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00:05.26JahmHi all
00:05.26dimitry7abrotman,
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00:05.59lfsWhat is the apt-get command for finding packages with keywords?
00:06.00confusidabrotman: wheezy
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00:06.07JahmIs there any driver for my Realtek 8723AE for WiFi?
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00:06.38abrotmanlfs: apt-cache search or aptitude search
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00:06.55abrotmanconfusid: update-pciids ;lspci -vv .. what's your video card?
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00:08.19lfsNo suitable Java Virtual Machine could be found on your system.
00:08.19lfsThe version of the JVM must be at least 1.5.
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00:08.24JahmAnyone?
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00:08.37lfsWHat do I need to download to get JVM?
00:08.52petn-randallJahm: Quite possible. Doesn't it work at the moment? Is it a PCI device?
00:08.53confusid00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
00:09.17Jahmpetn-randall: laptop, so it's safe to assume it is a pci device
00:09.40petn-randallJahm: you can paste the output of lspci -n into here: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
00:09.50petn-randallit'll tell you if the device is supported.
00:10.06abrotman!tell lfs about install java
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00:10.14abrotmanconfusid: that is not lspci -vv
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00:12.06Jahmpetn-randall: there's one, but it is for the ethernet
00:12.24JahmThere's nothing here for wireless
00:12.35petn-randallJahm: does lsusb mention wireless?
00:13.05confusidabrotman: this?  http://paste.debian.net/246513/
00:13.06JahmNope
00:13.11petn-randallJahm: Make sure to turn it on if it has a HW switch, before you run lspci/lsusb.
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00:14.33dimitry7abrotman, I just need to place the variable $line in the middle of the "   " to append the name, that's it.
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00:14.36dimitry7just need to know how do I have to place the quotes.
00:14.47lfsI installed default-JRE and I still get No suitable Java Virtual Machine could be found on your system.
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00:15.08Jahmpetn-randall: it's already on and it's not here
00:15.35petn-randallJahm: paste the full output of lspci and lsusb to http://paste.debian.net please.
00:15.50lfsVista just went kaput on this machine.  If I can Think or Swim to work.  Good by Microsoft.
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00:16.04confusidabrotman: here it is running it as sudo http://paste.debian.net/246514/
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00:16.59Ariel_Calzadahi i use debian testing with XFCE but i want to install always latest kernel and xfce packages from experimental. I want to do it automatically any idea???
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00:19.03Jahmpetn-randall: lspci - http://paste.debian.net/246515 lsusb - http://paste.debian.net/246516
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00:20.29petn-randallJahm: Sure it's there, it's line 17 of your lspci paste. :)
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00:21.01JahmOh yah didn't see this
00:21.05JahmSorry
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00:21.25JahmBut how can I get this running?
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00:22.54JahmIn Wicd Network Manager, it says 'No wireless networks found.'
00:23.10petn-randallJahm: what does ifconfig -a give you?
00:23.24abrotmanconfusid: that's still not what i asked for ...
00:23.50petn-randallJahm: You're likely missing firmware. Install firmware-linux-nonfree.
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00:24.52jaggzthe debian iso's.. are they compatible with: Live-media-path Kernel Parameter, or iso-scan kernel parameter?
00:24.58jaggz(using a debian live cd iso)
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00:25.43dimitry7abrotman, thanks I was able
00:25.44petn-randallJahm: (You'll have to unload and load the driver, simplest done by a reboot.)
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00:26.08Jahmpetn-randall: http://pastebin.com/gzuChiDY
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00:26.30abrotmanjaggz: try it and see ..
00:26.55Jahmpetn-randall: sorry really new to linux
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00:27.22petn-randallJahm: no problem, we're here to teach you how to fish ;)
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00:27.38confusiduseing  sudo update-pciids; lspci -vv i get this..  http://paste.debian.net/246517/  and I think the video card is intel i915.  If I am not giving correct info I apologize
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00:27.49jaggzabrotman, don't want to waste time.. had "YUMI" usb multiboot making app take an hour or something.. and it didn't work.
00:28.03JahmHow can I unload and load my wireless driver?
00:28.10jaggztrying xboot now.. it has a qemu emulator which might work well for testing in advance
00:29.06SunStarway to do debian.org!
00:29.15petn-randallJahm: with lspci -v you'll see "Kernel driver in use: X" for your device. Simply "modprobe -r X", followed by "modprobe X".
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00:29.59petn-randallJahm: of course, after installing firmware-linux-nonfree.
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00:30.55JahmWhat is X?
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00:32.23petn-randallJahm: X is a place holder for whatever module name is in the output.
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00:35.22Jahmpetn-randall: there's no 'Kernel driver in use: X' for my Wireless
00:35.26JahmIs this normal?
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00:36.09JahmThough there is in ethernet
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00:37.09jaggzabrotman: but I'm getting the belated feeling that if it wouldn't work you might have said "don't"
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00:37.54petn-randallJahm: Can you paste output of lspci -n?
00:38.06dvs-nn
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00:38.38petn-randallJahm: right, lspci -nn
00:38.40petn-randall:)
00:38.48petn-randalldvs: good idea :)
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00:39.20dvshas done it too many times
00:39.23abrotmanjaggz: i can't say ...
00:39.30abrotmanpetn-randall: -nn is almost always better
00:39.30Jahmhttp://paste.debian.net/246520
00:39.51jaggz:)
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00:40.25dvs,pciid 10ec:8723
00:40.43dvsjudd: pciid 10ec:8723
00:41.03dvshmmmmm
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00:41.31jaggzabrotman: boots up in qemu fine.
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00:41.53petn-randalljudd is dead :(
00:42.00dvslong live judd
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00:43.43JahmHmp I hate this :*
00:43.45Jahm:(
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00:45.03petn-randallJahm: Apparently your device isn't supported (yet).
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00:46.01JahmBoo
00:46.02JahmSeriously?
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00:47.04MissKittyI have a question I installed debian testing gnome but it doesn't work like gnome 3 in other distros am I doing something wrong?
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00:48.22MissKittyit looks like Kali's gnome not like Fedora's Gnome desktop
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00:48.41petn-randallJahm: The driver is in linux kernel v3.8, I'll check when it was introduced.
00:48.43confusidMissKitty: updating my firmware fixed mine.  linux-firmware-nonfree linux-firmware-free linux-firmware
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00:48.59vrkalakeach of the OS Devs customize the DE/WM to their own needs
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00:49.30MissKittyi know but gnome 3 look the same in all distros
00:50.00petn-randallJahm: Was introduced in v3.8, yeah :/
00:50.05MissKittywith a few changes here and there opensuse and fedora look the same with a few minor details
00:50.12JahmSooooooo
00:50.20JahmI won't be able to use my wireless?
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00:51.13MissKittyconfusid how do i update those apt-get debian-firmware-nofree?
00:51.41confusidMissKitty: have you updated your source.list?
00:51.54MissKittyno i am new to linux
00:51.58petn-randallJahm: Which means you could install a more current kernel, but that won't be easy.
00:52.28MissKittyhow do i update my source.lidt
00:52.38MissKittylist*
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00:52.51JahmSo, my Deb is running at 2.6
00:53.10petn-randallJahm: Which debian release are you using? cat /etc/debian_version
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00:53.29Jahm6.0.7
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00:53.37JahmRunning on xfce
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00:54.06confusidMissKitty: are you using wheezy or squeeze?
00:54.11petn-randallJahm: Either 1) you bake your own kernel, or 2) you upgrade to wheezy, then install a kernel from experimental.
00:54.26JahmOh yeah, I'm on Squeeze
00:54.32MissKittytesting so that would be wheezy
00:54.37Jahmpetn-randall: which one do you prefer?
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00:55.23petn-randallJahm: I'd go with upgrading to wheezy (it'll be the new stable very soon, and has been frozen for about a year now) + experimental
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00:55.44petn-randallJahm: bonus is you'll newer software, too.
00:55.46JWGUBNYMGBQWOIwheezy's been frozen for a year?
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00:56.25petn-randallJWGUBNYMGBQWOI: about a year, yes.
00:56.31JahmAnother stupid question, how can I upgrade to Wheezy?
00:57.00confusidMissKitty: this is what I have for my /etc/apt/source.list file  http://paste.debian.net/246524/
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00:57.05confusidI am using wheezy.
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00:58.25MissKittyoh ok so there is not command i can use to do so in terminal?
00:58.30confusidMissKitty: once you update your source.list then it should be.  apt-get update && apt-get install linux-firmware linux-firmware-free linux-firmware-nonfree
00:58.39confusid:)
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00:59.18MissKittyDo not know how to update my source.list
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00:59.35JWGUBNYMGBQWOIMissKitty: you can edit it by hand, or do something like sudo wget -O/etc/apt/sources.list http://paste.debian.net/plain/246524
00:59.45confusidI use sudo mousepad /etc/apt/source.list
00:59.46confusidor vi
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01:00.16petn-randalldpkg: tell Jahm -about squeeze->wheezy
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01:00.49JahmThanks bunch
01:00.52petn-randallJahm: dpkg should have given you the info you need. If there are more questions, don't hesitate to ask.
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01:01.27MissKittyI will wait until debian 7.0 is released and all is working ....i will try to download fedora and see if i can get pass their stupid installer that tell me i got 3 GB when I have 60gb 0_o
01:02.08MissKittyIf not i will try your way
01:02.16MissKittythanks anyway
01:03.17petn-randallMissKitty: wheezy has about 20 release-critical bugs, all in package probably not on your system.
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01:03.48confusidI don't see gnome3 in backports for squeeze.  Am I overlooking it?
01:04.14petn-randallconfusid: Nope, it's only in wheezy and upwards.
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01:05.31MissKittyyeah i will wait....when will the 7.0 stable will be release you think?
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01:06.11petn-randallMissKitty: In the next couple of days.
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01:06.49MissKittyif Fedora keeps screwing with my installation i will try OpenSuse even when they are not my cup of tea better than nothing I guess....
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01:07.46petn-randallMissKitty: Maybe it helps to actually concentrate on fixing the few bugs you have instead of distro-hopping every time a blip shows up on the radar ...
01:08.29JahmOnce in Wheezy, my kernel will be updated?
01:08.38JahmThat will support my wireless device?
01:09.07MissKittyRandall I am a blond girl and new to linux...i am not some 7of9 like girl who can give you the square root of 85763837 I am as dumb as a bag or rocks :)
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01:10.00MissKittyits a miracle I've made it this far with linux all because i break every window system i touch
01:10.02MissKittylol
01:10.08petn-randallMissKitty: nobody cares if you're blonde, or if you're a girl, or some 30 year old guy. We care about Debian in here.
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01:10.38MissKittyNo i am telling you that I am not a smart one
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01:11.08petn-randallMissKitty: I'm merely stating that you'll probably get results quicker if you fix the things that disturb you on your distro you know, instead of changing the saddle and learning a new distro from the beginning again.
01:11.11LtLMissKitty: If you're -here- you're smart.
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01:11.49petn-randallMissKitty: Just keep telling you yourself, you might believe it!
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01:11.56MissKittyso thus i jump from one distro to the next instead of fixing it all the bugs on it it would take me years by the time i figure it out your development team would have a new release with all of it already fix lol
01:11.58petn-randalls/you/it/
01:12.26petn-randallMissKitty: Most problems are config mistakes.
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01:12.43confusidMissKitty: stable might be best.
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01:12.47MissKittyI know and I am sure I am 99% of the problem
01:13.38MissKittylol I need something that is rolling so i never have to bother with it once its working so i was dinking with testing cause i was told sid would kill me
01:13.41MissKittylol
01:14.11confusidsqueeze is your friend
01:14.26SvenDiagramwhoa, 7.0 is coming out in a few days?
01:14.37dvsyup
01:14.47MissKittyi do not like squeeze look and feel but gnome 3 looks great all black and sexy :)
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01:15.48confusidI have gnome3 installed and use it time to time.. but xfce is my main desktop in all black.
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01:16.34MissKittytry the dusk theme on debian and did not like Xfce :(
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01:17.15confusidneed to do a backup then see what else I am going to break. :)
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01:17.21MissKittyi know i will hate opensuse cause i hate green and lizards
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01:17.33MissKittyplus they are Microsoft too
01:17.35MissKitty:(
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01:18.08MissKittyAnd fedora is being a bitch and is not installing :(
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01:20.11MissKittyPClinux suck its KDE and has the dumbest applications like Kwallet with a password to use your own wifi i forget my own password all the time for me using KDE is like having a 4 year old driving in the freeway
01:20.29elongurwat
01:21.03MACscris there a more efficient/simple way to edit boot order of services? i need iscsi to start before cman and clvmd =/
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01:21.26MACscrand ssh to start before any of that
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01:24.12MissKittywell thank you guys :(
01:24.17elonguryw
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01:25.41MACscrah, looks like i should the following for boot ordering? http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts/DependencyBasedBoot
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01:26.57MACscrlol, thats almost even more confusing
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01:35.43Jahmpetn-randall: when I do apt-get dist-upgrade, it says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed etc
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01:36.44JWGUBNYMGBQWOIJahm: did you apt-get update first?
01:37.00JahmJWGUBNYMGBQWOI:
01:37.04JWGUBNYMGBQWOIhi
01:37.08JahmYes
01:37.21preds`what happens if machines A scp's a file from machine B to itself and the file is rm'd on machine B half way through the transfer?
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01:37.44JahmThere are only 2 deb and deb-src inside my sources.list
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01:37.56JahmFor security
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01:38.26JWGUBNYMGBQWOIpreds`: it'd get corrupted probably, or if scp checks the file afterward, it might try to resend or delete it
01:38.33JWGUBNYMGBQWOIJahm: what are the lines
01:38.55Jahmdeb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main and deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main
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01:39.38JahmI added deb and deb-src http://debian.co.il/debian wheezy main
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01:42.05JWGUBNYMGBQWOIJahm: your /etc/debian_version says 6.0.7, your /etc/apt/sources.list has wheezy, you apt-get updated, and upon apt-get dist-upgrade it says 0 things to upgrade?
01:42.23JahmJWGUBNYMGBQWOI: yah
01:42.39Jahmdist-upgrade is now running
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01:43.20JWGUBNYMGBQWOI.
01:43.29dvs...
01:44.02JahmCan I stop this?
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01:45.00emssyes ^C
01:45.04JWGUBNYMGBQWOI(you're upgrading, why would you want to stop 2 minutes in?)
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01:45.14JWGUBNYMGBQWOI^C wont be harmful for the download phase though
01:45.25JWGUBNYMGBQWOIdoing it while it's installing stuff might break the install
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02:05.28scootypuffif i install ubuntu's version of glibc on testing will my computer explode?
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02:10.15convergeim looking for a small hardware to run openwrt, like mikrotik, but I dont like MIPS processor, do u know some alternative ?
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02:11.39rwpscootypuff, Probably.
02:11.52rwpscootypuff, Probably. Are you trying to play Steam?
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02:12.46mmnicolasscootypuff: steam is packaged with ubuntu's libc from what I can see
02:13.07mmnicolasit even updates it
02:13.18rwpscootypuff, This might be useful to you. http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/1/846939071205530634/
02:13.55scootypuffi dont care about steam. i have a binary that needs 2.15
02:14.01rwpconverge, Don't know.  But but more useful than openwrt would be Debian on a Raspberry Pi with a wifi adapter.
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02:14.30scootypuffand even sid is 2.13
02:14.33rwpscootypuff, Try libc6 from experimental?  Easy to install.
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02:14.51rwpexperimental is 2.17.
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02:15.39convergerwp: thanks
02:15.40rwpscootypuff, What I tend to do when I am in those situation is to use a chroot with all of the libs from where the binary came from.
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02:15.59convergerwp: but how can I turn debian into an wifi router?
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02:16.30rwpconverge, Use the hostapd package to set it up as an access point.
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02:19.19rwpconverge, I don't have a canned solution for you.  I am working through the details myself.  But I have a buddy who has it set up that way so I know it is possible and reasonable.
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02:20.21convergerwp: I think it's pretty possible to do, I just have to spend some time reading and making it happen
02:20.31rwpYep!
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02:25.04rwpconverge, The biggest downside to the Raspberry Pi is that the USB chip is quite slow.  It is fast enough to support 802.11bg but not fast enough to support n at full speed.  About 55Mbit/s max.
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02:39.08JWGUBNYMGBQWOIdjanos```: can you stop having a bad connection
02:39.25dvsJWGUBNYMGBQWOI: I don't think he's there.
02:39.33JWGUBNYMGBQWOI(it was mostly a joke)
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02:39.57JWGUBNYMGBQWOIhow many people here do you think ignore join/part/quits anyway
02:40.12dvsreads every one
02:41.21JWGUBNYMGBQWOII meant as in client /ignore
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02:43.47belak51What are the repos for debian testing?
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02:44.57dvs!tell belak51 about wheezy sources.list
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02:45.15belak51That's what I was looking for
02:45.20belak51Thanks dvs
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02:45.46belak51Isn't there a way to use testing as the release name?
02:45.51JWGUBNYMGBQWOIwheezy
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02:46.21dvsbelak51: Why?  That's just going to cause havoc in a few days.
02:46.42belak51A few days?
02:46.49JWGUBNYMGBQWOIs/days/weeks/
02:47.02JWGUBNYMGBQWOIbelak51: wheezy is releasing soon
02:47.16belak51I was gonna say...
02:47.25belak51Fair enough, though
02:47.45belak51Thanks
02:47.53belak51Any info on the release schedule of wheezy?
02:48.07dvsnope
02:48.20belak51Ok, fair enough
02:48.24belak51Thanks again!
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02:54.06MACscrdoes debian use SysV init for startup management?
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02:54.24mmnicolasbecause nothing else is "really" better
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02:56.00MACscrmmnicolas: who you talking to?
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02:56.36JWGUBNYMGBQWOIyou, it looks like
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02:57.16rwpMACscr, Debian still uses sysvinit scripts because they work and nothing else is really better.
02:57.16MACscrwell the answer didnt seem to make sense because he answered it like i was looking for a reason when i was actually asking if thats what it sued
02:57.31rwpAlthough many people would like to change it to something different.
02:58.10MACscrwhats the proper way to manage it? i have stuff that appears to be set to not start at boot, but it is
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02:58.53rwpMACscr, Tell us more?  I am sure if we knew then we could explain and help.
02:59.20rwpFor the most part if you want something to run you install it.  If you want something not to run then you remove it.
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03:00.00MACscrrwp: well i have redhat cluster suite installed and its trying to start cman before iscsi and clvmd before that as well, all before ssh as well. Id prefer ssh -> iscsi -> cman -> clvmd
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03:01.23rwpDebian uses a parallel start sequence.  The installed /etc/init.d/* scripts should all have LSB headers that declare required starts and stops.
03:01.24lfs/usr/bin/java   Is this the JVM?
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03:01.49belak51lfs: it should be
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03:02.08rwpIf things are not starting in the right order then it means that the LSB headers have incorrect statements of requirements.
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03:03.06rwpRunning 'man insserv' will show the documentation for how the order is decided.
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03:03.28rwpIt is possible to place overrides but I think it is better to get to the root cause of the problem.
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03:04.33MACscrso confusing as hell =P
03:04.34rwplfs, Try running: update-alternatives --display java
03:05.02MACscra little over complex imho
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03:05.11rwpMACscr, I rather like the old SysV way of just numbering them myself too.  But everyone wants new fancy things.
03:05.22rwpSimpler than either upstart or systemd.
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03:05.51airbanderand openrc of gentoo
03:05.56JWGUBNYMGBQWOII might have tried systemd a bit longer if it supported the 0-6 convention
03:06.15JWGUBNYMGBQWOIrather than named init levels
03:06.27airbanderconventional init scripts are faster in fact
03:06.29rwpopenrc seems interesting.  I haven't looked at it enough yet.  But it looks better than systemd to me.
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03:07.03JWGUBNYMGBQWOIwill openrc make it to debian
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03:07.18JWGUBNYMGBQWOI+ soon
03:07.21airbanderumm, in my case, i think openrc is better than systemd
03:07.50airbandersystemd stuck in detection for seconds
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03:07.59rwpMACscr, I have no idea about iscsi or cman or clvmd.  Which makes it harder for me to suggest something.
03:08.14rwpBut if you installed them and they are incorrect then please file a bug about them.
03:08.23rwpThat way they will get fixed for the next person who uses them.
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03:12.57rwpMACscr, Run "insserv -v" and look at the output.  Any errors?  If there are any errors then those would need to be fixed.  If not then look at the order created in /etc/rc2.d/S*
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03:13.41MACscrinsserv: creating .depend.boot, insserv: creating .depend.start,insserv: creating .depend.stop
03:13.49rwpAll normal output.
03:13.52rwpNo errors shown.
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03:14.35rwpIs the start order in /etc/rc2.d/S* what you want?  No?  It is possible to tinker with the /etc/init.d/* scripts to change the dependencies to effect a different order.  Tinker.  Run insserv -v again.  Check the result.
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03:14.57rwpMake a good backup first!
03:15.14JWGUBNYMGBQWOIrwp: debian's sysvinit goes through each script to check the lsb headers?
03:15.18MACscrbut thats not the right place to make changes to core files
03:15.47rwpJWGUBNYMGBQWOI, The 'insserv' program does, yes.  Reads all of the /etc/init.d scripts for LSB headers.
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03:16.17rwpMACscr, Why not?  The /etc/init.d/* files are all conffiles.  Any changes you make there will be preserved on upgrades.
03:16.30themillyou can also override dependencies without changing the conffiles
03:16.37rwpBut changes there will be annoying because the changes will be offered as a package file, user file, or merge right now option.
03:16.45JWGUBNYMGBQWOIrwp: I mean, what exactly happens at boot, does insserv create a list that init goes through at boot, or does init have to scan each file?
03:16.56rwpSo there is /etc/insswerv/overrides directory.  You can make changes there without a merge at upgrade time.
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03:17.49rwpthemill, You mean /etc/insserv/overrides?  Yes.  But if it is a package bug then editing the package with the bug might be the simplest debugging.
03:18.24themillrwp: true, but avoiding conffile prompts is also worthwhile as you were just saying.
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03:18.59rwpAgreed.  But if someone is a refugee from another system that doesn't use insserv then it is yet another layer of complication.
03:19.05themillyes
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03:19.29rwpBaby steps are often good even if not completely pure.
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03:19.54rwpThe important thing here would be to determine exactly what the problem is and understanding it.
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03:30.34MACscrunfortunately i am no closer at all to figuring this out =p
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03:30.47MACscrchkconfig in centos is way easier to manage =P
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03:31.18rwpBut chkconfig does not control boot order.  So that doesn't even apply here.
03:31.37rwpIf you want something to run then install it.  If you want something not to run then remove it.
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03:31.59rwpThe chkconfig process was brought in so that multiple conflicting things could be installed simultaneously and one of them selected to run.
03:32.06rwpBut not about the order in which they run.
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03:34.21MACscrbut there isnt even an boot on off option for debian is there? thats more what i was stating with chkconfig
03:34.49MACscrwell, id just disable them all and start them with rc.local =P
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03:38.30rwpMACscr, That is rather the nuclear option.  You can do that.  But then you might as well do a from scratch system.
03:38.53rwpMACscr, Any manual changes you make the /etc/rc2.d/* should be preserved by insserv.
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03:39.16MACscri have things that are starting that arent even in rc2.d =/
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03:39.20rwpIf you remove a /etc/rc2.d/Ssomething link then it should stay removed as a local configuration change.
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03:39.59rwpBut don't remove all of the symlinks because it is impossible to tell the difference between none and a fresh installation.
03:41.37rwpMACscr, Such as?
03:41.58rwpSome things such as networking is now event driven in the Linux kernel.  Devices are hotplugged and the kernel/udev triggers even scripts.
03:42.13cherihi I have a debian system that has 3ware raid controller on it on which I have connected a sata disk directly on to one of the motherboard sata ports during installation that drive is identified as sda I chose to install the os on sdb now I don't see the sda after the installation is complete
03:42.27rwpSuch as those in /etc/network/if-up.d/* and other similar things.
03:42.41cherican anyone please help how I can see the sda on the machine
03:43.26rwpcheri, Confused.  You installed on /dev/sda.  Then you moved what to what?
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03:43.39cherino installed /dev/sdb
03:44.02rwpOkay.  So there was a different disk at /dev/sda and you had a disk at /dev/sdb and you installed on /dev/sdb.  Gotcha.
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03:44.07rwpThen what?
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03:44.12cheriyes
03:44.16cherisdb   sdb1  sdb2  sdb5  sdc   sdc1  sdd   sdd1
03:44.36cherithis is what I have sda is a 500Gb disk I don't see it
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03:44.49MACscrrwp: what is /etc/rcS.d/ for?
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03:45.06cherithe only difference all other partitons are connected thru raid controller
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03:45.14cheriwhere sda is not
03:45.21rwpMACscr, Single user mode.  Maintenance.  You can boot to single user mode and do repairs.
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03:46.20rwpThe idea is that multiuser networking mode starts up everything that should be started.
03:46.55rwpBut you might need to get in front of it at boot time (or reboot to single user mode time) and make a change such as to /etc/fstab or the /etc/passwd file to reset a root password or whatever.
03:47.22rwpIn Debian 2 is the default runlevel for everything.
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03:47.33MACscrim familiar with single user mode, just have no clue why cman is starting when its only in rc0, rcS and rc6
03:47.50rwpBut originally 2 was multiuser mode.  3 was networking active mode.  4 became X display manager mode.
03:48.11MACscrall the startup BEGIN INIT INFO stuff is commented out in the /etc/init.d/cman file
03:48.13rwpBut no one uses runlevels these days.  So why not just keep them all in runlevel 2?  So that is what Debian does.
03:48.50rwpIt is a shell script.  So any additional information can only exist in comments.  Just like the #! at the top is a comment.
03:48.59MaxLanarcheri: blkid -o list will maybe help you
03:49.02rwpA comment to the shell interpretting the script.  But other things read the file and pay attention.
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03:49.09cheriwill try that
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03:49.33MACscrseems weird that cman would start at single user mode
03:49.42MACscr# Default-Start:        S
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03:50.12rwpcheri, In Linux all devices pack down to the bottom of the alphabet.  So the first device is always sda, the second device is always sdb, the third is always sdc.
03:50.18cheriMaxlanar: Its returning the info of sdb sdc and sdd not sda
03:50.20rwpSo if there is an sdb then there must be an sda.
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03:51.23cherirwp: yes It showed me it as sda during installation but not now
03:51.27rwpMACscr, The Default-Start header has an 'S' in it?  Strange indeed.
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03:52.30rwpcheri, Does it show up in 'cat /proc/partitions'?  It should.
03:53.36cherirwp: no I checked it
03:53.57cherirwp: I can see the system identified it during the boot up its in the dmesg log
03:53.58rwpcheri, You still haven't told us what changed between when you installed on /dev/sdbX and now.
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03:54.57rwpcheri, It is in the dmesg log?  Then it is there.
03:54.59cheriwhen I added the disk the system had debian wheezy and I wanted squeeze
03:55.05cheriyes
03:55.29cheri[    8.882603] Probing IDE interface ide0...
03:55.29cheri[    8.894266] Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
03:55.29cheri[    8.894266] sd 3:0:0:0: [sda] 976773168 512-byte hardware sectors (500108 MB)
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03:55.47rwpLooks okay.
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03:56.37cherirwp: do you see any problem the drivers
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03:56.58rwpLooks okay.  It shows sda.
03:57.09rwpSo you had Wheezy.  You wanted Squeeze.  Okay.  What changes occurred then?
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03:57.50cheriwhen I added it at first wheeze was already there so the new disk is identified as sdd
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03:58.46cheriI installed squeeze and the new disk appeared as sda so I choose sdb as the boot partition
03:59.26rwpSo when you added a disk it was sdd.  That means there was a third disk at sdc too.
03:59.39rwpYou installed squeeze.
03:59.43cheriyes
04:00.08rwpWhen you say you choose sdb as the boot partition do you mean mounting /boot there?  Or installing grub there? Which?
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04:00.31rwpI am sure this is very close to the problem.
04:00.35cheriI used sdb for the entire installation even grub
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04:01.34rwpHmm...  That seems problematic to me.  Because now you have part of your system one disk and part on another.  And the /boot you chose is probably the /boot that was used by Wheezy.
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04:02.06rwpIf that was a fresh mkfs of /boot at the time that you installed then the wheezy files will have been purged away.
04:02.21rwpIf there wasn't then /boot will have both wheezy and squeeze files in there.
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04:02.41rwpNot sure which is better or worse but basically wheezy will probably be unhappy and squeeze will likely be unhappy.
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04:04.13rwpcheri, So after installation it will have wanted to reboot.  The initial install reboot.  Did it succeed?  I assume so.
04:04.25cherirwp: I formatted the entire disk I don't think there won't be any wheezy files
04:04.40cherioh I didn't try to reboot the sysstem after the initial reboot
04:04.42rwpThat makes things simpler.
04:04.44cherido you want me to try it
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04:05.07rwpNo.  I was talking about the initial reboot when it says okay to reboot and finish the installation.
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04:05.49rwpcheri, Basically I think you need three disks in your system now.  sda for the MBR.  sdb for the /boot and sdd for the rest of squeeze.
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04:06.36rwpWhich is why I don't like the way this is reading.  A complex set of interactions and dependencies.
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04:09.23cherirwp: hmm then I need to first install squeeze and then added the disk
04:09.31cherithanks rwp
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04:10.11baudtackI'm running Sid and getting popping and crackling sounds out of my audio. anyone have experience with this?
04:10.43rwpcheri, There are two disk orders.  BIOS ordering.  Used by the BIOS for booting.  And Linux kernel disk ordering.  Determined by the order the kernel detects disks.
04:11.06rwpcheri, Usually that is affected by the SATA0, SATA1, SATA2, SATA3 ports on the motherboard.
04:11.30rwpcheri, You can change the sdX ordering by changing the socket the SATA cable is plugged into when you add the disk.
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04:12.09rwpcheri, Sometimes machines come from the factory with disks plugged into SATA0 and those are always first.  And sometimes they come plugged into SATA3 or other and adding a disk causes them to move around.
04:12.10TriJetScudcheri: you can use blkid instead of using the sdX stuff to mount your drive
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04:12.43rwpcheri, TriJetScud, is correct.  That is the entire reason the UUIDs for disks were implemented.  To avoid the changing of ordering problem.
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04:13.09rwpcheri, But it is still important to know about because the BIOS will boot the first disk in BIOS order.
04:13.17TriJetScudif *you* really hate uuid's there's always LVM
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04:13.35TriJetScudwhich gives you a relative path to go by
04:14.13rwpLVM still uses UUIDs.  It is just internal and hidden from casual viewing.
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04:15.21NiLonis there any complete/half-complete system to make some sort of "cloud storage" for backups as main priority? I find that crontab and rsync thing might be bit too complex to set up correctly as it needs to support multiple users
04:15.23baudtackit often happens when stopping or starting audio in particular.
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04:16.06NiLonservices like dropbox offer what I need but problem is huge costs for space I need so I prefer to use my own hdd's
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04:16.30cherithanks rwp and TriJetScud
04:16.45cheriI will change the fstab and reboot the system
04:16.49cheriand see if it find the disk
04:17.13NiLonbasically it would be perfect if I could just set up directory that will get synced to "cloud" automatically
04:17.39rwpcheri, In summary to my long post above it means that I determine which disk I want to be first and I move it to SATA0 even if it came from the factory in another port.
04:18.45rwpcheri,
04:19.04rwpcheri, Don't forget that you can always use the debian-install media as a rescue media source.  It is very useful and powerful that way.
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04:19.38rwpNiLon, I recommend BackupPC.  Good tool.
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04:20.22NiLonrwp I will take a look
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04:23.57rwpNiLon, There is a nonfree Dropbox client.  Philosophically dark because it is nonfree.  But it does exist.
04:24.52rwpNiLon, Check out the Freedombox project.  I vaguely recall them talking about dropbox like functionality.  Can probably get some pointers from them.
04:24.58NiLonmm I think there are even free ones, isn't it open protocol afterall
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04:25.12robert_so for some reason, a system I'm ssh'd into (running Squeeze) has wraps to the beginning of the line after like 50 characters; can I change this? because it's annoying. :/
04:25.20robert_er
04:25.24robert_so for some reason, a system I'm ssh'd into (running Squeeze) wraps to the beginning of the line after like 50 characters; can I change this? because it's annoying. :/
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04:26.39rwpbaudtack, In debian-user mailing list just yesterday was same question https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/03/msg01289.html
04:27.02peterrooneyrobert_: you could try 'kill -SIGWINCH $$' (but don't do that until _after_ you look up what it will do in "man signal"
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04:28.40rwprobert_, I recall a bash setting to that effect.  But I don't remember the setting.  Join #bash and ask your question there.  Assuming you are using bash.
04:28.58robert_yeah; it's not updating the window size is the problem.
04:29.03rwprobert_, Otherwise check your .profile, .bash_profile, .bashrc for bash settings to change the line length.
04:29.17jwilliams_is there any recommended extension for w3m js? searching for w3m-js it seems no longer available.
04:29.27rwprobert_, Check that non-printable characters in PS1 are bracketed by \[...\] so that bash knows they are non-printable.  That is the most common problem.
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04:30.26rwprobert_, Sounds like non-printable chars in PS1 not protected by \[...\].
04:30.27robert_rwp: PS1='\u@\h:\w\$ '
04:30.35rwpThat is normal.
04:30.40robert_yeah, that's my PS1
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04:31.22rwpjwilliams_, Everyone wants javascript in a text mode browser.  I see the question asked on mailing lists.  But AFAIK there is no working solution today that exists to make it work.  Sorry.
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04:31.37rwpI want it too.
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04:32.33rwprobert_, Also check that LINES and COLUMNS are *not* exported and frozen.
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04:33.04rwpOtherwise it will override the stty setting.
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04:34.07robert_I will.
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04:37.20robert_yeah, now nano's being weird.
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04:38.10rwpWhat does 'stty -a' say about rows and columns?  Look okay?
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04:39.59robert_rwp: (I tried fixing this earlier with COLUMNS=300, so that may be interfering with trying to permanently fix this.)
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04:40.59rwprobert_, That would interact.  :-)
04:41.16robert_so can I unset COLUMNS?
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04:42.41robert_and a logout fixed it. :D
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04:43.03rwpYou can unset columns but since bash starts before you need to sneak up on it.  Unset LINES and COLUMNS and then start a second bash on top so that bash starts without them.
04:43.15rwpOr log out and log back in again.
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04:43.41rwpBash uses libreadline which reads terminfo/termcap just like an editor to get knowledge of the terminal.  LINES and COLUMNS set at program start override it.
04:43.59robert_ah.
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04:44.16robert_yeah now COLUMNS is 238
04:44.25robert_(set by bash)
04:44.50rwpIf that is what it is then that seems okay.  I have a terminal that is 172 at the moment.
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05:22.26jwilliams_rwp: get it. thanks.
05:22.28apm1i just forced a fsck on reboot with "shutdown -F now" and then rebooting
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05:23.05apm1the result was " 0.3% blocks are incontigous"
05:23.22apm1how exactly am i supposed to interpret this
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05:24.42apm1actually i had "alien arena" (its a game) freeze on tty7
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05:24.56apm1and logged in as root
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05:25.24apm1didn't work
05:25.35apm1so i did a "shutdown -P now "
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05:27.01apm1now did i make the right decision or i could have done something else that could have cause a lesser damage if any damage has been caused
05:27.19apm1and secondly what logs except for syslogs and dmesg do i look at
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06:24.31dgriffidoes anyone know how I can extract the stored passwords from a .mozilla directory without first installing the password-exporter plugin?
06:25.02dgriffifirefox went berzerk and now insists I have no plugins and won't let me add any
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06:28.28checkadgriffi: this is not debian related, try using google to find an answer
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07:13.58c0dedso im having issues getting my ipv6 working on my dedi
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07:14.14Dagger2let me guess: OVH?
07:14.25c0dedits obv deb, running deb 6, its an ovh dedicated server, and supposedly it was pre setup
07:14.40c0dedyup Dagger2
07:14.41Dagger2OVH! score one for me
07:14.49c0dedits like if i do ifconfig
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07:14.59Dagger2what are the details OVH give you?
07:15.07SinghSonghi - is it ok to ask a question in here that's not really debian related?
07:15.09c0dedit shows the scope:link and the main subnet ip, the scope:global
07:15.22c0dedand ive added a few ipv6 ips as well to the interfaces file
07:15.24c0dedand it shows them
07:15.25c0dedbut
07:15.32c0dedi cant ping6 ipv6.google.com
07:15.36c0dedso obv something isnt right
07:15.39SinghSongie: it's (ostensibly) a linux quota problem on a shared web-host that is running deb...
07:16.13c0dedmight wanna try #debian-offtopic
07:16.19c0dedDagger2
07:16.26SinghSongI triggered their quota, deleted the huge file that caused the problem, and now I'm way below the quota and still can't create/modify files...
07:16.35c0dedi got this dedi transfered to me, so it wasnt the normal, order, and then get the email with all the info
07:16.47c0dedbut i can show u what i got
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07:18.15c0dedIPv6: 2001:41 d0: 2:2195 :: / 64
07:18.24c0dedthats my ipv6 subnet
07:18.26nkuttlerSinghSong: you should talk to the hoster
07:18.32c0dedill show u the output of ifconfig
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07:19.26c0ded[Dagger2]: here's my eth0 block from ifconfig
07:19.26c0dedeth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr e0:69:95:63:33:d2
07:19.26c0dedinet addr:94.23.xx.xxx Bcast:94.23.xx.xxx Mask:255.255.255.0
07:19.26c0dedinet6 addr: fe80::e269:95ff:fe63:33d2/64 Scope:Link
07:19.26c0dedinet6 addr: 2001:41d0:2:2195::1/64 Scope:Global
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07:19.37c0dederr sry?
07:19.38nkuttler!paste
07:19.38dpkgDo not paste more than 2 lines to this channel.  Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics.  Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB.  Remember to tell us the URL of your paste!  Cannot cut and paste?  Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
07:19.41nkuttler!enter
07:19.42dpkgThe enter key is not a substitute for punctuation.  Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying.  Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead.  If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
07:19.43c0dedoh sry
07:19.43Dagger2that's all I needed
07:19.44c0dedmy bad
07:19.44SinghSongnkuttler: I'm trying to bypass level 1 support now. So far they've said 'yeah, quota reached, need to escalate to admin'
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07:19.55c0dedsry nkuttler, wont happen again
07:20.01Dagger2configure 2001:41d0:2:2195::1/56 (not /64)
07:20.16Dagger2your default router is 2001:41d0:2:21ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
07:20.22c0dedeven though it tells me its /64 everywhere?
07:20.22c0dedyea
07:20.30SinghSongnkuttler: I just wondered if there was somethig like a 'once quota triggered, manual intervention is required to re-allow this user to do stuff' type thing I don't know about.
07:20.32c0dedthats what is being post-up on startup
07:20.39Dagger2you can use addresses in the range 2001:41d0:2:2195:0:0:0:0 to 2001:41d0:2:2195:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff
07:20.48c0dedyea and ive added some
07:20.52c0dedbut i still cant ping6
07:20.57Dagger2yes, even though they tell you /64 everywhere, the network is actually a /56 and has to be configured that way
07:21.16c0dedk 1 sec let me get my interfaces file to confirm i understand
07:21.21SinghSongnkuttler: like, within debian and/or quota config, rather than something in the way the webhost has set their stuff up.
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07:24.56c0dedDagger2
07:25.19c0dedso this is my inet6 static block from my /etc/network/interfaces file:
07:25.21c0dedhttp://paste.debian.net/hidden/b3e85bff/
07:25.42c0dedu can see the 1st 2 post-up and pre-down are for teh gateway
07:25.52c0dedand then i added 3 ipv6 ips
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07:26.52c0dedso are u saying all i gotta do is change the "netmask 64" to "netmask 56" and then all the /64 to /56 on the ips i added?
07:26.57c0dedor just on the ips?
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07:27.05c0dedor what
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07:27.48c0dedim guessing just maybe the "netmask 64" to "netmask 56" since u said to do it on the main ip
07:27.56c0dedas my router is setup how u said already
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07:28.14Dagger2pretty much that, and remove the "post-up /sbin/ip -f inet6 route add 2001:41D0:2:21ff:ff:ff:ff:ff dev eth0" and "pre-down /sbin/ip -f inet6 route del 2001:41D0:2:21ff:ff:ff:ff:ff dev eth0" lines
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07:28.24Dagger2also you can drop the "-f inet6", it's useless
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07:29.08JahmCan anyone help me with this: http://paste.debian.net/246579
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07:29.18c0dedso just leave these ones for the gateway Dagger2?
07:29.19c0dedpost-up /sbin/ip -f inet6 route add default via 2001:41D0:2:21ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
07:29.19c0dedpre-down /sbin/ip -f inet6 route del default via 2001:41D0:2:21ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
07:29.33c0dedonly 2 lines is ok nkuttler right?
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07:30.27c0dedalso Dagger2, remove the "-f inet6" on ALL the lines i got there?
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07:30.37SinghSonghah! I fixed it.
07:30.40c0dedthats not needed since its ipv6?
07:30.58SinghSongcopying /dev/null to the location of the file instead of deleting the file.
07:31.05SinghSongsomething about 'copy-on-write' filesystems.
07:31.07SinghSonghmph.
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07:31.38Dagger2c0ded: it's not needed because "2001:41d0:2:2195::xyz" is obviously v6
07:31.50Dagger2c0ded: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/883053fd/ should work fine
07:31.54c0dedyea obv, i just didnt know it worked that way
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07:32.26c0dedinterestiing, ok
07:32.38c0dedim gonna back mine up, since it loads fine at least, and ill copy urs
07:32.40c0dedrestart my net
07:32.44c0dedand report back in a min
07:32.47c0dedtyvm for ur help
07:32.56c0dedits the most direct answers ive found about this
07:33.00c0dedcuz of teh whole ovh shit
07:33.22c0dedim guessing the 56 shit is the issue , why i couldnt find a proper bit of info on how to sort it lol
07:33.23Dagger2c0ded: "OVH shit" is so true
07:33.38c0dedwell in general i know what u mean
07:33.38Dagger2I only know any of this because so many other people have had trouble with it :/
07:33.43c0dedbut some of their resellers
07:33.47c0dedoffer great dedis
07:33.50c0dedat great prices
07:33.59c0dedand they're very stable, great specs, great bw
07:34.01c0dedits just
07:34.05c0deda place like kimsufi
07:34.11c0dedu get shit support
07:34.17c0dedeverything else is great, but support is shit
07:34.18c0dedlol
07:34.32c0dedyea its deff lame Dagger2
07:34.37c0dedbut im a fan of kimsufi
07:34.42Dagger2kimsufi are the same people as OVH
07:34.45c0dedas far as getting dedis in general
07:34.47c0dedyea i know
07:34.48c0dedwell
07:34.52c0dedits a reseller of ovh
07:34.54c0dedthe main one
07:35.00c0dedcuz its based outta the same place
07:35.07c0dedbut they got great dedis for good prices
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07:35.09c0dedjust shit support
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07:35.20c0dedso if u can get by doing everything urself, its a great deal
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07:35.30c0dedthis was the 1st time ive had an issue i needed help with
07:35.35c0dedlike thats ovh related
07:35.41c0dedanyways, kk, gonna test that
07:35.43c0dedim excited hehe
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07:39.33c0dederr Dagger2, im guessing caps dont matter in an ipv6 ip ?
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07:39.40c0dedlike its not case sensitive is it?
07:39.43Dagger2nope
07:39.50c0dedword
07:39.54Dagger2lower-case is canonical and looks nicer, but other than that
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07:40.23c0dedi just asked
07:40.40c0dedcuz i noticed ur writeup of mine, u made the d lower case when it was upper case from the ovh setup
07:40.47c0dedso just making sure it didnt matter :P
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07:41.28JahmWhy can't I install gcc-4.3 in my Deb
07:41.29Jahm?
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07:43.31themilldpkg: tell Jahm about errors
07:43.40themillJahm: also -- what are you trying to achieve here?
07:43.43Dagger2c0ded: mixed-case annoys me, and upper case is ugly :p
07:44.00Dagger2c0ded: I'm not getting much in the way of ping responses back from 2001:41d0:2:2195::1
07:44.02c0dedagreed
07:44.11c0dedi havent finished
07:44.22c0dedi was playing with the debian paste site for a min :x
07:44.24c0dedlol
07:44.27c0dedhadnt used it before
07:44.29c0dedi like it
07:44.38c0dedim about to save the interfaces file and reload the net
07:44.59Jahmthemill: so I just installed a fresh Debian 6 in a laptop
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07:47.11c0dedhmm
07:47.17c0dedDagger2
07:47.21c0dedsomething isnt right
07:47.21c0dedPING ipv6.google.com(par03s02-in-x13.1e100.net) 56 data bytes
07:47.21c0dedFrom 2001:41d0:2:2195:abcd:abcd:abcd:abcd icmp_seq=4 Destination unreachable: Address unreachable
07:47.29c0dedstill no love from pings
07:47.38c0dedits exactly how u had it
07:47.48c0dedill paste if u wanna double chk
07:47.49Jahmthemill: http://pastebin.com/ANjwhx5R
07:47.54c0ded*pastebin
07:48.11c0dedthough
07:48.17c0dedwhen i do the net reload
07:48.20themillJahm: can you pastebin your sources.list and the output of "apt-cache policy gcc-4.3; apt-cache policy" for me?
07:48.21c0dedi get this
07:48.36c0dedi pasted it in pm to u Dagger2
07:48.40c0dedjust cuz it was 4 lines
07:48.56Dagger2c0ded: might have to reboot... or at least manually clean up the old config
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07:49.25c0dedthe /etc/network/interfaces file ?
07:49.31c0dedcuz i edited it by hand with nano
07:49.33Dagger2the live config
07:49.37Dagger2with ip addr del/ip route del
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07:50.13c0dedi thought thats what u just gave me to replace my inet6 static block in the interfaces file ?
07:50.30c0dedwhere's this other config file?
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07:51.05Jahmthemill: http://pastebin.com/X88p6Fy6 for sources.list
07:51.15Dagger2you need to remove the addresses/routes you have on the system at the moment
07:51.48c0dedlike, wouldnt a reboot do that with the new interfaces file how it is?
07:51.56Dagger2yes
07:51.57c0dedor is there another file i should edit by hand 1st?
07:52.00c0dedkk
07:52.02c0dedalso
07:52.05c0dedhere's ifconfig now
07:52.18c0dedpm
07:52.19c0dedtell me if that looks right at least
07:52.33c0dedstill has the scope:link at /64
07:52.49c0dedidk if thats how it should be or if its cuz it needs a reboot or what
07:53.00c0dedbut ill just login to my ovh manager and reboot the dedi right now
07:53.05c0dedand see what happens after that
07:53.23Jahmthemill: http://pastebin.com/0UqJ93ve for apt-cache policy gcc4.3 and http://pastebin.com/vwzC7Xzz for apt-cache policy
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07:54.08Dagger2that looks ok, actually
07:54.15themilldpkg: tell Jahm about make squeeze souces.list
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07:54.20Dagger2/64 on the fe80:: address it's fine, that's the right netmask for it
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07:54.46JahmThere's no message
07:54.48themillJahm: the installer didn't have a network connection during installation or you chose not to have a mirror enabled -- you need to edit your sources.list to include a mirror using the details that dpkg provided.
07:54.57themilldpkg: tell Jahm about make squeeze sources.list
07:55.02JahmThanks
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07:59.30Jahmthemill: so what about Kernel Headers 2.6.32-5-amd64
07:59.55JahmWill it work with these three inside my sources.list?
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08:08.26ledestinI've just had a BD coaster and I've put a known good disc into drive and can't dvd+rw-mediainfo: :-( unable to INQUIRY: Input/output error
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08:08.38ledestinanything but reboot?
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08:20.31bratnerhi! i'm trying to debootstrap to an LV on a remote machine. getting this: E: no /usr/share/debootstrap/devices.tar.gz. cannot create device. anyone seen this before?
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08:23.53babilenbratner: What does "dpkg -l debootstrap" give you?
08:24.16ledestinwell, reboot did help
08:26.28bratnerbabilen, you are right it was broken. fixed it and now seems working. thanks!
08:26.59babilenbratner: So, what was it? And which version /did/ you use?
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08:27.51b0lteww. reboots :/
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08:28.28bratnerbabilen, i'm bootstrapping from ubuntu. seems that someone tried to install debootstrap from source and failed. so i just install the ubuntu package.
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08:30.39babilenbratner: I'd also recommend #ubuntu in that case - I have no idea what they do to their debootstrap package.
08:31.18pats_Tomsis there any cloud irc client? I want to get chat 24/7 but read it only when I have client started. Any ideas?
08:31.32JahmWhat is libcanberra-gtk-module?
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08:35.03w|tpats_Toms: what about a bnc?
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08:36.49pats_Tomsw|t, looks something what I need. Can I get it working with hexchat?
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08:38.17w|tpats_Toms: yeah of course. znc is pretty much "invisible"
08:38.26w|tif you have a vps you can set it up
08:38.37pats_Tomsyes, I have vps with debian 6
08:38.51w|ttry installing it
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08:39.09pats_TomsI really can´t understand from where to start
08:39.22w|t# apt-get install znc
08:39.38pats_Tomsoh, znc is that irc bouncer
08:39.42pats_Tomsok, wil check right now
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08:41.41FloJpghi guys, i need your advices... I've a W$ 2003 server and 2 workstations with XP Pro... to solve network latency issues, i'd like to setup mirrors of a ~20 Gb directory on each workstation & server... what is the best solution : unison or rsync ?
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08:42.53FloJpgfyi, i've plenty of non-friendly users that creating directories with specials caracters in directory names ( #,.-°¤)
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08:45.03c0ded[01:39:26am] w|t: # apt-get install znc
08:45.03c0ded[01:39:41am] pats_Toms: oh, znc is that irc bouncer
08:45.03c0ded[01:39:46am] pats_Toms: ok, wil check right now
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08:45.13c0dedid suggest installing from tarball
08:45.23c0dedthe one in the repos is old
08:45.43pats_Tomsseems like this is not problem for me
08:45.50pats_TomsI just want to get it working
08:46.05w|tc0ded's suggestion is good if you want to get the latest
08:46.17c0dedits just the old one that it has in apt-get
08:46.20w|tyou probably might want to try unless you don't really care
08:46.21c0dedis so old it does shit diff
08:46.35c0dedand not as good as the newest one
08:46.48c0ded1.0 has been the current one for a long time cuz its really good and setup nice
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08:46.55c0dedthere was 1 thing that was a deal breaker for me
08:46.59c0dedi wouldnt care that much either
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08:47.26c0dedcant remember what it was off teh top of my head
08:47.35c0dedbut idk, id just install from tarball
08:47.38c0ded1.0 is awesome
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08:47.42c0dedand its not hard or anything
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08:48.46pats_Toms"Would you like to keep buffers after replay?"
08:48.50pats_Tomswhat really this means?
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08:49.00w|ti think that's when you quit the bn
08:49.03w|tc
08:49.07w|twhen you come back, do you want the old backlogs
08:49.09w|ti might be wrong though
08:49.17c0dedwhen u reconnect to ur znc
08:49.25c0dedit shows X amount of lines of the buffer from the channel
08:49.34c0deddefault clears it i think
08:49.41pats_Tomsoh, seems like I want it
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08:50.02c0dedjust depends on if u care to see the last like 50lines from the channels buffer when u reconnect to ur znc
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08:51.56JahmI have a NAS, and I want my Deb to connect to the network drives
08:52.00JahmHow can I achieve it?
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09:04.11laricohey guys, i've got a little problem and I don't know the good way to fix it. I installed bind9 but I don't use the layout provided by debian, I only use the binaries.
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09:04.22Slydderhey all. I was wondering if anyone has heard of a project similar to the proxmox pve-manager. specifically pvemirror and pvetunnel.
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09:07.26laricoUpon upgrades, I don't want my bind daemon to shutdown/start
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09:08.38laricobecause upon upgrades, the wrong initscript is used
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09:08.45ledestinlarico: well, chmod -x
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09:09.24ledestinlarico: not 100% sure, but worth trying
09:09.45laricoledestin, but I think the debian packages scripts will chmod +x init anyway, isn't it ?
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09:09.49larico*it
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09:10.37ledestinlarico: maybe not
09:10.39Valhi
09:10.49laricoit's a bit awkward to explain... in fact I tried to use a custom initscript that provides "bind9" but then I'm getting some conflict later
09:10.51txomonhi, why is rpcbind installed by default?
09:11.06txomonor at least, why is it launched automatically?
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09:12.47ValSomeone using LXC on Debian ? Does anybody know if a working debian template for next stable release will be available ?
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09:14.27heyyyhmm
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09:15.05ledestinlarico: you can --reinstall package to test that
09:15.34babilenlarico: Did you replace the original init script with something else in the past? (sorry, missed the story)
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09:15.46ptiaotiaerwhat to do with "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found"? (using freenx btw)
09:15.50laricoledestin, yeah I will.
09:15.52pats_Tomsw|t, you still here?
09:16.02laricobabilen: yes I did that in the past but it never worked
09:16.09babilendpkg: tell larico -about confnew
09:16.27laricohehe babilen :)
09:16.36babilenlarico: The packaging system might treat it as "do not touch, the system administrator knows what (s)he's doing"
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09:17.10babilenptiaotiaer: freenx has been packaged?
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09:17.14bluesmAre changes in /etc/host are immediately applyed ?
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09:17.20bluesm*applied ?
09:17.23babilenyes
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09:17.46laricobabilen, yeah I exactly know what I'm doing. thanks for the tip, 'im gonna look into that
09:17.47babilenbluesm: Well, no idea. There is no /etc/host :)
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09:18.04bluesmbabilen: hosts.
09:18.08ptiaotiaerbabilen, idk, I installed it from source
09:18.09babilenbluesm: then yes
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09:18.27laricoconfnew or confold ?
09:18.30babilenptiaotiaer: Well, it is not.
09:18.35laricoprolly old
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09:18.44bluesmbabilen: Browsers don't have some kind of cache of dns ?
09:18.51babilenlarico: What do you want to achieve?
09:19.25laricoI want to provide my own custom bind9 initscript and that debian will never try to overwrite it
09:19.30babilenbluesm: They might preload certain DNS entries (e.g. pro-active name resolution for all hosts that are mentioned on a web page)
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09:19.50babilenlarico: That is the default behavior if you replace the file
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09:20.32babilenbluesm: But test whatever you are testing on the command line (e.g. nslookup and/or dig)
09:20.41laricoah OK, that's because I made a initscript with a different name
09:21.13laricook don't waste your time, I'll sort it out thanks for your help :)
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09:23.10babilenlarico: Ok ... but what is wrong with the original name?
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09:23.29babilenlarico: Seriously, you shouldn't really have to fiddle with this. But then: Good luck!
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09:24.57laricobabilen, i just realised I did some stupid mistakes here and I didn't want to give you the burden on my behalf that's all :)
09:26.14ptiaotiaerhow do I enable ESD on lenny?
09:27.53babilenlarico: Ok. Thanks, I guess :) -- Have fun untying the knot.
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09:30.56ptiaotiaerHow to check which version o debian I run?
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09:31.43babilenptiaotiaer: "cat /etc/debian_version" and "find /etc/apt -name '*.list' -printf "\n:\n" -exec cat {} \;" → http://paste.debian.net
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09:33.09bluesmIs https could prevent dns spoofing ?
09:33.11ptiaotiaerversion 6
09:33.23ptiaotiaeris that lenny?
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09:33.35bluesmI mean what if somebody just change me /etc/hosts   ?
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09:36.51ptiaotiaerok , it is squeeze.
09:37.09ptiaotiaernow before in lenny ESD worked. What is wrong now that it doesn't in squeeze?
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09:39.19babilenptiaotiaer: long obsolete, use pulseaudio
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09:40.11ptiaotiaerbabilen, wrong answer.
09:40.19babilenHow so?
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09:40.41ptiaotiaerI want to know how to use ESD
09:40.56babilenNo, you don't want to. ESD is *dead*
09:41.26ptiaotiaerbabilen, if it worked on lenny how can it be dead? squeeze broke it?
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09:42.54babilenptiaotiaer: It has not been maintained for five years. You really don't want to use it. If you are interested in computer archaeology I wish you all the best, but I have no interest in reviving corpses this morning.
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09:46.42brenda_what is the package name for sun java jre?
09:46.46JahmMy Debian has no sound. Please help me
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09:48.12caravelbrenda_: you can search packages using eg. apt-cache search [...]
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09:48.56kimspindeland then use grep on top of that if you want to narrow the results down
09:49.59babilenbrenda_: Don't use it. Debian is not allowed to distribute recent versions anymore and you /really/ want decent security support. Just install default-jre or the equivalent openjdk package. OpenJDK 7 is even the reference implementation for 7
09:50.11brenda_sorry im new to this :/
09:50.18babilendpkg: tell brenda_ about install java
09:50.48caravelhad someone had the door :) [...] ^^ babilen -> OpenJDK
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09:51.14JahmHah
09:51.20JahmBoth of my audio and wifi is not working
09:51.40IridosI wonder if that is sufficient for ELSTER
09:51.51caravelbrenda_: sidenote, Sun was acquired by Oracle years ago (hence the "proprietary" version is now "Oracle Java")
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09:52.46babilenAnd fwiw, Oracle also completely dropped support for 6, so there is /absolutely no reason/ to use it anymore.
09:53.01caraveloh, didn't know that yet
09:53.27babilenThe OpenJDK people are still maintaining 6 and will continue to do so and they provide the reference implementation for everything newer.
09:53.30caravelseen latest 6 updates not so long ago (?)
09:54.03caravel(immediately after this new year fiasco)
09:54.13caravelanyway
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09:54.19caravelJahm: sound and wiki devices are most likely PCI devices
09:54.32caravelso you might want to start identifying them by using eg. lspci
09:54.40caravelwifi*
09:54.44babilencaravel: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html
09:55.05nevynwiki devices?
09:55.09nevynah
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09:55.34nevyncaravel: often usb too now.
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09:55.47babilenbrenda_: So, in short: Just install the default-jre package and you should be fine.
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09:58.27caravelyes nevyn -- lag here :) Jahm, if your wifi adapter is some usb dongle, then use lsusb
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09:58.50caravelbabilen: thanks (and I was taking your word on this :p)
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09:59.28babilen:)
09:59.36caravel(43 was in Feb I think, I didn't know it would be last)
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10:02.34caravelJahm: finally, some laptop "built-in" hardware might be internally connected by usb too (typically webcams, don't recall seeing internal usb sound or wifi devices myself thou, yet)
10:02.54caravelanyway, lspci and lsusb should pretty much list them all
10:03.05Jahmcaravel:
10:03.20JahmIt's a pci
10:03.26JahmRealtek RTL8723AE
10:03.27caravelonce you have identified your hardware, it's easier to search for other user reports/bugs about them
10:03.46JahmWait gonna get my machine
10:04.00caravelgood, so you can search exactly that + debian then :)
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10:04.14fdisktroubleI have a encrypted partition set up by the debian installer. When i try to recreate (or shrink) this partition using fdisk, i am unable to align the starting sectors properly. See http://pastebin.com/aYvVQP5B , can anyone help me with this?
10:04.41Jahmcaravel: yeah done that
10:04.47JahmIz not working
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10:10.46caravelfdisktrouble: this is FAQ 2.13 here: https://code.google.com/p/cryptsetup/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
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10:13.06caravelJahm: upstream home for your device should be http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/rtl819x
10:13.43JahmSorry, come again?
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10:13.48JahmIn layman's term please
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10:15.43firewhen will be systemd will be introduced  ?
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10:17.00MO_Handessame machine, same issue, described in this article first paragraph, any solutions to that? ( http://slaeshjag.org/?viewpost=36 )
10:17.22caravelJahm: anyway - you might want to search the string "rtl" in your kernel messages
10:18.09caravelthat should show you what's happening
10:18.23caraveleg. dmesg | grep rtl
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10:20.19unr3al011hey
10:20.38unr3al011petn-randall: hey ;) u remember me? :P
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10:21.46caravelJahm: ("upstream" designates whoever develops the original source code which is later integrated in a distro, and in this case "rtlwifi" seems hosted at sourceforge, as I found out following linuxwireless pages)
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10:22.12Jahmcaravel: thanks bunch man
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10:22.48JahmFollowed this: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://wiki.bandaancha.st/Realtek_RTL8723AE_Wireless_LAN_802.11n_PCI-E_NIC&prev=/search%3Fq%3Drtl8723ae%2Bdebian%2Blinux%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den&sa=X&ei=YLFaUfe5HIeUiQey6IBo&ved=0CDUQ7gEwAA
10:22.58unr3al011my application does alot of http requests and my bandwith is not used more than ~10-15%. i have 64mbt connection (8000kb/s downstream) and it is only used ~ 1000kb/s when running alot of http requests
10:23.08unr3al011how can i increase tcp connection limit to use my full bandwith?
10:26.02koollmanunr3al011: what makes you think bandwidth, or tcp, is the problem ? Is the http server fast enough to handle your requests ?
10:26.04b0ltunr3al011: are you sure the tcp connection limit is the problem? how many connections are you running?
10:26.23unr3al011i connect to different remote hosts
10:26.38unr3al011how can i exactly measure how much tpc connections are open?
10:26.48unr3al011i only look in my firewall and it is alot
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10:27.12b0ltunr3al011: and you're sure "your filewall" is not stopping you?
10:27.21unr3al011i use firestarter as firewall
10:27.31unr3al011i enabled it and disabled it, no difference
10:27.57caravelJahm: that's kinda risky :)
10:28.01unr3al011i also did a couple of sysctl changes, but nothing happens
10:28.05b0ltwell if all you're going by is that you have a lot of tcp connections open, it sounds like you need to investigate more
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10:28.20unr3al011sorry? what do you mean?
10:28.23caravelJahm: Google translate capitalize stuff and removes spaces in the step-by-step commands
10:28.24b0ltnetstat will show you active connections btw
10:28.28Jahmcaravel: I was able to complete it though
10:28.36caravelJahm: hope you followed the original spanish then ?
10:28.40b0ltunr3al011: you're asking how to increase a limit you have no idea if you're hitting. that's what i mean
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10:28.42JahmBut still not working
10:28.46Jahmcaravel: yes.
10:28.53unr3al011mhh...
10:29.03unr3al011sounds reasonable :D
10:29.45unr3al011ok i will measure it now
10:31.33babilendpkg: tell Jahm -about RTL8723AE
10:32.00unr3al011mhh
10:32.02caravelJahm: right - the given workaround, which consists in building and patching kernel driver sources for this hardware, doesn't shock me.. myself I can't help you further I'm afraid. Did you try Wheezy, which brings more recent kernels and *might* be released as stable pretty soon?
10:32.02unr3al011weird
10:32.03babilenJahm: Just install a newer kernel (e.g. 3.8 from experimental) and make sure that you have the firmware. /DO NOT/ follow those instructions.
10:32.06Jahmbabilen: Kernel 3.8
10:32.07Jahm:\
10:32.27babilenJahm: Why does that make you sad? Could you elaborate on that?
10:32.40caravelshuts up, then :)
10:32.44JahmNothing
10:32.48babilenfire: What do you mean? systemd has been packaged in Debian and is supported.
10:32.50JahmThanks both of you
10:32.50unr3al011b0lt: its increasing slowly. now after 2 minutes there are ~ 1200 tcp connections open and still rising. but used bandwith is really really low
10:33.21unr3al011my sysctl config: http://www.pastie.org/private/xfdrfhfpdsatlhnnphqxrw
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10:33.31firebabilen: that's great.. last time i checked it was about to use.
10:33.44babilenjudd: v systemd
10:33.46juddPackage: systemd on i386 -- sid: 44-11; wheezy: 44-11
10:33.53babilendpkg: tell fire -about systemd
10:34.05JahmAre there any distro that are stable in 3.8?
10:34.11babilenfire: Well, you want to use wheezy :)
10:34.27firebabilen: :)
10:34.39babilenJahm: I doubt it -- But Debian provides packages for 3.8. Which version of Debian are you using right now?
10:34.48caravelbabilen: out of curiosity, why do you discourage such instructions? I've been building and patching eg. my webcam module here for years
10:34.50JahmSqueeze
10:34.59Jahmbabilen: 6
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10:35.10firebabilen: thanks for that info :)
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10:35.40Jahmpetn-randall: told me to update to Wheezy
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10:35.48JahmOr something like that
10:35.57babilenJahm: It should be okay to install the 3.8 kernel from experimental on squeeze, but I have only tested it on wheezy. If you have hardware that is that new you probably need newer software anyway ... Any particular reason why you use squeeze and not wheezy?
10:36.29MO_Handessame machine, same issue, described in this article first paragraph, any solutions to that? ( http://slaeshjag.org/?viewpost=36 )
10:36.30JahmThis is what I downloaded
10:36.36JahmFrom the site via torrent
10:36.40babilenJahm: Yes, I would upgrade to wheezy in your case. But you /still/ have to install the kernel from experimental. It should work on squeeze, but I have not tested that. (and won't promise anything)
10:36.46babilenJahm: Ah, when did you install it?
10:36.53unr3al011b0lt: i ran 5000 http requests to my remote root server powered with 100mbit. and my maximum throughput was 1500kb/s
10:36.55JahmI didn't see any option to select Wheezy or Squeeze
10:37.00Jahmbabilen: just a while ago
10:37.09babilendpkg: tell Jahm -about wheezy release notes
10:37.15babilendpkg: tell Jahm -about install wheezy
10:37.23babilendpkg: tell Jahm -about firmware images wheezy
10:37.40Jahmbabilen: which one did you use to upgrade your kernel to 3.8?
10:37.49caravelJahm: (Squeeze is still the stable release, but Wheezy is getting close (that's why you were offered Squeeze by default)
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10:38.11babilenJahm: The release notes discuss how you can upgrade to wheezy. Some bugs that prevent us from releasing wheezy are specific to the upgrade path though and it might be easier/faster to simply install wheezy from scratch. (if you haven't tinkered with your system too much)
10:38.16Jahmcaravel: yah I figured
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10:38.44babilenJahm: The 3.8 kernel is in experimental. (the package is linux-image-3.8-trunk-amd64)
10:39.02JahmAhh I see
10:39.12unr3al011mhh :|
10:39.14babilendpkg: tell Jahm -about experimental
10:39.16JahmHow about using a WiFi dongle?
10:39.29babilenWhat about it?
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10:39.37JahmWill it make me connect to the internet via wifi?
10:39.47JahmOr I'll still be needing driver?
10:40.13babilenJahm: fwiw, I would recommend to upgrade to wheezy regardless of your problems with your internal wifi card. It is quite likely that other bits of hardware also require a newer kernel and/or newer software (such as Xorg)
10:40.17caravelJahm: in all cases, for your current driver, it would make much sense anyway to test later kernels at least (hence why I had suggested Wheezy, while babilen seems to know much more about the fact you'll still need even later kernels from "experimental")
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10:40.27unr3al011nobody can help with my tcp throughput problem?
10:40.40babilendpkg: RTL8723AE
10:40.41dpkgRealtek RTL8723AE-based PCIe wireless LAN devices (PCI ID 10ec:8723) are supported by the rtl8723ae Linux kernel driver introduced in Linux 3.8.  Firmware from userspace is required (rtlwifi/rtl8723fw.bin, rtlwifi/rtl8723fw_B.bin), ask me about <linux-firmware>.
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10:40.59JahmThanks
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10:41.14babilenunr3al011: Only if you actually ask a question. (see "/msg dpkg smart questions" and read http://mattgemmell.com/2008/12/08/what-have-you-tried/ )
10:41.18JahmSo gonna upgrade to Wheezy then
10:41.25babilenunr3al011: You might also want ##networking or a related channel.
10:41.38caravelbrilliant dpkg :)
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10:45.43unr3al011babilen:  you got 5 minutes time so i can explain my problem to you?
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10:47.41babilenunr3al011: Explain it to the channel -- I'll be afk for a while.
10:48.02babilenunr3al011: Or write to the debian-user mailing list or something else :)
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10:50.36unr3al011i make thousands of http requests to my dedicated server (100mbit connection)
10:50.36unr3al011my local pc is making these requests(64mbit connection)
10:50.37unr3al011i use node.js to run all these requests (http://pastie.org/private/jwtdv1j7tphklg8fel3w), but my network throughput is very low @ ~ 1500kb/s. sysctl: http://www.pastie.org/private/xfdrfhfpdsatlhnnphqxrw ulimit -a : http://pastie.org/private/pmben3awcwpmafpig8agja
10:51.36MO_HandesI'm looking for a file name 50-synaptics ? where is it located?
10:52.34ChrisHunr3al011: I would do an initial test using ftp as this is a low overhead transport protocoll
10:52.52unr3al011if i download something i get up to 8000kb/s
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10:53.36unr3al011if you mean that
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10:54.23ChrisHunr3al011: and upload?
10:54.34unr3al011up to 5mb/s
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10:54.48ChrisHunr3al011: and that throughput is as expected?
10:55.04unr3al011mh i thought it depends on my downstream
10:55.09unr3al011not on my upload
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10:56.32ChrisHunr3al011: First Question is the ftp performance of your server OK using ftp? Yes or No?
10:57.12unr3al011yes
10:58.20unr3al011but i have to add something: for real, my requests are not made to my remote server, but to thousand different remote servers. but i try with my remote server now to check if it is a bandwith problem of the remote servers
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10:59.29ChrisHunr3al011: OK. I am no node.js programmer but it looks like you open a TCP connection send a few bytes and close the connections. Is that true?
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11:00.04unr3al011yes i open 5k connections in a loop
11:00.08histoMO_Handes: probably in /etc but you can locate 50-synaptics
11:00.19unr3al011getting the html body and closing the connection
11:00.26unr3al011i also tried keep alive
11:00.29unr3al011but there is no difference
11:00.37histoMO_Handes: yes locate show is /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf
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11:02.16MO_Handesty histo ;)
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11:21.08ChrisHI do not get mediawiki to work on wheezy, apt-get install mediawiki-extensions mediawiki   and I do not see who mediawiki gets integrated into apache2 config. On my Lenny box this worked without any manual interaction, IIRC it's a time ago.
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11:40.15psiklopsHi. I installed Wheezy the otherday and have dash as default Shell. I need to set /bin/bash as default. Will # chsh   to /bin/bash  do the trick for all users ?
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11:41.18petn-randallpsiklops: Wrong solution. You don't want /bin/sh pointing to /bin/bash.
11:41.46petn-randallpsiklops: Because that'll make all init scripts and cron jobs run slower and consume more memory.
11:42.07petn-randallpsiklops: If you want to change it for login users, use chsh to change their default shell.
11:42.08psiklopspetn-randall, i want to build LFS inside schroot and it needs to have /bin/bash instead of dash
11:42.21nullby7etext vision in debian.org is changed
11:42.46psiklopspetn-randall, so i just change for each session ?
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11:44.18Iridospetn-randall, chsh won't change the soft-link, but change shell for the current user?
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11:44.27LoCoZeNoz_ZUEI forgot who i was talking with yesterday. But thank you very much. New kernel also (exept USB) solved not working audio, overheat (alittle) and now gonna try SD slot that didnt work!
11:44.44Iridospetn-randall, I mean... he suggested chsh himself :P
11:44.51psiklopsLoCoZeNoz_ZUE, koool :-)
11:45.28LoCoZeNoz_ZUEYeah, wheezy seems more stable than squeeze.
11:45.35LoCoZeNoz_ZUEWhy isnt it stable yet?
11:46.02LoCoZeNoz_ZUEFor example: In squeeze you got assaultcube-data but not assaultcube it self (amd64)
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11:46.28LoCoZeNoz_ZUE2. Squeeze doesnt work with most of hardware
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11:46.59LoCoZeNoz_ZUEAnd if it works, then it works the usual "do this to make this work" way
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11:47.29Iridospsiklops, chsh should work for existing users... I suppose you add new ones with "adduser", there the default is set in /etc/adduser.conf
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11:52.11psiklopsIridos, i think i got it ;-)
11:52.23psiklopsThanx for the support!!
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11:54.08Iridos\o/
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11:58.09petn-randallLoCoZeNoz_ZUE: Stop repeating this stuff. assaultcube-data is arch all, assaultcube is i386 only, that's why. It's non-free, so there's nothing we can do about it.
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11:59.35LoCoZeNoz_ZUEYeah, but why wheezy does?
11:59.41LoCoZeNoz_ZUEhave amd64 version?
12:00.34petn-randallLoCoZeNoz_ZUE: Probably because the developers released a amd64 version some time after the release of squeeze?
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12:01.20petn-randallLoCoZeNoz_ZUE: If your definition of stable is that non-free package X is available for your architecture, then your definition deviates quite a bit from mine.
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12:04.21LoCoZeNoz_ZUEWell, anyway. Me happy that i am on wheezy.
12:04.41LoCoZeNoz_ZUEis sending rays of happiness to everyone!
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12:05.28histoIs there any efi support for 32bit?
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12:06.12petn-randallhisto: should work just like 64bit.
12:06.43histopetn-randall: I'm having trouble finding documentation on it. It appears wheezy's installer in beta3 got uefi support but only for 64bit
12:07.41petn-randall,versions grub-efi-ia32
12:07.54petn-randallhmpf, judd seams to not work.
12:08.16petn-randallhisto: http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=grub-efi-ia32
12:08.32histopetn-randall: yes but is that built into the installer?
12:08.50petn-randallhisto: I assume so. Try it!
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12:19.05histopetn-randall: Does any one have a 32bit wheezy iso that they can check to see if the EFI stuff is present prior to me wasting the bandwidth?
12:19.18histoDoes any one have a 32bit wheezy iso that they can check to see if the EFI stuff is present prior to me wasting the bandwidth?
12:20.46themillwheezy installers since b3 should support that
12:22.11histothemill: b3 added support for 64bit only
12:22.17histothat's why I ask
12:22.26themill[citation needed]
12:23.05histothemill: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2012/20121018.en.html the "hardware changes" section
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12:25.34histoIs the debian netinst iso a hybrid iso file?
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12:27.46histoAnd I see no EFI files on the 32bit wheezy iso
12:27.55histo:(
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12:38.26babilenhisto: The wheezy RC1 installer (and later ones) /do/ support EFI - and yes they are hybrid
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12:38.33babilendpkg: tell histo -about install wheezy
12:38.40babilendpkg: tell histo -about firmware images wheezy
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12:39.34ledestinwhen I hear distinct reading sound while burning a BD, does it mean some blocks failed to be read?
12:39.47ledestinby defect management
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12:40.22monacoHi there I am trying to load PF firewall but when I use the command kldload there show "Command not found" what should I do to support it on my server ?
12:40.31histobabilen: Well the 32bit cd does nto have efi
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12:40.58histobabilen: I just downloaded and checked myself
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12:44.26ledestinmaybe there's hw channel?
12:44.46JahmWheezy is unpacking
12:44.47JahmWoot
12:44.49histohw channel for who?
12:45.01histoledestin: Are you speaking to me?
12:45.12ledestinhisto: to everybody
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12:45.26histoledestin: md5sum the burned content and confirm that it matches
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12:45.45ledestinhisto: I get coasters
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12:46.02ledestinhisto: would love to know whether it's discs or drive
12:46.09histoledestin: Do you have different media you can try?
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12:46.30ledestinhisto: trying BD-RW now, but all Verbatim
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12:46.56histoledestin: also try changing speed
12:47.04brokencyclehi!
12:47.07ledestinhisto: it's minimal
12:47.55brokencyclei've moved my vm from an i386 to an amd64 machine, and now it does not boot ("no bootable device found").
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12:48.58monacoHi there I am trying to load PF firewall but when I use the command kldload there show "Command not found" what should I do to support it on my server ?
12:49.26rabbiethwhich kldload
12:49.52ledestinbrokencycle: it looks like vm drive problem rather than cpu problem
12:49.59rabbieththe output should be /sbin/kldload
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12:50.41brokencycleledestin: hmmm... i didn't touch the vm itself
12:51.04brokencyclethe drive is marked as "virtio", and the image file has 'raw' format
12:51.42ledestinbrokencycle: I don't have experience with that, sorry
12:52.21brokencycleledestin: thank you for trying, anyway.
12:52.42brokencyclei'm looking for pointers what might have gone wrong. the vm itself is an i386 machine
12:52.45brokencyclethe host is amd64
12:53.32JahmWas it kernel 3.8?
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12:54.59brokencyclejahn? no, i'm on 3.2 for all machines
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12:55.33rabbiethjust realized something
12:55.49rabbiethmonaco: this is #debian. kldload is in #freebsd
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12:56.04monacorabbieth: I am asking how to use it on Debian soo
12:56.22rabbiethmodprobe, rmmod, lsmod and so on
12:56.29angswhen I log in my debian squeeze it always asks me to change the password. I did change it. Then I am trying to send a file through scp but it fails again because of password changing issue http://pastebin.com/TeGX3Twu how can I disable/remove this feature, so that it does not require me to change the passwd?
12:56.51Jahmbabilen: sir are you still there?
12:57.00JahmStill no wifi on kernel 3.2
12:57.03monacorabbieth: I want to use PF firewall on my DEBIAN there is on wiki.debian.com how to but KLD does not work :O and I am asking if anyone here can show me how to do
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12:57.49rabbiethoh, now i get it :)
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12:58.34rabbiethsorry, lack of sleep makes me a bit silly :(
12:58.46monacorabbieth: :) n/p
12:58.49apm1what does one interpret from "0.3% noncontigous sectors" when one finds it as a result for a fsck check for their "/" ?
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13:10.15Walexapm1: the translation in english is "noncontigous sectors are 0.3% of the total"
13:10.28elongurBEND OVER FOR THE KING OF POTATOES
13:11.01apm1Walex, i do know english :) but i have no idea what it actually means ?
13:11.12apm1its jargon for me
13:11.26elongurok
13:11.56apm1i meant "0.3% noncontigous sectors"
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13:12.13apm1that fly straight over my head
13:12.20apm1*flys
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13:13.57elongurhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsZMbs5PC64 so deep
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13:14.48Phil-Workis it possible to hook into the output stream (stdout) of an already running process?
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13:16.05Fabiohi, someone can explain me why stable debian packages are so older?
13:16.21tb01110100Does Debians utilize an fstab?
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13:17.23tb01110100Fabio: Debian plays it safe with older, more stable packages. If you always want the newest versions, try Arch linux.
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13:18.17b0lttb01110100: /etc/fstab
13:18.23tb01110100b0lt: Thanks.
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13:18.29Fabiothank u!
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13:18.45b0ltFabio: debian stable is... stable
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13:19.04Fabiook, i got it
13:19.11JahmHas anyone been with kernel 3.8.2
13:19.13Jahm?
13:19.15b0ltFabio: ask yourself if you really need the cutting edge. also consider backports. also, wheezy is going stable soon. consider if that's new enough for you
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13:19.40Fabiothanks again
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13:21.19babilenJahm: You don't need 3.2 but 3.8 and you have to install that from experimental.
13:21.20LV-426Phil-Work, see this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/249703/how-can-a-process-intercept-stdout-and-stderr-of-another-process-on-linux
13:21.39Phil-Workhmmm
13:22.01Phil-WorkI actually found /proc/<pid>/fd/1 and /proc/<pid>/fd/2
13:22.07Jahmbabilen: how do I update my kernel from 3.2 (Wheezy) to 3.8?
13:22.16Phil-Workwhich seem to be kicking out stdout and stderr respectively
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13:22.35apm1babilen, are you saying that experimental has 3.8 already 0.o
13:23.00babilenJahm: Add something like "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free" to your /etc/apt/sources.list and then run "apt-get -t experimental install linux-image-3.8-trunk-amd64 firmware-linux-nonfree"
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13:23.09babilenapm1: sure
13:23.42babilenapm1: It had 3.8 release candidates for quite a while.
13:23.54apm1babilen, wow so experimental didn't freeze in june ?
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13:24.43Fabiothe answer I was looking for!
13:24.45babilenapm1: wheezy was frozen and that's it. sid/unstable gets <slushy> as a result of that and a bunch of people opt for uploads to experimental for new packages/versions
13:25.09babilendpkg: tell Fabio -about stable
13:25.22Walexapm1: if you don't follow closely the details of Debian archive updates perhaps you should not be using 'experimental' etc. which are for very experienced people to try out potentially broken stuff.
13:25.45apm1i realize that
13:26.25babilenFabio: "stable" in the context of Debian means "not changing" and has very little to do with "working, not buggy, usable" -- We, naturally, try to get work on all bugs before a system has been released, but once it has it /will not change/. That is the entire point of stable. It doesn't change. Even bugs stay the same.
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13:26.44babilenFabio: If you don't want that you might want to run testing or unstable, but stable is .. well .. stable.
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13:26.58WalexBTW even Debian insiders often some kind of confusion between *archives* (sometimes called "distributions") and *releases*
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13:27.14babilenWalex: not to mention suites :)
13:27.19Jahm_babilen: http://paste.debian.net/246646/
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13:27.38ledestinFabio: it's better not to have new bugs on a production system
13:27.46Walexbabilen: suites? Oh well... :-)
13:27.58babilenJahm_: Did you run "apt-get update" after changing your sources.list ?
13:27.59ledestinFabio: I've been there and testing might just break things for you after upgrade
13:28.06angsapt-get install chage cannot change the package, ( I did apt-get update before). why it cannot find it?
13:28.15angshow can I install that package?
13:28.21Jahm_Oh. Didn't
13:28.23Jahm_Silly me
13:28.24Jahm_Sorry
13:28.30ledestinFabio: if you absolutely need new version, you can build it yourself or use backports
13:28.37babilendpkg: tell angs -about bat
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13:29.12Walexand translating a bit <babilen>'s reply to <Fabio>, he was explaining a bit that the 'stable' archive holds different releases at different points in time, but other archives have different policies.
13:30.27Jahm_babilen: what should I do next?
13:31.06babilenJahm_: Run the "apt-get -t experimental ins ..." command again
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13:31.30Jahm_I mean it's already downloading
13:31.30raSter^errr
13:31.32babilenangs: Would it be possible for you to provide that information?
13:31.46Jahm_What to do after downloading it?
13:31.50babilenJahm_: Ah, ok. I guess you have to reboot into that kernel :)
13:32.01Jahm_Thanks bunch
13:32.03babilenJahm_: Or not use your wifi until you do. ;)
13:32.11Jahm_I hope this works now
13:32.16raSter^guys im a newbie to this debian linux thing. can someone tell me why my added user cant even wget a file?
13:32.20babilenJahm_: I would appreciate it if you could let me know if it does :)
13:32.23Fabioso, for a desktop purpose, should I use a more "flexible" distro?!
13:32.24raSter^should i still set privelege on the normal suer?
13:32.29Jahm_Will do babilen
13:32.49babilenraSter^: How did you add that user? What happens if you try to wget a file? Could you paste your command and its output to http://paste.debian.net ?
13:32.55Jahm_Oh so I am the guinea pig :P
13:33.01babilendpkg: tell raSter^ -about general cli tutorial
13:33.08babilendpkg: tell raSter^ -about debian handbook
13:33.13angsbabilen, is it what you want to see http://pastebin.com/Pyewku4K ?
13:33.15WalexFabio: a lot of people find a 'stable' Debian base with 'backports' for the GUI elements a suitable desktop compromise.
13:33.22babilenraSter^: You might want to read those. In particular the handbook is wonderful.
13:33.31raSter^babilen by using the command "useradd"
13:33.37heyyyFabio: Debian is a good OS. try stable and see what you think.
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13:34.12WalexFabio: but the focus of Debian is on stable APIs, so if you install servers and desktops with a given set of binaries you are fairly sure that for a few years upgrades are not going to break them.
13:34.12aguitelis there some repo to install libreoffice 4.0 in stable ?
13:34.12raSter^babilen i chose debian over centos, is it a wise decision? hehe
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13:34.37TheWardenHi
13:34.42babilenFabio: I would recommend to use wheezy for now and use backports. But then, you might prefer testing or unstable. I have no idea how much experience you have and how easy it would be for you to fix grave bugs and how much time you want to invest into maintaining your system. Judging by your questions I would strongly recommend to use wheezy (and wheezy-backports) for now.
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13:35.15Jahm_babilen: there are lots of this line: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-1.fw for module r8169
13:35.18Walexaguitel: You can easily install the '.deb' files that you can get from LibreOffice mirrors. If you want you can build easily your own little local repo with them inside.
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13:35.25Jahm_Similar to that line I mean
13:35.49babilenraSter^: err, you shouldn't really use "useradd" but "adduser" -- The latter is the friendlier front-end to the former and will do a couple of things for you that you would have to do manually if you use useradd.
13:35.54petn-randallI'd like to debug the environment vars set in crontab. I though about doing 'bash export > /tmp/asdf', but you can't start a bash built-in like that. Any ideas?
13:35.58WalexJahm_: if that line perplexes you perhaps you should not be using packages from 'experimental'...
13:35.59aguitelWalex, i did ,but what about updates ?
13:36.10babilenraSter^: (such as choosing good user ids, setting up a home directory and so on)
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13:36.23Walexaguitel: you download them again, and rebuild your local repo indices.
13:36.35raSter^ok sorry
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13:36.54babilenpetn-randall: Can you call env(1) ?
13:37.01raSter^babilen how do i undo those changes? I want do delete the user i made using "useradd" command, and redo everything using "adduser" ?
13:38.02FabioIt was a pleasure talking with competent people, thanks to all
13:38.03JahmDamnit
13:38.03babilenraSter^: No, that's perfectly fine and you shouldn't feel bad for making this mistake. Did you create a home directory for that user or did you do anything else to set it up?
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13:38.07JahmWifi still not working
13:38.07petn-randallbabilen: Good idea, didn't think of that. Thanks!
13:38.12babilenFabio: Have a good day!
13:38.15raSter^babilen in any given circumstances, is my use of "useradd" the main culprit why my user wont even wget a file? Its forbidden. or restricted to do so..
13:38.52raSter^babilen i created a /home/userhere home director for it
13:39.09raSter^i added a folder manually using root on the /home
13:39.14raSter^:D
13:39.15babilenraSter^: I would have to see the exact command and its output. It might very well be, but I am not sure.
13:39.25JahmOh boy
13:39.27Jahm:(
13:39.46raSter^babilen, how come there is a 'adduser' and 'useradd' thats very confusing, i just know of the useradd command via googling.
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13:40.01raSter^i was unfortunate to see adduser as a better alternative
13:40.06babilenraSter^: Ok, we have to undo that too. Try running "deluser --remove-home --remove-all-files USERNAME"
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13:40.31raSter^ok let me do that brb
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13:41.08babilenraSter^: Oh, drop the "--remove-all-files" for now
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13:41.31raSter^why?
13:41.41raSter^i really dont have so many files only a znc file :D
13:41.46raSter^its ok to remove all file
13:41.52raSter^i want to redo it all again
13:42.13babilenraSter^: "adduser" is Debian specific and you can read its manpage with "man 1 adduser" -- It is also discussed in, among many other places, in http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.creating-accounts.html
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13:42.36raSter^thanks
13:42.42babilenraSter^: So, did that work?
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13:42.53raSter^wait not yet. havent entered it yet
13:43.20raSter^oops it outputted many text
13:43.26raSter^its done
13:43.31babilenShow me on http://paste.debian.net please
13:44.07jordanmadduser exists in RHEL, but it's not the same tool
13:44.34raSter^http://paste.debian.net/246656/
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13:45.13raSter^hows that?
13:46.21jordanmwhy did that user own everything in /dev? a chown gone wrong?
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13:46.28raSter^but the jblack folder in /home folder is still there :/
13:46.33petn-randall#AWS_ACCESS_KEY="AKIAIKV57R7U4ZSCRV6A"
13:46.33petn-randall#AWS_SECRET_KEY="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"
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13:46.40petn-randalloh shit
13:47.02babilenraSter^: Didn't I ask you to drop "--remove-all-files" for now?
13:47.03jordanmraSter^, pastebin the output of `mount; cat /proc/mounts`
13:47.14raSter^errr
13:47.34petn-randallThat's why you shouldn't keep stuff in the cut buffer, kids.
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13:48.07babilenraSter^: I shouldn't have mentioned that options and it was a mistake. (which is why I asked you to drop it) -- It should be fine, however, to remove the /home/jblack directory now.
13:48.10raSter^this is a newly install of debian 6 something
13:48.30babilenraSter^: Oh, why did you install squeeze? Is this for your personal use?
13:48.42raSter^whats squeeze?
13:48.46babilenwell, probably because you never heard of wheezy before :)
13:48.49raSter^this is only for personal use
13:48.53raSter^yes
13:49.12raSter^jordanm, ill do that later, i dont know what do you want to find out on mount
13:49.34raSter^babilen tell me, did i do something wrong?
13:49.41raSter^i mean if i put --remove-allfiles"
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13:49.48babilenraSter^: Ok, Debian releases are named after characters in toy story. The current Debian stable release is called "squeeze" and the one thereafter will be "wheezy" -- We are /very close/ to releasing wheezy at this point and I would recommend to install/use that to everyone.
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13:50.09raSter^i see
13:50.27babilenraSter^: You didn't do anything wrong per-se, but the command didn't do what you expected it to do. In particular "--remove-all-files" means that "--remove-home" has no effect. (as you can see) -- sorry for that mistake.
13:50.35raSter^my uname -a states
13:50.36raSter^Linux blackjack 2.6.32-042stab072.10 #1 SMP Wed Jan 16 18:54:05 MSK 2013 i686 GNU/Linux
13:50.39mase76hi! does anybody know, what could be wrong, when a program receives a segfault like 0x0170029a in ?? () ?
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13:50.51babilenraSter^: Is that a virtual machine somewhere?
13:50.52mase76what does ?? mean? i get this with mame on armhf.
13:51.12raSter^yes it is virtual machine sorta
13:51.25raSter^is that a problem?
13:51.44babilenraSter^: I ask because that isn't a normal Debian kernel. No, that shouldn't be a huge problem.
13:52.06raSter^its a vps im trying to learn
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13:52.49penkhi folks - Warning - i just tripped a very very bad security update on my ubuntu hosts, which I suspect comes from debian originally.  The tomcat update that went out last night RE-ENABLES tomcat, and starts it, on hosts that have explicitely disabled it.
13:52.50raSter^so i can easily reinstall the linux OS using either ubuntu/debian/centos
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13:53.10penkso if you have hosts that have tomcat installed, but disabled (vua update-rc.d), I bet they're now running it.
13:53.39babilenraSter^: But to continue now: You can continue using that version right now and it might be a bit tricky for you to upgrade your virtual machine to wheezy anyway. The user should have been removed now and you should just remove the directory /home/jblack ... You can then run "adduser jblack" to configure it again.
13:53.50raSter^babilen: so now all i need is to delete the folder /home/jblack and im good?
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13:54.03raSter^or should i just leave it alone and create another user using adduser ?
13:54.09abrotmanpenk: you'd still take that up with #ubuntu
13:54.28abrotmanpenk: you got the security update from them, it's their package.  They can alter it as they see fit
13:54.29raSter^oh okay
13:54.34babilenraSter^: yeah, is this a box hosted somewhere else or are you running it locally in, say, something like virtualbox?
13:54.34raSter^thanks. brb
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13:55.26raSter^the real problem was babilen doing the useradd style, i seem to have problems installing znc. The user wont event wget to the znc file that i wanted to download. Is that the case when using "useradd" command instead of debians own "adduser" ?
13:55.34abrotmanpenk: on top of which, i don't see a security update for tomcat in Debian in the past3 months
13:55.43raSter^babilen a box i run from somewhere else
13:55.50penkabrotman: this was to patch some CVE logged security issues.  can you see if the debian packages are doing the same thing?
13:55.51babilenmase76: It means that the program crashed which could have all sort of reasons. You would have to provide /much/ more information about your system, the program in question and so on. Use http://paste.debian.net to provide that information (see "/msg dpkg bat" for an inspiration)
13:55.53raSter^its hosted somewhere else
13:56.02penkabrotman: heh.  well that answers that question :)
13:56.06babilenraSter^: yeah, I suspected as much. It's cool ...
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13:56.26abrotmanpenk: to be fair, i don't see one ofr Ubuntu either .. perhaps you are using third party packages ?
13:56.35mase76i am rebuilding with debugging symbols and see...
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13:56.52abrotman(oh, i lie, i see one in January for tomcat for Ubuntu, ask #ubuntu, thanks)
13:57.21penkhttp://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/t/tomcat7/tomcat7_7.0.26-1ubuntu1.2/changelog
13:57.42penk<PROTECTED>
13:57.45penkthat was last night
13:58.04abrotmanis pretty sure March 19th was not last night ...
13:58.08penker
13:58.09penkhm.
13:58.17penkwell, it went into our servers last night!
13:58.19penk:)
13:58.31abrotmanpenk: anyway, off to #ubuntu you go! have a good day
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13:58.58babilen(or #ubuntu-server, but /not/ #debian)
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13:59.09penkyeah, i'm on #ubuntu now.  :)
13:59.13babilenpenk: Feel free to run/use Debian if you want support in here.
13:59.14penkthey're pretty much ignoring me.
13:59.24penki run debian for my own stuff :)
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13:59.50penkmostly i'm tryign to see if this idiocy was rooted in the debian packages or is something ubuntu screwed up.
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14:00.06eth0ghostDebian mini netinstall + imagination = The best =)
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14:00.20abrotmanpenk: the Debian tomcast7 package hasn't changed since Dec 2012 from what I see
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14:00.51penkbleah.  okay.  good that it wasn't a debian maintainer who screwed this up, but bleah that CVE's aren't being patched in debian :)
14:01.11abrotmanpenk: it may not affect a current stable version of tomcat in Debian ..
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14:01.39penkinterestingly, the patch notes saay this is all 'based on upstream patches'.
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14:02.16abrotmananyway, off to #ubuntu with you
14:03.03penk:)
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14:05.35penki emailed the maintainer.
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14:08.36fouhello ... i could use some help. I have a queston....what is the best way to configure a mounted shared fiolder? meaning when i restart it stays connected ?
14:08.55ledestinfou: might be autofs
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14:09.47fouok let me search it
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14:10.17ledestinfou: if you use fstab, if you boot w/o net, you'd have to mount it manually
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14:10.25ledestinfou: not so with autofs
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14:11.11foureally
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14:11.36penkalso note with fstab mounts you could get stuck in a wait mode for the volume on boot.
14:11.38gr8hi. I want to do something very simple: change the time to +1 h. how do I do that?
14:11.45penkman date
14:11.47foui would have install that apo
14:11.49foua
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14:11.53fouapp
14:12.30fouwhat file would i need to configure ?
14:12.39penkfor... autofs?  or fstab?
14:12.41petn-randallgr8: You want to properly configure your time zone, I guess. 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow tzdata' will do that for you.
14:12.53foufor autofs
14:13.00fouoooo auto/smb?
14:13.08fouoooo auto.smb?
14:13.35gr8petn-randall: actually I never understood the need for time zones. there is only one correct time for my system, which I want to set directly.
14:14.15penkfou: google for 'autofs' and check the docs.  looks like /etc/auto.master, but i've neve rused it before.
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14:14.20petn-randallgr8: So you're running UTC?
14:14.31petn-randallfou: the man pages are your friend.
14:14.45gr8petn-randall: no but I know it is 16:14:40 here. that should be enough, right?
14:15.06penkgr8: if you never talk to or interract with files or servers anywhere else in the world, yes, that's correct.
14:15.10foulol ok ... well if you never used it before you just manully mount it penk?
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14:16.03penkgr8: it is almost always a good idea to configure your timezone and clock correctly.  If you don't, you can have some really strange problems with timestamps, and defining "is this file newer than that file."
14:16.04babilengr8: The correct time changes (e.g. daylight saving, timezone redefinition, ...) -- computers can handle changes to this automatically so you don't have to.
14:16.16ksuhkuhi, is there some up-to-date info on the DFSG freeness of CC licenses? (I've seen the Debian wiki page)
14:16.25raSter^babilen now i can use the "adduser" command?
14:16.29raSter^adduser jblack will do?
14:16.44ksuhkuspecifically creative commons by license
14:16.48fouwell thank you for that tip !!! I was trying to find an app for that. what i am trying to do is use plex and have it mount other drives on the network so i can share or streem my media to my devices and friends
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14:17.00babilenraSter^: Read "man 1 adduser", http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.creating-accounts.html and "Yes"
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14:18.20gr8babilen: I don't want it to think about that. thinking is my part, the computer should just do what I say. and when I say "it's 15:00" than that is true. so how do I say that?
14:18.40penkyou configure your timezones correctly :)
14:18.46gr8omg
14:18.55penkyou're already thinking about it.  and in 6 months you'll need to think about it again
14:19.06penkif you want to not think about it, configure it so it automatically updates correctly.
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14:19.24penkif you really want to keep punching yourself in the face, the answer was already given.  'man date'
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14:20.03gr8penk: hmkay
14:20.40gr8that's a clear answer
14:20.43penkyou do realize that won't work properly on reboot, right?  because date is actually set from the hardware clock on the machine.  So you'll need to go into your bios and set the date again.
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14:22.02LoCoZeNoz_ZUEhow to pass several folders to "--exclude" in tar?
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14:22.29penkman tar - you can use an external exclusion list.
14:22.44raSter^babilen thanks. actually this would be my first root linux lesson. lol. i prefer debian (because i really heard its way much better than the other salts)
14:22.54raSter^but really, i have no idea what they mean about it. lol
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14:23.10LoCoZeNoz_ZUEI am customizing my android. Its easyer to include them as argument
14:23.16penk--exclude also takes patterns.  you could also try using multiple --excludes
14:23.27LoCoZeNoz_ZUEhow? comma separated?
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14:23.38penkhave you tried?
14:23.43penkthis is something you'll figure out if you TIAS
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14:24.11penkoh look, the first result on google has an example.  "$ tar -zcvf /tmp/mybackup.tar.gz --exclude='abc' --exclude='xyz' /home/me
14:24.44LoCoZeNoz_ZUEi tryed separate --exclude
14:24.50LoCoZeNoz_ZUEit still tarred them
14:25.03LoCoZeNoz_ZUENope, comma separated doesnt work either
14:25.11LoCoZeNoz_ZUE(i am doing this with busybox tar)
14:25.18fouif still a little confused about how to use autofs
14:25.29angswhy apt-get install chage does not work?
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14:25.54foudo i have to ue the mount command first and then just configure the auto.master with that mounted name ?
14:25.57penkloco: tar uses patterns or exact matches.  you may nee dto put the entire path in the exclude line.
14:27.04LoCoZeNoz_ZUEyeah, i want to tar everything exept: /mnt,/proc,/sys,/d and /dev
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14:27.21LoCoZeNoz_ZUEand put it in /mnt/sdcard/backup.tar
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14:27.27penki'd do inclusions not exclusions.  not much left.
14:27.32LoCoZeNoz_ZUEwith busybox
14:27.54babilenLoCoZeNoz_ZUE: Sorry, we only support Debian in here. Try you ##android, ##linux or other channels
14:28.09LoCoZeNoz_ZUEThere is no busybox
14:28.13LoCoZeNoz_ZUE#busybox
14:28.30heyyygoogle?
14:28.31LoCoZeNoz_ZUEexept....
14:28.46LoCoZeNoz_ZUEwell, ok. i will google it
14:29.46LoCoZeNoz_ZUEwait. exclude doesnt work at all in busybox
14:29.54LoCoZeNoz_ZUE:P
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14:32.31LoCoZeNoz_ZUEok, fixed
14:33.24LoCoZeNoz_ZUEDoes people here help with installing debian on android?
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14:35.21ChrisHfou: still questions on autofs?
14:36.08fouyes please lol
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14:36.56fouso im trying to edit the auto.master file but im a little confused about the way to mount this ....
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14:37.33ChrisHYou need to configure the /etc/auto.master and co and restart automounter using /etc/init.d scripte. then simply cd into the directory you configured.
14:37.35fouok so in the guide im a reading
14:37.43fouthere saying <mount-point> <map-name> <options>
14:37.48ChrisHfou: does this answer your Qeustion?
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14:38.30foulet me try that now lol
14:39.36fouso then where im stuck is configureing the auto.master
14:39.40foufile
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14:40.32ChrisHfou: please show me your auto.master ; /etc/nsswitch.conf , df -h , showmount -e SERVERNAME  on paste.debian.net
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14:44.57fouChrish i posted it ... im still new at this so be easy on me lol
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14:45.41ChrisHfou: you need to tell me the URL you got
14:46.15foui just want to mount the location /192.168.1.18/music
14:46.23fouis that what you mean ?
14:47.11ChrisHfou: no. paste.debian.net shows you a URL whwich I need to know. like http://paste.debian.net/236666/
14:47.23fouhttp://paste.debian.net/246674/
14:47.28fousorry i just woke up lol
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14:49.08fouChrish i think im just not getting the consept ... right now
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14:50.39ChrisHfou: check http://paste.debian.net/246675/  and add auto.master as I showed it. If it does not work, please pastebin showmount -e 192.168.1.18
14:51.39fouok cool
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14:52.17fouand what if i have a password on that location ?
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14:54.52ChrisHfou: password on NFS? There is nothing like password on NFS
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14:55.05fouok
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14:55.52ChrisHfou: its exported or not for that requesting host. everything else is handled on User/Group and filesystem permissions.
14:56.05fouoooo
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15:01.20ChrisHfou: does that mean additional questions? does it work now?
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15:02.05fouyes hold on
15:02.22fouchrish http://paste.debian.net/246684/
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15:03.51ChrisHfou: please add cat /proc/mounts to that paste
15:04.16fouok hold on
15:04.59raSter^babilen: do you have a beginners guide for debian users? I mean, i really havent installed anything yet on my root access. I was lucky enough to browse a site that tells me to install gcc first so that i can continue installing other things
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15:06.12fouchrish http://paste.debian.net/246686/
15:06.19ChrisHraSter^: Are you sure to need gcc on a debian system? apt-get install aptitude ; and then run aptitude search WHAT-ever-you-need
15:06.36raSter^errr
15:06.42raSter^whats aptitude
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15:06.54raSter^when i was installing znc it says i need a gcc compiler
15:07.00raSter^or cc compiler
15:07.05raSter^thats why i googled one
15:07.08raSter^:D
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15:07.17toad_is it guaranteed to be safe (that is, not exiting with an error) to invoke curl with curl --capath /var/empty --cacert my-real-cert-file ... ?
15:07.19raSter^well in away i was able to install it anyhow
15:07.45ChrisHfou: This is not an NFS mount, but cifs/samba. Are you sure your sever can NFS? I never did setup automounter using Samba/cifs.
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15:07.56ChrisHraSter^: why not apt-get install znc ?
15:08.10raSter^errr i was not aware of that
15:08.13raSter^:/
15:08.22raSter^i do things manually
15:08.34raSter^so apt-get <common file here> is the faster way huh?
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15:08.53raSter^is the apt-get idea only for debian or linux in general?
15:08.56ChrisHraSter^: it is not the faster way, its the debian way.
15:09.01fouwell then how to i set it up with autofs ? the shared folder is on a windows box but from scratch how do i do that or i can just auto connect with another debian shared folder
15:09.02raSter^Cool.
15:09.24fouso normaly how would you do it ?
15:09.31fouand i would work around that
15:09.35raSter^ChrisH, so what is aptitude, does it install everything, i want to monitor my box too, like a firewall and other security stuffs
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15:09.46babilendpkg: tell raSter^ -about debian handbook
15:09.54babilendpkg: tell raSter^ -about general cli tutorial
15:10.03raSter^thanks babilen.
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15:10.13raSter^it seems working w/ debian is far way easier
15:10.25babilenraSter^: Just read the handbook (I linked it earlier) -- There is also the Debian reference http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/
15:10.48raSter^babilen what do i need for my debian security?
15:10.59ChrisHraSter^: run apt-cache search bash  ; aptitude search bash ; and compare the output.
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15:12.04babilenraSter^: You run "apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade" or "apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade" every now and then and Debian will install security upgrades. (provided you have security repos in your sources.list -- paste the output of "apt-cache policy" and "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" if you want us to check)
15:12.16ChrisHfou: even it mentions ubuntu, this syntax looks pretty OK http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/56-ubuntu-autofs
15:12.51foui may use fstab to mount it i think
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15:13.02raSter^i actually did that hmmm i remember when i installed gcc
15:13.10fouoooo that may do it lol
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15:13.56ChrisHfou: fstab mounts of cifs/samba is nearly the same work.
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15:14.23foureally! but this seems a little easyer
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15:14.54raSter^0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
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15:15.11kristijonashey, after installing some updates (the system suggest), one of which was google-chrome-stable package "Google Chrome" crashes so often...
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15:15.23raSter^thats using the "apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade"
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15:16.40ChrisHkristijonas: I assume while using flash? I had the same and moved to gnash from adobe-flash and no crashes anylonger.
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15:17.09fouso the crodentioals are in another location ?
15:17.43kristijonasChrisH - I'm pretty sure not. as far as I understand it happens when I click on something on a page that uses Ajax.
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15:18.10ChrisHfou: For Samba/cifs the credentials are checked on the server side. For NFS its only checks IP vs. exports and Filesystem permissions.
15:18.53foummmm ok
15:19.17kristijonasChrisH - when I open a browser I also get a warning: "google chrome has stopped working and no longer supprts this version of your operating system"
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15:19.37kristijonas"has stoppped updating"***
15:20.32MoggetI'm not sure if this is offtopic or not, but how come MariaDB has not been included into Debian?
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15:21.33abrotmanMogget: see the RFP
15:21.51abrotmandpkg: tell Mogget about mariadb
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15:22.28kristijonasI must not be the only one that has issues with Chrome after the update.
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15:23.13Moggetabrotman: Thank you.
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15:23.37abrotmansory, ITP, not RFP
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15:25.46MoggetOK, so they never got their packages approved before release. Thank you for info.
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15:28.17ChrisHkristijonas: does it crash? if yes: ulimit -c unlimited ; run crome until it crashes and ask gdb to check the core, then you can ask Mrs. Google for assistance
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15:29.43kristijonasChrisH, I get the error page ""Aw, Snap! Something went wrong while displaying this webpage!""
15:30.40ChrisHkristijonas: stable or testing?
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15:31.35kristijonasChrisH - some days ago, Debian offered me to install google-chrome-stable update, I updated it and then I started to experience this problem.
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15:32.25FilipeMaiaI've had a bad disk on my raid array. I've removed it put in a new disk but the device name disapeared and has not reapeared. Is there a way to tell linux to search for a certain device?
15:33.04jordanmFilipeMaia, hardware RAID? does your RAID controller support hot swapping?
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15:33.08ChrisHFilipeMaia: there is a way, but maybe dmesg show the disk with a new devicefile?
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15:33.16FilipeMaiajordanm: mdadm
15:33.26fouchrish thank you for helping me ... i think i found how to do it
15:33.29jordanmFilipeMaia, does your RAID controller support hot swapping?
15:33.31fouyour the best
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15:33.41FilipeMaiaChrisH: dmesg didn't notice anything when I inserted the new device
15:34.01jordanmFilipeMaia, if this is on board SATA, it probably doesn't. you need to reboot
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15:34.06FilipeMaiajordanm: it's not a RAID controller but yes the hardware supports
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15:34.15FilipeMaiajordanm: I replaced another next to it with no problem
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15:34.29jordanmFilipeMaia, what kind of controller is it?
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15:34.49FilipeMaiajordanm: it's an LSI SAS 9207-8e
15:35.30FilipeMaiajordanm: I think the SCSI layer is confused
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15:36.01germanstudentIs there a podcatcher that saves feed information as file tags (ID3) after downloading the enclosure?
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15:36.26FilipeMaiaLast messages from that device on the kernel are: scsi 0:0:77:0: [sdbw] Result: hostbyte=DID_NO_CONNECT driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
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15:37.52jordanmFilipeMaia, you should be able to scan with lsiutil
15:38.15kristijonasChrisH - i figured out that the version was an issue. the older version works fine, but Synaptic Package Manager tells me to update it to the new version, which doesn't work
15:38.29jordanmI haven't really worked with those cards or that utility though
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15:39.05FilipeMaiaI'll give a try
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15:40.03FilipeMaiaI don't think lsiutil works
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15:40.25jordanmFilipeMaia, why? what happens when you run it?
15:40.38FilipeMaiaMaybe I didn't download the right version
15:40.45FilipeMaiaI get 0 MPT Ports found
15:41.09FilipeMaiaWhich is clearly cant' be true as I have filesystems mounted through that controller
15:41.19jordanmFilipeMaia, try "modprobe mptctl"
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15:41.52petn-randallFilipeMaia: IIRC, LSI has a command line tool called "tw_cli", which you need to scan for new devices.
15:41.54FilipeMaiaDoesn't help
15:42.08FilipeMaiapetn-randall: isn't that for 3ware stuff?
15:42.12jordanmpetn-randall, that's 3ware
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15:42.25jordanmhis card is MPT-Fusion
15:42.32petn-randalloh snap, right.
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15:43.17jordanmFilipeMaia, http://hwraid.le-vert.net/wiki/LSIFusionMPT
15:43.26jordanmthat's the page I was looking at
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15:44.13FilipeMaiajordanm: thanks i'll take a look
15:45.00jordanmFilipeMaia, they also offer debian packages there for the utilities. technically not supported here, but I use them
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15:47.12ghostrabbithi can anyone help me
15:47.31elongurno
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15:47.59ghostrabbiti have a prob whis danted
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15:48.47ghostrabbitcan any one help me
15:49.13FilipeMaiajordanm: looks like mpt-status is old and no longer developed
15:49.27FilipeMaiajordanm: it didn't really work for me
15:49.50jordanmFilipeMaia, I did find a box here with mpt-fusion, and it does work for me
15:50.30FilipeMaiaI just get ioctl: No such device
15:50.33lapacheHello, please i have a prob with my /etc/network/interfaces file. I'm connected on a trunk iface and my eth0 iface take the conf and default gw of my second vlan if definition. But i want that of the first vlan if def (by dhcp) .... Here is my interfaces file : http://pastebin.com/fRcBCZ1Q
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15:53.04MrJoneswhich users need read access to /etc/sudoers so sudo won't complain about permission denied when attempting to access it?
15:53.10MrJonesjust root? the sudoing user aswell?
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15:54.42mniipMrJones, no one
15:55.04mniipactually just root
15:55.23mniipbut well, root doesn't need privilegies anyway
15:55.32MrJonesmniip: then why would chmod 770 on /etc/ break the system? (/etc/ being owned by some random group which root might or might not be in, and by user root)
15:55.42MrJonesand chmod 775 /etc/ restores things again... with 770, no sudo :(
15:55.51MrJonescomplains about not being able to open /etc/sudoers
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15:56.02mniipno idea
15:56.19jordanmlots of user things also need to read /etc/passwd
15:56.20mniipah, it can't stat it
15:56.26MrJonesyes
15:56.44mniipit can't read the directory therefore thinks it's missing
15:56.54MrJonesthat is what it says actually - sorry for not having the exact error message here, I closed the ssh session already :x
15:57.02MrJonesso which users need access to fix that?
15:57.03mniipit only elevates permissions after making sure the file exists, i think
15:57.08mniipfor security
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15:57.31mniipmy /etc/sudoers is root:root 0440
15:57.54MrJonesthen your user which is sudoing is in group root?
15:58.23FilipeMaiajordanm: I think the relevant page for my case is http://hwraid.le-vert.net/wiki/LSIFusionMPTSAS2
15:59.01MrJoneshmmm
15:59.16MrJonesmniip: my sudoing user doesn't have read access to /etc/sudoers either, but the directoy appears to be the problem
15:59.35MrJoneshowever, both the sudoing user and root had read/execute access, and stat still fails :|
15:59.46babilenMrJones: Yu should /always/ edit sudoers with "visudo" with superuser privileges
16:00.05MrJonesbabilen: I want to restrict access to /etc/ to a few users and cannot figure out how to do it without sudo failing
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16:00.44MrJonesI'm using the raspbian debian variant(?) if that makes any difference
16:00.56petn-randall...
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16:01.09babilenMrJones: A lot of programs require users to be able to read /etc ... And raspbian is not supported in here. (go to #raspbian)
16:01.18babilendpkg: tell MrJones -about raspbian
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16:02.37MrJonesbabilen: well since I dunno how to blacklist a specific user, I wanted to whitelist all the required ones but apparently I missed a few to make even just sudo work - thanks for the help so far, will wander off to #raspbian then
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16:07.13FilipeMaiasas2ircu reports the slot as empty, so it might be there's something funny with the connection.
16:07.42oskar-Hi all, is it considered clean to put a "history -a" into PROMPT_COMMAND? Or is that rather abuse? What do you think?
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16:08.39jordanmoskar-, nothing wrong with that
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16:09.19jordanmoskar-, you will want to set shopt -s histappend though
16:09.20TheWardenI'm trying to build a native Debian package with debuild -us -uc
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16:09.34TheWardenhowever when I run this command I received the following message, https://gist.github.com/thewarden/394a22a0d3776952ac6d.
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16:10.12jordanmTheWarden, you defined a conf file that's not being installed by dh_install
16:10.13TheWardenHow do I fix this? I believe the issue is resulting around "dpkg-deb: conffile `/etc/cron.d/dsivip' does not appear in package".
16:10.47jordanmTheWarden, either remove it from the conffiles list or make sure it get's installed via the install file
16:12.11TheWardenjordanm: okay, but why not? I wanted this to be installed.
16:12.26TheWardenjordanm: install it via the install file, how do you mean?
16:12.57jordanmTheWarden, see: dh_install(1)
16:13.36jordanmTheWarden, looks like you might actually want dh_installcron
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16:14.38jordanmTheWarden, just put the cron file in debian/package.cron.d
16:14.50jordanmI mean, name the file that, not a new directory
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16:15.18somiajTheWarden: where did you get the source and/or debian/ dir in it?
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16:15.49jordanmif it's a native package, then upstream source would have have came with debian/
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16:16.51TheWardenjordanm: okay I'll take a read at that. Oh really, its that simple? I have the file presently located at package-dir/etc/cron.d/dsivip
16:17.20TheWardensomiaj: I created all of it, this is a native package without using source/upstream.
16:17.40jordanmTheWarden, for a native package, move the file
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16:18.22jordanmTheWarden, for non-native I would use dh_install. typically, cron files are not distributed with the source
16:18.38fouwhats your experence with forked , firefly server or medai tomb?
16:18.44fouwhat would you use ?
16:18.44TheWardenjordanm: okay but what if I had multiple files to have in cron.d ? If I understand you correctly your saying to move the file to dsivip/deiban/package.cron.d (changing the location and file name).
16:19.26somiajI've only used mediatomb and thought it was simple and easy to use, though I dont' thnk it is in debian anymore
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16:19.55jordanmTheWarden, dh_install
16:19.56somiajoh guess it is, I thought it was taken out due to a bug....
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16:20.36jordanmTheWarden, it's not common to have multiple cron.d files in the same packages, since you can define many cronjobs in a single cron.d file
16:21.06TheWardenjordanm: yeah that is true. okay thanks, I give that a try and reading that man page you mentioned.
16:21.58Ricky27Hey, I'm new to debian. I want to run the live cd on my old laptop but I always get "cannot open display" with the default settings. Is there anything I can do?
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16:22.40somiajRicky27: can you get to a console and check the /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see why you cannot open display?
16:22.47somiajWhere are you getting this error?
16:24.00Ricky27somiaj: I am starting the live cd from an USB stick. Then I have the options Default, Live /686-pae failsafe, Graphical install and Hardware Detection Tool (HDT). I can press Tab to edit options.
16:24.34somiajRicky27: and the default gives you a cannot open display error (after a bit of loading)?
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16:24.45Ricky27yes somiaj
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16:25.32Ricky27somiaj: debconf:[different numbers] Gtk-WARNING cannot open display 0
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16:26.35somiajRicky27: Are you in a graphical enviorment or just at a console? Again until you can find why the display is not opening I don't know how much more help I can be
16:26.47somiajif X isn't running, you need to check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
16:28.02Ricky27somiaj: The hdd is empty. I just have the USB stick with debian-wheezy-live-rc1-i386-gnome-desktop+nonfree on it. I don't know how to access the command line. :/
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16:28.31TheWardenjordanm: maybe I'm not reading the dh_install(1) correctly but shouldn't the file be called debian/crond.d.insall not /debian/package.cron.d ?
16:29.10somiajRicky27: well unless you can give me some screen shots of what you see, you select the default option, do you ever get loaded into a graphical enviorment or does it error out. Have you tried to hit ctrl-alt-f1 (or f2) for a console?
16:29.35jordanmTheWarden, see: dh_installcron(1)
16:29.59jordanmTheWarden, if just using dh_install, the file would be called package.install
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16:31.41TheWardenjordanm: ahh okay, sorry I didn't read dh_installcron(1) yet, I see what you mean now.
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16:36.13oskar-thanks and bye!
16:36.13TheWardenoh man, now I get "dpkg-deb: conffile `/etc/default/rcS' does not appear in package", it appears its going to error out on each reference I have in the debian/conffiles. I must be doing something wrong here.
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16:36.37Washuzsh, /bin/zsh, /bin/zsh4, /usr/bin/zsh, which one? xD
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16:37.25fouwhats your experence with forked , firefly server or medai tomb?
16:37.30fouwhat would you use ?
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16:42.32TheWardenthe reason I'm wanting to install the /etc/default/rcS file in my package is because I want to turn on the FSCKFIX=yes to have it auto fix and check disk errors found.
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16:43.06john_ramboWhen I try to browse files on my phone via Bluetooth I get  Failed to launch "thunar--browser"
16:44.55petn-randallTheWarden: You need to explicitely mark the files you want to install in debian/$packagename.install
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16:46.14petn-randallTheWarden: Though you'll run into trouble because you'll be overwriting conffiles from other packages ...
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16:49.40tremonTheWarden: what about modifying rcS in the postinst script?
16:49.56jmdUnder wheezy, how do I configure cups-client?
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16:55.08TheWardenpetn-randall: oh, where can I read about this file debian/$packagename.install? Oh really, mmm
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16:55.33TheWardentremon: yes I was thinking of that but then thought maybe that this way was better but apparently not.
16:56.09Ricky27somiaj: are you still there? I managed to boot the system with the failsafe option. Which log file do I need to open? syslog?
16:56.22elonguru need 2 open ur mum
16:56.24elongur:----D
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16:56.53babilenelongur: Play somewhere else please.
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16:57.46somiajRicky27: since you do not have presistance logs on a live system you probably don't have an Xorg.log file. Are you in a console or a graphical enviorment?
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16:58.50tremonTheWarden: no, even if you manage to claim rcS as owned by your package (and I'm not sure dpkg will let you), that means rcS will be deleted on package purge. I think that's not what you want, and I'm sure that's not what you should want
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17:00.26PLovakhi
17:01.15PLovakhow do i remove the scroll bar in xterm?
17:01.18TheWardentremon: no, I just want to alter a setting or better put a line within that paticular file. Something like this would do it in the postinst script, sed -i 's/FSCKFIX=no/FSCKFIX=yes/' /etc/default/rcS
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17:01.58somiajPLovak: man xterm will tell you
17:02.35PLovaksomiaj: nope it wont
17:02.40tremonyou would need to account for people who have commented out that line, so s/^#\s*FSCKFIX=.*/...  would be more generic. But that depends on how wide you will deploy this
17:02.59tremonerm, ^#?\s... etc
17:03.16Ricky27thanks for your help somiaj. Will try to find some boot options. Guess it has to do with the old graphic card
17:03.19somiajPLovak: yes it will. Learn to read documentation.
17:03.32PLovakokay i'll read it...
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17:04.55houserHello, quite often i get "Write failed: Broken pipe" when using ssh. is this due to a timeout set on the server or why is it coming?
17:05.04Towzzernetwork issues
17:05.15Towzzerit could also be a timeout set but debian doesn't do that by default
17:05.19Towzzerredhat does
17:05.22TowzzerI think
17:05.25TheSinis Guillem from dpkg around per chance?
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17:05.29houserTowzzer, aha...how do i check if there is a timeout?
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17:07.22tremonalso, man ssh_config, ServerAlive and TCPKeepAlive
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17:13.58lroeI need to bring down an interface, wait 5 mins, then bring it backup
17:14.17jmdThen do that.
17:14.24somiajlroe: how do you configure your interfaces? If you use /etc/network/interfaces, use ifup, ifdown and wait
17:14.25lroeI'm not sure how
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17:14.51jmdifdown ethX ; sleep 300 ; ifup ethX
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17:15.23somiajoh yea it is sleep, wait is for something else
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17:16.39lroethanks.
17:17.08somiajnote if you use network manager or another way to configure your interfaces that won't work
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17:17.32TuxCannonI mostly got this error if the wireless connection of my portable devices make trouble
17:17.50TuxCannonOh sorry, wrong channel
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17:23.09zxcvbnhelp.. how to make own signed repository for wheezy? is it enough to make Release.gpg file or I need to sign every .deb file too, using dpkg-sig?
17:23.16TheWardenHow would I go about add a new line to a file programmaticly? I would have to search for a unique keyword and then add the new line below it some how. mmm sed can do search replace I wonder if I can some how use that to add a new line.
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17:24.50petn-randallzxcvbn: Look into automated solutions like reprepro or mini-dinstall.
17:25.12petn-randallzxcvbn: Don't try to do the stuff by hand, you'll never see the end of it :)
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17:26.03petn-randallzxcvbn: But usually only the Release file is signed, and this contains a chain of the md5/sha1 hashes of all other files
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17:28.05somiajTheWarden: echo foo >> file
17:28.10somiajTheWarden: adds a new line to the end of a file
17:28.20somiaj(or how ever many lines needed from foo)
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17:29.41TheWardensomiaj: yeah in this case I need to add the line to a specific spot, as it will not work by adding it to the end of the file.
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17:30.53somiajTheWarden: you can use grep to figure out what line number you need to add the file at?
17:30.54jewardI've just installed wheezy as a virtualbox guest and can't login (no mouse or keyboard).
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17:31.13somiajTheWarden: then head the top of the file into a tmp file, put the line you need, then tail the bottom of the file
17:31.14zxcvbnpetn-randall: thanks)
17:31.22somiajTheWarden: there are lots of different options here you could do
17:31.24jewardI found tihs, but I can't move /run: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=41279
17:31.48jewardSqueeze wrks fine in the same scenario.
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17:32.29petn-randalljeward: I think moving /run is hardly a solution. It'll break a lot of things.
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17:32.58jewardpetn-randall: Yeah, the author said as much, but I've found no other suggestions.
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17:33.27zxcvbnjeward: doing the same right now, installing wheezy on virtualbox 4.2.8 r2, got 1 strange glitch right during install, keyboard was lost and installer didnt react on keys
17:33.45mms_I installed cygwin and screen on win 7.  In the screen shell I am unable to scroll up nor does filter like less or more show any thing and TERM env is cygwin.  I have changed cmd properties layout screen buffer height to 9999 already.
17:33.48petn-randalljeward: So wheezy doesn't work if you let it capture you mouse and keyboard?
17:33.49jewardzxcvbn: Any resolution?
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17:34.12jewardpetn-randall: Yes, if I boot into rescue mode, it works fine.  GUI not so much.
17:34.21zxcvbnjeward: yeah, rebooted machine :) installation now goes ok, i will report about final success or failure
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17:35.07jewardI used the GUI install and everything went fine.
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17:35.21zxcvbndo you have "absolute positioning devices" checkbox enabled on settings "System" tab? this is for mouse integration
17:35.23jewardJust can't loging once it's installed.
17:35.33jewardChecking.
17:35.37somiajjeward: so you just do not have mouse/keyboard in X?
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17:35.46jewardsomiaj: Correct.
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17:36.02somiajjeward: there was some new change in X that effected wheezy that makes it so that sometimes happens, what does your xorg.conf look like?
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17:36.34somiajjeward: I'm sure with some google you can look up what you need to do with your xorg.conf to get your keyboard back...I had that issue with my old xorg.conf and had to fix it sometime ago
17:37.07jewardzxcvbn: That option is enabled.
17:37.11TheWardensomiaj: yes that is true there is many ways to achieve the same thing. I have grep finding the line number I need. now to just figure out how to get the content to that line number.
17:38.08jewardsomiaj: I'll reboot into rescue mode and have a look.
17:38.14zxcvbnjeward: in emergency case, I think you can select "(rescue)" item from default boot menu, or load wheezy in rescue mode manually. (by adding "single" word to kernel parameters, or "init=/bin/bash")
17:38.26zxcvbnye)
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17:39.21jewardsomiaj: There is no xorg.conf
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17:40.06jewardzxcvbn: Recovery mode works fine, but I need X11 to work. :-)
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17:40.53somiajjeward: you might need to create one....one second
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17:42.00zxcvbnat least now we know it's X's problem) what happens if you select "Machine - Disable mouse integration" menu item from VirtualBox's menu? (Host+I shortcut)
17:42.17jewardMakes no difference.,
17:43.54somiajjeward: any way you can check your Xorg.0.log from a boot that has no keyboard mouse?
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17:44.12jewardsomiaj: I am in recovery mode, let me look.
17:44.13somiajjeward: like mount the virtial hd somewhere and grab that file (after you are running with no keyboard mouse)
17:44.25somiajthat should work too, check that log file, figure out why it doesn't find a keyboard mouse
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17:44.59zxcvbnhow about uninstalling virtualbox-guest-utils and virtualbox-guest-dkms?
17:46.12invariantWhat website mirroring software saturates links completely (or as much as the remote side is willing to handle)?
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17:47.03jewardzxcvbn: That looks like the right way to go, it's complaining about the vbox guest additions.
17:47.29petn-randallinvariant: rsync? Would be nice if you could be more specific ...
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17:47.42invariantI am thinking of something which downloads using 100,000 green threads or so.
17:47.47PrinceAMDhi guys i have changed my scheduler to noop "echo noop > /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler" how do i save it permanently
17:48.01invariant(and using as much OS threads as are available)
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17:48.28invariantpetn-randall, rsync doesn't mirror websites.
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17:48.53petn-randallinvariant: It does mirror ours :)
17:49.16invariantpetn-randall, yes, but that needs a different interface.
17:49.19jewardOkay, now I have a system installed with no X11. :-)
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17:49.50petn-randallinvariant: Well, instead of letting us guess what you have and don't have, how about you tell us about your case?
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17:50.05invariantpetn-randall, Uhm, by now that should be clear.
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17:50.36jewardzxcvbn: What next?
17:50.50jewardzxcvbn: Try reinstall guest additions?
17:51.21zxcvbnuhm) no, install X11 without additions)
17:51.58jewardzxcvbn: Say... aptitude install xinit?
17:52.08zxcvbnkde-desktop
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18:04.21convergeis there some performance problem if I use two 8 ports switch inside the same network ?
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18:04.53jmdconverge: If there are modern ones I shouln't think so.
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18:05.25jmdObviously it would slightly increase the latency, but I doubt you would notice that.
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18:06.49joelwallisHi. I'm a newbie coming from Ubuntu world. I'm trying to setup a LEMP server with Debian squeeze, and I'm using dotdeb repository. I installed nginx-full but I can't start the service
18:07.17convergejmd: thanks
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18:08.31jordanm!tell joelwallis about dotdeb
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18:12.00babai need guidance regarding debian gsoc.
18:12.10TheWardenI ran the following command to add a new line to a specific line number, sed "${grubbg}iGRUB_BACKGROUND="/usr/share/images/desktop-base/vip-bootloader-loading.png"" /home/adouglas/dsivip/etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme > /home/adouglas/dsivip/etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme
18:12.23joelwallisthanks jordanm, let me get these infos
18:12.27TheWardenhowever for some reason the test I've tried the 05_debian_theme file is empty after I run that.
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18:13.26jordanmTheWarden, redirection happens *first*
18:13.34TheWardenbut if I output the results to a different file name then the input it works fine. mmm
18:13.39jordanmTheWarden, the file is already truncated before sed reads it
18:13.56TheWardenjordanm: oh well that's not good.
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18:14.02joelwallis/et/issue: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0... i386... theres no PHP for now. I've only MariaDB and dotdeb files in sources.list.d folder. the server is really fresh (12 hours of uptime)
18:14.21jordanmTheWarden, don't use sed to edit files
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18:14.46ompaulbaba:  http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2013
18:14.46jordanmjoelwallis, dotdeb packages are not supported here
18:14.56TheWardenjordanm: oh how come? I thought it was a good solution as I'm familiar with working with it. I wasn't sure what else to use to add a new line at a specific line number to a given file.
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18:15.26jordanmTheWarden, see #bash
18:15.27joelwallisjordanm: ah ok. sorry
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18:16.09yaf_elechello, can someone help me with this: http://pastebin.com/CVWySmqZ
18:16.12yaf_elec?
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18:17.50jordanmyaf_elec, do you have packages pinned or held?
18:18.01yaf_elecjordanm, no idea...
18:18.18jordanmyaf_elec, paste the output of `apt-cache policy`
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18:20.50yaf_elecjordanm, http://pastebin.com/5eCjQiSN
18:21.01yaf_elecI use aptitude
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18:22.26jordanmyaf_elec, paste: apt-get dist-upgrade -s
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18:23.38yaf_elecjordanm, http://pastebin.com/1NUQCT9v
18:24.27jordanmyaf_elec, I would do the upgrade then install valgrind.. aptitude should be doing that for you, no idea why it isn't
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18:24.47jordanmi haven't used aptitude since lenny, it had some regressions in dependency resolution post lenny
18:25.18yaf_elecjordanm, so, do an aptitude upgrade and then try to install valgrind ?
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18:25.44jordanmyaf_elec, if aptitude doesn't vomit on the upgrade, yeah
18:25.48jordanmotherwise, use apt-get
18:26.21yaf_elecjordanm, another question. I just got a laptop and I want to use the testing version. Can you tell me how to modify the sources.list ?
18:26.34yaf_elecdo I have to do it every time a new release comes ?
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18:27.23jordanm!tell yaf_elec about squeeze→wheezy
18:27.36jordanmyaf_elec, yes, but that's only once every 3 or so years
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18:46.23xlqI have 3.2.0-4-amd64 and 3.2.0-4-rt-amd64 kernels installed, and I'm trying to use nvidia-kernel-dkms.
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18:46.46xlqUnfortunately dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-kernel-dkms builds the kernel module for the current kernel and uninstalls it for all others. 
18:46.50xlqHow can I get it to build for both my kernels?
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19:01.07PieplayI've installed debian a few times over now, but I cant get the grub to work on an old ATA/IDE disk computer
19:01.28Pieplayis this a common problem, how to fix it?
19:01.53petn-randallPieplay: This is not a common problem. Can you paste the error message you get?
19:02.42JWGUBNYMGBQWOIPieplay: are you using squeeze or testing
19:02.59JWGUBNYMGBQWOIstable or testing / squeeze or wheezy
19:03.01xlqOh yeah, and I'm on Debian unstable.
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19:03.22unkmardos2linux
19:03.27unkmarwhere?
19:03.37Pieplay6.0.7 guess standard
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19:03.49unkmarand frustration from other things have strangled my brain
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19:04.14Pieplaybasicly "Welcome to grub!" error: unknown file system
19:04.19unkmarI should haven't to execute some crazy sed command to translate fileformats
19:04.21JWGUBNYMGBQWOIPieplay: are you using ext4 on your root fs
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19:04.28Pieplayext3
19:04.32JWGUBNYMGBQWOIoh
19:05.07JWGUBNYMGBQWOII don't know then; I just remember when using squeeze once, it offered the option for ext4 as root, but the grub module didn't have ext4 support
19:05.40Pieplaybut after "ls" in grub resque it shows me 3 msdos where my ext3 swap and ext4 should be
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19:06.36DammitJimhow can I tell the tty that a process is attached to?
19:06.57DammitJimI have 4 PIDs for the same window manager
19:07.09DammitJimsomething tells me xrdp created the other instances and never released them or something
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19:07.59Pieplaygrub rescue> ls (hd0) (hd0,msdos3) (hd0,msdos2) (hd0,msdos1) (fd0)     makes no sence
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19:10.12unkmarcurse words.  many curse words.
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19:10.14petn-randallPieplay: Boot from a rescue medium, then mount your rootfs and chroot into it, then run grub-install.
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19:10.48petn-randallPieplay: Although it looks to me that you fed grub with wrong boot parameters.
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19:11.47Pieplayrunning debian live disk now on live rescue
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19:13.16WashuHow do I stop things complaining about my hostname being unresolvable?
19:13.23Gokee2Hello everyone, I am trying to make acroread work on Debian Wheezy.   I installed acroread-l10n-en however it does not appear to have a binary with it...   dpkg -L only lists some html and txt files
19:13.42petn-randallWashu: Define "things".
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19:14.01Washupetn-randall: sudo
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19:14.14petn-randallGokee2: You will need the binary package from the adobe.com website.
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19:14.44Gokee2petn-randall, Oh?  There is no binary packaged for Debian anymore?
19:14.49petn-randallGokee2: It's only available as 32 bit, so if you're on 64 bit, you'll have to add the 32 bit arch to dpkg
19:15.03petn-randallGokee2: I think it's gone because of licensing reasons.
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19:15.55Gokee2petn-randall, Ah, okay, thanks
19:16.07petn-randallGokee2: If you get stuck, ask again in here.
19:16.27petn-randallGokee2: Though the only reason to install acroread is if you have these weird PDFs with javascript inside.
19:17.17Gokee2petn-randall, I (sadly) find it a much better general PDF viewer then anything else in Linux
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19:18.17Gokee2petn-randall, For example okular which I use some of the time can't even rotate a PDF.  And it can't touch the easy of use and preview options in printing a PDF Adobe has
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19:19.17petn-randallGokee2: I see. I use evince and haven't missed anything yet. Then I again I just use it to read PDFs on screen and occasionally print one.
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19:25.39peterrooneyI vote for evince also.  I've never had to take notice of what pdf reader I'm using, except to invoke it from the command line.
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19:27.33Gokee2petn-randall, Hmm, that one does rotate, but its print options are fairly lacking.  Looks good for simple stuff though.  And I now have acroread :)  Thanks
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19:28.41ompaulGokee2: mind your ram keep killing that thing when not actually needed
19:29.30Gokee2ompaul, Hmm, does acroread have a memory leak?   I have never noticed it to use high amounts in the past
19:29.32elongurbrb
19:30.06Gokee2Now iceweasel and icedove eat up all my ram whenever I run them too long...  :(
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19:36.50LoCoZeNoz_ZUEI forgot. How does a root /etc/passwd line looks like when shadow is disabled?
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19:40.08ompaulGokee2: it may be cleaner in the last couple of years I used to have it on a multiuser X machine and it was a dog on me
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19:40.37ompaulGokee2: 40 or so users not all using that but it was the heaviest thing on there
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19:42.50sawgijGokee2, I don't know what you're talking about with Okular, maybe long ago it couldn't rotate pages, but it certainly can now.
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19:43.41g0rd0ni installed debian netinstall without configuring a mirror... how can i configure a mirror for apt sources now?
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19:45.06sawgijAnd I don't know what options you're missing from print functionality, don't have to print much myself, but a lot of the printing options are dictated by your printer driver are they not?
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19:45.34g0rd0nnvm i configged manually
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19:47.18arkaitzjHi, good console IRC client for current debian/testing ?
19:47.26jelly-homeLoCoZeNoz_ZUE: you could set up a debootstrapped chroot and disable shadow in it to find out
19:48.30sawgijarkaitzj, you have two main options irssi, and weechat. You can also use pidgin from a curses interface now, but meh.
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19:56.34KottizenHi everyone. I'm currently being "ddosed" by some guy, but my server isn't down. I can acces it. Is there any way I can see which IPs he's using?
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19:59.47arkaitzjthx sawgij
19:59.51arkaitzjwill try weechat
20:00.44maobhi problem with monitor lcd in debian 6.0.7 just installed squeeze packard bell easynote v7900
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20:03.19TheWardenI'm setting up a custom automated Deban install. Now I have a postinst script file, there is areas that I alter some files with sed. Its my understanding I should be using ed, however I've noticed that ed is not a standard program with Debian.
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20:04.10TheWardenTherefore is it correct to say that using GNU ed would not be viable after the Debian installer completes to then run postinst? I have more and more situations where I need to alter some files adding new lines of content to them
20:04.18LoCoZeNoz_ZUEjelly-home, I am asking here becouse its faster than learning about debootsomething.
20:04.59LoCoZeNoz_ZUEDo you know? Thanks can you paste it here? No? Thanks anyway, il google it.
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20:05.17bublikim having a weird problem with my chromium browser... im get orange/yellow snowy pictures for some reason when watching the 60 minutes app. what could this be?
20:05.33maobcan you help me please
20:05.34maob?
20:05.43dondelelcaroTheWarden: sed is essential yes, so it'll always be there
20:05.53dondelelcaroTheWarden: not sure who told you not to use sed.
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20:06.49TheWardendondelelcaro: jordanm mentioned that I should be using ed instead... so far sed has been doing the job and being that ed is not present its kind of hard to use it at that stage. Sure I can have the package be installed but at that state ed still not be not usable via a script.
20:07.39maobmonitor seems to loose signal
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20:07.54ChibaPetCry havoc! Let loose the signal!
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20:08.13reepeecheepHi
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20:08.43reepeecheepI need a bluetooth app on KDE
20:08.49ChibaPetmaob: Do you have experience with the machine running other OSes? That sounds like a flaky hardware problem. Does the signal return after a while, or sporadically, or when it dies is it gone until reboot?
20:08.55dondelelcaroTheWarden: oh. No, use sed.
20:09.16dondelelcaroTheWarden: ed can be useful, but it's certainly not required to be installed, and it's definitely not something you want to depend or pre-depend on.
20:09.21TheWardendondelelcaro: okay, well jordanm may not have understand the context at the time. I will continue down this path then.
20:09.25ChibaPetmaob: Also worth asking, can you get into the box remotely after the monitor has lost signal? Which is to say, does the whole box lock up, or is it really just the monitor not displaying things?
20:09.30reepeecheepwhich can I use?
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20:09.49dondelelcaroTheWarden: cool
20:09.50TheWardendondelelcaro: thanks
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20:10.50maobi've tried ubuntu/win and i have no lack of signal but other cons.
20:11.26maobthe monitor turns black without regularity
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20:11.58ChibaPetmaob: What causes it to come back?
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20:12.15ChibaPetmaob: I wonder if you're maybe seeing unexpected energy-saver settings playing out.
20:12.22jordanmdondelelcaro, TheWarden, ed is defined by POSIX
20:12.23maobwhen I start it goes well for a while than it starts to show the problem
20:12.43jordanmbut a minimal debian install does lack a couple other tools defined by POSIX
20:12.47ChibaPetmaob: Any chance it's overheating?
20:12.49TheWardenjordanm: but in the context that I need to use ed how can that be possible?
20:12.54maobwhen I boot
20:13.19maobdon't know
20:13.20jordanmTheWarden, if sed is always available we ed isn't, then use sed
20:13.34jordanmTheWarden, you can use -i depending on what OS's you are targeting
20:13.34dondelelcarojordanm: sure, but this is Debian. ed isn't required to be installed
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20:14.29TheWardenjordanm: yeah in this context ed is not available so I need to use sed. Yes I've been playing with -i things are getting interesting to say the least.
20:14.33ChibaPetmaob: If you could make sure you've answered the questions I asked above, it'll help diagnose this. There are some answers missing as yet.
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20:14.55TheWardenFor instances using sed and some how telling it to add a new line and then new content... not sure if something like \n will do nor not.
20:15.03maobChibaPet, ok sorry
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20:15.16ChibaPetNo worries, just seems more efficient than my typing them out again.
20:15.59krofnaWhy isn't there compiz-gnome package in wheezy? When I try to install it apt pulls the one from experimental, causing: http://pastebin.com/gjpXWzNE . compiz-gtk installs fine tho
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20:16.49monacodshep: :) jaja I am in love with DEBIAN :P - Ubuntu to :) but I do not know where to get ubuntu cloak :P
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20:18.47maobChibaPet, I don't thing it's overheating
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20:19.29reepeecheephello?
20:19.30ChibaPetmaob: Can you get into it remotely when the screen is off? Do you have energy saver settings set as you expect? (see 'xset q' output for this)
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20:20.24ChibaPetmaob: What makes the display come back? Does it come back on its own, or when you type, or...?
20:22.04maobChibaPet, it's  like a black flash
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20:22.33ChibaPetmaob: Ah, it flashes and then comes back? Hm.
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20:22.41maobChibaPet, yeh
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20:23.10ChibaPetmaob: Will this happen as you're actively using it, or only when it has been sitting idle for a time?
20:23.33ChibaPetmaob: Will the screen flash soon after you boot the system, or only after it's been in use for a while?
20:23.35maobChibaPet, like when you connect an external monitor and the cable it's looses signal
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20:23.50ChibaPetloses* - loose is a different word
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20:25.12maobChibaPet, when I boot It makes a flash than it works stable for a while than it starts to flash whithout regularity
20:25.33maobbut I can work
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20:26.58maobChibaPet, I've tried to change resolution but nothing changes
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20:27.36ChibaPetmaob: My first impression of that is that the hardware might have an issue, and you might be overheating, but if it's not that then it's possible it's an issue with your X server. Something I'd be really interested in seeing is if it does the same thing if you're in a text console, and not inside X. (Type control-alt-f1 for instance to get to the first console - your X is probably on control-alt-f7 to get back)
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20:30.23maobChibapet, yes it does also in text console
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20:31.15aguitelwhen messenger will get end of life in april 8 ,what linux users need to do ?
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20:31.54ChibaPetmaob: That really makes it seem like a hardware issue to me, although you said you haven't seen the issue in Ubuntu or Windows. It seems like the sort of symptom I'd expect from an overheating system. It might be worth seeing if your fans are spinning enough to dump the heat your system generates - this can vary from OS to OS.
20:32.02ChibaPetaguitel: Which messenger?
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20:32.36aguitelChibaPet, messenger protocol from microsoft
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20:33.15dymWhen running a website with 1MB size total (html), how much traffic would 1 complete view of this website count as? 1MB? Overhead? Double?
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20:33.30Lars_GThanks for the answer
20:34.48ChibaPetaguitel: I don't think it'll probably impact most GNU/Linux users at all. For those it does, if users of that protocol are being forced over to Skype, there's a limited Skype binary available for Lignux. You're probably better off switching to an XMPP-based service, in any event.
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20:36.05maobso there's nothing I can do?
20:36.37ChibaPetmaob: I could explore "lm-sensors" and "fancontrol" and related packages, and make sure what you're seeing isn't overheating.
20:36.44ChibaPets/could/would/
20:37.30ChibaPetmaob: Other than that, nothing obvious comes to mind as the source of the problem. I've seen aging laptops do that, and it's a likely outcome from overheating. If it's not that, I'm stumped.
20:37.37aguitelChibaPet, what is xmpp-based service ?
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20:37.55ChibaPetaguitel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMPP
20:38.25ChibaPetaguitel: So... Pidgin, maybe.
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20:40.30DammitJimis there any reason why I would need 8GB of RAM on a laptop for checking email and browsing the web?
20:40.31DammitJimLOL
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20:41.20aguitelChibaPet, people in ubuntu say pidgin skype plugin to work need skype running in background
20:41.52ChibaPetaguitel: I'm insufficiently familiar with Pidgin/Skype interactions to help, sorry.
20:42.09aguitelok
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20:42.33Zeeflorabbieth, are you around?
20:43.19peterrooneyaguitel:  /msg dpkg cross-post
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20:45.42peterrooneyaguitel: without the initial space
20:45.52maobChibaPet, thank you
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20:47.00maobi'll throw it in the bin :-(
20:48.18chrisirc_(Is there a dedicated channel for debian live images?)
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20:48.59chrisirc_I'm unable to boot either Ubuntu live images (no error message at all, just goes black and reboots by itself),
20:49.09chrisirc_nor Debian live testing: here I'm getting:
20:49.20chrisirc_"try passing init= option"
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20:49.40chrisirc_but what should I pass, grub entry has /boot/initrd or some such, but if it can't find the stick where would I pass that?
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20:50.26chrisirc_I'm trying to boot from a flash USB drive, that I prepared using "cp debian-wheezy-live-rc1-amd64-gnome-desktop+nonfree.iso /dev/sdb"
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20:51.01chrisirc_I've read that those images are supposed to be hybrid, thus this would be the way to go, so why does it not work?
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20:52.00chrisirc_Interestingly, the "installer" option of the grub menu of the live image actually runs-
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20:56.14brontosaurusrexhow to manually rebuild menus?
20:56.18brontosaurusrexthe command?
20:56.47chrisirc_The graphical installer doesn't work either; "Initramfs unpacking failed: uncompression error".
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20:57.33chrisirc_When I had the issues with the ubuntu image, I verified with head -c $size /dev/sdb|md5sum  that the stick contained the image correctly, which it did
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20:59.01chrisirc_(ps not grub, I think that's isolinux or whatever)
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21:00.18babilenchrisirc_: No idea if anybody is working on the testing live images, but there is #debian-live on irc.oftc.net (aka irc.debian.org)
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21:00.42babilenchrisirc_: I'd recommend to use the installer images if you want to install
21:01.07chrisirc_Thanks
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21:11.08kingsley_How would you fix a keyboard and mouse buttons that hang, and a monitor that goes blank or "ghosts", between after two minutes and two hours of use, when the system still responds to pings, and they keep working after being booted with SystemrescueCD?
21:11.34kingsley_The log files were silent.
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21:11.55zykotick9kingsley_: do you happen to be using gnome3 on wheezy?
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21:12.58kingsley_zykotick9, Thanks for asking. I use some gnome code, like the gnumeric spreadsheet, but I don't use gnome's desktop.
21:13.08elongurjan kill yourself
21:13.13elonguroops sorry
21:13.17elongurpls dont mute me
21:13.19elongurplz
21:13.45ChibaPet!ops plz mute elongur
21:13.45dpkgHydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: chibapet complains about: plz mute elongur
21:14.18elongurpls
21:14.21elongurplspslpslspl
21:14.38kingsley_zykotick9, Why do you ask?
21:14.47jordanmelongur, stop spamming the channel and you probably don't have anything to worry about
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21:15.44zykotick9kingsley_: while i've experienced similar "issues", they seemed related to using gnome3 for me.  using a WM and issues seem to have disappeared, for me.  best of luck.
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21:16.46harry_hello
21:16.54elongurhelo :-)
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21:17.15harry_that was a test
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21:17.25kingsley_zykotick9, Do I understand correctly that replacing gnome3 with a window manager seems to have solved your problem?
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21:18.50zykotick9kingsley_: for me personally, yes.  i had a wheezy box up for about 20 days (19 really), installed gnome3 and within 2 days had various keyboard/mouse not responding, system lockups - removed gnome3 = stability returned.  YMMV
21:20.00kingsley_zykotick9, That's interesting. I'll google it.
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21:51.36TheWardenokay, finally I believe have my package created but I'm not sure if it worked or not. How can I resolve the following warnings and error., https://gist.github.com/thewarden/394a22a0d3776952ac6d ?
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21:51.57TheWardenwarnings and error I mean by what lintian returned.
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22:34.26wulllsthi. as zim in debian squeeze/stable is quite a bit buggy, i'm trying to switch to version 0.59, where most bugs seem to have fixed.
22:34.51wulllstso i downloaded a deb package from the zim website, backed up my data an then uninstalled zim 0.48 (from the main repo)
22:35.15wulllstthat removed a dependency of zim: python-xdg.
22:35.43wulllstnow, on installing the new deb package, dpkg of course tells me: install python-xdg.
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22:36.41wulllstok, but there seem to be a serious problem with that package. it is broken an connot be installed
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22:37.13somiajwulllst: be careful, what versin of debian (or ubuntu) was this deb compiled for?
22:37.16somiaj,v zim
22:37.51wulllstsomiaj: i think 0.59 is officially in unstable
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22:38.12phoggit is
22:38.20somiajyea, was hoping judd would respond
22:38.22wulllstbut there is no note on the zim website that it will not run in stable
22:38.59somiajahh judd isn't here? Why won't it run on stable, I was just gonna suggest you try /msg dpkg ssbp, and make a backport from the sid version
22:39.00TheWardenwhat should the Standards-Version be set to within the control file when making a native Debian package? I've read this http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Standards-Version but I'm not really sure what it should be still.
22:39.01petn-randallwulllst: Well, is there a note that it'll run on stable?
22:39.10somiajwas hoping judd would have told me if there were any build-depnds issues that arrise
22:39.18petn-randallwulllst: will apt-get install -f fix it for you?
22:39.57wulllstpetn-randall, somiaj: i am not yet there. the problem is with python-xdg
22:40.07wulllstand this is way more serious, i think
22:40.39somiajwell my suggestion was make (Build) your own package for squeeze, I have no clue if this random .deb you got was built against squeeze's depends or not
22:40.41petn-randallTheWarden: There are different versions of the debian policy. This is usually the version of the standard you comply to.
22:41.13petn-randallwulllst: You're not where? Please provide error messages, otherwise talking about it is in vain.
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22:41.24wulllsthttp://paste.debian.net/246789/
22:41.33wulllstsorry for the german language
22:41.35TheWardenpetn-randall: yeah I understood that much, but lol I have no idea what version of the standard I'm complying to or want to comply to.
22:41.37phogginterestingly zim crashes for me, even the sid version
22:41.43wulllstbut maybe you can make something out of it
22:41.54petn-randallTheWarden: Probably the current one?
22:42.09TheWardenpetn-randall: most likely, which is?
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22:42.27petn-randallTheWarden: Unless you're reading an outdated version ... it should say on the main page.
22:42.32wulllstpetn-randall: you see: it is an error with a normal package from the stable release
22:43.03petn-randallTheWarden: Actually, is says on every page in the footnote :)
22:43.22wulllstpetn-randall: that has nothing to do with zim.
22:43.56wulllstan that makes me worry a bit
22:44.28wulllstah, no. sorry. human error.
22:44.31petn-randallwulllst: no it's not. The error is from the zim package!
22:44.52wulllsti see it now.
22:44.56TheWardenpetn-randall: ahh okay, thanks.
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22:46.19wulllstpetn-randall: so what now? i mean, i could also install zimm from source.
22:46.33wulllstbut i'm unsure if that can solve the problem.
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22:49.31petn-randallwulllst: remote the package: dpkg -P zim
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22:50.21wulllstpetn-randall: i did
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22:51.36wulllsti think i might want to try to make a backport of zim for myself.
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23:00.16TheWardenI think I have resolved almost all the warnings/errors I received from lintian, however I have one warning left of "W: dsivip: empty-binary-package". Maybe I'm still not doing something right but the package should contain a bunch of files and directories.
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23:03.12tabakhase_ahh, i just installed an apache mwith modphp, that ships a mods-enabled.conf saying "  <FilesMatch "\.ph(p3?|tml)$">"
23:03.38tabakhase_so "normal" .php files still wont get threated as php? wth?
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23:06.21tabakhase_so am i wrong or are you shipping a "invalid" /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf? o.O
23:07.16wulllsti have 2 quatsins on using source packages:
23:07.27wulllst1. "apt-get source [packagename].  apt-get source does not interact with the package system so mixing apt-get and aptitude is fine in this case." Is that true?
23:07.37wulllst2. CanÄt i do that straight with aptitude?
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23:09.22TheWardenwell I'm off, take care all and thanks again for all the great help. good night.
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23:14.29fortress_I need help with using the terminal to move some duplicate files. Is it appropriate for me to ask about something like that here?
23:15.45peterrooneyfortress_: possibly appropriate.  debian has the fdupes package, for starters
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23:16.23fortress_peterroney: i currently have a command that lists all duplicates based on filesize and MD5 hash, but I need to move these files to a separate directory
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23:16.41petn-randalltabakhase_: What's wrong with it?
23:16.44fortress_I've tried piping it in different ways to mv, but it won't work
23:17.12mercutio22can someone suggest a good partitioning scheme for  a server with a 76gb disk and a 300 gb disk?
23:17.55fortress_mercutio22: I'm not an expert by any means, but what I would do is put / and swap on the 76 GB disk and put /home on the 300 GB disk
23:18.07tabakhase_petn-randall dont know... mistake might be elswhere - it seemed to be not matching to .php$ - so i added that restarted apache - works now - then i removed it again and it failed - then i purged & reinstalled libapache2-mod-php5, restarted apache twice and now it seems to keep working
23:18.08dondelelcaromercutio22: really depends what you're doing with the serve
23:18.09petn-randallmercutio22: Unless they're significantly different in speed or access times, I'd just put the together in LVM.
23:18.15tabakhase_might just be a flaw...
23:18.21peterrooneyfortress_: moving all files to same directory is going to be problematic if they have any matching names.  I would pipe to a script, myself, and then exec the script.
23:18.32dondelelcaromercutio22: but I'd suggest the same thing petn-randall said unless you have specific requirements.
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23:19.21fortress_peterrooney: what do you mean by pipe to a script exactly?
23:19.35petn-randalltabakhase_: You understand regex, right? That filesmatch will match any file ending in .php, .php3 and .phtml.
23:19.53petn-randalltabakhase_: I don't see anything wrong with that.
23:20.21mercutio22fortress_: yea, I thought I'd do that too. I'd put swap there too
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23:20.33mercutio22I  mean on the 76gb one
23:20.38fortress_yeah
23:21.03eco_hahaha got kicked out of #ubuntu
23:21.14mercutio22petn-randall: I am not sure about speed differences
23:21.26fortress_mercutio22: lvm is a pain in the ass to rebuild if something goes wrong, i my experience
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23:21.29petn-randalleco_: Did you forget to turn on caps lock?
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23:22.14petn-randallmercutio22: Actually, unless this is for testing, I'd put two identical drives in there an do a RAID1.
23:22.21eco_no i told someone to type sudo apt-get purge * | rm / in the main channel lol
23:23.00petn-randalleco_: :|
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23:23.12mercutio22petn-randall: I have to work with the two different sized disks =[
23:23.29petn-randalleco_: You'd probably get kicked for the same here ...
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23:23.53mercutio22fortress_: I seee.. so maybe I should just avoid it. I am no expert
23:24.25fortress_mercutio22: the easiest way is what i mentioned above. root and swap on the smaller drive, and home on the larger drive
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23:24.39petn-randallmercutio22: How much of the space do you need? You can still have a RAID1 over 76 GB, then (300 - 76) GB as scratch space.
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23:26.03fortress_petn-randall: seems inefficient. the 300 gb disk could be written to concurrently on the scratch and raid portion of it
23:26.09fortress_doesn't make any sense to me
23:26.11mercutio22petn-randall: eventually  i might need all of it. I will be using this machine for bioinformatics so I will work with large files
23:26.21peterrooneyfortress_: eg. fdupes -1 . | sed 's/^/mv /; s/$/targetdir/' > script ; . script # this should not be used as is!
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23:27.03peterrooneyand, as is, wouldn't work anyways.
23:27.15fortress_peterrooney: thank you, i appreciate it. so i need to make a script that will parse the files?
23:28.24petn-randallfortress_: I'm just spinning ideas here. Depends all on what he's doing with it. Lots of I/O will of course hurt performance, but it also might save him restoring on bare metal from backups.
23:28.25peterrooneythat would be my approach.  xargs isn't easy to get right without find -0, and your situation is outside the scope of find
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23:28.47fortress_mercutio22: for your needs, having the root and swap on the smaller drive, and the home on the large drive makes sense. you can easily image the 76gb drive for backup purposes. if it ever failed, you could just restore the image to any drive 76gb or larger, and it would be like nothing happened
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23:29.44mercutio22fortress_: ok.. sounds reasonable.
23:29.46fortress_peterrooney: ah okay, that is the approach i was taking and it was not working out well...
23:29.52wulllsthey, if i am building a package deb from the source package with "apt-get -b source package", how can i define an appendix to the package version?
23:30.04mercutio22petn-randall: thanks for the input
23:30.48peterrooneysorry, i meant find -print0 # silly me only having one cup of coffee today
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23:31.39petn-randallwulllst: You can't do it that way. apt-get source $package, then enter the source dir, and with dch you can append to the changelog. This will define your package version.
23:31.57fortress_peterrooney: could i simply save the file paths to a txt file, then feed that txt file to the mv command somehow?
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23:32.34wulllstpetn-randall: is it necessary to append the package version? i mean, i know the package is manually installed.
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23:36.08petn-randallwulllst: I recommend appending ~ followed by your custom string + number which you can increment. For example: ~wulllst1
23:36.25wulllstok, that makes sense
23:36.30petn-randallwulllst: That way you can easily distinguish your home made packages from Debian's.
23:36.36wulllsti see
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23:37.15wulllstan building from a source package from unstable is basically creating backport, right?
23:37.19petn-randallwulllst: It'll save you a lot of hair pulling in the long run, believe me :)
23:37.59wulllstok. i mean, i take the source from sid and build on stable.
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23:38.44petn-randallwulllst: Yeah, that's an example of backporting.
23:38.51wulllstso i wonder why in the debian wiki is getting very complicted concernig this issue, while the official debian manual ist straight forward...
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23:39.48Leoneofhello, i'm using wheezy, how to install experimental packages?
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23:40.27petn-randallwulllst: it'll be a pain when you ever upgrade the machine to wheezy, and then the dependencies break. That's why it's a good idea to mark them to easily recognize them.
23:41.15petn-randallwulllst: Also there's a difference between backporting for you self and backporting for Debian, which has a lot of rules what you're allowed to do when backporting.
23:41.34petn-randalls/you self/yourself/
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23:45.52peterrooneyfortress_: I'm wondering what you're actually trying to accomplish.  My protocol for duplicate files is, delete on sight.  A file should have one canonical place, with either symlinks or databases providing different context/views of it.
23:46.35Leoneofwulllst: i want to install kde 4.9 instead of kde 4.8
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23:46.46peterrooneycall it a failure of imagination that I don't understand alternate approaches.
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23:47.34wulllstLeoneof: then it is probably best to dowload the kde4.9 source package and then build the deb on your machine
23:47.45wulllstLeoneof: see here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
23:48.03Leoneofwulllst: that would be painful, isn't it?
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23:49.07petn-randall!experimental
23:49.07dpkgexperimental is the bleeding edge of Debian Development.  Packages here have been deemed unfit/DANGEROUS/untrustworthy/etc for release by the maintainer responsible for them.  DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING.  #debian does _not_ support experimental.  For an actual description, see section 4.6.4.3 of the Developer's Reference.  http://packages.debian.org/experimental/
23:49.36petn-randallLeoneof: I'd read the warning ^^
23:50.01Leoneof:\
23:50.06wulllstLeoneof: i think it will above all be painful to use experimental kde4.9
23:50.14petn-randallLeoneof: I wouldn't risk my system for a minor bump in version number.
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23:51.24Leoneofok, i have to build 4.10, in vbox?
23:51.27Leoneofgood idea?
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23:54.34wulllstif i ude dhc to append the version string, i should use a tilde to mark that as an inferior version.
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23:55.12wulllstwhat will that lead to, when i used the ource package from sid in stable and at some point upgrade my whole system to testing, for example.
23:55.34wulllsti suppose that nothing should happen then.
23:56.17wulllstbecause, for example: zim 0.59 is in sid and 0.56 in testing.
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23:56.33petn-randallwulllst: It strongly depends on if testing can satisfy the package dependencies.
23:57.12wulllsti just wanted to be shure that my 0.59 version is then _not_ substituted by the official 0.56
23:57.17petn-randallwulllst: if your zim package for example depended on libc6=2.11.3-4, you couldn't upgrade.
23:58.42Leoneofwulllst: in kde 4.8 there's a bug in dolphin about sorting files, it's fixed in kde 4.9
23:59.27wulllstLeoneof: that's sad. are you on debian testing?
23:59.35petn-randallLeoneof: and it probably introduced a lot of other bugs you don't have now.
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