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| 00:00.08 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, well i guess you will not use ssh and web stuff..just install the desktop and standard things |
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| 00:00.14 | unborn | click next |
| 00:00.28 | unborn | and process |
| 00:01.28 | timmmaaaayyy | thanks wsky and themill |
| 00:01.42 | RoyOnWheels | might of not picked right thing. interface was confusing unborn |
| 00:02.36 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, okay.. we will see after install.. bah man if this will go wrong I will help you install deb remotely :) |
| 00:02.44 | unborn | thumbs up |
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| 00:03.18 | RoyOnWheels | ok |
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| 00:05.08 | RoyOnWheels | just need network and i can probably figure out rest unborn. it had xp but auto update ate all 4gb. this is my 3d printer remote host system |
| 00:07.03 | RoyOnWheels | breeding 3d printers here |
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| 00:08.41 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, okay.. printers are irrelevant for me as i have no idea what printers you use..possibly unplug that rubbish printers and process the install heh |
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| 00:10.40 | neon__ | I have a laptop with broken screen. If I would install linux in a VM on the laptop disk, would I get output over the HDMI? (normally this laptop don't output on HDMI on boot) |
| 00:11.00 | RoyOnWheels | unborn to be admin for apt-get? sudo? |
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| 00:11.58 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, to be admin type your password to your account..if its asking for root password leave that empty and process the install |
| 00:12.24 | unborn | you dont need to do apt-get thing till finish |
| 00:12.24 | pfred1 | did anyone feel a disturbance in the Force when I just erased a copy of Vista to install Debian? |
| 00:12.50 | unborn | pfred1, i felt pleasure :D |
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| 00:12.59 | RoyOnWheels | unborn i'm on install finished it rebooted |
| 00:13.14 | RoyOnWheels | unborn .loggen as roy |
| 00:13.21 | pfred1 | I'm halfway through installing the base system |
| 00:13.29 | unborn | reboot and keep cable in :) log in with your username and pass RoyOnWheels |
| 00:13.57 | RoyOnWheels | i have unborn |
| 00:14.04 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, are you logged in? |
| 00:14.08 | unborn | ah well done |
| 00:14.18 | RoyOnWheels | yes\\ |
| 00:14.38 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, can you open web browser for me and tell me if you can see debian website? |
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| 00:15.47 | RoyOnWheels | no idea how no gui |
| 00:16.06 | RoyOnWheels | want apt-get update |
| 00:16.06 | RoyOnWheels | apt-get install x-window-system kde kdm |
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| 00:16.08 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, go to google.. does it loads? |
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| 00:16.29 | pfred1 | unborn they don't have X Window |
| 00:16.43 | pfred1 | they can ping it though |
| 00:16.44 | unborn | pfred1, heh how come? |
| 00:16.57 | unborn | ah i see |
| 00:17.00 | unborn | :) |
| 00:17.04 | RoyOnWheels | yeah |
| 00:17.20 | pfred1 | and use aptitude it is better than apt-get usually |
| 00:17.35 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, right now you are not root (admin) so you have to type in sudo or su |
| 00:17.49 | pfred1 | sudo -s for a session |
| 00:17.54 | RoyOnWheels | just sudo? |
| 00:17.57 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, sudo or su means super user do or super user.. |
| 00:17.58 | RoyOnWheels | k |
| 00:18.04 | RoyOnWheels | yeah |
| 00:18.11 | pfred1 | if you do sudo -s you stay root until you exit |
| 00:18.15 | RoyOnWheels | can i ssh in? |
| 00:18.18 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, your admin.. follow the screen of the beauty (terminal) |
| 00:18.19 | zykotick9 | isn't su switch user? |
| 00:18.26 | RoyOnWheels | off my win7 |
| 00:18.37 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, dont do ssh |
| 00:18.39 | wsky | zykotick9: i also read it like that |
| 00:18.50 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, just work on linux machine |
| 00:18.54 | unborn | ssh have time |
| 00:19.24 | RoyOnWheels | aptitude update pfred1? |
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| 00:19.34 | pfred1 | RoyOnWheels it is the first hting I do |
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| 00:20.48 | pfred1 | I am installing to stress test this box I just picked it up at a thrift store yesterday I'm trying to make it be all it can be |
| 00:20.55 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, one thing.. if you keep using apt-get keep using this command just dont do apt-get something and then sudo aptitude.. commands sounds similar but reading the dbs could be complicated 4 you |
| 00:21.12 | pfred1 | yeah stick with aptitude |
| 00:21.43 | pfred1 | once I had a db problem and had to run apt-get to repair it but other than that aptitude is the preferred choice today |
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| 00:22.44 | RoyOnWheels | pfred1 do "aptitude install x-window-system kde kdm"? |
| 00:23.01 | pfred1 | just install KDE it'll suck X in on deps |
| 00:23.09 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, think sudo apt-get is same command like sudo aptitude but have different impact on system .. if you lazy just type sude apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade if you not then type same expect apt-get.. just replace with aptitude :) |
| 00:23.33 | unborn | re sudo |
| 00:23.42 | pfred1 | RoyOnWheels aptitude knows you want to use the program so it will install everything you need to use it |
| 00:23.46 | RoyOnWheels | pfred1 just kde |
| 00:23.51 | RoyOnWheels | how |
| 00:23.52 | pfred1 | yes |
| 00:24.04 | pfred1 | aptitude search kde |
| 00:24.11 | pfred1 | then get the package name and have at it |
| 00:24.40 | pfred1 | I run trinity so my search will be a bit different |
| 00:24.58 | RoyOnWheels | pfred1 get package how |
| 00:25.42 | pfred1 | RoyOnWheels aptitude install kde-core should do it |
| 00:26.41 | pfred1 | RoyOnWheels I am not too wild about KDE 4 so I run trinity http://www.trinitydesktop.org/ |
| 00:29.26 | RoyOnWheels | ok, basically i want gui, probably tight vnc then i'm done |
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| 00:35.26 | unborn | pfred1, i told you its basic user :) |
| 00:35.41 | pfred1 | unborn what does that mean? |
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| 00:36.23 | unborn | pfred1, did you ever work with normal users? means windows and touch of linux was ubuntu? |
| 00:37.08 | pfred1 | unborn in my experience there is no such thing as normal everyone deviates from the baseline so normal is an unachievable ideal |
| 00:37.16 | unborn | pfred1, that means you have to speak his language.. hope so you got me.. |
| 00:37.45 | pfred1 | hey as far as I'm concerned I'm normal nevermind i have 5 boxes that run Debian |
| 00:38.18 | unborn | pfred1, ive described your base line in my point of view.. of course the are all normal just language we use they are not use to it.. |
| 00:38.52 | RoyOnWheels | oh unborn my printer https://www.dropbox.com/sh/m7gpmy1eku13rc2/f9a80mNe6r |
| 00:38.55 | unborn | pfred1, i think you get me wrong.. anyway user have net he needs to install gui |
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| 00:39.35 | pfred1 | unborn bah you can run lynx to surf the net |
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| 00:41.07 | unborn | pfred1, i can run linux to do things i cannot even imagine.. that is my answer :) dont be offensive.. we try to help one person.. how ever here is evening and i going to the shop to buy some beers :) |
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| 00:43.57 | RoyOnWheels | yeah running a pthyon based ui program |
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| 00:44.44 | leontopod | what is the command to get eggdrop? |
| 00:45.54 | Mr_Queue | firefox google.com |
| 00:46.15 | leontopod | =( |
| 00:46.21 | Mr_Queue | not kidding either. |
| 00:46.24 | LtL | leontopod: http://www.eggheads.org/ get it, unpack, install |
| 00:47.11 | Mr_Queue | http://bit.ly/XG8Oum |
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| 00:55.28 | pfred1 | yay I made it to the zippy desktop! |
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| 00:57.43 | unborn | is this some kind of joke here? 'yeah running a pthyon based ui program' |
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| 00:58.23 | unborn | if yes just tell me i will gladly watch and read and LEARN ... |
| 00:59.52 | RoyOnWheels | unborn http://reprap.org/wiki/Printrun |
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| 01:00.16 | RoyOnWheels | wxpython |
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| 01:00.57 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, ah so its not reaction on how i was trying to help you ? :) |
| 01:01.09 | RoyOnWheels | no |
| 01:01.29 | RoyOnWheels | just facts |
| 01:01.46 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, so you have now net and gui |
| 01:02.14 | unborn | if yes you can install ssh thing and you could process your work with ssh from windows |
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| 01:05.43 | RoyOnWheels | ok, install ssh with aptitude ssh? |
| 01:06.09 | pfred1 | that is the one nice thing about net installs I guess when you install you're all up to date |
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| 01:15.32 | gnarface | galculator stopped paying attention to my gtk2 theme... wtf? |
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| 01:17.16 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, sudo apt-get install ssh |
| 01:17.38 | RoyOnWheels | unborn ok, i'm in via ssh |
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| 01:17.48 | unborn | then on you windows you can run putty ssh yourusername@ipoftheserver |
| 01:18.15 | unborn | :) RoyOnWheels nice man so you dont need me.. your net work ya? |
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| 01:20.23 | puzle | gnarface: perhaps gcalculator it's trying to use gtk3? |
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| 01:20.34 | RoyOnWheels | unborn thanks a lot |
| 01:20.34 | wsky | gnarface: maybe they've switched to gtk4 |
| 01:20.43 | gnarface | wsky: :-p |
| 01:20.43 | wsky | gtk3* |
| 01:20.48 | wsky | trolol |
| 01:21.31 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, i am glad to helped to solved your problem with debian.. i really hope so you will enjoy it :) |
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| 01:22.08 | wsky | dafaq is wrong with dwm's utf support |
| 01:22.12 | wsky | or is it just the font |
| 01:22.31 | gnarface | puzle: plausible. i hadn't considered that |
| 01:22.41 | DebianUsr | what's the package name for tcl ? |
| 01:23.02 | RoyOnWheels | tightvnc ui looks crappy |
| 01:23.26 | puzle | DebianUsr: "tcl". |
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| 01:24.19 | DebianUsr | puzle, are you sure? hehe http://pastie.org/6357656 |
| 01:24.29 | wh1t3r4bb1t | http://pastebin.com/xJSVbPqj |
| 01:24.40 | DebianUsr | wait puzle, already the newest version.. lol.. |
| 01:24.42 | wh1t3r4bb1t | What am I doing wrong? |
| 01:24.46 | puzle | DebianUsr: you seem to have it installed... |
| 01:24.53 | DebianUsr | puzle i just read that :) |
| 01:25.12 | puzle | (note that the interactive shell is named "tclsh", not "tcl") |
| 01:25.34 | bartzy | Hey |
| 01:25.35 | bartzy | no dependency information found for library-file (used by binary). |
| 01:25.40 | bartzy | I get this error from dh-makeshlibs |
| 01:26.05 | bartzy | what I'm compiling is a package that depends on a library which I compiled and installed via checkinstall |
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| 01:26.25 | puzle | RoyOnWheels: perhaps you'd like "remmina" as the vnc client instead. |
| 01:26.37 | bartzy | I don't understand the error. I read the man page for dh-makeshlibs and still don't get what is wrong: dpkg -S shows me that the libarry file is part of the package I installed with checkinstall... |
| 01:28.16 | ooldirty | Hi guys, I'm dist-upgrading a Lenny machine to Squeeze, but some smart-alec decided it would be good to use an ancient, custom-compiled, monolithic kernel... Now I need the firmware-linux-nonfree package to finish the upgrade, but I can't seem to find it on archive.debian.org. Any hints where a fellow might find that? |
| 01:28.19 | RoyOnWheels | puzle maybe use tight everywhere |
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| 01:30.22 | boudiccas | ooldirty: Binary-only firmware was removed from the radeon <DRM> driver at linux-2.6 2.6.29-1 (Debian bug #494009), now packaged separately in firmware-linux-nonfree. Without this package installed, poor 2D/3D performance in the <radeon> and <radeonhd> xorg drivers is commonly experienced. To acquire, ask me about <non-free sources>. This is not required for use of the <fglrx> driver. the factoid fro dpkg |
| 01:30.38 | Mr_Queue | ooldirty: do you have non-free enabled? |
| 01:30.51 | ooldirty | http://archive.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free |
| 01:31.14 | Mr_Queue | aptitude search firmware-linux-nonfree |
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| 01:31.48 | ooldirty | :# aptitude search linux-firmware-nonfree |
| 01:31.50 | ooldirty | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:31.59 | RoyOnWheels | unborn ok, going back to lspci, nothing wifi listed |
| 01:32.04 | ooldirty | oh, nevermind. I'm a moron. |
| 01:32.40 | Mr_Queue | maybe it's firmware-linux-free now |
| 01:32.41 | RoyOnWheels | unborn gui network manager wouldn't let me pick wireless |
| 01:33.01 | Mr_Queue | err |
| 01:33.03 | Mr_Queue | firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 01:33.35 | ooldirty | nope, still comes back with nothing. i tried adding the squeeze repo to sources and just upgrade the kernel + F/W, but no juice. |
| 01:33.37 | unborn | so what is wifi line you noticed? :) |
| 01:33.44 | unborn | pull it out! |
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| 01:35.10 | ooldirty | anyway, because of that little shortcut, I now get a "E: Package firmware-linux-nonfree has no installation candidate" |
| 01:35.25 | acu_ | is there a way to install and run ceph and xfs in a debian wheezy instead of ext4 ? |
| 01:35.48 | ooldirty | I know the package existed for Lenny, I did this on a dozen servers last year, but they've all had /var/cache/apt/archives wiped out :\ |
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| 01:36.18 | Mr_Queue | ooldirty: humm... That's odd.. |
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| 01:40.17 | unborn | heh nothing? |
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| 01:45.30 | yvw | a general question to debian admins, what are the signs of a computer with debian on it already hacked or cracked? |
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| 01:46.32 | themill | dpkg: tell ooldirty about non-free sources |
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| 01:47.58 | wsky | yvw: the symptoms of a compromised system vary on the methods used to compromise it |
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| 01:48.20 | acu_ | yvw: that's a magic question, is like what are the signs of a sick human being (well there are 100,000 diseases) and they might show distinct features - depends what you have left open |
| 01:48.29 | yvw | wsky: Somebody edited a few things in my email cilent evolution. I dont know how they had access to my password. it was different and difficult to crack. |
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| 01:49.03 | yvw | acu_: You are right on that. I disablaed portmap daemon and all ports were closed. |
| 01:50.11 | wsky | yvw: in general, i'd say that unwaned network traffic would target on some breackage |
| 01:50.47 | yvw | wsky: What would be unwanted network traffic? I dont create any network traffic not does my computer had any to my knowledge. |
| 01:51.09 | yvw | nor* |
| 01:51.34 | unborn | yvw, pull out the hdd plug in clone and right away look at the logins.. read everything then log in to dbs (if any) and read evrything.. you will find the way in form the source and best is to get to the source and get them know you;ve been there heh |
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| 01:52.21 | yvw | unborn: my hdd is scrambled with a password. I had scrambed the hdd according to the latest features available on debian. |
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| 01:53.09 | yvw | unborn: That is the correct possibility. How do I manage physical hacks like somebody opening my computer. Is there a way to encrypt the harddrive completely? |
| 01:53.15 | unborn | yvw, do you have rw permissions to the files or just r one? |
| 01:53.39 | yvw | unborn: I have rw permissions on hdd after i enter a password for decrypting the hdd at bootup |
| 01:54.06 | unborn | bah that is very bad.. this could only happen if you let them root things.. root means there is not much to do.. mate |
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| 01:54.40 | yvw | unborn: what do you mean by let them root things? who are they? |
| 01:54.42 | unborn | so it was encrypted on your root account |
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| 01:54.50 | wsky | yvw: what things were edited? are you sure that it's not a feature of software upgrade? |
| 01:55.07 | wsky | yvw: and what is your hdd password? |
| 01:55.09 | wsky | j/k |
| 01:55.33 | unborn | yvw, someone had root access to that hdd.. means root password and user name to the root account |
| 01:56.07 | unborn | yvw, root = top admin.. can do all things |
| 01:56.37 | yvw | wsky: my hdd password is the same as loginname and root password |
| 01:56.58 | wsky | sry, i've "joked" a bit a bout this one |
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| 01:57.43 | wsky | yvw: more importantly i'd like to know what changed were made that you've started suspecting something suspicious! |
| 01:57.51 | wsky | changes |
| 01:58.36 | unborn | yvw, i may miss understand you.. if your hdd is password protected you need to log in.. and see the logs |
| 01:58.57 | unborn | logs are the past.. it will tells you everything |
| 01:59.14 | wsky | unborn: hdd encryption doesnt protect from real-time attacks |
| 02:00.05 | wsky | when the computer is actually running |
| 02:00.32 | yvw | wsky: signatures were added in evolution |
| 02:00.53 | wsky | what would that mean humm |
| 02:01.11 | yvw | wsky: can hdd encryption enscramble the hdd completely so that it cant be read while on windows or another linux machine? |
| 02:01.46 | wsky | well people say that yes but you have to use strong passwords for that as well |
| 02:01.54 | wsky | 20char minimum |
| 02:02.06 | unborn | wsky, i know.. user ask me how to find the source - i did reply in logical way - how ever in log he will see what and when it went wrong.. - how ever i did not say to the user that it will protect him or it will have impact on protection to hace encryption on hdd.. as we both know how server work, we both know what encrypt will do when i will hack to that server.. correct wsky ? |
| 02:02.32 | yvw | wsky: I have about 10 with names, symbols and upper, lowercase , numbers |
| 02:03.10 | wsky | that's vurnerable on brute-force attacks |
| 02:03.12 | RoyOnWheels | unborn so could wifi of been disabled in bois on install? |
| 02:03.23 | wsky | but this is not the case here i think |
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| 02:04.06 | yvw | wsky: Do you suggest that I increase password length to 20 ? |
| 02:04.08 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, lost man.. yes it could be bios it could be windows last usage it could be missing driver :) |
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| 02:04.44 | wsky | yvw: yes. and inspect the logs. |
| 02:04.58 | yvw | wsky: Where are the logs? in /var/log? |
| 02:05.01 | unborn | yes ..inspect the logs :D |
| 02:05.13 | unborn | wsky, hi5! |
| 02:05.17 | DebianUsr | how can i search for a file? because it says tcl is installed but the eggdrop script cant find it? |
| 02:05.19 | wsky | unborn: o/ |
| 02:05.29 | unborn | wsky, o/ |
| 02:05.52 | wsky | however i think that it's rather paranoidal pebkac |
| 02:06.13 | wsky | time to have a doze of my daily poison |
| 02:06.23 | wsky | which is tabacco smoke |
| 02:06.26 | wsky | :-( |
| 02:06.46 | dvs | thought it would be alcohol |
| 02:06.48 | unborn | wsky, last night one person 40 emails in one hour.. mam http://1arizonahomes.com/wp-content/uploads/fgallery/wps.php :) |
| 02:06.53 | yvw | wsky: Should I paste a log for you to look? |
| 02:06.56 | wsky | dvs: i would not mind |
| 02:07.08 | yvw | wsky: Please suggest which log you can take a look. |
| 02:07.11 | wsky | yvw: no, please no |
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| 02:09.03 | unborn | to dvs i starting feeling it :) |
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| 02:14.00 | yvw | wsky: The possibility of physically tackling the hdd is true ,I've been stalked by people from india and other countries. |
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| 02:14.23 | bigml | Any body in ChangSha China? |
| 02:14.37 | bigml | Hunantv is looking for linux programmer |
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| 02:14.50 | wsky | use outsourcing sites |
| 02:14.52 | bigml | please refer https://gist.github.com/bigml/5061934 if you intrest |
| 02:15.13 | wsky | you'll get your programmers in several days |
| 02:15.22 | wsky | but please do not spam here |
| 02:15.51 | yvw | wsky: most people are not doing programming in US. Instead, they are doing management, sales and marketing. |
| 02:16.20 | bigml | sorry for distrub |
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| 02:16.56 | Towzzer | that's not true, most high level programming is done here, c++ for banks, security software |
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| 02:17.07 | Towzzer | java and php is done elsewhere |
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| 02:18.46 | yvw | Towzzer: Yeah, bank software is done in C++ but software for phones, cars, machines are done in other countries |
| 02:19.14 | Towzzer | I would agree with that |
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| 02:20.42 | wsky | yvw: anyways, i'd stop using that hdd and change all passwords of accounts that you logged into from that machine in the time you could be exposed to some sort of data steal |
| 02:21.28 | wsky | yvw: i do not have better ideas about it |
| 02:21.39 | yvw | wsky: I will put some tape on the computer so that I'd know if a hdd is removed and change all passwords. |
| 02:21.45 | wsky | but if you're really worried |
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| 02:23.15 | wsky | however |
| 02:23.28 | wsky | i just recalled a funny thing |
| 02:23.38 | yvw | wsky: What is it? |
| 02:23.40 | wsky | i got this wireless 3G+ modem and my ald sony stereo |
| 02:23.43 | wsky | righ |
| 02:23.44 | wsky | t |
| 02:24.10 | wsky | so this stereo can somehow play sounds when you use a cell device |
| 02:24.13 | abyxcos | If my boot sequence stops at "Loading initrd ..." How do I go about debugging that one? |
| 02:24.20 | yvw | wsky: I have a neighbor who has a old sony stereo cassette deck |
| 02:24.42 | wsky | and i've started using my wireless modem nearby this stereo one day |
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| 02:25.09 | wsky | and i've started logging into my shell account |
| 02:25.28 | wsky | and i've heard each character go trought the air with a different sound! |
| 02:25.43 | wsky | durind the password input procedure. |
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| 02:25.51 | yvw | wsky: are you joking? how are they even connected? |
| 02:26.11 | wsky | i have no idea but some radios are sensitive to cell devices like that |
| 02:26.32 | wsky | so you actually hear some noises when a phone call/text message comes |
| 02:26.44 | wsky | or goes out |
| 02:26.50 | yvw | wsky: I'm on thinkpad T60 , it has some type of modem but I hardly believe that somebody is hacking into the modem. |
| 02:27.04 | abyxcos | Interferance (induction.) Thats why people love shielded cables. |
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| 02:27.40 | wsky | interesting |
| 02:27.42 | abyxcos | Some cheap speakers will buzz when a nearby cellphone gets a call/text. |
| 02:28.15 | abyxcos | Also the old stories of the mouse that would jump everywhere when the microwave oven turned on. |
| 02:28.32 | yvw | abyxcos: Yes, speakers would make some noise while making or receving gsm calls. |
| 02:29.52 | abyxcos | So how do I figure out what's wrong with my initrd? |
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| 02:30.17 | wsky | what seems to be the officer, problem? |
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| 02:33.02 | Towzzer | please state the nature of the debian emergency |
| 02:33.12 | wsky | eh seems that i'm the only one here that seen all southpark episodes |
| 02:33.51 | Towzzer | that line was from when stan's father was drunk |
| 02:34.01 | wsky | yeah, and driven a car |
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| 02:34.11 | Towzzer | wait, or was he high |
| 02:34.18 | wsky | the ep was called |
| 02:34.28 | wsky | he was drinking and driving |
| 02:34.28 | dvs | feels old when he knows where the original line comes from |
| 02:34.29 | Towzzer | I've seen all south park episode smultiple times |
| 02:34.36 | wsky | same |
| 02:35.05 | Towzzer | dvs, it's from cheech and chong |
| 02:35.12 | Towzzer | probably when they were high in a car |
| 02:35.14 | dvs | ??? |
| 02:35.42 | Towzzer | I thought it was in one of their movies |
| 02:35.43 | wsky | the movie about the mexican and american hippies smuggling dope? |
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| 02:35.57 | Towzzer | yes |
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| 02:42.53 | abyxcos | How do I debug an initrd? |
| 02:43.06 | abyxcos | Looks like it never calls init. |
| 02:43.20 | abyxcos | Or at least it dies while calling /init. |
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| 02:50.56 | confusid | when using adduser If I use a C to start a name with it errors saying please use regualr expression etc.. but if I use a name to start with a lower case c.. Works. What would cause this? |
| 02:52.00 | zykotick9 | confusid: usernames need to be lowercase, i think |
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| 02:52.54 | confusid | I have never come across this error before :) |
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| 02:55.04 | unborn | confusid, you answered your question |
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| 03:01.29 | dgriffi | can someone tell me what I might have done if suddently localhost:631 isn't answering anymore but printing still happens? |
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| 03:05.39 | addaitech | confusid try using --force-badname |
| 03:05.43 | addaitech | when adding the username |
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| 03:05.51 | confusid | ok |
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| 03:10.05 | yvw | wsky: Do you use coffee cups and saucers in your country? this is offtopic |
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| 03:14.57 | neon__ | anyone knows how to move a hardisk from vmware to a laptop, and have it boot? |
| 03:15.31 | neon__ | I think it misses a driver or something, the screen is blank |
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| 03:21.59 | in2tactics | neon__: i think your question requires a bit more explanation. you want to move a debian vm on one computer to debian baremetal on another computer? on a side note, vm questions like that are a bit off-topic |
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| 03:33.13 | azizLIGHTS | the netinst is telling me that it needs a non-free firmware file called rt2561s.bin . where do i get this from? all i see is a deb file on packages.debian.org |
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| 03:34.50 | abrotman | azizLIGHTS: there's a firmware tarball |
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| 03:36.12 | azizLIGHTS | the source package? |
| 03:36.30 | shazbotmcnasty | Hey. I unticked the waldorf repo in synaptic. And now synaptic won't open. |
| 03:36.45 | shazbotmcnasty | How would I go about getting that waldorf repo re'ticked' without opening synaptic? |
| 03:37.46 | shazbotmcnasty | I reckoned it would be simple. |
| 03:38.59 | azizLIGHTS | abrotman: thanks, found it |
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| 03:44.57 | shazbotmcnasty | meh |
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| 03:50.46 | dgriffi | I'm having a problem with blurry printouts... anyone keen on this sort of thing? |
| 03:52.08 | dgriffi | printing with evince or atril produce prints with blurry edges, but through lpr it's fine. anyone know what's wrong? |
| 03:55.42 | dgriffi | anyone? |
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| 03:59.00 | azizLIGHTS | whats a "file server" in the netinst |
| 03:59.06 | azizLIGHTS | a samba server? |
| 03:59.15 | azizLIGHTS | is it a samba |
| 04:01.14 | Coweater | azizLIGHTS: nfs and samba, see metapackage task-file-server |
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| 04:01.41 | azizLIGHTS | Coweater: thank you :) |
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| 04:02.19 | themill | ,depends task-file-server --release wheezy |
| 04:02.20 | judd | Package task-file-server in wheezy/i386 -- depends: tasksel, nfs-kernel-server, samba. |
| 04:02.22 | themill | azizLIGHTS: ^^ |
| 04:02.47 | azizLIGHTS | thanks thanks :D |
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| 04:18.12 | azizLIGHTS | well i installed debian and as soon as the system boots up my tv screen is scrolling down continuously so fast that i cannot read anything. i have a geforce fx 5200 and i output video through the s-video out to my crt tv's s-video input. |
| 04:18.25 | azizLIGHTS | my bios posts properly without any scrolling |
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| 04:18.39 | azizLIGHTS | i am not in any gui in debian |
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| 04:20.02 | azizLIGHTS | it looks like a slots machine, when its scrolling |
| 04:20.32 | well_laid_lawn | old tele is it? |
| 04:21.25 | azizLIGHTS | yeah its a crt tv, with s-video input, composite input, and cable antenna input only |
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| 04:21.41 | azizLIGHTS | oh and component video input too |
| 04:25.05 | azizLIGHTS | i managed to figure out that if i put nomodeset in grub, i dont get the scrolling |
| 04:25.34 | azizLIGHTS | why is this scrolling happening, and is there a more permanent solution to it than using nomodeset in grub |
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| 04:31.53 | well_laid_lawn | azizLIGHTS: tried playing with the dials on the tele to tune in to the signal a bit better? |
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| 04:32.06 | azizLIGHTS | heh |
| 04:32.30 | well_laid_lawn | that was a serious suggestion |
| 04:32.44 | azizLIGHTS | its not that old :) |
| 04:32.46 | well_laid_lawn | old crt's do that |
| 04:33.07 | well_laid_lawn | should be a vsync or vhold dial |
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| 04:34.58 | azizLIGHTS | nope, i dont have any luxury on my tv |
| 04:35.01 | azizLIGHTS | like that |
| 04:35.20 | well_laid_lawn | oh well looks like you'll have to use nomodest |
| 04:35.22 | well_laid_lawn | bbiab |
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| 04:59.36 | azizLIGHTS | im in a livecd and i edited my debian's /etc/default/grub file to add nomodeset. how do i do update-grub from the livecd onto the hdd os |
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| 05:00.34 | pfred1 | is it a bug if my install didn't comment out the CD in my sources.list file? |
| 05:00.42 | RocketLauncher | I keep getting "E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'default-jre'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)" when I do a dist-upgrade. Googling didn't find me much and I don't know what else to do. Any ideas? |
| 05:01.10 | dondelelcaro | pfred1: no |
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| 05:01.31 | pfred1 | dondelelcaro I thought it used to |
| 05:01.36 | dondelelcaro | pfred1: it's assumed that if you installed from a full CD that you'd prefer to use the CD. it's trivial enough to comment it out |
| 05:01.52 | dondelelcaro | if you install from a netinst, it should get commented out |
| 05:01.55 | pfred1 | dondelelcaro sell that theory to someone who has never run Linux before |
| 05:02.33 | pfred1 | yeah it was a net install as a matter of fact |
| 05:02.49 | dondelelcaro | pfred1: not just a net install; a netinst CD. |
| 05:03.08 | dondelelcaro | pfred1: but it's not like prompting to insert a disk is particularly arduous |
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| 05:04.29 | pfred1 | how does that old saying go about never arguing with an idiot? |
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| 05:06.23 | DebianUsr | dondelelcaro, he was just upset he did not know what sources.list was :S |
| 05:06.26 | dondelelcaro | RocketLauncher: that can happen if the upgrade set is fairly large |
| 05:07.07 | dondelelcaro | RocketLauncher: it's a bug, however I think you might be able to get things to work if you upgrade apt before running the dist upgrade |
| 05:07.33 | RocketLauncher | upgrading apt itself you mean? |
| 05:07.41 | RocketLauncher | i'll try that |
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| 05:08.25 | dondelelcaro | RocketLauncher: right. And you might also want to try try to explicitly upgrade default-jre once apt is upgraded if you still get the same error message |
| 05:09.42 | RocketLauncher | ok thanks |
| 05:10.11 | dondelelcaro | RocketLauncher: (that's mentioned in man apt.conf; too) |
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| 05:14.29 | DebianUsr | i found this just browsing along the lines of 'aptitude sources list' cause i wanted to see what else i can do with the list and here is what i found: http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ kinda funny i think |
| 05:16.30 | azizLIGHTS | how do i connect to wifi from a base install... |
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| 05:23.49 | superlinux-hp | hi all |
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| 05:26.57 | superlinux-hp | I have a serious problem. sometimes, i cannot browse the internet without unless I reboot. i can browse only when i connect thru "tor". and i am behind an opened proxy. so what should i do? |
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| 05:33.50 | shalom938__ | Guys, I'm so confused reading about secure boot and uefi, just got a new pc with windows 8 on it and want to install debian testing. I disabled secure bood. bit knoppix won't boot completely. mint does. can someone hand me a link to a good guide on what should I do, how to install debian. thanks. |
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| 05:35.30 | jonathanpoon | I'm currently trying to upgrade a computer where my home directory that contains about 20TB of data. What is the fastest way of transfering the data? Ethernet? Or is there a way to transfer through hard drives? |
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| 05:35.59 | wsky | am i reading it right? |
| 05:36.05 | tehrabbi1t | Quick question, trying to bring up eth2, currently it's going to be a bridge member of br0 however when I try to ifup eth2 it says the interface doesn't exist. the card is there, I modprobed' it, but it didnt' show up |
| 05:36.19 | wsky | your home contains 20 TERABYTES of data? |
| 05:36.24 | jonathanpoon | its a server.. |
| 05:36.36 | jonathanpoon | I do a lot of computational work... |
| 05:36.45 | wsky | ic |
| 05:37.02 | jonathanpoon | I guess what I'm thinking is.. |
| 05:37.13 | tehrabbi1t | root@NEAT:/home/aitadmin# ip -s link show eth1 |
| 05:37.13 | tehrabbi1t | Device "eth1" does not exist. |
| 05:37.17 | tehrabbi1t | any ideas? |
| 05:37.26 | jonathanpoon | is there a program that can split the data into 2TB chunks |
| 05:37.42 | jonathanpoon | but I can't store all chunks..but where I can determine which 2TB chunk and copy it to a hard drive? |
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| 05:37.50 | wsky | well i'm suprised that you ask such questions on #debian working with such amounts of data at the same time |
| 05:38.18 | jonathanpoon | lol...this is the first time I've had to do this task |
| 05:38.55 | azizLIGHTS | ah, got the wifi connected |
| 05:39.15 | wsky | you must have expensive hardware as well |
| 05:39.20 | wsky | and big responsibility |
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| 05:39.33 | jonathanpoon | nah...24 -2TB hard drives man... |
| 05:39.37 | wsky | tehrabbi1t: did you look into dmesg? |
| 05:39.51 | tehrabbi1t | wsky: yeah, cassini.bin isn't loading |
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| 05:40.03 | tehrabbi1t | I did apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 05:40.13 | tehrabbi1t | i can do modprobe cassini but nada. |
| 05:40.34 | wsky | a disk wont spint by itself :-P |
| 05:40.38 | wsky | spin |
| 05:40.58 | wsky | tehrabbi1t: can you paste the error line here? |
| 05:41.30 | tehrabbi1t | it just says that it can't load cassini.bin |
| 05:41.36 | tehrabbi1t | brb going to try a different card |
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| 05:42.37 | wsky | tehrabbi1t: idk i'm totally unfamiliar with sun hardware |
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| 05:44.04 | superlinux-hp | I have a serious problem. sometimes, i cannot browse the internet without unless I reboot. i can browse only when i connect thru "tor". and i am behind an opened proxy. so what should i do? |
| 05:44.38 | azizLIGHTS | im trying to configure sudo, using http://wiki.debian.org/sudo , im on the step that says "# adduser foo sudo" ... i checked "groups" command and i dont have a sudo group. how do i proceed |
| 05:45.26 | themill | azizLIGHTS: you need to log out and log in again for group changes to take effect |
| 05:45.45 | azizLIGHTS | ahh |
| 05:46.14 | azizLIGHTS | i logged back in, i still see no sudo in g"groups" |
| 05:46.38 | azizLIGHTS | i typed "groups" and up comes: "decepticon cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev netdev" |
| 05:46.41 | azizLIGHTS | thats it |
| 05:46.48 | wsky | gpasswd -a user sudo |
| 05:46.52 | themill | azizLIGHTS: how are you logging in? |
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| 05:47.07 | azizLIGHTS | themill: on the cli on tty1 |
| 05:48.25 | azizLIGHTS | i am startin from a base install from netinst cd. i just did # apt-get install sudo |
| 05:48.41 | azizLIGHTS | and now trying to follow directions to get sudo configured. not sure what to do |
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| 05:49.09 | azizLIGHTS | whats step 2, after apt-get install sudo... |
| 05:49.30 | azizLIGHTS | http://wiki.debian.org/sudo seems to be thinking i did a desktop install, and is jumping ahead |
| 05:49.32 | themill | azizLIGHTS: as root "adduser yourusername sudo" |
| 05:49.59 | tehrabbi1t | here's a better question... "Starting MTA" hangs there, doesnt' do anything... if memory serves me right, I need to add localhost to hosts, right? |
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| 05:50.49 | azizLIGHTS | themill: ok that did it. now i logged back in and "groups" shows sudo now |
| 05:52.37 | azizLIGHTS | so its just possible to add a user to any xyz group even if xyz group doesnt exist? it will be created automatically? |
| 05:52.38 | tehrabbi1t | nope, still hanging :( |
| 05:52.42 | tehrabbi1t | any way to remove MTA? |
| 05:53.23 | themill | fixing it sounds like a better solution than trying to blow it away |
| 05:53.54 | wsky | tehrabbi1t: can't you disable exim startup script? |
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| 05:54.56 | dondelelcaro | azizLIGHTS: it should be an error. [It's possible to have users in non-existant groups, but that's generally a bad idea.] |
| 05:55.10 | dondelelcaro | azizLIGHTS: however, in this case, the sudo group does exist. |
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| 05:55.24 | azizLIGHTS | ah ok, because i installed sudo with apt-get, presumably the group was also created then |
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| 05:56.07 | azizLIGHTS | is there a way to see the UUID of a partition |
| 05:56.16 | azizLIGHTS | i want to specify the UUID to /etc/fstab |
| 05:56.33 | azizLIGHTS | for mountin at boot |
| 05:59.03 | themill | blkid |
| 06:00.00 | wsky | azizLIGHTS: another way is ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid |
| 06:00.19 | azizLIGHTS | cool, thanks |
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| 06:03.35 | factor | Has anyone worked with setting up BIOS RAID array on debian, I had setup my RAID in ASUS BIOS untily. but still only see individual drives. |
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| 06:04.02 | factor | Do I use software RAID utilities for BIOs RAID devices |
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| 06:09.11 | azizLIGHTS | why does the base system isntall exim4 |
| 06:09.42 | azizLIGHTS | and bsd-mailx |
| 06:11.43 | themill | because every unix-like system needs a mail-transport-agent to provide asynchronous notification |
| 06:12.06 | themill | (exim is a poor choice for this, but changing things in Debian takes a while...) |
| 06:13.40 | wsky | dunno i've skipped that on gentoo |
| 06:13.49 | themill | that's nice |
| 06:14.15 | wsky | everything worked for 2 years |
| 06:14.29 | wsky | i also disable exim on my debian desktop/laptop hosts |
| 06:14.41 | wsky | i have no shame |
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| 06:21.14 | Buttons840 | about the terminal: I am running geany from the terminal using "geany my_doc.txt &" but geany keeps printing error messages to the terminal? can I hide these error or pipe them off somewhere? |
| 06:22.29 | wsky | Buttons840: yes to /dev/null |
| 06:22.41 | wsky | 2>/dev/null |
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| 06:23.24 | wsky | Buttons840: are you serious btw? |
| 06:23.49 | Buttons840 | wsky: yes; the 2 was key -- i was just doing > /dev/null |
| 06:24.05 | Buttons840 | 2 means everything; or just stderr? |
| 06:24.18 | wsky | just stderr ... |
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| 06:24.25 | wsky | i can't belive it |
| 06:24.52 | wsky | you write code in this ide, you know what stderr is and you ask how to redirect it to /dev/null here |
| 06:24.58 | wsky | :-P |
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| 06:27.26 | Buttons840 | heh; fair enough -- things like remembering the 2 aren't intuitive and I forget them |
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| 06:29.08 | wsky | idk maybe different shells do it in different ways, i had no need going beyond sh and bash |
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| 06:30.24 | wsky | and the best rc file for zsh contains just /bin/bash |
| 06:30.36 | Buttons840 | i don't use different shells either, but I've never mastered bash, just got bye |
| 06:30.47 | wsky | :-D |
| 06:30.56 | wsky | me neither |
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| 06:32.45 | EasyAsPie | hi |
| 06:32.54 | wsky | hey |
| 06:33.14 | wsky | lol weechat made it to 0.4.0? |
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| 06:38.23 | wsky | at least someone still develops console irc clients |
| 06:39.10 | scarrz | how do I edit the grub background and font size and other theme options? |
| 06:39.11 | Buttons840 | at least someone still develops irc clients |
| 06:39.35 | Buttons840 | is weechat worth a look? i use irssi now |
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| 06:40.36 | wsky | looks more feature-ritch than irssi |
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| 06:41.06 | wsky | at least has one feature that irssi is lacking :-P |
| 06:41.26 | wsky | that is, a proper spellchecker |
| 06:41.50 | Buttons840 | who needs spell cheking? |
| 06:41.54 | wsky | i do |
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| 06:42.17 | zykotick9 | wsky: the real-time spellcheck in weechat is probably it's only feature i like more then irssi (that i've returned too) |
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| 06:42.47 | wsky | i never broke up with irssi :-P |
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| 06:43.58 | wsky | i'm a bit worried because they had no newer releases since 2 years or something? |
| 06:45.16 | wsky | maybe they're preparing speciall pro edition of it |
| 06:45.53 | wsky | for $20 only! |
| 06:46.21 | wsky | lulz |
| 06:46.26 | Buttons840 | who does that? |
| 06:46.39 | wsky | no one, i'm lame-joking |
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| 06:47.06 | Buttons840 | could be a market I guess; all I hear people talking about these days are Pinterest and irc |
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| 06:48.27 | wsky | :o |
| 06:49.09 | in2tactics | irssi FTW! |
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| 06:50.08 | in2tactics | oh wait, irssi + tmux FTW! |
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| 06:52.31 | azizLIGHTS | if i were to plug in a usb flash drive, would it auto mount? debian wheezy |
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| 06:52.59 | dshep | irssi + tmux + mosh |
| 06:53.13 | wsky | poor connection? |
| 06:53.54 | wsky | azizLIGHTS: autofs |
| 06:54.08 | tralala` | azizLIGHTS, yes, it would |
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| 06:55.08 | azizLIGHTS | it would do it on a base install as well? |
| 06:55.18 | azizLIGHTS | where does it auto mount? |
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| 06:55.39 | wsky | it does not by default. |
| 06:56.03 | azizLIGHTS | ah ok. good |
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| 07:20.57 | wsky | so |
| 07:21.05 | wsky | anyone here played quake 2 world? |
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| 07:22.40 | fling | http://people.debian.org/~timo/kernelpaniccat/IMG_2895r.JPG |
| 07:23.18 | wsky | rofl |
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| 07:24.40 | fling | wsky: http://people.debian.org/~timo/kernelpaniccat/IMG_2893r.JPG |
| 07:24.51 | fredl | 'morning guys. It would seem that my nscd 1) reports the wrong statistics, or 2) does no caching at all. |
| 07:25.34 | fredl | this is on wheezy, when I do nscd -g, I get a cache hit rate of 0% on all databases. Any clue what may be the problem? |
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| 07:29.17 | killermoehre | good morning. a dev in my company wants perl 5.16 on a debian stable machine. what is the suggested way to install it? |
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| 07:43.18 | boudiccas | ,v perl |
| 07:43.19 | judd | Package: perl on i386 -- lenny: 5.10.0-19lenny5; lenny-security: 5.10.0-19lenny5; squeeze-security: 5.10.1-17squeeze2; squeeze-security: 5.10.1-17squeeze4; squeeze: 5.10.1-17squeeze5; sid: 5.14.2-18; wheezy: 5.14.2-18; experimental: 5.16.2-2 |
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| 07:43.56 | boudiccas | killermoehre: theres your answer, upgrade to experimental, good luck! |
| 07:44.42 | killermoehre | boudiccas: I need perl on x86_64. and the update to experimental doesn't work due to unresoleved deps |
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| 07:47.31 | homes | killermoehre: this is not at all surprising |
| 07:48.28 | killermoehre | homes: so I should build ot from source and put the perl-dependant application in some chroot |
| 07:48.30 | killermoehre | ? |
| 07:48.53 | homes | killermoehre: compile and install it into /usr/local/, or if you're into more scalable solutions, create a package |
| 07:48.53 | killermoehre | *it |
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| 07:49.23 | homes | i suspect you can have two perl installs, one being in /usr/local/, without drama |
| 07:49.42 | homes | the perl channel will be able to tell you, would be surprised if a chroot was needed |
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| 07:53.04 | nyuszika7h | boudiccas: "update to experimental" is most likely going to screw up everything if you're using squeeze. |
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| 07:53.19 | nyuszika7h | even installing packages from wheezy/sid can mess up things. |
| 07:53.20 | nyuszika7h | !ssb |
| 07:53.21 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 07:53.39 | nyuszika7h | should work for experimental, but still, experimental is experimental for a reason. |
| 07:56.50 | jelly-home | killermoehre: yes, set up an isolated prefix like /opt/perl5.16 and install therein from source |
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| 08:09.58 | roothorick | I need kernel 2.6.34 on a squeeze machine for an updated driver (specifically amd64_edac_mod). What's the best way to go about it? |
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| 08:10.34 | homes | roothorick: can you use 3.2 from squeeze-backports? |
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| 08:10.57 | roothorick | ....hmmm. maybe I jumped the gun on thinking it didn't work |
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| 08:12.13 | roothorick | wow, looks like it's indeed working. When edac-util says "1 MC detected" MC == memory controller, right? |
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| 09:06.00 | Snaps | I'm trying to make a debian package of a shared library that has a 'tests' make target that compiles&runs some testprograms linking with the newly generated library. The problem is that dh passes -shared in LDFLAGS for override_dh_auto_test too, so the applications are compiled as shared libraries which makes them crash on startup. Is it possible to tell dh not to treat the auto_test target as a shared library but pass all other LD&CFLA |
| 09:06.00 | Snaps | GS? |
| 09:06.03 | j0d3 | hi |
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| 09:06.47 | somiaj | Snaps: #debian-mentor on irc.oftc.net is a good place for packing questions. |
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| 09:07.01 | Snaps | okay, thanks! |
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| 09:07.54 | somiaj | I would imangine it is possible, have you checked out the documentation |
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| 09:20.15 | franco00 | quick q: I am using wput to upload stuff to a ftp site. But is it possible to /synchronise/ files (i.e. I delete a file in a local folder and wput deletes it on the server?) |
| 09:20.33 | ectospasm | I use rsync for that, franco00 |
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| 09:23.15 | ChrisH | but rsync cannot handle ftp as protocoll, only rsh and ssh |
| 09:24.09 | franco00 | yeah, and this is a simple shared hosting, ChrisH and ectospasm |
| 09:25.00 | ectospasm | I think mc can be used to sync directories, but I don't use that feature |
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| 09:26.01 | optraz | how do i replied maililng list which is found in google? |
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| 09:26.47 | ChrisH | franco00: and how do you access that host? ssh? |
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| 09:27.24 | franco00 | ftp, ChrisH , ans some https panel (directadmin) |
| 09:27.31 | franco00 | optraz: can you please link us the list? |
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| 09:50.04 | ChrisH | spikor: flash is, was, and will be evil. But I assume this is not what you want to hear. Sorry no other idea, but I see flash probelems everywhere, too. |
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| 09:52.22 | spikor | well i know ChrisH, i tried to watch the movies with html5 but some are with ads so there is no other option :/ |
| 09:52.40 | HauM1 | or is rngd only usefull with a HW-rng-device? |
| 09:53.27 | ksuhku | spikor, one workaround would be to try gnash |
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| 10:35.38 | puzle | Hi. I'm installing Debian on a remote computer via ssh. The installation is almost finished but I would like to execute a command there, however, I can't either use "in-target" (apt-install or in-target is already running) nor "chroot /target" (can't execute '/bin/network-console': No such file or directory). |
| 10:35.43 | puzle | Do I have any other options? |
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| 10:43.52 | nkuttler | puzle: can you paste the exact commands + errors? paste.debian.net |
| 10:44.42 | puzle | Got it working (the exact errors were the sentences in parens). |
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| 10:44.56 | puzle | The solution was "chroot /target /bin/sh". |
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| 10:51.33 | LinaSovereign | Hey ! |
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| 10:54.31 | gh0st3r | getting some mad kernel panics |
| 10:54.33 | gh0st3r | anyone here to help? |
| 10:55.15 | joltcan | gh0st3r: is it a standard debian kernel? |
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| 10:57.20 | no_gravity | Hello! I want to format an usb stick to play mp3s in my car radio. What partition do i put on it? fat32? and how do i do that under debian? "mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdb1" ? |
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| 10:58.11 | gh0st3r | joltcan |
| 10:58.12 | joltcan | gh0st3r: ...if so, try running memtest first, bad memory is always a place where I would start to check |
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| 10:58.14 | gh0st3r | yes |
| 10:58.29 | gh0st3r | joltcan its on bootup |
| 10:58.31 | jpinx | no_gravity: yes - usb sticks "prefer" vfat32 .. man mkfs |
| 10:58.58 | gh0st3r | message is PANIC: early exception 08 rip 246:10 error ffffffff81366353 cr2 0 |
| 10:59.15 | killermoehre | no_gravity: mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1 should be enough |
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| 10:59.29 | jpinx | no_gravity: did you do something to the stick to change the fs? They can be a bit fussy and sometimes it only works if you format it in windows |
| 10:59.49 | joltcan | gh0st3r: wheezy? 3.x kernel? |
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| 11:01.03 | gh0st3r | joltscan, trying to boot a 3.x and 2.6.x kernel |
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| 11:01.06 | gh0st3r | squeeze |
| 11:01.12 | joltcan | gh0st3r: seems to be something related to memory, try adding mem=Xg in grub |
| 11:01.12 | gh0st3r | just trying to reinstall OS now |
| 11:01.14 | no_gravity | jpinx: i formatted it often before. to install linux distors from it. but now i want to use it in my car. |
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| 11:01.32 | gh0st3r | maybe I'll give that a god |
| 11:01.33 | gh0st3r | go* |
| 11:01.37 | no_gravity | jpinx: formatted it with mkfs.vfat -F 32 now. Will see if it plays in my car. |
| 11:01.38 | jpinx | no_gravity: ok - np - see my comments above ;) |
| 11:01.47 | joltcan | gh0st3r: huh, thats weird. never had any exceptions myself with any of those, I googled "kernel panic early exception boot" |
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| 11:05.53 | khem__ | How do I manually sign a Debian package? |
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| 11:12.21 | puzle | After installing Wheezy using ssh from the RC1, I can't connect at all to the target machine. I've tried restarting the sshd but all I get is: "Warning: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing". |
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| 11:16.52 | gh0st3r | joltcan now having file system issues :( |
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| 11:18.22 | joltcan | gh0st3r: probably after you boot and the system dies. Try memcheck. |
| 11:18.24 | gh0st3r | garrrrrr |
| 11:18.28 | nse | Just love Debian. |
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| 11:20.11 | gh0st3r | holtcan, my issues : http://i.imgur.com/xwlkEu8.png |
| 11:20.38 | joltcan | gh0st3r: Thats a drive/bus failure |
| 11:20.41 | gh0st3r | joltcan* |
| 11:20.43 | gh0st3r | shit |
| 11:20.55 | gh0st3r | just installed xen |
| 11:20.57 | joltcan | gh0st3r: maybe your motherboard is going down? |
| 11:20.58 | gh0st3r | could it be that? |
| 11:21.00 | gh0st3r | on that kernel |
| 11:21.09 | gh0st3r | thats a xen enabled kernel |
| 11:21.10 | joltcan | No idea, sorry |
| 11:21.17 | gh0st3r | just realised it boots my normal kernel XD |
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| 11:21.19 | gh0st3r | no worries |
| 11:21.21 | gena2x | yes, even hdd failure, sata cable or controller on hdd |
| 11:21.27 | gena2x | *of |
| 11:21.36 | gena2x | most probably sata cable |
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| 11:31.34 | waq | Hello I'm new. How are you |
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| 11:33.02 | joltcan | :) |
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| 11:39.17 | d3xter | hey guys |
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| 11:39.44 | d3xter | how come, that a couple of apps like Iceweasel or Texmaker start in floating mode on awesome-wm and others like evince doesnt? |
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| 11:52.12 | ziman | hello, I am unable to resolve this by googling: it appears that midnight commander won't open symlinks using <enter>; they point to FLV files that themselves can be opened without problems, and running mplayer x.flv does work |
| 11:52.31 | ziman | does anybody have a clue what I could do about it or where I could look for advice? |
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| 12:12.15 | Rienzilla | hmm |
| 12:12.23 | Rienzilla | does wpasupplicant deconfigure an interface on link loss? |
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| 12:17.19 | aeroot | hey, my interfaces file is configured for wlan0 not als dhcp or static but "manual" - what does that mean? I cant find it in the manual |
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| 12:20.37 | babilen | aeroot: See interfaces(5) (among other documentation) |
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| 12:24.36 | babilen | dpkg: tell aeroot about interfaces |
| 12:25.01 | aeroot | babilen: so it says that scripts handle everything for this interface? so for example that wpa_supplicant can handle it itselves? |
| 12:26.44 | babilen | aeroot: I have no idea what you configured and what you intend to do. But yeah, that is my understanding too. It is the common approach if you want to use wpasupplicant in roaming mode. (cf. /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz) |
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| 12:30.34 | babilen | aeroot: How would you like to configure your interface? Do you have to connect to multiple networks? Do they change frequently or infrequently? Do you use a graphical environment of some sort? Do you always connect to networks within a specific set or are you rather a network-nomad that changes networks all the time? |
| 12:30.56 | aeroot | babilen: this is the preconfigured state. wpasupplicant is used in roaming mode. i just want to understand what is done there. |
| 12:31.20 | babilen | aeroot: Preconfigured by what? |
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| 12:32.47 | failure | Perhaps the maintainer of RESOLVCONF is here ? |
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| 12:33.42 | Sevet | is there any setting in the kernel that might rate limit TTL Expired in Transit ping replies? |
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| 12:34.31 | Sevet | iptables is empty, but i'm seeing a lot of 'ping -t 2 a.b.c.d' request packets hitting the server in tcpdump but nothing sent back |
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| 12:37.52 | failure | Sevet: ls /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_* |
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| 12:39.24 | Sevet | failure: thanks, just found my answer icmp_ratelimit |
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| 12:40.01 | failure | Sevet: np :) |
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| 12:44.22 | niklaswe | has someone setup pxeboot-server with shred auto nuke?? |
| 12:44.41 | niklaswe | and if so, how did you do so shred autostarting? |
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| 12:45.20 | aeroot | babilen: preconfigured at my image with wpasupplicant installed |
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| 12:47.09 | babilen | aeroot: Sorry, I don't quite follow. The Debian installer does not configure wireless in that way. Is this Debian are something based on it? |
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| 12:49.27 | aeroot | babilen: it is just debian-based. it is a raspberry pi with the official raspbian image |
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| 12:50.46 | Bor0 | !seen |
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| 12:52.45 | babilen | aeroot: You might want to ask in #raspbian in that case (this channel is for Debian only) :) |
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| 12:55.06 | aeroot | babilen: i just thought the interfaces file is a general debian thing, istn't it? |
| 12:56.11 | Towzzer | redhat doesn't use it, sadly |
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| 12:56.28 | puzle | aeroot: many concepts are shared between various distributions, but we support Debian here only. |
| 12:56.56 | Sevet | !tell aeroot about based on debian |
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| 12:57.49 | aeroot | babilen: anyway, my question already got answered here. thanks! |
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| 12:58.20 | aeroot | but now i know for the next time |
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| 12:59.58 | hhjear | hi, when I make a reboot the system is waiting with "Deconfiguring network interfaces" message, why? it is useful? how can disable? |
| 13:00.01 | cab00t | Guys, if I download Debian Wheezy dvd1 from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/wheezy_di_rc1/amd64/iso-dvd/ , what tool should I use to make a bootable USB stick and with what options? (preferably a Windows tool) Also, what desktop enviorment does it have by default, if any? |
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| 13:00.46 | puzle | cab00t: win32-image-writer can do it. IIRC, the default desktop environment is Gnome, but you can choose not to install any. |
| 13:00.57 | cab00t | I love gnome, awesome. |
| 13:01.02 | cab00t | Ok, thanks a lot puzle. :) |
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| 13:01.17 | jelly | !usb install |
| 13:01.17 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Ask me about <plop>. |
| 13:01.47 | jelly | cab00t: you can peruse that link to sf.net |
| 13:02.12 | cab00t | jelly, can you rephrase? |
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| 13:04.07 | cab00t | jelly, got it, sry. :p |
| 13:04.45 | Leoneof | hello, what's new in Wheezy RC1 ? new packages? |
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| 13:06.06 | cab00t | I learned a new word today, awesome: peruse - to read or examine, typically with great care. |
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| 13:06.26 | puzle | Leoneof: news are here: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2013/20130217 |
| 13:07.59 | Leoneof | puzle: thanks |
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| 13:16.55 | x_or | i am trying to use a tool that interacts with usb within a chroot. lsusb sees the device. But, the commnd does not work properly, so i assume things are not setup correctly. |
| 13:17.29 | x_or | Do i need to mount /dev as rw perhaps? |
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| 13:19.23 | apathor | x_or: what is the usb device? what is the tool? |
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| 13:20.22 | x_or | it is my android phone and i am trying to use adb (the android device manager) to install apk files apathor. |
| 13:21.27 | hectorlopez | good morning |
| 13:21.28 | apathor | what does 'adb devices' show you |
| 13:21.48 | x_or | shows a device but says ???? |
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| 13:24.35 | apathor | x_or: http://developer.android.com/tools/device.html#setting-up <- might help |
| 13:25.00 | ChrisH | x_or: try a sudo adb kill-server : sudo adb start-server and check again. or run as root |
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| 13:25.35 | ChrisH | I had similar issues and all tries to have udev create a less restritive devicefile failed. udev and me are no friends |
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| 13:31.11 | x_or | ChrisH, apathor: good tips,maybe root is the issue. |
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| 13:31.40 | lei | hello everyone |
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| 13:33.05 | lei | i have a problem setting my php memory_limit above 1024 (i know this is not good but i need that for a magento importer)... if i do php_value memory_limit 1024M its set to 1024M ... if i set 2048M it is set to 128M |
| 13:33.12 | lei | does anyone have an idea? |
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| 13:33.39 | jelly | x_or: but... which part of that question is debian related? |
| 13:34.07 | lupine | oh, magento ^^ |
| 13:34.17 | lupine | it could be a compiled-in limit |
| 13:34.28 | lupine | said compilation would be done by debian, so it'd be a debian-specific question in that case |
| 13:34.35 | x_or | jelly: there is not a chroot channel. if there is a better place to ask i am open to going there. |
| 13:34.35 | lei | thx for response lupine! do you know how to check that? |
| 13:34.54 | jelly | x_or: #android perhaps |
| 13:34.58 | jhutchins_wk | lei: What file are you changing? |
| 13:35.10 | lupine | lei, if it is that, it'll be set in the debian/rules or so of the php source package |
| 13:35.25 | lupine | I don't know if it is, though |
| 13:35.33 | lei | jutchins_wk i am doing it via .htaccess file it works up to 1024 |
| 13:35.38 | x_or | jelly: why do you ask? |
| 13:35.38 | jhutchins_wk | PHP's memory limit should be configurable. |
| 13:35.46 | lei | but any value above 1024 will make php use the php.ini setting 128M |
| 13:35.53 | jhutchins_wk | lei: Ok, check for the php.ini file instead |
| 13:35.58 | lei | suhosin.memory_limit didnt change a thin either |
| 13:36.05 | ChrisH | lei: test 2147483648 |
| 13:36.07 | jelly | x_or: well... this channel is for Debian tech support |
| 13:36.53 | x_or | jelly: does that mean questions about debian packages? |
| 13:37.45 | lei | ChrisH doesnt work either :( |
| 13:37.46 | jelly | x_or: no, any tech questions and a debian system in general... eg if your chroot was Debian that would be ok |
| 13:37.53 | jelly | s/and/about/ |
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| 13:38.18 | ChrisH | lei: and what php version from which debian release do you use? |
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| 13:38.31 | anew | so this might sound stupid |
| 13:38.35 | anew | but i am ssh into the host computer |
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| 13:38.49 | anew | why do i need xming running on the remote to start the gui? |
| 13:38.58 | anew | cant i start the gui on the host without starting it on the remote ? |
| 13:39.34 | lei | PHP 5.3.3-7+squeeze14 with Suhosin-Patch (cli) (built: Aug 6 2012 14:18:06) |
| 13:39.34 | lei | Copyright (c) 1997-2009 The PHP Group |
| 13:39.34 | lei | Zend Engine v2.3.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2010 Zend Technologies |
| 13:39.35 | lei | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:39.47 | x_or | anew: do you need to do X11 forwarding? use -X switch with ssh. |
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| 13:40.03 | anew | i mean i dont need to see the gui on the remote |
| 13:40.10 | anew | cant i just start it up on the host ? |
| 13:40.13 | anew | what is -X ? |
| 13:40.46 | lupine | it sets up some clever port forwarding and bits |
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| 13:40.58 | lupine | and also initialises the DISPLAY environment variable correctly |
| 13:41.02 | jhutchins_wk | anew: You need an xserver running on the system where you want to view the output. |
| 13:41.11 | anew | but i dont want to see the output |
| 13:41.14 | jhutchins_wk | anew: You do not need it on the system generating the output. |
| 13:41.14 | lupine | you can do it all manually, but -X is a convenient shortcut |
| 13:41.18 | anew | i just want the gui running on the host |
| 13:41.37 | lupine | then you probably want ssh ... ; DISPLAY=:0 x_command_here |
| 13:41.40 | anew | -X i cant find anything in google :S |
| 13:41.47 | jhutchins_wk | anew: You can launch individual GUI programs and have them display, or have a remote login that is a full graphical session. |
| 13:41.49 | anew | tries -x switch ssh |
| 13:42.28 | ChrisH | anew: man ssh and search for -X there |
| 13:42.33 | jhutchins_wk | anew: No, it's -X. Try the ssh man page. for google, try "X11 forwarding" |
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| 13:43.12 | lupine | anew, if you want it to display on the monitor of the machine in front of you, you want ssh -X .. ; x_command_here. If you want it to display on the monitor of the machine you're sshing to, you want ssh ... ; DISPLAY=:0 x_command_here |
| 13:43.20 | anew | i see, i already have this setup in putty to forward x11 |
| 13:43.25 | anew | and i have xming running |
| 13:43.38 | anew | the problem is... i dont want it to display for me |
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| 13:43.44 | anew | because as soon as i close my session, all gui's close |
| 13:43.51 | anew | i just want it to run on the host machine by itself |
| 13:44.19 | anew | hard to explain and i dont fully understand either |
| 13:44.36 | anew | like why can't i start a gui session without viewing it? |
| 13:44.45 | anew | cant a gui session just run on it's own without anyone viewing ? |
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| 13:49.25 | x_or | anew: so you are trying to start an application remotely but have it run on the host? |
| 13:49.31 | anew | yes |
| 13:49.40 | anew | is that possible |
| 13:50.19 | x_or | i think you need to set the DISPLAY variable before running the command . |
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| 13:50.58 | anew | so say for iceweasel |
| 13:51.04 | jhutchins_wk | X forwarading over ssh should just work if enabled from debian to debian. No additional steps should be necessary, connect and launch. |
| 13:51.05 | anew | it would be in tmux with putty x11 already set |
| 13:51.25 | anew | i would well.. |
| 13:51.28 | x_or | something like "DISPLAY=:1 xeyes" |
| 13:51.40 | anew | usually i would write xpra DISPLAY |
| 13:51.41 | anew | hmm |
| 13:51.42 | anew | ok |
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| 13:51.48 | anew | let me try that |
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| 13:52.25 | anew | well problem is i need to have xming running to do that |
| 13:52.33 | anew | the command u just wrote |
| 13:52.49 | x_or | what is xming? |
| 13:52.51 | anew | wait maybe not |
| 13:53.13 | anew | just another x client... i downloaded so many in the last 2 days trying to get this damn thing to work |
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| 13:53.58 | x_or | try setting 1 to 0. that number is the display index you want to run the command on. |
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| 13:55.16 | x_or | you might need to look up examples. i am sitting here with my three month old son typing this on my android phone . |
| 13:55.33 | anew | lmao...teaching them early these days 1 |
| 13:55.34 | hadean | :_D |
| 13:55.36 | anew | ! |
| 13:55.39 | hadean | xD |
| 13:55.42 | hadean | neat |
| 13:56.04 | anew | yeah i'm so lost/tired on this been trying to do it on and off for 2 days |
| 13:56.15 | anew | i can do everything i want if i want to view on the remote |
| 13:56.22 | hadean | hi guys. can i, when using apt-get build-dep, install the whole list except one special package? |
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| 13:56.42 | anew | no problem i have that all set up. but if i want to have persistent x it doesnt work... tried xpra and nx. but nothing |
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| 13:57.56 | x_or | ok. i think i am unclear on what you want to do. you are on your laptop (machine A). you are ssh'ing into machine B. |
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| 13:58.15 | hadean | like, some kind of "get the list, remember the packages, unpick that certain one, and then install the rest"? |
| 13:58.25 | x_or | where do you want xming to display? A or B? |
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| 13:58.50 | anew | i dont understand a or b ? |
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| 13:58.54 | anew | a = ? |
| 13:59.16 | x_or | see prior comment. |
| 13:59.28 | anew | ah missed that |
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| 13:59.42 | anew | ok i am on my laptop (a) and ssh into b |
| 13:59.43 | anew | yes |
| 13:59.56 | anew | so...i have a perl script on machine b |
| 13:59.59 | x_or | if A then use X11 forwarding . -X switch with ssh. |
| 14:00.10 | anew | i ssh into b, start the perl script - which uses firefox |
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| 14:00.45 | anew | now i dont need to see firefox running. but it also never starts unless i have an x client on my laptop |
| 14:01.01 | anew | so i need to ssh into b, start the perl script and have everything basically just run on it's own |
| 14:01.12 | x_or | did you try that switch ? what type of machine is A? |
| 14:01.37 | anew | a is windows 8... x11 forwarding is enabled in putty |
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| 14:02.26 | x_or | not sure if that will work .not sure if w8 has x11 on client side . |
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| 14:02.51 | x_or | on my osx machine i needed to install x11 locally . |
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| 14:03.22 | anew | righth ok, so this is where the 3rd party stuff comes in. for example i downloaded and installed 'xming' |
| 14:03.37 | hadean | or, can i use the "download only" thing for this |
| 14:03.44 | anew | problem partly solved with that... i can run the script and firefox appears on machine a. however.. when i turn off machine A... i lose everything! |
| 14:04.05 | x_or | i recommend installing a Linux machine using virtual box on your windows 8 machine . then ssh from that. |
| 14:04.17 | hadean | <3 vagrant ;) |
| 14:04.40 | babilen | anew: You want to have the program start on the remote host, don't you? |
| 14:05.31 | x_or | of course. when you run an app on the B machine and then the machine turns off, all processes on that machine will die. |
| 14:05.50 | anew | if i run an app on B machine and turn off machine A ... then ? |
| 14:06.04 | hadean | i somehow think using the build-dep cmd, then c&p from the new pkg list doesn't seem like the thing to do ^^ |
| 14:06.05 | anew | ok i have virtual box already installed on machine a actually... |
| 14:06.15 | anew | babilen i want the program to start on the host |
| 14:06.24 | x_or | that app is running on B. it does not get transferred to the ram on B. |
| 14:06.25 | babilen | anew: local host or remote ? |
| 14:06.39 | x_or | ... on A... |
| 14:06.54 | lei | my suhosin.memory_limit (php5.3) is set to 2G and phpinfo() tells me its set to 2G.... no matter what i try i cannot set php_value memory_limit 1492M because it is set to 128M ... if i do php_value memory_limit 1024 it really has 1024M... looks like a compiled in memory limit but i got no clue and web doesnt help either |
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| 14:08.12 | anew | local host babilen |
| 14:08.14 | x_or | why do you want to start this process on B? |
| 14:08.32 | anew | x_or i want to use the resources of B to run the process |
| 14:08.34 | anew | not my laptop |
| 14:08.41 | anew | and... i want to turn off my laptop |
| 14:08.43 | anew | and take a nap |
| 14:08.44 | anew | lol |
| 14:08.49 | anew | not have it on 24/7 like A |
| 14:09.16 | babilen | anew: And the local host is MS Windows isn't it? |
| 14:09.23 | x_or | then why do you expect that if you turn off B those resources will be there? |
| 14:09.42 | jelly | anew: suspend or hibernate the laptop instead. |
| 14:09.43 | anew | turn off B? no i never turn off B |
| 14:09.50 | anew | my laptop i turn off |
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| 14:10.03 | anew | meh... |
| 14:10.03 | x_or | so it sounds like you want to start from A and run on B. |
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| 14:10.11 | anew | not really the solution i was looking for to hibernate my laptop |
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| 14:10.26 | anew | A (laptop) B (24/7 machine) |
| 14:10.32 | x_or | but watch it from A. |
| 14:10.34 | anew | I want to start from A and run on B then turn off A yes |
| 14:10.53 | x_or | use vnc after starting using the display variable . |
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| 14:11.50 | anew | realvnc ? |
| 14:12.04 | x_or | you cannot start on b via x11 and display on a and then shut down network on a and keep that process alive . |
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| 14:12.20 | x_or | yes thatvwould work . |
| 14:12.22 | anew | yes that's exactly what i want to do |
| 14:12.24 | anew | is that impossible ? |
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| 14:12.34 | Iridos | had... |
| 14:13.25 | x_or | one sec diaper change. |
| 14:13.38 | anew | ok so now that we totally understand each other... what should i do? stay on win8, use virtualbox, download vncviewer? |
| 14:13.46 | anew | i tried so many i'm so bad at picking the right thing to use |
| 14:13.52 | anew | k |
| 14:14.21 | babilen | Install and run Debian on both! :) |
| 14:14.44 | anew | i can do that i have debian on virtualbox right now |
| 14:14.56 | anew | what would i need to put on the vbox to get it both working? |
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| 14:15.11 | babilen | anew: What is "both" referring to exactly? |
| 14:15.37 | anew | i have A (win8 with virtualbox) and B (debian wheezy) |
| 14:15.50 | anew | A is my laptop that i need to shut off |
| 14:15.57 | anew | B is what will be running the program |
| 14:16.33 | x_or | no just setup vnc on B. use a viewer on a to watch the process running on b. when your viewer disconnects nothing dies on B othervthanvthe vnc connection |
| 14:16.40 | Iridos | anew, if you don't need to see the programs running, probably would still be the simplest to install a vnc server |
| 14:17.08 | anew | yeah that sounds like exactly what i need to do... is there a vnc you recomend i download? |
| 14:17.14 | x_or | yes vnc server on b |
| 14:17.19 | anew | awesome |
| 14:17.36 | x_or | vnc client / viewer on a. run everything on b. |
| 14:17.39 | babilen | dpkg: tell anew -about tightvnc |
| 14:17.46 | babilen | dpkg: tell anew -about relvnc |
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| 14:18.04 | x_or | baby is screaming. that's all for me today.bye |
| 14:18.05 | babilen | that should have been realvnc (/msg dpkg realvnc) |
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| 14:18.26 | anew | http://www.realvnc.com/ |
| 14:18.34 | anew | is this what you guys are talking about to download ? |
| 14:18.38 | anew | thanks a lot x_or |
| 14:18.47 | babilen | anew: I am referring to install tightvnc or realvnc |
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| 14:19.17 | anew | oh i just saw the PM's now |
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| 14:19.45 | babilen | (apt-get install tightvncviewer (remote) apt-get install xtightvncviewer (local)) |
| 14:19.45 | anew | which is less resource heavy? tightvnc ? |
| 14:19.55 | anew | ah perfecto |
| 14:20.21 | anew | so machine b (server) is apt-get install xtightvncviewr |
| 14:20.23 | anew | ? |
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| 14:21.01 | anew | ok |
| 14:21.04 | anew | man u guys rock |
| 14:21.16 | anew | i failed so hard at this |
| 14:21.41 | babilen | anew: No, you install xtightvncviewer on the local host -- I assume that you run Debian and have no idea what to install/use on Windows (ask ##windows about that) |
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| 14:22.11 | anew | bah lol just installed xtightvnc on the wrong machine then lol |
| 14:22.12 | anew | ok thanks |
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| 14:26.27 | babilen | anew: Well, you run a VNC server on the remote host. My understanding is that that machine is actually running Debian so we can help you with that. TightVNC is one option, but there are others. (e.g. vino for a simple one that integrates well with Gnome) -- No idea what to use on the local host (as that one is running MS Windows - ask in ##windows for recommendations) |
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| 14:28.09 | anew | looks like i can download tighvnc viewer for windows no ? |
| 14:28.21 | anew | or is that two totally seperate things ? |
| 14:28.43 | deepy | anew: any reason you're not using X forwarding? |
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| 14:29.19 | anew | yes i want to be able to turn off my laptop |
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| 14:30.06 | babilen | anew: No idea what, how and why you would use windows. (it is also not supported in here, if you can get tightvnc for that, well goo, if not ..) |
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| 14:31.08 | anew | ok cool well i'm on a better track than before |
| 14:31.12 | anew | let me see what i can do |
| 14:31.40 | babilen | anew: btw, why do you use Firefox and not the packaged Iceweasel? |
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| 14:32.31 | anew | the perl module i use has all the naming for firefox and i couldnt even download some modules because it was looking for ff and not iceweasel |
| 14:32.40 | anew | so instead of renaming a bunch of stuff inside the packages myself |
| 14:32.44 | anew | which would have been a pin |
| 14:32.49 | anew | *pain, i just installed ff |
| 14:32.52 | anew | which wasnt hard to do |
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| 14:35.07 | babilen | would have created an iceweasel launcher if something calls firefox, but meh … |
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| 14:40.57 | jhutchins_wk | Actually, I usually launch iceweasel by calling firefox. |
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| 14:41.42 | babilen | jhutchins_wk: right, iceweasel ships that already |
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| 14:43.21 | rootking | Why should I choose Debian over Arch Linux? |
| 14:43.39 | babilen | dpkg: tell rootking -about why debian |
| 14:43.40 | Towzzer | support, packages |
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| 14:44.38 | babilen | rootking: Debian is a wonderful distribution with stellar support (ML, IRC, consultants, ...) that provides great packages. Try it and see if you like it. Choose whatever /you/ prefer, there simply isn't a single metric with which to measure "best" |
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| 14:45.01 | Towzzer | debian is the best, if you don't choose it you're objectively wrong |
| 14:45.09 | babilen | heh |
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| 14:45.13 | Towzzer | if you choose redhat you are a corporate shill |
| 14:45.15 | EagleRock | :-) |
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| 14:47.42 | babilen | dpkg: tell Proximus -about install wheezy |
| 14:47.56 | babilen | Proximus: have fun, let us know if you need further details or information |
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| 14:48.42 | Proximus | Oh I will :-) |
| 14:48.46 | Proximus | Thank you all. |
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| 14:51.13 | timmmaaaayyy | i got a laptop yesterday....installed debian squeeze for the first time.... what is this god awful desktop manager thing? is this unity? |
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| 14:51.38 | Towzzer | I thought squeeze uses gnome 2 |
| 14:51.44 | babilen | It does, yes |
| 14:52.43 | babilen | timmmaaaayyy: I would also recommend to use/install wheezy as opposed to squeeze. Wheezy is the currently frozen testing branch of Debian and will be released as stable soon. It is perfectly fit IMHO to use in everyday use on your personal box and will make a couple of things easier. (e.g. you get newer software) |
| 14:52.46 | timmmaaaayyy | top left just has "activities"....nothing actually useful |
| 14:53.10 | babilen | timmmaaaayyy: See <install wheezy> or <wheezy release notes> for information on how to install or upgrade to it respectively |
| 14:53.20 | timmmaaaayyy | babilen: thats why i tried it out....but this gnome 2 thing is disgusting |
| 14:53.27 | timmmaaaayyy | where's the menus? where's the programs? |
| 14:53.36 | babilen | timmmaaaayyy: What does "cat /etc/debian_version" give you? |
| 14:53.39 | timmmaaaayyy | it looks like this is going the way of ubuntu |
| 14:53.41 | EagleRock | timmmaaaayyy: sounds like wheezy to me |
| 14:53.46 | babilen | yeah, it does |
| 14:53.50 | Pei | timmmaaaayyy: did you not install video drivers? |
| 14:53.55 | timmmaaaayyy | well hold on.....terminal now required multiple clicks to find |
| 14:54.00 | babilen | Well, it sounds like Gnome3 not necessarily wheezy. |
| 14:54.16 | Towzzer | he's not using gnome 2 |
| 14:54.20 | Towzzer | sounds like osx |
| 14:54.22 | EagleRock | babilen: true, but on a default install that would be the most probable |
| 14:54.30 | Pei | hrm |
| 14:54.30 | timmmaaaayyy | debian_version is 7.0 |
| 14:54.32 | babilen | timmmaaaayyy: We don't need a running commentary - There are also several /other/ desktop environment in Debian and you can install whichever one you prefer. |
| 14:55.24 | timmmaaaayyy | how can you tell what version of gnome it's running? |
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| 14:55.31 | Towzzer | I bet you he installed squeeze then upgraded or something |
| 14:55.36 | babilen | timmmaaaayyy: Yeah, that is wheezy not squeeze and you probably installed Gnome 3. If you don't like it you might like XFCE4, LXDE or a window manager such as fluxbox, awesome, openbox, i3, ... more. See <install xfce4> <install lxde> <install kde4. for further information. |
| 14:55.44 | Towzzer | !mint |
| 14:55.45 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
| 14:56.14 | babilen | Towzzer: What does that have to do with anything? |
| 14:56.22 | Towzzer | oh, it would be a good choice for him |
| 14:56.24 | timmmaaaayyy | this is what i used: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 14:57.26 | babilen | Towzzer: No, it wouldn't necessarily and we should help with Debian and not promote MATE (which has not been packaged in Debian for /very good/ technical reasons. I don't deem it fit for usage due to the same reasons) |
| 14:57.33 | Proximus | Imagine a 3d printer that makes a masterpiece pizza |
| 14:57.40 | Towzzer | I think debian is great for servers |
| 14:57.47 | Towzzer | but so many problems here seem to be graphics |
| 14:57.59 | babilen | timmmaaaayyy: Yeah, you installed wheezy and installed Gnome 3. Install another desktop environment if you don't like it. |
| 14:57.59 | Towzzer | sorry though :D |
| 14:58.15 | morphic | http://www.space.com/17933-nasa-television-webcasts-live-space-tv.html |
| 14:58.23 | morphic | ops |
| 14:58.31 | babilen | Towzzer: People simple don't know how to configure their systems and there is /a lot/ of horrible information on the web. (and yeah, on the wiki as well) |
| 14:58.35 | babilen | morphic: ECHAN? |
| 14:58.37 | timmmaaaayyy | Towzzer: i'm not going to mint. i want debian. however, i usually used stable and it has the desktop environment that i'm used to (whatever it is). this totally threw me for a look becuase i feel like this is going the way of ubuntu (unity), which i thought everyone HATED. |
| 14:58.38 | EagleRock | at least he is on Wheezy and won't need to do an upgrade once it's released |
| 14:58.59 | EagleRock | timmmaaaayyy: install another DE then |
| 14:59.17 | timmmaaaayyy | what do you all use? |
| 14:59.23 | babilen | Towzzer: Ok, to make it clear: Please help with Debian in here and try to keep it to that. |
| 14:59.31 | timmmaaaayyy | i'm used to whatever DE "stable" has |
| 14:59.40 | Towzzer | you can get it here - http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ |
| 15:00.02 | EagleRock | the default DE for squeeze was gnome 2 |
| 15:00.03 | babilen | timmmaaaayyy: I use awesomewm, but that doesn't mean that you'll like it. I guess that you would be happiest with XFCE4 (cf. "/msg dpkg install xfce4") but google those names I mentioned earlier and take a look. |
| 15:00.18 | EagleRock | I personally use gnome 2, gnome 3, kde, or ldxe, depending on the machine |
| 15:00.29 | timmmaaaayyy | ok i'll look into them all. danke schön! |
| 15:00.33 | babilen | timmmaaaayyy: yeah, Debian still installs Gnome by default and this gets you Gnome 3 these days. |
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| 15:01.04 | timmmaaaayyy | to switch between the active one......do i apt-get remove gnome3 and apt-get install gnome2 or something? |
| 15:01.21 | timmmaaaayyy | n/m....i guess google can guide the way |
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| 15:01.46 | babilen | timmmaaaayyy: btw, a lot of people like Gnome 3 (in particular after installing a number of extensions from extensions.gnome.org), so actually exploring that system might be an option too. But you don't have to use anything and can decide for yourself. Just try what is available and then make an informed choice. |
| 15:01.50 | EagleRock | timmmaaaayyy: there is no gnome2 in wheezy, but explore other DE options |
| 15:02.15 | babilen | timmmaaaayyy: And you don't have to uninstall anything in order to explore other options. |
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| 15:02.48 | timmmaaaayyy | well i can't stand how they've hidden applications and system prefs and stuff. what the heck is this "activities" thing anyways? it just seems so counter productive |
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| 15:02.58 | Pei | lol |
| 15:03.39 | babilen | timmmaaaayyy: Trust me, I don't want to have this discussion /again/ -- Take a look at the alternatives if you don't like Gnome 3 and move on. It is as easy as that and does not merit any more of our time. |
| 15:03.51 | eni23 | hello at all. got a question. i have an thinkpad t530 notebook. deactivated nvidia optimus in bios still not possible to connect secound monitor or something? |
| 15:04.04 | babilen | yay, optimus horror |
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| 15:04.21 | eni23 | i never had problems with nvidia/ati and heard intel is easy under linux so why its noit working? |
| 15:04.38 | babilen | eni23: Does that one actually have an hardware mux? Are you using the Intel card now? Does "xrandr -q" list the other display too? |
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| 15:05.31 | babilen | eni23: Well, provide some information, but optimus is ... well ... not optimal on Linux. This is primarily because the X server does not support multiple GPUs like that and it would require extensive changes for it to support that setup seamlessly. |
| 15:06.09 | babilen | eni23: There are projects such as bumblebee (and a bazillion forks) that provide some hacks to get it working, but I am not sure about their level of support and last time I checked they also weren't packages. |
| 15:07.11 | babilen | eni23: Apart from that: My understanding was that if your hardware actually allows it that you can just disable the NVIDIA-writes-to-intel-card-memory-card and just use Intel. Paste your Xorg.0.log and the output of "xrandr -q" to http://paste.debian.net if you need further help with that. |
| 15:07.47 | babilen | eni23: Did you check thinkwiki about this already? |
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| 15:09.24 | eni23 | babilen: xrandorg gives only an error about queriing size |
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| 15:10.26 | babilen | eni23: well, "an error" is something we can work with. yes ;) |
| 15:10.42 | babilen | eni23: And the command is "xrandr -q" not "xrandorg" |
| 15:10.43 | eni23 | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/239111/ |
| 15:11.12 | eni23 | babilen: xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default |
| 15:11.23 | babilen | eni23: Is that squeeze with a bdo kernel? |
| 15:11.27 | eni23 | yes |
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| 15:12.06 | babilen | judd: v xserver-xorg-core |
| 15:12.07 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-core on i386 -- lenny: 2:1.4.2-10.lenny4; squeeze: 2:1.7.7-14; squeeze-backports: 2:1.10.4-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2:1.12.4-4; sid: 2:1.12.4-5 |
| 15:12.58 | babilen | eni23: You need a newer Xorg version for the GPU in the T530, simply upgrading the kernel is /not enough/ in this case. |
| 15:13.45 | babilen | eni23: You can install a newer Xorg from backports as well (cf. "/msg dpkg bdo xorg"), but that is a relatively untested configuration. I would recommend to simply upgrade to wheezy on that hardware (or install it in the first place) |
| 15:13.56 | babilen | eni23: Would you mind pasting the output of "lspci -n" to http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 15:13.56 | eni23 | babilen: is there a way easy way to do it on squeeze? |
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| 15:14.21 | babilen | eni23: Reread what I said as I addressed that question already. |
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| 15:16.11 | Ixium | shit, this is the end of my idling-spree :P |
| 15:16.15 | babilen | eni23: yeah, you need a newer xserver-xorg-video-intel for that one. |
| 15:16.17 | Towzzer | hi |
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| 15:17.13 | eni23 | babilen: thanks alot for your help. i trying to install it from backports. |
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| 15:17.56 | babilen | eni23: As I said: I would recommend to simply upgrade to wheezy, but it seems that is not an option for you. (why?) |
| 15:18.01 | foo357 | What runlevel would a "normal" be running on? Desktop? Server? |
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| 15:18.16 | foo357 | a "normal" linux system* |
| 15:18.24 | babilen | dpkg: tell foo357 -about runlevel |
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| 15:19.49 | foo357 | babilen: Thank you. Hm, I suppose level 2 is a (very) conventional level to "end up in" by default? |
| 15:19.50 | eni23 | babilen: sorry had toi reboot |
| 15:20.02 | eni23 | babilen: i cannot use wheezy |
| 15:20.07 | babilen | eni23: That's okay. It happens to the best of us :) |
| 15:20.13 | babilen | eni23: Why is that? |
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| 15:20.33 | eni23 | eni23: its a company laptop they only allow stable distros |
| 15:20.55 | Ixium | foo357: i always use 3 or 5 :) |
| 15:20.56 | babilen | eni23: So you rather install whatever from whatever ... but okay. I won't argue the point. |
| 15:21.22 | eni23 | babilen: now i have installed xserver from backports but still the same |
| 15:21.27 | babilen | eni23: And rest assured: Wheezy will be released soon and you can then use it officially. |
| 15:21.35 | foo357 | Ixium: but would that have to be specified manually? |
| 15:22.01 | foo357 | Ixium: configured* |
| 15:22.02 | eni23 | babilen: i know. we all know that here but ceo dont care |
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| 15:22.06 | Ixium | no, runlevel 2 is mostly unused |
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| 15:22.20 | Ixium | runlevel 3 is multiuser |
| 15:22.40 | babilen | eni23: The Xorg in bdo might also be too old. Would you mind joining me in #intel-gfx in which you can ask about support for your GPU ? |
| 15:22.43 | foo357 | Ixium: 2 is multiuser too |
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| 15:24.15 | Ixium | on a regular linux-system you have: 0 halt - 1 single text - 2 unused - 3 multi text - 4 unused - 5 multiuser X - 6 reboot |
| 15:24.24 | babilen | !runlevel |
| 15:24.25 | dpkg | 0 is halt, 1 is single user, 2, 3, 4, 5 are multiuser, 6 is reboot. By default 2, 3, 4 and 5 are identical (there are no graphic/non-graphic runlevels), but you can configure this if you wish. Read /usr/share/doc/sysvinit/*; read /etc/init.d/README; man update-rc.d; if that doesn't make sense, consider installing <rcconf> instead. See also http://debian-administration.org/articles/212, <startup>, <file-rc>, <single-user mode>. |
| 15:24.30 | babilen | Ixium: ^ |
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| 15:24.51 | Ixium | my Arch-systems says something different :P |
| 15:24.55 | babilen | Ixium: This is #debian not ##linux ;) |
| 15:25.00 | abrotman | Ixium: this isn't RH |
| 15:25.01 | babilen | (or #arch) |
| 15:25.18 | abrotman | and this is by default, you can change it to anything you like |
| 15:25.19 | Ixium | babilen: sorry |
| 15:25.20 | Ixium | :P |
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| 15:25.48 | Ixium | debian also doesn't have an inittab to set the default runlevel |
| 15:25.48 | babilen | Ixium: No problem, but please make sure you actually provide information relevant to Debian in here :) |
| 15:26.02 | abrotman | yes, it does |
| 15:26.09 | abrotman | Ixium: have you used Debian? |
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| 15:26.35 | Ixium | Linux cipher 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Sun Sep 23 10:07:46 UTC 2012 x86_64 |
| 15:26.35 | Ixium | The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software; |
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| 15:26.37 | Ixium | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:26.53 | EagleRock | Debian doesn't use inittab? |
| 15:26.54 | abrotman | have you actually used it? or do you just spout random nonsense? |
| 15:27.02 | babilen | Ixium: Well, then take a look at /etc/inittab |
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| 15:27.03 | abrotman | EagleRock: it does .. Ixium doesnt' know what's going on |
| 15:27.37 | EagleRock | abrotman: I was gonna say the several dozen installs I've done over the years need some adjustment :-) |
| 15:28.17 | Ixium | abrotman: i mean, i can't start X or pass X by using inittab. |
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| 15:28.25 | Ixium | the way i set it in arch |
| 15:28.38 | abrotman | Ixium: you can if you know what you're doing .. but i think we've covered that topic already |
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| 15:29.37 | EagleRock | Ixium: that's a difference between the default runlevels, which you can customize |
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| 15:32.09 | dizzylizzy | What are my options for installing and configuring a bootloader |
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| 15:32.36 | Nik05 | use the grub rescue disk |
| 15:32.47 | Ixium | EagleRock: debian is conservative when it comes to runlevels lol :P |
| 15:33.08 | babilen | dpkg: tell dizzylizzy -about fixmbr |
| 15:33.25 | mtn | dizzylizzy: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repairrestorereinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd/#.UQMYFiFDdE4 |
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| 15:49.04 | ihsw | hi, how do i install gcc-4.6, searching for gcc in aptitude shows only gcc-4.4 and gcc-4.3 |
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| 15:49.24 | asdjaputra | Compile from source |
| 15:49.59 | ihsw | asdjaputra: oh ok, wasn't sure if there was any other way |
| 15:50.26 | somiaj | ,check-backport gcc-4.6 |
| 15:50.28 | judd | Backporting package gcc-4.6 in sid→squeeze/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: binutils (>= 2.21.1) | binutils-multiarch (>= 2.21.1), libmpfr-dev (>= 3.0.0-9~), libgmp-dev (>= 2:5.0.1~);Build-Depends-Indep: doxygen (>= 1.7.2). |
| 15:50.49 | babilen | IOW: no! |
| 15:50.53 | ihsw | right on |
| 15:51.18 | somiaj | ihsw: the gcc-4.6 source package in sid doesn't seem to be able to to be nicely backported. Not sure if you will run into issues on squeeze from the upstream tarball as well |
| 15:51.49 | ihsw | somiaj: good to know, i had a hunch there was a specific reason, thanks |
| 15:52.20 | dizzylizzy | geez, trust debian to work |
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| 15:52.54 | jelly | TRUSTNO1 |
| 15:54.21 | schmodd | can someone recommend me a way to securely delete ram and swap? |
| 15:54.49 | babilen | schmodd: hammer? |
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| 15:55.49 | schmodd | so that i can still use them ... |
| 15:55.56 | babilen | schmodd: If that is a bit too invasive and you would actually like to keep the hardware intact: Take a look at secure-delete |
| 15:56.04 | babilen | ,i secure-delete |
| 15:56.05 | judd | Package secure-delete (utils, optional) in squeeze/i386: tools to wipe files, free disk space, swap and memory. Version: 3.1-5; Size: 66.2k; Installed: 172k |
| 15:56.17 | schmodd | ty |
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| 15:56.23 | babilen | np (sorry, couldn't resist) |
| 15:56.27 | ChrisH | delete RAM, why? |
| 15:56.32 | schmodd | ;) |
| 15:56.57 | schmodd | security |
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| 15:57.23 | schmodd | read about possibilites to read from ram - even after poweroff |
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| 15:57.51 | ChrisH | schmodd: But you need to put the system into the freeze |
| 15:57.59 | dizzylizzy | if you have people in your life who will try to read from your ram after poweroff, you have bigger issues than doing that to your ram |
| 15:58.06 | jelly | if you're that paranoid, asking random people on irc for help might not be the greatest idea |
| 15:58.09 | EagleRock | dizzylizzy: lol |
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| 15:58.42 | schmodd | well i dont have anything to hide |
| 15:58.43 | ChrisH | As long as someone has physical access to any computer system, there might/will be option to get the data from it. |
| 15:58.48 | schmodd | im just preparing for future ... |
| 15:58.55 | jelly | however... there are kernel patches that do zeroing pages after use |
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| 16:00.36 | schmodd | anyway have a nice day |
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| 16:02.17 | eni23 | babilen: thanks again for your help |
| 16:02.31 | babilen | eni23: Did you figure it out? |
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| 16:03.30 | eni23 | babilen: i activated "discrete graphics" then it tried to load noveau-driver. didnt work well so i installed nvidia-propetary-driver and this one works like a charm |
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| 16:03.49 | Guest36605 | hi /dpkg |
| 16:03.56 | babilen | eni23: ack (did you follow "/msg dpkg nvidia dkms" ?) |
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| 16:04.20 | jelly | schm... eh. |
| 16:04.23 | eni23 | babilen: followed the instructions on debian.org-wiki |
| 16:04.40 | babilen | *shudder* |
| 16:04.53 | babilen | eni23: Which instructions? there are at least 200 there and all of them are bad :) |
| 16:04.59 | babilen | (in one way or another) |
| 16:05.28 | DebianUsr | hey, is this the channel for tcl help cause my system has it but is not locating it correctly. or should i be using another channel? |
| 16:05.30 | babilen | but I have to leave now for a little while ... so I leave *you* in the hands of other capable helpers |
| 16:05.39 | babilen | TCL? |
| 16:05.51 | EagleRock | that wiki is really out of date |
| 16:05.53 | DebianUsr | for eggdrop babilen |
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| 16:06.16 | EagleRock | it still mentions a bug in nvidia-xconfig and highly discourages its use |
| 16:06.19 | eni23 | babilen: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDriversNvidiaWay |
| 16:06.33 | babilen | DebianUsr: Well, it is either a Debian issue which means that you ask in here or a TCL issue which means that you ask in #tcl |
| 16:06.50 | abrotman | EagleRock: might it still apply to squeeze though ? |
| 16:07.11 | babilen | eni23: Yeah, I know the horror that is that page very well. (We will replace it with something sane and supported soon) -- Which of the hundred methods on that page did you follow? |
| 16:07.12 | EagleRock | abrotman: I thought that bug was cleared up in squeeze, but you might be right |
| 16:07.13 | eni23 | babilen: but normally im installing those drivers via nvidia-installer.. but the company dont like it |
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| 16:07.26 | babilen | eni23: It is also a bad idea to do that |
| 16:07.32 | babilen | (at least on Debian) |
| 16:07.39 | babilen | dpkg: tell eni23 -about nvidia dkms |
| 16:07.54 | babilen | eni23: That's the recommended and modern way to do it -- everything else is suboptimal. |
| 16:08.11 | EagleRock | dkms is definitely the easiest and cleanest way to go about it |
| 16:08.17 | EagleRock | my method of choice |
| 16:08.18 | eni23 | babilen: yes i know but this way does not work with squeeze-bpo |
| 16:08.23 | abrotman | stabs radius |
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| 16:09.28 | jelly | abrotman: buy radiator, it works! |
| 16:09.32 | jelly | hides |
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| 16:10.37 | abrotman | heh |
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| 16:11.12 | eni23 | babilen: but anyway thanks for your help im seeing you alot in #debian and you allways help thats really cool |
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| 16:11.50 | babilen | eni23: That way works with the drivers from backports as well. (the commands need to be adjusted, but the /general/ idea is still the same) |
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| 16:12.29 | babilen | eni23: I would have happily helped you with the install, but meh. Just make sure that you use the DKMS packages and a minimal configuration file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ |
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| 16:13.52 | zastern | Is there a way to tell, on debian, if a process is hitting up against its max open file handles, or something like that? |
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| 16:26.42 | lordcyfer | Hello everybody i have a preseed / debian installer / late_command problems |
| 16:26.43 | lordcyfer | preseed/late_command string |
| 16:27.11 | lordcyfer | Here is the details http://paste.ubuntu.com/5576665/ |
| 16:29.47 | Iridos | zastern, perhaps lsof? is there something better on any other linux distro? |
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| 16:30.21 | zastern | hmm |
| 16:30.24 | zastern | not sure |
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| 16:31.42 | owen1 | I need a power efficient and quite server for my office. someone told me about http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16859107052. any other suggestions? |
| 16:32.01 | owen1 | (of course i'll use debian on it) |
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| 16:34.47 | Iridos | zastern, or can just look at /proc/<pid>/fd |
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| 16:36.13 | zastern | Iridos: that's exactly wahti needed |
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| 16:38.22 | Iridos | zastern, lsof -p<pid> does the same a bit neater |
| 16:38.37 | jelly | tho /proc/*/fd does not show the current limit |
| 16:38.54 | zastern | jelly: what does show the limit? |
| 16:38.56 | Iridos | no... you got to get that independently |
| 16:39.24 | DebianUsr | NEWBIE question: Should I use ProFTPD as root or nonroot user? |
| 16:39.25 | zastern | how do I actually get that limit? my understanding is that /etc/secuirty/limits.conf only affects PAM-y things. Not services |
| 16:39.33 | DebianUsr | use = run |
| 16:39.34 | jelly | zastern: good question, no idea -- I'd have to look up how to getrlimit() for a different process |
| 16:39.35 | zastern | DebianUsr: what do you think :) |
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| 16:40.38 | jelly | zastern: try looking in /proc/PID/ for something relevant, or man 5 proc |
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| 16:40.55 | DebianUsr | zastern, i dont know lol. im asking because when i tried to configure/run eggdrop as nonroot. it gave me crazy amount of errors cause it has no permission rights |
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| 16:44.50 | DebianUsr | zastern. i think i found it |
| 16:44.53 | DebianUsr | "here is nothing wrong with your config. Since you are running proftpd as a non-root user, those log messages are normal; proftpd is designed to normally run as the root user," |
| 16:45.09 | Iridos | DebianUsr, does the proftpd-basic package offer you that choice? |
| 16:45.12 | DebianUsr | source https://forums.proftpd.org/smf/index.php?topic=7058.0 |
| 16:45.41 | DebianUsr | iridos, yes it did grab proftpd-basic, they said proftpd's name changed to -basic |
| 16:45.55 | Iridos | what? |
| 16:46.41 | DebianUsr | might be getting ahead of myself, sorry. aptitude suggested i grab -basic. |
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| 16:47.47 | Iridos | when I install that, there's no such choice. the package just installs. if I look in /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf, it says # Set the user and group that the server normally runs at. User proftpd |
| 16:48.00 | Iridos | Also... Did you read /usr/share/doc/proftpd-basic/README.Debian.gz as a start? |
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| 16:48.36 | DebianUsr | iridos i havent gotten to that point yet. still trying to find the .conf file myself |
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| 16:50.31 | DebianUsr | ok there is no proftpd.conf in /etc/ as this site suggested |
| 16:50.43 | Iridos | I don't understand why you ask that question. The package does it in a certain way... and that's probably the right way. |
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| 16:50.56 | DebianUsr | wait iridos |
| 16:50.59 | DebianUsr | i found a nice guide |
| 16:51.00 | DebianUsr | http://www.linuxhelp.net/guides/proftpd/ |
| 16:51.04 | Iridos | DebianUsr, are you reading stuff I wrote? |
| 16:51.10 | DebianUsr | yes |
| 16:51.11 | DebianUsr | lol |
| 16:51.15 | Iridos | really? |
| 16:51.23 | Iridos | <Iridos> when I install that, there's no such choice. the package just installs. if I look in /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf, it says # Set the user and group that the server normally runs at. User proftpd |
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| 16:51.51 | nickn | Does apt-cacher-ng also cache the apt-get update stuff? |
| 16:52.00 | Iridos | so when I mention that in debian, you find that it's /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf ... you search for /etc/proftpd.conf after some obscure site? |
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| 16:52.47 | DebianUsr | i am use to people yelling at me to google stuff so that is what i do |
| 16:52.52 | DebianUsr | calm down, sorry my friend |
| 16:52.57 | Iridos | DebianUsr, you can see the contents of a package after you installed it with dpkg -L (i.e. dpkg -L proftpd-basic) |
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| 16:53.15 | DebianUsr | thank you |
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| 16:54.31 | Iridos | policy and FHS decree configuration goes in /etc, so you can also find it by just going ls /etc/proft[Tab] (and the tab-key will autocomplete to whatever starts with proft... if it doesnt, there's more than one file, just hit tab a 2nd time) |
| 16:55.14 | DebianUsr | alright thanks for that. |
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| 17:00.54 | Iridos | DebianUsr, ha. I can always find a reason for yelling at you ;) No worries. |
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| 17:04.03 | DebianUsr | :) Iridos |
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| 17:04.49 | Quest | how to invert colors (black goes white and white versa) in krita? |
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| 17:05.10 | Jumper_Thunder | okay, i'm compiling my own kernel with the tux on startup enabled but i still cant see it.. suggestions? |
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| 17:19.03 | doublehp | !stable |
| 17:19.06 | dpkg | [stable] The status of a Debian release when no packages will be added, new versions introduced and changes will only fix security issues and critical bugs. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is Squeeze (6.0); ask me about <releases>. Security bugs are fixed in stable by backporting the fix to the stable version (ask me about <security backports>). http://wiki.debian.org/DebianStable |
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| 17:21.44 | florin1996 | hi |
| 17:21.51 | florin1996 | i have a problem |
| 17:22.04 | florin1996 | i have debian i 386 single boot |
| 17:22.15 | florin1996 | i have installed chrome |
| 17:22.25 | florin1996 | and i have problems with flash player |
| 17:22.38 | EagleRock | florin1996: chrome or chromium? |
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| 17:22.40 | Jumper_Thunder | florin1996: what kind of problems? |
| 17:22.45 | doublehp | i have installed squeese, which is said to be latest stable, Iceweasel 3.5, which is latest stable, and Facebook complains I am outdated, and can not even install flash ... why ? |
| 17:22.51 | florin1996 | youtube works, but sometimes when i click to open a video |
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| 17:23.07 | florin1996 | "flashplugin.so crashed" |
| 17:23.17 | zykotick9 | doublehp: i'd suggest checking mozilla.debian.net to get a more up-to-date iceweasel |
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| 17:23.31 | florin1996 | some website not works |
| 17:23.51 | florin1996 | webistes wich have flash |
| 17:24.06 | doublehp | zykotick9: what's the use of Debian distribution if I start installing upstream stuff manually ? |
| 17:24.07 | florin1996 | chromium, not chrome |
| 17:24.23 | ksuhku | Jumper_Thunder, is grub set to gfx mode? here's something on the subject https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#gfxmode |
| 17:24.25 | florin1996 | any ideas? |
| 17:24.42 | florin1996 | flash is installed, says software center |
| 17:24.50 | florin1996 | but i have problems with it |
| 17:24.51 | zykotick9 | doublehp: m.d.n is run by the mozilla maintainers? or just live with 3.5... choice is yours. |
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| 17:24.58 | EagleRock | doublehp: you can also opt to upgrade to wheezy if you like |
| 17:25.09 | EagleRock | wheezy is getting pretty darn stable in its frozen state |
| 17:25.16 | florin1996 | when i click to a video, the video is not opening automatically |
| 17:25.18 | EagleRock | for debian standards, that is |
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| 17:25.22 | florin1996 | needs to click start |
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| 17:25.38 | florin1996 | and sometimes" dlashplugin.so crashed" |
| 17:25.48 | ksuhku | flash is rubbish |
| 17:25.48 | florin1996 | ideas? |
| 17:25.53 | florin1996 | please.... |
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| 17:26.16 | EagleRock | florin1996: which versino of debian? |
| 17:26.16 | florin1996 | what i can do? |
| 17:26.22 | florin1996 | debian 6.0 |
| 17:26.25 | florin1996 | i386 |
| 17:26.39 | mtn | florin1996: how did you install flash? |
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| 17:28.06 | florin1996 | i not install flash |
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| 17:28.15 | florin1996 | is not integrated in chromium? |
| 17:28.23 | mtn | florin1996: then install it |
| 17:28.33 | mtn | florin1996: use synaptic |
| 17:28.51 | florin1996 | synaptic? |
| 17:29.04 | florin1996 | not software center? |
| 17:29.05 | mtn | florin1996: yes, synaptic. look in menu |
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| 17:29.20 | kodak | ciaolist |
| 17:29.37 | florin1996 | after search i found "flashrom" |
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| 17:29.51 | mtn | florin1996: try harder. flashplugin |
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| 17:30.22 | zykotick9 | florin1996: if you don't have the "contrib" repo enabled, you aren't going to find flash... |
| 17:30.27 | florin1996 | browser plugin |
| 17:30.34 | florin1996 | flash isn't ar list |
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| 17:30.39 | EagleRock | zykotick9: and non-free, right? |
| 17:30.54 | florin1996 | browser-plugin-gnash |
| 17:30.54 | zykotick9 | EagleRock: just contrib required for flash ;) |
| 17:31.05 | EagleRock | zykotick9: ah, nice |
| 17:31.20 | mtn | florin1996: add contrib and non-free to you sources. |
| 17:31.30 | florin1996 | ??? |
| 17:31.33 | florin1996 | sources? |
| 17:31.36 | florin1996 | :( |
| 17:31.39 | florin1996 | i am newbie |
| 17:31.41 | mtn | florin1996: look in synaptic menu |
| 17:32.42 | mtn | florin1996: settings/repositories |
| 17:32.45 | babilen | florin1996: You really should read http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/apt.html |
| 17:32.54 | babilen | florin1996: (and the rest of that book) |
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| 17:33.24 | mtn | florin1996: I second the motion |
| 17:33.30 | florin1996 | sources doesn't exist at synaptic menu |
| 17:33.30 | florin1996 | not at me |
| 17:33.49 | mtn | florin1996: settings/repositories |
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| 17:35.04 | florin1996 | where i found "sources" ? |
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| 17:35.23 | babilen | florin1996: Read the chapter I linked earlier. |
| 17:35.26 | mtn | florin1996: REPOSITORIES!! |
| 17:35.42 | mtn | is giving up on this one |
| 17:35.46 | babilen | (or at least read what people are saying in here) |
| 17:35.49 | confusid | Trying to setup pure-ftpd-mysql and it does not seem to use the users in the database. I can use one of the unix users and pass to connect with ftp. But if I try to connect using a pureftp user it does not connect. Any ideas on where I should look for errors? |
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| 17:38.15 | florin1996 | ok, i opened repository |
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| 17:39.35 | florin1996 | debian software, third party software... |
| 17:39.43 | florin1996 | where i add non-free? |
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| 17:41.09 | zykotick9 | florin1996: fyi it's contrib you need to add for adobe flash (but if you're installing that you might as well add non-free as well!) |
| 17:41.10 | abyxcos | Where does system.map come from? |
| 17:41.45 | rubberneck | I want to lab out a debian cluster with a glusterfs shared storage. Anyone know what is available to emulate an iscsi target? |
| 17:41.49 | Sevet | !tell florin1996 about non-free sources |
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| 17:43.43 | florin1996 | how i open the sources for add? |
| 17:43.48 | florin1996 | i found an article |
| 17:43.52 | florin1996 | how to add |
| 17:44.02 | florin1996 | but says how to add, not how to open |
| 17:44.07 | florin1996 | :p |
| 17:44.11 | EagleRock | !enter |
| 17:44.12 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
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| 17:44.30 | abyxcos | Nevermind, System.map is in the root of the source tree after the build. |
| 17:45.04 | EagleRock | florin1996: under software sources, click third-party software, click each source there, click edit, and add "contrib nonfree" in the components field |
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| 17:46.02 | zykotick9 | EagleRock: i think it's "non-free" isn't it? |
| 17:46.22 | EagleRock | zykotick9: yes, sorry, that was a typo |
| 17:47.58 | florin1996 | i opened soyrces.list |
| 17:48.06 | florin1996 | but i can't write... |
| 17:48.09 | florin1996 | :( |
| 17:48.20 | EagleRock | florin1996: open eitehr logged in as root, or with sudo |
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| 17:50.38 | _martin | hi, i installed a dpkg package and got an error while processing. is the package now installed or not? http://paste.debian.net/239150/ ? |
| 17:51.22 | EagleRock | _martin: no, there are dependency issues |
| 17:51.29 | _martin | arg ok |
| 17:51.45 | EagleRock | _martin: why are you installing a deb and not using the repository? |
| 17:52.01 | florin1996 | logged as root |
| 17:52.03 | _martin | because its borken |
| 17:52.05 | florin1996 | i can't write |
| 17:52.16 | _martin | broken^^ |
| 17:52.39 | EagleRock | florin1996: what text editor? |
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| 17:53.15 | EagleRock | _martin: you can use aptitude -f install to try to fix the depenencies |
| 17:53.31 | florin1996 | gedit |
| 17:53.43 | _martin | i cant use apt-get install -f because its removing an apache package which will break apache |
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| 17:54.28 | EagleRock | _martin: aptitude should give you multiple options |
| 17:54.44 | samgraf | florin1996: Open Accessories, Root Terminal. then "nano /etc/apt/sources.list" |
| 17:54.57 | _martin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:55.35 | EagleRock | _martin: that's odd...what version of debian are you running? |
| 17:55.45 | _martin | sarge/lenny |
| 17:55.52 | _martin | with some debian packages from lenny |
| 17:56.08 | EagleRock | well, that'd explain it... |
| 17:57.33 | EagleRock | _martin: can you remove the .deb you installed and try an apt-get -f to see what further dependency issues you have? |
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| 17:58.41 | cardiel | Is it possible to use suhosin patch from experimental on testing? |
| 17:59.29 | _martin | http://paste.debian.net/239153/ EagleRock |
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| 17:59.53 | florin1996 | it works |
| 17:59.56 | florin1996 | thanks |
| 17:59.59 | _martin | i found an addon to isntall aptitude |
| 18:00.01 | _martin | i try it |
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| 18:00.09 | florin1996 | what is this "non-free"? |
| 18:00.23 | EagleRock | !tell florin1996 about non-free |
| 18:01.04 | florin1996 | thanks |
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| 18:02.42 | EagleRock | _martin: I see a lot of packages not being upgraded...did you hold back a bunch? |
| 18:02.53 | _martin | maybe netgear |
| 18:02.57 | EagleRock | you can also try apt-get dist-upgrade to see what it plans to do there |
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| 18:03.25 | _martin | it will break a lot of things which are shipped out by netgear |
| 18:03.29 | _martin | like the webinterface |
| 18:03.36 | _martin | for the nas |
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| 18:06.20 | florin1996 | not wotks... |
| 18:06.29 | florin1996 | what i need to do after add that lines? |
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| 18:07.50 | w00tc0d3 | hi hi |
| 18:08.03 | florin1996 | i need to update pakages? |
| 18:08.09 | w00tc0d3 | i did use /etc/network/interface.tail to add soemthing to /etc/network/interfaces |
| 18:08.11 | florin1996 | flash plugin isn't at synaptic |
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| 18:08.24 | w00tc0d3 | but, how to remove it? |
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| 18:08.38 | EagleRock | florin1996: in root console do "aptitude update" first |
| 18:08.45 | EagleRock | florin1996: then restart synaptic if necessary |
| 18:08.49 | florin1996 | ok |
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| 18:09.39 | w00tc0d3 | how can I manually change /etc/network/interfaces in Wheezy? |
| 18:09.54 | JiYu | somehow a debian 6 (wheezy) is missing a libssp.so.0 and I cant find it anywhere... any recommendations? |
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| 18:10.14 | zykotick9 | JiYu: debian 6 is squeeze, not wheezy... |
| 18:10.32 | JiYu | oh shit yeah I mean zykotick9 |
| 18:10.46 | dutchfish | w00tc0d3, man interfaces? |
| 18:11.13 | JiYu | aparrently it should be in gcc somewhere, but no.. |
| 18:11.18 | florin1996 | Err http://http.us.debian.org squeeze/updates/non-free Sources |
| 18:11.18 | florin1996 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:11.33 | florin1996 | damn! |
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| 18:12.03 | EagleRock | florin1996: it should be "squeeze/updates main contrib non-free" |
| 18:12.07 | EagleRock | no slashes |
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| 18:12.59 | w00tc0d3 | dutchfish: thx |
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| 18:13.03 | w00tc0d3 | damn |
| 18:13.06 | dutchfish | yw |
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| 18:13.29 | w00tc0d3 | if I setup a VPN from my PC to my VPS, I can access other IP addresses, but can't use domain anmes? o_O |
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| 18:14.12 | dutchfish | w00tc0d3, man hosts? |
| 18:14.41 | florin1996 | nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 18:14.49 | w00tc0d3 | dutchfish: not going to help me; it seems it can't find a DNS server |
| 18:14.57 | florin1996 | Err http://http.us.debian.org squeeze/updates/main Sources |
| 18:14.57 | florin1996 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:15.02 | w00tc0d3 | dutchfish: while /etc/resolv.conf is clearly 8.8.8.8 |
| 18:15.34 | dutchfish | w00tc0d3, maybe your provider wants you to use there DNS server .... |
| 18:15.43 | samgraf | florin1996, http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main non-free contrib |
| 18:15.47 | dutchfish | (just a wild gues) |
| 18:15.49 | EagleRock | florin1996: ...do me a favor. Paste your entire sources.list file to paste.debian.net |
| 18:15.56 | w00tc0d3 | dutchfish: i live in the netherlands, like you probably do :P Ziggo |
| 18:16.26 | dutchfish | w00tc0d3, then use there DNS server, it works fast and quiet well |
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| 18:17.26 | dutchfish | w00tc0d3, or your routers dns service if it has |
| 18:17.34 | florin1996 | # deb http://ftp.ro.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free |
| 18:17.34 | florin1996 | deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free |
| 18:17.34 | florin1996 | deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free |
| 18:17.34 | florin1996 | deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free |
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| 18:19.29 | streulma | hello, I have a new project for Mac customers, TimeMachine in the cloud |
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| 18:20.30 | EagleRock | !tell florin1996 about paste |
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| 18:21.11 | dutchfish | Nik05, you have to use the , behind her name, she is quiet picky about that |
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| 18:22.36 | eikke | is there a way to mark dpkg-reconfigure of a package to be 'successful' (even though it thinks it isn't)? |
| 18:22.39 | florin1996 | i deleted contrib non-free from all |
| 18:22.50 | florin1996 | i addea only at volatile |
| 18:23.02 | florin1996 | in sources.list its ok |
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| 18:23.08 | EagleRock | florin1996: can you paste yoru file to paste.debian.net please? |
| 18:23.12 | florin1996 | is sources.list.save do not changed |
| 18:23.24 | EagleRock | florin1996: I want to see the file so I can let you knwo what to change it to |
| 18:23.24 | florin1996 | in |
| 18:23.36 | florin1996 | but its different |
| 18:23.50 | florin1996 | at sources.list is a code |
| 18:24.00 | florin1996 | at sources.list.save is another code |
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| 18:24.13 | florin1996 | wich of them? |
| 18:24.18 | EagleRock | sources.list |
| 18:25.22 | florin1996 | http://paste.debian.net/239157/ |
| 18:25.28 | florin1996 | that's it |
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| 18:25.47 | florin1996 | at sources.list.save all the lines has contrib non-free |
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| 18:27.43 | EagleRock | florin1996: edit the file exactly as shown, paying attention to what are spaces, slashes and dashes: http://paste.debian.net/239159/ |
| 18:27.57 | EagleRock | then save and do an "aptitude update" |
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| 18:31.47 | RoyOnWheels | unborn 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) |
| 18:32.09 | RoyOnWheels | was off in bios |
| 18:32.22 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, hello :) i told you that you should check the bios ;) |
| 18:32.55 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, im glad i did sorted your problem heh nice to giving feedback actually :) cheers |
| 18:32.57 | RoyOnWheels | iwlist wlan0 scan does nothing |
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| 18:33.28 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, so no wifi on you? |
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| 18:33.59 | RoyOnWheels | don't think so |
| 18:34.00 | yvw | unborn: do you think its a good idea to have LTE advanced modems on laptop and desktop motherboards in the future? |
| 18:35.03 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, well more less we know what you need heh |
| 18:35.06 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k |
| 18:35.15 | unborn | how to is there too |
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| 18:36.54 | unborn | yvw, well i never used modem on laptop and hardly on pc |
| 18:36.58 | tharkun | What scripts are runned when a user logs out of an X session? |
| 18:36.59 | florin1996 | Err http://http.us.debian.org squeeze/updates/main Sources |
| 18:36.59 | florin1996 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:37.06 | florin1996 | i gave paste your code... |
| 18:37.09 | florin1996 | have |
| 18:37.53 | unborn | yvw, for me possibly not.. even if you do in 'teren' h@.. fun i think it not necessary to have them - why? |
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| 18:39.24 | yvw | unborn: Probably , all laptop manufacturers would have LTE modems, like the Gobi service from Qualcomm a few years back .This would probably increase the type of broadband services in the next decade. |
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| 18:40.52 | unborn | yvw, i dont think so.. my laptop already have no modem on it |
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| 18:41.27 | RoyOnWheels | unborn lo no wireless extensions. |
| 18:41.27 | RoyOnWheels | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:41.27 | RoyOnWheels | eth0 no wireless extensions. |
| 18:41.27 | RoyOnWheels | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:41.47 | RoyOnWheels | oops |
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| 18:41.51 | Ristovski | RoyOnWheels: use paste.debian.net |
| 18:42.07 | RoyOnWheels | kk |
| 18:42.30 | unborn | yvw, i would prefer to have slot for simcart instead of modems |
| 18:42.41 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, reboot? |
| 18:42.44 | RoyOnWheels | unborn aptitude purge madwifi-tools |
| 18:42.50 | RoyOnWheels | ? |
| 18:42.53 | unborn | if you did install driver |
| 18:43.09 | jhambo | I'm running a server with Debian Squeeze. Just ran "aptitude update; aptitude safe-upgrade" and now my system is completely unbootable! After the bios screen pops up I just get a flashing cursor! Any suggestions how I can get my system working again?? |
| 18:43.15 | RoyOnWheels | my kernel .32 |
| 18:43.53 | dawud_ | jhambo: use a rescue system live cd |
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| 18:44.05 | unborn | jhambo, do you see any text before cursor screen? |
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| 18:44.40 | jhambo | unborn: the first time it got to "welcome to grub" and nothing else. Now it's not even getting there... |
| 18:44.44 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, just follow the page ive gave you |
| 18:44.57 | jhambo | I don't understand how just updating could make my system unbootable! |
| 18:45.05 | EagleRock | florin1996: I see what happened. http://paste.debian.net/239164/ the change is on line 7 |
| 18:45.13 | jhambo | Especially since I'm running all stock packages |
| 18:45.36 | unborn | jham, sometimes it hangs out on dhcp thingy.. it happen to me last month too.. all you have to do is wait from 3-10 minutes then it will boot up normally |
| 18:45.46 | yvw | unborn: most phone SOCs have an onchip lte modem now. So , probably , all boards would have , on board modem . Although a sim card is good too. If you look carefull, all computer manufacturers like lenovo, apple, ibm, asus, acer etc are forced to make their laptops and their laptop keyboards look like motorola droid phones. |
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| 18:46.07 | jhambo | unborn: it's not even getting to grub. It's not booting at all. |
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| 18:46.40 | azizLIGHTS | i know fstab is for static mounts, but what do we use for mounting things automatically. i would like usb flash drives to mount automatically and be mounted as writeable shares on samba server |
| 18:47.05 | unborn | yvw, did not seen motorola droid keyboard in my life :) sorry but moto was rubbish in past |
| 18:47.21 | florin1996 | EagleRock |
| 18:47.24 | florin1996 | what change? |
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| 18:47.29 | florin1996 | is identically |
| 18:47.31 | unborn | jhambo, did you done cold system halt? :) |
| 18:47.34 | yvw | unborn: droid is a retro phone for mass market consumers who want a computer in their hand. |
| 18:47.46 | jhambo | unborn: no of course not |
| 18:47.47 | unborn | pressing button and hold it for few seconds.. did you done this? |
| 18:48.08 | EagleRock | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free |
| 18:48.08 | jhambo | Never had such a terrible problem with debian before... |
| 18:48.10 | EagleRock | make that line 7 |
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| 18:48.35 | unborn | jhambo, all depend on custom server setup.. heh |
| 18:48.49 | tsccof | can anyone recommend a login manager? I don't even want to see it, just want to autologin into my user |
| 18:48.52 | jhambo | unborn: all stock packages. Nothing special. |
| 18:49.11 | unborn | jhambo, how did you rebooted server when it was hang out for the 1st time? |
| 18:49.19 | azizLIGHTS | what is used to mount usb flash drives automatically when inserted? |
| 18:49.36 | jhambo | unborn: cold was only way. |
| 18:49.38 | tsccof | azizLIGHTS: in the past, hal was used. nowadays, udisks or udisks2 |
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| 18:50.09 | azizLIGHTS | tsccof: ok... i read online its autofs or usbmount or something... now im more confused |
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| 18:51.24 | tsccof | azizLIGHTS: since unix-like systems are simply an aggregation of various layers, and these layers can be added/removed, any layer that provides this kind of operation can be used |
| 18:51.34 | unborn | jhambo, well you should wait few minutes.. its always good to wait 5-10 minutes to see if system could resolve it self.. i think you will need to reinstall.. i hope so you have separate partitions for / and /homes |
| 18:51.47 | jhambo | unborn: I waited 5 hours |
| 18:52.04 | jhambo | unborn: seperate partitions and raid |
| 18:52.11 | tsccof | azizLIGHTS: I have never heard of usbmount or autofs, but they may provide this funcionality.. historically, commonly hal/udisks/udisks2 are used, hal has been deprecated a while ago though |
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| 18:52.33 | jhambo | gotta run for the moment |
| 18:53.03 | tsccof | azizLIGHTS: indeed autofs provides this functionality as well |
| 18:53.24 | azizLIGHTS | tsccof: well, of the ones youre familiar with, which is less configuration heavy |
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| 18:53.52 | tsccof | azizLIGHTS: I don't use any... I suppose an entry in /etc/fstab could do the trick |
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| 18:53.59 | tsccof | hang on a sec |
| 18:54.09 | unborn | jhambo, raid? then you should have working copy of the system on another hdd |
| 18:54.10 | unborn | heh |
| 18:54.21 | unborn | well 5 hours is a lot |
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| 18:54.51 | unborn | - reinstall possible best option heh i am afraid |
| 18:55.13 | florin1996 | it works |
| 18:55.16 | florin1996 | thnak you |
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| 18:57.12 | dawud_ | azizLIGHTS, tsccof : recognition of plugged/unplegged devices is done by udev. usbmount, autofs et al operate on already known devices, or react to their appereance |
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| 18:58.05 | tsccof | dawud_: sure, udev creates the proper device nodes, but as you said, a layer is needed for automounting it |
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| 18:59.12 | samgraf | jhambo: Are you getting through POST normally? |
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| 19:00.12 | unborn | sorry but i have to say i love debian and this channel is just heaven.. thank you guys :) |
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| 19:00.25 | tsccof | azizLIGHTS: just checked, it looks like you can't do it purely with fstab alone, since it is only read at boot time, or unless something else reads it later on, but the kernel doesn't check it constantly |
| 19:00.39 | azizLIGHTS | tsccof: yeah, i like to think of fstab as static mount |
| 19:01.12 | tsccof | azizLIGHTS: in your position, I would use autofs or usbmount |
| 19:01.26 | azizLIGHTS | tsccof: cool, thanks :) |
| 19:02.46 | RoyOnWheels | unborn apparently i'm to here http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
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| 19:03.28 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k |
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| 19:03.36 | unborn | this was link ive gave u |
| 19:03.36 | RoyOnWheels | kde network manager let me add wifi, don't see connection |
| 19:04.04 | RoyOnWheels | unborn yeah step 4 goes to link i sent |
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| 19:05.13 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, true but remember after driver install you should reboot the machine to be able perform changes and you will be able to see if the driver was installed heh |
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| 19:05.22 | maxh2 | I had a question. When trying to open pretty much anything in places i get "no application is registered as handling this file" I have tried open with but i dont see anything called "open folder" as ive seen suggested on forums, im running wheezy |
| 19:05.48 | unborn | means after reboot you should see signal in your arena |
| 19:05.51 | unborn | re area |
| 19:05.54 | RoyOnWheels | unborn rebooted and iwconfig broke |
| 19:06.00 | unborn | heh |
| 19:06.06 | dexta | evening |
| 19:06.09 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, what laptop is that |
| 19:06.11 | unborn | ? |
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| 19:06.29 | RoyOnWheels | asus eepc 701 |
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| 19:08.58 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, deb 6 or 7? |
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| 19:10.33 | RoyOnWheels | er? squeeze |
| 19:11.32 | RoyOnWheels | unborn maybe i missed "Amend /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and change 'ath0' to 'wlan0'. "? |
| 19:11.49 | RoyOnWheels | how would i |
| 19:11.54 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, maybe |
| 19:12.07 | RoyOnWheels | amend where |
| 19:12.26 | RoyOnWheels | how |
| 19:12.51 | unborn | RoyOnWheels, http://forum.eeeuser.com/index.php?/topic/87459-requesting-detailed-step-by-step-guide-installing-debian-on-eee-701/ |
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| 19:13.17 | unborn | see the rokytnji post |
| 19:13.32 | unborn | heh asus - i dont like them |
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| 19:14.50 | arietis | hi |
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| 19:15.16 | arietis | any idea if there is ejabberd related channel? trying to install it on debian arm |
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| 19:16.07 | arietis | oh, looks like i misread guide |
| 19:16.14 | arietis | problem solved |
| 19:16.16 | arietis | :) |
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| 19:22.12 | Agiofws | Hello |
| 19:22.52 | Agiofws | can anyone tell me if wheezy has problems or errors with mounting a 16GB sd card ? with a FAT file system ? |
| 19:23.25 | dawud_ | RoyOnWheels: type <esc> :q! |
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| 19:24.24 | tsccof | Agiofws: it most certainly should not |
| 19:24.45 | abyxcos | http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/kernel/dists/trunk/linux/debian/config/config?view=log -- This is just creating an unbootable 3.8.0-rc7 kernel for me. |
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| 19:25.49 | abyxcos | I'm not sure what's wrong with it, but it just doesn't boot :P |
| 19:26.05 | Agiofws | tsccof, can you think of anything i should check because it mount a 8GB card easily |
| 19:26.07 | abyxcos | Using the liquorix config, I'm able to get a bootable kernel though. |
| 19:26.23 | maxxe | we do not forgive, we do not forget. expect us. |
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| 19:30.01 | abyxcos | I'm open to debugging suggestions, but I don't get any output beyond grub's echoes. |
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| 19:41.23 | RoyOnWheels | unborn could i follow http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-connect-to-a-wpa-wifi-using-command-lines-on-debian |
| 19:42.08 | DebianUsr | why cant you follow it RoyOnWheels |
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| 19:42.20 | DebianUsr | that looks correct on terms of connecting wpa wifi |
| 19:42.39 | RoyOnWheels | ok good |
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| 19:43.12 | RoyOnWheels | debhelper looks like easier instructions |
| 19:43.20 | babilen | RoyOnWheels: There is also http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line and /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz |
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| 19:43.57 | opr | how do i use grep to look in the contents of a file for a specific string ? |
| 19:44.10 | babilen | RoyOnWheels: The instructions you mentioned are not wrong, but simply miss out the step of integrating wpasupplicant into the system. |
| 19:44.46 | babilen | RoyOnWheels: It is a bit like having to call dhclient manually to get an IP address while you could just configure the interface in /etc/network/interfaces in such a way that it is done automatically |
| 19:45.56 | Nik05 | opr man grep |
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| 19:47.39 | RoyOnWheels | babilen do i type the # |
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| 19:47.54 | babilen | RoyOnWheels: Which # ? |
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| 19:48.18 | RoyOnWheels | http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line my wifi |
| 19:48.20 | babilen | RoyOnWheels: # is commonly used as comment character, but I have no idea which # you refer to |
| 19:48.43 | RoyOnWheels | auto does nothing |
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| 19:48.59 | babilen | RoyOnWheels: No, the # shows that these commands have to be run as root (as opposed to the $ that would be shown for your user) |
| 19:49.00 | RoyOnWheels | auto wlan0 |
| 19:49.29 | babilen | RoyOnWheels: Yes, it does something. The meaning of "auto wlan0" is discussed in "man 5 interfaces" and essentially means "bring up wlan0 during boot" |
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| 19:50.34 | RoyOnWheels | babilen so "edit /etc/network/interfaces." mean modify a file? |
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| 19:50.56 | babilen | RoyOnWheels: Yes, it asks you to edit the file /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 19:51.30 | babilen | RoyOnWheels: I think the meaning is pretty clear - Would it helped if it had been phrased differently? How? |
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| 19:52.59 | RoyOnWheels | babilen well windows user here, edit is fairly vague. mave vi /etc |
| 19:53.09 | RoyOnWheels | maybe |
| 19:54.09 | babilen | RoyOnWheels: It essentially means "Use whatever editor your are happy with to edit the file /etc/network/interfaces" |
| 19:54.44 | regexks_ | i prefer nano |
| 19:55.15 | nirizr | first time im trying multiarch... i have a amd64 machine and while trying to install python2.7:i386 i get an error stating the package depends on mime-support:i386 which has no installation candidate. im using wheezy RC1. how can i get 32bit python2.7 to work? thx |
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| 19:56.02 | RoyOnWheels | ok, using putty to vi, can't edit file any |
| 19:56.12 | RoyOnWheels | its open |
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| 19:56.28 | regexks_ | vi is special in the sense that certain keys let you do certain things |
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| 19:56.48 | regexks_ | nano is a straightforward editor like youre used to |
| 19:57.32 | samgraf | I second the vote for nano. |
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| 19:58.27 | DebianUsr | i third nano |
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| 19:59.03 | regexks_ | nano will even color your syntax if youre programming |
| 19:59.11 | awc737 | lulz... how to UNDO rm -rf |
| 19:59.21 | dawud_ | awc737: restore from backup |
| 19:59.25 | awc737 | ctrl+z? recycle bin? |
| 19:59.30 | regexks_ | check the recycle bin :^) |
| 19:59.36 | awc737 | lol |
| 19:59.37 | regexks_ | jk its gone |
| 19:59.45 | awc737 | forevers |
| 20:00.15 | RoyOnWheels | is wireless-essid [ESSID] my ssid? |
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| 20:00.50 | babilen | RoyOnWheels: yes |
| 20:01.23 | babilen | RoyOnWheels: Well, no -- you have to replace [ESSID] with your network's name. It is only [ESSID] if it is actually the name of your network. |
| 20:01.35 | RoyOnWheels | right |
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| 20:02.59 | RoyOnWheels | why is it wireless-mode on next line? |
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| 20:03.16 | RoyOnWheels | mode is psk? |
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| 20:04.00 | babilen | RoyOnWheels: Because you have to specify the wireless mode as well. And maybe the psk -- *Please* read the referenced documentation. (In particular /usr/share/doc/wpa_supplicant/README.Debian.gz and /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/README.Debian |
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| 20:04.07 | RoyOnWheels | or do i use wpa-ssid wpa-psk |
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| 20:04.42 | DammitJim | wget -t3 allows one to retry 3 times, right? |
| 20:04.45 | DammitJim | are there any exceptions? |
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| 20:05.32 | babilen | RoyOnWheels: yes, you do |
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| 20:05.52 | babilen | RoyOnWheels: (if appropriate, I have no idea what you want and what kind of network you are connecting to) |
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| 20:06.07 | azizLIGHTS | i want wheezy to provide movie files to other computers on my WiFi network (without any file copying. just simple click and play), what should i implement to do this |
| 20:06.23 | RoyOnWheels | babilen local personal router |
| 20:06.38 | RoyOnWheels | wpa2 |
| 20:06.59 | Towzzer | nfs |
| 20:07.06 | babilen | RoyOnWheels: Yes, then you need to follow the documenation beneath WPA-PSK and WPA2-PSK if that wasn't obvious. |
| 20:07.23 | Towzzer | can't he just share it with nfs, mounted drives don't copy files before opening them |
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| 20:08.23 | azizLIGHTS | Towzzer: what does that mean |
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| 20:09.40 | Towzzer | you just want to access your media on other computers right? |
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| 20:10.49 | azizLIGHTS | Towzzer: yup |
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| 20:11.08 | azizLIGHTS | Towzzer: movies, music, pictures |
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| 20:11.19 | Towzzer | use nfs to just share the directory |
| 20:11.24 | azizLIGHTS | Towzzer: maybe once in a while ill transfer a file ffrom the linux to the windows |
| 20:11.26 | RoyOnWheels | ok, got DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12 |
| 20:11.54 | RoyOnWheels | no dhcpoffers received |
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| 20:13.30 | RoyOnWheels | babilen thoughts? |
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| 20:14.23 | RoyOnWheels | wrong subnet mask |
| 20:14.32 | RoyOnWheels | by 255 |
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| 20:18.55 | youlysses_mbl | How does one skip a gpg check via aptitude or apt-get? |
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| 20:19.23 | jhutchins_wk | RoyOnWheels: Is that a question or merely an exposition? |
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| 20:22.47 | RoyOnWheels | No working leases in persistent database - sleeping. after trying to use 255.255.255.255 |
| 20:23.00 | RoyOnWheels | jhambo question |
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| 20:25.57 | archetech | why is a fresh instal get 300 files on a apt-get update? |
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| 20:26.09 | archetech | how do I fix it locales? |
| 20:28.31 | Towzzer | did you have internet during install? |
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| 20:29.37 | archetech | yes |
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| 20:36.02 | abrotman | your installer was a bit out of date .. no big deal |
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| 20:36.49 | streulma | I love Debian on servers :) |
| 20:37.40 | archetech | ya that and centos they are rocks |
| 20:38.28 | streulma | https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bze1HsKezS8uSzJrVjl0QnYxY28/edit?usp=sharing |
| 20:38.32 | Towzzer | debian is so awesome |
| 20:38.33 | streulma | see my setup :) |
| 20:38.37 | Towzzer | when I had to use centos I got so upset |
| 20:38.42 | Towzzer | especially the network script files : ( |
| 20:39.32 | mmnicolas | streulma: you know you can use 'main contrib non-free' on the same line |
| 20:39.49 | streulma | yes it's a setup from Amedee on twitter |
| 20:39.54 | streulma | that I modifed |
| 20:39.58 | streulma | modified |
| 20:40.14 | mmnicolas | http.debian.net! |
| 20:40.25 | RoyOnWheels | ifup wlan = No working leases in persistent database - sleeping. after trying to use 255.255.255.255. but my subnet ends .0? do i change something |
| 20:40.59 | streulma | bam and I have a webserver in minutes :) |
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| 20:55.07 | k4tfish | Hi, i cant find any gpt tools (expected gptsync) in squeeze's std repo |
| 20:55.35 | k4tfish | how can i deal with gpts on squeeze? |
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| 21:02.49 | regexks_ | k4tfish: try apt-get update |
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| 21:03.07 | regexks_ | then apt-cache search gpt |
| 21:03.44 | regexks_ | http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/gptsync |
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| 21:03.53 | regexks_ | looks like its def part of standard repos |
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| 21:05.57 | k4tfish | regexks_, that package provides tools for syncing gpt/mbr only |
| 21:06.36 | k4tfish | i need the tools to modify gpt'd partitions |
| 21:06.58 | regexks_ | apt-cache search gpt will find anything related to gpt |
| 21:07.05 | regexks_ | you can select and install whichever packages you like |
| 21:08.25 | k4tfish | i know |
| 21:08.31 | k4tfish | how apt works ;) |
| 21:08.53 | k4tfish | and i found gfdisk meanwhile |
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| 21:10.10 | acu | !paste |
| 21:10.10 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 21:36.28 | arietis | any ideas why i get this message when trying to setup ejabberd? "Can't register user user@example.org at node 'ejabberd@host': not_allowed" |
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| 21:37.02 | arietis | i'm using debian for arm architecture |
| 21:37.18 | arietis | ejabberd is installed via apt-get |
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| 21:49.25 | jhambo | Hey folks. I'm running Squeeze. I did "aptitude update; aptitude safe-upgrade" earlier today and when I rebooted my sytem hangs after displaying "Welcome to grub". Sometimes it doesn't even get to this point and just displays a blinking cursor. Other times it gets past grub and then just starts displaying errors like "ata1:00 revalidation fail (errno = -5)" over and over. What could have possibly caused this and how can I fix it?? |
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| 21:50.33 | denstark | jhambo: can you run memtest? |
| 21:50.50 | denstark | might be worthwhile... i had an intermittent problem like that on my laptop and it was the dimms lots =/ |
| 21:50.57 | denstark | i could also be way off! :P |
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| 21:54.40 | jhambo | denstark. System was running absolutely fine until "aptitude safe-upgrade" |
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| 22:06.38 | jhambo | Okay this is really screwy. I get the same errors "ata1:00 revalidation fail (errno = -5)" even when trying to do a live debian boot from usb! |
| 22:07.28 | Towzzer | maybe something is wrong with your disk |
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| 22:09.13 | jhambo | Towzzer: 2 month old drives. Not a single problem so far. Using software RAID. Problem occured immediately after "aptitude safe-upgrade" (which included a kernel update). Numerous reboots before this update gave no problems. Seems to me extrememly unlikely to be a spontaneous problem with the disks... |
| 22:09.29 | Towzzer | true |
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| 22:12.20 | JyZyXEL | why doesn't dpkg-reconfigure grub2 spawn the ncruses thingy that happens when you do apt-get install grub2 |
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| 22:13.20 | Ristovski | JyZyXEL: maybe because you need to configure it again? |
| 22:13.49 | JyZyXEL | the wizard failed during initial installation because i had forgotten to mount /dev |
| 22:14.32 | JyZyXEL | how do i make it try again |
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| 22:18.01 | JyZyXEL | is there some command i could use to get some essentials into a deboostrapped environment? |
| 22:18.32 | JyZyXEL | this thing was missing stuff like grub and initramfs-tools |
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| 22:19.00 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: it's probably grub2-common, not grub2. |
| 22:19.09 | JyZyXEL | it wasn't that either |
| 22:19.10 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: and you can install anything you want into debootstrap |
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| 22:19.33 | JyZyXEL | it doesn't install much anythng by default |
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| 22:19.54 | JyZyXEL | its not even enough to boot with |
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| 22:20.04 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: right; it only installes precisely what is required to install more packages. |
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| 22:20.27 | JyZyXEL | what should i use to install the basic stuff to make the machine bootable |
| 22:20.30 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: people use debootstrap to do much more than make bootable partitions. In fact, its primary usage is to make chroots. |
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| 22:21.16 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: and it's grub-pc. |
| 22:21.21 | JyZyXEL | it was also missing console-setup and locales |
| 22:21.49 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: it'll be missing lots of things. You probably want everything which is priority standard and above. |
| 22:21.59 | JyZyXEL | yeah exactly something like that |
| 22:22.12 | JyZyXEL | i want everything that you would expect to have on a standard linux machine |
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| 22:22.40 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: that's basically what priority standard and things above are. |
| 22:22.55 | JyZyXEL | is there some command i can use to get such things? |
| 22:23.07 | jhambo | Ahg debian has been so reliable until now. This update completely bricked my system. I can't even live boot it. How can that be |
| 22:23.14 | JyZyXEL | its not grub-pc either |
| 22:23.27 | JyZyXEL | it only asks for kernel command lines |
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| 22:23.34 | JyZyXEL | it doesn't spawn the grub2 installation wizard |
| 22:23.39 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: I'm looking at the configuration file for it, and it sets the command line. |
| 22:23.46 | JyZyXEL | yeah thsts not enough |
| 22:23.50 | JyZyXEL | my /boot/ is still empty |
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| 22:24.02 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: that's what grub-install does. |
| 22:24.29 | JyZyXEL | i think thats just a low level tool to install stage1 |
| 22:24.53 | JyZyXEL | would be nice to have the ncurses debian wrapper for grub2 install |
| 22:24.53 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: no, grub-setup does stage1. |
| 22:25.23 | dondelelcaro | the manpage explains that |
| 22:25.32 | dondelelcaro | the ncurses wrapper is only in the installer |
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| 22:25.44 | dondelelcaro | and it just calls grub-install with varying options |
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| 22:25.49 | JyZyXEL | wait, does deboostrap even install a kernel? |
| 22:25.55 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: no. Why would it? |
| 22:25.58 | JyZyXEL | lol |
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| 22:26.03 | JyZyXEL | well NO WONDER |
| 22:26.22 | JyZyXEL | i kind of assumed it would install everything a standard debian installation would have :D |
| 22:26.34 | wsky | NOPE |
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| 22:26.36 | wsky | :-) |
| 22:26.46 | JyZyXEL | ok i need some command to achieve THAT :p |
| 22:27.38 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: it's called the installer... |
| 22:27.53 | jelly-home | JyZyXEL: you probably want to read the install guide part of installing with debootstrap |
| 22:29.27 | jelly-home | JyZyXEL: I followed this on a new remote machine booted with an ubuntu stick and managed to get the base system up and running http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/i386/apds03.html.en |
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| 22:30.40 | JyZyXEL | tasksel :) |
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| 22:32.01 | JyZyXEL | thats what i was looking for, i just always forget its name |
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| 22:35.57 | djangana | http://pastie.org/6362727 can anyone help me with this please? |
| 22:36.22 | zbychuk | I have PXE serwer on dnsmasqd. I can start Debian (stable) install from this serwer. I would like to have a choice to install Debian "Testing" from this serwer. Which boot parameter I have to add to kernel bootline to do that? |
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| 22:43.59 | zbychuk | I have PXE serwer on dnsmasqd. I can start Debian (stable) install from this serwer. I would like to have a choice to install Debian "Testing" from this serwer. Which boot parameter I have to add to kernel bootline to do that? |
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| 23:06.14 | Nick899 | Hi guys, I messed up doing rm -r /var/www* instead of rm -r /var/www/* under root |
| 23:06.25 | Nick899 | did I delete anything other than /var/www? |
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| 23:08.07 | addaitech | not unless you have something named like /var/www132 |
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| 23:11.12 | Nick899 | thanks addaitech |
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| 23:11.34 | addaitech | other than that your good to go |
| 23:11.53 | Nick899 | it's so easy to fuck things up being root |
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| 23:16.48 | addaitech | that it is |
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| 23:25.24 | raphaelsc | GLIBC started supporting functions like setns from the version 2.14. I'm wondering what I should do in order to upgrade my GLIBC without crashing or corrupting my system. I read that Debian doesn't support it yet. Is it true? |
| 23:25.38 | raphaelsc | doesn't support newer versions* |
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| 23:27.11 | Nik05 | ,versions libc |
| 23:27.12 | judd | No package named 'libc' was found in i386. |
| 23:27.36 | Nik05 | or is it called libc6 or something? |
| 23:27.44 | Nik05 | ,versions libc6 |
| 23:27.45 | judd | Package: libc6 on i386 -- lenny: 2.7-18lenny7; lenny-security: 2.7-18lenny7; squeeze-updates: 2.11.3-3; squeeze: 2.11.3-4; squeeze-proposed-updates: 2.11.3-4; sid: 2.13-38; wheezy: 2.13-38; experimental: 2.17-0experimental2 |
| 23:28.47 | Nik05 | raphaelsc 2.17 is in experimental |
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| 23:28.55 | raphaelsc | how about the 2.14? |
| 23:29.15 | raphaelsc | it seems not to be available.. |
| 23:29.29 | Nik05 | only in experimental |
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| 23:30.15 | Nik05 | raphaelsc are you running wheezy? |
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| 23:30.19 | raphaelsc | Nik05: I'm a new Debian user, can you help me with the process of installing? |
| 23:30.55 | raphaelsc | Nik05: Not sure about these differences. How can I know about that? |
| 23:30.56 | Nik05 | probably better not to do |
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| 23:31.12 | raphaelsc | Nik05: It's really needed though :( |
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| 23:31.54 | Nik05 | on squeeze or wheezy, what are you running? |
| 23:32.18 | raphaelsc | Where can I get this info? |
| 23:32.50 | raphaelsc | I tried through uname but it wasn't possible heh |
| 23:33.16 | KsM | raphaelsc: lsb_release -d |
| 23:33.34 | raphaelsc | Nik05: squeeze |
| 23:33.47 | blubberdiblub | it might be steam. the steam package depends on 2.17 |
| 23:35.21 | jhutchins_wk | So there's a small chance of it making it into wheezy. |
| 23:36.03 | Nik05 | really small :P |
| 23:36.06 | DebianUsr | useradd user123 -p password.here |
| 23:36.09 | DebianUsr | is that right ? |
| 23:36.28 | DebianUsr | nvm i can just man it |
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| 23:36.46 | Nik05 | use adduser |
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| 23:37.10 | DebianUsr | What is the different Nik05? And yes that is correct, ,go me :D |
| 23:37.28 | raphaelsc | Nik05: So I just need to get the respective package and install it right? Will it upgrade automatically or I need to do something else? |
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| 23:38.09 | Nik05 | what? |
| 23:38.17 | wsky | DebianUsr: adduser is a user frindly script for managing user accounts |
| 23:38.38 | raphaelsc | Nik05: For installing 2.17 |
| 23:38.59 | DebianUsr | wsky, ok what is useradd then? |
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| 23:39.10 | Nik05 | well that isnt supported |
| 23:39.11 | wsky | DebianUsr: just provides a nice interface that allows you to do things in a pleasant way |
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| 23:39.42 | wsky | DebianUsr: userad is a binar for more low level user operation |
| 23:39.51 | wsky | useradd * binary* |
| 23:39.53 | DebianUsr | wsky, ok thanks |
| 23:40.09 | wsky | i mean with a more rough ui |
| 23:40.41 | raphaelsc | Nik05: I'll try to install another distr which supports it. Do you know about any one? |
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| 23:41.30 | wsky | DebianUsr: adduser uses useradd and provides more friendly interface for it |
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| 23:41.53 | ispirto | hello, how to install ocfs2 on debian? |
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| 23:45.16 | addaitech | isp: http://realtechtalk.com/Configuring_OCFS2_Clustered_File_System_on_Debian_Based_Linux_including_Ubuntu_and_Kubuntu-109-articles |
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| 23:47.47 | RoyOnWheels | using tightvnc gui is bad. any ideas? https://www.dropbox.com/s/1vaf6lrwufrq4z8/linuxtightvnc.GIF |
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| 23:48.59 | RoyOnWheels | i removed kde and did trinity but ui is same? |
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| 23:49.48 | addaitech | why would you even want to use remote desktop is beyong me |
| 23:49.51 | addaitech | er beyond |
| 23:50.20 | DebianUsr | any mods in this channel here at the moment? |
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| 23:50.26 | vaillor | hi guys |
| 23:50.45 | vaillor | is there a way to delete welcome message when i connect to debian throught shell? |
| 23:50.48 | vaillor | ssh |
| 23:50.57 | DebianUsr | rm /var/mail/<user> |
| 23:51.16 | DebianUsr | i think |
| 23:51.19 | DebianUsr | thats how i did it |
| 23:51.20 | jelly-home | that's not exactly safe |
| 23:51.32 | DebianUsr | now you tell me |
| 23:51.33 | DebianUsr | :D |
| 23:51.34 | vaillor | why? |
| 23:51.48 | KsM | PrintMotd no |
| 23:51.54 | KsM | in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 23:52.09 | vaillor | [00:51:20] <jelly-home> that's not exactly safe <<< are you talking to me? |
| 23:52.12 | KsM | (I think) |
| 23:52.52 | jelly-home | vaillor: there's a race condition wherein you can look at the file, decide there's only your welcome mail in there, then a new mail arrives just as you type in an execute the rm command |
| 23:53.24 | KsM | you could also clear /etc/motd |
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| 23:53.50 | jelly-home | but I don't think you want to delete mail _at all_ |
| 23:54.31 | DebianUsr | oh he means the motd |
| 23:54.40 | jelly-home | maybe motd. maybe issue. Who knows? |
| 23:55.04 | DebianUsr | vaillor try.. sudo nano /etc/motd ..delete the text. ctrl x to save (hit the letter y) |
| 23:55.07 | vaillor | jelly-home, you suggest me to remove the welcome mail? |
| 23:55.07 | jelly-home | maybe issue.net |
| 23:55.26 | jelly-home | vaillor: no. Ignore that. |
| 23:55.37 | DebianUsr | vaillor that was my mistake sorry |
| 23:56.56 | vaillor | the welcome test is not the content of /var/mail/myuser |
| 23:57.05 | vaillor | is the content of /etc/motd |
| 23:57.12 | DebianUsr | vaillor i know SORRY i said |
| 23:57.14 | DebianUsr | vaillor try.. sudo nano /etc/motd ..delete the text. ctrl x to save (hit the letter y) |
| 23:57.18 | DebianUsr | that is what you want |
| 23:57.23 | DebianUsr | i thought you meant the mail |
| 23:57.40 | vaillor | DebianUsr, and if i directly delete the motd file? |
| 23:57.58 | DebianUsr | vaillor; then i dont know, never tried |
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| 23:58.46 | n-iCe | I downloaded songs, I used brasero to burn a cd, tried cd audio and data cd for mp3, both did not work, I can't play my cd on any device, if I insert it back on the laptop, the lap does not even recognize it, any ideas? |
| 23:59.00 | initself | anyone familiar with pk-gtk-module? |
| 23:59.15 | ctmjr | motd=message of the day delete change it do with it what you will |
| 23:59.17 | initself | libpk-gtk-module.so is not on my system |
