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| 00:01.51 | john_rambo | How to make a file executable ? I am using xfce & there is no option the properties |
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| 00:02.41 | LtL | john_rambo: open a terminal and learn/use chmod |
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| 00:03.19 | john_rambo | LtL, sudo chmod +x monitor.sh Is that okay ? |
| 00:03.59 | LtL | john_rambo: no, i doubt it, try chmod 755 monitor.sh |
| 00:05.01 | LtL | john_rambo: i prefer octals, ugo+x monitor.sh works too. man chmod |
| 00:05.14 | john_rambo | LtL, How do I know that it has become executable ? |
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| 00:05.44 | LtL | john_rambo: ls -l monitor.sh it should have 'x' bits set |
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| 00:06.09 | LtL | john_rambo: or stat monitor.sh for details |
| 00:06.26 | john_rambo | LtL, Done. Thanks |
| 00:06.33 | LtL | john_rambo: welcome |
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| 00:10.38 | drasko | I want to mount /home on the separate partition. How much should I allocate for debian system (without /home) ? |
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| 00:14.44 | jelly-home | drasko: 20GB is lots of space for a workstation, even with lots of crap installed. If you're not sure, why not use LVM and grow the filesystems as needed. |
| 00:15.32 | drasko | jelly, what is LVM ? Virtual machine ? |
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| 00:16.36 | drasko | No, I'd like to install Debian on a new machine and I am wondering how much to allocate for / and how much for /home, as I'd like to keep /home on separate partition. |
| 00:16.37 | jelly-home | drasko: lvm is a way to use disk space so the slices used for each filesystem can be extended online |
| 00:16.41 | jelly-home | !lvm |
| 00:16.42 | dpkg | [lvm] the Linux Logical Volume Manager (http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/). Resources: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/, <lvm_tutorial>, <lvm removedisk>, <lvm movelv>, <install using lvm>, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/410, http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/wiki/ IRC: #lvm on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 00:20.21 | drasko | jelly-home, would that mean that you do some reconfiguring (re-partitioning) explicitly when you run out of space, or there is some kind of daemon that watches filesystem size and grows it dynamically when needed ? |
| 00:20.41 | jelly-home | drasko: you do it explicitely |
| 00:21.01 | jelly-home | however unlike normal partitions, it can be done without downtime |
| 00:21.53 | drasko | I have win8 on the machine that just came. Is Wheezy installer supposed to recognize presence of this system and avoid deleting MBR ? |
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| 00:22.13 | Nik05 | well it does overwrite 0mBR |
| 00:22.20 | Nik05 | MBR* |
| 00:22.45 | drasko | Nik05, but I Grub there recognizes existing Win or not ? |
| 00:22.58 | drasko | Or i have to re-set it ? |
| 00:23.00 | Nik05 | i think so |
| 00:23.12 | Nik05 | it will recognise |
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| 00:26.23 | seafax | if i wanted to install debian squeeze and windows 7 on the same machine would the order i installed them matter? should one be installed first? |
| 00:27.15 | Nik05 | seafax windows 7 then debian |
| 00:27.40 | Nik05 | or otherway around but then you need to fix grub again |
| 00:29.02 | peterrooney | seafax: Microsoft mistakenly believes it owns the bootloader, and has suppressed all who try to subvert that. |
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| 00:30.26 | peterrooney | Any windows installer will gladly destroy data from not-MS. |
| 00:31.32 | peterrooney | realizes that he's still got a chip on his shoulder about BeOS. |
| 00:32.32 | rww | not the only one |
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| 00:38.13 | drasko | jelly-home, I was just thinking - it would be difficult to resize FS if I allocated 20GB partition and it needs more. Then I would have to grow the partition, and probably shrink and move /home, or whatever partition that follows |
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| 00:48.41 | jelly-home | drasko: that's where lvm cmoes in handy. Of course it does that at the expense of being more complex. |
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| 01:23.00 | philluminati | What's the name of that program that allows you to install the same packages on debian and fedora? |
| 01:23.03 | philluminati | packagekit? |
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| 01:24.37 | gnarface | philluminati: alien? |
| 01:24.54 | gnarface | philluminati: i thought it was alien |
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| 01:27.05 | JyZyXEL | how do you stop X from turning off the monitor after a while? |
| 01:28.46 | gnarface | xset dpms something or another |
| 01:28.57 | JyZyXEL | tried it, it didn't work |
| 01:29.09 | gnarface | try harder |
| 01:29.16 | gnarface | sometimes there are more than one setting |
| 01:29.29 | gnarface | xset dpms off works for some of my displays |
| 01:29.41 | JyZyXEL | i tried xset -dpms and xset s noblank and xset s off |
| 01:29.45 | JyZyXEL | none of these did anything |
| 01:29.47 | gnarface | for some reason one needs xset dpms 0 0 0 |
| 01:30.04 | gnarface | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:30.07 | gnarface | you have to turn all three off |
| 01:30.16 | gnarface | i think there are multiple syntax styles in which you can do it though |
| 01:30.32 | gnarface | also you know... make sure you're not running xscreensaver too or gnome screensaver or whatever have you |
| 01:30.44 | JyZyXEL | i am not |
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| 01:31.11 | angs | I am trying to compile opnessl-1.0.1e on a debian squeeze that has 3.7.1 kernel and armv5 processor. when I type ./config --prefix=/usr I get this error http://pastebin.com/XHKxLUdw what is wrong with it? I follow the instruction on http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/postlfs/openssl.html to compile the package |
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| 01:31.59 | Pumtrix | Hi, If I update the kernel will my /etc/network changes be reverted back to default? |
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| 01:34.01 | JyZyXEL | the xser dpms 0 0 0 seems promising |
| 01:34.37 | gnarface | JyZyXEL: i *think* the issue is that not all displays support all 3 blanking modes at the hardware level, so you often don't have to worry about setting them all. |
| 01:34.58 | gnarface | JyZyXEL: i could be wrong about that though. i just know i only seem to need it for certain rigs. |
| 01:36.27 | dokma | jelly-home, petn-randall: http://www.evorion.hr/boot.jpg, http://www.evorion.hr/menu.jpg |
| 01:36.36 | dokma | still awake? |
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| 01:39.52 | sig_wall | dokma: do you have /dev/md0 in kernel command line or /dev/md/0 ? |
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| 01:40.25 | sig_wall | seems that initramfs' mount cannot find the root device |
| 01:40.29 | dokma | sig_wall: I just pasted a picture of my kernel command line |
| 01:40.36 | dokma | http://www.evorion.hr/menu.jpg |
| 01:40.43 | sig_wall | ah, sorry |
| 01:40.48 | dokma | that's what I think as well |
| 01:40.56 | dokma | but can't figure out why |
| 01:41.15 | dokma | my root file system is on a logical volume on a raid array md0 |
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| 01:44.16 | JyZyXEL | gnarface: it didnt work |
| 01:44.28 | rosipov | where do I get default debian terminal colors? |
| 01:45.10 | gnarface | JyZyXEL: hmm. sorry. i got nothing then. maybe your window manager? what does your motherboard manager say about display powermanagement settings? |
| 01:45.31 | JyZyXEL | whats a motherboard manager? |
| 01:46.22 | FenderQ | ummm ya if you could just send me an interrupt via a sign, that'd be great |
| 01:46.25 | FenderQ | motherboard manager |
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| 01:46.31 | FenderQ | s/sign/signal |
| 01:48.09 | petn-randall | FenderQ: Sounds like a translation from another language. I'm pretty sure it's called something else in English. :) |
| 01:48.23 | FenderQ | :) |
| 01:49.33 | gnarface | sorry i meant motherboard bios |
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| 01:54.30 | magyar | hi, I've updated to the latest kernel for wheezy and an interesting thing happened, both of my realtek card got a new and same MAC addresses. How is this possible? |
| 01:55.40 | petn-randall | magyar: Do you have firmware-linux-nonfree installed? |
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| 02:00.18 | magyar | petn-randall: sure do |
| 02:01.04 | petn-randall | dokma: I'm missing some lines about your LVM coming up. |
| 02:01.16 | magyar | also firmware-realtek |
| 02:01.30 | dokma | petn-randall: I'm just wondering where that should've happened |
| 02:02.41 | petn-randall | magyar: I'd check /var/log/kern.log for suspicious messages. |
| 02:02.57 | petn-randall | dokma: Do you have a /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf? |
| 02:03.15 | dokma | yes... I pasted that some 5,6 hours ago |
| 02:03.22 | dokma | I think you took a look at it |
| 02:03.33 | magyar | petn-randall: I mind you this was working fine prior the kernel update 3.2.39-2 |
| 02:03.34 | dokma | there were no arrays defined in it |
| 02:04.30 | dokma | petn-randall: how do I add the array definition to mdadm.conf manually? |
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| 02:05.40 | petn-randall | <jelly-home > dokma: use mdadm --examine --scan to generate ARRAY lines. Add them to /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf. run dpkg-reconfigure mdadm and let the package know which raid array needs to be brought up at boot. |
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| 02:06.27 | dokma | thank you |
| 02:06.28 | petn-randall | dokma: ^^ jelly-home had quite a few tips for you before you went to church. I'd work through them. |
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| 02:06.54 | petn-randall | (which are pretty much the steps I was coming up with :) |
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| 02:08.08 | dokma | ok did a mdadm --examine --scan >> /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf |
| 02:08.21 | dokma | now it looks similar to the working one on my dedicated server |
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| 02:08.31 | dokma | will do a dpkg-reconfigure |
| 02:08.49 | magyar | petn-randall: http://pastebin.com/dGz6GK76 << here it is, before and after |
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| 02:10.36 | petn-randall | magyar: could you paste the output of 'ip link'? |
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| 02:10.59 | dokma | petn-randall: rebooting after the dpkg-reconfigure mdadm |
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| 02:12.06 | magyar | petn-randall: sure can >> http://pastebin.com/ZZETfM2q |
| 02:12.34 | dokma | petn-randall: same thing |
| 02:12.47 | dokma | can't mount root fs |
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| 02:14.56 | petn-randall | dokma: install busybox, then you'll be able to poke around the system after it fails to find root |
| 02:15.23 | dokma | great |
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| 02:15.25 | dokma | thanks |
| 02:15.48 | dokma | right now I get an (initramfs) prompt |
| 02:15.59 | dokma | but it doesn't accept any keyboard input |
| 02:16.02 | dokma | just freezes |
| 02:16.21 | petn-randall | magyar: oh damn! Does the mac address stay the same after cold booting? |
| 02:17.01 | magyar | petn-randall: yeah, I even cleaned up udev rules also |
| 02:17.22 | magyar | I need to get back to the kernel prior to march 17th |
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| 02:19.13 | petn-randall | dokma: you sure you installed it onto the new root? It should have triggered a rebuild of the initramfs. |
| 02:19.32 | petn-randall | dokma: you can always do that by hand by running 'update-initramfs -k all -u' |
| 02:19.33 | dokma | it did |
| 02:19.42 | petn-randall | oh, ok |
| 02:20.21 | dokma | petn-randall: I still get this dead prompt after the boot fails |
| 02:20.28 | dokma | it just says (initramfs) |
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| 02:20.34 | petn-randall | :( |
| 02:20.36 | dokma | and no keyboard input is accepted |
| 02:20.45 | jelly-home | dokma: do you have a ps2 keyboard handy? |
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| 02:21.05 | dokma | on the attic |
| 02:21.07 | jelly-home | sometimes the initramfs image doesn't get usb hid modules loaded |
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| 02:21.21 | dokma | I suspected that |
| 02:21.30 | dokma | let me fetch that ... |
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| 02:22.12 | jelly-home | had to add hid_lenovo_tpkbd manually to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules |
| 02:24.17 | petn-randall | dokma: you're missing some lines like this: http://paste.debian.net/244106/ |
| 02:26.20 | dokma | petn-randall: yes, I was wondering why I didn't see anything LVMish... |
| 02:26.24 | dokma | I got my PS2 |
| 02:26.41 | dokma | but have no clue what to do at the (initramfs) prompt |
| 02:26.44 | jelly-home | dokma: is there anything in /dev/mapper/ in the initramfs? |
| 02:27.10 | jelly-home | (except the control node) |
| 02:27.17 | dokma | jelly-home: hoe do I find that out from this prompt? |
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| 02:27.28 | jelly-home | dokma: it's a shell. |
| 02:27.34 | dokma | ahhh |
| 02:28.26 | petn-randall | dokma: check mount, /proc/mdstat, try to see how far the LVM is up |
| 02:28.50 | dokma | there is a /dev/mapper/vgmain-root |
| 02:29.02 | dokma | shouldn't that be my root file system? |
| 02:29.09 | petn-randall | dokma: Is it mountable? |
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| 02:29.33 | petn-randall | (maybe it's a dangling symlink?) |
| 02:29.34 | dokma | what can I try mount /dev/mapper/vgmain-root / ? |
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| 02:29.45 | petn-randall | dokma: jup |
| 02:29.53 | jelly-home | that won't work |
| 02:30.04 | jelly-home | and even if it does, it's not a good idea |
| 02:30.22 | petn-randall | /mnt/tmp it is then :) |
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| 02:31.53 | dokma | I tried mount /dev/mapper/vgmain-root /tmp/mnt |
| 02:31.55 | dokma | no go |
| 02:32.00 | dokma | mount usage pops out |
| 02:32.33 | petn-randall | dokma: check where it points to: ls -al /dev/mapper/vgmain-root |
| 02:32.35 | jelly-home | dokma: this is busybox mount, give it -t ... |
| 02:33.15 | jelly-home | and make sure the mountpoint exists |
| 02:33.28 | petn-randall | dokma: you're in good company, I'm off to bed. Good luck! |
| 02:35.02 | dokma | points to /dev/dm-0 |
| 02:35.28 | dokma | can't mount with mount -t ext4 /dev/mapper/vgmain-root /tmp/mnt |
| 02:35.41 | dokma | I get no such device |
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| 02:35.55 | jelly-home | hm. |
| 02:36.15 | jelly-home | dokma: does "vgchange -ay" do anything? |
| 02:36.55 | dokma | say 1 logical volumes in volume group vgmain now active |
| 02:37.04 | magyar | petn-randall: something else is a miss, I've reverted the kernel, but the problem with the Realtek mac addresses is still there |
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| 02:37.21 | petn-randall | dokma: does /dev/dm-0 and /tmp/mnt exist? Do pvs, vgs, lvs output anything (not sure if they're in the initramfs)? |
| 02:37.27 | jelly-home | dokma: that implies it wasn't active before. exit from that shell. |
| 02:37.46 | jelly-home | petn-randall: there's just vgchange IME |
| 02:38.15 | dokma | pvs lvs vgs don't exists in this shell |
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| 02:38.33 | dokma | .. /dev/dm-o exists |
| 02:38.47 | petn-randall | dokma: maybe LVM isn't brought up on a degraded array. |
| 02:38.52 | dokma | jelly-home: exit to where |
| 02:38.55 | dokma | I can only reboot |
| 02:38.58 | jelly-home | dokma: just type "exit" |
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| 02:39.17 | jelly-home | or ^D on an empty line |
| 02:39.24 | dokma | got kernel panic |
| 02:39.40 | jelly-home | oh, right |
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| 02:39.49 | jelly-home | !debug initramfs |
| 02:39.50 | dpkg | well, initramfsdebug is http://wiki.debian.org/InitramfsDebug |
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| 02:40.05 | dokma | reboot? |
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| 02:41.31 | jelly-home | dokma: yes, and add break=premount boot parameter. |
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| 02:42.20 | dokma | that's on the linux line? |
| 02:42.26 | jelly-home | right |
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| 02:42.59 | dokma | got initramfs prompt again |
| 02:43.11 | Soru | Good night |
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| 02:43.16 | dokma | vgchange -ay ? |
| 02:43.40 | jelly-home | dokma: now do "vgchange -ay" again. Is there a "blkid" command available? Run it |
| 02:43.52 | jelly-home | ...after vgchange |
| 02:43.58 | dokma | blkid available |
| 02:44.28 | dokma | vgchange -ay after blkid say no volume groups found |
| 02:44.52 | jelly-home | did md0 gets started this time? |
| 02:45.02 | dokma | I have a feel raid didn't get up |
| 02:45.11 | jelly-home | cat /proc/mdstat to confirm |
| 02:45.28 | dokma | no /proc/mdstat |
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| 02:46.05 | jelly-home | huh |
| 02:46.16 | jelly-home | modprobe raid1 ? |
| 02:46.16 | dokma | any way to break boot after raid is up? |
| 02:46.39 | jelly-home | I thought that _was_ after all the modules get loaded |
| 02:46.44 | dokma | now I have proc mdstat |
| 02:46.59 | dokma | but id does not show any arrays |
| 02:47.05 | jelly-home | and you should be able to manually mdadm -A /dev/md0 |
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| 02:48.03 | dokma | raid up |
| 02:48.17 | dokma | no volume groups found still |
| 02:48.26 | dokma | on vgchange -ay |
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| 02:50.12 | petn-randall | dokma: pvscan, vgscan |
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| 02:50.14 | dokma | when I run lvm I get access to lvs vgs and the like |
| 02:50.27 | jelly-home | oh, that's nice |
| 02:50.37 | dokma | pvscan and vgscan not available from the shell |
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| 02:50.51 | dokma | but from lvm shell |
| 02:50.54 | jelly-home | does it see the vg? |
| 02:50.55 | dokma | I can run vgscan |
| 02:51.02 | dokma | and it found vgmain |
| 02:51.26 | dokma | on lvscan I get |
| 02:51.29 | jelly-home | exit it, run "vgchange -ay" instead, again |
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| 02:51.48 | dokma | .. /proc/misc No entry for device mapper found |
| 02:52.04 | dokma | is device mapper driver missing from kernel |
| 02:52.10 | dokma | failure to communicate with kernel device mapper driver |
| 02:52.17 | jelly-home | oh. modprobe dm_mod, then |
| 02:52.19 | dokma | inactive dev vgmain root |
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| 02:53.15 | dokma | vgchange -ay gives vgmain now active |
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| 02:53.40 | jelly-home | exit, then |
| 02:53.42 | dokma | can I try to resume boot now? |
| 02:53.44 | dokma | ok |
| 02:54.09 | dokma | now I get failed to assemble all arrays |
| 02:54.16 | dokma | which before did work |
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| 02:54.28 | dokma | my girl is dying to get to sleep |
| 02:54.30 | jelly-home | that's fine, since you assembled one manually |
| 02:54.32 | dokma | it's 4 am here |
| 02:54.49 | dokma | it still didn't find /sbin/init |
| 02:54.56 | dokma | so no root fs if I get it correctly |
| 02:54.58 | jelly-home | so go to sleep, this can't possibly be mission critical can it? |
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| 02:55.29 | dokma | no it's my desktop with a working system on sda |
| 02:55.38 | dokma | this is migration to raid so it can wait |
| 02:55.44 | dokma | will catch up tomorrow |
| 02:55.45 | jelly-home | see you tomorrow then |
| 02:55.53 | dokma | thank you for your time! |
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| 03:18.13 | DanDare | Hello. I just ran rkhunter on my Debian squeeze install and got "Warning: The command '/sbin/chkconfig' has been replaced by a script: /sbin/chkconfig: a /usr/bin/perl script text executable" |
| 03:18.23 | DanDare | Is this something expected ? |
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| 03:25.12 | grothendieck | "NoScript is incompatible with Iceweasel 19.0" - Why? |
| 03:25.53 | grothendieck | I have Iceweasel installed from backports on squeeze, do I have to install the xul-addon-noscripit package from backports? |
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| 03:26.48 | stew | chkconfig on debian? |
| 03:27.12 | LtL | grothendieck: it works on mine |
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| 03:29.07 | zb | hi |
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| 03:31.06 | zb | bye |
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| 03:34.02 | DanDare | I have stop apache2 with '/etc/init.d/apache2 stop' but after some minutes I have a apache2 process started again automatically. I dont have any cronjob doing it. What should I look ? |
| 03:34.28 | Pumtrix | Maybe look in apache2 logs to see what's starting it? |
| 03:34.38 | stew | DanDare: monit? |
| 03:34.54 | stew | DanDare: how did you check if cron was starting it? |
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| 03:35.02 | DanDare | good idea Pumtrix |
| 03:35.07 | stew | (there are lots of potential places to check for cronjobs) |
| 03:35.15 | DanDare | stew, well, just checked whats on crontab |
| 03:35.21 | DanDare | understand |
| 03:35.27 | stew | DanDare: checked how? |
| 03:35.47 | DanDare | stew did 'cat /etc/crontab' to check its content |
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| 03:36.10 | stew | DanDare: and that led you to /etc/cron.hourly, and friends and you checked there? |
| 03:36.34 | stew | DanDare: what /var/spool/cron/ and /etc/cron.d |
| 03:36.35 | DanDare | stew, not yet, thanks |
| 03:38.05 | DanDare | I have this from 'ps -aux' = "www-data 29902 0.0 0.1 2544 1260 ? S 00:31 0:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start" |
| 03:38.12 | DanDare | it looks strange ? |
| 03:38.15 | stew | no |
| 03:38.27 | stew | it looks normal |
| 03:38.57 | DanDare | what bugs me is that I manually stop apache and its being started again like that |
| 03:39.05 | DanDare | after 1 or 2 minutes |
| 03:40.04 | stew | is it monit? |
| 03:40.11 | stew | or something similar? |
| 03:40.15 | DanDare | i dont have monit installed |
| 03:40.16 | stew | that's my guess |
| 03:40.26 | DanDare | ok, I will check whats monit |
| 03:40.47 | DanDare | well I do have cacti installed |
| 03:41.00 | stew | that's just for making graphs |
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| 03:42.21 | DanDare | I got infected by http://www.prolexic.com/news-events-pr-threat-advisory-ddos-itsoknoproblembro.html and im just trying (starting) to sort things out |
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| 03:42.23 | DanDare | :( |
| 03:46.08 | stew | DanDare: how did you determine that? |
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| 03:47.05 | DanDare | stew, received a e-mail from VPS provider saying that their abuse email received warnings about nasty activity from my IP |
| 03:47.16 | Some_Person | Can anyone suggest a good tool to monitor bandwidth (in GB)? |
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| 03:47.25 | DanDare | checked apache logs but could not detect that though |
| 03:47.31 | stew | DanDare: ok? |
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| 03:47.35 | stew | DanDare: then what? |
| 03:48.16 | DanDare | stew, well, im just confused. Im not exactly an expert or a professional admin |
| 03:48.25 | stew | DanDare: how did you make a leap from "nasty activity" to a DDoS? |
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| 03:48.57 | DanDare | stew, I will show you that email, hold on |
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| 03:50.10 | Some_Person | My VPS has a 100GB bandwidth limit and I want to see how much I actually use |
| 03:50.40 | Some_Person | (obviously I won't know until next month, but still) |
| 03:50.41 | stew | Some_Person: instantaneously? or do you want to gather historical information? |
| 03:50.50 | Some_Person | historical -- over a month |
| 03:51.00 | DanDare | stew, its what they are saying http://pastebin.com/B0BxGUgZ |
| 03:51.10 | stew | Some_Person: perhaps something like munin or cacti? |
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| 03:53.37 | stew | DanDare: when you said "infected by" what did you mean by that? |
| 03:53.42 | Some_Person | stew: thanks, I'll look into those |
| 03:53.45 | stew | DanDare: does that file actually exist? |
| 03:54.27 | stew | DanDare: by "that file" I mean semi.php |
| 03:54.31 | DanDare | stew, no! I just contacted VPS support to ask about it (if they deleted it by any manner), but that file doesnt exist |
| 03:55.04 | DanDare | also suggested log parser script doesnt detected anything wrong with access logs |
| 03:55.21 | DanDare | but still, they received that warning e-mail |
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| 03:55.45 | stew | DanDare: do you run joomla? |
| 03:55.50 | DanDare | yeah :( |
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| 03:56.19 | DanDare | I think I should get rid of joomla and hire someone to produce my website for me |
| 03:56.20 | stew | DanDare: and you ran curl and got what result? |
| 03:56.30 | DanDare | not found |
| 03:57.20 | DanDare | that file doesnt exist really (at least it doesnt exist since the first time i looked for it) |
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| 04:01.27 | Towzzer | dandare, have you tried wordpress |
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| 04:02.04 | stew | if you are in the business of delivering vulnerabilities, wordpress is probably more efficent |
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| 04:02.28 | DanDare | Towzzer, i dont. Wordpress is really not good for my website anyway |
| 04:02.34 | DanDare | heh |
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| 04:03.16 | Towzzer | what about drupal |
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| 04:03.44 | DanDare | I guess its not much different |
| 04:04.06 | DanDare | any "standard" system like that will be prone to attacks |
| 04:04.39 | DanDare | PHP scripts that are the same all around the world, sounds not promising in regard security |
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| 04:04.53 | DanDare | *regarding security |
| 04:05.02 | Towzzer | it's because you take in input |
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| 04:05.08 | Towzzer | it's not php |
| 04:05.13 | stew | sure it is |
| 04:05.23 | stew | i mean, sure, php has tons of problems on its own |
| 04:05.24 | Towzzer | just sanitize everything |
| 04:05.33 | stew | then you add poor stuff like wordpress |
| 04:05.55 | stew | you can sanitize all you want, but you can't convince the php devleopers to not be stupid also |
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| 04:14.45 | DanDare | anyway. I will try to produce some script to try detecting if my box is originating or participating in such damn botnet attacks |
| 04:14.58 | DanDare | and just block everything but not ssh |
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| 04:23.44 | Some_Person | I don't need something fancy with graphs and stuff like munin/cacti. Is there not some simple way for me to just figure out my bandwidth usage in a month (a CLI tool would do)? |
| 04:24.42 | Some_Person | I just want a count of total bandwidth usage in GB |
| 04:25.28 | well_laid_lawn | Some_Person: conky does that so check it's code |
| 04:25.39 | well_laid_lawn | or use conky if you are always up |
| 04:25.52 | DanDare | Some_Person, just take care about taking account of broadcast traffic as if its part of your 10GB limit |
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| 04:26.05 | DanDare | it may lead to wrong conclusions |
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| 04:26.39 | Some_Person | broadcast traffic? |
| 04:27.29 | DanDare | Some_Person, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_traffic |
| 04:28.13 | DanDare | Some_Person, like http://forum.crucial.com.au/virtual-private-servers-vps/349-lots-broadcast-traffic-hitting-my-server.html e.g. |
| 04:28.38 | DanDare | I used Crucial before.... until the day they decided to not upgrade Debian OS anymore |
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| 04:33.30 | Rusty1 | Some_Person: iftop ? |
| 04:34.22 | Some_Person | Rusty1: if I keep an ssh session open for a month maybe....... |
| 04:34.31 | DanDare | :) |
| 04:35.12 | DanDare | Some_Person, cacti is really nice for that. Well I got it you have no intentions of using it |
| 04:35.18 | DanDare | but it surely works for that |
| 04:35.36 | Rusty1 | Some_Person: mrtg or its variants as stew suggests tehn |
| 04:35.58 | Rusty1 | snmp etc |
| 04:37.22 | Some_Person | most of these tools seem to show traffic in bits/s (or similar units) though. I just want a count of how much data has been going in/out of the server |
| 04:38.01 | DanDare | you can set whatever viewing you need with cacti |
| 04:38.29 | Rusty1 | or nagios, tho a bit of a pain to set up |
| 04:38.32 | DanDare | last hour/day/month/year amount among other stuff |
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| 04:41.23 | DanDare | reads http://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/view/30053/dissection-of-itsoknoproblembro-the-ddos-tool-that-shook-the-banking-world/ in the meanwhile |
| 04:41.27 | Some_Person | DanDare: The screenshots on their site just show bytes/s though. I don't care about that |
| 04:41.45 | Some_Person | Are you sure it can measure total traffic as well? (preferably in GB) |
| 04:41.53 | DanDare | Some_Person, yeah im sure |
| 04:42.32 | DanDare | you just add a new graph from a drop down menu with lots of options, including total traffic |
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| 04:48.28 | DanDare | Some_Person, its like this: http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/569/inboundzw1.jpg you just set the interval you want to view data |
| 04:48.56 | Some_Person | ok, I guess that would wok |
| 04:48.58 | Some_Person | *work |
| 04:49.03 | Sidicas | It appears the linux-image-3.6-trunk-amd64 package is no longer in the repos.. IS there any way I can get the headers package for linux-image-3.6-trunk? Kernel 3.7 and 3.8 trunks have got regressions for me so I don't want to use them.. |
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| 04:50.01 | Sidicas | 3.2.0-4 in Wheezy works well, but the touchpad light doesn't work to show when the touchpad is disabled :(. Kernel 3.6 has been the best for me but I don't have the headers for it. |
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| 04:51.06 | Some_Person | nevermind, just found a tool called vnstat which seems to be exactly what I want |
| 04:51.14 | Some_Person | thanks for the suggestions though |
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| 04:54.57 | jamis | So... can some one tell me how raspbian is related to debian? I'm poking at an arm7 debian build and wondering if there's some "protocol" that raspbian followed to spit out arm6... |
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| 04:58.56 | boldfilter | Where are mounted partition in root? Media folder? |
| 04:59.24 | jamis | you can type mount to list the mount points... |
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| 05:01.12 | boldfilter | Trying to put firmware on a usb I made from the debian DVD |
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| 05:01.50 | hoderZ | jamis: best as i know it, raspbian is built from debian sources. |
| 05:02.05 | hoderZ | might make sense to check over in #raspbian |
| 05:02.30 | boldfilter | And usb is red only |
| 05:02.31 | jamis | hoderZ: Alright. I didn't know if there was any speical, "sanctioned" connection between the projects. Thanks though :) |
| 05:02.52 | jamis | boldfilter: did the usb drive mount automatically? |
| 05:03.09 | hoderZ | yeah, i don't think anything official. |
| 05:03.22 | boldfilter | Probably |
| 05:03.34 | boldfilter | Can I remount it as read/write |
| 05:04.01 | jamis | boldfilter: you can try unmounting it and then remounting it manually at whatever location you want and see if it errors out... |
| 05:04.08 | boldfilter | its /dev/sdc |
| 05:04.14 | jamis | ah wait |
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| 05:05.09 | jamis | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:05.41 | boldfilter | Whats my mount point |
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| 05:06.03 | jamis | type mount |
| 05:06.04 | boldfilter | /media/0 or something |
| 05:06.18 | jamis | and see if /dev/sdc is listed anywhere... |
| 05:06.40 | jamis | it's not going to be /dev/sdc though. it'd be /dev/sdc1 or /dev/sdc2 or something like that |
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| 05:07.16 | boldfilter | /dev/sdc1 on /run/media/dg/Debian wheezy-DI-rc1 amd64 1 type iso9660 |
| 05:07.21 | boldfilter | oh ok |
| 05:07.24 | boldfilter | thanks |
| 05:07.40 | boldfilter | duh |
| 05:07.44 | jamis | :) |
| 05:07.54 | jamis | that's it :) |
| 05:09.05 | boldfilter | What if the icon to it has a lock on it |
| 05:09.41 | boldfilter | read only file system |
| 05:10.13 | boldfilter | remount as read/write or something |
| 05:14.33 | boldfilter | Can you edit an iso in linux |
| 05:14.45 | boldfilter | Like poweriso in windows |
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| 05:19.56 | nick01 | in which point of booting system kernel finished loading ? |
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| 05:23.32 | nick01 | does kernel start loading proc on early boot or is the proc part of buuting kernel ? |
| 05:25.41 | vlyalcin | can anybody show me result of the cat /var/lib/AccountsService/users/[USER NAME] ([USER NAME] is your system user) |
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| 05:29.12 | grothendieck | nick01: without kernel, there are no processes |
| 05:29.49 | grothendieck | nick01: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/lki/lki-1.html |
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| 05:39.38 | susi | is there any good documentation of why debian packages apache/httpd differently (naming, configuration files), what those differences are and why they were made over a standard installation? (aside from the DebianDeb0rkification) |
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| 05:47.03 | truexfan81 | ha i would love to get a debian cloak lol |
| 05:47.13 | Jason | it'd be quite cool no? why do you think i'm asking? :) |
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| 06:05.52 | dgriffi | I just reinstalled Wheezy after a hard drive took a dump and found that if I type "iceweasel" when an iceweasel window is already present, I get a complaint that iceweasel is already running. Previously this would have caused another window to open up. What went wrong? |
| 06:07.40 | dgriffi | this happened even after moved .mozilla to .mozilla-bad and had it create a new .mozilla directory |
| 06:07.43 | jpinx | dgriffi: isn't there a preferencesetting within iceweasel to allow more than one instance ? |
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| 06:09.53 | dgriffi | jpinx: that's not what I'm trying to do. I just want to create a new window. |
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| 06:11.36 | dgriffi | there isn't a problem with lockfiles. |
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| 06:22.30 | peterrooney | OK, maybe someone here can answer this one: if 'ifconfig' has been deprecated in favour of 'ip', what combination of arguments (or other command in the iproute package) is expected to provide information about traffic into and out of an interface? |
| 06:24.39 | dgriffi | I thought this problem with Iceweasel not wanting to open additonal windows might be related to running an older version.. upgraded. still won't let me open new windows by simply typing "iceweasel". Anyone have any ideas? |
| 06:28.51 | jpinx | dgriffi: really - click file>open new window |
| 06:30.16 | dgriffi | jpinx: I know THAT works. I want to know why I suddenly can't do this from the command line anymore. |
| 06:30.43 | dgriffi | jpinx: I also want to be able to go off to another VD, press the button, and get a new iceweasel window |
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| 06:33.33 | dgriffi | anyone else? |
| 06:34.49 | dgriffi | not even the -new-window flag helps |
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| 06:35.42 | dgriffi | trying to do "iceweasel -new-tab http://foobar.com" also fails the same way. does anyone here know what's going on? |
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| 06:38.06 | dgriffi | anyone? bueller? |
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| 06:41.49 | dgriffi | is anyone here having a problem with Iceweasel and creating new windows? |
| 06:42.48 | dgriffi | anyone? |
| 06:43.15 | ariqs | dgriffi: I don't nkow what iceweasel even is ;P |
| 06:43.31 | apm1 | its an unbranded version of firefox |
| 06:43.37 | apm1 | packaged by debian |
| 06:43.40 | dgriffi | ariqs: how is it you use debian and not know this? |
| 06:43.46 | rozie | dgriffi: first, tell us what's your version od Debian and Iceweasel |
| 06:44.15 | ariqs | dgriffi: I don't use debian. I just am when weesel goes stable |
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| 06:46.03 | dgriffi | does anyone in here know what I'm talking about? |
| 06:46.30 | dgriffi | it's like bug #501363 suddenly reappeared for not readily apparent reason |
| 06:46.32 | rozie | does. works fine on 19.0.2-1 from experimental |
| 06:46.40 | dgriffi | rozie: that's what I'm using |
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| 06:47.26 | dgriffi | rozie: if you have an iceweasel window open, and you type "iceweasel" in an xterm (or whatever), what happens? |
| 06:47.37 | rozie | and my system is wheezy |
| 06:48.03 | rozie | it starts new, empty window |
| 06:48.31 | dizzylizzy | I will soon be in a position where I will have someone close to me have their computer on the same network as mine. I will be running Debian, they will be running Windows. Where should I start looking if what I"m looking for is either a shared folder or a shared partition where we can, over the network, both read and write files easily to it? |
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| 06:49.18 | rozie | dizzylizzy: smb, samba if windows shared folders are enough |
| 06:49.57 | rozie | dgriffi: and what happens on your system after typing iceweasel in xterm? |
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| 06:51.04 | dgriffi | rozie: I get a modal window that reads "Iceweasel is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Iceweasel process, or restart your system." |
| 06:51.16 | dgriffi | this is extremely frustrating |
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| 06:52.06 | dgriffi | I've never had this happen before. It seems like a bug report on something like this was filed five or so years ago and the bug is still not marked resolved. |
| 06:52.07 | rozie | dgriffi: create new user (system one) and check there |
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| 06:53.18 | IngoPan | Hi, i am a Linux newbie and i´d like to know if someone knows this Amazon book and can tell me if its any good to enter the Linux world: http://t.co/FpTS2DpeeX ? |
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| 06:54.31 | dizzylizzy | rozie, thanks, I'll look into samba |
| 06:54.32 | rozie | dgriffi: I suspect it's iceweasel profile setting problem or system setting problem. if it were package problem, I'd seen the same |
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| 06:55.40 | dizzylizzy | IngoPan, there are so many completely free resources available that I'm not sure it would be worth it. If you want to have a book around to reference, then by all means though. It's probably just fine, though personally i've never been a fan of the "For dummies" series |
| 06:55.46 | dgriffi | rozie: okay, trying with a new user works. |
| 06:56.10 | IngoPan | thanks |
| 06:56.22 | dgriffi | rozie: so I tried moving my .mozilla/ directory somewhere else and start mozilla anew. still the same problem. |
| 06:57.08 | rozie | dgriffi: try another user to eliminate problem on system profile |
| 06:57.14 | dgriffi | I'm not aware of iceweasel keeping any settings anywhere but .mozilla |
| 06:57.20 | dgriffi | rozie: I tried another user. that works. |
| 06:57.44 | rozie | probably does not check lockfile, but process instead |
| 06:57.45 | dgriffi | rozie: you have any ideas on why this persists even when I delete .mozilla/? |
| 06:58.44 | rozie | close all iceweasel/firefox instances |
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| 06:59.17 | rozie | run ps aux | egrep "iceweasel|firefox|www|browser" |
| 06:59.18 | dgriffi | rozie: done |
| 06:59.35 | rozie | any result? |
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| 07:00.03 | dgriffi | rozie: just for that ps and egrep |
| 07:00.57 | rozie | OK, check ps aux output manually, if there's smth which looks like iceweasel or iceweasel runner process |
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| 07:02.00 | dgriffi | nothing obvious |
| 07:03.01 | dgriffi | there are some virtualbox processes hanging around for some reason |
| 07:03.29 | rozie | well, you can always play with strace to see what is the problem |
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| 07:05.02 | dgriffi | rozie: data overload. not helpful |
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| 07:14.58 | dgriffi | okay.. best explaination now is that the failing hard drive bolluxed up something |
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| 07:15.47 | rozie | ;) |
| 07:16.16 | rabbieth | hard drive is just telling you to switch to elinks ;) |
| 07:16.27 | rabbieth | or chromium at least |
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| 07:17.51 | dgriffi | rabbieth: I don't know. I already yanked the dying drive. all this trouble started when I started using the fresh one |
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| 07:18.13 | dgriffi | rabbieth: my guess is that when reading off the dying drive to the new one, something went wrong. |
| 07:19.00 | dgriffi | I have a slightly older backup of /home on an external drive. I'm doing a restore from that to see if I get any satisfaction that way. |
| 07:19.45 | rabbieth | why not just install a fresh new wheezy and copy all the files from /home ? |
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| 07:20.19 | dgriffi | rabbieth: that's what I did. something in the dotfiles (not .mozilla.. tried that already) is messing things up. |
| 07:20.24 | KsM | ere] |
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| 07:20.24 | KsM | 03:12.32 -!- Rhuarc [~Gilgamesh@Kings.Poison] has joined #xSubZer0x |
| 07:20.30 | KsM | oops |
| 07:20.42 | rabbieth | ah, ok |
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| 07:21.27 | KsM | guess it's time to figure out how to turn off two-finger-paste in synclient |
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| 07:23.14 | dgriffi | oh, this is cute... Pentium M chips don't have PAE... |
| 07:24.08 | apm1 | an i486 should have PAE 0.o |
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| 07:41.51 | vlyalcin | can anybody show me result of the cat /var/lib/AccountsService/users/[USER NAME] ([USER NAME] is your system user) |
| 07:43.07 | DeSian | it's possible to remove all installed package via apt-get+ meta-packages? |
| 07:43.11 | rabbieth | doesn't have that file |
| 07:44.54 | rabbieth | btw guys, could you help with a simple iptables question? |
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| 07:45.38 | rabbieth | i have a 'block in quick from <blacklist> to <me>' in /etc/pf.conf on freebsd, where blacklist and me are lists of ipz |
| 07:46.01 | rabbieth | is it possible to implement similar listings in iptables? |
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| 07:49.26 | teus_ | i cant get java working on wheezy. im am outraged |
| 07:49.43 | teus_ | wiki.debian.org/Java is down right now |
| 07:49.49 | teus_ | can somebody link me to a working guide? |
| 07:50.05 | teus_ | i need it in chromium or firefox |
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| 07:53.57 | peterrooney | dpkg: java |
| 07:53.58 | dpkg | Java is a cross-platform C++-like OO language. Sun, now Oracle, has released most of its Java implementation under the GPL as <openjdk>. There are other implementations packaged; for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" systems, Sun's JRE/JDK is in <non-free> (for i386, amd64 only). Ask me about <install java>. See also <java alternatives>, <icedtea>, <java ipv6>, <java-package>. http://wiki.debian.org/Java ##java on irc.freenode.net. |
| 07:56.30 | dgriffi | teus_: you probably want the openjdk-7-jdk package |
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| 07:58.29 | teus_ | ok let me try |
| 07:59.49 | teus_ | dgriffi: does not work |
| 08:00.51 | teus_ | in about:plugins it does not list java |
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| 08:01.36 | codepython777 | I need to run a lean mean debian server in a VM. What should i download? is there a light-weight-debian somewhere? |
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| 08:10.42 | gnarface | codepython777: its light-weight by default |
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| 08:11.18 | gnarface | codepython777: when it gets to the end of the install and asks you what the type of machine is (desktop/mail/web/database, etc) just don't select anything |
| 08:11.47 | gnarface | codepython777: note that then you'll have to add pretty much everything with apt-get/aptitude |
| 08:12.31 | gnarface | codepython777: there will be very little installed by default other than the basic ability to install more stuff ... don't forget to add an ssh server! |
| 08:12.43 | gnarface | (if its remote) |
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| 08:22.45 | rabbieth | gah |
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| 08:22.56 | rabbieth | that idiotic centos is killing me |
| 08:23.07 | cardamon | Is there a way to spit out everything currently installed with apt? |
| 08:23.16 | Nik05 | dpkg -i |
| 08:23.17 | dpkg | Nik05: are you using Windows? |
| 08:23.21 | rabbieth | found out that he have to recompile rsyslog to make it work with relp |
| 08:23.26 | Nik05 | -l |
| 08:24.34 | cardamon | Nik05: closest I found to that is dpkg-query -l |
| 08:24.39 | cardamon | Is that what you meant? |
| 08:24.59 | Nik05 | doesnt dpkg -l work? |
| 08:25.11 | cardamon | No, it just isn't in the man page. |
| 08:25.28 | Nik05 | or aptitude search ~i |
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| 08:25.57 | cardamon | When someone tells me something in here, I immediately go to the relevant man page rather than just throw commands at my prompt with reckless abandon and full permissions. |
| 08:26.49 | Nik05 | you can run it as user |
| 08:26.51 | cardamon | apparently dpkg -l is the same as dpkg-query -l |
| 08:27.04 | cardamon | Nik05: Not the point. But thanks. Got it. |
| 08:27.26 | Nik05 | and it is in the man page... |
| 08:28.06 | cardamon | man dpkg, search for l, and you get the block about it being dpkg-query. |
| 08:28.15 | cardamon | sorry, -l |
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| 08:29.00 | Nik05 | so whats the problem? :s |
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| 08:42.51 | tekzilla | are there tools to add binaries to the default initramfs creation process ? i mean like generating a hookscript or something |
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| 08:43.28 | Nik05 | initramfs-tools? |
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| 08:46.19 | w|t | hi, whenever i run apt-get install * i get this error: |
| 08:46.22 | w|t | http://pastebin.com/ygL8A3dw |
| 08:46.24 | w|t | any ideas? |
| 08:46.39 | tekzilla | thats whats actually running the hook-scripts i think |
| 08:47.32 | w|t | this happens after i dist-upgraded from squeeze to wheezy |
| 08:48.15 | tekzilla | w|t: no idea what install-info is, but maybe remove it with dpkg --force-all and reinstall it manually from wheezy ? |
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| 08:49.14 | w|t | ok, also i get this when i run install-info: This is not dpkg install-info anymore, but GNU install-info |
| 08:49.21 | truexfan81 | i'm not familiar with the --force-all option, for removing i normally use dpkg -r |
| 08:49.54 | tekzilla | yeah i mean -r in combination with --force-all |
| 08:50.00 | truexfan81 | ah ok |
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| 08:51.43 | tekzilla | install-info seems to be some man-like system for docs in the .info format (thats what the package desc says) |
| 08:51.45 | w|t | how would i reinstall it manually? i try dpkg -i pkgname and it gives this: cannot access archive: No such file or directory |
| 08:51.48 | tekzilla | so it seems safe to kill and reinstall it |
| 08:52.17 | truexfan81 | w|t: sudo dpkg -r install-info |
| 08:52.25 | w|t | i already uninstalled it |
| 08:52.30 | truexfan81 | oh |
| 08:52.41 | w|t | (and info, as well) |
| 08:53.05 | truexfan81 | sudo apt-get update, and then see if you can install it using apt-get now |
| 08:54.50 | w|t | truexfan81: hmm... i get this error msg now http://pastebin.com/rACnNjFT |
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| 08:56.29 | truexfan81 | did apt-get pull that deb file from the wheezy repos? |
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| 08:57.31 | w|t | i'm not sure |
| 08:57.38 | w|t | also i see something here http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=112444 |
| 08:57.57 | truexfan81 | i just tried to install it, says its already the latest version |
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| 08:58.17 | w|t | i get this now, http://pastebin.com/tPHyxaWM |
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| 08:58.39 | w|t | fix-broken doesn't work though |
| 08:58.45 | truexfan81 | so it seems like its conflicting with something else, this is why using terminal to upgrade to a new os version is not recommended |
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| 08:59.27 | w|t | oh |
| 08:59.35 | w|t | do you recon that i reinstall? |
| 08:59.38 | w|t | :S |
| 09:00.23 | truexfan81 | would suggest a clean install of wheezy, just backup your home folder including the hidden directories, all your program settings will be in there |
| 09:01.31 | w|t | ok, thanks |
| 09:02.04 | w|t | i have a question about releases though. if i download the current version of wheezy, is that the stable or testing branch? |
| 09:02.12 | w|t | does it remain the testing branch? |
| 09:02.33 | truexfan81 | its testing, but i haven't had it break yet |
| 09:03.01 | truexfan81 | if you want even more cutting edge they have an unstable edition :) |
| 09:03.28 | w|t | i want to always stay with the testing branch though; i'm just curious to whether when the "official" wheezy comes out, whether my system is testing or stable |
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| 09:03.36 | w|t | yeah, i think sid is a little too risky for me |
| 09:03.53 | truexfan81 | yep i'm using wheezy and am quite happy with it |
| 09:03.56 | w|t | i just want to stay in the testing branch, not necessarily wheezy |
| 09:04.18 | w|t | so when the official wheezy is released, all wheezies will be stable branch? |
| 09:04.29 | truexfan81 | probably |
| 09:04.45 | Nik05 | you want to go for testing? |
| 09:04.50 | codygman | What's the best way to make my function keys work? "Media" I think they're called? Xmodmap perhaps? Will that work in terminal only mode (I know that's not the correct name :S) |
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| 09:04.51 | w|t | yes |
| 09:04.51 | BenNZ | w|t: if your sources list say wheezy then yes , but if it says testing then its testing |
| 09:05.08 | truexfan81 | ^ |
| 09:05.18 | w|t | i see. so right now, wheezy is an alias to testing? |
| 09:05.24 | w|t | but later on it will be an alias to stable? |
| 09:05.33 | Nik05 | yes |
| 09:06.19 | w|t | ok, thanks for the clarification guys :-) |
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| 09:23.25 | sianios | morning guys for 1 hour i've been trying to install wine on my debian wheezy, i tried to access the official website but i get error 500:internal error, when i installed it on my laptop the package was about 50mb but on my computer is about 1mb and i cant see it :/ any helpful ideas? |
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| 09:26.25 | babilen | judd: v wine --arch amd64 |
| 09:26.27 | judd | Package: wine on amd64 -- squeeze: 1.0.1-3.1; sid: 1.4.1-4; wheezy: 1.4.1-4 |
| 09:26.30 | babilen | judd: v wine-unstable --arch amd64 |
| 09:26.31 | judd | Package: wine-unstable on amd64 -- sid: 1.5.6-2 |
| 09:26.38 | babilen | sianios: Just install it ^^^ |
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| 09:27.52 | sianios | thank you! |
| 09:28.23 | w|t | nice bot :D |
| 09:28.55 | babilen | sianios: You can install 1.4.1 easily with "apt-get install wine" (if that doesn't work paste your sources.list and the output of "apt-cache policy wine"). If you really need the version in unstable (1.5.6) the best way to install it depends on your plans and the way your system is configured. Do you plan to run testing or stay with wheezy after its release? |
| 09:29.10 | babilen | w|t: http://ircbots.debian.net/judd/ |
| 09:29.25 | truexfan81 | is there any way i can get the e17 window-decorator/compositor on debian wheezy? i'd like to use it with xfce (xfce compositor is sad) |
| 09:29.26 | babilen | w|t: knock yourself out :) |
| 09:29.32 | babilen | (/msg judd foo) |
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| 09:30.32 | w|t | ok :P |
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| 09:39.27 | schmodd | hi, is it possible to give parameters to 2 several programs in one command (where the 2 program is a parameter of the 1 program)? -> "livestreamer twitch.tv/blachannel best -np omxplayer --adev hdmi" |
| 09:40.17 | schmodd | so this "--adev hdmi" belongs to omxplayer but the way its written above it is mentioned beeing a parameter of livestreamer - is there a way to solve this ? |
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| 09:46.39 | Bing01 | #flood |
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| 10:09.15 | no_gravity | Good Morning! When I ssh into a machine and go into screen, it seems I have no way to scroll around the bash buffer anymore. Mousewheel then toggles through the bash history, screen-up/down keys print ~ and shift+screen-up/down does nothing. Any ideas? |
| 10:09.36 | truexfan81 | is installing e17 deps, getting ready to compile e17 on wheezy |
| 10:10.22 | truexfan81 | no_gravity: i have seen that before, never found a fix for it |
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| 10:11.19 | pacosani | hey fix ipv6 |
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| 10:13.53 | Dewi | no_gravity: ctrl-a, esc to go into scrollback mode |
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| 10:14.50 | Dewi | no_gravity: it's sort of vim-like, you can copy blocks, esc to get out of that mode |
| 10:15.00 | no_gravity | Dewi: pageup in copymode sometimes goes up one row and sometimes one page. |
| 10:15.29 | no_gravity | Dewi: that confuses me. Why dont screen implement the usual pageup behaviour? |
| 10:15.33 | Dewi | it goes 1 row when changing direction |
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| 10:15.40 | Dewi | because the cursor is moving up 1 screen |
| 10:15.52 | no_gravity | changing direction? |
| 10:16.14 | Dewi | page up moves the cursor, not the scroll viewport, and generally your cursor starts at the bottom row |
| 10:16.24 | Dewi | so going up 1 screen = 1 row above the top |
| 10:16.48 | no_gravity | hmm... too complicated. Then I prefer workaround like pipe stuff into less or use vim for directory browsing instead of ls. |
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| 10:16.51 | Dewi | and after that, 1 screen is a whole screen because your cursor is already at the top |
| 10:17.50 | Dewi | well, I don't know any other way to operate the scrollback modfe |
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| 10:19.16 | lapache | Hello, could someon help me to install wheezy dom0 from debootstrap minbase ? |
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| 10:19.40 | jalalsfs | I use Xfce on Debian testing, but I have one issue with "Keyboard Layouts" I have two languages "English and Arabic", I can change layout with Alt+Shift in the left side, but the Alt+Shift in the right side, I can change it to Arabic, but to English I cannot, |
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| 10:26.33 | tryagain | schmodd i would try to write your example as livestreamer twitch.tv/blachannel best -np 'omxplayer --adev hdmi' |
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| 10:40.45 | schmodd | will try that |
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| 10:41.50 | schmodd | works, perfect thx man |
| 10:42.05 | petn-randall | jalalsfs: I don't know, but maybe the arabic keyboard has the right alt key defined as something else (e.g. AltGr)? |
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| 10:43.44 | jalalsfs | petn-randall, Which program can let me change the definition of right alt? |
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| 10:45.56 | petn-randall | jalalsfs: maybe there's another keyboard variation, where it's not the case? |
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| 10:46.41 | petn-randall | jalalsfs: btw, we've just recently opened #debian-ar, maybe they've already ran into the problem and found a solution :) |
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| 10:47.48 | jalalsfs | petn-randall, Okay thank you so much. |
| 10:48.05 | petn-randall | jalalsfs: you're welcome! |
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| 10:57.47 | lapache | Do you have an idea resolve this : http://pastebin.com/M3XMrikR |
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| 11:06.12 | WilliamWS | hi |
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| 11:06.18 | ParkerR | Hello |
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| 11:06.55 | WilliamWS | I do not know if this is a bug, but... if you use the therm "c++" on apt-get it do not return as expected |
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| 11:08.26 | WilliamWS | c++ is recognized as a command and scrwup apt easy |
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| 11:09.00 | ParkerR | WilliamWS, c++ is provided by the g++ package |
| 11:09.34 | sianios | what command can i use to delete a folder with a lock icon? |
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| 11:10.32 | WilliamWS | sianios, you need to be root to play with them |
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| 11:11.16 | WilliamWS | Parker I know, but if I issue apt-get isntall c++ for example it does not try to isntall c++ it returnas a lot of text |
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| 11:12.19 | ParkerR | WilliamWS, Because c++ is not a package |
| 11:12.24 | ParkerR | apt-get install g++ |
| 11:12.35 | WilliamWS | I know but libstdc++ is a package |
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| 11:13.05 | ParkerR | sianios, lock is usally owned by root. sudo rm -r foldername can remove it |
| 11:13.18 | WilliamWS | and if I try to install or remove libstdc++ with g++ installed it does not do what you expect |
| 11:13.36 | ParkerR | What do I expect? |
| 11:13.43 | ParkerR | What should one expect? |
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| 11:14.51 | WilliamWS | libstdc++ installed? |
| 11:15.07 | WilliamWS | Id does not install libc++ because of the "c++" in the name |
| 11:15.09 | ompaul | WilliamWS: apt-get install build-essential (if you want the various libs and so forth) |
| 11:15.31 | ompaul | WilliamWS: to dig deeper apt-cache show build-essential |
| 11:15.56 | WilliamWS | I only wanted to issue apt-get isntall libstdc++, but it does not work. because of the "c++' in the name. |
| 11:16.12 | Edisto | what is the msot stable alternate desktop... other than gnome and kde that has decent ammount of packages? |
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| 11:16.30 | WilliamWS | I was forced to remove g++ before I could issue libstdc++ |
| 11:16.42 | WilliamWS | apt-get install libstdc++* |
| 11:16.55 | ParkerR | WilliamWS, No it doesnt install libc++ because no package exists https://www.google.com/search?q=libc++%20debian |
| 11:17.04 | olivier | !dpkg upgrade kernel |
| 11:17.11 | ParkerR | Only source in experimental |
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| 11:17.17 | WilliamWS | libstdc++ not libc++ |
| 11:17.25 | sianios | I used command rm -rf DIRNAME as root and worked, thanks |
| 11:18.16 | WilliamWS | sianios, avoid using -rf, use -r isntead. f means force and it will remove everything, it can be a problem if you are not interested on removing really everything on the folder, path |
| 11:18.40 | ParkerR | WilliamWS, Ok then libstdc++ and g++ must both provide some file that is the same. Choose one or the other |
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| 11:19.34 | sianios | oh, i didn't know that |
| 11:20.11 | subthalamus | gooday |
| 11:20.39 | ParkerR | Edisto, XFCE, LXDE |
| 11:20.43 | subthalamus | should my linux mint debian edition be able to install root on btrfs? |
| 11:20.45 | WilliamWS | ParkerR the problem is not installing the lib, I already did it. But I see this as a problem. You can not write nothing with "c++" in the name as apt-get arguments or it will execute c++. |
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| 11:21.14 | subthalamus | it seems stuck at creation des index de fichiers |
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| 11:21.39 | subthalamus | didn't ask it to French either but I don't care about that |
| 11:21.49 | ParkerR | WilliamWS, It doesnt execute c++ |
| 11:22.17 | ParkerR | Is just a crap ton of dependencies scrolling past |
| 11:22.20 | ParkerR | *It's |
| 11:22.50 | WilliamWS | dependencies, of...? |
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| 11:23.09 | ParkerR | The package or the regex that it closest matches |
| 11:24.17 | WilliamWS | apt-get is meant to do that? |
| 11:24.33 | ksuhku | !tell subthalamus about mint |
| 11:24.34 | ParkerR | Yes |
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| 11:24.55 | WilliamWS | oh, ok, thank you. |
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| 11:42.23 | bitonic | is there a way to have AltGr to produce grave accents instead of acute? |
| 11:42.38 | Nik05 | ` |
| 11:42.43 | Nik05 | ho |
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| 11:42.57 | bitonic | Nik05: no I mean without having to press Shift+AltGr first |
| 11:43.11 | Nik05 | á or à ? |
| 11:43.17 | Nik05 | no idea how i just did that :P |
| 11:43.19 | bitonic | Ã |
| 11:43.32 | Nik05 | i press Alt + ` |
| 11:43.42 | bitonic | I mean to get à I need to press ‘Shift+AltGr a `’ |
| 11:43.42 | Nik05 | which gives me à :S |
| 11:43.50 | bitonic | oh. it doesn’t for me. |
| 11:44.08 | icedwater | Did you set up a compose key? |
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| 11:44.25 | bitonic | icedwater: yes, AltGr |
| 11:44.26 | icedwater | Assuming you're using GNOME or some similar keyboard manager... |
| 11:44.29 | Nik05 | my alt key is doing weird stuff |
| 11:44.35 | bitonic | this is what I have ‘setxkbmap gb -variant colemak -option compose:altgr’ |
| 11:44.45 | bitonic | icedwater: nah I’m just using setxkbmap |
| 11:44.47 | icedwater | Hmm, mine does à in 3 steps, Menu, a, ` |
| 11:44.49 | subthalamus | bitonic: have u ever tried using international keyboard instead? |
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| 11:45.28 | bitonic | subthalamus: what do you mean? |
| 11:45.36 | icedwater | Ah, OK. Well firstly, I'm using a US keyboard. And qwerty standard. But if the compose option does what I think it does, then it shouldn't even need the Shift, right, bitonic? |
| 11:45.42 | Nik05 | where do i find what kind of map i use? This is really weird. Alt + I is é |
| 11:45.57 | subthalamus | 'a for instance á |
| 11:46.00 | icedwater | Nik05: is it right Alt or left Alt? |
| 11:46.04 | Nik05 | both |
| 11:46.09 | icedwater | Right-Alt might be AltGr sometimes. Ooh |
| 11:46.11 | bitonic | icedwater: no I don’t think it works that way |
| 11:46.15 | subthalamus | `a à |
| 11:46.25 | Nik05 | my right Alt does say Alt Gr but does the same thing |
| 11:47.19 | Nik05 | wow Alt+Enter gives me fullscreen |
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| 11:47.42 | icedwater | How should it work, then? |
| 11:48.00 | EmleyMoor | AltGr is used for typing the bottom right characters normally - like | and € on a British keyboard |
| 11:48.03 | icedwater | bitonic: I don't know about colemak, to be honest, but compose key should only be pressed once, without any modifiers. |
| 11:48.46 | EmleyMoor | I use Right Win on my desktop, Right Ctrl on my laptop as Compose |
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| 11:50.45 | Towzzer | hello debian |
| 11:50.58 | icedwater | Yes, EmleyMoor, and my point was that you shouldn't need any other keypresses. Just Compose+<part1>+<part2> |
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| 11:52.38 | EmleyMoor | Indeed - ĉ |
| 11:52.50 | EmleyMoor | Compose, Shift-6, c |
| 11:53.12 | ompaul | á is Gaelic, so I can see it being associated with the UK keyboard, given that language is used over the north border and so forth |
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| 11:55.08 | icedwater | ompaul: I suppose, but I am not sure á is on the UK keyboard anyway. Let me check the map... |
| 11:56.49 | ompaul | regrets the lack of a wiki for the next three or so hours |
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| 11:57.07 | digdilem | it's not |
| 11:57.23 | icedwater | YE, yk Lblkgl U chakdfs gy ghf Cyifmae efjbyaps. LE, gyy. |
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| 11:57.29 | HS^ | hi |
| 11:57.39 | EmleyMoor | Ã is... AltGr-a |
| 11:57.40 | icedwater | OK, on Ubuntu I changed to the Colemak keyboard. UK, too. |
| 11:57.43 | icedwater | ;) |
| 11:58.01 | HS^ | im trying to send a mail via php but it comes from 'info@debian' instead of 'info@domain.com' what could this be? |
| 11:58.02 | EmleyMoor | But á is not necessarily readily available. |
| 11:58.18 | ompaul | EmleyMoor: I thought I had mine set to uk maybe .ie |
| 11:58.19 | icedwater | Also, on Ubuntu's Colemak UK layout I can press Right-Alt and a for á |
| 11:58.28 | Towzzer | what mail server |
| 11:58.34 | HS^ | sendmail |
| 11:58.45 | Towzzer | what's the hostname on the server |
| 11:58.48 | EmleyMoor | There is an International variant... |
| 11:58.56 | Towzzer | cat /etc/hostname |
| 11:59.03 | HS^ | linvps |
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| 11:59.27 | HS^ | i have the same settings of /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts in 2 different servers |
| 11:59.28 | petn-randall | HS^: /etc/mailname? |
| 11:59.35 | HS^ | but in my new one it doesnt work |
| 11:59.37 | EmleyMoor | That may have it, but not sure where. An Irish keyboard may well have it. |
| 11:59.47 | HS^ | petn-randall ahhh |
| 11:59.49 | HS^ | there it is |
| 11:59.49 | Towzzer | HS - I might recommend you use postfix or exim also |
| 11:59.50 | ompaul | EmleyMoor: it would want to ;-) |
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| 12:00.05 | HS^ | very confusing all these configs hidden everywhere |
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| 12:00.25 | HS^ | can i remove /etc/mailname? |
| 12:00.32 | HS^ | the old server doesnt have it |
| 12:01.05 | petn-randall | HS^: man mailname, also check with sendmail if it needs it. |
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| 12:03.16 | HS^ | hmm i remove the file and restarted sendmail, and it still comes with the old name |
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| 12:04.22 | albakry | Hello everyone, Please I need to know the exact number of scientific/engineering packages under Debian |
| 12:04.32 | Towzzer | what folder is the sendmail configuration in? |
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| 12:05.40 | HS^ | etc/mail |
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| 12:06.38 | Towzzer | find /etc/mail/ -exec grep 'debian' {} \; |
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| 12:07.15 | somethinginteres | albakry: count packages on http://packages.debian.org/stable/electronics/ and http://packages.debian.org/stable/science ? |
| 12:08.00 | HS^ | ah this looks like it : MASQUERADE_AS(`debian')dnl |
| 12:08.04 | HS^ | thanks |
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| 12:08.45 | Towzzer | that's my lazy trick to find whatever is causing something in code |
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| 12:11.31 | bitonic | icedwater: OK, thanks. still, the ideal thing would be just AltGr-a to get à |
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| 12:13.37 | ompaul | albakry: when you say engineering there is also a lot of software engineering and so forth - you'd be better off finding what you want by apt-cache search |
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| 12:14.12 | icedwater | bitonic: Hmm, I'll tell you if I ever log back into my debian box and poke around there. |
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| 12:23.31 | M-16 | i was trying to install debian whhezy using netinstall cd image but at the time to configure the network it was unable to configure dhcp. I was told that was because of missing firmare and to use this one (http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/wheezy_di_rc1/i386/iso-cd/firmware-wheezy-DI-rc1-i386-netinst.iso) but it gives the same error: "unable to configure dhcp" |
| 12:24.03 | M-16 | on the same pc in the past have installed etch, lenny and squeeze and with all the network configuration worked |
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| 12:24.16 | M-16 | any idea? |
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| 12:29.45 | Towzzer | can you try |
| 12:29.45 | Towzzer | dhclient -v |
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| 12:29.48 | ompaul | M-16: yesterday you said you were going to try another distro to see if it works, am I to take it that it didn't? you told us it was a vt6102 via rhine-III card - these have been around since the dawn of time |
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| 12:29.53 | ompaul | M-16: can I take it nothing changed since yesterday? |
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| 12:30.26 | M-16 | ompaul, i tried a live cd of other distro and it works, i also tried the netinst cd that you told me and it doesn't work |
| 12:32.03 | Towzzer | have you tried mint? |
| 12:32.14 | Towzzer | they don't have political views, firmware is included |
| 12:32.59 | ompaul | Towzzer: as long as you are going to be in #mint to provide 24/7 help that's a good suggestion ;-) |
| 12:33.21 | ompaul | M-16: what happens if you type ifconfig -a on that box |
| 12:33.32 | Towzzer | didn't you ask him if he tried other distros |
| 12:33.33 | ompaul | M-16: with wheezy |
| 12:33.47 | ompaul | I did but he's not been very forthcoming about what it was ;-) |
| 12:34.07 | Towzzer | m-16 - type "dhclient -v" |
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| 12:35.57 | Towzzer | why does he not respond : ( |
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| 12:36.10 | raptor67782 | hi |
| 12:36.15 | Towzzer | hi t-rex |
| 12:36.34 | raptor67782 | would you konw a panel (taskbar) that is into ascii ? a sort of conky for the taskbar |
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| 12:42.32 | raptor67782 | what is the taskbar here? http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linux/articles/124885.aspx# |
| 12:42.40 | raptor67782 | or might be |
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| 12:48.23 | M-16 | ompaul, how i can do that during installation process? |
| 12:48.52 | M-16 | Towzzer, i'm running squueze from hard drive at the moment |
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| 12:49.18 | petn-randall | M-16: why don't you just upgrade? |
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| 12:54.34 | M-16 | petn-randall, i would like a fresh install. Also i tried to upgrade (reading wheezy release notes first). Aptitude upgrade keeps resolving dependancies forever and dist-upgrade propose me to remove a lut of packages and leave others to old version |
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| 12:57.46 | max2_random1 | hi |
| 12:58.55 | seafax | hey ;) |
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| 13:03.51 | Soru | Good morning |
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| 13:04.36 | format_c | morning |
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| 13:05.01 | somethinginteres | how can I get discs - DVDs etc to automount on insertion? |
| 13:05.26 | format_c | I would say "good afternoon" |
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| 13:07.58 | Soru | 14:04 here, I've just wake up haha |
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| 13:11.02 | format_c | Soru, that's a good time to wake up on a Sunday "morning" ;-) |
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| 13:16.01 | dsirijus | um, how can i downgrade libssl1.0.0 to 0.9.8 in 7.0rc1? |
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| 13:18.15 | jelly-home | dsirijus: you can't. What's your goal? |
| 13:18.36 | dsirijus | jelly-home: ease of installation of some other major package |
| 13:18.43 | dsirijus | haxe nme, if relevant |
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| 13:19.36 | dsirijus | tried to fool it with some symlinks, didn't work |
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| 13:21.28 | boudiccas | How do I find out what desktop I'm running, i.e., marco, openbox, metacity, or what, please? |
| 13:22.33 | jelly-home | dsirijus: which package in particular, and where does it come from? |
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| 13:24.43 | dsirijus | jelly-home, it's a custom installer script that's supposed to do everything, from nme.io site |
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| 13:25.33 | file-exists-p | With debian 6.0.7, I get the X server strangely locked when coming back from suspend with "EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop." in xdm.log |
| 13:25.36 | file-exists-p | any idea ? |
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| 13:28.36 | jelly-home | dsirijus: that's one ugly script. You could set up a squeeze chroot and run it inside that. |
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| 13:29.36 | dsirijus | jelly-home: actually, you're the third person to suggest that. sounds fugly |
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| 13:35.31 | jelly-home | that installer is fugly, so it fits |
| 13:36.36 | jelly-home | dsirijus: if you don't plan to do anything else with this installation, you might add back squeeze sources.list and install libssl0.9.8 from there. |
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| 13:36.53 | sterNiX | hi, is it possible just to refresh one part of a shell, like say a box, and not touch the other parts, using a shell script? |
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| 13:37.00 | jelly-home | (ie. if nme is the primary thing to be run) |
| 13:37.07 | pianino | Hello! Is there something wrong with wiki.debian ? |
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| 13:39.21 | dsirijus | jelly-home: i just extracted .so's from 0.9.8 deb, put it somewhere and symlinked to /usr/lib |
| 13:39.32 | dsirijus | and it worked (or at least no more error messages) |
| 13:39.34 | dokma | petn-randall: for some reason lvm doesn't come up right in initrd |
| 13:39.51 | dokma | and it can't access the lv on the raid array |
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| 13:42.50 | pumtrix | anyway |
| 13:43.05 | pumtrix | I'm getting this error. |
| 13:43.05 | pumtrix | [....] Starting advanced IEEE 802.11 management: hostapdSegmentation fault |
| 13:43.05 | pumtrix | failed! |
| 13:43.09 | ompaul | M-16: this is how you do the upgrade - apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade that will replace all old packages with new removing old cruft you no longer use |
| 13:43.20 | pumtrix | when Im trying to boot up hostapd. |
| 13:43.37 | pumtrix | can anyone shed any light? |
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| 13:43.47 | ompaul | M-16: if you have databases they must be backed up first and you need to apply changes in according to the process outlined |
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| 13:44.47 | ompaul | M-16: caution should prevail but you must remove old stuff that is no longer needed - if you didn't dist-upgrade correctly from etch -> lenny -> squeeze correctly then all bets are off |
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| 13:46.35 | M-16 | ompaul, this squeeze is a fresh installation and shouldn't be aptitud better than apt-get in this case? |
| 13:46.56 | ompaul | M-16: for the dist-upgrade they should just do the job |
| 13:47.38 | ompaul | as for better - I don't buy that argument - I have been running sid for years as my desktop and I run apt-get outside of X all the time - |
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| 13:49.10 | ompaul | M-16: similar activities yes, as for resolving dependencies I feel that adds little value in a dist-upgrade, those are my thoughts, you may and can indeed differ in your opinion |
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| 13:51.03 | mr_claus | is it possible to get a user defined repository with apt-cacher-ng? i always get an error "network is unreachable" |
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| 13:56.34 | mr_claus | forget it, my fault |
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| 13:59.59 | jsonlee | a quick question. is there any vim plugin that can detect code change on the fly? |
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| 14:00.32 | Towzzer | :set autoread |
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| 14:01.35 | spaceone | hi |
| 14:01.36 | Towzzer | hi |
| 14:01.42 | spaceone | i have a debian squeeze |
| 14:01.54 | spaceone | and want to add testing repos |
| 14:02.05 | spaceone | i saw that testing == wheezy |
| 14:02.16 | spaceone | so i need a apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 14:02.24 | ompaul | spaceone: eh no you want to upgrade to it, or stay you don't have both |
| 14:02.45 | ompaul | spaceone: before you do. do this, apt-get update |
| 14:02.51 | spaceone | ompaul: of course |
| 14:02.59 | ompaul | apt-get upgrade and get your existing up to date |
| 14:03.07 | spaceone | i know |
| 14:03.29 | spaceone | i did not know that 'testing' 'stable' are only names for the latest releases |
| 14:03.39 | ompaul | not really |
| 14:03.44 | ompaul | stable is the latest release |
| 14:03.48 | spaceone | i thought it would be the same as main non-free etc |
| 14:03.50 | ompaul | testing is the version after next |
| 14:03.53 | ompaul | sorry |
| 14:03.57 | ompaul | testing is the version after stable |
| 14:03.59 | spaceone | yes |
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| 14:04.24 | spaceone | ompaul: ok, i can safely do a update && dist-upgrade on my server? |
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| 14:04.33 | spaceone | or are there things which i need to do before |
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| 14:04.52 | ompaul | names are applied to them so you had etch -> lenny -> squeeze -> *wheezy -> ** jessie * is known as testing and ** has not started yet, won't until wheezy is stable |
| 14:04.59 | ompaul | spaceone: there are things |
| 14:05.02 | ompaul | !upgrade |
| 14:05.03 | dpkg | it has been said that upgrade is what keeps your box from getting r00ted, or what you do with aptitude. Do an aptitude update first, and then an aptitude upgrade. Ask me about <security>. If you upgrade to a new stable version of Debian, read its release notes first. Ask me about <etch->lenny> <lenny->squeeze>. |
| 14:05.33 | ompaul | someone remind me of the upgrade to wheezy factoid please |
| 14:05.59 | ompaul | spaceone: ^^ the answer to that will give you the docs you want - be aware that the wiki has been down for several hours due back in about an hour or so |
| 14:06.39 | tremon | !squeeze->wheezy |
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| 14:07.28 | ompaul | spaceone: so do this /msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy |
| 14:07.41 | spaceone | done |
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| 14:08.12 | ompaul | spaceone: it should be good unless you stuck all sorts of outside stuff in there |
| 14:08.16 | spaceone | hmm |
| 14:08.25 | ompaul | spaceone: and rule 42 make sure you have backups |
| 14:08.39 | spaceone | it only tells me to remove squeeze from sources.list and do update && dist-upgrade |
| 14:09.08 | ompaul | spaceone: so there are no gotchas - if you have a database make sure you have a backup |
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| 14:10.16 | spaceone | ompaul: oh, i have a mail server and a mysql db |
| 14:10.40 | spaceone | ompaul: btw. am i required to restart after dist-upgrade? |
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| 14:10.48 | jmd | When I reboot, I find that something has messed with /etc/resolv.conf how can I stop this happening? |
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| 14:11.35 | jsonlee | ' |
| 14:11.57 | ompaul | spaceone: yes, how else does the kernel get updated |
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| 14:12.19 | ompaul | spaceone: I'd advise stopping postgresql and mysqldb during the upgrade |
| 14:12.22 | Fire-Dragon-DoL | Hi everyone! |
| 14:12.31 | ompaul | spaceone: and let me say it again, backups |
| 14:12.32 | debinux | hello, debian developer, are here somebody of the release team? i want to ask, is there a roadmap for the release? i plan a releaseparty and want to know if there is a date for the release. or how long before it is written to identi.ca? |
| 14:12.46 | spaceone | ompaul: ok, i will definetly do some backups |
| 14:12.47 | spaceone | :D |
| 14:12.53 | ompaul | !release date |
| 14:12.53 | dpkg | Debian does not release based on dates, it is released when there are no <release critical> bugs. See also <release history>. |
| 14:13.06 | ompaul | debinux: it should be soon |
| 14:13.08 | spaceone | i jsut wanted to have python2.7... i am required to dist-upgrade :( |
| 14:13.12 | ompaul | a few weeks away |
| 14:13.17 | ompaul | or less |
| 14:13.22 | ompaul | some people think next weekend |
| 14:13.32 | ompaul | others before or after it |
| 14:13.39 | debinux | dpkg: i know. but there are 66 bugs left. i am interested, next weekend or later? because i need to invite the people early enough |
| 14:13.59 | Towzzer | you are having a release party? |
| 14:14.06 | debinux | a small |
| 14:14.10 | Towzzer | that's hard core :D |
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| 14:15.41 | jmd | ompaul: Debian already has a "date" command, to show the date. Normall users cannot change the date of course. Only superusers can do that. |
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| 14:16.07 | deepy | You should use ddate instead of date |
| 14:16.15 | debinux | on squeeze the release date was shown one week before the release at identi.ca |
| 14:16.31 | debinux | would there be a notice 7 days before again? |
| 14:16.33 | jmd | For consistency then there should be a "bugs" command to show the outstanding number of bugs and, if superuser to increase or decrease the it. |
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| 14:20.48 | jhutchins_wk | From observations of developers and administrators at work, I'd say 95% of smartphone users really don't care about OS politics. Of the remaining 5%, 4 only care about Android vs. iOS. |
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| 14:22.01 | jhutchins_wk | Exctly NONE care whether Android is Linux, and no-one is forming opinions of Linux based on Android. |
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| 14:29.24 | dokma | initrd can't access lv on raid |
| 14:29.39 | dokma | it assembles the array alright but then cannot access the lv |
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| 14:30.06 | dokma | http://www.evorion.hr/menu.jpg, http://www.evorion.hr/boot.jpg |
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| 14:30.18 | Vampire0 | Hi there, I have a quick question. I have the sources of a debian package (apt-get source <package>) and am able to build it with "debian/rules build". But if I change something and run "debian/rules build" again it just tells me that nothing is to do for "build". Is there a way to tell it that something is to be done besides calling "debian/rules clean build" which takes ages to finish, just because on |
| 14:30.18 | Vampire0 | e changed source file |
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| 14:31.33 | ghost75 | somebody here uses kvm/qemu under wheezy? |
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| 14:38.48 | tremon | dokma: there's nothing there to suggest your initrd even has lvm support. Use a livecd or other rescue mode and regenerate your initramfs |
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| 14:39.39 | dokma | tremon: I've regenerated initrd dozens of times |
| 14:39.53 | dokma | I've even done a aptitude reinstal linux-image from a chroot |
| 14:40.12 | dokma | added lvm to a preload in /etc/default/grub |
| 14:40.31 | dokma | updated initramfs over and over again |
| 14:40.38 | dokma | and every time I ended up at the same place |
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| 14:40.59 | tremon | then something is either not detecting the need for lvm at generation time, or its setup isn't triggering during boot |
| 14:41.10 | tremon | forget about grub, it has nothing to do with it |
| 14:41.18 | dawud | ghost75: yes |
| 14:41.26 | dokma | I have the same feeling |
| 14:41.31 | dokma | but can't pinpoint it |
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| 14:42.10 | tremon | you can type lvs (or pvs) in the initramfs shell to see if the necessary tools are there |
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| 14:42.30 | dokma | tremon: it does see the volume |
| 14:42.33 | dokma | but cannot mount it |
| 14:42.55 | dokma | when I try mount -t ext4 /dev/mapper/vgmain-root /tmp/mnt |
| 14:43.00 | dokma | it says no such device |
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| 14:43.16 | tremon | which volume? I don't see anything like "succesfully activated volume vgmain", do you? |
| 14:43.29 | dokma | no I don't |
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| 14:43.44 | dokma | I've activated it manually from the initramfs prompt |
| 14:43.50 | dokma | with vgchange -ay |
| 14:44.05 | dokma | then it says that the volume is active |
| 14:44.07 | tremon | your screenshot doesn't include that |
| 14:44.11 | dokma | but still cannot mount it |
| 14:44.16 | dokma | I know |
| 14:44.18 | tremon | ok, try modprobe ext4 |
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| 14:44.47 | dokma | I've already deleted the volume... it's been 24 hours of messing with it |
| 14:44.59 | dokma | but I can try it all over again.... |
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| 14:50.09 | petn-randall | ghost75: unless you're doing a survey, it's best to simply ask your question and give enough details around the problem for us to understand it. |
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| 14:50.47 | Guest8888 | i got a problem with USB. DMESG: http://pastebin.com/hkY2SwFr |
| 14:51.18 | Guest8888 | No matter what i plug it doesnt work. |
| 14:51.48 | Towzzer | your cpu is on fire! |
| 14:51.53 | Guest8888 | mine? |
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| 14:52.25 | ompaul | yes |
| 14:52.25 | petn-randall | Guest8888: your system is overheating so much, that your CPU is throttling. |
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| 14:52.46 | ompaul | Guest8888: your fan for cooling your cpu may be broken |
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| 14:52.58 | ompaul | Guest8888: if not a fan then some other cooling method |
| 14:53.02 | Guest8888 | okay. But my current aim is to fix the USB |
| 14:53.14 | Towzzer | guest - this appears to be a bug that was fixed in 3.4 |
| 14:53.22 | Towzzer | http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.usb.general/59992 |
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| 14:54.06 | Guest8888 | So... how do i fix it? |
| 14:54.23 | Towzzer | how good are you at linux |
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| 14:54.49 | Guest8888 | Actualy i am a advanced server admin. But i am not in the mood to chew any hard information |
| 14:55.13 | Towzzer | if (!room_on_ring(xhci, ep_ring, num_trbs)) { |
| 14:55.13 | Towzzer | -/* FIXME allocate more room */ |
| 14:55.13 | Towzzer | -xhci_err(xhci, "ERROR no room on ep ring\n"); |
| 14:55.13 | Towzzer | -return -ENOMEM; |
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| 14:55.14 | impl | squints |
| 14:55.25 | abec0 | Guest8888: acpi -t|grep Thermal would give you an idea of the temperature... |
| 14:55.30 | Towzzer | maybe upgrade to the latest kernel, it was fixed in 3.4 |
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| 14:55.43 | Guest8888 | So... how do i upgrade to it on stable debian? |
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| 14:55.55 | petn-randall | Towzzer: you should know by now that pasting into the channel is a baaad thing :) |
| 14:55.56 | Guest8888 | becouse compiling it my self is "NO" |
| 14:56.05 | Towzzer | that was 4 lines |
| 14:56.24 | petn-randall | Towzzer: everything above a line goes to a paste site. |
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| 14:57.00 | abec0 | Guest8888: You could also slow down the cpu: echo powersave > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor (and cpu1 too). |
| 14:57.19 | Guest8888 | abec0, I dont need to slow down my CPU |
| 14:57.32 | ompaul | short life span, is short |
| 14:57.54 | boudiccas | whats the name of the thingie [sorry for the technical term ;] when you do 'CTRL + F2' ? |
| 14:58.04 | petn-randall | Guest8888: which Debian release are you running? |
| 14:58.07 | ompaul | TTY ? |
| 14:58.09 | abec0 | Well, USB won't be a problem if the machine burns... ;-) |
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| 14:58.21 | Guest8888 | The sq.. forgot the name. The stable one |
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| 14:58.41 | Aleksander | hello, do any of you know why is http://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/TargetedHardware down? |
| 14:58.54 | ompaul | Aleksander: its scheduled |
| 14:59.12 | boudiccas | ,v xchat |
| 14:59.13 | judd | Package: xchat on i386 -- squeeze: 2.8.8-3; sid: 2.8.8-7.1; wheezy: 2.8.8-7.1 |
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| 14:59.51 | Aleksander | ompaul, when is the scheluded up, then? |
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| 15:00.26 | Guest8888 | So.... whats with my USB? |
| 15:00.31 | Guest8888 | how do i fix it? |
| 15:00.36 | ompaul | Aleksander: shortly 30ish minutes if my memory is right |
| 15:00.41 | boudiccas | Aleksander: but its not ' scheluded ' ? |
| 15:01.00 | ompaul | Aleksander: this of course implies that all goes well |
| 15:01.21 | Aleksander | boudiccas, sorry for the typo |
| 15:01.33 | boudiccas | Aleksander: it made me laugh :) |
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| 15:01.57 | Aleksander | I've got a fever and all things are pink and fluffy in my head... |
| 15:02.11 | Aleksander | maybe I'm wrong, but I think the wiki's been down for more than 30 minutes, wasn't it? |
| 15:02.29 | petn-randall | Aleksander: time passes slowly when you're sick :) |
| 15:02.33 | ompaul | Aleksander: it's been down since 07:00 |
| 15:02.37 | ompaul | UTC |
| 15:02.59 | Aleksander | and what's the reason for the downtime? |
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| 15:03.28 | ompaul | Aleksander: to fix stuff - it's on gmane if you want to find the archive |
| 15:03.42 | Aleksander | or, maybe you know: what's the hardware Freedombox will run it? I'm looking for as-cheap-as-possible plug-in server |
| 15:03.44 | petn-randall | Guest8888: what system are you running? Can you site paste the output of 'lspci'? |
| 15:03.45 | Towzzer | guest- find a distro with a later kernel |
| 15:04.11 | Aleksander | run on* |
| 15:04.16 | Aleksander | woah, my head. |
| 15:04.34 | petn-randall | Towzzer: I wouldn't recommend switching distros every time you run into a bug. |
| 15:04.50 | ompaul | Aleksander: if you feel that bad - put the keyboard down and get well |
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| 15:04.57 | petn-randall | Towzzer: it's like the mythical man month, it'll only create more work. |
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| 15:06.01 | Aleksander | ompaul, I already put down my physics handbook, but thanks for the care |
| 15:06.14 | Aleksander | anyway, don't you know any cheap plug-in servers? |
| 15:06.18 | Guest8888 | 2 sec |
| 15:06.23 | jhutchins_wk | In 2.6.32 and later, is there a way to disable ipv6 without rebooting? |
| 15:06.49 | Aleksander | I heard there are ones cheaper than raspberry pi, as they don't need any graphics |
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| 15:07.03 | pyrobisqit | /ms/msg/ping Aleksander |
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| 15:07.10 | ledestin | is it a good idea to keep debian/ in a non-native Debian package source (and not as a separate project)? |
| 15:07.33 | Aleksander | pyrobisqit, sadly, I can't see these signs - are these korean? |
| 15:08.05 | truexfan81 | anyone managed to successfully compile e17 on wheezy? |
| 15:08.29 | abec0 | Guest8888: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=159631 mentions a «kernel bug» (just googled one of your pasterd line). ight be worth comparing your kernel to the onr listed there ? and trying to see if with an other (live, for example) distro, you still have non usb (to rule out hardware problems). |
| 15:08.29 | petn-randall | ledestin: most projects don't ship a debian/, though I'm also interested in the reasoning behind it. |
| 15:08.44 | Guest8888 | LSPCI: http://pastebin.com/9sGS4gkh |
| 15:09.00 | ledestin | petn-randall: from my point of view, it's better to keep separate |
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| 15:09.16 | petn-randall | ledestin: I think it's because there are many debian derivates that would like to ship their own debian/, and it'd just be in the way. |
| 15:09.24 | pyrobisqit | Aleksander sorry about that, that wasn't supposed to happen |
| 15:09.28 | ledestin | petn-randall: you get stuff in Makefile related to debian/, and if you have also Fedora, etc, it might as well become hell |
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| 15:09.48 | petn-randall | ledestin: that should never be. |
| 15:09.55 | Guest8888 | abec0, I am not sure |
| 15:10.03 | Guest8888 | It was working several weeks ago |
| 15:10.07 | Guest8888 | But no longer |
| 15:10.13 | ledestin | petn-randall: eh? |
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| 15:10.35 | petn-randall | ledestin: I also have the opinion, that it should be separate, but I haven't seen any discussion about it yet. |
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| 15:11.14 | petn-randall | ledestin: the Makefile should never reference anything in debian/, just the other way round. |
| 15:11.45 | ledestin | petn-randall: isn't it a bad taste to have debian/Makefile? |
| 15:12.02 | packetologist | Hello |
| 15:12.29 | petn-randall | ledestin: AFAIR most package just set some environment vars or call ./configure with different options to achieve their goals. |
| 15:12.34 | petn-randall | *packages |
| 15:13.00 | packetologist | I'm trying to get ddclient to authenticate with DNS-O-Matic (OpenDNS service) and it works with a simple password but not with a complex password including special chars. Is there a specific way I should input the password? I've tried escaping the special chars with a backslash |
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| 15:13.40 | Guest8888 | packetologist, i have a 35 char long pass with special chars. It works fine |
| 15:13.44 | ledestin | petn-randall: I have a target calling dpkg-buildpackage for example |
| 15:14.03 | packetologist | Guest8888: For me its not... it gives me a bad auth but if I changed it to a simple pass, it works |
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| 15:14.26 | abec0 | Guest8888: Hmm. One couldn't exclude : no fan > heat > hardware failure > no more USB... ;-). |
| 15:14.26 | ledestin | petn-randall: it'd have to go into main Makefile |
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| 15:14.53 | petn-randall | Guest8888: looks as though you've got recent hardware in there. Is this a desktop or notebook? |
| 15:14.57 | Guest8888 | abec0, I got a jet engine loud fan. |
| 15:15.06 | Guest8888 | HP Envy dv7 |
| 15:15.13 | Guest8888 | very modern laptop |
| 15:15.21 | truexfan81 | anyone know what package provides ldconfig on wheezy? |
| 15:15.35 | ledestin | truexfan81: packages.debian.org |
| 15:15.56 | petn-randall | Guest8888: first off I'd try wheezy, if the problem's still there, you could install a kernel from experimental (though that comes with risks). |
| 15:16.31 | Guest8888 | okay, but what packages i should install from wheezy? |
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| 15:17.06 | jhutchins_wk | !frankendebian |
| 15:17.06 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 15:17.43 | petn-randall | Guest8888: *upgrade* to wheezy. All of it. Not just single packages. |
| 15:17.51 | jhutchins_wk | packetologist: Accept that dns-o-matic may have disabled special characters for passwords. |
| 15:18.16 | abec0 | Guest8888: My guess is petn-randall is suggestng to get the «latest» kernel+modules out there, to rule out old bugs. |
| 15:18.17 | Guest8888 | Oh. I have such a big squeeze system. I dont wanna reinstall it. VERY dont want. |
| 15:18.22 | packetologist | jhutchins_wk: Even though I can set the acocunt up with special chars? |
| 15:18.32 | jhutchins_wk | Guest8888: You need the cpufreq uitilities. They will allow you to throttle back the CPU, which should reduce the fan problem. |
| 15:18.32 | abec0 | Guest8888: At leat try a live CD |
| 15:18.34 | petn-randall | packetologist: have you quoted your password with single quotes? |
| 15:18.48 | packetologist | Yes, password is surrounded by single quotes |
| 15:19.01 | Guest8888 | Okay, if everyone wanna fix my burning CPU more than USB. Tell me what i need to do. |
| 15:19.09 | abec0 | jhutchins_wk: Second that. |
| 15:19.30 | petn-randall | Guest8888: I said *upgrade*, not *reinstall*. |
| 15:19.33 | abec0 | Guest8888: just in cas it is related. Pluss modern laptops are expensive, so... |
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| 15:20.06 | Guest8888 | petn-randall, How? |
| 15:20.18 | Guest8888 | I didnt know you can change release without full reinstall |
| 15:20.23 | abec0 | But first try a very modern live distro. No installation required. |
| 15:20.34 | jhutchins_wk | Guest8888: THere is also a "fancontrol" package, but usually what you need is cpufreq |
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| 15:21.06 | Guest8888 | jhutchins_wk, Tell what i need to "apt-get install" and how i configure it. |
| 15:21.18 | abec0 | Guest8888: sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude safe-upgrade ; sudo aptitude full-upgrade #Â that is what I do to upgrade these days. |
| 15:22.10 | jhutchins_wk | Guest8888: Do you know how to use aptitude to search for packages? |
| 15:22.42 | Guest8888 | Kind of. But i prefer apt-cache search |
| 15:23.07 | jhutchins_wk | Guest8888: Ok, search for cpufreq and for fancontrol - that way you're not relying on my memory to get the right ones. |
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| 15:23.41 | Guest8888 | 2 sec, i am running aptitude safe-upgrade |
| 15:24.06 | ompaul | Guest8888: and after that you must run dist-upgrade and let it delete the rubbish |
| 15:24.22 | Guest8888 | ok |
| 15:24.41 | ompaul | I didn't see the OP that's a good way |
| 15:24.50 | jhutchins_wk | Guest8888: Did they talk you into upgrading to wheezy, or are you just updating squeeze. |
| 15:25.05 | abec0 | dist- is now full- (upgrade), no ? |
| 15:25.22 | ompaul | if you use safe |
| 15:25.24 | ompaul | doesn't |
| 15:25.30 | jhutchins_wk | abec0: Both work last I checked. |
| 15:25.52 | abec0 | man says full- used to be called dist- |
| 15:26.07 | Guest8888 | idk |
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| 15:26.36 | Guest8888 | All i understood is nothing. |
| 15:26.38 | Guest8888 | :3 |
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| 15:26.49 | Guest8888 | But i blindly follow what they say |
| 15:26.50 | Guest8888 | XD |
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| 15:27.24 | jhutchins_wk | Guest8888: Did you change your sources.list? |
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| 15:27.58 | Guest8888 | Nop |
| 15:27.58 | jhutchins_wk | Good. |
| 15:28.02 | abec0 | Guest8888: But you said earlier: Actualy i am a advanced server admin |
| 15:28.14 | Guest8888 | Yeah. |
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| 15:28.36 | abec0 | And now you say: But i blindly follow what they say |
| 15:28.41 | jhutchins_wk | abec0: Leading someone blindly into an upgrade to an unstable version when they don't have any idea how to deal with problems they may encounter is not a kind thing. You may not be here when they have trouble. |
| 15:28.41 | Guest8888 | Yes |
| 15:28.42 | mtn | ha ha |
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| 15:29.09 | Guest8888 | I got this PC into a condition i dont understand a s*t |
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| 15:29.30 | Guest8888 | Mainly after i tryed compiling 3.7 my self |
| 15:29.37 | jhutchins_wk | Guest8888: You can learn, but try to understand what you're doing and why. |
| 15:29.56 | Guest8888 | I am not really good with "debian" style |
| 15:30.00 | abec0 | jhutchins_wk: I did not do that, because I did not advocate for testing (no sources.list involved in what *I* said). Plus «advanced server admin» does allow more. No ? |
| 15:30.02 | mtn | it was recommended he try a new livecd to check his hardware, but he doesn't want to |
| 15:30.12 | jhutchins_wk | Guest8888: Remember thousands of people are running the stable release without any kind of problems and don't fall for "newer is always the solution". |
| 15:30.22 | Krigsforbryter | Hello, i want to run Windows in VM on my laptop (multi boot is not a solution). witch VM software shoud i use? |
| 15:30.37 | Guest8888 | qemu |
| 15:30.39 | jhutchins_wk | abec0: He dosn't know how to do a relaese upgrade. I think that says plenty. |
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| 15:30.52 | KsM | qemu was always slow for me |
| 15:31.03 | Guest8888 | For me qemu was enough |
| 15:31.13 | abec0 | I do agree with your kindness-policy. And implemented it here. ;-) |
| 15:31.16 | truexfan81 | which DM is used when wheezy is installed with xfce4? |
| 15:31.18 | Guest8888 | jhutchins_wk, I am not really familiar with debian "releases thingy" |
| 15:31.28 | truexfan81 | i've narrowed out gdm |
| 15:31.34 | abec0 | Not me saying wheezy. |
| 15:31.35 | KsM | on an old desktop, installing bsd took like 15 minutes, under qemu under a faster laptop, took like an hour+ |
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| 15:32.06 | Guest8888 | KsM, just saying what i use. For me qemu is pretty customizable |
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| 15:32.31 | jhutchins_wk | truexfan81: dpkg -l | grep dm? |
| 15:32.33 | KsM | my laptop doesn't have kvm though |
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| 15:35.05 | petn-randall | jhutchins_wk: you're missing the discussion before. Guest8888 has a brand new laptop that's only fully supported by 3.4+. |
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| 15:35.18 | jhutchins_wk | ,kernels |
| 15:35.19 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.8-trunk-686-pae (3.8.3-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.41-1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.39-2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.39-2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze1) |
| 15:35.31 | boudiccas | whats the name of the programme that appears when you press 'CTRL + F2' in squeeze please? |
| 15:35.51 | Guest8888 | Well, i would upgrade to 3.4 the way i do stuff. Add a experimental repo and install it. |
| 15:35.55 | petn-randall | boudiccas: Depends on your desktop environment. Launcher? |
| 15:36.09 | jhutchins_wk | petn-randall: Given that everything that goes into 3.4 is tested with pre-3.4 kernels as modular components, I would guess it could run with a 3.2 or earlier kernel. |
| 15:36.20 | Guest8888 | But last time i were playing with kernels it didnt work |
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| 15:36.39 | jhutchins_wk | Guest8888: Playing with kernels is not a beginner task. |
| 15:36.55 | Guest8888 | i know. make randconfig makes them better than me |
| 15:37.13 | jhutchins_wk | Guest8888: When you're looking to a newer kernel to fix a problem, it's important to read the changelog and see if the problem is actually addressed. Newer kernels also introduce new bugs. |
| 15:37.22 | spaceone | oh shit |
| 15:37.25 | spaceone | Fehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von: |
| 15:37.27 | spaceone | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.29 | spaceone | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.31 | spaceone | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.33 | spaceone | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.34 | petn-randall | kicked |
| 15:37.35 | spaceone | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.37 | spaceone | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.39 | spaceone | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.40 | Guest8888 | well, i would not remove the old kernel |
| 15:37.41 | spaceone | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.43 | spaceone | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.45 | spaceone | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.47 | abec0 | jhutchins_wk: I think it is rather safe to recommend installing the lastest stable-available kernel just in case it would... just work. Since it would add a new entry at boot time, without removing old kernels. No ? |
| 15:37.47 | spaceone | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 15:37.49 | petn-randall | spaceone: use a paste site |
| 15:37.55 | spaceone | petn-randall: k |
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| 15:38.42 | jhutchins_wk | abec0: Generally the fallback makes it safe to do that, but spending your time building a custom kernel when the problem you're trying to solve may not even have been addressed is a waste. |
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| 15:38.53 | abec0 | Sure. |
| 15:39.13 | jhutchins_wk | Guest8888: Did I see that the main problem besides the fan is that you have a problem with USB3? |
| 15:39.15 | abec0 | But I was not talking about custom-kernel and/or building one. |
| 15:39.29 | Guest8888 | jhutchins_wk, Yes |
| 15:39.37 | Guest8888 | With all USB |
| 15:39.37 | jhutchins_wk | Guest8888: USB2 works? |
| 15:39.48 | Guest8888 | All USB ports make the same thing |
| 15:39.57 | abec0 | Although I recently did ti for the first time and found the debian-way quite smooth about it (fanboy-talk included). |
| 15:40.00 | Guest8888 | You should see USB1 in what i have posted |
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| 15:40.47 | truexfan81 | ok with an edit of .xinitrc i can go into e17 using startx after stopping lightdm |
| 15:41.08 | truexfan81 | now i need to figure out how to get e17 to show up in lightdm |
| 15:42.01 | Guest8888 | login like a man! Use console login! |
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| 15:42.24 | nutshell | hello ! |
| 15:42.33 | Guest8888 | hello ! |
| 15:42.38 | jhutchins_wk | Guest8888: You might try echo xhci > /etc/modules && modprobe xhci |
| 15:43.11 | abec0 | jhutchins_wk: anyway I would fisrt boot w...... (probably installed on the laptop), just to see exclude hardware as an issue, then try the lastest ubuntu (often more recent kernels), then try the latest stable-available kernel, then resort to building a custom kernel package. |
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| 15:43.29 | nutshell | i have an 500GB internal harddisk its connected to my motherboard via sata3 6GB/s on it i have an NTFS and an EXT3 partition, a file copy from ntfs to ext3 is soo slow i cant bear it |
| 15:43.30 | uberotter | gurble |
| 15:43.40 | nutshell | its about 2MB/sec |
| 15:43.45 | jhutchins_wk | abec0: I would research the specific problem and/or specific chipset and see if there aren't a few dozen forum posts with solutions. |
| 15:43.54 | nutshell | anybody has an idea what could be the problem ? |
| 15:44.04 | abec0 | jhutchins_wk: That too. ;-) |
| 15:44.14 | Guest8888 | jhutchins_wk, Didnt work |
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| 15:44.53 | nutshell | i just did an dd test |
| 15:44.54 | nutshell | root@box:/media/disk1.7# dd if=/media/disk1.6/test of=/media/disk1.7/test |
| 15:44.55 | nutshell | 262144+0 Datensätze ein |
| 15:44.55 | nutshell | 262144+0 Datensätze aus |
| 15:44.55 | nutshell | 134217728 Bytes (134 MB) kopiert, 252,986 s, 531 kB/s |
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| 15:45.16 | Nik05 | ok i understand but please paste in english |
| 15:45.21 | abec0 | jhutchins_wk: with the commercial-codenanme of the laptop-thing, like "samsung-packard ZTR-657 usb debian" on google, or something. |
| 15:46.04 | Nik05 | and dont past in channel nutshell |
| 15:46.15 | nutshell | alright thanks will do so |
| 15:47.16 | nutshell | so here we go |
| 15:47.16 | nutshell | http://pastebin.com/1RS8AVwN |
| 15:47.36 | nutshell | very bad speed... 531 kB/s ... |
| 15:47.51 | nutshell | well thats around dsl speeds |
| 15:48.01 | jhutchins_wk | Guest8888: Don't know what "didn't work" means, but that's what people have found fixes usb3 mounting problems in earlier kernels. |
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| 15:48.28 | jhutchins_wk | !localized errors |
| 15:48.29 | dpkg | Rather than hoping that we recognise what has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language, please provide any error messages in English. You can do this by setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. «LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install» |
| 15:48.35 | petn-randall | nutshell: don't mistake you enter key for punctuation. :) |
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| 15:49.18 | jhutchins_wk | nutshell: Check your logfiles & dmesg for errors; install smartmontools to see if it's a hardware problem. |
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| 15:49.50 | petn-randall | nutshell: for starters, you could actually copy larger blocks instead of single bytes ... check the bs option of dd. |
| 15:50.27 | petn-randall | nutshell: also, what are your mount options? Site paste the output of mount, please. |
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| 15:50.50 | nutshell | wow ... jsut did another test with an bs of 1M and i got 40MB/sec speed |
| 15:51.14 | nutshell | no errors so far in dmesg and kernel logs |
| 15:51.36 | nutshell | i will check on smartmontools to see if anything else is in my way |
| 15:52.05 | petn-randall | nutshell: the 'sync' mount option will also cost your a lot of performance. |
| 15:52.12 | jhutchins_wk | nutshell: You might also compare speeds with cp or rsync to see if it's a dd problem. |
| 15:52.31 | nutshell | mount output : http://pastebin.com/0vnG7FL9 |
| 15:53.02 | w|t | hi |
| 15:53.04 | nutshell | okay thanks petn-randall and jhutchins_wk |
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| 15:53.12 | w|t | when i installed a fresh wheezy |
| 15:53.15 | petn-randall | nutshell: also, you're copying data on the same HDD, throughput will always be far lower than half of what the HDD can do, because of random seeks. |
| 15:53.15 | w|t | my gnome shell does not work |
| 15:53.26 | w|t | debian currently uses fallback mode |
| 15:53.30 | w|t | how can i get gnome shell to work? |
| 15:53.42 | jhutchins_wk | nutshell: You'll also get better performance with a direct mount (ntfs3g) instead of going through the extra layers of fuse. |
| 15:53.58 | petn-randall | nutshell: you've got your target partition mounted with sync. |
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| 15:54.31 | nutshell | alright i will check and change that facts ! thanks alot! |
| 15:54.43 | petn-randall | nutshell: you're welcome, any time again :) |
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| 15:57.44 | tuv | i'm using debian-backports from http.debian.net and getting 'E: Release file expired, ignoring http://http.debian.net/debian-backports/dists/squeeze-backports/Release (invalid since 1d 0h 13min 6s)' |
| 15:59.05 | petn-randall | tuv: apt-get update? |
| 15:59.11 | tuv | sources.list: deb http://http.debian.net/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports main |
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| 15:59.27 | tuv | petn-randall: yes. i get that message when running update |
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| 15:59.56 | zykotick9 | tuv: http.debian.net is obviously choosing a mirror close to you, that happens to be outdated. you could try manually changing the mirror. |
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| 16:00.09 | nutshell | ah well removing the sync option relly did a boost :) |
| 16:00.10 | nutshell | nice |
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| 16:10.03 | rocktop | is there some one familiar with pure-ftpd ? |
| 16:10.24 | w|t | what should the permissions of /etc/sudoers be? |
| 16:10.28 | w|t | i think i fucked mine up |
| 16:10.31 | w|t | lol |
| 16:10.46 | tuv | backports are not on the official mirrors? deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports main -> 404 |
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| 16:11.28 | tuv | this too: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports main -> 404 |
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| 16:13.28 | rudi_s | tuv: No, they are not for squeeze. |
| 16:13.40 | rudi_s | !debian-backports |
| 16:13.40 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
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| 16:16.39 | wjtaylor | Can I use tune2fs on an existing file system (unmounted) w/o losing data? |
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| 16:18.52 | babilen | wjtaylor: That really depends on what you change. You will lose the journal if you disable the journal (for example) |
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| 16:19.24 | wjtaylor | inode ratio, reserved space, stride/stripe size |
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| 16:20.06 | wjtaylor | babilen: just worried about losing actual file data |
| 16:20.08 | babilen | wjtaylor: I will not guarantee anything :) |
| 16:20.11 | wjtaylor | :) |
| 16:20.14 | w|t | for what reasons is gnome fallback mode done? |
| 16:20.19 | babilen | wjtaylor: Make a backup and try it. |
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| 16:20.49 | wjtaylor | my restore took 2 days... that's why I was checking first :) |
| 16:20.56 | babilen | w|t: Typically missing COMPOSITE and RENDER (or realted) -- Which GPU do you use? |
| 16:21.35 | babilen | *related |
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| 16:21.49 | w|t | babilen: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS482 [Radeon Xpress 200M] |
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| 16:22.32 | wjtaylor | w|t: I just use the fallback because I find it works better. I had to tweak a few things though. |
| 16:22.38 | babilen | w|t: Could you paste the output of "glxinfo|grep -iE 'render(er|ing)'" ? (you might have to install mesa-utils first) |
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| 16:23.16 | babilen | dpkg: tell w|t -about radeon |
| 16:23.17 | w|t | direct rendering: Yes |
| 16:23.20 | w|t | OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x209) |
| 16:23.35 | w|t | wjtaylor: i like both but i would like to continue trying gnome shell :( |
| 16:23.40 | babilen | w|t: Ah, what I suspected. May I see "dpkg -l libgl1-mesa-dri firmware-linux-nonfree|tail -n2" ? |
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| 16:24.38 | w|t | ii libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 8.0.5-4 i386 free implementation of the OpenGL API -- DRI modules |
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| 16:24.51 | wjtaylor | w|t: It's all good. :) I'm usually a late adopter. :) |
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| 16:26.40 | babilen | w|t: What about firmware-linux-nonfree? |
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| 16:26.54 | babilen | Is it installed? |
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| 16:29.21 | w|t | i just installed it |
| 16:29.24 | w|t | so that would be no |
| 16:30.10 | w|t | babilen: ^ |
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| 16:30.14 | babilen | w|t: Ok, there you go. Please reboot and try again. |
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| 16:30.21 | w|t | ok |
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| 16:32.24 | tekk | hi guys, i heard the "testing" net install iso of debian allows installation onto Mac's with native efi support? (rather than emulated bios) |
| 16:32.34 | tekk | does this work? or it intended for UEFI on PC's ? |
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| 16:35.24 | babilen | tekk: yes, the wheezy installer supports UEFI ever since RC1 -- I have no information about it on "macs" (i.e. Apple hardware) |
| 16:35.36 | babilen | dpkg: tell tekk -about install wheezy |
| 16:36.06 | tekk | ok, i have a suspicion that it may not work well on a Mac out the box (as there are some fake slices/paths you need to create usually when converting an installation to EFI.) |
| 16:36.17 | tekk | will give it a go regardless, just wondered if anyone had a butchers already :D |
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| 16:48.28 | tuv | debian's wiki is unavailable! |
| 16:48.57 | brontosaurusrex | how can i have vdpau accelerated playback with vlc on debian wheezy? (2.0.3-5 0) |
| 16:49.30 | babilen | tuv: scheduled downtime -- until 17:00 URC IIRC |
| 16:49.33 | babilen | UTC :) |
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| 16:54.06 | tuv | babilen: ah ok. thanks |
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| 16:55.21 | w|t | babilen: thanks so much! |
| 16:55.32 | babilen | w|t: Did that work out? |
| 16:55.36 | w|t | yes |
| 16:55.39 | w|t | :) |
| 16:55.52 | w|t | although there's still one problem: graphical sudo asks for root passwd |
| 16:56.09 | w|t | using 'sudo' in terminal, it requests for my own pass |
| 16:56.25 | w|t | but when using pkg installer, etc. only root pass works |
| 16:56.31 | w|t | is it something with /etc/sudoers? |
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| 16:58.28 | babilen | w|t: You can configure that in gconf |
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| 16:59.16 | babilen | w|t: gconf-editor → /apps/gksu/sudo-mode (see "man gksu") |
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| 17:00.04 | babilen | w|t: And while you are at it: Do you have an Intel or an AMD processor? (or something different) |
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| 17:01.53 | babilen | w|t: "gconftool-2 --type bool --set /apps/gksu/sudo-mode true" should do it |
| 17:02.06 | babilen | (but you can use gconf-editor if you'd like to take a look) |
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| 17:03.27 | w|t | intel i think |
| 17:03.31 | aflag | hello. I want to dual boot windows 7 and debian (I'm thinking testing). Windows is already installed. Will debian installer be able to handle shrinking a ntfs partition and handling booting (so I can boot on either windows or debian)? |
| 17:03.31 | w|t | ok, i'll try that :p |
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| 17:04.03 | babilen | aflag: yes, it will |
| 17:04.09 | babilen | dpkg: tell aflag -about install wheezy |
| 17:04.18 | babilen | dpkg: tell aflag -about firmware images wheezy |
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| 17:04.53 | aflag | ok. thank you. |
| 17:05.07 | babilen | dpkg: tell aflag -about install guide wheezy |
| 17:05.11 | babilen | aflag: Have fun :) |
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| 17:08.04 | jhutchins_wk | aflag: Linux has been doing this since the last century. |
| 17:08.35 | Cyclohexane | if i grep everything that ends in .js to get all the javascript links in a file if i then pipe to wget will it download them all? |
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| 17:10.02 | jhutchins_wk | Cyclohexane: Probably not going to be that simple to grab just the URLs unless they're on a line by themselves. |
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| 17:10.28 | Cyclohexane | jhutchins_wk: they're all on lines by themselves |
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| 17:10.51 | jhutchins_wk | Cyclohexane: Then that might very well work and is probably worth trying. |
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| 17:13.56 | w|t | babilen: thanks a lot again |
| 17:14.04 | w|t | i really appreciate your help |
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| 17:15.54 | wjtaylor | anyone use unison? |
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| 17:17.29 | nkuttler | wjtaylor: ask your real question |
| 17:17.59 | Seekanet | that is a real question i think nkuttler |
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| 17:18.08 | Seekanet | he typed it. it has to be. |
| 17:18.20 | wjtaylor | my raid died and had to recover from backups. All my files have a new creation/modification times... |
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| 17:19.05 | wjtaylor | I need to sync this raid with my laptop. When I tried to force the sync to use the laptop data (the most recent) it seemed like it was never synchronized. Is this normal? |
| 17:19.30 | wjtaylor | I've synched many times between the two clients. |
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| 17:20.17 | octocpp | Could not mount the media/drive '/usr/share/virtualbox/VBoxGuestAdditions.iso' (VERR_PDM_MEDIA_LOCKED). Any ideas? |
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| 17:21.49 | octocpp | I got it to mount, but now I cant run it ? bash: .: VBoxLinuxAdditions.run: cannot execute binary file. |
| 17:22.00 | octocpp | This is in Debian testing. |
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| 17:22.08 | octocpp | I am root at the moment, |
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| 17:22.34 | octocpp | it is marked for execution though. |
| 17:23.08 | Roenie | given the choice i would never run debian or any linux distro in virtualbox again |
| 17:23.33 | Roenie | all the problems i ran into were vbox related, while on hardware the install was a breeze |
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| 17:23.58 | Roenie | if you have a choice, i suggest not wasting your time |
| 17:24.27 | Roenie | either use different virtualization software or install on hardware |
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| 17:26.42 | aQute | I am trying to extract zip and rar files in debian wheezy and its not working can somebody suggest some package that I can install ? |
| 17:26.57 | dawud | aQute: atool |
| 17:27.06 | w|t | file-roller? |
| 17:27.14 | w|t | and unrar |
| 17:27.28 | dawud | aQute: it is just a wrapper around the real tools, but simplifies the task |
| 17:27.29 | w|t | (i think with unrar file-roller can unzip rar files, but i'm not sure) |
| 17:27.38 | Towzzer | is it a multi-part rar? |
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| 17:27.45 | Towzzer | debian's default unrar is extremely outdated |
| 17:27.54 | Towzzer | and doesn't support new multi-part rar archive |
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| 17:27.55 | Towzzer | s |
| 17:27.59 | Roenie | it's impossible to unzip a rar as it is to unrar a zip |
| 17:28.03 | jhutchins_wk | aQute: not working isn't enough for us to go on. Please tell us what you're doing, what your results are, and what you expected instead. |
| 17:28.24 | mrmcgibby1 | Looking for recommendations for a firewall distro. Preferably one based on debian. Thoughts? |
| 17:28.28 | aQute | can you suggest some all in one util ? |
| 17:28.31 | xingu | Roenie: you might go rar once or twice if you get caught when you zip or unzip though. |
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| 17:28.45 | rudi_s | mrmcgibby1: Firewall distro? Just use Debian. |
| 17:28.56 | jhutchins_wk | Towzzer: Wow, and to think I've been uncompressing mult-part rar files with Debian's unrar since lenny, and maybe etch. Been doin' it wrong I guess. |
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| 17:29.13 | mrmcgibby1 | rudi_s: I'd like it to come with the packages preconfigured |
| 17:29.33 | rudi_s | mrmcgibby1: If you don't know how to configure a firewall, don't try to setup one ... |
| 17:29.48 | rudi_s | And all the packages you need are already on a default Debian install. |
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| 17:31.04 | jhutchins_wk | mrmcgibby1: What hardware are you going to use? |
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| 17:31.14 | mrmcgibby1 | rudi_s: You are incredibly unhelpful. I know how to configure a firewall. I just need more than just a firewall. bandwidth monitoring, etc. too |
| 17:31.31 | rudi_s | mrmcgibby1: Well, install them? |
| 17:31.44 | mrmcgibby1 | jhutchins_wk: old pc |
| 17:32.04 | mrmcgibby1 | rudi_s: I don't know which tools are better than others, that's why I'm asking. |
| 17:32.07 | jhutchins_wk | have a look at the ipmasquerade howto at http://tldp.org |
| 17:32.33 | rudi_s | mrmcgibby1: A distribution won't help in this case. Search the archive for tools and try them, search for guides on the internet, read a book, etc. |
| 17:32.44 | jhutchins_wk | mrmcgibby1: You really don't need anything but the iptables that comes with the kernel. |
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| 17:33.15 | jhutchins_wk | rudi_s: Actually, there are several linux-based preconfigured firewalls available either as live CD's or installable. |
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| 17:34.00 | rudi_s | jhutchins_wk: Sure. But I don't think it's a good idea to use them if you don't understand what's going on. |
| 17:34.19 | mrmcgibby1 | rudi_s: I *do* know what's going on. You're assuming a lot. |
| 17:34.51 | rudi_s | mrmcgibby1: Well, then just use Debian and install/configure the programs you need. |
| 17:35.09 | rudi_s | Or use one of the distros jhutchins_wk was talking about. I just don't see the advantage. |
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| 17:35.18 | mrmcgibby1 | jutchins_wk: I guess I poorly phrased the question. I'm looking for something that does a lot of things like bandwidth monitoring, etc. |
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| 17:35.28 | mrmcgibby1 | something like ClearOS |
| 17:35.35 | ghost75 | pfsense or ipcop |
| 17:35.47 | mrmcgibby1 | I'm having a hard time finding something that seems to stand out |
| 17:36.28 | mrmcgibby1 | jhutchins_wk: with a web interface, etc. |
| 17:37.12 | mrmcgibby1 | rudi_s: Well then, which packages would be helpful for that sort of machine? |
| 17:37.26 | jhutchins_wk | mrmcgibby1: All I've worked with is dd-wrt and my own config built from Dave Ranch's documentation. |
| 17:38.04 | mrmcgibby1 | jhutchins_wk: So is dd-wrt the defacto standand? Just looking for other options. |
| 17:38.19 | jhutchins_wk | mrmcgibby1: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/ |
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| 17:38.45 | rudi_s | mrmcgibby1: iptables for the firewall (already installed), for the rest, check the archive what exactly you require. |
| 17:38.46 | Towzzer | I once went to an ip masquerade party on fire island |
| 17:38.54 | Towzzer | not the linux related event I thought it would be |
| 17:38.58 | Towzzer | my ass will never be the same |
| 17:38.59 | jhutchins_wk | mrmcgibby1: It's intended for use on embedded devices like the Linksys wrt54g |
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| 17:39.50 | jhutchins_wk | Towzzer: That's not appropriate here. |
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| 17:40.51 | mrmcgibby1 | rudi_s: if you're only going interested in ranting, don't answer the question. |
| 17:41.11 | brontosaurusrex | mrmcgibby1, what was the question? |
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| 17:41.22 | rudi_s | mrmcgibby1: Well, you said you know what you're doing. So I assumed you know the tools you want. |
| 17:41.28 | jhutchins_wk | mrmcgibby1: Most of the web-based control panels are more trouble than they're worth. |
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| 17:41.33 | Cat-Man | sup all |
| 17:41.39 | codepython777 | gnarface: thanks |
| 17:42.19 | mrmcgibby1 | brontosaurusrex: Looking for something like ClearOS or some other "firewall/bandwidth monitor/web interface/etc." LiveCD or otherwise that I can install on an old PC that is debian based. |
| 17:42.30 | mrmcgibby1 | looking for recommendations |
| 17:42.50 | jhutchins_wk | mrmcgibby1: This isn't really the right place to ask, this is technical support for Debian. |
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| 17:43.25 | mrmcgibby1 | rudi_s: I know what tools I'm familiar with. I'm looking for folks who might know better than I. |
| 17:43.28 | jhutchins_wk | mrmcgibby1: I'd do some web research then maybe ask for opinions in a more general channel. |
| 17:43.49 | mrmcgibby1 | jhutchins_wk: suggest a channel? |
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| 17:44.08 | jhutchins_wk | mrmcgibby1: Well, I like my local LUG but it's kinda dead this weekend. |
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| 18:00.41 | imgx64 | Is the Debian wiki down at the moment? |
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| 18:01.58 | Mogget | Hey guys; I just installed wheezy and I am experiencing the following. When doing "kill -USR1 pid_to_dd" when running dd it does not respond to stderr or stdout. Has dd been changed or am I doing something wrong? |
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| 18:06.59 | babilen | imgx64: yes (scheduled downtime, but I thought it'd be over by now) |
| 18:07.03 | Towzzer | what do you mean does not respond to strerr |
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| 18:09.36 | babilen | Mogget: I would expect that to work, but then .. I haven't used dd in quite a while (much prefer dcfldd or simply "cp" or "cat" as both are typically faster by default in most cases and just as good) |
| 18:11.45 | babilen | Mogget: I've just tested dd's behaviour and it works just fine here. Mind trying "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null& pid=$!" followed by "kill -USR1 $pid; sleep 1; kill $pid" and paste the result on http://paste.debian.net ? |
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| 18:14.59 | ariqs | so the cd iso is a who bunch of cds, and the dvd iso is a few dvds. Why can't there be just a single dvd iso that's similar to the cd ISOs ;P |
| 18:15.05 | ariqs | who - whole |
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| 18:15.15 | petn-randall | Mogget: it won't react to an USR1 signal until it actually has finished copying the block. So if you have bs=1G it will actually lag quite a lot. |
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| 18:16.25 | babilen | ariqs: I don't quite understand. The entirety of the CD images contain all packages and the same holds true for the DVD and BD images. |
| 18:17.01 | babilen | ariqs: You also typically don't need them as you can download all needed packages during the installation anyway if you have a working internet connection. Are you planning to install Debian? |
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| 18:17.36 | petn-randall | ariqs: You only need them all if you plan to install in an underground bunker with no access to the internet. |
| 18:17.38 | ariqs | yes, I'm planning to install debian, but I have to download it elsewhere because I am stuck on dialup where I live |
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| 18:19.05 | babilen | ariqs: Ok, you might want to download the wheezy images at this point. |
| 18:19.09 | petn-randall | ariqs: I'd just burn the first three DVDs then, and download the rest (if there is at all) via dialup. |
| 18:19.18 | babilen | dpkg: tell ariqs -about install wheezy |
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| 18:19.33 | babilen | dpkg: tell ariqs -about installer firmware |
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| 18:20.19 | babilen | ariqs: The packages are distributed on the images based on their populuratity in that you more popular packages are on the earlier images. |
| 18:20.25 | jair | do we know when debian 7 will be stable? also is that true that now I can not use su - to switch to root? that I have to run just like ubuntu sudo? |
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| 18:21.06 | petn-randall | jair: no, no and no |
| 18:21.07 | babilen | jair: The release date has not been finalised (it will be soon and I'd expect it within a couple of weeks) -- "su" works fine and /will/ continue working just fine. |
| 18:21.09 | jair | I am going to read more about it on the site but I am very interested in becoming debian package maintainer |
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| 18:21.33 | jair | petn-randall: Thank you! |
| 18:21.37 | babilen | jair: The installer /does/ support an Ubuntu-like sudo configuration if you /don't/ provide a root password and configure a single user. |
| 18:21.41 | jair | babilen: awesome! |
| 18:22.17 | jair | babilen: perfect. I will get it on one of my virtual box machines this week and check the differences |
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| 18:22.44 | babilen | jair: You can install and use wheezy just fine these days -- see <install wheezy>, read <install guide wheezy> and use <firmware images wheezy> if you have a working internet connection. (/msg dpkg install wheezy) |
| 18:23.10 | jair | babilen: but my goal is to understand the package maintenance and develop, also need to get my hands closer to the kernel |
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| 18:23.53 | jair | babilen: perfect I really appreciate your information, very very useful! |
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| 18:24.40 | jair | babilen: thank you so much! |
| 18:24.54 | babilen | jair: If you want to learn more about Debian packaging you can read the New Maintainer's Guide and other documentation linked on http://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers -- For Debian specific information about the kernel see http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org |
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| 18:25.35 | jair | babilen: you are awesome!!! |
| 18:26.11 | babilen | jair: But if you want to develop for the kernel that is entirely unspecific to Debian. I would join #kernelnewbies and ask for good introductory material. (well, read King's C A modern approach first) |
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| 18:26.55 | nsgn | frustrating issue that is probably just my lack of linux knowledge. i can make a tightvnc server on :1 just fine...but i want to use it on :0 so it is controlling the desktop on my monitor. it wont seem to let me do this |
| 18:27.00 | babilen | jair: Another /very/ good book about Debian is http://debian-handbook.info/ but that rather covers the administration |
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| 18:27.15 | nsgn | when i do "vncserver :0" i get ":0 is already taken because of /tmp/.X0-lock" |
| 18:27.54 | ariqs | thanks guys (little late of course) |
| 18:29.47 | jair | babilen: I am interested in both. The information you are giving me is what I was looking for! |
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| 18:30.28 | jair | babilen: this is great. Thank GOD for these community and all people that help each other to have a better world. |
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| 18:35.56 | petn-randall | jair: meh, we mostly bicker with each other like the grumpy two grandpas at the muppet show. |
| 18:36.20 | petn-randall | jair: we're just nice to each other for the show ;) |
| 18:37.48 | jair | petn-randall: ;) |
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| 18:39.58 | babilen | nsgn: I am not entirely convinced that tightvnc supports sharing an already running session ... Are you sure that is supported? |
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| 18:40.24 | nsgn | babilen, it is on other OSes, but may not be here. i just used x11vnc and it works (although it wont run on startup it works when i manually set it off) |
| 18:40.39 | babilen | other OSes such as? |
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| 18:41.15 | babilen | nsgn: I genuinely don't know, but it might simply not support that. (or it might and there is some configuration/change that is needed to make it happen) |
| 18:41.25 | nsgn | babilen, tightvnc server works that way on windows :) |
| 18:41.48 | nsgn | not apples to apples at all, but that was what i mean |
| 18:41.50 | nsgn | t |
| 18:42.12 | babilen | sure, that is an interesting data point that would suggest that it is at least possible that it works on linux ;) |
| 18:42.43 | babilen | Have you checked their documentation? Did you check documentation in /usr/share/doc/*tightvnc*/* ? |
| 18:42.52 | jair | guys, I have experiences using, x11vnc, tightvnc and realvnc in linux, they all support sharing the same session |
| 18:43.22 | jair | as long as you export or start the program on the session 0 |
| 18:43.29 | jair | or screen 0 |
| 18:44.10 | jair | the only thing though why I stop using it is because of the speed, very slow |
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| 18:44.39 | jair | so I ended up using the individual version of teamviewer, supported well for linux and works cross platform |
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| 18:45.27 | jair | I guess we should learn from them and try to make x11vnc or the GNU versions of vnc like teamviewer |
| 18:45.54 | jair | same concept one type of package running and installable on win, mac, lin |
| 18:46.09 | jair | of course we focus on the debian/ubuntu ones |
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| 18:51.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | jair, so how'd you do that with e.g. tightvnc |
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| 18:53.15 | petn-randall | jair: teamviewer is closed source though, which makes it uninteresting for most people in this channel. |
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| 18:54.53 | jair | petn-randall: that is correct. That is why I said we should try to work in learning the good things they offer ;) |
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| 18:59.15 | jair | CutMeOwnThroat: are you still there? |
| 18:59.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | jair, no |
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| 19:00.53 | jair | CutMeOwnThroat: haha |
| 19:01.03 | jair | CutMeOwnThroat: ok first, install x11vnc |
| 19:01.24 | jair | then run the following command: x11vnc -rfbauth /pass -rfbport 5900 -forever -shared -bg -o /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth |
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| 19:02.22 | jair | where "/pass" is the file you create using the x11vnc commands with the password. |
| 19:02.38 | jair | CutMeOwnThroat: is that sort of clear? |
| 19:03.00 | jair | CutMeOwnThroat: or you will need more explanation? |
| 19:03.43 | jair | I need to wake up in 2:30 hours for work and it is 4:00am here in Japan ;( |
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| 19:04.02 | jair | I will join here later or tomorrow night JST |
| 19:04.14 | jair | CutMeOwnThroat: good luck! |
| 19:04.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | jair, that's what I'd call using x11vnc as a server |
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| 19:04.54 | jair | CutMeOwnThroat: correct |
| 19:05.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | jair, I thought you said all other vnc servers would support a mode in which to cling to the X session, too |
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| 19:05.26 | jair | to connect to the server you use any vnc client GNU available on debian |
| 19:06.03 | jair | CutMeOwnThroat: similar /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth |
| 19:06.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | well... obviously it doesn't matter what vnc client you use... (except for different bugs in different clients-server combinations) |
| 19:06.19 | jair | CutMeOwnThroat: as long as they run on :0.Xauth |
| 19:06.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | anyway... perhaps you should take a nap now :P |
| 19:06.50 | jair | CutMeOwnThroat: need to rest a bit |
| 19:07.24 | jair | CutMeOwnThroat: but perhaps I am not understanding what are you trying to accomplish, remember all goes down to "Requirements" |
| 19:07.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | good idea :) |
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| 19:07.47 | jair | good night all! |
| 19:07.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | jair, nuffin. I just wondered about what you said above... but I think it's clear now |
| 19:07.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | bb |
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| 19:31.00 | john_rambo | How to configure apt so that iceweasel updates from backports ? |
| 19:31.58 | tharkun | There is a command for judd that tells you what dependencies a bacport package might need. Can someone point me in that direction? |
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| 19:32.08 | Anaki | Hey guys |
| 19:32.12 | Anaki | I have a question |
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| 19:33.01 | __zero | Anaki: just ask =) |
| 19:33.28 | Anaki | I want to play "Counter Strike 1.6" as .exe file under WINE. In other Linux versions that worked, but here it say "Be sure that the file >opengll32.dll< exists |
| 19:33.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps he just wanted to let us know.. ya know, like "I have a Ferrari" or so |
| 19:33.36 | Anaki | Is that a programm? |
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| 19:34.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's a runtime library under windows |
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| 19:37.06 | Anaki | argh |
| 19:37.16 | Anaki | so how I can use the programm? |
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| 19:38.55 | Anaki | Oh and my second one: I de-ziped a .tar.bz2 file. Now there is a .sh file. Its a game, I wanted to start (under ubuntu and puppyit worked also fine) but nothing happens :( |
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| 19:41.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | try... bash whateveryourfile.sh |
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| 19:42.22 | Anaki | you mean in terminal? |
| 19:43.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | indeed |
| 19:43.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | as for the other... I wonder if your ubuntu had a newer version of wine |
| 19:43.53 | Anaki | "file not found" |
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| 19:44.17 | Anaki | or have to write the place |
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| 19:44.51 | dizzylizzy | Anaki, where did you extract the .tar.bz2 |
| 19:45.38 | jalalsfs | Is the wiki.debian.org working? |
| 19:45.39 | dizzylizzy | thescriptyoumentioned.sh has to be in the current directory if you want to run "bash nameofscript.sh" |
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| 19:46.04 | Anaki | dizzy, i extracted on desktop |
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| 19:46.13 | Anaki | now i tryed bash with the correct place |
| 19:46.14 | Anaki | so |
| 19:46.19 | Anaki | bash /home/blablablabla |
| 19:46.22 | Anaki | And it says |
| 19:46.45 | Anaki | error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 19:47.06 | dizzylizzy | Anaki, aptitude install libsdl-image1.2 |
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| 19:52.01 | Anaki | how, pls? |
| 19:52.53 | Anaki | im new in debian - but i really like it |
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| 19:53.07 | dizzylizzy | that was the command, Anaki: aptitude install libsdl-image1.2 |
| 19:53.10 | unkmar | I have a usb HID joystick configured in xorg.conf and it is apparently being detected twice. How would I go about disabling the automatic settings? |
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| 19:53.21 | dizzylizzy | Anaki, that will install the library it's complaining about you not having. |
| 19:53.46 | Anaki | Thank you! |
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| 19:58.01 | Anaki | okay that work |
| 19:58.06 | Anaki | lemme test open the file |
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| 20:03.42 | tharkun | I'm backporting hplip to squeeze and after building the dependencies it needs, and after apt-get -b source hplip It runs for 20 seconds and then starts a loop and it freezes. Any has recompiled this before? Top doesn't show much cpu activity. Any ideas? |
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| 20:06.57 | Anaki | error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_mixer-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 20:07.01 | Anaki | wut? |
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| 20:10.57 | Anaki | WINE isnt a real emulator. Is there a other good one? |
| 20:12.19 | Anaki | Aww, cmon I need help here are over 1000 ppl! ='( |
| 20:13.12 | Mogget | babilen: sorry for the very late answer. Got lost in debugging this. It seems that the kernel was not updating the internal mounting tables or something like this because of corrupt partition tables, making dd not responding to USR1 because it locked somehow. |
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| 20:16.06 | digdilem | Anaki, wine is the best you're going to get. Running FPS games under an alien operating system is never going to give you best performance. |
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| 20:22.28 | Anaki | :( |
| 20:22.31 | Anaki | okay |
| 20:22.37 | Anaki | but also with wine it doesnt work |
| 20:22.47 | Anaki | I mean its cs 1.6! Sooo old |
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| 20:23.50 | TriJetScud | Anaki: anything directx is probably a no go with wine |
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| 20:42.13 | MissPeePod | Got a question.... |
| 20:42.30 | MissPeePod | ^_^ |
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| 20:43.12 | ompaul | !ask |
| 20:43.13 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 20:44.10 | MissPeePod | How can I install debian in a thinstation it only has internet acces and usb port but i do not know the windows CE dos commands to boot from USB |
| 20:44.13 | MissPeePod | ? |
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| 20:44.50 | MissPeePod | it does have wireless internet ^_^ |
| 20:44.59 | dizzylizzy | Anaki, apt-cache search -n libsdl mixer |
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| 20:45.32 | dizzylizzy | that's how I found the name of the package you needed for the first one |
| 20:45.47 | ompaul | MissPeePod: you need to get into your bios to tell the machine to work with the usb |
| 20:45.54 | dizzylizzy | any time you get a complaint about a missing shared object (library) just do a search with apt-cache and find what you need |
| 20:47.18 | MissPeePod | thinstation doesn't have a bios that I know of i try pressing f1 to f12 and control delete and alt delete and it just boots thus I wanted to know if windows CE had a dos (terminal) command to do so ^_^ |
| 20:48.22 | MissPeePod | i did cmd on run and i am in Dos (tterminal) but I do not know the command to get into bios :) |
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| 20:48.37 | ompaul | MissPeePod: then you're stuck |
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| 20:49.19 | MissPeePod | and the usbs I put in are not seem to be read is the a distro I can install over the net? |
| 20:49.28 | shadin | Evening all. I'm having an odd problem on my VPS running squeeze. BASH history works for root, but not for users. Is there a group that controls that? |
| 20:50.33 | MissPeePod | maybe I should have purchase rasberry pi insted of this thinstation windows ce 5.0 :( |
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| 20:50.54 | ompaul | MissPeePod: give us a link to the hardware |
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| 20:51.01 | MissPeePod | ok |
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| 20:53.35 | MissPeePod | Thin Station N280 Windows CE 5.0 |
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| 20:53.47 | ompaul | that's a link? |
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| 20:54.29 | MissPeePod | http://www.dhgate.com/hzone-thin-client-n280-pc-station-with-lowest/p-ff8080813c22ad1a013c2390892967b6.html |
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| 20:55.59 | damarusama | hi there I am trying to load the synaptic driver for the eeepc1201n and I am wondering if editing my xconfig is the only way in ? |
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| 20:57.24 | ompaul | MissPeePod: that's not going to support standard debian - unless you can find your way into the bios you won't be able to overwrite the rather puny windows ce install it will take an embedded client and should be able to run something over the wire but frankly it's not worth is |
| 20:57.27 | ompaul | wanders off |
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| 20:58.10 | MissPeePod | ok i will buy a rasberry pi then |
| 20:58.18 | MissPeePod | know where i can buy one? |
| 20:58.32 | MissPeePod | With debian on it? |
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| 20:58.52 | damarusama | you have to put debian on an external sd card |
| 20:59.02 | MissPeePod | oh ok |
| 20:59.08 | damarusama | you can buy it at farrel |
| 20:59.19 | MissPeePod | farrel |
| 20:59.20 | MissPeePod | ? |
| 20:59.30 | MissPeePod | www.farrel.com? |
| 20:59.46 | damarusama | the electronic shop, I might be writting it out bad, check on raspberrypi.org |
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| 21:00.08 | MissPeePod | Oh ok thank you ^_^ |
| 21:00.17 | damarusama | it's quite a lot of fun! |
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| 21:00.33 | damarusama | but my daughter (2 y/o) is now always on it |
| 21:01.44 | terr1 | Anyone have experience using darvish as backup solution, or what rsync solution is recommended? |
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| 21:02.08 | damarusama | MissPeePod: parnel.com |
| 21:02.09 | MissPeePod | OH wow there is a 12 month waiting for a rasberry pI :( |
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| 21:02.14 | damarusama | ha farnel.com |
| 21:02.22 | damarusama | Wow! Still!! |
| 21:02.35 | damarusama | that's crazy! I guess there is still ebay |
| 21:02.39 | jelly-home | terr1: dirvish? Works well for local backup storage. |
| 21:02.57 | MissPeePod | :( |
| 21:03.15 | damarusama | dont' worry it's not that great ._. |
| 21:04.08 | damarusama | the debian wiki is not responding from where I am (berlin) |
| 21:04.15 | terr1 | jelly-home: yes that was what I meant, I'm looking for a good way to backup to mounted nfs. I guess dirvish is decent for this? |
| 21:07.05 | damarusama | ho wiki.debian.org is down for real |
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| 21:11.39 | jelly-home | terr1: you may try it, but rsync doesn't really perform well over when destination is a nfs mount in my experience. |
| 21:12.02 | jelly-home | s/over// |
| 21:12.20 | terr1 | jelly-home: So its better I SSH to my backup using dirvish/rsync instead of the mounted nfs? |
| 21:12.34 | jelly-home | terr1: try both. |
| 21:12.54 | terr1 | jelly-home: Ok thanks |
| 21:13.18 | jelly-home | I've never tried dirvish over remote rsync, not sure whether that's supported or easy to set up |
| 21:13.28 | jelly-home | rsnapshot worked. |
| 21:13.51 | Tagor | I got a new system with an Intel Xeon E3 processor and trying to get my Debian install working on it (before I had an AMD processor). Is there a way to install the correct kernel? |
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| 21:17.04 | dizzylizzy | damarusama, down here in US too |
| 21:17.16 | jelly-home | Tagor: the same kernel is used for amd and intel cpus. |
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| 21:17.27 | damarusama | dizzylizzy: yeah I tried some other shell in europe and us |
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| 21:20.09 | jhutchins_wk | Tagor: Only intel itaniums need the ia64 kernel. |
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| 21:20.27 | jhutchins_wk | Tagor: xeons are still i86_64 |
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| 21:22.48 | DrOwl | is there a way to get 32Bit sun java working as the browser plugin on 64Bit Weezy? |
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| 21:23.33 | damarusama | DrOwl: should work fine in multiarch |
| 21:24.16 | damarusama | if you apt-get with a :i386 |
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| 21:24.27 | damarusama | the package you need |
| 21:24.37 | Proximus | Hello debians |
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| 21:27.40 | DrOwl | damarusama: i thorght that Sun Java is not longer in Weezy repo's |
| 21:27.40 | DrOwl | I am trying to get Cisco AnyConnect working |
| 21:27.40 | DrOwl | i managed to download the client from the server and got it running, lots of 32Bit packages were needed |
| 21:27.40 | DrOwl | but when i try to connect to the vpn from the browser "it" just crashes |
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| 21:27.40 | DrOwl | i was guessing it was java that was scrashing |
| 21:27.50 | dawud | does gnome provide a secure alternative to XDMCP? |
| 21:27.55 | Tagor | jelly-home / jhutchins_wk: thanks, I guess there's something else wrong then |
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| 21:31.42 | jhutchins_wk | I thought cisco provided linux clients and some configurations worked with the kernel vpn. |
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| 21:32.39 | DrOwl | it seems Cisco Anyconnect is only 32Bit in Lunix! |
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| 21:33.57 | jhutchins_wk | DrOwl: Might want to verify that with cisco. |
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| 21:34.40 | DrOwl | I havent contacted them directly but thats what i found on there site |
| 21:34.58 | DrOwl | It also says they _only_ support Redhat! |
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| 21:35.14 | DrOwl | but i did get the gui running |
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| 21:53.58 | octocpp | is there something with newer packs than what are in wheezy? |
| 21:54.11 | octocpp | or is the next thing up, unstable? |
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| 21:55.06 | rudi_s | octocpp: Yes. Newer packages are in sid (not true at the moment because of the freeze), and experimental. |
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| 21:55.46 | octocpp | im running testing right now, but i want to get the newest kernel, and newest mdadm installed to se how it goes in debian. |
| 21:56.00 | octocpp | i have kernel 3.2 right now |
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| 21:56.15 | octocpp | I should be able to get 3.7 right? |
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| 21:57.31 | rudi_s | octocpp: 3.8 is in experimental. You can fetch it (and just the kernel, plus a few packages required to support it) from experimental without breaking your system (that only works for a few packages, though. You shouldn't normally mix sid and unstable.) |
| 21:57.58 | rudi_s | *instead use backports (not relevant in this case though because wheezy wasn't released yet) |
| 21:58.45 | rudi_s | s/mix sid and unstable/mix stable and unstable/ |
| 21:59.16 | frognot | its 3.8 now. probably best to just get the .deb unless you are an apt-pinning genius ( like me ) |
| 21:59.18 | octocpp | do you know if there is a newer ver of mdadm in the packports too? |
| 21:59.51 | octocpp | id be fine with like 3.7.10 ish, since i am trying to compare another sys that has that kernel. |
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| 22:00.06 | rudi_s | octocpp: No. wheezy's mdadm is current. |
| 22:00.25 | rudi_s | As hint, use the rmadiosn tool from the devscripts package. |
| 22:00.36 | rudi_s | It checks which versions of a package are available in stable,sid,exerpimental. |
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| 22:06.02 | octocpp | rudi_s: I have a suse 12.3 install that is doind all sorts of weird with kernel 3.7.10, mdadm 3.2.6 and metadata 1.2. I was trying out debain, and so far it seems to be working much better. But it may be an issue with the latest mdadm since some people were getting the problem to disapear by reverting back on mdadm. |
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| 22:06.37 | octocpp | rudi_s: if Debian doesnt hav those issues with the same versions, I think im going to put debian on that box instead. |
| 22:07.11 | rudi_s | octocpp: Debian has mdadm 3.2.5. Kernel 3.7.8 is also in experimental. |
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| 22:07.59 | octocpp | rudi_s: experimental is more cutting edge than sid even? |
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| 22:08.16 | rudi_s | octocpp: Yes. It is _experimental_, which includes dangerous. |
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| 22:08.35 | rudi_s | !experimental |
| 22:08.35 | dpkg | experimental is the bleeding edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit/DANGEROUS/untrustworthy/etc for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does _not_ support experimental. For an actual description, see section 4.6.4.3 of the Developer's Reference. http://packages.debian.org/experimental/ |
| 22:08.39 | octocpp | is it possible to just get the kernel and mdadm from it and keep the rest of testing? |
| 22:08.46 | rudi_s | octocpp: Yes. |
| 22:09.15 | rudi_s | Just add the experimental line to apt/sources.list, install the packages (and remove the line if you don't need the rest). |
| 22:09.24 | rudi_s | mdadm is the same version though. |
| 22:11.51 | octocpp | rudi_s: like this? "deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental main" |
| 22:12.09 | rudi_s | octocpp: Yes. |
| 22:12.17 | octocpp | thanks |
| 22:12.57 | rudi_s | octocpp: Be careful though, this doesn't work for most packages when you're running stable (which wheezy will be eventually). So be careful with this in the future. The correct solution is to use backports. |
| 22:13.10 | rudi_s | (Which doesn't exist for wheezy yet.) |
| 22:14.02 | octocpp | rudi_s: I see, once it leaves testing, it will get a backports with newer packages in it? |
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| 22:14.37 | rudi_s | octocpp: Yes. For some packages. |
| 22:14.40 | rudi_s | !debian-backports |
| 22:14.41 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
| 22:14.45 | rudi_s | octocpp: ^ |
| 22:15.06 | rudi_s | e.g. squeeze-backports has a 3.2 linux kernel. |
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| 22:18.29 | octocpp | rudi_s: is the kernel named linux-image ? |
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| 22:19.00 | rudi_s | octocpp: Yes. |
| 22:19.44 | octocpp | k, I think i have everything heh. going to install and see if it changed my grub menu automagically or not. then reboot into it. |
| 22:19.59 | rudi_s | octocpp: It will change it. |
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| 22:20.46 | octocpp | hmm, cant apply, have to fix proken packs first .lol |
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| 22:21.06 | rudi_s | octocpp: You need newer version of a few packages. |
| 22:21.50 | octocpp | yea, not sure which ones yet. |
| 22:22.04 | octocpp | I am in synaptic doing this right now. |
| 22:22.42 | rudi_s | octocpp: I've never used synaptics .. initramfs-tools |
| 22:23.32 | octocpp | rudi_s: that is a package manager? |
| 22:23.46 | octocpp | that is fro the ramfs stuff there right? |
| 22:24.27 | rudi_s | octocpp: No, that's the package you need to update as well. |
| 22:24.54 | octocpp | oh |
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| 22:26.05 | octocpp | rudi_s: hmm, I dont see a newer vertion in there. |
| 22:26.18 | rudi_s | octocpp: There is. |
| 22:26.49 | octocpp | rudi_s: it shoudl have experimental in the name too? |
| 22:26.49 | dgriffi | anyone here have a Thinkpad T42? |
| 22:26.56 | exobyte | dgriffi: I did! |
| 22:27.03 | exobyte | dgriffi: ~5 years ago |
| 22:27.11 | rudi_s | octocpp: No. Just version 0.110 |
| 22:27.26 | rudi_s | (Not all packages in experimental have special version names.) |
| 22:27.47 | dgriffi | I'm trying to get suspend and hibernation working on a T42 running Wheezy... everything else is finally working okay |
| 22:28.03 | octocpp | rudi_s: k |
| 22:28.23 | exobyte | I have debian running on a VM in VMWare. I resized a hard drive while the VM was running. Is there a way to rescan a scsi device to see that it just grew? |
| 22:28.45 | exobyte | dgriffi: all I can say is take a look at thinkwiki |
| 22:28.47 | dgriffi | the weirdness of iceweasel not wanting to start new windows was traced to "export MOZ_NO_REMOTE=1" that I had in .bashrc. no idea why that was suddenly a problem |
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| 22:29.04 | dgriffi | dgriffi: I wrote a bunch of the stuff there for the T42 |
| 22:29.20 | dgriffi | exobyte: I wrote a bunch of the stuff there for the T42 |
| 22:29.35 | exobyte | dgriffi: heh... |
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| 22:30.34 | dgriffi | exobyte: looks like I'll have to post some updates and a howto on running wheezy on a T42 |
| 22:30.54 | exobyte | found his answer; blockdev --rereadpt /dev/sda |
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| 22:31.40 | petn-randall | exobyte: that will actually update the drive size in the VM? I thought that just re-reads the partition table. |
| 22:31.51 | dgriffi | it's rather perverse when I have a problem with something, go googling for the answer, and find posts from myself |
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| 22:32.57 | exobyte | petn-randall: I updated the size in vmware. That comman made cfdisk see that the size was, indeed, bigger |
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| 22:34.19 | john_rambo | I ahve downloaded firefox from their website but when I try to run it I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/5644769/ |
| 22:34.54 | Nik05 | paste ubuntu using in #debian :O |
| 22:35.05 | Nik05 | lets have a look |
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| 22:36.44 | Nik05 | john_rambo you need to install libstdc++6 |
| 22:36.53 | Nik05 | oh you have |
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| 22:37.10 | john_rambo | aptitude says its installed |
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| 22:37.37 | petn-randall | john_rambo: why not use iceweasel? |
| 22:37.51 | drborman | how could I use debian bot? |
| 22:38.51 | somiaj | drborman: what do you mean by use? you can /msg dpkg command (or judd) |
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| 22:39.16 | john_rambo | petn-randall, I want to download a flsh video from a website with help of a addon caleed netvideo hunter. ALthough NVH is installed in iceweasel sue to the lack of flash the video is not apppearing in iceweasel |
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| 22:40.25 | drborman | ok I'm not gonna use the bot :) bad expression sorry |
| 22:40.41 | octocpp | rudi_s: k everything is installing . |
| 22:40.54 | rudi_s | octocpp: Good. Let's hope it works ;-) |
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| 22:42.02 | octocpp | yea. the prob I am having is that in suse 12.3, the raid devices come up with different names every time, and they are like md125-126. |
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| 22:42.40 | petn-randall | john_rambo: Flash is working just fine in my iceweasel installation. How did you install flash? |
| 22:42.48 | octocpp | rudi_s: already I was able to specify in grub2 teh root=(md0) and it booted from it. I could not get that to happen at all in suse for some reason. |
| 22:42.57 | rudi_s | octocpp: :-) |
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| 22:44.13 | octocpp | rudi_s: so far, I even have uuid's in the boot menu and in fstab, and the mdraid devices still come up nice like they are suppsed to md1-2, but I will see if the new kernel messes that up heh. |
| 22:45.05 | john_rambo | petn-randall, I ahvent installed flash yet. But I saw a movie player appearing in iceweasel when playing flash videos. Now, suppose I install flash from the repos howdo configure iceweasel to use slash instead of the movie player? |
| 22:45.26 | rudi_s | octocpp: ;-) |
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| 22:51.49 | john_rambo | petn-randall, I just installed flash by apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree. Now ? |
| 22:52.43 | petn-randall | john_rambo: what now? You try it? |
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| 22:54.12 | john_rambo | petn-randall, Its working. Thanks |
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| 23:09.43 | octocpp | so far everyhting seems to come up good with kernel 3..8 |
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