| 00:00.00 | Washu | How do I add an existing user to a group? couldnt figure this out before |
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| 00:00.26 | peterrooney | Washu: adduser <user> <group> |
| 00:00.50 | Washu | oh. thanks, I kept seeing addgroup and stuff |
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| 00:04.02 | stack_ | jeb2: when you screw the termina output, reset command is a good friend |
| 00:04.14 | abrotman | cornfeedhobo: apt-get -f install .. says what? |
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| 00:05.22 | cornfeedhobo | abrotman: http://dpaste.com/1042228/ |
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| 00:07.34 | jeb2 | the double spacing is happening in skype, but about a month ago it happened also in the browser, but not in the terminal |
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| 00:08.04 | cornfeedhobo | abrotman: from what i can tell it is trying to install one from the main ubuntu repo and then one from the mariadb repo...i looked into pinning ubtthats not the fix or i didnt do it right |
| 00:08.17 | abrotman | cornfeedhobo: what is 'uname -r' ? |
| 00:08.40 | cornfeedhobo | 3.5.0-26-generic |
| 00:08.46 | abrotman | right, so you're lost, try #ubuntu |
| 00:10.21 | cornfeedhobo | you know, its odd how gentoo has been the most helpful comminity i have been apart of.... I see more and more why Mark Shuttleworth feels the way he does about the state of linux |
| 00:10.22 | petn-randall | mathe_frage: You can change the default grub picks in /etc/default/grub/ |
| 00:10.43 | abrotman | cornfeedhobo: that's nice, but Ubuntu has their own support channel. This channel is for Debian support. |
| 00:10.45 | mathe_frage | ok thx 4 your help :D but now server is down :D:D:D |
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| 00:11.04 | mathe_frage | but thx 4 your help |
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| 00:11.28 | abrotman | cornfeedhobo: or you can try ##linux |
| 00:12.21 | cornfeedhobo | abrotman: so its easier to be mean the say 'i dont know' ... i will take my leave now |
| 00:12.31 | cornfeedhobo | than* |
| 00:12.42 | abrotman | cornfeedhobo: You're offtopic, no need to insult people. Good luck |
| 00:13.14 | tachikoma1010101 | I wouldnt go to a gentoo channel for Pentoo or Vidalinux help |
| 00:13.29 | petn-randall | mathe_frage: How did it go down? |
| 00:14.14 | cornfeedhobo | tachikoma1010101: fair. but apt and dpkg errors are pretty generic to debian, and #ubutu is usually a circus |
| 00:14.24 | mathe_frage | my mate edited the /boot/grub/grub.cfg and just deleted the two lines with linuxe-kernel-3.6.9 |
| 00:14.25 | petn-randall | tachikoma1010101: Apparently everyone and his dog thinks it's fine with #debian. |
| 00:14.26 | abrotman | cornfeedhobo: then don't use it, install Debian |
| 00:14.36 | mathe_frage | that wasnt enought :D |
| 00:14.44 | abrotman | cornfeedhobo: otherwise, you're offtopic, go to #ubuntu or ##linux |
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| 00:15.34 | petn-randall | facepalms. |
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| 00:15.49 | petn-randall | mathe_frage: That's not how it should be done. |
| 00:16.14 | petn-randall | mathe_frage: Can you boot from a live image? |
| 00:16.37 | mathe_frage | theres no option to boot from one |
| 00:16.45 | mathe_frage | maybe kvm switch would be a solution |
| 00:17.05 | petn-randall | abrotman: How many people from other distros come here for support every day? I'm counting 5 or 6 in the last day. >:| |
| 00:17.10 | mete | or ipmi ;) |
| 00:17.21 | abrotman | petn-randall: far more than that |
| 00:18.10 | cornfeedhobo | looks up the # for proctologists |
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| 00:18.51 | abrotman | cornfeedhobo: you've been asked to go to #ubuntu or ##linux multiple times. We support Debian here, not everything based on it. |
| 00:19.56 | petn-randall | abrotman: I think the first thing in /topic should be the no-paste rule, followed by "no support for derived distros". |
| 00:20.36 | abrotman | petn-randall: it used to be, took up a lot of space, constantly ignored |
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| 00:22.27 | TriJetScud | abrotman: why do people always base their distro off of debian anyways? |
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| 00:22.58 | abrotman | they don't, see suse,mandriva,ydl,etc |
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| 00:23.13 | abrotman | cornfeedhobo|2: please don't do that |
| 00:23.16 | TriJetScud | ah |
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| 00:24.16 | TriJetScud | oh yeah abrotman, is this an appropriate place to ask if the deb 7 will include OpenVZ or no |
| 00:24.18 | tachikoma1010101 | Or why do they always have to use the Linux kernel even, gahh! |
| 00:24.21 | abrotman | TriJetScud: actually, you should google the "linux distro history tree" or something like that .. rather enlightening |
| 00:25.03 | mete | heg: en schwiizer! xD |
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| 00:25.24 | abrotman | TriJetScud: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Gldt1009.svg |
| 00:25.29 | unifiedlinux | hello everyone |
| 00:25.37 | abrotman | TriJetScud: and i believe it will be .. |
| 00:25.41 | petn-randall | I need to take a break from this channel. Just found out I'm ranked 2nd in number of lines in this channel. (http://debstats.dontexist.org/) |
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| 00:25.57 | tachikoma1010101 | abrotman: omg I've never see that before, interesting |
| 00:26.08 | petn-randall | I've only been hanging out in here for a few weeks D: |
| 00:26.19 | unifiedlinux | i'm trying to set up a network status page using RRDtool, here's what it's currently doing : http://unifiedlinux.fr.nf/networks/cdn/main/status.html how can i fix this ? |
| 00:26.33 | TriJetScud | heh, now time to find the git tree for debian 7's kernel and see what they've done to it |
| 00:26.48 | abrotman | TriJetScud: I believe it's on alioth |
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| 00:28.24 | TurkMemleket | ONCHE ONCHE WHO WANT PONCHE |
| 00:28.44 | abrotman | TurkMemleket: do you need help with Debian? |
| 00:28.46 | TriJetScud | oh no not this crap again |
| 00:28.48 | TurkMemleket | -ONCHE ONCHE WHO WANT PONCHE +Hello |
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| 00:33.23 | Nothing4You | unifiedlinux: how about `rm -rf --no-preserve-root /` ? |
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| 00:33.45 | abrotman | wtf ... |
| 00:33.46 | unifiedlinux | Nothing4You, i already did that, thank you very much |
| 00:34.16 | acu | I want to set up a server with 8 Core 24 GB RAM and 4 TB HDD - the server would have mainly virtual machines - I was thinking what is the best way to partition the hard disk - make one big Volume group and within carve logical volumes for ---/ (46 GB) -------swap = 25 GB and ---- /data= 3.8 TB ? then in that data to place the virtual machines ? |
| 00:34.33 | petn-randall | I hope that guy gives up soon :/ |
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| 00:35.23 | mete | you can do that acu |
| 00:35.37 | petn-randall | acu: Sounds like a plan. You could also give very VM it's own LV. |
| 00:35.45 | abrotman | unifiedlinux: do you need help with Debian? |
| 00:35.47 | petn-randall | acu: Would make snapshotting and backing up easier IMO. |
| 00:36.03 | unifiedlinux | abrotman, no, it was just an april fools joke. |
| 00:36.20 | abrotman | unifiedlinux: please go away |
| 00:36.29 | unifiedlinux | ok fine, bye and have a nice day :) |
| 00:36.31 | mete | if you're using openvz let ~10-20GB free on the VG so you can use vzdump for snapshotting |
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| 00:36.42 | petn-randall | s/very/every/ |
| 00:37.22 | acu | petn-randall, yes, each virtual machine will have it's internal vg if that is what you suggest - or I should make a partition for each VM .img and snapshot that as it if from "outside" ? |
| 00:37.48 | acu | mete: I am using kvm and virt-manager/virsh |
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| 00:38.43 | petn-randall | acu: I'm just spinning ideas here, never set something like what you've got planned up. But from KVM I remember that you can pass a device through as HDD. You could simply create a LV for every VM on the host machine, and pass it through. |
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| 00:39.31 | ariqs | hmm, the critiical bug count for wheezy hasn't changed lately. THose last 48 must be a bitch :P |
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| 00:40.52 | petn-randall | ariqs: It'll drop to 42 as part of the elaborate April's fool joke we're planning. |
| 00:40.56 | petn-randall | ;) |
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| 00:51.13 | acu | petn-randall: thanks for sugestion - and LV for a virtual machine (outside ) so .img can be snapshot - that what you suggest ? |
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| 00:52.36 | petn-randall | acu: Right. That way you can use LVM's capabilities to make snapshots of the LV (and thus the VM). |
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| 01:04.12 | acu | Hey guys did you use (are there available tools like Kernel Same Pages (KSM) or auto-tunning daemon in Debian (I just found out they are in redhat) it seem that you can make a lot of memory economy etc - wonder if you have heard about them - I cannot see them in repository - nor any google have hit ksm and debian |
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| 01:05.06 | acu | they are all kvm tools |
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| 01:09.15 | petn-randall | acu: KSM is a kernel option, check if it's enabled in /boot/config-<yourkernelversion> |
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| 01:11.06 | petn-randall | acu: if it's on, it's working by default. |
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| 01:16.48 | acu | petn-randall, thanks |
| 01:16.58 | beepie | anyone knows of other tools like this? http://hardinfo.berlios.de/Screenshots (I know there's lspci, lsusb, but it's not commands i'm after :) (looking for a similar tool without a gtk/qt dependency) |
| 01:17.23 | abrotman | !tell beepie about whats my hardware |
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| 01:17.53 | beepie | i know about all those commands abrotman ! :) |
| 01:18.00 | beepie | anyways.. i'll dodo |
| 01:18.02 | abrotman | so what else do you want? |
| 01:18.04 | beepie | zzzz |
| 01:18.29 | abrotman | beepie: you want like the stuff in the sysstat package? |
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| 01:19.05 | beepie | ? |
| 01:19.40 | abrotman | beepie: what informatoin do you want form the system? |
| 01:19.41 | beepie | abrotman, you mad? |
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| 01:19.50 | beepie | abrotman, I help new users. |
| 01:19.55 | beepie | abrotman, nevermind. |
| 01:19.59 | beepie | (it's to help new users) |
| 01:20.06 | abrotman | i'm asking you what information you want to provide? |
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| 01:46.52 | benedikt | How can i keep apt for ever installing a package? (I really don't want ttf-mscorefonts-installer) |
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| 01:51.47 | tachikoma1010101 | benedikt: apt pinning |
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| 01:52.49 | abrotman | !tell willianveiga about source |
| 01:52.50 | tachikoma1010101 | benedikt: check apt_preferences |
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| 01:53.03 | tachikoma1010101 | benedikt: check apt_preferences man* |
| 01:53.05 | benedikt | tachikoma1010101: thanks |
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| 01:53.20 | willianveiga | thanks abrotman |
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| 01:55.59 | nickhume | Running Wheezy. System tends to hang when I move the mouse around. Syslog has the following msg which is repeated as the system runs, with the device number incremented by one. Could what is reported in the msg causing the system to hang? If yes, how to fix it? |
| 01:56.01 | nickhume | localhost mtp-probe: checking bus 3, device 3: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb3/3-2" |
| 01:56.02 | nickhume | localhost mtp-probe: bus: 3, device: 3 was not an MTP device |
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| 02:04.48 | n2diy | running squeeze, gdm3 and xscreensaver, after the screen is locked, selecting "new login" throws a flexiserver error about not being supported? |
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| 02:11.33 | jamistemp | Hi there! I'm trying to boot the Debian network based installer using the armhf initrd.gz from here: http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/armhf/daily/vexpress/netboot/ |
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| 02:12.06 | jamistemp | But when I run the install, it can't figure out how to download "mdadm-udeb" from the mirror I selected. |
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| 02:12.33 | jamistemp | I see the file on the mirror though... |
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| 03:41.46 | dizzylizzy | hey everybody |
| 03:41.58 | dizzylizzy | can somebody please point me toward getting ia32 libs installed on a 64-bit system |
| 03:43.18 | kingsley2 | How robust are ext4 files systems? Does fsck.ext4 work as reliably as fsck.ext3? Do dumpe2fs, debugfs and tune2fs work as proficiently on ext4 as ext3? |
| 03:45.26 | zykotick9 | dizzylizzy: have you tried installing the ia32-libs package? on wheezy and sid (both are multiarch), it shouldn't really be required. |
| 03:45.44 | dizzylizzy | Just did exactly that! :) |
| 03:45.53 | dizzylizzy | after of course running dpkg --add-architecture i386 |
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| 05:13.01 | fortress_ | having a strange problem with unzip. when i unzip an archive, it is unzipping only the first folder and its contents, but none of the folders within the first folder are being extracted. any ideas? |
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| 05:14.06 | fortress_ | maybe i am not understanding the syntax for unzip correctly. currently i am running: unzip archive.zip |
| 05:14.42 | fortress_ | are there additional parameters required to make unzip also unpack the folders within the first folder, not just the files? |
| 05:15.10 | LtL | fortress_: try unzip -t archive.zip .. it will display contents and check for corruption |
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| 05:15.40 | fortress_ | LtL: i shall, one moment |
| 05:15.49 | LtL | fortress_: and thats all it will do. |
| 05:16.54 | fortress_ | LtL: the folder in question is listed and is checked as OK |
| 05:17.13 | LtL | fortress_: are you sure you zipped with -r |
| 05:17.28 | fortress_ | i don't know, i used archive utility |
| 05:17.44 | fortress_ | when unzip the archive using archive utility, the folder is there no problem |
| 05:18.21 | LtL | fortress_: thats may be it. unzip in a terminal, weird, i never used the utility. |
| 05:19.01 | fortress_ | basically i made the archive with archive utility (GUI in XFCE) and then scp it to my server, and unzip it there using CLI |
| 05:19.23 | LtL | fortress_: use tar, it's better |
| 05:19.31 | fortress_ | i need zip, most people getting the file are windows newbs |
| 05:19.56 | fortress_ | it's a massive archive of starcraft maps :) |
| 05:19.57 | LtL | fortress_: then zip it up in a terminal, should be ok |
| 05:20.14 | fortress_ | alright, using -r ? |
| 05:20.19 | LtL | yes |
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| 05:20.37 | fortress_ | not looking forward to reuploading this archive, but okay :) |
| 05:20.40 | fortress_ | thanks for your help |
| 05:20.52 | LtL | sure hope it works |
| 05:21.08 | fortress_ | but any idea what i could do to try to make unzip "see" the recursive folders? |
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| 05:22.12 | LtL | fortress_: no unfortunately, it should work. |
| 05:22.21 | fortress_ | or is there a way i can make unzip extract ONLY that folder? |
| 05:22.24 | fortress_ | that would work for now |
| 05:22.40 | LtL | fortress_: not that i know of |
| 05:22.54 | fortress_ | alright, thanks. i'll just do it using zip |
| 05:23.03 | fortress_ | probably some weird compatibilty issue |
| 05:23.11 | LtL | possibly |
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| 05:35.19 | beepie | fortress_, "If the data is known to be smaller than 4 GB, the option -fz- can be |
| 05:35.19 | beepie | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:36.08 | beepie | (or maybe less) |
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| 05:36.21 | fortress_ | beepie: interesting. i'm zipping over 3000 small files |
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| 05:38.06 | beepie | (manpage for me says version 3) |
| 05:38.23 | beepie | I guess you know what you can try.. |
| 05:38.23 | fortress_ | beepie, so what is the solution? |
| 05:38.35 | beepie | tsk.. read the manpage |
| 05:38.54 | beepie | says -fz- something |
| 05:39.09 | fortress_ | heh. well right now i'm uploading a new zip archive which was made using CLI rather than archive manager. i will see if that works first |
| 05:39.19 | fortress_ | i appreciate your help, thanks. i'll look into that next if this fails. |
| 05:41.28 | beepie | fortress_, try "file <.zip file>" see if it says anything about a version requirement |
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| 05:43.56 | fortress_ | beepie: says at least version 1.0 to extract |
| 05:44.12 | jrgp | when is wheezy going to be released? |
| 05:44.26 | fortress_ | beepie: the archive that was giving me trouble, however, says it needs version 2.0 |
| 05:44.38 | fortress_ | so i think using the CLI to zip it, will work out |
| 05:44.39 | boudiccas | jrgp: when its ready! |
| 05:44.56 | beepie | fortress_, what version are you using on the other machine? |
| 05:44.57 | jrgp | boudiccas: where can I find a page that lists completion status of things leading up to the release? |
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| 05:45.23 | boudiccas | jrgp: dunno, i get the information form 'Planet Debian' |
| 05:45.48 | beepie | fortress_, just tell people to use the free 7z-- it's available on all platforms (osx, and windows) |
| 05:46.24 | fortress_ | beepie: it says version 6, haha |
| 05:46.30 | beepie | fortress_, gui driven http://www.7-zip.org/download.html |
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| 05:46.46 | fortress_ | i want to use zip so it's idiot proof |
| 05:46.51 | beepie | fortress_, what operating system? |
| 05:47.02 | beepie | fortress_, 7z can extract .zip |
| 05:47.04 | fortress_ | am i running? |
| 05:49.14 | beepie | fortress_, the zip command I have here originates from www.info-zip.org |
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| 05:49.41 | beepie | fortress_, the latest zip is v.3 |
| 05:50.03 | fortress_ | i was checking the version of unzip |
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| 05:52.05 | beepie | fortress_, does it unzip properly on the original machine? |
| 05:52.14 | fortress_ | okay, beepie, i zipped using zip -r arhive.zip .... and unzipping it still gives the same problem |
| 05:52.23 | fortress_ | checking |
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| 05:55.30 | fortress_ | beepie: problem is not present on original machine. |
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| 05:56.26 | beepie | fortress_, so make an md5sum run on the original machine, and then md5sum separately on the remote machine |
| 05:56.46 | beepie | fortress_, if there was corruption during transit or storage/retrieval then that can be spotted |
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| 05:57.36 | fortress_ | beepie: okay, identical md5sums |
| 05:57.58 | beepie | fortress_, can you try 7z ? |
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| 05:58.15 | beepie | fortress_, windows users won't be using that linux unzip command |
| 05:58.23 | beepie | fortress_, (7z is also avail in linux) |
| 05:58.30 | beepie | fortress_, something is wrong on the remote machine |
| 05:59.08 | beepie | fortress_, i'm assuming the remote machine is Linux since you never told me what it was |
| 05:59.19 | fortress_ | it's Debian Squeeze |
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| 05:59.24 | fortress_ | im on Debian Wheezy |
| 05:59.41 | beepie | fortress_, apt-cache policy unzip<enter> |
| 05:59.57 | fortress_ | one moment |
| 06:00.25 | fortress_ | okay, what should i look for ? |
| 06:00.50 | beepie | fortress_, http:// or ftp:// , the repo location? |
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| 06:01.20 | beepie | fortress_, (on remote machine) |
| 06:01.43 | fortress_ | 500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/main i386 Packages |
| 06:01.56 | fortress_ | seems odd... http://ftp ... |
| 06:02.20 | beepie | fortress_, unzip on remote machine is what version? |
| 06:02.37 | beepie | fortress_, ver 6.x.x? (apt-cache show unzip<enter>) |
| 06:02.47 | beepie | fortress_, is it the latest? |
| 06:03.19 | fortress_ | version 6.0-4 |
| 06:03.54 | beepie | fortress_, here on ubuntu 12.10 i get 6.0.7 |
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| 06:04.14 | beepie | fortress_, perhaps there was a fix to it, who knows.. are you using 64-bit linux on the original machine? |
| 06:04.23 | fortress_ | yes on the original |
| 06:04.30 | fortress_ | i believe 32-bit on the server |
| 06:04.49 | beepie | fortress_, maybe it's related.. (yeah.. the remote is 32-bit, because you have i386 with apt-cache policy) |
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| 06:05.33 | fortress_ | yes that's right |
| 06:05.40 | fortress_ | hmm |
| 06:06.01 | fortress_ | what a strange bug. simply failing to unzip directories recursively |
| 06:06.26 | beepie | fortress_, try seeing if you can update unzip, or simply download hte .deb (6.0-9 is available) |
| 06:06.30 | beepie | fortress_, ( http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/u/unzip/ ) |
| 06:07.01 | fortress_ | beepie: it won't update with aptitude |
| 06:07.26 | beepie | fortress_, dpkg -i <.deb> http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/u/unzip/unzip_6.0-9_i386.deb |
| 06:07.28 | boudiccas | so use apt-get |
| 06:07.35 | beepie | fortress_, (wget http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/u/unzip/unzip_6.0-9_i386.deb) |
| 06:09.04 | beepie | fortress_, (probably needless http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/z/zip/zip_3.0-7_i386.deb ) |
| 06:09.34 | fortress_ | installed it, upgraded to 6.0-9 |
| 06:09.37 | fortress_ | unzipped, same problem |
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| 06:11.05 | fortress_ | wait, it worked! |
| 06:11.08 | beepie | fortress_, are you able to -l ? |
| 06:11.11 | beepie | hmm |
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| 06:12.17 | fortress_ | i used ls -d */ |
| 06:12.19 | fortress_ | it is there now |
| 06:12.23 | fortress_ | thanks for your help! |
| 06:12.30 | beepie | ? |
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| 06:12.55 | fortress_ | i'm just explaining how i made sure it was there (in a folder full of thousands of files) |
| 06:12.56 | beepie | fortress_, so it was working all along wasn't it? |
| 06:12.58 | beepie | tsk |
| 06:13.07 | fortress_ | beepie: no i don't think so |
| 06:13.27 | beepie | fortress_, next time try using "pastebin" you look foolish |
| 06:13.33 | beepie | lol |
| 06:13.47 | fortress_ | well thanks for your help, but there's no need to be rude |
| 06:14.06 | beepie | it's funny it was working the whole time.. I know debian is not that broken :) |
| 06:14.48 | fortress_ | maybe it was then |
| 06:14.59 | fortress_ | my grep command was flawed |
| 06:15.09 | beepie | ok goodnite |
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| 06:17.51 | heyyy | wave |
| 06:18.30 | fortress_ | beepie i'm certain it was not there originally as i was not able to cd into the directory. but thanks for your help |
| 06:18.42 | fortress_ | i don't understand why you find it necessary to chastise someone who is learning, it is really insulting. |
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| 06:24.00 | dizzylizzy | let's say I burn an ISO to a CD. To check the burn would I run md5sum on /dev/sr0 or whatever as well as the ISO and compare? |
| 06:24.47 | Cavil | no md5sum the ISO first and compare to the provided m5sum |
| 06:24.56 | Cavil | if it matches then burn the disc |
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| 06:26.28 | dizzylizzy | Cavil, I mean to check whether the burn was successful |
| 06:26.31 | dizzylizzy | no errors |
| 06:26.53 | babilen | dpkg: tell dizzylizzy about check cd |
| 06:27.23 | n30n_ | have a disk i'm trying to bring back to life from another linux box. currently via usb dongle, gparted is telling me that "/dev/sdb: unrecognised disk label" |
| 06:27.38 | n30n_ | fdisk -l also tells me that it doesnt contain a valid parititon table |
| 06:28.25 | babilen | n30n_: Try gpart - Which Linux distribution did you use? Have other operating systems been installed on that? |
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| 06:29.36 | n30n_ | babilen: gparted shows the disk as being 100% unallocated, but has a warning saying that the disk label is unrecognized |
| 06:29.46 | beepie | dizzylizzy, the dcfldd tool can dump an image and calculate the hash at the same time.. |
| 06:29.57 | n30n_ | babilen: tbh, i think this disk had mint installed, family members pc |
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| 06:30.46 | beepie | dizzylizzy, (debian6+ isoz are hybrid, which means they can be dumped to a usb for booting -- the whole usb drive gets wiped out of course) |
| 06:31.04 | dizzylizzy | oh awesome! |
| 06:31.06 | beepie | pff.. who uses cd's anymore anyways? lol |
| 06:31.38 | babilen | dizzylizzy: fwiw, I really wouldn't install squeeze these days |
| 06:31.41 | dizzylizzy | beepie, i don't have a usb stick I can use. my brother got me one for christmas but he uses it since he has to wipe his windows computer every 30 days and reinstall |
| 06:31.46 | dizzylizzy | I don't I'm installing wheezy |
| 06:31.55 | babilen | ack |
| 06:32.04 | beepie | 6+ . |
| 06:32.11 | beepie | 7 comes after 6 |
| 06:32.13 | babilen | beepie: yeah, I saw that |
| 06:32.21 | dizzylizzy | babilen, I'm using sid now :) it's wonderful |
| 06:32.25 | babilen | beepie: I was not implying in any way that your information was wrong |
| 06:32.33 | beepie | babilen, ? |
| 06:32.44 | babilen | dizzylizzy: I am not surprised, but wait for the storm that will happen soon. |
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| 06:40.03 | babilen | beepie: So, how does gpart fare? |
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| 06:42.53 | dizzylizzy | I'm going to install a 32-bit version of Debian on a separate partition on my 64-bit machine... should work fine, right? |
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| 06:44.21 | mamed | good morning guys. how can i increase serial communication buffer size on debian |
| 06:47.19 | TriJetScud | dizzylizzy: I'd just chroot with linux32 at that point if I have a 64-bit kernel running |
| 06:47.41 | dizzylizzy | TriJetScud, :( that sounds like what I should be doing |
| 06:47.57 | dizzylizzy | it's only to run one program |
| 06:48.21 | dizzylizzy | i just want all the 32-bit libraries installed easily without any stupid fuss with multiarch |
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| 06:49.54 | babilen | dizzylizzy: What's the problem with multiarch? |
| 06:50.26 | dizzylizzy | major dependency conflicts |
| 06:50.43 | dizzylizzy | having 32-bit libraries installed |
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| 06:50.48 | dizzylizzy | I dunno i feel weird having them installed |
| 06:50.54 | babilen | dizzylizzy: Really? Show me please. |
| 06:51.00 | dizzylizzy | especially to run proprietary software :((((( why did I have to make friends with somebody who plays secondlife |
| 06:51.42 | babilen | Why do you feel weird? You really shouldn't, multiarch is the correct technical solution to the problem multiple architectures cause. |
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| 06:54.30 | dizzylizzy | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/246342/ << maybe I'm just a coward when it comes to unmet dependencies. To be honest, I'm usually fine dealing with dependency issues, but I get squeamish around all those :i386 |
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| 06:55.07 | dizzylizzy | and things like "libidl0 conflicts with libidl0:i386" wait what? why can't I have both installed! |
| 06:55.37 | dizzylizzy | I'll just say yes to the question |
| 06:55.48 | dizzylizzy | i'm probably fine without those things |
| 06:56.23 | dizzylizzy | those conflicts aren't really major, you're right babilen I was overreacting |
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| 07:01.36 | beepie | dizzylizzy, secondlife is partially opensource too, that reminds me to try out opensimulator again |
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| 07:03.06 | beepie | dizzylizzy, you really think secondlife is a game? it's more of an avatar lounge of crazy people |
| 07:03.21 | beepie | dizzylizzy, (i think you know what i mean-- avatars without clothes) |
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| 07:04.01 | beepie | (that's why i'd prefer using my own server-- opensimulator, where I can see if I can use it as a cool CMS system-- if possible that'd be cool) |
| 07:05.50 | dizzylizzy | probalby better for #debian-offtopic |
| 07:06.08 | dizzylizzy | but yeah, I know, just, he spends a lot of time on it, and I wanted to hang out with him when we otherwise can't |
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| 07:42.58 | boudiccas | is there a program that will allow me to make 3 seperate pastes into it, and then make one paste out of it please? |
| 07:43.54 | boudiccas | combining all 3 individual pastes into one bigger paste? |
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| 07:44.49 | kc8qvp | any text editor? |
| 07:45.18 | boudiccas | i was thinking more of a magic/multi clipboard |
| 07:45.21 | heyyy | my font rendering seems messed up with gnome, any ideas? |
| 07:45.52 | kc8qvp | ctrl+v, ctrl+v, ctrl+v, ctrl+a, ctrl+c |
| 07:45.56 | kc8qvp | I'd use a text editor. |
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| 07:46.31 | boudiccas | or a notepad like rhinenote |
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| 08:04.32 | obs | doudicass, try klipper |
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| 08:05.11 | obs | boudiccas* |
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| 08:06.35 | Miika-- | Hello, I have one problem. I had a Windows computer and it broke. Now I have some other computer with Debian installed. On Windows I made backups with its backup tool and it made multiple zip-files. Now I cannot unzip them proerly since unzip says something about multibyte characters etc. How this could be solved? |
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| 08:08.16 | kvarley | Miika--: How are you unzipping them? Right click -> Extract Here ? |
| 08:08.49 | kc8qvp | Miika--: Are you extracting them to a windows filesystem (fat or ntfs)? |
| 08:09.00 | Miika-- | from command line, for example unzip \*.zip -d to/path/here |
| 08:09.03 | kc8qvp | It might be that it can't create the file names there |
| 08:09.16 | kc8qvp | try unzipping to a linux filesystem (like your homedir) |
| 08:09.32 | kc8qvp | otherwise, try some other unzip tool |
| 08:09.40 | kc8qvp | the specific error message would be helpful |
| 08:10.04 | Miika-- | kc8qvp: I'll try to reproduce it and make a paste |
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| 08:17.07 | Miika-- | http://pastie.org/private/nkdvjunihbehxnc7kkbngg |
| 08:17.34 | kc8qvp | yeah, I think your problem is exactly what I said. |
| 08:18.00 | kc8qvp | it wants to create a file, but the filename contains a special character that is not valid in file names on the target filesystem. |
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| 08:18.25 | kc8qvp | You need to extract it somewhere other than /media/HD-PXU2/ |
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| 08:20.13 | Miika-- | kc8qvp: ok, thanks |
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| 08:43.03 | Miika-- | Any idea how I could unzip range of files at once, e.g. file1.zip to file15.zip when there are more than 15 files, like file95.zip? |
| 08:43.43 | Miika-- | Now I am manually unzipping one by one |
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| 08:44.11 | ChesterX | *.zip |
| 08:44.44 | ChesterX | use the terminal for a command line unzip or select them all manually and right click to unzip them all |
| 08:45.00 | ChesterX | Miika--, ^ |
| 08:46.05 | Miika-- | ChesterX: Don't want to do that since I do not know if they all fit to my hard drive. This is an old computer that has not much hard drive space. So I need to unzip some of them, move back to USB hard drive and then unzip more... |
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| 08:47.31 | ChesterX | in this case (should you have a gui), i d suggest you select a couple at a time and use the second way i mentionned |
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| 08:48.18 | Aktau | Hey guys :). I'm trying to build the chromium package with cowbuilder |
| 08:48.29 | Aktau | However it already gets stuck in the cow builder --create phase |
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| 08:48.36 | Aktau | Basically it tells me it can't authenticate some packages |
| 08:48.49 | Aktau | "there are problems and -y was used without --force-yes" |
| 08:48.56 | Aktau | I tried sudo apt-get update before that |
| 08:48.59 | Aktau | But it still complains |
| 08:49.10 | Aktau | How can I force-yes it? I only have the base repo's... |
| 08:49.21 | babilen | Miika--: You don't have to use a glob that includes /all/ -- http://mywiki.wooledge.org/glob -- something like "file1*.zip" would work, or even "file[12]*.zip" or … |
| 08:49.54 | babilen | Miika--: You can experiment with "echo GLOB_EXPRESSION" to test it beforehand. |
| 08:50.12 | Miika-- | ChesterX: The GUI thing didn't create original directories since the zip has backslash as directory separator... (Windows machine backup) |
| 08:50.19 | Miika-- | babilen: thanks |
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| 09:23.18 | brokencycle | hi! |
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| 09:24.39 | brokencycle | i wanted to install wheezy on a laptop which had the whole disk alloceted to win xp (ntfs) |
| 09:24.55 | brokencycle | is it expected to have to use expert mode to do this? in normal mode, it would not |
| 09:25.08 | brokencycle | let me shrink the ntfs partition |
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| 09:27.46 | brokencycle | also, in graphical mode, help text(s) created windows too tall for the screen, so i |
| 09:27.59 | brokencycle | could not read the lower part of the text, nor see the buttons to click on |
| 09:28.17 | brokencycle | (the installer...) |
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| 09:30.02 | ws2k3 | hi when i try to install php5-fpm it says unable to find package |
| 09:30.18 | ws2k3 | why is this? tutorials on internet say i should be able to apt-get install php5-fpm |
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| 09:30.39 | optraz | hi, when is the iceweasel gonna be upgraded in wheezy? it is kind old |
| 09:31.02 | tremon | when mozilla releases a new lts version |
| 09:31.14 | tremon | err, esr that is |
| 09:31.33 | optraz | okay, i follow the upgrade in dpkg |
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| 09:31.36 | optraz | dont work |
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| 09:32.59 | tremon | !don't work |
| 09:32.59 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
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| 09:34.42 | tremon | I see that Fx17 is a new esr release. I expect that to enter testing after wheezy has been released |
| 09:35.25 | optraz | ok |
| 09:35.27 | optraz | when is that? |
| 09:35.50 | tremon | when it's ready |
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| 09:36.21 | optraz | ok, anyway to upgrade firefox in wheezy? |
| 09:36.34 | optraz | it is so old, version 10.x |
| 09:36.36 | tremon | use mozilla.debian.net |
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| 09:36.41 | optraz | 10.0.2 |
| 09:36.55 | optraz | well, i use that |
| 09:36.59 | optraz | it has dependency error |
| 09:38.25 | tremon | !seen judd |
| 09:38.26 | Pei | judd!~judd@unaffiliated/themill/bot/judd was last seen 9 hr 44 min 28 s ago on #debian |
| 09:38.26 | dpkg | judd <~judd@judd.bot.oftc.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 12h 34m 54s ago, saying: 'Package xul-ext-adblock-plus (web, optional) in squeeze/i386: Advertisement blocking extension for web browsers. Version: 1.2.1-1; Size: 313.7k; Installed: 1480k; Homepage: http://adblockplus.org/'. |
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| 09:39.20 | invariant | !seen evil |
| 09:39.20 | dpkg | i haven't seen 'evil', invariant |
| 09:39.20 | Pei | Last seen: No match |
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| 09:42.56 | tremon | optraz: sadly, packages in experimental are built against unstable. Upgrading single packages is not supported |
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| 09:43.31 | optraz | ok |
| 09:43.40 | optraz | i try to install the iceweasel esr in wheezy |
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| 09:43.53 | optraz | thank you tremon |
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| 09:51.53 | brokencycle | did someone mess with www.debian.org? it suddenly looks like pidgin english |
| 09:52.23 | brokencycle | ping |
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| 10:00.25 | tremon | brokencycle: remember remember the first of april... |
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| 10:01.04 | Aktau | Does anybody know what's a good way to make pbuilder/cowbuilder use all my cores? |
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| 10:01.25 | brokencycle | tremon: uh.. :/ |
| 10:02.08 | tremon | besides, they do say "Users dat speek languagez othr than Lolspeak shud check the internashunal secshun" |
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| 10:13.49 | brokencycle | tremon: yeah, but english is not listed at the bottom... |
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| 10:15.11 | tremon | ah well, it's only one page of pain |
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| 10:26.58 | qdb | if i changed etc network intefaces how to re run it without restarting pc |
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| 10:27.42 | tremon | ifdown/ifup |
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| 10:31.15 | cr0wed | what happend to the language of the debian main page? "Debian iz free operatin sistem (OS) 4 ur computr. An operatin sistem iz teh set ov basic programs an utilitiez dat mak ur computr run. " |
| 10:31.33 | lord_rob | Hi ! Is there a tree like command in tty (tree was the DOS command which displayed the subfolders of a folder in a tree view) |
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| 10:33.10 | koollman | cr0wed: wat do u meen ? |
| 10:33.43 | petn-randall | lord_rob: Have you tried 'tree'? It's available in Debian ... |
| 10:33.51 | brontosaurusrex | cr0wed, looks normal to me |
| 10:34.22 | brontosaurusrex | i mean, what could be wrong with "If ud liek 2 start usin Debian, u can easily obtain copy, an den follow teh installashun instrucshuns 2 install it." |
| 10:34.23 | cr0wed | brontosaurusrex: for me it looks like 1337 language. See my quote. Is that normal? |
| 10:34.33 | brontosaurusrex | yes, thats normal |
| 10:34.51 | brontosaurusrex | for april the 1st at least ... |
| 10:34.57 | lord_rob | petn-randall: maybe but I don't know the package name |
| 10:35.04 | cr0wed | brontosaurusrex: k was there a reason for that change? I remember the page in good englisch |
| 10:35.22 | lord_rob | (tree itself doesn't work) |
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| 10:36.02 | petn-randall | lord_rob: check the man pages for apt-file, it'll help you to find out which package has a cetain content. |
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| 10:36.29 | petn-randall | lord_rob: with that you can find which package contains 'tree', which I don't know by heart. |
| 10:36.58 | cr0wed | lord_rob: I think it is called 'tree' simple as that |
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| 10:37.40 | petn-randall | cr0wed: Sweet! Great April fool's! |
| 10:38.08 | cr0wed | :-D |
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| 10:41.22 | mathe_frage | just a question what should i edit if debian should start an older kernel |
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| 10:41.59 | mathe_frage | /boot/grub/grub.cfg is it the set default="0" value? |
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| 10:42.16 | mathe_frage | after edit run update-grub is this correct? |
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| 10:43.21 | mathe_frage | sorry this is the file: /etc/default/grub |
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| 10:45.10 | petn-randall | mathe_frage: yes. Keep in mind though, it counts from 0, and thus normally every uneven entry boots to the maintenance console. |
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| 10:50.46 | lord_rob | yes every command trying to locate it (apt-cache apt-file) and finally I tried guesswork tree and that was the good one ... |
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| 10:52.35 | mathe_frage | petn-randall for example if the 2.6.9 kernel is entry 3 then it must be default="3" |
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| 10:53.00 | mathe_frage | default="2" i mean |
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| 10:53.56 | Zeeflo | rabbieth, you here? |
| 10:54.08 | rabbieth | yeap :) |
| 10:54.16 | Zeeflo | read your mail yesterday |
| 10:54.23 | Zeeflo | can we go in a private chat? |
| 10:54.38 | rabbieth | sure |
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| 10:56.58 | petn-randall | mathe_frage: Yes. |
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| 11:02.41 | Smoochict | April Fools! |
| 11:02.59 | Smoochict | Debian iz free operatin sistem ;D |
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| 11:05.15 | lord_rob | Is /usr/share/doc only visible by root ? Or my permissions are set badly ... it took me time to find documentation |
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| 11:06.30 | ompaul | lord_rob: ordinary users should be able to zcat docs in there |
| 11:06.56 | lord_rob | so it was me |
| 11:09.05 | lord_rob | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root isn't is correct ? |
| 11:09.31 | lord_rob | s/is/it |
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| 11:09.59 | lord_rob | (for each folder in /usr/share/doc) |
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| 11:13.54 | ompaul | it is |
| 11:14.13 | ompaul | owned by root and readable by everyone |
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| 11:41.22 | brontosaurusrex | how do i get multiline prompt? |
| 11:42.18 | apm1 | brontosaurusrex, iirc vastone told me to edit my bash preferences when i wanted to change my prompt |
| 11:42.24 | petn-randall | brontosaurusrex: you can change the PS1 variable, which defines your prompt. Can't remember where the syntax is defined though, sorry. |
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| 11:43.02 | tremon | I'm sure google can tell all about bash ps1 |
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| 11:43.20 | brontosaurusrex | iam staring at .bashrc, but not sure how to get it multiline, i figured i can change the PS1 thought |
| 11:43.35 | brontosaurusrex | tremon, my google-foo is bad today |
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| 11:45.17 | tremon | https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bash+multiline+ps1 |
| 11:45.40 | Stameni | do digital pens work in debian ? |
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| 11:52.47 | brontosaurusrex | Stameni, like wacom pen? yes they do |
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| 11:53.52 | Dannny | Hi, I have that problem: http://dpaste.com/1042822/ . With -L 5901:127.0.0.1:5901 . Any ideas? |
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| 11:55.01 | Zeeflo | rabbieth, you here? |
| 11:55.41 | rabbieth | Zeeflo: yeah :) |
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| 11:56.46 | Stameni | brontosaurusrex, tnx |
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| 12:13.44 | hedel | hI |
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| 12:15.15 | tachikoma1010101 | hi |
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| 12:16.09 | hedel | from some days go the laptop don't see any wifi network |
| 12:16.14 | hedel | and was working ok |
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| 12:23.39 | Anaki | How it can be that I cannot start .sh programms? |
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| 12:25.38 | petn-randall | Anaki: You can, you're probably just doing it wrong. |
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| 12:26.08 | Anaki | Oh you again! =) |
| 12:26.11 | Anaki | So tell me how |
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| 12:26.20 | petn-randall | Anaki: How are you starting it, and what are it's contents? --> http://paste.debian.net |
| 12:26.44 | john_rambo | Icedove is not playing sound (new mail notifiation) when smplayer is playing a video |
| 12:27.02 | Anaki | its a game |
| 12:27.03 | Anaki | wait |
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| 12:27.12 | Anaki | I have to bring it from other PC on this one |
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| 12:28.23 | petn-randall | john_rambo: You're using ALSA and you sound card only supports one data stream going in. Use pulseaudio. |
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| 12:29.36 | john_rambo | petn-randall, sudo apt-get install pulseaudio ? Is that the package ? |
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| 13:03.05 | Aktau | I'm trying to build something with pbuilder |
| 13:03.09 | Aktau | But at some point I get this: |
| 13:03.19 | Aktau | strip:debian/chromium/usr/lib/chromium/steLkNBE[.text]: No space left on device |
| 13:03.20 | Aktau | strip:debian/chromium/usr/lib/chromium/steLkNBE: No space left on device |
| 13:03.21 | Aktau | dh_strip: strip --remove-section=.comment --remove-section=.note debian/chromium/usr/lib/chromium/chromium returned exit code 1 |
| 13:03.23 | Aktau | make: *** [binary-strip-IMPL/chromium] Error 29 |
| 13:03.35 | Aktau | Though I've checked and I have at least 20GB left on the drive |
| 13:03.38 | Aktau | What gives? |
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| 13:07.24 | optraz | check the correct partition |
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| 13:10.10 | Pinchiukas | Any one can tell me how to check if my USB-connected mobile phone works as a modem? I see that /dev/ttyASM0 appears after connecting it. |
| 13:10.16 | tremon | Aktau: also check df -i |
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| 13:10.37 | Aktau | tremon: I did, I still have loads of inodes free |
| 13:10.49 | Aktau | I have everything in one big ext4 partition |
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| 13:11.13 | Aktau | So unless chromium is generating 20GB in build files and conveniently forgets to remove them before stripping the final executable |
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| 13:11.19 | Aktau | I don't know what's going on |
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| 13:11.36 | Aktau | It's pretty frustrating because the build is like 99% there and then fails on one of the last commands |
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| 13:12.24 | tremon | can you manually create that file in that location? It's also possible that it's using another location (e.g. /tmp) for that |
| 13:12.29 | onebitxajax | hi to all |
| 13:12.46 | tremon | other than that, I have no other suggestions |
| 13:12.55 | onebitxajax | i want to know if someone use xen on debian. I want to know about performance, and hardwae compatibility |
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| 13:13.25 | onebitxajax | is that possible to use xen and desktop witout problem or is better to instal debian server'? |
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| 13:14.00 | onebitxajax | ah before i forget. I am noob :D |
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| 13:15.42 | andrea93 | hotty shit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvijX055h5M |
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| 13:26.55 | me-1 | hi...when should I expect next debian stable release |
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| 13:28.35 | petn-randall | me-1: Christmas |
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| 13:30.15 | petn-randall | Aktau: Maybe you have disk quota enabled? |
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| 13:30.24 | me-1 | petn-randall, really..? |
| 13:30.39 | petn-randall | me-1: Yes, around Christmas. We won't say which year, though. |
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| 13:32.19 | tachikoma1010101 | haa |
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| 13:33.40 | Aktau | petn-randall: it's a pretty bare debian wheezy install |
| 13:33.47 | Aktau | petn-randall: does that have disk quotas? |
| 13:33.50 | Aktau | And how would I check? |
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| 13:36.25 | mathe_frage | petn-randall is there an option howto find the nic name of my debian pc? |
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| 13:45.41 | BeWilled | hello, my debian is constantly crashing, just freezing gnome 3. With no CNTRL+ALT F2 or BACKSPACE response. Any log I could see what produces this error? |
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| 13:51.40 | jhutchins | BeWilled: is it still accessable from the network? |
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| 13:55.20 | BeWilled | jhutchins, maybe, i think so, yes |
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| 13:58.24 | jhutchins | Ok, so it's only the GUI that's locking up then. There might be somethiing in /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 13:58.54 | jhutchins | The problem with freezes/crashes & lockups is the first thing they stop doing is logging. |
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| 14:03.09 | dym | Hi everyone. Im trying to achieve the following: I need to create a PHP script on a server that when called, redirects the source of the call to a different target, but using a specific proxy and preserving the originating source address on a public scale. |
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| 14:04.14 | dym | As in A calls test.php, test.php redirects to target.php using proxy XY. target.php recieves the request with A's IP address. |
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| 14:05.30 | acu | I am trying to install wheezy on a 4 TB HDD and somehow it always leaving 1 MB at the beginning free - what should I do ? |
| 14:05.54 | dym | Sounds like MBR to me |
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| 14:06.33 | reavengrey | SUCH GREAT SPORT |
| 14:06.41 | reavengrey | worng chan |
| 14:07.02 | acu | dym: go on... :) I tried to remove MBR - I tried to reformat it with GUID partition table - the same |
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| 14:07.28 | Bonez | jessie will be wheezy+1, that mean that jessie will be the next testing when wheezy moves to stable? just curious |
| 14:07.28 | dym | Well - you need the MBR obviously |
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| 14:08.01 | stew | Bonez: yes |
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| 14:08.12 | Bonez | kk, thx |
| 14:08.17 | stew | guid partition table would use more room than mbr, but 1mb is tiny |
| 14:08.24 | stew | ! 1.0 / 1024 / 1024 |
| 14:08.25 | dpkg | 0.000000953674 |
| 14:08.45 | tremon | acu: it's the default allocation policy used by microsoft and adapted by parted, it's so that partitions are always correctly aligned |
| 14:09.32 | tremon | acu: if you know better, I'm not sure if the debian installer will let you. My preferred method is to use a livecd to precreate partitions as I want them |
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| 14:10.17 | acu | tremon: OK, so what should I do, I have the 4 TB - I took the hard disk to other system and create the partitions but with the same rezult that son of a gun 1 MB stays there (free) |
| 14:11.09 | tremon | not sure how to do it with parted, I'm sure there's some expert option to set the alignment. I always use gdisk |
| 14:11.31 | petn-randall | Aktau: quota is the package and program name. |
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| 14:12.47 | tremon | however, unless your system is fully uefi-compatible, you need a bios boot partition anyway, see if you can leave your current partitioning and just create the bbp in the empty space (1mb is more than enough) |
| 14:13.09 | petn-randall | acu: Why don't you want to leave 1 MB free? It's best practice. |
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| 14:14.38 | tremon | best practice is debatable. I prefer to say that it's common practice |
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| 14:15.28 | ompaul | never say best practice, that means there is no possible improvement, good / common are the better terms |
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| 14:15.57 | stew | its best practice to not use such a term |
| 14:16.07 | ompaul | stew: spot on |
| 14:16.18 | txomon | hi, how can I install a package, whose dependencies aren't met (nor can be met), and let it be installed, without giving me problems because it is not configured? |
| 14:17.36 | stew | txomon: you can't, you have to solve the dependencies, perhaps by creating dummy packages which do (see /msg dpkg equivs), or by creating your own version of the package with differnt dependencies. but why would you want a broken package? |
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| 14:18.30 | txomon | stew, I am installing steam on debian, and it has a newer libc6 dependency, so I will get into trouble if I update it |
| 14:18.38 | stew | txomon: yes |
| 14:19.02 | stew | txomon: you would want to get the source for steam and recompile the package against your system's libc6 |
| 14:19.09 | acu | petn-randall: it does not matter to me, the grub does not like it - it seem |
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| 14:20.06 | txomon | stew, not too sure if that is possible, the truth is that I have a folder with libc-2.15, which meets the dependency, installed |
| 14:20.21 | txomon | and steam works with it |
| 14:20.43 | acu | In other words, I am fine with the 1 MB at the beginning of the HDD - somehow GRUB does not recognize the booting partition /boot |
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| 14:23.23 | Anaki | So here I am again. petn-randall are you still there? |
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| 14:24.54 | Anaki | So I want to start a .unix file |
| 14:24.55 | Anaki | http://paste.debian.net/246399/ |
| 14:25.28 | Anaki | I can choose between start and chow as text. But if I click start, nothin happen |
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| 14:26.35 | Anaki | petn-randall, help me pls :( |
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| 14:28.08 | stew | txomon: ah, ok if you've already installed libc-2.15, you've probably already screwed up your install |
| 14:29.04 | txomon | stew, no, I installed that version in another folder |
| 14:29.26 | stew | txomon: really the right thing to do is to recompile the thing needing a different libc |
| 14:29.51 | stew | mixing different libc versions is not something you should expect to work |
| 14:30.01 | txomon | stew, its closed source :S |
| 14:30.04 | tremon | txomon: then you should install your client in that same folder |
| 14:30.22 | txomon | tremon, that is what I did |
| 14:30.25 | stew | oh |
| 14:31.02 | txomon | stew I am talking about valve's steam platform, the video game one |
| 14:31.05 | tremon | txomon: I'm slightly confused, you asked how to install, but you have already installed it? |
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| 14:31.48 | stew | txomon: sorry I'll stay out of this |
| 14:32.38 | tremon | sensible people will tell you to use a chroot instead of simply a prefix, but there's no reason it shouldn't work |
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| 14:33.29 | txomon | tremon, I modified the calling script to meet libc requirements from another folder, so I can now update the packages, but I run into problems due to their dependencies |
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| 14:33.45 | tremon | you shouldn't use the packages at all |
| 14:34.25 | txomon | tremon, that is true... but its the only way I know to get updates without having to re-install on hand the binaries |
| 14:34.30 | tremon | you already manually installed a libc in a non-standard location, trying to make apt/dpkg aware of that non-standard won't work |
| 14:35.00 | txomon | tremon, I just need dpkg to ignore the package and its dependencies, I just want dpkg to deploy the binaries |
| 14:35.02 | tremon | well, you can't have both. You cannot subvert the packaging system and still expect updates to work |
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| 14:37.31 | txomon | tremon, ok, then I will deploy binaries with an script, and spend today to know more about how .deb are organised. Actually reading debian packaging guide |
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| 14:37.51 | tremon | txomon: btw, you can make dpkg ignore dependencies with --force-deps, but that will most definitely break the rest of your system |
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| 14:38.23 | sparadokos | can you use mousepad or something like it "gui type" and open a file on another machine, mod change save it on that system you are reading it from? |
| 14:38.26 | tremon | (i.e. no updates will be applied -at all- until you correct all dependency problems) |
| 14:39.14 | txomon | tremon, but, with --force-deps, I wouldn't get updates for that .deb package, would I? |
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| 14:39.42 | tremon | nor for any other package |
| 14:39.45 | dutchfish | tremon, have you had a peak in https://gist.github.com/grindars/4231563 (but you are virtually on your own with this) i am running this on a test setup with quiet some nasty problems, it works, but it can break anytime. |
| 14:40.06 | tremon | dutchfish: it's not my system I'm trying to break ;) |
| 14:40.17 | dutchfish | ouch, gl with that |
| 14:40.33 | tremon | txomon: see dutchfish' link |
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| 14:40.58 | nerdistmonk | so why is debian unstable so far behind? |
| 14:41.12 | dutchfish | !freeze |
| 14:41.12 | dpkg | The 'freeze' is when large changes to testing version of Debian are stopped for few months. During this period, no new package uploads are made except to fix critical bugs or to provide documentation updates. During the freeze, bugs are squashed to 'stabilize' the release to make the new 'stable'. Wheezy was frozen on June 30, 2012. Also ask me about <slushy>. |
| 14:41.32 | nerdistmonk | unstable isnt wheezy..... |
| 14:41.34 | nerdistmonk | unstable is sid |
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| 14:41.40 | dutchfish | right |
| 14:41.44 | nerdistmonk | so they freeze unstable and testing....wow...... |
| 14:42.01 | dutchfish | i hoped it was in that factoid, that sid also is slow just before a release |
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| 14:42.10 | tremon | nerdistmonk: unstable isn't a release on its own, it's a delay queue for testing |
| 14:42.20 | tremon | !slushy |
| 14:42.21 | dpkg | When a <testing> release becomes frozen, <unstable> tends to partially freeze as well. This is because developers are reluctant to upload radically new software to unstable, in case the frozen software in testing needs minor updates and to fix release critical bugs which keep testing from becoming <stable>. |
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| 14:42.25 | tremon | dutchfish: it is |
| 14:42.28 | nerdistmonk | guess im stuck on fedora then (yuck) |
| 14:42.32 | Bonez | There a gui package manager that allows you to browse thru the debtags? something like synaptic? |
| 14:42.36 | dutchfish | tremon, ah, thanks |
| 14:43.38 | tremon | Bonez: what's wrong with synaptic? |
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| 14:45.14 | somiaj | Bonez: do you not like the curses gui of aptitude? |
| 14:45.28 | Bonez | tremon, nothing really, just trying to see what value it brings. not much if nothing supports imo |
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| 14:46.41 | nerdistmonk | i wished debian would have a rolling release distro (a real one), keep stable around for those who need it. |
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| 14:47.05 | eth0ghost | LMDE nerdistmonk =) |
| 14:47.12 | dutchfish | nerdistmonk, i hope not, i am perfectly happy with testing/sid |
| 14:47.25 | nerdistmonk | lmde = debian sid....out of date |
| 14:47.33 | eth0ghost | is being sarcastic. |
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| 14:48.17 | Anaki | http://paste.debian.net/246399/ |
| 14:48.23 | Anaki | I can not start that file |
| 14:48.26 | dutchfish | there is a darn good reason, why testing and sid work as they do now, if you really understand the why's, you apreciate it better. |
| 14:48.28 | Anaki | sauerbraten.unix |
| 14:48.29 | Anaki | why? |
| 14:48.38 | eth0ghost | dutchfish: Yeah I love sid. |
| 14:48.51 | dutchfish | !debianlove |
| 14:48.51 | dpkg | debianlove is probably the more I gain knowledge about Linux, the more I like Debian. Ask me about <why debian> too. For more information, see http://wiki.debian.org/ |
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| 14:49.07 | eth0ghost | Even when stuff breaks, it is fixed really quick. |
| 14:49.15 | dutchfish | nods |
| 14:49.19 | nerdistmonk | it is on fedora too |
| 14:49.23 | nerdistmonk | i dont see your reasoning |
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| 14:49.33 | eth0ghost | My reasoning for what? |
| 14:49.35 | nerdistmonk | i havent had a break once yet on fedora and i run the test update repo |
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| 14:49.53 | tremon | Bonez: I tend to prefer browsing package lists with the command line (aptitude, apt-cache). There was adept for kde, don't know how mature it is. Synaptic is the only gui frontend for apt that I know of |
| 14:49.55 | nerdistmonk | i just cant stand fedora's "force this on their users" mentality |
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| 14:51.24 | tremon | nerdistmonk: so, which versions of packages do you need that are not yet in wheezy? If it's a few, you can always use uupdate |
| 14:51.44 | Bonez | tremon, was only curious, thought maybe i was missing something |
| 14:51.53 | MO_Handes | when I copy a file into my Windows NTFS partition from debian and then restart to Windows the file disappears. when I restart back to debian it disappears too. it's only there during current session and after restart disappears. what is the problem and how to solve it? |
| 14:52.04 | nerdistmonk | ive tried this already, it just ends up being a big mess, forget it |
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| 14:52.17 | eth0ghost | Lol. |
| 14:52.27 | somiaj | MO_Handes: are you using the ntfs-3g driver bassed on fues? |
| 14:52.30 | tremon | MO_Handes: don't restart into windows? |
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| 14:53.00 | MO_Handes | somiaj, I don't have a idea what it is? |
| 14:53.04 | somiaj | I almost wonder if it is a 'sync' issue, not sure if running that a few times would matter since you are rebooting |
| 14:53.37 | somiaj | MO_Handes: so what ntfs driver are you using for the partition? Unless you install the ntfs-3g package you may be using the inline kernel driver which didn't have full write support yet (I thought) |
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| 14:54.48 | MO_Handes | somiaj, ntfs-3g is installed on my system but I didn't manually install it, it must have been in Wheezy automatically installed packages by default. |
| 14:56.11 | somiaj | MO_Handes: well my first debug suggestion is after you copy a file to the partition. umount the partition, then mount it again, see if the file is still there |
| 14:57.20 | MO_Handes | somiaj, it is |
| 14:57.47 | somiaj | MO_Handes: where are you copying this file? Sounds like windows is deleteing it at boot up for some reason. |
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| 14:58.52 | MO_Handes | tried both root (C:) and home folder (c:/users/blah/desktop) |
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| 15:00.26 | tachikoma1010101 | would be funny if it was just mounting ro this whole time |
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| 15:01.38 | gnat_x | hey folks. is n=wheezy-backports the correct thing to put in an apt preferences file? |
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| 15:02.12 | MO_Handes | sorry dc |
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| 15:03.07 | tremon | gnat_x: apt-cache policy will tell you. My guess is that you need l=wheezy-backports, but I can't check here |
| 15:03.31 | tremon | erm... no n= is probably correct |
| 15:03.35 | txomon | anyone knows how to disable beep on shutdown/reboot? I have been googling, and there are several ways, but I can't see them with good eyes (some disable the kernel module) |
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| 15:05.37 | dutchfish | txomon, blacklist pcspkr |
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| 15:05.49 | txomon | dutchfish, that is the preferred method!? |
| 15:06.13 | dutchfish | txomon, i dunno, but thats how i do it, delve into debian wiki blacklisting |
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| 15:06.58 | babilen | gnat_x: You almost never have to pin backports. What are you trying to achieve? |
| 15:08.18 | dutchfish | txomon, http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModuleBlacklisting |
| 15:08.53 | txomon | dutchfish, yeah, I created a file beep-blacklist.conf in modprobe.d |
| 15:09.17 | txomon | thank you! |
| 15:09.18 | txomon | bb! |
| 15:09.23 | gnat_x | babilen: just trying to make sure my preferences don't pull in backports. |
| 15:09.25 | dutchfish | yw |
| 15:09.45 | Anaki | Could pls someone help me to start a .unix file? |
| 15:10.20 | gnat_x | babilen: once bitten, twice shy. i messed up my a= and n= last year, and had to downgrade my laptop from sid back to wheezy; which while possible is not fun! |
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| 15:11.45 | dimitry7 | hi guys, how can I make an ext3 filesystem skip filesystem check? ( it checks periodically after 27 days - more or less ) but I want it not to do it |
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| 15:11.53 | Lars_G | Has /etc/environment been deprecated? |
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| 15:12.32 | MO_Handes | my new system gets so hot and the fans work hardly with Wheezy, any debug, diag suggestions? |
| 15:12.39 | tremon | dimitry7: man tune2fs |
| 15:12.42 | stew | dimitry7: you can change the frequency with tune2fs, although it would not be a good idea, you can disable the boot time check by modifying /etc/fstab |
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| 15:13.28 | Stameni | whats an official debian irc server ? |
| 15:13.35 | Stameni | irc.debian.org ? |
| 15:13.49 | Stameni | when i type that "host not found" |
| 15:14.08 | stew | irc.debian.org works, it points to oftc |
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| 15:15.06 | Stameni | tnx it works now, maby i mispelled it |
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| 15:16.08 | dimitry7 | stew, ok I got you. correct me if im wrong: the last two digits of ext3 entry in fstab must be: 0 0 |
| 15:16.14 | dimitry7 | is it right? |
| 15:16.16 | stew | dimitry7: that is wrong |
| 15:16.39 | dimitry7 | stew, okay, do you know how can I modify it ? |
| 15:16.51 | stew | dimitry7: hold on, what do you mean by "must be"? |
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| 15:17.22 | dimitry7 | if <dump> and <pass> columns must be in '0', both.. |
| 15:17.40 | stew | dimitry7: the last one is the only one that has to do with filesystem checks |
| 15:17.51 | stew | dimitry7: 0 would mean not to check it ever |
| 15:18.05 | dimitry7 | stew, yes, exactly, so it has to be '0' not to check it ever |
| 15:18.07 | dimitry7 | perfect! |
| 15:18.15 | dimitry7 | stew, thank you!! |
| 15:18.31 | stew | dimitry7: when is it going to be checked then? manually only? by some other os? |
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| 15:18.54 | dimitry7 | stew, manually, yeah, what would you suggest? |
| 15:19.15 | stew | dimitry7: i suggest making it 2 instead of 0 |
| 15:19.22 | dimitry7 | why? |
| 15:19.22 | stew | so that it is checked during boot |
| 15:19.34 | petn-randall | acu: GPT boots differently than from MBR, how to set it up properly is in the docs. |
| 15:19.36 | stew | dimitry7: because I don't believe that you are going to remember to manually check it |
| 15:19.42 | dimitry7 | stew, that's what I don't what. to be checked at boot time |
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| 15:19.48 | stew | dimitry7: why not? |
| 15:20.31 | dimitry7 | stew, because it is a HD of several TeraBytes... it is an importatn server and it lasts almost two hours to finish the checking |
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| 15:20.57 | tremon | apparently uptime is more important than your data? |
| 15:21.01 | petn-randall | stew: Because you will forget at some point, and then you'll have a big mess. |
| 15:21.21 | tremon | btw, the kernel will log a warning if mounting a filesystem that's past its checkfs date |
| 15:21.31 | petn-randall | stew: If you want to make sure it just checks on a certain point in time, use the tune2fs -c and -i parameters. |
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| 15:21.53 | stew | dimitry7: so periodically, if someone remembers. they are going to login to that machine, stop all the processes using that volume, run the fsk by hand, wait for the fsck to finish, remount the partition, and restart processes? |
| 15:22.08 | stew | petn-randall: (I know this stuff, of course :) ) |
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| 15:22.50 | zykotick9 | petn-randall: are you confusing GPT with UFI? I use GPT partitions (primarily on my 3TB drive) and it's exactly the same as MSDOS partitions for booting? I don't have any UFI devices, so i have no comment there. |
| 15:22.52 | dimitry7 | stew, how can i make debian skip fast boot? |
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| 15:22.52 | petn-randall | stew: If you know, you know there's no reason to deactivate it. It's better to fail-safe than fail-deadly. |
| 15:23.10 | stew | petn-randall: i'm trying to encourage him not to deactivate it |
| 15:23.14 | petn-randall | zykotick9: AFAIR you have to make a partition as boot partition if you have GPT + BIOS. |
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| 15:23.33 | petn-randall | zykotick9: Having GPT + UEFI is similar, but still different in the details. |
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| 15:23.46 | stew | dimitry7: I don't know what fast boot is |
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| 15:24.34 | zykotick9 | petn-randall: GPT replaces MSDOS partition types, you don't need any boot partition (for BIOS systems anyway) |
| 15:26.16 | dimitry7 | stew, for your last question... yes. They would have to do all that by hand :-S |
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| 15:27.01 | tremon | zykotick9: that's not true, at least for grub. with mbr, grub's stage1 is stored in the empty space of the first cylinder (62 sectors). That space isn't there with gpt, so you need a small (128kB) partition for grub's stage1 |
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| 15:28.00 | stew | dimitry7: is there a periodic time when you guys can afford downtime? like, for example, the middle of the night on weekends or something? |
| 15:28.17 | zykotick9 | tremon: hummm, i didn't notice that. petn-randall sorry, I guess I'm the one who is mistaken. |
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| 15:28.34 | dimitry7 | stew, I think they plan to do it on sundays. I am new at this work, I don't know much of the stuff here. |
| 15:28.37 | stew | dimitry7: you can do something like schedule saturday night at midnight for downtime and schedule to do a touch /forcefsck && reboot |
| 15:28.43 | dimitry7 | steup, but it is weird |
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| 15:29.39 | dimitry7 | stew, yep. they want to do that |
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| 15:29.44 | dimitry7 | really weird |
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| 15:30.29 | dimitry7 | stew, meanwhile... 5000 employees don't have e-mail service now :-) |
| 15:30.50 | dimitry7 | stew, so funny don't you think so? |
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| 15:31.32 | tremon | dimitry7: btw, upgrading to ext4 will much reduce fsck time |
| 15:31.42 | stew | dimitry7: if this is a service where you can't afford downtime, you can't make it rely on a single machine being up |
| 15:31.56 | dimitry7 | tremo, reduce? so it will make it more often? :-O |
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| 15:32.10 | dimitry7 | stew, tell that to my boss, hehe |
| 15:32.14 | m0ksha | what is the proper way to sync permissions across linux machines? my username has different "codes" on each. help pls! thanks |
| 15:32.19 | dimitry7 | * say |
| 15:32.20 | tremon | doesn't remember mentioning fsck frequency |
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| 15:32.45 | stew | dimitry7: that's your job |
| 15:33.11 | dimitry7 | stew, yes, but I don't take those decisions |
| 15:33.20 | tremon | m0ksha: authentication or authorization? if you don't have centralized user id's, that would be step 0 |
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| 15:34.06 | m0ksha | tremon i'm not sure what the difference is, currently having trouble accessing/writing to an nfs share |
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| 15:34.26 | m0ksha | I dont think I have centralized user id's |
| 15:35.02 | dimitry7 | stew, if you ask me I will put Fault Tolerance using VMware |
| 15:35.09 | zykotick9 | m0ksha: usernames aren't "really" used for permission, the userids are. type "id" in terminals, if uid is same on all machines, permissions across nfs will work. |
| 15:35.25 | m0ksha | zykotick9, they're not the same |
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| 15:35.45 | zykotick9 | m0ksha: so as far as the systems are concerned, they're different users. |
| 15:35.48 | tremon | m0ksha: you can start by reading up on nfs id mapping, after reading a few things I'm pretty sure you'll prefer to invest time in setting up a centralized authentication system |
| 15:36.04 | m0ksha | zykotick9, so i tried changing the passwd file to make them the same but that started to cause other problems with preexisting files |
| 15:36.11 | m0ksha | as well as with ssh |
| 15:36.13 | Lars_G | Has /etc/environment been deprecated? some comments in my cron's init.d plus the fact I have an empty /etc/environment make me suspicious |
| 15:36.26 | zykotick9 | m0ksha: i'm not surprised. |
| 15:36.42 | m0ksha | zykotick9, so what's the best thing to do to fix this? |
| 15:36.48 | Phil | I tried to install some packages from Wheezy to little avail however I now can't do anything with apt as it says "The following packages have unmet dependencies". How can I cancel the installs it's trying to do? |
| 15:37.16 | zykotick9 | m0ksha: check out tremon's mapping suggestion (not something i've used). |
| 15:37.18 | m0ksha | zykotick9, is there a way to change the userid of a username system wide? |
| 15:37.36 | tremon | Lars_G: /etc/environment isn't deprecated, but cron doesn't use it iirc. At least it overrides any PATH you may have set there |
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| 15:38.08 | zykotick9 | m0ksha: it's best to create the users with the same id, for existing users - I'm not sure how you should proceed. best of luck. |
| 15:38.11 | dimitry7 | stew, tune2fs was the solution |
| 15:38.15 | tremon | m0ksha: you can, by editing /etc/passwd and performing a system-wide chown |
| 15:38.28 | tremon | don't do this while users are logged in |
| 15:38.43 | m0ksha | zykotick9, tremon, thanks looks like i can do this with usermod |
| 15:39.39 | tremon | cool, that's new |
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| 15:42.19 | m0ksha | in case interested usermod -u newid login works great!, same for groupmod |
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| 15:46.24 | MO_Handes | Windows 8 deletes all the files I copy from debian to it's ntfs partition after boot, any suggestion? |
| 15:46.54 | Zeeflo | yes |
| 15:47.00 | Zeeflo | dont use windows8 |
| 15:47.26 | Zeeflo | it obviously dont want to be used by you ;) |
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| 15:50.47 | MO_Handes | thanks Zeeflo |
| 15:51.00 | Zeeflo | YW |
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| 16:08.05 | mansgrf | http://www.reddit.com/r/xWETPUSSYx/comments/1bfdqt/experienced_girl_does_naked_yoga/ |
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| 16:12.29 | eth0ghost | What is the site people use to record a google search? ie...the links people give to those who do not google before asking simple questions. |
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| 16:14.08 | zykotick9 | eth0ghost: do you mean http://lmgtfy.com/ please don't use that crap here |
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| 16:23.14 | petn-randall | zykotick9: Yeah, the whole GPT/MBR, BIOS/UEFI situation is quite confusing. In total that makes 4 different ways of installing grub. And to complicate things, "upgrading" from BIOS to UEFI booting has its caveats, too. |
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| 16:27.53 | queso | Is there a wheezy package for modsecurity that works with nginx so I don't have to compile from source? http://www.modsecurity.org/projects/modsecurity/nginx/ |
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| 16:32.23 | bluethundr | hey guys.. I'm trying to install debian wheezy onto an HP Pavillion 22bw.. I've disabled the security settings in the bios to allow me to install 'an alternative' operating system, and I get to the boot screen. but when I select command line or graphical install the I wait a moment and the screen go blank.. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.. has anyone ever heard of this problem? |
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| 16:41.13 | format_c | I use audacious in stable. Don't know since when but the playlists show only a total of 7 songs regardless how many items the list has. When played in random mode it starts always at the end.(last song) |
| 16:41.24 | format_c | Has some else encountered similar issues with audacious? |
| 16:41.36 | petn-randall | bluethundr: could be a lot of things. What desktop/laptop are you installing onto? |
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| 16:42.00 | somiaj | format_c: if someone else has encountered that issue it should hopefully on the BTS, that would be my first place to check for known issues and possible slutions |
| 16:42.26 | somiaj | format_c: you can also check audacious bug reports, though might have to go back a bit because of the age of the stable packages |
| 16:42.37 | bluethundr | petn-randall: It's an HP Pavilion 22bw desktop |
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| 16:43.39 | format_c | somiaj, done already but haven't found a match there |
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| 16:44.25 | somiaj | format_c: another common thing to do is an error in your config file, check $HOME/.audacious (or what ever they use for a config file/directory). Move it/back it up and start again from scratch. See if you have the same issues |
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| 16:44.48 | format_c | good tip. I'll try this next |
| 16:44.49 | format_c | thanks |
| 16:44.55 | petn-randall | bluethundr: google searches for HP Pavilion 22bw only give me LCDs. |
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| 16:46.18 | petn-randall | bluethundr: If your PC supports UEFI, turn that on, as well as deactivating 'secure boot'. |
| 16:46.23 | bluethundr | yeah that's unfortunate... so far it's behaving this way on two different machines |
| 16:46.48 | petn-randall | bluethundr: But only if your other OS has been installed with UEFI. |
| 16:46.58 | bluethundr | UEFI? cool. good sugggestion. I'll give that a try. I've already turned off secure boot |
| 16:47.04 | petn-randall | bluethundr: How is the LCD connected? What graphic card do you have? |
| 16:47.05 | bluethundr | ah ok |
| 16:47.23 | mms_ | ok I have kind of non-debian question but thought if some one can answer. If I have squid can it link / cache peer to microsoft forefront tmg ? I mean can squid proxy use non-squid proxy as parent ? |
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| 16:48.25 | bluethundr | the LCD is connected to a graphic card.. don't know what kind of graphic card these machines have unfortunately. I would be nice to find that out tho. let me see if I can |
| 16:49.31 | acu_ | I would like to create a snapshot using system-config-lvm, but I get a message <the dm-snapshot module might not be loaded or kernel does not support it. How can I find out if the module is loaded?> |
| 16:49.37 | petn-randall | bluethundr: Other thing you can try is hit escape when the screen turns black. It might drop to the console which will show you some output. |
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| 16:49.58 | bluethundr | good suggestion thank you |
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| 16:52.13 | petn-randall | bluethundr: Though I can give you more specific answers if you can find out what graphics card it is, and how it's connected to the LCD (VGA, DVI, HMDI, ...) |
| 16:52.34 | cdave | i planning to build my own debian package, reading this doc ( http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-pkg_basics.en.html ) i need to have "Source packages, which consist of a .dsc file describing the source package" |
| 16:52.57 | cdave | where do i get that from ? ( I'm planning to build Postgresql package ) |
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| 16:55.24 | petn-randall | cdave: PostgreSQL has been already been covered, postgresql.org has it's own Debian repositories. |
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| 16:56.32 | cdave | thats right petn-randall, (http://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/debian/ ) but I need one for lenny |
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| 16:58.32 | petn-randall | cdave: However, if you're interested in building packages, your pull them with apt-get source $foo, then do a 'dpkg-buildpackage -b' in the unpacked files. |
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| 16:58.48 | petn-randall | cdave: lenny has been dead for quite a while now, I strongly recommend to upgrade. |
| 16:59.08 | petn-randall | cdave: I'm not sure if current postgres will even build on lenny. |
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| 17:00.18 | cdave | apt-get source $foo, where $foo is name of the package ? |
| 17:00.55 | petn-randall | cdave: correct. |
| 17:01.26 | petn-randall | cdave: You can save all this, though, if you upgrade to squeeze. Is there a reason not to do that? |
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| 17:01.56 | cdave | i would really like too, but not something i can do asap |
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| 17:02.32 | cdave | but if postgres will not build, i don't have any more choice |
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| 17:03.51 | petn-randall | cdave: Personally I'd skip that and go straight to upgrading. Lenny has already accumulated over a year of security bugs, it's time to move on. :) |
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| 17:04.08 | cdave | i agree |
| 17:04.40 | hid3 | Greetings everyone. We host one of the Spamhaus DNS servers running Debian Squeeze. It's being attacked now by crappy DNS requests. Nothing serious, just 10 Gigabis/s traffic. Any ideas how to distinguish normal DNS requests vs crappy ones? :) |
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| 17:05.32 | schwatvogel | use optimized dns server deamon |
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| 17:05.49 | petn-randall | schwatvogel: What are you talking about? |
| 17:06.00 | petn-randall | hid3: I strongly depends on what kind of attacks they are. |
| 17:06.18 | petn-randall | s/I/It/ |
| 17:06.21 | hid3 | well, the 'bad' requests have some strange DNS flags |
| 17:06.33 | schwatvogel | ah ok level to low, as hoster you can´t do much about the requests |
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| 17:06.42 | hid3 | just a second, I'll give an example |
| 17:06.56 | Stameni | ok, sometimes while i use icewheasel a notification comes out ( gnom notify ) and ask me if i want to chat with an expert, not just on one page. What is that ? |
| 17:07.09 | petn-randall | hid3: paste it to http://paste.debian.net |
| 17:07.44 | petn-randall | hid3: Though I've head Spamhaus got hit by amplification attacks from open DNS servers. |
| 17:08.05 | hid3 | here ya go: http://paste.debian.net/246436/ |
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| 17:08.41 | hid3 | not sure. The first attack was against their mail/web servers, now againsta tha database/DNS servers |
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| 17:09.57 | Bernd187 | hi, could anyone help me to register url-handle like "telnet://127.0.0.1:1123" to gnome env ? |
| 17:10.00 | hid3 | Yep, I checked a few DNS servers which are in the paste and they reply to my requests |
| 17:10.06 | petn-randall | hid3: If they all come from a small list of IP addresses, it's probably easier to just blacklist them as far upstream as possible. |
| 17:10.11 | hid3 | looks like they indeed are open DNS'es |
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| 17:10.38 | tremon | hid3: there's a public list of open dns resolvers, have your isp block them (some 2 million addresses iirc) |
| 17:10.38 | petn-randall | hid3: Talk to you provider if they can filter the traffic further up. |
| 17:10.39 | hid3 | well.. >10Gbps traffic. Can it be a small list of IPs? :) |
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| 17:11.04 | hid3 | It's holiday today here. Will have a conversation tomorrow, thanks! |
| 17:11.09 | hid3 | Didn't think about it |
| 17:11.44 | hid3 | Strange there are tons of lazy DNS admins running open DNS resolvers nowadays... |
| 17:11.51 | petn-randall | hid3: Sure, my DC offers 1Gbit/s connections for servers. So you only need 10 to hit that limit ... |
| 17:12.02 | schwatvogel | lol? your upstream provider has holidays ? |
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| 17:12.34 | petn-randall | hid3: Yeah, it's a shame. Only lazy mail server admins top this off. |
| 17:12.42 | schwatvogel | petn-randall: not sure if that works most provider overcommit their upstream |
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| 17:12.53 | schwatvogel | quite often |
| 17:13.23 | hid3 | I have a holiday :) |
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| 17:13.43 | petn-randall | hid3: Me too, but my DC has 24/7 support. |
| 17:13.46 | hid3 | Besides, the internet connection still works.. Why bother then? :D |
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| 17:15.34 | hid3 | Other sources say there are not 2 million open DNS reslvers but 27 million! |
| 17:15.51 | tremon | hmm, well other sources probably have better memory than I |
| 17:16.00 | samuel_ | hello guys |
| 17:16.29 | schwatvogel | hmm, well if i would see 10Gbit DNS Traffic in my 24/7... i would be worried |
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| 17:16.50 | samuel | anyone seeing Could not resolve ftp.debian.org constantly? |
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| 17:17.12 | hid3 | Debian holds up very well. Load averages are less than 1.00, SSH does not work but the box is usable |
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| 17:17.25 | hid3 | rbldnsd is using ~80% of CPU power |
| 17:17.33 | hid3 | no strange messages in syslog, dmesg, etc :) |
| 17:17.54 | schwatvogel | hid3: do you get your traffic for free? dont you host other apps, wich suffer? |
| 17:17.54 | hid3 | I doubt we can have a better bench test for Debian and the kernel as this |
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| 17:18.11 | schwatvogel | no bottlenecks at routerlevel? |
| 17:18.35 | petn-randall | hid3: Well, the machine won't break, but they're effectively DoSing you, which sucks. |
| 17:18.40 | hid3 | well, there is spare traffic available, so other services are not affected yet, but again, it's a holiday so I dunno what will happen when the regular daily shift will begin |
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| 17:18.51 | hid3 | indeed, sucks |
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| 17:19.06 | hid3 | and routers seem to cope (yet) |
| 17:19.38 | schwatvogel | well, at least you tested your hardware |
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| 17:19.53 | jelly-home | hid3: receiving and sending udp isn't rocket science |
| 17:19.54 | petn-randall | hid3: I'd hand the tcpdumps to your hoster, and they'll probably take care of the rest. |
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| 17:20.49 | acu | In Virtual Manager (with KVM) there is an option File Storage - one of the choice there is logical:LVM group - strangely enough if I go through that and point to a VG the machithe storages shows - but I have no ideea what the machine is stored as .img .qcow ? any hints |
| 17:20.53 | hid3 | Indeed I will |
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| 17:22.29 | levi501d | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:22.52 | levi501d | just wondering if anyone has actually done this, and if so, how? |
| 17:23.31 | rudi_s | levi501d: You could try torsocks. It's designed for Tor, but should work fine with any SOCKS proxy. |
| 17:23.39 | hid3 | Just one more question: does bind, as the package in Debian by default come with a configuration of open DNS resolver or no? |
| 17:23.49 | levi501d | thanks rudi_s i'll check that out |
| 17:23.52 | tremon | acu: neither, .img and .qcow are file formats. The lvm storage stores the data using lvm primitives |
| 17:24.13 | rudi_s | levi501d: Just use -D 9050 to use the port which is expected by torsocks. Please tell me if it worked. |
| 17:24.30 | levi501d | i mean i can surf through the vpn through my ssh proxy using socks on firefox, but as far as making a git clone request? |
| 17:24.44 | levi501d | how would i tell git to clone through the ssh tunnel? |
| 17:24.52 | rudi_s | levi501d: torsocks git clone ... |
| 17:24.57 | levi501d | ohhhh |
| 17:25.01 | levi501d | right |
| 17:25.06 | rudi_s | After you've run ssh -D 9050 ... |
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| 17:25.14 | levi501d | kk i'll try that, i've actually got torsocks running for Tor :D |
| 17:25.26 | levi501d | so i'll need to go modify that to point at my other tunnel |
| 17:25.29 | rabbieth | can anyone help with debian 6 and hardware raid? raid1 is in readonly mode and i can't find how to turn it to rw-mode |
| 17:25.37 | rudi_s | levi501d: In that case, you need a config file to tell torsocks not use Tor. Check the man page. |
| 17:25.42 | levi501d | yeah i have the tunnel up so i'll give that a go and let you know if it works |
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| 17:25.52 | levi501d | roger that |
| 17:26.05 | toad_ | how do i tell curl to ignore the system CA files and *only* use the --cafile i provide? |
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| 17:27.45 | tremon | toad_: according to the man page, curl only knows about --cacert and --capath, not --cafile |
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| 17:28.33 | toad_ | doh |
| 17:28.36 | toad_ | yeah --cafile |
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| 17:28.49 | toad_ | afaics it will use the path as well if i pass --cafile ? |
| 17:28.59 | toad_ | i need to verify that the cafile we are providing is valid and sufficient |
| 17:29.05 | tremon | not sure, try --capath . |
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| 17:33.12 | X-Sleepy-X | Hi! I have an Asus N53SM-s1087v laptop which has both Intel 3000 and Nvidia 630 graphics. When I have a fresh installation of Debian it uses the Nvidia card unless I tell it to boot with the Intel card. Is it possible to have it switch between those cards live? |
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| 17:34.32 | LinuxNob | hello can someone help me I need help |
| 17:34.56 | LinuxNob | well i need an opinion advise |
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| 17:35.31 | Bernd187 | Could anyone help me to register url-handle like "telnet://127.0.0.1:1123" to gnome env ? So I could just click the link to open session like mailto: works |
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| 17:37.19 | X-Sleepy-X | Also I have another PC using Nvidia 210 and a USB to DVI card in order to have three displays. With the kernel 3.2 (I think) Debian will active the USB display but disable the displays using Nvidia. Anyone have an idea on how to get all three displays working? |
| 17:37.31 | LinuxNob | I what's the best linux rolling release I been wanting to put one on my usb or external hard drive and I been told Fuduntu is solid or any Debian Testing and/or Unstable or Manjaro |
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| 17:38.27 | LinuxNob | Any advice for a new linux user like me? |
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| 17:40.05 | babilen | LinuxNob: testing is fine, but I'd use wheezy now and then switch to jessie (next testing) once the crazyness after the release is over |
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| 17:48.53 | mniip | is there any generic guide to install openGL on a debian available? |
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| 17:49.37 | mniip | all i've tried don't seem to work |
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| 17:50.02 | tremon | the "generic guide" is apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx |
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| 17:50.50 | mniip | too bad |
| 17:50.52 | mniip | libgl1-mesa-glx is already the newest version. |
| 17:51.08 | roothorick | trying to compile my own kernel based on the official config... I'm running 2.6.32-5, copy in the config from 2.6.32-5, but make oldconfig acts like the config is missing a lot of options |
| 17:51.12 | roothorick | is that normal? |
| 17:51.37 | tremon | well, what kernel version are you trying to compile? |
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| 17:51.42 | roothorick | 2.6.32 |
| 17:51.51 | tremon | no, then it's not normal |
| 17:52.12 | roothorick | could it be it's a 32bit install and I'm working in a chroot on a 64bit system? |
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| 17:52.59 | tremon | depends... are you trying to configure a 32-bit kernel with a 64-bit config? |
| 17:53.06 | roothorick | no... |
| 17:53.33 | roothorick | would apt-get be confused if the kernel is 64bit but the environment is 32bit? |
| 17:53.44 | xingu | roothorick: 2.6.32, or 2.6.32.60? |
| 17:54.17 | tremon | no, apt can handle it. most kernel modules have issues with that, but not apt or the kernel itself |
| 17:54.19 | mniip | tremon, in fact, i'm not even sure opengl is my problem, but looks like it is, http://mniip.com/qp/f0000007B |
| 17:54.26 | roothorick | xingu: the kernel image name is vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-686, the source is named 2.6.32 |
| 17:55.10 | tremon | mniip: that looks like a library/api issue (although X BadRequest errors can mean anything) |
| 17:55.46 | mniip | and what to do then? |
| 17:55.59 | tremon | paste the most recent Xorg.log from /var/log/ |
| 17:56.02 | roothorick | my main goal is to prune down the bootloader and main kernel image, and do away with the initrd, to work around some BIOS being insufferably slow about USB booting |
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| 17:57.02 | roothorick | so, using syslinux instead of grub, very very minimal kernel that has ohci/uhci/ehci usb-storage, and ext4 compiled in but EVERYTHING else as modules |
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| 17:57.09 | roothorick | specify root as /dev/by-uuid/etc |
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| 17:57.47 | tremon | roothorick: I'm not sure the kernel can parse /dev/by-uuid/, that's normally done by initramfs |
| 17:57.48 | mniip | tremon, the whole thing? ._. |
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| 17:58.11 | roothorick | tremon: from what I've read the kernel can't parse root=UUID= style syntax but the /dev thing should in theory work |
| 17:58.35 | tremon | mniip: well if it's larger than a few hundred lines X isn't totally happy, all the more reason to post it |
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| 17:58.52 | tremon | ok, might be true. haven't tried it recently |
| 17:58.55 | roothorick | tremon: still, if it doesn't work, I may be able to squeak by with a very minimal initrd that does the UUID parsing and nothing else |
| 17:59.17 | roothorick | the goal is to reduce the pre-kernel-EHCI-driver-load payload as much as possible |
| 17:59.20 | mniip | tremon, http://mniip.com/qp/f0000007C |
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| 18:00.19 | roothorick | because the particular board I'm making this for, it has USB 2.0 support, but the BIOS driver used for USB booting only does 1.1 and is gobsmackingly slow about it |
| 18:00.50 | Bernd187 | I have a problem with gnome using telnet from browser. how could I register links like "telnet://127.0.0.1:1234" to gnome so xdg-open could handle it. Please, need help! |
| 18:00.58 | roothorick | so I want to switch the controller over to 2.0 as soon as possible |
| 18:01.03 | tremon | mniip: (EE) GLX error: Can not get required symbols |
| 18:01.27 | tremon | your glx libraries have issues. I'd suggest reinstalling all mesa packages |
| 18:01.31 | mniip | missing includes i guess? |
| 18:02.44 | tremon | missing includes is usually only a problem when compiling, looks like something clobbered the libraries themselves. that usually happens when using binary driver installers, but intel doesn't do that |
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| 18:03.54 | mniip | not sure how can i "reinstall" with apt |
| 18:04.08 | Timmy | where can i access lenny repositories? |
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| 18:04.16 | tremon | apt-get --reinstall install $pkg, or aptitude reinstall (iirc) |
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| 18:04.28 | mniip | ooh |
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| 18:05.30 | tremon | also make sure your libdrm libraries are up-to-date (libdrm2 and libdrm-intel1) |
| 18:05.48 | mortai | is there any official way to build from source like Arch has? |
| 18:05.54 | mortai | as in, tied to the package manager |
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| 18:06.04 | daemonkeeper | You can easily rebuild packages. |
| 18:06.23 | roothorick | sonofa. The kernel config is confused, that's why I was having issues |
| 18:06.26 | roothorick | it thinks it's compiling 64bit |
| 18:06.27 | tremon | mortai: apt-get source -b |
| 18:06.47 | daemonkeeper | !package recomopile |
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| 18:06.49 | mortai | that works for most packages if I have the source repo enabled? |
| 18:06.56 | daemonkeeper | For all |
| 18:07.00 | daemonkeeper | !package recompile |
| 18:07.01 | dpkg | 1) Add a <deb-src> line for your current release to your sources.list 2) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential devscripts fakeroot; aptitude -R build-dep packagename 3) as any user, apt-get source packagename 4) cd packagename-version/; ask me about <debian/rules>; 5) dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us 6) as root, dpkg -i ../packagename-version.deb. Ask me about <debian/rules>, <nocheck>, <nostrip>, <apt-get source>. |
| 18:07.17 | tremon | it works after issuing apt-get build-depends $pkg |
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| 18:08.12 | roothorick | what's the cmd to set env for pretending to be 32bit again? |
| 18:08.22 | daemonkeeper | linux32 |
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| 18:09.17 | roothorick | daemonkeeper: thanks! |
| 18:09.49 | mniip | tremon, done reinstalling, also checked those libs |
| 18:09.54 | mniip | still not working |
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| 18:10.36 | tremon | maybe ask on #dri, I'm out of suggestions |
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| 18:11.17 | roothorick | There we go! No questions from oldconfig. We're in business. |
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| 18:11.52 | roothorick | so: 64bit kernel / 32bit env won't confuse apt-get but it WILL confuse kernel makefiles |
| 18:12.22 | tremon | apparently |
| 18:13.19 | mniip | ... |
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| 18:48.02 | MACscr | anyone have experience with redhat-cluster-suite on debian? How did you push out the cluster.conf changes? cman_tool doesnt seem to have an update parameter and debian also doesnt seem to have ricci |
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| 18:51.08 | soomsoom | I think i have problem :O |
| 18:51.22 | ompaul | soomsoom: with telepathy? |
| 18:51.32 | ompaul | cos no signal was received ;-) |
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| 18:51.37 | ompaul | !ask |
| 18:51.37 | soomsoom | i think my debian is april's fool of me... |
| 18:51.37 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 18:52.00 | soomsoom | the date is now 1-1-1970 :O |
| 18:52.04 | soomsoom | WTF?! |
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| 18:52.28 | ompaul | and the time? |
| 18:52.38 | soomsoom | the time is ok |
| 18:52.54 | soomsoom | only date |
| 18:52.55 | soomsoom | :O |
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| 18:53.36 | ompaul | if you want it set by remote computers to something accurate then ntpdate -u pool.ntp.org works |
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| 18:54.15 | soomsoom | ompaul: tried.... |
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| 18:54.42 | soomsoom | ompaul: you just pank'd!! :D |
| 18:54.50 | soomsoom | pranked! |
| 18:55.01 | ompaul | soomsoom: you think? |
| 18:55.08 | soomsoom | hamm |
| 18:55.10 | soomsoom | YES |
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| 19:02.16 | TomasCzech | Hello, I have Debian 6 almost set to what I need. LANG is en_US as I prefer it for coding/shell and even keyboard on notebook. Now for my apps in X, at times it could be pretty damm useful to switch to a second language. got locales-all, using fluxbox as wdm. I know there is some shortcut in some/all wdm to change lang/keyboard layout. Any ideas? |
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| 19:02.26 | TomasCzech | UTF8 |
| 19:02.35 | dimitry7 | hi guys, do you know how can I see the files of mailman that actually contain my emaik |
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| 19:03.55 | TomasCzech | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:07.58 | jparkton | should I set up the partition I want to use for debian before I run the netinst or during? |
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| 19:10.40 | TomasCzech | if you know layout of disk/partition sizes I would do it during netinst(manual disk partitioning when it asks) |
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| 19:12.36 | jhutchins | jparkton: Anything special about the disk? |
| 19:12.48 | jparkton | no |
| 19:13.01 | jparkton | fresh install of win 7 |
| 19:13.09 | jhutchins | jparkton: Concur w/ TomasCzech - use the internal. |
| 19:13.09 | jparkton | so nothing important either |
| 19:13.20 | jparkton | sounds good |
| 19:13.42 | jparkton | how do I need to edit boot file to allow me to pick either or at startup? |
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| 19:15.58 | jparkton | Im also switching over my fiances laptop to dual boot |
| 19:16.12 | jparkton | we are gonna try to start a Linux group on campus |
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| 19:18.57 | TomasCzech | jparkton, routine check: you have free space on disk? not in filesystem of win7? |
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| 19:20.34 | jparkton | two extra partitions |
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| 19:21.52 | dsirijus | um, is there any file where i can edit groups some user belongs to? |
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| 19:22.58 | TomasCzech | dsirijus, command usermod would be better. as far as files go: /etc/group ? |
| 19:23.23 | TomasCzech | dsirijus, or /etc/passwd depending on what group type |
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| 19:23.54 | dsirijus | TomasCzech: augh, all those are pretty much not intuitive :/ |
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| 19:24.19 | dsirijus | basically, i have removed a group manually from /etc/group, and now "group" command is throwing some errors for the users that belong to it |
| 19:24.37 | dsirijus | and removing them via command from that group says that group doesn't exist |
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| 19:25.04 | dsirijus | dsirijus groups: cannot find name for group ID 1002 |
| 19:25.11 | dsirijus | for $groups |
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| 19:26.06 | jhutchins | jparkton: By default, grub will have boot entries for both Debian and Windows. It may boot directly to Debian on the first reboot, but should pause at a menu thereafter (if not, run update-grub). |
| 19:26.38 | jhutchins | jparkton: Which campus? |
| 19:26.44 | jparkton | sounds good jhutchins |
| 19:26.57 | jparkton | ISU Idaho jhutchins |
| 19:27.03 | TomasCzech | dsirijus, then I would guess that it is their primary group? /etc/passwd and you should be looking for 1002 as gid (example: user:x:uid:gid: ....) |
| 19:27.12 | jhutchins | Hmn, kclug probably not much of a resource then. |
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| 19:27.22 | asterismo | gtk2 music player for debian? |
| 19:27.25 | jhutchins | jparkton: Best of luck with that. |
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| 19:27.59 | brontosaurusrex | asterismo, deadbeef |
| 19:28.12 | brontosaurusrex | audacious |
| 19:28.27 | converge_ | asterismo: xmms |
| 19:28.29 | dsirijus | TomasCzech: no, just some "sftp" group i've created |
| 19:28.31 | dsirijus | i think |
| 19:29.20 | dsirijus | TomasCzech: actually, yes, there's that id there in /etc/passwd |
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| 19:29.54 | dsirijus | now, seems like all entries have two gids, what should i put into that other field? |
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| 19:30.09 | TomasCzech | dsirijus, another thing could be checking fs for files owned by user/group of those id's. |
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| 19:31.07 | dsirijus | TomasCzech: bah, i've just put the first gid twice in there |
| 19:31.13 | TomasCzech | dsirijus, nono,... >>quote>> look for 1002 as gid (example: user:x:UID:GID: ....) or paste example if I don't follow. |
| 19:32.10 | dsirijus | TomasCzech: dsirijus:x:1000:1002:Ded Sirijus,,,:/home/dsirijus:/bin/bash |
| 19:32.18 | dsirijus | and i've changed that now to dsirijus:x:1000:1000:Ded Sirijus,,,:/home/dsirijus:/bin/bash |
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| 19:32.33 | dsirijus | and "groups" command now just returns "dsirijus" |
| 19:32.45 | dsirijus | which is, i presume, normal behaviour? |
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| 19:35.12 | pheedrus | http://www.debian.org get compromised? Frontpage is littered with warez jargon. |
| 19:35.55 | TomasCzech | dsirijus, assuming there is group with id 1000 and it is the group you want :) |
| 19:36.00 | ToApolytoXaos | people, i have been trying to understand how .desktop files work in .local/share/applications. I have copied one and edited it for netbeans which i have it in a unique location for "portable" apps. i have added those apps in my .bashrc and work fine if i call them from terminal. when i try to run them from "run" command (alt+F2) the file appears, but tries to call it from "/home/user/". why's that? can anyone enlighten met please? |
| 19:36.30 | dsirijus | pheedrus: of course, april fools didn't occured to you? |
| 19:36.44 | pheedrus | Darn it! |
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| 19:37.02 | pheedrus | Not a good joke to play on a security geek. |
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| 19:37.40 | TomasCzech | pheedrus, idk, it shows normal to me. aside the text. :) |
| 19:37.54 | ksuhku | hates `date` |
| 19:38.38 | pheedrus | And how do we know they really don't get owned? |
| 19:38.44 | pheedrus | didn't |
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| 19:39.07 | TomasCzech | pheedrus, it would look worse? :D |
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| 19:39.54 | pheedrus | Perhaps or perhaps not. |
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| 19:39.59 | dsirijus | TomasCzech: if i add user to multiple groups, all the gid would list there in /etc/passwd? like 1000:250:1002:whatnot? |
| 19:40.06 | dsirijus | *if i added |
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| 19:40.14 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | no |
| 19:40.24 | TomasCzech | dsirijus, no. user can be member of only one group as their primary |
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| 19:40.37 | dsirijus | and the other one is, let me guess, secondary? |
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| 19:40.51 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | the first number is the UID, the second is the GID |
| 19:41.06 | dsirijus | auch, i'm messing some shit up here completely |
| 19:41.19 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | on some systems, all users might all have the "users" group as their main, rather than their own group |
| 19:42.23 | TomasCzech | dsirijus, One more time, primary is only one. it has to do with files/folders ownership when created by the user I believe. |
| 19:42.50 | pheedrus | Probably just being extra paranoid as usual. |
| 19:43.00 | TomasCzech | dsirijus, for other groups that user belongs to, you would edit /etc/group and add their name at the end of row for the group they should be members of. |
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| 19:44.09 | dsirijus | ok, so, in /etc/groups i have dsirijus group with x:1000 |
| 19:44.11 | TomasCzech | dsirijus, ex: daemon:x:1:mysql,libvirt-qemu,root members of group daemon is who?(dont need to answer) |
| 19:44.13 | TomasCzech | adm:x:4:logcheck,root |
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| 19:45.07 | TomasCzech | dsirijus, there is user root that belongs to two groups in these examples. Just open the files read them, man pages for the files... |
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| 19:45.29 | TomasCzech | dsirijus, and you should be fine. |
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| 19:46.02 | dsirijus | i have no clue what i'm supposed to do now :) |
| 19:46.31 | TomasCzech | april jokes: archiva made a good event some day. They shown a picture of a pirate on all archiva sites. Now think about our support team :DD |
| 19:46.45 | TomasCzech | well it was in the background. |
| 19:47.06 | dimitry7 | guys, I still can't find where mailman is saving the emails... any clue? |
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| 19:47.12 | dimitry7 | I need the lists with the emails |
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| 19:48.05 | TomasCzech | dimitry7, sry mailman? user mail on specific host? |
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| 19:48.50 | TomasCzech | dsirijus, a bit wondering: what are you trying to do tbw? why are you playing with it so much. |
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| 19:51.09 | dsirijus | TomasCzech: well, i've added the user to group, then removed that group manually from /etc/group, then running "groups" command was throwing that error, when ran by that user |
| 19:51.47 | dsirijus | now, i'm just trying to figure out which two numbers to add in /etc/passwd |
| 19:51.54 | dsirijus | one is 1000, and i have no clue what the other one is |
| 19:52.05 | dsirijus | i've put 1000 twice |
| 19:52.19 | TomasCzech | dsirijus, 100 is I think users group grep users /etc/group |
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| 19:53.21 | kc8qvp | dsirijus: users have a 'primary group' and 'supplementary groups'... there's not much different between them, except that there's just two ways to put a user in a group: set a group field in /etc/passwd, or add them to a group in /etc/group |
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| 19:53.54 | dimitry7 | TomasCzech, mailman, the software for managing mailing lists |
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| 19:54.25 | Bonez | anyone know of a web based package browser like that used on packages.d.o for private repositories? |
| 19:54.31 | dsirijus | kc8qvp: ok, and how can i find gid of the supplementary group? |
| 19:54.33 | dreamvision | Ah, people are talking. Good! So I'm interested in Debian, have been for a while--but my wireless usb is a ralink and needs nonfree firmware. I have the debian net install, but I can't get connected to the net during install because it won't detect my wifi adapter. |
| 19:54.34 | dsirijus | bah |
| 19:54.43 | dsirijus | i'll just create another user and figure it out |
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| 19:55.12 | dreamvision | I have the net install dvd rather... |
| 19:55.14 | kc8qvp | dreamvision: honestly, the easiest thing for you to do |
| 19:55.15 | crhylove | dreamvision: Similar issue on one of my machines. |
| 19:55.20 | kc8qvp | dreamvision: is buy a different NIC |
| 19:55.34 | kc8qvp | dreamvision: or, install while connected via a cable, then fix your wireless NIC after it's installed |
| 19:55.38 | dsirijus | yeh, it was just twice the same number |
| 19:55.40 | crhylove | That was my solution as well. I had another wifi adapter, just used that for now. |
| 19:55.45 | dreamvision | It's not the option for me because I just paid 50 dollars for this wireless adapter. |
| 19:56.08 | crhylove | Linux Mint Debian Edition btw. (for me) |
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| 19:56.13 | dreamvision | I'm not rich! |
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| 19:56.18 | kc8qvp | dreamvision: *shrug* some hardware sucks for linux, because the manufacturers refuse to release specs to allow us to create drivers. |
| 19:56.39 | crhylove | dreamvision: how about hooking up a cable? Or just using another usb one for long enough to get the right drivers? |
| 19:56.44 | dreamvision | kc8qvp: The issue is three other distributions detect and configure my wifi... debian doesn't. |
| 19:56.50 | TomasCzech | dimitry7, sadly no idea. I would say mailman is not managing mailboxes. But I never configured mailman before. |
| 19:56.55 | crhylove | you don't have to be rich to borrow a usb dongle for a few minutes. |
| 19:57.14 | dreamvision | crhylove: Sure, but you'd have to know someone for that option. |
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| 19:57.25 | kc8qvp | dreamvision: Do you not have a wired NIC? |
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| 19:57.35 | dimitry7 | TomasCzech, I want to backup email addresses, not mailboxes. |
| 19:57.38 | crhylove | True. I do IT, so I have a stack of dongles in my briefcase. |
| 19:57.57 | dreamvision | No, just a hotpoint in my apartment complex for wifi. |
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| 19:59.51 | TomasCzech | dimitry7, sorry I mentioned it because "mailman" doesn't tell me what format and path is used to save those mails. if you would say postfix is installed I would start looking there in etc. |
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| 20:00.04 | dreamvision | Well, the end result is--I wanted to use Debian, but I'll have to stick with Arch or Slack because their software policies don't conflict with getting my wifi to work during install. :( |
| 20:00.16 | dimitry7 | TomasCzech, yes postfix is installed |
| 20:00.25 | dimitry7 | where exactly should i look in? |
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| 20:02.42 | brontosaurusrex | dreamvision, wheezy? |
| 20:03.05 | dreamvision | brontosaurusrex: I don't know, I just got the debian minimal install cd. |
| 20:03.15 | TomasCzech | dimitry7, ouch!! that was for smtp. dovecot & debian6? maybe grep mail_location /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf |
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| 20:03.59 | dimitry7 | I don't have dovecot directory under etc |
| 20:04.06 | dreamvision | brontosaurusrex: I don't know what wheezy means. |
| 20:04.18 | dimitry7 | TomasCzech, I don't have dovecot directory under etc |
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| 20:04.33 | brontosaurusrex | !wheezy |
| 20:04.33 | dpkg | The release following squeeze will be called "wheezy" (the rubber toy penguin with a red bow tie) and will be Debian 7.0. Wheezy was frozen on June 30, 2012. Ask me about <testing>, <freeze>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWheezy #debian-next on irc.debian.org. |
| 20:04.55 | dreamvision | Frozen? Does that mean it won't be updated any more? |
| 20:05.07 | brontosaurusrex | !frozen |
| 20:05.08 | dpkg | rumour has it, frozen is the state software resides in /before/ it becomes stable. Frozen means no new packages/features can be added, only bugs can be fixed. Frozen does /not/ mean stable. <Wheezy> is now frozen: http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2012/13/#freeze |
| 20:05.08 | TomasCzech | dreamvision, no. |
| 20:05.37 | dreamvision | Sorry complete noob here! lol |
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| 20:08.57 | TomasCzech | dimitry7, sry. I guess: I'm not the right person this time. |
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| 20:09.39 | dreamvision | Ok so wheezy you're saying should detect and allow me to config my wifi? |
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| 20:10.24 | ompaul | !ops techlife seems to have a sendq issue |
| 20:10.25 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: ompaul complains about: techlife seems to have a sendq issue |
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| 20:10.48 | TomasCzech | dreamvision, wheezy contains never "things" versions/drivers |
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| 20:11.07 | dreamvision | TomasCzech: can you mean newer instead of never? |
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| 20:11.20 | Waxhead | Hi, I just upgraded from Squeeze to wheezy using apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade. Now proftpd refuses to start complaining that it can't load mod_vroot.c. Operation not permitted on line 74 og etc/protftp/modules.conf |
| 20:11.25 | Waxhead | is this a known issue ? |
| 20:11.26 | TomasCzech | dreamvision, ehh. yes. |
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| 20:11.28 | brontosaurusrex | dreamvision, maybe http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 20:12.16 | dreamvision | TomasCzech: brontosaurusrex ok thanks |
| 20:12.16 | brontosaurusrex | dreamvision, whats your intention to do with the system? |
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| 20:12.23 | ompaul | Waxhead: not aware of others complaining if that is what you mean |
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| 20:12.36 | Waxhead | ompaul: ok , then I better file a bugreport I guess |
| 20:12.56 | dreamvision | brontosaurusrex: My intention, is to get a stable linux very stable that i can then begin to learn programming languages on |
| 20:13.26 | dreamvision | brontosaurusrex: but my biggest concern is i wanted a distribution with long time and big community support |
| 20:13.27 | ompaul | dreamvision: which languages are you targeting? |
| 20:13.40 | ompaul | dreamvision: go for wheezy and enjoy it |
| 20:13.57 | ompaul | dreamvision: just do the install connected to a router from the netinstall and have fun |
| 20:14.03 | dreamvision | ompaul: that i am still deciding, but looking at perl / c / lisp |
| 20:14.25 | ompaul | dreamvision: go for wheezy |
| 20:14.31 | TomasCzech | dreamvision, for what purposes if any? |
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| 20:14.50 | dreamvision | TomasCzech: uh, to be a programmer and get some job! |
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| 20:15.49 | dreamvision | ompaul: ok i will try it, can i install over the arch installation and keep my /home files? |
| 20:16.09 | brontosaurusrex | dreamvision, check your private-msg window |
| 20:16.12 | ompaul | dreamvision: perhaps you should think about that for a moment, I wouldn't |
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| 20:18.34 | MO_Handes | is it ok for firefox-bin to use 30-40% of cpu? |
| 20:18.54 | ompaul | dreamvision: pro tip, mixing dot files and home partitions is a good way to hurt yourself as random things change over versions |
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| 20:19.43 | TomasCzech | dreamvision, do you study? |
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| 20:20.11 | dreamvision | ompaul: ok, it's good advice i think on it, but i just wanted to keep some music and movies |
| 20:20.13 | ompaul | MO_Handes: depends on the hardware the site type, and other things, it seems high but if you are on a PIII then that would be excellent however as we know none of these things our guesses are based on our prejudices |
| 20:20.22 | dreamvision | TomasCzech: yes i am student |
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| 20:20.25 | ompaul | dreamvision: and why the but they are files |
| 20:20.52 | ompaul | dreamvision: you can run files and scripts again - but things that are specific to your own settings might burn your new setup have fun TIAS |
| 20:20.59 | TomasCzech | dreamvision, oke :) |
| 20:21.17 | dreamvision | ompaul: it's just mp3 and avi files! |
| 20:21.39 | TomasCzech | dreamvision, I agree with ompaul on /home because in your user directory there are also other user specific settings being saved. |
| 20:21.41 | ompaul | dreamvision: are you not reading what I am writing, your dot files are not your mp3s |
| 20:21.57 | ompaul | dreamvision: nor are they your avis or anything other than your dot files |
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| 20:22.07 | TomasCzech | dreamvision, try ls -Alh in shell and see that it is not only mp3 and 2folders. |
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| 20:22.08 | neefr | Hello. To securise a connexion by the protocol https, is Iceweasel using external library(ies) from Debian, or the process is included in Iceweasel? |
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| 20:22.31 | dreamvision | (^_^) guys I don't care of my "dot files" or settings, I can start over with openbox. |
| 20:23.25 | jparkton | so I booted into the continue install and it doesnt pick up my CD rom device |
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| 20:23.34 | jparkton | I'm skewered |
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| 20:24.00 | Stameni | whats the shorcut in wheezy for chainging keyboard language ? |
| 20:25.21 | Stameni | keyboard layout |
| 20:25.32 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration, maybe |
| 20:25.38 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | I'm not sure |
| 20:26.00 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | seems like it though |
| 20:26.22 | Stameni | i accidently press something and change layout |
| 20:26.29 | Stameni | but i cannot figure out what |
| 20:26.41 | Stameni | and can't find it in keyboard shortcuts |
| 20:27.45 | dizzylizzy | love debian.org right now :) |
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| 20:28.30 | MO_Handes | ompaul: I'm on a core i5 cpu, but sometimes debian crashes and I have to reboot using another tty command line |
| 20:28.48 | MO_Handes | ompaul, I think it is because of iceweasel |
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| 20:33.47 | MO_Handes | how to find the fastest repository in my region? |
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| 20:35.47 | link15 | MO_Handes: pretty sure you should set up a couple hundred proxied / distributed vm's to ping each server and see which one responds fastest |
| 20:35.54 | link15 | MO_Handes: that was sarcastic, don't do that |
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| 20:39.31 | LtL | MO_Handes: try http://http.debian.net/demo.html |
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| 20:58.38 | chriss1111 | Hello I have a question |
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| 21:01.33 | LtL | chriss1111: you have to ask the question |
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| 21:04.10 | fale | hi |
| 21:04.28 | chriss1111 | Hello Ltl I'm using Chromium and II don't be able to login my google-account what didn't go wrong |
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| 21:04.52 | fale | When I try to run a script php I receive: PHP Warning: in_array() has been disabled for security reasons in - on line 2. Where I have to look for to disable this security measure? |
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| 21:05.05 | queso | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=622946 Does this mean the cloud-utils package is not yet available? Or, how can I get this package? |
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| 21:05.46 | LtL | chriss1111: I can't say, did you receive an error? Have you tried another browser.. iceweasel for example |
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| 21:05.57 | tharkun | How can a vpn failure be detected? |
| 21:06.05 | tharkun | The vpn tunnel collapses? |
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| 21:09.27 | queso | Is it possible to download this package? http://ftp-master.debian.org/new/cloud-utils_0.26-1.html |
| 21:09.30 | chriss1111 | to Ltl I always receive the message server bussy |
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| 21:09.33 | allfro | hi all |
| 21:09.39 | allfro | it would appear that i am in dependency hell |
| 21:09.54 | allfro | i need to install a package from experimental… yes i really want to do this |
| 21:10.02 | LtL | chriss1111: i just tried with chromium and it works |
| 21:10.08 | allfro | but it keeps complaining about unmet dependencies that it won't install |
| 21:10.27 | allfro | when i try to install these deps, it says that they are already installed |
| 21:10.35 | allfro | what am i doing wrong? |
| 21:10.38 | allfro | how can i fix this? |
| 21:10.57 | chriss1111 | Ltl Oky I will it do ones more |
| 21:10.57 | jordanm | allfro, what version of debian are you running? paste the output of `apt-cache policy` along with the output of your attempted installation |
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| 21:11.48 | allfro | jordanm: latest release from debian.org (stable) |
| 21:12.23 | jordanm | allfro, it's very rare that you will be able to install a package from experimental on stable |
| 21:12.36 | jordanm | allfro, they are targets for unstable -> testing |
| 21:12.37 | allfro | jordanm: what do you suggest? |
| 21:12.46 | allfro | so i should install sid? |
| 21:12.49 | jordanm | allfro, what package is it? |
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| 21:12.53 | DexterF | hi |
| 21:12.54 | jordanm | for one package? never |
| 21:12.56 | allfro | libwebkitgtk |
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| 21:13.11 | allfro | the one in stable is an old buggy version |
| 21:13.18 | DexterF | anyone knwo what causes these messages? actually got two of those before the box froze |
| 21:13.20 | DexterF | http://www.vaultofsages.de/~dexterf/bilder/xerxes_oops.png |
| 21:13.35 | chriss1111 | to Ltl my bookmarks doesn't sync |
| 21:13.37 | jordanm | allfro, the experimental version is RC buggy |
| 21:13.45 | allfro | jordanm: http://pastebin.com/4BeAnn6A |
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| 21:13.56 | allfro | jordanm: sure, but it's got some fixes i want to try out |
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| 21:14.49 | allfro | so wjat |
| 21:14.51 | queso | How do I turn this into a deb package that I can install? http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/cloud-utils.git;a=summary |
| 21:14.55 | allfro | *so what should i do |
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| 21:16.04 | jordanm | allfro, there isn't even a version of that in stable |
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| 21:16.17 | jordanm | ,versions libwebkitgtk |
| 21:16.29 | allfro | jordanm: there is… i've been using it ;) |
| 21:16.37 | daemonkeeper | queso: git clone it, apt-get install build-essential, apt-get install build-dep cloud-utils, dpkg-buildpackage it |
| 21:16.48 | allfro | jordanm: apt-cache search libwebkitgtk |
| 21:16.53 | daemonkeeper | err apt-get build-dep cloud-utils |
| 21:16.55 | queso | daemonkeeper: Thank you! |
| 21:17.04 | jordanm | where is judd? |
| 21:17.12 | jordanm | allfro, http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libwebkitgtk&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all |
| 21:17.19 | jordanm | allfro, you didn't get it from debian stable |
| 21:17.43 | allfro | jordanm: hmmmm |
| 21:17.52 | allfro | well this is a fresh install of debian |
| 21:18.26 | allfro | jordanm: nm.. it was on ubuntu where i got it |
| 21:18.36 | allfro | but ubuntu had the old version 1.8 |
| 21:18.48 | queso | daemonkeeper: the build-deb cloud-utils command didn't find anything because it can't find a package named cloud-utils.. |
| 21:18.48 | allfro | so there is no way to get this on debian stable then? |
| 21:19.21 | jordanm | !tell allfro about ssb |
| 21:19.37 | chriss1111 | to Ltl Thanks for your help I fix it by myself |
| 21:19.37 | jordanm | allfro, you can try to backport it, or you can try to compile it from source |
| 21:19.51 | LtL | chriss1111: ok, good luck |
| 21:19.51 | allfro | jordanm: compilation would take a lifetime |
| 21:19.53 | allfro | :| |
| 21:20.04 | daemonkeeper | queso: then install the packages from debian/control manually, the build-depends line. |
| 21:20.28 | allfro | jordanm: i just need it for one simple test |
| 21:20.32 | jordanm | allfro, wheezy will be the new stable soon with v 1.8.1 |
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| 21:20.50 | allfro | jordanm: that's sad that 1.8.1 is what's being used |
| 21:20.52 | allfro | it's terrible |
| 21:21.09 | allfro | especially since we're at 1.11 |
| 21:21.33 | allfro | would debian testing work? |
| 21:23.22 | jordanm | allfro, yes |
| 21:23.56 | allfro | jordanm: this will allow me to play with experimental for sure? |
| 21:24.38 | queso | daemonkeeper: Thanks again! |
| 21:24.44 | jordanm | allfro, that version of that package |
| 21:24.57 | allfro | yeah, not interested in the testing |
| 21:25.09 | allfro | it's 1.8.1 in testing which again… is terrible |
| 21:25.29 | allfro | i really need the experimental package… i don't want to go anywhere near testing or stable, or whatever is 1.8.1 |
| 21:25.35 | jordanm | allfro, the experimental package should install in testing, but possibly requiring other experimental packages |
| 21:25.44 | allfro | that's fine |
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| 21:30.33 | queso | daemonkeeper: Got it to work and got it installed. Thanks again. |
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| 21:35.45 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Debian Wheezy (updated from squeeze). Problem: Doesnt react to ANY usb devices pluged. Additional info: Says " kernel:[376111.527923] Disabling IRQ #16 " everytime when unplugging. |
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| 21:36.58 | allfro | jordanm: no luck with the install |
| 21:37.06 | allfro | jordanm: still fails with the same issue… dependency hell |
| 21:37.24 | jordanm | allfro, you upgraded to testing? |
| 21:37.32 | allfro | yes |
| 21:37.38 | allfro | i installed wheezy testing |
| 21:37.40 | allfro | 6.07 |
| 21:37.45 | allfro | added the deb line for experimental |
| 21:37.56 | jordanm | wheezy is 7.0 |
| 21:38.23 | jordanm | 6.0.7 is current stable |
| 21:38.27 | allfro | f my life... |
| 21:38.31 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Debian Wheezy (updated from squeeze). Problem: Doesnt react to ANY usb devices pluged. Additional info: Says " kernel:[376111.527923] Disabling IRQ #16 " everytime when unplugging. |
| 21:38.32 | allfro | i just installed the wrong os |
| 21:38.34 | allfro | sorry brb |
| 21:38.39 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Will anyone help? |
| 21:38.44 | jordanm | !tell allfro about squeeze > wheezy |
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| 21:39.18 | allfro | i didn't get it |
| 21:39.32 | jordanm | !tell allfro about squeeze→wheezy |
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| 21:46.30 | zykotick9 | allfro: did you get it the 2nd time? you can use "/msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy" if you didn't |
| 21:47.15 | allfro | yep thanks |
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| 21:49.24 | Waxhead | Out of pure morbid curiosity. Pretty please with sugar and salt - Can as many as possible please post me their uptime?! Being 1st april and all it would be fun to calculate the total ;) (and sorry for potentially flooding the channel) |
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| 21:50.35 | ZekeS | Waxhead: 26 days, 2:46 on my homeserver, but that's not a debian box. My debian box is turned off when I'm done with it :/ |
| 21:50.51 | petn-randall | Waxhead: My girlfriend said 4 minutes. She wasn't happy. |
| 21:50.58 | ZekeS | (that 26 days coincides neatly with the last power outage we had~~) |
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| 21:53.18 | allfro | jordanm: now it's definitely not working |
| 21:53.24 | allfro | i've done as instructed |
| 21:53.31 | allfro | i still run into the same ugly issue |
| 21:54.19 | petn-randall | allfro: time to post the output on http://paste.debian.net |
| 21:55.01 | petn-randall | allfro: especially this from earlier -> 23:10 < allfro > when i try to install these deps, it says that they are already installed |
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| 21:56.03 | allfro | http://paste.debian.net/246497/ |
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| 21:58.11 | petn-randall | allfro: sorry, I didn't catch it while flying over the backlog; why do you need that package from experimental? |
| 21:58.29 | allfro | petn-randall: because the one in testing is buggy |
| 21:58.43 | allfro | 1.8 is extremely old and has a plethora of memory leaks |
| 21:58.52 | allfro | apparently 1.11 has several fixes that i want to test out |
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| 22:00.19 | linlin | gentlemen, i am trying to create an ext4 filesystem on a drive but i am getting the following error. what can i do to create the filesystem? this is an 18TB raid volume: mkfs.ext4: Size of device /dev/md4 too big to be expressed in 32 bits using a blocksize of 4096. |
| 22:01.44 | petn-randall | allfro: How did you verify this? Backporting the package isn't quite trivial. |
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| 22:01.59 | allfro | how did i verify what ? |
| 22:02.03 | EmleyMoor | linlin: That suggests that the space is larger than the maximum size... |
| 22:02.19 | petn-randall | allfro: The memory leaks? I see no bug reports of such against that package. |
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| 22:03.20 | allfro | petn-randall: it's been discussed in webkitgtk+ and the webkit change logs speak to this |
| 22:03.28 | allfro | also, it's been verified with a script i wrote |
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| 22:03.36 | allfro | that makes the kernel kill the process |
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| 22:03.44 | allfro | due to memory exhaustion |
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| 22:03.57 | EmleyMoor | linlin: The limit is 16TB |
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| 22:04.13 | petn-randall | allfro: The reason the dependencies don't install is because they have a versioned dependency. |
| 22:04.26 | EmleyMoor | Ah, hold on, that's ext3... |
| 22:04.40 | allfro | petn-randall: how do i get around this? |
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| 22:05.04 | wulllst | hey there, dows anyone know what the problem is when you cannot change settings as a normal user in xfce 4.6.2 on squeeze? |
| 22:05.11 | EmleyMoor | ext4 should allow 1EB - will check settings |
| 22:05.31 | wulllst | i mean, the technical problem. i guess it's a permission issue. |
| 22:06.03 | linlin | EmleyMoor yes i read that also. do you think i should try a different type of filesystem? |
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| 22:07.19 | EmleyMoor | linlin: Read this: http://blog.ronnyegner-consulting.de/2011/08/18/ext4-and-the-16-tb-limit-now-solved/ |
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| 22:07.38 | petn-randall | allfro: I'm not sure, did you maybe pin experimental in /etc/apt/preferences? Because AFAIR the default pinning of it (1), would let it to pull dependencies from their automatically. |
| 22:08.07 | petn-randall | allfro: If you didn't change the pinning, I'd start aptitude and use it to explicitly pull the right dependencies. |
| 22:08.10 | allfro | petn-randall: i did nothing else but add the experimental line to sources.list |
| 22:08.36 | allfro | petn-randall: installing the deps one-by-one would take forever |
| 22:08.39 | allfro | there are a lot of deps |
| 22:08.48 | EmleyMoor | linlin: Perhaps some other filesystem might work out better |
| 22:09.03 | petn-randall | allfro: aptitude will resolve the dependencies for you. |
| 22:09.51 | petn-randall | allfro: Though they might not even resolve at all, because experimental builds on sid, and you've got wheezy installed. |
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| 22:10.15 | petn-randall | allfro: and sometimes experimental packages are in a uninstallable state. |
| 22:10.41 | petn-randall | allfro: I recommend to pull it via apt-get source webkitgtk, then build the package yourself. |
| 22:10.54 | petn-randall | s/package/packages/ |
| 22:11.09 | allfro | petn-randall: ok, thanks for the pointers |
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| 22:12.05 | petn-randall | allfro: At this point probably building them yourself is the cleanest solution, you might break your system if you replace important package by those from experimental. |
| 22:12.14 | petn-randall | s/package/packages/ |
| 22:12.17 | petn-randall | damnit, again |
| 22:12.20 | allfro | petn-randall: yeah… |
| 22:12.27 | allfro | it's a VERY length build |
| 22:12.35 | allfro | i think I'm going to try it out on fedora instead |
| 22:12.38 | allfro | it's got 1.10 |
| 22:12.44 | allfro | thanks for the help though |
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| 22:18.16 | wulllst | ok, i'm defaulting to openbox. |
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| 22:20.40 | pbxbrian | Hey all. how would I test if bond0:0 is up with a bash script ? |
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| 22:22.56 | new[] | what's up with debian.org ? |
| 22:23.21 | deveux | Everything? (it seems to be up here) |
| 22:23.48 | new[] | "Debian iz free operatin sistem (OS) 4 ur computr." ??? |
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| 22:24.46 | deveux | April Fools perhaps. |
| 22:24.46 | martxel | new[]: april fools :) |
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| 22:24.47 | new[] | erp duh :) |
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| 22:27.04 | Aktau | Going crazy around here |
| 22:27.11 | Aktau | Trying to patch a package which is managed with quilt |
| 22:27.17 | Aktau | I apply a change to debian/rules |
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| 22:27.29 | Aktau | And perform quilt refresh and the other incantations |
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| 22:27.41 | Aktau | And still dpkg-source manages to tell me that the patch cannot be applied |
| 22:27.49 | Aktau | Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Skipping patch. |
| 22:27.53 | Aktau | Anyone had this before? |
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| 22:39.42 | [vali] | Hi |
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| 22:45.36 | CrowX- | I set up sftp service following this tutorial, http://www.howtoforge.com/chrooted-ssh-sftp-tutorial-debian-lenny |
| 22:46.06 | CrowX- | However I can't login with the user I set the chroot for, i.e. with the user I followed this tutorial |
| 22:46.34 | CrowX- | when trying to login with it it says "Couldn't read packet: Connection reset by peer" |
| 22:46.52 | CrowX- | but I can login without problems with other users |
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| 22:47.45 | Stameni | i`m using debian wheezy and whenever i log out or restart i have to set resolution upon next login using xrandr command, how to set resolution to be default on startup 1920x1080 ? |
| 22:47.53 | emss | nice april fools debian.org :) |
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| 22:49.39 | abrotman | if only it were a joke ... |
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| 22:51.30 | Stameni | when i say restart i meen turn off and power on again, not actualy reboot |
| 22:52.03 | Stameni | just, how to set default sturtup resolution, why it keeps changing my res on 1024xsomething ? |
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| 22:58.16 | prompt32 | Is there any prog 4 linux, to defrag a ntfs disk ? |
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| 22:59.56 | mmnicolas | prompt32: move all the data out, move all the data back in |
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| 23:00.33 | emss | Stameni well you could probably edit xorg.conf or add the xrandr command to your ~/.xinitrc |
| 23:00.49 | prompt32 | 240G and put it where ? |
| 23:00.57 | emss | in the cloud? |
| 23:01.13 | mmnicolas | prompt32: in one of your external hard-drives |
| 23:01.39 | Stameni | emss i`ll try |
| 23:03.08 | mmnicolas | Stameni: that's usually because your monitor has a bad EDID, the thing that tells stuff about it |
| 23:03.15 | emss | Stameni or there might be a more correct way to set it if you are using gnome or kde or some other desktop environment |
| 23:03.29 | prompt32 | mmnicoas << i dont. The Case : 1)320G disk full of music+40G ext partition. 2)40G disk Linux |
| 23:03.42 | mmnicolas | emss: using a xorg.conf.d snippet seemed very appropriate |
| 23:03.49 | Stameni | emss: I am using gnome 3 ( wheezy ) |
| 23:04.18 | Stameni | mmnicolas, where to find it ? xorg.conf ? |
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| 23:08.58 | mmnicolas | Stameni: something like this: http://paste.debian.net/246508/ in your xorg.conf or in your xorg.conf.d/00somefilename would be best practice |
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| 23:10.08 | petn-randall | CrowX-: That's not a good tutorial. |
| 23:10.24 | Stameni | mmnicolas, tnx |
| 23:11.08 | petn-randall | CrowX-: If you really want to chroot the SSH users (which IMO doesn't really gain you anything), I'd do it with debootstrap, so you got a properly installed environment in there. |
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| 23:11.23 | mmnicolas | petn-randall: LXC! |
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| 23:12.37 | petn-randall | mmnicolas: would probably work, haven't tried it personally. |
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| 23:14.09 | mmnicolas | (it's awesome) |
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| 23:18.50 | jparkton | If I use a Thumbdrive to run a live distro can I use that to repartition my C drive? |
| 23:19.46 | petn-randall | jparkton: I'd guess so, yes. If it's Windows 8, make sure to deactivate fastboot before resizing. |
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| 23:20.04 | jparkton | currently its win 7 |
| 23:20.16 | petn-randall | jparkton: It should work just work. |
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| 23:20.23 | petn-randall | s/just work/just fine/ |
| 23:20.24 | jparkton | nice |
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| 23:20.32 | jparkton | heres to hope |
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| 23:21.21 | petn-randall | jparkton: As always, make sure to have backups. |
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| 23:22.06 | jparkton | this is a fresh install of win 7 so im safe |
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| 23:22.17 | jparkton | heh safe/ish |
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| 23:23.37 | petn-randall | jparkton: I don't expect anything to break, it's just that most people only think about backups when stuff is broke, which is too late :) |
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| 23:24.29 | jparkton | as someone whom has borked it a few times I can imagine |
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| 23:25.04 | jparkton | but #debian has always been there to say "Lol" |
| 23:25.07 | jparkton | :) |
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| 23:25.24 | petn-randall | jparkton: I've known people who wrote their bachelor thesis without backups. And then the thumbdrive with the only copy "was empty". |
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| 23:25.39 | jparkton | oh gard |
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| 23:25.53 | jparkton | that would be horrible forethought |
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| 23:26.37 | petn-randall | jparkton: People like that exist. Luckily it was a FAT32 partition before, and when openoffice saves, it saves a new copy before deleting the old one. |
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| 23:27.35 | petn-randall | jparkton: That way I found several copies of it with forensic tools, and the last copy was pretty current. I formatted the thumbdrive after that, and placed the copy in a dir named "backups are for wimps". |
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| 23:28.04 | koollman | I guess that's a lesson learned ;) |
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| 23:28.38 | petn-randall | oh well, drifting offtopic here. If you get stuck, jparkton, give us a shout. |
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| 23:41.26 | dimitry7 | hye guys, do you know what can I do to add a variable in the middle of this sentence: cat file.txt | ssh 192.168.0.5 "cat > /new/path/file.txt" |
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| 23:41.35 | dimitry7 | for ex: cat file.txt | ssh 192.168.0.5 "cat > /new/path/file_$b.txt" |
| 23:41.46 | dimitry7 | for the files to be ennumerated by $b |
| 23:41.57 | dimitry7 | because it isn't working that way |
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| 23:44.56 | Penix | dimitry7: so, you're trying to copy a bunch of files from one system to another, and name them sequentially? |
| 23:46.01 | dimitry7 | Penix, exactly ! :D |
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| 23:48.56 | rryoumaa | xargs |
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| 23:49.16 | rryoumaa | or for |
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| 23:49.39 | abrotman | is he going to copy the same file multiple times? |
| 23:50.11 | dimitry7 | abrotman, No |
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| 23:50.46 | dimitry7 | as you can see from my script. I am generating a diferent file, with a different append name on evey input line. |
| 23:50.59 | dimitry7 | * from every input line. |
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| 23:51.09 | abrotman | dimitry7: you know you can use the split command per line? |
| 23:51.47 | dimitry7 | abrotman, I just need to place the variable $line in the middle of the " " to append the name, that's it. |
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| 23:52.04 | dimitry7 | just need to know how do I have to place the quotes. |
| 23:52.47 | confusid | I have the latest xserver-xorg-video-intel installed but my video still locks up and when it does the whole computer is not responsive to anything. I am guessing it is the video driver due to the video going all wonky when it locks. /var/logs/* went threw them and I don't see anything to give me a hint to what is going on. Any recommendations on what I should do to fix this? Running Wheezy |
| 23:53.56 | confusid | lspci -v | grep VGA 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGAcontroller]) |
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| 23:54.35 | confusid | just installed the xserver-xorg-video-intel-dbg to see if it will give debug info. |
| 23:54.53 | abrotman | confusid: which version of Debian ? |
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