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| 00:01.55 | thieh | Question: after updating linux-image my sound card is no longer listed in alsamixer. Any method to revert changes? |
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| 00:03.20 | roboman2444 | um... after an apt-get upgrade... seems as though the latest beta amd fglrx driver doesnt work |
| 00:03.27 | roboman2444 | major opcode of failed... etc |
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| 00:03.46 | roboman2444 | was there a change to xorg or something that would do this? |
| 00:03.50 | roboman2444 | debian testing btw |
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| 00:09.57 | thoonai | any idea how do I solve my uhci problem/ |
| 00:09.58 | thoonai | ? |
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| 00:24.30 | thoonai | ping? |
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| 00:26.23 | nonconvergent | What does installing xserver-xorg-video-nvidia set in the alternatives? |
| 00:26.34 | nonconvergent | I'm working backwards from there, undoing it. |
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| 00:29.59 | dsjsj | how to install pdf printer? |
| 00:30.40 | thoonai | dsjsj: do you have libreoffice already installed? |
| 00:31.07 | dsjsj | what has libreoffice to do with it? |
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| 00:32.17 | dsjsj | the stupid control panel doesn't let me choose anything else than COM or LPT port |
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| 00:33.41 | ParkerR | dsjsj, I know cups=pdf exists |
| 00:33.48 | ParkerR | M* cups-pdf |
| 00:33.55 | ParkerR | I cannot type today |
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| 00:34.11 | ParkerR | Might be able to google that and find out something |
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| 00:35.03 | Zeeflo | question.. All my processes in htop are using 0.0 cpu, still it has a load average of 0.50 |
| 00:35.14 | Zeeflo | what could be going on? |
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| 00:36.59 | thoonai | libreoffice has a pdf print function *shrugs* just a proposition |
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| 00:41.34 | dsjsj | lol cups-pdf printer does only empty pages |
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| 00:44.02 | katerinaki17 | my friend nude photo i hate her hahaha http://ge.tt/7dcjhJd/v/0 |
| 00:44.42 | Zeeflo | uhmm |
| 00:44.43 | Zeeflo | ok |
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| 01:05.14 | tensorpudding | is there a package somewhere where i can find the firmware for my b43-chipset wifi? specifically the files ucode15.fw |
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| 01:05.52 | ningu | is there a way to get a diff between two debian packages? |
| 01:06.00 | ningu | I want to know what source code was changed |
| 01:06.07 | tensorpudding | i want to load the files onto my install medium so i don't have to muck around in debian without wifi |
| 01:06.12 | kleanchap | Anyone running Debian on a ultrabook? |
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| 01:19.30 | tensorpudding | so can you add firmware to a debian install iso? |
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| 01:23.35 | markovh | tensorpudding: yeah google customise debian cd |
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| 01:24.10 | tensorpudding | ugh this looks like a righteous pain |
| 01:24.37 | Moonlightning | Woh, huge channel is huge. |
| 01:25.14 | tensorpudding | i just want some extra firmware to be loaded, but i don't have a usb flashdrive to spare |
| 01:25.15 | Moonlightning | Anyway…I have a Debian VPS that apparently came with X11 on it ( http://pastebin.com/r8AHsSEn ). Do I need X11, or can I safely uninstall it? |
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| 01:26.12 | Zeeflo | if a disk is i/o critical |
| 01:26.15 | Zeeflo | in which log can I see it? |
| 01:27.29 | markovh | tensorpudding: can you boot without it? |
| 01:27.52 | tensorpudding | i can |
| 01:28.01 | markovh | tensorpudding: if so, you don't really need to "include it in the iso". like debian 6 doesn't come with my network driver so i just dropped it on a usb key and it was in the advanced menu |
| 01:28.30 | tensorpudding | it's just a righteous pain to have to manually handle it when the debian installer can setup my network for me |
| 01:28.41 | tensorpudding | i don't remember how to do it and i won't have internet at that point to look it up |
| 01:28.43 | markovh | what are you missing |
| 01:28.50 | tensorpudding | b43 firmware |
| 01:29.07 | markovh | ah yeah, there's a debian cd with extra drivers on it |
| 01:29.18 | tensorpudding | probably not the wheezy rc1 iso |
| 01:29.28 | tensorpudding | and in any event, no way am i downloading another one |
| 01:29.50 | markovh | o.O why not? |
| 01:30.08 | tensorpudding | because it takes forever and is a waste of bandwidth? |
| 01:31.01 | markovh | ah that sucks |
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| 01:31.19 | markovh | do you need it for network? |
| 01:31.34 | markovh | like you could install and then plug a cable in to get the driver via apt-get |
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| 01:33.38 | tensorpudding | nevermind, i found a usb flashdrive i can use |
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| 01:33.53 | tensorpudding | trying again... |
| 01:34.50 | urata | I have had good luck with crunchbang linux which is wheezy |
| 01:35.02 | markovh | tensorpudding: what's the speed like? |
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| 01:43.50 | emss | Zeeflo ? |
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| 01:45.12 | emss | Zeeflo there is a package called sysstat that has some programs one of which allows you to view io statistics |
| 01:45.40 | emss | however it's all in /proc/ |
| 01:45.46 | emss | :) |
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| 02:16.31 | ectospasm | it wouldn't normally bother me, but logwatch complains about it every day. |
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| 02:43.29 | suppy | in a liveCD before the desktop appears, it asks me to create a root password. i avoided it by removing "nox11autologin" boot parameter. Now some scripts in /etc/init.d/ are not called. I want only the root password dialog not to show. Any suggestions ? |
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| 02:44.53 | suppy | for example network-manager is not run after i disable that boot parameter. If i know from where network-manager is called i can find what i need maybe. |
| 02:45.41 | suppy | i mean, how is network-manager is started after boot. |
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| 02:47.47 | Towzzer | is it a service? |
| 02:48.39 | LtL | suppy: looks like you avoided more than you bargained for. |
| 02:50.29 | suppy | LtL: from where i can configure the services that start after boot ? |
| 02:51.34 | LtL | suppy: typically using update-rc.d, howevr i am not familiar with whatever you are doing with live-cd's |
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| 02:53.19 | suppy | services are run from /etc/init.d/my_script_files.sh i guess. but looks like none of them are called now. do you know from where these are trigered ? |
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| 02:56.01 | LtL | suppy: yes, type: `ls /etc/rc*` displays runlevels. services that begin with K do not run, services beginning with S, run. |
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| 02:56.42 | LtL | suppy: they can be manipulated with update-rc.d |
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| 03:04.17 | suppy | LtL: rc* is what i needed. Thnx |
| 03:04.33 | LtL | suppy: my pleasure |
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| 04:08.50 | Rusty1 | !ops |
| 04:08.51 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. |
| 04:09.16 | marienz | Rusty1: note they're already being automatically thrown off the network |
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| 04:09.46 | Rusty1 | marienz: noted |
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| 04:11.05 | boudiccas | trying to set something up in my .bashrc which will give me time and date in bash history, using 'export HISTTIMEFORMAT=’%F %T ‘', but its coming back saying 'bash: export: `%T': not a valid identifier bash: export: `‘': not a valid identifier' can any gurus, or anyone else actually, help please? |
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| 04:11.49 | marienz | boudiccas: you're using rather odd quote characters there (for shell scripting) |
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| 04:12.13 | Rusty1 | marienz: perhaps a ban by an op ? |
| 04:12.36 | boudiccas | marienz: i'm just cutting and pastingg from 'http://linux.101hacks.com/command-line-history/display-timestamp-using-histtimeformat/' |
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| 04:13.06 | marienz | boudiccas: ew. You should leave whoever wrote that post a comment asking them to fix the quotes |
| 04:13.29 | marienz | boudiccas: replace both quotes with 'these' quotes |
| 04:14.40 | marienz | Rusty1: considering it, but I'd expect them to evade |
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| 04:15.25 | boudiccas | marienz: thanks, that does look neater and doiesnt throw up an error |
| 04:15.28 | marienz | boudiccas: actually, note the first comment (the "you mean" one) |
| 04:16.18 | tensorpudding | why has every repo i tried to use not had anything for wheezy/testing... |
| 04:16.18 | marienz | boudiccas: bash doesn't recognize those silly quotes as quotes, so as far as it's concerned you're setting HISTTIMEFORMAT to "’%F" and then trying to export %T, which doesn't work |
| 04:16.21 | tensorpudding | very frustrating |
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| 04:19.24 | EasyAsPie | hi |
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| 04:21.14 | boudiccas | this works well ...export HISTTIMEFORMAT="%h %d – %r " |
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| 04:50.57 | jeet | working on getting opencv program to work in debian on raspberry pi... i am currently compiling all the opencv... it takes forever, do i need to do this? or should i just compile the relevant parts of the library that i need to use to binary? any ideas or insights are greatly appreciated |
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| 04:58.16 | innmalint | I can't find an applet for xfce that can control the volume... |
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| 04:59.05 | jeet | working on getting opencv program to work in debian on raspberry pi... i am currently compiling all the opencv... it takes forever, do i need to do this? or should i just compile to binary the relevant parts of the library that i need to use? any ideas or insights are greatly appreciated |
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| 05:18.39 | talx | which pkg brings in less |
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| 05:18.54 | bitcycle | Hey all. I'm trying to log the right way using boost::log, and I'm wondering if I should be using "built-in" or "native" syslog logging mechanisms. Any thoughts? |
| 05:19.21 | emss | talx less |
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| 05:19.28 | emss | talx apt-file |
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| 05:19.55 | talx | emss:what do you mean by that |
| 05:20.09 | emss | less brings in less |
| 05:20.22 | talx | emss:i have more but i need less |
| 05:20.24 | emss | you can use apt-file to search for files in .debs |
| 05:20.40 | talx | emss:got you |
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| 05:21.10 | emss | and i don't mean about installed .debs |
| 05:22.07 | talx | emss:is that a rant or what |
| 05:22.20 | emss | ? |
| 05:22.53 | talx | emss:i have more but i need less |
| 05:23.02 | emss | less brings in less |
| 05:23.14 | talx | k |
| 05:23.15 | emss | `aptitude install less' |
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| 05:24.19 | talx | emss:no candidate fount for less |
| 05:24.29 | talx | found* |
| 05:26.05 | emss | talx are you using debian? is your sources.list correct? |
| 05:26.51 | talx | emss:i don't have a sources.list yet |
| 05:27.31 | emss | then you will need to manually install the less .deb |
| 05:28.16 | ectospasm | I'm using reprepro to maintain a partial mirror for Debian (Sid and Wheezy), and I get the following in my apache2/error.log: http://paste.debian.net/248006/ |
| 05:28.25 | ectospasm | it wouldn't normally bother me, but logwatch complains about it every day. |
| 05:28.31 | talx | emss:that is what the plan was reason why i ask which pkg brings less |
| 05:28.46 | LtL | talx: better yet, get a sources.list it is of paramount importance. |
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| 05:29.30 | talx | LtL:any way to search all deb repo atm |
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| 05:30.50 | emss | talx http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 05:31.21 | LtL | talx: http://packages.debian.org be aware theres about 20,000 of them. |
| 05:31.53 | talx | ok there i com web... |
| 05:32.29 | emss | talx might want to install apt-file to search locally |
| 05:32.37 | LtL | talx: without a /etc/apt/sources.list you are not getting updates, including security updates |
| 05:33.57 | jeet | working on getting opencv program to work in debian on raspberry pi... i am currently compiling all the opencv... it takes forever, do i need to do this? or should i just compile to binary the relevant parts of the library that i need to use? any ideas or insights are greatly appreciated |
| 05:33.58 | talx | LtL:sure, just working on something small will get there surely |
| 05:34.41 | jeet | I'm using a cmake command |
| 05:34.49 | jeet | it is building |
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| 05:45.06 | ectospasm | jeet: building on the RPi will take ages... you should use a cross compiler on a more powerful machine, then copy the binaries to the RPi... it will be MUCH faster that way. |
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| 06:29.11 | cousin_luigi | Greetings. |
| 06:29.17 | cousin_luigi | I need to create a user only for the remote execution of a command ('ip addr show'), using dsa credentials; how would you set the least possible privileges for that? |
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| 06:34.46 | emss | cousin_luigi not sure example maybe using selinux, apparmor, grsecurity and or chrooted environment |
| 06:35.36 | emss | maybe just a very basic chroot and sudo |
| 06:36.00 | cousin_luigi | emss: well, it's not that sensitive. All in all, I just need to obtain the address off an interface. Someone suggested me to use the ssh forced command feature. |
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| 06:37.16 | emss | ok i don't know about that |
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| 06:37.51 | emss | just make sure the program does not drop a shell e.g. vi/vim/emacs or whatever |
| 06:38.19 | cousin_luigi | ok |
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| 06:40.16 | wood_quinn | Is |
| 06:40.19 | wood_quinn | Oops. |
| 06:40.35 | wood_quinn | Is "When will Wheezy be released" a FAQ yet? |
| 06:40.37 | wood_quinn | :) |
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| 06:40.59 | cousin_luigi | bbl |
| 06:41.01 | wood_quinn | I know Debian doesn't have a specific release schedule. |
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| 06:41.47 | jalalsfs | How can I change the language from en_IN to en_US in debian? |
| 06:41.54 | ArtyG | So, what version of any given driver does Debian have? Whatever was newest at the time? Or whatever is stable? |
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| 06:43.11 | wood_quinn | Never mind, found my answer on testing's release description. |
| 06:46.17 | emss | jalalsfs dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 06:46.43 | emss | or you can change $LANG |
| 06:47.01 | emss | in your ~/.bashrc or something |
| 06:47.26 | jalalsfs | emss, I did this, but in /etc/default/locale it show two |
| 06:47.40 | jalalsfs | # File generated by update-locale |
| 06:47.41 | jalalsfs | LANG=en_US.UTF-8 |
| 06:47.41 | jalalsfs | LANGUAGE="en_IN:en" |
| 06:48.06 | jalalsfs | I want don't want en_IN |
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| 06:49.57 | jalalsfs | emss, Because when I update my system it shows me -en, en_In and en_US you can see it here https://paste.debian.net/248049/ |
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| 06:53.09 | emss | try `update-locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE' ? |
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| 08:09.21 | sianios | morning people, i have compiled and installed an application but now i want to uninstall it, how can i do this? |
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| 08:13.01 | digdilem | try make -uninstall in the build dir |
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| 08:18.55 | sianios | digdilem, i used the command sudo make uninstall and worked, thanks |
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| 08:20.07 | digdilem | :) |
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| 10:29.10 | nkuttler | !installit |
| 10:29.10 | dpkg | Your box does not come with every application, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
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| 10:29.30 | ectospasm | Lartza: are you running that as root? |
| 10:29.59 | Lartza | ectospasm, Thank you :) |
| 10:30.01 | ectospasm | On my system chroot lives in /usr/sbin |
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| 10:30.59 | ectospasm | Lartza: even though it is executable by non-root users (-; |
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| 10:32.03 | binbash_ | Hi guys |
| 10:32.27 | binbash_ | I installed Debian 7, but getting some kernel oops while booting. Wondering if any of you could point me in the right location. |
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| 10:33.10 | binbash_ | And i'm seeing this while booting: BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at ffff880127f344f0 |
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| 10:47.40 | Gusteru | anyone can help me please ? |
| 10:47.48 | ectospasm | !ask |
| 10:47.48 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 10:47.50 | Gusteru | ProFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration. |
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| 10:49.29 | Gusteru | ProFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration. can help me please ? |
| 10:49.44 | dokma | I forgot what's the purpose of double brackets in: if [[ -z "$1" ]]; |
| 10:49.48 | dokma | in bash scripting |
| 10:49.49 | ectospasm | I don't use ProFTPd |
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| 10:50.39 | ectospasm | dokma: man bash, search for \ |
| 10:50.57 | ectospasm | dokma: \[\[ |
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| 10:51.10 | dokma | found it |
| 10:51.12 | dokma | thank you |
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| 10:59.05 | Gusteru | ProFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration. can help me please ? |
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| 11:00.07 | ectospasm | Gusteru: this may help: http://www.debianadmin.com/proftpd-server-installation-and-configuration.html |
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| 11:54.25 | eptalon | hello all |
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| 11:56.59 | eptalon | I am using sid/unstable, and I am getting kernel error messages about a hard drive, are there any known porblems? |
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| 11:57.27 | eptalon | ata3.01: SError: { RecovComm PHYRd |
| 11:57.29 | eptalon | yChg CommWake DevExch } |
| 11:57.36 | abrotman | pastebin the full error |
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| 11:58.41 | asmageddon | Hello |
| 11:58.44 | syngress | hello, can someone help me with b43 driver in Debian |
| 11:58.46 | syngress | ? |
| 11:58.59 | asmageddon | What is the simplest way to configure samba to connect to windows shares? |
| 11:59.20 | eptalon | asmageddon: smbclient? |
| 11:59.28 | abrotman | asmageddon: with which OS? server and client? |
| 11:59.32 | tensorpudding | syngress: i know a bit about it, given that i just set up debian with one, so ask a question |
| 11:59.33 | abrotman | syngress: /msg dpkg b43 |
| 11:59.50 | asmageddon | All I want is to connect to files shared from Windows |
| 11:59.57 | abrotman | asmageddon: with which OS? server and client? |
| 11:59.57 | syngress | well i try my luck with this site: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 |
| 11:59.59 | asmageddon | I always used sshfs so no clue about samba |
| 12:00.06 | eptalon | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/chsZAm1t |
| 12:00.07 | abrotman | dpkg: tell syngress about b43 |
| 12:00.11 | asmageddon | Windows XP is/are the server(s) |
| 12:00.16 | asmageddon | Trying to connect from Debian |
| 12:00.24 | abrotman | asmageddon: use smbclient |
| 12:00.32 | tensorpudding | my own question: does anyone know if debian uses /etc/securetty for restricting root logins |
| 12:00.39 | syngress | sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer -> does not work for me :/ |
| 12:00.44 | abrotman | eptalon: a) backup your data b) reseat all cables c) if they continue, new drive |
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| 12:00.54 | asmageddon | Do I need to configure anything or is it zero-conf? |
| 12:01.33 | eptalon | abrotman: its part of a 4-drive RAID5. Ran a smart long offline tests, didn't find any errors? |
| 12:02.02 | abrotman | eptalon: okay, just giving you my opinion .. also note, it could be the hot-spare? |
| 12:02.07 | tensorpudding | syngress: what is your chipset |
| 12:02.29 | syngress | 02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) |
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| 12:02.45 | abrotman | the pciid would be more useful |
| 12:02.56 | abrotman | !tell syngress about bcm4318 |
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| 12:03.30 | abrotman | eptalon: seems like two drives .. i'd definitely try reseating cables |
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| 12:03.44 | eptalon | ok. |
| 12:03.59 | abrotman | is one of those PATA ? |
| 12:04.04 | eptalon | simplest way to backup 1.7T is an external usb drive, I guess? |
| 12:04.12 | abrotman | the DVD drive perhaps? |
| 12:04.13 | syngress | tensorpudding, i can't see wireless interface, i have only eth0 (witch is LAN) .. |
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| 12:04.36 | abrotman | ata3 seems to be a DVD drive ? |
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| 12:05.05 | tensorpudding | syngress: you probably need firmware |
| 12:05.12 | asmageddon | abrotman: So what do I do with smbclient? |
| 12:05.18 | abrotman | asmageddon: man smbclient |
| 12:05.25 | abrotman | eptalon: could also be a wonky controller |
| 12:05.44 | asmageddon | Ehh, so it's not like I can just install and use it... |
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| 12:06.28 | eptalon | abrotman: controller is onboard., drives are seagate ST2000DM001-9YN164, all SATA, 2TB. |
| 12:06.39 | asmageddon | Ehh, of course not like the man page contains a guide or example usage |
| 12:07.20 | syngress | tensorpudding, check prv .. |
| 12:07.29 | eptalon | asmageddon: what do you want to do? - smbclient is for mounting SMB shares in Linux, samba is for providing SMB shares. |
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| 12:07.51 | asmageddon | I just want to install something that will let my mother access samba shares through a file manager |
| 12:07.58 | asmageddon | Any of them, pcmanfm or thunar |
| 12:08.03 | asmageddon | preferably |
| 12:08.12 | eptalon | asmageddon: she uses windows? |
| 12:08.24 | asmageddon | Right now she's on my Debian box |
| 12:08.35 | eptalon | and you use windows? |
| 12:08.39 | asmageddon | Right now, yes |
| 12:08.47 | syngress | asmageddon, try vsftpd - more flexy and causes fewer problems |
| 12:08.53 | `Z` | dolphin does this ig I remember well |
| 12:09.38 | eptalon | asmageddon: i the long run, having the data on a linux box, and using windows to access it (samba) is easier. |
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| 12:10.32 | eptalon | abrotman: Seagate Barracuda, 2TB, 4k sectors. |
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| 12:11.43 | asmageddon | Thunar needs gvfs and gvfs-smb for samba shares |
| 12:11.50 | asmageddon | But I can't find gvfs-smb in debian repos |
| 12:12.37 | ootput | asmageddon: how are you searching for it? apt-file? |
| 12:12.45 | asmageddon | apt-cache search |
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| 12:14.07 | ootput | asmageddon: are you sure 'gvfs-smb' is a package name? |
| 12:14.29 | asmageddon | Nope, I read that on Arch wiki as a prerequisite for SMB support in Thunar |
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| 12:15.32 | eptalon | asmageddon: smbclient is the low-level (commandline) tool. unless otherwise specified, mount needs root privs though. |
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| 12:16.03 | asmageddon | What about just accessing samba shares from pcmanfm or Thunar? |
| 12:16.11 | asmageddon | Is that possible? |
| 12:16.20 | asmageddon | I suppose it is, both of them supporting samba |
| 12:16.22 | eptalon | asmageddon: if they are mounted, yes? |
| 12:16.38 | ootput | asmageddon: gigolo is a neat tool for browsing network shares |
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| 12:16.43 | asmageddon | So, I'm to tell my mom to type "sudo mount" if she wants her documents, eh? |
| 12:16.50 | asmageddon | I just want it to work like in explorer.exe :/ |
| 12:17.04 | ootput | - in fact, gigolo will open network locations in Thunar |
| 12:17.27 | eptalon | asmageddon: no, you edit the fstab, and specify the resp. shares as either automount, or user-mountable. |
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| 12:18.04 | asmageddon | But |
| 12:18.08 | asmageddon | Isn't there anything |
| 12:18.16 | asmageddon | That doesn't require any special configuration? |
| 12:18.27 | asmageddon | Just, install, and access them in a file manager |
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| 12:19.38 | ootput | regarding your earlier question, asmageddon, gvfs-backends is what you're looking for |
| 12:20.14 | eptalon | 1) If the fs is mounted, it can be accessed in any file manager, just like a local file system 2) if it isn't mounted, you can configure mount to allow user-mounting or automount at login 3) the easiest is probably using samba (and having the data on a linux machine); note however that samba also requires config. |
| 12:20.41 | asmageddon | God |
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| 12:20.49 | asmageddon | Even as a Linux user for the past 3 years and half |
| 12:20.52 | asmageddon | This is AWFUL :/ |
| 12:21.18 | eptalon | note, that it is basically the same for NFS... |
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| 12:25.03 | eptalon | ok, I'll go replugging my drives |
| 12:25.09 | eptalon | c yas |
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| 12:25.44 | asmageddon | Eh, I've got a horrid headache, I just want to get this to work |
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| 12:25.59 | asmageddon | No reboots, hopefully no special configuration |
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| 12:41.52 | onto | Hi! I am trying to encrypt a drive using the cryptsetup utility: I partition the desired drive (/dev/sdb1) as a primary parition (/dev/sdb1) and I use the cryptsetup utility to setup an encrypted volume. But as soon as the encryption is set, /dev/sdb1 fails to have a UUID and I cannot refer to it from /etc/crypttab |
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| 12:42.20 | onto | I am not using luks |
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| 12:47.09 | onto | luks extension* |
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| 12:49.09 | superlinux-hp | hi. i can switch between 2 keyboard layouts on gnome 2.3. but on 3 layouts I just cannot make the switching back to the 1st layout in the list of layouts. what should I do? |
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| 12:51.11 | syngress | OK so anyone know what happen, my b43 wireless card don't work, i have firmware, firmware is loaded, but if config shows no wireless interface :( |
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| 12:51.35 | syngress | *ifconfig |
| 12:51.47 | abrotman | what does 'dmesg' say about it |
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| 12:52.43 | syngress | http://pastebin.com/bKJcFCpE |
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| 12:54.20 | abrotman | looks like you have to configure it |
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| 12:54.41 | syngress | abrotman, what i need to do ? |
| 12:55.16 | abrotman | syngress: no need to msg me |
| 12:55.22 | syngress | ok |
| 12:56.14 | petn-randall | syngress: Does ifconfig -a show the device? |
| 12:56.35 | syngress | petn-randall, no - only loopback and wired connection |
| 12:56.36 | petn-randall | syngress: It looks to me it's just not up and connected. |
| 12:57.30 | syngress | well, bios shows that interface is UP |
| 12:57.41 | syngress | i mean, enabled |
| 12:58.02 | petn-randall | syngress: Do you have a switch for it? |
| 12:58.11 | syngress | yep, from keyboard |
| 12:58.19 | petn-randall | syngress: Turn it on. |
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| 12:58.50 | superlinux-hp | hi. i can switch between 2 keyboard layouts on gnome 2.3. but on 3 layouts I just cannot make the switching back to the 1st layout in the list of layouts. what should I do? |
| 12:58.53 | syngress | i try couple of times |
| 12:59.26 | superlinux-hp | that's using my keyboard shortcuts |
| 12:59.51 | syngress | petn-randall, nothig happen |
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| 13:04.06 | tensorpudding | how can i disable tracker |
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| 13:05.39 | tensorpudding | it's taking ridiculous cpu usage and has run for an hour without stopping |
| 13:06.12 | superlinux-hp | tensorpudding, killing it? |
| 13:06.19 | superlinux-hp | use the kill command |
| 13:06.26 | tensorpudding | that would not guarantee that it doesn't start next time |
| 13:06.38 | petn-randall | tensorpudding: What kind of tracker? |
| 13:06.45 | syngress | abrotman, petn-randall , any ideas ? |
| 13:06.50 | tensorpudding | http://projects.gnome.org/tracker/ |
| 13:07.00 | Quest | how can I restrict users to only use one command ("passwd") to just be able to change their password. and cannot do anything else in console? how is it possible? |
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| 13:08.11 | petn-randall | syngress: No idea. |
| 13:09.01 | syngress | same interface works well in winXP :/ |
| 13:09.05 | petn-randall | tensorpudding: Either deinstall it, or remove it from the autostart of your user. |
| 13:11.06 | petn-randall | syngress: paste the output of iwconfig, ifconfig -a and rfkill list. The package of the last one is also called rfkill. |
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| 13:14.41 | syngress | http://pastebin.com/jWsDDqkJ |
| 13:14.52 | syngress | http://pastebin.com/1cYtugpr |
| 13:15.00 | syngress | http://pastebin.com/EaDMeUBp |
| 13:15.37 | syngress | here you go |
| 13:17.06 | petn-randall | syngress: Earlier you told me there's only loopback and wired connection. And in those pastes I see wlan0, your wireless. |
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| 13:17.53 | juyy | Will DEbIaN run on a Intel Celeron M Processor 360 1.40GHz? |
| 13:18.28 | petn-randall | juyy: yes. |
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| 13:18.38 | syngress | yep ifconfig shows only eth0 and lo - ifconfig -a shows wireless interface too |
| 13:18.49 | juyy | petn-randall: Will it be okay? It's single core |
| 13:18.59 | petn-randall | juyy: I already said yes. |
| 13:19.23 | juyy | petn-randall: How do you know? |
| 13:19.35 | juyy | I'm worried I might mess it up, it's soooo old. |
| 13:19.40 | juyy | I found it in the garage |
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| 13:19.52 | petn-randall | syngress: Ok, so your device is there and working. It's just that you have it blocked by a software switch. |
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| 13:20.12 | Quest | how can I restrict users to only use one command ("passwd") to just be able to change their password. and cannot do anything else in console? |
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| 13:20.27 | syngress | petn-randall, what do you think - my Wicd manager block it ? |
| 13:20.37 | syngress | (block it in some way) ? |
| 13:20.48 | petn-randall | syngress: check rfkill's man page, you can temporarily unblock it by CLI. You'll have to find out why the keyboard press doesn't unblock it, though. |
| 13:21.24 | juyy | Quest: you can't |
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| 13:22.03 | Quest | juyy, rssh? |
| 13:22.14 | petn-randall | juyy: I know because Debian runs on 486 and newer. |
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| 13:24.39 | syngress | allright - i hit the button once again - and try to rfkill list |
| 13:24.44 | syngress | and what ? |
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| 13:24.54 | syngress | 1: phy1: Wireless LAN |
| 13:24.54 | syngress | Soft blocked: no |
| 13:24.54 | syngress | Hard blocked: no |
| 13:25.05 | syngress | but still nothing happen :-/ |
| 13:25.08 | petn-randall | syngress: don't paste in the channel, please |
| 13:25.31 | syngress | ok |
| 13:25.38 | petn-randall | syngress: Your device is unblocked, now use any network manager to configure your connection. |
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| 13:26.39 | syngress | petn-randall, my device is unblocked - still ifconfig shows no wireless interface and my Wicd network manager cant see any wireless networks |
| 13:26.58 | petn-randall | syngress: ifconfig DOES SHOW YOUR DEVICE. |
| 13:27.06 | syngress | ifconfig -a |
| 13:27.09 | syngress | yes |
| 13:27.16 | petn-randall | syngress: You just don't haven't configured it. |
| 13:27.50 | petn-randall | syngress: your device can be UP or DOWN. If it's down, ifconfig won't show it, only ifconfig -a. |
| 13:28.10 | petn-randall | syngress: So you need to configure it with wicd or network-manager, or by hand if you want. |
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| 13:30.50 | HelenaKitty | hey |
| 13:30.57 | HelenaKitty | http://paste.debian.net/248079/ |
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| 13:35.34 | syngress | petn-randall, how can i configure it when my manager don't see wireless interface |
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| 13:35.36 | syngress | ?? |
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| 13:38.11 | project2501b | does debian have something that can make a "golden repo" much like a golden image? |
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| 13:38.31 | project2501b | i work with scientists and often enough they site the package/software version in their papers |
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| 13:38.45 | project2501b | i need to create VMs with the smae package/software versions they use. |
| 13:38.48 | project2501b | kicks ompaul |
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| 13:39.17 | ompaul | oh kvm oh kvm it works for me oh kvm |
| 13:39.35 | ompaul | project2501b: ^^ that that's what you get for teenage kicks |
| 13:39.48 | project2501b | yeah, too bad scientists cannot find their arse with both their hands. |
| 13:39.56 | project2501b | kvm is simply not an option |
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| 13:40.09 | project2501b | i had to spend two days training people to use VirtualBox |
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| 13:40.25 | ompaul | project2501b: then on your head be it |
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| 13:40.42 | HelenaKitty | Guys? |
| 13:40.50 | ompaul | troll? |
| 13:40.50 | Quest | how can I restrict users to only use one command ("passwd") to just be able to change their password. and cannot do anything else in console? its for just giving them sftp acces. how is it possible? |
| 13:40.51 | project2501b | yeeeeees? |
| 13:41.00 | HelenaKitty | I've been battling this Xorg problem for atleast a year now. |
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| 13:41.04 | HelenaKitty | cause nobody will help me |
| 13:41.13 | acu | hello guys - is anyone in here installed kolab3 mail groupware in wheezy ? It seem I can get in web kolab-webadmin but cannot add first user etc... |
| 13:41.15 | project2501b | did you try to feed it? |
| 13:41.18 | HelenaKitty | I can't just reinstall if I can't backup my stuff :/ |
| 13:41.48 | HelenaKitty | I think it could be permissions in /dev but idk what to set em to. |
| 13:41.54 | ompaul | rsync -ave ssh /local/path me@other.computer:/path/to/backup game over |
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| 13:43.01 | ompaul | HelenaKitty: boot off a live cd and happyness will ensue now please go away before I call a grumpy op |
| 13:44.01 | HelenaKitty | ... |
| 13:44.13 | ompaul | Quest: sftp should allow them run a passwd command |
| 13:45.06 | ompaul | acu: ask your real question (and no I never installed kolab3) |
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| 13:46.00 | Quest | ompaul, i want to run sftp but no other commands |
| 13:46.00 | ompaul | acu this points to your problem but is the exact issue a match, only you can tell http://docs.kolab.org/en-US/Kolab_Groupware/3.0/html/Community_Installation_Guide/chap-Community_Installation_Guide-First_Login.html |
| 13:46.09 | Quest | ompaul, ecept passwd |
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| 13:47.28 | ompaul | Quest: problem with that is sftp needs to spawn programs to run and needs to be able to touch the file system best you can do is chroot the users into their own home |
| 13:47.42 | ompaul | s/programs/processes |
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| 13:49.01 | ompaul | Quest: but you might look jhere also http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/94 |
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| 14:01.21 | Quest | ompaul, thx! |
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| 14:01.59 | ToApolytoXaos | guys, for VLC package who's responsible or where can i report a bug? |
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| 14:02.54 | petn-randall | ToApolytoXaos: use the reportbug CLI, and on packages.debian.org you can find the package and info all around it. |
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| 14:08.33 | padhu | debians, i need debian logo font and debian logo for stickering in my helmet |
| 14:08.54 | padhu | where can i get it? |
| 14:09.04 | gusnan | padhu, http://www.debian.org/logos/ |
| 14:09.22 | jiohdi | ToApolytoXaos, VLC is made by developers in France last I heard. try videolan.org |
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| 14:10.41 | petn-randall | jiohdi: It's usually best to report a bug to the maintainer, and let him/her bring it upstream. |
| 14:10.58 | jiohdi | videolan.org makes vlc yes? |
| 14:11.11 | petn-randall | jiohdi: correct. |
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| 14:14.45 | padhu | gusnan: Images having background of white, How can i get only font & logo? |
| 14:15.08 | mbruins | any quesses on when there will be a next stable? |
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| 14:15.46 | jiohdi | rumor was that wheezy would be released for easter... does not look like they made it |
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| 14:15.47 | dvs | mbruins: I know exactly when. When there are no critical release bugs. |
| 14:15.49 | jerry66 | http://www.reddit.com/r/xadultxmoviesxdating/comments/1buoth/german_amateur_girl_loves_anal/ |
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| 14:16.00 | mbruins | dvs: sounds legit |
| 14:16.13 | jiohdi | debian is very stubborn that way |
| 14:16.31 | gusnan | padhu, try the "Gimp" one, it is layered. |
| 14:16.34 | EmleyMoor | jiohdi: It's now entered final stage of freeze |
| 14:16.36 | jiohdi | I have been using wheezy for at least a couple of weeks now, no complaints |
| 14:16.47 | mbruins | jiohdi: same here. |
| 14:16.54 | mbruins | EmleyMoor: cool thanks, nice to know |
| 14:17.07 | padhu | gusnan: Is it possible to download font, then we can cut the sticker required size |
| 14:17.13 | jiohdi | you can upgrade from squeeze to wheezy with relative ease |
| 14:17.21 | mbruins | nods |
| 14:17.26 | ompaul | jiohdi: mbruins make sure you both do a full dist-upgrade regularly |
| 14:17.37 | gusnan | padhu, I don't know unfortunately - Someone else here might know... |
| 14:17.37 | ompaul | once it's stable go to upgrade |
| 14:17.42 | EmleyMoor | squeeze to wheezy was probably the easiest upgrade yet. |
| 14:17.54 | EmleyMoor | My new laptop was wheezy from day one. |
| 14:18.05 | mbruins | ompaul: thanks ill give it try |
| 14:18.11 | padhu | gusnan: okey, i will try...., Thanks |
| 14:18.30 | jiohdi | ompaul, dist-upgrade does what exactly? |
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| 14:18.53 | mbruins | upgrade your distro ;x |
| 14:18.56 | ompaul | jiohdi: keeps you up to date, if there is a squeeze package replaced it happens - this does not happen with upgrade |
| 14:19.15 | jiohdi | so once you are on wheezy, you still need to do that? |
| 14:19.19 | ompaul | jiohdi: less critical now we have the freeze but still the best testing |
| 14:19.29 | ompaul | practice is to do so - so yes |
| 14:19.30 | mbruins | so no estamates yet? i know its released when finished bla bla. but no rumors so far? |
| 14:19.51 | ompaul | mbruins: when it's ready is the best rumour evaaaa |
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| 14:19.59 | mbruins | haha true |
| 14:20.04 | EmleyMoor | Always WIR, SIYH |
| 14:20.29 | jiohdi | dist-upgrade reports 0 upgraded 0 newly installed 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded, so I think I am good |
| 14:20.49 | ompaul | today - try again tomorrow |
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| 14:20.58 | jiohdi | should be done every day? |
| 14:21.17 | ompaul | I do it every few days less than a week more than a day usually |
| 14:21.22 | mbruins | jiohdi: naw just do your regular update. en check debian.org for when the new release is |
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| 14:21.38 | EmleyMoor | is rebooting his PBX after the latest update- |
| 14:21.45 | mbruins | EmleyMoor: gl |
| 14:22.01 | jiohdi | I really like wheezy, feels like debian finally near the cutting edge rather than way way back |
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| 14:22.23 | EmleyMoor | First machine I've built in a long time with no CD or DVD drive |
| 14:22.37 | mbruins | EmleyMoor: nice |
| 14:22.43 | mbruins | remote all the way |
| 14:23.28 | ompaul | jiohdi: best advise I can give you is this, learn to do things the debian way, that is read the wiki / site to be sure you have the right way to do things, learn apt-cache policy / show / search and friends - apt-file and list-bugs and so on |
| 14:23.30 | EmleyMoor | Four HDDs, and it would be perfectly OK locked away somewhere. As it is, it's in an otherwise wasted corner of the room |
| 14:23.37 | petn-randall | jiohdi: Don't forget to do apt-get update first, else you'll have a stale package list. |
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| 14:23.55 | mbruins | yarr ofc |
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| 14:24.20 | EmleyMoor | suspects there's some fscking going on |
| 14:24.21 | jiohdi | petn-randall, every time (^_^) |
| 14:24.56 | blixten | i have a custom kernel with grsec, how do i exclude all the generic kernels the system wants to download and install with apt-get upgrade |
| 14:25.16 | mbruins | if i would like to learn/read something about the lvm install encryption where should i go? i googled it but so far no good hits. any suggestions? |
| 14:25.17 | EmleyMoor | blixten: Do your own build the Debian way? |
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| 14:25.29 | jiohdi | so far the only problem I have had is with XBMC, it freezes randomly |
| 14:25.31 | EmleyMoor | mbruins: I've used it once... |
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| 14:26.09 | mbruins | EmleyMoor: im using it now. but thats generic from the install. i dont understand it at all.. so i would like to read u |
| 14:26.13 | mbruins | s/u/up |
| 14:26.30 | EmleyMoor | mbruins: Ah, you want more in depth than I know... |
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| 14:27.03 | blixten | EmleyMoor: what ya mean? |
| 14:27.04 | mbruins | :) |
| 14:27.25 | EmleyMoor | blixten: Are you using make-kpkg to build your kernel? |
| 14:28.34 | jiohdi | does debian have an official pkg like remaster to back up an entire install to a live cd? |
| 14:28.41 | petn-randall | blixten: Just deinstall them? There's no point in keeping obsolete kernels on your system if you don't want to upgrade them. |
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| 14:29.59 | blixten | EmleyMoor: no im doing it the manual way, via kernel.org |
| 14:30.04 | petn-randall | mbruins: The wheezy installer allows an encrypted LVM with root + swap in it. You just have to make sure /boot is on a seperate, unencrypted partition. |
| 14:30.05 | blixten | petn-randall: thats what im asking :D |
| 14:30.14 | blixten | i cant deinstall it |
| 14:30.21 | blixten | due to locked down kernel |
| 14:30.21 | petn-randall | blixten: Of course you can. |
| 14:30.22 | EmleyMoor | blixten: Using make-kpkg may help |
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| 14:30.34 | petn-randall | blixten: What's a "locken down kernel"? |
| 14:30.41 | petn-randall | s/locken/locked/ |
| 14:30.42 | blixten | pathced with grsecurity |
| 14:30.46 | blixten | patched* |
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| 14:30.55 | petn-randall | ??? |
| 14:31.07 | blixten | it a securitypatch, for kernels |
| 14:31.20 | blixten | so major changes like install new kernel is not permitted |
| 14:31.23 | petn-randall | blixten: So grsecurity is stopping you from removing packages? I think somethings broke there ... |
| 14:31.37 | blixten | it's only the kernel, other packages is fine to install |
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| 14:32.27 | petn-randall | blixten: I've never used grsecurity, you'll have to check their docs how to circumvent that. |
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| 14:33.13 | blixten | yeah well, im wounder how i just disable the kernel update thingy with apt-get |
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| 14:33.58 | petn-randall | blixten: Why cover up the symptom? |
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| 14:34.26 | blixten | im not? |
| 14:34.32 | blixten | i have a custom kernel im pleased with |
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| 14:34.47 | ToApolytoXaos | blixten, disable your updates then |
| 14:34.52 | blixten | so i dont want any other shit that comes with apt-get |
| 14:34.58 | petn-randall | blixten: You've got several old kernels installed, which you can neither upgrade nor remove. I'd see that as a major PITA. |
| 14:35.02 | blixten | ToApolytoXaos: you mean all of them? |
| 14:35.08 | ToApolytoXaos | yes |
| 14:35.14 | ToApolytoXaos | and choose when you run updates |
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| 14:35.27 | blixten | i run em manualy |
| 14:35.45 | petn-randall | blixten: This is not Windows, you either want to remove the packages or upgrade them. There's no point in having obsolete stuff installed on your system. |
| 14:35.48 | blixten | just with apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade it wants to download everything |
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| 14:36.21 | ToApolytoXaos | blixten, this is the command you want |
| 14:36.28 | blixten | so there is not possible to exclude kernel updates from debian? |
| 14:36.32 | ompaul | blixten: so you have stuff you need to install - and allow it to remove stuff |
| 14:36.41 | ToApolytoXaos | run: echo "<package-name> hold" | dpkg --set-selections |
| 14:36.41 | ompaul | blixten: it is a stupid thing to do |
| 14:37.09 | ompaul | or else we are not being told the full story |
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| 14:37.24 | petn-randall | blixten: I'm with ompaul on this one. |
| 14:37.37 | ghost75 | whats wrong with new kernel? |
| 14:38.08 | blixten | because i already got a custom made one? |
| 14:38.14 | blixten | and i dont think it's stupid at all |
| 14:38.20 | ghost75 | then make new custom |
| 14:38.46 | blixten | what i have done is, install debian, kept the kernel that comes with the system; built a new kernel that is patched |
| 14:39.18 | blixten | booted in to that new kernel, and keeping the old one that came with the install just in case something happends with the new custom one when i make changes in it |
| 14:39.25 | petn-randall | blixten: We get all that. But what's the point in keeping last year's stock Debian kernel on the system? |
| 14:39.28 | blixten | i wanna be able to dualboot between those two |
| 14:39.45 | blixten | does it matter? since it's not booted to that kernel |
| 14:40.25 | dvs | blixten: So you can remove the kernel you're currently using? |
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| 14:40.57 | blixten | if i boot the system into the old kernel that came with the install, yes |
| 14:41.22 | ompaul | blixten: what matters is the way you are trying to do it |
| 14:41.31 | ompaul | leave all kernels there but allow upgrades |
| 14:41.45 | ghost75 | u can keep multiple kernels |
| 14:41.45 | ompaul | blixten: then you have some historical kernels |
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| 14:42.26 | blixten | ghost75: yes i know, i have two kernels |
| 14:42.29 | ompaul | blixten: but because of the way you stated the issue, rather than saying the end product is this you choose a route suggest it and get told it's not the best idea since sliced bread |
| 14:42.39 | blixten | but im not permitted to update kernels when im running the patched one |
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| 14:43.14 | blixten | and i dont wanna reboot the system (need physical access to it aswell) everytime debian wants to upgrade a kernel (the one that came with te system) |
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| 14:43.36 | ompaul | blixten: make a vm on your home box - work with it |
| 14:43.36 | dvs | blixten: I can see you not being allowed to upgrade the kernel you're currently running. |
| 14:43.57 | blixten | ompaul: good answer |
| 14:43.58 | ompaul | also version numbers might be the issue |
| 14:44.04 | blixten | not at all |
| 14:44.32 | ompaul | blixten: something in the way you are saying stuff isn't gelling well, and I can't lay my finger on exactly what it is. |
| 14:44.48 | blixten | i have told you what it is |
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| 14:45.35 | ompaul | blixten: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade << pastebin in http://paste.debian.net the actual output |
| 14:45.38 | ompaul | please |
| 14:45.50 | ompaul | or we can leave it alone 100% |
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| 14:46.14 | ompaul | don't hit the upgrade y just the output |
| 14:46.57 | blixten | you wanna know what kernel version it wants to upgrade to? |
| 14:47.29 | subthalamus | this may not be a right place to ask but I can't seem to figure out a problem with an optical drive |
| 14:48.12 | subthalamus | sudo dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/tmp/1.iso gives me this "dd: reading `/dev/sr0': Input/output error" |
| 14:49.01 | ompaul | subthalamus: (A) test with audio disk if you have speakers (B) check if data is on a known good cd /dvd as appropriate (C) as for your use of sudo, sudo -i will make you root and then the rest of the command should work |
| 14:49.27 | petn-randall | subthalamus: either the drive can't read, or your drive has a different device name. |
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| 14:50.25 | ompaul | subthalamus: and what petn-randall said |
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| 14:52.32 | ghost75 | petn-randall: remember that story with rsync and p2v ? |
| 14:52.39 | subthalamus | mplayer -cdrom-device /dev/cdrom cdda:// plays the cd fine though |
| 14:52.45 | subthalamus | theres something I'm missing |
| 14:53.12 | petn-randall | subthalamus: does /dev/cdrom point to /dev/sr0? Also, check /var/log/kern.log for error messages. |
| 14:53.26 | petn-randall | ghost75: Nope. |
| 14:53.42 | dvs | subthalamus: ls -l /dev/cdrom |
| 14:53.51 | ghost75 | from physical machine with md-raid to vm with non-raid |
| 14:54.11 | subthalamus | they all point to sr0 |
| 14:54.18 | ghost75 | it worked like u said with rsync |
| 14:54.28 | subthalamus | the kern log has something lemme pastebin |
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| 14:55.42 | subthalamus | http://pastebin.com/14QbkKwV |
| 14:56.05 | ghost75 | i was just wondering one more thing, if a physical machine with md-raid (level1) is copied to a virtual machine with also md-raid, how that could be done? |
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| 15:01.21 | subthalamus | my goal was to create an iso image of a damaged audio cda cd |
| 15:01.26 | subthalamus | using readom |
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| 15:01.43 | touki | Hi guys, some trouble here. |
| 15:01.47 | subthalamus | but both dd and readom can't seem to read anything I put in the drives |
| 15:02.06 | subthalamus | s/drives/drive |
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| 15:03.03 | touki | I have a bug that forbid me to access to the trash with gnome. I don't want to solve the bug now, don't have time. But I want to recover a file within the trash, how can I ? |
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| 15:04.51 | babilen | touki: Check ~/.local/share/Trash/ |
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| 15:05.20 | subthalamus | any ideas petn-randall dvn_? |
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| 15:08.40 | HelenaKitty | I want to know what package xkeyboard-config is a part of. |
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| 15:09.08 | HelenaKitty | I thought it was part of xkb-data but it's not. |
| 15:09.40 | rmzelnick | http://pastebin.com/5eHipz7E |
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| 15:10.12 | Quest | why theres a need to adduser to a group of its own name? why not add most users to one group only? |
| 15:11.19 | HelenaKitty | Guys I need to run xkeyboard-config but it doesn't exist. :/ |
| 15:11.31 | touki | babilen: great ;) |
| 15:11.41 | rmzelnick | http://pastebin.com/5eHipz7E |
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| 15:12.17 | HelenaKitty | I also tried googling around and used APT to search for a package. |
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| 15:13.29 | rmzelnick | HelenaKitty Could you post your error msg? |
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| 15:13.41 | HelenaKitty | rmzelnick: That's hard |
| 15:13.58 | rmzelnick | HelenaKitty How so? |
| 15:14.00 | HelenaKitty | rmzelnick: it just says command not found when I run xkeyboard-config |
| 15:14.08 | HelenaKitty | cause I am not in X. |
| 15:14.19 | HelenaKitty | and pastebinit is a piss take |
| 15:14.33 | rmzelnick | HelenaKitty Why won't you get in X? |
| 15:14.42 | HelenaKitty | because I can't start x |
| 15:14.55 | HelenaKitty | I want to know how to start xkeyboard-config please. |
| 15:15.06 | HelenaKitty | It says command not found. |
| 15:15.07 | rmzelnick | HelenaKitty ~/.xinitrc |
| 15:15.09 | HelenaKitty | ... |
| 15:15.15 | HelenaKitty | rmzelnick: yeah I know |
| 15:15.19 | HelenaKitty | I put my WM in there |
| 15:15.32 | HelenaKitty | and that has always worked |
| 15:15.38 | HelenaKitty | rmzelnick: it starts as root |
| 15:15.51 | HelenaKitty | rmzelnick: and if you scroll up you will see I posted my log file ages ago |
| 15:16.02 | HelenaKitty | but some ompaul guy was being rude so I left. |
| 15:16.32 | acu | hello guys - what is the /etc/selinux/semanage.conf ? I want to make the se linux permisive - I just have clear installation of wheezy - but want to make sure no se linux is enabled and stuff ? |
| 15:17.25 | rmzelnick | HelenaKitty Did you install xkb? |
| 15:17.33 | HelenaKitty | rmzelnick: yep |
| 15:17.40 | HelenaKitty | I installed xkb-data |
| 15:17.46 | HelenaKitty | xkb doesn't exist |
| 15:17.57 | Quest | why theres a need to adduser to a group of its own name? why not add most users to one group only? |
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| 15:22.26 | HelenaKitty | :/ |
| 15:22.29 | HelenaKitty | this is annoying |
| 15:23.10 | mtn | HelenaKitty: aptitude search xkb finds xxkb, would that help? |
| 15:23.26 | HelenaKitty | oh |
| 15:23.57 | HelenaKitty | mtn: didn't help |
| 15:24.04 | HelenaKitty | :/ |
| 15:24.15 | mtn | HelenaKitty: don't know then |
| 15:24.38 | HelenaKitty | oh |
| 15:24.56 | HelenaKitty | mtn: I've been at this problem for like a year now. |
| 15:25.12 | HelenaKitty | WTF aptitude?! |
| 15:25.15 | HelenaKitty | so I do... |
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| 15:25.27 | HelenaKitty | aptitude install xkeyboard-config |
| 15:25.40 | HelenaKitty | it removes console-tools or something like that |
| 15:25.44 | HelenaKitty | then installs xxkb |
| 15:25.46 | HelenaKitty | weird |
| 15:26.01 | HelenaKitty | still no xkeyboard-config command |
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| 15:27.50 | HelenaKitty | my bad I accidentally reinstalled xxkb lol |
| 15:27.57 | babilen | HelenaKitty: Why do you think that you have to run that command? No file of that name is in Debian. |
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| 15:28.59 | HelenaKitty | babilen: I need xkeyboard-config |
| 15:29.02 | babilen | Why? |
| 15:29.07 | HelenaKitty | it says it's in xkb-data package |
| 15:29.16 | rmzelnick | HelenaKitty Hold on a bit |
| 15:29.17 | babilen | What says that? |
| 15:29.17 | HelenaKitty | cause X wont start due to misconfigured xkeyboard |
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| 15:29.33 | HelenaKitty | it says missing xkeyboard-config |
| 15:29.41 | babilen | Ah, now we are getting somewhere. Do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf or anything in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ ? |
| 15:29.52 | babilen | HelenaKitty: Where does "it" say that? |
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| 15:30.08 | rmzelnick | HelenaKitty yea |
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| 15:30.37 | acu | any selinux hints for wheezy ? |
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| 15:30.44 | HelenaKitty | I don't have I don't have an xorg.conf.d |
| 15:30.46 | acu | I just to make sure is disable |
| 15:30.54 | rmzelnick | http://pastebin.com/5eHipz7E |
| 15:30.58 | rmzelnick | babilen |
| 15:31.05 | acu | setstatus does not work |
| 15:31.10 | HelenaKitty | babilen: says in the logs |
| 15:31.13 | babilen | HelenaKitty: xkeyboard-config is a source package from which xkb-data is built. Would you mind showing me the log file with the error in question and the outout of "dpkg -l xkb-data" on http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 15:31.31 | HelenaKitty | I can't |
| 15:31.33 | babilen | dpkg: pastebin.com |
| 15:31.34 | dpkg | pastebin.com mangles input, takes forever to load, makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads. Please use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 15:31.41 | HelenaKitty | I said pastebinit is a piss take and doesn't work |
| 15:31.45 | babilen | HelenaKitty: Why is that? What prevents you from doing that? |
| 15:31.52 | HelenaKitty | it just outputs the address to the paste home page |
| 15:32.03 | babilen | dpkg: nopaste |
| 15:32.03 | dpkg | nopaste is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install libapp-nopaste-perl; nopaste /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | nopaste". |
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| 15:33.17 | babilen | rmzelnick: I don't quite understand how that output is related to HelenaKitty's problem (or to anything really). Would you mind to elaborate on that? |
| 15:33.37 | rmzelnick | babilen I have that problem myself, and I need help. |
| 15:33.37 | HelenaKitty | I am |
| 15:33.44 | HelenaKitty | but... |
| 15:33.50 | HelenaKitty | you have to give my computer time. |
| 15:34.07 | Shadow` | \\\ |
| 15:34.13 | HelenaKitty | juyy: Please don't PM me with support, you're just going to confuse me. |
| 15:34.16 | HelenaKitty | Thank you! |
| 15:34.22 | babilen | rmzelnick: Which problem exactly? |
| 15:34.33 | rmzelnick | Read the post |
| 15:34.34 | rmzelnick | http://pastebin.com/5eHipz7E |
| 15:34.47 | rmzelnick | I can't install debian from my live USB |
| 15:35.04 | HelenaKitty | exec -o nopaste /home/failsafe/Xorg.0.log |
| 15:35.12 | HelenaKitty | damn |
| 15:35.13 | HelenaKitty | rite |
| 15:35.16 | HelenaKitty | http://pastie.org/7352832 |
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| 15:35.27 | babilen | dpkg: tell rmzelnick -about usb install wheezy |
| 15:35.27 | HelenaKitty | there |
| 15:35.31 | babilen | dpkg: tell rmzelnick -about install wheezy |
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| 15:35.59 | babilen | rmzelnick: Try the instructions in the installation guide. I have no idea what that YUMI tool is you refer to and I /still/ don't understand how your problem is related to HelenaKitty's problem. |
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| 15:36.11 | HelenaKitty | What? |
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| 15:36.46 | rmzelnick | As stated before it isn't, thank you for the intstructions though |
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| 15:36.56 | benedikt | Has anyone here used virtual machines with 3d acceleration to play games? |
| 15:37.09 | juyy | benedikt: stupid idea |
| 15:37.13 | babilen | HelenaKitty: How are you attempting to start Xorg? What is the output of "dpkg -l xdg-data" and do you have /any/ files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ or a /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? |
| 15:37.21 | HelenaKitty | exec -o dpkg -l xkb-data |
| 15:37.25 | HelenaKitty | fml |
| 15:37.30 | benedikt | juyy: thats what i thought. I just don't like the idea of dual booting |
| 15:37.38 | juyy | benedikt: Why? |
| 15:37.48 | HelenaKitty | Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold |
| 15:37.48 | HelenaKitty | | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |
| 15:37.48 | HelenaKitty | |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) |
| 15:37.48 | HelenaKitty | ||/ Name Version Architecture Description |
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| 15:37.53 | babilen | wtf |
| 15:37.54 | juyy | lol |
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| 15:37.57 | HelenaKitty | WTF?! |
| 15:38.03 | benedikt | juyy: i like to leave my computer on and come back to it as-is. Dual booting requires constant rebooting |
| 15:38.05 | HelenaKitty | I thought | = pipe to command |
| 15:38.06 | HelenaKitty | ? |
| 15:38.12 | benedikt | juyy: and that is a hassle. |
| 15:38.14 | babilen | HelenaKitty: Haven't we talked about pastebin's already? |
| 15:38.18 | HelenaKitty | I did |
| 15:38.21 | HelenaKitty | but... |
| 15:38.23 | rmzelnick | However I am able to boot into my live usb environment, when I double-click on the installer icon on the desktop I don't get any installtion window. So I cat'ed the launcher icon and I ran the command from it in the terminal, and that paste is what I got |
| 15:38.25 | benedikt | HelenaKitty: | links stdin and stdout of processes. |
| 15:38.26 | rmzelnick | babilen |
| 15:38.34 | HelenaKitty | How do I pipe to nopaste? |
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| 15:38.43 | rmzelnick | | |
| 15:38.47 | HelenaKitty | ... |
| 15:38.47 | babilen | rmzelnick: Which live usb environment is that? |
| 15:38.53 | HelenaKitty | it outputted the command into the channel |
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| 15:39.05 | rmzelnick | cat xorg.0.log | nopaste |
| 15:39.07 | babilen | HelenaKitty: You simply pipe into nopaste "cmd | nopaste" -- It is as easy as that. |
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| 15:39.14 | HelenaKitty | babilen: yeah |
| 15:39.18 | rmzelnick | babilen XFCE |
| 15:39.20 | HelenaKitty | but then it outputs into the channel too |
| 15:39.28 | HelenaKitty | I am trying to do this from Irssi |
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| 15:39.54 | juyy | Why is using webchat in Firefox using 100% CPU?! |
| 15:40.10 | babilen | rmzelnick: XFCE is a desktop environment not a "live usb environment" (whatever that might be) -- Would you mind starting from the beginning? If you want to install Debian from a USB stick then /please/ follow the isntructions in the installation guide. |
| 15:40.17 | HelenaKitty | sighs |
| 15:40.24 | HelenaKitty | forget I'll do it the hard way instead. |
| 15:40.26 | HelenaKitty | 1min... |
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| 15:40.38 | babilen | HelenaKitty: Just run it on a command line if you cannot get irssi to behave like you want it to. |
| 15:40.52 | HelenaKitty | yeah |
| 15:40.55 | HelenaKitty | that's the hard bit |
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| 15:40.58 | HelenaKitty | which is how I am doing it now |
| 15:41.03 | petn-randall | juyy: Because it's probably a crappy javascript that's executed all the time? |
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| 15:41.07 | babilen | HelenaKitty: It might also help if you could simply answer my questions. Is xkb-utils installed? How do you try to start Xorg? |
| 15:41.12 | rmzelnick | babilen 1. I got the iso into the USB using YUMI 2. booted into the live usb env 3. double-click installer icon on the desktop 4. Nothing happens |
| 15:41.30 | babilen | rmzelnick: What is YUMI? |
| 15:41.33 | HelenaKitty | http://pastie.org/7352909 |
| 15:41.36 | HelenaKitty | babilen: yep it is |
| 15:41.48 | rmzelnick | Multiboot creator |
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| 15:41.55 | HelenaKitty | infact... |
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| 15:42.04 | HelenaKitty | xkb-utils isn't an existing package |
| 15:42.06 | babilen | rmzelnick: We neither recommend nor support that. Do you want to install Debian? |
| 15:42.08 | HelenaKitty | according to APT |
| 15:42.15 | juyy | babilen: he's using Fedora |
| 15:42.16 | HelenaKitty | I am using the UK debian mirror |
| 15:42.17 | babilen | yeah, meant xkb-data |
| 15:42.22 | rmzelnick | babilen Yes, from a USB stick |
| 15:42.28 | HelenaKitty | babilen: yeah that's installed |
| 15:42.46 | HelenaKitty | I am aware that's the package with xkeyboard-config in it |
| 15:43.00 | HelenaKitty | I reinstalled it, I purged it, etc, etc |
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| 15:43.59 | babilen | rmzelnick: So, follow the instructions in the installation guide. Debian ships hybrid images that you can copy/cat /directly/ to the usb stick. You would therefore use something like "cp debian.iso /dev/sdX ; sync" with debian.iso being the image you downloaded from Debian and /dev/sdX being something like /dev/sdb and the block device of your usb stick. use "dmesg|tail -n23" after you plug in the usb stick to find out what the block device is. ... |
| 15:44.05 | babilen | ... (you /do not/ want /dev/sdb1 or something like that) |
| 15:44.11 | babilen | HelenaKitty: So, how do you start X? |
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| 15:44.17 | HelenaKitty | start |
| 15:44.20 | HelenaKitty | and I tried xinit |
| 15:44.21 | babilen | "start" ? |
| 15:44.24 | HelenaKitty | startx |
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| 15:44.35 | jmd | On wheezy, something keeps messing with /etc/resolv.conf on reboot. |
| 15:44.51 | HelenaKitty | jmd: I have that problem |
| 15:45.02 | HelenaKitty | it's annoying when the name servers get updated in that file |
| 15:45.03 | babilen | jmd: resolvconf, network-manager, dhclient, .... lots of suspects there |
| 15:45.07 | HelenaKitty | but forget that for now |
| 15:45.18 | babilen | jmd: How do you configure your network? |
| 15:45.21 | HelenaKitty | cause... I want to fix X and don't want to be confused |
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| 15:45.37 | jmd | babilen, Which aspect of the network are you talking about? |
| 15:45.40 | babilen | HelenaKitty: Then pay attention to your problem and keep quiet when other people say something. |
| 15:45.48 | HelenaKitty | Sorry |
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| 15:46.58 | babilen | jmd: Presumably you have configured your network configuration somewhere. there are various possibilities where you could have done that and it also depends on the network type you connect to (wired, wireless). You could, for example, have configuration in /etc/network/interfaces or you could use a tool such as network-manager. In both cases you might use a static configuration or DHCP. |
| 15:47.15 | babilen | jmd: That is all assuming that you are actually connected to /some/ network. |
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| 15:47.28 | jmd | Yes I use /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 15:47.54 | babilen | jmd: Ok, and do you configure your interface statically or via DHCP? |
| 15:47.59 | jmd | DHCP |
| 15:49.01 | babilen | jmd: DHCP typically contains information about nameservers as well and /etc/resolv.conf is updated accordingly. Do you want to define a specific set of DNS servers? |
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| 15:49.51 | jmd | No. The nameservers are correct. But I want a default domain. |
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| 15:50.03 | juyy | babilen: |
| 15:50.26 | jmd | I keep adding a default domain to /etc/resolv.conf but it has gone when I reboot. |
| 15:50.39 | babilen | jmd: For example: You might get the information that "192.168.0.1" is the DNS server to use in your network, but you would much rather like to use "1.2.3.4" |
| 15:51.02 | HelenaKitty | babilen: so... |
| 15:51.04 | HelenaKitty | is that it? |
| 15:51.09 | HelenaKitty | or... |
| 15:51.20 | jmd | babilen, I'm quite happy with the nameserver. but dont want it to delete the default domain I specified. |
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| 15:53.50 | lakcaj | Is debsums the preferred method to verify the integrity of an installed package? |
| 15:54.11 | petn-randall | lakcaj: Yes, it does the job. |
| 15:54.40 | lakcaj | petn-randall, thanks, just confirming |
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| 15:55.28 | Ruint | HelenaKitty: ohi XD |
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| 15:57.59 | babilen | jmd: So, configure it accordingly. See http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#The_resolvconf_program on how to set the nameserver. You can set the default domain with "dns-search example.com" -- See http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration |
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| 15:59.05 | babilen | HelenaKitty: What do you have in /etc/default/keyboard ? |
| 15:59.41 | HelenaKitty | http://pastie.org/7353099 |
| 15:59.43 | HelenaKitty | okies |
| 15:59.48 | HelenaKitty | idk what's in it |
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| 16:02.26 | babilen | HelenaKitty: And once again: You have no /etc/X11/xorg.conf and nothing in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ ? |
| 16:02.32 | HelenaKitty | nope |
| 16:02.37 | HelenaKitty | no xorg.conf.d dir |
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| 16:03.03 | HelenaKitty | no xorg.conf file |
| 16:03.08 | HelenaKitty | never have had one before |
| 16:03.14 | HelenaKitty | I've been using Linux since 2007 |
| 16:03.19 | HelenaKitty | never ever had those |
| 16:03.27 | babilen | HelenaKitty: A ~/.xsession file (or a legacy ~/.xinit ?) |
| 16:04.29 | HelenaKitty | I have those babilen |
| 16:04.33 | HelenaKitty | those are what I use |
| 16:04.37 | babilen | HelenaKitty: A simple "no" is sufficient. It cuts down on clutter and makes it easier for me to find your answers again. So, you boot Debian and then run "startx" as your user. The log you pasted is the content of /var/log/Xorg.0.log /after/ you've done that? Is that correct? |
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| 16:05.00 | HelenaKitty | babilen: Yep |
| 16:05.02 | babilen | HelenaKitty: What is the content of those files? Really, you only want ~/.xsession and you definitely don't want anything different in there. |
| 16:05.19 | jeward | Hi, I've got an ooooold server with a lenny install. How can I bring it up to date? |
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| 16:05.46 | jeward | I need a sources.list that will allow me to upgrade it. |
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| 16:06.03 | babilen | dpkg: tell jeward -about release notes |
| 16:06.08 | HelenaKitty | babilen: I don't have a .xsession file but I have a .xsession-errors |
| 16:06.09 | babilen | dpkg: tell jeward -about lenny->squeeze |
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| 16:06.37 | babilen | HelenaKitty: And no ~/.xinitrc as well? |
| 16:06.49 | jeward | babilen: Thanks! |
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| 16:08.03 | babilen | HelenaKitty: And are you sure that that is the output of "startx" and not, say, "xinit" ? |
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| 16:08.31 | HelenaKitty | babilen: That output is from startx |
| 16:08.35 | babilen | ack |
| 16:08.55 | HelenaKitty | App::Nopaste::Service::Pastie: Could not construct paste link. |
| 16:08.55 | HelenaKitty | App::Nopaste::Service::ssh: No NOPASTE_SSH_SERVER set |
| 16:08.56 | HelenaKitty | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5686656/ |
| 16:08.57 | HelenaKitty | ... |
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| 16:09.07 | HelenaKitty | geez |
| 16:09.09 | HelenaKitty | sorry |
| 16:09.27 | HelenaKitty | I hope that link works. |
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| 16:09.42 | babilen | It does |
| 16:10.06 | HelenaKitty | okies |
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| 16:10.47 | babilen | Ok, please mv that file out of the way. Would you then run "aptitude update ; aptitude install xorg" and tell me if that installs anything in addition to what you have already installed? Please run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" after that and answer the question to the best of your knowledge. |
| 16:10.53 | HelenaKitty | that .xinitrc file has always worked for me |
| 16:10.58 | HelenaKitty | okies |
| 16:11.55 | babilen | HelenaKitty: I would also like to point out that this way of invoking Xorg is probably no longer supported and that I would recommend to use one of gdm3, kdm or lightdm (/no/ other display manager is supported). If you absolutely cannot stand that then please install libpam-ck-connector. |
| 16:12.24 | HelenaKitty | babilen: I don't want a desktop manager. |
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| 16:13.20 | thoonai | hi having trouble with my bridge |
| 16:13.22 | babilen | HelenaKitty: You mean a display manager? |
| 16:13.30 | HelenaKitty | babilen: yes |
| 16:13.51 | HelenaKitty | I like using the good old classive login. |
| 16:13.51 | thoonai | I wanted to brigde my wlan with my tun device |
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| 16:13.56 | HelenaKitty | *classic |
| 16:14.00 | thoonai | but now eth0 ist gone too |
| 16:14.02 | thoonai | :| |
| 16:14.15 | babilen | HelenaKitty: As I said: Your setup is not really supported anymore and you will, most likely, run into problems. It might suffice to install libpam-ck-connector ... but either way. Please answer my earlier questions so that we can continue. I will leave in some time and we might have some ground to cover. |
| 16:14.42 | blubberdiblub | babilen, what does it mean "no other display manager is supported"? if they are in the standard debian repos, aren't they supported to the extent that normal packages are supported? |
| 16:15.43 | babilen | blubberdiblub: No, I will write something in the wheezy release notes and I am not crazy enough (and it would probably be too late in the release cycle already) to fight for the removal of slim et. al. |
| 16:15.44 | Dewi | babilen: is usage over ssh or vnc also unsupported? There are a few times display managers don't really seem to apply? |
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| 16:16.14 | Dewi | (admittedly I've never been totally clear if I was launching them the right way) |
| 16:16.47 | babilen | blubberdiblub: Those three are the only display managers (to my knowledge) that correctly setup a consolekit and dbus session. All others /do not work/ for various reasons. I plan to check the status on console login with libpam-ck-connector soon, but we /might/ end up discouraging users from using that too. |
| 16:17.24 | blubberdiblub | babilen, hmm, that's unfortunate, since i'm using slim. and i am most happy with it. i will read your writings in the release notes then |
| 16:17.25 | babilen | blubberdiblub: I agree that it would be cleaner to remove all not-working/broken display managers (xdm, slim, ...) but I don't have enough time to push that through. |
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| 16:18.11 | acu | how can I check SE status in wheezy ? |
| 16:18.18 | acu | sestatus |
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| 16:18.43 | babilen | blubberdiblub: Let me dig up the relevant bug report: In short: slim is not capable of interacting with consolekit in a supported way and the official recommdation will most likely be: "Do no use it" -- You can see the effect of that problem if you run "ck-list-sessions" (paste that if you are interested and use consolekit) |
| 16:19.06 | HelenaKitty | babilen: What was the earlier question? |
| 16:19.17 | HelenaKitty | sorry parents are throwing tasks at me |
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| 16:20.02 | HelenaKitty | libpam-ck-connector is already installed. |
| 16:20.39 | babilen | blubberdiblub: Hmm, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=614749 claims that the problem has been fixed. Would you mind showing me the output of "ck-list-sessions" with a current slim setup? |
| 16:20.44 | blubberdiblub | babilen, https://paste.debian.net/248100/ maybe i don't use anything that requires the session to be carried on properly and that's why i don't have any problems? |
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| 16:21.07 | babilen | blubberdiblub: That looks fine ! |
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| 16:21.52 | blubberdiblub | babilen, that's with slim package 1.3.4-2 |
| 16:22.07 | babilen | blubberdiblub: Oh, that is good news and I will have to investigate that further. The problem was that certain sessions weren't marked as "is-local = TRUE" which then caused problems with certain daemons that required a local user to allow configuration (e.g. network-manager) |
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| 16:22.19 | babilen | judd: v slim |
| 16:22.21 | judd | Package: slim on i386 -- squeeze: 1.3.1-8; sid: 1.3.4-2; wheezy: 1.3.4-2 |
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| 16:23.17 | blubberdiblub | babilen, well, yes, i don't use network-manager. so that would explain why i never noticed problems with that when the problem was present |
| 16:23.18 | babilen | blubberdiblub: Great that you mentioned it. I have to discuss this with pkg-utopia (the consolekit maintainers) and slim maintainer's, but if that is the case it looks as if we can actually recommend/keep slim. |
| 16:23.27 | thoonai | I can't bridge my vpn with my wireless interface. ny idea why its crashing? |
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| 16:24.13 | blubberdiblub | babilen, yes, that sounds promising indeed |
| 16:24.50 | babilen | HelenaKitty: I asked you to run "aptitude update ; aptitude -r install xorg" along with "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" -- Please inform me if the former installs any additional packages. I am also waiting for the test results /without/ your ~/.xinitrc in place. (btw, you do /not/ want to use ~/.xinitc but ~/.xsession) |
| 16:24.56 | babilen | dpkg: tell HelenaKitty -about .xsession |
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| 16:27.05 | invariant | How can I run a program as if cron runs it? |
| 16:27.30 | invariant | So, I don't want to run the program in the current shell, but I want it to look as if cron is running it. |
| 16:27.55 | HelenaKitty | babilen: so move contents to .xinitrc to .xsession ? |
| 16:28.03 | petn-randall | invariant: Just use cron?? |
| 16:28.04 | invariant | The reason is simple: I have an @reboot rule, and I want to apply the same effect 'now' (meaning before the reboot). |
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| 16:28.36 | babilen | HelenaKitty: Yes, but I want you to test /without/ either ~/.xsession or ~/.xinitrc ... but generally speaking: You want ~/.xsession and not ~/.xinitrc |
| 16:28.40 | jelly-home | invariant: the obvious, stupid way, is to create a cron job that runs two minutes from now instead of @reboot. |
| 16:28.57 | HelenaKitty | okies |
| 16:30.26 | HelenaKitty | babilen: Exactly the same problem when starting X and yes I did it without .xinitrc and it is still complaining about xkeyboard-config being missing. |
| 16:30.29 | HelenaKitty | brb |
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| 16:31.43 | babilen | I bid you farewell ... Have a good Sunday evening folks. |
| 16:32.05 | HelenaKitty | back |
| 16:32.09 | babilen | blubberdiblub: Thanks for the pointer. I will have to investigate that further, but it is good to have noticed that the bug has been closed. |
| 16:32.12 | HelenaKitty | babilen: okies |
| 16:32.20 | HelenaKitty | :/ |
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| 16:33.11 | invariant | jelly-home, do you think that I am interested in the stupid way? |
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| 16:34.27 | Guest28211 | what are the best linux tools to hack facebook, that is to recoverone's accont after being hacked |
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| 16:37.29 | acu | does anyone know a simple to install mail server - that has also webclient ? |
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| 16:37.48 | acu | simple to install mailserver that runs on debian wheezy |
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| 16:38.14 | ghostlines | exam, but you can use any client with it |
| 16:38.15 | Towzzer | you can combine postfix, dovecot, and roundcube |
| 16:38.23 | ghostlines | *exim |
| 16:39.20 | ghostlines | never heard of roundcube it looks sleek |
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| 16:40.06 | jelly-home | I wouldn't call running your own mailserver the right way "simple" |
| 16:40.24 | bezaban | running mail servers require some time and attention |
| 16:40.28 | eevar | how/where do I tell debian that my system's clock is using local time, not utc? |
| 16:40.32 | hub2 | Hi,Why sendmail takes up to 1 minute to send an email? |
| 16:40.55 | eevar | all the info turned up by google is ancient and outdated.. |
| 16:41.01 | acu | I used Kolab (they integrate postfix cyrusIMAP etc - with kolab-wemmanager and roundcube) however I got a bitch of blocker, do not know how to pass over it - on wheezy kolab3 I cannot add users - there are few things mentioned there - tried all - no joy - |
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| 16:47.32 | thoonai | I could need some help setting up my bridge |
| 16:48.30 | ghostlines | thoonai, what's the prob? |
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| 16:49.32 | thoonai | ghostlines: I have an tun/tap device and need to bridge it with another interfeace (wlan0) |
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| 16:52.07 | gnude | hello, i installed a debian 6.0 from dvd on a p4 mainboard with intel graphic. now i have problems. i think it is this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=599375 my question: the debian dvd was debian 6.0.0, i installed without internet. is the bug removed in debian 6.0.7 so i would download this dvd. or must i wait for debian 7? |
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| 16:55.13 | jeet | hi i am a new user and trying to execute some opencv code from terminal and got: "(source:2422): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:" Do I need to install a gui package? Do I need to be in the GUI environment with 'startx'? Any ideas? |
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| 16:55.54 | thoonai | ghostlines: shocked? |
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| 16:56.34 | ghostlines | thoonai, guess you got bridge-utils installed already add the IP address settings of the tun/tap and add wlan0 as the bridge port |
| 16:56.48 | ghostlines | yeah I'm shocked haven't done this yet |
| 16:56.51 | jelly-home | invariant: I think, nay, hope that each user here is: trying to solve a problem, instead of trying to solve a problem in a specific way. |
| 16:57.23 | ghostlines | I also have a tun device for ipv6 setup but didn't think on bridging it till now, now I only use my bridge for VM's |
| 16:57.28 | thoonai | ghostlines: sometimes people tel me im doing extraordanary stupid things :| so I asked :| |
| 16:57.56 | invariant | jelly-home, I did not specify any constraints. |
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| 16:58.31 | invariant | jelly-home, I have now picked a solution which is longer, but that does work. |
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| 17:00.33 | thoonai | ghostlines: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5686817/ |
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| 17:01.14 | hub2 | Could you help me with that i don't have logs since i upgraded to testing from stable? |
| 17:01.30 | invariant | Instead of cron, I think it would be better to have something which would restart the program if it ever crashed too. |
| 17:01.44 | invariant | E.g. if it would be killed by OOM. |
| 17:02.01 | invariant | (or any other 'abnormal' condition) |
| 17:02.21 | invariant | I think cron would be the place to solve such problems too. |
| 17:02.28 | invariant | Does cron have such features? |
| 17:02.42 | invariant | (I never heard of them) |
| 17:02.51 | jelly-home | invariant: I don't think cron is meant to start and manage services. |
| 17:03.54 | invariant | jelly-home, what is? (besides 'erlang') |
| 17:03.57 | jelly-home | invariant: something like daemontools, runit, monit or systemd might be more worth looking at |
| 17:04.59 | ghostlines | thoonai, not sure if you have to add the vpn0 to the bridge ports line, but this looks like it's worth a try. What's the result from this setup? |
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| 17:05.18 | thoonai | doing nothing |
| 17:05.30 | jelly-home | invariant: it's relatively easy to set up arbitrary checks with monit and let it restart a service if it's down |
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| 17:06.29 | ghostlines | hmm remove the vpn0 from the bridge ports line and only add the IP address settings of the vpn0 interface |
| 17:06.41 | hub2 | Could you help me with that i don't have logs since i upgraded to testing from stable? |
| 17:06.49 | thoonai | ghostlines: ? |
| 17:07.01 | thoonai | just deleting vpn0? |
| 17:07.05 | ghostlines | yeah |
| 17:07.20 | ghostlines | only wlan0 on that line to test |
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| 17:07.41 | ghostlines | and I assume the ip address settings that are xxx.ed out are the vpn0 settings? |
| 17:08.17 | thoonai | ghostlines: yes |
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| 17:08.58 | ghostlines | yeah try it like that, that's how I bridged my eth0 should work the same for any other interface I suppose |
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| 17:10.42 | Quest | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:12.47 | harrison | what could cause a call to posix_memalign() to return ERRNOMEM when there is plenty of memory and other applications run perfectly? |
| 17:13.14 | harrison | this call is from a non-C language FFI wrapper |
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| 17:13.54 | harrison | and the error does not occur on all linux systems |
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| 17:14.41 | harrison | but (afaik) only on mine, with kernel 3.8-5.towo-siduction-amd64 x86_64 |
| 17:15.40 | harrison | is posix_memalign() sensitive to its parameters in such a way? |
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| 17:17.57 | thoonai | ghostlines: meh :| doesn't work |
| 17:18.34 | ghostlines | hmm, so the VPN has another range I wan't the wlan0 to share this? |
| 17:18.47 | ghostlines | * and you want |
| 17:19.22 | ghostlines | maybe you might have to set your client IP's static |
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| 17:20.17 | thoonai | ghostlines: the vpn client has a static ip |
| 17:20.28 | ghost75 | how much memory is needed for wheezy std install without X ? |
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| 17:21.42 | jacklk | Hello, I have Intel GMA X4500 integrated graphics chip, how do I install a driver for it on Debian? There are so many methods, I want this to work it's best. Intel doesn't provide a driver to install. What shall I do? |
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| 17:22.42 | ghostlines | thoonai, ahhh maybe you're not even allowed to get more than one vpn IP. A friend of mines had that issue once |
| 17:23.05 | thoonai | ghostlines: no problem, im the vpn-creator |
| 17:23.08 | ghostlines | the company set it up that way that you only get one IP. Is this VPN controlled by you or a someone else |
| 17:23.12 | ghostlines | ahhh |
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| 17:23.46 | ghostlines | what you using openvpn? |
| 17:24.10 | ghostlines | I find this interesting I could try and set this up and get back to you |
| 17:24.49 | thoonai | ghostlines: no peervpn |
| 17:25.00 | thoonai | ghostlines: peervpn.net |
| 17:25.18 | jacklk | Anyone? |
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| 17:25.30 | holycow | hi guys |
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| 17:25.48 | thoonai | ghostlines: it may be that I'm afk for an hour soon :| |
| 17:25.59 | holycow | i have a box whose ethernet connection keeps on going down. what logs should i be checking to see what might be going on? |
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| 17:29.17 | ghostlines | thoonai, I saw that wlan0's setup was manual but where are the settings for it could you post that as well |
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| 17:32.41 | ghostlines | thoonai, scratch that I guess that's just the xxx.out vpn ip settings as well |
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| 17:34.13 | thoonai | ghostlines: I read that the connected interfaces mustn been configured |
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| 17:34.29 | thoonai | so possibly the vpn disturbs it? |
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| 17:37.39 | ghostlines | no, I think your right |
| 17:38.00 | ghostlines | cuz my eth0 that I bridged isn't configured separately either, only in the bridge |
| 17:38.19 | thoonai | but the vpn mut be configured :| |
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| 17:39.11 | Quest | more elaboration : this config http://pastebin.ca/2352079 in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config is not letting the openssh server to startup. whats wrong in it? i commented the out to make it work. now ssh server is runing. the only logs i get is ssh status stop/waiting and Invalid user plant from 116.212.190.6 . if i follow this http://www.serverubuntu.it/SFTP-chroot it says this http://pastebin.ca/2352109 |
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| 17:40.04 | ghostlines | thoonai, I assume clients can at least authenticate to wlan0? |
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| 17:40.29 | ghostlines | but are just not able to talk to other hosts on the vpn subnet? |
| 17:40.30 | thoonai | ghostlines: yes I can connect to wlan0 |
| 17:40.36 | thoonai | ghostlines: yes |
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| 17:40.49 | thoonai | I configured the ap with hostapd already |
| 17:41.35 | jeet | how to transfer c++ sources from windows to linux machines? |
| 17:41.36 | ghostlines | and assigned the wifi clients static ips |
| 17:42.10 | ghostlines | if that's the case then I think something is up with your peervpn setup |
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| 17:44.39 | ghostlines | but I still don't think vpn0 should be on the bridge port line(even though that didn't fix the prob yet) once you put the IP range of the vpn in the bridge settings it'll know which interface to bridge |
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| 17:46.38 | thoonai | ok i deleted it and restart |
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| 17:46.59 | thewanderer1 | hi. I have an old PC with Debian Squeeze installed, but the kernel is i686. the machine needs at most i586 (is a Pentium MMX). also, it has only 32MB of RAM and is run off CF cards (got no CF readers, too). what would be the preferred method of putting the right kernels on it? |
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| 17:47.34 | thewanderer1 | I'm looking at the live CD's, but I'm not sure if they will manage to boot on 32MB |
| 17:47.54 | jelly-home | I have two devices providing /dev/ttyUSB*, are there any fixed device node paths for those like for disks? |
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| 17:48.44 | thoonai | jeet: ? you mean you want to compile it or transfer the data |
| 17:48.57 | jelly-home | apparently, /dev/serial/by-id/* |
| 17:49.51 | thoonai | ghostlines: nope doesn't work |
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| 17:50.04 | thewanderer1 | jelly-home, probably only works for serial devices (consoles) - I can't see any on my Wheezy machine with a webcam on USB only |
| 17:50.42 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: yes, ttyUSB* _are_ serial devices |
| 17:50.57 | thewanderer1 | oh, right, mind slip ;) |
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| 17:52.22 | jelly-home | /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Prolific_Technology_Inc._USB-Serial_Controller-if00-port0 might be long as hell, but it's going to work as long as I only have one of those. |
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| 17:55.17 | bezaban | is it safe to grab bind9 from wheezy on squeeze? |
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| 17:57.32 | jelly-home | bezaban: nope |
| 17:57.44 | jmd | bezaban, No. If you do that, the world will end. |
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| 17:58.18 | bezaban | what's the suggested route for getting off 9.7.3 then? |
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| 17:59.02 | bezaban | and to a version which the recent vunerabilities do not apply |
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| 18:00.17 | jelly-home | bezaban: debian takes care of security fixes for squeeze in the version available in squeeze. That being taken care of, what do youneed from 9.7.3? |
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| 18:00.24 | bezaban | a compile of bind without regexp support would work, but was trying to avoid that |
| 18:00.33 | bezaban | no fix will be released for bind 9.7.3 |
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| 18:00.53 | jelly-home | bezaban: which CVE number do you worry about? |
| 18:00.56 | bezaban | they might have compiled it without regexp for me though |
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| 18:02.18 | jeet | thoonai transfer the data, i can use putty sftp for this? |
| 18:02.30 | bezaban | CVE-2012-4244 |
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| 18:02.47 | hub2 | Could you help me with that sendmail logs errors "unable to qualify my own domain name" |
| 18:02.48 | thoonai | jeet: sure |
| 18:02.49 | bezaban | no wait |
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| 18:03.01 | ghost75 | if i add usb modules into mkinitramfs, is it then possible to boot from a usb md device? |
| 18:03.11 | bezaban | sorry |
| 18:03.12 | bezaban | CVE-2013-2266 |
| 18:03.41 | jelly-home | bezaban: /msg dpkg cve lookup CVE-2013-2266 |
| 18:03.41 | bezaban | https://kb.isc.org/article/AA-00871 |
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| 18:04.15 | bezaban | oh that's handy. thanks |
| 18:04.16 | bezaban | Debian/stablepackage bind9 is vulnerable. |
| 18:04.53 | jelly-home | bezaban: and below that, squeeze (security)1:9.7.3.dfsg-1~squeeze10fixed |
| 18:05.10 | bezaban | aaaah. great :D |
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| 18:07.33 | bezaban | thanks jelly-home, learned how to check for myself next time :) |
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| 18:11.02 | jelly-home | bezaban: also, /msg dpkg tracker of doom |
| 18:11.20 | thoonai | ghostlines: do you set up such a setup like me? |
| 18:11.31 | jeet | reading a tutorial, confused here: The browse window that opens is automatically set to look for .ppk files, so from the File Type drop-down menu select All Files, find the SSH private key that we've sent you and that you have saved on your local computer. |
| 18:11.39 | jeet | using Putty key generator |
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| 18:18.19 | ghostlines | thoonai, no I haven't, won't be able to today |
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| 18:20.37 | thoonai | meh |
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| 18:21.06 | thoonai | ghostlines: I comment it out and try another way using bridge-utils |
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| 18:39.01 | jeet | hi i am logged into the linux machine through pftp. but i can't seem to figure out how to transfer the files. |
| 18:39.20 | abrotman | did you type "help" ? |
| 18:39.29 | jeet | i tried put filename |
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| 18:42.22 | jeet | i get -bash put command not found |
| 18:44.03 | thewanderer1 | hmm, I've just inserted a (supposedly) blank CD into my DVD recorder and both Brasero and K3B seem to think it only has 83.3 MB left (10:00:00 minutes)... what gives? |
| 18:45.06 | gcr` | thewanderer1: How do you know it's blank? |
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| 18:46.09 | thewanderer1 | gcr`, well, there is no content shown after opening it in Nautilus, and K3B labels it as "Blank CD-R" |
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| 18:49.36 | thewanderer1 | another medium, a new DVD-RW, shows the full 4.4GB |
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| 18:58.27 | MO_Handes | how to know if a package is installed? |
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| 19:02.39 | thewanderer1 | MO_Handes, `apt-cache policy <packagename>`, or `dpkg --list <packagename>` are some possible solutions |
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| 19:12.24 | MO_Handes | how to list all the packages that are manually installed? |
| 19:13.06 | jeet | hi i am running a c++ program with g++ myProgram.cpp |
| 19:13.12 | jeet | how do i tell it to link to the opencv library stuff? |
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| 19:17.51 | jeet | which goes like this |
| 19:17.52 | jeet | g++ --ggdb `pkg-config --cflags opencv` - `basename $i .cpp` $i `pkg-config --libs opencv; |
| 19:18.19 | MO_Handes | what is the package for installing jre? java6-runtime or jre-default ? |
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| 19:24.53 | touki | Any idea about h5py having trouble for writing within big files + 1GB ? |
| 19:24.54 | touki | Any idea about h5py having trouble for writing within big files + 1GB ? |
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| 19:27.52 | touki | got this |
| 19:27.59 | touki | http://paste.debian.net/248137/ |
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| 19:30.23 | tintin | hi |
| 19:30.25 | thewanderer1 | guys, I'm trying to boot Debian install CD 1 i386 on an i586 machine and it just freezes after choosing any option - same symptoms when trying to boot i686... is there anything I'm missing here? |
| 19:31.37 | thewanderer1 | (background: I already have a Debian i386 with i686 kernels installed, and it hangs on boot attempts the same way that booting from CD does - i.e. the machine becomes completely unresponsive and no I/O LEDs flash) |
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| 19:32.33 | tintin | hey guys, trying to boot with an encrypted / (only dm-crypt without luks) with an unencrypted boot, but bootloader (grub) does not seem to recognize the / device. / and /boot are separate devices. any help? |
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| 19:35.57 | abrotman | thewanderer1: a -686 kernel won't work on a 586 box? |
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| 19:36.21 | thewanderer1 | abrotman, well, yes... I thought the installer would have a -486 one at least, and would boot |
| 19:37.19 | abrotman | it does |
| 19:37.27 | thewanderer1 | oh wait, now that I chose expert mode (so that the kernel prints all messages), something seems to be happening... maybe it was just Linux acting up, pretending to be really quiet |
| 19:37.48 | abrotman | maybe you hit the mute button? |
| 19:37.57 | thewanderer1 | now, to make it run with just 32MB of memory... |
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| 19:39.50 | thewanderer1 | I've booted the installer and launched a shell - where do I find the kernels in the d-i filesystem please? I need to transfer a -486 kernel to the box... |
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| 19:40.04 | abrotman | thewanderer1: you might have to rewind a few releases to get it to work in 32MB during the installer |
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| 19:40.35 | thewanderer1 | well, what I really need to do is give it a kernel to run, then I'll sort out the rest on-disk |
| 19:41.06 | abrotman | it should choose the -486 |
| 19:42.09 | thewanderer1 | I know the installer won't run, but I already have a userspace on the disk, only somehow I had managed to choose i686... and reinstalling takes 12 hours on these CF cards |
| 19:42.38 | thewanderer1 | so if I could just grab a kernel and an initrd and copy it over to the pre-existing unbootable system, that would be great |
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| 19:44.01 | ompaul | thewanderer1: chrooted install but if the box is that underpowered it most likely would be better off being turned off and left off and you get something much higher spec |
| 19:44.15 | ompaul | even secondhand |
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| 19:44.45 | thewanderer1 | chrooted indeed - but I need to obtain the kernels from somewhere, and the installer CD seems a good source, no? :) |
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| 19:44.53 | abrotman | the installer CD has them |
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| 19:46.16 | thewanderer1 | oh, I see - I need to get to the "detect and mount the CD" step? |
| 19:46.30 | thewanderer1 | (couldn't find it mounted at the first glance) |
| 19:46.52 | knut_ | Bonsoir à tous, j'essaye d'installer cakePHP sur un raspberry pi, quelqu'un aurait 5 minutes ? |
| 19:47.08 | ompaul | !fr |
| 19:47.10 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr. |
| 19:47.22 | thewanderer1 | ompaul, btw. resurrecting an old machine - no higher spec available for this piece of history :P |
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| 19:48.15 | ompaul | thewanderer1: a waste of time and energy ime and I'm not sticking my tongue out at you brilliant repost to a raspberry |
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| 20:17.11 | vampi-the-frog | hi guys. sshd is refusing my public keys, I've tried both linux ssh and putty, and I've tried connecting to another server as well, and all points that my debian ssh server is refusing keys all of a sudden. Public key auth worked until recently. Not sure what I did, maybe an upgrade, but I have my public keys in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys and not sure what else I can do to fix the server refusing my keys |
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| 20:18.13 | somiaj | vampi-the-frog: have you checked /etc/ssh/sshd_config? Also have you checked the output of ssh -vvv user@server |
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| 20:18.34 | vampi-the-frog | I have PubkeyAuthentication yes in /etc/ssh/sshd_config - not sure what else to add |
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| 20:18.49 | somiaj | did you restart the server after adding that? |
| 20:18.53 | vampi-the-frog | yep |
| 20:19.02 | vampi-the-frog | gonna restart it again just for kicks |
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| 20:19.24 | somiaj | well check ssh -vvv user@server and then maybe /var/log/auth.log |
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| 20:22.45 | vampi-the-frog | http://pastebin.com/3Rmvga8W |
| 20:22.51 | vampi-the-frog | I have no idea what it's doing |
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| 20:28.56 | ompaul | vampi-the-frog: so you want to log into your localhost |
| 20:29.17 | vampi-the-frog | no, that's just because I'm on windows right now |
| 20:29.33 | vampi-the-frog | I'm waiting for an installer to finish so I can't reboot to linux |
| 20:29.51 | vampi-the-frog | but the same thing happened, I added the public key to authorized_keys |
| 20:30.03 | vampi-the-frog | some forum says this has to do with selinux |
| 20:30.15 | ompaul | selinux - you using redhat ? |
| 20:30.21 | vampi-the-frog | nope, debian |
| 20:30.23 | ompaul | fedora or centos? |
| 20:30.35 | vampi-the-frog | debian wheezy |
| 20:30.37 | ompaul | did you enable selinux? |
| 20:30.43 | vampi-the-frog | don't think so |
| 20:30.56 | ompaul | I'll take that as a no, then it has nothing to do with selinux |
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| 20:31.16 | vampi-the-frog | elsewhere it is suggested that I run sshd in the foreground |
| 20:31.21 | vampi-the-frog | how does one do that? |
| 20:31.26 | ompaul | vampi-the-frog: by smoking crack |
| 20:31.34 | ompaul | that;s not a clever idea |
| 20:31.40 | vampi-the-frog | just for testing |
| 20:31.43 | vampi-the-frog | to see the debug output |
| 20:31.50 | ompaul | vampi-the-frog: still not clever |
| 20:32.02 | ompaul | because it is not how it works in production |
| 20:32.02 | vampi-the-frog | well how can I find out what's going on? |
| 20:32.33 | ompaul | vampi-the-frog: two linux boxes - if you have to use a virtual machine on your windows so be it |
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| 20:32.58 | ompaul | vampi-the-frog: here are the commands for two imaginary machines boxa and boxb |
| 20:33.16 | vampi-the-frog | o_o |
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| 20:34.51 | ompaul | vampi-the-frog: target is boxb which has openssh-server installed, on boxa ssh-keygen -t rsa (if no password for the key then multiple enters) still on boxa scp .ssh/id_rsa.pub username@boxb:.ssh/authorized_keys (unless you have multiple keys in there - in which case .ssh/key-from-boxa |
| 20:35.25 | vampi-the-frog | I already know this, and I already have several keys in authorized keys |
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| 20:35.33 | vampi-the-frog | .ssh is chmod 700, authorized keys is chmod 600 |
| 20:35.52 | vampi-the-frog | the server still refuses my key |
| 20:35.54 | ompaul | vampi-the-frog: ssh -C username@boxb it really is that simple, if it is not working then you copied the wrong key or some such - it just works and does for me hundreds of times |
| 20:36.09 | vampi-the-frog | it has worked fine until recently when it stopped working |
| 20:36.22 | ompaul | vampi-the-frog: so what changed ... |
| 20:36.29 | vampi-the-frog | not sure. I'm asking what I need to check |
| 20:36.46 | vampi-the-frog | I did a package upgrade |
| 20:36.54 | ompaul | vampi-the-frog: of? |
| 20:37.05 | vampi-the-frog | everything that needed upgrading |
| 20:37.08 | ompaul | if it was a day to day one then you have no problem |
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| 20:37.18 | ompaul | with upgrades - or else half the world would be here |
| 20:37.22 | vampi-the-frog | the problem exists |
| 20:37.41 | ompaul | so when the spectacular is ruled out, the issue is the keys don't match |
| 20:37.52 | vampi-the-frog | the keys match |
| 20:37.54 | ompaul | you'll note your sshd didn't look for an rsa key |
| 20:38.00 | vampi-the-frog | it did |
| 20:38.10 | ompaul | I don't know if you dsa or ecdsa |
| 20:38.16 | vampi-the-frog | look, you're not helping |
| 20:38.33 | vampi-the-frog | I've already tried the obvious things |
| 20:38.47 | ompaul | ok so I'll leave you to it |
| 20:38.52 | vampi-the-frog | thanks |
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| 20:39.31 | ompaul | debug1: Roaming not allowed by server |
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| 20:40.35 | vampi-the-frog | there we go, my home directory had og+w |
| 20:40.46 | vampi-the-frog | saw this in auth.log |
| 20:40.47 | vampi-the-frog | thanks |
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| 20:56.52 | jacklk | I just installed Debian Wheezy and get no sound at all, what should I do? |
| 20:57.16 | dvs | !tell jacklk about alsa checklist |
| 20:57.29 | wald0 | i know about kernel-package, but how i can "apt-get source" the actual kernel "real/from debian" package ? is there any doc that explains about this ? |
| 20:57.52 | abrotman | wald0: apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r) ? |
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| 20:58.02 | dvs | try again |
| 20:58.04 | dvs | :-) |
| 20:58.06 | abrotman | i was close! |
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| 20:59.28 | abrotman | wait, that's fine |
| 20:59.36 | wald0 | abrotman: thanks, seems like this is the correct one, so i have tried to do it for the "linux-image-686-pae" which pointed to "linux-latest-46" and generated strange empty packages |
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| 20:59.59 | abrotman | dvs: why do you mock me! |
| 21:00.15 | dvs | abrotman: I thought he was looking for the source, not the image. |
| 21:00.21 | abrotman | he is! |
| 21:00.50 | dvs | is confused (again) but that's alright. |
| 21:01.20 | abrotman | you can apt-get source your kernel image |
| 21:01.28 | abrotman | wonders why he's laggy |
| 21:01.36 | hub2 | What should i do to block adding files after free space on disk is higher than 80%? |
| 21:01.59 | dvs | wonders why linux-source wasn't used. |
| 21:03.35 | abrotman | dvs: he asked how to get the source package for the kernel he has installed |
| 21:03.49 | dvs | o_O |
| 21:04.19 | abrotman | so i told him! |
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| 21:04.52 | jacklk | I still cannot get sound, and I have followed the alsa checklist. |
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| 21:05.29 | abrotman | jacklk: pastebin 'lspci -nn' |
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| 21:06.50 | jacklk | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/Hw3e1uHj |
| 21:08.12 | dvs | darn HDMI |
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| 21:10.23 | jacklk | When trying to play something in VLC, I get "Audio output failed: |
| 21:10.23 | jacklk | The audio device "default" could not be used: |
| 21:10.25 | jacklk | No such file or directory." |
| 21:10.48 | jacklk | YouTube audio also doesn't work, neither does audio on any website... |
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| 21:12.16 | jacklk | abrotman: Any ideas? |
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| 21:15.31 | jacklk | Anyone else? |
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| 21:17.42 | jacklk | Are there any sound packages I need to install in Wheezy to get it working? |
| 21:18.35 | dvs | jacklk: What GUI are you using? |
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| 21:19.30 | jacklk | dvs: Xfce |
| 21:19.38 | Bernd187__ | what about just using pulse? |
| 21:20.18 | jacklk | Pulse is an alternative to alsa? |
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| 21:20.35 | Coweatar | pulse sits on top of alsa |
| 21:20.46 | jacklk | okay, I'll tryit |
| 21:20.58 | Bernd187 | and is default in most envs |
| 21:21.02 | abrotman | hi |
| 21:21.48 | jacklk | Any way to add pulseaudio to the Xfce panel? |
| 21:22.34 | Coweatar | just use the alsa mixer panel plugin. it should list it |
| 21:22.48 | Bernd187 | jacklk, http://linuxmintdebian.blogspot.de/2010/11/pulseaudio-control-from-xfce-panel.html |
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| 21:23.19 | jacklk | thanks |
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| 21:44.41 | ^7heo | hello everyone |
| 21:45.23 | ^7heo | I would like the answer to a simple question, please: is it wise to install Wheezy on a server which is in production; to have access to versions of software that are neither in squeeze nor in backports ? |
| 21:46.14 | EmleyMoor | wheezy is currently in "final stage freeze" - so it will soon be stable. I would not be worried, at this stage. |
| 21:46.31 | ^7heo | great. |
| 21:46.41 | ^7heo | I saw that a lot of package were frozen |
| 21:46.48 | ^7heo | but I didn't know what that would mean |
| 21:46.52 | ^7heo | thanks for the feedback :) |
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| 21:47.24 | abrotman | ^7heo: internal or external ? |
| 21:47.28 | ^7heo | To update, I just :%s/squeeze/wheezy/g in /etc/apt/sources.list; then apt-get update then dist-upgrade ? |
| 21:47.43 | ^7heo | abrotman: what do you mean by internal or external ? |
| 21:47.51 | abrotman | ^7heo: on the internet, or LAN? |
| 21:48.02 | ^7heo | Public. |
| 21:48.06 | ^7heo | so Internet. |
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| 21:48.41 | ^7heo | but the problem is that the versions of the software that are in squeeze are almost a no go for me... |
| 21:48.56 | abrotman | ^7heo: i would not |
| 21:48.57 | ^7heo | so unless there is a REAL security threat with wheezy... I'll go for it. |
| 21:49.05 | abrotman | !tell ^7heo about tracker of doom |
| 21:49.31 | ^7heo | thanks abrotman |
| 21:50.19 | ^7heo | abrotman: btw, I will just install less than 300 packages at maximum, so I'm gonna watch the list, thanks. |
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| 21:54.19 | pxb | When you run `dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-layout`, what script is run? Where can I view its source? |
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| 22:04.57 | Hoppimike | hi everyone :) I am trying to set up a server for a popular community site I run mostly as a hobby, but I am really struggling with PHP processes going out of control and flooding the server and eating up all the CPU :( Could anyone give me a hand? I've been trying to sort this for a week now :( |
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| 22:07.58 | trysten | Hoppimike: just state your problem, specifically |
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| 22:09.58 | twinkie_addict | hi why does sysnaptic have a notify me of a new ubuntu release in the updates cection ? |
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| 22:10.17 | twinkie_addict | in 7.0.rc 1 |
| 22:10.28 | ^7heo | abrotman: as far as I'm concerned, the stable debian is flawed as well |
| 22:10.35 | ^7heo | (security-wisely) |
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| 22:13.31 | Hoppimike | I've given it in as much detail as I can manage initially.. hm :( |
| 22:15.19 | twinkie_addict | it set the stupid thing to notify me never though |
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| 22:15.58 | abrotman | ^7heo: sure, i'm showing you so you can be informed about what you're running |
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| 22:18.38 | Quest | i checked the box to encrypt home at install of ubuntu ,if a theif gets the HD , boots from live cd, replaces /etc/shodow file with his own. boots up. logs as sudoer, changes all users password , can he get into the encryped /homes of users? |
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| 22:18.52 | ^7heo | abrotman: that' very kind, thanks. |
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| 22:20.50 | twinkie_addict | found in know inssue sorry for asking |
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| 22:22.01 | atannus | Is there no way to do this natively in Joomla 1.5? Having a different "default home" for registered and guest? |
| 22:22.17 | atannus | oops |
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| 22:31.07 | peterrooney | Quest: you shall get significantly better results if you /join #ubuntu |
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| 22:34.21 | STMelon | Quest: this is from #suse. .:Quest:. I encrypted /homes while installing ubuntu. how come i can browse other peoples /homes. ? |
| 22:34.22 | STMelon | .:CygniX:. shouldn't this be asked in #ubuntu? |
| 22:34.30 | STMelon | you will get better support in #ubuntu |
| 22:34.56 | STMelon | you've been advised this in 2 rooms now. |
| 22:35.34 | Quest | iam banned in ubuntu |
| 22:36.50 | abrotman | not our problem, install Debian, or try #ubuntu or ##linux |
| 22:38.46 | Quest | k |
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| 22:42.57 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | GUYS! I just rm -rf'ed my entire USB drive! |
| 22:43.01 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | I wanna recover it! |
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| 22:43.22 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | What should i do? |
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| 22:43.33 | histo | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: remount it as ro |
| 22:43.37 | histo | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: immediately |
| 22:43.45 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | I unmounted it |
| 22:43.51 | histo | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: k image it |
| 22:43.59 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | how? |
| 22:44.04 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | dd what? |
| 22:44.06 | histo | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: dd if=/dev/of/usb of=somefile.img |
| 22:44.10 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | tnx |
| 22:44.21 | STMelon | you can, as well, check out the ubuntu forums, to see if any1 else has asked that question. Or you can create a forum post there and see if you can get some help if you have been banned from #ubuntu. |
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| 22:44.37 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | histo, In proccess |
| 22:44.45 | STMelon | sorry, that was meant for Quest |
| 22:44.48 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | histo, "recover" command didnt find it |
| 22:44.56 | Pei | anyone know if i need anything special to compile vmware tools? i'm getting compile time errors and failures |
| 22:44.58 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | histo, extundelete returns a error |
| 22:45.04 | histo | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: What kind of files where on it? |
| 22:45.19 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | histo, All i need is /flz folder |
| 22:45.27 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | I dont even remember |
| 22:45.37 | Shirakawasuna | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: Did you remount ro and try the dd command? |
| 22:45.38 | histo | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: what types of files where in the flz folder? |
| 22:45.44 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | histo, Idk |
| 22:45.52 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Maybe even images |
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| 22:46.48 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Ok. DD finished |
| 22:47.11 | histo | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: now run photorec, scalpel, or some other application ont he image file. |
| 22:47.22 | Vasistha | I'm trying to install a dual-boot wheezy and squeeze system. I installed wheezy first, made an encrypted volume with LVM, and created a partition for squeeze in the same volume group on the encrypted volume. Now I want to install squeeze onto that logical volume, but I'm not sure how to get the installer to do the cryptsetup so the partition is available. |
| 22:47.27 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | I mean images, text, binary...... |
| 22:47.33 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Not only images |
| 22:47.41 | Vasistha | Perhaps there is another way to go about it, e.g. install squeeze without using the installer? |
| 22:48.09 | abrotman | that pretty much guaranteed it's toast |
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| 22:50.45 | histo | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: sudo apt-get install testdisk and use the photorec app see what it can pull from the image |
| 22:50.58 | Shirakawasuna | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: have you tried photorec? |
| 22:51.33 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | not yet |
| 22:51.35 | Pei | is there a special package i can "install" that installs all needed development tools |
| 22:51.43 | histo | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: you could also try your extundelete on the image also. |
| 22:51.45 | Vasistha | Pei: needed for what? |
| 22:51.52 | Pei | gcc, etc |
| 22:51.52 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | histo, I tryed it |
| 22:51.57 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | It gave a error |
| 22:52.01 | histo | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: what error? |
| 22:52.10 | Shirakawasuna | histo: if it's an ext filesystem |
| 22:52.11 | Shirakawasuna | it could be fat |
| 22:52.13 | Vasistha | Pei: build-essential is good though |
| 22:52.20 | Pei | k |
| 22:52.29 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | extundelete: failed to read-only open device "/dev/sdb1": Error code 2133571347 |
| 22:53.00 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Wait.... its fat |
| 22:53.00 | abrotman | data gone! |
| 22:53.17 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | I thinked its ext3 |
| 22:53.28 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | How to recover from FAT? |
| 22:53.30 | ^7heo | what means "deinstall" in dpkg --get-selections ? |
| 22:53.51 | ^7heo | and how to remove these packages from the dpkg cache, if possible ? |
| 22:53.57 | histo | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: well fat is easier photorec will pull the files |
| 22:54.01 | Shirakawasuna | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: don't run it on the usb device |
| 22:54.02 | abrotman | ^7heo: what are you doing? |
| 22:54.07 | Shirakawasuna | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: run it on the image |
| 22:54.09 | ^7heo | abrotman: cleaning after upgrade. |
| 22:54.15 | histo | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: work from the image now not the device |
| 22:54.15 | Pei | anyone know anything about compiling vmware tools in debian? |
| 22:54.21 | ^7heo | abrotman: I juste removed linux-2.6 for example. |
| 22:54.21 | abrotman | ^7heo: so just remove the packages with aptitude |
| 22:54.23 | ^7heo | just* |
| 22:54.26 | abrotman | Pei: i bet they do in #vmware |
| 22:54.33 | ^7heo | nah, I don't use aptitude |
| 22:54.35 | abrotman | ^7heo: you want that package, it's your virtual package |
| 22:54.36 | ^7heo | I never use it. |
| 22:54.41 | ^7heo | I don't trust automagic tools. |
| 22:54.45 | abrotman | okay .. then do it however you like .. don't ask us stupid questions |
| 22:54.47 | Shirakawasuna | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: You want to avoid touching your usb device as much as possible now - keep it mounted read only and don't unplug it |
| 22:54.52 | Shirakawasuna | and don't run commands on it |
| 22:54.53 | abrotman | apparently you're smarter than us |
| 22:54.58 | ^7heo | I'm not. |
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| 22:55.06 | abrotman | good luck! |
| 22:55.09 | ^7heo | I just ask what "deinstall" mean. |
| 22:55.13 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Shirakawasuna, Damn, i tryed "recovery" on it mounted rw |
| 22:55.13 | ^7heo | nothing more. |
| 22:55.17 | abrotman | read the man page |
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| 22:55.23 | ^7heo | of course. |
| 22:55.29 | Shirakawasuna | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: don't do that.... |
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| 22:55.37 | Shirakawasuna | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: listen to us ;) |
| 22:55.45 | abrotman | it's too late .. |
| 22:55.45 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Shirakawasuna, i did it before i came to IRC |
| 22:56.03 | Shirakawasuna | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: it could still be ok, just avoid doing anything to it now |
| 22:56.13 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Shirakawasuna, ofcourse |
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| 22:56.38 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Shirakawasuna, It happened several minutes ago |
| 22:56.40 | petn-randall | Ooh, this is jeopardy, right? How is the fastest way to break my filesystem? |
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| 22:56.56 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Shirakawasuna, So i can provide almost all details on when and by what user |
| 22:57.08 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | (atleast "recovery" needed those info) |
| 22:58.01 | abrotman | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: which version of Linux is this? |
| 22:58.06 | Shirakawasuna | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: run photorec on the image |
| 22:58.10 | ^7heo | abrotman: okay thanks for pointing out that aptitude did something behind my back while I only opened and closed it by mistake. |
| 22:58.16 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | abrotman, Debian Wheezy |
| 22:58.29 | ^7heo | abrotman: I didn't expect the linux package to be reinstalled silently w/out asking. |
| 22:58.32 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Shirakawasuna, Ok, i am in gui. How do i select the image |
| 22:58.37 | ^7heo | (by aptitude) |
| 22:59.24 | Shirakawasuna | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: I don't remember, sorry :( |
| 22:59.41 | Shirakawasuna | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec_Step_By_Step |
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| 22:59.58 | Shirakawasuna | looks like that guide uses the cli interface |
| 22:59.59 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | ok |
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| 23:00.02 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | i did it |
| 23:00.07 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | it now opened the image |
| 23:00.11 | ^7heo | that said, I gtg |
| 23:00.16 | Shirakawasuna | cool |
| 23:00.16 | ^7heo | good evening everyone. |
| 23:00.19 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Showing me the partitions...... |
| 23:00.26 | Shirakawasuna | maybe brb - gonna switch to ethernet |
| 23:00.27 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Should i choose the main/only one |
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| 23:00.36 | Shirakawasuna | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: yeah do one at a time |
| 23:01.40 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | ok, it started recovery |
| 23:01.41 | histo | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: you could choose the partition where the files were stored. |
| 23:01.42 | petn-randall | aptitude silently installk |
| 23:02.07 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | I dont even care if it just puts all the files in one folder. I just need the content |
| 23:02.07 | petn-randall | aptitude silently installing stuff behind someone's back? Sounds more like PEBKAC to me. |
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| 23:03.05 | histo | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linux/articles/104277.aspx |
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| 23:03.10 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | So thats what you guys get when you just take "any" usb and write knoppix on it |
| 23:03.11 | abrotman | petn-randall: i'm sure it was |
| 23:03.14 | Shirakawasuna2 | back (I think) |
| 23:03.58 | histo | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: so you overwrote the usb? |
| 23:04.08 | histo | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: or did you rm -rf files? |
| 23:04.09 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | histo, No, i was doing it with unetbootin |
| 23:04.17 | jacklk | Why did Debian decide to rename Firefox "Iceweasel" and Thunderbird "Icedove?" |
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| 23:04.33 | jacklk | It's annoying. \= |
| 23:04.40 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | histo, In main: I personaly via root console did "rm /media/usb0/* -rf" |
| 23:04.41 | ArtyG | jacklk, blame Mozilla. |
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| 23:04.48 | jacklk | ArtyG: ?] |
| 23:04.53 | jacklk | it was Debian's ide |
| 23:04.55 | jacklk | a |
| 23:05.05 | Shirakawasuna | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: Did it complete or did you cancel it? |
| 23:05.17 | histo | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: if it's fat and you just deleted then testdisk will be easier to just undelete the files |
| 23:05.30 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Shirakawasuna, No, it completed |
| 23:05.32 | ArtyG | jacklk, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=354622 |
| 23:05.52 | histo | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: let me get you a link for using the undelete function of testdisk it will be much faster than carving |
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| 23:06.02 | histo | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk:_undelete_file_for_FAT |
| 23:06.10 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | histo, Exactly. Currently i am browsing the treasures i got from photorec |
| 23:06.55 | histo | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: yeah with "testdisk" not photorec you can just undelete files form a fat filesystem. |
| 23:08.02 | abrotman | jacklk: no, it's Mozilla's decision |
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| 23:08.14 | histo | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: when you delete a file on a fat system you just remove the entries in the fat tables and the first letter of every file/directory name is replaced witha sigma character. So it's rather easy to undelete the files. The testdisk app can do this. Photorec is a carving app that is distributed witht eh testdisk package |
| 23:09.10 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | So.... how do i "undelete" with testdisk? |
| 23:09.24 | histo | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk:_undelete_file_for_FAT |
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| 23:11.30 | petn-randall | jacklk: ArtyG's link has it covered. Mozilla made restrictions using the logo and brand that were incompatible to the DFSG so that Debian decided to use different ones. |
| 23:12.12 | jacklk | pet-scandal: okau |
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| 23:13.55 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Ok, i wanted to recover it so much becouse usualy i randomly store my "state of art" theories and diaries of crazy person in different places. |
| 23:14.02 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Those are like gold to be |
| 23:14.12 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | I thinked i had some in this dir |
| 23:14.58 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | But it was the files i stole from some guy XD |
| 23:15.26 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Thank you guys! |
| 23:15.29 | abrotman | can't you just gpg protect the files like a normal person? |
| 23:15.39 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | abrotman, For what? |
| 23:15.50 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | GPG would prevent the from being deleted? |
| 23:16.01 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | I dont think so |
| 23:16.20 | abrotman | but storing them on a FAT USB drive does that? |
| 23:16.29 | abrotman | obviously not .. not even safe from you |
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| 23:16.41 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | But why GPG? Why you sad that? |
| 23:17.02 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | I am just the person who never stores backups :( |
| 23:17.09 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Sadly |
| 23:17.37 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | ^^ But i got you guys to recover my files ^^ |
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| 23:18.05 | abrotman | I thought you were trying to protect the files from prying eyes, obviously not hte case |
| 23:18.28 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Nooo. Who would search something on my USB? |
| 23:18.38 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Even if someone would. That means he needs it |
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| 23:19.14 | abrotman | boggles |
| 23:20.17 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | If someone needs my theories about how the world work.... why not? |
| 23:20.23 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Ususaly no one accepts them |
| 23:20.34 | abrotman | shocked |
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| 23:20.50 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Atleast #android didnt acept my provement that time doesnt exist. |
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| 23:21.03 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Based on infinite monkeys theory |
| 23:21.23 | abrotman | i think you want #debian-offtopic or #defocus |
| 23:21.40 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | No. I am just thanking you guys for helping me |
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| 23:22.12 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | *quietly* and trying to secretly tell my theory..... |
| 23:22.17 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | bb! |
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| 23:25.24 | innmalint | Where would I grab kernel 3.8.6 headers? |
| 23:26.04 | abrotman | where did you get the kernel ? |
| 23:26.32 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Where else he could get them? |
| 23:26.37 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | kernel.org |
| 23:26.58 | abrotman | no |
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| 23:27.11 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Why "no"? |
| 23:27.20 | abrotman | judd: versions linux-headers-3.8-trunk-486 |
| 23:27.21 | judd | Package: linux-headers-3.8-trunk-486 on i386 -- experimental: 3.8.5-1~experimental.1 |
| 23:27.48 | abrotman | and a few other places are available if you know where to look |
| 23:27.55 | innmalint | welp it was a simple apt-get and i already had 'em, even better. |
| 23:28.47 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | abrotman, But kernel.org is the main |
| 23:29.08 | abrotman | not helpful, thanks |
| 23:29.24 | innmalint | abrotman i got the kernel from kernel.org, only the second time i've tried upgrading and it's all because of a stupid gaming mouse. now i'm trying to install nvidia drivers so i wanted to make sure i could. |
| 23:29.33 | Quest | what happens if the ban time (say 3600) is over for an ip and it tries to log again and give incorrect credentials again? will it be ban for 3600 again or more this time? |
| 23:29.41 | abrotman | innmalint: did you create a debian package with it ? |
| 23:29.49 | abrotman | Quest: ask #ubuntu-ops |
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| 23:30.02 | abrotman | Quest: this is not the Ubuntu support channel |
| 23:30.06 | innmalint | nope just config'd from a tar file. |
| 23:30.45 | Quest | abrotman, i use debain too. and fail2ban runs on debian |
| 23:30.49 | innmalint | abrotman: it seems to work alright so far, and aptitude apparently installed the headers for me |
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| 23:31.02 | abrotman | Quest: use #ubuntu for Ubuntu support questions, thank you |
| 23:31.21 | abrotman | Quest: or use ##linux if you've been banned from #ubuntu |
| 23:31.35 | abrotman | innmalint: not from kernel.org |
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| 23:32.50 | innmalint | abrotman: i don't know what you mean. i either downloaded it as a tar.bz2, tar.xz, or possibly git but it installed a-okay afaik. |
| 23:32.55 | jacklk | Can someone help with my Debian error? http://bit.ly/aqiyn3 |
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| 23:34.09 | abrotman | jacklk: pleas edon't spam porn lnks |
| 23:34.10 | abrotman | links |
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| 23:36.48 | esmth | hai |
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| 23:44.03 | Vasistha | I'm trying to install a dual-boot wheezy and squeeze system. I installed wheezy first, made an encrypted volume with LVM, and created a partition for squeeze in the same volume group on the encrypted volume. Now I want to install squeeze onto that logical volume, but I'm not sure how to get the installer to do the cryptsetup so the partition is available. |
| 23:44.06 | Vasistha | Perhaps there is another way to go about it, e.g. install squeeze without using the installer? |
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| 23:45.42 | roboman2444 | opengl failed with major blah blah |
| 23:45.55 | roboman2444 | opsomething :137 blah |
| 23:46.01 | roboman2444 | something else 19 blah |
| 23:46.10 | roboman2444 | fglrx doesnt work anymore after an apt-get upgrade |
| 23:46.21 | abrotman | oh, i'd probably blah blah now |
| 23:46.22 | roboman2444 | yes, i have tried reinstalling the latest version from the amd site |
| 23:46.37 | roboman2444 | abrotman, hey, the major numbers are there |
| 23:46.50 | roboman2444 | my desktop isnt my laptop, which i am on |
| 23:46.56 | roboman2444 | so... i cant remember the whole thing |
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| 23:47.57 | abrotman | roboman2444: are you sure the newest version of fglrx is compatible with your version of Xorg ? |
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| 23:48.15 | roboman2444 | should be... whats the current testing version of xorg? |
| 23:48.35 | roboman2444 | and X works currently, but not glx |
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| 23:49.19 | roboman2444 | the last time debian got ahead of fglrx in the XORG race, x just wouldnt work at all |
| 23:49.45 | Slugze | say.. i'm a little bit confused , i though utf_8 was something normalized, so .. i'm wondering what's the difference between en_us.utf-8 and en_gb.utf-8? |
| 23:50.17 | roboman2444 | was anything opengl related updated in the last few weeks in debian testing? |
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| 23:58.17 | petn-randall | Slugze: It's just the spelling of certain words, think 'labor' vs 'labour'. |
| 23:58.52 | Slugze | oh, ok thanks |
| 23:59.02 | petn-randall | Slugze: the utf8 part is well defined, It'll just give packages hints which dialect you prefer :) |
| 23:59.37 | petn-randall | Slugze: You're welcome. |