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| 00:03.51 | scottj | is there a way to make a file so that when contents are read from it they are removed? like everytime it is cat-ed whatever was cat-ed would no longer be in the file |
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| 00:04.52 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | a named pipe? |
| 00:05.14 | somiaj | scottj: bit by default, what are you really trying to do? Why do you want a file to be erased after (or parts of it) after it is read? |
| 00:05.21 | somiaj | s/bit/not/ |
| 00:07.41 | scottj | somiaj: irssi+fnotify+libnotify, right now are redisplayed bc I'm tailing the file and when I restart the process it redisplays the last 10 notifications. I'm thinking JWGUBNYMGBQWOI might be right and if I can change the file to be a named pipe then at startup ti would not display messages that have already been displayed bc they'd no longer be in the "file" |
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| 00:10.32 | scottj | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI: thanks, I think that will work |
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| 00:12.00 | somiaj | scottj: have you looked at watch? would that work? |
| 00:13.34 | somiaj | you could watch the output of a command and it will only display the changes |
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| 00:13.40 | _xubuntu_ | hi |
| 00:14.01 | _xubuntu_ | where is mouse config file? |
| 00:14.29 | scottj | somiaj: somiaj yeah, watch is cool. I don't think it's as good though for this case. |
| 00:14.32 | somiaj | _xubuntu_: do you run debian? Also what do you mean by mouse config file? |
| 00:14.33 | _xubuntu_ | i need turn off touch pad one finger scrolling |
| 00:15.11 | AFlyingMonkey | is it possible to connect to a remote host via thunderbird and then download the emails from the host? |
| 00:15.13 | somiaj | _xubuntu_: not sure how easy this is gonna be, this is done via X and the mouse driver. It could be hardware issue, not sure if xset can disable certain mouse buttons. |
| 00:15.31 | somiaj | AFlyingMonkey: what do you mean by connect. does the remote host have imap or pop3 on it? |
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| 00:16.07 | _xubuntu_ | somiaj thanks for your reply |
| 00:16.11 | somiaj | AFlyingMonkey: or does the remote host have thunderbird on it and you just want to get a copy of the local emails? |
| 00:16.35 | AFlyingMonkey | somiaj: my local computer has thunderbird on it. I have a vps running debian that I want to get mail off of |
| 00:16.50 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | _xubuntu_: if your touchpad you can use synclient |
| 00:16.50 | somiaj | AFlyingMonkey: how is the mail stored on that machine? |
| 00:16.54 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | er |
| 00:16.56 | AFlyingMonkey | somiaj: maildir |
| 00:17.00 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | _xubuntu_: if your touchpad uses synaptic you can use synclient |
| 00:17.06 | AFlyingMonkey | at the moment |
| 00:17.13 | somiaj | AFlyingMonkey: but I mean is there an actual mail server on that debian vps? |
| 00:17.30 | _xubuntu_ | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI yes it is synaptic. |
| 00:17.42 | _xubuntu_ | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI thank you |
| 00:17.48 | AFlyingMonkey | somiaj: postfix is running and receiving mail sent from localhost, Im sorting out some DNS issues before I test from GMail etc |
| 00:18.20 | somiaj | AFlyingMonkey: if you don't just want to copy the files (the whole maildir) say via scp, rsync, you will to install and configure either an imap or pop3 server |
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| 00:19.02 | AFlyingMonkey | somiaj: configurethe MTA to work with it to or does the MDA just use they file system? |
| 00:19.06 | somiaj | but once you install an imap or pop3 server you can easily connect to the server with any email client and get the mails |
| 00:19.30 | somiaj | this is slightly different the mta is different than the server to allow remote users to easily get mails off of it |
| 00:19.46 | somiaj | I belive dovecot is a nice method to use (I used it once). Plenty of howto's out there for dovecot + postfix |
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| 00:20.41 | AFlyingMonkey | somiaj: so configure postfix for dovecot and then use thunderbird to connect to that? |
| 00:21.02 | somiaj | AFlyingMonkey: I forget the details, only set this up once a while ago. Again this is the most common method |
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| 00:21.19 | somiaj | AFlyingMonkey: if you only need to get them off once, you can just copy the whole maildir, I think thunderbird can read maildirs directally |
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| 00:22.19 | AFlyingMonkey | somiaj: nope dovecot seems like tis the right route to look into! thanks! |
| 00:22.33 | somiaj | AFlyingMonkey: note if you already have postfix configured and working, for the most part dovecot is independent |
| 00:22.45 | somiaj | you just need to tell dovecot where the users mail is stored (and how it is stored) |
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| 00:24.55 | izanagisan | good night. I'm calm, but I haven't been able to solve my problem |
| 00:25.04 | izanagisan | furthermore, my server won't boot from LiveCD |
| 00:25.05 | izanagisan | : ( |
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| 00:29.41 | nell | How do I extend the root partition of a crypt_luks container? I have it unmounted in a live environment but gparted doesn't let me do what thou wilts! |
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| 00:47.47 | doublehp | in lighttpd how do i use CGI instead of fastcgi ? |
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| 00:48.41 | izanagisan | is it possible to run Debian from a LiveUSB? |
| 00:48.54 | izanagisan | and recover an isntallation where I dismounted / |
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| 00:59.50 | somiaj | izanagisan: yes |
| 01:00.16 | somiaj | doublehp: is there a lighttpd doc/channel, they would probably be of better help |
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| 01:01.55 | Cultist | is there a target date for 7.0 going stable? |
| 01:02.42 | dvs | Cultist: no, never, jamais |
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| 01:03.30 | Cultist | and also, when it does go stable, is it possible/easy to switch from -testing to stable updates? |
| 01:03.38 | Cultist | if on a -testing machine |
| 01:03.58 | dvs | Cultist: I'd change the name to wheezy right now. |
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| 01:05.06 | johnfg | hey guys |
| 01:05.28 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | hey guy |
| 01:05.39 | johnfg | I just got this at the end of an aptitude update: W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://http.debian.net sid Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG AED4B06F473041FA Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (6.0/squeeze) <ftpmaster@debian.org> |
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| 01:06.06 | abrotman | sounds like a bad mirror sync |
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| 01:06.46 | somiaj | Cultist: when it is ready, which means when the rc-bugs reach zero |
| 01:06.54 | somiaj | Cultist: there are about 40 (some already have fixes) rc bugs left |
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| 01:08.29 | somiaj | Cultist: and listen to dvs, use 'wheezy' instead of 'testing' in your soruces.list, then you will always be wheezy and once it becomes stable you will start to recive security fixes |
| 01:08.46 | izanagisan | somiaj: can you point me in the right direction? |
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| 01:09.10 | izanagisan | somiaj: I'm really in trouble with a production server... |
| 01:09.50 | johnfg | abrotman: So, just try again? |
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| 01:10.16 | abrotman | johnfg: sure, or wait a bit and try |
| 01:10.43 | johnfg | abrotman: It has been such a long time since I got a message like that, I forgot what to do. |
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| 01:13.19 | somiaj | izanagisan: well have you downloaded a live .iso form live.debian.net and put it on a usb drive yet? |
| 01:13.28 | somiaj | izanagisan: after you do that, then you have to boot the computer off that usb |
| 01:13.38 | izanagisan | ok, I'm dowloading from here |
| 01:13.45 | izanagisan | http://archive.debian.net/hu/etch/amd64/linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64/download |
| 01:13.54 | izanagisan | it's a server with that version on it |
| 01:14.01 | izanagisan | I'm going to put it on my USB |
| 01:14.11 | izanagisan | man, it's been 10 hours of trouble |
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| 01:14.28 | somiaj | I'm not sure if the etch images were set up for usb, you may have to put it on a cdrom |
| 01:14.45 | izanagisan | this server won't boot from CD-ROM : ( |
| 01:14.51 | izanagisan | that's why I'm trying with USB |
| 01:14.58 | somiaj | You should be able to use a squeeze iamge just fine (when you chroot you don't really need the same version) |
| 01:15.03 | izanagisan | can I re-mouint the filesystem with a live Ubuntu distro? |
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| 01:15.28 | somiaj | yea, any linux live image should work |
| 01:15.38 | izanagisan | those are good news |
| 01:15.39 | somiaj | you just need to support the binaries inside the server (or the chroot) |
| 01:15.54 | izanagisan | I'll run from live USB and come back |
| 01:16.00 | izanagisan | support the binaries? I'm lost again |
| 01:16.03 | somiaj | for example amd64 won't work on a i386 live image |
| 01:16.06 | izanagisan | ah |
| 01:16.19 | somiaj | other way usually works, since most amd64 kernels support i386 binaries |
| 01:16.28 | izanagisan | the server has that amd64 version and I'm downloadin Ubuntu 12.10 64 bit |
| 01:16.49 | somiaj | that should work, though I'd recomend squeeze images |
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| 01:17.24 | izanagisan | okk |
| 01:17.34 | izanagisan | will download Squeeze as well |
| 01:17.44 | somiaj | the one you use is a matter of taste |
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| 01:37.06 | boudicca | help, i'm locked out of my lxde desktop, and can only access any DE on this machine as 'root', which isnt ideal, how do iget back in as user please? |
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| 01:37.46 | somiaj | boudicca: need more details, that doesn't sound like anything normal |
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| 01:38.48 | abrotman | sounds like a permissions problem where someone was mucking with sometihng |
| 01:38.51 | boudiccas | i was trying out some wm, i forget its name, and altered ./xintric accordingly. i didnt like its results so i tried altering it back again and logged off, andn ow i cant get back on as user. |
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| 01:39.20 | abrotman | you forgot the name? |
| 01:39.23 | somiaj | can't get back in? yoru user can't even loginto say a console? |
| 01:39.25 | boudiccas | i've restored ./xintric from backup, but its still happening |
| 01:39.37 | boudiccas | abrotman, yes |
| 01:39.49 | abrotman | doesn't believe |
| 01:40.03 | boudiccas | i can get to a text login but dont know how to convert that to a lxde gui |
| 01:40.15 | izanagisan | somiaj: Ubuntu Desktop won't run from USB like Ubuntu Server did |
| 01:40.22 | izanagisan | going to try with Debian Sqeeze |
| 01:40.33 | izanagisan | is that a particular version, or something else? |
| 01:40.47 | somiaj | boudicca: are you using gdm3 to login, if so what session do you have selected? |
| 01:41.13 | somiaj | izanagisan: I don't know anything about the ubuntu images, but the live images should run just fine, the desktop one just may require a lot of resources so is your machien to old for the resource demands? |
| 01:41.16 | boudiccas | somiaj, lightdm, and lxde |
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| 01:41.46 | izanagisan | not at all, it's an IBM server x3650 |
| 01:42.33 | mroe | can someone help me figure out why this cron script it failing? lines 5-8 is the email I get when the script fails: http://paste.debian.net/249808/ |
| 01:42.35 | somiaj | izanagisan: well nog toing to debug ubuntu images, just get a live usb image up |
| 01:42.48 | boudiccas | i was trying to access cinnamon, but i cant access it due to it being based on gnome3 and this machine being underpwered and not able to access gnome 3 at all |
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| 01:43.23 | izanagisan | alright I'm on the Sqeeze download page |
| 01:43.57 | izanagisan | I se a section for Other images (netboot, USB stick, etc) |
| 01:44.03 | izanagisan | and there I find amd64 |
| 01:44.17 | izanagisan | here: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ am I going the right way? |
| 01:45.25 | izanagisan | also checking live.debian.net but not really understanding where should I go |
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| 01:46.29 | boudiccas | right, i've done 'dpkg-reconfigure lightdm' and reinstated gdm3 so i'll logg off and try to get back in again |
| 01:46.32 | abrotman | mroe: i doubt that should be #!/bin/bash/ .. maybe just #!/bin/bash |
| 01:47.08 | somiaj | izanagisan: live.debian.net has links for direct downloads of live images. You probabaly don't want a squeeze install image because the tools are very minimial |
| 01:47.12 | mroe | son of a bitch! |
| 01:47.14 | mroe | abrotman: thanks |
| 01:47.18 | abrotman | mroe: all fixed up ? |
| 01:47.28 | izanagisan | somiaj: found this debian-live-6.0.7-amd64-gnome-desktop.iso |
| 01:47.36 | izanagisan | oh |
| 01:47.36 | mroe | I've been looking at this stupid script for weeks |
| 01:47.40 | izanagisan | so not Sqeeze |
| 01:47.43 | mroe | I have ~300 emails from this thing |
| 01:47.59 | abrotman | mroe: sorry |
| 01:48.09 | mroe | abrotman: I should have asked you sooner |
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| 01:48.29 | abrotman | mroe: or #bash at least :) |
| 01:49.05 | somiaj | izanagisan: 6.0.7 is squeeze |
| 01:49.14 | izanagisan | yeahh, I see that in the adjaent info |
| 01:49.15 | somiaj | you probablay odn't need the gnome desktop image, but the one you chose is up to you |
| 01:49.20 | somiaj | I'd use the recovery image |
| 01:49.24 | izanagisan | okk |
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| 01:50.14 | izanagisan | somiaj: found this under usb-hdd debian-live-6.0.7-amd64-rescue.img |
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| 01:52.00 | izanagisan | (I know I'm at a loss here but thanks for being so patient) |
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| 01:52.27 | somiaj | grab a live image, boot your server off of it. I do not see why this is so hard |
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| 01:52.55 | boudiccas | right, i'm back in to lxde by going through gdm3, but i would like to use lightdm in the future. how do i clear it so that i cna logon okay with it please? |
| 01:53.23 | izanagisan | it's hard because I'm unexperienced I'm afraid. But your help is very much appreciated |
| 01:53.25 | somiaj | figure out what errors you get and then create a correct session |
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| 01:53.44 | somiaj | izanagisan: so read the documentation. (: |
| 01:55.16 | izanagisan | I will! but the rush with today's problem on the server has me in this desperate situation |
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| 01:56.32 | kleanchap | Does OpenOffice have more features than LibreOffice? |
| 01:57.07 | somiaj | kleanchap: I would say no, since libreoffice was the replacment of openoffice when orcal obtained it with sun |
| 01:57.43 | somiaj | kleanchap: i.e. libreoffice has continued to devolpe, not sure if openoffice has or not under orcale. But in debian from wheezy on libreoffice is the one you get |
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| 01:58.11 | abrotman | OO has had releases .. but it's not the same stuff |
| 01:58.23 | kleanchap | somiaj: Thnx |
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| 02:10.10 | boudiccas | this is the culprit stopping me form logging in to lxde as user ... '-rw------- 1 root root 51 Apr 16 01:51 .Xauthority'. just needs chowning and i should be alright |
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| 02:16.54 | izanagisan | ok, so I was able to run ubuntu desktop from a LiveUSB (still downloading the Debian image, so I'm trying this first). I now hoave to remount my filesystem mistankenly dismounted by the command mount / -n -o remount,rw |
| 02:18.26 | somiaj | izanagisan: no |
| 02:18.34 | somiaj | izanagisan: you have to mount your root filesystem somehwere, say /mnt |
| 02:18.45 | somiaj | then you have to mount /dev and /proc (maybe /sys) in there with mount --bind |
| 02:18.49 | somiaj | then chroot into that mount point |
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| 02:19.57 | izanagisan | somiaj: will do |
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| 02:27.43 | boudiccas | yes, i confirm that was the source of my difficulties, but now i'm back as user again, thank goodness |
| 02:28.31 | boudiccas | but it did give me a chance o test my 'disaster recovery plan', which failed! so tomorrow i'll see about getting that sorted and working again. |
| 02:28.54 | themill | (bad boudiccas running X things as root...) |
| 02:29.13 | boudiccas | themill: i had no choice,i couldnt log on as user |
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| 03:25.25 | Cuken | I'm having problems getting my NAS to mount after my virtual machine starts |
| 03:25.41 | Cuken | i have my mount command inside of fstab, but I think its running before the virtual machine fully kicks off |
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| 03:38.45 | Cuken | Does running something during startup change the account thats running it? |
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| 03:46.37 | mrsleepy | hmm |
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| 03:48.14 | mrsleepy | So I was trying to setup syslinux in place of grub and granted this is my first time editting anything to do with the bootloader |
| 03:48.23 | mrsleepy | well I bricked my netbook |
| 03:48.56 | mrsleepy | so I reinstalled my os I was just wondering what sort of resources does grub even use I'm aware of the /boot directory and |
| 03:49.22 | mrsleepy | nvm on the and bit haha |
| 03:49.38 | mrsleepy | anybody know what else I should be researching? |
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| 03:50.47 | mrsleepy | nobody? :[ |
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| 03:58.47 | yudi_ | is there a service/application for point to point voice chat/calls, like SSH for voice calls rather than running an asterisk server |
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| 04:09.46 | Cuken | :yudi are you looking to host it yourself? |
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| 04:27.45 | somiaj | yudi_: what do you consider a voice call, there are various voip options |
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| 04:33.49 | somethinginteres | I am trying to simply download a package and all of its dependencies. I am running "testing" but need the stable packages. Can somebody help me out with the command. Trying to get wpasupplicant. |
| 04:34.07 | somethinginteres | I don't want to install them I just want the debs |
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| 04:47.57 | yudi_ | somiaj: like skype call but with no middle man, Just want to be absolutely sure that the connection is secure and point to point |
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| 04:57.40 | isaias | is there any open source flash plugin for irefox? |
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| 04:57.51 | isaias | firefox |
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| 04:59.05 | VZ2ShaeC | hi all qustion: how to install all needed prerequsits for to install vmware tools in squeeze 6.0.6? |
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| 04:59.50 | g3n3s1s | isaias gnash or lightspark perhaps? |
| 05:01.24 | isaias | g3n3s1s: I have gnash, apperently. Why cant I see flash? |
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| 05:05.53 | g3n3s1s | you also need the browser plugin I think |
| 05:05.57 | kingsley | Does anyone here happen to know which package, if any, can write multiple live linux ISOs to one USB memory stick|pen drive|thumb drive, so that booting from it gives the user a menu allowing him or her to choose which live OS to boot? |
| 05:06.05 | maik | is the best bet to get Gnome 3.8 on Debian system to use a Debian derivative? i'm really not a fan of Ubuntu but am also restless when it comes to new features |
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| 05:06.45 | maik | kingsley: have you http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/ |
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| 05:07.32 | g3n3s1s | i know that there is a browser plugin for lightspark in ubuntu. i have used debian just for my servers |
| 05:08.20 | beepie | anyone here using kfreebsd? |
| 05:08.34 | VZ2ShaeC | hi all qustion: how to install all needed prerequsits for to install vmware tools in squeeze 6.0.6? |
| 05:09.41 | kingsley | maik: Yes, yumi is very close. My only concern is that it runs on MicroSoft Windows, and I use Debian Linux. |
| 05:10.11 | maik | kingsley: the pendrivelinux site also has a cross platform tool that does the same thing, though i can't remember the name offhand |
| 05:11.26 | kingsley | maik: I'd like to see it. I found no matches in Google's indices for |
| 05:11.30 | kingsley | site:pendrivelinux.com cross platform |
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| 05:11.37 | maik | http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ |
| 05:11.49 | maik | http://liveusb.info/dotclear/ though it's french |
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| 05:14.31 | kingsley | maik: I'll check it out. |
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| 06:40.31 | kleind | Hi. I'd like to configure a bridge with no bridge_ports in /etc/network/interfaces. However, neither an empty "bridge_ports" nor not configuring this at all gives what I want. Any pointers? |
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| 07:08.01 | cheasee | hi |
| 07:08.11 | Towzzer | "Cheasee it!" -bender |
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| 07:17.11 | somethinginteres | what format does the USB stick for netinst.iso need to be? |
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| 07:18.32 | nevyn | somethinginteres: doesn't matter. it's gonna be blown away |
| 07:18.45 | nevyn | you dd the iso directly to the device |
| 07:18.48 | nevyn | or cp |
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| 07:19.00 | nevyn | cp is better I'm just an old fart |
| 07:19.15 | somethinginteres | nevyn: just cp the iso directly onto the stick? |
| 07:19.32 | nevyn | cp the iso to the device that is the stick |
| 07:19.51 | somethinginteres | nevyn: roger that |
| 07:19.56 | somethinginteres | nevyn: cheers |
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| 07:20.07 | rww | erm, s/cp/cat/ ? |
| 07:20.08 | nevyn | so find the device name of the stick and then do cp netinst.iso /dev/sd<Whatever> |
| 07:20.45 | rww | yeah, I think you're thinking of cat netinst.iso > /dev/sdX. |
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| 07:21.12 | nevyn | cp netinst.iso /dev/sdX will work too |
| 07:21.18 | nevyn | and will be faster than cat. |
| 07:21.55 | rww | looks skeptical |
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| 07:23.57 | brdxufan | ls |
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| 07:51.08 | Anirban1987 | I am not able to listen to audio |
| 07:52.13 | truexfan81 | Anirban1987: more info? |
| 07:52.35 | truexfan81 | Anirban1987: like what version of debian, what sound hardware, etc |
| 07:54.55 | Anirban1987 | truexfan81 : Debian Squeeze , Realtek® ALC 887 8-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC |
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| 07:55.24 | truexfan81 | Anirban1987: if you open a terminal and type lspci does the device show up in the list? |
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| 07:56.42 | Anirban1987 | truexfan81 : yeah , but as Intel HD Audio !! |
| 07:57.31 | truexfan81 | thats fine, so the os recognizes it, sounds like a driver issue |
| 07:58.22 | nevyn | Anirban1987: run alsa-info.sh wget http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh and either upload or copy into paste.debian.net |
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| 07:58.49 | truexfan81 | ^ |
| 07:59.12 | truexfan81 | Anirban1987: that info will be very helpful for us |
| 07:59.38 | nevyn | grumbles that it's still not shipped with debian. |
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| 08:00.20 | truexfan81 | nevyn: i think i may have pulseaudio running on my netbook |
| 08:01.04 | truexfan81 | nope |
| 08:01.19 | truexfan81 | inxi says its using ALSA |
| 08:01.31 | nevyn | truexfan81: #531005 is what I'm grumbling about. |
| 08:01.59 | truexfan81 | hexchat shows that as a link but nothing happens when i click it lol |
| 08:02.06 | truexfan81 | oh |
| 08:02.12 | truexfan81 | it thinks its a channel lol |
| 08:02.21 | nevyn | !bts 531005 |
| 08:02.50 | truexfan81 | bot is lagging? |
| 08:02.55 | jelly-home | ,bug 531005 |
| 08:02.56 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/531005 in alsa-utils (open): «[alsa-utils] wishlist: Add alsa-info.sh script»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2009-05-29; last modified: 2009-05-29. |
| 08:03.37 | nevyn | thanks judd |
| 08:03.42 | nevyn | bleh jelly-home |
| 08:03.43 | truexfan81 | yeah that should be included |
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| 08:04.09 | Anirban1987 | truexfan81 : permission denied !! |
| 08:04.24 | nevyn | Anirban1987: you need to make it executable. |
| 08:04.40 | Anirban1987 | nevyn : how ? |
| 08:04.50 | nevyn | Anirban1987: chmod +x alsa-info.sh |
| 08:05.15 | nevyn | you should also check it's sane and isn't going to destroy you're system (it won't but you don't know me ;) |
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| 08:05.49 | nevyn | s/you're/your/ #what is wrong with me |
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| 08:06.03 | truexfan81 | whoa |
| 08:06.10 | truexfan81 | handy script |
| 08:06.18 | truexfan81 | nevyn: check mine out http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=bfcf4242ceaf3810cb3d10dae412eda5b5dd3a91 |
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| 08:07.24 | nevyn | hehe... |
| 08:07.37 | nevyn | [ 6.102837] acer_wmi: Blacklisted hardware detected - not loading |
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| 08:07.46 | amirishere | HI, I have a fresh Squeeze setup on a board with a HD7750 graphics. fglrx works fine when using one monitor, but is buggy when using dual-head. I have tried the fglrx from backport and wheezy and even sid. I have even (god forbid!) tried the newest none beta driver installed by the package provided by amd. They all act the same, buggy on dual-head, fine on single monitor. Where do I report this? |
| 08:08.05 | truexfan81 | nevyn: and yet hw works just fine lol |
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| 08:11.04 | truexfan81 | Anirban1987: any luck with it? |
| 08:11.08 | nevyn | truexfan81: the wmi thing is unrelated to audio... |
| 08:11.19 | nevyn | I think |
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| 08:11.30 | truexfan81 | eh? so what is it? |
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| 08:11.46 | truexfan81 | i'm guessing the bot knows? lol |
| 08:12.29 | Anirban1987 | truexfan81 : working |
| 08:12.52 | truexfan81 | ok when it asks to upload tell it y |
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| 08:13.01 | nevyn | truexfan81: is it a acer laptop? |
| 08:13.04 | truexfan81 | it will then give you a link like the one i posted |
| 08:13.10 | truexfan81 | nevyn: acer netbook |
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| 08:13.36 | nevyn | hrm maybe it would do something useful for you. it's blacklisted by default cause it breaks some intel wifi network hardware |
| 08:13.53 | nevyn | but it makes the wifi/bluetooth switch and leds work apparently |
| 08:14.13 | truexfan81 | intel wifi? |
| 08:14.15 | truexfan81 | ok |
| 08:14.28 | truexfan81 | i wonder which blacklist file its in |
| 08:15.06 | nevyn | http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/laptops/acer-wmi.txt |
| 08:15.13 | nevyn | truexfan81: read this ^^ |
| 08:15.26 | nevyn | it's probably blacklisted because it's the aspire one or something. |
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| 08:16.06 | truexfan81 | yep netbook is an aspire one |
| 08:16.29 | nevyn | so don't touch it it's busted :) |
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| 08:16.39 | nevyn | Anirban1987: how's it going there? |
| 08:17.36 | truexfan81 | nevyn: yeah wifi is working perfectly so i'm not gonna mess with it |
| 08:18.13 | truexfan81 | nevyn: i wonder if he would have any better luck with something newer like wheezy |
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| 08:18.42 | nevyn | is holding out for more data... |
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| 08:21.28 | Anirban1987 | truexfan81 : http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=111d79f0918db393e313b9ceff7118c8249aa303 |
| 08:21.38 | truexfan81 | nevyn: ^ |
| 08:21.47 | Agiofws | hello since installing wheezy and gnome3 my system lockups are VERY VERY frequent i managed to isolate or get a log file from dmesg which is here http://codepad.org/ifWoL6n6 can anyone tell me if my system lock ups are caused by the fglrx driver ? |
| 08:22.12 | Anirban1987 | truexfan81 : also my debian is getting unstable .... softwares crashing every now & then |
| 08:22.26 | Agiofws | is there a gnome related channel ? |
| 08:22.37 | truexfan81 | Agiofws: #gnome |
| 08:22.46 | babilen | Agiofws: Looks like it, yeah. How did you install it and does the same happen if you use the radeon driver? |
| 08:23.01 | babilen | Agiofws: And most gnome channels (at least the populated ones) are on irc.gnome.org |
| 08:23.43 | truexfan81 | Anirban1987: lots of info, give us a bit to read it |
| 08:24.05 | Agiofws | babilen, well since it was too frequent i uninstalled it by its script and now its using some kind of kernel mode driver i vesa ? i don't know ... whats my best option ? BUT since i uninstalled i managed to get back into my gui ... what are my options babilen ? |
| 08:24.25 | nevyn | Anirban1987: so it looks like the driver is buggy. you could try fixing it by specifying a model but you're probably better off upgrading your kernel. |
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| 08:24.49 | babilen | Agiofws: "It's script" ? That sounds as if you used the (totally unsupported and unrecommended) installer from amd.com rather than the Debian package. Is that correct? |
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| 08:25.23 | Anirban1987 | nevyn : tell me the procedure |
| 08:25.40 | truexfan81 | nevyn: how much newer a kernel can he get on squeeze? |
| 08:25.42 | Agiofws | yes thats what i do i download the amd driver for my ati card and use there" s/w ... |
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| 08:26.22 | Agiofws | is there a debian package that supports 3d acceleration like the amd driver does for example ? |
| 08:26.36 | babilen | Agiofws: Well, that was a mistake. I would *strongly* recommend to not use random installers but the Debian packages. I have no idea how to completely remove that installation and get your system back into a supported (and hopefully less crashy) configuration. |
| 08:26.42 | babilen | dpkg: tell Agiofws -about fglrx |
| 08:26.45 | babilen | dpkg: tell Agiofws -about fglrx dkms |
| 08:26.47 | Agiofws | because now gnome3 gui has changed due to limitation of the 3d accel ? |
| 08:26.59 | Anirban1987 | truexfan81 & nevyn : confused |
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| 08:27.56 | truexfan81 | Anirban1987: if there is a kernel upgrade in the repos running a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade would install it |
| 08:28.15 | truexfan81 | Anirban1987: wait a minute tho, nevyn may have another way in mind |
| 08:28.16 | babilen | Agiofws: The bot just told you the supported way to install the fglrx driver. I have personally always preferred the radeon driver (with libgl1-mesa-dri and firmware-linux-nonfree installed for 3d accel), but using the amd.com installer is /not supported/ by us here in Debian. I would join #ati and ask them how to deal with this situation. My recommendation would be not to use their installer and/or driver. |
| 08:28.30 | Agiofws | babilen, thats my card VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV630 [Mobility Radeon HD 2600] |
| 08:28.48 | nevyn | Anirban1987: there are two options.. upgrade to wheezy or install a bdo kernel |
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| 08:29.09 | Agiofws | ok fine but will i have 3d accel... with debians radeon driver ? |
| 08:29.09 | Anirban1987 | nevyn : bdo kernel ? |
| 08:29.30 | Agiofws | ok |
| 08:29.42 | truexfan81 | Anirban1987: as a wheezy user i can tell you that even tho its labeled as "testing" it is quite stable |
| 08:29.54 | babilen | Agiofws: yeah, that card is well supported by the radeon driver (cf. http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature) |
| 08:29.57 | nevyn | !tell Anirban1987 about bdo kernel |
| 08:30.18 | Agiofws | ok cool |
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| 08:31.08 | babilen | Agiofws: fglrx *is* the same driver as the one you downloaded and installer. It just comes with an installer that doesn't blow up your system. The radeon driver (not fglrx!) also supports 3d acceleration *iff* you have libgl1-mesa-dri and firmware-linux-nonfree installed. (cf. <radeon>) |
| 08:31.12 | Anirban1987 | nevyn : ok , i will upgrade to wheezy . tell me the procedure |
| 08:31.21 | babilen | dpkg: tell Agiofws -about dkms |
| 08:31.22 | nevyn | !wheezy |
| 08:31.33 | truexfan81 | Anirban1987: do you have the ability to do a clean install? |
| 08:31.51 | nevyn | Anirban1987: how invested are you in what you have right now? |
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| 08:32.34 | babilen | Agiofws: The fact that both AMD and NVIDIA are providing suboptimal installers that are just not well integrated into Debian causes us tremendous grief. I hope that you can remove every trace of your installation now and get back to the previous state. |
| 08:32.45 | Agiofws | ok i have main non free in sources.list |
| 08:32.52 | Agiofws | whats my net step ? |
| 08:32.54 | babilen | Agiofws: You are missing contrib |
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| 08:33.10 | Anirban1987 | truexfan81 : too much ... as I have done a netinst , I have spent considerable amount of time & bandwidth |
| 08:33.22 | Agiofws | Linux ixus 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.41-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 08:33.31 | Agiofws | look @ www.imagebin.org/254207 |
| 08:33.38 | Agiofws | no i don't think so ^^ |
| 08:33.46 | nevyn | Anirban1987: you're going to replace most of that with wheezy anyway... |
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| 08:33.57 | babilen | Agiofws: The bot told you already -- Read the <fglrx dkms> factoid if you want that or the <radeon> factoid if you want that. But first you have to make sure that your currently installed fglrx/amd.com driver has been removed completely. |
| 08:34.16 | truexfan81 | Anirban1987: ^ you would install wheezy the same way you installed squeeze |
| 08:34.37 | Agiofws | look @ www.imagebin.org/254208 |
| 08:34.44 | babilen | Agiofws: Well, "I have main non free" in sources.list does not mention contrib (hence my comment -- and please use textual pastebins (e.g. http://paste.debian.net ) for textual data :) |
| 08:35.01 | truexfan81 | Anirban1987: i did the wheezy netinstall and went with xfce, i am quite happy with it |
| 08:35.04 | Agiofws | babilen, i think it has |
| 08:35.15 | Agiofws | ok |
| 08:35.34 | Anirban1987 | truexfan81 : i understand .... but why a stable release like squeeze is in such pathetic condition that one can't do internet surfing , email , listen to songs and watch videos |
| 08:35.37 | babilen | Agiofws: Also make sure that you remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you have one. |
| 08:36.12 | truexfan81 | nevyn: can you answer that one? |
| 08:36.32 | Agiofws | babilen, should i run that command that the bot tells me too ? |
| 08:36.42 | Agiofws | or can i do it via synaptic ? |
| 08:37.12 | babilen | Agiofws: squeeze is quite old these days and wheezy's release is imminent. "stable" also means "not changing" in the context of Debian and has very little to do with "usable" (we naturally try to ensure the latter, but …)_ |
| 08:37.27 | babilen | Agiofws: You cannot run this command via synaptic |
| 08:37.38 | nevyn | babilen: did you mean Anirban1987 ? |
| 08:37.58 | nevyn | Anirban1987: if you install a bdo kernel it'll probably be ok "hardware enablement" |
| 08:38.13 | amirishere | @babilen: When you use the ati installer you are breaking the apt packaging system by installing stuff without letting the packaging system know. |
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| 08:38.17 | babilen | nevyn: Yes, I did ..... Anirban1987 ^^^^ the comment about squeeze was meant for you :) |
| 08:38.18 | frdmn | hey |
| 08:38.29 | Agiofws | no xorg.conf but the latest file is called xorg.conf.fglrx-7 |
| 08:38.32 | nevyn | but debian stable doesn't get new stuff including new kernels. or new X so it can be old that new hardware isn't well supported. |
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| 08:38.44 | Agiofws | or do i just delete all of them ? |
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| 08:39.27 | Agiofws | xorg.conf.original-7 xorg.conf.fglrx-7 xorg.conf.fglrx-6 xorg.conf.original-6 xorg.conf.fglrx-5 etc... |
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| 08:39.40 | babilen | Agiofws: You can delete them or move them somewhere else. They shouldn't be used though unless they are in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ and their name ends in .conf |
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| 08:39.54 | Anirban1987 | so what should i do .. |
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| 08:40.02 | Anirban1987 | sudo apt-get dist upgrade ? |
| 08:40.23 | Agiofws | babilen, i have no such directory |
| 08:40.56 | babilen | Agiofws: You can delete them or move them somewhere else. They shouldn't be used though unless they are in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ and their name ends in .conf -- The instructions from the bot then continue with the configuration of Xorg to use fglrx in lieu of radeon and you have to reboot to enable the radeon blacklist. You /might/ still have a manual blacklist somewhere ... no idea what you did when you used the amd.com installer. |
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| 08:41.24 | babilen | Agiofws: Do with them whatever you want. I certainly don't need them ;) |
| 08:42.06 | Agiofws | ok moved them |
| 08:42.13 | Agiofws | no execute the command |
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| 08:42.47 | babilen | fwiw, I would personally just use the radeon driver, but meh |
| 08:43.06 | truexfan81 | Anirban1987: we can't make that decision for you, but i can say this: the bdo kernel may or may not fix your sound issue, upgrading to wheezy would most likely fix it and would also fix the stability issues |
| 08:43.53 | Anirban1987 | truexfan81 : ok , tell me how to upgrade to wheezy ? |
| 08:43.55 | Agiofws | babilen, the command downloads the radeon driver installs it and fixes the xorg file to load the radeon driver ? |
| 08:44.21 | truexfan81 | Anirban1987: grab the wheezy netinstall iso and run it just like you did with squeeze |
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| 08:44.41 | rww | dpkg: squeeze->wheezy |
| 08:44.41 | dpkg | Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" is almost ready! In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "squeeze" to "wheezy" (noting that <wheezy-backports> have changed on the mirrors). apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. The release notes for upgrading aren't ready yet, but ask me about <wheezy release notes> for a preview and report any undocumented issues you have with the upgrade process with "reportbug upgrade-reports". |
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| 08:45.07 | truexfan81 | smh |
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| 08:45.21 | babilen | Agiofws: It doesn't fix anything. It simply creates a configuration file (/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fglrx.conf) that configures Xorg to use the fglrx driver in lieu of the radeon driver. |
| 08:45.26 | truexfan81 | rww: how many issues are likely to arise from upgrading that way? |
| 08:45.35 | rww | truexfan81: none. This is Debian, not Ubuntu. |
| 08:45.40 | truexfan81 | k |
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| 08:45.55 | truexfan81 | Anirban1987: do what the bot says then |
| 08:46.08 | Agiofws | lieu? |
| 08:46.13 | Agiofws | instead ? |
| 08:46.19 | jargon | anybody got their android to mount on wheezy? |
| 08:46.29 | Agiofws | http://codepad.org/X64zVAo2 |
| 08:46.35 | babilen | Agiofws: yes |
| 08:46.37 | nevyn | jargon: no! mtp? |
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| 08:46.55 | Agiofws | jargon, why don't you use samba or nfs ? |
| 08:47.01 | jargon | nevyn: yeah i'm trying with mtpfs and i can't seem to connect |
| 08:47.10 | jargon | samsung galaxy note2 |
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| 08:47.15 | nevyn | me too :( |
| 08:47.28 | nevyn | mtpfs just was a world of fail for me on sid. |
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| 08:47.39 | jargon | Agiofws: how is it done with samba or nfs |
| 08:47.53 | jargon | nevyn: same here! :-( |
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| 08:48.58 | babilen | nevyn: that might be becasue mtpfs is, by definition, a world of fail. |
| 08:49.33 | truexfan81 | babilen: i like how you phrased that, gave me a chuckle |
| 08:49.42 | Agiofws | http://codepad.org/FnCsLjqu babilen ? |
| 08:49.55 | babilen | "Oh, we have a perfectly working usb mass storage solution working. Lets create some random other usb storage system, give it a different name and make sure that only people we really like can use it!" |
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| 08:50.46 | truexfan81 | offtopic question: why is the bot always changing the channel limit? |
| 08:50.50 | babilen | judd: v fglrx-legacy-driver |
| 08:50.51 | judd | Package: fglrx-legacy-driver on i386 -- experimental/non-free: 8.97.100.7-1 |
| 08:51.05 | Agiofws | babilen, its asking me now Install Fglrx driver despite unsupported graphics card? ? |
| 08:51.08 | rww | truexfan81: because it doesn't know what +j is, I expect |
| 08:51.10 | Trewas | babilen: usb mass storage is not "perfectly working" for phones, because the phone has to unmount the partition when it is mounted in a computer, unlike mtp which works at a higher level |
| 08:51.10 | Agiofws | whay should i do ? |
| 08:51.30 | Trewas | kio-mtp btw works decently, but of course only for kde and not yet packaged even in unstable... |
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| 08:52.25 | Agiofws | babilen, should i install it ? |
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| 08:52.58 | babilen | Agiofws: Looks as if your card is no longer supported by the main driver -- You can pull in fglrx-legacy-driver from experimental and switch to the one in wheezy-backports once it arrives there. Alternatively use the radeon driver, which is probably the easier, saner and better solution. Why don't you want to use it? |
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| 08:53.44 | babilen | Agiofws: You cannot install it like that. It is not in wheezy, but currently in experimental (due to the freeze) -- The plan is to provide it in wheezy-backports some time after the release, but that is not an option right now. |
| 08:53.53 | Agiofws | if it supports 3d acc why not ... |
| 08:54.03 | Agiofws | babilen, all i did was execute the command |
| 08:54.46 | babilen | I know, but the current fglrx drivers no longer support your card. You need the legacy driver which is not packaged in wheezy. |
| 08:55.16 | Agiofws | so whats my option install radeon ? |
| 08:55.16 | nevyn | babilen: so the problem it solves is a real problem |
| 08:55.34 | babilen | nevyn: What do you mean? |
| 08:55.49 | nevyn | which is people didn't like that the sdcard of their phone became unavailable in the phone when you mounted it in the pc |
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| 08:56.31 | nevyn | babilen: so usb mass storage was bad because it meant you unmounted the device on one host (the phone) then presented it as a device to another host then blah and people don't unmount devices |
| 08:56.35 | babilen | Ah, you are still on about that. |
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| 08:57.20 | Agiofws | Support of R600 and R700 chips (Radeon HD 2000/3000/4000 series) was dropped at fglrx-driver 1:12-6~beta-1.2. The latter are helped with the now separate package fglrx-legacy-driver. |
| 08:57.58 | babilen | nevyn: I don't have really have any inclination to discuss this topic in depth - I don't know enough about it to make actual factual statements as this is not my area of expertise and I, frankly, also don't care. I used to chance to make a little joke and at least one person chuckled ... |
| 08:58.05 | Agiofws | so i install the fglrx-legasy-driver which is not in wheezy ? |
| 08:58.11 | nevyn | babilen: :-P |
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| 08:58.33 | truexfan81 | chuckled |
| 08:58.37 | jargon | nevyn: if u ever get it working pls let me know |
| 08:58.47 | babilen | \o/ |
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| 08:59.38 | Agiofws | so i say no to installation babilen ? |
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| 09:00.13 | babilen | Agiofws: The fglrx-driver-legacy package is in experimental and will land in wheezy-backports sooner or later. I would recommend to use the radeon driver (remove all fgrlx crapola, the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fglrx.conf file and install libgl1-mesa-dri and firmware-linux-nonfree packages) -- Also make sure that you don't have a radeon blacklist lurkin around somewhere (from your old installation) |
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| 09:01.09 | babilen | Agiofws: Alternatively you can pull the fglrx-legacy-driver from experimental. For that you have to add experimental to your sources.list and run "aptitude -r -t experimental install fglrx-legacy-driver" |
| 09:01.17 | babilen | your decision, your work, you call :) |
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| 09:01.51 | Agiofws | can i delete fglrx with synaptic ? |
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| 09:03.06 | babilen | Agiofws: probably, but I never use it. Just purge fglrx-driver and you are done -- btw, how did you uninstall the earlier amd.com driver? |
| 09:03.50 | truexfan81 | babilen: if its anything like the nvidia installers you just run it again with --uninstall |
| 09:04.04 | babilen | (and pray to $DEITY) |
| 09:04.13 | Agiofws | from its uninstall script i already did that ... but now with the command of dpkg it has installed some fglrx packages and left some broken aswell |
| 09:04.33 | babilen | Agiofws: yes, just purge fglrx-driver and you are set |
| 09:04.39 | Agiofws | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 09:04.39 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:04.39 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:04.39 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:04.44 | babilen | *sigh* |
| 09:04.47 | truexfan81 | smh |
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| 09:04.54 | Agiofws | sorry for the flood |
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| 09:06.10 | truexfan81 | babilen: would i be correct in thinking the best way to remove those would be one at a time using sudo dpkg -r? |
| 09:06.13 | babilen | You shouldn't necessarily have broken packages now though -- please paste the entire output and that of "aptitude search ~b" to http://paste.debian.net -- I'll be away for a little while, but I am sure that someone else can tell you how to run "aptitude purge fglrx-driver" (well, that *is* the command already!) |
| 09:06.53 | babilen | truexfan81: apt-get/aptitude should work perfectly fine ... I don't yet see the need to involve dpkg directly. |
| 09:07.27 | truexfan81 | babilen: i have had to use it to fix broken packages in the past, thats why the idea came to me |
| 09:08.13 | babilen | It is necessary in certainy situations, yes. But I don't think that we reached that point yet :) |
| 09:08.19 | babilen | certainy! |
| 09:08.23 | Agiofws | do i add experemental to these lines in apt/sources.list |
| 09:08.26 | Agiofws | deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib experimental |
| 09:08.27 | Agiofws | deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib experimental |
| 09:08.36 | babilen | scowls at Agiofws |
| 09:08.36 | Agiofws | or to all of my lines ? |
| 09:08.43 | babilen | Agiofws: don't do that |
| 09:08.47 | truexfan81 | babilen: agreed, just throwing it out there |
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| 09:09.10 | babilen | Agiofws: Please show me the entire output of the command that failed earlier to http://paste.debian.net along with that of "aptitude search ~b" |
| 09:09.27 | babilen | Agiofws: And don't use experimental. It doesn't work like that. |
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| 09:09.50 | Agiofws | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/249857/ |
| 09:09.56 | grn | ok, I solved my problem. To print modifiers run: xmodmap -pm |
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| 09:10.52 | babilen | Agiofws: Ok, what does "aptitude purge fglrx-driver" give you? You also have a number of other broken packages. You might want to run "aptitude -f install" after you've cleaned up the fglrx-driver mix. |
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| 09:11.08 | babilen | Agiofws: But I really have to go now (for some time) -- See you in a bit :) |
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| 09:12.24 | Agiofws | http://paste.debian.net/249858/ there |
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| 09:12.50 | babilen | Agiofws: And you still haven't pasted the original output (of which command?) -- I am referring to the stuff that got you kicked earlier ("Errors were encountered while processing:" …) |
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| 09:13.37 | babilen | Agiofws: Ok, make that "aptitude purge fglrx-driver fglrx-atieventsd" |
| 09:13.39 | Agiofws | accept |
| 09:13.56 | Agiofws | ok |
| 09:14.53 | Agiofws | Purging configuration files for fglrx-atieventsd ... |
| 09:14.53 | Agiofws | dpkg: warning: while removing fglrx-atieventsd, directory '/etc/ati' not empty so not removed |
| 09:14.53 | Agiofws | Processing triggers for man-db ... |
| 09:14.53 | dpkg | Agiofws: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
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| 09:15.22 | truexfan81 | smh @bot |
| 09:15.31 | Agiofws | ok now install radeon driver ? |
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| 09:16.13 | babilen | Agiofws: What do you have in /etc/ati? |
| 09:16.48 | Agiofws | http://paste.debian.net/249859/ |
| 09:16.49 | Agiofws | that |
| 09:16.54 | Agiofws | logs etc ... |
| 09:17.43 | babilen | Agiofws: And you don't have to install the radeon driver (just make sure you have xserver-xorg-video-radeon, libgl1-mesa-dri and firmware-linux-nonfree installed) -- In the light of this conversation I should probably stress again that you have to make sure that no radeon blacklist is in place and that you remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fglrx.conf file) |
| 09:18.14 | babilen | dpkg: tell Agiofws -about radeon |
| 09:18.16 | Agiofws | yes i already checked there is no xorg.conf.d there yet |
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| 09:19.37 | Agiofws | ok i removed atisvend what ever its called now for the packages to install or see if i have them and check fro the black list |
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| 09:19.54 | shaquile | Something is weird with my installation.. I just did a netinstall without desktop environment, then installed xfce, but it behaves a bit weird. For example if i write sudo dpkg -i skype.debpackage it just waits there |
| 09:20.07 | shaquile | Same if I click a deb package, before it opened some installer now nothing happens. |
| 09:20.35 | truexfan81 | shaquile: some installer? do you mean the gdebi package installer? |
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| 09:21.24 | thomaschaaf | I am connected to a remote machine via openvpn. Sadly the connection seems to reset every couple of mins.. In the syslog I can not find a reason why the connection stops working. Where else could I look? |
| 09:21.50 | shaquile | truexfan81: Yeah.. But now I can't even use apt.. It says it's busy... and that I can't join the party. |
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| 09:22.01 | shaquile | I have no idea of what it's doing.. but the system is a bit slow |
| 09:22.29 | truexfan81 | do you have any programs like synaptic running? |
| 09:22.30 | Agiofws | babilen, can i remove dkms module source for the non-free ATI/AMD RadeonHD display driver ? |
| 09:22.42 | shaquile | truexfan81: I clicked it but it didn't start |
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| 09:23.21 | truexfan81 | shaquile: you up for a reboot? imo thats the easiest fix for that kind of problem |
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| 09:23.38 | shaquile | Sounds good to me =) |
| 09:23.41 | babilen | Agiofws: Yes, and if you want your system to be in some sensible state you also want to run "aptitude -f install" to fix all your broken dependencies. |
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| 09:24.10 | shaquile | truexfan81: exec ck-launch-startxfce4 in xinitrc should start the vm automatically on boot right? |
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| 09:24.31 | truexfan81 | i've never tried that |
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| 09:25.14 | truexfan81 | sounds like you need a window manager like lightdm for example |
| 09:25.18 | Agiofws | ok i already had the mesa dri ... package |
| 09:25.40 | Agiofws | ok where do i search for blacklists in etc ? |
| 09:26.02 | shaquile | truexfan81: Yeah something weird definately happend |
| 09:26.07 | Agiofws | /etc/modprobe.d# ls |
| 09:26.07 | Agiofws | alsa-base-blacklist.conf alsa-base.conf dkms.conf fbdev-blacklist.conf i915-kms.conf radeon-kms.conf ? |
| 09:26.08 | fahi | shaquile: I'm using exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch --exit-with-session startxfce4 |
| 09:26.31 | thomaschaaf | Why could the internet connection on a device stop working for 10 seconds over minute or so? I there are no entries in /var/log/syslog? I have the e1000e installed in there which might be the cause |
| 09:26.37 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:26.37 | Agiofws | options radeon modeset=1 ? |
| 09:27.01 | Agiofws | thomaschaaf, some kind of cron job ? |
| 09:27.06 | Agiofws | lsmod |
| 09:27.31 | shaquile | fahi: What is the difference? |
| 09:27.39 | Agiofws | how do i know if the radeon driver is loaded ? |
| 09:27.56 | fahi | shaquile: without dbus, you won't be able to shut the system down using xfce' |
| 09:28.01 | Agiofws | lsmod | grep radeon |
| 09:28.02 | Agiofws | radeon 718073 0 |
| 09:28.10 | Agiofws | why don;t i have 3d acc though ? |
| 09:29.47 | shaquile | fahi: Ah thanks =) |
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| 09:30.03 | truexfan81 | i'm off to bed, cya later |
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| 09:31.38 | Agiofws | babilen, i rebooted but now i don;t have gnome3 anymore how can i fix this with radeon driver ? |
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| 09:32.49 | jelly | Agiofws: what do you have, then? |
| 09:33.19 | Agiofws | jelly, the gui has changed its something to do with the 3d accel. support or something |
| 09:33.29 | jelly | Agiofws: does X start up, do you get a graphical login screen, can you log in? |
| 09:33.33 | Agiofws | reverted to radeon driver because fglrx is causing problems and lock ups |
| 09:33.40 | Agiofws | yes off course |
| 09:33.44 | Agiofws | its just not gnome 3 |
| 09:33.53 | Agiofws | look @ www.imagebin.org/254213 |
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| 09:34.16 | jelly | Agiofws: ok. pastebin the output of "glxinfo" please. |
| 09:34.29 | Agiofws | ok |
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| 09:34.50 | Agiofws | error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 09:34.54 | jelly | is that... Comic Sans |
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| 09:35.01 | caraconan | Hi there. With a setup Client -> Router -> Firewall -> VM how can I a) validate Client source IP address b) then forward the package to VM? Details here http://paste.debian.net/249861/. Thanks |
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| 09:35.18 | jelly | Agiofws: is libgl1-mesa-dri package installed? |
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| 09:35.21 | Agiofws | yes it is |
| 09:35.30 | Agiofws | i think os let me check |
| 09:35.36 | caraconan | Hi all. Sorry I disconnected. Again the question: Hi there. With a setup Client -> Router -> Firewall -> VM how can I a) validate Client source IP address b) then forward the package to VM? Details here http://paste.debian.net/249861/. Thanks |
| 09:36.14 | jelly | Agiofws: hm. pastebin the output of dpkg -l libgl1\* | grep '^.i' |
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| 09:36.20 | Agiofws | Reading state information... Done |
| 09:36.20 | Agiofws | libgl1-mesa-dri is already the newest version. |
| 09:36.45 | shaquile | I'm trying to install skype but it complains that I have too old versions of stuff. |
| 09:37.10 | ksk | !tell shaquile about skype |
| 09:37.13 | shaquile | I have squeeze main in sources.list |
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| 09:37.28 | xgl___ | hi all ! |
| 09:37.36 | jelly | shaquile: indeed, skype 4.x won't work with squeeze |
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| 09:37.53 | Agiofws | jelly http://codepad.org/z9AgI02L |
| 09:37.59 | shaquile | jelly: Oh.. fristrating. So I need to upgrade it? |
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| 09:39.25 | Agiofws | shaquile, generally keep an up to date system so the new packages are compatible with your system not to old but not too new |
| 09:39.37 | Agiofws | jelly, any idea |
| 09:40.34 | Agiofws | jelly, or anyone could this be a problem |
| 09:40.36 | Agiofws | [ 6.504369] [drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled. |
| 09:40.36 | Agiofws | [ 6.517104] [drm:radeon_pci_probe] *ERROR* radeon kernel modesetting for R600 or later requires firmware-linux-nonfree. |
| 09:40.38 | jelly | shaquile: or use old skype 2.2 |
| 09:40.50 | jelly | Agiofws: yes, but it's not just that |
| 09:41.08 | jelly | Agiofws: fix that one first though |
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| 09:41.24 | jelly | you'll require a reboot after installing the firmware bits |
| 09:41.38 | Agiofws | install what where ? |
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| 09:42.03 | jelly | Agiofws: install the firmware-linux-nonfree package. |
| 09:43.29 | Agiofws | look @ www.imagebin.org/254214 |
| 09:43.39 | Agiofws | ok then what after that ? |
| 09:44.03 | Agiofws | reboot and then ? |
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| 09:44.07 | Agiofws | ok rebooting |
| 09:44.10 | jelly | and see what happens... |
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| 09:47.38 | RandomSort | Hi |
| 09:47.49 | RandomSort | is there a nifty way to downgrade a package to a previous version |
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| 09:48.20 | RandomSort | more specifically going from cifs-til 2:5.5-1ubuntu1 to cifs-utils 2:5.1-1ubuntu1 |
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| 09:50.10 | rww | RandomSort: This is #debian. Try #ubuntu. |
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| 09:59.43 | hellyeah | i am carious about how can i set wireless on boot i mean when debian execute some service. I want to connect there. Now it is handled by gnome-network-manager? Is it possible to do that |
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| 10:00.50 | shaquile | Hrm.. soundcard doesn't work as usual =( |
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| 10:01.49 | ekiwok | shaquile, have you installed drivers from non-free ? |
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| 10:03.04 | shaquile | ekiwok: Not sure actually, I guess not. I just installed the debian from scratch and haven't touched much since. |
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| 10:04.56 | shaquile | ekiwok: I'll add them now |
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| 10:13.37 | Agiofws | CAN anyone tell me what file does wheezy USE for its XORG.CONF FILE ? |
| 10:13.48 | Agiofws | there is no such file in /etc/X11 |
| 10:14.06 | Agiofws | agiofws@ixus:/etc/X11$ glxinfo |
| 10:14.07 | Agiofws | glxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory\ |
| 10:14.13 | Agiofws | i am trying to fix that error |
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| 10:18.03 | et | Agiofws: an xorg.conf is not neccessary by itself, it may simply not exist, and that error is not an X error, the dynamic linker just doesn't find that library |
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| 10:18.59 | Agiofws | et, i unsinstalled fglrx from amd BUT now i DONT HAVE any 3d accel etc ... how can i fix this with radeon driver |
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| 10:20.32 | et | i haven't used non-nvidia cards for ages. |
| 10:20.59 | hellyeah | nv |
| 10:21.03 | hellyeah | nvidia rocks |
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| 10:22.14 | frikinz | Anyone using kde 4.10 from the repos? Trying to find a working set of packages. It partially works but its still mixed with 4.8 |
| 10:23.09 | shaquile | ekiwok: Well now it's there.. the non free.. Where should I go from here? =) |
| 10:23.20 | shaquile | ekiwok: What kind of drivers should I install? |
| 10:23.31 | Agiofws | its not an nvidia card its a ati hd2600 card |
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| 10:24.47 | babilen | Agiofws: I guess that the ATI installer messed up your libGL1.so.1 links. (which is one of the reasons why we do not recommend to use them) -- You could try reinstalling libgl1-mesa-dri to fix this. I take it that you installed firmware-linux-nonfree now (I mentioned that before, didn't I?) |
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| 10:25.01 | babilen | dpkg: tell Agiofws -about empty xorg.conf |
| 10:25.22 | Agiofws | yes i did install non free package |
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| 10:25.41 | babilen | did you reboot after that? |
| 10:25.51 | Agiofws | babilen, all seems ok i have no 3d accele. etc how can i fix this |
| 10:25.55 | Agiofws | yes i did |
| 10:26.17 | Agiofws | after re installing no i did not reboot |
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| 10:26.34 | babilen | Agiofws: Well, try running "aptitude reinstall libgl1-mesa-dri" and see if that fixes your broken libgl1.so.1 links. The ATI/NVIDIA installer *break* this. What you are experiencing now is /exactly/ why we don't recommend to use them. |
| 10:26.41 | babilen | Agiofws: You /have/ to reboot. |
| 10:26.44 | Agiofws | ok |
| 10:26.45 | babilen | dpkg: radeon |
| 10:26.46 | dpkg | Radeon is a brand of graphic processing units by AMD/ATI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon). The radeon open source display driver is packaged for Debian as xserver-xorg-video-radeon, optionally install libgl1-mesa-dri for 3D acceleration. Also ask me about <radeon firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo http://x.org/wiki/radeon #radeon on irc.freenode.net. For the proprietary driver, see <fglrx>. |
| 10:27.07 | babilen | Agiofws: Didn't jelly cover that already? |
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| 10:27.17 | hellyeah | dpkg nvidia |
| 10:27.17 | dpkg | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . Ask me about <nouveau> (open source driver) or <nvidia dkms> (proprietary driver). For GPUs made before 2004, ask me about <nvidia legacy>. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
| 10:27.28 | babilen | hellyeah: How is that related? |
| 10:27.44 | hellyeah | i just wonder that dpkg will tell about nvidia |
| 10:28.16 | hellyeah | btw someone said this nvidia wiki need to be rewritten |
| 10:28.26 | babilen | yes, I did and we will replace it soon |
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| 10:28.34 | Agiofws | ok reboot |
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| 10:30.50 | ekiwok | shaquile, what is your audio card? lspci | grep -i audio |
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| 10:31.27 | shaquile | ekiwok: It's a ATI Tech Inc HD48x0 |
| 10:31.33 | shaquile | Capabilities: Access Denied |
| 10:31.33 | Agiofws | babilen, glxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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| 10:31.45 | shaquile | ekiwok: When I run aplay -l I get three cards |
| 10:31.55 | shaquile | Analog, Digital and HDMI |
| 10:32.13 | Agiofws | babilen, maybe some xserver is blocking it or something ? |
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| 10:33.58 | Agiofws | look @ www.imagebin.org/254218 |
| 10:34.02 | babilen | Agiofws: did you reinstall libgl1-mesa-dri as I asked you earlier |
| 10:34.06 | Agiofws | yes |
| 10:34.10 | Agiofws | and rebooted |
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| 10:34.53 | Agiofws | agiofws@ixus:~$ lsmod | grep -i radeon |
| 10:34.53 | Agiofws | radeon 718073 2 |
| 10:35.21 | frikinz | libgl1-mesa-glx ? |
| 10:35.25 | babilen | Agiofws: Ok, show me the output of "dpkg -l "*fglrx*"" please. |
| 10:35.32 | babilen | frikinz: yes, in a second :) |
| 10:35.57 | frikinz | ok, you know better than me :) |
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| 10:36.28 | Agiofws | http://codepad.org/NdZzWkDk |
| 10:36.29 | Agiofws | there |
| 10:36.33 | babilen | frikinz: No, it is exactly right ... I'd just like to see the output of that command first :-D |
| 10:36.59 | babilen | Agiofws: Ok, you still have /a lot/ of fglrx stuff installed. |
| 10:37.23 | babilen | Agiofws: Could you re-run that command with "COLUMNS dpkg -l "*fglrx*"" and show me that again? |
| 10:37.27 | babilen | err |
| 10:37.40 | babilen | "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l "*fglrx*"" that is |
| 10:37.41 | Agiofws | look @ www.imagebin.org/254219 |
| 10:37.51 | Agiofws | yes off course i could |
| 10:38.01 | shaquile | ekiwok: Actually if i run a wav file in the editor it says it plays it.. Maybe it's just the wrong output |
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| 10:38.39 | Agiofws | http://codepad.org/RHAzedf6 there |
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| 10:38.54 | shaquile | Awesome.. it's forking |
| 10:38.59 | shaquile | working ^^ |
| 10:39.35 | ekiwok | shaquile, unfortunatly I dont know why you have that issue, are you on squeeze or wheezy ? |
| 10:39.59 | ekiwok | ok nvm |
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| 10:40.56 | babilen | Agiofws: Ok, please run "aptitude purge fglrx-glx-ia32 fglrx-modules-dkms glx-alternative-fglrx libfglrx:amd64" and then "aptitude purge ~c" followed by "aptitude reinstall libgl1-mesa-{dri,glx}" and show me the output of all of these. Please don't continue if you any of these commands runs into problems. |
| 10:41.06 | Agiofws | http://codepad.org/tY1mSrIG |
| 10:41.29 | Agiofws | ok |
| 10:41.54 | babilen | Agiofws: What did you do between your last and this paste? |
| 10:41.57 | babilen | *sigh* |
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| 10:42.17 | Agiofws | sorry i uninstalled some fglrx packages via synaptic sorry |
| 10:42.29 | babilen | … |
| 10:42.51 | babilen | Ok, lets just pretend this didn't happen .. Please continue with the rest of the commands. |
| 10:43.00 | Agiofws | ok :) |
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| 10:43.34 | Agiofws | first command says |
| 10:43.35 | Agiofws | No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. |
| 10:43.41 | babilen | And don't just do stuff you think you have to do ... it is hard enough already to maintain a correct picture of your configuration in mind |
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| 10:44.05 | Agiofws | aptitude purge ~c ? |
| 10:44.10 | Agiofws | what does that do ? |
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| 10:44.37 | babilen | Agiofws: It purges all formerly removed, but not purged packages |
| 10:44.52 | Agiofws | , 353 to remove and 16 not upgraded. |
| 10:45.28 | babilen | If that purges more packages than you are comfortable with then show me the output. These are all the packages that you removed at one point that still have configuration files on the system. I would remove them, but you might want to show me. |
| 10:45.44 | Agiofws | too late |
| 10:45.46 | Agiofws | :P |
| 10:45.57 | babilen | You also have packages you should upgrade, so throwing in an "aptitude full-upgrade" (or "apt-get dist-upgrade") at the end might not be a bad idea too. |
| 10:46.03 | babilen | Agiofws: Too late for what? |
| 10:46.25 | Agiofws | already ran the purge command ~c |
| 10:46.45 | Agiofws | i hope it doesn't break my sysytem |
| 10:46.47 | babilen | ack, okay .. rein the reinstall and then the dist-upgrade and then reboot. Lets see if that cleaned something up |
| 10:47.20 | babilen | Agiofws: It simply removes configuration files of those packages that you removed earlier (none of them are installed right now) |
| 10:47.43 | Agiofws | ah yes i see now its conf file |
| 10:47.51 | Agiofws | files* |
| 10:49.12 | Agiofws | it stopped mysqld |
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| 10:50.06 | Agiofws | ok now it stopped |
| 10:50.30 | Agiofws | The following packages will be REINSTALLED: |
| 10:50.30 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:51.00 | Agiofws | ok now apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 10:51.16 | babilen | Agiofws: We really don't need a running commentary :) |
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| 10:52.35 | Agiofws | ok after tha dist upgrade a reboot ? |
| 10:52.53 | babilen | hmm |
| 10:53.23 | Agiofws | http://codepad.org/o9N8oJR0 |
| 10:53.24 | Agiofws | ? |
| 10:53.43 | Agiofws | should i reboot babilen ?\ |
| 10:54.16 | Agiofws | ok rebooting |
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| 10:57.38 | Agiofws | ok babilen |
| 10:57.41 | Agiofws | glxinfo |
| 10:57.41 | Agiofws | name of display: :0.0 |
| 10:57.41 | Agiofws | Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig |
| 10:57.55 | Agiofws | its better but still an error ? |
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| 10:58.49 | babilen | Agiofws: Looks better -- Do you have Gnome3 now? |
| 10:58.56 | Agiofws | no |
| 10:59.14 | babilen | Agiofws: Ok, take a look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to figure out what the problem is. |
| 10:59.21 | babilen | will take a break |
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| 11:00.36 | Agiofws | what should i grep for in the file ? |
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| 11:01.31 | Agiofws | babilen, http://codepad.org/5blE11X4 |
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| 11:02.14 | Agiofws | (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so: undefined symbol: miEmptyData |
| 11:02.17 | babilen | Agiofws: Your libglx install is still b0rked |
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| 11:02.54 | Agiofws | well the package manager doesn't state it and i don;t recall borking anything ther e |
| 11:03.00 | Agiofws | (EE) Failed to load module "glx" (loader failed, 7) |
| 11:03.11 | Agiofws | should i re install ? |
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| 11:03.37 | babilen | Agiofws: It is most likely the ATI installer that broke it by messing up the links used in the libglx alternative system. |
| 11:05.07 | babilen | Agiofws: Mind sharing the output of "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l "*glx*"" with me? |
| 11:05.40 | Agiofws | no problem |
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| 11:06.09 | Agiofws | http://codepad.org/Kn2vvp26 |
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| 11:06.46 | babilen | Agiofws: Ok, what does "update-alternatives --list glx" give you? |
| 11:06.48 | Agiofws | am i missing a package ? |
| 11:07.28 | babilen | Agiofws: No, the glx links are fucked (the ATI installer simply overwrites them, while Debian uses links to be able to switch between different implementations/providers) |
| 11:08.09 | Agiofws | reinstalling won't fix them ? |
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| 11:09.40 | Agiofws | should return to amd's installer and try to uninstall from the script maybe it will fix the links ? |
| 11:10.00 | babilen | no, it does not know anything about the links |
| 11:10.18 | Agiofws | so what do i do formt c: :P |
| 11:10.38 | babilen | answer my question? |
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| 11:11.55 | Agiofws | which one can seem to find a question scrolling upwards ? |
| 11:13.12 | Agiofws | i can't believe i am at a dead end here |
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| 11:13.52 | Agiofws | any other suggestions ? |
| 11:14.28 | babilen | "update-alternatives --list glx" |
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| 11:15.20 | Agiofws | you want the ouput ? |
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| 11:15.36 | Agiofws | update-alternatives --list glx |
| 11:15.36 | Agiofws | /usr/lib/mesa-diverted |
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| 11:17.07 | babilen | Agiofws: Ok, what about "ls -l /usr/lib/mesa-diverted" ? |
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| 11:18.24 | Agiofws | http://codepad.org/BmUs8bQh |
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| 11:20.51 | babilen | Agiofws: Please investigate those links -- One approach might be to actually remove all the glx-alternative-* and glx-diversion packages/framework ... The problem is that somewhere one of these libGL1 links is wrong and points to something that either doesn't exist or is still leftover after your fglrx installation |
| 11:21.04 | babilen | seriously, nfc and I have to work on something else right now |
| 11:21.27 | Agiofws | me too i just stubborn and want to fix this |
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| 11:21.35 | Agiofws | apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core ? |
| 11:22.00 | chm0d-780 | hi people |
| 11:22.04 | chm0d-780 | please |
| 11:22.09 | chm0d-780 | help me |
| 11:22.12 | chm0d-780 | my network card does not work someone help me |
| 11:22.36 | Agiofws | investigate ? |
| 11:22.48 | jpw | chm0d-780: what card? what version of debian? |
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| 11:23.38 | jpw | chm0d-780: also please provide the output of `lspci` and `dmesg` |
| 11:23.49 | chm0d-780 | Debian 7 wheezy |
| 11:23.52 | chm0d-780 | wait please |
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| 11:25.15 | chm0d-780 | jpw where lap? |
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| 11:26.02 | jpw | chm0d-780: where lap? |
| 11:26.23 | chm0d-780 | sorry |
| 11:26.27 | chm0d-780 | paste |
| 11:26.34 | jpw | !paste |
| 11:26.35 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 11:26.52 | chm0d-780 | http://pastebin.com/fhEVZtVX |
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| 11:27.19 | chm0d-780 | jpw http://pastebin.com/fhEVZtVX |
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| 11:27.33 | chm0d-780 | help me please |
| 11:27.43 | jpw | okok chill |
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| 11:28.21 | jpw | can i have the output of `lspci` too please. |
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| 11:29.13 | Agiofws | babilen, still no glx i think |
| 11:29.14 | chm0d-780 | ok |
| 11:30.25 | jpw | chm0d-780: I see firmware firmware-realtek is loaded, the kernel tries to up the link but reports the link is not ready. Have you checked your cable? |
| 11:30.41 | chm0d-780 | http://pastebin.com/sQ0fJMWh |
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| 11:32.09 | chm0d-780 | i checked |
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| 11:32.27 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:32.30 | chm0d-780 | is a nootebook |
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| 11:33.16 | jpw | chm0d-780: ok so there are no activity lights. Can you provide me with the output of `ip link` instead please. |
| 11:33.19 | jelly | Agiofws: does "glxinfo" work now after reinstalling those packages? |
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| 11:34.52 | Agiofws | name of display: :0.0 |
| 11:34.52 | Agiofws | Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig |
| 11:34.59 | Agiofws | (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so: undefined symbol: miEmptyData |
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| 11:35.26 | chm0d-780 | jpw http://pastebin.com/50NpQAJK |
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| 11:37.16 | zmode | hi. i got a similar problem to this (http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/re-dpkg-error-processing-linux-image-2-6-26-2-686-configure-help-199130711.html) while upgrading linux-image2.6.32-5-686. i believe i have it sorted now as suggested in the link, but my question is, what's the point of symlinks in / and what do i miss by disabling them? |
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| 11:37.51 | nevyn | d |
| 11:38.22 | jpw | chm0d-780: I am positive you have a broken cable somewhere. please replace the cables between your notebook and the switch. |
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| 11:40.19 | chm0d-780 | jpw |
| 11:40.20 | jpw | the no_carrier in your `ip l` response suggests either the cable is broken, the port on your switch is broken or the physical network port is broken. |
| 11:40.24 | chm0d-780 | is a wifi |
| 11:40.35 | chm0d-780 | sorry |
| 11:41.06 | chm0d-780 | is the wifi card |
| 11:41.11 | jpw | i see |
| 11:41.43 | chm0d-780 | but the card |
| 11:41.47 | chm0d-780 | is internal |
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| 11:42.42 | jpw | chm0d-780: what does `iwlist usb0 scan` output? |
| 11:43.08 | jpw | (I presume usb0 *is* your wireless interface) |
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| 11:43.54 | Towzzer | wait a min |
| 11:44.03 | Towzzer | there's no 780 for file permissions |
| 11:44.20 | frikinz | zmode: you could have also erased the link (dangling link pointing to nowhere?) and rerun dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.32-5-686. anyway I don't think these links are usefull to anything in debian |
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| 11:46.15 | zmode | frikinz: that's what i did. reinstalled the package after doing everything suggested (probably pointless) and it installed with no errors this time. alright about the rest, thanks. |
| 11:46.57 | jelly | Agiofws: and is /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so owned by a fglrx or a mesa package now? If it's a link, look at where it points to (use readlink -f) |
| 11:47.14 | deuterium | hia. mysqldump can't backup the events in 'performance_schema' since mysql 5.5 .. is this debian-specific? see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=673572 |
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| 11:48.20 | deuterium | we don't use backupninja but mysqldump, and the same problem appears |
| 11:48.35 | chm0d-780 | jpw |
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| 11:49.23 | babilen | Agiofws: Ok, could you paste your /entire/ /var/log/Xorg.0.log please ? |
| 11:49.26 | TheGrey | o/ I'm running Wheezy. I want to have a boot log. I've installed the bootlogd package. I've rebooted. But no boot log file in /var/. There isn't even a /var/log/boot folder. What should I do. please thanks :) |
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| 11:49.55 | babilen | TheGrey: I thought that should be enough :-/ |
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| 11:50.17 | babilen | TheGrey: Anything interesting in /usr/share/doc/bootlogd ? |
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| 11:50.57 | jpw | TheGrey: the log file name changes in wheezy suggests /msg dpkg bootlogd |
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| 11:51.08 | TheGrey | babilen: only a copyright and changelog |
| 11:51.16 | babilen | hm |
| 11:51.20 | chm0d-780 | jpw, No solution? |
| 11:51.48 | jpw | chm0d-780: im waiting for you to give me the output of `iwlist usb0 scan` |
| 11:52.18 | babilen | TheGrey: And /var/log/boot* file() do(es) not exist or is/are empty? |
| 11:52.37 | TheGrey | bablien: both. it doesn't exist |
| 11:52.50 | TheGrey | * It doesn't exist period |
| 11:52.53 | chm0d-780 | command not found |
| 11:53.12 | babilen | TheGrey: Okay, try "bab<TAB>" for nickname tab-completion in here. |
| 11:53.34 | chm0d-780 | usb0 Interface doesn't support scanning. |
| 11:53.37 | babilen | TheGrey: AFAIK they should -- are you sure that bootlogd is running during the boot? |
| 11:53.38 | jpw | chm0d-780: progress :) install the wireless-tools package and wpasupplicant if you know you are using wpa encapsulation/ |
| 11:53.57 | babilen | argh, have to leave .. sorry |
| 11:54.06 | TheGrey | babilen, thanks..will I need to autostart the script in my autostart.sh? |
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| 11:55.07 | jpw | chm0d-780: ah, ok, in that case I am sorry to say you are going to need to use ndiswrapper as your netowrk card is RNDIS trash youll likely need to use the windows driver. |
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| 11:55.39 | chm0d-780 | how do it? :/ |
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| 11:56.36 | chm0d-780 | jpw, how do it? |
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| 11:57.31 | chm0d-780 | I'm willing to go back to windows |
| 11:57.32 | jpw | chm0d-780: first install ndiswrapper-common. youll then need the driver disk that came with your laptop. on there <somewhere> will be the inf files ndiswrapper needs to install the driver. the whole process is horrible and unpredictable from this point you are better off using google for help. |
| 11:58.02 | chm0d-780 | :( |
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| 11:59.20 | TheGrey | any other suggestions for the bootlogd issue? |
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| 11:59.29 | chm0d-780 | jpw, can you give me a good link? |
| 11:59.36 | chm0d-780 | :) |
| 11:59.36 | jpw | chm0d-780: just a sec. |
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| 12:00.18 | Agiofws | babilen, ok |
| 12:00.44 | somethinginteres | for some reason, selecting an empty partition and making it 50MB and setting mount point as /boot. Deb installer tells me the rest of the space is "unusable". Why? |
| 12:01.06 | jpw | chm0d-780: bit.ly/92Yb8X |
| 12:01.07 | somethinginteres | by empty partition I mean "free space" |
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| 12:01.58 | babilen | TheGrey: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?dist=unstable;package=bootlogd |
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| 12:02.42 | TheGrey | babilen, thanlks |
| 12:02.51 | babilen | not much help there though |
| 12:02.52 | Agiofws | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/249889/ |
| 12:02.53 | chm0d-780 | Thank you, you were amazing jpw |
| 12:03.14 | halt | Hi all, i have an lvm issue on my debian, i downsized the home, but forget to run fsck before it, now I'm getting "Device sda5_crypt is busy" and "Device sda5_crypt already exists" messages, any idea how can i save the system ? |
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| 12:03.49 | babilen | judd: file /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so --release wheezy |
| 12:03.54 | judd | Search for /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so in wheezy/i386: xserver-xorg-core: usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so |
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| 12:04.10 | Agiofws | judd, ? |
| 12:05.31 | chm0d-780 | jpw, I can go back when I need? |
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| 12:09.32 | Agiofws | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/249889/ |
| 12:09.43 | babilen | Agiofws: What does "md5sum /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so" give you? |
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| 12:10.09 | babilen | Agiofws: Along with "ls -l /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so" -- It might be that the ATI installer overwrote that file. |
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| 12:10.19 | Agiofws | 76e9a7f51bd7cac536796a23df37502d /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so |
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| 12:10.47 | Agiofws | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 417584 Oct 29 2011 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so |
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| 12:12.16 | babilen | Agiofws: yeah, that is wrong. Could you install debsums and run "debsums -s" and paste the output? |
| 12:12.32 | Agiofws | yes |
| 12:12.42 | babilen | Agiofws: Also, what does "dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core |tail -n1" give you? |
| 12:13.45 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:14.14 | Agiofws | just debsums -s ? |
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| 12:14.49 | Agiofws | does not do anything in the console babilen |
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| 12:15.16 | Agiofws | ok wait |
| 12:15.36 | babilen | Agiofws: Ok, please run "aptitude reinstall /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so" and then show me the output of "md5sum /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so" again please. |
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| 12:15.44 | babilen | Agiofws: Wait whatfor? |
| 12:15.59 | Agiofws | its produced 3 files but not exited yet |
| 12:16.12 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:16.19 | babilen | Agiofws: yes, it takes a while. Please let it finish and /then/ paste the output. |
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| 12:19.15 | Agiofws | its still has not exited |
| 12:19.46 | superlinux-hp | hi. when will wheezy be moved to stable? |
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| 12:21.31 | ectospasm | when it's ready |
| 12:21.36 | babilen | dpkg: tell superlinux-hp -about wwwr |
| 12:21.36 | ectospasm | superlinux-hp: ^ |
| 12:22.13 | superlinux-hp | eccentric, when is that expected? |
| 12:22.30 | superlinux-hp | and do you advise me to move now? |
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| 12:22.49 | Agiofws | 76e9a7f51bd7cac536796a23df37502d |
| 12:23.16 | babilen | Agiofws: What is that? |
| 12:23.20 | Agiofws | You can only specify a package archive with an 'install' command. |
| 12:23.32 | babilen | Agiofws: what? |
| 12:23.42 | babilen | Ah, yeah |
| 12:23.57 | babilen | Agiofws: That command is a bit borked, yes. So, did debsums finish by now? |
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| 12:24.35 | babilen | Agiofws: Did "debsums -s" finish? |
| 12:24.42 | Agiofws | no |
| 12:25.08 | babilen | Agiofws: Then /wait/ for it to finish, paste its output and /then/ let me take a look. |
| 12:25.31 | Agiofws | http://codepad.org/RgKyWoj5 |
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| 12:26.10 | babilen | Agiofws: Is that the entire output? |
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| 12:26.35 | babilen | Agiofws: So, just to clarify: It /did/ finish now, didn't it? |
| 12:27.01 | Agiofws | ok just finished |
| 12:27.04 | Agiofws | wait let me paste |
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| 12:27.27 | Agiofws | http://codepad.org/tNCypOOc |
| 12:27.29 | Agiofws | there |
| 12:27.34 | Agiofws | seems you were right |
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| 12:28.03 | Agiofws | aptitude install /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so ? |
| 12:28.07 | babilen | NO |
| 12:28.11 | Agiofws | ok |
| 12:28.50 | babilen | Agiofws: Be patient! You are constantly doing things that nobody asked you to do. You pasted some output that wasn't complete (why?) and so on. Just be patient! |
| 12:29.01 | Agiofws | ok |
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| 12:29.37 | babilen | Agiofws: So, I was right. The ATI installer must have overwritten that file. Please run "aptitude reinstall xserver-xorg-core" and then "md5sum /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so" and show me the output of /both/. |
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| 12:30.54 | Agiofws | debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Dialog |
| 12:30.54 | Agiofws | debconf: (Dialog frontend requires a screen at least 13 lines tall and 31 columns wide.) |
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| 12:31.29 | Agiofws | how do i re inistialize the front end dialog or dont i need it ? |
| 12:31.50 | Agiofws | Processing triggers for man-db ... |
| 12:31.51 | Agiofws | Setting up xserver-xorg-core (2:1.12.4-5) ... |
| 12:31.57 | Agiofws | md5sum /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so |
| 12:31.57 | Agiofws | 4da27ea0bf0eddd6b62a8c3350be6fb3 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so |
| 12:34.01 | Agiofws | should i reboot babilen ? |
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| 12:38.36 | boudiccas | if i'm root how can i read a users bash history to find out what they've doen please? |
| 12:38.50 | boudiccas | done |
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| 12:39.56 | frikinz | less ~user/.bash_history ? |
| 12:39.59 | Agiofws | ok babilen babilen thank you thank you thank you its fixed ... reinstalling the xorg core package fixed it |
| 12:40.08 | Agiofws | thank you for you time and patience |
| 12:40.29 | boudiccas | ah thanks, frikinz , i'll file that away foir future reference |
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| 12:42.40 | babilen | Agiofws: yay, so remember: don't install random crap from some websites, okay? |
| 12:43.46 | jpw | installs flash |
| 12:44.03 | Cultist | why does the Synaptic GUI on wheezy have an option to check for new Ubuntu versions? |
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| 12:44.26 | Agiofws | ok babilen its just what i always usedto get 3d accel... etc |
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| 12:45.23 | CruX| | offtopic but: can any1 here recommend a good cad program for linux ? with similar usage like intergraph imagineer |
| 12:45.25 | ChrisH | Cultist: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=691681 |
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| 13:08.43 | ddssc | need to install this https://github.com/coffin/coffin/ on debian squeeze. halp plz |
| 13:09.15 | abrotman | halp? |
| 13:09.40 | ddssc | halp plox |
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| 13:10.26 | b0lt | !l33t |
| 13:10.27 | dpkg | Plz uze #debian-l33t 4 hlp in l33t !! U wud get m0re helpz their !!! lol L33t speakers, please use #debian-l33t for help in the l33t dialect. You will get much more help there. |
| 13:10.53 | nkuttler | ddssc: try #django or #python, and English |
| 13:10.54 | Towzzer | ddssc, clone the git repo, then run "python setup.py" |
| 13:11.14 | ddssc | Towzzer, arite |
| 13:11.18 | Towzzer | word up |
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| 13:19.31 | SeySayux | How do I forcefully install a package through apt-get? |
| 13:19.38 | PapaSierra | morning. i want to useradd a user. this user will not have a home directory. linux will not allow the user to log in with a password. but the user should be able to log in with a public key over ssh. how is this achieved? |
| 13:20.09 | jpw | PapaSierra: use adduser. it's a wrapper for useradd that makes it work in a sensible way. |
| 13:20.42 | PapaSierra | jpw: right, adduser seems to be a nice convenience, but still, how do i make my user not have a password or home dir? |
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| 13:21.01 | jpw | sorry misunderstoof |
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| 13:21.02 | jpw | sorry misunderstood |
| 13:21.11 | Towzzer | papa, there is an option to disable password the user can still login with a key |
| 13:21.18 | PapaSierra | well... it's fine if he has a home dir (maybe it's required for the .ssh dir?) |
| 13:21.38 | PapaSierra | Towzzer: searching for it... |
| 13:21.46 | Towzzer | right, sorry, the default is to disable the password |
| 13:21.48 | Towzzer | when you use "useradd" |
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| 13:22.14 | PapaSierra | Towzzer: ok, so you're suggesting useradd over adduser for this, right? |
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| 13:22.43 | jpw | PapaSierra: the useradd command will not create a password / home directory unless you tell it too. |
| 13:22.58 | PapaSierra | oh right |
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| 13:23.19 | jpw | but regardless if you want to use key based auth the user still needs a home directory. |
| 13:23.26 | PapaSierra | but then how does logging in with a key work? doesn't the user *have* to have a home dir in order to have a .ssh dir? |
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| 13:23.30 | PapaSierra | yeah |
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| 13:24.23 | jpw | you can set up sshd so that the authorized_keys file is shared but then you'll be in a siuation of any user being able to access any account. |
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| 13:24.55 | PapaSierra | eek. no. better to have home dirs but no password. looking into that now. thanks |
| 13:24.57 | nkuttler | SeySayux: why, which error do you get? |
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| 13:25.59 | PapaSierra | jpw: looks like this "useradd -d /home/james jim" |
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| 13:26.34 | SeySayux | (First of all, I'm on Ubuntu, but they've got way fluffier problems to handle right now) I'm trying to install Qt5, but that needs something called 'qtchooser'. Apparently that tries to install a qdbus binary, which is also owned by the qdbus package. Can't get rid of qdbus, because that removes kdeworkspace-bin with it, which I kind of need for my system to work. |
| 13:26.38 | jpw | PapaSierra: you need -m switch to actually create the directory specifird by -d |
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| 13:26.53 | jpw | else you have to create it manually. |
| 13:26.55 | PapaSierra | oh, make home or something? |
| 13:26.59 | jpw | yeah |
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| 13:27.04 | PapaSierra | :) |
| 13:27.27 | jsmith_ | hello |
| 13:27.33 | nkuttler | !tell SeySayux about ubuntu |
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| 13:29.42 | SeySayux | I don't think the people in #ubuntu have heard of apt-get, but "thanks" I guess. |
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| 13:30.12 | ChrisH | SeySayux: then you need to move to Debian :) |
| 13:30.49 | SeySayux | ChrisH: Thanks, but my current issue is with installing Qt 5, not Qt 3. ;) |
| 13:31.12 | jpw | ooohhhhhh zing |
| 13:31.29 | jelly | SeySayux: apt-get is their primary cli installation tool, yknow |
| 13:31.34 | jelly | ,v qtchooser |
| 13:31.35 | judd | Package: qtchooser on i386 -- experimental: 26-2 |
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| 13:31.45 | jelly | and look! Debian has that thing. Imagine |
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| 13:34.34 | ok4 | SaySayux: you need to build Qt 5 from source. |
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| 13:35.25 | ok4 | You can also download Qt5 from the Qt open source website for Linux |
| 13:35.48 | ok4 | Forget, apt-get or synaptic. |
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| 13:37.12 | ok4 | The repos are plagued by legal problems and packaging problems. In linux, it seems you need to be able to build packages yourself to have axs to new tech/software. |
| 13:37.44 | ok4 | Of course, for Linux core stuff the repos are great... most of the time. |
| 13:38.41 | SeySayux | So far, I've only met one package manager that *works*. |
| 13:38.47 | SeySayux | And it wasn't even on Linux. |
| 13:39.06 | Andymeows | Hello, what is the recommended way to keep an up-to-date version of sun-java-jdk in wheezy? I found that someone said using the squeeze repo for non-free would work, but I'm kind of hesistant about that. |
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| 13:40.47 | jpw | dpkg: tell Andymeows about install java |
| 13:41.02 | Userr | do you support rebelin? |
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| 13:41.42 | jpw | Andymeows: that message basically sums it up. Now if you want to use java on debian you need to manage it yourself. |
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| 13:42.59 | jelly | Andymeows: there is none so far, you have to download and repackage Oracle's tarballs when they come out |
| 13:43.14 | ok4 | jpw: Why is that? |
| 13:43.16 | SeySayux | Essentially, if you want to install a piece of software on Debian, download the source/proprietary installer and install it yourself. That "package manager" thingy is just a convenient way to remove libc6, should you ever want that. |
| 13:43.29 | jpw | ok4: Licensing restrictions set by Oracle. |
| 13:43.41 | ok4 | I see. |
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| 13:43.53 | babilen | SeySayux: Please, play somewhere else. Thank you. |
| 13:44.21 | ok4 | jpw: Isn't Java GPL also in addition to commercial license? |
| 13:44.22 | Andymeows | jpw: would it be possible to setup a local repository to serve the oracle updates? |
| 13:44.32 | SeySayux | babilen: Hi, I'm trying to install Qt 5, CMake 2.8.8 and GCC 4.7.2. |
| 13:45.00 | Userr | oracle/linux |
| 13:45.01 | jpw | Andymeows: IANAL: any repositoty you set up will be bound by the same license terms that are restricting debian |
| 13:45.03 | babilen | SeySayux: Ask in #ubuntu |
| 13:45.28 | jelly | SeySayux: Ubuntu questions should go to #ubuntu, or at least ##linux |
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| 13:45.34 | Userr | question! |
| 13:45.36 | SeySayux | babilen: I need to install it on Debian later on as well, so I'd better get that done now that I'm here. |
| 13:45.37 | jpw | ok4: IANAL: Open-jdk != java it misses a lot of classes. |
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| 13:46.02 | Userr | should i use ZFS and LVM? |
| 13:46.16 | Andymeows | jpw: I would be setting it up within a local network for the servers I manage only |
| 13:46.25 | ok4 | SaySayoux: I just did that on wheezy. Install build-essentials package from repo. Download Qt5 SDK for linux from Qt open source website or build Qt5 from git repo. Only way I was able to do it. I built it from git... more work...but this way i don't depend on SDK packagers |
| 13:46.40 | ok4 | jpw: thanks. |
| 13:46.47 | babilen | SeySayux: Feel free to come back once you run Debian are actually interesting in solving problems. We do not support Ubuntu and I have no interest in listening to your comments about package managers. |
| 13:47.22 | jpw | Andymeows: again ianal, that *should* be ok. get your lawyers too o look at the license terms first. |
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| 13:47.57 | Andymeows | jpw: thanks for your help |
| 13:48.04 | jpw | Andymeows: you're welcome. |
| 13:48.55 | ok4 | SeySayoux: You can get Qt working in Debian TESTING distro just fine. It is the distro the Qt programmers use and make instructions for. |
| 13:49.17 | ok4 | SaySayoux: You should use Debain if you are a Qt programmer. |
| 13:49.19 | Andymeows | How long will debian 6 be supported? |
| 13:49.48 | babilen | Andymeows: Up to one year after the release of wheezy or until the release of jessie (whichever comes first) |
| 13:49.50 | jelly | Andymeows: 12 months after debian 7 is released |
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| 13:50.07 | Andymeows | thanks :-) |
| 13:50.18 | jelly | babilen: ugh, debian+1 cuts debian-1 off? |
| 13:50.46 | jelly | thank $DEITY Debian is unable to spit out releases that fast, then |
| 13:51.15 | ok4 | I think you should always use Debain Testing...unless you are a mission critical install (ie. bank) |
| 13:52.14 | babilen | jelly: yes (but then, iff that ever happened I am sure that some discussion would arise about the actual way in which this is done) |
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| 13:55.09 | kaste | I thought the idea was that the wheezy will actually be a lot longer lasting than squeeze now |
| 13:55.24 | internetpanda | hey guys, I am installing Debian on esxi, which arch should I use? i386? |
| 13:55.40 | ksk | !tell internetpanda about esxi |
| 13:55.48 | ksk | aww |
| 13:56.04 | ok4 | When you enable multiarch in Debian Wheezy 64bit... why is there a ia32-libs package and a ia32-libs:i386 package? What is the difference and doesn't multiarch completely make ia32-libs obsolete? |
| 13:56.10 | ksk | why the ... esxi? there are (almost) no reasons to use it |
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| 13:56.41 | Andymeows | !tell Andymeows about esxi |
| 13:57.04 | internetpanda | why wouldn't I want to use esxi to virtualize a server? |
| 13:57.10 | internetpanda | that's the real question |
| 13:58.02 | Andymeows | internetpanda: I believe it depends on the hardware. On my particular server, I had to enable Intel Virtualization Technology in the BIOS to support 64-bit guests |
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| 13:58.57 | internetpanda | okay, so if the procs are intels |
| 13:59.13 | internetpanda | then use i386 eventhough there's a layer of virtualization inbetween |
| 13:59.40 | Andymeows | well are they 64-bit? |
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| 14:01.09 | Userr | should a use lvm on top of zfs? |
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| 14:02.17 | ChrisH | Userr: LVM or ZFS |
| 14:02.40 | jelly | internetpanda: we have debian 5 and 6 amd64 and i386, and debian 7 amd64 working in vSphere 4 (ESX4, basically) |
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| 14:03.08 | Userr | sorry? |
| 14:03.15 | internetpanda | k |
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| 14:03.34 | internetpanda | so if we have xeons |
| 14:03.38 | internetpanda | amd64 right? |
| 14:03.41 | ChrisH | Userr: You asked about LVM on top of ZFS... The answer is: use LVM or ZFS |
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| 14:04.09 | Userr | so lvm is just for use with ext4? |
| 14:04.26 | Userr | i mean usually |
| 14:04.27 | jelly | internetpanda: for server usage, amd64 is probably the more common choice. I'd use i386 only if I had a very good reason to (eg. optimizing certain apps for lower memory usage) |
| 14:04.29 | ChrisH | Userr: or any other Filesystem or even rawfiles. |
| 14:04.50 | Userr | ZFS is a file system right? |
| 14:05.05 | ChrisH | Userr: but ZFS has its own volume manager and filsystem |
| 14:05.25 | Userr | thats what i was wondering about |
| 14:05.30 | jelly | and a raid solution |
| 14:05.52 | jelly | ... and a ssd cache solution |
| 14:05.59 | jelly | kitchen sink? |
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| 14:06.19 | Userr | so ZFS is the most advanced FS for linux? |
| 14:06.20 | ChrisH | jelly: I was just formulating the SSD sentence. :) |
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| 14:06.56 | jelly | Userr: it's not just a fs, and Linux is not its primary platform |
| 14:07.01 | ChrisH | Userr: I would agree for Solaris. But I am still unsure about the integration into Linux |
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| 14:16.30 | mmendes | if you were hacked on linode shake your hands! lol |
| 14:17.00 | Zharf | huh? |
| 14:17.43 | mmendes | jk :) |
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| 14:19.18 | eth0ghost | The attacker claimed cc numbers, hashes, source code, and released it as well I believe. |
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| 14:20.01 | mmendes | eth0ghost: well, he says would be released may 1st |
| 14:20.09 | Andymeows | cvv codes? |
| 14:20.14 | eth0ghost | Oh, I do not follow closely, just heard. |
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| 14:20.28 | mmendes | disapointing with linode, got my debian boxes there =( |
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| 14:20.51 | babilen | This is also very off-topic in #debian. Please take it elsewhere. |
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| 14:23.17 | mmendes | babilen: yep, sorry, gonna take my frustration elsewhere :) |
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| 14:28.09 | p0wn3d | Userr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS |
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| 14:29.51 | Agiofws | hi |
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| 14:31.42 | babilen | .oO( RUN! _ |
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| 14:33.11 | Akuw | anybody here know what is the irc channel to gammu? |
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| 14:34.32 | Agiofws | babilen, so now you think my laptop will not freeze due to its vga driver anymore ? is radeon stable and more compatible ? |
| 14:34.39 | mtn | Akuw: try out that cool google thing |
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| 14:35.11 | babilen | Akuw: Also "/msg alis help" -- And please ask network/IRC related questions in #freenode and not in Debian (this channel is for Debian support) -- Thank you! |
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| 14:35.32 | babilen | Agiofws: probably :) |
| 14:35.41 | Andymeows | Akuw: don't get scroogled ;-) |
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| 14:37.49 | jelly | Agiofws: it's really hard to say. My own hardware works much better with closed (nvidia) drivers than with open ones. YMMV. |
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| 14:38.58 | Agiofws | yes it seams that nvidia does a much better job than amd when it comes to linux |
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| 14:51.17 | gypsymauro | hi |
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| 14:53.21 | gypsymauro | I'm trying to create an init.d script copying some code snipset from other scripts :) but I've a strange behaviour, I've a script python that is a daemon, when I launch it manually it works and creates one process, if I call it with my script it creates two processes (the second has pid+1 of the first) I run this command /sbin/start-stop-daemon --background --start --quiet --oknodo --make-pidfile --pidfile /var/run/openpa.pid --exec /etc/openpa/openpa.p |
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| 15:08.01 | Devastator | gypsymauro I would read /etc/init.d/skeleton if I were you |
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| 15:47.37 | Agiofws | how do i suspend my laptop from command line (wheezy) + gnome3 ? |
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| 15:49.26 | jelly | Agiofws: pm-suspend command |
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| 15:54.33 | Agiofws | cool jelly is there a way i can wake up my wifi laptop from suspend mode ? |
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| 15:54.52 | Agiofws | is the wifi UP so i can login to it and wake it up ? |
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| 15:55.09 | jelly | Agiofws: no idea, but that seems unlikely |
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| 15:58.06 | Agiofws | and i don't even know if i can send a WOL packet over wifi i don;t think that my card supports it |
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| 15:59.21 | kfogel | Installing Debian 'testing' dist via net after booting from a UNetBootin-created USB stick, and at the GRUB installation stage, the installer tried to install GRUB on the MBR of the USB stick instead of the 256GB SSD hard drive :-). There didn't appear to be any way to tell it to use the right drive. Anyone seen this before? |
| 15:59.48 | kfogel | I'm re-installing now, and this time have pulled the USB stick out earlier in the process (during the "Erasing data on the [big drive]" step). |
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| 16:17.32 | petn-randall | I'm trying to debug a debian/rules in a source package. When doing 'dpkg-buildpackage -b', I'd like it to spew out every single line before executing it. 'make -d' comes to my mind. However, make only allows the order 'make -f $file -d', so how do I fix the shebang to accomplish this? |
| 16:18.12 | petn-randall | The shebang in debian/rules is '#!/usr/bin/make -f' |
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| 16:20.41 | petn-randall | kfogel: Usually you get to pick where to install grub. |
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| 16:23.06 | kfogel | petn-randall: I would have hoped so, but there was no option given (I looked around). We'll see what happens this time, given that I've changed two variables: allowing it to complete the Erase step this time, and took out the USB stick entirely. |
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| 16:23.45 | sonofzeus | hi http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LXDE_desktop_full.png how shall i get this theme? |
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| 16:24.43 | sonofzeus | i have lxde |
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| 16:31.11 | petn-randall | samruger: http://ompldr.org/vaTQ4ag ... you're welcome. |
| 16:31.25 | petn-randall | :P |
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| 16:35.05 | deuterium | hi. i'm installing squeeze with a raid1+lvm setup. now the installer asks me where to install grub2. does "/dev/mapper/pve-root" sound reasonable? i can't find no /dev/mapper/sdc or so.. only lvm logical volumes are listed there. does this ensure that grub2 is installed to the MBRs of both disks of the raid1 array? |
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| 16:36.58 | paxcoder | what time (minutes only) do your machines report? |
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| 16:37.12 | paxcoder | (question to everyone) |
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| 16:37.36 | ChibaPet | petn-randall: You don't get to pick targets, oddly. Even in the expert install this is a thorn. It comes up for me because my default build uses MD RAID 1, and I have to do a post-install step of dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc to get GRUB onto both halves of the mirror. |
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| 16:38.29 | petn-randall | paxcoder: No surveys please. If you want the current time, query a NTP server near you. |
| 16:38.47 | jelly | if anyone wishes, they may answer in private |
| 16:39.09 | paxcoder | petn-randall, that's exactly why i'm doing this. I think i have a link to a NTPs but my clock is constantly a few mins late |
| 16:39.10 | PapaSier_ | how do i create a user only if he doesn't already exist? i tried this but i don't know that it's quite right: id -u bob &>/dev/null || useradd -m -d /home/bob bob |
| 16:39.12 | petn-randall | deuterium: You should install grub to a physical volume, like /dev/sda |
| 16:40.00 | petn-randall | ChibaPet: I didn't know that. Is that only on the wheezy installer? |
| 16:40.09 | et | PapaSier_: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ |
| 16:40.28 | PapaSier_ | et, que? |
| 16:40.47 | et | er |
| 16:40.48 | petn-randall | et: That was probably meant for paxcoder. |
| 16:40.57 | sonofzeus | help pls |
| 16:40.58 | et | yes. |
| 16:41.17 | et | i didn't see PapaSier_ talking and assumed two characters were enough ;) |
| 16:41.40 | jelly | !spank et |
| 16:41.41 | dpkg | bends et over his knee and delivers a mighty *THWACK* |
| 16:41.43 | ChibaPet | petn-randall: I don't remember with sufficient clarity to say yes or no about the Squeeze installer. It's definitely true of the RC1 installer for Wheezy. |
| 16:42.46 | deuterium | petn-randall: so i should enter there the actual devices instead of sth like /dev/mapper/my-logical-volume? |
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| 16:43.29 | deuterium | petn-randall: can i also enter many physical devices there? e.g. /dev/sdc /dev/sdd /dev/sde /dev/sdf? |
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| 16:43.58 | deuterium | petn-randall: i have 4 disks in two raid1 arrays in total: sdc+sdd -> md0, sde+sdf -> md1 |
| 16:44.09 | petn-randall | deuterium: You even *must* use your physical volumes. Your LVM is only up after boot, so grub won't be able to read it otherwise. |
| 16:44.45 | deuterium | petn-randall: and i want grub2 to be installed on all mbrs of all disks, so the box boots even if one of the raid1 arrays deintegrated |
| 16:44.51 | deuterium | petn-randall: oh ok |
| 16:44.57 | petn-randall | deuterium: You need to at least install grub to the disk you're booting from. However, best practice is to add it to all physical disks, in case you change the wiring or boot order some time in the future. |
| 16:45.17 | deuterium | petn-randall: thanks for the hint. the installer suggests "/dev/mapper" by default, that's why i'm confused |
| 16:46.00 | deuterium | petn-randall: the installer understands if i separate several physical devices with a space character? |
| 16:46.08 | petn-randall | deuterium: Ehm, what I meant: Your BIOS doesn't know about your LVM, that's why grub needs to be install onto your physical devices. |
| 16:46.29 | petn-randall | deuterium: Try it, I haven't used the installer in a while. |
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| 16:48.01 | deuterium | petn-randall: ok! thanks for this important hint! |
| 16:48.52 | petn-randall | deuterium: You're welcome. If listing the devices on the installer question didn't work, grub will throw an error. Did it work? |
| 16:49.59 | deuterium | petn-randall: it worked.. the installer simply seems to pass the whole line to grub-install :) |
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| 16:52.22 | petn-randall | deuterium: niiice. Glad to see it worked. |
| 16:53.41 | jelly | paxcoder: /etc/default/ntp ought to list -g in NTPD_OPTS |
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| 16:54.38 | paxcoder | jelly, hmm i don't have that file. i guess that's my problem then... i do have openntpd installed though |
| 16:54.40 | deuterium | petn-randall: :) |
| 16:55.08 | jelly | paxcoder: I have no idea what openntpd uses; that config file is for ntp. |
| 16:55.25 | jelly | peruse your openntpd package docs, I guess |
| 16:55.42 | paxcoder | jelly, oh |
| 16:56.02 | dexta | evening |
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| 17:01.30 | paxcoder | jelly, guess i'm synced now thanks |
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| 17:10.09 | benedict | hi, i had to replace a network card and now it is listed as eth3 instead of eth2. how can i force it to be eth2 so that i don'T have to mod iptables and all that? |
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| 17:10.44 | somiaj | benedict: modify a udev rule, let me look it up |
| 17:11.01 | nabblet | somiaj: thank you for your reply, please note i changed my nick |
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| 17:11.25 | somiaj | nabblet: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules -- that associates eth? with a mac address, modify that file and reboot |
| 17:11.38 | nabblet | somiaj: awesome! thank you! |
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| 17:14.10 | benedikt | somiaj: that was one confusing highlight. |
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| 17:14.25 | benedikt | nabblet: i liked your old nick better. |
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| 17:15.27 | nabblet | benedikt: you can have it ;) |
| 17:16.40 | nabblet | benedikt: als benedict is already registerd - not by me :( |
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| 17:17.32 | vieux | help |
| 17:17.58 | ksuhku | !ask |
| 17:17.59 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 17:18.01 | nabblet | vieux: well... that's the way to ask question :D |
| 17:18.08 | benedikt | nabblet: i might have registered it once, but i'm afraid it doesn't belong to me any more. Freenode has rules to counter nick hoarding (thankfully): But I do belive this is offtopic, but its nice encountering a near-namesake in the wild. |
| 17:18.31 | nabblet | benedikt: a wild benedikt appeard ! |
| 17:18.40 | nabblet | grabs the master-nick-ball |
| 17:18.44 | nabblet | nuff ot :P |
| 17:18.51 | benedikt | :D |
| 17:19.26 | ksuhku | !fr |
| 17:19.27 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr. |
| 17:19.56 | nabblet | somiaj: ok, so in that file i can delete the line that specifies the old nic and then mod the line for the new nick to eth2? |
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| 17:20.50 | somiaj | nabblet: correct. All it does is associate a mac address with ethX, that way on every boot the device gets defined the same. When you put in a new card, it had to assign it a new ethX. So if the old card is never gonna be used again, you can delete the line |
| 17:21.07 | nabblet | somiaj: ok |
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| 17:26.27 | PapaSierra | how, on the shell, do i useradd a user ONLY if he doesn't exist? (or suppress errors as a second prize) |
| 17:26.30 | Joshmeows | hello, I'm seeing a package for openjdk-6-jre-headless, but not openjdk-6-jdk-headless. Is there a way to install the jdk without x11/etc? |
| 17:27.13 | HSorgYves | Good morning; I have two separate physical networks on eth0 and eth1 and I need to route everythings that originates from an eth0 ip (multiple) to ip0 and everything that originates from an eth1 ip (multiple) to ip1. Does anyone know a how-to? Many thanks in advance for your input! |
| 17:27.23 | somiaj | PapaSierra: why do you want to supress the errors? |
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| 17:27.44 | rryoumaa | PapaSierra: 2>/dev/null might work, but i wouldn't recommend it |
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| 17:27.54 | petn-randall | PapaSierra: The way you pasted earlier looked like the proper way. Doesn't that work? |
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| 17:28.10 | somiaj | PapaSierra: adduser username 2>/dev/null -- as rryoumaa said you can just make the errors not seen |
| 17:28.13 | PapaSierra | because i'm creating a user remotely via a script over ssh and i don't want it to break out |
| 17:28.34 | petn-randall | HSorgYves: So you want the two network cards to act as a switch? |
| 17:28.36 | et | shell scripts don't "break" on error (unless you ask for it) |
| 17:28.42 | PapaSierra | petn-randall: it looked right, but the user doesn't seem to get created |
| 17:28.55 | petn-randall | PapaSierra: Because it exists? |
| 17:29.02 | nabblet | HSorgYves: sound like a calls call for iptable to me :P maybe you weill have luck in #networking? |
| 17:29.13 | HSorgYves | petn-randall: no, they should not switch the traffic, they should keep each traffic on the corresponding eth |
| 17:29.20 | PapaSierra | petn-randall: no, even the first time it doesn't get created. let me test again to be sure... |
| 17:29.28 | HSorgYves | nabblet: thx, will try that |
| 17:29.38 | zerooneone | how do i figure out which version `apt-get upgrade foo-package` will upgrade to? |
| 17:29.42 | somiaj | PapaSierra: if you want to you could check or the user irst, 'grep username /etc/passwd' and if that returns empty you don't have the user existing |
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| 17:30.02 | et | replace that grep with "getent passwd username" |
| 17:30.06 | zykotick9 | zerooneone: "apt-cache policy foo-package" should show you. |
| 17:30.32 | zerooneone | zykotick9: perfect thanks |
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| 17:31.12 | petn-randall | HSorgYves: Then your description isn't accurate enough yet. Do you want to transfer ethernet frames or IP datagrams? It would also help if you explain your specific case. |
| 17:31.40 | nabblet | HSorgYves: what is ip0 and ip1 in yur case? |
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| 17:32.20 | nabblet | *your |
| 17:32.31 | HSorgYves | petn-randall: eth0 -> xxx.yyy.99.90/24 (gateway xxx.yyy.99.1), eth1 -> xxx.yyy.98.90/24 (xxx.yyy.98.1) |
| 17:33.00 | somiaj | HSorgYves: there are various ways to go about it, if you want routing you might want to look up a basic 'NAT' howto. But if you don't need routing/network address translation, a simple route cna work to |
| 17:33.07 | qdb | hello , if my dns are set autovatically, how can i know out current dns ? resolv conf has : domain Home search Home nameserver 192.168.1.1 |
| 17:33.18 | PapaSierra | petn-randall: so this is how i'm doing it: http://www.hastebin.com/raw/juroxuxeca and to verify, id bob gives "no such user" |
| 17:33.37 | petn-randall | HSorgYves: If you set up the nodes on each side of the correctly (to use that computer as a gateway), simply enabling ip_forward will do the job. |
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| 17:34.01 | somiaj | qdb: that looks like it is using your router as the dns, and so you need to goto your router and see what dns it uses (caches from) |
| 17:34.46 | HSorgYves | petn-randall: it's not about transfer; it's about where answer's are sent |
| 17:34.47 | HSorgYves | somiaj: route cna? |
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| 17:35.27 | qdb | somiaj, i cannot enter with admin admin to 192 168 1 1 . and i tried dig @ 192 .. it did not work |
| 17:35.29 | HSorgYves | somiaj: i don't need translation, just an answer from xxx.yyy.99.zzz should go through xxx.yyy.99.1 and an answer from xxx.yyy.98.zzz should go through xxx.yyy.98.1 |
| 17:35.51 | HSorgYves | petn-randall: i do not want to forward neither link the two networks, I want to keep them seperate |
| 17:36.08 | qdb | somiaj, my dns do not work |
| 17:36.10 | petn-randall | HSorgYves: Your setup is confusing. What are you trying to achieve? |
| 17:36.16 | qdb | i want to set custom dns |
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| 17:36.27 | qdb | how to do ? just make resolv conf as it was ? |
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| 17:36.30 | petn-randall | qdb: Change the DNS on your router. |
| 17:36.40 | somiaj | qdb: then modify /etc/resolve.conf to use the dns servers you want |
| 17:36.43 | qdb | petn-randall, i cannot enter router |
| 17:36.48 | qdb | somiaj, ok |
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| 17:37.03 | HSorgYves | petn-randall: as I said, the server is connected to two phisical networks which need to be kept physically separate |
| 17:37.16 | somiaj | qdb: and tell your system not to change it. This is dependent on how you set up your ip addres, if you use dhclient you can tell it not to overwrite resolv.conf |
| 17:37.20 | HSorgYves | petn-randall: however there are services which respond to ips on both networks |
| 17:37.21 | PapaSierra | petn-randall: funny thing is when i run those two commands in succession the user is not created. but if i log into the server and run then manually on the server's shell the user is created just fine |
| 17:37.30 | somiaj | arg, it is /etc/resolv.conf -- hate how I always type an e at the end, tab complition has spoiled me |
| 17:37.35 | HSorgYves | petn-randall: and there answer needs to be sent to the correct gateway |
| 17:37.56 | somiaj | PapaSierra: so how are you running them remotly, what is the command you are using? |
| 17:37.56 | jhutchins_wk | qdb: Are you getting DHCP from your own router? |
| 17:38.00 | petn-randall | HSorgYves: What specifically? You're trying to set up a transparent web proxy? |
| 17:38.03 | HSorgYves | petn-randall: i though this might be done with "ip route", but I never used that |
| 17:38.10 | qdb | jhutchins_wk, probably |
| 17:38.28 | jhutchins_wk | qdb: Fix the setup there then. |
| 17:38.34 | kfogel | petn-randall: Do you know if hitting "Cancel" in the "Erase disk" step (which otherwise can take hours, and is unnecessary in my case because this is a new hard drive) can have any effect on the rest of the installation, such as affecting whether the GRUB step later on prefers the HD vs the USB stick? |
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| 17:38.45 | petn-randall | HSorgYves: The reason I'm asking is depending on what you're trying to achieve *specifically*, the solutions are quite different. |
| 17:38.59 | HSorgYves | petn-randall: no; like bind/named for example |
| 17:39.02 | kfogel | petn-randall: And btw, I notice you answering a lot of questions in here. If there's a tip jar I can put something into, let me know; I'd happy to go there! |
| 17:39.12 | PapaSierra | somiaj: i'm using capistrano which is a ruby project that has some wrappers for ssh stuff. so i do run '...' <-- in the quotes i put shell commands that will be executed on the server using "sh -c '...'" |
| 17:39.27 | jhutchins_wk | qdb: Otherwise see the manpage for dhclient.conf which will tell you how to override things properly. |
| 17:39.28 | petn-randall | kfogel: I think you can cancel it and then skip that step. |
| 17:39.43 | qdb | auto eth1 iface eth1 inet dhcp address 192.168.1.122 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.1.1 should no i edit this so that dns cannot be changed |
| 17:39.44 | somiaj | PapaSierra: are you loging in as a root user via ssh for this? |
| 17:39.50 | PapaSierra | yes |
| 17:39.51 | petn-randall | kfogel: If you can't skip that step, the installer will force you to do it again. |
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| 17:40.08 | somiaj | PapaSierra: or have sudo setup, for the user. Is this script on the remote machine? |
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| 17:40.41 | PapaSierra | somiaj: i am root. (the server is brand new. as soon as this user is set up i will no longer ever need root access) |
| 17:40.44 | somiaj | PapaSierra: if the script works fine when you ssh over manually but won't do it via your wrapper, something is wrong with the ssh call. |
| 17:40.46 | qdb | jhutchins_wk, ok |
| 17:40.53 | kfogel | petn-randall: thx, that's what I thought, but nice to have it confirmed. |
| 17:40.56 | qdb | what i showed was interfaces |
| 17:41.22 | HSorgYves | petn-randall: http://pastebin.com/ZCk4zG9e |
| 17:41.45 | jhutchins_wk | qdb: See the manpage for dhclient.conf which will tell you how to override things properly. |
| 17:41.54 | HSorgYves | petn-randall: this doesn't work; answers from xxx.yyy.99.90 simply "disappear" |
| 17:41.54 | qdb | seems easy : request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,domain-name, domain-name-servers, |
| 17:42.04 | qdb | ok |
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| 17:42.25 | jhutchins_wk | qdb: Having both dhcp and an address there is not correct and should not work. |
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| 17:43.20 | somiaj | most likely once it sees dhcp it ignores all the other settings |
| 17:43.49 | qdb | somiaj, seems resolv conf works. and it is not changed yet after i changed it |
| 17:44.11 | jhutchins_wk | somiaj: You don't suppose it can fall back do you? |
| 17:44.36 | PapaSierra | somiaj: here's the output http://www.hastebin.com/raw/jolukigagu |
| 17:44.40 | jhutchins_wk | qdb: resolv.conf will be overwritten next time dhcp starts. |
| 17:44.47 | somiaj | jhutchins_wk: I know you can have as many options as you want there, even if they are not supported/valid |
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| 17:45.15 | somiaj | jhutchins_wk: my guess is the script won't fall back, but does something like, 'dhcp' -- run this command with these variables (it then pulls from the list) |
| 17:45.19 | somiaj | or static, etc |
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| 17:46.30 | qdb | thank you |
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| 17:47.08 | somiaj | PapaSierra: yea I don't know what that ruby wrapper is doing. Either it is not running the command correctly or is running it as an invalid user. |
| 17:47.58 | HSorgYves | petn-randall: still around? |
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| 17:51.21 | nabblet | hi, what's the best way to "cache" deb files? i have to set up mayn computer with the same software collection but bad internet connection. |
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| 17:52.07 | nabblet | so i don't want to download each package X times - but only once and then distribute it via LAN, USB stick, ... |
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| 18:05.05 | p0wn3d | nabblet: It sounds like you want to create your own local repository and point your clients to it. |
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| 18:11.50 | SARC | Hello, I am running the latest squeeze on a Dell PE R620. On boot, I receive a pci 0000:01:00.1 BAR 6: address space collision on of device [0xdc000000 - 0xdc07ffff] error. What's the best way to troubleshoot this type of error? |
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| 18:16.22 | bitHipy | what happened to mythtv? iirc, there was a mythtv package in the etch repos |
| 18:16.42 | bitHipy | but squeeze only has "mythtv-status" |
| 18:16.45 | jelly-home | iph a mythery |
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| 18:17.06 | jelly-home | mythtery* |
| 18:17.36 | jelly-home | judd: versions mythtv |
| 18:17.37 | judd | Package: mythtv on i386 -- squeeze-multimedia: 0.24.2-0.0squeeze1; sid-multimedia: 0.26.0+fixes20130330-dmo1; wheezy-multimedia: 0.26.0+fixes20130330-dmo1 |
| 18:17.51 | jelly-home | judd: bug rm mythtv |
| 18:17.54 | judd | Sorry, no removal reasons were found. |
| 18:18.22 | jelly-home | can't be bothered to look up the removal manually |
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| 18:19.45 | bitHipy | thanks.. at least i know where it is |
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| 18:20.17 | bitHipy | what's the point in a separate repo for multimedia? |
| 18:20.32 | bitHipy | is it untrustworthy |
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| 18:22.37 | bitHipy | i think i had to add that multimedia repo to etch.. so mythtv may have been there all along |
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| 18:25.05 | SARC | I am also during boot receiving an error i8042.c: No controller found |
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| 18:30.19 | hub2 | Hi, Why if I make a copy of whole disk and then i use it on other computer, only swaps uuid changes? |
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| 18:32.27 | useless-eater | hub2: you copy with clonezilla? My guess is that your program understands its a swap partition, and dont bother copying it, but creates it over again. |
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| 18:33.48 | hub2 | useless-eater: Yes, it might be that |
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| 18:38.52 | SARC | I am running the latest squeeze on a Dell PE R620. On boot, I receive a pci 0000:01:00.1 BAR 6: address space collision on of device [0xdc000000 - 0xdc07ffff] error. What's the best way to troubleshoot this type of error? |
| 18:40.36 | loginl | sarc #debian-fr #debian-fr is a french channel . |
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| 18:40.59 | SARC | login1: I dont speak french? |
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| 18:41.13 | loginl | sarc update ur debian. |
| 18:41.33 | SARC | login1: ive done an apt-get upgrade.... it is up to date |
| 18:41.54 | loginl | no squeze is an old version of debian |
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| 18:42.10 | et | squeeze is the "current" one |
| 18:42.27 | SARC | yeah |
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| 18:42.54 | et | you can, however, use the testing version, which is close to release |
| 18:43.11 | SARC | et, how close is close? weeks? months? |
| 18:43.58 | bitHipy | wow.. 738 live bugs in aptitude.. that's insane |
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| 18:44.22 | bitHipy | adds another aptitude bug to the stack |
| 18:44.28 | loginl | no debian Wheezy stable is the new version of debian. |
| 18:44.31 | bitHipy | pilin' it on |
| 18:45.21 | et | loginl: no. http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/Release |
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| 18:46.22 | et | SARC: around the time when the green line in http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ becomes 0. |
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| 18:46.28 | Anirban1987 | No acceptable C compiler found in $PATH |
| 18:46.33 | Anirban1987 | how to solve it ? |
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| 18:47.01 | kaen | Anirban1987, sudo apt-get install build-essential ? |
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| 18:47.59 | SARC | et, 33 not bad... |
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| 18:48.40 | truko22 | electoral fraud in Venezuela o/ |
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| 18:58.50 | bitHipy | wow.. no #aptitude channel |
| 18:59.03 | bitHipy | no wonder there are over 300 bugs |
| 18:59.55 | jelly-home | that happens with complex, well used software |
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| 19:01.11 | bitHipy | i just added another bug |
| 19:01.21 | bitHipy | but i'll be damned if i'm gonna fix it myself |
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| 19:01.35 | bitHipy | there are more exciting projects to work on |
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| 19:01.59 | bitHipy | so i just added the bug to someone elses work pile... muahahaha |
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| 19:03.07 | bitHipy | and anyone who thinks i'm a menace to society can get stuffed! muahahaha |
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| 19:04.10 | winny | hello, is there a package that contains nginx's access module? |
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| 19:07.34 | somiaj | winny: have you tried apt-cache search (aptitude search) then apt-cache show to look at the various ngix packages description? |
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| 19:08.04 | winny | yeah, I think it's actually a compile-time only flag |
| 19:08.19 | winny | I should have figured that out before asking, lol. Time to rebuild this package, I guess. |
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| 19:12.48 | HSorgYves | in which order is /etc/network/interfaces processes? top-down? |
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| 19:23.25 | hrenovo | what is a good monitoring tool for debian ? |
| 19:23.30 | pagios_ | i , i am trying to establish ssh keys between 2 machines, executed ssh-keygen on machine1, copied the pub to machine2 authorized_keys now trying to log infrom machine1 i still get a prompt for password |
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| 19:36.31 | pagios_ | i , i am trying to establish ssh keys between 2 machines, executed ssh-keygen on machine1, copied the pub to machine2 authorized_keys now trying to log infrom machine1 i still get a prompt for password |
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| 19:37.44 | matoc | pagios_: I like using "ssh-copy-id user@remoteserver.com" |
| 19:38.08 | pagios_ | matoc: that would copy the public keu to that user? |
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| 19:38.51 | matoc | pagios_: yup. so the next time you do "ssh user@remoteserver.com", you won't get prompted for a password. |
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| 19:39.14 | matoc | pagios_: note that it ssh-copy-id only works with the default port 22. |
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| 19:39.58 | pagios_ | matoc: works fine |
| 19:40.05 | Deathzor | hey guys i'm getting random malloc errors and kernel crashes anybody know where i should be looking ? |
| 19:40.05 | pagios_ | i need to do a ssh keygen first right |
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| 19:40.35 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | Deathzor: test your ram maybe? |
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| 19:41.39 | Deathzor | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI: worth a shot will do so when i have to reboot the box again |
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| 19:42.05 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | yes, reboot and select the memtest option from grub |
| 19:42.14 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | which, you might have to install memtest to get |
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| 19:48.37 | erennnn | tiny |
| 19:48.38 | erennnn | u here ? |
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| 19:54.44 | nonconvergent | Running XFCE on wheezy 7, but apparently my machine is working very hard to put up screensavers. I go away and find the temp has from 22C to 38-40C, I wake it up and it's fine. |
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| 19:58.28 | DaisyThe1ow | I've mounted an internal hdd at /media/username/Downloads in fstab. I get a drive icon on the desktop. Is this normal? I don't get one for /home |
| 19:58.47 | morosai | nonconvergent: open a term, acquire root, cd to /sys/class/thermal/, and open cooling_device0/cur_state in vim. Is it set to 0? |
| 19:58.56 | DaisyThe1ow | I'm wondering if the system thinks that it's a removeable hdd |
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| 19:59.22 | mtn | DaisyThe1ow: that is the way it works on mine, too |
| 20:00.00 | ksuhku | nonconvergent, to see what's happening leave it running e.g. while true;do top -bn1|head -n15; sleep 10;done |
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| 20:00.07 | nonconvergent | morosai: Root's not necessary. ANd it's 0. |
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| 20:01.04 | DaisyThe1ow | Should I be using /mnt or /media for an internal hdd? Does it matter? |
| 20:01.29 | CissWit | it doesn't |
| 20:01.46 | CissWit | you can use whatever you want |
| 20:02.16 | DaisyThe1ow | Why does the system think that the drive is removeable? I thought it might have something to do with where it was mounted |
| 20:02.18 | ksuhku | DaisyThe1ow, FYI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_directory_structure |
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| 20:02.51 | mtn | DaisyThe1ow: it thinks it is mounted, which it is |
| 20:03.37 | DaisyThe1ow | mtn: it thinks it is removeable, which it isn't |
| 20:03.53 | DaisyThe1ow | ksuhku: Thanks. I think your link has provided the answer. |
| 20:04.13 | ksuhku | DaisyThe1ow, you're welcome |
| 20:04.28 | mtn | DaisyThe1ow: whatever |
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| 20:08.07 | nonconvergent | There it is. |
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| 20:09.16 | nonconvergent | http://paste.debian.net/249977/ |
| 20:09.27 | nonconvergent | xflame is costly |
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| 20:15.46 | ksuhku | !next |
| 20:15.47 | dpkg | A satisfied customer? We should have him stuffed! |
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| 20:18.29 | Azrael_- | hi |
| 20:19.52 | Azrael_- | i want to compile pushpool but configure checks for this lib: "checking for memcached_get in -lmemcached... no" although i already installed libmemcache-dev. can you give me a hint why this doesn't work? |
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| 20:20.55 | babilen | Azrael_-: Is pushpool in Debian? |
| 20:21.07 | Azrael_- | no, i got it as source :) |
| 20:21.56 | babilen | Azrael_-: Looks as if you are missing the memcache -dev package, did you search for it already or tried to install it? |
| 20:22.04 | babilen | *memcached |
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| 20:23.19 | Azrael_- | thanks for the hint. overlooked the difference between memcache and memcached |
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| 20:23.37 | _1_almtem | :'( |
| 20:23.44 | babilen | Azrael_-: Are you now able to solve this problem or should I take a look? |
| 20:23.48 | _1_almtem | hi all |
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| 20:24.36 | Azrael_- | babilen: thanks, it solved the problem i asked first. now it's just some mysql-dependencies missing but i think i can figure this out on my own. |
| 20:25.52 | babilen | Azrael_-: rinse, repeat ;) |
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| 20:26.20 | babilen | _2_almtem: Can we help you with anything? |
| 20:27.10 | milovan | hi, i have a problem: server lost power and after turning on mysql wont start. It seems to be complaining about socket. Anyone have any suggestion? |
| 20:27.17 | milovan | Server is Debian 6 |
| 20:28.23 | p0wn3d | sonofzeus: Type the command lxappearance |
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| 20:48.33 | BenLue | Question: why i cant ping from my 2 different Networks? Here my route -n: http://paste.debian.net/249985/ |
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| 20:58.48 | hulubu | Hi all, i have a package specific question, and not sure, this is the right place to ask, let me know if not, and pls also recommend a more relevant chanel or forum, so i try to setup the iwatch package |
| 20:59.20 | unkmar | Okay, enter my dream world. I want to PXE boot debian so I can have the same image across multiple machines. <continued> |
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| 20:59.51 | hulubu | it does working well for one contactpoint, but i need more then one |
| 21:00.14 | unkmar | I know several bits of information that are somewhat related. syslinux, pxelinux, capser for persistance. <more> |
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| 21:00.54 | ompaul | hulubu: you mean you don't know how to use /etc/alias ? |
| 21:00.58 | unkmar | I already have the DHCP server pointing to the tftp server and boot memtest via PXE. So, I have the base going. |
| 21:01.05 | BenLue | anyone idea |
| 21:01.21 | AFlyingMonkey | what character encoding does debian use? |
| 21:01.25 | Azrael_- | babilen: could i request once more some help from you? the configure script has python in it which tries to verify mysql. it uses the m4-scripts for this and fails with this error: "syntax error near unexpected token `AX_LIB_MYSQL'". atm i have no clue how to proceed |
| 21:01.38 | unkmar | BenLue: ask again, I didn't get to read your question. Just joined minutes ago. |
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| 21:01.47 | AFlyingMonkey | trying to SSH in on an android and the password doesn't work on the phone but does on putty. |
| 21:01.54 | hulubu | ompaul: ?? how is this question related to /etc/alias ? |
| 21:01.57 | ompaul | hulubu: on the mail server set up an alias when you have it in the format of target: user1,user2 and so forth then newalias |
| 21:02.11 | ompaul | hulubu: you want more than one contact point |
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| 21:02.26 | ompaul | hulubu: or am I missing something |
| 21:03.37 | hulubu | ompaul: http://iwatch.sourceforge.net/documentation.html "<contactpoint email="webmaster@localhost" name="Web Master"/>" |
| 21:03.55 | unkmar | AFlyingMonkey: could be keyboard entry issues. mixed case, special characters. In other words, depending on the virtual keyboard you used, the password may simply be incorrect on your phone. |
| 21:04.04 | hulubu | i need more then one, and i do not want to setup a mail list for all the combination, |
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| 21:05.02 | ompaul | hulubu: /etc/alias is not a mail list it is a great way to keep roles rotating to the right people |
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| 21:05.47 | BenLue | okay im connected with via PPTP and i cant ping the Clients in my Network. my route -n: http://paste.debian.net/249985/ |
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| 21:07.16 | AFlyingMonkey | unkmar: I copy/pasted it into the phone terminal. Im not familiar enough with android virtual keyboards or virtual keyboards in general to know if this would have an effect or not. Regardless theres only one way to find out, use the encoding setting and set it to debians character encoding! |
| 21:07.45 | hulubu | ompaul: that is fine, but it's not about roles, this is a nice workournd but not a solution i think. i have few folder which should be watch by more then one admin |
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| 21:08.13 | unkmar | AFlyingMonkey: probably got a trailing or possible leading space during the copy process. |
| 21:08.19 | AFlyingMonkey | which brings me back to my original question, or rather a revision: what s debian's default character encoding? |
| 21:08.36 | AFlyingMonkey | unkmar: hrm Ive tried both a couple times |
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| 21:08.53 | hulubu | ompaul: i think, this is possible with the package, but i do not know the right format of the xml, and there is no record about this in the man |
| 21:09.15 | unkmar | AFlyingMonkey: which android version? |
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| 21:09.40 | AFlyingMonkey | 4.1.2 |
| 21:09.51 | ompaul | hulubu: then I suggest a mail to their list if it fails don't forget /etc/alias |
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| 21:10.19 | unkmar | AFlyingMonkey: you might want to try Hacker's Keyboard. from the Google Play. |
| 21:10.30 | ompaul | hulubu: their docs never mention anything more than one, also it is usual to consider these things role accounts which get managed by a group |
| 21:10.55 | AFlyingMonkey | unkmar: is that a alternate virtual keyboard or an alternate mobile SSH client? |
| 21:10.56 | ompaul | hulubu: therefore messing with iwatch rather than something in ldap or /etc/alias or something |
| 21:11.11 | unkmar | AFlyingMonkey: alternated keyboard. |
| 21:11.15 | ompaul | hulubu: rather on the wrong side of iwatch |
| 21:11.34 | unkmar | AFlyingMonkey: you can switch it on and off depending on what your doing. I generally use Swype. |
| 21:11.43 | hulubu | ompaul: ok got it, i will try to write to them first, and we will see |
| 21:11.48 | unkmar | However, I still running ICS, I don't have the new Swipe. |
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| 21:12.13 | ompaul | hulubu: it is perl based so it should be ok to hack |
| 21:12.25 | ompaul | hulubu: but then you have to maintain your delta going forward |
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| 21:12.50 | ompaul | hulubu: and not here be daemons but here be ugly deltas for the managing of |
| 21:12.52 | unkmar | AFlyingMonkey: I've been using ConnectBot and VX Connectbot. the VX is just a front end to Connectbot. |
| 21:13.25 | unkmar | Hacker's Keyboard is by Klaus Weidner. |
| 21:13.26 | AFlyingMonkey | unkmar: whats swype? |
| 21:13.50 | ompaul | AFlyingMonkey: you don't move your finger off the keyboard |
| 21:14.06 | unkmar | AFlyingMonkey: Swype is a virtual keyboard. It is a pay product that came preinstalled on my Galaxy Note, GT-N7000 |
| 21:14.16 | ompaul | AFlyingMonkey: but I did note that this was #debian not #android ;-) |
| 21:14.45 | unkmar | ompaul: LOL. Yeah, he happened to catch a guy that knows some Android things here. :P |
| 21:14.54 | AFlyingMonkey | unkmar: this explains why I am unable to find it on play |
| 21:14.58 | ompaul | unkmar: more than one ;-) |
| 21:15.10 | AFlyingMonkey | ompaul: hehe ;) |
| 21:15.59 | unkmar | AFlyingMonkey: you generally don't want Swype. Its is very useful but not good for terminal based actions. I always turn it off when doing the terminal thing. |
| 21:16.04 | unkmar | I uses the Hacker's Keyboard for that. |
| 21:16.07 | unkmar | *use |
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| 21:18.53 | AFlyingMonkey | password auth still fails |
| 21:19.08 | AFlyingMonkey | unkmar: did you have any encoding issues? |
| 21:19.26 | unkmar | no. |
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| 21:20.14 | unkmar | I'm American and use United States settings for my debian installs. Well, my phone is international but.. No, I haven't had any problems. |
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| 21:20.24 | AFlyingMonkey | unkmar: thus your ruling it out as the issue I assume. It would appear my remaining questions belong in the android chnnel then :) |
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| 21:21.03 | unkmar | AFlyingMonkey: what version of debian? I've not run newer than squeeze. |
| 21:21.34 | AFlyingMonkey | unkmar: Im running testing, did an update+upgrade yesterday |
| 21:22.11 | unkmar | AFlyingMonkey: and I have connected with ubuntu 6.06, 8.04 and debian 6.x |
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| 21:22.53 | truexfan81 | i'm curious what the original debian was like years ago |
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| 21:30.25 | Blue1 | having trouble getting this wifi card to work: 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Device 0032 (rev 01) -- modprobe shows the driver loaded kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath.ko but I still don't see it doing an ifconfig - |
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| 21:34.25 | LtL | Blue1: have you installed firmware-atheros |
| 21:34.35 | unkmar | Blue1: ifconfig -a ? |
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| 21:38.59 | MrMonkey1 | screams soundlessly |
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| 21:41.27 | vlt | Hello. What pkg do I need to install or configure to be able to write and see unicode chars on a tty console? |
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| 21:42.07 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | vlt: I don't think you can |
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| 21:44.24 | diabel | Hello |
| 21:44.39 | vlt | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI: Hmmm … I think I’ve seen Ubuntu machines where it worked. (“Oh, look—in an X session it works”) |
| 21:45.28 | vlt | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI: I use the very same machine now but with X: »« „“ “” · … – × ÷ — |
| 21:45.35 | diabel | Can some one help me? Can anyone check http://grochowscy.pl and tell me is that everythin ok? (is HTTP 200) |
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| 21:46.58 | vlt | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI: On the tty console from the above line I only use those chars: »« · × ÷ |
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| 21:51.51 | amit` | samsung pays 150+k for software jobs in san jose. Now, all companies are after those candidates they shortlisted for their future teams ! |
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| 21:58.02 | MrMonkey1 | hey, quuuick newb q.: I've uninstalled a kernel module undesireably. does this just mean a file is gone? or is my kernel now ker-plunked? :X |
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| 21:58.20 | lxdiamond__ | someone can help me with disable the log writing of pam unix cron sessions on my debian server? or a link to a tutorial? |
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| 21:59.12 | unkmar | Thank goodness I don't easily through away things I've done before. I've been looking for the following PXE info. netboot=nfs nfsroot=blah blah. I can figure it out from there. |
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| 22:00.51 | bitjor | I do not have a working internet connection, will "debian-wheezy-DI-rc1-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso" install Debian and Xfce fine without the need of a network connection? |
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| 22:01.19 | bitjor | I need to be able to install the wireless USB driver(s) afterwards, as they are not included with that image. |
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| 22:05.28 | sutroix | Is there a Sid netinstall image? |
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| 22:07.14 | tgs3 | AimHere: nice |
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| 22:08.20 | ChibaPet | sutroix: No, you start with something earlier and upgrade. |
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| 22:09.05 | slopjong | can somebody tell me how to get the zip module in debian? i don't find the package which provides the shared library |
| 22:09.13 | slopjong | expected to be in /usr/lib/php5/20090626 |
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| 22:21.53 | benedikt | JavaScript heavy pages (facebook and gmail) are suddenly slow in updated firefox (iceweasel) in testing. This happened after i swapped motherboard, eveything else is fine so it's really far fetched. |
| 22:23.03 | mmnicolas | slopjong: libphp-pclzip - zip archive manager class for PHP ? |
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| 22:27.17 | slopjong | mmnicolas, that's not providing the ZipArchive class |
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| 22:36.30 | kfogel | petn-randall: for the record -- taking out the USB stick *and* letting the Erase step complete worked: I now have a bootable Debian 'testing' box. Which of those two changes was the key, I don't know, since I changed two variables at once, sigh. |
| 22:36.51 | benedikt | installing firefox-nightly fixed the problem, but i wonder what it was |
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| 22:42.26 | mmnicolas | slopjong: well its the only package that starts with libphp- and is related to zip, also it says "zip archive manager class for PHP" cmon :) |
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| 22:43.53 | slopjong | mmnicolas, consider that there might be different implemenations, libphp-pclzip provides PclZip but not ZipArchive which is used in one project |
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| 22:44.42 | mmnicolas | slopjong: oh, maybe this: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libarchive-zip-perl |
| 22:45.01 | mordocai | Hello, ever since installing a new AMD Radeon HD 7850 graphics card I have been getting an error message on boot about 50% of the time that says "recursive fault, reboot needed". Sometimes a reboot will fix this, other times I have to reboot a couple times before it works. Googling has not so far shown any solutions. Any ideas? (i can't find this message in any logs, i think it might be before syslog starts) |
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| 22:46.16 | mmnicolas | or see in the right column, the similar packages |
| 22:46.22 | slopjong | mmnicolas, that's for perl, not for php, but both start with a p ;-) |
| 22:46.53 | slopjong | hm, maybe libzzip-dev |
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| 22:47.12 | slopjong | I have to check their content |
| 22:47.35 | mmnicolas | but perl and php are close relatives |
| 22:48.12 | mmnicolas | anyway, what are you doing ? whats the big picture ? |
| 22:50.50 | slopjong | I need the php class ZipArchive and need the shared library zip.so residing in /usr/lib/php5/20090626, when compiling it from its sources I'm getting a compilation error, no matter what version I'm trying, though the error message is not always the same |
| 22:50.51 | slopjong | pecl install "channel://pecl.php.net/zip-1.10.2" |
| 22:51.03 | unkmar | AMD/ATI over Intel/nVidia? I've been doing the latter. Some strongly suggest the former. I've not received any usable information as to why. |
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| 22:51.52 | slopjong | mmnicolas, give me some more time, I've just seen that I'm missing the pcre header file |
| 22:51.59 | slopjong | maybe that does the trick |
| 22:52.15 | slopjong | first of all, some fresh air |
| 22:53.25 | mmnicolas | unkmar: I say, Intel/Intel unless you want to play games and stuff, then Intel/nVidia |
| 22:54.26 | unkmar | mmnicolas: I have always found Intel video to be troublesome. Traditionally, game has not been my goal. Multiple monitrs has been. |
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| 22:55.24 | mmnicolas | unkmar: intel graphics has provided me with the smoothest sailing I've had, at least KMS was supported and I had no problems with using xrandr for setting up my monitors |
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| 22:55.54 | unkmar | mmnicolas: you have a point with the xrandr. nvidia just doesn't work with it. :( |
| 22:56.05 | mmnicolas | then steam came out, I bought an nvidia and a gaming headset and got crazy |
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| 22:56.28 | unkmar | well, at least not with their native drivers which have a better gui setup. |
| 22:56.30 | mmnicolas | yea the newer version works well with xrandr, even with the older, you just had to do some weird tricks |
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| 22:57.55 | unkmar | for me, everything about nvidia has been a trade off. you want xrandr or you want accelerated graphics? You want easy gui setup or you want handy cli on the fly changes via xrandr? |
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| 22:58.47 | mmnicolas | upgrade to 304.xx it handles xrandr much like anything else now |
| 22:58.58 | unkmar | usually it hasn't been a big deal because the machine was too slow to game, regardless of the card. And compiz benefits just weren't my thing... |
| 22:59.19 | unkmar | except to show of linux bling to onlookers. :) |
| 23:01.09 | unkmar | nvidia 304.xx ? |
| 23:01.32 | unkmar | nm, googled it. |
| 23:02.01 | mmnicolas | the current in wheezy |
| 23:02.30 | MrMonkey1 | uh you bought a graphics board you mean? you don't buy "an nvidia". nvidia is a multi-million dollar company |
| 23:03.08 | MrMonkey1 | that isn't something you just run out and pick up... |
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| 23:03.15 | slopjong | mmnicolas, taking a break was a good idea, I had to install libpcre3-dev in order to compile the zip module |
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| 23:03.38 | mmnicolas | MrMonkey1: -_- |
| 23:04.14 | mmnicolas | MrMonkey1: I also bought a ski-doo, a frigidaire and some kleenex, what about that |
| 23:04.37 | unkmar | MrMonkey1: people state they buy chevy or ford. Not a car from a Chevy or Ford dealership. verbal shortcuts. |
| 23:04.51 | MrMonkey1 | LIES AND PROPAGANDA! |
| 23:05.07 | unkmar | so.... Where you at? :D |
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| 23:05.15 | MrMonkey1 | grats on the new ski-doo tho :W |
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| 23:08.21 | MrMonkey1 | unkmar, NY. it's purdeh in April |
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| 23:08.58 | Azrael_- | hi |
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| 23:10.31 | Azrael_- | are there anywhere packages available for bitcoind 0.7.2? |
| 23:12.11 | mmnicolas | Azrael_-: well.. there is bitcoind |
| 23:12.30 | Azrael_- | yeah, but only a very old version |
| 23:12.46 | Azrael_- | at least as far as i can see |
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| 23:13.21 | Azrael_- | i found only 0.3.24 so far |
| 23:13.57 | mmnicolas | yea, and its no longer in wheezy |
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| 23:43.59 | frognot | if i make a debian install with debootstrap on a usb, and then dd the /dev/usb to /home/filesystem.img, will the bs and cylinder counts be all incorrect? |
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| 23:45.12 | frognot | reason being is that I am having difficulty mounting and installing to some encrypted partitions on a "/home/filesystem.img" and just want to make sure that I am not wasting my time, by not using a usb, or some other method |
| 23:46.48 | frognot | I have never seen a partitoned filesystem.img . for example debian-live usb-hdd image all sits on a sindge partition (/dev/sdX1) |
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| 23:47.13 | frognot | s/sindge/single |
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| 23:50.02 | frognot | for that matter I would like to make a two partitioned version of debian-live as well, with the second partition being for persistence. just for shits and giggles. |
| 23:52.43 | pav5088 | I'm experimenting with Wheezy intrusion detection /w prelude. I've got that working happily, but the prelude plugin for auditd isn't working... or rather I have to run it manually ie. type audisp-prelude at the commandline. I'm feeling like I'm ALMOST there. Any tips to try? |
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| 23:55.45 | larzix | hi, how can auto login to a user just like in a live CD ? my current installation is for testing purposes, i want it to auto login and some programs to start automatically. |
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| 23:59.20 | frognot | look at the init script inside of debian live. That should help. Or just use a login manager like gdm and initiate the programs with .xinitrc or /etc/init/ |
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