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| 00:06.13 | jaggz | but it says it works well with kernel 3.1.1 :/ |
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| 00:09.21 | orudie | hi. Can anyone recommend a proxy server software to install on debian to use it with kvirc ? |
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| 00:15.05 | JmZ | for what reason would "host localhost" resolve to my public ip? |
| 00:15.11 | JmZ | shouldn't it return 127.0.0.1? |
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| 00:19.43 | martxel | orudie: znc |
| 00:19.55 | martxel | it's an irc bouncer |
| 00:20.15 | martxel | you can use irssi as a proxy too |
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| 00:23.19 | orudie | martxel, how about all in out proxy software that I can use with all kinds of applications such as , utorrent, irc, web browser etc ... |
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| 00:24.27 | JmZ | anyone |
| 00:24.52 | JmZ | "host localhost" -> public ip rather than 127.0.0.1. hosts file is correct, what gives? |
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| 00:38.31 | ksuhku | bug: package not mentioned in its copyright file, http://packages.debian.org/sid/palapeli |
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| 00:39.32 | ksuhku | as in, open copyright file, there's no mention of 'palapeli' |
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| 00:43.58 | orudie | I am back from netsplit |
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| 00:54.50 | JmZ | so no ideas about my localhost issue? |
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| 01:00.58 | gynna | http://www.reddit.com/r/AdultDating18/comments/19u89j/italian_amateurs/ |
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| 01:38.43 | dizzylizzy | I know I have 4GB of ram. How can I tell how many sticks of what size are in my computer? |
| 01:38.55 | dizzylizzy | is it somewhere in /proc? |
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| 01:39.21 | peterrooney | less has "less -X" so that you can have a man page remain on your terminal after exiting. What in most affects this? I have two machines exhibiting different behaviours, and can't tell why. |
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| 01:41.01 | peterrooney | to be more specific, the pager 'most' |
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| 01:44.06 | h00k | Hi friends - attempting to get automounting of an ntfs drive - I get warning about ntfs-3g and permissions. It wants to send me here: http://tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-faq/#unprivileged - is ntfs-3g compuled with FUSE support? /cat/boot/$kernelversion | grep fuse shows =m, the module is loaded as shown in lsmod | grep fuse. Any protips? |
| 01:44.15 | ksuhku | dizzylizzy, try as super user dmidecode -t memory |
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| 01:45.54 | dizzylizzy | ksuhku, thank you! 1 4GB stick. |
| 01:46.02 | dizzylizzy | I should buy another :3 |
| 01:46.15 | dizzylizzy | ksuhku, that's a neat command, thanks for showing it to me |
| 01:47.35 | themill | peterrooney: most(1) lists a few environment variables. But man will also respect PAGER, MANPAGER, MANLESS too (see man(1)) |
| 01:48.52 | ksuhku | dizzylizzy, np, note that the man page says the info can't be trusted! |
| 01:50.24 | dizzylizzy | gaaah |
| 01:50.32 | ksuhku | ;) |
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| 01:51.53 | abrotman | !tell dizzylizzy about whats my hardware |
| 01:53.39 | orudie | can someone please give me some hints on how to make my ssh server a proxy server ? I tried ssh -D option from the manual, 'ssh -D 1080 proxy.hostname' |
| 01:55.10 | h00k | orudie: this may help: http://daniel.haxx.se/docs/sshproxy.html |
| 01:55.40 | h00k | Hi friends - attempting to get automounting of an ntfs drive - I get warning about ntfs-3g and permissions. It wants to send me here: http://tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-faq/#unprivileged - is ntfs-3g compuled with FUSE support? /cat/boot/$kernelversion | grep fuse shows =m, the module is loaded as shown in lsmod | grep fuse. Any protips? |
| 01:56.24 | Guest77049 | Would anyone be able to help a noob out? |
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| 01:57.10 | dvs | !ask |
| 01:57.10 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 01:58.28 | abrotman | h00k: less repeat please |
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| 01:58.49 | guest_____ | !ask |
| 01:58.50 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 01:59.54 | guest_____ | I'm trying to download debian onto a usb stick but when I get to the mirror page I have no idea how to download the files |
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| 02:06.35 | orudie | h00k, thanks so much for this guide |
| 02:07.08 | h00k | orudie: cool, glad it helped |
| 02:07.41 | h00k | abrotman: I figured ~10 minutes was alright, but I'll wait longer. |
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| 02:10.07 | pkrzywicki | hi |
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| 02:10.33 | pkrzywicki | anyone has any ideas why I am getting seg fault when I try to upgrade debian to sid |
| 02:10.40 | pkrzywicki | http://pastebin.com/iNZbeGxd |
| 02:10.49 | pkrzywicki | kind of werid |
| 02:11.07 | pkrzywicki | have tried already to remove all .bin from cache/apt |
| 02:11.11 | pkrzywicki | but that did not help |
| 02:11.26 | pkrzywicki | ideas |
| 02:11.27 | pkrzywicki | ? |
| 02:12.21 | abrotman | would think disk or memory issues |
| 02:12.53 | noname001 | hmm I would go for memory in this case disk is brand new |
| 02:13.10 | noname001 | thx abrotman |
| 02:13.30 | phunyguy | jhutchins_wk: I reinstalled with pure KDE, and the update/software manager is called Apper, fyi. |
| 02:13.32 | rwp | Also check for bad cables. I had a bad SATA cable give me instability once. |
| 02:13.39 | abrotman | noname001: brand new disk doesn't mean it's not bad |
| 02:13.57 | abrotman | noname001: rwp has a point, reseat all your RAM and disk cables |
| 02:14.23 | noname001 | abrotman: no this is not an issue I have access to these things and I have already tried a few of them |
| 02:14.26 | noname001 | but agree |
| 02:14.40 | noname001 | new can be also faulty |
| 02:14.53 | abrotman | did you check your syslog/messages? |
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| 02:15.58 | noname001 | yeah seg fault allover the place |
| 02:16.13 | abrotman | related to? |
| 02:16.17 | noname001 | mostly related to 4 in libstdc++.so.6.0.17 |
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| 02:16.33 | noname001 | apt-get[2943]: segfault at fffffffc ip b75b8ebc sp bff47150 error 4 in libstdc++.so.6.0.17[b7503000+e0000] |
| 02:16.35 | noname001 | i.e |
| 02:17.01 | dvs | that looks like out of memory |
| 02:17.31 | abrotman | think he has a 486? |
| 02:17.43 | rwp | Out of memory would not be a segfault. Perhaps OOM. |
| 02:18.02 | rwp | s/OOM/OOM Killer/ |
| 02:18.14 | rwp | cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 02:18.52 | rwp | What does this say: grep model.name /proc/cpuinfo |
| 02:19.02 | noname001 | hhttp://pastebin.com/3kNtwu9Y |
| 02:19.13 | noname001 | model name: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4600 @ 2.40GHz |
| 02:19.26 | noname001 | kind of old |
| 02:19.26 | abrotman | not a 486! |
| 02:19.40 | rwp | Core 2 Duo is a full machine. amd64 capable |
| 02:20.00 | abrotman | noname001: can you pastebin the segfaults from your logs? |
| 02:20.14 | noname001 | sure one sec |
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| 02:24.21 | noname001 | ah shit guys sorry didnt realize it is that late |
| 02:24.23 | noname001 | need to go |
| 02:24.24 | rwp | Upgrading to Sid. From what previous release? |
| 02:24.30 | noname001 | need to get up at 7am |
| 02:24.35 | noname001 | thx for help |
| 02:24.47 | rwp | Good luck! |
| 02:24.52 | noname001 | tsqeeze -> testnig ->sid |
| 02:25.05 | rwp | Should be fine. Have done that many times myself. |
| 02:25.16 | noname001 | me to no idea why this one fails |
| 02:25.18 | noname001 | again thx |
| 02:25.20 | noname001 | need to go |
| 02:25.26 | rwp | Might try booting a live cdrom. |
| 02:26.15 | rwp | noname001, Good night! |
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| 02:32.20 | LV-426 | got an authorative isc-dhcp-server which ignores discover messages on a particular subnet. these are accepted and logged by the fw, but the server completely ignores them. dhcp requests by clients skipping discovery are handled fine... any clue? |
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| 02:47.39 | seeker61 | i have several pidgin to choose from which should i install |
| 02:48.21 | abrotman | you sohuld have one |
| 02:49.01 | seeker61 | abrotman: already installed? |
| 02:49.15 | abrotman | how would i know what you've installed |
| 02:49.39 | Towzzer | this reminds me of the pidgin hole principal |
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| 02:50.05 | seeker61 | so which is better pidgin or xchat |
| 02:50.13 | abrotman | for what? |
| 02:50.20 | seeker61 | irc |
| 02:50.27 | dvs | xchat |
| 02:50.48 | tharkun | !polls |
| 02:50.48 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a good question that IRC helpers can answer. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls>. |
| 02:51.29 | adh0c | Can anyone help me troubleshoot an awstats install? I have a client whom we just migrated across shared servers, and despite reindexing their log information the awstats graphs are colorless and countries are being listed as 'unknown'... |
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| 02:51.59 | adh0c | File type, operating system and browsers images are also missing. |
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| 02:52.52 | abrotman | did you read teh README? |
| 02:53.16 | adh0c | ... >_> |
| 02:56.52 | peterrooney | The most config file only specifies keybindings and colors. |
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| 02:59.16 | adh0c | I just noticed the %h/awstats_data directory's population are owned by root:root |
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| 03:00.25 | adh0c | Comparing this to another user's awstats_data directory suggests they need to be set to 'root:user'? |
| 03:02.07 | adh0c | But doing so has made no difference... |
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| 05:37.47 | johnfg | hey folks |
| 05:38.28 | johnfg | I used Places/Connect to Server/ssh, to connect to a vpn. |
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| 05:39.05 | johnfg | I want to save a file there, but where is that in the file system, *not* the gnome desktop? |
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| 05:42.43 | scottj | I'd like to encrypt home dir on remote server in case hdd is pulled out, but websites are served out of that home dir and databases are accessed that I'd like to start automatically at boot without me entering a passphrase. Is there a solution? Can ecryptfs decrypt the homedir without me logging in? |
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| 06:18.34 | Cultist | anyone know a search engine or good repository or something for artwork with a free-use license? |
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| 06:20.13 | themill | openclipart? |
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| 06:53.43 | fire | how can i prevent dos and ddos attack on my website ? |
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| 06:54.48 | EmleyMoor | fire: Do you host it yourself or is it on an "external" server? |
| 06:54.55 | amit^ | fire: I'm looking for the same even though I'm only running a gnome dsktop |
| 06:55.00 | fire | EmleyMoor: i host it myself. |
| 06:55.18 | fire | i have made a home server. |
| 06:56.06 | amit^ | fire: what do you use it for? |
| 06:56.21 | fire | file server. |
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| 06:57.06 | EmleyMoor | fire: DDoS is difficult to do much about. Some simple DoS attacks can be blocked by a firewall at your end, but DDoS, and some others, are designed to overwhelm your connection, so you'd need your ISP's help if it happens. If you suspect putting certain content on your server may attract such activity, the simplest solution is not to! |
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| 06:57.44 | adh0c | Does flushing a qmail queue remove all the queued messages or force qmail to attempt to send them again? |
| 06:57.45 | fire | EmleyMoor: hmmm... |
| 06:58.25 | fire | EmleyMoor: is that true that it's very difficult to prevent ddos attacks ? |
| 06:59.17 | EmleyMoor | The D stands for "distributed" - this makes the attack appear to come from multiple directions, maxing it difficult to deal with. |
| 06:59.38 | fire | correct |
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| 07:03.10 | EmleyMoor | As for preventing it, it's hard to prevent *any* kind of crime perpetrated by people you don't know, a long way away |
| 07:06.58 | boudiccas | Cultist: DeviantArt |
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| 07:35.08 | crshbndct | heyo chaps. I have a probably very easy question. where can i download a debian testing iso from in australia/nz? |
| 07:35.35 | crshbndct | there dont appear to be any links anywhere on the site to any servers which give me more than 20kb/s |
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| 08:08.38 | halpdesk | Hello - what package should I install if I want to get a local NTP-server (which I assume is the correct way to sync) |
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| 08:10.34 | somiaj | ntpd is a basic one |
| 08:10.49 | somiaj | oh guess it is called openntpd |
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| 08:11.20 | somiaj | do you want to be an NTP server or just keep your clocs in sync? |
| 08:12.16 | halpdesk | I want to keep clocks in sync |
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| 08:12.34 | somiaj | well you can use ntpdate (But that has be run each time you want to resync) |
| 08:12.42 | somiaj | or use the openntpd daemon, which is probabaly what you want |
| 08:13.10 | halpdesk | Yes, but it says "no servers can be used, exiting" |
| 08:13.17 | halpdesk | where do I set servers? |
| 08:13.33 | halpdesk | I will try openntpd though |
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| 08:16.34 | somiaj | halpdesk: you have to set the servers, or expictally state which one. 'ntpdate servername' works, you can look up some servers on google |
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| 08:19.32 | mab_ | Hi - I want to run a script when booting into runlevel 3. rc.local is a link, so it is read by all runlevels. Do I have to make a new valid entry in /etc/rc3.d or is there a quicker way? |
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| 08:23.26 | halpdesk | somiaj: thanks, openntpd worked like a charm |
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| 08:24.15 | somiaj | mab_: if you want to set up differences in runlevels, you do have to configure this |
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| 08:24.36 | somiaj | mab_: you should most likley make your own custom /etc/init.d/script (use the README and skeleton file in /etc/init.d/ as a guide) |
| 08:24.46 | somiaj | mab_: then est up the LSB headers to only be run in runlevel 3 |
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| 08:25.18 | mab_ | scripts are ok. LSB headers? |
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| 08:27.43 | mab_ | ah, ok Linux Standard Base |
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| 08:28.23 | somiaj | they are what update-rc.d uses to create the links in /etc/rc?.d |
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| 08:30.11 | mab_ | somiaj: lsb_release : No LSB modules are available. |
| 08:30.27 | somiaj | not that |
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| 08:31.05 | somiaj | mab_: http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts |
| 08:31.45 | somiaj | again this is just being proper, you can make the scripts crude, but it is nice if they follow standards, things just work smoother |
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| 08:32.43 | mab_ | that's what I tried: crude |
| 08:33.10 | mab_ | wasn't executed |
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| 08:33.49 | somiaj | why are you using multiple runlevels? |
| 08:34.02 | somiaj | (just trying to see if there is another solution to what you want) |
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| 08:36.13 | mab_ | I'm running mirrored system on netbook harddisk if ac power is available. with battery I run from SD card, hdparm -y /dev/sda1, powersave governor, fan off... |
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| 08:37.25 | mab_ | at next boot I rsync the disks |
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| 08:38.01 | mab_ | so from grub I tell kernel to go 3 or 2 |
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| 08:43.34 | mab_ | somiaj: once booted I won't switch runlevels, it's a one shot. No start or stop would be required. just running the script |
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| 08:47.42 | mab_ | somiaj: will go the proper way. Thank you for the link |
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| 09:02.10 | Skaag | I have a raid array in /dev/dm-0 and /dev/dm-1 apparently (new machine I got), what utility will tell me more info about it? it's an aacraid... |
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| 09:08.46 | Woet | I'm getting "WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 16: Device or resource busy." in fdisk, how can I check what it's busy with? It's not mounted and lsof has no mention of it. |
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| 09:10.12 | jelly-home | Woet: no partition on that disk has to be in use; some might be mounted, or used as swap, or MD raid member, or LVM physical volume... |
| 09:11.11 | jelly-home | if any partition is in use, that operation will fail |
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| 09:23.58 | Zeeflo | is anyone here familiar with S3CMD? If so, in the config file (.s3cfg), can I define a default cache in header? (e.g. max-age=blabla) |
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| 09:25.40 | local | how can I check if my kernel is PV compatible for Xen ? |
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| 09:31.03 | local | is there a way to check my system if its capable for para-virtualization support for Xen ? How can I check if it's PV capable ? |
| 09:31.34 | ksuhku | local, wait a sec |
| 09:32.53 | ksuhku | local, it is if this gives output: grep -E 'svm|vmx' /proc/cpuinfo |
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| 09:37.48 | ksuhku | local, actually, that might be for something else... sorry for the noise |
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| 09:47.34 | ksuhku | local, this is probably what you're after grep -i parav /boot/config-`uname -r` |
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| 09:48.11 | local | ksuhku: let me try ... |
| 09:48.50 | local | ksuhku: that's it. Thank you so much |
| 09:49.06 | ksuhku | local, you're welcome |
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| 09:51.20 | menace | hi, can i save more than one version in the morguedir of reprepro? |
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| 10:16.04 | Tinned_Tuna | Heya, I had a Debian install onto an encrypted LVM |
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| 10:16.49 | Tinned_Tuna | it has since stopped booting, but I'm fairly sure some, if not all of the contents are partially recoverable, do I need to cryptsetup the disk first, or do something else with it to open the LVM? |
| 10:17.32 | Tinned_Tuna | It was a debian 6.0 default install, with a default "install to an encrypted LVM" from the Debian installer. |
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| 10:18.54 | bw_ | Tinned_Tuna: cryptsetup first right |
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| 10:19.34 | bw_ | then check [pv,vg,lv]display |
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| 10:20.35 | Tinned_Tuna | bw_: thanks :-) |
| 10:20.49 | Tinned_Tuna | Unfortunately, it looks like cryptsetup luksOpen is having none of it ... |
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| 10:21.51 | bw_ | Tinned_Tuna: hmm :/ maybe you're trying the wrong device |
| 10:22.09 | bw_ | file -s /dev/sdXY should give you some info |
| 10:22.11 | Tinned_Tuna | hang on, I'll pastebin the output of fdisk |
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| 10:24.00 | Tinned_Tuna | bw_: http://pastebin.com/y8DZPEzh |
| 10:24.11 | Tinned_Tuna | That's got the result of my cryptsetup attempts too. |
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| 10:24.47 | Tinned_Tuna | My guess, though I know little about this, is that the partition table has become rather borked. |
| 10:25.26 | bw_ | Tinned_Tuna: could you try file -s /dev/sdb* ? |
| 10:26.24 | Tinned_Tuna | bw_: http://pastebin.com/V5fqvL7C |
| 10:26.54 | bw_ | doesn't look like something is encrypted at all |
| 10:27.17 | Tinned_Tuna | maybe I just try to mount /dev/sdb1 then ? :-p |
| 10:27.36 | bw_ | yes :) |
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| 10:28.16 | ChrisH | Tinned_Tuna: are you setting up or recovering? |
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| 10:28.30 | bw_ | if encrypted, file -s should show something like: /dev/sda1: LUKS encrypted file, ver 1 [aes, cbc-essiv:sha256, sha1] UUID: df31de69-2b0f-4a70-a5b3-a3d2261 |
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| 10:28.53 | Tinned_Tuna | ChrisH: recovering |
| 10:29.10 | Tinned_Tuna | I am thoroughly confused now, I was so sure I had an encrypted drive on that box... |
| 10:29.17 | ChrisH | Tinned_Tuna: I prefer the output from blkid to understand what is on the partitions. paste that output to paste.debian.net please |
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| 10:29.19 | Tinned_Tuna | it used to prompt for a passphrase at login... |
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| 10:29.30 | lkthomas | hey guys, does debian use step-tickers on ntp setting ? |
| 10:29.56 | Tinned_Tuna | ChrisH: one moment, just making 100% sure I get everything I need in case this is the data I need |
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| 10:31.43 | Tinned_Tuna | this is most disconcerting. I was so sure I had an encrypted drive. |
| 10:31.46 | kmmndr | hi all :-) |
| 10:32.02 | Tinned_Tuna | ahh well, eitherway, tar-ring now... |
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| 10:36.49 | Roenie | <Tinned_Tuna> I am thoroughly confused now, I was so sure I had an encrypted drive on that box... |
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| 10:37.16 | Roenie | it may seem over the top, but that's one reason i document the storage on my systems |
| 10:37.54 | Roenie | machine, drive, partition, fs, raid or not, controller, etc |
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| 10:38.45 | Tinned_Tuna | ChrisH: http://pastebin.com/ibisnX6D |
| 10:39.22 | ChrisH | Roenie: depends on the number of systems :) |
| 10:39.25 | Tinned_Tuna | Roenie: yea. It's been a while since this particular box went down, I replaced the drive and re-installed before xmas, and have just been needed to recover stuff off the drive recently :-p |
| 10:39.31 | Tinned_Tuna | and this was my home box |
| 10:39.36 | Tinned_Tuna | the only computer I have at home |
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| 10:40.04 | ChrisH | Tinned_Tuna: This is not exactly what I asdked for. I asked for blkid without options, but on sbd there is no detected encrypted volume |
| 10:40.11 | farciarz84 | hi, from where I can download stable wheezy distro using wget? |
| 10:40.19 | Roenie | ChrisH, just 2 systems here but my storage plan is a little intricate as always |
| 10:41.14 | ChrisH | farciarz84: What do you want to download? an iso image or? |
| 10:41.51 | farciarz84 | iso |
| 10:42.53 | ChrisH | farciarz84: check http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/ (google: debian wheezy iso download) hit 1 or 2 |
| 10:44.02 | Tinned_Tuna | ChrisH: http://pastebin.com/qEcQbCfg |
| 10:44.54 | Tinned_Tuna | ChrisH: /dev/loop2 is used to make /dev/mapper/crypt, /dev/sda* are the drives on the current box |
| 10:45.04 | Tinned_Tuna | well, partitions on the drive... |
| 10:46.27 | Tinned_Tuna | ChrisH: I think I must just have been mistaken about the encrypted drive. |
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| 10:47.32 | ChrisH | Tinned_Tuna: and sdb is the disk you assumed to have encryption on? Where does loop2 gets the data from? From a file inside a filesystem? My crypt disk setup looks a bit different: /dev/md4: UUID="473285ad-2f18-42c3-a408-7367826be282" TYPE="crypt_LUKS" |
| 10:48.00 | ChrisH | Tinned_Tuna: especially I am a bit confused about the crypt_LUKS vs. crypto_LUKS |
| 10:48.34 | Tinned_Tuna | loop2 is a file created a while ago on my local box |
| 10:48.59 | ChrisH | Might be reladted to my old and unspoorted debian I checked :) |
| 10:49.15 | Tinned_Tuna | by doing something like head -c 2500M > /dev/random > ~/Data/secure_disk |
| 10:49.44 | Tinned_Tuna | then losetup on it, cryptsetup, mount, etc. |
| 10:49.55 | Tinned_Tuna | basically, I have an encrypted disk that's a disk on my disk :-p |
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| 10:50.58 | ChrisH | Tinned_Tuna: as I said, a file (~/Data/secure_disk) inside a filesystem ~/Data/ |
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| 10:51.55 | Tinned_Tuna | ChrisH: yea, file inside the filesystem, but it's quite a hammer-fisted approach. |
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| 10:52.43 | Tinned_Tuna | Also, my cryptsetup version on this (current) box is cryptsetup 1.1.3 |
| 10:53.17 | Tinned_Tuna | Is there a generally accepted "correct" way to do what I've done? |
| 10:53.43 | farciarz84 | ChrisH: thx, I meant stable but probably I don't get how it works |
| 10:54.04 | Tinned_Tuna | \o/ I've found the old code repos I wanted, plus, bonus, my music ^.^ |
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| 10:55.01 | ksuhku | farciarz84, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual (you're probably amd64) |
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| 10:57.17 | pianino | Hello. I ve problem with editting the /etc/network/interfaces file: when I add few lines to configure eth0 it says E35: No previous regular expression |
| 10:57.31 | ChrisH | farciarz84: I overlooked stable, stable is squeeze. wheezy is testing. So you need to decide |
| 10:58.53 | farciarz84 | well looks I got what I want http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/wheezy_di_rc1/amd64/iso-cd/debian-wheezy-DI-rc1-amd64-netinst.iso, thx for your help |
| 10:58.56 | ChrisH | pianino: what is "it"? How do you edit? |
| 10:59.30 | ChrisH | farciarz84: Good luck and enjoy debian :) |
| 11:00.10 | pianino | It = my machine. As a root I typed 'vi /etc/network/interfaces'. |
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| 11:01.15 | Iridos | you get that error message for the command 'vi /etc/network/interfaces'?? |
| 11:01.44 | pianino | I tried to add these lines: ' auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0' and I got this error> E35: No previous regular expression |
| 11:01.54 | ChrisH | pianino: just to be sure, you know how to use vi? |
| 11:02.43 | pianino | No. I tried to use guidelines. Unfortunately I m new at Debiana and I m learning simultaneously! |
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| 11:03.38 | pianino | No I got that error message during editting the 'interfaces' file. |
| 11:04.07 | ChrisH | pianino: OK... I assumed that. Maybe you do want to use another editor and keep learning vi later. It is worth it, but a bit special :) |
| 11:05.29 | pianino | Do you know how can I configure my wireless internet by any chance?I m struggeling with that in whole day! |
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| 11:07.04 | ChrisH | pianino: can you show us the content of your /etc/network/interfaces on paste.debian.net please? |
| 11:08.00 | Tinned_Tuna | bw_, ChrisH, thanks for your help, I'll probably be ok on my own from here :-) |
| 11:08.03 | Tinned_Tuna | see you all :-) |
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| 11:09.18 | phix | http://archive.org/details/SeanKellyRecoveryfromAddiction |
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| 11:12.03 | pianino | I wrote there because I don t have access to the internet on my own machine to copy and paste (error on 'seee' while typing)! |
| 11:12.51 | Iridos | pianino, I suggest you try the editor "nano"... it has 2 lines of help on the most-used key-strokes at the bottom |
| 11:13.10 | AnimeFreak | Debian installer offers "C" language localization. I am wondering, is that a joke or something? :D |
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| 11:13.47 | Nik05 | no not a joke |
| 11:13.52 | Footur | hello there |
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| 11:14.27 | Footur | M'm looking for a command to close all established tcp connections with fin on a specific port |
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| 11:15.06 | AnimeFreak | Nik05: Well there certainly isnt a C localization... |
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| 11:15.42 | Nik05 | there is |
| 11:15.52 | AnimeFreak | Wow. I got to try that out. |
| 11:16.03 | Nik05 | why? |
| 11:16.12 | AnimeFreak | Sounds funny. |
| 11:17.22 | ChrisH | AnimeFreak: ls -l /usr/share/i18n/locales/C |
| 11:17.22 | Nik05 | you can also use POSIX |
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| 11:19.08 | dawud | Footur: man iptables |
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| 11:26.14 | ChrisH | Footur: I remember we had this quetion here a while ago and I found the log :) use tcpkill from dsniff |
| 11:26.50 | Footur | ChrisH: Than you for the hint :) |
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| 11:42.23 | fishsponge | how can I tell the "find" command to search /dir/ for something, but tell it not to search through /dir/snapshots/ ? |
| 11:43.50 | fishsponge | for example, I have /dir/a/ /dir/b/ /dir/c/ and /dir/snapshots/ - I want to search /dir/ for something, but not go through all the snapshots directory at all - it will take way too long... |
| 11:44.07 | kaste | fishsponge: search the man page for prune |
| 11:44.38 | ksk | how do i grep for example "."? it seems grep matches ":" and "-" too in that case |
| 11:45.05 | ChrisH | fishsponge: I never get prune to work all these yaears. :) |
| 11:45.06 | ksk | i have to escape it, nevermind |
| 11:45.08 | ChrisH | ksk: grep \. |
| 11:45.35 | kaste | ksk: if you just earch for . that is meant to mean any one letter match |
| 11:46.41 | fishsponge | kaste, i have used prune, but it still seems to search the directory and just removes the subdir from the line it found |
| 11:46.57 | fishsponge | prune seems to basically search through the directory anyway and then prune the results from the output |
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| 11:48.05 | kaste | hmm that's annoying, but would make sense given the name |
| 11:48.14 | kaste | mind shell? |
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| 11:48.46 | ChrisH | fishsponge: I try to make it using -path /dir/?/ |
| 11:48.50 | kaste | for d in (find . -depth 1 -type d | grep -v snapshots); find foo $d |
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| 11:49.07 | kaste | something along that line (untested zsh) |
| 11:49.36 | Devastator | was dbus pulled from squeeze?: |
| 11:49.37 | fishsponge | kaste, some dirs may have spaces in them, so the for loop won't work... |
| 11:49.51 | fishsponge | kaste, thanks though - i know what route you are going down :-) |
| 11:50.20 | Devastator | ,versions dbus |
| 11:50.23 | judd | Package: dbus on i386 -- lenny: 1.2.1-5+lenny2; lenny-security: 1.2.1-5+lenny2; squeeze: 1.2.24-4+squeeze2; sid: 1.6.8-1; wheezy: 1.6.8-1; experimental: 1.7.0-1 |
| 11:50.56 | ChrisH | fishsponge: spaces in names consider find ..... -print0 | xargs -0 #standard disclaimer, I know -exec but do not like the syntax |
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| 11:51.48 | fishsponge | ChrisH, sorry - i'm lost on that one... |
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| 11:53.44 | ChrisH | fishsponge: try: find /dir -type d -print0 | xargs --null ls -ld this will print all directories below /dir ; then retest using: find /dir -type d | xargs ls -ld and compare the erorrs/output. |
| 11:55.30 | fishsponge | ChrisH, the second command gives errors because some dirs have spaces in them |
| 11:55.38 | fishsponge | the first command works fine |
| 11:57.12 | ChrisH | fishsponge: so you can use such a command or the idea kaste offerred and create a small script to do your find. I expect this will be faster then finding out how to prevent find from geting into special subdirs. Given the snapshots subdir is a seperate filesystem it's easy. -xdev |
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| 11:58.08 | fishsponge | i'd have thought the "prune" option (which seems to be suggested everywhere on the web) would work! |
| 11:58.33 | fishsponge | i'm currently trying this: find /$DIR/ \( -type d -name tmp -prune \) -o -type d -name vincent -o -name cabbage -o -name lettuce |
| 11:58.44 | fishsponge | and getting /home/rhobbs/binit/tmp still showing up |
| 11:59.00 | fishsponge | but when I run this: find /$DIR/ -type d -name vincent -o -name cabbage -o -name lettuce |
| 11:59.14 | fishsponge | i get /home/rhobbs/binit/tmp/vincent showing up instead |
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| 12:00.17 | mirkgeo | Is there any way to copy a user? |
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| 12:00.41 | ChrisH | mirkgeo: cp? or what? |
| 12:00.46 | fishsponge | hmm..... the "find" man page states (for the -prune option): if the file is a directory, do not descend into it. |
| 12:01.04 | fishsponge | so this suggests it won't go into it... but why does the "tmp" directory itself still show up in my search results?!? |
| 12:01.12 | mirkgeo | ChrisH: create a new user and copy the settings for an existing user |
| 12:01.30 | wakd | fishsponge: Because it found that directory. |
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| 12:01.45 | wakd | fishsponge: But it doesn't descend into it. |
| 12:02.02 | ChrisH | mirkgeo: define "settings for an existing user" |
| 12:02.05 | fishsponge | wakd, but why did it find that directory? i'm not searching for directories with the name "tmp" |
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| 12:02.28 | fishsponge | is it listing it because it's an excluded directory that *MIGHT* have dirs called "vincent", "cabbage" or "lettuce" in? |
| 12:02.29 | mirkgeo | ChrisH: so it has the same groups, same permissions and so on |
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| 12:03.11 | ChrisH | mirkgeo: useradd + vi /etc/group ? |
| 12:03.30 | mirkgeo | mirkgeo: I don't know..? :) |
| 12:03.36 | wakd | fishsponge: -type d -name tmp -prune = find dirs named tmp, but dont descend below them, if I understand correctly. |
| 12:04.28 | fishsponge | here's the command I'm running: find /$DIR/ \( -type d -name tmp -prune \) -o -type d -name vincent -o -name cabbage -o -name lettuce |
| 12:04.46 | fishsponge | the "tmp" directory still shows up in the list |
| 12:05.08 | fishsponge | is that because I'm also kinda searching for dirs called "tmp" as well? |
| 12:05.16 | wakd | fishsponge: yes, because it matches \( -type d -name tmp -prune \) |
| 12:05.22 | wakd | fishsponge: yes |
| 12:05.28 | fishsponge | ok, so how do i exclude the tmp dir from the output? |
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| 12:06.43 | wakd | fishsponge: do you have 'info find' ? |
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| 12:07.08 | fishsponge | wakd, nope... |
| 12:07.25 | fishsponge | i could grep it out, but that's not great in this situation... |
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| 12:07.58 | faen | put everything you do want to print in \( \) and add -print after that |
| 12:08.08 | faen | that seems to work, though I don't know if it's a nice solution |
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| 12:09.58 | wakd | fishsponge: maybe this helps you, from info find http://paste.debian.net/240467/ |
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| 12:11.18 | dekroning | I've got a VPN server, which all internet traffic is flowing through, is there also a way to see what kind of http traffic, and be whom? Do I need to have a transparent proxy server setup, in order to see this, or is there perhaps an easier way? |
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| 12:16.26 | project2501a | hmmm. |
| 12:16.54 | project2501a | would it be much trouble if debian started building standard vagrand images to be distributed? |
| 12:17.22 | project2501a | i am thinking... vagrant + bit of scripting, you can basically boot a minimalist infrastructure, with little to none work. |
| 12:17.26 | project2501a | which would be awesome |
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| 12:17.56 | project2501a | vagrant box puppet and it will spawn everything needed in order to create a puppet infrastructure. |
| 12:18.09 | project2501a | Georff was right: this is the year of the API |
| 12:18.09 | fishsponge | wakd, thanks for that... i can't get it to not print the "tmp" dir though! here's my command again: find /$DIR/ \( -type d -name tmp -prune \) -o -type d -name vincent -o -name cabbage -o -name lettuce |
| 12:18.28 | fishsponge | wakd, i've tried this, but it doesn't work: find /$DIR/ \( -type d -name tmp -prune -o print \) -o -type d -name vincent -o -name cabbage -o -name |
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| 12:20.14 | wakd | fishsponge: did you try like the example, just find /$DIR/ \( -type d -name tmp -prune \) -o print |
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| 12:21.18 | fishsponge | wakd, find: paths must precede expression: print |
| 12:22.20 | wakd | fishsponge: hmm, same here |
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| 12:23.30 | wakd | fishsponge: s/print/- print |
| 12:23.44 | wakd | fishsponge: s/print/-print dammit |
| 12:24.40 | wakd | fishsponge: works for me :) |
| 12:26.05 | fishsponge | that prints out everything for me! (i.e. even the stuff I don't want to find) |
| 12:26.24 | fishsponge | wakd, find /$DIR/ \( -type d -name tmp -prune \) -o -print -type d -name vincent -o -name cabbage -o -name lettuce |
| 12:26.37 | Footur | tcpkill solved my problem |
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| 12:27.47 | wakd | fishsponge: but it excludes tmp, yes? Step 1 of what you want. Then I think you have to figure out how to add the extra conditions. |
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| 12:28.26 | fishsponge | wakd, right... does this look sensible? find /$DIR/ \( -type d -name tmp -prune \) -o -type d -name vincent -print -o -type d -name cabbage -print -o -type d -name lettuce -print |
| 12:29.57 | fishsponge | wakd, am I right in saying that this command searches for dirs of the name "vincent", "cabbage" and "lettuce" and does NOT search within the "tmp" directory, and then only prints out the dirs called "vincent", "cabbage" and "lettuce" ? |
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| 12:31.03 | wakd | fishsponge: yes. did you test? |
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| 12:31.26 | wakd | fishsponge: this works for me: fishsponge: yes. find . \( -type d -name tmp -prune \) -o -name i_want_this -print -o -name i_want_this_too -print |
| 12:31.35 | fishsponge | wakd, yep - the test works perfectly! |
| 12:31.40 | wakd | fishsponge: err, this works for me: find . \( -type d -name tmp -prune \) -o -name i_want_this -print -o -name i_want_this_too -print |
| 12:31.49 | wakd | fishsponge: cool :) |
| 12:32.08 | fishsponge | i'm glad we've found this! i should buy you a pint or something! |
| 12:32.24 | wakd | fishsponge: haha, you're welcome |
| 12:32.25 | fishsponge | what a nightmare for a theoretically simply task! |
| 12:33.06 | fishsponge | right, gtg... thanks for your help again, wakd! |
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| 12:44.00 | johnfg | is there a way to access/see from the cli a location mounted via gnome's Places/Connect to Server/Service Type: SSH? |
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| 12:44.25 | johnfg | If so, where is it mounted? |
| 12:44.39 | JmZ | how would i go about installing a package from sid, only one package? doesn't depend on anything else from sid and the stable one is outdated as per usual |
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| 12:46.31 | jelly | JmZ: download it manually, install with dpkg |
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| 12:47.39 | jelly | JmZ: before doing that, verify whether there's a version in squeeze-backports that suits your purposes, and use that one instead if it exists |
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| 12:48.01 | jelly | JmZ: /msg judd versions packagename; /msg dpkg bdo |
| 12:49.55 | JmZ | jelly: apparently not |
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| 12:50.36 | GranoSalis | hi |
| 12:50.37 | JmZ | i'd build it from source just to save time trying to hunt down a package which isn't n years old. but the source doesn't come with the nice init scripts that the package has |
| 12:50.42 | babilen | JmZ: Which package? |
| 12:51.09 | jelly | JmZ: if you're not averse to building, you can try /msg dpkg ssb |
| 12:51.19 | JmZ | babilen: memcached, stable repo has 1.4.5, latest is 1.4.15 |
| 12:51.29 | babilen | judd: checkbackport memcached |
| 12:51.30 | judd | Backporting package memcached in sid→squeeze/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using squeeze. |
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| 12:52.14 | GranoSalis | just a quick question |
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| 12:52.20 | babilen | JmZ: ssb might work just fine, alternatively consider upgrading to wheezy (consider yourself warned as testing has not yet been released and does not receive the same level of security support as stable) |
| 12:52.37 | GranoSalis | how can i see the color scheme in my terminal,like this http://antonyjepson.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/2008-07-16-143419_976x556_scrot.png |
| 12:52.42 | GranoSalis | ? |
| 12:53.02 | JmZ | babilen: exactly why i haven't upgraded to wheezy :p |
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| 12:53.19 | JmZ | bit of a pain that all the memcached related packages are outdated though |
| 12:53.41 | babilen | JmZ: Fair enough, just wanted to mention it. You might be able to backport the version from sid quite easily as all the build-dependencies can be satisfied. |
| 12:53.49 | babilen | good luck :) |
| 12:54.19 | tnettenba | GranoSalis: I think it's one of these color scheme scripts at the bottom of this page: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/X_resources |
| 12:55.40 | GranoSalis | tnettenba: thanks,and how do i change my color scheme? |
| 12:55.48 | GranoSalis | in xfce term. |
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| 12:58.27 | tnettenba | GranoSalis: It's described on the same page |
| 12:59.51 | GranoSalis | oh :D |
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| 13:05.52 | kephra | moin, most svn server tutorials tell to move the /usr/bin/svnserve and to provide a wrapper - but what happens on next debian update? |
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| 13:06.38 | ksk | kephra: if you dont set a dpkg-statoverride it probably be overwritten |
| 13:06.42 | greenit | hi, is this also the channel for debian-testing? |
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| 13:06.59 | ksk | greenit: not really. testing is topic on #debian-next on irc.debian.org |
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| 13:07.12 | greenit | ah, k |
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| 13:09.42 | pKr | could anyone give a hand in a possible apache/openssl bug here please? Facing a SSL timeout (handshake not completed) for some countries but not for others |
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| 13:15.26 | kephra | ksk, statoverride only fixes permissions, but it does not prevent that debian installs a new /usr/bin/svnserve - or do I miss the point? |
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| 13:17.17 | phix | pKr: are those countries on the US embargo list? |
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| 13:17.54 | pKr | I cant even count anymore honestly, but all people from US I spoke cant access the website, Brazil as well and some people using a specific ISP in Europe |
| 13:17.58 | ksk | kephra: you are right. there was another mechanism for what you want to archive. hum.. |
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| 13:18.43 | ksk | kephra: dpkg-divert |
| 13:18.44 | pKr | phix, |
| 13:18.49 | ksk | !tell kephra about dpkg-divert |
| 13:18.58 | ksk | hum, google it then ;) |
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| 13:20.56 | kephra | ksk, thx^10 |
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| 13:23.44 | phix | pKr: |
| 13:23.45 | phix | ? |
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| 13:26.42 | Cristen | Hi everyone, whenever I try to use "host ip" or "dig ip" it fails on this address 94.247.29.2 is it normal , (SERVFAIL) ? |
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| 13:27.04 | Cristen | I'm trying to retrieve the domain name from the ip address :o) |
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| 13:28.08 | Towzzer | you need to specify you want the pointer record |
| 13:28.34 | Towzzer | try dig -t ptr 94.247.29.2 |
| 13:28.55 | Towzzer | however I am not showing a PTR record that ip |
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| 13:29.02 | Cristen | servail again :( |
| 13:29.17 | Cristen | why does it work with the google ip for instance and not our server ip ? |
| 13:29.32 | Towzzer | you haven't setup a ptr record in your dns server |
| 13:29.49 | ChrisH | Cristen: can you show the dig output + content from /etc/resolv.conf /etc/nsswitch.conf to paste.debian.net please |
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| 13:30.17 | Cristen | so without ptr records you can't get the domain name right ? |
| 13:30.24 | Towzzer | no |
| 13:30.29 | Cristen | fine thank you |
| 13:30.34 | Towzzer | there is one record that maps the name to the ip and another that maps the ip to the name |
| 13:30.42 | Towzzer | have a nice day sir :D |
| 13:30.49 | Cristen | you too sir :) |
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| 13:32.03 | ChrisH | Cristen: SERVFAIL is not expected .. but NXDOMAIN |
| 13:32.47 | Cristen | oh well I'm not done yet, in fact I'm working on a small bash script that retrieves ip addresses from the router logs. I want to check whether these sites are related to pr0n websites or not if you know what I mean :o ... |
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| 13:34.44 | ChrisH | Cristen: strange hobby :) |
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| 13:35.28 | Cristen | I was asked to do this, to check whether someone is watching weird websites or not |
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| 13:36.23 | Cristen | since this guy connects to our enterprise network, I don't know any other method than checking the logs of the router and retrieving the TCP connections :o( |
| 13:36.33 | Cristen | don't know if it will work thought never worked on something like that before -_- |
| 13:36.41 | Cristen | though* |
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| 13:38.09 | ChrisH | OT but, is that legal in france? In .de this could cost you your adminjob if there is now special agreement in the company that an empolyee is not allowed to use the Internet for private stuff. I am not a lawyer. |
| 13:38.34 | Cristen | Well I'm aware it is not if the person is part of the enterprise |
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| 13:39.05 | Cristen | but this guy isn't working in our firm, but sometimes uses our network |
| 13:39.39 | Cristen | and some coworkers told me that they heard strange *sounds* coming from this guy's laptop. |
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| 13:41.07 | Cristen | so I think it is right to protect our network :p |
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| 13:43.13 | tnettenba | Protect the network from boobies! |
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| 13:43.33 | Cristen | haha right |
| 13:43.37 | tnettenba | Maybe ntop is something you might want to take a look at Cristen |
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| 13:44.50 | Cristen | will it work with a livebox ? |
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| 13:45.54 | tnettenba | From a livecd you mean? Sure but it'll run out of resources if it doesn't have writable storage |
| 13:46.42 | Cristen | nope a livebox is a router from the ISP company |
| 13:47.10 | Cristen | gives internet, acts as a router |
| 13:47.37 | Cristen | I know the guy's IP I just want to check on which website he goes :) |
| 13:48.10 | tnettenba | *searching* You mean Orange Livebox ? |
| 13:48.18 | Cristen | yeah |
| 13:49.15 | staropram | Must be a good website, if he's willing to risk it at work. No wonder you're so eager to find out eh! |
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| 13:50.32 | tnettenba | Well if you want to dabble into embedded devices, there is an ntop probe that sends info over RMON to a 'collection server'. But don't ask me the details lol |
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| 13:52.44 | Cristen | OT staropram he's just an OLD retired pervert but still a very smart guy that somehow manages to destroy the work of others without leaving a single trace :o) |
| 13:53.03 | tnettenba | a single boob you mean |
| 13:53.04 | Cristen | He got a bad reputation in here but no one ever caught him red-handed |
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| 13:53.20 | staropram | How does he destroy the work of others? |
| 13:54.04 | Cristen | Stealing data and claiming it's his for instance |
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| 13:55.49 | Cristen | but if it's too much trouble i'm not gettin in there i'm just trying to give a hand to the coworkers :) |
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| 14:00.29 | jhutchins_wk | Cristen: What do you want from us? |
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| 14:01.29 | Cristen | nothing more I think google will be handy now to search how to do it :) |
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| 14:01.34 | Cristen | thanks |
| 14:01.36 | dashs | The gpg key for dl.google.com has expired o my squeeze system. How to update? |
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| 14:02.13 | rneese_ | mornign |
| 14:02.42 | rneese_ | is there a clear how to on developing a deb pkg |
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| 14:02.55 | jhutchins_wk | !nmg |
| 14:02.56 | dpkg | The New Maintainer's Guide (http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/), Developer's Reference and Policy document how packages should be made and how they should interact with each other. Ask me about <package basics>, <mentors>, <policy>, <best practices> or see http://www.debian.org/devel/ , http://wiki.debian.org/Courses2005/BuildingWithoutHelper |
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| 14:04.49 | rneese_ | next question only because of time constrains |
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| 14:05.13 | rneese_ | is there a place to post a bounty or find someone to help with this that has done it before |
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| 14:05.52 | rneese_ | I am willing to read and learn but I have a need for this pkg asap |
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| 14:05.56 | rneese_ | like yesterday |
| 14:06.13 | petn-randall | dashs: gpg --refresh-keys |
| 14:06.30 | petn-randall | dashs: Though I suspect you might actually be asking about the apt-key |
| 14:06.48 | Xeon3D | Hi. I'm installing 6.0 on a very limited hdd space situation. But I'd like to have an X server/DE going... considering I have around 400Mb free, what would you recommend? |
| 14:08.14 | JmZ | anyone here got any experience with libmemcached? really quite stuck right now and their channel isn't of much use |
| 14:08.27 | JmZ | it doesn't work on debian 6 apparently, for me only |
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| 14:09.59 | arvind_khadri | Hi, I have various applications like, bugzilla and wordpress, using exim to send mail. Can I make these applications authenticate before they send a mail? |
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| 14:13.29 | porton | My SSH started to work VERY slowly (both during login and during typing commands). Which tool to use to check system load? I would use `top` but it could probably be also slow |
| 14:13.56 | arvind_khadri | porton, htop |
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| 14:16.17 | porton | ... `top` shows a low system load, but Bash inside SSH runs VERY slowly. Maybe it's a DoS attack? (Who would need my server anyway) |
| 14:16.44 | porton | ... I have no swap |
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| 14:17.04 | Xeon3D | top |
| 14:17.49 | porton | ... It seems that transfer from my PC to the server is slow, but not other way round, probably |
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| 14:18.26 | porton | ... `top` seems to work (reloading during time), but it does not respond neither to q neither to Ctrl+C |
| 14:18.30 | jelly | porton: do you have other transfers running on the same link your pc client uses? |
| 14:18.41 | porton | jelly: No |
| 14:19.52 | jelly | porton: verify there's enough free memory on the server, "free" command or top (with top, consider both "free"+"buffers" as free) |
| 14:20.09 | porton | ... It worked yesterday. Maybe the problem appeared after `apt-get upgrade` and `reboot`. I've also reboot the server about 13 minutes ago, as I thought that SSH does not function entirely |
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| 14:20.39 | rneese_ | porton, install fail2ban |
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| 14:20.45 | porton | jelly: There is much RAM allocated for temporary buffers. The graph of memory usage seems also good |
| 14:20.49 | rneese_ | it will help with attacks |
| 14:21.05 | rneese_ | it will block the attacker after 3 attempts |
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| 14:21.40 | jelly | porton: that's ok. Oh well, inspect network traffic on the server. iptraf gives a decent overall stats |
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| 14:21.56 | porton | rneese_: Won't it block myself (root), if I type password incorrectly 3 times by mistake and render system unusable (without root able to login)? |
| 14:22.20 | rneese_ | you can set how long to block |
| 14:22.36 | jelly | porton: yes. Don't make mistakes. Consider using key-based auth. Also, avoid logging in to root from public addresses. |
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| 14:22.43 | porton | jelly: Network usage graph is VERY low. So it is not a DoS attack I suspected before |
| 14:22.44 | rneese_ | but yes and if you as a adin screw up 3 times you need to go back to admin school |
| 14:22.49 | zykotick9 | porton: fail2ban is for ssh logins? do you allow root ssh login (probably not best idea)? |
| 14:22.51 | rneese_ | or learn to use ssh keys |
| 14:23.26 | porton | zykotick9: If I were not allow root ssh login, there would be no mean to control the server |
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| 14:23.37 | rneese_ | yes there would |
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| 14:23.54 | rneese_ | you login as a user and you sudo upto root access |
| 14:24.03 | rneese_ | you have alot to learn padawon |
| 14:24.16 | rneese_ | you need to go back to admin /unix 101 |
| 14:24.29 | deepy | eek, sudo |
| 14:24.40 | rneese_ | sudo or su |
| 14:24.44 | rneese_ | your choice |
| 14:24.47 | deepy | I'd log in as an user and su to root |
| 14:25.17 | porton | rneese_: How logging to root through `sudo` is better than direct login as root through SSH? I see no difference, either requires root password |
| 14:25.46 | rneese_ | because allowing root via ssh is a security hole |
| 14:26.03 | jelly | porton: auditing and accountability in case of multiple admins for the same machine |
| 14:26.05 | zykotick9 | porton: BUT, if you allow root to login via-ssh, that gives crackers a legitimate account to try passwords agains |
| 14:26.07 | rneese_ | and you can control access for root and su per user |
| 14:26.09 | porton | rneese_: How is it worse than allowing root through sudo? |
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| 14:26.47 | rneese_ | sudo allows running of commades but you can limit access |
| 14:26.49 | ChrisH | rneese_: sometimes you need it if having multiple systems and need to autmated stuff. |
| 14:26.53 | rneese_ | and su gives full access |
| 14:27.14 | jelly | ChrisH: then you allowed access from specific adresses with specific keys |
| 14:27.21 | rneese_ | yes |
| 14:27.22 | jelly | s/ed// |
| 14:27.25 | rneese_ | ssh keys then |
| 14:27.36 | ChrisH | jelly: yep... thats what I did :) |
| 14:27.37 | rneese_ | to secure your access |
| 14:27.44 | porton | ... SSH runs so slowly that the system is unusable :-( All resource graphs are low, no DoS attack found |
| 14:28.20 | jhutchins_wk | porton: You may have a lot of noise/traffic on your network. |
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| 14:28.40 | porton | jhutchins_wk: Network transfer graphics are VERY low |
| 14:28.43 | ChrisH | porton: define slow. slow et establish or slow tro react? how is the load? 3 last figures from uptime |
| 14:28.45 | jhutchins_wk | Easiest way to check is with tcpdump |
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| 14:29.01 | flam_ | is this channel only for debian stable? |
| 14:29.11 | porton | ChrisH: Everything with SSH is slow: logging in, typing commands |
| 14:29.33 | porton | ... output of executing of commands |
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| 14:30.05 | rneese_ | thats not ssh thats your system |
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| 14:30.19 | porton | rneese_: Apache runs well |
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| 14:31.04 | jhutchins_wk | porton: I have no idea what a "network transfer graphic" is, but it's possible that something on your network - like a printer or something - is generating a lot of traffic. If you don't see a load on the server, the problem could be somewhere else. There is no inherent problem with ssh, it is a well established protocol. |
| 14:31.06 | porton | 07:29:13 up 28 min, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 |
| 14:31.23 | ChrisH | Is Entropie (/proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail) also needed for existing ssh-connections? |
| 14:31.39 | jelly | porton: ask your service provider about network congestion or other issues |
| 14:31.47 | porton | jhutchins_wk: My server is a VPS in a data center serving to host some Web sites, there are no printers there |
| 14:32.06 | jhutchins_wk | porton: Ok, you already know all the answers, why are you here? |
| 14:32.10 | jelly | porton: test download and upload bw from the swerver |
| 14:32.26 | porton | jelly: Thorough which protocol? |
| 14:32.35 | porton | jelly: What is "bw"? |
| 14:32.57 | jelly | porton: bandwidth. Any tcp-based protocol for a start. |
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| 14:33.11 | jelly | preferably a cleartext one |
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| 14:33.44 | ChrisH | porton: I assume its a gigabit network interface, so that we can exclude 100MBit FD/HD problems |
| 14:33.50 | porton | jelly: What is a quickiest way to set such a protocol (without breaking security)? |
| 14:34.15 | jelly | porton: dude, just download stuff off the web from a known fast place. |
| 14:34.35 | porton | ChrisH: If I remember correctly, I have a 100MBit connection to my VPS, but the graphs of network usage show that it is used for a very little percent now |
| 14:35.35 | porton | HTTP download of a 2.7K file took 0.001s (3.64 MB/s) |
| 14:35.47 | ChrisH | porton: IF you have a 100MBit/s Link you should check for the FD/HD settings with your provider. mismatch there shows up in extremly slow speed |
| 14:36.00 | porton | What is FD/HD? |
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| 14:36.35 | ChrisH | porton: 2.7kb is not big enough to say anything about speed. FD/HD Full Duplex/Half Duplex |
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| 14:38.12 | porton | HTTP download of a 331K file took 2.0s (164 KB/s) |
| 14:38.38 | porton | ... As I've already said, Apache works well. I experienced the problem only with SSH |
| 14:38.38 | jelly | porton: er. Download a large file, like an iso image, to get a better idea. |
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| 14:39.14 | porton | jelly: There are no such file on the server (and I can't upload it now, because the uploading interface is too slow) |
| 14:40.04 | dashs | petn-randall: sorry away -- tried apt-key update but nothing was refreshed. |
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| 14:41.01 | jelly | porton: since you have to test _both_ connections, download TO server first. |
| 14:41.14 | jelly | both ways* |
| 14:41.39 | jelly | porton: eg. wget -O/dev/null http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/non-free/s/sauerbraten-data/sauerbraten-data_0.0.20100728-1_all.deb |
| 14:42.04 | porton | jelly: Do you mean to run this command on my server? |
| 14:42.10 | jelly | porton: exactly |
| 14:42.40 | rneese_ | porton, /clear |
| 14:42.46 | rneese_ | grr |
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| 14:42.54 | porton | What is /clear? |
| 14:42.58 | jelly | ignore that |
| 14:42.58 | rneese_ | typo |
| 14:43.37 | ChrisH | As refernce on a 100MBit/s fibre Internetlink: 2013-03-08 15:43:05 (10.2 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved |
| 14:43.57 | petn-randall | dashs: Well, gpg and apt-key aren't entirely the same ... you'd probably have to get the key from wherever you got it the first time. |
| 14:44.08 | petn-randall | dashs: It's not shipped with Debian. |
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| 14:44.47 | jelly | heh, `/dev/null' saved |
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| 14:45.12 | dashs | petn-randall: think that came with pkg google-chrome-stable, but I'll try linux-packages-keymaster@google.com |
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| 14:45.55 | porton | Now I can't login at all, it's so slow |
| 14:45.56 | ChrisH | jelly: my /dev/null is faster then yours ;) |
| 14:46.00 | ed8 | hi, I'm having with the time on a server |
| 14:46.39 | ed8 | when running the date command it tell me its 2012 may 19 |
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| 14:46.48 | rneese_ | ed8 did you configure the timezone |
| 14:47.07 | somiaj | sounds like your lock is off, you could use something like ntpdate or openntpd to keep it set correctly |
| 14:47.09 | ed8 | rneese_: I don't thin |
| 14:47.15 | jelly | rneese_: there is no effin timezone that's 10840 hours offset from UTC |
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| 14:47.49 | rneese_ | was going to tell him configure the timezone and then run nptd |
| 14:47.59 | rneese_ | or ntpdate to correct it |
| 14:47.59 | ed8 | do you have a tutorial to setup the ntp? |
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| 14:48.08 | rneese_ | man ntpd |
| 14:48.12 | ChrisH | ed8: easiest way (if you can allow time to step back) is apt-get install ntp |
| 14:48.21 | somiaj | ed8: apt-get install openntpd should be sufficent |
| 14:48.32 | somiaj | or just install ntp |
| 14:48.58 | porton | jelly: Suggested `wget -O/dev/null` downloads VERY slowly |
| 14:49.04 | ChrisH | ed8: no tutorial needed on Debian, it comes preconfigured |
| 14:49.24 | porton | ... It probably does not even download at all! |
| 14:49.31 | ed8 | ChrisH: so why I got this issue ? |
| 14:49.47 | jelly | porton: and there's your network congestion confirmation |
| 14:49.52 | porton | ... (or maybe it does not update download speed info on the terminal) |
| 14:50.01 | jelly | porton: contact your service provider. |
| 14:50.15 | ChrisH | ed8: ask your HW vendor :) someone/somehow/something mixed up the clock. |
| 14:50.18 | porton | jelly: I've contacted it two minutes ago |
| 14:50.59 | ChrisH | porton: it does update the download speed... and that wget does not involve any ssl so its the plain network speed. |
| 14:51.44 | ChrisH | mumbles and it shows again, do not assume anything and test in a structured way |
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| 14:51.54 | porton | ChrisH: wget output download percent meter. Maybe it's output to the terminal is slow not downloading itself. I will try without the meter |
| 14:52.53 | porton | How to turn off progress meter in Wget? |
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| 14:53.36 | ChrisH | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:54.21 | jelly | porton: removing the progress indicator won't speed up the download |
| 14:54.29 | flam_ | is this channel also for debian testing? |
| 14:54.57 | jelly | flam_: /msg dpkg wheezy |
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| 14:55.47 | flam_ | wtf |
| 14:56.08 | jelly | flam_: [...] #debian-next on irc.debian.org |
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| 14:56.58 | somiaj | flam_: you can ask debian wheezy quesitons here |
| 14:57.01 | TheGrey | does anyone know how I can install debian on a thinkpad without it takling over the hidden partioin on it? |
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| 14:58.10 | somiaj | TheGrey: just don't use the 'use the entier disk' option when installing. You may have to manually partition and tell it what parttions to use for /, swap and any other partitions you like |
| 14:58.13 | Bsims | TheGrey: tell it not to use that partition? |
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| 14:58.43 | flam_ | well i can't get mms network streaming to work in vlc, how should i go on about solving that? |
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| 14:59.14 | TheGrey | thanks, so what partions will I need to create manually? / and swap? |
| 14:59.34 | somiaj | those are the only two that are required, I prefer to put /home on a seperate partition, but that is personal preference |
| 14:59.42 | Bsims | TheGrey: easiest way is to shrink your windows partition and tell debian installer to use the free space |
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| 15:00.19 | Bsims | you can safely avoid the swap partition, if you have at least 2gb of ram you will almost certainly never use it |
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| 15:01.10 | somiaj | unless you use harddisk suppend |
| 15:01.29 | Bsims | somiaj: Ah true, didn't think about that... I don't have a laptop |
| 15:02.41 | somiaj | and personally with modern desktops like gnome being such a hog, I would want more than 2gigs of ram before going swapless. |
| 15:03.22 | rww | I have 4GB, and I've managed to run out of RAM before. Granted, this was while compiling Firefox, but still. |
| 15:03.56 | somiaj | 4gig is about where I would consider it starting to be safe, but I'm extra parnoid. The only swapless maching I have is my 12gig desktop (which I rarely use more than 5gigs of) |
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| 15:04.44 | porton | I've changed nothing. Now it works with a relatively good speed |
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| 15:05.15 | ChrisH | still does conservative setup: Swap minimum 1x RAM size ; swap inside LVM |
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| 15:05.37 | jelly | porton: it's very likely your provider's overcommitting the resources available to their VPS products |
| 15:06.05 | porton | Downloading http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/non-free/s/sauerbraten-data/sauerbraten-data_0.0.20100728-1_all.deb to /dev/null of my server took 19s (23.3 MB/s) |
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| 15:06.27 | jelly | that's basically the only way to come up with low prices |
| 15:06.30 | porton | jelly: They say that they allocate dedicated resources to every VPS |
| 15:06.52 | jelly | porton: does that include download and upload bw? |
| 15:06.54 | porton | jelly: $31.5/month |
| 15:07.20 | Zharf | I manage to swap constantly with 6G of RAM, 8G's just enough for not swapping very much at all |
| 15:08.02 | porton | jelly: Yes, not download and upload run with an acceptable speed (not very quick but I can work) |
| 15:08.11 | ChrisH | porton: or they had an issue with their uplink(s) |
| 15:08.13 | jelly | porton: in any case, it's not a Debian problem |
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| 15:10.47 | companion | NTP Keeps changing my time, first it was 17:00 then 12:00 (AM) then it was 14:00 |
| 15:11.02 | companion | how do I avoid these 'jumps' ? |
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| 15:11.52 | Bsims | companion: how far out of sync is your system clock? |
| 15:11.55 | ChrisH | companion: if the difference is > 1000sec there is no way to prevent jumps... unless you run ntpd once and allow it to adjust time once |
| 15:12.39 | companion | daan@pulse207:~$ date |
| 15:12.39 | companion | Fri Mar 8 16:12:28 CET 2013 |
| 15:12.43 | companion | 9its running okay now |
| 15:12.48 | companion | : / |
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| 15:16.02 | ksuhku | companion, is your bios battery dead or almost dead? |
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| 15:16.47 | ksuhku | that'd foul up the hw clock |
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| 15:17.51 | companion | ksuhku, its a dedicated server |
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| 15:18.24 | companion | found out what the problem is TS3 is barfing up the system time from the UK instead of europe |
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| 15:19.42 | ChrisH | TS3? |
| 15:20.47 | rww | teamspeak 3, I assume |
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| 15:22.42 | dashs | petn-randall: doing a wget from http://dl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub did the trick -- thanks |
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| 15:29.47 | ChibaPet | Woot, I can consistently crash now doing back-ups. Dump of ext4 on LVM on LUKS on MD RAID 1 is evidently unstable. |
| 15:30.09 | ChibaPet | Wheezy AMD64 |
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| 15:31.10 | ed8 | how do I sync my server to a ntp server ? |
| 15:31.44 | ChibaPet | apt-get install ntp |
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| 15:32.18 | ChibaPet | Your /etc/ntp.conf will come prepopulated. |
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| 15:32.52 | companion | rww, ChrisH yes team speak 3 |
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| 15:36.12 | ChrisH | ChibaPet: Consider faulty HW |
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| 15:36.23 | ChibaPet | Nah. I'm considering buggy software. |
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| 15:36.50 | ChibaPet | Tracing through logs to find the culprit(s). |
| 15:37.10 | ChrisH | ed8: run ntpq -p after installing to see the etup |
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| 15:38.11 | ChibaPet | My initial suspicion, as yet unproven, is that something was strongly assuming that it would never see this ext4 fs mounted ro,noload |
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| 15:38.13 | ed8 | ChrisH: here is the output : http://pastebin.com/PSb7Z6ah |
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| 15:38.57 | ed8 | I added server fr.pool.ntp.org iburst |
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| 15:39.22 | ChibaPet | When we're explicitly saying not to write and not to touch the journal, seeing the following suggests that something didn't listen hard enough: [<ffffffffa01398e3>] ? jbd2_journal_get_write_access+0x2d/0x38 [jbd2] |
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| 15:39.32 | ed8 | in /etc/ntp.conf and run again the 'ntpq -p' and still got the same date |
| 15:40.01 | ChrisH | ed8: wait until you have 1 * in column 1 before one hostname |
| 15:40.20 | ChibaPet | I guess I'll try mounting writeable and see what happens. Nothing should actually be too impacted. |
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| 15:41.03 | ed8 | ChrisH: in the remote column ? |
| 15:41.39 | ChrisH | ed8: yes... like *liliana.tfgserv... |
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| 15:42.55 | ed8 | I restarted the daemon, remotes changed, but still no asterisk |
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| 15:43.51 | ChrisH | ed8: relax... reach row should change |
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| 15:45.22 | ed8 | ChrisH: nothing |
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| 15:45.46 | ChrisH | show a new output to paste.debian.net please |
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| 15:47.21 | ed8 | ChrisH: http://pastebin.com/kU5DHvCH |
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| 15:48.19 | ChrisH | ed8: how long since you restarted? |
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| 15:49.14 | ed8 | ChrisH: I restarted the whole system before install ntp, I restarted the ntp service ~5min ago |
| 15:49.20 | ChrisH | ed8: it should look like this http://paste.debian.net/240494/ |
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| 15:49.42 | ChrisH | ed8: there seems to be a firewall dropping your ntp requests. |
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| 15:52.50 | dizzylizzy | would y'all say that debian is the "father" of many operating systems or the "mother" of many operating systems |
| 15:52.53 | dizzylizzy | how would you gender debian |
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| 15:56.19 | kaki | debian is neither male nor remale, it's the ancestor of a family of operating systems |
| 15:56.34 | kaki | better: its a ancestor of a family of operating systems |
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| 15:58.10 | somiaj | though is jessie the first female codename? I don't think I know toystory enough to reconize the other ones |
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| 15:59.06 | dizzylizzy | bo |
| 15:59.14 | dizzylizzy | bo as in little bo peep |
| 15:59.20 | AgentHeX | soon, i will be joining the ranks of the wheezy user. |
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| 16:03.14 | dizzylizzy | :D welcome AgentHeX |
| 16:03.18 | dizzylizzy | are you waiting for it to go stable? |
| 16:03.47 | ed8 | ChrisH: what surprise me is that reach/delay/offset/jitter are all null |
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| 16:04.19 | ed8 | but it's probably due to the firewall as I have other problem related to firewall |
| 16:04.21 | AgentHeX | not really. my laptop has been running squeeze since october. i have a machine that i was testing out Steam on Xubuntu, but it borked my xorg.conf and everything went to hell. |
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| 16:04.49 | AgentHeX | so, nuked it and installing wheezy from netinst. |
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| 16:06.48 | ChrisH | ed8: reach==0 means: no server reached at all! |
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| 16:09.33 | ed8 | ChrisH: yep, I don't have control on the firewall so I will forward your info. |
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| 16:12.23 | dizzylizzy | I'm watching a twenty minute video of someone showing his mom Debian 6... listening to her talk herself through it fantastic |
| 16:13.37 | ChrisH | ed8: you could tcpdump on ntp port and check for broadcasts or reconfigure your client for broadcastclient yes as only active line in ntp.conf |
| 16:13.56 | ChrisH | ed8: assuming your company does have ntpds |
| 16:14.00 | unborn | dizzylizzy, my mum use deb :) debian just works |
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| 16:14.48 | dizzylizzy | mmhmm! |
| 16:15.21 | JmZ | anyone here using memcached on debian? https://bugs.launchpad.net/libmemcached/+bug/1152612 |
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| 16:18.38 | ksuhku | unborn, "debian, the distro for moms" this could catch on |
| 16:18.44 | JmZ | ._. |
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| 16:20.38 | unborn | ksuhku, i use debian as server thing and i would not exist without it but - maybe for ordinary linux user could be bit hard or what so ever I find easy peazy that I can ssh her and trouble shoot her in no time also she not broke things as she done it with linuxmint you know what women are in late 70s :) |
| 16:22.31 | ksuhku | unborn, "me too" :) |
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| 16:23.06 | unborn | ksuhku, we are off topic and this should be chatted on offtopic :) you know the rulez |
| 16:23.13 | ksuhku | roger |
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| 16:27.16 | penguin1 | ISC-DHCP-Server: What means this?: WARNING: Host declarations are global. |
| 16:27.36 | penguin1 | A host declaration is something very local, it describes a single host. |
| 16:27.41 | penguin1 | Why is it global suddenly? It doesn't make any sense to me. |
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| 16:41.58 | misster_lonely | w w w . Alba Chat . Al Albanian Chat |
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| 16:46.21 | Skaag | what's the official debian server kernel package? |
| 16:46.30 | Skaag | debian linux kernel I mean |
| 16:46.33 | Skaag | (sorry) |
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| 16:47.22 | rudi_s | Skaag: linux-image-<arch-here> |
| 16:47.31 | rudi_s | E.g. linux-image-amd64 |
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| 16:48.55 | codekK | hi someone know a chanel to vala language prog?? |
| 16:49.10 | Skaag | ok I found linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 16:49.13 | Skaag | it says it's already installed |
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| 16:49.25 | rudi_s | Skaag: So you have a kernel installed. |
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| 16:49.28 | Skaag | but uname tells me the -pve version is installed, I want to switch from that to the regular one |
| 16:49.40 | Skaag | do I have to edit grub manually? |
| 16:49.43 | Skaag | it's a remote box |
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| 16:50.25 | Skaag | ok looks like I just need to reboot |
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| 17:02.54 | kaste | hello, I just rebooted my server for the first time and now i get /dev/Rootvg/Rootlv: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 11689459712: Input/output error |
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| 17:03.19 | kaste | well I get something different about finding the root volume but this is what vgs outputs |
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| 17:03.43 | kaste | what could be the cause? Is there a way to save this volume? |
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| 17:06.40 | jhutchins_wk | kaste: Do you have smartmontools installed? Does the system boot? Have you done an fsck on the volume? |
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| 17:08.10 | kaste | a) installing b) no c) fsck.ext2: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/mapper/Rootvg-Rootlv |
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| 17:08.21 | phunyguy | jhutchins_wk: did you get my message from earlier about the package manager? |
| 17:09.08 | phunyguy | Debian KDE DOES have one, it just didn't get pulled in when I installed kde-full. |
| 17:09.14 | phunyguy | It's called Apper. |
| 17:09.15 | dizzylizzy | I have a friend. He wants to run XP on his laptop with networking disabled. Then, he wants to run a Debian Live image inside of virtualbox (WITH networking), with a separate virtual hard drive where he stores email from his email program and web browsing downloads (for some persistence). Does this make ANY sense to any of you? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me. |
| 17:09.30 | phunyguy | brb |
| 17:10.20 | kaste | dizzylizzy: it could, if your friends uses the actual physical network device, but doesn't really seem like gaining a lot of security if that's the goal |
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| 17:10.32 | kaste | the other way round might make more sense |
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| 17:11.11 | h00k | kaste: it can be done, if he sets his Windows IP to something nonsensical, bridges the virtual intervace, and sets up his VM on whatever network he wants. It sounds really silly/roundabout, but that would let it work. |
| 17:11.43 | h00k | by intervace I meant interface. |
| 17:11.50 | dizzylizzy | kaste, yeah, but he's really insistent that XP be on the host and that he not touch that partition |
| 17:12.01 | dizzylizzy | :-/ I'm about to give up on him |
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| 17:12.58 | rww | dare I ask why he doesn't just run Debian on his laptop with networking disabled? |
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| 17:13.09 | rww | this is what I did. also physically removed the wifi chip. yay airgaps |
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| 17:16.38 | kaste | jhutchins_wk: any idea? |
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| 17:17.49 | dmilith | hi |
| 17:17.56 | dmilith | where can I find iconv-dev ? |
| 17:18.08 | dmilith | I'm looking to find iconv library in debian 6, but no luck |
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| 17:18.15 | dmilith | what happened to that package? |
| 17:18.22 | dizzylizzy | rww, he doesn't have an XP install CD and refuses to change his partitions at all |
| 17:18.30 | rww | ah |
| 17:18.54 | dizzylizzy | I think he should just use a second computer |
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| 17:22.13 | jhutchins_wk | phunyguy: Strictly speaking those aren't package managers - that's still handled by dpkg and the apt tools, but they're wrappers/frontends/applets that make the update task easier. |
| 17:22.34 | jhutchins_wk | kaste: My strong feeling is that you've lost the physical volume. |
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| 17:23.06 | jhutchins_wk | kaste: I do not mess with LVM so I can't say for shure what can go wrong with this. Is this volume associated with one or more whole devices? |
| 17:23.52 | kaste | I am unsure of what that means |
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| 17:24.17 | jhutchins_wk | dizzylizzy: The XP box will have networking, it might not use it. Yeah, he's making work for himself probably to no good end. |
| 17:24.21 | kaste | I have two usb sticks, with a partition each used as a raid1 |
| 17:24.28 | kaste | then i put an lvm inside that |
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| 17:24.49 | jhutchins_wk | kaste: So it spanned the two disks? |
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| 17:25.05 | kaste | yes |
| 17:25.21 | borsuk | exit |
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| 17:26.53 | Skaag | is there a package for debian 6.0 with a stable, recent kernel? |
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| 17:27.19 | jelly | Skaag: read this for a 3.2.x kernel: /msg dpkg bdo kernel |
| 17:27.52 | jhutchins_wk | kaste: This is a good example of why I recommend not doing that. One of the devices either has some serious errors (which you might recover from by reformatting), or has failed completely. |
| 17:28.18 | jelly | Skaag: it's a bit outdated at the moment, based on 3.2.35 while current is 3.2.40 |
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| 17:28.29 | jhutchins_wk | kaste: "Anything that you have only on flash you don't really have." |
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| 17:29.33 | pzn | have an oldoldold server... can I upgrade from etch to squeeze "at once"? |
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| 17:30.48 | jelly | pzn: no. You absolutely have to go release by release, because there are specific fixes to facilitate upgrades from X to X+1 that get removed in release X+2 |
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| 17:32.29 | Skaag | cool |
| 17:32.55 | Skaag | I need help fixing a system, I have a rescue image loaded and it looks like update-grub is having trouble writing to the boot partition |
| 17:33.22 | zophy | how do you feel about that ? |
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| 17:34.04 | Skaag | rotten |
| 17:34.06 | Skaag | ) |
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| 17:35.05 | pzn | jelly, thanks. that is what I imagined :-) |
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| 17:35.57 | Theoden | question: I understand that if my repos are set to testing, when wheezy goes stable, I will receive a flow of updates that will no longer be for wheezy, but the next release. Is this liable make my current install unstable? |
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| 17:36.42 | somiaj | Theoden: there is a lot of times a large flood of new packages right after a release |
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| 17:37.08 | Theoden | somiaj: Yes ....\ |
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| 17:37.17 | somiaj | Theoden: so right now many packages are sitting in expermential to drop into sid once the release happens, and then they may start dropping into testing. This can break things. Usually it is suggested to use 'wheezy' as your sources.list |
| 17:37.30 | Skaag | when I run grub-instal /dev/sda it tells me /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: no such disk. |
| 17:37.38 | Skaag | and then this: Auto-detection of a filesystem of /dev/mapper/vg0-root failed. |
| 17:37.51 | somiaj | Theoden: then if and when the desire to run testing comes again, change it to jessi. For the most part if wheezy is working fine for you, you don't need a pesudo moving target and should just stick with stable. |
| 17:38.15 | Theoden | somiaj: How long then should I need to run wheezy before moving to testing? |
| 17:38.36 | somiaj | Theoden: up to you, my suggestion is you stay with wheezy and learn to use backports |
| 17:38.58 | somiaj | Theoden: unless you have a compelling reason to run testing (do you submit bug reports, do you want to actually 'test' the next debian release or do you just want newer software) |
| 17:40.04 | Theoden | somiaj: Newer software I suppose. I understand that backports will give me this, |
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| 17:40.47 | somiaj | I personally run sid (I think it has some advantages over testing). But I do it beause I enjoy fixing things when it breaks. So you are free to choose what you want to. But if you have to ask 'should I run testing' the answer is most likely no. (: |
| 17:41.15 | phunyguy | jhutchins_wk: well I assumed correctly that you knew what I meant. And Apper prompts accordingly for updates. Thanks |
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| 17:41.35 | Theoden | somiaj: Thanks. |
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| 17:42.46 | dr4kk4r^ | ;-) |
| 17:42.54 | AgentHeX | ugh. so i guess it's standard Gnome to replace logical hierarchy of menus with a search box. whoever decided that would be the norm should have their Comp Sci degree revoked. |
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| 17:43.43 | rryoumaa | are backports copious enough to make running stable a competitive option against other oses that have a "testing-level" recency? |
| 17:44.15 | rudi_s | rryoumaa: Depends if you need many "up-to-date" programs and if you're willing to backport them on your own. |
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| 17:44.52 | Essobi | Is this the appropriate channel to ask about Debian-armel? |
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| 17:45.05 | rryoumaa | i guess i want to be able to justify debian against the accusation that stable is too old, testing is not fully supported, and unstable changes too quickly, and looking for ideas |
| 17:45.18 | babilen | Essobi: There is #debian-arm on irc.debian.org (aka irc.oftc.net) |
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| 17:45.54 | mtn | rryoumaa: what is too old is a value judgement every user must make for themselves |
| 17:45.56 | Essobi | babilen: Thanks... It might be a generic question thou... I'm not sure... It's been a damn long time since I've done any of this... |
| 17:46.43 | Essobi | Is there anything special I need to do when building a new kernel to get it to start the installer from an initrd installer image? |
| 17:46.51 | babilen | Essobi: A question that has not been asked will not be answered -- I simply wanted to point you to "the" arm(el|hf) channel. |
| 17:46.59 | Iridos | rryoumaa, this is much easier if you make a list of programs which you think should be recent and compare that to what's in backports... |
| 17:47.08 | Essobi | babilen: touche |
| 17:47.15 | Essobi | babilen: thanks |
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| 17:47.49 | babilen | Essobi: You could also ask that in #debian-boot (which is the installer specific channel) -- You want to create a custom installer with your kernel? |
| 17:47.58 | rryoumaa | Iridos: good idea |
| 17:48.00 | Iridos | rryoumaa, other things are simple to backport yourself, others are a pain. so it's difficult to answer this in a generic allround kind of way |
| 17:48.49 | Essobi | babilen: I've got a prebuilt arm initrd I'm using.. the kernel that was packaged with it wouldn't boot on this device, so I made a new kernel.. it's booting now but panics on unable to mount root= because I didn't spec one in the boot options.. |
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| 17:50.15 | rryoumaa | huh, no emacs in debian backports search. stable isn't for me i guess. |
| 17:50.31 | babilen | Essobi: Is this Debian or something along the lines of raspbian? I am aware of http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Modify/CustomKernel but am not sure how that relates to armel and its installer. (sorry, not my domain at all) |
| 17:51.08 | Essobi | It's an squeeze installer-armel initrd.gz. |
| 17:51.14 | Essobi | an official |
| 17:51.16 | babilen | rryoumaa: wheezy is perfectly usable for end users these days IMHO (see "/msg dpkg install wheezy" and "/msg dpkg wheezy release notes") |
| 17:51.30 | Essobi | babilen: thanks.. think I'll poke the arm guys. |
| 17:51.46 | babilen | Essobi: Sure, good luck! |
| 17:51.50 | rryoumaa | babilen: i meant in general. in 2 years wheezy will be old. (to me.) |
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| 17:52.09 | Essobi | babilen: thanks.. |
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| 17:52.37 | Essobi | babilen: I'm going to piss a corp off terribly by doing this, and make a some home consumers happy. :D |
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| 17:54.00 | babilen | rryoumaa: Backport it yourself or run testing/sid (with the drawbacks of doing that). There are also plenty of other distributions you might find more to your liking. |
| 17:54.02 | subthalamus | hello, I'm curious to know where I might find a complete list of packages available for the mips port? |
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| 17:54.39 | subthalamus | basically, I'm wondering what packages will be available if I get debwrt working on an rt-n16 |
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| 17:55.26 | rryoumaa | babilen: i prefer debian; ubuntu would drive me nuts and non-debian distros would drive me nuts. but i am trying to get a sense of this subject. |
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| 17:58.07 | AgentHeX | well, apparently Xubuntu isn't the only thing to shat the bed upon installing nvidia's driver. *sigh* |
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| 17:58.39 | AgentHeX | except now i have no idea where xorg.conf is. i guess it doesn't matter, though. nothing works right. |
| 17:59.05 | mooglenorph | Hi, I'm running squeeze. After hibernating my laptop, the font on my ttys changes. |
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| 17:59.34 | babilen | AgentHeX: How did you install the driver? Did you follow "/msg dpkg nvidia dkms" ? |
| 17:59.45 | mooglenorph | From a nice font (I think terminus or something?) to something blockier and less appealing. How do I set fonts in tty's, and how can I keep this from happening when I come back up from hibernate? |
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| 18:01.50 | zykotick9 | mooglenorph: to choose/reset fonts you can use "dpkg-reconfigure console-setup". not sure about preventing/hibernate issue, good luck. |
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| 18:02.26 | mooglenorph | zykotick9: thanks, I'll look into that |
| 18:03.36 | blubberdiblub | you could set the font back to the configured one on return from suspend-to-disk. or you could use a framebuffer console instead of plain text mode |
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| 18:06.40 | companion | I keep getting: [warn] mod_fcgid: process PID graceful kill fail, sending SIGKILL |
| 18:06.58 | companion | I am working on it for a week now, it happens hourly and also locks up the entire server (temporarly) |
| 18:07.29 | companion | checked google and many other resources, it is Debian 6 (Squeeze) |
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| 18:09.18 | AgentHeX | babilen: i just used synaptic to install the metapackage for nvidia drivers. |
| 18:10.08 | subthalamus | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:10.30 | AgentHeX | it took the liberty of hosing my x.org config. |
| 18:10.45 | AgentHeX | screw it. time to try arch. |
| 18:10.52 | AgentHeX | if that fails, it's back to gentoo. |
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| 18:11.12 | mooglenorph | blubberdiblub: How do I set up a framebuffer console? Is that a kernel boot param or something? This laptop doesn't have X installed. |
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| 18:13.03 | babilen | AgentHeX: Well, generally speaking: "/msg dpkg nvidia dkms" work (or "/msg dpkg nvidia dkms wheezy") -- That assumes that your GPU is actually supported by that driver version (check on ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/ in the README and "/msg judd v nvidia-kernel-dkms") |
| 18:13.25 | babilen | AgentHeX: But yeah, hope you enjoy a different distribution. |
| 18:13.30 | babilen | *works |
| 18:13.35 | companion | any one knows how to the wheezy mirror for the fcgid package? |
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| 18:17.03 | blubberdiblub | mooglenorph, usually it comes up with framebuffer console by itself if you don't prevent it. that is, if the correct modules are installed and it detects your graphics card |
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| 18:17.40 | anddam | hi, I'd like to restart lighttpd whenever its auth file (plain backend) is changed. is there a way to hook on a file change or should I just polling its content with a periodic script? |
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| 18:21.21 | abrotman | anddam: depends how you manage that file |
| 18:21.32 | mooglenorph | blubberdiblub: weird. That seems to be happ;ening, but not on coming back up from hibernate. |
| 18:22.07 | blubberdiblub | mooglenorph, i see. that would explain the different font then |
| 18:23.01 | anddam | abrotman: what kind of file managements are there? |
| 18:23.22 | anddam | abrotman: anyway I think you have a point there, it won't be edited but most likely replaced |
| 18:23.49 | anddam | so I'll go with a crontab script that will check the hash and, if changed, will restart lighttpd |
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| 18:25.02 | anddam | how should I let a periodic script restart a server? running the script with root permissions or as an user, calling invoke-rc.d with sudo and editing sudoers accordingly? |
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| 18:26.53 | anddam | an user that is accessing the document root via ftp has asked for the ability to specify httpd users, so I'm gonna give him access to lighttpd auth file. Any obvious objection to this? |
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| 18:31.54 | whee | I have a recent debian installation; apt-get upgrade didn't seem to care to install anything, but aptitude had a lot of recommended installations that were "manually selected" for install |
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| 18:32.12 | whee | I don't remember selecting them, but they seemed to make sense to have anyway. Any idea how it figures out that list? |
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| 18:32.59 | anddam | abrotman: ping? |
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| 18:45.59 | abrotman | anddam: sorry, was on a call |
| 18:46.06 | abrotman | anddam: what was your question ? |
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| 18:47.48 | sanfran | how do i connect to my VPN on Debian? the instructions i have are https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/client-support/#ubuntu_openvpn which are, obviously, for Ubuntu. |
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| 18:48.50 | whee | sanfran: those look like it'd be very similar if not the same for debian |
| 18:49.34 | sanfran | but they're not. i can't do step 7, everything is greyed out. |
| 18:49.48 | sanfran | they're not working* |
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| 18:50.09 | sanfran | trys something |
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| 18:50.49 | sanfran | i thought disconnected might allow me to change the settings |
| 18:50.58 | sanfran | i think i need privileges... |
| 18:51.31 | whee | do you have openvpn installed? |
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| 18:51.36 | sanfran | indeed |
| 18:52.13 | sanfran | but it's only in su's path |
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| 18:54.00 | sanfran | i can use it as sanfran. so, this should be enough. i want to set it up through SSH, because i use a lot of public services, and they mostly just allow 80. |
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| 19:01.07 | tw | Hi, trying to make a grub2 usb boot disk via these commands: http://pastebin.com/9F0eKh3z All I want is a grub console, what I get is "Grub loadingRead Error" |
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| 19:04.49 | anddam | abrotman: I was thinking out loud that the lighty auth file won't be actually changed but rather replaced via ftp so I guess a periodic polling is the best option |
| 19:05.11 | anddam | abrotman: I need to restart lighttpd service from a periodic script, what's the correct way to achieve this? |
| 19:05.38 | anddam | I can think of: a) running the script in system's (root) crontab |
| 19:05.52 | abrotman | anddam: you could .. if you were using something like puppet, it has built in mechanisms for this .. a cron script or .. uhm, iwatch will work just as well |
| 19:06.08 | anddam | b) run the script as user, call "sudo invoke-rc.d" in the script, edit sudoers accordingly |
| 19:06.17 | anddam | idk puppet |
| 19:06.33 | anddam | and no factoid about it |
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| 19:07.48 | acu | hello - so it seem that there are 127 release critical bugs for Wheezy - that means that we are almost there ~ 1 month to the final release ? |
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| 19:17.41 | anddam | abrotman: so what would be the "right" (more debian-ish) way to run such a script? |
| 19:18.03 | anddam | also I stopped vsftpd service but still I see :48528 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 16098/vsftpd with netstat |
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| 19:18.34 | anddam | is there a stray process of an user that was logged when I stopped the server? |
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| 19:19.00 | anddam | yep, vsftpd.log confirms that, still uploading |
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| 19:19.15 | anddam | I thought stopping the service would kill running sessions |
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| 19:29.50 | anew | -bash: mail: command not found |
| 19:29.51 | anew | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:29.57 | anew | what should i do here |
| 19:29.59 | anew | i have postfix installed |
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| 19:30.04 | anew | i restarted |
| 19:30.06 | anew | and then got this |
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| 19:38.09 | atannus | Hi. I'm having trouble installing oracle-java-7 via webupd8 ppa. Does anyone know of an alternative method/source of packages? Google will only tell me solutions related to the webupd8 pkg, which is in fact for ubuntu 12.04... |
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| 19:38.49 | atannus | This _was_ working on my previous installation of Debian 6.0.6, but I can't get it to work on 6.0.7. |
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| 19:39.13 | matlads | now that the installer is in rc, would it be beneficial to update to testing? |
| 19:39.59 | atannus | matlads, is that for me? |
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| 19:40.47 | matlads | atannus: no, sorry. |
| 19:40.51 | mtn | matlads: wheezy is very nice, if that is what you want to know |
| 19:40.51 | atannus | ;) |
| 19:41.09 | atannus | didn't like wheezy. :/ |
| 19:41.29 | mtn | atannus: very sad, I am sure |
| 19:41.40 | anddam | anew: install a MTA, I'd say |
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| 19:41.43 | matlads | mtn: is the rate of change almost as slow as for stable? if so I can dist upgrade my laptop over this weekend |
| 19:41.45 | atannus | mtn, I didn't like gnome3 tbh. |
| 19:42.03 | anddam | atannus: oh, I missed the postfix line |
| 19:42.05 | mtn | atannus: I figured. some don't, lots do like it |
| 19:42.18 | anddam | atannus: that was meant for anew |
| 19:42.23 | anew | fatal: open database /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd.db: Invalid argument |
| 19:42.25 | matlads | atannus: never really liked gnome anyway |
| 19:42.27 | anew | now getting this error |
| 19:43.03 | mtn | matlads: wheezy is mostly getting bug fixes at this time |
| 19:43.24 | atannus | :) Well, does anyone have java7 running on squeeze?? OR perhaps could test-run the webupd8 stuff and see if it works? I don't have another squeeze box handy... eeep |
| 19:44.04 | atannus | !pastebin |
| 19:44.05 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 19:44.05 | abrotman | anddam: iwatch might be a good way to do it |
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| 19:46.56 | atannus | Here's the end of the output... http://pastie.org/6423769 |
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| 19:47.05 | atannus | (btw, paste.debian is not working...) |
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| 19:50.29 | jhutchins_wk | atannus: Looks fine from here. Typo? |
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| 19:52.11 | atannus | jhutchins_wk, its complaining about special chars... the title was 'oracle-java-7' and the paste was plain text... |
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| 19:54.57 | jhutchins_wk | atannus: It's possible you copied something you couldn't see. Had that happen with RHN a while back, they would never own up to it. |
| 19:55.27 | atannus | possible, yes, likely, no... I copied from the terminal... utf-8... |
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| 19:57.19 | atannus | jhutchins_wk, my bad, 11 chars! ;) here's working one: http://paste.debian.net/240535/ |
| 19:57.43 | atannus | recounts his fingers. |
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| 20:00.01 | atannus | Why the hell is it installing the 64bit version on my 32bit system? Has debian gone bonkers? |
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| 20:07.08 | matlock | so say i have a softfax |
| 20:07.25 | matlock | er.. softmodem that I wish to use as a fax |
| 20:07.36 | matlock | can i pass the hw to virtualbox so windows can see it so i can fax? |
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| 20:09.54 | Towzzer | That would be a com port |
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| 20:12.40 | thebwt | is there a channel specifically for live-build? |
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| 20:13.24 | rryoumaa | there is #debian-live i think |
| 20:13.55 | dizzylizzy | there is #debian-live, but it's on OFTC |
| 20:14.31 | dizzylizzy | irc.oftc.net:6667 |
| 20:14.54 | thebwt | dizzylizzy: thanks |
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| 20:16.42 | jhutchins_wk | matlock: Should be able to , but this is not #vbox |
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| 20:20.48 | shdw_work | I'm trying to add repos for squeeze-backports and sid to sources.list. I added the same lines I've used on other machine, but for some reason apt-get update doesn't seem to be adding them here. |
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| 20:21.08 | zamaliphe | unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock failed (2: No such file or directory) while connecting to upstream |
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| 20:21.23 | shdw_work | when looking for packages (aptitude search bash/sid) it tells me Unable to find an archive "sid" |
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| 20:22.16 | shdw_work | I've tried apt-get clean and autoclean. I'm at a loss what I should try next to get the package lists loaded |
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| 20:23.20 | jhutchins_wk | shdw_work: You do not want to add sid to another release. That's officially known as "broken". |
| 20:23.50 | jhutchins_wk | !frankendebian |
| 20:23.52 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 20:24.00 | shdw_work | ok but I have exactly the same results with squeeze-backports |
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| 20:24.47 | shdw_work | just this one machine. Others have loaded up backports with no issues |
| 20:24.47 | jhutchins_wk | shdw_work: What results? |
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| 20:25.28 | jhutchins_wk | shdw_work: Did you follow the instructions on the web page? |
| 20:25.39 | shdw_work | "aptitude show bash/squeeze-backports" gives me an error Unable to find an archive "squeeze-backports" for the package "bash" |
| 20:25.52 | shdw_work | yes. And its the same line that I have on my other machines |
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| 20:26.11 | shdw_work | I even copied & pasted from the web page again just to make sure |
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| 20:27.51 | jhutchins_wk | shdw_work: It's telling you that bash is not in backports. |
| 20:28.33 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions bash |
| 20:28.34 | judd | Package: bash on i386 -- lenny: 3.2-4; squeeze: 4.1-3; sid: 4.2+dfsg-0.1; wheezy: 4.2+dfsg-0.1 |
| 20:28.40 | jhutchins_wk | Not in backports. |
| 20:28.56 | shdw_work | sorry, that was just an example |
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| 20:29.09 | shdw_work | aptitude show kde-plasma-desktop/squeeze-backports |
| 20:29.38 | shdw_work | kde-plasma-desktop is actually the one I was looking for, which according to my other machine, that package does exist in backports |
| 20:30.51 | jhutchins_wk | shdw_work: Try for instance aptitude show -t squeeze-backports uno |
| 20:31.16 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions kde-plasma-desktop |
| 20:31.17 | judd | Package: kde-plasma-desktop on i386 -- squeeze: 5:66; sid: 5:77; wheezy: 5:77 |
| 20:31.27 | jhutchins_wk | Again, not in backports. |
| 20:31.48 | jhutchins_wk | shdw_work: That's what that message means. |
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| 20:32.22 | shdw_work | erg... yeah I see the failure on my other machine too. Missed that before |
| 20:32.27 | shdw_work | ok, let's step back a moment |
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| 20:33.16 | shdw_work | I'm trying to pull kde-plasma-desktop from sid because that has version 4.8, as opposed to v4.4 in squeeze. This was the reason I was trying to add sid in the first place |
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| 20:34.22 | HS^ | if debian has a new release, will apt-get upgrade automaticly update to the new release? |
| 20:34.30 | HS^ | (wheezy ) |
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| 20:34.49 | qwertyomen | anyone have some advice for setting up a dhcp/pxe boot server? |
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| 20:36.50 | shdw_work | qwertyomen, dnsmasq is a nice simple program for getting dhcp running. For pxe I think you need to start with a tftp setup? |
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| 20:38.15 | shdw_work | jhutchins_wk, I realize mixing squeeze and sid can make a mess of things. I'm not asking for support of a hosed system, I'm just trying to figure out why when adding the line for sid to sources.list, apt does not seem to be actually reading the repo. |
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| 20:38.46 | qwertyomen | shdw_work: just need to boot linux disk images, doesn't dnsmasq support pxe too? |
| 20:38.50 | mtn | HS^: if you are tracking stable vs. squeeze, then yes it will. probably won't be pretty, either. :) |
| 20:39.20 | ChrisH | ~ |
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| 20:40.04 | shdw_work | qwertyomen, I don't know if it does, but I have not seen any suggestion of support in the config file. PXE needs a tftp service to draw the images from. |
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| 20:42.39 | qwertyomen | shdw_work: ... Oh yeah ok now I remember... I set one up a while ago and I can't remember all the little things it needed |
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| 20:42.47 | jhutchins_wk | shdw_work: Did you try the query I suggested? |
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| 20:43.41 | anomaly | 3 computers on a lan. all debian. 2 can ping out. I can ssh into the 3rd and access its webpage from the other two. however, whilst the other two can ping say google.com, this one can not. what should I be looking at? since I can ssh and view the webpage.. it should not be a connectivity issue in the traditional sense. |
| 20:44.22 | qwertyomen | shdw_work: tftp was the missing link I needed, thanks! |
| 20:44.33 | jhutchins_wk | anomaly: Either netmask or gateeway is wrong. |
| 20:45.14 | qwertyomen | anomaly: can you ping an IP address? |
| 20:45.50 | qwertyomen | anomaly: *external IP... like 8.8.8.8 |
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| 20:47.28 | anomaly | qwertyomen, may be a dns issue then. as 8.8.8.8 worked |
| 20:47.33 | cobber | Hello, when I installed Linux Mint I am always su? |
| 20:47.51 | qwertyomen | anomaly: that's what it sounds like |
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| 20:48.24 | cobber | I use the same password to login to the desktop, so I am logged in all the time as su? |
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| 20:49.24 | mtn | cobber: you should go ask #linuxmint on spotchat, I believe |
| 20:49.38 | greycat|home | judd: device 1969:1091 |
| 20:49.43 | qwertyomen | cobber: what shows up on your terminal is it a # or a $ |
| 20:50.25 | cobber | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:50.41 | qwertyomen | then your a normal user |
| 20:50.51 | shdw_work | jhutchins_wk, sorry, work called. Yeah I tried "aptitude show -t sid kde-plasma-desktop" and it works on one machine (showing version 4.8.8), but gives an oerror on this other machine (Unable to find an archive "sid") |
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| 20:51.17 | anomaly | jhutchins_wk, qwertyomen, thank you |
| 20:51.22 | cobber | ahh ok ,It must be somehow hooked up to the gui |
| 20:51.23 | qwertyomen | cobber: you're probly gonna have to use sudo su to become admin now |
| 20:51.36 | cobber | because I use the su password to login |
| 20:51.41 | ChrisH | cobber: if id -a shows uid=0 you are root uid !=0 a normal user... assuming you are on Debian. dunno Mint |
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| 20:52.14 | cobber | I came here because Mint is Based on DEbian |
| 20:52.23 | greycat|home | judd: pciid 1969:1091 |
| 20:52.24 | judd | [1969:1091] is 'AR8161 Gigabit Ethernet' from 'Qualcomm Atheros' with no known kernel module in squeeze but has kernel module 'alx' in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1969:1091 |
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| 20:52.30 | qwertyomen | cobber: it actually follows ubuntu rules |
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| 20:52.55 | greycat|home | Given ^^^ how should I proceed to get Debian installed onto this machine? The wheezy CD I have didn't work, but it's not the latest wheezy RC/beta/whatever. |
| 20:53.05 | cobber | I thought Ubuntu was based on Debian. |
| 20:53.07 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell cobber about mint |
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| 20:53.15 | mtn | cobber: as I pointed out, mint has it's own channel. |
| 20:53.17 | jhutchins_wk | shdw_work: I don't know that the -t sid switch works the same way as squeeze backports, but you're not supposed to do that anyway, so.... |
| 20:53.18 | shingouz | is there a way to make the colored ok/fail/info/warn-thingies go away from the boot messages and get the boot to look like it used to be sometime in the stone age? |
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| 20:54.10 | jhutchins_wk | !mint |
| 20:54.11 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
| 20:54.11 | kondor | jhutchins_wk: Error: "mint" is not a valid command. |
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| 20:54.41 | jhutchins_wk | Do we have a stray bot here? |
| 20:55.06 | jhutchins_wk | shingouz: Why? |
| 20:55.27 | jhutchins_wk | shingouz: And what is it you want it to look like? |
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| 20:55.58 | cobber | Thanks |
| 20:56.22 | shingouz | jhutchins_wk: it makes me think i am running knoppix... do you remember how a debian boot used to look like in the stone age? no colored ok/fail stuff there, just "starting MTA..." etc |
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| 20:57.11 | greycat|home | hmm, wheezy installer RC1 is newer than my CD, so maybe I can try that... |
| 20:57.38 | shdw_work | jhutchins_wk, is there a way to wipe out the info that apt has so that when I do an update it forces all the info to reload from scratch? |
| 20:57.48 | greycat|home | (although I don't see the alx driver listed on the announcement page...) :( |
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| 21:00.29 | lotuswrench | help |
| 21:00.40 | lotuswrench | okthen |
| 21:01.10 | reavengrey | learned something new from watching dlift for what...1 hour? |
| 21:01.11 | timekiller | shdw_work: not sure what you are speaking about, but normally just cleaning the cache ? |
| 21:01.12 | reavengrey | god this guy |
| 21:01.18 | reavengrey | wrong chan |
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| 21:01.32 | lotuswrench | so, I wanna know where to read about bash scripting, specifically I want to output text in a line one character at a time (like a 300 baud connection) |
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| 21:02.31 | shdw_work | timekiller, I did apt-get clea/autoclean. I'm not trying to get rid of the cached debs though. I'm just wondering it apt's info has gotten corrupted and perhaps I can delete that somehow to start fresh? |
| 21:02.32 | timekiller | use awk lotuswrench |
| 21:02.42 | lotuswrench | goin with a wargames feel to my shitty debian box, and want it it spit out stuff like "GREETINGS PROFESSOR FALKEN" when logging in |
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| 21:03.56 | timekiller | maybe try aptitude reinstall apt --purge or something like that but be careful before using such comand... |
| 21:04.17 | timekiller | do not remember the syntax exaclty |
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| 21:04.31 | shingouz | lotuswrench: put that stuff into /etc/motd perhaps? |
| 21:04.59 | lotuswrench | I got that far, but I want it to spit out one character at a time ala 300 baud modem connection |
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| 21:05.26 | lotuswrench | so I'm thinking a bash script |
| 21:05.44 | shingouz | geek :) |
| 21:06.09 | greycat|home | Bash would be rather inefficient for that because it would have to call sleep(1) for every character. |
| 21:06.33 | greycat|home | It could be done though. |
| 21:06.40 | lotuswrench | right now it asks if I want to play a game, and displays an ascii tic tac toe board |
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| 21:07.19 | lotuswrench | sleep one is also probably litterally a second too, aint it |
| 21:07.32 | greycat|home | GNU sleep takes fractional arguments |
| 21:07.46 | anddam | lotuswrench: what greycat said |
| 21:07.56 | octocpp | I have a drive that failed out of an array. I have since cleared the superblock, and want to force mdadm to --re-add the drive into slot 1 where is originally was. However, I can not get it to stop going into slot 2? It seems my only option is to --add it and it goes in as a spare, and I cant seem to free up slot 1 ? |
| 21:08.19 | rww | lotuswrench: greeting="GREETINGS PROFESSOR FALKEN";i=0; while (( i++ < ${#greeting} )); do char=$(expr substr "$greeting" $i 1); echo -n "$char"; sleep 1; done |
| 21:08.26 | rww | lotuswrench: stolen and modified from http://www.unix.com/shell-programming-scripting/67048-korn-how-loop-through-string-character-character.html |
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| 21:08.35 | greycat|home | string='hello world'; n=${#string}; for ((i=0; i<n; i++)); do printf %s "${string:i:1}"; sleep 0.1; done |
| 21:08.47 | anddam | lotuswrench: also expect(1) comes to mind |
| 21:08.49 | greycat|home | expr? ewww. :0P |
| 21:09.05 | rww | I don't even know what it does, I just modified it \o/ |
| 21:09.53 | greycat|home | Mine uses a lot fewer forks. |
| 21:10.16 | greycat|home | It still has to fork a sleep for every character -- there's no way around that in bash. |
| 21:10.20 | anddam | greycat|home: does command subst fork? |
| 21:10.23 | anddam | actually makes sense |
| 21:10.30 | greycat|home | expr does. |
| 21:10.47 | greycat|home | $() usually will, but I think there may be some situations where it doesn't... can't swear to that |
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| 21:10.49 | anddam | lotuswrench: why has it to be in bash? |
| 21:11.09 | anddam | greycat|home: I've since left bash for happier (most of the times) place |
| 21:11.12 | greycat|home | Anyway, the one I gave will work if he doesn't care about CPU efficiency. |
| 21:11.47 | anddam | he's simulating the l&f of a 300baud modem, I doubt efficiency matters |
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| 21:28.26 | kristianjgs | Can I to install ubuntu apps on debian Cut? |
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| 21:28.51 | Nik05 | what is debian cut? |
| 21:29.36 | kristianjgs | http://cut.debian.net/ |
| 21:29.38 | Nik05 | ask in cut channel or something |
| 21:29.55 | Nik05 | kristianjgs: what application do you need? |
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| 21:31.02 | kristianjgs | fisrt I will install debian Cut and I wanna install kde 4.10.1, steam, skype, filezilla, and others |
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| 21:32.30 | Nik05 | filezilla and kde are both in debian probably also in "CUT" |
| 21:32.37 | Nik05 | but ask in #cut or something |
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| 21:34.42 | bazhang | kondor, greetings |
| 21:34.42 | kondor | bazhang: Error: "greetings" is not a valid command. |
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| 21:48.15 | shingouz | looks like the "fancy output" can be disabled pretty easily, finding the information on the net was a bit tricky though. lsb-base-logging.sh with FANCYTTY=0 is the trick. now if i can remember how to teach dpkg all this... |
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| 21:48.27 | Success | Hello guys |
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| 21:51.50 | zmode | hi. i have a debian squeeze box on which a regular user, instead of root, gets system mail. any idea on where i might have mis-set this? |
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| 21:52.23 | rww | zmode: /etc/aliases usually has a bunch of aliases pointing to root. perhaps in your case it also has root pointing to some user |
| 21:52.27 | jbroome | check /etc/aliases |
| 21:52.30 | jbroome | doh |
| 21:52.36 | rww | zmode: edit, then sudo newaliases |
| 21:52.50 | petemc | not needed for exim |
| 21:52.54 | petemc | exim -bt root |
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| 21:52.58 | rww | ah, okay. I postfix :) |
| 21:53.41 | zmode | indeed such an entry exists, rww |
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| 21:54.20 | zmode | rww: thanks a lot |
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| 21:54.30 | rww | you're welcome |
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| 22:12.08 | kingsley | Is there something like a command line tool or Firefox plugin that accepts a URL as input and reports whether the web site is running WordPress, Drupal or another content management system? |
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| 22:12.46 | Spec | kingsley: nmap? |
| 22:12.57 | Spec | nagios' check_http |
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| 22:16.48 | soomsoom | looking for app that make me a frames and windows and getting information via MySQL |
| 22:16.53 | soomsoom | there is something like that? |
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| 22:19.15 | Towzzer | soomsoom, do you want a program that makes a graphical representation of a schema? |
| 22:20.12 | soomsoom | Towzzer: no, Like MS ACCESS just for MySQL |
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| 22:20.17 | Towzzer | oh |
| 22:20.24 | Towzzer | heidisql is good |
| 22:20.32 | Towzzer | mysql workbench |
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| 22:20.57 | Towzzer | heidisql is the best free one |
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| 22:21.14 | soomsoom | Towzzer: you can make with that Window? and place items in that window? and o macros? |
| 22:21.38 | Towzzer | I'm not sure what you mean |
| 22:21.43 | Towzzer | it's a graphical front end to mysql |
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| 22:22.32 | soomsoom | Towzzer: do you know wavemaker/ |
| 22:22.34 | soomsoom | ? |
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| 22:24.04 | Towzzer | no |
| 22:24.12 | Towzzer | I use sound forge and audition |
| 22:24.36 | soomsoom | Towzzer: its make you gui for your DB. |
| 22:24.52 | soomsoom | Towzzer: i'm looking something like that to MySQL |
| 22:25.01 | soomsoom | Towzzer: its using hsqldb |
| 22:25.26 | wakd | fishsponge: you here? |
| 22:25.32 | Towzzer | sorry, I just use heidi for management |
| 22:25.35 | Towzzer | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:26.19 | soomsoom | Towzzer: for management i'm using the Shell :D |
| 22:26.45 | soomsoom | Towzzer: i'm to lazy to develop something in Java for my MySQL project ;x |
| 22:26.51 | soomsoom | *too |
| 22:27.06 | soomsoom | i want wizards to do that for me |
| 22:27.14 | soomsoom | i just will make the table |
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| 22:27.17 | soomsoom | *tables |
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| 22:30.10 | dizzylizzy | god, fdupes is like magic |
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| 22:50.20 | pierreN | hi |
| 22:50.33 | pierreN | does anybody here use mountpy please ? |
| 22:51.33 | ManoftheSea_ | Hey, uh... Who broke searching empathy contacts (Folks?) in recent Wheezy update? |
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| 22:52.39 | pierreN | i would like to tell mountpy to try to mount devices with the ntfs-3g filesystem type (to use it with my external hdd). does anybody knows here if it is possible? or maybe does anybody knows a better script to automatically mount/umount all connected usb devices? |
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| 23:00.30 | pierreN | anyone has a clue please? |
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| 23:04.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually mountpy sounds nicer than usbmount, which just mounts everything on /media/usb{0,1,2,3,4} |
| 23:05.19 | krababbel | :w |
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| 23:05.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | never had ntfs drives to mount via usb, though |
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| 23:19.08 | abracadabra | how can i change the location of the .Xauthority file? |
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| 23:21.59 | abracadabra | maybe i should rephrase |
| 23:22.03 | abracadabra | how do i modify the XAUTHORITY variable to point to a different file so that X uses that instead of $(HOME)/.Xauthority |
| 23:22.18 | krababbel | I want to create a chroot with multistrap for a different architecture than my host is. Now I get a chroot error: /bin/bash: no such file... |
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| 23:22.46 | krababbel | Do I need quemu now? |
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| 23:33.38 | nkuttler | abracadabra: in base export foo=bar |
| 23:33.58 | nkuttler | abracadabra: bash even |
| 23:34.18 | abracadabra | yes.. but will that stick between boots? |
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| 23:37.04 | nkuttler | abracadabra: if you do it in your bashrc, yes |
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| 23:37.47 | abracadabra | hmm |
| 23:37.50 | abracadabra | let me try |
| 23:38.55 | HS^ | if debian has a new release, will apt-get upgrade automaticly update to the new release? |
| 23:39.23 | disarone | depends on your sources.list |
| 23:39.35 | disarone | if you use stable instead of codename |
| 23:39.45 | abracadabra | uhm nkuttler |
| 23:39.54 | abracadabra | .bashrc runs before services start? |
| 23:39.59 | HS^ | what i mean is this easy to upgrade when it needs to be done? |
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| 23:40.03 | HS^ | or is it a headache |
| 23:40.45 | disarone | depends on "what changed" and what apps ure running |
| 23:41.01 | disarone | its easy on a server |
| 23:41.09 | disarone | could be harder on desktops |
| 23:41.31 | HS^ | yes server |
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| 23:41.46 | HS^ | but i think wheezy is coming not to long from now? |
| 23:41.54 | HS^ | when i look at history its every 2 year |
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| 23:41.59 | disarone | if use running samba, kerberos, ldap and so on…than study the releasenotes |
| 23:42.25 | disarone | first…than try in testenviroment |
| 23:42.28 | HS^ | no i run some packages from dotdeb though |
| 23:42.32 | disarone | its not that hard |
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| 23:43.07 | disarone | what is dotdeb :D |
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| 23:43.27 | HS^ | http://www.dotdeb.org/ apache nginx etc. |
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| 23:44.50 | disarone | hmm is there no packages for apache nginx ect in backports? |
| 23:44.58 | disarone | would make things easier |
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| 23:47.22 | HS^ | dont think so why else would dotdeb exist |
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| 23:52.12 | disarone | dunno….a lot of lazy people out there…maybe :DD |
| 23:53.00 | gin | Hi there..! Someone knows about what happend with Undernet Servers ?? |
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| 23:54.42 | Sazzo | Hi. Is there a debian testing FAQ I can read before I ask questions about the distro? Thanks. |
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| 23:56.29 | disarone | wiki debian |
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| 23:56.44 | disarone | or do you mean testing |
| 23:56.54 | disarone | like wheezy….nowdays |
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| 23:57.29 | Sazzo | So wheezy AKA testing? |
| 23:58.19 | gin | I like wiki debian development based with MoinMoin :) |
| 23:58.33 | gin | looks like so pretty and clear about =) |
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| 23:58.44 | disarone | yip….what do you mean with faq? maybe you can read debian installer erata |
| 23:59.11 | dfx | hey guys |
| 23:59.42 | dfx | can anynoe help me please http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=99712 |
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| 23:59.53 | dfx | ican't see to have help |
| 23:59.57 | Sazzo | disarone, I just want to read up on a q/a list(if it exists) so I know what I need to do before install. I don't like to bother ppl in irc with questions if the answers are elsewhere. |
