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| 00:03.06 | Lachesis | so i guess the first question is - what's the minimum i need to debootstrap a chroot |
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| 00:03.56 | somiaj | you could debootstrap over dial up, just a matter of how long it takes to download the data |
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| 00:06.20 | Lachesis | first hurdle - how do i get wget or curl or something up there? |
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| 00:06.38 | Lachesis | /bin/sh: wget: Input/output error |
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| 00:31.47 | DebianUsr | i dont know how to use vi can someone help me edit the sources.list file. i mean man vi tells me nada just something about vim |
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| 00:32.44 | KsM | DebianUsr: just use nano if you don't know how to use vi |
| 00:32.48 | dvs | DebianUsr: do you know how to use any text editor? |
| 00:33.02 | DebianUsr | i do dvs, ksm, but nano inst installed |
| 00:33.03 | DebianUsr | isnt |
| 00:33.07 | LtL | DebianUsr: are you root yet |
| 00:33.08 | KsM | oh |
| 00:33.16 | DebianUsr | am i root yet? |
| 00:33.39 | KsM | press i |
| 00:33.51 | KsM | then just edit whatever, esc, :wq |
| 00:34.19 | LtL | DebianUsr: vi /etc/apt/sources.list as root, press th~e letter 'i' to enter insert mode, make edits, then hit escape, type :wq hit enter |
| 00:35.23 | DebianUsr | thank you ltl, and you as well ksm |
| 00:35.40 | DebianUsr | installed nano now |
| 00:35.43 | LtL | DebianUsr: welcome, now update |
| 00:35.44 | DebianUsr | lol |
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| 00:39.33 | txomon | will continue waiting for someone that knows how to get h264 video running |
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| 00:44.33 | pfred1 | txomon what is the problem? |
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| 00:48.07 | pfred1 | txomon Playing Star Trek Into Darkness - Teaser.mp4. VIDEO: [H264] 1888x776 24bpp 25.000 fps 8211.3 kbps (1002.4 kbyte/s) |
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| 00:53.04 | dexta | moo |
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| 00:53.16 | ninjasquirrel | wonder what's wrong with me, only distro i seem to be able to get working properly is debian eh |
| 00:53.52 | ninjasquirrel | and it's the only one i actually like.. so simple yet easy.. anyways |
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| 00:54.00 | dvs | examines ninjasquirrel 's head |
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| 00:54.27 | homes | i tried ubuntu but durng an upgrade i lost all my gnome menus :/ |
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| 00:57.42 | ninjasquirrel | yeah, other distros are just annoying at times |
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| 01:00.49 | ozcanesen | hey i want to keep changelog file package's main directory instead of DEBIAN/changelog, is this reducing package quality? |
| 01:01.19 | ozcanesen | can i just delete debian/changelog file? |
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| 02:29.25 | p0ly | hey, what up? i have a question |
| 02:29.39 | p0ly | im using debian 6.0.7 X85_64 |
| 02:29.51 | p0ly | and xfce i think |
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| 02:30.15 | pfred1 | not quite sure about the DE? |
| 02:30.51 | p0ly | i try to write permissions doing other/group/others create delete files |
| 02:31.05 | p0ly | but then it doesnt stick within some of the 2 or 3 deep folders |
| 02:31.33 | p0ly | basically im trying to copy over a network and im getting permission errors |
| 02:31.44 | p0ly | tthen why i try to fix the erorrs, right click properites it doesnt work on all files/folder |
| 02:32.41 | p0ly | maybe i should/can use cli to change permits? |
| 02:32.47 | p0ly | chmod? |
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| 02:35.00 | pfred1 | the CLI would give more known results |
| 02:35.16 | pfred1 | a file manager should work but who knows |
| 02:35.34 | pfred1 | you're not even entirely sure which file manager you are using |
| 02:35.38 | LtL | p0ly: it's user/group/others .. important distinction. :) |
| 02:35.59 | p0ly | LtL, i set all to full permits, but then files arent changed |
| 02:36.50 | LtL | p0ly: what are you using? in my opinion the only 'good' way is using a terminal |
| 02:37.05 | p0ly | wow, i suppose im using gnome, supprisingly dissapoinging :/ |
| 02:37.19 | p0ly | gnome panel 2.30.2? |
| 02:37.44 | LtL | p0ly: i use gnome but i never set permissions with anythintg but a CLI terminal |
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| 02:38.50 | LtL | p0ly: your file manager is probably nautilus, ok for browsing but chmod or chown is best using CLI commands. |
| 02:39.13 | p0ly | okay, il look up both |
| 02:39.26 | LtL | p0ly: they're pretty easy. |
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| 02:39.55 | LtL | p0ly: basic perms, dirs are chmod 755, files 644 |
| 02:40.20 | p0ly | still, need to look it up |
| 02:40.35 | p0ly | correct usage, remembering, etc |
| 02:40.37 | LtL | p0ly: or you can use alpha characters ugo+rw for example |
| 02:41.18 | LtL | p0ly: the former method is known as octals (chmod) |
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| 02:44.03 | p0ly | so can i just do # chown username |
| 02:44.06 | p0ly | for an entire directory? |
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| 02:44.47 | LtL | p0ly: not quite, chown format is easy, example: chown root:root file or dir |
| 02:45.15 | LtL | p0ly: be extremely careful using chown or chmod recursively |
| 02:45.19 | p0ly | yes, okay, so chown works on dirs, so i have to be one up |
| 02:45.37 | LtL | p0ly: chown works on files also |
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| 02:45.54 | p0ly | i need many folders though, all in one folder |
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| 02:46.19 | LtL | p0ly: what do you want to set as what? |
| 02:46.31 | jpinx | p0ly: man chown - it needs to be told to change contents of dirs |
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| 02:47.31 | p0ly | damn i love linux |
| 02:48.11 | wsky | p0ly: linux loves you too. maybe bit too much. |
| 02:48.17 | p0ly | :D |
| 02:48.26 | raouf | wonderful |
| 02:48.30 | p0ly | reminds me to say hello_world |
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| 02:53.13 | p0ly | i think i might have to take a few hoursteps back |
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| 02:58.07 | LtL | p0ly: 4 = read 2 = write 1 = excecute with chmod you just add them up, so 777 is read write execute for user/group/others. btw 777 is not a good setting, nor is 666 |
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| 02:59.42 | LtL | p0ly: and directories must be executable, so 'chmod 700 dir/' would allow only the owner in that dir |
| 03:00.28 | LtL | crawls back into cave |
| 03:00.58 | wsky | closes the hatch |
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| 03:17.51 | p0ly | it seems like i did chmod correctly, (no errors) but i still cant copy it over in windows |
| 03:19.07 | LtL | p0ly: did you mount the windows partition, it may be mounted read-only, in which case you need to mount with the ntfs-3g package |
| 03:19.40 | p0ly | i dont fucking know |
| 03:19.51 | p0ly | wow |
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| 03:20.42 | p0ly | okay, i am using samba, the drive in the linux pc |
| 03:20.53 | p0ly | the from drive |
| 03:20.58 | p0ly | the to drive is in the windows pc |
| 03:21.35 | LtL | p0ly: I don't use samba, sorry ask wsky. he trapped me in my cave! |
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| 03:22.12 | p0ly | i feel like samba doesnt really have that much to do with it..... i feel like i can still figure it out.... |
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| 03:22.40 | wsky | p0ly: what do you want to do to samba? |
| 03:23.11 | wsky | LtL: i'm just waiting for you to ressurect, worked with jesus lol |
| 03:23.21 | LtL | dance dance dance... trick question |
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| 03:24.11 | LtL | luckily my cave has fiber to the nearest internet backbone |
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| 03:26.18 | p0ly | sorry |
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| 03:26.34 | p0ly | i just want to copy some files that seem to be write protected |
| 03:26.42 | p0ly | from linux to windows |
| 03:27.18 | wsky | p0ly: you need to enable writing access on the windows share. on windows. |
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| 03:27.43 | p0ly | to the write-to folder, okay..... |
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| 03:28.30 | wsky | p0ly: or share a linux folder to windows |
| 03:28.36 | wsky | with samba |
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| 03:29.31 | p0ly | unchecked read-only on windows, big folder, 5mins reamaing |
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| 04:05.06 | yvw | Can any help setup dns nameserver settings in debian squeeze? I tried to edit resolv.conf , network manager as well but the computer seems to take default dns servers which it gets from dhcp. |
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| 04:09.31 | yvw | Can any help setup dns nameserver settings in debian squeeze? I tried to edit resolv.conf , network manager as well but the computer seems to take default dns servers which it gets from dhcp. |
| 04:10.06 | pmo | restart networking? |
| 04:10.23 | yvw | pmo: Yes, I did restart networking |
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| 04:11.15 | pmo | it should work then |
| 04:11.25 | yvw | pmo: I have to reboot to check this |
| 04:11.27 | pmo | how does you conf look now? |
| 04:11.42 | pmo | might have to |
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| 04:13.14 | yvw | pmo: network manager has different dns servers |
| 04:13.42 | yvw | pmo: are you from a prime ministers office? |
| 04:14.02 | pmo | lol, i guess you are from india :P |
| 04:14.34 | wsky | yvw: you should disable writing to resolv.conf in your dhcp client config file |
| 04:14.37 | yvw | pmo: Sorry, you have a cloak |
| 04:14.47 | pmo | ? |
| 04:15.07 | yvw | wsky: Where is the dhcp configuration file? |
| 04:15.13 | wsky | somewhere in /etc |
| 04:15.17 | wsky | lemme run debian |
| 04:16.09 | pmo | /etc/resolv.conf |
| 04:16.35 | pmo | then restart network service |
| 04:16.59 | yvw | wsky: there is a dhcp conf file but its all commented. |
| 04:17.08 | yvw | I did edit /etc/resolv.conf |
| 04:17.12 | LtL | yvw: /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf |
| 04:17.16 | wsky | /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf |
| 04:17.18 | pmo | /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf |
| 04:17.21 | pmo | haha |
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| 04:18.17 | yvw | wsky: /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf is all commented for a few sections |
| 04:18.43 | wsky | i'm sorry it appears that it's impossible to configure with dhclient! |
| 04:18.52 | wsky | maybe dhcpcd would do |
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| 04:19.24 | pmo | im not sure why he has issues.. i just changed my nameservers, restarted networking and it worked |
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| 04:19.46 | LtL | I think network-manager is writing to /etc/resolv.conf don't know how to stop it though. |
| 04:20.26 | pmo | you could also add the nameservers to networkmanager |
| 04:20.27 | yvw | LtL: Yes, evertime /etc/resolv.conf has default values from dhcp server. |
| 04:20.35 | wsky | i'm confused |
| 04:20.55 | wsky | seemed that it was possible to disable it with dhcp clients options |
| 04:20.57 | yvw | pmo: I did edit network manager files to add a static nameserver |
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| 04:21.26 | pmo | strange it doesnt work then |
| 04:22.06 | yvw | wsky: evertime I restart the computer, /etc/resolv.conf has default values. |
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| 04:23.04 | pmo | in my /etc/resolv.conf i have this: |
| 04:23.08 | pmo | nameserver 8.8.8.8 |
| 04:23.09 | pmo | nameserver 8.8.4.4 |
| 04:23.23 | wsky | yvw: are you sure that you do not use /etc/init.d/networking and /etc/init.d/network-manager at the same time? |
| 04:23.28 | Arrowmaster | you can try using resolvconf (the package) and configuring it to use a static nameserver |
| 04:23.31 | pmo | and its generated by networkmanager |
| 04:23.54 | yvw | I have a roadrunner cable modem and a computer , there is no router in between. The cable modem has a dhcp server but i had configured static name servers manually. I did use a default nameserver from san diego and others from google , the 8.8.8.8 . |
| 04:23.56 | pmo | # Generated by NetworkManager |
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| 04:24.32 | yvw | wsky: Gnome uses network manager I think and it is overwriting /etc/resolv.conf file |
| 04:24.38 | pmo | it is |
| 04:24.45 | pmo | the file says its generated by it |
| 04:25.09 | pmo | im not even on gnome and its the same |
| 04:25.36 | yvw | yvw: I edited the gui network settings in system> Administration>network |
| 04:26.16 | wsky | yvw: nice to see you talking to yourself :-) btw have tried to use nm-applet instead? :-P |
| 04:26.23 | yvw | yvw: yet, the name server defaults to to those from cable modem |
| 04:26.32 | pmo | anyways yvw you should consider getting a router, just for your own safety btw |
| 04:26.41 | yvw | the name server assigned is in herndon , VA but I was looking for a nameserver which is local |
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| 04:27.22 | yvw | wsky: Sorry, If I were rambling. I configued the nm-applet as well. |
| 04:27.23 | pmo | also then you can set the dns there, no more issues |
| 04:28.28 | yvw | wsky: I did edit ipv4 settings in nm-applet but networking seems to stop after that. |
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| 04:29.01 | pmo | then restart it |
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| 04:29.22 | yvw | wsky: in IPv4 settings, I chose dhcp address only and after that I entered two name servers from google . After this networking applet stops and there is no network. |
| 04:29.54 | wsky | yvw: you should try turning off gnome networking deamon if there is any |
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| 04:30.24 | wsky | i honestly can't remember gnome settings at all |
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| 04:30.36 | wsky | it was so long ago |
| 04:30.51 | pmo | wsky: its simple NetworkManager controls it |
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| 04:32.29 | yvw | wsky, pmo : I'm restarting |
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| 04:33.57 | pfred1 | what can cause tload to report incorrectly? |
| 04:33.58 | yvw | wsky: Now, the nameservers are static |
| 04:34.29 | wsky | yvw: what have you changed? |
| 04:34.49 | DebianUsr | For the entire channel, I found this while searching the net and so I copied and pasted it. So would you rathr stability or crashes from time to time? :) http://nopaste.info/fb5c4a0ff8.html Debian Forever :) |
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| 04:35.22 | yvw | yvw: the gnome nw applet , I changed ipv4 settings in which I chose get address from dhcp with static name servers which I entered. |
| 04:35.59 | wsky | got that nose lol |
| 04:36.18 | yvw | wsky: thanks |
| 04:36.42 | yvw | wsky: I did try to do the same earlier but network was not starting for some reason |
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| 04:36.55 | wsky | hm |
| 04:36.57 | yvw | have to restart to see if the settings are permanent. |
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| 04:40.14 | vale_ | Can anyone help me get sound working on Debian? I've been trying forever and still can't get it :\ |
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| 04:42.03 | pfred1 | vale_ have you opened up a mixer program to make sure your sound level is up and not muted? |
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| 04:42.26 | vale_ | I opened up alsa and messed around, yeah |
| 04:42.43 | pfred1 | vale_ alsamixer ? |
| 04:42.50 | vale_ | yes |
| 04:43.46 | yvw_ | wsky: |
| 04:43.51 | yvw_ | wsky: It worked |
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| 04:45.40 | yvw_ | Who is the BenNZ troll? |
| 04:45.58 | vale_ | The guy who isn't going to see the light at the end of the tunnel, I guess. |
| 04:46.04 | n3rV3 | :) |
| 04:46.08 | pfred1 | vale_ back in the day the big test was to cat sample.au > /dev/dsp |
| 04:46.15 | yvw_ | vale_: :)) |
| 04:46.30 | yvw_ | There are all sorts of clowns on the net |
| 04:46.58 | pfred1 | vale_ one big issue that can stop sound from working is permissions like if your users does not have permission to access the device |
| 04:47.13 | pfred1 | vale_ so try as root to see if you get sound |
| 04:47.43 | vale_ | aha!! |
| 04:47.54 | pfred1 | add your user to the sound group |
| 04:48.28 | vale_ | How do I do that? (Sorry to sound like a noob) |
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| 04:49.56 | pfred1 | vale_ as root you have to modify your users group I think in debian it is the audio group you want to join |
| 04:50.00 | yvw_ | a general doubt on dns servers and modems, routers . Assuming I have static dns name servers on the computer, does it really use dns requests from the router/modem again even though there are static dns servers configured in gnome /debian? |
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| 04:50.46 | n3rV3 | yvw_, no it wont for entries matching on your server |
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| 04:51.09 | n3rV3 | it will resolve them from the server itself |
| 04:51.54 | yvw_ | n3rV3: the cable modem assigns different name servers. I have entered two name servers which are different from those automatically assigned by dhcp server ( modem). So when I enter a http request, which dns servers are used? |
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| 04:53.34 | n3rV3 | doesnt matter, you can set any random nameserver on your computer and check yourself, it wont go to my isp's nameserver then |
| 04:53.49 | n3rV3 | s/my/your/ |
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| 04:54.15 | yvw_ | n3rV3: I use google and rr's name servers which are local |
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| 04:55.27 | nixbag | without using a full DE, is there an easy way to get pulseaudio working? |
| 04:55.39 | nixbag | so far i have alsa, alsa-utils, and pulseaudio installed. |
| 04:55.45 | nixbag | but i get no sound output |
| 04:55.53 | wsky | hm |
| 04:56.06 | ZekeS | nixbag: works fine here vOv |
| 04:56.09 | wsky | nixbag: did you try changing the card in your alsamixer? |
| 04:56.11 | nixbag | i got sound when it was just alsa, in a minimal install. |
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| 04:56.38 | wsky | nixbag: also , an application must support pulseaudio device |
| 04:56.41 | ZekeS | user NOT in audio group, starting X on the login tty (so no need for ck-launch-session), no DE/DM |
| 04:56.44 | ZekeS | wsky: ...... no. |
| 04:56.48 | nixbag | i had alsamixer unmuted and alsa alone was working perfect. but with pulseaudio installed, no sound. |
| 04:56.52 | wsky | ZekeS: no? |
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| 04:57.02 | wsky | ok i'm wrong then/. |
| 04:57.08 | ZekeS | wsky: either it supports pulse directly or it talks to pulse using the alsa plugin :/ |
| 04:57.14 | yvw_ | is zurich insurance in this channel? |
| 04:57.17 | wsky | ic |
| 04:57.25 | nixbag | my user is in the audio, pulse, and pulse-access groups. |
| 04:57.32 | n3rV3 | yvw_, yes so it will use those set on your server, thats what i am saying |
| 04:57.44 | somethinginteres | running debian testing. Having an issue where playing a video in mythtv logs me out. I updated xorg recently in the latest batch of updates. Wondering how to resolve the issue - rollback? |
| 04:57.58 | yvw_ | n3rV3: what is the server, did you mean by debian machine? |
| 04:58.13 | n3rV3 | yes |
| 04:58.20 | ZekeS | nixbag: in pavucontrol or `pacmd list-sinks`, do you get any sinks or just a Dummy Output? |
| 04:58.38 | kingsley | Which video format enjoys the widest compatibility on the web? .mov? .avi? .mpeg4? |
| 04:58.38 | n3rV3 | have to go now |
| 04:59.01 | ZekeS | (also you REALLY don't need to be in pulse or pulse-access unless you're running a system-wide pulse from an initscript which you don't sound like you're doing, and shouldn't do anyways) |
| 04:59.05 | kingsley | somethinginteres: Can you tell if mythtv crashed? |
| 05:00.15 | nixbag | ZekeS: it says i have 2 sinks available |
| 05:00.21 | somethinginteres | kingsley: it doesn't seem like it did based on the text file I have of a verbose log. |
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| 05:01.04 | kingsley | somethinginteres: Could X have crashed? |
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| 05:01.15 | wsky | nixbag: but seriously, check alsamixer pulseaudio device |
| 05:01.37 | somethinginteres | kingsley: that's what I am thinking but I really don't know enough to be certain but b/c it sent me back to the login prompt it's my guess. |
| 05:01.41 | wsky | for pulseaudio device controlls |
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| 05:02.30 | nixbag | ZekeS: this is my pacmd output: http://pastebin.com/AygyEkhr |
| 05:02.31 | kingsley | somethinginteres: Did your entire monitor and desktop go black, or just a window? |
| 05:02.46 | Rusty1 | there is a #pulseaudio channel, #alsa as well |
| 05:02.56 | nixbag | wsky: alsamixer has only 1 equalization bar (Master) and it is full and unmuted. |
| 05:03.48 | somethinginteres | kingsley: started to try and play video - the screen went black for a second or 2 and I was back at login prompt. Though... I was full screen so it could've just been the window |
| 05:03.52 | wsky | dunno, i just noticed that the debian sid system i'm operating on atm had no pa so i've installed it, relogged and guess what, works ootb |
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| 05:04.29 | ZekeS | nixbag: switch cards in alsamixer to your actual cards and see if theyre muted there.? |
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| 05:05.16 | kingsley | somethinginteres: It seems to me that X may have crashed, and you might be wise to check it's log file for a more precise diagnosis. |
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| 05:06.05 | somethinginteres | kingsley: will investigate |
| 05:06.17 | kingsley | somethinginteres: /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 05:09.46 | somethinginteres | kingsley: couldn't really see evidence of a crash in Xorg.0.log but in Xorg.0.old.log there's evidence of a crash. Backtrace etc. Says there was a segmentation fault. |
| 05:10.41 | fortress_ | Hello. I'm having difficulty with line in/mic in on Debian Wheezy. Audio out works fine on the system, but any audio in sounds strangely distorted. I am using pulseaudio. |
| 05:10.42 | fortress_ | Any ideas? |
| 05:10.56 | fortress_ | The hardware is HDA Intel |
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| 05:11.27 | kingsley | somethinginteres: The files' dates may reveal that the one with the seg fault immediately preceded the one for the instance of X you're using now. |
| 05:12.12 | kingsley | somethinginteres: If that's the case, it might be helpful to search the web for "segmentation fault" and a few unique looking strings from the stack trace. |
| 05:12.50 | somethinginteres | kingsley: yeah the date shows the .old log was directly before the X I am using now |
| 05:13.05 | yvw_ | there is no hardware gpu acceleration for some reason in debian. Can anybody say how to enable it? |
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| 05:13.35 | pfred1 | yvw_ you need the non-free binary blob |
| 05:13.57 | yvw_ | pfred1: I have free versions of sw probably. |
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| 05:15.57 | somethinginteres | kingsley: nothing useful showing up so far. Mythtv seems to recommend a reinstall of NVidia's drivers. |
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| 05:18.32 | somethinginteres | kingsley: not sure that's a solution since all other videos etc work. |
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| 05:22.46 | kingsley | somethinginteres: I need to go soon. Good luck. :-) |
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| 05:22.54 | kingsley | somethinginteres: PS: I suspect a bug related to the video driver. |
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| 05:23.28 | somethinginteres | kingsley: thanks for the help anyway. Good to confirm at least that X did in fact, crash. |
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| 05:38.55 | DebianUsr | Can anyonrelse access www.1and1.com or is it just me |
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| 06:16.23 | chicognu | hi, i have a USB wireless card, it appers in lsusb but not in ifconfig ... what shoud i do ? |
| 06:17.00 | wsky | chicognu: look in dmesg in the first okace |
| 06:17.04 | wsky | place |
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| 06:18.40 | chicognu | wsky, look at dmesg for hat ? |
| 06:18.44 | chicognu | wsky, look at dmesg for what ? |
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| 06:19.00 | wsky | for module/firmware errors |
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| 06:22.05 | chicognu | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:22.17 | chicognu | no errors so far wsky |
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| 06:35.17 | burhan|work | in apt-cache showpkg some-package, the version number shown, this is the version number of the package being installed or some other debian-specific number? |
| 06:36.30 | vale_ | what do I need to install so I can watch youtube vids properly? So far I can either not see it or not hear them |
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| 06:40.29 | kingsley | burhan|work: I humbly suggest searching the web for documentation containing the following keywords: debian flashplugin-nonfree gnash |
| 06:40.56 | kingsley | burhan|work: Oops! Sorry. I meant to answer vale_. |
| 06:41.07 | kingsley | vale_: I humbly suggest searching the web for documentation containing the following keywords: debian flashplugin-nonfree gnash |
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| 06:42.20 | RocketLauncher | I didn't select any mirrors when installing Debian and I'm left with a pretty bare system with just KDE installed. what do? |
| 06:42.53 | burhan|work | RocketLauncher: add some lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 06:43.13 | kingsley | burhan|work: I think apt-cache shows the version that can be installed, if it's not already. |
| 06:43.21 | RocketLauncher | burhan|work, ah ok |
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| 06:44.02 | wsky | chicognu: what ifconfig -a shows? |
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| 06:45.33 | chicognu | wsky, i flow this step by step http://wp.mindless.gr/2012/02/installing-tp-link-tl-wn727n-usb-wireless-n-150mbps-adapter-on-debian-squeeze/ |
| 06:46.24 | chicognu | ra0 Link encap:Ethernet Endereço de HW 00:00:00:00:00:00 |
| 06:46.24 | chicognu | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:46.25 | chicognu | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:46.33 | chicognu | i belive it is the wifi intrface wsky |
| 06:46.44 | wsky | i supose so |
| 06:47.13 | chicognu | wsky, now how do i use it ? |
| 06:47.20 | wsky | chicognu: btw do not paste that many lines here. it's not a pastebin. use real pastebins and then repaste the link. one more line and you would get autokicked. |
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| 06:47.36 | ectospasm | I usually use aptitude to install and upgrade packages... but it is complaining about removing a TON of packages (like over 700) due to some missing dependencies. Would it be safe to run apt-get (which doesn't complain about unmet dependencies) here? |
| 06:47.39 | wsky | chicognu: i do not think it works well because the macaddress is invalid |
| 06:47.40 | ectospasm | (I'm using sid) |
| 06:48.10 | chicognu | wsky, maby a reboot ? |
| 06:48.18 | wsky | for what? |
| 06:48.30 | chicognu | i dunno i ways do that on windows |
| 06:48.31 | chicognu | lol |
| 06:48.57 | wsky | linux is way more gracious on that side |
| 06:49.29 | wsky | chicognu: can you paste output of iwconfig to a pastebin? |
| 06:49.33 | ectospasm | even still, rebooting Linux can be the expedient way to fix things. |
| 06:49.33 | wsky | i mean iwconfig not ifconfig |
| 06:50.00 | kingsley | ectospasm: I used both, read that one should not, and don't know whether it's OK or not. |
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| 06:50.23 | chicognu | sure wsky |
| 06:51.05 | wsky | and yeah, could you replug the adapter afterwards and paste lets say, last 100 lines of your dmesg? |
| 06:51.23 | ectospasm | kingsley: yeah... I'd rather not just allow it to remove all those packages... some of them (xfce-dict, e.g.) I know I use. |
| 06:51.40 | chicognu | sure wsky |
| 06:52.05 | chicognu | wsky, it will only take a couple of minutes because i have a 56k conection only |
| 06:52.16 | chicognu | and takes a bit longer to load webpages |
| 06:52.46 | kingsley | ectospasm: Does it ask if you'd like it to search for another solution? Recently, I've seen much conciser package lists on the second guess. |
| 06:52.51 | wsky | chicognu: you can install pastebinit script from sid later on. it works well on sqeeze and wont cause trouble |
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| 06:53.30 | ectospasm | it does, but the list is so large, it's really not easy to tell what the difference is |
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| 06:53.51 | ectospasm | there's so many packages involved, I'm likely to be hitting 'n' for a long time. |
| 06:53.57 | RocketLauncher | burhan|work, so i add sources and just do an apt-grade upgrade? |
| 06:54.05 | wsky | chicognu: and i think i'll go to bed soon so... imight be unresponsive |
| 06:54.06 | RocketLauncher | because thatd just upgrade the packages i already have |
| 06:54.15 | RocketLauncher | how do i get the packages that would've been installed if i selected a mirror on the CD? |
| 06:54.54 | burhan|work | RocketLauncher: selecting a mirror doesn't install anything. |
| 06:55.11 | burhan|work | update your sources and then run tasksel |
| 06:55.53 | RocketLauncher | Ah niceeeeee |
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| 06:56.39 | chicognu | wsky, thank you anyway for the help |
| 06:56.47 | chicognu | wsky, internet here ar really slow |
| 06:57.20 | wsky | yes that's why you should use a pastebin rather then web interfaces to paste the stuff |
| 06:57.35 | wsky | ah he left |
| 06:57.58 | wsky | anyways, gotta go, nn everyone |
| 06:58.31 | burhan|work | I have an issue with an init.d script (http://bpaste.net/show/BBvYUX0DWuCZAYal2PC5/) when I try to add it using update-rc.d defaults, I get the following message http://bpaste.net/show/tdMWKdsjFZ09vM8bfeTL/ - any ideas? |
| 06:59.17 | ectospasm | aha! I need to pay closer attention! Disabled experimental... and... MUCH more manageable... |
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| 11:53.29 | ninja-hattori | hello |
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| 12:02.19 | JyZyXEL | why can't i see terminus in xfontsel fmly after installing xfonts-terminus ? |
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| 12:07.00 | nkuttler | JyZyXEL: xlsfonts | grep -i terminus ? |
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| 12:07.20 | JyZyXEL | nkuttler: says nothing |
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| 12:09.47 | jelly-home | JyZyXEL: did you run "xset fp rehash"? |
| 12:09.54 | jelly-home | or restart the X session? |
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| 12:10.39 | JyZyXEL | nope |
| 12:11.05 | JyZyXEL | i assumed the install script for font packages would do that |
| 12:11.49 | jelly-home | install scripts, in general, do not do anything as the current logged in user |
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| 12:13.34 | jelly-home | JyZyXEL: run it as normal user in your X session |
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| 12:15.06 | JyZyXEL | i wonder why xfontsel doesn't run it when it starts |
| 12:15.39 | jelly-home | why would it? Each tool does one job. |
| 12:17.32 | JyZyXEL | do you happen to remember what the tool was that could be used to view X events? |
| 12:17.36 | JyZyXEL | like mouse and keyboard |
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| 12:29.02 | ix_ | is there any way to install debian on the ARM chromebook? |
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| 12:30.24 | ompaul | ix_: this may or may not match your requirements there are also youtube videos to give you an overview so you shouldn't really be stuck http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Samsung/ARMChromebook |
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| 12:33.36 | ix_ | ompaul: I've found no instructions anywhere |
| 12:34.26 | elnegro | hi, i have the following problem |
| 12:34.33 | elnegro | i've recently updated my debian from squeeze to wheezy |
| 12:34.33 | elnegro | the update was performed with some problems that were |
| 12:34.33 | elnegro | solved after several apt-get --dist-upgrade |
| 12:34.45 | elnegro | finally it all is working fine |
| 12:34.54 | elnegro | after upgrade the installed kernel is 2.6.x |
| 12:34.54 | elnegro | i wanted to test 3.x, so installed it with apt-get |
| 12:34.55 | elnegro | installation ok |
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| 12:35.03 | elnegro | after reboot, selecting kernel 3.x, the boot screen |
| 12:35.04 | elnegro | shows messages and at certain point the screen turns black... |
| 12:35.11 | elnegro | the system is running fine but i can't see anything |
| 12:35.12 | elnegro | i can blindly login and emit reboot command after |
| 12:35.12 | elnegro | rebooting i select the old 2.6.x kernel and it boots |
| 12:35.12 | elnegro | with no problems... |
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| 12:35.49 | elnegro | the system is running fine but i can't see anything |
| 12:35.50 | elnegro | i can blindly login and emit reboot command after |
| 12:35.56 | elnegro | rebooting i select the old 2.6.x kernel and it boots |
| 12:35.57 | elnegro | with no problems... |
| 12:36.02 | elnegro | after some research in internet it seems it's no an |
| 12:36.02 | elnegro | uncommon problem |
| 12:36.06 | ompaul | elnegro you apt-get dist-upgrade and if that does not change your kernel please place your sources in http://paste.debian.net |
| 12:36.09 | elnegro | proposed solutions point to kernel mode setting, and |
| 12:36.09 | elnegro | nouveau drivers conflict with nvidia drivers (i have an |
| 12:36.20 | elnegro | intel dg33fb intel motherboard and an nvidia 9800 gt |
| 12:36.20 | elnegro | graphics card) |
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| 12:36.24 | ompaul | ah |
| 12:36.32 | Nik05 | elnegro: why do you put text on multiple lines? you get kicked by the bot if you do that |
| 12:36.36 | elnegro | many suggests blacklisting the nouveau driver in |
| 12:36.36 | elnegro | / etc / modprobe.d to solve the problem... |
| 12:36.40 | elnegro | i've found that my system is configured this way and |
| 12:36.40 | elnegro | kernel 2.6.x works fine (no black screen) |
| 12:36.45 | elnegro | just for testing i've removed the black listing and |
| 12:36.45 | elnegro | then my kernel 3.x boots fine but now kernel 2.x is |
| 12:36.50 | elnegro | the one that turns the screen black |
| 12:36.50 | thechef | How do I get the program "apper" to not install microsoft core fonts? I want to instruct apper to not install recommends. apt-get seems to agree on my APT-settings, but apper (packagekit) fails. Any ideas? |
| 12:36.50 | elnegro | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:36.56 | elnegro | at this point i don't matter, i'm running kernel 3.x as |
| 12:36.56 | elnegro | i wanted, but...now i can't run x11, it does not event |
| 12:37.02 | elnegro | swicthes the screen to graphics mode and gives an error |
| 12:37.03 | elnegro | saying that it does not find defined screens |
| 12:37.04 | ompaul | elnegro: remove the nvidia card to get a clean uopdate and then when it is complete put the card back in and start working on the nvidia issue is my advice |
| 12:37.18 | elnegro | i've downloaded last nvidia drivers from their site and |
| 12:37.19 | elnegro | tried to install it, but...the first thing it tell that |
| 12:37.22 | elnegro | is a problem is that nouveau drivers are not |
| 12:37.23 | elnegro | blacklisted, so it creates an entry in /etc/modprobe.d |
| 12:37.26 | elnegro | and ask to reboot even before trying to compile the |
| 12:37.27 | elnegro | kernel module...obviously if i reboot in kernel 3.x i |
| 12:37.30 | Nik05 | elnegro: what fucking irc client do you use? |
| 12:37.30 | elnegro | get the black screen again :(, i boot in 2.6.x it does |
| 12:37.31 | elnegro | not install drivers in 3.x |
| 12:37.36 | elnegro | so...i'm in a circle i'm not able to break and |
| 12:37.36 | elnegro | finally get kernel 3.x and x11 running together, any |
| 12:37.41 | elnegro | pointers are greatly appreciated, thanks... |
| 12:37.41 | elnegro | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:38.22 | elnegro | Nik05: KVirc |
| 12:39.10 | Nik05 | Its really annoying, cause it starts a new line in the middle of a sentence. |
| 12:39.31 | ompaul | elnegro: remove the nvidia card to get a clean uopdate and then when it is complete put the card back in and start working on the nvidia issue is my advice |
| 12:40.04 | ompaul | elnegro: i.e. get the box working with intel, then work on adding that nvidia card |
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| 12:41.20 | elnegro | ompaul: the upgrade is already fully done, i think i'm in the phase of doing it working with nvidia |
| 12:42.11 | ompaul | elnegro: eh you don't know because you say when you boot that kernel it fails it could be breaking on boot - you are assuming unless you have some other knowledge you are not sharing |
| 12:42.28 | ompaul | !nvidia |
| 12:42.28 | dpkg | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . Ask me about <nouveau> (open source driver) or <nvidia dkms> (proprietary driver). For GPUs made before 2004, ask me about <nvidia legacy>. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 12:44.25 | rweitz | is there an apt-get entry to put in the sources.list to download and install google chrome? |
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| 12:45.52 | k-t | yes |
| 12:45.56 | elnegro | ompaul: i think the upgrade is done and done correctly. the only issue as i see is that the new kernel blacks out the screen during boot sequence, ths system is fully usable blindly |
| 12:46.26 | rweitz | k-t can you share it? |
| 12:46.35 | ompaul | elnegro: can you ssh into it? |
| 12:46.49 | elnegro | pmpaul: yes |
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| 12:47.33 | ompaul | elnegro: well in that case ssh in and do the nvidia magic |
| 12:47.49 | ompaul | nouveau if you can to start |
| 12:48.15 | k-t | rweitz: www.google.com/linuxrepositories/ |
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| 12:49.06 | elnegro | ompauL: nvidia drivers refuses even compile new driver because it detects nouveau, it installs the blacklist again in /etc/modprobe.d and asks to reboot before compiling |
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| 12:50.43 | rweitz | k-t thank you. |
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| 13:06.31 | ksuhku | https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/investigate-microsofts-requirement-secureboot-uefi-interface-anti-competitive/W819g11G |
| 13:08.22 | sh0t | do u guys know a way to play a flash video (which u have already loaded on a browser) with mplayer...looking through the filesystem for Flash"something" files... |
| 13:08.23 | sh0t | ? |
| 13:08.34 | sh0t | I don't know a script or seomthign |
| 13:08.35 | sh0t | ... |
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| 13:42.16 | Eryn_1983_FL | hi |
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| 13:46.31 | abrotman | raouf: /msg nickserv help |
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| 13:54.56 | abrotman | DebianUsr: using vi and ssh is really the best way to do that. |
| 13:55.05 | abrotman | !tell DebianUsr about free whcp |
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| 13:55.28 | DebianUsr | thank you abrot |
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| 14:30.57 | notjimcarrey | ok, i found out that the first channel i tell the HVR-1950 to tune to has good sound, but when i change the channel, the sound messes up, unless i reset the device. any ideas? |
| 14:31.36 | Towzzer | that works on linux? |
| 14:32.16 | notjimcarrey | yes |
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| 14:38.45 | tobe1896 | now i've found the solutions for my problem that i could choose the packages (like gui, web server, mail server, ..) in installation. Looks like the path to the netinst.iso was wrong |
| 14:39.03 | tobe1896 | ...that i couldn't choose... |
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| 14:56.43 | someoneelse_ | what init system does wheezy use (upstart, systemd, sysv)? i seem to have a mix installed on my system |
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| 14:57.44 | ocei3ko | sysv |
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| 14:58.06 | someoneelse_ | so it's sufficient to run update-rc.d to disable a service? |
| 14:58.25 | ocei3ko | rcconf |
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| 14:58.48 | abrotman | someoneelse_: yes, you can use update-rc.d |
| 14:58.57 | someoneelse_ | abrotman, thanks =) |
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| 15:25.39 | crane | does someone knows how to convert a mbr partition to gpt without losing all files? |
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| 15:26.55 | Towzzer | that's tough because gpt has an msdos partition for backward compatiblity |
| 15:27.02 | Towzzer | but it also extends further into the drive |
| 15:27.06 | Towzzer | so data there could be overwritten |
| 15:27.14 | Towzzer | then gpt also has some stuff at the end of the disk |
| 15:27.46 | ompaul | crane: you can't get there from here |
| 15:27.57 | ompaul | crane: welcome to the land of backups |
| 15:28.07 | dvs | gasps |
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| 15:28.17 | crane | i've got a backup, just to lazy to restore 1,5tb of files ^ |
| 15:28.18 | crane | ^^ |
| 15:28.25 | Towzzer | why do you need to convert? |
| 15:28.28 | Towzzer | was the drive over 2tb? |
| 15:28.32 | crane | 3,6tb |
| 15:28.41 | Towzzer | but you started with a mbr? |
| 15:28.45 | crane | i missed it when i was partitioning it |
| 15:28.51 | crane | yeah... fdisk... my fault |
| 15:28.57 | crane | brain afk |
| 15:29.00 | ompaul | crane: have a crate of Doh! ;-) and woops as well |
| 15:29.05 | crane | :D |
| 15:29.33 | Towzzer | fdisk is outdated, use parted |
| 15:29.35 | crane | was just looking at it with df and was wondering... "uh... 1,6tb for filesystem...? nope..." |
| 15:29.49 | ompaul | whispers lvm |
| 15:30.10 | ompaul | I'm not sure if that helps but it should |
| 15:30.10 | crane | indeed... lvm |
| 15:30.51 | crane | nevermind... i will destroy it and build it new |
| 15:31.11 | crane | just sucks... never copy 2tb by using usb2.0 |
| 15:31.25 | Towzzer | yes, esata is faste :D |
| 15:31.46 | crane | sigh |
| 15:31.59 | dvs | usb3.0 is almost as fast. |
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| 15:32.13 | Towzzer | faster than esata I think |
| 15:32.18 | Towzzer | isn't usb3.0 a few gigabits? |
| 15:32.44 | dvs | 5Gbps max |
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| 15:33.36 | crane | so brb in 28h when i'm done ^^ |
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| 15:34.25 | Towzzer | why do you have to leave? |
| 15:34.27 | Towzzer | you can chat |
| 15:34.30 | cardamon | Is there an alternative network manager frontend to network-manager-kde that isn't network-manager-gnome (which is where nm-applet is)? |
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| 15:34.56 | abrotman | cardamon: you can use something other than n-m if you prefer |
| 15:35.20 | n3rV3 | cardamon, edit the interfaces file |
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| 15:36.01 | cardamon | n3rV3: Don't want to. I change APs a lot. |
| 15:36.11 | abrotman | cardamon: wicd or wifiradar might work for you |
| 15:36.24 | n3rV3 | ok |
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| 15:37.10 | cardamon | abrotman: I like n-m, but I'd like it more if it had something like wicd-curses |
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| 15:37.28 | n3rV3 | /usr/bin/nm-connection-editor, i think this belongs to lxde |
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| 15:37.40 | Umair | installing GitLab I'm having 502 Bad Gateway and in logs it says no file or dir at /gitlab-ci/tmp/sockets/... |
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| 15:38.27 | abrotman | cardamon: okay, well, i've given you alternatives, otherwise, you get the network-manager-kde |
| 15:39.11 | cardamon | The problem with that one is that it's a plasma widget, so if you don't want to run plasma you're SOL. |
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| 15:46.00 | abrotman | cardamon: i don't want to run KDE at all, so i'm good there :) |
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| 15:49.24 | crane | ompaul, i'm a lil bit confused now ^^ |
| 15:49.46 | crane | i build an lvm with 3 disks, 2x 1tb and 1x 2tb |
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| 15:49.55 | crane | the 2tb is now gpt |
| 15:50.12 | crane | i used ext4 |
| 15:50.28 | crane | but an df says that i got only 2tb availible? |
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| 15:51.32 | ompaul | it should have gone bigger |
| 15:51.38 | ompaul | lvmgrow |
| 15:51.42 | ompaul | wonders |
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| 15:53.01 | ompaul | lvdisplay says what? http://paste.debian.net will be happy to take the output |
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| 15:56.05 | crane | the size fits |
| 15:56.06 | crane | http://paste.debian.net/239546/ |
| 15:56.25 | crane | but if i try to extend the partition it's mumbeling something about "it's already the biggest" |
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| 15:57.07 | ompaul | ah I wonder is that your disk from the land of not gtp |
| 15:57.16 | ompaul | causing the complaints |
| 15:57.41 | crane | on which poit do i have to setup an gpt partition? ^^ |
| 15:57.49 | crane | i'm totaly confused atm |
| 15:58.04 | ompaul | is talking out loud, not really being logical |
| 15:59.05 | crane | my biggest disk aka 2tb has got now gpt ;) |
| 15:59.30 | ompaul | but lvm should just work |
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| 15:59.45 | ompaul | what are you using to resize the existing file systems? |
| 15:59.54 | ompaul | and what does fdisk -l say |
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| 16:00.04 | crane | resize2fs |
| 16:00.18 | ompaul | have you fscked all the partitions involved? |
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| 16:02.07 | crane | how can i check an lvm partition? |
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| 16:04.03 | x10 | what exactly is the problem? what is the actual state and what do you expect? |
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| 16:05.20 | Zach_ | Can anybody give support on how to install openjdk-7-jre when I get the following error: E: Unable to locate package openjdk-7-jre |
| 16:05.58 | ompaul | crane: you have other partitions - not lvm my understanding is that you should fsck your extN partitions |
| 16:06.10 | crane | ompaul, x10 i got this disks: http://pastebin.com/LuekFpst |
| 16:06.15 | ompaul | before you join / grow etc |
| 16:06.38 | x10 | Zach_: not in squeeze, backport or go wheezy |
| 16:06.40 | crane | ompaul, done this for the lvm device |
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| 16:06.55 | x10 | or install openjdk-6-jre instead |
| 16:07.11 | ompaul | crane: eh it says this 1 0,00B 4001GB 4001GB ext4 |
| 16:07.24 | Zach_ | x10: how does one backport? |
| 16:07.36 | ompaul | !tell Zach_ about backport |
| 16:07.55 | crane | ompaul, yes! so my disk space fits in! |
| 16:08.16 | crane | but the ext4 partition of this want grow larger than 2tb? |
| 16:08.21 | Zach_ | x10: I don't have that much experience, but I don't think I can change from squeeze? I assume it would be easier to backport? |
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| 16:08.35 | Zach_ | x10: also, is it bad to backport? and thanks! |
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| 16:09.59 | ompaul | crane: as I see it you need to mount /dev/mapper/fileserver-samba /samba-the-village-by-the-sea or something |
| 16:10.10 | ksuhku | !tell Zach_ backport caveat |
| 16:10.28 | ksuhku | !tell Zach_ about backport caveat |
| 16:10.49 | Zach_ | hmmm ok |
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| 16:11.04 | ompaul | crane: been a while since I had lvm live on anything or I could go look |
| 16:11.05 | Zach_ | well I can use java6, but I've heard 7 is much more stable and efficient |
| 16:11.10 | Zach_ | so I feel inclined to update |
| 16:11.23 | crane | ompaul, omg... dude... could you please hit me with a big rock or something like that? |
| 16:11.25 | Zach_ | would you reccommend I just stick with 6, or try and backport? |
| 16:11.57 | crane | i calculated something defently wrong... |
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| 16:12.33 | crane | is going back to first grade |
| 16:12.43 | ompaul | asks crain what is 2 + 1 + 1 |
| 16:12.59 | crane | can i use the telephone joker? |
| 16:13.06 | ompaul | advanced first grade :-) not all the way back |
| 16:13.24 | crane | for being smart enough to use the joker? :D |
| 16:13.30 | ompaul | na |
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| 16:13.55 | Zach_ | any reccommendations? |
| 16:14.02 | crane | bloody hell... thats awkward ^^ |
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| 16:17.57 | ompaul | Zach_: it's better than running testing as a full machine, but if you are using any more than single digits of backported packages you might want to consider running testing which is where backports can come from, but running testing is not running stable. So there you go, you want to step off stable to these things the backports system has been designed to help. If you run testing you have to be willing to accept that things might break (it is called |
| 16:17.58 | ompaul | testing for a reason) the part of the world you want may differ to the parts that are breaking but some day it might break. |
| 16:18.45 | ompaul | Zach_: in summary, a backport is handy. It can be useful if you really need it. Like all things, nothing comes with 100% certainty. |
| 16:19.34 | abrotman | I believe he can also just grab the java-package from wheezy and use that on squeeze to isntall java-7 |
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| 16:19.55 | Zach_ | hmmmm |
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| 16:20.08 | Zach_ | well I tried to backport but that's failing as well |
| 16:20.13 | Zach_ | abrotman: how could I do that? |
| 16:20.21 | Zach_ | I did apt-get -t squeeze-backports install "openjdk-7-jre" |
| 16:20.44 | Zach_ | with no luck |
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| 16:23.19 | ksuhku | Zach_, uhm, did you add bpo to your sources? |
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| 16:27.41 | ksuhku | is there even a openjdk 7 backport to begin with? |
| 16:27.57 | Armand | I'm having some trouble getting my laptop to do it's native res of 1024x768.. I'm stuck at 800x600 on KDE. Debian 6.0.7, KDE 4.4.5. http://pastebin.com/yrBkCfiw < Xorg.conf |
| 16:28.04 | Armand | What am I doing wrong here? |
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| 16:28.48 | Zach_ | ksuhku: I just added http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 16:28.55 | Zach_ | just followed that |
| 16:29.02 | jelly-home | ,v openjdk-7-jre |
| 16:29.03 | judd | Package: openjdk-7-jre on i386 -- sid: 7u3-2.1.6-1; wheezy: 7u3-2.1.6-1; experimental: 7u15-2.3.7-1 |
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| 16:29.23 | Zach_ | ? |
| 16:29.24 | jelly-home | no backports listed |
| 16:29.28 | Zach_ | oh |
| 16:29.29 | Zach_ | ok haha |
| 16:29.33 | ksuhku | :) |
| 16:29.40 | Zach_ | but what about |
| 16:29.41 | Zach_ | <abrotman> I believe he can also just grab the java-package from wheezy and use that on squeeze to isntall java-7 |
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| 16:30.49 | ksuhku | Armand, tried without that xorg.conf? |
| 16:31.01 | jelly-home | Zach_: yeah I've done that. make-jpkg tool from java-package can convert a .bin or .tar.gz from Oracle into installable .deb packages |
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| 16:31.30 | Zach_ | jelly-home: that literally...makes minimal sense to me |
| 16:31.34 | Armand | ksuhku, actually.. I haven't.. :/ |
| 16:31.44 | Armand | *derp* |
| 16:32.38 | Zach_ | jelly-home: how do I got about all of that>? |
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| 16:33.51 | Armand | ksuhku, I'll try that and report back.. brb |
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| 16:34.25 | metap0d | Hi everyone, I'm trying to locate the new images for 6.0.7 on my local mirror and for the life of me cannot find the right path. http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/, I would assume I follow Current Releases > Debian 6.0.7 but it seems like a dead end |
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| 16:35.26 | Zach_ | can anybody help with how to: grab the java-package from wheezy and use that on squeeze to isntall java-7 |
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| 16:37.13 | Zach_ | :L anybody? |
| 16:37.21 | Uuni | why not just upgrade to wheezy |
| 16:37.35 | Zach_ | how on earth does one go about that |
| 16:38.07 | ninjers | add the wheezy repos to your /etc/apt/sources.list and then use /etc/apt/preferences to pin testing and unstable to -1 |
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| 16:38.27 | ninjers | if you just want the updated java package |
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| 16:39.14 | Zach_ | then use /etc/apt/preferences to pin testing and unstable to -1 |
| 16:39.19 | Zach_ | how do i do that? |
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| 16:41.55 | ninjers | google apt-pinning for beginners, it'll give you exactly what you need |
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| 16:42.51 | boudiccas | Zach_: get squeeze up to date, then cghange every itenm of 'squeeze in sources.list to 'wheezy' and report back |
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| 16:44.12 | woshty_ | something is blocking ,y usb webcam. what might that be? how to find out? |
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| 16:44.57 | ksuhku | woshty, can it be a hardware button? :) |
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| 16:45.40 | Zach_ | boudiccas: how can I check that my squeeze is all up to date? |
| 16:45.43 | Zach_ | dont apt-get update |
| 16:45.45 | Armand | ksuhku, same result.. capped at 800x600, but KDE is slower now. |
| 16:45.45 | Zach_ | *done |
| 16:45.57 | Zach_ | Release: 6.0.6 Codename: squeeze |
| 16:45.59 | woshty | ksuhku: nope. it worked like it is setup now before. but now it starts recording as soon as i plug it in. and i can use it with another process. |
| 16:46.23 | ompaul | Zach_: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 16:46.25 | boudiccas | Zach_: sudo apt-get update, and upgrade as necessary |
| 16:46.54 | Zach_ | ok updating now |
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| 16:47.21 | Zach_ | The just replaze all "squeeze" with "wheezy" in my sources, correct? |
| 16:47.23 | Zach_ | *then |
| 16:47.27 | ompaul | Zach_: update is to update the list of things available, upgrade on the other hand is to upgrade things you have installed |
| 16:47.46 | Hyperi | Good evening, I'm asking about how can i re-run mysql_upgrade as the package doesnt include it. I had invalid password in my debian-sys-maint user and it is causing me all kinds of problems currently |
| 16:47.47 | boudiccas | Zach_: thats what i said |
| 16:48.07 | Hyperi | Is there apt magic to be typed or can I get the upgrade tool from another package? |
| 16:48.08 | Zach_ | boudiccas: I was just double checking, then should I apt-get update |
| 16:48.09 | ompaul | Zach_: at that point dist-upgrade or you will not get all new packages that make wheezy happy to work |
| 16:48.14 | Zach_ | ompaul: thanks, makes more sense now |
| 16:48.28 | ompaul | Zach_: after that it is essential to reboot |
| 16:48.43 | boudiccas | yes, but first pastebin the output to dpaste please |
| 16:48.48 | Zach_ | ompaul: wait, could you step by step that? |
| 16:48.58 | Zach_ | ompaul: so I'm upgrading now |
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| 16:49.05 | ompaul | Zach_:I just did - update - dist-upgrade -reboot |
| 16:49.23 | Zach_ | ompaul: alright, before I update sources i need to reboot, yes? |
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| 16:49.52 | boudiccas | Zach_: why? |
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| 16:50.03 | Zach_ | that's what was just said? |
| 16:50.09 | Zach_ | - update - dist-upgrade -reboot |
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| 16:50.46 | boudiccas | Zach_: read whats said, /dist/-uipograde, not bog standard upgrade |
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| 16:51.04 | ompaul | Zach_: squeeze - update - upgrade - reboot ; change sources - update - dist-upgrade - reboot |
| 16:51.34 | Zach_ | ok, on the first reboot |
| 16:51.42 | ompaul | Zach_: if it complains it will tell you what command to run ---- in that case DO WHAT IT SAYS |
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| 16:54.05 | Zach_ | ok, ompaul on it |
| 16:54.12 | Zach_ | just changing sources now |
| 16:54.34 | Zach_ | apt-get update in progress |
| 16:54.49 | Zach_ | then apt-get dist-upgrade correct/ |
| 16:55.09 | Zach_ | sorry if this is annoying..I can sense how I can be frustrating haha |
| 16:55.13 | Zach_ | Just trying to be careful |
| 16:56.09 | Zach_ | so far dist-upgrade is going good |
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| 16:57.18 | Zach_ | ok it's telling me to do something |
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| 16:58.20 | niteye | why does skype have a package for a debian that's not even released yet? that annoys me |
| 16:58.20 | Zach_ | ompaul: http://pastebin.com/byuwWam9 |
| 16:58.38 | niteye | since they removed the package for the stable debian |
| 16:58.39 | niteye | grr! |
| 16:59.21 | Zach_ | what on earth do I do? |
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| 17:00.50 | Zach_ | Any help anybidy? |
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| 17:02.30 | Zach_ | Anybody? ompaul boudiccas |
| 17:04.15 | Zach_ | can somebody offer some help with http://pastebin.com/byuwWam9 when I did dist-upgrade ? |
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| 17:04.23 | jelly-home | Zach_: it's not telling you to do something, but notifying you some things have changed if you plan to do compiling stuff from source |
| 17:04.32 | Zach_ | jelly-home: thanks bro |
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| 17:08.27 | alexxio_ | anyone can help me with maildrop and reformime? can't take the attachment from mails |
| 17:08.38 | alexxio_ | bailen: are you there? |
| 17:08.45 | alexxio_ | *babilen |
| 17:09.17 | ksuhku | Armand, does xorg log reveal anything of use? |
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| 17:12.25 | Zach_ | this is taking quite a while |
| 17:14.05 | ompaul | Zach_: first the downloads then the building out of packages |
| 17:14.19 | Zach_ | ompaul: it's still going =P |
| 17:14.30 | Zach_ | the sql is down |
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| 17:14.58 | ompaul | Zach_: do you always stick your tongue out at people who give you advise or is it just me? :-) |
| 17:15.37 | Zach_ | ompaul: haha I shall change my expression :) - it's a sign of gratitude |
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| 17:18.28 | jelly-home | ompaul: he's like a cat or a puppy, wants to lick you |
| 17:18.40 | Canar | hey guys, i've got a bit of a weird problem: on one of my debian rigs, at the gdm3 login screen, i enter the password for my username, hit enter, and it tells me "[username] is currently logged in" then just sits there |
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| 17:19.04 | Canar | anyone run into this before? |
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| 17:19.49 | Canar | There's a little green checkmark to the right of the username and "Currently logged in" |
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| 17:20.25 | Zach_ | jelly-home: this is true. |
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| 17:22.19 | Zach_ | oh my lord this is still going |
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| 17:23.05 | ksuhku | Canar, are you logged in a VT? |
| 17:23.23 | jelly-home | Zach_: it's typically a 2-3 hours task if everything goes right |
| 17:23.32 | Zach_ | oh holy shit |
| 17:23.34 | Zach_ | sorry |
| 17:23.37 | Zach_ | wow |
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| 17:24.02 | ksuhku | hang in there |
| 17:24.10 | Canar | ksuhku: nope |
| 17:24.29 | Zach_ | I was not expecting 2-3 hours haha |
| 17:24.47 | aguitel_ | i am in old laptop running wheezy with 3.2.0-4-486 kernel ,is there other kernel to try ? |
| 17:25.19 | ksuhku | Canar, I'd dive into gdm logs |
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| 17:25.31 | jelly-home | aguitel_: what does "grep model\ name /proc/cpuinfo" say? |
| 17:25.47 | Zach_ | any way I can estimate how far through it I am? |
| 17:26.08 | jelly-home | not really |
| 17:26.18 | aguitel_ | jelly-home, model name: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz |
| 17:26.48 | ksuhku | aguitel_, that's a brand spanking new machine! |
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| 17:27.04 | ksuhku | about any kernel will do |
| 17:27.10 | jelly-home | aguitel_: you can safely use a 3.2.0-4-686-pae kernel on that one |
| 17:27.20 | Zach_ | oh little problem |
| 17:27.26 | Zach_ | configuring "GRUB" |
| 17:27.29 | Zach_ | no idea what that is |
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| 17:27.41 | Zach_ | what drivers do i install it on |
| 17:27.42 | aguitel_ | jelly-home, do you think pae kernel will be more faster ? |
| 17:27.50 | Zach_ | and I can't work out how to actually select it |
| 17:27.56 | ksuhku | Zach_, /msg dpkg grub |
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| 17:28.10 | jelly-home | aguitel_: -486 is the slowest, most compatible kernel |
| 17:28.33 | aguitel_ | jelly-home,i try pae |
| 17:29.14 | hetOrakel | hi all, i have a daemon (written by me) running under some user. I created a logrotate config for this daemon, but when the lofgile gets rotated the damemon has to start stop. The problem is when i use postscript the daemon is running under root after the restart..... |
| 17:30.15 | Zach_ | ksuhku: I can't work out how to select the options |
| 17:30.30 | Zach_ | ksuhku: Im in SSH and I have tried all keys and the red box isn't changing |
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| 17:31.31 | Zach_ | any help? |
| 17:31.39 | ksuhku | Zach_, no idea |
| 17:31.49 | Zach_ | crap haha |
| 17:31.57 | Zach_ | it's like [ ] /dev/sda |
| 17:32.01 | Zach_ | and it's red in the [ ] |
| 17:32.36 | jelly-home | press space to select it |
| 17:32.58 | jelly-home | press Tab and/or cursors to move to the [ok] button |
| 17:33.12 | Zach_ | kk, I tried all but space |
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| 17:33.18 | Zach_ | it reccommends installing on all drivers |
| 17:33.24 | Zach_ | I guess I should just do that? |
| 17:33.42 | jelly-home | drives*, no need to, just the one you boot from |
| 17:34.06 | Zach_ | jelly-home: thanks for being patient with me and helping, done so =) |
| 17:34.22 | ksuhku | likely e.g. /dev/sda, that means the master boot record |
| 17:35.54 | Zach_ | thanks =) |
| 17:35.57 | Zach_ | ok all seemed good |
| 17:35.58 | Canar | ksuhku: lol i hosed my system by uninstalling packages x.x |
| 17:35.59 | Zach_ | but Starting web server: apache2apache2: Syntax error on line 207 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: No such file or directory Action 'start' failed. The Apache error log may have more information. failed! |
| 17:36.07 | Zach_ | and now my web doesn't load |
| 17:36.09 | Canar | aptitude is fixing it now :) |
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| 17:36.14 | Canar | (hopefully :x) |
| 17:36.32 | jelly-home | Zach_: touch /etc/apache2/httpd.conf |
| 17:36.46 | Zach_ | jelly-home: what does that do? |
| 17:36.54 | Zach_ | nothing returned |
| 17:36.54 | ninjers | it touches the file |
| 17:37.02 | jelly-home | Zach_: it creates an empty file if none existed |
| 17:37.05 | Zach_ | the file exists, i can see it |
| 17:37.07 | Zach_ | kk |
| 17:37.12 | jelly-home | oh |
| 17:37.15 | ksuhku | Canar, :) |
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| 17:37.45 | Zach_ | restarted |
| 17:37.45 | jelly-home | Zach_: pastebin the complete output of "apache2ctl -S" |
| 17:37.46 | Zach_ | back up |
| 17:37.55 | jelly-home | uh |
| 17:38.03 | jelly-home | oh well, never mind then |
| 17:38.09 | Zach_ | I did /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
| 17:38.11 | Zach_ | kk |
| 17:38.12 | Zach_ | =P |
| 17:38.13 | Zach_ | so now |
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| 17:38.27 | Zach_ | I should do a reboot? |
| 17:38.31 | jelly-home | still with the licking! |
| 17:38.40 | Zach_ | sorry, uncontrollable |
| 17:39.04 | jelly-home | did the dis-upgrade thing finish completely? |
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| 17:42.32 | Zach_ | jelly-home: yes |
| 17:42.40 | Zach_ | jelly-home: and reboot done |
| 17:42.50 | Zach_ | jelly-home: then dud ept-get update and upgrade and all fine |
| 17:42.54 | Zach_ | and site is up no problems |
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| 17:43.02 | Zach_ | but apt-get install openjdk-jdk-7 |
| 17:43.10 | Zach_ | is still not there -.- |
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| 17:43.20 | jelly-home | I think you mean openjdk-7-jdk |
| 17:43.44 | jelly-home | ,v openjdk-7-jdk |
| 17:43.45 | judd | Package: openjdk-7-jdk on i386 -- sid: 7u3-2.1.6-1; wheezy: 7u3-2.1.6-1; experimental: 7u15-2.3.7-1 |
| 17:43.48 | Zach_ | oh my good lord |
| 17:43.49 | Zach_ | yeh |
| 17:43.50 | Zach_ | thanks |
| 17:44.01 | Zach_ | yay installing |
| 17:44.10 | aguitel_ | jelly-home, see that:http://paste.debian.net/239570/ |
| 17:45.34 | jelly-home | aguitel_: looks as if your /var/lib/dpkg/status is corrupted |
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| 17:58.34 | aguitel_ | jelly-home, all is installed ok |
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| 18:01.21 | jhutchins_wk | jelly-home: Do we have some sort of "rebuilddb" command for dpkg/apt? |
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| 18:03.53 | jelly-home | jhutchins_wk: not that I know, but it's a text file. Fix it on your own or copy a backup back... |
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| 18:05.39 | aguitel_ | jelly-home, any tips |
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| 18:07.27 | jelly-home | aguitel_: carefully wipe all the lines from the suspect package, or put a backup back into place |
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| 18:09.06 | azizLIGHTS | how im seeing some kind of log on tty1 |
| 18:09.30 | azizLIGHTS | its complain about Buffer I/O error on device sdc, logical block 1 |
| 18:09.49 | azizLIGHTS | end_request: I/O error, dev sdc, sector 56 |
| 18:09.52 | azizLIGHTS | with different numbers |
| 18:09.56 | azizLIGHTS | repeatedly |
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| 18:10.11 | azizLIGHTS | is this dmesg? |
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| 18:10.46 | azizLIGHTS | its coming up on any tty i switch to with ctrl-alt f2-6 |
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| 18:10.54 | azizLIGHTS | how am i supposed to do anything with this in the way |
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| 18:13.38 | quinten | i'm trying to set up a debian system using debootstrap. I'm following the debian install guide, but i'm running into some issues with the step where i set up devices in /dev/ |
| 18:13.47 | quinten | i installed makedev from the chroot jail |
| 18:14.03 | quinten | cd /dev ; MAKEDEV : udev appears to be running |
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| 18:14.16 | quinten | /etc/init.d/udev restart: /dev/pts is not mounted |
| 18:14.22 | Serverket | Hello. Good afternoon |
| 18:14.29 | quinten | i have some generic devices but not the ones i need such as my hard drives |
| 18:14.47 | Serverket | I have a question, how can I delete old kernels on Debian Wheezy testing |
| 18:14.49 | Serverket | ? |
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| 18:17.06 | aguitel_ | jelly-home, now it say :dpkg: warning: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 11869 package 'libhttp-message-perl': |
| 18:17.07 | aguitel_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:19.47 | jelly-home | aguitel_: that's just a warning. |
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| 18:22.09 | azizLIGHTS | i did "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc" to /dev/sdc becasue i wanted to wipe it. after it finished, i disconnected it and then realized theres no partition on it. now i reconnected it and my computer wont stop saying buffer i/o error. how do i fix this? what do i need to do to get a working sdc with ext4 partition |
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| 18:22.39 | reavengr1y | Hi, how can I go about restarting an X server session? |
| 18:22.48 | reavengr1y | From the command line |
| 18:22.50 | Serverket | I have a question, how can I delete old kernels on Debian Wheezy testing?* |
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| 18:23.14 | Towzzer | you disconnected it from the computer while it was on and when you reconnected it, it came back? |
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| 18:24.39 | maxped | i am having trouble getting a keybinding to work on a raspberry pi, which is where i started for info. then to openbox, lxde, now here. i have a simple code that will not work. when the dm restarts i get an error on a line i dont touch. i added lines 261-267, error is on line 302 http://paste.debian.net/239469/ |
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| 18:25.27 | Towzzer | parted /dev/sdc mklabel msdos; parted /dev/sdc mkpart primary ext4 1 -1;mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdc1 |
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| 18:27.48 | ksuhku | reavengr1y, try as super user /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 18:28.11 | azizLIGHTS | Towzzer: i disconnected it when dd finished |
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| 18:28.28 | azizLIGHTS | Towzzer: when i reocnnected it i didnt see anything in fdisk -l about it |
| 18:28.33 | _martin | when using checkinstall i get /usr/bin/sensible-pager: No such file or directory |
| 18:28.44 | _martin | in which package is sensible-pager included? |
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| 18:29.03 | Towzzer | aziz, maybe it got reassigned to another device |
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| 18:29.38 | ksuhku | _martin, I believe sensible-utils |
| 18:29.48 | _martin | thanks |
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| 18:30.22 | _martin | I also get rev. command not found 0o |
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| 18:33.45 | ksuhku | _martin, that's in util-linux |
| 18:33.54 | _martin | thanks |
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| 18:37.40 | ksuhku | _martin, for future reference, apt-file will perform that service too |
| 18:38.15 | brontosaurusrex | cli file manager other than mc ? |
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| 18:38.30 | _martin | good to know |
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| 18:39.16 | wsky | brontosaurusrex: apt-cache search manager | grep file |
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| 18:39.37 | RichardC | Hello! Where is the proper directory to save changes to Xorg's config? |
| 18:39.49 | redim | brontosaurusrex: ranger |
| 18:39.59 | wsky | brontosaurusrex: ytree and vfu |
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| 18:40.02 | redim | (although there isn't anything as good as mc imho) |
| 18:40.05 | brontosaurusrex | redim, yep! |
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| 18:40.11 | brontosaurusrex | thanks |
| 18:41.47 | ksuhku | RichardC, you can put it pretty much where you want! see man xorg.conf |
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| 18:44.14 | RichardC | ksuhku: should /etc/X11/Xorg.conf.d/99-local.conf work? |
| 18:44.35 | ksuhku | RichardC, I believe it should |
| 18:44.47 | RichardC | ksuhku: Thanks! |
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| 18:45.11 | aguitel_ | how Disable automated updates (and notifications) in Debian with terminal? |
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| 18:46.31 | ksuhku | RichardC, you're welcome |
| 18:46.39 | RichardC | Now for the next question: Can anyone recommend a tool for benchmarking the improvements of enabling SNA? |
| 18:46.55 | RichardC | Preferrably something lightweight. |
| 18:48.34 | ani_ | Hi, I wish to apply for gsoc and I am looking for projects on writing or improving automated tests / unit testing in python. Can anyone help me with this? |
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| 18:51.22 | |thunder | Hi. Just upgraded from squeeze to wheezy. Not really feeling Unity. I was previously using Compiz with Avant-Window-Navigator. How can I go back to this setup on gdm3 ? |
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| 18:51.49 | |thunder | !nounity |
| 18:52.45 | redim | |thunder: there is no compiz in Wheezy either. |
| 18:52.56 | |thunder | WHAT !?!!!! |
| 18:53.09 | |thunder | I can't install compiz on wheeze? Srsly ? |
| 18:53.19 | |thunder | This is terrible news |
| 18:53.39 | Devastator | ,versions compiz |
| 18:53.41 | judd | Package: compiz on i386 -- lenny: 0.7.6-7; squeeze: 0.8.4-4; sid: 0.8.4-5.2; experimental: 0.9.2.1+git20110226.f059fae9-4 |
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| 18:54.21 | |thunder | That makes absolutely zero sense |
| 18:54.33 | Devastator | check bugtrack to see why it was removed |
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| 18:56.24 | Devastator | |thunder http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677864 |
| 18:57.43 | |thunder | Yeah, reading it now. So, basically, it's all politics. Because the project has no maintainter |
| 18:57.55 | ani_ | hi all |
| 18:58.37 | Devastator | well, a project needs a maintainer, don't think it's politics |
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| 18:59.48 | |thunder | time to brute force it down wheezy's throat |
| 18:59.53 | ani_ | I want to apply for Gsoc this year and am looking for a good gsoc project. I have good Knowledge of Python, pytest, unit testing framework, code coverage. Is there any project related to writing/Improving automated tests, unit testing. Can anyone help me with this? |
| 19:00.00 | |thunder | Thanks for all of your help |
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| 19:00.59 | Devastator | yw |
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| 19:01.57 | |thunder | because your user is not in the video group maybe ? |
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| 19:27.11 | geggam_ | rm -rf ${715GB} takes some time |
| 19:27.26 | geggam_ | remember that when they are knocking |
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| 19:45.03 | sevenfourk | hi fellas! Not sure what could cause the problem, but the thing is: I got my debian testing completly hanged for about 3 days in a row, no magic key, nothing responds, I think that's because of flash plugin, but could not dig anything in logs as it leaves my nothing, and I had to shut down my laptop pressing power button, anyone experiencing or maybe heard/read what could that be or maybe recent news/announcements which I hadn't see? |
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| 19:55.02 | sevenfourk | it seems like it comsumes all the RAM and my system hangs, but that obviously not happend before |
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| 20:01.48 | xXSe7enXx | hi.. why cant I mount my hard drive partitions that are EXT4 using Dolphin, it says Authentication is Required |
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| 20:09.01 | kriebz_ | why are you using a marine mammal to mount filesystems? |
| 20:09.40 | xXSe7enXx | good point :P |
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| 20:10.01 | xXSe7enXx | better than a name that starts with K I guess |
| 20:11.19 | kriebz_ | oh, it's the new KDE file manager |
| 20:12.49 | xXSe7enXx | wouldnt say "new" but yea |
| 20:12.51 | kriebz_ | you probably need to set it up to allow users to mount things with certain restrictions under /media |
| 20:13.02 | kriebz_ | KDE 4 is new, son |
| 20:13.11 | xXSe7enXx | O.o |
| 20:13.17 | xXSe7enXx | it's almost KDE 5 |
| 20:13.25 | kriebz_ | what? |
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| 20:13.26 | kriebz_ | ugh |
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| 20:13.38 | kriebz_ | they didn't even finish 3 |
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| 20:13.49 | xXSe7enXx | *shrugs* |
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| 20:14.30 | kriebz_ | just mount stuff by hand from a terminal and be done with it. users can't mount anything by default, anyway |
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| 20:15.27 | xXSe7enXx | well that'd be too much of a hustle , I would like it to just request the root password and mount them |
| 20:17.10 | kriebz_ | sounds like it should be but isn't. post to the dolphin mailing list, or find a distro where that feautre works and compare them |
| 20:17.39 | kriebz_ | make sure whatever the KDE version of gksudo is called is installed |
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| 20:18.38 | BenNZ | xXSe7enXx: are you a member of the plugdev group? , and i thought kde uses ksudo |
| 20:18.52 | kriebz_ | also, if this is like an external USB hard drive, you can learn how to set up automount, add one line to /etc/fstab, and your system will mount the disk whenever you plug it in, weather you're using a DE or not |
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| 20:19.36 | ompaul | kriebz_: I've got it the question in #kde |
| 20:19.58 | xXSe7enXx | *violent facepalm* |
| 20:20.02 | xXSe7enXx | OFCS! |
| 20:20.11 | xXSe7enXx | kdesudo |
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| 20:21.47 | kriebz_ | yeah, without that, programs just can't ask for your password to elevate themselves |
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| 20:23.44 | xXSe7enXx | just issues kdesudo dolphin & and .. what a surprise .. it mounts |
| 20:24.06 | xXSe7enXx | BUT it doesnt when I start dolphin as a normal user |
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| 20:24.47 | kriebz_ | oh, so you're runnign the whole thing... did you see what BenNZ said? make sure you're in plugdev |
| 20:24.58 | kriebz_ | open a new konsole window and type `groups` |
| 20:25.29 | xXSe7enXx | sorry I missed that |
| 20:25.36 | xXSe7enXx | I'm checking that |
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| 20:26.10 | xXSe7enXx | it says : se7en root |
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| 20:26.48 | xXSe7enXx | I have some serious grouping to do |
| 20:27.05 | kriebz_ | you're in group root?... that's odd to say the least. it shuold be something like "se7en cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev" |
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| 20:27.22 | kriebz_ | (from my brand-new wheezy install) |
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| 20:28.38 | ompaul | kriebz_: frankenwhatsit solusos |
| 20:29.12 | kriebz_ | what? |
| 20:29.14 | ompaul | xXSe7enXx: if you ran debian you would at least have sensible defaults :) |
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| 20:29.30 | yvw | Hello, hello trying to enable gpu and hardware acceleration for video on debian squeeze. What should be the xorg.conf settings? |
| 20:29.54 | BenNZ | yvw: it would depend on your gpu |
| 20:30.05 | xXSe7enXx | ompaul, noticed so :P |
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| 20:30.23 | yvw | I have a intel 945 gpu |
| 20:30.48 | kriebz | then you already should have the best settings you're going to get out of the box |
| 20:31.07 | ompaul | !volunteers |
| 20:31.07 | dpkg | Volunteers are people who do things for you for free. All the helpers on #debian are volunteers. Please treat them with respect and don't expect them to follow your orders. Insulting them or the things that they have worked hard to create is not a good way of getting help. |
| 20:31.16 | yvw | kriebz: The intel 945 program is not in system settings. |
| 20:31.24 | ompaul | which is not what I wanted |
| 20:31.28 | ompaul | head desks |
| 20:31.34 | ompaul | searches the bot |
| 20:31.41 | ompaul | dpkg patdown |
| 20:31.41 | dpkg | ompaul: I give up, what is it? |
| 20:32.01 | Towzzer | wait wait, I paid a site www.debiansupport.ru $100 |
| 20:32.04 | Towzzer | and they said I would get answers here |
| 20:32.12 | ompaul | dpkg based on debian |
| 20:32.13 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 20:32.54 | kriebz | yvw: I don't know what that means, but run `grep Intel /var/log/Xorg.0.log` and see what comes up |
| 20:33.00 | ompaul | Towzzer: can I say take it up with them :) |
| 20:33.45 | Towzzer | well they were russians and they had me mail non-sequential unmarked $20s to them |
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| 20:35.11 | yvw | kriebz: Here is the output: http://pastebin.com/Ma4vypGy |
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| 20:35.51 | yvw | kriebz: Please take a look |
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| 20:42.35 | yvw | kriebz: Where is xorg.conf in debian 6.0.7? |
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| 20:44.58 | ompaul | yvw: have a look in /etc/X11 did you know you don't need an xorg.conf these days unless you want to do something strange with your config |
| 20:45.14 | ompaul | (most of the time or you have a difficult card) |
| 20:45.35 | yvw | ompaul: Yes, I heard that xorg is no longer put in /etc/X11 directory |
| 20:46.16 | ompaul | yvw: I don't have one and I run intel with a 21 inch |
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| 20:47.03 | Deele | hi |
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| 20:48.12 | yvw | ompaul: Can you tell me how to enable gpu acceleration ? Here is a log of xorg.log http://pastebin.com/Ma4vypGy |
| 20:48.13 | ompaul | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:48.28 | ompaul | can you get intel to do gpu acceleration? |
| 20:48.40 | ompaul | I thought it was the domain of nvidia mostly |
| 20:48.43 | Deele | what permissions should have /opt directory, if it is intended to be "Add-on application software packages ", as I understand, they should be accessed by other users than root |
| 20:48.53 | ahiliation | xorg.conf can be created using Xorg |
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| 20:52.37 | frikinz | Deele: so .. like /bin |
| 20:52.38 | jhutchins_wk | ompaul: "acceleration" is pretty loosely defined. Acceptable 3D performance is probably a better criterion, and yes Intel can do that. |
| 20:52.42 | ElDiabolo | Hi. Are there any chances gdm 2.22 will make it back into wheezy ? I am asking because Gnome 3.4 seems to not have a working multiseat yet. This http://blog.startupanywhere.org/multiseat-linux-on-debian-wheezy/ guy actually backported gdm 2. |
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| 20:53.43 | Deele | frikinz but if I'm not root, I'm user deele, I cann't use /opt that is restricted to root only |
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| 20:54.03 | ElDiabolo | Oops, should be foreported or the like :) |
| 20:54.05 | Deele | frikinz sorry for dumb questions, I'm learning :) |
| 20:54.14 | ompaul | jhutchins_wk: I've spent the last few minutes digging around was discovering this, to me gpus were for doing maths but hey seems they do graphics etc ;-) yvw http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.0/doc/i810.4.html |
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| 20:54.42 | Pei | what do i do when i re-install dovecot but also want the erased config files replaced? |
| 20:54.44 | Pei | Not replacing deleted config file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf |
| 20:54.54 | Pei | from apt-get |
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| 20:55.45 | nkuttler | !tell Pei about confmiss |
| 20:55.48 | ompaul | Pei: backup the existing and drop them back as you need them? you can either revert to an initial install setup |
| 20:55.50 | ompaul | oh |
| 20:55.57 | BenNZ | trying to setup autologin with a user timeout , it autologins ok , but i cant enable the timer i have uncommented autologin-user-timeout=10 , this is my /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf , http://paste.debian.net/239599/ , anyone know what im doing wrong? |
| 20:55.58 | ompaul | is sliding away ;-) |
| 20:56.53 | frikinz | Deele: fine, there's no dumb questions ;-) |
| 20:57.34 | Pei | hrm, still says Not replacing deleted config file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf |
| 20:57.42 | Pei | when i run aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall dovecot-common |
| 20:57.45 | jhutchins_wk | I guess the two questions about acceleration are "from what" and "to what"? |
| 20:58.03 | ompaul | jhutchins_wk: yes, that makes it a tad clearer |
| 20:58.05 | jhutchins_wk | !confmiss |
| 20:58.06 | dpkg | You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>. |
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| 20:58.21 | ElDiabolo | n8 |
| 20:59.12 | Deele | frikinz you see, I want to install a CollabNet Subversion Edge, and it suggests that I do not untar it using root or sudo, "that will cause UID/GID on the files to carry the values from our build system instead of being reset." http://www.collab.net/downloads/subversion#tab-1 |
| 20:59.14 | nkuttler | Pei: that file doesn't seem to be in the package |
| 20:59.26 | Pei | what file |
| 20:59.30 | Pei | dovecot.conf ? |
| 20:59.33 | Pei | of course it is |
| 20:59.34 | nkuttler | Pei: /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf |
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| 20:59.46 | nkuttler | Pei: not on my debian system |
| 20:59.57 | Deele | frikinz and it orders to switch to folder /opt and then untar, but I get to thinking, how I will untar without sudo/root, if I have no permissions to modify /opt contents |
| 21:00.07 | ompaul | Pei: was it hand built? |
| 21:00.11 | Pei | no |
| 21:00.20 | ompaul | the install of dovecot |
| 21:00.27 | ompaul | the initial one |
| 21:00.29 | nkuttler | it must be generated somehow |
| 21:00.48 | Pei | no |
| 21:00.50 | nkuttler | !find /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf |
| 21:01.07 | ompaul | comon bot you can do it |
| 21:01.16 | nkuttler | got a msg.. |
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| 21:01.38 | nkuttler | apt-file returns nothing, neither does dpkg -S |
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| 21:02.18 | nkuttler | and grep \.conf /var/lib/dpkg/info/dovecot-* |
| 21:02.36 | frikinz | Deele: if you neither have su nor sudo then.. your home directory |
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| 21:03.21 | Deele | frikinz you mean, I untar that inside my home directory, su to root and then continue install? |
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| 21:04.21 | frikinz | Deele: I'm not sure I understand what you want to do. do you have a source software? Are you admin of this machine? |
| 21:05.21 | Deele | frikinz ah, never mind, I start to no not-understand it by myself... |
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| 21:06.05 | frikinz | Deele: one usually get software as source file. ./configure; make; sudo make install. the last one will by default install binaries produced in /usr/local/* |
| 21:06.11 | angs | I have a device that runs linux and stores files on a SD card. the first partition of the card stores u-boot and has Aux3 fs. I see the first partition on /dev/mmcblk0p1 but I cannot use mount command. is it possible to mount Aux3 fs? btw, debian has ext3 fs |
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| 21:12.51 | kriebz | oh I wander off and that guy finally gets back to me, but then leaves |
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| 21:14.00 | mumpitzel | angs: file -s /dev/mmcb.... |
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| 21:14.42 | kriebz | I have no idea what an aux3 fs is. how did it get there? |
| 21:15.27 | kriebz | I hate freezes. Sid it is, then! |
| 21:16.23 | dvs | why not wheezy? |
| 21:16.38 | mumpitzel | cause he hates freezes |
| 21:16.57 | homes_ | why does he hate freezes? |
| 21:17.22 | dvs | meh. Wheezy and sid ain't much different right now. |
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| 21:17.42 | kriebz | because testing doesn't get any updates, so it goes from 6 months out of date to a year out of date |
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| 21:17.56 | kriebz | I want to play with btrfs and Xen 4.2 |
| 21:18.03 | nkuttler | wheezy gets more updates atm than sid for me |
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| 21:19.39 | kriebz | probably because maintainers are concentrating on the freeze, which is a good thing |
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| 21:26.57 | naptastic | I'm using make-kpkg (like a good Debian user ;) to compile a kernel. How do I pass custom compile flags? |
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| 21:27.27 | dizzylizzy | Wait, so... the stable is Squeeze and Wheezy is in freeze? |
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| 21:27.34 | dizzylizzy | there has to be a joke in there somewhere |
| 21:27.40 | dvs | yes |
| 21:27.50 | dvs | geez! |
| 21:27.57 | dvs | third base |
| 21:27.57 | reavengrey | zzz |
| 21:27.58 | dizzylizzy | ;) |
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| 21:29.42 | kriebz | naptastic: possibly just pass them to make-kpkg? |
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| 21:30.37 | naptastic | hmm |
| 21:31.04 | dn4 | I tried the Debian Wheezy install and now I am getting issues; lightdm-gtk-gre Tainted: 3.2.0-686-pae #1 Debian 3.2.35-2 |
| 21:32.04 | kriebz | dn4: what is this preventing? you might just need to wait a day or two for a bug to be fixed |
| 21:32.40 | dn4 | kriebz: it won't boot up my system |
| 21:32.52 | dn4 | figured i'd report in what happened |
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| 21:33.15 | kriebz | dn4: I'm sure your system is booted. lightdm is an X display manager |
| 21:33.21 | kriebz | ctrl-alt-F1 |
| 21:33.55 | dn4 | kriebz: it locks up the keyboard and the system freezes up |
| 21:34.47 | kriebz | oh.... boot to single user mode, disable lightdm at that runlevel, and try booting again? |
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| 21:36.36 | dn4 | kriebz: how do I do that |
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| 21:37.01 | kriebz | when you see the grub menu, or a prompt to press a key to get to the grub menu, press the key, then select "recovery" |
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| 21:38.10 | codekK | hi all |
| 21:38.30 | codekK | someone use openbox with tiling?? |
| 21:39.05 | kriebz | ooh, I do use openbox, too lazy to play around with any tiling, just the defaults |
| 21:39.36 | dn4 | ok I uninstalled lightdm |
| 21:40.07 | kriebz | dn4: if you're at the root prompt, just type `init 2` to go to multi-user (i.e. normal running) |
| 21:40.32 | dn4 | the mtp probe failed |
| 21:40.35 | dn4 | hmmm |
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| 21:41.11 | dn4 | kriebz: I tried init 2 and nothing shows up now |
| 21:41.13 | dn4 | any ideas |
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| 21:42.10 | kriebz | I have no idea what an mtp probe is; you might have somethign wrong with your computer. nothing is supposed to happen |
| 21:42.14 | nkuttler | codekK: do you have a specific question? |
| 21:42.18 | kriebz | you just don't have an X display manager |
| 21:42.38 | kriebz | dn4: log out from the root account and log in as yourself |
| 21:43.45 | codekK | nkuttler, yes i have installed now openbox and pytyle to get a tiling effect... but it only run with keyboard (ctrl + C) and i want tiling like gnome. With mouse auto adjust |
| 21:43.58 | codekK | (sry for bad english) |
| 21:44.01 | dn4 | kriebz: what should I install to get the x display manager working |
| 21:44.06 | dn4 | instead of lightdm |
| 21:44.49 | kriebz | codekK: I don't think that's what it's supposed to do. you probably want compiz or something |
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| 21:45.10 | kriebz | dn4: you can try gdm3, I guess? |
| 21:45.21 | kriebz | or just type "startx" after logging in |
| 21:45.23 | nkuttler | codekK: sorry, no idea what that means |
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| 21:46.57 | codekK | i want this -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0rTIKM43ug (min 0.50) |
| 21:47.07 | dn4 | kriebz: I just did apt-cache search gdm |
| 21:47.09 | dn4 | and got nothing |
| 21:47.13 | dn4 | damn package manager |
| 21:47.37 | jacksmithz | wheezy only has gdm3 |
| 21:48.27 | kriebz | run apt-get update and try again. (?) |
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| 21:48.38 | maxped | i am having trouble getting a keybinding to work on a raspberry pi, which is where i started for info. then to openbox, lxde, now here. i have a simple code that will not work. when the dm restarts i get an error on a line i dont touch. i added lines 261-267, error is on line 302 http://paste.debian.net/239469/ |
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| 21:51.22 | dn4 | kriebz: is there a list of apt sources for wheezy |
| 21:51.44 | zhvtar | maxped: first thing i would do is take out the changes you made. then restart see what happens. |
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| 21:52.53 | maxped | zhvtar: evertything works then, this is a stock install and im just adding the one bit |
| 21:52.56 | kriebz | dn4: I'm sure there's a way to get one, but I don't know what that is off the top of my head. http://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList |
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| 21:54.04 | cooldude | hi guys, i have a issue with archey on debian on some of my boxs |
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| 21:54.30 | cooldude | the issue i am getting is when i run archey, it is complaining that there is no file systems processed |
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| 21:54.54 | maxped | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.01 | kriebz | codekK: that video shows a feature in XFCE4 that needs a version newer than what's in Debian Sid. You'd need to see if it's in a backport, or maybe see if you can aproximate it with Compiz, which would be very involved for anyone to explain to you |
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| 21:55.54 | cooldude | http://pastebin.com/xMm4aAre <- this is the exact error it gives |
| 21:56.22 | ghoti | So ... what's the difference between qt4 and gtk20? Are they different widget sets, different libraries, what? If I have a choice of building an app using one vs the other, how do I decide which I should pick? |
| 21:56.33 | codekK | kriebz, i know it but i want it with openbox |
| 21:57.16 | zhvtar | maxped: line 262: missing '=' |
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| 21:58.08 | cooldude | so if someone can help me with my problem i posted above it would be appreciated. Thanks! |
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| 21:59.10 | maxped | zhvtar: i made the change and will restart, not sure how i missed that but.... we will see.. |
| 22:00.33 | zhvtar | cooldude: where did you install archey from? what version debian? sid/squeeze/wheezy? |
| 22:00.49 | cooldude | zhvtar, squeeze |
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| 22:01.58 | frikinz | cooldude: what does df gives on this syustem? the script is broken as it doesn't check that there is at least one line |
| 22:01.59 | maxped | zhvtar: im a dumbA**. thanks for the proff read, i will leave with tail between my legs lol |
| 22:02.06 | maxped | zhvtar: thanks again |
| 22:02.15 | cooldude | and zhvtar, i installed archey from a .deb file |
| 22:02.26 | cooldude | and df works on the system when i perform it |
| 22:02.43 | zhvtar | maxped: glad I could help. |
| 22:03.15 | zhvtar | cooldude: archey uses python to get info. double check to make sure you have all depends installed... |
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| 22:03.28 | cooldude | zhvtar, hmm |
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| 22:04.01 | frikinz | cooldude: even if df works, there are cases where it will make this script crash. what is your df output? |
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| 22:04.45 | cooldude | frikinz, i will post all the servers df output VIA the pastebin |
| 22:05.41 | cooldude | http://pastebin.com/hJE2Cc3C |
| 22:05.48 | cooldude | their frikinz |
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| 22:07.03 | frikinz | sorry df -T |
| 22:07.06 | boudiccas | ,v archey |
| 22:07.07 | judd | No package named 'archey' was found in i386. |
| 22:07.23 | frikinz | cooldude: on the server where it doesn't work is enough |
| 22:07.42 | frikinz | cooldude: df -T |
| 22:08.00 | cooldude | frikinz, i did df -T on all servers where archey does not work and it works |
| 22:08.10 | cooldude | there was no errors that spitted back out to me |
| 22:08.44 | cooldude | like when i ran df -T on all servers frikinz, it did not have any errors |
| 22:08.50 | cooldude | maybe i dont have a python module installed |
| 22:08.52 | cooldude | :| |
| 22:08.54 | frikinz | but the script has |
| 22:09.00 | cooldude | yes |
| 22:09.03 | cooldude | the script has errors |
| 22:09.08 | frikinz | i asked for the df -T OUTPUT not if it has errors! |
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| 22:09.22 | frikinz | yes, its a hack |
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| 22:10.31 | cooldude | http://pastebin.com/VUUwqpWr <- that is the EXACT log of output drik |
| 22:10.34 | cooldude | er |
| 22:10.37 | cooldude | frikinz* |
| 22:10.58 | frikinz | yes, so it will crash in your case |
| 22:11.07 | frikinz | simfs. what's that |
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| 22:11.38 | cooldude | frikinz, well ya, maybe the script crashes when it does that |
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| 22:12.45 | frikinz | cooldude: search line containing ext2 and add '-t','simfs' |
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| 22:13.17 | cooldude | frikinz, in the /usr/bin/archey script? |
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| 22:13.56 | frikinz | cooldude: yes |
| 22:14.03 | cooldude | aight |
| 22:14.13 | zerooneone | what's the recommended way of restarting newtorking in squeeze? /etc/init.d/networking restart was always the way i did it. i'm obviously out of the loop... |
| 22:15.02 | cooldude | frikinz, thanks it works |
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| 22:17.56 | frikinz | zerooneone: what's wront with this command? |
| 22:18.32 | cooldude | now frikinz, another problem i have is that one of my VPS companies forced me to move one of my VPS's to a new node, and along with that archey error the bashrc does not perform uname -a and the " The programs included with the Debian blah " crap |
| 22:18.46 | frikinz | zerooneone: it will set off all defined interfaces but only start again the ones marked auto. you should only take care of this if you're talking about the warning |
| 22:19.03 | zerooneone | frikinz: it doesn't work and "Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces" |
| 22:19.25 | cooldude | ***now frikinz, another problem i have is that one of my VPS companies forced me to move one of my VPS's to a new node of theirs, and along with that archey error the bashrc does not perform uname -a and the " The programs included with the Debian blah " crap |
| 22:19.29 | frikinz | zerooneone: doesn't work like how? |
| 22:20.08 | cooldude | and it does that frikinz whenever i connect to that server on a new SSH connection |
| 22:20.30 | frikinz | cooldude: you've put this hack in .bashrc? |
| 22:20.40 | cooldude | frikinz, no |
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| 22:21.11 | cooldude | i did however rsynced the .bashrc that was on my old VPS on their old node, and the .bashrc file looks the same |
| 22:21.18 | cooldude | frikinz, ^ |
| 22:21.33 | cooldude | and frikinz, would it work if i rebooted the box..? |
| 22:21.37 | zerooneone | ok nm frikinz i marked them auto now. thanks. i've trapped in a centos world for a while. it's good to be back in the debian fold |
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| 22:22.31 | frikinz | cooldude: .bashrc is what gets executed when you open a shell so rebooting is not really linked to your problem |
| 22:22.44 | cooldude | nod |
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| 22:23.28 | cooldude | how would i fix that problem frikinz, because i really want to see uname -a and the " The programs included with the Debian blah " crap |
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| 22:25.52 | frikinz | motd. humm |
| 22:26.12 | frikinz | cooldude: what do you have in /etc/motd on this server? |
| 22:26.24 | cooldude | frikinz, looking |
| 22:26.38 | cooldude | cooldude@blackhole:~$ cat /etc/motd |
| 22:26.38 | cooldude | cat: /etc/motd: No such file or directory |
| 22:26.57 | cooldude | wait |
| 22:27.01 | cooldude | i see motd in /etc/ |
| 22:28.26 | cooldude | wait |
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| 22:29.13 | cooldude | http://pastebin.com/Cp5SQSgF <- i do have all that in /etc/motd frikinz |
| 22:29.28 | cooldude | but it is not showing up in the .bashrc on a new ssh connection |
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| 22:30.54 | cooldude | no wait |
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| 22:31.05 | cooldude | i'm confused frikinz, that was on my old server lol.. |
| 22:31.08 | cooldude | my bad |
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| 22:35.59 | cooldude | nvm frikinz, i fixed it myself |
| 22:36.04 | cooldude | and understand it now |
| 22:36.06 | cooldude | thanks though |
| 22:36.17 | frikinz | you're welcome! :) |
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| 22:45.41 | nvz | does anyone know how to either show a ruler or page break lines in libreoffice? (wheezy) |
| 22:46.06 | nvz | trying to make something in the spreadsheet but can't visualize the page size while doing it |
| 22:46.44 | abrotman | print preview? |
| 22:47.01 | nkuttler | nvz: there's also some page view mode |
| 22:47.11 | nvz | abrotman: yeah well obviously :-P I'm just sure there is an option in here somewhere to put up a dotted line in the document itself while you're working |
| 22:47.29 | nvz | I've seen it before.. maybe in MS Office.. I'm sure its doable somehow |
| 22:48.02 | abrotman | starts it to see |
| 22:48.15 | nkuttler | yeah, it's in the view menu and has page in it |
| 22:48.24 | nvz | pretty sure excel does that by default |
| 22:48.28 | abrotman | no |
| 22:49.16 | nvz | I tried that "page break preview" but it just makes everything gray and doesnt seem to indicate to me anything about page breaks |
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| 22:49.49 | nvz | I don't want a preview mode I'd like to know at all times when I'm looking at my document where my margins are.. either with a ruler or a visual line of some kind |
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| 22:50.26 | nvz | like you'd have in the gimp or the writer program.. its just not in the calc program.. |
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| 22:50.55 | abrotman | nvz: might want to ask the libreoffice channel |
| 22:50.58 | nvz | why the ruler isn't there I have no idea.. heh.. I may just throw a table in writer |
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| 22:51.28 | nvz | I'm making an invoice template.. so I suppose it can be done in either.. I just like spreadsheet apps better |
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| 22:54.23 | nvz | Yeah I didn't know offhand where to ask questions about it.. just thought someone might have known.. not a big deal.. I'll figure something out.. |
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| 23:37.01 | Pei | if i mess up a packages configuration and i want to re-install the whole packaage, config files and all, like i don't eben want it to know i had previously had the package installed, how would i remove it and reinstall it like that |
| 23:37.16 | tuvwx | what is the easiest way to get iceweasel to use firefox's original icon? or is it easier to just install firefox? |
| 23:37.23 | tuvwx | HATES iceweasel's icon |
| 23:37.48 | Towzzer | apt-get purge |
| 23:38.12 | ScabbyMadman | tuvwx use the main menu program from the System > preferences menu |
| 23:39.33 | tuvwx | ScabbyMadman: what's its name? i'm not running gnome |
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| 23:40.02 | ScabbyMadman | tuvwx, hmm so youre using which window manager then |
| 23:40.18 | tuvwx | ScabbyMadman: openbox |
| 23:40.18 | ScabbyMadman | k |
| 23:40.19 | tuvwx | alacarte? |
| 23:40.19 | Pei | thanks |
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| 23:41.23 | tuvwx | ScabbyMadman: does the menu program change the icon everywhere or just in the menu? |
| 23:41.42 | ScabbyMadman | tuvwx, try slscsrte from a shell prompt and see if it is installed -- but it may be gnome specific |
| 23:41.56 | ScabbyMadman | tuvw` sorry alacarte |
| 23:42.12 | ScabbyMadman | tuvwx sorry alacarte |
| 23:42.21 | themill | tuvwx: if the iceweasel icon is the most trouble you have in your life, then just sit back and bask contentedly in how damned good life must be |
| 23:42.36 | ScabbyMadman | themill, lol |
| 23:42.44 | LV-426 | tuvwx, just overwrite the icon... to find image resources in a package: dpkg -L iceweasel | egrep -e 'ico|gif|png' |
| 23:43.03 | tuvwx | ScabbyMadman: nope.. does not change the icon in the program |
| 23:43.27 | ScabbyMadman | it will if you have it and dig deep enough --see the properties |
| 23:43.53 | dn4 | does anyone know where the config files for the network manager is located |
| 23:43.56 | tuvwx | LV-426: there are many of them. i once tried to track them all down and overwrite them, and still kept getting the blue icon |
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| 23:44.34 | tuvwx | themill: i'm so miserable that this is all i feel i *should* have control over. the rest is hopeless |
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| 23:44.53 | ScabbyMadman | in the programme --- well you could see whats in the iceweasel folder and which icon it picks up whether its in the /usr/share/pixmape or the iceweasel folder |
| 23:45.14 | themill | tuvwx: no other program on your box lets you change the icon like that. |
| 23:45.47 | dn4 | how do I get the command shell to page information |
| 23:45.59 | ScabbyMadman | so 32 or 64 bit? I upgraded to a 64 bit processor but should I only install a 64 bit debian or use the 32 bit version which will run faster? |
| 23:46.02 | dn4 | iwlist scan has to many connections and I cannot read that fast |
| 23:46.23 | ScabbyMadman | dn4 iwlist | less |
| 23:46.24 | tuvwx | i never bothered with trying to change a program's icon. but going from the nice firefox icon to the terrible iceweasel icon is depressing |
| 23:46.39 | mmnicolas | the iceweasel icon is much better okay |
| 23:46.51 | tuvwx | no it's not |
| 23:46.54 | mmnicolas | a weasel is much more cuter than a fox |
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| 23:46.56 | themill | get a life... |
| 23:47.03 | ScabbyMadman | tuvwx well you could always install firefox |
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| 23:47.41 | wsky | -_- |
| 23:47.56 | LV-426 | dn4, you can also try wicd-cli |
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| 23:49.06 | dn4 | anyone know where the network manager stores the config files for created connection s? |
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| 23:49.31 | wsky | dn4: in $HOME |
| 23:51.03 | dn4 | uh where is that |
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| 23:52.05 | ScabbyMadman | dn4 thats your home directory usually |
| 23:52.21 | themill | dn4: what are you trying to achieve here? |
| 23:52.28 | ScabbyMadman | wsky presented it as a variable |
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| 23:52.58 | dn4 | I'm going to use wpa_supplicant it looks like to connect through console mode using a wireless config file |
| 23:53.23 | dn4 | i'm lazy so I want to find where the network manager stores my config file; so I don't have to guess |
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| 23:54.20 | dn4 | it is network manager website 0.9.4.1 |
| 23:54.33 | dn4 | oops minus the word website |
| 23:54.33 | ScabbyMadman | anyone here rinning a 32 bit debian install on 64 bit hardware? |
| 23:55.11 | phix | yes |
| 23:55.35 | phix | one of my boxes is setup like that |
| 23:55.50 | frikinz | dn4: guess what? network manager and wpa_supplicant probably use different format of config files? |
| 23:56.35 | ScabbyMadman | phix and would you say it runs at least as fast as the 64 bit? |
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| 23:56.37 | phix | remove network manager, it is annoying |
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| 23:57.01 | themill | or "use network manager, it just works". Do one or other, not both. |
| 23:57.27 | dn4 | ok time to remove this network manager then |
| 23:57.38 | frikinz | good idea |
| 23:58.05 | ScabbyMadman | phix and would you say it runs at least as fast as the 64 bit? |
| 23:58.15 | phix | ScabbyMadman: i dont notice any difference, why would i? |
| 23:58.18 | Towzzer | how much memory do you have? |
| 23:58.26 | Towzzer | scabby |
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| 23:58.42 | caf | if you're running 32 bit debian on x86-64 hardware, then you should consider installing the linux-image-amd64 kernel |
| 23:58.43 | wsky | why to remove network manager? it's great for managing wireless networks |
| 23:58.47 | abrotman | Towzzer: scab<tab> |
| 23:58.54 | ScabbyMadman | phix just a question because Im thinking of going back to a 32 bit install is all |
| 23:59.02 | phix | ScabbyMadman: no need to repeat :) i am using a phone touchpad :) |
| 23:59.04 | Towzzer | "freenode'ScabbyMadman" |
| 23:59.07 | wsky | +supports gsm modems |
| 23:59.13 | phix | ScabbyMadman: why? |