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| 00:13.36 | slooth | Hello. I have weird problem. rpcinfo shows details on my nfs server, although showmount doesn't show any dirs. (And it is my clients' issue, because from another client I can normally see the showmount and mount everything I need). nfs-common is installed and started, no errors ANYWHERE. Ideas? |
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| 00:26.48 | mezod | where can i find the documentation for the apache2 package i have installed? |
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| 00:31.22 | abrotman | mezod: /usr/share/doc/apache* |
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| 00:32.13 | mezod | thanks |
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| 00:33.57 | unkmar | I didn't go home. |
| 00:34.11 | unkmar | I pulled the machine and sort of lost one of my monitors for now. |
| 00:34.22 | unkmar | I won't be putting the machine back in the server room. |
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| 00:34.50 | unkmar | which means it also won't have battery backup/ |
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| 00:37.46 | unkmar | My sed fu is getting better. sed -i '26d' .ssh/known_hosts |
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| 00:37.58 | udoprog | anyone else having issues accessing svn.debian.org? |
| 00:39.14 | Towzzer | unkmar, that's the number one reason I use said |
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| 00:41.05 | themill | udoprog: define "issues" |
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| 00:43.24 | udoprog | themill: svn ls svn://svn.debian.org/kernel/releases/linux-2.6 - not responding at all for me? |
| 00:43.55 | mezod | hi i am trying to know my httpd version using "httpd -v" and "httpd -V" but it says command not found, what am i doing wrong? |
| 00:43.59 | udoprog | themill: also, http://anonscm.debian.org seems unresponsive to from my location |
| 00:44.15 | udoprog | too* |
| 00:44.30 | unkmar | so um, where is screen or tmux? who do I not see them listed? |
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| 00:44.49 | unkmar | oh, the freaking package list isn't .. sources.list isn't setup. :( |
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| 00:46.15 | abrotman | mezod: use the full path ? |
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| 00:49.49 | unkmar | where is my screen? |
| 00:50.21 | unkmar | I don't do tmux. where is screen? why do I prefer screen? cause I use it. cause I already have my file configured for it. cause, I decided I want to. |
| 00:50.35 | abrotman | did oyu install it? |
| 00:51.24 | unkmar | it is now longer listed in aptitude |
| 00:51.33 | abrotman | eh? |
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| 00:52.23 | unkmar | I see tmux, but I don't see screen. |
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| 00:52.44 | somiaj | unkmar: aptitude search ~nscreen |
| 00:52.57 | themill | unkmar: sounds like you don't have a mirror in your sources.list |
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| 00:53.19 | somiaj | unkmar: or just aptitude install screen. |
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| 00:54.23 | unkmar | I seriously must have a broken sources.list |
| 00:54.33 | themill | udoprog: yeah, not happy for me here either; I've prodded the admins for it. BTW the kernel package from wheezy (and squeeze-backports) onwards is in the source package "linux" not "linux-2.6". |
| 00:54.35 | abrotman | so psatebin fo rus |
| 00:54.40 | abrotman | unkmar: we can't see your sources.list |
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| 00:55.06 | unkmar | how do I go about reconfiguring my sources.list It never asked during install. |
| 00:55.17 | themill | I bet it did ask... |
| 00:55.21 | themill | unkmar: what release are you using? |
| 00:55.27 | abrotman | waits for the psatebin |
| 00:55.29 | unkmar | And I cloned one that I... squeeze. |
| 00:55.51 | themill | dpkg: tell unkmar about make squeeze sources.list |
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| 00:57.53 | unkmar | http://pastebin.com/XBXS3YmL |
| 00:58.10 | themill | yeah... so no mirror |
| 00:58.20 | truexfan81 | ok new wheezy netinstall, finding myself stuck at grub rescue, how to fix? |
| 00:58.33 | unkmar | abrotman: I was going to install pastebinit but that didn't work either. So, I got delayed. |
| 00:58.51 | abrotman | truexfan81: stuck how? |
| 00:59.11 | truexfan81 | abrotman: grub rescue |
| 00:59.31 | truexfan81 | for some reason i guess the installer didn't run update-grub after it installed it |
| 01:00.38 | unkmar | crap |
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| 01:00.41 | truexfan81 | i need to know how to make grub rescue load the os so i can do that myself to fix it |
| 01:00.44 | unkmar | I did it again. |
| 01:01.04 | abrotman | oops |
| 01:01.33 | unkmar | these usb drives are a pain during installs. |
| 01:02.55 | truexfan81 | abrotman: so if i read this right, if i type hd0,0 it should load debian, right? |
| 01:03.15 | abrotman | depending how you configured it, that may work |
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| 01:03.27 | truexfan81 | or it may be hd0,1 |
| 01:03.29 | truexfan81 | brb |
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| 01:04.30 | truexfan81 | says unknown command |
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| 01:05.25 | unkmar | okay, no I don't appear to have done it again. these hybrids look funny. |
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| 01:07.10 | mezod | how can i find these packages: APR 1.4.6, APR-Util 1.4.1 ? |
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| 01:08.40 | themill | mezod: what are you really trying to do here? |
| 01:09.19 | mezod | i installed apache2 and it is using those packages, it seems i have older versions of these packages and i dont know how to update them or install the ones i need |
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| 01:10.03 | themill | mezod: all you need to do is "aptitude install apache2" -- these details are not important to you |
| 01:10.14 | mezod | i did that |
| 01:10.25 | mezod | and i cant start apache now because of those packages |
| 01:10.30 | friendlylinux | hi, does anyone have a debian chroot set up on their android phone? the links in the wiki are broken ::( |
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| 01:11.12 | themill | mezod: can you please put real commands and real output in a pastebin for us? |
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| 01:11.34 | mezod | sure |
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| 01:13.18 | mezod | themill i am not sure of what you need tho, i used apt-get install apache2, configured a couple of vhosts, and now i cant start apache because of an error that comes from having outdates apr packages |
| 01:13.26 | mezod | outdated* |
| 01:13.35 | abrotman | mezod: show us the errors from the apache error logs |
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| 01:15.09 | mezod | abrotman themill http://pastebin.com/2WdrMWje |
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| 01:17.45 | abrotman | but apache worked with the default config? |
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| 01:19.12 | mezod | yes |
| 01:19.21 | themill | mezod: what release of debian is this? |
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| 01:19.33 | mezod | very old.. 4.3.2.1 |
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| 01:20.03 | themill | eh? |
| 01:20.20 | Guest81929 | How can Rpy library path be linked to user's PATH |
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| 01:20.55 | themill | mezod: can you please pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy apache2 libapr1 libaptutil1 libc6 dpkg apt; apt-cache policy" for us? |
| 01:21.08 | truexfan81 | ok i need help here, the instructions on the web are getting me nowhere with grub rescue |
| 01:21.29 | truexfan81 | grub is installed to the mbr, only partition on the drive is / |
| 01:21.53 | truexfan81 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:24.14 | truexfan81 | typing ls results in (hd0) (hd0,msdos1) (hd1) (hd1,msdos2) (hd1,msdos1) (fd0) |
| 01:24.41 | truexfan81 | not sure what other info to give you |
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| 01:24.53 | mezod | themill http://pastebin.com/8pjfDdpq |
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| 01:31.23 | themill | mezod: so you have an interesting mix of lenny and unstable. Fun. Is this an important machine or just something you play with? |
| 01:31.41 | mezod | something i play with |
| 01:31.51 | mezod | but that hosts my websites |
| 01:32.02 | truexfan81 | anyone? |
| 01:32.35 | themill | mezod: backing up your data and reinstalling wheezy would be the easiest approach; changing your sources.list to wheezy and then trying to hammer the install until it is actually wheezy not a mixture of random releases should also be possible but will be more work |
| 01:32.51 | joot | I am trying to install debian 7. Every time I get a complete lockup on "detect network" if I skip that step the installer lockup on "detect hardware' any help please?? |
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| 01:33.01 | mezod | i was using lighttpd but there is no lighttpd version that supports mod_rewrite for that old version |
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| 01:33.44 | themill | mezod: lenny (debian 5.0) hasn't been a supported release for over a year |
| 01:34.38 | mezod | yeah well i think i installed this machine in 2009 and have avoided any kind of sysadmin work because i hardly know anything about it |
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| 01:34.43 | mezod | not my field :p |
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| 01:36.57 | Edgardoweb_ | buenas |
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| 01:41.29 | unkmar | I'm right back where I was. |
| 01:42.13 | themill | unkmar: I've not gone anywhere. |
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| 01:46.48 | kingsley | themill: Do you happen to know why booting a .iso image on a USB via a loop device would hang after a minute or two after a completed progress bar, but booting the same .iso image directly from the hard drive proceeds with "INIT: Entering runlevel: 2", etc...? |
| 01:47.06 | kingsley | Screen shots are at http://picpaste.com/6d8f5c469e0ff3e87ead09ebc93aaec2.png |
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| 01:48.30 | rredd4 | using debian 6.0.7, flash-mozilla.so is mozilla folder, but when i go to flash sites it says it is not enabled. how to do i enable it? |
| 01:50.39 | kingsley | rredd4: Is the "flashplugin-nonfree" package installed? You can check with ... $ dpkg -l flashplugin-nonfree |
| 01:52.04 | ineedhelp | hey, i was in need of some help with my debian install |
| 01:52.15 | ineedhelp | i cant seem to get my nic to work |
| 01:52.28 | joot | I am trying to install debian 7. Every time I get a complete lockup on "detect network" if I skip that step the installer locks up on "detect hardware' any help please?? |
| 01:53.15 | rredd4 | kingsley yes it is, it works in iceweasel |
| 01:53.20 | kingsley | ineedhelp: What do you expect to happen, and what actually did? |
| 01:53.45 | ineedhelp | does anyone know about netgear gigabit nic's and if its compatible with debian? i think it uses the r8169 realtek chipset |
| 01:53.59 | Towzzer | yes |
| 01:54.03 | ineedhelp | well, it is using the r8169 module but it isnt working |
| 01:54.05 | Towzzer | but you should get the realtek driver from their website |
| 01:54.10 | abrotman | ineedhelp: might need firmware? |
| 01:54.13 | Towzzer | r8168, it replaces the r8169 |
| 01:54.46 | rredd4 | kingsley but iceweasel crashes. guess the flashplugin-nonfree is in the iceweasel folder? |
| 01:54.49 | ineedhelp | it doesnt even have a hardware address, just "ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff" |
| 01:54.58 | abrotman | ineedhelp: did oyu install the firmware |
| 01:55.05 | ineedhelp | which module the r8168 or r8169? |
| 01:55.32 | ineedhelp | install the firmware? what firmware? |
| 01:56.51 | abrotman | judd: versions realtek-firmware |
| 01:56.53 | judd | No package named 'realtek-firmware' was found in i386. |
| 01:56.56 | abrotman | ugh .. |
| 01:57.15 | abrotman | judd: versions firmware-realtek |
| 01:57.16 | judd | Package: firmware-realtek on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 0.28+squeeze1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 0.35~bpo60+1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1~bpo60+1; sid/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; experimental/non-free: 0.37 |
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| 01:58.13 | converge | Im looking for an email account that doesnt save my ip address on his logs, does someone knows one ? |
| 01:58.20 | converge | *email provider |
| 01:58.46 | truexfan81 | ok i have more info now |
| 01:59.19 | truexfan81 | following the instructions on the web it works until the point were you point it to vmlinuz, then i get file not found |
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| 02:00.14 | kingsley | rredd4: Is the problem that iceweasel crashes? |
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| 02:00.47 | rredd4 | kingsley yes that is why i was switching to chromium |
| 02:01.10 | unkmar | holy rusty metal batman. its finally running. Like really, about freaking time. |
| 02:01.12 | abrotman | converge: maybe ask #defocus .. everyone keeps logs |
| 02:01.28 | unkmar | okay, my happy booty is going home. |
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| 02:01.43 | NeverMined | happy home booty |
| 02:01.52 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | tell your happy booty I said hi |
| 02:01.54 | ineedhelp | umm , any suggestions about the netgear nic issue? |
| 02:02.00 | ineedhelp | please |
| 02:02.02 | kingsley | rredd4: Have you looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for evidence of flash crashing? |
| 02:02.09 | converge | abrotman: thanks |
| 02:02.12 | abrotman | ineedhelp: did oyu install the firmware? |
| 02:02.41 | ineedhelp | i dont know what firmware you are referring to, for the nic? and if so, is it on the netgear website? |
| 02:02.41 | rredd4 | kingsley no but i will |
| 02:03.10 | NeverMined | is alfred more the rusty metal or the metal shiner btw |
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| 02:04.18 | abrotman | NeverMined: do you need help with Debian? |
| 02:04.22 | abrotman | ineedhelp: i already pointed it out |
| 02:04.37 | ineedhelp | hey, abrotman, no i have installed the firmware. is this firmware for the nic? |
| 02:04.43 | ineedhelp | i have not |
| 02:04.55 | NeverMined | abrotman, yup, quite a bit--but we'll not get into that quite yet |
| 02:05.46 | abrotman | NeverMined: perhaps you'd prefer #debian-offtopic for your nonsense |
| 02:06.04 | NeverMined | rude to guys who know the folk giving rms his first office |
| 02:06.10 | NeverMined | hmm. okay buddy. :) |
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| 02:07.45 | ineedhelp | i have the realtek 8169 and 8168 kernel module, not firmware, but i cant install either of those moidules since i dont have the make package install |
| 02:07.56 | ineedhelp | *installed |
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| 02:11.27 | kingsley | ineedhelp: Have you looked in /var/log/messages for a clue? |
| 02:12.08 | kingsley | ineedhelp: Maybe you could search it for strings like "eth0", "realtek" and "8169". |
| 02:12.41 | ineedhelp | no, i will take a look, one sec |
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| 02:17.19 | ineedhelp | well, i see this : r8169 Gigabit Ethernet driver 2.3LK-NAPI loaded, r8169 0000:00:09.0:enabling device (0000 -> 0003), r8169 0000:00:09.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) ->IRQ 16, r8169 0000:00:09.0: (unregistered net_device): np PCI express capability |
| 02:17.32 | ineedhelp | from my /var/log/messages |
| 02:18.08 | ineedhelp | and there are two other lines mentioning 'r8169' |
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| 02:20.01 | ineedhelp | the other two lines mentioning r8169 say it cant find a mac address |
| 02:20.10 | rredd4 | kingsley don't see anything that says flash |
| 02:20.32 | ineedhelp | i guess i should blacklsit the r8169 module, and use the r8168 module instead? |
| 02:22.17 | ineedhelp | or am i completely off track? |
| 02:22.40 | kingsley | rredd4: Are there any stack traces in Xorg.0.log? |
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| 02:24.38 | traph | hi guys |
| 02:24.49 | traph | any new development for lxc in wheezy? |
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| 02:25.23 | ChibaPet | 0.8.0-rc1-8 is likely what will ship |
| 02:26.15 | rredd4 | kingsley I guess flash is working in chromium, just when i went to adobe to test it, it didn |
| 02:26.21 | rredd4 | didn't work |
| 02:26.31 | rredd4 | oops |
| 02:26.57 | rredd4 | kingsley i can play slotomania on facebook |
| 02:27.21 | rredd4 | kingsley don't know what stacks are |
| 02:27.35 | rredd4 | stack traces that is |
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| 02:28.58 | traph | ChibaPet, there are some glitches with the current templates provided. |
| 02:29.34 | ChibaPet | It would rock if you could run reportbug and send in details about the glitches. |
| 02:29.53 | ChibaPet | I don't use it myself, so I'm not in a good position to characterize issues. |
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| 02:34.37 | relipse | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:35.39 | traph | ChibaPet, will do, thanks! |
| 02:36.00 | ChibaPet | Thank you! Unless it gets reported by someone who cares about it, it might not get fixed. |
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| 02:36.55 | justmmt | hi hi! |
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| 02:40.54 | cadfael | My debian partition (including the /boot folder) is running low on space, so I plan to resize the partition. But I suspect that after the resize, the grub bootloader on the MBR will likely need to be reinstalled with grub-install. Am I right about this please? |
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| 02:43.07 | ChibaPet | Brother cadfael, I suspect it'll be okay if you're not changing where /boot is or what sort of partition it is. |
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| 02:43.33 | acu | is anyone using btrfs - I wonder how stable it is in wheezy, and wheather is tuned from newer kernels |
| 02:43.33 | dvs | cadfael: only if you move the start of the boot partition |
| 02:44.30 | ineedhelp | umm, so i figured out that my nic is running the r8169 module, which is the problem |
| 02:44.41 | justmmt | question: is that normal that, after $ dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdb, I don't find my usb in /media/ |
| 02:45.39 | abrotman | you're supposed to use cat |
| 02:46.26 | ineedhelp | how can i change modules without an internet connection? i think i should be using the r8168 module |
| 02:46.46 | cadfael | dvs: The start of the /boot will be shifted, so it seems a grub-install is needed. Thanks. |
| 02:47.02 | dvs | np |
| 02:47.09 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | wouldn't you just need to chroot and then update-grub |
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| 02:48.02 | cadfael | i have to do chroot/update-grub as well, but after the grub-install. Without a grub-install, the /boot folder cannot even be found. |
| 02:48.26 | justmmt | thanks abrotman :) |
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| 02:49.05 | truexfan81 | i almost want to try installing lilo just to see if the thing will boot |
| 02:49.50 | ChibaPet | truexfan81: Try it. Just have a rescue disk handy. |
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| 02:53.01 | traph | ChibaPet, the bug is reported, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=686747 |
| 02:53.34 | traph | I'm not so familiar with the development process. will it be fixed for the stable release of wheezy? |
| 02:53.45 | ChibaPet | traph: Very likely, yes. |
| 02:55.01 | traph | good, thanks ChibaPet |
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| 03:06.59 | ineedhelp | i have the firmware for realtek installed, what next? |
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| 03:09.19 | ineedhelp | i am having some trouble getting my nic to work with debian, its a netgear ga311 gigabit, i have the realtek firmware installed |
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| 03:09.50 | Devastator | which kernel? |
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| 03:10.15 | Cultist | !dpkg ga311 |
| 03:10.35 | ineedhelp | 2.6.32-5 |
| 03:10.46 | Cultist | no responderbot anymore :( |
| 03:10.49 | ineedhelp | squeeze |
| 03:11.00 | Devastator | try the backported kernel |
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| 03:11.30 | supaplex | dpkg: test |
| 03:11.31 | dpkg | Test failed. |
| 03:11.39 | ineedhelp | umm, how do i do that? |
| 03:11.45 | supaplex | ~test |
| 03:11.45 | apt | ACTION hunts supaplex down and lays eggs in his digestive system |
| 03:11.45 | ineedhelp | sorry, i am a noob |
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| 03:17.26 | metrix | on Debian testing I get the following error when trying to do an apt-get update: |
| 03:17.28 | metrix | W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/debian.yorku.ca_debian_dists_testing_main_i18n_Translation-en Hash Sum mismatch |
| 03:17.38 | metrix | Is this something I should report? |
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| 03:20.17 | metrix | Anyone? :/ I'm currently not able to upgrade to test new packages |
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| 03:29.30 | rryoumaa | if it looks like an application is not available in debian on packages.debian.org, does that mean it's not really being considered for same, or is there another search engine for that? (the "got your back" package.) and if not, do you then make your own .deb from the source? |
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| 03:31.09 | rryoumaa | i note http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages but there is no search engine? |
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| 03:31.35 | rryoumaa | oh never mind i guess there is one |
| 03:31.35 | ineedhelp | can anyone please help me, i am having trouble getting my nic working with the latest stable debian. |
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| 03:33.32 | ineedhelp | the nic is a netgear gigabit, ga311 with the r8169 chipset. i have installed the realtek firmware, but still nothing |
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| 03:33.41 | ineedhelp | it doesnt even have a hardware address |
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| 03:42.51 | FFForever | Good evening. Is there any known issues on wheezy w/ KVM virt with reguards to networking? I can't seem to get two network interfaces working, but if I remove one all of my connections work flawlessly. |
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| 03:44.34 | rsingh | soup guys, how's everyone tonight |
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| 03:44.53 | FFForever | not bad, and yourself? |
| 03:45.05 | rsingh | Pretty good |
| 03:45.41 | rsingh | Pretty quiet for ~3000 people, wow |
| 03:45.49 | rsingh | Errr ~1300 |
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| 03:47.59 | FFForever | rsingh, Considering it's nearly 9pm on the west coast I'm pretty sure most people are at their day job or in bed. |
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| 03:50.32 | rsingh | FFForever: True |
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| 03:59.29 | acu | why can't I go more than 500 lines back in history ? how can I make it see ? |
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| 03:59.39 | acu | I use wheezy |
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| 03:59.44 | acu | cli bash |
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| 04:00.27 | FFForever | Does the Apache build in the repos support SNI? |
| 04:00.33 | FFForever | (wheezy) |
| 04:01.37 | emss | acu inscrease your history size |
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| 04:01.48 | emss | acu increase* :) |
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| 04:01.56 | acu | emss: how should I do that |
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| 04:02.30 | emss | HISTSIZE=1000 |
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| 04:02.50 | emss | acu `man bash' then type /HISTSIZE |
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| 04:04.18 | emss | acu you can add that to ~/.bashrc and also export it for your current shell `export HISTSIZE=1000' |
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| 04:05.15 | somiaj | FFForever: is there a way to check that with out looking at the build flags? You could look at the source package if your eally have to. |
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| 04:06.20 | acu | emss: thanks I just did it, but now I am too late |
| 04:06.27 | acu | had a lot of stuff is not comming back |
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| 04:06.41 | FFForever | somiaj, FYI: I just got it working.. I forgot to add port 443 as a vhost port. |
| 04:06.54 | themill | acu: is it the shell history or your terminal history you're looking at? |
| 04:08.14 | acu | I am connecting through ssh to another machine - so I have just change the HISTSIZE to 1000 but it was 500 - so I think this is shell history |
| 04:08.21 | rryoumaa | acu: there are also things like script(1) |
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| 04:08.44 | emss | acu well for the future you can increase your HISTSIZE, also your terminals scroll buffer, and you can also log your console/terminal session with `script' |
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| 04:10.00 | mordocai | Tried this in httpd, hopefully someone here can help: Hello, I'm trying to setup squirrelmail on debian stable and have encountered an apache config error. None of the google search results for this have worked, please see relevant info here: http://dpaste.com/1062841/. Any ideas? Note: Setting options to +Indexes makes error go away but just lists directory contents, nothing else has seemed to have any effect |
| 04:10.13 | acu | thanks, though If I look at it is strange, I should have had ./install.sh whatever and it is not there |
| 04:10.19 | emss | acu well i don't know about this, but maybe ssh has a log somewhere? |
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| 04:17.49 | emss | mordocai did you look at the squirrelmail documentation? no idea but i think you need to allow apache to interpret php files in the config and or tell php in its config what/where it can interpret |
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| 04:19.37 | mordocai | emss: yeah, I got my config from the squirrelmail docs :(. |
| 04:20.24 | emss | mordocai did you do anything to phps configuration files? |
| 04:20.40 | emss | think you might need to, not sure |
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| 04:21.41 | mordocai | emss, I did not. Not sure what i'd need to do, i'll try to find out |
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| 04:24.06 | angs | do the commands on /etc/rc.local executed as root? |
| 04:24.28 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | yes |
| 04:24.47 | angs | thank you |
| 04:25.47 | mordocai | emss, Okay, so for some reason if I make the alias /squirrel instead of / (and go to /squirrel) then it works. |
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| 04:27.20 | angs | I would like to execute two commands, but I want the second command to be executed after 10 sec later . how can I do that? |
| 04:27.27 | angs | on /etc/rc.local ? |
| 04:28.08 | mordocai | emss, Bleh, figured it out. I can't use alias to set something to / have to use DocumentRoot. DUH! |
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| 04:28.26 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | { sleep 10 && second command & } |
| 04:28.27 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | maybe |
| 04:28.34 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | er |
| 04:28.43 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | { first command && sleep 10 && second command & } |
| 04:29.05 | angs | what is the purpose of the last & ? |
| 04:29.22 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | when you use {} it has to end with a ; or a & |
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| 04:29.41 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | the & tells it to fork off in the background so the rest of the script can run |
| 04:30.08 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | or else you'll have to wait an extra 10 seconds for your boot to "complete" |
| 04:31.02 | angs | thank you JWGUBNYMGBQWOI. |
| 04:31.46 | angs | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:31.58 | angs | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:32.05 | angs | ./server is a program that I want to run |
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| 04:32.31 | angs | oj I forgot to add sleep |
| 04:32.38 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | the path on the second one looks wrong too |
| 04:32.59 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | unless you do have a "." directory in /home |
| 04:33.23 | angs | that executable file is under /home directory |
| 04:33.24 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | (except you can't do that) |
| 04:33.35 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | angs: /home/server |
| 04:33.59 | angs | won't it take it as a directory? |
| 04:34.03 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | "." as a path just means "the current directory" |
| 04:34.30 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | { wpa_supplicant -B -Dnl80211 -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf && sleep 10 && /home/server & } |
| 04:34.39 | angs | I have a simple program that I build by gcc server.c -o server . I run it as ./server |
| 04:34.42 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | that should probably work |
| 04:35.04 | angs | I will try it, thanks a lot JWGUBNYMGBQWOI |
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| 04:35.17 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | angs: yes, "." means the current directory; ./server is running the "server" binary in the current directory (./) |
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| 04:35.53 | Strum__ | hello\ |
| 04:35.58 | angs | thanks a lot |
| 04:36.22 | Strum__ | can someone please help me with setting up sshd |
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| 04:37.02 | Strum__ | i have installed it but the sshd won't start |
| 04:37.22 | hizibiz | any specific error messg ? |
| 04:37.37 | Strum__ | where would i find the error message? |
| 04:37.51 | Blue1 | I have a question about Wheezy. I am trying to add desktop icons. so I copied it from /usr/share/applications/whatever.desktop ~/Desktp but the icon does NOT appear on the desktop. What am I doing wrong? |
| 04:38.03 | Blue1 | ~/Desktop |
| 04:38.03 | apt | i heard /desktop is a folder (under KDE 3.2 RC1 that is) |
| 04:38.24 | Blue1 | well desktop |
| 04:38.42 | hizibiz | Strum__: you should have openssh-server |
| 04:38.49 | Strum__ | yeah |
| 04:39.01 | Strum__ | i installed open ssh server |
| 04:39.11 | hizibiz | ok |
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| 04:39.20 | Strum__ | i followed this |
| 04:39.32 | Strum__ | but the netstat returns nothing |
| 04:39.38 | angs | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI, I want to run wpa_supplicant command and the program that I prepared whenever my pc is powered. does it matter if I manage it by using /etc/rc.local or /etc/init? which one would be a better usage? |
| 04:39.55 | Strum__ | and when i try check it's status it sasy pid not found |
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| 04:40.13 | Strum__ | http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-linux-install-openssh-sshd-server/ |
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| 04:40.33 | Strum__ | i am using the standard live image |
| 04:40.34 | somiaj | angs: why don't you just run it when the network card is brought up and down with /etc/network/interfaces (or I'd think nm would do it too) |
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| 04:40.41 | angs | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI: would you suggest me to use /etc/rc.local or the way it is used on http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7221757/run-automatically-program-on-startup-under-linux-ubuntu |
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| 04:40.49 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | /etc/rc.local is usually used for custom/"extra" things, where as /etc/init.d/ is usually used for daemons that are installed, so /etc/rc.local would probably be the correct one to use |
| 04:41.06 | slopjong | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI, I think the & must be after } and not before { echo "first" && sleep 5 && echo "second" } & |
| 04:41.19 | angs | somiaj, I allready defined wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf on /etc/network/interfaces but it does not start the wpa_supplicant, I could not understand why |
| 04:41.40 | somiaj | angs: would a preup script work |
| 04:41.51 | somiaj | angs: to manually run it from the interfaces file? |
| 04:42.00 | Strum__ | where is the log for sshd? |
| 04:42.12 | somiaj | Strum__: /var/log/auth.log shows the login attempts from ssd |
| 04:42.15 | Strum__ | or whatever log it's error message might be in |
| 04:42.15 | Buttons840 | any idea why all the folders in my home directory belong to my user and the sudo group -- should they also belong to my group? |
| 04:42.28 | Strum__ | the deamon isn;t running |
| 04:42.30 | hizibiz | Strum__: major parameters in /etc/sshd_config would be Port, ListenAddress |
| 04:42.35 | Strum__ | so there will no login attempts logged |
| 04:42.39 | Strum__ | deer |
| 04:42.48 | Strum__ | yeah i have done that |
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| 04:43.11 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | slopjong: the & before the } does that |
| 04:43.17 | Strum__ | the deamon wouldn't start with the defualt config nor with the edited config |
| 04:43.26 | somiaj | Buttons840: that does seems strange, you should look at your default group id |
| 04:43.54 | Strum__ | can i get an answer to my question please |
| 04:43.57 | angs | somiaj, if I run wpa_supplicant manually it works fine. here is my /etc/network/interfaces http://pastebin.com/qCe4iZ4b what else do I need to add there? |
| 04:44.06 | Buttons840 | somiaj: yeah, I did get that messed up I think; but how did folders like "Downloads" which were created automatically during install end up belonging to sudo group |
| 04:44.09 | Buttons840 | ? |
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| 04:44.17 | Strum__ | where is the log that sshd would write it's fail message to? |
| 04:44.17 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | slopjong: if you run something like { echo 1 && sleep 5 && echo 2 && sleep 5 && echo 3 & } in a bash shell, you can press enter immediately after you execute it, and the line continues to run in the background |
| 04:44.26 | Strum__ | for the 3rd time |
| 04:44.30 | somiaj | angs: so my suggestion would be have a 'pre-up /path/to/script' and it will run that script before it attempts to bring wlan0 up |
| 04:44.36 | slopjong | in zsh it seems to block |
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| 04:44.43 | Strum__ | i don't need to be told what i already know , or to do irrelevent things |
| 04:44.51 | Strum__ | i just want a simple answer to a simle question |
| 04:45.26 | slopjong | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI, you're right, in bash one can continue |
| 04:45.48 | slopjong | one more incompatibility I found :) |
| 04:46.09 | somiaj | angs: I found a form that has the same suggestion I gave you |
| 04:46.20 | Strum__ | i can't for the life of me work out why a linux distro would not have sshd installed and configured by default |
| 04:46.30 | somiaj | angs: 'pre-up wpa_supplicant -Bw -Dwext -ieth0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf' was there example, and then have a 'post-down killall -q wpa_supplicant' |
| 04:46.39 | Strum__ | i have never had as much trouble gettign it goign with any other distro |
| 04:47.13 | angs | somiaj, do I need to write it into /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 04:47.24 | somiaj | angs: correct |
| 04:47.27 | Buttons840 | somiaj: i did an ID on myself and I don't even belong to my own group? |
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| 04:47.37 | Strum__ | and nobody in the debian user community seemks to want to answer a stright question with a stright answer |
| 04:47.45 | bambanx | i buyed a vps on debian , anyone can light me about how create my emails, i binded my domain (sorry for my bad english) |
| 04:48.06 | somiaj | Buttons840: grep username /etc/passwd -- you should see username:x:userID:groupID:blahblah |
| 04:48.13 | somiaj | Buttons840: that is where I would ook, though there are other tools |
| 04:48.38 | somiaj | bambanx: do you mean create a mail server, or just send mails out? |
| 04:48.42 | angs | thank you somiaj |
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| 04:49.20 | somiaj | angs: now it is attached to the interface so if other things bring it down/back up it is started again |
| 04:49.25 | Buttons840 | somiaj: so to fix: I'll first get my own group sorted out and make sure i have myself as the primary group, then I'll recursivly set everything in my home directory to belong to my group, and then I'll look for any other files on the system that belong to me and set those to also belong to my group where it makes sense? what do you think? |
| 04:49.29 | bambanx | somiaj, thanks for ur answer , i am not sure i come from shared hosting, i need create the email for use later on outlook or thunderbird, like when u create on shared hosting |
| 04:49.32 | Strum__ | ok i have another simple stright questoin that i bet i can't get an answer to |
| 04:49.43 | bambanx | somiaj, is like email server? |
| 04:49.54 | Strum__ | what is the defualt password for the live image version? |
| 04:50.11 | somiaj | bambanx: if you want to recive emails yes you need to configure an email server (I'm unsure what tools the vps you have gave you for this) |
| 04:50.19 | somiaj | Strum__: I belive it is blank |
| 04:50.38 | somiaj | Strum__: actually I think it just gives you full sudo privlages, and you can set passwords from there if you want |
| 04:50.44 | Strum__ | thank you somiaj |
| 04:50.55 | bambanx | somiaj, i can install what i want on the vps |
| 04:51.22 | bambanx | somiaj, can u recommend me a good email server? for search on google more info? |
| 04:51.29 | somiaj | bambanx: well debian itself gives you various choices in mail servers, and you will have to then configure them |
| 04:51.30 | Strum__ | nope |
| 04:51.36 | Strum__ | blank password doesn't work |
| 04:51.43 | somiaj | bambanx: debians default is exim, I like postfix myself |
| 04:52.12 | hizibiz | Strum__: on the sshd |
| 04:52.22 | hizibiz | # forget it if we're trying to start, and /etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run exists |
| 04:52.30 | hizibiz | this is from the initd script |
| 04:52.42 | bambanx | somiaj, u know what is used on shared hostings? |
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| 04:52.47 | somiaj | Strum__: looks like there are some various versions. Some have 'root' and '', you can try 'debian'/'debia', 'live'/'live' |
| 04:52.51 | bambanx | somiaj, like in cpanel |
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| 04:53.12 | Strum__ | ok great thank you somiaj |
| 04:53.17 | somiaj | bambanx: I'm not that familar with cpanel nor shard hosting. My limited experience is each one is slightly different in their choices. |
| 04:53.18 | Strum__ | i will try those |
| 04:53.29 | bambanx | k somiaj |
| 04:53.32 | somiaj | Strum__: you shoudln't need a password, that is what is strange to me. Where are you at that is asking for apssword. |
| 04:53.36 | bambanx | thanks men somiaj |
| 04:53.48 | Strum__ | if oyu want to login as root |
| 04:53.52 | Leoneof | hi, why there are no hyperestraier in Wheezy? |
| 04:53.53 | Strum__ | you need a password |
| 04:54.06 | somiaj | Strum__: sudo su - // you have full sudo privlages with the default user |
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| 04:54.26 | somiaj | or just run the commands you want to run as root with sudo |
| 04:54.35 | Strum__ | but you have to type SUDO everytime |
| 04:54.37 | Strum__ | sudo |
| 04:54.44 | somiaj | then 'sudo su -' and become root |
| 04:54.46 | Strum__ | and you can su without a password |
| 04:54.52 | Strum__ | can't |
| 04:55.07 | Strum__ | i still don't like not knowing and being able to change the root password |
| 04:55.33 | somiaj | do you have a user that has full sudo privlages? |
| 04:55.49 | somiaj | (I belive this is default on the live images -- thought I admit I haven't used one in a while) |
| 04:55.53 | Strum__ | i just botted up a live image |
| 04:55.54 | Strum__ | so no |
| 04:55.59 | Strum__ | booted |
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| 04:56.07 | Strum__ | i want to get ssh going so i can shell in |
| 04:56.12 | Strum__ | before i do anything else |
| 04:56.37 | Strum__ | and it is such a pita that i am abnout to drop debian forever and go back to slackware |
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| 04:59.14 | jalalsfs | I use 'aptitude' so how can i do like that "apt-get install -f" in 'aptitude'? |
| 04:59.38 | somiaj | jalalsfs: aptitude -f install (many commands are the same, some aren't) |
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| 04:59.41 | Strum__ | none of those passwords work |
| 05:00.02 | truexfan81 | ok debian fixed, now new problem, the new wheezy install has no net connection, its connected with ethernet |
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| 05:00.23 | jalalsfs | somiaj, Okay, thank you so much. |
| 05:00.32 | truexfan81 | what does the netinstall come with that i can use to diagnose the problem? |
| 05:00.44 | truexfan81 | there is no ifconfig or ipconfig |
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| 05:01.53 | truexfan81 | tried ifup eth0 says command not found |
| 05:02.00 | jalalsfs | somiaj, But I cannot find one like that in aptitude "apt-cache search" it's a very good command, but when I use 'aptitude search' it's not the same. |
| 05:02.18 | somiaj | jalalsfs: aptitude search has way more power because of search flags |
| 05:02.57 | Strum__ | so no answer to either of my simple questions |
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| 05:03.02 | Strum__ | ? |
| 05:03.04 | Strum__ | anybody |
| 05:03.05 | somiaj | Strum__: I just booted up into an lxde live image, and 'sudo su -' gave me full root privlages |
| 05:03.17 | Strum__ | yes but that doesn't answer my question |
| 05:03.20 | somiaj | Strum__: so what live image do you have. your default user has full sudo privalges which you can use to become root and change passwords |
| 05:03.27 | Strum__ | what is the default root password |
| 05:04.06 | Strum__ | and where does sshd sedn it's log messages when it tries to start? |
| 05:04.58 | somiaj | Strum__: the man page says check the system log |
| 05:05.06 | hizibiz | Apr 18 10:34:46 hizlap sshd[7029]: Received signal 15; terminating. |
| 05:05.07 | hizibiz | Apr 18 10:34:46 hizlap sshd[8009]: Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 22. |
| 05:05.07 | hizibiz | Apr 18 10:34:46 hizlap sshd[8009]: Server listening on :: port 22. |
| 05:05.24 | hizibiz | i just tail -f auth.log and restarted the deamon |
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| 05:05.45 | hizibiz | Strum__: ^ |
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| 05:06.24 | truexfan81 | hmm i guess it needs some 3com firmware? hard to install without a connection |
| 05:06.42 | jalalsfs | somiaj, Should I use one of them 'apt-get' or 'aptitude'? not sometimes that or this? |
| 05:07.13 | somiaj | truexfan81: there are unoffical firmware installer images, but I just copy it over on a usb stick |
| 05:07.19 | Strum__ | "the system log" is not a unix path name |
| 05:07.48 | Strum__ | where does it put it's log messages please as in /var/log/messages |
| 05:07.51 | hizibiz | /var/log/auth.log |
| 05:07.55 | Strum__ | ok |
| 05:08.05 | Strum__ | and that's the sytem log? |
| 05:08.07 | somiaj | jalalsfs: /msg dpkg why apt-get, /msg dpkg why aptitude, for most things it is a matter of taste. During dist-upgrades (like squeeze->wheezy) one is usually prefered over the other. Some upgrades apt-get is prefered, others aptitude was |
| 05:08.11 | Strum__ | system |
| 05:08.34 | hizibiz | :) |
| 05:08.59 | hizibiz | if a deamon is using the syslog |
| 05:09.44 | Strum__ | there is no auth.log in /var/log |
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| 05:10.13 | jalalsfs | somiaj, Thank you so much. |
| 05:10.50 | Strum__ | i mean wtf, doesn't anyone ever ssh into debian boxes or something?, is it only ever used as a fail desktop? |
| 05:11.16 | somiaj | jalalsfs: so yea only during dist-upgrades, make sure you read the release notes for the prefered one. |
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| 05:11.40 | Strum__ | so which log is the system log |
| 05:11.42 | somiaj | Strum__: you are just noise. Debian works just fine and so does ssh. I do not know why you are having so much trouble. |
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| 05:11.56 | Strum__ | oh really |
| 05:12.00 | jalalsfs | somiaj, I use testing version. |
| 05:12.01 | Strum__ | well thanks for that |
| 05:12.02 | somiaj | Strum__: what have you done, how did you start your ssh server? |
| 05:12.08 | Strum__ | but can you answer a simple question |
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| 05:12.25 | Strum__ | which log do i look in to find the error message about why sshd won't start? |
| 05:12.41 | Strum__ | what's the path to it? |
| 05:12.41 | Strum__ | please |
| 05:12.45 | Strum__ | i seems such a small thing |
| 05:13.11 | supaplex | Strum__: there's a command called, which. type which sshd |
| 05:13.55 | hizibiz | Strum__: I have pasted you the sshd restart event messgs from my log |
| 05:14.05 | hizibiz | here , pls scroll up |
| 05:14.05 | somiaj | Strum__: how about you answer my simpler question. What command did you use to launch the ssh server? |
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| 05:14.09 | Strum__ | but you haven't answered my question |
| 05:14.21 | hizibiz | /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
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| 05:15.03 | somiaj | Strum__: /var/log/auth.log |
| 05:15.16 | Strum__ | the file auth.log does not exist |
| 05:15.24 | Strum__ | as i have told you already |
| 05:15.40 | Strum__ | and you can't restart something that isn't running |
| 05:15.44 | somiaj | what command did you type to run the ssh server. |
| 05:16.16 | supaplex | Strum__: wow, like I even want to help. ps, restart implies stop, start. good luck with that ego there. |
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| 05:17.20 | Strum__ | pardon, the deamon won't start, how can you restart it if it isn't running? |
| 05:17.33 | Strum__ | >> /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 05:17.37 | Strum__ | is what i tried |
| 05:17.42 | Strum__ | >> /etc/init.d/ssh status |
| 05:17.47 | Strum__ | and i said all this when i came in |
| 05:18.31 | Strum__ | how can there be an auth.log for a process that hasn't run yet |
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| 05:19.23 | Strum__ | which file is the system log in which i might find the fialure to start message the sshd give when i try to start it |
| 05:20.01 | hizibiz | why don't you try /usr/sbin/ssh by hand |
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| 05:21.37 | Strum__ | by hand? |
| 05:21.43 | Strum__ | i want the server not the client thank you |
| 05:22.07 | hizibiz | add a d man |
| 05:22.35 | hizibiz | you are claiming to be pro :) |
| 05:23.35 | Strum__ | no i'm not |
| 05:23.42 | Strum__ | i never claimed anything |
| 05:23.52 | Strum__ | only that i am new to debian |
| 05:24.03 | hizibiz | so sudo /usr/sbin/sshd |
| 05:26.04 | Strum__ | that works |
| 05:26.06 | Strum__ | thank you |
| 05:26.26 | Strum__ | now why would that work but not the script? |
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| 05:27.01 | Strum__ | hooray |
| 05:27.01 | Strum__ | i can shell in |
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| 05:27.14 | Strum__ | that makes things easier |
| 05:27.20 | hizibiz | the script has multiple checks |
| 05:27.28 | hizibiz | check those cases |
| 05:27.54 | Strum__ | now something is not going to shut it down now it's running is it? |
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| 05:29.53 | hizibiz | normally should not |
| 05:30.02 | Strum__ | that will be in the sshd script in init.d? |
| 05:30.20 | hizibiz | ssh script in /etc/init.d/ |
| 05:30.25 | Strum__ | ok |
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| 05:34.16 | bambanx | guys can recommend me a good book for persons who move from shared hosting to vps? what type of book should be ? like server admin centos book? |
| 05:36.11 | truexfan81 | ok i have exceeded my linux knowledge |
| 05:36.31 | truexfan81 | ok grabbed the firmware-linux-nonfree deb package for wheezy, copied it to a usb |
| 05:36.38 | truexfan81 | plugged the usb into the machine |
| 05:36.56 | truexfan81 | can't mount it because idk what device its listed as |
| 05:37.06 | truexfan81 | hdx sdx, etc |
| 05:37.21 | truexfan81 | cli only install |
| 05:38.21 | hizibiz | bambanx what is vps, virtual private server , like some virutualization ? |
| 05:38.56 | bambanx | i am not sure is from digitalocean vps https://www.digitalocean.com |
| 05:39.26 | bambanx | my shared hosting with cpanel is limited for install what i wanna, so i m trying to move into a vps |
| 05:39.30 | berzerka | truexfan81, after you plug in the stick, do a 'dmesg | tail'. that should show you the device and partition names of the plugged device. |
| 05:39.56 | bambanx | but i have clients with webpages on my shared hosting so i wanna mount like the similar of a cpanel with emails , ftp... |
| 05:40.25 | truexfan81 | oh ty |
| 05:40.52 | berzerka | yw |
| 05:41.06 | truexfan81 | never would've thought of that |
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| 05:44.24 | hizibiz | bambanx sorry i haven't worked in that space |
| 05:44.50 | bambanx | np bro hizibiz |
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| 05:48.41 | bambanx | any web panel recommended? (free) ispconfig, openvz ... ? |
| 05:49.17 | themill | bambanx: most people here will use an ssh client and a text editor as their "panel". |
| 05:49.32 | bambanx | lol |
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| 05:50.49 | bambanx | yeah maybe is more easy |
| 05:51.05 | bambanx | i just manage a few domains ftps with its domains |
| 05:51.10 | truexfan81 | ok which firmware package would contain 3com firmware? i tried non-free, that wasn't it |
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| 05:52.45 | hizibiz | an apt-cache search 3com shows only 2 |
| 05:53.01 | hizibiz | firmware-linux-free and firmware-linux-nonfree |
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| 05:53.16 | cirrus] | hi |
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| 05:54.09 | hizibiz | hello cirrus |
| 05:54.21 | cirrus] | how can I erase first and last 4 GB from hard drive with dd? dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda/ <and what to put behind it?> |
| 05:54.35 | truexfan81 | i hope i don't end up having to put slowbuntu back on the thing just to use my nic omg |
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| 05:55.54 | hizibiz | that would be tricky math not sure if anyone would like to do that :) |
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| 05:56.28 | cirrus] | hizibiz, so it will be better to erase whole drive? |
| 05:56.59 | hizibiz | if you are changing the job yes :) |
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| 05:58.17 | cirrus] | :D ok |
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| 06:00.27 | cirrus] | hizibiz, I just have to destroy allocation table to fix allocation table ;) |
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| 06:02.18 | truexfan81 | hizibiz: that wasn't it either |
| 06:02.43 | truexfan81 | i would really like to have debian on that thing, but a server without network access is rather useless |
| 06:03.50 | zykotick9 | truexfan81: what's the pciid of the device? "lspci -nn" should show you, it looks like [8086:4222] |
| 06:04.07 | truexfan81 | one min |
| 06:05.44 | truexfan81 | 10b7:9055 |
| 06:05.50 | zykotick9 | ,pciid 10b7:9055 |
| 06:05.50 | judd | [10b7:9055] is '3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone]' from '3Com Corporation' with kernel module '3c59x' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10b7:9055 |
| 06:06.10 | truexfan81 | so it is supported by squeeze |
| 06:06.14 | truexfan81 | but i have wheezy |
| 06:06.52 | rozie | truexfan81: you have problem with installer or installed system? |
| 06:07.06 | truexfan81 | rozie: installed system |
| 06:07.10 | zykotick9 | ,pciid 10b7:9055 --release wheezy |
| 06:07.11 | judd | [10b7:9055] is '3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone]' from '3Com Corporation' with kernel module '3c59x' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10b7:9055 |
| 06:07.18 | truexfan81 | device worked just fine with the installer |
| 06:07.34 | zykotick9 | truexfan81: does "lsmod" show 3c59x? |
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| 06:07.49 | truexfan81 | lemme check |
| 06:08.10 | rozie | do you have firmware-linux-free and -nonfree installed? |
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| 06:08.43 | truexfan81 | zykotick9: yes it does, rozie yes i do |
| 06:08.46 | rozie | also: check dmesg |
| 06:09.18 | zykotick9 | truexfan81: does "ifconfig -a" show it? |
| 06:09.57 | truexfan81 | zykotick9: netinstall does not have ifconfig by default |
| 06:10.19 | berzerka | truexfan81, i think you should put the tarball (http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-nonfree_0.36+wheezy.1.tar.gz) on the removable media, not the .deb package. you can also just pick the required 3com/3C359.bin and copy it to /lib/firmware. |
| 06:10.24 | zykotick9 | truexfan81: oh, sorry. didn't realize you haven't installed. well, good luck. |
| 06:10.25 | truexfan81 | rozie: dmesg has too much info to fit on the screen so idk if the info you need is there or not |
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| 06:10.49 | berzerka | truexfan81, have a look at 'less'. dmesg | less. |
| 06:11.06 | truexfan81 | zykotick9: i can probably install it the same way i got the firmware, assuming it doesn't have a lot of deps |
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| 06:11.38 | berzerka | truexfan81, also, have a look here: http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware |
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| 06:12.05 | CarlFK | I need to get 1 file out of a .deb - I don't mind expanding the whole thing into /tmp... isn't it a tar.gz or something ? |
| 06:12.35 | truexfan81 | yep zykotick9 i can get ifconfig from here http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/net-tools |
| 06:12.48 | rozie | CarlFK: just use mc |
| 06:13.09 | zykotick9 | truexfan81: you don't need ifconfig! if you're on netinst, i was just curious. |
| 06:13.20 | truexfan81 | ok what do i need then? |
| 06:14.35 | berzerka | truexfan81, see above. |
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| 06:15.59 | truexfan81 | o so net-tools was already installed, so why does it say ifconfig command not found? |
| 06:16.01 | CarlFK | rozie: this? mc - Visual shell for Unix-like systems. |
| 06:16.55 | zykotick9 | truexfan81: /sbin/ifconfig work? |
| 06:17.53 | CarlFK | rozie: yes... but.. um.. reading man... |
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| 06:19.14 | truexfan81 | zykotick9: yes that works, only shows lo |
| 06:19.29 | zykotick9 | truexfan81: did you use the -a? |
| 06:19.48 | truexfan81 | lol no brb |
| 06:20.22 | berzerka | CarlFK, dpkg-deb -x |
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| 06:21.52 | truexfan81 | zykotick9: that works, but most of the info for eth0 scrolls off the screen, any way to narrow it down? |
| 06:22.07 | CarlFK | berzerka: thanks.. I figured there was something like that. rozie, mc is nifty though |
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| 06:22.33 | zykotick9 | truexfan81: are you familiar with using more/less? |
| 06:22.43 | truexfan81 | not really lol |
| 06:22.47 | truexfan81 | brb |
| 06:23.30 | zykotick9 | truexfan81: so "/sbin/ifconfig -a | less" should show a page at a time (and you can go up as well, a feature more lacks) |
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| 06:27.06 | zykotick9 | truexfan81: if you see eth0 in ifconfig's output, i believe you only need to configure it! /etc/network/interfaces is the general network config file. |
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| 06:32.05 | truexfan81 | zykotick9: when i do /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up, and then /sbin/ifconfig eth0 i see 26rx packets and 16tx packets |
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| 06:32.23 | truexfan81 | still no connectivity tho |
| 06:33.30 | zykotick9 | truexfan81: how is it configured in interfaces? do you have dhcp on your network (if so, try "dhclient eth0")? |
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| 06:36.17 | ChrisH | truexfan81: did you check dmesg for lines like firmware missing? |
| 06:37.08 | truexfan81 | zykotick9: dhclient eth0 as command or in the interfaces file? |
| 06:37.35 | zykotick9 | truexfan81: it's a command, in /sbin again |
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| 06:39.16 | truexfan81 | that worked |
| 06:39.22 | truexfan81 | apt-get update in progress |
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| 06:39.33 | truexfan81 | zykotick9: now how do i make that stick |
| 06:39.47 | zykotick9 | truexfan81: SO, you need to add dhcp to your interface file for eth0 |
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| 06:41.08 | truexfan81 | zykotick9: auto eth0 dhcp ? |
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| 06:41.24 | truexfan81 | oh now that i can ssh in i can do this quicker |
| 06:42.18 | zykotick9 | truexfan81: almost, "auto eth0" as one line, and "iface eth0 inet dhcp" as another |
| 06:42.56 | truexfan81 | and now reboot to test? |
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| 06:43.05 | zykotick9 | sure?! |
| 06:43.28 | truexfan81 | one sec, i wanna add my rsa key so i can ssh in without having to type my pass |
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| 06:44.16 | truexfan81 | almost there |
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| 06:45.12 | truexfan81 | ok got it |
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| 06:45.15 | truexfan81 | rebooting now |
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| 06:47.15 | truexfan81 | zykotick9: success |
| 06:47.27 | truexfan81 | zykotick9: i can't thank you enough man |
| 06:47.42 | zykotick9 | truexfan81: nice! you're welcome :) |
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| 06:52.23 | zykotick9 | truexfan81: i like your "random quote" from yesterday http://apt.rikers.org/stats/debian.html.gz |
| 06:52.54 | truexfan81 | ? |
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| 06:55.03 | truexfan81 | oh lol |
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| 06:57.22 | truexfan81 | zykotick9: i may be #5, but i'm mentioned in #1 :p |
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| 07:00.01 | dpkg | <WiFiTux> Is there a way I could make Doom 3 run faster? I mean, can I run it in a tty, or somewhere else? |
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| 07:01.53 | zykotick9 | doom 1&2, via prboom, can run in framebuffer ;) |
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| 07:04.37 | truexfan81 | ley sigh |
| 07:04.43 | truexfan81 | i just can't win today |
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| 07:05.21 | truexfan81 | i successfully setup a samba share, but it will not accept my credentials |
| 07:05.29 | truexfan81 | smh |
| 07:05.55 | ChrisH | truexfan81: smbpasswd -a USERNAME ; smbpasswd -e USERNAME done? |
| 07:06.13 | truexfan81 | ChrisH: i'm trying to connect to it from a windows7 machine |
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| 07:06.34 | truexfan81 | i have the same username/pass on both machines |
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| 07:07.47 | ChrisH | truexfan81: I connect from Win7 and Win8 to my samba. But you need to add and enable (-a and -e) the user/pw on the serverside |
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| 07:08.25 | truexfan81 | ah ok, didn't have to do that when i had newbuntu on the thing, thanks i'll do that |
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| 07:09.37 | truexfan81 | ChrisH: that got it |
| 07:09.39 | truexfan81 | thanks |
| 07:10.15 | truexfan81 | ok on to the next problem |
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| 07:10.30 | truexfan81 | i'll hollar if i can't fix it on my own lol |
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| 07:29.26 | Streusel | Hi, I got a memory issue, and I was wondering if "sync" then "echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches" would influence my current transfers. |
| 07:29.58 | tux_ | hi |
| 07:29.58 | truexfan81 | Streusel: i know the feeling, i have memory issues as well, thats why i can't remember how to do anything lol |
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| 07:30.05 | Streusel | >< |
| 07:30.17 | Streusel | :/ |
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| 07:30.45 | truexfan81 | lets see if that makes the quote list |
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| 07:31.24 | Streusel | hmm |
| 07:31.27 | Streusel | shrugs |
| 07:31.31 | Streusel | at least I got free memory again |
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| 07:35.46 | truexfan81 | yay my apache server is back up and running :) |
| 07:36.15 | Streusel | and then darkleech came in and kicked you out |
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| 07:44.22 | jazzdle | Hello, guys. I am trying to run Xorg -configure but receive segmentation fault error exactly as reported here -> bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=670573 but there aren't any suggestions what to do. Any ideas what to do? |
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| 07:49.10 | jpw | jazzdle: have you an existing xorg.conf? |
| 07:49.17 | jazzdle | nope |
| 07:49.32 | jpw | jazzdle: then i'm stumped. |
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| 07:51.56 | jazzdle | that's why I would like to generate one. In System->Preferences->Monitors my refresh rate is set to "0" and because I have problem with monitor/fonts appereance that can be one of the reasons. |
| 07:52.03 | Streusel | when somebody says create a report with at least 1000 packets, that means 1000 intervals or packet size x*intervals = 1000? |
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| 08:04.39 | babilen | dpkg: tell jazzdle -about empty xorg.conf |
| 08:04.49 | babilen | dpkg: tell jazzdle -about xorg.conf.d |
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| 08:05.30 | babilen | dpkg: tell jazzdle -about xorg config squeeze |
| 08:06.25 | babilen | jazzdle: I would recommend to only use whatever section is necessary and not more in a configuration file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ -- See "man 5 xorg.conf" for documentation about the various sections and settings. |
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| 08:12.45 | littlebit | hello people, i get a warning message when trying to install a package telling me that the package could not be authenticated. Searching with google I tried this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7001019#7001019 |
| 08:12.45 | littlebit | now, apt is apparently remove. Can someone help me out? |
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| 08:14.33 | babilen | littlebit: Don't remove apt ;) |
| 08:14.45 | babilen | dpkg: tell littlebit -about bat |
| 08:14.51 | babilen | but I have to run now |
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| 08:19.48 | smz | hello |
| 08:19.53 | niklaswe | hello.. |
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| 08:20.24 | smz | hello |
| 08:20.43 | smz | in netstat -tupn a have syn-sent on port 445 how to chceck what a proccess sent a package on this port in netstat i have a "-" on pid column |
| 08:21.20 | b0lt | smz: be root |
| 08:21.26 | smz | yes |
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| 08:26.24 | smz | it is possible check what a process send this package |
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| 08:34.28 | HadoBrando | hello everyone |
| 08:34.46 | HadoBrando | can i ask questions here regarding a software that is not in the default repository of debian? its mysecureshell |
| 08:35.00 | HadoBrando | i installed it from their deb repository |
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| 08:36.22 | HadoBrando | i can reproduce that the process jumps to 100% and stays there, i would like to find out why ;( |
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| 08:40.12 | ChrisH | HadoBrando: run strae -p $PID and if nothing happens, the process loops in user land (most probable option) if more happens it interacts with the kernel, external parties, ...Dependding on that ask the developers |
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| 08:41.24 | HadoBrando | ty chrisH, how do i get strae? |
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| 08:43.08 | HadoBrando | ok wow, you meant strace? the screen just flashes |
| 08:43.15 | HadoBrando | because so much information is running |
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| 08:43.48 | brah | What happens if I switch to sid now, and switch back to testing once jessie releases? |
| 08:45.32 | b0lt | brah: since you have to ask, i guess you would end up with a severely borked system |
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| 08:45.44 | ronny | hi |
| 08:45.56 | b0lt | brah: theoretically, doing so should work fine, but you will have several crashes, lots of bugs and this channel does not support sid |
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| 08:46.06 | b0lt | brah: so... have fun :) |
| 08:46.11 | ronny | is there a simple mostly builtin way install a plain python2.5 on testing |
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| 08:47.22 | HadoBrando | i will ask the devs, thanks alot for the strace command ChrisH :) |
| 08:47.42 | brah | b0lt: Yeah, sorry, it was more a question of how the release system works than a question something particularily next related. |
| 08:47.58 | ronny | hmm |
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| 08:48.05 | ronny | omg, im blind |
| 08:48.17 | ronny | appears i completely missed there still is a package |
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| 08:48.33 | b0lt | brah: what will happen is mostly nothing. if you switch in time, everything *should* work |
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| 08:51.37 | brah | b0lt: Thanks. |
| 08:52.01 | brah | Not too scared currently, because of the partial freeze. Apparently it doesn't crash much. |
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| 08:55.04 | b0lt | "doesn't crash much" is not a computer i'd want to use on a regular basis |
| 08:55.58 | HadoBrando | you could use windows then ;) |
| 08:56.19 | relipse | i did this in my script and it totally messed up all the permissions now my website is inaccessible ---> chmod -R o=r "${dest}" what do i do now? |
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| 08:57.16 | b0lt | to my experience, linux on a desktop, with all the bells and whistles, goes wrong just as often as a windows environment |
| 08:57.51 | b0lt | though i don't use such a linux desktop on a regular basis. console tools and awesome wm :D |
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| 08:58.15 | babilen | relipse: You probably removed the executable bit from directories (which are therefore not accessible) -- You webserver also shouldn't rely on correct "other" permissions to be able to read the data. |
| 08:58.19 | Sevet | relipse: fix the permissions. you probably need to o+=x on the directory and subdirectories |
| 08:58.36 | Sevet | babilen: +1 |
| 08:58.43 | histo | b0lt: My system hasn't "crashed" in years |
| 08:58.46 | babilen | relipse: A +X is probably what you look for. |
| 08:59.37 | Tuxinou | is a processor with lot of cache better for manage io/wait ? |
| 09:00.06 | Tuxinou | (for example, 8-12 mo) |
| 09:00.11 | Tuxinou | (against 6mo) |
| 09:00.23 | relipse | why +x |
| 09:00.36 | relipse | doesn't apache only read them? |
| 09:00.47 | babilen | relipse: +X not +x -- Read chmod's manpage to understand the difference. |
| 09:00.50 | Sevet | executable bit has a different meaning on directories than files, read 'man chmod' |
| 09:01.15 | histo | relipse: yeah but if executable is not set on a directory the user can't navigate into it. |
| 09:01.19 | babilen | relipse: Read what? You want directories to be executable if you want to be able to open (i.e. execute) them. |
| 09:01.27 | Sevet | on directories +x is a search flag |
| 09:01.32 | babilen | relipse: Or rather s/open/list their contents/ |
| 09:01.46 | babilen | relipse: I would pause a minute now and think about the relations between group/owner of those data files and the group/user your http server runs as. |
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| 09:08.16 | alberto1 | My error is: hub 4-0:1.0 Unable to enumerate usb device on port and usb 4-2 device descriptor read 64 error - 71 our 4.2 device not acepting adress erro 71, this error is sansa clip + |
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| 09:08.22 | alberto1 | how to solve this? |
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| 09:09.16 | alberto1 | he just does not recognize the device |
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| 09:10.36 | alberto1 | usb 4-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71 |
| 09:12.07 | Tuxinou | for a raid 1 |
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| 09:12.20 | Tuxinou | is it a good hdd the WD black edition |
| 09:12.21 | Tuxinou | ? |
| 09:12.31 | Tuxinou | or must i take the red series |
| 09:13.48 | relipse | i'm running apache, I accidently messed up my permissions and now i'm getting this error: Forbidden. You don't have permission to access /main/register/ on this server. How do I fix this? |
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| 09:14.21 | babilen | relipse: Fix you directory permissions (check on +X in the chmod manpage) |
| 09:14.24 | babilen | *your |
| 09:14.30 | Tuxinou | is the directory empty ? |
| 09:14.34 | Tuxinou | because if it is |
| 09:14.39 | jaalto | How can I calculate how much memory my processes use? Do I need to resort to grep, awk, awk and use top(1) listing? |
| 09:14.41 | Tuxinou | it's probably conf issue |
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| 09:15.00 | Tuxinou | with allowoverride |
| 09:15.01 | alberto1 | This is my dmesg, see please http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=MBJMwSu6 |
| 09:15.02 | babilen | jaalto: Just run "free -m" (or other options) |
| 09:15.10 | jaalto | babilen: ok |
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| 09:16.32 | babilen | Tuxinou: relipse set the permissions of /everything/ to o=r ... Directories are therefore also r-- and their content can therefore not be listed. Apparently relipse does not want to fix those permissions (with a +X), but meh ... |
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| 09:16.51 | Tuxinou | ok :p |
| 09:17.02 | Tuxinou | because sometimes, it's allowoverride issue |
| 09:17.06 | babilen | Tuxinou: Well, not quite everything, just of the entire /var/www tree (or whatever relipse uses) |
| 09:17.15 | Tuxinou | if you don't want to be aware of having a index.html / php |
| 09:17.32 | alberto1 | anyone :( |
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| 09:17.58 | alberto1 | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=MBJMwSu6 this possible solve this? my sansa clip + not reconize in usb device |
| 09:18.02 | jaalto | babilen: Hm. did I miss fromthing in free(1). It says: " total amount of free and used physical". I don't see options to calclulate memory of my processes only.... |
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| 09:18.52 | relipse | babilen: i tried +x,+r,+w but same error |
| 09:19.00 | babilen | jaalto: I don't quite understand -- What would else would use your memory? (if you factor out cached and buffers) |
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| 09:19.47 | jaalto | babilen: I'm not interested in whole system. Only my user processes amongst other users. |
| 09:19.52 | babilen | relipse: It is +X -- Which will only set the executable bit for directories. If that doesn't solve it than you have to provide /a lot/ more details about your setup than you provided so far. (e.g. exact permissions of your files, exact error, which webserver do you use, ..., ..., ...) |
| 09:20.31 | jaalto | babilen: We have per user memory limits and I'd like to see what I'm currently using compared to that limit |
| 09:20.39 | takis_GR | how can add poweroff, reboot button in slim login screen? |
| 09:20.43 | babilen | jaalto: Ah, okay. Hmm, not aware of a tool that does that. (never needed it) -- Lets see if something like that exists. Did you look for suitable options of free already? |
| 09:21.04 | NiLon | jaalto you could get that from ps, but remember that they might be using shared memory so it's not accurate unless you are doing chroot jails for each user |
| 09:21.06 | jaalto | babilen: Yes. Free only shows total system memory details. |
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| 09:21.36 | babilen | jaalto: ack, lets see if we can find something. Can't be that hard and if everything else fails we can write it. |
| 09:21.45 | jaalto | NiLon: That's what I thought initially. I'm aware that some memory is shared. Just interested in rought estimate |
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| 09:23.14 | jaalto | babilen: I can write grep, awk, perl -- so parsing top is not a problem. Just wondering is someone remembers some utility that had some option to specify -uu USER or like that in regards to checking system memory usage |
| 09:23.19 | babilen | jaalto: Take a look at smem |
| 09:23.24 | babilen | ,i smem |
| 09:23.25 | judd | Package smem (utils, extra) in squeeze/i386: memory reporting tool. Version: 0.9-4; Size: 10.2k; Installed: 80k; Homepage: http://www.selenic.com/smem/ |
| 09:24.16 | babilen | jaalto: In particular "smem -u" - But then I am sure that various other tools like that exist. Google yourself if that does not fit your needs :D |
| 09:24.22 | jaalto | babilen: installing ... just a minute |
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| 09:28.56 | jaalto | babilen: "smem -u -k" seems to be what I looked for. Thanks. |
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| 09:29.04 | babilen | wonderful :) |
| 09:29.06 | quleap | Hello |
| 09:29.28 | babilen | jaalto: It was simply the first tool that I found ... I am sure there are others ;) |
| 09:29.28 | quleap | Having some trouble with a livecd i imaged to a usb drive, this laptop is touchy and i get the error |
| 09:29.35 | quleap | isolinux.bin corrupt or not found |
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| 09:29.45 | quleap | but grub on my hard drive can boot the usb device |
| 09:29.52 | babilen | quleap: "a livecd" ? Which live CD is that and how did you "image" it to a usb drive? |
| 09:29.55 | quleap | i think the bootloader on the pendrive is missing the partition |
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| 09:30.04 | histo | quleap: oh now you're going to get banned from debian awesome |
| 09:30.08 | quleap | using winimage and its supposed to be compatible |
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| 09:30.16 | takis_GR | how can add poweroff, reboot button in slim login screen? |
| 09:30.17 | quleap | histo: not this time, im not mobile |
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| 09:30.45 | babilen | quleap: Which live cd is that? |
| 09:30.55 | quleap | so im checking the image of the partition now to compare sums with its iso because normally it would boot but i would like to install grub to this |
| 09:31.01 | babilen | … |
| 09:31.03 | histo | quleap: Well you need to follow the directions from the kali linux page. If you have... and you are still not booting then I would verify your iso and bits on the usb drive you copied with winimage |
| 09:31.06 | quleap | i successfully booted it but it thinks its an iso9660 right now |
| 09:31.12 | quleap | histo: ignored |
| 09:31.21 | babilen | quleap: WHICH live cd are you talking about? What does this have to do with Debian? |
| 09:31.25 | quleap | kali linux |
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| 09:31.43 | babilen | dpkg: kali linux |
| 09:31.43 | quleap | general linux questions about grub on a debian based system |
| 09:31.44 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on irc.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 09:31.46 | histo | quleap: because you dd'd an iso9660 file to a usb drive |
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| 09:31.48 | quleap | running live as iso9660 |
| 09:31.56 | histo | babilen: he's banned from there |
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| 09:32.26 | jaalto | babilen: I don't think there are many. This is first time heard of smem. This kind of functionality should be build-in free(1) or top(1); Yeah, top has -u option, but it does not summarize user's memory values, only system memory values at the beginning |
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| 09:32.34 | histo | babilen: he started swearing and throwing a little fit when people where trying to help him. |
| 09:32.37 | babilen | quleap: Please ask Kali related questions in the correct channel or in ##linux -- We only support pure Debian in here for a number of social /and/ technical reasons. Thank you and have a nice day. |
| 09:32.44 | babilen | histo: Lets move on :) |
| 09:32.46 | histo | k |
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| 09:36.22 | babilen | jaalto: Well, great that I stumbled over it then. :-D |
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| 09:38.47 | ChrisH | HadoBrando: was offline for a while. can you paste some hundert of these strace lines onto paste.debain.net Maybe I can see what this SW tries to do. |
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| 09:47.42 | dawolf | babilen: my box is booting the new kernel now |
| 09:47.56 | babilen | oh, good ... or not? |
| 09:48.17 | dawolf | turned out one of the hdds was borked. worked after replacing it |
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| 09:57.24 | HadoBrando | ChrisH: doesnt work, always says Invalid format for name (no special chars, max 10 chars) when i try to paste it |
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| 09:59.12 | HadoBrando | chrisH: haha stupid, here you are http://paste.debian.net/250238/ |
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| 10:05.44 | eugenmayer | hello. I accidently marked packages for installation in aptitiude. How to unmark them |
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| 10:06.59 | petn-randall | I'm trying to list all installed packages depending on libltdl7. Unfortunately, my bash-fu isn't that good. This is how far I got: apt-cache rdepends libltdl7 | xargs -I{} dpkg -l {} 2>&1 >/dev/null && echo {} is installed |
| 10:08.11 | petn-randall | However, the part after && apparently never gets executed. I think bash interprets that and executes it after the xargs. Any hints? |
| 10:08.38 | ChrisH | HadoBrando: It looks like it loops in executing /bin/MySecureShell all the time. Time for you to go to the MySecureShell support |
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| 10:09.45 | HadoBrando | thanks chris, i already this post on their forums |
| 10:09.51 | HadoBrando | and linked the pastebin now aswell |
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| 10:10.15 | ChrisH | HadoBrando: BTW, what is the advantage of this MySecureShell over OpenSshd? From this funny looking webpage I cannot see it |
| 10:11.18 | HadoBrando | acl, fakeuser/fakegroups, limits to sftp commands etc... i have a fairly complicated setup of users and groups that share files |
| 10:11.19 | babilen | petn-randall: "aptitude search ~i~Dlibltdl7" ? |
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| 10:11.53 | eugenmayer | how to clear the uninstal/install list in aptitude? purgs cache? |
| 10:12.09 | ChrisH | HadoBrando: Well, its your server. changeshell to sftpserver provides sftp-only, too. |
| 10:12.24 | petn-randall | babilen: Ah, didn't think of that, thanks. |
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| 10:12.29 | babilen | eugenmayer: You can undo changes with "ctrl-u" or run "aptitude keep-all" or something like that. |
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| 10:13.02 | babilen | eugenmayer: The "keep-all" is somewhere in the menus -- Typically don't use the TUI |
| 10:13.04 | eugenmayer | keep-all did the trick, thanks! |
| 10:13.12 | babilen | yay :) |
| 10:13.23 | HadoBrando | can you deny chmod with shell sftpserver? |
| 10:13.51 | HadoBrando | or make a fake permission create-mask? |
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| 10:15.03 | HadoBrando | ssh just felt like it wasnt made for reproducing my old ftp setup, probably im just too noob, with mysecureshell i just saw a way to realize the setup on linux permissions aswell |
| 10:15.11 | HadoBrando | with the help of mount --bind |
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| 10:15.59 | sharky | hi guys, I am trying to start ssh server on a laptop with debian live usb, I installed it with apt-get install ssh, try to start it with /etc/init.d/ssh start as root, but it does not start |
| 10:16.17 | sharky | nothing to see in netstat -plantu too |
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| 10:16.52 | ChrisH | sharky: dont the live session have something like ssh-start as root? try ssh+tab+tab |
| 10:16.55 | sharky | i gave root and user passwords, logged out and in from xfce, the live usb is debian 6 |
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| 10:17.33 | sharky | ChrisH, ooh I will try it now |
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| 10:18.32 | HadoBrando | ChrisH: would you recommend to get rid of mysecureshell?? |
| 10:18.46 | HadoBrando | i would have to build another server since that one is already in production... |
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| 10:19.30 | sharky | ChrisH, there are "ssh, ssh-add, ssh-agent, ssh-argv0,ssh-copy-id,sshd,ssh-keygen,ssh-vulnkey,ssh-keyscan" |
| 10:20.36 | escube | Hi guys, I'm having problem on my debian, trying to use httplib2 python library for https. It seems it's a bug in debian, but cannot find a solution |
| 10:21.11 | escube | when trying to connect on a https website I get : httplib2.SSLHandshakeError: [Errno 1] _ssl.c:504: error:14077438:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 alert internal error |
| 10:21.14 | ChrisH | HadoBrando: I would try to implement all using openssh and chroot and similar stuff. depending all on the need from the users and maybe legal stuff. |
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| 10:21.34 | ChrisH | sharky: start+tab+tab ? |
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| 10:22.46 | sharky | ChrisH, it outputs "startpar, start-stop-daemon.orig, startxfce4, start-stop-daemon, startx" |
| 10:23.18 | babilen | escube: We really need more details ... Which version of Debian/httplib2 is that? What is the exact code? … |
| 10:23.49 | babilen | escube: Use http://paste.debian.net to provide output/snippets and tools such as dpkg -l PKG, apt-cache policy PKG for the version information. |
| 10:24.31 | HadoBrando | ChrisH: my brain just explodes as i dont understand how to work with only 3 kinds of permissions with the 3rd being OTHER... i need at least 5 or 6 different permissions on a folder and its subfolders, some shall be able to list but not do anything at all, some shall be able to change etc.. ill will experiment with that in my future and maybe switch back to openssh again |
| 10:25.04 | HadoBrando | may mount --bind is the solution to this aswell |
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| 10:27.21 | ChrisH | HadoBrando: maybe this might be a valid situation to think about the use of ACL... But I cannot recommend ACLs in general |
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| 10:28.42 | ChrisH | sharky: sorry for letting you run the wrong direction. Then check /var/log/* for errors from sshd |
| 10:28.51 | HadoBrando | ChrisH: i would rather use simple/strictly seperated folders aswell, but my users wont let me cause they would have to maintain the same files in different folders etc... so i ended up with mysecureshell with the goal of changing nothing at all for them |
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| 10:29.05 | HadoBrando | since it was a fight anyways to get them to switch to sftp for me |
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| 10:30.12 | ChrisH | HadoBrando: are they using via internal LAN? maybe SMB over OpenVPN is an alternative |
| 10:30.27 | HadoBrando | nono its used worldwide |
| 10:31.49 | HadoBrando | we use it to share data with clients |
| 10:32.53 | sharky | ChrisH, no problem, I looked in /var/log/, but there is no ssh , no messages, no system, no kernel .. only few logs that are not relevant |
| 10:32.54 | ChrisH | HadoBrando: WebDAV over https? |
| 10:33.30 | HadoBrando | well i thought sftp is way more secure, isnt it? |
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| 10:34.39 | HadoBrando | security is MY main priority |
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| 10:37.21 | ChrisH | HadoBrando: I am not the security guy :) I have a similar setup for a local group and there I offered SMB over OpenVPN. |
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| 10:38.50 | escube | babilen : http://paste.debian.net/250241/ |
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| 10:40.22 | babilen | dpkg: tell escube -about kali linux |
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| 10:41.45 | debdeb | hi |
| 10:41.55 | graChe28 | bambanx, not sure. try apt-cache search |
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| 10:42.45 | sharky | dpkg: tell sharky -about kali linux |
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| 10:43.19 | debdeb | i need a hint: when start using my webcam with mplayer... sometimes it works... sometimes not. when not the error is: "Unable to open file /dev/video0" |
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| 10:44.04 | debdeb | it seems, that it doesnt work, when i have used nautilus-filemanager before |
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| 10:44.53 | debdeb | and i assume it has to do with something that the webcam is scanned as a "MTP device" before |
| 10:45.51 | escube | babilen : it's based on "wheezy" |
| 10:46.34 | debdeb | the error does not happen, when i disconnect the webcam from usb and connect it again afterwards... after this usb-out-in mplayer starts correctly and displays the video |
| 10:47.35 | debdeb | /var/log/messages: Apr 18 12:28:17 hostname mtp-probe: checking bus 5, device 20: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1e.0/0000:02:02.0/usb5/5-1/5-1.3" |
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| 10:48.01 | debdeb | and: Apr 18 12:28:17 hostname mtp-probe: bus: 5, device: 20 was not an MTP device |
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| 10:49.00 | debdeb | is there any switch to disable all what has to do with MTP or the scanning? |
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| 10:50.18 | babilen | escube: We only support pure Debian in here for a number of social and technical reasons. If you would like us to help you install you are free to install Debian. See "/msg dpkg install wheezy" for instructions with that. |
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| 10:57.21 | littlebit | babilen: hi, you there? |
| 10:57.31 | babilen | no |
| 10:57.56 | littlebit | babilen: :) |
| 10:58.57 | markvandenborre | I'm totally at a loss here |
| 10:59.01 | littlebit | babilen: you had to be afk when I came and told you my problem that I'am in. |
| 10:59.01 | littlebit | i get a warning message when trying to install a package telling me that the package could not be authenticated. Searching with google I tried this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7001019#7001019 |
| 10:59.11 | markvandenborre | I try to configure a Postscript ethernet printer |
| 10:59.17 | markvandenborre | that I can ping |
| 10:59.23 | markvandenborre | that I can see is listening on port 9100 |
| 10:59.35 | markvandenborre | I bought the thing so it would "just work" |
| 10:59.40 | markvandenborre | with Debian |
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| 11:00.04 | markvandenborre | (it did so perfectly with an unnamed very popular debian derivative distro for years) |
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| 11:01.03 | markvandenborre | I will need some troubleshooting |
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| 11:06.55 | jelly | markvandenborre: brand and model? |
| 11:07.05 | jelly | just ask |
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| 11:08.40 | debdeb | oh right... the problematic webcam is: New USB device found, idVendor=04fc, idProduct=504a... Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0... gspca_main: sunplus-2.14.0 probing 04fc:504a |
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| 11:09.16 | andkore | anyone know how to set up hotplugging for USB input devices? |
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| 11:09.28 | markvandenborre | jelly: HP Laserjet 2100 |
| 11:09.29 | debdeb | lsusb: ID 04fc:504a Sunplus Technology Co., Ltd Aiptek Mini PenCam 1.3 |
| 11:09.46 | markvandenborre | I've looked at cups logs, at general logs |
| 11:09.52 | HadoBrando | ChrisH: just wanted to say thanks for the support and good day to everyone |
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| 11:11.17 | markvandenborre | jelly: printing problems with HP Laserjet 4000 series too |
| 11:11.47 | jelly | markvandenborre: using pcl or ps? |
| 11:11.53 | markvandenborre | ps |
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| 11:11.59 | jelly | tried pcl? |
| 11:12.06 | markvandenborre | I guess I will try to do that indeed |
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| 11:12.22 | markvandenborre | even if I do wonder where this mess is coming from |
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| 11:12.38 | jelly | native ps might require putting more RAM in the printer |
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| 11:13.07 | caraconan | Hi there. How can I get a module in debian, for instance atl1c ? |
| 11:13.16 | caraconan | Guessing the package and installing it? |
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| 11:14.37 | debdeb | anything more, you need to know, about the webcam or the system? |
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| 11:15.02 | markvandenborre | jelly: pcl is less demanding in terms of memory? |
| 11:15.27 | markvandenborre | it's struggling to print even a _test_ page... |
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| 11:15.36 | ksk | caraconan: check if your kernel has that ( i dont have a stock debian kernel here) and load the module if its compiled as module? |
| 11:15.57 | ksk | eg "grep ATL /boot/config..." |
| 11:15.59 | caraconan | In other words, the only thing that I have is the kernel module name |
| 11:16.14 | markvandenborre | maybe I should reboot the printer before trying to send it a test page... |
| 11:16.14 | caraconan | How to be able to do a "modprobe my_kernel_module" from there? |
| 11:16.23 | debdeb | oh... a workaroud would be: is it possible to reset an usb-port that it behaves like i switched out/in the device? |
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| 11:16.37 | jelly | markvandenborre: should be less demanding for the printer, I believe |
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| 11:16.59 | jelly | but a test page ought to work anyway |
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| 11:17.34 | debdeb | but how would i do that? i mean: to reset an specific usb-port? |
| 11:17.48 | jelly | caraconan: if the current kernel doesn't have it, you'd have to install and reboot into a newer kernel |
| 11:17.59 | markvandenborre | jelly: printer seemed to have buffered some old partially rendered postscript test pages |
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| 11:18.02 | markvandenborre | this is horrible |
| 11:18.21 | caraconan | jelly: don't tell me that.... There's no package that I can install and makes the trick? |
| 11:18.29 | jelly | markvandenborre: power cycle it, start from fresh |
| 11:18.44 | jelly | caraconan: do you want me to lie? |
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| 11:19.01 | caraconan | Please :) |
| 11:19.09 | markvandenborre | jelly: it seems I would have had to disconnect the power and all for it to lose its cached jobs |
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| 11:20.37 | traph | caraconan, you can try finding out which package contains the atl1c module with apt-file. |
| 11:20.38 | jelly | caraconan: which debian release do you have installed? Pastebin the output of "uname -a" and "modinfo atl1c" |
| 11:20.53 | markvandenborre | I wonder if I should file a bug report about these drivers |
| 11:21.32 | jelly | caraconan: "/msg dpkg atl1c" suggests it should be present in Debian 6. |
| 11:21.45 | caraconan | Debian 7 |
| 11:22.11 | markvandenborre | they are not useful at all, while on a very similarly configured you-know-which-debian-derivative machine, these or very similar ppds worked flawlessly |
| 11:22.49 | caraconan | Is debian 6 |
| 11:22.57 | jelly | markvandenborre: you know you're allowed to say "ubuntu" in here. |
| 11:23.03 | caraconan | 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 11:23.12 | traph | caraconan, I'm using debian seven and the newest kernel has the module you're looking for. |
| 11:23.14 | Infiltrator | takes jelly out back... |
| 11:23.25 | caraconan | Ok, I'll run for it. Thanks |
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| 11:25.07 | caraconan | Burning it now (wheezy) and let's see. Thanks everybody |
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| 11:25.30 | Infiltrator | caraconan: If you're running squeeze, you could just do an in-place upgrade. |
| 11:26.03 | debdeb | more info is: the loaded kernel-modules for the webcam are: gspca_sunplus, gspca_main, videodev, usbcore |
| 11:26.24 | debdeb | ist there any possibility to switch of MTP-probing in the driver? |
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| 11:33.51 | Walther | This is not strictly debian talk, but I have a guess there are some ZoL users around here. Why do zvols report insane numbers as used/available, whereas normal zfs 'storages' with set quota show up very reasonably? |
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| 11:41.46 | jelly | is zol source packaged in Debian already btw? |
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| 11:46.04 | jelly | apparently not (yet) |
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| 11:47.55 | g105b | I know this is really simple, but how do I get a shell script to be executable from anywhere, just by typing its name? |
| 11:48.38 | AimHere | Put it in your $PATH |
| 11:49.06 | ChrisH | markvandenborre: Did you describe that does not work? I uses several HP Network connected printers with different Debian relases and CUPS pretty smoothly the past years. |
| 11:49.12 | g105b | AimHere: that is a list of directories that are looked in for the given command? |
| 11:49.47 | AimHere | Yes; I generally alter the startup scripts so that they include ~/bin, where I put all my little local programs, but I'm not sure if that's good style or not |
| 11:49.50 | debdeb | chmod 777 script? or +x |
| 11:50.01 | AimHere | *so that the PATH variable includes ~/bin rather |
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| 11:50.06 | g105b | AimHere: ah I like that a lot |
| 11:50.17 | g105b | AimHere: can I do that in bashrc? |
| 11:50.27 | AimHere | That or .profile or .bash_profile |
| 11:50.36 | debdeb | oh... wait... err, its the path |
| 11:50.38 | AimHere | I can never remember which startup script does what |
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| 11:51.21 | g105b | AimHere: does adding something to the $PATH persist after a reboot, or will it need adding each log-in within the .profile script? |
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| 11:52.01 | AimHere | the PATH variable is set by one of the startup scripts, either some global one or your local .bashrc or .profile or whatever |
| 11:52.17 | AimHere | So if you want it to persist across reboots, you'll have to alter it there |
| 11:52.26 | g105b | AimHere: ah, looking in .profile in my Ubuntu machine, there is already a line that calls PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH" if the directory exists... |
| 11:52.38 | debdeb | yes... .bashrc... i use $HOME/local/bin/ |
| 11:53.10 | AimHere | Aha. Make $HOME/bin exist, and you should be golden, then! |
| 11:53.42 | AimHere | Seems to be the same in Debian |
| 11:54.03 | g105b | nice, thanks for the help |
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| 12:06.04 | debdeb | fyi: i seem to have found an workaround: modprobe -r gspca_sunplus ; sleep 5 ; modprobe gspca_sunplus |
| 12:06.20 | debdeb | before starting mplayer |
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| 12:19.20 | littlebit | hello people, i get a warning message when trying to install a package telling me that the package could not be authenticated. Searching with google I tried this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7001019#7001019 |
| 12:19.24 | littlebit | now, apt is apparently remove. Can someone help me out? |
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| 12:19.36 | spleen | hello people |
| 12:19.44 | spleen | how are you ? |
| 12:20.07 | jpw | littlebit: what package did you install on to what operating system using what repository? |
| 12:20.11 | spleen | how do you do to add sid repository ? |
| 12:21.09 | grobda24 | I'm using this to build a custom Debian kernel - "bash debian/bin/test-patches -f 686-pae -s rt -j 4 ../alsa-snd-usb-audio-Replace-mixer-for-Electrix-Ebox-44.patch ../alsa-snd-usb-audio-Skip-un-parseable-mixer-units.patch" |
| 12:21.11 | littlebit | jpw: os is debian |
| 12:21.14 | littlebit | the latest |
| 12:21.19 | grobda24 | But I get - "No rule to make target `binary-arch_amd64_rt_686-pae'. Stop." |
| 12:21.36 | grobda24 | This was working. I wonder if the flavour name has changed ? |
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| 12:22.20 | jelly | dpkg, tell littlebit about bat |
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| 12:23.27 | littlebit | jelly: the problem is that apt and all the other utilities are not there |
| 12:23.57 | jelly | littlebit: there is no /usr/bin/apt-get or /usr/bin/aptitude command on the system? |
| 12:25.06 | littlebit | jelly: nope |
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| 12:26.32 | jelly | littlebit: ok. pastebin the output of "dpkg -l libc6 dpkg base-files" and "lsb_release -a", the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list, |
| 12:26.41 | jelly | that's it for now |
| 12:27.35 | babilen | littlebit: And the next time you think that removing apt is a good idea: Don't ;) |
| 12:27.53 | babilen | littlebit: Oh, throw in "apt" into the package list for the "dpkg -l" command too please |
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| 12:28.02 | Infiltrator | Don't you have to say "Yes, I know that this is a bad idea"? Or is that aptitude only? |
| 12:28.31 | babilen | It's not essential |
| 12:29.00 | Infiltrator | Fair enough. |
| 12:29.07 | littlebit | babilen: as I mentioned I get those warnings that some package that I'am trying to isntall is not signed |
| 12:29.14 | babilen | Ah, it is important -- Yeah, you would get that prompt and have to enter something like "yeah, I know this is a bad idea. But do what I ask you to!" |
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| 12:30.13 | Infiltrator | You are about to do something potentially harmful. |
| 12:30.13 | Infiltrator | To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!' |
| 12:30.30 | Infiltrator | When I did apt-get remove apt |
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| 12:30.54 | themill | (apt adds the Essential flag to itself even though it is not there in Packages) |
| 12:31.08 | littlebit | babilen: http://pastebin.com/0k3vCjWW |
| 12:31.20 | littlebit | babilen: http://pastebin.com/dVusBTWw |
| 12:31.28 | themill | «aptitude search ~E|grep apt» for instance |
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| 12:32.23 | littlebit | babilen: http://pastebin.com/w0NkuGQX |
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| 12:33.50 | jelly | littlebit: eh, go to http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/apt, download the binary package for your Architecture and install using dpkg -i |
| 12:34.02 | jelly | littlebit: dpkg --print-architecture |
| 12:34.20 | jelly | ... will tell you which arch you have installed |
| 12:34.45 | jelly | littlebit: is there, perhaps, a package in ls -l /var/cache/apt/archives/apt_*deb ? |
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| 12:40.11 | littlebit | jelly: no i searched there too. |
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| 12:42.16 | babilen | dpkg: tell littlebit -about pastebin.com |
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| 12:53.58 | mokmaym | Hello, I just booted a Debian live system, issued "apt-get update" and got "W: GPG error: http://http.debian.net wheezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG AED4B06F473041FA Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (6.0/squeeze) <ftpmaster@debian.org>" |
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| 12:55.58 | debdeb | how do i get the pid of a process... but not from its name (f.ex.: pidof mplayer)... i need it from its options... so for a "mplayer -nosound" i would need a "pidof mplayer*-nosound*" or at least "pidof -nosound" |
| 12:56.26 | mokmaym | debdeb: try "ps aux | grep mplayer" |
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| 12:56.37 | ChrisH | debdeb: pgrep -- -nosound |
| 12:56.45 | debdeb | mokmaym: thats too much |
| 12:57.06 | ChrisH | debdeb: pgrep -f -- -nosound |
| 12:57.40 | ChrisH | mokmaym: did you run this command once or more often? |
| 12:57.49 | ksk | thats not too cool to grep for pids. how about starting that mplay in a skript? (eg bash does know the PIDs of its children) |
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| 12:58.47 | ksk | debdeb: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ProcessManagement#My_script_runs_a_job_in_the_background.__How_do_I_get_its_PID.3F |
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| 12:59.12 | jerryzhou | hi |
| 12:59.17 | debdeb | ChrisH: pgrep seems good. thanks. but for what is this "--" in your command? |
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| 12:59.33 | debdeb | ChrisH: oh. and running just once |
| 13:00.21 | ChrisH | debdeb: -- finishes option processing. otherwise -nosound would be treated as option to pgrep and not as argument for pgrep |
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| 13:00.34 | debdeb | ahhhh |
| 13:00.39 | ChrisH | debdeb: I asked mokmaym: did you run this command once or more often? |
| 13:00.42 | debdeb | seems logical. thanks |
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| 13:03.52 | debdeb | ChrisH: coolio... it works as expected |
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| 13:05.24 | debdeb | so i dont kill my mplayer playing a video... when i just eant to kill the webcam-mplayer |
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| 13:08.06 | ChrisH | debdeb: It might be easier to modify the webcam mplayer starter script to note down the PID and implement a stop method :) |
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| 13:08.44 | debdeb | i just needed a dirty workaround ;-) |
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| 13:09.45 | debdeb | ChrisH: but yes. that would be better... |
| 13:09.59 | debdeb | ... but more work ;-) |
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| 13:12.02 | ChrisH | debdeb: Keep it in mind and write your start/stop scripts better next time. |
| 13:12.22 | debdeb | aye ^^ |
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| 13:13.04 | debdeb | maybe i will use that for another skript i hack et the moment: |
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| 13:16.23 | debdeb | this one becomes a "monster-skript"... it decrypts a luks-partition... for this it looks for an usb-stick on all machines i am logged in atm... mounts it... and uses it as a keyfile... luksopen... and umounts it on that machine again |
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| 13:19.08 | ChrisH | debdeb: Did you test any return code from any commands so far? How long do you shell scritping? and how to you determine "all machines i am logged in atm" in code? |
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| 13:19.54 | debdeb | no, no return-code-checking so far |
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| 13:20.16 | debdeb | but error-messages |
| 13:20.37 | debdeb | with libnotify and text2speech ;-) |
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| 13:21.24 | ChrisH | debdeb: define "but error-messages" or show some examples on paste.debian-net |
| 13:22.04 | debdeb | i do some bash-skripting for several years... but not good... and only learning by doing and try&error |
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| 13:24.15 | debdeb | i do tests... for example: test if the keyfile is there after the mount of the usb-stick... if not... define an error-message-variable... do a script-shutdown-function (unmounting and so on) and at the end... display the variable with the error-text |
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| 13:25.45 | ChrisH | debdeb: housekeeping and cleanup, well done. but we are getting offtopic here. |
| 13:26.10 | val_erie | I there a command to add python-rpy library path to user's path in debian? |
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| 13:27.07 | wleslie | val_erie: how did you install it? |
| 13:27.38 | debdeb | and the all machines-question: a list of machines... ping them... then ssh them... look if the UUID of the stick is there... then do the things |
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| 13:27.56 | val_erie | wleslie, I installed it through command line with aptitude install |
| 13:29.00 | wleslie | val_erie: and you're using the apt installed python? then it should be on the path. are you importing the correct module name? |
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| 13:30.07 | wleslie | how do I find out why this package is removed in wheezy? gtk2-engines-smooth |
| 13:30.14 | EgonR | how do i add a multi word SSID to my /etc/network/interfaces configuration file? |
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| 13:31.19 | debdeb | the "logged in machines" is not done yet... i think about checking if i am logged in n the GUI (and no screensafer is running)... then notify me with libnotify that i should put in the usb-stick now. at the moment the skript only works, when the stick is allready pluged in... but when not: error-notify me |
| 13:31.29 | EgonR | At home i have the SSID Egon, over here i they have "Net1 C0E7 Point1" and just typing that in quotes into the file does not work for me. |
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| 13:32.50 | val_erie | wleslie, the rpy package is to be used by an application that runs in python virtual environment . For this reason it can not access rpy installed in operating system. It was suggested to me that the rpy library path shoould be added to this application user's path, but I do not know how to do it |
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| 13:34.39 | wleslie | val_erie: I don't think debian installed packages are useful in a virtualenv. use apt to install build-essential, and then use pip or setuptools to install from within your ve. |
| 13:34.50 | debdeb | the goal of the script is: that i can decrypt the luks-partition comfortable when i am not at the machine with the luks to put in the usb-stick there |
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| 13:36.31 | debdeb | or use more than one stick automatically... or use my mobile over wlan as keystore as an fallback... or something like that |
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| 13:37.31 | debdeb | oh... and did i mention it? with text2speech! ;-) |
| 13:37.41 | debdeb | nerdy ^^ |
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| 13:40.59 | wleslie | I'm running a recent wheezy nightly (with x.org, stumpwm, dvorak keymap) on my x1 carbon thinkpad and am having some odd behaviour attempting to map caps to ctrl. specifically, xmodmap -e makes xmodmap -pm look exactly how I want it, but caps is still functioning like caps. |
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| 13:41.52 | EgonR | How do i properly add an wireless SSID with spaces in it? |
| 13:42.25 | wleslie | where are keyboard layouts configured these days (outside gnome) ? |
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| 13:49.34 | somiaj | EgonR: add it where? |
| 13:49.45 | somiaj | EgonR: to /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 13:54.22 | val_erie | wleslie, I have build-essential installed , but I am not sure how to install rpy in ve. pip install python-rpy ??? |
| 13:54.43 | wleslie | pip install rpy, probably |
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| 14:00.12 | val_erie | wleslie, so I need to activate the ve and be in the directory where I want rpy to be installed? |
| 14:00.39 | EgonR | somiaj: yes |
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| 14:00.50 | somiaj | EgonR: 'essid foo bar' |
| 14:00.57 | somiaj | EgonR: I had to do that once, don' |
| 14:01.21 | somiaj | EgonR: don't put quotes or anything around it, it sets the essid to be the whole string (to the newline character at the end) |
| 14:01.39 | somiaj | val_erie: there is already a python-rpy package in debian, so why use pip to install it? |
| 14:01.42 | wleslie | val_erie: you need to activate the ve, it will install into the ve, so the directory doesn't matter |
| 14:01.55 | wleslie | somiaj: because he is using a virtualenv |
| 14:02.18 | EgonR | so lets say the ssid is "dan home" i wshould just add that without quotes |
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| 14:06.48 | karlpinc | Why do I have a line like this in dmesg? "[ 9.200403] sdc: sdd1 sdd2 sdd3 sdd4" Shouldn't sdc have partitions that begin with sdc? (squeeze) |
| 14:08.03 | debdeb | yes. i think they should |
| 14:08.11 | petn-randall | karlpinc: Please paste the 10 lines before and after that line, too. ==> http://paste.debian.net |
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| 14:10.39 | jelly | karlpinc: bits of lines in dmesg buffer can be out of order at times. |
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| 14:14.11 | val_erie | wleslie, so I activate it as usual with source venv/bin/activate and the install rpy with pip install python-rpy? how do I know where it will be installed? and do I need to set it on user's PATH? |
| 14:16.41 | wleslie | pip install rpy. everything you do in your virtual env happens in your virtual env. you should never ever need to do any path management in a correctly structured python program. |
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| 14:21.50 | val_erie | wleslie, I activated ve and used pip install rpy command , but I got 'Downloading/unpacking rpy. Could not find any downloads that satisfy the requirement rpy' |
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| 14:24.10 | wleslie | you're using a standard cpython 2.6/2.7 ? |
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| 14:25.30 | wleslie | xmodmap -e 'keycode 66 = Control_L' has made caps->ctrl work; feels a bit hairy though. |
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| 14:45.49 | jemadux | why jin chess is not on debian ? |
| 14:46.24 | PerfDave | jemadux: Presumably because nobody's packaged it for Debian? |
| 14:46.39 | PerfDave | Assuming it's free software in keeping with Debian's acceptance policy etc. |
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| 14:49.01 | somiaj | slooth: do not irc as root. |
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| 14:49.55 | petn-randall | Also, don't drink and root. I learned that back in the day the hard way. ;) |
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| 14:53.19 | slooth | Hello. Is there a way to install Xrandr 1.4.0 on Debian wheezy? Thanks |
| 14:54.16 | petn-randall | slooth: It's packaged in experimental. What do you need it for? |
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| 14:58.10 | slooth | petn-randall, trying NVIDIA optimus new driver (proprietary one) |
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| 14:59.01 | somiaj | slooth: it might be some work to get it in wheezy, you could check the experimental packages (But if they have no wheezy depends (Which they could) then you'll have to backport (/msg dpkg ssbp) them yourself |
| 14:59.10 | val_erie | When R is installed in debian, is it made as a shared library? |
| 15:00.05 | slooth | somiaj, thanks man. And thanks for before :) |
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| 15:01.37 | val_erie | whare is Rsource directory in debian??? |
| 15:02.02 | PerfDave | val_erie: dpkg -L will tell you the contents of a package |
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| 15:06.20 | val_erie | how can I check that R is built with the configure option '--enable-R-shlib', in order to make R as a shared library? |
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| 15:07.03 | petn-randall | suspects a XY problem. |
| 15:07.13 | xy | :/ |
| 15:07.28 | petn-randall | val_erie: Ultimately, what are you trying to achieve? |
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| 15:09.36 | petn-randall | pats xy on the head. |
| 15:10.03 | val_erie | pent-randall, I am trying to build rpy package to install it in virtualenv. I downloaded rpy from sourceforge.neet and now going through installation instructions. The first step is to check that you have built R with the configure |
| 15:10.04 | val_erie | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:12.34 | val_erie | Is the R source directory /usr/lib? |
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| 15:16.07 | petn-randall | val_erie: You probably just need the package r-base-dev |
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| 15:32.52 | sam_w_ | how can I regenerate/get a copy of alsa.conf? I accidentally deleted it... |
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| 15:34.22 | Dakota | sam_w_, I'm newbie here. But pretty sure just as root type alsaconf |
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| 15:35.33 | sam_w_ | Dakota: I thought alsaconf had been depreciated and no longer was included in alsautils? |
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| 15:37.20 | Dakota | >.< |
| 15:37.44 | sam_w_ | also man alsa.conf yields nothing |
| 15:37.53 | sam_w_ | and I can find nothing by searching the web |
| 15:37.55 | sam_w_ | what is this |
| 15:38.05 | Dakota | https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/poof-alsaconf-is-gone-so-what-should-we-bear-in-mind-now-4175429110/ |
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| 15:39.45 | sam_w_ | both alsactl init and alsactl store throw errors because they can't find alas.conf |
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| 15:40.20 | Tinned_Tuna | Heya, I've deleted a file, but there's a process with a file handle open to it still |
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| 15:40.46 | Tinned_Tuna | we can recover that file from the proc directory (/proc/<pid>/fd/<fd-num>) |
| 15:41.20 | mtn | sam_w_: http://linuxwisdom.blogspot.com/2009/01/reinstall-deleted-or-damaged-files-in.html |
| 15:41.41 | Tinned_Tuna | however, doing this with cp seems to recover a copy of it, whereas I'd like so that if we were to not kill the process and then perform tail -f <file> we see the updates to the file |
| 15:42.01 | Tinned_Tuna | any thoughts? |
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| 15:42.49 | sam_w_ | mtn: simultaneously incredibly useful and slightly insulting :p Thanks! |
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| 15:43.10 | mtn | sam_w_: how is that insulting? |
| 15:43.53 | sam_w_ | mtn: the actual article, not you. I'm being serious - thanks :-) |
| 15:43.55 | Dakota | mtn, its called Idiot I am |
| 15:44.05 | mtn | gotcha |
| 15:44.20 | mtn | sam_w_: welcome |
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| 15:48.00 | BOOMSHAKALAKA | I'm having problems installing debian gnu/hurd |
| 15:48.18 | BOOMSHAKALAKA | i think I have too much memory in my computer |
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| 15:48.50 | nipsy | Nonsense. There is never a thing as too much. :) |
| 15:48.53 | nipsy | How much exactly? |
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| 15:49.04 | BOOMSHAKALAKA | uh I don't know man |
| 15:49.13 | BOOMSHAKALAKA | I think I have 512mb in this thing? |
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| 15:49.31 | nipsy | Sounds like you don't have nearly enough. |
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| 15:51.54 | nipsy | Unless Hurd considers 512MB a lot. |
| 15:52.10 | babilen | BOOMSHAKALAKA: You are aware that gnu/hurd has not (yet) been officially released, aren't you? I would recommend either gnu/linux or gnu/kfreebsd for anything even remotely serious. If you are /really/ interested in gnu/hurd ask in #debian-hurd on irc.oftc.net |
| 15:52.15 | zinx | debian gnu/hurd doesn't |
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| 15:52.33 | zinx | (it runs the same programs, so its requirements are similar to debian gnu/linux) |
| 15:52.37 | BOOMSHAKALAKA | babilen, thanks dude |
| 15:53.02 | zinx | fwiw Debian GNU/Linux is the most supported variant |
| 15:53.25 | zinx | even stock FreeBSD is going to be better supported than Debian GNU/kfreebsd |
| 15:53.35 | zinx | and Hurd.... well, that's basically for academics :P |
| 15:53.48 | BOOMSHAKALAKA | haha yeah I know |
| 15:53.55 | BOOMSHAKALAKA | isn't trying to intall Hurd.... just trollin ya all |
| 15:54.07 | BOOMSHAKALAKA | I didn't even realize there was still active development on it |
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| 16:05.14 | babilen | BOOMSHAKALAKA: Please play somewhere else, we really have better things to do. |
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| 16:07.14 | anxt | how big would an emdebian system (like plain vanillaish) be for x86? |
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| 16:07.35 | anxt | is it easy to have /var on a ramdisk, to make the disk never mount rw ? |
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| 16:08.29 | somiaj | anxt: umm, you want /var to be writable to, that is where your logs go, changes to the apt database, mail, sometimes vhost webroots, etc |
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| 16:09.01 | somiaj | though I am unsure what you would do in an embeded system where you don't have the space or want all that |
| 16:09.40 | anxt | somiaj: i was implying the /var would be rw since it was on a ram disk ;) |
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| 16:10.06 | anxt | somiaj: its for a rescue reimaging of embedded devices over the network, is my plan. |
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| 16:10.44 | anxt | basically i need ssh, tar, dd rsync lzma and ufsutils |
| 16:10.44 | acu | !paste |
| 16:10.45 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 16:11.26 | somiaj | anxt: ahh then I missunderstood your 'never mount rw' |
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| 16:12.31 | anxt | somiaj: it was not the worlds most lucid sentence. my bad. |
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| 16:14.09 | somiaj | anxt: you do need some persistance of /var, so using it as a ram disk could have intersting results (espcially if your system crashes) |
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| 16:14.40 | somiaj | though I guess once you have your image locked down, you'll mostly just loose logs |
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| 16:15.32 | anxt | somiaj: I do not need any persistance, in a pinch i will mount a scratch partition. |
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| 16:16.08 | anxt | somiaj: i am currently updating ~300 machines, headless, and remote via rsync. If something goes wrong i have some trouble. |
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| 16:16.33 | anxt | by some trouble, i mean the company i work for is at risk |
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| 16:16.46 | anxt | ie my employment too |
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| 16:16.58 | somiaj | then I would take anything I say with a grain of salt, I'm just a hobbiest. (: |
| 16:17.03 | anxt | lets prepare for the worst ;) |
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| 16:17.22 | anxt | somiaj: just because its a hobby doesn't mean you do not have good insight :) |
| 16:17.27 | SuperNull | !dpkg helps |
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| 16:17.37 | somiaj | SuperNull: /msg dpkg hlep |
| 16:17.38 | jelly | anxt: what would you need emdebian for? |
| 16:17.40 | somiaj | and spell it help |
| 16:17.44 | SuperNull | ;) |
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| 16:23.02 | jbroome | jskinner_: if you bounce again, i'm going to send you to ##fix_your_connection |
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| 16:23.29 | cirdan | afternoon all. does anyone know how I can diagnost issues with ethernet bonding with LAG/LCAP? |
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| 16:24.10 | jelly | jbroome: please just do it and next time /msg him, let us sane people ignoring joins/parts/quits blissfully unaware |
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| 16:24.47 | daemonkeeper | cirdan: cat /proc/net/bonding/bond0 |
| 16:24.56 | jbroome | jelly: continue your bliss |
| 16:25.03 | cirdan | daemonkeeper: yeah but that's not helping |
| 16:25.17 | val_erie | I need to ensure that R installed on my computer has been compiled as a shared library. How can it be done? |
| 16:25.19 | daemonkeeper | Why not? It tells you all you can know about it. |
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| 16:25.33 | cirdan | i have a managed switch and can set up the bonding on both ends, but it seems like only 1 of the interfaces works |
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| 16:25.46 | daemonkeeper | cirdan: What type of switch? |
| 16:25.53 | cirdan | if my connection gets sent over a different connect (I suppose) I can't talk to my server |
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| 16:26.07 | jelly | jbroome: *thumbs up* |
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| 16:26.29 | cirdan | dell powerconnect 5324 |
| 16:26.35 | cirdan | everyhting shows all as up |
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| 16:26.59 | cirdan | the switch can send based on level2, level2+3 or level 2-4 |
| 16:27.23 | daemonkeeper | cirdan: I don't know about Dell. But depending on the LACP mode and configuration an LACP link uses one interface only with the other as backup only. |
| 16:28.06 | cirdan | daemonkeeper: my problem is with it setup and 2 gigabit nics, i can talk to the box from machine1, but I can't from machine2 |
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| 16:31.52 | ddman | how do i profile a library that is dlopened from an executable ? The dlopened library is compiled with -g as well as the executable |
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| 16:32.49 | daemonkeeper | cirdan: machine 2 having a LACP itself? |
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| 16:34.06 | cirdan | no |
| 16:34.17 | cirdan | the onlything bonded is the nas box to the switch |
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| 16:35.28 | daemonkeeper | cirdan: Sounds like a problem of your load balancing mode on the switch. |
| 16:35.42 | cirdan | it's odd |
| 16:36.26 | jelly | nah, I had similar trouble setting up lacp with a cisco switch as well |
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| 16:36.34 | cirdan | how did you fix it? |
| 16:36.45 | jelly | let the networking dudes configure it |
| 16:36.48 | jelly | :-D |
| 16:36.52 | cirdan | I am the networking dude |
| 16:36.54 | cirdan | :-p |
| 16:36.56 | jelly | hahah |
| 16:37.15 | cirdan | I don't remember if I tried balancing on layer2 only... |
| 16:37.20 | cirdan | I know I tried 2-3 and 2-4 |
| 16:37.26 | chris___ | Hello! Help! I've changed my MAC address in virtualbox and now I can't connect to any networks. Is there something I need to do to get it working again? I'm from ubuntu so this network configuring is new to me. |
| 16:37.42 | cirdan | hehe |
| 16:38.15 | jelly | cirdan: 2-3 is hashing by MAC+ip and 2-4 is MAC+ip+port? |
| 16:38.21 | chris___ | Any ideas? |
| 16:38.35 | somiaj | chris___: if the mac address changes then the device changes rom say eth0 to eth1 |
| 16:38.41 | cirdan | yeah, iirc |
| 16:38.45 | jelly | chris___: read this: /msg dpkg 70 |
| 16:39.00 | chris___ | somiaj: yes it's eth2 now |
| 16:39.06 | somiaj | chris___: you can modify /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules to make it have the same device (eth0 name) as before |
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| 16:39.23 | cirdan | could try the windows way and reboot :-) |
| 16:39.31 | somiaj | chris___: so you can either modify your network settings to use eth2, or you can modify that file and set it up so the mac address gets the correct interace identiications |
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| 16:39.35 | chris___ | cirdan: i've done that many times |
| 16:39.38 | cirdan | ah |
| 16:40.00 | cirdan | jelly: but how the switch routes traffic shouldn't affect the bond, should it? |
| 16:40.37 | cirdan | haha, an old email about a earlier dell switch: Do yourself a favor. Set fire to the Dell, and buy a Cisco. |
| 16:40.37 | chris___ | somiaj: that files does not exist |
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| 16:41.03 | somiaj | chris___: it should, what version of debian are you running |
| 16:41.14 | chris___ | somiaj: debian 6 |
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| 16:41.27 | chris___ | somiaj: sorry! |
| 16:41.28 | somiaj | yea that file should be there |
| 16:41.29 | chris___ | it does |
| 16:41.29 | maxxe | cisco sounds good =) |
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| 16:43.15 | chris___ | somiaj: So if i copy the MAC address from eth2 to eth0 then it will work again. That's fine. But how would I make it work correctly for eth2? |
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| 16:44.36 | somiaj | chris___: depends on how you configure your network. But dpending on your set up you may have multiple things to change |
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| 16:44.53 | somiaj | chris___: it is easiests to change that file (or just delete it and reboot and let it reassign the current nic to eth0) |
| 16:45.16 | somiaj | chris___: /etc/network/interfaces if the first place to look (though if you use network manager or some other tool then use that tool) |
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| 16:49.43 | jtheuer | puh, so many backup tools -- which one do you recommend (server) if I want to backup certain dirs of a server. It should upload to s3 and keep the last n days and m month... |
| 16:50.36 | petn-randall | jtheuer: If it was a classic server, I'd fully recommend bacula. But I have no experience with Amazon EC2 and backup. |
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| 16:51.57 | anxt | i use bacula, it is pretty great |
| 16:52.09 | petn-randall | bacula++ |
| 16:52.18 | anxt | you could probably rig up a bacula-sd on amazon s3 |
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| 16:52.49 | jtheuer | seems that bacula indeed has no s3 support. lets see what is easier to fix... |
| 16:52.56 | anxt | that python one might be OK for smaller stuff. |
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| 16:53.45 | anxt | i forget its name. |
| 16:54.22 | jtheuer | there is backup-manager |
| 16:54.23 | petn-randall | anxt: rdiff-backup? |
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| 16:55.30 | cirrus] | hello |
| 16:55.47 | cirrus] | now I have problems with dmcrypt |
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| 16:56.23 | petn-randall | cirrus]: Go ahead and ask. Nobody bites here :) |
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| 16:56.45 | petn-randall | Except for, maybe, babilien. |
| 16:56.52 | phewl | hello i hate to ask, but i have looked on google how to downgrade a package, and it says to just include the version shown in apt-cache showpkg transmission |
| 16:56.58 | cirrus] | when I boot, it asks for password, I enter correct password and it says "cryptsetup: unknown fstype, bad password or options?" |
| 16:57.06 | cirrus] | petn-randall, yes, good idea :P |
| 16:57.13 | phewl | yet when i do apt-get install transmission-2.03-2 it doesnt work and says no file |
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| 16:58.13 | zhr | @ ' 506(6(((((((((0(; |
| 16:58.29 | petn-randall | phewl: That's because there's no such package. You want to do 'apt-get install transmission=2.03-2' (note the equal sign). However, word of warning: downgrading packages is not supported and may break the package entirely. |
| 16:58.44 | petn-randall | zhr: Yepp, your keyboard works :) |
| 16:58.46 | phewl | Ah |
| 16:58.56 | phewl | now i feel dumb, thank you so much petn-randall |
| 16:58.57 | phewl | :) |
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| 16:59.21 | cirrus] | so, what I can do with this dmcrypt? |
| 16:59.23 | petn-randall | phewl: No problem, I have that every now and then. Usually babilien helps me out then ;) |
| 16:59.29 | cirrus] | this broken dmcrypt? |
| 16:59.33 | phewl | hehe |
| 16:59.51 | petn-randall | cirrus]: You sure it's not a wrong password? |
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| 17:00.12 | petn-randall | cirrus]: You sure you're using the same keyboard layout as when you set the password? |
| 17:00.36 | cirrus] | petn-randall, yes. when I typed wrong password purposely (like "asdfghjkl") it said "wrong password" as far as I remember |
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| 17:00.58 | cirdan | wonders |
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| 17:01.09 | cirrus] | and about keyboard layout... I'm not sure... |
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| 17:01.42 | petn-randall | cirrus]: I'm pretty sure the error message will be the one you cited. |
| 17:01.43 | slooth | I can |
| 17:01.46 | dexta | prevening |
| 17:01.47 | petn-randall | *it's |
| 17:02.02 | petn-randall | scratch that |
| 17:02.03 | cirrus] | hmm |
| 17:02.12 | cirrus] | let me check this |
| 17:02.20 | slooth | I can't use Synaptics (Elantech) with Debian wheezy, although it is found by Xorg and reports zero problems/warninos etc. it just doesn't work. What could be rwong? |
| 17:02.26 | Strum_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:02.27 | Strum_ | tp server do i have to set a timezone? |
| 17:02.43 | cirrus] | wait... if it would turn out it's not my password, then what's my password and how can I reset it? |
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| 17:03.02 | somiaj | chris___: provided you don't have any other places that you address the interface by name. In a basic set up you shouldn't, in a more custom setup it could be a lot more |
| 17:03.26 | somiaj | chris___: iptable rules (For firewalls) is one example that sometimes is associated toa paticular interace (but again this is not default) |
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| 17:03.58 | cirrus] | if it would be wrong password and I wouldn't know what password do I have, then only option would be deleting partition and reinstall? |
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| 17:05.49 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | hi |
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| 17:05.59 | dutchfish | Strum_, while ntp uses universal time and does not explicitly need a time zone, your local host does, so it is wise to set you locality and timezone |
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| 17:06.09 | Strum_ | ok |
| 17:06.10 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Is FTP user used by anything? Or i can use it for PureFTPd? |
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| 17:06.23 | Strum_ | how do i do that in a terminal? |
| 17:06.33 | Strum_ | i am using the standard version |
| 17:07.02 | karlpinc | petn-randall: http://paste.debian.net/250324/ Sorry for the delay. You can see the line in question at line 21. |
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| 17:08.29 | val_erie | I am going through manual installation of Rpy . The first step in the process is to check that R is buiilt with the configure option '--enable-R-shlib' How can I check this??? |
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| 17:09.20 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Is FTP user used by anything? Or i can use it for PureFTPd? |
| 17:09.49 | benje | nobody get a problem with mulit user switch ? |
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| 17:10.21 | cirrus] | ok |
| 17:10.23 | benje | and an other related to it about blank screen with ati and when xorg.conf ? |
| 17:10.35 | benje | is present |
| 17:11.18 | cirrus] | if it's wrong password then I get "cryptsetup failed", if it's correct then I get "unknown fstype" |
| 17:11.26 | cirrus] | so password is ok |
| 17:11.30 | petn-randall | val_erie: Have you tried installing r-base-dev as I advised earlier? |
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| 17:12.25 | petn-randall | cirrus]: What commands are you exactly using? |
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| 17:13.22 | cirrus] | petn-randall, right now? I don't use any, I just boot and I have set up everything via debian installer to have crypted partition |
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| 17:14.23 | cirrus] | maybe it's because I have swap on my crypted drive and it's before /? |
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| 17:15.48 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 17:15.49 | *** topic/#debian by dondelelcaro -> wheezy release scheduled for May 4/5 /msg dpkg freeze | squeeze (6.0.7) released; /msg dpkg squeeze | jessie will be wheezy+1 | lenny EOL 2012-02-06; /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg pastebin | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | wheezy/sid: #debian-next on irc.oftc.net | FAQ: http://deb.li/IRCFAQ | channel logs: http://deb.li/yQXC |
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| 17:16.22 | cirdan | is there a jessie dist already created? |
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| 17:16.46 | cirdan | when would that happen |
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| 17:18.11 | cirrus] | hmm, I know the solution |
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| 17:18.51 | dutchfish | cirdan, right after the wheezy release |
| 17:19.20 | cirrus] | just tell me: if I will have crypted / and uncrypted swap, then it will be unsafe? |
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| 17:19.59 | cirrus] | and will it work? |
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| 17:20.12 | dutchfish | cirrus], only when he uncrypted swap is being used ;) an dno it will not work in regards to security |
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| 17:20.27 | cirrus] | okay |
| 17:20.32 | cirrus] | so I just won't use swap |
| 17:20.45 | cirrus] | and reinstall Debian |
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| 17:20.58 | cirrus] | see you soon |
| 17:21.03 | dutchfish | cirrus], if you have the resources (mem) and you are brave, sure |
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| 17:21.30 | cirrus] | dutchfish, will 8 GB be enough for coding and web browsing? |
| 17:21.41 | cirrus] | I am not gaming on Debian or making huge applications |
| 17:21.45 | dutchfish | cirrus], in 99,9% of all cases, yes |
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| 17:22.12 | dutchfish | cirrus], but there are cornercases where swap is needed |
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| 17:22.25 | cirrus] | ok |
| 17:22.34 | cirrus] | like hibernation? |
| 17:22.41 | cirrus] | (sleep to drive) |
| 17:22.48 | jelly-home | or having 200 tabs in the browser |
| 17:22.57 | cirrus] | s/sleep/suspend |
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| 17:23.04 | dutchfish | cirrus], mostly think large databases, large media encoding and all that kind of things, where yse data files are handled |
| 17:23.19 | cirrus] | jelly-home, I've had 200 tabs, fit in 8 GB |
| 17:23.21 | dutchfish | s/yse/large |
| 17:23.26 | cirrus] | ok |
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| 17:23.47 | benje | val_erie, in the makefile.am file |
| 17:23.51 | smallfoot- | When will Debian do the /usr merge? |
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| 17:25.03 | anxt | can I pass options the kernel doesn't understand to have grub send data into the OS it boots? |
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| 17:25.20 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Is FTP user used by anything? Or i can use it for PureFTPd? |
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| 17:25.51 | format_c | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE, it's exactly for that use-case |
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| 17:25.57 | dutchfish | anxt, nope, not through that |
| 17:26.09 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | format_c, thanks |
| 17:26.22 | format_c | AFAIK ProFTPd brings a ftp user. |
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| 17:26.48 | format_c | when you use a non-system user setup you actually need a system user owning the files. |
| 17:27.21 | dutchfish | anxt, but you are free to choose whatever you want to boot and write your own handler |
| 17:27.23 | anxt | hmm, you would think there could be some "user variables" to fetch from proc or some such |
| 17:27.52 | anxt | no worries, i can just read the info from the /boot partition |
| 17:27.56 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | 2. I wanna build a deb for game that was last updated in 2000 year. Who can recommend a manual for newbie in making debs? |
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| 17:28.25 | ksk | hey. which one is the active io scheduler if i do cat /sys/block/sdX/queue/scheduler? the one with the brackets i guess? |
| 17:28.35 | benje | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ |
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| 17:29.16 | benje | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE, or you can use checkinstall for yourself |
| 17:29.37 | smallfoot- | ksk, yes |
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| 17:30.18 | ksk | smallfoot-: ok, thanks |
| 17:30.32 | smallfoot- | ksk, hdd = cfq |
| 17:30.36 | smallfoot- | ksk, ssd = noop or deadline |
| 17:30.57 | ksk | that was not the question ;) but thanks |
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| 17:31.06 | smallfoot- | thats what you want |
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| 17:33.02 | dutchfish | ksk, this is all in the kernel docs too, fyi |
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| 17:34.39 | jelly-home | smallfoot-: except when cfq is buggy and you have to switch to say deadline |
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| 17:35.06 | SuperNull | hey guys what is the name of that software that reads logs and sets up iptables rules for people trying to DOS ? uhg i forgot. |
| 17:35.46 | nipsy | fail2ban? |
| 17:35.50 | smallfoot- | jelly, linux kernel doesn't have any bugs |
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| 17:36.04 | smallfoot- | jelly-home, and if it does, u shud kick jens axboes ass |
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| 17:36.50 | jelly-home | smallfoot-: that won't help make my servers work better; switching away from cfq, however, does |
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| 17:38.02 | dutchfish | smallfoot-, this has nothing to do with bugs, but all with performance tuning, to anyones need there is no general recipe. |
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| 17:38.52 | jelly-home | dutchfish: oh it has everything to do with bugs and hackish implementations of ioschedulers, in this case |
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| 17:39.31 | jelly-home | can't see any reason why something calling itself "fair" would delay some requests for 30-60s, while letting others |
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| 17:39.43 | jelly-home | deadline is actually much fairer |
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| 17:40.13 | dutchfish | jelly-home, oh, but i gues this goes offtopic easely, again it depends on circumstances and needs |
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| 17:41.14 | jelly-home | nod |
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| 17:45.09 | karlpinc | Would somebody please look at http://paste.debian.net/250324/ and tell me why line 21 seems to be saying that sdc has partitions sdd1, sdd2, etc? |
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| 17:45.38 | caraconan | Hi all. Any idea why one message has been received and the other one no? http://paste.debian.net/250307/ The only difference is the system user who sends the e-mail |
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| 17:46.54 | THE_GFR|WORK | I have a 2 port eSATA dock, I need a card that works with linux and will do FIS DISK SWITCHING, I can't find an eSATA card that will work with the dock or anything |
| 17:46.58 | THE_GFR|WORK | any ideas? |
| 17:47.23 | karlpinc | caraconan: The receiver has a spam filter? |
| 17:47.50 | karlpinc | caraconan: No telling from what you pasted, since the mail is sent to the remote side in both cases. |
| 17:48.01 | caraconan | It's possible, I just have full control of sender server, neither relay nor receiver |
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| 17:48.37 | karlpinc | caraconan: For instance, the receiver may not like the envelope sender to differ from the header sender. Who knows? |
| 17:49.14 | caraconan | karlpinc: from the logs the only thing that we can be sure is that the relay accepted the e-mail, right? |
| 17:49.21 | karlpinc | caraconan: Right. |
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| 17:50.02 | caraconan | Thanks, this is something that really drives me crazy, the fact of not being sure if the e-mails are arriving or not... |
| 17:50.06 | dutchfish | karlpinc, do you have 1 partition on sdc and 4 on sdd? |
| 17:50.13 | Sevet | karlpinc: looks like 2 different threads logging at the same time |
| 17:50.14 | caraconan | Cheap things turns to expensive ones :) |
| 17:50.26 | Sevet | interleaved log lines 19,21,24 |
| 17:50.32 | karlpinc | dutchfish: Sounds right, but I forget. |
| 17:50.46 | dutchfish | karlpinc, as Sevet said |
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| 17:51.12 | karlpinc | Interleving is one thing, but it says "sdc: sdd1..." That's a single line. |
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| 17:52.20 | Sevet | because sdd appended to the buffer including \n before sdc had finished appending to the buffer |
| 17:52.33 | karlpinc | I have sdd2 crypted. But when I go to uncrypt I get an error that it's not a luks partition. |
| 17:52.43 | karlpinc | Sevet: I see. |
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| 17:52.55 | dutchfish | karlpinc, that could easely happen when sdc is printed in th elog and the examination of the partitions takes more then an other process needs to complete, ie the next 4 partitions of sdd |
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| 17:53.36 | karlpinc | dutchfish: Seems slightly shameful to have corruption like that. :- |
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| 17:54.02 | dutchfish | karlpinc, i admit it is not nice |
| 17:54.11 | SARC | Can anyone give me advice on a BAR 6: address space collision on of device error? |
| 17:54.34 | dutchfish | karlpinc, is this wheezy's stock kernel? |
| 17:54.43 | karlpinc | Humm. Well, I'll poke at my crypt setup for a few.. |
| 17:54.46 | karlpinc | dutchfish: It's squeeze. |
| 17:55.08 | karlpinc | dutchfish: 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP |
| 17:55.12 | dutchfish | karlpinc, ah ok, i haven't seen these artifacts in wheezyÅ› kernel |
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| 17:55.40 | smallfoot- | When will Debian do the /usr merge? |
| 17:55.45 | dutchfish | karlpinc, yup, more likely on more cores |
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| 17:57.03 | dutchfish | karlpinc, and less likely on externel logging |
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| 17:57.42 | sharky | does someone know a way to start ssh server on a debian live usb |
| 17:57.52 | dutchfish | karlpinc, but check the status of you partitions and mounts, if those are ok, forget it, it is only cosmetic (logging) |
| 17:58.21 | karlpinc | sharky: If the openssh-server package is not there, then install it and /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 17:58.38 | dutchfish | karlpinc, you might want to consider wheezy, if this is a fresh install |
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| 17:59.02 | karlpinc | dutchfish: Nope. Probably started this box at sarge.... I forget. |
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| 17:59.17 | dutchfish | ah ok |
| 17:59.37 | sharky | karlpinc, I tried that, but it does not start, I installed the meta ssh (client/server) I gave root and user passwords tried /etc/init.d/ssh start and service ssh start but does not work like that |
| 18:00.07 | sharky | somehow not one service is to be seen with netstat -plantu in the live environment |
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| 18:00.23 | karlpinc | sharky: Then paste what you typed and what it says. What does the log say? |
| 18:01.13 | sharky | karlpinc, there is no log in /var/log there is no messages, no system, no kernel ... only few irrelevant logs |
| 18:01.31 | sharky | it does not give error message |
| 18:01.33 | Strum_ | have you tried start shhd manually sharky ? |
| 18:01.47 | sharky | Strum_, not yet |
| 18:02.00 | Strum_ | that's what worked for me |
| 18:02.13 | sharky | hm I will try it now, give me a minute |
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| 18:03.47 | Strum_ | > /usr/sbin/sshd |
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| 18:04.11 | sharky | Strum_, thank you MAN!! |
| 18:04.38 | msn | how do i connect to a wireless network which does not broadcast its name but still exists, It was connecting earlier but the broadcastting of SSID was disabled |
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| 18:04.45 | sharky | Strum_, works like a charm |
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| 18:05.24 | Strum_ | my pleasure |
| 18:05.26 | Strum_ | glad to hepl |
| 18:05.39 | Strum_ | i banged my head agaisnt it yesterday for hours |
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| 18:06.21 | Strum_ | something in the init.d scripts stops it from starting when you run it that way |
| 18:06.43 | e-anima | anyone ever tried to rsnapshot backup on a mounted ntfs hdd? i mean could it be that this is not possible? |
| 18:06.53 | sharky | Strum_, me too today, search the Internets, but did not try manually, man man man I am getting stupid or expecting everything to work |
| 18:07.08 | karlpinc | sharky: There is /etc/default/ but I don't recall it preventing server startup by default. |
| 18:07.19 | sharky | I was thinking to check the init.d scripts |
| 18:08.31 | sharky | thanks guys |
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| 18:13.51 | val_erie | I need to remove R and reinstall it . what would be the best way to do it? |
| 18:14.10 | karlpinc | So, I've a usb drive with a crypted luks partition. It seems that sometimes the drive is detected as sdd and sometimes as sdc. This messes with my /etc/crypttab. Is there a good solution? |
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| 18:14.52 | karlpinc | val_erie: If you installed it from packages then just purge the packages and re-install. A purge will remove all your config files and the re-install will set it back to default. Why do you need to re-install? |
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| 18:15.30 | nipsy | karlpinc: Use the UUID of the device instead of the traditional device name. |
| 18:16.01 | karlpinc | nipsy: That does not seem to be a cryptsetup option? Or am I clueless? I'm running squeeze.... |
| 18:16.09 | nipsy | karlpinc: man crypttab has examples. |
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| 18:16.47 | nipsy | karlpinc: Oh, not sure if the feature is unsupported in an older release. If your man page for crypttab doesn't have a UUID example, then probably not. |
| 18:17.03 | karlpinc | nipsy: So, wheezy! |
| 18:17.17 | nipsy | karlpinc: That's what I'm on and it does. |
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| 18:17.37 | karlpinc | nipsy: Thanks. |
| 18:18.17 | larks | any of you guys used kde 4.10.2 from experimental with a dual head xorg config? |
| 18:18.18 | nipsy | And since we look to be a couple weeks out from release at this point, why not upgrade to the latest and greatest? :) |
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| 18:18.39 | val_erie | karlpinc, I need R package that has shared library. From instructions I am following I need to <go to the R source directory>, make distclean. ./configure --enable-R-shlib, make, make install. Since I do not know if R installed in debian has shared library, I thought I have to configure and install it anew |
| 18:18.40 | karlpinc | nipsy: Inerta. |
| 18:18.54 | nipsy | karlpinc: I'm just picking. I always track testing anyway. |
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| 18:19.34 | nipsy | val_erie: I can't imagine that R in Debian isn't using shared libraries. |
| 18:19.51 | karlpinc | val_erie: What library? I think packages.debian.org should let you look at what's included. |
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| 18:19.57 | nipsy | val_erie: But you can "apt-get source package" and look through the debian/rules to see if it is or not. |
| 18:20.16 | nipsy | val_erie: There may even be a way to get R to tell you via a command line switch (how it was compiled that is). |
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| 18:21.28 | zinx | val_erie: i dunno what you're doing, but you probably want the r-base-dev package |
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| 18:22.20 | r0b- | has anyone compiled a 3.8.8 kernel on Debian? |
| 18:22.57 | nipsy | val_erie: Checked for you. shlib is enabled. |
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| 18:25.43 | EgonR | To connect to a wpa2-psk network, would this line work or is it for wpa-psk only? "wpa-psk mysecretpassphrase" |
| 18:26.16 | val_erie | nipsy, karlpinc, zinx, I am trying to install rpy in virtualenv , but get errors. the instructions for installation tell me 1) you *must* check that you have built R with the configure option '--enable-R-shlib' 2) configure the path to the R library. 3) python setup.py install The erros I get are: collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 18:26.16 | val_erie | error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1 |
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| 18:27.33 | EgonR | I get no connection at this time |
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| 18:28.47 | val_erie | nipsy, do I type ' apt-get source package r' ? |
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| 18:30.51 | karlpinc | val_erie: On squeeze you can just do "aptitude install python-rpy". I bet that installs R too. Plus you probably want the "python-rpy-doc" package too. |
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| 18:32.18 | nipsy | val_erie: It was "apt-get source r-base". |
| 18:32.33 | karlpinc | val_erie: As a rule, you want to be using the package system. |
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| 18:34.42 | val_erie | karlpinc, I would like to use the rpy package in the system , but the application that uses it runs in virtual environment, so I have to install rpy in venv |
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| 18:37.18 | nipsy | val_erie: val_erie Are you using the Debian package for this, python-virtualenv? |
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| 18:39.23 | cousin_luigi | Greetings. |
| 18:39.49 | cousin_luigi | What's a pastebin-like site that's well supported by debian out of the box (and from command line)? |
| 18:40.07 | nipsy | val_erie: Here's a short bit on using them in Deiban if so: http://www.circuidipity.com/python2-and-python3.html |
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| 18:43.47 | babilen | cousin_luigi: http://paste.debian.net works well and nopaste can paste to it from the command line |
| 18:43.55 | cousin_luigi | babilen: ok |
| 18:44.05 | babilen | dpkg: tell cousin_luigi -about nopaste |
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| 18:46.01 | cousin_luigi | thanks, bbl |
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| 18:58.02 | val_erie | nipsy, thanks, I did find in debian/rules : --enable-R-shlib |
| 18:58.21 | nipsy | val_erie: No problem. |
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| 18:59.19 | SM0TVI | Here's an interesting one for you. I have problems getting audio to work on a fresh install, any clues on where to begin? |
| 18:59.50 | SuperNull | do you have a custom audio card or is it integrated? |
| 18:59.55 | SuperNull | orr bette yet over HDMI |
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| 19:00.02 | SM0TVI | Integrated. |
| 19:00.18 | SuperNull | how new is the hardware? |
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| 19:00.58 | SM0TVI | Not that new, it's an old Evo I intend for server and light playback duty. |
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| 19:01.19 | SuperNull | evo ? |
| 19:01.28 | SM0TVI | Compaq Evo d510 |
| 19:01.44 | sixyearsofdreams | SM0TVI ALSA |
| 19:01.56 | SuperNull | what he said most likely. |
| 19:02.08 | sixyearsofdreams | I'veh ad some good luck with ALSA even in bad conditions :D |
| 19:02.15 | SuperNull | im shocked it didnt work by it self slightly. but i honestly RARELY use those type of features (servers mostly) |
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| 19:02.17 | penguin1 | I can use sudo but when I try su (what I need sometimes), I get Authentication failure, with normal and root password |
| 19:02.23 | penguin1 | Do I have to enable su? |
| 19:02.23 | nipsy | SM0TVI: Does "aplay -L" show you anything? |
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| 19:02.39 | sixyearsofdreams | penguin1 users and root have to be added to the sudoers list |
| 19:02.46 | sixyearsofdreams | penguin1 do you know how to find sudoers list? |
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| 19:03.21 | nipsy | sixyearsofdreams: Shouldn't matter if he's using just su. |
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| 19:03.27 | penguin1 | yes /etc/sudoers |
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| 19:03.38 | sixyearsofdreams | oh right |
| 19:03.45 | sixyearsofdreams | appologies, SU wouldnt matter he is right |
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| 19:03.49 | mtn | penguin1: su works by default. what command exactly? |
| 19:03.52 | penguin1 | sixyearsofdreams: root ALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 19:03.58 | sixyearsofdreams | if your getting fail authentication on SU than you are typing in root password wrong my friend |
| 19:03.59 | penguin1 | mtn: I can do sudo, but su doesn't work |
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| 19:04.03 | sixyearsofdreams | penguin1 taht sounds right :) |
| 19:04.05 | penguin1 | you think so? |
| 19:04.09 | sixyearsofdreams | yeah you are supply wrong password 100% |
| 19:04.10 | SuperNull | is su set to only allow execute for 'wheel' group (old school ?) |
| 19:04.18 | mtn | penguin1: yes, I saw. what command exactly? |
| 19:04.20 | SM0TVI | nipsy: hang on. |
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| 19:04.55 | SuperNull | one of our old admins used to force execute only allowed for su on the ole wheel group.. then add any user who should be allowed to get su to that group.. so |
| 19:05.02 | SuperNull | fresh install wouldnt make sense tho |
| 19:05.08 | penguin1 | su command |
| 19:05.25 | penguin1 | I use the correct password, I am sure about that |
| 19:05.28 | mtn | penguin1: so, just: su. is that correct? |
| 19:05.38 | m0ksha | i have an external usb drive that occasionally drops connectivity while writing for extended periods of time (seagate usb 3.0 2TB) giving input/output error. i captured this from syslog around the time of occurrence but don't understand it: http://paste.debian.net/250342/ Can anyone help? thanks! :) |
| 19:05.39 | SuperNull | su != sudo. |
| 19:05.40 | SM0TVI | nipsy: command not found. |
| 19:05.44 | marc_smith | hey guys. I'm having problem with FBSD rel 9.1. It doesn't detect my PS/2 mouse. I use USB keyboard and PS/2 mouse. Mouse works on other systems. It also works on FBSD rel 8.3. I'd like to get some tips before I submit bug report. Maybe you could help me? |
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| 19:05.48 | sixyearsofdreams | su does not stand for sudo |
| 19:05.50 | sixyearsofdreams | does it? |
| 19:06.04 | penguin1 | yes |
| 19:06.10 | penguin1 | I want to elevate rights of user to root |
| 19:06.17 | sixyearsofdreams | su - run a shell with substitute user and group IDs |
| 19:06.20 | penguin1 | on another systems this works |
| 19:06.22 | mtn | penguin1: then the root password will work |
| 19:06.24 | penguin1 | but not on this one |
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| 19:06.33 | penguin1 | can I reset the root password by only using sudo? |
| 19:06.40 | penguin1 | I doubt on myself I type it right |
| 19:06.47 | penguin1 | but the root password should be fine btw |
| 19:07.04 | sixyearsofdreams | su has nothing to do with sudo, its just a simple command to switch users |
| 19:07.08 | digdilem | isn't the point of sudo that you don't need to go near the root pass? |
| 19:07.11 | nipsy | penguin1: Can you "grep wheel /etc/pam.d/su" and make sure everything that comes back is commented out? If so, you're typing the wrong password most likely (or you have a much more elaborate authentication setup using NIS or LDAP or something possibly). |
| 19:07.16 | sixyearsofdreams | its implanted in every bloody distro that ive tried |
| 19:07.29 | sixyearsofdreams | :) |
| 19:07.30 | nipsy | SM0TVI: It's in alsa-utils. |
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| 19:07.49 | jhutchins_wk | penguin1: I wouldn't do that. |
| 19:08.06 | jhutchins_wk | penguin1: Are you connected locally or over ssh? |
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| 19:08.18 | penguin1 | ssh |
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| 19:08.30 | jhutchins_wk | penguin1: Can you connect as root? |
| 19:08.33 | penguin1 | but the system is a vm, but this doesn't matter, the same problems would be there for any other system installed this way |
| 19:08.41 | penguin1 | I used sudo su - and it works |
| 19:08.44 | penguin1 | scary |
| 19:08.50 | sixyearsofdreams | @.@ |
| 19:08.52 | sixyearsofdreams | rofl |
| 19:08.55 | sixyearsofdreams | sudo su :D |
| 19:08.57 | nipsy | Well, of course. You know your own password. |
| 19:08.57 | penguin1 | but I am used to type su |
| 19:09.01 | penguin1 | yes |
| 19:09.04 | penguin1 | but not the root password |
| 19:09.07 | penguin1 | strange |
| 19:09.24 | penguin1 | I set it in debian preseed file |
| 19:09.24 | penguin1 | d-i passwd/root-password password r00tme |
| 19:09.30 | penguin1 | r00tme is a default password and would be changed before the system goes to production |
| 19:09.33 | sixyearsofdreams | penguin1 try ssh into box via root login like ~ jhutchins_wk suggestion |
| 19:09.51 | penguin1 | alright |
| 19:09.57 | franco00 | I am planning to install an Xless debian on my machine once wheezy is out ( \o/ ). Looking at connections and connection configurations: it seems nmcli can open and close a connection, but not create one. So I planned to peek and maybe copy the nm config file. Alas, I don't know where that file is (I mean, the one where the connections are listed). I tried dpkg -L network-manager, but didn't find what I am looking for. How can I find it? |
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| 19:10.14 | yehoshua | ciao |
| 19:10.26 | penguin1 | nipsy: I used the command and I get some text, all lines are commented out. |
| 19:10.41 | jhutchins_wk | I don't know how di handless passwords, but that should probably be password(r00tme) or something. |
| 19:10.51 | nipsy | penguin1: Then I'd say you have the wrong password somehow. Is this thing on the network with that password you used? |
| 19:10.52 | nkuttler | franco00: what kind of connection are you talking about? |
| 19:11.10 | franco00 | fro@efikamx:/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections$ <-- silly me, sorry for the question ( nkuttler : that file, I suppose ) |
| 19:11.12 | jhutchins_wk | RedHat's kickstart expects the encrypted value so you don't have a raw text password in the file. |
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| 19:11.49 | franco00 | nkuttler: 3g and WiFi connections |
| 19:11.59 | nipsy | penguin1: If so, I'd make sure it hasn't already been compromised. |
| 19:12.37 | jhutchins_wk | penguin1: Have you set the password with this method before? |
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| 19:13.03 | SM0TVI | nipsy: Okay, got alsa-utils, they show there is a card. But I don't get squat on audio :/ |
| 19:13.15 | nipsy | SM0TVI: Do you have pulseaudio installed? |
| 19:13.28 | SM0TVI | nipsy: Unknown. I think so. |
| 19:13.32 | sixyearsofdreams | SM0TVI You will have to play around al ittle with ALSAMIXER |
| 19:13.43 | sixyearsofdreams | SM0TVI some componen ts may be muted |
| 19:13.49 | sixyearsofdreams | SM0TVI and levels may be raised low |
| 19:13.55 | nipsy | SM0TVI: Just check for the package "dpkg --get-selections | grep pulseaudio" or some such. |
| 19:14.00 | sixyearsofdreams | SM0TVI also makes sure you got stuff plugged in right in the back |
| 19:14.22 | sixyearsofdreams | SM0TVI my old P4 box, the jack for audio wasnt really audio, it was manufacturer typo |
| 19:14.27 | sixyearsofdreams | took me days to figure that one out @.@ |
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| 19:14.53 | nipsy | SM0TVI: Assuming it is installed, and you're logged into the console via X, do a "ps xafu | grep pulseaudio" and see if it's running and under your uid. |
| 19:14.54 | jhutchins_wk | !alsa checklist |
| 19:14.55 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>. |
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| 19:15.12 | sixyearsofdreams | 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) |
| 19:15.18 | sixyearsofdreams | taht sounds about right :) |
| 19:15.30 | sixyearsofdreams | hugs dpkg |
| 19:15.45 | SM0TVI | nipsy: sixyearsofdreams: Nope, pulseaudio not running :( |
| 19:16.28 | nipsy | SM0TVI: I would install it personally. It has made sound much easier to get up and running in my experience. Your mileage may vary of course. |
| 19:16.29 | penguin1 | nipsy: yes |
| 19:16.37 | penguin1 | nipsy: it is a virtual network |
| 19:16.50 | penguin1 | jhutchins_wk: the debian installer should set the password, I guess it failed somehow |
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| 19:16.54 | nipsy | penguin1: Did you specify the "d-i passwd/root-password-again password r00tme" as well? |
| 19:16.55 | SM0TVI | nipsy: Installing pulseaudio as we speak :) |
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| 19:17.06 | nipsy | SM0TVI: Install pavucontrol also while you're at it. |
| 19:17.14 | nipsy | SM0TVI: That will be your mixer. |
| 19:17.15 | penguin1 | nispy: #d-i network-console/password-again password r00tme |
| 19:17.18 | penguin1 | nipsy: yes |
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| 19:17.28 | nipsy | Looks like you have it commented out. |
| 19:17.37 | nipsy | If that's the way you're specifying it. |
| 19:17.51 | nipsy | Which means you probably don't have a functional root password at the moment. |
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| 19:18.18 | nipsy | I would just "sudo; passwd" to set it if that isn't going to hurt anything. |
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| 19:18.52 | nipsy | Sorry, "sudo passwd root" to make it explicit without spawning a shell first. |
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| 19:19.24 | nipsy | And consider switching to "d-i passwd/root-password-crypted password [MD5 hash] |
| 19:19.26 | nipsy | " |
| 19:19.41 | Gollum | Q: when installing fglrx-driver it says my card isn't supported and I should fetch fglrx-legacy-driver from wheezy-backports, but I've added the wheezy-backports repository and it doesn't find any fglrx-legacy-driver package. What to do? |
| 19:19.52 | slooth | What's the best way to install bumblebee 3.1 on Debian Wheezy? |
| 19:20.01 | cirrus] | hi guys. I've told you that when I will install Debian I'll come and say "Hello from Debian". so: Hello from Debian :). Is there anything that I should do right after the install? |
| 19:20.16 | nipsy | cirrus]: Did you get Windows back on the machine too? |
| 19:20.24 | lastleo85 | ubuntu apps on debian how to? |
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| 19:20.45 | cirrus] | nipsy, yes. I fixed everything with help from #debian and dd |
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| 19:21.06 | nipsy | cirrus]: Cool. Congrats. Did the dd wipe out everything so nothing was confused? |
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| 19:21.17 | zykotick9 | lastleo85: simplest/best answer is probably, don't. |
| 19:21.24 | nipsy | zykotick9: lol |
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| 19:23.09 | nipsy | cirrus]: Or did you have more GPT/UEFI adventures even after zeroing the drive? |
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| 19:25.20 | sixyearsofdreams | Good ol debian ;) I ran a perfect server on Lenny back in the day with 0 problemz for a long time! |
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| 19:27.02 | nipsy | sixyearsofdreams: Same. All my servers run testing and I've been extremely happy with their stability. |
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| 19:27.58 | SM0TVI | nipsy: Found the issue - all streams muted and 0% :P |
| 19:28.06 | sixyearsofdreams | lol |
| 19:28.12 | nipsy | SM0TVI: That'll do it! |
| 19:28.15 | sixyearsofdreams | :) |
| 19:28.23 | nipsy | SM0TVI: Did you end up finding it via alsamixer or pavucontrol? |
| 19:28.24 | sixyearsofdreams | did alsa save the day? :) |
| 19:28.32 | SM0TVI | Now to get my paws on VLC 2.0.5 .... |
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| 19:28.39 | SM0TVI | sixyearsofdreams: Pulseaudio :) |
| 19:28.48 | sixyearsofdreams | eh ill have to keep pulseaudio in mind |
| 19:28.52 | sixyearsofdreams | havent tried it yet |
| 19:29.05 | nipsy | sixyearsofdreams: I had been avoiding it, but everyone seems to be buying into it at this point. |
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| 19:29.28 | sixyearsofdreams | @.@.. alsamixer was good in that area soon as i figured out how to use it |
| 19:29.34 | nipsy | JACK for professional audio and pulseaudio for everyone else. |
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| 19:29.42 | sixyearsofdreams | +D |
| 19:29.43 | sixyearsofdreams | =D |
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| 19:30.10 | nipsy | Yeah, I just hate trying to build an .asoundrc to get dmix'ed streams working correctly. It always seemed to take some finesse to make everything work just right. |
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| 19:30.47 | nipsy | Assuming your hardware doesn't magically mux audio streams for you out of the box. |
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| 19:31.45 | unkmar | I heep getting ssh: connect to host vmserver port 22: Connection refused |
| 19:32.01 | nipsy | unkmar: Sounds like sshd isn't running. |
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| 19:32.22 | cirrus] | nipsy, sorry, connection loss. dd wiped everything |
| 19:32.22 | cirrus] | (yeah! debian works so I have now no internet so I can't set everything up!) |
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| 19:32.28 | unkmar | nipsy: ah, but from the machine, ssh localhost works. |
| 19:32.38 | Cultist | Can a host's dns settings override the router it connects through? |
| 19:32.49 | nipsy | unkmar: iptables then? |
| 19:32.57 | sixyearsofdreams | Cultist yes |
| 19:33.17 | sixyearsofdreams | what about portforward nipsy? |
| 19:33.19 | unkmar | I'm specifying the system by IP address. |
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| 19:34.10 | unkmar | nipsy: I'm specifying the system by IP address. |
| 19:34.33 | unkmar | nipsy: I'm not saying your wrong cause. I don't recall how iptables function. |
| 19:34.50 | nipsy | unkmar: What does "netstat -n -l | grep :22" show on the box? |
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| 19:35.41 | nipsy | unkmar: And iptables is the normal Linux firewall, so it could be blocking the port assuming that sshd itself is listening on all interfaces. |
| 19:35.44 | unkmar | tcp and tcp6 both are effectively null. 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN |
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| 19:36.26 | unkmar | so, iptables at the ssh-server machine? |
| 19:36.27 | nipsy | unkmar: I would look at "iptables -L -n" as root then to see what your firewall ruleset looks like. |
| 19:36.40 | nipsy | unkmar: Yes, on the server itself. |
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| 19:36.53 | unkmar | ah, then that's the problem. |
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| 19:37.53 | unkmar | nipsy: I don't seen anything listed. INPUT, FORWARD, and OUTPUT are all empty so.... |
| 19:38.01 | nipsy | unkmar: You could always try "iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT" to see if that's the problem. |
| 19:38.07 | nipsy | unkmar: Hmm. |
| 19:38.12 | intx | is there a superior method than netselect-apt now? |
| 19:38.30 | nipsy | unkmar: And they are all set to ACCEPT for the policy? |
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| 19:38.34 | cirrus] | now: what should I do after install? |
| 19:38.44 | unkmar | nipsy: yes |
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| 19:39.21 | unkmar | And this is a fresh install. |
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| 19:39.38 | nipsy | And you're in the same subnet as the server? |
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| 19:40.19 | nipsy | With no intervening hardware (thinking bridged firewalls here). |
| 19:40.20 | nipsy | ? |
| 19:41.37 | unkmar | nipsy: Hmm. It is a virtual machine so I am the bridged network. Hmm. |
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| 19:41.56 | sixyearsofdreams | thats always trouble getting outside connection to your VM |
| 19:42.06 | nipsy | unkmar: Ah. Those can be tricky. |
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| 19:42.16 | sixyearsofdreams | Yes they sure can |
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| 19:42.24 | nipsy | unkmar: So you're trying to connect from the virtual host to the virtual machine running on said host? |
| 19:42.40 | unkmar | nipsy: yes |
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| 19:42.46 | sixyearsofdreams | hes trying to ssh into a VM BOX pretty much |
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| 19:43.10 | nipsy | unkmar: Which virtualization technology are you using? KVM with virt-manager or something else? |
| 19:43.11 | sixyearsofdreams | portforwarding for VM Box rough, i never went that deep into it, but it wouldnt work off the first bat for me :D |
| 19:43.18 | sixyearsofdreams | and i used Vmware abck in the day |
| 19:43.19 | unkmar | VirtualBox |
| 19:43.19 | sixyearsofdreams | back* |
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| 19:44.08 | nipsy | unkmar: Bleh. I haven't touched VirtualBox in ages. I would recommend installing virsh, qemu, and virt-manager if your hardware supports using KVM. But that's just me. Let me look at VirtualBox stuff. |
| 19:44.13 | NeO_Anderson | helloim having an issue I just ordered a new dedicated server which came with Debian |
| 19:44.14 | unkmar | It has been or miss for me. Usually hit but just to days it has started being weird. |
| 19:44.58 | NeO_Anderson | ive never used debian before so its all new to me and ive stumbled into an issue ive never had before. when attempting to install wine using apt-get it returns a few errors |
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| 19:45.15 | NeO_Anderson | failed in write on buffer copy for backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/bin/uninstaller': No space left on device |
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| 19:45.30 | nipsy | unkmar: Which type of networking are you doing in VirtualBox? |
| 19:45.32 | NeO_Anderson | an afew more of these for all packages im trying to install |
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| 19:45.47 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: Your hard drive has run out of space. |
| 19:45.48 | NeO_Anderson | im not sure how this is possible since we have a 2x2TB hdds in there :s |
| 19:45.51 | unkmar | I selected bridged. so it uses DHCP from our router. |
| 19:46.00 | NeO_Anderson | and checking 'free' |
| 19:46.00 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: Look at "df -h" and see if anything is at 100%. |
| 19:46.06 | NeO_Anderson | ok 1 moment |
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| 19:46.21 | NeO_Anderson | hm |
| 19:46.23 | NeO_Anderson | 1 is. |
| 19:46.26 | NeO_Anderson | /dev/md1 10G 10G 0 100% / |
| 19:46.33 | NeO_Anderson | rest are 0 or 2% |
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| 19:47.15 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: That's the problem. / is where everything is located by default unless you have something like /home under it. So, it's full, and basically nothing else will continue to work correctly at this point. |
| 19:47.48 | NeO_Anderson | I see |
| 19:47.57 | NeO_Anderson | so when they installed this they allocated 10GB of space for / ? |
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| 19:48.07 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: That would appear to be the case, yes. |
| 19:48.17 | NeO_Anderson | well thats a little dumb |
| 19:48.39 | NeO_Anderson | is there anything i can do to fix his? |
| 19:48.40 | NeO_Anderson | this* |
| 19:49.12 | boudiccas | NeO_Anderson: yes, try moving /home and clearing your cache of apt-get |
| 19:49.40 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: You mentioned you had other file systems. Assuming they aren't all the normal virtual ones (like /sys or /proc), then you could potentially migrate stuff off / to some of the other ones. But I would do it all from a rescue image as things might behave somewhat oddly at the moment since you have no space essentially for the OS to do anything anymore. |
| 19:49.43 | boudiccas | NeO_Anderson: you could also go back to your supplier and asking for a more realistic size of / |
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| 19:50.55 | NeO_Anderson | I dont understand why they would think that its perfactable normal to give 10GB out of 2TBs to use.. |
| 19:51.03 | val_erie | What is the command for finding the version of r-base-core? |
| 19:51.16 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: Typically the OS itself only takes up a few gigabytes. |
| 19:51.37 | NeO_Anderson | so they assumed only the OS would be in / ? |
| 19:51.46 | nipsy | val_erie: "apt-cache policy r-base-core" |
| 19:51.55 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: That's a safe assumption. |
| 19:51.57 | NeO_Anderson | where would I store my data? is there anothe rplace? :o |
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| 19:52.25 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: Like boudiccas said, a lot of people still mount things like /home from a separate partition/drive/volume/whatever. |
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| 19:52.59 | NeO_Anderson | sorry im really clueless when it comes to 'mounting' and stuff like that |
| 19:53.11 | NeO_Anderson | i tend to just stay away from it all unless i have no choice lol |
| 19:53.16 | NeO_Anderson | coz i dont really understand it :S |
| 19:53.39 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: Are you comfortable with Windows semantics? C: D:? |
| 19:53.53 | NeO_Anderson | yeah I understand windows |
| 19:54.03 | NeO_Anderson | I also understand basics of linux just not all the super techhnical stuff xD |
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| 19:54.34 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: It's the exact same. Think of / as C: (OS drive). /home could be D: where all your user stuff goes. |
| 19:54.49 | NeO_Anderson | by mounting and doing what you said did you mean that basicaly people move their 'home' dir to a second drive and 'mount' it to /home so its as if your using /home but really ur using /someotherdrive/home ? |
| 19:55.01 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: Correct. |
| 19:55.04 | NeO_Anderson | ahh |
| 19:55.06 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: It's just a big tree starting at /. |
| 19:55.17 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: The stuff underneath / may or may not be on the same physical disk/partiion. |
| 19:55.18 | NeO_Anderson | next question |
| 19:55.27 | NeO_Anderson | how do I go about doing this? |
| 19:55.42 | NeO_Anderson | as i really dont want to have to wait ages for my provider to reformat |
| 19:55.50 | nipsy | unkmar: Sorry, I couldn't find anything readily available on your netowrk issue. It should kind of just work from what I can tell. But it's been years since I messed with VirtualBox. |
| 19:55.52 | NeO_Anderson | they already havent responded to a message I sent ages ago lol |
| 19:56.03 | boudiccas | NeO_Anderson: whats your desktop environment? kde,gnome,lxde? what? |
| 19:56.21 | NeO_Anderson | I havent yet installed that yet |
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| 19:56.27 | NeO_Anderson | I installed vnc4server |
| 19:56.31 | NeO_Anderson | then tried to install wine |
| 19:56.51 | NeO_Anderson | but I believe when i installed vncserver it installed something x11 stuff too |
| 19:57.01 | NeO_Anderson | normally I have CentOS or Fedora core |
| 19:57.14 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: I'd be curious to know where all your disk usage is coming from. But whatever. You mentioned having largish drives and they appear to be in a software RAID-1. Does "vgdisplay" as root show a lot of unallocated space? |
| 19:57.14 | NeO_Anderson | and do "yum groupinstall "Gnome Desktop Environment" e.t.c |
| 19:57.18 | unkmar | nipsy: thats okay. I was looking for a. Hey stupid, you are overlooking x,y or z. And that clearly isn't the case. It's just being weird for some reason. |
| 19:57.18 | NeO_Anderson | an it does all the work for me |
| 19:57.29 | NeO_Anderson | but never had debian before so not sure how I would do that on here :S lol |
| 19:57.47 | NeO_Anderson | nipsy I think i realised where all that usage has gone |
| 19:57.52 | NeO_Anderson | its from my transfer lol |
| 19:57.55 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: tasksel is the usualy approach for yum grouplists. |
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| 19:58.05 | NeO_Anderson | i started to transfer all my data from old server to the new one |
| 19:58.19 | NeO_Anderson | and im guessing thats why its saying its full @ 10GB coz I did transfer it to /home |
| 19:58.32 | p0wn3d | Is gnome 2 the default desktop on 6.07? |
| 19:58.34 | NeO_Anderson | which was another thing I noticed, I used 'useradd' and it didnt make a home dir o.O |
| 19:58.41 | NeO_Anderson | I had to manually make it for the new |
| 19:58.43 | NeO_Anderson | user |
| 19:58.54 | unkmar | nipsy: yeah, its just being weird. I rebooted the VM.. Still no go. Rebooted again and it works. o_O |
| 19:59.05 | boudiccas | NeO_Anderson: i'd be inclined, in your cxase, to ask my supplier for a reinstall, with a larger / , and start afresh, and put it down to learning |
| 19:59.13 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: I would start with deleting everything under /home if you have a copy of it someplace else so you can address your partition issues first. |
| 19:59.27 | NeO_Anderson | yeah i can do that nipsy |
| 19:59.31 | nipsy | unkmar: Throw that garbage out and switch to a native solution. |
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| 19:59.40 | NeO_Anderson | is there anyway to simply increase the partition of / |
| 19:59.48 | NeO_Anderson | so i dont have to make a mount e.t.c ? |
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| 20:00.03 | NeO_Anderson | or is the only way to do that by doing a reinstall ? |
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| 20:00.05 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: And check vgdisplay to see if they set up everything in LVM during installation. If so, you'll probably have 1.9TB of unallocated space you can start doling out to different partitions. |
| 20:00.22 | NeO_Anderson | ok 1 moment |
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| 20:00.42 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: Not in this case. It looks like / is not using LVM (since it's mounting /dev/md0 directly). |
| 20:00.52 | cirrus] | now I have dependencies conflict between libfam0 and libgamin0. can I safely remove one of them? |
| 20:01.21 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: Although, having said that, if the rest of the drives are unpartitioned, then yes. You will simply need to do some dangerous stuff in parted or fdisk and then resize the file system. |
| 20:01.34 | nipsy | cirrus]: Yes. |
| 20:01.38 | nipsy | cirrus]: They both do the same thing. |
| 20:01.51 | NeO_Anderson | No volume groups found |
| 20:01.58 | nipsy | cirrus]: gamin is preferred I think as it doesn't require a daemon to work. |
| 20:01.59 | NeO_Anderson | is returned by that command |
| 20:02.18 | NeO_Anderson | but they said I have 2X2TB hdd |
| 20:02.20 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: Okay. Then do "fdisk -l /dev/sda" and see how much space has been allocated by partitioning. |
| 20:02.25 | NeO_Anderson | and im only seeing 1X2TB |
| 20:02.31 | NeO_Anderson | so im guessing the other 2TB is around somewhere? |
| 20:02.45 | NeO_Anderson | it is a raid so maybe thats what it is? |
| 20:03.13 | unkmar | nipsy: I've currently got lots of work today. projects to complete. However, I would like to investigate these "native" solutions of which you speak. |
| 20:03.14 | NeO_Anderson | want me to pastebin the results? |
| 20:03.15 | NeO_Anderson | its a lot |
| 20:03.34 | NeO_Anderson | Disk /dev/sda: 2000.4 GB, 2000398934016 bytes |
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| 20:03.50 | NeO_Anderson | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:03.52 | NeO_Anderson | /dev/sda1 1 243202 1953514583+ ee GPT |
| 20:03.52 | NeO_Anderson | Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary. |
| 20:03.57 | NeO_Anderson | key parts I think ^ |
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| 20:04.13 | cirrus] | nipsy, thanks |
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| 20:04.37 | nipsy | unkmar: I mean, KVM is built into the kernel at this point. The only other viable option I would even possibly recommend would be Xen. |
| 20:04.47 | nipsy | cirrus]: Yep. |
| 20:05.09 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: Okay, fdisk is useless since it looks to be a GPT label. |
| 20:05.28 | NeO_Anderson | yeah it says this: |
| 20:05.29 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: How about "parted -l"? |
| 20:05.30 | NeO_Anderson | WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted. |
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| 20:05.42 | NeO_Anderson | -bash: parted: command not found |
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| 20:05.55 | asenk | I installed this dynamic ip updater tool on my debian. It broke apt. How can i fix apt / whats wrong. Here is apt-get upgrade result: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=CYzfgsEd |
| 20:05.57 | boudiccas | NeO_Anderson: parted has to be installed first |
| 20:06.01 | NeO_Anderson | ah lol |
| 20:06.10 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: Did you already clear up some space? You're about to need it. Install the package parted "apt-get install parted". |
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| 20:06.58 | unkmar | I smell something. Who parted? |
| 20:07.00 | NeO_Anderson | yeah i did |
| 20:07.04 | NeO_Anderson | i removed all on /home |
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| 20:07.38 | NeO_Anderson | ok |
| 20:07.41 | NeO_Anderson | theres a lot of info returned |
| 20:07.46 | NeO_Anderson | from parted -l |
| 20:07.54 | m0ksha | i keep getting input/output error when writing to my external usb. i captured this from syslog: http://paste.debian.net/250342/ does anyone understand it? thanks |
| 20:07.56 | NeO_Anderson | any perticular part u want? or all of it? |
| 20:08.23 | NeO_Anderson | i pastebinned it http://pastebin.com/eFVUkHm2 |
| 20:08.41 | p0wn3d | Does anyone know how long Debian 6 will be supported? |
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| 20:09.58 | p0wn3d | We have 5000 ubuntu workstations and are considering moving to Debian |
| 20:10.16 | boudiccas | p0wn3d: one year aftyer release of wheezy |
| 20:10.34 | p0wn3d | Thank you |
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| 20:10.50 | NeO_Anderson | nipsy :o |
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| 20:11.07 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: Looks like you might have a /dev/md1 also? |
| 20:11.10 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | will jessie be out the same day that wheezy releases? (May 5th?) |
| 20:11.19 | NeO_Anderson | yeah /dev/md1 is the 10GB one |
| 20:11.20 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: What does "cat /proc/mdstat" show? |
| 20:11.22 | NeO_Anderson | 1 sec |
| 20:11.28 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: Or md2 then. |
| 20:11.40 | NeO_Anderson | md1 : active raid1 sdb1[1] sda1[0] |
| 20:11.42 | NeO_Anderson | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:11.42 | NeO_Anderson | md2 : active raid1 sdb2[1] sda2[0] |
| 20:11.42 | NeO_Anderson | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:11.43 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: They definitely partitioned the space out for it. |
| 20:11.46 | NeO_Anderson | sry |
| 20:11.58 | NeO_Anderson | yeah those 2 ^ |
| 20:11.59 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: Yeah, /dev/md2. Does that show up in /etc/fstab or "df -h" anywhere? |
| 20:12.10 | NeO_Anderson | it shows up in df -h |
| 20:12.15 | NeO_Anderson | as being 1.9T available |
| 20:12.18 | LtL | p0wn3d: 6.0 Squeeze will be supported for one year after 7.0 Wheezy is release. as far as i know.. pretty sure |
| 20:12.25 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: Where is it mounted? |
| 20:12.28 | NeO_Anderson | /dev/md2 1.9T 28G 1.7T 2% /var |
| 20:12.30 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: Ah. |
| 20:12.33 | NeO_Anderson | omg /var ? |
| 20:12.40 | NeO_Anderson | so I have 2TB of space on /var ? |
| 20:12.46 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: Yeah, that's inconvenient. |
| 20:12.47 | NeO_Anderson | an 10GB of space on everything else |
| 20:12.51 | NeO_Anderson | omg |
| 20:13.32 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: So... You could always use symlinks. But frankly, this is kind of a messy setup depending on your philosophy of such things. |
| 20:13.44 | NeO_Anderson | man |
| 20:13.47 | NeO_Anderson | :( |
| 20:14.16 | NeO_Anderson | what would you advise? |
| 20:14.29 | NeO_Anderson | I mean I'd personally rather not have all that moounting stuff lol xD |
| 20:14.42 | NeO_Anderson | is it possible to reduce /var and increase everything else ? |
| 20:14.47 | NeO_Anderson | even to just 1TB ? |
| 20:14.54 | NeO_Anderson | that'll be more than enough |
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| 20:15.04 | NeO_Anderson | so 1tb on /var an 1tb on everything else? |
| 20:15.06 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: Technically possible yes. But it's going to be a pain in the ass and somewhat dangerous. |
| 20:15.16 | NeO_Anderson | hm |
| 20:15.37 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: And since they didn't use LVM, it's going to be about as difficult as it could possibly be. |
| 20:15.52 | NeO_Anderson | lol |
| 20:15.53 | boudiccas | NeO_Anderson: like i said before, ask for a reinstall with sensible size of / |
| 20:16.02 | NeO_Anderson | damn |
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| 20:16.28 | NeO_Anderson | alright guess I have no choice :( |
| 20:16.38 | boudiccas | NeO_Anderson: you pay them for support, so let them support you! |
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| 20:17.19 | rryoumaa | any experience with btrfs vs. zfs? i want checksumming, not sure if standard debian kernels can support both? |
| 20:17.34 | m0ksha | my external usb keeps giving input/output error when writing for an extended period of time. i found these errors in the syslog file. can anyone help? thanks http://paste.debian.net/250342/ |
| 20:17.55 | nipsy | rryoumaa: The general consensus I've seen on BTRFS is that you shouldn't trust it with anything important. |
| 20:18.12 | rryoumaa | ok |
| 20:18.24 | cirdan | ~moo |
| 20:18.24 | apt | ACTION mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass |
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| 20:18.45 | nipsy | rryoumaa: And the consensus I've seen for ZFS is that it might cause your kernel to panic sometimes (rarely), but your data is usually never at risk otherwise. |
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| 20:18.49 | cirdan | hmm |
| 20:18.49 | sixyearsofdreams | @.@ |
| 20:18.50 | nipsy | rryoumaa: I use ZFS personally. |
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| 20:19.05 | rryoumaa | how do you use it in debian? |
| 20:19.06 | sixyearsofdreams | rolling on the floor laughing @ apt |
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| 20:19.16 | sixyearsofdreams | mooooo |
| 20:19.20 | nipsy | Through the ZFS on Linux Debian repository. |
| 20:19.31 | cirdan | sigh |
| 20:19.35 | cirdan | apt has it wrong |
| 20:19.47 | nipsy | m0ksha: Looks like your drive is failing. |
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| 20:21.06 | cirdan | apt no moo is <reply> mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 20:21.06 | apt | okay, cirdan |
| 20:21.10 | cirdan | ~moo |
| 20:21.11 | apt | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 20:21.15 | cirdan | woot. |
| 20:21.25 | cirdan | wonder why it got cutooff |
| 20:21.46 | cirdan | considering my bot learned it from apt&dpkg |
| 20:21.56 | NeO_Anderson | thanks for the help nipsy and boudiccas :) |
| 20:22.03 | cirdan | haha... |
| 20:22.05 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: Good luck! |
| 20:22.07 | cirdan | dpkg: moo |
| 20:22.08 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo; aplay /usr/lib/libreoffice/share/gallery/sounds/cow.wav |
| 20:22.19 | NeO_Anderson | ive sent them a message, probably wont reply till tomorrow I reckon now. |
| 20:22.29 | cirdan | shame there's no sound, or office, on my debian server :-) |
| 20:22.51 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: I would ask them to make everything LVM based and unless there is a good reason to do so, give most of everything to /. |
| 20:24.03 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: The usual setup I've seen nowadays is to have a physical /boot partition (possibly on top of software RAID-1), and then everything else inside LVM (possibly on top of software RAID-1 also), including swap. It's just easier at that point to manipulate things. |
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| 20:31.05 | cirrus] | is there alternative for scp that is faster? |
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| 20:31.33 | nipsy | cirrus]: Have you tried "scp -c arcfour"? |
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| 20:31.56 | cirrus] | -c? no |
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| 20:32.07 | nipsy | cirrus]: It's much faster (albeit somewhat less secure) than the default (which is computationally expensive). |
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| 20:32.28 | cirrus] | ok |
| 20:32.36 | cirrus] | wait, is arcfour param? |
| 20:32.46 | nipsy | cirrus]: -c blowfish would be faster too I believe, by quite a bit. But arcfour is usually the fastest while still being encrypted. |
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| 20:32.57 | nipsy | cirrus]: -c is cipher and arcfour is the specific cipher. |
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| 20:33.06 | cirrus] | ok |
| 20:33.09 | cirrus] | let's see |
| 20:33.11 | sharky | cirrus], if you need to copy part of content rsync -avzPe ssh /local/dir/ user@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:/remote/dir |
| 20:33.42 | nipsy | You can use rsync if you need to preserve attributes and such. |
| 20:33.51 | cantstanya | if wheezy becomes stable, and sid remains unstable, what's the next testing called? |
| 20:34.00 | cantstanya | is it wakka flocka flame? |
| 20:34.07 | nipsy | According to the channel topic, it's jessie. |
| 20:34.18 | cantstanya | o |
| 20:34.24 | flypp | sid is always sid |
| 20:34.45 | cantstanya | I thought it would be wakka flocka flame honestly |
| 20:34.49 | nipsy | lol |
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| 20:35.40 | sharky | nipsy, do you know a good tutorial for setting ZFS on debian, I saw that you are using it |
| 20:36.08 | nipsy | sharky: The ZFS on Linux site has good basic instructions on how to start using it. I wouldn't use it as your root file system or anything. |
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| 20:36.33 | nipsy | sharky: And if you're using ACL's at all, don't even bother. They aren't supported yet unfortunately (that's the only real downside for me). |
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| 20:37.21 | val_erie | where is python-rpy installed in debian by default? |
| 20:37.23 | nipsy | But feel free to ask questions if you have any. Once you get the packages installed now from their Debian repository, it's a snap. |
| 20:37.28 | sharky | nipsy, so I can use it as external storage, just as a mounted partition to store big things or big number of things |
| 20:37.43 | nipsy | sharky: That's exactly what I'm doing (8x 2TB raidz3). |
| 20:37.55 | nipsy | sharky: SSD for the actual OS. |
| 20:38.00 | sharky | nipsy, nice |
| 20:38.32 | sharky | is that some kind of NAS server |
| 20:38.44 | nipsy | Nice except that drive prices haven't really dropped too much lately and sizes haven't grown that quickly yet and I'm running out of space! :) |
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| 20:38.52 | nipsy | Yeah, my home file server. |
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| 20:39.24 | sharky | and all drives on SATA? |
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| 20:40.27 | PrinceAMD | hi guys how to disable glx in xorg? |
| 20:41.11 | nipsy | sharky: I bought an LSI SAS2008 controller. |
| 20:41.21 | nipsy | sharky: It wasn't terribly expensive and it works great. |
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| 20:42.41 | sharky | nipsy, I have read long long discussions about hardware vs software RAID controllers |
| 20:42.46 | nipsy | sharky: It's a 9211-8i. IBM has some cards that are essentially exactly the same for even less. |
| 20:42.58 | sharky | nipsy, how is your doing? |
| 20:42.59 | m0ksha | nipsy, any idea why my drive is failing? |
| 20:43.31 | nipsy | sharky: I'm indifferent. I had a 3ware 9650 doing hardware RAID before and used ext4 directly on top of that. But when I bought the 9211-8i I decided to switch to ZFS since it's really the only decent file system for massive data sets. |
| 20:43.59 | nipsy | m0ksha: Bad sectors most likely. You might look into running some SMART tests on it. |
| 20:44.51 | sharky | nipsy, yup I want to try ZFS too, I was playing with some scripts here downloading like a million files and really have seen a difference of the file systems |
| 20:44.53 | nipsy | sharky: And for work we pretty much only use the much larger Dell branded LSI RAID controllers. But I wouldn't waste my own money on one. The 3ware 9650 was as far as I could justify the cost. |
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| 20:45.32 | sharky | nipsy, ext3 is great and stable file system, but with a million files in one directory it becomes slooooow |
| 20:45.59 | sharky | I put XFS on external hard drive, and it is much better, one can work with the files |
| 20:46.00 | nipsy | sharky: Yeah, they've done a lot to speed up ext[234] over the years. But having checksums on everything is really the only way to go I think. |
| 20:46.33 | sharky | ZFS is very strong on integrity |
| 20:46.40 | nipsy | Yep. |
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| 20:47.51 | jgornick | Hey guys, when creating a .deb with dpkg, can I create it without the preinst and prerm control files, or are they absolutely required? |
| 20:47.51 | sharky | I was good surprised from XFS too actually, quite fast with that amount of files |
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| 20:49.35 | nipsy | jgornick: Are you just bundling up some already compiled binaries as an installable package? |
| 20:49.57 | jgornick | nipsy, I'm packaging up a web app, so not compiled binary. |
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| 20:50.18 | rryoumaa | long ago i did a pretty thorough testing of the then-available file systems. i stuck with ext 3 but look forward to btrfs and zfs. |
| 20:50.20 | nipsy | jgornick: Okay, but you don't need it compiling anything, right? You just want something you can deploy as a managed package? |
| 20:50.40 | jgornick | nipsy, No, I don't need it to compile anything. |
| 20:51.43 | nipsy | jgornick: Look at http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/30303/how-to-create-a-deb-file-manually under "Making a binary package". |
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| 20:52.10 | nipsy | jgornick: That's basically the minimal stuff you need (a file system structure with DEBIAN at the root, and yes, a control file specifying a few lines). |
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| 20:52.30 | jgornick | nipsy, great! Thanks! |
| 20:52.32 | nipsy | jgornick: But you shouldn't need scripts otherwise. |
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| 20:54.25 | benedikt | I have a usb dac/headphone amp that i use with debian (and ubuntu, on another location). It doesn't work very well with Debian (much better with ubuntu) so i thought I would try to install pulseaudio. That did not help and now i'm left with no sound. What is the best way to handle a usb dac with debian? |
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| 20:55.04 | nipsy | benedikt: Can you see everything in pavucontrol once you have pulseaudio up and running? |
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| 20:55.25 | benedikt | what do you qualify as "up and running"? |
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| 20:55.57 | benedikt | didnt know about pavucontrol |
| 20:56.12 | nipsy | benedikt: As in, you're logged into a graphical UI, and running "ps axfu | grep pulseaudio" shows a process running under your uid. |
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| 20:56.40 | benedikt | nipsy: pulseaudio process is running as me |
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| 20:56.57 | nipsy | Then I'd check pavucontrol and see if you can figure out where your sound is going. |
| 20:57.31 | benedikt | turned off the built in audio in pavucontrol and now it works |
| 20:57.33 | nipsy | You should be able to see it coming in from whichever apps are producing sound and then get it to the right sink for some output as well. |
| 20:57.39 | nipsy | Cool. |
| 20:57.42 | benedikt | any idea what "lock channels together" means? |
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| 20:58.07 | nipsy | No clue off the top of my head. Left and right channel balance maybe? |
| 20:58.11 | EmleyMoor | benedikt: Keep left and right at same level - not split them and change the balance |
| 20:58.25 | benedikt | nipsy: pavucontrol doesn't show what apps are playnor nor any "sinks". (Although I do understand these concepts, they just don't exist in pavucontrol) |
| 20:58.30 | benedikt | nipsy: thats my guess too |
| 20:58.32 | benedikt | EmleyMoor: Why? |
| 20:59.02 | EmleyMoor | benedikt: That's what it's for. A useful feature, as you guessed. |
| 20:59.05 | nipsy | benedikt: That's weird. The Playback tab always shows me my sources. |
| 20:59.32 | nipsy | Assuming there is something actually producing sound at the moment that is. |
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| 20:59.43 | benedikt | nipsy: there wasn't :) My bad, now it is. |
| 20:59.43 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm... wheezy may release on Star Wars weekend? Interesting... |
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| 21:00.37 | zinx | EmleyMoor: i figured Disney would have fired everyone by now |
| 21:00.51 | nipsy | Starting with George Lucas. |
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| 21:01.06 | zinx | i don't think he went w/ the company |
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| 21:01.42 | nipsy | That's a shame. I'd like to see him fired for being an incompetent boob. |
| 21:01.51 | nipsy | And ruining Star Wars. |
| 21:02.16 | sixyearsofdreams | sw willl neva be the same :( |
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| 21:02.59 | nipsy | The fact that I have to download a version of the original movies unmolested versus simply buying them on Blu-ray directly is all the proof you need. |
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| 21:03.24 | sixyearsofdreams | heh |
| 21:03.32 | zinx | nipsy: you trying to say Han shot first or something? |
| 21:03.37 | nipsy | Sorry, I should say, I would have to do that if I wanted them unmolested. |
| 21:03.44 | nipsy | Hell yes he shot first! |
| 21:03.47 | nipsy | He's a rogue! |
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| 21:04.14 | nipsy | And I don't mean a D&D character class. :) |
| 21:05.04 | NeO_Anderson | hello nipsy :o |
| 21:05.18 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: What's up? |
| 21:05.20 | NeO_Anderson | I have some interesting news to share |
| 21:05.23 | zinx | next you'll be telling me the guards in E.T. were carring guns, not radios |
| 21:05.32 | NeO_Anderson | after going through countless of pages at my hosts site |
| 21:05.46 | nipsy | zinx: Are you kidding me? Is Spielberg guilty too? |
| 21:05.49 | NeO_Anderson | ive discovered some kind of 'manager' thing that allows me to reboot/reinstall os from what it looks like |
| 21:06.00 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: Sounds handy. |
| 21:06.08 | NeO_Anderson | however it does ask me to manually specify everything partition wise which im more or less clueless with |
| 21:06.10 | zinx | nipsy: i expect it was out of his hands by then :P |
| 21:06.22 | nipsy | zinx: I don't know... Two peas in a pod those guys. |
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| 21:06.50 | nipsy | NeO_Anderson: Well, what are your options? |
| 21:07.36 | zinx | nipsy: i guess you're right, it was him :< |
| 21:07.59 | NeO_Anderson | 1 moment |
| 21:08.01 | nipsy | Well, not surprising seeing how bad the last Indiana Jones' movie was. |
| 21:08.04 | NeO_Anderson | ill have to manualy type the stuff |
| 21:08.16 | nipsy | What's the format exactly? |
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| 21:08.50 | NeO_Anderson | / PRIMARY ext4 1 20000 |
| 21:08.50 | NeO_Anderson | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:08.50 | NeO_Anderson | / Home PRIMARY ext4 1 1979488 |
| 21:08.51 | nipsy | You might need to pastebin that or an image again or point me to a URL. |
| 21:09.08 | nipsy | Oh, well, that's easy enough. |
| 21:09.10 | NeO_Anderson | then it presents me with an option to add more partitions |
| 21:09.34 | nipsy | Just get rid of everything but the first two and make the numbers much bigger for /. |
| 21:09.56 | NeO_Anderson | so delete the /home entry? |
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| 21:10.08 | nipsy | I wouldn't complicate your drive setup with multiple partitions. |
| 21:10.16 | NeO_Anderson | ah |
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| 21:10.46 | nipsy | But you definitely need the swap space. |
| 21:10.58 | nipsy | And since you have so much drive space, you might as well make swap at least 2-4G. |
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| 21:12.31 | NeO_Anderson | so I should make / like 1.5TB ? |
| 21:12.38 | NeO_Anderson | and then add swap with the remaining ? |
| 21:12.42 | NeO_Anderson | oh wait |
| 21:12.45 | NeO_Anderson | no that'd be insane |
| 21:12.50 | NeO_Anderson | 500gb to swap |
| 21:12.51 | NeO_Anderson | lol |
| 21:13.04 | nipsy | Well, it looks like you specify the size. |
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| 21:13.33 | NeO_Anderson | do I not need to specify /var and /etc and all those other dir? |
| 21:13.33 | nipsy | If you're unsure exactly what the biggest number can actually be, it's safe enough to shoot under what it ought to be and then grow everything once you have a functioning operating system again on the machine. |
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| 21:13.57 | zinx | NeO_Anderson: only if you want them on separate filesystems |
| 21:13.58 | NeO_Anderson | ah right the thing tells me how much in MB i have free to use |
| 21:14.05 | nipsy | No. They'll be on / unless you specify separate partitions for them (which is really an old school way of partitioning and completely unnecessary in this case). |
| 21:14.18 | NeO_Anderson | ah I see |
| 21:14.23 | NeO_Anderson | ok |
| 21:14.33 | NeO_Anderson | my last host did that an gave me 50mb on /boot |
| 21:14.34 | nipsy | Okay, so make / 1.96TB and swap .04TB (or 4GB) or whatever. |
| 21:14.39 | NeO_Anderson | struggled when it came to upgrading kerneles... |
| 21:14.43 | NeO_Anderson | -e |
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| 21:14.55 | NeO_Anderson | ok 1 sec |
| 21:14.57 | nipsy | I usally do /boot at 1GB if you're going to make a separate partition for it. |
| 21:15.01 | nipsy | It's safest to do that honestly. |
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| 21:15.07 | NeO_Anderson | I hope this doesnt remove mess up my ispconfig 3, iget that for free lol |
| 21:15.30 | NeO_Anderson | is tehre any perticular order I should do this in? |
| 21:15.31 | nipsy | I have no idea what that is, so... |
| 21:15.39 | NeO_Anderson | ie swap first, then the / an then any extra? |
| 21:15.45 | NeO_Anderson | or boot first then swap then /? |
| 21:15.52 | nipsy | Um, usually you want /boot first, and then everything else doesn't matter. |
| 21:16.00 | NeO_Anderson | alrightie cheers |
| 21:16.15 | nipsy | Yep. |
| 21:16.24 | NeO_Anderson | ext3 or ext4 for boot? |
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| 21:16.33 | nipsy | ext4 for everything unless you know you need something else. |
| 21:16.38 | NeO_Anderson | ah ok |
| 21:16.40 | NeO_Anderson | cool |
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| 21:20.57 | NeO_Anderson | ok its doing stuff lol |
| 21:21.15 | NeO_Anderson | fingers crossed |
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| 21:21.37 | NeO_Anderson | and this litle thing is quite good, no wonder the support is only 9am-6pm if customers can do all the stuff themselves |
| 21:21.48 | NeO_Anderson | but they really should make it more clear I didnt know I could do any of this.. |
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| 21:22.39 | nipsy | Well, if you do it wrong, you can always do it again. |
| 21:23.18 | NeO_Anderson | yeah thats the good thing :D |
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| 21:23.34 | NeO_Anderson | its like being at the machine with a livecd but without actually being at the machine with a livecd lol |
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| 21:23.56 | NeO_Anderson | lets just hope the process follows through and works lol |
| 21:23.56 | LinuxGuy2020 | Hey guys I have a MyBookLive here that I killed by trying to apt-get upgrade the Debian Squeeze install on it that it came with and I bricked it. I tore it open and have access to the drive to put it into my PC. Is there any way to get some kind of virtual machine on here that will allow me to install Debian PowerPC version and make my own custom build for this network drive? I want to at least try. |
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| 21:24.48 | rryoumaa | we are recommending to have a single partition for root and home now? |
| 21:25.13 | nipsy | rryoumaa: For normal people? I certainly would. |
| 21:25.30 | jhutchins_wk | LinuxGuy2020: debbootstrap |
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| 21:25.38 | rryoumaa | what are the relevant issues? other than running out of space. |
| 21:25.40 | nipsy | It's already confusing enough for most. |
| 21:25.44 | zykotick9 | LinuxGuy2020: i'd look into qemu, not sure about the powerpc parts, but it can boot a physical drive easily enough. |
| 21:25.44 | jhutchins_wk | !debootstrap |
| 21:25.45 | dpkg | debootstrap can create a basic Debian system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a <chroot>. It is key to installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux system, ask me about <install guide>. http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Installing_new_Debian_systems_with_debootstrap |
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| 21:26.31 | jhutchins_wk | NeO_Anderson: You realize that you could have just ignored the boot partition and used a /boot folder on your main partition? |
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| 21:26.57 | nipsy | jhutchins_wk: The real issue was that he had / at 10G and /var was the rest of it. |
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| 21:27.41 | nipsy | And / was already full when he started copying stuff over from his other machine. |
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| 21:28.36 | nipsy | And unless he was going to be running a dedicated database or web server or something, that's probably not what he wanted. |
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| 21:30.29 | LinuxGuy2020 | zykotick9: Yeah! Ive never used qemu hopefully its easy and works for my needs. Says it emulates powerPC so looks good so far. Thanks. |
| 21:30.31 | jhutchins_wk | If people understood how archaic the common partitioning scheme is they'd never use it. It's from when hard drives were as big as laundry machines. |
| 21:30.40 | nipsy | Exactly. |
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| 21:31.28 | nipsy | I use to keep my partitions all separate into the mid 2000's and finally I was like, what the hell am I doing this extra work for? It's not like I've ever needed it for anything. |
| 21:32.10 | nipsy | At work, sure, we have a bunch of disparate disk shelves that get added over time. But for home stuff? Hell no. |
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| 21:32.21 | NeO_Anderson | Niamkik http://pastebin.com/RBkxwV1B |
| 21:32.21 | jhutchins_wk | There are a few reasons it can make sense to partition, but I don't think I've ever heard the real reasons cited. |
| 21:32.39 | shivshnkr | help |
| 21:32.39 | NeO_Anderson | :D |
| 21:32.41 | zykotick9 | LinuxGuy2020: i use kvm (which is qemu with kernel hooks) for most of my VMing. but i wouldn't call it "easy" ;) best of luck. |
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| 21:33.13 | nipsy | You can potentially avoid having an unbootable machine if only the sectors in a non-critical portion of say /home fail. But whatever. Use software RAID. :) |
| 21:33.34 | NeO_Anderson | :o |
| 21:33.56 | NeO_Anderson | what do u mean? :O |
| 21:34.00 | NeO_Anderson | I did something wrong? |
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| 21:34.33 | nipsy | No, we're just talking about partitioning schemes. |
| 21:34.38 | NeO_Anderson | oh :o |
| 21:34.39 | NeO_Anderson | xD |
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| 21:37.04 | yehoshua | hello |
| 21:37.29 | nipsy | o/ |
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| 22:04.48 | NeO_Anderson | thanks nipsy fora ll your help :) |
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| 22:12.23 | yehoshua | anonymous |
| 22:13.39 | LinuxGuy2020 | Ok so Im using qemu to install debian powerpc version. Its installing to a virtual hard drive file in my home folder. Can I use dd to image that file back to the drive and boot from it or is there a better way? |
| 22:14.14 | LinuxGuy2020 | Image to my NAS drive I mean to see if it will bot it up. |
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| 22:14.57 | zykotick9 | LinuxGuy2020: i hope you're using "raw" format, if you, then probably you can just dd it. (DON'T take my word though!) |
| 22:15.24 | LinuxGuy2020 | zykotick9:Oh o maybe ill start over and use raw then. |
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| 22:16.26 | zykotick9 | LinuxGuy2020: it should also be possible to install directly to the drive (using qemu) |
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| 22:27.02 | LinuxGuy2020 | What package needs to be installed in order to have SSH access to this NAS over the network. Does Debian have that preinstalled out of the box? |
| 22:27.17 | PerfDave | LinuxGuy2020: apt-cache search ssh server |
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| 22:27.46 | LinuxGuy2020 | PerfDave: K thanks |
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| 22:28.15 | zykotick9 | LinuxGuy2020: fyi, there is an "ssh" metapackage that installs both client and server |
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| 22:31.28 | LinuxGuy2020 | zykotick9: Gotcha |
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| 23:02.08 | Stameni | hello, i have reboot my computer using (sudo shutdown now -r ) and now it says "EROR: No configuration file found; No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive foun!" boot: |
| 23:02.24 | Stameni | so i cannot boot to my system |
| 23:02.32 | Stameni | what shoul i do ? |
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| 23:04.50 | zykotick9 | Stameni: try "sudo shutdown -r now" instead |
| 23:05.26 | PerfDave | zykotick9: I think the point is more that Stameni's boot loader is broken. |
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| 23:05.41 | Stameni | zykotick9, my usb was inserted into usb slot and earlier i set usb as first bootable device :) |
| 23:05.46 | Stameni | PerfDave, |
| 23:05.49 | zykotick9 | Stameni: oh, perhaps your not in the regular debian environment, my bad. PerfDave i was slow, but figured it out ;) |
| 23:05.49 | PerfDave | Stameni: Which version of Debian have you installed, and how did you install it? |
| 23:06.02 | truexfan81 | hold on |
| 23:06.13 | truexfan81 | Stameni: is this a live usb with persistance? |
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| 23:06.26 | Stameni | truexfan81, no, thats why it reported error |
| 23:06.32 | truexfan81 | oh weird |
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| 23:06.40 | Stameni | i'v removed it and now its ok |
| 23:06.46 | truexfan81 | ah ok good |
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| 23:07.27 | Stameni | just didnt figure it out right away |
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| 23:08.23 | truexfan81 | i've had live usb sticks do that b4, if it was one of those i was going to tell you to type live -persistant , then the usb would boot on up |
| 23:08.42 | truexfan81 | but its not one so no need |
| 23:09.19 | Stameni | truexfan81, tnx anyway :) |
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| 23:12.37 | codygman | How do I make my default hibernation method use shutdown instead of platform? |
| 23:14.07 | codygman | I guess I could make a script to do: # echo platform > /sys/power/disk # echo disk > /sys/power/state, but I thought there might be a place to configure it |
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| 23:27.23 | THE_GFR|WORK | hey everyone I have an SIL3132 eSATA card that should work with linux and do FIS switching, but it won't, I am running Linux Mint, any ideas? |
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| 23:27.31 | slooth | Hello. I keep getting: eth0: Link is down . eth0: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full duplex. eth0: Flow control is on for TX and on for RX. eth0: EEE is disabled eth0: Link is down. And these 5 messages go on and on.. I use Broadcom BCM57785 -ath9k, Debian Wheezy. The driver is tg3 (tigon). Any ideas? |
| 23:27.38 | THE_GFR|WORK | 3.2.0-23-generic |
| 23:27.44 | Towzzer | link down means it's not plugged in |
| 23:27.47 | Towzzer | it can't detect the link |
| 23:28.00 | Towzzer | or |
| 23:28.07 | Towzzer | try turning on auto negotiation |
| 23:28.13 | THE_GFR|WORK | anyone have any ideas? |
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| 23:28.48 | truexfan81 | "Link is down . eth0: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full duplex." sounds to me like the connection is dropping out and reconnecting |
| 23:29.21 | slooth | It's not physical, I can assure you this - I have another laptop, same cable plugged in there = works fine |
| 23:29.42 | slooth | I'll try the ethtool idea of Towzzer |
| 23:29.55 | truexfan81 | ^ |
| 23:30.13 | truexfan81 | if that doesn't work, see if there is a broadcom firmware you can install |
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| 23:30.56 | slooth | I already have it installed, the Debian ones. I checked manually - it is the latest |
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| 23:31.52 | truexfan81 | you have firmware-linuxfree and -nonfree installed? |
| 23:32.29 | Towzzer | check the other device to see if it's auto |
| 23:32.50 | slooth | I have nonfree installed |
| 23:32.53 | Quest | is there a software that (irrespective of OS. windows or linux) can show all the desktops of clients in the server app (in one screen with small mini screens of clients )at the server and the person at server can even control the mouse or keyboard of clients after selecting one? |
| 23:33.35 | slooth | Yes, it was the negotation. ethtool -s eth0 autoneg off = fixed it. Thanks for your replies Towzzer and truexfan81 ! |
| 23:34.05 | truexfan81 | autoneg off fixed it? |
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| 23:34.13 | truexfan81 | huh |
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| 23:34.47 | slooth | Yes.. very weird. 5 hours ago, I haven't had this problem and afaik I didn't mess with any NIC support. |
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| 23:40.02 | jmisse | hello, I have a dedicated server with debian and for some reason i can't access via ssh anymore, i get a connection refused error,their technical support won't help me because it is "my fault". I rebooted the server but the error persists, any ideas of what could i check or do? It is very obvious that my sysadmin skills are close to null :p |
| 23:40.27 | PerfDave | jmisse: How can you reboot the server? |
| 23:40.50 | jmisse | via a web control panel |
| 23:41.16 | PerfDave | OK, and what does that do? Do you get a remote serial connection? Can you see boot logs? |
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| 23:43.35 | jmisse | PerfDave: i'm searching for something like that, i'm not sure of what is a remote serial connection |
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| 23:44.35 | PerfDave | jmisse: Ask your hosting provider if you have one. Basically if you can't get to the point where you can type commands into the server, either before or after boot, then you're screwed ;) |
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| 23:46.24 | jmisse | PerfDave: oh you meant like a ssh from the web, i cant see any hmm |
| 23:47.50 | Quest | is there a software that (irrespective of OS. windows or linux) can show all the desktops of clients in the server app (in one screen with small mini screens of clients )at the server and the person at server can even control the mouse or keyboard of clients after selecting one? |
| 23:48.08 | jmisse | PerfDave: thanks i'll try to contact them again... |
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| 23:50.37 | PerfDave | jmisse: Not quite - it doesnt' require the server to have any network connectivity. |
| 23:51.58 | PerfDave | jmisse: I have a VM hosted by a company, and I can SSH to the VM host and get a "remote serial" connection which is much the same as sitting at a physical console to read boot logs, select kernel boot options, and log in. |
| 23:52.19 | PerfDave | jmisse: But if it's a dedicated server they'll need to have actually wired up a serial cable for that to happen, I guess. |
| 23:52.31 | PerfDave | Or maybe some kind of ILO connectivity, I dunno. |
| 23:52.41 | PerfDave | Anyway, I need to go to bed, hope you get it sorted :) |
| 23:52.50 | jmisse | oh hmm well i am really out of my nature here |
| 23:53.09 | jmisse | i just knew how to access the server using putty and change some apache configs hehe |
| 23:53.43 | jmisse | thanks |
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