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| 00:00.41 | shakaponk | abrotman: it's definitely supported, coz it worked on the previous installation |
| 00:01.36 | wsky | shakaponk: apt-cache show xserver-xorg-video radeon shows your chip as supported |
| 00:01.43 | wsky | at least in sid |
| 00:01.49 | wsky | what was your debian version again? |
| 00:02.00 | shakaponk | debian wheezy |
| 00:02.18 | abrotman | fresh install? |
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| 00:02.33 | wsky | shakaponk: http://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo#Supported_Cards |
| 00:02.42 | wsky | oops fail again :/ |
| 00:02.49 | wsky | http://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo |
| 00:03.12 | shakaponk | wsky: :-) thx i'll check it |
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| 00:03.31 | wsky | np |
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| 00:04.02 | Ubuh-Huntuh | anybody want to help me solve a mystery |
| 00:04.38 | Ubuh-Huntuh | where did my interface get its IPv6 address from? |
| 00:04.47 | abrotman | Ubuh-Huntuh: uname -r |
| 00:04.57 | wsky | :-d |
| 00:05.02 | Ubuh-Huntuh | 2.6.32-5-686 |
| 00:05.15 | Ubuh-Huntuh | eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:14:d1:25:ad:2f |
| 00:05.15 | Ubuh-Huntuh | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:05.15 | Ubuh-Huntuh | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:05.15 | Ubuh-Huntuh | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:05.22 | abrotman | smart one ... |
| 00:05.31 | Porto | Hi i try to install a deb package but that package doesn't compatible with my device how can i delete to not appear in apt-get upgrade ? |
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| 00:05.40 | abrotman | oh, you have a real one, and a fake one? |
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| 00:06.08 | abrotman | Ubuh-Huntuh: so what's the problem ? |
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| 00:06.35 | Ubuh-Huntuh | abrotman: i didn't configure the IPv6 address. i'm trying to find out where it comes from? |
| 00:06.39 | abrotman | either of them ? |
| 00:06.50 | Ubuh-Huntuh | i configured neither one |
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| 00:06.55 | Ubuh-Huntuh | i only configured the IPv4 |
| 00:06.56 | abrotman | so one is real, one is not |
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| 00:07.09 | abyxcos | wsky: Honestly, the kernel (or lack thereof) is the least of my concerns right now. |
| 00:07.39 | abrotman | Ubuh-Huntuh: one is from your ISP, the other is akin to a local-link address |
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| 00:08.04 | wsky | abyxcos: you'll get all info you need for configuring your ethernet in the lower-level debian way in the interfaces manual |
| 00:08.09 | abrotman | Ubuh-Huntuh: congrats, your ISP has entered the 00s |
| 00:08.34 | abyxcos | wsky: Aye, I'm reading through it. Things work swimmingly in a chroot. |
| 00:08.37 | Ubuh-Huntuh | abrotman: ok! |
| 00:09.03 | Ubuh-Huntuh | wsky: will check it out |
| 00:09.05 | wsky | abyxcos: you could also instal 'less' to make things easier |
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| 00:09.15 | abyxcos | wsky: Yea, I noticed that. |
| 00:09.27 | abyxcos | wsky: One would think that less should be part of the "base" system. |
| 00:09.40 | abrotman | Porto: dpkg -P <pkgname> |
| 00:09.44 | wsky | it's not up to me to decide |
| 00:09.48 | Ubuh-Huntuh | abrotman: so i'm guessing this one is the fake (local one): inet6 addr: fe80::214:d1ff:fe25:ad2f/64 Scope:Link |
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| 00:10.02 | Porto | great |
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| 00:10.17 | abrotman | Ubuh-Huntuh: it's not "fake" .. |
| 00:10.30 | abrotman | Ubuh-Huntuh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-local_address |
| 00:10.34 | abyxcos | wsky: Well, having non-functional man-pages is hardly a good idea. |
| 00:10.42 | Ubuh-Huntuh | ok |
| 00:10.45 | shaolinux | Porto did you solve your problem ? |
| 00:10.50 | abrotman | yes |
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| 00:10.56 | abyxcos | Man should point to cat * | gzip or something. |
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| 00:11.11 | abrotman | abyxcos: we can arrange that :) |
| 00:11.32 | Porto | yes :) |
| 00:11.36 | abyxcos | abrotman: Having a non-functional man (by the default install) is pretty unfriendly. |
| 00:11.39 | Porto | shaolinux ;) great |
| 00:11.44 | shaolinux | :) |
| 00:11.54 | abyxcos | abrotman: As 'man' simply returns 'less not found.' |
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| 00:12.08 | abrotman | abyxcos: that's because your pager points at less for some weird reason |
| 00:12.26 | abyxcos | "socket: Address family not supported by protocol - make sure CONFIG_PACKET (Packet socket) and CONFIG_FILTER (Socket Filtering) are enabled in your kernel configuration! |
| 00:12.28 | abrotman | abyxcos: ls -l /etc/alternatives/pager |
| 00:12.46 | abyxcos | abrotman: It is pointing at /bin/less. |
| 00:12.57 | abyxcos | abrotman: And http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap would be that reason. |
| 00:13.06 | abrotman | abyxcos: update-alternatives --config pager |
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| 00:13.16 | abrotman | abyxcos: so you don't have more either? |
| 00:13.21 | abrotman | eh .. 'more' |
| 00:13.41 | abyxcos | abrotman: I do. I'm not sure why pager doesn't default to that though. |
| 00:13.46 | abrotman | NFC .. |
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| 00:14.37 | abyxcos | What do people use as a dhcp client these days? |
| 00:14.44 | abrotman | isc-dhcp-client probably |
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| 00:16.13 | abyxcos | err, eth0: socket: Address family not supported by protocol |
| 00:16.22 | abyxcos | err, eth0: sendto: Bad file descriptor |
| 00:16.35 | abyxcos | So something is still broken, I'm not sure what that's pointing to. |
| 00:16.46 | abyxcos | I suspsect I'm still missing tools and/or files in /usr and /etc. |
| 00:16.58 | wsky | are you doing that in chroot? |
| 00:16.59 | abrotman | abyxcos:do yo uhave aptitude installed yet? |
| 00:17.09 | abyxcos | wsky: No, live. |
| 00:17.16 | abyxcos | abrotman: No. Just apt-get. |
| 00:17.27 | abrotman | abyxcos: can you iknstall aptitude |
| 00:17.27 | abrotman | ? |
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| 00:17.45 | abyxcos | abrotman: What are the advantages of installing aptitude? |
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| 00:18.29 | abrotman | abyxcos: aptitude install '~pstandard' for starters |
| 00:18.41 | technoid_ | abyxcos: aptitude search |
| 00:18.50 | abyxcos | apt-cache search, no? |
| 00:19.05 | wsky | T_T |
| 00:19.11 | abyxcos | It may also be the case that I don't actually have the kernel module in tree... |
| 00:19.19 | abyxcos | s/tree/filesystem/ |
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| 00:22.14 | abyxcos | abrotman: What does aptitude install '!pstandard' do? Can't find that in the manpage. |
| 00:22.46 | abrotman | abyxcos: it will install all standard priority packages |
| 00:25.04 | abyxcos | I suppose I should really install a kernel now? |
| 00:26.03 | wsky | up to you |
| 00:27.16 | abyxcos | It will be more tedious. I should probably copy over modules though. |
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| 00:32.14 | abyxcos | And of course the kernel install fails because grub trys to go and bugger up my system. |
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| 00:41.11 | abyxcos | Great. Now I can't install the kernel package, nor delete this half-installed kernel package. |
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| 00:44.05 | abrotman | abyxcos: paste.debian.net if you want to show us |
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| 00:58.56 | wsky | abyxcos: dpkg -force-all -r |
| 00:59.03 | abrotman | wtf |
| 00:59.10 | abrotman | how does that seem like a good idea? |
| 00:59.33 | wsky | well if his package is bit stuck |
| 00:59.43 | wsky | because of some reason |
| 00:59.49 | wsky | and blocks apt |
| 00:59.56 | wsky | and |
| 00:59.58 | abrotman | perhaps you should ask for a pastebin to see what's going on before blindly removing packages? |
| 01:00.02 | abrotman | just a thought |
| 01:00.12 | wsky | i'm not blind |
| 01:00.24 | wsky | and this was just a hint |
| 01:00.26 | abrotman | so you've seen his problem? |
| 01:00.29 | wsky | yep |
| 01:00.32 | abrotman | you know exactly what's happening? |
| 01:00.37 | wsky | not exactly |
| 01:00.41 | abrotman | you know the package versions? you know the error? |
| 01:00.51 | wsky | but there is large probability |
| 01:01.25 | themill | wsky: every time you use --force with dpkg, someone kills a kitten. It might well be necessary but good to really check whether it is or not. |
| 01:01.34 | wsky | who cares |
| 01:01.38 | wsky | about kittens |
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| 01:02.35 | wsky | except satan |
| 01:03.00 | abrotman | wsky: don't be harmful to someone else's system |
| 01:03.06 | wsky | i am not |
| 01:03.08 | abrotman | you really don't know what's going on .. |
| 01:03.20 | abrotman | he hasn't even told you which packages are having problems |
| 01:03.43 | wsky | "nor delete this half-installed kernel package" |
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| 01:04.14 | wsky | seems that apt failed on some step of the kernel installation process |
| 01:04.18 | wsky | but ok |
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| 01:04.48 | wsky | we wont argue about silly things, wont we? |
| 01:05.33 | abrotman | easy to say when you're the one being silly :) |
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| 01:05.52 | wsky | ouch |
| 01:05.56 | wsky | that hurt me really |
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| 01:07.09 | abyxcos | abrotman, wsky It fails to run grub. That's all. |
| 01:07.21 | wsky | maybe you have no grub installed? |
| 01:07.23 | abyxcos | wsky: If you want, I can start X and give you the log of a dpkg --force -r * |
| 01:07.33 | wsky | no no |
| 01:07.36 | abyxcos | wsky: I should have grub2 installed, but I really don't want to run grub. |
| 01:07.41 | wsky | rather have a look in man dpokg |
| 01:07.45 | wsky | man dpkg * |
| 01:08.01 | abyxcos | wsky: I'm about to just format the volume, and restart, so if you want anything entertaining I can do it. |
| 01:08.08 | wsky | :-D |
| 01:08.13 | cjfs | LIGHT IT UP |
| 01:08.16 | abrotman | abyxcos: please use a pastebin |
| 01:08.30 | abrotman | abyxcos: we cannot see the error, we cannot give you reliable advice |
| 01:08.50 | abyxcos | abrotman: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?). |
| 01:08.58 | abrotman | is it? |
| 01:09.04 | abyxcos | Probably not. |
| 01:09.11 | abyxcos | I might also just nuke grub. |
| 01:09.16 | wsky | abyxcos: seems that /dev is not being mounted :o |
| 01:09.38 | abyxcos | wsky: I probably forgot to mount it before the chroot. |
| 01:09.49 | abyxcos | And I can't uninstall grub2. |
| 01:10.38 | abrotman | just watches this devolve |
| 01:11.03 | cjfs | 2009! |
| 01:11.08 | abyxcos | abrotman: It took about 40 seconds to install. I'd rather just blow it away than my grub conf, as that took 4 hours to get right. |
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| 01:13.23 | abyxcos | So if anyone has some fun destructive commands they want to run on my chroot, I'll do them after I grab a bite. |
| 01:14.33 | wsky | abyxcos: apt-get install kdebase-bin |
| 01:14.38 | wsky | runs |
| 01:15.31 | abyxcos | >_< |
| 01:16.03 | abyxcos | Only 360MB. It'll be done (failed) before I finish eating. |
| 01:16.24 | wsky | what are you eating? |
| 01:16.33 | wsky | except your hair |
| 01:16.44 | abyxcos | Pasta, and some beer fried rice. |
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| 01:37.58 | abyxcos | abrotman: Is there a good place to report these bugs? At the very least, if I can reproduce the "no less in base set," that should be reportable. |
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| 01:41.52 | abrotman | abyxcos: it doesn't sound to me like you did things correctly |
| 01:42.04 | abyxcos | abrotman: http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap |
| 01:42.08 | abrotman | and? |
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| 01:42.35 | abyxcos | abrotman: ./debootstrap --arch=amd64 sid /mnt/debian "http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian" |
| 01:42.43 | abyxcos | abrotman: The script returned no errors. |
| 01:42.48 | abrotman | did you follow the 60 other steps? |
| 01:43.17 | abyxcos | The only other step I see is chroot in and set up your filesystems. |
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| 01:43.30 | abrotman | so you didn't do the other 12 steps that it tells you to |
| 01:43.51 | abyxcos | 10, and 7 consist of chrooting in. |
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| 01:44.08 | abrotman | not quite .. but if you say so |
| 01:44.13 | abyxcos | The last 3 consist of setting up /etc/fstab. |
| 01:44.17 | abyxcos | I didn't run dselect. |
| 01:44.54 | abrotman | would you like me to try to reproduce your problem ? |
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| 01:45.10 | jhutchins_wk | Why would running dpkg have anything to do with startin X? |
| 01:45.11 | abyxcos | Maybe we're seeing different pages, or using different bases to count, but I see 10decimal steps after making a folder. |
| 01:45.14 | wsky | one problem is enough |
| 01:45.35 | abrotman | abyxcos: give me a few minutes .. let me follow those steps |
| 01:45.35 | abyxcos | abrotman: Sure. I'm also going to reinstall it, using that same single command. |
| 01:46.15 | wsky | i didn't even use this howto to setup my sids |
| 01:46.27 | wsky | and guess what, they're working |
| 01:46.32 | abrotman | wsky: not helping |
| 01:46.45 | abyxcos | wsky: I have a minimal debian background. If you have a better guide or manpage, I'll gladly use that. |
| 01:47.02 | abyxcos | wsky: I managed to set up my whole gentoo thing without reading the manual too. |
| 01:47.57 | wsky | abyxcos: basically, you run deboostrap, mount filesystems, copy rselolv.conf, install bootloader (optionally if you have another working one already), install kernel, setup locales, timezone, fstab, network and the bootloader |
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| 01:48.18 | abrotman | nice guide .. |
| 01:48.40 | abyxcos | I did all of that except for the network, as I found out on reboot. |
| 01:48.52 | abyxcos | And locales. I didn't set up locales. |
| 01:49.07 | wsky | that's also optionall |
| 01:49.20 | abrotman | abyxcos: can you just hold on a minute |
| 01:50.11 | wsky | with single l |
| 01:50.27 | abyxcos | abrotman: I'm not going anywhere soon. |
| 01:50.57 | abrotman | i meant instead of bickering with wsky |
| 01:51.08 | abyxcos | abrotman: But it's fun. |
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| 01:51.41 | abrotman | it's annoying |
| 01:52.01 | wsky | are you trying to provoke me and get me banned? |
| 01:52.34 | abrotman | wsky: if oyu don't want to actually help, just ignore us, thank you |
| 01:52.58 | wsky | O_o |
| 01:53.01 | abyxcos | Sure? Getting banned is overrated. |
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| 01:53.41 | abyxcos | I was also hearing that -testing doesn't get security updates backported to it. Is that true, as it sounds like a load of crap. |
| 01:53.45 | wsky | so. what do you propose instead. |
| 01:54.15 | abrotman | abyxcos: it's not a release .. it gets security fixes when the package passes from unstable to testing |
| 01:54.49 | abrotman | as wheezy nears release, they will setup the repo for security updates |
| 01:54.55 | abrotman | (or it's already there, but empty) |
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| 01:56.01 | abyxcos | Ahh, that makes more sense. |
| 01:56.27 | abrotman | abyxcos: so what else did you install after your deboostrap ? |
| 01:56.43 | jhutchins_wk | It's not meant to be a working, usable release, it's intended for tessting purposes. |
| 01:56.45 | abyxcos | abrotman: Nothing. man apt-get. |
| 01:56.49 | abrotman | uh what? |
| 01:57.07 | abrotman | abyxcos: which packages failed to install? |
| 01:57.08 | abyxcos | abrotman: I ran 'man apt-get' after I did the bootstrap. |
| 01:57.20 | abyxcos | (inside the chroot.) |
| 01:57.43 | abrotman | abyxcos: well, i didn't do the --arch, but i have less installed .. |
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| 01:57.52 | abrotman | and man apt-get works just fine |
| 01:58.08 | abyxcos | abrotman: I wasn't on a debian host, so I had to pass it an arch to start. |
| 01:58.09 | abrotman | well, i did --arch, but mine was i386 |
| 01:58.17 | abyxcos | Mine was amd64. |
| 01:58.27 | abrotman | can't imagine that really matters |
| 01:58.34 | abrotman | those are pretty basic packages |
| 01:58.58 | abyxcos | Thats what I thought. |
| 01:59.04 | abyxcos | But less wasn't installed. |
| 01:59.14 | abyxcos | I'll run it again if you want. |
| 01:59.15 | abrotman | abyxcos: worked jsut fine here, yay chroot |
| 01:59.21 | abrotman | abyxcos: could you, please? |
| 01:59.27 | abrotman | you can also use 'script' to record what happens |
| 01:59.32 | abyxcos | Well, I am running it again anyway, as my kernel is all buggered up. |
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| 02:05.28 | abyxcos | What version is debootstrap? |
| 02:05.47 | kingsley | How would you determine if a given computer is running 32 or 64 bit code? |
| 02:06.28 | abyxcos | kingsley: The easy way is 'uname -a', which generally shows if the kernel is 32 or 64 bit (i386 or amd64) |
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| 02:06.39 | abyxcos | kingsley: Also, you can do 'file /bin/ls' |
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| 02:07.11 | abyxcos | What do you know, gentoo has a debootstrap package. |
| 02:07.26 | wsky | yes it hasd |
| 02:07.47 | wsky | has* |
| 02:08.06 | abyxcos | Easier than symlinking ~/Downloads/usr/share into /usr/share. |
| 02:08.21 | kingsley | abyxcos: uname -a says "686-pae" and file /bin/ls says 32 bit. |
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| 02:08.41 | abyxcos | kingsley: That sounds very much like a 32bit system then. |
| 02:08.42 | kingsley | abyxcos: I'm inclined to think it's a 32 bit distro. |
| 02:08.50 | kingsley | abyxcos: Thank you. |
| 02:09.00 | abyxcos | kingsley: You can always 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' |
| 02:09.17 | abyxcos | kingsley: That won't tell you about the distro, but will be easy to see if your system supports 64bit. |
| 02:10.59 | xylophonitis | im looking for some help with darkstat if anyone is familiar, trying to run it on a vps running debian64. |
| 02:11.26 | abyxcos | I must say, other than the base system having an overinflated idea of it's own importance, and the kernel package trying to blow away grub, this method of installing linux is pretty nice. |
| 02:13.20 | homes | abyxcos: i prefer debootstrap |
| 02:13.54 | homes | though i'm thinking of moving to a FAI setup |
| 02:14.01 | jelly-home | kingsley: dpkg --print-architecture |
| 02:14.30 | abyxcos | FAI? |
| 02:14.40 | abrotman | abyxcos: i'm using the one in testing |
| 02:14.49 | homes | network provisioning [fully automated install iirc] |
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| 02:15.46 | abrotman | homes: sort of different tools |
| 02:16.26 | abyxcos | abrotman: Ayup, on amd64, 'which less' returns nothing. |
| 02:16.39 | homes | abrotman: indeed indeed, my future vision is to have my desktop fully deployed with FAI & puppet |
| 02:16.39 | abyxcos | abrotman: No /usr/bin/less. |
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| 02:17.05 | abrotman | abyxcos: you're trying to debootstrap amd64 on a 32bit distro ? |
| 02:17.15 | abrotman | just want to be clear |
| 02:17.15 | abyxcos | abrotman: Nope, both are 64. |
| 02:17.19 | abrotman | ah okay |
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| 02:17.41 | abrotman | ETOOMUCHKINGSLEY |
| 02:17.48 | abrotman | abyxcos: so you did it again, fail /; |
| 02:17.49 | abrotman | ? |
| 02:18.02 | abyxcos | abrotman: Aye. |
| 02:18.14 | Ubuh-Huntuh | what is wrong with this command: route -A inet6 add 1:1:1:1:1:1:200:0/112 gw 1:1:1:1:1:1:201:1 (error received: SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument) |
| 02:18.39 | abrotman | shouldn't that be ::/112 ? |
| 02:18.42 | wsky | ipv6 scares me |
| 02:18.47 | Ubuh-Huntuh | i can do that |
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| 02:18.57 | Ubuh-Huntuh | same msmg |
| 02:19.00 | Ubuh-Huntuh | msg |
| 02:19.04 | wsky | shivers |
| 02:19.21 | abrotman | Ubuh-Huntuh: oh, you're supposed to use 'ip' for ipv6 i think |
| 02:19.46 | Ubuh-Huntuh | http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+IPv6-HOWTO/x1083.html <- this says both will work. i will try |
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| 02:21.02 | Ubuh-Huntuh | ip -6 route add 1:1:1:1:1:1:200::/112 via 1:1:1:1:1:1:201:1 -> RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument |
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| 02:22.19 | abrotman | don't you need to specify a device ? |
| 02:22.35 | Ubuh-Huntuh | it's optional. i tried |
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| 02:27.20 | abrotman | oh, is it spuposed to be "ip -6 route add default via <gatewayIP> dev <device> ? |
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| 02:29.32 | Ubuh-Huntuh | that's for default route. |
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| 02:35.27 | ChibaPet | Alright, I'm nervous about something. I've got a pair of disks with GPT and one with an MBR. GRUB on a new install sees a Windows install on the MBR disk, and it's talking about installing to the MBR of my first disk. The first disk doesn't have an MBR, it has a BIOS boot partition. |
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| 02:36.21 | ChibaPet | I'm wondering if it will do the right thing and install to the BIOS boot partition of that first disk, or if it's confused and will prefer the disk with the MBR. The wording makes me wonder. |
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| 02:37.22 | ChibaPet | Maybe I file a bug if this works... It probably wants to *say* something other than MBR if it's actually doing the right thing. We'll see I guess. |
| 02:38.53 | dvs | ChibaPet: So, when your computer boots up, it boots to a GPT disk? |
| 02:39.05 | ChibaPet | That's what we'll see in a moment. :) |
| 02:39.33 | ChibaPet | Just to feel a little safer, I ran dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc in a chroot from the installer. |
| 02:40.24 | ChibaPet | ...and chose both disks, since it's a RAID set. (And in particular it's a RAID set hosting encrypted partitions. Wanted to try new things. I haven't combined software RAID with crypto before.) |
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| 02:40.34 | ChibaPet | Anyway, brb, going to reboot and see. |
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| 02:42.55 | ChibaPet | Alright, yeah, it did the right thing, so I guess I'll submit a bug report. |
| 02:43.16 | ChibaPet | It was confusing seeing it talking about an MBR where there wasn't one. |
| 02:44.17 | dvs | Every BIOS disk has an MBR. |
| 02:45.14 | ChibaPet | Right, but this is GPT. |
| 02:45.17 | ChibaPet | No MBR. |
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| 02:45.36 | ChibaPet | Or does it have an MBR but no following space? |
| 02:45.42 | ChibaPet | Maybe I'm confused more than I realized. |
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| 02:46.24 | ChibaPet | That would make sense... MBR, and I need the BIOS boot partition because there isn't the space trailing the MBR into which GRUB can stuff its remainders. Is that right? |
| 02:46.39 | ChibaPet | If so, I'll hold off on the bug report. :P |
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| 02:47.32 | dvs | GRUB can be installed into a partition. |
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| 02:47.54 | ChibaPet | Right, but are you saying that even GPT disks have an MBR? |
| 02:48.17 | dvs | I have no idea about GPT. |
| 02:48.36 | ChibaPet | It'd make sense. I'll read up once I have more of my system put together. |
| 02:48.40 | dvs | But I do know that GRUB in Wheezy was recently upgraded to handle GPT |
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| 02:48.56 | ChibaPet | Yeah, and it works - I'm booted through it now. |
| 02:49.35 | ChibaPet | And with GPT you need a BIOS boot partition, but I think I was confused and thought that meant you didn't have an MBR, but now I think it just means you don't have the space after the MBR you'd have an a DOS-partition format. |
| 02:51.14 | ChibaPet | Hm, I can't find the lightdm package. |
| 02:51.42 | ChibaPet | Ah, something incomplete. Updating |
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| 02:54.14 | ChibaPet | Did the lightdm package go away? |
| 02:57.26 | ksk | ,versions lightdm |
| 02:57.27 | judd | Package: lightdm on i386 -- wheezy: 1.2.2-4; sid: 1.2.3-1; experimental: 1.4.0-1 |
| 02:57.28 | ksk | what do you mean? |
| 02:57.43 | ksk | hum, it seems there was no lightdm in (old)stable |
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| 02:57.55 | ChibaPet | I'm looking for it on amd64. |
| 02:58.04 | ChibaPet | I have it on amd64 on my wheezy netbook. |
| 02:58.10 | abrotman | ,versions lightdm --arch amd64 |
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| 02:58.12 | judd | Package: lightdm on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.2.2-4; sid: 1.2.3-1; experimental: 1.4.0-1 |
| 02:58.52 | ChibaPet | I wonder why my aptitude isn't seeing it. Nor apt-get. |
| 02:59.05 | abrotman | ChibaPet: pastebin your sources.list |
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| 03:00.01 | ChibaPet | Um, no X yet, but I'm pointed at debian.lcs.mit.edu. Poking a bit. |
| 03:00.25 | ChibaPet | um |
| 03:00.25 | abrotman | ChibaPet: you have squeeze, squeeze-updates and squeeze-proposed-updates ? |
| 03:00.47 | ChibaPet | I'm a fool. |
| 03:00.56 | ChibaPet | I used a Squeeze boot stick. |
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| 03:02.13 | ChibaPet | I forgot that I overwrote the Wheezy installer for a work project. =grumble= |
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| 03:02.51 | ChibaPet | I guess I can stick with Squeeze on this box for now. I don't feel like redoing it this late in the evening. |
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| 03:03.45 | ChibaPet | abrotman: Yes, I didn't noting squeeze-not-wheezy on my first look. |
| 03:03.53 | ChibaPet | notice* |
| 03:04.19 | abrotman | ChibaPet: sorry, didn't realize you were targeting wheezy |
| 03:04.46 | ChibaPet | Trying to anyway. :P No big deal. I can use xdm instead of lightdm. It's only an issue with network-manager and friends. |
| 03:05.05 | ChibaPet | This box is a glorified X terminal with accelerated graphics. |
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| 03:06.01 | ChibaPet | Nothing much in my environment changes. Openbox, suckless-tools... It's all good. |
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| 03:06.31 | ChibaPet | Note to self: don't use my USB sticks for work projects. |
| 03:07.33 | ChibaPet | The only thing I'm wondering now is if GRUB in Wheezy can deal with encrypted partitions directly... |
| 03:07.37 | ChibaPet | That'd be worth reinstalling. |
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| 03:15.19 | abyxcos | ChibaPet: Just a tip, you can always log in at the tty and use startx. |
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| 03:15.34 | ChibaPet | Not installed yet. Soon though. |
| 03:15.47 | abyxcos | ChibaPet: I got in the (bad?) habbit of doing that instead of using a DM/login manager. |
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| 03:17.01 | ChibaPet | I don't mind xdm. And it seems like GRUB might not yet handle an encrypted FS all on its own, so I'll stick with unencrypted /boot and encrypted / |
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| 03:17.29 | abyxcos | You could always hand-compile grub2. |
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| 03:17.48 | abyxcos | I've found for anything fancy, nearly ever distro needs a later version of grub2. |
| 03:18.16 | ChibaPet | I haven't found anecdotal evidence that it'll do decryption on its own... I'd love a reference if I've just missed it. |
| 03:18.39 | Devastator | abrotman can I pm you sir? |
| 03:19.03 | abrotman | sure |
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| 03:20.07 | abyxcos | ChibaPet: I believe, but may be incorrect that grub2 will handle encrypted luks lvm volumes. |
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| 03:21.02 | abyxcos | ChibaPet: I don't use it though, for what it's worth. |
| 03:21.04 | ChibaPet | abyxcos: I'll check it out sometime soon. For now, I'm just going to get my working environment going again. What I've got is a step closer to what I wanted. |
| 03:21.32 | abyxcos | If I didn't set a root password, I can't login, right? |
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| 03:22.00 | ChibaPet | abyxcos: If you didn't set a root password and don't have a user account, you're limited to booting with init=/bin/sh or something similar. |
| 03:22.11 | ChibaPet | or boot off of other media and chroot in, set a password |
| 03:22.34 | abyxcos | ChibaPet: It changes so often. I *thought* you used to just be able to hit enter at the prompt. |
| 03:23.01 | abyxcos | It's ok though, I forgot to tell it where my root partition is (it may have found it by magic.) |
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| 03:26.02 | abyxcos | Well, I made dhcp/networking work by booting into a different kernel... |
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| 03:27.12 | abyxcos | Where do the boot messages get saved? |
| 03:27.28 | abyxcos | As I have 5 failures before my system starts. |
| 03:27.33 | ChibaPet | check /var/log/dmesg ? |
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| 03:27.58 | abyxcos | ChibaPet: That's just dmesg, not the boot stuff. |
| 03:28.14 | ChibaPet | What boot stuff do you want? |
| 03:28.24 | abyxcos | ChibaPet: When the services start (init stuff) |
| 03:28.48 | abyxcos | I have multiple failures, and login (atty? getty?) wants to run clear before it prints the prompt. |
| 03:28.49 | ChibaPet | Oh. Errors there... I would imagine /var/log/messages for some of it, perhaps. |
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| 03:29.10 | ChibaPet | maybe /var/log/syslog |
| 03:29.14 | ChibaPet | one of those two anyway |
| 03:29.29 | ChibaPet | possibly /var/log/daemon.log |
| 03:30.08 | abyxcos | None of those unforteantly :P |
| 03:30.43 | Getty | abyxcos: i'm no failure!!! |
| 03:31.09 | Getty | abyxcos: :-( why you hate me? i just try todo my job... damn it, i'm f**king santa clause, trying to please everybody |
| 03:31.09 | abyxcos | Getty: No, you're just clearing my screen all the time :P |
| 03:31.30 | Getty | abyxcos: so thats not what you want? damn kids these days, try to speak clear and i understand! I just do what the hell you tell me! |
| 03:31.39 | abyxcos | lol |
| 03:31.49 | abyxcos | getty (or login) used to not run clear. |
| 03:32.03 | abyxcos | I'm honetsly not sure who's fault that is. Might even be init. |
| 03:32.18 | Getty | you upgraded or something? |
| 03:32.31 | Getty | normally you have a clear control sign in the issue file |
| 03:32.37 | abyxcos | Yea. It's been doing that for the lasat 5 years or so. |
| 03:32.44 | Getty | lol ok ;) |
| 03:32.47 | Getty | check your issue file |
| 03:32.53 | Getty | if you see it strating with strange signs, remove them |
| 03:32.56 | abyxcos | What is the clear control character? \l? |
| 03:33.11 | abyxcos | Nah, /etc/issue is just Debain 7.0 \n \l |
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| 03:34.49 | abyxcos | Hmm, I need to figure out how to install a kernel now... |
| 03:35.04 | abyxcos | And I can't mount /home without a kernel? |
| 03:35.35 | ChibaPet | Oh, hm. Maybe one bug I'll need to work around. xfce4-terminal in Squeeze eats alt-1 even when there aren't tabs. |
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| 03:35.58 | ChibaPet | I think I can just use gnome-terminal instead. |
| 03:36.01 | KsM | ChibaPet: turn it off in the settings |
| 03:36.15 | abyxcos | ChibaPet: I think you can unset the shortcuts for tabs, or change meta back to escape. |
| 03:36.29 | ChibaPet | KsM: Trick is that I use it for tab one in all but one window. |
| 03:36.44 | KsM | what |
| 03:36.58 | ChibaPet | My irssi window doesn't have tabs, so alt-1 takes me to my first terminal, except in xfce4-terminal in Squeeze. |
| 03:37.26 | KsM | yes, just disable the feature in the settings of xfce4-terminal |
| 03:37.29 | ChibaPet | So most windows, I want alt-1 to take me to the first tab. In Wheezy the behaviour is that alt-1 etc are passed through if there aren't tabs. |
| 03:37.41 | ChibaPet | KsM: Right, but then it's disabled, and you can't do that per-window. |
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| 03:37.57 | KsM | but it conflicts with irssi anyway |
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| 03:38.04 | ChibaPet | I only want it in one window. :P Does the right thing in Wheezy. In Squeeze I'll just use gnome-terminal for that window. |
| 03:38.04 | KsM | so change the keybind/disable the keybind |
| 03:38.20 | ChibaPet | It doesn't conflict with irssi in Wheezy, because I give irssi its own window, no tabs. |
| 03:38.28 | abyxcos | Does anyone know the location of linux-kernel-3.9-r1? |
| 03:38.52 | abyxcos | Git seems to only have 3.8 tagged. |
| 03:38.59 | dvs | ,kernels |
| 03:39.00 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.8-trunk-686-pae (3.8-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.39-2); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.35-2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.35-2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze1); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-29) |
| 03:39.02 | ChibaPet | KsM: But I appreciate the help. I'm just remembering it as something I'll need to work around. They changed the behaviour of xfce4-terminal int he version Wheezy ships. |
| 03:39.23 | abyxcos | dvs: I highly doubt there is a .deb for it yet. |
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| 03:40.09 | KsM | 3.9 kernel is not even in mainline yet on kernel.org |
| 03:40.19 | abyxcos | Aye. |
| 03:40.32 | abyxcos | I need some of the features out of it though, and I have no clue where it's located. |
| 03:40.56 | abyxcos | And as usual, google won't turn up anything useful. |
| 03:40.59 | ChibaPet | "Need" is an interesting concept there. What out of curiosity does it do that you need? Haven't looked. |
| 03:41.15 | abyxcos | ChibaPet: VFIO-assign-vga patches. |
| 03:41.27 | abyxcos | ChibaPet: I don't feel like applying them myself to 3.8. |
| 03:42.04 | ChibaPet | Hm, makes me wish I had my web browser running. Soon, soon. |
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| 03:42.32 | ChibaPet | (Package installs are fighting with the md resynch, so things are moving along, but not in the snappiest of fashions.) |
| 03:42.34 | abyxcos | ChibaPet: It's the new pci-passthrough framework. |
| 03:42.37 | ChibaPet | ah |
| 03:42.53 | abyxcos | ChibaPet: For assigning PCI devices directly to VMs. |
| 03:42.55 | ChibaPet | for virtualization, right? |
| 03:43.03 | ChibaPet | Yeah, I think I did actually read about that. |
| 03:43.23 | abyxcos | It's really fun. I've had good luck so far with the PCI-assign work. |
| 03:43.37 | ChibaPet | So, what's the utility there? I sort of imagine stuff like running a Windows VM and letting it do hardware graphics acceleration for games or something. |
| 03:43.40 | abyxcos | But the second time a VM trys to allocate a PCI device, I get a host lockup. |
| 03:43.51 | abyxcos | I play games in a windows VM :D |
| 03:44.03 | ChibaPet | Wine here. |
| 03:44.04 | abyxcos | The main use though is passing harddrives and network cards directly to a VM. |
| 03:44.09 | ChibaPet | ah |
| 03:44.49 | abyxcos | I think I'm taking a 7% CPU hit with the VM and hardware virtualization, (theoretical 5% min I think.) |
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| 03:45.29 | ChibaPet | And this'll get you close to no hit? |
| 03:45.54 | abyxcos | No, this won't hard-freeze the host whenever windows decides to reboot. |
| 03:46.14 | ChibaPet | Well. That reduces your CPU hit too, and very dramatically. |
| 03:46.59 | abyxcos | It evens out, because I tend to hit the power button shortly after the Windows VM reboots itself. |
| 03:47.25 | ChibaPet | Out of curiosity, why not Wine? |
| 03:47.52 | abyxcos | Bad driver support on linux, and I take less of a resource hit with Windows running. |
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| 03:48.14 | abyxcos | With the hardware virtualization instructions, the whole shebang idles at 3-5%. |
| 03:48.24 | ChibaPet | hm |
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| 03:48.38 | ChibaPet | And graphics acceleration? I thought that tended not to work well. |
| 03:48.48 | ChibaPet | I haven't tried for a while mind you. |
| 03:48.48 | abyxcos | I have been meaning to download steam and at least get my free penguin hat in TF2 though. |
| 03:49.08 | abyxcos | Aye, that's the other reason I didn't go with wine. Putzing around with flakey binary drivers. |
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| 03:49.37 | ChibaPet | No, I meant, I thought getting working hardware graphics acceleration in a guest OS was flaky. |
| 03:49.39 | abyxcos | However, I do have that option. I can just shut down the VM and load the kernel module up, and start a second X session on my other monitor. |
| 03:50.03 | abyxcos | Very. It's all with these new PCI passthrough frameworks. |
| 03:50.28 | ChibaPet | Ah, gotcha. But how are you doing it now if you don't have 3.9? Or are you running a direct-build-and-install? |
| 03:50.37 | ChibaPet | ...and you just want it packaged? |
| 03:50.41 | abyxcos | So now that the device is remapped into the VM's space, the normal Windows ATI drivers just work. |
| 03:50.50 | ChibaPet | cool |
| 03:51.00 | abyxcos | I'm using the old patches on gentoo. |
| 03:51.05 | ChibaPet | Ah. |
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| 03:51.30 | abyxcos | The latest and greatest have been written against 3.9, so I need to update to keep testing. |
| 03:51.53 | ChibaPet | Hm, sounds fun. |
| 03:52.15 | abyxcos | Not production ready, but I love the technology. |
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| 03:52.41 | ChibaPet | Yeah, I used to obsessively track -current when I was a NetBSD person. I can understand the drive. |
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| 03:53.11 | abyxcos | I don't need -current everything, just the VFIO-vga patches. |
| 03:54.13 | abyxcos | However my current project is taking this debian side-loaded install and promoting it to a first-class citizen. |
| 03:54.23 | abyxcos | Right now it's booting off a gentoo kernel and initramfs. |
| 03:54.55 | abyxcos | Because to make my life harder I'm using a zfs root fs. |
| 03:55.04 | ChibaPet | fuse? |
| 03:55.12 | abyxcos | zfsonlinux. |
| 03:55.15 | ChibaPet | ah |
| 03:55.22 | ChibaPet | I haven't played with that yet. |
| 03:55.32 | abyxcos | It's fun. |
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| 03:55.43 | ChibaPet | ZFS is fascinating. Too bad they chose the CDDL. |
| 03:55.51 | abyxcos | It's great with the VMs. Thats where I see most of the power in it. |
| 03:55.56 | abrotman | btrfs? |
| 03:56.09 | abyxcos | abrotman: Is that even finished yet? |
| 03:56.12 | ChibaPet | I'm assuming btrfs will get really popular once it's "there". |
| 03:56.23 | abyxcos | abrotman: Every time it comes up, it's still got some kind of odd data-loss bugs. |
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| 03:56.56 | abyxcos | ChibaPet: Also, the license isn't bad. It's much better than the GPLv3. And probably on par with v2. |
| 03:56.58 | ChibaPet | I was first fascinated with COW filesystems back when LSFS was still a prospect, but ZFS (and hammer and btr and blah blah blah) do so much more... |
| 03:57.00 | abrotman | abyxcos: doesn't seem to stop people from using reiserfs :) |
| 03:57.19 | ChibaPet | abyxcos: The thing that weirds me out about the license is, no sunset clause. How do people interpret that? |
| 03:57.21 | abyxcos | abrotman: That's spousal murder, not data loss :D |
| 03:57.31 | abrotman | abyxcos: not amused .. i was being serious |
| 03:57.59 | ChibaPet | abyxcos: The way I read it allows for the interpretation that you have to distribute source in perpetuity if you distribute the software ever. |
| 03:58.10 | ChibaPet | The GPL has an explicit time limit for that situation. |
| 03:58.13 | abyxcos | abrotman: I didn't really look into reiser when it was popular. Did it have dataloss issues? I thought most were solved by a good fsck. |
| 03:58.49 | abrotman | it didn't have fsck |
| 03:58.49 | abyxcos | ChibaPet: I haven't read it closely, so I can't comment. |
| 03:59.02 | abrotman | this is the part where you make a funny ascii face |
| 03:59.26 | abyxcos | I thought it grew fsck eventually. |
| 03:59.32 | abrotman | dunno, it may have |
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| 04:02.06 | abyxcos | ChibaPet: Also I view the CDDL to the GPL as the GPL to the BSD. |
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| 04:02.34 | abyxcos | ChibaPet: It exists just to make life hard on the "free-er" developers, because "idealology." |
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| 04:02.52 | ChibaPet | mm |
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| 04:03.11 | abyxcos | ChibaPet: So many GPL projects that refuse to relicense even LGPL, just like all of Sun's stuff won't play nice with Linux. |
| 04:03.12 | ChibaPet | I'd be happiest in a world where there was just BSD and GPL. |
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| 04:03.27 | ChibaPet | I see a point to both. |
| 04:03.28 | abyxcos | ChibaPet: Why? BSD can use the CDDL code pretty easily. |
| 04:03.46 | aguitel | where to find best themes from squeeze gnome ? |
| 04:04.03 | ChibaPet | aguitel: You might have fun making your own. |
| 04:04.10 | abyxcos | aguitel: gnome-look.org is my favorite. |
| 04:04.51 | abyxcos | ChibaPet: Also, it lets Linux folk understand what it's like to be on the other side of the fence, although I think the irony is lost on them. |
| 04:05.00 | ChibaPet | heh, that's true enough |
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| 04:05.56 | abyxcos | abrotman: I'm interested in hearing arguments for using btrfs. |
| 04:06.18 | abyxcos | abrotman: It still seems like it's seriously behind, and has strange limitations. |
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| 04:06.25 | ChibaPet | abyxcos: licensing |
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| 04:06.57 | ChibaPet | abyxcos: It'll be possible to painlessly include it in Debian and so forth. All politics. |
| 04:08.00 | notjimcarrey | when i use mplayer on /dev/video1 (my hvr-1950), the audio is mainly high pitched noise. anyone know a fix for this? |
| 04:09.32 | abyxcos | ChibaPet: I don't view a GPL licensed filesystem as any better :P |
| 04:09.38 | well_laid_lawn | what's the mplayer command you use? |
| 04:09.47 | well_laid_lawn | notjimcarrey: ^^ |
| 04:10.01 | notjimcarrey | mplayer /dev/video1 |
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| 04:10.04 | abyxcos | ChibaPet: Also, as you may have noticed, my system is hardly 'painless.' |
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| 04:10.24 | notjimcarrey | but that's after i run ivtv-tune -t us-cable -d /dev/video1 -c 24 |
| 04:10.47 | well_laid_lawn | notjimcarrey: dunno if it'll help but by the mplayer docs you need a TV:// in the command |
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| 04:11.23 | notjimcarrey | that goes to video0, webcam |
| 04:12.01 | well_laid_lawn | with a channels.conf mplayer can tune in |
| 04:12.24 | notjimcarrey | haven't figured out how to get a channels.conf yet |
| 04:12.34 | notjimcarrey | scan won't do it |
| 04:12.42 | notjimcarrey | hvr-1950 is an mpeg decoder |
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| 04:13.23 | well_laid_lawn | http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/tv-input.html |
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| 04:14.39 | well_laid_lawn | this worked for me - http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Dvbscan |
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| 04:20.27 | ChibaPet | Well, g'night all. Going to let this finish spinning my disks and then sleep. |
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| 04:27.12 | notjimcarrey | well_laid_lawn: dvbscan is for digital channels though right? |
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| 04:28.07 | acu | how can I go to offtopic - I need to know quickly what is the temperature in outerspace (near earth -at shadow and when facing - sun ) or is there a difference |
| 04:29.06 | themill | acu: ##physics ? |
| 04:29.08 | andross | there certainly is a difference |
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| 04:30.07 | abyxcos | I agree with #physics. I think the ambient temperature is probably the same... But the radiation from the sun would heat up your thermometer, no? |
| 04:30.11 | andross | Without thermal controls, the temperature of the orbiting Space Station's Sun-facing side would soar to 250 degrees F (121 C), while thermometers on the dark side would plunge to minus 250 degrees F (-157 C). |
| 04:30.11 | well_laid_lawn | notjimcarrey: it does digital, satellite and whatever else afaik |
| 04:30.30 | notjimcarrey | thought it couldn't do analog |
| 04:30.50 | notjimcarrey | ./dev/dvb/ is digital |
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| 04:31.25 | RehpotsirhC | Good evening folked |
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| 04:32.03 | RehpotsirhC | Folkes*, Is it possible to do an SSH hope from one server to another based on username and forward any public keys submitted while connecting? |
| 04:32.38 | RehpotsirhC | So I connect to user@gateway it hops to user@server1 while user2 might end up on server8 |
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| 04:35.22 | andross | you can tunnel through servers |
| 04:35.46 | andross | i think you just need to put your public key on any machines you are connecting to |
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| 04:37.36 | RehpotsirhC | Hmm.. I could probably get away with a bash script that will automatically broker the ssh connection |
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| 04:39.04 | azizLIGHTS | !wheezy |
| 04:39.04 | dpkg | The release following squeeze will be called "wheezy" (the rubber toy penguin with a red bow tie) and will be Debian 7.0. Wheezy was frozen on June 30, 2012. Ask me about <testing>, <freeze>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWheezy #debian-next on irc.debian.org. |
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| 04:40.32 | themill | RehpotsirhC: you might like to look at the ProxyCommand config option for ssh |
| 04:41.12 | azizLIGHTS | can i see the timeline for squeeze, from testin to stable |
| 04:41.20 | azizLIGHTS | where do i see it |
| 04:42.17 | themill | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases |
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| 04:45.20 | azizLIGHTS | themill: thank you very much! |
| 04:45.25 | azizLIGHTS | thats really helpful |
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| 04:46.16 | neon__ | I am connecting disconnecting a sata HD after suspend, now it doesn't show up |
| 04:46.21 | neon__ | how to make it show up? |
| 04:46.47 | azizLIGHTS | is there a livecd version of wheezy i can get? |
| 04:47.02 | neon__ | azizLIGHTS, debian live? |
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| 04:47.34 | azizLIGHTS | does debian live have wheezy? |
| 04:47.41 | neon__ | probably |
| 04:48.08 | azizLIGHTS | i just see mentions of stable but not testing or wheezy |
| 04:48.18 | neon__ | how to make debian scan for connected HDs? |
| 04:48.32 | Rusty1 | there is #debian-live on oftc methinks |
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| 04:48.50 | neon__ | azizLIGHTS, you can ask there, they will know |
| 04:49.21 | themill | neon__: live.debian.net has images to download |
| 04:49.36 | neon__ | azizLIGHTS, http://live.debian.net/project/news/ |
| 04:49.43 | azizLIGHTS | neon__: thank you |
| 04:50.07 | neon__ | anyone know how to make debian scan for connected HDs? |
| 04:50.17 | neon__ | one HD doesn't show |
| 04:50.19 | jpinx | neon__: as root run fdisk -l to see connected HDD's |
| 04:50.50 | neon__ | jpinx, it doesnt see it, but it is connected |
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| 04:51.29 | neon__ | I need to reset something so it will find the missing one |
| 04:51.34 | jpinx | neon__: what does dmesg tell you about it being plugged in ? |
| 04:51.51 | neon__ | jpinx, dmesg is hard to search |
| 04:52.17 | jpinx | neon__: you can run tail -f /var/logs/syslog and watch what happens live as you plug it in |
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| 04:52.46 | azizLIGHTS | if i install the wheezy beta4, how does it update to release candidate? |
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| 04:53.51 | ivanchoff | hi |
| 04:54.04 | neon__ | jpinx, I think one time I didn't connect it on resume, and maybe the following bit is from then: sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] START_STOP FAILED sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Stopping disk |
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| 04:54.33 | neon__ | maybe it hate it now, and kicked banned sda |
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| 04:55.44 | neon__ | I don't feel like rebooting again :( |
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| 04:56.24 | jpinx | neon__: no need to reboot - unplug and check dmesg that it is gone - wait a minute and replug it and check again |
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| 04:56.37 | ivanchoff | what is the best light timetracker in debian? |
| 04:56.41 | jpinx | neon__: patience is a virtue ;) |
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| 04:57.06 | neon__ | jpinx, I once lost an HD after unpluging it while the computer was on |
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| 04:58.02 | jpinx | neon__: if the HD is not mounted it is unusual for anything bad to happen when you unplug it |
| 04:58.24 | neon__ | how many times did u do it yourself? |
| 04:58.33 | neon__ | jpinx, ^ |
| 04:58.38 | jpinx | neon__: lots ;) |
| 04:58.54 | jpinx | has a laptop with external drives |
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| 04:59.18 | neon__ | jpinx, my HD is internal |
| 04:59.24 | neon__ | jpinx, maybe it is different |
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| 04:59.50 | jpinx | neon__: it's different if it's got / on it ;) |
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| 05:01.02 | neon__ | that didn't help |
| 05:01.26 | neon__ | going to reboot again |
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| 05:05.50 | azizLIGHTS | if i install wheezy beta4 does it mean i have to download wheezy stable and reinstall? |
| 05:06.04 | azizLIGHTS | when wheezy becoems stable |
| 05:06.38 | LtL | azizLIGHTS: only the installer was beta, so no |
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| 05:13.09 | acu | azizLIGHTS, no, you do not need to reinstall it - you just type ----- aptitute update then aptitude dist-upgrade - that works usually |
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| 05:13.50 | azizLIGHTS | and how many times can i keep doing aptitude dist-upgrade ? at what point is a reinstall sensible |
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| 05:16.39 | jpinx | azizLIGHTS: it's probably not unreasonable to say that most of us have never re-installed |
| 05:17.21 | pfred1 | I don't know i had a dist-upgrade go bad on me not too long ago |
| 05:17.36 | pfred1 | I was trying to jump like 5 versions or something though |
| 05:17.37 | azizLIGHTS | how does it go bad? |
| 05:17.45 | themill | pfred1: /msg dpkg pal me |
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| 05:18.10 | azizLIGHTS | pfred1: what problems did you encounter after doing a dist-upgrade 5 versions up |
| 05:18.36 | pfred1 | I had a lot of broken packages the system was just generally messed up |
| 05:18.59 | jpinx | azizLIGHTS: ignore him - that's a really dumb thing to do - read the release notes |
| 05:19.00 | pfred1 | this wasn't on Debian mind you it was with Mint |
| 05:19.13 | azizLIGHTS | oh.. thats not revelant then |
| 05:19.29 | pfred1 | they use the debian package management system so the same things can happen |
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| 05:19.51 | zykotick9 | pfred1: apples and oranges, really... |
| 05:19.55 | azizLIGHTS | maybe, but i dunno if itd be taht severe |
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| 05:20.14 | pfred1 | zykotick9 yeah a full install of Mint 14 ain't exactly smooth as silk either |
| 05:20.28 | themill | searches for the relevance to debian |
| 05:20.28 | jpinx | !ot |
| 05:20.28 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
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| 05:20.33 | pfred1 | I have to load Debian onto that system |
| 05:21.28 | pfred1 | but as we all know Debian is a bit of a pris so I'll have to jerk around with loading binary blobs in order to get hardware to work I was tryinf to avound all of that |
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| 05:21.47 | pfred1 | jpinx is that on topic enough for you? |
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| 05:22.36 | themill | so what's the relevance to #debian (which is a user support channel)? |
| 05:23.13 | pfred1 | themill it could mean it would help if Debian included all drivers |
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| 05:26.33 | themill | pfred1: sure, it would help if they were free software. |
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| 05:27.06 | pfred1 | themill sometimes we can't have everything we want |
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| 05:29.32 | pfred1 | themill but I will do whatever it takes to make everything i have work |
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| 05:56.12 | acu | pfred: if you tell exactly what you need to make it work - it will be great- Debian Wheezy is preety modern and uptodata - if you need proprietary drivers at ease - just enable /etc/apt/sources.list and add beside main contrib non-free - then you have most of what you need - I run a wide range of laptops, servers and workstations all on debian |
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| 05:57.08 | acu | pfred1, ^^ I misspelled your nick |
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| 05:58.02 | pfred1 | acu I know how to do it and I've done it before too but I was trying to avoid having to do it again |
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| 05:59.28 | acu | pfred1, you do not need to compile almost no driver is just too easy they are packaged for you, if you know then is great, is really painless and way easier than it was few years ago |
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| 06:00.59 | acu | pfred1, however if you manually compile some drivers, and the kernel changes, you may need to compile again for the new kernel - if it is .deb packaged and in a repo - then you can just apt-get away almost anything |
| 06:01.01 | pfred1 | acu I have tried every way debian offeres to install the nvidia binary driver package none of that has ever worked for me though |
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| 06:01.50 | acu | pfred1: there are proprietary drivers for nvidia in non-free repos |
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| 06:02.10 | pfred1 | acu I am well aware what part of I tried it all and none of it worked aren't you getting? |
| 06:02.57 | pfred1 | there are like 3 different ways the binary driver can be installed |
| 06:03.19 | pfred1 | none of it worked |
| 06:03.26 | acu | pfred1: vague question, vague answer |
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| 06:04.11 | pfred1 | but that is not the issue with that one system as it doesn't have nvidia hardware but it does have other hardware that needs blobs |
| 06:04.12 | acu | you need to state: what OS version you use, what is the hardware you want to make it run, what did you try, what is the message etc |
| 06:04.34 | pfred1 | acu why? I have made it all work and don't need any help doing it |
| 06:04.42 | pfred1 | I just don't want to do it |
| 06:05.15 | pfred1 | the first couple of times maybe it was fun but it isn't anymore |
| 06:06.25 | acu | I see, well, too bad, there are always other options then for you - Fedora 18, OpenSuse even Windows 8, I thought you have some concrete need - to install nvidia you need max three minutes, anyhow, good luck |
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| 06:07.05 | pfred1 | last time I ran fedora I ran into a nasty bug with their 32 bit compatibility libs |
| 06:07.11 | pfred1 | it is a known issue |
| 06:07.35 | pfred1 | I ran suse for a long time about 8 years one setup then that PC fried |
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| 06:08.34 | pfred1 | I really don't care for the Windows UI so that is not a viable option for me but thank you for the suggestions |
| 06:08.49 | acu | pfred1: you may benefit greatly if you try to talk concretely, what version of kernel, etc (not that anyone here will help you with Fedora), but there are some common denominators when it comes to make things work |
| 06:08.50 | sencha | pfred1, what exactly happened that installing the nvidia blob via apt didn't work? |
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| 06:09.18 | pfred1 | sencha it was quite some time ago so the details escape me today |
| 06:09.32 | pfred1 | suffice to say it did not work |
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| 06:09.47 | acu | not, it does not suffice :) |
| 06:09.53 | pfred1 | trust me no one wanted it to work more than I did |
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| 06:10.15 | jpinx | !did not work |
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| 06:10.40 | sencha | pfred1, what release of debian? |
| 06:10.46 | pfred1 | sencha Squeeze |
| 06:11.03 | sencha | interesting |
| 06:11.08 | sencha | pfred1, what nvidia hardware was this for? |
| 06:11.18 | pfred1 | if i was in a better mood I could dig up my notes file but I'm not going to now |
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| 06:11.41 | acu | anyhow, good luck, try other distros too - the kernels are almost bleeding edge (and debian truly takes off from kernel anything is not free) so Fedora or OpenSuse can really render no need for extraneurons |
| 06:11.56 | pfred1 | actually it might even be on my NFS server and it is lending out it's PSU to my new toy |
| 06:12.32 | pfred1 | acu in the past 17 years that I've run LInux I've run a few different distribution of that you can be sure |
| 06:12.44 | sencha | pfred1, could it be that the drivers in squeeze simply did not support your card? (and thus installing manually the latest drivers worked) |
| 06:12.49 | acu | but Debian Wheezy is really one of the most modern and current of the linux distros (though is still unstable) |
| 06:12.56 | pfred1 | sencha no |
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| 06:13.07 | sencha | pfred1, okay, just taking shots in the dark |
| 06:13.12 | pfred1 | I know how to pick the right nvidia driver to use |
| 06:13.24 | pfred1 | I've been running nvidia on LInux since the mx400 |
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| 06:13.52 | pfred1 | heck I can remember when the nvidia binary driver actually did have real stability problems |
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| 06:14.25 | pfred1 | but it still kicked ass so much we put up with it |
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| 06:20.10 | in2tactics | just my two cents, but i've always found the debian nvidia drivers to be a PITA compared to the nvidia binary |
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| 06:30.49 | sencha | in2tactics, debian's prepackaged nvidia binary? |
| 06:30.58 | sencha | in2tactics, or debian's default nouveau nvidia driver? |
| 06:31.20 | notjimcarrey | ok, i found out that the first channel i tell the HVR-1950 to tune to has good sound, but when i change the channel, the sound messes up, unless i reset the device |
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| 06:36.49 | in2tactics | sencha: the debian pre-packaged binary vs the nvidia binary, nvidia seems to win hands down everytime by default because it is more up-to-date |
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| 06:38.57 | felidae | normally if i've sshed into my vps running debian and type "exit" when i'm done, the connection will hang and i won't get a proper disconnection |
| 06:39.07 | felidae | anyone experience this? |
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| 06:39.24 | felidae | happens when i connect on windows through putty, or on os x using ssh on the command line |
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| 06:47.54 | Mogget | felidae: I think you need to provide more information. What you have mentioned is not enough information to help you without spamming a long list of possible causes. |
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| 06:48.30 | felidae | unfortunately that's the only information i have, it happens about 50% of the time, seems to be client independent |
| 06:48.40 | felidae | i'm not sure how to start diagnosing it |
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| 06:49.19 | Mogget | Have you tried checking /var/log/{daemon,messages,auth} and see if there are anything there that could suggest the cause when it happends? |
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| 06:55.03 | felidae | unfortunately nothing that revealed more information |
| 06:55.13 | felidae | i'll set up some alerts and see what comes back |
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| 07:40.10 | homes | yo |
| 07:40.32 | EasyAsPie | hi |
| 07:40.35 | EasyAsPie | how r u |
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| 07:41.50 | nevyn | !moocows |
| 07:41.51 | dpkg | moocows are Moo. Just Moo. |
| 07:41.54 | nevyn | !ot |
| 07:41.54 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
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| 07:42.13 | pfred1 | yeah just imagine |
| 07:42.21 | pfred1 | no one's posted a line for like an hour |
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| 07:43.33 | nevyn | you gotta keep a tight reign on this stuff or who knows where it ends... |
| 07:43.43 | vsMS01 | Hi. Does someone know about how to configure dnsmasq to only ask nameservers from the interface that provides the route to the default gateway? |
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| 07:48.18 | pfred1 | nevyn this is where it ends http://farm8.static.flickr.com/7235/7394254942_05906b23d3_m.jpg |
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| 07:55.41 | kombi | what's with all the certs in /etc/ssl/certs ? Were those there all the time? |
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| 08:01.16 | homes | interesting @ e2image |
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| 08:12.04 | saedelaere | hi, i want to create an usb stick with debian squeeze 6.0.6 standard image. As I want this persistent I need to add persistent as boot parameter and create an additional partition. So far so good. If ound two labels that can be used, live-rw and live-home. does it matter which one I use? Or should I make two partitions? Wgat is the recommended file system? can I use ext2/3/4? |
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| 08:13.03 | bw_ | hmm, from where is /etc/cron.d/ called? |
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| 08:17.48 | mrtnt | What are the most common type of servers used for running a large web-page(for example cnn.com)? I guess web-servers(running HTTP server), database servers, backup-servers. However, what other type of servers are in use? |
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| 08:19.33 | homes | very vague question |
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| 08:21.20 | homes | only someone with experience at cnn.com would be able to answer, here we talk about debian |
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| 09:11.29 | Kiranos | hi I'm investigating about creating my own persona repo for a few config packages. |
| 09:11.40 | Kiranos | I have a question about signing the repo |
| 09:11.55 | Kiranos | I use apt-ftparchive to create the structure etc, |
| 09:12.18 | Kiranos | and my update script uses |
| 09:12.19 | Kiranos | gpg --homedir /var/www/default/debian-nic/.gnupg --output "$ArchiveDir/dists/etch/Release.gpg" -ba "$ArchiveDir/dists/etch/Release" |
| 09:12.35 | homes | config packages, as in installing a stack of config files? |
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| 09:12.47 | Kiranos | do I have to recreate the Release.gpg every time I update a package? |
| 09:13.05 | Kiranos | homes: as in our own icinga checks etc |
| 09:13.48 | Kiranos | or can I simply run apt-ftparchive generate repository.conf |
| 09:14.08 | Kiranos | and it will update the packages to the new that has been added and use the old Release.gpg key |
| 09:14.52 | Kiranos | I'm thinking about only signing the repo and not the packages |
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| 09:19.24 | boudiccas | what opens this please? ... /usr/share/doc/ncmpcpp/examples/config.gz |
| 09:19.49 | boudiccas | normally i'd use leafpad, but that doesnt work on a compressed file |
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| 09:20.36 | homes | boudiccas: zless |
| 09:21.00 | boudiccas | ah, right, thanks |
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| 09:23.55 | frikinz | or vim, gvim |
| 09:24.14 | homes | vim is good |
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| 09:24.48 | babilen | boudiccas: You might just want to stick something like http://paste.debian.net/238818/ into your .bashrc -- That way less will happily open gzipped files |
| 09:25.23 | babilen | And now everybody read lesspipe(1) |
| 09:25.46 | frikinz | exactly :) seems nice, am adding it |
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| 09:26.41 | homes | indeed |
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| 09:28.09 | boudiccas | babilen: thanks. i'd tried 'less' as i thought it was the right command, but it wasnt , but hopeflly this will help me more |
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| 09:48.23 | DotCom | Hi everyone |
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| 09:50.45 | homes | hi kim |
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| 10:16.32 | lipiec | hi, is there any solution to throttle writes on LVM in debian? |
| 10:16.49 | lipiec | i know about cgroups and i enabled blkio controller |
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| 10:17.05 | homes | interesting |
| 10:17.13 | lipiec | and it seems to work but only on sync writes |
| 10:17.41 | lipiec | i mean if i use dd with oflag |
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| 10:18.48 | homes | kinda surprised there's not a devicemapper throttle target |
| 10:19.19 | homes | hmm @ dm-throttle |
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| 10:20.24 | lipiec | homes: ok, thx, i'll check it out |
| 10:20.28 | lipiec | i used /sys/fs/cgroup/lxc/jboss-test/blkio.throttle.write_bps_device |
| 10:20.46 | homes | not sure if its in linux yet, i just see a patch |
| 10:20.49 | lipiec | and it works but only for sync writes, for async not |
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| 10:23.56 | fen | hello |
| 10:25.33 | fen | is there a way to remove a package from the apt-database without removing the files which where installed with this package?? |
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| 10:28.16 | nkuttler | fen: why do you want to do that? |
| 10:28.50 | fen | i have a conflict with packages: flashplugin-nonfree and flashplayer-mozilla... but flashplayer-mozilla is a dependency for a codec i need |
| 10:29.12 | fen | and i want to use flashplugin-nonfree |
| 10:29.16 | nkuttler | ,v flashplayer-mozilla |
| 10:29.17 | judd | Package: flashplayer-mozilla on i386 -- squeeze-multimedia/non-free: 3:11.2.202.270-dmo1; wheezy-multimedia/non-free: 3:11.2.202.270-dmo1; sid-multimedia/non-free: 3:11.2.202.273-dmo1 |
| 10:30.12 | nkuttler | personally, i'd get rid of the dmm stuff |
| 10:30.34 | nkuttler | !tell fen about equivs |
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| 10:30.42 | fen | i could extract flashplugin-nonfree and copy the files from hand and do the postinst-files by hand... but maybe there is an easy solution? |
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| 10:31.44 | mamed | hellhello debian xfce porblem. when i try to open my laptop i get an error cpufreq governor |
| 10:32.26 | nkuttler | mamed: and what's the error? |
| 10:32.55 | nkuttler | mamed: fwiw, cpufreq is kernel stuff, so maybe xfce has some incorrect power management settings.. |
| 10:33.07 | mamed | ok let me to restart |
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| 10:34.05 | fen | nkuttler: how should equivs help here? i have a package installed which i want to tell apt it isnt installed and i do not want to tell apt i have a package installed which is not installed with equivs |
| 10:34.18 | nkuttler | fen: oh, right, sorry |
| 10:34.20 | fen | equivs is nice... but i need the oposite |
| 10:34.47 | mamed | ok nkuttler i have rebooted my machine . i see kernel messages. " CPUFreq utilites : setting on demand CPUFreq gvernor.. cpu0 .. .cpu3 DONE" |
| 10:35.01 | mamed | but i cant pass the next step |
| 10:35.20 | fen | nkuttler: but thanks. maybe this helps somehow to search |
| 10:35.21 | nkuttler | fen: well.. yeah.. unpacking manually is an option.. |
| 10:35.28 | nkuttler | mamed: next step? |
| 10:35.42 | mamed | i mean next kernel message and then shell command |
| 10:35.56 | nkuttler | fen: you can also dpkg --force-help, but really, get rid of dmm :) |
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| 10:36.17 | nkuttler | mamed: i have no idea what that means |
| 10:36.39 | fen | i have allready used dpkg --force-conflicts to install it |
| 10:36.45 | mamed | i mean when everything is ok i must see user@machine:$ |
| 10:36.46 | nkuttler | ah |
| 10:37.13 | nkuttler | fen: sorry, yeah, your problem is confusing me |
| 10:37.21 | fen | nkuttler: with dmm aou mean debian-multimedia? |
| 10:37.29 | nkuttler | fen: yeah |
| 10:37.30 | jelly | fen: inconsistencies in dpkg database will prevent apt from working until fixed |
| 10:38.06 | fen | jelly: thats why i want to get rid of the inconsistencies ;-) |
| 10:38.19 | nkuttler | !why not dmm |
| 10:38.19 | dpkg | The deb-multimedia.org repository was once the only way of getting good multimedia support. By the release of Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" this was mostly not true and for Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" this situation is even better. Libraries from dmm are known to cause incompatibilities with packages from Debian; packages may not meet the <DFSG> so are not allowed in Debian. Use dmm as a last resort; ask me about <dmm pinning> and <dmm remove>. |
| 10:38.58 | fen | nkuttler: it much mor worse ;-) i use linux-mint-debian |
| 10:38.59 | jelly | fen: I mean, dpkg --force-conflicts introduces them. which package depends on flashplayer-mozilla? |
| 10:39.20 | nkuttler | !tell fen about based on debian |
| 10:39.27 | fen | mint-meta-codecs |
| 10:39.32 | fen | jelly: |
| 10:39.51 | jelly | fen: ask the maintainer of mint-meta-codecs on how to approach the issue. |
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| 10:40.13 | fen | argh... i knewed i shouldnt have mentioned mint here ;-) |
| 10:40.20 | jelly | ,v mint-meta-codecs |
| 10:40.22 | judd | No package named 'mint-meta-codecs' was found in i386. |
| 10:40.40 | nkuttler | fen: no, thanks, so we don't need to waste more time on this |
| 10:40.41 | fen | but the problem is not mint-specific |
| 10:41.06 | jelly | fen: it seems to be quite specific, since there is no such package in debian |
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| 10:41.53 | fen | its totally errelevant which package couse the problem for the solution |
| 10:42.27 | nkuttler | fen: there is no problem in debian, so yes |
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| 10:43.12 | fen | does it help to mention that the machine on which my irssy is used is a pure debian one? ;-) |
| 10:43.23 | jelly | fen: nope, sorry, if the problem would not have happened in Debian, then it's not really a debian problem. Unfortunately this is not a generic apt or dpkg channel. Try ##linux. |
| 10:43.52 | fen | *seuftz* |
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| 10:59.30 | pmo | Im installing debian on an older machine with the netinstaller, but it refuses to install grub to MBR.. any idea's? |
| 11:00.32 | pmo | the machine had ubuntu server on it before, and didnt have any issues with grub |
| 11:00.39 | ChrisH | pmo: check the output on ATL-F4 why it fails. can you pastebin that content? |
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| 11:01.03 | pmo | will be very hard to pastebin it hehe, but i can take a peep |
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| 11:02.21 | pmo | anyways says cannot stat `/dev/sda' |
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| 11:03.11 | pmo | and grub-installer says errorcode 1 |
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| 11:08.50 | pmo | ChrisH: i have solved it, thanks anyways :) |
| 11:08.57 | pmo | (ran a more updated installer) |
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| 11:37.56 | saedelaere | what is difference between the partition labels live-rw and home-rw for a debain squeeze live system that i want to use with persistence? |
| 11:38.07 | AnRkey | good day, I'm trying to set static routes to go out of a ppp0 interface. Is there any way to do this automatically without specifying the gw or dev options in /etc/network/interfaces? I don't have the remote address (dynamic) to set as the gw |
| 11:38.11 | saedelaere | do I need two partitions? |
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| 11:40.10 | Sevet | AnRkey: you could execute route commands in a script in /etc/network/if-up.d/, that would let you detect the correct remote address |
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| 11:45.55 | bartzy | Hey |
| 11:46.04 | bartzy | When will Wheezy be stable ? |
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| 11:46.23 | ectospasm | when it's ready |
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| 11:46.56 | bartzy | ectospasm: Is it code freeze already ? |
| 11:47.14 | ectospasm | /topic |
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| 11:47.39 | bartzy | ectospasm: What do you reckon will be the release date for the stable version of wheezy ? |
| 11:47.51 | ectospasm | I haven't a clue. Neither do the developers. |
| 11:47.55 | Guest29997 | Sevet, do you have an example for me? |
| 11:48.13 | ectospasm | I mean, they all can wager guesses... |
| 11:48.20 | ectospasm | but none of them actually knows |
| 11:48.39 | ectospasm | Again, I say: it will be released when it's ready |
| 11:48.43 | bartzy | ectospasm: Scale..? 1 month/6 months/1 year ? |
| 11:49.07 | ectospasm | last estimates I saw said as soon as a month from now, some as far as sixth months. |
| 11:49.12 | ectospasm | But don't quote me on that. |
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| 11:49.54 | bartzy | k |
| 11:49.54 | bartzy | thanks |
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| 11:50.13 | bartzy | Now - I want to create deb packages for php5 , doesn't matter if I use debian source from wheezy or sid - right ? |
| 11:50.15 | bartzy | They're the same version. |
| 11:50.17 | ectospasm | bartzy: I recommend trying it on a test system, it's mostly stable. |
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| 11:50.20 | bartzy | (5.4.4) |
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| 11:50.45 | bartzy | ectospasm: It's for a server, so I would just like to use stable. But for PHP I -HAVE- to use 5.4 ... |
| 11:51.00 | ectospasm | bartzy: did you check backports? |
| 11:51.00 | AnRkey_ | Sevet, do you have an example for me? |
| 11:51.21 | bartzy | So if you can tell me if I should use source packages from sid or wheezy, and point me to some '/msg dpkg' instructions on how to create packages from that ? |
| 11:51.26 | AnRkey_ | sorry, bad link, getting disconnected a lot |
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| 11:51.53 | Sevet | AnRkey_: you'll find a few scripts in there already most likely |
| 11:51.56 | bartzy | ectospasm: Yeah, it's not in squeeze-backports (php 5.3.3 there). |
| 11:52.05 | Sevet | get get some information given via environment variables |
| 11:52.24 | Sevet | *you get |
| 11:52.26 | Sevet | such as device |
| 11:52.28 | Sevet | you'd need to figure out how to detect the gw |
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| 11:53.28 | ectospasm | bartzy: you'd have to pull in the .deb from wheezy (if that has it), or sid, and then pull in all of its dependencies... |
| 11:53.51 | ectospasm | ...probably would be better off upgrading to wheezy at that point. |
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| 11:54.03 | bartzy | But I can backport the package from wheezy. |
| 11:54.03 | ankr | In command line Ctrl+k deletes from cursor to the end of line... Is there any way to delete from cursor untill next word/whitespace |
| 11:54.08 | bartzy | Instead of directly installing from wheezy. |
| 11:55.49 | lipiec | hi, is there a way to throttle writes/reads on LVM/LXC? |
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| 11:57.39 | markovh | i'm trying to think of a gui debugger that was a wrapper for gdb that was in lenny but removed from squeeze. i think it began with an "i" and was like "inspect" or something like that |
| 11:57.42 | markovh | anyone help me out? |
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| 11:58.56 | markovh | nvn i think it's insight |
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| 12:02.25 | doublehp | PXE using latest kernel http://tiny.cc/y0s7sw "can't load module yenta_socket". Nic is RTL8139, and I can't find driver in the list. any tip ? |
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| 12:06.13 | fen | ok, another try: is there a tool to move the status of an installed package in /var/lib/dpkg/status from "install ok installed" to "deinstall ok config-files"? |
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| 12:06.47 | fen | or is it safe to do it with an editor? |
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| 12:10.39 | Sevet | is there any technical reason there's no squeeze-backport of openssl 1.0.1? |
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| 12:14.48 | jelly | fen: ask in ##linux dude, unless you're running Debian (that tool is dpkg --remove packagename btw) |
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| 12:15.33 | jelly | Sevet: no package in squeeze-backports requires it |
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| 12:17.04 | Sevet | jelly: true, i'm needing a new option to the openssl rsa command though that isn't in 1.0.1 |
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| 12:17.38 | Sevet | just wondering whether i can build it myself or whether that's likely to cause problems for other stuff on the system |
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| 12:18.05 | Sevet | *isn't in 0.9.8 |
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| 14:55.12 | *** topic/#debian is squeeze (6.0.7) released; /msg dpkg squeeze | jessie will be wheezy+1 | lenny EOL 2012-02-06; /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze | wheezy frozen; /msg dpkg freeze | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg pastebin | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | wheezy/sid: #debian-next on irc.oftc.net | FAQ: http://deb.li/IRCFAQ | channel logs: http://deb.li/yQXC |
| 14:55.25 | lsz | how to learn about debian. |
| 14:55.55 | phix | talk in here |
| 14:56.00 | phix | pr read the manual |
| 14:56.04 | Alroy | It says Product: W9967CF but that's the wrong one. |
| 14:56.05 | phix | pr = or |
| 14:56.41 | Lars_G | lsz: visit the page, read the manuals |
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| 14:57.43 | leehambley | hi all, how can one debug an apache2 runit/runsv script that you can't kill, `sv stop apache2` makes it come back, it's not existing in /etc/init.d/apache2, it's just in /etc/sv/apache2, and symlinked to the right place |
| 14:57.57 | leehambley | is there a log of all control commands received by runsvdir/runsv ? |
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| 14:59.14 | Alroy | http://connect.creativelabs.com/opensource/Lists/Webcams/DispForm.aspx?ID=42 |
| 14:59.22 | Alroy | That's the cam. |
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| 15:02.09 | phix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWfph3iNC-k |
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| 15:03.11 | Derpadong | Anyone know of a online site to test bash scripts? |
| 15:03.23 | Alroy | Can I somehow help to support it? |
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| 15:03.41 | Alroy | Seems like the Micronix MX88L60UC controller chip isn't supported at all. |
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| 15:04.05 | phix | Alroy: who cares, just base jump |
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| 15:04.25 | zykotick9 | Derpadong: you can try http://www.vidarholen.net/contents/shellcheck/ for sh/bash scripts |
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| 15:07.21 | Derpadong | zykotick9: Thanks for the link |
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| 15:08.42 | Tudela | hi guys! |
| 15:08.43 | Tudela | I am explorinf raspbian right now… |
| 15:08.43 | Tudela | I was wondering how do you set a file to open automaticlaly after booting. Thanks! |
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| 15:08.57 | wh1t3r4bb1t | hello |
| 15:09.21 | Derpadong | Well everything works right |
| 15:09.49 | zykotick9 | !tell Tudela about raspbian |
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| 15:10.13 | wh1t3r4bb1t | I'm trying to setup a server that will only talk to 1 specific IP and a range for remote administration. Can anyone help me? |
| 15:10.18 | wh1t3r4bb1t | in n00b |
| 15:10.25 | wh1t3r4bb1t | is* |
| 15:11.17 | guest27241 | follow the wh1t3r4bb1t |
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| 15:12.11 | Towzzer | god, i wish they didn't make a matrix 2 and 3 |
| 15:12.22 | Towzzer | whiterabbit, what is remote administration? |
| 15:12.24 | Towzzer | like ssh access? |
| 15:12.41 | awktion_ | TEH CAN BE |
| 15:12.43 | awktion_ | -caps |
| 15:13.33 | wh1t3r4bb1t | like ssh |
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| 15:13.50 | Towzzer | use iptables to create a rule that only incoming on that ip is allowed for ssh |
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| 15:14.08 | wh1t3r4bb1t | remote server administration... adding users etc.. |
| 15:14.09 | Towzzer | one rule for the one ip and another for the range |
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| 15:15.02 | wh1t3r4bb1t | OK, sounds good. How? |
| 15:15.18 | wh1t3r4bb1t | I don't even know what IP tables are. |
| 15:15.29 | Pei | eeo |
| 15:15.31 | Pei | eep* |
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| 15:16.00 | Towzzer | iptables is a firewall in linux |
| 15:16.02 | Pymous | Hello ! |
| 15:16.16 | Towzzer | http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/02/iptables-add-rule/ |
| 15:16.25 | Pymous | I'm trying to simulate a press of the Enter key inside a screen from ... outside of it |
| 15:16.26 | Towzzer | that has a great howto that includes ssh examples sir |
| 15:16.38 | Pymous | I already know how to send something to the screen, but not how to validate it, like : |
| 15:16.44 | wh1t3r4bb1t | Towzzer: My name has nothing to do with Matrix. FYI and Matrix stole the white rabbit thing in the first place. |
| 15:16.44 | Pymous | screen -dr minecraft -X stuff "say Test ! " |
| 15:16.55 | Towzzer | where it is from |
| 15:16.57 | Pymous | But its just write "say Test ! " but doesn't validate it |
| 15:17.00 | Towzzer | oh |
| 15:17.05 | Towzzer | alice in wonderland |
| 15:17.10 | Towzzer | she follows the white rabbit down the hole |
| 15:17.12 | wh1t3r4bb1t | Yes |
| 15:17.24 | Towzzer | well the matrix 2 and 3 still sucked :D |
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| 15:17.57 | wh1t3r4bb1t | Yay for YO. Now I look at link and figure out tehn come back if need help. Thanks |
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| 15:19.15 | invariant | Why can't I install libcurl4-gnutls-dev and libcurl4-openssl-dev at the same time? |
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| 15:19.47 | invariant | I know they provide the same headers, but they could just be installed in subdirectories, no? |
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| 15:20.59 | EagleRock | Pymous: putting \n at the end doesn't work? |
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| 15:21.36 | Pymous | EagleRock > Nop, it's just add the \n |
| 15:21.39 | Pymous | But I found a way ! |
| 15:21.46 | Pymous | screen -S minecraft -X stuff "my command`echo -ne '\015'`" |
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| 15:22.29 | EagleRock | Pymous: good. I use some convoluted script I found years ago to write stuff in minecraft console, but your way is cleaner |
| 15:22.37 | somiaj | invariant: Why do you need both installed at the same time? You could beuild another build enviorment inside a chroot for the other one |
| 15:22.44 | cardamon | wh1t3r4bb1t: You sound young. |
| 15:23.19 | invariant | somiaj, setting up a chroot (and maintaining it!) for just building a tarball? |
| 15:23.21 | somiaj | invariant: as to why, I'm sure there are some issues and the matainer decided that it was best to make them conflict and not go though all the extra work to split things up. |
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| 15:23.48 | invariant | somiaj, so, you are saying that the maintainer was lazy such that millions of people could setup a chroot. |
| 15:23.51 | somiaj | invariant: I do it all the time, you could even use pbuilder if you want to automate it |
| 15:23.58 | invariant | somiaj, I thought that was the point of a distribution. |
| 15:24.19 | wh1t3r4bb1t | cardamon: You sound judgmental. |
| 15:24.22 | Alroy | How to support Micronix MX88L60UC? The webcam isn't working properly. |
| 15:24.26 | awktion_ | i iz judgemental |
| 15:24.33 | somiaj | invariant: no I'm saying there are probably other issues. And I'm sure it is not that the matainer is lazy, rember they are volenteers and we already have many ophaned packages. |
| 15:24.34 | frikinz | can't you install both with dpkg --instdir=/distro --admindir=/distro ? |
| 15:24.47 | awktion_ | wh1t3r4bb1t: dont do what they are saying |
| 15:24.51 | awktion_ | use hosts.allow |
| 15:25.10 | awktion_ | http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl5_hostsal.htm |
| 15:25.16 | wh1t3r4bb1t | I'll read this for myself then come back if I need help |
| 15:25.16 | invariant | somiaj, how long does it take to build a chroot for you with pbuilder? |
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| 15:25.23 | awktion_ | iptables is good, and can drop packets, but START with the hosts.allow at least |
| 15:25.33 | awktion_ | basically, you deny all, unless its in there |
| 15:25.42 | Towzzer | yeah, that's true, I should have told him that |
| 15:25.44 | Towzzer | it's easier |
| 15:25.45 | Pei | ;) |
| 15:25.47 | awktion_ | :) |
| 15:25.51 | Pei | yeah Towzzer :0 |
| 15:25.51 | invariant | somiaj, I think that only works when you have some server running somewhere with a TB of space or something like that with a Gb internet connection. |
| 15:25.52 | Pei | hehe |
| 15:26.03 | awktion_ | Towzzer is totally right though, once you have that in, and have validated it, THEN you start with iptables |
| 15:26.07 | somiaj | invariant: I don't use pbuilder. I use debootstrap (takes as long as it takes to download the databasically). After that takes maybe another 10-15 mins to wait will I install build-essential and all the libaries I need. If you have a local repo, makes it far quicker. |
| 15:26.11 | awktion_ | lock that sucker down ;) |
| 15:26.13 | awktion_ | !harden |
| 15:26.14 | dpkg | To secure and harden a Debian GNU/Linux system, ask me about <securing debian> and <security>. See also <security backports>, <tracker of doom>, <d:sbd>, <grsecurity>, <exec shield>. |
| 15:26.16 | wh1t3r4bb1t | i don't care about easier |
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| 15:26.22 | wh1t3r4bb1t | I care about more secure |
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| 15:26.27 | wh1t3r4bb1t | brb |
| 15:26.32 | awktion_ | wh1t3r4bb1t: its the right way to do it |
| 15:26.45 | awktion_ | you don't put up a firewall before you make sure you are on the acl ;) |
| 15:26.51 | invariant | Why doesn't Debian come with those security features out of the box? |
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| 15:27.09 | awktion_ | firewall is live, but no rules, set some allows, set up the deny with a cronjob to change it back to allow if there is an issue |
| 15:27.24 | Towzzer | the default is iptables allows all on debian |
| 15:27.28 | Towzzer | post installation |
| 15:27.31 | awktion_ | test it, hosts.allow and hosts.deny are working, THEN we do the firewall with the same kinda pragma |
| 15:27.34 | awktion_ | yup |
| 15:27.48 | awktion_ | first secure daemon, then full box |
| 15:27.58 | Pei | :) |
| 15:27.59 | awktion_ | you might also if the machine has multiple ips, limit ssh to one of them only. |
| 15:28.12 | Towzzer | windows xp sp2 comes with the firewall on |
| 15:28.17 | Towzzer | what's the more secure system, eh? |
| 15:28.21 | Pei | that's windows |
| 15:28.25 | wh1t3r4bb1t | nano ???? for hosts. |
| 15:28.26 | Pei | :O |
| 15:28.30 | Pei | jed |
| 15:28.32 | Pei | :P |
| 15:28.36 | confusid | Hi, is there a way to force a console login to expire? I left my laptop on over night and root was logged in and still is. |
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| 15:28.43 | Pei | likes the 'jed' editor |
| 15:28.44 | Pei | :) |
| 15:28.45 | Pei | hehe |
| 15:28.46 | somiaj | invariant: http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/curl.html -- all of those packages come from the same source package. There are probabaly other issues than just making multiple dirs for the headers. It could be they are set up with differnt options and allowing users to mix them would cause more issues. You could parse though the changelog, mailing list and see if this issue has been documented |
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| 15:29.06 | somiaj | invariant: again why do you need both installed? |
| 15:29.47 | invariant | somiaj, some programs depend on one package and others on the other. |
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| 15:30.04 | somiaj | invariant: programs are depending on header packages? |
| 15:30.13 | wh1t3r4bb1t | nvm found it |
| 15:30.16 | invariant | somiaj, apparently. |
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| 15:30.33 | invariant | somiaj, perhaps I can just rip out the conditionals. |
| 15:30.42 | invariant | somiaj, it's quite crazy, yes. |
| 15:30.58 | invariant | somiaj, then again, this particular package doesn't even support a build directory... |
| 15:31.02 | somiaj | invariant: what packages are causing this conflict? If you really think it is a bug there is the BTS. My guess is there is reason for why they are split up this way. |
| 15:31.05 | awktion_ | somiaj: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/3374/force-logout-after-24-hours-idle |
| 15:31.10 | awktion_ | looks very related |
| 15:31.16 | awktion_ | er |
| 15:31.37 | awktion_ | apologies somiaj that was actually for confusid |
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| 15:33.16 | somiaj | invariant: yea the difference between those packages is what SSL support you are using. Anyreason why you want multiple SSL libs? |
| 15:33.37 | invariant | somiaj, no |
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| 15:34.26 | invariant | somiaj, I think I already know of a way around the problem. |
| 15:34.32 | passstab | ? |
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| 15:34.55 | awktion_ | invariant: whats your issue and goal again? |
| 15:34.57 | passstab | did i do something wrong? |
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| 15:35.17 | confusid | found it! export TMOUT=60 |
| 15:35.20 | invariant | passstab, endou is asking for a kick/ban. |
| 15:35.41 | passstab | why? |
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| 15:35.57 | Somatt | hi |
| 15:36.00 | awktion_ | eh nvm |
| 15:36.02 | somiaj | awktion_: he is wondering why libcurl4-openssl conflicts with libcurl4-gnutls. |
| 15:36.03 | awktion_ | hai |
| 15:36.06 | bartzy | hello |
| 15:36.08 | awktion_ | oh |
| 15:36.20 | bartzy | trying to recompile php5.4 but with uupdate to latest upstream version , I get this: |
| 15:36.21 | bartzy | Hunk #2 FAILED at 323. |
| 15:36.21 | bartzy | 1 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- rejects in file Zend/zend_hash.h |
| 15:36.25 | bartzy | Any idea ? :| |
| 15:36.30 | awktion_ | usually packages both/all put down a file in the same place |
| 15:36.34 | Somatt | I'm having trouble making iptables allow fxp transfers to my box. Anyone could give me a hint on what would be required to do so ? |
| 15:36.56 | passstab | what did i do? |
| 15:37.04 | somiaj | bartzy: looks like the debian patches are not applying cleanly to the upstream version of php. Are you trying to get a newer version of php on squeeze? |
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| 15:38.22 | endou | invariant: sorry, missclick in xterm |
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| 15:38.45 | awktion_ | Somatt: what ftp daemon? |
| 15:38.52 | Somatt | awktion_: pureftpd |
| 15:39.27 | Somatt | awktion_: but I think it's only related to iptables, as when I deactivate it fxp works fine |
| 15:39.40 | Somatt | and I've already told pureftpd to allow for fxp |
| 15:40.22 | bartzy | somiaj: Yes. |
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| 15:40.34 | bartzy | somiaj: I was able to recompile php 5.4.4 from sid sources. |
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| 15:40.49 | passstab | oh good |
| 15:40.53 | bartzy | somiaj: And I got all the php5 packages for 5.4.4, which is great. But I didn't accomplish that with uupdate and 5.4.12... |
| 15:40.55 | somiaj | bartzy: what upstream version are you trying to update to with uupdate? |
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| 15:41.11 | bartzy | somiaj: 5.4.12 , just thought to get the latest if I'm updating anyway... |
| 15:41.12 | awktion_ | Somatt: then why not netstat/netcat or something to check what its using? |
| 15:41.32 | Somatt | netstat -a |
| 15:41.34 | Somatt | oops |
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| 15:41.38 | somiaj | bartzy: yea it appears that there is enough difference between 5.4.4 and 5.4.12 to cause some of the custom debian php patches to fail. In this case you could try to fix the issue. Why do you need 5.4.12 vs 5.4.4? |
| 15:42.01 | Somatt | awktion_: I'm not really familiar with thoses |
| 15:42.07 | awktion_ | can you connect to the ftp when iptables is up? |
| 15:42.09 | bartzy | somiaj: No real reason - I just saw a lot of bug fixes since 5.4.4 , so I thought it would be better |
| 15:42.10 | awktion_ | just not fxp? |
| 15:42.21 | awktion_ | ftp needs 21,20 connection,data iirc |
| 15:42.33 | Somatt | awktion_: I can connect, upload, download when iptables is up, but not fxp in either direction |
| 15:42.39 | bartzy | somiaj: But if you say it's a hassle, I'll just use 5.4.4 which works great by following the 'ssb' guidelines from 'dpkg' |
| 15:42.55 | Somatt | I don't use default ports, btw |
| 15:43.01 | awktion_ | fine fine |
| 15:43.04 | somiaj | bartzy: note debian does fix some bugs in its version, you could check the debian changelog in 5.4.4 and see if the bugs you are running across were fixed in debian |
| 15:43.15 | awktion_ | when u find out and pm me |
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| 15:43.20 | awktion_ | s/and/plz |
| 15:43.26 | awktion_ | tho, are you using passive or active |
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| 15:43.42 | Somatt | awktion_: passive |
| 15:44.03 | Somatt | and I told pureftpd which port it should use for this |
| 15:44.06 | Somatt | port range |
| 15:44.09 | awktion_ | are those ports open on fw also? |
| 15:44.10 | somiaj | bartzy: note, this is gonna be a security issue on your system, but that is beause you won't get timly security patches. Any reason the version in squeeze won't work? (note once wheezy is released this version will be getting full security support, and probabaly has a little bit right now, but you will have to recompile the package each time debian provides a security patch) |
| 15:44.15 | awktion_ | s/fw/iptables |
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| 15:44.35 | Somatt | awktion_: yes |
| 15:44.50 | bartzy | somiaj: Actually I didn't run into any bugs - I just thought it would be best. I guess it's not. |
| 15:45.06 | bartzy | somiaj: Yeah - there is a reason for not using squeeze's 5.3.3 version. We use a lot of 5.4's features. |
| 15:45.08 | somiaj | bartzy: but my guess is that is what is going on. Debian has been backporting/fixing bugs in the frozen version 5.4.4 that will be released with wheezy and they may be conflicting with the fixes in the upstream. |
| 15:45.40 | bartzy | somiaj: Ah. So basically the 5.4.4 in sid does actually have some/most of the fixes in 5.4.12 ? |
| 15:45.43 | somiaj | but until wheezy is released don't expect timely fixes and since you are making the package you have to keep an eye on this. |
| 15:46.27 | somiaj | bartzy: that is the same version as wheezy. You can check the BTS, but it may have some of them fixed (espcailly any that are considred release critical) |
| 15:46.37 | bartzy | somiaj: Yes, I know - but I don't have any alternative - I need to use >=5.4 , so I'll just have to recompile when something important is fixed (security for example). How/where can I keep my eye on this updates/fixes ? |
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| 15:47.11 | bartzy | somiaj: Is there a difference between backporting by myself from sid sources or from wheezy sources? dpkg here on the channel told me to do it from sid sources |
| 15:47.16 | somiaj | bartzy: you can add yourself to the DSA mailing list, and just keep an eye on it for php fixes (note it sometimes takes a bit for them to get into sid, but it is usually fairly quick) |
| 15:47.17 | bartzy | dpkg ssb |
| 15:47.17 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 15:47.20 | bartzy | somiaj: ^ |
| 15:47.21 | awktion_ | Somatt: very not sure then |
| 15:47.35 | somiaj | bartzy: the only difference is the source version you get. In this case no because they are the same in both. |
| 15:47.37 | Somatt | awktion_: I've pm'd you a link to the current rules |
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| 15:47.54 | bartzy | somiaj: But they won't continue be the same right ? |
| 15:47.55 | somiaj | bartzy: offical backports are usually from testing and not unstable. The factoid mentions sid beause that is usally the newest version which is what people may want. |
| 15:47.59 | Somatt | maybe there's something obvious I missed |
| 15:48.11 | somiaj | bartzy: correct, and the only thing you need to do differently is change your deb-src line to point at wheezy. Rest is the same |
| 15:48.20 | bartzy | somiaj: Ah. And for production servers - should I do wheezy or sid ? |
| 15:48.56 | somiaj | bartzy: php is just a common security weak point. unstable will get security fixes first (because of how things filter though). Once wheezy stabalizes that is a diferent story |
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| 15:49.19 | bartzy | Why that is a different story once wheezy is stable ? |
| 15:49.23 | somiaj | bartzy: though because stability is close, I think slowly wheezy packages are begging to get security support. But this is spotty |
| 15:49.32 | somiaj | bartzy: because once wheezy is stable, it will have full security support. |
| 15:49.36 | bartzy | ah |
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| 15:49.46 | bartzy | and than security fixes to it will come before unstable ? |
| 15:49.55 | bartzy | Isn't it a difference in hours between them ? |
| 15:50.43 | somiaj | bartzy: usually a security bug is fixed in the stable, oldstable version (via backporting the fix) and the version in sid (note sometimes sid just waits for the fix from upstream -- but many times sid version gets patched with the security fix) |
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| 15:51.43 | somiaj | yea stable security is the priority. The fix in sid could take a while depending on how long it takes to get new packages in sid. It is not a priority, but in some cases it gets a fix too |
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| 15:52.23 | bartzy | somiaj: OK. http://www.debian.org/security/ - this is where I see if php has a security fix , right ? |
| 15:52.24 | somiaj | but the DSA will send you security announcements and then you can decide what to do at that time (Depending on the actual vunability) |
| 15:52.27 | bartzy | I don't see many in 2012 |
| 15:52.47 | bartzy | so this is the place to watch for security issues - only here? :) |
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| 15:53.22 | somiaj | bartzy: just add yourself to the DSA mailing list, you will get an email for any secuirty annoucment from debian. This should cover most bases. |
| 15:53.41 | innatech | Hello. Is anyone familiar with mdadm re-assembling a 5 disk + 1 spare array as 6 active disks on reboot? |
| 15:53.58 | innatech | Or have any idea why that might occur? |
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| 15:54.22 | wh1t3r4bb1t | Ok have set hosts.deny to ALL: PARANOID |
| 15:54.26 | innatech | (this is RAID 5) |
| 15:54.36 | somiaj | bartzy: I was just saying if a php security issue is found (either from the DSA or other php security watches). You will have to track - fix it yourself (Which in some cases may just mean recompling from the fixed package in sid) |
| 15:54.50 | wh1t3r4bb1t | Also have set the hosts.allow to ALL: LOCAL @myhost |
| 15:55.33 | wh1t3r4bb1t | and ALL: my.remote.admin.range |
| 15:56.14 | wh1t3r4bb1t | and httpd: server.that.needs.to.access.api |
| 15:57.10 | bartzy | somiaj: Thanks a lot ! :D |
| 15:57.28 | bartzy | somiaj: That really cleared some unknowns for me when dealing with custom backports of my own. thanks. |
| 15:57.30 | wh1t3r4bb1t | Is that all correctly setup so I can restart the server/ |
| 15:57.32 | wh1t3r4bb1t | ? |
| 15:57.42 | somiaj | bartzy: another note, you may want to set up a wheezy test server. So if you run across any bugs you can see if they exist in wheezy as well. This way you can report/get fixes. As any bug on a this ssbp package won't be taken sersioually by debian (As it could be an issue with the mixxing and not the package) |
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| 15:58.25 | bartzy | somiaj: I never came across a bug in php before :) |
| 15:58.29 | bartzy | But that's just me |
| 15:58.54 | bartzy | but I understand what you mean. I won't be sending bugs with this custom ssb package :) |
| 15:58.59 | somiaj | bartzy: I think it will work fine. (: |
| 15:59.07 | wh1t3r4bb1t | What about the IP tables now? Do I deny all at the last line and plave my allows before that? |
| 15:59.22 | wh1t3r4bb1t | place* |
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| 16:01.12 | foxx | @all - having a little bit of confusion with makefiles and pdebuild (20 hours of banging my head against a wall).. the issue seems to be that the DESTDIR is not being passed to the makefile.. so when i attempt to do cp $(DESTDIR) etc, it gives a permission denied error.. but i cant understand why it wouldnt be passed. Any help at all on this would be greatly appreciated |
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| 16:02.09 | bartzy | somiaj: Do I need to keep the source package created by my ssb ? |
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| 16:03.01 | bartzy | or the debian source I created the .deb's for, for that matter ? |
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| 16:09.08 | bartzy | somiaj: ? :) |
| 16:09.41 | Somatt | it appears modprobe ip_conntrack_ftp throw an error "FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/3.2.13-grsec-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64/modules.dep: No such file or directory". Any idea why ? I don't recall having problem with this module when I first setup the iptables rules |
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| 16:10.19 | Somatt | /lib/modules is empty atm |
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| 16:11.15 | babilen | Somatt: That doesn't really look like a Debian kernel to me |
| 16:11.55 | Somatt | babilen: probably a custom one by my isp, but definitely a debian |
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| 16:12.11 | Somatt | I mean host provider not isp |
| 16:13.01 | babilen | Somatt: Well, normally you would have (among a bunch of other things) module dependency information in /lib/modules/$KERNEL/modules.dep -- You don't have that, which diverges from the standard Debian configuration. I would contact your hoster about that. |
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| 16:13.13 | bartzy | I just ran 'aptitude install' with no parameters - it gives me some packages to install - but aptitude upgrade doesn't give me any packages to upgrade. Why is that ? |
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| 16:13.40 | babilen | bartzy: scheduled actions -- run "aptitude keep-all" to cancel pending ones |
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| 16:15.38 | bartzy | babilen: How are those scheduled actions? Installing xorg on a server.. I never tried that - Where can I see when did I schedule them, or what command triggered it (i.e. which package that I once tried to install)... |
| 16:15.52 | wh1t3r4bb1t | well that didn't work. |
| 16:16.13 | pc_magas | Hello I have a vps and I want to setup a mailing list over there |
| 16:16.20 | pc_magas | how I will able to do that |
| 16:16.21 | babilen | bartzy: not sure -- would you mind providing the output on http://paste.debian.net ? I hunt down some information about this in the meanhile (I normally don't use aptitude for day-to-day tasks) |
| 16:16.21 | wh1t3r4bb1t | My rules were right so why did it block everything? |
| 16:16.40 | bartzy | babilen: Sure, thanks - output of aptitude install ? |
| 16:16.48 | babilen | pc_magas: You could, for example, install mailman and use that to manage your mailing list. |
| 16:16.56 | wh1t3r4bb1t | I set the allow first and the deny secondary for the hosts and the iptables and it still locked EVERYTHING out. |
| 16:17.03 | babilen | bartzy: yeah, and upgrade and "aptitude search ~U" and ..well, give me a second |
| 16:17.42 | pc_magas | babilen, do I need to have pop3 and smtp server fo coure right? |
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| 16:18.10 | wh1t3r4bb1t | If I give someone root to my VPS will they setup as I want please? I am having the worst time. This is my 9th time reinstalling the VPS. -_- |
| 16:18.45 | pc_magas | <wh1t3r4bb1t>What is the prob |
| 16:18.47 | pc_magas | ? |
| 16:18.54 | pc_magas | and what went wrong |
| 16:18.55 | pc_magas | ? |
| 16:18.57 | babilen | pc_magas: No, you don't need a pop3 server |
| 16:19.11 | awktion_ | wh1t3r4bb1t: rather than that if you need verbose help we can use #flood |
| 16:19.12 | pc_magas | babilen, only smtp? |
| 16:19.17 | awktion_ | its best to not give up root |
| 16:19.19 | awktion_ | ever. |
| 16:19.20 | babilen | dpkg: tell pc_magas about mailman |
| 16:19.32 | bartzy | babilen: I just installed a new php version and having a lot of diffs to do - just a sec :) |
| 16:19.33 | awktion_ | pm'd u |
| 16:19.35 | wh1t3r4bb1t | I'm trying to learn how to block everything accept 1 specified ip on httpd and a range for all protocols so I can use it for remote admin. |
| 16:19.43 | bartzy | so I can't access apt because it's lock.. finishing and pasting right away |
| 16:19.52 | awktion_ | ok |
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| 16:20.02 | awktion_ | what http daemon |
| 16:20.14 | wh1t3r4bb1t | apache2 |
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| 16:21.26 | babilen | bartzy: that doesn't sound like a supported or a good idea (installing a new PHP version) -- Where is it from? May I take a look at your "apt-cache policy" output? btw, no idea how to get aptitude to show pending actions. It might be obvious if you start it as "aptitude" and check in the TUI |
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| 16:22.00 | bartzy | babilen: I hate aptitude's "GUI" :) |
| 16:22.09 | bartzy | babilen: I'm installing a new PHP version because I need 5.4. |
| 16:22.13 | bartzy | babilen: Doing that by ssb |
| 16:22.13 | babilen | wh1t3r4bb1t: Well, there is a very knowledgeabe iptables channel at #netfilter |
| 16:22.16 | bartzy | (from sid) |
| 16:22.18 | pc_magas | <wh1t3r4bb1t> let the iptables to do the dirty job |
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| 16:22.28 | babilen | bartzy: Oh, you managed to backport 5.4 from sid? |
| 16:22.30 | pc_magas | Configure iptables and leave apacvhe alone |
| 16:22.50 | bartzy | babilen: I know it's not recommended - but I have to use 5.4 , and I understand that using dotdeb is discouraged (and I had some weird issues with dotdeb in the past) |
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| 16:23.08 | bartzy | babilen: Yes, it was pretty standard - I just followed the ssb instructions from the dpkg bot... |
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| 16:23.51 | babilen | bartzy: yeah, backporting it yourself is definitely the better idea. I simply had the impression that it is not possible or that it'll lead to problems. (I would have considered upgrading to wheezy if applicable) |
| 16:24.05 | babilen | bartzy: Good to know, thanks :) |
| 16:24.20 | wh1t3r4bb1t | One person says use iptables ten another says use hosts.allow/deny then yet another says use the apache config file -_- |
| 16:24.31 | babilen | bartzy: And why is it /always/ PHP that just simply /has to be/ a very specific /very new/ version? |
| 16:24.41 | pc_magas | does mailman needs apache to run? |
| 16:24.42 | bartzy | babilen: Why wouldn't it be possible? Because PHP is huge ? |
| 16:25.03 | babilen | pc_magas: Yes, it offers archives and subscription via a web interface |
| 16:25.24 | bartzy | babilen: Well, I guess they're doing a lot of changes between minor versions, and we want to use those changes :) For example - arrays can now be declared with [ ] instead of array() . That's huge :p |
| 16:25.33 | pc_magas | <babilen> and is written into python right? |
| 16:26.16 | babilen | bartzy: Because the packages have been adapted for multiarch or make other wheezy specific assumptions, because build dependencies cannot be satsified, because it would cause the recompilation of /all other/ packages that depends on PHP, ... (that is just what popped into my mind, if it is as easy as following ssb then, well, yay) |
| 16:27.44 | bartzy | babilen: Yeah, it had a dependency on a new psmisc version (weird?!), but thankfully, that was resolved by upgrading psmisc from squeeze-backports version. |
| 16:27.49 | bartzy | and that's it, it just works |
| 16:27.55 | babilen | bartzy: It really was a rhetorical question. I simply have the impression that PHP is a horrible language and "NEED version X.Y.Z.A.B exactly!!!" is a part of that. but lets stop it as it leads nowhere … |
| 16:28.10 | bartzy | babilen: Do you still need my pastes - or there is no way to know how the pending actions got there ? |
| 16:28.27 | babilen | bartzy: not sure, do they go away if you run "aptitude keep-all" ? |
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| 16:29.58 | yosvany | I would like to set an active directory and domain controller using debian, any ideas or url ??? |
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| 16:31.19 | Towzzer | yosvany, do you mean you want to authenticate to those? |
| 16:31.36 | bartzy | babilen: Yes, it did. |
| 16:31.40 | yosvany | yes, windows clients most of them |
| 16:31.42 | bartzy | Where does it store the pending stuff ? In the apt db ? |
| 16:32.27 | Towzzer | yosvany, I know it's possible but it's complicated |
| 16:34.03 | babilen | bartzy: I don't know |
| 16:34.21 | yosvany | I know it is, but that's the only service I have running on windows, I need to get rid of it. |
| 16:34.38 | bartzy | babilen: One issue. I installed my php5.4.4 deb files, all is good. Now I want to install php-apc package from squeeze-backports. It says it can't because it needs libapache2-mod-php. Why does it need that? :\ I have php5-fpm installed, and it is supposed to be a replacement for that mod-php apache module |
| 16:35.26 | babilen | pc_magas: There are other mailing list managers though (e.g. smartlist, "debtags search mail::list") by the way |
| 16:35.54 | babilen | bartzy: I guess that php-apc depends on libapache2-mod-php |
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| 16:36.15 | bartzy | babilen: I have it installed on other systems with php 5.3.3 , and no libapache2-mod-php... that's very weird |
| 16:36.39 | bartzy | Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3), phpapi-20090626+lfs |
| 16:36.47 | babilen | bartzy: Mind showing me the output? |
| 16:36.53 | bartzy | That is php-apc depend line. I have no idea what is phpapi-20090626+lfs ... |
| 16:37.37 | bartzy | http://packages.debian.org/sid/phpapi-20090626+lfs |
| 16:37.40 | obiwahn | is it useful to put /var/log on a non SSD disk |
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| 16:37.45 | babilen | bartzy: I can't find a dependency chain between those two packages |
| 16:37.46 | obiwahn | ir are the acesses not so bad? |
| 16:38.01 | obiwahn | maybe i could use a tmpfs and sync back on shutdown |
| 16:38.12 | obiwahn | i would like to know what you think:) |
| 16:38.14 | bartzy | babilen: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze-backports/php-apc |
| 16:38.17 | bartzy | What is that phpapi stuff ? |
| 16:38.23 | bartzy | How can I see what is my phpapi virtual package |
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| 16:38.57 | babilen | bartzy: It's a virtual packages -- It simply means that /something/ that provides phpapi-20090626+lfs has to be installed. (php-fpm for example provides it) |
| 16:39.08 | bartzy | babilen: OK. It is installed |
| 16:39.12 | babilen | bartzy: But please, show me the output .. |
| 16:39.18 | babilen | bartzy: What is installed? |
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| 16:39.44 | bartzy | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/238880/ |
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| 16:41.44 | babilen | bartzy: The php5-fpm you have installed provides phpapi-20100525 not phpapi-20090626+lfs |
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| 16:41.59 | bartzy | babilen: Right. That's better, isn't it ? :P |
| 16:42.17 | babilen | bartzy: yeah, but it doesn't match |
| 16:42.26 | bartzy | so I can't install php-apc ? |
| 16:42.44 | babilen | judd: depends php-apc --release sid |
| 16:42.46 | judd | Package php-apc in sid/i386 -- depends: libc6 (>= 2.3), phpapi-20100525+lfs. |
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| 16:43.59 | babilen | bartzy: I guess that you have to backport that as well (that was what I meant: You'll end up backports /everything/ that has to do with PHP) |
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| 16:44.31 | bartzy | babilen: :\ |
| 16:44.32 | bartzy | thanks |
| 16:44.33 | bark_ | there's not really any information in the wheezy section for ati non-free http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#Wheezy is it the same procedure as squeeze (presumably with a different kernel)? |
| 16:44.37 | babilen | bartzy: The version in squeeze-backports is meant to work on squeeze (not with packages from sid) |
| 16:44.52 | bartzy | it worked once when I tried to ssb 5.3.9 at the time |
| 16:45.01 | bartzy | (it worked = php-apc from squeeze backports) |
| 16:45.13 | bartzy | I guess 5.3.9 provided phpapi-20090626+lfs |
| 16:45.25 | babilen | bartzy: Well, as I said: I would consider simply using wheezy (or developing against the version of PHP you deploy on, it can't be that hard to write backwards compatible code, even in PHP) |
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| 16:46.10 | wh1t3r4bb1t | This seems like it should be extremely simple and I should only need to set this up at one level. |
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| 16:46.26 | cjdavies | have there been 2x new kernels for stable in the last few days or something? |
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| 16:47.06 | bartzy | babilen: running wheeze in production servers - isn't that not so good ? |
| 16:47.08 | wh1t3r4bb1t | But I de need to have bitcoind talk to the outside world... What I really need is step by step instructions on how to do this. |
| 16:47.22 | wh1t3r4bb1t | do* |
| 16:48.00 | wh1t3r4bb1t | Here is the list of things I need to have... |
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| 16:48.45 | wh1t3r4bb1t | 1) bitcoind must be able to talk to the bitcoin network without getting ddos. |
| 16:49.31 | awktion_ | ok guiz |
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| 16:49.38 | awktion_ | basically he needs this (i'm at work) |
| 16:49.41 | wh1t3r4bb1t | 2) I need to block all access to httpd except for from one IP. |
| 16:49.49 | awktion_ | 1. htaccess with 'require ip' for a single ip and an ip range |
| 16:49.54 | awktion_ | 2. iptables rules: |
| 16:49.55 | babilen | bartzy: Well, it is not generally recommended, but is probably okayish at this point in the release cycle. You can keep on backporting everything, but that setup is certainly even less testing. (you might be the only person running that configuration) |
| 16:50.08 | babilen | bartzy: My recommendation: Develop against the version you deploy on |
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| 16:50.30 | awktion_ | a. ip range for ports 1-79; single ip plus range for 80; ip range for 81-442; single ip plus range for 443; range for 444-65535 |
| 16:50.42 | awktion_ | that should accomplish his goal |
| 16:51.02 | awktion_ | iirc for the .htaccess he can put @ docroot and it propagates downwards through the folder structure? |
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| 16:51.09 | bartzy | babilen: I deploy on 5.4 |
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| 16:51.36 | awktion_ | he needs keystrokes fyi |
| 16:51.38 | babilen | bartzy: Well, then you don't deploy on squeeze |
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| 16:51.58 | bartzy | babilen: Well, now it's more easy to say it's OK to run wheezy, but what if we were one year ago and wheezy being stable was still far in the future - then running it in production servers wouldn't be as good |
| 16:52.30 | wh1t3r4bb1t | 3) I need to block all access to the machine (except bitcoind's functionality and interaction wit the bitcoin network) leaving open hole to access from a range of IPs that will be used for remote admin. *(the remote admin must be able to access everything, all protocols, ports etc.) |
| 16:52.40 | babilen | bartzy: yeah, I totally agree |
| 16:52.51 | awktion_ | wh1t3r4bb1t: #debian should be able to give keystroke by keystroke guide for this |
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| 16:53.10 | awktion_ | <sorry @ work :/> |
| 16:53.15 | wh1t3r4bb1t | I know |
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| 16:53.29 | wh1t3r4bb1t | is ok awktion |
| 16:53.49 | awktion_ | questions: 1. what authtype for him to put |
| 16:53.57 | awktion_ | 2. does authname really matter? |
| 16:54.12 | bartzy | babilen: OK :) |
| 16:54.24 | awktion_ | 3. if just using 'require ip' does he need anything but that one line for his apache? |
| 16:54.47 | babilen | wh1t3r4bb1t: Ask in #netfilter /after/ reading the great tutorials linked in their /topic -- you might also want to consider to use an iptables frontend such as firehol for easier configuration. Firewalls are a complex tool and you have to learn it. Read the documentation and /learn it/ if you want to. #netfilter can (and will) provide pointers |
| 16:55.09 | awktion_ | e.g.; echo 'require ip 12.23.34.45, 23.34.45.56/29' >> /var/www/.htaccess <-- ? |
| 16:55.24 | babilen | wh1t3r4bb1t: Also see http://wiki.debian.org/Firewalls for a list of frontends |
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| 16:55.24 | awktion_ | babilen: tyvm |
| 16:55.24 | awktion_ | wanders mostly off |
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| 16:56.44 | KsM | would an fsck help if I'm getting ecryptfs errors |
| 16:56.50 | KsM | like [14995.866653] Valid eCryptfs headers not found in file header region or xattr region, inode 5509401 |
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| 16:57.13 | babilen | firehol has problems with IPv6 though .. shorewall or ferm ro whatever might be a better choice *shrug* |
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| 16:59.51 | wh1t3r4bb1t | okay |
| 16:59.56 | wh1t3r4bb1t | reading up first |
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| 17:00.11 | wh1t3r4bb1t | thanks |
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| 17:06.12 | jelly | KsM: probably better to ask in irc://irc.oftc.net/ecryptfs |
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| 17:06.37 | n8w | hey guys |
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| 17:07.48 | n8w | im running debian lenny on embedded device n i need to update gcc to 4.4.* ..is there a way of doin it? |
| 17:10.07 | babilen | n8w: upgrade to squeeze |
| 17:10.11 | ChrisH | n8w: lenny is out of support? update? |
| 17:10.14 | babilen | dpkg: tell n8w -about release notes |
| 17:10.23 | babilen | dpkg: tell n8w -about lenny->squeeze |
| 17:11.01 | babilen | n8w: Note that you'll have to upgrade to wheezy soonish (once that has been released) -- lenny has not been supported for quite a while now. |
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| 17:13.30 | n8w | babilen, well if i was allowed to upgrade i would have done it long time ago...im not runnin this prehistoric piece bcoz i want to |
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| 17:13.37 | HardDisk_WP | how do I find all empty directories? |
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| 17:14.01 | n8w | ChrisH, unfortunately thats a no go for me |
| 17:14.10 | HardDisk_WP | n8w, well you could set up your apt sources.list to archive.debian.org |
| 17:14.11 | ChrisH | n8w: check http://archive.debian.org/ |
| 17:14.13 | babilen | HardDisk_WP: In which programming language? |
| 17:14.28 | babilen | ... that still won't get n8w gcc-4.4 |
| 17:14.32 | HardDisk_WP | then install the building dependencies of gcc and build from raw source |
| 17:14.45 | babilen | yeah, backporting gcc \o/ |
| 17:15.07 | HardDisk_WP | babilen, I agree it sucks, but I know his situation |
| 17:15.22 | HardDisk_WP | n8w, let me guess, grown system no one ever cared to document? |
| 17:15.51 | n8w | HardDisk_WP, hehe well yes and no |
| 17:15.53 | HardDisk_WP | babilen, shellscript or whatever, basically I just need a \n-separated list on stdout |
| 17:16.06 | HardDisk_WP | the best would be a "find" command |
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| 17:17.44 | darsie | How long till wheezy becomes stable? 3, 6, 12, 18 months? |
| 17:17.47 | n8w | its kinda unfortunate coz i need to install numpy but it fails with gcc 4.3 |
| 17:18.03 | babilen | HardDisk_WP: find directory -mindepth 1 -type d -empty comes to mind, ask #bash |
| 17:18.22 | HardDisk_WP | -empty is a find-filter? ok let me try |
| 17:18.44 | babilen | n8w: numpy is in lenny (python-numpy) |
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| 17:18.59 | babilen | judd: v python-numpy |
| 17:19.00 | judd | Package: python-numpy on i386 -- lenny: 1:1.1.0-3+lenny1; squeeze: 1:1.4.1-5; wheezy: 1:1.6.2-1; sid: 1:1.6.2-1.1; experimental: 1:1.7.0-1 |
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| 17:19.32 | babilen | darsie: no idea, but 3 sounds about right |
| 17:19.37 | n8w | babilen, i do python stuff via pip |
| 17:19.38 | babilen | dpkg: tell darsie -about rc bugs |
| 17:19.55 | darsie | thx |
| 17:19.55 | babilen | n8w: Well, then install a version that works on lenny |
| 17:20.23 | n8w | babilen, ye u r right..its there..unexpected:) thx |
| 17:21.21 | babilen | n8w: btw, pip works fine with site-packages ... I would recommend to do this. But seriously: lenny is not supported /at all/ anymore and even squeeze will be oldstable soon .. you /have/ to think about a way forward. The sooner the better. |
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| 17:21.40 | babilen | dpkg: tell n8w -about lenny sources.list |
| 17:21.46 | babilen | dpkg: tell n8w -about lenny |
| 17:22.34 | n8w | babilen, sure thing...its running on embedded device, so its not like its my primary system...i would die of it was... |
| 17:22.49 | HardDisk_WP | n8w, is this a NSLU2 by any chance? |
| 17:22.49 | n8w | *if it |
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| 17:23.37 | babilen | waves |
| 17:23.42 | n8w | HardDisk_WP, nope...multiprotocol base station |
| 17:24.01 | HardDisk_WP | n8w, base station, as in GSM/CDMA or WiFi? |
| 17:24.21 | n8w | HardDisk_WP, wifi,zigbee... |
| 17:24.31 | n8w | gprs |
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| 17:24.42 | HardDisk_WP | a gprs base station? .oO |
| 17:24.55 | HardDisk_WP | I think I understand why there's no real way to upgrade :D |
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| 17:25.57 | n8w | HardDisk_WP, gprs sup |
| 17:25.58 | DebianUsr | Hello all. I am wondering is this a good guide on how to upgrade your kernel completely? I'm not exactly upgrading but I figure when/if I ever have to, this will work? http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
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| 17:26.58 | somiaj | DebianUsr: that is the guide to upgrade squeeze to wheezy. So I don't know what you ment by 'upgrade your kernel completely' |
| 17:27.13 | n8w | HardDisk_WP, i would b happy to upgrade, but im pretty sure that it would go down |
| 17:27.23 | HardDisk_WP | n8w, hmm is your memory flash? |
| 17:27.34 | HardDisk_WP | or is the OS stored on SD/CF/disk? |
| 17:27.40 | somiaj | DebianUsr: but yes those are the testing version of what will become the offical release notes for wheezy |
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| 17:28.30 | n8w | HardDisk_WP, i know what u r thinkin of...i have got a backup, but dont rly feel like takin it down |
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| 17:28.39 | n8w | HardDisk_WP, but yes that a way... |
| 17:28.39 | DebianUsr | somiaj; how can i upgrade my system to a new version name of whatever? |
| 17:28.58 | somiaj | DebianUsr: depends on what do you want to upgrade and why. |
| 17:29.09 | HardDisk_WP | n8w, if I may ask, why dont you want downtime? |
| 17:29.17 | somiaj | DebianUsr: that is for a full upgrade from squeeze to wheezy, which is still now a testing version (though it will stabalize soon) |
| 17:29.40 | DebianUsr | somiaj, i'm trying to ask for instance if debian came out with a new version, how would i upgrade it |
| 17:29.42 | somiaj | DebianUsr: if you only need a newer version of a few programs (such as the kernel) there are backports for that. |
| 17:29.57 | somiaj | DebianUsr: you would follow the release notes, along with /msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy |
| 17:30.02 | DebianUsr | the entire OS somiaj |
| 17:30.06 | DebianUsr | ok |
| 17:30.09 | DebianUsr | that works thanks |
| 17:30.10 | n8w | HardDisk_WP, boz currently workin on smth which i need to finish first..once its workin, sys upgrade part takes its place |
| 17:30.19 | HardDisk_WP | ah ok |
| 17:30.28 | somiaj | DebianUsr: my comment is you said 'upgrade my kernel' which is not the same as all of debian. and my answer was that is the release notes to upgrade the debian version (not just the kernel) |
| 17:30.38 | somiaj | DebianUsr: if all you need is a newer kernel, grab the one from backports |
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| 17:31.15 | DebianUsr | somiaj, ok so the kernel isnt the same as the entire OS. lol. got it |
| 17:31.21 | n8w | HardDisk_WP, but yes...i guess upgrading the sys is the only way out...its drivin me crazy sometimes |
| 17:31.49 | n8w | HardDisk_WP, anywai...thx for the input:) gtg |
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| 17:32.25 | somiaj | DebianUsr: the kernel is the pice of software which is the laywer between the programs and the hardware. |
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| 17:36.39 | HardDisk_WP | n8w, you're welcome, cya |
| 17:36.43 | HardDisk_WP | and good luck :) |
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| 17:37.18 | bartzy | http://paste.debian.net/238893/ |
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| 17:37.38 | bartzy | Any idea why the package didn't install apc.ini in /etc/php5/conf.d/ ? see the paste - it's listed there |
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| 17:40.00 | bartzy | somiaj: ? :) |
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| 17:40.16 | zerick | Hi guys, just curiosity, what exactly means "Breaks:" when you run "apt-cache depends package" |
| 17:40.18 | grandie | where must i setxkbmap to have it take effect |
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| 17:40.45 | somiaj | bartzy: my first issue is why are you installing a deb as opposed to using apt. Makes me wonder where you got this deb and if it is even for your version of debian. |
| 17:40.51 | grandie | instead of always doing it from the cli |
| 17:41.15 | somiaj | zerick: It is a conflict of some sort, i.e. the packages cannot play nicely together, or do you want more details than that? |
| 17:41.42 | bartzy | somiaj: It's a PHP PECL package I created a package from, using php-make-php . It will work, I just don't understand why the file isn't where it's supposed to be ? |
| 17:41.56 | somiaj | zerick: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-breaks |
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| 17:42.27 | somiaj | bartzy: its a conf file, did you delete the old conf file by hand at any point in the past? |
| 17:43.01 | bartzy | somiaj: I guess I did - there was a file named like that and I deleted it before installing the deb. Does that matter? |
| 17:43.10 | somiaj | bartzy: yes, /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 17:43.17 | bartzy | confmiss |
| 17:43.19 | bartzy | sorry. |
| 17:43.38 | somiaj | also as far as I can tell debian has no file named php-make-php -- so you may want to make sure it produces sane packages. (: |
| 17:44.03 | bartzy | somiaj: the name is dh-make-php, sorry. |
| 17:44.27 | somiaj | ahh yea, debian helper usually makes nice packages. My guess is you need to add the confmiss option to dpkg |
| 17:44.27 | bartzy | somiaj: Thanks a lot for the confmiss reference - what if I didn't use aptitude to install, I just used dpkg ? |
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| 17:44.41 | somiaj | the confmiss option it talks about is a dpkg flag (not aptitude) |
| 17:44.51 | bartzy | --force-confmiss ? |
| 17:44.55 | somiaj | the factiod just assumes you are using an apt repo to install, man dpkg for the dpkg flag |
| 17:45.00 | bartzy | That's awesome, thanks a lot! |
| 17:45.06 | bartzy | But why does it do that ? |
| 17:45.12 | bartzy | how does it even know I deleted it |
| 17:45.17 | somiaj | because it is smart |
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| 17:45.30 | somiaj | bartzy: lets say you make a custom config file (or delete an extra one you don't want) |
| 17:45.41 | somiaj | bartzy: do you want an upgrade to automatically put it back? |
| 17:45.50 | zerick | somiaj: thanks man! |
| 17:46.14 | bartzy | somiaj: No, but when I do that - it asks me about it |
| 17:46.19 | bartzy | Ah - but the file is not there... |
| 17:46.20 | bartzy | got it |
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| 17:46.47 | somiaj | bartzy: yea so it keeps track so it won't put back config files you don't want. It assumes if you deleted a config file, there was a reason you don't want it there |
| 17:47.22 | somiaj | bartzy: that is why purge is imporant, if you purge the config files it is different than deleting them |
| 17:47.23 | bartzy | somiaj: So what can I do to avoid using confmiss ? Just not delete files by hand ? |
| 17:47.32 | bartzy | so aptitude purge. cool :) |
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| 17:48.17 | somiaj | bartzy: basically dpkg rembers the config files it put on your system. If you purge the config files it then takes that out of memeory. If you delete it manually it knows it put one there but it is now missing |
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| 17:48.43 | somiaj | and it chooses to default to assume you don't want the config file. |
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| 17:49.03 | bartzy | somiaj: I have a PHP related question, to the packaging - do you know about php packaging specifics perhaps? :) |
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| 17:49.36 | somiaj | bartzy: I'm a hack, I wouldn't listen to me!! and no I don't have any experience packing php, the default debian php packages have always suited my hack needs |
| 17:49.49 | bartzy | I'll try my luck :p |
| 17:50.56 | DebianUsr | Can someone help me as to why as a non root user I can't access any files even for a simple eggdrop? Its my system so I have root access. |
| 17:51.12 | bartzy | The PHP 5.4 debian package changed the way it handles .ini extension files - instead of putting for example pdo.ini in /etc/php5/conf.d/pdo.ini, it now puts it in /etc/php5/mods-available/pdo.ini , and creates a symlink like: /etc/php5/conf.d/10-pdo.ini --> /etc/php5/mods-available/pdo.ini |
| 17:51.39 | bartzy | somiaj: Now I have my own custom extension. Should I do that too, or is it best to just put the actual .ini files in /etc/php5/conf.d/? :) |
| 17:52.10 | bartzy | and I also didn't get the reasoning behind the priority (hence the numbered symlinks) - it worked without the priority in php 5.3.... |
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| 17:53.29 | somiaj | DebianUsr: sounds like you don't have permissions configured correctly. |
| 17:54.23 | somiaj | bartzy: that is a matter of preference. But the mods-available has been common for web stuff. Lots of times the default packages will come with more mods and options than needed by many users |
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| 17:54.53 | somiaj | bartzy: so it is custom to make the mods available but require the admin to put the links for the ones he wants. Since this is a custom package it won't matter (unless you want to deploy it across other computers that may not need that mod) |
| 17:55.20 | bartzy | somiaj: Yeah, now I have a bit of a problem - since packages created from dh-make-php are using /etc/php5/conf.d/ directly. |
| 17:55.25 | bartzy | So I think I'll just leave it be ? |
| 17:55.44 | somiaj | bartzy: it will only be an issue if you install that package on a machine that you don't want that mod enabeled |
| 17:56.13 | somiaj | bartzy: also note the more mods you have enabled the more possible security issues, so it is sane to not enable them by default, but people want them available. hene the policy |
| 17:56.37 | somiaj | but yea my guess is dh-make-php is assuming a simple setup and is really only a starting point for a nice debian/ dir |
| 17:56.57 | somiaj | in most cases the matainer (in this case it is you) should modify the debian/ and fix the generic settings from the script |
| 17:57.02 | bartzy | somiaj: Yeah. Although when you install php5-mysql from wheezy for example - it already creates the symlink by itself.. |
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| 17:57.35 | bartzy | somiaj: I prefer not to bother with that if possible |
| 17:57.37 | somiaj | bartzy: yea that is the post-inst script doing that. So it allows the packge to follow policy, but the decision was make it enabled by default. |
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| 17:57.57 | somiaj | bartzy: yea in the end it most likely won't matter, I was just trying to explain what I see as the reasoning behind said decisions. |
| 17:58.06 | bartzy | somiaj: Are you sure it's the post-inst script doing that, and not just a symlink in the deb contents ? |
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| 17:58.45 | somiaj | bartzy: no, but that is where I would assume it is done. |
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| 18:00.05 | bartzy | somiaj: Yes, you are correct, and there is even a php5enmod and php5dismod in php5-common, just like apache |
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| 18:00.58 | somiaj | bartzy: yea so not chaing your custome package does 2 things. Always forces the mod to be enabled, and doesn't allow you to use those admin tools to turn it on/off |
| 18:01.12 | bartzy | somiaj: Yeah |
| 18:01.19 | somiaj | if this is not an issue, don't worry about it (though you may have to be careful if you use those tools as they may get confused by not having a link there) |
| 18:01.43 | bartzy | somiaj: But I just took a look on the postinst script in the packages that does do that, and it's a big change to do that on custom dh-make-php packages... |
| 18:01.46 | bartzy | UCF and other stuff |
| 18:02.04 | bartzy | somiaj: Yeah sure - I don't use those tools anyway - I just delete or recreate the symlink |
| 18:02.10 | bartzy | easier for me that way |
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| 18:02.21 | somiaj | bartzy: well you have to change two things. 1) make sure it puts the .ini file in the right spot (harder part) and then modify the post-inst script (easy part) |
| 18:03.12 | somiaj | yea I'm with you, I use to do it with /etc/rc?.d links too, but with dependency LSB headers, the tools do much more than just put/remove links in that case. |
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| 18:03.19 | bartzy | somiaj: And what about the priority - why was that added ? |
| 18:03.47 | somiaj | not sure if it is just a orginzation issue, or there are some dependency based loading issues it needs to deal with. |
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| 18:05.34 | brontosaurusrex | what is the policy with server-type software and default config files? Should they be usable by default or are they just templates? |
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| 18:07.24 | somiaj | brontosaurusrex: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ -- if you want policy |
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| 18:07.54 | Iridos | this seems strange. When do packages go into snapshots.debian.org? If I look at http://snapshot.debian.org/package/python-gtk2/ and compare with what judd has |
| 18:07.59 | Iridos | judd, versions python-gtk2 |
| 18:08.00 | judd | Package: python-gtk2 on i386 -- lenny: 2.12.1-6; squeeze: 2.17.0-4; sid: 2.24.0-3+b1; wheezy: 2.24.0-3+b1 |
| 18:08.09 | somiaj | brontosaurusrex: I would say yes they need to be usuable. When someone installs a server-type software I usually expect the server to launch and be running after the install (even if in some default setup) |
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| 18:08.54 | Iridos | there's quite a gap between what snapshots offers and what's in lenny. and also I thought *all* packages go from unstable into snapshots |
| 18:09.47 | brontosaurusrex | somiaj, ok, so for example i have this netatalk thingy running on 2 machines and they both default to share home folder with a hardcoded name "Home DIrectory", when viewed from an osx this two would collapse when mounting, would that be a bug? |
| 18:09.55 | Iridos | oooh, my mistake. the sourcepackage is called pygtk |
| 18:10.05 | Iridos | only the resulting binary is python-gtk2 |
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| 18:10.28 | somiaj | Iridos: http://snapshot.debian.org/binary/python-gtk2/ |
| 18:10.30 | brontosaurusrex | better default would be for example $var-hostname of some sort |
| 18:10.34 | somiaj | Iridos: I think you just did a bad search |
| 18:11.06 | Iridos | somiaj, see above. used the binary-package name for the source-package assuming they must be the same in this case |
| 18:11.17 | somiaj | brontosaurusrex: policy is for offical packages beind distrubited to many different servers, networks, etc. Custom packages you can decided a default which is best for you. |
| 18:11.26 | funyun | hi. i have a dedicated server in france. all of the sudden i am not able to connect to it via ssh. i get a ping from it, but can't connect. this has happened 3 times in the past 5 days. i have to do a web reboot to get it working each time. does anybody know what could be going on? |
| 18:11.28 | somiaj | Iridos: yea packages.debian.org is a good place to look up sorce package names. |
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| 18:11.47 | unborn | somiaj, well my debian server just runs after install all i had to do during installation was click few options and put domian on |
| 18:12.19 | unborn | somiaj, postinstall is virtualmin enter your dns things and you ready to go.. |
| 18:12.36 | somiaj | brontosaurusrex: yea and as unborn mentioned you can use debconf to ask questions when the package is initially configured |
| 18:12.48 | funyun | i also cannot connect via ftp |
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| 18:12.55 | somiaj | brontosaurusrex: but again depends on the scope of what you want this package to be used for. |
| 18:13.08 | no_gravity | Hmmm.. I just connected my nexus 4 to my debian machine for the first time but fdisk -l shows no device. Even though i selected "connect as media device" on the n4. Any ideas? Is there a way to rescan the usb port or something? |
| 18:13.10 | somiaj | funyun: do you run denyhost? |
| 18:13.28 | funyun | somiaj: i've never heard of it. so i doubt it |
| 18:13.39 | funyun | unless it came pre-installed with the server |
| 18:13.46 | somiaj | funyun: or some other tool to try to keep certain ip's from forc hacking your system (i.e. if someone gets so many ssh failed logins it bloks the whole host) |
| 18:13.58 | somiaj | funyun: it is a common security tool, but it sometimes deny's your main user. Can you try to ssh in from a different ip/network? |
| 18:14.10 | unborn | funyun, is that dedicated server? lolz i mean do you run virtuals on it? |
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| 18:14.11 | funyun | somiaj: will it also block ftp? |
| 18:14.33 | somiaj | funyun: yea and a reboot shouldn't fix that. I wonder if the ssh server is crashing. |
| 18:14.43 | somiaj | funyun: which would say you have some major issue. |
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| 18:15.09 | funyun | :'( |
| 18:15.13 | somiaj | funyun: unforntally you need some other tool to debug this, does your provider give you a serial consol you can connect over a webinterface? |
| 18:15.25 | somiaj | funyun: also have you tried ssh -vvv foo@server |
| 18:15.27 | funyun | somiaj: yes |
| 18:15.37 | funyun | somiaj: no |
| 18:15.43 | funyun | what will that do? |
| 18:15.50 | somiaj | funyun: If you have a serial console, get into that and try to figure out why you are being denyed. that ssh -vvv will give you detail logs |
| 18:16.04 | somiaj | funyun: i.e. it will say why you were denyed. |
| 18:16.10 | unborn | somiaj, i think funyun have issues with hw there.. i could not really imagine ssh to crashing heh |
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| 18:16.30 | somiaj | unborn: oh yea, ssh crasing is a major issue. |
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| 18:16.50 | somiaj | unborn: as in either hardware, compermised system, etc. It should not happen. (: |
| 18:16.51 | unborn | somiaj, on deb6? heh |
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| 18:17.19 | funyun | somiaj: if i show you some of the options i have in the web console, could you maybe help me? i honestly have no clue where to look |
| 18:17.22 | somiaj | but until we no more it is just guess work. I have just had denyhost block me more than once |
| 18:17.45 | somiaj | funyun: I don't want to look at your webinterface (nor think you should paste it). But you can paste the output of ssh -vvv foo@server |
| 18:18.46 | unborn | somiaj, is that server running virtuals on it? or its stand alone 'web' server for one web only? |
| 18:18.57 | somiaj | unborn: I have no clue, (: |
| 18:19.09 | funyun | unborn: what are virtuals? |
| 18:19.13 | funyun | vm's? |
| 18:19.16 | unborn | somiaj, ah :) |
| 18:19.30 | somiaj | unborn: I just like to type, so I say random things and hope they help. (: |
| 18:19.31 | unborn | funyun, virtuals mean more domains on one server.. |
| 18:19.50 | somiaj | funyun: paste.debian.net -- waiting for the output of ssh -vvv foo@server. I want to see why you are not able to login (at least according to the ssh client) |
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| 18:20.08 | somiaj | yea may hosting providers will run multiple vps on a single machine. |
| 18:20.24 | funyun | somiaj: http://pastie.org/6355597 |
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| 18:20.49 | Gomex | Hi guys |
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| 18:21.04 | unborn | funyun, if you have no clue how to work with ssh properly and you are more familiar with gui clickie thingy then you can install on that server webmin so you can almost use browser to manipulate server.. |
| 18:21.16 | somiaj | funyun: not enough info, enter in your password and lets see why you are denyed |
| 18:21.25 | somiaj | but the handshake seemed to happen, so it is asking for a password |
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| 18:21.43 | funyun | somiaj: yes, i've restarted it |
| 18:21.50 | funyun | it's working now. but it wasn't 1 hour ago |
| 18:21.56 | somiaj | oh well this gives no help, I need to see logs from when it doesn't work |
| 18:21.59 | somiaj | not from when it does work |
| 18:22.16 | somiaj | once you are on the system you can parse though /var/log/ and try to look for things that say what happened |
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| 18:22.46 | somiaj | I can't think of a basic log to look in, as ssh puts its info in various different logs |
| 18:23.02 | somiaj | you could look in /var/log/auth.log and see if you are getting any denyed logins and why for your user |
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| 18:25.26 | unborn | funyun, is your control panel PLESK? |
| 18:25.43 | funyun | somiaj: i don't see any there. should i try these also? "auth.log.1 auth.log.2.gz auth.log.3.gz auth.log.4.gz" |
| 18:25.57 | funyun | unborn: i think so. how can i check? |
| 18:26.19 | somiaj | funyun: those are back logs, but I would parse the time stamps and start looking at times you know it broke |
| 18:26.19 | unborn | funyun, somewhere on site look for word plesk |
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| 18:26.45 | somiaj | funyun: again I think it is ssh server issues, so auth.log may not be the best to look. ssh -vvv when it breaks will probably give you the easiest info, so just wait, (: |
| 18:27.08 | funyun | somiaj: okay. thanks :) |
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| 18:44.59 | debian_user | hi when i try to install rsync i get this http://pastebin.com/nEC3uHCk. can somebody help me with this? |
| 18:45.12 | roothorick | Just upgraded my server to ECC RAM. It booted just fine, but... how do I verify it's recognized ECC and is actually using the error correcting? |
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| 18:47.58 | diphtherial | hello; if i wanted to run, say, ubuntu in a virtual machine on debian, what would be the recommended software to do that? |
| 18:48.31 | nkuttler | diphtherial: virt-manager or virtualbox |
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| 18:48.58 | diphtherial | nkuttler: ah :) i've used virtualbox before, but on windows. any preference between the two? |
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| 18:49.31 | diphtherial | does it matter at all that the OSs target the same architecture? e.g. both my host and guest OS will be running on amd64, preferably with access to the same hardware |
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| 18:49.52 | diphtherial | (i'm thinking that'd enable me to get away with "container" virtualization, but i'm pretty new to all of this) |
| 18:49.57 | nkuttler | diphtherial: do you want to run GUI stuff? |
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| 18:50.02 | diphtherial | not at all |
| 18:50.11 | nkuttler | then i'd go for libvirt |
| 18:50.23 | nkuttler | and virt-manager |
| 18:50.39 | nkuttler | and yes, having the same architecure helps a lot if your cpu supports virtualization |
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| 18:51.38 | diphtherial | nkuttler: do you happen to know of an easy way to tell if it does? it's just a home pc; i doubt it supports hw virtualization |
| 18:51.52 | debian_user | hi when i try to install rsync i get this http://pastebin.com/nEC3uHCk. can somebody help me with this? |
| 18:51.58 | somiaj | diphtherial: cat /proc/cpuinfo (depending on if it is amd vs intel you look for a different flag) |
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| 18:52.16 | somiaj | diphtherial: almost every modern amd chip supports it, intel can still be hit and miss (some of their cheaper chips disable it) |
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| 18:52.58 | diphtherial | it's an amd chip, and here's the output of /proc/cpuinfo if you care to review it: http://pastebin.com/c8bGngv2 |
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| 18:53.12 | diphtherial | if "vme" is the virtualization flag, it looks like it's there |
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| 18:53.50 | somiaj | diphtherial: but 'egrep "vxm|svm" /proc/cpuinfo' will work. |
| 18:53.50 | xylophonitis | if i reinstalled debian-64 minimal to a VPS FEB 27th, why would auth.log hold enteries for january and december? |
| 18:54.16 | somiaj | sorry that is vmx |
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| 18:54.51 | diphtherial | svm is there :) |
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| 18:55.06 | diphtherial | (on both cores, but i expect that's to be expected...) |
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| 18:55.56 | nkuttler | diphtherial: that should be fine |
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| 18:56.49 | psichas | where could find cool debian backgrounds? |
| 18:56.49 | diphtherial | nice :) will virt-manager/libvirt take advantage of that automatically? |
| 18:56.54 | diphtherial | i should probably just read the documentation, heh |
| 18:57.13 | nkuttler | diphtherial: qemu will, libvirt is just a wrapper |
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| 18:57.39 | diphtherial | ah, so you'd recommend qemu over virt-manager, or are they same thing? |
| 18:57.51 | nkuttler | diphtherial: i use qemu through virt-manager |
| 18:58.00 | diphtherial | i may be talking nonsense; i should read the documentation |
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| 18:58.15 | diphtherial | ah, interesting...alright, here goes, about to install all those packages |
| 18:58.32 | diphtherial | wow, virt-manager certainly has a lot of dependencies @_@ |
| 18:58.35 | nkuttler | i think virt-manager should pull in qemu |
| 18:59.20 | miss0r | indeed. |
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| 18:59.33 | miss0r | virt-manager my absolut vm gui of chioce ;) |
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| 18:59.47 | diphtherial | hopefully there's a very small, stripped down version of ubuntu that i can install in the guest |
| 19:00.03 | diphtherial | (i'm hoping virt-manager will work via ssh, too...) |
| 19:00.08 | nkuttler | diphtherial: just install debian :) |
| 19:00.16 | miss0r | diphtherial: it will |
| 19:00.27 | nkuttler | diphtherial: virt-manager just managed your virtual machines. you will have to configure ssh/networking on them |
| 19:00.33 | diphtherial | heh, i would, but there's a package that a colleague of mine maintains that's only for ubuntu :\ |
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| 19:00.46 | diphtherial | i think i can manage that :) |
| 19:01.01 | diphtherial | i was hoping that virt-manager wasn't only a gui tool; it's apparently not, so that's good |
| 19:01.02 | miss0r | I have a problem: Theres no sound comming from my jack connector on this computer. I have alsa installed, completely working drivers, even cat'ing something to /dev/dsp gives no errors. All mixer values are set to max, and nothing is muted. still theres no sound. What am I missing? |
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| 19:01.20 | debian_user | hi when i try to install rsync i get this http://pastebin.com/nEC3uHCk. can somebody help me with this? |
| 19:01.21 | miss0r | diphtherial: virsh is good for the console usage |
| 19:01.35 | nkuttler | !tell miss0r about alsa checklist |
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| 19:01.50 | diphtherial | is virsh part of virt-manager or a separate thing? |
| 19:02.04 | nkuttler | debian_user: well try what the error suggests |
| 19:02.13 | diphtherial | so glad i'm on wheezy now, for the record :) it's nice being able to install contemporary packages... |
| 19:02.34 | miss0r | diphtherial: no :) |
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| 19:04.35 | debian_user | nothing happens when i run apt-get -f install |
| 19:05.03 | nkuttler | debian_user: that doesn't seem right |
| 19:05.27 | debian_user | nkuttler, ran apt-get -f install rsync |
| 19:05.32 | nkuttler | ,v libacl1 |
| 19:05.33 | judd | Package: libacl1 on i386 -- lenny: 2.2.47-2; squeeze: 2.2.49-4; sid: 2.2.51-8; wheezy: 2.2.51-8 |
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| 19:05.43 | nkuttler | debian_user: no, use the command the error gave you |
| 19:05.58 | nkuttler | "E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)." |
| 19:06.02 | roothorick | sigh. What's the path-of-least-resistance moving a 32bit system to 64bit |
| 19:06.09 | nkuttler | roothorick: reinstall |
| 19:06.40 | roothorick | ew..... |
| 19:06.44 | debian_user | The following packages will be upgraded: libc6 |
| 19:07.04 | roothorick | I figured out why my ECC isn't working at least :/ amd64_edac isn't available in 32bit kernel |
| 19:07.13 | nkuttler | debian_user: it looks like you never performed a dist-upgrade after changing your sources to sid? |
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| 19:07.48 | psichas | How could i verify what files need before installing my package with dpkg? |
| 19:08.01 | debian_user | but nkuttler, cat /etc/issue says Debian GNU/Linux testing/unstable \n \l |
| 19:08.03 | denstark | roothorick: never heard of any system that can 'upgrade' to 64 bit from 32 bit without a reinstall |
| 19:08.04 | nkuttler | psichas: what do you mean? |
| 19:08.04 | psichas | test install? |
| 19:08.12 | debian_user | should i run dist-upgrade anyhow? |
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| 19:08.27 | nkuttler | debian_user: you should have used stable.. |
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| 19:09.05 | debian_user | it is friend system and he for no reason installed testing and it is a production system. |
| 19:09.13 | nkuttler | debian_user: yay |
| 19:09.30 | miss0r | nkuttler: And if the guide you had dpkg send me doesn't do any good? |
| 19:09.41 | nkuttler | debian_user: ok, change the souces list, unstable to wheezy |
| 19:09.55 | nkuttler | miss0r: output of aplay -l ? |
| 19:09.57 | roothorick | denstark: should be theoretically possible though. Boot from 64bit live system, replace all packages... the PM needs to be able to handle it though, and I guess apt-get can't |
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| 19:10.07 | debian_user | nkuttler, can i do a dist-upgrade without breaking the system as it is an important file server? |
| 19:10.10 | nkuttler | debian_user: though your best bet is a reinstall |
| 19:10.44 | nkuttler | debian_user: please pastebin apt-cache policy libc6 |
| 19:10.46 | debian_user | i have a new debian system to which i want to move the contents to stable system. |
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| 19:11.08 | nkuttler | debian_user: so why mess with the old server? just copy the data? |
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| 19:11.10 | debian_user | but rsync is not getting installed in testing so as to move the files. |
| 19:11.11 | miss0r | nkuttler: http://pastebin.com/MqmRfXws |
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| 19:11.18 | nkuttler | debian_user: i see.. |
| 19:11.30 | nkuttler | miss0r: ok, no idea then |
| 19:11.37 | debian_user | copy to USB and then move to the new stable system? |
| 19:11.40 | roothorick | Does apt-get work okay under chroot? |
| 19:12.04 | diphtherial | meh, it can't find lvm2 for some reason :\ the source that has it is 404ing |
| 19:12.04 | nkuttler | roothorick: yes |
| 19:12.10 | roothorick | I have an idea then. |
| 19:12.16 | diphtherial | running apt-get update to see if it resolves it |
| 19:12.29 | nkuttler | diphtherial: well you said it's an important production box.. |
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| 19:12.45 | diphtherial | i did? it's not, it's just my home media server |
| 19:12.53 | nkuttler | ok, go on then |
| 19:13.05 | debian_user | nkuttler, please take a look! http://pastebin.com/cWsGEBYs |
| 19:13.10 | roothorick | this will either magically work, or totally hose my server's OS |
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| 19:13.40 | diphtherial | ah, thankfully updating solved it :) it can find lvm2 now |
| 19:14.00 | diphtherial | (could've sworn i'd done it a few days ago, but i guess things changed) |
| 19:14.11 | nkuttler | debian_user: your libc is pre-lenny.. |
| 19:14.22 | diphtherial | please let me know if my chatter level is exceeding the channel threshold.. |
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| 19:14.29 | debian_user | so how do i resolve this? |
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| 19:14.59 | nkuttler | debian_user: ask your user which release he was running before messing with the sources.list |
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| 19:15.33 | dfx | hello guys |
| 19:15.39 | debian_user | he installed straight away the testing from unknown source cd |
| 19:15.43 | nkuttler | debian_user: your best bet is probably to dist-upgrade to *squeeze* |
| 19:15.56 | nkuttler | debian_user: yeah, that source cd was probably five years old or older.. |
| 19:16.18 | debian_user | but will it break the samba and svn file server? |
| 19:16.41 | nkuttler | debian_user: start by changing the sources list, apt-get update, apt-get --simulate dist-upgrade |
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| 19:17.01 | acu | I have svg files (generated in inkscape) shared in network, but I can not open them unless I transfer them to my local computer. I there something I can change in inkscape in order to be able to open them? |
| 19:17.29 | nkuttler | acu: what's the error? i'd guess the networked device isn't rw |
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| 19:18.25 | nkuttler | debian_user: btw, #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot i386 Binary-1 (20051111)]/ etch contrib main |
| 19:18.40 | nkuttler | debian_user: so he used an (by now) eight year old *testing* cd to install debian.. |
| 19:18.48 | diphtherial | hmm, it'd be neat if there were some way for me to run the virt-manager gui on my laptop, but managing my server remotely |
| 19:18.57 | debian_user | should i uncomment that try apt-get install rsync? |
| 19:19.10 | nkuttler | debian_user: start by changing the sources list, apt-get update, apt-get --simulate dist-upgrade |
| 19:19.12 | miss0r | I can't get sound out of my speakers. Everything checks out, user member of 'audio' grub. dpkg --purge oss-linux told me no oss was installed. everything is turned up & unmuted in alsamixer. This is the output of 'lspci' and 'aplay -l' http://pastebin.com/71n0zZwZ someone please help, I am beginning to loose it here :) |
| 19:19.22 | guma | I have this weird thing going that I can't figure out. I just did setup server with two NICs. For some reason I cant get multicast traffic from p1p1 interface while p4p1 is active (default gateway) even when both active I bind to p1p1 for multicast. Any ideas? |
| 19:19.35 | nkuttler | debian_user: replace unstable and testing with lenny |
| 19:19.51 | guma | Is there any special routing that needs to be added? |
| 19:19.52 | nkuttler | debian_user: actually.. |
| 19:19.55 | debian_user | sorry to stress this point, nkuttler...but will it break the samba and svn file server? |
| 19:19.58 | nkuttler | !tell debian_user about etch sources.list |
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| 19:20.16 | nkuttler | debian_user: how would i know? that's why there's a --simulate switch.. |
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| 19:20.33 | acu | nkuttler, the svg files are share through samba and when I try to poen the files with inkscape I get empty file |
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| 19:20.47 | nkuttler | debian_user: read the msg the bot just sent you, configure your sources.list to use the archive, that should make rsync at least installable |
| 19:21.03 | nkuttler | acu: can you open the file with, say, less ? |
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| 19:21.53 | acu | nkuttler, the file is svg format |
| 19:22.06 | nkuttler | acu: can you open the file with, say, less ? |
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| 19:24.30 | debian_user | nkuttler, got a lot of error message like W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.debian.org etch/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
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| 19:25.54 | diphtherial | nkuttler: if i'm going to be using the command line exclusively, do you think virt-manager is overkill? |
| 19:26.01 | diphtherial | i noticed someone mentioning virsh earlier |
| 19:26.40 | diphtherial | seems that virsh is already installed, too; i wonder if that occurred during the virt-manager installation |
| 19:27.30 | nkuttler | diphtherial: no, that's part of libvirt-bin |
| 19:27.41 | acu | nkuttler, |
| 19:28.12 | acu | nkuttler, do you mean using command line interface |
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| 19:28.28 | diphtherial | ah, right, i meant just that it ended up getting installed as a prereq, not that it was part of virt-manager proper |
| 19:29.50 | debian_user | nkuttler, got a lot of error message like W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.debian.org etch/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 19:30.11 | debian_user | after adding etch sources.list |
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| 19:31.17 | nkuttler | debian_user: pastebin your sources.list |
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| 19:31.25 | nkuttler | acu: yes |
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| 19:32.06 | diphtherial | right, seems that virt-manager's an entirely graphical thing |
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| 19:32.33 | diphtherial | the machine i'm running this on is headless, so it seems unnecessary to have it installed (albeit i'm glad that it installed all the virtualization prereqs, as i wouldn't want to hunt those down myself) |
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| 19:34.17 | acu | nkuttler, I do not know how to open a file shared on network in a terminal. I csan open those files only in nautilus |
| 19:34.42 | nkuttler | acu: ah, so you didn't mount the filesystem? no idea then |
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| 19:35.48 | acu | nkuttler, do you think mounting would solve the problem? |
| 19:36.04 | nkuttler | acu: no idea, i just wanted to check if you can read the file |
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| 19:41.05 | dfx | i cant add new repo's i got this http://pastie.org/6355998 everytime any idea why |
| 19:41.34 | babilen | dfx: Please ask in #ubuntu for Ubuntu support |
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| 19:43.09 | dfx | babilen: noo its just test for now but even if i try to add another repo its the same |
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| 19:44.14 | babilen | dfx: Just edit /etc/apt/sources.list yourself -- but note that PPAs are /not/ meant to be used with Debian and not supported. |
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| 19:45.04 | dfx | babilen: i tho to do so but i said maybe its sumthin broken in my system thanks for the info |
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| 19:51.06 | debian_user | nkuttler, http://pastebin.com/r37GH5mL |
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| 19:57.47 | debian_user | how to display history of 47 -80 commands |
| 19:58.25 | nkuttler | debian_user: remove all the unstable/testing stuff |
| 19:58.34 | debian_user | okie |
| 19:59.56 | debian_user | same error messages! |
| 20:00.13 | debian_user | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.debian.org_debian-security_dists_etch_updates_contrib_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 20:00.25 | nkuttler | debian_user: so you don't have a /var/lib/apt/lists ? |
| 20:01.02 | debian_user | svn:~# ls -altrh /var/lib/apt/lists/ total 82M drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4.0K Dec 16 2005 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 25M Feb 1 14:02 debian.uchicago.edu_debian_dists_testing_main_source_Sources |
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| 20:01.23 | debian_user | many more files under /var/lib/apt/lists |
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| 20:01.45 | somiaj | debian_user: do you have a deb-src line in your sources.list file? Did you update after you added said deb-src line? |
| 20:01.50 | nkuttler | debian_user: try removing the security line from sources.list |
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| 20:02.27 | somiaj | oh wait, yea I read 'source package' not 'source package list', still sounds like a sources.list issue |
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| 20:05.01 | debian_user | no progress, same error messages |
| 20:05.09 | nkuttler | debian_user: paste the exact error |
| 20:05.32 | Neon | Hey, does anyone have an idea how I could log process connections, i.e. make a log entry with information about the process name, the source port and the target address and port each time a process opens a new connection? |
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| 20:05.58 | nkuttler | debian_user: and the command you use |
| 20:06.29 | debian_user | libc6: Depends: tzdata but it is not going to be installed libc6-amd64: Depends: libc6 (= 2.13-38) but 2.3.6-15 is to be installed multiarch-support: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.13-5) but 2.3.6-15 is to be installed rsync: Depends: libacl1 (>= 2.2.51-8) but 2.2.32-1 is to be installed Depends: libc6 (>= 2.8) but 2.3.6-15 is to be installed Depends: libpopt0 (>= 1.14) but 1.7-5 is to be installed Depends: lsb-base (>= 3.2-14) but |
| 20:06.38 | nkuttler | .... |
| 20:06.43 | debian_user | command, i used apt-get install rsync |
| 20:06.45 | nkuttler | debian_user: you have to apt-get update, like i told you |
| 20:07.12 | debian_user | okay, but are we sure it would not break the system? |
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| 20:07.32 | nkuttler | debian_user: no |
| 20:07.49 | debian_user | so it may break the system |
| 20:07.51 | nkuttler | debian_user: actually, that command won't do anything, let's move one step at a time |
| 20:07.59 | debian_user | okay. |
| 20:08.02 | nkuttler | debian_user: your system *is* broken |
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| 20:08.42 | somiaj | Neon: any paticular process you want to log, or do you just want to keep an eye on netstat and log changes? |
| 20:09.19 | debian_user | apt-get update is working now |
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| 20:09.47 | nkuttler | debian_user: after that install rsync, copy the data somewhere else, and get rid of the box or reinstall it.. |
| 20:09.50 | Neon | somiaj: Would probably be better to monitor only a list of processes if possible. |
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| 20:10.33 | debian_user | nkuttler, you said it right, that is the task i am assigned with now. great to have helping hands like you all! :-) |
| 20:10.36 | somiaj | Neon: I can't think of any default tool, but I don't think one would be too difficult to script up. |
| 20:11.03 | somiaj | Neon: but netstat will allow you to list all open connenctions |
| 20:11.42 | somiaj | Neon: I see a --program flag so you can list the connenctions based on PID and program name |
| 20:11.52 | somiaj | Neon: you could then parse out the connenctions you want. Then keep track of them over time |
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| 20:12.36 | Neon | somiaj: Hm okay. So no idea how to do this without polling? |
| 20:13.03 | somiaj | Neon: I have done a quick google search to see if such tools exist, but not finding anything |
| 20:13.26 | Neon | somiaj: Okay, thanks for your help. |
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| 20:15.44 | somiaj | Neon: I also see a --continuous flag for netstat so you can poll every 2 seconds, but yea all I see is a way to make netstat log |
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| 20:15.59 | somiaj | Neon: then you will need to parse the logs, and just look for when new things come into the log. |
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| 20:16.56 | MaddinXx | Hi everyone. Is there a way to see which ./configure parameters where used to build packages available through package manager? |
| 20:17.14 | MaddinXx | e.g. I'm searching for ./configure that was used to build default php5 for squeeze |
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| 20:18.56 | somiaj | MaddinXx: it really depends on the program |
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| 20:19.15 | somiaj | MaddinXx: some programs will report that info in their version string, so command --version will sometimes say which flags are enabled |
| 20:19.17 | ksuhku | that's an interesting question |
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| 20:19.34 | somiaj | MaddinXx: sometimes you can find info in /usr/share/doc/package_name -- the best and only sure way is to look at the source package and the debian/ directory. |
| 20:19.59 | dawud | MaddinXx: what about getting the sources with apt-get source and inspecting the debian/rules file? |
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| 20:20.05 | somiaj | MaddinXx: I belive with php5 you can send it a function, in which that function returns all if its config options (maybe the compile time options are also there) |
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| 20:20.59 | dawud | MaddinXx, somiaj: phpinfo() does that IIRC |
| 20:21.12 | MaddinXx | somiaj: thanks a lot - php doesn't seem to show that information with -V (or another param like e.g. nginx). fetching the source and checking debian/ seems like the best solution |
| 20:21.23 | somiaj | ahh yea, phpinfo(), again not sure if it only gives runtime options, or if it also includes the compile time options. |
| 20:21.41 | somiaj | MaddinXx: yea that will be the only sure way. I just know some programs are nice and report info about themselves. (: |
| 20:21.42 | MaddinXx | dawud: will check that too - thanks :) |
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| 20:22.36 | kannon | hi |
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| 20:24.07 | diphtherial | hmm, running into some issues with virt-install...specifically, it gives me the following error: "ERROR Error in network device parameters: Virtual network 'default' has not been started." |
| 20:24.21 | diphtherial | perhaps this is beyond the scope of this channel :\ |
| 20:24.50 | dawud | diphtherial: inside virsh run net-start default |
| 20:25.25 | somiaj | diphtherial: have you setup a bridge correctly? I recall finding info to do that on the debian wiki |
| 20:25.27 | dawud | diphtherial: you can mark it autostart-able |
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| 20:25.52 | dawud | somiaj: no need for a bridge by default, somiaj |
| 20:26.08 | diphtherial | ah, heh, thank goodness for that :) just ran net-start default in virsh, going to attempt virt-install again |
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| 20:26.55 | somiaj | dawud: ahh, but in that case does it just try to grab the physical device, or does it just set up a virtual device that has no connenction to the host? |
| 20:26.58 | dawud | somiaj: but, in all fairness, diphtherial didn't talk especifics |
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| 20:27.34 | diphtherial | i'm fine with it grabbing the physical device...frankly, whatever behavior is default is probably good enough for me :) |
| 20:27.47 | dawud | somiaj: it sets up a virtual bridge (virbr0) |
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| 20:28.36 | diphtherial | sadly, i'm having some new problems with virt-install; it's telling me the following: http://pastebin.com/RszF8QLf |
| 20:28.48 | dawud | somiaj: and it will plug the virtual interface in it afterwards |
| 20:29.00 | diphtherial | i'd checked before for the hardware virtualization flag, and 'svm' was there |
| 20:29.10 | diphtherial | (it's an amd64 dual-core processor, for what it's worth) |
| 20:29.17 | somiaj | dawud: ahh, yea I just knew a bridge was needed so I never even attempted a virt-install until I had the bridge configured correctly, (: |
| 20:29.28 | somiaj | dawud: I just assumed that was a must do, :D |
| 20:29.36 | diphtherial | if this isn't appropriate for this channel, just let me know and i'll try to ask elsewhere |
| 20:30.05 | somiaj | diphtherial: did you load the actual virt module. When I did it, I loaded the module and got an error, not enabled in BIOS, so though you support it, youhave to turn it on in the bios. |
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| 20:30.40 | diphtherial | somiaj: ah, didn't realize that was necessary...that's going to be a pain since i'm not at home now and the server is headless :\ |
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| 20:31.15 | diphtherial | i feel a bit like i'm wandering blind through this whole process, heh |
| 20:31.38 | diphtherial | do you think giving it a reboot might be sufficient? |
| 20:31.42 | somiaj | diphtherial: well make sure the module is loaded. I think it is kvm_amd or kvm_intel |
| 20:32.08 | somiaj | diphtherial: it could be you just need to load the actual module, if it errors about about not enabled in BIOS, you have to actually modify the bios |
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| 20:32.25 | dawud | diphtherial: find out: lsmod | grep kvm |
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| 20:32.41 | diphtherial | they both appear to be loaded, yes |
| 20:32.46 | diphtherial | er...kvm and kvm_amd, that is |
| 20:33.01 | diphtherial | ah, wait, sorry, i'm guessing the '0' in the third column means it's not loaded |
| 20:33.10 | diphtherial | (this is for kvm_amd; kvm has a '1' in that column) |
| 20:33.18 | somiaj | if the module is loaded, then what I said is not an issue |
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| 20:33.30 | somiaj | no that is the number of modules that depend on that module |
| 20:33.50 | diphtherial | ah, check; never mind, they're both loaded, then |
| 20:33.53 | somiaj | so kvm_amd has nothing depending on it, and kvm has kvm_amd depending on it which is kvm_amd |
| 20:33.59 | diphtherial | right, that's logical |
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| 20:34.23 | diphtherial | hmm, so are we down to it being the bios setting, perhaps? |
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| 20:36.10 | dsprc | is there a way to search for multiple pkg tags? i.e. all pkgs that use ncurses and are for monitoring and such? |
| 20:36.17 | diphtherial | aha, seemed like my permissions for /dev/kvm were wrong! |
| 20:36.27 | diphtherial | chown root:kvm /dev/kvm fixed it |
| 20:36.34 | dawud | diphtherial: maybe it's easier for you to ssh -X ${user_in_libvirt_group}@server virt-manager |
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| 20:36.54 | diphtherial | afaik virt-manager is graphical, no? |
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| 20:37.02 | dawud | diphtherial: hence the ssh -X |
| 20:37.21 | diphtherial | ah...er, but i'm accessing the host OS via the command line as well |
| 20:37.32 | diphtherial | (remotely, via ssh) |
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| 20:38.05 | diphtherial | well, it seems like it's doing something now; it's kind of just sitting there after virt-install displayed that it's connected to the domain |
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| 20:38.22 | diphtherial | informed me of the escape character and left me to my own devices o_o |
| 20:39.43 | diphtherial | virsh list is reporting nothing |
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| 20:40.33 | dawud | diphtherial: you need to connect to qemu:///system first |
| 20:40.43 | debian_user | what would be time estimate for creating a clone of linux machine? |
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| 20:41.09 | dawud | debian_user: depends of networking speed and I/O capabillities, of course |
| 20:41.09 | diphtherial | dawud: ah, that makes sense, heh...any advice on how to do that from the command line? |
| 20:41.24 | dawud | diphtherial: inside virsh, run that very command |
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| 20:41.55 | debian_user | i use scp for file transfer and it is a normal networking link ovcr LAN.. |
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| 20:42.20 | dawud | debian_user: what is normal? 10/100/1000 ? |
| 20:42.22 | nkuttler | debian_user: what's wrong with rsync? |
| 20:42.29 | terr1_ | I have some weird filenames on my linux server.. using ls -al it contains ?, when trying some of my renames scripts and I try to mv it seems it displays the ? as \204 and another as \221 any easy way to replace these with "normal" chars? |
| 20:42.48 | debian_user | oh! it didn't install. threw vicious messages! |
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| 20:43.17 | casey_ | Can anyone provide recommendations on what it would take to run my own web server that streams video? Looking to run about 30 websites and at times stream video to 10,000 + users |
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| 20:43.39 | proby | porn |
| 20:43.43 | dsprc | terr1_: maybe check out 'detox' or one of the related utilities |
| 20:43.47 | nkuttler | casey_: you want a cdn for that |
| 20:43.48 | debian_user | casey_, try adobe media player. |
| 20:43.55 | diphtherial | dawud: the command inside virsh to run is "connect qemu://ubuntu-server/" i assume? (i named my guest machine "ubuntu-server") |
| 20:44.01 | terr1_ | dsprc: ok thanks |
| 20:44.04 | diphtherial | after attempting that, i get the following: error: Cannot read CA certificate '/etc/pki/CA/cacert.pem': No such file or directory |
| 20:44.12 | diphtherial | not really sure why it's looking for a certificate... |
| 20:44.25 | dawud | diphtherial: no, the command is connect qemu:///system |
| 20:44.26 | casey_ | nkuttler, I have a CDN now. I'd like to bring it all in house |
| 20:44.42 | dawud | diphtherial: you are connecting to the hypervisor |
| 20:45.04 | nkuttler | casey_: well.. do the math then. 10k simultaneous streams, bitrate, max lan speed, you'll probably need more than one server.. |
| 20:45.05 | dawud | diphtherial: afterwards, you'll be able to list --all, for example |
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| 20:45.31 | diphtherial | dawud: ok, it claims that it's running now; i'm unsure of how to connect to a terminal on that machine |
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| 20:45.56 | diphtherial | dawud: apologies for all the newbie questions, by the way; i've looked for guides, but they get about as far as virt-install then assume you have a gui |
| 20:45.56 | dsprc | terr1_: there are a whole host of this type of tool so dont know if this one or another would be more appropriate |
| 20:46.05 | casey_ | nkuttler, Right... I know it's a lot. How many servers would I need and what kind of speeds? I waiting on the fiber sales guy to call me back |
| 20:46.18 | dawud | diphtherial: try help console inside virsh |
| 20:46.39 | nkuttler | casey_: no idea, i don't operate at that scale and would cdn it anyway :) |
| 20:46.40 | dawud | diphtherial: check wiki.libvirt.org instead |
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| 20:47.36 | casey_ | nkuttler, I paid $4,400 for my CDN last month. For that kind of money I might as well bring it in house and have full control over it |
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| 20:49.06 | diphtherial | dawud: alright, it seems like i can't connect to the console since it's already open in my initial attempt to virt-install it |
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| 20:49.25 | diphtherial | dawud: i'm a little nervous about --forcing it since i think it might be in the install process still |
| 20:49.32 | grft | is there a tool like unetbootin that supports multiple live systems on one USB key? |
| 20:49.41 | GNU\colossus | what's the nicest embedded platform with some horsepower (I'd like to have 1G ram, for instance, and an SMP system would be nice as well) and <=5W power consumption for Debian these days? |
| 20:50.02 | dawud | GNU\colossus: raspberry? |
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| 20:50.16 | dawud | GNU\colossus: SMP ... sorry |
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| 20:50.31 | GNU\colossus | dawud, I have two of those, and I'd like to know if there's a better option available |
| 20:51.12 | dawud | GNU\colossus: is it about the size of the box? |
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| 20:51.15 | debian_user | is there a debian jeos iso? |
| 20:51.18 | terr1_ | dsprc: detox worked fine :) |
| 20:51.36 | nkuttler | debian_user: jeos? |
| 20:51.43 | GNU\colossus | debian_user, nope, just use the businesscard ISO in expert mode and create a targeted initrd. done. |
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| 20:51.53 | GNU\colossus | nkuttler, stripped down distro spin for virtualized environments |
| 20:52.07 | GNU\colossus | (was available for/from ubuntu a few years back) |
| 20:52.08 | dawud | GNU\colossus: meaning, would a picoITX serve your purpose? |
| 20:52.33 | GNU\colossus | dawud, not really, if it's about the size of an RPi, it's OK. I'd even be OK with an ITX platform |
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| 20:52.41 | GNU\colossus | doesn't have to be pico |
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| 20:52.46 | GNU\colossus | there's enough room at my place |
| 20:53.11 | GNU\colossus | (I don't like the RPi's blob-y IGP solution very much...) |
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| 20:54.03 | dawud | GNU\colossus: there are some Assus mobos with those APUs in place supporting 4GB RAM |
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| 20:54.14 | dawud | GNU\colossus: ITX format |
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| 20:54.37 | GNU\colossus | dawud, do you happen to know how much power such a platform drains at idle? |
| 20:54.44 | GNU\colossus | (with a suitable picoPSU) |
| 20:54.48 | dawud | GNU\colossus: let me check |
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| 20:56.19 | GNU\colossus | ha, nice, there even are models available with ECC UDIMM support |
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| 20:56.35 | diphtherial | dawud: sorry for asking for more help, but i think i'll be in the clear once i can get at the console...after virt-install ran, i think it started the vm and connected to the console, so i can't connect from my other virsh session now |
| 20:56.38 | ChibaPet | Alright, doing it again today. This time it's definitely a Wheezy installer. Doing software RAID for boot, software RAID holding crypto holding LVM for root, swap, home, all on GPT. |
| 20:56.51 | GNU\colossus | like this one: http://skinflint.co.uk/supermicro_x9sbaa-f_retail_pc3-10667s_ecc_ddr3_mbd-x9sbaa-f-o_a884724.html |
| 20:56.53 | diphtherial | dawud: any idea if it's safe to --force the console command, assuming that virt-install hasn't finished the OS installation? |
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| 20:57.35 | BrainBug[BE] | I'm a sys/network admin alot on the road testing hardware and facing user problems. I have a netbook, do you recommend debian on it (I rarely need gui), any low resource dm's? Thanks for the feedback. |
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| 20:59.18 | ChibaPet | BrainBug[BE]: I use Debian on my Eee PC and it's great. |
| 20:59.39 | BrainBug[BE] | chibaPet, what version and dm, if I may ask? |
| 20:59.46 | ChibaPet | BrainBug[BE]: I don't use a desktop environment, though - just my homebrew environment, consisting of Openbox, suckless-tools, etc. |
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| 21:00.08 | dawud | GNU\colossus: I can't seem to find it in the especifications, this is the one I was thinking about http://www.asus.com/Motherboard/C60M1I |
| 21:00.31 | ChibaPet | BrainBug[BE]: Debian Wheezy, because there have been advances in power consumption since Squeeze, Openbox in my own config, and I use some tweaks for battery life, mostly gotten by listening to powertop. |
| 21:00.32 | GNU\colossus | dawud, thanks :) |
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| 21:00.55 | ChibaPet | BrainBug[BE]: It's a really exceedingly pleasant little system. |
| 21:01.04 | dawud | BrainBug[BE]: ratpoison is my choice |
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| 21:01.16 | BrainBug[BE] | ChibaPet, thanks for sharing, how about flux? any experience (as you already convinced me with debian :-)) |
| 21:01.25 | ChibaPet | BrainBug[BE]: Yeah, Ratpoison, StumpWM, i3wm, all of those are decent choices. |
| 21:01.25 | BrainBug[BE] | dawud, +1 |
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| 21:02.01 | ChibaPet | Flux? I'm unfamiliar with it. But any window manager that efficiently lets you swap around screens will let you have each window taking up the whole display, which really makes everything quite readable and usable. |
| 21:02.39 | ChibaPet | In my set-up for instance, I say alt-shift-J (arbitrary) to move down a desktop and alt-shift-K to move up, so I have a full-screen terminal, a full-screen web browser, etc. |
| 21:02.57 | ChibaPet | That and heavy use of tabbing in-app and screen real-estate issues really go away. |
| 21:03.05 | dawud | diphtherial: it shouldn't take too long to finish the installation, so try it, or close the connection and try again. Also, and ssh tunnel to forward virt-manager would be helpful in your case |
| 21:03.29 | ChibaPet | Also, I find that hibernation is big. Bit slower waking it up, but the battery lasts a very long time with no drain between active use sessions. |
| 21:03.36 | diphtherial | dawud: i'm trying to avoid using a gui tool if possible |
| 21:03.53 | diphtherial | dawud: so i suppose the answer is just to wait it out, then? what if the installation is interactive? |
| 21:04.01 | BrainBug[BE] | ChibaPet, Yes I was a bit concerned that Debian would be a bit too "heavy"..., but all sounds great |
| 21:04.13 | dawud | diphtherial: you need a console connection |
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| 21:04.22 | ChibaPet | BrainBug[BE]: Any desktop environment will be a bit heavy, but if you craft your own, Debian is an excellent base. |
| 21:04.38 | diphtherial | dawud: right, which appears to be occupied...if i console 4 --force will that terminate the installer process? |
| 21:04.40 | BrainBug[BE] | ChibaPet, Thanks for the tips, I'll take a look in those DM's and pick one I like. |
| 21:04.43 | diphtherial | (4 is the id of my vm) |
| 21:04.48 | dawud | diphtherial: no |
| 21:04.55 | ChibaPet | BrainBug[BE]: Also, FWIW, I use encrypted root and swap, so you can probably beat my battery life and speed if you don't care about that. |
| 21:05.08 | ChibaPet | BrainBug[BE]: Window Manager, not Desktop Environment. Just saying. |
| 21:05.15 | BrainBug[BE] | ChibaPet, .. right |
| 21:05.32 | diphtherial | dawud: ah, that's good...ok, i appear to be stuck where virt-install was stuck before |
| 21:05.41 | diphtherial | no prompt, just tells me what the escape character is and that's that |
| 21:05.45 | ChibaPet | I like Openbox but I run it with a large number of custom bits, so it's not like the default experience. If you want a good out-of-the-box experience, i3wm is the best tiling manager I've tried so far. |
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| 21:06.17 | diphtherial | dawud: er, if i'm being excessively hand-holdy, please let me know and i'll stop pestering you :3 |
| 21:06.18 | dawud | diphtherial: I'd say you need to preseed your installation if your environment is completely headless |
| 21:06.26 | BrainBug[BE] | ChibaPet, I'll take a look at those (made a small list to check and see) :-) |
| 21:06.28 | dancus | for you is better than awesome wm ? |
| 21:06.38 | ChibaPet | Throw Awesome on it too maybe. |
| 21:06.38 | dawud | diphtherial: and no problem at all |
| 21:06.48 | ChibaPet | Good timing, dancus. |
| 21:07.00 | diphtherial | dawud: you're being incredibly helpful, for what it's worth. and hmm, i may be using "headless" the wrong way |
| 21:07.12 | ChibaPet | Awesome looks good, but I haven't actually tried it. |
| 21:07.18 | diphtherial | what i mean by that is that there's no keyboard/monitor attached to the machine; i ssh into it (in fact, i'm sshed into it now) |
| 21:07.26 | diphtherial | (using an irc client on the host to be here) |
| 21:07.33 | ChibaPet | Alright, taking off for a bit as I reboot and see if GRUB can make sense of this mess I've put together. |
| 21:07.34 | dancus | ^__^ |
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| 21:07.54 | BrainBug[BE] | chibapet, dancus, added one to the list :-) thanks for the feedback. |
| 21:08.06 | diphtherial | i don't mind having a tty device available on the guest if i can access that via the host |
| 21:08.17 | dancus | i3 wm is good but I prefere the floating mode of awesome wm for a day to day use |
| 21:08.19 | diphtherial | i'll also eventually probably be running an ssh server on the guest to facilitate this sort of thing |
| 21:08.50 | ChibaPet | dancus: Yeah, that's why I use Openbox - I mostly use it as a tiling manager but I can just throw windows up quickly if I want. |
| 21:08.57 | ChibaPet | I should try Awesome again. |
| 21:09.01 | dawud | diphtherial: for that to work, you'll definitely need to check in the libvirt wiki the different options for networking a virtual machine |
| 21:09.09 | ChibaPet | Alright, be back soon as I can. |
| 21:09.45 | dawud | diphtherial: if you need to connect to the guest OS, you need more than the default NAT, that is |
| 21:10.10 | dawud | diphtherial: otherwise, it's going to work from inside-out only, so to speak |
| 21:10.12 | diphtherial | dawud: ah, fair enough; maybe i'll worry about getting the guest exposed to the network later |
| 21:10.33 | diphtherial | that's fine for now; i wish i had some way of monitoring this apparently ongoing OS installation on the guest |
| 21:10.43 | diphtherial | connecting to the console isn't showing me anything |
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| 21:11.33 | dawud | diphtherial: that's normal if there's no serial console enabled in the guest, I suppose |
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| 21:12.42 | dawud | diphtherial: I don't know the Ubuntu installer at all, but you might need to find if it is possible to supply some automation to the proccess |
| 21:12.47 | diphtherial | dawud: heh, ok, that makes sense, i think...i didn't configure a serial console, so i suppose i shouldn't be surprised that one doesn't exist |
| 21:13.00 | diphtherial | it's not possible to add one to a running instance, is it? |
| 21:13.12 | diphtherial | i |
| 21:13.28 | diphtherial | er, i'm kind of surprised that creating a virtual machine wouldn't also create a serial console |
| 21:13.33 | dawud | diphtherial: it is possible to edit the xml configuration of a domain, of course |
| 21:13.57 | dawud | diphtherial: check help edit |
| 21:14.26 | dawud | diphtherial: sorry, need to leave. good luck |
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| 21:18.06 | diphtherial | dawud: thanks, much appreciated :) |
| 21:18.13 | diphtherial | dawud: and see you around, hopefully |
| 21:18.30 | diphtherial | i'd looked at edit before, but i was worried that i'd need to restart my vm for the changes to take effect |
| 21:18.54 | diphtherial | (restarting the vm is likely going to leave my guest system in an inconsistent state, assuming it's in the middle of an install) |
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| 21:25.39 | TheMaskedMan | Does anybody have any suggestions why in Squeeze I cannot type my root password in a console connection (through my KVM)? I can enter root and enter just fine, but after that all my characters show up as ^[x ^[y etc. After the 60 second timeout I can enter letters fine again. |
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| 21:32.45 | TheGrey | o/ my soundcard (M audio 2496) is all of a sudden not recognised by aplay -l, or by its mixer (envy24control). Lspci shows it's ID though. Do I need to turn of the onboard soundcard in the BIOS? But at the moment my Nvidia HDMI is the default card! Thanks.. |
| 21:33.02 | diphtherial | ok, so my virtual machine actually does have a ttyconsole configured |
| 21:33.15 | diphtherial | ttyconsole <my-machine-id> outputs /dev/pts/4 at least |
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| 21:33.39 | diphtherial | not really sure what to do with that information...thing's still running, but no visible prompt when i console 4 --force into it |
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| 21:34.10 | greenWork | I am now sure that my raid build is not doing anything. |
| 21:34.18 | greenWork | mdadm --stop just says its busy |
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| 21:34.53 | greenWork | its been 9% rebuilt since monday |
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| 21:35.44 | diphtherial | ok, for an easier question, does anyone happen to know how to mount an .img so i can edit my guest OS's filesystem without consoling into it? |
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| 21:37.00 | greenWork | umount says /dev/md0 is not mounted |
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| 21:37.07 | greenWork | I don't know how to stop the build |
| 21:37.11 | diphtherial | i'm still kind of afraid of hosing my guest OS installation :\ |
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| 21:39.01 | dawud | diphtherial: you're looking for libguestfs-tools |
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| 21:39.45 | dawud | diphtherial: with regards to your OS installation, it might be waiting for user input, if that's the default behaviour of the installer |
| 21:40.31 | dawud | greenWork: anything useful in cat /proc/mdstatus ? |
| 21:40.32 | diphtherial | that's likely the case :\ is it simply impossible to connect to whatever interface is waiting for input? |
| 21:41.04 | diphtherial | i'm installing libguestfs-tools as you recommended |
| 21:41.07 | diphtherial | also, i thought you were leaving? :) |
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| 21:41.34 | greenWork | http://pastebin.com/DE74RP8c |
| 21:41.57 | greenWork | 25k/second? |
| 21:42.02 | greenWork | its an 8 TB raid |
| 21:42.07 | dawud | diphtherial: I guess no, if console within virsh doesn't work. check if it's an option you can supply in the qemu/kvm command line when installing or the kernel cmdline |
| 21:42.24 | greenWork | I got to 9% in about 5 hours. |
| 21:42.37 | greenWork | then nothing for the next 96 |
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| 21:42.52 | diphtherial | dawud: i'm guessing that i should nuke my existing guest OS image and start from scratch? |
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| 21:43.17 | dawud | diphtherial: that wouldn't hurt |
| 21:43.18 | greenWork | mdadm --fail and mdadm --remove don't do anything |
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| 21:49.14 | vaillor | hi guys |
| 21:49.23 | vaillor | how to ceck list of package installed? |
| 21:49.27 | IRaDiViNA | Hi |
| 21:49.39 | dawud | greenWork: what is there in /proc/sys/dev/raid/speed_limit_{min,max} ? |
| 21:49.49 | dawud | vaillor: dpkg -l |
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| 21:50.37 | dawud | vaillor: dpkg -l | less maybe |
| 21:51.08 | mtn | vaillor: synaptic works well, too |
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| 21:51.50 | psichas | debian is beat :P |
| 21:51.59 | jobil | Which wi-fi usb adapter should I buy? For use with live cds... |
| 21:52.08 | vaillor | dawud, mtn: http://sprunge.us/JTEL |
| 21:52.09 | greenWork | max 200000 min 1000 |
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| 21:52.14 | greenWork | its a fresh install |
| 21:52.26 | vaillor | i need to remove virtualbox-ose-guest* packages |
| 21:52.30 | dawud | greenWork: yes, defaults |
| 21:52.30 | vaillor | how to remove them? |
| 21:52.48 | dawud | vaillor: aptitude purge those packages |
| 21:52.56 | mtn | vaillor: easy to remove with synaptic |
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| 21:53.02 | vaillor | i use apt-get |
| 21:53.04 | mtn | vaillor: right click |
| 21:53.11 | vaillor | apt-get remove virtualbox-ose-guest* |
| 21:53.17 | vaillor | should be good? |
| 21:53.36 | dawud | vaillor: man apt for the differeces between remove and purge |
| 21:53.42 | dawud | differences* |
| 21:53.54 | vaillor | i don't need to purge |
| 21:53.58 | vaillor | i need to remove them |
| 21:54.00 | greenWork | I do have a slow cpu. Its an AMD Sempron |
| 21:54.40 | dawud | greenWork: are there high CPU rates? |
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| 21:56.23 | greenWork | I am not sure. I can't see any process using the cpu but load average is 2.00 |
| 21:56.31 | greenWork | http://pastebin.com/nXRnn3AL |
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| 21:57.09 | greenWork | wow, it also says its been up only 2 days. Thats not the case. |
| 21:57.22 | greenWork | maybe it restarted? would that cause the raid to stop building? |
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| 22:03.06 | greenWork | could I resume the rebuild with mdadm --assemble ? |
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| 22:06.08 | jobil | Are there any natively supported usb wi-fi adapters that don't require firmware or drivers not already included in the linux kernel? |
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| 22:08.44 | dsprc | jobil: check out the wiki at http://linuxwireless.org/ |
| 22:08.46 | well_laid_lawn | jobil: afaik atheros chips have good support - might have a look at apt-cache search firmware if you already have a dongle |
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| 22:10.52 | dsprc | jobil: thinkpenguin.com has some for sell specifically because of compatibility |
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| 22:12.13 | jobil | dsprc: AR9170 https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-usb-req-antennas requires additional firmware? http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/carl9170 |
| 22:13.04 | jobil | Am I missing something, or do nearly all wi-fi dongles require separate firmware? |
| 22:13.45 | bw_ | jobil: sadly yes |
| 22:14.15 | bw_ | jobil: try the "firmware-linux-nonfree" package |
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| 22:19.13 | gusnan | Libreoffice-writer (in wheezy) automatically capitalizes the first character in a sentence more often than I want. - Where do I turn this completely off? |
| 22:19.54 | acu | Is there a setting in inkscape that does not permit to open svg file unless it is in local computer? |
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| 22:20.19 | psichas | debian love my old pc :D |
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| 22:22.26 | TheMaskedMan | Does anybody have any suggestions why in Squeeze I cannot type my root password in a console connection (through my KVM)? I can enter root and enter just fine, but after that all my characters show up as ^[x ^[y etc. After the 60 second timeout I can enter letters fine again. |
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| 22:24.46 | jobil | bw_: I only use Debian in live sessions. Does that make things more complex? |
| 22:25.05 | unborn | psichas, so i do.. TheMaskedMan try to see logs if there is any problem with ssh server |
| 22:25.34 | TheMaskedMan | unborn: Not using SSH, this is on the console |
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| 22:26.12 | unborn | TheMaskedMan, ah sorry read it wrongly.. my apology sir |
| 22:26.34 | unborn | anyway logs will tells you a lot |
| 22:26.45 | TheMaskedMan | unborn: http://www.themaskedman.net/images/debiankeyboardissue.png is an example |
| 22:27.27 | unborn | TheMaskedMan, you need to have look on logs |
| 22:28.14 | TheMaskedMan | unborn: Looking now |
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| 22:29.14 | unborn | TheMaskedMan, is this putty - windows? |
| 22:29.26 | RoyOnWheels | can anyone help get network access? asus eepc 701. debian squeeze http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/Wifi |
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| 22:29.49 | TheMaskedMan | unborn: IP KVM built into the server |
| 22:30.47 | unborn | bah shame.. i aint use windows almost 10 years.. :( |
| 22:30.56 | RoyOnWheels | no wired ip |
| 22:32.19 | aguitel | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.28 | TheMaskedMan | I'm not seeing any errors that would indicate an input issue |
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| 22:32.47 | unborn | TheMaskedMan, well after you read the logs I guess you turn log of time off.. so you have no issues.. |
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| 22:33.01 | TheMaskedMan | This KVM works fine, I had to troubleshoot a grub issue earlier |
| 22:33.04 | unborn | TheMaskedMan, is this server as web server? |
| 22:33.17 | TheMaskedMan | unborn: No |
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| 22:34.25 | unborn | TheMaskedMan, heh then i am afraid that my answer will be very limited.. i saw this on 'web'servers .i mean similar problem to yours but its different coffee heh |
| 22:34.27 | diphtherial | argh, i have a hard time believing that there's no way to install an OS on a virtual machine from the command line |
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| 22:34.46 | RoyOnWheels | can anyone help get network access? asus eepc 701. debian squeeze http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/Wifi |
| 22:35.00 | diphtherial | (attempting to install ubuntu mini as a guest OS using virt-install with debian as my host OS, can't get the console to display anything during the apparently interactive install process) |
| 22:35.15 | diphtherial | er, ubuntu from the mini ISO, that is; it's supposed to have a text-based installer |
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| 22:35.56 | mtn | RoyOnWheels: you will need to explain what you have tried and what happened or no one will know what to say. |
| 22:35.57 | TheMaskedMan | unborn: It is a rather odd issue, thansk for the help |
| 22:36.57 | unborn | TheMaskedMan, on 'web' servers it was issue due to incorrect utf and plesk cp panel.. i guess you have no issues with this.. i am sorry.. maybe someone more advanced will help you. |
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| 22:37.14 | RoyOnWheels | mtn haven't tried much. i'm in as my user. i did netinst/ version |
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| 22:38.30 | mtn | RoyOnWheels: you really have to explain your problem. Maybe try following the guide to begin with. |
| 22:39.38 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, can you see what wifi u are on if you type in terminal lspci |
| 22:39.45 | unborn | ? |
| 22:39.49 | gusnan | Answering myself: In the menu -> Format -> Autocorrect -> While typing ... |
| 22:40.04 | RoyOnWheels | mtn sorry. so i did minimal install, it claims wifi should work |
| 22:40.13 | aguitel | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:40.33 | mtn | RoyOnWheels: depends on your hardware, lots of wireless isn't without installing firmware. |
| 22:40.36 | RoyOnWheels | unborn type lspci? |
| 22:40.39 | unborn | perhaps you will read the screen while boot and you can see what you are missing :) |
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| 22:40.48 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, yap |
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| 22:41.52 | doublehp | i have installed Debian in a partition using debootstrap; I am chrooted into it, but, I don't have any basic command; I don't have ifconfig, apt-get, aptitude. Only dpkg. How do I install basic tools ? |
| 22:42.00 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, you lookin for line looking like this 06:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01) |
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| 22:42.24 | unborn | i mean there will be no realtek but your wifi hardware |
| 22:43.27 | RoyOnWheels | atheros communications l2 fast ethernet unborn |
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| 22:43.56 | RoyOnWheels | before is all pci bridge |
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| 22:44.15 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, that is an 'cable' connection ethernet = cable |
| 22:44.37 | RoyOnWheels | it overflowed screen |
| 22:44.43 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, scroll down there will be something mention about wifi |
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| 22:46.46 | RoyOnWheels | unborn doesn't scroll no gui |
| 22:46.58 | RoyOnWheels | all text based |
| 22:47.28 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, heh okay i know its all txt based (that is a beauty) :) do you see anywhere on terminal word wifi? |
| 22:47.29 | RoyOnWheels | i did this install http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 22:47.55 | RoyOnWheels | no no wifi, i could do wired |
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| 22:49.31 | psichas | http://tinyurl.com/bwu8ztr What you think guys ? |
| 22:49.58 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, okay... i think you may reboot and have look in bios if there is any option for wifi to be turned on.. what this command tells you is your hardware plugged in.. means if you have correct output we will be able to find out driver or firmware for it.. while you rebooting to the system please do watch screen.. it should tells you what is missing.. |
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| 22:50.52 | RoyOnWheels | ok unborn before had xp with wifi |
| 22:50.58 | doublehp | psichas: i think that clicking your link won't fix my box |
| 22:51.08 | unborn | psichas, 85mibs? wth :D |
| 22:51.22 | psichas | :) |
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| 22:51.36 | psichas | 85MB after startup :) |
| 22:51.55 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, understand.. some wifi chips do fail to start up if you turn them off on windows.. or if you have well old bios |
| 22:52.12 | RoyOnWheels | k |
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| 22:52.15 | doublehp | psichas: pppd means ... PSTN ... poor you :) |
| 22:52.24 | unborn | psichas, that is just awesome heh my deb have output hold on |
| 22:52.37 | aguitel | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.54 | unborn | Real memory 2.96 GB total, 503.84 MB used |
| 22:53.04 | wsky | i used to cap on 65mb with dwm :| |
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| 22:53.12 | unborn | but runs couple gibs of dbs and few webs :) |
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| 22:54.24 | boudiccas | this works from the commandline .. /home/boztu/truecrypt --fs-options=users,uid=$(id -u),gid=$(id -g),fmask=0113,dmask=0002 --mount /home/boztu/truecrypt /home/boztu/Documents/basket ... yet when i put it in .bash_aliases it fails at the first 'truecrypt'. how can i get it to work please? |
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| 22:56.33 | denstark | boudiccas: is that first truecrypt supposed to be the path to the binary? |
| 22:56.43 | boudiccas | denstark: yes |
| 22:57.20 | denstark | wouldn't it be /usr/bin/truecrypt or some such? |
| 22:57.45 | boudiccas | no, because its an old version thati've got working in my /home directory |
| 22:57.48 | wsky | psichas: http://i.imgur.com/6E77qrs.jpg |
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| 22:58.21 | denstark | i'm a little confused... so you're trying to mount the truecrypt file itself? |
| 22:58.28 | denstark | the first 'truecrypt' and the second are the same |
| 22:58.30 | denstark | which is confusing |
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| 22:59.13 | boudiccas | denstark: no, i call the command andf it opens a window to enter the password for opening the encrypted file container |
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| 22:59.39 | denstark | sorry, i guess i'm not familiar enough with truecrypt to help =/ |
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| 22:59.59 | boudiccas | it works from the commandline but doesnt work when entered into a terminal |
| 23:00.22 | psichas | wsky, awsome, less then 50mb isn't posible :D |
| 23:00.30 | wsky | it is |
| 23:00.41 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, did you rebooted? :) |
| 23:00.58 | boudiccas | denstark: its okay, truecrypt is working okay, its somethign to do with the command itself |
| 23:01.01 | RoyOnWheels | trying to find out how |
| 23:01.07 | puzle | psichas: I think I get about ~55 mb usage (with XFCE) on boot. |
| 23:01.31 | puzle | So I'm pretty sure it's possible to use less with other, more lightweight DEs. |
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| 23:02.59 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, LOLZ well i am deb person open terminal and type sudo reboot.. enter the password and you will be rebooted (restart) you will loose connection you know that enter to the bios have look as i told you and then finish boot up and come back and talk to us |
| 23:03.04 | psichas | puzle, i'll believe then i'll see :) |
| 23:05.00 | RoyOnWheels | unborn do i want to return as admin or my user |
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| 23:05.44 | EmleyMoor | RoyOnWheels: As yourself. Never irc as root. |
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| 23:06.15 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, well you boot up in to deb (debian) as user.. normally with your pass and then when you need you will enter sudo su and just type command you want start (sudo su is root - admin) |
| 23:06.50 | unborn | i hope so he not run irc ..irssi or anything as root.. that would be just stupid |
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| 23:07.21 | RoyOnWheels | unborn sudo reboot command not found |
| 23:07.29 | unborn | heh |
| 23:07.35 | unborn | type reboot and enter |
| 23:08.00 | unborn | see if you will disconnect here .. i hope so you aint run this irc as sudo |
| 23:08.37 | RoyOnWheels | i'm on 2nd win 7 |
| 23:08.42 | RoyOnWheels | irc |
| 23:08.52 | unborn | o0???? |
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| 23:09.15 | RoyOnWheels | got eepc next to win7 pc |
| 23:09.21 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, are you running the thing in virtualbox? |
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| 23:09.38 | RoyOnWheels | no 2 different physical machine |
| 23:09.59 | RoyOnWheels | toshiba and asus eepc |
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| 23:10.17 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, so enter to the physical debian mashine and do reboot.. i mean restart |
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| 23:11.15 | RoyOnWheels | can i press power button |
| 23:11.28 | RoyOnWheels | im physically at it |
| 23:11.42 | RoyOnWheels | can't network |
| 23:11.49 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, yes.. when you see msg on screen read it and choose reboot (RESTART) |
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| 23:12.58 | puzle | psichas: close enough to believe it? http://i.imgur.com/Wc6reGJ.png |
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| 23:14.33 | psichas | puzle, great job :) |
| 23:15.12 | puzle | psichas: actually, I didn't do anything, it's pretty much a default XFCE but without recommends. |
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| 23:15.38 | psichas | ok |
| 23:15.48 | unborn | offtopic a bit.. anyone who wants fun a bit please do not spam me.. otherwise i will do it to you as i did to this french lad http://1arizonahomes.com/wp-content/uploads/fgallery/wps.php |
| 23:15.51 | unborn | ;) |
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| 23:16.55 | RoyOnWheels | unborn a blue screen flashed didn't see specific network info |
| 23:17.34 | unborn | okay RoyOnWheels do the terminal again lspci |
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| 23:17.56 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, can you see anything related to wifi? |
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| 23:19.27 | RoyOnWheels | no, unborn can we get wired network working |
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| 23:20.02 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, yap as it reads your wider card just plug in cable |
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| 23:21.13 | RoyOnWheels | auto eth0 sais auto not found |
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| 23:21.19 | RoyOnWheels | says |
| 23:21.52 | veelium | I've a problem with alsa. My speakers are too quiet. With headphones or external speakers it works fine though. |
| 23:21.57 | veelium | any ideas? |
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| 23:22.39 | RoyOnWheels | just need an ip, then i can get somewhere unborn, maybe need to update bois? |
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| 23:24.51 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, you possibly click wrong options on install options.. :) ip should be given to your pc by dhcp in your router.. i guess just do reinstall.. with all automatic options said yes.. you do not use debian for long dont you? |
| 23:25.10 | mtn | RoyOnWheels: why don't you start the install over with the lan plugged in? |
| 23:25.41 | RoyOnWheels | unborn -bash: auto: command not found |
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| 23:26.14 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, just perform new install completely heh |
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| 23:35.32 | RoyOnWheels | ok, fingers crossed |
| 23:35.44 | unborn | :) |
| 23:36.16 | RoyOnWheels | last setup it asked for ssid, didn't take so i skipped setup |
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| 23:38.45 | RoyOnWheels | unborn domain name? |
| 23:39.04 | unborn | type roy-debian |
| 23:39.21 | RoyOnWheels | k |
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| 23:39.34 | RoyOnWheels | left blank b4 |
| 23:39.47 | mtn | RoyOnWheels: you don't need one |
| 23:40.02 | unborn | ya :) |
| 23:40.15 | RoyOnWheels | blankbok? |
| 23:40.30 | unborn | o0 |
| 23:40.40 | LinuxGuy2009 | Hello I am about to download the testing DVD and am about to install 64bit for the first time. I have a laptop with Intel i5 and a desktop with AMD Phenom quad core. Wasnt sure if I need IA64 for the intel and separate AMD64 for the AMD? Or if one of them works on both? (Looks like maybe AMD64 works on both?) |
| 23:41.23 | wsky | LinuxGuy2009: you use AMD63 on both |
| 23:41.29 | wsky | 64* |
| 23:41.56 | LinuxGuy2009 | Cool thats what I figured. Thanks guys. |
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| 23:42.05 | unborn | i5 with phenomenon lolz :) |
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| 23:43.07 | unborn | amd64bit is for you.. if that person will keep disconnecting then i will not type to anyone heh |
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| 23:45.08 | RoyOnWheels | i see a mac and ip on router unborn |
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| 23:45.32 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, so you should be able to go on internet :) |
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| 23:45.46 | RoyOnWheels | hoping so |
| 23:46.16 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, open the browser and you will see |
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| 23:46.37 | RoyOnWheels | assuming apt-get update 1st |
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| 23:47.10 | RoyOnWheels | unborn its 140mb usb install |
| 23:47.37 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, well do it..please remember anything you dont understand keep pressing yes |
| 23:48.46 | RoyOnWheels | destroy terran life sphere press <enter> to continue... hmm? |
| 23:49.19 | RoyOnWheels | decisions |
| 23:49.52 | unborn | :) |
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| 23:50.14 | unborn | it was decided before you even think you could decide.. |
| 23:50.56 | unborn | remember big things have small beginnings RoyOnWheels |
| 23:52.47 | wsky | what are you talkng about? |
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| 23:53.12 | RoyOnWheels | unborn its retrieving further files off internet :) |
| 23:53.28 | unborn | wsky, deb install ..clean without understanding basics.. |
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| 23:53.41 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, i told you it will :) |
| 23:54.06 | wsky | debootstrap? |
| 23:54.10 | wsky | or netinstall? |
| 23:54.32 | unborn | wsky, netinstall but user is very basic.. got me? |
| 23:55.01 | wsky | i supose |
| 23:55.58 | RoyOnWheels | netinstall |
| 23:56.12 | unborn | wsky, some questions could be skipped you know... i just try to help it to get it roll on and use it.. then love it ;) |
| 23:56.36 | wsky | i wont install debian using the installer ever again i supose |
| 23:57.05 | timmmaaaayyy | i have what is probably a stupid question......is this stable or testing? http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst |
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| 23:57.30 | wsky | timmmaaaayyy: stable |
| 23:57.37 | wsky | debian 6 |
| 23:57.38 | themill | timmmaaaayyy: look at the URLs for the media -- 6.0.7 |
| 23:58.32 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, how you processed? still in install? |
| 23:58.54 | RoyOnWheels | software colection |
| 23:59.07 | RoyOnWheels | options |
