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| 00:03.28 | mumpitzel | different how? |
| 00:04.43 | themill | rryoumaa: there's already an updated kernel since the 6.0.7 netinst iirc |
| 00:05.30 | themill | ,v linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 |
| 00:05.32 | judd | Package: linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 on i386 -- squeeze-updates: 2.6.32-39; squeeze-security: 2.6.32-44; squeeze: 2.6.32-48; squeeze-proposed-updates: 2.6.32-48squeeze1; squeeze-security: 2.6.32-48squeeze1 |
| 00:05.32 | themill | (there is) |
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| 00:07.22 | DUKENUKEM | hey guys i tried to do an aptitude full-upgrade to go from squeeze -> wheezy, and it failed when trying to configure default-jre. anyway i can resume this upgrade and or skip this? if not, where are all those packages downloaded to? i dont want them just sitting there taking up space |
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| 00:07.59 | rryoumaa | themill: since around when? i have a netinst from a couple of months ago. |
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| 00:08.31 | themill | "a couple of months ago" isn't really helpful to me |
| 00:08.49 | mumpitzel | DUKENUKEM: apt-get clean and the downloaded .deb files are gone |
| 00:08.53 | mumpitzel | ,versions default-jre |
| 00:08.54 | judd | Package: default-jre on i386 -- squeeze: 1:1.6-40; sid: 1:1.6-47; wheezy: 1:1.6-47; experimental: 1:1.7-48 |
| 00:09.17 | DUKENUKEM | mumpitzel: do i have to clean ? i mean it took an hour to download all these packages |
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| 00:09.28 | mumpitzel | DUKENUKEM: you can resume but need to fix whatever balks. can't say anything more without actual error messages |
| 00:09.40 | DUKENUKEM | mumpitzel: ok how do i resume and get the error messages |
| 00:09.46 | mumpitzel | you don't have to clean and when you resume apt-get it won't download them again |
| 00:10.00 | mumpitzel | do the apt-get dist-upgrade again |
| 00:10.07 | themill | rryoumaa: the last kernel update looks like it was updated «Sun, 24 Feb 2013 14:34:44 -0700» and that kernel is in squeeze/updates and not yet in squeeze. That means the squeeze netinst iso does not contain that kernel. |
| 00:10.21 | DUKENUKEM | mumpitzel: its downloading them all again |
| 00:10.37 | themill | "clean" isn't going to help here at all :( |
| 00:10.42 | rryoumaa | themill: thanks. i presume all the hw detection etc. is the same? |
| 00:11.07 | themill | rryoumaa: yes this was an update for CVE-2013-0871 and CVE-2013-0231 |
| 00:11.18 | DUKENUKEM | mumpitzel: actually this isnt all of them, its like another set of 100 or so |
| 00:11.43 | themill | DUKENUKEM: if it fails again, please pastebin the entire output of the apt run for us |
| 00:11.53 | mumpitzel | DUKENUKEM: have you run apt-get clean? |
| 00:11.58 | themill | don't |
| 00:11.59 | DUKENUKEM | mumpitzel: no |
| 00:12.06 | DUKENUKEM | i didnt run a clean |
| 00:12.22 | mumpitzel | then it won't download them again |
| 00:12.24 | DUKENUKEM | i first tried using aptitude full-upgrade (i dont normally use aptitude, but wasnt sure if i had to when going from stable -> testing) |
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| 00:12.36 | DUKENUKEM | that failed on configuring default-jre |
| 00:12.42 | DUKENUKEM | i am now running apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 00:12.50 | DUKENUKEM | and its downloading about 200 more packages |
| 00:12.53 | themill | DUKENUKEM: the release notes actually tell you to do the exact opposite -- don't use aptitude for squeeze->wheezy but use apt-get instead |
| 00:13.03 | DUKENUKEM | themill: ah fuck |
| 00:13.10 | DUKENUKEM | Get:195 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main python-gdata all 2.0.17+dfsg-1 [517 kB] |
| 00:13.13 | DUKENUKEM | Fetched 77.3 MB in 2min 52s (448 kB/s) |
| 00:13.16 | DUKENUKEM | E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'default-jre'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) |
| 00:13.17 | themill | no harm done though by the sounds of it |
| 00:13.19 | DUKENUKEM | root@hax:/etc/apt# |
| 00:13.22 | DUKENUKEM | sorry for the paste |
| 00:13.52 | themill | DUKENUKEM: what arch is this? |
| 00:13.59 | DUKENUKEM | amd64 |
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| 00:15.02 | pacop | Hello. I have just upgraded to wheezy and , at first, html5 videos worked great. Now they have no sound. I have /etc/asound.conf with OSS4 and all other applications sound nice. Any idea? I have tried with chromium and iceweasel |
| 00:15.09 | DUKENUKEM | themill: http://pastebin.com/hKKEXkJk that is full apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 00:15.30 | DUKENUKEM | themill: but it is mostly just a list of packages and downloads, and then immediately after downloading that default-jre thing fails |
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| 00:16.22 | themill | DUKENUKEM: yeah -- give me a couple of minutes to think about this one. I'm trying to work out if this is a new bug or an old one that was supposed to be fixed (but isn't) |
| 00:16.34 | DUKENUKEM | themill: thanks i really appreciate it |
| 00:17.28 | zykotick9 | pacop: i'm NOT sure if it's related to your issue, but i've had a lot of issues with wheezy changing the order of sound devices on reboots. seemed to me, that only card 0 as listed by "cat /proc/asound/cards" would work with iceweasel+flash, not sure if that affects html5 or not? |
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| 00:19.22 | pacop | I don't want to install flash, the strange thing is that first it worked, now I tried to change chromium net config and no wit doesn't work in iceweasel nor chromium |
| 00:19.30 | pacop | I'm with OSS4, much better sound quality |
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| 00:20.12 | themill | (except that it doesn't work) |
| 00:20.46 | themill | DUKENUKEM: does "apt-get -s -oDebug::pkgPackageManager=true dist-upgrade" produce any extra output for us? |
| 00:21.41 | DUKENUKEM | themill: http://pastebin.com/HnrChdg6 new error |
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| 00:23.43 | DUKENUKEM | themill: is this a correct sources.list ? http://pastebin.com/Jyw6PtfF |
| 00:24.04 | themill | DUKENUKEM: can you copy your current /var/lib/dpkg/status somewhere for us -- we might want it for reference later to debug this properly. I guess our current priority for you is to force our way through this upgrade and then later we can work out how to deal with this in general |
| 00:24.23 | DUKENUKEM | themill: ok copied |
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| 00:25.26 | themill | ok, so there are a few things that we've tried in the past that usually help solve this... let's try the easiest thing which is to add a mirror for squeeze back into your sources list (so «deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main») and then apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 00:25.54 | DUKENUKEM | themill: anywhere in the sources file ? |
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| 00:26.26 | kyconquers | how do I change a user's default file ownership so that created files are owned by user:groupA not user:user? |
| 00:27.57 | Theoden | When wheezy becomes 'stable', testing/Jessie will be the same as wheezy initially - is that correct? |
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| 00:28.22 | themill | DUKENUKEM: yeah |
| 00:28.28 | DUKENUKEM | themill: idid that, but now instead of it erroring on configuration for "default-jre" it errors on "openjdk-6-jre" |
| 00:28.36 | themill | Theoden: correct |
| 00:28.39 | themill | DUKENUKEM: bugger |
| 00:28.53 | DUKENUKEM | themill: should i just remove openjdk6-jre |
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| 00:29.19 | Theoden | themill: Ok - and will it remain as stable as wheezy or will it become rough when new packages roll in? |
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| 00:30.40 | themill | Theoden: it will be a very bumpy ride for a few months |
| 00:31.51 | DUKENUKEM | themill: btw the apt-get update failed and i had to comment out a backports line in the sources.list |
| 00:31.53 | Theoden | themill: So I should continue to track Wheext and not testing then. |
| 00:32.01 | themill | Theoden: yes good plan |
| 00:32.04 | Arrowmaster | i cant wait for the bumpy ride, need mesa9 asap |
| 00:32.10 | themill | DUKENUKEM: oh.. can you pastebin the entire output for me? |
| 00:34.48 | DUKENUKEM | themill: i did apt-get remove openjdk-6-jre and it removed it and installed another one. now it seems the dist-upgrade is working |
| 00:35.12 | themill | ok, so you could upgrade just the java parts separately |
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| 00:35.34 | DUKENUKEM | themill: ok |
| 00:35.35 | themill | (I'd still love to see a pastebin to make sure I understand what it has done) |
| 00:35.42 | DUKENUKEM | themill: did you want my dpkg status from when it wasnt working? |
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| 00:40.51 | Towzzer | damn, those alien bastards are gonna pay for messing up my ride |
| 00:41.05 | themill | DUKENUKEM: can you pastebin the apt runs for reinstalling openjdk-6-jre and then the dist-upgrade for me? |
| 00:41.29 | DUKENUKEM | themill: umm im sorry but i dont think my scroll back will be that large |
| 00:41.33 | DUKENUKEM | i will see though |
| 00:41.35 | kyconquers | what set the umask each time a user logs in? |
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| 00:41.38 | DUKENUKEM | the dist-upgrade is still going |
| 00:41.56 | themill | DUKENUKEM: ahh just leave it then. (btw running these upgrade sessions inside "script" is always a great plan) |
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| 00:42.20 | DUKENUKEM | themill: ahh ok i will do that next time i do a big upgrade |
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| 00:47.52 | johnfg | hi folks |
| 00:48.19 | johnfg | Is there, or are there drivers for: AMD Radeon™ HD 7000 Series Graphics in A-series A, for wheezy? |
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| 00:51.52 | sc_ | johnfg: http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
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| 01:24.19 | abrotman | bitg: i feel like you're doing someting wrong here .. did you get this figured out ? |
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| 02:09.49 | rotifer | if anyone here has an lto how do you get it to read the prior generation tape in wheezy? |
| 02:10.03 | rotifer | i can read and write to 2 tapes fine just cant access 1 |
| 02:10.46 | abrotman | huh? |
| 02:10.51 | abrotman | access 1? |
| 02:10.58 | rotifer | yea lto-1 tapes |
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| 02:17.43 | i00nsu | hello all. how to enable a2enmod in apache2? I try "sudo a2enmod rewrite" and I get "ERROR: Module rewrite does not exist!" what I need to install to enable it ? |
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| 02:20.07 | abrotman | i00nsu: not sure what you did, that's in the main apache package .. sounds like you deleted it |
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| 02:20.22 | abrotman | judd: file usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_rewrite.so |
| 02:20.25 | judd | Search for usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_rewrite.so in squeeze/i386: apache2.2-bin: usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_rewrite.so; apache2-dbg: usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_rewrite.so |
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| 02:30.54 | i00nsu | ok.. lets imagine I delete them.. how to bring them back ? |
| 02:31.03 | metrix | I was going through the remaining release critical bugs for testing and noticed that the apt-upgrade is having issues, and the fix appears to be to "try different things" depending on the issue. Is this going to be common for most upgrades? |
| 02:31.25 | metrix | err.. apt-get dist-upgrade... sorry |
| 02:35.34 | abrotman | !tell i00nsu about confew |
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| 02:50.09 | i00nsu | no new msg with information |
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| 03:04.06 | themill | i00nsu: precisely what did you delete? the config file or the .so file? |
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| 03:21.57 | msl09 | ? |
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| 03:24.43 | themill | msl09: apt_preferences(5) explains the ranges |
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| 03:32.00 | themill | dpkg: tell TheSpectre about root |
| 03:38.39 | smw | mattgyver, I just use subvol=/ instead of subvolid |
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| 04:21.57 | unreturned | sorry, miss click |
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| 05:18.56 | mactimes | I need to collect a bunch of e-mail messages from different remote servers, different users, deliver them to local Maildir paths based on user@domain, with MySQL support. Would anyone have a suggestion? |
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| 05:27.49 | Hannofcart | Hi, It looks like I have managed to mess up my apt repositories. I tried upgrading from stable(squeezy) to unstable(sid). Now, when I try running any apt command, I get the following: http://codepad.org/UcNr3Q62 This is my sources.list file: http://codepad.org/EHU5hkHw |
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| 05:28.12 | Hannofcart | Can someone please help me with what I should be doing? |
| 05:29.46 | unreturned | use apt-get -f install |
| 05:29.49 | themill | no |
| 05:30.05 | unreturned | or aptitude upgrade to resolve dependencies |
| 05:30.07 | themill | Hannofcart: have you actually tried to do the upgrade yet? Or do you just have a squeeze system with sid in sources.list? |
| 05:30.45 | themill | Hannofcart: please don't do what unreturned is suggesting. |
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| 05:32.07 | unreturned | Hannofcart: please, do what the themill suggesting |
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| 05:36.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | well... |
| 05:36.33 | moetunes | well well well, three holes in the ground |
| 05:37.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | it does look like the latter. also looks like he fainted |
| 05:37.27 | themill | CutMeOwnThroat: I'm hoping so too, but it could already be a mess |
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| 05:41.34 | Hannofcart | themill: sorry for the delayed response. Yes, I did try the upgrade. Thats what broke everything. |
| 05:41.56 | Hannofcart | unreturned: did that, no luck |
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| 05:43.54 | rwp | Hannofcart, Your sources.list has extra items that make no sense for Sid. sid-updates and sid/updates? Not for Sid. |
| 05:43.58 | themill | Hannofcart: can you change your sources.list back to "squeeze" (no sid anywhere), re-run apt-get update and then pastebin the output of «aptitude search '?narrow(?not(?archive("^[^n][^o].*$")),?version(CURRENT))' » |
| 05:44.09 | rwp | Hannofcart, In any case... Did you 'apt-get update' after changing that file? |
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| 05:45.09 | Hannofcart | rwp: yes, I reckoned as much (about the updates entries not making sense) I get errors saying those werent found |
| 05:45.20 | Hannofcart | but all the other repositories update as necessary |
| 05:45.52 | rwp | Hannofcart, How did you "do the upgrade"? |
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| 05:47.13 | Hannofcart | rwp: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 05:47.30 | Hannofcart | after running update to update the repository lists |
| 05:47.55 | rwp | That isn't sufficient. Always best to follow the documented release notes upgrade procedure. |
| 05:48.09 | Hannofcart | themill: I am in the process of doing what you said. will codepaste the output shortly |
| 05:48.10 | rwp | Normally that means 'upgrade' first and then 'dist-upgrade' but possibly other things too. |
| 05:48.43 | rwp | Hannofcart, I am curious about themill's request too. Seems like that should return useful information. |
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| 05:49.57 | rwp | Your past says gvfs-daemons 1.12.3-4 but it isn't available for installation. But that version is the current Sid version. Wondering if ftp.br.debian.org is stale. Maybe try a different mirror. |
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| 05:58.53 | Hanno | themill: Hannofcart here. Got disconnected since I had to restart the computer because I couldn't figure out what was holding the dpkg lock. Sorry for being sucha bother but can you type those commands that you wnated me to run after reverting the sources.list to squeeze. I dont have the IRC chat log either. sorry |
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| 05:59.47 | histo | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:59.48 | histo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:00.11 | histo | Hanno: IS that the command you were looking for? |
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| 06:00.27 | Hanno | histo: yes, thanks! |
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| 06:00.59 | Duality | hi |
| 06:01.19 | Duality | i have clicking and poping in the sound on my headset any ideas ? |
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| 06:02.17 | Hanno | themill, rwp http://codepad.org/wBSL246W That is the code paste after running the aptitude search themill specified |
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| 06:04.04 | themill | ouch |
| 06:05.21 | Hanno | themill: that bad, huh? :) |
| 06:05.24 | themill | Hanno: so you have a couple of choices here -- upgrade to wheezy and try to convince apt to downgrade the packages that are currently sid versions back to wheezy versions, or you can back up your data and reinstall wheezy |
| 06:05.58 | Hanno | themill: or i can install sid |
| 06:06.07 | Hanno | shucks |
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| 06:06.22 | themill | you can't just install sid.... |
| 06:06.30 | Hanno | yup. i know |
| 06:06.34 | Hanno | i will install wheezy |
| 06:06.37 | Hanno | and upgrade |
| 06:06.45 | themill | I'd suggest that perhaps you shouldn't |
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| 06:07.08 | Hanno | themill: because i dont know my way around package management yet? |
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| 06:07.23 | themill | Your life will be much happier if you wait until you know a bit more about debian before you go anywhere near sid. |
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| 06:07.40 | Hanno | themill: noted |
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| 07:01.50 | jelly-home | wolfmitchell: needs to be done in the same root shell you call apt in -- not sudo, an actual root shell |
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| 07:04.30 | Iridos | hums "video killed the radio star" |
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| 07:27.22 | smw | anyone know what is wrong with the following /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 07:27.29 | smw | http://fpaste.org/10185/13675660/ |
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| 07:34.32 | nkuttler | smw: um, those up/down lines look odd.. |
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| 07:35.06 | smw | nkuttler, even when I comment them out it doesn't work |
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| 07:35.26 | smw | nkuttler, and I copied them from here: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Multiple_IP_addresses_on_One_Interface |
| 07:35.47 | smw | ah... I apparently didn't copy them well... |
| 07:36.00 | nkuttler | yeah |
| 07:36.03 | histo | smw: didn't copy what well? |
| 07:36.20 | nkuttler | smw: anyway, how do it not work without them? |
| 07:36.25 | smw | histo, I missed part of the line |
| 07:36.36 | smw | nkuttler, I get the same error when I comment them out |
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| 07:37.24 | nkuttler | i somehow don't trust the dns-nameservers line either... that's not in the man page |
| 07:38.29 | jelly-home | nkuttler: it's in resolvconf(8) |
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| 07:38.30 | smw | nkuttler, for that I was following http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#The_resolvconf_program |
| 07:38.49 | nkuttler | ah, there we go |
| 07:39.19 | Iridos | nkuttler, dns-nameservers works and is correct like this if you have resolvconf installed |
| 07:39.38 | Iridos | ow |
| 07:39.41 | nkuttler | Iridos: yeah, i don't |
| 07:39.45 | Iridos | seems I'm slow despite the coffee, sorry |
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| 07:40.18 | Iridos | means moar coffea |
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| 07:41.15 | WormFood | what is the preferred tools for doing ipsec with wheezy? Would everything be the same as in wheezy? |
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| 07:51.03 | smw | nkuttler, when I rebooted it all just worked |
| 07:51.17 | WormFood | er, I mean, is it the same as in squeeze? |
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| 07:53.05 | daniel-s | hi, what is the best thing to do regarding python modules? |
| 07:53.27 | daniel-s | I mean, should I be installing them with apt, or with pip, the python utility? |
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| 07:58.59 | ChrisH | daniel-s: apt will help you keeping them consitent and get the security fixes from Debian. pip might give you higher version numbers. |
| 07:59.26 | ChrisH | dpkg tell daniel-s about sns |
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| 08:00.06 | ChrisH | daniel-s: short version. If you do not need specific python versions in bleeding edge quality _I_ would prefer the apt way. |
| 08:00.13 | daniel-s | OK, thanks |
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| 08:01.56 | ChrisH | Do we have NIS+ support in debian? aptitude search nis|nis+ did not show any. I would be happy if there is no NIS+ support :) |
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| 08:03.58 | truexfan81 | !nis |
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| 08:04.10 | dpkg | The Network Information System (NIS, originally Yellow Pages) can be used to distribute system configuration data (e.g. user and host names) across networks; commonly used to maintain staff directories and files like /etc/group. Many sysadmins hate it because it is insecure. See also <LDAP>. |
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| 08:04.29 | truexfan81 | ChrisH: that^? |
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| 08:05.34 | apm1 | oh great there is a install bug for D-I at the last moment now :( |
| 08:05.41 | superlinux-hp | hi, how can i download the translation indexes with "apt-get update"? |
| 08:05.59 | ChrisH | truexfan81: No. NIS != NIS+ |
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| 08:08.05 | truexfan81 | i'm not familiar with either of those, so all i can say is if its not in the repos you would probably have to compile it from source |
| 08:08.24 | truexfan81 | anyone feel free to correct me if i am wrong |
| 08:10.20 | ChrisH | truexfan81: I know and use NIS for years. I do not want to have NIS+ support in debian. I only wanted to confirm its not in. No one wants to have NIS+. Its was removed from Solaris 11 after beeing introduced around Solaris 2.5.1 or 2.6. It was allways a source of pleasure and pain. |
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| 08:11.18 | truexfan81 | ok well it sounds to me like its not there, so it shouldn't be a problem :) |
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| 08:17.04 | drifter_ | ettercap, where is ettercap? |
| 08:18.10 | drifter_ | where is aircrack-ng? |
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| 08:19.06 | drifter_ | simple security tools not in repos |
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| 08:20.03 | ChrisH | ,v ettercap |
| 08:20.04 | judd | Package: ettercap on i386 -- squeeze: 1:0.7.3-2.1+squeeze1 |
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| 08:20.46 | ChrisH | !aircrack |
| 08:20.47 | dpkg | aircrack-ng is a suite of <WEP> and <WPA> cracking utilities forked from aircrack. Not part of the Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" release due to bug #605519, not part of the Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" release due to bug #682005. http://aircrack-ng.org/doku?id=faq http://aircrack-ng.org/ #aircack-ng on irc.freenode.net. See also <pyrit>, <weplab>. |
| 08:21.37 | drifter_ | dpkg: it's also a monitoring tool |
| 08:21.38 | dpkg | drifter_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
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| 08:23.20 | superlinux-hp | dpkg, translation index |
| 08:23.21 | dpkg | superlinux-hp: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 08:23.25 | superlinux-hp | dpkg, translations |
| 08:23.26 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, superlinux-hp |
| 08:23.29 | superlinux-hp | dpkg, translation |
| 08:23.30 | dpkg | superlinux-hp: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 08:23.45 | superlinux-hp | dpkg, apt translation |
| 08:23.46 | dpkg | From Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" onwards, the long description of the packages is moved out of the Packages files on the mirrors and placed instead in a Translation-en file in the same way as translated package descriptions are stored. To configure which languages to download, see Acquire::Languages in apt.conf(5). For example, «echo "Acquire::Languages{en;};" > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/90translation» |
| 08:24.12 | drifter_ | anyway, im happy about the fact that xmonad works out of the box compare to arch linux |
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| 08:25.33 | superlinux-hp | how can re-download the indexes similar to Translation-en ? |
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| 08:29.16 | gnude | at what time on saturday will the build of the new release start? |
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| 08:30.11 | jelly-home | superlinux-hp: delete them from /var/lib/apt/lists/ and redo an update |
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| 08:30.31 | Andy80 | hi |
| 08:30.34 | gnude | hi andy |
| 08:30.46 | superlinux-hp | jelly-home, i am reading about also i have to set my locales |
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| 08:31.34 | Andy80 | I'm running Debian 6.0 and in ssh_config I've written: PermitRootLogin no, and I've restarted the service, but I still can login using root. What's wrong? |
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| 08:31.55 | jelly-home | Andy80: sshd_config |
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| 08:32.20 | Andy80 | ops! |
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| 08:35.43 | Andy80 | <--- apt-get drink coffee :) |
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| 08:51.23 | loaden | hi, guys! I'm a `Wheezy + GNOME3 + Lightdm + ATI-fglrx-driver` user. When I reboot or enter tty1 use Ctrl+Alt+F1, the screen will black (darkness), but every thing seems just works. e.g. I can login in tty1 and `startx` into X again. It seems only the screen can't see anything. `Alt+SysRq+V` did not help. Does anyone have the same issue? OpenGL renderer string: AMD Radeon HD 7400 Series / OpenGL version string: 4.2.11762 Compatibility Profile Context. |
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| 08:59.40 | eutheria | i am being stupid, what is the codename for version 6? |
| 08:59.46 | ChrisH | loaden: Just to be sure. You use Ctrl+Alt+F1 for tty1 and login. Then you cannot use Ctrl+Alt+F6 or F7 to get back to your Gnome? |
| 08:59.54 | Feigrim | eutheria: Squeeze |
| 08:59.59 | eutheria | thanks! |
| 09:00.06 | eutheria | i thought squeeze was version 5 |
| 09:00.15 | Feigrim | 5 was Lenny |
| 09:00.19 | Feigrim | I think :o |
| 09:00.24 | eutheria | thanks |
| 09:02.32 | loaden | ChrisH: no. I using lightdm and login in GNOME3 with tty7. When I want login in other tty, e.g. tty1, tty2..., I can't see anything after press `Ctrl+Alt+F1`. |
| 09:03.55 | loaden | ChrisH: If I remove the lightdm, and login in tty1 first. then `startx` into GNOME3. after this, I can't come back to any ttyX, because the screen will darkness. |
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| 09:08.57 | loaden | Just to be clear. :-) |
| 09:09.00 | loaden | hi, guys! I'm a `Wheezy + GNOME3 + Lightdm + ATI-fglrx-driver` user, I using lightdm and login in GNOME3 with tty7. When I want login in other tty, e.g. tty1, tty2..., I can't see anything after press `Ctrl+Alt+F1` or `Ctrl+Alt+F2`, the screen will black (darkness), but every thing seems just works. e.g. I can still login in tty1 and `startx` into X again with darkness screen. and I can press `Ctrl+Alt+F7` return GNOME3 too. It seems only the screen can't see a |
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| 09:11.47 | sikilpaake | how can i tell whether lftp is actually using sftp or not? according to this site http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_use_lftp_as_a_sftp_client, my lftp is not configured with openssl, but it seems to connect to an sftp site rather well, what's going on? |
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| 09:14.02 | ectospasm | sikilpaake: sftp uses SSH, which doesn't depend on OpenSSL libs IIRC |
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| 09:14.31 | Trewas | sikilpaake: maybe it is using libgnutls instead, and I am not sure if sftp support even needs that |
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| 09:14.34 | sikilpaake | that's what i thought |
| 09:15.25 | sikilpaake | does libgnutls have an ssh thingie or what? |
| 09:15.43 | Trewas | no, but it is more or less replacement for libssl |
| 09:15.49 | sikilpaake | hmm |
| 09:16.14 | sikilpaake | Trewas: is there a way to check whether it's using "real" sftp? |
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| 09:16.48 | sikilpaake | trewas: i'm trying "netstat -A inet" |
| 09:16.55 | sikilpaake | Trewas: but it's not conclusive |
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| 09:17.15 | ectospasm | you could always use scp to test sftp |
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| 09:17.45 | ectospasm | if it's listening for SSH, it should be listening for SFTP unless the server explicitly turned that feature off in sshd_config |
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| 09:18.08 | sikilpaake | ectospasm: scp does work, but i need to check whether lftp is the one using sftp.. i'm checking the client, not the server, here |
| 09:18.27 | ChrisH | sikilpaake: man lftp suggests its capable to do sftp, but why not using sftp and avoid any doubts. |
| 09:18.58 | sikilpaake | sftp does not have the whole "rsync -like" feature that lftp does |
| 09:19.04 | sikilpaake | the reverse clone |
| 09:19.21 | sikilpaake | reverse.. um, reverse mirror |
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| 09:20.05 | ectospasm | netstat -atnp as root with lftp running might tell you which port lftp is connecting to |
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| 09:20.15 | ChrisH | sikilpaake: well then the fastest way could be tcpdump a session and check with wireshark the login |
| 09:20.16 | ectospasm | sikilpaake: ^ |
| 09:20.23 | ectospasm | that too |
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| 09:20.59 | sikilpaake | ChrisH: can i grep the tcpdump someway, instead? |
| 09:21.06 | jelly-home | or just look at whether it connects to port 22 or something else |
| 09:21.19 | sikilpaake | jelly-home: it's not connecting to port 22 |
| 09:21.21 | ChrisH | sikilpaake: you do not want to grep anything... use wireshark |
| 09:21.28 | sikilpaake | ChrisH: ok, thanks! |
| 09:21.33 | jelly-home | sikilpaake: you have an explicit port to connect to? |
| 09:21.44 | sikilpaake | jelly-home: no |
| 09:21.55 | jelly-home | sikilpaake: then it's not using ssh, ergo it's not sftp |
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| 09:22.16 | sikilpaake | jelly-home: ok, thanks |
| 09:22.27 | jelly-home | ectospasm: scp is a different protocol |
| 09:22.55 | sikilpaake | jelly-home: lftp should by default tell you it's not doing a "real" sftp session |
| 09:23.10 | jelly-home | sikilpaake: should? |
| 09:23.15 | sikilpaake | jelly-home: yeah |
| 09:23.21 | jelly-home | sikilpaake: run "debug 3" before connecting |
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| 09:23.35 | sikilpaake | jelly-home: how? |
| 09:23.55 | sikilpaake | lftp debug 3 <-- like that? |
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| 09:24.56 | jelly-home | sikilpaake: open lftp. type "debug 3". then open sftp://whatevs/ |
| 09:25.16 | jelly-home | if it uses an internal implementation, it ought to display some debug info |
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| 09:25.22 | jelly-home | lftp,17990 |
| 09:25.22 | jelly-home | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:25.25 | sikilpaake | jelly-home: ok |
| 09:25.35 | jelly-home | mine however uses the external sftp client |
| 09:26.24 | sikilpaake | nothing happened |
| 09:26.42 | sikilpaake | i connected, but no debug messages showed up |
| 09:26.47 | jelly-home | yeah, probably because it forks ssh, like above |
| 09:26.57 | sikilpaake | it "forks" ssh? |
| 09:27.03 | sikilpaake | what does that mean? |
| 09:27.04 | ChrisH | sikilpaake: why not simply use rsync over ssh/scp? |
| 09:27.18 | jelly-home | sikilpaake: it runs a separate helper child process |
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| 09:27.37 | sikilpaake | jelly-home: oh |
| 09:27.41 | jelly-home | fork() is the system call used to create child processes |
| 09:27.48 | sikilpaake | oh, i see |
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| 09:27.59 | sikilpaake | how do i go back to the default debug level? |
| 09:28.05 | jelly-home | debug 0 |
| 09:30.27 | sikilpaake | ChrisH: i was considering that.. |
| 09:30.37 | sikilpaake | ChrisH: but i think it might be difficult |
| 09:30.50 | sikilpaake | ChrisH: like how would you go about doing that? |
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| 09:32.02 | sikilpaake | ChrisH: like this, perhaps? "rsync /foo/bar/baz/index.html qux@foo.com:/home/qux/public_html" |
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| 09:36.57 | sikilpaake | makes no sense to me while lftp isn't compiled with sftp support by default |
| 09:37.20 | sikilpaake | i already tried compiling it here on this ubuntu machine, and make failed with some errors |
| 09:38.07 | jelly-home | sikilpaake: I highly doubt ubuntu would go out of its way to _remove_ sftp functionality already present in debian builds. |
| 09:38.45 | sikilpaake | perhaps because the debian builds don't have sftp support in them |
| 09:39.01 | jelly-home | sikilpaake: the one in wheezy does. |
| 09:39.06 | sikilpaake | hmm |
| 09:39.25 | jelly-home | as shown above |
| 09:39.30 | sikilpaake | yeah |
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| 09:39.43 | sikilpaake | i guess i have no choice but to learn the rsync way, now |
| 09:39.50 | sikilpaake | since i can't compile lftp |
| 09:40.47 | jelly-home | sikilpaake: which debian release are you using? |
| 09:41.00 | sikilpaake | 'setupterm' was not declared in this scope <-- this was the compilation error |
| 09:41.01 | sikilpaake | i'm on ubuntu now |
| 09:41.05 | sikilpaake | um.. 12.04 |
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| 09:41.27 | jelly-home | sikilpaake: can you retest in debian? |
| 09:41.41 | sikilpaake | jelly-home: unfortunately i can't |
| 09:41.55 | jelly-home | this channel can't help with ubuntu issues, ask in #ubuntu or ##linux |
| 09:42.08 | sikilpaake | alright :) thanks |
| 09:42.13 | jelly-home | WorksForMe™ |
| 09:42.18 | sikilpaake | heh heh heh |
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| 09:44.54 | Trewas | fwiw lftp with sftp is working fine also in ubuntu |
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| 09:51.16 | wrksx | hello there. I'm trying to improve my php script performance by using multiprocessing (fork), but CPU is still idle 80 % of the time... How could I know what is limiting my script performances ? |
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| 09:51.51 | phogg | using php and worried about performance? |
| 09:51.54 | phogg | shakes head |
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| 09:52.40 | Sonic_2 | Hi! Can anybody help me with setting up SCIM ? |
| 09:53.20 | wrksx | phogg: yeah php may not be the perfect language for that |
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| 09:53.25 | petn-randall | wrksx: Network, disks, or your algorithms can all be limiting factors. |
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| 09:56.02 | wrksx | petn-randall: I believe disk or network are not the problem, I handle local things and I already saw better disk performances for other tasks on that box. That leaves me with my algorithm being limiting perf ? |
| 09:56.14 | ChrisH | not enough user requests incoming? |
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| 09:57.20 | wrksx | I think i don't understand how cpu is used, I thought I could easily reach large amount of CPU usage by spawning lots of processes to parallelize the task |
| 09:57.40 | wrksx | but CPU cannot get higher than 20% usage |
| 09:57.41 | petn-randall | wrksx: Why believe? Know! Measure it! |
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| 09:58.57 | wrksx | petn-randall: network is not involved, should I use vmstat to check for disk uasage ? |
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| 09:59.45 | petn-randall | wrksx: or you can use iotop, it give you % of utilization, which is more important. |
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| 10:01.52 | ectospasm | <3 iotop |
| 10:02.46 | jelly-home | atop! |
| 10:03.20 | Iridos | well, pity iotop was broken/disabled for regular users |
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| 10:03.45 | Kegeruneku | Greetings |
| 10:03.53 | wrksx | petn-randall: the process getting the highest IO%age is [jbd2/sda2-8] is this what I should be lookin for ? |
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| 10:06.14 | wrksx | Iridos: how that broken ? it seems to work well |
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| 10:09.46 | Iridos | only for root |
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| 10:11.56 | wrksx | iotop reports a 15% IO for the [jbd2/sda2-8] process. I suppose that means I'm far from being IO bound on this task, right ? |
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| 10:14.49 | ChrisH | wrksx: did you run atop as root? Anything colored? |
| 10:15.11 | wrksx | ChrisH: never heard about atop, i'll try it |
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| 10:15.43 | ChrisH | wrksx: it was suggested before: 12:02 < jelly-home> atop! |
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| 10:16.12 | wrksx | ChrisH: yelling "atop" didn't catch my attention sorry |
| 10:16.22 | wrksx | ChrisH: and I got red in atop ! |
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| 10:18.01 | ChrisH | wrksx: atop marks lines in colors which can point to potential problem, bottlenecks or similar. can/will you show us the atop output on paste.debian.net ? |
| 10:18.16 | wrksx | ChrisH: sure |
| 10:19.32 | wrksx | ChrisH: here is my atop result: http://paste.debian.net/1873/ |
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| 10:21.46 | ChrisH | wrksx: your system is short on memory as it looks like. check ps -efl | sort -k+10n |
| 10:22.14 | wrksx | ChrisH: I may have allocated too much on mysql |
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| 10:22.37 | ChrisH | this shopuld show you the processes sorted by memory usage. here after size which is the virtual size not the RSS |
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| 10:24.56 | wrksx | ChrisH: here is the command result: http://paste.debian.net/1874/ |
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| 10:27.06 | wrksx | when running my script : DSK | sda | busy 98% | read 13 | write 1548 | avio 6 ms | |
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| 10:30.01 | ChrisH | wrksx: from a quick look: a. your Mysql uses a lot of memory, its up to you to decide if this is needed and/or wanted. b) the busy sda is most probly the swap area and the kernel searching for memory pages to be moved to disk. |
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| 10:33.22 | MartinCleaver | Hi - Debian 6.0.7 includes wget 1.12 (http://ftp.twaren.net/debian-cd/6.0.7-live/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-6.0.7-i386-standard.iso.packages) but wget 1.12 seems to have a memory leak (http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?33183, http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.wget.general/9621) |
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| 10:33.44 | MartinCleaver | http://wget.addictivecode.org/FrequentlyAskedQuestions?action=show&redirect=Faq#Where_can_I_download_Wget.3F shows source tar balls, but no deb for the latest |
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| 10:34.11 | MartinCleaver | where might I find a .deb or something I can install with a package manager? |
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| 10:34.39 | wrksx | ChrisH: yeah I really need much mem for mysql. About point b), my script is trying to record many rows in the lowest time possible, so it may be expected to get a high disk usage, don't you think ? Is there any test I could run to check if swap is causing slowdown ? I don't understand clearly how swap is used, but if I free 1GB of the mem used by mysql, would that reduce swpping issue ? |
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| 10:36.05 | ectospasm | MartinCleaver: wheezy has 1.13.4-3... wheezy will be stable this weekend... |
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| 10:36.45 | MartinCleaver | thanks ectospasm… but is there a backport? |
| 10:37.06 | ectospasm | MartinCleaver: there does not appear to be |
| 10:37.09 | ChrisH | wrksx: Is this any productive system? Reducing the memory load of MYSQL will help the system of course. It might be needed to add more memory and seperate the disks. use different disks for Database and OS and swap. Consider a RAID1 setup. |
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| 10:38.04 | ectospasm | MartinCleaver: which means it will not come for squeeze. |
| 10:38.40 | MartinCleaver | where might have I looked to see that information? |
| 10:38.41 | ectospasm | ...besides, the wget memory leak you mentioned may have already been applied to the Debian build. |
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| 10:38.50 | ectospasm | MartinCleaver: packages.debian.org |
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| 10:39.34 | Alberaan | hi! |
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| 10:39.46 | Alberaan | I'm trying to install debian wheezy rc1 |
| 10:39.55 | MartinCleaver | http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/w/wget/wget_1.12-2.1/changelog gives a 404 |
| 10:40.08 | Alberaan | but the installation gets stuck at configuring packages |
| 10:40.17 | Alberaan | looking at the syslog I see: |
| 10:40.52 | MartinCleaver | me reads http://patch-tracker.debian.org/patch/series/view/wget/1.12-2.1/debian-changes-1.12-2 |
| 10:41.00 | wrksx | ChrisH: I'm testing the system right now, it will be "productive" if possible in the next week. More memory or seperate disks are not an option since the config is fixed by my hoster... And I believe it is under RAID1 =) |
| 10:41.06 | Alberaan | "Info: Menu item 'apt-setup-udeb' succeeded but requested to be left unconfigured" |
| 10:41.12 | Alberaan | can someone help me out? |
| 10:41.49 | ChrisH | wrksx: sda does not imply Raid1 check using blkid and lshw -short /me offline for lunch |
| 10:42.03 | wrksx | ChrisH: did you mean different disks, oo different partitions |
| 10:42.19 | wrksx | ChrisH: ok thanks for your help, have a good lunch mate =) |
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| 10:44.12 | ChrisH | wrksx: DISKS = spindles; same disk differnt partition does not help |
| 10:44.14 | MartinCleaver | reads Changelog on http://freecode.com/projects/wget but notes nothing particular about -2.1 |
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| 10:47.18 | ectospasm | MartinCleaver: that GNU wget bug you linked to shows it's for Mac OS... are you sure it's a problem for Linux? |
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| 10:48.58 | MartinCleaver | well, I'm seeing the problem on Debian 6.0.7. I've downloaded the source and am testing at the moment. |
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| 11:09.04 | vaillor | hi guys, how to automont a vbox shared folder in a debian guest? |
| 11:09.40 | vaillor | i usually use mount -t vboxsf |
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| 11:10.37 | ChrisH | vaillor: after installing the guest extenstion this should be possible from the vbox admin gui. |
| 11:10.55 | vaillor | i done it |
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| 11:10.58 | MartinCleaver | ectospasm: It works fine with the wget 1.14 I just built. |
| 11:10.59 | vaillor | but it doesn't work |
| 11:11.42 | ectospasm | MartinCleaver: that's the version that's in sid |
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| 11:13.25 | MartinCleaver | You'd like me to test 1.13.4-3, huh? |
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| 11:14.09 | MartinCleaver | downloads http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/w/wget/wget_1.13.4-3.debian.tar.gz |
| 11:14.22 | vaillor | ChrisH, i'm using built in guest additions preinstalled in debian |
| 11:14.51 | MartinCleaver | no code in that... |
| 11:14.56 | MartinCleaver | downloads http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/w/wget/wget_1.13.4.orig.tar.gz |
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| 11:17.08 | MartinCleaver | reprovisions |
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| 11:19.53 | MartinCleaver | ectospasm: that one works fine too |
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| 11:21.01 | ectospasm | MartinCleaver: is there a particular reason you haven't upgraded to wheezy yet? |
| 11:22.00 | MartinCleaver | lots of boxes on squeeze - it will take a while to convert them to |
| 11:22.12 | MartinCleaver | but we'll test the new stuff on wheezy, for sure |
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| 11:23.01 | MartinCleaver | this has been nagging my team for a couple of months. It was only at 3am that I got around to researching it |
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| 11:30.02 | Aaruni | I am running a bot on a debian server, and my connection dropped, but the bot is still on. how do I quit it? I access via ssh terminal |
| 11:30.56 | niklaswe | Aaruni: kill the proccess? |
| 11:30.59 | ChrisH | Aaruni: ps -ef | grep name-of-process ; kill PID_of_process is that what you are asking for? |
| 11:31.08 | ectospasm | Aaruni: do you know the process's name? ps -C <process_name> |
| 11:31.14 | Aaruni | I think |
| 11:31.21 | ectospasm | or pkill <process_name> |
| 11:31.22 | Aaruni | it is supybot i think |
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| 11:33.18 | Aaruni | yeah, thanks guys |
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| 11:33.31 | _Qman | Hello, any idea how to fix this error: lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags |
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| 11:34.04 | _Qman | when chattr gives the same error: chattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device while reading flags |
| 11:34.14 | Walex | _Qman: you probably need to mount the filetree enabling ACLs. |
| 11:34.41 | _Qman | ok thanks |
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| 11:41.46 | SARC | Hi. I asked dpkg about package rebuild but I've done something wrong... I have changed the source code and then issued "dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us", when i do "dpkg -i ../packagename-version.deb" the new compiled code doesnt seem to take effect |
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| 11:46.26 | Towzzer | SARC, maybe it thinks it's already installed? |
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| 11:50.12 | SARC | Towzzer: it is installed. whats the best way to remove? should i purge too? |
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| 11:50.32 | wix | Hi. I'm trying to use rsync through ssh with this command line: rsync -vvvvv --dry-run --itemize-changes -a -e 'ssh -i /opt/share/.ssh/id_rsa -l rsync server' rsync@rsync://server:/opt/share /opt/share. But it failed with: rsync: change_dir#3 "/opt/share//rsync" failed: No such file or directory (2). Can you help me to understand why it is appending /rsync for change_dir#3? |
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| 11:52.56 | Aaruni | nohup doesn't seem to be running properly |
| 11:53.14 | Aaruni | the process also ends, when I do ctrl+x |
| 11:53.18 | Aaruni | *ctrl+c |
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| 11:56.02 | Towzzer | SARC, purge is fine, then reinstall |
| 11:56.05 | Towzzer | purge removes the configuration files |
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| 11:56.29 | wix | adding --rsync-path solved my problem (but I still don't understand why /rsync was appended to my path) |
| 11:57.13 | buckfast | hello |
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| 11:58.16 | buckfast | I installed debian with the ~180 net install disc, but it barely installed anything |
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| 11:58.34 | buckfast | I chose KDE from the first menu (in the additional settings) |
| 11:58.44 | _Qman | Walex: Even with ACL I still get the same error |
| 11:59.21 | buckfast | can I install the software like the CD version would or do I have to install everything manually now? |
| 11:59.37 | Towzzer | buckfast, you can just install it and it will download from the internetz |
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| 12:00.07 | buckfast | Towzzer: I have to install all the software manually now? |
| 12:00.29 | pacop | hello. I have upgraded to wheezy and OSS4 does not work. I have tried to recompile oss4-dkms and follow some tutorials in debian forum but it shows no devices with ossinfo. Any idea? |
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| 12:00.31 | buckfast | it didn't even give me an option to isntall a GUI |
| 12:00.38 | ex-parrot | buckfast: you can install the usual kde set of stuff by installing the "kde-standard" package |
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| 12:01.47 | buckfast | there's not even 'apt' |
| 12:01.57 | apm1 | buckfast, on ? |
| 12:01.59 | ex-parrot | or probably by installing task-kde-desktop on wheezy |
| 12:02.06 | buckfast | debian 6 netinstall |
| 12:02.08 | ex-parrot | buckfast it sounds like your install did not complete entirely... |
| 12:02.23 | apm1 | debootstrapping ? |
| 12:02.29 | ex-parrot | even the minbase variant of squeeze has "apt-get" I am pretty sure |
| 12:03.17 | xzcvczx | ooo its release day :) |
| 12:03.32 | apm1 | xzcvczx, not here |
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| 12:03.38 | buckfast | ex-parrot: shouldn't the installer give me an option of software to install? |
| 12:03.51 | buckfast | like in the full cd/dvd version |
| 12:03.53 | ex-parrot | buckfast: yes it should have run tasksel at the end of the install, if it didn't then it probably didn't install correctly... |
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| 12:03.54 | xzcvczx | apm1: well im am here and here is the only tz i care about :P |
| 12:04.07 | ex-parrot | it's been release day for 4 minutes here |
| 12:04.17 | xzcvczx | ex-parrot: welcome fellow contryman |
| 12:04.19 | xzcvczx | or woman |
| 12:04.36 | ex-parrot | howdy :) |
| 12:04.56 | xzcvczx | ex-parrot: akl? |
| 12:05.05 | ex-parrot | nope, but good guess |
| 12:05.17 | xzcvczx | well it was a 25% chance |
| 12:05.29 | ex-parrot | exactly, auckland makes good statistical sense as a first try ;) |
| 12:06.03 | xzcvczx | but yeah, i am more looking forward to the thaw as opposed to the release |
| 12:06.23 | xzcvczx | does the thaw happen straight after release or is there a melting period typically? |
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| 12:08.00 | jhutchins_wk | buckfast: That sounds a bit like what happens if the netinstall can't see a network connection.. |
| 12:08.41 | wolfmitchell | not for apt, for a make which needs to connect to the internet for some reason --> [03:01:48] <jelly-home> wolfmitchell: needs to be done in the same root shell you call apt in -- not sudo, an actual root shell |
| 12:09.15 | jelly-home | wolfmitchell: which command does make really invoke? |
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| 12:09.43 | buckfast | I guess'll just try reinstalling |
| 12:10.00 | jelly-home | wolfmitchell: http_proxy is the common way of specifying it; if the command does not support it, you'll have to figure out if it supports anything else |
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| 12:12.09 | buckfast | jhutchins_wk: it definitely was retrieving some files, alhtough I had a problem with the nameserver first |
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| 12:12.40 | buckfast | it is showing ssh server and standard system utilities in the software selection :S |
| 12:12.47 | buckfast | nothing more |
| 12:12.58 | wolfmitchell | jelly-home, I'm not at that computer right now... (it's a school computer that I was allowed to put linux on, I'm at home now and probably not going to school today because of doctors apppointments) |
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| 12:14.26 | jelly-home | nod |
| 12:17.37 | buckfast | did I get the wrong installer or something? |
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| 12:17.48 | buckfast | I got one of those 'small cds' |
| 12:20.07 | abrotman | buckfast: that's the netinst .. that'll get you a base system |
| 12:20.18 | abrotman | buckfast: your network wasn't availble, or you'd have had more options |
| 12:20.36 | buckfast | abrotman: it was retrieving packages |
| 12:20.41 | buckfast | or so it said |
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| 12:20.57 | buckfast | I got no error messages on being unable to connect to the apt server |
| 12:21.12 | abrotman | did it ask your dhcp or IP information? or ask your for an apt mirror? |
| 12:21.21 | buckfast | yes |
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| 12:21.36 | buckfast | had to manually set the dns in console though |
| 12:21.47 | abrotman | hrm ... |
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| 12:23.12 | abrotman | you can probably complete this, then use tasksel or aptitude when it comes back up .. just make sure your network is fuctional |
| 12:23.17 | fireba11 | Hi, when i do fsck (or debian does it on boot) on one of my servers i usually have a couple errors ... is that normal? I have uptimes of > 1 year, so last check WAS some time ago ;-) |
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| 12:23.49 | buckfast | abrotman: tasksel did come up, but the only options were ssh server and standard utilities |
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| 12:24.17 | ex-parrot | fireba11: stupid question but you're not running fsck with the filesystem mounted are you? |
| 12:24.18 | abrotman | right .. so finish, then reboot, make sure internet works, set apt sources, get the rest of what you want |
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| 12:24.44 | buckfast | abrotman: I don't want to install everything manually |
| 12:24.48 | fireba11 | ex-parrot: nope, was running it with -n to see if there would be errors since it would trigger fsck if i'd reboot now |
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| 12:25.34 | ex-parrot | I am not sure that running fsck -n even against a mounted filesystem produces worthwhile results |
| 12:26.27 | fireba11 | ex-parrot: true, but for one the server should be idling now and i had errors on reboot several times so i though i'd check while the server is still running |
| 12:27.09 | ex-parrot | can't explain the errors on reboot, but I don't think I'd trust the output of fsck unless the filesystem is unmounted... |
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| 12:29.35 | buckfast | abrotman: Guess what, this time I didn't choose KDE from the advanced options before the installation bootup and I chose a different mirror and all the software options are showing up all of a sudden |
| 12:30.17 | buckfast | too bad it will not install kde now though |
| 12:30.41 | ex-parrot | kde is quite easy to install afterwards though :) |
| 12:30.45 | fireba11 | ex-parrot: naturally. have to reboot for the dumbest reason anyway ... i want to replace 2HDs but the data cable of the other 2HDs are in the way ^^! |
| 12:30.55 | buckfast | yeah, I guess |
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| 12:31.06 | Ansa89 | hi all |
| 12:31.14 | ex-parrot | fireba11: that sucks. good opportunity to upgrade the kernel if nothing else :) |
| 12:31.36 | Ansa89 | i have some troubles with peerguardian on wheezy 64bits |
| 12:31.50 | Ansa89 | i think i misconfigured something |
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| 12:36.26 | abrotman | buckfast: eh .. you can do it later |
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| 12:36.42 | abrotman | buckfast: the more advanced users skip tasksel anyway |
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| 12:37.18 | buckfast | yeah, not much options to choose from there |
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| 12:51.22 | duffduff | when using ubuntu, I used to be able to press the mouse wheel and windows key to zoom into the desktop. Does debian have this option? |
| 12:51.38 | duffduff | currently using wheezy, but can't seem to find the option if it exists |
| 12:51.55 | mmnicolas | duffduff: that's a compiz plugin, compiz is not in wheezy |
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| 12:53.09 | mmnicolas | what desktop environment are you using ? Gnome 3 ? |
| 12:54.05 | mmnicolas | or you can do it with xrandr to some extent |
| 12:56.15 | duffduff | mmnicolas: thank you :) |
| 12:56.18 | duffduff | I'm using mate |
| 12:56.36 | abrotman | Mate is not in Debian |
| 12:56.43 | abrotman | you should ask them |
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| 12:56.51 | duffduff | ok :) thanks |
| 12:56.59 | abrotman | or you're not actually using Debian |
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| 12:57.16 | duffduff | I'm using wheezy with mate |
| 12:57.39 | abrotman | okay, then ask them .. |
| 12:58.17 | mmnicolas | yea, if you already have a frankenstein system then build compiz from the upstream tarball too |
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| 13:03.52 | Aktau | Top of the afternoon guys |
| 13:04.06 | Aktau | I'm trying to create a wheezy install USB stick |
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| 13:04.12 | Aktau | But I'd like my own pressed in there |
| 13:04.30 | Aktau | I've looked at simple-cdd but it looks complex for just a simple pressed file |
| 13:04.55 | Aktau | Is there another way I could insert a preseed? From the stock wheezy netinst? |
| 13:05.13 | mmnicolas | you could host it on some http server and specify it while booting an untouched image |
| 13:06.16 | mmnicolas | otherwise you'll have to loop mount it, get content out, insert preseed file (and while you're there, alter the syslinux.cfg to pick up the preseed file automatically) and repackage the iso |
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| 13:06.24 | Aktau | Since the installation happen wherever in the world that's a less attractive option to me |
| 13:06.44 | Aktau | Could I alter the USB after I write the ISO to it with dd? |
| 13:06.55 | mmnicolas | oh yea, I think so |
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| 13:07.23 | Aktau | That would be cool |
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| 13:09.17 | Alberaan | I managed to install ubuntu on a uefi machine |
| 13:09.25 | Alberaan | but I can't install wheezy rc3 |
| 13:09.25 | Alberaan | :( |
| 13:09.37 | Alberaan | I used boot repair from a ubuntu live to do it |
| 13:09.48 | Alberaan | is there a similar approach for the debian installation? |
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| 13:22.02 | jimcooncat | next week, do I dist-upgrade or fresh install and copy files into my /home? |
| 13:22.17 | petn-randall | Alberaan: Biggest difference between Ubuntu and Debian is: You can't install Debian with UEFI secure boot activated. Have you checked that? |
| 13:23.04 | petn-randall | Alberaan: I think the debian installer has a rescue mode to chroot into the target and re-run grub, etc. |
| 13:23.56 | Aktau | mmnicolas: strangely enough I can't find the syslinux.cfg. I have all the contents of the wheezy boot usb before me (written with dd if/of) |
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| 13:36.13 | mmnicolas | Aktau: isolinux.cfg probably ? look for .cfg files, there is one for every submenu, I don't which one contains main boot line |
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| 13:36.46 | joran_ | ping |
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| 13:37.04 | Aktau | mmnicolas: you're right, I did find an isolinux.cfg file |
| 13:37.14 | Aktau | Though its format is unknown to me, at least its not binary :) |
| 13:37.40 | mmnicolas | yea it's probably including some other file which contains the typical line you'll recognize |
| 13:38.40 | Aktau | The hunt contineous :) |
| 13:38.47 | Aktau | menu.cfg is next... |
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| 13:39.14 | jlee | In debian is there any management tool or script that can help admin batch create accounts, groups and assign appropriate permission/ commands? |
| 13:39.29 | mmnicolas | jlee: shell scripting ? |
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| 13:40.10 | jlee | mmnicolas: I hope that could be the last resort. |
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| 13:41.25 | joran_ | /quit |
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| 13:41.44 | Screwba | anyone here good with LSBinit? |
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| 13:41.57 | Lehti | Hey, anybody familiar with OpenStack? I've been thinking about experimenting with it a bit and try some basic stuff. I've just wondered, is it possible to sort of pool networking resources? |
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| 13:42.16 | lankou | Hi there |
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| 13:42.37 | Lehti | I mean if I have a one big instance spanning on multiple servers, can it put out stuff evenly, if it's e.g. a web server in question |
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| 13:44.13 | lankou | does anyone know how to hide changelogs when upgrading ? |
| 13:44.36 | mmnicolas | jlee: that's strange, because it is the best and most flexible option, especially for doing things like this, you want to make sure it does exactly what you meant |
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| 13:46.31 | ChrisH | a while ago I found a tool to manage contacts on google and forgot the name. aptitude does not show me the name again. Any tips? |
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| 13:48.22 | Dr^Fets | gdata? |
| 13:48.32 | Dr^Fets | you can easily search using synaptic |
| 13:48.56 | Dr^Fets | or do apt-cache search xxxxxx |
| 13:49.40 | Aktau | Shit |
| 13:49.50 | Aktau | Sorry for foul language |
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| 13:50.02 | Aktau | But, it seems that the usb is mounted as read-only |
| 13:50.07 | Aktau | Maybe because of the filesystem |
| 13:50.11 | Aktau | hmmm |
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| 13:50.47 | Dr^Fets | chmod? |
| 13:51.06 | Aktau | I don't think it works like that |
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| 13:51.10 | Aktau | Editing as sudo doesn't work either |
| 13:51.15 | mmnicolas | it's an iso dd'ed on a usb stick |
| 13:51.18 | Aktau | It says the filesystem of the USB disk is read-only |
| 13:51.19 | jlee | mmnicolas: you are right. it is just that at the moment i do not have many spare time working on it. so wishful thinking there might have something similar. but actually i've done some search in the past few days, actually it looks like shell scripting is still the best choice. |
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| 13:51.56 | Dr^Fets | remount with rw? |
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| 13:52.34 | Aktau | Dr^Fets: yep, searching for the incantation to do that right now |
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| 14:01.21 | Aktau | It appears to be a iso9660, could've guessed that |
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| 14:05.24 | mmnicolas | Aktau: get the content out, put in a folder, insert your preseed file and try to repack it with this: http://paste.debian.net/1910/ I used this a long time ago |
| 14:05.57 | Aktau | I'll try that :) thanks mmnicolas ! |
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| 14:06.43 | mmnicolas | or this is probably a good read: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apb.html.en |
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| 14:07.19 | Mattix | Hello |
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| 14:07.45 | Mattix | do you know any app to un-delete a file in a SD card? |
| 14:07.51 | Mattix | I removed it by mistake -.-" |
| 14:08.14 | mmnicolas | Mattix: are we talking about pictures ? I usually have luck with recoverjpeg or photorec |
| 14:08.29 | Aktau | mmnicolas: I read the entire thing. It's good but doesn't say anything about editing a bootable USB for preseeding |
| 14:08.30 | Mattix | (actually I didn't remove it. I was moving it to my HDD, and an error occurred. now I can't find the file in the HDD nor in the SD card :|) |
| 14:08.41 | Aktau | The information on the internet is disparate to say the least |
| 14:08.41 | Mattix | no, it's a 2.2GB file |
| 14:09.31 | zykotick9 | Mattix: i'd second the photorec suggestion (it's not just for photos ;) |
| 14:09.45 | Mattix | okh, let me see |
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| 14:09.56 | mmnicolas | yea I think it comes with the whole testdisk package |
| 14:10.05 | zykotick9 | it does. |
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| 14:10.40 | Mattix | http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec |
| 14:10.43 | Mattix | this one I guess |
| 14:11.12 | mmnicolas | Mattix: if it's an ntfs filesystem there is a tool in ntfsprogs for that |
| 14:11.18 | Mattix | it's FAT32 |
| 14:12.53 | mmnicolas | Mattix: photorec is in the repo, it's in the packaged called testdisk |
| 14:13.06 | Mattix | ah, cool. I was downloading it :P |
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| 14:13.15 | Mattix | thanks |
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| 14:14.19 | mmnicolas | oh wait |
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| 14:15.07 | Mattix | do you know how to find out the partition table type? |
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| 14:16.22 | mmnicolas | don't do anything yet, dd the whole sd card if you can just in case, then try the fsck.vfat tool, it has an undelete feature |
| 14:16.37 | mmnicolas | probably better than going full rambo with data carving |
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| 14:17.13 | mmnicolas | but you have to know the file name |
| 14:17.16 | Mattix | hmn, let me see |
| 14:17.21 | Mattix | I know the file name |
| 14:17.24 | Mattix | and the path |
| 14:17.32 | Mattix | even the size and the creation date lol |
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| 14:18.42 | mmnicolas | basically, fsck.vfat -vru /media/usb/deletedfilename.txt recoveredfilename.txt |
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| 14:20.25 | Mattix | ok, I'll try that in a minute. I'm cloning the SD card just in case |
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| 14:21.12 | Mattix | OMG, it's slow.. I'll take a while to clone 32GB |
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| 14:22.13 | mmnicolas | yea, but you'll have unlimited chances to try whatever you want if it fails |
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| 14:28.27 | BotaniCar | hi , i finished upgrading to wheezy and lost my mousescroll. OS is virtualised under virtualbox with latest addons for it. Any tips on restoring scroll functionality ? |
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| 14:36.52 | tuxcrafter | does somebody know how i get a scanner out of my list from scanimage -L |
| 14:36.58 | tuxcrafter | i got a few of them |
| 14:37.39 | mmnicolas | because there is more than one ? |
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| 14:38.14 | ChrisH | tuxcrafter: you want to remove one scanner from the list of shown devices or do you want to pick on of them to scan from this specific device? |
| 14:38.31 | tuxcrafter | i want to remove it because it is non reponsive |
| 14:38.32 | mmnicolas | anyways, it's from the same place you found -L, in the man page, first argument listed: scanimage [-d|--device-name dev] |
| 14:38.47 | tuxcrafter | and it makes xscan and such not continue to slect the other scanner |
| 14:38.48 | mmnicolas | oh to remove it, I don't think you can |
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| 14:38.59 | mmnicolas | what are theses devices ? |
| 14:39.17 | tuxcrafter | hpaio:/net/Officejet_J6400_series?ip=192.168.2.7 and hpaio:/net/Officejet_Pro_8500_A910?ip=192.168.240.65 |
| 14:39.42 | ChrisH | tuxcrafter: this hpaio is a network connected HP Officejet |
| 14:40.09 | mmnicolas | I'd try to see if you can disable it from the printers themselves |
| 14:40.19 | ChrisH | tuxcrafter: to remove them you most probaly need to check the SCSI remove commands, which I do not know. |
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| 14:42.38 | Jikan | Hi! How do I get i386 support on Wheezy amd64? It seems I have no way to install ia32libs because ia32-libs-i386 is not available… |
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| 14:44.15 | mmnicolas | Jikan: see the package multiarch-support, running steam and all here, no problem |
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| 14:44.39 | vaillor | somebody of you uses shared folders of vbox with debian? |
| 14:44.40 | themill | !upgrade ia32 libs |
| 14:44.41 | dpkg | The process of upgrading ia32* libraries to <multiarch> in <wheezy> is detailed in http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading#ia32libs . See http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new#multiarch and http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO for further details. |
| 14:44.58 | themill | Jikan: ^^ |
| 14:45.03 | Jikan | mmnicolas: multiarch-support is installed but it changes nothing |
| 14:45.08 | Jikan | Oh, some readings :D |
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| 14:47.32 | Geri___ | hello people from Debian. Quick (and maybe silly question): I am itching to install wheezy stable on my efika smartbook. Is there a release date/hour? I know the approx. date (4/5 may), but I wonder if that means midnight or "whenever we feel like it" (in that case i will permaF5 on debian.org). |
| 14:48.12 | themill | Geri___: if you installed it now, you'd get an identical installation to if you installed it on Monday |
| 14:49.08 | Geri___ | :s really? Without changing repos and all? (first time I install it myself, I always copied an image on my machine until now) |
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| 14:49.39 | mmnicolas | Geri___: just make sure your repos point to wheezy and not testing |
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| 14:50.09 | Jikan | themill: It was as simple as this ._. Thanks! |
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| 14:50.14 | zetheroo | I am trying to RDP into a Debian VM ... but its not working ... is there anything special I need to do on the Debian VM to get this to work? |
| 14:50.32 | Geri___ | well, that's cool folks, will try to install tonight (hoping this armhf port will do on my machine) |
| 14:50.39 | zetheroo | I get the error: Unable to connect to RDP server fawn |
| 14:50.48 | zetheroo | "fawn" is the name of the VM |
| 14:50.55 | mumpitze1 | zetheroo: no. you need to configure the VM software networking the right way |
| 14:51.13 | mumpitze1 | google doesn't know a fawn VM software. |
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| 14:51.26 | mumpitze1 | what's the VM software? |
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| 14:51.27 | mmnicolas | zetheroo: the default network setup usually places VMs in an isolated subnet |
| 14:51.57 | zetheroo | I have already setup networking bridging ... this is not the issue |
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| 14:52.14 | mumpitze1 | it most certainly is |
| 14:52.16 | zetheroo | the VM has a local IP address |
| 14:52.22 | mmnicolas | well its the first thing to look for |
| 14:52.37 | mumpitze1 | so have you checked via netstat if something is listening? |
| 14:53.54 | ChrisH | zetheroo: Did you enable remote access in vbox gui for this VM? |
| 14:54.19 | mmnicolas | I bet pastebining your bridge setup will be helpful |
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| 14:54.43 | vaillor | why automount won't work with built in debian guest additions? |
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| 14:55.48 | zetheroo | ChrisH: not using vbox ... this is a KVM setup |
| 14:55.59 | Mattix | almost cloned :) |
| 14:56.15 | ChrisH | zetheroo: Then I am out :) |
| 14:56.29 | zetheroo | anyhow ... the VM has a local IP and I have enabled remote desktop in the VM as well ... so it should be working ... :P |
| 14:56.50 | zetheroo | I am trying to remote to it using Remmina in Ubuntu |
| 14:56.58 | ChrisH | vaillor: "built in debian guest additions"? assuming its VBox. I did not hear about any builtin stuff. |
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| 14:57.47 | vaillor | ChrisH: i haven't installed guest additions, but there are and are running |
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| 14:58.00 | vaillor | so, debian installer installed them |
| 14:58.11 | Screwba | LSBinit anyone? Or can you point me somewhere that may? |
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| 14:58.19 | vaillor | modules are: vboxsf, vboxguest, nls_base |
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| 14:58.57 | ChrisH | vaillor: and you did setup the remote filesystem using the VBox GUI? |
| 14:59.05 | mumpitze1 | zetheroo: there is no "should be". check! |
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| 14:59.17 | mmnicolas | zetheroo: pastebin the bridge setup |
| 15:00.12 | zetheroo | if the VM has a local IP address what could be wrong with the bridge setup on the host!? |
| 15:00.15 | mmnicolas | has that ip been obtained from the local dhcp server ? does that even work ? |
| 15:00.27 | zetheroo | yes and yes |
| 15:00.34 | vaillor | ChrisH, no, just installed debian. only this |
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| 15:00.41 | zetheroo | I can ping it fine from the Ubuntu box |
| 15:01.01 | vaillor | ChrisH: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/31899/uninstalling-default-vboxguestadditions-on-debian |
| 15:01.08 | vaillor | as you can see... |
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| 15:01.16 | ChrisH | vaillor: From my memory you need to configure the share on the GUI, the host side |
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| 15:01.40 | vaillor | ChrisH, i done it, and i told it to automount shared folder at start |
| 15:01.46 | vaillor | but it won't mount |
| 15:01.48 | zetheroo | we have a fair few VMs on our 3 KVM servers ... but till now nobody has needed to remote to a Linux Desktop ... |
| 15:01.55 | vaillor | i need to mount shared folder manually |
| 15:01.59 | zetheroo | normally they just ssh into the VM's terminal |
| 15:02.27 | ChrisH | vaillor: it allways worked for me the past times. But I used the vbox extension aptitude offered me |
| 15:02.53 | zetheroo | from the Ubuntu machine I can ping the IP of the vm as well as it's name successfully |
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| 15:04.24 | Mattix | mmnicolas, wasn't it what you suggested? http://paste.kde.org/737042 |
| 15:04.34 | mmnicolas | zetheroo: can you portscan for 3389 ? is it open ? |
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| 15:05.38 | mmnicolas | Mattix: yea, pretty sure it has do be done on a mounted filesystem, not the block device directly |
| 15:05.49 | Andy80 | is it possible to schedule properly the apt-get update/upgrade of a debian server? I mean... not just using cron... maybe with some specific configuration/service etc... |
| 15:05.50 | Mattix | ah, ok |
| 15:06.04 | Mattix | then it's sdb1 |
| 15:06.06 | Mattix | let me see |
| 15:06.10 | zetheroo | mmnicolas: sorry, what command would I do that with? |
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| 15:06.18 | tort | lol |
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| 15:06.37 | Mattix | same error :| |
| 15:06.41 | mumpitze1 | Andy80: apt-cron? |
| 15:06.55 | mmnicolas | Mattix: no, its the mount point of sdb1, the result from something like mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usbkey, or just when you plug it and you can browse files |
| 15:07.11 | mumpitze1 | rather: cron-apt. of course it's generally a bad idea but it's possible |
| 15:07.30 | Mattix | yeah, yeah, I meant /media/CAM_SD, there is where sdb1 is mounted :P |
| 15:07.42 | Mattix | % sudo fsck.vfat -vru /media/CAM_SD/PRIVATE/AVCHD/BDMV/STREAM/00100.MTS recovered.mts |
| 15:07.44 | mmnicolas | zetheroo: nmap ? with -p3389 or you could achieve that with netstat too |
| 15:07.46 | Mattix | same error as before ^ |
| 15:07.56 | Andy80 | mumpitze1, apt-cron just run "apt-get update" it doesn't install the updates |
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| 15:13.38 | mmnicolas | Mattix: unmount it and try that: fsck.vfat -vru PRIVATE/AVCHD/BDMV/STREAM/00100.MTS /dev/sdb1 |
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| 15:14.32 | mmnicolas | I don't know from where I got the previous example and I just read the man page and this is the correct syntax |
| 15:14.46 | Mattix | PRIVATE/AVCHD/BDMV/STREAM/00100.MTS: Absolute path required. |
| 15:14.49 | Mattix | it's not hehe |
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| 15:15.00 | Mattix | I'll add the rest of the path |
| 15:15.25 | mmnicolas | isn't CAM_SD just the name of the key ? |
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| 15:15.38 | zetheroo | mmnicolas: does not seem to be any 3389 |
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| 15:16.24 | mmnicolas | zetheroo: any means of making sure the rdp service is running and listening properly ? or give it a try with x11vnc |
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| 15:16.48 | Mattix | http://paste.kde.org/737054/ |
| 15:17.01 | Mattix | mmnicolas, it somehow worked, I think ^ |
| 15:17.04 | devnull_ | anyone here familiar with freeradius? noone seems to be in the freeradius chatroom... Here is the question: I need an apache user who is in the freerad group to be able read /var/log/freeradius/radacct/ log files, however when freeradius writes these files they are written with 0600 permissions, how do I change this? |
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| 15:19.55 | abrotman | devnull_: so make the log 644 ? |
| 15:20.03 | Aktau | mmnicolas: I'm almost there with my dowload-extract-preseed-makeiso-writeiso script, thanks already for the help, it was invaluable! |
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| 15:21.11 | zetheroo | very strange that all the Windows VM's are accessible via RDP ... but not the Linux ones |
| 15:21.37 | mmnicolas | Aktau: no problem, let me know how it goes |
| 15:21.53 | zetheroo | I thought all you had to do was enable remote desktop sharing in Linux ... if not then what's the point of that GUI tool!? |
| 15:21.57 | mmnicolas | zetheroo: sounds a lot like the service is not running or configured the same way |
| 15:21.57 | Aktau | mmnicolas: I'll post it in a gist when I'm done |
| 15:24.32 | mumpitze1 | zetheroo: it's very strange that you are unwilling to actually check |
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| 15:24.43 | Mattix | mmnicolas, your first example was right, check here: http://kwlug.org/node/650 |
| 15:24.48 | zetheroo | to actually check what? :P |
| 15:24.49 | Mattix | though it doesn't work in my computer |
| 15:25.10 | mumpitze1 | zetheroo: < mumpitze1> so have you checked via netstat if something is listening? |
| 15:25.26 | zetheroo | does this tell you anything? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5629448/ |
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| 15:27.13 | mumpitze1 | zetheroo: are you running ubuntu or debian? |
| 15:27.29 | zetheroo | Debian on the VM I am trying to remote into |
| 15:27.29 | mmnicolas | Mattix: no quite, last argument wasnt the dev file, and when I suggested it with the dev file, I didn't think it would require a the full path with the mount point, because I just told it which partition :P I was never right actually |
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| 15:27.50 | mumpitze1 | zetheroo: and you ran this netstat on that debian installation? |
| 15:27.56 | zetheroo | yes |
| 15:28.07 | mumpitze1 | then no remote access program is running at all |
| 15:28.18 | Mattix | mmnicolas, anyway, it's not undeleting the file :P |
| 15:28.19 | zetheroo | heh ... great |
| 15:28.36 | zetheroo | so whats the GUI tool for then? Just another red herring I suppose!? |
| 15:28.43 | zetheroo | :-/ |
| 15:28.56 | mumpitze1 | which gui tool would that be? |
| 15:29.09 | STMelon | funny thing he states he is trying to remote into the debian box |
| 15:29.09 | STMelon | .:zetheroo:. Debian on the VM I am trying to remote into and yet comes back saying he did a netstat on the debian box? if he cant vm into the debian box? how can he do a netstat on that debian install? |
| 15:29.30 | mumpitze1 | STMelon: check it more carefully. ssh is running |
| 15:29.39 | STMelon | i saw 22 |
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| 15:29.55 | mumpitze1 | and you can never ever "vm into" anything |
| 15:29.56 | zetheroo | I go to Applications > System Tools > Prefs > Desktop Sharing ... |
| 15:30.29 | zetheroo | thats the tool that I used to enable desktop sharing ... |
| 15:30.58 | STMelon | vm virtual managerno shit sherlock |
| 15:31.11 | zetheroo | STMelon: LOL ... I am SSH'ed into it :P |
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| 15:32.34 | zetheroo | ok, well ... the weekend beckons me ... I have been pouring through forums and such for over 3 hours on this ... |
| 15:32.43 | zetheroo | next week I'll attack it again ;) |
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| 15:34.57 | mmnicolas | zetheroo: are talking about vino ? (looking like this: http://people.gnome.org/~markmc/vino-preferences-screenshot.png) because this is a vnc server, you won't connect to that via rdp |
| 15:35.41 | mmnicolas | -_- |
| 15:36.18 | Aktau | mmnicolas: very cool, qemu is at least booting my remade ISO, though I checked the actual command behind the "install" menu entry and it listed /cdrom/preseed.cfg as I planned. But when I actually clicked on it, it seems to stall |
| 15:36.24 | Aktau | Not sure if qemu is just "busy" or not |
| 15:37.18 | mmnicolas | Aktau: yea qemu without kvm is kinda slow, give it a few minutes or try it on bare metal |
| 15:38.01 | Aktau | Then I wonder how I enable KVM :) |
| 15:38.12 | Aktau | Don't have a spare bare metal system at the moment |
| 15:38.15 | Aktau | Next week at the earliest |
| 15:38.45 | mmnicolas | see the package qemu-kvm |
| 15:39.44 | Aktau | awesome |
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| 15:40.03 | Aktau | I can't remember loving an OS as much since I switched my main dev machine to OSX |
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| 15:49.18 | ksuhku | Hi! How come this directory is empty? http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/ |
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| 15:51.52 | Aktau | mmnicolas: ok so it's stalling all the time, but I tested the vanilla netinst and it also stalls. Maybe because it doesn't find a hard drive or something? |
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| 15:53.06 | Aktau | Found a handy wiki article on the debian wiki, gonna try some things from there |
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| 15:56.37 | Towzzer | ksuktu, isn't debian wheezy due out final soon |
| 15:56.39 | Towzzer | maybe thye are working on that |
| 15:57.47 | ksuhku | Towzzer, yeah maybe |
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| 16:06.46 | DarsVaeda | Hi, I want to use debian on m my desktop so I thought testing is the best version for me, when wheezy is out do I have to install wheezy testing or does jessie get testing then? |
| 16:07.09 | M-16 | qualcuno saprebbe dirmi dove trovare la cartella .mozilla su osx? |
| 16:07.35 | Aktau | mmnicolas: https://gist.github.com/Aktau/5510437 |
| 16:07.36 | Geri___ | M-16: con le preferenze e tutto il resto? |
| 16:08.19 | M-16 | Geri___, si quella cartella nascosat che sta nella tua home su linux |
| 16:09.14 | Geri___ | M-16: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/856113 non uso osx, ma magari questo aiuta |
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| 16:09.48 | M-16 | Geri___, ok, grazie |
| 16:10.32 | mumpitze1 | DarsVaeda: you will install wheezy and will stay on wheezy |
| 16:11.04 | Geri___ | come and play with us, *forever* |
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| 16:11.16 | DarsVaeda | So I install wheezy testing? |
| 16:11.21 | jelly-home | DarsVaeda: go ahead |
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| 16:11.45 | DarsVaeda | Okay thanks |
| 16:11.48 | jelly-home | install wheezy, and keep using wheezy for the time being |
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| 16:22.20 | Duality | how do i change the owner of a directory ? |
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| 16:22.40 | mumpitze1 | same as a file, unless you want to do it recursively for all files inside |
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| 16:22.53 | Duality | mumpitze1: uh how |
| 16:22.59 | mumpitze1 | chown |
| 16:23.01 | Duality | :) |
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| 16:23.38 | Duality | thanks! |
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| 16:25.11 | Jeudi | Is it possible to add a TV tuner to a headless server and access it across a LAN? |
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| 16:28.39 | petn-randall | Jeudi: You can do that with e.g. mythtv. |
| 16:28.41 | mumpitze1 | Jeudi: yes. myth tv |
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| 16:30.54 | Jeudi | petemc, mumpitze1 : hmm, looks suitable. Thanks :) |
| 16:31.00 | Jeudi | sorry, petn-randall |
| 16:31.06 | Duality | can you mount a drive to a folder that has already got stuff in it ? |
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| 16:31.16 | Jeudi | Duality: yes |
| 16:31.24 | petn-randall | Duality: Yes, though the stuff in it becomes unavailable. |
| 16:31.29 | Duality | hm |
| 16:31.32 | petn-randall | Duality: Try it out, you'll see what I mean. |
| 16:31.37 | Duality | i need it available :) |
| 16:32.15 | petn-randall | Duality: softlinks or bind mounts will help you there, depending on the specific case. |
| 16:32.20 | mumpitze1 | Duality: unionfs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UnionFS |
| 16:32.25 | Duality | just wondering though (random thoughts) |
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| 16:46.57 | r00t-err0r | AFK |
| 16:48.02 | Jeudi | where do I find drivers for TV tuners on Debian? |
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| 16:48.09 | Jeudi | USB TV tuners. |
| 16:48.14 | zinx | Jeudi: search for dvb |
| 16:48.26 | Jeudi | zinx: where? |
| 16:48.32 | mumpitze1 | apt-cache search |
| 16:48.46 | Jeudi | Ah. |
| 16:48.53 | mumpitze1 | tho, generally, drivers should already be present in the kernel. start with checking what hardware you have via lsusb |
| 16:49.06 | zinx | a lot of tuners need extra firmware |
| 16:49.59 | zinx | and you need programs to use the drivers, generally :P |
| 16:50.00 | Jeudi | So, what's the least complicated way of finding out what support there is for my usb tuner? |
| 16:50.11 | zinx | google the model name + "linux" |
| 16:50.24 | zinx | usually will be on the first page of hits :/ |
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| 16:51.04 | petn-randall | Jeudi: Plug it in, check /var/log/kern.log |
| 16:51.28 | petn-randall | Jeudi: If it says that it loaded a driver, I'd assume it'll work correctly. |
| 16:51.37 | mumpitze1 | petn-randall: not so |
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| 16:54.38 | Jeudi | Am I the only one getting a bit sick of web search being the portal to the internet? It's just so inefficient. |
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| 16:54.59 | Vicissitude | create something more efficient |
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| 16:55.35 | Jeudi | Vicissitude: not many film critics make films, but their opinion is highly-valued nonetheless… |
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| 16:56.58 | Vicissitude | doesn't work that way on the net |
| 16:57.54 | Jeudi | True. People are far less likely to treat others with respect on the internet. |
| 16:58.13 | LordDeath | is this weekend a busy debian-weekend? :-) |
| 16:58.15 | mumpitze1 | people are much more likely behaving like morons on the internet too |
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| 17:02.29 | Jeudi | mumpitze1: nah, people are equally likely to act like morons whether on or off the net. But on the net, it's on the record :) |
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| 17:03.44 | Mattix | mmnicolas, still around? are you sure fsck.vfat -rvu works? I couldn't recover anything |
| 17:04.47 | mumpitze1 | an fsck rarely recovers anything |
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| 17:05.16 | mumpitze1 | it usually brings back the filesystem to a defined state and deletes the data/files which cause the errors |
| 17:06.14 | Mattix | mumpitze1, the problem I have is that I deleted something accidentally (I know the exact path, size, etc) |
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| 17:07.21 | Mattix | mumpitze1, any idea? |
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| 17:13.19 | blubberdiblub | Mattix, have you tried the testdisk package? |
| 17:13.33 | Mattix | photorec? yes |
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| 17:13.56 | jhutchins_wk | In the command "${ENDIR}/sar $* -f ${DFILE} > ${RPT}" (quotes mine), what does $* do? |
| 17:14.13 | Mattix | it found a lot of files, but I don't know which one it is because a) all of them are smaller (around 600MB~1GB) and b) the file are renamed.. blubberdiblub |
| 17:14.31 | Mattix | s/file/files/ |
| 17:14.46 | blubberdiblub | jhutchins_wk, depends on if it's a script or a function. if it's a script, it inserts all command line options. if it's a function, it inserts all parameters |
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| 17:15.14 | blubberdiblub | Mattix, yeah, the different names are normal. it can't recover them |
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| 17:15.38 | Mattix | then how doyou tell which one it is? or actually, which ones you have to concat? |
| 17:15.51 | Mattix | and in what order |
| 17:15.57 | jhutchins_wk | blubberdiblub: Thanks, that makes sense. |
| 17:16.13 | blubberdiblub | Mattix, if none has the right size, it probably won't have recovered a working file for you |
| 17:16.31 | Mattix | :| |
| 17:16.48 | Mattix | I can't believe that, after it was deleted I didn't write anything else |
| 17:16.58 | Rusty1 | http://lde.sourceforge.net/ havent used it in years |
| 17:17.13 | Mattix | and it recovered really old files :P |
| 17:17.31 | blubberdiblub | Mattix, not having written anything is not the point. it can only recover files whose structure it knows about |
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| 17:17.58 | blubberdiblub | Mattix, and whose structure happens to help recover them |
| 17:18.10 | Mattix | blubberdiblub, it's a video, MTS video |
| 17:18.31 | blubberdiblub | Mattix, yeah, i've read that in the backlog, but it doesn't change what i said |
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| 17:19.51 | Mattix | is it possible that it recovered the video but it's now split? |
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| 17:20.43 | blubberdiblub | Mattix, the problem is it cannot know which sectors the file occupied and in which order. so it has to resort to looking at file contents and use data there to guess which sectors belong together and in which order. that doesn't always work. and for some file formats it works better that for others |
| 17:21.25 | blubberdiblub | Mattix, and if you want to do it by hand, you'll have the same problem. plus it's much harder doing it by hand |
| 17:21.51 | Mattix | provided the parts are of about 600MB, it's probably split in no more than 4 parts |
| 17:22.08 | Mattix | (in case it recovered all the parts!) |
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| 17:22.49 | blubberdiblub | Mattix, if it's in pieces, it's also quite likely that the pieces aren't intact themselves |
| 17:22.59 | Mattix | T________T |
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| 17:24.38 | Mattix | so I'm in trouble :) |
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| 17:24.48 | blubberdiblub | Mattix, if you want to try, start looking at the recovered stuff. for instance with "file", to identify what the files contain |
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| 17:25.03 | blubberdiblub | Mattix, and also with "hexdump -C" or "hd" |
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| 17:25.31 | Mattix | I can open them and watch each piece |
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| 17:26.07 | Jeudi | Sorry to be dumb, but do the drivers I have depend on the version of the kernel I'm running? |
| 17:26.45 | smw | Jeudi, most drivers are inside the kernel, yes |
| 17:27.14 | Jeudi | smw: how do I display my current kernel version? |
| 17:27.21 | smw | Jeudi, uname -a |
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| 17:28.10 | Jeudi | what version does wheezy ship with? |
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| 17:28.52 | smw | Jeudi, 3.2 |
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| 17:29.25 | Jeudi | smw: ah, fab, the driver I need ships with that, from what I read. Gues I can wait. Thanks :) |
| 17:29.41 | smw | Jeudi, you can install wheezy now |
| 17:29.46 | apm1 | Jeudi, what driver is it excatly ? |
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| 17:29.58 | smw | Jeudi, it is going to be released very very soon |
| 17:30.09 | Jeudi | smw: I can wait for the official release. no biggy. |
| 17:30.10 | apm1 | this weekend infact |
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| 17:30.37 | Jeudi | apm1: it's tv tuner driver. quite a rare tuner that needs compiled in to earlier kernels or something. |
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| 17:31.00 | apm1 | Jeudi, no idea abt tv tuners |
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| 17:33.11 | Jeudi | apm1: no worrys, i think it comes with 3.2 so the upgrade to wheezy should solve more than a few problems :) |
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| 17:48.07 | csgmta | http://csgmta.net/forum/index.php?action=forum |
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| 18:05.36 | ChemistryCow | *ahem* |
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| 18:06.42 | ChemistryCow | how do I link a terminal window to a different terminal (say, tty33 or whatever) |
| 18:07.16 | ChemistryCow | no? |
| 18:08.04 | ChemistryCow | ok |
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| 18:08.44 | ChemistryCow | oh well |
| 18:09.08 | ChemistryCow | i suppose i'll try #linux |
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| 18:11.49 | lokote_jones | Any one know why Debian would intermitantly disconnect the wireless network? Did some google and didn't see any thing solid to work from. It never says disconnected but it just "stops" |
| 18:11.49 | lokote_jones | Then I have to disconnect and reconnect to get it to work again. |
| 18:13.05 | tuxcrafter | so i got the issue that on heaffy network load i got a few dropped packages and such |
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| 18:13.13 | tuxcrafter | on my bonding with mtu9000 |
| 18:13.24 | tuxcrafter | with intel server cards |
| 18:13.30 | tuxcrafter | how can i make it more reliable |
| 18:13.42 | tuxcrafter | because i got lost apc ups status messages |
| 18:14.00 | tuxcrafter | and my corrosync cluster messages get messed up from time to time |
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| 18:18.23 | tuxcrafter | im turning all the offloads off with ethtool tso rx tx gso maybe it helps |
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| 18:32.11 | tuxcrafter | RX packets:18160509615 errors:0 dropped:71 overruns:68 frame:0 |
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| 18:34.24 | mechanicalduck | Hi |
| 18:34.25 | mechanicalduck | anyone? |
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| 18:34.49 | mechanicalduck | Is the default configuration of apt-cacher-ng containing all possible options? |
| 18:35.02 | mechanicalduck | Are there other options for it? Where are they documented? In man is nothing about them. |
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| 18:37.34 | mumpitze1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:39.00 | hjb | hi. do i have an error in my apt.sources or is SID still an linux kernel 3.2? |
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| 18:39.24 | hjb | my other gentoo box has already 3.7 running, so i think i might have miscofigured my debian |
| 18:39.59 | mumpitze1 | ,versions linux-image-amd64 |
| 18:40.03 | judd | Package: linux-image-amd64 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.6.32+29; squeeze-backports: 3.2+44~bpo60+1; squeeze-backports: 3.2+46~bpo60+1; sid: 3.2+46; wheezy: 3.2+46 |
| 18:40.39 | hjb | mumpitze1: hmm, ok |
| 18:40.41 | hjb | thanks |
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| 18:40.53 | vaillor | somebody of you uses debian as a vbox guest? |
| 18:41.09 | hjb | vaillor: sometimes |
| 18:41.17 | vaillor | i have a problem |
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| 18:41.21 | basso | vaillor: im running one right now |
| 18:41.38 | vaillor | shared folders dont automount |
| 18:41.46 | vaillor | i need to mount them manually |
| 18:41.47 | vaillor | why? |
| 18:41.56 | basso | and i cant get gnome-shell working |
| 18:41.57 | mumpitze1 | how would they automount? |
| 18:41.59 | basso | <.< |
| 18:42.13 | mumpitze1 | samba shares (what they basically are) don't automount either, do they? |
| 18:42.24 | vaillor | mumpitze1, is there a field to mount automatically in vbox shared folder config |
| 18:42.30 | vaillor | i checked it, but doesn't work |
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| 18:42.58 | mumpitze1 | the shares then exist permanently, but that can't mount them frm outside |
| 18:43.02 | basso | vaillor: i always mount them manually, never got that working |
| 18:43.14 | mumpitze1 | edit your fstab |
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| 18:43.50 | vaillor | i'd like to know why that option doesn't work |
| 18:44.22 | SmashingX | isn't the same a hardlink file and copy a file? |
| 18:44.32 | SmashingX | I should said a copy of the file |
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| 18:44.46 | mumpitze1 | no it's not the same |
| 18:45.00 | mumpitze1 | a hardlink means you have two directory entries for the same file |
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| 18:45.56 | SmashingX | two directory entries? |
| 18:45.59 | BCMM_ | i want a filesystem to be automatically mounted at boot time. however, in the event that it can not be mounted, I would like Debian to at least bring up the network and start sshd. what is the best way to achieve that? |
| 18:46.06 | SmashingX | are you talking then about directories or files? |
| 18:46.40 | BCMM_ | (as far as i know, if an FS it fstab fails to mount, boot stops and asks you what to do. not good for a headless box.) |
| 18:46.44 | BCMM_ | s/it/in/ |
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| 18:49.10 | Geri___ | I have a machine running Debian sid. Is it possible to install debian wheezy in it, from debian (i.e. without having to flash a SD / burn a CD / whatever) ? I found this http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds03.html.en , but I was looking more for a 'wipe all' thing. |
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| 18:51.02 | mechanicalduck | in some packages there is a build directory, e.g. apt-cacher-ng. |
| 18:51.08 | mechanicalduck | build/apt-cacher-ng -c conf should be run |
| 18:51.10 | mechanicalduck | what means this? |
| 18:51.13 | nkuttler | !tell Geri___ about debootstrap |
| 18:51.47 | nkuttler | Geri___: well, install and then wipe |
| 18:52.05 | nkuttler | Geri___: not sure what you want to wipe though... |
| 18:52.12 | Geri___ | old debian |
| 18:52.16 | Geri___ | which is debian sid |
| 18:52.24 | Geri___ | and possibly old config and all |
| 18:52.28 | Geri___ | want to start with a clean system |
| 18:52.42 | nkuttler | Geri___: do you have several hds or... ? |
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| 18:53.05 | Geri___ | no, just one SSD. |
| 18:53.28 | nkuttler | you should probably use the normal installer then.. |
| 18:53.39 | Geri___ | ok |
| 18:54.08 | nkuttler | you can also network boot and install if you don't have any medium |
| 18:54.18 | nkuttler | but you need a second box for that |
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| 18:55.39 | Geri___ | I have got a win box, will that be enough (tbh, I have got knoppix on a usb, too) |
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| 18:56.22 | nkuttler | Geri___: i don't think so. if your knoppix is +rw it should work though |
| 18:56.32 | apm1 | Geri___, i think you should just get the cd sized iso and burn it and install from it |
| 18:56.38 | nkuttler | Geri___: see http://wiki.debian.org/PXEBootInstall |
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| 18:57.07 | Geri___ | okie dokie pals |
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| 19:02.29 | pacop | io |
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| 19:03.17 | pacop | Finally I was able to fix the sound with OSS4 in wheezy making a clean minimum install of squeze, dist-upgrade and then installing oss4 from apt |
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| 19:03.30 | pacop | it should be some conflict with alsa/pulseaudio |
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| 19:30.04 | samuheart | Hello, do you know the exactly release time and date of Wheezy? |
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| 19:30.48 | samuheart | or where could I see the status |
| 19:30.50 | basso | samuheart: about tomorrow? |
| 19:31.01 | basso | topic says so |
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| 19:31.08 | innmalint | I'm considering whether I should update my kernel through the experimental repo or just configure/compile from kernel.org. any suggestions? |
| 19:32.07 | samuheart | basso: ok thank you. Ill wait. |
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| 19:35.34 | jhutchins_wk | samuheart: You should consider reading the /topic when you join a channel. |
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| 19:36.01 | jhutchins_wk | innmalint: Does it matter whether your system actually runs? |
| 19:36.19 | jhutchins_wk | ,kernels |
| 19:36.25 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.8-trunk-686-pae (3.8.5-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.41-2); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.41-2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.41-2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze1) |
| 19:36.29 | mechanicalduck | There is pulse audio, alsa and now oss... oh so many sound systems out there... |
| 19:36.46 | KsM | uh |
| 19:36.50 | Towzzer | in windows sound just works |
| 19:36.57 | KsM | isn't oss pretty much depreciated |
| 19:36.59 | jhutchins_wk | Towzzer: Not so much. |
| 19:37.07 | innmalint | i'm between 3.8.5 from experimental if the procedure is easier than doing 'make menuconfig' for 3.9 |
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| 19:37.14 | jhutchins_wk | KsM: oss4 is newish. |
| 19:37.18 | mechanicalduck | well, choice and interchangeability is not bad, but they are halfbaken somehow, e.g. they support different devices. |
| 19:37.24 | KsM | doesn't have alsa have support for oss though anyway |
| 19:37.48 | KsM | and pulseaudio isn't even a sound system on its own, it runs over alsa |
| 19:38.07 | jhutchins_wk | Runs over it and leaves tire tracks. |
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| 19:39.10 | jhutchins_wk | I think the biggest issue these days is that some programs expect alsa (skype) and some expect oss. Alsa's oss emulation works for most of the latter, but I don't know how oss4 handles the former. |
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| 19:39.28 | SmashingX | isn't the same a hardlink file and copy a file? |
| 19:39.35 | jhutchins_wk | There are other sound systems out there, I believe ltsp uses something else. |
| 19:39.45 | jhutchins_wk | SmashingX: No. |
| 19:39.50 | basic6 | How do I install Chromium/Chrome on Debian/kBSD Wheezy? |
| 19:40.03 | jhutchins_wk | SmashingX: If you delete a hardlink you delete the original as well. |
| 19:40.03 | SmashingX | ok why./ |
| 19:40.12 | SmashingX | rly? |
| 19:40.15 | SmashingX | no way |
| 19:40.17 | jhutchins_wk | SmashingX: If you alter a hardlink you alter the original. |
| 19:40.18 | SmashingX | let me try i tout |
| 19:40.53 | antun | hello folks, long story short ... i need to setup samba4 that will replace old w2k. How viable is samba4 as a replacement for newer windows AD. I don't have a lot of hardware to emulate the change so if somebody has some experiance, please share it with us. |
| 19:42.02 | SmashingX | jhutchins_wk: I just deleted the hardlink and the original is still there |
| 19:42.13 | SmashingX | your second statement was true though |
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| 19:46.40 | ftoledo | somebody know any script to generate a table list with each package with the version in each distribution? |
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| 19:47.33 | ftoledo | some like: |
| 19:47.34 | ftoledo | package|stable | testing| unstable |
| 19:47.34 | ftoledo | apt-utils| 1.0 | 1.2 | 1.4 |
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| 19:49.05 | jhutchins_wk | SmashingX: Yes, you're right. I was thinking of something else. |
| 19:49.20 | jhutchins_wk | SmashingX: http://www.linfo.org/hard_link.html |
| 19:49.36 | oo_miguel | In alsamixer I have 2 audio playback devices, one is my internal sound card, the other one my headphones. how can I route all the audio to the headphones, because now I just hear the sound through my regular speakers? |
| 19:49.47 | ftoledo | o wich script can genrate linke this: http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=matrix%40debian.org |
| 19:49.49 | SmashingX | jhutchins_wk: thanks for the link but I'm reading a book about that anyway |
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| 19:57.38 | JodaZ | which side did debian take, ffmpeg or libav ? |
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| 19:58.49 | sfan5 | JodaZ: if i'm not mistaken libav |
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| 19:58.59 | h00ked | i think so |
| 19:59.40 | JodaZ | ah, wait, its completely irrelevant anyways because theres no aac/h264/otheruseful stuff in debians build, is there ? |
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| 20:01.09 | isaias | my audio sometimes works, sometimes doesnt. One time I was playing my Radio Tray, then about an hour later I noticed that I had Pandora open, so I closed it and sound stopped...Opened Pandora and Radio Tray started working again... |
| 20:01.25 | isaias | yes, its werid like that... |
| 20:01.32 | isaias | any sudgestions? |
| 20:01.51 | isaias | suggestions* |
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| 20:16.40 | vaillor | what is apt-get autoremove ? |
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| 20:16.49 | onebitX | hi to all |
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| 20:17.49 | onebitX | dpkg-checkbuilddeps: error: cannot read debian/control: No such file or directory |
| 20:17.50 | onebitX | is this normal? |
| 20:18.04 | onebitX | i did this command dpkg-checkbuilddeps |
| 20:18.07 | Towzzer | apt-get autoremove removes packages you don't need anymore |
| 20:18.07 | onebitX | i am with debian sid |
| 20:18.12 | cra1g321 | vaillor - removes packages which programs no longer depend on |
| 20:18.19 | Towzzer | ones that were installed based on dependancies |
| 20:18.34 | onebitX | Towzzer: you talk to me? |
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| 20:18.56 | Towzzer | to vaillor |
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| 20:19.22 | onebitX | ah ok :D |
| 20:19.24 | vaillor | ok, thank you |
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| 20:29.50 | rwp | onebitX, dpkg-checkbuilddeps operates on control files. If you don't have one then what are you trying to do? |
| 20:30.55 | rwp | onebitX, The idea is that you have a project directory with a control file. It declares dependencies in that file. It checks the system against the requirements stated in that control file. |
| 20:31.03 | onebitX | rwp: i want to test that my system don't have broken packages |
| 20:31.15 | rwp | onebitX, Then: apt-get install -f |
| 20:31.19 | onebitX | rwp: aaaah ok i undrstand |
| 20:31.37 | onebitX | rwp: i already di apt-get check && apt-get install -f |
| 20:31.46 | onebitX | without prolems, so it's all ok? |
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| 20:32.26 | rwp | That seems okay to me. |
| 20:32.29 | louisdk | I'm trying to play 720p video over nfs on local network via lan but it lacks. Any tips on debugging? |
| 20:32.36 | rwp | It is very unusual to have broken packages. |
| 20:32.55 | rwp | Sounds like you have a guilty concious that you may have done something which may have broken your system? :-) |
| 20:33.19 | onebitX | rwp: yes!!!:D |
| 20:33.23 | rwp | If you want a second double check then 'apt-get install debsums' and then 'debsums -c' for a crosscheck. |
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| 20:33.40 | onebitX | i put non ufficial repo |
| 20:33.57 | onebitX | i put siduction repos, with lmde repos and upgrade my sid system |
| 20:34.31 | onebitX | i know that isn't good, but i did it only to have kde4.10.2 |
| 20:34.32 | rwp | Then 'apt-get install apt-show-versions' and 'apt-show-versions | grep -v uptodate' and see what is installed that isn't strictly available. Needs review. Mostly okay even if you have a handful or three. |
| 20:35.17 | onebitX | rwp: E: Unable to locate package apt-show-versions and apt-show-versions |
| 20:35.18 | onebitX | o,o |
| 20:35.18 | rwp | Good for identifying what you have installed and where it came from. |
| 20:35.34 | onebitX | sorry |
| 20:35.41 | rwp | That should be in Debian main. |
| 20:36.07 | onebitX | rwp: thanks, it's very good |
| 20:36.07 | onebitX | nvidia-kernel-3.2.0-4-amd64 304.88-1+3.2.41-2 newer than version in archive |
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| 20:36.12 | onebitX | i have only my nvidia driver |
| 20:36.33 | onebitX | rwp: but it's strange because i have all kdelfull 4.10.2 installed |
| 20:36.34 | rwp | Sounds like you are all good then. No worries. |
| 20:36.54 | rwp | If you still have the sources.list then it will still be "uptodate" from there. |
| 20:37.11 | onebitX | ok |
| 20:37.16 | rwp | Also don't forget that non-debian stuff often install /etc/apt/sources.list.d/junk that hides there. |
| 20:37.20 | onebitX | i learn new thing |
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| 20:37.40 | onebitX | rwp: i added all repos by hand under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ |
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| 20:37.50 | onebitX | * /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 20:37.53 | rwp | Try 'apt-show-versions | grep kde' and see where it says things come from. |
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| 20:38.24 | onebitX | rwp: kde-workspace-bin/unstable uptodate 4:4.10.2-3~siduction1 |
| 20:38.29 | onebitX | good? |
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| 20:38.48 | onebitX | oxygencursors/sid uptodate 0.0.2012-06-kde4.8-2.1 |
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| 20:39.25 | onebitX | someone packages are 4.8 |
| 20:39.53 | rwp | The string there depends upon what you listed in sources.list. If "sid" then it will show sid. If "unstable" it will show unstable. If something else to another site then it will show that. |
| 20:40.21 | rwp | That version does seem to indicate a non-debian source. But you said that is what you wanted. So that is okay, right? |
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| 20:40.39 | onebitX | perfect |
| 20:40.44 | onebitX | rwp: you are awesome, thanks very much |
| 20:40.58 | onebitX | i am very happy that i finnally installed debian :) |
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| 20:42.05 | rwp | Debian is often people's "second" distribution. They only appreciate it after having suffered through another one. |
| 20:42.17 | rwp | And having arrived at Debian and appreciating it then they decide to stay. :-) |
| 20:42.50 | onebitX | i tried to install debian a lot of time, but this is the first time that i decide |
| 20:42.58 | onebitX | let's do evering unstable :D |
| 20:43.24 | onebitX | so i downloaded debian wheezy and upgrade to sid, than i add all repos |
| 20:43.46 | onebitX | for me it's more stable than kubuntu :D |
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| 20:44.20 | rwp | Sid version of kde-workspace-bin is 4:4.8.4-6 for reference. |
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| 20:45.01 | rwp | Stable has three repos. There is the main repos. Then there are squeeze-updates. Then security at squeeze/updates. |
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| 20:45.31 | rwp | Same thing in two days time when Wheezy promotes to Stable. main, wheezy-updates and wheezy/updates. |
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| 20:45.38 | onebitX | rwp: but apt-show-versions | grep -v uptodate don't display it |
| 20:46.07 | rwp | But for Sid there is really only the need for main. There isn't security upgrades and no stable upgrades since they all flow through unstable. So only one for Sid. |
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| 20:46.50 | rwp | apt-show-versions only shows what is installed. And I used grep -v to filter out all of the things that I thought were in the main depot. But you also have the other depot in sources.list* too so it will also be "uptodate" there too. |
| 20:47.07 | onebitX | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhaaaa |
| 20:47.14 | onebitX | ok i understand |
| 20:47.16 | onebitX | sorry |
| 20:47.16 | rwp | Maybe I shouldn't have suggeted that command. It is useful and provides information. But don't be confused by it. |
| 20:47.27 | onebitX | i thought it check de ufficial repo |
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| 20:47.53 | rwp | Try: apt-cache policy |
| 20:48.08 | rwp | It will dump out a complicated set of lines that show where apt will look for packages. |
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| 20:49.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions texlive-luatex |
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| 20:49.08 | judd | Package: texlive-luatex on i386 -- squeeze: 2009-11+squeeze1; sid: 2012.20120611-5; wheezy: 2012.20120611-5; experimental: 2012.20130315-1 |
| 20:49.14 | rwp | It should show that you have the other non-debian repository in your list too. And the priority. |
| 20:49.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | duh |
| 20:49.28 | onebitX | rwp: yes! |
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| 20:50.24 | rwp | And try: 'apt-cache policy kde' where "kde" is one of your kde packages. (I didn't know a particular name to use.) |
| 20:50.54 | rwp | That will show the version you have installed and the possible set of package versions available and where. |
| 20:51.59 | rwp | I operate under the idea that information and learning leads to good judgement decisions. You get information. You learn. You make better decisions. |
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| 20:52.33 | rwp | And with that I need to take off for a while. |
| 20:52.50 | rwp | leaves the keyboard |
| 20:53.30 | onebitX | rwp: yes, it tell me that 4.10.2 is in siduction repo, and 4.8 in ufficial repo |
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| 21:00.08 | sphenxes | is acidrip or dvdrip availabe on wheezy |
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| 21:02.07 | mtn | sphenxes: packages.debian.org |
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| 21:05.04 | nickgaw | Hi, In debian wheezy I have a my book and my passport both 2 TB and wish to copy all files and directories from one to the other and have both of them mounted with ntfs-3g what command can I type in to copy everything from /mnt/hd2 to /mnt/hd1? |
| 21:06.02 | sphenxes | mtn, thanks |
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| 21:06.21 | mtn | sphenxes: welcome |
| 21:06.39 | nickgaw | would using rsync be best if I wish to keep all of them up to date frequently if so what command could I use to do this? |
| 21:06.50 | markovh | nickgaw: yep |
| 21:07.34 | nickgaw | so for one folder to mainly see if it would work what would I type? |
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| 21:27.59 | joachimhs | To install Debian on a Mac Mini (most recent model), do I download the amd64 or the i386 image ? |
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| 21:28.20 | sphenxes | nickgaw, rsync -rvh /dir1/dir /dir4/ |
| 21:28.22 | xreal | !seen Debian7 |
| 21:28.24 | dpkg | debian7 <~svn@184.172.180.250> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 182d 28m 28s ago, saying: 'damit debian7'. |
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| 22:19.22 | Sephora64400 | Bonjour a touus!!! |
| 22:20.23 | mmnicolas | Sephora64400: there is a $debianfr on freenode if you'd like |
| 22:20.27 | mmnicolas | #debianfr |
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| 22:48.05 | SARC | I recompiled a package.... in apt-get remove, the package name is followed by a star (grub2*) .. does that mean that my recompiled package was installed? |
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| 23:15.18 | indiechaser | hola en español? |
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| 23:16.10 | Boohbah | indiechaser: /join #debian-es |
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| 23:16.32 | Boohbah | aqui es en ingles |
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| 23:23.21 | zykotick9 | AlexLikeRock: even the day isn't established, 4/5 (from Topic), so the time certainly isn't. |
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| 23:33.12 | kyconquers | will <setfacl -R --modify group:www-data:2 ./ > make all newly created files under the current directory have the group www-data? |
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| 23:34.48 | lakcaj | If I come back to my machine to find it frozen, no response from the mouse, ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't take me to a tty, where can I find out what caused the freeze after I reboot the box? |
| 23:35.18 | basso | lakcaj: the syslog? |
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| 23:35.46 | zianya_ | fuck ubuntu |
| 23:35.54 | AlexLikeRock | hah a ha hah |
| 23:36.06 | AlexLikeRock | what happen zianya_ ? |
| 23:36.13 | Supaplex | zianya_: will the real Debian please stand up? ;) |
| 23:36.24 | zianya_ | I'm trying to install a linux distro to my girlfriend, si I thought in ubuntu |
| 23:36.44 | zianya_ | the shut after reboot, makes my laptop does not recognize the operative system, says no operative system found |
| 23:36.54 | zianya_ | and this is what is creating in the partitions tables, look: |
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| 23:37.09 | Supaplex | is it still running ubuntu? or would you like to install debian? |
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| 23:38.30 | zianya_ | well seems ubuntu is not even able to do an installation correctly |
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| 23:39.00 | AlexLikeRock | :-) |
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| 23:39.12 | zianya_ | http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/201305031837031280x800s.png/ |
| 23:39.13 | AlexLikeRock | they are not stable |
| 23:39.23 | zianya_ | is that correct? a fat32 partition? with boot flag??? |
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| 23:39.59 | kyconquers | how can I set the default group of newly created file in a directory? can this only be done with an ACL? |
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| 23:41.06 | AlexLikeRock | you must delet this partition "fat32" |
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| 23:42.11 | AlexLikeRock | zianya_, they are from w-7 ? |
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| 23:44.16 | r00t-err0r | AFK |
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| 23:45.10 | dizzylizzy | I'm in a virtual terminal in rescue mode from the netinstall disc. my root is my debian system root. I'm here because of grub issues. :P I had installed Fedora to an extra partition and it wrote its own grub over Debian's grub on /dev/sda. I couldn't easily get fedora's grub menu to list debian, so i booted this netinstall disc, chrooted to my root partition, and ran "grub-mkconfig" and "grub-install /dev/sda" -- now grub starts up and it says "Wel |
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| 23:46.02 | dizzylizzy | I'd like to get my pretty grub back :-/ |
| 23:46.12 | dizzylizzy | and be able to boot into debian. thanks in advance |
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| 23:47.56 | AlexLikeRock | do you reinstall grub ? |
| 23:48.08 | lakcaj | kyconquers, if you want the files to have the same group as the parent directory then you can chmod g+s the directory |
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| 23:48.16 | Bert_2 | Hi, I'm part of ULYSSIS, a students organisation whom supplies IT and more specifically hosting to the students and student unions at the University of Leuven. Currently we use backuppc to backup our many seperate servers (database, logging, web, shell, ldap, dns, etc.). Now backuppc seems to have some difficulty backupping all our nfs-homes, databases, svn-shares and server configs consistently as it doesn't seem to have been |
| 23:48.17 | Bert_2 | created for the purpose we're using it for, therefore I'm looking for a replacement. I looked at Amanda, Bacula and Areca, but I'm not all that sure whether they really fit. Does anyone have a suggestion? |
| 23:48.19 | dizzylizzy | AlexLikeRock, Yes, I ran "grub-install /dev/sda" |
| 23:48.22 | zianya_ | AlexLikeRock: no, ubuntu is creating it |
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| 23:49.17 | AlexLikeRock | dizzylizzy, do you done with out problems ? |
| 23:49.37 | zianya_ | but why |
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| 23:49.44 | kyconquers | lakcaj, I know how to change them manually with chmod, but I need the newly created files to have the group. |
| 23:49.45 | AlexLikeRock | what thing about grub-update ? |
| 23:50.10 | zianya_ | sudo: grub-update: command not found |
| 23:50.35 | zykotick9 | it's "update-grub" |
| 23:50.50 | AlexLikeRock | jejej, sorry every time i confused |
| 23:50.52 | AlexLikeRock | :-P |
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| 23:51.00 | AlexLikeRock | tanks zykotick9 |
| 23:51.05 | kyconquers | lakcaj, I have seen this done on a user basis as well, and that would work. I just need all files created by bob (who is in the www-data group) to be owned by the www-data group without me having to run chown each time. |
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| 23:52.51 | AlexLikeRock | zianya_, ubuntu like's Micro$oft thats why |
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| 23:53.17 | AlexLikeRock | dizzylizzy, what thing about grub-update ? |
| 23:53.24 | dizzylizzy | I'll try that |
| 23:53.35 | AlexLikeRock | ***update-grub |
| 23:54.14 | zianya_ | AlexLikeRock: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of /cow. |
| 23:54.34 | AlexLikeRock | zianya_, this its a DEBIAN channel |
| 23:55.16 | AlexLikeRock | sorry about , ubutu have they own problems |
| 23:55.32 | zianya_ | im gonna install debian anyway |
| 23:55.35 | zianya_ | let me go and buy a cd |
| 23:55.35 | zianya_ | brb |
| 23:56.14 | AlexLikeRock | when i say "what thing about grub-update ?" i tell to dizzylizzy |
| 23:56.31 | AlexLikeRock | ahah ahhah buy |
| 23:56.49 | AlexLikeRock | you can doit on USB drive , |
| 23:57.05 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:57.06 | AlexLikeRock | :-) |
| 23:57.28 | zianya_ | but the usb is being used right now as live cd with ubuntu |
| 23:57.36 | zianya_ | because seems i dont have an os installed |
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| 23:57.47 | zianya_ | can i use this usb even if it is being used as live cd? don't think so |
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| 23:57.53 | AlexLikeRock | you ting you will need UBUNTU more ? |
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| 23:58.21 | AlexLikeRock | go for a new DVD |
| 23:58.31 | indiechaser1 | hi guys |
| 23:58.34 | AlexLikeRock | hi |
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| 23:58.56 | indiechaser1 | wich backup util do you recommend? |
| 23:58.58 | lakcaj | kyconquers, did you try it? Create a directory called testdir, then chmod someuser:www-data testdir. After that, chmod g+s testdir. Now, any file you create in that directory will have the www-data group |
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| 23:59.27 | lakcaj | sorry, chmod someuser:www-data should be chown someuser:www-data testdir |
| 23:59.56 | dizzylizzy | I think I figured out what the problem was. the root for the rescue terminal was /dev/vg0/root, and I manually mounted my home (/dev/vg0/home), but I never had mounted /dev/sda1 to /boot |
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