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| 00:00.07 | petn-randall | abyxcos: It's compressed as whatever you configured it to be ... |
| 00:00.26 | useless-eater | thanks petn-randall |
| 00:00.27 | petn-randall | abyxcos: Also, 'file' will probably tell you. |
| 00:00.34 | abyxcos | petn-randall: I didn't configure it. So I asked file. |
| 00:01.15 | abyxcos | petn-randall: initramfs-tools still aren't putting my kernel modules in the image. Here's the error I get. http://pastebin.com/index.php?e=2 |
| 00:01.48 | petn-randall | "You cannot create an empty paste." |
| 00:01.58 | abyxcos | Ayup. |
| 00:02.09 | abyxcos | Do you want an strace of the process? |
| 00:02.39 | petn-randall | abyxcos: Where are your kernel modules lying? |
| 00:02.44 | abyxcos | Seems like dkms didn't install them, so it just failed silently. |
| 00:04.06 | mastro | petemc, ok... now I recall pinning with a negative priority to unstable ---> like if I only have testing unless I explicitly ask for the package... unluckily the package I need to upgrade is on the same version in unstable :/ (ImageMagick) |
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| 00:04.37 | abyxcos | petn-randall: dkms claims they're installed. |
| 00:05.02 | abyxcos | petn-randall: They're not in the /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ folder. |
| 00:05.11 | petn-randall | abyxcos: and *where* are those modules? Have you verified they're there? |
| 00:05.35 | petn-randall | abyxcos: Then update-initramfs can't bundle them in the initrd ... |
| 00:05.43 | abyxcos | Actually, they're in updates/dkms/*.ko. |
| 00:05.57 | abyxcos | petn-randall: Yes, I'm aware of that. |
| 00:06.09 | abyxcos | petn-randall: I'm confused as to why none of these tools ever report an error. |
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| 00:07.23 | petn-randall | abyxcos: remove them with dkms, then show me the compilation run with dkms of those modules. |
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| 00:07.52 | abyxcos | petn-randall: They're actually in the initrd image, my mistake. |
| 00:08.00 | abyxcos | Someone can't find them for some reason. |
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| 00:14.12 | abyxcos | petn-randall: "modprobe: can't load modules zcommon (updates/dkms/zcommon.ko): No such file or directory" |
| 00:14.31 | abyxcos | petn-randall: "ls /lib/modules/*/updates/dkms/zcommon.ko" |
| 00:14.35 | abyxcos | petn-randall: "zcommon.ko" |
| 00:15.28 | abyxcos | petn-randall: I'm not sure why it's telling me it can't find the file when it's sitting right there, in the same directory as all the other modules it just found. |
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| 00:23.44 | Mathias | i need some help fixing apt-get, http://pastebin.com/LXxZnRFA and i don't want that kernel as i want to keep my grsec one (2.6.32.60-grsec) |
| 00:23.50 | petn-randall | abyxcos: 'modinfo zcommon' says nothing? dmesg -c? |
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| 00:26.46 | abyxcos | petn-randall: modinfo shows that it's loaded, and found. |
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| 00:27.09 | abyxcos | I'm not sure what's spitting that error out, as it seems like it's been found after. |
| 00:27.23 | Mathias | btw, i know i tried to pin the wrong kernel, i unpinned it and pinned the correct one, still nothing |
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| 00:28.58 | petn-randall | Mathias: I'd simply configure grub to select the kernel you want by default. Having a second kernel is *always* handy. |
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| 00:29.13 | abyxcos | petn-randall: Some of my problems seem to be that there is no /etc/mtab on my image. |
| 00:29.18 | Mathias | well, anything i try to do apt-get wants to remove it |
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| 00:31.06 | petn-randall | Mathias: I don't understand why the zz-update-grub got killed. Did you hit ctrl + c during the removal? |
| 00:31.18 | Mathias | no |
| 00:31.30 | Mathias | even tried to run it manually |
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| 00:31.51 | Mathias | "Killed" was the very helpful response |
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| 00:32.33 | petn-randall | Mathias: What does /etc/apt/preferences say at the moment? |
| 00:32.57 | Mathias | nothing |
| 00:33.14 | Mathias | and nothing in preferences.d |
| 00:33.34 | petn-randall | Mathias: Then I don't understand why apt-get upgrade wants to remove packages. |
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| 00:34.03 | petn-randall | Mathias: What does apt-get install -f do for you? |
| 00:34.43 | Mathias | petn-randall: http://pastebin.com/EyaDFYcn |
| 00:35.02 | petn-randall | Mathias: no need for sudo, you're already root :0 |
| 00:35.04 | petn-randall | :) |
| 00:35.13 | Mathias | muscle memory :P |
| 00:35.39 | Mathias | "sudo apt-get install" takes me 1 second to write :P |
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| 00:36.20 | adh0c | Does rsync usually run as multiple threads or instances? |
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| 00:37.36 | petn-randall | Mathias: I can only imagine that you upgrade packages that linux-image-* depended on, and now apt-get tries to remove it to resolve dependencies. |
| 00:37.46 | petn-randall | *upgraded |
| 00:38.55 | Mathias | possible to undo it? |
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| 01:05.41 | Mathias | petn-randall: still here? :) |
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| 01:11.55 | supaplex | I don't recall how to save a snapshot of installed packages, to reinstall the same set of packges on another system. |
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| 01:13.04 | dvs | dpkg --get-selection ? |
| 01:13.05 | dpkg | dvs: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 01:13.15 | dvs | dang it! |
| 01:13.25 | supaplex | yea, that looks familar. |
| 01:13.46 | supaplex | +s dpkg --get-selections actually. |
| 01:15.16 | Tramp | !aptitude clone |
| 01:15.17 | dpkg | To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>. |
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| 01:19.14 | supaplex | sweet. I'll install a bare bones LXC, then clone the selected packages this way, and deselect any overhead I don't need in the guest. (eg, drivers, kernels, etc). |
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| 01:40.35 | zoltae | hi, does anyone know if mount -o rw,remount / will need access to the fstab,crypttab, mtab etc for it to know the initial parameters? |
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| 01:44.28 | supaplex | zoltae: probably not needed. However, some fs will silently ignore that request. |
| 01:44.57 | zoltae | ignore the request to remount? |
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| 01:45.57 | supaplex | mount may not complain, but nothing happens. test for r/w after (eg, touch / ) |
| 01:46.12 | zoltae | okay thanks, i'll give it a go |
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| 02:27.10 | zeep | do i need a specific package for compiling with curl on 64bit for 32bit? |
| 02:27.19 | zeep | http://hastebin.com/raw/kiheqalegi |
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| 02:38.42 | Mathias | oh goodie, i shouldn't have root on my boxes, managed to screw another one up |
| 02:40.33 | dioz | same |
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| 02:41.26 | Mathias | well, maybe i'll try another distro on it. any suggestions? (maybe a little offtopic) |
| 02:41.47 | Mathias | my home server/experimental-box :P |
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| 03:11.32 | GinTonic | hello,can somebody give a 'invitation code' about http://chdbits.org ,thanks a lot |
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| 03:18.44 | irritatednoobish | Hey all! |
| 03:19.03 | irritatednoobish | Still trying to get my new install of Debian to get online |
| 03:19.22 | irritatednoobish | downloaded the packages, or at least I think I have the right ones now, |
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| 03:20.15 | irritatednoobish | got firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb and firmware-realtek_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb |
| 03:20.24 | irritatednoobish | how do I use those |
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| 03:21.03 | irritatednoobish | if anyone can help me get online that'd be great |
| 03:21.12 | LtL | irritatednoobish: dpkg -i filename.deb |
| 03:21.21 | irritatednoobish | for both? |
| 03:21.25 | LtL | yes |
| 03:21.32 | LtL | then reboot |
| 03:22.36 | irritatednoobish | okay, cool. will see soon if it's worked then |
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| 03:23.54 | irritatednoobish | still isn't working |
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| 03:24.17 | irritatednoobish | i did change a file that i thought i had to change that maybe i didnt need to |
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| 03:24.19 | firc | hi. where can I download the wheezy iso on torrent? All I see is the stable version torrents. |
| 03:24.39 | irritatednoobish | LtL any further advice? |
| 03:25.03 | LtL | irritatednoobish: about what? |
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| 03:26.38 | irritatednoobish | I ran that command for both packages but it still wasn't detecting the wireless |
| 03:27.00 | Cyb3r-Assassin | I just did a network install iso. But the dhcp isnt comming up to pull ip from router as the interface always shows 127 when i call it up down from init. Any good advice to get this up or tp get resolve.conf? |
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| 03:28.04 | irritatednoobish | I ran dpkg -i for both deb archives |
| 03:28.10 | irritatednoobish | but the wireless still isn't working |
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| 03:28.59 | irritatednoobish | anyone? |
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| 03:30.05 | LtL | irritatednoobish: you should give this a read as i have no idea what you have installed. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 03:30.09 | roothorick | this is more of a project policy question: the r8169 driver in, as far as I can tell, the entire 2.6 series, is hopelessly broken. How does the Debian team handle something like this? |
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| 03:30.47 | firc | Anyone? Does debian not release testing on torrents anymore? |
| 03:31.05 | roothorick | it's kind of a critical thing, as an RTL8111 or RTL8168B may be that box's only connection to the outside world, and if the driver doesn't work, there's no way to fix things without physically going to the machine |
| 03:31.34 | roothorick | including all the stickiness that goes with manually loading .deb's on a thumb drive and hoping you nailed all the dependencies |
| 03:32.33 | roothorick | obviously I can just pull in the 3.2 kernel from squeeze-backports and install that on all affected machines, but shouldn't Debian itself do something about this? |
| 03:32.56 | irritatednoobish | maybe if I did that -i dpkging while connected to the net |
| 03:33.14 | Cyb3r-Assassin | is there not a compleate base system of debian? you have to do the net install? its missing so many dependencies so on basicl its a botched install out of the box on my laptop. |
| 03:33.56 | roothorick | Cyb3r-Assassin: fwiw I ALWAYS do laptop installs with the laptop on an ethernet wire for exactly that reason |
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| 03:34.15 | roothorick | I'm talking about systems where the driver for their WIRED Ethernet is broken, completely cutting them off. What then? |
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| 03:35.41 | Cyb3r-Assassin | roothorick: well the netinstall wouldnt work on the wifi so I told it to not worry about that and finished install. I have a wired connection for it now, but I thought debian installed a functional kde based X or guess thats no more. |
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| 03:36.47 | seekanet | so guys, girls, children of all ages! How could I begin to learn how to 'program a script'. Should I look for something specific in google or a specific phrase? |
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| 03:37.30 | Cyb3r-Assassin | seekanet: google bible of bash :pdf |
| 03:37.36 | roothorick | Cyb3r-Assassin: if you want to do a fully offline install you need the full CD, not the netinst or businesscard ISO. You sure you have the right one? |
| 03:37.43 | seekanet | thanks Cyb3r-Assassin <3 |
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| 03:38.59 | Cyb3r-Assassin | roothorick: I have the net install one off the home page from banner link. I dont care as long as theres a command to pull a base system down. I just dont want to spend the time configuring a box from scratch this a goof around laptop not my main system. If I need to and u know hte proper iso to do a full install ill redo it with that. |
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| 03:39.48 | roothorick | Cyb3r-Assassin: do the install with netinst, with the laptop on wired ethernet for the entire install. That should work |
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| 03:40.08 | roothorick | Cyb3r-Assassin: honestly, WiFi on anything not-Ubuntu nearly always takes some fiddling |
| 03:40.38 | roothorick | and even then... stay the hell away from Realtek and Broadcom (hissssss) |
| 03:40.47 | Cyb3r-Assassin | roothorick: yeah it took till I was board to get wpa suplicant to work proper on my gntoo box since its wired its more justifiable to ignore it |
| 03:41.10 | Cyb3r-Assassin | this laptop is realtek too |
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| 03:41.34 | roothorick | Cyb3r-Assassin: uhoh... can you get the exact chip from lspci? The wired I mean |
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| 03:42.52 | irritatednoobish | oooookay, |
| 03:43.06 | Cyb3r-Assassin | ahh roothorick my bad, its a brodcom wired and atheros AR928X wifi |
| 03:43.41 | roothorick | hm, should be fine |
| 03:43.47 | roothorick | try the netinst with wired networking |
| 03:44.33 | irritatednoobish | which paort of the wifi entry on the wiki should i direct my attention to |
| 03:44.44 | irritatednoobish | I think I installed those debs |
| 03:44.58 | irritatednoobish | but it's still only working with ethernet connected |
| 03:45.06 | Cyb3r-Assassin | god this thing has no tools locate less uggh |
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| 03:46.32 | irritatednoobish | got firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb and firmware-realtek_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb, ran dpkg -i on both of them, then rebooted the computer |
| 03:46.42 | irritatednoobish | now what? |
| 03:46.54 | irritatednoobish | I'm on a ThinkPad Edge |
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| 03:49.07 | Cultist | For a samba/xmbc server, would it be better to use a newish quad core laptop, or an oldish Pentium 4 desktop? |
| 03:50.17 | Mathias | Cultist: just as a file server you mean? |
| 03:50.41 | Cultist | files and streaming |
| 03:50.58 | roothorick | Cultist: I think the other hardware matters far more |
| 03:51.09 | Cultist | I use a laptop right now, but I was looking at an old desktop on Craigslist for $50, was thinking that might be a nice replacement |
| 03:51.30 | Mathias | my old trustworthy intel pentium m works fine for that |
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| 03:52.04 | Mathias | nfs/samba/plex runs on it among other stuff |
| 03:52.33 | Mathias | i'm going to take a reinstall on it soon though, too much crap on it |
| 03:52.44 | Cultist | the big advantage to the laptop is of course the battery because I'm kinda geek for big uptime numbers |
| 03:52.57 | Mathias | yup |
| 03:53.05 | Cultist | but I don't want to lose my uptime because I wanted to rearrange my living room |
| 03:53.07 | Mathias | i got 40 days on it atm |
| 03:53.20 | Mathias | and 60 before that |
| 03:55.18 | irritatednoobish | so, wireless still isn't working |
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| 04:00.10 | Cyb3r-Assassin | ok im doing a reinstall. buy cryptsetup isnt available so how can I unlock my FDE volumes to reinstall? |
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| 04:01.56 | irritatednoobish | okay, I ran ifconfig |
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| 04:02.40 | irritatednoobish | can anyone please help me get my computer's wifi to work? |
| 04:03.21 | Rusty1 | irritatednoobish: what wireless chipset? |
| 04:03.44 | irritatednoobish | uhhh is there something I could run to tell you? |
| 04:03.47 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | lspci -vvnn | grep -i wireless |
| 04:03.50 | irritatednoobish | like lspci piped thru something? |
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| 04:04.19 | Rusty1 | what JWGUBNYMGBQWOI said |
| 04:04.27 | irritatednoobish | ah, here we go |
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| 04:04.36 | roothorick | it just occurred to me, I could use kexec() to work around insufferably slow USB booting |
| 04:04.50 | irritatednoobish | Centrino Wireless-N 1000 |
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| 04:05.12 | irritatednoobish | Subsystem same but BGN |
| 04:05.13 | LtL | irritatednoobish: give us the pciid, it looks like this [8086:108b] |
| 04:05.28 | irritatednoobish | [8086:1315] |
| 04:05.38 | irritatednoobish | that's the subsystem's |
| 04:05.58 | irritatednoobish | for the network controller it's [8086:0084] |
| 04:06.01 | Rusty1 | irritatednoobish: type: iwconfig , as root , is there a wlan0? |
| 04:06.35 | irritatednoobish | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:06.44 | LtL | irritatednoobish: i need the centrino id |
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| 04:07.08 | LtL | irritatednoobish: if you have wlan, you're close |
| 04:07.26 | Rusty1 | irritatednoobish: now type: ifconfig , as root , is there a wlan0? |
| 04:07.40 | irritatednoobish | there is a wlan0 |
| 04:07.43 | irritatednoobish | it says as follows |
| 04:07.58 | irritatednoobish | IEEE 802.11bgn ESSID: off/any |
| 04:08.21 | irritatednoobish | Mode: Managed Accesss Point: Not Associaated Tx-Power=14 dBm |
| 04:08.45 | Rusty1 | irritatednoobish: do you have a gui , gnome etc? |
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| 04:08.52 | irritatednoobish | yeah, I'm on xfce |
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| 04:09.34 | Rusty1 | irritatednoobish: if you have a wired connection, aptitude install wicd-gtk |
| 04:10.12 | irritatednoobish | didnt seem to do anything I already have wicd |
| 04:10.33 | irritatednoobish | hahahah! |
| 04:10.34 | irritatednoobish | i got it! |
| 04:10.41 | Rusty1 | irritatednoobish: type: iwlist wlan0 scanning |
| 04:10.44 | irritatednoobish | where it asked for wireless option |
| 04:10.48 | irritatednoobish | i put in wlan0 |
| 04:10.55 | irritatednoobish | and now it recognizes my network |
| 04:11.00 | irritatednoobish | shoulda thought of that earlier |
| 04:11.03 | Rusty1 | good to go |
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| 04:11.46 | irritatednoobish | thanks anyway, I couldn't have done it without your help though |
| 04:12.05 | irritatednoobish | hey Rusty1, you wouldn't happen to be the same rusty1 as on nicotine+? |
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| 04:13.25 | kingsley | Why would an eleven year old Dell computer boot from a CD, but not from a DVD in the same drive? |
| 04:13.38 | ectospasm | not a DVD drive? |
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| 04:13.59 | ectospasm | Or, maybe it's that old DVD-ROM± crap |
| 04:14.02 | ectospasm | kingsley: ^ |
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| 04:14.39 | irritatednoobish | it's still not connecting even though it recognizes the network, it's trying to get an IP address |
| 04:15.34 | kingsley | ectospasm: The DVD drive is supposed to support the type of DVD printed on the disc... DVD+R. |
| 04:15.52 | irritatednoobish | 'Connection failed: Unable to Get IP Address' |
| 04:16.16 | ectospasm | kingsley: is the disc good? Have you checked its sha1sum vs. the ISO image used to burn it? |
| 04:16.45 | ectospasm | you should be able to use this command: sha1sum /dev/dvd |
| 04:16.45 | irritatednoobish | okay |
| 04:16.52 | irritatednoobish | it was on the wrong type of WEP network |
| 04:17.01 | irritatednoobish | thanks for your help everyone |
| 04:17.07 | irritatednoobish | have a good nigth |
| 04:17.12 | kingsley | ectospasm: You ask reasonable questions. I've tried booting two DVDs with it, including one that booted on another computer. |
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| 04:17.35 | ectospasm | kingsley: possible that the target DVD drive is malfunctioning |
| 04:17.49 | ectospasm | can you swap it with one you know works? |
| 04:18.01 | seekanet | whats your guys knowledge of this. ms windows vs debian resources? whats the ratio each uses? |
| 04:19.49 | ectospasm | that's a loaded question |
| 04:19.56 | ectospasm | what do you mean, "resources?" |
| 04:20.38 | kingsley | ectospasm: Swapping the DVD with a known good one is a clever idea. My only concern is how soon I can get a known good one. |
| 04:21.08 | seekanet | ectospasm, it can mean more then one thing? system resource usage. |
| 04:21.42 | ectospasm | seekanet: um, that still isn't specific enough. Do you mean disk resources, RAM, etc.? |
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| 04:22.17 | seekanet | i just said system resources |
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| 04:22.42 | ectospasm | seekanet: You can fit a fully functional Debian desktop under 30GB disk space. Windows 7 requires >30GB to be comfortable. |
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| 04:23.31 | seekanet | Ouch. |
| 04:23.34 | ectospasm | seekanet: yes, but the term "system resources" encompasses a great many things. |
| 04:23.37 | kingsley | Is there a package that writes a bootable floppy that transfers control to a DVD that would otherwise be unbootable? If so, what's it called? |
| 04:23.48 | seekanet | ectospasm; oh? sorry. |
| 04:23.51 | Cyb3r-Assassin | I cant get a mirror on install bc it keeps coming back that the mirror does not support to specified release. can someone verify a good mirror? running testing amd64 |
| 04:26.39 | seekanet | ectospasm; well i would like to install debian, but imnot sure if my system has what it needs as in drivers,video card, etc. |
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| 04:29.41 | ectospasm | kingsley: http://wiki.debian.org/BootFloppy << this may have some resources you can use. |
| 04:30.36 | ectospasm | seekanet: drivers can be an issue, depending on which Debian distribution you go with. If you're new, and your system is fairly recent, I'd recommend wheezy, as it's almost stable. |
| 04:30.59 | peterrooney | seekanet: /msg dpkg hcl |
| 04:31.18 | TronCycle | +1 to that. It's a lot more stable than I expected. |
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| 04:33.43 | Cyb3r-Assassin | every mirror is comming back error not supporting squeeze |
| 04:33.59 | ectospasm | TronCycle: remember, "stable" refers to the package selection and versions, *not* system stability. |
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| 04:35.17 | TronCycle | I'm aware, I was just supporting your statement. |
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| 04:49.42 | wtfmate | hey |
| 04:49.48 | wtfmate | can't get my sound to work |
| 04:49.58 | wtfmate | nor is there an audio mixer app visible anywhere |
| 04:50.20 | wtfmate | fresh install of 6.0.7 |
| 04:51.35 | wtfmate | anyone? |
| 04:51.37 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | alsamixer |
| 04:51.42 | wtfmate | install that? |
| 04:51.47 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | from alsa-utils I think |
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| 04:55.14 | wtfmate | it's only coming out of the left channel |
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| 04:56.53 | wtfmate | oooops |
| 04:56.55 | wtfmate | wrong headphones |
| 04:56.56 | wtfmate | hahaha |
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| 04:58.46 | wtfmate | oh wait |
| 04:58.49 | wtfmate | now there's a static sound |
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| 05:00.13 | wtfmate | there's some noise when nothing is playing |
| 05:00.40 | wtfmate | any idea how to get rid of that JWGUBNYMGBQWOI? |
| 05:01.33 | seekanet | i downloaded http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.7/i386/iso-cd/debian-6.0.7-i386-netinst.iso, is this the 64 bit version ? |
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| 05:02.33 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | no |
| 05:03.00 | seekanet | where is it |
| 05:03.02 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | i386 is 32-bit; amd64 is 64-bit |
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| 05:03.21 | seekanet | i dont have an amd computer, it is intel |
| 05:03.59 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | it doesn't matter, it's just the name |
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| 05:04.21 | seekanet | oh ok, thank you |
| 05:04.33 | TronCycle | If you've got a 64-bit machine, you can check here: |
| 05:04.36 | TronCycle | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.7/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 05:05.09 | seekanet | <3 |
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| 05:18.33 | n1x | is there any difference between /etc/crontab and the "sudo su root; crontab -e" ? |
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| 05:23.24 | adh0c | n1x: crontabs should not be edited directly via text editors, as the cron daemon runs so frequently you risk creating conflicts by doing so. |
| 05:24.05 | n1x | adh0c, so how would you edit /etc/crontab ? |
| 05:24.49 | adh0c | If you have to create a system level cronjob, it's best to su into root and then use the crontab binary. |
| 05:25.11 | adh0c | So just sudo su -, then crontab -e |
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| 05:26.39 | adh0c | That way the cronjob you're creating or editing doesn't clash with the cron daemon as the daemon won't even see it until the crontab program writes the new job in the appropriate location. |
| 05:28.01 | adh0c | Also remember that cronjobs implemented as root do not need to specify a user. |
| 05:28.30 | adh0c | Unless, of course, you are writing a crontab as root for another user. |
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| 05:28.41 | adh0c | Eg, "crontab -u joe -e" |
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| 05:33.33 | suppy_ | my bash version is 4.0+ a loop script is not working http://paste.debian.net/249227/ |
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| 05:36.45 | Saberu | hey could someone please apt-get install lrzip and help me unzip something? |
| 05:36.47 | Saberu | http://www.sendspace.com/file/71oid5 |
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| 05:38.19 | JNSamuel | why not you do it? |
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| 05:38.44 | JNSamuel | and ew lrz lol |
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| 05:39.29 | JNSamuel | bitcoin miner :o |
| 05:39.37 | lolcat | Can I tell apt-cacher how much space too use? |
| 05:39.46 | lolcat | How big is all of the debian packages? |
| 05:39.47 | Saberu | cos i dont have debian :( |
| 05:39.50 | Saberu | i have centos :s |
| 05:39.56 | JNSamuel | ... |
| 05:39.59 | adh0c | lol |
| 05:40.04 | Saberu | please man help a brother out |
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| 05:40.09 | adh0c | yummy |
| 05:40.14 | JNSamuel | brothers dont use centos |
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| 05:40.31 | Neal_ | ^ |
| 05:40.42 | suppy_ | can someone help me with bash script ? |
| 05:41.27 | Neal_ | suppy_: someone might, although i might have better luck at #bash |
| 05:41.33 | Neal_ | s/i/you |
| 05:41.37 | suppy_ | oh k |
| 05:41.39 | JNSamuel | sure, echo "echo hi" > hi.sh |
| 05:41.49 | suppy_ | http://paste.debian.net/249227/ |
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| 05:42.04 | Neal_ | chmod 755 hi.sh |
| 05:42.27 | Saberu | centos may be a dick to use but it's nice and lightweight |
| 05:42.31 | Neal_ | rm hi.sh && echo bye |
| 05:42.49 | JNSamuel | lightweight? hahahaha |
| 05:42.50 | Neal_ | Saberu: no |
| 05:42.55 | suppy_ | Neal_: did you check the link ? |
| 05:42.58 | Saberu | fucking CUPS |
| 05:43.00 | Saberu | stops cups |
| 05:43.24 | JNSamuel | throws a debian cup at Saberu |
| 05:43.31 | JNSamuel | sugar? |
| 05:44.01 | Saberu | can i stop rpcbind and master too? |
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| 05:44.21 | Saberu | and rpc.statd |
| 05:44.27 | JNSamuel | also, do you think raspbian is good for a raspberry pi board |
| 05:44.35 | adh0c | CentOS is useful if you need to set up a server to be stable and receive security updates for 10 years. |
| 05:44.37 | JNSamuel | mmm pi |
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| 05:44.46 | adh0c | If you're not hosting a bank's database, it's fucking useless. |
| 05:44.54 | supaplex | dpkg: start a distro war |
| 05:44.54 | dpkg | Ubuntu is an ancient African word meaning 'I can't configure Debian'. |
| 05:45.27 | JNSamuel | <adh0c> CentOS is useful if you need to set up a server to be stable and receive security updates in the next 10 years for fixes in 10 year old vulns and bugs. |
| 05:45.54 | Neal_ | suppy_: it should work, i don't why it is not |
| 05:46.02 | Neal_ | don't know* |
| 05:46.28 | adh0c | I never said they were prompt about it. |
| 05:47.01 | JNSamuel | debian is becoming more popular with servers |
| 05:47.05 | adh0c | Personally I won't touch an RPM based distro with a ten foot pipe. |
| 05:47.08 | Neal_ | then why is it good for banks? :P |
| 05:47.11 | JNSamuel | centos you hearabout once in a blue moon |
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| 05:47.37 | adh0c | I also never said banks having secure servers was a good thing. ;-) |
| 05:47.45 | Neal_ | :p |
| 05:47.52 | Saberu | centos is great once u dont need to set it up |
| 05:47.53 | JNSamuel | <3 debian, http://vsolutions.devstation.org/ |
| 05:48.10 | dondelelcaro | folks, this isn't on topic here. If you don't have a Debian related question, please go elsewhere. |
| 05:48.12 | Neal_ | Saberu: No, CentOS is never great |
| 05:48.18 | dondelelcaro | Or use #debian-offtopic. |
| 05:48.53 | adh0c | Cmon - it's an ungodly hour on friday night. |
| 05:49.05 | adh0c | If I'm not gonna socialize here then I'm going to a bar. |
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| 05:50.55 | adh0c | Ten minutes til I'm off the clock anyway. >:-D |
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| 05:52.52 | SM0TVI | Update on my install from earlier: HD dead. Otherwise, it worked like a charm :) |
| 05:53.05 | JNSamuel | :/ perhaps if people talked in #debian-offtopic |
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| 05:55.20 | quickquestion | hey |
| 05:55.40 | quickquestion | I *was* able to mount my ext. USB hard drive |
| 05:55.44 | quickquestion | but now it's not letting me |
| 05:56.19 | quickquestion | Unable to mount "Hitachi": ntfs-3g-mount: failed to open /dev/fuse: Permission denied |
| 05:56.19 | dondelelcaro | quickquestion: how are you trying to mount it? what's the error message if any? |
| 05:56.34 | quickquestion | just double clicking its icon |
| 05:56.58 | dondelelcaro | quickquestion: your user isn't in the fuse group |
| 05:57.12 | quickquestion | so how do I add it? |
| 05:57.19 | quickquestion | because half an hour ago this wasn't an issue |
| 05:57.23 | quickquestion | then it suddenly became one |
| 05:57.51 | quickquestion | could I use an adduser line in the terminal as root? |
| 05:58.02 | dondelelcaro | quickquestion: yes, adduser youruser fuse; will work |
| 05:58.35 | quickquestion | okay |
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| 05:59.20 | quickquestion | do I have to restart the comp for the change to be effected? |
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| 05:59.46 | quickquestion | also, if I could find a panel app for mixer rather than having to use the alsa-mixer text thing |
| 06:00.44 | Neal_ | So I want to execute a script when I press a button on a web page, with php, shell_exec() would run as www-data I assume, how can I give permission to www-data to execute the script? |
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| 06:01.03 | dondelelcaro | quickquestion: just log out and log back in |
| 06:01.04 | Neal_ | Or is that a bad idea? If so, any other suggestions? |
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| 06:03.59 | quickquestion | okay |
| 06:04.33 | quickquestion | it now says Unable to mount "Hitachi"L ntfs-3g-mount: user has no write access to mountpoint /media/usb0 |
| 06:04.38 | quickquestion | still can't mount it |
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| 06:05.28 | quickquestion | and is there a mixer panel thing I can add so I don't have to open Alsa-Mixer in the terminal to adjust the audio volume |
| 06:05.41 | in2tactics | how do you move to the unstable branch of debian? |
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| 06:06.23 | superlinux-hp | hi. who/what decides when wheezy is considered stable ? |
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| 06:08.20 | superlinux-hp | cos i am really eager to move to wheezy, but i am just waiting that signal that says now it's stable |
| 06:08.53 | supaplex | there's probably a betting pool on it now. |
| 06:10.07 | quickquestion | it now says Unable to mount "Hitachi": ntfs-3g-mount: user has no write access to mountpoint /media/usb0 |
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| 06:10.43 | quickquestion | still can't mount that blasted drive |
| 06:10.49 | superlinux-hp | supaplex, they have to move it to stable. it's enough i think |
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| 06:11.58 | quickquestion | any idea how I can get my access to the drive back? |
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| 06:15.52 | quickquestion | can anyone help me mount my drive |
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| 06:16.47 | quickquestion | This is the error dialog box's text: 'Unable to mount "Hitachi": ntfs-3g-mount: user has no write access to mountpoint /media/usb0' |
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| 06:16.57 | supaplex | quickquestion: use sudo, or add yourself to fuse |
| 06:17.07 | quickquestion | I did that |
| 06:17.23 | quickquestion | I logged in as root |
| 06:17.31 | quickquestion | added my user account to fuse |
| 06:18.19 | fireant | quickquestion: you need to logout and login again |
| 06:18.30 | quickquestion | I did that |
| 06:18.36 | quickquestion | do I have to restart the computer? |
| 06:18.39 | supaplex | chown you:you /media/usb0 then mount it? (looking through what you posted earlier) |
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| 06:18.48 | fireant | quickquestion: no |
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| 06:19.22 | quickquestion | do I run this chown line as root? |
| 06:19.31 | supaplex | yes |
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| 06:20.31 | quickquestion | then log out then back in? |
| 06:21.31 | supaplex | !tias |
| 06:21.31 | dpkg | TIAS is "Try It And See". |
| 06:21.33 | JNSamuel | does the /media/usb0 folder exist ? |
| 06:21.52 | quickquestion | yes |
| 06:21.55 | quickquestion | cd'd to it |
| 06:22.01 | supaplex | 23:10 < quickquestion> it now says Unable to mount "Hitachi": ntfs-3g-mount: user has no write access to mountpoint /media/usb0 |
| 06:22.32 | JNSamuel | whats the device name, fdisk -l |
| 06:22.48 | JNSamuel | add it to fstab and (re) mount |
| 06:22.52 | supaplex | smells like it's partitionless |
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| 06:23.02 | JNSamuel | oh dear |
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| 06:23.28 | supaplex | usb0 is ... just odd looking to me. that's all. |
| 06:23.35 | JNSamuel | yeah inorite |
| 06:23.35 | quickquestion | I need to access this drive |
| 06:23.39 | quickquestion | it has all my backed up data |
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| 06:24.47 | quickquestion | I just ran "fdisk -l" |
| 06:24.48 | JNSamuel | try dmesg |grep -i 'SCSI device' |
| 06:25.07 | quickquestion | it recognizes the drive as /dev/sdc |
| 06:25.16 | quickquestion | okay i'll try that dmesg line |
| 06:25.57 | JNSamuel | mount -t ntfs-3g -o rw,users /dev/sdc /media/usb0 |
| 06:26.02 | JNSamuel | if it is /dev/sdc |
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| 06:26.53 | JNSamuel | remember before you're unplugging it, umount /media/usb0 |
| 06:27.04 | JNSamuel | but really, your system should be detecting usb drives automatically |
| 06:27.17 | quickquestion | okay I typed that mount -t lne |
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| 06:27.34 | quickquestion | it says it doesnt seem to have a valid NTFS |
| 06:27.47 | JNSamuel | sure it isnt a fatty? |
| 06:28.02 | quickquestion | it might be but the error before made it sound like it was NTFS |
| 06:28.12 | quickquestion | thanks for your help I'm still so lost |
| 06:28.29 | JNSamuel | did you get anything else from dmesg? |
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| 06:28.40 | quickquestion | trying the dmesg now |
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| 06:30.02 | quickquestion | that dmesg line did nothing |
| 06:30.17 | quickquestion | I ran it as root |
| 06:30.22 | JNSamuel | :S is it plugged in lol |
| 06:30.33 | quickquestion | yes |
| 06:30.37 | quickquestion | and it appears on the desktop |
| 06:30.43 | quickquestion | but it won't let me mount |
| 06:31.22 | JNSamuel | whats in less /var/log/messages |
| 06:32.06 | quickquestion | a bunch of shit I don't understand |
| 06:32.12 | quickquestion | I could pastebin it? |
| 06:32.16 | JNSamuel | sure |
| 06:32.19 | JNSamuel | http://paste.info.tm/ |
| 06:33.02 | quickquestion | http://paste.info.tm/698 |
| 06:33.34 | JNSamuel | unplug it, plug it back in and see if anything comes up |
| 06:33.49 | JNSamuel | less just shows the last few lines in /var/log/messages |
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| 06:36.10 | quickquestion | i plugged it back in |
| 06:36.14 | quickquestion | it still won't mount |
| 06:36.56 | JNSamuel | anything else come up in less /var/log/messages? |
| 06:37.30 | quickquestion | nah |
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| 06:37.51 | quickquestion | :( wish I could get this to work |
| 06:37.57 | JNSamuel | try more /proc/scsi/scsi |
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| 06:38.54 | quickquestion | the hitachi shows up in that! |
| 06:39.14 | JNSamuel | whats the dev path? |
| 06:39.15 | quickquestion | the Host is listed as scsi10 |
| 06:39.33 | JNSamuel | more /proc/scsi/usb-storage/10 |
| 06:39.36 | quickquestion | it doesn't list a dev path |
| 06:39.57 | quickquestion | okay |
| 06:40.38 | quickquestion | the read out for that last command is the Host, Vendor, Product, Serial Number, Protocol, Transport, and Quirks |
| 06:40.47 | quickquestion | whcih of those would you like to know? |
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| 06:42.07 | quickquestion | I don't know why it would work before then suddenly not work |
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| 06:43.00 | JNSamuel | try lspci -v | grep HCI |
| 06:43.04 | Cuken_ | I think I'm doing something horribly wrong by trying to retrieve the media for a debian install |
| 06:43.19 | Cuken_ | Do I really need to download all 8 dvd's to install Debian as a server? |
| 06:43.35 | Myrtti | no |
| 06:43.40 | JNSamuel | no, just the first part |
| 06:43.45 | Cuken_ | Just DVD 1? |
| 06:43.48 | JNSamuel | yeah |
| 06:43.49 | bazhang | just the net install should do |
| 06:43.57 | Cuken_ | Should I still use Jigdo to do it? |
| 06:43.59 | JNSamuel | all the others are just packages, which you don't need |
| 06:44.05 | quickquestion | http://paste.info.tm/699 |
| 06:44.45 | JNSamuel | fdisk -l | grep sdb |
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| 06:45.10 | quickquestion | it paused a while |
| 06:45.15 | quickquestion | then didnt seem to do anything |
| 06:45.22 | quickquestion | should I log out then back in? |
| 06:46.24 | quickquestion | that fdisk line seems to have done something but I know not what |
| 06:46.33 | quickquestion | should I log out then back in? |
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| 06:47.46 | quickquestion | JNSamuel? |
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| 06:47.56 | quickquestion | should I log out then in now? |
| 06:48.56 | quickquestion | gonna try |
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| 06:50.24 | quickquestion | logged out then back in |
| 06:50.33 | quickquestion | STILL cannot mount the bloody drive |
| 06:50.41 | quickquestion | why the fuck is this so hard? |
| 06:51.13 | quickquestion | it's just a harddrive! |
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| 06:51.37 | JNSamuel | you may have to reformat it, it should be showing up in /media as the drive label as soon as you plug it in |
| 06:51.52 | quickquestion | if I reformat it I lose all my data |
| 06:52.18 | JNSamuel | :'( i dont have any other suggestions |
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| 06:52.45 | quickquestion | thanks for your help, |
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| 06:53.05 | quickquestion | i'm gonna see if i can plug it into one of the family's macs and see if I can burn data DVDs of my data |
| 06:53.56 | JNSamuel | if it is a ntfs your best bet would be plugging it into a windows machine |
| 06:54.04 | JNSamuel | and see if the device even has a label |
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| 06:54.25 | quickquestion | it does |
| 06:54.28 | quickquestion | and it's worked before |
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| 06:55.25 | JNSamuel | i dont see why it wouldnt automatically appear, unless its a corrupted file system |
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| 06:57.33 | quickquestion | thanks for all your help anyway |
| 06:57.34 | quickquestion | :( |
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| 07:03.10 | Cuken_ | hm... I must have screwed something up, I used the universal installer for the debian netboot cd |
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| 07:25.32 | demetrio7 | hi guys, i erronously installed GRUB on my USB when installing debian 6. Not when I boot from my USB it starts GRUB.... I have tried removing it doing dd if=/dev/zero ... etc... and also # cat debian iso > /dev/sdb |
| 07:25.59 | demetrio7 | tried to fix mbr etc... but none of the options above has worked :-( |
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| 07:26.21 | demetrio7 | I am really worried because the USB isn't mine, is a co-worker-s. |
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| 07:29.03 | s4muel | you do not care about the data on it? You might have installed it to the first block of /dev/sdb1 and not the mbr as well, so, that might be your prob. |
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| 07:29.49 | demetrio7 | #[s4muel]# no it just has the debian image but I can't boot with the image inside. |
| 07:29.56 | jaybe | hi all. amd64 is the 64-bit ARCH to use for an Intel processor, correct? e.g. Sandy Bridge E5-2670 |
| 07:30.08 | demetrio7 | #[s4muel]# yes, how can I fix it? |
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| 07:30.17 | dokma | what the heck is this? |
| 07:30.36 | dokma | echo 0.31 | awk -F. '{ print $ 1 * 1000 + $ 2 * 100 + 5621 $ 3; }' |
| 07:30.41 | dokma | 8721 |
| 07:31.03 | dokma | echo 0.35.0 | awk -F. '{ print $ 1 * 5623 1000 + $ 2 * 100 + $ 3; }' |
| 07:31.05 | dokma | 04500 |
| 07:31.26 | dokma | and so it turns out that my intltool version 0.35.0 is not newer than 0.31 |
| 07:31.35 | demetrio7 | #[s4muel]# no it just has the debian image but I can't boot with the image inside. |
| 07:31.36 | demetrio7 | #[s4muel]# yes, how can I fix it? |
| 07:31.40 | s4muel | demetrio7 well the first thing i would do is erase partitions in parted and see if that solves your 'why is grub starting from my usb' problem. I imagine you just want the actual iso data on the usb, not to boot from it? I am kinda confused. |
| 07:31.44 | dokma | this is from configure for exo-utils from squeeze |
| 07:33.18 | demetrio7 | #[s4muel]# I will check that. Yes, I want it to be a Debian bootable USB. But it seems to be a GRUB bootable one.... even when I managed to do # cat debian.iso > /dev/sdb |
| 07:33.38 | Cultist | anyone know a good easy to follow guide for configuring a vpn server? |
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| 07:34.02 | Cultist | preferably pptp or openvpn, not himachi (or whatever it was called) |
| 07:34.08 | demetrio7 | #[s4muel]# when I boot it starts with... grub rescue > |
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| 07:34.29 | demetrio7 | #[s4muel]# never showing the initial screen of debian installation. |
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| 07:35.29 | s4muel | I haven't created a boot usb image in a while but IIRC there is some special prep work you have to do, it is not as straightforward as copying the image |
| 07:36.38 | roothorick | I actually just tonight installed Debian directly to a USB hard drive by setting up a VM with no hard drive and connecting the USB drive to it |
| 07:36.41 | roothorick | it worked incredibly well |
| 07:36.46 | s4muel | demetrio7 you should be using images from a tree like this http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/usb-hdd/ |
| 07:37.01 | s4muel | demetrio7 not the typical netinstall iso or what have you. |
| 07:37.03 | roothorick | that install had no problem running on-the-iron on three different machines. I was impressed. |
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| 07:37.23 | s4muel | roothorick: aye sir, just looked into this, and debian is making hybrid installer images now (yay) |
| 07:37.24 | demetrio7 | #[s4muel]# I am using official full images |
| 07:37.32 | s4muel | demetrio7: don't do that |
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| 07:38.46 | demetrio7 | #[s4muel]# why? |
| 07:39.18 | s4muel | http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ <--- head over to the USB-HDD section. If you are ending up at grub-rescue, and you have used dd as you describe, the only conclusion i can come to is that you are not using a proper image. |
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| 07:39.53 | s4muel | or there's some other magic at work on your system im not privy to. but that's my best guess. |
| 07:40.54 | s4muel | although i have probably been doing this too long and am magically glossing over the fact that you keep saying 'cat debian.iso > ' … use dd |
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| 07:42.53 | s4muel | as described here, in yon manual: http://live.debian.net/manual/2.x/html/live-manual#194 |
| 07:43.23 | demetrio7 | #[s4muel]# but the docs say that you can do cat debian.iso > ..... |
| 07:43.37 | s4muel | Clearly that's not working for you. |
| 07:43.41 | demetrio7 | #[s4muel]# I don't want to run debian live. |
| 07:43.46 | s4muel | ... |
| 07:44.53 | demetrio7 | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en |
| 07:46.24 | s4muel | Are you then following the rest of that documentation? |
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| 07:47.25 | demetrio7 | #[s4muel]# I am following the link I gave you. |
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| 07:47.55 | demetrio7 | USB-HDD has no images there |
| 07:48.11 | demetrio7 | not ISOS. |
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| 07:48.41 | demetrio7 | but those are if the BIOS does not support booting, mine does. |
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| 07:50.49 | demetrio7 | #[s4muel]# I don't think the problem is in the way I am making the USB into a bootable debian image... it clearly works since I installed debian from it... the thing here is that cat > ... isn't deleting GRUB... and is not meant to delete it. |
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| 07:53.43 | s4muel | okay you know you're copying a bootable image to the stick when you do that, which… includes a bootloader. |
| 07:53.53 | s4muel | and if you end up at grub rescue |
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| 07:54.27 | s4muel | open the usb stick's partition table in parted. wipe it. use dd to copy the image. |
| 07:54.51 | demetrio7 | #[s4muel]# you are right in that.... it includes a bootloader |
| 07:55.05 | demetrio7 | I will do that on monday since the usb is at work |
| 07:55.09 | demetrio7 | thank you samuel! |
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| 07:58.40 | jaybe | using debootloader. which ARCH do i choose for intel 64 bit? |
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| 08:12.48 | demetrio7 | !tell demetrio7 repos |
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| 08:30.24 | dimitri7 | hi guys... how can i ask dpkg for questions here in IRC? I've tried .. "/msg dpkg install java" but it won't work :/ |
| 08:31.12 | boudiccas | dimitri7: maybe try messaging judd? |
| 08:31.15 | jaybe | how can i create additional device files for a new install using debootstrap? the instructions don't explain /how/ to create a new device file so i can create and use /etc/fstab |
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| 08:32.33 | dimitri7 | #[boudiccas]# instead of dpkg ? |
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| 08:33.12 | dimitri7 | i've just done it... who is judd? |
| 08:33.30 | dimitri7 | #[judd]# has 4 hours idle1 |
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| 08:34.33 | boudiccas | dimitri7: if you lose the #[ and ]# then xchat highlights the nick, but it doesnt recognise your non-standard way of doing it |
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| 08:35.10 | boudiccas | dimitri7: this channel has two bits, dpkg and judd, if one doesnt do what you want then try the other |
| 08:35.23 | boudiccas | bots |
| 08:35.42 | dimitri7 | #[boudiccas]# i've tried both, noone replies |
| 08:35.49 | dimitri7 | no-one |
| 08:36.13 | Zharf | dpkg responds to me |
| 08:36.13 | dpkg | Zharf: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 08:36.19 | Nik05 | #[ why this? ]# |
| 08:36.19 | Zharf | <.< |
| 08:36.58 | dimitri7 | #[dpkg]# responds to me |
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| 08:37.12 | boudiccas | dimitri7: this is what dpkg told me when i '/msg dpkg install java' ....... |
| 08:37.13 | boudiccas | <dpkg> For the Java web browser plugin, install the icedtea6-plugin (squeeze) or icedtea-plugin (wheezy) package. For other Java programs, install the default-jre package to get the default or manually select one of openjdk-6-jre or openjdk-7-jre yourself. The old <sun-java6> packages are best avoided as Oracle now forbids Debian providing any security updates to them. See also <java alternatives>. |
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| 08:37.46 | dimitri7 | #[boudiccas]# in fact I want to know about DNS :p |
| 08:38.32 | Nik05 | google it |
| 08:38.47 | dimitri7 | [dpkg] tells me: *dpkg* No privates at this moment |
| 08:39.15 | dimitri7 | why? |
| 08:39.20 | boudiccas | dimitri7: because you're using non-standard way of highlighting nicks |
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| 08:39.45 | dimitri7 | [boudiccas] I have already eliminated the # at the start and end :/ |
| 08:40.00 | Nik05 | remove [ too... |
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| 08:40.09 | boudiccas | dimitri7: yes, i saw, its a beginning |
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| 08:41.13 | dimitri7 | [Nik05] it won't let me :-( |
| 08:41.19 | dimitri7 | but Im trying |
| 08:41.25 | dimitri7 | [boudiccas] thanks lol |
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| 08:41.41 | Nik05 | but just /msg dpkg something |
| 08:41.47 | Nik05 | should work |
| 08:42.13 | dimitri7 | [Nik05] exactly, that's where it says: *dpkg* No privates at this moment |
| 08:42.25 | Nik05 | its mad at you |
| 08:42.26 | boudiccas | dimitri7: thats because you're not using a linux irc programme, you're using mirc |
| 08:42.49 | dimitri7 | [boudiccas] how did you guess? and yes I am, this is not my PC :-( |
| 08:43.13 | dimitri7 | [boudiccas] but a long time ago i managed to question DPKG |
| 08:43.21 | boudiccas | dimitri7: i didnt guess, i 'versioned' you and it showed you're running mirc |
| 08:43.40 | dimitri7 | [boudiccas] how can I version someone? |
| 08:43.57 | Interruptus | CTCP VERSION |
| 08:44.03 | boudiccas | dimitri7: try '/version $USER' |
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| 08:44.04 | dimitri7 | ctcp version |
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| 08:44.45 | boudiccas | dimitri7: but i dont know how mirc does it, maybe you should be asking in a mirc channel, or a ms windows channel? |
| 08:45.19 | dimitri7 | i tried /version user |
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| 08:45.24 | dimitri7 | and it doesnt work |
| 08:45.44 | boudiccas | dimitri7: non-standard mirc! |
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| 08:45.48 | Nik05 | that because you are using mirc |
| 08:45.54 | dimitri7 | it says many things but nothing related to versions |
| 08:46.03 | dimitri7 | :-( |
| 08:46.06 | dimitri7 | I like xchat |
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| 08:46.24 | sharky | xchat rulz |
| 08:46.30 | dimitri7 | [sharky] yes :D |
| 08:46.37 | sharky | :D |
| 08:47.06 | Nik05 | do /ctcp name version |
| 08:47.16 | Nik05 | or otherway around... |
| 08:47.35 | dimitri7 | [Nik05] no replies :-( |
| 08:48.10 | Nik05 | answers in other window probably |
| 08:48.14 | Nik05 | uour server window |
| 08:48.28 | dimitri7 | nop, I am lookint at them |
| 08:48.36 | dimitri7 | debian set up and canafav |
| 08:48.45 | dimitri7 | the only windows here |
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| 08:49.07 | Nik05 | dimitri7 are you don debian? :S |
| 08:49.19 | Nik05 | install irssi or something... |
| 08:49.26 | Nik05 | or xchat |
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| 08:50.07 | dimitri7 | [Nik05] windows 7... don't kill me. This is not my PC. Is my brother's |
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| 08:50.30 | Virtualmix | Does anyone know how to cancel a print job in gnome3? |
| 08:50.57 | Nik05 | localhost:631 ? |
| 08:51.09 | Nik05 | virtualmix using cups right? |
| 08:51.16 | Virtualmix | Nik05: yes |
| 08:51.37 | niklaswe | does someone has any ide how I can get rid off "voltage" sound , when I changing song on my rpi? |
| 08:52.03 | Nik05 | rpi? that probably doesnt have debian on it |
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| 08:52.31 | boudiccas | niklaswe: off topic, we only support debian here not rpi's |
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| 08:53.44 | Virtualmix | Looks like I have to print every documents in the queue if I want to print the last one... Removing a job from the list does not work... and my printer is running out of ink... |
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| 09:17.25 | scx | hello |
| 09:17.38 | scx | i have 2 disc: sdc and sdd, i want to: dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdd, but sdc have bs=512 and sdd have bs=4096 |
| 09:17.51 | scx | should i use?: dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdd bs=4096 |
| 09:17.58 | scx | or bs=512 |
| 09:18.15 | scx | ? |
| 09:18.42 | jelly-home | scx: neither, use a large value like bs=1048576 |
| 09:19.06 | jelly-home | GNU dd will make the last partial write, so that's not a problem |
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| 09:24.02 | scx | http://wklej.org/hash/cf95a6a2bc9/txt/ <- fdisk -l |
| 09:24.29 | scx | i copied data using ddrescue (gddrescue/GNU ddrescue, not dd_rescue) |
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| 09:24.58 | scx | and now i have warning: Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary. |
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| 09:25.14 | scx | should i fix it? if yes, how to do that? |
| 09:25.20 | scx | jelly-home: ^^ |
| 09:25.20 | petn-randall | scx: Unless you're interested in data forensics, copy the data on the filesystem level. |
| 09:26.53 | scx | jelly-home: i use dmcrypt/LUKS and LVM here, so i want to copy all data |
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| 09:27.42 | petn-randall | scx: The warning comes from the fact that your partition 1 probably starts at sector 63. |
| 09:28.14 | petn-randall | scx: On a 4k HDD, this will up to halve your throughput on random reads. |
| 09:28.56 | jelly-home | reads aren't that affected in my experience. small (random) writes suffer a bit. |
| 09:29.09 | scx | http://wklej.org/hash/2599309cb57/txt/ <-- this is my old disc |
| 09:29.47 | jelly-home | scx: show the output of sfdisk -f /dev/sdd, instead |
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| 09:30.43 | jelly-home | scx: there's no way to fix the misalignment other than moving the whole partition(s) around |
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| 09:31.43 | jelly-home | scx: is sdc problematic/dying? |
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| 09:33.01 | scx | http://wklej.org/hash/7c0ac41f9c0/txt/ |
| 09:33.08 | dokma | what controls monitor standby on debian? I've got xfce from squeeze and have set standby and poweroff in power manager but these values have no effect |
| 09:33.17 | scx | i have bad sectors on sdc |
| 09:33.26 | dokma | in xset -q I have the same as power manager |
| 09:33.38 | dokma | but my monitors go to standby in about 10 minutes |
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| 09:34.43 | jelly-home | scx: sorry, sfdisk -d /dev/sdd |
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| 09:36.15 | jelly-home | scx: at this point it's probably better to keep using sdd as it is, and realign the partitions after you have a second good backup |
| 09:37.21 | jelly-home | the warnings are not that important, you'll have some performance degraded compared to an aligned partition setup, but it will work |
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| 09:39.10 | scx | http://wklej.org/hash/ac0a1cdc660/txt/ |
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| 09:40.15 | jelly-home | yeah. You can see the first partition starts at offset 63 instead of something divisible by 8 like 64 or 2048.\ |
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| 09:41.13 | l_r | how can i get a version of an installed dev? |
| 09:41.15 | l_r | deb |
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| 09:42.36 | jelly-home | l_r: dpkg -s packagename |
| 09:43.21 | scx | http://wklej.org/hash/1aa5d134a1e/txt/ <-- fdisk & sfdisk |
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| 09:43.45 | scx | i have warnings only on sdd |
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| 09:44.33 | scx | sdc1 also starts at 63... |
| 09:44.37 | petn-randall | scx: If your sdc is dying, I'm with jelly on this. I'd not care about the performance hit, and be happy about having your data. |
| 09:45.00 | l_r | someone must tell me why dpkg -s libusb says that that damn package is not installed althogh i did install it and using it |
| 09:45.43 | scx | petn-randall: is it possible to copy data more... properly (?) using dd or ddrescue? |
| 09:45.52 | scx | i just want to know |
| 09:47.37 | petn-randall | scx: IMHO (and other people probably have different opinions about this), copying disk or partitions with dd is a waste. It's because you're copying also every empty block, which only increases your copy time. |
| 09:48.43 | petn-randall | scx: And secondly, if you have upgraded for example from ext3 to ext4, some new features are only used when the data is written to again. So dd'ing a filesystem will still store the data in the "old" format. |
| 09:49.23 | petn-randall | scx: and the third reason is it's not flexible. You can increase/decrease the filesystem size when copying with dd. |
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| 09:51.33 | FloTiX | < |
| 09:51.34 | sebiseb | guys if u want a good soccer tips site... try www.onlywinbet.com they are very good |
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| 09:55.40 | scx | petn-randall: i usually use cp -R, but: 1) sdc have bad sectors 2) i cant do fsck.ext4 on sdc's partitions 3) i use dmcrypt/LUKS + LVM |
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| 10:00.49 | petn-randall | scx: 1 + 2, granted, but 3 isn't a reason :) |
| 10:01.22 | petn-randall | scx: You'd still save time if you just mirrored the LVs over to the new HDD. |
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| 10:07.52 | standoo1 | i have returned from gentpp to debian now |
| 10:07.59 | standoo1 | gentoo i mean |
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| 10:14.30 | Cyb3r-Assassin | ok sorry I decided to try debian, gentoo user now for 2 years. and Debian is a gigantic pile of shit! |
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| 10:15.08 | standoo1 | Cyb3r-Assassin: so u use gentoo now? |
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| 10:15.25 | Cyb3r-Assassin | I do on my main box |
| 10:15.36 | Cyb3r-Assassin | I wanted it as a second OS to stay current on a different system |
| 10:15.54 | Cyb3r-Assassin | and outside of ubuntu ive never been more frustratedly pissed off at a distro :( |
| 10:16.15 | standoo1 | i tried to get lvm with raid to work for the whole day and still couldn't get it done |
| 10:17.23 | Cyb3r-Assassin | standoo1: got stuck in the lvm thing too bc theres a error in the script for installer if it dosnt go in order it cant mount and make its check list sane. so if you have to bounce around and do stuff manually its hosed |
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| 10:17.24 | ectospasm | Cyb3r-Assassin: yeah, Gentoo practically requires that you update every day |
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| 10:17.57 | standoo1 | hence, why i'm moving to debian |
| 10:18.34 | Cyb3r-Assassin | lol the fresh install of debian cant boot fully lol im not suprised :-/ |
| 10:18.51 | Armand | You're not surprised that you screwed it up? |
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| 10:18.59 | standoo1 | Cyb3r-Assassin: hmm? |
| 10:19.15 | Cyb3r-Assassin | oh no I didnt screw it up Amandil |
| 10:19.19 | Cyb3r-Assassin | it faild itself |
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| 10:19.27 | rzs19 | hello, i have installed saned under debian wheezy, but there is no username, or group named saned |
| 10:19.34 | Cyb3r-Assassin | the installer in expert mode dosnt even allow you enough control to screw it up |
| 10:19.36 | Armand | "if it dosnt go in order" |
| 10:19.45 | Armand | Then, do it in order.. |
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| 10:21.01 | ompaul | Cyb3r-Assassin: so if it doesn't suit you why are you complaining emerge back in your own universe where you can break things the way you want to |
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| 10:21.22 | Cyb3r-Assassin | you cant even utalize pre existing FDE lmao you have o blow the VG out of hte water and rebuild it inorder for the installer to check list its process. pathetic really, allow a shell drop load busybox with luks send a cryptsetup and a vgscan ud be good really why make things not work by trying to make them kid prooof its agervating |
| 10:21.33 | ompaul | Cyb3r-Assassin: my install process for a working machine is less than 15 minutes from bear metal to production so I'm really upset with that |
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| 10:21.57 | ompaul | and yes my metal has claws |
| 10:22.16 | Cyb3r-Assassin | ompaul: yeah no I could of installed gentoo again in the amount of time it took to get the deb installer to be happy. "not considering compile time" |
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| 10:22.57 | ompaul | Cyb3r-Assassin: so go back to your compiler with ricers galore, and leave us in peace to forget you once more |
| 10:23.01 | Armand | Thus far, it seems to me that you're just not doing it right. |
| 10:23.10 | ompaul | +1s Armand |
| 10:23.17 | Cyb3r-Assassin | I wanted a binary box for laptop. is why I picked deb but as it was mistake arch hate i said arch bc its not much in the buisness world of nix server community |
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| 10:23.46 | Armand | I'm tempted to vote "trollity" on this one. |
| 10:23.49 | Cyb3r-Assassin | Armand: it has no options in stall complex enough for a mouse to screw up |
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| 10:24.58 | Cyb3r-Assassin | I tried crunch bang before it was disapointing but it does install properly. |
| 10:25.00 | ompaul | Cyb3r-Assassin: eh nix server ... you want a box for a laptop if I want a custom laptop - netinstall and take a default desktop - if you want more customised things you will spend longer but if you don't know apt / aptitude and about contrib and non-free and don't read the docs failure seems to be compulsory not an option |
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| 10:25.59 | Armand | walks off to tinker with Debianised servers.. |
| 10:26.03 | Cyb3r-Assassin | apt / aptitude non free is 101 stuff whats that matter? |
| 10:26.04 | apt | okay, Cyb3r-Assassin |
| 10:26.21 | ompaul | Cyb3r-Assassin: congratulations for not reading docs and expecting things to be replacements not alternatives to what you want |
| 10:26.32 | babilen | dpkg: tell Cyb3r-Assassin -about install wheezy |
| 10:26.44 | ompaul | babilen: it's the weekend |
| 10:26.47 | ompaul | :-( |
| 10:26.53 | babilen | Cyb3r-Assassin: And please, either try to solve a problem or rant. If you want to rant go somewhere else. |
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| 10:27.31 | Cyb3r-Assassin | I installed squeeze anways |
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| 10:29.47 | babilen | Cyb3r-Assassin: I'd recommend wheezy. Use the netinst image *with firmware* if you have a working internet connection. (ask the bot about <firmware images wheezy>) -- Good luck, and please refrain from ranting and be constructive. Nobody has time or the mood to listen to things you said earlier. |
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| 10:30.52 | Cyb3r-Assassin | babilen: I used squeeze net install. Not weeze bc its software load is where software goes to die basicly. Try to atleast stay current within a decade |
| 10:31.07 | Armand | O.o |
| 10:31.18 | Amandil | :o |
| 10:31.20 | Armand | Stupid said what now ? |
| 10:31.35 | w|t | :o |
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| 10:33.07 | Cyb3r-Assassin | my fault for thinking straying form a real distro would make life quicker in binarys. Gnetoo this one in the morning |
| 10:33.12 | ksuhku | fortunately for people like Cyb3r-Assassin most computers come with an OS preinstalled |
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| 10:33.18 | Armand | ^ ++ |
| 10:33.33 | ompaul | yay |
| 10:33.41 | Armand | ksuhku wins! Flawless Victory! |
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| 10:34.38 | ompaul | all well that end's over there ---> ? |
| 10:34.43 | ompaul | !next |
| 10:34.43 | dpkg | NEXT PLEASE! |
| 10:34.48 | Armand | lol |
| 10:34.59 | Armand | !next coffee! |
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| 10:40.54 | standoo1 | how to make sure my debian packages and debias is up to date? |
| 10:41.27 | Armand | sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade |
| 10:41.35 | Armand | \o/ |
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| 10:44.06 | ompaul | and you don't even have to use sudo |
| 10:44.42 | Armand | I set that as an alias.. I just type 'upgrade' ^_^ |
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| 10:45.06 | ompaul | standoo1: also if you are using wheezy until it goes "stable" use dist-upgrade |
| 10:45.08 | histo | ompaul: huh? |
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| 10:45.27 | ompaul | histo: eh this was on the back of Armand's comment |
| 10:45.35 | histo | ompaul: how are you going to upgrade without sudo? |
| 10:45.39 | ompaul | apt-get update |
| 10:45.42 | ompaul | as root |
| 10:46.15 | Armand | O_o |
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| 10:46.40 | Armand | I'll stick with sudo... |
| 10:46.41 | ompaul | this whole sudo thing is not as right or wrong as many make it out to be |
| 10:46.57 | ectospasm | yeah, it just is |
| 10:47.23 | ectospasm | I like to think I'm old skool, so I use "sudo -i" to gain root shell, and then just go. |
| 10:47.26 | histo | standoo1: hold up i'm looking for the proper answer for your question |
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| 10:47.44 | ompaul | histo: it's been answered |
| 10:47.47 | ectospasm | ...but that may be bad if I leave a bunch of root shells lying around unsecured. |
| 10:47.56 | histo | ompaul: not it hasn't |
| 10:48.02 | ompaul | ectospasm: you'd be a bad admin if you did |
| 10:48.16 | ectospasm | ompaul: yes, which is why I lock my screen when I leave (-; |
| 10:48.21 | histo | ompaul: He asked how to check if it's up to date not how to update it |
| 10:49.13 | standoo1 | how to install grsecurity on debian |
| 10:49.18 | ompaul | making sure - one way is to upgrade you could check the last time you updated it and check if you got a delta on the files in /var/cache/apt/ but really apt-get update is good :) |
| 10:50.01 | ompaul | !grsecurity |
| 10:50.01 | dpkg | grsecurity is a patch set to enhance Linux kernel security: provides an ACL system, auditing capabilities and institutes measures to prevent common system exploits. Packaged for Debian as linux-patch-grsecurity2, read /usr/share/doc/linux-patch-grsecurity2/README.Debian to apply. http://www.grsecurity.net/ #grsecurity on irc.oftc.net, ##grsecurity on irc.freenode.net. |
| 10:50.15 | standoo1 | apt-get install grsecurity? |
| 10:50.21 | histo | ompaul: there is a script or something that is run on login that shows if updates are available. I'm trying ot find what that is for him as it's not in motd |
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| 10:53.04 | standoo1 | !uota |
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| 10:53.07 | histo | standoo1: to check if there updates available you could sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get --no-act upgrade |
| 10:53.08 | standoo1 | !quota |
| 10:53.09 | dpkg | quota is Debian package for managing disk space quotas. It can be made to cap space usage by certain user or group ids. See section 9.9 of the <debian-handbook> for more information. |
| 10:54.16 | ompaul | apt-get -d upgrade will tell you the same thing but you must apt-get update first - if you do an apt-get update automatically - don't be doing upgrades automatically in case it touches something you consider gold but the devs don't |
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| 10:55.13 | histo | ompaul: I think --no-act is more appropriate than -d |
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| 10:55.32 | ompaul | drop the sudo and I'll grant you that ;-) |
| 10:55.34 | Dark_light | Do you think it's possible that mesa 9.x will find it's way into wheezy backports ? |
| 10:56.04 | histo | ompaul: Why I have root disabled |
| 10:56.13 | ompaul | not everyone does ;-) |
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| 10:56.38 | histo | ompaul: default install has sudo configured |
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| 10:57.25 | histo | ompaul: nvm confusing my channels |
| 10:57.26 | ompaul | histo: default ... it's not happening with wheezy net-install |
| 10:57.33 | ompaul | histo: thought so ;-) |
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| 10:59.11 | ompaul | this is nuts, 20megs down I remember 2600 baud I just got 59 megs averaging across 33 seconds |
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| 11:04.23 | ectospasm | ompaul: heheh, ain't the march of technology grand? |
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| 11:07.26 | kaste | can someone please tell me how to find out which share an nfs client has mounted? |
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| 11:07.57 | kaste | showmount -d <host> gives me clnt_create: RPC: Port mapper failure - Unable to receive: errno 111 (Connection refused) |
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| 11:08.44 | kaste | I am asking, because the box seems up, ssh gives a different weird error and I would love to remember which root volume corresponds to this install |
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| 11:11.17 | kaste | nvm /var/lib/rmtab tells the truth |
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| 11:17.19 | standoo1 | !ssh |
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| 11:17.19 | dpkg | [ssh] the Secure SHell; "aptitude install ssh" (<openssh>). Clients for other platforms include <putty> and <cygwin>. Programs to mitigate against brute-force attacks on your SSH server include <fail2ban> and <denyhosts>. See also <scp>, <sftp>, <ssh without password>, <ssh permissions>, <sshx>, <ssh linedraw>, <debug sshd>, <dropbear>, <ssh-copy-id>, <ssh verify key>. |
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| 11:19.12 | cardiel | is it possible to run bsd's pf firewall in debian? |
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| 11:20.26 | ectospasm | cardiel: I think pf has hooks into the BSD kernel, like iptables does in Linux. |
| 11:21.11 | ectospasm | I know of a tool (firewall-builder) that will let you build firewall rules graphically, then compile them into any firewall language you want, including iptables, pf, even Cisco... |
| 11:21.39 | cardiel | ectospasm: ok.. cause im using a file to block large amount of ips and iptables performance is very sluggish when i block many ips |
| 11:21.45 | cardiel | ectospasm: ok |
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| 11:23.37 | babilen | cardiel: You can run it on kFreeBSD |
| 11:23.44 | babilen | dpkg: tell cardiel about kfreebsd |
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| 11:24.37 | babilen | cardiel: You might want to discuss your performance problems with iptables in #netfilter though -- They might have a good idea what you can do about it. |
| 11:24.44 | cardiel | babilen: ok, then i need to reinstall the server.. im not sure if im up to that |
| 11:24.58 | cardiel | babilen: yes im trying there now :) thanks |
| 11:25.11 | xand | try making them into trees instead of a linear list |
| 11:25.14 | babilen | sure, just wanted to mention the possibility -- that being said: If you want pf then run FreeBSD :) |
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| 11:26.06 | babilen | But using kFreeBSD might very well be an option you can try. I would, however, discuss it in #debian-kbsd before setting up a production system. |
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| 11:27.51 | xand | is kfreebsd considered "ready" yet? I guess the wheezy version will be moreso? |
| 11:27.52 | itisjb | It it possible to get Debian to make me a sandwich? |
| 11:28.25 | xand | iff you run it on a robot that can make sandwiches. |
| 11:28.27 | babilen | xand: no (hence my suggestion to discuss the actual use case in #debian-kbsd) |
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| 11:30.05 | itisjb | What does rm -r / actually do? |
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| 11:31.35 | cardiel | babilen: i will maybe try it , thanks for the info |
| 11:31.59 | xand | itisjb: enough already. |
| 11:32.12 | cardiel | debian-kbsd is empty though |
| 11:32.28 | xand | cardiel: it's on irc.oftc.net |
| 11:32.41 | cardiel | xand |
| 11:32.43 | cardiel | ok |
| 11:32.44 | cardiel | thanks |
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| 11:32.52 | itisjb | xand: what does it actually do? |
| 11:33.15 | jelly-home | itisjb: please don't be a douche |
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| 11:33.36 | jelly-home | there are better ways to waste time |
| 11:33.42 | itisjb | someone on the Debian forum told me to do it, what does it do I don't want it to do anything bad? |
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| 11:35.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | itisjb, deletes whatever files it can delete on the filesystem |
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| 11:36.26 | itisjb | CutMeOwnThroat: okay, finally, thank you |
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| 11:37.19 | babilen | It doesn't, but lets move on. itisjb, please refrain from pasting potentially dangerous commands into the channel. It is okay to provide references to whatever forum you read this on, but we never know who will try commands locally. |
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| 11:37.48 | itisjb | babilen: if it doesn't,what does it do? |
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| 11:38.15 | itisjb | sureley it cannot delete everything because the commands will be deleted too? |
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| 11:38.49 | babilen | itisjb: It does nothing, but lets move on. |
| 11:38.59 | itisjb | nothing? |
| 11:39.04 | itisjb | so how is it dangerous? |
| 11:39.12 | babilen | "potentially dangerous" |
| 11:39.15 | babilen | And enough. |
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| 11:39.24 | itisjb | so I should try it then xD? |
| 11:39.29 | babilen | no |
| 11:39.39 | itisjb | but it "does nothing" |
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| 11:39.53 | jelly-home | thanks |
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| 11:40.22 | jelly-home | this channel needs better trolls, that one was rather boring |
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| 11:41.28 | jsonlee_ | is there any place where i can check when a new feature will be supported in debian? |
| 11:41.54 | babilen | jsonlee_: I don't quite understand how you think how that would work. How can we know which new features we will support in 10 years? |
| 11:42.00 | jsonlee_ | for example, current debian testing supports 1.7.10, but the feature i am looking for (git subtree) is only supported only at 1.7.11 |
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| 11:42.39 | jsonlee_ | babilen: i am looking a feature that is already in official release but not yet in debian. |
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| 11:42.51 | babilen | jsonlee_: Are you actually asking when git 1.7.11 (or newer) will be in testing? |
| 11:42.51 | jsonlee_ | sorry doesn't explain my question very well. |
| 11:42.59 | jsonlee_ | yes |
| 11:43.07 | babilen | judd: v git |
| 11:43.08 | judd | Package: git on i386 -- squeeze: 1:1.7.2.5-3; squeeze-backports: 1:1.7.10-1~bpo60+1; squeeze-backports: 1:1.7.10.4-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:1.7.10.4-1+wheezy1; sid: 1:1.7.10.4-2; experimental: 1:1.8.2.1-1 |
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| 11:43.12 | jsonlee_ | apology for my bad english. : ( |
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| 11:44.07 | jsonlee_ | judd: thanks |
| 11:44.36 | babilen | jsonlee_: As you can see ^^^ 1.8.2 is in experimental -- You could pull it from there or (better!) backport that version to wheezy. Follow "/msg dpkg ssb" for that, but add deb-src lines for experimental and wheezy-backports in lieu of squeeze-backports. |
| 11:44.47 | babilen | jsonlee_: judd is a bot :) |
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| 11:46.11 | jsonlee_ | babilen: argh~ thank you for the explain : ) |
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| 11:48.46 | _bart | I installed minun, now how long do I have to wait until the first graphs show up? Right now there is not index.html so I get a 403 |
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| 11:55.32 | _bart | I see CONNECT TCP Peer: "127.0.0.1:55105" Local: "127.0.0.1:4949" in my munin-node.log |
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| 11:55.41 | _bart | But still no html to watch |
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| 11:56.33 | boudiccas | i'm comfiguring claws-mail from git, and its failing at 'checking for GTK... no configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.16) were not met: No package 'gtk+-2.0' found' how do i get round it please? what libs do i need to install? |
| 11:56.37 | Daniel15 | _bart: The HTML should be there right away, the graphs take one or two runs to appear |
| 11:56.46 | Daniel15 | _bart: What web server are you using (Apache, nginx, Cherokee)? |
| 11:57.14 | _bart | Daniel15: nginx, and configured it to point to /var/cache/munin/www, which is the htmldir of munin |
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| 11:57.53 | _bart | Daniel15: but that htmldir does not contain an index.html or something like that |
| 11:57.59 | kaste | HOw do you configure your /etc/network/interfaces to not do dhcp on an interface? Is it sufficient to just delete the line? |
| 11:58.23 | _bart | Daniel15: Only definitions.html, favicon, logos and style.css. |
| 11:58.34 | _bart | Daniel15: So Nginx returns 403 forbidden, which makes sense |
| 11:58.37 | jacklk | . |
| 11:59.12 | Daniel15 | _bart: Hmm, odd. Mine is the same directory, and has an index.html |
| 11:59.22 | _bart | Daniel15: ah wait, if I request the style.css or the favicon I also get a 403 forbidden from nginx |
| 11:59.23 | Daniel15 | Anything in /var/log/munin/munin-html.log? |
| 11:59.48 | _bart | Daniel15: [FATAL] There is nothing to do here, since there are no nodes with any plugins. Please refer to http://munin-monitoring.org/wiki/FAQ_no_graphs at /usr/share/munin/munin-html line 38 |
| 11:59.49 | Daniel15 | _bart: Might be permissions issues on the directory then. |
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| 12:00.20 | _bart | Daniel15: hmm I think I'm missing something then |
| 12:00.20 | Daniel15 | Sounds like munin-node is misconfigured and no plugins are enabled. |
| 12:03.28 | _bart | Daniel15: Hmm sudo /usr/sbin/munin-node-configure shows some are used |
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| 12:05.55 | stack | hello, is that possible to know what packages are installed from a certain source? |
| 12:07.13 | _bart | Daniel15: 2013/04/13 14:05:10 [INFO] munin-html finished (0.43 sec) |
| 12:07.14 | _bart | :D |
| 12:07.28 | _bart | Daniel15: But still 403 forbidden with nginx.. |
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| 12:07.42 | Daniel15 | _bart: How did you fix it? Also check your Nginx log - maybe the Nginx user doesn't have permission to access the directory. |
| 12:08.45 | _bart | Daniel15: I had to set host_name in munin node conf, like I set it in munin main conf. |
| 12:08.55 | _bart | Daniel15: yes this seems to be nginx related, files are now definitely there |
| 12:09.05 | jacklk | How do moomins have sex without a hole? |
| 12:09.27 | _bart | Good question |
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| 12:09.38 | _bart | They do have holes, their ears |
| 12:09.53 | jacklk | but moomins don't have dicks either |
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| 12:10.09 | jacklk | and it wouldn't fit down the ear |
| 12:10.12 | _bart | they can stick their pointy ears into other moomins ears |
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| 12:10.20 | _bart | if that results in satisfaction |
| 12:10.25 | jacklk | ahh |
| 12:10.27 | _bart | ear-sex |
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| 12:10.35 | jacklk | they they because pregnant? |
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| 12:11.02 | _bart | ? |
| 12:11.15 | jacklk | would that result in pregnancy? |
| 12:11.19 | jacklk | moomins need babys |
| 12:11.23 | _bart | Nope |
| 12:11.25 | _bart | Ah that is true |
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| 12:11.32 | _bart | But do they die in the first place? |
| 12:11.36 | jelly-home | jacklk, be nice |
| 12:11.38 | jacklk | no? |
| 12:11.40 | jpw | take it to #debian-offtopic |
| 12:11.52 | jacklk | jelly-home: what? I am |
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| 12:12.17 | _bart | This is definitely off topic, I'm in |
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| 12:12.46 | _bart | Daniel15: I'm always looking for ages for those log files, never remember where they are stored |
| 12:13.13 | Daniel15 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:13.39 | Daniel15 | Default config uses access.log and error.log I think |
| 12:13.52 | Daniel15 | I modified mine to use access.[hostname].log and error.[hostname].log |
| 12:14.04 | Daniel15 | So each site has its own log file |
| 12:14.58 | _bart | Daniel15: open() "/etc/nginx/htpasswd" failed (2: No such file or directory) |
| 12:15.03 | _bart | Daniel15: Ah that's a clear error, I like |
| 12:15.24 | _bart | I named it .htpasswd.. |
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| 12:18.20 | _bart | Yes, it's live :D |
| 12:19.17 | _bart | it's pretty |
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| 12:26.27 | dawolf | hi there |
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| 12:29.00 | dawolf | i am running into troubles on my (rather late) lenny->squeeze upgrade. new kernel won't boot and hangs at "loading initial ramdisk". i am able to boot by selecting the old kernel in the grub menu. any ideas where to start troubleshooting? |
| 12:29.17 | Daniel15 | _bart: There's some nice Nginx plugins for Munin that might be useful for you, if you haven't seen them already :) https://github.com/munin-monitoring/contrib/blob/master/plugins/nginx/nginx-combined |
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| 12:29.59 | babilen | dawolf: At which point in the upgrade does that happen? (as in: Which chapter/section in the release notes) |
| 12:31.13 | _bart | Daniel15: Cool, but I'm still learning on how to install those plugins... |
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| 12:32.36 | Daniel15 | _bart: Plugins go into /etc/munin/plugins/. Just download any custom plugins into that directory |
| 12:32.51 | Daniel15 | Munin should automatically pick up the plugin next time it runs |
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| 12:33.15 | dawolf | babilen: it's the reboot after dist-upgrade |
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| 12:33.29 | jmd | Something keeps messing with my /etc/hosts file. How can I find out what is doing it? |
| 12:33.41 | babilen | dawolf: So the first reboot just after installing the new kernel and udev worked? |
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| 12:34.48 | babilen | dawolf: I am referring to http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#upgrading-udev -- Are you at that step? |
| 12:35.07 | melmothXxX | hello all. Today I installed debian amd64 on a new Lenovo machine. It installed an efi bootloader, but the system doesn't boot at all. Now I have installed another OS, just to try, and it does boot, but with regular partition and no efi. So, the question is: how can I disable the efi thing? |
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| 12:35.33 | babilen | I mean: Are you past that step -- That is you have completed 4.4.6. Upgrading the system now and the /second/ reboot into the new kernel failed? |
| 12:35.48 | dawolf | babilen: i inadvertently skipped that first reboot ... so i did kernel/udev/dist-upgrade/reboot |
| 12:36.06 | dawolf | bad wolf |
| 12:36.28 | babilen | bad wolf indeed |
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| 12:37.21 | babilen | There are very few things to actually follow (if you think that all the other stuff in the release notes is just unnecessary precaution), but that is one of the steps you should perform. |
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| 12:38.29 | dawolf | so what steps would i take if the new kernel does not boot then? or are these completely different from the situation i got myself into? |
| 12:39.50 | babilen | dawolf: Problem is that I am about to leave for lunch and I am not sure which problems your freestyle dist-upgrade caused -- What exactly happens if you try to boot the 3.2 kernel? |
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| 12:40.23 | Drakeson` | If I make chroot on a "usb stick", populate it with debootstrap, install a base system and a kernel in the chroot, what else I would need to turn it into a proper bootable device? |
| 12:40.28 | dawolf | old kernel 2.6.26-2-amd64 boots normal |
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| 12:40.45 | dawolf | new kernel 2.6.32-5-amd64 hangs on ramdisk |
| 12:41.06 | dawolf | dpkg-reconfigure udev/kernel did not remedy that |
| 12:42.05 | dawolf | babilen: thanks for your help, have a good lunch :) i'll be around a bit |
| 12:42.52 | babilen | dawolf: You might want to try rebuilding the initramfs -- Run "update-initramfs -u", but then in the end you might want to restore from backups and follow the release notes this time. |
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| 12:43.45 | babilen | (or install wheezy from scratch, but following <install wheezy> and <wheezy installation guide> -- You could use <firmware images wheezy> for the installation (/msg dpkg install wheezy)) |
| 12:44.17 | dawolf | babilen: ok thanks |
| 12:44.44 | babilen | dawolf: argh, off by one release. |
| 12:45.25 | dawolf | that would be squeeze then |
| 12:45.49 | babilen | I am, naturally, referring to kernel 2.6.32 (and not 3.2) and squeeze and not wheezy. The fact that we are /very very/ close to releasing wheezy underlines the necessity for an upgrade all the more. An installation from scratch might actually turn out to be less work than a restore/fix/upgrade of your current lenny box. |
| 12:46.34 | dawolf | got it |
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| 12:47.27 | babilen | dawolf: Ok, i'll be back in some time and we can debug this further if you want to (or somebody else in here or over on irc.debian.org/irc.oftc.net can help you in the meanwhile) |
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| 12:48.31 | dawolf | babilen: much appreciated |
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| 12:49.21 | babilen | dawolf: btw, IIRC the dist-upgrade runs into problems if you don't run with the new udev/kernel in place, so checking if you actually upgraded everything you have to upgrade is also an option. You could simply pretend you haven't done that and run "apt-get install linux-image-2.6-flavour" and "apt-get install udev" again. |
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| 12:49.33 | babilen | (before the reboot) |
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| 12:50.15 | dawolf | i tried that, will try again :) |
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| 12:58.48 | houser | I have a very poor wifi connection on my one computer, and only a single laptop running ubuntu has a decent reception, so i want to capture wifi on this laptop and forward it to another computer (while still beeing available for use on this laptop). Is that possible on debian? |
| 12:59.51 | CissWit | you want to forward wifi ? you'd need an other card i guess |
| 13:00.23 | houser | CissWit, but i want to forward from wifi to ethernet |
| 13:00.26 | houser | cable |
| 13:00.32 | CissWit | then you can yes |
| 13:00.33 | houser | wifi->ethernetcable |
| 13:01.15 | CissWit | you need to use your laptop as a router, you can check there's a lot of tutoriel out there on how to use linux as a router |
| 13:02.34 | CissWit | you basicaly just need to set up a network between yourlaptop and the other computer, authorize ip_forward, and set your laptop as the default gateway on the other computer |
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| 13:12.37 | _bart | Daniel15: https://raw.github.com/munin-monitoring/contrib/master/plugins/nginx/nginx-combined I get Use of uninitialized value $a2 in concatenation (.) or string at at line 157 |
| 13:13.12 | Daniel15 | _bart: You need to rename it to nginx_combined_hostname (I just used nginx_combined_127.0.0.1 for mine) |
| 13:13.54 | Daniel15 | And need to enable the Nginx status page at /nginx_status - http://wiki.nginx.org/HttpStubStatusModule |
| 13:14.03 | _bart | Daniel15: ah that's it, thanks |
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| 13:25.06 | seekanet | so i goto http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-amd64/current/images/ and i dont know what im looking at. my purpose was to dowmload for USB installation over the network. |
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| 13:27.50 | dvs | seekanet: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/ |
| 13:28.24 | babilen | seekanet: I would generally recommend to install wheezy at this time -- What will you use that system for? |
| 13:28.41 | seekanet | To get out of windows hell |
| 13:28.58 | seekanet | Or better, to learn other things |
| 13:28.59 | babilen | seekanet: So it is for your personal use and not an important system? |
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| 13:29.30 | seekanet | babilen, my system is important to me. Any thing I spent 700+ bucks on is hehe. But yes personaluse. |
| 13:30.23 | babilen | seekanet: Well, I know what you mean, but I meant important as in "will run a mailserver for $company" or something like that |
| 13:30.53 | seekanet | Oh sorry. No, just me. |
| 13:31.16 | babilen | seekanet: Ok, in that case I would definitely recommend to install wheezy. Most Debian images are hybrid images that can be written directly to a USB stick if you want to install from there. Are you connected to the internet during the installation? Do you know which desktop environment (if any) you want to use after the installation? |
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| 13:31.45 | babilen | seekanet: No need to apologise, I just wanted to understand your needs and requirements a bit better. :-D |
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| 13:33.29 | seekanet | babilen I am connected to the internet via ethernet, I don't know the desktop enivornment. |
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| 13:37.12 | babilen | seekanet: Do you have a preference or do you even know what I am talking about? By default Debian wheezy comes with Gnome3 these days (http://www.gnome.org), but you could also install XFCE (http://www.xfce.org), LXDE (http://www.lxde.org) or KDE (http://www.kde.org) -- All are fine and Gnome3 and XFCE would be my personal preference, but then it depends on your wishes. |
| 13:37.19 | babilen | dpkg: tell seekanet -about install wheezy |
| 13:37.25 | babilen | dpkg: tell seekanet -about firmware images wheezy |
| 13:38.21 | seekanet | I know what you're talking about babilen, I just have no familiarity with any of them. I guess I'll take a look at the screen shots and go from there? |
| 13:38.34 | babilen | seekanet: I would recommend to use the netinst images with firmware to install the system. These images will download all packages you need in addition to the base system directly from the internet during the installation. You should take a look at the <installation guide wheezy> as well as it explains the entire installation procedure quite well. |
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| 13:39.22 | babilen | seekanet: You can /always/ install additional ones later and switch freely between them. If you don't know any of them you are fine with either Gnome3 or XFCE4 I guess (at least those would be my recommendation) |
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| 13:39.52 | eptalon | heyas |
| 13:40.26 | babilen | dpkg: tell seekanet about usb install wheezy |
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| 13:41.02 | seekanet | babilen, ty. Are there any sites that have the binary package containers or will I need to install from command line? For software I mean. |
| 13:41.48 | eptalon | I have a perhaps very basic question: If the harddrives I have have a specified/measured transfer speed of 120MB/sec, why do I see a raid5 rebuild happen at a staggering speed of 20MB/sec? |
| 13:42.11 | eptalon | (Debian SID, updated like a few days ago) |
| 13:42.35 | babilen | seekanet: So, download the wheezy rc1 firmware image and copy it to a USB stick -- You can then boot from it to install Debian. You don't download packages manually from the internet but you use packaging tools to install software from the official repositories. |
| 13:43.26 | babilen | seekanet: The whole package management procedure is detailed (among other things) in the wonderful book on Debian system administration and in particular on http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/apt.html |
| 13:43.36 | eptalon | You have a minimal image you boot from, and then install the packages you need. |
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| 13:44.01 | seekanet | This should helpme alot babilen,that link, thank you. :) |
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| 13:44.23 | babilen | seekanet: I would recommend to read that book -- There are also graphical package management tools such as synaptic that you might prefer over command line tools in the beginning, but I am not too familiar with them. (I just use the standard command lines tool such as apt-get, ..) |
| 13:44.35 | babilen | dpkg: tell seekanet about introduction |
| 13:45.10 | eptalon | "graphical" as in uses a gui in a graphical environment, perhaps wit a search window |
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| 13:45.28 | babilen | seekanet: The factoid out bot (dpkg) just sent you contains pointers to additional documentation you might want to read (general cli tutorial being among those that you might want to read too) |
| 13:45.33 | babilen | *our bot |
| 13:45.34 | eptalon | as opposed to "give a list of packages you want to a command-line tol"! |
| 13:45.53 | Dark_light | how stable is unstable? I know it sounds like a tricky question , I mean compared to something like arch |
| 13:46.20 | babilen | seekanet: In general: You should never install anything manually by downloading it from some website anymore and if you find that you want to, you should come here and discuss alternatives. You should also not mix Debian with other distributions or install random .deb packages. |
| 13:46.27 | eptalon | Dark_light: I am using it with no major hassle. |
| 13:46.43 | Dark_light | eptalon: how long have you been using it? |
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| 13:46.54 | babilen | Dark_light: "stable" in Debian means "not changing" and has very little to do with "usable" or "bug free" :) |
| 13:46.57 | eptalon | Dark_light: A few years? |
| 13:47.22 | Dark_light | eptalon: good :-) |
| 13:47.29 | eptalon | Dark_light: "unstable" is simply "versions between releases of stable": |
| 13:48.07 | eptalon | Dark_light: "Experimental" is the thing you should avoid, as there is the possibility of one package making others unusable. |
| 13:48.14 | babilen | Dark_light: That being said, and assuming you ask about "stable" in the "usable" sense: I've been using sid for some years now and it is quite usable. There are some horrible bugs that may cost you a day of work every couple of months/years, but in general it is quite alright. It also really depends on how you run the system. You might want to read http://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable |
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| 13:49.17 | eptalon | Dark_light: I update about once a week, and use sid/experimental. I think there were like 2-3 "hiccups" in the last 6 months. |
| 13:49.21 | seekanet | babilen, That is what I thought about not installing random deb's from the internet, but say a certain software comes prepackaged in Debian and it's version is 0.5, but the newest one is 3.0 (Just an example). Would it be ok to download and install it manually or is there a different way? |
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| 13:49.49 | eptalon | seekanet: the problem you have is with dependencies, usually. |
| 13:49.57 | babilen | Dark_light: It also very much depends on the release cycle. Right now it is very boring as testing is frozen and new uploads target experimental and not unstable and most developers focus on finalising the release. Then there are exciting times (e.g. directly after the release or during major <transitions>) in which you have to be careful, follow mailing lists and watch out for bugs. |
| 13:50.02 | Dark_light | I can live with an annoying bug for a while my main concern is avoiding complete breakages as not being able to boot or startx anymore (not that I'm not comfortable on tty) |
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| 13:50.47 | eptalon | Dark_light: that hasn't happend to me in the last 2 years. |
| 13:51.26 | eptalon | Dark_light: note also that usually kernel packages don't change. as to other software. |
| 13:51.41 | babilen | seekanet: In that case there are also various different ways to deal with that situation. It might, for example, be that the version you want has been packaged for Debian, but is not available for the version of Debian you run. You can then backport that version. If the version has not yet packaged you can try to update the package yourself and use that ... If all that fails you can still compile the software locally to /usr/local and manage that ... |
| 13:51.47 | babilen | ... with stow. |
| 13:52.22 | Dark_light | optraz: good, one last question where can I check sid's package versions ? |
| 13:52.36 | eptalon | Dark_light: ask the bot? |
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| 13:53.09 | Dark_light | herrrm how? :P |
| 13:53.17 | eptalon | or use http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
| 13:53.25 | babilen | seekanet: In each of these scenarios you /never/ install random binary packages from the internet. The /only/ situation in which that might be necessary is when you want to install proprietary, non-free software that you cannot compile yourself such as skype. But then, we document the procedure for that on our wiki (e.g. http://wiki.debian.org/skype) -- Just keep in mind: as soon as you don't install something from the repositories there is most ... |
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| 13:53.31 | babilen | ... likely a better way. |
| 13:54.05 | babilen | seekanet: A lot of people break their system beyond repair (or at least what they are able to repair) simply by thinking "Oh, I really want WHATEVER, I just install this" ... |
| 13:54.13 | Dark_light | eptalon: thanks! |
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| 13:54.58 | eptalon | Dark_light: another question you must ask yourself? - is it really worth upgrading Firefox (called Iceweasel in debian) from version 10 to 20? |
| 13:55.03 | babilen | Dark_light: those bugs /might/ and /will/ happen once every now and then. But in each case they are typically reported very fast so that you are warned about them if you run apt-listbugs and on the other hand they are really not that common. |
| 13:55.06 | seekanet | Ok thanks babilen, eptalon. babilen, i'll be back when its done installing. I definantly don't want to break anything ha! |
| 13:55.49 | babilen | seekanet: There are many things you can do ... Just don't trust random blogs on the internet and never follow one you don't understand or one that is older than, say, two years. |
| 13:55.54 | Dark_light | babilen: I'll look into apt-listbugs |
| 13:56.21 | Dark_light | eptalon: I've used it on slackware it seemed to be working fine what issues have you found? |
| 13:56.25 | eptalon | Dark_light: In short: unstable is safe, and has perhaps 2-3 hiccups a year. |
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| 13:56.54 | eptalon | Dark_light: As I say, I use the equivalent of version 12... |
| 13:56.56 | babilen | Dark_light: All that being said: testing/unstable is normally supported in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net and you'll find quite a number of interested debian developers in that channel too. Simply by idling/reading it you will realise what the current situation is and how to deal with it. |
| 13:57.09 | babilen | Dark_light: We are an active bunch and more than willing to help. |
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| 13:57.41 | Dark_light | I'll check it out! |
| 13:58.36 | babilen | Dark_light: All that being said: My personal experience (both as a user as well as a Debian Maintainer) is that Debian and people involved in the project pay a lot of attention to doing things the right way and to package high quality packages. Mistakes always happen, and sometimes you simply have to break some packages in order to upgrade to a new library or so. |
| 13:58.43 | babilen | dpkg: tell Dark_light about transitions |
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| 14:00.45 | Dark_light | babilen: since you're a maintainer I'm going to ask you this too if you know, when mesa will be updated to 9.0 will it support opengl 3.0 for sandybridge? it'd need to be compiled with --enable-texture-float. |
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| 14:03.31 | babilen | Dark_light: Is that flag new in mesa 9.0 or already in 8.0 ? |
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| 14:03.42 | tekzilla | can i force dpkg to finish installation of a package that has an error in the post-inst scripts ? |
| 14:04.30 | babilen | Dark_light: 9.0 has not yet been packaged, so I cannot answer that question. In the unlikely case that you have to recompile a package you /can/ do that by following "/msg dpkg package recompile" though (filing a bug might also be an option to have this fixed soon) |
| 14:05.14 | Dark_light | babilen: to be honest I don't know for sure but I think it's new in mesa 9.0 since I've asked on dri-devel and I've been told that in order to enable opengl 3.0 on sandy bridge I need that flag and opengl 3.0 is supported only on mesa 9.x, also they said that they tried to enable it by default but many distros tend to patch the source not to include it |
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| 14:05.46 | babilen | tekzilla: You can short-circuit the postinst, but that is typically a very bad idea. Package installation shouldn't fail and if it does it is indicative of underlying problems. Please provide details (e.g. output, package versions, info about your system (debian version, sources.list, ...)) about the actual problem on http://paste.debian.net |
| 14:06.03 | jephb | hi, i have downloaded debian-live-6.0.7-amd64-kde-desktop.img but i have no idea bout how to extract it to make bootable from the usb. any help? |
| 14:07.31 | babilen | Dark_light: It is too early to answer that. I wouldn't worry about it too much now, if it turns out that you /have/ to do manual work then that is certainly possible and I would file a bug about that (if reasonable). I should note that I am not involved in packaging X (ask in #debian-x on irc.oftc.net), but right now 9.0 has not been packaged and I can tell you that the developers focus mainly on wheezy now so that we can release it soon. |
| 14:07.43 | tekzilla | babilen: yeah i know i shouldnt just force installation in case of an error, in this case it seems ok though. its an update for ifupdown, this is what its doing in post-inst: Migrating network state directory from /run/network/ to /run/network... |
| 14:07.55 | tekzilla | because /etc/network/run is already a symlink to /run/network |
| 14:08.00 | babilen | jephb: You just write it directly to the USB stick. Is your plan to use it as a live CD or do you actually want to install Debian? |
| 14:08.05 | tekzilla | seems like a bug in the package doesnt it ? |
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| 14:08.43 | babilen | tekzilla: The /run migration has been done quite some time ago and you shouldn't encounter this at this point in the release cycle. What are you doing? |
| 14:09.27 | jephb | <babilen> i was just thinking that i should try it first then install it later : |
| 14:09.27 | tekzilla | babilen: just a dist-upgrade.. possibly missed this error in a previous run though |
| 14:09.51 | jephb | <babilen> i was just thinking that i should try it first then install it later |
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| 14:10.17 | babilen | tekzilla: Let me take a look at that script ... one second please. |
| 14:11.06 | tekzilla | babilen: thanks very much! this is wheezy 64 btw |
| 14:11.18 | babilen | jephb: Well, I wouldn't recommend to install squeeze at this point as we are /very/ close to releasing wheezy which is the currently frozen testing branch of Debian. So trying that would simply show you how Debian looked two years ago ... Either way, you write those images directly to the USB stick. |
| 14:11.25 | babilen | dpkg: tell jephb -about install wheezy |
| 14:11.33 | babilen | dpkg: tell jephb -about firmware images wheezy |
| 14:11.37 | babilen | dpkg: tell jephb -about install kde |
| 14:12.10 | babilen | tekzilla: May I see the exact output? |
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| 14:12.27 | br87 | hi |
| 14:12.58 | br87 | what is needed to allow ssh connections on a debian server? fresh install, sshd was added at installation.. can't login .. (access denied) |
| 14:13.50 | jpw | br87 it should work out of the box. |
| 14:14.01 | jpw | after installing openssh-server |
| 14:14.20 | tekzilla | babilen: http://pastebin.ca/2358196 |
| 14:14.32 | babilen | br87: Could you run "ssh -vvv REMOTEBOX" and show us the output? Are you sure that your password/key is working or that the user exists that you try to login as? |
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| 14:15.26 | babilen | tekzilla: Thanks, what does "ls -l /etc/network/run" give you? |
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| 14:16.24 | tekzilla | babilen: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Feb 14 23:16 /etc/network/run -> /run/network/ |
| 14:16.31 | br87 | babilen yes |
| 14:16.37 | tekzilla | so yeah, the symlink is already there.. |
| 14:16.38 | br87 | let me check |
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| 14:17.49 | br87 | ipmi is so slow ;/ |
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| 14:18.36 | jephb | <babilen> do you recommend me to wait the release of Wheezy and install it? |
| 14:19.01 | babilen | jephb: No, you can install it right now. |
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| 14:19.11 | br87 | Guys! |
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| 14:19.26 | br87 | found the issue ... can't believe that was the proble |
| 14:19.29 | br87 | problem* |
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| 14:19.47 | jpw | incorrect privileges on private key? |
| 14:20.06 | babilen | tekzilla: Ok, could you edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/ifupdown.postinst and add "set -x" after the "set -e" in the second line and then run "dpkg --configure -a" and paste the output to http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 14:20.22 | tekzilla | babilen: alright |
| 14:22.01 | jephb | actually it is my first time to use debian, i used ubuntu, now i wanted to shift to debian , i was just looking for help about how to donwload .iso file and make it bootable on the usb Because when i tried to downlaod it in morning, i got debian-live-6.0.7-amd64-kde-desktop.img and i have no idea about how to extract it on the usb |
| 14:22.08 | br87 | babilen jpw I was using the IPMI IP to login.. didn't realize that until now! changed the IP, and it's working fine.. out of the box |
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| 14:22.54 | babilen | tekzilla: Also include the output of "ls -l /etc/network/run/ifstate" please |
| 14:24.30 | tekzilla | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/249299/ |
| 14:24.32 | Dark_light | babilen: what about systemd? I mean is debian planning to make it a default or to avoid it |
| 14:24.33 | jephb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:25.17 | tekzilla | weird, the script even checks if its a symlink, right ? |
| 14:25.34 | babilen | Dark_light: it is packaged and the discussion about a default init system is a /complicated/ one. In particular because Debian supports architectures that are not working with systemd |
| 14:25.56 | babilen | dpkg: tell jephb -about usb install wheezy |
| 14:25.57 | becker_11 | jephb, I went to google and typed "write debian iso to usb" |
| 14:26.08 | becker_11 | the first result is from the debian instal manual |
| 14:26.19 | Dark_light | babilen: because a key factor for me would be avoiding it, I tried and found it to be flawed for my tasks |
| 14:26.33 | becker_11 | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en |
| 14:27.18 | babilen | jephb: You just write it /directly/ to the usb stick. The method depends on your operating system, but if you use Debian or another Linux you can just run "cp debian.iso /dev/sdX ; sync" with /dev/sdX being the path of the block device of your USB stick. (something like /dev/sdb) -- run "dmesg|tail -n23" after plugging in the stick to figure out which one it is. |
| 14:28.05 | babilen | Dark_light: Ok, in that case I can assure you that you have nothing to worry about for some time to come. We will not switch to it unless we are absolutely convinced that it works well in all use-cases that are currently supported. |
| 14:28.24 | babilen | tekzilla: Sorry, got hold up (looks as if I am providing support alone today) |
| 14:28.45 | Dark_light | babilen: thanks :-) |
| 14:28.47 | MrGeneral | Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary. <- What should I do? I googled about this and tried many solutions |
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| 14:28.58 | becker_11 | babilen, I think you meant cat debian.iso > /dev/sdx not cp |
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| 14:29.44 | tekzilla | babilen: i can see you have a lot to do here, no worries! thanks for even looking at the problem |
| 14:29.47 | eptalon | dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdX? |
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| 14:30.36 | becker_11 | eptalon, I would normally use dd but the debian install guide specifically says cat |
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| 14:31.04 | babilen | tekzilla: Which version of ifupdown did you upgrade from? |
| 14:31.24 | tekzilla | babilen: i guess the script should read "[ ! -L /etc/network/run ]" because the test failks for files in the symlinked dir.. didnt know test worked that way |
| 14:31.42 | tekzilla | babilen: i dont know, the previous one i`m pretty sure because i upgrade frequently |
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| 14:33.00 | eptalon | becker_11: no idea. |
| 14:33.12 | babilen | tekzilla: Yeah, we had an update yesterday ... |
| 14:33.57 | babilen | tekzilla: Do you still have a /etc/network/ifstate? |
| 14:34.21 | tekzilla | babilen: no |
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| 14:38.27 | babilen | tekzilla: What does "readlink /etc/network/run" give you? |
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| 14:39.15 | tekzilla | babilen: /run/network |
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| 14:39.46 | babilen | tekzilla: I wonder how in line 8 you ended up "/run/network/" with a trailing "/" |
| 14:40.47 | tekzilla | babilen: oh sorry, i didnt notice that, readlink returned it with a trailing slash |
| 14:40.49 | _bart | Why do I need to run a firewall like ufw when I already have my iptables blocking ports? |
| 14:41.37 | babilen | tekzilla: hah! Okay, what was the output "ls -l /etc/network/run" again? |
| 14:41.58 | tekzilla | _bart: ufw is just an interface to iptables |
| 14:42.37 | babilen | tekzilla: And /please/ be precise ... :D (I know, you try to, but if you hadn't noticed this or if I haven't mentioned my suspicion we would have wasted a lot of time now) |
| 14:42.42 | _bart | tekzilla: ah okay cool |
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| 14:43.31 | tekzilla | babilen: thats true, i'm sorry :) lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Feb 14 23:16 /etc/network/run -> /run/network/ |
| 14:43.44 | tekzilla | so it seems i somehow made this symlink by hand (autocompletion) |
| 14:44.05 | babilen | tekzilla: Ok, there is your mistake. It should be "/etc/network/run -> /run/network" not "/etc/network/run -> /run/network/" -- The question now is: How did that happen? |
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| 14:44.25 | babilen | tekzilla: Did you perform the /run migration manually? |
| 14:44.39 | babilen | Did you have problems with that in the past? |
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| 14:45.18 | tekzilla | babilen: no just in this instance i guess, i really cant remember how that came about :/ |
| 14:45.37 | tekzilla | sorry for basically having wasted your time |
| 14:46.01 | babilen | tekzilla: Well, please fix it! (rm /etc/network/run && ln -s /run/network /etc/network/run" should do it. |
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| 14:46.42 | babilen | tekzilla: And then run "dpkg --configure -a" -- And really, don't worry. If I would assume that every mistake a user makes would be a waste of my time I shouldn't provide support in here. |
| 14:46.59 | tekzilla | babilen: yeah just did that, resolved the issue |
| 14:47.28 | babilen | tekzilla: It's cool and this behaviour is a very subtle bug that manifests due to wrong assumptions in the scripts. |
| 14:47.45 | tekzilla | babilen: alright thanks for taking the time on this channel, IRC has always been the most efficient way of sorting things out |
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| 14:47.49 | DexterF | hi |
| 14:47.56 | bitHipy | android users: are there any debian apps that can flash an android device? |
| 14:48.03 | babilen | tekzilla: You are most welcome. Have a nice day! :) |
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| 14:48.16 | tekzilla | babilen: you too :) |
| 14:48.34 | phrac | bitHipy: heimdall |
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| 14:49.22 | DexterF | say I have a debian server (i5 quad, 8gig, soon 16) as a htpc (so primary display is occupied) and i'd like to use it via network from a thin client for simple surf/email sessions. what would be the suitable software? freenx? |
| 14:49.27 | phrac | bitHipy: although its more for galaxy s devices |
| 14:49.38 | bitHipy | phrac: ty |
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| 14:50.29 | tekzilla | (now i finally understood why test didnt think it was a symlink) |
| 14:51.03 | babilen | tekzilla: Well, it just wasn't the right one :) |
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| 14:51.12 | ThoMe_ | hiho |
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| 14:51.29 | ThoMe_ | is it posible with squid built multiple authentications methods? |
| 14:51.49 | ThoMe_ | first try with ntlm and when no user found then over basic auth and popup? |
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| 14:55.32 | Will_Tampa | Morning all |
| 14:55.57 | tekzilla | babilen: well yes kindof :) i hope i will remember this! cheers |
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| 15:03.39 | tiny | Is there a unified command line interface that replaces apt-get, apt-cache, dpkg and ... ? |
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| 15:08.05 | milosn_ | tiny: there is aptitude |
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| 15:11.50 | jpw | tiny: synaptic also. |
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| 15:12.57 | Will_Tampa | I need help with a Acer 5750 Laptop & Broadcom wireless 4358 |
| 15:13.18 | jpw | !ask |
| 15:13.19 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 15:14.02 | Will_Tampa | jpw: I can not get it to connect to the net |
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| 15:14.45 | Will_Tampa | I am on my desktop here |
| 15:14.45 | tiny | milosn_, jpw yes i hear about those, never used them much ... so they can search for packages? Do they have pkgfile functionality? |
| 15:15.13 | mtn | Will_Tampa: not a good question! We need lots more than that to help |
| 15:15.37 | mtn | Will_Tampa: have you looked at the debian wiki for help with broadcom? |
| 15:15.57 | babilen | tiny: There is wajig as well ... Take a look at http://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/06/20/apt-get-aptitude-%E2%80%A6-pick-the-right-debian-package-manager-for-you/ |
| 15:16.16 | babilen | Will_Tampa: What have you tried so far? |
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| 15:17.37 | Will_Tampa | I am now connected CAT 5 with it now.... |
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| 15:18.11 | babilen | Will_Tampa: So, what have you tried so far to get your wireless working? What /exactly/ isn't working? |
| 15:19.03 | babilen | Will_Tampa: Which version of Debian do you use and could you show me the output of "lspci -nn|grep -i network" ? |
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| 15:23.18 | jhutchins_wk | DexterF: I use ltsp. |
| 15:23.42 | jhutchins_wk | DexterF: You can also just forward the X apps. |
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| 15:24.24 | DexterF | jhutchins_wk: xfwd = slow, RTT overhead |
| 15:24.37 | DexterF | will have a look at ltsp tho |
| 15:24.51 | Will_Tampa | latest 6.0.7 64 bit Squeeze....... lspci = "03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corpation Device [14e4:4358] |
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| 15:28.50 | jelly-home | ,pciid 14e4:4358 |
| 15:28.51 | judd | [14e4:4358] is 'BCM43227 802.11b/g/n' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with no known kernel module in squeeze or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=14e4:4358 |
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| 15:30.05 | jmd | There is a serious problem with network manager: It messes with /etc/hosts on startup. |
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| 15:36.41 | jiohdi | Will_Tampa, carrollwood here, what part of tampa? |
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| 15:42.52 | bhyu | How do I upgrade from woody to wheezy? |
| 15:43.38 | xand | seriously. |
| 15:43.39 | jelly-home | bhyu: woody -> sarge, then sarge -> etch, then etch -> lenny, then lenny -> squeeze, then squeeze -> wheezy |
| 15:43.47 | jelly-home | bhyu: no skipping! |
| 15:43.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, ha, I was going to do that but was slow |
| 15:43.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, also easy as pie |
| 15:43.59 | bhyu | jelly-home: Do I really have to go through all that? |
| 15:44.03 | bhyu | Any direct way? |
| 15:44.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | bhyu, reinstall |
| 15:44.16 | bhyu | I can't reinstall. |
| 15:44.20 | jelly-home | bhyu: no. You can make a fresh installation and migrate the data and the apps. |
| 15:44.31 | bhyu | I need all my files and data and have no external disk. |
| 15:44.48 | jelly-home | bhyu: acquire a disk, why the hell do you not have any backups? |
| 15:45.00 | xand | bhyu:on such an old machine you'll be lucky if your files survive long. |
| 15:45.02 | bhyu | I can't afford an external hard drive. |
| 15:45.13 | jelly-home | bhyu: borrow one for the migration |
| 15:45.14 | bhyu | xand: yeah |
| 15:45.26 | bhyu | but it has a couple gigs of RAM and a dual core, it will run wheezy fine |
| 15:45.28 | becker_11 | bhyu, search for online storage providors box.net used to give 50GB free |
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| 15:45.41 | bhyu | becker_11: Cheers! |
| 15:45.42 | xand | woody is 11 years old o.o |
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| 15:46.04 | bhyu | xand: I found this machine in the loft. |
| 15:46.15 | bhyu | must be about 15 years old :D |
| 15:46.38 | xand | you don't have another PC? o.o |
| 15:46.44 | bhyu | xand: yes I do |
| 15:46.45 | jelly-home | bhyu: find a second machine somewhere in a junkyard or a second-hand shop, scavenge disks |
| 15:46.47 | becker_11 | bhyu, google has google drive, theres dropbox etc etc |
| 15:46.54 | xand | so why can't you backup the files |
| 15:47.18 | bhyu | xand: because.. well I suppose I can but this machine only has 80GB hdd |
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| 15:47.45 | bhyu | I want to bring the life back into this huge white potato.. |
| 15:47.52 | ompaul | how was it installed in the first place |
| 15:48.02 | bhyu | ompaul: floppy |
| 15:48.14 | bhyu | I can't remember, it was years ago. |
| 15:48.36 | bhyu | I'll use online storage.. but how do I backup apps? |
| 15:49.17 | jelly-home | steps away, slowly |
| 15:50.22 | bhyu | Can I just copy over the files for the apps? Do I backup the whole / filesystem? |
| 15:51.06 | bhyu | The apps wont be able to update from the old ones as they're so old? |
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| 15:52.56 | bhyu | jelly-home: What should I do? |
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| 15:54.32 | jelly-home | bhyu: figure out which apps you use and whether they still exist on a newer distro. Acquire backup storage; copy your data over; reinstall. |
| 15:54.58 | bhyu | well, it might not have anything important anyway |
| 15:55.16 | ompaul | and that concludes the advise from the rational party |
| 15:55.18 | bhyu | I'll just backup my home folder and freshly install all the programmes. |
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| 15:56.08 | jelly-home | good luck |
| 15:56.27 | bhyu | thanks for your help.. |
| 15:56.30 | bhyu | time to start |
| 15:57.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, tell bhyu about clone debian |
| 15:57.36 | jelly-home | realize that dot files and config from 12+ years old software might not work with recent versions |
| 15:57.57 | bhyu | jelly-home: I'm not going to backup those files |
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| 15:58.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, that must be a really crappy project if they don't |
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| 15:58.32 | petn-randall | jelly-home: They don't? Mine still do, except, I think firefox once. |
| 15:58.40 | bhyu | I will just copy files manually to my newer home folder, such as documents and pictures, and reinstall programmes I need from scratch. |
| 15:58.45 | jelly-home | CutMeOwnThroat: that's all of the desktop environments and browsers. |
| 15:58.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | right |
| 15:58.59 | jelly-home | petn-randall: firefox didn't even exist at the time |
| 15:59.37 | bhyu | jelly-home: You don't use a desktop enviroment? |
| 15:59.41 | petn-randall | jelly-home: Well, that's the only config that broke that I remember in the last 12 years, and I'm not even sure about that ... |
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| 16:00.18 | jelly-home | petn-randall: you did incremental upgrades |
| 16:00.30 | jelly-home | bhyu: I do |
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| 16:00.37 | bhyu | jelly-home: Which? |
| 16:00.53 | jelly-home | bhyu: xfce and kde4 at present time |
| 16:01.10 | petn-randall | jelly-home: I think yes. But 10 years ago I was more of a newbie, so I might have up- and downgraded something, or done something else stupid. |
| 16:01.57 | jelly-home | frankly I'm unsure his .vimrc will still work ;-) |
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| 16:04.10 | bhyu | I don't use vim.. |
| 16:04.11 | bhyu | nano |
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| 16:07.59 | xand | what a noob |
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| 16:22.03 | vmiimu | hi, what should YOURMIRROR be as in deb http://YOURMIRROR.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports(-sloppy) main |
| 16:22.07 | vmiimu | I'm located in the US |
| 16:22.21 | vmiimu | should YOURMIRROR = ftp.us ? |
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| 16:26.15 | rudi_s | !mirror |
| 16:26.15 | dpkg | Debian mirror sites are listed at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list and ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt and http://deb.li/map ; ask me about <apt-spy>, <netselect-apt>, <http.debian.net>, <geo sources.list> and <debian mirror checker>. To make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ ; see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <mirror size>. #debian-mirrors on irc.oftc.net. |
| 16:26.25 | rudi_s | vmiimu: ^ |
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| 16:27.36 | vmiimu | confused since the above pasted isn't working for backports @ http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/#index2h2 |
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| 16:27.50 | vmiimu | is this more current? http://backports.debian.org/ |
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| 16:29.24 | angs | I compiled wpa_supplicant 2.0 on debian lenny http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/basicnet/wpa_supplicant.html says that I need to execute http://pastebin.com/3AhXw6LJ commands, are they correct commands to execute on debian lenny or do I need to execute them differently? |
| 16:30.04 | rudi_s | vmiimu: Yes. backports.debian.org |
| 16:31.31 | vmiimu | rudi_s i'm getting 404: http://pastebin.com/wwU62Ffd --please advise |
| 16:32.36 | rudi_s | vmiimu: What's your apt/sources.list entry for backports? |
| 16:32.45 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | no () |
| 16:32.51 | rudi_s | It should be deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main |
| 16:33.14 | rudi_s | Oh, and JWGUBNYMGBQWOI is right of course, no (). |
| 16:33.44 | vmiimu | rudi_s http://pastebin.com/W0iEde4H |
| 16:33.56 | rudi_s | vmiimu: Do what JWGUBNYMGBQWOI said. |
| 16:34.09 | rudi_s | And remove the ftp.us line. |
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| 16:35.02 | cuqa__ | hey, anyone have a clue why my debian does not go beyond "cleaning up temporary files" when rebooting? |
| 16:35.02 | vmiimu | so, remove brackets () and add/replace spaces? |
| 16:35.13 | rudi_s | vmiimu: But if you want the normal backports, just use the line I pasted above. |
| 16:35.17 | rudi_s | "It should be deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main" |
| 16:35.45 | rudi_s | Oh, wait. It looks like they updated the URL. |
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| 16:36.15 | rudi_s | vmiimu: So it should be deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main |
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| 16:37.49 | M-16 | hi |
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| 16:40.52 | vmiimu | rudi_s http://pastebin.com/EcpDVzVF |
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| 16:42.57 | vmiimu | rudi_s Is there something else I should try in sources.list? |
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| 16:43.31 | cuqa__ | when mounting the hdd from rescue I cant even do 'ls /tmp' .. will not display anything |
| 16:43.48 | cuqa__ | actually just hangs for ages. wtf could this be? |
| 16:44.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | disk going bad... do you get lots of i/o errors in dmesg? |
| 16:44.30 | rudi_s | vmiimu: Hm, weird. Report this bug. |
| 16:45.20 | angs | I compiled wpa_supplicant 2.0 on debian lenny http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/basicnet/wpa_supplicant.html says that I need to execute http://pastebin.com/3AhXw6LJ commands, are they correct commands to execute on debian lenny or do I need to execute them differently? |
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| 16:47.23 | rue_mohr | gui says "there was an error, see your system admin" /var/log/gdm/:1-greeter.log says "cannot determine session caller is in" |
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| 16:50.13 | rue_mohr | you need to put a slash infont of it |
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| 16:50.36 | rue_mohr | like that |
| 16:50.48 | boudiccas | angs: you're out of support now, you'd do best upgrading to squeeze |
| 16:51.38 | angs | boudiccas, my device's processor does not support squeeze. would you have guess how I should execute the commands? |
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| 16:52.16 | boudiccas | anfsno idea, i avoid pastebin |
| 16:52.27 | boudiccas | angs: no idea, i avoid pastebin |
| 16:52.30 | petn-randall | angs: 386? What processor are you on? |
| 16:54.09 | angs | petn-randall: it is Cavium Networks CNS2132 |
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| 16:58.29 | petn-randall | angs: which architecture are you using right now? |
| 16:59.31 | petn-randall | angs: dpkg --print-architecture |
| 17:00.05 | angs | petn-randall: it outputs arm |
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| 17:01.05 | petn-randall | angs: arm war replaced by armel, you should be able to upgrade to squeeze. |
| 17:01.10 | petn-randall | s/war/was/ |
| 17:01.49 | angs | petn-randall, I talked to the vendor of the board that I am using, they say that there is some issue with the instruction set of the processor that it does not support squeeze |
| 17:02.35 | angs | isn't it similar to execute commands to finish compiling wpa_supplicant on lenny and squeeze? |
| 17:02.59 | angs | I already did make wpa_supplicant V=1 |
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| 17:03.30 | angs | I am just not sure how I should proceed with it. is it correct to follow the instruction on http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/basicnet/wpa_supplicant.html |
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| 17:05.01 | ompaul | angs: have you asked in the linux from scratch channel? |
| 17:05.12 | angs | no |
| 17:05.52 | angs | I did not know that they have a room here |
| 17:06.05 | ompaul | !lfs |
| 17:06.05 | dpkg | hmm... lfs is large file support (http://web.archive.org/web/20110723152405/http://www.suse.de/~aj/linux_lfs.html), or ask me about <linux from scratch>, or Log-structured File System (NetBSD) |
| 17:06.29 | ompaul | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.36 | angs | I just googled how to compile the wpa_supplicant, then I found that webpage. otherwise I don't know much about what linux from scratch is |
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| 17:07.00 | angs | thank you ompaul, I will ask there |
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| 17:07.24 | ompaul | angs: if you are doing linux from scratch that's what you do, if you are using debian |
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| 17:07.37 | ompaul | then you should do it the debian way |
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| 17:08.07 | angs | I could not find any instruction how to compile wpa_supplicant 2.0 on debian |
| 17:08.18 | ompaul | why do you need that? |
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| 17:08.21 | angs | what I did is make wpa_supplicant V=1 |
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| 17:08.42 | angs | wpa_supplicant 2.0 support ibss option, previous versions do not support it |
| 17:09.00 | ompaul | ,v wpa_supplicant |
| 17:09.01 | judd | No package named 'wpa_supplicant' was found in i386. |
| 17:09.10 | ompaul | !wpa |
| 17:09.11 | dpkg | wpa is Wi-Fi Protected Access. A WPA supplicant for Debian systems is in the 'wpasupplicant' package. Read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz to configure (especially "Troubleshooting" for association to hidden SSIDs). Debian-Installer supports WPA as of the <wheezy beta> installers. See also <nowpa>. http://wiki.debian.org/WPA http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wpasupplicant |
| 17:09.12 | angs | wpasupplicant is the package name I guess |
| 17:09.21 | cuqa__ | whats the best way to delete a huge /tmp folder with countless files? |
| 17:09.21 | angs | apt-get install wpasupplicant |
| 17:09.28 | angs | but it is used as wpa_supplicant |
| 17:09.34 | ompaul | read that doc I guess |
| 17:09.55 | becker_11 | cuqa__, I would use rm in a terminal |
| 17:09.59 | angs | I read that wiki page before |
| 17:10.05 | angs | it does not explain how to compile the source |
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| 17:10.19 | angs | it just explains basics of wpa_s how to use it |
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| 17:13.28 | ompaul | angs: I think you may not be accurate on the ibss stuff https://mail.gnome.org/archives/networkmanager-list/2008-December/msg00086.html |
| 17:15.23 | angs | I guess it is about implementing WPA on ad-hoc mode. does not mention about compiling the wpa_supplicant |
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| 17:16.59 | seekanet | What can I "open with" my .deb files with? I have Save As, and Open with.. |
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| 17:17.58 | petemc | seekanet: gdebi |
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| 17:18.16 | seekanet | where can i find that pete? |
| 17:18.26 | petemc | apt-get install gdebi |
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| 17:19.02 | seekanet | it'salready the newest version |
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| 17:20.31 | petemc | "which gdebi" will tell you the file path |
| 17:21.03 | seekanet | thankyou. |
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| 17:24.28 | sunbeam | It is now Sat Apr 13 19:20:33 CEST 2013 |
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| 17:24.34 | sunbeam | on my system, how can I change this date to Mar 13 ? |
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| 17:29.22 | jiohdi | seekanet, you can also open a terminal as root and type dpkg -i x.deb |
| 17:29.39 | seekanet | thanks jiohdi for that too :) |
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| 17:34.01 | cirrus] | hello |
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| 17:35.06 | cirrus] | I'd like to ask about two things: 1) is that safe to install Debian with UEFI, and 2) if I will have dual boot and only one OS will support UEFI, then I have to switch to legacy mode before installing of any of them? |
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| 17:43.34 | markrw | any new rumors as to when wheezy will be released (I know: when it ready but ...) |
| 17:44.07 | oo_miguel | I can boot a different kernel withot restarting? |
| 17:45.50 | grobda24 | cirrus]: as far as I understand 1) ... Yes. As long as you apply for the hash/code whatever it is that unlocks the firmware then Debian installs as normal |
| 17:46.16 | zykotick9 | markrw: rumors are useless in this matter. when all rc bugs are closed, it's been under 50 for a little while now. Someone/Somewhere said something i found interesting, "it take 50% of the development time to fix the first 90%, then the last 50% to close the last 10%" ;) it's a joke, with some truth in there. |
| 17:46.24 | grobda24 | 2) of UEFI is unlocked then that would not apply AFAIK |
| 17:47.33 | seekanet | how weird is this: IPTABLES:command not found, but I have the newest version of iptables. |
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| 17:47.54 | grobda24 | seekanet: only accesable as root ? |
| 17:47.59 | seekanet | I am root |
| 17:48.14 | grobda24 | caps ? |
| 17:48.34 | seekanet | yes. i thought it was suppose to be this way: IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 6881 -j ACCEPT |
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| 18:00.26 | petn-randall | cirrus]: Debian works only with secure boot turned off for now. That's normally not problem. |
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| 18:01.18 | petn-randall | cirrus]: However, make sure that you install both OSes with *either* UEFI on or off. Otherwise you'll have to change it all the time in the BIOS setup. |
| 18:01.31 | petn-randall | cirrus]: What's the other OS? |
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| 18:02.34 | jmd | Is there a way I can prevent network-manager messing with /etc/hosts ? |
| 18:02.56 | petn-randall | jmd: It doesn't? |
| 18:03.02 | nkuttler | jmd: it does that? |
| 18:04.09 | jmd | It sure does. |
| 18:04.53 | jmd | On startup or shortly after is changes the entry for 127.0.0.1 |
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| 18:07.40 | petn-randall | jmd: And how do you know it's not some other startup script? |
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| 18:08.49 | jmd | I put a command to print it out at the top and bottom. |
| 18:09.12 | petn-randall | zykotick9: Actually, the last 20% take up 80% of the time, isn't that the power law? |
| 18:09.53 | jmd | (I also removed the package from my system and suddenly /etc/hosts no longer got mutated on boot) |
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| 18:10.50 | petn-randall | jmd: I see. What does it do then? |
| 18:11.10 | petn-randall | jmd: or better, paste the before/after |
| 18:11.16 | Mogget | I screwed up; I managed to delete everything in /opt. Its not so bad since it was just spotify, but now I cannot get dpkg, aptitude og apt-get to work because they want spotify resolved. Any bright ideas? |
| 18:11.50 | cirrus] | petn-randall, sorry, I've been in a shop. Windows XP, so I guess it won't be a problem |
| 18:12.08 | petn-randall | Mogget: What's the exact error message you get? None of those tools depend on anything in /opt. |
| 18:12.27 | petn-randall | cirrus]: Just make sure the BIOS compat mode is on when you install both systems. |
| 18:12.36 | jmd | It adds the hostname |
| 18:12.44 | cirrus] | petn-randall, ok. thanks for help |
| 18:12.44 | Mogget | petn-randall: spotify get installed in /opt. About 80 Megs of data. |
| 18:13.04 | cirrus] | by the way: what would happen if I would install one os with and second without compat mode? |
| 18:13.24 | petn-randall | cirrus]: They'd just stop booting. |
| 18:13.28 | jmd | Before: 127.0.0.1localhost.localdomain localhost |
| 18:13.28 | jmd | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:13.42 | petn-randall | cirrus]: On of them, until you flip the switch, at which the other stops booting. |
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| 18:13.57 | jmd | After 127.0.0.1 zwerg localhost.localdomain localhost |
| 18:14.10 | Mogget | petn-randall: http://paste.moshwire.com/?77 |
| 18:14.13 | cirrus] | petn-randall, oh. and I've heard about some laptops that may break with Ubuntu and UEFI |
| 18:14.37 | cirrus] | (but it's Ubuntu, so it rolls with other rights) |
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| 18:15.39 | petn-randall | cirrus]: That's not quite right. Certain Samsung laptops can get bricked by any OS when they write UEFI variables. It's something Samsung royally screwed up. |
| 18:16.13 | cirrus] | oh |
| 18:16.23 | petn-randall | cirrus]: It's not Ubuntu or Linux specific. Samsung just screwed up when implementing the UEFI standard. |
| 18:16.42 | zykotick9 | petn-randall: isn't the samsung mess a wheezy rc bug as well? i might be mistaken. |
| 18:16.52 | petn-randall | cirrus]: The first cases were simply on Ubuntu. |
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| 18:17.20 | petn-randall | zykotick9: Yes, because they still haven't got a fix for it out, the rest of the world has to find a way to work around it. That sucks. |
| 18:17.23 | cirrus] | oh okay, I thought so. it often turns out that Linux works with standards, but everything around doesn't |
| 18:17.44 | cirrus] | petn-randall, indeed. |
| 18:18.03 | cirrus] | okay, thanks for your answers. see you soon on Debian :) |
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| 18:18.20 | jmd | cirrus]: The great thing about standards is, that there are so many to choose from. |
| 18:18.30 | jmd | One for every system. |
| 18:18.48 | cirrus] | :P true |
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| 18:19.48 | cirrus] | standards were made to make things same on all platforms. now thanks to standards all platforms have their own unique standard |
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| 18:20.09 | cirrus] | and all platforms have to support other plaforms' standards |
| 18:20.41 | unborn | jmd, standards are something to make user home.. I think.. |
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| 18:21.44 | petn-randall | I'm pretty sure that Samsung isn't implementing their own version of the standard in this UEFI case. |
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| 18:22.26 | unborn | petemc, ist not question about standards :) |
| 18:23.34 | converge | Im installing Observium and it ask me to have snmp configured, I have no idea where to start, can someone help me ? |
| 18:23.36 | petn-randall | Unless their version is, "Hi, I'm the OS. Can you save some variables for me, so I can look them up after reboot?" The UEFI BIOS: "Sure thing, I'll just overwrite this part of memory I use for booting up with the data you provide!", then goes "Mein Leben!" and dies. |
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| 18:25.36 | petn-randall | converge: observium isn't part of Debian, it's not been packaged. You might get more help on #observium on OFTC. |
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| 18:26.36 | truexfan81 | can i just say one thing before i leave to go to work? |
| 18:26.44 | truexfan81 | debian wheezy is awesome!!! |
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| 18:32.27 | zykotick9 | Lartza: i'm not a developer, but the various git services came to my attention the other day. this wiki page has a nice comparison of some of them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open-source_software_hosting_facilities |
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| 18:37.12 | boudiccas | how do you page up in screen please? |
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| 18:39.02 | xand | ctrl-a then escape and then use the arrow keys |
| 18:39.15 | boudiccas | thanks |
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| 18:46.37 | syngress | Hello, anyone can help me with P2P? |
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| 18:47.39 | syngress | Hello, anyone can help me with P2P (Debian Wheezy) ? |
| 18:48.07 | {her|bert} | !ask |
| 18:48.07 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 18:48.45 | oskie | hello |
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| 18:50.51 | syngress | All right then, i have problem with connection. My port is open, Vuze works godd, any other p2p client have problems with connecions. |
| 18:51.59 | unborn | syngress, try transmission :) |
| 18:52.02 | unborn | best one |
| 18:52.13 | syngress | iptables configured, port forwarding was configured |
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| 18:52.28 | unborn | it does have daemon so you can run it on server too (that is the best part) |
| 18:52.37 | cirrus] | where can I find MD5 sums for debian testing netinstall images? |
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| 18:53.17 | syngress | streange is that i configure everything, and only Vuze works good |
| 18:53.42 | syngress | same situation - UBUNTU - everything works good |
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| 18:54.20 | syngress | so i guess that my distro are f***up :=/ |
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| 18:55.25 | cirrus] | ok, never mind. I can't read <facepalm> |
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| 18:56.11 | Guest44815 | I am considering installing debian again but can you tell me if it will work well on new lenovo laptops? I have an Ideapad z500 |
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| 18:57.21 | osaio | Guest44815: Stable, Testing, or Unstable? |
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| 19:04.13 | boudiccas | syngresstry using 'aria2c' from the cli |
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| 19:05.47 | kingsley | Should I be concerned that a floppy drive disappears from the output of the "mount" command (without options, to just list mounted devices) less than a second after it was mounted? |
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| 19:12.15 | screaminggnome | Hi! Anyone have any experiene with tmux? |
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| 19:12.19 | screaminggnome | *experience |
| 19:13.49 | screaminggnome | Well ok. Seeya. |
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| 19:13.59 | zykotick9 | screaminggnome: you should ask your real question. fyi there is also a #tmux channel. |
| 19:16.08 | Woet | zykotick9: he quit already. |
| 19:16.11 | Woet | [21:13:49] <screaminggnome> Well ok. Seeya. |
| 19:16.12 | Woet | [21:13:50] ← screaminggnome left the channel. ("Bye!") |
| 19:16.41 | zykotick9 | Woet: i have join/parts all disabled... oh well. |
| 19:16.50 | Woet | do you use auto complete? |
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| 19:17.04 | Woet | you would have noticed scream-tab- wouldn't find anyone |
| 19:17.07 | Woet | :p |
| 19:17.50 | zykotick9 | Woet: i didn't type screaminggnome out, so when i started TAB was still working ;) |
| 19:18.05 | Woet | you took 36+ seconds to type that? jeez! |
| 19:18.12 | Woet | improve that typing speed :) |
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| 19:28.18 | Nameless | hi there |
| 19:28.27 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | hi here |
| 19:28.53 | Nameless | does debian install cd\dvd support EFI boot? |
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| 19:30.29 | babilen | Nameless: wheezy installers do ever since rc1 |
| 19:30.35 | babilen | dpkg: tell Nameless -about install wheezy |
| 19:31.20 | histo | Nameless: wheezy installers do |
| 19:31.33 | histo | Nameless: just not 32bit efi |
| 19:31.50 | Nameless | i've downloaded 6.0.7 amd64 |
| 19:31.56 | Nameless | for mbp 3.1 |
| 19:32.33 | histo | Nameless: no you need wheezy |
| 19:32.36 | Nameless | downloading weezy now, thanks! |
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| 19:33.19 | kj4 | when is terrified titmouse going to be release? |
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| 19:34.09 | Nameless | histo: debian-wheezy-amd64, right? |
| 19:34.19 | crackerjackz | is it okay to ask questions about crunchbang here seeing as how it's a debian based distro? |
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| 19:34.49 | histo | Nameless: yeppers |
| 19:35.00 | crackerjackz | almost all of the software i try to install is not in my repos |
| 19:35.09 | crackerjackz | but its in the repos of other distros ive used |
| 19:35.11 | crackerjackz | how come? |
| 19:35.12 | histo | crackerjackz: depends on the question I guess. I'd probably ask in the crunchbang support though. |
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| 19:35.20 | crackerjackz | how do the different distros decide what goes into the repos? |
| 19:35.31 | histo | crackerjackz: like what software? |
| 19:35.32 | Nameless | thanks histo |
| 19:35.34 | crackerjackz | histo no one ever answers me there |
| 19:35.59 | crackerjackz | i've done tried to install a ton of video editors and stuff like handbrake i just want to compress some video files why is it so hard???? |
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| 19:36.11 | crackerjackz | none of them are in the repos :/ |
| 19:36.22 | crackerjackz | and the ppas for a lot of the software are out dated |
| 19:36.37 | crackerjackz | histo, well avidemux was one of em |
| 19:36.39 | histo | crackerjackz: licensing issues with the codecs you want to use is probably the issue. |
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| 19:37.43 | histo | crackerjackz: well you probably want to enable deb-multimedia |
| 19:37.46 | sharch- | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.16 | crackerjackz | histo, how do i do that? |
| 19:38.27 | histo | dpkg: tell crackerjackz about dmm |
| 19:38.29 | crackerjackz | i just want to shrink a video file |
| 19:38.30 | crackerjackz | nothing special |
| 19:38.33 | crackerjackz | .mp4 |
| 19:38.46 | histo | !dmm | crackerjackz |
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| 19:38.50 | crackerjackz | handbrake isn't in the repos either and the ppa for it is outdated |
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| 19:39.20 | histo | dpkg: tell crackerjackz about non-free |
| 19:41.07 | crackerjackz | histo, i don't really kknow what im doing it looks like... http://www.debian-multimedia.org/lurker/message/20120216.094955.df11021f.el.html |
| 19:41.41 | crackerjackz | why can't i just install a program?> why do you have to go through so much just to get a piece of software installed on your system its crazy |
| 19:42.35 | crackerjackz | isn't there a .deb somewhere? |
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| 19:45.27 | histo | crackerjackz: yeah there is debs i'm trying to show you that |
| 19:46.31 | histo | crackerjackz: you enable those repos and just apt-get install avidemux |
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| 19:49.19 | histo | crackerjackz: there are legal reasons that certain packages are not int he main repos |
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| 19:49.54 | crackerjackz | histo, i see. what legal reasons are they? if the software is open source why would it be illegal? |
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| 19:50.49 | histo | crackerjackz: mp3 is not an open format nor is DVD copyright protection to name a few |
| 19:51.01 | jyee | hello, wheezy wont recognise my wireless USB dongle in the installation |
| 19:51.05 | jyee | What should I do? |
| 19:52.20 | crackerjackz | histo, wow i didn't know that. i wish we could just be free |
| 19:52.31 | histo | jyee: smash it with a hammer.... Or install firmware for the wireless chipset |
| 19:52.32 | crackerjackz | to do what ever we want with our computers and software |
| 19:52.44 | jyee | I think it is a RTL8191. |
| 19:53.00 | crackerjackz | jyee, whats the output of lsusb |
| 19:53.10 | jyee | crackerjackz: I'm on Windows. |
| 19:53.15 | jyee | Linux isn't installed. |
| 19:53.15 | histo | crackerjackz: well you could use open source software that doesn't rely on such licenses and stop perpetuating the problem. |
| 19:53.25 | crackerjackz | jyee, what version of windows are you running? |
| 19:53.37 | jyee | I'm on a different computer.. |
| 19:53.42 | jyee | I need Debian to recognise it in the installation. |
| 19:53.49 | jyee | to download all of the packages and updates |
| 19:53.52 | crackerjackz | histo, that's what i try to do but apparently some non open source creeps up on me like what you were telling me about with mp3s just now |
| 19:54.09 | crackerjackz | jyee, what version of windows are you on? |
| 19:54.26 | jyee | Windows 7, this is a different computer |
| 19:54.37 | crackerjackz | jyee what computer are you trying to get the wireless internet working on? |
| 19:54.48 | jyee | a desktop without an OS.. |
| 19:55.15 | crackerjackz | so what you're trying to boot from linux or something and you want to use your usb dongle to get it online? |
| 19:55.22 | jyee | yes |
| 19:55.36 | jyee | I am trying to install by USB |
| 19:55.41 | crackerjackz | you said debian right? |
| 19:55.44 | jyee | yes |
| 19:55.59 | jyee | wheezy |
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| 19:56.10 | crackerjackz | well boot from linux... put your usb dongle in there.. and then run lsusb from a terminal and give us the output |
| 19:56.37 | jyee | okay, Alt + F2 in the installer? |
| 19:56.52 | crackerjackz | jyee, no idea never used debian |
| 19:56.58 | crackerjackz | not sure what their live cd / usb is like |
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| 19:57.27 | jyee | crackerjackz: Which os do you use then? |
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| 19:58.01 | crackerjackz | right now i'm experimenting with crunchbang which is a debian based distro then before that was ubuntu and before that was gentoo |
| 19:59.22 | rryoumaa | what does it do that cannot be done with debian? |
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| 20:00.00 | jyee | "ID 0bda:8172 Realtek Simiconductor Corp. RTL8191SU 802.11n WLAN Adaptor" |
| 20:00.08 | jyee | I can't pastebin, not on the same computer.. |
| 20:01.05 | crackerjackz | i wonder if that's a broadcom or atheros chipset |
| 20:01.14 | crackerjackz | the broadcom chip sets are a pain sometimes |
| 20:01.20 | jyee | doesn't say.. |
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| 20:02.23 | jyee | if only babilen were here |
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| 20:02.38 | crackerjackz | jyee, and what version of debian are you on again? |
| 20:02.39 | crackerjackz | run |
| 20:02.45 | crackerjackz | uname -a |
| 20:02.47 | crackerjackz | or |
| 20:02.49 | crackerjackz | lsb_release -a |
| 20:02.53 | jyee | wheezy |
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| 20:02.59 | jyee | but I'm not on it |
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| 20:03.15 | crackerjackz | well you need to be on it to get your wireless working? |
| 20:03.22 | crackerjackz | do you ahve an ethernet cable? |
| 20:03.25 | jyee | I'm on Marijuana right now |
| 20:03.34 | crackerjackz | im about to be |
| 20:03.41 | jyee | crackerjackz: can't use ethernet |
| 20:03.53 | jyee | too far away from hub |
| 20:04.03 | jyee | and I can't fix it withut internet |
| 20:04.15 | crackerjackz | jyee, you're going to have to relocate your machine to the hub temporarily |
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| 20:04.27 | jyee | crackerjackz: isn't there just another iso? |
| 20:04.47 | crackerjackz | jyee see if your net will workk with crunchbang iso |
| 20:04.52 | jyee | I can't move this big thing there |
| 20:04.59 | babilen | jyee: You might simply need firmware -- or use CD1/DVD1 for a complete (i.e. with desktop) installation from CD. |
| 20:05.03 | jyee | crackerjackz: I cannot download it |
| 20:05.07 | crackerjackz | maybe do a usb tether? you have an android phone? |
| 20:05.12 | jyee | nope |
| 20:05.20 | jyee | babilen: any iso I can download? |
| 20:05.23 | babilen | dpkg: tell jyee about RTL8191 |
| 20:05.28 | jyee | with firmware |
| 20:05.57 | babilen | dpkg: The iso with firmware can be downloaded from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/wheezy_di_rc1/ and the other from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 20:05.58 | dpkg | babilen: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
| 20:06.02 | babilen | argh |
| 20:06.03 | babilen | hehe |
| 20:06.06 | babilen | jyee: ^^ |
| 20:06.14 | crackerjackz | jyee, look at what babilen said to you |
| 20:06.33 | jyee | I am :P |
| 20:06.49 | jyee | okay |
| 20:06.51 | jyee | blank screen? |
| 20:07.09 | jyee | the page has no source |
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| 20:07.17 | babilen | jyee: Also ask the bot about the various realtek usb dongles -- I don't have time right now to go into detail, but you highlighted me and I thought it is urgent. To be honest, I would prefer if people wouldn't do that, so use it with caution in the future. |
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| 20:07.27 | babilen | jyee: Which page? |
| 20:07.41 | jyee | babilen: the link you gave me |
| 20:07.54 | babilen | both work fine |
| 20:08.24 | jyee | babilen: what do you mean urgent? |
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| 20:08.35 | jyee | I knew that you know the answer ;P |
| 20:09.23 | babilen | jyee: Anything that really requires my urgent attention in the channel. I am sure that you can make that judgement in the future. I'll let you know if you are wrong ... Just don't highlight me unnecessarily (i.e. for simple questions) when I am not around. |
| 20:09.30 | babilen | either way, heading off |
| 20:09.48 | jyee | wait |
| 20:10.04 | jyee | I need to show you an image babilen |
| 20:10.17 | jyee | babilen: http://s18.postimg.org/l75q4kga1/uhh.png |
| 20:10.27 | jyee | it is empty |
| 20:11.11 | babilen | jyee: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/wheezy_di_rc1/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-wheezy-DI-rc1-amd64-netinst.iso is the direct link. Have fun ... not sure what is wrong with your browser there. |
| 20:11.29 | jyee | babilen: Xfce one? |
| 20:11.52 | jyee | oh nevermind |
| 20:11.56 | jyee | doesn't exist |
| 20:12.03 | jyee | it is viewing the page correctly nwo |
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| 20:16.42 | tensorpudding | i'm still trying to diagnose this hardware problem i have |
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| 20:17.08 | tensorpudding | which seems to only affect ubuntu 12.04 and debian wheezy, and not windows 7 |
| 20:17.14 | babilen | dpkg: tell jyee -about install xfce |
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| 20:18.47 | tensorpudding | outside of the kernel, what could cause random crashes in debian? |
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| 20:18.58 | tensorpudding | the problem seemed to get worse after switching to debian |
| 20:19.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | what is "crash" |
| 20:19.36 | tensorpudding | one minute the computer is usable, the next it is frozen, requiring a power cycle |
| 20:19.46 | tensorpudding | not a panic, no logs are saved |
| 20:19.58 | tensorpudding | no cpu spiking |
| 20:20.32 | tensorpudding | it happened while using ubuntu at the rate of two time per week or so, but in debian it's about once a day or more |
| 20:20.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | ssh from outside? ping? |
| 20:20.44 | tensorpudding | does not respond to either |
| 20:20.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | sysrq key? |
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| 20:21.04 | tensorpudding | my ethernet connection is summarily disconnected |
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| 20:21.27 | tensorpudding | how do i do sysrq key again... |
| 20:21.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | dunno, if you have a 2nd machine and this isn't via wireless, I#d try netconsole |
| 20:21.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, netconsole |
| 20:21.43 | dpkg | netconsole is a Linux kernel driver which logs kernel <printk> messages over UDP. It is commonly used to capture system crash information. http://kernel.org/doc/Documentation/networking/netconsole.txt . See also <serial console>. |
| 20:22.00 | tensorpudding | i use rsyslog's remote logging via relp |
| 20:22.09 | tensorpudding | how is this different |
| 20:22.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | this is in kernel space |
| 20:22.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | similar to serial console |
| 20:23.01 | tensorpudding | it's a laptop but i have it hardwired most of the time |
| 20:23.05 | tensorpudding | so i guess this is possible |
| 20:23.18 | tensorpudding | but why should i think it'd log anything there? |
| 20:23.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | and iirc, serial console needs extra hardware |
| 20:23.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | because that's what it's made for? |
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| 20:25.14 | CanadianPirate | Hey, is there any danger in adding a sid repo if I am on a wheezy system? |
| 20:26.12 | babilen | CanadianPirate: I wouldn't recommend to do that if you are planning to stay on wheezy |
| 20:26.43 | CanadianPirate | I just need one package, can I install it and then remove the repo and be fine? |
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| 20:27.13 | babilen | CanadianPirate: You can backport stuff to wheezy from sid by following "/msg dpkg ssb" -- If you plan to keep on running testing (and you have "testing" and not "wheezy" in your sources.list) you can (and should) configure it as a "tum" system. See "/msg dpkg tum" for details. |
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| 20:27.38 | CanadianPirate | ok, thanks |
| 20:27.51 | babilen | CanadianPirate: Adjust the instructions in ssb for wheezy (i.e. use wheezy-backports (which is currently empty, but still)) |
| 20:27.57 | tensorpudding | can't find a netconsole package...did it get removed in wheezy? |
| 20:28.20 | babilen | CanadianPirate: For now I would recommend to simply compile the system against wheezy. Which package is it? |
| 20:28.23 | tensorpudding | oh, i guess it's not a package, just a driver |
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| 20:29.11 | tensorpudding | does this work on link-local connections? |
| 20:29.19 | CanadianPirate | babilen, hybserv. I am running it on a rapsberry pi. |
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| 20:30.01 | CanadianPirate | wait, I might be able to fix my issue |
| 20:32.18 | jpw | I have a package complaining that /dev/snd/seq doesn't exist. Does anyone know what package provides thist? |
| 20:32.20 | zykotick9 | CanadianPirate: are you running rasbian? if so, please see "/msg dpkg raspbian" for support details. |
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| 20:33.25 | CanadianPirate | Ah, thanks |
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| 20:36.24 | jpw | never mind i figured it out. `modprobel snd_seq' |
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| 20:37.30 | tensorpudding | gah |
| 20:37.39 | tensorpudding | why does rsyslog not work with netconsole |
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| 20:44.16 | jpw | this is really odd. I'm getting heavy clipping on some sound events but not others... |
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| 20:50.15 | jpw | rebooted and sound is crackling still any suggestions? |
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| 20:51.29 | manchot | in vim, how to retain the first word and delete everything to the end of the line? |
| 20:51.42 | kingsley | jpw: When did it start clipping? |
| 20:51.54 | manchot | for example, this line: |
| 20:51.57 | manchot | maverick rebel; nonconformist (in a group) |
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| 20:52.41 | jhutchins_wk | jpw: What hardware? Which release? |
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| 20:53.03 | useless-eater | manchot: I use d$ a lot, if thats what you mean |
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| 20:53.33 | manchot | useless-eater, did you see the line I pasted? |
| 20:53.39 | useless-eater | manchot: everything after the first " "? |
| 20:53.53 | kingsley | manchot: Move the cursor to the end of the first word and press capital D. |
| 20:54.01 | jpw | kingsley: its a fresh install today it's the first i've noticed of it. The software i am using is renoise(.com) tracker and alsa. the hardware is Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40) |
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| 20:55.12 | manchot | useless-eater, kingsley but there are many lines in this pattern. |
| 20:55.13 | kingsley | jpw: Did sound work before the fresh install? |
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| 20:55.34 | useless-eater | manchot: for every line Id use bash, but thats just probably I lack vim skills. |
| 20:55.59 | useless-eater | s/probably/probably because/ |
| 20:56.06 | jpw | kingsley: it did all be it on ubuntu. |
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| 20:58.02 | jhutchins_wk | manchot: Move one space past last character to retain, d$ |
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| 20:58.15 | jhutchins_wk | manchot: Use w to move ahead 1 word. |
| 20:58.37 | kingsley | manchot: In vim's command mode, you can do... :%s/\(^[^ ]*\).*$/\1/ |
| 20:58.40 | jhutchins_wk | manchot: Use . to repeat last operation (d$) |
| 20:58.48 | kingsley | manchot: and press enter |
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| 20:59.06 | kingsley | manchot: You might want to join the #vim IRC channel. |
| 20:59.19 | manchot | kingsley, I am there. thank you. |
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| 20:59.25 | jhutchins_wk | manchot: So pattern becomes wd$w.w.w.w. |
| 20:59.26 | manchot | just now there was nobody there |
| 20:59.28 | kingsley | jpw: Was "pulse" installed? |
| 20:59.33 | manchot | thanks |
| 21:00.46 | jpw | kingsley: it may have been although i think renoise communicates directly with alsa. I'll install it and report back. |
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| 21:01.13 | useless-eater | for a complete and stable desktop manager, what should I chose? (not for me btw, but I want to do as little support on it as possible) Is the wheezy gnome3 good? |
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| 21:01.32 | useless-eater | need something that do not break :) |
| 21:01.33 | unborn | useless-eater, terminal :) |
| 21:02.14 | useless-eater | unborn: I use urxvt and awesomewm :) never breaks and powerful. but this computer is for a noob |
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| 21:02.59 | unborn | useless-eater, just use standard.. gnome3 ( i dont like it too) or kde.. depends from the machine :) |
| 21:03.21 | useless-eater | unborn: and I really have no idea about desktop managers.. last time I used one for real, was some old gnome I think |
| 21:03.34 | useless-eater | kde is unstable I think |
| 21:04.02 | useless-eater | a friend at work uses it.. loves it and hates it at the same time.. hangs about one time pr day |
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| 21:05.06 | jhutchins_wk | useless-eater: xfce is reasonable. |
| 21:05.24 | jhutchins_wk | Not too unfamiliar if you set it up with a taskbar and a menu, and maybe a dock. |
| 21:05.26 | unborn | xcfe I would recommend :) |
| 21:06.12 | unborn | kde is stable |
| 21:06.14 | unborn | heh |
| 21:06.20 | useless-eater | ok. |
| 21:06.22 | unborn | as far I know.. it should be |
| 21:06.55 | useless-eater | he fills it up with all kind of fancy widgets.. probably a defective one then |
| 21:07.03 | jpw | kingsley: nope pulseaudio didn't fix the issue. it sounds like the sound buffer needs to be flushed although i'm nor sure how to do that. |
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| 21:07.42 | useless-eater | going for stock I think then.. got 4 gig with ram, but the computer is 7 years old. |
| 21:07.47 | jhutchins_wk | I think kde has gone way too far in complexity and bloat. I liked 3.5. |
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| 21:10.05 | unborn | jhutchins_wk, i use gnome here.. (gnome2) but soon or later I will have to switch.. possibly to openbox or kde.. I dont like gnome 3.. recently I was design the website for kde disrto and I find out that I may like the way how kde works (im just guessing) |
| 21:10.13 | useless-eater | awesomewm made me stop testing out things. I dont know if its a good thing or a bad thing :) |
| 21:10.37 | unborn | useless-eater, xcfe for that old machine would be perfect :) |
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| 21:12.23 | useless-eater | unborn: Hmm could be, do it have fancy plug and play stuff as gnome has? I remember setting up a locked down kiosk computer with xfce once. |
| 21:14.15 | unborn | useless-eater, i had used xfce for two years and it was just good as gnome 3 to me :) there is no fancy things on xcfe as it is build to safe computer resources.. but its just nice :) try it! |
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| 21:33.54 | bt6 | I'm trying to change my window title font through GNOME Tweak Tool but it's not changing. Can anyone help? |
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| 21:38.23 | Walex | bt6: you may have to logout and login again... But it also depends on which window manager you are using |
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| 21:43.17 | jeet | how can i figure out if my webcam will work? also, if it is v4l2 compatible |
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| 21:46.29 | tensorpudding | CutMeOwnThroat: netconsole did not catch anything |
| 21:46.30 | aidan | how can I install libmysql-dev without uninstalling the server/client? http://dpaste.com/1057460/ |
| 21:46.37 | tensorpudding | it crashed and nothing was logged |
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| 21:47.32 | Cuken | Hey all, is there an easy way to troubleshoot a Flash Drive not being recognized by Debian? |
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| 21:50.17 | Brigo | Cuken: you can try to paste error and give us the link :-) |
| 21:50.30 | Cuken | Its not really throwing an error, I'm just not seeing it mount |
| 21:50.49 | ompaul | Cuken: start with a pastebin of the following mount and fdisk -l in http://paste.debian.org |
| 21:50.52 | richieacc | Hi. I need some help please. I'm trying to compile an application from source on a debian based machine. I'm getting the error "make: opt: Command not found". In the makefile, the line is, "opt -std-compile-opts bootloader05.nopt.bc -o bootloader05.opt.bc" When I type "apt-get install opt" it tells me opt is already at the newest version. When I type "which opt" it returns nothing. What do I need to do to fix it? |
| 21:50.52 | Brigo | Cuken: You may look for errors in syslog. |
| 21:50.54 | ompaul | Cuken: start with a pastebin of the following mount and fdisk -l in http://paste.debian.net (WOOPS) |
| 21:51.43 | ompaul | richieacc: the cheats way updatedb locate opt | less |
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| 21:52.20 | ompaul | find -name / opt |
| 21:52.23 | ompaul | woops again |
| 21:52.29 | Brigo | richieacc: opt is la library, not a binary, so which cant find it. |
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| 21:52.39 | ompaul | so there you go better answers |
| 21:52.42 | richieacc | Ok, but then why does the makefile call it like a command? |
| 21:53.30 | Brigo | a moment, please :-) |
| 21:53.35 | richieacc | :) |
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| 21:54.12 | Cuken | http://paste.debian.net/249390/ |
| 21:54.16 | Cuken | For the USB issue |
| 21:54.27 | Brigo | richieacc: llvm: /usr/bin/opt |
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| 21:54.43 | Brigo | llvm is the package who owns /usr/bin/opt |
| 21:55.25 | ompaul | Cuken: this your disk? /dev/sdb1 * 1 2216 7819264 bf Solaris |
| 21:55.31 | richieacc | so if I install llvm then opt should be available? |
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| 21:55.58 | Cuken | I should have clarified, I'm trying to get Virtual Box to recognize that I have a usb drive installe |
| 21:56.00 | Cuken | installed* |
| 21:56.04 | Cuken | Do I have to mount it and then it will see it |
| 21:56.13 | aidan | Anyone understanding what aptitude is trying to do there? |
| 21:56.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | tensorpudding, hm, pity. I've seen a kernel panic in it once that would have been hard to track down without |
| 21:56.40 | tensorpudding | i was pretty sure this wasn't a panic |
| 21:56.40 | Brigo | Cuken: /dev/sdb1 * 1 2216 7819264 bf Solaris |
| 21:56.42 | ompaul | Cuken: it is a solaris partition so maybe maybe not |
| 21:56.42 | Brigo | Solaris? |
| 21:56.46 | tensorpudding | panics usually don't freeze the whole computer |
| 21:56.56 | tensorpudding | then again, most hardware ones give warning too |
| 21:57.00 | Cuken | I'm trying to install open Indiana on a virtual box within Debian |
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| 21:57.24 | Brigo | Cuken: my virtual box recognizes usb without compiling nothing .... |
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| 21:57.35 | Cuken | hm.... |
| 21:57.38 | ompaul | Cuken: see how you surprised us with lots of data after the fact what other surprises have you got for us? |
| 21:57.45 | Cuken | lol I'm sorry! |
| 21:57.48 | Brigo | richieacc: yes |
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| 21:58.01 | richieacc | 47% |
| 21:58.13 | ompaul | Cuken: so if you do zcat /proc/config.gz | fgrep -i CONFIG_SOLARIS_X86_PARTITION what does it say |
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| 21:59.00 | ompaul | Cuken: it says one of twyo things =y or =n which is it |
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| 21:59.39 | Brigo | ompaul: /proc/config.gz not found on my system :-m |
| 21:59.47 | Brigo | wheezy |
| 21:59.53 | ompaul | Brigo: it's on sid |
| 22:00.01 | ompaul | it was round in 08 |
| 22:00.10 | ompaul | *around |
| 22:00.32 | richieacc | Brigo: Thanks. I have opt now :) |
| 22:00.34 | Cuken | it didn't like that at all No such file or directory |
| 22:00.37 | ompaul | goes to check his big wjheezy |
| 22:00.44 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | Brigo: /boot/config-`uname -r` |
| 22:00.44 | richieacc | What utility gave you that information? |
| 22:00.48 | Brigo | richieacc: you are wellcome :-) |
| 22:01.17 | ompaul | Cuken: output of JWGUBNYMGBQWOI's command please |
| 22:01.19 | Brigo | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI: i have not /proc/config* |
| 22:01.31 | aidan | Why is there no libmysqlclient-dev which matches the mysql-server or mysql libraries in wheezy? |
| 22:01.44 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | yes, I said nothing about /proc/ |
| 22:01.47 | aidan | http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libmysqlclient-dev |
| 22:01.56 | Brigo | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI: ah, sorry |
| 22:02.07 | invariant | ompaul, does Debian always ship with config.gz enabled kernels? |
| 22:02.28 | Cuken | i switched to root but I'm getting permission denied |
| 22:02.38 | Brigo | invariant: as long as i know yes |
| 22:03.02 | Brigo | no as far as i konw, afaik :-) |
| 22:03.07 | Brigo | no, as far as i konw, afaik :-) |
| 22:03.20 | ompaul | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI: eh none on wheezy - I've a rather big instance of it running |
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| 22:03.59 | Cuken | I got it figured out ompaul, Thanks sir |
| 22:04.09 | ompaul | irc's from the land of sid |
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| 22:04.26 | ompaul | it's sligtly adapated |
| 22:04.41 | richieacc | YaY! It worked, thanks Brigo!! |
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| 22:05.06 | ompaul | gets a bit hissy about having thought the world is all the same |
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| 22:05.25 | Cultist | if installing debian with the cd image (not the dvd), is any disc past the first one needed? |
| 22:05.32 | Cultist | for the installation, that is |
| 22:05.49 | ompaul | Cultist: no - it is worth having a wired connection for the install |
| 22:05.59 | ompaul | Cultist: also the netinstall gives more options |
| 22:06.10 | ompaul | obviously it uses the wire to bring in more stuff |
| 22:06.12 | Brigo | Cultist: you can install with less than a cd. |
| 22:06.27 | Cultist | just bringing an old pentium 4 box to life for server usage |
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| 22:07.13 | viliny | hello! |
| 22:07.27 | viliny | im trying to set up a simple share thats located within my home folder |
| 22:07.44 | viliny | a samba share to be specific, i can't authenticate with it from my windows machine no matter what |
| 22:07.47 | viliny | any tips? |
| 22:08.00 | Cultist | did you enable the samba user? |
| 22:08.05 | viliny | debianbox\username doesn't work, just user and pass doesn't either |
| 22:08.06 | Brigo | viliny: ftp server? |
| 22:08.30 | viliny | this is how i set up the share as per tutorial: |
| 22:08.33 | Cultist | when mapping to a windows machine, it's \\serverip\sharename |
| 22:08.43 | viliny | [primary] comment = Guest access Share path = /mnt/primary writeable = yes valid users = @smb guest ok = no |
| 22:09.00 | viliny | i uncommented security = user |
| 22:09.01 | Brigo | viliny: are you using gnome? |
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| 22:09.25 | viliny | im using a ssh shell right now, but it's the default 64 netinst so im sure its... gnome |
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| 22:10.22 | viliny | this being the second or third time im at this, i threw linux mint out the window etc. but my windows is set up to play real nice with samba - did some tweaks that tutos said would ease the communication between the machines |
| 22:10.32 | Brigo | viliny: because i used gnome-share and find it very easy |
| 22:11.25 | viliny | oh, i tried the one embedded to folder properties in nautilus, i tried the other one in the menu and i tried something called system-samba-config or something in mint which was aking to ubuntus tool |
| 22:11.31 | viliny | all of them failed somehow |
| 22:11.41 | Brigo | viliny: and what about woof? |
| 22:11.43 | viliny | mind you, this debian install is still pristine and just finished |
| 22:12.08 | viliny | haven't tried woof |
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| 22:12.25 | viliny | thought id do it the right way the first time without any gui programs messing anything up |
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| 22:13.22 | beefcube | i'm looking for feedback on a new OSS requirements management tool: https://github.com/jfeltz/fastreq I may submit it for a senior project at my school, but I want to make sure that it is something of use and relevance within the OSS/linux community before expending the effort |
| 22:14.24 | viliny | the samba server is clearly asking for a password, but my debian user won't do here, what way should i authenticate with it via windows? |
| 22:15.03 | Cultist | viliny, you added a sambauser with smbpasswd? |
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| 22:15.55 | viliny | Cultist: i was hoping it synced the existing users from the machine |
| 22:15.59 | viliny | so... no i guess |
| 22:16.30 | Cultist | do smbpasswd -L -a username |
| 22:16.36 | Cultist | then smbpasswd -L -e username |
| 22:16.42 | Cultist | username being a user that exists on the debian box |
| 22:16.46 | Cultist | then authenticate with that user |
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| 22:18.06 | viliny | hehe, that worked |
| 22:18.13 | Cultist | grats |
| 22:18.23 | viliny | thank you :) |
| 22:18.40 | Cultist | no problem |
| 22:19.18 | viliny | whats confusing me now is that i added a share with a sharename of "filetransfer" that was my users whole home folder |
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| 22:19.34 | viliny | now i can see that AND a separate instance of my home folder on the network shares |
| 22:19.47 | Cultist | the home directory is a default share |
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| 22:19.52 | Cultist | you can disable it by editing smb.conf |
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| 22:20.35 | viliny | i thought that would be disabled by default, but im happy either way - it's a media pc in the living room so i don't need it to guard any nasa secrets, just transfer content for viewing :) |
| 22:20.47 | viliny | Thanks for helping me out, this place always rocks :) |
| 22:21.16 | Cultist | glad to |
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| 22:25.25 | kingsley | Does anyone here happen to know how to tell the "grub" boot loader to transfer control to a DVD drive that's otherwise unbootable? |
| 22:26.01 | sadbox | quick question... I've looked around, but I can't find an answer... When the debian installer asks about installing to the "primary" hard drive, is that just the one with your root partition? |
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| 22:34.36 | peterrooney | viliny: since the primary use case of samba is sharing home folders, it seems a reasonable default setting. |
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| 22:39.51 | petn-randall | kingsley: You don't have the option to tell you BIOS to boot from it? |
| 22:41.39 | petn-randall | sadbox: Do you mean where it's installing Debian onto, or where to install the boot loader? |
| 22:41.56 | kingsley | petn-randall: The BIOS offers to boot from a CD, but fails when a DVD is in the CD/DVD drive. |
| 22:42.15 | petn-randall | kingsley: Is there DVD otherwise readable by the drive? |
| 22:42.22 | petn-randall | s/there/the/ |
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| 22:42.48 | sadbox | petn-randall: What drive it's installing the bootloader to |
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| 22:43.29 | petn-randall | sadbox: You want to install it to the drive where Debian is on, and then let the BIOS pick that first. If Debian is your only OS, you may also install it to all drives. |
| 22:43.46 | sadbox | Er, yes |
| 22:44.06 | sadbox | I mean, I have 3x hard drives on the machine that I'm currently installing to |
| 22:44.20 | sadbox | one of which has windows and I would like to leave that entire drive alone |
| 22:44.48 | sadbox | I'm just not sure how the installer picks which drive it will install the bootloader to |
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| 22:46.07 | sadbox | sda = a thumbdrive, sdb = the drive where debian is currently being installed to, sdc = the windows drive |
| 22:46.34 | kingsley | petn-randall: Yes, the DVD is readable, just not bootable. |
| 22:47.50 | petn-randall | kingsley: Did you burn one of the installer DVDs? Might be it's not bootable at all ... |
| 22:48.25 | petn-randall | sadbox: Check their sizes. You can also check it on the command line with 'fdisk -l' |
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| 22:49.56 | kingsley | petn-randall: I did not burn an installer DVD. |
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| 22:59.36 | jab416171 | how do I make insmod persist across reboots? |
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| 23:02.36 | tensorpudding | jab416171, you add the module you care about to /etc/modules, iirc |
| 23:02.58 | tensorpudding | you might also need to add a file to /etc/modprobe.d/ |
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| 23:05.37 | tensorpudding | oh...i figured out what the hardware problem was...it finally bit me in windows |
| 23:06.00 | tensorpudding | seems my graphics chipset is hiccupping or something |
| 23:06.33 | tensorpudding | somehow windows recovered from it though, don't know how |
| 23:06.41 | jab416171 | tensorpudding: it's already in /etc/modules |
| 23:06.51 | jab416171 | what do I need to do in /etc/modprobe.d/? |
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| 23:06.53 | tensorpudding | jab416171, it should be loaded then |
| 23:07.02 | jab416171 | it's not being loaded :( |
| 23:07.05 | tensorpudding | can you not find it in the output of lsmod? |
| 23:07.19 | jab416171 | it's in the output of lsmod when I manually run insmod |
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| 23:10.42 | crazy2k | Hello! I want to run offlineimap as a daemon. What's the easiest way to do that? |
| 23:12.12 | jab416171 | tensorpudding: I followed this (replace debian 7 with xubuntu 12.04, 3.2.0-4-amd64 with 3.2.0.40-generic and skip the "apt-get install linux-headers step) http://vger.kernel.org/~davem/chromebook_pixel_linux.txt |
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| 23:14.23 | tensorpudding | wait, you're asking for help to install xubuntu on a chromebook? |
| 23:14.45 | pfred1 | looks like they're just running a different kernel |
| 23:15.10 | jab416171 | it's already installed, and I can get the touchpad to work by manually running insmod, but it stops working once I reboot. I just want it to stay loaded between reboots. |
| 23:15.31 | tensorpudding | look at the output of dmesg, it should mention the drivers somehwere in there |
| 23:16.15 | useless-eater | jab416171: /etc/modules |
| 23:16.58 | jab416171 | useless-eater: it's in /etc/modules |
| 23:17.07 | useless-eater | oh |
| 23:17.59 | jab416171 | tensorpudding: it mention s the atmel driver, but not the chromeos_laptop driver |
| 23:18.40 | useless-eater | jab416171: strange then. If you got it in there, why do it start working when you insmod.. maybe you have to blacklist another one? |
| 23:19.06 | tensorpudding | maybe it's in your kernel log somewhere an error |
| 23:19.20 | useless-eater | ^ probably |
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| 23:21.34 | jab416171 | kern.log? nothing. |
| 23:21.37 | useless-eater | jab416171: what exactly do you do to make it work? |
| 23:22.06 | jab416171 | useless-eater: insmod chromeos_laptop.ko && insmod atmel_mxt_ts.ko |
| 23:22.07 | useless-eater | jab416171: dmesg |less (or grep for module or errors) |
| 23:22.27 | jab416171 | useless-eater: dmesg | grep chrome -> no output |
| 23:22.48 | hfrsk | I am trying to connect a second hdd into the cdrom or media bay but I am not recieving power, how would I get it to power up cd/dvd drive bay connector? |
| 23:22.55 | useless-eater | jab416171: those modules are listed in /etc/modules? |
| 23:23.14 | jab416171 | yes |
| 23:23.38 | jab416171 | cat /etc/modules -> lp, rtc, chromeos_laptop, atmel_mxt_ts |
| 23:24.19 | jab416171 | I also copied the .ko's to /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/input/touchscreen/atmel_mxt_ts.ko and /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/platform/x86/chromeos_laptop.ko |
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| 23:25.47 | jab416171 | obviously, I can hack it by putting the insmod commands in a startup script |
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| 23:27.47 | hfrsk | can linux utilize the dam cd/dvd bay for a hard drive??? |
| 23:28.19 | hfrsk | on a laptop? |
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| 23:30.36 | jab416171 | tensorpudding: any ideas? |
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| 23:35.09 | aidan | How can I downgrade to php5.3 in wheezy? |
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| 23:35.15 | aidan | I see dotdeb is not supported in wheezy |
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| 23:36.25 | rudi_s | aidan: Build a custom php5 package which uses an older version of php5. |
| 23:36.33 | aidan | surely there's a better way than that? |
| 23:36.35 | rudi_s | But the real question is why? |
| 23:36.48 | rudi_s | aidan: Not really. |
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| 23:37.11 | aidan | php54 has breaking API changes that breaks lots of thigns |
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| 23:38.27 | rudi_s | aidan: Well, bad design choices by PHP ... not much that Debian can do about it. |
| 23:38.48 | aidan | right |
| 23:38.56 | aidan | why not include both versions? |
| 23:39.04 | rudi_s | aidan: Double maintenance burden? |
| 23:39.30 | rudi_s | Maybe the EOLed the support for php 5.3, I don't know. I don't use PHP. |
| 23:39.51 | rudi_s | !snapshot |
| 23:39.52 | dpkg | http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces snapshot.debian.net. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412 |
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| 23:40.03 | rudi_s | aidan: Grab an old version and build it for your system. |
| 23:40.16 | rudi_s | (And fix the issues which might show up.) |
| 23:40.39 | rudi_s | Or just install php in /usr/local or something similar. But a real debian package is almost always the better way. |
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| 23:41.21 | pfred1 | rudi_s not always |
| 23:41.26 | jonathanpoon | hi everyone, need some advice on buying a new CPU for a debian server. Would you guys go with an Intel i7-3770k or a AMD FX-8350? I |
| 23:41.38 | pfred1 | intel |
| 23:41.39 | jonathanpoon | I plan on running many programs/threads on the server... |
| 23:41.41 | Zharf | intel |
| 23:41.46 | rudi_s | pfred1: "almost always" ;-) |
| 23:42.06 | pfred1 | the intelligent choice |
| 23:42.31 | jonathanpoon | does hyperthreading work well in Linux? |
| 23:42.43 | pfred1 | mostly because intel is one of the biggese Linux supporters on the planet |
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| 23:45.15 | jonathanpoon | sounds good |
| 23:45.15 | jonathanpoon | thanks |
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| 23:49.56 | jab416171 | nobody? |
| 23:49.57 | jab416171 | :( |
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| 23:53.21 | philluminati | Hi guys. I want to install debian onto my (cd drive less) netbook and all I have is a 128MB usb drive. I have the business card image working and loaded, but since I need networking during the install how can I configure dhcp please? |
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| 23:57.32 | rudi_s | philluminati: The installer should configure the network automatically. |
| 23:57.40 | rudi_s | *including DHCP |
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