at full speed because you don't have to. That saves energy and causes your cpu to be cooler. |
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| 15:44.17 | drasko | abrotman, I am trying what you have suggested |
| 15:44.19 | Pei | thank you! |
| 15:44.50 | whoxz | hello |
| 15:45.34 | drasko | abrotman, I am missing /var/lib/dpkg/available |
| 15:45.37 | drasko | there is no file |
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| 15:45.48 | abrotman | drasko: how did you manage that? |
| 15:45.56 | abrotman | did you look in the bakcups? |
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| 15:46.16 | drasko | well, did operation jelly proposed |
| 15:46.23 | drasko | which removed file |
| 15:46.28 | drasko | I recreaed it |
| 15:46.35 | Pei | if i want to disable a module from being loaded at startup what;s the best way? I want to disable ath9k |
| 15:46.40 | Pei | the wireles |
| 15:46.46 | jelly | Pei: why? |
| 15:46.49 | Pei | i;m troubleshooting freezing problems |
| 15:47.02 | Pei | and i think the wireless hardware might be causing it to freeze |
| 15:47.15 | jelly | Pei: read /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 15:47.16 | Pei | so i need to use it wired for awhile and see if it freezes |
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| 15:47.47 | jelly | so use it wired without actually disabling the driver |
| 15:48.14 | babilen | (or unload the module) |
| 15:48.30 | jelly | (that is often hard to do) |
| 15:48.31 | abrotman | or hit the hardware switch |
| 15:48.40 | Pei | yeah |
| 15:48.42 | Pei | well |
| 15:48.45 | jelly | !enter |
| 15:48.46 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 15:49.07 | Pei | i'd rather just disable it from the os alltogether |
| 15:49.50 | abrotman | your enter key? |
| 15:49.56 | babilen | Pei: Sure, do what you think is best. It /might/ make sense to ask for help with the debugging of your freezes though (but you haven't heard that from me) |
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| 15:50.44 | Pei | *sigh* well google says the wifi card can cause problems with freezes with this model of laptop on debian |
| 15:50.58 | Pei | so i;m testing that first okay? |
| 15:51.14 | abrotman | maybe test with another distro ? |
| 15:51.33 | Pei | now, how would I configure a wired connection once i don'; have wifi anymore |
| 15:51.39 | Pei | ifconfig eth0 up |
| 15:51.45 | Pei | dhcpcd -d eth0? |
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| 15:52.02 | Pei | or is there a ":setup" type app for it |
| 15:52.09 | babilen | no |
| 15:52.16 | babilen | dpkg: tell Pei about interfaces |
| 15:52.21 | abrotman | Pei: which other distros have you used? |
| 15:52.57 | whoxz | guys i just bittorent but idont find it in the menu n can't laucnh it via terminal |
| 15:53.09 | whoxz | i i nstalled the gui also tho |
| 15:53.15 | whoxz | im on wheezy |
| 15:53.28 | babilen | whoxz: What did you install exactly? |
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| 15:54.08 | whoxz | bittorrent and its gui but can't find it in menu and wheni do bittorent in terminal it says no such command babilen |
| 15:54.27 | ChrisH | whoxz: babilen asked for the package name |
| 15:54.28 | babilen | whoxz: Which package did you install? |
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| 15:54.48 | DebianUsr | babilen, http://pastie.org/6317145 |
| 15:55.00 | whoxz | bittorrent and bittorrent-gui babilen |
| 15:55.03 | abrotman | whoxz: you might find trasmission easier to use |
| 15:55.05 | babilen | DebianUsr: yeah, there we go |
| 15:55.37 | whoxz | yeh i have it but iwanna test the other abrotman |
| 15:55.38 | babilen | DebianUsr: Please remove/comment line 8-14 in /etc/network/interfaces and run "service network-manager restart" |
| 15:56.43 | babilen | whoxz: Try /usr/bin/btdownloadgui.bittorrent ;) |
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| 15:57.14 | DebianUsr | babilen, services network-manager restart command not found in console |
| 15:57.40 | babilen | whoxz: sorry, I never ever used that. I'd go with transmission-gtk or deluge, but meh |
| 15:57.42 | drasko | abrotman, jelly, mtn_ I fixed it : first aptitude full-upgrade, which removed new acroread versions. That then allowed me to remove old adobereader-enu package. |
| 15:57.56 | whoxz | babilen: got a weird ugly window with errors |
| 15:57.59 | babilen | DebianUsr: "service network-manager start" and you have to run that as root/via sudo |
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| 15:58.42 | babilen | whoxz: beautiful .. there might be something more to it. Please read "man btdownloadgui.bittorrent" |
| 15:59.03 | abrotman | drasko: sometimes, aptitude is better at getting out of those situations |
| 15:59.11 | DebianUsr | babilen, ok now it says under wireless hardware disabled |
| 15:59.36 | whoxz | babilen: okies thanks another quetioni have network manager i use it to get on net via wifi with my phone but the cable ethernet does not work |
| 15:59.38 | mtn_ | drasko: good deal |
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| 15:59.56 | babilen | DebianUsr: "rfkill list" ? also try restarting ... |
| 15:59.57 | whoxz | babilen: btw i see the light when i plug my cable |
| 16:00.36 | DebianUsr | http://pastie.org/6317173 |
| 16:01.15 | DebianUsr | babilen, to you |
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| 16:01.16 | babilen | DebianUsr: yay, something blocked it ... run "rfkill unblock all" and give it a try again. (also : did you touch the switch?) |
| 16:01.32 | babilen | DebianUsr: It cannot unblock your hardware switch though |
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| 16:01.58 | babilen | whoxz: "lspci -nn|grep -i ethernet" gives you what? |
| 16:01.58 | Pei | how do i select which wm i want to load? |
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| 16:02.12 | Pei | and can i log out of kde and use gnome again? |
| 16:02.17 | babilen | yes |
| 16:02.23 | drasko | One more thing left to be fixed now - Adobe Reader can not open external URLs : complains something about missing plugin... |
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| 16:02.27 | Pei | what do i need to do |
| 16:02.32 | Pei | log out? |
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| 16:02.35 | Pei | and log back in? |
| 16:02.40 | Pei | i dunno |
| 16:02.52 | babilen | Pei: yes, that would be a start. you can also choose different sessions in gdm3 (after choosing your user) |
| 16:03.03 | DebianUsr | Holy excuse my language hell |
| 16:03.13 | babilen | DebianUsr: hmm? |
| 16:03.17 | whoxz | babilen: now i cant test what shud return ?? |
| 16:03.25 | babilen | DebianUsr: Did "rfkill unblock all" unblock it? |
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| 16:03.38 | babilen | whoxz: Sorry, I don't quite follow. What are you trying to say? |
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| 16:04.59 | whoxz | babilen: i can't test that command you gave me now cus i dont use the cable or it doesnt matter |
| 16:05.23 | babilen | whoxz: You cannot run that command or you cannot paste the output? |
| 16:05.29 | babilen | (or both) |
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| 16:05.55 | whoxz | babilen: yesh the output sure but with no cable plugged in http://pastie.org/6317194 here you |
| 16:05.56 | DebianUsr | wirelessworks |
| 16:05.56 | DebianUsr | Thank you babilen !! |
| 16:05.56 | DebianUsr | babilen, but i still dont understand what the entire problem was. do you? |
| 16:06.05 | whoxz | babilen: i did not get you sorry |
| 16:07.36 | babilen | judd: pciid 1002:4342 |
| 16:07.38 | judd | [1002:4342] is 'IXP200 3COM 3C920B Ethernet Controller' from 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI' with kernel module 'snd-hda-intel' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:4342 and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
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| 16:08.05 | babilen | whoxz: Looks pretty unsupported |
| 16:08.34 | babilen | the other one is even worse |
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| 16:08.51 | sysop_ | Ok |
| 16:08.54 | sysop_ | network stopped |
| 16:09.03 | DebianUsr_ | Sorry babilen |
| 16:09.19 | DebianUsr_ | Do you know the causeof the entire problem babilen ? Cause the wireless works now |
| 16:09.21 | whoxz | babilen: im on wheezy tho , so what shud i do to make it work ?? is there a module to install or some workaround |
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| 16:09.59 | Kingsy | the wiki is down? |
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| 16:10.37 | babilen | DebianUsr: Well, something must have blocked it. I am not entirely sure what. Some laptops do have a switch or button to enable/disable wireless. You might have touched it :-/ |
| 16:10.44 | babilen | Kingsy: yes, it is |
| 16:10.49 | Kingsy | booooooooo :P |
| 16:11.08 | babilen | Kingsy: It was scheduled: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.infrastructure.announce/101 |
| 16:11.16 | Kingsy | babilen: perhaps you can tell me, what are the font packages available in order to get chrome even looking remotely sane? |
| 16:11.42 | babilen | Kingsy: font-sane and xfonts-asylum-extra |
| 16:11.42 | Kingsy | ah yeah, fair enuogh |
| 16:12.21 | Kingsy | babilen: thanks, are you involved in debian development? curious, you seem to know alot about everyhting. |
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| 16:12.40 | babilen | whoxz: I don't know -- from the little research that I've done it might be that it is simply not supported by linux right now. |
| 16:12.45 | babilen | Kingsy: That was a joke! |
| 16:12.50 | Kingsy | lol |
| 16:13.06 | Kingsy | yeah I see.. hahaha |
| 16:13.11 | Kingsy | taps his head. |
| 16:13.14 | whoxz | babilen: completly well how about some hackin |
| 16:13.15 | babilen | Kingsy: And yeah, I am involved in Debian Developer as a (mostly sponsored) DM ... :) |
| 16:13.29 | Night_Elf | Ok. After almost a week of not-so-diligently-experimenting, I managed to get to work a Xerox WorkCentre 5645 printer, networked and with accounting funcional. Until today on the net I could find only working situations without accounting. So now, if I want to let others as well use my working PPD file, how and where can I put it and announce it? |
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| 16:14.16 | babilen | whoxz: To be honest: I don't know right now. It would take me some effort to dig up reliable information about that NIC and I am simply a bit too tired after a long week :) |
| 16:14.22 | jhutchins_wk | Is there a practical way to replace motd with a fresh run of fortune for each login? |
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| 16:14.53 | Kingsy | babilen: there are just too many *font packages. |
| 16:15.17 | babilen | jhutchins_wk: Can't you just call fortune in /run/motd.dynamic (wheezy) ? |
| 16:15.46 | babilen | Kingsy: I know, would it help if I show you my font sleection? (not as large as it used to be though) |
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| 16:17.42 | jhutchins_wk | babilen: Maybe, but I'm still on squeeze. |
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| 16:18.24 | babilen | dpkg: tell jhutchins_wk about motd squeeze |
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| 16:21.44 | DebianUsr_ | Also is firefix depreciated? When I try to grab it, it says its under a different name? |
| 16:21.46 | DebianUsr_ | firefox* |
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| 16:27.09 | lord_rob | iceweasel |
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| 16:27.23 | Nik05 | DebianUsr_: its called iceweasel in Debian |
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| 16:28.41 | DebianUsr_ | Ok thanks. Yeah I grabbed that thinking ok I guess firefox isnt available in this distribution but cool thanks |
| 16:29.03 | atomfire | can anyone tell me if there's a simple way to remove all of the i386 packages that are installed on my 64 bit system? |
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| 16:29.17 | lord_rob | what's the package name for g++ ? I made a mistake with dependancy aptitude dependancy resolution system and it deleted g++, and I need it ... |
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| 16:29.43 | Nik05 | lord_rob: g++ is the package name |
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| 16:30.03 | kristijonas | Hello, any of you are good at openssl? |
| 16:30.11 | Nik05 | if you search for g++ use g\+\+ cause + is probably used in regex |
| 16:30.46 | Nik05 | kristijonas: pkey still not working? |
| 16:31.37 | kristijonas | Nik05, I found other commands to run, though I 'm struggling with creating certificate authority with that CRL thing. |
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| 16:35.34 | lord_rob | Nik05: that's why I did not find it I suppose |
| 16:35.59 | kristijonas | Nik05, I managed to understans RSA keys, as well as, following some tutorial create a CA certificate to sign user certificate requests. Though, I don't know how to configure openssl.cnf so there is information about revocation list in user certificates. |
| 16:36.17 | Nik05 | lord_rob: 'aptitude install g++' not working? |
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| 16:41.58 | lord_rob | Nik05: I fixed the dependancy problem (I'm using aptitude TUI) |
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| 16:42.38 | iPwnd | does anyone use root-tail here? |
| 16:42.49 | Towzzer | what does that do |
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| 16:43.02 | iPwnd | it tails logs file to screen |
| 16:43.05 | iPwnd | to monitor |
| 16:44.12 | Towzzer | what's the difference between it and tail |
| 16:44.22 | sandersch | On Debian Squeeze where does Apache 2.2 get the certificate file from? |
| 16:44.36 | Towzzer | whereever you want |
| 16:44.42 | Towzzer | that's specified in the configuration file |
| 16:44.49 | Towzzer | I like /etc/httpd/ssl |
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| 16:45.30 | sandersch | Configuration dir is /etc/apache2 |
| 16:45.45 | sandersch | but there is no ssl dir |
| 16:47.40 | sandersch | Never mind I just found it in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default-ssl |
| 16:47.58 | kristijonas | I need some help with ssl, too:) |
| 16:48.25 | iPwnd | http://www.researchut.com/repository/notebook/snapshot1.png |
| 16:48.31 | iPwnd | Towzzer, |
| 16:48.34 | Towzzer | hi there |
| 16:48.41 | iPwnd | it monitors log files to screen |
| 16:48.55 | Towzzer | sorry, I'm using centos more now |
| 16:48.57 | Towzzer | keep forgetting |
| 16:49.01 | iPwnd | ? |
| 16:49.07 | kristijonas | I would like to create CA with CRL ability. |
| 16:49.15 | iPwnd | on a #debian channel using centos? |
| 16:49.16 | iPwnd | lol |
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| 16:49.57 | Towzzer | are you missing an mx record ipwnd? |
| 16:50.16 | Towzzer | god your terminal is so hard to read with a picture behind it |
| 16:50.35 | Towzzer | cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 16:50.37 | dutchfish | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/349 (apache2 cert setup) |
| 16:50.55 | Towzzer | he wasn't looking for certs he wanted the default ssl configuration file for apache |
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| 16:52.06 | kristijonas | so can you guys help me? |
| 16:52.07 | dutchfish | ah ok, i was answering kristijonas |
| 16:52.21 | Towzzer | ipwnd, talk |
| 16:52.21 | kristijonas | oh, it's not about apache... |
| 16:52.45 | dutchfish | my mistake then |
| 16:52.56 | Towzzer | swedish fish are yummy |
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| 16:53.23 | thetaruetheta | Meow |
| 16:53.32 | kristijonas | I just want to create CA with ability to revoke user certificates and publish revoked ones, i guess it has something to do with CRL, right? |
| 16:53.45 | Towzzer | I don't know anything about that |
| 16:53.56 | iPwnd | Towzzer, is not my terminal |
| 16:54.00 | iPwnd | LOLOL |
| 16:54.07 | iPwnd | it's just a pic from webs |
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| 16:55.31 | lord_rob | LOLOL super fun :D |
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| 16:56.52 | iPwnd | is wiki.debian.org down? |
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| 16:57.02 | dutchfish | yes |
| 16:57.07 | iPwnd | why? |
| 16:57.17 | dutchfish | no idee |
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| 16:57.46 | kristijonas | not the first time when it's down. |
| 16:59.16 | daemonkeeper | iPwnd / dutchfish: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.infrastructure.announce/101 |
| 16:59.35 | dutchfish | can we please stay ontopic? |
| 17:00.08 | daemonkeeper | How is a downtime of Debian services not on-topic? |
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| 17:00.26 | dutchfish | nono, i ment before that |
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| 17:01.47 | unkmar | ok, I've spent 15 minutes digging on google. I'm running gnome on squeeze and have a server listed in Places from when I added it. |
| 17:02.30 | unkmar | I think this has something to do with nautilus. I'm tryingin to remove that server entry from places without any luck. |
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| 17:03.13 | dutchfish | daemonkeeper, thanks |
| 17:04.31 | kristijonas | dutchfish, so maybe you know more than me about openssl and might be willing to help me understand it?:) |
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| 17:05.00 | unkmar | at this point I have resorted to grep -r directories in my home directory. |
| 17:05.47 | Towzzer | One day they'll make a recursive grep |
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| 17:06.28 | unkmar | Towzzer: I'm avoiding grepping silly stuff like mp3 files. |
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| 17:07.12 | Macky | hello all |
| 17:07.13 | dutchfish | kristijonas, maybe you could start here http://www.eclectica.ca/howto/ssl-cert-howto.php |
| 17:07.16 | Towzzer | I wish I could do grep -r 'blah' *.php |
| 17:07.24 | Towzzer | and have it recurse all subdirectories |
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| 17:08.13 | unkmar | Towzzer: I wish I knew the file is a .php or .cfg or... Well, that's the point. I have not clue what file or filetype I'm looking for. |
| 17:08.28 | Towzzer | grep non-binary files |
| 17:08.31 | Towzzer | I think you can find those |
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| 17:08.40 | unkmar | Great, you got me sounding all foreign. |
| 17:09.28 | unkmar | -I |
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| 17:09.50 | dutchfish | kristijonas, but since i have no clue what your usecase is, it is a bit hard to anticipate on that |
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| 17:10.55 | unkmar | well, I have the grep running. beyound that, I will abandon any form of solution for now. I have REAL work to do. Not battling OS crap. SOSDOS Same Old Stuff Different OS |
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| 17:11.11 | kristijonas | dutchfish, I already managed to create CA and sign certificates, though, i'm struggling with understanding how that CRL works, how to properly configure openssl.cnf :) |
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| 17:11.42 | dutchfish | kristijonas, is that for an openvpn or webserver? |
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| 17:12.37 | dutchfish | kristijonas, if it is non-publi usage you can use selfsigned certs, for webserver i advise not too |
| 17:12.38 | kristijonas | dutchfish, in fact, for nothing particularly. I just trying to understand how OpenSSL works. :) |
| 17:13.02 | dutchfish | kristijonas, ah, then start with my last link and do dry runs |
| 17:14.15 | dutchfish | kristijonas, also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Sockets_Layer |
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| 17:14.31 | DebianUsr_ | I have a question -- When I close my notebook, and reopen it. Everything stays in tact, but the wireless manager says disconnected then connected -- does that mean Iwill be disconnected from this channel if I close my notebook for later use? |
| 17:14.41 | kristijonas | dutchfish, thank you for the links. |
| 17:14.51 | dutchfish | kristijonas, yw |
| 17:15.02 | Pei | DebianUsr_: yes |
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| 17:15.39 | kristijonas | dutchfish, i just got excited about that RSA key algorithm and prime numbers. :D |
| 17:15.47 | Pei | you can set lid options though somewhere i';m not sure where yet |
| 17:15.51 | n-iCe | have anyone used hostpad? I keep getting Failed to set interface wlan0 to master mode. |
| 17:15.54 | Pei | new to the gui of gnome |
| 17:15.56 | dutchfish | kristijonas, yeh, they can be fun ;) |
| 17:16.17 | DebianUsr_ | Pei, so I cannot ssh into the system through another system for web purposes or anything else? I need to keep the top open? |
| 17:16.37 | LtL | Pei: why noy ask around in #gnome ? |
| 17:16.40 | Pei | DebianUsr_: not if it's going to sleep |
| 17:16.54 | Pei | DebianUsr_: it disconnects the wireless when it goes to sleep |
| 17:17.06 | Pei | plus it's asleep |
| 17:17.11 | unkmar | DebianUsr_: you need to disable lid trigging sleep. |
| 17:17.16 | DebianUsr_ | I'm not sure Pei what you mean can you help me get on the right path? |
| 17:17.19 | Pei | yes |
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| 17:17.33 | dutchfish | kristijonas, also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSA_(algorithm) (have fun) |
| 17:17.41 | Pei | DebianUsr_: unkmar said it.... i dunno how to do what he is saying tho yet |
| 17:17.48 | Pei | i'm new to the gui interface |
| 17:17.49 | DebianUsr_ | unkmar, and where is that? |
| 17:18.00 | unkmar | DebianUsr_: System, Preferences, Power Management. |
| 17:18.01 | DebianUsr_ | Pei, you got me beat, im new to linux period |
| 17:18.02 | Pei | i use debian as a server mostly |
| 17:18.10 | Pei | DebianUsr_: :) |
| 17:18.13 | DebianUsr_ | thanks unkmar |
| 17:18.34 | unkmar | DebianUsr_: you can allow teh display to sleep without a problem. |
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| 17:18.50 | kristijonas | dutchfish, we get some legal fight in Lithuania, some lawyers state,that it's illegal to insert the personal code in digital certificates (for personal usages, like signing documents and stuff), but CAs still do this. |
| 17:18.57 | unkmar | Just don't suspend, hibernate or shutdown. |
| 17:19.34 | dutchfish | kristijonas, this is gone be a bit offtopic, if you like to discuss this further #debian-offtopic |
| 17:19.42 | unkmar | Apparently they call it suspend here. Rather than standby or sleep. suspends reads like a better term to me. |
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| 17:21.46 | mrfanty | Hi, why is the wiki.debian.org down? |
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| 17:22.17 | Pei | hrm |
| 17:22.21 | Pei | dunno |
| 17:22.37 | DebianUsr_ | unkmar, no i dont see it. Activities > System Tools, I dont see Power Management. The only power option I see is the one I clicked it says Suspend when inactive for: and When power is critically low: |
| 17:22.49 | DebianUsr_ | nothing about sleep unkmar |
| 17:22.56 | Pei | yeah, why IS wiki.debian.org down |
| 17:22.59 | Pei | wtf. |
| 17:23.00 | Pei | lol |
| 17:23.13 | mtn_ | DebianUsr_: is this gnome3? wheezy? |
| 17:23.22 | mrfanty | Who is responsible? |
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| 17:23.45 | DebianUsr_ | mtn_, wheezy |
| 17:23.47 | Pei | mrfanty: me........ i broke it |
| 17:23.50 | DebianUsr_ | xfce4 mtn_ |
| 17:23.53 | Pei | :( SORRY |
| 17:23.53 | petn-randall | Probably slashdot linked to a page on it. |
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| 17:24.08 | mtn_ | DebianUsr_: install gnome-tweak-tool |
| 17:24.26 | ksk | Pei: there is a datacenter? maintenance today |
| 17:24.39 | ksk | projects like wiki. lists. are not multi-homed so they are down for now. |
| 17:24.40 | Pei | ah |
| 17:24.46 | mtn_ | DebianUsr_: oops, not gnome. don't know then. |
| 17:25.01 | ksk | (just found a mail about it on google by accident) |
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| 17:25.14 | mrfanty | where is the datacenter? |
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| 17:26.08 | petn-randall | ksk: care to share the link? |
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| 17:26.14 | DebianUsr_ | ok mtn_ |
| 17:27.16 | mrfanty | I find it deeply disturbing that I can't access the wiki |
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| 17:28.37 | unkmar | DebianUsr_: yeah, I'm using gnome. Not sure whre to poke around in xfce4. You can attempted renaming the powerlid.sh or however it is named somewhere under the /etc structure but gnome doesn't use it and xfce may not. |
| 17:29.16 | unkmar | DebianUsr_: and lid is definately in the name of the script. |
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| 17:29.42 | unkmar | DebianUsr_: /etc/acpi/lid.sh |
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| 17:29.49 | ksk | petn-randall: sry. not able to find it in my browsers history :o |
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| 17:30.11 | unkmar | DebianUsr_: AGAIN, I wouldn't hold my breathe on that helping. :( |
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| 17:40.47 | unkmar | Ok, The answer to my question was to unmount. I open a nautiuls window to the sftp server and then, choose File, Unmount. |
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| 17:58.25 | Royaflash | Hi for all |
| 17:58.42 | wsky | hey |
| 17:58.51 | talscudi | Ello. |
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| 18:03.36 | petn-randall | DebianUsr_: I'm running xfce on wheezy. What was you question again? |
| 18:03.47 | fitty-sis-hunrd | hi, I can't use DVDs on my Debian laptop, I have kernel 2.6.32-5 |
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| 18:04.07 | petn-randall | Either way, sleeping is something that humans do. It suspect that you mean suspend or hibernate :) |
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| 18:05.10 | fitty-sis-hunrd | I am running Debian squeeze |
| 18:05.11 | kristijonas | http://paste.debian.net/237146/ why is my apache running on tcp6?,, |
| 18:05.19 | petn-randall | fitty-sis-hunrd: Care to be more specific? What exactly does "can't use" mean? |
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| 18:05.49 | petn-randall | fitty-sis-hunrd: As in, "don't have a DVD player"? ;) |
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| 18:06.10 | fitty-sis-hunrd | no |
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| 18:06.35 | petn-randall | fitty-sis-hunrd: You can't read data? You can't burn DVDs? You can't watch encrypted DVD Videos? |
| 18:07.07 | fitty-sis-hunrd | petn-randall get the error dvd not mounted |
| 18:07.51 | fitty-sis-hunrd | DVDRead could not open the disc "/dev/dvd". |
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| 18:08.23 | petn-randall | fitty-sis-hunrd: I suspect that /dev/dvd may not point to your DVD drive. |
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| 18:08.51 | fitty-sis-hunrd | ls -al /dev/dvd |
| 18:08.53 | fitty-sis-hunrd | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Feb 22 23:01 /dev/dvd -> sr0 |
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| 18:09.05 | petn-randall | fitty-sis-hunrd: do 'tail -f /var/log/kern.log' , and then stick in the DVD |
| 18:09.33 | petn-randall | fitty-sis-hunrd: It might be a read error, or might be because your drive has a different device name for some reason. |
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| 18:10.58 | fitty-sis-hunrd | nothing appears in log |
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| 18:11.18 | fitty-sis-hunrd | though I can sense the DVD is spining |
| 18:11.44 | petn-randall | fitty-sis-hunrd: Can you check if the drive is connected? |
| 18:12.12 | fitty-sis-hunrd | I am using a laptop, could use dvds on same laptop using Windows |
| 18:12.19 | petn-randall | fitty-sis-hunrd: oh wait, laptop. It probably is |
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| 18:12.33 | fitty-sis-hunrd | formatted and installed Debian :-( so that I can not use DVDs :'( |
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| 18:13.30 | petn-randall | fitty-sis-hunrd: take the DVD in and out, and check /var/log/kern.log. It should _something_. |
| 18:13.48 | fitty-sis-hunrd | tried, nothing |
| 18:13.58 | petn-randall | fitty-sis-hunrd: (gotta go, I'll be back in 30 min) |
| 18:14.12 | fitty-sis-hunrd | Tried this as well -> mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom -t udf, this gives me -> mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0 |
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| 18:19.28 | KsM | Message from syslogd@core at Feb 22 12:18:24 ... kernel:[ 668.924290] Disabling IRQ #16 |
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| 18:19.59 | KsM | yet another reboot, here I come |
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| 18:22.19 | iPwnd | what should be the permissions of /usr/log/messages? |
| 18:22.52 | dondelelcaro | iPwnd: presumably you mean /var/log/messages? |
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| 18:24.06 | metaphysician | I want to know how the release team partitions the archive into DVD-sized sets. |
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| 18:27.23 | dondelelcaro | metaphysician: in general, they are done by popularity, with the additional provisio that they are closed sets, as much as possible |
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| 18:28.07 | zhvtar | Can anyone access wiki.debian.org? I haven't been able to for about 20 hours. |
| 18:28.41 | Konomi | fitty-sis-hunrd: you might need the non free linux firmware iirc my dvd drive needed it to work |
| 18:28.42 | dondelelcaro | metaphysician: the actual code is in the debian-cd package (well, modulo what has been changed since it was last released) |
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| 18:29.43 | dondelelcaro | zhvtar: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.infrastructure.announce/101 |
| 18:29.51 | fitty-sis-hunrd | zhvtar I can't access wiki.debian.org and am in India |
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| 18:30.00 | Mishke | hi guys |
| 18:30.12 | Mishke | which DE use stable debian on default? |
| 18:30.14 | fitty-sis-hunrd | Konomi what do you mean with non free linux firmware? |
| 18:30.15 | Konomi | http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/firmware-linux-nonfree |
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| 18:30.34 | fitty-sis-hunrd | Konomi how did you read my mind? |
| 18:30.43 | zhvtar | dondelelcaro: Thanks. |
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| 18:33.25 | Mishke | which DE use stable debian on default? |
| 18:33.45 | Nik05 | gnome |
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| 18:34.01 | Mishke | Nik05: i hope v2? |
| 18:34.08 | Nik05 | i think so |
| 18:34.16 | Mishke | thx |
| 18:34.26 | Mishke | want change my arch to debian ^,^ |
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| 18:34.50 | zhvtar | Mishke: what made you leave arch? |
| 18:34.50 | Mishke | ubuntu or mint =/ true |
| 18:35.03 | Mishke | zhvtar: too hard for me :/ |
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| 18:35.23 | Konomi | fitty-sis-hunrd: here's an example of one of my dvd drives needing firmware |
| 18:35.25 | Konomi | [ 10.892289] usb 1-1.3: firmware: agent loaded dvb-usb-dib0700-1.20.fw into memory |
| 18:35.36 | Konomi | $ dpkg -L firmware-linux-nonfree | grep dvb-usb-dib0700-1.20.fw |
| 18:35.36 | Konomi | /lib/firmware/dvb-usb-dib0700-1.20.fw |
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| 18:35.41 | Konomi | without it the drive probably won't work |
| 18:35.53 | Mishke | Perscienter: i just force start with linux. i use it 2 month. my first distro - Arch =) |
| 18:35.54 | fitty-sis-hunrd | hmm |
| 18:36.02 | Konomi | either that or it will fail to read protected dvds etc etc |
| 18:36.07 | Mishke | i think you understanding, how hard start with archlinux) |
| 18:37.16 | Konomi | dvd drives are a pita if you're trying to avoid non free junk unfortuantly |
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| 18:37.22 | nickn | hi |
| 18:37.28 | nickn | I get a dhcp error when trying to start dhpcd |
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| 18:37.56 | fitty-sis-hunrd | I have a movie DVD |
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| 18:38.05 | fitty-sis-hunrd | its not DRM protected or anythin |
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| 18:38.12 | fitty-sis-hunrd | *anything |
| 18:38.31 | Konomi | you should grep your kern.log for dvd |
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| 18:39.06 | Konomi | it'll give a message if firmware is needed and can't be found |
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| 18:39.22 | fitty-sis-hunrd | no message nothing in kern.log |
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| 18:40.34 | Konomi | that'd imply your drive isn't even connected to your computer |
| 18:40.39 | nickn | Starting ISC DHCP server: dhcpdcheck syslog for diagnostics. ... failed! failed! |
| 18:40.59 | babilen | fitty-sis-hunrd: Which player are you trying to use? Did you install libdvdcss2 if it is an ancrypted one? |
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| 18:41.54 | fitty-sis-hunrd | I am using vlc |
| 18:42.01 | fitty-sis-hunrd | but I can't even mount the DVD |
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| 18:42.12 | fitty-sis-hunrd | and the DVD was working fine on Windows |
| 18:42.16 | fitty-sis-hunrd | I had windows on this laptop |
| 18:42.23 | babilen | yeah, I understand that. |
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| 18:42.39 | Konomi | pastebin your lsusb |
| 18:42.46 | babilen | dpkg: tell fitty-sis-hunrd about libdvdcss2 |
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| 18:43.19 | Konomi | he doesn't even have /dev/sr0 atm so I'm not sure libdvdcss is going to help |
| 18:43.19 | babilen | fitty-sis-hunrd: You will most likely need that package in order to decrypt the movie DVD. Can you read/mount "normal" data DVD? |
| 18:43.28 | babilen | Konomi: Oh, that is indeed a problem |
| 18:43.32 | fitty-sis-hunrd | no |
| 18:43.34 | babilen | thanks for pointing that out :) |
| 18:43.57 | fitty-sis-hunrd | I can't even mount CDs! |
| 18:44.10 | Konomi | fitty-sis-hunrd: run lsusb and pastebin it please |
| 18:44.13 | fitty-sis-hunrd | I have dev/sr0 |
| 18:44.20 | Konomi | you do? |
| 18:44.37 | fitty-sis-hunrd | yes |
| 18:45.41 | Deffie | hello everyone, i've installed sarge from a live usb key, now the bash prompt on the installed system is reporting (live)root@hostname, installed ssh server doesn't start and i don't see syslog running, whats happening ? |
| 18:46.09 | Konomi | got a disc in the drive fitty-sis-hunrd ? |
| 18:46.09 | fitty-sis-hunrd | http://pastebin.com/ULcJHSG4 |
| 18:46.18 | fitty-sis-hunrd | yes Konomi |
| 18:46.24 | Konomi | sudo blkid /dev/sr0 |
| 18:46.27 | brandonj | Deffie: why did you install Sarge? |
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| 18:47.11 | Konomi | what does that command say |
| 18:47.12 | Deffie | brandonj: pardon, i've installed the current version, evidently stable it is no more sarge :) |
| 18:47.35 | fitty-sis-hunrd | Konomi blkid /dev/sr0 does nothing |
| 18:47.38 | brandonj | Deffie: haha good! My first suggestion was going to be "try the most recent release" |
| 18:47.51 | Konomi | does dmesg mention anything about it? |
| 18:48.07 | sioux_ | hi guys |
| 18:48.12 | babilen | Deffie: sarge is /really/ old these days |
| 18:48.21 | Deffie | brandonj: it is 6.0 |
| 18:48.27 | fitty-sis-hunrd | dmesg | grep dvd gives [ 2.950169] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray |
| 18:48.36 | sioux_ | i use this command, iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 5900 -j DNAT --to 190.0.0.89:5900 |
| 18:48.38 | foxtrot9 | Where can I get the library file libz.so.1? Seems a program I'm running uses it, where can I find this library? |
| 18:48.43 | Konomi | same as my drive |
| 18:48.48 | sioux_ | but i want remove this rule in the specify time |
| 18:48.49 | Konomi | you need firmware |
| 18:48.50 | Konomi | as I said |
| 18:49.06 | fitty-sis-hunrd | Konomi installed the firmware, do I need to reboot? |
| 18:49.13 | Konomi | probably |
| 18:49.19 | brandonj | Deffie: so when you boot, services aren't starting up? |
| 18:49.21 | Konomi | idk how to reload it without rebooting |
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| 18:49.27 | fitty-sis-hunrd | crap! brb after reboot |
| 18:49.36 | awc737 | does adding this to my sources then running alt-get upgrade, upgrade me to wheezy? deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib |
| 18:49.44 | sioux_ | i`m tryng, iptables -t nat -D PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 5900 -j DNAT --to 190.0.0.89:5900 | at 19:00pm today |
| 18:50.25 | awc737 | shit I did not mean to upgrade to F8cking wheezy |
| 18:50.59 | awc737 | http://serverfault.com/questions/404815/how-can-i-upgrade-php-to-a-higher-version-for-debian-squeeze |
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| 18:51.06 | awc737 | I was following that, and only wanted PHP 5.4 |
| 18:52.08 | zykotick9 | awc737: not sure how it applies to PHP, but for next time see "/msg dpkg ssb". mixing binary repos is a bad idea. |
| 18:52.10 | Konomi | pinning is complex I dont even like describing how to do it to people |
| 18:52.12 | babilen | awc737: That will cause you to perform a completely unsupported and partial upgrade to wheezy, yes. |
| 18:52.28 | awc737 | f*cking a |
| 18:52.31 | babilen | awc737: AFAIK you /can not/ have PHP5.4 on squeeze. |
| 18:52.36 | sioux_ | but when try this, remove imediately the rule |
| 18:52.38 | awc737 | that sounds so horrible |
| 18:52.59 | Konomi | I run pinned repos though but you have to be careful |
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| 18:53.01 | awc737 | how do I... undo? |
| 18:53.10 | babilen | awc737: Well, we don't know, but the upgrade to wheezy is a bit more involved. See "/msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy" and "/msg dpkg wheezy release notes" for details. |
| 18:53.19 | Konomi | no easy way to undo that I imagine |
| 18:53.30 | awc737 | so much BS |
| 18:53.37 | babilen | awc737: You can, most likely, not undo that. But please show me the output of "dpkg -l libc6 apt multiarch-support" |
| 18:53.39 | awc737 | how does someone type that guide and not mention the consequence |
| 18:54.02 | Konomi | you have to be careful following guides on the internet from users that one is not exactly offical in anyway |
| 18:54.07 | babilen | awc737: Beats me -- There are a lot of horrible "tutorials" out there. |
| 18:54.10 | awc737 | good it finished upgrading. babilen http://paste.laravel.com/ite |
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| 18:54.24 | Deffie | brandonj: ssh doesn't start even if i do /etc/init.d/ssh start, it starts if i call sshd executable with full path and config file |
| 18:54.34 | awc737 | Would it have been possible to install the one PHP 5.4 package out of wheezy, but keep squeeze? |
| 18:54.49 | Konomi | it would be providing the dependices allow for it |
| 18:54.58 | babilen | awc737: Yeah, you are somewhere between squeeze and wheezy now. Given that you upgraded libc6 a downgrade might be impossible. |
| 18:55.38 | awc737 | lol I am such in a nether abyss of nowehere |
| 18:55.45 | awc737 | is this real life |
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| 18:56.01 | babilen | awc737: No, as I said: I don't think that you can install PHP 5.4 on sqeeze. It is a common question in here as PHP seems to be particularly bad regarding backwards compatibility. Normally you might be able to install newer versions from backports (/msg dpkg bdo) or create backports yourself (/msg dpkg ssb) |
| 18:56.04 | Konomi | depends on your point of view ;p |
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| 18:56.53 | Konomi | hopefully someone can help fitty with that dvd drive issue I am sleeping ~ |
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| 18:57.16 | Konomi | when s/he gets back from that 10 year reboot |
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| 18:57.31 | babilen | awc737: You should never mix stable with anything but backports, but I am not aware of somebody who successfully backports PHP (and its build-dependencies) -- My recommendation would be to simply run wheezy somewhere. (either in a VM, chroot, container) or upgrade the host completely to it. (it is acceptable to do that at this point in the release cycle, but note that security support is not on-par with what you get with stable) |
| 18:58.10 | awc737 | well I'm already here in this netherrealm |
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| 18:58.53 | awc737 | but apt-get install -t wheezy php5 gives me this error: http://paste.laravel.com/itf |
| 18:59.06 | babilen | awc737: You can continue the upgrade. /At least/ read "/msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy" but it might make sense to take a look at the release notes too. |
| 18:59.18 | babilen | awc737: You cannot mix wheezy and squeeze like that. |
| 18:59.20 | awc737 | I already apt-get update / apt-get upgrade |
| 18:59.35 | babilen | dpkg: squeeze->wheeze |
| 18:59.35 | dpkg | babilen: i don't know |
| 18:59.39 | babilen | dpkg: squeeze->wheezy |
| 18:59.39 | dpkg | First, understand that testing is a pre-release distribution without timely security support and that you may have a slightly bumpy ride; ask me about <moving target> <testing> <testing security>. From /etc/apt/sources.list, remove stable-specific lines like squeeze-updates and backports, and change squeeze to wheezy. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. If you feel you need more instructions, perhaps you should wait a while. |
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| 18:59.54 | awc737 | damn |
| 18:59.59 | awc737 | so I may as well go all the way now how |
| 19:00.01 | awc737 | huh* |
| 19:00.49 | babilen | awc737: You need /at least/ an "apt-get dist-upgrade" but please follow the instructions. Upgrading from one major release to the next is /not/ something that should be done on a whim and without following some sane procedure. The recommended way is documented in the release notes (/msg dpkg wheezy release notes), but you will need /at least/ a dist-upgrade. |
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| 19:01.18 | babilen | awc737: You have to go all the way now, I don't think that you can downgrade to pure squeeze. You could try, but that might break your system. |
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| 19:01.23 | awc737 | yeah |
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| 19:02.29 | petn-randall | This, my friends, is the reason you shouldn't get medical advice from the internet. |
| 19:02.53 | awc737 | here is my new sources.list |
| 19:02.54 | awc737 | http://paste.laravel.com/ith |
| 19:02.56 | awc737 | and here it goes... |
| 19:03.03 | Deffie | so, anyone knows why my installed 6.0 reports (live)user@host in prompt and cannot start ssh ? |
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| 19:03.09 | petn-randall | You might end up with a pen lodged in your ribs because serverfault gave you the tip. |
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| 19:03.24 | petn-randall | Deffie: Sounds like an incomplete install to me. |
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| 19:03.47 | awc737 | is that sources.list enough? |
| 19:03.48 | awc737 | two lines? |
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| 19:04.26 | petn-randall | awc737: except for the fact that wheezy doesn't get security support yet, yes. |
| 19:04.35 | awc737 | thanks |
| 19:04.57 | babilen | awc737: http://paste.debian.net/237167/ is a fully fledged wheezy sources.list |
| 19:05.46 | babilen | Deffie: Wasn't it sarge you installed? |
| 19:06.00 | awc737 | thanks |
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| 19:07.11 | Deffie | babilen: nope, it is 6.0 dunno its name, i guessed sarge but evidently i'm old |
| 19:07.29 | petn-randall | Deffie: squeeze |
| 19:07.57 | petn-randall | Deffie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian#Release_history |
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| 19:08.24 | Deffie | very well, but why it is reporting (live)user@host and cannot start any service ? |
| 19:08.42 | petn-randall | Deffie: It still sounds like an incomplete install to me. |
| 19:08.57 | babilen | Deffie: How did you install it? Which installer image did you use? |
| 19:09.14 | babilen | Deffie: What will this box be used for? |
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| 19:10.03 | awc737 | what is dotdeb good for? |
| 19:10.09 | Deffie | i've installed it from a live usb key, it will be a has it is a fileserver with 2 eight sata ports raid arrays |
| 19:10.09 | babilen | awc737: btw, make sure you remove the apt_preferences file you created if you followed that tutorial |
| 19:10.17 | awc737 | I never got that far |
| 19:10.25 | awc737 | I just got to ... SHHTTT WTF its installing wheezy |
| 19:10.28 | babilen | dpkg: tell awc737 -about dotdeb |
| 19:10.40 | awc737 | I like this bot.... |
| 19:10.47 | awc737 | I'm building a bot with nodejs, I want him that smart |
| 19:11.19 | babilen | awc737: I've seen many people wreck their boxes with dotdeb and wouldn't recommend it. YMMV and they might have improved, we neither support dotdeb nor systems with dotdeb packages. |
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| 19:11.37 | awc737 | ah ok ill stay away |
| 19:12.27 | awc737 | although it looks like I could have easily added PHP 5.4 with dotdeb to squeez |
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| 19:12.35 | babilen | awc737: They might work these days, but I've seen many problems caused by dotdeb packages and stop supporting as soon as I see that a dotdeb packaged touched the system. |
| 19:12.46 | babilen | *shrug* |
| 19:12.46 | petn-randall | well, you gain a lot of experience from re-installing your machines, so I guess the time is not completely wasted ... :-> |
| 19:13.08 | awc737 | lol i've installed wheezy and squeeze plenty enough times |
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| 19:13.30 | awc737 | and this machine was intended for squeez |
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| 19:14.21 | babilen | awc737: IMHO my opinion: Just use wheezy right now. It is okay at this point in the release cycle - Take extra care to keep informed about security problems (/msg dpkg dsa ; /msg dpkg tracker of doom) and act accordingly. You might also want to beat your devs into submission to actually develop for the platform they deploy on (or write backwards compatible code, this is common in Python, Perl, Java, ... it can't be that hard in PHP) |
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| 19:15.05 | awc737 | babilen: yeah I don't mind wheezy, but what about the upgrade path I took? |
| 19:15.15 | awc737 | didn't you mention it was unsupported? is the result any different |
| 19:15.44 | babilen | awc737: "adventurous but not lost" |
| 19:16.08 | awc737 | lol what? |
| 19:16.41 | babilen | awc737: Well, short of reverting to your recent backup or installing wheezy from scratch it is the best you can do. It will probably work, but is not "the blessed way" |
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| 19:17.06 | awc737 | ok, well its done dist-upgrading, my sites are working now, all seems well |
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| 19:17.14 | awc737 | anyway my VPS provider doesn't have a wheezy image |
| 19:17.25 | awc737 | so this was probably the only way anyway |
| 19:17.28 | babilen | awc737: also note that some of the bugs that prevent wheezy from being released as stable are specific to the upgrade path and are still being worked on (e.g. "/msg dpkg immediate configuration") |
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| 19:17.50 | babilen | awc737: Oh, can you upgrade the kernel? |
| 19:17.53 | petn-randall | babilen: Upgrading like this isn't the blessed way? Which one is? |
| 19:18.16 | gasoline | is W95 FAT32 (LBA) compatible ? |
| 19:18.23 | babilen | petn-randall: Upgrading by adding wheezy and installing php from wheezy is /definitely/ not the blessed way. Why do you think it should be? |
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| 19:18.55 | babilen | awc737: I'll be afk for a little while, good luck and until later :) |
| 19:18.59 | awc737 | babilen: I probably can? |
| 19:19.00 | petn-randall | babilen: Well, except for that part. But changing /etc/apt/sources.list and dist-upgrading is kinda the way everyone does it. |
| 19:19.04 | awc737 | actually its a KVM vps, I have no idea |
| 19:19.19 | petn-randall | babilen: I think the real problem is that awc737 didn't intend to dist-upgrade ... |
| 19:19.29 | gasoline | is W95 FAT32 (LBA) compatible with windowz ? |
| 19:19.33 | gasoline | or W95 Ext'd (LBA) ? |
| 19:19.40 | babilen | petn-randall: yeah, that's better. I would still recommend to actually follow the release notes. Those stops make sense and make recovery/support/debugging much easier. |
| 19:19.50 | babilen | gasoline: ask ##windows (but yes) |
| 19:19.58 | awc737 | thanks for your help babilen |
| 19:20.00 | gasoline | which one peep ? |
| 19:20.02 | babilen | petn-randall: yeah, I am well aware of that |
| 19:20.18 | babilen | gasoline: You are aware that this is #debian and not ##windows aren't you? |
| 19:20.21 | gasoline | you any good with microshit ? |
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| 19:20.46 | babilen | gasoline: Play elsewhere please |
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| 19:21.52 | Zal | hi all, I experienced errors when installing one package via apt-get, and now every package installation displays the error message for the previous package failure. How can I clear the previous failure message? |
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| 19:22.55 | petn-randall | Zal: what message is it exactly? What did you install with apt-get? |
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| 19:22.58 | Zal | subsequent package installations are unrelated to the failed package, and do install, despite dpkg reporting errors for the old package on the console |
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| 19:23.22 | petn-randall | Zal: sounds like you installed packages with dpkg and not with apt-get. |
| 19:24.39 | Zal | petn-randall, I use only apt-get. for example "apt-get install ruby" installs ruby, but displays the previous error "Errors were encountered while processing: python-svn; Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)". python-svn is the previous package that failed. |
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| 19:25.42 | petn-randall | Zal: try 'dpkg --configure -a', and if that doesn't help, 'apt-get install -f' |
| 19:25.49 | Zal | great, thanks |
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| 19:26.29 | petn-randall | Zal: first command configures any unconfigured packages, second command installs any packages that are needed to satisfy dependencies. |
| 19:26.39 | petn-randall | Zal: Tell me if it worked for you. |
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| 19:29.06 | Zal | neither worked, still getting dpkg errors for python-svn (the errors are during configuration, bad postinst apparently). Will dpkg --remove perhaps help? |
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| 19:30.03 | petn-randall | Zal: Can you pastebin the full error? |
| 19:30.43 | Zal | dpkg --remove python-svn seems to have cleared it. The full error is pasted in my original example. |
| 19:30.44 | dpkg | rips the still-beating python-svn seems to have cleared it. The full error is pasted in my original example. from zal's chest, leaving zal in a coma. |
| 19:31.19 | Zal | "Errors were encountered while processing: python-svn; Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" |
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| 19:31.45 | Zal | and now dpkg --configure -a shows no errors, as it did last time |
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| 19:32.17 | petn-randall | Zal: hmm. You might need to do dpkg purge python-svn to fix it. It will also delete any config files left. |
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| 19:33.56 | Zal | OK, if it comes up again, I will try a purge. Fro now, the --remove seems to have helped |
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| 19:34.14 | Zal | thanks for the help, petn-randall |
| 19:34.37 | petn-randall | Zal: you're welcome, any time again :) |
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| 20:09.31 | Deffie | anyone knows why my just installed squeeze is reporting (live)root@host at prompt and cannot start services like ssh ? |
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| 20:12.58 | zhvtar | Deffie: are you trying to start it as the (live)root user? |
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| 20:14.25 | Deffie | zhvtar: nope i just wanted to install normal system from a live image copied to an usb key, but once started the installed system i've found it is saying (live) at command prompt and services like syslog ssh and samba cannot start if i call them from /etc/init.d nor they start at boot |
| 20:14.36 | kristijonas | Hello, how to find out why some of servers listen ports on tcp6? |
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| 20:15.27 | zhvtar | Deffie: when you try /etc/init.d do they give any kind of error? have you checked the logs? /var/log/... |
| 20:15.54 | Deffie | zhvtar: no errors, no output and no logs since theres no syslog running |
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| 20:16.53 | Deffie | zhvtar: i'm actually connected to it remotely (i'd leave the office) via webmin which starts at boot and i started an sshd from it by calling fullpath/sshd configfile |
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| 20:17.46 | Deffie | zhvtar: i can reinstall it on monday but would be nice to recover it since i have to move a lot of data to this system and the weekend would help |
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| 20:18.10 | zhvtar | Deffie: I would recommend trying the install again. D |
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| 20:18.35 | sioux_ | hi i use this command to put some rule: iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 5900 -j DNAT --to 190.0.0.5:5900 . I Want remove this rule .. some time after i put. So i run this command,iptables -t nat -D PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 5900 -j DNAT --to 190.0.0.5:5900 | at 7:00pm today |
| 20:18.45 | sioux_ | but the command remove the rule imediataly |
| 20:18.54 | Deffie | zhvtar: :) any way to do it from the running system ? maybe i can try to dist-upgrade to wheezy as it is frozen |
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| 20:22.21 | zhvtar | Deffie: If this is a production machine at work, I wouldn't take chances. But that is me. |
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| 20:24.01 | Deffie | zhvtar: you are right, lets see what happens, ill reinstall if anything looks wrong |
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| 20:25.27 | zhvtar | Deffie: you're sure it isn't still running the live-usb system right? It really did start the installed system? |
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| 20:26.02 | Deffie | zhvtar: yup, the usb drive is in my pocket |
| 20:27.27 | wsky | Deffie: what version of debian is this? |
| 20:27.37 | Deffie | squeeze |
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| 20:29.00 | Deffie | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/i386/usb-hdd/ this is what i dumped to the usb drive |
| 20:29.33 | Deffie | then i choose to install, it partitioned installed packages etc as usual |
| 20:29.48 | jhutchins_wk | Deffie: It does not sound like it installed correctly, I would try again. Is the Live USB drive still connected? |
| 20:30.18 | Deffie | nope, i'm at home and i'm on a vpn with it in the datacenter |
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| 20:30.45 | jhutchins_wk | Deffie: Ah, so not easy to mount it and reinstall. |
| 20:31.01 | jhutchins_wk | Deffie: How did you perform the installation? |
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| 20:31.05 | Deffie | hehe not quite easy :) |
| 20:31.24 | zhvtar | Deffie: It really sounds like the install b0rked. Should have created new users near beginning. |
| 20:31.25 | Deffie | i've booted from the usb drive and i chosen to install system |
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| 20:32.04 | Deffie | actually i'm upgrading it to wheezy |
| 20:32.09 | Deffie | it is installing packages |
| 20:32.57 | Deffie | at least i will get a somewhat useful system to mount cifs shares and copy some TBs of data on this machine in the weekend, then on monday i can reinstall the system |
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| 20:33.42 | Deffie | data will be sitting on a couple of raid 5 arrays |
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| 20:36.24 | Deffie | it would be nice if i've had the console on rs232 connected to another machine |
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| 20:37.50 | gitsu-sa | hi |
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| 20:46.01 | koldus | hi guys, i got an error on mailman on a old lenny :D |
| 20:46.13 | babilen | Deffie: Typically you wouldn't install from the live image. Most installations are performed using with debian-installer using images from "/msg dpkg install squeeze" or "/msg dpkg install wheezy" |
| 20:46.26 | babilen | dpkg: tell koldus -about lenny |
| 20:46.51 | koldus | Bug in Mailman version 2.1.11 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. |
| 20:47.16 | koldus | i tried on google i found all refers to /opt/usr/cpanel that i doesn't have :D |
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| 20:48.09 | mrfanty | I am trying to install debian 32bit on my windows 7 machine (VMWare). But I am confused over the downloads. Can anyone point me in the right direction? |
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| 20:57.09 | Nothing4You | wheezy is testing, right? |
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| 20:57.20 | Towzzer | yes |
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| 20:57.38 | johnfg | hi guys |
| 20:57.38 | sc_ | Nothing4You: or Lil Wayne, both are correct |
| 20:57.46 | jhutchins_wk | babilen: I thought the lives were hybrids these days. |
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| 20:58.19 | johnfg | Anyway I can get into a running urxvt terminal, like in screen or tmux? I got something running there, but didn't use screen or tmux. |
| 20:58.19 | Nothing4You | when i upgrade there's a ton of packages to get upgraded - the upgrade notes however say unstable? |
| 20:58.29 | Nothing4You | like expect (5.45-1) unstable; urgency=low |
| 20:58.47 | erjk | Hi. I installed Windows 7 today. I managed to login into Debian afterwards, but want to bring back grub2 into MBR. How do I do that? I don't have installation CD/DVD anymore. |
| 20:59.11 | Nothing4You | erjk: you need a new live linux medium which you can use to install grub |
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| 20:59.46 | wsky | erjk: you boot a live system, chroot into the installed debian and run grub-install |
| 20:59.59 | wsky | making long story short |
| 21:00.29 | erjk | wsky, Could I do that without any live media? |
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| 21:01.02 | zhvtar | johnfg: see if anything here helps: |
| 21:01.05 | wsky | how did you log in to your debian with windows bootloader? |
| 21:01.06 | zhvtar | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/4034/how-can-i-disown-a-running-process-and-associate-it-to-a-new-screen-shell |
| 21:01.10 | jhutchins_wk | kolDid you look at the mailman logs as it suggested? |
| 21:01.34 | erjk | wsky: I used some Windows tool EasyBCD to alter Windows boot list. |
| 21:02.02 | wsky | so you have access yo your debian. you boot it and run grub-install |
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| 21:02.43 | erjk | wsky: "sudo grub-install /dev/sda6"? |
| 21:02.52 | wsky | /dev/sda |
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| 21:03.07 | erjk | wsky: Alright. I'm trying that. |
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| 21:03.16 | jhutchins_wk | Might want to run update-grub first to pick up the Windows install/. |
| 21:03.25 | wsky | right, that too |
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| 21:03.39 | erjk | wsky: "Installation finished. No error reported." Is that all? : O |
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| 21:03.58 | wsky | ye, you can run update-grub now to complete your grub.cfg |
| 21:03.58 | erjk | jhutchins_wk: I already did update-grub, but thanks. |
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| 21:04.08 | jhutchins_wk | wsky: Sorry, we had to cut the dancing girls. |
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| 21:04.29 | wsky | hm? |
| 21:04.30 | jhutchins_wk | er, erjk |
| 21:04.39 | erjk | That was easy : ). Thanks for help wsky and jhutchins_wk ! |
| 21:04.55 | jhutchins_wk | wsky: The dancing girls when update-grub succeeds. |
| 21:04.57 | wsky | np, gl&hf |
| 21:05.04 | wsky | jhutchins_wk: hehe |
| 21:05.20 | jhutchins_wk | Space restrictions you know. |
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| 21:06.17 | hyppias | is there a command to output the IP addresses of the nameservers to console? |
| 21:06.22 | wsky | cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 21:06.27 | hyppias | like the are in resolv.conf |
| 21:06.48 | hyppias | yes but how dir resolv.conf "find" them out? |
| 21:06.58 | hyppias | dir=did |
| 21:07.02 | Towzzer | installation or there is now a program that does it |
| 21:07.12 | Towzzer | your dhcp server will hand out that kind of info also |
| 21:07.12 | wsky | hyppias: dhcp client wrote them to it |
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| 21:09.58 | hyppias | >> appends to a file. how to prepend? |
| 21:10.18 | erjk | wsky: I restarted my PC and now it nicely boots into GRUB. Still I have another problem. After Windows installation today, but not right afterwards, all the data on one of the NTFS partitions I use on Windows disappeared. It used to be almost 90% full, but now the only file is "bootsqm.dat". I haven't formatted it. Maybe you know what could be the reason of this? |
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| 21:11.23 | wsky | erjk: very probable that you've accidentally reformated it during installation |
| 21:11.34 | wsky | hyppias: i do not quite follow |
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| 21:12.23 | dennisvb | Is it possible to compress an iso file and burn it on a dvd? |
| 21:12.40 | johnfg | zhvtar, am checking, thanks |
| 21:12.42 | erjk | wsky: No. After the installation the partition was alright. Then I switched to Debian and started coping some dictionary files on it (a lot, 250 000 files) and cancelled it in the middle because it was going very slowly. Then I switched to Windows and the partition was empty. |
| 21:13.24 | wsky | erjk: never happened to me, might be a software failure combined with user error |
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| 21:14.44 | erjk | wsk: I don't know what exactly that means, but I guess it's lost. |
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| 21:15.26 | hyppias | wsky: already found it: echo "nameserver ${GATEWAY} " | cat - /etc/resolv.conf > /tmp/out && mv /tmp/out /etc/resolv.conf &&rm /tmp/out |
| 21:15.27 | wsky | erjk: well it means that you've done something you shouldn't do with faulty software |
| 21:15.57 | erjk | wsk: All I did was copy files in KDE's Dolphin then cancel it in the middle. |
| 21:16.06 | wsky | ohh |
| 21:16.09 | hyppias | puts text at the head of the file, not the tail |
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| 21:16.30 | jhutchins_wk | hyppias: The dhcp client usually updates resolv conf when it gets servers from the host. |
| 21:16.31 | johnfg | If I do ps -e|grep make, and it comes up with nothing (as root too), then the process should be over, right? |
| 21:17.21 | wsky | erjk: well, it comes with no warranty |
| 21:17.51 | erjk | wsky: : ) Next time when I will want to copy file, I will think twice |
| 21:18.05 | jhutchins_wk | erjk: Are you using ext3? |
| 21:18.06 | wsky | do you use ntfs-3g? |
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| 21:18.21 | jhutchins_wk | D'Oh! Brailslip. |
| 21:18.23 | yucatan | how can i removes all files in my system called file.test |
| 21:18.31 | hyppias | jhutchins_wk: I see that de dns servers of my provider appear in resolv. Should my router not be in resolv too? for local addresses? |
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| 21:19.23 | erjk | jham: I have 2 EXT3 partitions for Linux and 2 NTFS partitions for Windows |
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| 21:19.31 | erjk | jhutchins_wk* |
| 21:19.56 | erjk | wsky, I don't know if it's ntfs-3g. How do I check that? |
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| 21:23.13 | wsky | erjk: run mount |
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| 21:25.13 | lupine | yucatan, find / -iname file.test -delete |
| 21:25.22 | lupine | or similar |
| 21:25.25 | drasko | HI all, I saw here http://wiki.debian.org/EmDebian/CrossDebootstrap#QEMU.2Fdebootstrap_approach that debootstrap is used with Qemu to do cross FS. Is Qemu necesary or cross compilar can be used in chroot environment ? |
| 21:25.27 | lupine | try it without -delete first, of cours |
| 21:25.58 | erjk | /dev/sdb1 on /media/wysypisko type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096) |
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| 21:26.25 | erjk | wsky: What does fuseblk mean? Linux partitions are EXT4, not EXT3 as I stated. |
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| 21:27.20 | wsky | erjk: this means you use ntfs-3g which uses fuse userspace, virtual filesystem or something |
| 21:27.53 | wsky | wsky: hard to say but i'd bet on dolphin screwing this up nicely for you |
| 21:28.06 | wsky | erjk: ^ |
| 21:28.21 | erjk | wsky: does ntfs has some limits on number of files per directory? I was coping a directory with hundreds thousands of small files inside. |
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| 21:28.39 | wsky | yes each filesystem has such limitations |
| 21:29.31 | wsky | Max. number of files4,294,967,295 |
| 21:29.40 | wsky | i supose you fit in this |
| 21:30.09 | wsky | erjk: which version of kde do you use? |
| 21:30.17 | erjk | wsky: Yeah, I found the number too. My number is 189,000 so it fits easily. |
| 21:31.20 | erjk | wsky: 4.8.4 |
| 21:32.34 | erjk | wsky: I think you're right with Dolphin being the victim here. Fortunately the files weren't top-priority. |
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| 21:32.49 | wsky | same here lol; feels bad to use kde and switch back to mc because dolphins screws something up. however it might have been also ntfs-3g's or fuse's fault |
| 21:34.17 | erjk | wsky, I won't switch to Windows, still stay on my KDE Debian. I just need Windows it to run few piece of software. |
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| 21:34.35 | erjk | wsky: I'll be going. Once more thank you for your help. |
| 21:34.41 | wsky | np |
| 21:34.46 | wsky | bye |
| 21:34.53 | erjk | bye |
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| 22:05.27 | haylo | sorry for repost: But I really want to get an opinion/info on this |
| 22:05.31 | haylo | I am pretty massivly confused about encryption. is aes-loop deprecated? or becoming so perhaps. I want to be able to handle all of my encryption from the command line. like I handle my installs ( debootstrap |
| 22:05.35 | haylo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.02 | haylo | s/orot/root |
| 22:06.30 | haylo | I want to start with encrypting the debootstrap installs. and then when I learn more, patch it to live build |
| 22:07.36 | wsky | haylo: sorry, it's friday evening, every winner stays away from irc |
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| 22:08.11 | haylo | oh, i am on the greyhound bus, going 2000 miles :) |
| 22:08.27 | wsky | jelly |
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| 22:09.04 | haylo | ill up you one. preserves |
| 22:09.07 | drasko | HI all, I saw here http://wiki.debian.org/EmDebian/CrossDebootstrap#QEMU.2Fdebootstrap_approach that debootstrap is used with Qemu to do cross FS. Is Qemu necesary or cross compilar can be used in chroot environment ? |
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| 22:10.16 | haylo | drasko: people use qemu to emulate architecturs that their computer cant support. and as a versatile virtual machine |
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| 22:11.03 | haylo | for example: you could build system for armel processors on qemu. even if you had no other access to that type of device |
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| 22:11.54 | Bronze | Is there any way to build a debian system and -not- use the "alternatives" packages on it? |
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| 22:12.38 | somiaj | Bronze: why don't you want to use the alternatives system? Seems that is kinda a core feature of many packages and isn't an option you can just turn on/off |
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| 22:13.48 | haylo | well, you can build a slightly more minimal system by using the --no-recommends option with apt-get or aptitude Bronze . man apt-get maybe that will help you for what you want |
| 22:13.56 | Bronze | somiaj: with 30 years of UNIX/Linux under my belt i find the alternatives facility to be a total pain in the ass. It just gets in my way, slows my system down, makes the system more comples and more fragile for absolutely no benefit |
| 22:14.34 | Bronze | Everything the alternatives system does is either not needed or largely already done by existing facilities. |
| 22:14.42 | haylo | --no-install-recommends * sorry |
| 22:15.14 | Bronze | haylo: I'll check it out, thanks |
| 22:15.15 | somiaj | Bronze: I guess I don't see how it slows your system down, it is just links. We are both talking about /etc/alternatives correct? |
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| 22:15.35 | Bronze | somiaj: are you a software engineer? |
| 22:15.36 | somiaj | you can also configure apt to not install recomends by default. Though this is not suggested |
| 22:16.14 | rryoumaa | is alternatives used for things like sensible-* (not running debian right now) |
| 22:16.22 | somiaj | Bronze: no, but I still am courious. I don't see why links get in the way espically when there are multiple packages that provide the same functionality. |
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| 22:16.54 | Bronze | somiaj: thank god. No software engineer would ever say "I don't see how it slows your system down, it is just links.". |
| 22:17.06 | haylo | Bronze: there is also a --variant=minimal option for debootsrap. if you want to make a truly small debian system. that coupled with --no-install-recommends, creates a slim size that not may distributions can match |
| 22:17.23 | haylo | but it is inherently, not functional unless you have some experience |
| 22:17.28 | haylo | which it sounds like you do |
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| 22:17.46 | Bronze | haylo: are those options/directives documented on thedebian website? |
| 22:17.50 | Bronze | *the debian |
| 22:18.09 | Bronze | or anywhere? I love reading documentation. |
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| 22:18.17 | somiaj | it still won't remove the /etc/alternatives because that is actually part of dpkg a core package you cannot remove |
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| 22:18.35 | somiaj | and it is up to the packages themselves if they choose to set up an alternative or not. So to get rid of it you basically have to rebuild every package that uses it. |
| 22:18.36 | haylo | man debootstrap, and man apt-get . they are in those optins. you would have to debootstrap a minimal base and the install without recommends. adding back the necessary things that it may have left out |
| 22:18.51 | Bronze | back in 1983 i read the entire BSD manual set. took a wekk. (No way anyone can do that now. ) |
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| 22:20.04 | Bronze | somiaj: interesting. How does a package use it? Did all applications get altered to check for an alternative for them selves or were just the command shells changed? |
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| 22:20.10 | abcdeef | hello |
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| 22:20.48 | haylo | Bronze: easiest way is just to make something slim with debian live build. and it has an easy option to boot everything to ram |
| 22:21.09 | haylo | boot parameter * I should say |
| 22:21.33 | Bronze | haylo: I'm enjoying the live debian system right now, on my real desktop. I like it vbery much. |
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| 22:21.37 | Bronze | *very |
| 22:21.37 | somiaj | Bronze: they are probably set up in the postinst script, and I think is part of debian policy to ensure the thousands of packages we have play nicely together. |
| 22:21.59 | haylo | Bronze: I was able to make one, fully functional at 62 MB . is aweosme |
| 22:22.04 | abcdeef | my native languague is not english, could someone translate to me this?:is this does not bring the Vatican down I don't know what would. You can't make this sh*t up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:22.16 | haylo | i think thats maybe 290 unsqaushed |
| 22:22.20 | abcdeef | what does make this shit up means please= |
| 22:22.27 | abcdeef | ? |
| 22:22.38 | haylo | abcdeef: this is a technical channel |
| 22:22.42 | Bronze | somiaj: On other Linux lines everything already plays together nicely without it. :) |
| 22:22.46 | somiaj | abcdeef: there are language specific channels on freenode. Also this is not debian related. |
| 22:22.52 | abcdeef | i am a programmer mate |
| 22:22.53 | haylo | if you want to chat, you can find people on #debian-offtopic |
| 22:23.07 | abcdeef | aber i have problems undertanding that sentence, i need your help |
| 22:23.30 | haylo | abcdeef: if you want to chat please join #debian-offtopic. or #moocows on irc.oftc.net |
| 22:23.32 | Bronze | abcdeef: you aere in the wrong place. Join #debian-offtopic and i help you take the next step |
| 22:23.43 | abcdeef | ok, thanks |
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| 22:24.30 | somiaj | Bronze: and each linux distro has to go though their own method of getting it to work. the alternatives system was debians implication they are sticking with and as it being core, as I said the only awy to totally do away with it is rebuild all the packages to not use it. |
| 22:24.52 | opr | hi all - Im trying to install debian from the netinst cd, but my keyboard doesn't work. I can use it at the very first screen (install, graphic install) but any further than that and it stops. my keyboard is USB - Razer Lycosa |
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| 22:25.08 | drasko | haylo, I know what qemu is used for. I am just wondering why we can not debootstrap, and than use cross-comppiler on the host to sonficure all FS for ARM, for example. |
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| 22:25.42 | Bronze | somiaj: no. Everything already worked without it. It was someones attempt to make one small issue a little easier to deal with. |
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| 22:27.39 | Bronze | somiaj: you keep saying all the packages that use it would need to be rebuilt. Which packages would that be? the user applications, or the command shells? |
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| 22:27.52 | somiaj | Bronze: anyways you could use the dev's mailing list of you want an offical response as to why it is there. |
| 22:28.07 | somiaj | Bronze: any applcation that sets up an alternative and decides to use a link instead of an actual binary for its files |
| 22:28.19 | stormy_ | hey i wonder if someone could help, i've just installed debian on my pc and it's duel boot with win 7. I look in the kern.log and i keep getting Feb 22 22:18:36 storm kernel: [ 784.972204] r8169 0000:07:00.0: eth0: link up every 2 minutes, i can resolve the hostname to my vps but i can't connect to it, where from windows it works fine |
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| 22:28.33 | stormy_ | any one got any ideas as i'm at a loss! :( |
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| 22:29.17 | somiaj | Bronze: the man page for update-alternatives may also give you a suggestion. But when a package is installed that package puts the files/links where they need to be and sets up the alternative system (if it decides to use it). |
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| 22:30.40 | haylo | You dont even use debootstrap for arm. its crossdebootstrap. have to have qemu if you are building on standard architecture. just like you cant build 64bit systems on a 32 bit computer |
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| 22:31.10 | haylo | if there are exceptins, they are more complicated than the rule. and likely not worth the wasted agrivation and lack of documantation |
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| 22:31.42 | thinkerweb | do we have any updates for emacs php html editing? |
| 22:32.12 | thinkerweb | I still get old fashion html 4 autofills, and text formatting could be improveed |
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| 22:32.42 | drasko | haylo, I know what qemu is used for. I am just wondering why we can not debootstrap, and than use cross-comppiler on the host to sonficure all FS for ARM, for example. |
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| 22:33.22 | somiaj | drasko: how do you expect to run arm binaries on a amd64 system? |
| 22:33.37 | opr | hi all - Im trying to install debian from the netinst cd, but my keyboard doesn't work. I can use it at the very first screen (install, graphic install) but any further than that and it stops. my keyboard is USB - Razer Lycosa |
| 22:33.38 | haylo | crossdebootstrap onto the host. ofc you can do that. |
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| 22:35.38 | stormy_ | opr: , you using the primary usb ports, the reason i say sthis i had same problem, when i put it into the usb3 port it didn't work, i put it back into the usb2 port it worked fine :D |
| 22:35.58 | opr | stormy_, ah ok, let me try! |
| 22:35.59 | stormy_ | had it on laptop as well put it on the docking station and it didn't work, plugged into the laptop directly and it worked |
| 22:36.56 | opr | stormy_, that worked, thanks! |
| 22:38.15 | stormy_ | haha no problems :) it got me confused for ages! |
| 22:39.07 | opr | lol, stupid question, but the filesystem mounted at / needs to have the bootable flag, right? |
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| 22:39.18 | somiaj | opr: not really |
| 22:39.20 | haylo | anyone use encryption on debootstrap installs ? and if so, any good links/guides ? |
| 22:39.34 | zykotick9 | opr: no, grub doesn't care about "boot flags" |
| 22:39.36 | somiaj | opr: the bootable flag is just for oses that don't use a boot manager in the mbr (such as grub) |
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| 22:39.46 | opr | ah ok, thanks |
| 22:39.47 | drasko | somiaj, why to run them ? I just want to cross-compile them |
| 22:40.01 | Bronze | somiaj: thanks, was afk reading articles on alternatives |
| 22:40.10 | drasko | somiaj, does the second stage of debootstrap demand running binaries ? |
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| 22:41.40 | deeplloyd | where can i find debian pkg for arm v7? |
| 22:41.42 | Tramp | Bronze: I'd guess, if you don't want the alternatives the easiest way might be update-alternatives --remove-all <name>, where you get all <name>s from the contents of /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/ |
| 22:42.43 | Tramp | Bronze: however, that would have to be done "manually" (and also after each installation of a package that uses alternatives) |
| 22:43.18 | drasko | does the second stage of debootstrap demand running binaries ? What's the method to create the FS by only cross-compiling ? |
| 22:43.29 | haylo | drasko: 1 arm does not use debootstrap. 2 you dont need to cross compile anything |
| 22:43.59 | haylo | and no the second stage is for something else entirely. it is not required for a nomral deboostrap |
| 22:44.45 | haylo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:48.49 | haylo | er im sorry i am thinking of emdebian. you can debootstrap arm |
| 22:48.52 | Tramp | Bronze: ah, no. The correct way to get the <name>s would be the 1st column of --get-selections |
| 22:49.39 | somiaj | Tramp: why not just use the list of links in /etc/alternatives (--get-selections would provide many names that wouldn't have an alternative assoicated with them)? |
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| 22:50.03 | Tramp | somiaj: I mean update-alternatives --get-selections |
| 22:50.16 | somiaj | oh I was thinking of dpkg, yea that makes more sense |
| 22:50.30 | Tramp | sorry for my lazy typing :) |
| 22:51.25 | somiaj | in context it makes complete sense, I just assoicate that command with dpkg as that is where I use it |
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| 22:52.17 | Tramp | the links in /etc/alternatives also cover only binaries. e.g. "desktop-background" (which is a name) has no binary |
| 22:52.45 | Tramp | ah - no - scratch that as well :) |
| 22:53.02 | drasko | haylo, what do you mean ? |
| 22:53.23 | drasko | haylo, what do you do when you wnat to create rootfs from scratch? |
| 22:53.56 | drasko | You have to use debootstrap. You can also use multistrap for Grip. But I was wondering why debootstrap demands qemu. |
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| 22:54.31 | drasko | I tend to think that second stage of deboostrap demands execution of certain binaries. but I was thinking that it is just a compilation of files. |
| 22:54.32 | haylo | it does not. I debootstrap directly onto usb's and filesystem disk images I make |
| 22:54.44 | drasko | Which then canbe done by the cross compiler - no need for qemu |
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| 22:55.30 | haylo | the second stage, actually creates another debootstrap, for a chroot enviornment. perhaps it is used in your guide as a means to an end for installing arm arch |
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| 22:55.49 | drasko | However, every single source I have found on the net mentions qemu used in the second stage |
| 22:55.52 | haylo | usually it is quite, unimportant in the process. but i suppose it could be made integral |
| 22:56.44 | drasko | haylo, I never did that, but I was wondering : FS you make with debootstrap - it remains a FS that you can easily modify on your host machine, right ? |
| 22:57.18 | drasko | What I want is something like this for cross-compilation, where I will mantain FS on the PC host |
| 22:57.37 | drasko | and not be obliged to always put it on my ARM boards and compile there |
| 22:57.54 | pfred1 | cross compiling? |
| 22:58.45 | haylo | a normal debootstrap just goes into a directory. but you can make that directory on an independant filesystem. for instance you can create a 500MB ext3 filesystem in your home dir. then dd it to a disk at a later dat |
| 22:58.57 | haylo | date * |
| 22:59.28 | drasko | haylo, yes, that is convinient. And I want to do all my FS modifications and customisations in that dir |
| 22:59.32 | drasko | on my host machine |
| 22:59.45 | drasko | and later deploy that FS on ARM boards |
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| 23:01.58 | RoenieLap | is there any decent browser that uses Qt? |
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| 23:02.41 | hypnoso | http://code.google.com/p/arora/ |
| 23:02.45 | RoenieLap | (i remember using konqueror iirc, which i didn't like back then) |
| 23:03.36 | somiaj | RoenieLap: I think webkit has a good number of front ends, one of which I would imange used qt |
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| 23:05.55 | RoenieLap | thx |
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| 23:07.50 | pfred1 | RoenieLap don't like konqueror? |
| 23:08.10 | haylo | drasko: i might try running this non official guide tonight. i have not done very much with arm http://www.kroonen.eu/wiki/Debootstrap |
| 23:08.20 | somiaj | yea the only thing I get with a quick search is arora which was already mentioned RoenieLap |
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| 23:12.34 | RoenieLap | is there something like xmarks for arora? |
| 23:13.43 | RoenieLap | does not seem to be the case |
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| 23:29.28 | roboman2444 | how do i statically compile openvpn? |
| 23:29.34 | roboman2444 | or any thing for that matter |
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| 23:29.48 | roboman2444 | i want little to no libs required for the machine im running it on |
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| 23:32.25 | somiaj | roboman2444: you need the libs and development headers and compiler tools to compile. The option is to compile on another machine (or create a chroot to compile in -- this takes up disk space but you only need to have access to it during the build) |
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| 23:34.32 | roboman2444 | yea, i have another machine |
| 23:34.36 | roboman2444 | that has said libs... |
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| 23:35.37 | phix | roboman2444: awesome, you are set then |
| 23:35.52 | phix | any particular reason why you want to statically compile it for? |
| 23:35.53 | roboman2444 | what command line switches? |
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| 23:36.10 | roboman2444 | phix, a small embedded linux |
| 23:36.29 | roboman2444 | dont really want to install a ton of libs on it, would rather staticly compile |
| 23:36.36 | phix | ok |
| 23:36.56 | phix | and no other apps require the libs? |
| 23:37.12 | roboman2444 | little teeny tiny server project |
| 23:37.48 | roboman2444 | so... no |
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| 23:38.30 | phix | ok :) |
| 23:39.01 | phix | roboman2444: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Link-Options.html |
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| 23:39.38 | roboman2444 | -static? |
| 23:39.39 | phix | although this may be out of topic though, as I am assuming you are not installing Debian on your teeny tiny server :) |
| 23:39.46 | phix | yup |
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| 23:40.05 | phix | LDFLAGS or something like that |
| 23:40.11 | phix | you stick it in |
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| 23:40.57 | roboman2444 | yea its not a debian server... but im on debian now |
| 23:41.07 | roboman2444 | so... its compiling a static thing... ON DEBIAN! |
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| 23:42.00 | roboman2444 | so im guessing -static, -static-libgcc and -static-libstdc++ |
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| 23:53.07 | stack | hello, I'm on wheezy, I would like to pin iceweasel from experimental, and having also dependancies pulled from there if needed without having to specify them , is that possible? |
| 23:53.31 | gitsu-sa | hey, i'm trying to upgrade my system by cron |
| 23:53.33 | stack | if needed should be read if the package version is not already available on wheezy |
| 23:53.33 | somiaj | stack: that is most likley a bad idea |
| 23:53.37 | gitsu-sa | but i get this error: /usr/bin/aptitude update && /usr/bin/aptitude upgrade -y |
| 23:53.40 | gitsu-sa | ops |
| 23:53.45 | gitsu-sa | those are my commands |
| 23:53.50 | gitsu-sa | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=NfPtE17A |
| 23:53.59 | somiaj | stack: right now since wheezy is freezing it is very close to sid and some experiemntail packages can be installed such as iceweasel without issue. |
| 23:54.09 | stack | somiaj: why that? to install iceweasel from experimental I have to pull them anyway |
| 23:54.44 | somiaj | stack: once wheezy becomes stable this will eventally not be the case anymore, and you do not want to pull in sid libaries to keep it working. Once that happens you will want to switch to the version provided in either backports or m.d.n will provide them as well (made for stable) |
| 23:55.20 | stack | somiaj: mh ok, what about now ? :) |
| 23:55.24 | somiaj | stack: yea, but you are only pullin in the few iceweasel specific libs, because your core is close enough to sid, this will not be the case after the freeze. This is just a termpoary thing m.d.n is suggesting until the freeze. |
| 23:55.43 | stack | somiaj: do I have to go throug depencancies that are not available and specify them on the command line to apt? |
| 23:56.29 | somiaj | stack: no, I would just pin all of experimentail low, and when you do apt-get -t experimental install iceweasel it will figure it out |
| 23:56.55 | somiaj | stack: I just wouldn't have it setup to auto update this, because as i said it could happen fairly quickly after the freeze that this could cause unexpected issues with the system. |
| 23:57.15 | stack | somiaj: now I have priority at 1 for experimental, and the dependancies are blocked, I have to specify them manually to apt-get install -t experimental |
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| 23:58.27 | stack | for example : apt-get install -t experimental iceweasel xulrunner-19.0 , yields to this error : xulrunner-19.0 : Depends: libnss3 (>= 2:3.14) but 2:3.13.6-2 is to be installed |
