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| 00:10.06 | tharkun | How can I make a zip file on debian? |
| 00:10.20 | gnarface | tharkun: apt-get install zip |
| 00:10.29 | gnarface | tharkun: (then man zip) |
| 00:10.39 | tharkun | gnarface: allready installed, the man page is as criptic as samba's |
| 00:11.15 | gnarface | tharkun: if i recall its similar to tar where its [bin] [options] [target file] [source files...] |
| 00:11.35 | gnarface | tharkun: note that unzip is in its own package |
| 00:11.44 | tharkun | gnarface: ok, let me tryit that way. |
| 00:12.16 | gnarface | tharkun: the primary thing you'll want from the manpage is the option flags to do recursive directory zips i would assume |
| 00:12.38 | gnarface | tharkun: i believe by default, without options, its only capable of zipping single files |
| 00:13.03 | tharkun | gnarface: I only need to zip one file because the extensions related to the W$ browser beeing used over there try to open the file instead of downloading them. |
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| 00:15.37 | themill | tharkun: "Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=$filename" in the headers might help you |
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| 00:23.19 | KrispyKreme | hey |
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| 00:23.47 | Rix | xen or kvm with debian |
| 00:24.31 | acu | OK, so I draw a conclusion - for a server I need gui - kde is better - it does not need fancy gpu drivers - so how can I make the initab (or what exactly) I need to change so the server boots on cli - but if I want - remotely to startx too ? |
| 00:24.40 | acu | Rix: what is the question ? |
| 00:24.41 | daemonkeeper | If you meant to ask a question: This wasn't. |
| 00:24.59 | gnarface | Rix: i think kvm is easier |
| 00:25.22 | abrotman | acu: kde? really? |
| 00:26.11 | daemonkeeper | abrotman: Could be worse, like Gnome! |
| 00:26.31 | Rix | the question is which is better supported and easier to use (i read about kvm is easier but i read xen is better supported or what) |
| 00:26.32 | abrotman | daemonkeeper: the point was more about any DE instead of a simple WM |
| 00:26.37 | acu | abrotman: gnome classic sucks (sorry to use unacademic word ) I cannot create shortcuts on desktop, the menu is incomplete and I need to browse from it, etc - until now I used gnome - but I think kde is better |
| 00:27.01 | daemonkeeper | abrotman: No the point was "for a server I need gui". At that point I stopped taking the question serious :> |
| 00:27.02 | acu | Rix: I use kvm - requires three neurons only - you nit virt-manager |
| 00:27.23 | gnarface | Rix: well kvm is supported in the stock debian kernel in wheezy xen is not that is probably the deal maker there |
| 00:27.26 | abrotman | daemonkeeper: that too :) |
| 00:27.35 | daemonkeeper | gnarface: wrong. |
| 00:27.39 | abrotman | acu: you can, you need to enable Nautilus .. it's not hard |
| 00:27.54 | acu | you can manipulate everything through GUI (Virtual Machine Manager) or virsh (cli) |
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| 00:28.02 | daemonkeeper | gnarface: Debian has, just like the vanilla kernel, out of the box Xen support since kernel 3.x |
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| 00:28.07 | gnarface | daemonkeeper: oh? you *don't* have to switch kernels for xen? |
| 00:28.15 | gnarface | hmm.... |
| 00:28.28 | Rix | thanks gnarface and acu so i just install standart wheezy and i can get kvm out of the box (using aptitude) nice thanks |
| 00:28.35 | acu | kvm is built in kernel - type1 hypervisor - supposedly is faster - |
| 00:29.03 | Rix | nice :) choice made then |
| 00:29.10 | daemonkeeper | gnarface: You boot the Xen hypervisor, but the kernel is exactly the same as you run for KVM. |
| 00:29.19 | gnarface | daemonkeeper: oh. myb ad |
| 00:29.23 | gnarface | *my bad |
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| 00:29.32 | acu | aptitude install qemu-kvm virt-manager (something like this) then you need to add your user : adduser acu libvirt and logout - so when you login back you can enter virtual machine manager |
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| 00:29.53 | daemonkeeper | Rix: Obviously four different people give you four opinions. One will say KVM, one Xen,one Virtualbox, one will say lxc, and one OpenVZ. |
| 00:29.56 | gnarface | daemonkeeper: you're not contesting that xen is more steps though right? |
| 00:30.19 | daemonkeeper | gnarface: If you consider "apt-get install xen-linux-system-amd64" hard, you may be right. |
| 00:30.39 | gnarface | that's all it takes to setup a dom0 or whatever? |
| 00:30.43 | daemonkeeper | Yes |
| 00:30.48 | gnarface | interesting |
| 00:31.00 | daemonkeeper | takes Xen btw. Any volunteer for the remaining alternatives? |
| 00:31.17 | gnarface | i still prefer linux-vservers |
| 00:31.21 | gnarface | i'm sad they're deprecated |
| 00:31.23 | daemonkeeper | linux-vserver is dead. |
| 00:31.30 | daemonkeeper | lxc is the better, newer alternative. |
| 00:31.51 | daemonkeeper | But linux-vserver and a hypevisor are unrelated tasks. |
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| 00:32.19 | acu | Rix: kvm is supported - by RedHat and IBM - I guess xen was more popular before - virtualbox will allow you to run it on windows etc - but kvm is in my opinion the way to go (but I use linux exclusively on workstations and servers) |
| 00:32.39 | daemonkeeper | acu: And Xen is supported by Novell and Citrix. So what? |
| 00:32.43 | gnarface | daemonkeeper: i find them to be competing solutions |
| 00:32.45 | Rix | thanks i know kvm is redhat that's why i asked but if it is buildin then great |
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| 00:33.25 | acu | Novel and Citrix are 3% of the size of the corporations I mentioned :) but we should use whatever we find best for our purpose |
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| 00:33.48 | daemonkeeper | gnarface: No, they're not. Xen, KVM and Virtualbox are hypervisors emulating some computer architecture with more or less help of the CPU. lxc/linux-vserver/OpenVZ are container providing domain isolation. |
| 00:34.13 | daemonkeeper | The latter is more lightweight, but suited for a tight task. |
| 00:34.28 | Rix | so xen is supported natively in wheezy? |
| 00:34.32 | gnarface | daemonkeeper: i find that in practice they are competing solutions to the same problem, end of story |
| 00:34.43 | daemonkeeper | Rix: Xen is supported in Debian since Etch I think. |
| 00:34.48 | gnarface | daemonkeeper: i'm well aware of all their fundamental differences |
| 00:35.32 | daemonkeeper | gnarface: Well, but they're not close. Containers provide less security, less isolation, less features at the gain of a smaller overhead. |
| 00:35.56 | gnarface | duh |
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| 00:36.12 | gnarface | ! |
| 00:36.20 | daemonkeeper | gnarface: For example you can't run foreign operating systems in containers. |
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| 00:36.28 | gnarface | shared kernel |
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| 00:36.33 | gnarface | shared storage |
| 00:36.35 | gnarface | shared memory |
| 00:36.37 | Supa_jim | hey |
| 00:36.37 | gnarface | shared cpu |
| 00:36.39 | acu | anyhow I found something weird - I installed Debian Wheezy in a virtual machine and I made three partitions - with LVM and XFS on top of them - and actually the GRUB boots and see them - until now I thought GRUB needs bare metal with ext3 or xfs - but not on top of LVM to boot |
| 00:36.40 | gnarface | neat feature |
| 00:36.47 | Rix | daemonkeeper i meant with normal installation out of the box |
| 00:36.55 | daemonkeeper | gnarface: Except when you WANT performance isolation. |
| 00:37.04 | daemonkeeper | Rix: So do I. |
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| 00:38.02 | Supa_jim | whats going on |
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| 00:38.24 | tharkun | themill: Thanks I'll write that down for future reference |
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| 00:38.32 | daemonkeeper | Rix: Debian has been supporting Xen for years. The only new thing is, upstream decided to merge Xen/dom0 support as well starting with 3.0 |
| 00:38.50 | bomadog | sup |
| 00:38.57 | Supa_jim | nm just chillin |
| 00:38.59 | Supa_jim | wby |
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| 00:39.11 | bomadog | lookin 4 a tv |
| 00:39.17 | bomadog | you know ne with 1 |
| 00:39.24 | themill | bomadog, Supa_jim: do you have a debian user support question we can help you with? |
| 00:39.52 | bomadog | nah |
| 00:39.57 | Supa_jim | nope |
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| 00:42.49 | blast_hardcheese | What causes people to join a Debian support channel and ask for a TV? |
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| 00:43.01 | abrotman | what causes people to comment on that |
| 00:43.11 | daemonkeeper | what causes people to comment on comments? |
| 00:43.28 | blast_hardcheese | sorry, I'll take it to the Debian Support support channel |
| 00:43.35 | Supa_jim | easssy |
| 00:43.47 | Towzzer | i wanted to sell my tv |
| 00:43.49 | Towzzer | did that guy leave? |
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| 00:44.17 | Supa_jim | how bigs that tv |
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| 00:46.11 | gnarface | i think that is an appropriate use for debian-offtopic |
| 00:46.23 | daemonkeeper | No it's not. |
| 00:47.10 | gnarface | daemonkeeper: i think you're an appropriate use for debian-offtopic too |
| 00:47.14 | abrotman | move on ... |
| 00:47.59 | Seekanet | how would i filter ICMP unreachable and redirects? |
| 00:48.43 | daemonkeeper | Why would one want to? |
| 00:48.44 | gnarface | Seekanet: should be easy with iptables |
| 00:49.10 | gnarface | Seekanet: easy(ish) |
| 00:49.19 | daemonkeeper | Sure you can block ICMP with iptables. But there is barely a reason to. |
| 00:49.30 | Seekanet | daemonkeeper if im asking i apparently dont know that answer to your question :P |
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| 00:49.41 | gnarface | some people like to block everything but ping... |
| 00:50.03 | Seekanet | oh @gnarface and daemonkeeper |
| 00:50.05 | abrotman | Seekanet: #netfilter might be more appropriate |
| 00:50.33 | gnarface | definitely #netfilter but they'll be even more hostile there |
| 00:50.47 | abrotman | than who? you? |
| 00:50.55 | gnarface | hah yes |
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| 00:54.55 | fleeky | hi im trying to setup a 3tb drive |
| 00:55.12 | blast_hardcheese | neat |
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| 00:55.34 | fleeky | parted didnt start on a physical boundary sector |
| 00:55.45 | fleeky | and fdisk doesnt relaly support 3tb ? |
| 00:55.58 | fleeky | anyone know how to get it to start on the right sector ? |
| 00:56.11 | fleeky | or a better way to setup the drive |
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| 00:58.14 | Towzzer | parted |
| 00:58.17 | Towzzer | start at 1 |
| 00:58.20 | Towzzer | end at -1 |
| 00:58.28 | fleeky | hmm |
| 00:58.32 | fleeky | worth a shot |
| 00:58.45 | fleeky | can you explain a little about that ? |
| 00:58.59 | fleeky | ive never understood this layer of hardrives and partitioning and such |
| 00:59.58 | Towzzer | the 1 is the offset in MB (i think) from the start of the disk on where to start the partition |
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| 01:01.56 | Towzzer | parted is much better than fdisk |
| 01:02.04 | Towzzer | it supports gpt , easier to use, and has scripting ability |
| 01:02.42 | cheasee | http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ - "at the moment, the size is only checked for the i386 architecture" - i just noticed, i386 image is 191mb, amd64 is 168mb, maybe this should be corrected? |
| 01:02.48 | fleeky | doesnt do formatting well though ? |
| 01:03.20 | abrotman | cheasee: do you believe it's wrong? |
| 01:03.23 | Towzzer | format is mkfs.<fs> |
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| 01:03.43 | cheasee | abrotman: The image size is larger than the 180 MB/40 MB mentioned below! Yes — at the moment, the size is only checked for the i386 architecture |
| 01:03.45 | zinx | parted is somewhat limited and the numbers it uses are annoyingly fuzzy, gparted supports more filesystems but with the same fuzz in offsets |
| 01:03.48 | blast_hardcheese | Towzzer: Why not mkfs -t <fs> ? |
| 01:04.03 | Towzzer | i like the one I said :D |
| 01:04.09 | blast_hardcheese | Ok |
| 01:04.11 | abrotman | cheasee: feel free to file a bug against the website |
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| 01:04.36 | cheasee | abrotman: where/how should i do that? :) |
| 01:04.47 | cheasee | typical debian bug list? |
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| 01:05.38 | fleeky | Towzzer: didnt work .. |
| 01:05.43 | abrotman | there are metapackages to report against for things like the website |
| 01:05.50 | Towzzer | how so mister fleeky |
| 01:05.53 | fleeky | tried doing mkpart primary 1 -1 |
| 01:06.00 | fleeky | fdisk still reports it as wrong |
| 01:06.11 | Towzzer | of course, fdisk is reading the mbr |
| 01:06.14 | cheasee | ah, never filed a bug.. ok ill look into it, thanks |
| 01:06.23 | Towzzer | fleeky, mklabel gpt |
| 01:06.26 | Towzzer | mkpart primary 1 -1 |
| 01:06.27 | fleeky | did that |
| 01:06.37 | fleeky | i already made the gpt label |
| 01:06.41 | Towzzer | fdisk doesn't support gpt so it's not going to show you the size properly |
| 01:06.43 | fleeky | didnt know you could make the partition before the label |
| 01:06.51 | fleeky | hrm |
| 01:06.52 | Towzzer | it reads a legacy mbr that gpt leaves |
| 01:06.58 | fleeky | thats confusing |
| 01:07.01 | Towzzer | why |
| 01:07.17 | fleeky | well is there a way to test the performance of the drive |
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| 01:07.29 | Towzzer | how comprehensive? |
| 01:07.34 | fleeky | mostly im just trying to avoid performance loss from not starting on a physical sector boundary |
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| 01:08.01 | fleeky | and be able to compare it to my other drives to make sure nothing is funky |
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| 01:08.41 | Towzzer | parted warns if it's not aligned when you make the partiion |
| 01:08.47 | fleeky | hmm |
| 01:08.59 | fleeky | well indeed i didnt see any warnings |
| 01:09.12 | fleeky | ive just used fdisk for so long i dont trust :) |
| 01:09.22 | fleeky | that its really reporting wrong |
| 01:09.23 | fenton_travers | i can't find debian testing iso's at: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-amd64/current/images/. Where are they? |
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| 01:09.32 | r3m | ,v irssi |
| 01:09.33 | judd | Package: irssi on i386 -- lenny: 0.8.12-7; lenny-backports: 0.8.15-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 0.8.15-2; squeeze-backports: 0.8.15-4~bpo60+1; sid: 0.8.15-5; wheezy: 0.8.15-5 |
| 01:09.52 | Towzzer | I know we all used fdisk since msdos |
| 01:09.56 | Towzzer | but parted is really good :D |
| 01:10.02 | abrotman | fenton_travers: debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 01:11.25 | fleeky | well |
| 01:11.26 | fenton_travers | abrotman: thx! |
| 01:11.29 | fleeky | parted -l doesnt show any problems |
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| 01:13.45 | fleeky | so Towzzer are there any cli diagnostic tools for hd's ? |
| 01:15.20 | Towzzer | i don't know |
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| 01:15.37 | fleeky | k well thanks for the help on parted |
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| 01:18.24 | butterball | Hi I installed something from deb-multimedia and I don;t remember what it was. it was a single file that I used wget I think.. I just reinstalled my system and trying to have dvd movies play. |
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| 01:19.29 | mumpitzel | butterball: libdvdcss ? |
| 01:19.37 | musis | oi |
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| 01:21.01 | butterball | mumpitzel: I do think that is it! |
| 01:24.42 | fleeky | last thing .. for mkpart does the first partition have to be primary or can it be logical |
| 01:25.06 | fleeky | thats another thing that always confused me .. if setting a partition to primary would screw up any kindof booting of the system |
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| 01:36.07 | n2diy | My SD card reader has stopped working, is there a way to restart the USB bus, or whatever it is? |
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| 01:53.15 | DanDare | I hate how the very long uuid line ruin 'df -H' output, breaking columns |
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| 01:53.46 | DanDare | How to set columns > 80 on console ? |
| 01:54.01 | DanDare | max allowed by "stty cols" is 80 |
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| 02:03.55 | hrenovo | hi. new openvpn installation here on debian 6.0.7. So openvpn service starts and I can confirm that it is listening on netstat -anp | grep :1194 |
| 02:04.00 | hrenovo | but |
| 02:04.33 | hrenovo | telnet localhost 1194 returns telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
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| 02:10.06 | Spektral | so like i got my kimsufi server, running deb 6, and it comes with a full ipv6 /64, now it already has it in the interface, but its not pinging, so obv something is left to be setup, does anyone know what my next step is? |
| 02:10.46 | Spektral | ive setit up on my buddys vps running centos, but it was way diff and well it seems like all that we had to do is what is already done on my deb server ,but obv there's more to it |
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| 02:11.28 | Spektral | a tut link on "setting up ur ipv6 on deb6" would be fine with me, just havent found anything that really tells u step by step everything that neesd to be done |
| 02:11.30 | Spektral | heh |
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| 02:13.49 | abrotman | why do you think ping is a valid test? |
| 02:15.58 | DanDare | Im playing with wheezy. Just tried "apt-get install phpmyadmin", it goes but doesn't trigger mysql-server as a dependence. Is this some sort of bug ? |
| 02:16.00 | marc_smith | iperf seems to be good tool for connectivity measurements |
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| 02:19.02 | themill | DanDare: you can use phpmyadmin to administer mysql servers on other machines |
| 02:19.08 | abrotman | DanDare: you could connect to a remote mysql |
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| 02:19.38 | DanDare | themill, abrotman. Got it. Yeah it makes sense, phpmyadmin does not need mysql-server installed to work. thans |
| 02:19.41 | DanDare | *thanks |
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| 02:22.00 | grothendieck | it's probably a better idea to not have phpmyadmin installed on the same box as your mysql databases ;) |
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| 02:22.41 | grothendieck | phpmyadmin is a popular target for script kiddies |
| 02:23.09 | DanDare | grothendieck, I see. |
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| 02:25.05 | grothendieck | if you are running apache and look through error logs then you will probably see a bunch of (404'd) requests going to common URLs for phpmyadmin |
| 02:25.46 | grothendieck | scanning for login pages to brute force |
| 02:25.58 | grothendieck | fun fun fun |
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| 02:27.23 | abrotman | though, if the credentials are stored, separation may not matter |
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| 02:29.45 | DanDare | well. I like phpmyadmin and sounds like a nice idea not using it at same place as mysql databases. By the other hand my mysql setup id bind to unix socket only, not tcp/ip |
| 02:30.00 | DanDare | *is bind |
| 02:30.29 | grothendieck | pretty sure you can fix that by adding some lines in /etc/my.cnf and restarting mysql daemon |
| 02:30.45 | grothendieck | assuming you have root on the server |
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| 02:31.08 | DanDare | yeah sure. What I mean is: is more secure having mysql not bind to internet but just localhost (thiking about it now) |
| 02:32.29 | grothendieck | use iptables to block any attempts at connecting to mysql port unless the IP is whitelisted |
| 02:32.44 | grothendieck | i.e., is the IP of the machine you want to run phpmyadmin from |
| 02:33.05 | grothendieck | and have it listen on a high port number |
| 02:33.16 | DanDare | sure a option. unfortunately i dont have a static IP from home/office. But really I can set some ranges for it, its a good idea |
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| 02:33.29 | DanDare | yeah. I always change default ports :p |
| 02:33.41 | abrotman | not useful |
| 02:33.43 | DanDare | dont care about being obscure :p |
| 02:33.57 | grothendieck | abrotman: high ports are not useful? |
| 02:34.12 | abrotman | DanDare: but that's all you're doing |
| 02:34.28 | DanDare | yeah ... |
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| 02:34.41 | abrotman | you'll stop bird-brianed attempts .. not someone who actually has half a brain |
| 02:34.49 | DanDare | sure. |
| 02:34.54 | grothendieck | high port just prevents a good portion of scripts from finding services to attack |
| 02:35.00 | DanDare | still, another thin layer |
| 02:35.05 | grothendieck | abrotman: probably 90% of attempts are bird-brained |
| 02:35.08 | grothendieck | :P |
| 02:36.37 | grothendieck | but I agree it doesn't add to security |
| 02:37.01 | DanDare | it adds... but just a little bit maybe :) |
| 02:37.03 | grothendieck | it just makes the scripted port scans move on to th enext box |
| 02:37.14 | DanDare | like, not something to totally rely on |
| 02:37.42 | tadp0le | Hello, |
| 02:38.09 | grothendieck | closing ports you don't use, keeping packages up to date and applying kernel patches as soon as they are available = "least effort for most benefit" |
| 02:38.25 | DanDare | true |
| 02:38.45 | grothendieck | no remote SSH login as root, using SSH keys instead of passwords, no anonymous FTP access, ... |
| 02:38.57 | grothendieck | or at least anonymous FTP uploads |
| 02:39.00 | tadp0le | Why would someone use debian as a desktop os over ubuntu? |
| 02:39.16 | tadp0le | I am not trolling, seriously curious. |
| 02:39.23 | grothendieck | debian is more stable |
| 02:39.35 | tadp0le | is that the only benefit? |
| 02:39.35 | DanDare | i usually blocks everything but the basic to have system working and start creating exceptions for what I need |
| 02:39.36 | abrotman | tadp0le: try the both, decide for yourself |
| 02:39.38 | grothendieck | I don't watn to reinstall my OS every 6 months when ubuntu upgrade breaks everything |
| 02:39.43 | tadp0le | abrotman I am. |
| 02:39.54 | abrotman | tadp0le: then form your own opinion, don't ask for ours |
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| 02:40.02 | themill | dpkg: tell tadp0le about why debian |
| 02:40.02 | tadp0le | Go freag your self. |
| 02:40.07 | stew | ubuntu has release which are more stable than ubuntu |
| 02:40.13 | grothendieck | lol |
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| 02:40.25 | tadp0le | and thank you for legit responses. |
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| 02:40.40 | stew | grothendieck: realize that debian allows debian packages to be uploaded via anonymous ftp |
| 02:40.42 | grothendieck | stew: which ubuntu did you mean to say debian |
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| 02:41.12 | stew | grothendieck: the lts releases are supported and stable for longer than the debian stable releases, so if your goal is to not have to upgrade as often that might be a better choice |
| 02:41.13 | grothendieck | stew: I will qualify statement: don't allow anonymous ftp upload unless you have a reason to do so |
| 02:41.16 | DanDare | i dont even use FTP, argh |
| 02:41.20 | stew | ftp needs to go away |
| 02:41.46 | jpinx | tadp0le: I'm a lo-tech user and I find debian easier and clearer |
| 02:41.54 | enuguri | hi I am seeing kenel hung tasks causing kernel panic on my debian lenny can anyone please suggest me how to fix this |
| 02:42.13 | enuguri | its causing the system to crash |
| 02:42.22 | jpinx | enuguri: upgrade to squeeze ? |
| 02:42.27 | tadp0le | I was trying to stable release this morning but the wiki is wrong for what I needed to get done. So now I have wheezy and am trying to continue my usage testing. Was just looking for others input. :) |
| 02:42.29 | DanDare | oom goes mad |
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| 02:43.36 | jpinx | enuguri: lenny is no longer officially supported |
| 02:43.37 | tadp0le | jpinx I was thinking the opposite today. I can just mark for install and apply in ubuntu and software installs right and makes menu entries nothings working right in debian. I have not yet formed a real opinion yet though. |
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| 02:44.37 | tadp0le | Most of my issues have been personal preference in regards to software and my hardware issues. |
| 02:44.46 | jpinx | tadp0le: dunno what you're doing .. I do aptitude install <foo> and it "just works" |
| 02:44.55 | grothendieck | tadp0le: synaptic package manager? |
| 02:44.59 | tadp0le | Yes. |
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| 02:45.30 | tadp0le | and apt-get |
| 02:46.04 | enuguri | there are few applications that can be ported to squeeze |
| 02:46.18 | enuguri | sorry cannot be ported to squeeze right now |
| 02:46.24 | tadp0le | ? |
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| 02:46.58 | stew | enuguri: if your kernel is locking up, you should suspect hardware. you might try running memtest |
| 02:47.14 | abrotman | baseball!!! |
| 02:47.26 | enuguri | the system has been running fine for more than two years I think |
| 02:47.54 | abrotman | wonders why enuguri is using /me for every single line |
| 02:48.19 | enuguri | abrotman: I am new to using this |
| 02:48.26 | DanDare | laughs |
| 02:48.38 | abrotman | almost QOTD worthy |
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| 02:48.59 | enuguri | stew: do you think old hardware could be the cause for this |
| 02:49.15 | stew | enuguri: no. faulty hardware |
| 02:49.19 | abrotman | any hardware could be the cause |
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| 02:49.29 | stew | enuguri: or perhap overheating hardware |
| 02:49.36 | enuguri | what should I particularly look at |
| 02:49.43 | jpinx | hardware on coke |
| 02:50.09 | enuguri | I have few capture cards installed on the unit do you think even they too can be the cause of the problem |
| 02:50.11 | tadp0le | wish it would share |
| 02:50.31 | DanDare | enuguri, memtest (as mentioned already), PCI slots, heatsink fans etc. make sure your system is OK |
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| 02:50.57 | DanDare | remember having lots of trouble with AGP contacts |
| 02:51.14 | jpinx | enuguri: clean the fans |
| 02:51.57 | enuguri | jpinx: thanks for the tip I will ask the person there to do it |
| 02:51.59 | jpinx | had dodgy ram contacts |
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| 02:52.09 | DanDare | enuguri, one thing you can do is test the computer without anything attached. start adding the cards and test |
| 02:52.13 | enuguri | this is the fourth time in a couple of days we are seeing this |
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| 02:52.27 | jpinx | enuguri: remote box ? |
| 02:52.34 | enuguri | yes |
| 02:52.38 | DanDare | faulty PSU. Software bugs, lots of bad stuff can happen :p |
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| 02:52.56 | enuguri | we haven't changed anything on the software side |
| 02:52.59 | jpinx | enuguri: do all the tests before you start physically attacking it ;) |
| 02:53.36 | jpinx | enuguri: memtest being the first and most obvious |
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| 02:54.27 | enuguri | jpinx: sure |
| 02:54.37 | freeroute | hi, I just installed debian netinstall but somehow my manpage viewer is not being less, how can I set less as a manpage viewer? I understood that a manpage viewer is also called a pager? I |
| 02:54.40 | enuguri | thanks everyone |
| 02:54.54 | stew | freeroute: is less installed? |
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| 02:55.36 | freeroute | stew: I can see zless when I do man -k |
| 02:55.50 | freeroute | *man -k less |
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| 02:56.38 | DanDare | i guess less is just installed with a minimal (yet default), installation |
| 02:56.47 | DanDare | *standard |
| 02:56.52 | stew | when you run "less -f /dev/null" do you get an error or do you get less? |
| 02:57.00 | stew | or what does "which less" return? |
| 02:57.25 | stew | freeroute: run "update-alternatives --config pager" |
| 02:57.41 | stew | though I'd expect that alternative to be in auto mode and already picking less |
| 02:57.59 | Advef | I broke gcc, probably by foolishly purging packages. Now ./configure say 'gcc not working' (I'm not a coder, I use gcc to compile softwares unavailable in stable) |
| 02:58.11 | abrotman | Advef: install build-essential |
| 02:58.21 | Advef | i did |
| 02:58.28 | Advef | but I'll retry |
| 02:58.57 | abrotman | also wonders what said compiled software has overwritten |
| 02:59.19 | stew | I also wonder about ssb |
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| 02:59.28 | stew | abrotman: i have no idea. when is pitchers and catchers? |
| 02:59.45 | freeroute | stew: I can only see /bin/more twice and /usr/bin/pg once |
| 02:59.59 | freeroute | one /bin/more is in auto mode |
| 03:00.09 | Advef | abrotman: apt-get say build essential is already installed |
| 03:00.11 | abrotman | stew: season starts in two weeks |
| 03:00.13 | stew | freeroute: apt-get install less |
| 03:00.20 | abrotman | regular season |
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| 03:00.34 | stew | shows how much I pay attention |
| 03:00.41 | abrotman | hehe |
| 03:00.43 | abrotman | waves! |
| 03:01.28 | stew | I've been so busy that I'm barely keeping track of how badly the flyers are doing |
| 03:01.47 | abrotman | hehe .. awful |
| 03:01.53 | freeroute | stew: thanks :) |
| 03:02.03 | Advef | abrot: I tried undoing what I saw in /var/log/apt/history.log but it did not work |
| 03:02.12 | DanDare | it's sweet that Debian includes kicad |
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| 04:17.16 | TheCoffeMaker | Hi all! ... can I borrow a little of your help? |
| 04:18.36 | Seekanet | when i edit the resolv.conf file do i need to restart the system or not needed? |
| 04:19.15 | TheCoffeMaker | need a little help ... I'm trying to boot an USB from grub2's console ... but I get a boot error when chainloading from it |
| 04:19.39 | blackmagic | Seekanet, no. |
| 04:19.55 | Seekanet | ok cool |
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| 04:20.20 | blackmagic | only time you reboot, is when you upgrade kernel or hardware, other then that i see no need for a reboot |
| 04:20.23 | boudiccas | I'm starting truecrypt from a bash shell script, loading it into memory and then leaving it there, but how can i exit the script please? I've tried 'exit 0' but it didnt work |
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| 04:20.34 | blackmagic | try exit 3? |
| 04:21.09 | blackmagic | iirc, exit 0 means no errors..not sure though. |
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| 04:32.04 | rwp | TheCoffeMaker, If the error is one line then show it to us. If it is more than one line the best thing would be to pastebin the error and then post the URL. |
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| 05:24.20 | JasonWoof | ok, I remapped my capslock key to be super_L but I didn"t realize that capslock was on when i remapped it |
| 05:24.30 | JasonWoof | (i"m typing this with shift down) |
| 05:24.54 | JasonWoof | is there a command to turn off capslock when i don"t have a capslock key? |
| 05:25.36 | JasonWoof | or do i really have to bind a key, press it once and then re-bind it? |
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| 05:40.38 | JasonWoof | ok, fixed it by unplugging my keyboard, then plugging it back in. |
| 05:40.43 | JasonWoof | somehow my bindings don't stick |
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| 05:41.37 | rommel092079 | good day guys where can I download the debian wheezy |
| 05:41.49 | rommel092079 | i dont see it from here http://www.debian.org/distrib/ |
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| 05:43.02 | ParkerR | rommel092079, http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 05:44.01 | rommel092079 | ParkerR: thanks. I can see it has 3 iso, what is iso 1, 2 and 3? |
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| 05:44.43 | ParkerR | rommel092079, All you need is 1, or you could do the netinstall |
| 05:45.06 | rommel092079 | I cant do netinstall because my internet connection is real slow. |
| 05:45.19 | rommel092079 | so all I need is 1 and the rest is updates and other packages? |
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| 05:45.44 | ParkerR | rommel092079, Yes if you have an internet connection that will be used after installation all you need is one |
| 05:45.56 | ParkerR | * 1 |
| 05:45.59 | rommel092079 | thanks man |
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| 05:53.26 | civillian | Could anyone tell me whats wrong with this line from /etc/freeradius/users? |
| 05:53.28 | civillian | DEFAULT LDAP-Group == "cn=VPN_Allowed", Pool-Name := "main_pool" Juniper-Primary-Dns = 192.168.25.13, Juniper-Secondary-Dns = 192.168.25.12 |
| 05:53.47 | civillian | I just want those DNS settings to propagate to the group |
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| 05:54.33 | acu | !paste |
| 05:54.34 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 05:54.50 | civillian | acu: what |
| 05:56.23 | acu | nothing - it was for me |
| 05:56.31 | civillian | ahh k |
| 05:56.58 | acu | but if you have long messages - errors - use it :) |
| 05:57.12 | civillian | I only paste 1 liners |
| 05:57.28 | acu | no worry - again, it was for me :) |
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| 06:25.45 | p3rror | hello |
| 06:26.04 | p3rror | how to reinstall a package with state iF or iU |
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| 06:34.03 | CosmicB | p3rror apt-get remove [package] && apt-get install [package] (?) |
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| 06:34.46 | p3rror | CosmicB, oK I try this |
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| 06:40.20 | voxadam | Has anyone here setup a netboot/PXE server? I'm going to build a Debian based netboot server VM. I already have a DHCP server on my network (on my wireless router). Do I need setup a DHCP server in my VM or can I just use the one on my DD-WRT router? |
| 06:40.44 | voxadam | Is it even possible to run two DHCP servers on a network? |
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| 06:41.13 | nevyn | yes. |
| 06:41.30 | nevyn | but... |
| 06:42.00 | p3rror | CosmicB, it is worked |
| 06:42.04 | p3rror | CosmicB, thanks |
| 06:42.21 | CosmicB | ok, nice. You're welcome |
| 06:42.35 | b0lt | any pre-made tool to add or remove unique lines (ip addresses) from a file? like, addline <file> 192.168.1.9, removeline <file> 123.123.123.123? or should i just make a short script to do so? don't want to re-invent the wheel :) |
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| 06:43.59 | b0lt | voxadam: as long as your existing dhcp server has the option of pointing clients at a netboot server, you don't need another one |
| 06:44.19 | e1z0 | :O |
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| 06:44.43 | b0lt | voxadam: you can perfectly well run a hundred dhcp servers by the way, but unless you know what you're doing you will make a hell of a mess |
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| 06:47.15 | voxadam | b0lt: Thanks. I think I figured out how to setup configure dnsmasq running on the DD-WRT router to announce the TFTP server. |
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| 07:11.39 | ChrisH | voxadam: still questions on PXE boot? |
| 07:11.49 | p3rror | hello |
| 07:11.55 | p3rror | how to change FQDN |
| 07:12.16 | ChrisH | p3rror: -v please :) |
| 07:12.17 | p3rror | can i use hostname, dnsfomainname ? |
| 07:12.44 | p3rror | ChrisH, when I run hostname -d I remark that it is a wrong domain |
| 07:12.51 | p3rror | ChrisH, how to change it |
| 07:13.24 | ChrisH | check /etc/resolv.conf first |
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| 07:14.28 | ChrisH | then read man dnsdomainname and seach for the FQDN chapter. depends on your setup. I handout domainname via DHCP |
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| 07:23.16 | enuguri | hi I was working on finding the cause of why one of server was having kernel panic once in every two days |
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| 07:23.49 | enuguri | i found two jobs were firing few scripts that does the same task |
| 07:24.33 | enuguri | will the system run out of memory if multiple processes try to accomplish the same task? |
| 07:24.41 | enuguri | can anyone please clarify me on this |
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| 07:26.34 | homes_ | enuguri: no. |
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| 07:27.06 | homes_ | enuguri: running out of memory due to userspace apps will trigger the OOM killer |
| 07:27.33 | jpinx | enuguri: no pm's without asking first ! :p |
| 07:27.49 | ChrisH | enuguri: No user process should bring the kernel to panic. But it can happen. 1. can you show us the messages around the crash to paste.debian.net 2. Consider HW problems, did you run memtest? defective memeory can show such behaviour as the defective memory will get in use nearly the same time each invocation. |
| 07:28.02 | enuguri | sorry about that jpinx |
| 07:28.21 | enuguri | I am new to this from now on I will ask for permission |
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| 07:28.33 | jpinx | enuguri: ask in here - anyone can answer |
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| 07:30.02 | enuguri | chrish: I will paste them |
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| 07:31.19 | ChrisH | enuguri: Are these server with similar setup and running similar tasks? I assume yes... I assume HW problems. |
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| 07:32.41 | caraconan | Hi all. I'm going to install for the first time a server with RAID 1 (2 disks) and I have couple of questions: what happens if I lost a disk? It's as simple as shutdown the server, replace the disk, and start it up again or should I do something else? |
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| 07:35.05 | ChrisH | caraconan: if hot-swap is possible, you can even replace them online... but in general thats it. After the system is up again you need to manually recover using fdisk, mdadm... all assuming you use a SW raid and not Fakeraid |
| 07:35.44 | homes_ | would suggest using mdadm raid1 over hw raid1 |
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| 07:36.30 | caraconan | <ChrisH> that's correct, I will use software RAID, but reading experiences they scared me a little bit about how well documented is the process of rebuild the RAID in case of disk failure |
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| 07:37.16 | homes_ | it'll be fine. |
| 07:37.28 | ChrisH | homes_: I would even syay: I recommend md ofer HW in 90% of all use cases. I have one set of production syste, where a HW Raid was the better solution. |
| 07:37.53 | enuguri | chirsh: I posted the log in paste.debian.net |
| 07:38.15 | ChrisH | enuguri: we need the complete link you got. |
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| 07:39.06 | enuguri | Chrish: from the logs I found that the application on the system was upgraded and problems started since then |
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| 07:39.53 | ChrisH | caraconan: to prevent trouble save the output from sfdisk. If it happens come here again and ask. |
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| 07:40.10 | enuguri | Chrish: do you want me to upload the entire log file |
| 07:40.18 | homes_ | ChrisH: it is curious how many people jump on the 'but hardware is better!' bandwagon, but then i imagine they've never had to deal with firmware updates, diverse hardware, not being able to move disks between arbitrary raid cards, needing proprietary tools to manage the raid array, having to learn the proprietary tools, needing to setup monitoring for different raid cards, ahh anyway, endo fmy rant :) |
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| 07:41.02 | homes_ | not to mention the dubious speed claims |
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| 07:41.48 | caraconan | <ChrisH> <homes_> Thanks for the info, and you are right, just need to dive to the pool and starting using it, GNU/Linux is our friend, not the enemy |
| 07:41.52 | ChrisH | homes_: If you have a real HW Raid card it is faster. We tested it. But you cannot split a mirror to be prepared for a fall-back. |
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| 07:42.45 | ChrisH | enuguri: I still wait for you complete URL |
| 07:43.06 | enuguri | Chrish: I uploaded the entire log file |
| 07:43.10 | homes_ | ChrisH: well, on your real HW raid card it was faster, i think its a leap of faith to extend that to all real HW raid cards :P |
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| 07:44.16 | Eino | * * * * * root echo /home/eino/brightness > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness |
| 07:44.26 | Eino | why doesn't this work in my crontab? :( |
| 07:44.34 | ChrisH | homes_: ACK. I am talking about th 1k EUR up class :) But I still prefer SW raid on the OS Side. HW Storage is different... but we get offtopic. |
| 07:45.02 | ChrisH | enuguri: I understood, but you will get an URL like paste.debian.net/dddFrs and thats what we need. |
| 07:45.22 | enuguri | Chrish: one second |
| 07:45.26 | ChrisH | Eino: your crontab as seen in crontab -l or one of the files in /etc/ ? |
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| 07:46.25 | enuguri | Chrish: here it is http://paste.debian.net/plain/241816 |
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| 07:47.17 | Eino | ChrisH: as seen in cat /etc/crontab |
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| 07:47.40 | homes_ | Eino: what a weird interface, may i ask what's in /home/eino/brightness? |
| 07:47.50 | homes_ | Eino: do you mean to have cat instead of eco? |
| 07:48.01 | Eino | [0,7] |
| 07:48.24 | Eino | I want to write the number contained in brightness to ../acpi_video0/brightness |
| 07:48.40 | homes_ | i suspect you want cat instead of echo |
| 07:48.45 | Eino | sudo crontab -l says "no crontab for root" though |
| 07:48.47 | ChrisH | enuguri: I cannot see any crash in there. Only the information that a python process stick a while. |
| 07:49.11 | ChrisH | Eino: you want to use: * * * * * root cat /home/eino/brightness > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness |
| 07:49.13 | Eino | homes_: im not sure, echo worked fine when I tried it with two files in home dir :D |
| 07:49.22 | Eino | okay |
| 07:49.23 | enuguri | Chrish: the system either gets hung or crashes |
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| 07:49.53 | Eino | ah now I understood what the problem was, cheers! |
| 07:49.54 | ChrisH | enuguri: from your paste: INFO: task python:15532 blocked for more than 120 seconds. |
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| 07:50.35 | ChrisH | enuguri: from your paste: INFO: task python:15532 blocked for more than 120 seconds. <<-- this is NO crash or hang from kernel side. Just an process |
| 07:50.51 | enuguri | Chrish: there are out of memory messages in there |
| 07:51.28 | Eino | what hmm, do I need to use some other format for rc.local? I just put the "cat blabla" in it and it doesn't seem to work |
| 07:52.18 | ChrisH | enuguri: No memory outage visible in what you showed. I can see someone simply reset or powercyled the box as the Filesystem needed a cleanup |
| 07:53.28 | enuguri | Chrish: Feb 14 23:28:57 localhost kernel: [305881.466310] python D 34eb8050 0 11250 10326 0x00000000 can you look at the call trace |
| 07:54.06 | ChrisH | enuguri: NO. this belongs to task python:11250 blocked for more than 120 seconds. |
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| 07:55.12 | enuguri | Chrish: I was going through lot of logs I just found it in another log file I will send the link to you soon sorry abt this |
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| 07:56.48 | ChrisH | enuguri: I will leave soon to visit the doctor, but there are other to check and I will have a look into it when I am back. |
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| 07:57.24 | R1cochet | im trying to remove a package and i keep getting an error about unmet dependencies and to use install -f. |
| 07:58.00 | R1cochet | ive tried to clean autoclean autoremove but still get this warning. is there anything else i can do? |
| 07:58.25 | ChrisH | R1cochet: paste the full command and outout to paste.debian.net, add the conntent from sources.list and show the link here. Ten ask again. |
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| 08:01.04 | enuguri | Chrish: here it is http://paste.debian.net/plain/241817 |
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| 08:03.32 | ChrisH | enuguri: yep, there you see OOM killer aktive. Looks like your application behaves unfriendly. Have the developers check the footprint and mem usage. I dunno how to do that with python. |
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| 08:04.09 | enuguri | Chrish: there are other machines running with the same version but they are not exhibiting this behavior |
| 08:04.50 | R1cochet | ChrisH: http://paste.debian.net/241818/ |
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| 08:05.50 | enuguri | Chrish: the only difference I found is when we upgraded the application the old mechanism to trigger other scripts was still left active and due to this there were two scripts triggered to complete the same job |
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| 08:07.03 | ompaul | the vital words were upgraded the application, which implies you have issues with something |
| 08:07.24 | farciarz84 | hi, I have webcam logitech (quickcam) is it possible to run it on debian with google hangout? |
| 08:07.29 | ompaul | is your hardware ok - does it have bad ram and so on, but really OOM is #python or ##python |
| 08:07.50 | farciarz84 | I've tried with virtualbox, but it fails (capture screen is black) |
| 08:07.51 | ompaul | farciarz84: 99.9999% of the time yes |
| 08:08.16 | farciarz84 | ompaul: could you elaborate a bit more ? |
| 08:08.20 | ompaul | virtualbox is not really your best friend - did you pass on the usb ports was it OSE or just VB |
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| 08:09.05 | enuguri | ompaul: I will try to get answers in that channel |
| 08:09.16 | enuguri | thanks Chrish |
| 08:09.16 | ompaul | enuguri: I suspect your hardware |
| 08:09.58 | ompaul | enuguri: if all else is equal - if you run the old version and it doesn't run, but if you run only the new stuff - some code may not be 100% right but OOM indicates something very very wrong |
| 08:09.59 | farciarz84 | ompaul: ehci, usb 2.0 is switched. I've installed dirver from vendor everything went fine except screen is black |
| 08:09.59 | enuguri | ompaul: could it be the memory or else do you think something else |
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| 08:10.17 | ompaul | enuguri: I'm highly suspicious of it |
| 08:10.44 | farciarz84 | ompaul: I have no clue how to change USB in vb to OSE |
| 08:10.58 | ompaul | farciarz84: you can't ose is an edition of virtual box |
| 08:11.06 | ompaul | farciarz84: it won't carry USB |
| 08:11.09 | R1cochet | i am wondering if i can somehow remove old weechat-dev packages and then install weechat-devel packages. i am getting an unmet dependency error when trying to remove old packages. error here http://paste.debian.net/241818/ |
| 08:11.28 | ompaul | farciarz84: my confidence was based on you running it on debian directly |
| 08:11.32 | enuguri | ompaul: oops then we have a bigger problem then I will have to run a check on hundreds of machines tomorrow to see if it happening on them too |
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| 08:12.29 | ompaul | enuguri: you have one program, you run it on several machines - if all machines behave badly - then it is the program, if one behaves badly it is the machine - if they are all virtual machines - then point a finger at the host |
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| 08:12.50 | farciarz84 | ompaul: would be better to run it on debian directly, any tip to install some driver that will recognise cam ? |
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| 08:13.33 | enuguri | ompaul: all are physical machines I hope this is the only one but I just want to be cautious |
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| 08:14.06 | ompaul | enuguri: good testing method have a dev box - copy only those steps to production - but then this is not coding 101 ;-) |
| 08:14.53 | ompaul | farciarz84: it doesn't work like you think it does please read: http://wiki.debian.org/Webcam |
| 08:15.09 | ompaul | farciarz84: does the windows box even see the camera |
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| 08:15.26 | enuguri | ompaul: yeah I will try to replicate this on a test box tomorrow |
| 08:15.28 | ompaul | farciarz84: have you had other equipment plugged into that usb port since the box was booted |
| 08:15.47 | ompaul | enuguri: it should never have gotten out of testing if it was not tested |
| 08:17.11 | enuguri | ompaul: very unfortunate that its rolled out on lot of machine I will contact my dev team and push them on this |
| 08:17.43 | enuguri | ompaul: thanks for your help today I need hit the bed tomorrow is gng to be rough day for me |
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| 08:20.02 | farciarz84 | ompaul: no, lets stay on debian and avoid virtualbox. http://pastebin.com/PF9AhpaE |
| 08:20.49 | n8w | hey guys |
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| 08:23.04 | n8w | i have got a strange problem...i keep experience periodic reboots at approx same time .... /var/log/*.log say nothin, entries always start after the reboot |
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| 08:23.55 | b0lt | n8w: try watching the machine at that time? |
| 08:24.11 | b0lt | n8w: check /var/log/auth.log for logins? |
| 08:24.24 | n8w | b0lt, at 5:30? :) |
| 08:24.35 | b0lt | sure... backup script gone horribly wrong? |
| 08:24.51 | b0lt | some automated reboot because stuff was crashing and someone needed a quick fix? |
| 08:25.08 | b0lt | cleaning crew unplugging server to plug in vaccuum cleaner? (i've actually experienced this one) |
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| 08:26.12 | b0lt | perhaps a bios setting to boot at a given time that goes wrong and shuts the machine down if it's on already? |
| 08:26.17 | b0lt | could be loads of things |
| 08:26.25 | n8w | b0lt, this is the weirdest thing...i can never any entries before the actual reboot... |
| 08:26.42 | n8w | b0lt, *i can never see any entries... |
| 08:27.19 | n8w | b0lt, i have reviewed cronjobs...nothin |
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| 08:28.44 | n8w | b0lt, however...this happens when i have my monitoring python scripts running...it runs ok for a whole day, but at approx 5:30 the machine goes down....there r no memory problems, temperature etc |
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| 08:29.55 | b0lt | cleaning crew. |
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| 08:35.39 | n8w | b0lt, what do u mean? |
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| 08:37.07 | blubberdiblub | he means someone yanking the power cable |
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| 08:38.18 | elemay2 | hi, is there an easy way to fix file permissions on a debian squeeze system? i did a backup and restore using tar command, now some permissions are wrong. e.g. /var/cache/man is not man:root its proxy:root. |
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| 08:39.49 | n8w | blubberdiblub, , nope im sure that doesnt happen...the cleanin crew comes at around 9 |
| 08:40.03 | n8w | blubberdiblub, in fact they r around right now:) |
| 08:40.44 | farciarz84 | would one help me to isntall qc-usb on wheezy? |
| 08:40.57 | blubberdiblub | n8w, checked the integrity of your files with demsums and the integrity of your ram with memtest? |
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| 08:41.46 | farciarz84 | /tmp/qc-usb-0.6.6/quickcam.h:79:28: fatal error: linux/autoconf.h - no such file or dir |
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| 08:42.25 | debianN00b | hello |
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| 08:43.07 | debianN00b | Do i need to copy the firmware into my usb stick? |
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| 08:43.15 | n8w | blubberdiblub, nope... demsums? |
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| 08:43.25 | debianN00b | It is just mounting as read-only |
| 08:43.38 | debianN00b | need your help babilen |
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| 08:45.33 | dawud | n8w: debsums |
| 08:46.17 | dawud | farciarz84: you need the headers for your kernel |
| 08:46.38 | blubberdiblub | n8w, sorry, debsums of course |
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| 08:47.28 | farciarz84 | dawud: I guess the problem is with old gc-usb package |
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| 08:48.11 | farciarz84 | the linux/autoconf.h remind me some old 2.X kernels |
| 08:48.13 | n8w | blubberdiblub, dawud k thx |
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| 08:50.01 | debianN00b | There was an error that "Missing required firmware" ... So i downloaded the firmware.tar.gz (As babilen said yesterday) ) but how i put this file into the USB? |
| 08:50.06 | farciarz84 | http://bpaste.net/show/YBNwenftn9F8vcDZ8guP/ |
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| 08:58.29 | debianN00b | anyone can help me please |
| 08:58.31 | debianN00b | ? |
| 08:58.44 | EasyAsPie | hi |
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| 09:07.11 | dizzylizzy | debianN00b, what operating system are you downloading the .tar.gz into and using to put on the USB |
| 09:07.19 | EasyAsPie | hi |
| 09:08.23 | dizzylizzy | Also, I had an experience recently where the Debian Installer recommended "missing" non-free firmware for my ethernet NIC that, it turns out, is completely unnecessary since my hardware is functionally supported by the libre kernel driver |
| 09:08.34 | dizzylizzy | probably not the case here, but it's what I experienced |
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| 09:09.45 | debianN00b | dizzylizzy, I am trying to install debian from usb but it is missing NIC , iwlw firmware.. So manually i am trying to load downloaded firmware into USB then reinstalling debian |
| 09:10.07 | zinx | dizzylizzy: some drivers support several different cards, and not all of the cards need firmware |
| 09:10.21 | dizzylizzy | ah |
| 09:10.31 | dizzylizzy | zinx, Yes |
| 09:10.47 | dizzylizzy | it's just frustrating that the kernel is sending the firmware request to the DI unnecessarily |
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| 09:12.14 | dizzylizzy | debianN00b, I think you have a few options: either put the drivers on a second USB stick, or burn the Debian install ISO to a CD and boot off that instead if you have a CD drive and then use your USB for the firmware; you can also try partitioning the USB stick so that it boots from the partition that has debian installer on it but you can still mount the *other* partition that has the firmware, but I've never done this and wouldn't know how |
| 09:12.30 | dizzylizzy | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06s04.html.en << this is the official installation manual's note on this subject; it doesn't seem very complete to me |
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| 09:14.07 | dizzylizzy | debianN00b, sorry, I should have asked; what exactly are you having trouble doing |
| 09:14.12 | debianN00b | Unfortunately my CD writer is not working suddenly at all. I can't modify anything on USB since it is mount as only "Read-only" after cp;sync debian.iso there |
| 09:14.15 | debianN00b | I am confused |
| 09:14.23 | dizzylizzy | yeah |
| 09:14.30 | dizzylizzy | the debian install ISO is read-only |
| 09:14.38 | dizzylizzy | can you not install the system without this driver? |
| 09:15.04 | dizzylizzy | it may be easier to install and then once you're in Debian download the driver with something that isn't the wifi (do you have an ethernet connection?) |
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| 09:16.43 | debianN00b | Perhaps it is possible but will i be able to connect to internet with Ethernet if it is even ask for NIC firmware? |
| 09:17.49 | debianN00b | Going out to burn it on CD , Then i will test USB on VM and then will post the tutorial somewhere if works.... It is really should be easy to do :) |
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| 09:18.08 | debianN00b | Just issue is the Firmware :( |
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| 09:18.14 | dizzylizzy | Hmm, I'm not sure. You might not be able to. Are you installing this as your entire system, or will you be keeping what was already there? |
| 09:18.19 | dizzylizzy | dual-booting |
| 09:18.27 | dizzylizzy | ? |
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| 09:18.30 | debianN00b | dual-booting |
| 09:18.32 | dizzylizzy | Okay |
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| 09:19.38 | dizzylizzy | so maybe use the net-install, but without networking enabled (you can do this through expert-mode)--then after finishing a very minimal system install, you can go back to Windows, reformat the USB stick so you can put files on it again, and extract the tarball then |
| 09:20.10 | dizzylizzy | Yeah, it is a bit difficult if you have to use non-free drivers with Debian, but I'm of the mind that that's a good thing in the end :-/ |
| 09:20.16 | debianN00b | my net horrible slow.... |
| 09:20.36 | debianN00b | That is why i sometime think about customizing the ISO for once |
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| 09:20.42 | debianN00b | But dunno how |
| 09:20.46 | dizzylizzy | what ISO are you using |
| 09:21.00 | debianN00b | Wheezy KDE CD1 |
| 09:21.09 | dizzylizzy | okay |
| 09:21.19 | debianN00b | debian-wheezy-DI-rc1-amd64-kde-CD-1.iso |
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| 09:21.30 | dizzylizzy | maybe that's better than the NetInstall, but I'd still recommend the NetInstall anyway. I gotta sleep now though :( sorry, good luck |
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| 09:21.40 | debianN00b | np |
| 09:21.48 | debianN00b | Thanks for trying to help me |
| 09:21.54 | babilen | debianN00b: You are using ... hehe, okay thanks. You /might/ have two partitions on you USB stick and the second one might be large enough for you to unpack the firmware.tar.gz there. |
| 09:22.17 | debianN00b | omg |
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| 09:22.39 | debianN00b | babilen, I need to make two partition before doing anything? |
| 09:22.58 | babilen | debianN00b: IIRC I talked a lot about firmware yesterday and also recommended to use the installer with firmware. (/msg dpkg firmware images wheezy), but that doesn't contain the packages for KDE (or any other DE) -- Configure it to install KDE by following the instructions in "/msg dpkg install kde" |
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| 09:23.12 | n8w | what exactly syslogd --no-forward means? |
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| 09:23.45 | babilen | debianN00b: No, IIRC simply by copying the image to the USB stick (cp debian.iso /dev/sdX ; sync) you'll have two partitions. I am not sure if the second one is large enough for the firmware though. |
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| 09:25.53 | babilen | debianN00b: Would you mind checking if you do, in fact, have two partitions on your KDE CD1 install USB stick? |
| 09:26.49 | babilen | debianN00b: Also: Which firmware does it require? Do you really need that firmware during the installation? (i.e. because you cannot connect to the network without it) You can always install the firmware later if this is for something you don't need during the install |
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| 09:34.10 | debianN00b | babilen, i again have to try to install |
| 09:35.10 | debianN00b | Because i forgot that two-3 firmware it was asking for... I already told you yesterday..(But i now can't find the txt)... |
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| 09:35.44 | debianN00b | One was for wireless and perhaps another one was for NIC(like) |
| 09:35.51 | debianN00b | not sure though |
| 09:35.58 | debianN00b | have to try gain |
| 09:36.00 | debianN00b | *a |
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| 09:36.20 | debianN00b | i will be back soon |
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| 09:38.02 | SamanthaD | Is there a way to instruct apt to install and track updates for only a SINGLE package from a specific repository? My stupid network card doesn't have a FOSS driver available but I'd really rather not enable all of non-free... |
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| 09:40.01 | BenNZ | SamanthaD: http://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences |
| 09:40.58 | SamanthaD | BenNZ: Yes... I saw that but doesn't that only work for pinning a package from, say, unstable when you're running testing? |
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| 09:42.06 | BenNZ | SamanthaD: o i c , i may have misread the question , sorry |
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| 09:42.55 | SamanthaD | BenNZ: It's okay! I'm just trying to accommodate my network card wile still running as close to a 100% FOSS system as possible. |
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| 09:51.28 | Nahiyan | Debian's Live KDE flavour's KDE doesn't start |
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| 10:02.37 | n8w | do u guys know what this means? /USR/SBIN/CRON[17593]: (root) MAIL (mailed 17 bytes of output but got status 0x0001 ) |
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| 10:03.39 | joltcan_ | n8w: I would assume it's because your email sending capabilites are not configured |
| 10:03.41 | jelly | n8w: /usr/sbin/sendmail command, used to send mail by local clients, failed with a nonzero exit status |
| 10:04.30 | jelly | n8w: figure out which package brings it, and see if there's something in the logs (/var/log/mail.log usually) |
| 10:05.04 | joltcan_ | n8w: or configure your MTA if you haven't done so (like dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config) |
| 10:05.15 | n8w | jelly, ye there is a lot of stuff: localhost sSMTP[17618]: Connection lost in middle of processing |
| 10:05.32 | babilen | debianN00b: Ah, right. Yeah, I seem to recall that you needed firmware for both your NIC and your wireless adaptor. That leaves you with two options now: 1. Use the firmware netinstall and configure it to install KDE (see <firmware images wheezy> and <install kde>) or 2. Check if the USB stick created with the KDE CD1 has two partitions and try to unpack the firmware.tar.gz to the second one. (if there is enough space, maybe you can copy only the ... |
| 10:05.39 | babilen | ... realtek and iwlwifi ones (or whatever you really need)) |
| 10:05.49 | n8w | jelly, i dont know where to configure it since i have got no /etc/aliases |
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| 10:06.37 | n8w | jelly, im using sendmail from my bashscript...but i configure it manually...the other thing is that i dunno where to set a proper email to b used |
| 10:07.47 | joltcan_ | n8w: can you send email manually? |
| 10:08.09 | joltcan_ | n8w: if so, crontab can use MAILTO=<something> |
| 10:08.20 | jelly | n8w: dpkg -L ssmtp (or whatever the package name), find and read the docs |
| 10:08.40 | n8w | jelly, ye ssmtp is the package |
| 10:09.17 | n8w | joltcan_, ye but i dont know ehere to set the email now its root@localhost |
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| 10:10.08 | joltcan | n8w: in your crontab, set MAILTO=<something> |
| 10:10.21 | n8w | joltcan, k thx |
| 10:10.22 | joltcan | n8w: man 5 crontab |
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| 10:11.07 | n8w | joltcan, but i still think that i need to setup the ssmtp.conf properly...to use gmail etc |
| 10:11.18 | _jacks | hi, im using mpd for music, while a song is playing i cant get any sound out of iceweasel, i assumed it would multiplex the sound like windows does, but theres nothing. if a song in the playlist stops and i use iceweasel and a page requires sound it seems to lock and mpd refuses to play sound anymore.. how can i make it multiplex the sound? |
| 10:11.31 | joltcan | n8w: thats a good guess |
| 10:11.40 | n8w | joltcan, which is in /etc/ssmtp/ ...all good now:) |
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| 10:11.44 | n8w | joltcan, thx |
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| 10:13.25 | _jacks | i had the same issue with google chrome, it seemed to lock and refuse to allow other applications the ability to play sound, which is really frustrating having to close a browser each time i want to play a song |
| 10:13.29 | _jacks | anyone got a work around for this? |
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| 10:25.49 | petn-randall | _jacks: Your soundcard can't handle multiple streams. Use pulseaudio, which multiplexes those streams before handing them to your soundcard. |
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| 10:26.53 | jelly | <pedant> many soundcards support multiple streams, it's just that alsa drivers implement just the basic functionality </pedant> |
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| 10:30.08 | petn-randall | jelly++ |
| 10:30.45 | p3rror | how to sort the output of du -sh by size |
| 10:31.30 | debianN00b | Got my CD written from CD shop.... Next will try to use USB on vm(Important)... Gonna install and will back |
| 10:31.54 | _jacks | thanks, i'll look into it |
| 10:32.02 | daemonkeeper | p3rror: | sort |
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| 10:33.12 | Kajover | hi. do you know how long it will take for debian to implement the 3.8 kernel? |
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| 10:34.20 | daemonkeeper | Kajover: http://packages.debian.org/experimental/linux-image-3.8-trunk-amd64 |
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| 10:36.22 | Kajover | daemonkeeper, thank you. out of experience, how long would it take - a year? |
| 10:36.24 | m8 | Hi, where's the best place to put post-up script for a custom network interface? |
| 10:36.34 | sKeiths | hi, i want to audit a users password, I think it is something ridicually simple and want to confirm that. Do I need to attempt to login as that user or is there a tool i can use to guess the password? |
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| 10:36.38 | p3rror | daemonkeeper, no |
| 10:37.21 | daemonkeeper | p3rror: no what? use -n and an appropriate sort key (-k) |
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| 10:38.12 | p3rror | daemonkeeper, how that |
| 10:38.22 | p3rror | daemonkeeper, there are no -k option in du command |
| 10:38.31 | daemonkeeper | p3rror: I talk about | sort |
| 10:38.51 | petn-randall | p3rror: "du -s | sort -n" |
| 10:39.42 | p3rror | petn-randall, does not work |
| 10:39.45 | petn-randall | p3rror: If you use du -sh it won't sort right since 3M < 4k < 5M |
| 10:39.51 | petn-randall | p3rror: it does. |
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| 10:39.53 | p3rror | petn-randall, yes that is |
| 10:40.08 | petn-randall | p3rror: unless you provide an meaningful error message, it works. |
| 10:40.11 | p3rror | petn-randall, it will sort integer in with same size K, M ,G |
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| 10:40.36 | p3rror | petn-randall, for example it can not sort 4K and 3M |
| 10:40.37 | petn-randall | p3rror: unless you provide a meaningful explanation what doesn't work, it works. |
| 10:41.22 | typoclass | p3rror: hello, have you tried "du -h | sort -h"? |
| 10:42.14 | p3rror | typoclass, yes it is worked |
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| 10:42.52 | petn-randall | p3rror: btw, you can also use 'ncdu' if you're often checking your disk usage. |
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| 11:00.38 | sKeiths | found a tool to test user pass combo. I can test with pamtest.py. |
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| 11:10.10 | daedeloth | building a NAS running on debian, what to buy? |
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| 11:11.46 | ChrisH | daedeloth: Disks? |
| 11:11.58 | Walther | Hello folks! I'm trying to install debian on a virtual server server (a HW server for all our virtuals), using KVM. I don't have a recent enough template image. Using " kvm --name mysql55 -m 512 -hda /dev/2d/mysql55 -cdrom debian-6.0.7-amd64-netinst.iso -boot d" I get framebuffer errors as I'm ssh'd to the server, and with -nographics I get nothing. |
| 11:12.09 | daedeloth | yea but how could I do it? I would like to make it hot swapable, or at least extendable |
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| 11:12.34 | ChrisH | daedeloth: then use mdadm for mirroring and LVM to flexibility |
| 11:12.47 | daedeloth | googling |
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| 11:13.06 | daedeloth | mdadm is just way to manage raid? |
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| 11:13.36 | daedeloth | ah ok so there is a way to just add a disk to the raid array |
| 11:13.44 | Walther | So, any ideas on how to get a debian installer working in ssh/terminal environment with no graphics? |
| 11:14.04 | ompaul | Walther: did you create a .img file to make stuff happen in? |
| 11:14.16 | ChrisH | daedeloth: yes... LVM. But you most probably do not want to add a single disk but a mirror. But in general you are right |
| 11:14.29 | daedeloth | well I was thinking about using RAID5 again |
| 11:14.49 | Walther | ompaul: I created a logical volume by using lvcreate |
| 11:15.02 | ompaul | Walther: how I do it ... qemu-img create -f qcow2 foo.img 10G |
| 11:15.08 | daedeloth | so raid5 with lvm on top is the way to go?J |
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| 11:15.18 | ompaul | Walther: then I do kvm --name foo -m 512 -hda foo.img -cdrom mini.iso -boot d |
| 11:15.33 | Walther | ompaul: any idea how to get that working with a logical volume? |
| 11:15.33 | ompaul | Walther: then I do kvm --name foo -m 512 -hda foo.img -boot d |
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| 11:16.05 | ompaul | Walther: you need the volume to be available - what I would do is make a partition and then slap the img file on it |
| 11:16.43 | Walther | the volume is available - it's right there at /dev/2d/mysql55 like I specified in the command above |
| 11:16.51 | ompaul | Walther: mounted as what? |
| 11:17.02 | ompaul | it's not available it's ready for formatting |
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| 11:17.14 | ompaul | available for use - as in useful |
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| 11:19.10 | ompaul | Walther: here a quick search threw this up might give you more of an idea - not tested looks sensible to me http://vitobotta.com/setting-up-kvm-lvm-virtual-machine-host/ |
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| 11:20.32 | ChrisH | daedeloth: I am not sure if you can simply extend an existing Raid5 with one single Disk. You need to have the Disk space to spread the Parities on. Please check that. I personally do not use Raid5 setups. |
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| 11:21.08 | daedeloth | so you would go for a RAID0 then? |
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| 11:21.16 | daedeloth | euh 1 |
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| 11:23.32 | ChrisH | daedeloth: I simply asked you to check your idea, mentioning an potenial problem. IIRC there is an IRC Channel for mdadm. You might want to ask them. I personally do setups with Raid 1 for saftey and Raid0 parts (for speed) into LVM. And I know that I will loose data on t he Raid0 parts, but thats OK for this scratch or temporary data |
| 11:24.00 | daedeloth | ok :) |
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| 11:24.17 | daedeloth | thanks |
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| 11:24.24 | ChrisH | daedeloth: YW |
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| 11:24.33 | debianN00b | :):) |
| 11:24.38 | debianN00b | I am on Debian now |
| 11:24.44 | debianN00b | Feeling better :) |
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| 11:26.41 | Walther | ompaul: It doesn't appear that the how server has any of the logical volumes for virtuals mounted as is, they're just used by the virtuals. I'm not completely sure what is happening in here |
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| 11:30.15 | debianN00b | Everything Fine, Installed without those firmware .... |
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| 11:31.03 | Walther | But yeah, is a debian netinstall iso supposed to be able to run in -nographic kvm? |
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| 11:34.13 | debianN00b | Hope it will never crash if i even don't shutdown my dell xps 502x for week, month . Because it happened on n00b Ubuntu |
| 11:34.43 | debianN00b | I heard that was problem of kernel 3.2 , no sure |
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| 11:46.35 | daedeloth | what is the difference between all these intel i7's? |
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| 11:47.40 | Lasse- | K models have the multiplier unlocked thus making overclocking possible. |
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| 11:47.51 | Lasse- | They're also have better graphics chips than non-K versions. |
| 11:47.57 | daedeloth | aaah ok |
| 11:47.58 | daedeloth | thanks |
| 11:48.29 | daedeloth | 50 extra for a k |
| 11:48.39 | daedeloth | so, is it worth it? |
| 11:49.18 | Lasse- | Depends what you're planning to do, if you're not interested in overclocking and do not need better integrated graphics, get a non-K if your budget is tight. |
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| 11:49.58 | Lasse- | On CPU-side K-model doesn't offer speed over non-K. |
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| 11:50.13 | Lasse- | unless, obviously, overclocked. |
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| 11:51.14 | daedeloth | well, not much of a tweaker, so I'll just go for the normal one |
| 11:51.15 | voxadam_ | Can anyone point me to some docs explaining the best way to disable direct root logins and enable sudo in a manner similar to Ubuntu? |
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| 11:53.12 | Lasse- | voxadam_: physical root-login or SSH? |
| 11:54.07 | gabedwrds | voxadam_: I don't have a link, but I'd say disable root's password and use the wheel group |
| 11:54.09 | voxadam_ | Lasse-: SSH at very least. |
| 11:54.53 | CybDev | apt-get install sudo && visudo && echo "PermitRootLogin no" >> /etc/ssh/sshd_config && /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
| 11:54.58 | CybDev | or something along those lines |
| 11:55.01 | voxadam_ | gabedwrds: So I just need to add my regular account to wheel, install sudo, and delete root's password in /etc/passwd? |
| 11:55.19 | gabedwrds | pretty much |
| 11:55.30 | gabedwrds | I'm not sure what method exactly ubuntu uses to disable root |
| 11:55.33 | Walther | wheel or sudo group |
| 11:55.41 | gabedwrds | but the default sudoers gives full access to the wheel group |
| 11:55.45 | Lasse- | passwd -l root locks root's password thus making it impossible to login root physically. |
| 11:55.57 | voxadam_ | Thanks. After moving back from Ubuntu I was surprised to see a fully enabled root in Debian for some reason. |
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| 11:56.09 | babilen | dpkg: wheel |
| 11:56.09 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, wheel is the traditional name of security group 0 in BSD (from slang for "big wheel" as a powerful person). This group is irrelevant in the default Debian configs but you can use the "sudo" group to give users the ability to run commands as root through sudo; ask me about <sudoers>. Alternatively, look at the pam_wheel module for <PAM> which will only allow su to root from members of the wheel group. |
| 11:56.14 | Lasse- | and with SSH do what CybDev said. |
| 11:56.54 | gabedwrds | babilen is right, I got that mixed up. sudo group, not wheel |
| 11:57.00 | Lasse- | Also if your SSH is connectable publicly, you might want to consider to fail2ban to cut down login-spam. |
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| 11:57.14 | Lasse- | it spams an ip after defined amounts of tried SSH-logins for defined time. |
| 11:57.20 | Lasse- | erm |
| 11:57.23 | Lasse- | bans, not spams. |
| 11:57.49 | babilen | wouldn't mind spamming them :) |
| 11:57.50 | ompaul | Lasse-: bans the spams is what you mean |
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| 11:58.00 | Lasse- | Yeah. :) |
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| 11:58.49 | babilen | voxadam_: What's wrong with having root? |
| 11:58.51 | gabedwrds | ubuntu doesn't bother with PermitRootLogin no, as far as I can tell |
| 11:58.51 | CybDev | very little point in disabling root access on a box you have physical access to |
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| 11:59.10 | Lasse- | Maybe he wants it Ubuntu-like. |
| 11:59.20 | CybDev | gabedwrds: probably because the root user has no password set, and its got "allowblankpasswords no" by default |
| 11:59.41 | CybDev | or whatever the ssh directive is, i keep forgetting |
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| 12:00.05 | gabedwrds | yeah |
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| 12:00.12 | CybDev | "PermitEmptyPasswords no" |
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| 12:00.41 | gabedwrds | you'll get more or less the same effect from disabling root's password... except potentially if root has a public key set up (I don't know what happens in that case) |
| 12:00.47 | babilen | Lasse-: I always had the feeling that this was simply done because "more than one account confuses a user" -- Which is IMHO simply not true, but then. *shrug* |
| 12:01.23 | Lasse- | Many people seem to prefer a single all powerful account. |
| 12:01.23 | CybDev | using sudo commands gives better logfile history, ofc that again is invalid if you do sudo su - |
| 12:01.38 | xevwork | What happened to #debian-mentors? I was just kicked out of it with a message saying it was closed. |
| 12:02.01 | babilen | Lasse-: Why one has to disable root for that is beyond me though. I also use sudo locally, but I see no point whatsoever in "removing root" |
| 12:02.01 | CybDev | and it protects users from themselves, running random websides and such as root isnt the best idea :-) |
| 12:02.20 | babilen | xevwork: The channel is with the rest of the official ones on irc.debian.org (aka irc.oftc.net) not here on Freenode |
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| 12:02.51 | xevwork | babilen: Thanks, I just found that on the debian.org news section. I'm way outta date, I guess :) |
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| 12:03.15 | babilen | dpkg: tell xevwork -about oftc move |
| 12:03.21 | babilen | xevwork: Yeah, that was some time ago :) |
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| 12:08.16 | Lasse- | babilen: Me neither. |
| 12:08.43 | Lasse- | I mean, I don't see the point. |
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| 12:08.47 | Lasse- | I also use sudo. |
| 12:09.24 | babilen | Lasse-: yay! high-five! :) |
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| 12:10.28 | Lasse- | It's more convient (not sure if spelled right) for me to use sudo when running commands needing higher permission, instead of su rooting and then exiting back to normal user. |
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| 12:38.08 | hyppias | after apt-get install proftpd, I get this message: "script 'iptables' missing LSB tags and overrides. cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration." I checked the ProFTPd configuration file syntax, which is OK. What do I do wrong? hat is a solution? |
| 12:39.03 | mashimaro | opnbox |
| 12:39.41 | Iridos | hyppias, that has nothing to do with proftpd, but with something else that probably added /etc/init.d/iptables |
| 12:40.59 | hyppias | OK... any idea how to solve ? stop iptables? |
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| 12:41.41 | Iridos | well... first would be good to find out/remember how you added that |
| 12:41.48 | hyppias | no that won help... |
| 12:41.56 | hyppias | hm |
| 12:42.41 | Iridos | if you added that yourself manually... you should have started off from /etc/init.d/skeleton, which contains the correct lsb tags to be set/edited by you to fit the actual script |
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| 12:43.48 | hyppias | what is LSB? |
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| 12:46.17 | Iridos | dpkg, lsb tags |
| 12:46.17 | dpkg | From squeeze onwards, Debian uses a dependency-based boot sequence (see /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.Debian). This requires all init scripts having appropriate headers, so that the correct order of execution can be determined. Scripts like S25libdevmapper1.02 are left over from Sarge and can be deleted; your own scripts will need LSB headers added: http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts |
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| 12:47.06 | hyppias | thnx |
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| 12:48.12 | hyppias | so maybe iptables is an old script? |
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| 12:49.06 | Iridos | <Iridos> well... first would be good to find out/remember how you added that |
| 12:49.49 | hyppias | pffff.... don 't remember.... |
| 12:49.50 | Iridos | as far as I can tell it's not from Debian... so how should I know? |
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| 12:50.34 | hyppias | iptables script does not look anything like skeleton |
| 12:50.35 | jhutchins_wk | hyppias: What release of debian is on this system? |
| 12:50.48 | hyppias | wheezy |
| 12:51.19 | jhutchins_wk | hyppias: Was it upgraded from some other release? |
| 12:51.33 | hyppias | no |
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| 12:51.53 | Iridos | ... |
| 12:52.01 | jhutchins_wk | hyppias: What does dpkg -S /etc/init.d/iptables tell you? |
| 12:52.04 | hyppias | hm.... maybe, just maybe.... I addded iptables later... |
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| 12:53.54 | hyppias | it says no path found found matching pattern .... |
| 12:54.24 | hyppias | but iptables is there |
| 12:54.57 | jelly | hyppias: it could be left over from etch or earlier |
| 12:55.03 | Iridos | but it's not part of any package |
| 12:55.07 | Iridos | jelly, no, it could not |
| 12:55.11 | hyppias | or put in from etch....? |
| 12:55.13 | jelly | not now it's not |
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| 12:55.49 | hyppias | etch was nowhere near the computer before wheezy |
| 12:56.02 | jelly | Iridos: wouldn't be the first or the last leftover init script |
| 12:56.12 | Iridos | jelly, on a fresh install, it would |
| 12:56.22 | jelly | oh, it a fresh install? |
| 12:56.35 | hyppias | maybe reinstall iptables and see? |
| 12:56.36 | Iridos | <jhutchins_wk> hyppias: Was it upgraded from some other release? |
| 12:56.36 | Iridos | <hyppias> no |
| 12:56.44 | Iridos | hyppias, no! |
| 12:57.01 | Iridos | it's not part of any package and debian package system has nothing to do with it |
| 12:57.08 | jelly | then hyppias needs to contact whoever installed the system |
| 12:57.10 | hyppias | no: wheezy was installed on virgin machine |
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| 12:57.18 | hyppias | I installed |
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| 12:59.10 | jelly | Matthew 6:3 comes to mind |
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| 12:59.37 | jhutchins_wk | hyppias: Wherever you got the script from, it doesn't comply with the Linux Standards Base for init scripts, which means that upstart can't process it properly. The older init system was less picky, but the new system allows for scripts to depend on other scripts or services to be up or down before they run. |
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| 13:00.10 | jhutchins_wk | We'd be a little bit curious about where you got it; you could paste it somewhere for us to look at. |
| 13:00.11 | hyppias | ok |
| 13:00.43 | hyppias | aptitude says iptables is versio 1.4.14-3.1 |
| 13:01.11 | hyppias | as i said: it does not look anything like skeleton |
| 13:01.18 | jhutchins_wk | hyppias: Generally you should set up iptables before networking comes up. Some people put the scripts in the if-up files, and I think there's a way to do "pre-up". You can also just throw it into rc.local. |
| 13:01.40 | jhutchins_wk | hyppias: (Or put it in /usr/local and call it from rc.local) |
| 13:01.54 | hyppias | ok |
| 13:02.43 | jhutchins_wk | hyppias: iptables is the tools to manipulate the iptables in the kernel, but does not include any scripts. |
| 13:03.08 | hyppias | the script makes some rules... |
| 13:03.26 | hyppias | like with "drop" and "ports" |
| 13:03.29 | jhutchins_wk | hyppias: http://wiki.debian.org/iptables |
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| 13:05.51 | blue_sky | is there a way to force resolv.conf to be re-read, I've made changes and they're not showing yet |
| 13:06.18 | babilen | blue_sky: They should as soon as you save it. |
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| 13:07.17 | blue_sky | babilen: hmmm, I'll check my DNS servers are correct |
| 13:07.21 | mallxs | I have setup 2 machines with pluseaudio but i can't get a sound form one machine to a other |
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| 13:08.26 | mallxs | question 1: if i set the default server .. is that with user@machine.tld or just machine.tld ? |
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| 13:08.44 | jhutchins_wk | babilen: Does debian install a DNS cache utility by default? |
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| 13:09.12 | jelly | jhutchins_wk: definitely no |
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| 13:09.45 | thanasisk | hello, how can I make my hostname to survive across reboots? I have edited /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname but it always comes up as none |
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| 13:10.07 | thanasisk | for example: Linux (none) 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Feb 25 00:26:11 UTC 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 13:10.36 | babilen | jhutchins_wk: I don't think so |
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| 13:11.51 | n8w | how do i set current path and username for remote tabs in konsole? |
| 13:12.01 | n8w | just lettin u know ahead, edit current profile-->remote tab doesnt work |
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| 13:12.18 | n8w | whatever i put in, it still shows ~ |
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| 13:13.15 | thanasisk | invoke-rc.d hostname.sh start |
| 13:13.16 | thanasisk | hostname: the specified hostname is invalid |
| 13:13.17 | thanasisk | invoke-rc.d: initscript hostname.sh, action "start" failed. |
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| 13:14.53 | babilen | dpkg: tell thanasisk -about hostname |
| 13:15.01 | jhutchins_wk | thanasisk: the hostname command is supposed to set it permanently. |
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| 13:15.19 | thanasisk | jhutchins_wk: i know but it is not working in my case :) |
| 13:15.26 | babilen | thanasisk: Which hostname are you using? |
| 13:15.31 | thanasisk | prelive-blog |
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| 13:15.54 | jhutchins_wk | dhcp could be overwriting it. |
| 13:16.04 | thanasisk | the host is not under dhcp |
| 13:16.07 | babilen | Can you use - ? |
| 13:16.18 | thanasisk | babilen: i am not sure |
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| 13:17.18 | thanasisk | babilen: hostname is not complaining as it would complain for prelive_blog for example |
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| 13:17.29 | thanasisk | but on reboot, (none) |
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| 13:18.55 | babilen | thanasisk: Which version of Debian? What does "dpkg -l hostname|tail -n1" give you? What is in your /etc/hosts ? What about /etc/hostname? |
| 13:19.00 | Iridos | thanasisk, does sh -x /etc/init.d/hostname.sh provide a clue? |
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| 13:19.30 | Iridos | well, "sh -x /etc/init.d/hostname.sh start" of course |
| 13:19.53 | thanasisk | + hostname prelive-blog |
| 13:19.53 | thanasisk | hostname: the specified hostname is invalid |
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| 13:20.07 | thanasisk | !! and how come when i set it manually it does not complain? |
| 13:20.23 | babilen | thanasisk: Could you answer my questions? |
| 13:20.37 | babilen | thanasisk: Paste relevant output/files to http://paste.debian.net |
| 13:20.43 | thanasisk | sure |
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| 13:23.32 | thanasisk | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/241888/ answers all your questions |
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| 13:24.10 | babilen | thanasisk: Thanks, could you check if you have trailing whitespace in /etc/hostname ? |
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| 13:25.16 | bga_ | hi |
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| 13:25.26 | bga_ | is anyone uses here https://github.com/maxexcloo/Minimal ? |
| 13:25.31 | thanasisk | babilen i had a space after blog |
| 13:25.38 | babilen | thanasisk: There you go. |
| 13:25.49 | babilen | judd: bug 650822 |
| 13:25.50 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/650822 in hostname (closed): «hostname set hostname to (none)»; severity: normal; opened: 2011-12-03; last modified: 2012-01-20. |
| 13:26.30 | mallxs | ok i now have pulseaudio between two machines.. but it sounds like they are killing a dwarf in marmite |
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| 13:26.35 | babilen | thanasisk: Just remove that trailing space and you should be fine |
| 13:26.39 | thanasisk | it works now, thanks babilen and everyone :) |
| 13:26.50 | babilen | w00t :) |
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| 13:39.36 | jelly | dpkg: qotd278 is <mallxs> ok i now have pulseaudio between two machines.. but it sounds like they are killing a dwarf in marmite |
| 13:39.36 | dpkg | jelly: okay |
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| 13:45.00 | mikunos | hi guys I need to looking for about 33 files in my pc but I don't know if this command is correct: find / -name "myfile.doc" |
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| 13:45.07 | mikunos | any hint? |
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| 13:45.37 | deepy | if it's called myfile.doc then that command is correct |
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| 13:45.42 | deepy | but you could see if locate knows about them |
| 13:45.46 | deepy | it's a lot faster |
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| 13:51.41 | bga_ | why apt dont see http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libx/libxml2/libxml2_2.7.8.dfsg-2+squeeze6_i386.deb while its wget ed ok |
| 13:51.44 | bga_ | ? |
| 13:52.21 | bga_ | source.list |
| 13:52.22 | bga_ | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free |
| 13:52.22 | bga_ | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib non-free |
| 13:52.22 | bga_ | deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free |
| 13:52.22 | bga_ | deb http://packages.dotdeb.org squeeze all |
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| 13:53.25 | jelly | bga_: even after running an apt-get update to make sure? |
| 13:54.01 | jelly | ...the lists are uptodate? |
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| 13:54.25 | educr0w | Hello, I want to have my debian instalation with openbox similar to crunchbang, is ok to follow steps in comment #11 http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=5930 ?? |
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| 13:55.31 | bga_ | jelly http://vpaste.net/kPC3n |
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| 13:56.35 | babilen | dpkg: tell bga_ -about bat |
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| 13:57.58 | saki` | hey ho |
| 13:58.15 | saki` | how is everyone today? |
| 13:58.25 | bga_ | jelly apt-get update helped. thanks |
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| 13:59.19 | saki` | okayyy... |
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| 13:59.21 | saki` | so anyway |
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| 13:59.47 | saki` | i wanted to ask a slightly broad question |
| 14:00.01 | saki` | i'm trying to test this out: sourcefabric.org/en/airtime/ |
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| 14:00.34 | saki` | no real experience with debian linux besides basic use here and there |
| 14:00.55 | saki` | i was wondering if it'd run on a live debian USB stick |
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| 14:01.07 | jelly | no $$ for a SAM license, eh? |
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| 14:02.31 | saki` | jelly, are you talking to me? |
| 14:02.49 | jelly | commenting on what you said, yes |
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| 14:03.02 | saki` | ah. |
| 14:03.30 | saki` | i was under the impression debian was free. but whatever that is, and whatever it costs, i likely don't have the money for it |
| 14:03.33 | saki` | just yet though |
| 14:03.46 | saki` | still trying to test out said software |
| 14:03.50 | jelly | if you have enough RAM (4-8GB) you'll be able to install all kinds of extra software on top of a live cd for testing |
| 14:04.12 | saki` | trying to setup a radio station for a bunch of underground musicians |
| 14:04.14 | saki` | ah ok |
| 14:04.27 | saki` | i have a workstation that i'd be testing it on, 8gb ram on there |
| 14:04.41 | jelly | still, USB sticks are somewhat slow and it probably make more sense to install the OS on a proper disk and then test stuff |
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| 14:05.30 | jelly | (SAM is a well-known, well featured internet radio product) |
| 14:05.40 | saki` | ah |
| 14:05.46 | LordDeath | do you guys know a good tutorial for configuring spamassassin with postfix? |
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| 14:06.20 | saki` | well thanks jelly, let me try and get it running for now i suppose. |
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| 14:09.36 | bga_ | blindy ran https://github.com/maxexcloo/Minimal/blob/master/minimal.sh |
| 14:09.55 | bga_ | its removed kernel |
| 14:10.04 | bga_ | hell script |
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| 14:10.34 | ompaul | bga_: danger there |
| 14:10.52 | bga_ | already installed new one |
| 14:11.01 | ompaul | and rebooted for stability? |
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| 14:26.17 | juken | Hi all, I'm having trouble installing VirtualBox, I've pasted the terminal output here: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/18881a37/ let me know if anyone has any ideas. Thanks! |
| 14:27.06 | somiaj | juken: what versin of debian? |
| 14:27.22 | debianN00b | I am also having some problem installing vm workstation |
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| 14:27.37 | debianN00b | It can't find the header file but i installed the header file |
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| 14:27.49 | somiaj | juken: lines 26-28 seems to be your issue. Seems you have either conflicting init scripts or the init script you have doens't have proper LSBHeaders |
| 14:28.02 | somiaj | debianN00b: what do you mean by header file? |
| 14:28.19 | debianN00b | somiaj, kernel header |
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| 14:28.43 | debianN00b | it is asking me for the location of the linux-header |
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| 14:29.25 | somiaj | debianN00b: what linux-headers package did you install? |
| 14:29.29 | debianN00b | "kernel header for version 3.2.0-4 were not found" somiaj |
| 14:29.49 | somiaj | debianN00b: did you install the linux-headers-`uname -r` package? |
| 14:29.59 | debianN00b | yes |
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| 14:30.23 | somiaj | debianN00b: what package is giving you that error? What version of debian? |
| 14:30.45 | debianN00b | somiaj, wheezy 7 |
| 14:31.05 | somiaj | debianN00b: what is the output of 'dpkg -l | grep linux' |
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| 14:31.28 | debianN00b | ii linux-headers-3.2.0-4-amd64 3.2.39-2 amd64 Header files for Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 14:31.40 | debianN00b | i linux-headers-3.2.0-4-common 3.2.39-2 amd64 Common header files for Linux 3.2.0-4 |
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| 14:32.12 | Iridos | ...or what command gives you that error... doing what |
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| 14:32.37 | somiaj | debianN00b: is that the full output? you should have linux-image in there to (also use paste.debian.net). does uname -v agree with the 3.2.39-2 version? |
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| 14:33.24 | debianN00b | somiaj, uname -v #1 SMP Debian 3.2.35-2 |
| 14:33.34 | Iridos | judd, versions virtualbox |
| 14:33.36 | judd | Package: virtualbox on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 4.0.10-dfsg-1~bpo60+1; sid: 4.1.18-dfsg-2; wheezy: 4.1.18-dfsg-2; experimental: 4.1.18-dfsg-2.1 |
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| 14:34.14 | somiaj | debianN00b: looks like you recentally did an upgrade, you are running on kernel 3.2.35-2 yet the version installed is 3.2.39-2 -- maybe you should reboot |
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| 14:35.02 | somiaj | but make sure the linux-image version you have agrees with your linux-headers version |
| 14:35.08 | debianN00b | somiaj, i did fresh install and erasing Ubuntu completely |
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| 14:35.12 | somiaj | you may want to upgrade before you do that |
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| 14:35.35 | somiaj | well you are running on kernel 3.2.35 (which was the old wheezy version as of a week or so) but it has recentally chagned to 3.2.39 |
| 14:35.37 | debianN00b | the same problem i am having http://askubuntu.com/questions/40979/what-is-the-path-to-the-kernel-headers-so-i-can-install-vmware |
| 14:35.41 | somiaj | thus your headers and kernel version do not agree |
| 14:35.53 | somiaj | dpkg -l | grep linux-image -- what is the output of that? |
| 14:35.53 | dpkg | No packages found matching | grep linux-image -- what is the output of that |
| 14:36.11 | jelly | teehee. |
| 14:37.16 | saki` | jelly, do you know a windows based ISO to persistent live usb tool? |
| 14:37.18 | debianN00b | somiaj, i don't know why... Because i did fresh installation..... Also Laptop getting hot quickly |
| 14:37.33 | jelly | saki`: nope |
| 14:37.35 | debianN00b | fan also noising |
| 14:38.02 | somiaj | debianN00b: it is because wheezy is still not completely frozen, The install image was just slightly out of date, do a full upgrade and reboot |
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| 14:39.00 | debianN00b | full upgrade? |
| 14:39.04 | debianN00b | apt-get upgrade? |
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| 14:40.40 | debianN00b | ah only 80MB need to download :) |
| 14:40.44 | debianN00b | doing it now :) |
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| 14:42.03 | debianN00b | somiaj, Is there any way taking full backup of my system so that i can install debian without net? |
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| 14:43.17 | debianN00b | Is wheezy now multi-arch support? |
| 14:43.21 | juken | How would I go about installing the kernel headers for 3.7-trunk-amd64? |
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| 14:43.28 | norok2 | hi |
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| 14:43.49 | saram | Hi, i've got problems with mplayer's libs it says that to me http://paste.debian.net/241909/ |
| 14:44.00 | saram | i'm on stable squeeze |
| 14:44.29 | debianN00b | somiaj, !silent! |
| 14:44.47 | somiaj | juken: that version really isn't in debian any more, I think 3.8 is now in experimential and 3.2 is in wheezy/sid |
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| 14:45.12 | somiaj | juken: I'm not sure if snapshot.debian.org has experiemntial packages, you may just have to chagne to 3.8 |
| 14:45.27 | juken | somiaj: is there an easy way to upgrade? |
| 14:45.44 | somiaj | debianN00b: all packages that you downloaded are stored in /var/cache/apt/archives (But this won't include stuff from the installer) |
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| 14:46.06 | somiaj | debianN00b: so you could make a backup of that dir, copy it over to the new system and not have to redownload thepackages. You can also just make a backup of the filesystem |
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| 14:46.32 | somiaj | juken: if you are running experimential packages, you shouldnt have to ask. By default experimential is pinned low so you have ot manually say to install them again with apt-get -t experimential foo |
| 14:46.39 | somiaj | sorry apt-get -t experiminetial install foo |
| 14:46.54 | juken | somiaj: sounds good, thanks for the help :) |
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| 14:48.22 | debianN00b | somiaj, so no way getting full backup (remastersys like) and then making it ISO then reinstalling the system when i needed? |
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| 14:49.36 | as001 | Hello how can i check if my Debian squeeze server's openssl library has support for sha256 ? |
| 14:49.59 | somiaj | debianN00b: linux is just a filesystem |
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| 14:50.15 | somiaj | debianN00b: you can just make a rsync (or cp -a) copy of your whole file system (you'll want to do this from a live system) |
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| 14:50.39 | somiaj | debianN00b: then just copy that file system onto another disk, and make it bootable -- it isn't automatic, but it is a full backup |
| 14:52.03 | debianN00b | somiaj, mind telling me the full command to backup the filesystem please (I am new to debian) |
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| 14:52.35 | somiaj | debianN00b: you need to either remount your root file system elsewhere or boot on a live system |
| 14:52.41 | somiaj | debianN00b: then it is just copying files, that is it |
| 14:52.45 | ksk | debianN00b: http://wiki.debian.org/BackupAndRecovery |
| 14:52.51 | somiaj | cp -a src dest, or rsync -a src dest |
| 14:53.35 | somiaj | there are of course lots of ways to backup file systems. I am not to much of a fan of dd because I would rather backup the files (ass oposed to the whole filesystem and have to resize it to fit on a differnet disk) |
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| 14:53.53 | ompaul | debianN00b: that's the windows attitude - if your disk stays good then a second drive sitting in the machine - live CD when you are happy with your setup: dd is your friend dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb where a and b are variable in the sd world, and you then have a frozen image - you need a live cd to make this happen - ime it is better not to read random rubbish on the internet, and actually do things right and do a decent backup go lookup linux |
| 14:53.55 | ompaul | backup software and understand what a backup is |
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| 14:54.39 | ompaul | debianN00b: because you will find that your data is what you want - it takes up a lot less space and keeps you semi happy |
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| 14:54.58 | TheOnlyJoey | OhaOhai |
| 14:55.15 | somiaj | yea since you can always redownload the OS, backup the actual data. But there are lots of backup models, find one that fits your needs. |
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| 14:55.38 | TheOnlyJoey | it seems that xserver-xorg-input-joystick kills my system :P |
| 14:55.43 | ompaul | debianN00b: as somiaj says, learning what you have and what you actually want will serve you well |
| 14:56.39 | debianN00b | Well, i want is to make it iso(Debian installer) and then i ready to install when i burn the Iso to CD |
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| 14:57.27 | ompaul | debianN00b: after using this stuff for 20 years, that is exactly a bad idea, however you are free to do what you want |
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| 14:57.40 | moebe | debianN00b: most of the time, a backup of $HOME is enough, along with a script that installs your favorite packages. |
| 14:57.41 | babilen | > |
| 14:57.41 | babilen | > Best wishes, |
| 14:57.41 | babilen | > Ryan |
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| 14:57.45 | babilen | yay |
| 14:57.48 | penguin1 | hi |
| 14:57.50 | babilen | *sigh* |
| 14:58.05 | ompaul | debianN00b: and sadly I wrote in cobol before that about 11 years before that |
| 14:58.22 | penguin1 | What does the debian installer do before dpkg / apt can be used? |
| 14:58.29 | ompaul | notes to self - life is too short to admit you know cobol |
| 14:58.42 | penguin1 | How is that called? I thought, the package 'base-system' would do this setup by itself? |
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| 14:59.20 | debianN00b | I want to do it this because every time upgrading,installing package from net is real pain for me |
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| 14:59.52 | moebe | dpkg: tell penguin1 about debootstrap |
| 15:00.00 | ompaul | penguin1: here is all you want to know about the installer http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 15:01.12 | penguin1 | moebe: Does the normal Debian Installer also use debootstrap? |
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| 15:02.00 | Ristovski | babilen: hello, the fglrx driver doesnt work btw |
| 15:02.17 | Ristovski | changing "fglrx" to "radeon" works, so the driver is either missing or it cant find it |
| 15:02.46 | moebe | penguin1: it "does" but it uses cdebootstrap, which is smaller. |
| 15:02.48 | debianN00b | somiaj, Few minute to finish upgrading :) |
| 15:02.59 | debianN00b | i did apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 15:02.59 | ompaul | penguin1: http://d-i.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apas03.html you should really get stuck into those docs |
| 15:03.01 | penguin1 | moebe: what is the difference between cdebootstrap and debootstrap? |
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| 15:03.24 | penguin1 | moebe: so I can also use cdebootstrap which is smaller but can do the same? |
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| 15:03.39 | debianN00b | After upgrade hope my Laptop won't get hot and fan will stop nosing :) |
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| 15:04.11 | penguin1 | debianN00b: I also got a fan problem with a lenovo (was it, I think). |
| 15:04.34 | penguin1 | debianN00b: the fan was off and an external fan had to be added to the back of notebook |
| 15:04.41 | moebe | penguin1: my knowledge only goes that far. There is probably more information on the wiki and the c/debootstrap man pages. |
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| 15:05.15 | debianN00b | penguin1, I am using dell xps... It works fine with windows |
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| 15:05.40 | penguin1 | moebe: what teases me would be to boot from a linux kernel + launching debootstrap / cdebootstrap for installing a debian system. It would be much smaller than a full-blown debian installer + graphics + menu which is not needed. |
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| 15:05.56 | ompaul | !debootstrap |
| 15:05.57 | dpkg | debootstrap can create a basic Debian system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a <chroot>. It is key to installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux system, ask me about <install guide>. http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Installing_new_Debian_systems_with_debootstrap |
| 15:06.03 | ompaul | penguin1: be our guest |
| 15:06.09 | debianN00b | ah time to reboot |
| 15:06.17 | debianN00b | will back |
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| 15:12.51 | dokma | is there a way to make any window semi transparent in x window? |
| 15:13.48 | jelly | dokma: yes, if there's a compositing manager active |
| 15:13.50 | ompaul | dokma: that depends on your desktop environment |
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| 15:14.04 | ompaul | steps back and leaves it to jelly |
| 15:14.17 | dokma | jelly: hmmm... not sure if I run a compositing manager |
| 15:14.24 | dokma | how do I detect that? |
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| 15:14.37 | debianN00b | somiaj, it is still #1 SMP Debian 3.2.39-2 |
| 15:14.58 | ompaul | ,kernels |
| 15:14.59 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.8-trunk-686-pae (3.8.2-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.39-2); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.39-2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.35-2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze1); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-29) |
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| 15:15.20 | jelly | dokma: which DE and version are you using? |
| 15:15.33 | dokma | xfce4 on squeeze |
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| 15:16.12 | debianN00b | somiaj, should it not be change to 3.2.39-4? |
| 15:16.13 | jelly | dokma: open xfce settings manager, window manager tweaks, compositor tab, enable compositing |
| 15:17.06 | debianN00b | oh it chaged , previous one was 3.2.35 |
| 15:17.06 | dokma | just did that... |
| 15:17.14 | debianN00b | you are correct somiaj |
| 15:17.15 | dokma | do I need a reboot for this one* |
| 15:17.16 | dokma | ? |
| 15:17.21 | jelly | dokma: no. |
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| 15:17.42 | debianN00b | now please help me to install workstation |
| 15:17.43 | dokma | jelly: ok, so how do I tell it to make one specific window 50% opaque |
| 15:17.59 | debianN00b | it can't find linux-header ... perhaps different location |
| 15:18.19 | jelly | dokma: sorry, I don't remember how to proceed further with setting per-window details... ask in #xfce channel |
| 15:18.30 | dokma | jelly: thank you! |
| 15:18.36 | jelly | don't have it running at the moment |
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| 15:19.10 | penguin1 | ompaul: debootstrap doesn't need apt/dpkg? They implemented it twice? |
| 15:19.38 | ompaul | penguin1: it can't get beyond a point |
| 15:19.58 | jelly | penguin1: correct, it has to work on any linux distro |
| 15:20.01 | penguin1 | ompaul: they write it doesn't use dpkg/apt, how does it download / install all those necessary packages then |
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| 15:20.17 | penguin1 | jelly: really? What exactly does it do? Does it simply create a basic filesystem? |
| 15:20.37 | ompaul | penguin1: read the docs like I keep saying |
| 15:20.54 | jelly | penguin1: read the docs, I'm not feeling like rephrasing them |
| 15:21.12 | jelly | or simply give it a try |
| 15:21.14 | ompaul | penguin1: I've told you three times now - it's all there and you know it's easier than irc |
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| 15:23.12 | JordiGH | Huh, Emacs in sid is at version 45.0? |
| 15:23.16 | jelly | penguin1: however, debootstrap is not an installer; if you use it as such, there's a good number of manual steps to do besides running it to get a base debian system going |
| 15:23.23 | JordiGH | That's like... 22 versions ahead of 23.2 |
| 15:24.20 | jelly | JordiGH: read the package description and dependencies, it might clear things up a bit |
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| 15:24.58 | JordiGH | So the ridiculously high version is just to fool dpkg? |
| 15:25.13 | jelly | apparently |
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| 15:26.16 | ChrisH | I have an XServer issue and now I am unsure how to fix it. http://paste.debian.net/241930/ shows some details. This "/usr/bin/X" cannot be executed is from kdm start |
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| 15:27.19 | ompaul | ChrisH: which desktop do you want |
| 15:27.48 | ChrisH | KDE wheezy |
| 15:27.50 | babilen | ChrisH: Install xserver-xorg |
| 15:27.55 | blackmagic | yeah.. |
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| 15:27.59 | blackmagic | your missing that ;P |
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| 15:28.57 | debianN00b | Still vm workstation missing linux-header file , |
| 15:28.59 | ompaul | ChrisH: also apt-cache search kde-plasma |
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| 15:30.32 | ChrisH | ompaul,babilen http://paste.debian.net/241932/ updated |
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| 15:31.26 | babilen | ChrisH: You still have don't have xserver-xorg installed |
| 15:32.14 | ChrisH | babilen: you're right. Will do that soon :) |
| 15:32.14 | ompaul | ChrisH: real soon? ;-) |
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| 15:32.30 | ompaul | knows ChrisH of old I bet its happened already |
| 15:32.35 | ompaul | just finishing |
| 15:32.52 | debianN00b | Kernel header is located at /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-4-amd64/ |
| 15:33.00 | debianN00b | Actually what i need to show the vm worstation ? |
| 15:33.33 | babilen | debianN00b: Which vm workstation? |
| 15:33.54 | debianN00b | 9.0 |
| 15:33.58 | debianN00b | sorry 9.2 |
| 15:34.09 | debianN00b | the latest one i downloaded today |
| 15:34.15 | ompaul | debianN00b: which application - it can be provided by a lot of things |
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| 15:34.34 | babilen | debianN00b: I have the impression that you are referring to some software. My superiour crystal ball whispers "vmware" into my ears, but I am still not sure |
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| 15:35.00 | debianN00b | vmware workstation |
| 15:35.12 | babilen | dpkg: tell debianN00b about vmware |
| 15:35.36 | debianN00b | oh okay |
| 15:35.45 | babilen | debianN00b: We don't support that. Ask in the vmware channel or use something like kvm (with virt-manager) or virtualbox |
| 15:36.04 | debianN00b | Thanks, Just asking in case you have some experience about it |
| 15:36.10 | debianN00b | No problem :) |
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| 15:39.14 | ChrisH | ompaul,babilen kdm looks OK now, but what about that state? http://paste.debian.net/241937/ line 12 |
| 15:41.20 | babilen | ChrisH: Run "apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop" or "aptitude install" |
| 15:43.21 | debianN00b | Now i can't find the kdesu :( |
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| 15:47.37 | penguin1 | Is there a standard initramfs for a debian version or can the initramfs be changed by packages? |
| 15:47.46 | geggam | who in here is a good filesystem tuner ? |
| 15:47.57 | babilen | geggam: you? |
| 15:48.02 | geggam | ive been arguing with people so much im starting to doubt myself |
| 15:48.15 | geggam | i think the stupid is winning |
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| 15:48.31 | jhutchins_wk | Arguing on the internet. Are you surprized? |
| 15:48.36 | babilen | penguin1: the latter (think, for example, about switching form radeon to fglrx) |
| 15:48.39 | geggam | at work jhutchins_wk |
| 15:48.41 | babilen | *from |
| 15:48.50 | geggam | internet people arent that dumb :) |
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| 15:49.20 | geggam | so ...avg file size 8565 bytes.... |
| 15:49.38 | geggam | running out of inodes |
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| 15:49.56 | geggam | mkfs.ext4 -b 1024 -I 1024 /dev/sdc1 Should give me more inodes and optimize the use of space ... yes ? |
| 15:50.12 | geggam | default 4096 uses 3 per file ? |
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| 15:51.24 | ChrisH | ompaul,babilen seems to be fixed now. Will hand it back to my dauther for further testing. Thanks! X-Server is not my very friend |
| 15:51.37 | babilen | ChrisH: Wonderful :) |
| 15:51.50 | philipp__ | hey, i would like to configure a hand full of my programs running on my pc to use different network settings from the rest. How do i do that? |
| 15:51.53 | babilen | ChrisH: I hope she enjoys the working system |
| 15:52.05 | penguin1 | babilen: ah, so driver stuff is normally done in initramfs? |
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| 15:52.16 | babilen | penguin1: No, not necessarily. |
| 15:52.27 | penguin1 | babilen: but for radeon they do this |
| 15:52.43 | hyppias | I installed firefox on gnome. How can I get it to appear in the pull-down menu system? |
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| 15:53.16 | babilen | hyppias: Ask in #mozilla or #firefox -- Debian ships iceweasel and we support that. If you want a new iceweasel version see http://mozilla.debian.net |
| 15:53.36 | babilen | penguin1: Yes, it is (I guess) needed to be changed there for KMS |
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| 15:54.26 | babilen | penguin1: But people might make different changes to it. Installing firmware also influences it ... What is the actual background to your question? |
| 15:55.03 | ChrisH | babilen: yep... normally she does the admin stuff on her own. |
| 15:56.43 | philipp__ | hey, i would like to configure a hand full of my programs running on my pc to use different network settings from the rest. How do i do that? |
| 15:56.58 | penguin1 | babilen: KMS driver means, driver runs in kernel space and not in userspace, right? |
| 15:57.13 | penguin1 | babilen: I ask because I try to understand the booting |
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| 15:59.19 | babilen | dpkg: tell penguin1 -about kms |
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| 16:00.02 | penguin1 | ah |
| 16:00.22 | penguin1 | so this leads to faster switching between console / graphical mode, right? |
| 16:00.30 | babilen | philipp__: chroot, virtual machine, configure each application differently, set environment variables differently when you start them (e.g. http_proxy) ... |
| 16:00.34 | penguin1 | something like that flash in windows when a fullscreen program is started |
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| 16:01.28 | casey_ | I receive the following error when attempt to launch Audacity, audacity: error while loading shared libraries: libid3tag.so.0: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 |
| 16:01.35 | casey_ | How can I resolve this issue? |
| 16:02.52 | jhutchins_wk | casey_: WHich release, and which architecture? |
| 16:03.43 | casey_ | Ubuntu 12.10 - 64bit |
| 16:03.48 | babilen | heh |
| 16:03.55 | philipp__ | bablien you lost me... virtal machiene? i just want to set the network configuration for some programs individually... |
| 16:04.01 | babilen | casey_: Please ask in #ubuntu -- This is #debian and we only support Debian. |
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| 16:04.44 | jhutchins_wk | casey_: My guess would be 32 vs 64, but you'll have to ask them how to solve it. |
| 16:04.55 | babilen | philipp__: I simply enumerated some possibilities ... Maye you might want to tell us what you really want to do. (as in: which applications and which settings) |
| 16:05.33 | jhutchins_wk | philipp__: How would the network settings be different, and what are you trying to achieve? |
| 16:06.16 | babilen | bbl |
| 16:06.34 | philipp__ | babilen: im concerned about privacy. I like to set some programs using my vpn tunnel (for example streams, torrent etc) while things like Intsand messenger should use my normal ip |
| 16:07.10 | philipp__ | you can follow me? |
| 16:07.24 | babilen | (no, as I am about to leave) |
| 16:07.35 | philipp__ | ... |
| 16:07.39 | somiaj | debianN00b: it changed it was 3.2.35-2 it is now 3.2.39-2 -- which is what it should be |
| 16:07.44 | jhutchins_wk | philipp__: You'll need to look at the documentation for the specific individual programs and see how to set them to choose a particular interface. |
| 16:08.24 | philipp__ | jhutchins_wk: not all have... someone recommended me tsocks for that... |
| 16:08.46 | debianN00b | somiaj, it is okay.... Fan now okay, seems not getting my laptop hot so much |
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| 16:09.15 | jhutchins_wk | philipp__: I believe I've seen network settings in at least one bittorrent client, so the option might be to just choose a client where you can set the interface. |
| 16:09.18 | philipp__ | if i use the instand messenger through the same vpn tunnel then my torrent client i feel like its compromising privacy |
| 16:09.23 | ompaul | debianN00b: how can you complain about debian and your fan when it is running in a vm? please explain this? |
| 16:09.26 | jhutchins_wk | philipp__: Instant. |
| 16:10.39 | debianN00b | ompaul, everything fine now? Now i can't install firefox |
| 16:10.49 | ompaul | debianN00b: how can you complain about debian and your fan when it is running in a vm? please explain this? |
| 16:11.00 | jhutchins_wk | philipp__: You should probably learn some more about what you think "privacy" means. |
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| 16:11.15 | debianN00b | ompaul, I am not complaining anything ... |
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| 16:11.55 | philipp__ | jhutchins_wk: of course i can do that but what i am looking for is some program where i can set network settings for all programs individually |
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| 16:13.11 | ompaul | debianN00b: please note you can install iceweasel but you seem to have done this a fair bit - made your life as hard as possible instead of as easy as possible from what I can see here on planet irc - lots of doing things in ways that cause you personally to lose a lot of time I suggest you read some docs - time it takes me with virtual box on windows to do an install and have a working X system on a laptop using the netinstall and then to customise it |
| 16:13.12 | ompaul | and have it reasonably functional about 2 hours |
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| 16:14.07 | ompaul | debianN00b: for my own machines I only ever install straight to the metal I don't run windows for myself |
| 16:14.11 | jpinx | why so slow ompaul ? |
| 16:14.23 | ompaul | jpinx: I've only got a 20meg line |
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| 16:14.39 | ompaul | jpinx: and I like BIG desktops and lots of apps / compilers |
| 16:14.46 | jpinx | ah - you include the download time |
| 16:14.52 | ompaul | jpinx: of course |
| 16:15.04 | ompaul | jpinx: start to finish new machine to working 2 hours |
| 16:15.22 | jpinx | installing from local cd1 taks about ten minutes ;) |
| 16:15.35 | ChrisH | ompaul: time to setup apt-cacher-ng to speed up things :) |
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| 16:16.11 | ompaul | task sel ssh and kde and away with me |
| 16:16.29 | jpinx | debianN00b: I didn't read your original comments, but really you are recommended to do the install according to the debian instructions |
| 16:16.39 | babilen | debianN00b: http://mozilla.debian.net (don't use firefox, you neither need nor want it) |
| 16:16.49 | ompaul | then I spend a bit of time downloading the net install kvm / qemu stuff and building my portable breakable test server |
| 16:17.06 | ompaul | jpinx: it's all in there |
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| 16:24.46 | ddvlad | hello, is running anacron typical for a server? i have anacron on my VPS (don't recall having installed it, it was probably in the initial image) |
| 16:25.10 | blackmagic | yeah |
| 16:25.19 | ddvlad | and cron.daily has no effect because the crontab line reads something like 'test -x /usr/bin/anacron || run-parts cron.daily' |
| 16:25.48 | somiaj | ddvlad: aptitude why anacron (if your courious what depends on it). |
| 16:25.52 | ddvlad | so -- the real question is, what's the sane way to get cron,.daily scripts to actually run daily? |
| 16:25.55 | blubberdiblub | ddvlad, anacron is not typical for a server that's running 24/7 |
| 16:26.08 | somiaj | ddvlad: it is only an optional package, so depending on what you installed it dosen't have to be installed by default. |
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| 16:26.40 | ddvlad | ok, it says logrotate depends on cron|anacron|fcron |
| 16:26.50 | blubberdiblub | ddvlad, the daily scripts should run daily anyway, just at a different time of day |
| 16:26.54 | debianN00b | babilen, okay. your-mirror mean my place like deb http://us.debian.org/debian experimental main ? |
| 16:27.03 | ddvlad | since i already have cron, and my machine is running 24/7 (well, almost), it should be safe to remove anacron, right? |
| 16:27.08 | blubberdiblub | ddvlad, | means or. you can remove anacron, cron is sufficient to fulfill the dependency |
| 16:27.15 | ddvlad | blubberdiblub: for some reason, they are not |
| 16:27.28 | ddvlad | i want to see if removing anacron will do the trick :) |
| 16:27.33 | somiaj | yea you must have done something to install anacron, maybe it came in with some task you selected at the start. |
| 16:27.45 | blackmagic | yes you can remove it if you'd like, but if it we're me i'd service anacron stop; update-rc.d anacron remove |
| 16:28.52 | ddvlad | somiaj: you're probably right :) |
| 16:29.03 | somiaj | blackmagic: you probablay mean 'update-rc.d anacron disable' |
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| 16:29.15 | somiaj | blackmagic: remove will be put back if that package is every upgraded for any reason |
| 16:29.23 | somiaj | s/package/service/ |
| 16:29.27 | blackmagic | yes, disable..sorry |
| 16:29.36 | blackmagic | i chmod -x for disabling lol. |
| 16:29.45 | debianN00b | deb http://your-mirror.debian.org/debian experimental main : is not working ? |
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| 16:30.38 | babilen | debianN00b: You, naturally, have to replace "your-mirror" in there with your actual mirror. (e.g. http.debian.net) |
| 16:30.57 | blubberdiblub | blackmagic, disabling anacron instead of removing the package is bad advise. the tests in /etc/crontab will still yield true, since the executable is still there and neither cron nor anacron will run the daily/weekly/monthly tasks |
| 16:31.28 | somiaj | debianN00b: I would not be trying to use experimental packages with your current level of debian experience. |
| 16:31.46 | babilen | seconded |
| 16:32.04 | somiaj | espcally on a wheezy system, since some there have a slight difference between sid and wheezy. Icewealse from experimential is not installable in wheezy in it's current state for example. |
| 16:32.16 | babilen | debianN00b: Why don't you install and use the 10 ESR release in wheezy and wait until 19 hits backports after the release? |
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| 16:32.55 | babilen | Well, with mozillas release "schedule" these days they probably have released iceweasel 28 by June :) |
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| 16:33.37 | babilen | I really strongly dislike that change as everybody who is maybe half a minor version behind now thinks that (s)he is missing 5 major versions worth of development |
| 16:33.42 | somiaj | babilen: yea for some reason they decided to keep up with chromes version scheme, still don't know why |
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| 16:34.00 | debianN00b | somiaj, i am new to debian but still i want to try it .... Best Linux(Perhaps it will save my life !) |
| 16:34.06 | babilen | somiaj: Clearly Chrome 19 is better than Firefox 5 as 19 > 5 |
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| 16:34.29 | debianN00b | I just want to get some regular software updated |
| 16:35.14 | babilen | debianN00b: The 10 ESR release is quite recent ... But feel free to add "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free" and install iceweasel from there. I wouldn't necessarily recommend and I will also not help you to fix your system if you break it. |
| 16:35.30 | somiaj | debianN00b: in debian, stick with wheezy. That is doing things the debian way. Once wheezy is released, backports will start to be made to get common software of newer versions. m.d.n will provided backports of iceweasel once wheezy is stable. Just realize you are using a testing system still. |
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| 16:35.58 | babilen | debianN00b: Actually: Much better idea: Use "deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ experimental iceweasel-esr" and install the current ESR release from there. |
| 16:35.58 | somiaj | I belive there are two libaries you need to install form sid, but that is just bad advise. Stick with wheezy and wait, it will be worth it. |
| 16:36.31 | babilen | Or just use what comes with wheezy ... iceweasel will hit backports shortly after the release and you'll have a supported and well tested system |
| 16:36.51 | somiaj | babilen: is that really compiled against wheezy libs, m.d.n is still suggesting to use experemential in wheezy which I just think is horrible advise. |
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| 16:37.16 | debianN00b | well, What version of firefox debian currently using? |
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| 16:37.26 | babilen | somiaj: Yeah, I agree that it is horrible advice. But they don't offer "backports" for "currently frozen testing". |
| 16:37.28 | somiaj | debianN00b: you were just told that, 10esr is in wheezy |
| 16:37.54 | debianN00b | firefox version? |
| 16:38.01 | babilen | 10 |
| 16:38.06 | babilen | 10 ESR |
| 16:38.10 | debianN00b | oh |
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| 16:38.17 | babilen | debianN00b: How often do we have to repeat it? |
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| 16:38.48 | babilen | "apt-get install iceweasel" and you are done :) |
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| 16:38.58 | somiaj | yea iceweasle 19 from experimential is still not instalable on wheezy due to at least libnss3 being a version behind. And upgrading this to sid's version is bad bad juju |
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| 16:39.16 | debianN00b | babilen, Sorry, Some word are new to me really.... So perhaps just asking same question again and again if it is even already answered :( |
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| 16:40.36 | debianN00b | not going to install the experimental then .... As long as i can install some latest addones of firefox in current browser , |
| 16:41.02 | ompaul | debianN00b: we don't need to see the inner workings of your personal thoughts |
| 16:41.04 | babilen | Shouldn't be a problem (unless they are badly configured) |
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| 16:42.01 | paulbanks | guys you think building the latest anjuta stable release (3.6.1) is doable considering you need new versions of certain libraries etc ? newbie here |
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| 16:43.19 | babilen | ,v anjuta |
| 16:43.20 | judd | Package: anjuta on i386 -- lenny: 2:2.4.2-1+lenny1; squeeze: 2:2.32.0.0-5; sid: 2:3.4.3-1; wheezy: 2:3.4.3-1 |
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| 16:43.56 | babilen | paulbanks: It has certainly not been packaged - Are the build depdencies satisfied in whatever release you are planning to build for? |
| 16:44.07 | ompaul | paulbanks: it makes no real sense unless you 100% need some specific piece of it |
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| 16:45.31 | paulbanks | all versions from 3.4.x and below are officially unsupported according to the devs |
| 16:45.45 | debianN00b | ompaul, OS for computer usability |
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| 16:46.57 | ompaul | paulbanks: and they are in Debian and work here and will as things go forward, if there is a security issue debian packagers will fix it, - have you specific coding issue where you need a late breaking feature or some bug that really stops you from using the version you have |
| 16:47.50 | ompaul | paulbanks: being in sync with upstream is not what debian does - it is a distro where it relies on tens of thousands of things to walk forward in a way they don't break each other |
| 16:48.26 | ompaul | paulbanks: so unless you have a 100% need I wouldn't even go near the idea of building your own until you are a bit more comfortable with debian |
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| 16:49.37 | hyppias | i get the message "volume 'filesystem root' has only 7.0 MB disk space remaining". can I still enlarge that space? |
| 16:49.39 | ompaul | paulbanks: see what happens when you say n00b ... scares old guys like me when I think you have a reasonable box and now you are going to put bandaids here and bandages there and rework a bit of plumbing and then wonder where the great tens of thousands of things in step went if you get my drift |
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| 16:51.02 | ompaul | hyppias: is this during an install or post install in production with or without lvm (I'm not going to answer but those who love lvm would like to know) (everything is possible but backups are essential) also paste in paste.debian.net the output of df -h |
| 16:53.14 | debianN00b | "service networking start" deprecated ? |
| 16:53.54 | ompaul | debianN00b: go read some docs (please) |
| 16:54.12 | debianN00b | okay |
| 16:54.17 | debianN00b | will not ask question |
| 16:54.23 | hyppias | ompaul: I am currently installing squeeze on a 1 TB disk. using default partitioning ( different partitions for / , home etcetera. |
| 16:54.40 | hyppias | lvm.. without, I think ???? |
| 16:54.48 | ompaul | then start again |
| 16:55.27 | ompaul | 1TB should be handy to get it right - when you want to do different partitions if you do lvm 400 megs on 1tb you can go play with the resize stuff after |
| 16:55.52 | ompaul | hyppias: stick it all in one slice or two to start with /boot and / |
| 16:55.53 | hyppias | root dir is only 323 MB.... |
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| 16:56.13 | ompaul | sorry I meant gigs |
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| 16:56.46 | hyppias | strange to make / omy 323MB....why not a few gig... |
| 16:56.56 | ompaul | hyppias: no idea wasn't there wasn't me |
| 16:57.02 | hyppias | :) |
| 16:57.29 | hyppias | LVM is a good idea? |
| 16:57.53 | Towzzer | most of the time but if you aren't going expand or whatnots |
| 16:58.00 | Towzzer | it adds an extra layer of complexit |
| 16:58.01 | Towzzer | y |
| 16:58.24 | ChrisH | LVM is allways a good idea... as sometime you will use/need/want it |
| 16:58.41 | hyppias | I wanted different partitions to save the /homne, when having to reinstall.... and now.... pfffff |
| 16:58.46 | ompaul | hyppias: I tend toward 5 gpt 5 gigs free at front of disk and then do the smart stuff later - I can't see a problem with it you get your machine set up you get yourself flexible space but if you know this about 50G-100G for a base system then the rest of /home and something for swap at the end of the drive all good too you know |
| 16:58.47 | somiaj | I disagree, LVM can be an extra layer you do not need. It is a good idea in some cases but not all. (: |
| 16:58.49 | ompaul | easier to back up |
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| 16:59.25 | ompaul | hyppias: there is a simple thing called use case that's really where it's all at |
| 16:59.34 | ompaul | know your use case and you know your settings |
| 16:59.58 | hyppias | I know my use case in a few months....:( |
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| 17:00.15 | hyppias | this is the use case I will know then |
| 17:00.43 | ChrisH | It might an good idea to setup several VGs... vg00 for the OS and vgData forthe data to keep during an upgrade |
| 17:01.20 | hyppias | so, anyway: here we go again. thnx so far |
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| 17:05.44 | jelly | somiaj: however, if your needs change and you need its features later, you have to wipe the whole storage system and redo from scratch |
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| 17:25.54 | DiKKy | hi is this where all the hippies are at |
| 17:26.01 | bazhang | no |
| 17:26.23 | DiKKy | do i have the wrong address? did i type the chat incorrectly? is this not #debian |
| 17:26.41 | bazhang | did you have an actual support question |
| 17:27.22 | DiKKy | yes, i have now used debian for several weeks and i am wondering if i ever need to shave again? |
| 17:27.39 | Uranio | find a army boot and put in the bazhang's right foot |
| 17:27.46 | Uranio | ready... |
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| 17:31.24 | DiKKy | Before i installed debian i showered maybe once a day and brushed my teeth regularly, i cared about my looks and wore clean clothes and brushed my teeth |
| 17:31.59 | DiKKy | sometimes i talked to other people and occasionally i got my dick sucked by other dudes |
| 17:32.04 | DiKKy | now my life has changed |
| 17:32.10 | bazhang | DiKKy, chat in #debian-offtopic |
| 17:32.15 | DiKKy | after i installed debian i am getting so much more pole-polish |
| 17:32.23 | jbroome | DiKKy: not really the point of this channel |
| 17:32.25 | sacredchao | The internal mic on my laptop is not picking up any audio, even when the sliders in alsamixer are at max |
| 17:32.27 | DiKKy | however, i am not having do deal with all the hygine |
| 17:32.27 | larico | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:32.32 | DiKKy | no more shaving or showering |
| 17:32.49 | DiKKy | no need, i can just hack along my codes instead |
| 17:32.49 | DiKKy | and my life is complete |
| 17:32.51 | Uranio | DiKKy: and when you brains get vanished? |
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| 17:33.10 | Uranio | how many days after use debian? |
| 17:33.42 | Uranio | sacredchao sayd: The internal mic on my laptop is not picking up any audio, even when the sliders in alsamixer are at max |
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| 17:34.27 | food | yes hello |
| 17:34.33 | DiKKy | jbroome: i was under the impression i could meet other african-american homosexuals with a common interested for 'coding' in this here fine chat |
| 17:34.36 | DiKKy | was i mistaken? |
| 17:34.41 | Uranio | sacredchao sayd: The internal mic on my laptop is not picking up any audio, even when the sliders in alsamixer are at max |
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| 17:35.30 | jbroome | looks like you were mistaken. |
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| 17:35.52 | food | i recently installed the latest debian distribution |
| 17:35.58 | food | and i am wondering that now that i have |
| 17:36.04 | sacredchao | Steve Balmer just left |
| 17:36.04 | food | do i have to continue using deodorant also? |
| 17:36.11 | korhojoa | hahahahaha |
| 17:36.11 | food | or will it take care of most odor problems automatically? |
| 17:36.23 | food | i'm assuming it's mostly a background process in this release |
| 17:36.44 | korhojoa | this is glorious. best laughs of the day. thanks guys. |
| 17:37.00 | Uranio | sacredchao sayd: The internal mic on my laptop is not picking up any audio, even when the sliders in alsamixer are at max |
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| 17:37.16 | babilen | Uranio, food: Drop it. |
| 17:37.24 | food | i would also like to note for the community, in case anybody else has experienced this |
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| 17:37.37 | food | ever since i installed debian i started sitting on my bidet instead of drinking from it |
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| 17:37.47 | korhojoa | :'D |
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| 17:37.56 | babilen | korhojoa: move on |
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| 17:38.53 | foo | I am using dropbox linux client. I added my user to www-data group. I logged out/in. I restarted dropbox. And dropbox still doesn't sync up some files. Any idea why? Hmm. |
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| 17:39.38 | jbroome | foo: you're using dropbox for website replication? |
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| 17:40.34 | Uranio | thanks... |
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| 17:44.58 | link15 | hey all, can i override a generated package name during a debuild command? |
| 17:45.07 | foo | jbroome: nah, just backup. |
| 17:45.12 | link15 | sl if its normally python-libraryname |
| 17:45.14 | link15 | i want to make it |
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| 17:45.19 | link15 | python-libraryname-staging |
| 17:45.33 | link15 | but i want to do it without editing the control / changelog etc |
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| 17:45.57 | link15 | and be able to install it via referencing python-libraryname |
| 17:45.59 | link15 | er |
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| 17:46.06 | link15 | python-libraryname-staging |
| 17:46.09 | link15 | when i apt-get |
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| 17:52.36 | Uranio | foo: you should try http://www.andreafabrizi.it/?dropbox_uploader |
| 17:52.56 | Uranio | very well for upload backups |
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| 17:53.35 | foo | Uranio: interesting, I am just using the official dropbox daemon. Why use this? Hmm. |
| 17:53.44 | Uranio | zip -r Notes_zim.zip Notes/ && dropbox.sh upload Notes_zim.zip |
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| 17:53.52 | Uranio | in the cron |
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| 17:54.20 | Uranio | foo: :D congratulations I'm in the 5t0 hells, Dropbox is not allowed for Cuba |
| 17:54.32 | foo | Uranio: ohh! I didn't even think about that. |
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| 17:55.14 | Uranio | and why run a daemon for just ulpoad a thing each... lets mean each 1 day |
| 17:55.16 | jbroome | Or you know, just rsync your stuff into the Dropbox dir |
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| 18:01.54 | dizzylizzy | jigdo is amazing software |
| 18:02.59 | penguin1 | I got a problem with debian installer + apt-cacher-ng |
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| 18:03.21 | penguin1 | I set the ip address of apt-cacher-ng server as mirror |
| 18:03.27 | penguin1 | but I get a corrupted mirror error |
| 18:03.55 | penguin1 | apt on other machines can update / upgrade over apt-cacher-ng. But the debian installer doesn't like it. |
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| 18:04.29 | dizzylizzy | it *might* be the tipping point for me, that piece of currently undeveloped software that leads me to learn enough programming to help a project |
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| 18:06.48 | dizzylizzy | sorry nvm |
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| 18:19.15 | sk1pper | hi all, I want to try/install debian (server) on a VM, which cd or dvd should i download? what are the differences between cd1 cd2 etc |
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| 18:19.57 | debiuser | "lib/module/3.7-trunk-686-pae/build/include/linux/version.h" file is missing although i have linux headers installed |
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| 18:20.22 | AimHere | The first DVD contains the core system and the most-used Apps, the succeeding ones use the less popular apps in rough order of unpopularity |
| 18:20.22 | debiuser | error occurs when i'm trying to install "amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64" |
| 18:20.27 | MaxLanar | sk1pper: you need the first one |
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| 18:20.40 | AimHere | You could just take the first one (or even the netinstall) and install most of your debian from the net |
| 18:21.16 | sk1pper | so the netinstall contains all the necessary for the debian server to run? |
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| 18:21.29 | jbroome | it will pull them from the 'net. |
| 18:21.37 | AimHere | It contains enough to pull what you need from the net |
| 18:21.46 | debiuser | file: /lib/modules/3.7-trunk-686-pae/build/include/linux/version.h [Error] Kernel Module : Failed to compile kernel module - please consult readme. |
| 18:21.49 | sk1pper | okay thanks guys :) |
| 18:21.51 | jbroome | you get a base, tiny install then apt-get what you want. |
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| 18:21.57 | AimHere | There is a very rudimentary runnable debian system with the netinstall |
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| 18:22.05 | debiuser | can anyone help me with this error? |
| 18:22.16 | sk1pper | i will give it a try with the netinstall then! |
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| 18:26.13 | penguin1 | anyone? |
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| 18:27.32 | krabador | please excuse me for offtopic, but i don't find any help about my issue: i've that http://paste.ubuntu.com/5616313/ , on ubuntu 12.10 , no sound |
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| 18:28.04 | Seekanet | krabador; i know this one! join #ubuntu |
| 18:28.08 | jbroome | krabador: uuuh. |
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| 18:29.35 | krabador | Seekanet, yes i really understand, but in the last 2 days nobody responses me, if not for "have you plug the jack in the right hole" |
| 18:29.48 | jbroome | krabador: that's more than you're going to get here |
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| 18:30.41 | Seekanet | krabador try asking again in there. trust me |
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| 18:32.06 | jelly-home | krabador: alternatively, try the generic ##linux channel |
| 18:33.03 | krabador | jelly-home, yes i tried there too |
| 18:33.41 | krabador | if i'm here, it's because on #alsa #pulseaudio #ubuntu #linux nobody responses me |
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| 18:33.57 | jhutchins_wk | krabador: Things work differently in Ubuntu. What would fix Debian could very well break your system. |
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| 18:34.14 | krabador | jhutchins_wk, ok |
| 18:34.21 | jhutchins_wk | krabador: That's like taking your ford to the mercades dealer because the ford dealer's not open. |
| 18:35.26 | jbroome | krabador: well with that logic go ask ##windows |
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| 18:36.26 | haylo | Could someone give me a proper syntax example for the debootstrap option --make-tarball , or links to any guides that focus on using this option ? |
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| 18:37.01 | krabador | jbroome, with that logic i only asked , later #ubuntu, in places where find alsa/pulseaudio expert, maybe outside the pure os, or #alsa #pulseaudio channel |
| 18:37.08 | haylo | After it is completed it deletes the directories it made, and I can not find the tar ball |
| 18:37.15 | krabador | thanx the same |
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| 18:38.07 | psichas | i found gnome-pty-helper process running in my system, how i could remove this? my all gnome's libraries is deleted i'm not using gnome |
| 18:38.30 | haylo | psichas: make a minimal install if you dont want gnome |
| 18:38.44 | psichas | hey i installed minimal |
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| 18:38.52 | psichas | i'm using blackbox |
| 18:39.16 | haylo | um ok. why not dwm , twm or openbox but its all good |
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| 18:40.30 | haylo | sounds like you installed some library rich program like gedit, thunar or nautilus , and it drew that stuff is |
| 18:40.34 | psichas | nwm... i just want delete gnome pty helper i can choose myself witch one is best for me |
| 18:40.35 | haylo | in * |
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| 18:43.17 | psichas | intresting ... |
| 18:43.20 | typoclass | jbroome, jhutchins_wk: why are you bullying the guy? ubuntu is a debian-based distro, so it's not really the right place, but it's not totally off-topic either. what jhutchins said would only be true if all that ford did was buying mercedeses, then bolting some stuff on top, and selling them |
| 18:43.50 | jbroome | I thought the debian/ubuntu support line was pretty well defined |
| 18:43.58 | jbroome | if that has changed, then i'm sorry |
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| 18:45.55 | haylo | typoclass: it is offtopic |
| 18:46.32 | jacobw | ##linux is not helpful |
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| 18:47.03 | Vicissitude | perhaps #ubuntu would be moreso |
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| 18:47.11 | jacobw | Debian and Ubuntu share components, IMO it's not unreasonable to ask about a shared component in #debian or #ubuntu |
| 18:47.15 | haylo | in fact ubuntu is a mess. You can make distros from debian, but you have to really know what the fuck you are doing. And watch all the time. Ubuntu hardly does this. If they confrmed to debians policies, perhaps it would be slightly more ontopic |
| 18:47.33 | Chelsea | I've added a share to /etc/fstab, have the user member of fuse, mountpoint is made by user, yet when the user wants to mount, is still says only root can mount. What am i forgetting/doing wrong? |
| 18:47.34 | haylo | they dropped command line support as of ubuntu 13 |
| 18:47.46 | jacobw | haylo: what? |
| 18:48.05 | jbroome | wait what? |
| 18:48.09 | haylo | I used to go ther eand get all sorts of advice on technical issues. but they have changed. so change with them, and demand a different level of support from the distro you use |
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| 18:48.43 | haylo | they also dont let users onto #ubuntu-live which is atrocious |
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| 18:49.31 | moebe | jacobw: it's unreasonable if you are not using Debian. |
| 18:49.42 | haylo | there installers are so numerous, that if you test them all.. you will see that 7/10 of them are in broken states. in fact it is a waste of time to use as an advanced user |
| 18:49.53 | jacobw | To start at the very beginning, which policies does Ubuntu not follow and what do you mean by 'they dropped command line support'? |
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| 18:51.19 | moebe | jacobw: we don't know what's different between both (versions, patches, interactions between other programs) and we aren't running it, therefore... how can we support it? |
| 18:51.24 | jacobw | moebe: So if your using dpkg version X on Ubuntu you can't ask about it here? |
| 18:51.42 | haylo | Well for one. debian explicitly states that you are not to imply unethical behaviour from entities not ewilling to donate money. There new website does just this, it gives some skull and cross bone face when you download but dont donate. and its misleading. and THAT is only the tip of the iceberg |
| 18:52.04 | haylo | no you cant talk about it here. in fact PLease dont. it offends me, as a debian user |
| 18:52.31 | jacobw | Why not? |
| 18:52.48 | jbroome | there is #debian-offtopic if you'd like to hash all this out |
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| 18:53.01 | haylo | does anyone have any guides for the debootstrap option --make-tarball ? |
| 18:53.11 | rww | dpkg: based on debian |
| 18:53.12 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 18:53.29 | jbroome | Ahh there it is |
| 18:53.38 | rww | (that is "why not") |
| 18:53.41 | jacobw | moebe: I agree, but the behaviour diverges at a level below what most users are asking about |
| 18:54.34 | moebe | jacobw: see above (or #debian-offtopic for further discussion). |
| 18:55.01 | babilen | jacobw: That is not important - #debian only supports pure Debian (and their users) for a number of technical and social reasons. Take it to #debian-offtopic if you want to discuss this further. |
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| 18:55.31 | jacobw | I don't want to discuss it further |
| 18:56.11 | petn-randall | My laptop will hibernate fine, but on resume it reads the image from the swap partition partition, and stalls after that. Any hints how to further debug the problem? |
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| 18:57.31 | petn-randall | I compiled linux kernel v3.8.2, the problem still persists there. |
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| 18:58.54 | haylo | you know the experimental repo, has a kernel about that up to date. you can just apt-get install petn-randall ? |
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| 18:59.17 | haylo | it is on 3.8 something at this point if I am not mistaken |
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| 18:59.54 | vt0r | Yeah it's actually on either 3.8.2 or 3.8.3 (latest) |
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| 19:00.42 | vt0r | petn-randall: is your swap partition encrypted or on some strange RAID setup by any chance? |
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| 19:03.09 | petn-randall | vt0r: I have a single LUKS encrypted GPT partition, and LVM on top of that. My swap is a LV. |
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| 19:04.29 | petn-randall | vt0r: I can see it reading the image correctly, but after that it just seems "stuck". It doesn't change the VT to X11, I can switch terminals with alt + left/right, but only the cursor disappears. |
| 19:05.39 | vt0r | I've seen quite a few issues resuming from swap with encrypted partitions. Honestly I'm not sure how to resolve them with a setup quite like yours. I can find some generic docs for plain dm-crypt/LUKS, but they may or may not help. One sec |
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| 19:11.49 | petan | hi |
| 19:11.53 | petan | some kernel guru? |
| 19:12.20 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | ask you question |
| 19:12.28 | petan | I get error when suspending that some driver prevent system from suspending, I would like to find out which driver it is |
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| 19:12.37 | petan | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE I was actually typing it :D |
| 19:12.44 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Oh |
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| 19:13.13 | petan | let me check the syslog to give you more |
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| 19:15.06 | petan | oh it's not driver |
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| 19:15.19 | petan | device 0000:03:00.0 failed to suspend |
| 19:18.06 | petan | mhm i found it |
| 19:18.10 | petan | alx driver |
| 19:18.18 | petn-randall | petan: lspci |
| 19:18.54 | petan | if I do modprobe -r alx everytime before suspend it will work :> |
| 19:18.59 | petan | but I will have to load it then |
| 19:19.04 | petan | becaue it's for my network card |
| 19:19.34 | petan | yes lspci tell me that it's ethernet controller |
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| 19:20.22 | petn-randall | petan: I think you can put the module on a list so it get's unloaded on suspend and reloaded on resume. |
| 19:20.35 | petan | oh |
| 19:20.42 | petan | where is it |
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| 19:21.31 | petn-randall | petan: I can't remember, man uswsusp.conf for starters |
| 19:21.38 | petan | k |
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| 19:23.50 | haylo | yeah maybe try putting that module in /etc/modules |
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| 19:24.07 | johnnyfive | hello, i have a very newb question about backtrack5 |
| 19:24.14 | petan | haylo but I need that module I just want to unload it on suspend |
| 19:24.24 | petn-randall | johnnyfive: this is #debian, not backtrack. |
| 19:24.28 | haylo | that ususally makes sure they are loaded and ready to go. |
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| 19:25.34 | petn-randall | petan: man pm-suspend |
| 19:25.55 | petn-randall | petan: The config parameter is called 'SUSPEND_MODULES' |
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| 19:26.31 | petan | ok |
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| 19:26.42 | haylo | johnnyfive: you dont want to use that distro. hackers will target you. Just look at what tools it uses and install them on debian or something |
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| 19:27.12 | haylo | apt-get install wireshark nmap and start monitoring packets and mapping networks |
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| 19:27.52 | haylo | and screw backtrack. what a joke of a distro. with its toor password on a live CD |
| 19:27.58 | johnnyfive | really? then i should use ubuntu or something? i liked backtrack because it was easy to make a live usb |
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| 19:28.06 | haylo | no you should use debian |
| 19:28.13 | petn-randall | haylo: Ugh, what? Please don't make shit up. |
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| 19:28.26 | petn-randall | haylo: How should 'hackers' target you for using a distro? |
| 19:28.30 | haylo | petn-randall: I have not |
| 19:29.09 | haylo | oh they do, you join #backtrack with no password, on a live CD with full sudo privs, and likley you ip not cloaked |
| 19:29.09 | petn-randall | haylo: Because it's 'broadcasting it's IP'? |
| 19:29.24 | haylo | thats not made up... thats a security breach that you are setting yourself up for |
| 19:29.34 | rww | johnnyfive: /join #backtrack-linux. Unlike most of the things they just said, the statement that we don't support it here is correct :) |
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| 19:29.56 | johnnyfive | yes sir |
| 19:30.00 | haylo | wtf, seriously it sucks, and yes you do get targetted on their irs |
| 19:30.05 | haylo | irc * |
| 19:30.10 | haylo | thats why no one uses it |
| 19:30.22 | abrotman | how is this related to #debian ? |
| 19:30.31 | abrotman | that's the end of the topic |
| 19:30.32 | haylo | a big part of security is knowing who you are dealing with |
| 19:30.51 | petn-randall | oh wow |
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| 19:31.52 | haylo | look at the freebsd docs, they will basically tell you that security is something you determine by what sorts of connections you make. If you have compromised yourself by hanging out with hoodlums... well then you are an idiot |
| 19:31.59 | johnnyfive | does debian support airmon-ng and such? |
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| 19:32.12 | abrotman | haylo: end means end .. you know that's offtopic |
| 19:32.16 | abrotman | take a timeout, relax |
| 19:32.20 | petan | yay i works |
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| 19:32.43 | petn-randall | johnnyfive: aircrack-ng is in sid. |
| 19:33.01 | dexta | evening |
| 19:33.01 | petn-randall | petan: nice! |
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| 19:34.11 | johnnyfive | sid? |
| 19:34.48 | petn-randall | johnnyfive: Debian unstable |
| 19:34.59 | johnnyfive | i see |
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| 19:40.14 | petan | well actually I prefer sid over stable, just because all these obsolete packages in stable |
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| 19:40.22 | petan | but I wouldn't put it on a sever |
| 19:40.26 | petan | server |
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| 19:59.20 | jhutchins_wk | petan: Packages in stable are not obsolete. They're mature, well tested, and well patched. They are not the same as the equivalent version upstream. |
| 19:59.37 | jhutchins_wk | petan: New for new's sake is how b0rken happens. |
| 19:59.44 | petan | well, that's cool for servers but for desktops... it's obsolete :P |
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| 20:00.14 | petan | running old version of browser etc... |
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| 20:00.31 | petan | not being able to compile a program you like because you have too old libraries for that |
| 20:00.43 | petan | and overwriting them with new break lot of existing sw you have |
| 20:00.49 | petan | that's what I mean |
| 20:01.05 | rww | What's changed between January 2012 that makes Firefox 10 "obsolete" now and cutting edge then? |
| 20:01.14 | rww | As far as I can tell, it still works perfectly fine. |
| 20:01.31 | petan | last time I was running stable, I had some firefox 2.1 |
| 20:01.32 | rww | s/between/since/ |
| 20:01.32 | petan | or that |
| 20:01.38 | petan | it's been some time though |
| 20:02.12 | rww | squeeze-backports has 10. wheezy is basically stable and has 10. The Debian folks who work on Mozilla stuff have a repository with stuff newer than 10 in it. |
| 20:02.19 | rww | None of these options require using sid. |
| 20:02.30 | nkuttler | !mdn |
| 20:02.32 | dpkg | The "Extended Support Release" version (10) of the Iceweasel web browser is in <squeeze-backports>. Newer Iceweasel and Icedove are at http://mozilla.debian.net/ for squeeze or in <experimental> for wheezy and sid. |
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| 20:03.04 | petan | yes but I am not talking about firefox only - I just like sid more because new stuff works there better, I know it can break, but that's the risk I accept :P |
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| 20:03.28 | rww | The only software I've had trouble with on Debian squeeze is Steam, and I can't get that bloody thing to work on Sid either. |
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| 20:06.25 | petn-randall | rww: I think it's just beta software atm, anyway. It broke the last time I tested it on Ubuntu, too. |
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| 20:35.28 | intgr | Hi, is there any way to get apt-get to ignore unmet dependencies when installing a package? I'm using the arm64 repository which seems to be broken at the moment. |
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| 20:36.06 | jbroome | well, the point of dependencies is that things depend on them |
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| 20:36.46 | intgr | Yeah, but I just need some library headers for cross-compiling, not for actuaul usage. |
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| 21:05.28 | n_np_ | how can i install libvirtd on squeeze? |
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| 21:12.11 | penguin1 | I got a problem with debian installer + apt-cacher-ng |
| 21:12.14 | penguin1 | I set the ip address of apt-cacher-ng server as mirror |
| 21:12.17 | penguin1 | but I get a corrupted mirror error |
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| 21:12.53 | penguin1 | d-i mirror/http/hostname string 192.168.133.130:3128 |
| 21:13.08 | n_np | guyz |
| 21:13.14 | n_np | i need libvirtd on squeeze |
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| 21:13.33 | n_np | how may i accomplish this? upgrading the dist is not an option. |
| 21:14.30 | mur_ | hey, does anyone has an up-to-date how-to guide on how to create an .img of a working debian wheezy that can be used as a headless server? |
| 21:15.00 | mur_ | and alternatively, can "lb" used to create that rather than a live cd? |
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| 21:17.07 | vicTROLLA | I rolled a package that has a pre-install script that apt-get installs a few things and also modifies debconf-set-selections. I'm getting an error E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) which makes sense. But I'm not sure how to accomplish what I'm doing and get around that. |
| 21:18.15 | jbroome | vicTROLLA: is there another apt instance running somewhere? |
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| 21:18.58 | hypnoso | n_np - Did you check backports? |
| 21:18.59 | vicTROLLA | jbroome, no. But I assume the error is related to me holding a lock open by running dpkg -i packagename.deb which then in turn runs apt-get |
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| 21:25.14 | mur_ | does anyone has an up-to-date how-to guide on how to create an .img of a debian wheezy that can be used as a headless server? |
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| 21:27.41 | seafax | is it important to create a swap partition when installing debian? |
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| 21:27.57 | rww | not particularly, assuming you have enough RAM that you don't need one |
| 21:28.37 | vicTROLLA | it's better to swap than crash |
| 21:28.49 | seafax | is 2gb ddr3 enough? |
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| 21:29.41 | ompaul | mur_: I used expert install of a file .img using qemu and that kind of thing and put in a few bits and pieces - now it's a simple virtual machine |
| 21:29.51 | jbroome | seafax: enough for what? running an amazon.com node? no. Farting around with linux at home, sure |
| 21:29.54 | ompaul | dear me |
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| 21:32.08 | n_np | hypnosa what is a backport? |
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| 21:33.00 | n_np | nvm |
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| 21:35.16 | {her|bert} | !bpo |
| 21:35.16 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
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| 21:39.06 | lxdelive | got a question about /proc/cpuinfo: is it ever wrong? I have OCed a C2D E6300 from 1.86 to 3.15. Linux shows the 3.15 at bootup just fine but cpuinfo only shows 2800 and never more. cant be speedstep either cause that would show up as 2700 (450 FSB) |
| 21:39.12 | rryoumaa | why does /query dpkg only work for one request |
| 21:39.59 | abrotman | rryoumaa: it doesn't ? |
| 21:39.59 | lxdelive | rryoumaa: works fine with /msg dpkg in irssi. in that window you can query dpkg all day |
| 21:40.09 | moebe | rryoumaa: It should work for multiple requests. Try "/msg dpkg message" instead of "/query". |
| 21:40.46 | rryoumaa | it is just slow. thanks. |
| 21:41.49 | lxdelive | and now when speedstep kicks in, it shows me 2400MHz (at multi 6) |
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| 21:42.07 | lxdelive | so it seems cpuinfo doesnt understand a FSB frequencz above 400MHz. is that normal? |
| 21:42.13 | n_np | libvirtd is not in backports |
| 21:42.23 | n_np | how can i run it? im pretty sure ive ran it b4 |
| 21:42.27 | n_np | do i have to isntall the rpm? |
| 21:42.38 | neirpyc | Hey guys, I want to give Debian a try on my Macbook Pro, but I'm not sure which version of the live CD to download... |
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| 21:43.05 | abrotman | neirpyc: you mean which architecture? |
| 21:43.10 | neirpyc | Yeah |
| 21:43.19 | abrotman | amd64 or i386 should both work |
| 21:43.33 | neirpyc | AH, okay. |
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| 21:44.34 | neirpyc | There are just so many ISO files that I wasn't sure |
| 21:45.02 | lxdelive | neirpyc: how new is this macbook? |
| 21:45.11 | lxdelive | ie what cpu/videocard |
| 21:45.19 | neirpyc | It's a Macbook Pro 7,1 |
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| 21:45.42 | neirpyc | 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo |
| 21:45.49 | jbroome | how much ram |
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| 21:46.00 | neirpyc | 4 GB |
| 21:46.03 | neirpyc | and NVIDIA GeForce 320M 256 MB |
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| 21:46.10 | jbroome | i'd go for 64 bi |
| 21:46.12 | lxdelive | then squeeze will be fine still. new ones often need wheezy for their hardware |
| 21:46.22 | neirpyc | Ah, alright |
| 21:46.35 | neirpyc | So, debian-6.0.7-amd64-CD-1.iso.torrent is fine? |
| 21:46.45 | rww | yep |
| 21:46.52 | neirpyc | Awesome, thanks a bunch! |
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| 21:47.30 | Rator | What happens when i dist-upgrade on the experimental repos? |
| 21:47.32 | abrotman | probably not the liveCD ? |
| 21:47.37 | abrotman | Rator: you can't |
| 21:47.47 | neirpyc | I've been reading it works way better out of the box than Ubuntu on this model MacBook so I wanted to give it a try. |
| 21:48.02 | Rator | abrotman: why i cant? |
| 21:48.14 | abrotman | Rator: it's not a complete distro |
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| 21:48.36 | petn-randall | neirpyc: You shouldn't be switching distros *solely* because something is closer to work out of the box. |
| 21:48.40 | somiaj | neirpyc: any reason why you want squeeze over wheezy. Wheezy is almost stable and has far newer software. |
| 21:48.50 | Rator | abrotman: but the dist-upgrade option works |
| 21:48.50 | n_np | whats the way to connect to a squeeze virtual host if there's no libvirtd ? :o |
| 21:49.07 | somiaj | neirpyc: and in many cases debian requires more configuration than ubuntu. |
| 21:49.10 | Rator | will it kill my dependencies |
| 21:49.10 | petn-randall | neirpyc: Time spent setting the system up is small compared to the time you'll spend using it :) |
| 21:49.11 | Rator | ? |
| 21:49.12 | abrotman | Rator: you cannot run experimental as a complete distro .. it replaces parts of whatever you're currently using |
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| 21:49.23 | neirpyc | petn-randall: I can't get the graphics card to function correctly for my life in Ubuntu. I've spent weeks trying with no luck. |
| 21:49.23 | abrotman | Rator: and things may or may not work after you do that |
| 21:49.24 | jbroome | n_np: ssh? :) |
| 21:49.30 | n_np | abrotman: whats the way to connect to a squeeze virtual host if there's no libvirtd ? :o |
| 21:49.41 | abrotman | n_np: ssh? :) |
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| 21:49.48 | Rator | abrotman: so its just a normal update to some of my software? |
| 21:49.49 | n_np | jbroome i cant shh into a windows ghuest :o |
| 21:50.08 | neirpyc | somiaj: No, I didn't know there was a newer version, honestly. I just hit the download button on the homepage. Should I give Wheezy a try first? |
| 21:50.08 | n_np | abrotman i cant shh into a windows ghuest :o |
| 21:50.09 | jbroome | Rator: bleeding edge update it sounds like |
| 21:50.23 | ompaul | n_np: windows ... running sshd in cygwin but this is not a debian question so moot |
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| 21:50.31 | abrotman | Rator: hardly "normal" .. experimental is the playground of the developers .. things may or may not work, may cause solar flares to obliterate Mercury |
| 21:50.53 | Rator | abrotman, jbroome |
| 21:50.55 | somiaj | neirpyc: for the most part wheezy is going to run just fine (there are only a few rc bugs left). and contains much newer software. It doesn't have full security support (yet) and there are some bugs, but for a desktop/home user I see no drawbacks |
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| 21:51.02 | n_np | its sorta a debian question to ask what happened to libvirtd in the dist.... |
| 21:51.34 | somiaj | neirpyc: the choice is yours, I just didn't want you to get disapointed that all the software in squeeze is 3+ years old. |
| 21:51.35 | petn-randall | neirpyc: If you coming from Ubuntu, you'll spend much more time adapting than you'd do fixing that problem. |
| 21:51.43 | Rator | abrotman, jbroome: i am running unstable with some package from the experimental repo such as the kernel, i was just wondering if it would kill the dependencies or something |
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| 21:51.57 | petn-randall | neirpyc: I'm not trying to talk you out of Debian, it's a great OS, I just think your reasoning is wrong. |
| 21:51.57 | Rator | if i update everything |
| 21:52.36 | neirpyc | petn-randall: Really? The graphics card will never work correctly in Ubuntu. Everything I've tried has failed and it makes the laptop run with like 1/5th of the battery life. |
| 21:52.46 | abrotman | Rator: we cna't know what packages you have, etc |
| 21:52.57 | petn-randall | neirpyc: and I bet your problem with graphics card has already been solved, and you just worked with the wrong how-to. |
| 21:53.03 | abrotman | Rator: just make sure you have a backup of what matters |
| 21:53.15 | Rator | abrotman: ok, thx |
| 21:53.17 | petn-randall | neirpyc: which card/laptop is it? |
| 21:53.19 | rudi_s | As always (even if you don't run experimental). |
| 21:53.33 | neirpyc | petn-randall: I've tried every how-to I could find over the last few weeks. I can't remember how many fresh installs of Ubuntu I've done. |
| 21:53.59 | neirpyc | petn-randall: NVIDIA GeForce 320M 256 MB on a MacBook Pro 7,1 |
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| 21:54.45 | neirpyc | petn-randall: It works out of the box, but the opensource drivers kill the battery life. Trying anything with the proprietary drivers makes X not work. |
| 21:55.21 | petn-randall | neirpyc: And you tried a debian live CD and it works fine? |
| 21:55.25 | neirpyc | petn-randall: The opensource drivers also make the laptop run at dangerously high temperatures at points. |
| 21:55.48 | neirpyc | petn-randall: I *just* downloaded debian. Haven't given it a try yet. Came in here to ask which version I should get. |
| 21:56.04 | somiaj | neirpyc: you will want wheezy for that. So get a testing wheezy install (note it is still labeled as testing but is almost stable) |
| 21:56.51 | neirpyc | somiaj: I'm not seeing that on the site - mind giving me a link? |
| 21:56.51 | petn-randall | neirpyc: I still stand by my opinion that its wiser to fix the problem than to change the distro. You'll run into dozens of other problems you might not have with your current distro. |
| 21:57.32 | neirpyc | petn-randall: I get that, I just want to give it a shot. I can fix most minor issues. The graphics card is just a huge one. |
| 21:57.33 | babilen | dpkg: tell neirpyc -about install wheezy |
| 21:57.41 | babilen | dpkg: tell neirpyc -about firmware images wheezy |
| 21:57.49 | babilen | dpkg: tell neirpyc -about nvidia dkms wheezy |
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| 21:58.36 | babilen | neirpyc: Your card is supported by the driver version in wheezy (cf. ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/304.64/README/README.txt) |
| 21:58.37 | neirpyc | babilen: Thanks :) |
| 21:59.51 | babilen | neirpyc: Any preference regarding desktop environments? |
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| 22:00.36 | neirpyc | babilen: Not particularly. Other than the last few weeks trying not to break Ubuntu I haven't really tried anything other than Unity. |
| 22:00.50 | neirpyc | babilen: Not enough to have a real opinion, anyways. |
| 22:01.09 | ompaul | unity on debian? |
| 22:01.28 | babilen | neirpyc: Fair enough. You'll get Gnome 3 by default with that firmware Debian image. If you want to take a look at XFCE, LXDE or KDE (check their websites) and want to install them during the installation you have to choose that in the boot menu. |
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| 22:01.42 | ompaul | that's what I thunk |
| 22:02.05 | rww | I'm not sure why one would expect Debian to not have heat issues when Ubuntu does. Generally Ubuntu's driver stack is as new as or newer than Debian's, so... |
| 22:02.25 | babilen | neirpyc: So if you would want XFCE4 (for example) you would select Advanced options > Alternative desktop environments > Xfce > Install |
| 22:02.33 | abrotman | rww: doesn't mean it has fewer bugs |
| 22:03.25 | rww | abrotman: "It uses way too much power and gives off heat" tends to be "oh, we didn't implement $thing yet", rather than "oh noes a bug", and thus Debian is unlikely to help. But perhaps this is some new case I have not seen before. |
| 22:04.03 | rww | shrugs |
| 22:04.11 | abrotman | rww: just saying, newer doesn't mean less bugs, or even fixed bugs |
| 22:04.22 | abrotman | or even that new bugs haven't been introduced |
| 22:04.47 | neirpyc | rww: If that's the case, I'll happily switch back to OS X and be fine with it. I'm just wanting to give something new a try on this laptop that I'm stuck with for a few more years on an OS that I'm not entirely happy with any more. |
| 22:04.59 | rww | abrotman: I'm well aware of that, and that's not particularly relevant to this particular case imho. But whatevs. |
| 22:05.11 | rww | neirpyc: alrighty. well, good luck, regardless |
| 22:05.19 | neirpyc | rww: Thanks. :) |
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| 22:05.32 | abrotman | rww: you don't know that :) |
| 22:06.27 | neirpyc | Would something like Arch be any different? |
| 22:06.31 | abrotman | you'd have to ask them |
| 22:06.37 | neirpyc | Fair enough. |
| 22:07.19 | ompaul | if you expect them to say debian is better you would be expecting too much, and if you expect us to say they are, you have entered the land of the very deluded |
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| 22:08.43 | neirpyc | I don't expect anyone to say anything is better. It's all preference. |
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| 22:09.17 | neirpyc | Was just asking out of the "which one is less likely to give me the same issues as Ubuntu?" question that rww had raised. |
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| 22:09.55 | petn-randall | neirpyc: I bet your graphics driver hasn't implemented power management yet, then all your distro-hopping would be in vain. |
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| 22:11.18 | zmode | neirpyc: work on getting the prop driver to work if you can verify that it is not implemented in nouveau |
| 22:11.22 | neirpyc | petn-randall: There seems to be plenty of people who have gotten it to work great. For some reason any of those guides that I have tried have failed. Usually resulting in a reinstall. |
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| 22:12.03 | zmode | neirpyc: most guides that you'll find online are already deprecated and often require some knowledge of working with issues on your own |
| 22:12.22 | babilen | neirpyc: Why don't you give it a try and see? We can discuss this all night long and still wouldn't be any the wiser. |
| 22:12.53 | neirpyc | babilen: Yeah, just waiting for the iso to finish downloading. I'll hop over to IRC on my tablet once it's done and I'm running the install. |
| 22:13.02 | babilen | ack :) |
| 22:13.05 | petn-randall | neirpyc: it sounds to me that either the guide was inaccurate, or you missed to follow some detail. Either way, if a current distro doesn't work, a similarly current distro won't have it magically fixed. |
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| 22:15.52 | neirpyc | The Debian wiki says it's working fine with my card. Not sure if it's true yet. |
| 22:15.57 | neirpyc | "For MacBookPro7,1 download the driver from Nvidia (Geforce GT 320M) and install it manually. (Obsolete with squeeze) " |
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| 22:16.08 | neirpyc | Or am I reading that wrong? |
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| 22:18.27 | seekwill | Hello! I'm looking at this http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/. Do I need just the first DVD for a 'server' install? |
| 22:18.28 | somiaj | neirpyc: since you haven't gotten the nvidia drivers to work, I'd see if there are issues you can find on google for that card/laptop and those drivers |
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| 22:18.37 | lilibox | hi |
| 22:18.54 | somiaj | neirpyc: you don't want to use the nvidia.com drivers on debian (thinigs just don't work together nicely at times). Wheezy should have new enough drivers |
| 22:19.04 | petn-randall | seekwill: If you have internet access, yes. You can install everything else via the repositories. |
| 22:19.11 | lilibox | i am trying make RAID1 |
| 22:19.25 | somiaj | seekwill: you can even get away with just the netinstall image |
| 22:19.25 | seekwill | petn-randall: What if you don't (or not a very fast/reliable one)? |
| 22:19.36 | lilibox | and i am in middle of progress, plus, i am almost linux noob |
| 22:19.47 | seekwill | I'm downloading this for a friend who doesn't have very fast eInternet |
| 22:19.51 | somiaj | seekwill: note the netinstall image is a full minimal install, so even if you don't have internet access from the image, you can install a base system and then configure the internet, then continue to install. |
| 22:20.01 | petn-randall | seekwill: Then you can download all DVDs, and you'll have all software available. |
| 22:20.12 | lilibox | mdadm /dev/md0 -a /dev/sda1 - said device is busy, yes, because it is boot and / device |
| 22:20.16 | somiaj | seekwill: there is a list of what is on dvd1, it is a lot, but depending on the use you may need software off the other dvd's too. |
| 22:20.17 | seekwill | That's a lot :) |
| 22:20.23 | seekwill | oh ok |
| 22:20.23 | lilibox | how to solve this problem? |
| 22:20.31 | lilibox | please, thank you |
| 22:20.55 | petn-randall | seekwill: Well, how slow are we talking? Is it metered? |
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| 22:21.19 | seekwill | petn-randall: I'm not sure. He's in the Philippines. I'm in the US with cable, so just trying to help him out |
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| 22:23.07 | petn-randall | seekwill: Then it might make sense to download and burn the whole set. You can also just download the first few, if you don't want to install the uncommon software. |
| 22:23.28 | seekwill | yeah, that sounds like the best idea. |
| 22:23.30 | mutante | hey, got a package to monitor changes in the list of installed packages? like send out email whenever a package is installed ? |
| 22:23.30 | seekwill | Thanks :) |
| 22:23.32 | petn-randall | seekwill: The packages on the DVDs are sorted by popularity. More uncommon/obscure software is further on the back. |
| 22:23.36 | seekwill | ah! |
| 22:23.47 | petn-randall | seekwill: no problem, you're welcome :) |
| 22:24.01 | seekwill | That's good to know! I remember some CentOS version needed like DVD 1 and DVD 4, some stupid thing like that. |
| 22:24.14 | seekwill | Or a base install |
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| 22:24.52 | seekwill | Oh, another question. Is the release cycle similar to RHEL/CentOS, where Debian 6.0.7 is just Debian 6 with all the updates up to a specific time? |
| 22:25.03 | seekwill | (sorry, I normally use CentOS and Ubuntu LTS) |
| 22:25.06 | petn-randall | seekwill: yes. |
| 22:25.38 | petn-randall | seekwill: And major releases are usually a few years apart. |
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| 22:25.41 | seekwill | Cool. And how often are the releases (say 6.0.8?) |
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| 22:26.00 | petn-randall | seekwill: point releases happen every couple of months. |
| 22:26.18 | seekwill | Ah, so just like everyone else :) Thank you for the info :) |
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| 22:26.43 | petn-randall | seekwill: but if he does have (slow) internet access, it'll probably be enough to keep up-to-date and install the occasional application. |
| 22:26.48 | andkore | anyone know how to make the resize window area bigger in X11? it's really small right now, so it's hard to get the cursor on the right psot |
| 22:26.50 | andkore | spot* |
| 22:27.21 | seekwill | petn-randall: Yeah, that's the plan. I'm shipping him an old ESXi server actually. Going to preload it with a few ISOs so he can tinker around with it |
| 22:28.08 | petn-randall | seekwill: sounds like a plan, nice :) |
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| 22:28.32 | seekwill | Oh! One more question. There's an "debian-update" ISO. That sounds like a way to upgrade a 6.0.6 to 6.0.7, right? |
| 22:28.47 | rww | correct |
| 22:28.58 | seekwill | Thanks :) |
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| 22:33.03 | phasma | anybody able to help with this, please? http://serverfault.com/questions/488040/mysql-saslauthd-postfix-authentication-issue - thanks |
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| 22:35.39 | petn-randall | phasma: try cranking up the debug level. |
| 22:36.05 | petn-randall | phasma: this is squeeze? |
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| 22:36.17 | phasma | petn-randall: it's failing to go into debug (no error returned) |
| 22:36.19 | phasma | petn-randall: yep |
| 22:36.41 | seekwill | Have you tried #postfix? |
| 22:37.05 | phasma | not yet. tried here first as it's a multiple process issue |
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| 22:37.43 | petn-randall | phasma: The last thing cought me: it's the same error with a obivously wrong socket file? |
| 22:37.59 | phasma | it is, aye |
| 22:38.08 | petn-randall | phasma: sounds like you're running it the the chroot, where the socket file doesn't exist. |
| 22:38.24 | phasma | petn-randall: awesome. checking.... thanks |
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| 22:38.59 | petn-randall | phasma: for debugging, make a copy of master.cf, and set all chroot fields to n. |
| 22:39.31 | petn-randall | phasma: if it works, the problem is because the socket can't be reached from within the chroot. |
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| 22:40.00 | petn-randall | phasma: then you can still revert your master.cf and connect to the mysql server via loopback. |
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| 22:42.22 | Skaag | isn't postgres 9.2 supposed to be in squeeze? |
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| 22:43.03 | petn-randall | Skaag: no, pg 9.2 came out months ago, squeeze came out in 2011. How should that work? |
| 22:43.12 | Skaag | hrm. I see. |
| 22:43.28 | petn-randall | Skaag: :-] |
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| 22:44.37 | Skaag | and I see that 6 is the latest |
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| 22:52.35 | phasma | petn-randall: hrm... unless i am missing something, it does not seem chrooted. master.cf, right? |
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| 22:54.05 | petn-randall | phasma: everything with a - in the 5th column is chrooted. In my config that's nearly everything. |
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| 22:57.35 | petn-randall | phasma: actually, it might be easier just to test the mysql part with loopback. |
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| 22:59.18 | handheldCar | I can't make my keyboard volume change my default track. |
| 22:59.43 | handheldCar | gnome squeeze stable |
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| 23:01.07 | penguin1 | I got a problem with debian installer + apt-cacher-ng. I set the ip address of apt-cacher-ng server as mirror. but I get a corrupted mirror error message from installer. d-i mirror/http/hostname string 192.168.133.130:3128 |
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| 23:03.10 | petn-randall | penguin1: does that mirror work on a different system? |
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| 23:17.17 | lime_ | is there anywhere to set the keyboard layout under grub? |
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| 23:22.06 | enuguri | hi can anyone please tell me how I can redirect a standard output to a file or something which gets vanishes or gets deleted once the script completes |
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| 23:22.47 | enuguri | actually its not a script but just a command o/p I am trying to grep some information |
| 23:22.51 | jhutchins_wk | lime_: You'll have to dig through the grub docs for that - not something we get a lot of requests for. |
| 23:23.44 | petn-randall | enuguri: I'm don't quite understand the last part. Care to show us the full command line? |
| 23:24.02 | enuguri | petn-randall: sure I will |
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| 23:25.17 | enuguri | petn-randall: ffmpeg -i sample.mpg | grep Audio when I do this I get all the o/p again but I am interested only the lines containing the match |
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| 23:25.36 | lime_ | jhutchins_wk: I'm to change the debian keyboard layout using a grub setting, not changing the grub keyboard layout |
| 23:26.07 | petn-randall | enuguri: '> /dev/null' redirects standard out to limbo |
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| 23:26.15 | lime_ | yes I can imagine not many people care request a keyboard layout for grub |
| 23:26.43 | petn-randall | enuguri: '2> /dev/null' redirects standard error to the digital nirvana. |
| 23:27.13 | lime_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:27.35 | enuguri | petn-randall: sorry I didn't get you |
| 23:27.55 | petn-randall | enuguri: ffmpeg -i sample.mpg 2> /dev/null | grep Audio |
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| 23:28.12 | enuguri | petn-randall: thanks |
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| 23:28.24 | petn-randall | enuguri: this will throw away any error messages you get, leaving only those lines containing 'Audio' |
| 23:29.11 | enuguri | petn-randall: wow cool thanks alot |
| 23:29.22 | petn-randall | enuguri: you're welcome :) |
| 23:29.45 | phasma | petn-randall: awesome, getting somewhere. man, this is a mess. just getting a sasl auth error now (auth failure) - password is definitely right. thanks for the pointers :) |
| 23:30.23 | petn-randall | phasma: did it work using loopback instead of the socket? |
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| 23:40.21 | Dv0rak | hi I'm trying to install the gcc-mingw-w64-i686 toolchain on debian 6.0.7 but I cannot find it. I tried downloading the package manually but it has a lot of dependencies that I also cannot find them. Can anybody please tell me a repository address where this toolchain along with all of its dependencies can be found? |
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| 23:42.43 | debdog | Dv0rak: this package is avaiable on wheezy (7.x) only |
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| 23:43.46 | penguin1 | petn-randall: yes, it does. Other systems can use it using apt. |
| 23:44.32 | rommel092079 | guys I just download and tried to burn the wheezy iso and burn it with verification. however I am getting CRC error. |
| 23:44.41 | Dv0rak | debdog: aren't the 7.x versions of debian unstable? |
| 23:46.30 | debdog | Dv0rak: rather 'testing' than 'unstable'. but since it is frozen for quite a long time now it should be pretty stable (excpet for a few bugs http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?release=wheezy&merged=ign&fnewerval=7&rc=1&sortby=id&sorto=asc |
| 23:46.47 | debdog | *except |
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| 23:47.13 | rommel092079 | guys I just download and tried to burn the wheezy iso and burn it with verification. however I am getting CRC error. |
| 23:47.39 | rommel092079 | i will try to download this http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.7/i386/iso-dvd/ |
| 23:47.51 | rommel092079 | may I ask if what I need is only ISO 1 |
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| 23:50.35 | somiaj | rommel092079: do yo uhave a good internet connenction? |
| 23:51.00 | somiaj | rommel092079: if so, the netinstall iso should be sufficent |
| 23:51.13 | rommel092079 | somiaj: yes I have but not good enough fo netinstall |
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| 23:52.24 | Orestes | hi how much time take the netinstall ? |
| 23:52.29 | rommel092079 | that was my second time to download wheezy but still I am getting CRC error upon verifying after burning. |
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| 23:53.34 | somiaj | Orestes: what do you mean by time? The install is only longer than a dvd because you have to wait to download (so this is the time issue). Note there are some issues with firmware and certain network devices |
| 23:53.57 | somiaj | but the netinstall is a full minimial system, so you don't need the internet to have a functional debian minimial system. |
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| 23:54.33 | rommel092079 | I am trying to download from here http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.7/i386/iso-dvd/ |
| 23:54.45 | rommel092079 | do I only need ISO 1 and not all ? |
| 23:55.21 | somiaj | rommel092079: dvd iso 1 should be enough to install. Though there are pelnty of things not on it. (: |
| 23:56.27 | jpinx | rommel092079: why not download the small netinstall iso and install that way. I do it on a really slow connection without problems - just slow |
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| 23:56.54 | jpinx | rommel092079: youcan choose what you want in your system as you go along |
| 23:57.33 | rommel092079 | I need only the iso to start with and use the internet later to update. so is it ISO 1 that I need for now ? |
| 23:58.09 | jpinx | rommel092079: no - you need the netinstall .iso |
| 23:58.13 | jpinx | !netinstall |
| 23:58.14 | dpkg | netinst is, like, a small CD image with which you can install Debian. If, during the installation process you have a working Internet connection, you can install more packages straight away, otherwise, you will have a base install and more packages later. See http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ See also <various cd1>, <check iso image>, <dialup install>, <usb install>, <installer>. |
| 23:58.17 | rommel092079 | from this http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.7/i386/iso-dvd/ |
| 23:58.22 | jpinx | rommel092079: ^^ |
| 23:58.50 | jpinx | rommel092079: follow the instructions above ^^ |
| 23:59.11 | *** join/#debian scootypuff (~barbs@pool-71-170-159-148.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:59.14 | dvs | rommel092079: are you using a wired connection? |
| 23:59.26 | rommel092079 | im using wired |
| 23:59.44 | rommel092079 | jpinx: does netinstall have the desktop installation ? |