| 00:00.11 | roboman2444 | bah |
| 00:00.14 | roboman2444 | still not getting it |
| 00:00.20 | roboman2444 | http://openvpn.net/archive/openvpn-devel/2004-08/msg00010.html |
| 00:01.51 | somiaj | stack: yea, this is a cludge solution. Until wheezy is stable and backports start to be made I don't think any automated solution is decent. |
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| 00:02.32 | somiaj | stack: I personally would just install it once and just use that version. It really isn't getting security updates anyways. Another option is just use a staic linked binary of firefox in your $HOME and it will use its auto update feature to keep it up to date. |
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| 00:06.40 | stack | somiaj: ok thanks for the suggestions |
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| 00:14.51 | acu_ | hello - is compiz available for wheezy in some backport ? |
| 00:15.21 | acu_ | I know, it seem eyecandy for some but ability to flip screens around is about efficiency and speed |
| 00:15.23 | thinkerweb | I am looking for an nxml-mode package for debian stable |
| 00:15.48 | somiaj | acu_: compiz is not going to be a part of wheezy. You can install the version from sid in wheezy right now, but this may not always be a solution in wheezy's lifetime |
| 00:17.04 | acu_ | somiaj: thanks, I have done this on a a laptop - and since then I updated hudred times and it seem that compiz does not work - but maybe I should see again how to activate it and keep it that way |
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| 00:18.16 | jhall_ | hi, is libqt4:4.8.2 the latest qt for debian? |
| 00:18.40 | jhall_ | I note that fedora has 4.8.4 and I am wondering if there is a memory leak in 4.8.2 |
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| 00:19.46 | somiaj | acu_: you just won't get compiz working easily in wheezy. There are just some issues with it and the packages (part of why it is not part of wheezy). For many the sid packages work just fine now. |
| 00:20.03 | somiaj | ,v libqt4 |
| 00:20.04 | judd | No package named 'libqt4' was found in i386. |
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| 00:20.50 | somiaj | ,v libqt4-core |
| 00:20.52 | judd | Package: libqt4-core on i386 -- lenny: 4.4.3-1+lenny1; lenny-security: 4.4.3-1+lenny1; squeeze: 4:4.6.3-4+squeeze1; sid: 4:4.8.2+dfsg-11; wheezy: 4:4.8.2+dfsg-11 |
| 00:21.11 | jhall_ | ,v libqtcore4 |
| 00:21.12 | judd | Package: libqtcore4 on i386 -- lenny: 4.4.3-1+lenny1; lenny-security: 4.4.3-1+lenny1; squeeze: 4:4.6.3-4+squeeze1; sid: 4:4.8.2+dfsg-11; wheezy: 4:4.8.2+dfsg-11 |
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| 00:21.49 | somiaj | jhall_: seems as yes 4.8.2 is the version in debian. Note it is a +dsfg-11 so it has some debian pactches/fixes on it. If it does have a menory leak I would check the bts, I would assume such a thing would be a bug and most likely is or will be fixed in the wheezy version (provided it is a known leak) |
| 00:23.16 | jhall_ | such a fix would go into sid, right? |
| 00:23.26 | jhall_ | I am running sid now on my system |
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| 00:25.50 | somiaj | jhall_: to me a memory leak bug is sever enough the stable version (that means version in wheezy) will be fixed since that version is frozen. As for the fix in sid, some matainers fix the debian sid package, others fix the upstream and the fix comes when sid gets the newer upstream. |
| 00:27.10 | wsky | jhall_: compiz has stopped being developed, looks abandoned, i'd give kde a try, however kde composite effects might work bad depending on your drivers and hardware |
| 00:27.16 | somiaj | jhall_: but this is all spectulation. Check the bts see if the bug has been reported. If not report it with info you have to see if others can reprdyuce the memory link. |
| 00:28.20 | jhall_ | the bts, what is its url? |
| 00:28.28 | jhall_ | bugtrack.debian.org? |
| 00:28.37 | somiaj | bugs.debian.org -- if you are running sid and don't know about the bts, you should know better. (: |
| 00:29.04 | wsky | err acu_ ^ |
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| 00:29.17 | roboman2444 | WARGLHBLB |
| 00:29.20 | wsky | jhall_: sorry, i was rure that you've asked about compiz here |
| 00:29.28 | roboman2444 | this static problem is annoying |
| 00:30.07 | wsky | sure |
| 00:30.14 | jhall_ | I always do google search |
| 00:30.18 | jhall_ | :( |
| 00:30.25 | jhall_ | thanks for the stupid ppl info anyways |
| 00:30.54 | jhall_ | however I have not asked about compiz |
| 00:31.16 | wsky | yeah, i've figured, acu_ did |
| 00:31.17 | jhall_ | so the wheazy packages can actually be more current than sid |
| 00:31.30 | jhall_ | depending on how the maintainer wants to handle bugs? |
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| 00:32.04 | wsky | jhall_: what stupid people info? |
| 00:32.06 | opr | hi all how can I get the gnome-session version to be 3.2.0 instead of 2.30.2 ? apt-get update and upgrade didn't do anything |
| 00:32.15 | claw__ | it cant i guess... everything that comes to wheezy has to go through sid before |
| 00:32.30 | wsky | opr: what is your debian release? |
| 00:32.33 | somiaj | jhall_: usually both the stable and sid get security patches at the same time. Though sometimes. But this isn't always the case |
| 00:32.56 | jhall_ | stupid ppl is me |
| 00:33.06 | jhall_ | who couldn't figure out that bts is bugs.debian.org |
| 00:33.13 | somiaj | jhall_: but yes the goal is to fix the bug in all places, and usually the sid package is fixed. Though to me a good matainer works a bit more with upstream to fix the bug there (unless it is a debian specific bug) |
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| 00:35.24 | opr | wsky 6.0.6 |
| 00:37.00 | claw__ | !tell opr about squeeze->wheezy |
| 00:38.25 | jhall_ | ok I'll work on this to ensure it is a qt4 memory leak before submitting a bug, I don't see it in the system now |
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| 00:38.54 | jhall_ | and I would assume a memory leak in QTByteArray would be discovered by now if it exists |
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| 00:39.18 | jhall_ | thanks for your help |
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| 00:41.50 | thinkerweb | I installed emacs24 from http://emacs.naquadah.org/ but it didn't replace my old emacs |
| 00:42.37 | somiaj | thinkerweb: how did you install emacs from there? |
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| 00:43.04 | claw__ | thinkerweb, what about 'update-alternatives --config editor ' ? |
| 00:43.15 | claw__ | is emacs24 listed there ? |
| 00:43.36 | somiaj | thinkerweb: note you kinda want to be careful when installing things outside the debian packaging system, but once you know what to do it is fine. |
| 00:44.02 | thinkerweb | somiaj, I added it to my sources and then did apt-get install |
| 00:44.45 | thinkerweb | claw__, I never knew about this program |
| 00:44.45 | somiaj | thinkerweb: did you make sure the sources were debian sources for your version (not ubuntu or another versino of debian)? |
| 00:44.58 | thinkerweb | somiaj, yeah, the one that says debian stable |
| 00:45.01 | stackofcats | I asked a few months ago but nobody had an answer. next try: Is there any way to log mount requests on an nfsv4 server without using kerberos? |
| 00:45.12 | somiaj | but yes if it was a debian package the binary is most likely called emacs24 and claw__ suggestion on setting the default alternative is useful. |
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| 00:46.40 | thinkerweb | actually, its not a problem, I can just use the new icon |
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| 00:52.00 | thinkerweb | claw__ yep, its there |
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| 00:52.22 | claw__ | thinkerweb, use it |
| 00:52.38 | pfred1 | I made an SVG icon for thunderbird |
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| 00:52.44 | claw__ | update-alternative defines your default applications e.g. your editor in that case |
| 00:52.53 | thinkerweb | claw__, hehe, cool, thanks |
| 00:53.06 | thinkerweb | claw__, I never heard of that command before, is it new? |
| 00:53.34 | claw__ | thinkerweb, i dont know... i know about 2 years or more for now i guess |
| 00:54.05 | somiaj | the alternative has been a core part of debian for a while, it is debian specific though |
| 00:54.36 | Samplezt | !l |
| 00:54.36 | dpkg | somebody said l was the english version of the greek letter lambda, as used by Alonzo Church in creating his lambda calculus. |
| 00:54.44 | thinkerweb | claw__, so I have emacs-snapshot above emacs23, |
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| 01:02.40 | thinkerweb | How do I make "emacs" point to emacs24 rather than emacs23 |
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| 01:06.11 | thinkerweb | I can't remove emacs, I did apt-get remove and it still loads |
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| 01:09.36 | thinkerweb | claw__, hmm, it just put a star beside it |
| 01:09.51 | thinkerweb | Maybe I'll just create an alias, if I can figure out how |
| 01:10.08 | Bronze | ok, I have educated myself a little about the alternatives system which I summarize as an organized system for controlling what executable gets used for when a specific named is invoked. |
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| 01:10.50 | claw__ | thinkerweb, cd && echo "alias emacs=emacs24'" >> .bashrc && bash |
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| 01:11.43 | roboman2444 | so... |
| 01:11.54 | roboman2444 | if anyone can compile a fully static openvpn for me... |
| 01:11.59 | roboman2444 | that would be greaat |
| 01:12.31 | Bronze | I'm trying to understand why each one links to a file in /etc/alternatives and then links right back down to original dir it came from. For example "vi" why noty just link /usr/bin/vi directly to /usr/bin/vim.basic instead of going up to /etc/alternatives/vim first? What is the advantage of adding the extra step? |
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| 01:12.53 | thinkerweb | claw__, I was gonna do: $alias emac="emacs-snapshot" |
| 01:13.15 | claw__ | yes thinkerweb add it to your .bashrc |
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| 01:14.36 | thinkerweb | claw__, you sure I have to add it to .bashrc? |
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| 01:15.22 | claw__ | .bashrc for you as user. if you want a system-wide alias add it to /etc/bash.bashrc |
| 01:15.57 | thinkerweb | claw__, but I just ran the code and it work, it won't persist after reboot? |
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| 01:16.37 | claw__ | thinkerweb, it even wont persist in another shell |
| 01:17.15 | thinkerweb | claw__, I see |
| 01:17.59 | claw__ | Bronze, there are applications like xdg-open and x-terminal-emulator that your prefered application for that type. e.g if you develop something and it should call the filemanager of choise of the user you use xdg-open instead of calling dolphin or natulius or something like that. That is what alternatives are for |
| 01:18.47 | thinkerweb | claw__, should I put at bottom or top of file, or who gives a hoot |
| 01:19.40 | claw__ | thinkerweb, i would add it at the bottom |
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| 01:21.51 | thinkerweb | claw__, thanks a lot for you help |
| 01:21.58 | claw__ | your welcome |
| 01:22.05 | thinkerweb | claw__, I have another one...how to make exported variables persist |
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| 01:22.20 | awktion | save to file and source |
| 01:22.26 | awktion | maybe use include |
| 01:22.36 | awktion | <.< |
| 01:23.39 | claw__ | thinkerweb, same thing add 'export foo=bar' to .bashrc or /etc/bash.basrc |
| 01:23.40 | Bronze | claw__: yes i know what alternatives is for. :-) I'm askling why it was implemented in such a way that there is an extra, uneeded link to interpret each time the command is invoked? |
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| 01:23.49 | Bronze | *asking |
| 01:24.17 | thinkerweb | claw__, thx a million |
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| 01:26.22 | claw__ | Bronze, i cant see your problem sorry. whereis x-terminal-emulator -> usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator -> /usr/bin/konsole |
| 01:26.58 | Bronze | Also: anyone who has write access to the debian wiki, please ask them to change the page htp://wiki.debian.org/DebianAlternatives so that tis one liner: Here is a long one-liner that will print out all manually configured Debian Alternatives symlinks. for i in $(ls /etc/alternatives); do LANG=C update-alternatives --display $i 2>/dev/null; done | awk '/manual.mode/{print $1}' uses this for the for loop: for i in /etc/alternatives/* ; do Also please |
| 01:26.58 | Bronze | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:27.57 | Bronze | claw__: in that example you just gave, that arrangement is betetr. the current system would have an internediate step that goes up to /etc/alternatives/<stuff> first. |
| 01:28.04 | Bronze | *better |
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| 01:33.16 | RoenieLap | what do i need to be able to mount -t smbfs ? |
| 01:33.30 | RoenieLap | (without installing the samba server) |
| 01:33.38 | dvs | it's called cifs now |
| 01:34.01 | foreigner | Hello. My day started all great until I switched on my computer and couldn't boot. It seems that programs called in the init scripts don't see shared libs in the /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ directory. |
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| 01:34.34 | RoenieLap | cifs-utils? |
| 01:34.45 | dvs | sounds good |
| 01:35.12 | foreigner | (Suspecting that it could perhaps maybe only be libselinux.so.1, I linked that one into /lib64, and then errors related to that file made room for other errors) |
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| 01:35.50 | foreigner | I'm on Debian Testing |
| 01:35.53 | Bronze | foreigner: is the drive going bad? (assumes old-style desktop or laptop) |
| 01:36.44 | foreigner | More details: My battery died while I was downloading something earlier, so there might be an FS error |
| 01:36.58 | foreigner | (but I forced fsck and it was clean apparently) |
| 01:37.11 | thinkerweb | claw__, the export one isn't working. I have to export LD_PRELOAD, so I added it to the .bashrc file and it didn't work |
| 01:37.55 | foreigner | And I upgraded today, which also upgraded libc and libc6 |
| 01:38.38 | claw__ | thinkerweb, have you started a new bash ? |
| 01:38.47 | claw__ | bash && echo $LD_PRELOAD |
| 01:38.48 | thinkerweb | classix, yeah |
| 01:39.05 | foreigner | And during the configuration of libc6 (after libc-bin) I suddenly got an error that libz.so.something couldn't be found |
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| 01:39.28 | Bronze | foreigner: also, a system crash during that could have make problems with thosefile system links. |
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| 01:40.07 | thinkerweb | claw__, yeah |
| 01:40.17 | claw__ | works ? |
| 01:40.25 | RoenieLap | smbclient is the correct package, dvs, not cifs-utilr |
| 01:40.29 | RoenieLap | utils* |
| 01:40.39 | thinkerweb | claw__, no |
| 01:42.01 | thinkerweb | and streamer is giving me a funny error now, which is probably unrelated |
| 01:42.16 | foreigner | My drive is a pretty new SanDisk SSD, so I hope it isn't broken ;p |
| 01:42.41 | foreigner | Unfortunately this live CD seems to lack smart utils |
| 01:42.57 | dvs | RoenieLap: you need cifs-utils to mount the file system. |
| 01:43.08 | claw__ | thinkerweb, what exactly have you added to .bashrc ? |
| 01:44.03 | thinkerweb | claw__ export ld_preload="/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so" |
| 01:44.13 | claw__ | tbj |
| 01:44.24 | claw__ | thinkerweb, this is case sensitve |
| 01:44.30 | claw__ | echo $ld_preload |
| 01:44.54 | thinkerweb | claw__, oooh ooh, ok let me try again, thanks |
| 01:44.55 | opr | hi all, my VGA monitor won't go above 640x480. Ive tried editing the xorg.conf file but no cigar, my HDMI monitor is working perfectly. |
| 01:45.21 | claw__ | thinkerweb, it should be LD_PRELOAD not ld_preload :) |
| 01:45.33 | thinkerweb | claw__, now its working |
| 01:46.10 | foreigner | So... How many files do you guys have in your lib64 (if you've got multiarch)? |
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| 01:46.32 | Bronze | foreigner: point of curiosity: would snartools do anything with an SSD? in order for them to work the manufacturer would have had to add specialized circuits to do the same things that set of diagnostic circuits do on a hard drive. |
| 01:46.45 | foreigner | Yeah, they work on mine |
| 01:47.02 | Bronze | now thats interesting. |
| 01:47.17 | thinkerweb | streamer is giving me a new error, the only change is I installed emacs24 from an external repo |
| 01:47.46 | foreigner | They have variables that harddrives don't have and harddrives have variables that SSDs don't have |
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| 01:49.07 | foreigner | You can e.g. see how much data you've written or read during the lifetime of your disk |
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| 01:50.03 | thinkerweb | I like to use "streamer" with my webcam, but to get it to work I have to export from /usr/lib/libv4l either v4l2convert.so OR v4l2compat.so, dunno, I just blindly export one or the other, should I export both, or is one preferred or other? |
| 01:50.54 | zykotick9 | thinkerweb: trying to downplay the change of installing stuff from external repos is a mistake. debian releases are put together as a whole, and you're now messing with the nice job the developers did... best of luck. |
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| 01:52.36 | foreigner | So, if anybody knows how I could tell my init scripts to have my /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu directory in the library path (which appears to be the normal case per http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html#s-fhs ), please tell me~ |
| 01:52.52 | thinkerweb | zykotick9, well, I use emacs for html, and now we have html5, but my emacs is configured for html4, so I am hoping this new version will have html5 support |
| 01:53.35 | thinkerweb | zykotick9, but it doesn't, so it wasn't worth it |
| 01:53.46 | zykotick9 | !tell thinkerweb about sns |
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| 01:54.47 | thinkerweb | zykotick9, do you know about any things html5 for emacs? |
| 01:55.02 | zykotick9 | thinkerweb: nope, i'm a vi guy ;) good luck. |
| 01:57.15 | foreigner | (My ld.so.confs are looking okay) |
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| 01:58.02 | foreigner | And I reverted my libc upgrade |
| 01:58.08 | foreigner | (manually for now) |
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| 02:07.50 | thinkerweb | anyone know how to switch modes in emacs? |
| 02:08.28 | thinkerweb | got it m-x mode-name |
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| 02:09.10 | zykotick9 | thinkerweb: might be a good question for #emacs (if you don't get an answer here) |
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| 02:21.37 | dorky | debian install - cyptsetup - skipping time-comsuming erase step. Is this possible and how? |
| 02:21.58 | thinkerweb | anybody board, I wanna buy a tv card, which one is compatible here: factorydirect.ca? |
| 02:24.34 | pfred1 | thinkerweb http://linuxtv.org/ |
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| 02:26.17 | thinkerweb | pfred1, are you familiar with that website, is there a hcl? |
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| 02:28.15 | pfred1 | thinkerweb http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardware_Device_Information |
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| 02:29.28 | thinkerweb | pfred1, thx |
| 02:29.34 | pfred1 | np |
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| 02:41.51 | foreigner | Oh god... I could have skipped this whole ordeal if I'd just run ldconfig manually after libc got upgraded and failed somehow |
| 02:42.26 | foreigner | I was kind of in 'damn my ssd is broken; testdisk time' mode, I guess |
| 02:42.40 | foreigner | Thanks for the help anyway |
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| 02:43.58 | RoenieLap | in what file/script does debian have a line that launches the window manager that you chose to select with update-alterntatives, when X starts? i am used to the WM being launched by exec <wmname> in ~/.xinitrc |
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| 02:47.10 | Bronze | RoenieLap: I went to /etc/alternatives and did ls -l x* and i find that x-window-manager was linked to /usr/bin/metacity, which is my WM. |
| 02:47.11 | Tramp | RoenieLap: recursive grep in /etc/X11 suggests Xsession.d/50x11-common_determine-startup |
| 02:47.41 | Bronze | cd .. |
| 02:47.42 | Bronze | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:47.45 | RoenieLap | ty |
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| 02:51.10 | RoenieLap | would 50x11-common-determine-startup be something that's in X11 per default ( in other words, X tries to launch /usr/bin/x-window-manager by default) or is that added by a debian package maintainer? |
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| 03:15.55 | mroe | how do I figure out how to minimize the time it takes to for ssh to complete a connection? |
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| 03:19.06 | fnmueller | use keys instead of interactive password authentification |
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| 04:13.29 | dorky | debian install - cyptsetup - skipping time-comsuming erase step. I ask because a key error forced me to abort the first install attempt. So it's already correctly formated and partitioned with LVM. |
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| 04:41.39 | thieh | Question: what would be a good mountable way to share files if it involves unicode file names? |
| 04:42.17 | Towzzer | I believe both nfs and cifs support unicode |
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| 04:56.44 | md_5 | attempting to use sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p udp --dport 2233 -j DNAT --to 10.0.3.1:22 to get ssh on an LXC instance, but I cant ssh to port 2233 |
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| 04:58.05 | Towzzer | isn't ssh tcp |
| 04:58.07 | Towzzer | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:59.50 | md_5 | no, but I've tried TCP port 80, also doesnt port |
| 04:59.51 | md_5 | work |
| 04:59.55 | md_5 | (for apache) |
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| 05:00.36 | Towzzer | ssh is tcp |
| 05:01.10 | md_5 | its not |
| 05:01.22 | md_5 | oh it is |
| 05:01.23 | md_5 | shrug |
| 05:01.25 | md_5 | still doesnt work |
| 05:01.52 | Towzzer | is this ip tables rule on the machine running ssh? |
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| 05:02.27 | md_5 | yes |
| 05:03.10 | Towzzer | on the machine itself can you connect to ssh |
| 05:03.14 | Towzzer | telnet localhost 22 |
| 05:03.16 | Towzzer | if you would sir |
| 05:03.19 | md_5 | yes |
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| 05:04.17 | Towzzer | and 10.0.3.1 is the ip of that server? |
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| 05:04.44 | Towzzer | can you also specify an interface on that iptables rules with -i |
| 05:05.00 | Towzzer | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:05.01 | Towzzer | for example |
| 05:05.23 | md_5 | is -i lo fine? |
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| 05:05.38 | Towzzer | no, because that means it will only listen on the loopback interface |
| 05:05.49 | Towzzer | you need to specify the network adapter ssh is listening on |
| 05:05.50 | Towzzer | in that rule sir |
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| 05:07.26 | md_5 | ssh 10.0.3.1 works fine, but sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 2244 -j DNAT --to 10.0.3.1:22 + ssh 127.0.0.1 -p 2244 doesnt regardless of the -i value |
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| 05:08.21 | Towzzer | are there any other rules maybe? |
| 05:08.25 | md_5 | nope, flushed |
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| 05:09.32 | Towzzer | iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 2244 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 222 |
| 05:09.33 | Towzzer | try that sucker |
| 05:09.55 | Towzzer | 22 at the end there sorry |
| 05:10.19 | md_5 | ➜ ~ ssh localhost -p 2244 |
| 05:10.19 | md_5 | ssh: connect to host localhost port 2244: Connection refused |
| 05:10.23 | md_5 | yeah, I used 22 |
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| 05:16.24 | Towzzer | I don't know sir |
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| 05:20.30 | Red_M | if any of you like TF2 just thought you might like to see this |
| 05:20.43 | Red_M | http://steamcommunity.com/id/Red_M/inventory#440_2_1480081030 - because debian all the way |
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| 05:26.03 | dgriffi | does anyone here use mikmod? I can't figure out why it refuses to see alsa |
| 05:27.32 | dgriffi | or even OSS when oss-compat is installed |
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| 05:32.56 | dgriffi | geez.. why can't the mikmod people get off oss once and for all |
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| 05:39.53 | md_5 | Towzzer 'iptables -t nat -F' --flush doesnt flush the nat table by default |
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| 05:44.10 | SCONE_ | apt bread box |
| 05:44.15 | SCONE_ | ./msg |
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| 05:46.18 | cers | 这是啥？ |
| 05:47.05 | SCONE_ | ElectricELf you there |
| 05:53.06 | shawnbon_sleep | anyone use debian for a NAS? |
| 05:53.54 | dgriffi | a plain old NFS server, yes |
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| 05:59.52 | RoenieLap | kudos, dgriffi |
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| 06:08.05 | zykotick9 | hays: wheezy won't be covered by the security team until after it's release. (testing is the slowest to get security updates) |
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| 06:34.12 | anup07 | what is the use of Debian |
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| 06:50.28 | Gavilan2 | Hi! where can I get a debian iso to run on a VM on an intel 64 bits? I'll only be using Firefox, so I don't need a version with lots of stuff... I want something really secure, stable, with a decent ui.... |
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| 06:53.56 | RIVE | Ok ya me comentaste que en Colima ya esta de la chingada, no creo que a lo niveles de por aca. |
| 06:53.58 | anup07 | is it a operating system or anup07 anup07 |
| 06:54.30 | RIVE | Sorry, that was sopussed to be in another channel. |
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| 06:57.25 | RoenieLap | Gavilan2: stable, secure etc suggests you want the "stable" version rather than "testing", but wheezy is already feature locked and not far from being declared the current stable version |
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| 06:58.57 | RoenieLap | it's been frozen (no new features, just fixes) for quit a while - best bet is to go with the wheezy net install |
| 06:59.10 | RoenieLap | http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst |
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| 06:59.57 | RoenieLap | small cd.... pick the right one between amd64 (standard desktop CPU, can also be intel), or IA64 (server cpu) |
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| 07:00.16 | RoenieLap | netinstall allows you to do a base install that is quite minimal and then install X and firefox |
| 07:00.24 | Gavilan2 | do they still make IA64? O_o |
| 07:00.53 | RoenieLap | but it will take more work, alternatively you can select the desktop environment as well as base packages during install |
| 07:01.05 | RoenieLap | and that will give you a gnome desktop out of the box |
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| 07:01.50 | Gavilan2 | what's the best desktop? Last time I used gnome it was a disaster (though that was 10 years ago xD) |
| 07:02.24 | RoenieLap | that's a question i can't answer |
| 07:03.02 | RoenieLap | if you are planning to use virtualbox i suggest you don't |
| 07:03.09 | Gavilan2 | don't what? |
| 07:03.16 | RoenieLap | use virtualbox |
| 07:03.22 | Gavilan2 | why not? |
| 07:03.26 | Gavilan2 | I'll be using VMWare anyway.... |
| 07:03.43 | RoenieLap | i did that a few days ago and i had so many problems getting debian to work the way it needed to |
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| 07:03.51 | RoenieLap | just because it was vbox causing all the problems |
| 07:04.00 | Gavilan2 | what about VMWare? |
| 07:04.05 | RoenieLap | better probably |
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| 07:04.08 | Gavilan2 | k |
| 07:04.20 | RoenieLap | idk... i expect it to be |
| 07:04.25 | Gavilan2 | well, the net installer is downloading... |
| 07:04.30 | Gavilan2 | at 34 kb/s O_o |
| 07:04.58 | RoenieLap | upgrade your internet connection from smoke signals to dialup |
| 07:05.15 | Gavilan2 | RoenieLap: I have 12 Mbps... |
| 07:05.21 | RoenieLap | or use pidgeons with memory sticks |
| 07:05.21 | Gavilan2 | I've no idea why it's going so slow.... |
| 07:05.35 | RoenieLap | it was fast for me |
| 07:05.54 | RoenieLap | has 60Mbps... |
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| 07:06.29 | RoenieLap | but you should be maxing out your line from debian.org... |
| 07:06.41 | RoenieLap | might have a routing problem |
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| 07:07.24 | Gavilan2 | It's really strange |
| 07:07.34 | Gavilan2 | I started 7 new downloads of the same file |
| 07:07.44 | Gavilan2 | and they were going each from 30 to 70 kbps at the same time |
| 07:07.59 | Gavilan2 | I cancel all of them, and the original file still goes from 30 to 50 kbps only... |
| 07:10.03 | RoenieLap | i am getting 800KB/s with the same file |
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| 07:10.15 | RoenieLap | right now |
| 07:10.34 | Gavilan2 | :/ |
| 07:10.36 | Gavilan2 | you are lucky |
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| 07:16.16 | RoenieLap | Gavilan2: think again about doing a netinstall right now... |
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| 07:19.42 | Gavilan2 | anyway |
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| 07:19.44 | Gavilan2 | iso is done |
| 07:19.50 | Gavilan2 | what type of install should I do? |
| 07:19.54 | Gavilan2 | expert, not expert? |
| 07:19.56 | Gavilan2 | gui, command line? |
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| 07:20.08 | RoenieLap | expert imo |
| 07:20.15 | RoenieLap | non gui |
| 07:20.21 | Gavilan2 | why non gui? |
| 07:20.26 | RoenieLap | default |
| 07:20.46 | RoenieLap | you still get menus, just not graphical |
| 07:21.05 | Gavilan2 | is there anything bad with the gui one? |
| 07:21.09 | Gavilan2 | I like gui stuff.... |
| 07:21.19 | RoenieLap | then get linux mint |
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| 07:21.25 | Gavilan2 | mint? |
| 07:22.29 | ksx4system | is there any BBS software in Debian's repositories? |
| 07:23.10 | ksx4system | preferably supporting both telnet sessions and modem connection |
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| 07:25.17 | RoenieLap | apt-cache search BBS |
| 07:25.19 | zykotick9 | ksx4system: client or server? "apt-cache search bbs" seems to list a couple clients. |
| 07:25.37 | RoenieLap | apt-cache search bbs --full | grep telnet |
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| 07:27.22 | tigranes | Hi! I'm having hard time finding an answer to this, but it sounds really basic; help would be appreciated: I'm trying to use netinst USB stick to install wheezy on a netbook via wifi. The wifi card is Broadcom BCM4312, which requires firmware. However, I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get the firmware over. I downloaded firmware-b43-lpphy-installer package to another USB stick, but can't install it because there |
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| 07:29.04 | ksx4system | zykotick9: server of course |
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| 07:29.54 | zykotick9 | ksx4system: looks like you'll need to go out of repo then. good luck. |
| 07:29.58 | ksx4system | RoenieLap: there's nothing in here :( only two clients and without this grep line |
| 07:30.16 | ksx4system | zykotick9: well, I'm trying to compile some piece of software from 1998 :D |
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| 07:31.06 | RoenieLap | erm, is there a .xinitrc in the user's home dir as standard in debian? my X won't start and i think it's that |
| 07:31.32 | Gavilan2 | 2.6 o 2.6.32-5? |
| 07:31.33 | tigranes | Eh, nevermind, easier to break out my 50ft ethernet cable |
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| 07:31.56 | RoenieLap | it was that.;p |
| 07:32.03 | ksx4system | one more issue... I've got this error on 5.0/lenny: http://paste.debian.net/plain/237312 |
| 07:32.07 | ksx4system | how can I fix it? |
| 07:32.20 | ksx4system | apt tells me to apt-get update but of course I did that |
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| 07:32.39 | ksx4system | and no, I can't upgrade to 6.0/7.0 'cause this box isn't capable of newer Debian version |
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| 07:32.44 | zykotick9 | tigranes: i've never had to mess with firmware during install, but do you know if the unofficial-firmware image of netinstall supports your card or not? might be easier to download a new iso then insert the file you have??? |
| 07:33.29 | solar_sea | Hi. How can I add an additional package during installation ? (in the live system, so I can further tweak my /target before finishing the installation) |
| 07:33.30 | zykotick9 | tigranes: if ethernet is an option - i'd go with that ;) |
| 07:34.34 | tigranes | zykotick9: I was looking into that, but I believe it doesn't. So yes, ethernet proved easier. Thanks :) |
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| 07:36.09 | RoenieLap | anyone else using i3? i use myGtkMenu as a custom app launcher menu which i launch with a hotkey defined in the i3 config, very handy |
| 07:36.10 | asciiker | hello |
| 07:36.29 | asciiker | is DamnSmallLinux dead ? |
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| 08:05.15 | KsM | whose* |
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| 08:24.59 | edakiri | In aptitude, is there a way to mark things for installation with a regex but not install them? This is so that I can then go through the list and select packages to not install. |
| 08:25.47 | edakiri | tried, but did not work: aptitude install expression: |
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| 08:57.39 | damo22 | how do i fix my hostname after changing the ethernet hardware in a machine? i deleted /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net* |
| 08:58.12 | oskie | damo22: you can always use the 'hostname' command |
| 08:58.28 | oskie | damo22: (and manually modifying files like /etc/hostname and hosts) |
| 08:58.50 | damo22 | it doesnt seem to work because i have set up fixed host in my router and it assigns the hostname or something via dhcp? |
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| 09:00.01 | oskie | damo22: hmm I've seen that behavior... I think the dhcp client needs to be modified somehow |
| 09:00.05 | damo22 | so i fixed the mac address in the router and it still comes up with HOST94..... |
| 09:01.03 | damo22 | maybe the router needs a reboot? |
| 09:01.12 | damo22 | then reboot my machine? |
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| 09:01.38 | oskie | damo22: do you have /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf ? maybe there's some setting |
| 09:01.45 | ectospasm | damo22: you may need to put "send host-name = gethostname();" in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf |
| 09:02.06 | ectospasm | or, replace "gethostname()" with your desired hostname. |
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| 09:02.20 | damo22 | ty |
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| 09:20.22 | GeRMaN0000 | please open this link and register to win money freee http://visitors2cash.com/ref.php?refId=13702 |
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| 09:30.28 | thomaschaaf | Hello I am trying to write a webinterface over which you should configure the wireless adapter. What is the most stable command line tool to create wireless connections? I have found: wpa_supplicant (wpa_cli), network-manager (nmcli) and wicd. Which one is the most stable for connecting to wireless networks and keeping that connection alive? It would be very helpful if it could do all dhcp without me doing anything. |
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| 09:47.53 | gry | er |
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| 09:50.43 | folivora | morning |
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| 09:51.13 | folivora | How I can allow user to run mount.crypt command without sudo ? |
| 09:52.09 | folivora | I want that he will be promptet hes luks partition password on gnome login |
| 09:52.33 | well_laid_lawn | edit the sudoers file to allow it |
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| 09:55.03 | folivora | well_laid_lawn: I have this in sudoers: user ALL=NOPASSWD: /sbin/mount.crypt, /sbin/umount.crypt, /usr/local/bin/mount_luks |
| 09:55.12 | folivora | it is still asaking password |
| 09:55.52 | well_laid_lawn | logged out yet? |
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| 10:00.04 | folivora | well_laid_lawn: yep |
| 10:00.11 | folivora | kinda weird |
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| 10:00.48 | folivora | anayway, when I have added it to users auto start apps it should be promptet or not ? |
| 10:00.55 | folivora | *promptet |
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| 10:06.37 | frenchi | hello, I accidentally removed the /var/lib/dpkg/available* files, how can I regenerate it? |
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| 10:13.29 | well_laid_lawn | folivora: I have most luck when editing with visudo when I add my new lines to the bottom of the page |
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| 10:15.50 | folivora | well_laid_lawn: it works fine now, i mean the nopasswd option. Still got problem that when it is running to mount_luks script on login it wont prompt password |
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| 10:17.13 | well_laid_lawn | it works fine but doesn't? maybe add a sleep to the script. I dunno |
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| 10:23.37 | alegen | hello. i`m trying to make the microphone work with skype in debian wheezy but i don`t know what else to do |
| 10:23.46 | alegen | i`ve tried everything i`ve found online |
| 10:24.11 | alegen | and still nothing. running "arecord | aplay" does nothing either |
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| 10:25.50 | alegen | in alsamixer in the command line, i`ve put the capture device on max |
| 10:26.16 | well_laid_lawn | alegen: are you using pulseaudio? |
| 10:27.41 | alegen | well_laid_lawn: i have pulseaudio and in got pavuadio too to check it |
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| 10:27.55 | alegen | microphone was muted in the beginning and i unmuted it but still nothgin |
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| 10:28.17 | well_laid_lawn | alegen: tried the .asoundrc hack? |
| 10:28.29 | alegen | what is that? |
| 10:28.45 | well_laid_lawn | alegen: http://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/no-sound-while-making-call-solved/td-p/760608 |
| 10:29.00 | alegen | going to read it now thanks |
| 10:29.05 | well_laid_lawn | cheers |
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| 11:17.28 | hyppias | is there a program/tool to check the security of my server? |
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| 11:29.04 | txomon|home | Hi, I cant edit the page wiki.debian.org/brcm80211 but I would like to ask to introduce info about the importance of configuring on hand the regulatory domain with iw reg set <EU|US|JP> |
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| 11:32.47 | jelly-home | txomon|home: even after logging in? |
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| 11:38.40 | dutchfish | hyppias, doing forensics on a server without preparation or expertise can be hard to impossible, normally you have installed and hardened your system in front. But explaining why you think there might be a breach gives us a clue how to tackle it. |
| 11:39.46 | txomon|home | jelly-home, humm ok xD I didn't thought about that... editing |
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| 11:41.30 | txomon|home | Ok, I added a tip in known issues section |
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| 11:45.33 | lord_rob | Hi ! I'm getting a message about Google Cloud Print saying that identification information have expired. Any idea why I get this message ? |
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| 11:50.31 | txomon|home | lord_rob, I suppose you might look into the configuration options |
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| 11:51.29 | lord_rob | someone in #debian-kde told me it was chromium related |
| 11:51.55 | lord_rob | (because this popup was crashed so no other way than ctrl alt esc) |
| 11:52.08 | txomon|home | lord_rob, that was obvious, I was refering to chromium configuration! |
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| 12:23.31 | aarfer | how come openssh instructions say to rename id_rsa to authorized_keys? what is the point of adding your own priv key to the authorized ones? |
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| 12:26.48 | diabel | Hello |
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| 12:27.48 | Towzzer | aarfer, authorized_keys is where you add public keys to, id_rsa is your private key |
| 12:27.55 | Towzzer | can you show me in the instructions where it says that? |
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| 12:30.35 | aarfer | i got it mixed up... i guess it's the ...pub file it says to rename to authorized_keys. |
| 12:30.57 | aarfer | why then should i add my pub key to the auth keys file? |
| 12:31.12 | aarfer | so i can ssh into myself? why would i do that? |
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| 12:34.26 | Towzzer | you usually generate one key on your machine then add the public key to other machines |
| 12:34.27 | dawud | aarfer: it makes sense only if you are going to use the same pair from other host |
| 12:34.46 | jelly-home | aarfer: there's no need to. authorized_keys would be used on the machines you ssh _to_ |
| 12:34.55 | Towzzer | hey jelly |
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| 12:36.05 | jelly-home | aarfer: to make things a bit simpler, ssh-copy-id does that for you |
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| 12:48.56 | phix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0P-TTnYqws&list=PLFD46FAE8AEE1494C |
| 12:49.05 | phix | THUNDER! |
| 12:49.08 | phix | HORSE! |
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| 12:54.13 | aarfer | ok, got it. thanks jelly-home and dawud |
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| 12:57.54 | jelly-home | points phix to #debian-offtopic |
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| 13:19.29 | mycae | Hi, I'm trying to cross-compile a program for x86_64-w64-mingw32 that needs iconv, but I can't find it - its supposed to be part of libc? If not, do i just have to manually build it from gnu.org sources? |
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| 13:24.08 | JNSamuel | http://www.jokestube.org/?id=15 |
| 13:24.12 | JNSamuel | mentos + cola |
| 13:24.59 | jelly-home | mycae: GNU libc comes with its own libiconv |
| 13:25.21 | mycae | I know, but there is no iconv.h in /usr/x86_64-w64-mingw32/ |
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| 13:25.42 | mycae | no *iconv* of any kind, in fact |
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| 13:26.02 | mycae | Its suggested at filezilla's cross-compile notes, to manually compile it. |
| 13:26.22 | guang | when i type win-c,i want to it effects like typing ctrl-c.how can i do? |
| 13:26.31 | TheGrey | o/ I have a M-audio 2496. In pavucontrol with ICE 1712 selected, I see the input volume jump up and down. But I here no audio..What can I do? |
| 13:26.31 | TheGrey | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:27.11 | jelly-home | mycae: oh... probably have to do that then, first cross-compile iconv... |
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| 13:58.26 | censef | finally! An updated Debian squeeze! That's what I've been waiting for all the time. |
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| 14:06.16 | technic | Hey, I made a aptitude upgrade and a dist-upgrade. My skype is away. How can I find the reason for this? |
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| 14:06.57 | ikonia | technic: away ? |
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| 14:07.59 | technic | ikonia: bash: skype: command not found |
| 14:08.22 | technic | ikonia: I'm using Debian Testing amd65 |
| 14:08.28 | technic | amd64 |
| 14:08.43 | ikonia | technic: is the skype package still installed ? |
| 14:09.01 | dvs | Debian 6.0.6? That's old! ;-P |
| 14:09.07 | technic | ikonia: How can I check it? |
| 14:09.22 | ikonia | look in the installed package list |
| 14:09.34 | ikonia | either via the package manager you are using or dpkg |
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| 14:11.40 | technic | ikonia: one moment |
| 14:11.46 | ikonia | no rush |
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| 14:12.47 | technic | ikonia: Found something |
| 14:12.48 | technic | dpkg -l | grep skype |
| 14:12.48 | dpkg | No packages found matching | grep skype |
| 14:12.49 | technic | rc skype 2.2.0.35-1 amd64 Skype |
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| 14:13.18 | ikonia | dpkg: ok, so I'd suggest re-installing skype |
| 14:13.19 | dpkg | ikonia: bugger all, i dunno |
| 14:13.22 | ikonia | oops |
| 14:13.24 | ikonia | technic: 6 |
| 14:13.27 | ikonia | ^ |
| 14:13.46 | technic | ikonia: Sorry, what do you mean? |
| 14:13.59 | ikonia | technic: re-install the skype package |
| 14:14.06 | ikonia | technic: I'd also sugget a reboot first too |
| 14:14.21 | ikonia | to bring your updates into action/alignment |
| 14:14.21 | technic | ikonia: Why reboot? |
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| 14:14.39 | ikonia | technic: because you've just dne an update, so I'm guessing things like your kernel will have been updated |
| 14:15.09 | technic | ikonia: aiai, see you |
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| 14:26.24 | KittyPaws | X is being soo stupid |
| 14:26.25 | KittyPaws | :/ |
| 14:26.30 | KittyPaws | 1min while I get a log |
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| 14:27.24 | aarfer | flush the toilet dude. don't save those. |
| 14:27.31 | abrotman | ... |
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| 14:29.32 | KittyPaws | http://pastebin.com/vRY8VCvw |
| 14:29.34 | KittyPaws | abrotman: ... |
| 14:29.59 | KittyPaws | abrotman: me no dude |
| 14:30.02 | KittyPaws | er... |
| 14:30.03 | abrotman | KittyPaws: how many times have you been banned now? |
| 14:30.05 | KittyPaws | aarfer: me no dude |
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| 14:30.15 | KittyPaws | abrotman: huh? |
| 14:30.24 | KittyPaws | I just came here for the general help! O.o |
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| 14:40.45 | newbeginner | can you read this |
| 14:40.51 | censef | no |
| 14:40.53 | newbeginner | ok |
| 14:41.24 | newbeginner | i typed adduser myusername sudo and it successfully added it |
| 14:41.39 | newbeginner | but when i tried to sudo apt-get on that account it said i'm not in the sudoers file |
| 14:41.49 | abrotman | newbeginner: man sudoers, you have to configure things |
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| 14:42.06 | newbeginner | omg i thought adduser did that |
| 14:42.26 | abrotman | adduser adds you to that group .. not configure unrelated config files |
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| 14:46.56 | aarfer | how come i can't read what newbeginner is saying? |
| 14:47.08 | *** topic/#debian by abrotman -> squeeze (6.0.7) released; /msg dpkg squeeze | jessie will be wheezy+1 | lenny EOL 2012-02-06; /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze | wheezy frozen; /msg dpkg freeze | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg pastebin | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | wheezy/sid: #debian-next on irc.oftc.net | FAQ: http://deb.li/IRCFAQ | channel logs: http://deb.li/yQXC |
| 14:47.42 | abrotman | aarfer: he's not saying anything |
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| 14:47.53 | ompaul | abrotman: it's not even on debian.org ;- |
| 14:47.54 | ompaul | ) |
| 14:47.59 | aarfer | oh. thanks abrotman |
| 14:48.06 | nkuttler | ah, that's why there were so many upgrades today. was wondering.. |
| 14:48.11 | newbeginner | yeah it's just a small pojrect, i think i'll just use the root terminal because i don't have much tiem :( |
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| 14:48.19 | newbeginner | it's on a virtual machine |
| 14:48.33 | abrotman | ompaul: i got the email! |
| 14:48.45 | ompaul | abrotman: I don't read mine ;-) |
| 14:48.53 | ompaul | hides |
| 14:49.01 | abrotman | neither do i |
| 14:49.08 | aarfer | have any of you been able to use a griffin powermate in debian or linux in general? |
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| 14:49.36 | ompaul | aarfer: no idea what a griffin powermate is so I'd have to guess no |
| 14:49.40 | KittyPaws | Pls can someone just help me? :( |
| 14:49.48 | KittyPaws | ##Linux are declining support for me. |
| 14:50.15 | aarfer | ompaul, it's a lil physical dial you put on your desk - it's like a big knob like you'd see on the amp for your surround sound system. |
| 14:50.48 | aarfer | you can control things like volume with it. or go frame by frame in a video editor or whatever you set it to do. |
| 14:50.55 | yeats | KittyPaws: nothing in your log looks like an error |
| 14:51.03 | ompaul | aarfer: I looked - my system has it's own physical button etc |
| 14:51.27 | censef | KittyPaws: are you using Debian? |
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| 14:52.02 | abrotman | KittyPaws: that's because you keep getting banned everywhere you go |
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| 14:52.06 | censef | sorry, mislooked, of course you are |
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| 14:53.01 | tremon | aarfer, to put it simply: either it registers itself as a normal usb hid, in which case you should be able to use it out of the box, or it doesn't, in which case you need to ask the manufacturer for a linux driver |
| 14:53.16 | KittyPaws | abrotman: ... |
| 14:53.25 | abrotman | KittyPaws: ... |
| 14:53.33 | KittyPaws | Apparently I'm combative but they wont tell me what it means. |
| 14:53.49 | abrotman | Yeah, keep playing that game |
| 14:54.01 | aarfer | ompaul, does it have a knob? this thing is pretty nifty. http://store.griffintechnology.com/powermate-1 |
| 14:54.31 | aarfer | hmmm, tremon how can i tell if it registers as you've said? |
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| 14:56.12 | ompaul | arafel: this is all part of an external amplifier etc so no, now if it is plugged in turn and you have some music playing turn it up and down |
| 14:56.38 | tremon | aarfer: lsusb -v, look for bInterface* -- although I seem to remember someone telling me that unkown devices default to usb hid (?) |
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| 14:57.11 | KittyPaws | How do I use xserver-xorg-video-intel as my X driver? :/ |
| 14:57.23 | KittyPaws | I installed it but X is trying to use vesa. |
| 14:59.32 | tremon | KittyPaws: it isn't, I see intel(0): Chipset: "945GME" followed by Unloading vesa |
| 14:59.56 | KittyPaws | tremon: oh that was just according to ##linux okays. |
| 15:00.05 | KittyPaws | tremon: It's a problem to me that X just wont start. :( |
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| 15:03.06 | tremon | KittyPaws: your log shows X running fine, so either you've provided the wrong log or you're looking at the wrong screen (output lvds1 using initial mode 1024x768, output vga1 disconnected)) |
| 15:03.21 | KittyPaws | tremon: I only have one screen! |
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| 15:03.48 | KittyPaws | Logs show X running fine as root. |
| 15:04.20 | tremon | KittyPaws: so maybe you can be more specific in your problem description than "X is being stupid"? |
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| 15:04.59 | KittyPaws | tremon: okies |
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| 15:06.27 | tremon | I see you're also running with selinux enabled, I'd turn it off while you're debugging this |
| 15:06.45 | KittyPaws | tremon: Yeah I can't run X as any other user even a freshly added user. |
| 15:06.52 | tremon | that's normal |
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| 15:06.53 | KittyPaws | tremon: How do I turn it off? :o |
| 15:07.17 | tremon | remove security=selinux from your kernel command line |
| 15:07.21 | abrotman | how did you turn it on? |
| 15:07.29 | tremon | fair question :) |
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| 15:07.52 | KittyPaws | tremon: er... |
| 15:07.55 | abrotman | instead of spoon feeding .. |
| 15:08.17 | KittyPaws | abrotman: I didn't? |
| 15:08.41 | tremon | well someone did... |
| 15:08.57 | ikonia | probably the same person who set up the custom /etc/issue |
| 15:09.00 | abrotman | right, common problem .. no one did it, just magic |
| 15:09.17 | KittyPaws | ikonia: I am |
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| 15:09.57 | tremon | usually remote ownage doesn't include your attacker /enabling/ a security feature |
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| 15:11.48 | KittyPaws | okies |
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| 15:12.06 | KittyPaws | tremon: Disabled |
| 15:12.21 | tremon | freezes in his chair |
| 15:12.34 | KittyPaws | ... |
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| 15:13.45 | KittyPaws | abrotman: You do know you didn't ban my home line, rite? You banned a swedish guys stuff. :/ |
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| 15:14.09 | abrotman | KittyPaws: are you suggesting you're evading a ban and I should ban your home line? |
| 15:14.25 | KittyPaws | ... |
| 15:14.32 | abrotman | i can make dots too ... |
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| 15:14.40 | KittyPaws | I'm suggesting that... you shouldn't have banned someone elses stuff. |
| 15:14.54 | abrotman | you're a problem, repeatedly |
| 15:15.06 | KittyPaws | lol |
| 15:15.26 | abrotman | i'd suggest you work on getting your problem fixed |
| 15:15.45 | alegen | is there a problem currently with microphone input in wheezy? i cannot get mine to work at all |
| 15:16.01 | abrotman | alegen: mine works just fine |
| 15:16.04 | KittyPaws | alegen: no :o |
| 15:16.13 | KittyPaws | alegen: mine works just fine |
| 15:16.29 | alegen | abrotman, KittyPaws: i envy you two... :( |
| 15:16.53 | boudiccas | alegen: qmaybe your mic needs drivers to owrk under linux? |
| 15:16.54 | KittyPaws | alegen: :( |
| 15:16.55 | boudiccas | work |
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| 15:17.10 | KittyPaws | alegen: I haulled away my mic as garbage. |
| 15:17.17 | alegen | well, i have an asus eee 1001px |
| 15:17.22 | abrotman | KittyPaws: please concentrate on fixing your problem |
| 15:17.27 | KittyPaws | abrotman: ? |
| 15:17.30 | KittyPaws | What problem? :o |
| 15:17.35 | abrotman | then you can /part now |
| 15:17.36 | KittyPaws | I can't fix it :( |
| 15:17.40 | KittyPaws | X is borked :( |
| 15:17.48 | KittyPaws | Ur just pissed off at me. |
| 15:17.57 | abrotman | KittyPaws: so work on getting your problem fixed, not screwing someone else's system |
| 15:18.05 | KittyPaws | There is no need to be like that abrotman |
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| 15:18.21 | abrotman | KittyPaws: you've been a problem over and over, work on getting your stuff fixed and quickly |
| 15:18.25 | boudiccas | KittyPaws: only a fool argues with an op! |
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| 15:18.37 | abrotman | alegen: you've checked your mixer levels? |
| 15:18.39 | ikonia | this explains a lot |
| 15:19.01 | abrotman | alegen: oh, you're getting help on OFTC |
| 15:19.35 | alegen | abrotman: i asked there too, but they couldn`t do much |
| 15:19.43 | alegen | and yes, i checked alsamixer and all looks ok |
| 15:19.58 | KittyPaws | alegen: I know what might fix it. |
| 15:20.05 | abrotman | alegen: but asking two places at the same time can lead to confusing things happening .. concentrate on one network please |
| 15:20.08 | KittyPaws | mute the speakers |
| 15:20.13 | KittyPaws | mute the mic |
| 15:20.14 | abrotman | KittyPaws: stop |
| 15:20.25 | KittyPaws | mute the master control then unmute them |
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| 15:20.29 | *** mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
| 15:20.41 | abrotman | KittyPaws: take a timeout, when it's over, work on *your* problem |
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| 15:21.40 | abrotman | alegen: please let OFTC finish giving you help before asking here .. |
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| 15:21.56 | alegen | abrotman: ok, sorry about that |
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| 15:26.27 | hollunder | hi there. I do seem to have some serious problem with mke2fs. It freezes the whole machine. Is this a known issue? |
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| 15:26.57 | ikonia | never seen that problem |
| 15:27.08 | abrotman | hollunder: freeze? waited how long? |
| 15:27.30 | yeats | hollunder: are you running that with a livecd? |
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| 15:28.33 | hollunder | a few minutes. I'm pretty sure it's a freeze. It is actually squeeze running in kvm. After it froze I can't ssh to it or anything else, all I can do is force it off. |
| 15:29.31 | hollunder | I tried with mkfs.ext4, same for ext3 and ext2, that's why I think it's mke2fs related. mkfs.vfat works. |
| 15:29.31 | yeats | hollunder: can you share the full command you're trying? |
| 15:29.49 | hollunder | mkfs.ext4 /dev/vdb1 |
| 15:29.54 | abrotman | hollunder: how big is the filesystem ? |
| 15:30.17 | hollunder | it's 2TB |
| 15:30.22 | abrotman | hollunder: and the CPU speed? |
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| 15:31.31 | hollunder | good question... I gave it only 1 of those four cores and it doesn't seem CPU-bound (~7% in top) |
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| 15:31.53 | abrotman | hollunder: 2TB will take a fair amount of time |
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| 15:33.06 | hollunder | abrotman, it works fine up to a certain point. Then nothing reacts, I can't reach the machine via ssh. top running in a second ssh session doesn't update. All this means to me the machine hangs. |
| 15:34.29 | jelly-home | hollunder: it also eats quite a bit of RAM |
| 15:34.33 | abrotman | hollunder: tried with a smaller filesystem? |
| 15:34.44 | jelly-home | hollunder: rule of thumb: 1GB RAM per 1TB |
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| 15:35.41 | lupine | for reference, I've successfully put together 2TB filesystems on 1GB VMs in the past |
| 15:35.45 | lupine | (ext3) |
| 15:36.07 | jelly-home | lupine: have you also successfully fscked them when they were 50-80% full? |
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| 15:36.20 | lupine | hah, no |
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| 15:36.33 | lupine | (these were sparse files |
| 15:36.34 | hollunder | ok, maybe that's it, I'll try to increase the ram for the machine |
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| 15:36.59 | jelly-home | lupine: try it some time, don't get a surprise at the worst possible moment |
| 15:37.12 | lupine | I'd never try that kind of thing in production |
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| 15:38.05 | lupine | (well. we have some 6TB ext3 filesystems hanging around in production, but the machines have ~64GB RAM and 16 cores, and never get autofscked) |
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| 15:39.34 | haylo | soo, anyone found any good guides on providing disk encryption on a simple 2 partition debootstrap install ? : ) I am think ing of ditching aes-loop and perhaps concentrating on dm-crypt and luks |
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| 15:41.01 | hollunder | I gave it 4GB ram now but it still got stuck. Writing inode tables: 841/14897 |
| 15:41.03 | haylo | aes-loop-utils is no longer supported it looks like. So everything has to be done with aespipe, or with an older distribution package set. And I have not been finding adequete info on how to use aespipe correctly. |
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| 15:42.55 | hollunder | it always gets stuck around 800-something |
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| 15:46.52 | LordDeath | a question about updating openssh while I am connected over ssh |
| 15:47.12 | LordDeath | do I need to restart openssh manually to enable the new version? |
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| 15:48.39 | tremon | LordDeath: no, the package upgrade will restart it. Restarting the ssh daemon does not affect open sessions |
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| 15:49.16 | haylo | hollunder: have you run the "badblocks" command on the disk? |
| 15:49.37 | haylo | looks like you are trying to write out a filesystem inode table and it is failing |
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| 15:50.10 | haylo | it wont do anything to save the disk, but at least it might take some of the mystery out of what is happening |
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| 15:53.42 | hollunder | haylo, yes, but only the 'read' variant so far |
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| 15:53.57 | hollunder | there's nothing to save yet |
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| 15:54.23 | hollunder | it's a new 2TB disk that's intended to be used as storage |
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| 15:55.27 | hollunder | the more I think about it... it must have to do with kvm |
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| 15:55.46 | hollunder | I did manage to format it as ext4 on the host |
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| 15:59.14 | quarky92 | hello guys, how can i adjust the brightness\contrast settings on debian(GNOME)? |
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| 15:59.55 | quarky92 | i recently changed the resolution of the screen and now the brightness\contrast settings are screwed |
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| 16:00.36 | haylo | quarky92: gnome is a desktop enviornment. /join #gnome to get more specific support, or just wait and maybe a user/devleoper has the same problem/desktop |
| 16:00.53 | quarky92 | thank you |
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| 16:01.27 | abrotman | quarky92: is this a laptop or desktop ? |
| 16:01.44 | abrotman | quarky92: also, which version of gnome |
| 16:02.02 | abrotman | or let haylo drive you away ... |
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| 16:08.31 | quarky92 | it's a PC |
| 16:08.41 | abrotman | quarky92: and which version of Gnome? |
| 16:08.46 | quarky92 | version 2.30.2 |
| 16:09.20 | abrotman | quarky92: can't you just turn up the brightness on your CRT/LCD ? |
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| 16:09.52 | quarky92 | i did, but it changes nothing |
| 16:10.11 | quarky92 | my gray shades are still white |
| 16:10.22 | quarky92 | or almost white |
| 16:10.38 | haylo | quarky92: dont go, i didnt mean it :) |
| 16:10.47 | abrotman | ... |
| 16:10.52 | ChrisH | To get from unstable "back" to testing, would the time wheezy gets stable be a good time? Idea: replace unstable with jessie and keep the fingers crossed? |
| 16:11.07 | abrotman | ChrisH: yes, eventually they should sync |
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| 16:11.29 | abrotman | quarky92: you looked in the Preferences for a display setting? |
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| 16:12.29 | ChrisH | abrotman: change sources now or when the relase gets announced? |
| 16:13.06 | abrotman | ChrisH: release time should be fine |
| 16:13.13 | quarky92 | abrotman: i did, nothing helped |
| 16:13.31 | abrotman | quarky92: other than going back to the old resolution ? |
| 16:13.34 | quarky92 | just the appearance preferences, i selected a darker theme |
| 16:13.49 | quarky92 | tried that, same thing |
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| 16:14.11 | ChrisH | abrotman: just checked, there is not jessie visible in dists/ so I have to wait. thanks. |
| 16:14.27 | abrotman | ChrisH: right, it won't be created until a few days after wheezy is released |
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| 16:33.11 | censef | when do you believe wheezy will release? (non-commitattal, of course) |
| 16:33.58 | Vicissitude | when it's ready |
| 16:34.44 | abrotman | never bwhahahahaha |
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| 16:38.15 | maxxe | probably only within a few months 2-3? 4? but depends :) |
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| 16:42.06 | haylo | censef: if you just want to try it, you can build it with debian-live. But the release date is truly "when it is ready" thats part of what makes debian special, the releases are based on their stability not a specific release date. |
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| 16:44.16 | abrotman | haylo: or he could just actually install it? or maybe he just wants to know when it will release |
| 16:45.06 | HelloShitty | who helps me upgrading php 5.4.4 to 5.4.11-1? |
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| 16:46.11 | axgb | Hi |
| 16:46.17 | axgb | Can I have some help? |
| 16:46.21 | abrotman | HelloShitty: which version of linux? |
| 16:46.33 | HelloShitty | debian hweezy |
| 16:46.41 | axgb | I just installed debian squeeze and there is no internet working |
| 16:46.49 | abrotman | HelloShitty: 5.4.11 doesn't exist in Debian |
| 16:46.54 | haylo | censef: it will release when abrotman uses his profound expertise on debian devel squashing bugs, instead of bickering with me. |
| 16:46.55 | abrotman | axgb: wireless or wired? |
| 16:47.03 | abrotman | haylo: knock it off |
| 16:47.12 | axgb | I have tried both; neither work; but I would like both to work |
| 16:47.13 | HelloShitty | abrotman, what about 5.4.7? |
| 16:47.19 | abrotman | judd: versions php5 |
| 16:47.20 | judd | Package: php5 on i386 -- lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny16; lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny16; squeeze-proposed-updates: 5.3.3-7+squeeze13; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze13; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze14; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze14; sid: 5.4.4-13; wheezy: 5.4.4-13; experimental: 5.5.0~alpha4-1 |
| 16:47.24 | haylo | kk sorry |
| 16:47.28 | abrotman | HelloShitty: those are your choices |
| 16:47.39 | abrotman | i wouldn't recommend 5.5.x |
| 16:47.40 | HelloShitty | i need to install an app that need at least 5.4.7 |
| 16:47.55 | HelloShitty | i'm on amd64 |
| 16:47.58 | abrotman | axgb: which one would you like to work on first? |
| 16:48.22 | abrotman | HelloShitty: seems like you'll have to compile it yourself |
| 16:48.28 | axgb | I want both; I dont mind which first; it is connected to the switch with ethernet, but it has wireless |
| 16:48.42 | axgb | so I can get things through a wired connection |
| 16:48.48 | HelloShitty | and can i get some help on that? |
| 16:49.05 | axgb | I have tried and failed to install WICD, and uninstalled remains of it |
| 16:49.12 | axgb | im mean what I installed |
| 16:49.20 | abrotman | axgb: what is your wireless device |
| 16:49.29 | abrotman | HelloShitty: ##php should be able to help you |
| 16:49.30 | axgb | some intel wireless card |
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| 16:49.50 | abrotman | axgb: lspci -nn .. what is the device |
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| 16:50.39 | axgb | Intel corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3b mini pci adapter |
| 16:51.00 | abrotman | axgb: so, we'll have you grab the wireless firmware, and install with dpkg .. do you have a USB drive handy? |
| 16:51.03 | qcjn | hi, i'm using Debian 6 squeeze on VmWare. I've put 3 NIC, on has eth0 192.168.19.1 on vmnet3, on has eth1 172.16.19.1 on vmnet3 and the third has eth2 192.168.0.45 Bridged. It 's the local network. Ifconfig displays all, including the eth2, with the static address. But ping wont work ?? |
| 16:51.21 | axgb | it seems to connect to the NAS fine; but not to internet |
| 16:51.32 | axgb | So I do have a way of transferring firmware over |
| 16:51.49 | abrotman | the NAS? |
| 16:51.54 | abrotman | so network is working ? |
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| 16:52.00 | axgb | a hdd accessible from all the computers in the network |
| 16:52.13 | axgb | it connects to that by wire, but nothing else works |
| 16:52.25 | axgb | so the network does work a little bit |
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| 16:52.39 | abrotman | axgb: are you sure it's not just DNS not working? |
| 16:52.46 | Pei | Does anyone know anything about the ath9k "hard freeze" bug/issue? |
| 16:52.46 | axgb | whats DNS |
| 16:53.07 | axgb | is it a settng with the computer or the router |
| 16:53.09 | abrotman | axgb: telnet 173.194.75.104 80 .... does that work ? |
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| 16:54.19 | axgb | what is the device with the IP you said |
| 16:54.25 | abrotman | that's google |
| 16:54.28 | abrotman | does it reach it ? |
| 16:54.39 | axgb | It says unable to reach remote host - conenction timed out |
| 16:55.10 | axgb | sorry, it has done something, i did not add the 80 to the end |
| 16:55.30 | abrotman | you need the 80 there :) |
| 16:55.33 | axgb | should I have done 104:80 or 104 80 |
| 16:55.41 | abrotman | telnet 173.194.75.104 80 |
| 16:55.43 | abrotman | just like that |
| 16:55.56 | qcjn | when i ping Wireshark says "who has 192.168.0.1" |
| 16:55.58 | axgb | yes i did it just like that. |
| 16:56.14 | axgb | It says connected to (what you said) |
| 16:56.18 | abrotman | axgb: and it works? if you type "GET /" it should dump HTML to your terminal |
| 16:56.37 | axgb | yes, some random html |
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| 16:57.02 | abrotman | axgb: what are the contents of /etc/resolv.conf ? |
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| 16:57.49 | axgb | If I type apt-get update, it says unable to reach sercurity.debian.org |
| 16:58.02 | abrotman | right ... what are the contents of /etc/resolv.conf ? |
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| 16:58.50 | axgb | nothing |
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| 16:59.04 | abrotman | axgb: can you add a single line "nameserver 8.8.8.8" |
| 16:59.22 | axgb | what does that do |
| 16:59.32 | abrotman | sets up a DNS server for you to use |
| 17:00.18 | axgb | what do I do now, i have done it |
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| 17:00.28 | axgb | is there a network restart command I need to use |
| 17:00.29 | abrotman | aptitude update .. what happens? |
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| 17:01.13 | axgb | it works |
| 17:01.16 | axgb | ! |
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| 17:01.33 | abrotman | axgb: so you use DHCP on your network? |
| 17:01.35 | axgb | and wired internet works |
| 17:02.03 | axgb | yes, it is DHCP; i recently worked on the network. Printers, nas are static, computers, phones are dhcp |
| 17:02.22 | StephenS | Which one amd64armelkfreebsd-i386kfreebsd-amd64i386ia64mipsmipselpowerpcsparc? |
| 17:02.34 | abrotman | StephenS: for what? |
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| 17:02.40 | StephenS | for home use |
| 17:02.44 | StephenS | I have cpu AMD Athlon II X2 21537 °C |
| 17:02.45 | StephenS | Regor 45nm Technology |
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| 17:02.48 | lyda | for your weekend amusement: a venn diagram of unix commands/utils, us states and territories and irish license plate codes: http://goo.gl/Zy3eY |
| 17:02.51 | abrotman | StephenS: amd64 |
| 17:02.55 | StephenS | Motherboard ASUSTeK Computer INC. M2N68-AM SE2 (AM2) |
| 17:03.01 | axgb | this is a home network I am talking about |
| 17:03.07 | StephenS | Why people told me i386 |
| 17:03.10 | abrotman | axgb: yes, I use DHCP at home |
| 17:03.14 | StephenS | or ia64? |
| 17:03.20 | abrotman | not ia64 |
| 17:03.26 | abrotman | do you want 32bit or 64bit? |
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| 17:03.45 | StephenS | Which one is faster and better? |
| 17:03.48 | StephenS | I have 2GB of ram |
| 17:03.52 | abrotman | test them both |
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| 17:04.03 | ompaul | StephenS: your use cases are yours |
| 17:04.07 | StephenS | I have problem with installing it |
| 17:04.12 | abrotman | installing what?! |
| 17:04.16 | StephenS | I have windows 8 and IM afraid to lose data |
| 17:04.18 | ompaul | well ia64 won't work |
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| 17:04.21 | StephenS | installing debian |
| 17:04.32 | axgb | abrotman, should I now do apt-get install wicd |
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| 17:04.51 | abrotman | axgb: you can, yes |
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| 17:05.02 | abrotman | axgb: we shuld probably get your wireless firmware first though |
| 17:05.09 | StephenS | ok download amd64 |
| 17:05.12 | StephenS | and not i386 |
| 17:05.19 | StephenS | Does amd64 run faster? |
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| 17:05.23 | abrotman | axgb: if you 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list', do you see "non-free" anywhere |
| 17:05.24 | abrotman | ? |
| 17:05.28 | abrotman | StephenS: try it and see |
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| 17:05.34 | axgb | it said that ther wireless firmware was not avalible during install, because of non-free software |
| 17:05.41 | e1z0 | does linux fastar ? |
| 17:05.41 | abrotman | axgb: yes, we'll fix that now |
| 17:05.51 | e1z0 | deep of shit |
| 17:05.59 | e1z0 | use mac |
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| 17:06.08 | axgb | what does non-free mean? Does it mean i have to pay for it? or does it mean that it is not open source? |
| 17:06.12 | StephenS | While installing debian if I choose install on largest free space disk |
| 17:06.21 | StephenS | Will then that be installed on my partiton which have 100gb free ram |
| 17:06.30 | abrotman | axgb: just not open source mostly .. you won't have to pay for it |
| 17:06.30 | StephenS | Its currently ntfs formated for win, but Im just asking.. |
| 17:06.39 | abrotman | suspects a troll |
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| 17:06.56 | Pei | nobody can help me with ath9k driver freezing the system? |
| 17:07.18 | abrotman | axgb: so you'll want to add " contrib non-free" to the end of each "deb" source line |
| 17:07.24 | axgb | it said that ipw2100 was non-free and to insert a memory stick with it installed, or to click to conitinue |
| 17:07.43 | axgb | ipw2100, it said, was a wireless driver, online |
| 17:07.43 | abrotman | waits for axgb to read |
| 17:07.53 | StephenS | help me? |
| 17:08.31 | axgb | sorry |
| 17:08.47 | abrotman | axgb: did you add the " contrib non-free" yet? |
| 17:08.59 | axgb | can i do gedit sources.list |
| 17:09.10 | abrotman | probably easier to use nano or vi |
| 17:09.14 | abrotman | (as root) |
| 17:09.25 | axgb | i am using gedit as root |
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| 17:09.37 | abrotman | okay, you can do it that way if you prefer |
| 17:09.55 | jelly-home | StephenS: you might have to erase or shrink a partition if the whole disk is partitioned up. |
| 17:10.15 | StephenS | cannot debian intstaller do that for me? |
| 17:10.35 | axgb | yes i have done that |
| 17:10.57 | abrotman | axgb: aptitude update |
| 17:11.16 | abrotman | axgb: aptitude install firmware-ipw2x00 |
| 17:11.48 | axgb | it is updating now |
| 17:12.36 | jelly-home | StephenS: I _think_ you can tell it to, yes |
| 17:13.22 | axgb | it said that it could not find firmware-ipw2x00 |
| 17:13.38 | axgb | it said it could not find a package matching that description |
| 17:13.40 | abrotman | axgb: could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 17:14.43 | axgb | i dont know how to pastebin, but it has the source sercurity.debian.org and ftp.debain.org |
| 17:15.05 | abrotman | axgb: you have a browser? use paste.debian.net to show us the file |
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| 17:17.03 | Pei | are there any howtos on upgrading the kernel in debian? |
| 17:17.31 | axgb | i have posted it on paste.debian.net; it is post number 237461 |
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| 17:17.57 | axgb | i have epithany browser |
| 17:18.01 | abrotman | axgb: aptitude update |
| 17:18.18 | axgb | done that |
| 17:18.25 | abrotman | axgb: then "aptitude search ipw2x00" |
| 17:18.31 | abrotman | does it return anything ? |
| 17:18.58 | axgb | it says nothing |
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| 17:19.22 | abrotman | axgb: apt-cache search intel firmware |
| 17:19.52 | axgb | it has some bootloader fimware |
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| 17:20.07 | cedr | Is anyone here watching for a 6.0.7 ISO torrent? If so, could you please ping me when it's available? |
| 17:20.12 | axgb | efibootmgr and elilo, irrelivent (i think) |
| 17:20.14 | etna | does anyone know when Debian will get Mesa 9? |
| 17:20.14 | Pinchiukas | What's new in Debian 7? |
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| 17:20.22 | abrotman | cedr: probably not for a day or two |
| 17:20.28 | cedr | abrotman: ahh, I see - thanks |
| 17:20.39 | abrotman | axgb: just one? nothing about wireless? |
| 17:20.53 | cedr | abrotman: I've been seeding 6.0.6 for a while now, so just wanted to make sure my seedbox was up to date sooner rather than later :) |
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| 17:20.56 | axgb | just the two bootloaders i listed above |
| 17:21.16 | abrotman | axgb: you don't get any errors with 'aptitude update' ? |
| 17:21.59 | axgb | no, it says ign (then an adress) and hit (then an address) |
| 17:22.19 | abrotman | axgb: can you pastebin that output also? |
| 17:22.37 | abrotman | axgb: oh! i see the problem |
| 17:22.51 | abrotman | axgb: open up the sources.list in your gedit again, let me know when you're ready |
| 17:22.58 | etna | Does anyone know when Debian will get Mesa 9? Have been checking out the testing and experimental repositories but the latest version is still Mesa 8... |
| 17:23.46 | axgb | i pasted it |
| 17:23.51 | abrotman | axgb: open up the sources.list in your gedit again, let me know when you're ready |
| 17:23.54 | axgb | the post is called aptitude |
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| 17:24.16 | axgb | i opened sources.list |
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| 17:24.36 | axgb | is there another source to add |
| 17:24.44 | abrotman | axgb: add this line at the bottom "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free" |
| 17:24.45 | tremon | etna: some time after wheezy is released |
| 17:24.51 | abrotman | axgb: then 'aptitude update' |
| 17:25.04 | axgb | put the source on pastebin for me, i have irc on another pc |
| 17:25.21 | abrotman | huh? it's just a single line to hadd |
| 17:25.24 | abrotman | add |
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| 17:26.28 | axgb | done it |
| 17:26.33 | abrotman | axgb: aptitude update |
| 17:26.49 | axgb | thats happeneing now |
| 17:26.49 | abrotman | axgb: then "aptitude install firmware-ipw2x00" |
| 17:27.42 | axgb | good, it is installing |
| 17:27.57 | abrotman | axgb: you were missing the main source because your network didn't work at install time |
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| 17:28.05 | abrotman | axgb: then when it's done, you can install anything else you like |
| 17:28.43 | abrotman | axgb: and you should try a reboot test to make sure your DNS keeps working after a restart |
| 17:28.51 | axgb | does that source have everything (like firefox, libreoffice, et cetera) and other desktop enviroments (eg lxde, ede, and the rest) |
| 17:29.37 | abrotman | axgb: yes, though might have openoffice |
| 17:29.49 | abrotman | axgb: also, when you get time, you can comment out the cdrom source line with a '#' |
| 17:30.03 | axgb | i just did that, it gave me an error message |
| 17:30.14 | abrotman | axgb: ? |
| 17:30.27 | axgb | the cd firmware source, i removed that |
| 17:30.31 | abrotman | ah okay |
| 17:30.32 | axgb | laptopbrain said to |
| 17:30.47 | abrotman | axgb: i'm going to have the bot send you some stuff .. read when you have time .. you may find it useful |
| 17:30.52 | abrotman | dpkg: tell axgb about bpo |
| 17:30.55 | abrotman | dpkg: tell axgb about mdn |
| 17:31.01 | abrotman | dpkg: tell axgb about mdn |
| 17:31.27 | etna | tremon: it's 24 here, so that means Wheezy should be released later today right? |
| 17:31.57 | etna | at least, according to the Distrowatch lists, Wheezy should be released on the 24th |
| 17:32.14 | abrotman | ... |
| 17:32.51 | axgb | the bot did not send me anything |
| 17:32.58 | abrotman | axgb: sure it did .. check your msg windows |
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| 17:33.11 | axgb | yes it did; i see now |
| 17:33.38 | axgb | is it a good idea for me to completely change from ubuntu to debian |
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| 17:33.58 | etna | axgb: if you don't mind using older but more stable packages yes |
| 17:33.58 | abrotman | i have no idea .. i don't use ubuntu |
| 17:34.06 | hollunder | my problem seems to be gone now. I'm not sure what the problem was, I only have a hunch. Oh, and resource usage during mkfs.ext4 seems to be low, top reports very low cpu usage and only 80M memory. |
| 17:34.14 | axgb | now i cant run wicd, i just installed it |
| 17:34.19 | axgb | it says no sudo |
| 17:34.24 | abrotman | axgb: huh? |
| 17:34.34 | etna | for some people Debian is a no go simply because certain packages tend to be too old |
| 17:34.47 | abrotman | etna: because they don't know what they're doing :) |
| 17:35.02 | Pei | which package to i need to install if i want to get the linux kernel source for debian? |
| 17:35.05 | nkuttler | etna: yeah, some people prefer shiny new stuff that breaks all the time.. |
| 17:35.16 | Pei | i need to patch the ath9k wifi drivers |
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| 17:35.20 | hollunder | etna, does older make it more stable? |
| 17:35.25 | etna | my question on Mesa 9 is a good example; i need it for the RadeonSI driver |
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| 17:35.44 | etna | hollunder: you'd expect older packages to be more throughly tested |
| 17:35.46 | axgb | is there no sudo for debian? |
| 17:35.58 | Pei | axgb: of course there is |
| 17:36.01 | abrotman | yes, it has to be installed and configured |
| 17:36.05 | axgb | that is how I am used to running things as root, for all of what I just did, it used su |
| 17:36.29 | axgb | how do i install sudo |
| 17:36.31 | hollunder | etna, I expect newer versions to have more bugs fixed |
| 17:36.36 | axgb | is there a one line command |
| 17:36.39 | Pei | apt- get install sudo maybe? |
| 17:36.42 | Pei | err |
| 17:36.43 | abrotman | aptitude install sudo |
| 17:36.50 | abrotman | hollunder: not always the case |
| 17:36.55 | Pei | type apt-get install sudo |
| 17:36.58 | Pei | ?? i dunno |
| 17:37.03 | abrotman | aptitude install sudo |
| 17:37.16 | Pei | that too |
| 17:37.18 | axgb | so i can either do sudo or su |
| 17:37.23 | abrotman | axgb: yes |
| 17:37.25 | Pei | yes |
| 17:37.39 | etna | hollunder: true too |
| 17:37.45 | Pei | abrotman: which package is the linux source code for debian? |
| 17:37.58 | axgb | what is the point of a normal user account? why not use root account always? it said not to online, but what is the reason |
| 17:38.11 | abrotman | Pei: you sohuld know how to search for packages by now .. good luck |
| 17:38.21 | abrotman | axgb: remember Windows 98? |
| 17:38.25 | Pei | i did, but i can't find it |
| 17:38.32 | axgb | I was born year 2000 |
| 17:38.45 | abrotman | axgb: oh ... |
| 17:38.48 | axgb | I am intending on installing an old os on a computer sometime |
| 17:38.50 | Pei | linuxthefish- source said Package 'kernel-source' has no installation candidate |
| 17:38.53 | hollunder | I actually like it at the bleeding edge most of the time, however, debian stable means less maintenance effort |
| 17:38.58 | axgb | i am intending on installing windows 95 |
| 17:39.01 | abrotman | axgb: you don't run everytihng as root because root has the power to destroy your entire system |
| 17:39.06 | etna | axgb: because admin / root accounts mean that you can go anything and everything |
| 17:39.09 | Pei | the linux-source said Package 'kernel-source' has no installation candidate |
| 17:39.11 | Pei | even |
| 17:39.13 | etna | like deleting /lib |
| 17:39.33 | etna | *do |
| 17:39.33 | axgb | I do not see the reason for that - most people are sensible enough not to delete some random system folder |
| 17:39.45 | abrotman | axgb: accidents happen |
| 17:40.00 | Pei | i wouldn't be asking for help if i hadn't tried looking first |
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| 17:40.04 | etna | tell that to the people who deleted C:\ and Windows\Win32\*.DLL |
| 17:40.06 | abrotman | axgb: idle here awhile .. we have at least one person a week that has done something catostrophic |
| 17:40.27 | axgb | ok |
| 17:40.46 | abrotman | axgb: and that can be anything from a mistyped rm command to a chmod command .. accidents happen, doing everything as root is not a good plan |
| 17:40.56 | Pei | errr apt-get kernel-source said: Package 'kernel-source' has no installation candidate |
| 17:41.06 | etna | there really do exist stupid people out there who thinks "I don't know what this file is but i never used it so i can trash it" |
| 17:41.07 | Pei | so how do i get the kernel source |
| 17:41.12 | axgb | like rm /, that would delete the whole system, and kill the computer |
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| 17:41.32 | axgb | the sort of person that etna described should not be using linux |
| 17:41.54 | hollunder | but sudo doesn't really protect you from that |
| 17:42.05 | tremon | axgb: thank you, but I'm using linux just fine |
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| 17:42.32 | etna | and im not ashamed to admit that I was one of those stupid people in my childhood. Killed my dad's Windows installation and got into so much trouble. |
| 17:42.33 | lupine | eh, it's the year of the linux desktop |
| 17:42.37 | lupine | we can all use linux |
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| 17:42.41 | Pei | PLEASE FOR GOD SAKES IT'S A LEGITIMATE QUESTION WHY AM I BEING IGNORED NOW!?!? |
| 17:42.56 | lupine | Pei, wget http://kernel.org/... |
| 17:43.09 | etna | lupine: she wants the Debian kernel sources |
| 17:43.10 | wsky | Pei: apt-get source |
| 17:43.21 | Pei | wow, thank you wsky |
| 17:43.23 | lupine | ah. it's in a package somewhere |
| 17:43.36 | axgb | when I installed it earlier, I was really careful when doing partitions; i did not want to overwrite windows xp it has on it |
| 17:43.48 | lupine | Pei, apt-cache search linux | grep source |
| 17:43.50 | axgb | abrotman, wicd does not recognise the wireless card |
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| 17:44.01 | etna | i use RPM-based distros so source packages are easier to retrieve; just search for .srpm |
| 17:44.02 | lupine | it'll be called linux-source-<version> IIRC |
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| 17:44.14 | lupine | and it just dumps a tarball in /usr/src |
| 17:44.17 | Pei | now you're just giving me bad information |
| 17:44.18 | Pei | Unable to locate package source |
| 17:44.30 | lupine | now you're not following my instructions correctly |
| 17:44.32 | Pei | lupine: i tried apt-get linux-source |
| 17:44.38 | wsky | so you have no deb src in your sources.list |
| 17:44.46 | lupine | right, that's not the command I gave you |
| 17:44.47 | etna | Pei: did you enable the src repositories? |
| 17:44.54 | Pei | thank you! |
| 17:45.00 | Pei | i will do that |
| 17:45.13 | lupine | linux-source-<version> is not a source package ^^ |
| 17:45.19 | Pei | wait |
| 17:45.20 | axgb | abrotman: it says no wireless networks found |
| 17:45.21 | lupine | (oddly enough) |
| 17:45.24 | Pei | they are installed |
| 17:45.26 | Pei | err |
| 17:45.30 | Pei | they are enabled |
| 17:45.34 | Pei | the sources |
| 17:45.36 | lupine | apt-get source linux-image-<version> would work, probably |
| 17:45.49 | lupine | but it's hard to say what they want at this stage |
| 17:45.53 | wsky | Pei: apt-get source linux-image... will install the sources in your current directory |
| 17:46.08 | wsky | i'm going out for a cig, brb |
| 17:46.08 | Pei | thanks |
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| 17:46.32 | Pei | it'll be the debian configured version? |
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| 17:46.53 | bluesm | Can I limit speed connection ? |
| 17:47.00 | Pei | Unable to find a source package for linux-image |
| 17:47.02 | bluesm | *connection speed ? |
| 17:47.27 | bluesm | I have to test my web-app under slower network. |
| 17:47.33 | Pei | i have "deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main" and "deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free" |
| 17:47.37 | Pei | in my sources.list |
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| 17:47.54 | Pinchiukas | What's new in Debian 7? |
| 17:47.56 | lupine | leaves y'all to it |
| 17:48.15 | Pei | lupine please |
| 17:48.17 | Pei | don't |
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| 17:48.35 | lupine | if you can't follow simple instructions precisely, there is no hope for you |
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| 17:49.35 | axgb | Wicd does not detect any wirelesss netowrks |
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| 17:50.16 | axgb | clearly the driver, ipw2x00 does not work |
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| 17:50.36 | Pei | what's the difference between linux-image and linux-image-rt? what is RT? |
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| 17:50.47 | Pei | do i need rt? |
| 17:50.50 | nkuttler | Pei: apt-cache show package |
| 17:50.57 | nkuttler | Pei: no |
| 17:51.03 | shawnbon206 | any idea how i can recover my nickserv password guys? |
| 17:51.14 | nkuttler | shawnbon206: #freenode |
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| 17:51.41 | abrotman | axgb: still there? |
| 17:51.50 | axgb | yes |
| 17:51.55 | axgb | yes |
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| 17:52.25 | abrotman | axgb: you have to go into the settings for wicd and tell it to manage your wireless device .. you may want to reboot first to make sure the DNS and wireless driver are correctly loaded |
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| 17:52.55 | axgb | the wicd does not detect wireless networks |
| 17:53.19 | abrotman | axgb: did you tell it to manage your wireless device? |
| 17:53.42 | axgb | I am doing that now |
| 17:54.36 | axgb | is it under preferences in wicd-client |
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| 17:55.11 | abrotman | when i use it with LXDE, i click on the icon in the taskbar, and go to the settings |
| 17:55.18 | axgb | the network interfaces Wireless Interface option is empty. Is that a possible problem |
| 17:55.21 | shawnbon206 | nkuttler: thx |
| 17:55.27 | abrotman | axgb: right |
| 17:55.40 | axgb | what do I put into the box |
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| 17:56.05 | abrotman | axgb: your wireless device .. do you have something like wlan0 when you '/sbin/ifconfig -a' ? |
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| 17:57.10 | axgb | when I type that, there is eth0, eth1 and lo |
| 17:57.45 | axgb | there is no wlan option |
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| 17:57.58 | axgb | the laptop has a light for wireless, and it is o |
| 17:58.05 | axgb | *on |
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| 17:58.33 | abrotman | axgb: okay, so eth1 is likely your wifi .. you can use iwlist to check |
| 17:59.10 | abrotman | axgb: iwlist eth0 scanning |
| 17:59.12 | abrotman | or eth1 |
| 17:59.17 | abrotman | or check in 'dmesg' |
| 17:59.23 | shawnbon206 | ok am deciding on an OS for my new home server (i know you guys hate these questions). i need to pool 6 drives together in an array, software passed. raid 1+0. i was reading opinions on teh interweb and some say zfs is the second coming of jesus, and other people prefer to use linux mdadm because you can grow your array later and also linux samba is better implemented and file transfers should be faster |
| 17:59.23 | shawnbon206 | . I don't know what to think now :/ |
| 17:59.30 | Leoneof | hello, i've extracted iso file for Debian wheezy, so...i want to mv all *.deb files to specified folder (like /home/x/abc) , how to do that in command line? |
| 17:59.33 | shawnbon206 | software based* |
| 17:59.59 | abrotman | shawnbon206: btrfs ? |
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| 18:00.19 | axgb | yes that is correct. I thought that might be the case - eth1 and eth0 had a different MAC adress |
| 18:00.25 | abrotman | Leoneof: find . -name *.deb -exec mv {} /foo/bar/ \; |
| 18:00.28 | abrotman | Leoneof: i think ... |
| 18:00.42 | Leoneof | abrotman: cool, i will test it. |
| 18:00.44 | shawnbon206 | butterfuss |
| 18:01.28 | axgb | is it necessary to change it to wlan0, or is that just a waste of time |
| 18:01.58 | abrotman | axgb: leave it the way it is |
| 18:02.02 | axgb | ok |
| 18:02.18 | axgb | it does not matter, does it. |
| 18:02.50 | axgb | can I use aptitude like i used to use ubuntu software centre |
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| 18:03.13 | abrotman | yes |
| 18:03.23 | abrotman | or you can install software center if you want to use that |
| 18:03.52 | axgb | good, thanks for all your help, now I will be spending a few hours typing sudo apt-get ...... |
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| 18:06.48 | axgb | abrotman, if i need to install debian again, should I connect it via ethernet, so this problem wont happen again? |
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| 18:07.13 | abrotman | axgb: ideally, yes |
| 18:07.32 | Leoneof | abrotman: your bash is excellent, thank you :) |
| 18:07.33 | axgb | its easy, just for me to go downstairs to where the router and switch is |
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| 18:08.29 | axgb | anyway, thanks abrotman for all your help |
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| 18:09.35 | Pei | what's the best way to "make" the kernel for a grub bootloaded machine?.... make clean; make bzImage |
| 18:09.38 | Pei | ? |
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| 18:10.47 | abrotman | Pei: what did you do with the other distros you used? |
| 18:10.56 | Pei | make bzlilo |
| 18:11.02 | Pei | but this doesn't have lilo |
| 18:12.36 | wsky | Pei: eneter apt-get build-dep first |
| 18:12.56 | wsky | Pei:apt-get build-deplinux-image |
| 18:13.01 | wsky | Pei:apt-get build-dep linux-image |
| 18:13.09 | Pei | which one heh |
| 18:13.14 | Pei | last one/ |
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| 18:13.28 | wsky | this will pull in deps for builing debian package of the kernel and stuff |
| 18:13.29 | StephenS | hey guys I have resized partition from win to free unlocated, however when I use guided partition on largest free space available I get etx3 and /swap on my ata disk and primary disk on usb |
| 18:13.30 | StephenS | How come? |
| 18:13.42 | StephenS | My usb have 8 gb, but if primary disk is on usb my debian wont work |
| 18:13.45 | wsky | Pei: yes last one; and then make -j3 deb-pkg |
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| 18:14.10 | wsky | you can adjust your -j number if you have more than 2 cpu cores |
| 18:14.33 | Pei | j3 huh? |
| 18:14.42 | Pei | well it's only a dual-core |
| 18:14.44 | StephenS | Is this possible to debian installer creat epartition on usb or am I tripping? |
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| 18:16.44 | StephenS | anyone\? |
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| 18:20.43 | Pei | nicing something to MINUS is giving it priority right> |
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| 18:20.58 | Pei | nicing something PLUS is less priority right? |
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| 18:23.10 | abrotman | Pei: read the man page |
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| 18:25.27 | FrankieBoyz | Picture of my whore cheating ex-girlfriend naked: http://imagetwist.com/isaz6v8d77nj |
| 18:26.05 | lupine | oooh, what a lie |
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| 18:30.43 | wsky | Pei: -j3 means 3 threads of compilation. |
| 18:31.03 | wsky | Pei: with -j1 it would use only one of your cores |
| 18:31.22 | wsky | with -j2 it would utilize almost 100% of your cpu |
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| 18:31.38 | wsky | with -j3 it'll utilize 100% of your processor so |
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| 18:31.53 | wsky | so this will speedup the building process |
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| 18:33.53 | Pei | wsky: yes i am aware of the -j flag, thanks :) |
| 18:34.04 | Pei | yer a nice person wsky |
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| 18:34.29 | Pei | thanks for helpin me i know i can be daft sometimes, it's the meds i take for pain due to my muscular dystrophy |
| 18:34.45 | wsky | Pei: yw |
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| 18:35.49 | bolt | I have a Netgear FA411 16-bit pcmcia network card. The squeeze installer autodetects and uses it, while wheezy will not. Wheezy asks for a driver, and loading pcnet_cs manually doesn't help. |
| 18:35.52 | bolt | how come? |
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| 18:36.28 | abrotman | putting it in /etc/modules doe snothing? |
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| 18:36.32 | abrotman | have you looked in dmesg? |
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| 18:37.03 | bolt | i'd have to put it in /etc/modules on the install media then... |
| 18:37.05 | bolt | doing a netinstall |
| 18:37.20 | bolt | i'm just installing squeeze instead now. i'll move to testing from there |
| 18:37.24 | enyawix | i have to start google-chrome from console because it is no where to be found in the menu |
| 18:37.31 | abrotman | bolt: ah okay |
| 18:38.24 | enyawix | sorry could not figure out the bug report email syntax and google did not fine a good example |
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| 18:39.32 | bolt | this seems rather old... http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-pcmcia/2008-November/006021.html |
| 18:39.35 | bolt | can't be that, can it? |
| 18:39.36 | abrotman | enyawix: use reportbug |
| 18:40.07 | abrotman | bolt: one would hope not |
| 18:41.21 | enyawix | ty bolt & abrotman |
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| 18:45.03 | Pei | dumb question since it's a live cd but, will debian-live-6.0.6-amd64-rescue.iso work for wheezy rc1 |
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| 18:45.17 | abrotman | what is wheezy rc1? |
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| 18:45.38 | abrotman | and work for what? |
| 18:45.44 | Pei | firmware-wheezy-DI-rc1-netinst.iso |
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| 18:45.53 | Pei | like, re-installing grub if needed |
| 18:46.25 | Pei | okay not wheezy rc1 |
| 18:46.28 | Pei | i meant wheezy |
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| 18:46.41 | Pei | ut oh |
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| 18:47.45 | bolt | kristijonas: that depends absolutely entirely on what's running on them |
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| 18:47.55 | abrotman | kristijonas: this is #debian ... maybe ask ##networking |
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| 18:48.32 | bolt | kristijonas: disable upnp if not needed. but yeah, ##networking |
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| 18:49.12 | kristijonas | bolt, well, it's Linksnys router I think. okay, i already asked them. :) gonna ask again.:) |
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| 18:52.28 | MaddinXx | sorry if double-post, had an IRC error showing up: hi there. I have problems upgrading to 6.0.7 on on of my machines. It's not able to upgrade ssh or openssh-server. error: http://pastebin.com/a92QemJt - I tried apt-get purge openssh ssh with autoremove, autoclean and clean afterwards and fresh installing those two packages, but same error again and again |
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| 18:53.02 | AlexLikeRock | cradle of filth its fuking hoooooot ! |
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| 18:53.38 | abrotman | AlexLikeRock: You only seem to spew nonsense, please control yourself |
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| 18:53.49 | abrotman | MaddinXx: looking |
| 18:54.07 | abrotman | MaddinXx: put a |
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| 18:54.32 | abrotman | MaddinXx: put a "set -x" on the second line of the postinst for openssh-server in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ and try again |
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| 18:56.15 | MaddinXx | abrotman: thx. currently there is only a postrm file (I guess since now I'm not even able to purge openssh-server)....trying 1 more minute |
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| 19:00.45 | MaddinXx | abrotman: what does set -x do? now I got exit status 1 from postrm when trying to purge openssh-server (without set -x, but I thought it could help here too?) |
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| 19:01.36 | abrotman | MaddinXx: it shuld just spit commands to your terminal |
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| 19:03.52 | MaddinXx | abrotman: here is output of purge try with -set x: http://pastebin.com/8nKEdW73 |
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| 19:08.04 | MaddinXx | abrotman: may I simply remove content from postrm to have "successfull" purge and try to reproduce it's steps manually? |
| 19:08.19 | abrotman | MaddinXx: the apf script is broken in /etc/init.d/ |
| 19:08.24 | abrotman | or so it would seem |
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| 19:10.41 | MaddinXx | abrotman: ah now! thanks a lot. I thought that's just a note but was ignores since it's from a "non-relevant" file. thanks a lot :) |
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| 19:16.09 | JC` | hello all, i'm trying to figure out how gamin (gam_server) starts. i've poked around the startup daemons, the kernel config, and the sysctl variables. am i just missing it? |
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| 19:16.56 | harmaahylje | there really is nothing in the manual? |
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| 19:18.35 | Devastator | ,versions ifenslave-2.6 |
| 19:18.36 | judd | Package: ifenslave-2.6 on i386 -- lenny: 1.1.0-10; squeeze: 1.1.0-17; wheezy: 1.1.0-20; sid: 1.1.0-21 |
| 19:18.50 | Devastator | ,checkbackport ifenslave-2.6 |
| 19:18.51 | judd | Backporting package ifenslave-2.6 in sid→squeeze/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using squeeze, squeeze-backports. |
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| 19:22.33 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps whats the deal with these packages to start new version and put '-ng' on the end like apt-cache-ng ? |
| 19:22.41 | Eryn_1983_FL | does it mean new good or something? |
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| 19:25.15 | bw_ | Eryn_1983_FL: apt-cache-ng is a proxy server for debian/debianbased repositories |
| 19:25.30 | bw_ | its not an improved version of apt-cache |
| 19:25.57 | bw_ | s/proxy/cache :) |
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| 19:28.37 | wad | I just discovered that someone has penetrated my server. They are in there right now, as a non-root user. |
| 19:28.47 | wad | I need to get them off, and change the password. |
| 19:28.51 | wad | What are my options? |
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| 19:29.20 | wad | Anyone? |
| 19:29.29 | wad | I'm about to just yank the power on it. |
| 19:29.42 | Coweater | try the network cord first |
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| 19:30.59 | bw_ | wad: lock the server down, assume everything is compromised, get a disk image and start the forensic |
| 19:31.17 | wad | I don't think they've gone beyond the non-root user. |
| 19:31.36 | wad | If I down this server, I lose internet |
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| 19:31.59 | bw_ | wad: did they get in via a normal user or system user? |
| 19:32.02 | bw_ | like www-data |
| 19:32.03 | wad | normal user |
| 19:32.10 | wad | No, actually my mom's email account |
| 19:32.30 | wad | Her old one |
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| 19:32.40 | wad | So there isn't anything in there that anyone cares about |
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| 19:32.47 | bw_ | :/ weak password maybe, you should run john the ripper against your passwords and enforce a good password policy |
| 19:32.58 | wad | That user ("jane") was running: nohup ./start 63 >> 63 |
| 19:33.04 | wad | Exactly, weak password. |
| 19:33.14 | bw_ | and lock down email only account so there is no shell for them |
| 19:33.27 | wad | Since I long ago migrated the email and almost everything else off of this server, I kind forgot about the accounts on it. |
| 19:33.29 | wad | The other ones. |
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| 19:34.11 | bw_ | hmm, kill their session, lock the account |
| 19:34.14 | wad | I edited /etc/password and set the shell for jane to /bin/false |
| 19:34.35 | bw_ | and check if they didnt setup a non root backdoor |
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| 19:35.03 | Lars_G_ | I'm starting to test multiarch a little. |
| 19:35.42 | Lars_G_ | I have a 32 bit library/program system, with currently a 64 bit kernel. and I'd like to run a 64 bit program that brings in all it's dependencies, but I can't even do an ldd on the program. |
| 19:35.43 | wad | Wow, I started to kill of processes, but it's running a script that respawns them. |
| 19:35.53 | wad | Nuking the user's home directory now |
| 19:36.09 | Lars_G_ | I was guessing multiarch libc-bin:amd64 but it seems that would kill my current libc-bin NOT a good thing. |
| 19:36.24 | Lars_G_ | And there is NO way to migrate my system from i386 to amd64, is there? |
| 19:36.31 | Lars_G_ | What would you suggest? |
| 19:36.43 | wsky | wad: i'd interest in SELinux for the future |
| 19:37.17 | wad | Well, this box's only current duty is to run iptables for me. It's bascially just my internet gateway. |
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| 19:37.33 | wad | I'm fairly surprised it was found. |
| 19:37.38 | wad | It's not even on a dynamic IP address. |
| 19:37.43 | wad | s/dynamic/static/ |
| 19:37.50 | arvind_khadri | Hi, I am running daap server on a debian machine. It is not able to access few directories, even though others have read permission to it. I get an error saying lstat() failed: Permission denied. How do I rectify this? |
| 19:38.01 | bw_ | but jane is a common name |
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| 19:38.21 | bw_ | wad: have a look at fail2ban too |
| 19:38.21 | tremon | Lars_G_: what you're trying should work in wheezy, however you need to be fully up-to-date, multiarch libraries have to be exactly the same version |
| 19:38.31 | wad | yeah, I use that. |
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| 19:38.41 | tremon | did you dpkg --add-architecture amd64 ? |
| 19:38.42 | wad | Or, I did before I redid my iptables.... hmmm..... |
| 19:38.46 | Lars_G_ | tremon: Ah yes, it's very probable I am pretty out of date |
| 19:38.47 | bw_ | wow, so they must have guessed it in 3 tries? |
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| 19:39.15 | Lars_G_ | tremon: so I should be able to install libc-bin:amd64 alongside my libc-bin (which is i386) ? |
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| 19:39.35 | Lars_G_ | Holy |
| 19:39.42 | Lars_G_ | tremon: Yes, 826 packages to update |
| 19:39.42 | Lars_G_ | sigh |
| 19:40.10 | bw_ | Lars_G_: be careful with multiarch, i nearly killed my main-arch with it :> |
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| 19:41.10 | Lars_G_ | bw_: how |
| 19:41.38 | tremon | Lars_G_: I'm not sure about libc-bin, but libc and libc-dev are possible |
| 19:41.46 | Lars_G_ | I would go amd64 completely but then i fear more missing packages/programs in 64 than in 32.... plus I do NOT want to reinstall from scratch :( |
| 19:42.03 | bw_ | Lars_G_: can remember, but "500+ packages to remove" made me suspicous |
| 19:42.19 | Lars_G_ | bw_: HAH yeah, I've had that one before without multiarch |
| 19:42.27 | bw_ | :) |
| 19:42.37 | Lars_G_ | is multiarch the same used to run 32 bit programs (or provide the 32 bit libraries) in 64 bit installs? |
| 19:43.46 | Lars_G_ | so I'd have to deal with the same multiarchness if I change my arch as I do from this side of the pond.... and since I have 90% 32 bit stuff, I'll stay i386 and multiarch what amd64 I can |
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| 19:44.16 | tremon | yes it's the same mechanism but much broader and architecturally sane, it is replacing the various ia32-libs packages that served as a stopgap solution |
| 19:44.37 | Lars_G_ | Hmmmm ok |
| 19:44.43 | Lars_G_ | I wonder if I should go amd64 native |
| 19:44.44 | Lars_G_ | but... |
| 19:44.49 | Lars_G_ | I DONT WANT TO REINSTALL!!! |
| 19:44.51 | Lars_G_ | weeps |
| 19:45.39 | Lars_G_ | At least my /home is separate |
| 19:46.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | what's soooo bad about reinstalling anyway, then? |
| 19:46.02 | Lars_G_ | Maybe I could emit a package list, save /etc and a few /vars and then reinstall using the package list as a script.... |
| 19:46.09 | tremon | no need to reinstall, cross-architecture dist-upgrades are one of the initial case studies that multiarch was written for. I'd wait for jessie before trying it out though, unless you're feeling adventurous |
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| 19:46.28 | Lars_G_ | CutMeOwnThroat: I've "cultivated" this system and the shitload of useless apps it has configured during a long long time |
| 19:46.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | cross-architecture dist-upgrades? |
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| 19:46.45 | Lars_G_ | tremon: Interesting |
| 19:46.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | Lars_G_, yes, but as you said... keep a copy of /etc and clone the packages of your current one |
| 19:47.14 | tremon | CutMeOwnThroat: upgrading an installed system from i386 to amd64 or armel to armhf, etc |
| 19:47.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, debian clone |
| 19:47.19 | dpkg | One method of cloning Debian installs is to take a current Debian machine that is set up with the packages you want and run the command "dpkg --get-selections > ~/selectionfile". Then, after the base install on other machines use that file and do: "dpkg --set-selections < ~/selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade". Also ask me about <aptitude clone>, <reinstall>, <things to backup> <apt-clone>. |
| 19:47.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | tremon, yeah.. sorry, was being unclear... it was just an ... erm, exlamation of wonder? :) |
| 19:48.09 | Lars_G_ | dpkg, things to backup |
| 19:48.10 | dpkg | Some things you should back up include: /etc /home /root /usr/local /usr/src /opt /srv. Tailor to your own purposes. If you think you don't need /var, make sure you don't forget /var/lib/dpkg /var/lib/apt* /var/lib/mysql /var/mail /var/www /var/cache/debconf /var/spool/cron ... |
| 19:48.23 | Lars_G_ | oh golly, opt... |
| 19:48.25 | Lars_G_ | shakes |
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| 19:48.48 | user11156 | Hi, after update (55 updates) i can`t start X. here is end of log file: http://paste.debian.net/237510 |
| 19:48.58 | Lars_G_ | Hmmm for a reinstall I guess backing up /var/lib/dpkg and apt would be a no no |
| 19:48.59 | user11156 | i try with rmmod nvidia modprobe nvidia, but no luck :( |
| 19:49.16 | Lars_G_ | what about debconf.... I should be able to backup debconf |
| 19:49.27 | tremon | dist-upgraded from dapper to etch once |
| 19:49.35 | Lars_G_ | user11156: do you get an error with modprobe nvidia? |
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| 19:49.49 | user11156 | no |
| 19:50.03 | user11156 | i logout. log in with my user but agait can`t start x |
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| 19:50.24 | Lars_G_ | user11156: Then I'd bet it's a mismatch between kernel module and Xorg driver for nvidia drivers |
| 19:50.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | dapper as in.... *buntu? |
| 19:50.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | eww |
| 19:50.54 | user11156 | if this is the problem how can i fix it? |
| 19:51.12 | tremon | what can I say... I was young and foolish ;) |
| 19:51.14 | Lars_G_ | user11156: Check your aptitude to see what your nvidia dkms (or precompiled kernel) module version is, and what your nvidia-glx package |
| 19:51.20 | user11156 | i think that my kernel is again 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 19:51.48 | user11156 | now i`m on livecd, but i have my / mounted. which file to check? |
| 19:51.50 | Lars_G_ | user11156: Check if you have the same available version for both, install/upgrade one if the newest matches the other |
| 19:51.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | tremon, hehe... right. When I say that same thing, I usually continue "... now I'm old and foolish" |
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| 19:52.20 | Lars_G_ | user11156: Not your kernel version, your nvidia driver kernel module. Nvidia and DRI/DRM video cards have two components. A kernel module, and a Xorg driver |
| 19:52.55 | user11156 | i understand, but how to check about this? |
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| 19:53.06 | Lars_G_ | user11156: Your kernel module will either be a precompiled like nvidia-kernel-x.x.x or a dkms: nvidia-kernel-dkms see the version to the right |
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| 19:53.44 | user11156 | can i check vie livecd (without reboot and login in my system)? |
| 19:53.46 | Lars_G_ | user11156: Open aptitude, search for "nvidia-kernel-dkms" see if it's marked as installed, see the installed version on the leftmost of the two numbers to the right of the package name |
| 19:53.57 | Lars_G_ | user11156: I wouldn't reocmment that |
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| 19:54.07 | user11156 | to reboot? |
| 19:54.18 | Lars_G_ | I'd do it with aptitude from the command line in the system per se |
| 19:55.29 | user11156 | ok. thank you |
| 19:55.45 | Lars_G_ | Since afaik you'll be doing it from command line anyhow, as there is no way I know you can run the xorg from your live cd but work on the binaries and directories of your hdd install from the gui... |
| 19:55.46 | user11156 | i`ll back again after some minutes :) |
| 19:56.16 | Lars_G_ | Altough, if they0're the SAME version, it could be possible for you to start your livecd gui, open a terminal, chroot to your hdd, and run synaptic from it |
| 19:56.21 | Lars_G_ | I'll brb too |
| 19:56.39 | user11156 | ok. i`ll check |
| 19:56.50 | Gavilan2 | Hi! I've just installed debian... I have some 2.6 kernel, and some 2.3 gnome... How to update everything to the latest stable version? |
| 19:57.25 | ikonia | why is mame in the non-free repo, I understand the games are not free/under license, but I thought mame it'self was free |
| 19:57.26 | zykotick9 | Gavilan2: if you installed squeeze, then those probably ARE the latest "stable" versions |
| 19:57.51 | Gavilan2 | yeah, gnome is from 2010... I think there surely is something "newer" and stable... |
| 19:57.57 | Gavilan2 | Unless the project is completely dead.... |
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| 19:58.44 | zykotick9 | ikonia: isn't the mame in debian xmame? i'd highly recommend installing sdlmame instead (it's a deb-multimedia package, or you could install manually). |
| 19:59.07 | ikonia | zykotick9 I'm looking at porting this properly to the pi |
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| 20:00.07 | zykotick9 | ikonia: sorry, i have 0 experinence with arm stuff. good luck. |
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| 20:00.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | Gavilan2, the definition of "stable" in context of Debian differs from what you think it is... |
| 20:00.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, tell Gavilan2 about stable |
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| 20:00.17 | Pei | how do you change the default browser for x? |
| 20:00.22 | ikonia | zykotick9: your opinion / advice is still valid |
| 20:00.26 | Pei | in debian anyways |
| 20:00.31 | ikonia | zykotick9: I'm assuming you're suggesting the xmame-sdl package |
| 20:00.52 | Gavilan2 | CutMeOwnThroat: I want something secure, with no security holes, with cool functionality, but without many errors.... |
| 20:01.10 | zykotick9 | ikonia: ya, sdl mame is a lot more up-to-date then xmame (i'm not even sure xmame is even developed anymore?) |
| 20:01.11 | Pei | GabrieleV: for? |
| 20:01.22 | ikonia | zykotick9: very good information for me to know, thank you |
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| 20:02.18 | Pei | GabrieleV: lxde works pretty well i hear |
| 20:02.19 | ikonia | zykotick9: ah, xmame-sdl has a dependency on"mame", |
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| 20:02.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | Gavilan2, if you want something newer, you can upgrade to the current "testing" of Debian, which will hopefully release to become stable soonish. Note that testing/wheezy doesn't have the type of security update model that stable has |
| 20:02.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, tell Gavilan2 about wheezy security |
| 20:03.03 | zykotick9 | ikonia: doesn't "shock" me. ;) it probably uses xmame for some of the backend work, i'd guess. |
| 20:03.19 | ikonia | zykotick9: actually, it looks like stock "mame" as the base |
| 20:03.24 | ikonia | there is a seperate xmame package |
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| 20:06.17 | zykotick9 | ikonia: sorry, i don't have contrib/non-free on my boxes (anymore) so i can't easily check on what package(s) are involved. i'm guessing you'll find the "mame" package is really "xmame" (the mame for gnu/linux). |
| 20:07.05 | ikonia | zykotick9: you've been more than helpful, I'm hopeful it's not xmame but we'll see when I finish tracing the dependencies |
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| 20:08.28 | zykotick9 | ikonia: i'm a liar, i do have non-free on my HTPC. and ya, looks like there is a xmame-sdl port in debian non-free :) that should be good then. |
| 20:08.56 | ikonia | zykotick9: check the depds on xmame-sdl |
| 20:08.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | ikonia, it's non-free because of... look at http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 20:09.12 | zykotick9 | ikonia: mame ;) |
| 20:09.56 | ikonia | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks |
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| 20:10.57 | zykotick9 | ikonia: "apt-cache show mame" mentions a "Breaks: sdlmame", so maybe, sdlmame and xmame-sdl are different :| |
| 20:11.21 | ikonia | zykotick9: it looks a little messy at a glance. |
| 20:12.01 | user11552 | re. i`m with problem with X. i check about versions about nvidia packages |
| 20:12.36 | user11552 | i have i nvidia_kernel-2.6.32-5-amd64 and pi nvidia-kernel-dkms |
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| 20:19.07 | ctmjr | user11552: you need to be a little bit more specific about your problem |
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| 20:19.59 | user11552 | i wrote some time ago and make reboot. 1 person ask me to check about versions of this 2 packages |
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| 20:20.18 | user11552 | if fact i perform apt-get update (55 updates) |
| 20:20.32 | user11552 | after reboot my system can`t start X |
| 20:20.48 | abrotman | user11552: we would have to know 'uname -r' also |
| 20:20.58 | user11552 | but i can`t show now log file, because i use console irc |
| 20:21.11 | user11552 | 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 20:21.50 | user11552 | there is 1 command that can paste output to paste.debian.net but i don`t know the right sintaxis |
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| 20:22.24 | user11552 | m. i do it :) |
| 20:22.42 | user11552 | paste.debian.net/237530/ |
| 20:22.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's called pastebinit :) |
| 20:22.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | seems you found it |
| 20:22.53 | user11552 | yes yes. i found it :) |
| 20:23.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | but yeah, saw that before |
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| 20:23.36 | user11552 | but other people don`t know the begining.... |
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| 20:24.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | pi is strange. means it's installed but scheduled to be purged? |
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| 20:24.57 | user11552 | to perform something? |
| 20:25.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | purge == remove including configuration file |
| 20:25.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | s |
| 20:25.21 | tremon | it's the other war around iirc (state, action) |
| 20:25.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | not on my dpkg in squeeze, that goes : Desired, Status, Err |
| 20:26.08 | tremon | ok guess dpkg knows better :) |
| 20:26.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | as I keep forgetting, I checked before interpreting :) |
| 20:27.19 | user11552 | what cause my problem and how to fix it? |
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| 20:27.51 | HS^ | damn |
| 20:27.55 | HS^ | apt-get never breaks |
| 20:28.12 | HS^ | i dont know who maintains all those packages but im impressed |
| 20:28.13 | tremon | most people consider that a good thing |
| 20:28.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | user11552, and you said the nvidia kernel module is loaded and you still get this? |
| 20:28.20 | HS^ | i remember freebsd ports |
| 20:28.24 | HS^ | always giving me errors |
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| 20:28.43 | user11552 | moment to remove and load it |
| 20:29.17 | Gavilan2 | Hey! How do I update my debian to use the last "testing" kernel and gnome and all that stuff? |
| 20:29.38 | user11552 | i do rmmod nvidia and then modprobe nvidia without errors, but if i try to start X it will give me error |
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| 20:30.32 | abrotman | !tell Gavilan2 about squeeze->wheezy |
| 20:30.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | user11552, what new messages do you get in dmesg when you load it? |
| 20:31.49 | user11552 | paste.debian.net/237534/ it this right and enought? |
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| 20:32.09 | Gavilan2 | ok, let's rephrase... I don't want any alpha or beta version... I want to have the latest release, that is supposed to be 100% secure, and with all the proper fixes... How do I get that for kernel, gnome, and all that stuff? |
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| 20:34.13 | abrotman | Gavilan2: you use squeeze |
| 20:34.46 | Devastator | Gavilan2 backports? |
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| 20:35.04 | Gavilan2 | how do I do that? |
| 20:35.06 | Gavilan2 | what is a backport? |
| 20:35.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | user11552, yeah... and doesn't look like there are any problems there |
| 20:35.35 | ompaul | !tell Gavilan2 about backports |
| 20:35.53 | user11552 | may be. but when i use startx it give me error |
| 20:36.05 | abrotman | except that backports don't really have security support |
| 20:36.23 | Gavilan2 | abrotman: What's the latest release released for general use by the public? |
| 20:36.26 | Gavilan2 | that's what I want... |
| 20:36.43 | ompaul | squeeze |
| 20:36.44 | Gavilan2 | something which has all the latest fixes, all the latest security updates, but nothing dangerous, or broken, or beta |
| 20:36.46 | Gavilan2 | ok |
| 20:36.49 | Gavilan2 | how do I get that? |
| 20:36.54 | Gavilan2 | for kernel, gnome, and all those things? |
| 20:37.13 | ompaul | Gavilan2: go to http://www.debian.org and download the cd and start by installing that |
| 20:37.37 | ompaul | then come back and we'll tell you more when you have more specific questions |
| 20:38.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | user11552, and this shows, the nvidia-part of xorg is installed? --> dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-nvidia |
| 20:39.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | should say ii .... |
| 20:39.03 | Gavilan2 | which cd? |
| 20:39.39 | user11552 | un xserver-xorg-v <none> |
| 20:41.00 | user11552 | apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nvidia? |
| 20:41.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | user11552, good idea :) |
| 20:41.36 | user11552 | :) |
| 20:41.39 | user11552 | i`ll try |
| 20:43.14 | ompaul | Gavilan2: either cd1 or netinstall, the latter as it hints requires your computer be connected to the internet. This is all documented on the web site. |
| 20:44.54 | user11552 | paste.debian.net/237536/ |
| 20:45.35 | user11552 | i have libgl1-*-glx |
| 20:46.10 | Gavilan2 | ompaul: what about cd2 and cd3? |
| 20:46.26 | Gavilan2 | or dvd2 and dvd3? |
| 20:46.33 | Gavilan2 | I just want debian + firefox + pidigin |
| 20:46.36 | Gavilan2 | I don't need anything more |
| 20:46.43 | ompaul | Gavilan2: do you have a full time internet connection |
| 20:46.49 | Gavilan2 | yes |
| 20:46.52 | ompaul | then you don't need it |
| 20:46.57 | Gavilan2 | ok |
| 20:47.14 | Gavilan2 | so, http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-dvd/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso |
| 20:47.24 | zykotick9 | Gavilan2: you'll find firefox is called iceweasel in debian |
| 20:47.26 | Gavilan2 | or http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-CD-1.iso ? |
| 20:47.32 | ompaul | wonders how you got there when you were told about Squeeze |
| 20:47.38 | ompaul | that's not squeeze |
| 20:47.46 | Gavilan2 | what is squeeze? |
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| 20:48.37 | ompaul | Gavilan2: http://www.debian.org/releases/ |
| 20:48.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions libgl1-nvidia-glx |
| 20:48.43 | judd | Package: libgl1-nvidia-glx on i386 -- squeeze-proposed-updates/non-free: 195.36.31-6squeeze1; squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6squeeze2; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+2; sid/non-free: 304.64-4; wheezy/non-free: 304.64-4; experimental/non-free: 313.18-2 |
| 20:49.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | user11552, did you used to have backports in your /etc/apt/sources.list, but don't anymore? |
| 20:49.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions nvidia-alternative |
| 20:49.59 | judd | Package: nvidia-alternative on i386 -- squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+2; sid/non-free: 304.64-4; wheezy/non-free: 304.64-4; experimental/non-free: 313.18-2 |
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| 20:50.06 | ompaul | CutMeOwnThroat: or not debian ... |
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| 20:50.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | ompaul?? libgl1-nvidia-glx (= 295.59-1~bpo60+2) sounds very debianish to me, actually |
| 20:51.06 | user11552 | still have backports in squeeze-updates |
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| 20:51.20 | ompaul | CutMeOwnThroat: fair point, well made! ;-) |
| 20:51.34 | Gavilan2 | So, do I get http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.6/amd64/iso-cd/debian-6.0.6-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 20:51.41 | Gavilan2 | or http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.6/amd64/iso-cd/debian-6.0.6-amd64-CD-1.iso ? |
| 20:52.07 | ompaul | Gavilan2: how fast is your internet connection? |
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| 20:52.20 | Gavilan2 | ompaul: fast probably... |
| 20:52.26 | Gavilan2 | I don't care how long it takes to install |
| 20:52.28 | dvs | probably? |
| 20:52.33 | Gavilan2 | 12 Mbps |
| 20:52.36 | Gavilan2 | supposedly.... |
| 20:52.37 | ompaul | wonders what the speed of a probably is |
| 20:52.41 | ompaul | ahh |
| 20:52.58 | ompaul | use the netinst the time taken to burn and so on and download works out in the end |
| 20:53.09 | Gavilan2 | ok |
| 20:53.10 | Gavilan2 | thanks |
| 20:53.22 | ompaul | Gavilan2: clue 1) make sure you use a bit of wire to connect it makes everything else easier |
| 20:53.40 | Gavilan2 | I do use wire |
| 20:53.42 | ompaul | clue 2) don't just use wireless because it's available that would be harder |
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| 20:54.30 | ridvan | hello my wireless stopped working the output says http://pastebin.com/TJUtL2BD |
| 20:54.48 | Gavilan2 | what kernel does the 6.0.6 comes with? and what gnome? |
| 20:55.09 | ridvan | is there an easy way to fix this or is there a need for new drivers |
| 20:55.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | user11552, re-run "apt-get update" and try again... if still doesn't work, see if "aptitude why-not libgl1-nvidia-glx" (and the same for nvidia-alternative) gives some useful hint |
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| 20:55.52 | user11552 | apt-get update says that there isn`t new updates |
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| 20:56.06 | ompaul | Gavilan2: /msg judd kernel and /msg judd verstions gnome |
| 20:57.35 | user11552 | it`s strange. libgl**** conflicts libgl**** |
| 20:57.52 | user11552 | 1 package make conflict with itself.... |
| 20:57.56 | Gavilan2 | squeeze seems kind of old.... |
| 20:58.48 | ompaul | Gavilan2: happy dots too you too, you asked for something, I replied with the defined version as YOU defined it, if you don't understand what you asked for why did you bother asking the way you did? |
| 20:58.52 | user11552 | for nv-alternative it can`t fin reason for removing it |
| 20:59.18 | ompaul | resits humans 101 |
| 21:00.26 | user11552 | i remove libgl** and try to install nv-alternative but it want libgl**** |
| 21:00.31 | Gavilan2 | ompaul: I understand what I asked for... |
| 21:00.46 | Gavilan2 | The problem is that it seems that debian takes a looooooooooot of time to "stable" it's releases O_o |
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| 21:00.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | user11552, what does the whole error from it say? |
| 21:01.14 | ompaul | Gavilan2: gentoo is five channels over on the left if that is what you want |
| 21:01.30 | Gavilan2 | I want a free Mac Os |
| 21:01.32 | user11552 | i can`t understand your question |
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| 21:01.33 | Gavilan2 | do you have one? :) |
| 21:01.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | user11552, hm, or try "aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-nvidia" aptitude has the better dependency conflict resolver |
| 21:01.41 | user11552 | which error? |
| 21:01.46 | ompaul | no but I have /ignore |
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| 21:01.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | user11552, that one: <user11552> it`s strange. libgl**** conflicts libgl**** |
| 21:02.03 | user11552 | ok. i`ll try |
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| 21:03.28 | HS^ | Gavilan2 but its good for server to have stable software |
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| 21:03.52 | HS^ | i use windows on desktop |
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| 21:04.25 | user11552 | it ask to keep versions of 5 not installed packages and to leave unresolved dependicies for glx-diversions reccomends glx-alternative-mesa |
| 21:04.35 | user11552 | to accept it? |
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| 21:11.06 | thomaschaaf | Do you guys know I can make/receive calls using a 3g sticks on linux if the sim card supports it? |
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| 21:11.31 | Walex | thomaschaaf: yes some of us know |
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| 21:12.05 | Walex | thomaschaaf: and web search engines know too :-) |
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| 21:12.24 | thomaschaaf | I could only find umtsmon and that seems to not support calls |
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| 21:15.36 | Walex | thomaschaaf: the USB stick is a USB modem with the standard AT command set... |
| 21:16.38 | Walex | thomaschaaf: there are a couple of subtle details: mos sticks need to be switched into permanent modem mode with a little utility, and the 'option' USB modem module needs to be used. Then one uses 'pppd' as if it were a phone line modem. |
| 21:17.46 | Walex | thomaschaaf: this is an example HOWTO for a specific type of modem, but nearly all use the same way:http://mebubo.github.com/2011/10/13/using-huawei-e1550-3g-modem-in-debian.html |
| 21:18.23 | thomaschaaf | I am actually woundering something else. I need a very light data connection and calling cellphones is free for me. I wanted to have one modem call the other and establish a network connection. Is this possible with existing tools? |
| 21:18.23 | Walex | and the "official" Wiki page: http://wiki.debian.org/Modem/3G |
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| 21:19.15 | Walex | thomaschaaf: most likely yes if you can persuade your network operator to allow incoming data calls to your cellphone |
| 21:19.20 | thomaschaaf | Basically the old dial up as we know it just that instead of the client calling a server the server calls the client. |
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| 21:20.06 | thomaschaaf | Walex: how would they know isn't this just a regular call for them just that instead of voice its just dial up tones? |
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| 21:21.06 | Walex | thomaschaaf: if you want to use an analog modem with a cell phone, you have an even simpler task: persuade a cellphone manufacturer to put an RJ45 socket on one :-) |
| 21:21.49 | Walex | thomaschaaf: then you need to persuade your network operator to not compress your voice conversations |
| 21:22.07 | jhutchins_wk | Walex: Um, an RJ45 is usually used for Cat5-6 ethernet. |
| 21:22.17 | Walex | RJ11 or whatever... |
| 21:22.36 | thomaschaaf | Walex: the compression may be a problem but just means that the badwidth it slightly worst. |
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| 21:23.45 | Walex | thomaschaaf: admittedly you could use an acoustic coupler to remove the need for a phone socket in your mobile phone... |
| 21:24.10 | Walex | wonders where to find acoustic couplers today, and whether mobile phone audio is good enough. |
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| 21:24.22 | jhutchins_wk | Walex: That would connect it to a phone line. How about an RS232 Serial? |
| 21:24.22 | Walex | thomaschaaf: GSM compression is pretty brutal... |
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| 21:25.08 | jhutchins_wk | You could use an old accoustic coupled modem! |
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| 21:25.35 | jhutchins_wk | Or just feed the output of a modem to the headphone jack of the phone. |
| 21:26.17 | jhutchins_wk | And yes, it would be possible to get a connection between two modems over cell phones. Or CB radio, or ham. |
| 21:26.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | Walex, you could use a voice saying "one" and "zero" :) |
| 21:26.32 | thomaschaaf | well what I have is a computer and I wanted to buy a usb modem like this: http://images.computerwoche.de/images/computerwoche/bdb/1844996/890.jpg and put it inside of it. Then I wanted the modem inside that computer to wait for a call. As soon as it calls it makes the connection and then I basically have free (really low quality) internet. |
| 21:26.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | s/you/he/ |
| 21:26.57 | jhutchins_wk | RFC 1149 FTW! |
| 21:27.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | jhutchins_wk, I only suggested RFC1149 to someone yesterday! |
| 21:27.51 | thomaschaaf | well that was the basic idea now I wounder if I can get a umts modem to do calling |
| 21:28.20 | jhutchins_wk | CutMeOwnThroat: That makes me smile, but doesn't even surprise me a little for someone with your nick. |
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| 21:35.01 | hyppias | How can i make a samba user? there is no smbpasswd... |
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| 21:35.49 | dvs | ,find smbpasswd |
| 21:35.54 | judd | Search for smbpasswd in squeeze/i386: samba-common-bin: usr/bin/smbpasswd; samba: usr/sbin/mksmbpasswd; freeradius: etc/freeradius/modules/smbpasswd; samba-dbg: usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/smbpasswd |
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| 21:37.51 | hyppias | judd there is a lot of smb in /usr/bin, but no smbpasswd |
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| 21:40.07 | nvz | so I'm sitting here with two thinkpads and I was thinking of just running the one diskless off the other.. I was about to debootstrap another install on the server to boot on the client.. |
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| 21:40.25 | nvz | then I had a crazy idea.. is there any reason I can't just use the rootfs of the server as the rootfs on the client? |
| 21:40.42 | coffeecup | is it possible to forward all traffic from one domain through a vm to another vm? for example.. www.mydom.com -> vm0 with eth0 public ip xx.xx.xx.. and eth1 private ip 192.168.0.1 -> should forward to vm2 with private ip 192.168.0.2 ? can this be done with dns ? |
| 21:40.52 | nvz | seems like the only thing I need is a separate initramfs image for the client |
| 21:40.58 | hyppias | judd: ah had to install samba-common-bin |
| 21:41.13 | dvs | !prize hyppias |
| 21:41.13 | dpkg | gives hyppias a medal. |
| 21:41.52 | wsky | !botsnack |
| 21:41.52 | dpkg | wsky: :) |
| 21:41.54 | nvz | and perhaps a separate /etc/ /dev/ and /tmp of course but /dev/ and /tmp would be virtual anyhow |
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| 21:43.18 | nvz | just seems to me that most of that stuff is read-only for the most part anyhow and really I want to have the same programs on both.. so.. seems like its doable to me. |
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| 21:43.59 | nvz | would need a separate homedir too.. |
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| 21:53.52 | b2coutts | does GRUB autodetect bootable partitions, or do I have to manually reconfigure it to recognize a newly installed OS? |
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| 21:55.45 | dvs | b2coutts: os-prober automatically detects bootable partitions |
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| 21:57.28 | b2coutts | dvs: so, in fdisk, I should turn on the bootable flag for every OS partition? |
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| 21:58.05 | dvs | b2coutts: no, just the one grub boots to. |
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| 21:58.21 | tremon | actually, just the one you installed grub in |
| 21:58.30 | b2coutts | dvs: so I don't have to do anything for os-prober to know that bootable partitions are bootable? |
| 21:58.32 | tremon | bootable partitions are a relic |
| 21:58.37 | dvs | b2coutts: nope |
| 21:58.49 | zykotick9 | b2coutts: dvs tremon i didn't think boot flag was used by grub2 |
| 21:59.44 | tremon | zykotick9: which is basically what I said. you only need the bootable flag if you installed grub2 in a partition instead of the mbr |
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| 22:00.26 | zykotick9 | tremon: ahh, i gotcha. i've only ever used mbr. |
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| 22:01.01 | tremon | well I wasn't exactly clear in what I said |
| 22:01.04 | tremon | :) |
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| 22:16.15 | stefan__ | when I do ssh root@host.com it does not ask me for password |
| 22:16.21 | stefan__ | only ask me to confirm fingerprint |
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| 22:16.43 | ompaul | stefan__: after that? |
| 22:16.55 | stefan__ | nothing |
| 22:17.01 | stefan__ | When I try to enter password, its blank |
| 22:17.07 | ompaul | and then you press enter |
| 22:17.17 | tremon | a properly configured server should not allow root logins anyway |
| 22:17.17 | ompaul | you don't usually get anything echoed |
| 22:17.19 | stefan__ | I use us mirrors tho which I far, but I guess that is not problem |
| 22:17.32 | stefan__ | This one is actually mine server |
| 22:17.33 | ompaul | tremon: assumption in the way forward here ;-) |
| 22:17.35 | stefan__ | and it does allow root |
| 22:17.49 | stefan__ | Do I need to be root from my machine to login |
| 22:17.50 | ompaul | s/in/is |
| 22:17.51 | stefan__ | or as user is fine? |
| 22:18.00 | ompaul | user is ok |
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| 22:18.18 | ompaul | do ssh -VVV user@machine and read the output |
| 22:18.29 | stefan__ | oh sna |
| 22:18.29 | stefan__ | p |
| 22:18.35 | stefan__ | When I do ssh, is it set default port 22? |
| 22:18.58 | ompaul | stefan__: ehhh -vvv actually |
| 22:19.00 | ompaul | stefan__: yes |
| 22:19.21 | stefan__ | alien -i package-name.rpm |
| 22:19.28 | stefan__ | oops |
| 22:19.29 | stefan__ | debug3: authmethod_is_enabled gssapi-with-mic |
| 22:19.29 | stefan__ | debug1: Next authentication method: gssapi-with-mic |
| 22:19.38 | ompaul | stefan__: alien is bad for your health |
| 22:19.42 | ompaul | !alien |
| 22:19.42 | dpkg | i guess alien is a program which allows one to convert from one package format to another: slackware to redhat, redhat to Debian, Debian to slackware, redhat to slackware, etc. http://kitenet.net/programs/alien/ |
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| 22:20.06 | stefan__ | next debug1: Unspecified GSS failure. Minor code may provide more information |
| 22:20.06 | stefan__ | Credentials cache file '/tmp/krb5cc_1000' not found |
| 22:20.18 | stefan__ | When I enter password , its not masked as chars **** |
| 22:20.25 | stefan__ | nor it does anything, what it can be? |
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| 22:20.47 | tremon | it can be that you're mixing distributions? |
| 22:20.54 | psichas | hi all, is program mount and unmount partitions for debian on the xfce? |
| 22:21.06 | stefan__ | tremon, what/ |
| 22:21.07 | ompaul | stefan__: why did you install ssh from redhat on debian? |
| 22:21.12 | ompaul | or try to |
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| 22:21.37 | ompaul | psichas: you can mount and umount on the command line if you can't find the icon |
| 22:21.39 | stefan__ | I didnt |
| 22:21.42 | stefan__ | Also it work but with delay |
| 22:21.51 | ompaul | alien -i package-name.rpm |
| 22:21.53 | stefan__ | I had this problem befoer 2 years ago but i frgot solution |
| 22:21.56 | ompaul | that's not a good idea |
| 22:22.23 | psichas | ompaul, but i would like gui app |
| 22:23.01 | ompaul | psichas: like and works - I~ don't know the desktop environment in question so I'm telling you what I know - you'll ahve to wait for someone who knows it |
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| 22:25.50 | tremon | stefan__: you haven't really given us any information that will help up help you. what OS and version on the client, and on the server? have you already tried different clients or different servers? If you do debugging such as ssh -v, paste the full output not just one line that you think is worth mentioning |
| 22:26.01 | tremon | !paste |
| 22:26.01 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 22:32.41 | stefan__ | do I need sshd to remote login? |
| 22:32.56 | Nik05 | yes |
| 22:32.57 | frikandel | hello guys i am really noob and i build in a 2nd networkcard but per accident i deleted the first in openmediavault how can i get that networkcard working again ? |
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| 22:33.21 | stefan__ | Nik05, I did it |
| 22:33.31 | stefan__ | restarted and put UseDNS no in sshd_config and retarted again |
| 22:33.33 | stefan__ | not helped. |
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| 22:33.53 | Nik05 | whats not working? |
| 22:34.07 | frikandel | my lan card |
| 22:34.11 | Nik05 | sshd listens on port 22 |
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| 22:34.43 | thinkerweb | I used to use streamer with my webcam, and now I am getting an error: Oops: can't count up file names any more |
| 22:35.08 | stefan__ | Nik05, I know but I get slow ssh password delay |
| 22:35.32 | Nik05 | what do you mean with delay? |
| 22:35.47 | Nik05 | between what? |
| 22:36.48 | stefan__ | me and remote server |
| 22:37.18 | thinkerweb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:37.20 | thinkerweb | mind |
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| 22:51.18 | stefan__ | both cards are recognised in sound preferences |
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| 22:52.23 | ross` | W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/Release Unable to find expected entry unstable/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) |
| 22:52.29 | ross` | is squeeze no longer supported? |
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| 22:53.06 | EmleyMoor | squeeze is still the "stable" release. wheezy will replace it soon, though |
| 22:53.16 | ross` | how do i fix that then |
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| 22:53.47 | ompaul | wait six hours or change the repo |
| 22:53.49 | stefan__ | any help for me? |
| 22:53.56 | ross` | um... |
| 22:53.58 | ross` | my repo is.. |
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| 22:54.14 | ross` | http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian |
| 22:54.23 | EmleyMoor | ross`: Change it, or wait six hours. That's your answer. |
| 22:54.28 | ompaul | ross`: as I said - wait six hours or change it |
| 22:54.33 | ross` | i've had this problem for three weeks |
| 22:54.40 | ross` | i don't think another six hours is going to do anything |
| 22:54.46 | jcapik | Hello guys. |
| 22:54.48 | ompaul | ross`: then you got something wrong in the way its setup |
| 22:54.48 | EmleyMoor | Well, try changing it, then... |
| 22:54.58 | ross` | so how do i go about fixing that then |
| 22:55.02 | ross` | what should i change it to |
| 22:55.03 | ross` | ? |
| 22:55.04 | EmleyMoor | Paste your sources.list to a pastebin |
| 22:55.08 | ross` | what is a good mirror for massachusetts |
| 22:55.29 | ross` | my sources.list is default besides including: main contrib unstable backports |
| 22:55.38 | ross` | for the default repo |
| 22:55.41 | ompaul | ross`: it doesn't work like that - dear me that is wrong deb http://ftp.ie.debian.org/debian/ |
| 22:55.52 | ompaul | main and unstable ane backports shouldn't be mixed |
| 22:55.56 | jcapik | Can anybody tell me who currently maintains the fakeroot package in debian? |
| 22:56.05 | ompaul | ross`: you got a partial sid box |
| 22:56.09 | Nik05 | jcapik check the site |
| 22:56.12 | ompaul | ross`: do you want to try and fix this? |
| 22:56.16 | ross` | W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.ie.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/Release Unable to find expected entry unstable/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) |
| 22:56.19 | ross` | problem not fixed |
| 22:56.36 | ross` | ompaul: yes, please tell me how |
| 22:56.41 | tremon | jcapik: http://packages.qa.debian.org/f/fakeroot.html |
| 22:56.44 | ross` | so, if i am using unstable |
| 22:56.46 | ross` | should i not use main? |
| 22:56.48 | jcapik | Nik05: I've already checked the site ..... I also checked the AUTHORS in the sources |
| 22:56.51 | ompaul | ross`: I will if you will follow - you can use that |
| 22:56.59 | ompaul | but you want main from sid or squeeze |
| 22:57.03 | ompaul | but not both |
| 22:57.11 | ross` | should i just upgrade my distro? |
| 22:57.11 | ompaul | ross`: so here is one part |
| 22:57.17 | ross` | from squeeze to something bette |
| 22:57.23 | ross` | i want newer package versiosn to be honest |
| 22:57.24 | jcapik | But 2 of the guys have nonexistent email address |
| 22:57.25 | Nik05 | jcapik packages.debian.org |
| 22:57.31 | jcapik | and Clint Adams doesn't respond |
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| 22:57.37 | ompaul | ross`: there isn't better |
| 22:57.54 | ompaul | ross`: do you want me to advise you or are you going to give me 25 questions preempting my advise>? |
| 22:57.55 | ross` | i want a newer version of rtorrent, is there a different repo that has a newer versio |
| 22:57.56 | xander_ | I want to install debian from usb stick but it says debian iso not found |
| 22:58.02 | ross` | ompaul: yes, tell me what to do |
| 22:58.05 | jcapik | tremon: thanks |
| 22:58.18 | jcapik | tremon: i see Clint Adams as the only maintainer |
| 22:58.47 | ompaul | ross`: do this pastebin into http://paste.debian.net your /etc/apt/sources.list please |
| 22:58.56 | EmleyMoor | ross`: First off, paste your sources.list to a pastebin so we can actually see what you've attempted... |
| 22:59.04 | jcapik | Does anybody know Clint Adams? |
| 22:59.09 | Nik05 | no |
| 22:59.16 | jcapik | Is it possible to catch him online here? |
| 22:59.26 | ross` | it is default besides what i pasted.. and now changed us to ie, but fine.. |
| 22:59.41 | xander_ | I copied the netinst iso on the usb stick |
| 22:59.55 | ompaul | ross`: paste all the file into that paste.debian.net please |
| 22:59.57 | ross` | http://paste.debian.net/237583/http://paste.debian.net/237583/ |
| 22:59.58 | EmleyMoor | ross`: Never mind "it is default besides..." anything, we need to actually see it |
| 22:59.59 | ross` | http://paste.debian.net/237583/ |
| 23:00.00 | ross` | oops |
| 23:00.16 | Nik05 | jcapik his email is on debian.org |
| 23:00.34 | Nik05 | but what do you want to ask? |
| 23:00.50 | EmleyMoor | That first line is badly wrong - unstable and backports specified like that won't work. |
| 23:00.58 | ross` | okayw |
| 23:01.01 | ross` | what do you suggest then |
| 23:01.02 | ross` | ? |
| 23:01.09 | ross` | what do i get rid of |
| 23:01.17 | ompaul | ross`: do this http://paste.debian.net/237584/ then do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
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| 23:01.23 | Nik05 | of the unstable and backports :P |
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| 23:01.55 | psichas | deleted /media/.hal-mtab-lock what's bad? |
| 23:01.56 | ompaul | ross`: when it is done if you have a new kernel installed reboot it, I'd almost suggest reboot anyway, and then if the box is behaving state your real question |
| 23:02.01 | ross` | do i need non-free for updates? |
| 23:02.05 | EmleyMoor | Get your system consistent, then explain the inadequacy and we may be able to find you a way around it... |
| 23:02.09 | ross` | hmm, oh wait |
| 23:02.14 | ross` | this will redo my kernel? |
| 23:02.15 | EmleyMoor | ross`: Are you using/needing any non-free? |
| 23:02.16 | Nik05 | no ross |
| 23:02.19 | xander_ | I cant install debian |
| 23:02.23 | ross` | i am using a xen vps on a hosting provider |
| 23:02.27 | ross` | i think a new kernel would fuck up the domU |
| 23:02.27 | Nik05 | but if you need some non-free firmware |
| 23:02.29 | ompaul | ross`: then you talk to them |
| 23:02.34 | psichas | deleted /media/.hal-mtab-lock what's bad? |
| 23:02.36 | ompaul | ross`: you don't ask us |
| 23:02.42 | ross` | kk |
| 23:02.48 | ompaul | ross`: we can help you with generic stuff - |
| 23:03.02 | ompaul | but if they have given you stuff it may be locked in some strange way |
| 23:03.07 | ross` | all good |
| 23:03.08 | ross` | thanks |
| 23:03.11 | ross` | the problemis fixed |
| 23:03.17 | dvs | ompaul: why us instead of ie? |
| 23:03.19 | ompaul | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:03.36 | ompaul | dvs: because his initial statement suggested he was having repo issues |
| 23:03.46 | dvs | ah |
| 23:03.48 | ompaul | but it transpired he was having file issue - bad file |
| 23:04.11 | ompaul | but in the US that .ie. server is generally very very fast unless you have a rubbish isp |
| 23:04.17 | jcapik | Nik05: I tried his email, but he doesn't respond |
| 23:04.33 | ross` | i am comcast, it's comcastic, which means mediocre but working. |
| 23:04.33 | ompaul | dvs: that place is also very fast across .eu |
| 23:04.37 | jcapik | Nik05: I discovered an issue |
| 23:04.41 | ross` | s/am/have/ |
| 23:04.54 | jcapik | Nik05: wrong permissions/broken symlinks when building in fakeroot |
| 23:04.54 | ompaul | ross`: that's not going to influence your xen hosted vps |
| 23:05.08 | EmleyMoor | Ireland is generally an OK choice in north America and Europe |
| 23:05.37 | ompaul | EmleyMoor: .ie. is like a Janet or some such but with a lot less traffic |
| 23:05.38 | EmleyMoor | (have used it myself occasionally, if uk breaks{ |
| 23:05.44 | Nik05 | jcapik report a bug |
| 23:05.54 | Towzzer | the only problem with ireland is the food |
| 23:05.57 | ompaul | is showing his age |
| 23:06.02 | ompaul | Towzzer: that's offtopic |
| 23:06.06 | jcapik | Nik05: i wanted to do a troubleshooting with him |
| 23:06.21 | Nik05 | file a bug report |
| 23:06.35 | jcapik | Nik05: I use fakeroot in a different distro |
| 23:06.37 | Nik05 | then everyone can read it |
| 23:06.56 | Nik05 | oh so what are you doing here? |
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| 23:07.20 | jcapik | Nik05: searching for help? |
| 23:07.41 | Nik05 | about debian or? |
| 23:07.49 | jcapik | Nik05: nope .... fakeroot |
| 23:08.27 | one23 | When there is a proxy in network, will apt-get use it automatically (zeroconf)? |
| 23:08.45 | jcapik | Nik05: Clint Adams is the fakeroot admin (upstream) |
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| 23:09.34 | jcapik | Nik05: and he apparently maintains the package in debian |
| 23:09.58 | Nik05 | did you check if there already is a bug report? |
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| 23:10.53 | jcapik | Nik05: Not yet |
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| 23:17.32 | jcapik | Nik05: One bug looks related, thanks for hints |
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| 23:20.53 | Nik05 | jcapik nice you want to fix the bug, not sure how bug reports work |
| 23:21.08 | Nik05 | especially cause you dont use debian |
| 23:21.30 | jcapik | Nik05: I have debian for testing ... |
| 23:21.49 | Nik05 | oh ok |
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| 23:23.02 | jcapik | Nik05: The bug report was created 4 years ago |
| 23:23.12 | jcapik | Nik05: and nobody touched it yet |
| 23:23.36 | jcapik | Nik05: I'm curious if debian build systems use fakeroot or not |
| 23:23.36 | Nik05 | oh nice :P |
| 23:23.53 | jcapik | Nik05: because it's a pretty nasty bug |
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| 23:24.59 | Nik05 | well if you have more information on it and maybe a patch |
| 23:25.35 | Nik05 | you reply to the bugreport but i dont know how those work :) |
| 23:25.44 | jcapik | Nik05: as this seems to be a race condition and a matter of fakeroot design, it might be difficult to fix that |
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| 23:28.07 | HS^ | is a vps image the same size as the space in use on the hd? or compressed |
| 23:28.48 | HS^ | hm wrong chan |
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| 23:31.26 | tremon | Nik05, jcapik: you can just send a mail to nnnnnn@bugs.debian.org. It's the first link on every bugreport page :) |
| 23:31.50 | Nik05 | nnnnnn@ ? |
| 23:32.03 | tremon | yeah the actual bugreport number :) |
| 23:32.08 | Nik05 | oh :P |
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| 23:32.41 | Nik05 | but i think jcapik wants the maintainer to reply :P |
| 23:32.55 | Nik05 | thats going to be difficult :) |
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| 23:33.32 | jcapik | Nik05: tremon: exactly |
| 23:33.56 | jcapik | Writing something to 4 years old bug zombie doesn't have a sense |
| 23:34.07 | Nik05 | oh 6.0.7 released? |
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| 23:34.31 | tremon | I'd still try to use official channels, either through a bugreport page or a maintainers list |
| 23:34.43 | tremon | ask #debian-mentors for advice (on oftc.net) |
| 23:35.12 | jcapik | tremon: thx for tip |
| 23:36.34 | jcapik | tremon: This channel is no longer officially on freenode and has been forwarded to an 'about' channel (http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#termination). Please part and rejoin. Thanks. |
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| 23:36.55 | tremon | which is why I added (on oftc.net) |
| 23:37.19 | jcapik | tremon: sorry .... i'm blind :D |
| 23:37.27 | tremon | ;) |
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| 23:50.52 | one23 | should I use the inetd bootpd or the isc-dhcp-server bootp? |
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| 23:57.16 | NathanWW | i'm running lenny on a toughbook cf-27, mainly because when i install 6.0.6 i get a blank screen. i tryed the diffrent grub boot perams and still never got the video working. so i installed lenny wich works out of the box. now with lenny running on the laptop, is there somthing i can do to figure out the video chipset and to figure out what i need to do once i reinstall 6.0.6 to get video up |
| 23:57.16 | NathanWW | and working? any clues here. |
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| 23:58.16 | zykotick9 | NathanWW: "lspci | grep -i vga" |
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| 23:58.41 | bolt | trying to run debian on my toshiba 50ct. it has a whopping 32 megs of ram. squeeze just says "kernel panic - not syncing: out of memory and no killable processes" on boot. what's the latest debian i can use? |
| 23:59.53 | NathanWW | it gives vga compatible controler: silicon motion, inc. SM710 LynxEM rev A3 |
