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| 00:02.05 | ChibaPet | halim: Yes, but let me look. I believe you can blacklist the driver, but my memory is hazy. |
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| 00:03.42 | halim | ChibaPet, i just tried this command: update-rc.d bluetooth remove but the bluetooth icon is still there |
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| 00:03.51 | halim | so i don't know whether it worked or not |
| 00:03.56 | ChibaPet | halim: Try making a file "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf" and adding "blacklist bluetooth" to it, and restarting. |
| 00:04.06 | halim | this was the output of the command: update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing |
| 00:04.24 | ChibaPet | halim: You want to have the module not load, and you probably want to restart with it blacklisted to make sure that's happening correctly. |
| 00:05.05 | ChibaPet | halim: If you're doing this for power savings, something to try is installing powertop and exploring what it tells you. I get vast savings on my Eee PC using suggestions from powertop; |
| 00:05.25 | halim | i see, thank you |
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| 00:10.32 | halim | right, that's out of the way, thanks again ChibaPet |
| 00:10.41 | ChibaPet | halim: Sure thing, enjoy. |
| 00:11.35 | halim | one last thing that's bugging me is the screen brightness, i have to turn it down using the hotkeys (fn+down arrow) everytime i restart, is there a way to permanently save it? |
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| 00:14.32 | ChibaPet | halim: Not sure about that one. If you're using a desktop environment, they might provide a tool for that. What are you running? |
| 00:14.51 | halim | gnome |
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| 00:16.03 | ChibaPet | halim: I'd look at the Gnome control panel, monitors section if there is one, power saving section maybe. I don't run it myself so I'm not remembering, but there might be a default brightness setting there. If not, you might find some ways to do it by hand through some web searching. |
| 00:17.06 | ChibaPet | halim: Links like this might provide some clues, if Gnome won't do it for you: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1223023 |
| 00:17.27 | halim | ok, thanks |
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| 00:22.28 | descention | I'm having an issue with the debian installer: http://nopaste.info/efc2447475.html |
| 00:23.01 | jgiorgi | i have manually (from source) reinstalled dpkg and debconf but still get errors attempting to install by apt-get/aptitude, how can i completely replace dpkg |
| 00:23.32 | ChibaPet | jgiorgi: You very seriously want to stop and re-examine any statement where you ask how to replace dpkg. |
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| 00:24.18 | jgiorgi | ChibaPet, given that i've broken it and reinstalling from source didnt correct the issue i dont know what else to do, a better question would be how do i completely reinstall dpkg |
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| 00:25.12 | jgiorgi | i'm hoping to avoid an OS reinstall but without assistance that is the only option i can think of |
| 00:25.29 | ChibaPet | jgiorgi: I'm sorry that this won't be completely helpful, but a method doesn't come to mind that seems like it could possibly work, dpkg itself being critical to the operation. I'd maybe download the Debian package for it and try to forceably install it with dpkg. |
| 00:26.02 | ChibaPet | jgiorgi: I'd be thinking about an OS install myself, but for now, maybe try downloading the .deb and trying it with dpkg -i, assuming you have some sort of dpkg available. |
| 00:26.19 | jgiorgi | i dont, i did a source install which effectively did nothing |
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| 00:26.49 | ChibaPet | jgiorgi: If you don't have a working dpkg of any sort, you might be able to break apart the deb you download and run the pieces by hand, but if it were me, I bet it'd be quicker and ultimately cleaner to reinstall. |
| 00:27.12 | Mikicacarica | http://tiny.cc/tf4tww |
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| 00:27.34 | descention | can anyone tell me why in chroot, I get one set of uuid's from 'blkid' and a different set in '/dev/disk/by-uuid/' ? |
| 00:27.40 | descention | mount |
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| 00:31.10 | histo | descention: Is just one of them off? |
| 00:31.55 | histo | descention: extended partition entries get a uuid in blkid but not in /dev/disk/by-uuid/ |
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| 00:34.34 | Mikicacarica | Watch Chicago vs Miami LIVE here ---> http://tiny.cc/tf4tww |
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| 00:35.37 | descention | histo: they're all different |
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| 00:43.39 | descention | I don't understand how blkid and /dev/disk/by-uuid are different on both my debian installer and the chroot: http://nopaste.info/14368ee858.html |
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| 00:47.51 | histo | descention: because you probably didn't bind mount /dev |
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| 00:58.16 | evanton | are there any tools designed to help by automating the sync between debian distributions? use case: two debian systems, same version. one stable, another testing or unstable. I install some packages in stable, I want a way to get the same in the other one |
| 00:58.45 | evanton | should I keep notes manually or there's a tool that can track what's installed and export the list to be used on another distro? |
| 00:59.05 | ChibaPet | evanton: Note that available packages will drift with time. |
| 00:59.24 | ChibaPet | evanton: I'd keep notes and in those notes track when packages change. |
| 00:59.36 | ChibaPet | ...and track what you need to do to maintain the most accurate possible map. |
| 00:59.46 | histo | evanton: dpkg --get-selections |
| 01:00.07 | ChibaPet | histo: ...with the caveats I noted. |
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| 01:00.29 | histo | evanton: and dpkg --set-selections and ofcourse with ChibaPet's advice about drift |
| 01:01.15 | evanton | histo: oh great, so after each install I can save the output of dpkg --get-selections, eventually sort it and save diffs as reference |
| 01:01.20 | firztspawn | hi all, just updated my install of Debian stable, and notice some init FAIL messages on boot... is there a boot log that I can have a look at these FAIL? |
| 01:01.22 | evanton | this sounds like a plan |
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| 01:01.54 | histo | evanton: no you can make a list on one machine and use set-sellections on the other to ensure they match |
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| 01:02.20 | histo | firztspawn: /var/log/messages |
| 01:02.26 | evanton | that's even better, thank you |
| 01:02.32 | firztspawn | ty |
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| 01:11.31 | ChibaPet | Hrm. |
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| 01:11.33 | ChibaPet | So, I wonder if anyone has ideas here. I'm new to LXC, and I'm getting odd messages from the system start-up scripts... For instance, it's giving me lots of messages saying that I'm not root but I'm trying to do rootly things. I've followed the wiki instructions fairly closely. Ideas? |
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| 01:14.05 | ChibaPet | Trying again with a different architecture. I was trying i386 with my amd64 host. Now trying amd64 on amd64. |
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| 01:14.36 | descention1 | ls |
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| 01:14.45 | ChibaPet | I tried that. |
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| 01:14.54 | descention1 | that was a misstype |
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| 01:15.03 | descention1 | I'm having trouble with debian-installer |
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| 01:15.49 | MachinaeWolf | Are there any updates for the new testing yet, so far I don't think I got any? |
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| 01:17.01 | ChibaPet | MachinaeWolf: My understanding (and someone will correct this if I'm wrong) is that generally things are stable in Sid for ten days or somesuch before moving to Testing. So new things in Sid won't likely move to Jessie this soon. I could be totally off. |
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| 01:29.21 | descention1 | is anyone familiar with the inner workings of debian installer? |
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| 01:29.32 | dvs | !ask |
| 01:29.34 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 01:29.41 | descention1 | I have been |
| 01:29.51 | descention1 | I'm having issues like this: http://nopaste.info/efc2447475.html |
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| 01:30.11 | descention1 | and I don't know what my uuid's are different: http://nopaste.info/14368ee858.html |
| 01:30.45 | descention1 | and my mount points look right to me: http://nopaste.info/bb5536fd0c.html |
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| 01:37.48 | descention1 | can anyone provide me with any insight on my issue? |
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| 01:37.48 | blackalt | descention1: what issue? |
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| 01:37.58 | descention1 | debian installer is failing http://nopaste.info/efc2447475.html and is't got something to do with my uuid's http://nopaste.info/14368ee858.html |
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| 01:43.36 | blackalt | descention1: looks like it's failing when the installing is checking your disks partitions using persistent names, like here (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Persistent_block_device_naming) |
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| 01:45.14 | somiaj_ | though if he mounted his /dev, /proc, /sys inside teh chroot, it should have the same naming as the host |
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| 02:14.35 | Matip | so.. do you know how to fix the tilde problem I'm facing? |
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| 02:15.37 | ChibaPet | Maybe I need to give up and just use KVM after all. |
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| 03:13.05 | loaden | #flood /home/ |
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| 03:18.07 | idler420 | heyyyy |
| 03:18.10 | idler420 | sup guys |
| 03:18.16 | idler420 | anyone use i3 |
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| 03:26.34 | loaden | It's a bug? or expected? error message: `the gateway address you entered is unreachable`, address: 192.168.*6*.159, gateway: 192.168.*5*.253, notice the *x* quote number is not same. |
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| 03:32.08 | loaden | It's a bug? or expected? When I configure the network for install Wheezy, I got this error: `<title>Unreachable gateway</title> <content>The gateway address you entered is unreachable.<p>You may have made an error entering your IP address, netmask and/or gateway.</content>`, address: 192.168.*6*.159, gateway: 192.168.*5*.253, notice the *x* quote number is not same. |
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| 03:34.13 | gasull | apt-bugs shows the message "grub2-common: After Grub 2.00-14 upgrade, system failed to boot (rescue, old grub 1.99 still in mbr)" |
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| 03:34.48 | gasull | I'm pretty afraid of running the upgrade grub2-common (1.99-27.1 -> 2.00-14) |
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| 03:35.22 | gasull | Has someone run it? |
| 03:37.03 | habstinat | How can I remove UEFI boot support from Debian installation ISOs, or find ISOs without UEFI? My computer won't boot drives that support UEFI as per <https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Remove_UEFI_boot_support_from_ISO>, so the regular Debian images don't work. |
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| 03:48.06 | somiaj_ | habstinat: you could grab a squeeze netinstall, install a base system and upgrade it to wheezy |
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| 03:49.55 | descention | is there a way to tell the debian installer to use labels instead of uuid's for creating the target's fstab? |
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| 03:58.12 | Matip | OMG, I can't believe it's that hard to config a keyboard correctly.. that's why I don't recommend linux to people not willing to spend hoursssss solving silly problems -.-" |
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| 04:02.30 | somiaj_ | Matip: what was hard, to much different info? |
| 04:03.04 | Matip | I tried like n things already, nothing works :P |
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| 04:18.07 | uwjesq | Hello. I am getting some errors when I run reconfigure -a (see first line for command) http://nopaste.info/53318159ee.html |
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| 04:20.38 | uwjesq | That's grub, I need grub to work. |
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| 04:26.21 | uwjesq | Matip: Hint: If you tell people what you problem is, they can try to help you. |
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| 04:27.16 | salack | hello |
| 04:27.25 | uwjesq | Matip: Also GNU/Linux (tm) is not hard. |
| 04:27.31 | Matip | uwjesq, I already did, use your scroll :) |
| 04:27.46 | salack | i am thinking about switching distros |
| 04:28.07 | salack | i am currentply using slackware but it is a pain in the ass to download anything |
| 04:28.18 | uwjesq | Matip: Sorry I wasted that ten seconds. Good luck getting help with that attitude. |
| 04:28.42 | salack | so who whats to tell me about debian :D |
| 04:28.57 | uwjesq | salack: Me, me. |
| 04:29.14 | salack | what software does it come with |
| 04:29.59 | uwjesq | salack: You can look the packages up on this page http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages over 30000 |
| 04:30.50 | descention | is there a way to tell the debian installer to use labels instead of uuid's for creating the target's fstab? |
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| 04:34.15 | mmnicolas | descention: changing it afterwards is as easy as it would be to select it from the installer |
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| 04:34.28 | descention | I have to change it during installation |
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| 04:34.47 | descention | and apparently install u-boot-tools manually from the chroot too |
| 04:34.56 | mmnicolas | why ? |
| 04:35.18 | descention | there are two different uuid's that reference the same device |
| 04:35.44 | descention | blkid and fstab reference one set. /dev/disk/by-uuid references a different set |
| 04:35.57 | descention | so, I fixed that myself with using labels |
| 04:36.02 | mmnicolas | how is that even possible |
| 04:36.05 | descention | no idea |
| 04:36.14 | descention | http://nopaste.info/14368ee858.html |
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| 04:36.57 | descention | I finally got installation past flashing the kernel |
| 04:37.02 | descention | also, I'm on an armel nas |
| 04:37.53 | descention | after working on this for two days, I finally got installation to complete! |
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| 04:40.23 | mmnicolas | but what is that extra UUID ? |
| 04:40.43 | descention | extra? there isn't an extra. there's a ocmpletely different set. |
| 04:40.59 | mmnicolas | oh right |
| 04:41.23 | uwjesq | salack: Do you like what you see? |
| 04:41.44 | uwjesq | I have this symlink to a binary which does not work when I execute it. Running the binary directly works though. This is my output http://nopaste.info/36f9e64689.html |
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| 04:42.33 | salack | once you install debian how much is configured for you |
| 04:43.12 | salack | cause i need it to be configured fast |
| 04:44.40 | uwjesq | salack: There is normal and advanced setup. I prefer advanced but you can do the normal one it is pretty fast in my opinion. |
| 04:45.00 | salack | oh ok |
| 04:46.03 | salack | i think i am going to install it today |
| 04:46.30 | uwjesq | salack: Use another machine if you are not sure. |
| 04:46.53 | mmnicolas | or a virtual machine |
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| 04:49.10 | descention | I am so happy I finally figured out what to do from reading logs |
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| 05:01.04 | cusco | hi |
| 05:01.22 | uwjesq | Hello. |
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| 05:15.14 | uwjesq | Hello. When trying to upgrade I get an error message for winbind package: Input + Output + Trace -> http://nopaste.info/d85e3817dc.html |
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| 05:16.13 | CableNinja | what CD's do I need to do a base install, with no tasksel selections? How can I get these booting from a single usb stick (2GB)? unetbootin hdmedia wont find the cd's when I try to boot |
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| 05:20.46 | uwjesq | CableNinja: Netinstall. Unetbootin should have that. |
| 05:21.09 | uwjesq | CableNinja: And a network connection of course. |
| 05:21.17 | CableNinja | uwjesq: cant netinstall, location has no cables, and afaik wifi isnt available for installs |
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| 05:22.47 | uwjesq | CableNinja: Try wifi. |
| 05:23.01 | uwjesq | CableNinja: Or CDs/DVDs. |
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| 05:23.12 | ectospasm | unetbootin chokes on Debian images... |
| 05:23.21 | CableNinja | ectospasm: ok, so its not just me then |
| 05:23.24 | ectospasm | at least in my experience. |
| 05:23.49 | CableNinja | unless I did it wrong.. which is also entirely possible, I did it 10 minutes before I left for work |
| 05:23.59 | uwjesq | ectospasm: I installed debian a few times with unetbootin from USB drive with netinstall. |
| 05:24.01 | ectospasm | if loading the image from Windows, use pendrivelinux. |
| 05:24.26 | CableNinja | I dont have a cd/dvd drive on my system, and it wont accept a usb cd drive (for a dumb reason) |
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| 05:24.42 | ectospasm | uwjesq: you appear to be an exception |
| 05:24.48 | CableNinja | ectospasm: ok, I'll try that, I've got a windows system I can use... actually I think I used pendrive last time too |
| 05:25.02 | CableNinja | which would explain why that stick was dubiously labled 'pendrive' |
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| 05:58.34 | PandaFoar | Trying to install busybox but it's prompting me to run apt-get -f install and when I do that I'm getting a particular error that is I feel isn't supposed to be shown. http://dpaste.com/1138910/ When I move that I break my system and have to specify LD_LIBRARY_PATH in order to run any commands that aren't built into bash |
| 05:58.55 | PandaFoar | How do I get past this? |
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| 06:00.31 | ompaul | PandaFoar: what version of debian is this? |
| 06:01.30 | PandaFoar | Debian 6, 32 bit |
| 06:01.59 | jgiorgi | earlier i installed dpkg 1.16 and broke my package manager, i reinstalled debconf and dpkg 1.15 from source and can install .debs from dpkg, apt-get still shows dpkg returning errors E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (100) |
| 06:02.06 | ompaul | PandaFoar: please paste all of your /etc/apt/sources.list in http://paste.debian.net |
| 06:02.25 | ompaul | ,dpkg |
| 06:02.36 | ompaul | ,v dpkg |
| 06:02.37 | judd | Package: dpkg on i386 -- squeeze: 1.15.8.13; jessie: 1.16.10; sid: 1.16.10; wheezy: 1.16.10 |
| 06:03.02 | ompaul | jgiorgi: which version of debian are you running |
| 06:03.45 | jgiorgi | ompaul, squeeze, i think i just corrected it tho, installing from source put the dpkg binary at /usr/local/bin/dpkg and apt-get was looking at /usr/bin/dpkg |
| 06:03.59 | jgiorgi | ompaul, a softlink seems to work |
| 06:04.21 | PandaFoar | ompaul: http://paste.debian.net/3531/ |
| 06:05.06 | uwjesq | Hello. When trying to upgrade I get an error message for winbind package: Input + Output + Trace -> http://nopaste.info/d85e3817dc.html Thank you for reading. |
| 06:05.14 | ompaul | jgiorgi: dpkg is kind of core to debian messing with upgrading it is asking for grief :) |
| 06:05.56 | ompaul | PandaFoar: you are not running version 6 |
| 06:06.08 | jgiorgi | ompaul, i discovered that, i was attempting to get multiarch support (my printer driver is compiled for i386 and i dont have source available), wasn't aware that i could force the architecture and call it good |
| 06:06.12 | ompaul | PandaFoar: you have mixed both unstable and testing |
| 06:06.19 | jgiorgi | always find out the tricks after you break something |
| 06:06.38 | ompaul | jgiorgi: there are other ways but yeah |
| 06:06.54 | ompaul | jgiorgi: _I_ approve of fixing your own mistakes ;-) |
| 06:07.37 | ompaul | PandaFoar: you can't do that - debian unstable is right now a mess :) transitions you could try and use it but it wants to do things (at least 8 hours ago here) like remove libreoffice |
| 06:07.40 | jgiorgi | ompaul, other ways? can you point me in the right direction? and honestly i'm happy i messed with dpkg, it taught me quite a bit about fixing a bad upgrade |
| 06:08.18 | ompaul | jgiorgi: reading docs and the wiki a lot but I doubt you would have found that little gem there |
| 06:08.53 | ompaul | PandaFoar: there is no security for unstable please remove the testing / security line |
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| 06:09.24 | ompaul | PandaFoar: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -d and watch the package changes |
| 06:09.27 | ompaul | PandaFoar: or |
| 06:10.04 | ompaul | PandaFoar: if you want to run testing then do not mix in unstable - just change the top line to testing it will catch up with unstable soon I guess |
| 06:10.25 | ompaul | PandaFoar: and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -d and watch the changes for now |
| 06:11.08 | ompaul | PandaFoar: all is not lost, just very messy, only the very brave run unstable and dist-upgrade right now |
| 06:11.42 | ompaul | PandaFoar: the "-d" is to cause things to download, but not upgrade |
| 06:11.59 | ompaul | when you are happy with the mix you upgrade |
| 06:12.35 | ompaul | !unstable |
| 06:12.37 | dpkg_ | Unstable is the status of a Debian release when packages can be added at any time, that can disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. If you have to ask whether you should use it or how, you shouldn't. http://www.debian.org/releases/unstable/ See also <testing>, <sid>, <sid faq>, <apt-listbugs>, <apt-listchanges>, <bts>. |
| 06:13.41 | truexfan81 | !do a funny dance |
| 06:13.42 | dpkg_ | refuses to do a funny dance |
| 06:14.08 | truexfan81 | disobediant bot smh |
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| 06:15.27 | Mohsen_Hassani | I want to know whether I'm using Debian 6 or 7. How can I notice it? I used "uname -a", "lsb_release -a" but no Debian version. |
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| 06:15.59 | ompaul | Mohsen_Hassani: look in your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 06:16.22 | ompaul | Mohsen_Hassani: and if you are still not sure paste that into http://paste.debian.net |
| 06:16.31 | Mohsen_Hassani | ompaul, sid, is it 7? |
| 06:16.44 | ompaul | no |
| 06:16.47 | ectospasm | Mohsen_Hassani: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 06:17.02 | ompaul | there is no release called sid - there is unstable called SID and right now that's a mess |
| 06:17.10 | Mohsen_Hassani | ectospasm, wheezy/sid |
| 06:17.17 | PandaFoar | ompaul: sorry got distracted with my cat doing something cute... So I should make sure I only have unstable or testing in my sources.list? |
| 06:17.33 | ompaul | PandaFoar: keep reading I wrote you an essay |
| 06:17.38 | ectospasm | Mohsen_Hassani: probably on wheezy, then. |
| 06:18.00 | PandaFoar | ompaul: Give me a sec then, still harassing the cat |
| 06:18.16 | ompaul | Mohsen_Hassani: pastebin your sources - you might not want to dist upgrade until you make your sources all wheezy |
| 06:18.31 | Mohsen_Hassani | ectospasm, On www.debian.org, the download link with version 7, is it wheezy or sid? |
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| 06:18.35 | ompaul | Mohsen_Hassani: at a guess you have not dist-upgraded in a while |
| 06:18.43 | ectospasm | Mohsen_Hassani: wheezy |
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| 06:20.44 | BJfreeman | getting a permission denied on port 8080 on debian 7 for tomcat where would I look to fix this |
| 06:21.11 | BJfreeman | oppps |
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| 06:22.32 | PandaFoar | ompaul: Okay, read it. If I wanted to just use testing then could I then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade safely? Or should I still run it with -d to watch? |
| 06:22.51 | ompaul | PandaFoar: you would remove unstable from your sources |
| 06:23.00 | ompaul | PandaFoar: you would need new sources |
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| 06:24.19 | PandaFoar | ompaul: Not sure what you mean sources, I have never used debian before |
| 06:25.09 | PandaFoar | ompaul: When I ran apt-get update && apt-get -d dist-upgrade I got http://dpaste.com/1139038/ |
| 06:25.41 | ompaul | PandaFoar: read what I said again in full - run testing or unstable |
| 06:25.52 | ompaul | PandaFoar: change your top line to testing or unstable |
| 06:26.26 | ompaul | but both can't live in the same file without being a pain and if you don't know what you are doing you should run stable which may mean in your case a fresh install |
| 06:27.23 | PandaFoar | ompaul: It is testing now |
| 06:27.35 | Mohsen_Hassani | For upgrading my Debian from 6 to 7, Do I need to re-install it or an update and dist-upgrade is adequate? |
| 06:27.56 | PandaFoar | ompaul: But I am getting that same error I showed |
| 06:28.13 | truexfan81 | Mohsen_Hassani: if you dist-upgraded with it set to testing, you skipped wheezy and went to jessie |
| 06:28.34 | ompaul | Mohsen_Hassani: fix your sources to say wheezy only not unstable and you will get to wheezy AS long as you have not dist upgraded since the 5th of the month |
| 06:29.04 | ompaul | truexfan81: currently his release file says wheezy/sid so I am hopeful he's before it |
| 06:29.25 | truexfan81 | yeah hopefully |
| 06:29.31 | ompaul | PandaFoar: did you apt-get update first |
| 06:29.39 | PandaFoar | yes |
| 06:30.12 | ompaul | ,v glibc |
| 06:30.14 | judd | No package named 'glibc' was found in i386. |
| 06:30.23 | PandaFoar | ompaul: pardon? |
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| 06:30.43 | ompaul | ,v glibc-2 |
| 06:30.44 | judd | No package named 'glibc-2' was found in i386. |
| 06:31.09 | PandaFoar | ompaul: I don't follow... |
| 06:31.21 | ompaul | PandaFoar: those are not prefixed with your name |
| 06:31.37 | mumpitzel | !tell Mohsen_Hassani about squeeze->wheezy |
| 06:32.05 | ompaul | mumpitzel: not too helpful given that hes wheezy/sid in debian release file |
| 06:32.41 | PandaFoar | ompaul: My bad |
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| 06:32.48 | ompaul | PandaFoar: you can either sit back and wait for devs to fix it, you can in 6 hours or so apt-get update and try again when some new mirror syncs have taken place maybe that bug will be gone |
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| 06:33.14 | ompaul | PandaFoar: however if you don't know what you are doing I suggest you do this |
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| 06:33.50 | ompaul | PandaFoar: back up your personal data, install wheezy cleanly and sit back with a working machine for a while |
| 06:33.58 | smw | How can I list all packages that have a different version from wheezy stable? |
| 06:34.15 | PandaFoar | ompaul: It works fine right now |
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| 06:34.28 | PandaFoar | ompaul: I just cannot install anything for some reason |
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| 06:35.20 | uwjesq | In the middle of trying to upgrade 6->7 I get an error message for winbind package: Input + Output + Trace -> http://nopaste.info/d85e3817dc.html |
| 06:35.20 | ompaul | PandaFoar: ok argue the toss, because of how the box was set up - it will "self heal in a few days" you can't dist-upgrade until then so every day apt-get update and then try your -f watch the changes |
| 06:35.47 | ompaul | PandaFoar: and now I have to make like the night when the sun turns up and begone |
| 06:35.51 | PandaFoar | ompaul: Alrighty. |
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| 06:36.27 | uwjesq | I have this problem for 3 days now. I am open for all kind of solutions. Rewriting the script to make it return 0 even is a solution for me. |
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| 06:38.46 | Mohsen_Hassani | May you please give me a link to read the difference between wheezy, sid and jessie? Is this "jessie" new to Debian? I mean another new version? |
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| 06:39.14 | ectospasm | Mohsen_Hassani: when it's ready, jessie will be Debian 8.0 |
| 06:39.17 | jsonlee | i use git svn to clone a svn repository, but there is an warning(?) like - http://paste.debian.net/3533/ |
| 06:39.29 | jsonlee | in addition to git svn clone https://... |
| 06:39.40 | jsonlee | any steps also need to be performed? |
| 06:39.41 | Mohsen_Hassani | ectospasm, oh :) |
| 06:39.48 | ectospasm | dpkg_: tell Mohsen_Hassani -about jessie |
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| 06:40.08 | ectospasm | dpkg_: tell Mohsen_Hassani about unstable |
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| 06:40.51 | ectospasm | oops, the bot seems to be dead/missing |
| 06:41.13 | truexfan81 | !ping |
| 06:41.14 | dpkg_ | Yes, truexfan81 you are either online or you are not... http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20000326 |
| 06:41.25 | truexfan81 | ectospasm: just use the ! |
| 06:42.02 | ectospasm | truexfan81: the "dpkg: tell <nick> -about <topic>" doesn't work anymore? |
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| 06:42.15 | truexfan81 | ectospasm: doesn't seem to be working today |
| 06:42.20 | ectospasm | !tell Mohsen_Hassani -about jessie |
| 06:42.31 | ectospasm | !tell Mohsen_Hassani -about unstable |
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| 06:43.04 | Mohsen_Hassani | Thanks ;) |
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| 06:44.37 | jgiorgi | dpkg --print-architecture is blank, mid way through somewhat manual 7.0 upgrade, how can i set the architecture? |
| 06:44.39 | dpkg_ | jgiorgi: I think you lost me on that one |
| 06:45.01 | truexfan81 | funny bot |
| 06:45.08 | jgiorgi | yep |
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| 06:48.04 | truexfan81 | !do a dance |
| 06:48.05 | dpkg_ | reluctantly agrees to do a dance |
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| 06:48.10 | truexfan81 | lol |
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| 06:51.06 | jgiorgi | next time i feel like messing with dpkg i'm just going to light my hair on fire, it'll be less painful |
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| 06:54.35 | ectospasm | jgiorgi: nonsense! you just need to know what you're doing (-; |
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| 06:56.06 | jgiorgi | ectospasm, well i'm getting a crash course, you take the package manager for granted until you have to compile and install everything from source |
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| 06:56.45 | truexfan81 | jgiorgi: most of the stuff i use i compile from source :P |
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| 06:57.38 | jgiorgi | truexfan81, meh i compile what i need to from source, latest python/apache/mongodb/etc but when i need unrar or unzip utilities i'm not gonna bother |
| 06:58.06 | truexfan81 | jgiorgi: for me its mostly stuff like media players, etc |
| 06:58.48 | truexfan81 | funny thing is i compiled hexchat, and then a month later switched to irssi lol |
| 06:59.20 | jgiorgi | truexfan81, bleeding edge i assume, that's fun, i dont work with that stuff much, just when i'm bored and need to play a video in some weird format |
| 06:59.21 | ectospasm | jgiorgi: see http://wiki.debian.org/CheckInstall |
| 07:00.01 | jgiorgi | ectospasm, ty but i just manually upgraded to the new dpkg and it fixed the architecture and i'm proceeding with an automatic upgrade :D |
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| 07:15.00 | uwjesq | When trying to install linux headers I get the following error http://nopaste.info/49b61768c0.html any ideas on how to solve this? |
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| 07:15.50 | ectospasm | uwjesq: does "aptitude -f install" correct the problem? |
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| 07:19.01 | uwjesq | ectospasm: Thank you. This brought up a lot of packages that are missing. Thank you. |
| 07:19.32 | uwjesq | ectospasm: Will take some time before I can tell you if this fixed it. |
| 07:20.07 | ectospasm | uwjesq: yeah, I just recently rediscovered "aptitude -f install"... now it's part of my update/upgrade process |
| 07:20.27 | ectospasm | uwjesq: note that if you use apt-get instead of aptitude, I believe apt-get -f install will work as well. |
| 07:20.39 | Mohsen_Hassani | Ho can I get update/daily news mailed to my Email about Debian? |
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| 07:20.51 | ectospasm | Mohsen_Hassani: see lists.debian.org |
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| 07:38.37 | CableNinja | is it possible to merge disk 1 and 2 of the install cd's into one iso? |
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| 07:41.05 | tuvxy | CableNinja: there are install dvds |
| 07:41.14 | CableNinja | too big |
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| 07:41.22 | CableNinja | I only need the base packages |
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| 07:42.20 | CableNinja | tuvxy: its going on a 2gb stick, no cd drives |
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| 07:45.55 | tuvxy | CableNinja: right. http://wiki.debian.org/LiveCD - http://wiki.debian.org/DebianCustomCD |
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| 08:11.34 | beardy | jdoles: Your favourite text editor. |
| 08:11.41 | tux-is-alive | Gedit |
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| 08:14.55 | tux-is-alive | Just for fun |
| 08:14.57 | mariosal | Hey, since Debian 7 supports UEFI, is it possible to install it natively on a Mac? |
| 08:15.32 | beardy | Yes. Wasn't impossible before either. |
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| 08:17.45 | uwjesq | lol debian installing a rootkit: Holen: 157 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main rtkit amd64 0.10-2 [35,9 kB |
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| 08:21.00 | mariosal | beardy: Will I be able to install it just by following the normal installation method? |
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| 08:24.46 | CableNinja | sigh |
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| 08:25.22 | CableNinja | system is complaining that it cant mount the cd or that its invalid.. the image is on the usb stick... dafuq? |
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| 08:29.48 | uwjesq | CableNinja: Any verbose information from mount supplied? |
| 08:30.13 | CableNinja | uwjesq: I'm trying another method |
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| 08:33.11 | uwjesq | CableNinja: Nice, what are you doing? |
| 08:33.59 | CableNinja | trying to install wheezy on my laptop which has no cd drive, doesnt accept usb cd drives, and is currently bitching up a storm about needing a cd drive when it clearly shouldnt... |
| 08:34.11 | CableNinja | I think this attempt will work... |
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| 08:39.13 | weltall | hi. did anyone have this issue. I've updasted from squeeze to wheezy in an arm system where initrd is not used. all seemed to sorta update ok but when i start the newly done system it stops just after starting the first services and the console is dead. if i check the logs with an sd card reader i see the problem is /dev/console no such file or directory. so i tried commenting out the udev mount from fstab and the system can start that way, |
| 08:39.14 | weltall | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:47.16 | CableNinja | uwjesq: looks like I got it, unetbootin on windows works better than in debian |
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| 08:57.36 | SuperDMP | is anyone aware of a Vagrant box for Wheezy? |
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| 08:57.53 | SuperDMP | I can only find older unstable versions |
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| 09:03.13 | uwjesq | CableNinja: Maybe that is why it always worked for me. |
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| 09:04.42 | h00ked | is there anyone who using some web-based administration for SVN? i tried about 7 diff web-based solutions, but with no luck. What i need - manage users, manage repositories, some type of revision log. Anyone know something? |
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| 09:08.34 | uwjesq | lol |
| 09:09.40 | uwjesq | There are some packages broken preventing configure -a to finish. See http://nopaste.info/9be505e15c.html Any ideas welcome. |
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| 09:11.47 | CableNinja | uwjesq: apt-get -f install? |
| 09:11.57 | uwjesq | CableNinja: Yes. |
| 09:12.03 | CableNinja | oh |
| 09:12.09 | CableNinja | sorry, I missed that on your top line |
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| 09:12.25 | CableNinja | apt-get install linux-headers-3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 09:12.30 | CableNinja | see if that fixes it? |
| 09:13.00 | uwjesq | CableNinja: I do not think so but I try. |
| 09:13.59 | uwjesq | CableNinja: linux-headers-3.2.0-4-amd64 is already the newest version |
| 09:14.22 | CableNinja | uwjesq: ok, install linux-headers-amd64 now |
| 09:15.11 | jelly-home | uwjesq: you're having the old problem with init scripts again. did you put /etc/lsb-base-logging.sh back in place? |
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| 09:15.58 | jelly-home | /etc/init.d/samba: 269: return: Illegal number: Starting <- same buggy sh code |
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| 09:18.32 | uwjesq | jelly-home: Hello. Yes the file got there again. I moved it and everything went through. |
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| 09:19.49 | jelly-home | got there... on its own? o.o |
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| 09:21.06 | uwjesq | jelly-home: Not sure how. Sorry. |
| 09:21.25 | jelly-home | oh well |
| 09:21.58 | jelly-home | might as well delete it |
| 09:22.19 | uwjesq | jelly-home: Is this legacy from an old package? |
| 09:22.56 | jelly-home | seems to be leftover from "splashy" |
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| 09:26.21 | darsie | Where can I define programs to be executed when certain keys are pressed on the keyboard (gnome3 here). |
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| 09:30.38 | darsie | found it |
| 09:30.46 | uwjesq | Where? |
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| 09:32.00 | darsie | system settings/keyboard/shortcuts/press '+' |
| 09:32.13 | uwjesq | Nice. |
| 09:33.35 | darsie | I put a script on the audio play key, that would turn on/off my favorite internet radio. |
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| 09:36.27 | darsie | Now I'm gonna try this: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=54242 |
| 09:36.37 | darsie | Remote installation of Debian w/ multiple network interfaces |
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| 09:38.13 | h00ked | + |
| 09:38.40 | darsie | h00ked: I meant *click* '+'. |
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| 09:42.32 | Dunams | just saw on my MRTG graph that someone attacked my server using a 600k PPS attack several hours ago, what should I do to log the attacking IPs in the future so I could block them? |
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| 09:49.25 | uwjesq | So I have managed to dist-upgrade this machine. But I am not sure if it will boot to a console with internet access once I reboot. Any way to make sure? |
| 09:50.58 | uwjesq | Also grub2 setup worked. But I am still not sure if everything is properly installed. |
| 09:51.11 | darsie | my network still worked after dist-upgrade to wheezy. |
| 09:51.13 | mumpitzel | what did grup-update show? |
| 09:51.22 | mumpitzel | *grub-update |
| 09:51.33 | uwjesq | mumpitzel: grub2-update gave me no errors. |
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| 09:52.24 | darsie | why is dpkg_ not dpkg? |
| 09:52.38 | uwjesq | mumpitzel: See http://nopaste.info/3ea10c4539.html |
| 09:52.45 | darsie | our irc bot. |
| 09:54.18 | jdoles | Can you suggest me some program/library which can parse valid domains like foo.com and reject com.au? I only need a yes/no answer from the program. |
| 09:54.56 | cm13g09 | jdoles: how do you define a valid domain? |
| 09:55.11 | uwjesq | com.au is a valid domain. |
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| 09:56.16 | jdoles | cm13g09: it is not supposed to be a TLD. |
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| 09:56.53 | jdoles | cm13g09: just like I would like to reject co.uk. |
| 09:57.24 | cm13g09 | I'm not aware of any library that does this jdoles |
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| 09:57.29 | uwjesq | jdoles: I suggest you to learn a programming language for such a specific task. |
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| 09:57.55 | jdoles | uwjesq: I am sure there exist libraries which do this already. |
| 09:58.23 | jdoles | uwjesq: I am also not sure why you would suggest that I should learn a programming language, since I can already program. |
| 09:58.32 | Trewas | most programs would likely use DNS to see if the domain exists |
| 09:58.59 | jdoles | Trewas: that was not a part of the question I asked. |
| 09:59.10 | jdoles | This is going nowhere. |
| 09:59.22 | jdoles | !ontopic |
| 09:59.22 | dpkg_ | Please stay on topic. #debian's mission is to help users of Debian solve problems and understand their Debian systems. If what you are discussing has no relationship to Debian, please move your discussion (and invite participants) to a channel where it is on topic, such as #politics, #general, #ubuntu, or #yourownchannel. Failure to moderate yourself will result in operators moderating for you. |
| 10:00.02 | Trewas | jdoles: well, why would com.$TLD not be valid? just sounds like a weird example |
| 10:00.12 | cm13g09 | jdoles: do you have an example use case, or indeed, an example of program that already does this? |
| 10:00.40 | cm13g09 | I don't quite understand why you are trying to achieve what you are trying to achieve.... |
| 10:00.42 | jdoles | Trewas: you can't read requirements. |
| 10:00.56 | jdoles | cm13g09: and that's an irrelevant question. |
| 10:01.14 | uwjesq | mumpitzel: I mean it does LOOK good. But will it boot. :-D |
| 10:01.32 | jelly-home | jdoles: please play nice with the other kids. |
| 10:02.01 | d_arcy | hi |
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| 10:02.28 | uwjesq | d_arcy: Welcome. |
| 10:02.33 | d_arcy | is it okay to have different repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list, like "squeeze" and "unstable" at the same time ? |
| 10:02.52 | cm13g09 | d_arcy: I can't think that's recommended |
| 10:03.07 | cm13g09 | unless you've got some apt pinning going on |
| 10:03.28 | jelly-home | d_arcy: it's not. |
| 10:03.34 | d_arcy | ok. So what's the best way to install one package not in squeeze (python2.7 in my case) ? |
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| 10:03.47 | jgiorgi | how can inform the package manager of a manual install? |
| 10:04.20 | jelly-home | d_arcy: for that particular package, the best approach, from the PoV of keeping the packaging system sane, is to upgrade to wheezy, Debian 7. |
| 10:05.03 | d_arcy | jelly-home: ha yes, the new release |
| 10:05.05 | d_arcy | thanks ! |
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| 10:05.49 | jelly-home | (of course that might introduce other problems, etc etc) |
| 10:06.25 | d_arcy | by the way, I have to use the latest version of alsa (not in the packages) |
| 10:06.34 | d_arcy | so that means I have to reinstall it after each upgrade ? |
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| 10:07.05 | DarkKnightCZ | hi, any eta on mesa 9.x on sid/experimental? or is it better to compile it from source? |
| 10:07.10 | jelly-home | d_arcy: assuming you mean the kernel part of alsa, that's a definite possibility |
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| 10:07.34 | d_arcy | jelly-home: okay. Is there a way to avoid that ? |
| 10:07.37 | jelly-home | d_arcy: on the other hand, maybe the newer release is good enough to drive your hardware well |
| 10:07.46 | jelly-home | new* enough |
| 10:08.15 | os__ | hi , please how do i update apt's information about repositories from windows ? |
| 10:08.16 | stojic_ | jgiorgi: If you want to mark a package as manually installed, you can use apt-mark. |
| 10:08.38 | jelly-home | os__: no way to |
| 10:08.42 | uwjesq | jelly-home: Do you maybe have any idea how I can make sure that my system is still bootable into a usefull environment? |
| 10:09.03 | jelly-home | uwjesq: considering...? |
| 10:09.29 | uwjesq | jelly-home: dist-upgrade including kernel and grub update. |
| 10:09.29 | os__ | i mean i want to download this information manually |
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| 10:09.44 | jelly-home | uwjesq: did grub install successfully by now? |
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| 10:10.19 | jgiorgi | stojic_, ok, i ran "apt-mark unmarkauto debconf" but apt-get upgrade is still attempting to install debconf (which is broken) |
| 10:10.35 | jelly-home | os__: you'll have to boot some sort of linux with networking support |
| 10:10.42 | jelly-home | not necessarily debian |
| 10:10.47 | uwjesq | jelly-home: Yes. Grub2 did install without an error. |
| 10:11.30 | jelly-home | uwjesq: does /boot/grub/grub.cfg seem sane? |
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| 10:12.14 | os__ | jelly-home: thanks :) |
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| 10:12.50 | uwjesq | jelly-home: Looks alright. |
| 10:12.59 | jelly-home | os__: you can mount debian from there, chroot into it and proceed to do an aptitude update or apt-get update |
| 10:13.21 | jelly-home | uwjesq: I guess that's it. Keep a decent rescue/livecd handy |
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| 10:13.44 | jelly-home | I like grml.org, but that's just personal preference |
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| 10:15.32 | uwjesq | jelly-home: Thank you very much. I will be reeboting. |
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| 10:16.34 | darsie | hi d_arcy ;) |
| 10:16.47 | et | lol |
| 10:16.52 | et | sorry, wrong channel |
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| 10:24.01 | DarkKnightCZ | so anything about mesa 9.x? |
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| 10:24.27 | d_arcy | darsie: hi yourself ! |
| 10:26.32 | stojic_ | jgiorgi: Can you explain what is the problem exactly? I don't think apt-mark will solve your upgrading problems. |
| 10:27.23 | jgiorgi | stojic_, my package manager is broken in regards to debconf and dpkg packages, i've manually installed replacements that work and simply need apt-get/aptitude to ignore those packages |
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| 10:28.49 | d_arcy | okay, wheezy's alsa is good enough for me :p |
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| 10:29.43 | d_arcy | the colors during boot are also a nice touch |
| 10:30.13 | stojic_ | jgiorgi: I see, you could use apt pinning to pin those packages so that apt doesn't try to upgrade them. You can take a look at 'man 5 apt_preferences' to see if it looks helpful. |
| 10:30.58 | jgiorgi | stojic_, thanks |
| 10:31.55 | format_c | I have a strange thing since I upgraded to wheezy yesterday. I run XCFE and all applications adopt the theme. the only application that does not is gcalctool |
| 10:32.02 | format_c | I already tried reinstalling it |
| 10:32.06 | format_c | w/o success |
| 10:33.13 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: you'll really want to fix those dpkg and debconf issues, those are pretty important packages. |
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| 10:33.36 | jelly-home | pinning won't help if apt thinks they're not correctly installed |
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| 10:34.01 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, i'm in the process but it's a catch-22, first i have to convince apt to leave the packages alone and upgrade everything else |
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| 10:34.42 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, if pinning won't work what will? i just need apt to believe that debconf is installed (which it is) and not upgrade it (it's already at the current version) |
| 10:34.58 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: did you get rid of the self-built dpkg? |
| 10:35.08 | stojic_ | format_c: gcalctool uses gtk3, and XFCE uses gtk2, so you'll need a theme that supports both gtk2 and gtk3 toolkits (I use clearlooks-phenix-theme package for this). |
| 10:35.44 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, i deleted the binaries and installed a copy from source |
| 10:35.51 | jelly-home | from... source? |
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| 10:36.21 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: what does "which dpkg" say? |
| 10:36.22 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, with a broken debconf and dpkg i had few options but installing from source, now i have a functioning debconf and dpkg and a broken apt |
| 10:36.34 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: you're doing it all wrong. |
| 10:36.58 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, /usr/local/bin/dpkg, i'm happy to try this another way |
| 10:37.24 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: move that thing out of the PATH. |
| 10:37.40 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: which debian release are you supposed to be running? |
| 10:37.56 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, running 6.0, upgrading to 7.0 |
| 10:38.12 | jgiorgi | (i broke things mid-upgrade) |
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| 10:39.10 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, why am i removing my dpkg from PATH? |
| 10:39.11 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: alright, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list, output of "/usr/bin/dpkg -l dpkg libc6 debconf base-files apt", and "apt-cache policy dpkg libc6 debconf" |
| 10:39.36 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: you shouldn't bloody well have a custom dpkg in PATH, that's why |
| 10:40.18 | jelly-home | that's a bad idea |
| 10:41.10 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, fair enough but no other dpkg exists at the moment, i can remove it from path but then i dont have any dpkg at all http://codepad.org/BAiU9XD3 |
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| 10:41.30 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: alright. Do you have a /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_*.deb ? |
| 10:41.33 | jelly-home | or two? |
| 10:42.25 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: you also seem to have massacred the dpkg status database pretty throughly |
| 10:43.29 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: will have to restore it from a backup, pastebin the output of ls -ld /var/lib/dpkg/status* /var/backups/*status* |
| 10:43.50 | jelly-home | thoroughly* |
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| 10:44.29 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, i have dpkg_1.16.10_amd64.deb http://codepad.org/TO4ZywHf |
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| 10:45.22 | jelly-home | that's not so bad. |
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| 10:45.43 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: is the output in http://codepad.org/BAiU9XD3 REALLY from /usr/bin/dpkg? |
| 10:45.49 | SuperDMP | is anyone aware of an up-to-date Vagrant box for Wheezy |
| 10:45.53 | format_c | stojic_, does installation of this package override my xcfe look? |
| 10:46.00 | format_c | or only that for gcalctool? |
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| 10:46.59 | stojic_ | format_c: That package provides a Clearlooks-Phenix theme that will change the look of both xfce and gcalctool if you set XFCE to use it. |
| 10:47.07 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, are you asking if it's really a softlink or something? no that's the output from a binary at /usr/bin/dpkg |
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| 10:47.26 | Alamo777__ | how to configure nginx? i want to access the phpmyadmin like this: http://myserver/phpmyadmin how to configure that? |
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| 10:48.02 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: I'm going to trust apt output over dpkg, which seems crap. It says the database thinks you have dpkg from squeeze installed, so let's unpack a squeeze dpkg over your current /usr/bin/dpkg, which is telling nonsense. |
| 10:48.31 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: do you perhaps have /usr/bin/debsums ? |
| 10:48.52 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, i do not |
| 10:49.22 | Alamo777__ | anybody? |
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| 10:50.13 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, i was able to install a .deb of dpkg 1.15.8.13, dpkg --version shows the squeeze dpkg now |
| 10:50.59 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: oh well. In a temporary directory somewhere, wget http://debian.iskon.hr/debian/pool/main/d/dpkg/dpkg_1.15.8.13_amd64.deb; ar x dpkg_1.15.8.13_amd64.deb |
| 10:51.42 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: then cd /, and tar xvf /path/to/previous/dir/data.tar.gz |
| 10:52.57 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: just how did you install it? |
| 10:53.00 | stojic_ | format_c: You could set the theme only for gtk3 programs by copying directory /usr/share/themes/Clearlooks-Phenix/gtk-3.0/ to your ~/.config directory. But best solution would be to find a theme that works for both gtk2 and gtk3 applications. |
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| 10:53.25 | format_c | stojic_, thanks |
| 10:53.29 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, dpkg -i'ed the .deb didn't think i'd work but it did |
| 10:53.39 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: using which dpkg?? |
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| 10:53.52 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, /usr/bin/dpkg |
| 10:54.16 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: pastebin the output of /usr/bin/dpkg -l dpkg libc6 debconf base-files apt again |
| 10:55.29 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, http://codepad.org/OZjvYsJ9 still showing 1.16 but dpkg --version and /usr/bin/dpkg --version show 1.15 |
| 10:56.02 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: ls -ld /usr/bin/dpkg /usr/local/bin/dpkg |
| 10:56.38 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, http://codepad.org/ZRExcPUb |
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| 10:57.24 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: please rm /usr/local/bin/dpkg |
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| 10:57.38 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, done |
| 10:57.49 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: ok, that seems the right binary. strace dpkg -l dpkg libc6 |
| 10:58.08 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, command not found? |
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| 10:58.26 | jelly-home | sigh |
| 10:58.49 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: can you upload your /var/lib/dpkg/status somewhere? |
| 11:00.19 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: also, /var/log/dpkg.log |
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| 11:01.56 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, status: http://codepad.org/4WxApfyy log: http://codepad.org/6B5CGbx8 |
| 11:02.07 | hizibiz | can anyone point me to the lightning pluging for 64 bit icedove 10 ? |
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| 11:03.49 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: codepad cut the status file to 64KiB |
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| 11:04.13 | jelly-home | likewise the log |
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| 11:07.33 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, https://bitbucket.org/jgiorgi/temp |
| 11:08.51 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: how do I download that? |
| 11:09.22 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, you can clone the repo with hg or go to https://bitbucket.org/jgiorgi/temp/src in a web browser |
| 11:09.27 | GNU\colossus | has anyone of you upgraded squeeze to wheezy on a host running dovecot yet? and is it as painful as I imagine it to be? ;) |
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| 11:09.54 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, sorry not familiar with any decent file upload services and i'm behind a terrible firewall atm |
| 11:10.40 | Ritzton | I am sorry what is the command on debian to see which app is using a port ? |
| 11:11.28 | abrotman | fuser or lsof |
| 11:11.36 | mumpitzel | or netstat |
| 11:11.47 | jgiorgi | Ritzton, netstat -nlp will show the processes using a port or socket, pipe to grep with the port number you're looking for |
| 11:11.53 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: ok, the status file seems sane. That probably means your installation from source has left over some unusual config files for dpkg making it read the status db from some place else |
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| 11:13.03 | Ritzton | thank you |
| 11:13.36 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, i have a status file at /usr/local/var/lib/dpkg/status, could be that one |
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| 11:14.13 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: it's possible, but the tricky part is finding the config file that makes system dpkg read that one |
| 11:14.30 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: grep -Ri /usr/local/var /etc |
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| 11:15.02 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, i'm not very familiar with dpkg config, where's the main config? i can try to follow the tree down |
| 11:15.31 | GNU\colossus | hmm, my xfce desktop (wheezy) won't manage hotplugged blockdevices (no icons on desktop and in thunar) - thunar-volman is installed. what could I be missing? |
| 11:15.45 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, http://codepad.org/STn6hr4h |
| 11:16.15 | jelly-home | so nothing there |
| 11:16.24 | Ritzton | what is the proper way to remove sendmail ? apt-get remove sendmail* ? |
| 11:16.42 | jelly-home | Ritzton: first you install some other MTA |
| 11:16.50 | xand | is sendmail installed by default? |
| 11:16.55 | jelly-home | it's not |
| 11:17.00 | Ritzton | it was for me |
| 11:17.02 | abrotman | no |
| 11:17.45 | Ritzton | it is listenning 25 port but postfix is supposed to do it for me |
| 11:18.03 | Ritzton | and I have never installed sendmail so I guess it was default in my vps |
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| 11:18.36 | Ritzton | what should I do uninstall sendmail ? |
| 11:18.55 | xand | when you install one MTA (using apt*) it should remove the other one, as they conflict |
| 11:19.07 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: ok, what about dpkg --admindir=/var/lib/dpkg -l dpkg libc6 base-files apt ? |
| 11:19.09 | xand | so it sounds like it's been installed manually if postfix is there too |
| 11:19.33 | Ritzton | xand> it didnt do it because postfix is installed and sendmail is running... |
| 11:19.51 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, /usr/local/bin/dpkg no such file |
| 11:19.56 | abrotman | Ritzton: is there even a sendmail package installed? |
| 11:19.58 | jelly-home | Ritzton: pastebin the output of dpkg -l postfix\* sendmail\* libc6 please |
| 11:20.02 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: hash -r |
| 11:20.12 | xand | Ritzton: dpkg -S `which sendmail` |
| 11:20.30 | xand | mine shows exim4-daemon-heavy for example as the packege providing it |
| 11:20.33 | Ritzton | I am not the only one in this case : https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=4698%3E |
| 11:21.15 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, no output |
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| 11:21.33 | Ritzton | jelly-home> this is what I get : http://pastie.org/7830458 |
| 11:21.38 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, http://codepad.org/6h6YZg0G |
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| 11:21.43 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: that's just to reread PATH. Do the dpkg thing again |
| 11:21.56 | jelly-home | hmm |
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| 11:23.22 | Ritzton | jelly-home> should I do what xand advised ? dpkg -S `which sendmail` |
| 11:23.59 | jelly-home | Ritzton: that won't hurt |
| 11:24.41 | Ritzton | this returning me : postfix: /usr/sbin/sendmail |
| 11:24.44 | jelly-home | Ritzton: you'll want to purge the remaining install sendmail-* packages |
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| 11:25.01 | jelly-home | installed* |
| 11:25.29 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: that is certainly unusual. Let's install strace and see what dpkg is really doing. |
| 11:25.50 | xand | Ritzton: well that means that postfix is providing the sendmail command |
| 11:25.58 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: and by "install" I mean "unpack into the root" for now. |
| 11:26.16 | Ritzton | I dont know to be honnest what I should do, when I did the command that xand told me it has returned "postfix: /usr/sbin/sendmail" but I thought postfix and sendmail where 2 different app ? |
| 11:26.38 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, ok |
| 11:26.41 | xand | yes but postfix, exim, and other MTAs provide a "sendmail" binary for compatability reasons |
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| 11:27.24 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, done |
| 11:27.27 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: wget http://debian.iskon.hr/debian/pool/main/s/strace/strace_4.5.20-2_amd64.deb, /usr/bin/dpkg-deb --extract strace_4.5.20-2_amd64.deb / |
| 11:27.54 | jelly-home | Ritzton: every single mail server brings a /usr/sbin/sendmail command. |
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| 11:28.28 | Ritzton | xand> what should I do ? I dont manage to restart postfix and I have inside the logs : May 11 15:28:05 vpsxx postfix/master[19767]: fatal: bind 0.0.0.0 port 25: Address already in use |
| 11:28.44 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, complete, seemed successful |
| 11:29.00 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: then do strace -f -o/tmp/dpkg.strace /usr/bin/dpkg -l libc6 dpkg apt base-files |
| 11:29.31 | Ritzton | and here what I have doing netstat : tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 674/sendmail: MTA: |
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| 11:29.31 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: see if /tmp/dpkg.strace if full of strace output. Upload it someplace. |
| 11:29.48 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, this was the output http://codepad.org/Npq7vyty |
| 11:29.58 | jelly-home | Ritzton: kill the 674 process, it's leftover |
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| 11:30.34 | jelly-home | Ritzton: and, again, purge the remaining installed sendmail-* packages |
| 11:31.31 | Ritzton | "apt-get remove sendmail-*" ? |
| 11:31.33 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: yeah, the output wouldn't change on its own, more interesting is where dpkg gets it from and why |
| 11:31.42 | jgiorgi | jelly-home https://bitbucket.org/jgiorgi/temp/src/acf96a307549bab929b5118c4c0877aeb6c24c8f/dpkg.strace?at=default |
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| 11:32.22 | jelly-home | Ritzton: no. dpkg --purge sendmail-base sendmail-bin sendmail-cf sendmail-doc |
| 11:32.40 | Ritzton | ah ok |
| 11:33.12 | Ritzton | how can I know it was dpkg ? I thought to remove packet it was apt-get or aptitude |
| 11:33.22 | Ritzton | in which case I have to use dpkg ? |
| 11:33.28 | jelly-home | apt-get can do purge as well, if you read the manual |
| 11:33.44 | jelly-home | I just suggested the command I remembered |
| 11:34.06 | jelly-home | but "remove" isn't the way to do it |
| 11:34.12 | Ritzton | I see |
| 11:34.19 | Ritzton | why remove isnt the way ? |
| 11:34.37 | Ritzton | it will keep the conf files |
| 11:34.57 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: ah. |
| 11:34.59 | jelly-home | 5542 execve("/usr/local/sbin/dpkg-query", ["dpkg-query", "--list", "--", "libc6", "dpkg", "apt", "base-files"], [/* 22 vars */]) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 11:34.59 | jelly-home | 5542 execve("/usr/local/bin/dpkg-query", ["dpkg-query", "--list", "--", "libc6", "dpkg", "apt", "base-files"], [/* 22 vars */]) = 0 |
| 11:35.20 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: please get rid of all that crap. Remove /usr/local/bin from PATH if you have to |
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| 11:37.05 | jelly-home | Ritzton: do you plan to return to sendmail at any time in the future? |
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| 11:37.17 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, i can remove all dpkg-* files from /usr/local/bin, honestly not sure how to remove it from path, echo $path doesnt even show that directory |
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| 11:37.28 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: echo $PATH does |
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| 11:38.39 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, kept it in $PATH for other things, removed all dpkg related files |
| 11:38.43 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: there might be other related commands not beginning with dpkg |
| 11:38.55 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: well, it's your funeral |
| 11:39.34 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, only things left there are definitely not related, just a personal project that doesnt touch dpkg |
| 11:39.37 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: seriously, I can't help you if there are ANY remains of custom built dpkg tools somewhere in PATH. |
| 11:39.45 | jelly-home | take your time cleaning things up |
| 11:40.01 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, alright, i'm looking for anything else |
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| 11:40.08 | boodie | Hi: I'm about to upgrade to wheezy ... I found ona related page that the only line I need in /etc/apt/sources.list is "deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian wheezy main contrib" ... I'm unsure, any suggestion? Thx |
| 11:40.09 | darsie | which kernel/OS will grub boot by default? The first in grub.cfg? |
| 11:40.14 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: if it's a personal project, you don't need it for the time of the upgrade |
| 11:40.20 | vampi-the-frog | hi guys. I'm trying to install mariadb, but I'm getting an error http://paste.debian.net/3572/ |
| 11:40.28 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, good point, removed |
| 11:40.35 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: so be safe and remove /usr/local/bin and sbin from PATH |
| 11:41.15 | Ritzton | jelly>which ftp server do you prefer ? proftpd or pureftp ? |
| 11:41.25 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: now, does "dpkg -l dpkg libc6 apt base-file debconf" have a saner output? |
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| 11:41.44 | jelly-home | Ritzton: neither. |
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| 11:41.58 | Ritzton | jelly-home> which one are you using ? |
| 11:42.05 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, much saner |
| 11:42.06 | jelly-home | Ritzton: I tell users to use sftp, part of ssh server. |
| 11:42.32 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, http://codepad.org/IlyWl4Il |
| 11:43.00 | Ritzton | I see, but do you have a database which is dealing with virtual user ? |
| 11:43.05 | jelly-home | Ritzton: filezilla or winscp can work with that. Don't use ftp unless you absolutely have to. If you absolutely have to, try vsftpd. |
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| 11:43.28 | Ritzton | why is ftp unrecommended ? |
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| 11:43.58 | vampi-the-frog | Ritzton, it's unencrypted |
| 11:44.04 | jelly-home | !ftp must die |
| 11:44.05 | dpkg | FTP MUST DIE! http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie . If you really just want to provide anonymous download of files, use HTTP: http://daniel.haxx.se/docs/ftp-vs-http.html |
| 11:44.07 | vampi-the-frog | use sftp or ftps |
| 11:44.22 | jelly-home | vampi-the-frog: ftps is FTP again. |
| 11:44.37 | boodie | Hi: can anybody indicate the sources for the upgrade to wheezy? |
| 11:44.44 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: PHEW, finally |
| 11:44.47 | Ritzton | vampi> yeah I know it is unencrypted, but if I am the only one on my internet connexion and there is no wifi ? |
| 11:45.00 | vampi-the-frog | i dunnoo |
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| 11:45.38 | Ritzton | anyway I am going to follow what you are saying |
| 11:45.55 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: wget http://debian.iskon.hr/debian/pool/main/d/debconf/debconf_1.5.36.1_all.deb, install that one and the strace deb with dpkg -i |
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| 11:48.09 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, both installed without error |
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| 11:48.24 | Ritzton | jelly-home> when you install proftpd, it automatically set up sftp as well, so it is not good to use it ? |
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| 11:48.53 | jelly-home | Ritzton: that's not the same "sftp", sorry |
| 11:49.11 | Ritzton | why ? |
| 11:49.40 | jelly-home | because they call something else sftp, not the ssh subsystem? |
| 11:50.07 | Ritzton | I dont know I am using WinSCP and when I chose sftp protocol, it is working |
| 11:50.29 | jelly-home | Ritzton: and you don't need ANY kind of ftpd on the remote side for that. |
| 11:50.37 | xand | Ritzton: that is provided by default |
| 11:50.40 | xand | it comes with openssh |
| 11:50.46 | jelly-home | not proftpd, not vsftpd, it just works |
| 11:51.10 | Ritzton | because I just uninstalled proftpd and now I cannot connect using sftp :-/ |
| 11:51.10 | xand | !ftpmustdie |
| 11:51.11 | dpkg | FTP MUST DIE! http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie . If you really just want to provide anonymous download of files, use HTTP: http://daniel.haxx.se/docs/ftp-vs-http.html |
| 11:51.16 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: I guess you're now ready to continue with a normal upgrade... |
| 11:51.37 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: does "apt-get -f install" show anything pending? |
| 11:51.53 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, and it seems to be functional, i greatly appreciate your help here, not sure what my retention rate will be but i learned a lot |
| 11:52.07 | jgiorgi | jelly-home, ran apt-get -f install, fixed a few things and upgrade is running now |
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| 11:52.48 | jdoles | FTP has valid uses when not assuming an infinite supply of money. |
| 11:53.04 | abrotman | no |
| 11:53.05 | xand | what does money have to do with it? |
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| 11:53.23 | jelly-home | jgiorgi: yay. |
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| 11:53.52 | jdoles | xand: please buy me a 6000 euro scanner and I will gladly dispose of my current one which uses FTP. |
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| 11:54.20 | jgiorgi | jdoles, that's a weird use case, why would a scanner use ftp? |
| 11:54.24 | jelly-home | jdoles: that scanner isn't running on a public network tho |
| 11:54.26 | abrotman | had a scanner that could use ftp, email, or smbfs |
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| 11:54.45 | abrotman | jgiorgi: scan directly to storage |
| 11:54.47 | xand | jgiorgi: because it's network-connected |
| 11:55.04 | abrotman | should have said "scanner" |
| 11:55.06 | Ritzton | jelly-home> is it possible to tell me how to setup sftp connexion ? I dont understand... My ssh connexion is working but when I try to connect to sftp using winscp, I have juste uninstalled proftpd |
| 11:55.29 | jgiorgi | meh, local network, ftp has no use cases on the public network |
| 11:55.37 | jelly-home | Ritzton: sftp works on top of ssh, it should just keep working. |
| 11:55.55 | jdoles | jelly-home: if you go over the Internet, then I'd agree that there are no valid uses for FTP. |
| 11:56.09 | johskar_ | problem with ftp is that peope are TOO used to it... hence sftp and webdav doesn't get the attention it needs... |
| 11:56.15 | jelly-home | jdoles: and that's what FTP MUST DIE is all about |
| 11:56.47 | jdoles | jelly-home: FTP MUST DIE ON PUBLIC NETWORKS was not cool enough, eh? |
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| 11:57.11 | jelly-home | not as catchy, no |
| 11:57.22 | johskar | lol |
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| 11:58.16 | Ritzton | jelly-home> yeah sorry sftp is working, I must have made mistake trying it |
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| 11:59.09 | Ritzton | jelly-home> do you use a database to add sftp user and you only use the system ones ? |
| 11:59.37 | jelly-home | Ritzton: system users at present time |
| 12:00.16 | Ritzton | ok I am going to do the same |
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| 12:01.40 | Ritzton | what I dont understand is why in some host plan, they only provide ftp access and not sftp ? |
| 12:02.02 | Ritzton | I mean you have to pay more generaly for sftp access when you order a share plan |
| 12:02.23 | xand | because it's run by idiots |
| 12:02.38 | sooley | lol |
| 12:02.43 | sooley | because sftp is usually shell access |
| 12:02.46 | sooley | most hosts dont want to give that |
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| 12:03.05 | xand | true, but you can disable that |
| 12:04.00 | jelly-home | sooley: trivially easy to amend by setting the login shell to /bin/false |
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| 12:05.27 | Ritzton | xand> maybe run by idiot but if I take one of the most famous hoster in Europe : http://www.ovh.co.uk/web-hosting/ when you look the plans, if you take the cheapest, you only have ftp access... |
| 12:05.47 | abrotman | there are stupid people to buy stupid products |
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| 12:06.36 | xand | jelly-home: how do you make that work? it always just immediately closes the connection when I try that (setting shell to /bin/false and then using sftp) |
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| 12:07.27 | jelly-home | xand: is it present in /etc/shells? |
| 12:07.49 | xand | oh, no. |
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| 12:08.22 | Alamo777__ | what was the name of the program to install on debian, so when i plug a USB device it recognizes automatically? |
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| 12:08.47 | xand | now it is, but makes no difference. |
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| 12:09.20 | abrotman | Alamo777__: you sohuld have that already |
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| 12:09.39 | Alamo777__ | how do you know abortman? |
| 12:09.46 | Alamo777__ | i rememmber i installed it once, but i dont rememmber the name of it |
| 12:09.51 | abrotman | it's part of the base operating system? |
| 12:09.51 | vampi-the-frog | autofs? |
| 12:09.51 | phogg | Alamo777__: define "recognizes" |
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| 12:10.11 | abrotman | Alamo777__: perhaps you mean "automatically mounts it so it is accessible by all users"? |
| 12:10.12 | vampi-the-frog | phogg, he wants to auto mount USB storage devices, like normal people |
| 12:10.28 | phogg | vampi-the-frog: you can't assume that, users often mean crazy things |
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| 12:10.59 | Alamo777__ | phogg, i think it is, just a moment i wil try it:) |
| 12:11.07 | phogg | He might mean "I want a window of my favorite file manager to pop up and show me the files on the disk", or he wants to be prompted where to mount it, or just notified of the device name |
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| 12:11.30 | Alamo777__ | phogg, not exactly i want this to happen in norton commanter, as i am using console |
| 12:11.40 | abrotman | norton commander? |
| 12:11.46 | Alamo777__ | midnight |
| 12:11.53 | phogg | wants a pony |
| 12:11.59 | abrotman | you typed norton, thought it was 1995 all over again :) |
| 12:12.18 | Alamo777__ | abrotman, for me no difference:) the same blue screen:)))) |
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| 12:15.34 | Alamo777__ | now i cant find where it mount the drive |
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| 12:15.51 | jdoles | What's a good way to organize system tests and get nice reports from them? |
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| 12:17.38 | darsie | I'm trying to install debian on a remote server like this: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=54242# , but the ssh console doesn't come up. In step 10 cpio says: 'cpio: dev/console: Cannot mknod: Operation not permitted' (same with /dev/lnull). Is this the problem. Shall I try as root or fakeroot? |
| 12:18.00 | Alamo777__ | ok channel, now i cant find where it mount the drive |
| 12:18.00 | Alamo777__ | , the programm autfs |
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| 12:18.22 | xand | Alamo777__: type mount ? |
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| 12:19.10 | Alamo777__ | xand, i cant see anything |
| 12:19.16 | xand | anything? |
| 12:19.51 | musca | jdoles: do you think of monitoring systems e.g. with icinga? |
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| 12:20.20 | Alamo777__ | xand, it should automatically appear, but it doesnt in /media/cdrom0 |
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| 12:21.37 | slooth | Hello. I'm trying to make my own Live Debian. When the lb build finishes, there's no .img output (even though it's selected already (with lb -b..)). Ideas? Thanks |
| 12:21.45 | Alamo777__ | maybe it is is not supported in debian wheezy yet |
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| 12:22.53 | Ritzton | I am following this http://workaround.org/ispmail/squeeze/ and I am at this point "Testing email delivery" but when I am trying it, it doesnt work, and when I am going in the logs files, I do have "May 11 16:13:10 vpsxx postfix/local[20992]: EFD9327C5C2A: to=<user@domain.com>, relay=local, delay=0.01, delays=0.01/0/0/0, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (unknown user: "user")" but when I am doing |
| 12:22.53 | Ritzton | "postmap -q user@domain.com mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-mailbox-maps.cf" it is working so I dont know why my user is unknown :-/ |
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| 12:25.02 | slooth | Alamo777, was that for me? If so, that doesn't make sense.. everything is ready, no errors, it just doesn't build the image, which shouldn't really be hard |
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| 12:26.09 | halt | Hi, all, i just installed debian, and I have HW incoplatible issue, there is no VGA signal, no wifi etc :S |
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| 12:26.39 | abrotman | halt: so what do you have? |
| 12:26.40 | sooley | halt: missing drivers |
| 12:26.53 | abrotman | halt: ethernet? |
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| 12:27.04 | abrotman | halt: which version of Debian did you install? |
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| 12:27.53 | halt | abrotman: http://aleutia.com/t1-fanless-eco-pc Intel staff debian 7.0 the lates stable |
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| 12:28.57 | jelly-home | Ritzton: first, please don't use "domain.com" as a placeholder. It's a real domain owned by real people, and they won't appreciate spammers finding that email in public logs and spamming them. |
| 12:28.59 | halt | should i paste lspci or something ? |
| 12:29.13 | abrotman | halt: that'd be a good start, yes |
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| 12:29.17 | abrotman | halt: lspci -nn |
| 12:29.23 | ompaul | halt: did you try to install it over wired or wireless? |
| 12:29.24 | jelly-home | Ritzton: if you absolutely have to munge the real data, use example.com or example.org |
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| 12:30.31 | Ritzton | jelly> I havent used this domain, I have used mine, but I have replaced it to paste here |
| 12:30.52 | halt | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/PvitusmS |
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| 12:31.15 | abrotman | !tell halt about iwlwifi |
| 12:31.23 | loaden_ | It's a bug? or expected? When I configure the network for install Wheezy, I got this error: `<title>Unreachable gateway</title> <content>The gateway address you entered is unreachable.<p>You may have made an error entering your IP address, netmask and/or gateway.</content>`. My address: 192.168.*6*.159, and my gateway: 192.168.*5*.253, notice the *x* quote number is not same. any comments? |
| 12:31.26 | jelly-home | Ritzton: yeah. do NOT use "domain.com" as a replacement. |
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| 12:31.41 | abrotman | halt: seems like your video should be supported |
| 12:31.43 | halt | ompaul: i installed from USB ( unetbootin ) and from wired connection and that is working well i can acces it accross ssh |
| 12:31.52 | xand | loaden_: and what is the subnet mask? |
| 12:32.06 | ompaul | halt: unetbootin is known not to play well with debian |
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| 12:32.07 | abrotman | halt: did you install the 'xorg' package? |
| 12:32.17 | abrotman | ompaul: it's installed ... right? |
| 12:32.21 | abrotman | he got lucky |
| 12:32.29 | ompaul | missed that point |
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| 12:32.44 | jelly-home | Ritzton: that address seems to be delivered by "local" delivery agent, which means your virtual_* configuration is not set up to catch that address or that domain. |
| 12:32.48 | darsie | Where would I put 'shutdown -r +5' in a debian installer (initrd?) as watchdog for a remote install if the remote ssh server won't start? |
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| 12:33.14 | halt | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/SMW0yeWw xorg packages |
| 12:33.27 | jelly-home | Ritzton: have you read http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html ? |
| 12:33.40 | abrotman | halt: let's fix one problem at a time .. |
| 12:33.55 | abrotman | halt: your wifi should be easy |
| 12:33.58 | loaden_ | xand: subnet mask? you mean: netmask? it's 255.255.255.0 |
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| 12:34.30 | xand | loaden_: yes, netmask is short for subnet mask. and yes, your combination of IP address, subnet mask and gateway address is invalid. |
| 12:34.40 | xand | the third octet (the 5 or 6) should be the same |
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| 12:36.23 | loaden_ | xand: But when install is completed, and I'm installed network-manager, the third octet can be different. and it's works. |
| 12:36.26 | Guastatore | ciao |
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| 12:36.38 | Guastatore | !list |
| 12:36.38 | dpkg | guastatore: vedi http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 12:36.51 | xand | loaden_: well it shouldn't work with those settings. |
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| 12:37.13 | halt | abrotman: ok wifi is cool, but still no signal on the VGA |
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| 12:37.28 | abrotman | halt: you'll probably have to pastebin your Xorg.0.log |
| 12:37.57 | gry | http://packages.debian.org/sid/ksirc is insanely old, right? is it possible instal it on wheezy? I don't even see where I can download a .deb |
| 12:38.04 | Ritzton | jelly-home> I found out it was because the domain was in both mydestination and virtual_mailbox_domains.... but I dont understand how to send e-mail to my local domain because it is working for others but not with local domain if I tried to send to a real system user... I have read this page : http://workaround.org/ispmail/squeeze/postfix-domain-types |
| 12:38.17 | abrotman | gry: that's also "debports" |
| 12:39.07 | abrotman | gry: i think you have many other optoins by now |
| 12:39.13 | gry | I am using a standard architecture, x96, and am looking for a .deb file of that package (or sources for me to compile) |
| 12:39.19 | jelly-home | Ritzton: so leave it in mydestination and use only system users for that "local" domain |
| 12:39.21 | Ritzton | jelly> I tried : echo test | mail system_user@mydestination and there is nothing in /var/vmail |
| 12:39.26 | abrotman | gry: try kvirc for example |
| 12:39.42 | gry | yes I know, I just want to see what it was :) |
| 12:40.02 | abrotman | gry: it was ksirc .. if oyu want to try to compile it (it probably won't on wheezy), get the upstream source |
| 12:40.17 | jelly-home | Ritzton: do you want it delivered via local(8) to system users, or do you want that domain to be managed by virtual(8)? |
| 12:40.29 | ompaul | or use konversation |
| 12:40.34 | abrotman | or that, yes |
| 12:40.39 | loaden_ | xand: There is any possible to make it works with my settings? It's seems works fine with Ubuntu / Windows. |
| 12:41.01 | xand | loaden_: those settings are just wrong. I don't see how they'd work in any OS. |
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| 12:41.42 | Ritzton | jelly-home> I would like to know where the mail are going for when I sent to system_user@mydestination |
| 12:41.49 | jelly-home | Ritzton: pastebin your "postconf -n", and the part of logs with show the delivery for that mail to system_user@mydestination |
| 12:42.08 | jelly-home | Ritzton: your first place to look is always the mail logs |
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| 12:43.04 | halt | abrotman: here is the Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/gx0zgSFB |
| 12:43.14 | loaden_ | xand: IP=192.168.6.159 netmask=255.255.255.0 gateway=192.168.5.253 dns=192.168.5.253 can be sure works well with Ubuntu/Windows 7, ever with Debian after installed network-manager. |
| 12:43.43 | jelly-home | Ritzton: and please try to avoid hiding useful information |
| 12:43.56 | loaden_ | xand: It's just not work with Debian's networking service. |
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| 12:45.52 | Alamo777__ | where does autofs mount the usb device when connecting? |
| 12:46.02 | Alamo777__ | should i edit configuration file after installation |
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| 12:46.32 | Ritzton | jelly-home>http://pastie.org/7830707 |
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| 12:48.00 | TuxFighter | Hi, does anyone know howto send a software-internal-command to a detached screen session ? screen -S name -X cmd won´t work |
| 12:48.21 | jelly-home | Ritzton: so the mail was delivered to the local account "user". Ignoring Debian's "procmail" usage, you should be able to see it in /var/mail/user |
| 12:48.22 | CableNinja | attach to the session..> |
| 12:48.25 | Ritzton | jelly-home> it is working for virtual_mailbox_domains, I can see the mail doing "find /var/vmail" but for local domains, I cannot find the mail |
| 12:48.30 | CableNinja | s/>/?/ |
| 12:48.46 | abrotman | halt: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=156327 .. seems related ... says it's not actually an intel card, neat |
| 12:48.54 | jelly-home | Ritzton: it's not handled by virtual(8) delivery, it's handled by local(8) |
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| 12:49.34 | jelly-home | Ritzton: read the line 39 carefully, relay= tells you which command is chosen to make the delivery. |
| 12:50.01 | Alamo777__ | i cant find it nor in /mnt nor in /media/cdrom0 like i did it before |
| 12:50.15 | Cultist | quick question, was manually installing a package but it needed a dependency that I hadn't installed, and it suggested running 'apt-get -f install' |
| 12:50.24 | Cultist | but that command appears to want to remove sysvinit |
| 12:50.32 | jelly-home | Ritzton: this is just a normal local delivery for a system user. |
| 12:50.34 | Cultist | is that okay? |
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| 12:51.00 | jelly-home | Cultist: which package did you try to install manually? |
| 12:51.10 | Cultist | ps3mediaserver |
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| 12:51.23 | Cultist | er |
| 12:51.25 | jelly-home | Cultist: where did you get it from? |
| 12:51.36 | Cultist | ia32-libs, after installing ps3mediaserver |
| 12:51.41 | Cultist | but ps3mediaserver errored out because it didn't have ia32-libs |
| 12:51.49 | Ritzton | jelly-home> thank you yeah I got it ! but with this e-mail, will I be able to get it connecting to the pop server with the local domain ? what about roundcube ? |
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| 12:51.54 | Cultist | and trying to install ia32-libs gives the apt-get -f install suggestion |
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| 12:52.02 | abrotman | Cultist: ia32-libs doesn't exist in wheezy |
| 12:52.04 | jelly-home | Ritzton: try it? |
| 12:52.05 | abrotman | !ia32-libs |
| 12:52.05 | dpkg | ia32-* packages provide a subset of libraries from <i386> for <amd64> systems. They are typically needed by 32-bit only software (such as <skype> or <wine>) and have been obsoleted in <wheezy> by the introduction of <multiarch>. Wheezy users should ask me about <upgrade ia32 libs> for upgrade instructions. |
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| 12:52.21 | jdoles | How can one install Skype on Debian 7.0 in an easy way? dpkg -i skype.deb results in an error about all kinds of missing dependencies. |
| 12:52.26 | jelly-home | Ritzton: configuration of pop3 or imap is not related to postfix configuration. |
| 12:52.37 | abrotman | jdoles: depends on the errors |
| 12:52.40 | Cultist | hm |
| 12:52.50 | jelly-home | Cultist: which debian release do you have installed? |
| 12:52.52 | jdoles | Is there something like dpkg --install-all-the-dependencies -i skype.deb? |
| 12:52.59 | Cultist | wheezy |
| 12:53.06 | jdoles | abrotman: the only problem is that dependencies are not installed. |
| 12:53.06 | abrotman | jdoles: apt-get -f install |
| 12:53.24 | jdoles | thanks |
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| 12:53.28 | Cultist | maybe it installed correctly and just threw that error because it can't find the ia32-libs packages |
| 12:53.57 | Ritzton | jelly-home> no it is not but related to dovecot right ? |
| 12:53.59 | jelly-home | that http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO page is too large |
| 12:54.38 | jelly-home | Cultist: maybe it didn't. What does "dpkg --print-architecture" say? |
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| 12:54.57 | jelly-home | Ritzton: if dovecot's what you're using for pop3 and imap, yes |
| 12:55.40 | Cultist | amd64 |
| 12:56.35 | jelly-home | Cultist: good. You'll have to enable multiarch and "i386" arch if you want to install packages that need "ia32-libs" |
| 12:56.41 | Alamo777__ | abrotman, autofs, i cant find where it been mounted |
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| 12:57.05 | abrotman | Alamo777__: cat /proc/mounts ? |
| 12:57.13 | jelly-home | Cultist: do "dpkg --add-architecture i386", "apt-get update", then retry that "apt-get -f install" thing |
| 12:57.16 | abrotman | are you sure it actually did anything ? |
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| 12:57.31 | boodie | hi: I am about to upgrade, but I don't have enough space on my HD, in /var/cache/apt/archives/ ... is there a way to redirect that directory to an external USB disk and, once done, re-place it back? |
| 12:57.49 | abrotman | symlink it? |
| 12:57.54 | Ritzton | jelly-home> I tried to connect to pop server with a system user and it didn't work, is it normal ? |
| 12:57.56 | abrotman | boodie: mount right over it |
| 12:58.13 | jelly-home | Ritzton: depends on your pop3 service configuration |
| 12:58.41 | Alamo777__ | abrotman, what i should see there? |
| 12:58.52 | abrotman | Alamo777__: is your drive listed? |
| 12:58.58 | Ritzton | jelly-home> I only did what was written here http://workaround.org/ispmail/squeeze and I am at the step testing email delivery |
| 12:59.01 | boodie | abrotman: indeed it should be simple, if I knew the right way |
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| 12:59.19 | Alamo777__ | abrotman, no, its not there |
| 12:59.41 | Cultist | it's trying to install all the i386 stuff, but still says it's going to remove sysvinit |
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| 12:59.45 | abrotman | boodie: mount -t auto /dev/<whatever> /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 12:59.52 | abrotman | Alamo777__: check in dmesg |
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| 13:00.11 | Alamo777__ | abrotman, yes it is there |
| 13:00.33 | abrotman | yes what is there? |
| 13:00.44 | abrotman | bleh .. /me steps away |
| 13:01.02 | Alamo777__ | abrotman, my kindston datatraveler |
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| 13:01.26 | Cultist | looks like sysvinit is being replaced by upstart? |
| 13:01.37 | Cultist | according to the Internet anyway |
| 13:02.09 | jelly-home | Cultist: care to pastebin the complete output? |
| 13:02.39 | Cultist | http://pastebin.com/E5U8fRMQ |
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| 13:03.01 | Cultist | upstart appears in the new installation list, and from what I can gather on the internet it's a replacement for sysvinit |
| 13:03.07 | jelly-home | Ritzton: you'll have to learn how your system actually works, I'm afraid |
| 13:03.10 | boodie | abrotman: can I create a subdirectory on that disk , since I have backup data on it (but far enough space ...) |
| 13:03.26 | Alamo777__ | where autofs mount the drive??? I cant find it almost an hour |
| 13:03.30 | Ritzton | jelly-home> when you install dovecot, it is not by default that you can catch mails of system user located in /var/mail/user ? |
| 13:03.50 | jelly-home | Ritzton: by default, yes. But you probably changed some settings. |
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| 13:04.25 | jelly-home | Ritzton: you'll have to learn what the changes to dovecot and postfix actually mean |
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| 13:05.01 | Ritzton | I have learned what was written in the page... |
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| 13:06.08 | jelly-home | Cultist: was the package you tried to install actually created with Debian in mind, or was it created for Ubuntu? |
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| 13:06.46 | jelly-home | Cultist: where did you get it from? |
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| 13:07.28 | thomaschaaf | Hello is there any alternative to campagnol on debian? I can not find the package nor anything that is simular. |
| 13:07.49 | Cultist | according to the application's site, it is for both debian and Ubuntu |
| 13:07.57 | thomaschaaf | http://campagnol.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 13:08.10 | Cultist | removing the repo it gave though, that was my thought as well |
| 13:08.12 | jelly-home | Ritzton: it might be time to read the dovecot docs and try to actually understand the changes |
| 13:08.40 | Ritzton | jelly-home> could you tell me at least what is supposed to be normal or not please ? if I have followed this changes http://workaround.org/ispmail/squeeze/ is it still supposed to work ? |
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| 13:09.10 | Ritzton | jelly-home> because you told me it was default |
| 13:09.45 | mirco | All my packages are pinned with -10, seems pinning doesnt rcognise them correctly: http://paste.debian.net/3587/ |
| 13:10.18 | blackjack | hy |
| 13:10.24 | jelly-home | Ritzton: I believe I told you it was a decent start, but hardly a default. |
| 13:10.29 | blackjack | I followed the tutorial here http://www.unixmen.com/standalone-samba-in-debian-squeeze/ |
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| 13:11.33 | blackjack | but i can't access http://dpaste.com/1140566/ |
| 13:11.38 | blackjack | can help my |
| 13:12.24 | jelly-home | Ritzton: but I guess the setup probably uses dovecot to make an all-virtual configuration, so it ignores local system users. |
| 13:12.55 | jelly-home | Ritzton: in that case it is expected not to be able to read mail for system users via pop3/imap. |
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| 13:14.34 | Ritzton | jelly-home> yeah in fact I did that "You will want to comment out the section called "passdb pam that deals with system users. Otherwise Dovecot will also look for system users when someone fetches emails which leads to warnings in your log file." that is probably why |
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| 13:15.29 | Ritzton | but why it would lead to warning ? |
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| 13:16.23 | jelly-home | because having two user databases is an unusual setup? |
| 13:16.33 | jelly-home | it depends on the exact configuration |
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| 13:21.29 | Ritzton | jelly-home> I tried to uncomment those line, but still not able to connect my pop server with a system user :-/ could you give me some clues please |
| 13:21.46 | jelly-home | er, two authentication/password databases in this case |
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| 13:22.21 | jelly-home | Ritzton: nope, sorry, you're in deep water now |
| 13:22.45 | Ritzton | jelly-home> what does that mean I am in deep water ? |
| 13:23.01 | jelly-home | Ritzton: you'll have to learn to siwn on your own |
| 13:23.12 | Ritzton | jelly-home> what about your configuration ? |
| 13:23.17 | HelenaKitty | How do I disable SSH 1 compatibility? I am using OpenSSH2 |
| 13:23.24 | jelly-home | I don't know enough about dovecot to give meaningful clues, I'd have to look up docs myself. |
| 13:23.44 | Ritzton | are you catching mails for local domains in your server ? |
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| 13:23.47 | jelly-home | and you can do that on your own without me |
| 13:24.04 | Ritzton | yeah but I dont even know if I need it... |
| 13:24.05 | jelly-home | Ritzton: my simple setups involve using system users _only_ |
| 13:24.26 | HelenaKitty | How do I disable SSH 1 compatibility? I am using OpenSSH2 |
| 13:24.41 | jelly-home | Ritzton: your setup uses virtual users only, at this point. |
| 13:24.52 | jelly-home | HelenaKitty: it's disabled by default. |
| 13:25.04 | HelenaKitty | oh |
| 13:25.16 | HelenaKitty | jelly-home, How do you know? |
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| 13:25.30 | jelly-home | HelenaKitty: I have read sshd_config manual. |
| 13:25.30 | Ritzton | jelly-home> I see so I have to make it send to both |
| 13:25.41 | HelenaKitty | okies :3 |
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| 13:27.18 | jelly-home | Ritzton: or just keep using only virtual. |
| 13:27.27 | boodie | Hi: if I mounted a directory onto an external disk which already contains data, would those data get lost? |
| 13:27.48 | jelly-home | boodie: no, just hidden |
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| 13:28.04 | jelly-home | boodie: until umount |
| 13:28.21 | Ritzton | jelly-home> I think that what I am going to do, I dont have any needs for the systems user, I was just wondering |
| 13:28.22 | boodie | ok, then when unmounting, they would reappear? |
| 13:28.41 | jelly-home | boodie: indeed |
| 13:28.57 | HelenaKitty | Linux zoe 3.6.11+ #371 PREEMPT Thu Feb 7 16:31:35 GMT 2013 armv6l GNU/Linux |
| 13:28.58 | HelenaKitty | :2 |
| 13:29.01 | HelenaKitty | :3 |
| 13:29.38 | jelly-home | HelenaKitty: do you have a Debian support question? If not, keep it for #debian-offtopic |
| 13:29.40 | boodie | In other words, i have an external USB disk where I have enough space for the wheezy upgrade packages to be downloaded, but I have the backups there ... |
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| 13:30.08 | Ritzton | jelly>it is possible to the same I am doing with mails with ssh to differenciate user with the domain ? |
| 13:30.17 | mumpitzel | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:30.46 | jelly-home | boodie: just create a directory separate from your backups and move the contents of /v/c/a/archive there |
| 13:31.03 | jelly-home | Ritzton: probably |
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| 13:32.12 | HelenaKitty | dgxfdhxdhzgjxhfghcccccccccyfhcfdxshzrrfbghnngcjbgnhjdfzvgvgbsxhfngvvvbngfdnxfghbggxzdgfffffffxbnhjbnhcfghdbfgfbv |
| 13:32.32 | Ritzton | jelly-home> thank you very much for you patience with me I apreciate, I know I am asking lots of question :-) |
| 13:33.20 | boodie | jelly-home: This looks cool ... so, how do I the create a symlink to that directory? |
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| 13:35.23 | boodie | ... and then, once finished, put everythong back in place? |
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| 13:36.03 | jelly-home | boodie: cd /var/cache/apt && mv archives archives.orig && ln -s /media/disk/not-porn/archives . |
| 13:36.36 | jelly-home | boodie: assuming /media/disk/not-porn/archives is where you made a copy of the /v/c/a/archives directory |
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| 13:40.46 | jelly-home | Ritzton: yeah, you're just starting and you're going to have a zillion more, not to worry |
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| 13:44.29 | boodie | jelly-home: ok done. So, as I finish, I can remove the symlink, rename the archives.orig as archives, and this should do ... |
| 13:44.36 | jelly-home | yeah |
| 13:44.38 | boodie | the trick |
| 13:45.14 | boodie | Well, many thanks! Now head down into the upgrade! (wish me good-luck) |
| 13:45.34 | jelly-home | dpkg: cross fingers |
| 13:45.34 | dpkg | jelly-home: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
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| 13:45.53 | jelly-home | dpkg: botsnack |
| 13:45.53 | dpkg | :), jelly-home |
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| 14:00.52 | michele_ | hello there |
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| 14:01.01 | _DomY-Dom | Hello, I upgrade to Debian 7.0 and apache seems to be annoying me, first of all it gave me an error that said that www-data didn't own /var/lock/apache2 so I chowned that folder to that user and apache started successfully but when I go to my wbesites I get "("Status: 301 Moved Permanently", false, 301)" with the php code popping up on every page |
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| 14:04.28 | subthalamus | anybody a fan of trinity? TDE |
| 14:04.42 | subthalamus | is there a debian based distro that uses it by default? |
| 14:04.51 | _DomY-Dom | Keep getting E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'mysql-client-5.5'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) when running apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 14:05.52 | abrotman | subthalamus: probalby should ask them, no?. |
| 14:06.34 | abrotman | _DomY-Dom: pastebin the entire command and output |
| 14:08.50 | _DomY-Dom | abrotman: sure |
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| 14:09.46 | _DomY-Dom | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/g6TxxF3t |
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| 14:12.53 | _DomY-Dom | abrotman: so, any idea how to fix this? |
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| 14:13.43 | abrotman | _DomY-Dom: you know wheezy was released, right? |
| 14:14.00 | DexterF | how do I change the branch for clonign git? |
| 14:14.05 | DexterF | *cloning |
| 14:14.26 | michele_ | anyone know how to write pam profiles ( /usr/share/pam-configs/) for fallback modules? |
| 14:15.23 | DexterF | going to https://github.com/opdenkamp/xbmc-pvr-addons/tree/frodo the link in the box does not change no matter what branch I select in the dropdown. |
| 14:15.32 | _DomY-Dom | abrotman: yes |
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| 14:15.56 | _DomY-Dom | abrotman: Which is why I am trying to upgrade. |
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| 14:16.14 | abrotman | _DomY-Dom: were you using dotdeb packages? |
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| 14:17.08 | _DomY-Dom | abrotman: not that I remember |
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| 14:18.07 | abrotman | did oyu see th eman page? |
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| 14:19.48 | _DomY-Dom | abrotman: ah, I might have solved the problem, one of the packages that command was trying to upgrade was aptitude itself but it couldn't because I ran the command with aptitude, it now seems to be working with apt-get, let me just make sure though |
| 14:20.00 | abrotman | okay then .. |
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| 14:22.09 | nimbius | hi debian, if i want postfix 2.10 how do i remove the existing version and install the source? |
| 14:22.21 | nimbius | this is a squeeze problem |
| 14:22.24 | nimbius | :) |
| 14:22.45 | jelly-home | nimbius: backport 2.10 from sid. |
| 14:22.51 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell nimbius about ssb |
| 14:22.58 | jelly-home | ,v postfix |
| 14:22.59 | judd | Package: postfix on i386 -- squeeze: 2.7.1-1+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 2.7.1-1+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 2.9.1-2~bpo60+1; squeeze-backports: 2.9.3-2.1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2.9.6-2; jessie: 2.10.0-3; sid: 2.10.0-3 |
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| 14:24.00 | _DomY-Dom | abrotman: No nothing to do with it |
| 14:24.09 | jelly-home | nimbius: slightly related, consider upgrading the system to debian 7 and using 2.9.6 postfix from the distro. |
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| 14:25.29 | michele_ | there are a way to make a profile rule in the "fallback" section instead of primary or additional block in pam? |
| 14:25.36 | jelly-home | judd: checkbackport postfix --fromrelease sid --torelease squeeze |
| 14:25.37 | judd | Backporting package postfix in sid→squeeze/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using squeeze. |
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| 14:26.06 | CaptainQuirk | Hi there ! |
| 14:26.20 | michele_ | hi |
| 14:26.21 | _DomY-Dom | abrotman: Ok, basically when I lsb_release -a I have Debian 7.0 but to check when I did apt-get dist-upgrade it gave me that error you saw and when starting apache or mysql, it works but all my websites are displaying the php code |
| 14:26.26 | jelly-home | michele_: good luck finding an expert in PAM :-| |
| 14:26.29 | CaptainQuirk | In a bash script, How can I test that the command apt-cache search <package> returns something ? |
| 14:26.38 | CaptainQuirk | better, only returns one result |
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| 14:27.08 | michele_ | you can check the exit status using $? |
| 14:27.36 | jelly-home | michele_: apt-cache search returns 0 regardless of the number of results |
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| 14:28.02 | jelly-home | try it: apt-cache search fdsfsaf; echo $? |
| 14:28.16 | nimbius | jelly-home: can i expect a distupgrade to work without breakage? |
| 14:28.28 | jelly-home | nimbius: a release upgrade? No. |
| 14:28.43 | nimbius | hm |
| 14:28.49 | jelly-home | nimbius: reserve a couple hours of downtime. |
| 14:29.00 | jelly-home | nimbius: read the release notes. |
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| 14:29.25 | silv3r_m00n | i am running this command, update-rc.d apache2 defaults and it says insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script `apache2' overrides LSB defaults (2 3 4 5). |
| 14:29.26 | michele_ | CaptainQuirk, maybe is not the best solution but you can count output lines using something like "apt-cache search sdfsf ; wc -l" |
| 14:29.28 | silv3r_m00n | how to fix ? |
| 14:29.36 | CaptainQuirk | jelly-home, indeed, it returns 0, whatever |
| 14:29.48 | _DomY-Dom | abrotman: ? |
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| 14:30.30 | CaptainQuirk | michele_, I have to use a « | » instead of « ; » but it seems to do the trick |
| 14:30.42 | babilen | _DomY-Dom: This issue is discussed in the release notes (cf. http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#immediate-configure) |
| 14:31.09 | babilen | dpkg: tell _DomY-Dom -about squeeze->wheezy failures |
| 14:31.30 | michele_ | CaptainQuirk, sure I typed ";" incorrectly |
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| 14:31.49 | _DomY-Dom | babilien: dpkg --purge php5-suhosin ? |
| 14:32.15 | _DomY-Dom | babilen: Nope, no difference. |
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| 14:34.23 | uwjesq | jelly-home: All booted and shiny. Thanks to you. Iron Man like support. |
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| 14:34.57 | niteye | when i boot wheezy in virtualbox (also wheezy), it goes to fallback mode, is it possible to get the full UI working in virtualbox ? |
| 14:36.13 | DexterF | is there any debian specific docs on how to configure grub2? the wiki pretty much has "how to change colors and themes" and all I want os to change the list order |
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| 14:36.52 | _DomY-Dom | W: Failed to fetch http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/dists/wheezy-backports/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 140.211.166.43 80] |
| 14:37.25 | NineX | dexterf: grub2-mkconfig |
| 14:37.28 | NineX | dexterf: ;P |
| 14:37.29 | babilen | _DomY-Dom: The bot told you about seven different methods -- I doubt that *none* of them result in "no difference" |
| 14:37.36 | NineX | dexterf: automagicly |
| 14:37.37 | NineX | ;P |
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| 14:38.36 | babilen | _DomY-Dom: You might also want to take a look at http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to see how to configure backports for wheezy (cf. http://paste.debian.net/3604/ for a working sources.list) |
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| 14:39.55 | babilen | _DomY-Dom: And rather: … doubt that *all* off them result in "no difference" -- If you want to provide further information feel free to paste it to http://paste.debian.net (please don't use pastebin.com) |
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| 14:40.19 | jelly-home | uwjesq: \o/ |
| 14:43.24 | DexterF | NineX: the fuck? |
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| 14:43.24 | _DomY-Dom | babilen: k |
| 14:43.24 | _DomY-Dom | babilen: will get back to you in a bit |
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| 14:43.24 | michele_ | I found a trick for pam :) |
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| 15:07.19 | antihero | it does not support postgres |
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| 15:07.30 | antihero | oh well, sqlite it is |
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| 15:09.06 | humle85 | sqlite work great to |
| 15:09.15 | antihero | it's not even loading the admin page ugh |
| 15:09.32 | humle85 | you need to set it up |
| 15:09.53 | somiaj_ | jelly-home: oh nice, I knew about that, wasn't sure if it was updated to wheezy yet |
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| 15:10.06 | humle85 | theres well documenteted tutorials how to get it all op antihero |
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| 15:13.34 | antihero | grr it just freezes when I go to admin settings |
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| 15:14.15 | antihero | cba, need a pee, going to pub |
| 15:14.18 | antihero | will try again another time |
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| 15:20.27 | aurumxchange | Anybody here can help me figure out why my box stopped DNS resolutions? |
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| 15:21.54 | owa | ./etc/resolv.conf up to date? |
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| 15:23.39 | aurumxchange | Yes. Box was resolving fine, NOTHING was changed, and now it is not resolving at all. Network is fine (i.e. ping <ip> works fine) |
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| 15:23.53 | aurumxchange | but no domain name resolution. Can't see anything wrong on syslog, etc. |
| 15:23.56 | aurumxchange | I am going nuts here |
| 15:24.10 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: what does your /etc/resolv.conf look like at present? |
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| 15:24.26 | aurumxchange | nameserver 8.8.8.8 |
| 15:24.27 | aurumxchange | nameserver 8.8.4.4 |
| 15:24.32 | aurumxchange | ping 8.8.8.8 < OK |
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| 15:25.11 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: and eg. "getent hosts www.debian.org" does not work?" |
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| 15:26.51 | aurumxchange | No. It just stays there. |
| 15:26.59 | aurumxchange | no error message, no end of execution. |
| 15:27.15 | aurumxchange | well actually now it finished |
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| 15:27.23 | aurumxchange | no error message, just back to prompt |
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| 15:28.19 | mwr | Preseed problem on wheezy: d-i always prompts for a hostname and domain, even if I've set 'seen true' on each variable in the preseed. pxelinux.cfg/default and preseed file pasted at http://pastebin.com/xHZmd2b9 |
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| 15:28.46 | aurumxchange | nslookup www.debian.org |
| 15:28.48 | aurumxchange | ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
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| 15:29.41 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: if you have strace installed, do strace -tt -TT getent hosts www.debian.org |
| 15:29.45 | mwr | aurumxchange: does /etc/nsswitch.conf have a line of "hosts: files dns" ? |
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| 15:30.14 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: pastebin the results (paste.debian.net, or anything but pastebin.com really) |
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| 15:30.44 | aurumxchange | I don't have strace unfortunately, and yes, /etc/nsswitch has files dns for hosts |
| 15:31.10 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: if nsswitch.conf is sane, it means you've lost dns connectivity to google's public resolvers (8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4) |
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| 15:31.14 | aurumxchange | It is important to mention that no config was changed whatsoever, and the box was working fine, and now there are no resolution |
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| 15:31.35 | aurumxchange | I can connect to 8.8.8.8 though… I mean, I can ping it. |
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| 15:31.39 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: which debian release is this? what does dpkg --print-architecture say? |
| 15:31.45 | jelly-home | ping is not dns |
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| 15:32.05 | aurumxchange | dpkg --print-architecture all it prints is i386 |
| 15:32.07 | dpkg | aurumxchange: what are you talking about? |
| 15:32.22 | jelly-home | dpkg: be quiet |
| 15:32.22 | dpkg | Ah, shuddup. |
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| 15:32.56 | xand | aurumxchange: sounds like port 53 is blocked somewhere, at least to 8.8.8.8 |
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| 15:33.11 | aurumxchange | interesting |
| 15:33.38 | aurumxchange | anyway I can test if the port is blocked, or are there any log entries by resolv that might help me pin point the problem? |
| 15:33.43 | xand | it's not uncommon to block external DNS servers on e.g. corporate/university/etc networks |
| 15:33.57 | aurumxchange | obviously I can't try to telnet becuase DNS is UDP right? |
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| 15:34.02 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: install tcpdump and inspect the traffic :-) |
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| 15:34.08 | xand | DNS uses TCP too |
| 15:34.11 | xand | but mainly UDP |
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| 15:34.27 | aurumxchange | telnet 8.8.8.8 53 |
| 15:34.27 | aurumxchange | Trying 8.8.8.8... |
| 15:34.28 | aurumxchange | Connected to 8.8.8.8. |
| 15:34.28 | aurumxchange | Escape character is '^]'. |
| 15:34.28 | aurumxchange | Connection closed by foreign host. |
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| 15:34.30 | xand | if there is a local DNS server, try that instead |
| 15:34.34 | xand | oh. |
| 15:34.38 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: catch-22, installing stuff requires a working resolver |
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| 15:34.54 | xand | aurumxchange: if there is a local DNS server, try that instead |
| 15:35.01 | xand | (one on the local network) |
| 15:35.02 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: which debian release is this? |
| 15:35.13 | aurumxchange | How can I see the release? |
| 15:35.14 | xand | also port 53/tcp might be unblocked but udp is blocked |
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| 15:35.25 | aurumxchange | xand: good point |
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| 15:35.31 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: eg. lsb_release -sc |
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| 15:35.54 | xand | aurumxchange: use the DNS server that DHCP gives out |
| 15:35.57 | aurumxchange | -bash: lsb_release: command not found |
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| 15:36.10 | mwr | aurumxchange: cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 15:36.17 | aurumxchange | this is a vps inside proxmox with a static IP, no DHCP |
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| 15:36.41 | aurumxchange | Debian: 6.0.7 |
| 15:36.59 | xand | aurumxchange: umm, use the hosting provider's dns then |
| 15:37.04 | aurumxchange | I have other VPS running on the same hosts, same version of debian, and no problems |
| 15:37.06 | aurumxchange | really weird |
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| 15:37.35 | xand | I see |
| 15:37.39 | xand | using the same dns server? |
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| 15:37.56 | aurumxchange | Yeah, just google 8.8.8.8 |
| 15:38.23 | jelly-home | "contact your provider" |
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| 15:39.08 | mwr | Preseed problem on wheezy: d-i always prompts for a hostname and domain, even if I've set 'seen true' on each variable in the preseed. pxelinux.cfg/default and preseed file pasted at http://paste.debian.net/3609/ -- any ideas on where to start, aside from hardcoding values in the APPEND line? |
| 15:39.13 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: can you install strace of the othe vps, then transfer the deb package over? |
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| 15:39.54 | jelly-home | mwr: try asking in #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net, that's the channel for d-i |
| 15:39.58 | aurumxchange | yeah do you have a link? |
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| 15:40.33 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: just apt-get install it, thne fish the package out from /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 15:40.36 | paddyez | how come on stable 2.6.18.8-jb2 I get this? " libc6 : Depends: libc-bin (= 2.11.3-4) but 2.13-38 is installed" |
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| 15:40.57 | paddyez | when I a dist.upgrade? |
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| 15:41.07 | jelly-home | paddyez: step VERY carefully. |
| 15:41.22 | jelly-home | paddyez: which kernel do you have running on this system? |
| 15:41.23 | aurumxchange | jelly-home: apt-get does not work because there is no domain resolution ;) |
| 15:41.33 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: on your other vps? |
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| 15:41.50 | aurumxchange | Oh yeah I can do that |
| 15:41.52 | aurumxchange | sorry |
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| 15:42.18 | paddyez | jelly-home: uname -a? |
| 15:42.36 | aurumxchange | should I install bind9 or something? |
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| 15:42.59 | mwr | jelly-home: thanks |
| 15:43.00 | paddyez | Linux (none) 2.6.18.8-jb2 #8 SMP Fri Apr 1 08:29:54 CEST 2011 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 15:43.35 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: or wget ftp://161.53.160.11/debian/pool/main/s/strace/strace_4.5.20-2.3_i386.deb |
| 15:44.09 | jelly-home | paddyez: I'm not sure that kernel can support wheezy libc6 AT ALL. You might end up with a completely unusable system if you continue. |
| 15:44.21 | jelly-home | paddyez: does your provider support running Debian 7? |
| 15:44.26 | aurumxchange | Thanks Jelly! |
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| 15:44.54 | aurumxchange | Ok strace installed |
| 15:44.57 | aurumxchange | what should I run? |
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| 15:45.45 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: I accidentally you the wrong strace deb, but if it installed... |
| 15:45.56 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: strace -tt -TT getent hosts www.debian.org |
| 15:46.18 | paddyez | jelly-home: it is a root server so I can basically do what I like |
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| 15:46.35 | jelly-home | paddyez: can you upgrade the kernel first? |
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| 15:46.48 | aurumxchange | ok it is running the trace now. I'll pastebin when it is done |
| 15:47.08 | paddyez | jelly-home: how? |
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| 15:47.56 | jelly-home | paddyez: get back to squeeze sources.list. Run apt-get update. Install linux-image-686, reboot into it. |
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| 15:48.41 | aurumxchange | http://pastebin.com/hQejsvSc |
| 15:48.50 | aurumxchange | Jelly, there is something REALLY weird on that paste |
| 15:49.05 | jelly-home | I see that "anything but pastebin.com" request did not take, eh |
| 15:49.09 | aurumxchange | it mentions lupus.aurumxchange.com, which is a different server! This one is apus.aurumxchange.com |
| 15:49.14 | twantakur | hello .... what's NUMA architechture? ..... i have intel desktop board and dual core processor ...can i utilisize NUMA? |
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| 15:50.22 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: "nameserver 188.165.140.240" sounds different from what you said you had. |
| 15:50.33 | jelly-home | in resolv.conf |
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| 15:50.47 | aurumxchange | yeah I just changed it for a minute to try a local server |
| 15:51.02 | uwjesq | twantakur: Here is everything about numa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60og9gwKh1o |
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| 15:51.38 | aurumxchange | hold on, let me put google server (8.8.8.8) back on and retrace |
| 15:52.24 | jelly-home | it tried all three anyway |
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| 15:55.55 | aurumxchange | Ok here is the trace to google server 8.8.8.8 |
| 15:55.57 | aurumxchange | http://pastebin.com/yzV8HtYR |
| 15:56.06 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: is 188.165.140.240 supposed to be a recursive server, the kind you put in resolv.conf, or an authoritative server? |
| 15:56.48 | paddyez | jelly-home: it asks me "To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'" |
| 15:56.57 | jelly-home | paddyez: pastebin the whole output. |
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| 15:57.16 | jelly-home | paddyez: and do NOT type that in :-) |
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| 15:57.45 | aurumxchange | it is authoritative. The interesting thing is that if I do a nslookup to 188.165.140.240 I can connect to the server, and it returns ** server can't find google.com: REFUSED |
| 15:57.46 | _DomY-Do1 | Hello, trying to set up owncloud on Debian, after creating an admiin user and associating a MySQL database to it: http://cl.ly/image/2Y092G2P3C2l |
| 15:57.55 | aurumxchange | however, if I try to 8.8.8.8 I instead get: |
| 15:58.20 | aurumxchange | cannot connect to server |
| 15:58.36 | aurumxchange | ; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
| 15:58.42 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: you're having network/firewall issues |
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| 15:58.55 | paddyez | jelly-home: http://pastie.org/7831259 |
| 15:59.03 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: if ovh.net has their own recursors, try using them |
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| 15:59.23 | aurumxchange | yeah I am trying these servers now: |
| 15:59.31 | aurumxchange | http://help.ovh.co.uk/DNSServers |
| 15:59.39 | paddyez | I have tried to go back to squeeze |
| 16:00.01 | jelly-home | paddyez: that's not good. You'll have to get that newer kernel without using apt. |
| 16:00.25 | aurumxchange | I get a "no servers could be reached". My best guess is that for some obsure reason that I do not understand, this particular VPS instance cannot connect to 53 UDP outside of the server. Because 188.165.140.240 IS on the same server. |
| 16:00.29 | aurumxchange | very weird. |
| 16:00.34 | jelly-home | paddyez: how much downtime can you afford on this machine? |
| 16:00.50 | paddyez | as long as it takes |
| 16:00.54 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: VPSes are weird. Can you "reboot" it? |
| 16:01.04 | paddyez | less is better |
| 16:01.09 | aurumxchange | Oh yeah I rebooted the VPS, the host … no dice |
| 16:01.09 | Corey | aurumxchange: Check for strange iptables config. |
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| 16:01.19 | Corey | aurumxchange: And dig @otherdnsservers host fails? |
| 16:01.27 | _DomY-Do1 | Hello, trying to set up owncloud on Debian, after creating an admiin user and associating a MySQL database to it: http://cl.ly/image/2Y092G2P3C2l |
| 16:01.36 | aurumxchange | ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp spt:domain dpts:1024:65535 |
| 16:01.46 | paddyez | do I have to compile the kernel? |
| 16:01.55 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: mind you, it connects and gets a response from 188.165.140.240 alright. It's just 188.165.140.240 isn't configured as recursor apparently |
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| 16:02.10 | paddyez | have not done so for ages |
| 16:02.18 | Corey | aurumxchange: Uh, there's your issue. :-) |
| 16:02.21 | aurumxchange | Right… how do I configure BIND9 to recurse to my apus server? |
| 16:02.37 | jelly-home | paddyez: probably not. What do you have in your /boot at present? Pastebin ls -la /boot |
| 16:02.39 | aurumxchange | Corey: but isn't that an ACCEPT? |
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| 16:03.10 | _DomY-Dom | Hello, I just installed owncloud on my Debian 7.0 server and I added to the virtualhosts of one my domains, went to owncloud.domain.com created a user and configured it with a MySQL database I had created and then when pressing connect I get "Cloud could not be found", typing "owncloud.domain.com/config" I get "Access forbidden" and just "owncloud.domain.com" takes me to a normal page just without any theming whatsoever. Here |
| 16:03.14 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: pastebin the whole "iptables -S" or "iptables-save" |
| 16:03.30 | jelly-home | that one line is inconclusive |
| 16:04.27 | aurumxchange | I disabled IP Tables as explained here; http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/turn-on-turn-off-firewall-in-linux/ |
| 16:04.29 | aurumxchange | still no dice |
| 16:04.39 | paddyez | jelly-home: ist is empty |
| 16:04.52 | aurumxchange | I'll enable though and paste the result |
| 16:04.56 | jelly-home | paddyez: how does you machine boot, then? |
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| 16:05.15 | jelly-home | paddyez: is this a VPS? |
| 16:05.28 | paddyez | could be |
| 16:05.42 | paddyez | jiffy box domainfactory |
| 16:05.51 | paddyez | I have no fucking clue |
| 16:05.55 | jelly-home | that's not telling me a thing |
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| 16:06.17 | aurumxchange | Here is the result for the iptables-save |
| 16:06.18 | aurumxchange | http://pastebin.com/aX4eQWfz |
| 16:07.11 | jelly-home | paddyez: I'll assume it's some sort of openvz VPS. You can't change the kernel on your own there, which means you can't use wheezy until the provider upgrades to a compatible kernel. |
| 16:07.13 | paddyez | jelly-home: I ask the support of the host. Thanks for your help |
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| 16:08.12 | jelly-home | paddyez: if you try, you'll end up with every command going FATAL: Kernel too old. |
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| 16:08.34 | debdeb | hi |
| 16:08.45 | debdeb | i want to execute a command _once_ on a boot _before_ my network is set up. i tried it in /etc/rc.local. unfortunately there it is to late as ifconfig allready shows established network. i dont want to execute the command every time /etc/init.d/networking is executed or any ifup/ifdown.. just once on a system-boot... a cronjob with "@reboot" is too late, too. what is my line here? |
| 16:08.46 | aurumxchange | anything weird on iptables? |
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| 16:09.18 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: doesn't look _too_ weird |
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| 16:10.07 | alexlikerock_ | hi guiys |
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| 16:10.24 | paddyez | jelly-home: sorry for bothering you. I thougt it was a bug in debian stable which it is not |
| 16:10.25 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: can you run tcpdump -ni eth0 (or whatever the iface name is) net 8.8.0.0/16 in a shell, then do a getent in another, see what happens? |
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| 16:11.04 | jelly-home | paddyez: your vps is now almost unusable anyway, partly upgraded to a release you can't use |
| 16:11.09 | aurumxchange | Yeah let me install tcpdump |
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| 16:12.39 | paddyez | jelly-home: I know and the host must resolve that problem. I just came here because I thought it was a debain stable problem |
| 16:13.34 | CableNinja | alright, so I just reinstalled from squeeze to wheezy... I had wireless after I installed (and during install), but then I got home, and I got nada. iwlist wlan0 scanning shows nothing. modules ath and ath5k are loaded. whats the deal? |
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| 16:14.30 | jelly-home | paddyez: "stable" change last week. You probably had "stable" mentioned in /etc/apt/sources.list by mistake, which made some of the packages try to get upgraded, with unfortunate results. |
| 16:14.35 | jelly-home | changed* |
| 16:14.49 | CableNinja | second question: my system has been 'skippy' (audio and the rest of the system start skipping/lagging), iirc I fixed it in squeeze by adding a flag to the kernel, but I cant remember what it was, noapic? noacpi... I cant remember .-. |
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| 16:15.08 | jelly-home | CableNinja: it depends on the particular system. |
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| 16:15.47 | Ritzton | jelly-home> I have installed the antivirus and spam for mails but I dont understand when I am doing "sendmail email_adress < /usr/share/doc/spamassassin/examples/sample-spam.txt" I can see anything in the logs ? Is it because if the email is from an authenticated user so we bypass relay checks? How can I test localy ? |
| 16:15.49 | CableNinja | jelly-home: alright, I can futs with that, but the wifi... any ideas? I cant have this 40ft cable running between my roommates room and mine... its a pita |
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| 16:17.16 | jelly-home | Ritzton: use the GTUBE test, for a start. Use the swaks tool to send it over a network connection to your server to port 25. |
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| 16:17.32 | jelly-home | CableNinja: wifi's not my area, sorry |
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| 16:17.40 | CableNinja | :\ |
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| 16:17.49 | aurumxchange | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/abmgzewY |
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| 16:17.55 | CableNinja | what I dont get is why/how it was working fine earlier and is now being a royal pita |
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| 16:18.16 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: so no response at all, it's not local iptables' fault |
| 16:18.32 | jelly-home | CableNinja: that can change from a kernel version to next |
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| 16:18.55 | nascentmind | Hi. Do I need to copy the /etc/schroot/default/fstab to the chroot directory? |
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| 16:19.02 | aurumxchange | h |
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| 16:19.21 | CableNinja | jelly-home: quite literally; I installed wheezy (at work), had wifi at work, suspended my laptop to bring it home, I came home, unsuspend, no wifi... reboot, no wifi. |
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| 16:19.46 | aurumxchange | jelly-home: do you know how can I make 188.165.140.240 a recursor for this server? |
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| 16:20.15 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: I'd recommend running a separate recursor. |
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| 16:20.23 | jelly-home | lemme see... |
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| 16:20.34 | jelly-home | ,v dnscache-run |
| 16:20.41 | judd | Package: dnscache-run on i386 -- sid: 1:1.05-8; experimental: 1:1.05-9~exp1 |
| 16:20.47 | jelly-home | huh |
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| 16:21.32 | jelly-home | ,v pdns-recursor |
| 16:21.33 | judd | Package: pdns-recursor on i386 -- squeeze: 3.2-4; jessie: 3.3-3; sid: 3.3-3; wheezy: 3.3-3 |
| 16:21.49 | jelly-home | surprisingly up to date |
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| 16:22.31 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: that one, for example, install it right on this machine, let it listen and answer on 127.0.0.1, and point resolv.conf to 127.0.0.1 |
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| 16:22.57 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: how much ram does this vps have? |
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| 16:26.33 | aurumxchange | Jelly, so you are saying to install pdns-recursor on the machine I am having the problem and change resolv.conf to 127.0.0.1 |
| 16:26.42 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: yes, precisely |
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| 16:27.21 | jelly-home | well I guess we could verify a couple queries to auth. servers before doing that |
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| 16:29.11 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: eg. nslookup jelly.kladdkaka.org. 50.7.230.26 |
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| 16:30.24 | aurumxchange | Ok for nslookup http://jelly.kladdkaka.org/. 50.7.230.26 |
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| 16:30.33 | aurumxchange | ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
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| 16:30.39 | jelly-home | http??? |
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| 16:30.54 | jelly-home | <aurumxchange> Ok for nslookup http://jelly.kladdkaka.org/. 50.7.230.26 # weird irc client? |
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| 16:31.15 | aurumxchange | nslookup jelly.kladdkaka.org. 50.7.230.26 |
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| 16:31.27 | aurumxchange | same ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
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| 16:31.45 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: what about "nslookup jelly.kladdkaka.org. 69.16.244.25", or 66.90.82.194 or 38.101.213.194 ? |
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| 16:32.13 | _DomY-Dom | Hello, I just installed owncloud on my Debian 7.0 server and I added to the virtualhosts of one my domains, went to owncloud.domain.com created a user and configured it with a MySQL database I had created and then when pressing connect I get "Cloud could not be found", typing "owncloud.domain.com/config" I get "Access forbidden" and just "owncloud.domain.com" takes me to a normal page just without any theming whatsoever. Here |
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| 16:32.55 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: or "nslookup yahoo.com. 202.43.223.170" |
| 16:33.00 | aurumxchange | same with all of them. It seems it cannot connect on port 53 to any name servers, except those running no the same server |
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| 16:33.01 | mjw | Hi, I'm running debian-live-7.0.0-i386-gnome-desktop+nonfree.iso , however, it seems not to have firmware-linux-nonfree_0.36+wheezy.1_all.deb installed. Is this a bug or have I missed something? |
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| 16:33.15 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: contact your provider, then. |
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| 16:33.33 | aurumxchange | nslookup http://yahoo.com/. 202.43.223.170 > ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
| 16:33.54 | jelly-home | your irc client is doing the http:// thing again |
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| 16:35.01 | jelly-home | if you need an immediate workaround, I guess you could configure a recursor on a different vpc |
| 16:35.08 | Ritzton | jelly-home> any idea about Amavis ? How can I test it locally ? |
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| 16:35.18 | ARCADIVS | Why would aptitude tell me no candidate package found when I try to install something that I just found while searching? |
| 16:35.34 | jelly-home | Ritzton: what about my previous suggestion? |
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| 16:35.48 | jelly-home | Ritzton: use the GTUBE test, for a start. Use the swaks tool to send it over a network connection to your server to port 25. |
| 16:35.49 | aurumxchange | Jelly thanks for your help man. Do you use bitcoins? |
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| 16:36.12 | jelly-home | aurumxchange: nope, I might in near future tho. |
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| 16:36.44 | nabcore | Hi, I'm running debian-live-7.0.0-i386-gnome-desktop+nonfree.iso , however, it seems not to have firmware-linux-nonfree_0.36+wheezy.1_all.deb installed. Is this a bug or have I missed something? |
| 16:36.48 | aurumxchange | alright, when you get a BTC address let me know. I want to send you some BTC for your trouble :) |
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| 16:37.36 | jelly-home | np |
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| 16:38.51 | CableNinja | ok, so it seems that the skipping is related to the wifi.... I get a ton of "ath5k phy0: gain calibration timeout (2422MHz)" type messages as the system skips... |
| 16:38.52 | CableNinja | .-. |
| 16:38.53 | patter | updated to wheezy & managed to lose that capability |
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| 16:40.50 | ARCADIVS | I'm just baffled here. I've made extra, extra certain that my package list is up to date. I just want to install libncursesw5-dev, but "No candidate version found" is what I get instead. |
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| 16:41.51 | debdeb | i want to execute a command _once_ on a boot _before_ my network is set up. i tried it in /etc/rc.local. unfortunately there it is to late as ifconfig allready shows established network. i dont want to execute the command every time /etc/init.d/networking is executed or any ifup/ifdown.. just once on a system-boot... a cronjob with "@reboot" is too late, too. what is my line here? |
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| 16:42.01 | takeyourhatoff | I am trying to install wheezy as a guest in a Linux host with virtual box, but the installer keeps on giving me "Installation step failed" around the "select and install software" step |
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| 16:42.12 | alexlikerock_ | dpkg how are you ? |
| 16:42.13 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, alexlikerock_ |
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| 16:42.30 | alexlikerock_ | dpkg why? |
| 16:42.30 | dpkg | Because! |
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| 16:42.59 | alexlikerock_ | dpkg do you like tacos ? |
| 16:43.00 | dpkg | wouldn't dream of doing you like tacos |
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| 16:44.51 | vampi-the-frog | alexlikerock_, I don't think dpkg is very attracted to you |
| 16:45.27 | digdilem | hasn't taken him to dinner yet |
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| 16:46.38 | bodom | Hi there, i have a problem with logrotate after distro upgrade |
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| 16:47.48 | bodom | the noew version refuses to rotate some files because "because parent directory has insecure permissions", i can't find any way to tell it to mind of its own business, any suggestion? |
| 16:48.42 | alexlikerock_ | vampi-the-frog: i like pdkg, they are good with me :-$ |
| 16:48.58 | alexlikerock_ | that's rigth dpkg ? |
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| 16:49.15 | CableNinja | heh |
| 16:49.34 | CableNinja | jelly-home: I found the fix... for both... and its really dumb |
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| 16:49.41 | Ritzton | jelly-home> Ok I got it working :-) but how do you do to transfer the spam in a spam folder ? I mean when I am using roundcube the spam is in the normal inbox |
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| 16:50.31 | CableNinja | jelly-home: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2012/08/msg00055.html |
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| 16:52.00 | CableNinja | >.> wtf network |
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| 16:52.35 | CableNinja | awesome... my typical connection wont stay connected now |
| 16:52.35 | jelly-home | CableNinja: "interesting" |
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| 16:52.40 | CableNinja | heh right |
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| 16:53.27 | Dunams | my iptables logs keep showing blocked requests made from my server IP to a lot of other IPs on port 25, as if the server is trying to send mails, though i'm not sending mails to anyone, is that some sort of DDoS attack? though i'm not getting how would that make my server do those requests |
| 16:53.45 | jelly-home | Ritzton: what I'd do, what set up sieve, and set up some sort of a global rule to place detected spam directly into a Spam subfolder |
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| 16:53.56 | jelly-home | is* set up sieve |
| 16:54.11 | debdeb | Dunams: tcpdump that |
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| 16:54.27 | jelly-home | Ritzton: no idea if the ispmail tutorial discusses sieve |
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| 16:55.23 | jelly-home | it's a language and a filtering engine for mail |
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| 17:25.32 | d_arcy | jelly-home: yes. And i have sound |
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| 17:26.01 | debdeb | i would bet gnome could live without pulseaudio |
| 17:26.11 | debdeb | just fyi |
| 17:26.20 | jelly-home | live, sure, complain loudly about it? Unlikely |
| 17:26.35 | takeyourhatoff | jelly-home: got it, host-f3 |
| 17:26.36 | jelly-home | pulseaudio is nice when it works |
| 17:26.44 | jelly-home | takeyourhatoff: Host? |
| 17:26.55 | d_arcy | debdeb: is it possible to remove it then ? |
| 17:26.57 | debdeb | jelly-home: in my opinion its way too complicated |
| 17:27.01 | takeyourhatoff | jelly-home: right control in my case |
| 17:27.05 | takeyourhatoff | it is a virtualbox thing |
| 17:27.12 | takeyourhatoff | ok, so i have a few lines |
| 17:27.17 | jelly-home | debdeb: of course it's complicated, it has a complicated task to achieve |
| 17:27.29 | takeyourhatoff | the most incrimiating is dpkg complaing no space left on my disk |
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| 17:27.41 | takeyourhatoff | but i am fully allocating the disk, and it is 8GB |
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| 17:27.52 | d_arcy | the error messages are normal, according to this http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=690530 |
| 17:28.01 | jelly-home | takeyourhatoff: is the root fs mounted at /target/ ? |
| 17:28.20 | jelly-home | takeyourhatoff: you should have a shell ready on alt-f2 or nearby to inspect |
| 17:28.34 | takeyourhatoff | df says that /target is ful |
| 17:28.46 | jelly-home | then it's full, and you need a bigger disk! |
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| 17:29.32 | takeyourhatoff | jelly-home: is it not a bug in the installer that when i choose to seperate home and / that it does not allocate enough to / when there is enough space on my disk? |
| 17:30.11 | debdeb | jelly-home: for example... i had a problem to put my sound after a suspend-resume at the same state as before a suspend.. hadnt figured it out... and have now a ugly workaround with this: /usr/sbin/alsactl --file /home/user/.asound.state_unmute restore |
| 17:30.21 | jelly-home | takeyourhatoff: possibly, maybe, but if you sliced them yourself, it doesn't really stop you from doing silly things |
| 17:30.36 | takeyourhatoff | jelly-home: I let the install slice them :-/ |
| 17:30.47 | takeyourhatoff | it gave 5GB to /home |
| 17:30.52 | takeyourhatoff | and 2GB to / |
| 17:30.56 | jelly-home | takeyourhatoff: don't do that, it does silly things :-D |
| 17:31.15 | takeyourhatoff | what is the minimum disk size for a wheezy desktop install? |
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| 17:31.29 | jelly-home | takeyourhatoff: yes, it's worth doing a installation-report / a bug report |
| 17:31.44 | Ritzton | jelly-home> please tell me if I am wrong, so to enable sieve I have to change the sieve_dir instead of the sieve_global_path ? |
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| 17:31.55 | jelly-home | Ritzton: no idea |
| 17:31.59 | takeyourhatoff | will do |
| 17:32.04 | Ritzton | I mean not to enable it but to apply rules |
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| 17:32.34 | jelly-home | Ritzton: yeah, still no idea, I haven't done that yet |
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| 17:45.39 | d_arcy | so I removed pulseaudio, which removed gnome and gnome-core |
| 17:45.47 | d_arcy | how come I still have desktop ?? |
| 17:45.53 | d_arcy | a desktop* |
| 17:46.01 | jelly-home | magic. And friendship. |
| 17:46.03 | darsie | Maybe gnome is a metapackage. |
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| 17:46.31 | jelly-home | d_arcy: try logging off and back on if you dare |
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| 17:46.49 | d_arcy | jelly-home: just reboot the computer |
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| 17:46.55 | d_arcy | still okay |
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| 17:47.11 | jelly-home | fair enough |
| 17:47.12 | vampirefrog | d_arcy, yes, probably a metapackage. |
| 17:47.26 | vampirefrog | d_arcy, one which installs a bunch of things so you don't have to install them one by one |
| 17:47.52 | d_arcy | vampirefrog: so, it should not affect gnome ? |
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| 17:48.22 | vampirefrog | apparently |
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| 17:48.28 | darsie | d_arcy: apt-cache says, both are metapackages. |
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| 17:49.04 | jelly-home | dselect: ping |
| 17:49.04 | dselect | Yes, jelly-home, you are online. |
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| 17:50.04 | d_arcy | darsie: just did "apt-cache showpkg gnome-core", where do you see its a meta-package ? |
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| 17:50.57 | darsie | d_arcy: apt-cache show says in the description. |
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| 17:51.13 | intelikey | anyone understand this error message? "Error: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.PermissionsInvalid: The permission of the setuid helper is not correct" |
| 17:51.13 | darsie | This meta-package depends on a basic set of programs, ... |
| 17:51.33 | intelikey | it's from apt-get update |
| 17:51.34 | jelly-home | intelikey: what'[s the context? |
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| 17:52.57 | intelikey | i can understand that the "suid" error is from the fact that / is mounted nosuid but that is the superuser running the update. so why is it erroring |
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| 17:53.13 | intelikey | ? |
| 17:53.26 | jelly-home | intelikey: the mount option overrides even root |
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| 17:54.06 | intelikey | jelly-home yes but is that trying to run as someone other than "root"/superuser |
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| 17:54.20 | intelikey | ? |
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| 17:55.15 | jelly-home | intelikey: I guess one of these: "grep -li dbus /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/*" is sending a message to some process run by a user with less permissions |
| 17:55.18 | intelikey | can't see why apt-get update would need any other user/perms than superuser did i miss something ? |
| 17:56.05 | d_arcy | darsie: thanks |
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| 17:56.11 | darsie | yw |
| 17:56.25 | intelikey | jelly-home hmmm would make sense but what user would it be ? |
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| 17:59.48 | jelly-home | intelikey: no fucking clue |
| 18:00.13 | jelly-home | a dbus-monitor might or might not help |
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| 18:02.24 | intelikey | ok. thanks for the thoughts. |
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| 18:17.56 | humle85 | Is some one unplugin the internet? |
| 18:18.01 | humle85 | what is a (*.net *.split) |
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| 18:35.20 | debdeb | netsplits nerve |
| 18:35.20 | debdeb | ok again: |
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| 18:35.31 | debdeb | here is a howto (in german) how a system ist transfered to a raid1 with only 2 hdds: http://www.howtoforge.de/anleitung/aufsetzen-von-software-raid1-auf-einem-bereits-installierten-lvm-system-inkl-grub-konfiguration-fedora-8/ |
| 18:35.39 | debdeb | 1.) a raid1 on the new hdd (with one missing hdd) is made... then data is copied/moved to that raid1 on new hdd... then the old hdd is done in the raid1 and synchronized |
| 18:35.47 | debdeb | nice howto... my question is now: can this be done with raid5, too? |
| 18:35.48 | humle85 | hehe |
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| 18:36.29 | debdeb | oh common. irc |
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| 18:37.03 | bluzanzo | hi |
| 18:37.18 | bluzanzo | can anyone suggest how can i install virtualbox headless on a wheezy server |
| 18:37.30 | bluzanzo | without having to install xorg and other graphics package? |
| 18:37.37 | bluzanzo | it seems to me really useless |
| 18:37.44 | humle85 | aptitude search virtualbox |
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| 18:38.02 | bluzanzo | humle85: yes man |
| 18:38.02 | humle85 | then aptitude install virtualbox if it exist there |
| 18:38.11 | bluzanzo | but there is no virtualbox-headless package |
| 18:38.46 | humle85 | i think i saw one a while ago on another source deb |
| 18:38.47 | bluzanzo | having to install xorg on a server fora a package which doesn't strictly need it seems stupid to me |
| 18:38.50 | chipb | because virtualbox is hopelessly tied to its graphical frontend? |
| 18:38.52 | debdeb | as i remember there is no virtualbox-headless-package... it just can be started headless |
| 18:38.57 | bluzanzo | chipb: no man |
| 18:39.03 | bluzanzo | the is vboxmanage for commandline |
| 18:39.09 | bluzanzo | with support for vnc ord rdp |
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| 18:39.15 | bluzanzo | plus interfaces like phpvirtualbox |
| 18:39.16 | chipb | ooo. hadn't seen that. that's cool. |
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| 18:39.39 | humle85 | i agere headless to install xorg if you dont need it |
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| 18:40.05 | debdeb | create dummy-packages then ;-) |
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| 18:41.03 | humle85 | have you tried the -nox11 option ? |
| 18:41.09 | humle85 | bluzano |
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| 18:42.40 | bluzanzo | no humle85 |
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| 18:43.10 | humle85 | just read it of the virtualbox forum |
| 18:43.19 | humle85 | it should work |
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| 18:43.38 | humle85 | you my need to get the .deb with wget |
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| 18:43.53 | bluzanzo | humle85: i'm looking into it, thanks |
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| 18:44.53 | humle85 | bluzano no problem, hope it works out |
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| 18:53.07 | MatthiasShalom1 | debhelper: DDOS |
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| 18:54.16 | jelly-home | MatthiasShalom1: debhelper is not a really smart bot |
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| 18:55.04 | dvs | pokes fun at debhelper |
| 18:55.06 | no-thing | Electricsheep won't show up in Xscreensaver... Should it not be there? *HELP Request* |
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| 18:56.07 | jelly-home | no-thing: are they installed? |
| 18:56.15 | bluzanzo | lol |
| 18:56.26 | bluzanzo | gdebi wants also to install libgnome packages |
| 18:56.37 | bluzanzo | icon-theme and other crappy things on a server |
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| 18:56.58 | no-thing | jelly-home yup ofcourse it's installed :P |
| 18:57.06 | no-thing | is electricsheep named something else in xscreensaver? |
| 18:57.15 | jelly-home | bluzanzo: you would you want a GUI .deb helper on a server anyway? |
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| 18:57.36 | jelly-home | no-thing: no, it ought to be listed... it used to be years ago when I had it installed |
| 18:58.36 | bluzanzo | no man lol |
| 18:58.37 | bluzanzo | my fault |
| 18:58.50 | jelly-home | why* |
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| 18:59.15 | no-thing | hmm, so it should be named electricsheep? Well, I have installed all other screensavers that was not installed - and they seems to work all of them. |
| 18:59.22 | no-thing | but nothing compares to electricsheep |
| 18:59.46 | bluzanzo | dpkg seems to not accept flags |
| 18:59.47 | dpkg | bluzanzo: are you using Windows? |
| 18:59.48 | bluzanzo | like --nox11 |
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| 19:00.08 | bluzanzo | no dpkg |
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| 19:00.32 | no-thing | I my windows I have Endgame, Engine, Epicycle, Eruption, Euler2D, Extrusion - but NO electricsheep :( |
| 19:00.43 | no-thing | window even... |
| 19:00.58 | no-thing | in my xscreensaver window where you pic screensaver :) |
| 19:01.26 | jelly-home | no-thing: the one you get when you run "xscreensaver-command -prefs" ? |
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| 19:02.02 | MatthiasShalom1 | When stability is more important then speed, 32 Bit is better than 64? |
| 19:02.32 | jelly-home | no-thing: I have ... Drift, Electricsheep, Endgame, ... |
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| 19:04.05 | bluzanzo | ok, i'm resigned to install 250mb of useless graphics packages |
| 19:04.30 | humle85 | bluzano --->>http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch02.html#idp11845328 look at the " Using the alternative installer (VirtualBox.run)" |
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| 19:05.19 | no-thing | havent run xscreensaver-command -prefs.... going to try |
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| 19:05.51 | ompaul | MatthiasShalom1: I'd use 64bit like I have in works production for year |
| 19:05.53 | ompaul | MatthiasShalom1: I'd use 64bit like I have in works production for years |
| 19:06.22 | dwon | I want to find out whether I should buy a faster SSD than what I currently have. Does anyone know how to measure how much time my system spends waiting for disk I/O vs. other things (e.g. CPU) while I'm using it? |
| 19:06.47 | no-thing | yup still no Electricsheep in it :/ |
| 19:06.55 | no-thing | xscreensaver-command -prefs no difference with this |
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| 19:07.56 | no-thing | jelly-home, I have Drift, Endgame... :( |
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| 19:08.08 | no-thing | no Electricsheep |
| 19:08.17 | humle85 | bluzanzo --->>http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch02.html#idp11845328 look at the " Using the alternative installer (VirtualBox.run)" |
| 19:09.14 | MatthiasShalom1 | ompaul: thanks a lot |
| 19:09.34 | MatthiasShalom1 | the speed is not much more faster in practice |
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| 19:09.43 | ompaul | MatthiasShalom1: it's about 12% iirc |
| 19:10.12 | MatthiasShalom1 | ompaul: and the double of RAM? |
| 19:10.35 | jelly-home | what double of ram |
| 19:11.24 | MatthiasShalom1 | 64 Bit use the double of RAM or? |
| 19:11.41 | MatthiasShalom1 | And there is no 64Bit Version from debian 7 |
| 19:11.49 | jelly-home | no; typically the code is a bit larger |
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| 19:12.18 | jelly-home | MatthiasShalom1: there are more reported 64bit installations in the last year than 32bit |
| 19:12.21 | debdeb | a bit or A bit? ;-) |
| 19:12.29 | ompaul | MatthiasShalom1: no just moving from 32 to 64bit |
| 19:12.43 | MatthiasShalom1 | ompaul: there is no 32 Bit one |
| 19:12.44 | ompaul | MatthiasShalom1: at some point it costs more to keep X amount of ram alive |
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| 19:12.54 | ompaul | MatthiasShalom1: there was when I did it |
| 19:13.06 | ompaul | MatthiasShalom1: I don't do stable :) |
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| 19:13.17 | ompaul | except in the office |
| 19:13.42 | ompaul | now most boxes arrive with 6gigs minimum what you going to do ... |
| 19:13.57 | MatthiasShalom1 | Stability is the most important point |
| 19:14.04 | jelly-home | ompaul: install i386 with an amd64 kernel? |
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| 19:14.07 | ChibaPet | PAE! PAE! |
| 19:14.16 | jelly-home | no need for pae |
| 19:14.46 | uwjesq | When I run a binary, how can I tell it where to look for additional .so files? |
| 19:14.48 | ChibaPet | Well, if we want to stick with 32-bit stuff. |
| 19:14.48 | jelly-home | ChibaPet: install i386 with an amd64 kernel |
| 19:14.49 | ompaul | MatthiasShalom1: then you don't use flash and you stay away from compizzy stuff |
| 19:14.49 | ompaul | that is how you get stability |
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| 19:15.00 | ompaul | MatthiasShalom1: basically there are no issues running 64bit unless you make them up as you go along |
| 19:15.11 | dwon | uwjesq: ldd /usr/bin/thebinary |
| 19:15.17 | MatthiasShalom1 | ompaul: thanks |
| 19:15.22 | no-thing | jelly-home, are you running 32 version of deb? |
| 19:15.24 | ChibaPet | MatthiasShalom1: I'll second that. This isn't the old days. You're absolutely safe and reasonable choosing 64-bit. |
| 19:15.31 | no-thing | jelly-home, and which version? |
| 19:15.32 | MatthiasShalom1 | i cant find 64 Bit Downloads from debian? (KDE) |
| 19:15.42 | MatthiasShalom1 | ChibaPet: thanks |
| 19:15.51 | jelly-home | no-thing: wheezy on desktop |
| 19:15.54 | ompaul | MatthiasShalom1: take the netinstall of 64bit and get on with it :) |
| 19:16.03 | ompaul | choose other desktops and get there the easy way |
| 19:16.12 | ChibaPet | MatthiasShalom1: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.0.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-7.0.0-amd64-kde-CD-1.iso |
| 19:16.20 | MatthiasShalom1 | ChibaPet: thanks :D |
| 19:16.23 | uwjesq | dwon: thebinary beeing the .so file? |
| 19:16.28 | ompaul | head desks |
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| 19:16.34 | ompaul | why use the full cd ever |
| 19:16.56 | ompaul | unless you have no bandwidth or it costs you per byte and you want to do several machines |
| 19:17.01 | ChibaPet | ompaul: I worry that a new user will become badly frustrated having to install without a desktop environment. |
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| 19:17.25 | ompaul | ChibaPet: the netinstall offers many desktops check it out ;-) |
| 19:17.34 | dwon | uwjesq: oh, sorry, I misread your question. ldd will tell you where the binary looks for .so files. You can set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable while running the binary to do it temporarily (or only for a specific binary). If you want *all* binaries on a system to look somewhere, edit /etc/ld.so.conf and then run ldconfig (all as root) |
| 19:17.41 | ChibaPet | ompaul: Does it let you pick one? I thought you just got the default. I could easily be wrong. |
| 19:17.43 | ompaul | MatthiasShalom1: and clue 1, use a wire attached to a modem :) |
| 19:17.49 | MatthiasShalom1 | ompaul: i think about DVD, because English isnt my preferred Language |
| 19:17.54 | ompaul | ChibaPet: nothing easy |
| 19:17.56 | MatthiasShalom1 | ompaul: please? |
| 19:17.59 | ompaul | ChibaPet: just wrong |
| 19:18.05 | uwjesq | dwon: Awesome. Thank you. |
| 19:18.21 | dwon | uwjesq: np |
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| 19:19.42 | ChibaPet | ompaul: Last bit then, for completeness... Does one pick from the GRUB menu, or go into the install and pick from there? |
| 19:19.51 | MatthiasShalom1 | Can i use xfs? |
| 19:19.54 | ompaul | MatthiasShalom1: if it was me I would use this: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.0.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-7.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso even if you don't speak english its easy to follow |
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| 19:20.06 | ompaul | MatthiasShalom1: why? |
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| 19:20.16 | ompaul | you can but give me a why you should |
| 19:20.27 | ChibaPet | MatthiasShalom1: It's one of the supported options as I remember. But we will quickly know if I'm wrong. :P |
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| 19:20.34 | ompaul | MatthiasShalom1: what tactical advantage will you get? |
| 19:20.41 | ChibaPet | ompaul: Snapshotting for back-ups. |
| 19:20.42 | MatthiasShalom1 | ompaul: CheckSum? :D |
| 19:20.45 | Emery | If Debian isn't using /etc/X11/xorg.conf , what conf is it using ? i'm trying to get it to use the intel drivers instead |
| 19:21.19 | MatthiasShalom1 | ompaul: Stability |
| 19:21.19 | ChibaPet | ompaul: XFS is, I think, the only "supported" fs type that lets you explicitly freeze the filesystem, after which you can take a forceably-quiescent LVM snapshot. |
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| 19:21.52 | MatthiasShalom1 | One tell me, that xfs is the most stable datasystem |
| 19:22.20 | ChibaPet | MatthiasShalom1: I'd put a tiny bit more faith in EXT4 for "most stable", personally. Lots and lots of eyes looking at it and disks using it. |
| 19:22.26 | ompaul | MatthiasShalom1: you want a checksum for that go to the debian site look at downloads and you will find it rather intuitively if you look for the directory I pointed at |
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| 19:22.54 | MatthiasShalom1 | ompaul: thanks a lot |
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| 19:23.12 | ompaul | MatthiasShalom1: unless you are deploying in a data centre in which case you need more than a few words from IRC then I'd stick with ext4 |
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| 19:24.40 | MatthiasShalom1 | ompaul: Its for a personal Computer |
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| 19:25.16 | ompaul | MatthiasShalom1: the cd I pointed at ext4 a wire into a modem and go to it |
| 19:25.43 | ChibaPet | ompaul: Does he select KDE from GRUB as an optional install, or can he get it from inside the installer? |
| 19:27.12 | ompaul | ChibaPet: it's all in there with country and keyboard etc etc |
| 19:27.21 | MatthiasShalom1 | ompaul: perfect :D |
| 19:27.33 | MatthiasShalom1 | Why the network ISO is over 200 MB? |
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| 19:27.50 | ompaul | MatthiasShalom1: it has a really basic system in there then you add to that |
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| 19:28.23 | MatthiasShalom1 | I mean, the Mageia netinstaller is 20-55mb? |
| 19:28.37 | Emery | 20mb |
| 19:28.41 | Emery | debian 8 |
| 19:28.43 | Emery | 7 |
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| 19:28.45 | Emery | mini image |
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| 19:29.06 | MatthiasShalom1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:29.08 | ompaul | MatthiasShalom1: no idea and there I'll leave it to you to get on with the advise I have given |
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| 19:29.21 | MatthiasShalom1 | ompaul: thanks a lot |
| 19:29.38 | MatthiasShalom1 | What u think about Consort? |
| 19:29.43 | MatthiasShalom1 | @ all? |
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| 19:29.52 | jelly-home | MatthiasShalom1: what is that? |
| 19:29.56 | ompaul | offtopic I'd guess |
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| 19:30.14 | MatthiasShalom1 | jelly-home: A GTK3 DE |
| 19:30.35 | jelly-home | MatthiasShalom1: reference? |
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| 19:30.43 | MatthiasShalom1 | Works without Hardware Acceleration and use ~100MB with a complete System |
| 19:31.44 | ompaul | MatthiasShalom1: link please |
| 19:32.07 | MatthiasShalom1 | http://ng.solusos.com/faq-page#t2n10 |
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| 19:33.26 | MatthiasShalom1 | ompaul: https://github.com/SolusOS |
| 19:33.57 | DarkKnightCZ | hi, i've just compiled mesa from source and sucessfully installed it, but when i run glxinfo, it shows me the old version instead of the new one (libraries has been installed to /usr/local/lib) |
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| 19:34.07 | ompaul | MatthiasShalom1: all that stuff is offtopic for here |
| 19:34.15 | ompaul | we only deal with debian |
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| 19:34.20 | MatthiasShalom1 | I mean Consort of debian |
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| 19:34.35 | MatthiasShalom1 | I mean with |
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| 19:34.43 | MatthiasShalom1 | My English... |
| 19:35.24 | jelly-home | MatthiasShalom1: can't find any debian packaging, either in Debian or on that site |
| 19:35.39 | MatthiasShalom1 | Source? |
| 19:35.52 | jelly-home | can't find any sources, either |
| 19:35.58 | SM0TVI-2 | A quick question: If I want to change the kernel type or uprgrade my debian release, how do I do that? |
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| 19:36.02 | ompaul | MatthiasShalom1: it's not a debian program so no, you asked for kde you asked for stable - you are changing the goalposts and I am not happy with that |
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| 19:36.37 | ompaul | MatthiasShalom1: so I have nothing further to contribute to your install, I have given you my advice |
| 19:36.41 | MatthiasShalom1 | I love KDE and install it for a friend, i choose debain, because stability is most important for now and him |
| 19:36.55 | iLogic | hey guys, i've installed my / folder in a ssd my /home in a hdd, so I used tmpfs to mount /var/log to reduce wear and tear on the ssd, but now I get errors when running apache or postgresql.. I've tried to use a init script to create and set those dirs at rc2.d, but it doesn't seem to be working correctly.. is there a way to mount /var and it's sub directory on an already existing /home or do I have to create a new partition? |
| 19:37.09 | MatthiasShalom1 | I ask about Consort in debian, because its a very nice DE in my Eyes, especially for debian |
| 19:37.14 | jelly-home | MatthiasShalom1: I'm not sure KDE4, as it is present in debian 7, is the best option wrt stability |
| 19:37.32 | jelly-home | xfce might be a more conservative choice |
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| 19:38.13 | SM0TVI-2 | jelly-home: what about lxde? I'm trying it out and I am happy so far with it :) |
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| 19:38.31 | jelly-home | SM0TVI-2: never tried it |
| 19:39.33 | MatthiasShalom1 | jelly-home: Sources https://bitbucket.org/repo/all/relevance?name=Consort |
| 19:40.18 | MatthiasShalom1 | jelly-home: KDE 4.8.5 isnt stable? |
| 19:40.20 | rryoumaa | is this a good partitioning for a system with 4mb ram and a 2tb hd? in this sequence: 25 root, 5 swap, 256 home, rest of drive for videos etc. |
| 19:40.40 | MatthiasShalom1 | 4mb RAM? |
| 19:41.16 | ompaul | rryoumaa: give it 1 100 for root - you can install more codecs and players etc |
| 19:41.37 | uwjesq | I have multiarch and debian seems not to look in the right places for libraries. Compleately ignoring /usr/lib32 for example. Is there a real fix or do I have to add every path manually? |
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| 19:44.20 | ChibaPet | MatthiasShalom1: I can second that one too. My wife switched to Debian from a Mac, and we started with the KDE that ships with Wheezy, and it was somewhat unstable - combination of slow and crashy. She went to Gnome 3 and loves it. I'd look at Gnome and XFCE, myself. |
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| 19:45.31 | schnozzle | uwjesq: what files do you have in /etc/ld.so.conf.d? |
| 19:45.39 | MatthiasShalom1 | ChibaPet: thanks a lot |
| 19:45.47 | MatthiasShalom1 | Cinnamon? |
| 19:46.23 | rryoumaa | ompaul: wow that much?! i was also wondering if i need boot (i don't know what that does for you). |
| 19:46.38 | uwjesq | schnozzle: i486-linux-gnu.conf libR.conf zz_amd64-biarch-compat.conf libc.conf x86_64-linux-gnu.conf zz_i386-biarch-compat.conf |
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| 19:47.28 | ompaul | rryoumaa: I would if I had a TB and I might want lots of codecs, and various other tools for transcoding and what not |
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| 19:47.34 | uwjesq | schnozzle: I want to run a 32 bit app. |
| 19:47.40 | ompaul | rryoumaa: its not a lot in this day and age |
| 19:48.16 | rryoumaa | ompaul: i presume these capacity-gobbling codecs are in the debian repos? |
| 19:48.37 | schnozzle | does it tell something about a missing library if you run it from a terminal? |
| 19:49.26 | ompaul | rryoumaa: you can get some - my attitude to space is this, on 1TB if you need 900 you are doing it wrong |
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| 19:49.44 | uwjesq | schnozzle: Yes. |
| 19:49.57 | ompaul | rryoumaa: remember on any platter doing ext we tend to get slowdowns in seek when we get over 80% full |
| 19:50.09 | rryoumaa | good to know |
| 19:50.25 | anddam | rryoumaa: you need to check you measurement units |
| 19:50.39 | anddam | s/you m/your m/ |
| 19:50.45 | funyun | anyone here do freelance dedicated server set ups? or is that not allowed to be asked? |
| 19:50.47 | rryoumaa | gb not good enough? |
| 19:50.51 | schnozzle | uwjesq: and do you have that library's i386 version installed? |
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| 19:51.56 | uwjesq | schnozzle: I do. The first message I fixed by adding to the LD_PATH. |
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| 19:52.40 | anddam | rryoumaa: I'm fine with GBs |
| 19:52.41 | rryoumaa | MatthiasShalom1: ah, 4gb ram! |
| 19:52.49 | rryoumaa | anddam: is what i meant |
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| 19:53.01 | anddam | I figured, and I guess also your partitions were meant in GBs |
| 19:53.11 | rryoumaa | yes |
| 19:53.32 | anddam | nowadays I don't know of any full system that will work with that little RAM, even openwrt runs on 8-16 MB |
| 19:53.35 | ChibaPet | funyun: I don't think it's verboten to ask. That said, you're not in a great place to find someone local, at a guess. |
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| 19:53.59 | schnozzle | uwjesq: is that path contained in any of the files in /etc/ld.so.conf.d? one way is to: find /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ | xargs grep "the_path" -sl |
| 19:54.11 | funyun | ChibaPet: well the dedicated server is in france. i just need remote setup |
| 19:55.01 | anddam | funyun: OVH? |
| 19:55.05 | funyun | anddam: yes |
| 19:55.44 | anddam | I just setup two debian kimsufi, I'm not confident offering professional service but feel free to ask if you have issues |
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| 19:56.13 | funyun | anddam: may i PM you? |
| 19:56.19 | anddam | sure |
| 19:56.28 | anddam | strictly speaking it's a query on IRC |
| 19:56.49 | anddam | PM sounds a lot like webforum or, even worse, facebook |
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| 19:57.13 | uwjesq | schnozzle: Yes. In /etc/ld.so.conf.d/zz_i386-biarch-compat.conf:/usr/lib32 |
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| 20:02.35 | kingsley | Does anyone here happen to know of a package or program that accepts a date and time as input, and searches all files in /var/log for entries that happened at about the same time? |
| 20:04.01 | schnozzle | uwjesq: does /etc/ld.so.conf have a line like "include /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf" in it? |
| 20:04.06 | nmeum2 | _ "github.com/mattn/go-sqlite3" |
| 20:04.09 | nmeum2 | oops |
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| 20:04.12 | uwjesq | schnozzle: Yes. |
| 20:04.48 | schnozzle | uwjesq: what is the name of the program? does this happen with other 32 bit apps? |
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| 20:06.48 | Audon | I'd like to make xrandr use my settings at every boot. What's the best way to do this? |
| 20:06.56 | uwjesq | schnozzle: Stacking computer game. Happens to other games, too. |
| 20:07.28 | uwjesq | schnozzle: And this one lib. I can see the file in synaptic but it is not in the file system. |
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| 20:09.47 | schnozzle | uwjesq: listed in properties -> installed files at some location but it isn't there? |
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| 20:10.13 | anddam | rabbieth: what kind of kernel tweaks are you suggesting to funyun? |
| 20:10.18 | uwjesq | schnozzle: Yes. Can not see it. |
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| 20:10.41 | anddam | rabbieth: I mean I don't know anything about optimizing for streaming |
| 20:11.05 | schnozzle | uwjesq: i would mark it for reinstallation and click apply and see if it appeared where it should be |
| 20:11.28 | uwjesq | schnozzle: Aye. Lemme check. |
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| 20:12.04 | rabbieth | anddam: network-related. mostly ip/tcp-options, buffer sizes and so on :) for streaming the best advantage will be with nginx |
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| 20:13.30 | ariqz | how do the install dvds work? What happens if I just have, say... the first two? |
| 20:13.45 | somiaj_ | ariqz: you can get away with as small as a net install cd |
| 20:14.02 | ariqz | right, but are they ordered in a way that you get most functionality? |
| 20:14.05 | somiaj_ | ariqz: basically you can install packages from the dvd's or the internet. The more dvd's you have the more packages you have locally |
| 20:14.11 | uwjesq | schnozzle: I do not get it. It is not there /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1 |
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| 20:14.28 | ariqz | when I install it, how many packages are going to be automatically installed? |
| 20:14.30 | somiaj_ | ariqz: the first one (or two) should contain most common programs, but until you see what you want you won't know if it is on there. |
| 20:14.45 | somiaj_ | ariqz: it depends on the questions you answer at the end when you select the default tasks to install |
| 20:14.46 | schnozzle | ariqz: usually 1200 packages if you install gnome |
| 20:14.59 | ariqz | is gnome the GUI I'll want? |
| 20:15.08 | somiaj_ | only you can answer that |
| 20:15.12 | somiaj_ | it is the default |
| 20:15.17 | Ritzton | I am sorry I did rm on /var/log/mail.log and now it is not writing inside it at all :-/ |
| 20:15.22 | uwjesq | ariqz: Depends on what you want. |
| 20:15.23 | ariqz | ok, I thought it was something else for some reason |
| 20:15.28 | Ritzton | do you know how to fixe it this problem ? |
| 20:15.30 | schnozzle | uwjeqs |
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| 20:15.34 | schnozzle | whoops |
| 20:15.38 | uwjesq | schnozzle |
| 20:16.01 | schnozzle | uwjeqs: do you have an nvidia or ati/amd video card? |
| 20:16.22 | uwjesq | schnozzle: Yes. |
| 20:16.32 | schnozzle | uwjesq: which one? |
| 20:17.02 | uwjesq | schnozzle: No idea about 2 years old. |
| 20:17.29 | Audon | So does anyone know how I can get my xrandr config to load at every boot? At the moment I have to set up the screen layout manually at every boot |
| 20:17.49 | schnozzle | what does glxinfo | grep vendor output? |
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| 20:19.30 | somiaj_ | Audon: depends on your setup |
| 20:19.43 | schnozzle | uwjesq: or run "sudo lspci | grep VGA", that will tell the model too |
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| 20:19.49 | funyun | anddam: so as for the docs, where could i find those? |
| 20:19.49 | anddam | funyun: the changing kernel part seems to be well covered in http://forum.ovh.co.uk/showthread.php?t=5616 |
| 20:19.49 | somiaj_ | Audon: you could add the script to your .xsession (if you use that) if not use your wm/de to run the command at start |
| 20:20.04 | somiaj_ | Audon: you can also configure your xorg.conf to set the default resolution correctly |
| 20:20.17 | anddam | funyun: there's plenty but you'll have to focus on what you need |
| 20:20.20 | Audon | somiaj: I'm using the Arandr frontend, and I have a configuration saved. The resolution is fine at every boot |
| 20:20.28 | anddam | funyun: I assume you can install packages using APT, can't you? |
| 20:20.29 | uwjesq | schnozzle: GeForce 9600 GT |
| 20:20.44 | funyun | anddam: yes |
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| 20:21.13 | schnozzle | did you get the driver for it from nvidia's website or it just works/the driver's are from debian? |
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| 20:21.37 | uwjesq | schnozzle: Compiled with module assistant. |
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| 20:21.50 | Audon | somiaj_: I suppose I could use double help. I'd like to set up DWM as my default DE, and perhaps sorting out the screens will be in a similar file. |
| 20:22.23 | anddam | funyun: the OVH forum will guide you through the kernel change, it's basically an aptitude install and a tweak to grub's settings. be sure to read comment #8 |
| 20:22.41 | anddam | funyun: about the media streaming specific tuning I have absolutely no idea |
| 20:22.47 | schnozzle | uwjesq: you'll need libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386 . |
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| 20:22.59 | funyun | anddam: i am getting a new HDD because my current is failing, i assume i should install the new kernel before restoring, but could i do the rest of what i need done while/after restoring? or it all needs to be done before? |
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| 20:23.34 | anddam | funyun: OVH has a support section with a guide to recover your server if you screw bootloader |
| 20:23.45 | somiaj_ | Audon: what do you use to login? gdm3? |
| 20:23.46 | anddam | funyun: I'm not sure to understand the question |
| 20:24.08 | Audon | somiaj_: I use slim, and so I have to press f1 at every login to select DWM |
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| 20:24.31 | somiaj_ | Audon: look up how to configure slim, personally I would use the 'default' option |
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| 20:24.43 | funyun | anddam: i'm wondering should i do all of this when i get the fresh HDD and before i restore my old files? or is it okay to do after/during restoring? |
| 20:24.56 | somiaj_ | Audon: then you can configure your xsession with $HOME/xsession -- there you can put the xrandr command to change your resolutions and launch your de |
| 20:25.00 | somiaj_ | or wm |
| 20:25.00 | funyun | either way is okay, i just don't want to do it wrong |
| 20:25.02 | schnozzle | uwjesq: this is what libgl1-nvidia-glx-ia32's description says: "dpkg --add-architecture i386; apt-get update; apt-get install libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386" |
| 20:25.28 | somiaj_ | Audon: that is $HOME/.xsession |
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| 20:25.47 | Audon | somiaj_: Thank you for the help, I'll learn some slim now :P |
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| 20:26.48 | funyun | anddam: i'm mostly curious because the hard drive containing my backup files is only good for 4 days. so if i could backup while trying to set these things up, i would be guaranteed to backup all of my files within those 4 days |
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| 20:27.42 | schnozzle | uwjesq: this package is in 'non-free' in case you can't find it |
| 20:28.17 | uwjesq | schnozzle: It wants to remove nvidia-glx |
| 20:29.49 | uwjesq | schnozzle: Installing right now. |
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| 20:30.54 | schnozzle | which version of nvidia-glx do you have installed? maybe the versions don't match |
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| 20:34.49 | uwjesq | This worked. |
| 20:35.07 | onewanman | How do I mount Android 4.2.2 Nexus phone with Debian GNU/Linux 7.0 |
| 20:35.15 | schnozzle | uwjesq: it's funny because i had to do the exact thing an hour ago and i came to here to ask the same thing |
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| 20:37.03 | schnozzle | but then i figured out libgl1-nvidia-glx-ia32 doesn't provide the i386 libraries, as it says in the description |
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| 20:38.33 | smw | onewanman, gmtp can do file transfers |
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| 20:38.50 | smw | onewanman, it can't "mount", but close enough |
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| 20:43.42 | judd | Package: awesome on i386 -- squeeze: 3.4.6-1; wheezy: 3.4.13-1; jessie: 3.4.15-1; sid: 3.4.15-1 |
| 20:43.49 | truko22 | o/ |
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| 20:54.07 | avalarion | How to find out if this: https://bugs.php.net/patch-display.php?bug_id=61045&patch=bug61045-5.4.patch&revision=latest is fixed in my Debian wheezy? |
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| 21:01.10 | debdeb | sorry, i havent found a solution in te last hours: |
| 21:01.11 | debdeb | i want to execute a command _once_ on a boot _before_ my network is set up. i tried it in /etc/rc.local. unfortunately there it is to late as ifconfig allready shows established network. i dont want to execute the command every time /etc/init.d/networking is executed or any ifup/ifdown.. just once on a system-boot... a cronjob with "@reboot" is too late, too. what is my line here? |
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| 21:04.45 | anddam | funyun: was afk. I don't see any difference, you have a current status and you already have a backup. You can do the changes and make a new backup or you can do the changes, restore the backup to a status before the changes were made and then you have to apply them again |
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| 21:14.10 | aidan | How did Ubuntu overtake Debian on the server? I thought Ubuntu was just for desktop ... now Rackspace ONLY offers Ubuntu in their MCS offering |
| 21:14.14 | aidan | makes me sad |
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| 21:15.00 | digdilem | don't worry. canonical appear set on making ubuntu unusable in each release, so it won't last |
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| 21:15.59 | SM0TVI | has an interesting problem - can't seem to get his lappie to realize it has sound ports. |
| 21:16.00 | debdeb | they all come back to la mamma ;-) |
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| 21:24.18 | ChibaPet | debdeb: This is butchery, but you could always stick something in /etc/init.d/rcS :P |
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| 21:24.47 | ChibaPet | debdeb: Or just create a new service that needs to run before networking. |
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| 21:25.16 | debdeb | ChibaPet: that new service i have thought about, yes |
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| 21:25.55 | debdeb | ChibaPet: is there no "standard-way? like a rc.local, which is executed not so late? |
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| 21:27.04 | debdeb | ChibaPet: ok. thanks |
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| 22:01.32 | wxcafe | hey |
| 22:01.49 | wxcafe | err, i seem to have trouble setting up my graphic card under debian 8 |
| 22:02.25 | ompaul | there is no debian 8 yet |
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| 22:03.09 | ompaul | wxcafe: start at the beginning, running version wheezy or what? what kind of video card, desktop laptop etc |
| 22:03.11 | wxcafe | testing? |
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| 22:03.21 | ompaul | jessie |
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| 22:03.29 | ompaul | well that's going to be interesting right now |
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| 22:03.47 | wxcafe | so i'm using testing |
| 22:04.04 | wxcafe | the graphic card is an ATI radeon HD 7850 |
| 22:04.05 | ompaul | testing aka jessie, |
| 22:04.08 | ompaul | !ati |
| 22:04.08 | dpkg | To use an ATI/AMD graphics card with Debian, ask me about <radeon>, <fglrx>. Installing proprietary drivers from amd.com (i.e. with the ATI Driver Installer) is not supported in #debian, please go to #ati (irc.freenode.net). |
| 22:04.13 | wxcafe | i *think* i'm using the radeon driver (the free one) |
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| 22:04.24 | ompaul | and if you are what is wrong with it? |
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| 22:04.54 | wxcafe | (since debian installed all the driver when i installed xorg-xserver) |
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| 22:05.05 | wxcafe | well, i have three outputs on my video card |
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| 22:05.15 | ompaul | wxcafe: then you are using the free one - o lovely |
| 22:05.17 | wxcafe | xrandr only lists one |
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| 22:05.22 | wxcafe | http://pastie.org/7896528 |
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| 22:06.40 | wxcafe_ | (sorry, midori crashed) |
| 22:06.57 | ompaul | run it with --auto |
| 22:06.59 | wxcafe_ | so I only have one output recognized when i should have 3 |
| 22:07.02 | ompaul | that might help |
| 22:07.14 | wxcafe_ | no luck |
| 22:07.35 | wxcafe_ | the thing is, it only displays "default" as output, which is not quite normal |
| 22:07.40 | ompaul | wxcafe_: I don't have multiple so all I can do is read the man page - you may have to search to see if that driver does even handle more than one it may not |
| 22:07.42 | wxcafe_ | the radeon driver workied under arch |
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| 22:08.04 | ompaul | so there's hope yet |
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| 22:12.41 | wxcafe | so. |
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| 22:13.19 | tharkun | Is it possible to stop debhelper for a bit. Services are comming back up and it seems it is a bit confused. |
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| 22:13.29 | ompaul | gaaa bots, can't live with them, can't live without them |
| 22:13.33 | ChibaPet | debhelper DDOS |
| 22:13.37 | ChibaPet | Oh, it let you back in. |
| 22:13.44 | ompaul | aye |
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| 22:14.19 | ompaul | Myrtti: know any syntax to make debhelper stop with the +i for the moment or can you kill that +i please |
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| 22:15.28 | Myrtti | ompaul: sorry I've not been paying attention |
| 22:15.54 | ompaul | Myrtti: some splits so it's put the channel on +i |
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| 22:16.10 | ompaul | kind of stops the rejoiners |
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| 22:16.19 | ompaul | oh |
| 22:16.22 | ompaul | missed that |
| 22:16.29 | Myrtti | otherwise people couldn't join |
| 22:16.31 | ompaul | Myrtti: I got booted :) |
| 22:16.39 | ChibaPet | It were awful. |
| 22:16.44 | ompaul | Myrtti: if I had brains I'd not be myself :) |
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| 22:16.48 | tharkun | In a nutshel ddos pulled services down when they were restored it confused with a Nick flood |
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| 22:17.02 | ompaul | tharkun: aye |
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| 22:27.08 | offender4 | now my urine is spilling everywhere |
| 22:27.10 | offender4 | now my urine is spilling everywhere!!!! |
| 22:27.17 | Myrtti | offender4: *haukotus* |
| 22:27.25 | ompaul | offender4: that's not a debian tech support question is it? |
| 22:28.20 | ompaul | fair point |
| 22:28.58 | SM0TVI | I have a question related to tech support. How do I enable audio on my wheezy install. I've tried the top things from google, but no luck yet :( |
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| 22:29.53 | ompaul | SM0TVI: what desktop environment / window manager are you running |
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| 22:30.09 | SM0TVI | ompaul: LXDE |
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| 22:30.28 | ompaul | SM0TVI: pretty much you do the following in a terminal alsamixer and you should just look for stuff that is muted |
| 22:30.43 | MrFrood | !alsactl |
| 22:30.43 | dpkg | In Squeeze and later Debian releases, <alsaconf> is not available; ask me about <install alsa> and <alsa checklist>. You can try to configure <ALSA> by running 'alsactl init' as root - ignoring the 'Unknown hardware' error message - then reboot and test your audio device. |
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| 23:06.51 | SM0TVI | When one has moved ones HD to another computer, how does one reconfigure debian to that box? |
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| 23:14.02 | vampirefrog | SM0TVI, you should be able to just boot it |
| 23:14.38 | vampirefrog | SM0TVI, most stuff is autodetected afaik |
| 23:14.44 | larks | I moved a hdd from a p4 box to a dual e5430 machine and it worked, it was a bit messy.. but it worked |
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| 23:19.12 | larks | well I did "echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches" |
| 23:19.42 | larks | the thing is that it showed normal process memory usage gettign dropped and not buffers and caches |
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| 23:20.33 | SM0TVI | vampirefrog: It doesn't find the audio card (an ESS) |
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| 23:20.45 | vampirefrog | you'll just have to configure that |
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| 23:21.00 | vampirefrog | maybe you need to add some drivers or something |
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| 23:52.30 | sig-wall | User___: try to change "testing" to "stable" in /etc/apt/apt.conf(.d) |
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| 23:53.29 | sig-wall | seems that your sources.list contains only wheezy sources, which is now "stable", but apt.conf says that default release is "testing" |
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| 23:54.25 | DexterF | hi |
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| 23:54.36 | DexterF | is there a package with the *full* kernel code? |
| 23:55.38 | mumpitzel | DexterF: there are kernel sources, yes |
| 23:56.01 | mumpitzel | DexterF: apt-get source .... |
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| 23:56.37 | DexterF | d'oh. |
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| 23:59.04 | DexterF | if a kernel module from a driver (for a DVB module, linuxtv) builds ok against debians 3.2.31 kernel, 3.2.36 kernel, 3.2.39 kernel and a vanilla 3.8.5 but NOT against the current 3.2.41 kernel in deb7 - what could be wrong? |
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