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| 00:00.10 | sujal_ | thx Cyclohexane |
| 00:00.15 | sujal_ | but no worries |
| 00:00.20 | sujal_ | I just burn the damn thing? |
| 00:00.40 | Cyclohexane | sujal_: probably the best solution ;) |
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| 00:01.04 | sujal_ | p.s. |
| 00:01.05 | Cyclohexane | impatience + burning = person content |
| 00:01.09 | sujal_ | anyone got a lighter? |
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| 00:05.52 | stameni | hello, what version of debian is better to install in terms of software availability, needed drivers and so on, 32 or 64 bit ? ia have phenom 2 x6 1055 t and its 64bit but dont know if all the packages and configuration files are available for 64 bit |
| 00:06.13 | stew | stameni: there is no difference |
| 00:06.44 | stew | stameni: there might be some difference if you are talking about closed source or non-free software, but for stuff in debian there is no difference |
| 00:07.07 | stameni | stew, i think of my scaner and printer :) |
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| 00:07.53 | stew | anything in userspace (which those would be) doesn't matter |
| 00:08.16 | stew | since if you have a 64 bit kernel, you can install both 32 bit and 64 bit userspace packages |
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| 00:08.46 | stameni | stew, and flash for firefox ? |
| 00:09.04 | stew | I don't care |
| 00:09.18 | stameni | but do you know if there is a difference ? |
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| 00:10.02 | MrMonkey1 | stameni, no one's really sure what the big deal with 64 bit is |
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| 00:10.23 | stew | if you have more than 4 gb of memory, it can be a big deal to be using 64 bit |
| 00:10.38 | stameni | i have exactly 4 gb of ram |
| 00:10.38 | KsM | PAE. |
| 00:10.50 | AimHere | If you think you'll be using computers in 2039, 64-bit might be handy |
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| 00:11.00 | KsM | heh |
| 00:11.04 | Cyclohexane | stameni: use it |
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| 00:11.20 | stameni | tnx |
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| 00:13.14 | stew | KsM: yes, PAE is something you want to avoid |
| 00:13.34 | KsM | why |
| 00:13.39 | stew | because it is a slow hack |
| 00:13.47 | KsM | what |
| 00:13.52 | stew | it is slow |
| 00:15.36 | gnarface | KsM: put it this way; want to know what the big deal is with 64-bit? try using PAE instead. |
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| 00:15.46 | KsM | I have before |
| 00:16.02 | MrMonkey1 | hey now! |
| 00:16.05 | KsM | not very much, or for very long, but I have |
| 00:16.10 | gnarface | KsM: but you have to then benchmark against a 64-bit system on some equivalent task that needs more than 4GB of ram |
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| 00:16.16 | reavengrey | It's slow...? |
| 00:16.27 | gnarface | KsM: otherwise you're not likely to notice a difference, because you're not using the hardware in either case |
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| 00:16.45 | reavengrey | PAE extension is just an extension of the 32-bit page tables to support a larger physical address space |
| 00:16.57 | reavengrey | It uses the /same/ page table format as x86-64 |
| 00:17.05 | reavengrey | In long mode, it's not inherently slower |
| 00:17.15 | gnarface | doesn't believe that |
| 00:17.19 | KsM | ┐('～`；)┌ |
| 00:17.53 | reavengrey | Probably the way linux implemented support for it was slow, because it required some unconventional methods, but it in itself, the documentation in the manusla |
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| 00:17.57 | reavengrey | doesn't suggest that at all |
| 00:18.01 | dvn | Has anyone had problems using the shortcut keys in tmux? C-b C-c just doesn't register. Screen works fine though. |
| 00:18.32 | gnarface | reavengrey: like i said. i recommend you benchmark instead of speculate |
| 00:18.51 | abrotman | anyway ... |
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| 00:19.56 | stew | so it looks like its 1% - 10% slower to use PAE, depending on what you are doing |
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| 00:20.31 | stew | there is a memory penalty for using 64-bit (64 bit programs use more memory than the same program compiled for 32 bit) |
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| 00:21.22 | MrMonkey1 | noo, cirdan has sailed away... |
| 00:21.23 | stew | but I don't know of too many other compelling reasons not to use 64 bit |
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| 00:25.20 | hlieberman | How can I get an older version of a debian package that was in the squeeze security repo? |
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| 00:26.13 | stew | hlieberman: check snapshot.debian.org |
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| 00:29.54 | sujal_ | I still imagine my raspbian audio trouble could be solved with any debian skills - anyone? #raspbian still idles like no tomorrow -> after changing from alsa to pulse there is no output |
| 00:30.38 | dvs | raspbian |
| 00:30.48 | sujal_ | yeah, I'm sorry I asked |
| 00:31.02 | sujal_ | not exactly but yeah |
| 00:32.21 | hlieberman | Thanks. |
| 00:33.09 | Cyclohexane | sujal_: what exactly is the problem? |
| 00:34.31 | sujal_ | alsa has some power saving thing wich causes an annoying popping sound every time switching tracks e.g. - solution seems to be switching to pulseaudio. which caused no error and according to any source it should work, but with my pi there just is no more output |
| 00:35.10 | sujal_ | so i ran out of options / ideas |
| 00:35.20 | sujal_ | not that i had any ideas |
| 00:35.29 | sujal_ | i just follow howtos |
| 00:36.24 | sujal_ | any idea? |
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| 00:48.58 | clopez | so pulseaudio fixed the popping sound by breaking the sound completely :) |
| 00:49.15 | sujal_ | yeah |
| 00:49.17 | sujal_ | well |
| 00:49.20 | sujal_ | yeah |
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| 00:50.40 | sujal_ | after my conclusion I could google pulse vs alsa not necessarly for rpi only I found some promising google hits. -- still sucks and gives me the impulse just to reinstall or skip the whole project |
| 00:50.44 | sujal_ | #damnit |
| 00:50.52 | clopez | my personal experience with pulseaudio is not good at all. Ever since and then the sound stopped working. One day I decided to remove it and replace it with alsa and never looked back. Since then I never had a problem with the sound |
| 00:51.17 | sujal_ | but alsa really has that damn power saving method |
| 00:51.30 | sujal_ | which somehow produces that noise |
| 00:52.14 | clopez | then look at disabling power saving for alsa |
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| 00:52.22 | sujal_ | well |
| 00:52.44 | sujal_ | sounds logical. but for some reason anyone else thought it would be easier to switch drivers |
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| 00:52.55 | sujal_ | can the raspbian community be that strange? |
| 00:53.21 | clopez | what you mean with that? |
| 00:53.40 | sujal_ | seems like I would be the first with that solution |
| 00:53.44 | sujal_ | the problem itself is common |
| 00:53.54 | sujal_ | anyone else switched to pulse for a solution |
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| 00:54.51 | clopez | don't know.. |
| 00:54.56 | clopez | perhaps you should ask on #raspbian |
| 00:55.02 | sujal_ | ^^yeah |
| 00:55.04 | sujal_ | thanks anyways |
| 00:55.15 | sujal_ | really appreciate your answer :) |
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| 00:55.19 | clopez | yu're welcome :) |
| 00:56.17 | frognot | did you look at the output of "aplay -l" before you installed pulse, and verify that you did not need an asound configuration file ? |
| 00:56.44 | stew | you guys should move this conversation to the right channel |
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| 00:58.42 | frognot | oh i see there was unwanted noise, nvm. |
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| 01:00.21 | MisterSamael | hi |
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| 02:15.22 | stooj | I am running exim and trying to diagnose an issue on my debian box. I can telnet to port 25 from an external machine, but not locally (telnet localhost 25), Other ports work though. Firewall is allowing 25 from anywhere atm. Any ideas what I am doing wrong? |
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| 02:19.44 | Tramp | stooj: no listener on localhost? |
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| 02:21.11 | abrotman | stooj: which firewall? |
| 02:21.26 | stooj | Tramp: Och, that might be it. Looking at netstat, looks like it is only listening on external connections |
| 02:21.34 | stooj | Tramp: Thanks :D |
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| 02:21.35 | Tramp | yw |
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| 02:34.11 | Bonez305 | how do I install a package again "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb" right? |
| 02:35.06 | abrotman | sure |
| 02:35.26 | Bonez305 | trolling me? |
| 02:35.32 | abrotman | man dpkg |
| 02:35.38 | abrotman | you apparently don't trust people |
| 02:36.14 | Bonez305 | strange i attempted to install openttd and i got a bunch of errors :/ |
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| 02:37.37 | codygman | I know that ubuntu uses upstart for managing services/daemonizing processes, but what does debian use? |
| 02:37.48 | abrotman | using dpkg is one method .. but it won't auto-resolve dependencies |
| 02:38.19 | Bonez305 | openttd depends on libicu44, liblzo2-2, libpng12-0, libdl1.2debian |
| 02:38.20 | Bonez305 | :/ |
| 02:38.27 | Bonez305 | understandable |
| 02:38.40 | mikehaas763 | What is the setting you have to set when using debian/ntp/linux in a virtual machine? |
| 02:38.47 | Bonez305 | so would i have to apt-get all these things? |
| 02:38.54 | Bonez305 | mikehaas763: me? |
| 02:39.00 | abrotman | Bonez305: or use something like aptitude/apt-get -f install |
| 02:39.42 | mikehaas763 | No, I'm just asking anyone |
| 02:40.14 | mikehaas763 | I was told by someone before IDK if it was here or #puppet but it was a setting you had to set because of when you shut a vm down |
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| 02:42.21 | mikehaas763 | ah, I figured it out possibly, tinker panic 0 |
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| 02:44.11 | Bonez305 | abrotman : last time i attempted to download openttd with apt-get it gave me a older version |
| 02:44.27 | Bonez305 | is there any way to check the file that will be download before installingit ? |
| 02:44.30 | abrotman | wasn't really what i said .. but okay |
| 02:45.40 | themill | Bonez305: trying to install packages that weren't designed for your release is going to end in tears |
| 02:47.08 | Bonez305 | I have debian 6 64bit, the newest openttd is 1.2.3 |
| 02:47.28 | abrotman | so where did you get the newer package? |
| 02:47.34 | Bonez305 | but what I'm saying is that last time I attempted to install thru apt-get it gave me a older version 1.0.4 or something |
| 02:47.53 | Bonez305 | downloaded it from their site and installed it by doing dpkg |
| 02:48.04 | abrotman | from what site? is it made for squeeze? |
| 02:48.13 | themill | ,v openttd --release squeeze |
| 02:48.14 | judd | Package: openttd on i386 -- squeeze: 1.0.4-6 |
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| 02:48.16 | Bonez305 | abrotman: of course :D |
| 02:48.22 | abrotman | not of course ... |
| 02:48.28 | themill | Bonez305: ^^ correct. that is the right version for squeeze. |
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| 02:49.19 | Bonez305 | sighs |
| 02:49.46 | dvs | Bonez305 means http://www.openttd.org/en/download-stable |
| 02:50.11 | Bonez305 | dvs: This guy knows his google. |
| 02:50.13 | Bonez305 | :D |
| 02:50.20 | abrotman | moreso than you |
| 02:50.48 | Bonez305 | If you say so, I guess I'm too stupid to understand... |
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| 02:51.20 | Bonez305 | So, how do I install this thing? |
| 02:51.41 | themill | Bonez305: "apt-get -f install" as described earlier |
| 02:52.15 | abrotman | hey, i said that! |
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| 02:54.11 | Bonez305 | So that would've gave me the dependencies from the beginning? Why didn't you say so? :D |
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| 02:54.39 | themill | ummm... abrotman did 15 minutes ago. |
| 02:54.59 | Bonez305 | Yea, I didn't see it. Hah |
| 02:55.05 | Bonez305 | abrotman: Thanks brother. |
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| 03:58.07 | nickhume | W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/www.deb-multimedia.org_dists_wheezy_main_binary-i386_Packages Hash Sum mismatch |
| 03:58.09 | nickhume | E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. |
| 03:58.11 | nickhume | First got this yesterday when doing 'apt-get update'. Surfing for solution came across an advice that this is due to the repo busy synchronising, have wait for it to finish. now i try again, the problem is still there. |
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| 04:03.17 | themill | nickhume: it looks fine to me on that repo. A common cause of this is also a misbehaving proxy between you and the repo |
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| 04:07.21 | nickhume | i don't use any proxy, as far as i know. unless my isp uses one. |
| 04:08.19 | pfred1 | comment it out of sources.list update then add it back in |
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| 04:09.36 | nickhume | yeah, that would be one way. but would i be missing out on update from that repo? |
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| 04:10.49 | pfred1 | nickhume uncomment it and update again |
| 04:11.08 | nickhume | ok, thanks. will try. |
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| 04:13.49 | nickhume | Now i get this: |
| 04:13.51 | nickhume | Reading package lists... Error! |
| 04:13.53 | nickhume | E: Encountered a section with no Package: header |
| 04:13.54 | nickhume | E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_wheezy_updates_main_i18n_Translation-en |
| 04:13.56 | nickhume | E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. |
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| 04:14.44 | nickhume | This is after commenting out the line. |
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| 04:17.28 | hellyeah | hey is there anyone use html tidy? |
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| 04:20.22 | nickhume | Now I get the same error msg even after uncomment that line. |
| 04:20.28 | Skaag | I'm trying to build a new package, why does it look for a source tarball one directory level above? |
| 04:20.37 | Skaag | I'm using debuild -uc -us |
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| 04:22.25 | tenzind | !grub |
| 04:22.25 | dpkg | [grub] GNU GRUB (GRand Unified Bootloader) 0.9x, aka GRUB Legacy. A powerful boot loader which can boot many OSes and understands many filesystems. To install: "aptitude install grub grub-doc" ("aptitude install grub-legacy grub-legacy-doc" for Squeeze). To reinstall, ask me about <fixmbr>. To migrate from LILO, ask about <lilo->grub>. See also <grub errors>, <grub2>, <supergrub>. http://wiki.debian.org/Grub |
| 04:23.31 | pfred1 | nickhume do you use aptitude update or apt-get update? |
| 04:24.03 | leirbag | how do I get the "armel" version of packages with xapt ? every time, it just get the i386 and amd64 :/. I have use the option "-a armel" and export ARCH too |
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| 04:25.32 | themill | leirbag: the emdebian folks will know that tool better |
| 04:25.42 | nickhume | i use apt-get update |
| 04:26.03 | leirbag | themill: that's true :), sorry |
| 04:26.27 | themill | leirbag: no stress -- it's just that you'll probably not find anyone here who has ever used it |
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| 04:27.52 | nickhume | pfred1: i tried with aptitude update, same err msg. |
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| 04:28.26 | pfred1 | nickhume I've had database problems in reverse I use aptitude but have had to use apt-get to repair it |
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| 04:28.57 | nickhume | pfred1: forgot to tell u, i am running wheezy. |
| 04:29.31 | pfred1 | nickhume wheezy probably still uses Debian's package management system |
| 04:30.15 | nickhume | u mean there is an alternative besides that? |
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| 04:32.48 | themill | nickhume: can you pastebin the full output as well as your sources.list and sources.list.d/* for us? |
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| 04:34.43 | nickhume | haven't done pastebin for a long time. how to do it? |
| 04:36.08 | pfred1 | nickhume just go to their site and copy paste text then hit the submit button |
| 04:36.17 | pfred1 | or there is pastebinit |
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| 04:37.27 | nickhume | ok, doing it. |
| 04:37.57 | pfred1 | apparently pastebinit depends on an untrusted package? |
| 04:38.17 | nickhume | got to sign-up first? |
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| 04:39.04 | nickhume | here's the err msg: |
| 04:39.06 | nickhume | Reading package lists... Error! |
| 04:39.07 | nickhume | E: Encountered a section with no Package: header |
| 04:39.09 | nickhume | E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_wheezy_updates_main_i18n_Translation-en |
| 04:39.10 | nickhume | E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. |
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| 04:39.48 | themill | can you pastebin that file? http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 04:39.50 | nickhume | here's my sources.list: |
| 04:39.51 | themill | pfred1: no |
| 04:39.52 | nickhume | deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free |
| 04:39.53 | nickhume | deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main |
| 04:39.54 | nickhume | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main |
| 04:39.56 | nickhume | #For Adobe reader |
| 04:39.57 | themill | dpkg: tell nickhume about paste |
| 04:39.57 | nickhume | deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free |
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| 04:40.49 | pfred1 | themill that is not what aptitude just got done informing me |
| 04:41.13 | themill | pfred1: that would happen if you'd previously had a problem with apt-get update or had removed the debian archive keyring from apt. |
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| 04:42.23 | pfred1 | themill I use aptitude update |
| 04:42.37 | themill | that doesn't change anything |
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| 04:42.53 | nickhume | I have them in paste.debian.net/245021 |
| 04:43.05 | pfred1 | themill apparently it does aptitude and apt-get are not exactly the same |
| 04:43.22 | themill | pfred1: no... both call libapt's update method. There's no difference here. |
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| 04:43.48 | themill | nickhume: does /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_wheezy_updates_main_i18n_Translation-en exist? can you pastebin its contents? |
| 04:43.49 | pfred1 | themill the nhow come I've had to run apt-get at times to repair what aptitude has tried to do? |
| 04:44.29 | themill | pfred1: "repair" is sufficiently vague as to be meaningless. |
| 04:44.49 | themill | (and doesn't change the fact that apt-get update and aptitude update are the same) |
| 04:45.09 | pfred1 | themill yes all this has happened sufficiently long ago that I do not remember all of the specific details other than I was prompted to run apt-get after a database failure |
| 04:45.48 | pfred1 | themill don't go trying to tell me what i have and haven't seen |
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| 04:47.32 | nickhume | themill: good question. will check and pastebin if exist. |
| 04:48.00 | themill | pfred1: I'm telling you how aptitude update and apt-get update work. I don't know what you saw, how you may have interpreted what you saw or how many releases ago this was. The important thing is that it's not relevant to nickhume's problem and I'd rather concentrate on that. |
| 04:48.07 | nickhume | pfred1, themill : don't quarrel. u two guys are great. |
| 04:49.08 | pfred1 | themill it may have happened when I ran Lenny |
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| 04:51.40 | negativerad | has anybody instaled nerdtree on vim 7.2.445 |
| 04:52.16 | nickhume | themill: its at paste.debian.net/245023 |
| 04:52.28 | themill | haha |
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| 04:53.49 | jelly-home | nickhume: "Thomson - SpeedTouch"? |
| 04:54.28 | themill | nickhume: buried in the middle of that is «Network Error... Your requested host could not be reached. Click on the link below to retry.» Your ISP is inserting some braindead helper page for pages that don't exist. I don't know if it's doing this at the protocol level or at the dns level. It's evil whatever it is. |
| 04:54.52 | jelly-home | s/ISP/router/, but yeah |
| 04:55.03 | jelly-home | or CPE in any case |
| 04:55.04 | themill | thanks, jelly-home |
| 04:55.20 | themill | "some bit of kit between apt and repo" |
| 04:56.47 | jelly-home | that's a bit of a broken firmware if it answers a GET request with a 200 |
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| 04:58.02 | WormFood | if I have something like 900 routes in my routing table, how much of a performance hit would that be? My router is only a 3 ghz machine, but I'm thinking it would probably be plenty fast enough to handle it. Anyone here have any experience with that? |
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| 05:01.37 | themill | nickhume: what does «wget -O /dev/null http://security.debian.org/dists/wheezy/updates/main/i18n/Translation-en» output? |
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| 05:07.36 | nickhume | themill: --2013-03-27 13:06:54-- http://security.debian.org/dists/wheezy/updates/main/i18n/Translation-en |
| 05:07.38 | nickhume | Resolving security.debian.org (security.debian.org)... 128.101.240.212, 149.20.20.6, 195.20.242.89, ... |
| 05:07.39 | nickhume | Connecting to security.debian.org (security.debian.org)|128.101.240.212|:80... connected. |
| 05:07.41 | nickhume | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found |
| 05:07.43 | nickhume | 2013-03-27 13:06:55 ERROR 404: Not Found. |
| 05:08.07 | nickhume | basically, error 404. page not found |
| 05:09.08 | themill | 404 is fine. Apt would cope with that just fine. |
| 05:09.45 | themill | (jtfr, that should be a 404 -- the security repo doesn't carry translations as they won't get updated in security updates) |
| 05:11.53 | nickhume | jelly-home: sorry, didn't notice your q earlier. yes, mine is a Thomson-Speedtouch. |
| 05:12.43 | nickhume | jelly-home: can this hardware be causing the update problem? |
| 05:13.16 | themill | nickhume: it would appear it is, yes. It's generating some sort of error page without generating the appropriate error code and is then giving it to apt. |
| 05:14.02 | nickhume | I have been using it for years. right now, i can still do almost anything online. |
| 05:14.30 | themill | nickhume: if you delete all the files from /var/lib/lists/ and /var/lib/lists/partial/, does "apt-get update" complete ok? |
| 05:14.59 | nickhume | well, that is a destructive test. |
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| 05:15.15 | nickhume | can i afford to lose all those files? |
| 05:15.31 | themill | unless you're worried about using up a limited bandwidth quota, yes. |
| 05:16.28 | nickhume | i am on unlimited access but deleting those files is a local process, right? |
| 05:16.47 | jelly-home | poor poor /var/lib/lists/lock |
| 05:17.10 | jelly-home | poor poor /var/lib/apt/lists/lock * |
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| 05:17.56 | nickhume | jelly-home: i have to delete those? |
| 05:18.11 | themill | nickhume: sure, and they should all get downloaded fine again by an apt-get update. Actually, you could just delete the ones in partial, most likely. |
| 05:18.40 | nickhume | ok, will try. |
| 05:18.41 | themill | hmm... no, ones not in partial are screwed up too |
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| 05:19.41 | jelly-home | rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*_* is safe |
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| 05:20.18 | jelly-home | (and avoids nuking the lock) |
| 05:20.42 | themill | I'm not going to stress about the lock file... apt will recreate the lock next run |
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| 05:26.22 | nickhume | ok, did a /var/lib/apt/lists/*_* and then apt-get update. no err now but the following igns. |
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| 05:26.24 | nickhume | Ign http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main Translation-en_US |
| 05:26.25 | nickhume | Ign http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main Translation-en |
| 05:26.27 | nickhume | Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy/main Translation-en_US |
| 05:26.28 | nickhume | Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy/main Translation-en |
| 05:26.30 | nickhume | Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy/non-free Translation-en_US |
| 05:26.31 | nickhume | Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy/non-free Translation-en |
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| 05:27.25 | themill | Ign just means "Ignore that it is missing" which is fine. Those repos aren't shipping separated translations. (also, please don't paste into the channel but use paste.debian.net -- it makes it easier to follow the conversation and to go back to previous information) |
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| 05:28.27 | nickhume | ok, but how did this happen? I have been installing packages from Debian sources, thro' apt-get. |
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| 05:31.58 | nickhume | you guys know when wheezy will be released? |
| 05:33.08 | KsM | in a month or two maybe |
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| 05:34.34 | nickhume | jelly-home, themill: thanks for the help. my problem solved. |
| 05:35.38 | themill | have fun! |
| 05:36.37 | nickhume | one last one, perhap. whats' the diff between *_* and *.* in file spec? |
| 05:36.59 | themill | one is matching files with a _ in them, the other is matching files with a . in them |
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| 06:52.57 | lae | I'm trying to downgrade a kernel (in wheezy) but I keep getting a "couldn't find package" message - and here's what I've tried: http://privatepaste.com/51aaadab44 |
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| 07:02.38 | lispghost | how can I install gtk+3.0 in debian |
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| 07:47.09 | huwenfeng | Hi friends, Maybe I should not ask the question here, but I do not know where to go. Where could I have the infomation about network problem for a specific country? For example, We have monitored that the network in Saudi Arabia has big packet loss, but we'd like to know more about this issue. Any place to track these kind of messages? |
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| 07:58.20 | benje | hi i found an other way to pass out the firewire bug ;) with last kernel update on satellitte a60 firewire_ohci.quirck=32 |
| 07:59.27 | benje | if ti can help i will do a post on blog i post the dmesg too |
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| 08:02.17 | benje | at least to boot with irq enable ;) to get network |
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| 08:06.06 | benje | sorry too happy x) firewire_ohci.quirks=32 |
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| 08:39.59 | jamistemp | I'm trying to boot a custom kernel using the Debian uboot initrd with uboot. I can't get the kernel to see the initrd. I think my boot args are wrong... |
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| 09:02.02 | arvind_khadri | Hi, I have enabled squeeze-backports. Aptitude tells me that libavcodec53 will break mplayer, and that it will remove vlc and gstreamer-ffmpeg. How do I not upgrade libavcodec53? |
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| 09:03.12 | Coke | Trying to setup virtual hosts using Debians config scheme, I have the two sites enabled yet I get "NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts" even though I clearly have virtualhost directives in those sites. |
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| 09:03.35 | Coke | This works fine on archlinux, slackware and any other apache install that does not use the debian config scheme, how do I make Debian configs work? |
| 09:03.49 | Coke | (apache2 if unclear) |
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| 09:04.51 | Coke | I define <VirtualHost *:80> in the config, as should be. |
| 09:06.41 | subthalamus | on RHEL, /usr/bin/package-cleanup --oldkernels --count=3 is simple one liner to remove old kernels |
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| 09:06.50 | rabbieth | apachectl -S |
| 09:06.52 | subthalamus | is there an equivalent or better on deb? |
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| 09:08.15 | rabbieth | Coke: and in what folder do you put your configs? |
| 09:09.11 | rabbieth | raises a sign "freelance admin wants work" and winks to Coke |
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| 09:09.42 | Coke | rabbieth: virtual.conf (with the NameVirtualHost) in conf.d, using sites-enabled as done by the a2ensite binary |
| 09:09.54 | Coke | rabbieth: eh. honestly. setting up virtual hosts with any non-debian system is a walk in the park |
| 09:10.04 | Coke | Only debian need extra scripts to manage the complexity which is it's config scheme |
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| 09:12.24 | rabbieth | hehe :) maybe it just doesn't load the config files? grep -r ^Include /etc/apache2 should give some clues |
| 09:12.49 | rabbieth | My grep said: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf:Include sites-enabled/ |
| 09:13.47 | rabbieth | And NameVirtualHost is usually placed in ports.conf on deb |
| 09:13.58 | Coke | rabbieth: it says include yep |
| 09:14.16 | rabbieth | hmm |
| 09:14.39 | ksuhku | arvind_khadri, perhaps some pinning could help, see e.g. http://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences |
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| 09:15.04 | arvind_khadri | ksuhku, I did a hold. |
| 09:15.36 | Coke | It says "NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts" and then it always goes to the first virtualhost |
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| 09:16.36 | rabbieth | are you sure that your vhosts are defined as <VirtualHost *:80> ? |
| 09:16.47 | rabbieth | if so, i don't even know what can be a problem |
| 09:17.20 | rabbieth | apachectl -t could help with syntax checking |
| 09:17.55 | Coke | rabbieth: FOUND IT |
| 09:18.13 | Coke | Seems like NameVirtualHost was already defined in ports.conf |
| 09:18.26 | nkuttler | anybody else noticed that recently selecting something in chromium doesn't copy it to the x selections? this is so incredibly annoying |
| 09:18.29 | Coke | if you have that directive multiple times, apache will say it has no virtualhosts |
| 09:18.30 | nkuttler | should file a bug |
| 09:18.55 | rabbieth | heh, yeah :) |
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| 09:19.03 | Coke | It makes absoloutely no sense at all, the warning doesnt even try to hint at multiple defs, instead throws another warning that is completely unrelated |
| 09:19.24 | rabbieth | gives nginx to Coke |
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| 09:19.29 | rabbieth | ;) |
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| 09:20.16 | huwenfeng | We got a ridiculous problem. If I ping a machine normally, it could reach the machine. If I ping with big packet size(bigger than 1500), then the packet will be lost. What might be the problem? |
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| 09:20.38 | Coke | rabbieth: 15 years ago, being a unix admin was a breeze. |
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| 09:22.12 | rabbieth | huwenfeng: can you see that packet on dst-host via tcpdump? |
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| 09:25.32 | huwenfeng | rabbieth: I try it now. |
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| 09:28.28 | huwenfeng | rabbieth: Yes, I can see it ion the dst-host via tcpdump. |
| 09:28.39 | huwenfeng | It seems that the icmp-reply packet could not get back. |
| 09:28.55 | huwenfeng | But with small packets, it is OK. |
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| 09:30.51 | rabbieth | then i guess problem is in firewall or some sysctls :) |
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| 09:31.49 | rabbieth | i remember there were some sysctls about jumboframes and big icmp packets, but i don't remember what are their names exactly |
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| 09:33.14 | huwenfeng | rabbieth: thanks, maybe its jumbo frmaes |
| 09:33.59 | rabbieth | yw :) |
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| 09:57.01 | ivankv | hello guys/girls! Could someone advice how to troubleshoot internal microphoe disability on laptop lenovo edge 330? It must have been on usb bus? The thing is microphone is inside my laptop, so actually I'm not seeing it, but occasionally it worked some time ago.. |
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| 10:01.30 | joe12 | Hello, I'm using debian wheezy and can not find a clang-doc package. Does anybody knows if such a package exists? |
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| 10:12.59 | lapache | Hello, Is it possible to generate a full report of a debian server ? |
| 10:13.54 | jeredepp | hello, i got a folder which i currently sync with unison, but every change should be synced immediatly, is there somekind of "daemon" for it so i don't have to wait 1 minute till it syncs? |
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| 10:16.41 | nkuttler | lapache: report of what? |
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| 10:17.27 | lapache | nkuttler, a full/verbose report of the system state, installed packages, open ports, mounts ... |
| 10:17.49 | afsal | hi, plz sugest any good book to study debian c programming for intermediate |
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| 10:18.41 | nkuttler | lapache: it sounds like you want something like nagios |
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| 10:19.08 | nkuttler | lapache: or maybe just a simple shell script... |
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| 10:19.56 | lapache | nkuttler, yeah in fact something like check-mk you'r right ill give it a try |
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| 10:20.20 | derric | How do you find out the version of a lib. libmodver or some such thing? |
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| 10:25.38 | afsal | hi, which is the best linux 'c' programming book for intermediate |
| 10:25.46 | afsal | hi, plz sugest any good book to study debian c programming for intermediate |
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| 10:33.09 | MoonTiger | hi guys :) |
| 10:33.31 | MoonTiger | anybody else suddenly unable to start skype? all i get is "aborted" if i run form the cmdline |
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| 10:33.49 | j0d3_ | hi |
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| 10:36.15 | MoonTiger | uhhhh looks like some of the 32 libs haven't been updated yet *sigh* |
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| 10:40.28 | derric | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:40.35 | ootput | k&r |
| 10:40.40 | derric | Still have yet to unbreak it. |
| 10:40.42 | Iridos | sounds painful |
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| 10:40.57 | derric | It's just annoying. |
| 10:41.06 | Iridos | of course. you said it's skype |
| 10:41.31 | derric | M$ bought skype for 7 billion dollars. |
| 10:41.49 | derric | It could have built something better for that amount of money. |
| 10:42.22 | derric | Gate, up to his old tricks of eliminate the competition again... |
| 10:42.32 | derric | s/Gate/Gates |
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| 10:42.54 | derric | By buying them this time. |
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| 10:43.20 | derric | The priviledge of success aye? |
| 10:43.24 | MoonTiger | wow now pulling in a whole bunch of 32bit libs just for skype - is that right? |
| 10:43.39 | afsal | hi, plz sugest any good book to study debian c programming for intermediate |
| 10:44.09 | MoonTiger | yah i'm waiting for MS to completely shut out anything but windows and osx from skype |
| 10:44.34 | Iridos | afsal, /join ##c read topic? |
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| 10:46.47 | wolfehr | are there any repo's still available for etch these days? The http://archive.debian.org etch/ repo's don't seem to work any more |
| 10:47.14 | Iridos | dpkg, etch sources.list |
| 10:47.14 | dpkg | [etch sources.list] "deb http://archive.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free" and "deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-security etch/updates main contrib non-free". But realise that Etch has not had security support since February 2010 and that you should upgrade to a newer release. Ask me about <etch->lenny>. |
| 10:47.23 | Iridos | hmm |
| 10:48.07 | Iridos | /debian missing in your version? |
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| 10:48.36 | wolfehr | e.g. deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ etch main non-free contrib |
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| 10:50.04 | Iridos | seems to be all there, what's not working |
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| 10:50.56 | ootput | afsal: debian 'c' programming? |
| 10:51.49 | Iridos | ootput, that was just in time... but anyway, ##c has a link to their wiki with a whole page full of book suggestions... that should do? |
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| 11:51.19 | eni23 | hello. mabye one can help me quick. i plugged an lan device directly into notebooks lan port. i know that the device has address 10.2.20.51. how to use ifconfig that i can access this ip? |
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| 11:53.12 | lapache | eni23, ifconfig eth0 10.1.1.1 |
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| 11:55.25 | Deivan | Hello. I have a old hard. What is the best version of the kernell to old machines? |
| 11:55.41 | Deivan | Hardware like 500MHz, 64MB. |
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| 11:57.44 | lhy | what gcc version should I use to compile QT apps in wheezy? (using gcc7.1 and libstdc++6 4.7.2-5, I get undefined reference to symbol '__cxa_rethrow@@CXXABI_1.3' ) |
| 11:58.04 | ectospasm | Deivan: use an i686 kernel, with a minimal install, or choose a light (LXDE,XFCE,etc.) desktop environment for it. |
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| 12:00.15 | Deivan | I have a minimal install, without x. But the kernell don't start. Without error. |
| 12:00.32 | Deivan | Only stop after load and still with a blinking cursor at screen... :-/ |
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| 12:02.08 | ectospasm | Deivan: it's probably not loading the kernel, then. |
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| 12:03.37 | gnude | are there news about a release date or any ideas? |
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| 12:04.27 | ectospasm | gnude: as always, it will be released when it's ready. No release date has been scheduled. |
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| 12:08.53 | gnude | extospasm: thanks. i know. last release it was announced one week before at identica. but i am not sure if it is this time again. how long befor the release it is normaly announced at idenitca? |
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| 12:14.48 | sonkey4 | gnude well we are down to 55 release critical bugs, and averaging about 5 reduced a day |
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| 12:15.27 | sonkey4 | April/May release would be my bet |
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| 12:16.08 | sonkey4 | I'm running Wheezy XFCE now and looks great |
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| 12:19.33 | gnude | so not this weekend..... |
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| 12:33.28 | jelly | lhy: well, this is C++ code, so which g++ and libstdc++*-dev do you have installed and use? |
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| 12:35.10 | jelly | lhy: a stupid generic suggestion would be to install build-essential, make clean and try again |
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| 12:47.06 | buscon | Hi, i'd like to change file permissions but just for directories |
| 12:47.11 | buscon | how can I do that with bash? |
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| 12:49.09 | jelly | buscon: use find to select only directories, then do an operation on them. http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind#Actions_in_bulk:_xargs.2C_-print0_and_-exec_.2B- |
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| 12:49.51 | jelly | buscon: eg. find . -type d -print0 | xargs -0 echo chmod 755 |
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| 12:50.49 | xwalk | For some reason my hard drive is reporting that it has no more room for storage. For some reason home seems to be located in the root directory. Did I partition this disk wrong? http://imgur.com/f499acj,6n588eh |
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| 12:51.21 | xwalk | I run a samba share on this machine which is probably configured extremely poorly, I'm wondering if that has something to do with it. |
| 12:51.50 | b2w | can i use debian apt's for my academic project? |
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| 12:52.41 | jelly | buscon: the example command above has an "echo" that makes it not do anything harmful. When the output suggests it would do what you want it to, you can remove that word to make it actually execute the commands and do stuff |
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| 12:53.14 | b2w | is there any restrictions in using debian apt's |
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| 12:53.43 | jelly | b2w: using, not really. Redistribution, some restrictions apply. |
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| 12:54.23 | babilen | xwalk: The output of "df -h" might be of interest. (→ http://paste.debian.net ) |
| 12:54.52 | jelly | b2w: apt is licensed under GPLv2 or newer, so you have to comply with that. |
| 12:55.19 | b2w | what about zbarimg? |
| 12:55.52 | jelly | b2w: what is zbarimg |
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| 12:56.36 | b2w | jelly,its a command line tool to decode qrcodes |
| 12:56.39 | xwalk | http://paste.debian.net/245113. It looks like my root directory is completely full looking at df -h... |
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| 12:56.46 | jelly | b2w: is it part of Debian? |
| 12:57.23 | buscon | jelly thanks :) |
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| 12:57.52 | ChrisH | xwalk: yes it looks that way. |
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| 12:58.17 | b2w | jelly, i am not sure about it,....but i installed using the command :"sudo apt-get install zbarimg" |
| 12:58.36 | xwalk | ChrisH: Is there a way that I could somehow resize that partition? |
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| 12:59.02 | jelly | b2w: you can look up the license for every Debian package in /usr/share/doc/zbarimg/copyright file. |
| 12:59.06 | ChrisH | xwalk: without LVM its diffivult. 300MB is pretty small |
| 12:59.08 | jelly | er. |
| 12:59.15 | jelly | b2w: you can look up the license for every Debian package in /usr/share/doc/PACKAGE NAME HERE/copyright file. |
| 12:59.37 | ChrisH | xwalk: is this a fresh installation? |
| 12:59.50 | jelly | ,v zbarimg |
| 12:59.51 | judd | No package named 'zbarimg' was found in i386. |
| 13:00.12 | xwalk | ChrisH: This machines been up for a few months. My roommates wanted some sort of share for music so I set it up (kind of) and we kind of forgot about it. |
| 13:00.13 | jelly | b2w: that package does not seem to be part of any active Debian release. |
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| 13:00.39 | b2w | jelly then how is it working in my ubuntu terminal? |
| 13:00.59 | ChrisH | xwalk: If possible consider reinstallation using LVM from scratch. |
| 13:01.22 | jelly | b2w: well, Ubuntu is different from Debian. |
| 13:01.35 | lapache | How to know the full path of a file eg: "$ path ../plugins" returns "/usr/local/nagios/plugins" |
| 13:01.41 | xwalk | ChrisH: I don't think that should be too much of an issue seeing as how it's just backups of music files. Thanks for the help. |
| 13:02.01 | b2w | jelly is it? then why all ubuntu packages has an extension .deb? |
| 13:02.28 | jelly | b2w: they share the same packaging format. |
| 13:02.40 | armin | renaming a file to .sh doesn't make it a shellscript. |
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| 13:02.56 | ChrisH | xwalk: then do a fresh installation, use LVM and keep disk space unassigned. Then you can increase your volumes/filesystems if needed. OK? |
| 13:03.11 | b2w | jelly then how can i know whether i can use those tools for my project? |
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| 13:03.21 | xwalk | ChrisH: Gotcha. |
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| 13:03.41 | jelly | b2w: well, ask ubuntu people about where to find the licensing details for their packages. |
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| 13:04.19 | jelly | b2w: it might be in the same place as on Debian, it might be somewhere else. I haven't investigated it really. |
| 13:04.30 | b2w | jelly do you know about espeak? |
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| 13:06.08 | jelly | b2w: please look at files installed on your system before asking about further packages, and see if the licensing details are already present. |
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| 13:07.02 | jelly | b2w: also, this channel is about Debian tech support. If you can reproduce your issues on Debian proper, and cannot find licensing details for some package, someone will jump in to help. |
| 13:08.06 | jelly | b2w: I don't know anything about espeak personally. |
| 13:08.25 | b2w | jelly the license says that i can redistribute and modify the package.....is it ok? |
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| 13:10.45 | b2w | jelly i found the license os that tool and it says that i can redistribute and modify the package if it is useful........... |
| 13:10.58 | fico | Hello team, |
| 13:11.18 | jelly | b2w: ok to do what? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Free_Software_Guidelines DFSG requires no restrictions for mere usage, so if you only plan to use stuff, you're safe to do that with any software present in Debian. |
| 13:11.30 | fico | Can anyone be so kind to help me out with a debian netinstall that got stuck at scanning disk in starting up partitioner? |
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| 13:12.43 | b2w | jelly i am going to use it as a part of my project....is it ok? |
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| 13:14.28 | jelly | b2w: you can answer that yourself. If the software is part of Debian, you can _use_ it for whatever you want. If it's not part of Debian, you can still check its licensing. See also http://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses |
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| 13:19.02 | jelly | b2w: as far as I know, most software in Ubuntu falls under DFSG as well, but not all of it, so check each one you need or ask in an Ubuntu channel about it. |
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| 13:27.20 | tw | how do I allow a single non-console user to start X and still allow regular console users to start X? |
| 13:27.49 | tw | create suid script runnable by a group only that user is in, or what? |
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| 13:37.46 | tw | rabbieth: ideally it'd be running with the users permissions and not roots perms. It seems to cause problems when I switch between logging in as console and starting x remotely from ssh. |
| 13:38.05 | tw | (using the suid script, did not try with sudo) |
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| 13:58.30 | frognot_ | so i finally got my debootstrap installs to have a / and a /boot and work correctly, and automatically with a single script. And am ready to address getting encryption to work. Do i need a special intramfs? And do i need to install cryptsetup into the debootstrap chroot? |
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| 14:01.12 | krofna | I used "Remote Desktop Viewer" to connect to a remote Windows 7 machine, but I get really small screen |
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| 14:01.25 | krofna | If I press fullscreen it doesnt scale, but instead rest of the screen is black |
| 14:01.45 | frognot_ | here is what I have so far if anyone wants to check it out. just requires a usb with / and /boot http://paste.debian.net/245125/ |
| 14:02.12 | krofna | How can I increase resolution :/? |
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| 14:03.04 | frognot_ | would like to add cryptsetp and all that to this... if anyone can help a bit. I am sort of lost |
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| 14:05.22 | frognot_ | I know how to open the / partition with cryptsetup and then make a filesystem on it, and then debootstrap to it |
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| 14:06.57 | frognot_ | and i will include the cryptsetup program, but are there and modules i need to activate.. also do i need a special intramfs ? |
| 14:08.42 | DexterF | I haven't come across a uefi machine yet, from what I read it's a hassle to install linux alongside win8 - how so? i thought one can disable secure boot? |
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| 14:29.48 | r00t-err0r | can anyone help me ? |
| 14:29.48 | r00t-err0r | http://paste.debian.net/245137/ |
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| 14:31.19 | Ristovski | can I register a self-compiled package via apt/dpkg? |
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| 14:31.38 | stew | Ristovski: what do you mean by "register"? |
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| 14:31.43 | stew | install? |
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| 14:32.06 | anomaly | I was having issues with zoneminder, are there any other linux based ip cam monitoring software? I do not need to record just connect to the ips of my cams. |
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| 14:33.35 | stew | r00t-err0r: #python is probably a better place to ask |
| 14:33.41 | Ristovski | stew: no, I want apt to not reinstall the package I have compiled |
| 14:34.00 | Ristovski | stew: I have compiled gimp on my own, but gimp-plugin-registry would reinstall it |
| 14:34.45 | stew | Ristovski: you created a .deb? did you make the version unique from any in apt? |
| 14:35.08 | Ristovski | stew: I did not create a .deb, I compiled the code and make install'ed it |
| 14:35.22 | stew | Ristovski: /msg dpkg equivs |
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| 14:35.56 | Ristovski | hmm, Ill try |
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| 14:40.28 | anomaly | nothing then, I take it? |
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| 14:47.31 | Ristovski | stew: hmm, is there a different way? |
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| 14:48.53 | Iridos | Ristovski, why have you compiled gimp |
| 14:49.22 | Ristovski | Iridos: because I compiled the latest version that is still not in the repos |
| 14:49.29 | Ristovski | aka 2.9 |
| 14:49.40 | Iridos | judd, versions gimp |
| 14:49.41 | judd | Package: gimp on i386 -- squeeze: 2.6.10-1+squeeze3; squeeze-security: 2.6.10-1+squeeze3; wheezy: 2.8.2-2; sid: 2.8.4-1 |
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| 14:49.54 | babilen | dpkg: tell Ristovski -about uupdate |
| 14:49.57 | babilen | dpkg: tell Ristovski -about stow usage |
| 14:49.59 | Iridos | right :) |
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| 14:50.14 | babilen | Ristovski: Might want to look into these tools in addition to equivs. |
| 14:50.39 | Iridos | Ristovski, the cleanest would be to make your own package... starting off of the lastest debian package, e.g. with uupdate |
| 14:50.41 | Ristovski | ok |
| 14:51.00 | Ristovski | I'll try it later, kinda busy now |
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| 14:54.19 | Ristovski | hmm, now I need to find out how to compile the damn plugins registry for gimp |
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| 15:07.44 | petn-randall | babilen: sweet, I didn't know about uupdate. |
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| 15:11.24 | babilen | petn-randall: Read the NMG and Developer's Reference for lots of hidden gems |
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| 15:19.02 | penguin1 | hi |
| 15:19.04 | penguin1 | I want a minimal system from debian installer: d-i base-installer/install-recommends boolean false |
| 15:19.23 | penguin1 | the option doesn't work. the installer installs a full-blown desktop system with office, printing system, games, etc |
| 15:19.26 | penguin1 | this is not what I want |
| 15:19.31 | penguin1 | why is the option ignored? |
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| 15:19.52 | jordanm | did you select the desktop task? |
| 15:20.02 | jordanm | the desktop task declare depends, not recommends |
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| 15:21.18 | penguin1 | wait |
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| 15:21.35 | penguin1 | #tasksel tasksel/desktop multiselect kde, xfce |
| 15:21.38 | penguin1 | it is commented out |
| 15:21.48 | penguin1 | or do I have to explicitely declare a minimal task? |
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| 15:22.58 | jordanm | I assume you are talking about preseeding, I am not sure |
| 15:23.11 | penguin1 | yes |
| 15:23.19 | penguin1 | unattended installation |
| 15:23.27 | jordanm | the desktop and standard tasks are enabled by default in the d-i interface, so you probably have to explicitly not select them in the preseed |
| 15:23.53 | penguin1 | to be honest, the debian installer is bloated |
| 15:24.02 | petn-randall | o.O |
| 15:24.08 | penguin1 | they should decouple base system installation and user-friendly task crap |
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| 15:25.00 | stew | and if we did that, people would complain when it was missing |
| 15:25.11 | anddam | is there a groupware package in Debian's repository? I'm searching for something from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_collaborative_software with an apt installation |
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| 15:26.17 | penguin1 | stew: couldn't they separate the base installation? and for user friendly installations they put the gui stuff on the top of it |
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| 15:26.32 | petn-randall | anddam: Use 'apt-cache search' to go through the list. |
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| 15:27.13 | stew | penguin1: is it not that way already? |
| 15:27.37 | stew | it installs the base software, then asks what else you want to install, right? |
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| 15:27.58 | nkuttler | i think he doesn't want a gui in the installer |
| 15:28.13 | nkuttler | (which is quite useless anyway) |
| 15:28.28 | petn-randall | Well, ncurses is also GUI. |
| 15:28.49 | nkuttler | if you count ascii art as graphics.. |
| 15:28.52 | frikinz_ | Hi. If I want to put a netinst on a usb stick, what am I supposed to take? I'm reading at the MANIFEST file in squeeze installer. hd-media/boot.img.gz and ungz then dd this to the stick? |
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| 15:29.28 | stew | frikinz_: just cp the iso to the stick |
| 15:29.39 | stew | frikinz_: or dd instead of cp if you insist |
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| 15:30.05 | Iridos | frikinz_, it's also described here (along other ways) http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03 |
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| 15:32.02 | frikinz_ | Ok. mini.iso. hope its really mini cause I have a mini stick :) I wouldn't need the graphical installer. |
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| 15:32.39 | stew | frikinz_: how mini is the stick? (it will still contain the graphical installer, just not the base packages) |
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| 15:34.08 | grlpx | hello all, what if I need to copy to my server more then 1000 files at the same time from different locations, and I want the copy to succeed and the server to stay responsive? does use of specific software could help? |
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| 15:35.15 | petn-randall | grlpx: use rsync and use ionice/renice to give the process a low priority. |
| 15:35.59 | grlpx | ionice, interesting, I will go to take a look |
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| 15:36.39 | grlpx | renice there is no need since I get 900 ssh open connections and they take 0.00% of cpu each |
| 15:37.29 | petn-randall | grlpx: SSH will as soon as it's starts encrypting/decrypting the data you're copying. |
| 15:37.33 | frikinz_ | stew: probably 256MB. I see the netinst.iso is 221Mo. didn't find a mini.iso |
| 15:37.48 | petn-randall | grlpx: an idle SSH connection of course will take next to zero CPU. |
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| 15:42.13 | grlpx | let that I want to run those two programs on the server before starting to copy |
| 15:42.13 | grlpx | ionice -c 3 -p $$ |
| 15:42.13 | grlpx | renice +12 -p $$ |
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| 15:42.30 | grlpx | where $$ would be sshd used by rsync |
| 15:42.37 | grlpx | can I do that from remote? |
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| 15:46.13 | grlpx | oh, I will use --bwlimit=KBPS |
| 15:46.55 | _0bitcount | frikinz_, if you don't mind doing it all from the network from the beginning, there is the businesscard.iso, 46 MB only. |
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| 15:49.53 | stew | if he can fit the netinst, there is no reason to choose the businesscard |
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| 15:52.47 | petn-randall | grlpx: You can log in onto the remote machine and use ionice/renice on the process there, too. |
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| 15:53.29 | grlpx | yes but that would be a big effort |
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| 15:54.15 | petn-randall | o.O |
| 15:54.40 | _0bitcount | stew, since, in any case, much of the packages will be downloaded from the network, it would be faster to just download the businesscard. |
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| 15:59.01 | stew | _0bitcount: when you use the businesscard, the first thing it does is download everything that is on the netinst that is not on the businesscard. if you then start over, you download all that stuff AGAIN, why not just download the netinst once and be done with it |
| 15:59.29 | stew | netinst is poorly named in that it is the minimal set that DOESN'T require a network |
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| 16:02.19 | _0bitcount | stew, I see your point, netinst includes base packages. I only suggested it because, apparently, he/she wasn't sure about USB-drive size. |
| 16:02.28 | anddam | petn-randall: thank but my issue is more about what keyword I should use to perform the search. And I switched to aptitude search a while ago |
| 16:02.36 | anddam | thanks* |
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| 16:07.48 | anddam | I see kolab, citadel and evolution |
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| 16:13.36 | simpleirc | hello guys I have a question unrelated to linux . I have a 2 gig ram stick and a 1 gig ram stick plugged inot my mobo. but it only registers 2 gigs. if I unplug the 2 gig it says 1 gig which tells me both rams are working. does anyone have any idea how to make all the ram show up? |
| 16:14.18 | zykotick9 | simpleirc: ##hardware might be able to help |
| 16:14.28 | socomm | simpleirc: does your mother board support more than 2 gigs? |
| 16:14.34 | Yakko | question guys, if there are 10 processes writing in a test.log file, how can I move (not copy) it's content to a test.log.backup and leave that file empty for my next backup? |
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| 16:15.33 | zykotick9 | Yakko: "mv test.log test.log.backup && touch test.log" two step process |
| 16:15.34 | anddam | is there a "category" field in APT? |
| 16:15.56 | Yakko | zykotick9: then the 10 process won't write in the file anymore |
| 16:16.21 | socomm | Yakko: move the file, create file, chattr to make it readonly |
| 16:16.32 | zykotick9 | Yakko: ok. i have no idea then. good luck. |
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| 16:17.04 | stew | anddam: there is Section, and there are tags |
| 16:17.20 | Yakko | zykotick9 socomm you guys think I might lose some streamed data by mv a.log b.log && echo "" > a.log |
| 16:17.21 | Yakko | ? |
| 16:17.49 | socomm | Yakko: if processes are continually writting to it, of course |
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| 16:18.22 | stew | Yakko: why echo? |
| 16:18.39 | anddam | stew: I was trying to find neighbours to citadel-suite, I see it's in "mail" category that may not be very descriptive in my case |
| 16:18.47 | anddam | stew: how do I display a package's tags? |
| 16:18.54 | Yakko | stew: cuz I don't know better to clear the file |
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| 16:20.01 | Yakko | socomm: stew is there a command to make the processes wait until I safely clear the file? |
| 16:20.04 | socomm | http://www.canonical.com/content/canonical-and-chinese-standards-body-announce-ubuntu-collaboration |
| 16:20.11 | anddam | stew: s/category/Section/ |
| 16:20.23 | socomm | Yakko: you could try suspending the process |
| 16:20.40 | socomm | Yakko: why exactly are trying to this though, it sounds kinda odd |
| 16:20.44 | anddam | Yakko: or you could log through logging facility |
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| 16:21.44 | stew | anddam: install debtags then "apt-cache show packagename" or "debtags show packagename" |
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| 16:21.51 | Yakko | socomm anddam I just want a safe way to backup my log files because I need to inspect them for this web app |
| 16:21.52 | stew | anddam: /msg dpkg debtags ; /msg dpkg axi-cache |
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| 16:22.35 | stew | Yakko: i'm not sure I understand why you want to throw away log messages |
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| 16:25.27 | stew | Yakko: typically what you would do is to "mv a.log b.log" and then your processes will be writing to b.log until they reopen the log file, at the point when they reopen the logfile, they switch to the new a.log. a well behaved program should do this when receiving a HUP |
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| 16:25.33 | anddam | stew: thanks, btw I found http://wiki.debian.org/Groupware as well |
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| 16:26.00 | Yakko | stew: I could very well just copy the log file and download it via ssh or whatever, but I don't want to have repeated content in different backups |
| 16:26.02 | anddam | stew: I think is exactly worried by the open descriptors |
| 16:26.02 | stew | after all the processes have gotten HUP and are now writing to the new a.log, you can process/backup/whatever b.log |
| 16:26.16 | anddam | s/is /he is / |
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| 16:38.53 | sparadokos | when upgrading to wheezy from squeeze. Can I keep the lines I have in my source.list but change from squeeze to wheezy in them? I'm guessing backports will be enabled at some point? |
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| 16:39.44 | tacoman | I have a udev rule that launches a script that, after mounting a USB drive, calls dpkg on a file. this script runs perfectly when I run it manually, but when run by udev it mounts the drive without issue, but dpkg has no effect on the system |
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| 16:40.16 | stew | sparadokos: you should be following chapter 4 of the wheezy release notes |
| 16:40.17 | tacoman | I've tried redirecting script and dpkg output to files so I could get info about what was going on, but it just results in empty files when run by udev. (I get full and normal output from running manually) |
| 16:40.39 | tacoman | how do I even begin to debug this when the script isn't even producing any output I can read? |
| 16:40.49 | sparadokos | stew: ;) Then I'm on the right track :) That's what I'm reading now |
| 16:41.00 | babilen | dpkg: tell sparadokos -about release notes wheezy |
| 16:41.04 | stew | excellent |
| 16:41.11 | sparadokos | thanks! |
| 16:41.55 | babilen | sparadokos: Ah, okay :) sorry for the bot-spam then. If you would like us to check your sources.list you can paste them on http://paste.debian.net -- Also read "/msg dpkg make wheezy sources.list" if you'd like further information. |
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| 16:43.23 | sparadokos | paste.debian.net/245166/ |
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| 16:43.45 | sparadokos | I have not changed anything yet. But was under and still reading! That the squeeze is what needs to be changed. |
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| 16:45.58 | babilen | sparadokos: Oh dear … You have a lot of unsupported third party repositories in there. No idea how they will behave and some of them (e.g. the firefox, vbox, ) are completely unnecessary. They are, however, currently commented and you /might/ have nothing installed from therre. |
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| 16:47.27 | babilen | sparadokos: The backports configuration also changed as backports is not on the official mirrors, so you'd use something like "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-backports main contrib non-free" these days. (wheezy-backports is currently empty) |
| 16:47.28 | sparadokos | I download firfox and vbox and install them manually. I only keep it in the source so I remember at a later time. |
| 16:47.56 | sparadokos | babilen: would it hurt to have it listed even though it is empty? |
| 16:48.14 | babilen | sparadokos: Why did you install firefox? Debian provides Iceweasel and our packages are (AFAIK) much better integrated into the system. See http://mozilla.debian.net if you require newer versions. |
| 16:48.29 | babilen | sparadokos: No, it wouldn't hurt. There are even discussions to enable it by default |
| 16:49.25 | sparadokos | I test with iceweasel, chrome, firefox and opera on web pages I make. That's the only reason I use the the firfox package. |
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| 16:49.53 | babilen | ah, okay ... iceweasel /is/ firefox with a different name though |
| 16:50.04 | apm1 | and a much older version |
| 16:50.08 | sparadokos | babilen: makes the boss happy :p |
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| 16:50.12 | apm1 | and supposedly stable too |
| 16:50.35 | babilen | sparadokos: Well, it's just that we naturally cannot test/support those third-party packages or make any assumptions about how they influence the upgrade. |
| 16:51.03 | sparadokos | np, I'm getting better at tracking problems down and fixing things. Still learning :) |
| 16:51.11 | babilen | apm1: You can install beta, aurora versions along with the newest releases and all extended support releases of Iceweasel just fine. |
| 16:51.20 | babilen | apm1: Take a look at http://mozilla.debian.net |
| 16:51.41 | babilen | sparadokos: Let me paste a "complete" wheezy sources.list for you (so you have a reference) |
| 16:52.53 | sparadokos | thanks!!!! |
| 16:53.20 | babilen | sparadokos: http://paste.debian.net/245167/ ← that should contain everything you'll ever need. What I did not include is wheezy-proposed-updates (staging area for upcoming point releases) |
| 16:53.23 | sparadokos | I was looking and found 4 that are used. Seems the backports and security ones would also be used. |
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| 16:53.32 | sparadokos | nice! |
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| 16:54.12 | sparadokos | babilen: that answers the questions I have. ty! |
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| 16:55.26 | sam-lap | hi guys |
| 16:55.31 | sam-lap | i've a little problem here |
| 16:55.48 | sam-lap | i've a vps and after a while ssh stops responding |
| 16:55.58 | sam-lap | and it only works if i reinstall it |
| 16:56.09 | sam-lap | any ideas what is happenning ? |
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| 16:58.40 | sparadokos | babilen: if I may ask about line 4 and 5 you have wheezy/updates instead of wheezy-updates. This is the first time I have seen that. |
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| 17:01.14 | pikaro | is it ok to install a Squeeze packet in Sid? I need libssl0.9.8 and 1.0.0 doesn't satisfy that. (they seem to be incompatible.) |
| 17:01.48 | jelly | pikaro: it's usually quite safe. |
| 17:02.01 | pikaro | ok thanks :) I'll try it then. |
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| 17:02.25 | jelly | those two in particular have different sonames and different filenames, thus should not clash |
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| 17:07.45 | acu | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:09.04 | abrotman | not exactly straight then ... |
| 17:09.06 | pikaro | nice, jelly, this seems to work perfectly :) thanks! |
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| 17:13.00 | acu | abrotman. yes, not that straight - in otherwords could I have the host without a public address ? |
| 17:13.28 | sparadokos | paste.debian.net/245170 hope last question about source.list would this be correct for the proposed updates of wheezy? Even though there are none at the moment. |
| 17:13.41 | sam-lap | anyone can help me ? |
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| 17:15.00 | jeffrin | sam-lap : what is it ? |
| 17:15.12 | sam-lap | i've a vps and after a while ssh stops responding |
| 17:15.24 | sam-lap | and it only works if i reinstall it or restart the vps |
| 17:16.11 | petn-randall | sam-lap: What kind of VPS do you use? As in Amazon VPC? |
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| 17:17.23 | sam-lap | no |
| 17:17.29 | sam-lap | exsi |
| 17:17.47 | sam-lap | i have others and they are running fine |
| 17:17.56 | digdilem | others on the same host? |
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| 17:19.06 | wolf29 | why would a machine that I am currently shelled into come up with [SSH] ERROR: connect localhost port 6000: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it. when I su - other_user from root |
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| 17:19.44 | sam-lap | yes |
| 17:20.32 | digdilem | sam-lap, then it's not the host powersaving, I guess. THen i don't know, unless there is something odd about that setup such as some software shutting down, or something crashing |
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| 17:20.53 | digdilem | if your host has remote console, use that to get in and check logs? |
| 17:21.08 | sam-lap | nothing on logs |
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| 17:21.15 | digdilem | is sshd still running? |
| 17:21.16 | sam-lap | thats strange |
| 17:21.19 | sam-lap | yes |
| 17:21.33 | digdilem | can it ping out? |
| 17:21.39 | sam-lap | yes |
| 17:21.43 | jeffrin | wolf29 : you tried to switched to root ? |
| 17:21.53 | jeffrin | switch to |
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| 17:22.20 | wolf29 | sudo -i takes me to root, from there I usually move from user to user by su - user |
| 17:22.26 | digdilem | sam-lap then network is still up. (assuming it can ping in too). Sorry, I don't know why sshd would stop responding if it's still running, no bad logs etc. restarting sshd fix it? |
| 17:22.46 | sam-lap | i can ping in too |
| 17:22.52 | sam-lap | restart doesnt fix |
| 17:23.05 | sam-lap | just rebooting or reinstalling sshd |
| 17:23.23 | digdilem | only thing I can think of is something at the network layer of your host or vm software is blocking it for some reason, but I wouldn' tknow what |
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| 17:25.20 | digdilem | or maybe something else is fighting for port 22 |
| 17:25.26 | digdilem | grasping at straws tho |
| 17:26.08 | digdilem | sam-lap, might be worth adding a few extra ports to sshd's config to see if you can get in on another one when 22 fails |
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| 17:26.29 | sam-lap | will check that |
| 17:27.43 | wolf29 | jeffrin: I think I found the error - in /etc/hosts the IP of this hostname is a digit off from the IP for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 17:29.32 | jeffrin | wolf29 : try correcting with that . |
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| 17:30.54 | bghood | http://sredets.bg/admin/ - Free Admin access |
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| 17:32.20 | wolf29 | thanks jeffrin :-) |
| 17:32.31 | jeffrin | wolf29 : :) |
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| 17:39.46 | wolf29 | ended the session and tried again. Now "su - other_user" returns "-su: PREFIX: No such file or directory" |
| 17:39.57 | Malsasa | Hello, I wanna create a process and 10 child from it. What is the command/system call? |
| 17:40.00 | wolf29 | and the SSH error, too. |
| 17:41.06 | wolf29 | jeffrin: it still lets me switch to the other_user, however |
| 17:41.09 | petn-randall | Malsasa: I guess you'll have more luck asking in the IRC channel of your programming language. |
| 17:41.33 | Malsasa | petn-randall: wow, thanks. I an new in this field so i need some suggestion :) |
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| 17:42.53 | petn-randall | Malsasa: No problem. The answer will probably not be Debian-specific, and quite related to what ever you're programming with, that's why I suggested it. |
| 17:43.03 | petn-randall | Malsasa: What language are you programming in, btw? |
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| 17:43.52 | jeffrin | wolf29 : may be try doing su other_user and not su - otheruser |
| 17:44.54 | Malsasa | petn-randall: C |
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| 17:45.41 | rabbieth | Malsasa: for (n = 0; n++; n < 10) fork() - something like that |
| 17:46.02 | rabbieth | just do some checks to make sure you won't turn it into a fork bomb ;) |
| 17:46.18 | wolf29 | jeffrin: same effect - just didn't put me in other_user's home directory |
| 17:46.29 | wolf29 | it is weird. |
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| 17:47.39 | wolf29 | I am going to reboot and maybe clear out the caches - if it is holding the erroneous IP somewhere. |
| 17:48.22 | wolf29 | I know debian talks to itself through the network interface. |
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| 17:50.28 | TheLordX | can i customize the Debian Live CD to boot for example as "Debbix" username , cuztomized default keyboard language etc ? |
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| 17:51.37 | Malsasa | rabbieth: thanks, you always help me. I will try |
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| 18:00.31 | babilen | sparadokos: I wouldn't necessarily recommend to use proposed updates (you might, but the sources.list I've given you should work just fine) -- wheezy/updates is for security updates (it is on security.debian.org) and wheezy-updates is what was volatile in the past. Read <stable-updates> and <volatile> (/msg dpkg stable-updates) for an explanation. |
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| 18:03.04 | Agiofws | hello |
| 18:03.07 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:03.33 | Agiofws | in short what do i have to look up in my logs to see what locked up my machine previously ? |
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| 18:04.44 | zykotick9 | Agiofws: not to discourage you, but i had gnome3 installed yesterday. i had issues with lockups that don't seem to appear using non-gnome3 wm. i blame gnome3 (but could be wrong!). |
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| 18:06.44 | Agiofws | agiofws@ixus:/var/log$ more messages |
| 18:06.44 | Agiofws | messages messages.1 messages.2.gz messages.3.gz messages.4.gz? |
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| 18:07.31 | Agiofws | -rw-r----- 1 root adm 922732 Mar 27 20:00 messages |
| 18:07.31 | Agiofws | -rw-r----- 1 root adm 2068845 Mar 25 20:08 messages.1 |
| 18:07.32 | Agiofws | ? |
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| 18:08.31 | markovh | Agiofws: syslog |
| 18:08.53 | markovh | it depends what locked it up. it may not be written to a file |
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| 18:09.20 | Agiofws | Mar 27 19:58:18 ixus kernel: [ 9.675603] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint |
| 18:09.20 | Agiofws | Mar 27 19:58:18 ixus kernel: [ 9.756311] [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 1885 MBytes. |
| 18:09.21 | Agiofws | ? |
| 18:09.30 | Agiofws | syslog ? |
| 18:09.37 | markovh | /var/log/syslog |
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| 18:10.18 | Agiofws | bash: cd: syslog: Not a directory |
| 18:10.31 | markovh | it's a file not a directory |
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| 18:14.21 | Agiofws | markovh, can you take a look at this ? |
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| 18:16.17 | rabbieth | tali /var/log/syslog |
| 18:16.20 | needle | check dmesg |
| 18:16.25 | needle | dmesg | tail Agiofws |
| 18:16.38 | needle | if it locks up, immidiately after it if you regain control |
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| 18:17.17 | Agiofws | needle, what do you mean ... |
| 18:17.28 | needle | Agiofws: dmesg | tail |
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| 18:17.41 | canolucas | hi. i have a mail server on one machine of internal ip 192.168.0.130. this machine has no access to the internet, just sees another machine that has (is on the same network. internal ip 192.168.0.131, external ip xxx). i'm trying to redirect all internet requests to xxx:110 to 192.168.0.130:110 in example. for this i'm using a set of iptables commands, which do not want to work. what am i doing wrong? here are the iptables rules: http://pastebin.com/ |
| 18:17.41 | canolucas | UeT3fwaA i'm really out of ideas. thank you very much in advance |
| 18:17.50 | needle | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:17.53 | canolucas | is it possible to redirect the traffic over those ports back and forth using iptables rules? |
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| 18:18.13 | Agiofws | needle, i usually get lock ups when i recover from a suspession ... so i can't access my laptop ... |
| 18:18.14 | eptalon | heyas |
| 18:18.23 | rabbieth | btw, when gnome crashes and all those fancy top and left menu bars disappear and window management is broken, what process should i restart on ubuntu? |
| 18:18.43 | needle | Agiofws: not even via ssh or similar |
| 18:18.48 | eptalon | is there a channel for specific help about prining a text file? |
| 18:19.00 | zykotick9 | rabbieth: if you use ubuntu, ask in #ubuntu. |
| 18:19.05 | Agiofws | needle, if it locks up you won't even be able to issue that command |
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| 18:19.53 | rabbieth | zykotick9: it's the only time i'm asking about ubuntu and i'm sure it's the same process on debian |
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| 18:20.29 | rabbieth | canolucas: link pls |
| 18:20.30 | zykotick9 | rabbieth: neither are we! ask your distro's support channel (that's not #debian, unless you run debian)! |
| 18:21.06 | canolucas | <rabbieth> http://pastebin.com/UeT3fwaA |
| 18:21.24 | anddam | I remember there was an env variable that afftected aptitude column sizes but I can't find in man page or in docset, any hint? |
| 18:21.45 | anddam | when I pipe aptitude search output with less I get very narrow columns |
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| 18:23.17 | rabbieth | canolucas: actually all looks correct. could you try to running tcpdump -ni eth0 tcp port 110 on 192.168.0.130? |
| 18:23.25 | rabbieth | it could give some clue |
| 18:23.35 | dawud | anddam: COLUMNS, probably |
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| 18:24.16 | canolucas | rabbieth, 131 has two network interfaces. eth0 is for the internal network. eth1 is configured to access internet |
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| 18:25.29 | rabbieth | canolucas: figured. i suggest running tcpdump on 130 to make sure that it received packets and gives correct answers and after run tcpdump on 131 on eth1 to make sure it NATs everything correctly |
| 18:25.54 | vidplace7 | #debian-next is closed? |
| 18:25.59 | canolucas | rabbieth, sure, 1 min |
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| 18:26.27 | zykotick9 | vidplace7: are you using OFTC? |
| 18:26.34 | vidplace7 | OFTC? |
| 18:26.51 | zykotick9 | !oftc |
| 18:26.51 | dpkg | OFTC is the Open and Free Technology Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC network: irc.oftc.net. You may be connected to OFTC's network. http://www.oftc.net/ See also <freenode>, <oftc move> and <fact sharing>. |
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| 18:29.05 | rabbieth | canolucas: oh, and maybe instead of --to you should try using --to-destination. not sure about that, but i just checked my rules and that's how it looks like in iptables |
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| 18:30.22 | russw | Is there a way to download a single file from a debian package? eg: I just want "/usr/share/applications/eclipse.desktop" from the eclipse package. |
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| 18:30.46 | anddam | dawud: that's what I remember, any hint about why I don't find it in the doc? |
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| 18:32.13 | canolucas | rabbieth, i get no traffic from tcpdump |
| 18:32.29 | anddam | ah fish automatically set COLUMNS as a readonly value |
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| 18:33.32 | rabbieth | hmm... probably dnat is not working. maybe it's really because of --to instead of --to-destination? |
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| 18:33.49 | dawud | anddam: apropos COLUMNS |
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| 18:34.14 | canolucas | rabbieth, will try that |
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| 18:34.58 | jelly-home | russw: not much in it anyway, http://paste.debian.net/245199/ |
| 18:35.04 | babilen | russw: Not necessarily -- You might be able to grab it from the VCS though. See http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-java/eclipse.git |
| 18:35.07 | rabbieth | ok :) |
| 18:35.52 | anddam | dawud: I get colrm(1) and a perl reference |
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| 18:36.00 | russw | jelly-home:, baba - thx... I know it isn't much, I just realized that i;d like to know a way to do it for future cases if it is possible. |
| 18:37.37 | dawud | anddam: columns(1) contains useful info, but it's in the autogen pkg |
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| 18:40.10 | subthalamus | problems with an old intersil prism 2.5 wireless nic prompted me to try wicd instead of regular network mangler |
| 18:40.32 | babilen | russw: I'm not aware of a general method for single files. You can download the package (with, for example, dget(1)) and then extract it with "dpkg -x /path/to/unpack-root", but I can't think of a general "get me file /foo/bar/baz from package quux" tool |
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| 18:40.39 | Agiofws | hey |
| 18:40.41 | subthalamus | but the wicd daemon just crashes continuously |
| 18:40.41 | subthalamus | regular network mangler acted like no nic existed at all |
| 18:40.41 | subthalamus | nic's firmware is updated to 1.8.2 though for wpa2 support and hostap_pci module is properly loading |
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| 18:41.50 | subthalamus | the defaultl network manager causes weird things to show in the ESSID fields of iwconfig as well ; wicd log doesn't exist assuming it is suppose to be under /var/log/wicd/something |
| 18:42.02 | Agiofws | can anyone like guide me through to what file i have to look up to see whats locking up my machine after trying to recover from a suspended machine ? i suspect it locks up right after trying to get into X or gdm3 ... |
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| 18:43.06 | russw | babilen: thx again. it would be useful because now I want the eclipse icon... although it is strangely not in the direct package (or I'm blind)!? http://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/eclipse-platform/filelist |
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| 18:46.20 | babilen | russw: Do you know the filename? |
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| 18:46.54 | petn-randall | subthalamus: What driver are you using? AFAIR the driver for prism2.5 isn't even in-tree |
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| 18:47.14 | subthalamus | petn-randall: hostap_pci |
| 18:47.23 | babilen | russw: It seems to be in eclipse-platform-data |
| 18:47.26 | russw | babilen: the .desktop that jelly-home listed just said "eclipse". I don't see any xpm, png, or anything in the package, though. Digging around elsewhere online now. Seems silly. |
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| 18:47.50 | jelly-home | KNEW russw didn't really want the .desktop |
| 18:48.03 | subthalamus | petn-randall: per http://wiki.debian.org/hostap#hostap_pci |
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| 18:48.11 | babilen | dpkg: tell russw -about apt-file |
| 18:48.30 | subthalamus | PCI: 1260:3873 Intersil Corporation ISL3874 [Prism 2.5]/ISL3872 [Prism 3] < that is my little bastard :( |
| 18:48.46 | russw | jelly: :) well... that was just an example. I *did* say what i wanted was a way to get a single file from an online deb. :) |
| 18:48.49 | babilen | judd pciid 1260:3873 |
| 18:48.51 | judd | [1260:3873] is 'ISL3874 [Prism 2.5]/ISL3872 [Prism 3]' from 'Intersil Corporation' with kernel modules 'orinoco_pci', 'hostap_pci' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1260:3873 http://wiki.debian.org/orinoco http://wiki.debian.org/hostap |
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| 18:49.48 | subthalamus | judd: thanks but I already tried the orinoco driver and no nic shows up at all |
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| 18:50.09 | russw | babilen: thx for that... installed apt-file. |
| 18:50.12 | jelly-home | russw: like eclipse-platform-data: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/256x256/apps/eclipse.png maybe? |
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| 18:50.39 | subthalamus | judd: oh, you're just saying to report it? |
| 18:50.57 | russw | jelly: yep -- that looks good. I hadn't known about eclipse-platform-data |
| 18:51.03 | jelly-home | subthalamus: judd's just a bot. |
| 18:51.14 | subthalamus | jelly-home: ffs lol |
| 18:51.28 | subthalamus | first dpkg and now judd |
| 18:51.42 | subthalamus | fool me every time |
| 18:51.47 | jelly-home | babilen is a bot as well!!! |
| 18:51.52 | russw | subthalamus: it's still polite to be nice to bots :) |
| 18:51.55 | GNU\colossus | I'm a bot, too. |
| 18:52.03 | jelly-home | ?DOES NOT COMPUTE |
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| 18:52.22 | subthalamus | anyway, as I said, the driver is not the issue I don t think |
| 18:52.39 | subthalamus | the network manglers are doing something wrong |
| 18:52.40 | jelly-home | russw: just lucky I had to install eclipse earlier today |
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| 18:53.03 | subthalamus | and/or likely the human is doing something wrong |
| 18:53.25 | russw | jelly-home: you kept it at the ancient one in the repo? |
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| 18:55.07 | apm1 | i wish apt was sweet enough to let me dist-upgrade from squeeze to wheezy without borking :( |
| 18:55.48 | apm1 | it is sweet enough most of the times to let me point a dist-upgrade to sid |
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| 18:58.47 | jelly-home | russw: I've no idea how ancient the one in wheezy is. |
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| 18:58.59 | jelly-home | ,v eclipse |
| 18:59.01 | judd | Package: eclipse on i386 -- squeeze: 3.5.2-6squeeze2; sid: 3.8.0~rc4-1; wheezy: 3.8.0~rc4-1; experimental: 3.8.1-1 |
| 18:59.01 | tharkun | Does tcpdump output is compatible with wireshark analyzing capabilities? |
| 18:59.36 | rabbieth | yeah |
| 18:59.57 | russw | jelly-home: 4.2 has been out since June 2012 |
| 19:00.06 | rabbieth | use -w to save everything to a pcap file and read after that in wireshark |
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| 19:00.09 | jelly-home | tharkun: its -w .pcap output? Yeah. |
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| 19:00.56 | subthalamus | tharkun: tcpdump -ni eth0 -s0 -w /var/tmp/capture.pcap |
| 19:00.59 | rabbieth | tharkun: and you probably also will want to use -s 0 or -s 65535 with tcpdump |
| 19:01.16 | jelly-home | russw: I could have remained blissfully unaware |
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| 19:01.39 | rabbieth | heh xD one question and now it's clear who works with tcpdump and networks on this channel xD |
| 19:01.50 | russw | jelly-home: <waves hand>... there's no new version here |
| 19:02.14 | tharkun | Thank men, I'm kind of rusty using tcpdump since wireshark has been around ;P |
| 19:02.33 | rabbieth | tharkun: tcpdump also have lots of options, like setting a maximum size of pcap file, maximum number of packets to catch and so on :) |
| 19:03.01 | rabbieth | tharkun: you also could try tshark, the curses version of wireshark |
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| 19:03.30 | tharkun | rabbieth: Reading the man page of tcpdump :) tshark will be next ;P |
| 19:03.42 | needle | tcpdump can capture a pcap file no need for tshark |
| 19:03.52 | needle | pcap is readable in wireshark |
| 19:03.57 | rabbieth | loves tcpdump, netwox and fun in networks :P |
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| 19:04.41 | needle | rabbieth: nmap 127.243.231.212 |
| 19:05.07 | rabbieth | needle: i agree, but if he wants to have some colored interface in a terminal right on server without transfering pcap file to local machine tshark is his choice :P |
| 19:05.57 | rabbieth | needle: first flowers and candies, and only after nmap :P |
| 19:06.07 | rabbieth | i don't do nmap on the first date! xD |
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| 19:06.29 | KsM | You sure seem to be full of emotion |
| 19:06.43 | tharkun | Conectivity is fine and realy nmap can't give me more info than netstat -pantu and a clever use of telnet. But cups is failing between subnetworks and I want to discard connection problems |
| 19:07.16 | tharkun | Any Ideas on What to look for are welcomed :) |
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| 19:07.43 | needle | tharkun: check your ip path with lft |
| 19:08.00 | needle | if it fails between subnetworks |
| 19:08.07 | needle | ip subnetwork i mean |
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| 19:09.14 | needle | http://pwhois.org/lft/index.who |
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| 19:09.30 | tharkun | Well I can ssh from one subnetwork to the other among both servers on both ways so I really am discarding corner cases now |
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| 19:13.33 | needle | run cups in debug and check if the ip packets you are sending, form source network arrive at the CUPS daemon |
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| 19:14.04 | needle | then you can at least minimize the corner cases |
| 19:14.25 | needle | and then you know if it is in network, or it is the daemon that fails |
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| 19:18.05 | Beast1 | hi all |
| 19:18.12 | Beast1 | Hi all |
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| 19:30.01 | sam-lap | reinstalled my vps |
| 19:30.19 | sam-lap | and sshd stops woking after a while |
| 19:30.34 | sam-lap | if i reboot the vps it starts working again |
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| 19:32.03 | unborn | sshd? hybrid disks have no problem usually |
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| 19:32.50 | sam-lap | unborn yes sshd |
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| 19:32.56 | sam-lap | not sdd |
| 19:33.07 | sam-lap | i can ping in/out |
| 19:33.25 | sam-lap | service ssh status |
| 19:33.29 | sam-lap | sshd is running. |
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| 19:33.48 | sam-lap | iptables are disable |
| 19:33.51 | sparadokos | wow... after upgrading to wheezy.. It boots to a command prompt and I have to type startx but instead of XFCE running, Gnome just popped up. |
| 19:34.07 | sam-lap | but i cant login through ssh |
| 19:34.11 | sam-lap | any ideas ? |
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| 19:35.42 | unborn | sam-lap, perhaps ports are closed or if you running webmin try to reinstall openssh |
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| 19:38.07 | asterismo | hi guys |
| 19:38.37 | sam-lap | hmm |
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| 19:38.46 | asterismo | what architecture should i install on a Intel Atom N450 netbook? i386 or amd64? |
| 19:39.11 | sam-lap | shouldnt iptables be a service ? |
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| 19:39.35 | asterismo | and second question |
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| 19:39.54 | asterismo | what kernel fully supports AMD FX-8120 processor? |
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| 19:41.00 | unborn | sam-lap, perhaps -d to enable debug mode and then read verbose |
| 19:41.14 | sam-lap | i reinstall it |
| 19:41.27 | sam-lap | service iptables stop |
| 19:41.27 | sam-lap | iptables: unrecognized service |
| 19:41.55 | petn-randall | I'm a bot, and my wife is, too! (a little late, sorry :) |
| 19:41.58 | unborn | perhaps have look if you have /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 19:42.20 | unborn | sometimes service refuse to start if there is no sshd_config |
| 19:43.04 | sam-lap | sshd_config |
| 19:43.21 | sam-lap | shouldnt be created when i do apt-get install openssh-server ? |
| 19:44.08 | unborn | sam-lap, that is good question.. have look there to just make sure that config file is in place |
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| 19:44.59 | petn-randall | asterismo: I think you should know best what CPU arch it is. If it's a x86 CPU and 64 bit, you should use amd64. |
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| 19:45.08 | sam-lap | unborn file is in there |
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| 19:46.02 | petn-randall | asterismo: Atom N450 is 64 bit, same goes for AMD FX-8120. |
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| 19:47.36 | unborn | sam-lap, that is strange heh I would reinstall it |
| 19:47.46 | sam-lap | again ? |
| 19:47.53 | sam-lap | i just reinstalled it |
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| 19:49.14 | asterismo | amd64 for the Atom then |
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| 19:49.21 | babilen | sam-lap: iptables is (and shouldn't) be a service -- see http://wiki.debian.org/iptables for sensible suggestions on how to tie iptables into the interfaces system |
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| 19:50.07 | asterismo | but regarding FX-8120 i read that microcode specific things are supported since 3.0 or 3.0... so, i was asking, maybe someone of you have the same processor |
| 19:50.54 | unborn | sam-lap, and its still not working? |
| 19:51.05 | sam-lap | unborn nope |
| 19:52.33 | petn-randall | asterismo: What does that have to do with the architecture? |
| 19:52.42 | unborn | sam-lap, can you ping your server? i mean by hostname |
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| 19:53.02 | petn-randall | sam-lap: which VPC are you using, btw? |
| 19:53.15 | sam-lap | unborn yes |
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| 19:53.30 | sparadokos | is there a way to request something being added to the dist upgrade to wheezy that say's gdm is removed in wheezy from squeeze and another login screen is needed? I installed lightdm and all is good now |
| 19:53.36 | asterismo | petn-randall, fx-8120 does have kind an additional instruction set or something like that |
| 19:53.41 | sparadokos | dist upgrade notes* |
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| 19:54.00 | unborn | sam-lap, well if deamon is running it could be dns or firewall issue |
| 19:54.09 | sam-lap | petn-randall exsi 5.0 |
| 19:54.12 | unborn | that is only logic for me |
| 19:54.46 | petn-randall | asterismo: That doesn't make it incompatible with amd64 .... |
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| 19:56.18 | petn-randall | asterismo: nearly every CPU generation has a new instruction set. They're mostly only interesting for very few specific applications. |
| 19:56.31 | sam-lap | hmm |
| 19:56.39 | sam-lap | i tested iptables on my laptop |
| 19:56.44 | asterismo | petn-randall, my initial question was about the Atom processor... that i wanted to know if i386 or amd64 were better than the other |
| 19:56.52 | sam-lap | and i dont have them as a service too |
| 19:56.58 | petn-randall | asterismo: I already answered that. |
| 19:56.59 | sam-lap | running ubuntu there |
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| 19:57.10 | unborn | asterismo, atoms are 64bits well those Ive seen in my life |
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| 19:57.21 | sam-lap | maybe just in centos iptables are an service ? |
| 19:57.28 | asterismo | petn-randall, but with the fx-8120 i wanted to know in wich kernel version, that cpu was fully supported, but i know i must install amd64 for that cpu |
| 19:57.43 | unborn | sam-lap, are you running centos? |
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| 19:57.57 | petn-randall | asterismo: The CPU is fully supported in any amd64 compatible kernel. |
| 19:57.59 | sam-lap | i've on the that is running centos |
| 19:58.06 | sam-lap | my problem is with a debian box |
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| 19:58.42 | sam-lap | never had a problem like this |
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| 19:59.09 | petn-randall | asterismo: I don't know where you have this info from. But if it's about microcode, that's shipped separately in the package amd64-microcode. |
| 19:59.14 | unborn | sam-lap, please have look on your logs /var/log/auth.log |
| 19:59.36 | unborn | sam-lap, look for sshd |
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| 20:00.07 | sam-lap | unborn want the output ? |
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| 20:00.13 | unborn | I think you have problem with authentication system somewhere |
| 20:00.27 | asterismo | i think i read in tomshardware, when they were benchmarking amd fx 8000 series vs intel i5 and i7s |
| 20:00.42 | unborn | sam-lap, not need it.. just have look for sshd |
| 20:00.45 | asterismo | they said that in windows 7 the kernel was not fully supported |
| 20:00.50 | asterismo | but in windows 8 it was |
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| 20:01.15 | asterismo | and in linux the instructions were fully suported sinde kernel 3.0 or 3.2 don't remember |
| 20:01.28 | sam-lap | unborn |
| 20:01.30 | sam-lap | Mar 27 18:36:39 x sshd[998]: Received signal 15; terminating. |
| 20:01.58 | asterismo | sorry, they said that in windows 7 the CPU (not kernel) was not fully supported |
| 20:03.10 | petn-randall | asterismo: I *highly* doubt that it said 'supported'. It's x86 architecture. |
| 20:03.11 | unborn | sam-lap, sudo apt-get purge ssh-server |
| 20:03.12 | unborn | sudo apt-get install ssh-server fail2ban |
| 20:03.36 | unborn | that should work for you |
| 20:03.44 | sam-lap | hmm |
| 20:03.45 | sam-lap | Virtual packages like 'ssh-server' can't be removed |
| 20:04.21 | unborn | heh |
| 20:04.58 | unborn | sam-lap, try to do it from your hosting console |
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| 20:05.09 | unborn | control panel or how they call it |
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| 20:05.27 | sam-lap | same |
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| 20:06.32 | unborn | sam-lap, try to log in to your server on port 2222 |
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| 20:07.02 | sam-lap | ssh ? |
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| 20:07.15 | unborn | ya |
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| 20:07.31 | sam-lap | connection refused |
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| 20:08.01 | unborn | sam-lap, try sudo egrep -i sshd /var/log/*log|more |
| 20:08.13 | bezaban | are TLS and SASL considered as secure for SMTP authentication to exim? Is there something I can use that is an improvement |
| 20:08.23 | unborn | if the ssh is running then you will be able to see what port is listening |
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| 20:08.55 | sam-lap | is listenning to port 22 |
| 20:09.06 | _val_ | sam-lap: lsof -i :22 |
| 20:09.12 | needle | sam-lap: which ip interface |
| 20:09.32 | needle | netstat -tulpen | grep :22 |
| 20:09.36 | sam-lap | Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 22. |
| 20:09.43 | sam-lap | Server listening on :: port 22. |
| 20:09.43 | _val_ | but anyways, remove ssh from a *nix/*bsd system is like taking wings away from a birdy. |
| 20:09.51 | needle | ah so listening on all ip interfaces, all right |
| 20:10.02 | unborn | logically it should be firewall |
| 20:10.23 | unborn | heh I had issue like this one but in my case it was my firewall |
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| 20:10.36 | sam-lap | yeah but why the hell iptables are not a service ? |
| 20:10.42 | sam-lap | any ideas ? |
| 20:10.48 | needle | either a firewall, or a ip access list, or host.allow/deny |
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| 20:10.59 | unborn | needle, very true |
| 20:11.04 | sam-lap | its a fresh install |
| 20:11.26 | needle | can you ssh localhost sam-lap? |
| 20:11.30 | needle | it should work |
| 20:11.35 | sam-lap | i've reinstalled iptables and ssh start responding again |
| 20:11.51 | sam-lap | yes i can needle |
| 20:12.15 | needle | ok, so 127.0.0.1 is not blocked "somehwere" so you can be sure at least ssh works as it should |
| 20:12.22 | needle | ssh daemon |
| 20:12.36 | sam-lap | service ssh status |
| 20:12.37 | sam-lap | sshd is running. |
| 20:12.43 | sam-lap | sshd is running fine now |
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| 20:12.56 | unborn | sam-lap, so it was firewall finally |
| 20:13.08 | sam-lap | i reinstalled the iptables and it worked |
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| 20:13.38 | sam-lap | and iptables still arent a service |
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| 20:13.50 | stew | sam-lap: no, iptables isn't a service, it doens't make sense as a service |
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| 20:14.16 | stew | sam-lap: is the lo interface up? |
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| 20:14.29 | sam-lap | stew i've a centos box with the iptables as a service |
| 20:14.41 | unborn | sam-lap, sudo chkconfig iptables on |
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| 20:14.45 | stew | sam-lap: ok |
| 20:14.52 | unborn | sam-lap, sudo service iptables start |
| 20:14.56 | stew | no |
| 20:15.02 | stew | unborn: on what operating system? |
| 20:15.19 | sam-lap | stew yes its up |
| 20:15.21 | unborn | debian 6 if I remeber commands correctly heh |
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| 20:15.38 | stew | unborn: you don't, iptables rightly doesn't have an init script |
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| 20:16.19 | stew | (also chkconfig is not a standard thing to use, update-rc.d is the default tool) |
| 20:16.27 | unborn | stew, just checked on my server and you are correct. my apology |
| 20:16.51 | sam-lap | lets see if the ssh connections doesnt freeze again |
| 20:16.57 | stew | if you want to load firewalling rules, running then from a pre-up line in /etc/network/interfaces is the best place |
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| 20:21.25 | gnat_x | hi folks. i just installed wheezy on an eeepc, but there's something up with the video, i can't set a higher res than 800x600. i have the xserver-xorg-video-all package installed, but it still isn't working. any suggestions on what to try next? |
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| 20:21.41 | unborn | stew, you where correct only bsd oses family have iptablets as service |
| 20:22.29 | unborn | sam-lap, it should not freeze any more.. perhaps you want to reboot machine? |
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| 20:22.56 | sam-lap | already rebooted |
| 20:23.06 | unborn | sam-lap, I guess it works |
| 20:23.14 | sam-lap | lets wait an see |
| 20:23.31 | sam-lap | when that happen was 15/20min after i logged in |
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| 20:23.59 | bezaban | gnat_x: you might need to get propietary drivers, if there is support |
| 20:24.16 | bezaban | but I think eee made a point out of linux |
| 20:24.33 | bezaban | my old eee s101 was sold with it, but not sure about the other models |
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| 20:25.05 | gnat_x | bezaban: would the proprietary bits be in non-free? |
| 20:25.06 | unborn | sam-lap, that depends from your timeout settings |
| 20:25.16 | sam-lap | right |
| 20:25.18 | bezaban | gnat_x: no, needs to be downloaded from the vendor site |
| 20:25.26 | sam-lap | but not responding dont |
| 20:25.38 | sam-lap | im using the default sshd_config settings |
| 20:25.38 | bezaban | gnat_x: licensing terms keep them out of the repo I think |
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| 20:25.43 | sam-lap | brb |
| 20:25.56 | unborn | sam-lap, http://www.adercon.com/ac/node/39 bit old but it should tell you what it does |
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| 20:26.18 | bezaban | gnat_x: lspci and find the gpu model, then go to vendor's site |
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| 20:27.02 | sparadokos | Where should I start looking to figure out why my laptop is hanging during boot? |
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| 20:27.16 | bezaban | gnat_x: the installers are pretty good for both nvidia and ati now, but I think they both need to be run in console without X running. |
| 20:28.04 | gnat_x | bezaban: cool, thanks! and running from the console is not a problem. this is a pretty stripped down install at the moment; i don't even have a dm installed. |
| 20:28.33 | bezaban | gnat_x: happy to help :) |
| 20:28.39 | bezaban | hope it helps. |
| 20:29.12 | bezaban | gnat_x: what eee is it? |
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| 20:30.47 | goose | I've got an old apple g5 box I'm running squeeze/ppc on, and using as a home server for backups and various things. anytime I do anything I/O intensive (scp 1+ GB of data, and similar jobs) the box locks up and stops responding to ping, and all services on the box seem to stop. only way to fix it is to hard reboot it. is there a system log file anywhere that might indicate why it does this? |
| 20:30.54 | gnat_x | bezaban: well, they didn't actually put a model number but its something like an Eee PC 1025 Flare Series |
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| 20:31.52 | kwuw | I keep getting an error while using the "passwd" command. "Error: user doens't exist" |
| 20:31.58 | kwuw | What do I do?! |
| 20:32.10 | bezaban | gnat_x: ah, right. So it should do 1024x600 |
| 20:32.18 | gnat_x | kwuw: you're trying to change your own pass? |
| 20:32.19 | unborn | kwuw, passw user |
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| 20:32.29 | kwuw | no |
| 20:32.37 | kwuw | I am doing it on my account |
| 20:32.40 | unborn | kwuw, then password |
| 20:32.42 | kwuw | I just use "passwd" |
| 20:32.50 | gnat_x | bezaban: it *should* do better than that. |
| 20:33.05 | gnat_x | kwuw: and you're using a standard shell? |
| 20:33.08 | kwuw | yes |
| 20:33.12 | stew | kwuw: does "getent passwd username" return a result? |
| 20:33.14 | kwuw | Idk what's going on |
| 20:33.15 | unborn | kwuw, when you do it in root you have to type your username there |
| 20:33.25 | bezaban | gnat_x: hp specs on the 1025C has that as the screen |
| 20:33.28 | kwuw | unborn: nope, I'm not using root |
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| 20:33.39 | _val_ | kwuw: your account does not exist then. grep "$USER" /etc/passwd |
| 20:33.40 | kwuw | stew: yes, my username |
| 20:33.44 | bezaban | 10.1" LED Backlight WSVGA (1024x600) Screen |
| 20:33.54 | kwuw | _val_: yes it does, I'm logged into i |
| 20:33.55 | kwuw | t |
| 20:34.06 | _val_ | kwuw: what does that command return? |
| 20:34.21 | stew | _val_: realize that getent is always better here |
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| 20:34.33 | stew | kwuw: sounds like a pam problem. have you been mucking around in /etc/pam.d? |
| 20:34.46 | kwuw | stew: yes :( |
| 20:35.16 | kwuw | _val_: users and their groups |
| 20:35.22 | kwuw | stew: How do I fix it? |
| 20:36.04 | stew | undo what you did in /etc/pam.d? what did you do? did you change common-password? |
| 20:36.14 | kwuw | I changed common-password |
| 20:36.18 | kwuw | I can't undo it |
| 20:36.26 | stew | this isn't fixable then |
| 20:36.27 | kwuw | I done it like 4 days ago |
| 20:36.39 | stew | why can't you undo it? |
| 20:36.45 | kwuw | Idk how |
| 20:37.04 | stew | you don't know what you changed? |
| 20:37.11 | kwuw | no |
| 20:37.14 | kwuw | I forgot |
| 20:37.21 | stew | can't you just look at your backups? |
| 20:37.25 | kwuw | I was bored so editied a load of crap |
| 20:37.29 | kwuw | I have no backups |
| 20:37.39 | unborn | lolz |
| 20:38.20 | stew | do you want to show us your common-password? |
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| 20:39.33 | _val_ | kwuw: best is to live boot and mount the fs and copy the original files back. |
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| 20:39.56 | kwuw | "passwordblahahhaapam_loloweoijwbullok obscure sha1" |
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| 20:40.06 | ch1lly | hi all |
| 20:40.28 | ch1lly | I am using Mint, but I cannot get help there, so I thought I may ask, and maybe someone knows or can help me |
| 20:40.42 | stew | ch1lly: wrong channel |
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| 20:40.48 | ch1lly | yes, I know |
| 20:40.55 | ch1lly | but what can I do ? :( |
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| 20:41.07 | stew | go to the right channel? or ##linux perhaps? |
| 20:41.08 | needle | use debian and ask here |
| 20:41.15 | kwuw | ch1lly: forums |
| 20:41.15 | zykotick9 | ch1lly: use a better distro, like debian |
| 20:41.24 | stew | kwuw: looks like there are originals in /usr/share/pam |
| 20:41.26 | unborn | ch1lly, I used lmde and mint.. what you need? they have own channels? |
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| 20:41.39 | unborn | zykotick9, 1+ |
| 20:41.47 | ch1lly | none on #mint could help me |
| 20:41.57 | ch1lly | #linuxmint-help that is |
| 20:42.10 | unborn | ch1lly, okay just shoot the question.. |
| 20:42.13 | kwuw | ch1lly: just ask anyway |
| 20:42.29 | stew | NO |
| 20:42.34 | stew | err, sorry caps |
| 20:42.39 | kwuw | why does it matter so much? |
| 20:42.46 | kwuw | Linux Mint is based on Debian |
| 20:42.48 | stew | if you guys want to help him, please join him in #linuxmint-help |
| 20:42.50 | kwuw | well, LMDE |
| 20:43.01 | kwuw | it is Debian related |
| 20:43.08 | unborn | ch1lly, just ask.. whant you need? |
| 20:43.09 | stew | no, it isn't |
| 20:43.12 | ch1lly | I am using the nvidia drivers, and I've configured xorg.conf to use twinview and pickup my extarnal monitor as the primary one. While that works, the nvidia driver itself is not always loaded on reboot. |
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| 20:43.20 | sam-lap | unborn it freezed again |
| 20:43.26 | nkuttler | !tell kwuw about based on debian |
| 20:43.28 | ch1lly | I do have a good and a bad /var/log/Xorg.log.0 |
| 20:43.44 | stew | ch1lly: wrong channel still |
| 20:43.45 | ch1lly | they try to load the same driver, but one does, the other fails to |
| 20:43.49 | unborn | sam-lap, well then your auto-log of is working |
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| 20:44.30 | kwuw | ch1lly: could just use Windows |
| 20:45.13 | unborn | ch1lly, maybe you add it to start up scripts |
| 20:45.26 | sam-lap | i can ssh to localhost |
| 20:45.32 | sam-lap | ssh is listen to 22 |
| 20:45.46 | stew | sam-lap: what can't you do? |
| 20:45.49 | stew | unborn: kwuw: ch1lly: please move the discussion to #linuxmint-help |
| 20:45.57 | sam-lap | ssh to the box |
| 20:46.07 | stew | what happens when you try? |
| 20:46.18 | sam-lap | i was able to do it |
| 20:46.19 | kwuw | BANG |
| 20:46.22 | kwuw | it explaods |
| 20:46.24 | sam-lap | but now for no reason i can |
| 20:46.26 | sam-lap | but now for no reason i cant |
| 20:46.29 | unborn | stew, okay chill out.. im not going to on mint channels.. as I am not using mint for same reason :) |
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| 20:46.42 | stew | sam-lap: why can't you? |
| 20:46.51 | sam-lap | dont know |
| 20:46.54 | sam-lap | ask to my server |
| 20:46.59 | sam-lap | its a fresh install |
| 20:46.59 | stew | sam-lap: do you get an error? |
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| 20:47.05 | sam-lap | timeout |
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| 20:47.55 | ch1lly | well, thanks anyway. and stew, sorry for interfering with your distro. bye |
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| 20:48.11 | stew | sam-lap: previously you were getting connection refused? |
| 20:48.16 | sparadokos | I'm stuck. when I /sbin/shutdown -hP now all is good but if I do /sbin/shutdown -r now it hangs when it comes back up.. Still in the beginning of the bios stuff at boot time. |
| 20:48.23 | sam-lap | stew no |
| 20:48.34 | wget | I wanted to have a confirmation here from Debian devs. I attended the talk at FOSDEM about systemd in Debian. The speakers said systemd is going to integrate the next version wheezy thus. Is Wheezy going to be released next month and will systemd be integrated in it? |
| 20:48.34 | sam-lap | that was when i ssh to port 2222 |
| 20:48.56 | stew | judd: versions systemd |
| 20:48.57 | judd | Package: systemd on i386 -- sid: 44-11; wheezy: 44-11 |
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| 20:49.10 | stew | wget: it will be included, it will not be the default |
| 20:49.42 | unborn | stew, basic issue he have is when he log in to ssh and there is inactivity for about 10-15minutes he gets disconnected and then possibly (what I understand) he cannot connect to it anymore |
| 20:49.46 | stew | sam-lap: its most likely a firewall/routing problem. I would run tcpdump on the server to see if you can verify that the SYN packet never arrives |
| 20:50.24 | wget | stew: Thanks for your prompt answer. And is wheezy going to be released on next month? |
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| 20:50.31 | lae | I'm trying to downgrade my wheezy kernel back to 3.2.35-2 but keep getting a package not found error - http://privatepaste.com/51aaadab44 none of these seem to be working |
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| 20:50.51 | _val_ | sam-lap: lsof -i :22 |
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| 20:51.11 | stew | wget: its not generally possible to predict a release date except perhaps when the release team and ftp team are saying "ok I can do it this weekend if you can" |
| 20:51.15 | _val_ | change log level into debug in your sshd_config. service ssh restart, try again. Use tcpdump etc.. |
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| 20:52.29 | stew | wget: though that is not a bad guess |
| 20:53.46 | zykotick9 | ChibaPet: while i prefer copyleft over permissive, BSDs are still "free" software... so i have no issues with it. it's the non-free where i have a problem. |
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| 20:54.27 | ompaul | zykotick9: wrong channel is wrong ;-) |
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| 20:56.08 | magyar | hi, I've got an interesting thing happening on my wheezy install after one of the last weeks updates. Both of my realtek cards have the same new hardware address |
| 20:56.18 | sam-lap | _val_ |
| 20:56.18 | sam-lap | SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-6+squeeze3 |
| 20:56.42 | sam-lap | i restart ssh with debug in loglevel |
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| 20:57.42 | _val_ | sam-lap: so check the logs. What does it say. |
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| 20:58.01 | ChibaPet | magyar: Is there something odd in your /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-persistent-net.rules maybe? I've had that bite me. |
| 20:58.03 | _val_ | Since you telnetted to it, means everything is OK. |
| 20:58.29 | ChibaPet | Um, copy and paste error, but you should figure out the file I mean. |
| 20:58.41 | sam-lap | yup |
| 20:58.47 | sam-lap | because i restarted the service |
| 20:58.59 | sam-lap | let's wait to see if it freezes again |
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| 20:59.31 | magyar | ChibaPet: I've cleared that file and reboot the system, but udev rebuilds it with same mac |
| 20:59.44 | _val_ | sam-lap: grep "ServerAliveInterval" /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
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| 21:00.07 | sam-lap | nothing |
| 21:00.12 | _val_ | sam-lap: grep "ServerAliveInterval" /etc/ssh/ssh_config |
| 21:00.15 | magyar | ChibaPet: I've also rolled back the kernel, as I thought it might be the kernel update |
| 21:00.18 | _val_ | sorry. THis is a server directive. |
| 21:00.37 | sam-lap | nothing too |
| 21:01.06 | ChibaPet | magyar: Hm, hopefully someone has an idea then - that's the only thing I've ever dealt with that seems likely to me. |
| 21:01.44 | magyar | ChibaPet: np, thanks |
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| 21:02.25 | anddam | !!/query dpkg |
| 21:02.31 | peterrooney | I can't figure out this one: using fglrx driver, ati2400HD, virtual consoles become invisible. I can still log on blindly via them, but nothing is visible. debian bug 580230 was the closest match I ccould find, but was closed in 2010. |
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| 21:02.43 | anddam | too much emphasis |
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| 21:04.08 | anddam | how do I rebuild virtualbox kernel modules with DKMS? |
| 21:05.58 | anddam | DKMS factoid doesn't explain how to actually trigger the build |
| 21:06.52 | asterismo | hi, i need help to install debian in a netbook |
| 21:07.09 | asterismo | it seems to be no app to create a boot usb stick... |
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| 21:07.43 | asterismo | i tried UNetbootin that claims to support debian stable/testing.... but installation fails in CD-rom detection |
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| 21:08.08 | asterismo | can anybody tell me how to load Debian in a usb thumb for installation in a netbook? |
| 21:08.19 | zykotick9 | asterismo: unetbootin is NOT supported by debian! if you use it, expect issues. |
| 21:08.19 | asterismo | please i need to install debian right away |
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| 21:09.04 | zykotick9 | asterismo: cat the iso to your usb key. "cat debianFOO.iso > /dev/sdX" without a partition number! |
| 21:09.09 | asterismo | zykotick9, yeah... i experienced it. but cannot find any debian page with a reasonable how-to instructions to do it |
| 21:09.15 | rabbieth | dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/usbdisk |
| 21:09.31 | asterismo | that did not worked either |
| 21:09.34 | zykotick9 | usb install |
| 21:09.47 | zykotick9 | !usb install |
| 21:09.48 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Ask me about <plop>. |
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| 21:12.06 | asterismo | zykotick9, i got bash: /dev/sdf: Permission denied |
| 21:12.12 | asterismo | on your command |
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| 21:12.24 | zykotick9 | asterismo: you need to be root |
| 21:12.36 | asterismo | i'm in a ubuntu box |
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| 21:12.43 | asterismo | i'm using sudo |
| 21:12.53 | zykotick9 | asterismo: "sudo -i" then try |
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| 21:14.19 | asterismo | it instantly give me the command prompt, i cannot be that fast |
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| 21:14.56 | zykotick9 | asterismo: after "sudo -i" you should ahve a # (or root) prompt... |
| 21:15.20 | asterismo | yes, but i hit the command and it gives me back the command prompt instantly |
| 21:15.39 | asterismo | i would expect to last a minute or two |
| 21:15.58 | zykotick9 | asterismo: what command are you issueing? |
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| 21:16.15 | asterismo | cat debian-testing-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso > /dev/sdf |
| 21:16.26 | asterismo | the thumb is in sdf |
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| 21:19.14 | asterismo | zykotick9, tried with dd, and it instantly gives the prompt as it is finished, it says 291 MB/s |
| 21:19.16 | fulcan | I have a little singleboard that is running out of memory when trying to clone it with dd to another drive (locks up). http://www.acmesystems.it/aria |
| 21:19.25 | asterismo | that got to be wrong |
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| 21:20.46 | asterismo | anyway, would i set BIOS to boot USB-CD or choose the kingston usb thumb? |
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| 21:25.15 | jhutchins_wk | asterismo: Did you validate the md5sum of the iso? |
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| 21:27.16 | asterismo | mmm, no |
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| 21:27.38 | asterismo | and since it is regenerated weekly, i dunno what md5sum is... i downloaded weeks ago |
| 21:27.42 | asterismo | or months |
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| 21:29.14 | asterismo | jhutchins_wk, i did the dd copy and it seems it worked, but when i mount the thumb i see only one folder... efi. is this accurate? |
| 21:29.50 | anddam | is this issue due to module/kernel versions combination https://gist.github.com/anddam/5258179 ? Xorg cannot find vboxvideo module so I was rebuilding virtualbox-guest-dkms |
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| 21:32.47 | Tekra | How do I make a usb stick which can install debian offline and add some local packages? I'm planning to use preseeding to speed up the install, since it'll be used as a recovery disk for a friend's computer. Any pointers are appreciated, all i've found are methods that put the iso onto the thumbdrive. Perhaps i need to look at jigdo? |
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| 21:35.17 | Tekra | I'd like to be able to put the USB stick in a machine, boot of it, answer a few questions (hostname, passwords, that stuff) and have the rest including LVM setup automated. I don't want him to have to fight with installing and making sure got the right packages and so on |
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| 21:41.29 | f8l | Tekra: Jigdo may not help you there. Maybe debian-cd or live-image will do the trick (I haven't checked that). |
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| 21:42.37 | f8l | dpkg: tell Tekra about custom cd |
| 21:42.49 | Tekra | Thanks. In preseed, how do i set the mirror to file:// style path? |
| 21:43.08 | anddam | ah, found it http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=703358 |
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| 21:44.26 | baudtack | is there no longer an oracle java package for debian? openjdk isn't working very well for me with the kgs app. I can't click in any text fields and have solved this in the past by using the oracle version but I don't see a package for it now... |
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| 21:45.06 | penguin1 | the debian base system still contain some crap. how can I prevent its installation? |
| 21:45.14 | f8l | baudtack: It's a non-free package. Are you sure you have non-free repositories in sources.list? |
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| 21:46.22 | baudtack | f8l: i was sure... lemme double check |
| 21:46.33 | f8l | ,version sun-java6-jre |
| 21:46.34 | judd | Package: sun-java6-jre on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 6.26-0squeeze1 |
| 21:47.07 | Tekra | f8l: Can i make a combined disk for amd64 and x86? |
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| 21:47.44 | baudtack | f8l: hrm. i do have it. but i'm running sid |
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| 21:47.54 | f8l | Tekra: I think so. IIRC the default installation netinst CD is a multiarch i386+amd64 one. |
| 21:48.16 | Tekra | Hm im on the netinst download page and see them seperate not both |
| 21:48.23 | baudtack | so maybe there isn't a sid package? |
| 21:48.31 | Tekra | amd64armelkfreebsd-i386kfreebsd-amd64i386ia64mipsmipselpowerpcsparc |
| 21:48.42 | Tekra | ooo that pasted poorly |
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| 21:49.00 | Tekra | amd64 armel kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64 i386 ia64 mips mipsel powerpc sparc |
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| 21:49.40 | f8l | baudtack: Try to include a stable or testing repo. |
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| 21:50.43 | f8l | Tekra: I meant the one which is linked to on debian.org |
| 21:50.53 | baudtack | hrm. i see it here though http://packages.debian.org/sid/sun-java6-jre |
| 21:50.55 | baudtack | how odd |
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| 21:51.44 | Tekra | f8l: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ ? |
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| 21:52.21 | f8l | Tekra: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.7/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.7-amd64-i386-netinst.iso |
| 21:52.32 | asterismo | please somebody explain to me why i should use Debian instead of Ubuntu from a technical point of view... |
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| 21:52.57 | Tekra | f8l: Very good, is there one like that for wheezy? |
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| 21:53.20 | f8l | baudtack: Maybe you haven't `apt-get update`d for too long? |
| 21:53.27 | Tekra | I'd like to keep him on testing, if possible because he uses some things that are pretty out of date over in stable |
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| 21:53.30 | KsM | !whydebian | asterismo |
| 21:53.49 | Tekra | f8l: we use the newer version of a program called motion, it is very good |
| 21:54.14 | asterismo | !whydebian |
| 21:54.15 | dpkg | Debian strives to maintain your freedom whilst also paying close attention to the technical aspects of making a great OS. Debian is stable, upgradable and well tested. See also http://www.debian.org/intro/free http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ (archived at http://wiki.debian.org/WhyDebian) http://www.aboutdebian.com/ . As an added bonus, you get to ask questions in #debian. |
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| 21:54.40 | asterismo | and what is your opinion |
| 21:54.41 | asterismo | ? |
| 21:55.04 | f8l | Tekra: I think there is one, but I read somewhere that something is wrong with testing CD images. |
| 21:55.11 | Tekra | Ah :( |
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| 21:55.56 | Tekra | just have to make my own repo for newer ffmpeg/motion/vlc. Thanks |
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| 21:56.39 | f8l | Tekra: I don't know if it was a major thing though. You can try it: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/wheezy_di_rc1/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-wheezy-DI-rc1-amd64-i386-netinst.iso |
| 21:56.45 | Tekra | Is debootstraping into a chroot a good way to get an apt-cache for aptmove? |
| 21:56.50 | Tekra | thanks |
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| 21:58.16 | f8l | wonders why multi-arch netinsts are not listed under netinsts… |
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| 21:59.00 | f8l | ,version motion |
| 21:59.01 | judd | Package: motion on i386 -- squeeze: 3.2.12-2; wheezy: 3.2.12-3.2; sid: 3.2.12-3.4 |
| 21:59.20 | f8l | Tekra: Do you need a newer version than that? |
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| 22:00.38 | Tekra | Version: 5:0.7.13-dmo2 |
| 22:00.43 | Tekra | Thats my ffmpeg |
| 22:01.02 | Tekra | The motion i build myself, i run a patched svn version |
| 22:01.14 | Tekra | git rather |
| 22:01.15 | ragedragon | hello, |
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| 22:02.26 | ragedragon | as you are talking about motion; do you know please if an API is available to use motion with C language? I intend to use a C function trigged when motion will see a webcam event |
| 22:03.12 | Tekra | ragedragon: No, there's the event exec mechanism, however. you could use sysv ipc or shm to actually send stuff to a daemon |
| 22:03.47 | ragedragon | ok thx Tekra, will have a look |
| 22:04.20 | Tekra | ragedragon: you can call any program from the on_* stuff |
| 22:04.29 | ragedragon | ok |
| 22:05.00 | Tekra | I'm not sure what happens if you block, so be careful there. |
| 22:05.21 | Tekra | I only use it for when a recording is done to send an email of the thumbnail to my phone |
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| 22:05.38 | Tekra | f8l: whats your ffmpeg version? |
| 22:05.44 | Tekra | ,version ffmpeg |
| 22:05.46 | judd | Package: ffmpeg on i386 -- squeeze-proposed-updates: 4:0.5.9-1; squeeze-security: 4:0.5.9-1; squeeze: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze-security: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze-backports: 4:0.8-2~bpo60+1; squeeze-multimedia: 5:0.7.15-dmo1; squeeze-backports: 6:0.8.3-1~bpo60+1; squeeze-backports: 6:0.8.5-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 6:0.8.5-1; sid: 6:0.8.6-1; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.5-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 8:1.0.6-dmo2 |
| 22:06.15 | Tekra | I have to have 0.8.4 or newer - I think 1.0.x wont work yet too |
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| 22:09.16 | TheWarden | which script file would I use to have run after a Debian binary package has been unpacked and installed (preinst, postinst, prerm and postrm)? |
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| 22:10.33 | Tekra | Can i make debootstrap save the packages for aptmove? |
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| 22:14.11 | TheWarden | I think its the postinst I want but not positive. |
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| 22:17.36 | f8l | asterismo: This sentence may be somewhat biased, but whenever I was invited to repair someone's Linux-based OS, it was Ubuntu. |
| 22:18.41 | f8l | Tekra: I have no ffmpeg. IIRC it changed name. |
| 22:19.43 | Tekra | f8l: avcodec i believe |
| 22:19.44 | zykotick9 | f8l: libav-tools for the replacement of ffmpeg |
| 22:19.56 | f8l | TheWarden: I also think it is postinst, bu I'm not a DD nor DM, so don't quote me on that. |
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| 22:20.12 | Tekra | libav maybe |
| 22:20.21 | TheWarden | f8l: Oh I will :-) |
| 22:20.23 | f8l | Tekra: zykotick9 is right. |
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| 22:25.44 | Tekra | f8l: simple-cdd seems good for what i need then use one of the ISO to usb stick methods. Thanks! |
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| 22:30.14 | goose | I've got an old apple g5 box I'm running squeeze/ppc on, and using as a home server for backups and various things. anytime I do anything I/O intensive (scp 1+ GB of data, and similar jobs) the box locks up and stops responding to ping, and all services on the box seem to stop. only way to fix it is to hard reboot it. is there a system log file anywhere that might indicate why it does this? |
| 22:30.20 | Tekra | I love debian. Can't wait to get rid of the last ubuntu box around here |
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| 22:32.14 | shicy | debian is fantastic |
| 22:32.28 | shicy | i use unstable and it's perfect |
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| 22:32.35 | coderanger | Anyone know if apt still even looks at the md5 and sha1 fields? Can I leave those out in a repo? |
| 22:32.42 | TheWarden | Is it true to change the periodic disk check (fsck) to occur after X amount of mounts of a given drive, can only be changed using tune2fs? The reason I ask is because I want my package to change this setting and I'm wondering if I could just include a conf file, this why it would prompt the user whether they want the change or not? |
| 22:33.01 | asterismo | does debian testing XFCE use GTK3 |
| 22:33.03 | asterismo | ??? |
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| 22:33.42 | f8l | goose: /var/log/syslog.log may be of your interest. |
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| 22:34.37 | f8l | goose: /var/log/kernel.log probably too. |
| 22:34.45 | zykotick9 | asterismo: running "apt-cache depends xfce4" i see a gtk2-engines-xfce, but perhaps something else pulls gtk3? |
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| 22:36.40 | prefixed | how can I begin to troubleshoot "out of memory" errors? |
| 22:36.42 | f8l | TheWarden: Yes, this setting is filesystem instance specific. You can't do it with a conf file. |
| 22:37.03 | TheWarden | f8l: okay, thanks. |
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| 22:37.35 | coderanger | Guessing the sha256 field is the only one used at this point and md5 and sha1 are just ancient cruft, but I'm not feeling like diving the apt code |
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| 22:39.12 | f8l | prefixed: dmesg will tell you which program was killed due to memory shortage. |
| 22:39.15 | TheWarden | How can I list all hard drives (physical, not including partitions)? I need to some how get a list and loop through each one doing tune2fs -c90 /dev/sda1 |
| 22:39.21 | rare | hi, ~/.config/mc/mc.ext and /usr/libexec/mc/ext.d/ are ok but always firefox tries to open files in mc, |
| 22:39.26 | TheWarden | it would replace sda1 with applicable device name. |
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| 22:39.57 | peterrooney | goose: you could try ionice -c 3 <freezingprogram>; also, there's #debainppc (a very low-traffic channel) |
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| 22:40.34 | peterrooney | I admit, at best it's a reduced-funcionality workaround |
| 22:40.37 | TheWarden | mm saying not including partitions, interestedly enough mine is only valid on sda1 which is the first primary partition of the that drive. I guess its device name partition 1. |
| 22:41.20 | f8l | TheWarden: I don't know what are you planning, but `fdisk -l` or `blkid` may help. |
| 22:41.51 | f8l | rare: Can you elaborate? |
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| 22:42.03 | prefixed | f8l Out of memory: Kill process 17029 (mysqld) score 42 or sacrifice child |
| 22:42.03 | zykotick9 | f8l: in a gpt-world, using "parted -l" in place of "fdisk -l" is probably better |
| 22:42.08 | prefixed | so, what does this mean? |
| 22:42.27 | MCPlayer | For all the Minecraft players: Why u no earn money while playing? You'll even get free coins in the beginning. http://goo.gl/8QExy |
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| 22:43.09 | prefixed | f8l also Out of memory: Kill process 1510 (apache2) score 44 or sacrifice child |
| 22:43.21 | f8l | zykotick9: I wasn't aware of that one. Thanks. |
| 22:43.50 | f8l | prefixed: It means that your database daemon wanted more memory than it could allocate. |
| 22:43.55 | TheWarden | f8l: well my plan was to have in my postinst file to create a for loop that loops through each hard drive changing the periodic disk check (fsck) maximum mount count. Just not sure how to avoid not doing this on say USB drives, CD/DVD/Bluray drives.... |
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| 22:44.20 | prefixed | f8l ok. how can I tell how much memory it wanted? |
| 22:44.42 | zykotick9 | TheWarden: why on earth would you do that? whaterver your package is, seems dangerous |
| 22:45.05 | f8l | prefixed: Read couple of lines earlier. dmesg should show pretty detailed data about memory usage at the time. |
| 22:45.20 | rare | f8l, Using mc if I pressed Enter on a selected .pdf then xpdf would be used to view it, or on a .mp3 then xmms would play it. But on new version now when I press Enter for such selected file types, always firefox tries to open them. |
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| 22:45.38 | TheWarden | zykotick9: its used internally to setup kiosk systems, this package wouldn't be used outside of this at this stage but I am thinking at some point what if someone chooses to use there own hardware and applies this package. |
| 22:45.41 | prefixed | f8l does it make sense for mysql to need 300+mb of memory at any one time? |
| 22:45.55 | rare | ~/.config/mc/mc.ext and /usr/libexec/mc/ext.d/ are ok |
| 22:45.55 | apt | rare: that's too long |
| 22:46.04 | rare | sorry |
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| 22:46.35 | f8l | prefixed: It depends how load you put on it. |
| 22:47.35 | f8l | rare: I'm not a mc expert (in fact I have never used it), but „OK” does not say much about your conf files. I think pasting it somewhere (not here) would be a good idea. |
| 22:47.40 | zykotick9 | TheWarden: hopefully no one will ever use your package (as it currently stands anyways). don't try to modify disk health checks on others systems... |
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| 22:48.25 | TheWarden | zykotick9: I would agree but this is a kiosk use only situation, one needs to reduce down time. If it was up to me I would leave it at default. |
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| 22:48.58 | f8l | rare: Are you aware you just said you were sorry to a bot? ;-) |
| 22:49.25 | rare | cool :) |
| 22:49.33 | zykotick9 | TheWarden: reduce downtime, by removing fs checking probably is counter productive... good luck. |
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| 22:49.54 | bezaban | are TLS and SASL considered as secure for SMTP authentication to exim? Is there something I can use that is an improvement? |
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| 22:50.31 | f8l | TheWarden: Maybe you should consider changing the filesystem, but that's not something you can do in a postinst script. ;-) |
| 22:50.36 | TheWarden | zykotick9: lol well I would agree... this doesn't remove it it just sets it further away until a check is done. I think default is 39, its been set to 90. |
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| 22:51.18 | TheWarden | f8l: oh really I can't execute tune2fs -c90 /dev/sda1 within the postist script? |
| 22:51.33 | f8l | TheWarden: IIRC these values are somewhat randomized to avoid multiple checks at the same time. |
| 22:52.14 | TheWarden | f8l: oh, well that would make sense. |
| 22:52.15 | f8l | TheWarden: You can. I mean you can't change the filesystem from there. (as long as it is not a ext→btrfs transition ;-) |
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| 22:53.22 | zykotick9 | or "sudo -i" i'm not clear on the difference. |
| 22:54.52 | f8l | bezaban: I'd ask that question somewhere else. #exim perhaps should it exist. |
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| 22:55.25 | f8l | zykotick9: sudo? |
| 22:55.40 | abrotman | bezaban: what's your alternative? |
| 22:55.44 | zykotick9 | f8l: sorry, wrong channel |
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| 22:56.01 | coderanger | Anywhere better I should ask about apt internals? |
| 22:56.35 | f8l | coderanger: You may try -mentors, I think. |
| 22:56.43 | abrotman | coderanger: probably depends on the age of the distro you're targeting |
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| 22:56.56 | asterismo | zykotick9, i dunno... i just installed debian testing xfce and after login, when connecting to a wifi network it prompted for the root password in a very ugly window style... i thaught it was un-rendered gtk3 in there |
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| 22:57.07 | coderanger | abrotman: No more than ~3 years old |
| 22:57.27 | coderanger | 5/10.04 probably |
| 22:57.30 | abrotman | coderanger: i'd probably do both just to be safe .. i see wheezy packages have all three still |
| 22:57.40 | zykotick9 | asterismo: i wouldn't know, i don't really use xfce (or any other DE for that matter) best of luck. |
| 22:57.45 | f8l | asterismo: Maybe you are lacking some themes or haven't set one yet. |
| 22:58.16 | f8l | tries to recall the times when he used xfce… |
| 22:58.19 | Myrtti | asterismo: installing xfce4 doesn't pull any gtk3 themes with it |
| 22:58.47 | abrotman | says both, then says three :) |
| 22:59.21 | coderanger | abrotman: Down this path lies madness ;-) |
| 22:59.31 | abrotman | coderanger: if you're actually targetting Ubuntu, you sohuld ask them to see what they support |
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| 22:59.42 | abrotman | thinks they have a #ubuntu-dev or something like that |
| 22:59.57 | coderanger | abrotman: Roger, will try all the things |
| 23:00.08 | coderanger | I can also just leave them out and see if apt-get explodes on sync :) |
| 23:00.10 | petn-randall | asterismo: I use xfce on wheezy. Which root password prompt do you mean? gksudo? |
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| 23:00.25 | asterismo | i dunno |
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| 23:00.42 | f8l | petn-randall: Probably. |
| 23:00.50 | asterismo | petn-randall, it asked me the root password for connecting to the WPA2 network |
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| 23:01.48 | petn-randall | asterismo: Hmmm, don't get that ... I'm wondering how it's set up on mine, then. |
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| 23:02.35 | babilen | Sounds as if gksu(do) is not configured in sudo mode. (see gksu(1)) |
| 23:02.52 | petn-randall | asterismo: You're probably missing some packages, I guess. Did you install xfce via the package 'xfce'? |
| 23:02.55 | babilen | You can set that in gconf somewhere (the key is in the manpage) |
| 23:02.57 | asterismo | sudo package was not installed |
| 23:03.20 | asterismo | i had to install firmware-ralink in order to connect with my wifi dongle... and then installed sudo |
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| 23:04.37 | Myrtti | if you want it to work as it would in Ubuntu you need to set it up to ask for sudo password instead of root password |
| 23:05.26 | Rachelcrow | http://getworld.uk.to - Online Multyplayer Game - How rich you can be? - |
| 23:05.27 | babilen | asterismo: Ok, add yourself to the sudo group (adduser YOURUSER sudo) and run "gconftool-2 -t bool -s /apps/gksu/sudo-mode true" (or use gksu-properties) |
| 23:05.28 | asterismo | anyway, i see that facebook complains about enabling javascript in the page |
| 23:05.37 | asterismo | iceweasl does have javascript enabled |
| 23:05.47 | asterismo | it is my wife's netbook |
| 23:06.12 | babilen | asterismo: You might need a newer Iceweasel version -- Which Debian version do you use? |
| 23:06.17 | asterismo | babilen, i edited the /etc/sudoers file with the user |
| 23:06.30 | asterismo | testing |
| 23:06.40 | asterismo | iceweasl 10 it says |
| 23:06.48 | babilen | asterismo: That's okay too. Adding the user to the sudo group is simple easier for the "allow user to do everyhting" case |
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| 23:07.00 | babilen | asterismo: That should be fine for FB shouldn't it? |
| 23:07.27 | asterismo | the page render is different than ubuntu 12.04+firefox as was before |
| 23:07.33 | petn-randall | asterismo: sounds like you may have noscript or something similar installed. |
| 23:07.40 | asterismo | now i wiped the netbook with debian testing |
| 23:07.43 | asterismo | iceweasl |
| 23:07.50 | asterismo | i dunno |
| 23:08.18 | asterismo | and i have no auto-completions for thunderbird |
| 23:08.27 | asterismo | it has another name maybe? |
| 23:09.44 | asterismo | it is default iceweasl that came with testing installation |
| 23:10.49 | asterismo | the touchpad has no tapping, how do i enable it? |
| 23:11.21 | f8l | asterismo: Is synaptics driver installed? |
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| 23:11.38 | asterismo | and the next thing i need to do is turn off the powersaving of the hard drive because it is continuously parking |
| 23:11.42 | themill | (one question at a time and you'll do better at getting answers) |
| 23:11.45 | asterismo | synaptics? |
| 23:11.53 | asterismo | like, apt-get install synaptics? |
| 23:12.09 | abrotman | synaptic ? |
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| 23:12.22 | asterismo | with an 's' |
| 23:13.12 | bezaban | f8l: yeah, it's a pretty quiet place, but thanks |
| 23:13.13 | f8l | asterismo: No. I don't mean the package manager. |
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| 23:13.32 | themill | asterismo: I'd be surprised if you don't already have it installed, but you need to enable tap-to-click |
| 23:13.34 | bezaban | that was re: exim |
| 23:14.33 | f8l | bezaban: IIRC abrotman wanted to answer your question. |
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| 23:15.17 | f8l | asterismo: I meant xserver-xorg-input-synaptics. |
| 23:15.20 | bolt | is there a cd image without a graphical splash? it doesn't seem to work too well over a serial console :) |
| 23:15.25 | abrotman | i asked a question |
| 23:15.40 | abrotman | bolt: graphical meaning the text prompt? |
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| 23:16.06 | bolt | abrotman: the first screen that appears on boot, where you can select graphical or text based install etc |
| 23:16.22 | bolt | abrotman: i get only some garbage on the serial line when that's supposed to appear |
| 23:16.23 | abrotman | should work over serial console |
| 23:17.33 | bezaban | abrotman: alternatives are multiple options supported by exim. Requirements are that they are not host nor key based, so narrows it down |
| 23:18.34 | f8l | Good night. |
| 23:18.37 | zykotick9 | abrotman: debian installer (netinst for example) is only text, there is some gui in there. confirmed by trying to install using qemu's console option. it fails. |
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| 23:18.57 | zykotick9 | s/is only text/is NOT only text/ |
| 23:19.13 | wolfmitchell | What would happen if I set a user's shell to /bin/true? |
| 23:19.51 | abrotman | zykotick9: and what? |
| 23:19.59 | abrotman | wolfmitchell: nothing useful |
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| 23:20.10 | wolfmitchell | would it still block login? |
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| 23:20.28 | zykotick9 | abrotman: and nothing. just pointing out, it's not just text (as it would appear to be). |
| 23:20.30 | wolfmitchell | but still exit witl '0'? |
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| 23:22.18 | asterismo | thunderbird? |
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| 23:23.47 | asterismo | how do i install thunderbird in testing? |
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| 23:24.52 | themill | asterismo: aptitude install icedove |
| 23:25.02 | TheWarden | gtg, take care all |
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| 23:25.20 | sparadokos | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:25.28 | sparadokos | How may I go about cleaning that? |
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| 23:25.51 | abrotman | sparadokos: new mirror |
| 23:25.52 | asterismo | petn-randall, it is the application polkit-gnome-au the one that it is asking me for root password when i attempt to connect to a wifi network |
| 23:26.17 | wolfmitchell | asterismo, also, apt-cache help |
| 23:26.18 | sparadokos | just finished updating and upgrading to wheezy |
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| 23:26.28 | asterismo | petn-randall, in ubuntu i think i fixed that in users and groups application, under system apps |
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| 23:32.13 | asterismo | how do i install the 'users and group' application? |
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| 23:32.35 | abrotman | asterismo: in gnome? |
| 23:32.40 | asterismo | so i can grant the user for connecting to networks, use printers, etc |
| 23:32.42 | asterismo | in xfce |
| 23:33.03 | asterismo | or xfce equivalent |
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| 23:35.15 | asterismo | anyone? |
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