| 00:00.08 | idler420_ | says |
| 00:00.10 | idler420_ | it can't remount |
| 00:00.14 | idler420_ | write protected |
| 00:00.16 | idler420_ | fuck debian |
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| 00:00.20 | idler420_ | 2nd drive it broke |
| 00:00.21 | idler420_ | haha |
| 00:00.21 | StefanQn1 | puh, allright during my first dist-upgrade it seems like pretty everything went wrong. Grub was messed up and it seems I can't properly install a kernel any more :( |
| 00:00.30 | idler420_ | next time |
| 00:00.35 | idler420_ | im going to break down crunchbang |
| 00:00.43 | nkuttler | StefanQn1: pastebin your error |
| 00:02.13 | idler420_ | rip laptop |
| 00:02.21 | StefanQn1 | nkuttler: aff, ok I'll install xfce on my rescue system to get here to paste ... |
| 00:02.43 | nkuttler | StefanQn1: there are tools like pastebinit you can use from the cli |
| 00:02.53 | nkuttler | StefanQn1: or join #flood if you like |
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| 00:06.49 | stefanqn2 | nkuttler, hi :) |
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| 00:08.56 | hesco | I expected this to return to me a list of the drupal config files in my apache's base document root: `find /var/www -name setting.php `, instead it gets me an empty prompt. I know these files are present. Just grep'd one of them a moment ago. I thought find was recursive by default. And if this is not the right place for this question, where might one find help with the find command. I thought I could actually do simple things like t |
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| 00:09.36 | hesco | I even modelled this against one of the examples in the man page. |
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| 00:10.27 | nkuttler | hesco: is there one file named precisely setting.php ? you're talking about multiple |
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| 00:12.07 | hesco | probably a few dozen actually. |
| 00:12.37 | stefanqn2 | nkuttler, http://paste.debian.net/6433/ |
| 00:13.23 | nkuttler | stefanqn2: hm, are you on wheezy? |
| 00:13.59 | nkuttler | stefanqn2: anyway, fix the prerm script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/, use set -x to debug if necessary |
| 00:14.00 | StefanQn1 | nkuttler: yes, I *should* be. The reboot after dist-upgrade didn't work |
| 00:14.17 | nkuttler | StefanQn1: huh? what does that mean? |
| 00:15.48 | StefanQn1 | nkuttler: during dist-upgrade grub complained and didn't install correctly because of a missing bios_boot flagged partition |
| 00:16.51 | StefanQn1 | nkuttler: so I've booted with the rescue cd, fixed the gpt grub issues with parted, then realized /boot/ was empty except /boot/grub/ |
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| 00:17.22 | dimitry7 | petn-randall, bye my friend. Hope to find you soon around. |
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| 00:17.29 | nkuttler | no kernel no cookies |
| 00:17.35 | StefanQn1 | nkuttler: and now I've chrooted to the root partition and mounted proc, dev and sys before, as well as boot |
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| 00:17.57 | nkuttler | StefanQn1: hm, why are you trying to remove a kernel image if /boot/ is empty? |
| 00:18.03 | nkuttler | StefanQn1: that doesn't sound right |
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| 00:19.03 | intosh | hesco: try with settings.php? :P |
| 00:19.05 | StefanQn1 | nkuttler: because I assume something with the new kernel went wrong during dist-upgrade, so I would like to remove the kernel completely for a fresh install |
| 00:19.27 | nkuttler | stefanqn2: anyway, fix the prerm script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/, use set -x to debug if necessary |
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| 00:20.33 | StefanQn1 | there's no prerm file in (...)/info/ |
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| 00:23.11 | nkuttler | StefanQn1: /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package>.prerm |
| 00:24.10 | hesco | intosh: thank you, I had been stuck on that one for a while. as stupid as I feel over missing the typo, its somehow something of a relief that I was using find in a useful way. I just had not learned to listen to what it had to say. |
| 00:25.10 | stefanqn2 | nkuttler, how do I fix it? ./linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64.prerm returns Use of uninitialized value $action in string eq at /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 27. |
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| 00:29.04 | nkuttler | stefanqn2: that sounds like a bug... |
| 00:29.33 | nkuttler | stefanqn2: well... one option is always to put an exit 0 on the second line of the file... i wouldn't really recommend it though |
| 00:29.44 | nkuttler | stefanqn2: fwiw, you can also apt-get install --reinstall a package |
| 00:30.05 | StefanQn1 | nkuttler: that failed, too |
| 00:30.46 | Guest81440 | I'm trying to create a custom menu entry using the information at http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/menu.html/ but it doesn't seem to be working. I have a file that looks right in ~/.menu/ but after running update-menus, no item is added to the menu. |
| 00:30.51 | Guest81440 | Any suggestions? |
| 00:31.39 | moof2 | Guest81440, oh, so you're packaging something and you want the packaging to add a menu and/or items? |
| 00:32.05 | Guest81440 | No, I'm trying to add a menu item for something in /usr/local/bin |
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| 00:36.52 | Guest81440 | According to section 6, a user can over-ride the default menu and add their own items by creating the appropriate files for them in ~/.menu/ |
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| 00:39.00 | stefanqn2 | nkuttler, apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 results in http://paste.debian.net/6440/ |
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| 00:41.05 | themill | Guest81440: do you really mean the debian menu here? or do you actually mean your gnome or kde applications menu? |
| 00:41.24 | moof2 | remember that debian packaging is not permitted to touch /usr/local, hence anything there would not be an official debian package... so, you suggesting ~/.menu sounds good... (altho it would only apply for the one user) |
| 00:41.28 | stefanqn2 | nkuttler, and apt-get install linux-image-amd64 | tee img.txt in http://paste.debian.net/6441 |
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| 00:46.54 | moof2 | Guest81440: I have a question similar to themill, different form: is it that you want to make sure your menu item gets into any kind of desktop env (or window mgr)? |
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| 00:51.55 | Guest81440 | I would like it to show up in the applications menu whether I'm using Gnome, KDE, or some other DE. |
| 00:52.25 | moof2 | that sounds like you want the menu system then |
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| 00:53.09 | moof2 | (as long as whatever of gnome, kde, some other de listens to the debian menu system |
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| 00:53.52 | themill | Guest81440: I suspect you want .desktop files then -- the debian menu that ~/.menu and that documentation refers to is not displayed in gnome |
| 00:55.06 | Guest81440 | well, that would explain why I'm not getting anything... |
| 00:55.19 | moof2 | themill, oh, it doesn't? hmm... would you consider that a bug in menu, such that the DEs shouldn't care about where in the menu system an item comes from? |
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| 00:55.55 | Guest81440 | Although that seems rather odd, wasn't the whole idea of the menu system to make the same menu system work for all DEs? |
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| 00:59.51 | themill | moof2: it's a deliberate decision by the gnome maintainers to not include the debian menu and other WMs are starting to follow suit. |
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| 01:01.37 | Guest81440 | ahhh, now I find a comment from Jason Clinton in 2010 saying that debian menu was going away as it was completely obsoleted by xdg specs |
| 01:01.38 | moof2 | ok, that blows away a lot of assumptions I had... the main one is, debian alters the DE or wm to receive menus |
| 01:01.38 | themill | moof2: the Debian menu is a separate beast -- it's not that gnome is pruning it from the menu structure, it's that gnome is not using a pile of extra code to include the debian-menu files into the xdg .desktop menu tree. |
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| 01:01.51 | themill | ,i menu-xdg |
| 01:01.52 | judd | Package menu-xdg (admin, optional) in wheezy/i386: freedesktop.org menu compliant window manager scripts. Version: 0.5; Size: 5.0k; Installed: 76k |
| 01:02.25 | ZitZ | would it be possible to forward dns queries through a socks proxy with an iptables rule? Or am I mistaken? |
| 01:02.29 | themill | ^^ that package is sufficient (I think) to make the old style menu reappear |
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| 01:04.06 | Guest81440 | well, at least I think I'm on the right path now. |
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| 01:04.38 | zeeflo | has anyone here successfully installed munin ? |
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| 01:07.13 | moof2 | themill, any idea why gnu/gnome made this decision? |
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| 01:14.26 | johnfg | the readme for php5-mysql implies that there should be a /etc/php5/apache2, and this is on wheezy, but there's not. |
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| 01:15.11 | moof2 | what would be in there? modules? |
| 01:15.11 | johnfg | there's only /etc/php5/apache2filter/php.ini |
| 01:15.20 | themill | moof2: The debian gnome packages carrying a pile of extra code to include this extra menu was always a debian-specific addition. The freedesktop menu files are easier to maintain, more flexible, translatable and are managed by the upstream developers rather than being a debian-specific addition. Getting rid of the crappy old .menu files will be an improvement |
| 01:15.28 | johnfg | moof2: No, I'm looking to adjust php.ini |
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| 01:15.59 | johnfg | I'm having trouble on wheezy with some of my php web pages not working/showing correctly. |
| 01:16.14 | moof2 | hmm |
| 01:16.55 | johnfg | Seems like the problem is with mysql being called vs. mysqli. |
| 01:16.57 | moof2 | johnfg, so I was just curious, only a coupla times over the years I played with php |
| 01:16.59 | Guest81440 | So, where should I put a .desktop file to make a menu item appear for only one user, and where would I put it to make an item appear for all users? |
| 01:17.31 | moof2 | themill, so the .desktop files are this better format you're referring to? |
| 01:17.39 | themill | moof2: yes |
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| 01:18.52 | moof2 | and is the debian menu system's functionality a proper subset of the .desktop file's functionality? |
| 01:19.16 | BenNZ | Guest81440: ~/.local/share/applications/ for your user and /usr/share/applications/ for all users |
| 01:19.20 | moof2 | it sounds like that's what you're saying |
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| 01:20.16 | themill | moof2: approximately, which is why the conversion seems to drag on |
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| 01:20.46 | Keyser_Soze30 | Has anyone yet faiced this problem, i am running debian with vmware in there, and in start all was fine now i am faced with some loads, so i turned all off, all processes, only linux running processes are runned, and i am facing load of 0.90 - 1.30 what it could be, i also have raid mirror 1 but software, but i checked hdd all resulsts passed fine |
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| 01:21.13 | johnfg | Not very clear at all how to enable mysqli |
| 01:21.42 | johnfg | In a web search, it's pretty much stating there's a problem...no solution yet. |
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| 01:29.59 | veek | i use debian squeeze; i'd like to switch to wheeze - is there a way to do a install online without burning to CD/DVD/USB etc |
| 01:30.17 | veek | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:30.33 | zeeflo | yea |
| 01:30.36 | caf | you can just do a straight upgrade, you don't need a CD image for that |
| 01:30.41 | zeeflo | its probably the easiest thing to do :) |
| 01:30.43 | peterrooney | dpkg: squeeze->wheezy |
| 01:30.43 | dpkg | Read chapter 4 ("Upgrades from Debian 6.0") of the <release notes>. In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "squeeze" to "wheezy" (noting that <wheezy-backports> have changed on the mirrors). apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade. See also <squeeze->wheezy failures>. |
| 01:31.15 | zeeflo | also |
| 01:31.18 | veek | ah thank you! |
| 01:31.22 | zeeflo | just be aware of any firmware warnings! |
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| 01:31.27 | caf | yeah read the release notes first though: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes |
| 01:31.28 | zeeflo | especially for network cards |
| 01:32.14 | zeeflo | you dont wanna upgrade, and have a firmware warning about your realtek NIC, and then do a remote reboot on your server without installing firmware beforehand ;) |
| 01:32.47 | johnfg | Any thoughts on mysqli on wheezy? |
| 01:32.49 | zeeflo | or broadcom or which ever nic you have in your pc/server |
| 01:33.50 | veek | zeeflo, ah nope it's my local browsing box |
| 01:33.58 | zeeflo | ah ok |
| 01:34.06 | Guest81440 | hmm, it sounds like I might need a .menu file in xml format as well... |
| 01:34.10 | zeeflo | then just follow dpkgs guide you just got! :) |
| 01:34.53 | Keyser_Soze30 | Anyone saw load on CPU like 1 - 1.50 and not having any processes to running ? |
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| 01:35.41 | zeeflo | htop it? |
| 01:35.51 | zeeflo | see what processes are running and consuming |
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| 01:36.28 | themill | johnfg: it should all just work out of the box -- it configures itself and works. |
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| 01:37.29 | johnfg | themill: You'd think. But all worked fine on squeeze; not on wheezy with php/mysql. |
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| 01:38.56 | themill | johnfg: you're going to have to find some real error messages from something. What's not working? What do the log files say? What does phpinfo() say when run through the web server? etc. At the moment, all I can say is that it works for me, and all you're saying is that it doesn't work for you. |
| 01:39.37 | zeeflo | and it really is a question for #httpd as well |
| 01:40.35 | themill | (it's not really an apache configuration question) |
| 01:41.17 | zeeflo | true.. Then #php or #mysql then ;) |
| 01:41.23 | zeeflo | its definately not an issue for # |
| 01:41.38 | johnfg | themill: thought you'd maybe looked at the paste of error.log from apache2 earlier |
| 01:42.19 | zeeflo | johnfg: check your apache configuration |
| 01:42.29 | zeeflo | apachectl -t |
| 01:42.49 | zeeflo | it will tell you if theres anything in your vhosts etc thats failing |
| 01:42.58 | johnfg | Syntax OK |
| 01:43.02 | zeeflo | then move on |
| 01:43.14 | uberdub | can anyone help with upgrading kernel? |
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| 01:43.31 | themill | johnfg: URL? I can't find any pastes from you in the last week in my irc logs |
| 01:43.56 | johnfg | But something changed, just google, mysqli on debian wheezy, and you'll see that there's lots of problems. |
| 01:44.01 | uberdub | im following this tutorial, but unsure what firmwares I would need |
| 01:44.06 | MachinaeWolf | I think I made sound issues worse instead of making them better :/ I setup jack to work with pulse and it does but now I get no sound at all on moc or vlc :( |
| 01:44.30 | johnfg | themill: I did it on dpaste, just a sec... |
| 01:45.06 | zeeflo | i remember when we was using apache v1.2 |
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| 01:45.16 | zeeflo | not so much troubleshooting back then ;) |
| 01:45.19 | johnfg | [Fri May 24 19:27:46 2013] [error] PHP Warning: mysql_fetch_array() expects parameter 1 to be resource, boolean given in /var/www/eprayer/eprayer.php on line 18 |
| 01:45.40 | zeeflo | johnfg: how do you consider that a wheezy issue? |
| 01:45.49 | johnfg | That's just a repeated 2 lines. that presents no problem with apache2 and php5 on squeeze. |
| 01:46.32 | johnfg | Why does it work on squeeze but not wheezy? Nothing was changed except the debian version. |
| 01:46.35 | Keyser_Soze30 | zeeflo: http://pastebin.com/fWjkzPq6 - Check it, about load |
| 01:46.39 | zeeflo | that error is php5-mysql telling you it cant fetch an array thats spedified in eprayer.php |
| 01:46.43 | zeeflo | ok |
| 01:46.55 | themill | johnfg: can youpastebin enough of a code snippet that we can understand that php file? |
| 01:47.40 | zeeflo | Keyser_Soze30: its your kworker |
| 01:48.02 | zeeflo | Keyser_Soze30: is your pc an Intel pc? |
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| 01:48.10 | Keyser_Soze30 | yes intel |
| 01:48.12 | jaggz | what can I do to prevent a remote server from doing something at boot where it might hang |
| 01:48.19 | Keyser_Soze30 | please explain me problem, since i dont see load of cpu? |
| 01:48.20 | Keyser_Soze30 | :S |
| 01:48.32 | zeeflo | then Keyser_Soze30 do this: apt-get install phc-intel |
| 01:48.40 | jaggz | packages wanting libc needs to be upgraded, but libc needs a new kernel |
| 01:48.41 | themill | johnfg: (also, that's a mysql extension function not mysqli so anything you're reading about mysqli isn't that relevant unless you're also planning to change the extension being used) |
| 01:48.50 | jaggz | *sigh*.. so stressful |
| 01:49.09 | Keyser_Soze30 | E: Unable to locate package phc-intel |
| 01:49.22 | zeeflo | besides Keyser_Soze30 a cpu isnt truly working untill it reaches about 16 ;) so dont sweat it about you 1.05 ;) |
| 01:49.32 | themill | jaggz: you're not trying wheezy in an openvz container on RHEL 5 or something are you? |
| 01:49.33 | zeeflo | hold on Keyser_Soze30 let me search |
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| 01:49.57 | jaggz | no.. this is on the live server.. no virtual machine |
| 01:50.12 | jaggz | debian 6.0.4 |
| 01:50.23 | themill | jaggz: so what kernel are you running and what libc are you trying to install? |
| 01:50.31 | johnfg | Ya. I'll paste both the eprayer.php and latestpr.php http://dpaste.com/1198381/ |
| 01:50.42 | Keyser_Soze30 | oke thanks, its not problem, but when i run my 50 virtuel mashines it gives me load, so i did this to test i turned off all processes, and i see that load, it means it would be working better if fix this, load should be 00 , and sometimes is 1 and reaches to 1.50 ;) |
| 01:51.25 | zeeflo | Keyser_Soze30: what kernel version are you running? |
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| 01:51.32 | jaggz | it's still at 2.6.18-6-686 I guess :( it looks like glibc-2.13-1 |
| 01:51.40 | zeeflo | yea |
| 01:51.46 | zeeflo | you should upgrade to 3.2 |
| 01:51.52 | Keyser_Soze30 | 3.7.10 |
| 01:51.55 | Keyser_Soze30 | ;) |
| 01:51.58 | themill | jaggz: don't mix etch and wheezy.... |
| 01:51.58 | zeeflo | ? |
| 01:52.05 | jaggz | I think it's squeeze |
| 01:52.06 | zeeflo | kernel 3.7? |
| 01:52.06 | Keyser_Soze30 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.09 | Keyser_Soze30 | yes |
| 01:52.12 | themill | jaggz: neither are from squeeze |
| 01:52.16 | zeeflo | uhmm... |
| 01:52.21 | jaggz | yikes |
| 01:52.31 | jaggz | that means my past dist-upgrade didn't work.. or maybe I didn't do it on this server? |
| 01:52.46 | Keyser_Soze30 | but look this zeeflo i have this server for few months, i have had no this problem since about 20-30 days ago, from than i have this problem |
| 01:52.54 | Keyser_Soze30 | so i dont understand what i messed up or cpu problem ? |
| 01:52.58 | themill | jaggz: and if you're getting libc6 2.13, then you've got either wheezy or stable in your sources.list too. |
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| 01:53.55 | themill | johnfg: you're not checking the value of $mquery before using it. Any error in connecting to mysql is going to return FALSE which then give that error. So.. that php is poor and you're just lucky that you never hit this problem before. As to the cause of the problem.. are the mysql-server and mysql-server-5.5 package actually installed? is mysqld actually running? |
| 01:54.07 | jaggz | yeah.. stable is in there.. I must not have upgraded this system.. |
| 01:54.25 | zeeflo | Keyser_Soze30: are you sure youre running kernel 3.7 ? |
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| 01:54.31 | jaggz | the remote stuff causes me concerns I guess.. |
| 01:54.33 | zeeflo | Im not even sure that kernel excists-.... |
| 01:54.39 | themill | jaggz: "stable" is always a bad thing to have in your sources.list. |
| 01:54.39 | Keyser_Soze30 | root@ns2312058:~# uname -r |
| 01:54.39 | Keyser_Soze30 | 3.7.10-hehe-64 |
| 01:54.43 | Keyser_Soze30 | yes i am ;) |
| 01:54.46 | Keyser_Soze30 | its new kernel |
| 01:54.51 | Keyser_Soze30 | i compiled it 2 months ahgo |
| 01:54.52 | Keyser_Soze30 | ago |
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| 01:55.11 | zeeflo | kworker is related to your cpu.. |
| 01:55.19 | zeeflo | i cant be of help with that kernel.. |
| 01:55.22 | zeeflo | sorry |
| 01:55.39 | zeeflo | it might be the issue is in fact that kernel.. |
| 01:55.42 | jaggz | even on a live server? I was tending towards "stability" |
| 01:55.56 | jaggz | but I guess no upgrades are a bad thing for true stability too |
| 01:56.25 | themill | jaggz: on any machine and particularly a remote machine. One day "stable" suddenly changes from squeeze to wheezy and then you have a pile of mess. |
| 01:56.47 | Keyser_Soze30 | zeeflo i am saying there was no problem some time, now i faced problem, so i doubt it is kernel, il boot other kernel to check |
| 01:57.49 | zeeflo | im pretty sure its a kernel issue Keyser_Soze30 .. Or perhaps you have installed software that patched your kernel.. |
| 01:58.17 | zeeflo | or it could have been md0 rebuilding etc |
| 01:58.32 | zeeflo | but it doesnt look like it from your htop |
| 01:58.41 | Keyser_Soze30 | explain me this about md0 rebuiding, explain me ? |
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| 01:59.18 | zeeflo | every x times of boot, your md0 will selfcheck |
| 01:59.29 | zeeflo | it can take a long time, and it consumes cpu |
| 01:59.52 | zeeflo | you can see that in atop |
| 01:59.56 | zeeflo | apt-get install atop |
| 02:00.00 | Keyser_Soze30 | maybe thats it, can you understand from this? |
| 02:00.01 | zeeflo | see if your disks are red |
| 02:00.05 | Keyser_Soze30 | in atop i can and in top no ?ok sec |
| 02:00.13 | Keyser_Soze30 | i rebooted other kernel ;) wait little :P |
| 02:00.19 | veek | i'm switching from squeeze to wheezy.. will this nuke /root and my data? Also, Chap 4 says that i need to add deb wheezy to sources.list and then.. should I comment out all my other deb lines that refer to squeeze |
| 02:00.20 | Keyser_Soze30 | rebooted to other kernel < |
| 02:00.42 | zeeflo | veek: you will not loose any data |
| 02:00.52 | veek | Section 4.4 |
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| 02:00.56 | zeeflo | only your image and distro gets updated |
| 02:01.09 | jaggz-- | themill, use literal ditribution versions? |
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| 02:01.14 | veek | zeeflo, ah! good - thanks |
| 02:01.16 | jaggz-- | named |
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| 02:02.13 | caf | it's preferable to comment out the squeeze lines but not strictly necessary |
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| 02:02.34 | themill | jaggz--: yes. If you want to run squeeze, use squeeze and then when you decide it's time to upgrade, sed -i s/squeeze/wheezy/ … and do the upgrade (following the release notes). It's not really much of a hassle to do that extra replacement and it saves tears in the long run |
| 02:02.59 | jaggz-- | caf, what's the difference between removing them (or replacing "squeezy" with "wheeze") and leaving them in? |
| 02:03.13 | jaggz-- | I normally replace the name (normal for me is rare) |
| 02:03.24 | zeeflo | Keyser_Soze30: i gotta go to sleep soon, anything new? |
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| 02:04.18 | jaggz-- | what I'm asking is.. is it possible something breaks because it depends on an old squeeze version? |
| 02:04.31 | themill | jaggz--: there are a couple of times for squeeze→wheezy where apt seems to handle the upgrade better where squeeze is left in, but that's just because of some bugs in apt and adding in extra packages changes its ordering of packages and lets it work through the problem. (You may find that having the extra packages there causes the same problem in other situations) |
| 02:04.36 | Keyser_Soze30 | hm some problem with boot, il go to kvm, please go sleep, not let me keep you :) il sort this out, thanks a lot zeeflo |
| 02:04.39 | Keyser_Soze30 | atop il cehck |
| 02:04.40 | Keyser_Soze30 | check |
| 02:04.41 | jaggz-- | some weird thing I've installed .. and leaving the squeeze lines in will allow those packages to stay.. ? |
| 02:05.08 | zeeflo | Keyser_Soze30: Good luck with it :) |
| 02:05.12 | themill | jaggz--: generally I like to make sure that the old release is not in sources.list so I can easily check that everything is upgraded (/msg dpkg obsolete; /msg dpkg not available) |
| 02:05.23 | jaggz-- | in all those cases I should see it and be able to deal with it (I won't find out at boot) I hope .. ? :) |
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| 02:05.28 | Keyser_Soze30 | :)) tnx |
| 02:05.38 | nvz | I have a squeeze box here running bpo kernel 3.2.0-0-bpo.3 with fglrx and for seemingly no reason I can deduce it now boots to a black screen I have to SAK to get here to the console, even numlock light wont respond before doing a SAK |
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| 02:06.00 | nvz | there are no errors in the X log.. I'm using HDMI.. not sure what the problem is and my best idea at a solution is to reinstall fglrx |
| 02:06.29 | jaggz-- | sak? |
| 02:06.54 | nvz | jaggz--: no SAK.. heh. Sysrq+Alt+K its a sysrq kill or SAK is what its called |
| 02:06.55 | converge | My eth0 is ok, but wireless conection is very slow, can someone help me ? Im using wheezy with wicd |
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| 02:07.15 | nvz | it kills whatever is hanging the system in most cases, but its selection of what to kill is configurable at compile time |
| 02:07.32 | jaggz-- | you can't use alt-shift-f1 to get to console? |
| 02:07.47 | jaggz-- | I never knew about SAK |
| 02:07.52 | nvz | jaggz--: nope nothing else works before I do the SAK.. wont even turn the numlock light on as I said.. |
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| 02:08.22 | nvz | jaggz--: sysrq is great.. you can do virtually everything from Sysrq commands.. flush the disks, all that fun stuff.. |
| 02:08.23 | jaggz-- | right.. interesting |
| 02:08.30 | jaggz-- | themill, thank you, as usual. |
| 02:09.06 | nvz | I'd have already reinstalled fglrx but it kinda seems like this machine had it installed using the upstream installer and I dont see it anywhere.. so I'm not sure how to proceed |
| 02:09.40 | nvz | I see no reason its not working.. obviously the hdmi works, I'm on it now. The logs seem to indicate X is working fine.. idk |
| 02:09.47 | jaggz-- | nvz, I'm surprised if the video locked up your kb.. I don't want to distract you from the issue, but maybe it's something else which caused it? you didn't say you upgraded anything.. |
| 02:10.14 | jaggz-- | ie. when did this start? |
| 02:10.16 | nvz | jaggz--: na my idea is it could possibly be power supply or ram.. cause this doesnt seem like a GPU hang.. there is no idication of such |
| 02:10.31 | nvz | jaggz--: I just got here.. but I can ask :-P |
| 02:10.55 | jaggz-- | let us know :) |
| 02:11.20 | jaggz-- | I'm saying 'us' as if I'm good at any of this stuff, and .. placing more burden on others here probably :} |
| 02:11.26 | jaggz-- | speaking of which, afk |
| 02:11.28 | nvz | yeah we have no further info.. I set this up.. a LONG time ago.. seems like I locked it at this kernel version to keep it from screwing up anything |
| 02:11.50 | nvz | not sure what the reason was for using the BPO kernel but I'm sure it was needed for something or I wouldnt have done it |
| 02:12.49 | nvz | I checked dmesg, messages, syslog, xlog, nothing indicating any oops, panic, hangs or anything.. according to the logs the system is booting properly.. but all I see is a black screen and the system is unresponsive until I SAK |
| 02:13.26 | nvz | happens when X loads.. cause if I boot recovery and use xinit or startx it locks up just the same |
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| 02:13.53 | nvz | and its PCIe graphics, so that makes even the ram idea seem less likely.. cause its got its own ram |
| 02:14.22 | nvz | some probing or something going on starting X is hanging the machine and somehow or another not leaving any traces in the logs |
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| 02:15.32 | nvz | I'm at a loss what to do right now other than try fetch the ATI driver and use it to uninstall the one on the system then try again to do it the debian way or with a newer upstream driver |
| 02:16.03 | nvz | I know the kernel hasn't changed though.. thats one of the first things I checked.. realized I made sure he didnt upgrade the kernel and cause any breakage |
| 02:18.19 | moof2 | so I have a problem with another machine, somehow installed dracut, which remade my initrds embedding part of itself... then booting, (1) it only decides to activate one (of many) volume groups. Of coiurse, the first in alphabetical order is not the right one.... then it drops into dracut shell, and (of course) keyboard doesn't work; maybe missing usb drivers? |
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| 02:20.04 | moof2 | anyway, if I can make the physical disk available to a squeeze laptop, is it possible I can rebuild initrds with NOT NOT NOT dracut? (evil dracut...) |
| 02:20.44 | nvz | sounds like you're having as much fun as I am.. I never heard of dracut though so I got no idea what you got goin on there. |
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| 02:21.11 | moof2 | I didn't either, and I didn't know then that dracut was doing those things |
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| 02:24.25 | nvz | oh well.. hopefully reinstalling an ati driver solves this problem.. cause otherwise I'm callin it hardware problems and runnin away |
| 02:26.45 | nvz | going down for a reboot |
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| 02:44.49 | moof2 | so, given a wheezy (with this dracut thing) installed on a different machine, can I put the drive on a different (squeeze) machine and rebuild its initrd using the initrd builder of a different machine (specifically the squeeze laptop)? |
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| 02:49.48 | seeker61 | why wont noaa's radar loop for me i have icetea and java-common |
| 02:50.25 | naquad | is there some kind of useful motd gallery? maybe something showing latest activity on box or just nice ascii art |
| 02:50.26 | sonofzeus | any python coders here? |
| 02:50.26 | naquad | ? |
| 02:50.42 | naquad | sonofzeus, what do you need? |
| 02:51.01 | sonofzeus | you code python? |
| 02:51.10 | moof2 | sonofzeus, might be one on #python |
| 02:51.11 | naquad | sonofzeus, no, i eat pythons. ask already |
| 02:51.18 | naquad | or yes, go to #python |
| 02:51.30 | sonofzeus | okay sorry |
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| 03:01.24 | cesurasean | hello. |
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| 03:04.44 | peterrooney | naquad: fortune; also man agetty for a complete list of escape sequences |
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| 03:09.03 | Erealz | hi everyone i need help real quick . i just installed debian 7 on my netbook but no wireless drivers were installed i believe it a brodcom i need to know what apt-get driver do i install to make wireless work |
| 03:09.35 | mumpitze1 | find out which chip it actually is with lspci -nn |
| 03:09.44 | darthanubis | synaptic does not properly edit sources.list anymore. Is there a way to correct this to restore default behavior? |
| 03:11.31 | Erealz | broadcom bcm4313? |
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| 03:13.17 | Erealz | plz anyone? |
| 03:15.24 | naquad | peterrooney, fortune is now what i'm looking for |
| 03:15.30 | naquad | i need some useful info |
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| 03:18.06 | LtL | dpkg: brcmsmac |
| 03:18.07 | dpkg | brcmsmac (brcm80211 prior to Linux 2.6.39) is an open source <mac80211> driver, supporting 802.11n PCIe devices based on Broadcom <BCM4313>, <BCM43224> and <BCM43225> chips. Firmware is required (bcm43xx-0.fw, bcm43xx_hdr-0.fw), ask me about <non-free sources> and install the firmware-brcm80211 package to provide. http://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211 |
| 03:18.30 | LtL | Erealz: read dpkg's msg, that's for you |
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| 03:25.05 | LtL | prompt32: we don't need your away status, thank you |
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| 03:46.09 | jaggz-- | why'd my aptitude update lock up? |
| 03:46.29 | jaggz-- | I replaced "stable" with "squeeze" and did the update |
| 03:46.37 | jaggz-- | I have one squeeze-backports line too |
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| 03:49.17 | squisher | jaggz, did you try it again? |
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| 03:50.45 | peterrooney | jaggz--: did you do any updates this month before changing sources.list? |
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| 03:51.58 | jaggz-- | not in a while.. maybe not this month |
| 03:52.14 | jaggz-- | ctrl-c doesn't even abort it |
| 03:52.20 | jaggz-- | ctrl-z won't suspend it |
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| 03:52.52 | jaggz-- | if I kill it is there a cleanup process to run? |
| 03:53.42 | mmnicolas | jaggz--: it will attempt to clean up itself |
| 03:54.45 | jaggz-- | it finally aborted on its own.. yay |
| 03:54.48 | jaggz-- | ! |
| 03:55.12 | jaggz-- | and a re-run works.. thanks squisher, peter, nico |
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| 03:57.44 | delta0 | Hello community |
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| 03:58.24 | delta0 | I am a question for you, I need to join to one free software project, but I don't know what is the best recommendations |
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| 04:00.27 | elkingrey | I have a relatively fresh install of Debian and haven't touched anything firewall related. How important is it to set up a firewall? Does a firewall program already come with Debain or do I need to install one? Firewalls is something I've tried and failed at understanding many times. Can somebody point a beginner in the right direction? |
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| 04:00.52 | mmnicolas | delta0: join their mailing list of the project's preferred channel of communication |
| 04:01.00 | mmnicolas | *or |
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| 04:02.45 | nevyn | elkingrey: a firewall is a set of rules for allowing or disallowing network traffic. |
| 04:03.13 | mmnicolas | elkingrey: by default netfilter (iptables) has no rules set |
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| 04:04.23 | elkingrey | I know what a firewall is, just don't know how to configure one properly or how important it is. |
| 04:04.38 | sawjig | elkingrey, if it's a laptop you use on networks other than your own or a computer you're directly connected to the internet a firewall is a good idea. |
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| 04:04.42 | mmnicolas | unless you are a high-profile internet entity running kinky services I wouldn't bother, you're probably behind your routers firewall anyway |
| 04:05.20 | elkingrey | It's a desktop and I'm the only one that uses it. |
| 04:05.21 | sawjig | elkingrey, if it's a computer you only use on your home LAN that's behind a firewall already, as mmnicolas stated it's probably nothing to fixate on. |
| 04:05.35 | elkingrey | ok |
| 04:06.00 | elkingrey | Any point in configuring my router's firewall? |
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| 04:06.23 | sawjig | elkingrey, if you haven't needed to do anything to it already it's probably configured enough by defaults. |
| 04:06.29 | elkingrey | ok |
| 04:06.40 | sawjig | elkingrey, only thing you might want to do if your'e conecerned about security is check your model for security advisories. |
| 04:06.50 | elkingrey | ok |
| 04:07.00 | sawjig | elkingrey, while upgrading a router can sometimes brick it there are updates sometimes for security vulnerabilities. |
| 04:07.12 | sawjig | Depends on if you're upgrading software it runs or it's firmware. |
| 04:08.19 | elkingrey | Looking at my current router settings, my firewall is set to No Security |
| 04:09.54 | sawjig | Sounds like a wireless setting, but you should just google your router's make and model into google. |
| 04:10.02 | nickmoeck | That doesn't really necessarily mean "No Security". As long as you're not forwarding every port to your computer, your router should, by default, be blocking everything incoming. |
| 04:10.06 | sawjig | The way things are worded and set up in home routers varies greatly. |
| 04:10.28 | sawjig | nickmoeck, sounds like a setting for wireless encryption to me. |
| 04:10.46 | nickmoeck | Yeah, that's definitely a possibility |
| 04:10.54 | freax | especially checkoslovakian routers |
| 04:11.12 | LtL | elkingrey: just be sure your router config is NOT accessible from WAN access for starters. |
| 04:11.25 | sawjig | without a make and model can't really say what 'no security' means. |
| 04:11.42 | elkingrey | okay, cool. Thanks everybody |
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| 04:39.02 | deadalnix | help ! since my last upgrade, all programs are gone from the shell |
| 04:39.12 | deadalnix | that are still in the computer, I can run them via command line |
| 04:39.24 | deadalnix | but none appear in the shell |
| 04:40.01 | mmnicolas | the shell ? |
| 04:40.11 | jpinx | conch maybe ? |
| 04:40.27 | mumpitze1 | deadalnix: which DE do you use? |
| 04:40.46 | deadalnix | jpinx, conch ? |
| 04:41.00 | deadalnix | mumpitze1, DE ? |
| 04:41.31 | mumpitze1 | desktop environment |
| 04:41.34 | deadalnix | mmnicolas, the shell from gnome-shell |
| 04:41.44 | deadalnix | mumpitze1, ha, gnome3 |
| 04:41.57 | deadalnix | sorry |
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| 05:05.50 | KombuchaKip | What is the most reliable way for a bash script to check if a debian package is already installed on the system? 'apt-cache policy <package>' seems to return 0 whether it is or is not and grepping for "Installed:" is locale dependent. |
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| 05:07.03 | mumpitze1 | dpkg -l |
| 05:07.03 | dpkg | Files in package mumpitze1-pr0n: /srv/mumpitze1-pr0n/mumpitze1.jpg |
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| 05:07.34 | mumpitze1 | if it is installed, the line for it begins with "ii". some regex magic should cover it |
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| 05:11.51 | KombuchaKip | mumpitze1: Hmm, I'm thinking dpkg-query -W <package> might be better because the return code seems to be reliable and better to go with return codes where available than grepping text. |
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| 05:13.22 | nvz | jaggz--: I think it was you I spoke to a bit ago about SAK |
| 05:14.24 | nvz | either way two whom it may concern I found out after I downloaded and installed an ATI driver that the problem with that machine was the HDD.. first clue was chrome had a download fail, then crashed.. then two other browsers failed to start with IO errors.. and I checked dmesg and finally seen filesystem errors.. |
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| 05:15.05 | nvz | I had an inclination it was a hardware problem but since it was booting and showing no errors in any logs I was leaning towards RAM or PS but then after awhile the HDD revealed it was fubar |
| 05:16.26 | nvz | was rather strange it was booting to a black screen or booting fine into recovery and letting me fool around with stuff without throwing any hdd errors and even passed the damn FSCK on boot.. yet the hdd was damaged enough to cause the system to hang when X loaded |
| 05:17.00 | deadalnix | mmnicolas, mumpitze1, jpinx, removing .config/menus solved it |
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| 05:17.40 | nvz | bad news is I didn't get it fixed, good news is I'm gonna make a few bucks and sell him the hdd outta my desktop |
| 05:17.44 | peterrooney | Hardware problems are rare enough that they always have me scratching my head for a long time before I even suspect it. |
| 05:18.41 | nvz | I've been doing this shit for about 20 years and got a background in electronics and a sort of thinktank among my friends which includes physicists and such.. so I have a mutifaceted approach at problem solving |
| 05:19.47 | nvz | I dont go by the book with a simple diagnostic tree.. or even treat it solely like a "technology" problem.. I just kind of feel it out.. people even think I'm weird cause I'll look around at the area around the computer, check cords, listen to it, smell it.. etc.. heh before I even start |
| 05:20.02 | peterrooney | weirdo. |
| 05:20.09 | nvz | too many times have I overlooked a chewed up laptop cord or sometihng like that |
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| 05:20.28 | master_j | have you ever changed ram on an imac? |
| 05:20.47 | johnfg | sorry to be away so long. Yes, mysqld is running. It's not 'my' code, but it's worked for quite a while. |
| 05:20.51 | master_j | those things are dumb. |
| 05:20.51 | nvz | not to mention being stange about it sets people off gaurd and they're easier to read and get the truth of what happend out of when they're distracted by wondering how you can tell the time by lifting a bull's balls |
| 05:21.40 | nvz | I've never serviced a mac.. got called to do it once.. it was ancient and I just replaced it |
| 05:21.42 | peterrooney | master_j: which ones? gumdrop, lampshade, G5, core2... |
| 05:21.59 | master_j | the old funny colored ones |
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| 05:22.28 | master_j | i ended up snapping the ram in half. |
| 05:22.40 | master_j | trying to yank it out |
| 05:22.49 | johnfg | themill: Did you happen to google 'mysqli not working on debian wheezy'? Lots of people having problems. |
| 05:23.03 | johnfg | But I'm not php or mysql expert,more's the pity. |
| 05:23.25 | nvz | I many times considered learning more about mac at least their os anyhow.. but really I never had any need working in the field.. I'd rarely if ever see em.. there were maybe two in the Glaxo Smith Kline building which was 5 floors with like 3 wings on each floor.. and they only had like two macs.. in the advertising department.. where they did a lot of graphic design.. |
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| 05:24.07 | master_j | my customer got really mad at me. the plus side was i never had to work on a mac again. |
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| 05:25.45 | master_j | is currently downgrading his packages to wheezy because testing & unstable are a bit weird atm |
| 05:26.00 | nvz | I think I'd rather work for mac users than dell users.. in the business world anyhow.. the only thing worse than a dell business is one that requires you to deal with their independent service requirements.. ugh.. grow up and use IBM/Lenovo! |
| 05:26.57 | nvz | I actually was sitting here talking to a workers comp guy the other day and he had the T400 (I have a T500 adn T 61 currently) and he said I looked like I was gonna say something.. and I said, "no I'm just admiring your thinkpad." |
| 05:27.26 | nvz | he says to me "oh, its not a thinkpad.. " lol... and thats your typical thinkpad owner.. so dumb they dont even know what it is.. they don't deserve to have one |
| 05:28.20 | master_j | what did he think it was? :P |
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| 05:28.54 | master_j | that's odd |
| 05:29.55 | nvz | you can spot a thinkpad from quite a distance.. they're black with big silver hinges on em.. and thats a defining feature that tells you this isn't a plastic molded frame.. its got a steel roll cage attached by these big f'n hinges.. I can have Evander Holyfield come over here and put his fist through this screen right now and this thinkpad would still be in one piece.. big hole in it sure.. but it'd still be held together.. |
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| 05:30.48 | master_j | ok, what am i missing now. where is gksu |
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| 05:31.03 | nvz | /usr/bin/gksu |
| 05:31.04 | master_j | debiAAAAAAN |
| 05:31.13 | master_j | i don't see it in the wheezy repo |
| 05:31.29 | nvz | I'm on wheeze and just typed /exec -o which gksu |
| 05:31.35 | master_j | right |
| 05:31.39 | nvz | though I installed before it went stable |
| 05:31.43 | master_j | but, you prob .. yeah |
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| 05:32.25 | mumpitze1 | master_j: http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=%2Fusr%2Fbin%2Fgksu&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any |
| 05:32.41 | nvz | oh well.. I just came to say an FYI that the earlier issue where this machine was randomly booting to a black screen all of a sudden with no errors in logs was a HDD error.. gonna go to bed.. later |
| 05:32.58 | master_j | thanks. hmm that's weird. |
| 05:33.02 | nullby7e | is not possible ti use two ports in one video with one monitor |
| 05:33.10 | master_j | lol i'm freaking out |
| 05:33.16 | nullby7e | vga and hdmi |
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| 05:33.41 | mumpitze1 | nullby7e: what would you use it for when you only have a single monitor? |
| 05:34.18 | nullby7e | mmnicolas: with hdmi video in dos is not in full-screen |
| 05:34.40 | nullby7e | mumpitze1 |
| 05:36.10 | master_j | i'm getting No candidate version found for gksu |
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| 05:43.13 | master_j | i wonder if there's a way to list all installed packages that aren't in the current repo. |
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| 05:46.56 | jiohdi | with synaptic you can list all installed |
| 05:48.07 | master_j | yeah, i just have to go through them one by one... almost there.. |
| 05:48.33 | jiohdi | what are you trying to find? |
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| 05:49.07 | moof2 | !not available |
| 05:49.07 | dpkg | To get a list of packages you have installed now, that are not available from any repository in your sources.list: aptitude search '?narrow(?not(?archive("^[^n][^o].*$")),?version(CURRENT))' |
| 05:49.12 | master_j | packages from testing. i'm downgrading them :p |
| 05:49.28 | master_j | wow, thanks! |
| 05:49.44 | jiohdi | in synaptic, can't you just select testing on the left and installed on the top of the lists |
| 05:49.48 | moof2 | it's pretty much a miracle I remembered that factoid name |
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| 05:50.14 | moof2 | I don't know, I have almost no experience with synaptic |
| 05:50.23 | master_j | nope. they aren't listed in the testing origin. they're listed under 'local' |
| 05:50.44 | master_j | i wish the origin fields in synaptic were a bit clearer |
| 05:51.04 | moof2 | does that command do what you want? |
| 05:52.10 | master_j | hmm. no i don't think so. it's listing apt, so that can't be right |
| 05:52.33 | moof2 | \not sure I understand |
| 05:53.02 | moof2 | I believe apt is required/base |
| 05:53.19 | master_j | yeah, it should be available from my repo |
| 05:53.37 | moof2 | could you pastebin your sources.list |
| 05:53.40 | master_j | so it shouldn't be listed |
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| 05:54.00 | master_j | sure |
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| 05:54.35 | master_j | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=mr2sCrGi |
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| 05:54.50 | master_j | i am definetly having problems with it. but i don't think it's the source file itself |
| 05:55.00 | moof2 | hmm, I'm having this scroll problem with that site |
| 05:55.17 | moof2 | howbout gist.github.org |
| 05:55.47 | master_j | bad link |
| 05:56.16 | master_j | deb http://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib |
| 05:56.27 | master_j | deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main |
| 05:56.41 | master_j | then the mate repo, and crawl stone soup repo. |
| 05:57.07 | master_j | i can't download gksu so i know somethings up... |
| 05:57.13 | moof2 | did you run aptitude update? |
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| 05:58.10 | master_j | lol |
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| 05:58.24 | master_j | i've had a long day... |
| 05:58.28 | master_j | thanks :D |
| 05:58.41 | freax | salutes |
| 05:59.27 | master_j | ah, that command seems to be working now as well.. god... |
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| 05:59.40 | master_j | tgif |
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| 06:00.48 | master_j | well, not working great actually, but that's ok |
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| 06:06.36 | moof2 | master_j, was something not to your expectation? |
| 06:07.10 | master_j | yeah, it's still listing packages that should be available in my current repos. |
| 06:08.38 | moof2 | were any errors or warnings encountered when you did the update? |
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| 06:13.35 | master_j | does it work for you? |
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| 06:14.13 | moof2 | updating? it should |
| 06:14.36 | master_j | !not available |
| 06:14.36 | dpkg | To get a list of packages you have installed now, that are not available from any repository in your sources.list: aptitude search '?narrow(?not(?archive("^[^n][^o].*$")),?version(CURRENT))' |
| 06:14.43 | master_j | that command |
| 06:16.53 | master_j | i can live without it, anywho. it'll still be a pain to downgrade the packages even with a handy list of which ones they are |
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| 06:17.08 | moof2 | yeah, seems to have worked |
| 06:17.22 | mumpitze1 | master_j: what command are you missing? |
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| 06:19.36 | master_j | that command that dpkg said. it's not working for me. but i was in testing so i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of things were/are wanky. hence my desire to get back to wheezy. |
| 06:21.11 | ovidiu-florin | Hello world :D |
| 06:21.24 | moof2 | so what you're saying is there exists a package on the list that shouldn't be... could you give an example? |
| 06:21.59 | master_j | dbus |
| 06:22.11 | moof2 | , versions dbus |
| 06:22.12 | judd | Package: dbus on i386 -- squeeze: 1.2.24-4+squeeze2; wheezy: 1.6.8-1; jessie: 1.6.10-1; sid: 1.6.10-1; experimental: 1.7.2-1 |
| 06:22.15 | master_j | hi, world |
| 06:22.27 | moof2 | which version of dbus is on the list? |
| 06:22.34 | ovidiu-florin | I've just installed Wheezy... ifconfig does not work. I've tried with ip link but that does not show me the IPv4 IP that the dhcpd gave to my eth0. how do I check that? |
| 06:22.52 | master_j | oooh |
| 06:23.01 | master_j | it's listing the version diffs |
| 06:23.09 | master_j | ok that makes more sense... let's see |
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| 06:23.31 | master_j | i might need to save this for tomorrow lol my brains not working |
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| 06:24.05 | jiohdi | master_j, did you try apt-get install -f |
| 06:24.11 | jiohdi | to resolve dependencies |
| 06:24.15 | master_j | well, it's listing mate-core. i know there's only one version of that |
| 06:24.47 | master_j | help ovidiu-florin my problems are nothing :) |
| 06:25.16 | moof2 | and, judd wouldn't be able to help us with that if it's not in an official repo |
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| 06:27.51 | mumpitze1 | ovidiu-florin: /sbin/ifconfig -a |
| 06:28.10 | mumpitze1 | ,v mate-core |
| 06:28.12 | judd | No package named 'mate-core' was found in i386. |
| 06:28.26 | mumpitze1 | master_j: are you actually running debian or something debian based? |
| 06:28.27 | ovidiu-florin | ifconfig only as root? |
| 06:28.30 | ovidiu-florin | why? |
| 06:28.44 | master_j | debian |
| 06:28.45 | mumpitze1 | ovidiu-florin: cause /sbin is not in path for normal users |
| 06:28.51 | mumpitze1 | master_j: then you can't have mate-core |
| 06:29.01 | master_j | i added the mate repo |
| 06:29.06 | ovidiu-florin | sudo command not found |
| 06:29.08 | moof2 | because it would allow a plain user the ability to change what has traditionally been a shared resource |
| 06:29.18 | mumpitze1 | mate is irrelevant to your problems cause it's not debian |
| 06:29.28 | mumpitze1 | ovidiu-florin: use su |
| 06:29.30 | master_j | yes. i gave a bad example |
| 06:29.31 | ovidiu-florin | I did |
| 06:29.40 | master_j | perhaps the command works |
| 06:29.43 | ovidiu-florin | thank you mumpitze1 |
| 06:29.47 | mumpitze1 | you wrote "sudo not found", not su |
| 06:30.05 | mumpitze1 | master_j: you cannot go back to wheezy btw |
| 06:30.13 | master_j | oh? |
| 06:30.39 | mumpitze1 | !downgrade |
| 06:30.40 | dpkg | Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
| 06:30.41 | master_j | doesn't seem to be ver easy |
| 06:30.50 | master_j | oh, i know it's not supported. |
| 06:30.55 | master_j | i'v managed before. |
| 06:31.04 | rryoumaa | i wanna go back to constantinople! no you can't go back to constantinople! it |
| 06:31.06 | master_j | well, maybe that's not entirely true |
| 06:31.10 | ovidiu-florin | I have to go no, But I'll be back later with more questions :D |
| 06:31.11 | ovidiu-florin | thank you |
| 06:31.18 | master_j | bye, world :) |
| 06:31.48 | master_j | it's fine. i can keep some packages in testing |
| 06:32.04 | mumpitze1 | !frankendebian |
| 06:32.05 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 06:32.14 | mumpitze1 | master_j: which is a very bad idea |
| 06:32.34 | master_j | ok. |
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| 06:33.04 | master_j | well in that case i'm having issues with testing. |
| 06:33.12 | master_j | but that's for another time |
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| 06:34.01 | master_j | i rather have stable, with a few selet packages from testing, than all testing, in most cases, but that's my preference, and i understand now it's not supported in this channel |
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| 06:35.04 | moof2 | what about the data? do you have any poems, songs, recipes, altered config files, stories, pictures, web pages on that machine? |
| 06:36.00 | uberdub | how do I get experimental packages in synaptics? |
| 06:36.07 | master_j | rather not get into it. |
| 06:36.08 | uberdub | want to tun 3.8.2 |
| 06:37.01 | moof2 | master_j, if you do not, then you could simply install clean... if you do, you could back up that data... is it all in /home? |
| 06:37.17 | master_j | but yes i have a ton of altered config files because i am trying to not reinstall distros all the time. |
| 06:37.25 | master_j | and i have it back up |
| 06:37.28 | master_j | and all that shit |
| 06:37.33 | master_j | pardon |
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| 06:38.00 | moof2 | well then... if that's the case, you could reinstall |
| 06:38.36 | moof2 | and then (assuming you know how to restore from the backup) you would just restore |
| 06:38.46 | master_j | that's boring lol |
| 06:39.13 | master_j | plus i need packages from testing. |
| 06:39.23 | master_j | i can't run a full stable system |
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| 06:39.42 | uberdub | how do I get packages from experimental? I already added it to source.list |
| 06:39.52 | master_j | debian has to support packages that aren't in the official repos. i mean, not officially support, but you must know users install other programs. |
| 06:39.56 | mumpitze1 | if you have to ask uberdub.... |
| 06:40.01 | first-time-here | hi |
| 06:40.02 | first-time-here | i'm trying to compile Samplicate and i'm not sure if i'm do it ok, this is what i get http://pastebin.com/NxmKadaH |
| 06:40.21 | moof2 | then you should try backporting what you need. installing the binary packages from testing onto your stable (has and) can completely break your system, and your packaging dependency database |
| 06:40.24 | mumpitze1 | master_j: then either use backports or run testing. mixing is a fools choice |
| 06:40.30 | uberdub | mumpitze1 well then it should be an easy answer |
| 06:40.35 | master_j | uberdub: if you're using synaptic, highlight the package and try ctrl-E or force-version. |
| 06:40.50 | uberdub | hmmm |
| 06:41.04 | master_j | aptitude has similar options |
| 06:41.04 | uberdub | ok, cause only 3.2 kernel shows up |
| 06:41.06 | first-time-here | someone can help me? |
| 06:41.12 | moof2 | probably shouldn't be suggesting people force packages, that can also break systems |
| 06:41.34 | mumpitze1 | first-time-here: don't ask to ask but state your actual support problem |
| 06:41.44 | master_j | uberdub: caution. that might break your system. |
| 06:42.03 | uberdub | ok |
| 06:42.07 | mumpitze1 | first-time-here: I don't see any problem in your paste |
| 06:42.23 | rozie | first-time-here: looks fine for me too |
| 06:42.35 | uberdub | I just want to upgrade my kernel, and wifi/bt modules to 3.8 |
| 06:42.44 | moof2 | pastebin.com doesn't get along with my browsers... gist.github.com is a better choice (no ads, doesn't slow my scrollbar to a crawl) |
| 06:42.51 | first-time-here | i alredy asked |
| 06:42.52 | first-time-here | i'm trying to compile Samplicate and i'm not sure if i'm do it ok, this is what i get http://pastebin.com/NxmKadaH |
| 06:42.56 | mumpitze1 | !pastebin |
| 06:42.57 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 06:43.05 | mumpitze1 | first-time-here: there is no error in your paste. what is the actual problem? |
| 06:43.23 | rwp | first-time-here, looks okay to me too |
| 06:43.36 | uberdub | so, what is correct way to do it? |
| 06:43.38 | master_j | first-time-here: now you have to make it. |
| 06:43.58 | first-time-here | i dont know what is the next step |
| 06:44.12 | rwp | first-time-here, Type in "make" and hit the Enter key. |
| 06:44.14 | master_j | uberdub: according to some here, you must upgrade your whole system to experimental -.- |
| 06:44.14 | mumpitze1 | first-time-here: read the documentation of the program you try to compile |
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| 06:44.39 | uberdub | I cant just run 3.8 in wheezy? |
| 06:44.45 | mumpitze1 | uberdub: please don't listen to master_j. he repeatedly gives bad advice has doesn't know what he writes about |
| 06:44.56 | mumpitze1 | master_j: you CANNOT upgrade the whole system to experimental |
| 06:45.07 | mumpitze1 | s/has/and/ |
| 06:45.11 | uberdub | i didnt think so |
| 06:45.22 | first-time-here | this is the installetion instraction |
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| 06:45.24 | uberdub | I tried in squeeze once |
| 06:45.25 | first-time-here | http://pastebin.com/7PZUZ0Qj |
| 06:45.27 | mumpitze1 | uberdub: you can |
| 06:45.41 | uberdub | whats correct procedure? |
| 06:45.46 | mumpitze1 | first-time-here: it clearly tells you what to do |
| 06:46.13 | mumpitze1 | first-time-here: you already did line 11. what comes after line 11? |
| 06:46.32 | first-time-here | but it's ok to type make now? or i neet to so more things.. |
| 06:46.56 | moof2 | should be, if the configure script ran to completion |
| 06:47.03 | rwp | first-time-here, Yes. Follow the instructions. |
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| 06:47.15 | first-time-here | i get the list wi the yes and now and i dont know what it's mean.. |
| 06:47.21 | mumpitze1 | first-time-here: do the instructions tell you to do more things? |
| 06:48.17 | first-time-here | i'm ask "what is all the big list here: http://pastebin.com/NxmKadaH " |
| 06:48.41 | first-time-here | it is need to be like that? |
| 06:48.43 | master_j | first-time-here: that's creating a config file. when that finished, you didn't get any errors, so it's ok to type 'make' now |
| 06:49.11 | jackbrown | how can i force a vmware machine to use a specific AUDIO IN/OUT ? |
| 06:49.40 | rozie | first-time-here: as you are first time here, please read and use http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 06:49.59 | first-time-here | but i get a severals "no" in the output.. it's ok? |
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| 06:50.14 | first-time-here | rozie: ^ |
| 06:50.28 | master_j | usually. otherwise it will say 'error' |
| 06:50.31 | moof2 | first-time-here, that's normal |
| 06:50.52 | first-time-here | ok, i type make now |
| 06:50.54 | rwp | first-time-here, Correct. Those "no"s are okay. "Are you cross compiling. no" Since you are not crosscompiling that is okay. And so on with the rest. |
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| 06:51.16 | moof2 | what it's trying to do, is find one of many ways to support particular functionality... if one is not present, it says no, and then tries anotyer |
| 06:51.21 | rozie | first-time-here: depends what you are trying to achieve. if it allows you to continue, they are non critical |
| 06:51.33 | uberdub | I understand it is something simple Im overlooking, but does anyone know the correct way to install 3.8 to wheezy? |
| 06:51.42 | freax | its so satisfying to get all yesses tho |
| 06:51.43 | freax | its like a test |
| 06:51.50 | uberdub | Ive added it to sources.list |
| 06:51.53 | freax | but its not essential to compile something |
| 06:52.06 | mumpitze1 | uberdub: look at the -t option of apt-get or download the package(s) from packages.debian.org |
| 06:52.12 | freax | unless it quits with an error |
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| 06:52.17 | rozie | uberdub: where do you get kernel from? there was 3.8 in experimental and it worked OK on Wheezy |
| 06:52.31 | rwp | I think of it more like a pilot's checklist. Run down the list and check every item one way or the other. |
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| 06:52.42 | uberdub | yeah im not exactly sure which packages i need |
| 06:53.05 | mumpitze1 | kernel image and headers. if it needs more: careful, can break your system |
| 06:53.09 | uberdub | rozie: preferrably the repos? |
| 06:53.14 | first-time-here | apter the "make" i get this output http://pastebin.com/HWLbF0P3 |
| 06:53.18 | first-time-here | it's ok? |
| 06:53.33 | mumpitze1 | first-time-here: read for the word "error". can you do that? |
| 06:53.38 | master_j | uberdub: sorry i misunderstood your question earlier |
| 06:53.47 | moof2 | no pastebin.com please |
| 06:54.13 | uberdub | and I guess my wifi/bt module firmware too |
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| 06:54.56 | first-time-here | moof2: what to use instad of pastebin.com? |
| 06:54.59 | uberdub | when i click on the link to the .dsc it just goes here http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-nonfree_0.38.dsc |
| 06:55.10 | mumpitze1 | !paste |
| 06:55.11 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 06:55.20 | rozie | uberdub: I just added experimental and used apt-pinning |
| 06:55.22 | rwp | first-time-here, The samplicator program seems like an advanced tool useful for a network expert. Because you are having such trouble compiling it I fear that it won't be useful for you. |
| 06:55.24 | master_j | first-time-here: look for the file, now, in the directory. you should have correctly built the program. |
| 06:55.41 | mumpitze1 | rwp: do you know the term "script kiddie"? |
| 06:56.12 | rwp | mumpitze1, I was trying to be nice and gently say that. |
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| 06:56.27 | mumpitze1 | uberdub: why are you clicking on a .dsc file? can you install dsc files? |
| 06:56.52 | rozie | first-time-here: you will probably break you system if you install this manually. look for .deb package |
| 06:56.58 | uberdub | iI want the tarballs? |
| 06:57.07 | uberdub | no .deb? |
| 06:57.10 | moof2 | first-time-here, well I don't like pastebin.com since it somehow slows down my scrolling and displays ads... hoebout http://gist.github.com |
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| 06:57.25 | mumpitze1 | uberdub: what do you want tarballs for? |
| 06:57.55 | moof2 | the .dsc files are used by dpkg-source |
| 06:57.57 | mumpitze1 | uberdub: you make it way too complicated. you put non-free in sources.list and install the firmware via apt-get as any other package |
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| 06:58.01 | uberdub | ok, where on packages.debian.org is there a download link? |
| 06:58.13 | mumpitze1 | uberdub: for which package |
| 06:58.19 | uberdub | it is in my sources.list |
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| 06:59.00 | mumpitze1 | then get it like any other package. |
| 06:59.03 | uberdub | 3.8 kernel/headers/firmware, and atheros firmware |
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| 06:59.31 | uberdub | mumpitze1, then why dont the packages show up in synaptic? |
| 06:59.50 | master_j | what is teh relevant line in your sources.list, uberdub |
| 07:00.09 | rwp | uberdub, Did you remember to apt-get update after changing the file? |
| 07:00.18 | mumpitze1 | uberdub: which ones? we have no crystalball, you need to tell us exactly how you look and what the problem is |
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| 07:00.23 | rwp | uberdub, Or whatever synaptic uses to update? |
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| 07:00.39 | master_j | it has a little refresh button |
| 07:00.42 | mumpitze1 | rwp: he is not using apt-get but can only work synaptic. if it hasn't a gui he can't use it apparently |
| 07:00.49 | master_j | reload* |
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| 07:01.23 | master_j | it's hard if you don't know the exact package name |
| 07:01.30 | uberdub | none of them have download links, isnt that stanrd page layout? |
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| 07:01.43 | uberdub | arent the links generally in the same place? |
| 07:01.45 | mumpitze1 | even synaptic can search. and apt-cache and aptitude are really great at searching |
| 07:02.07 | uberdub | yes, I ran apt-get update |
| 07:02.08 | mumpitze1 | they all have download links. scroll down. "all" "i388" "amd64". all download links |
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| 07:02.48 | uberdub | http://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-image-3.8-2-686-pae |
| 07:03.27 | uberdub | oh on "i386" |
| 07:03.29 | mumpitze1 | yes. it has a link "i386" at the bottom. under the heading "DOWNLOAD" |
| 07:03.55 | mumpitze1 | are you sure you run a 32bit system? |
| 07:04.06 | uberdub | dude |
| 07:04.10 | uberdub | ya |
| 07:04.50 | uberdub | that being the download link isnt real obvious to a first time browser on the site |
| 07:04.51 | master_j | apt-get install linux-image-3.8-2-686-pae doesn't work? |
| 07:04.58 | master_j | oh, nvm. |
| 07:05.06 | uberdub | ? |
| 07:05.14 | master_j | that wouldn't work |
| 07:05.18 | master_j | for stable |
| 07:06.44 | mumpitze1 | uberdub: you mean you are unable to read the word "download"? religious taboo? |
| 07:07.14 | uberdub | wtf are u on about? |
| 07:07.41 | master_j | lols |
| 07:08.03 | master_j | i hope that works for you, uber |
| 07:08.31 | uberdub | I didnt see the 1386 part my eyes kept being drawn to the right column for some reason. |
| 07:08.39 | uberdub | i386* |
| 07:08.52 | master_j | yeah, that site is an odd layout but you get used to it. it's really handy sometimes |
| 07:09.05 | dym | Hey everyone. Im looking to use varnish cache in a multi server environment and am wondering what would be the most suitable setup. I currently run a Wordpress based Website with 2 Webservers, serving identical content, accessed via DNS Round Robin and a third machine which holds the database. Options are: Install Varnish on a new vm outside the installation or install varnish on each webserver |
| 07:09.10 | uberdub | Yeah, handy for sure |
| 07:09.38 | master_j | a lot of places where you can dl direct from repos have an odd layout like that |
| 07:10.26 | uberdub | yeah it was throwing me off |
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| 07:10.41 | uberdub | too many links on one page |
| 07:10.46 | uberdub | understandably so |
| 07:11.08 | nachos | Hi, I'm trying to install the adobe reader debian package, by apt-get install ./adobereaderpackage.deb, but I get spammed with 3 console windows worth of error messages like: |
| 07:11.11 | nachos | E: Release 'AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i386linux_enu.deb' for 'alsaplayer-gtk' was not found |
| 07:11.13 | uberdub | the only firmware I can find is for 3.2 though |
| 07:11.14 | nachos | E: Release 'AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i386linux_enu.deb' for 'alsaplayer-interface' was not found |
| 07:11.17 | nachos | E: Release 'AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i386linux_enu.deb' for 'alsaplayer' was not found |
| 07:11.18 | nachos | What's the error telling me? |
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| 07:11.40 | jelly-home | nachos: it's telling you to run "apt-get -f install" |
| 07:11.44 | rwp | nachos, After doing dpkg -i package.deb then run "apt-get install -f" |
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| 07:12.44 | master_j | not this uberdub? http://packages.debian.org/sid/firmware-atheros |
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| 07:13.10 | nachos | whats dpkg -i do? |
| 07:13.23 | mumpitze1 | nachos: it installs a .deb package |
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| 07:13.54 | uberdub | master_j: that, and the 3.8 linux firmware |
| 07:14.01 | rwp | nachos, Sorry, you said apt-get install ./file.deb and I mentally translated that to dpkg -i ./file.deb. |
| 07:14.04 | rwp | Same thing. |
| 07:14.08 | mumpitze1 | uberdub: that does not exist |
| 07:14.15 | uberdub | oh |
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| 07:14.32 | mumpitze1 | uberdub: what do you need firmware for? |
| 07:14.35 | uberdub | so just get the image? |
| 07:14.45 | uberdub | my wifi/bt |
| 07:14.53 | uberdub | seems to be breaking my suspend |
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| 07:14.59 | mumpitze1 | try again: what EXACT hardware do you need firmware for? |
| 07:15.00 | uberdub | going upstream |
| 07:15.02 | rwp | Does apt-get install accept file names these days? |
| 07:15.18 | uberdub | atheros |
| 07:15.25 | mumpitze1 | rwp: no. apt-get is for downloading and conflict resolution only. you can tell it to get version x however |
| 07:15.26 | uberdub | ar9285 IIRC |
| 07:15.36 | mumpitze1 | filenames wouldn't make sense. |
| 07:15.47 | moof2 | userdub, can you run lspci -nn |
| 07:15.51 | rwp | mumpitze1, Then nachos couldn't have done what he said anyway. |
| 07:16.20 | moof2 | this will give you a multiline output, we want the line that represents the hardware that needs firmware |
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| 07:18.08 | rwp | mumpitze1, One of the Debian forks a coule of years ago modified apt-get to accept .deb files on the command line. Or maybe it was apt for rpm. I forget now. But often it would have been convenient to do it all in one step instead of adding apt-get -f install afterward. |
| 07:18.09 | uberdub | http://paste.debian.net/6458/ |
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| 07:22.27 | uberdub | do I need the headers for 3.8? |
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| 07:23.13 | nachos | thanks dpkg worked |
| 07:23.19 | nachos | how do i also install the dependencies |
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| 07:25.19 | rwp | nachos, With: apt-get -f install |
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| 07:34.12 | uberdub | http://paste.debian.net/6460/ |
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| 07:40.33 | nachos | uh sorry i cant get this to work, i do dpkg -i on adobe reader then i do apt-get -f -a=i386 adobe.deb and it still spits out all the errors |
| 07:42.08 | mumpitze1 | nachos: you don't read what people tell you to do. "apt-get -f -a=i386 adobe.deb" cannot work in any shape or form. |
| 07:42.22 | mumpitze1 | nachos: paste the output of your apt-get runs in paste.debian.net |
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| 07:43.09 | mumpitze1 | ,depends initramfs-tools jessie |
| 07:43.11 | judd | Package initramfs-tools in jessie/i386 -- depends: klibc-utils (>= 2.0-1~), cpio, kmod | module-init-tools, udev. |
| 07:43.12 | uberdub | dpkg returns errors when I try to install 3.8 |
| 07:43.12 | dpkg | uberdub: bugger all, i dunno |
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| 07:43.32 | uberdub | ? |
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| 07:43.51 | mumpitze1 | uberdub: so install the package it complains about |
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| 07:44.53 | mumpitze1 | uberdub: you will need to get it from jessie to satisfy the version dependency |
| 07:45.01 | uberdub | yeah |
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| 07:45.09 | uberdub | on it |
| 07:45.37 | uberdub | im just hoping I dont end up all night searching for deps, and installing them |
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| 07:46.27 | mumpitze1 | you don't. see my ,depends line above to judd? |
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| 07:46.52 | uberdub | yeah I see it on the page too |
| 07:47.08 | uberdub | We'll see if I have them all... |
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| 07:48.11 | mumpitze1 | no need. just install it |
| 07:48.28 | uberdub | oh just enter than line? |
| 07:48.32 | uberdub | that* |
| 07:49.39 | uberdub | going ok so far |
| 07:50.53 | uberdub | sweet, generated grub.cfg |
| 07:51.04 | uberdub | now just the atheros |
| 07:51.24 | mumpitze1 | uberdub: dpkg -l |grep firmware |
| 07:51.36 | mumpitze1 | also, you might want to install kernel headers |
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| 07:52.52 | uberdub | http://paste.debian.net/6461/ |
| 07:53.03 | uberdub | I couldnt find the headers..only 3.2 |
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| 07:55.08 | uberdub | this should do it right? http://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-headers-3.8-2-686-pae |
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| 07:56.40 | master_j | i thought the linux kernel now had built-in support of atheros |
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| 07:57.32 | jelly-home | uberdub: newer kernels often come with newer firmware as well, so if you know you need firmware and are getting a kenrel from sid or testing, check versions of relevant firmware-* packages in sid or testing as well. |
| 07:57.43 | jelly-home | ,v firmware-atheros |
| 07:57.44 | judd | Package: firmware-atheros on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 0.28+squeeze1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1~bpo60+1; wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; jessie/non-free: 0.38; sid/non-free: 0.38 |
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| 07:58.53 | uberdub | yeah I got .38 downloaded |
| 07:59.54 | moof2 | was it special? |
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| 08:00.23 | uberdub | moof2: ? |
| 08:00.26 | mumpitze1 | only on saturday nights |
| 08:00.53 | moof2 | there;'s something called a .38 special |
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| 08:03.04 | uberdub | meh, .38 weak sauce |
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| 08:04.23 | uberdub | bare good for putting a man 6 feet in a hole |
| 08:04.27 | uberdub | barely* |
| 08:04.29 | uberdub | lol |
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| 08:05.16 | uberdub | .40 S&W FTW |
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| 08:07.51 | uberdub | Although, for a saturnight special...a revolver of any kind works just fine. |
| 08:08.01 | uberdub | saturday night* |
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| 08:38.25 | bitg | what would cause .bash_history to not exist in root home directory? |
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| 08:40.38 | blubberdiblub | bitg, root never having used bash or always killed uncleanly |
| 08:41.07 | blubberdiblub | bitg, or /root on a read only mount point |
| 08:41.13 | bitg | hmmm |
| 08:41.39 | blubberdiblub | bitg, or bash configured not to write a history file |
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| 08:41.57 | bitg | what is a way i can view history of other user logged in as root? |
| 08:42.06 | bitg | with no file in existence? |
| 08:42.12 | bitg | check config first i guess |
| 08:42.36 | bitg | i know root uses bash, it's default shell |
| 08:42.41 | blubberdiblub | bitg, you can't. the history file is only written when bash exits (cleanly) |
| 08:42.50 | bitg | oh |
| 08:42.59 | bitg | so "exit" command? |
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| 08:43.34 | bitg | i have another debian server that logs everything in the .bash_history |
| 08:43.46 | blubberdiblub | bitg, yes, the root user whose history you want to read needs to exit, otherwise her session won't be saved to the history file |
| 08:43.56 | bitg | the other server pretty similar the file doesn't exist. history command only gives my session info |
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| 08:44.12 | bitg | Ok |
| 08:44.19 | bitg | so doesn't write until exiting? |
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| 08:44.28 | bitg | Is there a way around that? |
| 08:44.33 | bitg | or to view in realtime? |
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| 08:44.58 | blubberdiblub | bitg, that's right, it's only saved when bash exits. i'm not sure if it can be configured differently |
| 08:45.37 | bitg | blubberdiblub: thanks that helps a bit, at least gives me some direction |
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| 08:46.35 | krofna | Does anyone know of a good hex editor and hex diff tool? I tried Bless from repos but its bugged |
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| 08:48.33 | blubberdiblub | krofna, if it's not additions or removals you're diffing, just changed bytes, you can employ "diff" and "hd" for diffing hexdumps: diff -youroptions <(hd /path/to/file1) <(hd /path/to/file2) |
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| 09:11.13 | alusion | Can someone help me remotely connect back to my home network |
| 09:11.40 | alusion | I have my internal network behind a router which is connected to my modem and I forwarded port 22 on either |
| 09:11.43 | alusion | both |
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| 09:13.10 | alusion | anyone |
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| 09:13.39 | mumpitze1 | and your actual debian related problem is? |
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| 09:25.56 | willem | hi i want to change my window theme in gnome where can i find window themes ? |
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| 09:57.57 | stefanqn2 | h apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-amd64 results in ttp://paste.debian.net/6467/. Any ideas? |
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| 10:13.27 | qiy | hi, anyone can help with some apache proxy? |
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| 10:13.39 | qiy | i just want a host to redirect to http://users.sosdg.org/~qiyong/lxr/source/ |
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| 10:14.17 | cusco | redirect? |
| 10:14.22 | cusco | not the same as proxy |
| 10:15.01 | qiy | so i can visit http://foo.com/lxr |
| 10:15.03 | qiy | or http://foo.com/~qiyong |
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| 10:15.16 | qiy | if you run a server, you may help me |
| 10:15.30 | qiy | so i can read the linux source at home |
| 10:15.37 | qiy | i'm the owner of that lxr site |
| 10:15.44 | qiy | but i can't reach it from home |
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| 10:18.11 | Koma | quy the proxy idea is to reach a machine in a private subnet so that you can use only one front server. |
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| 10:18.39 | Koma | You need something like "meta redirect" or iframe |
| 10:19.17 | qiy | i can't get the site of users.sosdg.org |
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| 11:05.18 | boudiccas | whenever i start 'pan' it rapidly takes over the computer which becomes sluggish and rnureosivenen. how do i start pan please such that i remain in control and not the computer please? |
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| 11:05.48 | smlb | Hi there, someone tryied Debian GNU/Hurd? |
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| 11:07.28 | musca | !tell smlb about hurd |
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| 11:08.13 | smlb | musca: yep, i know it. But all I want to know is about hardware support, nothing else. |
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| 11:09.24 | musca | smlb: did you ask in #debian-hurd on irc.oftc.net ? |
| 11:10.01 | smlb | musca: nope, I'll ask there. Thanks |
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| 11:11.01 | ovidiu-florin | Hello world :D |
| 11:12.02 | ovidiu-florin | on http://wiki.debian.org/Xfce I have two ways to make xfce start automatically: one for startx and one for slim boot. what is the difference? What is slim boot |
| 11:12.05 | ovidiu-florin | ? |
| 11:12.19 | smlb | slim is a login manager |
| 11:12.30 | smlb | a graphical interface for login |
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| 11:12.38 | smlb | i prefer startx |
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| 11:22.04 | ovidiu-florin | smlb: why? |
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| 11:23.01 | smlb | ovidiu-florin: because is fast and I haven't to configure slim/gdm or others login manager |
| 11:23.19 | rozie | most login managers have "auto login" feature |
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| 11:23.33 | rozie | not very safe... |
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| 11:24.05 | ovidiu-florin | aha |
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| 11:24.40 | ovidiu-florin | in the wiki it says to ass something to ~/.xinitrc to startx automatically at boot |
| 11:24.51 | ovidiu-florin | ~/.xinitrc does not exist |
| 11:25.13 | ovidiu-florin | If I create it, will debian know to read it, or do I have to configure that? |
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| 11:26.16 | smlb | cp /etc/skel/.xinitrc ~ |
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| 11:26.32 | smlb | so you have a sample file |
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| 11:26.46 | rozie | I'd use login manager |
| 11:27.21 | ovidiu-florin | rozie: why? |
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| 11:31.01 | rozie | ovidiu-florin: many possibilities, easy change, minimal overhead |
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| 11:37.45 | ovidiu-florin | rozie: could you be please a bit more specific? |
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| 11:38.17 | rozie | about? |
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| 11:39.24 | rozie | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LightDM#Enabling_Autologin |
| 11:39.41 | rozie | two lines in config file |
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| 11:39.54 | rozie | configurable timeout |
| 11:39.59 | ovidiu-florin | so, what will exec ck-launch-session startxfce4, do? |
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| 11:42.38 | Infiltrator | I take it that there are not yet any backports for wheezy? (Getting 404.) |
| 11:42.46 | Nurbs | I am getting an error (https://gist.github.com/luzat/5648770) when "debtags update" is run through anacron. I think this is caused by another cron.daily job which runs "aptitude update" at the same time (running both at the same time reproduces this behavior on the shell). |
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| 11:43.21 | Nurbs | It seems that anacron is being started with "-s" in /etc/init.d/anacron, which should serialize jobs. But it doesn't...? |
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| 11:53.21 | EvilRick | Hi everyone.. I'm having trouble with grub installing in the installer. It doesn't seem to work if I use RAID+Encryption+LVM |
| 11:53.31 | EvilRick | I get a grub error right at the end of the installation |
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| 11:53.54 | mumpitze1 | is your /boot on an encrypted partition? |
| 11:54.27 | EvilRick | nope |
| 11:54.39 | EvilRick | Its raided tho |
| 11:54.42 | mumpitze1 | then what is the error? |
| 11:54.57 | EvilRick | 256M partition on raid 1 |
| 11:55.43 | EvilRick | Executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed. This is a fatal error. |
| 11:57.48 | EvilRick | same setup works fine if I don't raid the disks |
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| 11:58.28 | Infiltrator | EvilRick: Pastebin the whole output, please. |
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| 11:59.06 | EvilRick | firstly its not like I can copy paste from the installer. Its not a VM its a physical machine |
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| 11:59.29 | EvilRick | secondly the error is presented in the installer nurses menu system |
| 11:59.36 | EvilRick | its very terse and not very descriptive |
| 11:59.55 | EvilRick | I checked the console output on alt-f4 and its pretty much the same thing |
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| 12:01.22 | Infiltrator | EvilRick: Try running it manually, then. One of the alt-Fs will give you a terminal. |
| 12:01.29 | EvilRick | is it possible that its an unsupported layout? |
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| 12:01.39 | EvilRick | what do I run manually |
| 12:01.44 | EvilRick | isially I would run grub |
| 12:01.51 | Infiltrator | If it's raided, it should just be seen as a single device. |
| 12:02.03 | Infiltrator | grub-install /dev/sda should be it. |
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| 12:02.16 | EvilRick | but the installer honey has grub-installer and if I try run grub-installer /dev/sda it moans about /dev/sda/proc not being available |
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| 12:02.25 | EvilRick | and asks me if /dev/sda is mounted |
| 12:02.55 | EvilRick | yeah as far as I can tell there is no grub-install.. only grub-installer |
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| 12:04.41 | mumpitze1 | !reinstall grub |
| 12:04.42 | dpkg | See http://wiki.debian.org/GrubRecover http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s07.html . Boot a CD like <grml>, mount your disk read/write, (mount boot partition into your / partition if applicable,) mount -o bind /dev/ /your/root/dev; chroot /your/root; mount -t proc none /proc; grub-install /dev/foo (you may need to edit /etc/mtab and/or /boot/grub/device.map). Also ask me about <fixmbr> <rescue mode>. |
| 12:05.08 | mumpitze1 | there must be a grub-install on your /target/ even in the installer |
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| 12:10.59 | ryx | hello, I have the impression that the kernel is leaking ram; I suspect graphics (radeon). Kernel is 3.8-2-686-pae, debian wheezy/testing |
| 12:11.22 | Nik05 | go to #debian-testing on OFTC |
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| 12:11.41 | Nik05 | sorry i mean #debian-next |
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| 12:12.22 | ryx | well, honestly it also happened on old testing (though with kernel 3.7), but I'll have a look, thx |
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| 12:17.35 | Woet | ryx: wheezy is stable, not testing. which OS are you running? |
| 12:17.43 | Woet | or did you mean both? |
| 12:17.54 | Nik05 | its not jessie/testing |
| 12:17.58 | Nik05 | now* |
| 12:18.26 | ryx | Woet: I mean both |
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| 12:33.36 | mumpitze1 | ryx: debian wheezy doesn't run 3.8. it's a non stable kernel. why can't you run 3.2? |
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| 12:35.46 | ryx | mumpitze1: failing everything I will try that. Right now I don't have anything anymore that requires 3.8 but I used to. But now, I think I'll concentrate on getting a good screencapture for lkml or something. |
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| 12:55.38 | l_r | hello |
| 12:55.55 | l_r | is it true that the nwe version of debian can rub both 32bit and 64bit applications? |
| 12:56.01 | l_r | *run |
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| 12:57.38 | asturel | ? it was always possible |
| 12:57.48 | asturel | u need ia32-libs or whatever |
| 12:57.51 | abrotman | l_r: yes |
| 12:57.56 | abrotman | asturel: no |
| 12:57.59 | asturel | ? |
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| 12:58.07 | abrotman | dpkg: tell l_r about multiarch |
| 12:58.22 | l_r | so there are different packages for 32bit and 64bit shared libs? |
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| 12:58.36 | asturel | he's talking about packages? |
| 12:58.37 | abrotman | dpkg: tell asturel about ia32-libs |
| 12:58.42 | abrotman | asturel: i'm aware |
| 12:59.02 | asturel | ah |
| 12:59.06 | abrotman | l_r: well, yes |
| 12:59.13 | l_r | oh good |
| 12:59.21 | abrotman | l_r: the wiki talks about it a bit .. |
| 13:00.04 | l_r | multiarch only supports x86? |
| 13:00.26 | abrotman | l_r: well, i don't think your SPARC CPU could run an ARM binary without emulation ? |
| 13:00.33 | l_r | right |
| 13:00.35 | l_r | well |
| 13:00.44 | l_r | it's not possible |
| 13:00.56 | l_r | without emulation |
| 13:01.04 | l_r | qemu would make it possible |
| 13:01.15 | abrotman | l_r: the goal was to provide Debian the ability to have different architectures on the same physical host .. so ia64 could probably also run i386 code, and ppc64 could possibly run ppc32 code ? |
| 13:01.21 | abrotman | l_r: right, qemu is emulation |
| 13:01.29 | jelly-home | binfmt and qemu-arm |
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| 13:09.12 | abrotman | jelly-home: always you with the smart alec answer :) |
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| 13:09.30 | l_r | abrotman, how does debian handle the conflicts when you have both 32bit and 64bit apps installed? |
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| 13:09.59 | abrotman | what conflict? |
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| 13:10.04 | l_r | i am talking about the executables |
| 13:10.16 | project2501a | does amixer have a configuration file? |
| 13:10.16 | l_r | let's say /usr/bin/myapp |
| 13:10.28 | abrotman | l_r: if it's yourapp, are you going to have both ? |
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| 13:10.58 | dvs | l_r: it depends on the architecture of myapp |
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| 13:11.39 | ExeciN | I want to install Wheezy on a FireWire drive with a GPT structure and it should be EFI boot-loaded. How should I proceed? |
| 13:11.49 | jelly-home | abrotman: useful answers are overrated |
| 13:11.59 | abrotman | jelly-home: especially here .. |
| 13:12.02 | l_r | abrotman, let's say i want to build debs for both i386 and amd64 , this new version of debian would be ideal, as it would let me test both the verions |
| 13:12.22 | jelly-home | l_r: best to do that in separate chroots |
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| 13:12.40 | abrotman | would also use chroots for that |
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| 13:13.05 | jelly-home | so if you have an amd64 kernel, there's no need to use multiarch at all |
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| 13:22.02 | ExeciN | I want to install Wheezy on a FireWire drive with a GPT structure and it should be EFI boot-loaded. If I use the standard iso, as soon as I choose an option in GRUB some disk activity happens for a while and then I'm facing a black screen forever. |
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| 13:25.08 | abrotman | ExeciN: sounds like more of a video card issue? |
| 13:25.46 | ExeciN | abrotman: I have 2 nvidia GPUs |
| 13:25.56 | freax | SLI causes issues |
| 13:26.02 | freax | remove one card and try it again? |
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| 13:26.22 | ExeciN | freax: They are not in SLI array, I just have 2 |
| 13:26.56 | ExeciN | GPUs are not removable in my system, I am on a MacBook Pro |
| 13:26.56 | freax | i would still remove one |
| 13:27.01 | freax | ah |
| 13:27.05 | freax | that would be difficult then |
| 13:27.41 | abrotman | would still remove them |
| 13:27.47 | abrotman | ExeciN: did you install the binary driver nonsense? |
| 13:27.48 | freax | lol |
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| 13:27.53 | ExeciN | I did it a couple of months before, I just messed something on my disk and made it unbootable |
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| 13:28.01 | ExeciN | abrotman: what? |
| 13:28.13 | abrotman | you know .. the binary non-free nvidia driver |
| 13:29.35 | ExeciN | abrotman: no I messed something with a bad partitioning tool and I thought I would install it again instead of recovering it |
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| 13:30.49 | ExeciN | abrotman: nvidia's non-free driver tool worked like a charm before (but that was done after the installation, I can't even use the installer) |
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| 13:31.30 | ExeciN | I should have documented my successful attempt just for future reference (like now) |
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| 13:36.04 | cadfael | Q: My root filesys is backed up regularly - only the paranoid survive. Until now, I've done that from a liveCD, but if I backup after first booting debian into recovery-mode, then would that backup still backup be usable? |
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| 13:42.44 | psichas | do you know good private search engine ? |
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| 13:43.13 | ovidiu-florin | psichas: gogo duck or something like that |
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| 13:45.55 | psichas | gogoduck not bad |
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| 13:46.21 | ExeciN | isn't it duckduckgo? |
| 13:46.44 | psichas | yea yea i know :) |
| 13:47.20 | riako | hello it's possible to install wheezy on hp proliant ML 110 ? |
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| 13:48.41 | Dunams | Getting hit by a SYN flood of between 60k to 1 Million PPS, syn cookies are enabled, though seems it's not enough, traffic incoming only at 69.0 Mb/s at the time the 1M attack occured, anyone has a suggestion of what can I do to block that attack? |
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| 13:49.35 | freax | get in contact with your server host? |
| 13:49.42 | freax | see if they cannot block it upstream |
| 13:49.42 | qman__ | yeah, call your service provider |
| 13:50.01 | Dunams | OVH are assholes, telling me I need to deal with DDoS attacks on my own |
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| 13:50.14 | freax | bah |
| 13:50.20 | freax | change IP's of the server |
| 13:50.26 | freax | or ask in #web |
| 13:50.31 | ExeciN | see if they all come from a certain country |
| 13:50.36 | freax | that too |
| 13:50.48 | Dunams | how would changing the IP help, the attacker can just get the new one |
| 13:50.49 | qman__ | it still won't do much good to block it at your server, you need to cut it off upstream |
| 13:51.23 | Dunams | here's the MRTG of the attack |
| 13:51.23 | Dunams | http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/5892/pckts.png |
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| 13:51.33 | Dunams | and this is the actual traffic |
| 13:51.34 | Dunams | http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/6829/trfc.png |
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| 13:51.43 | Dunams | i'm wondering how does 1M PPS only does 70Mb/s |
| 13:51.44 | abrotman | Dunams: either your hoster solves it, or you get a new hoster, or you deal with it .. you can't do anything |
| 13:52.03 | ExeciN | if you block a country you will block non-attacking connections as well but if you do it for a while, the attacker will find a new host |
| 13:52.19 | oo_miguel | is there some nice and easy way to show the partions and unpartioned space of my harddisks? I find the output of fdisk -l very unconvenient to read this |
| 13:52.21 | abrotman | riako: have you tried it yet? did you have a problem? |
| 13:52.31 | abrotman | oo_miguel: cfdisk maybe? |
| 13:52.41 | Dunams | it's a DDoS so most likely hits coming from multiple countries |
| 13:52.51 | Dunams | i'll check it out though |
| 13:52.53 | abrotman | Dunams: you've already got your answer |
| 13:53.02 | riako | no i want to statrt but i ask before |
| 13:53.11 | freax | ask in #web, they will have more experience with this |
| 13:53.13 | Dunams | but will blocking a country using IPtables have any effect? the traffic still gets to the server |
| 13:53.20 | riako | if i'ts possible |
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| 13:53.25 | abrotman | #web will tell him it's offtopic |
| 13:53.31 | qman__ | it won't help much |
| 13:53.35 | oo_miguel | abrotman: Ill give it a try, thanx |
| 13:53.35 | freax | eh not necesserially |
| 13:53.37 | abrotman | Dunams: i've already told you .. you can't fix this |
| 13:53.40 | qman__ | it will prevent your server from responding but it won't stop it |
| 13:53.43 | freax | they are pretty lax there at the moment, talkinga bout the new xbox |
| 13:53.50 | qman__ | these types of attacks have to be addressed upstream, at the firewall |
| 13:53.54 | qman__ | which is why you need your service provider |
| 13:53.59 | ExeciN | riako: if you don't have any data you want to keep just experiment with it |
| 13:55.09 | riako | ok thank but tell me what version i download ? |
| 13:55.11 | riako | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.0.0/ |
| 13:55.13 | Dunams | now since i'm not sure which service or port it's hitting, how can I find out? does linux keep logs of that? |
| 13:55.46 | abrotman | ... |
| 13:55.48 | riako | amd64 or i386 |
| 13:55.56 | abrotman | riako: it's your system, you tell us |
| 13:55.59 | Dunams | Apache webmin and SSH services are all blocked using IPtables, restricted IP access |
| 13:56.05 | Dunams | so I'm guessing he wasn't attacking them? |
| 13:56.10 | abrotman | Dunams: last time, you cannot solve this, call your hoster |
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| 13:56.12 | riako | hp prolian ML 110 |
| 13:56.30 | Dunams | but I need to find the IPs of the bots hitting the server before I contact them |
| 13:56.33 | Dunams | to give them something to block |
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| 13:56.46 | qman__ | Dunams, they can send anything they want at you, it doesn't matter what your iptables accepts, it still gets to your server |
| 13:57.02 | qman__ | it just doesn't get in, dropped at the door |
| 13:57.05 | abrotman | Dunams: no, you don't .. tell your provider to do the work, they can do this more quickly than yoyu |
| 13:57.10 | qman__ | it still uses up your pipe |
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| 13:57.58 | qman__ | and, as previously mentioned, this is not something you can do anything about at your server, it needs to be dealt with upstream |
| 13:58.06 | qman__ | if your provider won't help, get another provider or deal |
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| 13:58.48 | Dunams | any suggestion for a provider for that matter? lol |
| 13:59.22 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Dunams about hosting |
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| 13:59.55 | freax | Dunams: http://www.bahnhof.net |
| 14:00.08 | Dunams | thanks, i'll take a look |
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| 14:00.46 | darthanubis | synaptic does not properly edit sources.list anymore. Is there a way to correct this to restore default behavior? |
| 14:01.34 | darthanubis | what controls how and why synaptic edits the sources.list? |
| 14:01.56 | darthanubis | I got synaptic to show the correct sources.list |
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| 14:02.16 | abrotman | darthanubis: you could just use vi like a sane person? |
| 14:02.33 | darthanubis | but if I try from synaptic to change anything, the server,or repos, synaptic mangles the sources.list |
| 14:02.48 | darthanubis | abrotman, that is not the question though |
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| 14:02.53 | darthanubis | thanks for replying |
| 14:03.12 | darthanubis | wondering if this is a bug? |
| 14:03.21 | themill | darthanubis: perhaps you could pastebin the sources.list before and after and describe exactly what it is you asked synaptic to do |
| 14:03.28 | darthanubis | sure |
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| 14:04.43 | darthanubis | http://pastebin.com/xSANn4Ua |
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| 14:06.40 | darthanubis | synaptic, settings, repos, if I say uncheck sources, or anything altered in synaptic, completely hoses the sources.list, and the "download from" field changes to Main Server,instead of US server. |
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| 14:07.21 | darthanubis | This all worked after fresh install, I was ssable to have synaptic choose best server, or do anything. Without mangling the sources.list file. |
| 14:07.52 | darthanubis | Yes, I can edit the file by hand. But would like for synaptic, to work perfectly in stable debian. |
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| 14:08.54 | darthanubis | If you click the box to change from main to us server, and try to recheck the boxes, the server selection reverts back to Main |
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| 14:09.14 | abrotman | darthanubis: you shouldn't use "main server" anyway |
| 14:09.21 | darthanubis | this happened when I changed it to main in synaptic, now ii is stuck |
| 14:09.28 | darthanubis | abrotman, I know |
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| 14:09.39 | abrotman | if you believe it's a bug, file a bug |
| 14:09.48 | darthanubis | I don;t know that yet |
| 14:09.55 | darthanubis | hence the questions |
| 14:10.03 | Administrator_ | hi\ |
| 14:10.05 | darthanubis | sounds like something easy I am overlooking |
| 14:10.23 | darthanubis | so I asked those who may have seen something like this before |
| 14:10.26 | Administrator_ | i am new to debian packaging |
| 14:10.34 | Administrator_ | i need help |
| 14:10.35 | franco00 | I am revisioning a translation (from en to it) and wanted to check the original file ( wml://News/weekly/2013/11/index.wml ), but that is not yet available on the mail CVS repo. Where is it? (if it is available to the public, that is) |
| 14:10.45 | Administrator_ | can any body help me out |
| 14:10.58 | petn-randall | dpkg: tell Administrator_ -about adk |
| 14:10.59 | themill | dpkg: tell Administrator_ about n |
| 14:11.01 | petn-randall | dpkg: tell Administrator_ -about ask |
| 14:11.13 | themill | abhijit: /msg dpkg nmg |
| 14:11.19 | petn-randall | dpkg: tell Administrator_ -about ask |
| 14:11.29 | themill | franco00: #debian-www over on irc.oftc.net would be a better place to ask |
| 14:11.37 | franco00 | thanks themill |
| 14:11.59 | darthanubis | http://pastebin.com/WRSd6byF |
| 14:11.59 | Guest94702 | is there any good tutorial |
| 14:12.17 | Guest94702 | to study how to create deb packagging |
| 14:12.18 | darthanubis | synaptic mangles the source and leaves it like this |
| 14:12.30 | abrotman | darthanubis: so file a bug? |
| 14:13.32 | abrotman | though it looks okay to me |
| 14:13.33 | darthanubis | after I give someone else a chance to be helpful sure |
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| 14:16.09 | jimcooncat | what the he!!, gone a few days and now my squeeze box has 29 updates. Does oldstable mean it's not stable anymore? Why so many? |
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| 14:16.55 | themill | subscribes jimcooncat to debian-security-announce |
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| 14:18.42 | petn-randall | installs apt-listchanges on jimcooncat's machine. |
| 14:19.11 | jimcooncat | subscribes too but didn't have his feedreader on |
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| 14:19.43 | jimcooncat | petn-randall: I'll check it out, thanks |
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| 14:21.58 | jimcooncat | There are a lot of x updates here. What do I do if it borks my x? I remember many years ago when on ubuntu I lost my x in an update, and had a hard time because I wasn't used to lynx to find out how to fix it. |
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| 14:22.28 | jimcooncat | is there a fall-back command for apt/aptitude/whatever? |
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| 14:23.12 | jimcooncat | I remember talk back then about creating a "failsafe x" |
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| 14:24.32 | Nik05 | jimcooncat what do you mean? |
| 14:24.57 | Nik05 | downgrading isnt supported |
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| 14:25.43 | jimcooncat | Nik05: say I install the pending updates, and x stops working for me, how do get my computer to recover? |
| 14:26.04 | petn-randall | jimcooncat: In stark contrast to Ubuntu, Debian only has bugfix/security patches passed on into stable. |
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| 14:27.32 | jimcooncat | petn-randall: I understand. I also know there are a lot of people that make a living using Debian so failure for them is not an option; except they all run servers with no x on them... |
| 14:28.07 | jimcooncat | perhaps they all back up with partimage or something |
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| 14:40.45 | inter | ciao a tutti |
| 14:40.50 | inter | !list |
| 14:40.50 | dpkg | inter: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-7.0.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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| 14:42.52 | sharky | tutti fruity |
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| 14:43.57 | ExeciN | I am trying to boot the unofficial non-free iso including firmware from USB/FireWire but it seems to only work with optical disks. What could the problem be? |
| 14:44.47 | sharky | ExeciN, how did you create the bootable usb? |
| 14:45.55 | ExeciN | cat disk.iso > /dev/disk1s2 I also tried with unetbootin but I got the same results |
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| 14:47.16 | sharky | ExeciN, hm I am not sure about cat, you can try # dd if=/your/iso of=/your/usb/device bs=4M |
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| 14:47.52 | sharky | you can put also & at the end to put the command in background |
| 14:48.29 | sharky | ExeciN, also make sure your BIOS settings are set up to enable external USB boot |
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| 14:49.27 | ExeciN | sharky: I am using rEFInd instead. It gives me the option to boot the installer or to boot to GRUB (and boot the installer from GRUB) |
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| 14:51.50 | sharky | ExeciN, I haven't used it so I can't say anything about that |
| 14:51.58 | ExeciN | I am getting a dd: bs: illegal numeric value error |
| 14:52.34 | sharky | hm, try bs=4194304 |
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| 14:54.58 | sharky | ExeciN, does rEFInd give you the ability to boot from external usbs |
| 14:55.59 | ExeciN | sharky: yes. I do it all the time. I had a working debian wheezy installation in a firewire drive before (this is what I am trying to do again) |
| 14:56.16 | ExeciN | I just need the installer working first |
| 14:56.18 | sharky | because GRUB does not to this |
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| 14:56.56 | ExeciN | rEFInd is an EFI (and fakeBIOS) bootloader |
| 14:57.00 | sharky | but do you make some changes in the config or what |
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| 14:57.55 | ExeciN | sharky: no it just finds whats bootable and gives you the options (you can modify the command if you want but I had it working with the defaults) |
| 14:57.59 | sharky | yup I know what EFI is and actually it caused many boot problems I read and heard |
| 14:58.28 | ExeciN | Restarting. |
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| 14:58.34 | sharky | lets see |
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| 15:02.27 | sharky | ExeciN, and? |
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| 15:04.36 | ExeciN | It didn't work |
| 15:05.15 | sharky | do you have other machine that you can check the usb |
| 15:05.36 | ExeciN | I really don't want to connect an optical drive just for the installation. I have to remove the bottom cover and connect it using a slimline sata extension |
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| 15:06.51 | ExeciN | yes checking it now |
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| 15:07.42 | sharky | I am really not sure about this rEFInd, normally you set up your BIOS then for example on ASUS you while booting you press ESC on Lenove F12 for the BIOS pop up menu |
| 15:07.54 | sharky | then you choose your external usb and boots |
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| 15:08.30 | sharky | also you need the 1st disk of the debian *.iso |
| 15:09.20 | dury | hi there channel :-) |
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| 15:09.51 | sharky | channel answers - hello |
| 15:10.21 | dury | I'm trying to do this => http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=89706 |
| 15:10.27 | ExeciN | The USB stick boots fine on another machine |
| 15:10.42 | sharky | ExeciN, then its your EFI man |
| 15:10.51 | sharky | turn it off and boot normally |
| 15:11.18 | ExeciN | Can I feed the installer image from the network? |
| 15:11.36 | dury | I've got an error when I trying to save gedit ~/.config/autostart/xcreensaver.desktop |
| 15:11.37 | ExeciN | sharky: normally for me is using EFI (I am on a MacBook Pro) |
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| 15:13.01 | sharky | ExeciN, I am not so sure about the network, there is network install, but you still need to boot small *.iso |
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| 15:13.39 | dury | it says Could not find the file /.config/autostart/xcreensaver.desktop. |
| 15:14.01 | sharky | ExeciN, what do you actually want to do, to install Debian as primary on your mac or as dual boot or so |
| 15:14.32 | dury | says also Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again. |
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| 15:14.42 | ExeciN | sharky: Install it on an external firewire drive. No messing with the internal drive |
| 15:15.02 | dury | what should be the right location then? |
| 15:15.05 | mtn | dury: saving the file or opening the file? |
| 15:15.08 | sharky | dury, maybe the purge command removed it for you |
| 15:15.34 | dury | I'm trying to save it |
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| 15:16.04 | mtn | dury: if the file doesn't exist it would just save it as a new file |
| 15:16.19 | sharky | ExeciN, I see, well install it from other machine, if you don't find solution about the mac machine |
| 15:16.28 | mtn | dury: unless you don't have that autostart folder |
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| 15:16.54 | ExeciN | sharky: If I install it on another machine I cant use GRUB-EFI |
| 15:17.53 | dury | mtn: I'm trying to install xscreensaver in wheezy |
| 15:18.08 | sharky | ExeciN, I see, good situation, I think I don't know what to suggest |
| 15:18.17 | mtn | dury: are you working as root? does that folder exist in your home folder? |
| 15:19.31 | dury | mtn: I'm working as root |
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| 15:20.03 | mtn | dury: shouldn't you be doing the gedit editing in your home folder? |
| 15:20.15 | mtn | dury: and not as root? |
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| 15:26.29 | wjtaylor | when I create a new user in sqeeze. They don't have a main group. Is this ok? |
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| 15:31.40 | sharky | wjtaylor, you can specify that in your command # useradd -m -g your_main_group -G audio,lp,optical,storage,video,wheel,games,power,scanner -s /bin/bash your_new_user_name |
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| 15:43.08 | dury | mtn: are you there? |
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| 15:45.02 | mtn | dury: still here! |
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| 15:48.58 | mtn | dury: so, did you get it or not? can't stand the suspense :P |
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| 15:50.09 | dury | mtn: http://paste.debian.net/6506/ |
| 15:50.36 | dury | mtn: not yet |
| 15:50.54 | mtn | dury: looks like you need to stop the other screensaver. |
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| 15:51.41 | ctx144k | hi |
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| 15:52.15 | dury | mtn: yeah that's right.... I'm not able to do that... would u help me, please? |
| 15:52.27 | ctx144k | anyone know why debian7 (from kde-image) issent installed "virtuoso-minimal" by default? |
| 15:52.44 | ctx144k | without that package ill get an error after kde-login |
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| 15:52.57 | mtn | dury: can't at this time, I need to take off. good luck. |
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| 15:53.31 | dury | mtn: all right never mind... take care |
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| 15:56.24 | sharky | dury, if you have installed your new xscreensaver and removed the gnome-screensaver with that apt-get remove command then you can either restart or kill that process |
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| 15:57.01 | sharky | dury, for example ps aux | grep -i screensaver will show you the process |
| 15:57.36 | sharky | then you can stop it with kill |
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| 16:02.42 | Dunams | I'm having an issue setting up MRTG |
| 16:03.13 | Dunams | I'm having an issue setting up MRTG |
| 16:03.22 | Dunams | getting the following error regarding the CPU/RAM tracking |
| 16:03.27 | Dunams | Unknown SNMP var ssCpuRawUser.0 |
| 16:03.27 | Dunams | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:03.42 | Dunams | though the mibs are inplace and SNMP reads them fine it seems |
| 16:04.14 | Dunams | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:04.14 | Dunams | UCD-SNMP-MIB::ssCpuRawSystem.0 = Counter32: 13532623 |
| 16:04.21 | Dunams | so I can't figure out what the issue is |
| 16:04.31 | Dunams | googled it like 30 times came up with nothing that solved it |
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| 16:05.21 | wald0 | my friend has a laptop with windows 8, im trying to run debian in live mode but seems like its unable to boot it, after to search a bit in internet i have read an ubuntu page saying that windows has made something that you are simply not able to run any other operating system that is not windows 8, so wtf ?? i can't change windows by debian ? |
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| 16:06.31 | Dunams | walk0, windows 8 is an operation system, it can't block you from using other operation systems |
| 16:06.33 | sharky | wald0, it is probably EFI in the bios, you can enter you bios turn that option off and boot your live debian |
| 16:07.06 | Dunams | so I guess no one here has any idea what my issue is all about? :/ |
| 16:07.08 | sharky | wald0, also called UEFI |
| 16:07.11 | wald0 | Dunams: seems like they moved the bios to the os itself, so if you remove the os the computer doesn't boot, and it also decides what to boot and what not |
| 16:07.24 | wald0 | sharky: oh, so simple ? |
| 16:07.27 | Dunams | bios is a part of your motherboard |
| 16:07.32 | Dunams | they can't "move the bios to the os" |
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| 16:08.49 | sharky | wald0, yup it is security feature so that you are not able to boot unauthorized OS on the protected machine, it is a key in the bios that allows to boot only signed OSes |
| 16:09.08 | sharky | wald0, but when you have access to your bios, you can turn that option off |
| 16:09.26 | sharky | wald0, and run whatever you like, its your machine ;) |
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| 16:16.55 | dury | mtn, did something :-) |
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| 16:20.47 | dury | bbl |
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| 16:22.07 | splig | hi there!! when i add a new user, it has a default content in the home directory. how can i customize this content? i knew it but i'm not able to find it again |
| 16:22.17 | no_gravity | Hello! Can I put multiple different debian installers on one usb stick? By putting each in one partition and then setting the bootable flag in one of them via gparted or so? |
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| 16:24.27 | master_j | yes |
| 16:24.56 | master_j | there's a way to do it, i forget the exact steps |
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| 16:27.21 | sharky | master_j, are you sure, he will need also some kind of boot manager installed on that use to be able to choose the different installers from the different partitions, but I am not sure that is possible |
| 16:27.39 | master_j | i've seen pages explaining how to do it |
| 16:27.46 | master_j | but i've never done it myself |
| 16:28.48 | petn-randall | no_gravity: I think you can have several ISOs on a FAT32 partition, and use grub to loop mount and boot them. You loose the bootloader of the image, though. |
| 16:29.29 | sharky | well no_gravity I *think* you will need at least bootable usb, and some kind of boot manager to point to different partitions, and then setup your installers on that partiotions or so |
| 16:29.55 | no_gravity | petn-randall: why is grub needed? what about the bootable flag of the partitions? doesnt it work anymore these days? |
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| 16:30.42 | no_gravity | sharky: strange, you can only boot from a whole usb stick, not from a partition? is it the same with harddisks? what about the bootable flag that partitions have? |
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| 16:31.30 | petn-randall | splig: Check out the man page to the command. adduser takes its default config for new users from /etc/skel/. |
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| 16:32.17 | sharky | no_gravity, it is the same, the bootable flag enables the *drive to boot, if then the boot manager points to different installation on different partitions, in your case installers |
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| 16:32.48 | petn-randall | no_gravity: What about it? Unless you have UEFI, you still need a bootloader. In the other cases the 'bootable' flag just gives a hint to the bootloader. |
| 16:32.54 | no_gravity | sharky: the *drive? isnt the computer looking at the disk, choosing the bootable partition and booting from it? |
| 16:33.07 | petn-randall | no_gravity: That's not how booting works. |
| 16:33.15 | no_gravity | petn-randall: hmm.. ok. i will try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604 |
| 16:33.37 | no_gravity | petn-randall: ok, so the computer *always* boots from the mbr of the disk? |
| 16:33.51 | petn-randall | no_gravity: On legacy bios systems, yes. |
| 16:33.56 | sharky | no_gravity, with *drive I meant hard-drive, usb-drive ..., the boot manager points to the installation |
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| 16:35.06 | sharky | no_gravity, yes always from MBR of the first drive and then goes on |
| 16:35.17 | petn-randall | no_gravity: On (U)EFI systems, there's more logic built into it, it checks a FAT32 partition marked for system boot, that contains boot images in PE format that it simply execs. |
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| 16:36.21 | no_gravity | sharky, petn-randall. Ok. Looks like making one big usb-stick with the .iso files of different distris and then adding set isofile="/boot/isos/ubuntu.iso" to grub.cfg might do the trick... |
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| 16:37.12 | sharky | no_gravity, it _might_ :) |
| 16:37.59 | petn-randall | no_gravity: Right, though the way that disk is made is that it only boot in legacy bios mode, there's no pure UEFI support there. This isn't that much of a problem because even today still most UEFI implementation support legacy boot. |
| 16:38.53 | no_gravity | i wonder as what i should format the stick. ext2,ext3,ext4? |
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| 16:39.24 | no_gravity | and should i give it partitions or simply do makefs.ext2 /dev/sdb? |
| 16:39.52 | petn-randall | no_gravity: if you don't make any partitions, there'll be no place for grub to install to, right? |
| 16:40.12 | no_gravity | petn-randall: yeah, you might be right |
| 16:41.03 | petn-randall | no_gravity: Try ext4, though I remember that it only worked with FAT32 for me. Don't remember why, though :/ |
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| 16:41.52 | sharky | yup some bios's need vfat |
| 16:42.46 | no_gravity | then i better use fat32... |
| 16:43.11 | petn-randall | sharky: For what? |
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| 16:43.25 | EvilRick | ok.. quick update.. it seems its an issue if I make the boot and the LVM raid partitions both primary then grub won't install. I made the RAID partitions that host the LVM(md1) logical and I didn't have a grub installation error at the end. |
| 16:43.28 | sharky | petn-randall, to detect usb as boot device |
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| 16:44.52 | petn-randall | EvilRick: What error did you get? Usually you just need to leave enough space at the beginning of the device so grub can install there. |
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| 16:45.46 | petn-randall | EvilRick: gparted and friends usually leave the first 2048 512-byte sectors free (=1 MB) for the boot loader to comfortably install there. |
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| 16:46.11 | EvilRick | ok thats good to know.. |
| 16:46.28 | sharky | no_gravity, i think the procedure will be like that 1) partition your usb, 2,3,4 partiotions /dev/sdb1-4 or so 2) install your iso with dd to /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdb2 .. 3) install grub on /dev/sdb and also make /dev/sdb bootable |
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| 16:50.30 | no_gravity | sharky: with which command would you install grub? |
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| 16:52.46 | sharky | no_gravity, that is a bit tricky I am not sure if # grub-install /dev/sdb will work |
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| 16:54.20 | sharky | no_gravity, hm or actually you can leave your first partition as boot partiotion and make it bootable |
| 16:54.27 | no_gravity | sharky: dont you need to provide grub where its root/ directory is? and then it will create a boot/ dir in that root/ dir? |
| 16:54.50 | sharky | then mount it, make /boot directory there and install grub there see: http://www.lowlevel.eu/wiki/GRUB_Installation_auf_einem_USB-Stick |
| 16:54.57 | no_gravity | sharky: currently i try with one big partition and tell grub to use .iso files. |
| 16:55.03 | sharky | no_gravity, also you can search a bit about that |
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| 16:57.31 | sharky | no_gravity, I think you need to make the first partiotion a boot one with /boot directory and grub installed there and then every iso in its own partition with dd |
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| 17:01.05 | sharky | no_gravity, I have to go out, good luck with the thing, hope will work |
| 17:01.07 | no_gravity | sharky: im trying it without putting the isos into partitions right now. |
| 17:01.11 | no_gravity | sharky: thank you! |
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| 17:01.31 | sharky | no_gravity, ok, if it works that way, its all good |
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| 17:04.43 | wald0 | sharky: thanks, by other side i dont want to remove the original OS, for "just in case" purposes and tests, if i disable that EFI option in the bios windows will continue booting ? |
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| 17:05.19 | deezed | hey guys! I'm trying to backup an ubuntu's home folder of the other ubuntu distro that I have installed here, but if I try to copy it with nautilus, I receive a msg saying "can't copy special file". Do u know what can I do to copy everything properly? |
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| 17:06.06 | vsmatck2 | I'm running wheezy. I installed gedit packages from sarge. I'm trying to pin them to stop them from upgrading. The contents of my /etc/apt/preferences is this http://pastie.org/7958335 |
| 17:06.11 | sharky | wald0, you can turn it on after that again, but it should boot without it too |
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| 17:06.18 | vsmatck2 | Oops. I mean squeeze, not sarge. |
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| 17:08.44 | no_gravity | deezed: does it tell you which file? |
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| 17:10.29 | deezed | no_gravity: yes "gnome-system-monitor.(myfoldername).3603244547" |
| 17:11.20 | no_gravity | deezed: where do you copy the home folder to? |
| 17:11.33 | deezed | to an external hd |
| 17:12.10 | no_gravity | deezed: maybe some nautilus magic. i would try rsync. |
| 17:12.26 | deezed | is it a backup software? |
| 17:12.58 | no_gravity | deezed: it syncs directories. just type "man rsync" in a terminal. |
| 17:13.11 | deezed | ok |
| 17:13.25 | deezed | no_gravity: thanks very much |
| 17:13.39 | no_gravity | deezed: "rsync /your/old/home your/new/home" might do the trick. |
| 17:14.08 | deezed | ok!! |
| 17:14.18 | no_gravity | deezed: delete the partly copied your/new/home first. |
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| 17:14.34 | no_gravity | deezed: rsync will not delete files by default. only if you provide the --delete flag. |
| 17:14.45 | deezed | uhmm ok! |
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| 17:16.00 | no_gravity | deezed: also you might need the -r flag for recursion. |
| 17:16.38 | niteye | i use a whole bunch of options to preserve owner, group, perms, modificationtime etc |
| 17:17.02 | no_gravity | deezed: the -a flag might be a shorthand for what you are trying to accomplish. |
| 17:18.17 | deezed | uhm, |
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| 17:19.05 | deezed | no_gravity: so it would be something like "rsync -r -a /my/old/home /my/new/home" ? |
| 17:19.43 | no_gravity | deezed: -r is included in -a so you can ommit it. |
| 17:20.34 | deezed | no_gravity: and maybe -v to see what is doing? |
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| 17:21.26 | no_gravity | deezed: rsync -a /my/old/home/ /my/new/home |
| 17:21.44 | no_gravity | deezed: note the slash after the old home ^ |
| 17:22.03 | no_gravity | deezed: without it, it will create /my/new/home/home |
| 17:22.09 | deezed | ok |
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| 17:22.28 | deezed | no_gravity: what about an -H option? should I use it as well? |
| 17:22.40 | no_gravity | deezed: yes, you can include -v. |
| 17:23.07 | no_gravity | deezed: i doubt you have hard-links in you home folder. |
| 17:23.21 | deezed | no_gravity: ok |
| 17:23.24 | deezed | I'll try it |
| 17:24.06 | deezed | it seems to be running fine |
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| 17:25.12 | deezed | no_gravity: so when I reinstall my ubuntu and try to paste this home folder, do I have to paste it in a special way as well? |
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| 17:25.36 | no_gravity | deezed: "paste it"? |
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| 17:26.52 | mooglenorph | I'm sorry, I've probably asked something like this here before, but: is there anything in the repository that can extract bibliographic metadata from PDF files? |
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| 17:27.09 | mooglenorph | PDF files of research papers. So, paper title author names etc. |
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| 17:27.20 | deezed | no_gravity: yes, actually I'm doing this backup to reinstall my ubuntu, which I kind of broke, and when I reinstall it, i intent to paste my old home folder to mantain my configurations. |
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| 17:27.46 | rocketmagnet | hi all, i've troubles with the new stable release - where on earth are all the settings gone ? for example how to change the skin of the window manager |
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| 17:29.09 | Gokee2 | mooglenorph, pdfinfo shows meta data for PDF's |
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| 17:30.45 | Gokee2 | mooglenorph, I think I got that from the poppler-utils package |
| 17:30.51 | no_gravity | deezed: im not sure. i dont use my home folder much. if i would and i would be in your situatuation, i would put the home folder in its own partition and then choose that partition as /home during installation. |
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| 17:31.10 | no_gravity | deezed: since you are installing ubuntu, #ubuntu might be a better place to discuss this. |
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| 17:31.50 | deezed | no_gravity: yes, thats true! But thanks a lot to help me to copy the folder properly! |
| 17:31.53 | rocketmagnet | i've an error here: my wireless connection is setup an is working but i still get no connection... what can be the problem ??? |
| 17:32.47 | no_gravity | When I install Debian 7 on my machine, it tells me its missing "iwlwifi-5000-5.ucode" and some similar files. Can I put these files on the same usb-stick that I put the debian 7 installer on? |
| 17:33.05 | no_gravity | rocketmagnet: its working and not working? |
| 17:33.13 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:33.43 | no_gravity | AlexLikeRock: i think imgur.com works. |
| 17:34.12 | no_gravity | AlexLikeRock: to report it here on irc. or do you mean on some bug tracker? |
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| 17:34.44 | Gokee2 | deezed, Also there is no need to "paste" anything. Just rsync that homedir to its final destination with the same command you are using to backup. You might need to check UID's on your new system and give yourself the same one as you had on your last system. |
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| 17:36.02 | deezed | Gokee2: uhm thats nice! And how to check UID? |
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| 17:37.23 | gogu | clear |
| 17:37.27 | AlexLikeRock | i wana send a bug on "reportbug wizar" |
| 17:37.35 | AlexLikeRock | no_gravity, |
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| 17:37.52 | no_gravity | AlexLikeRock: i dont know. im not into bug reporting. |
| 17:37.57 | tech1anubis | has anyone had synaptic mangle their sources.list? |
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| 17:37.59 | Gokee2 | deezed, This will do it: "sudo cat /etc/passwd |grep username" The numbers separated by : are username and group |
| 17:38.48 | Gokee2 | deezed, You will know its different if once you get the home dir in place on the new system you "ls -lah" (or whatever ls flags you prefer) the dir and its all owned by some number or other user then yourself |
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| 17:39.14 | deezed | Gokee2: ok, then during the installation I have to give this numbers to be the new UID, is that it? |
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| 17:39.48 | LtL | Gokee2: cat /etc/passwd doesnt require root |
| 17:39.49 | Gokee2 | deezed, At that point you can change the permissions on the files or change your users UID. I have no idea if the Ubuntu install lets your set UID but I somewhat doubt it |
| 17:39.51 | no_gravity | Gokee2: wouldnt it be easier to do "chown -R username:username /home/username" after the rsync? |
| 17:40.16 | Gokee2 | LtL, Your right, my bad :) |
| 17:40.38 | deezed | Gokee2: ok, anyway I can also do it after installation, right? |
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| 17:41.09 | Gokee2 | no_gravity, Perhaps, depends if he wants to ever move the home dir back to the old install, but I guess its gonna be gone so might as well change permissions |
| 17:41.11 | tech1anubis | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=84741&p=498841#p498841 |
| 17:41.15 | tech1anubis | All I could find |
| 17:41.26 | Gokee2 | deezed, Yes, after install is when I would work on it |
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| 17:41.34 | tech1anubis | another thread on LMDE's forum for the same thing |
| 17:41.49 | tjiggi_fo | no_gravity, http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi I remember I had to install iwlwifi firmware to get it to work. |
| 17:41.57 | deezed | Gokee2: ok!! thanks a lot again!! |
| 17:42.01 | Gokee2 | deezed, If you have a simple one user setup Ubuntu might just assign you the same UID on the new system |
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| 17:44.09 | deezed | Gokee2: no, I actually have 2. But I find it out when I finish to configure my new ubuntu |
| 17:44.42 | deezed | Gokee2: I mean, if I have the home backup, shoudn't be a big deal to configure it later, right? |
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| 17:44.56 | no_gravity | tjiggi_fo: and i can point debian to that .deb file during installation? |
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| 17:46.28 | tjiggi_fo | no_gravity, no idea. I had debian installed and just had to install firmware to get wifi working. |
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| 17:46.49 | Gokee2 | deezed, Naw, its easy, just use the command no_gravity gave a but ago to change file perms or change the UID's of the users to match what they use to be |
| 17:46.49 | no_gravity | tjiggi_fo: i will probably do it that way too. using an old rusty cat5 cable. |
| 17:46.50 | tech1anubis | synaptic is fantastic. does anyone actually use it here? |
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| 17:47.11 | master_j | yes |
| 17:47.14 | Miesco | I want to install debian, my processor is ARM Cortex-A15, what one do I get? |
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| 17:47.22 | no_gravity | tech1anubis: no. does it have any benefits over apt-get? |
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| 17:48.20 | mumpitze1 | Miesco: armel |
| 17:48.28 | tech1anubis | no_gravity: yes |
| 17:48.39 | krababbel | Hi, I'd like to install Debian on a Chromebook, and I can either create a chroot or dual-boot it seems. What would be the benefit of doing the dual-boot, since switching to the chroot wouldn't require a reboot? Also I'd like to install Virtualbox in that Debian-install too, if possible. |
| 17:48.51 | mumpitze1 | Miesco: sorry, armhf for ARMv7 |
| 17:49.09 | mumpitze1 | !tell Miesco about armel vs armhf |
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| 17:49.18 | Miesco | mumpitze1: There isn't armel, there's hard float abi and eabi |
| 17:49.26 | Gokee2 | tech1anubis, What benefits does synaptic have over apt-get? |
| 17:49.31 | mumpitze1 | hard float then. your cortex can do it |
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| 17:49.42 | apm1 | Gokee2, its has a gui interface |
| 17:49.59 | Gokee2 | apm1, I would call that a disadvantage... |
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| 17:50.08 | apm1 | Gokee2, none then |
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| 17:50.17 | Miesco | mumpitze1: So get Hard Float ABI ARM? |
| 17:50.40 | mumpitze1 | yes |
| 17:50.50 | apm1 | mumpitze1, what will an cortex A8 be armelor armhf ? |
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| 17:51.06 | apm1 | * armel or armhf |
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| 17:51.18 | awc737 | hey my desktop UI (except background) just disapeared with gnome 3 |
| 17:51.27 | awc737 | logging in to Gnome Classic still works though |
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| 17:52.04 | JonathonDoe2 | Hey guys, I thought debian used rc.local and added a bunch of simple commands I usually manually typed in after every boot thinking it would work. Now, it doesn't. |
| 17:52.30 | JonathonDoe2 | It's a headless box, I don't have a monitor I can use with it, and I can't SSH into it to undo the damage. |
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| 17:52.52 | no_gravity | I have a rather complicated Grub question: To install Grub for an encrypted installation, you have to chroot into the boot partition of that installation, set up the encrypted partitions and then install grub. But what when you have multiple encrypted installations? Everytime I try, all other installations are broken afterwards. |
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| 17:54.10 | tech1anubis | Gokee2: was not looking for a debate. Looking for answers please. Surely we can discuss that in #debian-offtopic |
| 17:54.17 | tech1anubis | thanks |
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| 17:55.38 | JonathonDoe2 | Hey guys, I thought debian used rc.local and added a bunch of simple commands I usually manually typed in after every boot thinking it would work. Now, it doesn't. It's a headless box, I don't have a monitor I can use with it, and I can't SSH into it to undo the damage. |
| 17:55.45 | ahuemer | how do i list packages that are in wheezy but not squeeze? |
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| 17:56.20 | no_gravity | JonathonDoe2: why cant you ssh into it? |
| 17:57.03 | JonathonDoe2 | no_gravity: Somehow I just can't .. it could be something to do with the commands I threw into to start hostapd up. |
| 17:57.31 | JonathonDoe2 | SSH to it times out, I can't ping it either. |
| 17:57.35 | no_gravity | JonathonDoe2: ah, ok. i never really understood what is the right place to put commands that should be executed after a boot. |
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| 17:58.04 | JonathonDoe2 | I just didn't want to write an init script. Seems I should have anyways lol. |
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| 18:01.58 | blubberdiblub | JonathonDoe2, hostapd already comes with an init script. there's no need to fix something that's not broken ;) |
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| 18:02.42 | JonathonDoe2 | blubberdiblub: I know, however after applying neccesary changes to the NAT table, I've always had to restart it |
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| 18:08.06 | blubberdiblub | armin, it probably will. but you can use dpkg-divert to rename the real ruby1.8 to some name like ruby1.8.local and put a symlink pointing from ruby1.8 to ruby1.9 in its place. that way the package management will respect your choice |
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| 18:10.43 | mucha | hi! ive got one of debian distros on my notebook. when i close cover it goes in suspend/sleep mode. where can i change it? |
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| 18:11.20 | mucha | or maybe there is a command that will prevent going in this mode temporarily, for one close? it would be best |
| 18:11.32 | mucha | script* |
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| 18:16.12 | Jeudi | kjournald appears to be acting alone to wake my drive from sleep. I'm clueless as to why it's doing this (though I understand the purpose and nature of journaling). Could someone advise me? |
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| 18:24.29 | Gokee2 | tech1anubis: I wanted to know if something was better rather then simply being a gui wrapper... I have not used it in years so I thought they might have done something cool. For example aptitude tries to be more intelligent then apt-get as well as adding a curses interface. |
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| 18:28.21 | tech1anubis | Gokee2: I just wanted to know why it was behaving this way. Google has alomst got me to a fix though. I think it is python-software-properties |
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| 18:28.36 | tech1anubis | removing /var/lib/dpkg/lock and running dpkg -configure -a |
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| 18:28.49 | tech1anubis | I'm going to try that when I get to my box |
| 18:28.50 | jdale | hello |
| 18:29.02 | tech1anubis | I should have left it home and shell in from work:( |
| 18:29.07 | jdale | Does Debian have a guy isntaller? |
| 18:29.15 | tech1anubis | gui |
| 18:29.16 | tech1anubis | yes |
| 18:29.23 | jdale | I'm on wheezy live iso |
| 18:29.27 | tech1anubis | yes |
| 18:29.46 | tech1anubis | the live iso should have an install link on the desktop? |
| 18:29.51 | jdale | yep |
| 18:29.55 | jdale | Im installing init on a vm |
| 18:29.58 | jdale | its isntalling |
| 18:30.02 | jdale | much better than Arch Linux |
| 18:30.04 | jdale | kept crashing |
| 18:30.09 | jdale | is Debian rolling release? |
| 18:30.10 | Gokee2 | tech1anubis: Oh? Its not letting you install stuff? |
| 18:30.46 | Slydder | https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/+bug/1183710 |
| 18:31.37 | jdale | testing it with 8gb hd space |
| 18:31.41 | jdale | will Debian handle that? |
| 18:31.46 | spacebison | yeo' |
| 18:31.49 | jdale | ok |
| 18:31.50 | spacebison | yep |
| 18:31.51 | tech1anubis | Gokee2: its fine so long as I don't make ANY changes via synaptic. I will always be able to install,by hand. But synaptic, should not be mangling the sources.list regardless of how I choose to install applications |
| 18:32.00 | jdale | how lightweight is wheezy? |
| 18:32.12 | tech1anubis | I'm sure I'll fix it eventually, I just uhh, thought I could get a hand |
| 18:32.34 | tech1anubis | I'm not doing the ubuntu thing again, so I will fix this. Once I find out how. |
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| 18:33.05 | Gokee2 | tech1anubis: Hah, its messing with your sources file? You could always chattr your sources list :) |
| 18:33.11 | spacebison | jdale: It's fairly full featured. But for me on a SSD it boots up in 5 seconds. |
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| 18:33.39 | jdale | oh |
| 18:34.03 | Gokee2 | tech1anubis: But ya... sorry I can't be of any real help as I don't know a thing about how synaptic manages sources. |
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| 18:35.45 | Jeudi | Is it possible to move the journal on a live, booted etx3 filesystem? |
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| 18:36.23 | Jeudi | ^ext3^ |
| 18:36.48 | Miesco | I've been googling a guide to install debian on the Samsung Chromebook, cant seem to find one that uses USB |
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| 18:37.12 | master_j | tech1anubis: are you having issues with changing repos in synaptic too? |
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| 18:37.35 | jdale | Help I'm stuck at the step called configure package manager? |
| 18:37.56 | jdale | oh wait its working again |
| 18:38.22 | mumpitze1 | Miesco: what do they use? network booting? |
| 18:38.55 | Miesco | mumpitze1: The BIOS? |
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| 18:41.52 | mumpitze1 | ARM machines have no BIOS |
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| 18:42.16 | mumpitze1 | and a PC doesn't boot via BIOS either but via optical drive, usb stick or network for installing debian purposes |
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| 18:47.10 | master_j | hi, i thought i used to be able to do this with tasksel, but is there a way to revert back to a base-install? aka remove all programs i don't need for a base system |
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| 18:47.46 | dareth | Considered reinstalling? |
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| 18:48.48 | master_j | or maybe i was thinking dselect |
| 18:49.08 | mumpitze1 | Miesco: tasksel simply installs a predefined list of packages. Let it show the package lists for each and then remove them with apt-get |
| 18:49.15 | master_j | yeah, i am really considering it. but this guy keeps telling me it's easier to do it this way, then stops answering my questions :P |
| 18:50.04 | master_j | but, also, doing it this way is 'funner' aka learning is fun |
| 18:50.27 | dareth | You don't want to run a GUI? |
| 18:50.34 | master_j | eventually. |
| 18:50.55 | master_j | but i want to remove & start from scratch again. |
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| 18:51.23 | dareth | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:54.22 | dareth | If you like tinkering a lot you might want to separate your home partition from your root. Then you can reinstall Ans just reattach your home partition and user data. |
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| 18:55.39 | Octavius | hey i thought debian 7 comes with brcmsmac drivers for broadcom included in the kernel but when i try to install it i cant configure it |
| 18:56.32 | Octavius | if i chose configure network later i get nothing for my wlan in ifconfig |
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| 18:57.13 | mumpitze1 | Octavius: the firmware for broadcom is non-free |
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| 18:58.17 | tech1anubis | master_j: yes |
| 18:58.46 | tech1anubis | master_j: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/synaptic-softare-center-and-softwaare-sources-willl-not-show-repositories-846972/ |
| 18:59.00 | tech1anubis | master_j: try the last answer see if that works? |
| 18:59.10 | tech1anubis | Then I can try it on lunch |
| 18:59.11 | tech1anubis | thanks |
| 18:59.15 | Octavius | it is free there are several drivers for broadcom |
| 18:59.22 | Octavius | it works out of the box on ubuntu for a long time |
| 18:59.25 | master_j | ok |
| 19:00.03 | tech1anubis | So, I'm going to edit the sources.list back to a good config, then run the cmds from the last post. THEN open synaptic, and test. Hopefully it does not bork the file |
| 19:00.45 | tech1anubis | I'm lovign my Debian Wheezy, can't let this little thing inconvience me |
| 19:00.56 | master_j | you're runing wheezy? |
| 19:00.58 | tech1anubis | the info regarding this is all over the web |
| 19:00.59 | tech1anubis | yes |
| 19:01.01 | master_j | i thought it was because i upgraded. |
| 19:01.04 | master_j | shoot. |
| 19:01.23 | tech1anubis | master_j: nah |
| 19:01.25 | master_j | well that fix didn't work, even when i fixed the syntax in that command. |
| 19:01.56 | tech1anubis | make sure all instances of "stable" say "wheezy" |
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| 19:05.08 | master_j | that didn't fix it either |
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| 19:05.54 | msl09 | Hi how can I find what /dev directory is associated to a usb stick? |
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| 19:06.26 | master_j | df |
| 19:06.31 | xand | msl09: it's not a directory, but type dmesg after you plug it in |
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| 19:07.19 | mumpitze1 | or use fdisk -l as root |
| 19:07.24 | Miesco_ | I went to instlal armfh netinst immage and I get this page: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-armhf/current/images/ |
| 19:08.28 | msl09 | xand: it doesn't seem to show that... |
| 19:08.36 | msl09 | http://paste.debian.net/6539/ |
| 19:08.41 | mumpitze1 | Miesco: http://debian.2.n7.nabble.com/Debian-Wheezy-rootfs-for-Chromebook-td2886435.html for example |
| 19:08.59 | xand | msl09: try it again, it can take a few seconds or so... |
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| 19:09.27 | msl09 | xand, its still the same |
| 19:10.19 | mumpitze1 | msl09: http://paste.debian.net/6541/ is what you should see |
| 19:10.57 | elkingrey | When I installed Debian last weekend there came a point where it said it was erasing the disk, but it never progressed past 0%. I waited about 15 minutes and then finally just hit cancel and the rest of the install went along smoothly, and so far everything appears to be fine and dandy. Also, a friend of mine waited an hour for it to get to 4% before he finally canceled that step and it also finished the install smoothly. What's that all about? Did we |
| 19:10.58 | elkingrey | miss a critical step jeopardizing the safety of our FDE install? |
| 19:11.06 | xand | msl09: could the usb stick be faulty? |
| 19:11.32 | Miesco_ | What partition should my usb stick be to boot debian with it? |
| 19:11.49 | xand | msl09: it should be like what mumpitze1 pasted |
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| 19:12.46 | mumpitze1 | elkingrey: it's normal. to erase the disk takes hours. it needs to write every single sector on the harddisk. you don't need to do that, only if you want to create an encrypted volume or what to test the disk for defects |
| 19:12.48 | msl09 | mumpitze1, xand I don't think its a problem with my usb stick, the external hard drive has the same problem. |
| 19:12.55 | xand | oh... |
| 19:13.11 | Miesco_ | mumpitze1: Cant I just put debian on usb stick and boot it on the chromebook? |
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| 19:13.23 | mumpitze1 | elkingrey: and yes, for FDE a full erase or rather writing truly random garbage is needed for security reasons |
| 19:13.41 | mumpitze1 | Miesco_: afaik no. but I don't have a chromebook |
| 19:14.10 | mumpitze1 | elkingrey: and yes that random garbage can take hours to days. |
| 19:14.12 | elkingrey | mumpitzel: When I used Fedora or Ubuntu they had an option to fill the whole disk with FDE. Are you saying that my FDE isn't as secure as it could be because I didn't do that step? |
| 19:14.12 | xand | msl09: try it could be the usb_storage kernel module isn't loaded; try: lsmod | grep usb_storage |
| 19:14.15 | xand | does it show anything? |
| 19:14.26 | elkingrey | ugg |
| 19:14.43 | mumpitze1 | elkingrey: if you don't write randomness on it it' snot as secure, no matter if fedora or ubuntu. it has to be written with random crap |
| 19:14.46 | msl09 | mumpitze1, xand I think I **** my kernel when I started sharing the same /boot partition with ubuntu |
| 19:15.03 | xand | msl09: umm.... yes... that doesn't sound wise. |
| 19:15.09 | msl09 | I reinstalled the package, I hope that works, |
| 19:15.12 | mumpitze1 | msl09: unlikely. totally different kernel filenames. grub however could be fucked |
| 19:15.22 | mumpitze1 | msl09: yes we can type fuck, shit, piss in here |
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| 19:15.56 | msl09 | I'll try rebooting |
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| 19:16.27 | elkingrey | mumpitzel: I figured it didn't matter what's written on it if it's encrypted. |
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| 19:19.07 | Darkchaos | Hello Guys, I am having an issue with "Debian" on my macbook. The Wifi keeps disconnecting and for a reconnect it takes several tries (mostly timeout on auth) |
| 19:19.24 | Darkchaos | Some guy said to me that it's simply because broadcom wifi chips "suck" |
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| 19:20.08 | msl09 | mumpitze1, xand It worked \o/ |
| 19:23.00 | mumpitze1 | Darkchaos: they do. which driver do you use for it currently? and which broadcom chip is it? |
| 19:23.32 | msl09 | I don't know how jockey(or the related application) chooses which kernels to install the proprietary drivers but I think it used my debian kernel. |
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| 19:25.23 | Darkchaos | where can I check the chipset? It reports "ieee80211 no probe response from AP after 500ms". Don't know which drirver however iwconfig says IEEE 802.11bg |
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| 19:26.43 | peterrooney | Darkchaos: lspci |
| 19:26.50 | Darkchaos | Broadcom BCM4331 (rev 02) |
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| 19:31.02 | LtL | dpkg: bcm4331 |
| 19:31.03 | dpkg | The Broadcom BCM4331 is a PCIe 802.11n wireless LAN chip using a HT PHY (PCI ID 14e4:4331). Supported by the <b43> driver as of Linux 3.2. It is not supported by the <brcmsmac> or <wl> drivers. |
| 19:32.31 | LtL | Darkchaos: does that above dpkg message help? |
| 19:33.09 | Darkchaos | ehm. That says it should run as for linux 3.2? |
| 19:33.16 | Darkchaos | b43 seems loaded |
| 19:33.41 | Darkchaos | lsmod > bcm5974 and bcma 32840 1 b43 |
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| 19:33.46 | LtL | Darkchaos: yeah, are you using squeeze? use the backported 3.2 kernel if so |
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| 19:35.26 | Darkchaos | It is based on Wheezy |
| 19:35.45 | Darkchaos | so running 3.7-trunk-amd64 |
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| 19:36.15 | mumpitze1 | Darkchaos: what is the actual name of the distro you run? |
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| 19:37.05 | Darkchaos | it's kali, but since they simply says "Fuck of broadcom" and i thought it's the default driver, I asked here |
| 19:38.38 | mumpitze1 | Darkchaos: we only support debian. you don't run debian |
| 19:38.44 | mumpitze1 | !kali |
| 19:38.45 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on irc.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 19:38.56 | mumpitze1 | or you can try ##linux |
| 19:39.27 | Darkchaos | May there be a way, trying to run the original debian driver? |
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| 19:43.19 | peterrooney | Darkchaos: as a rule, we can't know. /msg dpkg based on debian for the full meal deal. |
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| 19:53.38 | Sysaxed | what's up with libgtk breakage? |
| 19:53.54 | Sysaxed | is it getting fixed or nobody knows about it yet? |
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| 19:57.04 | tech1anubis | master_j: any progress? |
| 19:57.33 | Sysaxed1 | damn, disconnected, hope I didn't miss anything |
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| 19:58.00 | master_j | tech1anubis: well, i didn't have that prob until i upgraded. do you know what you were doing before it stopped working? |
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| 19:58.25 | master_j | honesty i don't need it right now, i'm just using vim /etc/apt/sources.list. |
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| 19:59.29 | cesurasean | hey guys. my system is hosting users, and being attacked hardcore. how do i go abou looking through the system to see what is taking up so much space? |
| 19:59.30 | Sysaxed1 | so, anybody? |
| 19:59.43 | master_j | wow. watching that huf post vid. they are really being one-sided. that's not cool. but news has gone that way in the last 5 years. |
| 19:59.51 | master_j | oops wrong chan |
| 20:00.01 | Sysaxed1 | cesurasean: so you're running out of disk space? or ram? |
| 20:00.16 | tech1anubis | master_j: one momemt |
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| 20:00.54 | cesurasean | disk space. |
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| 20:00.56 | peterrooney | cesurasean: my favourite: du -sh * .* | sort -n |
| 20:01.15 | cesurasean | what does that do exactly? |
| 20:01.23 | cesurasean | i need to look for multiple small files, as well as large ones. |
| 20:01.25 | peterrooney | I have a more complex one, but it's sure to get be booted for flooding. |
| 20:01.43 | xand | sorting the "-h" output isn't really sorted |
| 20:01.53 | peterrooney | cesurasean: it shows what files and directories are taking the most space; if there's a lot, | tail |
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| 20:02.16 | cesurasean | so if there is a mmillion small ones, it's know? |
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| 20:03.00 | cesurasean | i find it hard to believe im using 80 gigs of space for 1 website and no users on it. lol |
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| 20:03.12 | peterrooney | cesurasean: http://paste.debian.net/6553/ |
| 20:03.50 | peterrooney | cesurasean: if there's a zillion small files, you may have a bigger problem than merely disk space. |
| 20:04.09 | cesurasean | how do i know if there is? |
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| 20:04.40 | peterrooney | xand: I know it's not really sorted, but my actual solution is in the paste |
| 20:04.41 | Sysaxed1 | SO, can anybody help me? Seems like libgtk is broken and systems are getting screwed after upgrades, is it already reported and what is the current progress? |
| 20:04.44 | cesurasean | what exactly is this script? to find files, and it doesn't come with debian? |
| 20:06.14 | peterrooney | cesurasean: it processes the output of du to a format more relevant to the question at hand |
| 20:06.51 | peterrooney | not included with debian; personal tool |
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| 20:08.45 | Sysaxed1 | oh come on, this is important! |
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| 20:10.43 | cesurasean | ah. |
| 20:10.59 | cesurasean | Sysaxed1, which version of Debian? |
| 20:11.13 | Sysaxed1 | cesurasean: unstable |
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| 20:11.32 | cesurasean | you'll have to wait for the update after you report the bug and explain how you produced the error. |
| 20:11.47 | Sysaxed1 | yeah I see, where should I report it? |
| 20:11.51 | cesurasean | or knock your system down to a stable version. |
| 20:11.57 | cesurasean | bugs.debian.net, i believe. |
| 20:12.02 | Sysaxed1 | should I contact the maintainers here? |
| 20:12.05 | Sysaxed1 | http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gtk+3.0.html |
| 20:12.16 | cesurasean | .org, sorry. |
| 20:12.27 | cesurasean | no, just file a bug report. |
| 20:12.33 | cesurasean | bugs.debian.org |
| 20:12.44 | cesurasean | http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting |
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| 20:13.15 | cesurasean | have you looked into sid? |
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| 20:13.27 | tech1anubis | master_j: I made the dumb move of trying to use synaptic as intented. The choose another server option is used to choose the fastest server to me... |
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| 20:13.52 | elkingrey | I'm trying get port forwarding set up for a program I want to run. I think it's set up correctly on my router's firewall, but when I test the firewall here: http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/ it says it's still closed. Could this be because I've set up my router's firewall wrong, or that my machine has a firewall blocking that port that I also need to open? |
| 20:13.54 | master_j | hmm. i am using a non-standard server also |
| 20:14.05 | master_j | i will try to switch back to the main servers and see if that helps |
| 20:14.08 | Sysaxed1 | cesurasean: what do you mean by looking into sid? |
| 20:14.13 | xand | elkingrey: yes, or your ISP is blocking it. what port number is it? |
| 20:14.32 | cesurasean | upgrade your repo to sid, and do a dist-upgrade, it will contain the newest version of that package. |
| 20:14.32 | xand | elkingrey: it could also be the program is not running. |
| 20:14.36 | mumpitze1 | elkingrey: debian has no firewall unless you installed one. and you can also try the port from some other PC in your LAN |
| 20:14.44 | elkingrey | 8444 |
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| 20:15.15 | cesurasean | Sysaxed1, you may also work with the package maintainer, and email them if you wish to offer help and work to resolve the issues. |
| 20:15.20 | Sysaxed1 | cesurasean: yes of course, it's not there |
| 20:15.28 | elkingrey | I've never had any success getting port forwarding working for any of my programs. I must be doing something wrong with my router's port forwarding, I just don't know what. |
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| 20:15.30 | cesurasean | you may have to compile from source. |
| 20:15.40 | cesurasean | or build your own .deb file from source. |
| 20:16.08 | cesurasean | or install yum, and go snatch someone's rpm of the good version. |
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| 20:16.52 | cesurasean | elkingrey, are you forwarding to the correct internal ip address? |
| 20:17.15 | tech1anubis | master_j: so after changing the server from with synaptic, it has been borking my good handmade sources.list since |
| 20:17.40 | tech1anubis | I could just not use synaptic to alter the sources.list, avoidance is not a fix |
| 20:17.55 | tech1anubis | I don't like to sweep issues under the rug |
| 20:18.07 | tech1anubis | I have found a few bug reports that went nowhere |
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| 20:18.42 | tech1anubis | I did not want to add to that list of fail. Bugs that go no where usually have afix somewhere |
| 20:18.46 | elkingrey | cesurasean: I don't know, there are three blanks to fill out, global port start, global port end, and global host port. I just put 8444 for all three. I guess that's wrong. |
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| 20:19.56 | petn-randall | Hi, I'm looking for a bittorrent client that supports SOCKS and runs as a daemon, and is packaged in Debian. Any recommendations? |
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| 20:20.50 | Tramp | elkingrey: somewhere you'd have to put the IP of the internal host you forward to. Sure it's "global host port" and not "global host"? |
| 20:21.43 | Tramp | or probably rather "local host" |
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| 20:23.57 | master_j | tech1anubis: can't test it at the moment. but it could have to do with custom repo. my thought was to try and change repo to debian default. run synaptic, see if it's fixed, then change back to custom/local repo with another program. |
| 20:24.07 | elkingrey | It's definitely global host port. If I put 8444 for all three blanks, then apply it, I go to the next screen where I select whether it's Host or Dynamic. If I select host then I need to select a specific machine. If I select Dynamic it doesn't let me choose, so I assume that's for all machine behind the router. |
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| 20:24.15 | master_j | but i have a feeling that won't fix it either. |
| 20:24.46 | f8l | petn-randall: Transmission can run as a daemon. I don't know about SOCKS support though. |
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| 20:28.03 | cesurasean | is there a mac channel on here? |
| 20:28.13 | cesurasean | or is freebsd where to go for those questions? |
| 20:29.03 | Tramp | elkingrey: you still here? |
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| 20:30.00 | Tramp | elkingrey: I get a RST from your box if I try with source-port 8444. so probably the "global port start/end"-option refers to source ports. |
| 20:30.54 | Tramp | elkingrey: try with something like "any" or "1024" and "65535" if that's possible |
| 20:31.02 | elkingrey | RST? |
| 20:31.32 | Tramp | TCP Reset (insted of getting nothing back at all if trying with a different source port) |
| 20:32.08 | Tramp | which means my SYN gets through to your forwarded-to machine, but there is nothing listening |
| 20:32.16 | elkingrey | Okay, so put in 1024,65535,8444 |
| 20:32.27 | elkingrey | One sec |
| 20:32.47 | Tramp | elkingrey: is there no "any" or "unpriviledged" option you can select? Do you have to put a number there? |
| 20:33.04 | Tramp | well, if there isn't then yes. use those 3 numbers |
| 20:33.38 | elkingrey | I have to put in numbers |
| 20:34.27 | elkingrey | Port forwarding or triggering? |
| 20:34.36 | Tramp | port forwarding |
| 20:34.56 | elkingrey | says LAN port is out of range (1-1024) |
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| 20:35.43 | Tramp | paste a screenshot of the mask you're entering the stuff somewhere. |
| 20:35.56 | elkingrey | mask? |
| 20:37.17 | petn-randall | f8l: Have been running that until now. Sadly no SOCKS support :( |
| 20:40.06 | f8l | petn-randall: apt-cache found fatrat and ktorrent. I don't know if they can be daemonised. |
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| 20:44.29 | jhutchins_wk | Looking for a backup program that can selectively back up/restore data without picking up programs and potential malware. |
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| 20:44.49 | jhutchins_wk | How's the W7 migration tool? |
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| 20:48.19 | mumpitze1 | jhutchins_wk: E_CHAN? |
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| 20:52.30 | Tramp | elkingrey: form |
| 20:52.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | petn-randall, try tsocks with transmission or the client of your choice? |
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| 20:54.17 | jhutchins_wk | Sorry, sorry, thought I was in a local channel. |
| 20:54.24 | smj | Why does Iceweasel want to open PDF files with GIMP? Why GIMP? Why? |
| 20:54.43 | jhutchins_wk | smj: It will open them. |
| 20:54.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | and that'll be a good idea? |
| 20:55.17 | jhutchins_wk | smj: Probably not what you want, right click on one and choose something else, tell it to remember. You can also change it in preferences. |
| 20:55.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | smj, perhaps you configured it to... after a couple of beers, it seemed a good and obvious idea? :P |
| 20:55.45 | elkingrey | Do I need to reboot my router after setting up port forwarding? |
| 20:55.58 | jhutchins_wk | CutMeOwnThroat: It'll choose gimp by default in a lot of cases. |
| 20:56.00 | smj | also, why does it open them? it shouldn't be let near PDF files, unless I start the program and have it ask me twice if I'm sure I want to open a PDF file with it |
| 20:56.34 | jhutchins_wk | smj: Have you even looked at the preferences settings? |
| 20:56.56 | smj | PDF files open normally in Okular |
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| 20:57.08 | jhutchins_wk | smj: I'm not sure what the current default is, but you can pick on pretty much every occasion. You, or someone using your browser, may have been impatient one day. |
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| 20:57.24 | jhutchins_wk | smj: Define "normally". |
| 20:57.43 | jhutchins_wk | smj: There are many different options. |
| 20:57.53 | smj | I open Dolphin, and double-click a PDF file, and Okular pops up |
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| 20:58.32 | jhutchins_wk | smj: So either Dolphin or Iceweasel is using it's own mechanism to maintain file associations. |
| 20:59.04 | jhutchins_wk | smj: Different programs, different defaults. The Gnome developers can't dictate what Mozilla chooses to do. |
| 20:59.12 | smj | Can I make Iceweasel use the same mechanism as Dolphin? |
| 20:59.12 | jhutchins_wk | smj: Nor vice-versa. |
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| 20:59.32 | smj | I don't use Gnome |
| 20:59.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | I opened a .txt file in the iceweasel at work..... |
| 20:59.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | it chose notepad under wine to open it /o\ |
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| 21:05.12 | Trae32566 | lol |
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| 21:30.00 | martin3z | using sid, wicd-curses stopped working for me, it fails in curses_misc.py: self.focus = focus an AttributeError |
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| 21:31.48 | mumpitze1 | martin3z: what python version? |
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| 21:31.52 | krababbel | How does compiling virtualbox kernel modules relate to a Debian inside a chroot? I'd want to install vbox in a chrooted Debian, can this work? |
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| 21:32.18 | mumpitze1 | krababbel: sure. as long as you can load the kernel module |
| 21:33.04 | krababbel | mumpitze1: Thanks, sounds encouraging. :) |
| 21:34.13 | krababbel | I want to install Debian on an Intel based Chromebook, and chroot seems the way to go, because the laptop has itsBIOS locked. |
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| 21:35.27 | lakcaj | Hello. My wireless adaptor was configured during installation on my desktop machine and everything works perfectly (I used the server install iso). Neither networkmanager nor wicd are installed, which is the way I prefer it. Now, I'm about to try to get wireless working on my laptop which is currently using a wired connection. How can I run the same configuration utility that is used during install? I don't wan |
| 21:35.29 | lakcaj | t to install network manager or wicd. |
| 21:35.31 | mumpitze1 | krababbel: only if you have headers for your chromeOS kernel |
| 21:36.10 | mumpitze1 | lakcaj: what is a debian server install iso? can you link it? |
| 21:37.29 | lakcaj | mumpitze1, sorry, debian without a graphical environment, just cd1 |
| 21:37.51 | mumpitze1 | you can do it again. I gather your wlan is configured via /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 21:38.10 | lakcaj | mumpitze1, exactly - I want to duplicate that process on the laptop |
| 21:38.24 | lakcaj | so that it uses network/interfaces on not some networkmanager daemon |
| 21:38.25 | mumpitze1 | no need. what's in your interfaces file now? |
| 21:38.38 | krababbel | mumpitze1: I see, I am not sure if this is talking about a chrooted system, could you tell me, if it is, please? https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!msg/chromebook-central/PPQFpC7mYzk/yW2hfNd7OHUJ |
| 21:38.40 | mumpitze1 | you can most likely simply copy it over |
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| 21:39.18 | genoskill | I get bad distorted sound at random times and that includes system sounds and media files. I installed debian using a live KDE image, and I've not modified anything related to sound, that means that i've have this bad sound since the beginning. How can I fix this or at least detect the cause? |
| 21:39.21 | lakcaj | mumpitze1, just eth0 since I didn't have the non-free wireless driver during install |
| 21:39.30 | mumpitze1 | krababbel: it describes how to replace a kernel with a user compiled one |
| 21:39.38 | lakcaj | mumpitze1, so I need to install the proper driver and configure the adaptor for my router |
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| 21:39.55 | krababbel | mumpitze1: I guess it is chrooted in that link, since the device they are talking about has a locked BIOS also. OK, thank you. |
| 21:39.56 | mumpitze1 | lakcaj: the interfaces file on your desktop machine |
| 21:40.28 | mumpitze1 | lakcaj: and you need us to tell what wlan chip your notebook uses for us to suggest a solution |
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| 21:42.10 | lakcaj | mumpitze1, here's the interfaces file: http://pastebin.com/gMdgWym3 |
| 21:43.04 | mumpitze1 | lakcaj: you can copy it over to the laptop after installation. or you can use the same installer as on the desktop. next: what wlan chip? lspci -nn |
| 21:43.04 | mooglenorph | So, how hard is it to get a fairly small utility into debian? |
| 21:43.19 | mooglenorph | I've never done any work for debian before. |
| 21:43.20 | lakcaj | Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) |
| 21:43.31 | mumpitze1 | !bcm4318 |
| 21:43.32 | dpkg | b43 is a Linux kernel driver supporting PCI/PCI-E wireless LAN devices with Broadcom chips. Firmware is required, ask me about <b43-fwcutter> to provide. http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx #bcm-users on irc.freenode.net. For BCM4313/43224/43225 device support, ask me about <brcmsmac>. For support of the BCM4306 rev 2 and 802.11b-only devices, ask me about <b43legacy>. |
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| 21:43.57 | mumpitze1 | broadcom is just awful |
| 21:44.05 | lakcaj | mumpitze1, so I should just need the driver, wireless-tools, wpasupplicant, and configure the interfaces file properly? |
| 21:44.33 | mumpitze1 | yes |
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| 21:44.46 | lakcaj | mumpitze1, I have an usus n13 usb wireless adaptor that I could use instead. |
| 21:44.51 | lakcaj | *Asus |
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| 21:46.08 | lakcaj | mumpitze1, Realtek RTL8192CU chipset instead, which I believe is better supported |
| 21:46.09 | mumpitze1 | I would install and try to get the broadcom to work first. usb sticks with laptops are icky |
| 21:46.15 | lakcaj | ok |
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| 21:47.45 | philipp_ | hey, can anyone tell me where the file is from wich the OS takes the startup commands for programms? |
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| 21:48.26 | mumpitze1 | philipp_: you need to explain what you mean a bit differently. I don't understand |
| 21:48.32 | lakcaj | mumpitze1, thanks for the help |
| 21:49.32 | krababbel | philipp_: Do you mean where it is defined how a program is started when you click on its name in the Application menu on the desktop? |
| 21:50.02 | philipp_ | mumpitze1: there is some file on my debian. i entered to "chromium" the "-incognito" so it allways starts my browser now in incognito |
| 21:50.12 | krababbel | philipp_: I think this depends on the desktop you use. |
| 21:50.24 | philipp_ | nah it does not in my experience |
| 21:50.31 | philipp_ | but do you have an idea where the file is? |
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| 21:51.10 | lakcaj | mumpitze1, we have a wireless connection! Thanks! |
| 21:51.19 | uberdub | ok, this is getting old now |
| 21:51.19 | mumpitze1 | by default, this is done via the package "menu". check /usr/share/doc/menu |
| 21:51.33 | uberdub | well, going upstream did nothing |
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| 21:51.48 | uberdub | runs a little faster, and more stable |
| 21:51.52 | uberdub | thats about it |
| 21:52.03 | uberdub | suspend freezes everything |
| 21:53.05 | philipp_ | okey tell me instead how i can search all textfiles on my entire harddisk for the word "-incognito" |
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| 21:53.19 | uberdub | If I even dare try to connect to a wifi network it freezes, and bluetooth still not being recognized |
| 21:53.27 | martin3z | mumpitzel: python2.7 |
| 21:53.38 | uberdub | Who do I have to pay to sort this? |
| 21:53.55 | mumpitze1 | philipp_: man grep. see the -r option |
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| 21:54.10 | martin3z | mumpitze1: python2.7 |
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| 21:54.39 | uberdub | Spending foour years on a cs degree, just to get my laptop working right isnt an option |
| 21:54.57 | philipp_ | forgett it i find it myself -.- |
| 21:55.06 | uberdub | I already spent 5 on a chem degree |
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| 21:56.46 | uberdub | I frickin hate wondows, makes me wanna puke to even fathom having to run it |
| 21:57.45 | Jeudi | I'm logged in as root. This results in an error: "echo powersave > /sys/module/pcie_aspm/parameters/policy": "echo: write error: Operation not permitted". Why? |
| 21:58.42 | mumpitze1 | uberdub: ifconfig wlan0 up;iwlist scanning |
| 21:59.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | uberdub, "freeze" meaning it recovers after some time? |
| 21:59.10 | mumpitze1 | Jeudi: echo "powersave" >.... maybe? |
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| 21:59.34 | uberdub | no |
| 21:59.38 | Jeudi | mumpitze1: nope :( same error. |
| 21:59.47 | uberdub | as in crashes the system |
| 21:59.56 | uberdub | have to reboot |
| 21:59.57 | mumpitze1 | Jeudi: ls -l /sys/module/pcie_aspm/parameters/policy ? |
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| 22:00.34 | Jeudi | owner/group is root. -rwr--r--. |
| 22:01.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | uberdub, |
| 22:01.20 | uberdub | yeah? |
| 22:01.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | ops |
| 22:02.00 | uberdub | i keep getting a microcode error on start up too |
| 22:02.11 | uberdub | microcode firmware |
| 22:02.12 | mumpitze1 | !tell uberdub about errors |
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| 22:02.25 | Jeudi | mumpitze1: Am I supposed to use a dedicated package to manage these power settings or something ? |
| 22:02.35 | mumpitze1 | Jeudi: afaik no |
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| 22:02.47 | Jeudi | mumpitze1: hmmmm. |
| 22:02.51 | uberdub | Dude, its not something I can copy and paste |
| 22:03.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | uberdub, an error message for that freeze would be useful... if you have a 2nd pc and regular cabled ethernet available, I would try to have the laptop print messages to a netconsole and then trigger the crash |
| 22:03.05 | uberdub | it throws it on populating /dev |
| 22:03.08 | dym | Hey! Im looking for an easy way to install a server via a rescue system and configura an mdraid. Does anyone by any chance have some sort of script? |
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| 22:03.12 | mumpitze1 | uberdub: you get lots of data from the APs around you? |
| 22:03.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | uberdub, guess you already tried and connecting via ssh doesn'T work anymore either after a crash |
| 22:03.25 | uberdub | yeah |
| 22:03.42 | uberdub | aps light up wifi works...until I try to connect to something |
| 22:03.59 | mumpitze1 | uberdub: no. I mean the iwlist command I gave you |
| 22:04.00 | uberdub | only computer I have |
| 22:04.16 | uberdub | hold not sure i have wireless tools installed even |
| 22:04.53 | uberdub | ive searched teh logs, and cant find anyhting |
| 22:05.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, if it's really a hard crash, it's not so surprising logs don't show anything... |
| 22:05.37 | uberdub | as soons as distros started going to 3.2 kernels, Ive had these issues |
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| 22:05.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | hence serial or netconsole (but i find netconsole easier to arrange) |
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| 22:05.50 | uberdub | CutMeOwnThroat: OK |
| 22:06.04 | uberdub | This is only pc I own |
| 22:06.31 | uberdub | squeeze ran great. |
| 22:06.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg serial console |
| 22:06.31 | dpkg | A serial console can be used to administrate a system or capture kernel crash/panic information. http://kernel.org/doc/Documentation/serial-console.txt . You will also want your bootloader to use the serial console. See also <netconsole>. |
| 22:06.48 | uberdub | hmmm |
| 22:06.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | dunno... I find that rather... extensive |
| 22:06.54 | uberdub | never used a serial console |
| 22:06.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, netconsole |
| 22:06.56 | dpkg | netconsole is a Linux kernel driver which logs kernel <printk> messages over UDP. It is commonly used to capture system crash information. http://kernel.org/doc/Documentation/networking/netconsole.txt . See also <serial console>. |
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| 22:08.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, or go back to 3.0 or 2.6.x kernels and try to stick with them until the end of the life of the laptop |
| 22:08.28 | uberdub | in wheezy? |
| 22:08.45 | uberdub | 2.6 in debian didnt see my bluetooth either |
| 22:09.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, you cannot have everything :P |
| 22:09.11 | uberdub | 2.6 is all but obsolete it seems |
| 22:09.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | I had a laptop in which the sd card reader was never even recognized as anything being connected... |
| 22:09.57 | uberdub | I need bluetooth much more than sd |
| 22:10.02 | uberdub | I use voip |
| 22:10.06 | uberdub | sip |
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| 22:11.15 | uberdub | at this point Ive been trying to sort this for years |
| 22:11.45 | uberdub | debian was the last distro to come with 2.6 to the best of my knowledge |
| 22:11.58 | uberdub | this isnt a old netbook really either |
| 22:12.18 | uberdub | atom |
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| 22:12.31 | uberdub | 3gb ram |
| 22:13.50 | uberdub | I shoulda never voided my warranty |
| 22:14.26 | uberdub | at least hp wouldve had to cover it if I kept it stock |
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| 22:15.44 | leftist | was looking at some i5 / i3/ i7 and AMD A10/A09 laptops. any suggestions? i use them for running vairous linux enviornments and solarils. |
| 22:16.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | squeeze will get security updates for another year... and _probably_ using a squeeze kernel with wheezy will also work (supposing there weren't big changes to udev etc) |
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| 22:22.14 | uberdub | this is what pm-suspend log says http://paste.debian.net/6579/ |
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| 22:23.52 | uberdub | it keeps saying network manager is putting all interaces to sleep....I uninstalled networkmanager, and installed wicd |
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| 22:38.44 | uberdub | Hydroxide: you around? |
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| 22:40.46 | no_gravity | Hello! Just installed Debian 7. Where are the system settings? |
| 22:45.16 | no_gravity | ok, found it. they are under the user name. |
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| 22:50.41 | tech1anubis | master_j: I fixed it |
| 22:51.02 | tech1anubis | so glas |
| 22:51.05 | tech1anubis | d |
| 22:52.01 | sharky | no_gravity, did your usb project with multiple installers work? |
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| 22:52.45 | no_gravity | sharky: no, i surrendered to have only one installer per usb stick :) |
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| 22:55.17 | sharky | no_gravity, aah don't give up too easy man ;), although with one installer is not too bad |
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| 22:57.31 | no_gravity | sharky: well, i got some other shit to do so i cannot spend indefinately much time on the usb issue :) |
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| 22:59.57 | sharky | no_gravity, ok have better luck with the other shit then :) |
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| 23:03.52 | no_gravity | sharky: yeah, more on the other shit tomorrow :) |
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| 23:04.04 | no_gravity | sharky: its one hour past midnight here in germany. |
| 23:04.29 | sharky | no_gravity, genau |
| 23:06.11 | no_gravity | gute nacht :) |
| 23:06.28 | sharky | : ) gute nacht |
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| 23:15.53 | fprophet | Hi, I am using XFCE4 and created a new user for myself. When I try to access terminal I get "Failed to execute default Terminal Emulator. Input/output error." |
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| 23:16.49 | petn-randall | fprophet: So you logged in on xfce4 as the new user, and this error pops up when you try to open a terminal emulator? |
| 23:17.04 | fprophet | petn-randall: yes |
| 23:17.40 | petn-randall | fprophet: How did you add the new user? |
| 23:17.46 | fprophet | adduser name |
| 23:18.10 | petn-randall | fprophet: And if you press ctrl+alt+f1, and log in with it there, what happens? |
| 23:18.35 | petn-randall | (you can switch back with ctrl+alt+left/right until you hit the GUI again) |
| 23:18.36 | fprophet | petn-randall: ctrl alt f1 doesnt do anything |
| 23:19.12 | fprophet | petn-randall: i login through putty, and start a vnc server to connect to |
| 23:20.08 | petn-randall | fprophet: Ah, ok. If you log in with that user from putty, what happens? |
| 23:20.36 | fprophet | petn-randall: seems to login normally. |
| 23:21.40 | petn-randall | fprophet: Maybe you've only got the wrong default selected ... hmm. |
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| 23:21.52 | fprophet | petn-randall: what do you mean by default? |
| 23:22.00 | iorch | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:22.01 | petn-randall | fprophet: Wheezy or squeeze? |
| 23:23.14 | fprophet | petn-randall: squeeze, I think. debian_version pulls 6.07 |
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| 23:24.22 | petn-randall | fprophet: Yeah, that's wheezy. I'm not sure it's 100% the same then (I have wheezy): Go to settings manager => Preferred Applications => tab "utilities". |
| 23:25.04 | petn-randall | fprophet: You should find there "Terminal Emulator". Select a different one and try again until it works. |
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| 23:25.46 | {her|bert} | petn-randall:you mean 6.07 is squeeze |
| 23:27.02 | fprophet | doesnt seem to fix anything |
| 23:27.08 | petn-randall | fprophet, {her|bert}, uhm right. 6.07 is squeeze. Dunno why I wrote wheezy (lack of sleep?). |
| 23:27.29 | petn-randall | {her|bert}: Good catch, thanks. |
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| 23:28.52 | fprophet | petn-randall: issue is still present. same error |
| 23:29.26 | fprophet | petn-randall: unable to launch google chrome browser either |
| 23:29.40 | wjtaylor | does smbd run for each config file in /etc/samba ? |
| 23:32.35 | mns | I've got debian/testing and it seems printing is not working. This used to work when wheezy was in testing. I've not made any changes to the printing setup. |
| 23:33.25 | wjtaylor | i'm going to reboot. catch ya on the flipside |
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| 23:35.50 | petn-randall | fprophet: What do you have to pick from, then? |
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| 23:37.11 | elkingrey | I recently switched from Ubuntu to Fedora, to Ubuntu to now Debian. I have an .ods file that when I open up on Debian is waaayyyy outdated. I've even got back through several of my backups and each one of them points to a specific date a long time ago. I can't for the life of me figure out why it's showing me such an old version. The only guess I could make is that for some reason maybe libreoffice is showing me an old version from way back when I used |
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| 23:37.49 | fprophet | petn-randall: Debian X Terminal Emulator and X Terminal |
| 23:38.06 | petn-randall | fprophet: And both options fail? |
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| 23:38.14 | fprophet | petn-randall: yes |
| 23:38.20 | petn-randall | elkingrey: Looks like you backup failed. |
| 23:38.23 | petn-randall | *your |
| 23:38.32 | fprophet | petn-randall: if I login as root and do this process everything works great. no issues. |
| 23:38.40 | elkingrey | petn-randall: All of the other stuff backed up fine |
| 23:39.32 | petn-randall | fprophet: Never, ever log in as root on a desktop environment. |
| 23:39.42 | MouseTheLuckyDog | I'm having problems with this command: aptitude search '?virtual' |grep ^v |grep -v i386|sort|uniq|grep adblock |
| 23:39.42 | fprophet | petn-randall: of course. |
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| 23:40.09 | MouseTheLuckyDog | How do I get aptitude to print out the whole package name? |
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| 23:41.28 | tech1anubis | elkingrey: update to libreoffice |
| 23:41.44 | elkingrey | techlanubis: I'm running libreoffice now. |
| 23:41.44 | mayhew | MouseTheLuckyDog: what are you trying to achieve? |
| 23:42.03 | hesperaux | Hello. I'm trying to install debian 7.0.0 netinst with VboxHeadless. I see the grub screen but when I select any type of option in grub it just hangs. I can't see any errors anywhere |
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| 23:42.30 | MouseTheLuckyDog | well except for the final grep adblock I am trying to generate a list of virtual packages. |
| 23:42.33 | hesperaux | Does anyone know what would cause this? |
| 23:42.54 | petn-randall | hesperaux: 64 bit image on a 32 bit VM? |
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| 23:43.11 | hesperaux | ah, perhaps. I don't remember explicitly telling it what arch the VM is |
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| 23:43.20 | hesperaux | i forgot about that. thanks, i'm gonna check it |
| 23:43.28 | MouseTheLuckyDog | The problem is package names which are very large and terminate the name. |
| 23:43.58 | petn-randall | elkingrey: I think you probably have the newer file somewhere else in your backup. If the backup was corrupted, it would show rubbish / bail out, and not show an outdated version. :) |
| 23:44.25 | elkingrey | I've been making backups, and using those backups for months. |
| 23:44.34 | fprophet | petn-randall: i cant even launch xterm |
| 23:44.39 | elkingrey | Now all of a sudden I open them and they're all outdated |
| 23:45.00 | petn-randall | elkingrey: What are you using for backups? rdiff-backup? |
| 23:45.01 | fprophet | tried launching through putty, getting "xterm: DISPLAY is not set" |
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| 23:45.22 | petn-randall | fprophet: How are you launching the desktop? |
| 23:45.23 | joako | Is there any way to use bluetooth without a GUI? |
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| 23:46.11 | mmnicolas | joako: yes, the bluetooth package has stuff for that, hcitool or something |
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| 23:46.42 | joako | mmnicolas, What I want to do is automatically accept connections and send the audio to the speaker output |
| 23:47.00 | fprophet | tightvnc |
| 23:50.00 | hesperaux | petn-randall, i explicitly set the ostype to Debian_64 and I am having the same problem...any other guesses? =\ |
| 23:50.30 | hesperaux | navigating in and out of grub menus works fine, but as soon as I start any installer (load a kernel), it dies. Do I need to set the firmware to EFI? |
| 23:51.35 | petn-randall | hesperaux: It should work without. You can edit the grub menu option with "e" IIRC, and then you can remove the "quiet splash" from it, if it's there. |
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| 23:51.45 | hesperaux | yeah i'm actually doing that right now |
| 23:51.49 | histo | hesperaux: are you enabling pae? |
| 23:52.03 | petn-randall | hesperaux: Haven't had the installer in use for a few months now, details are a bit foggy, sorry. |
| 23:52.10 | hesperaux | petn-randall, removed quiet and now i can see the problem clearly. it still says it's i686...meh |
| 23:52.31 | petn-randall | hesperaux: meh :) |
| 23:52.35 | histo | hesperaux: do you have a cpu ont he host that supports vt? |
| 23:52.58 | hesperaux | no, it does not support vt |
| 23:54.16 | fprophet | petn-randall: tightvnc starts an X desktop for me. |
| 23:54.31 | fprophet | petn-randall: I cant seem to issue startx because of errors |
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| 23:56.16 | hesperaux | looking at the VM details, it says VT-x VPID is on. would that prevent boot if my host cpu does not support VT? |
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| 23:57.26 | hesperaux | meh, here's my problem: "For 64bit guests, hardware virtualization is required, thus disabling VT-x/AMD-V in the settings of the virtual machine didn't make any difference. Because of this I somehow concluded that hardware virtualization cannot be the reason. Too bad." |
| 23:57.44 | petn-randall | hesperaux: Possibly. But I know if your CPU doesn't support HW virtualization that you're stuck with 32 bit guest systems. |
| 23:57.55 | hesperaux | yep |
| 23:58.00 | hesperaux | i'll get a 32 bit image. it's not a big deal |
| 23:58.07 | hesperaux | thanks for the assistance |
| 23:58.18 | petn-randall | hesperaux: Came to the conclusion at the same time, heh :) |
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