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| 00:00.01 | philluminati | rudi_s: it never prompts for the wireless username and password... |
| 00:00.19 | philluminati | sorry, I completely wrote a misleading question |
| 00:00.33 | philluminati | It's 1am here :-s |
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| 00:00.55 | rudi_s | philluminati: Oh, wireless. That can be problematic. Can't really help you there, sorry. I always had trouble with wireless on my netbook. |
| 00:01.07 | rudi_s | Can't you use a network cable? |
| 00:01.29 | philluminati | can I use the business cd with a wireless network? I have done it sucessfully using the minimal cd but that's bigger than the 128MB drive I have |
| 00:01.51 | philluminati | rudi_s: I might have to dig around for a network cable |
| 00:01.59 | philluminati | never thought that day would come |
| 00:02.02 | rudi_s | philluminati: No idea, never used the business version. |
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| 00:03.25 | philluminati | goes to find router... |
| 00:03.56 | histo | !tell philluminati about firmware |
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| 00:09.50 | philluminati | don't worry |
| 00:10.01 | philluminati | this is so much easier I don't know why I didn't do it first |
| 00:10.08 | philluminati | (it's installing now) |
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| 00:10.12 | philluminati | thanks rudi_s |
| 00:10.54 | rudi_s | philluminati: np, glad it works now. |
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| 00:16.07 | Derpadong | Anyone alive? lol jk Can someone help me with fstab real quick? |
| 00:17.26 | jiohdi | Derpadong, whats the delemna? |
| 00:17.38 | seekanet | is there an easier way to go about windows other then ALWAYS going to Activities, and from there? |
| 00:18.29 | Derpadong | lol |
| 00:18.43 | farmerjohn | seekanet: is it gnome 3 you are talking about? |
| 00:19.03 | seekanet | farmerjohn, I think so, on Wheezy, the defualt desktop environment. |
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| 00:19.25 | farmerjohn | seekanet: you can use alt + tab to switch |
| 00:19.41 | seekanet | That works, thank you farmerjohn |
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| 00:19.51 | jiohdi | Derpadong, did you have a question? |
| 00:20.31 | farmerjohn | seekanet: also alt + ` (backtick) will switch between different windows of same application if i remember correctly |
| 00:20.33 | Derpadong | Yeah |
| 00:20.56 | Derpadong | I need to set automount for this sdcard to always have it mounted no matter what |
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| 00:21.05 | seekanet | You're my hero farmerjohn ;) |
| 00:21.07 | jiohdi | k |
| 00:21.19 | farmerjohn | seekanet: glad i could help |
| 00:21.38 | jiohdi | Derpadong, in root terminal# blkid |
| 00:21.38 | Derpadong | Im not getting answers but ill bbl |
| 00:21.45 | jiohdi | if it has an entry you can set it |
| 00:21.47 | CVirus | aptitude -VP install wants to install around 70 packages .. How can I know which package is pullign them as a dependency ? |
| 00:21.50 | CVirus | pulling* |
| 00:22.24 | jiohdi | you need to see if it has a UUID, and the blkid will give that to you if it does |
| 00:22.55 | jiohdi | then you just root#gedit or some other editor to edit the fstab file |
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| 00:23.23 | jiohdi | Derpadong, just follow the format of the others already there |
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| 00:25.10 | bim | how to install a real time kernel after installing wheezy ?thanks |
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| 00:26.10 | bim | I installed 3.2.0-4-686-pae during the net install |
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| 00:28.14 | rudi_s | bim: Just install it. apt-get install linux-image-rt-amd64 |
| 00:28.21 | AFlyingMonkey | Im trying to setup a start-stop-daemon, Ive gotten it to start and the service works while started, however it the shell doesnt return after calling the script |
| 00:28.30 | AFlyingMonkey | heres the script in question: http://pastie.org/private/skd9jintgyacg92oytgrga |
| 00:28.45 | bim | 32 bit rudi_s |
| 00:28.59 | rudi_s | bim: Well, adapt it for your system. |
| 00:29.10 | rudi_s | I guess it's linux-image-rt-i386 then. |
| 00:29.48 | bim | I'll browse what is in synaptic |
| 00:30.10 | rudi_s | Just search for linux-image-rt- |
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| 00:30.42 | jiohdi | or apt-cache search -rt |
| 00:31.33 | bim | linux-image-3.3.0-4-rt-686-pae looks good |
| 00:31.48 | bim | 3.2.0 * |
| 00:33.11 | pfred1 | eww PAE? |
| 00:33.32 | petn-randall | CVirus: AFAIK it'll install any previously selected packages. Just do 'Cancel pending actions'. |
| 00:34.04 | CVirus | petn-randall: 'Cancel pending actions' ? where is that ? |
| 00:34.27 | bim | is pae not cool ? |
| 00:34.33 | petn-randall | CVirus: aptitude -> Actions -> Cancel pending actions |
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| 00:34.54 | petn-randall | bim: do you need PAE? |
| 00:35.04 | bim | no...4 Gb |
| 00:35.09 | CVirus | petn-randall: oh thanks |
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| 00:35.57 | bim | all the rt kernels searched at synapyic are pae |
| 00:36.04 | petn-randall | bim: No 4 Gigabit of what? |
| 00:36.41 | bim | I thought that the pae was for ram considerations...more than 4 Gb or something |
| 00:36.50 | histo | bim: it is |
| 00:37.06 | bim | I said no to needing pae then.... |
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| 00:37.36 | bim | It seems that all the rt kernels are pae...searched at synaptic |
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| 00:37.46 | petn-randall | bim: How many RAM do you have? |
| 00:38.09 | bim | 2 Gb in this laptop , 4 Gb in desktop |
| 00:38.47 | bim | <4Gb in desktop, actually 3.7 something |
| 00:39.10 | histo | bim: you can still use the pae kernel with less than 4gb of ram if need be |
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| 00:40.01 | bim | It seems the only rt kernels are pae anyway...searched linux-image -rt |
| 00:40.50 | histo | bim: and you're using rt kernel on a laptop why? |
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| 00:41.20 | bim | music recording with the intention of using Jack |
| 00:41.43 | bim | Ardour Hydrogen etc.... |
| 00:42.31 | bim | I have the Tango Studio desktop and repos for software |
| 00:43.25 | bim | During the wheezy net install it slipped my mind to install the rt kernel as offered |
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| 00:47.10 | bim | well I installed the linux-image-3.2.0-4-rt-686-pae kernerl, Think I need to reboot for it to kick in ? |
| 00:48.05 | bim | uname -r |
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| 00:55.20 | chris___ | I'm ssh'ing into my new debian server which is downstairs. It's my first go at using it instead of ubuntu. I know my Seagate USB drive is connected to the server but there's nothing in /media except empty unmounted folders. Is there something I need to do to mount this drive? |
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| 00:58.24 | chris___ | Strangely there's no sign of the drive with 'df'. |
| 00:58.41 | chris___ | Is there something I'm missing or should this just work like it does in ubuntu? |
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| 01:02.07 | LordDoskias | what is the recommended way to add a service to inetd to ensure it never dies |
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| 01:02.14 | LordDoskias | e.g. is ther esomething which superseedes inetd |
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| 01:07.21 | chris___ | What's the recommend way to auto mount any usb drives that are plugged in? |
| 01:08.58 | rudi_s | chris___: Do it manually? |
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| 01:09.28 | rudi_s | Or if it's always connected /etc/fstab. |
| 01:09.53 | histo | chris___: servers don't automount |
| 01:09.54 | chris___ | rudi_s: It will be connected most of the time |
| 01:10.03 | histo | chris___: then add it to /etc/fstab |
| 01:10.28 | chris___ | Is there a tool I can use that will automout all drives? THis is a media server so it's ok in this case. |
| 01:10.38 | histo | chris___: mkdir /srv/storage && mount /dev/whatver /srv/storage |
| 01:11.06 | histo | chris___: then add a line in your fstab to mount /dev/whatever on boot |
| 01:11.22 | chris___ | histo: I don't see the device when I type 'df' |
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| 01:12.00 | rudi_s | chris___: df only lists mounted deviecs. |
| 01:12.07 | histo | chris___: right it's not mounted lsblk you will see it |
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| 01:12.39 | chris___ | histo: I don't have lsblk |
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| 01:13.30 | histo | chris___: dmesg |
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| 01:14.03 | chris___ | hwhen hs |
| 01:14.15 | chris___ | histo: when I type 'lsusb' I can see my device as 'Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0bc2:2320 Seagate RSS LLC' |
| 01:14.21 | chris___ | How can I mount this? |
| 01:14.34 | histo | chris___: blkid |
| 01:14.48 | chris___ | ahaa |
| 01:15.02 | histo | !automount | chris___ |
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| 01:15.16 | histo | dpkg: tell chris___ about automount |
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| 01:17.17 | chris___ | how do I 'refresh' my changes to fstab? |
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| 01:17.58 | histo | chris___: type in mount -a |
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| 01:20.28 | chris___ | The mount is already in fstab at /media/usb0 but there are no files there and no sign of it in 'mount' |
| 01:20.33 | alazred | Hi guys any one has played around with teamviewer ? I have an issue with it. |
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| 01:27.33 | Towzzer | alarzed, I have but for windows |
| 01:30.09 | histo | chris___: please paste bin the output of blkid your fstab and the output of mount |
| 01:30.24 | histo | alazred: what issue:? |
| 01:30.48 | alazred | Towzzer: Well it's on my debian box that I have problem with it... I mean it connect to other computers correctly but when I try to connect to it, it connect but no images... |
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| 01:31.16 | histo | alazred: firewall? |
| 01:31.18 | alazred | And that since I installed nvidia drivers... |
| 01:32.07 | alazred | histo: No It tells me that the connection is established but the remote screen dont show p |
| 01:32.12 | alazred | *up |
| 01:32.30 | histo | alazred: perhaps ask teamviewer support. I've never experienced an issue with it. |
| 01:33.20 | alazred | histo: It was working fine with the nouveau driver ... thx anyway ! |
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| 01:39.19 | osaio | alazred: are you using stock kernel? |
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| 01:42.05 | alazred | osaio: I'm running sid 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.41-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 01:43.06 | osaio | alazred: So stock kernel, right? You didn't compile a custom kernel yourself? |
| 01:43.22 | osaio | nvidia binary blob is not compatible with the stock kernel which has framebuffer enabled. |
| 01:43.56 | osaio | ensure that no framebuffer modules are enabled or compiled as a module as part of the kernel |
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| 01:44.25 | alazred | osaio: Yes stock kernel, how can i check that ? |
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| 01:45.25 | osaio | alazred: have you never compiled your kernel before? |
| 01:46.01 | alazred | osaio: two or three times when I did a gentoo box |
| 01:47.15 | osaio | Likewise, I run Gentoo as well. It's the same concept, just make sure framebuffer is disabled. I'm really not suited to be giving advice, though. That might not even be the problem, but if it isn't, at least you're narrowing it down. Nvidia warns that their drivers are incompatible with fb modules |
| 01:49.27 | alazred | osaio: I notice that my console resolution was messed up since I've installed it... So you think that I should recompile the kernel without fb support ? |
| 01:49.54 | osaio | that won't directly fix your console resolution necessarily, but that is what I'd do, yes. |
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| 01:50.46 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | I think there's a kernel option to set the resolution but I'm not sure |
| 01:52.00 | alazred | osaio: thanks for your advice I'll take a look into it. |
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| 02:01.34 | tensorpudding | is it possible to add a sysrq key if my keyboard lacks one |
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| 02:03.29 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | yes, I think there's a file in /proc somewhere you can specify what to use as the sysrq key, and probably some other setting elsewhere that can be preserved between boots |
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| 02:10.23 | Andymeows | Hello, I'm trying to find out how easy it would be to upgrade debian wheezy from RC to Final when it's ready. |
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| 02:13.52 | mns | Andymeows: what do you have in /etc/apt/sources.list right now ? |
| 02:13.53 | Andymeows | is it as easy as doing a apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 02:13.56 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | tensorpudding: hm, apparently there is no option, except editing a file in the kernel |
| 02:14.50 | Andymeows | I haven't installed yet. I'm planning on building a server based on wheezy, but if I can start already by using the RC, then I'd do that |
| 02:15.52 | mns | Andymeows: its easy to do. you don't even have to do dist-upgrade if you have the right entries in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 02:16.28 | zykotick9 | Andymeows: just for info, the RC is for the installer, not wheezy. |
| 02:17.17 | Andymeows | oh great, so then just doing an upgrade will bring it up to the official release version (once it is released)? |
| 02:17.50 | mns | Andymeows: if you're talking about hte installer, then you dont need the "final" version of it once you do the install. |
| 02:17.57 | zykotick9 | Andymeows: yes. wheezy will always be wheezy - although it's currently also testing, but soon it will be stable ;) |
| 02:18.39 | Andymeows | mns/zykotick9: thanks for your help |
| 02:18.52 | mns | Andymeows: I've done installs using the current RC installer. In fact the laptop I'm running it on right now was done that way. once debian is installed, I dont care about the installer whether its RC or Final. |
| 02:19.35 | Andymeows | mns: sounds good, I'm downloading the RC installer now then :-D |
| 02:20.10 | mns | Andymeows: enjoy. |
| 02:21.26 | tensorpudding | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI: eh, i figured it out that print screen works as sysrq |
| 02:21.43 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | well |
| 02:21.44 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | yeah |
| 02:21.53 | tensorpudding | the sysrq keybindings i used were correct, they just didn't work in that instance because the computer was too frozen, i guess |
| 02:22.39 | tensorpudding | i guess if the computer is so messed up it can't respond to ping and times out of internet connectivity, sysrq isn't going to work either |
| 02:22.52 | tensorpudding | really wish i knew how windows could recover from this |
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| 02:30.22 | seekanet | i plugged my usb stick in, how can i mount it or see if debian sees it or not? |
| 02:31.08 | LtL | seekanet: apt-get install usbmount |
| 02:31.26 | LtL | seekanet: its automatic |
| 02:32.03 | seekanet | ok installed it. it set it up. what's automatic, sorry? |
| 02:33.01 | seekanet | oh wait |
| 02:33.04 | seekanet | i see it |
| 02:33.06 | seekanet | :) |
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| 02:43.44 | jarray52 | Is there an unofficial release date for Debian 7.0? |
| 02:43.52 | jarray52 | stable |
| 02:44.17 | babilen | no |
| 02:44.24 | babilen | couple of weeks |
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| 02:45.04 | zykotick9 | yes, "when it's ready" ;) there are still around 50 RC bugs to squash before release. any estimates on the time that will take are 100% guesses/crystal-ball estimates ;) |
| 02:46.08 | jarray52 | Can't rush quality, right? |
| 02:46.18 | jarray52 | ;-) |
| 02:46.38 | jarray52 | 50 RC bugs puts things in perspective. |
| 02:46.51 | babilen | dpkg: tell jarray52 -about rc bugs |
| 02:46.53 | ChibaPet | ,versions nvidia-dkms |
| 02:46.54 | judd | No package named 'nvidia-dkms' was found in i386. |
| 02:47.01 | babilen | dpkg: tell jarray52 -about install wheezy |
| 02:47.14 | ChibaPet | ,versions nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 02:47.15 | babilen | jarray52: You can install it today if you want |
| 02:47.16 | judd | Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on i386 -- squeeze-proposed-updates/non-free: 195.36.31-6squeeze1; squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6squeeze2; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+2; sid/non-free: 304.88-1; wheezy/non-free: 304.88-1; experimental/non-free: 313.30-1 |
| 02:47.35 | babilen | ChibaPet: Try a "/msg judd v PKG" next time please |
| 02:47.37 | ChibaPet | What tool can give me that versions functionality from the command line? |
| 02:47.38 | zykotick9 | jarray52: this gives a nice outline of what they actually are, and only 39 today, http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?release=wheezy&merged=ign&rc=1 |
| 02:47.54 | ChibaPet | babilen: Help me out and I won't use IRC for that again. :P |
| 02:47.59 | babilen | ChibaPet: rmadison (but it is off and slower) |
| 02:48.07 | ChibaPet | off? |
| 02:48.20 | babilen | outdated |
| 02:48.30 | ChibaPet | Ah. That's too bad. |
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| 02:48.52 | babilen | due to various reasons, powell.debian.org being down is one of them. (same reason why packages.debian.org is not being updated) |
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| 02:49.15 | ChibaPet | I couldn't remember the name of the bot in question, incidentally, hence my not doing that privately. dpkg doesn't know ,versions. |
| 02:49.41 | babilen | ChibaPet: It is an okay too and you can use "apt-cache policy PKG" to see an overview of the repositories you have in your sources.list |
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| 02:50.24 | jarray52 | babilen: You mean I can install testing today? |
| 02:50.34 | babilen | sure |
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| 02:50.54 | ChibaPet | babilen: Hm, my pinning must be wrong for that. I've got Wheezy at priority 900 and other things at -10. Sort of cargo-cultish of me. |
| 02:51.10 | babilen | jarray52: I would even recommend to do that over installing squeeze in a couple of situations |
| 02:51.11 | ChibaPet | I should learn to do pinning better. |
| 02:51.21 | jarray52 | babilen: Yes, I knew that. I saw that on the Debian website. |
| 02:51.44 | ChibaPet | jarray52: If you do it, consider calling it "wheezy" in your sources.list, as then you'll stick with it once Wheezy is released and Testing becomes Jessie. |
| 02:51.47 | babilen | ChibaPet: You typically don't need to pin at all ... |
| 02:52.07 | ChibaPet | babilen: I needed GRUB2 out of Experimental for a while. |
| 02:52.34 | jarray52 | babilen: I plan to use this as a server. And, I'm in no rush. So, I can wait for stable if it is likely to appear in April. |
| 02:52.36 | ChibaPet | babilen: And I'm thinking of trying nvidia from Experimental to see if I can use its multicore support for rendering. |
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| 02:53.02 | ChibaPet | jarray52: There's no definite date, but Wheezy is very solid at the moment. |
| 02:53.23 | babilen | ChibaPet: grub doesn't require you to pin /at all/ -- trust me or read "man 5 apt_preferences" if you don't. (in particular the bit about "NotAutomatic" and "ButAutomaticUpgrades") |
| 02:53.45 | babilen | ChibaPet: err, s/grub/experimental/ |
| 02:53.49 | un214 | java plugin is completely not functioning |
| 02:53.53 | un214 | does not even show up in the list |
| 02:54.01 | babilen | which? |
| 02:54.16 | jarray52 | ChibaPet: Debian is usually very solid. ;-) |
| 02:54.29 | ChibaPet | babilen: Hm, it seemed like without setting a priority of -10 I was getting lots of upgrade suggestions, but that may well have been Sid and not Experimental. (Someone suggested the 'adequate' package but it's not in Wheezy.) |
| 02:55.12 | babilen | jarray52: I wouldn't have any concerns installing it now. One of the bugs that prevents us from releasing it today is specific to the upgrade path (in fact "the bug" are many bugs with the same symptom) |
| 02:55.28 | babilen | dpkg: tell ChibaPet -about tum |
| 02:55.30 | rue_mohr | whats a good window manager? |
| 02:55.33 | babilen | dpkg: tell ChibaPet -about target release |
| 02:55.37 | babilen | rue_mohr: awesome |
| 02:55.41 | rue_mohr | ok |
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| 02:55.59 | babilen | rue_mohr: also: please define what constitutes "good" :) |
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| 02:57.06 | ChibaPet | babilen: It didn't know about tum, but I didn't know that target release syntax. That seems perfect for what I want. Thank you. |
| 02:57.17 | zykotick9 | rue_mohr: if you try awesome, i hope you pick it up faster then i did. big tip - if there are ANY syntax errors in rc.lua no changes will be applied. |
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| 02:57.30 | thoonai | 'evening |
| 02:57.30 | babilen | ChibaPet: As I said: You typically don't want to pin at all. |
| 02:57.58 | Nameless | i've installed wheezy on my macbookpro, but at the boot it stops at this: http://i.imgur.com/P9JfucP.jpg |
| 02:58.10 | thoonai | does it sounds reasonable that the debian installer can't detect ubuntu luks crypted disks? |
| 02:58.11 | ChibaPet | babilen: Yeah, especially since I've never really understood the priority system. |
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| 03:01.25 | thoonai | hm? all sleeping nicely ^^ |
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| 03:03.35 | un214 | java plugin in openjdk is libnpt.so. iceweasel seems to want libnpjp2.so |
| 03:03.44 | un214 | what is going on? |
| 03:04.22 | thoonai | hi un214 weren't you the guy with a dell notebook an huge problems? |
| 03:04.50 | un214 | technically true but that laptop never ran debian |
| 03:04.56 | dabor | un214: java plugins is icedtea7 |
| 03:05.30 | thoonai | remembers everything |
| 03:06.09 | un214 | no freaking match on *icedtea7* |
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| 03:16.49 | crackerjackz | histo, you still around? |
| 03:18.32 | Nameless | anyone on there sucessfully installed debian on a macbook? |
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| 03:18.57 | ChibaPet | Nameless: Successfully installed it on an iMac. Not a MacBook yet. |
| 03:19.22 | Nameless | shouldn't be different |
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| 03:19.37 | ChibaPet | Wheezy, by the way. I haven't tried Squeeze on Mac hardware. |
| 03:19.44 | Nameless | i'm stuck on "waiting for /dev to be fully populated, at boot |
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| 03:21.05 | ChibaPet | Nameless: I see this, which might be similar...? http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=75574 |
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| 03:21.36 | thoonai | debian installer has problems detecting luks crypted drives |
| 03:21.40 | ChibaPet | Nameless: If it's a new install and you're not invested in it, I'd suggest trying Wheezy on the box. |
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| 03:22.01 | Nameless | on the box? |
| 03:22.08 | Nameless | anyway, it's a mbp 3.1 |
| 03:22.15 | ChibaPet | Nameless: On the mbp 3.1 then. :P |
| 03:22.31 | isaias | i need help. My debian doesnt have any internet connections. |
| 03:22.39 | isaias | how can I fix this with no internet? |
| 03:22.56 | Nameless | oh, you mean in the laptop lol |
| 03:23.11 | Nameless | well, that's what i installed |
| 03:23.12 | Nameless | :P |
| 03:23.28 | sussudio | i think my kernel has gone a bit demented after the fourth 497-day uptime rollover... |
| 03:23.30 | ChibaPet | Nameless: Ah, hrm. Alright, I'm not sure what it might be, but I'm seeing what search engines turn up about it. |
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| 03:24.14 | thoonai | isaias: does it is connected via wifi, cable or some other protocol? does you use dhcp or not? |
| 03:24.23 | isaias | wifi |
| 03:24.30 | isaias | whats dhcp? |
| 03:25.08 | ChibaPet | Nameless: I'm sorry to give up so easily, but I'm not seeing things that are leading me to suggestions yet. |
| 03:25.10 | lmaowaffle | isaias: what does ifconfig -a tell u |
| 03:25.16 | Nameless | ChibaPet: since i've set up an OCZ Vertex4, i first installed OSX, then rEFInd |
| 03:25.22 | Nameless | then debian |
| 03:25.23 | thoonai | isaias: try to help the supportes and google it ^^ just saying dhcp distributes ip adresses and stuff in your lan |
| 03:25.31 | LtL | isaias: dynamic host control protocol |
| 03:25.45 | ChibaPet | Nameless: Ah, hrm. Different from what I did on the iMac - I wiped it and started with a fresh GPT. |
| 03:25.54 | thoonai | lmaowaffle: LtL m) |
| 03:26.01 | Nameless | after the install, i got this: http://i.imgur.com/sv9qGRT.jpg then re-installed rEFInd |
| 03:26.06 | isaias | i dont have ifconfig |
| 03:26.15 | Nameless | now i got this: http://i.imgur.com/P9JfucP.jpg |
| 03:26.25 | thoonai | isaias: do you know how to open a terminal? |
| 03:26.43 | isaias | thoonai, yes. I'm therem it says command not found |
| 03:27.00 | thoonai | isaias: check for typos |
| 03:27.01 | lmaowaffle | it should be included in the net-tools package |
| 03:27.12 | lmaowaffle | (ie in base install) |
| 03:27.21 | Nameless | now at boot i have rEFInd > Grub (kinda lame) and the only OS i cannot run is debian |
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| 03:27.33 | Nameless | grub can even boot OSX |
| 03:27.44 | isaias | not there |
| 03:27.46 | thoonai | lmaowaffle: isaias use 'ip addr' instead |
| 03:28.06 | thoonai | likes to help people but should sleep a bit |
| 03:28.21 | ChibaPet | Nameless: Did you install with the release-candidate Wheezy installer, out of curiosity? |
| 03:28.36 | Nameless | rc1 yes |
| 03:28.38 | ohoui | hey debian bosses, I have a tainted kernel with Radeon HD 5700 running on kernel 2.6.32-5-amd64 with an AMD FX(tm)-8150 Eight-Core Processor... the thing is, every once in a while (5~15 days) my whole pc freeze... I have a bit of a log, anyone care to help? |
| 03:28.58 | isaias | thoonai: lo, etho, or pan0? |
| 03:29.05 | ChibaPet | Nameless: I don't know that this is relevant, but someone with a similar problem was able to boot further by telling the kernel "acpi=off" |
| 03:29.26 | rryoumaa | what is that? |
| 03:29.36 | Nameless | nice, how can i tell grub to boot the OS with that option? |
| 03:29.51 | thoonai | isaias: may you paste it on a paste site your preference? |
| 03:30.10 | mns | How do I stop Chromium from opening up PDF files in GIMP rather then using Evince ? |
| 03:30.13 | ChibaPet | Nameless: You can edit the Grub menu entry and replace "quiet" in the kernel command line with "acpi=off" - that's probably the easiest way. |
| 03:30.27 | ChibaPet | s/Grub/GRUB/ |
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| 03:30.36 | isaias | thoonai: i'm on my sister's laptop. I dont have any internet access on my debian. |
| 03:30.54 | jiohdi | mns, in a file manager, there should be a back click option to open with... change the default |
| 03:30.56 | thoonai | locally lan? |
| 03:31.03 | becker_11 | hi I've just discovered the mail program at the command line and was wondering how to set it up so I can send and receive emails |
| 03:31.08 | Nameless | thanks ChibaPet, i'll try right now |
| 03:31.29 | ChibaPet | I'll look forward to seeing if it helps. |
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| 03:31.38 | isaias | thoonai: I'll have to move my whole machine to the other side of the house and look for a long enough ethernet cable |
| 03:31.51 | isaias | lol |
| 03:31.55 | isaias | im screwed |
| 03:32.09 | thoonai | isaias: I'm sorry but logs can be helpful though |
| 03:32.18 | isaias | i'll type it all |
| 03:32.22 | isaias | give me a minute |
| 03:32.40 | mns | jiohdi: I do not use a file manager. I don't use KDE/GNOME/XFCE/LXDE or such. Just simple X11 + wm |
| 03:32.46 | becker_11 | isaias use pastebin |
| 03:33.02 | isaias | becker_11: already there ;) |
| 03:33.16 | thoonai | isaias: type it? o.O move to your computer ^^ |
| 03:33.26 | becker_11 | isaias, cool! |
| 03:33.56 | zykotick9 | becker_11: honestly, if you want to to email from terminal look into mutt. mutt can setup to use pop/imap fairly easily. using mail is gonna require A LOT more work, setting up MT-whatevers ;) good luck. |
| 03:33.59 | thoonai | becker_11: he has no internetz becaus other machine and no exp |
| 03:34.06 | isaias | thoonai: I dont think I have a long enough cable. I'll check though |
| 03:34.30 | becker_11 | thoonai, okay fair enough |
| 03:34.53 | becker_11 | zykotick9, I've used mutt before just found mail and thought I'd look into it |
| 03:34.59 | thoonai | isaias: ok, make a list for your next purchases and put a 10m/30ft ethernatcable cat6 on it |
| 03:35.30 | thoonai | and a 2GB usb key |
| 03:35.37 | zykotick9 | becker_11: well, you could do it if you want - it's just a bit of an undertaking is all |
| 03:36.24 | becker_11 | zykotick9, do you know of a website that explains the ins n outs? |
| 03:36.43 | zykotick9 | becker_11: no. good luck :) |
| 03:37.20 | thoonai | wrecks his hdd cages from his cursable server |
| 03:37.41 | ohoui | meh, i'll try the beta driver |
| 03:37.45 | ohoui | wish me luck |
| 03:38.15 | thoonai | isaias: soon I should move myself back to the laboratory and work on so then I can elp you again |
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| 03:40.46 | Nameless | ChibaPet: http://i.imgur.com/jv3LlFr.jpg & http://i.imgur.com/XquNvf6.jpg |
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| 03:44.13 | ChibaPet | Nameless: Well. That's different anyway. There was one other things to try. Let me see... |
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| 03:44.47 | isaias_ | i was able to get on wirelessly after i rebooted for the 4th time |
| 03:44.52 | ChibaPet | Nameless: The other thing to try might be "noapic" instead of "acpi=off" |
| 03:46.13 | Nameless | let's try |
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| 03:52.42 | Nameless | Chiba: stuck on "fb: conflicting fb hw usage nouveaufb vs EFI VGA - removing generic driver" |
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| 03:55.28 | Nameless | http://www.imgur.com/FcCDCSh.jpeg |
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| 03:57.48 | ChibaPet | Ah, that sounds like issues I've seen. I could be wrong, but I think what people did to resolve that was remove Nouveau and just use nv. |
| 03:58.01 | ChibaPet | I don't recommend the proprietary nVidia driver, but that's another option. |
| 03:59.33 | Nameless | What to edit in grub? |
| 03:59.48 | osaio | only use the proprietary nvidia driver if you need it for some reason is a good rule of thumb |
| 04:00.24 | ChibaPet | Nameless, I'm not 100% sure. |
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| 04:01.13 | Nameless | Taking a pic of my actual grub script |
| 04:01.52 | ChibaPet | Nameless: I think you want to remove any references to Nouveau from your linux command line, but you want to actually blacklist the module in modules.conf or something - I'd recommend searching for details of that. |
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| 04:02.29 | LtL | Nameless: try nomodeset appended to the end of the load linux line in the grub splash menu, hit 'e' to edit.. |
| 04:02.42 | Nameless | by chrooting with a live-cd maybe? |
| 04:02.55 | Nameless | Yep LtL |
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| 04:03.26 | Nameless | ChibaPet: http://www.imgur.com/4MDxe6F.jpeg |
| 04:03.37 | ChibaPet | Hm, I tend not to use a LiveCD, but that would certainly work. But try LtL's suggestion first. |
| 04:04.59 | Nameless | Looks like I'm stuck on flashing underscore |
| 04:07.43 | ChibaPet | Nameless: I think your goal right now is to disable Nouveau anyway. |
| 04:08.15 | Nameless | Wat, i was not stuck, I went to shut it down and output went out |
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| 04:08.41 | ChibaPet | Progress! :) |
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| 04:09.47 | Nameless | Keyboard is not working :/ |
| 04:10.08 | Nameless | Wait |
| 04:10.18 | Nameless | Nope. |
| 04:10.30 | Nameless | I can only turn it off |
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| 04:18.16 | Nameless | There isn't a way to boot the system without graphics? |
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| 04:18.42 | Nameless | Instead of trying a live-cd |
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| 04:21.01 | thoonai | isais git it? |
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| 04:26.46 | Rusty1 | Nameless: there is not recovery option in the boot menu? |
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| 04:27.25 | Nameless | Same problem rusty |
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| 04:30.38 | AFlyingMonkey | My postfix is running however telnet localhost 50' cannot connect, anyone have an idea what could be going on? |
| 04:31.57 | LtL | AFlyingMonkey: wouldn't that be port 110 ? |
| 04:32.40 | yeheyuan | 110 pop3, 23 telnet |
| 04:32.49 | LtL | or 25 then |
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| 04:34.12 | yeheyuan | smtp |
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| 04:36.34 | AFlyingMonkey | smtp is port 50 isnt it? |
| 04:36.43 | LtL | no |
| 04:36.56 | AFlyingMonkey | 25 |
| 04:37.30 | AFlyingMonkey | nvm |
| 04:37.50 | AFlyingMonkey | not sure where I got 50 from |
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| 05:33.33 | asciiker | Hello |
| 05:33.42 | asciiker | I need some help with grub2 |
| 05:34.27 | asciiker | can't change the linux-image, no matter what I do it always boots to 2.6.32-5-xen-686, it's a remote server |
| 05:34.40 | asciiker | anyway got grub2 down? |
| 05:34.48 | asciiker | anyone? |
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| 05:52.53 | nkuttler | does somebody have a setup where they use apt-cache-ng dynamically? e.g. for a laptop that switches networks? |
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| 06:08.47 | gnudna | nkuttler, no not dynamically |
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| 06:09.51 | gnudna | not sure what would happen if apt-cacher-ng was down |
| 06:10.35 | martukas | LUKS encrypted image. cryptsetup accepted the password and mounted it in /dev/mapper/encrypto1 . pvs gives me /dev/mapper/encrypto1 xubuntu lvm2 a-- 7.75g 32.00m which is correct, but if VG is 'xubuntu' then I should do lvdisplay /dev/xubuntu ? this one gives me references to my primary drive, not the one I'm after, so if I mount any of that I just get a duplicate of my own root not the stuff in that volume. Anyone well versed |
| 06:10.35 | martukas | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:12.10 | gnudna | lvdisplay might help you see the lvm partitions |
| 06:13.02 | gnudna | vgdisplay will show you the volumes |
| 06:13.20 | gnudna | and lvdisplay the partition located on said volumes |
| 06:13.29 | gnudna | then a simple mount should work |
| 06:13.35 | gnudna | in theory ;) |
| 06:13.41 | martukas | lvdisplay shows me the primary drive |
| 06:14.47 | aosdhfuashdh | /set/quit |
| 06:15.32 | gnudna | can you pastebin the output of vgdisplay and lvdisplay somewhere? |
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| 06:16.05 | martukas | the only reason I got into this LV business is because I got mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member' when I tried to mount the decrypted thing |
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| 06:16.23 | martukas | k give me a few minutes :) |
| 06:16.56 | gnudna | k although to be honest im not familiar with LUKS |
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| 06:20.02 | gnudna | brb smoke break |
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| 06:28.07 | shape | Does anyone know what might happen if I try to ssh from my android phone (busybox) to my Debian desktop and try to run firefox? |
| 06:28.38 | martukas | http://pastebin.com/nTf8kAGV |
| 06:29.45 | martukas | yah this thing got me reaching for that nicotine too... |
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| 06:30.37 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | shape: if X is already running and you had your variables and stuff set up it might run |
| 06:30.50 | peterrooney | shape: if you remember the -X, it should display on your phone. if you leave that out it should complain unless you feed firefox an appropriate DISPLAY environment value. |
| 06:31.46 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | uh |
| 06:31.46 | shape | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI: if X is already running on my phone you mean or on the host computer? |
| 06:31.59 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | I don't think android has X |
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| 06:32.05 | shape | It doesn't |
| 06:32.22 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | well then it wouldn't show up on the phone at all |
| 06:32.40 | peterrooney | someone's got a mostly working implementation |
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| 06:33.16 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | unless you managed to get a terminal open in that X session on the android device to ssh -X in, then you might be able to get firefox |
| 06:33.19 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | but otherwise no |
| 06:33.39 | shape | However you can run terminal stuff for sure, I just tried irssi from a free shell |
| 06:33.52 | shape | but for GUI stuff I'd have to actually set Open SSH, that's why i asked first |
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| 06:34.58 | shape | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI: peterrooney Thanks for the info btw! |
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| 06:37.56 | gnudna | martukas, is this disk attached as a second drive? |
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| 06:40.48 | martukas | yes both are images mounted by vbox the one i am after is 20gb total with 8gb partition, thats how i know its the sdb |
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| 06:42.13 | gnudna | sdb doesn't seem to be an lvm partition according to what you pasted |
| 06:42.49 | gnudna | sda has an lvm parition not sdb |
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| 06:45.40 | martukas | sudo mount /dev/mapper/encrypto1 /media/whatever results in mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member' and subsequently pvs says /dev/mapper/encrypto1 xubuntu lvm2 a-- 7.75g 32.00m |
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| 06:46.27 | bluesm | What this mean "export $(dbus-launch) |
| 06:46.28 | bluesm | ? |
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| 06:47.43 | bluesm | To circumvent this problem try the following command (with Linux and bash) |
| 06:47.43 | bluesm | export $(dbus-launch) |
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| 06:48.15 | gnudna | i think your issues is you have 2 lvm groups with same name |
| 06:48.40 | gnudna | vgdisplay should show the encrypto1 |
| 06:49.01 | spm_Draget | If I install the debian 7 RC and update along, will I end up with the same packages/system of debian 7 final? Or is there anyting special about the update-path? |
| 06:49.35 | gnudna | try mounting it mount /dev/xubuntu/encrypto1 /media/sdir |
| 06:50.26 | gnudna | i have seen something similar happen on a dual boot system |
| 06:51.51 | histo | spm_Draget: same packages |
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| 06:52.40 | gnudna | also make sure fstab is not messed up aka pointing to the right partition and not the group only |
| 06:52.44 | spm_Draget | I guess I will go for wheeze then directly. If I find minor things I can still report them. And I wil end up with the stable system =) |
| 06:53.00 | martukas | where is fstab? |
| 06:53.13 | gnudna | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:53.28 | martukas | what should it say? |
| 06:53.38 | gnudna | but modify only if you know what to do or else you will mess up your entire system badly |
| 06:53.53 | gnudna | paste it and i can look quickly |
| 06:54.16 | gnudna | fstab can be different depnding on the system |
| 06:54.24 | gnudna | and how it was installed |
| 06:55.11 | asciiker | hello, can anyone tell my why GRUB is ignoring the changes I make directly to /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?? |
| 06:55.32 | martukas | looks ok pointing to mapper/xubuntu-root and xub-swap |
| 06:55.41 | bluesm | What are .save files ? |
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| 06:55.57 | martukas | hm |
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| 06:56.35 | martukas | is there any way to change those lvm group names at/before boot or some such? |
| 06:57.07 | gnudna | i think vgrename but it has been a while |
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| 06:58.15 | gnudna | i belive its vgrename oldname newname |
| 06:58.24 | gnudna | i would google to be sure |
| 06:58.37 | asciiker | none likes grub eh.... |
| 06:59.01 | gnudna | what are you adding to grub |
| 06:59.17 | gnudna | maybe it's invalid hence it is ignored |
| 06:59.26 | asciiker | hello gnudna, I just need to switch linux-image on a remote server |
| 06:59.29 | gnudna | debian uses grub2 last i checked |
| 06:59.32 | asciiker | I have them both |
| 06:59.46 | martukas | ok different approach - this will sound really dumb - if i can boot into that drive in recovery mode how would i go about getting a couple files out of it without involving vbox shared folders? |
| 06:59.49 | asciiker | right now I have xen kernel loaded, I want to revert to the original debian one |
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| 07:00.31 | asciiker | gnuda: perhaps it is invalid, but I can't see it boot nor can I break it :) |
| 07:00.44 | histo | martukas: mount an external drive or network share and copy the files out. |
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| 07:01.41 | gnudna | asciiker, hold on let me look on my system it has been a while i needed to mess with grub |
| 07:02.36 | gnudna | do you know where it is listed in the menu entry the kernel you want to load? |
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| 07:03.52 | gnudna | if you do and remember the count starts at zero you would need to modify the line at the top set default="0" |
| 07:05.30 | gnudna | to something like 1 or 2 depending on the menuentry count |
| 07:06.02 | gnudna | example on my system i would need to select 2 in order to boot default debian instead of backports kernel that i am using |
| 07:06.09 | martukas | ok thank you all, time to reboot and try something else |
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| 07:10.40 | gnudna | asciiker, just remember if it fails to boot you stuck |
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| 07:13.39 | gnudna | asciiker, no ipmi on your server? |
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| 07:14.51 | asciiker | gnuda: can you confirm grub2? grub-install -v |
| 07:14.51 | asciiker | grub-install (GRUB) 1.98+20100804-14+squeeze1 |
| 07:15.37 | asciiker | gnudna: that's just it... I change the default="0" but it still boots to the xen kernel |
| 07:15.41 | asciiker | makes no sense |
| 07:16.19 | asciiker | what is ipmi ? |
| 07:16.27 | gnudna | should be set default="0" in grub2 |
| 07:16.56 | asciiker | what should? |
| 07:17.02 | asciiker | not following.... |
| 07:17.47 | asciiker | first few lines say: |
| 07:17.48 | asciiker | ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ### |
| 07:17.48 | asciiker | if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then |
| 07:17.48 | asciiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:17.48 | asciiker | fi |
| 07:17.48 | asciiker | set default="0" |
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| 07:18.03 | histo | lol |
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| 07:18.52 | gnudna | right under than i have set default="0 |
| 07:18.59 | gnudna | right under than i have set default="0" |
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| 07:19.59 | relipse | I setup a linode and i got a webserver and stuff setup and i got php mail() working, but how do i add/remove mail accounts (I just installed postfix but it doesnt seem to be working) |
| 07:20.08 | asciiker | I was kicked |
| 07:20.13 | phix | hey, I want to use memcached from within LXC guests, should I run it on the host and configure the guests to use it or configure it on all guests? |
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| 07:26.50 | gnudna | phix, we use it at work and we have some cases where the memcache runs locally |
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| 07:29.53 | phix | gnudna: hmmm, but that doesn't really answer my question, should guest LXCs on the same host use the hosts memcached or run their own instances of it? |
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| 07:31.52 | gnudna | i guess depends what your trying to accomplish phix. are all the hosts for example webservers? same content etc... |
| 07:33.49 | truexfan81 | anyone else run a hybrid DE on their debian? |
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| 07:35.21 | histo | hybrid de? |
| 07:35.45 | truexfan81 | yeah in my case i'm running xfce with the kde window decorator |
| 07:36.01 | amit` | Does ubuntu offer support for drivers and peripherals on AMD A10-5800k APU? |
| 07:36.13 | truexfan81 | amit`: try #ubuntu |
| 07:36.37 | histo | amit`: paid support? |
| 07:37.49 | amit` | histo: No, not paid , i meant if drivers for GPU , audio are included in the latest ubuntu distro. |
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| 07:38.54 | amit` | histo: It seems like GPU drivers have dependencies which have to be installed for that driver to work on debian squeeze. |
| 07:39.00 | histo | amit`: they are not included by default in ubuntu however in 12.04 there is System Settings > Hardware and in 12.10+ there is System Settings > Software Sources > Hardware to assist users in installing proper drivers |
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| 07:39.57 | amit` | Is there a way get rid of stalkers who have backing of the president? |
| 07:40.04 | amit` | to* |
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| 07:40.49 | histo | dpkg: tell amit` about ati |
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| 07:41.37 | ws2k3 | is there a command i can make a file emty? |
| 07:41.49 | ws2k3 | wouthing having to remove recreate and chmod the file again? |
| 07:42.01 | histo | ws2k3: echo "" > somefile |
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| 07:42.49 | bluesm | Can I remove all .ogg file without say 0.ogg file ? with "rm" command ? |
| 07:42.51 | kaste | ws2k3 man truncate |
| 07:43.15 | jpw | bluesm: find ./ -name *.ogg | xargs rm |
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| 07:43.52 | jpw | careful now that acts recursuvely |
| 07:44.23 | histo | jpw: that will remove the 0.ogg file as well |
| 07:44.34 | jpw | sorry i just realised that i misunderstood |
| 07:44.43 | histo | perhaps he needs to clarify |
| 07:44.50 | kaste | histo: push in a grep -v '^0.ogg$' in the middle |
| 07:44.50 | histo | bluesm: do you mean all but the 0.ogg ? |
| 07:45.51 | amit` | I have a 2.5 inch 1Tb hdd which can be used in a desktop machine. Any suggestions as to the reliability of 2.5 vs 3.5 Sata 3/6 drives for use in desktop computers? |
| 07:46.09 | histo | amit`: try /j #hardware |
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| 07:47.29 | et | bluesm: 'find . -name '*.ogg' -and -not -name '0.ogg' -and -depth 1 -delete', or use zsh and "rm *.ogg~0.ogg" |
| 07:47.32 | bluesm | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:48.13 | amit` | histo: #hardware is idle at the moment. |
| 07:50.17 | truexfan81 | i stay parked in ##hardware, amit`is correct, its a ghost town at the moment |
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| 07:51.07 | amit` | truexfan81: #hardware is very active during the day. its midnight now. |
| 07:51.28 | histo | amit`: All hard drives fail to answer your question |
| 07:51.47 | histo | No you don't need ot wait |
| 07:51.51 | histo | s/ot/to/ |
| 07:51.57 | histo | s/No/Now/ |
| 07:51.59 | histo | jesus |
| 07:52.17 | amit` | histo: Hitach is good , they never fail usually. |
| 07:52.18 | truexfan81 | histo: its ok, we all have trouble typing at this late hour :) |
| 07:52.28 | amit` | Hitachi* |
| 07:52.55 | histo | amit`: All harddrives will fail eventually |
| 07:53.00 | gnudna | tell that to ibm when they had those 40gig deskstars failing |
| 07:53.06 | histo | amit`: doesn't matter who makes them. |
| 07:53.28 | gnudna | sadly my over priced ssd failed 15 min ago |
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| 07:53.43 | truexfan81 | ^ |
| 07:53.47 | amit` | histo: Now , it seems like all HDD oems are almost the same. I've heard of WD failing compared to seagate or hitachi from other folks. |
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| 07:54.07 | truexfan81 | amit`: some will last for years, other can be doa, some might last a month and then fail |
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| 07:54.53 | amit` | truexfan81: Their manufacturing processs might eliminate defective harddrives. Probably all are the same after they come out of factory. |
| 07:55.10 | histo | amit`: You're not listening |
| 07:55.14 | truexfan81 | i have a 7year old 200GB WD 200GB hdd that is still working lol its in my server machine |
| 07:55.15 | gnudna | i find newer drives are crappy in general |
| 07:55.30 | truexfan81 | err oops |
| 07:55.33 | gnudna | i still got some old 8gig ide that still runs |
| 07:55.36 | truexfan81 | i put 200GB twice lol |
| 07:55.50 | kaste | gnudna: that's somewhat due to the higher speeds |
| 07:55.52 | amit` | truexfan81: That is believable |
| 07:56.48 | gnudna | good to know i never use the 8gig more as a book holder on my shel so the books do not tip over ;) |
| 07:57.12 | truexfan81 | i have a 2TB wd green drive that developed i think 1 bad sector after only 6months, i replaced it with a 2TB hitachi deskstar |
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| 07:58.31 | amit` | truexfan81: I thought of getting 1 or 2 TB WD green but considered Hitachi. |
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| 07:59.00 | amit` | truexfan81: Are you familiar with seagate barracuda sata 6 drives? |
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| 07:59.41 | truexfan81 | sata 6? wow i'm still using sata 2 lol |
| 07:59.58 | bluesm | adb stands for "android debug tool" what the "am" command mean ? |
| 08:00.02 | bluesm | android ... m ? |
| 08:00.06 | amit` | oops , sata 3 - 6gbps |
| 08:01.16 | bluesm | sorry. |
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| 08:01.50 | truexfan81 | amit`: i'm trying to find you the model number of my hitachi hdd, its been running happy for about 2.5 years |
| 08:02.13 | truexfan81 | if this machine was running linux i could get it with a simple command to inxi lol |
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| 08:03.12 | truexfan81 | amit`: HDS723020BLA |
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| 08:04.27 | amit` | truexfan81: This product is discontinued |
| 08:04.35 | jpw | amit`: truexfan81: would you mind taking your hard drive discussion elsewhere. It's not debian enough for #debian. |
| 08:04.36 | truexfan81 | sux |
| 08:04.49 | truexfan81 | jpw: sure no problem |
| 08:04.54 | jpw | thank you |
| 08:05.06 | truexfan81 | amit`: lets liven up ##hardware |
| 08:05.21 | amit` | truexfan81: I'm too tired and have to sleep soon. |
| 08:05.38 | truexfan81 | ok good night then |
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| 08:05.56 | truexfan81 | jpw: ^ its over :) |
| 08:06.30 | truexfan81 | so anyway no one answered my DE question |
| 08:07.17 | jpw | truexfan81: i missed it could you repeat it. |
| 08:07.23 | histo | truexfan81: you should have asked your real question |
| 08:07.46 | truexfan81 | histo: it was the real question lol i'm not having any issues with it |
| 08:08.12 | amit` | good nighte |
| 08:08.16 | amit` | night* |
| 08:08.24 | truexfan81 | jpw: i simply asked if anyone else was running a hybrid DE on debian |
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| 08:08.45 | jpw | truexfan81: you mean like running gtk apps in kde? |
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| 08:09.06 | truexfan81 | jpw: in my case i'm running xfce with the kde window decorator/compositor |
| 08:09.52 | truexfan81 | i love how the kde compositor kills the flash video tearing :) |
| 08:10.17 | jpw | eew flash |
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| 08:10.30 | truexfan81 | i watch a lot of justin.tv streams |
| 08:10.44 | jpw | truexfan81: its not possible X can only handle one window manager at a time. |
| 08:11.01 | truexfan81 | jpw: not window manager |
| 08:11.11 | truexfan81 | i'm using the window decorator |
| 08:11.17 | jpw | no but compositors are WM dependant |
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| 08:12.01 | truexfan81 | also with the kde one i like how you can toggle the compositor on and off with a keyboard shortcut |
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| 08:12.18 | jyee | Debian installer doesn't recognise my network card. |
| 08:12.47 | jyee | even the firmware netinstall iso |
| 08:12.56 | truexfan81 | jyee: what network card? |
| 08:13.16 | jyee | Realtek RTL8191 |
| 08:13.34 | truexfan81 | and to help with troubleshooting, does it show up when you run lspci? |
| 08:13.39 | jyee | it's actually a USB dongle |
| 08:13.46 | truexfan81 | ok lsusb then |
| 08:14.09 | jyee | lsusb not found |
| 08:14.23 | jyee | I am on the netinstall iso, I think that's why. |
| 08:14.23 | truexfan81 | 0.0 |
| 08:14.30 | histo | dpkg: tell jyee about firmware |
| 08:14.39 | truexfan81 | i have netinstall on my netbook let me check that |
| 08:14.53 | truexfan81 | its on mine |
| 08:14.54 | histo | dpkg: tell jyee about installer firmware |
| 08:15.33 | jyee | I done it at the console (Alt + F2) |
| 08:15.44 | truexfan81 | do it in terminal |
| 08:16.08 | truexfan81 | it will give you a list, i just want to know if the adapter shows up in that list |
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| 08:16.40 | truexfan81 | also which version of debian? |
| 08:16.48 | jyee | truexfan81: How do I get into the console at the installer? |
| 08:16.50 | jyee | wheezy |
| 08:17.06 | truexfan81 | at the installer? |
| 08:17.30 | jyee | I am trying to install Debian. |
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| 08:17.40 | jpw | jyee: usually press back and select console from the menu that appears. |
| 08:17.48 | truexfan81 | ^ |
| 08:17.50 | jyee | okay |
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| 08:18.39 | histo | jyee: alt+f2 or F3 ... F1 should be text output installer F4 is log output F5 is graphical installer usually |
| 08:19.14 | truexfan81 | yeah if the installer doesn't detect it i'm not sure how to fix it, but hopefully one of the other 1263 people in here will know |
| 08:19.24 | jpw | jyee: is the installer not prompting for a firmware or anything? |
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| 08:20.03 | jyee | jpw: no such thing |
| 08:20.08 | jyee | jpw: nope |
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| 08:20.45 | jyee | lsusb command doesn't work |
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| 08:22.15 | truexfan81 | jyee: is there any way you can get the wheezy live dvd and see if the adapter works? |
| 08:22.45 | jyee | truexfan81: would take 2 hours to download |
| 08:23.01 | jpw | jyee: interesting. i've not installed wheezy yet but I have a Realtek RTL8111 and I needed to provide squeeze installer with firmware-realtek on a USB drive. I suggest downloading CD1 rather than netinst and hope that the larger package detects the interface. |
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| 08:23.23 | jyee | jpw: thanks, I will try that |
| 08:23.34 | jyee | but, I only have 1 USB drive |
| 08:23.42 | jyee | no optical drive... |
| 08:24.00 | jyee | Could I put the firmware on the same USB I am to install? |
| 08:24.42 | jpw | jyee: erk... you could try. but it would become iso9660 formatted and probably read-only. |
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| 08:25.52 | jyee | jpw: if I put the file on it afterwards |
| 08:26.06 | jyee | and made sure the permissions were fine in Windows which I am using right now |
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| 08:26.33 | jpw | jyee: I don't know you'd need to try. |
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| 08:27.31 | susy2 | ciao |
| 08:27.33 | susy2 | !list |
| 08:27.34 | dpkg | susy2: Debian è un sistema operativo composto di software libero non quella gratis. Vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per sapere di più. |
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| 08:32.13 | jyee | Any iso I can download to get this to work? |
| 08:33.04 | jyee | there is no way I can install the needed packages without an internet connection? |
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| 08:33.47 | m0ksha | I'm trying to mount an NFS share which is a mounted USB drive from another computer on my LAN. I've managed to get it to work but the permissions are strange and it causes problems sometimes e.g. with transmission of if I try to move files with the local GUI. What is the correct way to set this up/permissions? Thanks. |
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| 08:34.07 | jpw | jyee: yes CD1. once debian is installed you can provide the firmware to get the interface functioning. |
| 08:34.25 | jyee | good idea |
| 08:34.32 | m0ksha | both machines are running wheezy btw |
| 08:34.33 | phix | m0ksha: hmmm using nfs for that purpose is a bad idea |
| 08:34.52 | m0ksha | phix: what is a better alternative? |
| 08:35.02 | phix | nfs requires both sidea to have the same uid/gid mappin |
| 08:35.08 | phix | samba |
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| 08:35.21 | phix | ftp over fuse |
| 08:35.22 | m0ksha | phix i made it so that both sides have the same uid |
| 08:35.50 | m0ksha | with usermod |
| 08:35.55 | phix | oh, then it shoulld work fine, you just might run into looking issues |
| 08:36.06 | phix | locking* |
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| 08:36.39 | jpw | m0ksha: is security an issue? if not read the man pages for the all_squash, anonuid, anongid sections. This will fix your permissions issues. |
| 08:37.28 | jpw | m0ksha: i mean `man exports' |
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| 08:38.12 | jyee | jpw: Will I not have to connect to a network in the Debian squeeze CDs? |
| 08:38.26 | m0ksha | jpw, thanks |
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| 08:39.13 | l_r | hello |
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| 08:39.23 | jpw | jyee: no CD1 contains everything to get a functioning system. If you are not comfortable in the CLI and need a GUI you will need a few more. But CD1 will get you in to a state where you can install the firmwares, get internet access and install subsequant packages you may want. |
| 08:39.25 | l_r | is there a way to give a process a real time scheduling priority from outside the process not via the set_scheduler() system call? |
| 08:40.10 | yeheyuan | nice |
| 08:40.18 | truexfan81 | l_r: you mean like renice? |
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| 08:44.35 | l_r | truexfan81, no |
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| 08:44.46 | l_r | nice does not do that |
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| 08:44.58 | l_r | it just change the prority |
| 08:45.08 | l_r | i need to change the scheduling policy |
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| 08:45.42 | yeheyuan | void |
| 08:45.49 | jpw | l_r: you're aware that for real time processing you need a realtime kernel? |
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| 08:47.22 | l_r | jpw, soft real time |
| 08:47.26 | l_r | not hard |
| 08:47.32 | l_r | linux is enough |
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| 08:49.45 | jpw | l_r: i can't really give support as i've never done it but as a lead look up the `chrt' program. |
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| 08:51.02 | enyc | Hrrm... packages.debian.org seems to be not updating properly? e.g. packages.debian.org/linux-source-3.2 showing old version for wheezy? |
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| 08:52.48 | l_r | jpw, oh thx,that's it |
| 08:52.51 | crashev | hello, I wonder which repository is better/more stable, better supported for nginx - nginx.org/packages/debian OR http://backports.debian.org/ ? |
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| 08:53.47 | truexfan81 | someone correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe backports are generally less stable |
| 08:54.39 | jpw | truexfan81: at this stage in the release cycle i'd say backports is pretty stable. |
| 08:54.56 | truexfan81 | ok :) |
| 08:54.57 | daemonkeeper | Usual conditions apply. |
| 08:56.09 | jpw | crashev: can you elaborate what you need? do you need a specific feature hence the newer version? else the squeeze package should be your go-to choice. |
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| 08:57.06 | crashev | jpw: I would like to have up-2-date stable version,so I suppose nginx.org will always provide that and backports.debian will not right ? |
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| 08:59.01 | histo | crashev: you need to read about how the security team etc.. works |
| 08:59.04 | jpw | crashev: backports will provide 'safe' packages that can be upgraded/removed cleanly as per debian policies. I cannot couch for the nginx repository. I personally copile nginx myself as I like having the bleeding edge version too. |
| 08:59.20 | jpw | s/couch/vouch/ |
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| 08:59.27 | histo | If it aint broke don't fix it |
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| 09:04.49 | jpw | is there anything I can do to make my system a bit quieter. since I've reinstalled my fans are going full pelt. |
| 09:05.02 | jpw | its starting to get a bit irritatin.g |
| 09:05.23 | truexfan81 | unplug them? just kidding don't do that |
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| 09:05.50 | jpw | ;p |
| 09:06.05 | jpw | on closer inspection it could be my gpu fans |
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| 09:06.22 | jpw | guess im going to have to install fglrx :( |
| 09:06.33 | truexfan81 | yeah that might do it |
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| 09:06.53 | truexfan81 | its 4am, time for bed, cya later |
| 09:06.57 | jpw | bb |
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| 09:08.20 | pclov3r | I for the life of me cannot get a sis191 NIc working |
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| 09:08.23 | pclov3r | Yes the driver is loading |
| 09:08.27 | pclov3r | and yes it's configured correctly |
| 09:08.33 | pclov3r | it just reufses to pass traffic |
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| 09:08.57 | jpw | pclov3r: is it appearing in `ip link'? |
| 09:09.05 | pclov3r | it should |
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| 09:09.14 | pclov3r | shows up in ifconfig without a problem |
| 09:09.19 | pclov3r | ip route shows it being fine |
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| 09:09.23 | pclov3r | what else? |
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| 09:10.16 | jpw | pclov3r: could you paste the results of: ip a; ip l; ip r? |
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| 09:10.24 | lolcat | can debian be hasslefree be installed to a raid1? |
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| 09:11.01 | pclov3r | one second |
| 09:11.40 | jpw | lolcat: can you rephrase your question please. |
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| 09:13.35 | jpw | pclov3r: also iptables-save |
| 09:13.45 | lolcat | Can the debian installer setup a raid one and install to it? |
| 09:14.20 | jpw | lolcat: I think it can configure software raid1 using lvm and install to that. |
| 09:14.28 | lolcat | I don |
| 09:14.35 | lolcat | I don't understand what lvm is |
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| 09:14.42 | lolcat | Do I need it, do I want it? |
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| 09:14.52 | lolcat | Is it a filesystem? |
| 09:15.31 | histo | lolcat: you want it you don't need it. |
| 09:15.43 | lolcat | What is it? |
| 09:15.44 | jpw | dpkg: tell lolcat about lvm |
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| 09:16.44 | pclov3r | hang on a minute |
| 09:16.48 | pclov3r | i see a possible problem |
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| 09:17.53 | lolcat | Should I use mdadm and lvm or just lvm? |
| 09:18.06 | lolcat | Should my raid5 have lvm? |
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| 09:21.21 | phix | hey, what is a good imap proxy? (basically I have three IMAP servers with unique mailboxes on them, I want a way to combine them together / use one IP address to access all mailboxes accross three IMAP servers) |
| 09:22.37 | phix | I am using cyrus, I considering setting up murder however from what I can tell it requires a single master process to always be available, my three sites are connected via VPN so they may drop out, if they drop out I still want the other mailboxes to be accessible |
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| 09:24.55 | pclov3r | here we go |
| 09:24.57 | pclov3r | Don't seem to have all the variables for eth0/inet. |
| 09:24.58 | pclov3r | Failed to bring up eth0. |
| 09:25.01 | pclov3r | any ideas now? |
| 09:25.23 | jpw | pclov3r: could you show me your /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 09:26.32 | jpw | phix: is it really the end of the world to have to set up 3 mailboxes in your client? |
| 09:26.36 | pclov3r | http://pastebin.com/8kgK77Um i have eht1 setup like that as I am trying to move an install to a headless system |
| 09:26.42 | pclov3r | the HP media smart to be exact |
| 09:26.45 | pclov3r | that has no montior port |
| 09:26.48 | jpw | phix: what your describing sounds like a recipe for disaster. |
| 09:28.01 | pclov3r | anything wrong with my config file? |
| 09:28.55 | jpw | pclov3r: http://pastebin.com/HX4j7yc2 - modify and use that |
| 09:28.57 | icarious | is there an ongoing consideration to scrap off the non-free section in Debian? |
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| 09:29.42 | pclov3r | i'll give it a shot |
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| 09:31.56 | jpw | pclov3r: also, how are you bringing up the interface? are you uing the ifup / ifdown commands? |
| 09:32.09 | pclov3r | bild with a keyboard |
| 09:32.14 | pclov3r | and tuahn mvoing it back to another system |
| 09:32.22 | pclov3r | HP medismart has no vga port on it |
| 09:32.50 | jpw | pclov3r: oh i see - you're building an image |
| 09:32.58 | pclov3r | trying to |
| 09:33.01 | pclov3r | it works fine |
| 09:33.03 | pclov3r | expcet for networking |
| 09:33.08 | jpw | pclov3r: has it got serial on it? |
| 09:33.14 | pclov3r | it has usb |
| 09:33.16 | pclov3r | thats about it |
| 09:33.23 | jpw | hmm ok never mind. |
| 09:33.31 | pclov3r | is there a way to pipe commands over usb |
| 09:33.37 | pclov3r | like tty over usb? |
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| 09:34.14 | jpw | the usbSX interfaces won't exist at the time you need to activate them so no. |
| 09:34.15 | phix | jpw: I am using webmail from a single server, I want all users from all imapsever to beable to use it |
| 09:34.43 | phix | in particular, the webmail system does calendar and shared address books (SOGo) |
| 09:35.10 | jpw | not horde - please not horde. |
| 09:35.17 | phix | SOGo |
| 09:35.30 | phix | that is what i am using |
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| 09:36.10 | tapout | i've got processes running that I don't want to die when windows 8 forces a reboot in 3 minutes (can't postpone it). I didn't screen these, anyway to keep the pids going after I get forced to reboot? |
| 09:36.16 | pclov3r | ok |
| 09:36.20 | pclov3r | trying with new config |
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| 09:37.07 | jpw | good luck |
| 09:37.27 | pclov3r | oh oops |
| 09:37.31 | pclov3r | 192.168.1.14 |
| 09:37.35 | pclov3r | alreacy exists on my netowrk |
| 09:37.38 | pclov3r | time to pick a differnt ip |
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| 09:38.21 | jpw | phix: So, SOGO connects to an IMAP proxy and you want to configure that proxy on a per-user basis? i'm trying to imagine what your trying to accomplish. |
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| 09:44.09 | pclov3r | nope |
| 09:44.12 | pclov3r | that failed |
| 09:44.13 | pclov3r | failed |
| 09:44.16 | pclov3r | i sitll have no network |
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| 09:45.13 | barhom | Can somebody explain why my loading is still showing 0.00 0.00 0.00 even though all my CPUs is at about 30-40% load? (E3-1270v2 Xeon) |
| 09:45.33 | barhom | I need to find a proper way to get a percentage of overall CPU utlization |
| 09:45.52 | pclov3r | i've tired to get netowrking working for 12 hours now |
| 09:45.53 | pclov3r | should i give up? |
| 09:46.35 | barhom | pclov3r: never give up |
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| 09:48.51 | gnarface | barhom: i've seen such behavior with certain virtualization systems |
| 09:49.06 | pclov3r | seems to be the same problem |
| 09:49.09 | pclov3r | any ideas? |
| 09:49.30 | gnarface | barhom: maybe your cpu cycles are being taken up by guest virtual servers and your monitoring tool isn't aware of them? |
| 09:49.37 | barhom | gnarface: Im not virtualising at all |
| 09:49.51 | barhom | and its not like loading isn't changing from 0.00 |
| 09:49.52 | gnarface | barhom: sorry that was my only guess |
| 09:49.57 | barhom | if I do some IO task it goes up |
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| 09:50.07 | barhom | my current CPU tasks doesn't touch disk |
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| 09:50.52 | pclov3r | I guess i have to give up |
| 09:50.56 | pclov3r | it's not going to work |
| 09:51.08 | pclov3r | 12 hours is long enough |
| 09:51.22 | barhom | whats the issue? |
| 09:51.29 | pclov3r | network wont come up |
| 09:51.41 | pclov3r | started with centos and that failed |
| 09:51.46 | pclov3r | debain is fialing to as well it seems |
| 09:51.53 | pclov3r | but at-least it gives an error |
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| 09:52.04 | barhom | if you've trailed 2 distress and your network isn't going up then the problem seems easy |
| 09:52.09 | barhom | your network card is broken |
| 09:52.13 | barhom | *distros |
| 09:52.20 | barhom | wtf, where did distress come from |
| 09:52.27 | pclov3r | the NIC works fine |
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| 09:52.28 | pclov3r | with windows |
| 09:52.32 | pclov3r | so its' a driver rpboem |
| 09:52.34 | pclov3r | problem |
| 09:52.36 | jpw | pclov3r: my last suggestion is to remove the mtu |
| 09:52.47 | pclov3r | and if thast fails? |
| 09:52.48 | jpw | and let it auto-negotiate |
| 09:52.51 | pclov3r | i guess i'm out of luck |
| 09:53.02 | barhom | pclov3r: is it some add-in card or motherboard? |
| 09:53.10 | jpw | jpw without more information, logs etc i wont be of much help. |
| 09:53.12 | pclov3r | motherboard |
| 09:53.20 | barhom | did you google that motherboard and linux? |
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| 09:53.24 | pclov3r | yes |
| 09:53.27 | barhom | any issues? |
| 09:53.31 | pclov3r | lots of problems it appears |
| 09:53.36 | pclov3r | the chip is Sis 191 |
| 09:53.48 | barhom | is it a laptop? |
| 09:54.00 | pclov3r | no |
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| 09:54.13 | barhom | Id go buy another network card for 10USD, but thats me |
| 09:54.47 | barhom | If you're telling me that motherboard/nic has problems with linux for some reason since you googled it then thats the easiest approach |
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| 09:55.12 | tapout | how can I skip 5 lines in every file, without having the line count? |
| 09:55.24 | pclov3r | I guess |
| 09:55.31 | pclov3r | i'll have to use windows server than |
| 09:55.32 | barhom | what does it tell you when you try to "ifup eth0" ? |
| 09:56.03 | pclov3r | not all the varables or some shit |
| 09:56.06 | pclov3r | oops cusing |
| 09:56.28 | pclov3r | hang on a second let me get some ifocnfig output |
| 09:56.29 | pclov3r | ifconfig |
| 09:57.03 | barhom | put a static IP of some random 192.168.0.x in interfaces and try to start eth0 |
| 09:57.25 | jpw | tapout: please rephrase your question |
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| 09:57.51 | barhom | tapout: tail -n +X "$FILE" |
| 09:57.55 | tapout | jpw, i don't know how many lines are in the file.. I want to skip the first 5 lines |
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| 09:58.15 | tapout | oh neat, lemme try that thank you |
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| 09:58.19 | jpw | tapout: see barhom response |
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| 09:58.26 | pclov3r | if htis doens't work |
| 09:58.31 | pclov3r | i guess i'll have to use windows server |
| 09:59.02 | jpw | pclov3r: enjoy the bloat :) |
| 09:59.06 | tapout | beautiful |
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| 10:03.53 | pclov3r | how hard is it to setup a wirelss cartd |
| 10:03.56 | pclov3r | card in the cli? |
| 10:04.00 | pclov3r | so i can get some networking going |
| 10:04.04 | pclov3r | to try and bring up eth0 |
| 10:04.06 | pclov3r | good idea? |
| 10:07.25 | jpw | wireless isn't too hard is your wireless network wep or wpa? |
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| 10:07.59 | penguin1 | I want to start a lxcontainer as a service (like e.g. apache or mysql) |
| 10:08.01 | penguin1 | it is on a debian system, can I start it as a service? (/etc/init.d/... start|restart|stop|...) |
| 10:08.19 | pclov3r | wpa2 |
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| 10:11.26 | jpw | pclov3r: in that case install wireless-tools and wpasupplicant then put this in your interfaces.... http://paste.debian.net/249458/ |
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| 10:12.51 | pclov3r | of cource |
| 10:12.55 | pclov3r | my wirless card isnt' deceted |
| 10:13.08 | pclov3r | it's a Ralink chipset |
| 10:13.18 | penguin1 | I want a software radio :( |
| 10:13.20 | pclov3r | [Ralink RT3070 lsusb says |
| 10:13.48 | jpw | pclov3r: d'oh |
| 10:14.05 | pclov3r | it looks like i can add a non-free repositoy for it |
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| 10:14.28 | jpw | pclov3r: indeed - it's probably just missing firmware. |
| 10:14.37 | ompaul | pclov3r: install this firmware-ralink (repo non-free) |
| 10:15.27 | pclov3r | I am so use |
| 10:15.29 | pclov3r | to rpm based lol |
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| 10:16.02 | ompaul | pclov3r: well in that case everything you know is wrong ;-) |
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| 10:17.59 | jpw | im off to a farmers market laters all. good luck pclov3r.. |
| 10:18.17 | pclov3r | eh |
| 10:18.21 | pclov3r | that firmweare didnt' work |
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| 10:19.31 | cuken | Hello all, I'm trying to create a headless debian server running virtual box, and I'm not sure on how to go about adding in new drives and having them be dedicated to a vm |
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| 10:21.13 | pclov3r | i am done with linux on this |
| 10:21.17 | pclov3r | the driver sucks |
| 10:21.21 | pclov3r | and justisn't going to work |
| 10:21.29 | pclov3r | i guess i have to use windows |
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| 10:22.24 | ompaul | pclov3r: have you rebooted, b t w threatening to use windows gets you called a blackmailer even if that is not the intention and watch the help disappear |
| 10:22.50 | pclov3r | i use linux on several machines |
| 10:22.56 | pclov3r | but i've tired for over 13 hours now |
| 10:23.00 | pclov3r | to get netowrking working |
| 10:23.32 | pclov3r | Just the nic has very bad linux support i guess |
| 10:23.52 | ompaul | conversation - no further input |
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| 10:24.11 | ompaul | rants not welcome, effort is |
| 10:24.22 | pclov3r | i have put effort in alot of it |
| 10:24.24 | pclov3r | jsut very annoied |
| 10:24.31 | pclov3r | anyways ignore me now |
| 10:24.45 | ompaul | your wish is my command |
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| 10:27.53 | cuken | if I attach a new Hard Drive to a debian headless server do I need to manually mount it? |
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| 10:42.11 | histo | pclov3r: what kind of machine is it? |
| 10:42.24 | scx | hello |
| 10:42.55 | scx | i have problem with fonts (Unicode) |
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| 10:43.11 | scx | i got something like this: |
| 10:43.13 | scx | http://browsershots.org/screenshots/674708cdf67d29a5e81fecc83b111fe3 |
| 10:43.26 | scx | instead of: http://browsershots.org/screenshots/df5da28860195d6a4e1b85d62f15b1a6 |
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| 10:44.13 | scx | i installed msttcorefonts, but still have problems with unusual chars |
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| 10:44.53 | scx | original site: http://graphemica.com/%E1%B4%A5 |
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| 10:55.34 | _bart | So another day trying to configure munin. Let's say I have server1 and server2. Yesterday I configured server1, and it's up and running with nice little graphs. But now I'd like to add server2 to the same stats page on server1. (so adding just a node). I just did that, created a ssh tunnel to route the remote 4949 to the local 4950, and set the node port to 4950 on server1. But nothing is showing up. The munin-node.log on server2 only shows Bindi |
| 10:55.35 | _bart | to TCP port 4949 on host 127.0.0.1, and nothing more (even after 10 minutes). The server1 munin-node.log only shows the server1 node connecting: CONNECT TCP Peer: "127.0.0.1:49445" Local: "127.0.0.1:4949" |
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| 10:56.30 | _bart | So now I have two questions. How do I check the ssh tunnel is in place, and did I configure the munin node correctly? (judging from the logs) |
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| 10:58.26 | format_c | _bart, netstat -tnp |
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| 10:58.44 | format_c | You'd see the established TCP connection |
| 10:59.03 | PerfDave | Hi all, I'm using virt-manager and having trouble adding an empty VG because it doesn't seem to have a /dev node |
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| 10:59.48 | _bart | format_c: thanks, I see there's no ssh tunnel, like I suspected |
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| 11:00.38 | _bart | format_c: On server1 I'm running this sudo autossh -M -f -L 4950:server2:4949 bart@server2 |
| 11:00.42 | _bart | format_c: is that correct? |
| 11:01.05 | _bart | sudo netstat -tnp |grep 4949 turns out blank after I do that |
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| 11:01.51 | PerfDave | ssh as root for tunnels? Ick. |
| 11:02.58 | _bart | ah I can see this is messed up |
| 11:03.14 | _bart | I should make sure the minun node is not in root, then a user ssh tunnel will do |
| 11:03.51 | xand | if it's just a tunnel it shouldn't matter |
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| 11:04.32 | _bart | Hmmkay, but still, with or without sudo, it does not show up in netstat -tnp |
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| 11:05.08 | _bart | "Cannot fork into background without a command to execute." ah that's something |
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| 11:06.11 | PerfDave | Can somebody tell me how to get the /dev node for an empty LVM volume group, to feed to virt-manager? |
| 11:06.57 | histo | PerfDave: lsblk should show you |
| 11:07.17 | histo | PerfDave: actually blkid |
| 11:08.32 | PerfDave | histo: Those are just showing me the LVs; I need the VG. |
| 11:08.55 | phix | jpw: SOGo supports domains, looks like I have figured this out |
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| 11:09.34 | crashev | does anyone know where can I find libsphinxclient for Debian 6? Can't find it anywhere and it does not seem to be included with official packages. |
| 11:09.37 | histo | PerfDave: isn't there vgdisplay or something |
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| 11:10.01 | PerfDave | histo: THat doesn't give me the information I want. |
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| 11:10.41 | xand | PerfDave: /dev/nameOfVG |
| 11:10.55 | PerfDave | xand: That's only created when the VG has LVs in it. |
| 11:11.14 | xand | maybe there is no such /dev entry then |
| 11:12.18 | histo | PerfDave: how does vgdisplay not give you the info you want |
| 11:12.43 | PerfDave | histo: Because I was looking for a path in /dev and vgdisplay doesn't give me that. |
| 11:12.58 | histo | PerfDave: it will give you the name of the volume group then you will know the path |
| 11:13.01 | PerfDave | bodges by creating a 1MB LV inside the empty VG to get the parent VG node. |
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| 11:13.14 | PerfDave | files a bug in libvirt |
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| 11:13.38 | histo | thinks perfdave is over thinking the issue |
| 11:13.55 | PerfDave | histo: That's nice for you. |
| 11:14.08 | _bart | Turns out I didn't need a ssh tunnel :D |
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| 11:28.06 | r0kis | /amsg Hello guys, I need your help, got a task at university, to make a neclase and make it popular in facebook, so if you dont mind, PLEASE go to http://pieceof.com/products/basket/ and vote for my hand made neclase, I'll be really grateful <3 :) |
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| 11:32.47 | _bart | agh puff, I added /etc/init.d/munin-node start to /etc/rc.local, and now my server does not start after a reboot anymore |
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| 11:39.14 | histo | _bart: why are you adding an init script to rc.local? |
| 11:39.27 | _bart | histo: yes got it removed and now checking the boot log |
| 11:39.34 | Daniel15 | _bart: you're meant to use update-rc.d to make init.d stuff start on startup |
| 11:39.48 | _bart | histo: The init script munin-node was not starting |
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| 11:41.07 | standoo | hello |
| 11:41.18 | histo | dpkg: tell _bart about upstart |
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| 11:43.50 | standoo | i have a question about the users which debian comes preloaded with |
| 11:44.02 | standoo | can i remove all of them except root |
| 11:44.16 | standoo | i have the following on my system: root,daemon,bin,sys,sync,games,man,lp,mail,news,uucp,proxy,www-data,backup,list,irc,gnats,nobody,libuuid,ntp,Debian-exim,sshd,messagebus |
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| 11:44.59 | AimHere | Your system might work without some of those, but really that'll invalidate your warranty, and it is likely to make things break |
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| 11:46.38 | AimHere | Basically, that bit in all your free software licenses about how this product is not claimed to be fit for any particular purpose and you shouldn't sue if it destroys your data or causes your nuclear power station to meltdown, applies ten times over if you start tinkering with stuff like that. |
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| 11:48.20 | PerfDave | standoo: WHat would you be trying to achieve by removing these user accounts? |
| 11:48.37 | standoo | security? |
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| 11:48.48 | PerfDave | Why would it be more secure to remove them? |
| 11:48.55 | AimHere | Some of those accounts are there for security purposes |
| 11:48.59 | standoo | i see |
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| 11:49.04 | standoo | i'll just leave them then |
| 11:49.08 | AimHere | The idea is that they should have no more privileges than absolutely necessary |
| 11:49.09 | PerfDave | Most of them can't be used for user logins. |
| 11:49.23 | standoo | does debian have reserved usernames? |
| 11:49.25 | _bart | Okay a question, I created /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/iptables, and it works when I do sudo: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/iptables but in my boot log it shows: failed to exec /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/iptables: Exec format error |
| 11:49.33 | PerfDave | I mean, it's nice that you're thinking about this, but using low-privilege, non-user accounts can actually improve security. |
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| 11:54.29 | jpw | _bart: does your script have the execute bit set? chmod +x |
| 11:55.05 | _bart | jpw: i turned out I have to replace #!/bin/bash with #!/bin/sh |
| 11:55.11 | _bart | I had* |
| 11:55.19 | _bart | I did set the +x |
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| 11:56.08 | _bart | So there is only one issue left, I did sudo update-rc.d munin-node defaults but it's not started at startup.. :< |
| 11:56.15 | jpw | that's odd considering /bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/bash :/ |
| 11:56.57 | jpw | or dash even... odd. |
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| 11:57.38 | _bart | jpw: I think I probably misspelt it or something, I had indentation, maybe that was it. anyway, it works now |
| 11:57.46 | hogren | Hello ! |
| 11:58.01 | jpw | _bart: kk |
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| 11:59.19 | nyuszika7h | hi, can anyone tell me what is this? |
| 11:59.21 | nyuszika7h | LISTEN 0 128 *:sunrpc *:* ino:10418 sk:ffff88003b910000 |
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| 12:01.40 | jpw | nyuszika7h: where did you see that? |
| 12:01.41 | jelly-home | nyuszika7h: looks like output of netstat or ss! |
| 12:01.51 | nyuszika7h | it's from ss -aer |
| 12:01.59 | nyuszika7h | I mean, what is this service and why is it listening on my server? |
| 12:02.00 | jelly-home | nyuszika7h: add -p to the mix. |
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| 12:02.13 | nyuszika7h | jelly-home: same output |
| 12:02.17 | nyuszika7h | nyuszika7h@cadoth ~ % ss -aepr | grep sunrpc |
| 12:02.19 | nyuszika7h | LISTEN 0 128 *:sunrpc *:* ino:10418 sk:ffff88003b910000 |
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| 12:02.44 | jelly-home | nyuszika7h: do it as root |
| 12:03.07 | nyuszika7h | users:(("portmap",3083,5)) |
| 12:03.17 | jelly-home | there you go. |
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| 12:04.02 | jelly-home | portmap is installed and running; required for nfs and some other stuff |
| 12:04.03 | jpw | ss that's a new command for me |
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| 12:04.03 | nyuszika7h | i lighttpd Depends libfam0 |
| 12:04.06 | nyuszika7h | p fam Depends portmap |
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| 12:04.36 | nyuszika7h | jpw: ss is the new netstat |
| 12:04.57 | jpw | nyuszika7h: news to me! thanks |
| 12:04.59 | nyuszika7h | ifconfig and netstat haven't been updated in a while IIRC, ip and ss are their successors |
| 12:05.13 | nyuszika7h | though you still have ifconfig and netstat, if you install the packages |
| 12:05.20 | jpw | i use ip already its the muts nuts |
| 12:05.49 | jelly-home | bees knees? |
| 12:06.00 | jpw | yeah |
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| 12:07.22 | jpw | what package is ss in on squeeze? |
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| 12:08.09 | babilen | jpw: Try 'apt-file search -x "bin/ss$"' |
| 12:08.15 | nyuszika7h | iproute |
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| 12:08.56 | jpw | aha so it is - needed sudo |
| 12:10.19 | babilen | no, it doesn't - your PATH setting might not include /bin though. I'd change that :) |
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| 12:11.52 | hub2 | Can files inherit permissions from directory in which they are created? |
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| 12:14.54 | jiohdi | hub2, are they created by a user or root? |
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| 12:15.34 | hub2 | jiohdi: by user |
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| 12:16.37 | jiohdi | hub2, I just created an empty doc in a user folder with root and it says that root is the owner, so it seems to depend on who creates it |
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| 12:16.55 | Justus | got a little problem with this tutorial here: http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual-users-domains-postfix-courier-mysql-squirrelmail-debian-lenny-p2 roughly in the middle of this page they create /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf but I can't find where the smtpd.conf is added so that sasl will actually read it, this is in regards to the problem, that on sending mail via smtp the username/password will be rejected because pam doesn't lookup us |
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| 12:17.09 | viliny | YES BUT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO CHANGE OWNER |
| 12:17.14 | viliny | sorry for caps |
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| 12:17.37 | jiohdi | sure, if it was created by root, root can #chown user /file |
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| 12:18.08 | jiohdi | or set permissions in properties in a root file manager so that group has read and write |
| 12:18.13 | Volkswagner | greetings, I'm trying to diagnose why update broke rsyslog or logrotate, or cron... The first config files I see touched on date of update are (/etc/depend.start, depend.stop and depend.boot) |
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| 12:18.57 | Volkswagner | What does depend.start and depend.stop do? Could it hurt the way rsyslog and other services are restarted after logrotate? |
| 12:19.23 | nyuszika7h | nyuszika7h@cadoth ~ % sudo iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.rules |
| 12:19.24 | nyuszika7h | iptables-restore: line 2 failed |
| 12:19.26 | nyuszika7h | http://vpaste.net/AyxOr - any idea? |
| 12:19.59 | hub2 | Yes, but i want to make a file as user with permissons like folder in which file was created |
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| 12:20.31 | jiohdi | hub2, make it from where? a file manger? terminal? another computer? |
| 12:20.36 | solveig | hi all. i just instaled debian to my computer, my win7 partition is not showing in grub. can anyone help me find out of it? i did do $update-grub and rebooted, it did not solve my issue |
| 12:21.04 | jelly-home | solveig: is os-prober package installed? |
| 12:21.31 | jelly-home | solveig: also, ntfs-3g? |
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| 12:21.39 | jiohdi | is win7 partition still there ? |
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| 12:21.59 | hub2 | jiohdi: ssh from text editor |
| 12:22.05 | solveig | jelly-home, os-prober is, im going to check ntfs-3g |
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| 12:22.42 | Volkswagner | here are the contents of /etc/.depends.start and /etc/.depends.stop http://pastebin.com/jkNHWmBX |
| 12:22.56 | solveig | jelly-home, both are installed |
| 12:23.08 | jelly-home | huh |
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| 12:23.17 | jiohdi | hub2, if you are logged in as the user and you use a text editor, it defaults to your defaults, you own the file and group can read and write. |
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| 12:24.13 | jiohdi | hub2, any other ownership arrangements you would have to change in terminal |
| 12:24.24 | jiohdi | or in file manager properties |
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| 12:33.07 | babilen | solveig: Which version of Debian did you install? |
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| 12:33.19 | jpw | Volkswagner: .depend.* is auto generated by insserv for dependency based booting |
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| 12:33.35 | babilen | solveig: Could you run "os-prober" and "update-grub2" and paste the output to http://paste.debian.net ? |
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| 12:33.47 | jpw | Volkswagner: what exactly isn't working? |
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| 12:35.15 | jiohdi | babilen, you have to run os-prober as root, yes? |
| 12:35.30 | babilen | yes |
| 12:35.39 | Volkswagner | jpw, after logrotate runs, syslog does not run properly nor does my mail server (citadel). After rotate syslog logs to syslog.1 and leave an empty syslog file |
| 12:36.20 | Volkswagner | similar to all mail.* and messages logs |
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| 12:37.51 | Volkswagner | jpw, server is Debian 6 on VPS, openVZ. When I compare .depends.start to a second Deb6 server, it is significantly different in order. |
| 12:38.29 | LoCo_xXx | i've got an ACPI error no handler found on region |
| 12:38.36 | LoCo_xXx | does anyone know how to fix that ? |
| 12:38.47 | jpw | Volkswagner: invote insserv manually and does the order change at all? |
| 12:38.53 | jpw | s/invote/invoke/ |
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| 12:41.48 | Volkswagner | is researching how to invoke insserv |
| 12:42.05 | jpw | Volkswagner: `sudo insserv' |
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| 12:43.41 | Volkswagner | jpw, are you talking about log order? if so I should run logrotate first? |
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| 12:44.47 | speCter | Hiho @all .. |
| 12:44.50 | no_gravity | Hello! I have this problem on my notebook running debian 6: Sometimes I boot, Gnome comes up and there is no network applet and no network. I reboot. The same. I reboot. I reboot. And at sometime the net suddenly works and the network applet is there. Any ideas how to go about this? What would you do, when the machine is booted and there is no network applet? |
| 12:46.13 | jpw | Volkswagner: you seem to be concerned about a few things. 1) your boot order - by ruynning insserv this will recreate your .depend.* and make sure everything is in order 2) from what I understand your logrotated is cycling log files but does not SIGHUP rsyslogd, citadel so that they know to start a new log file. am i right? |
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| 12:48.05 | Volkswagner | jpw, that seems correct, though I did not consider boot order, I thought it was limited to SIGHUP rsyslogd |
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| 12:48.33 | jpw | no_gravity: are you using ndiswrapper? |
| 12:48.41 | Volkswagner | I just ran logrotate -vf /etc/logrotate.conf and now have zero byte files for /var/log/mail.* and syslog |
| 12:49.05 | jpw | Volkswagner: that's what logrotated does. it starts new log files. |
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| 12:49.44 | Volkswagner | yes but now services are not writing to *.log but writing to *.log.1 |
| 12:49.56 | no_gravity | jpw: i dont know. what is that? |
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| 12:51.28 | jpw | no_gravity: it's a ghastly (although sometimes necessary) piece of software that allows you to use native windows device drivers in linux. |
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| 12:52.45 | Volkswagner | jpw, insserv did rewrite /etc/.depends.* files but did not change the order |
| 12:52.52 | no_gravity | jpw: how do i check if i use it? |
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| 12:53.52 | jpw | Volkswagner: are you running logrotated as root as part of the default '/etc/logrotated/rsyslog' file postrotate calls: invoke-rc.d rsyslog reload. can you confirm that this is completing successfully? |
| 12:54.04 | tensorpudding | is it possible for a freeze-up that is not a kernel panic to be caused by video drivers? |
| 12:54.17 | jelly-home | yes |
| 12:54.45 | tensorpudding | also what is the standard fallback video driver nowadays |
| 12:54.57 | jpw | no_gravity: if you don't know then you're probably not using ndiswraper. Have you checked the syslog for any clues? |
| 12:55.17 | no_gravity | jpw: how do i check syslog? with dmesg? |
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| 12:56.03 | jpw | no_gravity: dmesg will provide you with kernel messages that *could* be helpful. on an unsuccessful boot is your nic being detected. |
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| 12:57.01 | no_gravity | jpw: isnt there a commandline tool for the network, like "wifi --scan" to show all available networks and "wifi --connect somewhere" to connect and with nice debug output? i hate all that gui stuff. at least when it doesnt work :) |
| 12:57.24 | no_gravity | jpw: how would i check if my nic is being detected? |
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| 12:58.18 | klez | no_gravity: iwlist wlan0 scan |
| 12:58.26 | klez | where wlan0 is your network adapter |
| 12:58.34 | jpw | no_gravity: `iwlist scan` will show you local accesspoints. |
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| 13:00.39 | no_gravity | Indeed, that shows me the available networks! |
| 13:00.47 | no_gravity | So how do I connect to one? |
| 13:01.24 | klez | no_gravity: if it's open just iwconfig wlan0 essid "name_of_accesspoint" |
| 13:01.26 | histo | no_gravity: Is this a gui based system? |
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| 13:01.52 | no_gravity | histo: yes, gnome |
| 13:02.09 | klez | no_gravity: then probably dhclient wlan0 |
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| 13:02.57 | histo | no_gravity: use network-manager or wicd if you want a gui network connection manager |
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| 13:05.27 | no_gravity | klez: "iwconfig wlan0 essid my_accesspoint" returns without output. net doesnt work though. maybe because of no nameserver. let me try the dhclient thingy... |
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| 13:06.06 | klez | no_gravity: the dhclient thingy is to receive an ip from the router via dhcp |
| 13:06.17 | Volkswagner | jpw:, I think you have hit the nail on the head. Since Sept 2012 this has been working "invoke-rc.d rsyslog rotate > /dev/null" .. I will change rotate to reload |
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| 13:06.45 | solveig | babilen, hi there sorry the delay. here are my os-prober and update-grub2 ooutput http://pastebin.com/utyArNkX |
| 13:06.46 | no_gravity | klez: it keeps spitting out "DHCPDISCOVER ..." |
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| 13:07.01 | klez | no_gravity: let it go for some seconds |
| 13:07.51 | no_gravity | klez: it ended with "NO DHCPOFFERS" |
| 13:08.04 | klez | does the router support dhcp? |
| 13:08.08 | babilen | solveig: Thank you, please do not use pastebin.com in the future, but a better pastebin such as http://paste.debian.net http://paste.ubuntu.com or http://refheap.com |
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| 13:08.47 | no_gravity | klez: i dont know. normally everything "just works" |
| 13:09.00 | no_gravity | klez: pinging the ip of google gives me "network unreachable" |
| 13:09.28 | klez | no_gravity: maybe just follow histo's advice and go with wicd |
| 13:09.38 | klez | there's a curses interface for that |
| 13:09.42 | jpw | Volkswagner: interesting. that would explain it. on a side note you shouldn't ever need to modify these files. i would find out if anything else in that directory has changed. |
| 13:09.46 | Volkswagner | jpw, changing "invoke-rc.d rsyslog rotate > /dev/null" to "invoke-rc.d rsyslog reload > /dev/null" did not fix the logging issue |
| 13:10.12 | Daniel15 | babilen: Why is pastebin.com bad? |
| 13:10.21 | Volkswagner | I don't see any errors after running logrotate -vf /etc/logrotate.conf |
| 13:10.24 | jpw | Volkswagner: what if you run the command manually, does rsyslog start writing to the new file. |
| 13:10.24 | no_gravity | klez, histo: i cannot install wicd, because i dont have net :) |
| 13:10.26 | babilen | solveig: Did you touch the Windows partitions during the installation or are they still in place as they used to? What does "gdisk -l /dev/sda" give you? Do you know if you use UEFI boot for MS Windows 7? FWIW, I would strongly recommend to install and use wheezy at this point. Wheezy is the currently frozen testing branch of Debian that will be released as stable soon. It fully supports UEFI and, most likely, all your hardware. |
| 13:10.32 | babilen | dpkg: pastebin.com |
| 13:10.33 | dpkg | pastebin.com mangles input, takes forever to load, makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads. Please use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 13:10.39 | babilen | Daniel15: ^^^ |
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| 13:10.52 | lmaowaffle | hi folks. Is it possible to change the colors used in aptitude? Is it possible to have it run in black/white only? It's difficult to read the screen sometimes with a light fg + light background combination with most elements |
| 13:11.12 | klez | no_gravity: some info on your connection? like is it password-protected? |
| 13:11.15 | Volkswagner | jpw, I thought logrotate -vf /etc/logrotate.conf = running manually |
| 13:11.16 | lmaowaffle | (in Xterm and similar) |
| 13:11.30 | no_gravity | klez: its a standard wpa2 i would say |
| 13:11.38 | babilen | lmaowaffle: I'd take a look at "Options" → "Settings" in aptitude ... |
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| 13:12.03 | klez | no_gravity: there's wpa_supplicant, but I don't remember how it works atm |
| 13:12.07 | klez | lemme check |
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| 13:12.36 | lmaowaffle | babilen: oh, didn't know there was a menu. I'll check it out |
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| 13:13.40 | tensorpudding | Xorg -configure seems to fail with error 2 |
| 13:13.42 | babilen | lmaowaffle: I'm not sure if you can change the colour settings, but that is where I would look |
| 13:13.50 | solveig | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/249476/ |
| 13:13.51 | jpw | Volkswagner: i mean the postrotate command without logrotated. we know the log files are rotating but rsyslog isn't restarting. |
| 13:13.55 | babilen | tensorpudding: You typically don't use that anymore |
| 13:14.01 | babilen | dpkg: tell tensorpudding -about empty xorg.conf |
| 13:14.03 | solveig | babilen, how to i install taht freezy version? |
| 13:14.13 | babilen | freezy! :-D |
| 13:14.25 | babilen | dpkg: tell solveig -about install wheezy |
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| 13:14.29 | tensorpudding | i'm trying to set up so that i can use fbdev instead of intel to diagnose this problem |
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| 13:14.51 | tensorpudding | Xorg -configure was what the debian wiki told me to do |
| 13:15.23 | babilen | solveig: May I also see the output of "mount" ? |
| 13:15.41 | tensorpudding | if there is an easier way to do that than to create and modify xorg.conf, i'd like to hear it |
| 13:15.52 | grand_grunt | Hi. I am trying to boot a Debian where I have changed the screen for a very old one (a monochrome VGA). |
| 13:16.04 | klez | no_gravity: check this http://blog.nelhage.com/2008/08/using-wpa_supplicant-on-debianubuntu/ |
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| 13:16.11 | babilen | dpkg: tell tensorpudding -about configure xorg |
| 13:16.14 | LoCo_xXx | i am having trouble with the ACPI no handling error |
| 13:16.16 | babilen | dpkg: tell tensorpudding -about xorg config squeze |
| 13:16.24 | LoCo_xXx | someone knows how to fix that? |
| 13:16.25 | grand_grunt | A few second after grub, when the "fancy" terminal is set up, nothing is displayed anymore |
| 13:16.36 | LoCo_xXx | is with kali linux that runs on debian |
| 13:16.40 | LoCo_xXx | kernel 3.6 |
| 13:16.40 | tensorpudding | i'm not using squeeze, i'm on wheezy |
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| 13:16.53 | solveig | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/249477/ |
| 13:16.59 | grand_grunt | How do I force Linux to keep the default font used by GRUB, when booting ? |
| 13:17.07 | jelly-home | !tell LoCo_xXx about kali |
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| 13:17.21 | klez | no_gravity: skip right to the part about wpa_supplicant.conf |
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| 13:17.26 | Volkswagner | jpw, actually reload fails, but restart works, here are valid params > Usage: /etc/init.d/rsyslog {start|stop|rotate|restart|force-reload|status} |
| 13:17.30 | LoCo_xXx | thanks klez |
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| 13:17.44 | no_gravity | klez: hmm... normally everything works. reconfigering everything sounds like a pain. maybe i will simply reinstall debian. |
| 13:17.46 | babilen | tensorpudding: You typically just create a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ with the content needed to configure whatever it is you want to configure. If, for example, you want to configure it to use "foobar" as driver for the graphic card you would use something along the lines of http://paste.debian.net/249478/ in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-foobar.conf (adjust to your wishes) |
| 13:18.00 | jpw | Volkswagner: interesting are you sure you are on Debian6? |
| 13:18.14 | tensorpudding | very well |
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| 13:18.22 | Volkswagner | oops, Debian 7! sorry for that |
| 13:18.28 | klez | no_gravity: imho reinstalling is overkill... it would take just a couple of minutes |
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| 13:18.43 | klez | then you install wicd and you have everything going |
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| 13:18.59 | klez | LoCo_xXx: thank about what? :) |
| 13:19.11 | Volkswagner | I forgot I had to upgrade to 7 to get Citadel working/migrated from an old server |
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| 13:19.33 | lmaowaffle | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.53 | jpw | Volkswagner: don't worry I don't think you actually said what version you were on. |
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| 13:20.20 | jpw | really needs to get an install of wheezy |
| 13:20.29 | no_gravity | klez: "some minutes"... im VERY sceptical about that :) |
| 13:21.11 | grand_grunt | I rephrase : what is the most fail-safe config of /etc/default/console-setup ? |
| 13:21.11 | klez | no_gravity: it's your sunday, I won't tell you not to do that, it's just I'd prefer to try and reconfigure :) have fun reinstalling :D |
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| 13:22.24 | solveig | ... |
| 13:22.44 | babilen | solveig: patience! |
| 13:23.07 | solveig | babilen, was not directed at you... i thought i was disconected ;) |
| 13:23.22 | Volkswagner | jpw, here is a compare of .depends.start for Deb7 (not working) and Deb 6 (working) http://pastebin.com/sHxBj7wY |
| 13:23.39 | babilen | solveig: Could you run "mkdir /mnt/windows", "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /mnt/windows" "ls -l /mnt/windows" "umount /mnt/windows" "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda3 /mnt/windows" "ls -l /mnt/windows" "umount /mnt/windows" "rmdir /mnt/windows" and show me the output? |
| 13:25.16 | tensorpudding | gah, fbdev cannot run gnome-shell |
| 13:25.26 | tensorpudding | this is not going to be usable |
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| 13:27.30 | no_gravity | klez: i would prefer if everything was based on simple parameters. like "wifi connect --ssid=... --pass=..." then there would be nothing to reconfigure. |
| 13:27.31 | babilen | solveig: But I would still recommend to use wheezy -- The problem you are seeing is due to the fact that you have a /boot and a /Boot directory somewhere on your Windows system partition (which is why we look now) -- As NTFS is not case sensitive this messes things up. The plan is to remove or (probably the safer variant) to rename the /boot directory on your Windows system partition. |
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| 13:28.19 | klez | no_gravity: can you code? you could make a script to do that |
| 13:28.30 | klez | I scared him... |
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| 13:29.36 | babilen | solveig: After you've done that you should be able to run "update-grub2" and get the Windows entry. But still: Given that your computer shipped with Windows 7 it is very likely that you need a newer kernel/Debian version anyway. I would just install wheezy or upgrade to it ... Details are in <install wheezy> <firmware images wheezy> <installation guide wheezy> for the installation and <release notes wheezy> <squeeze->wheezy> for the upgrade. ... |
| 13:29.42 | babilen | ... (/msg dpkg install wheezy) -- Given that you most likely just installed Debian it is probably faster/easier to simply reinstall. |
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| 13:30.13 | babilen | solveig: You can read up on your issue if you google for '"ls: cannot access /var/lib/os-prober/mount/boot"' (that is with the quotation marks!) btw |
| 13:30.34 | Volkswagner | jpw, perhaps "invoke-rc.d rsyslog restart > /dev/null" is the fix, "invoke-rc.d rsyslog reload > /dev/null" may not be best for /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog |
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| 13:32.45 | no_gravity | re. still without network. |
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| 13:34.42 | jpw | Volkswagner: ideally you want to keep it as rotate. using restart will cause some syslog() calls to be missed. |
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| 13:35.52 | SomeoneWeird | So i've just rebooted my laptop and suddenly sound isn't working (speakers + headphones), can someone help me troubleshoot? |
| 13:36.02 | lmaowaffle | Hi. Which /var/log/ file usually gets written to for system events? (primarily used.) I'm considering tail'ing a log file on my X root window, but I'm not sure which. Also, which tail tool should I use that can support root privileges - or should I just use sudo? |
| 13:36.04 | Mogget | Hey guys. Yesterday I managed to much up my dpkg/apt. I managed to fix it but now I want to do a consistency check. Is this possible or do I have to live with the fact that things might just be partially fixed? |
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| 13:36.42 | babilen | solveig: I have to leave for a little while. Let's assume that you ran the commands I just mentioned and furthermore that the *first* command listed a /mnt/windows/boot directory -- You would then mount it again (mkdir /mnt/windows ; mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /mnt/windows) to move/rename the directory with, say, "mv /mnt/windows/boot{,_this_caused_problems}" -- Continue with running "update-grub2" which should now not result in an error. |
| 13:36.48 | babilen | solveig: Good luck! |
| 13:37.24 | Volkswagner | jpw, do you think /etc/init.d/.depends.start is significant to the problem? |
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| 13:38.40 | jpw | Volkswagner: no. as I've already said it's dynamically generated using the LSB headers of files in /etc/init.d/. for it to be wrong would be a big big problem |
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| 13:40.28 | petn-randall | lmaowaffle: There's no such thing. Check man syslog for that. However, you could configure yourself a logfile that contains all the data you want and tail that. |
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| 13:43.01 | Volkswagner | jpw, do you think having rsyslog reload/restart/rotate twice in /etc/logroate.d/rsyslog can be the issue? rysyslog >> http://pastebin.com/fgiFfGDS |
| 13:43.23 | Volkswagner | perhaps I should put mail logs in separate /etc/logrotate.d/mail file???? |
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| 13:46.25 | sprax_ | setting up a java/maven dev environment to hack on some package. tons of stuff needed (git, maven2, jre, jdk, blah blah blah). apt handles all the dependencies brilliantly. No google, no hassle, just apt-get install thing_I_need, and it appears |
| 13:46.38 | sprax_ | been on Debian 8 years now, still love it, thanks! |
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| 13:48.05 | jelly-home | if only it had a recent eclipse version |
| 13:48.25 | V155 | Hi, I want to install hw acceleration for my old intel card. But there http://wiki.debian.org/GraphicsCard#Intel is nothing mentioned about DRI |
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| 13:49.13 | sprax_ | jelly-home, I dev on a Win client, shared my source dir out w/samba, and build on the debian server. It's a tomcat project so it's a good setup for me, but generally, I know how you feel |
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| 13:49.58 | V155 | just get the eclipse from their homepage. works fine |
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| 13:52.39 | tensorpudding | do you really need a 3d-accelerated video driver to watch fullscreen video... |
| 13:52.47 | lmaowaffle | petn-randall: ok |
| 13:53.18 | V155 | tensorpudding: i want it to play some games |
| 13:54.01 | tensorpudding | at this rate i'm just going to suck it up and use windows again |
| 13:54.37 | sprax_ | hw acceleration helps FMV tremendously as well anyway |
| 13:54.52 | jpw | Volkswagner: it's not an issue it's just doing different things with different files. |
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| 13:55.15 | solveig | babilen, thanks! the commands did not work, but i rather downlaod the wheezy at this point |
| 13:55.33 | solveig | what is a good iamgeburner for debian? |
| 13:56.18 | Volkswagner | solveig, cdrecord will burn .iso |
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| 13:56.37 | solveig | Volkswagner, tahnks |
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| 14:03.39 | solveig | nay fat secure way to uninstal grub? |
| 14:03.52 | solveig | any fast and secure* |
| 14:04.10 | petn-randall | solveig: no |
| 14:04.19 | solveig | rgr |
| 14:04.24 | petn-randall | solveig: If you want another boot loader, you just overwrite the old one. |
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| 14:18.18 | juniorsa | Hi, I have a degraded array event using mdadm, I can see which disk is still in the array , is there anyway to see which disk has failed? without scouring the logs :) |
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| 14:19.55 | caf | i would have thought it still showed up in /proc/mdstat but i could be wrong |
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| 14:23.17 | {mikey} | Hi, can anyone tell me how to create a control group on debian and execute a process under it? |
| 14:23.49 | {mikey} | I have cgroup-bin installed |
| 14:25.45 | {mikey} | I've tried mounting cgroups under fstab as "cgroup /sys/fs/cgroup cgroup defaults 0 0" which seemed to work |
| 14:26.44 | {mikey} | Then tried to create a group "sudo cgexec -g cpu:unforkoutable" |
| 14:26.53 | {mikey} | which seemed to work |
| 14:27.50 | {mikey} | Then tried to execute a process under that group "sudo cgexec -g cpu:unforkoutable bash" |
| 14:28.17 | Carlinhos | I can't alternate between channels using alt+arrow on irssi using terminator, is there a way to make it usable? |
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| 14:28.35 | blip2 | Carlinhos: use Esc-arrow? |
| 14:28.37 | {mikey} | which failed with "cgroup change of group failed" and an exit code of 96. Google tells me nothing |
| 14:29.03 | Carlinhos | blip2: how? change in irssi config? |
| 14:29.14 | blip2 | no |
| 14:29.15 | Carlinhos | i'd rather stick with alt if possible though |
| 14:29.19 | blip2 | the escape key |
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| 14:30.04 | Carlinhos | oh it sort of works |
| 14:30.18 | Carlinhos | any way to use alt instead? |
| 14:31.13 | petemc | configure your terminal to use alt as meta |
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| 14:35.55 | Carlinhos | someone just told me about ^P & ^N, i think they might be good |
| 14:36.22 | lmaowaffle | Carlinhos: I thought that only scrolled back/forward through irssi buffer history |
| 14:36.45 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | why not just use the number keys |
| 14:36.48 | lmaowaffle | - not windows |
| 14:36.53 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | or /win N |
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| 14:38.10 | spm_Draget | I had silent disk errors. Tho most of the time the disks seems to work without issues and did not report errors. I copied the system to a new drive and now I want to check if all my files are still okay. Is there a way to check all files installed by apt? |
| 14:38.17 | spm_Draget | Does it keep checksums? |
| 14:39.17 | Carlinhos | lmaowaffle: that's ctrl+p/n i think |
| 14:39.51 | Carlinhos | lmaowaffle: i mean alt sorry |
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| 14:40.34 | lmaowaffle | Carlinhos: oh |
| 14:41.18 | Carlinhos | yeah, alt for scrolling, ctrl for switching between channels |
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| 14:51.29 | jelly-home | spm_Draget: debsums |
| 14:51.45 | jelly-home | spm_Draget: unfortunately the checksums are not mandatory |
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| 15:17.13 | ghul | h people. i just installed debian n my dell xps and i cant get wifi to work. can anyone help me out? |
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| 15:20.17 | Cultist | is it a laptop? |
| 15:20.49 | EmleyMoor | ghul: You probably need to tell us what exact model it is, and/or what the wireless chipset is. |
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| 15:21.20 | Cultist | if you do lspci -v you should see it near the bottom |
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| 15:40.24 | mms_ | I have more of networking question so should I ask here ? |
| 15:40.57 | babilen | mms_: there is ##networking |
| 15:41.14 | mms_ | babilen: I want to increase my chance of answer ! |
| 15:41.27 | babilen | mms_: Is your question Debian related? |
| 15:41.43 | mms_ | babilen: not directly but in a way |
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| 15:42.09 | mms_ | its bit complex |
| 15:42.27 | mms_ | so only if you have patience I can proceed |
| 15:42.40 | babilen | Well, decide for yourself. If it is offtopic in here, you shouldn't ask that. As you know what you want to ask you can decide for yourself if it is or not. |
| 15:43.10 | mms_ | as I said it more appropriate for networking I know but did not get answer there |
| 15:43.18 | mms_ | here i know guys are all hackers |
| 15:43.27 | mms_ | they would probably know all of it |
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| 15:47.45 | jelly-home | it's Sunday. Be patient |
| 15:48.53 | mms_ | jelly-home: I have been trying to get answer for week now but seems not to get too far |
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| 16:40.21 | acu | the most stupid question - how can I start nautilus dolphin or konqueror as root - not through cli (I know I could just open bash and type as root - nautilus - but I guess there should be a way to run as root a program |
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| 16:42.03 | `Z` | acu which graphic environment ? |
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| 16:43.05 | acu | `Z`, kde |
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| 17:02.30 | philluminati | Debian website links to nonexistant urls: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/Wifi |
| 17:02.39 | philluminati | links to http://eeepc.debian.net/ |
| 17:02.56 | philluminati | for a script I need to get my eeepc 1000H working |
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| 17:03.11 | philluminati | any thoughts on how else I can get my wireless networking going please? |
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| 17:04.45 | V155 | ok. philluminati than please look your wireless device up in lsusb or lspci and post it here or try to find the needed driver yourself |
| 17:04.59 | V155 | after that. You have to decide how to configure your wlan |
| 17:05.21 | tekzilla | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.25 | tekzilla | argh |
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| 17:05.57 | philluminati | the driver I think I need is rt2860 |
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| 17:06.16 | bigbee | q |
| 17:06.20 | philluminati | ralink driver. it ties in with the description here: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/Wifi |
| 17:06.21 | V155 | ok, where is the problem? |
| 17:06.57 | V155 | yeah just google it. I dont know if the problem persists but there is an isntruction in the www how to build the driver |
| 17:07.01 | philluminati | I searched the repos (using eth0) and found a package along the lines of firmware-drivers-free |
| 17:07.22 | philluminati | which shows the drivers, I can even modprobe the ra2860sta driver, but I'm not sure how to get 'networking' to come up |
| 17:07.32 | philluminati | and lsmod after modprobe doesn't show the driver |
| 17:07.47 | V155 | philluminati: I dont use debian but I think that the firmware should be named something like bc-firmware or similar |
| 17:08.03 | V155 | then watch dmesg for some errors |
| 17:08.04 | philluminati | When I installed fedora 10 (about 3 years ago) I made a note that I had to install the rt2960 driver |
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| 17:09.16 | V155 | i think its the problem with that internal usb rt wlan. Google that and build it yourself. that works. |
| 17:10.02 | zykotick9 | V155: have you seen this page? http://wiki.debian.org/rt2860sta |
| 17:10.48 | V155 | no. I didnt got X atm because im trying to build mesa7.11 and it makes some problems :D |
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| 17:14.15 | scx | hello |
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| 17:16.27 | philluminati | can someone tell me if 'firmware-ralink' is in the debian repos, including non-free please? |
| 17:16.33 | philluminati | my machine can't find it |
| 17:16.50 | scx | i had bad sectors on hdd so i copied data from one drive to another using ddrescue; i want to check file system; how to do that? whether the "fsck.ext4 -f myfs" will be sufficient? |
| 17:17.00 | ompaul | philluminati: it is in non-free |
| 17:17.14 | V155 | philluminati: yes firmware-ralink is in the repos |
| 17:17.31 | philluminati | thanks.. I'll check my apt sources |
| 17:17.35 | ompaul | scx: never fsck a mounted volume fsck -y /dev/whatever |
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| 17:20.06 | scx | ompaul: it isnt mounted - i run system from USB (/dev/sda) but hdd is sdb |
| 17:20.38 | ompaul | scx so as root fsck -y /dev/sdb |
| 17:21.54 | scx | sdb is harddrive, partition is /dev/mylvm/mypartition :-) |
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| 17:22.05 | philluminati | ok I put "nonfree" not "non-free". I have it now thanks |
| 17:22.50 | mumpitzel | ompaul: fsck on sdb? |
| 17:22.57 | scx | ompaul: whether I should use a more accurate tool? |
| 17:23.20 | mumpitzel | scx: the only tool there is is usually fsck |
| 17:23.26 | ompaul | mumpitzel: fair pint |
| 17:23.28 | ompaul | point |
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| 17:23.38 | mumpitzel | it's a fair pint too probably :P |
| 17:23.51 | ompaul | scx: use it against the partition you formatted |
| 17:24.22 | mumpitzel | ompaul: he wants to fsck his ddrescue file I think. which makes sense. the faulty hdd he simply overwrites and lets SMART do the fixing |
| 17:24.48 | mumpitzel | scx: a simple "fsck <ddrescue-image-file>" should do it |
| 17:25.26 | scx | ok, thanks |
| 17:25.53 | scx | BTW: it isnt file but block device (i use dmcrypt/LUKS + LVM) |
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| 17:26.51 | mumpitzel | scx: ddrescue creates files usually, not dmcrypt/LUKS block devices |
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| 17:28.05 | scx | mumpitzel: i have ddrescue (gddrescue/GNU ddrescue) not dd_rescue |
| 17:28.53 | scx | and i copied whole disk to another |
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| 17:56.28 | acu | helo - I want to setup a host machine KVM with multiple Virtual Machines - I want to make a Volume Group for /root (23.6 GB and 1 GB swap) plus some extra place for snapshot - I wonder how bish chouls be the snapshot place size ? |
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| 17:59.46 | Volkswagner | should logrotate script be separated for mail and rsyslog? Does anyone see problems with this /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog for Debian 7 >> http://pastebin.com/tBsV4i0D |
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| 18:02.20 | mcsuper5 | anyone compiled bsdmainutils on os x? |
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| 18:05.46 | ompaul | mcsuper5: perhaps you are on the wrong channel |
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| 18:07.41 | kriebz | mcsuper5: no, and yes, off-topic, but may I ask: what's in that package that isn't in OS X normally? |
| 18:07.51 | mcsuper5 | I use both os x and ubuntu, calendar works on ubuntu, so i got the source from debian's site |
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| 18:08.46 | ompaul | ubuntu is offtopic also |
| 18:08.53 | ompaul | just by the by |
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| 18:09.13 | mcsuper5 | I have a calendar program on os x, but it doesn't work for say Memorial Day, debian/ubuntu's calendar handles this |
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| 18:10.06 | ompaul | whatever memorial day is --- you are saying your os/x needs some apple love which it is not getting |
| 18:10.09 | kriebz | you need a proper calendar file, which you can copy from a Linux box. they're just text |
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| 18:10.26 | mcsuper5 | The source I got from debian's site is what I'm having trouble compiling |
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| 18:11.10 | kriebz | don't bother compiling, just copy the files out of /usr/share/calendar for the ones you want |
| 18:11.12 | ompaul | mcsuper5: there is a version for your o/s somewhere but it is not debian's source it may be matched against a glibc or some such version |
| 18:11.47 | ompaul | compile that which works natively --but read kriebz carefully |
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| 18:14.39 | kriebz | actually, looks like OS X and Wheezy have the same files, just which they use by default are different |
| 18:14.40 | mcsuper5 | aparently there are 2 discrete versions, the one I have does not handle MonLast properly, debian/ubuntu do handle this |
| 18:16.05 | kriebz | I guess that's possible, but I don't see any evidence for that |
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| 18:17.59 | mcsuper5 | on my machine from "calendar -A 45" One line output is "May 13*Memorial Day in USA (Last Monday of May)" |
| 18:18.26 | kriebz | $ calendar -f /usr/share/calendar/calendar.usholiday -t 27.5 |
| 18:18.27 | kriebz | May 27*Memorial Day in USA (Last Monday of May) |
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| 18:19.15 | kriebz | eew. odd |
| 18:19.25 | mcsuper5 | works in Ubuntu which uses debian's source, but the output described above was from os x |
| 18:19.55 | kriebz | go here and figure out how to file a bug: http://www.opensource.apple.com |
| 18:19.56 | mcsuper5 | did you just try it os x? |
| 18:20.27 | kriebz | yes, both times. If I ask for May 27, it says it's there, but the -A thing seems broken |
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| 18:21.05 | kriebz | anyway, you should probably find an OS X channel for this... or just always ssh to Linux to set appointments |
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| 18:21.39 | mcsuper5 | problem is limitations are described in the manual |
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| 18:22.50 | mcsuper5 | lots of channels mostly garbage |
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| 18:24.39 | Nameless | hi there |
| 18:25.13 | mcsuper5 | I'd like to use debian source to compile it, but the source does not have a configure option, was this designed to be portable in devian source, or just a quick and sloppy port from openbsd? |
| 18:26.03 | jpw | mcsuper5: you make less sense with each passing comment... |
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| 18:26.31 | jpw | mcsuper5: what is your *specific* problem. |
| 18:26.42 | kriebz | you'd have to ask the maintainer. likely a debian source package has extra stuff done to it to meet the requirements of the build system and patched for quirks of the versions of its dependencies in the current release |
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| 18:27.14 | kriebz | have you tried compiling the FreeBSD source on BSD or OS X to see if the bug is there? |
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| 18:27.45 | mcsuper5 | the version i have is broken. Downloaded the source from debian, which is usually fairly portable. Getting errors when making bsdmainutils on os x box |
| 18:27.58 | ghost75 | what do you think of running debian on raid1 consisting of 2 usb sticks? |
| 18:28.28 | jpw | ghost75: recipe for disaster. |
| 18:28.38 | ghost75 | is there way to minimize writes ? |
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| 18:28.55 | mumpitzel | sure there is. disable logs or log to tmpfs, etc |
| 18:28.59 | jpw | ghost75: have enough ram to not need a swap partition. |
| 18:29.02 | mumpitzel | but why raid1 |
| 18:29.31 | ghost75 | i was thinking about running kvm on debian and to run disks only for the vms |
| 18:29.39 | kriebz | ghost75: noatime. ext2 (no journal), but prepare for breakage when you lose power |
| 18:29.40 | mcsuper5 | happen to know what package to look for on FreeBSD, calendar is a lousy query for searching |
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| 18:30.39 | jpw | mcsuper5: ##freebsd? |
| 18:31.06 | mcsuper5 | thanks |
| 18:31.11 | jpw | your welcome |
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| 18:31.40 | kriebz | ghost75: with LInux virtualization, it's almost not worth doing the USB stick thing. and almost certainly not worth the headache of RAIDing it |
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| 18:32.12 | kriebz | you can have a spare one, replace, and reboot in the *very* unlikely instance that you will get a while-running failure of a flash stick |
| 18:32.13 | ghost75 | then better share disks with host and vm? |
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| 18:33.16 | kriebz | the host OS will be doing virtually no IO. You might want to use md-raid, two partitons for / and swap, then a third for an LVM PV |
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| 18:33.30 | kriebz | but there are as many ways to slice disks as there are people doing it, especially with virt |
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| 18:34.27 | kriebz | or use the USB stick, but I doubt it's worth RAIDing them. if you need that reliability, you'd have the money for two SATA SSDs |
| 18:34.28 | mumpitzel | kriebz: the point of virtualization is not to "slice disks" but use passthrough on the controllers |
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| 18:35.08 | ghost75 | the thing is that the case has only place for 2 disks |
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| 18:36.13 | kriebz | mumpitzel: very use-case dependent |
| 18:36.22 | kriebz | that's a crappy case |
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| 18:36.58 | ghost75 | smart doesnt support usb stick does it? |
| 18:37.59 | kriebz | no |
| 18:38.40 | ghost75 | prolly hard to see when it slowly dies |
| 18:39.01 | mumpitzel | typically it simply dies. nothing slow about it. usb sticks are all trash, quality wise |
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| 18:40.38 | ghost75 | my disks in old server have no 50k hours :) |
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| 18:44.34 | derric | I'm trying to build the bitcoin client and I get the followin err: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lboost_program_options |
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| 18:47.28 | derric | I installed libboost1.37-dev |
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| 19:03.25 | Emmanuel_Chanel | Is Hyper Estraier deleted from Debian Wheezy? |
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| 19:09.21 | jiohdi | Emmanuel_Chanel, there is no package by that name in wheezy |
| 19:09.37 | jiohdi | there is a pearl module |
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| 19:09.55 | jiohdi | libersearch-estraier-perl |
| 19:10.17 | jiohdi | libsearch-estraier-perl |
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| 19:12.58 | Emmanuel_Chanel | ok. So they would be deleted... |
| 19:13.23 | Emmanuel_Chanel | jiohdi: Thank you for answering me. |
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| 19:14.00 | jiohdi | np |
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| 19:14.20 | cz3141 | have a fully functional install ofdeb squeeze on portable hd, but when i plug into difft system, cant see net adapter. boots fine, sees other hw. help? |
| 19:15.03 | cz3141 | the net adapter is on the mobo and is turned on in bios |
| 19:15.14 | jiohdi | cz3141, is it a live .iso version or an operational system |
| 19:15.20 | pa7iQ | hi, i have debian stable but enabled testing and set the priorities in apt preferences so only stable would be used. but if i install something with apt-get -t testing package, it works sometimes but often i get errors about impossible situation and unmet dependencies so install would not start. any way to fix this? i guess if i removed the stable sources then it would work. |
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| 19:15.27 | cz3141 | operational |
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| 19:16.05 | jiohdi | pa7iQ, sometimes you can fix dependency issues with apt-get install -f |
| 19:16.06 | cz3141 | installed on one system, moved to another... |
| 19:16.46 | cz3141 | when i did install, did all the generic drivers instead of hw specific for installed system |
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| 19:17.11 | zykotick9 | pa7iQ: mixing binary repos is a bad idea, see <frankendebian>. pick one relase, and stick to it. backport (using source repos) particular packages you need updating, see <ssb> |
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| 19:18.20 | pa7iQ | jiohdi: thanks i'll keep that in mind |
| 19:18.30 | cz3141 | jiohdi u think i should use livecd image instead? |
| 19:19.17 | jiohdi | cz3141, there is likely some hidden config set up for the first system that is interfering |
| 19:19.27 | jiohdi | a live should work on any system |
| 19:20.12 | juniorsa | Hi, I have a degraded array event using mdadm, I can see which disk is still in the array , is there anyway to see which disk has failed? without scouring the logs :) |
| 19:20.14 | cz3141 | yeah, thought i had anticipated for this ,but yes livecd may be the answer |
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| 19:20.47 | juniorsa | there must be somewhere that says md0 is made from sda and sdb ? |
| 19:21.12 | jiohdi | cz3141, I know that suse studio can make a live with any packages you wish, not sure debian can do that yet |
| 19:21.48 | jiohdi | though suse does not have all the same packages... missing some of my favorites |
| 19:22.13 | pa7iQ | zykotick9: thanks, but what is frankendebian and ssb you mention? |
| 19:22.35 | jiohdi | frankendebian sounds like ubuntu :) |
| 19:23.08 | zykotick9 | pa7iQ: sorry, they're dpkg factoids, in your irc client "/msg dpkg frankendebian" |
| 19:23.24 | cz3141 | yeah, i just thought that by installing all the generic drivers initially, i was covered. |
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| 19:30.03 | cousin_luigi | Greetings |
| 19:30.12 | HSorgYves | Good evening. Does anyone use Debian on a Dell server with an iDrac6 Express card? Can't get the nic sharing to work… :-() |
| 19:30.46 | cousin_luigi | installed the php5-snmp package but he doesn't seem to be able to use the related functions from apache: any idea why? |
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| 19:31.41 | xand | cousin_luigi: restart apache |
| 19:32.16 | cousin_luigi | xand: I already did |
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| 19:34.39 | jpw | cousin_luigi: what apache directives were you expecting? |
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| 19:35.18 | cousin_luigi | jpw: not sure what you mean |
| 19:35.57 | jpw | cousin_luigi: you saud "don't seem to be able to use the related functions from apache..." what do you mean by that? |
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| 19:37.10 | cousin_luigi | jpw: PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function snmp3_real_walk() <- this is what the log shows |
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| 19:37.53 | mumpitzel | cousin_luigi: check your various php.ini files under /etc/php5.it probably needs to add the snmp extension library to one of them but didn't. usually under apache2/ |
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| 19:38.40 | cousin_luigi | mumpitzel: I wish I knew what to check |
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| 19:39.28 | mumpitzel | cousin_luigi: check the files in the php5 snmp package. is there any with a .so extension? |
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| 19:40.19 | cousin_luigi | mumpitzel: yes, the package installs /usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/snmp.so |
| 19:40.50 | mumpitzel | now check if there is something referencing snmp.so in /etc/php5/apache2/conf.d/ |
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| 19:42.53 | cousin_luigi | mumpitzel: nothing there |
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| 19:44.17 | mumpitzel | and that's your problem. look at the files in there to see how to add it |
| 19:44.44 | mumpitzel | e.g. look at the mysql.ini one. should be self explanatory |
| 19:45.40 | cousin_luigi | mumpitzel: should I simply copy snmp.ini into /etc/php5/apache2/conf.d ? |
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| 19:49.46 | juniorsa | anyone ? Hi, I have a degraded array event using mdadm, I can see which disk is still in the array , is there anyway to see which disk has failed? without scouring the logs |
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| 19:58.48 | johndoe | suspend powers the computer off to memory, correct? |
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| 20:02.42 | cousin_luigi | bbl |
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| 20:18.27 | caraconan | Good night. I have a partition boundaries problem: http://paste.debian.net/249561/ . Question: there's any way with LVM to resize partitions while they are mounted? |
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| 20:19.54 | caraconan | I guess not, since LVM goes on top of physical partitions, right? |
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| 20:33.29 | hipodilski | hi I need software to do incremental backups, which one you will recommend me? |
| 20:33.54 | mumpitzel | rsync? |
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| 20:34.08 | xil | hi. I was having trouble with apache and tomcat so I did `update-rc.d -f apache2 remove` and the same for tomcat. I think I fixed the issue and am now wondering if there's a way to return the runlevel links to their normal places (I should have checked before removing them). |
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| 20:35.40 | jpw | xil: upate-rc.d apache2 defaults, et al |
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| 20:35.45 | hipodilski | mumpitzel: I would like something very easy to setup and use preferrably with web gui |
| 20:37.59 | caraconan | <xil> Yes |
| 20:38.13 | caraconan | 1. First return the script to /etc/init.d |
| 20:38.25 | caraconan | Look for apache on /usr/share/... |
| 20:38.33 | jpw | hipodilski: rsnapshot it a bit better than just raw rsynx for incremental backups. it's easy to set up but does not have a web gui - i do not know any with a web gui. |
| 20:38.36 | caraconan | Then: sudo update-rc.d apache default |
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| 20:39.43 | xil | jpw: ah okay, I thought defaults was some generic set of runlevels that not necessarily every script uses, but it's appropriate for this? |
| 20:40.17 | caraconan | <xil> In general, yes |
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| 20:40.34 | caraconan | Unless you want to tune which runlevel starts/stops which service |
| 20:40.53 | xil | caraconan: ah okay, cool ^_^. Also looks like the scripts weren't removed from /etc/init.d |
| 20:41.02 | caraconan | In this case even better |
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| 20:41.54 | jpw | xil: yes the 'defaults' are defined in the LSB header of the script you are referring too. |
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| 20:43.29 | xil | jpw: aha! I see that now |
| 20:43.44 | xil | jpw: caraconan: thanks! =D |
| 20:43.53 | caraconan | <xil> yw |
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| 20:53.04 | peterrooney | hipodilski: rdiff-backup allows for precision incrementals. |
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| 21:03.13 | m4rz | how I can re-stream and UDP socket to other port and some clients connect to it? |
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| 21:06.03 | mllie | hello |
| 21:06.58 | acu | hello guys - i installed debian wheezy kvm and virt-manager and configured the virt-manager for LVM logical volume storage pool - however, by mistake I have added to the Pool the VGroot of the host (with / and swap) and I do not know how can I remove that from the pool |
| 21:08.49 | ruslan_gustomyas | you mean remove volumes from vg? |
| 21:09.56 | acu | remove the vg from the pool |
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| 21:11.58 | ruslan_gustomyas | vgremove? |
| 21:12.47 | mllie | I want to edit my cronjobs, can I do it by just doing nano /etc/crontab? |
| 21:13.05 | milosn_ | crontab -e |
| 21:13.32 | mllie | milosn: is that for all users then? |
| 21:13.46 | acu | ruslan_gustomyas, the Virtual Group is the Group which has LV root and LV swap of the host OS, what is the command I can remove that from the pool ? |
| 21:13.57 | milosn | yes it works for all users, but its only for one user's crontab |
| 21:15.05 | mllie | milosn: well, when I do that I don't see anything |
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| 21:17.20 | milosn | maybe its empty? |
| 21:17.41 | milosn | man crontab |
| 21:17.55 | mllie | milosn: cat /etc/crontab gives output |
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| 21:18.58 | milosn | try, man 5 crontab, for examples |
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| 21:20.38 | mllie | milosn: i did |
| 21:20.59 | mllie | milosn: but that doesn't tell me why /etc/crontab gives output but not crontab -e |
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| 21:23.12 | mllie | milosn: but would it work to edit /etc/crontab directly? |
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| 21:38.09 | enricorotundo | hi guys |
| 21:38.20 | enricorotundo | i need hel with apt-get system |
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| 21:39.24 | enricorotundo | when i install a package using apt-get install it seems dont add it in $PATH, is it correct behavior or should i add it manually? |
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| 21:40.50 | nvz | enricorotundo: you're going to need to be more specific.. your $PATH should already contain the default binary dirs and thats where any debian package should install |
| 21:41.26 | enricorotundo | ok i installed inetd using apt-get and still not find "man inetd" |
| 21:41.40 | enricorotundo | why? |
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| 21:47.17 | nvz | enricorotundo: man inetutils-inetd |
| 21:47.52 | nvz | enricorotundo: dpkg -L inetutils-inetd, shows /usr/share/man/man8/inetutils-inetd.8.gz |
| 21:48.27 | nvz | in other news, manual pages have absolutely nothing to do with your $PATH |
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| 21:50.15 | enricorotundo | okk thanks i thought it searches in Path to find man... it still says "No manual entry for inetutils-inetd" |
| 21:51.17 | enricorotundo | im installing it now... |
| 21:51.26 | nvz | then perhaps you didn't install inetutils-inetd. |
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| 21:51.37 | nvz | ,versions inetd |
| 21:51.38 | judd | No package named 'inetd' was found in i386. |
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| 21:51.56 | nvz | idk what you installed, but inetd doesn't exist, inetutils-inetd does |
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| 21:56.33 | enricorotundo | ok now i cant start ProFTPd 'cause tells: "cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your config" |
| 21:56.53 | enricorotundo | i copied cofing form: http://www.proftpd.org/docs/configs/basic.conf |
| 21:57.07 | enricorotundo | omitting the Anonymous part |
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| 22:07.50 | richwestcoast | please support my friend's twitch stream: he just started out http://www.twitch.tv/rathmaza |
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| 22:44.35 | jhutchins_wk | I thought inetd had been replaced by xinetd. |
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| 22:47.18 | chm0d-780 | hi |
| 22:49.41 | chm0d-780 | what is the best kernel for debian7 wheezy? |
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| 22:50.33 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | chm0d-780: ...the one it comes with? |
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| 22:54.55 | xand | jhutchins_wk: debian has neither by default but both available |
| 22:55.10 | chm0d-780 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI 3.0.2 686 |
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| 22:55.29 | xand | chm0d-780: that was the answer |
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| 22:57.02 | xand | though my wheezy has 3.2.0 |
| 22:57.20 | xand | sounds like you need to upgrade |
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| 22:58.16 | chm0d-780 | xand I was thinking of putting the last kernel |
| 22:58.26 | xand | "last"? |
| 22:58.55 | chm0d-780 | yes |
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| 22:59.28 | xand | what does that mean? |
| 22:59.42 | xand | latest? |
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| 23:00.15 | chm0d-780 | 3.8 i think |
| 23:00.33 | xand | that's not in or supported by debian so. |
| 23:03.52 | chm0d-780 | can tell me a safe and stable kernel for debian 7? |
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| 23:04.28 | dvs | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI> chm0d-780: ...the one it comes with? |
| 23:05.40 | JustinianCode | What package do I install to not have to file a tax return? |
| 23:06.05 | chm0d-780 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI? |
| 23:06.33 | GlitchNZ | JusinianCode: open-money-launderer3.deb |
| 23:06.42 | JustinianCode | also, xand, would you be the xand that I recognize from this channel over a decade ago? |
| 23:07.11 | GlitchNZ | Actually - the bitcoin package could probably help there to |
| 23:07.20 | JustinianCode | lol |
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| 23:08.18 | xand | chm0d-780: the one it comes with.... is there something wrong with that? |
| 23:08.27 | xand | JustinianCode: well, a long time but maybe not *that* long |
| 23:09.04 | GlitchNZ | cd .. |
| 23:09.08 | GlitchNZ | woops, wrong window lol |
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| 23:20.34 | philluminati | I'm looking for the package flashplugin-nonfree |
| 23:20.53 | dvs | ,info flashplugin-nonfree |
| 23:20.54 | judd | Package flashplugin-nonfree (contrib/web, optional) in squeeze/i386: Adobe Flash Player - browser plugin. Version: 1:2.8.2+squeeze1; Size: 17.6k; Installed: 132k; Homepage: http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 23:20.59 | philluminati | ok.. i have non-free but not contrib repo enabled |
| 23:21.10 | philluminati | thanks dvs |
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| 23:21.19 | dvs | np |
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| 23:26.26 | nvz | hmm.. I got an ipod nano 3rd gen and the db was fubar from using different 3rd party apps on it over the years, so I opened Banshee and transferred 500 or so songs off it onto my computer and formatted the ipod, rebooted it to recreate the DB, and now when I go to put the music back on it says its converting it.. |
| 23:26.55 | nvz | I don't understand why it needs to convert something that was just on the damn thing.. its taking forever.. |
| 23:27.04 | Sandman1 | ipods are a pain in the butt for systems that are not windows or mac |
| 23:27.24 | nvz | I've had this thing for years.. never had it convert anything |
| 23:27.27 | dvs | misses the Sansa line |
| 23:28.05 | Towzzer | the conversion is going to reduce the quality |
| 23:28.18 | dvs | ??? |
| 23:28.34 | Towzzer | it's converting your music right? |
| 23:28.52 | Towzzer | conversion from one lossy digital compression to any other including itself reduces the quality |
| 23:29.00 | Towzzer | regardless of the settings |
| 23:29.23 | nvz | idk what its doing all I know is I opened Banshee, dragged 531 songs off the player onto my laptop, and it showed the copy thing in the bottom left.. now when I drag em back it shows two progress bars, copying and converting |
| 23:29.38 | nvz | it shouldn't need to convert files that just came off the damn ipod and were working fine as-is |
| 23:29.58 | nvz | whatever its doing it doesnt need to be doing.. that much I am sure of.. |
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| 23:34.08 | nvz | essentially I was at work the other day and told it to copy these 531 songs back onto my ipod with a full battery in the laptop, and my laptop died and it only copied back like 90 songs.. took maybe 10min to take 531 songs off it, couldn't even put 100 back on in 2.5hrs |
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| 23:39.44 | nvz | idk everything sounds the same.. I just dont want it to take so long to transfer songs saying its "converting" them when there is no reason to convert them. I guess I'll look into it in more detail at a later date, I don't see anything in the settings related to converting files and nobody seems to be aware of this issue so.. I'll just put a pin in it for now |
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